20 Episode results for "Mike it"

How Do I Deal?

I Give Life to Life

22:57 min | 6 months ago

How Do I Deal?

"Hey their coach energy here. The single parents life coach I am that life coach who helps both single dads and single moms with understanding life and relationships, understanding their purpose in life, and ultimately gaining their power and control of their life back. You are tuned into the I. Give Life to live podcast. Right here on apple itunes Google podcasts, spotify anchor, and so many other channels. Make sure that you subscribe you. Share you download. You've like you rate. Give me that five star rating. If you do believe that I share some valuable content and information for everyone at some point to be able to benefit from that is what this channel is all about and today I am sharing pieces of conversation that I've had with clients of mine. and. It's more so talking about how do ideal? So, one of my clients have asked me. Know with with everything. That's going on Energie. How is it that? You're N- you're not being affected. or at least if you are, it doesn't seem Phil Look. As if you're being affected with its entire virus, that's going on and the up and down issues with the economy, the closing and opening out of the government, the closing and opening of the states. The shutdowns of. Businesses. The doors closing of businesses. How is it that? It just does not seem or look. As. If you're being affected, so. You know I had to give nothing but the real. And I explained. It's all about. Being flexible, and. Trust and believe. I am also being affected by everything that's going on. I'm being affected by the economy decides to go up or down when the government decides to open or close. When the states decide to go on lockdown or not, when the states decide to do A. Round of quarantine or not. I am absolutely being affected. That's the one common theme. That I can say about this entire situation that we're dealing with right now. Is that it's affecting every one. However it is affecting everyone differently. Some people. Yes, more than others I can definitely acknowledged that. Some, people, it's affecting and mostly their financial life other people. It's affecting them in their emotional life emotional health. Mental Health Mental. Wellbeing And it's also affecting people physically in multiple areas physically. Whether, it be just within themselves their own body. As far as with them, not being able to. Maybe get out as much as they used to. Get their workout going for just move more than what they may have been doing. From, being in lockdown or a soft walk down, or whatever is going on in your area? And another physical. Means of power, a lot of people are being affected. Are being stuck at home with someone who's abusive. So we're all being affected to some degree and yes. Some more than others, so one thing that I made sure to mention to that client was. Don't think that it's not affecting me. But. Do understand that I am controlling to what degree? I allow it to affect me. And I broke it down again, going back to what I was about to start explaining. I broke it down by stating that. I learned to be. Flexible I've learned to live life being as flexible as I possibly can. I've learned to be able to bend without breaking. I've learned to. Know How to go with the flow when. I can't necessarily do anything in that moment. But, I learned to go with the flow. In the meantime until I see that moment until I see that opening until I see that opportunity that allows me to step in and. Do my part as far as what I can to. Make that change make that shift make that decision that will be best for me my life in my family and my household. So. I didn't always I wasn't always. That flexible. I wasn't always in the mindset. Of being flexible. Yes it I used to be one of those where Oh if something happened. then. That's it. What do I do? Oh, my gosh panicked panic panic. Then I learned over time high and it did take time. But I started learning. By I. Just being aware of the difference and the situations that I was going through. Learning and seeing and paying attention and being aware of the different situations. When I. Maintain that little bit of flexibility that I had back then. Versus when I did not. have any flexibility at all back then. And usually, of course, it was a little bit easier to to exercise that flexibility. On smaller issues, you know not not so. Dramatic issues I'll say. And so it allowed me to just Kinda get a glimpse of Oh wow. I handled that situation albeit. Wasn't as huge. As maybe something else that I may have gone through. However I handled this particular situation. This particular way with. More. Patients being more calm. Understanding. What's really going on to the best of my knowledge? And not taking it on. So, personally. And man that difference and filling. That difference in the experience of going through that particular situation. was totally different. And So being a believer in. I do have control over. How I allow myself to be affected by the things that I go through. I started applying it and just testing it out. I test it. I tested out how? And if it would work. On. Other issues different issues. Money issues emotional issues relationship issues. Family issues. You name it. Car breaks down type of issue. A bill is due. That was unexpected type of issue. Whatever. A health, issue So I started testing it out. Testing out that. Quote Unquote Theory. At the time, it was a theory. and. Actually align myself to see if it works. And Oh my goodness it did. So I started implementing it more. And more and more. And sometimes I would get it right sometimes. I wouldn't because I was in a learning stage. I was learning how to do it. I was teaching myself how to. I was trying to figure it out. So I was running tests. You know technically behind the scenes. I it was I was running test. So anytime that lifebelt mean one particular issue. Okay, great opportunity for me to try it again. Okay. I did something that may not have worked in this particular situation cool. Don't worry. Life will give you another chance to try it out. So another thing life dealt me I had an opportunity to try it again. And so I did. And I tweeted mind. What do you say I tweet? I? What's that word? I tweaked my method. Each time. and. It's just like with anything else see. This is one of the reasons or a perfect example of how I can say. Or, why saying? Life and relationships. We make them more difficult than what they have to be. Because we have everything that we need within us. To be able to navigate both life and relationships much better than what we have been doing. For typically do or may have done back in our past and our more. Youthful as are more immature days. Because, all I did was used a method. Of Trial and error. Of let's test and see. Let's tweak it go. And just keep trying again and trying again. It's the same method that we learn as kids that we are taught as kids. that. We even teach our kids. Whether. We're teaching them this method directly or indirectly. Intentionally or unintentionally. There people are taught this method. One way or the other? And so I applied. What I knew as a basic. Life? Method a basic foundational principle. If you will. And I applied it to. The situations that I would go through in my life. And started working. I started noticing the difference I started seeing the evidence I started seeing it with my own eyes I was able to fill it with my own heart. I was able to notice a difference and the end results however, the most important thing that I noticed the difference end was the journey of. Point eight of being dealt with whatever that issue will problem was. Down two point. Z.. The final results the issue being resolved. What it, however the however the resolution was. Or whatever the of the resolution was? That jarring from start to finish. was so different. Less stressful. Less of a roller coaster of emotions and a lot of going back and forth. It was much more. Dare, I say it pleasant. So. As I was explaining to the client to my client. IMING Delta same cards. However I'm. Choosing. How I allow it to affecting. and. meaning. I'm choosing how I. Am going to walk this journey the day to day. Of this whole virus situation. The day to day of the unknowns, the dame today of. The government. Not, knowing where we're going to go, not knowing what we're doing. Whatever the case is not knowing as apparent and especially single-parent what the schools are going to do, schools are upon us the reopening of schools. The next school year is here. We are less than a month away from the typical start time from what was the original start time? No there are a lot of school, counties or districts. That are giving parents the option. To either go in person or do digital. Digital learning. So there's a huge decision to me. and. Based off whatever decision I. Make Four. It's not just for me. It's for my family, my household and is also going to affect. The other families and other households, the other students as well. Because, either my child will be there in person or not. That's just another body. That's beat breathing that air. That's in those classrooms. So not gonNA. Go into detail on that with this particular episode, because I do have multiple episodes that are. Available and more to come. That I will I go into the common issues of Keno whether. The common issues of parents having to decide. To send their kid to school or to keep them at home. For digital learning, so make sure you check those episodes out, but getting back to you. How do I deal? And how is it that it just seems got? It doesn't affect me or not. That I'm not being affected. That's the beauty of. What I! Coach my clients on. What I mentor my aunties on. Is. How to gain. Your power and control of your life back. Because when you have the control back over yourself. Then life and that relationship if you're in a relationship. It's. It's a whole new world. That's when you are are in that power seats. Saying. This is what will be. This is what's best for me. This is what I will accept. This is what I will not accept. And there's so much more to it. It's it's very powerful, very enlightening berry. Mind opening. So for anyone who just feels as if you have lost control of yourself. Lost Control of your life of your house of your kids of your relationship. What ever? Then reach out to me and let's talk about it. Let's figure it out, but see. Where did things get off? because. That's all that happened. You just got off drive and it doesn't mean that it's not a situation that cannot be fixed. That cannot be. Put Back. In its rightful place. And however else you WanNa, look at it. So if you are that person if I am talking to you if you are. Resonating with what I'm saying. Then reach out to me. You can find my contact information, or you can just simply contact me by going to my website. Coach Energy Dot Com. Energia Spelled N.. Why? visit me on my website and reach out via the. That are in there. If? You want to do something a little bit quicker. Wherever, you are listening to this episode. Comment below, leave your. Reach out to me below in the comments or send me a direct message. The platform that you're on. Pinochet's just get my attention. Let me know that. It's something you are ready to do to step that you're ready to take. And you can always email me as well. My email address is in the show notes. Or the description of this episode, or all my episodes actually I so wanna just send me an email v discreet I gotcha. Send me an email and just briefly describe what's going on and you what you need what you're looking for. But if you go to my website, ultimately, it's just as easy as clicking that book now button. Or Book Online Button For that consultation. and. There's no obligation free consultation, so you don't have to worry about anything as far as for that particular call. Let us discuss what's going on. Let's see. Ya See where we can go. Let's see what type of game plan personal gain plan that we can come up together for your life. And you know, put you back in the driver's seat. That's that's how I'm able to stay flexible. That's how I'm able to be bendable without breaking. That's how I'm able to go with the flow. During the time more in the meantime of finding that opening or that right timeline to make a decision making moon. That's best for me and my family. Is By being in the driver's seat and having the power and control of my life back. That's how. You can have that to. You can also control how. This virus situation. That's worldwide how it will affect you. You also can. Have Control over how? Your relationships will go from this point forward. You have control over your own happiness. You will learn how to have control over your own happiness from this point forward. And just so much more Mike it's. It's so hard to put in words. The The filling the experience. I don't even WANNA use a turn filling. The experience is so hard to put it into words because. It's. It's it's that awakening it really is. And I want you to experience that I want that for you. But I can't wants it more. For, you than what you want it for yourself. So you have to take the first step, and that's all that's that's that's it at this moment? Right here right now. What you're listening to. The only requirement that you have is to take the first step and just reach out to me and let me know that hey. Can we talk. Can. We just have that initial conversation. And that's exactly what we will do. And we will go from there. So once again. I think you all for your support. Thank you for downloading sharing hitting that thumbs up button. Heading that thumbs up button. And Liking giving me that five star rating if you think that this was a great episode or If you have listened to other episodes that have been published. And you think that there was a lot of valuable information that someone can benefit from the make sure you go ahead and download. Give me that five star ratings, so I can get that exposure on these platforms. But this is coach energy. The single parents live coach. Thank you so much for tuning in. You can find me online coach. Energy Dot com from that website. It's my main hub from there if you are a social media person. You can connect with me via whichever preferred social media platform that you want by just clicking that and blame the icon back on my website, and then it will take you right to that page. But nonetheless I think you guys for tuning in. You already know what to do. Your comments below get the conversation started, and as always keep smiling.

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Faith During Corona Crisis

Let's Talk Game with Tiffani Lewis

09:00 min | 11 months ago

Faith During Corona Crisis

"Welcome to another episode of. Let's talk game with Tiffany Lewis. I'm your host. Thank you all for tuning in. I know it has been a an interesting turn of events. The talk of the town the city in nation even globally especially is not the political race anymore. Talk about diversion. How quickly we diverted our attention from some of the buffoonery of politics to the latest viral sensation or chart topping songs right like these are the things that we were talking about week over week lease when I would check in to see what was going on in the headlines. Those things are still happening but they have all taken a back seat in a degree of importance as Kobe. Nineteen or the corona virus most aptly known continues to spread. I'm opposed to really discussing Or reporting the news outlets and the content that they share because they create fear in the hearts and minds of viewers and listeners So as an alternative though. I know there's so much power you have in what you say and as a pot caster this outlet is especially important in time like this because it just creates a different point of view and others allow that point of view and perspective to be shaped more aptly in the communities where they sit so for sake of what is known about the corona is something to take serious very very serious life in depth series companies colleges arenas restaurants theme. Parks schools. Everything is being for. They're being forced to rethink business practices to keep people safe and the virus contained talk about game changing. Life Changer. For those who follow. Let's talk game or if you're listening for the first time pandemonium is not my thing. I tried to let my faith lead most of my content in the in the same way week over week. That's just me. I try to lead in faith share things that are hoped field in uplifting. However I'm no fool right. We must all be wise in our health and wellness. And that's something I also aptly speak about because as important Mike it's Mind Body Spirit. That's life giving how you infuse things into your mind into your body how you workout which you ingest even what you take in mentally. It's all tied together so I want to start off by sharing facts about what I do know to be true about the corona virus. And I'm sure you all have done your due diligence by this point but really quickly if you haven't you know there. There's always some who may be enlightened you know and I don't want to glance over that so I know this is probably the biggest misperception. Your ethnicity does not make you more or less susceptible to the virus. The first reported case came out of Asia but being of Asian descent does not increase or decrease your chances of getting or spreading the virus. And I would say this is for any ethnicity. So let's just really blowed out blow that out the water people who have been in close contact with the person known to have Kobe. Nineteen or people who live in or have recently been in the area with ongoing spread are in edit increased risk of exposure very similar to the flu and how it spread however also understood to be a bit more incorrect aggressive in how it attacks the respiratory system. Someone who has completed quarantine or who has been released from. Isolation does not pose a risk of infection to other people. This is all from the website so this is not tiffany's facts. This information comes directly from the centre of disease control from their website is public information. You can help stop Kobe. Nineteen by knowing the signs and symptoms and getting treatment from a medical doctor immediately fever cough shortness of breath seek medical advice from your doctor if you develop decent symptoms or even the Er if you don't have a primary care physician and I know even our office last week's on one set they. They were feeling sick and just given the urgency of the symptoms and getting a second opinion from a medical professional. Early is very important. So don't wait. Do not wait. Even with all the knowledge in the Info sharing people are still waiting believing it could be a common cold. So don't take this for granted this information. There are simple things you can do to help. Keep yourself and others healthy. Wash your hands often with soap and water for at least twenty seconds. This is base level especially after blowing your nose. Coughing or sneezing going to the bathroom and before eating or preparing food and I would even say while shopping again. All of his information is documented. Facts on the CDC website. I am not a medical or health. Professionals are relied on those who are information but as we talk game especially during such a sensitive time where uncertainty week after week peeks his head when people are losing jobs left right in more meals are being missed and made by schoolchildren forces. Stay home from school or when our friends from? Europe. This one is personal shared. That loved ones. Don't have food and deciding that as a reality for people who are usually rich with farmland all around right or at a closer glance as I look out our window at church across the street. Who usually has its gates open? Have now locked them to both congregants and the community. The church the Church soldier boy moment right. Social distancing is not supposed to impact the church schools corporations. We get that I get that but not the church. So where do we turn? The church. Closes is doors. I would impose got himself with anger. Faith I believe. This is a time of centering really going inward and fully. Activating the faith. You had reserve the faith that saying faith that allows you to get over that broken heart that you were sure would overtake you. That faith that allowed you to believe in something greater than what you could see and launch that business that you did ten years ago the faith that pulled you out of the Deepest Valley of depression and gave you a sense of joy and peace greater than what you have before you even became depressed the faith that whispered you're greater than your addiction. The faith that allows you to believe again after losing everything the first time take all these multiply them times one hundred because when you're truly resting in God there's no fraction God is not divisible he only adds to what we already have. He's a multiplier. This is what I offer as encouragement and I say this with such emphatic truth. Because I've lived at myself I am living it. Don't sit and wonder go on faith believing that God is greater than every hidden agenda for those who are talking about propaganda and all of this other stuff every hidden agenda every attack every pandemic or economic dip. God is greater than that. So live in faith not fear the name exist. But let's not really make this declaration a Hashtag only but make it real. There's no better time than now to trust God more and if you don't even know how to trust God if you don't even have that relationship with God you can whisper that in your own home as we social distance. A lot of the things that God requires of us starts in our heart and we don't have to be in any place other than with him so just focus inward tap into your faith even if you utter. How how? What do you want me to do on this day? I'm sure he'll answer. This has been another episode of. Let's talk game with Tiffany Lewis staying courage. D- thank you for listening. Please share for those who need to be encouraged and comment. If you found this podcast helpful. I'll see you all next week.

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I am NOT Retiring... yet - WAN Show Jan 24, 2020

The WAN Show Podcast

1:03:45 hr | 1 year ago

I am NOT Retiring... yet - WAN Show Jan 24, 2020

"Welcome Ladies and gentlemen to the wind. Show we've got great topics is for you guys today there's the fifty six hundred x t launch debacle. There's the incredible news out of gamers nexus that some artiach the X.. Twenty sixty s are like forty seven percent faster than other ones in productivity benchmark. How does this keep happening with MD.? Well that was is Ben. This is both of them doing dumpster. Oh just. AMD bungling their launches well. We'll just really nice people. Random cards being way more powerful or some cards being flash. -able up to like well. That's that's in video. That's Oh yeah. So that's that's a whole other thing so we have this. These are two completely unrelated topics for for some reason have been combined in our doesn't make a lot of yes. Don't worry about it. It's all good literally no virtually every Lenovo thinkpad since two thousand seventeen has defective active. USB type seaports so that's pretty cool and Speaking of cool very cool. Thank you super cool. Thank you has has his own shirt. I news here for milestone. I am not retiring at least at this time. I think some people actually I know for a fact fact. Some people didn't make it all the way didn't watch the the street And so the rumors of my retirement have been grossly exaggerated. We also have some more news. Intel's reordering is there anything you want to highlight a big deal. Have you heard about this. Not We're definitely talking about Sonos filling landfills speakers basically and like. I'm mad. I think he should be. I have some I'm super uh-huh I actually didn't even pay for them and I'm still mad or are they going to be. We'll talk about that all right. Let's roll that intro. Roll it he's going to do it and thinking about rolling it. That was pretty good that I did in fact Bro. Go all right right. Let's jump into the show. Okay so the first thing I wanna do is a little bit of QNA because it seems like a lot of people have some and questions about what went down on Wednesday night when pretty much I sat down and I made a few notes and because I didn't know what to to say I just said everything. Do you have any questions. Not majorly okay. All right One thing I would I would note right now. Is that if we we don't actually have to really have a super-normal show but if we want you we're probably gonNA have to cap this at some point we'll ask questions for every will and they'll ask super dumb one. We're going to ignore all of those ones like no offense. It's just maybe that's why he's retiring. Time is limited come on time is limited ended. So if you've got nothing there's a couple of things I wanted to address right away. One of them is that honestly that video is the most uncomfortable I have felt about publishing the video ever. I actually sat there for about twenty minutes. Just like rechecking things that I already knew her as good as they were going to be because I was shooting on just like a the basic webcam with no lighting. Yeah and using just like an ancient Maude Mike on a not very good usb audio card because my thunderbolt connection died because thunderbolts a big piece of garbage which is why I wired up my house with fiber optics for those USB extensions your way every excuse for everything now should dot's why I'm retiring vulnerable sucks and that's why I'm retired so anyway. My thunder will thing wasn't working and that's what I use for my microphone and so I had to go get this like little tiny dinky. USB Combo Unit and like a breakout cable too. And so even for Mike It. It wasn't sounding as good as it should and there was like so we're all these little things that I kept just kind of tweaking and tuning in like I'll maybe I'm going to sit more like this and I play around with like the tilt on my Webcam and stuff I think I think a certain amount of that helped aid the like person ability of the video. It ended up being way worse than I expected. So it's funny only because I've been doing this for so long that I've become so numb to the numbers I uploaded video ago. I on about one point one million. That's okay I guess yes arm was a Banger that one did two million two million views like cool. But I don't really think because is most of the videos that we upload I guess don't connect with people on a personal level like don't really to But I had they don't. They're not the same. I had literally hundreds of people many of whom I haven't talked to in ages just like reach out to me every possible means. I apologize that I have not been able to reply all of them and in fact I probably won't be able to reply to all of them. The the video has like some stupid number. I think it has like twenty five thousand comments on it and I've actually read a significant chunk of them but not all of them. It gets a new comment on. It's still more than once a minute and I- streamed like thirty six hours ago or whatever so to currently at two point seven million interviews publicly and the really uncomfortable part is like I don't really I tend to keep the brand front facing tend to keep the person sort of behind the scenes and and the thing that I felt and this is I you know this is a. It's an analogy. I know it's not the same thing but honestly see I felt kind of like a like a pornographic actor like I felt leg exposed because when I was when when I was recording it I was in a room by myself and there was chat but I was actually not looking at it. I was I was specifically not looking at it. I was just looking at my notes. It's not just kind of trying to talk. You just kind of put it out there and and what I realized as people have been reaching out to me like with everything from from. Hey do you want to grab lunch or like you know. Hey if you just WanNa talk. Hey here's my life story. And here's how I you know tackle these things and everything and it's all like really positive. Actually shockingly positive and I've even seen comments from people just being positive about how positive our community and just being surprised fries because in general the Internet is such a Cesspool and what I realized is that there are people watching this that I wouldn't have shared these things with if I had specifically been in a room with them and that now I have to go and point having basically really effectively bawled my eyes out in front of them and this is probably going to be like a highly addressable topic for a while on that note. Though yeah I would ask. I think a lot of the times when you when you air something like this to not shareholders in the sense of like stocks but shareholders hold. Seiko share there. We go when when you do that to a certain degree it can feel like you finally lifted a a bunch of weight. Does that feel accurate. It'll I feel better. Yes I actually feel. I felt better coming in to work on Thursday morning than I have in a while. Yeah just like because I mean at least it's it's they're like there are people who knew already there's a person who already and there are people who had information like I think you and and I had a really good chat last year. Twenty twenty one thousand nine hundred. It wasn't a hundred percent on knows but it was like I think I think he had some ideas where my head space was that and So now it's just out there so it's like okay for better for worse you know. That's where I'm at and and most people at least here at the office have been really good about it and like you're fine right. I'm like yes cool. Yeah Yeah you know nobody. Some thought I saw one comment. It's funny how the negative ones really stand out to you. I saw one comment about how highly inappropriate. It was for an executive of a company. I need to talk about something like this. You know in front of their staff and I was like. Here's the thing you don't I know my staff you don't know me you don't know them. Group has become more corporate. But it's still very very far from that and it will never get a that is not my intention at all. The other thing is is that there seems to be some confusion around it the like people were lake. WTI exist when the OCULUS video went up like twelve hours later about about the question is just like me and Riley goofing around playing with like this Vr headset people are like WTO. Is this a such a total shift on you. Guys gotTa understand that when and I live stream that's happening now and when you watch a video that happened a while ago and to be fair fair you almost undoubtedly filmed videos the next day potentially the next morning probably yesterday upbeat. Yeah that's the thing is like most of the time filming videos. I wouldn't call it a persona but it's I'm definitely aware that I am an onscreen talent and my job is to perform. Do a good job of being an onscreen talent. Because if I don't I will get fired not by not in a literal sense but like I I will get fired by the audience. They'll be like well. This guy sucks so I'm GONNA go watch one of the other littoral hundreds of other tech content creators online. I don't need this guy. Screw it I'm out of here and people don't want at least this is my perception and maybe I'm wrong because I was watching the the series. That chain Dawson did with Jeffrey Star. As far as I could tell was like a six week promotion of the makeup launch that they were obviously planning before they ever started creating that content and I was just like trying to like I. It didn't end up being able to watch it. Unfortunately and like massive respect for those guys and the the teams like everyone involved aww massive respect to everyone involved with that for like the success that they've had financially influence wise fame wise all that good stuff. I don't get the content I just I don't understand it and that's fine not. I'm sure that they would watch what I do and go. Sorry what is this. Yeah I was GONNA say rather different categories. Yeah Yeah So. That's fine. But I was is just what I was about to say as my perception is people don't want to see like kind of Mopey Lake sorta down be stuff so I tend to try tip project that energy but you know there are parts of that that I was kind of skipping through that I was like you know. This is kind of a Downer but but it's like different prince strokes for different folks right. Yeah watching it. I did not actually get that vibe. Really I didn't get the Downer vibe with the the doesn't they know that I'm in the I don't really get that contact. Sorry I thought you were talking about your stream. Yeah Okay Yeah I felt like Komo you had you had like comments about situations where you were down but you are being open about it and I don't personally take at that as a downer. If that makes sense I wasn't like sad watching it at. I think at multiple points in time. I think I was actually quite happy right because I think there's things that I mean. I've seen like personal life wise. I've seen like your Novon relationship just from my angle. Seems extremely strong right now has seemed extremely strong for quite a while. Yeah we're good. I think that's really cool. And when you're like I want to spend more time with my wife and kids that doesn't make me sad right. That's like Oh that's cool because is like not to to your horn but I think you're really awesome dad so you being able to spend more time with your kids being awesome. Dad is like that's cool. Well thank you no problem but like yeah I I don't know didn't like yeah. I guess what I'm trying to say is in general. Don't be surprised and confused when the videos you watch that our production and not not just like me. Sharing my thoughts are designed for a broader audience. Even outside of design that you can like be having those thoughts and those introspective to like thinking sessions and stuff like that and then also you'll be excited. VR Yeah like you don't have to be one track mind all right and that's the other thing too is like I kind of expected. I expected the video to like do well in terms of the analytics. I didn't expect it to be closing in on like three million views. The thin like two days. I didn't expect to go home from work or excuse me come home from work the next day and have my in-laws like ask ask me about it. I didn't expect to get a message from my sister. That's like hey I'm sitting here. Saudi is out at my desk at work. Like are you alright. That wasn't the point. I will say I don't I don't think but like it didn't make me sad but I do think you made a lot of people cry but I don't think those things are necessarily the same okay. Well at any rate what do we got here. Uh comments now that you've seen like before we get into the Q. and A.. Is there anything you would want to add. Now that you've seen comments on the video because sometimes I feel that way but content honestly not really I really did like I do feel like there's a load off my chest. I really did say everything that I had to say so I just want to clarify that. No I'm not retiring. Yes it's because I still have work to do here but the main point is just that I. I'm GonNa do it because I want to do it. I'm not GonNa do it because I feel like I am. I am bound to it There I went through a period for a long time where I felt like I was doing this because I just had this ongoing responsibility to make sure that everyone under this roof keeps making their mortgage payments and that's still there. Obviously I think that any honest entrepreneur with half Seoul are excuse me entrepreneur. Any obvious like business owner. I guess that's sort of a synonym whatever. It doesn't matter any anyone with half a soul who who is responsible for a team of people should feel that way But I'm not GonNa let that dictate how why I'm doing it anymore. And so if if I were to ultimately make some kind of a decision like if I was to say okay look. I'm going to step back to part time or I'm going to whatever whatever it ends up looking like And I'm just going to make sure that I'm putting my work into equipping. The People here with the tools that they need to keep going and I think that It's the community's reaction has been really encouraging I've seen a lot of people just say like hey you're teams awesome. We love them so lake. Yeah do you do you and I'm we'll we'll make it work. I do think a lot of that is kind of like Hague's remember eggs people would write it in your your book. Oh yeah you know have a great summer. We should totally get together. It's totally meaningless number. Yeah that'll never happen. That's that's yeah that's not happening. And and the reality of it is our let's online or more eldred Mickley driven than ever before and in spite of many many of those people having the best intentions to keep up they wouldn't but it's still really nice to hear even if I know that a lot of it is And a lot of it probably is true. Just be very clear but a lot of it is not and not intentionally. I actually don't really see any. So who's your favorite cross code character. Oh it's gotta be you reference references. I know I came in with some amount of pre existing information but I at no point in time in that video. Thought you were like immediately bailing. Because I noticed the specific wording of the title title. I was very careful not to click. It got to be emily. I Love I love her. She's she's amazing. That's my favorite character. Uh Turning on June tweet cooperative after retiring I have no idea how cooperative is structured. I doubt it the cropper business model. What what is this is an alternate business model which responds to the needs? All stakeholders employees customers suppliers investor future generations as well as investors. That sounds like some pretty pie in the sky. bullcrap right there so no idea. Yeah Okay Do. People don't really seem to have a lot of questions. I think. Think like there was articles posted and stuff like that which were like clearly. Someone skimmed the video or who I am doesn't no wrote some stuff about like your stats and said you're retiring. But I think the community is a whole actually watched it and gets it and if you watch the whole thing it's fairly conclusive okay. I didn't really expect you're going to have additional comments. When asked about it? Cool all right. Well thank you so much guys you guys rock all right so let's move onto subject news. The Rx fifty six hundred x t launch was a bit of a fiasco. I actually clarified it a little bit on the M. I.. Retiring hiring or not. What's going on live stream? But I feel like I should do it more formally here because I did not cover it. Adequately in our launch video of the fifty six hundred x not and I did a very bad job of making the situation better on electric. Yeah so you know what I might watch eight both of those things after the livestream and with that context on it was just hilarious. Terrible terrible so amdi released the Rx fifty six hundred x t on Tuesday the twenty second and virtually everyone's been talking about nothing but the V. BIOS update from zero. So what went down is is we had intended to do are fifty six hundred x t content as like an over clocking experiment with the card. Because we'd Gotten Not in a wink and a nudge that there was a lot of over clocking headroom and I'm not going to say who the wink nudge came from. Because I don't know how much of this communication is indeed but we had like a shot in the ribs and that there was a lot of over probably headed this so we structured the entire video around that and then we like found out about about this vows update we got our card updated. Our numbers are fine. which was why I thought it was not a big deal because I got the sequence of events out of order? I didn't know how how last minute it was and effectively. We were still waiting on a response to find out like what's the deal here. Is this via BIOS. Update a one shot thing on just this one particular card like engineering sample. By the way we noticed that that over clocking headroom that was hinted at to us like well. This seems to take up a lot of it. So what's what So anyway we but we went ahead. We overclock the card we did end. We got better performance numbers with our over clocking testing. And because I didn't know what I didn't realize because I spaced out while Anthony was talking to me about the situation was that. AMD didn't have a coherent aren't plan. For updating some of the cards that would go to end users that were already updated like to me. It was nothing murder because I was like. Who Cares? We we get prelaunch. firmware updates all the time as long as they're available to the end user it doesn't matter because they will never see this pre launch date of the product but in this case ace because updating the BIOS of graphics card is a non trivial matter for most users. Some people were going to end up stuck with with it and so it was kind of a problem because they were GonNa Watch review like ours where we take this card. That's fast stock and even faster over clocked and it was going to be slower at stock doc. Even though it would theoretically have a bunch of clocking had lots of people don't overclock their graphics cards. I don't bother anymore mines. Aw I understand why most people wouldn't. I've just always really particularly enjoyed graphics card over clocking. I don't necessarily know why I also mostly played beat sabre. So he man you were talking about the like literally runs on a quest. We'll know because okay I was talking the how the pulling rates for the tracking which the higher I'll just saying like if there's a min maxing Taber player out there it's probably you. I'm actually really getting pretty good. There's reasonably popular songs that I'm getting close to cracking like top one hundred four I and by the way did Jaden have any response to my significantly tone I did oh I want him to know. Okay well now he. Yeah Yeah I know. Jaden one of Luke's colleagues at floatplane. Technically my colleague as well even does most of the work he he went out of his way to crap on my parade. At Luke's yeah I asked. I asked him if he could do it when I was trying to full Combo Supernova Donovan expert plus and Beats Sabor and anyway. He did it but he did it. Really sloppily quite frequently and my score is nearly fifty thousand in higher than his so And I have full Combo now so there you go. Didn't there's your challenge. Anyway I have I have a screen shot to have a proof screen shot so anthony was super upset about the situation with the fifty six hundred x t because fortunately he had been busy with something else for the two days prior to the via BIOS update otherwise he would have basically had to do is testing twice. Yeah and then because the communication around the situation was so terrible we. We weren't able to message it correctly in our video because they were still like. Hey Yeah let us look into this. What do you mean let you look into it? You know what you're doing now you have to no no now so you just tell us and this is just the kind of sloppy stuff. That is really frustrating for us where it's like just communicate Kate you have one job as pr of well press Wolfson's Y- one job to be there. They're one job is probably to mislead you in that moment. I don't think so what's the point it's GonNa blow up. Yeah but your initial video sounds more positive but my initial video doesn't have to be more or less positive it can just be informative. Yeah Hey hey by the way. There's a handful of cards out there that have this byles. Here's how you update it. I don't have years ago. Don't have a solution to have a solution. BIOS thing yeah they probably suspect most end users even with your video from forever ago. Aren't it can be able to do it. So yeah and upgrading. Viruses skirts is kind of scary. It is realistically you should have A. UPS Most people they have a ups. So that's what happened. I'm sorry I screwed it up. It was not Anthony's fault. I'M GONNA I'M GONNA throw. MD under the bus a little bit here but not directly necessarily meanwhile on team Green Bay launched the art twenty sixty Ko for three hundred dollars just prior to the embargo leftovers fifty five hundred x t at the time. It seemed like A. Hey look at me. We've got a low price twenty six to be Egypt but gamers next is quickly discovered something interesting about it. Unlike previous are twenty sixty s which used the t you one one oh six which is a smaller actual diets a completely different. GPU The our tax twenty six Ko from Vga the specific card used a t you one four derived GPU so this is a bigger ship. It's an entirely different processors. The same aim one. That's in the next twenty eighty and then it's just got some Khuda course. That are fused off in order to hack it back down to artifacts twenty sixty levels of performance and it kind of sounds like bidding which it kind of is these might have been. You know bad to you. Yeah however it has performance implications for applications like blender where improvements are of up to forty seven percent are possible because architecturally. The chip is actually quite different. So it's unknown known whether that GP will make its way onto other sort of bargain basement twenty sixty cards evey. Jay was apparently not aware that they were receiving different. GPS FOR THE KO. But I find that a little bit hard to believe what. How could you possibly not know? That is a pretty engineering engineering centric company. A lot of people think that is one of those like slap a slap our label on it and resell it type of company. Because this in the early days they were more like that. So you know back when I'm talking back when it was like beat F G Vija Asia and I'm trying to remember who the heck else even gene. But the reason why misbehaved G. is entirely why they're taking advantage of their lifetime warranty on Sir. They offered it. I mean it's not my fault. Yeah they were anyway so the point is way back then. It was pretty common for are up just brandon companies to take graphics cards that were made by actual engineering companies. And then figure out some other way to to add value to it whether it was through through game bundles that they negotiated or t shirts that they put in the sticker. A poster in a game or great customer service. Whatever whatever the case may be but over the years I mean if I recall correctly they bought chain tax motherboard? Or was it. I can't remember. They bought epochs parks. It was either epochs are chain tech. They bought one one of them when not motherboard company like ditch there enthusiast division or something like that but they have actual engineers on staff. Now I find it very very hard to believe. Leave that given how deeply involved in the hardware and firmware engineering and like over clocking tools. I find it very hard to believe. They accidentally put the wrong chip or like didn't realize it was a completely different chip on their on their cards because they don't look the same so here hold on a second. That's what I was GONNA say. He's like visually different. Yeah it's not care. Let's find a die shot of a not one of four. Hopefully my screamers here okay. So here's a to you WANNA for. Unfortunately I can't see Douai size. I wish I could To you know six die size so anyway. That's that's the die so to you. WanNa sex is has four hundred and forty five millimeter square to you on. Oh four I size. Five hundred and forty five millimeter square. They are physically different sides. Yeah like if you just like look at them they look different. One of them is bigger. I just I find it very very hard to believe. You're cooler would almost certainly change. I'm not necessarily but the would have to change. It's a different chip hip. So they're more power delivery so one of the things that I think Emerson X.. Is still working on you. Guys should definitely check out his follow up. Coverage of this is whether the six based ones might have more over clocking headroom because it's less power-hungry chip so you might end up being a trade off no one saying saying like don't don't buy dough by it or anything because you know it's like they're both fine. If all you're doing is gaming you probably would would never notice the difference. But if you're interested in productivity you might want to go to you for Baseman and if you're more interested in like I wanNA squeeze the maximum amount of over clocking potential out of this thing might might be less likely to hit a power limitation on to sex not confirmed yet to my knowledge. All right what else we got for. Oh actually what we need to jump right. INTO TO OUR SPONSOR MOSS MOSS organizer is in the business of keeping you. Here we go there. It is luke sized one in the business of keeping you protected Organiz but simple products. 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Well no they've asked why it has a pickaxe on in it and it was just like I don't know eight looks kind of cool. Yeah and they were like what minecraft I'm like. It doesn't look like a Mike Catt. It looks like like a regular pick. These are not minecraft diamonds. Diamonds aren't even valuable in minecraft. You'll hurt him to get a diamond play. Button diamonds are pretty valuable. Are they thought they weren't at that valuable. Compared to like rubies. Their sue symptoms. I will okay. What's more valuable than diamonds in minecraft? Yeah I'm not a micro veteran enough okay but but there's there's probably some stuff I don't know I thought diamonds were just like kind of crap definitely not kind of crap. I know that we are finally getting somewhat close to the minecraft server launch. We'll I'll say we had a little thing. The other day alter has one button setup for that they don't have a one button setup for like a video streaming so so you know what I was just GonNa say I've actually come up with what I think is a very clever new nickname for the lead on that project. I'M GONNA call them floatplane. Jake not bad. I remember when he told me it was going to launch in December. Okay so so I'm not trying to dig what is the holdup. It's like actually on a completely absolutely different level from what we initially set up. I'm sure else. It would have been up in a day. 'CAUSE I've seen him put up my craft service before so like I know there's stuff going on because I have played on. Jacob bears like all these like game mode like this hub that you'll land in and it's like a whole giant thing and there's like really going to town all this load balancing between multiple instances and crap like that server that we built to be the ultimate minecraft so it's completely dismantled. We're we're we're hosting get out of data center. We may end up reassembling that and there's a data center that we might be able to send it to okay so we could just so that we could claim the moral victory is technically involved of that. Some of our players are actually playing on it. But but no it's it's apparently and I I have seen some stuff. It looks really legit. It's like not just minecraft server okay. It's like pretty cool. The bad news. This is that it has actually taken a significant amount of resources so while our initial intent was for it to just be like. Ll everyone on. We're GONNA GONNA have donations and stuff. That's why I've been. Confused is because I remember when it was like. Oh Yeah it's live everyone's playing on it we're GONNA make some tiny tweaks it can be done on Monday. No I've had this experience a lot at floatplane. Yeah so I get it. So the scope of the project project quite dramatically and really without my explicit approval. kind of like how the whole thing. Things started without my explicit approval lake. I like I said Yeah. You know like let's okay. Here's where I run into trouble. I I said Yeah. Let's do it upright and Jake took that to mean let's do it up the right test. Let's dude perfect. Yeah so what I really meant. was you know. Hey I want to make sure that you know people come on Eh. are going to be like yeah. This is not total crap. It's pretty sweet avenue new minecraft home. Yeah Yeah not even that like. I just WANNA chill with like other indefinitely. I know they are like tech. And we're going to build video cards in minecraft or whatever like I just wanted to be like minecraft server. He's trying to build the the minecraft server he wants it to be people's new homes and I'm like okay. Sure he's been pitching US getting into like game server hosting basically since he started he's super passionate about it and my whole thing is that like I tell people. Hey if you have a passion project I want to do my best to support it and so every once in a while somebody asks me to put up and you're like oh I'm like well Jake has ended up writing Two videos in the last eight weeks or something like that because he has been actually hammering away at this or should I say pickaxe Ghanem Oh boy so yeah we're GONNA WE'RE GONNA do. We're going to do our best anyway when I wanted to film. UCF F. is going on with that. That video series that I did yes yes. I had extremely low production for very long time to watch those recently and I'm still pretty proud of them so that's cool good. I had to pick up a lot of slack for a little bit. Happy happy to do it so anyway. It has an axle Aksa. Skiing accident has a tax on. It is nothing to do with minecraft. We do have minecraft server coming totally unrelated by the way this is ten million in binary which I I which I think is cute. I think it's cool. It's you know which is cool. But it's really misleading at the beginning. But do you think it's what do you think it is. I didn't know well it's it's not misleading. It just doesn't lead anywhere sure doesn't lead you down the wrong path or does it. Did you think it was like well. No I just yeah so I guess yes. You're right because I was just like. Yeah one thing is that this picture is not exactly no so. It's kind of got like a weathered. Look like it does is in on our shirts which is actually kind of hard to see on camera So yeah there's kind of like some holes in the print. It's not yeah. It's not not really intense weathering but it's enough that it looks like it's kind of rough hewn yet like you went out and you got that yourself your pickaxes worn now. Yeah but you didn't didn't. Yeah because it's hard unless I don't know like PD pies watching language. He's not so vacation. Yeah all all right so let's move on to more tactile. Packs interns like random news articles. Saying you retired it just felt extremely. PD Pie yeah. So if you defy once he quit. He didn't quit quit. No I mean in fairness to them he does like actually play that the big game and his mislead me leaving my whole channel. You know like that kind of thing. This is rough so technically this is supposed to buy Spiderman sixty four on the forum virtually every Lenovo thinkpad since two thousand seventeen apparently has defective. USB Ports Nice Ace so there's an official INOVA support page outlining at least three dozen affected models and symptoms include the port simply not working the thunderbolt controller disappearing hearing from device manager Hd. My output failure even hanging during Post said to occur within six to twelve months of typical usage. There's a preventive driver update for affected models. But there's no word on what what that entails exactly for performance and power delivery once per issue presents itself only a motherboards fix it that is pretty rough especially for a brand that is known for building tanks that are designed disguised as computers. Yup GotTA gotTa give Lenovo a little bit of a show for consistently giving US news topics. Thank you guys on the board. Having spyware built into them to use be not not working I appreciate EU and Google proposed ban on facial recognition US considering a new law that would prevent private and and public actors from using facial recognition in public spaces for a definitive period. Three to five years. Microsoft says. It's bad because they're served developing facial recognition. You don't say they say you don't ban it if you actually believe. There's a reasonable alternative. That will enable us to say address. This problem with a scalpel instead of a meat cleaver said Brad Smith President. Google supports the move which is interesting to me just shocking. Yeah I think it's important that governments and regulators tackle it sooner rather rather than later and give a framework for it. Although in light of some of the recent finds that they've received some of which have actually been more than a slap on the wrist. Like the COPPA one. I can see why Google might say. Well yeah okay fine. You're stupid ground rules. And then we'll go in like innovate a bunch of stuff. We'll we'll wait instead of the other way around. Yeah yeah no that does make sense from their angle. I think it's Oh man I'm torn actually so this is this. This is private and public. Does this include government because I know. UK is like super well known for just having cameras. Everywhere yeah this would be in public spaces. Yes okay yes so you'd still be able to develop it and test it just not in public spaces in your store. Alex apparently put some of his own thoughts in here. Says this is a really good idea. but counter intuitively the accuracy of facial recognition. Apparently drops as you add more faces Acess to the pool but that would also get better as the algorithms continued to learn. Yeah when you add more of one face but it doesn't get better when you had more of have a bunch of faces that make sense So yeah there's a lot of issues with facial recognition. Here's a fun example example at the Notting Hill Carnival where two million people attended. The police used facial recognition to try to find wanted criminals. Ninety six people were flagged and only only one was actually wanted and had already been arrested. So it's obvious there's a lot of work to be done but my sort of flipside argument to this and take this as someone who who is already completely given up their privacy and shares their innermost thoughts on the Internet. So like you know for me. It's like not only. Has the ship sails came back back and then sailed again and came bates a ferry. You know it's like Italy daily trips. Yeah from my point of view surprising goes in the audience is actually in a similar space. Considering the things that the US I'd love for it to just be better but the flip side of that is that it. I don't live somewhere. My government is oppressing me with that said no government that is gonNA use facial recognition to oppress. Its citizens is going to even consider accepting this band anyway. So it's a completely academic conversation in that case get real China's going to be like yellow bad public spaces there's there's a large variety of different types of oppression. I think people take I Dunno where I'm going sent. Its but I think people might go against that. They could intends to use it for repression is going to ban. Its use in public spaces to you. You said or maybe you didn't say this I thought you said Repression in general not just this form. Oh just repression in general. Yeah so like. But there's like different kinds so they might be like yeah okay. Let's not use facial recognition. But we're still going to get. I mean I live somewhere where I get to enjoy a very high level of personal freedom. Yeah so I you know for me. It's very easy to say like. Yeah I just want to get better. So that in the event that they are looking for someone who is running around with a meat cleaver mind children that they can catch them real fast. They should add meat cleaver recognition. I don't think anyone's necessarily I don't think anyone's necessarily gonNA stop developing this in the background. Though no no use might halt. Yeah and I think it will stall development probably because it's a little bit harder to test wide-scale it'll make it more difficult with that. Said I totally agree that if your development plan is to just use it on unwitting guinea pigs who are wandering around in the street. That's a bad plan. So you know what they're pays them pay some random citizens to come to walk doc around in like an arena mark down this day mark down. This Day. I changed my opinion between the start of a topic in the end. I already thought it was like good idea but I was like well. Here's this counterargument. I no longer have a counter argument. I like it. Let's just nuke it for a few years. Keep developing it sort of quietly in the background. I'm GONNA flip sites just to try to drag you back. You have got to be kidding me no no. I don't want to do this so somewhere that they don't bend this. Those those companies that operate out of those areas. We'll now have an advantage so you're saying like Chinese companies are GonNa immense advantage on like ai and machine gene learning facial recognition crap. So then is there like what are you actually really helping them. Because it's not going to be banned. I'm bad it's just. It's not even right now. Being proposed to be banned in the US. I'm back I'm back. Okay forget it you win you win twice. How's it feel awesome like it? You just waiting to do that. We're a little bit the whole time. Yeah we did bring up to the store and we did. It's all right. I don't remember if he said that they're really limited edition. I did and we have Blake Limited stock as well. We have limited stock. I didn't know that as much as wherever you know what I mean like. I have no idea what that means. These aren't going to last last forever and they will run out. Okay do do we just have like not that many blanks right now. We we did notice that. There's a preorder thing. Yes so so. Is there like their shirts. Yeah oh I thought we had lots of stock black the way they're being ordered right now. We're not going to have that much. Stock Flach oh I see we need to get more. Black shirts aren't any right so okay okay. So business talk. It's hard to get enough shirts in Canada. Basically so if anyone from American perils watching can you please fix that that would be great. Thanks because we really like your shirts but you're making it. Very hard for us is to use them there. That was my sincere call for help. Yeah full send your yeah. Yeah so we've been we've been working on a replacement and we had what we thought was a really promising in candidate. The actual like feel the material. The breathe ability seemed really good and then we got we got photos of the shop where they were being made and everything seemed on the up and up. We hadn't actually visited it yet. But we got another set of samples and I put it on like Kinda like one more time. I put it on one more time and I was like doing things I wouldn't normally do and I took the bottom of the shirt and I went like this and all the thread tour. All the thread broke and I was like well. I'm sure glad we caught that before we actually booked a plane ticket out there and went to look at the factory. Never once had that happen. That's there's something I'd do all the time but that's going to happen. It's going to get snagged on something. Whatever expect that we have to fix and I've had American apparel shirts break but she never that easily and I like went around the whole thing and I was like? They're just like breaking all the threat. I was like come on over here. Pull on this so he pulls on. It's like okay so it's there's more to building a decent shirt than you guys might probably realize Yeah we're working on it. So get one in his. They won't be here forever and these are the kind of and I've said this off camera to this is probably the kind of shirt I would grab because it's a cool commemorative kind of thing. Speaking of cool commemorative things sonos is created a commemorative pile of still working electronics. That don't work and they're in a landfill anyway. So That's pretty lame Some of their oldest devices are no longer going to receive updates as of May twenty twenty so so as a result they will eventually no longer work as services continue to change because they're not going to receive updates. They're not explicitly breaking them. They're just saying hey they might stop working at some point. They're offering two options for affected users. Option one continue using these legacy products recognizing that your system will no longer receive updates and new features including by the security updates which have been a big problem for Iot and connected device. General option number two trade trade up to a new SONOS product with a thirty percent credit for every legacy product. You replace which is all finding good except for one big problem. Sonos doesn't allow you to continue to use news or anyone to continue to use the still working device that you have. They actually push an update to it that brexit. I believe in thirty days I forget what exactly the time period is. Yeah I think this sucks basically like I understand why you don't want to support a product forever forever but a speaker is something that I kinda felt like was different in the sense that yeah go ahead. Speakers and sound equipment in general are kind of that thing. Where like if you if your dad inherited from his dad and then like gave it to you when he bought a new set or something like that? You kind of expected to still work and they're probably still really nice like sound equipment does kind of stick around. So it's it's weird. Seeing them treated like a commodity and not just a commodity but like disposable even when they still work in the problem with these speakers. And it's really highlighting an issue with smart devices in general is that you have no control control over how long they still worked for. And once the company decides that they're not gonNA work anymore they have no purpose whatsoever because Sonos doesn't Have just like a regular like Jack in or RCA in so they actually do get completely useless. I remember criticizing being apple back when they launched the AMAC Five K.. For not having a monitor mode on it. What's up? Oh this is good so I just checked something so no. CEO Response to backlash. Oh this is great. How wonderful awful? That's a cool twist. We'll continue to update legacy products. So let's read this on android central recently announced it would be ending following backlash. They assures they won't be Britain. Tony Way also working on a way to split your system between old end current devices in the event that they do need to develop new features that rely on new hardware many of you have invested invested heavily. We intend to honor that investment for as long as possible while legacy sums products won't get new software features we pledged to keep them updated with bug fixes and security patches for as long as possible entirely the reasonable to me okay. We're talking alternative solution. It's something to the experience. We heard that you heard on the issued issued legacy products in modern products. Not being able to exist within your home Blah Blah Blah et Cetera et Cetera et CETERA. Okay well that's something I do. You wonder though if it's just kind of delaying the inevitable. I don't wonder I mean it seems like it's just delaying the inevitable. And it is very frustrating to see products designed in such a way that they're eventually going going to be worth nothing and useless even though they still function. I criticized apple over the five K.. Because they did away with a mode that existed on previous. I'm Max that allowed you to use it. As a monitoring once the hardware inside was too decrepit to this is awesome because the screen is awesome. I was like wow I love this this thing so great could I just like use it on my as a monitoring. Because I don't like I don't like Mac. Os and expensive. The answer was no and it was really frustrating for me because it basically just this means that that thing is e waste once you're done displays terrible like terrible. They're basically impossible to recycle in any meaningful way because of the way that all the layers are laminated together. I have an update. Yeah what can I do for you on the thing really still band or Yes oh I finally got a live chat with someone The call out on the the last one show as far as I can tell did effectively. Nothing but I finally got in a live chat with someone which was surprisingly difficult to do. He opens it up. Saying I understand you wish to appeal. Your suspension is this correct. I said yeah although even if that fails I really like just to understand what actually went wrong. Because 'cause I have no idea and talk about how my dad stuff he said looks like the suspension has already been upheld. We will not be able to discuss it any further. I was like okay. Ignore the appeal you. Can we just talk about like what actually happened. Because I still don't know chatting with this person live chat. I still don't know and I'd like to understand so I don't get band again in the future. He said we do not discuss that Info with players. I said I'm confused. He said again. We do not give any details beyond what is emailed to you. Those details can be be used to make you more. Undetectable I said I'm not trying to be. Undetectable he says cool. then you understand why we do not give any further details and cannot discuss this this further. was there any additional questions or concerns. I can take a look at before we part ways I said I don't really understand how to move forward Although I guess if that's that's all you can say we're done He said you're welcome to play on another account or access this one in six months. I said well I'm rather scared that we'll get Bantu he said if you fear that what you normally do in game we'll get you suspended then you may want to take a second. Look what you're doing in game. I said the email specifically said it's an external program. Not What I do in game. And then he said since since this is not something we are going to discuss any further and you have brought up no other issues. I must be on my way chat. It closed hands down viewers customer sport experience. I've ever had my life horrible double. What's completely horrible? What an asshole? Yeah pretty much. I still have the idea what happened and I love. How like they? Clearly don't care because I can play on another account officially officially. Yeah you're gonNA give them more money but like bright. It's just what the whole thing is just ridiculous because normally like and I'm not trying to remove this option but normally there's like Banha vision is a bad thing. Yeah Yeah like if you get banned temporarily or permanently off of the forum ban evasion is something we look into this very serious. Yeah and like Banha Vision on a temporary we ban can lead to a permanent band. Yes and they're like. Oh no no no. That's fine you can go ahead and play. You can go play some on a different account. That's no problem. Just not the one that we band and you're getting that one back in half a year this whole thing just none of it. I still have no idea what even happened. I don't know what program it was. I don't know if it was. VPN In for work. I don't know if it was some other program for work. Who knows I just thought yeah? Just throw that update out there. Burnt Bridge was possible. But that's fine. I just thought it was worth airing. Wow well thanks. Blizzard expense guys search Sir Super Awesome. You provided two topics for the wind. Show John DOE CAC says Luke hire lawyers and sue blizzard to force disclosure. You have got to be kidding. It's really doesn't work that way even if it did no. I'm not hiring a lawyer over that while account. Yeah I mean all we can really do is just say that. That's really stupid opinion. Ridiculous form of communication. I can't believe that yet. Blizzard account has been opened for an extremely long time. That wow account was from from the Beta of the original launch while I've been a customer of theirs for a long time bought basically blizzard product. Yeah I've played every game. They've released east and they are treating you like dog crap. Yeah it's it's crazy yup okay very very strongly about our four-plane floatplane customer support at this point T- GM says Luke just play the superior NFL final fantasy fourteen. No I just I don't really have an interest in any ammo outside of that. Wanted to be honest like it that one particularly brings my family together really nicely right so. That's a huge part. The draw there for me. All right I gotta go guys wife. Who has the Tummy Ache and needs to be driven home? So thank you guys is very much I will try to go through a couple of super chats all them but I really can't do all of them. There are far too many. Thanks rid splits thanks Cole. Await heard you talking about Microsoft teams. What are your thoughts on office? Three six five versus G. Suite. We actually do use both. They're both very different for different things. I don't know teams Kinda sucks. They actually they cover a lot of similar things. Ed Are you trying to send me a message or tell me something thing or thumbnail. You want me to approve a thumbnail can i. Can I see but a lot of the things that they cover that are similar. One of them is way better at one than the other. Thank you so it's still quite beneficial to have both like having word and Excel is actually quite useful even above Docs and sheets. There's things you can do an excel that you can't really do cheats. It's yeah and there's certain excel sheets that don't really translate well into Google sheets so having it's also really powerful but then g mail is like fantastic and Jason Carpool critics is coming back to floatplane. Don't worry it's all good. I already okay. So that's it thanks. Oh Yeah if you're looking looking for movie podcast to watch. Check Carpool critics. It's James Riley and David's baby. They feel very strongly that it. It is awesome and I actually listened to more episodes of Carpool critics than I have any other podcast ever combined. Because I listen to everyone and I don't really listen to podcasts. uh-huh so yeah go check it out. We could go was parasite The top three movies of the decade one has actually done really well. Seems like people are really into that one. 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Upgrade 233: Let's Start a Rumor

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Upgrade 233: Let's Start a Rumor

"From really FM. This is upgrade episode two hundred and thirty free today show is brought to you by fresh books. Luna display and insta- book. My name is my colleague I'm joined by Jason. Hi, Jason snow are Mark early. How are you? Very. Well, Jason snow very well. Indeed. We have a hashtag Snell toll question from CONNER and Kana wants to know Jason when you're wearing only one episode or when you take an airport out of your ear, which one do you take out? Left right. Okay. That's very I. I don't know. Why does this make me left brained? I always when I'm holding a phone to my ear or if I've got one ear bud in. It's always in my right ear. And I it's not like I have a hearing issue in my left ear. I just whenever I'm holding a phone to my left ear it feels completely wrong. Okay. So my my right. My right ear I will also as a bonus I will point out that as miraculously as the the airports are. I my ears are itchy. And I hate it that if I have to scratch one of my ears and take out one of the year pods that the that the podcast. I'm listening to stops. I should probably do something about that. But it's such a good feature all the rest of the time. But it was moments where I'm like, no, I don't I don't wanna scratch. I don't wanna scratch because I don't want to stop listening to. Oh god. I gotta take the gotta scratch my year now. Yep. I don't like that. That's a that's a. It's an issue. They should have like a anti-itch plastic on it or something. Anyway. Right. The right right is the answer. If it's the pulse specifically making your is. No, no, they just they just anyway. But then I have the air pot in there. I I wonder if I should get some sort of like a technique where I where I like bring my finger up and like touch the proximity sensor, and then carefully lifted away. But I don't think that'll work. I think it will. I think you'll know that the is up and problem won't let me scratch your wall. Still listening with the takeout my right and a punt. And I think I know why this is because the right side is where the controls of always being for iphone abuts and for like, I put it right stuff. Dangling dangling controls are on the way. That's right, volume and the buttons and stuff. So I think I'm used to when I want to change something my right arm goes up to my ear. You know, like it goes up towards my in. So that's why I take the right one out. That's that's my theory. Anyway, stick into it. All right. Thank you on for this very peculiar. But somewhat interesting question on the lesson. That is what we love here, the hashtag, snow talk. Yeah. I think that is like an archetypal Snell thought question, which is personal very specific. And a little bit pointless. Well, we would not. So that question, you know. Thank you part of follow up for sure. Token of which there are some audio book streaming services said this was something we spoke about in hashtag, ask upgrade Lee end of last week show. We add an upgrading right into say. Why the no audiobook streaming services? And we were like that seems like there should be some tons out there all some I just don't know about them. But luckily, our upgradings do so we had some suggestions come in pita Rotin to suggest -scribed. But without an e I'm pretty sure that this company used to do something else. Yes. Well, they used to be much more of a place where people could post copyright violations. Right. I don't I don't have a scribe script. Whatever it is. I have a very positive relation with that brand mostly because my entire relationship with him with sending cease and desist about people. Posting whole issues of MacWorld on it used to be scans. Right. They used to stands. Okay. So now, they also do unlimited audiobooks, and such and then another company called place to who. You have a whole bunch of us is that that I don't feel like a fully understand movie streaming services and e-book streaming services. But also an audiobook shaming service and less than sent that one in and then Lawson from Corey who sent in high books as an books high bow and Lorenzo said that in a few countries, you can go to story tell as T O R Y T E L dot com. So they're out there. It seems like there's no dominant player. And I I am a little skeptical about. Whether the catalogs are very good. But they it's worth investigating. If you're somebody who is looking for a, you know Spotify or net flicks for audiobooks, but so they are out there. But it seems like it's much smaller part of the market than she's interesting music. Yeah. It's interesting to me that it seems like I mean, you're where assuming that these these will one hundred percent above bullet, disservices bless just assume they all they have the right deals that need to tend to have this content if they can exist. It's surprising that accompany like an apple or an Amazon annul doing this. That just seems like a surprise to me if it can exist. Then it surprising to me that are doing it. And I have heard that there that there is some audio contents of spoken word content on Spotify at least two which seems weird. But like they've been put in the system, even though they're even though they're they're audio content. They've been putting the music system. So that if you're a Spotify user or even an apple music user, I dunno search around maybe you'll find something. But the it is a little bit weird. But I think it is the economics. Like, I said last week the economics of the publishing industry that publishers are really reluctant for books and audiobooks to give out the purchase model to a you know, it's like we talked about with apple news, right? It's the it's d- want to give that up for a promise of a portion of a big pot of money. And I think publishers have done the calculation and the kind of are reluctant to do that. But I guess I'm expecting that old -able plays you mole because people will specifically choosing you'll book they are purchases. Right. The audible description is giving you credits to make purchases and that and that's their way of creating a subscription model, quote unquote, subscription service that in the end is basically all carte purchase system the same ibooks audiobook, so my expectation. Would be that lodge publishes. Don't wanna rock that boat. Because people right now that want to get audio books are paying by and large paying full price full those audio books. So maybe there is an incentive there on on the PA the big publishes two not one of rock that boat because you know, look, what happened to the music industry now won't buys albums anymore. So that we got talking of which of all this stuff. We have some upstream news. So wanna media's new streaming boss? Kevin Reilly who we spoke about few weeks ago. He's recently put in place had he's kind of press junket, and one of the biggest headline tidbits that Riley was talking about is saying that it is not a good model to share. So he's talking about when before he came on board. One immediate did a deal with Netflix one hundred million dollars to renew their friends contract for streaming. This was before say Kevin took the role, and he seems to not be in the mindset that that is a thing that wanna media should be doing going forward when talking about what referred to as the kind of crown jewels of the one of media catalog Riley says they should be exclusive to their upcoming service that don't think this about all of that content. I think that taking a slightly different stunts to Disney. Because Riley says he feels one immediate has such a large folio that they can do some deals, but they need to be more strategic about it and not be giving away that big stuff and friends is obviously a very big thing for them. But I think that friends deal was just one year so considering one or not going to be starting even a baiter of this of until twenty twenty that were be able to get France back for it. Yeah. It's it makes sense. This is the way video stuff is is a panning out. Here is people want to at this point in the game. People wanna use their content to set exclusives to force you. If you want to see it you need to pay and the s this this is like the decision CBS made with pudding Star Trek on all access instead of just putting it on net flicks. They could've made more money upfront putting it on that flex worldwide instead of just outside of North America. But they wanted in the US they wanted to use it to build a new service. And this is what Riley saying here, which is why I could make money selling friends to net flex, but I'd really in the long run. It's more valuable to us as part of the content of our service to make people find it more appealing just checked. It was a multi year deal. Nobody knows how long it is between that flex and wanna meet. It's yeah. It's a multi year deal. It's a non exclusive deal, which means that the Warner media service will probably launch with friends, but there are, but it will go for a few more years. It's unclear how long also being on Netflix. Yeah. Where Warner media's not gonna have the exclusive, but Netflix won't have the exclusive either. But it doesn't make a selling point for one not not right at first. But you can see what Riley saying here is in the long run. A very much like like marvel Netflix where you could see the writing on the wall. How I set you up for our next story right there. You have. Just before we went live today on the show coming from deadline. There will be no more seasons of punish o or Jessica Jones. These are the last two marvel Netflix shows yet it hadn't yet officially been canceled because they were still rolling out there final season. And obviously everybody knows the jig is up because they did this even before the Jessica Jones season rolls out. They were going to they waited for after punisher rolled out. But yeah, so this is I mean, we we've talked about it before marvel net flicks on both sides. This is the deal that was made in a different era and five years ago, and that era is ending and marvel stuff is going to go on Hulu, and it's going to go on Disney. Plus, but it's not gonna go on Netflix, and Netflix is not going to give its competitor money for shows that are built on intellectual property, it doesn't control. So that model is over. And so these shows are over and there is if you're a fan of those shows, it's really sad. There's probably not a big chance that they will ever come back in any form. Elsewhere, it's not completely impossible. But there. Several years where Netflix gets to sit on them and have them be exclusive on their service yet season three. Jessica Jones is coming out soon that's going to be lost. And that's it for these. Apparently that one they knew enough about what was going on with all the other shows that that is what I've heard is that that that series ends with a a more with some more finality in terms of storytelling because I think they they had the heads up that this was going to be the end end of marvel on Netflix. Going to one a media. They did call out specifically that they would have some shows set of the DC universe. Oh, yes. The thing future original content because that's something that they have hand. And if they do a good job of it. They can really they could really make some cool stuff. Yeah. The real mystery is what this means for the DC universe service, which is DC video content, and movies, and comics, my guess is that like HBO the Warner streaming service will be a super set because I think that's another thing that Riley says that you know, HBO content will be in the in the Warner streaming service. Like I unclear whether all of it will be or not. But I I have a hard time believing that it won't be you can get H B O for this low price, you can get DC universe for this low price, and for this lightly larger price, you can get Warner cer- streaming service with everything, but we'll see how they do it. Because you know, why do you wanna make DC shows for just this one? Niche streamer, it seems like that's that's a decision. They would make today. They would they would say we don't DC universe streaming. And they may they may fold the whole thing up and put it inside at some point. And they're the plan is to get this out early. I think sometime in twenty twenty but the content for this and the NBC universal streaming services coming in twenty twenty it sounds like it's everything we talked about about apple which takes a long time to make content and that that means that they're going to start with a small amount. And then they're going to have to build it over time. Now, they'll start with catalogs both of these because they have catalogs of content that they own unlike apple, but you know, it takes a couple years to roll out a full slate of shows for streaming service and they're both behind. So it'll be a what he called it. Like a beta version in two thousand twenty which is really like. Yeah. It'll be I think not I don't think it will necessarily be so much beta in terms of functionality as beta in terms of what's on it. All she's wall stuff away HBO. And some some some DC and maybe like another couple of shows and a catalog, and then we'll figure it out and more shows next year. All right. 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So it looks like there's going to be an event apple event much twenty fifth. This news kind of roll it out slowly over the loss week started with a report from John Paschi of BuzzFeed prac- Saskia reported an upcoming event Ammash twenty fifth at the Steve Jobs theater. Apple pock that would be focused on streaming. Well on services, I should say sorry focused on services hausky spoke about pretty much primarily news description service. This happens just a couple of days off the the rumor that came out the apple wanted to take a fifty percent cut for publishes wanna walk with them on this of us. Jason we spoken about this new service. We spoken about the hesitancy of news organizations wanted to work with apple now, we may be no a little bit more about why that is right. Well, the fifty fifty cut. Which is rumored to be what they're doing is they want they want fifty fifty which seems to be maybe the deal that a lot of the magazines who are. Kind of desperate or taking because apple has obviously sold them on the idea that the that this is going to be huge. And there's going to be a lot of money, and we're just going to be. It's doesn't matter that we're taking half of the money for your content because we're all going to be rolling in dough because everybody's gonna pay money for this. And you know, it's not been been Thompson wrote a great piece about it on strategic ary. Basically, I if you're a premium subscription model company, like your time of Wall Street Journal, the Washington Post, this deal doesn't make sense. I don't think it makes sense thirty percent. I don't think it makes sense at fifteen percent, quite honestly. But it it certainly doesn't make sense at fifty percent for them. But if you're a smaller publisher, and you're desperate for more incremental revenue, maybe it works. I a this report makes me think that it will be a work in progress when it launches and that they'll Apple's going to have to make some recalibration 's. And I just I don't have. I don't have a really good vibe about the service. I remain open to the possibility that it will be good. But I'm skeptical because it seems like a bad deal for publishers, which means it's going to be a limited number of publishers. And maybe I get I don't know. I just get the feeling that this may suggest that apple has an unrealistic opinion of what this is that they think that they've solved it and that a lot of their partners. Don't agree and are not willing to sign onto this. And without a good selection of partners. It's hard to sell something. Like this. You throw it in a bun. Title, which is I suspect. Now, what they're going to do having having gotten the, you know, adding this to the list, and we talked about this. I think last time that makes me feel the bundle is really going to happen. And if you bundle it with music video, maybe that's part of the calculation there. Although what what is the bundle? You know, fifty percent of whatever they assign the value of the news percentage of the bundle. At that point. I don't know and also dependent on people actually reading Oakland. Right. Because it seems like from the the that can be paying out the money based on engagement in apple new, right? So you can go in on this. But you might not make anything it also means that if you are somebody who gets paid by readers to make content your goal is to serve your readers. If you're somebody who gets paid by the number of pages, viewed guess what click bait time like this is a model that unless they've come up with some very clever ways, which I doubt to beat it. It means that they'll be click bait within apple news because you want to drive engagement with your story. So you get a bigger percentage. And I don't think that's good. You won't believe what happened next. Jason, you will know Willie believe it in just checking apple news and you'll find out. So, you know, we'll see. But I think what's interesting is that Picasso's story was followed up by by Gherman, right? And Gherman said, yes, it's the apple video launch. Also news will be there, which it makes much more sense. Right. Can't really imagine. The tap dancing onstage lives in a little bit. Because possess key source says in the article like his said, he had no details on whether the video service will we'll be shown because his sources somebody in in a magazine somewhere. Could be any anything. Right. Like, we don't know the public that mean, that's probably the case. But anyway, it's really somebody who's only been briefed about what they need to do to participate in the news part of the event. Well, he say that he he's he's claiming though Hardouin though, an Ponson though, I chance that's that's true. That's your. Although that seems very very separate and not surprising. That could be a secondary thing. He has a separate separate hardware source. And so this lead lots of people to believe that. Oh, well, there's going to be a video service launch. And and you know, I'm sure I'm sure you agreed. With may actually you did from reading your article on six colors kind of you'll link to tobacco skis point on this. His report it seemed madness to me that you would have an event like this show off the streaming service stuff that's the crown jewel. Not this. Widow magazine service. Soundly, so Montgomery and new show Sukhoi. So qui- of Bloomberg. They had a report the apple has invited. Many the stars. They are working with two event as we spoken about many times in the pasta because they will indeed be showing the first information video service. Apparently this list includes Jj Abrams. Jennifer, Aniston Reese Witherspoon, Jennifer Ghana. I saw variety as well. That that variety saying that they have had this will include the first trailers clips, if there are any we'll shown, but this is still like, hey, some two full thing. Yes. That is really. That was really interesting, and I wonder obviously, they're going to have foot 'age to show. Right. I think it might even turn into something kinda like the up fronts where it's literally apple saying, here's what our lineup is. Or it may be here. Here's some samples of the shows. We're doing with the people who are involved with them. In. It wouldn't shock me if they even release pilots right or release a handful of things to people on apple music as a teaser for the whole thing that's coming in the fall. That's a possibility certainly trailers. But but the variety note is interesting in that it contradicts other reports that have said that they need that they told them that the service is launching April. Which what does that mean what variety says is it's literally March April they're going to do a rollout, which may be this event. And then maybe they dropped some sample episodes or something but variety says the bulk of the content at least is gonna launch summer or fall of this year, which is also a new a new thing that that, you know, from their sources of the variety, and the Bloomberg reports mentioned multiple times again, the idea that apple will be selling of channel. Subscriptions through this of like Amazon prime does. So maybe that's what comes in and before the content, right? Like, oh doing mole with the TV app. Now, you'll be able to buy this channel in the shadow in this channel right in the TV at maybe that comes first, we don't know. But that could be something that apple does if they don't have enough of their own content. Put forward new service is stated slate to be shipping with twelve point two in the summa. Maybe maybe some of this TV stuff comes with that at the same time. Who knows this is going to be a real interest in draft. Yeah, you're right. The picks are going to be super with right like Jj Abrams. His ex essential existential draft of like what like imaginary weird apple that? We haven't seen before. Yeah. Absolutely. I think Jj Abrams James is an enormous apple fan. So I I think I can really see him like running up on stage and being like, I just so excited to beat Nabela vent kind of thing would not surprise me at all. But yeah. It that's a an event like, no, no other Mike. And so that'll be interesting. Yeah. Upgrade listeners the see if we can do the service that we try and help you out with sometimes this is probably going to be a really boring vent, right? There's going to be a law. Celebrities come out when Drake came out cry that five times in a row because that's what this one's going to be like, you know, a bunch of stars is gonna come out direct is gonna come out. And I'm gonna talk about their shows. Like, you're not gonna get anything exciting Okina. Sneak a one thing new ipad in there on you. Then do in that right? Like, his someone from the Wall Street Journal porno the luxury journal, but like his from vogue, his Jj Abrams and his Eddie cute. It's all about it. All like, it's it's going to be re is going to be a slug this one. I think so just in mind. Wow. You mentioned Drake. I can't believe you mentioned Drake. That's that the analogue right? That's the closest approach Drake out to talk about. I don't even know what he was talking about. Because like it wasn't. They didn't have anything specific with them. And so I think it's going to be is going to be a very kind of Regula press event. Typically, the type of thing that we don't see from apple right? But like, you'll get a lot of companies duties types of things you mentioned the up fronts if you don't know what they are. This is when a bunch of regime sees and advertising agencies will come to rooms. And then the meteorologists what his on you shows. They are cost up front surro- TV out fronts. Here's a slate of content coming out this year with the proviso that you hopefully wanna buy it. Yeah. The president of NBC goes out on stage. All the shows that are coming in the fall and say now, you wanna buy ads on all of these is going to be like that. And whilst apple apple kind of spinning in a slight. A different way. And just like, hey, press his anew shows, and maybe wanna biology's, and as in by into Louise, and it's going to be a very Eric and a very very very different guest-list Timmel lot more entertainment journalists, right? Would would be your expectation is going to be it's going to be an interesting one for us. I don't know if the apple fan base lodge is going to have a love warm worlds to say about this event. I feel people be sitting down to expect one thing and probably gonna get of we'll say, it's just a different thing. And and I should say as the specter of Drake covers over us. Both this what the event should be right. Like, it's not an ounce is no criticism for me. One hundred percent what it has to be bringing the celebrities really important. I'm still surprised that they're doing it in Cooper Tino. And not doing it Nellie. Like I felt like they really wanna glitz it up. But maybe they feel like the the stamp of the big fancy theater in coup. Patino is a better way to do it. But I'm a little surprised that they didn't do this as like a full on apple embraced Hollywood kind of thing. But maybe they were uncomfortable with that. I don't know. Yeah. Maybe maybe say the China at a bit of importance to only iphones have been introduced, right? Like the Steve Josette. That's what it's been useful. So far September funky knows. I don't think it'd be used for anything else. So like, we'll have special come out to a beautiful spaceship, and we'll treat you real nice. That's true. That's true. They could treat them treat them. I I guess we will have to choose. Whether we want to draft Jj Abrams comes out wearing vintage apple jacket. I the genuinely we're gonna have to think about going a little bit Esa Tarik with this one because things going to be there's going to be a ton of stuff. And we also know a lot more than we would know. So this this is going to be a really fun one to put together. I think it's going to be that'd be that'd be wild. That'd be towards the end. Watch. So we'll probably know him in the next two or three weeks reckon if this thing's this thing's going down when the revolt set suggested it is. All right. Let's take a second break and thank all friends over fresh books for this support of this show. Everyone loves to save time. 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A thanks the fresh books for that continued support of this show and really him. Friend of the show Minky Roger quo as we call him Roger codename, Roger codename Raja actual name nineties actually named this disc stems from new listeners stems from a time when for some reason Jason randomly cooled me Chee quo Raja because I went to college with that was a guy Roger quo. Yeah. Brings a weird. What can I say? So. Quo drop to. Yeah. Okay. Good job absolute bombshell of report on everybody yesterday. And there's a lotta stuff hip, it's it's kind of unclear at some points as these things tend to be 'cause quotas is a an analyst how much he knows how much he is expecting. But this list rings true to I would expect to see over apple over the next year. So let's go through some of this, and we'll stop and talk about some along the way. So some details about the current will the upcoming I should say twenty nineteen. I phones sizes and kind of basic specs remaining as you expect can change any of the size of the phones. They can keep lightning pulse. In oakland. Go to US BC the chief John Jiang will go by lateral, which means the iphones can charge stuff as well. As getting charged by cheese. So your app halts for exa-. Sample. If you're at pods got a wireless charging case, then you be able to charge those with your iphone, which I think will be a really really wonderful feature. But I bet wool make the cost of replacing that back glossy for more expensive than it. Currently is the token about that the gloss will be frosted on the new iphone. So I'll give it slightly different. Look intrigued to see what that ends up. Looking like if it maybe means some different college changes to make that that show through. But that that's different. Look an interesting. Look, we'll say the the pixel line is gloss and has this weird texture to it makes it look very different. So might be nice at a hold Moghreb people say upgraded face ID bunch of new intones face eighty hopefully making it foster maybe making it what from of distances say big batteries. That would be nice when the Jason just a big about if he can fit them in the church. Always that's part of the constant. Apple question of trade offs is. Size and thickness, but also battery and capacity and trying to extend the life. So yeah, that would be nice always unquote will so kind of echoes the rumor of triple cameras, but does not say with we'll see those like his warm phone all the phones. That's kind of the the information close given us about the iphones. This'll seems pretty logical to me like the bilateral charging. I think maybe the most helpful of that. It's not a huge update cycle and people will probably Howell constantly between now and win. They're released an after they're released about the fact that iphone sales or flat, and this year's models are not going to necessarily be an enormous change. It's also not surprising and not new this is sort of, you know, it takes a long time to make changes in their plant iphones and these iphones were already on the way. So these are the logical not super exciting. But you know, continuing to be available of versions of what we got this year. Or last year? It's the it's next year's half step. This is a surprise to me upgraded processes with two new pepper models. That is seem strange seems different right to take the Karnei pep pros. But new processes in the map hasn't done that for the ipad proline, they've waited right until they've been able to make big changes to the to the models. That would be interesting keen to understand why that would be so needed. And if that's old that they really would be for them. Yeah. I guess it's them treating them more like, laptops. Guess I I wonder if there's more here in terms of things they're doing for a new versions of IOS or something like that where the wanna put different hardware in there. But it does seem a little bit. I mean, I'm not gonna complain about a new I've had pro model in two thousand nineteen. But I I really didn't think that they would bother doing a yearly cycle for them. So that was a surprise his something that trying to work with trying to think through this. So the small hasty all right that required the most recent chip. And so, you know, it's the devices could do it. So they might just be some software thing that requires these new chips, and it might be an interesting the phones guest at it too. So maybe they decide to put it in the pros as well. I don't know. But that's the only thing I can think of if that's gonna do right that there might be some. Thing that is going to be a cool feature. And they would like to be on the ipad swell. But they need the new processes in them because you know, these process powerful, it's not like. You're gonna need a speed bump that seems unlikely. But again, we don't know what. Assad team's going to bring in general. Yeah. Right. Right. And there may be something like that is not part of close sources that are like explanations why they're doing this. But it may just be that. They just decided why don't we keep cycling that processor every year as we cycle it for the iphone and just keep them on the same page. I don't know sticking on the train ten point two inch version of the base, ipads, taking the current kind of regular ipad and take it from nine point seven inches to ten point two's making the basil smaller plus pad many, which quos states have just having a new process. A I expect to see the menu of new processor. He also mentions the touch kind of getting the same treatment. This feels like potentially that the processes that currently in these devices won't be supported anymore, and they wanna keep selling them yet. They have to. That's that's this is the thing that we talked about the macbook air at some point to which is like at some point. You can't keep making that thing. Like, you can't you just can't. It's too old. And you can't move ahead with your product line and sell a product that doesn't work with your product line. So it is the. I fascinated by it because there's just the basic idea that. We have to make decision about this product that we kind of don't care about. And the easy decision is to stop selling it. But there's somebody inside Abbas like, wait. Oh, don't you've got to keep selling it for some reason. Like, all right. Okay. Fine. We'll just put another processor in put back out there, which is a little bit. Like, the MAC mini story. Right. Like, it's you you need to do something. What are you going to do? All right. We'll do it. And then we're gonna let it sit there again for five more years in the really big story to wild story is a sixteen inch macbook pro. So I think easiest thing to assume here is talking a fifteen inch macbook pro within Abaza lls, bright give it a biggest screen as opposed to a brand new form factor. Yeah. I so what he says. It's a redesigned yet. He says redesigned, I take that to believe that maybe this is the first in what will be a series of replacements for the existing Akwa proline that this is the next generation of macbook pro in. It's starting with this model now, maybe that's wishful thinking, but that's my that's my hope is that. That's what it is. I think I think the fifteen inches. A real is a real question. Right. Which is we know that apple has had success in just pushing the bells in right light to or I mean, I guess out making the making him super thin, and that's a trend in the laptop world in general PC, laptops, as well. So when we say sixteen or or I think said sixteen or sixteen plus in some of think so much sixteen sixty point five is the yeah. My gut feeling is that ultimately this is the replacement for the fifteen inch MAC pro. But what it is is thinner Basil's, and maybe a wider, maybe the MO the laptop gets a little wider, but they will make some claim about it being thinner or lighter or better by volume or whatever it is. Right. But I don't think what what we used to think of as the step from the thirteen to fifteen to seventeen which was an enormous distance and size. I don't think that's the kind of size difference. You would get from this one. That's my feeling is that this isn't like the new lunch tray of seventeen inch laptop that what they're trying to do is create a fifteen inch model Amiga fifteen inch model with more screen space without it being enormous. And that that in the end. Yeah. In the end, maybe the product line is the sixteen inch macbook pro a. Fourteen inch macbook pro instead of you know, what we have now with the two thirteen inch models. And then you have the thirteen inch air on the twelve inch MAC book. Maybe that's maybe that's where they're headed. I mean that would make a lot more sense that would start to differentiate the whole lineup again in the past. Right. Just like the the, ipads. You're pro models have bigger screens, and some fancier tech, and they're up at the up at the high end, and those small vessels like it is it starts whether it's the right story is an open question. But it starts to sound like an interesting parallel to what they've done with the ipad to differentiate them. Which is they've got the technology now to really slim down, those Bethel's, and and use that space for screen and that and that means that they make a choice. Do I wanna make the laptop smaller or do I wanna make the screen bigger? And for a pro given what they've talked about about the pro users on the MAC for a pro laptop. Why would you not on the big per laptop? Why would you not give those people more screen space like they value more screen space? So it kind of follows I think it's I think it's really interesting says this is something that. Nobody has talked about before to my knowledge. This is a new one and it opens because he says new design it really does open. The question of do. We get face ID. For once because you got to fit all those sensors into that into that smaller basil little hatch thing, but they but the the ipad has it, but the ipad is thicker than the screen parring Makpo, but they could or could they do it with a combination of different sensors and machine learning they could put that censor- they could shoot up from by the keyboard and shoot up into your face from there to look at you. I mean, I don't know there's stuff they could do with optics and like sensors in different places, I want to be open to that. But and then the big one, of course, is they could rethink the keyboard. The could probably would. I mean, I'm intrigued to see what a fully new design like so his my think if you put these if you put this laptop next to a fifteen inch current macbook pro would you would you see how much difference? Would you see that's what I've really one the because like I feel like laptop design has been is a solved thing. Now. Like, they look how they look, and I would be superintendent to see what a new design looks like like, what could they do the that? I'm not seeing a will it me out those new design mean, it has a big screen and we've re-engineered in the some ways to make X Y betta, right? Like a fully new design. Could mean we had to go back to the beginning to make the Keeble at work and keep it thin. I it could it could my guess is that. And this is just a guess is that it'll look more like the ipad pro which already United does. But more like that more more less rounded corners shell thinner. More more of those. Yeah. More those right angles and and a little less of the curves. But that's just a guess that again, I'm trying to place that ipad pro parallel. And I always feel like apple is always striving to have their whole product line kinda work in harmony, and it doesn't because that's very very very hard to do that. And like the iphone for example, he doesn't say in this the iphones are going to look different. And they're gonna look more like the I've had pro which is something people have commented on those had pros. Look great. What if the iphone looked like that? And, you know, close as no he says, that's not gonna happen. I almost go them. Roger again, it's fine to codename Roger. But I think they try right? I think they try to have harmony between their products, they want apple really wants apple products to feel of a kind which is a challenge when you have to completely different operating systems, which is why they're also pushing the operating systems closer together. So that if they do a hardware redesign here, it might only be internal stuff like keyboards and all of that. But I think they might take the opportunity to take whatever this design languages that. They use the ipad pro and also apply to this. The, you know, the normally I would say what what's their most recently released laptop. And what does that tell us about where they're going with with laptop design? But what it tells us is nothing because it's a retro design. It's literally just a MAC book air design updated. So it tells us nothing, so we're left we're left just guessing until they released one of these things, and then with this one we will read the tea leaves and say, oh, this is going to be what all the future, laptops, look like. But I think the chances are good here based on what close saying that that this. This is going to be that laptop where it's the model and all the rest of them will follow it for the next three years or whatever allow me to stop the speculation train. Jason, okay. All right. We put some fire in the engines full in the in the engine of the locomotive. The the speculation train is now rolling down the track Mike Intel are boy Intel Intel. Yeah, I think arm transition is going to happen. But boy, I think putting it at the pro lines. Surprise with. This is to say it, you know, just want to say because it's a thing. Right. Like, it is a thing that is it's flowing out there. We don't know what it's going to look like we don't know when it's going to happen. But you know, like, we would expect this product probably not replace the fifteen inch for a while party be too expensive, and alongside it. So okay. I never know. Okay. So here here I'll I'll throw something in. I'm going to be the I'm going to do the most wild speculation of all which is it's going to have an arm processor in it. Because the the T two is in most of the new max now all all the new maximum. What if it has an arm processor? That's more like an iphone ipad processor in addition to Intel and you have the ability to target software to it. Yes. Because we're entering marzipan land. And also these are used by developers in their Iowa's developers. So having run on the actual hardware is kind of an interesting idea. Maybe this is the machine that if you wanna do this type development. This is the one that you should be buying and I'll just throw on top of that at that point. If you're going to be because again wild speculation well speculation why would that new nice screen not be a touchscreen? All. Damn. I'm an Iowa developer. I am developing touch software. I want to run it on my screen. Maybe I wanna touch interact with it as interact. Jason one. If that new start a rumor, let's start a Luma right now. Let's do what if Jason that new design includes a hinge that allows you to flip the screen all the way round the back. Jay, some don't you lost me? Really aren't facile land increasingly bizarre, the train is so far off the rails. Now, Mike it's off the rails. It's in the canyon disclaim. These are official predictions. Go wild speculation. No. But I do I mean, I think if I'm we are only able to view what apple is doing from the outside. Obviously, they're the ones who know what their strategy ultimately as MAC OS, and I o s where they're taking all this. But if the speculation is right about like, more apps on the MAC and bringing them much closer together in terms of their interfaces, and in terms of their platform and touches such a big part of mobile and apple has not done touch on laptops, for reasons involving like MAC OS suitability to it. But now we're bringing in all these out from IRS. I keep asking the question like, I don't know whether that's a good idea or not. But I would imagine that if you're somebody inside apple talking about the future of the MAC book pro and your audience, a huge part of your audio. Is graphic designers and and developers that having touch for an apple pencil for marzipan apps or just in X code for doing app testing and previewing on your laptop is I mean, it's worth asking the question. If. And everybody freaks out when you talk about max people who who have really believed everything apple said about it's bad experiences on beyond. All those things fact is it's not a primary interaction method. It's not even on the laptops that have touchscreens. People don't spend all their time with his ambi- arms up touching the screen. But as an extra thing, it has applications, and so I think it's I just wanna put it out there because I think I would be surprised if apple never ads touch support to the displays on max. I would be surprised, but but they might not. Anyway, I think it's worth worth going down that road like what other IRS tech could they put into these things and alpha pencil support. Is one of them touch. Support is one of them arm processors that can actually run software of like run apps is one of them, and that would also create a transitional development machine, if the platform is going to arm, right? You expect some point some of these things are gonna happen. This could be the beginning of some of it. Right. That's that's the thinking. Thirty one eight six cakes tunnel display. I I saw this was like sure why not six six K. Actually, we've heard a lot from people and on other podcasts about how the five K that. Like we use. Our max apple has talked up is not really a thing in the broader computer industry, like five K displays are not really what people are doing. They are they are pushing further out into like eight AK displays and all that. So he's thirty one inch six K display. Is I could see that. Like why stop at five when you can have six why stop at twenty seven when you can have thirty one inches of display, especially if the Bengals are really small as opposed to like our max, which have huge vessels. Quite jump from. We don't make money is any more. It don't make them anymore, by the way, his one in six years the best monitor of all time. Yeah. Many LED backlight design. I don't know what. That means. I'm going to wait for you to tell me a bit more. Yeah. It's a different kind of LED back lighting this supposed to be better. That's that seems to be what it is. I Don outstanding picture quality. Of course. Of course. I'm sure we'll have all the colors will literally run the gamut. Anyway. Yeah. All the colors is what I think I think June WBZ, we get laptop on the monitor. And then they say his MAC pro looks like and it will be outlay of. That's why I ain't got. Yeah. Yeah. I think that's I think that's about right? That's that's going to be some one of get to draft that. But, but that's my gut feeling is that they will mention the MAC pro and do like they did with the I MAC pro they will unveil it the trash can they did they did it for both of them. Oh, yeah. Yeah. So you can see it. And then it'll be available later, but the monitor could come out, but the one of the reasons I think that it's just based upon the information that quote gave like he references the MAC pro doesn't say anything new about it. Which makes me think that the macbook pro the accent play closer to production because everybody knows that means he quo's sources come from the production line in the supplies. So maybe maybe these two products which had new products. Right. Nobody spoken about either of these two things. Things at all anywhere before now. So if close on the money, which a lot of the time, he is I would make make make you think that these things close. Maybe in the MAC pro is so yeah, we'll see about that. Last. Couple pots a new ceramic casing for the apple watch and e c to roll out to mall countries at pods too. Will have while Johnson case and upgraded bluetooth connectivity. So I guess maybe the blues will be better in some way and of eight needs to was judging case if the phone could charge them an believe in on not I don't believe it or not power to ship during the first half of twenty nineteen believe it or not. Indeed, I think it's going to happen. I think it sounds like. It's not the air power that they announced. I obviously, that's that's the truth of it is that this is almost certainly a completely different product that they've engineered because I had to go back to the drawing board my heard there was a story about how it's going to be like way thicker, the may show and and stuff like that. But it sounds like it's it's in the works and air power and the airports too. And I've heard I heard from somebody in in in a I'll say position close to retail that that the air pods are becoming kind of hard to come by in the in the product chain in the supply seen people talking about that that like they're out suckle frequently now. Yeah. Which makes I am skeptical that what this means is that they are they have ceased production of the old air pods and have begun making the new air pods. And it may be that the the way this works is. It just stock is reduced. So if you run out you can't get more from the factory. So instead, they kinda like take it out of wherever there is stock and they move it around. So it may not be imminent. But it feels like the air pods are coming sooner rather than later because they're having all of these issues with with keeping them in stock. That's not a run on air pods is that they may be preparing to turn it over and seller pods number two instead. So Roger Raja, thank you. She quo. Thank you. It's a lot to go on there. And I'm I'm really intrigued to think more and more people talk about this. But pro I like macrumors this is like I phones. Yeah. They'll be new ipads. Yeah. They'll be they'll be upgrades. Oh now. Let me tell you about all the new Maxon external devices and stuff like, okay, cool. That's cool. Yeah. I'm still most interested in learning. More about the MAC pro. I think that that is the most likely product to my future. You know? I I really like a MAC pro I could see Mike keep fifteen years and keep upgrading. That's that's what I'm I'm on. My twenty fifteen retina Rimac in the moment. No desire to change. It machine is brilliant. Like, I don't feel the requirement to get an a MAC pro doesn't. I don't need it. But I like the idea of a of a MAC that I could just just be up and leave for a long time. But the provides it I then change graphics cons and change ramble easily in the future. Right. So like, I buy a ten amac instead of a three MAC, you know, I've got my eye on that. But it might be more than I need properties. Mullan I need, but we won't know into it. Yeah. This year this year, this you. All right. Today's episode is also brought to you by Luna display friends over Luna display, a helping many of us can hopefully helping some of you can help some of you save money and improve your workflow talking about external displays, right? Everybody loves displays your ipad has a great display. Beautiful retinas. Play. Wouldn't it be lovely? If you could use it as an external display Fiene MAC will you can Luna display. 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Luna display dot com. Promo code upgrade for ten percent off. Thanks to Luna display for the support of the show. Every often the lunar display does make me have moments where I think I understand why apple. Is hesitant. You would need to make some changes to how MAC OS works for it to make sense as a touchscreen right now, if you really want to interact with all parts of it. I use my apple pencil. That's that's how I do it. That's true. Good point. I it's it's tricky away with with. I mean it works works. But the apple pencil makes it just like a customs perfect soiling. That's how using it. Yeah. Jason. Should we just mashed great? Yeah. Let's do it. Let's do it. This is a we didn't unfortunately events continue to occur. So we haven't had chance to do. Our mega ask upgrade episode, but we can clear out a bunch today. I think we must certainly can off us question comes from Frank today. Frank says immer gos- the rumors of a fifty percent commission and apple newsgroups from revenue. She spoke about earlier in the show what at the rumors will leak strategically managing expectations. Remember how relieved we'll fell in two thousand and ten when the first I Pat started a five hundred dollars instead of the room at one thousand what do you think about that? I think it's I think it somebody leaking that information strategically I I think this is negotiating negotiating in the press. I my guess is that there's somebody who so outraged by the fifty percent that apple wants to charge somebody probably for a newspaper that they leaked it because they want they want apple. To look bad. And it's possible that it's apple playing a game where they, you know, said a high number, and then they changed. But I I doubt it I think it's more likely that somebody who's kind of outraged in his hoping that Alkan will be this will put more pressure on apple from other publishers to not make a deal with them. So that they back down and they changed their their percent commission. But it does definitely feel like like I said one of the last time we talked about rumors like six months ago. Always ask yourself. Why it got leaked always ask yourself? Why did this information come out and for something like being she quo? It's people in his production. He's got sources in the production line. And he's reporting on the supply chain, and he saying which companies are building what and the people there are motivated probably by just possibly by money. And if not that then they are they like that. They're feeding analysts that information. But for something like this. I think it's very clearly motivated by something that. Caused this to leak and my at beyond just oh, I know I know a percentage number it feels more like it probably was tactical of this is ridiculous. Literally this to the press and apple get roasted agree. Yeah. Like apple. I feel probably do should he leaking from time to time. But this wouldn't be one of the things that they would care like the cats tell the public about this is not general public information. This is why would you leak to the public fifty percent number and then go back to the people you've been ago shitting with for the last six months and say, okay, we'll make it thirty percent. Now that it's leaked it doesn't make any sense. So yeah, that's right. The audience here isn't really the public because it's the people they're negotiating with. So I think it's far more likely that this is the negotiation sessions on the other side where they're saying. This is outrageous. I'm going to shame you in public. And then maybe he'll get the get the word from everybody that everybody thinks that you're this is ridiculous not saying it will work, but that. Feels more. What it is is somebody who's frustrated that apple is sticking to this number that is bananas. Like, it's just I can't I can't believe it. I mean, I kind of believe it 'cause it's apple, but it doesn't make any sense to me. And I wouldn't take that deal for if I was again, maybe there's some businesses that it makes sense for, but I have a hard time conceiving of what those would be so nice question comes from Eric. Eric says with the other category being renamed to wearables, home and excessive his what isn't new product in that area. You think could be profitable. Apple like with privacy stance. Eric would love to see home cameras security systems there any areas that you think ample is likely to move into when it comes to home technology. I would say right now. No apple seems to have decided they're just not gonna bother making smart home products. I think what I mean, what do they make they make? Home pot. They make the home pot, and they make a bet it, right? The sleep sensor which they bought and they still sell and I have one one of these days. I'm going to read about it. It, but it's a weird thing. And and like why is that product there? And I think it's to feed home kit data, and because they they wanted it. But my bigger overarching question here is I'm a little bit mystified. Why apple has decided they're just not gonna bother competing and they're going to let Google I mean, you look at the euro acquisition by Amazon, you're letting other tech giants build infrastructure in smart home tech. And you just don't you? Just don't care like you got out of the wifi. They're in the with the home pod. And that's about it it one level. It allows them to say we just want everybody us home kit, and then it'll all work, and I'll be great. But on another level. I think you're letting your competitors by out everything, and you're not you're not gonna choose to compete and when Emma's on owns Eero. I do have that moment where I think if I were at apple I would be like, wait everything that happens on a network is going to be seen by our competitors, potentially. Like, why would we not want to why do we stop making airport? Why did we not make our own mesh networking where we guarantee that? Your data is secure we live in an era where competitors are the people who are using WI fi are often using it from either their cable company or they're using it from like, Google or Amazon. Now, why would we not wanna do it? But they obviously made a decision they can reverse themselves. They've done it in the past to just save. Now, we're not gonna we're not gonna bother unless it can be an enormous hit or isn't acce-. Essary to one of our enormous hits. We're just gonna walk away. It's weird. It's weird. I don't I don't think I agree with that approach. I feel like it would be more apple like for them to make these products. But at the same time, I'm really sensitive that it really seems like apple can't even reliably update and develop the products that it it has that the way that company works their attention is has to be focused on a very small number of things. And maybe somebody inside apple said, you know, what we could we could build wifi routers, or smart thermostat or whatever. But it's going to be super like distraction for us, and we don't need that kind of distraction. I just for a company their size with the money. They've got I'm a little prize that they just haven't built a smart, home division, and put everything inside of it and let let their speakers and thermostat and WI fi and all sorts of other stuff like that go in there and let them compete. Feet. But but it is possible that they've just decided philosophically they'd rather get everybody to use home kit, and then you can use anybody's stuff with apple stuff. The the wifi is the one that gets me though, that because that's like Eero being bought really made me think. Apple maybe you should have not punted on on wifi after all because there's a market, right? Some people in the products, and and that and your competitors are among the leading manufacturers of that stuff. It was reported over the weekend by CNBC. The apple hide guy named Sam Jadalla who used to look Mark soft. Then started a company auto which ended up not working out. It was like a small look and CNBC's reporting that dollar is gonna be revamping the small business, whatever that means could be could be apple branded products could be different stuff home kit. We don't know, but they did hire somebody who has experienced making small hot, hotly. Interesting interesting. If I I I don't know the details of all of that business and their and their culture on the inside. But I will say it feels like a missed opportunity for apple not to plan. Some of these smart home. Spaces and not to have maybe bought up some of these smart home companies that are now going to be guided by their competitors in among giant tech companies. Our NAS 'cause I have a mid twenty eleven I'm Eric and considering you met many, my understanding is that the adapters can use target display mode to display the mini to the MAC is this a viable long-term solution. Should I by anyone to? I I mean, it depends on your feelings about retina is what it comes down to to me. Which is if you've got an imac that supports target display. It's not a retina, amac, which means you've got an imac running and target display mode. With new Mak mini that's capable of retina and the can't display retina. And so you're going to get, you know, a nice picture, but it's going to be a low resolution picture. I don't consider that a long term solution. But maybe you don't care. I would buy new monitor because at this point. I don't wanna use a MAC without a Renan's play. But, but if you want to save money and don't care about retina than it's viable. I think I have not used an eye MacIntosh display mode for any length of time at all. So I can't say just how annoying it would be over time to have to be putting it in target display mode and all of that because it is a computer and you have to put it in target display mode. But so I would say in the end, I I'm skeptical of its ability to be a long term solution. It's a solution. But because of the fiddly nature of it being an I MAC in target mode and not retina, I wouldn't consider personally along solution. Stevens. Do you think that Apple's new subscription news of she'll be limited to existing companies countries, currently, the USA, UK Australia, and I think Canada Canada's even just just about two or do you think is going to roll out more broadly than that apple news is so slow to roll out that I think it's going to be limited. I think I think it'll be limited. It may be even USA only at launch. I know they're going into Canada. Finally, they announced they're going into Canada. And the way there was that they wanted to go into Canada multi-lingual. So that they'd have French and English versions. Every you go to Europe. You gotta make a deal with European publishers. You gotta Asia you gotta make a deal with Asian publishers. I think this is more likely to make it worse rather than better. Yeah. Yeah. So my my gut feeling is that it's probably a US only rollout, maybe US and UK. But like they're they're still struggling to negotiate with the US and the one the done without yet. Then they'll have to go to the UK and the Goshi it they're when they're done with that they'll have to go to Germany and negotiate their like, that's what they're going to have to do. And that's that's a lot. That's a lot. I don't envy them because they have to make a deal with every single, you know, they have to approach every single publisher and talk to them one on one and have those arguments about fifty percent. Are you crazy? And like every time I I don't wanna be that person. I feel for that person who has to get yelled at about what apple terms are. So I think it's going to be a slow roll out. And I think like I said earlier, I think it's also going to be something where the product is not quite fully formed launch. And that they continue to tweet. It. They may get there with it. But I think I'm really skeptical that it is not going to be kind of broken when it launches. And finally, Jeff all six do you think they is or could be viable market for a second home pod device? Different size, different focus, kind of so much question is kind of in to fall to you Jason one. Do you think they could be into if they wasn't your mind? What does that look like, well, I I've been meaning to write this for a while. And I'm far from the first person to have this idea. But I think just a Sonus has done this. I think apple should make a sound bar. I think apple should make a Syrian abled sound bar. I'll go further and say, I think apple should make a cereal bar. That's also an apple TV and you plug it into your TV, and it makes nice sound and gives you surrounded sort of sound and will also plug into your TV and let you have stuff on your TV menu. And do all the things that Napa Levy does. And it'll look good and it'll sound good. And and it'll do it'll do Siri whether the TV's on or not and play music that sounds good. Like that. That's the one that. I keep thinking of is an opportunity for apple to get people. Why attach an apple TV to your TV? Well, if it comes with if it's a sound bar. That's also an apple TV, then you're getting good sound on your HDTV. Plus you pick up all the apple stuff. And I feel like there's a product there that maybe would be more give people more reason to buy. An apple TV and with the home pod tack. It could also be functional all the time. You can talk to it. You don't need to even hold up, the the Siri remote and talk into it. You can just talk and the speaker will hear you and control your TV or play music or do whatever. So that's kinda my pitch for the home pod. I mean, I think the homepage should be cheaper like bottom line. I think the home I think home pots, not bad. I think the problem with a home pod. And I feel like as I look at my ipod. Hi fi. That's right here. I think it's the same story which is people say like, oh, well, the ipod. Hi fi. That was really bad product wasn't a bad product. It was a misguided product. That was overpriced and kind of oversold for what it was. But it's a perfectly fine speaker, the home pods poem is good and two of them is kind of great. But the the prices just completely out of wack so with the rest of the market, and and so, you know, barring a sound bar. I would say I just think that the home pot should be cheaper like and that they should sell it. And they. I should really aggressively sell it in a bundle make the bundle of two of them cheaper. Because everybody, I know who's gotten to home pods has said, oh, yeah. It's so much better. Now like in a stereo pair on different sides of a room, and it fills the room in like it goes from being a curiosity to being like the go-to music player in the house, but that's three fifty times to no it's too expensive. So my feeling is like the the products. Okay. They put they hang a screen on it or something. But at that point, it's basically like an ipad attached to a speaker. I'm not sure there's. I don't know. Sure. That's great. So my my feeling is price and and a sound bar. What about you? I never thought of sound ball. I think that's really cool. I would like that law. My my thinking was saying that you were that like they should just make the current one. Maybe a bit more affordable before they worry about building a second one. But that sound bar. I d of integrated apple TV is a genuine product right that could exist without them needing to touch. The current one is got enough new cool about it. I like that. Jason. I would like that. I find it frustrating. I have to remember to change my audio outputs to the home pod for my apple TV because I have the two we have them kind of in a position that it's nice right too. Like around the television where you have money aside of sofa. So it's perfect for us for watching TV through the apple TV, but it never seems to like walk to it. Like it's have to keep remembering to to turn to change the audio output. And if it was a device like a sound bar is more in tune to actually doing what it's supposed to do. And that's where the sounds going to naturally come from with the apple TV's Bill into it too. I would like that product. What? Sound button? A terrible name. Home pod TV. They go found. Thanks so much to insta- bug fresh books and lunar display support of this week's episode. You can find Jason online at the incomparable dot com and six college dot com. He's also at j Snell on Twitter and Instagram. I am at I'm Mike. I m y que e you could find the show many shows reload FM slash shows, tons of great content there for you to feast Yuri is on. That's not a phrase this. Yeah. Cool air feast faced if you'd like to send in questions for the show. Hashtag snow talk for something fun to open with. If you have any questions you'd like to hear us on at the end of the show. Hashtag ask upgrade we can into some good detail about those. Thank you so much listening to episode two hundred thirty three of up grade, and we'll be back next week until then segues snow good-bye everybody could by Mike early. Jason snow bump bump up. John. Didn't do any research Mark going wrong. Wrong show. 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How to Not Go Nuts

WTF - Stories & Advice

54:37 min | 10 months ago

How to Not Go Nuts

"Welcome to the BTF stories and advice sign Kerley Crenshaw an DOT GOV and. We're fucking lockdown scare. We're fucking lockdown mind bullshit. You may be able to tell. We are a little bit frustrated with our current circumstances. We've been locked down for five days now. Probably not even get what we have today warning which was kind of like Sammy. Lock down on. This is the fourth day of And you know it's not normal to get frustrated when you're liberties bodies are restricted. Yeah and I. I agree that we need to do social distance saying that we need to put some systems in place but they gone too far. They have taken away my online shopping. Oh no no I am not fucking kidding you. I am ruble right now. I tried to order something Amazon in. They're not delivering to New Zealand. Not Sad I I can feel free there. I'm kind of lucky because I can still shock on my video game systems and buy new games download because if I couldn't shop I don't know what I would I feel for you. Oh I'm so okay. That's fine maybe I don't need to buy whatever is high by off Amazon. Anything that POPs in my head basically but I mean you just you cannot order anything online in New Zealand. If it's not boot or if you're not an essential business than essential businesses anyone to do with food me all restaurants though all restaurants all takeaways cafes way you can't go through the drive thru in anything. I mean not that that's the end of the world. But baseball shops are closed bakeries. Chirs health food stores all closed. Yeah you can't I mean it's just it's insanity. My daughter's blacktop. Screen stopped working yesterday. And I'm like Oh yeah. We'll just order any laptop screen. Oh no you can't so then I'm like okay. Well maybe I can have it. Repaired are UNICENTRAL business. Now I think I think I am an essential business being a mental health. Don't you think so? I think so as well. I mean people come to us that are often in a decline in their mental health. And they go away in an upward spiral now. We know where that decline can lead to. If people I get worse and worse more depressed more anxious to drug addiction to suicide to breaking up relationships all sorts of bad things so we're essential for the health of the people. I very not considered that. Of course now I think we can just work online can still. We're not stopping you from seeing patients online but if my computer breaks if my phone breaks or anything like that which is how on contacting dealing with clients now. I cannot buy replacements and it's all very well to say. Oh you can do it online. But my last client to cancel said. Look there's other people in my highest night twenty four seven on. They're going to hear me. I don't want them to be in my therapy session. So that makes perfect sense. I understand that. So we're GONNA wait till the lockdowns finish to see each other. Yeah I had quite a few clients cancel as well because they they really enjoy the personal one that experience but insane that I have seen clients online for years for like ten years. I've unseen people from around the world in the online session. So and you do the same. Don't you know what I really like about working online and therapists that people get to be in their own home and sometimes little bit scared of hypnosis because they don't know what it is once way on a chat and they use it they love it but if people can be a little apprehensive sometimes so being in their own home? There's a measure of safety that they feel and also you don't have to dress up to go to work you know you can just wear your. I wear Polo shirt. That's Pharma's I get underneath. I could just be wearing John Bottoms and nobody would note. Yeah I'm just GonNa Start Stalling like the front of my hair and yeah obviously I wear makeup but yeah I mean it's it's a bit more relaxed but if you listening to this are struggling and you need emotional support if you need someone to help you see the light at the end of the tunnel or really help you release stress for May also do a lot of work with people were planning for the business in making changes and unfortunately at this point we have to change or die right like the APP. We cannot go the old parent on the framework. That we've all been kind of breaking from at least for a while. So if you need support with any of those things that feel free to contact me feel free to contact errol are are linked on how to contact us is in the in the shouts by. We're here to support you. I'm also going to be downloading. I'M AGITATED TO UPLOAD A couple of guided meditations for you. Listen to if you have any you ought to upload as well Daryl we can. We can do that yeah. I've got some that I can give linked to that. I've created one that I did. This week was to help you cope with `isolation so yet check. Check that meditation. I can I add this well. I'm also trained tablist. So I've trained in high to make herbal medicine for people that maybe don't have access to herbs because a health shops are closed are just. They can't afford to buy her then contact me and I can help teach beginning session. I can take you through how to make Herbs Home Remedies with what you've got in your kitchen your garden or your local area. That's good yeah. I don't do hypnosis with everyone. Some people I do coaching some people. I do strategizing their business. Those all different ways. We can help you. But that's enough. I just wanted to let people know that that is an option for you need at war. There's there's lots of other online systems of programs now. Getting counseling getting the help you need but I think for now. It's really important to look after your mental health. So we're going to give you some tips on how to get out of get through this because I'm only on day four and I'm already starting to lose my fucking mind but you know what I've after carling. We had a chat earlier after just having a bit of a bitch just getting off the chest I feel so much better. I think talking about something naming it. It's so helpful. Yeah and that I mean. That's a technique that we actually teach on our courses. We teach Therapy together is the name it to tame exercise and that is when you name whatever you say allow you don't have to say it out loud. You can shout it in your mind if you're going to be psychologically damaging to shout it the people you're around which is a possibility but if you label what you're feeling your brain actually calms down and it helps shift those emotions so the more you know what you what. You resist persists yes exactly. Yeah yeah emotions are they need to move like e motion. It needs to move through if you just stop it down grow. A tumor are affects your immune system by not dealing with it. You're gonNA feel a lot worse. I think that would be my my number one piece of advice. I think you're right that Carolina and it's something that you can also use with People Ryan budget so if you want to keep a healthy relationship on whoever you're locked on weds than somebody's angry name it looks like you're angry right if they're not they're going to correct you and if they are feel validated while yes. I am and it seems I cure. I'm bored or you're anxious. Whatever it is named the emotion and either it helps you connect with the person because it validates their feeling arc gives them the opportunity to correct. And say no actually. This is what I'm feeling. It's it's a coup technique. Name it to tame it in you or with other people. Yeah Yeah I m people like labels if he can put labels on how? They're feeling if they seem. You've seen frustrated. You seem angry. You seem sad and they can say yeah exactly as you said and it just it just helps shifted in it. It brings things up to awareness. Because I think we're all just trying to get through this like insane time in our society and world and we need all the support we can. I mean I used to when I was going through my divorce. I got a hollow pillows and baseball bat and I would go into my closet with a smile pillows. I would beat the living shit out of closed of agreement every bad label and name that I could think of and I feel so much better afterwards. Nice Nice I mean. I've never done that but I do. Use My words So I'll tell people haven't feeling and just get there and then stun are used music by play Song. That has the mid. But here's the key. It said not to stay in that place like you said who motion is in motion so for me. I might not listen. I agree on follow it up with a happy song or at an uplifting song and kind of try and make a playlist to transition mood will ever Winnie What you do if you're stuck in an emotion that's when you need criminal help. Yeah if you can't seem to shift it but I think like for me. I'm looking at this time as a time that I am going to take my business into another level or a direction that I've been meaning to really focus on for a long time really wanted to make online courses in products. That will do little. Hypnosis reportings Weight loss products. But they're they're not like there's not video and there's audio and there's books in you know it's I have wanted to do this very long time and now I'm like right. I'm going to focus all my effort into creating these new products. This week. I've been doing it quit. Smoking products videos guide medication recordings. I actually have a book called how to quit without feeling like shit or yes smoking. You're on Amazon. But I think for me I I could stay home. Get all depressed that some of my clients are canceling bill angry. That I can't leave the house online shop or I can use this time to do something amazing to take on business in the right direction and catch up on things. I've been meaning to catch up on for a long time high. Do you use the time that you've got. It's like it could be gift. I'm also loving it ever going to be honest. I mean I don't like the it's I I don't like there's this flu going around killing people or whatever but what I do like is being home and been able to catch up and spend quality time with family and loved planting hair ABS in vegetables and getting right back into the garden is so therapeutic. Can I'M GONNA love watching all these plans scoring inside my house a Into the empty beer bottles of which there are more than usual this week for adults in this highs on it's been good to to get a dozen beer bottles and pit all different kinds and watch the rich grow through the glass over the decades and then know that they're going to be planting and I'm going to have lots of beautiful fresh food growing later idea so with the cuttings. Are you doing like a root hormone to get them to do that or do you just literally putting them in now? I never use chemicals when I garden or any supplements I just literally stick them in water. stick it in the grinded. Ships grows like it just grows lead at the only thing. That hinders me is sex. And so that's something I'll have to look at later when the plants are getting bigger but you can also companion plant to help stop insects so for example. They put roses next to the grapevines to stop. Apparently stops. Aphids are whenever east grapes so I went and GonNa cutting off a rose and I'm going to be putting that next to the grapes. Good idea yeah. What's to other tips? Caroline I like the word tip by the way they happen to like that word. Would you? You've got just the tip for me back. Here's another just the tip take some zinc ask for you. If you want to focus on your health immunity I think that zinc is one of the best things that you can take sank definitely one hundred percent on another nutrient Correlates strongly with mortality and risk factors of the flu is indeed and what I mean by. That is the more vitamin D. You've got in your body when you get the flu more likely you are to have a good time the less you have the more likely you are a bad time. I'm not saying secure. It isn't but we know that highlight those of vitamin D in The body. It really helpful and you can get that from the sun if the sun strong enough you're in the right latitudes are from your Diet Research Goto nutritionist. But in a nutshell. That's why we used to take ver- oil in the UK in the winter because vitamin D in it. Yeah that's yeah very good tip and vitamin C. You're a big advocate for vitamin say. I Love Vitamin C. It's my secret weapon on ever since I discovered how to use it in high doses safely. I'd never needed unto buttocks again. I used to take antibiotics three times. A year for bronchitis tonsillitis you name. It and vitamin C has saved me from that every single time on some big Big Fund. I take the spirit currency and I take in very high doses if I get ill and if I don't have that then I use sodium at scorebig form which the forms that I recommend but you need guidance. If you're going to be taking more than the recommended dose from somebody who's trained the wondering with Leiderman. See THAT I. I always warn people to be careful with is if you take vitamin C as a woman if you take vitamin C. Just on its own without any bioflavonoids you can actually lower your progesterone levels so if you take mega doses of vitamin C without any bioflavonoids when you're pregnant. So she early pregnancy. This can drop your pedestrian levels so much that actually induce miscarriage. If you are taking vitamin C make sure you takes bioflavonoids if you're a woman in you're pregnant or if you have kind of hormonal issues you're having heavy bleeding or anything like that definitely want to make sure this bioflavonoids ing to keep your pedestrian. Lowe's up there. Yeah I'M GONNA think of entities in ill health or they're pregnant then they really need to take professional advice. Before taking any kind of hair supplement mean herbs in pregnancy generals is no for most tabs and same goes for certain foods and certain nutrients so yet. Good Advice Caroline. Yes and that's one thing that's been see when else all of life very very good to boost your immunity. I Love I love the bitter taste. A lot is the new. It's my digestion. I love her. Cleans my liver in its field on. T. Hawks and mostly I love how strong anti viral. So I'm go to olive trees on either side of my house so I'm GonNa be harassing some leads and and making take check dam. Yeah and I think the most important thing to focus on is the power of your mind telling yourself that you're in perfect health telling yourself that you're immune system. Confide on anything that comes across that it's going to kill any virus that goes into it. System instantly will make a huge difference with your immunity with your stress levels. Because we'll just add you. Tell Yourself I get sick all the time or get this. And it's going to be really bad than your subconscious minds than to try to make that true under. The factually done studies that backup what you're saying. Caroline have we recommended. Dr Joe Disbands before on this podcast even if we have to do it again. He's GonNa Book. You are the placebo. And he's a guy that his back shattered by being run over by a car and he managed to get up and walk within six weeks and within twelve weeks was back at work using the placebo effect. The power of his own mind to heal himself and he goes in this book. Helix at the evidence that the way that you think changes your health. I've come sing unique to be positive uncomfortable that you can beat whatever comes your way and and be relax about. You're much more likely to survive. Whatever comes your way yet. That's I mean. I had that terrible car accident. I'm sure talked about this on that on the podcast. head-on collision with a truck. Towing a boat broke everything and they told me that I would probably never walk. Normally that I was going to have all kinds of issues terrible brain injury and I visualized myself getting better the whole time. I didn't even really know about. I don't ever been hypnotized at that point but I had remembered studying this doctorate university studying in some psych class. Milton Erickson who brought medical hypnotherapy mainstream in. He talked about how he had. He lives on polio. So I think yeah if you are sick or your Kobe anything. We have other health issues. Really visualize yourself in perfect health. You can't go out so picture that picture. Your body having the antibodies to this crowd of. Irs and that no matter what you're going to be okay and if you are sick of the moment just imagine yourself back in perfect health. Imagine whatever needs to heal in your body. You don't have to see it perfectly but it'll make a huge impact. They have cases of people who've died of cancer they were told they had cancer that they had three months to lay. They pass away. They do an autopsy and they never had cancer. It was a misdiagnosis. I've read that too that absolutely crazy and likewise people that are told that they are well can recover. Yeah it's going to be fine. It said it's quite fascinating. Part of the mind yeah. So I'm we're experts in that dude say so myself we are? We we studied. We teach we know it on. Trust us when we tell you your mindset is going to help you. It's really is going to help your house another thing. I think we should give some advice on is how to make sure your relationship with who you are living with who you are in violation with if you are how to kind of make those relationships run more smoothly so. I think that's something because I think there is. I'm just planning getting tons of couples that I need to help sort out at the end of this. We're probably looking at here. Well it's it's one that actually hits home Situation where I've been dating this guy for nine months and we're at that point where we can talking about moving in together but then we're very quickly given out either moving together now or don't see each other for at least a month. Maybe six weeks maybe two months maybe more so here. We are living together back. And that's something that we have to manage living together Quite ready not being able to go out and see our friends not being able to be apart for at least a month for nine. We're in great but I can imagine other people that have issues pre existing in the relationship or they're even earlier on in their relationship. Don't have the communication skills that we've got. We're really going to struggle absolutely. Yeah I mean the better chance of surviving cancer than making a relationship last till death do you part. I mean it's just not so but one thing all come to talk to people about it and I teach my clients with relationship issues Dr John. Goldman's work UNIBOND versus. Yeah we we teach us so he was a psychologist but formerly a mathematician and when he got into counseling and psychology starting with couples. He found that most of the people. But like most of the therapies. They just based on theory that people going well. This might work in. That might were get. I'll just try these techniques and we'll just see and he thought well. Why am I actually study? What works? And what doesn't and he would hook you. Bring people to a lab and he took him up to quit meant and he would just watch them interact and he asks them lots of questions about how they interact and he now can watch a couple of five minutes and predict with ninety four percent accuracy. Whether or not they're going to get divorced. These are the things he says that you should look out for him. Because in the four of 'em four horsemen of the apocalypse. Get your pens. I I'll put a Lincoln to an article that I've written about. This can read a bit more to the things to look for our number one harsh startup with first sign that a divorce. Her relationship breakdown free on the way is how the conversation begins because ninety six for ten percent of the time the way a discussion starts predicts how if you began a discussion with like harsh. Start acting. Accusatory or negative contemptuous. It's the conversations fail you really want to focus on being relaxed being calm inclined when you start your conversation not that is wrong with you. That's not an where the next one you really WANNA look out for is criticism. Sa- criticism is active finding faults or like judging someone harshly and there's always there's a difference between criticism and complaints because we're always gonNA have complaints about ours but when you start criticizing your partner saying doing is wrong really starts at like chip away. Their self esteem makes them feel a tax. And then they're gonNA be paid defensive. They're going to be contemptuous now in contempt. Content is the next one to really look out for so that is a feeling. Contempt is appealing Disdain or scorn you insult name-calling but even like body language intelligible way Sykes near a woman you're is making faces they say it's the worst of all the different things to look out for because it conveys discuss to the other person someone displays discuss to you. It's really gonNA cause the conflict to escalate. That's another one to really look out for. Do you have any tips about that? Know I'm talking. No no this is good. I mean I've I've gone through this before. I think of maybe talked about him in school. The and they're all basic ways that humans should interact any way. If if you WANNA put that simply be kind. Just be kind enough. People aren't kind men. Things aren't going to work for for tips for from my point of view. I think. Find a way to create space. Even if you're sharing a one bedroom apartment find ways to be able to be alone when you need to be alone for stat. Looks like we've converted. The garage into another work can be done in their video. Games can be played in their hell base. There's a bed in their to somebody can sleep there. So find ways to create space Have routine so thinking about working from home and you'd never get away from the office and you're also indoors for however many weeks plan your days like I'm Lucky. Very very lucky to live with my sister and her husband. Each of us is getting a date night once a week on one night me and my partner will cook and provide a restaurant experience for my sister and her husband. They're going to do that in return later on this. It's GonNa be fun like seeing how awesome we can make it. But maybe you're living with just one person You're worried about that. You could still take turns having a date night. Grit get creatives. What could you do for your partner friend of mine? Great nutritionist Cheryl Takayama. She had a massage night for family. So come to mum's massage. Parlour impropriety gets a massage done. And then the next day it was going get your hair styled at the daughter's hair salon so you can plan your days in pioneer weeks so that there's variety is even if you think. I don't need to do that. Trust me you'll get bored of the same routine. Have you ever seen somebody with a broken leg? That's six weeks off work. Say Oh I'm loving this time I can't wait. I wish I could stay off work. No they all want to go back working in holiday programs which I did in two thousand nine I think for school children age five to twelve. I know that by the end of the school holidays. Those kids were going insane especially the ones that were indoors with us the whole time so we had to create variety. Variety made all the difference and staying sock away from food coloring. Yeah that's a good point. That's a really good idea with like doing restaurant experience and massage and I think that the we just need to turn off the TV and start interacting or games. But you're right giving people space and I think it's important to figure out how your partner if you're with a partner reacts to complex so if there's someone who wants to sort it out right away it's it's not giving them the cold shoulder the whole time but then if you're a person that needs space it's being really clear about okay. I need to space. Please don't talk to me for like an hour two hours and just be open about what you need because I know I want sort out right away. I don't like being pistone for ages. You really have to mess with me for me to be pissed off overnight but other people really need like an hour to cool off and they can't talk about it at that time. Now that's exactly right and the thing is if you are single on your own while you're doing with us I would still get your ass on tinder. There is no reason why you can't be chatting to people doing zoom or facetime with people like you still need interaction. I think we're all hardwired for that so I think finding talk to friends you have talked to for years. Talk to family members like for me in talking to my family more than I have like ten years. It's insane. Yeah it's been great for me too. I'm connecting with all my family overseas grandparents and so on. Uk brother in Spain brother Stralia were playing scrabble. Together online and chatting having a laugh at it's been real nice actually reconnect with some people like reach out to people and I think that hopefully this is all going to be over soon. Staying calm but finding ways connecting and take this time to really do something they'd been meaning to do for a long time some creative like if you always want to write a book or a story or paint or do something along those lines. Now's the time to do it so many that. I know that. Want to study something but they don't have time like now. Is that time going? Get an online diploma in something. Anything for me. I've I've got a Spanish textbook. I'm going to brush up on my Spanish and make it even better. It said what you always wanted to land do it. Now is the perfect time exactly so I mean you look at people like Nelson Mandela. He was in prison for twenty seven years. He became the leader of the prison. They called it like the learning camp for future. I don't know leaders or something. His prison way he would teach me so revered but he didn't spent something like six years in solitary confinement. Why now crazy. It's crazy but he wrote and he by the end the actual the the prime minister or the president to South Africa was like going to consulting with asking him questions about this. And that while you still in prison so I think just because you don't have control of your circumstances right now that you re you're basically freedom has been taken away but make something amazing out of this time you hand do it. And it's it's it you won't regret it was if you just watch net flicks for an a game for this next month or however long it's going to bay. Yeah it's it's it's time wasted in sometimes for some people. That's what they need. They actually need to do nothing. They've been doing too much for too long. I know a few people. I'm quite happy. Have the opportunity to rest. They're forced to stop. Yeah I think for me. It's probably a good thing because I've been such a workaholic for so long but of course now me myself goal of saving this this. But that's what makes me feel God for me. I need to have meaning and purpose. Anita meaning purpose and be achieving goals for me to feel got my no. I shouldn't like hang that on it but not everyone's like me but some people actually need to have some time away against it's all individual but just now this isn't going to be the end of the world it is we are. GonNa get through. This things will get better hopefully with Lockdowns and controls in place. It's all going to be the have disappear as quickly as it as it started. Did you hear about Sylvia Browne Psychic Prediction? That she might know. Tell me she is a famous. I I've even went and saw her speak probably like as a teenager in. Marin County California should this great smokers voice. She used to be like on all these talk shows. Bet One of her books and I think it was like addictions for the end of the world or something she talked about in two thousand and twenty that this weird respiratory virus was gonna go across the road in fact these people but that it was going to and it would cause pneumonia. That was very hard to treat. But it was gonNA disappear as quickly as it start that it would have a flash in the PAN and then it would go away and then she said. It has another resurgence in like ten years from now but it would go away. Get to know. My Mom told me that last night she must have been reading the same thing. Yeah she was very good. Sylvia Brown I mean who knows but I don't know I'm GonNa take that on board that. Yeah it's all going to be over soon. We're going to be really productive. You're GONNA find out. How strongly really are I? Guess it's a chance to reevaluate. What kind of society we one to be living in. I've strong we really are kind. We can be those that are losing their jobs. Are there lights onto our health? Workers mean for me. One thing that I'm thinking about this. We live luckily in the Western world. Why don't we have the ability to cope with this? And could we put money into being able to cope better with breaks in the future by properly funding? Our Health Service. But I guess that's political should stay away from that while I think there's going to be especially in this state that doesn't have universal free healthcare for everyone that I think people are really gonna see the light of how important this is and how there's GonNa be options for everyone to have health care. I mean within US those going along people who are going to go bankrupt from getting treatment. They have to be on life support. You know how much that costs today in the letter they gonNA do. I don't believe should die from flu because they can't afford it to to be alive. Yeah they get enough respirators but yeah. There's what are things that you do too thin mucus. That isn't there. Will you know the cystic talk about some herbs? Actually but before. A suspect fibrosis is a disease that took a friend of mine's life at basically. There's an overproduction of mucus in the lungs and the heart to clear that me. Kosai which is quite similar to some of the effects time hearing about the Cobra virus and one New Zealand guy figured I that he was really healthy even though he Process and made the connection. It's because he was a surfer and the salt water was dissolving mucus. And so he invented an inhaler a saltwater inhaler as a treatment for cystic fibrosis now. I don't know how much that was picked up. Or if it's used but basically steaming relations being saved to burn yourself is number one because a sting is going to help dissolve But there's some Hamm's you can take like L. campaign whore Hind Mullane Than Tun tain report. Then you could also do mint nettle lemon balm to support the lungs. If I have a cough my go-to is to get some garlic onion chop it up in a jar hungover. It a pit blueberries in two days nice and then the next day strain it and eat dining in in a glass of hot water keeping yourself really hydrated by drinking lots of water. Hot Water is best. Means that you're not going to dry out because the role of mucus is is not there to make you suffer. It's there to grab the pathogens and carry them out your body. Encapsulates them so the pathogens? Don't get into your body. So Mucus is there to help you. Don't think of it as the enemy but help it to get stop. Smoking of yours smoker yet. Because it that's not gonNA give your lungs good time. It burns a little village. The little here like things that moving mucus up and I saw a good idea to stop smoking if you can if this is about time for you to stop than look at other ways to assure immune system are starting to reduce. Yeah I mean that's that's what I'm doing. This week is turning Mike Quit smoking book into Full Long. A product like having a session with may but yet one supplement. I really recommend that is and this is for bathing. As well as vaping is just as bad and they're finding they're getting lots oil and kind of clogging in into the lungs as well is nice which is vitamin B. Three and yeah it locks into nicotine receptors in your brains. It's very very good for smoking. Spirited for cravings the other thing that's really interesting so she was smoking. Cigarettes is in pre cigarette has a half a teaspoon of sugar. I didn't know that so. Yeah so when you smell. You're basically rebasing or smoking. It like it's crack and so yes. This triggers your body into releasing their kind of glucose into your bloodstream. And so when you stop or you reduce accepted. There's a lot of secret. Smokers out there who suddenly not able to smoke around the stress but a really good thing to do is to take. Something Home Chromium. Gt APP. And that is it's chromium public. Lineage you can take chrome Konate as well but chromium is a very good blood. Sugar balancer system mineral. That's been the reason. Why the T T F? It's actually been mixed with vitamin B. Three to make it more effective but it really stabilizing blood sugar because when you stop. Let's see you smoked a pack a day. You are smoking ten teaspoons of sugar. That's like a can of coke and so your blood sugar's going to go all over the place and that's why people just want to eat the whole time afterwards. I don't know what about invade us do you now if it has sugar in that as well no but it has sam propylene glycol and Vegetable Glycerine. Glycerin. It's very sweet so I'm not sure. What effect has on the on the blood sugar levels have concern itself and I can imagine it would would have an effect the thing about vaping. It's I used to vape is that I would vape a lot more than I would smoke. Cigarettes they didn't clog me up our didn't make me feel sick like too many cigarettes would so I was able to almost constantly and my number one for coming vaping is never let yourself be hungry because your blood sugar levels are going to be doing crazy things and when you're not letting yourself be hungry. It's bite eating healthy foods. 'cause IF YOU'RE GONNA eat chocolate you're gonNA cause more blood sugar spikes so for me. It was about right healthy diet stocks night. And you're going to really thank yourself after just a couple of days when she shift on your blood sugars start to balance on their own that you eat healthy on that you stopped. Yeah so another thing you can do with that is have protein. Prochaine is really GONNA help it. Nicotine itself also triggers this. Your Body Releasing Glucose no matter. What if you're bathing smoking cigarettes? You're gonNA like really impair your body's ability to regulate your insulin in this crate. Insulin resistance that gives you high blood sugars. I mean especially if you've got. Diabetes is terrible but smokers really sick have significantly increased risk of diabetes. It's interesting on people think that. Oh I'll smoke cannot lose weight but actually over time the opposite is true. It might be temporary in the beginning but overtime if you lose your ability to regulate sugar for example that can lead to a game and what they find is that smokers gained weight run the middle and unhealthy areas like the stomach for men. And that's certainly something that I witnessed myself and went away when it quit and people are worried about quitting because they think they're gonNA eat too much and put on weight will generate. You might for five days that you don't have to but you might and if you do that's not gonNA kill you. Once the cravings go away in eat normally you're gonNA be slimmer and healthier in the long run so we're not here to be the the fun police or to preach but help his available now is a good time to to think about the rest of your life to be. You've got time to write down some goals and into plan how you're GONNA execute them to visualize success in to make them happen. So take that gift among with it. Yeah and if you need support with quitting vaping or smoking daryl and I both offer services with that but your lungs are so important especially with this horrible virus going around as you WanNa do whatever you can to protect it. And they really. They repair very quickly. Now is the time stop. You can do it. We are to ex smokers. Daryl's next Magri Baber so we get. It is to love smoking. It was like my favorite thing to do. People would say to me second hand. Smoke kills and I'd be like not fast enough. It hot is really. Who's part of who I was but I feel so much better being a non-smoker Mike it's just. It's it's denied. I just couldn't even imagine being what now especially with what's going around. It's just that would be an extra added stress that you just don't need. Yeah it's my favorite thing is much cleaner and clearer. My skin is and I can go for a walk or a jog with at causing. Malang exactly so kill while I'm do. We have anybody any stories or any advice that people are asking for this week. I've got a story for you. Well it's not as Corey. It's a question it's a problem. Somebody wants to advice and I know who the person is to help so going to bring it to you. So there's a girl in England who question to me. Let's call her Jane Again General Been dating this guy in New York and going back and forth to see each other recently before I break. She was over there and he was spending a lot of time calling and texting this girl. She wondered if she should be worried and she asked him about it and he said don't be silly. She's nineteen anyway. She's just a kid now. This guy himself is in his late. Twenties girl is thirty or early thirties so she of course facebook stock girl find out that the girl was actually older than he said in her early. Twenty s will red flag. Yeah and the question is should she be worried and the answer is yes next restaurant notes? That's not good. That's yeah that makes me feel anxious for her. I mean has he given any more clarity around this relationship or what I mean. How does he know this girl? All the the problem is that. She's trying to be all modern immature. I'm not ask to name what the relationship is. So they haven't actually given a name to inside. Where boyfriend girlfriend okay? Here's my advice about how I would handle that situation when I would do. I was that they can't see each other for a little while is I would start talking to other men and I mean if they're not exclusive than he actually has a right to talk to whoever he wants. I mean he has a right to talk to everyone's anyways but if a if he's not committed he possibly doesn't sound like he's seeing this other girl it sounds like he is when she's not there. Yeah I would get the form plan. Basically and I would have several men on rotation or at least be talking to several men and that way you keep your options open. You're not GonNa have your heart completely broken this guy start seeing this other girl. But I think it's also it's GonNa create you know the auction effect. If he knows that she's talking to other guys and not that you need to grab his nose in it but I think if you just get all upset and jealous worry about who. He's talking to the relationship isn't really GONNA WORK OUT US. No and it's kind of hard if she's in the UK and he's in New York. Yeah I mean is it really GonNa work. I mean I'm WanNa talk because I met someone when I lived in San Francisco that New Zealand and look at me now on the not with that guy anymore but it works out for a while. Yeah I think I mean either. She can say hey. This isn't it really isn't going to work for her than she can say. This is GonNa work for me. I need someone who I'm going to be exclusive with. If he's not trying to be exclusive with her anyways that's a little bit of an answer. Isn't it yeah I mean there? There's your answer right. There tarred with the long distance and without establishing a rule set. You know that you're both enter your boundaries that you're going to follow. I think she needs to do think you're right is I. I would give it an opportunity and say like what is it that you want from this because I just like things as they are strolling along seeing other people while is not going to work for you. Maybe yes maybe no signs like no on. Ev isn't GonNa work then. GonNa move on and the best way to do that is to date other people. Obviously you can't see them in person right now in the UK. They have done. But you can jump on tinder you can go online data and you can still talk and flirt and have people tell you you're pretty or funny or whatever it is an feel good and then realizing that no matter how much it seems that he is not your whole world. You're GONNA be better able to cope if things don't work at a book. That really helped me with this topic because I definitely dated guys. Updating under women in the most atomic dome to go thought themselves basically exactly that language was a book called the four-man Plan. A ROMANTIC SCI FI Cindy Lou Cindy d. y. Lou which is L. U. And she really gets into the signs of dating Ford over man. You're not supposed to sleep with four different man. But you have you have one. Who's like where? Yeah you call like your three. And a half man who's like honest and loving his been accepted into a monogamous relationship. But then you can have like your quarter man who has contact no more than two days. I mean she goes into this whole science about it. But it's really that whole circular dating are dating quite a few people just to keep your options open. I think then you're having fun and your energy is not all focused on one guy. What's he doing or one girl? And this way I think it just kind of lightens it. I think a problem in this day and age though is everyone is doing that. So why right like all the? There's too many choices. That's the problem like we know from supermarket science that if we put six options of a product than we're GONNA maximize sales if we have two options. People buy less with six options. People buy more if we put twenty options. People don't buy it. It's too much so on tinder. For example there is too much choice. And that's going to stop people from choosing because maybe someone better runs a Karnak on the next swipe. Yeah that's it's hard. I think when you meet the right person things just like I just wouldn't hang around for a guy hoping he's GonNa commit to me you know if it's been more than two years. It's one thing if you live together but if you're not living together the guys refusing to commit he seen other people or the girl then it's not gonna go anywhere anywhere anyways. They now. They're not they're not feeling you in. A and maybe it's their own issues. You know a lot of people don't commit a lot of people are emotionally damaged. Need some therapy. You don't WanNa do those people anyways and you know if he doesn't WanNa commit then that's fine for him his choice but then if you want commitment you got to move on to find somebody that's looking for the youth got yeah exactly and wants to keep it and make that. Make that list of your perfect guy. I think that's a really good thing to as well Geno Caroline I. I made the list of my perfect guy by nine months ago. Ten months ago and what I did as went through all of my taxes. And it's like there was something about them that I liked wanted like most about them. And that's how I constructed this guy. I went through that person sense of humor. That person's intelligence that person's legs constructed this image anew of the perfect guy in my head and I did as I was driving for city. I'm when I saw that guy. I went up to kiss him before I even spoke to him. And we're still together the true story so those lists are good because what you focus on. It's what you'd find interview list for what you want in life. Your unconscious looks for ways to make that happen and my unconscious mind immediately. Spotted what I was looking for at least physically but hey it happened to work out for you. I think you can tell a lot from somebody's eyes as well. Just just the way that they look at. You are their body language and Yeah Okay. The looks definitely like my dream guy but that would only get you one date right. The one something. That's GONNA loss or something. That's more rich than you need. Tabs similar values for example or at least be open to other values too good communication and and all that kind of stuff and so it goes for everything in life if you on a really awesome online job then write down. What does that look like? What what does it look like do therapy online? Or if you're you're taking like cure sewing business online. What does that look like a successful online sewing business? Right down on your unconscious starts working making when you sleep. Your unconscious mind. Takes whatever you've thought about that day and compares it to the whole rest of your life and it finds associations that you can consciously think of unleash. Some inspiration comes from so to get it down on paper. It's Dan. There's another good one. I recommend another book for like in thinking of your your friend is. He's just not that into you. By Greg Barron Heartburn harder and Liz and everything but yeah look. He's just not that into you. I know they made a movie about. The book is fantastic. I give I will recommend actually another piece of advice I got from you. Caroline to give to her. I remember you may be set on a podcast on your radio show and I said look. Did you ever see that movie? When the guy was overseas on he was seeing somebody else in between on. Wouldn't commit just like no. I haven't seen that movie. Why moving nobody would watch that movie. Either Choose Monroe Shit Moving House. Get up a done just like no but I need to change. I want to be in a good movie. I was like yeah. Yeah you need a good movie so like make a good movie. I know that's not good. Did Shit that's it. Yeah I did say that on the Radio. They still had called in or something. I said God that reminds me of that movie. Where blab obliges fed back their thing and then was remembered. There might need a bait that movie. That really sucks and I mean this is the kindest way I starred in some pretty shitty movies out like. Oh my God but you can. You are the screenwriter of your life. And you're the director Ed. You're the producer and you can change it like you said. Ride a new story and refuse to like Lao any of those scenes. You don't want anymore can't do anything about the past. You can change the future on. I think it's a good idea going forward with your life to write down your bottom line. Core values for example is exclusive to me. It might be one of those values are messages me without me. Having to prompt light one of them will ever is for you that you look that you're looking for in a relationship that you're just not going to be happy with that right at Dun. Don't let that slide. Don't have a micro penis. That's another one I recommend putting on your list. Don't have space. Yeah was a penis nastiness but not a micro penis. I just feel terrible. Guys who have won but anyway. That's totally either. Maybe maybe we've talked enough daryl. I think research talked about micro penises unusually time to go although what's what's that. Tv show and the guys go to micro penis. I don't know I don't watch it so shit show except for the hangover to wasn't that where he's got the little penis Chang Chang maybe that saying yeah real penis was yeah. Wow Real Penis but I'm sure it gets a lot bigger when it some hockey wrecked. He's a he's a he's a he's a grower now shower. I've had guys claim to be that and that was the case butter the do pick back. Okay I don't smoke that stance when he gets a anyways. Okay I think we digressed a little bit too much but stay saved say healthy. Look after yourself. We're going to be doing lots more podcasts. Because can't fucking leave the house so to us right to us or any advice. You need any questions. You have in topics that you want us to cover our Schumer here stack and so we are your captive advice. Givers whatever you WANNA Call Co. we'll have a good week guys and I look forward to more stories invites with caroline soothing. Sounds good right I?

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A god from a machine

Sound of Mind

39:38 min | 2 years ago

A god from a machine

"So you're injecting E coli traded with crisper to change your DNA. Yeah. Basically the holy has within it a plasma. Which is what I extract later in injected myself. This has a mile Staten inhibitor in it the omega super muscle. So it's sorta like Spiderman getting bitten by the spider having right superstring. Yeah. This is sound of mind a pud cost about strange journeys. Are you worried at all a little bit? Yeah. What are you worried about having a reaction to afford foreign protein? The odds are very slim. It's probably irrational fear. But I'm just a little nervous. You know? Also at my messing with my jeans and. It's kind of a new experience for me. Richly is a mutant and assignable for the last ten years. He's been putting experimental technology into his body. He and others colored biohacking. Every morning. I wake up and say fuck the FEMA. Or is say fuck the USDA or. The medical system because I got a Bill from some washer that I probably get myself. Riches being in and out of court trying to get more time with his kids in custody arrangement in court. His ex wife said he was mentally unstable and immoral. She took me a court to take the kids away from me forever. So the basically what I was doing was that act of self mutilation. She told the court he'd rejected religious morality reach hit actually grown up Momon, the oldest of seven kids. And as he tells it throughout his childhood. He was a good moment. Zealous even he's religion promised him that after the coming apocalypse he'd have a tunnel life and godlike powers, and he couldn't have been more excited for the world to be set on fire, but something happened in his early twenties. And he lost his faith. He was confronted with a new reality. He wouldn't become a God wouldn't even have an afterlife so facing certain death. He tend to science to fulfill the promises that religion had made immortality. Godlike powers. And for years. It actually went really, well he was making the money. He figured it Nate and rating about breakthroughs and life extension an artificial intelligence until almost overnight. He lost everything. And that's when he realized something science doesn't make promises and he's former religion. Well, it wasn't done with him yet. Cyborgs and mutants used to only exist in science fiction now they here, and it's likely they'll become much more common. They might be the world's newest minority group the way we treat them now could unfil- a chain of events with echoes for decades centuries. Maybe millennia and a case like riches could be a catalyst until me. Nobody had really said modifying yourself is that make you a parent. You not humans get human rights. I don't know court cases discrimination, even hate crimes. These things are already happening now today, we're jumping ahead of ourselves. Let's get back to rich. Most people coming grinder grinding is just where you're playing levels over and over and over this level up your character and doing completely boring. Repetitive things. Characters improved. So I was okay with saying. Okay. I'm a grinder. We are minority. And we have a lot of opposition. I sort of feel like them fighting against something. What does that feel like? Well, it's really a familiar filling to me I'm kind of used to be in that situation to be honest. Having the belief system that I have in my community. I'm already on the outside. And I don't mind being on the outside. When is your earliest memory of thinking, you'd live forever? I guess for the majority of my early life. I felt like I was going to live forever. Mormons are different than normal Christians. They have this belief that when you die you still have a physical body. And if you're good enough than you too can become a God yourself and go on to make worlds without end and be God to mortals ever since. I was a kid. I was taught that within my lifetime. I see the coming of Christ. It could happen any day. And so honestly that had a profound impact on my life because I didn't really have very good long-term planning. Everything was kind of a clips by this apocalypse that was going to happen. I kind of slacked off in school. I didn't really think much about my future. Because why would you? So many other things are just trivial when you think you're going to die before you die of old age. And you think about the afterlife and attorney there. I mean, nothing matters here on this earth. Tends to mean like you were pretty kind of intense kid in a way like other people around you thinking in similar ways. Or did you look at them in think, why aren't you guys planning for this or panicking? Yeah. I did look at them and say, you have the sampling system that I do why aren't you taking this series -ly for me? This was a very relevant. It was going to happen. So things like planning for a future putting money into a savings account. This seems like such a bad idea. How did that make you feel? Did it make you cynical when you thought about it were you hopeless added? How did you feel for most of my life? I felt the Nantucket station for it. I I wanted it to happen. When I was thirteen year old kid thinking while life is really miserable. I just can't wait till it ends. Can't wait to die, basically. Because the rewards in the afterlife, we're going to be so much better. It's really sick though that I'm verbalizing it. So I liked watching shows like the Jetsons and reading comic books about heroes all through my teens and into adulthood, I was reading magazines looking at the science and technology stuff. There's all these features making predictions about being able to go to the moon and having lifespans of going to be indefinite that I got really excited about I thought, this is really awesome. But I don't think that this is actually going to happen because by the time they figure this all out God, we'll have returned. And you know, who cares? I just didn't see it as anything other than a fantasy. Was there anything in culture in cartoons? Comex that you kind of now look back to and say, oh, yeah. I was really influenced by like inspector gadget. All like, the six million dollar, man. I was a big fan of the experts series as a kid. I like will rain a lot. But. Is my favorite now is your favorite now magneto is one of my favorites. And he's a villain, but he's a good villain. He's got reasoning buying what he's doing. He doesn't want to cower they wants to let everyone show themselves off. But with the out of the closet about their meeting. Their identity. Do I think that requires world domination? No. Bit hesitant to draw this parallel. But he's kind of like the Malcolm X of the mutant welding away is getting people to stand up themselves and the fightback. I think that's a great parallel, actually. Still coming charms tend to fight it. Necessary. There's a big time civil rights narrative going on in men where you live now. Do you feel judged? Yeah. Oh, definitely definitely in the black sheep, Mike community. Why don't even know where to start with the culture is so strange. I live in town as to bars and somebody tried to open up a nightclub Roque ground on it. The city basically came back and said, you know, what you can't go through with this is gonna light zoning when they asked why the mayor said, well, dancing leads to promiscuity. Straight out of foot loose the main denomination here. Where I live is Mormon. They had a big debate about running public transportation on Sundays. There is an active role that government takes in being like a morality squad and making sure that nobody has premarital sex drinks too, much or parties or anything religion in the state of Utah is an all politics. It influences state politics like crazy, and it skews all the culture, I think most of them believe with an apocalypse is gonna occur within their lifetime. So much conformity is really bothers me something really sick about it. Why do you continue to live in that community? Might therapist is actually encouraging me just the move. But I have my kids who still appear and I have limited visitation with him. But the amount of visiting that I do with them is very precious to me. So for the time being I'm here. I'm just recently become a dad for me. It's just a very intensely emotional experience. I've never experienced anything. Like it really. What was it like figure? It was definitely a game changer for me the gravity of parenthood. It does change you at something that I loved and when your kids get older, it gets even better, you know, when you can start having conversations with them. And they ask you the most simple and profound questions and you have to explain it. And it just gives even more perspective to your own life. My son is ever since he was a little kid. I come in the room instead of watching cartoons. He's watching documentaries if forms his own very rational opinions on things than I don't know. I just love him for that. I think that's great is not tainted by me, in my opinion. My daughter is really she does is different tech camps. You know for girls soldering things or programming as she's just a natural unit. She sits down within show program robots to a certain course or program characters in a game. But she's also very social will walk through the store Chelsea people immer school and Bill say heidiwear, she remembers everyone's name we like checking out dank names, man. Mets thing. Look to say show me your names, like show me some funny Namespace they love memes in YouTube videos, anyway. About a year after our divorce ahead some shin. Armor implants, I had a doctor's appointment. I asked my to take the kids review hours. I got back and she was supposed to return them at a certain time, and they still weren't home. So I was calling texting. White anything? Then eventually, I'm sorry, rich. They're staying with me either gonna have more night again. Bring it back around the cops. And she said forget about is like I call please. My wife got my kids involved in therapy. The therapist was basically told that I was self mutilating in order to become a more. Perfect beings today is Friday September the first twenty seventeen. We're here in a matter of levers Slee. She took me to court. To take the kids away from me forever. Did your legal counsel rely on any legal precedents regarding by hacking of anything like that? No. Because there is none. I count some case law for him decide, but it involves a transgender person. And then my attorney look at it. And he says, I'm not showing this to the judge. I mean, this is a conservative Mormon judge. My family moved around a lot. I went to five different high schools by the time. I hit eleventh grade. I just moved to this new school, you know, as really behind dinner Sam what was going on. We went to a new church, and I wasn't making unique friends. I hated it there. So I moved in with friends and would smoke pot during all the time. I stopped going to church completely. I was just going to continue to Livingston have these desires couldn't as a teenager. You know, control. Racked with guilt because I was just living wicked lifestyle, you know, looking back. It was totally mild totally normal teenager stuff. He was living with friends family in his all town and got a job washing dishes during the graveyard shift. Then he's friends mum, quote, them smoking pot. She basically said that it's time for you to go home. And then I just thought. Wow, I'm I'm gonna get in trouble for all the things that I've done, and then I'm going to be back in that shitty. School. So I just snuck out she was busy yelling at ERC kids. You're getting corron walking. Mocking bring other packed up. All my stuff into the back of my little tiny pickup truck. She didn't notice then I got in the car and took off went to work that night. And then just started sleeping in the back of the truck. He's letting these two hundred dollar truck for a month to one night. Rich finished wack came back. And he's truck was gone along with everything yearned. As devastated I thought somebody stole it. But it turned up. My dad have extra key by that just said, hey. Coming home. I was just convinced that I was gonna go to hell. God's gonna return light the world on fire. The righteous will be taken up, and you know, the wicked Lieber at that point. I didn't want it to happen. Of course. I thought I really hope that he doesn't come tomorrow. When do you feel like you lost faith in religion privy that was a gradual process? I really started to think of a maybe the Mormon religion isn't true. Maybe it was other religions out there that are when I started investigating other religions like Buddhism, witchcraft all kinds of things. After taking a certain drug. I just realize don't this is all Olshan. God was just a chemical in my brain that part of my brain. It mean shut off with certain types of drugs. So I lost religion. And I became a Nathan. When I was in my early twenties. I was gonna live attorney and have an or in hell I'd have turn life as something that I wanted to just live for thirty years or whatever then die. And so I felt really cheated. So naturally, I just fell back into future ISM looking at things. Like the Jetsons. An reading about the latest and greatest in medical Vance's science was my replacement for God at this point. I think science is the answer. Someday, they're gonna make that's going to let you live forever, and people will just take it. And that's it. But what if it's really expensive? Maybe I should devote my life to relate saving a lot of money. So that when it does become available. I'll be able to afford it by now he was married, and he's wife was less enthusiastic. She was just gonna dismissive about it. But whatever chirpy wanna live over grade that she wasn't herself onboard with living over there that was a little bit crazy how much money will you thinking that you might need. I figured I'd need a few million to be on as Michael was five million. Wow. I figured I could live comfortably off the interest rates. Every morning five AM, the stock market's just speculating. I did pretty good. I didn't have any home runs. My father came to me. And he said you wanna go open up a office for this company importing supplements in China? To make a lot of money. I ended up being out there for about two years. Our daughter was born I moved back home to what I learned in went into those state markets. I found properties that we're like in lousy neighborhoods that people have just been collected. Pick these things up for like eight thousand dollars ten thousand dollars. And so I started buying all these properties in rehabbing them. So then I ran across the largest private property owner in the county. Trying to liquidate is for polio of hundred fifty six units in something like ninety different properties to get his big break reach needed money to pay the deposit. So he borrowed against the houses. He already had or rather he barred against what the houses would be worth when he finished renovating them. I my money into we having the properties that I did have. And I applied for a loan using the equity that I had in those properties as a down payment on the bigger project. So that I could get bigger piece of the five that's my big dream. But at this perfect storm of awful things that occurred. I I got a phone call from people that were giving me the loan. We have ever from your attorney and Marwood buzzing. So I'm trying to get a hold of him. Can't do it by. I'm freaking out. I had that was committing to some money. He. Ended up backing out. But the bigger thing is by contractor hadn't done a damn thing. I give them fifty percent down. I hear he went to Puerto Rico this point. I'm completely screwed. And then the real estate market's tanked. So I'm white out. I went one day for being set for life to having nothing all my savings from China. We're just wiped out. Afforded by extension therapies things like that. But it will just pass me up. Now. With no money and a wife that doesn't want me to take any risk whatsoever. Well, what what do I do? I don't see any way out. I thought my future was done for. I felt horrible. And I just went and got a job and just started the daily grind. It was around that time that my grandmother died. She was a really tough woman. She'd been through a lot. She wasn't the type to let you cry too much or let you wallow in misery. She she kinda get mad at you and say come on. There's no use in crying about it. Get over it. And let's get back to work. She was head of a hoarder. She had all these tubs plastic tubs full of magazines that she'd saved and these things span the nineteen forties through the nineteen ninety s I open these up, and I start flipping through into laughing hysterically at all this funny articles, then just out of instinct, I'm flipping into the science sections. And seeing them talk about artificial heart. You know, and all these different medical advances. That were being made there's an article saying we'll have two hundred year lifespan by the year nineteen ninety nine Bielby taking gently vacations on the moon the year two thousand the more. I read these things the more. I realize I've been putting a lot of faith in science, and that's something that nobody should ever. Do scientists require faith and people should be putting faith in science. It was kind of frightening because basically everything that they're saying in those articles, then they're saying the same thing in the articles now, and they've just adjusted the dates. Which is I guess what religions does while isn't it with the right, right? Getting. So basically, I looked at it. And I said, you know, what I'm no better off. Despacito waiting for the future to happen. Then waiting for the second coming of Christ and the apocalypse. I'm putting faith in something that I have zero control over. And so I panicked because I thought while these people who read this magazine back in nineteen fifty two and thought if they could just hold out till nineteen ninety nine they would have two hundred year lifespan all this before dead. If there was some medical intervention the became available. What are the chances? Hey that I could afford it or be that it would even be approved within my lifetime with all the red tape and cybernetic enhancements. There's no companies out there that were making these iber Natick enhancements for people who wanted elective surgery to become cyborgs the legal ability involving these things is just astronomical. If I wanted any of these dreams come true as going to have to do it myself. Every year. There's a film festival in the middle of nowhere Utah. The year that I went out that the was like Tokyo monster. They have these small celebrities be list or just strange people. So one of these people her name was poppy, a foreigner. She's come to the US to go to college. And she gets tonsillitis shit is an operation, but you can't afford it. She doesn't know what to do. So she goes starts researching everything that she's gotta do to remove tonsils. She's got a mirror a scalpel. I'm assuming some kind of light. Okay. In a bottle, whiskey or something? And she does it. She removes her own consuls. She seals up the wounds. Cauterize is them. Does everything yourself? Everyone was. Wow, this lady's. Crazy me, I'm just thinking. Wow. Here's somebody who's not a doctor who went out research all these things and did it and not only that but many doctors examined her and complimented her on what an exquisite job she had done. I remember meeting poppy and just thinking. Wow. This is one of the coolest people I've ever met rich found out about grinding online in the biohacking community grinders. The do it yourself punks that don't white for anything to be approved. Thank. Experiment by implanting things right into their bodies since I found out about the your magnet thing. I looked in the point -ment and drove eight hours to go get women stalled I couldn't help. But notice the kind of parallel between like your favorite character in x men being magneto. And then your first peration being a magnet in your own hand. All right. Yeah. That was related possibly. I thought that was an amazing power. I mean, I can bottlecaps up and paper clips things like that. That's that's about the extent of it. He also had an NFC chip in his hand which can be used like a K to wirelessly unlock doors stotka or be used instead of a password for phones computers or other devices a buyer themm Japanese forum keeps track of his temperature and stores information like a sort of wireless. Thumb drive. He's also working on a vibrating paints cold the love Tra nine thousand but riches signature implants, the ones he's most famous for the wireless headphones in his ease. Actually imperceptibly implanted in the pot of his ES cold the tracks the pointy bits in front of the halls. Head bone implants in two different audio devices music phone calls during from a distance here through walls. Listen to my wife's heartbeat guy. Your tender and listen to Asian to metal detectors. I'd hooked up some contact microphones down by ankle out walking. And I just heard of moving light really heavy. Footsteps, and I kept looking behind me to see who was sneaking up on me. Eventually quite a ways down the road. I see this woman should just jogging and get your footsteps like thunder. Basically, nobody could sneak up humming. You. So you guys head kids. What do they think about biohacking? They used to think it was the coolest thing in the world. I'd go to school and if bring their friends, hey, come out, my cyborg dad, a little party tricks were just say, I'm gonna put my finger in your ear. Don't freak out. And they'll be able to hear the audio to who ritual. Ready had magnet vinca only needed turn that magnet into a speaker was a coil a wound up, but while that looks kind of like a spring, so he planted a coil behind the magnet and his finger was a speaker it picked up the radio waves coming out of his e phone implants. And it's freezing league clear is such a weird thing. This one of the things you can have just experience. In twenty fifteen rich and his wife got divorced. We have been together. Seventeen years. Basically got. Together with her high school friend. Like left me for him. Your whole world changes in when you have kids involved too. It's not. It's not just two people. Splitting up. He's got a whole family Inco. How am I going to break them news? Those horrible time my life. After the divorce rich, and his ex wife shed custody of the kids a rotating schedule of one week with H parent about a year after divorce. I had this implant procedure on my shins. My ex wife saw this video online that I had. As became triggered. Basically. Why do you think she so the shin procedures different to your other procedures the thing? I think that trigger was seeing them out of pain that I went through which was considerable those pretty guiding. But the. It's something I really wanna done. So I got tough. And I just for it. I think she was going to shock by that the other procedures. She didn't see my kids. Never saw the video. They've never seen any kind of procedure or anything like that. They saw the stitches that were on my legs and bandages gross. And then douse it. My wife, basically went into third business. This is whether that's doing putting metal my body in trying to transform myself into some divine being or something. The kids perspective of their dad was just radically changed. It went from the being a guy who had cool weird powers that you would introduce your friends to to. That's got this problem. We don't really like to talk about. But it's essentially traumatizing. My not somebody who self mutilates. I don't sell farm. I'm not biohacking to cope or Gill with any kind of emotional situation. I'm also not a masochist. I don't Dr joy from inflicting pain on myself. Let's just something that is part of the process is go with it. Because that's what has to be done in the end. It's worth it's like a tattoo for the first twenty years of his life reach being preparing for judgment as a moment. Now, he found himself standing trial as a cyborg and it wasn't looking good for him. Will you worried about potentially setting a precedent regarding by hacking? Well, something I actually wanted to do. I don't want somebody might position again reach felt that if he didn't set a precedent in this case, it could divert by hackers to second class citizens, but with no legal president in very little money. He was struggling he set up a fundraising page online and managed rise about eight thousand dollars mostly from the buyer hacking community, he used the. Money to fly in two experts on by hacking to testify things that I was doing. We're not crazy in other people are getting similar things. And if these pursuits of science and discovery the majority of my legal was based around biohacking, the judge pull this on her second day of court biohacking. I don't find troubling biohacking middle. Find troubling let skip all this talk about bio. Hi, I'm sick of hearing about. Two screws in my ankle and leg because of a motorcycle accident cornea transplants. Both is frankly that really wasn't an issue to me is I don't think it's that bad. Do you think that that might have set a legal principle almost because then he went on to say like the responded does or doesn't do with his body's not an issue in this case, unless it affects the children negatively in on a whole, I find it hasn't been doesn't. In fact, they were kind of proud of that their dad had some things made him kinda cool. The judges final words on it were kinda unrewarding to just said biohacking. It wasn't a part of my consideration might decision. It seems to me. It was a good thing for bio hackers in the future because he's saying it's not a threat to the children. Yeah. In a way to you feel. Good about that. I think what he said was attorneys inadequate job of showing that it was a harm or that. It was safe to the children. I feel kind of cheated in this too because I don't think that it was said in such a way that it's going to help people out. But I mean, I could be on. I guess it didn't said damaging president right where you are at about that at any point. Oh, absolutely. I am a hundred percent positive that. If I didn't have my expert witnesses there, it would have any disaster for transmit is by whacking. So we did a good job of defending the 'cause I've also found evidence that he's a good dad. He loves his kids. He wants historians ever write books, documenting the cyborg civil rights with riches case might be remembered as the best to go to court, but it wouldn't be the last recently Austrailia meow Luda disco gamma meow meow successfully appealed the. Fiction. Brought by the state government of New South Wales for implanting chip extracted from public transport boss back in twenty twelve. Steve men might have been the first victim of cyber crime. When he was assaulted by employees at McDonalds wearing an old mental reality headset implant sort of precursor to Google glass after rich had two days. He felt he was the victim of a more traditional brand of discrimination. These arguments oppositions that Richardson atheist therefore he doesn't have a moral compass. I thought maybe rich was exaggerating here. But it's true. The exact quote was Richard has openly rejected not only the idea of personal morality, but the very religious tradition upon which western morality is based he insisted that the children be raised in an atheist environment. He has openly stated his contempt for religion. The factors that court needs to look at is the past conduct and demonstrated moral standards of the parties. Everybody knows people positions of power. Here are Mormon for the most part much was made about the respondents alleged easiest lifestyle. In somehow that would not be beneficial to the children, they're closing statements that I was an atheist and therefore had no moral compass is so insulting. But the courts totally Belfort. I don't know that either party can take a high moral ground. At least the petitioner stated that she would like to give her kids the chance to accept or reject religion wouldn't allow the kids or your wife to go to church during the marriage while this cord can't take any position on religion. At least petitioner would flight to give the kids chance choice. A not sure that respondent would be willing to do that. Mike it's been raised atheist. And so, of course, I'm objecting to that simply because put on a roll when I sit higher than you that doesn't make me. Infallible. These decisions for custody are. Hard. I believe and find that it is in the kids. Best interest to have Mambi the primary custodial parent. After the weekend. I want to new arrangement to start. All right. We're reasons. And listen religion wasn't the only factor in the judge's decision. But it did richest guys like she named plant rejected by subcutaneous tissue. He'd been cost out again, and it left him with even less trust in the institutions around him. What drives you now? What are your goals at the moment in your life? Right now is the time because I've lost my kids. I'm still in court battles trying to negotiate what I'm allowed to do that. My kids are in therapy. I don't get to see him that much. Now, I've got roommates. I'm single I'm still it'd they job. I'm just barely making ends knee. I've got this child support burden which I'm happy to pay me wrong is just more than I was spending. When I actually had the kids in custody. So life is really kinda lousy. I have all these projects. Wanna do? I want implants that detect other devices around me, I want gene modifications for solar power skin. I want infrared vision I want older by vision. I want to be able to fix my damn color. Blindness muscles deteriorate I wanna longer lifespan. But you know, it's hard to get investors for these. I still want to be aside. We're gonna mutant. So what drives me now is kind of revenge. Every morning I wake up, and I say fuck the or I say what the USDA or. The medical system because I got a Bill from them for some bullshit. I probably get myself or. For the orthodontist. Honestly, I'm grooving by revenge and revenge, but like I want to. All the things that I wanted first place. I want improved might oh Kandari of I want a digestive system. That's more efficient neck in just a wider range of materials and calories implants for hearing things that distance. I want implants for you know, my love I want all kinds of things. I've got a ton. Just got all these barriers constant set of hurdles government regulation, financial restraints. I'm just this off honestly, but I get up, and I think how am I gonna figure out a way around. For him. I. Just going do end up in jail. I don't know. Rich says the Jane modification injection from the start of this episode didn't change Jane's, but his body compensated for the changes now, he's working on projects involving stem cells a huge, thanks to rich for speaking. With me for this episode. Thanks also to Sydney's to office putting series and thanks Jason lacunae Maria cost the and Rebecca Clave for their constructive feedback. If you want to get in, touch, you can Email sound of mind podcast at J, mail dot com. Also, thanks to all of you who recommended this podcast to your social media, followers, and your friends. It's made huge difference. Really noticed. The numbers bump up the podcast is still starting out. 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GSMC Sports Podcast Episode 579: Zion's Debut, Senior Bowl vs the NFL Combine and NBA All-Star Starters

GSMC Sports Podcast

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GSMC Sports Podcast Episode 579: Zion's Debut, Senior Bowl vs the NFL Combine and NBA All-Star Starters

"In this is your ultimate staffer. Everything sports the Golden state media concepts or podcast. Should I say more from the NFL MLB the NBA MMA. It's all in here. Golden state media concepts sports podcast. Listen Yeah Yeah. And every body walking back for another s MC sports casts presented by G. S. M. C. podcast network. My name is. Chris Bleeds and as always. I would like to remind you if you haven't already made sure you subscribe to the podcast mix. You're always on top when we drop stuff. Make sure you never ever miss an episode on you could please as well give us a five star rating and review is very helpful. Youtube has likened in like and also if you guys on social media on social media you can find this. Their twitter instagram facebook. Wherever you are we are as I come find us? We can talk. We can debate. We can discuss different things and speaking of discussing things boy did that zone. You give us lots of this discuss dissect and talk about. I mean I was was not old enough or I am not enough to remember that much about Lebron's view but this guy to be one of the most anticipated. Mba debuts in a a long time in my personal opinion. I mean Zayas Guy who economy has suffered a sports media disputes. What in general ablaze the past couple of years I know he was? He gained a lot of popularity in social media fame and went viral few years ago when he was doing all his in game dunks engage in while all those dunks in games those all kind of went viral. The knobs that fame followed him to Duke and as as fodder to those summer league and then preseason and then got hurt hurt before season starts to wait and wait and wait. I mean obviously NBA was not an MBA ratings. Were not happy about that as they put the elephants on a lot of national. TV Games And though he weren't as good because they didn't has on there but now Zion is back and that game from him on the natty Spurs is was very interesting because of the discussions that it caused. I mean in in the beginning of the in the first three quarters. Let me just put out the first three quarters. You could see that this guy who hadn't played basketball in while you still trying to work himself back trying to still trying to figure out where he defend himself in and people reacted according to that. People were calling him. Buzz people were like. Oh He's not in good shape he's overweight blah blah blah. Ah Whatever whatever I'll just all types overreactions which tend to come from social media. I mean that's what social media basically is. I mean if there was no overreaction on the cease to exist assist but the bad thing about it but then came the the explosion if you will I mean three. Three minutes of of gametime demand routed off seventeen straight points and it's and I mean I met now I can't imagine it wasn't awesome. Aussie there in New Orleans. But I can only imagine how loud that building was. After that four three win injuries island. I mean you would. You would have thought I might see from. Some of the stuff is on twitter. You would have thought that that was game seven of the NBA finals the way they were reacting. But I mean that's the thing when you have a guy like Zion. He can bring this sort of excitement and energy to a fan base. That very few people. Can I mean there are a lot of there've been a lot of things for the NBA. Fans get excited about throughout this season whether it's the play of The Brian de together was the emergence of Luca as one of the best players in the league weather the highest trae Young House from John Moran who we will talk to talk about in the next segment but I mean collectively. That was that three minutes is probably one of the best moments of the NBA season so far. I don't know what that says about Zara That says about the season this far but I mean it was it was it was shot. I mean non with a shocking. 'cause I mean he's a great player here but it was just it was almost kinda jaw dropping that you just you're like what am I watching right now. I mean just if you just run through and I mean it's a shame that That the Spurs one game and really no one cares because of what Zahran did. But I mean that's the that's the case of Zion. He's he's GonNa be the bigger story the most nights but I said this first game the first quarter is then I think when I when I know something. Click which was before this plan talk about. He had an assist to chart the the play before. So the the assist the spurs comedown padding was misses the three Zion Scars Scott who was like a semi tall center easy clears on like it was nothing like he had like like he'd been planning for two months? At this point that you would have thought it was as far Azzam you gave skies over him grabs the rebound push the ball to floor Bassett trauma for laugh. And you're like Oh okay throw no now for live for. You're like Oh okay. That's kind of what we've been waiting to see. It's like as Zahran was is a guy for The kind of build in the episode. That he has he's pretty. He's a pretty good distributor showcase throughout the game. Unfortunately they weren't always able to knock down the the passes ones I. His his team is one always able to knock gunshots. When I'm passing the ball but you could see that even not having played for a while you said a good overall overall feel for the game so that was that was a good sounds? Good that was good for him to get the they said to get the lap for each one more and then after that is when the scorn barrage started and when it started couldn't stop I mean he shoots issues the first three very Oh okay that's big because if if there's if there's one thing that we know is that generally in this league they're gonNA prove make you prove that you can hit jump shots guys not know freighting jump shots in. Zion wasn't really a guy. He's got a shot that that wasn't his thing. He was known for that Edison. The dunks rebounds blocked shots as he was known for three point shot. So they're gonNA make you. They're gonNA fortune shoot that. So that was that was that would be permitted. Knock down the first. Just one than spurs go down score again ABSO- balcony at the ball back. They run a nice little like fake legs. Arms up topic spins back in Lonzo lobbed at form Scott over the Rosen again just showcasing that athleticism that everybody Marvel d'auvergne everybody's waiting to see an absolute. We saw it. It's still there. Senate came down the then. After the Spurs had another shot. Zarin John comes down. There's another pass from Lonzo is another reporter and you're like okay to to those big. I think this was right at the time arm. We could. This was right at the like seven fifty three mark so you could see they were trying to sell out because they went up to the table and then I think I think his mind been around the time where Lonzo was might be around the plate with Lonzo like Alvin gentry tried to call time on just like no we're not doing that And then and that's when they try to solve it didn't work they end up bringing them back to the bench because as I was feeling himself. Now then Then I'm the sportsman. ARGH another rebound it gets the ballgame tries to lay it up gets a block but then his negras law by goes up with a quick second jump puts in puts in another layups in. That's now what is that ten in a row for him at that point. Yes Oh three. Six ten in a row MIDAS has cut the spurs lead down to Attempt only was a temporary now down to three given up on the other end the PELICANS dunes aren't comes down his his third three and to this substitution and They get steel. And then Zaylon hits What's it design has amongst With a mean jab step back three his four threes is seventeen point in a row and it was and it would just absurd notice absurd. I mean like I said the whole Reno's gone crazy. Social media was going crazy. Every everybody's everybody's gone crazy and rightfully so because this even though it took him three quarters and change he gave everybody exactly we want. They wanted to see which is something to be excited about. That's all that's all. You can really have them do. They're just provide just provide people reason to get excited in and that's exactly what he did and it was. It was acceptable to see. I mean clearly i. I didn't know that all of a sudden your Caen you come back and you saw shooting staff that was That was news to me but regardless it was it was like I said it was just an impressive impressive feat in unfortunately some computation went to that right after that is when he got taken out right after the fourth time out and then they take him out or maybe not they may want to time out after they hit the three. Now take that back so when I hit a three than Zionist fouled misses the one free throw makes the second one they give up a laugh and then that's what they call the Tima and then Zayn wasn't seen again the rest of the game and that's Kinda weird discussion but because it was like everywhere on social media was like Oh liaison. He's playing. Well he's doing well but then obviously the medical team the medical staff. The PELICANS front office had decided that a he's GonNa play. How many of her medicine than even as I talked about at the after the game because I was ready to come on here and skewer him for making the decision that sounds like it was above his head he the Medical Safdar decided? Like hey look going play such and such amount of minutes to hold trick to that and then Osceola like Nike thoughts about the for them to even be able to get him. Extra time was already more because the like you said they try to some out of out like the the eighth of the former mark into the coaches were even getting sub that all game and they were able to he was able to buy an extra two two and a half minutes in order to keep himself again he was playing so well they didn't make any reason to take him out. But at the same time and you got taken out didn't come back in and then that was the now that for his night so so The one thing I will say about the the thing. That was unfortunate is that for him. It's just that In my I own personal opinion sometimes we can over think things as people and now I understand like are you not gonNa you don't WanNa China Strain the guy first game back completely agree I would not have advised him to play. The whole court has been extremely stupid But at this point I think at at that point he because he only played eighteen minutes total in the game which was to more than they probably wanted him to play based on the way they were selling them out. But it's like if you take it a three minute break because the game was still close with the. Pelicans still could've won. Understands the just a game Jane where she doesn't mean that much but like and also said he had no assorted had no issues. Some like do we really think two more minutes would've then set his knee off or decide anything like a negative role. What do you really think that to women's would have been that detrimental to his health? And maybe you do. Maybe like I said I'm not privy to the data with information at the PELICANS medical staff as they have caused them to make decisions so on ignorant in that regard. I don't maybe I'm like maybe I knew the new information my opinion would be different. Because I don't and I'm just outside looking in. I'm like as long as he like. That's the thing. Is that like these these. The you have to communicate with at these athletes. If the guy feels good and looks good I get. It's not he was like by the end of the read. The fourth quarter not. He was laboring up and down the court. It's not like he was struggling to get off if a shot who shrugging off the dribble like he was actually playing well so like if he feels good any looks good. I think you can extend that grace period but I give them credit for being For sticking to their game plan because they would have been very easy to just be like for our should be go over to the guys and be like. Hey He's playing. Can I leave him. Never like you know what yeah. Let's see how it goes. They were like no. This is the plan is. We're GONNA stick to in cool now while I wasn't happy with the night on and I don't necessarily I agree with that just because like I said the risk of injury is always is always apparent whenever you're playing in game whether you're coming off injury or you're fully healthy your there's always a risk to when you of injured plan in game and also I mean he's a guy that's going to work himself into shape by playing. He's not going to work himself into shape by getting three four minutes. SPURTS here in at the beginning of each quarter. That's not I mean. Ozzy will gradually get there. But it'll take longer if he's the bill the last time place so our macgyver. That's the dislike if the guy feels good. Just let him play offs. I'm not saying play him. Thirty forty minutes out of men stupid good but I mean if you're were that worried about him even playing twenty than like art is it wasn't even could. Could you in theory kept him longer until he could get to that point in your in the medicos asset summation just. Because I'm like did I know he said that on broadcast they mentioned about how He was he could have been back early but they didn't have no practices in order to get him back into shape. That's why I took until now to get him back and I mean that's reasonable title but I'm like you could have saved him to like after the All star break until February whatever in order to get to where he can play more than four minute intervals in a game. But that's just my my own personal opinion. We'll see how it goes we on Friday. I think that's when their next game is yeah. They play the nuggets nuggets on Friday. Zombie Play nearly pay Sunday Tuesday Friday so no no back to backs. You'll always have day at least one day if not too often between arrest so we'll see how he gradually Other graduate decide to increases minutes in Manhattan looks in those increase minutes but I said if if the debut was was anything like what we could potentially get from him. I mean the Pelicans are going to be a good team. Not just now but in the future as well is that he's he's going to be a big part of that so that was great. It's been says anything everything could ask for. You wanted to see some excitement From him see some good players from him and that's exactly what he gave us so that was great and like I said now at least mix. It'll make those Pelicans national. TV Games more worthwhile than they. I I mean they were because Birmingham's and playing well but I mean the before the season people weren't doing into the Pelicans to watch branding no offense them he's played great but is is just awesome. Zion's box office. He's the guy that people are GonNa WanNa see and now we have to see him so we'll see how he plays throughout the rest of this season and speaking of Zayn coming back. He's now joining when now he's back he's joining A rookie classes played pretty well without him. So far she has been a lot of exceptional play from different rookies on different teams. And we will talk about those rookies and their season so far for after this break are you looking for the very best. NFL and college football podcast then check out the GSM see football. PODCAST get the latest football news. Both Palm in off the field from the NFL draft to treats to the rumor mill to the NFL combines they got you covered that's GMC. PODCAST DOT COM backslash football dash. podcast get updates on college rivalries key insights and much much more. It's football talk the way you want it. This show eats sleeps and breathes football. Don't forget to like them on facebook and follow them on twitter visit. Yes MC PODCAST DOT COM for more INFO breath. uh-huh yeah the network so as we were talking about Zahn back and that brings us to the rookie class but they were players players playing very well and is a class without Zeile in in a sense of like we. Now that we've forgotten about Zaire but there were there were enough rookies playing in welter to keep our to keep our attention until he got back and one of those players was another person that hails from South Carolina a former format. You teammate of ions. That is one jar mirant now. Jami rant has been I mean as number two overall pick so he was expected to be pretty good obviously and he's been just about as good if not better than advertise. I mean was on over the counter. The only played in the one game. So He's technically I in points for game but John Moran up until Zara came back. Let rookies in points per game with seventeen point. Five he leads. All rookies archies in assists with seven. And the next guy is there has gone at three point. Six Says three point four rebounds this year Per game shooting an eighty percent for from the free throw line forty percent from three and forty almost forty nine percent from the field and that three percentage communes only shooting about like two per game but still forty percent for for for anybody is good but as for as much of a rookie because normally the shot is maybe something that can take longer to come along just to get acclimated to the game But he's done that warming again. We'll see how we hold up throughout the rest of a year. But I mean he's been he's been great any. Alexey has the Grizzlies in contention for a playoff spot. And I mean that is not. What's something I believe? Many people had pegged them for and I definitely wouldn't have assumed they were going to be good enough to compete for a playoff spot. in Djaama's first year now in fairness to that they are still under five hundred and I think the team in eighth right. Now it was the spurs I believe and the Spurs are also under five hundred does not like so it's not like they are they accurate segment world on fire but I mean even still only four games under five hundred is not is not bad at all I mean especially when you think about Lashley they were they were the they were picking. What number you too? And they've been pretty good recently. I'm in the seven and three in the last time you lost. Our last tubes dropped him up. They had the longest active streak unle before that as they won they had won eight in a row. I'm coming into their recent like spurt. I mean they're losing their leasing losing streak and John has been the driving force behind that and behind the play of this team so far this season I mean him a couple with Jeff airing just junior. Who's been playing great in Denham? Brooks whose deputation A step up the season. I've helped those does not John Ranges doing everything by himself. But I mean he. He's obviously been the the main God driving and kind of like the catalyst for this For this big improvement for them on top of all that I mean he's providing us with basically nightly highlights. I mean every every night is a new. You get something whether it's Whether he's GonNa have him gone down somebody like he did with I mean even in even like the place where they don't work out there still impressed like the cat. My loved loved from like a little while ago where he basically almost cleared him. It was it was it. Looked like Vince. Carter Allah Frederick Vice in the Olympics and I mean yeah that was impressive you have the the play a couple of games ago where he went up for the dunk. I think it was against the cavs to on Larry Nance Dunk. Didn't we wasn't gonNA work then. Went to you. Know look behind the back path in like emit airs spinning three sixty those behind his back to Jaren Jackson. Course unfortunate non of course but unfortunately Jason Harrison isn't able to complete the lab blocked but does that he had the alleyoop in that same game the one hand just like just coming up above the rim to stone down looking Mike It looks like a young young derrick. Rose Ish maybe Russ booed like with Ozzy with a better jump shot at this point in his career than either those guys had coming going in. And he's like I said he's been great. He's been fun to watch. And he's got his team in playoff contention which I mean as a rookie. There's not much more you could. You could ask for from him and like he's like I said lives with patients their highest petitions forum coming in and then obviously with no sign. I'm going to be a lot of eyes on him. I M seeing how he plays he's played above. And beyond as well as you could hope for at least at this at this point nine basing these workers just to see how they won that wicky and when and if that rookie wall it's because I know it's been that the big thing just to see because they're not used to play many games. I used to all the flights in the roaches association holds up but I mean he's the guy that that's been exceptional for the season I mean Josh for rookie. But just overall as as a player he's been great and Another rookie for another rookie. If you will that had been playing well have been tyler hero and Kendrick Nunn for that. He I mean we talk with them a little a little while ago just in terms of surprising this year with the heat being one of the one of the big surprises. I think what they're now I believe they're up to second in the believed the second in the in the ranking in understandings in in the east now yet yet they're up to second there are thirty one and thirteen one above one game ahead of the raptors at who are thirty and fourteen I mean opposite is seven half games on the bus which I mean the bucks are the best thing basketball so no shot at them. And I said the the he'd have been great she earned an apart- that obviously was the dishes Jimmy Butler but also has been the play of their younger players and I mean just think about hero that me. He's he's been A big issue for them. I mean just in this last game. Is that the rookie record for threes. In a game with seven I mean that other games with six and five this year so he's he's been great. He's been a key contributor for that team. I mean that's all you can hope for as a rookie. Just like have them come in and play and play big minutes and contribute new draft. These guys in the first draft you guys in the lottery you want them to come in and Adam to your team right away and he is and he's added that with. This is the three point shooting ability. Let me shoot and Ford percent for the year. which again his good for any player but it's exceptional for a rookie? Because you you think they wouldn't they wouldn't be able or they may not. All of them are always ready to. Ah Get off that good star as rookie. Just because like I said the defense is tougher the Gaza more athletic Gaza. More physical the lines before the backs that that affects some people but it hasn't affected him at all true and four percent. Eighty five percent from the free throw line Only forty one only four percent from the field so he could he could get his two point shots up a little bit But yeah he is. I mean Got Four four rebounds to assist game. He's he's been big he he has been like a a vital part of their team has has another rookie. Kendrick Nunn for them. I mean he's again he's another guy who's been That that's been a very big contributor at here is obviously much more much less not more much less healthy to guy. Why is he has he came? He was undrafted. Wound spent some time in G. League all that Fun Stuff you know. He's been he's now the guy that's ray stepped in played a big role for them Y-you second on the team in scoring the second in rookies as well with Sixteen point two points a game three and a half assists three rebounds. He's he's shooting. Four six percent from the field thirty thirty five thirty six percent from three eighty percent of the line. And he's a guy that's been authority started every game for the for the out here has been a guys. Come off the bench and cited. Some games SORTA started three games series mainly come off the bench. But it's been a guy that's been in there Since since the since the start of the season and he's and he's just settled into that into that role nicely as a starting next to launch. Jimmy Butler said Yeah. He's been Grayton is event that the play of him. The merchants of him has been a big part of the reason for the success. Because I know Josh was out for a while and they needed somebody to Kinda help. Fill that guard spot. And he's in he has been the guy would that was able to take the whole position down and now he's not not dog's name start anymore. He's he's coming off the bench because like I said he's been he's been playing so well it's like why would you. Why would you take him out? So yes those two guys in another guy who hasn't had the numbers whose whose numbers aren't as good as non hero but has has been playing better recently especially since he's been getting more playing time as rookie is Michael Porter. Jr. I mean he's a guy again who was a very very high. I think it was the number one prospect coming out of high school. I am somebody check that you you you can fact on that. Don't quote me. I'm not I'm not hundred central by no who is deaf one of the top prospects that Habsi. He had the injuries while he was at Missouri which causes a drop in the draft and then he sat are off Lashio from the looks from what it seems like encounter the some things I've read nice all was at actually negative. Were so good last year. They didn't really need them so like all right. There's no point of bring him in late into the season. Just the Tana at men But now he's playing any. He's playing pretty well. I mean he's not he hasn't been getting he hadn't been getting getting major major minutes To start the season but now if you look at some of his racing games visit getting more minutes I mean. He's he saw these seen big big upticks in production like saying So before they just lost the Houston the other night so his last the last four games while he's is getting all over twenty minutes a game multiple games with In like most games with twenty seven or more minutes and he's been he's been responding he's giving them In those games again nineteen eighteen. Ten and twenty had another game twenty five points season now the game of nineteen points this season So he's the guy that like if he can continue to add in team to showcase the skills that will had him ranked as the on one of the top players in country as it continues to Get more ministered the the nuggets. I mean. That's kind of really all they've been missing Small afford that Consistently score. I mean they have they have Yokich they have Murray Gary Harris had Palmos We'll barring Hedman good for them but it was like they needed kind of like that was only real. There's only the spot really were. They were kind of Do they didn't have a an above average player. Not again not take anything away from Will Will Barton or to recreate or anything like his. Yea We'll great shave averaging fifteen points a game but I'm just saying if Michael Porter Jr. can be a guy that can give them that that fifteen or twenty points a night. I mean that that team becomes even more scary than already. was I mean anytime time. Have a guy in yoga can basically or can be an walking triple double. I mean he's a senator leads the lead the team in assist which is unheard of. But I'm saying like they could be even better I mean they're they're at the four right now but they're only a game of the two seat only five and a half games back the Lakers as a whole. So if like if he if he shook his even more from the all-star break on Mike Mean this guy's limit for that team has no place where there's yeah no town where they can go on. Obviously this is great for them because they have a lot of their visas are pretty young like meals. The only older guy on their team. That gets a Lotta minutes. And we'll bar is not that young either but Like which is young Murray Zhang Gary Harrison Zhong Jeremy Grant is young a more young busies young. I mean promised that young either but he won't be around to too much longer again. Most of thirty eighty four and Barton is twenty nine like all like Yokich. Murray Harris grant a Moore's Beasley reported in all of these are in their twenties and like mid to early twenties too. So it's like a team could be set up to be one of the. I mean they've already been great. But I'm saying if Mike Afford Can Be that God. They drafted him to be. He's shown flashes of that this year in limited playing time and again like they seem to be willing to give him more and more playing time. Recently I know he'd he in play an Alaskan rockets which hurt but these guys in here. That's going to be. The key. Point is say healthy healthy. I mean like I said guys has limit I magazine where they can go and where can potentially end up this using and then in the future. But that's GonNa the knock on him coming into the league that's obscene gunman knock on him until he can dispel all that. Just the injury concerns and I think he was Alfred of back so we'll see we'll see how bad it was the Hammerstein misses. I said he's been great and overall Israeli reclassify been pretty good. Now we're getting Zion back so that means it's only it's only gonNA It's only going to increase from here in just in terms of what these guys has have done having done. And what they can showcase on a nightly basis so that'll be fun to fathers rookies throughout the rest of the season. So coming up after this next break. We are going to talk about a quarterback that announced his retirement is going enough. He's going to retire. So you guys guys will be hearing us on Friday so by then by the time us. I've managed compress cops in time. We may have already Happen but due to it that announcement that led to the con- The interesting question of is he in the hall of Famer. And I mean if you're drives fans easy if you're tainted tena is easy on both sides of this but this may be one of the toughest cases for a hall of fame career that we could have it in my have lasting effects on the hall of fame if if he gets in so talk about my opinion on that right after this break check out the show that's built on the from the UFC two extreme cage. Fighting they got fights covered. Check out the GMC M A podcast get the latest news on past or upcoming fights. Join us as we talked to in about some of the biggest names in the enemy past president future when it's the fight game there's just one showed checkout. GSM See podcasts Dot Com backslash Mame Dacha. PODCAST don't forget to like on facebook and follow them on twitter visit. GSM MCI PODCAST DOT COM for more INFO Take they we are back down as MC sports network. So He Li- manning I mean he has got to be He's got to have one of the most polarizing hall of fame cases cases. Are you ever. I mean at least from the time I've been watching football which lasts like twenty years. I can't I can't say much about the order case by now adjoining has got in and I mean look at his numbers but you know got it all more out to not gonNA sign him but I mean he's just an interesting case of what if you were like relatively I don't say average. That's not the right word. What if you like alright? Alright for most of your career except for the except for when your team needs to be all of Famer then you were all of famer. They got his regular season numbers. Like those of the big things record was one seventeen and won seventeen. I mean they're the chance he could have been under five hundred. They didn't give him that one last. Start for Dana came back. He looked at his yards Threw for four thousand yards will at one two three four five six seven seven times. Not Bad ed only threw for three touchdowns three times little shaky Men Out today interceptions. He had yet. What dubbed dubbed Interceptions every year? But this past year which I mean Bury Council's he played in four games and even then he said five sections and his rookie year when you only started seven games and he still had nine as every other year. He's had W he's had multiple seasons with over twenty interceptions seasons with over Fifteen interceptions but I mean you look at I mean Brett farve and he has a lot of interceptions too so his not like unwanted. Strictly hold There's extra stuff against them. I mean yeah like he has had one two three you for five six seasons with Twenty seconds then you only you only had to again. Only to single digit interception seasons in the one was was when he played in two games rookie in Atlanta and the other one were was ready. Goodyear with the Vikings where I think to the championship. Game mm-hmm yeah was and then yeah. He went he thirty seven. Thirty eight touchdowns seven interceptions Brett Farve. I mean different era. He started in the ninety s became more pass happy in the in the two thousands the now he has more pro bowls on that stuff but I mean it just in case of like if you look at the various season number like all right there cool nothing too special. I mean like I said only made four pro bowls. You could argue. That weren't ready that many years. Here's where he was within the top five his position. I Probably Think Twenty fifteen hobbies best case we had Four hundred yards thirty five touchdowns touchdowns fourteen interceptions. Probably his best case for having being top five is position. I think yeah yeah so interesting but it's just that like all right but then you go to the play offs and you would say in you look at it. He has eight playoff wins. What's good about? I mean in various in every other year he made the playoffs. They lost the first game. So That's interesting does how did he only major. How did he only managed to win? Too Busy won't manage to win playoffs in the playoffs house in two separate years and that's it every year of his career. He's played in twelve total playoff games. He's eighty four so he's made it. What so six times one two three? Yes six times four times on one done and then two times super bowl. I think when you look at that that's kind of where you have to That's kind of where it comes in if you look at. If you got those runs he he went on so the first one they beat Tampa In the first in the walk around and this is is this the first year he has a sixty this year so they bury snuck into the playoffs. They the on the road all these games there atom beat them then they play Tony Rome thirteen eighteen and three Dallas cowboys. I mean obviously a division opponent. But they're at home they. This was a really good team. Had like Te'o and also that this was a team that was supposed to close to beat the giants they. They weren't able to do that then. He goes into Green Bay in like freezing cold temperatures. Those the ball forty times. I mean only twenty one of forty four retired freezing cold temperatures Two hundred fifty yards wins that game in overtime you drive them drive down. The field set the Lawrence arms field goal and as we know what he did did innocent people will say oh the defense will not only seventeen fourteen blah blah blah. Yes the defense by great of course but I still had two touchdowns in that game including including the game winner Tabasco The helmet cash. Which I mean when you look at off encourage you need to have hall of fame moments mailing the ploughs? 'cause that's in that's where we're discussing death when it matters the most is like we always talk about how important super bowls are important. Rings are in sports and how people are judged by that except for when a guy that you don't really like that much gets one in the now you to try to rationalize like how we got it now he's not like this isn't like these years weren't I I just wasn't like Peyton Manning's last year in Denver where it was like. Clearly he was he was not what he once was and he kind of long for the rival defense. Gary no you'll have to go into hostile environments and play. Well well in these games in order for them to win I mean. I didn't talk about even Dallas Game He wanted he had What was it he he had two touchdown passes in that game? I think over on his two playoff runs in those two years. He threw fifteen touchdowns in twelve twelve. Nine even two interceptions. I mean that's great again. What you ask them quarterback when you get to the playoffs and then they would let him for talk? Talk about the the second playoff run and also you gotta remember that that I find that the Patriots came to this who eighteen now for the perfect season. He ended that people thought they were surefire superbowl champion. That year didn't happen on the next year. They didn't have to go on the road. Three Games Games only one on the road for two of the Games. They beat land twenty four to two in the first round then they went into Green Bay. Meet the fifteen in one packers with Aaron Rodgers probably It means a statistic. I mean record wise. Probably everybody's best team and he was great game twenty one of thirty three three hundred yards three touchdowns one interception outduelled Aaron Rodgers Primary Rogers. Then he goes on the road in San Francisco I mean was he aided by some muffed punt by Kyle Williams uh-huh yes but also in this game. He was just getting beat up. I mean he got sacked. What six times through ball almost sixty times Only at three hundred yards two touchdowns this another over time. She's won multiple games in the playoffs. In overtime. I mean again in game winning pass in this one but it was just north. Kick a field goal to give him the win. I think I'm pretty sure this one was set up by a muffed punt by Williams in overtime so I mean that nothing duty live but you eat so put his team in position to win the game and an OSCE going to the Super Bowl the Patriots again beat them again. Don't have the helmets time. You just have probably one of easy. The top those in the super bowl ever and then probably one of the top throws just in general all time into that. Mario Manningham sideline in the fourth quarter Because that's just like like it's a little bit to the left Goes out of balance is a little bit to the right. Probably gets you there if he gets mad at down or deflected or maybe even pick off and if he does any software dozen he doesn't get there it doesn't get there in time and it's deflected those any harder than he might overthrown so liberty like That ball was literally the only place you could play in that scenario again this fourth quarter super bowl. Oh big moments big time and he delivered say delivered twice and it's just one of those things where it's like once are you. You can call it a fluke make you. We've seen JOE FLACCO GONNA magical run when the Super Bowl we've seen nick foles on a magical run win a super bowl using Trent dilfer want us to always pay manning's lashing she wanted to blow. We've seen subpar quarterbacks when super bowls before look twice and was a blondie people at times like in the now you can't call it a fluke in my opinion and now some people are like. Oh He's just Joe flacco of Joe FLACCO. Did it again or like say Nick. foles comes back and wants to know the Super Bowl. Then he basically manning's career and do both those things I will say one needs the Joe FLACCO. I mean you never know but as as of this moment right now joe flacco is not one super bowl since he won it back in like twenty twelve somewhere around the early twenty tens and the Nicole is just spent this year getting being benched for a rookie and now now now like alive benched where it was like is this is probably going to be slash regarding this is they. They went on payday. Falls big money to be the starter that it didn't work out so and also Nikoloz never started seeing never been A Minnesota solder for prolonged period of time on any team. He's been on. What is the Rams Chiefs Eagles? Jaguars everybody's gone. I visit anywhere. He's on that wasn't the eagles. He hasn't been great and then he's been with the eagles. He's only been great for short periods of time. The he had the one season twenty seven and and two year led the not his fault folded losing the house in the first round on the next year he was kind of injured. And all you end up getting injured trading him play all sixteen games now super bowl year. he he wasn't that great the last three games. This season then was good for the Vikings and patriots game and he was all right in the Falcons game. I mean if Kano Neil catches the ball that that is a gigantic teachable. Disney tried schedule with his hands with his chest. Then look nick foles entirely differently. So I'm saying is it easy for again when you think about the places like basically you have to play good football for like Max four-game so it was like a month a month. You have to play really. Well can mediocre quarterbacks get hot and play well for for for four games. Yes Romeo Court. Don't do that twice. That's my only thing they don't do it twice and and also win super bowl. MVP Who Bush twice. I think he's one of what I believe. Five guys to do the other four. Are Tom Brady Joe Montana Terry. Bradshaw Bart saw. Aw guys that are that are in the hall of fame or in Tom. Brady's case are going to be in the hall of fame and then obviously in kind of stands out in that in that group. But it's like our this is rarefied air to be able to do this and I'm not like a big. I'm not necessarily a big guy. Never thought it was really that good. I'm not really the big giants got budgets. Just that like when when you think the hall of fame is supposed to be signified. The memorable moment memorable players worried like if you take them out of history of the. NFL is something missing and whether people like it or not if you take our meeting in the giant seems out of the history of the NFL Valdan. There is something missing because they were the up until two thousand eighteen. They were the first and only team to beat the Patriots in the Super Super Bowl. An now see the Nick foles. Doing that Kinda hurts that links. The a little bit but again. I guess you'd say he's almost done it twice. He's going to have beaten Brady twice inner superbowl hard to be greedy twice ever in over the course of his career. I mean Payton Manning as you saw struggled with that in the playoffs and alighted twice on the biggest your stage against argue the best. The best quarterback ever the best coach ever The Best Dynasty in history of the sport like. That's it's not. It's not an easy thing to do. And that's something he was able to do so you have to give him some level of credit for that and I think that credit will be him making it into the hall of fame now. This is because we talked about the hall of fame in how I feel about the way the road crosses done do like. That's the weird thing is he like like A. I felt like no doubt Hall of Famer. No that's why. Why he she pie won't get down about naming people like him so he actually might but it's just like the weird scenario where are are like? How long does he does? He have to wait to get in because again his numbers are going to change. Numbers probably only going to drop down. I know he's top. Ten Yard touchdown passes by by by the time he's he's eligible for fame he might be in further down. This guys like Matt Ryan and Matt Stafford and a couple of other guys those to finish out their career. Maybe even like a Philip rivers where he ends up over his career here where he is he out on the way that right now on the list. But he like my Matt Ryan Mess for those kind of couple those air rogers like those kinda order quarterbacks that are past that and nightmare drop his staff down a little bit not to be interesting to see but at the same time. It's hard for me to take a guys won. Two super bowls went to super. MVP's did not put him in the hall of fame and again and memorable moments both of those and in one of those beaten the greatest team arguably ever the deputy the greatest dynasty of the last half century in football maybe in all sports the greatest coach greatest quarterback in all sports in solvable. I mean against I would Where you make a song of argument form as against them now? I need to hear your argument against the for why you're GonNa Liam out. But I'm saying if it were so easy for me okay quarterbacks to do what he has done the more money or quarterbacks would have two super bowls with two superbowl. WBZ In my opinion. You look at Gaza Aaron Rodgers who are great and have only been to one super bowl ever in their entire career. You got paid in how long it took him just to even get to the first one how long it took him to get back to another one drew brees never been to one. Never been to a second one. So yes if it were so easy for people to go and win two super bowls into suitable. MVP's and more great quarterbacks would have that. That's why I was only five. Players is only five core by ever won multiple Super Bowl. MVP's does not that easy and he has one of them. I think just one of those things where it's you Kinda have to give him credit for that but allows retirement may start off a off season with that could feature a lot of quarterback movement whether that's retirements vitamins. Or that's quarterback switching teams with US quarterbacking traded. What have you is? There's a lot. There's a lot of uncertain quarterback situations around the League uh-huh coming up this off season and we'll talk about some of those rafters breaking. Are you looking for help your fantasy football team check out the GSM see fantasy football. PODCAST get today's best advice on who to start who to sit even who who. You should draft from sleeper peixe. Red Hot LINEUPS. They got it all covered for you. That's GMC PODCAST DOT COM back slash fantasy dash football dash cash podcasts. We'll cover traditionally dynasty few PR. Even I impede leaks when you need fantasy help. There's just one show to hit up. Don't forget to like on facebook facebook and follow them on twitter visit. GS MC PODCAST DOT COM for more INFO. Yeah it s by Pepsi some now if we take a look around like I said there's nothing retirement so darn situation squared away. You don't gotTa Auto Damned owns. took his spot already so we knew it was going to be a starter. But we didn't know maybe I'll be back. Maybe he'll go somewhere else and be a quarterback that's not going to happen so he's just going to. I'm out of the game gracefully But that does I mean that was not the only unknown. The that was the only quarterback in with respect GONNA set sail potentially have this off season. I mean I'm going to take a Grand old look around the league and and you can just see the uncertainty at the quarterback position across all divisions in both conferences. I mean case in point number one the Patriots now. Tom Brady sounds come back. I know craft wants to bring him back. We'll see how badly BELZEC wants to bring him back. As obviously I mean it wasn't necessarily his fault because the receivers weren't that great but Tom now got his normal pro bowl. Best quarterback in the league self or one of the best quarterbacks in the league south the this past pass season so admission see how does bow checking craft handle that and then if they do in fact show him the door where does he end up because because they are a lot of teams that attempts to use the services of one. Tom Brady so the Patriots. Just one example. The Dolphins asking that same division who Could be an option. I know It'll be interesting to see if they I know they are Dave. Unfortunately I mean that they try to thinking hang thing. They want to many games in order. Tank for Joe Borough but I mean I know that this might. They liked to before the season and as he's still going to be available this year of just ozzy with The injury more more injury concerns if you will be interesting to see how they feel about him and if they end up they end up staying at five five. They're staying there and drafting him off. TRY TO TRADE UP TO NUMBER ONE and get a job though done talk the Bengals GonNa Trade that taking if I'm them. I understand why I mean this is a completely different segment when we talk about another day. But I'm a believer of get the quarterback. I understand like you kind of want to build a team before we get the quarterback but as a quarterback you believe is better than everyone else else. There's no reason to pass up on that. Just to get more draft. Picks that as good as they have more shots. I mean more ladder tickets if you will. There's just as much anthony. You're GONNA miss on more players as opposed lease if you miss on the quarterback quarterback. He missed almost three picks. You Miss Loan through the now. So you've seen in the past years. Teams traded up The draft halls a team. We've gotten back from those picks and tons of the place of the picking have necessarily been that great so I would stance in legacy. You've got dolphins they can do. I know are filled verbs is moving his family down Florida to be closer closer to his extended family. As I've mentioned if they are they're going to want to have you've to sit for a year I bring maybe bring. NFL Verbiage on a one year deal The little stopgap situation knows Going going through the AFC more. You got the raiders and then moving to Vegas is Derek Carr going to be the face of the franchise in Las Megan. He could be but no one knows. Jon Gruden fields and obviously they didn't have the greatest season finished seven to nine on. The chargers seems like they're going going to move on from fell up and that's a team. That has been rumored. Never I mean just spectator speculated. Not Want to save rumored but the new secular about that could be one of the teams. Tom Brady go to do. They have a lot of pieces Around the recognition. They kind of struggled to see her. Mainly because of overs was throwing a lot of interceptions So if Brady one to leave to go to a team that can self contained matthew team up there You go through the AFC north. Now you got the steelers dealers who knows who knows what they're gonNa do a big band. I mean I imagine trying to come back but who knows if he'll ever be right. I mean the elbows are weird thing to task just because it's very important throwing so if that elbows right then he may have to use it out more time retire than if he doesn't sit out do Do the the draft to court. I mean they came. That's record around. I could. They traded for Minka which Farah good good trade but still I mean that's the only thing they're missing quarterback and I'm thinking day can you can't go into next year with with uncertainty a big Ben in just Mason Rudolph. God got they did. Let did this past year didn't work so you need to do something else. So like is that draft trade. That'd be entering the bengals obviously With what they're GONNA do there. We think they're going draft. Joe Borough we don't really know the banks are GONNA do. I mean it would make sense. He's from Ohio Ohio before he went to Lsu Cincinnati's in Ohio. So that would connection to so many connections there and the number one fixed they don't have to worry about trading up or going up to get him you can baking stay where they are and draft them. That's another team that. Could that's going to have new quarterback whether it's whether it's job or are they trained back and get to our and Justin Herbert or like join Jacobson somebody. I don't know they're having new new quarterback and then also that leaves any dawn. Whether GonNa do it aimed Indonesian account him other trade him. Is he going to be like a backup somewhere. He's going to go somewhere and be like a stopgap starter I don't know and then you got the AFC south where you have three teams outside of the Texans. They could have interesting. QUARTERBACKS NARROWS OSCE with the Titans they were just in the AFC championship game with mine. Tannehill now can they do that again. With Ryan Tannehill. I Dunno only. Maybe they believe they can. I'm not saying they can't again. I got this far but I mean this kind of sort of no I don't I was gonna say it feels like the. The Jaguars Situation Blake Bortles. But Tanner played a lot better than Blake bortles then Though if the playoff games board that she had the really good game against the steelers on a divisional round and so but in the in the various season ten was better than Bortles was but also Bona's then maybe if anything that would have been rookie not even work year for that no second year for the second day so and now Z.. The End Dennis had derrick. Henry who's a free agent so we'll have to bring him back but yeah Amerson receives or do they give them a two year three year deal with some some chance to get out of the deal. If he's not that good that you just franchise tag him Do you give them a full five-year extension for not. He's not going to get top line quarterback money because mahomes getting section this year and getting session this year so ninety and that kind of money but he's doing it something if you get the big extension and got Mariota who leaves you. So many people believe he's still can be a starter. So where did he end. Where does he end up on that of interesting the colts with I mean obviously the interrupting cotton surprising Out The you're good but kinda taper off towards the end so there's no certainty that he's there. Are Sheriff our answer there in Indianapolis. Maybe they drive their team address quarterback quarterback on when he got the Jaguars who again pay big money for foles and Go with Menchu Tamasese out and they have have a new offense coordinator Now they hired Jay gruden still got doug marrone but just new offense coordinator. We don't know which quarterback Jay gruden legs I mean Jay Bruins designed good offenses for Andy Dalton and cousins over his career and we got given the had Washington in the lead for the NFC east before has met guy her last year. So you know. It's a little bit offense at Michigan. See who they go with. If they trade foolish they keep foles and then have mentioned the backwards have them fight it out and then if whoever wins if maybe fold. I don't know there's a lot of money so it'd be interesting to have him back there switching over to the NFC now the DAX situation with In terms of I don't think he's going to officially hit free agency but he is a free agent or is going to be a free agent the cowboys. Whatever reason didn't get a deal done and now it's interesting because he just had a great year into the playoffs but added grace fiscal year annual and have guys like like? I said Mahomed Shawn Watson Getting Cartridge essentially this year. I'll say he's not going to give money. He knows that that level and everybody knows that but I I mean you could argue. He's at Shawn Watson love. I mean they both won. What one playoff game in their careers? They both men's basketball time both on division. A couple of times been yard. Song is in his class. Gerry Goffin Carson. Wentz already got paid. So he's going to at least one more than that. And it is ozzy with most new deals. They just get more and more money than he's totally free. So it's not even have like with you with the With guys like mahomes are dishonored golf and went there in the context. Early DAX GONNA be. He's a free agent so now and if you don't give them something friends asking them. What kind of missions is that sand? Because now you're saying you still don't believe him after you had based on a one year proven bill this year for nothing nine give him another one. Year proved a deal and then so that looks a little iffy in terms of their commitment to him at the quarterback position for that team Washington's the team's new new head coach in office coordinator. We'll see if this could be a Josh Rosen situation. All over again how much they actually believe past and I think that probably keep him but you never know No I'm C. West. Everybody is Saad even though depending on how you feel about Jared Goff that could I mean he's going to be the extension but like if he has another the bad season they're gonNA they're gonNA be needing a new quarterback soon The lions I mean mass efforts there but rumblings about how serious back injury is and then if that's that's the case then Eremita draft a quarterback whether it's like I said they might be in the Just in Herbert Jordan Love Jacob beason kind of situation nation. I don't I don't think jake farms that good. But they can pick him to make me team is looking for a quarterback Three or maybe even shoot they there at three they could get to if they wanted wanted to if I mean you can't have too injury prone. Uganda have two hundred quarterbacks in her. I mean maybe you can just lines. They don't they do things that sometimes don't make sense. I mean all teams doing. I'm not just going to pick on the lines but you now lines But yeah that'd be interesting to see if Maybe even pick too 'cause like I said they'll McNair be positioned to Washington's popular On a pick him or they can trade back for if somebody wants to pick them and then get a hall graphics by said they could need new quarterback. The mayor's on the salary they're sticking with Mitch but many Bay Miss Since I've expressed they're not that happy about that because again it could have haddish Shawn Watson could ahead patching homes and they haven't either now which is unfortunate for you bears fans. I'm sorry out there for you But Yeah I mean Mitch is going to what year four hundred GonNa get an extension. Probably not going to get the fifth year option picked up so see to bring in like Mariota Biota do they bring in a cam to bring in a nick foles Teddy Bridgewater to compete with him for the job. I can be shocked. They give Mr job outright. They're going to bring somebody in the compete with with him. But who interesting see where that goes then. Speaking of Teddy Bridgewater Saints have Teddy N. Andrew Breeze a free agents. This year I mean drew brees. If he's going to he's going to come back he's going to be there so that may not be that much moving but then you don't have you decided to retire may be wants to move on somewhere. Maybe Sean Payton's like I think we've seen the best from you. Maybe he wants to roll with Teddy Bridgewater coming. They were five and old this year with him as a starter. They lost the first game he came in against the rams they know so we have a Lotta facing tastes. A lot of faith in tasted hill. I don't I don't know Sean. Payton thanks Sean. Payton things uh-huh after team got Falcons with Matt Ryan. They could be looking for a new quarterbacks Not Getting younger I think he's like thirty five Ask the team struggled the past couple of years so they have more bad season and probably going to start to think about moving on from there if they haven't already already if they haven't already started to do use out on then you got the box James who put up gaudy numbers but also through thirty picks and had many other than a lot of fumbles. So you can't you can't win football games like that were quarterbacks turning the ball over and alarming rate and don't turn the ball over more than genius really so it's like what do you do with them. You give him another one year deal. You franchise him traff life because he again put up great numbers but the turnovers are only gotten worse. which is you would think it'd be reverse like as you get more? Get more time to leave. He would get better. Hasn't happened yet. But that we see what they do with him. And then the in in the panthers I mean when we are talking about Cam Newton's come off in very they have the old. LSU passing coordinators as receivers coach as their office coordinator. Now Have A. Keiko came from college here. He's he seems college quarterbacks he may have guys that he likes guys he he because he might have ion could end again. No one really knows a healthy cams to be so you can't as bank on him coming back and being healthy so like. Do they draft a quarterback today trae a four quarterback. I mean you could argue at almost I mean feeling viscount through the teams. I mean I'm going to take out the saints in the Patriots. Just because as of right now now. I think both their quarterbacks saved a team but you're GONNA look at one two debris and a possible possible possible possible in Titan's got DAK stay in Lines possible bears. Possible Falcons gonNA assessor logs possible like you have at least twelve teams. That have question marks on what they can do with quarterback position coming into offseason which is unheard of a Mo- seems most like argued the bad teams and the other couple teams the whole quarterback visual. But there's like legitimately like interview. I mean especially if you include the saints in an An igloo Saints Titans and Patriots. In that there's more teams of uncertainty on not isn't necessarily who's going to be there just what they're gonNA do with him. Are they gonNA give them a big deal. Like Tom Brady. Drew brees days. Give them one when you do. Give them a three year. Deal Sam Tannehill Franchise James Do Franchise him like a lot of question marks in obedience to see how it all plays out out Do I mean as unfortunate. NFL SEASON's coming to an end. That mean draft season is soon to be upon us. It's awesome the soon to be honest. And that means free agency soon to be honest and then have all kinds of juicy stuff coming out. So it'll be interesting. I think the quarterback movement off senior something we will have to keep our eyes on just just because it may be one of the most interesting storyline of the entire end philosophies them but yeah so speaking of the the draft I mean speaking of the end of the NFL season. That means drafts coming up which is coming up. But there's an event that happens before the combine that took place this week that I think is even more important than the draft. Combine some scouts and executives may agree with that. Don't tell you what that was and why I think it's maybe more important than the draft and more important than the combine breath is breaks. Are you looking to get your college football next looking to get the latest news on your favorite school team. The diaw Empty College football podcast is your ticket to all things college football to join us as we talk college. All is bill from the National Championship. The college rivalries the bowl game to the heisman trophy so which converts is the best. We've got you covered for the big ten as as these the big twelve the PAC twelve. ABC and everything in between download the GMC college football podcast on Itunes stitcher. It sounds loud. Google play or anywhere you find podcasts just type. GS instilled in the search bar and uh-huh it took me are ferial emcees the Katherine by G. S MC podcast network. So the event I'm talking about if you don't know where you don't call follow in college. Football as much is the senior bowl week and the reason why I like Vanya why it's I feel like it's important just because is different than the combat in that it's not just shorts and teach. It's not like the underwear Olympics. Some people call them where you're not you're not gonNA see people run through like go through their forties Against Air like it's people doing things against other football players and I guess I that gives you a good idea of how this I was gonNA matchup. 'cause in theory usually guys are going to be having to play against at the next level. Could I mean I mean the one thing that Neka Nick on a distraction is the fact that it is only senior. So it's not so don't include like some of the great on underclassmen of coming out this year but still there are enough good seniors coming out out to where they they always fill up this game at high profile guys out there and this. This is a good a good showcase for a multitude reasonable one of them because it allows allows smaller school guys to showcase they can handle playing with the big boys like in past years they've had guys like Carson. I once went through this when he when he was a senior AM NASTY Opposite he has his own. Draft Selections Skyrocket Iraq. Than I was in the US ended up trading up for to get to The senior bowl though Though is a he went to played. Sec Eh power five conference but he played at Mississippi state which isn't necessarily known as a football powerhouse. Say but senior bowl where the cameras got to see him. Watch him up close gift. nome ended up being beneficial for them ended up for being able to draft him. Although I would like to point out that they tried to trade up four war Paxton Lynch and Connor Cook in that same draft. If you've if you've ever points out there before they ended up getting on DAX less not give them to too much credit for that but also he showed himself want to have at least to at least be on the cowboys radar during this week in the now. See other stuff Aftermath what is different showcase for that. I mean it gives Gaza may be had. who were a little lower on the production scale during there years like company is that kind of really uses game to help boost their draft stock Dana Jones I mean he was guy who some people had ranked high I by mean other people thought he was going to be like a second round. Pick and great second round pick and then this The senior bowl week is when Dave gettleman ops. You've seen being because I think he had talked about how he will never be able to many games which I mean fair enough. I understand dukes again. Not a big a big football school. So so you're going to see other high-profiled prospects as well as the gonNA spend a weekend. Do much you're going to see them. Play Clemson or somebody To Wash on the cups in player so he hadn't he hadn't unseen Up Close and personal senior bowl week. They would talk communicate with come see the way. He interacts with other players in the hall will be able to interview and stuff like that. And that's obviously where they must in love with him and then you see you have gathered them at sexy look pretty good this year. guys like tear corn. who had a great rookie year? But kind of didn't the have the big Gaudy stats that That some of the other receivers coming out had but he was a guy who showed up in the senior bowl week showed out an OSCE helped boost his draft stock. You see him continuing shout Do out of rookie year coming off. See he had. Some had had cycle do different quarterbacks at some injuries but like he was a great records even when he was out there. deebo Samuel Hui playing in the Super Bowl and now the guy who we had a great weekend senior bowl and get some. I think it's an injury concerns coming. In and then out against Carolina Corp Exhibition was a little hit or miss. But did this. This was a week firmness showcase his billion. I remember reading up on me was killing it that week. Then ABC's translated over to The NFL NEPAD visited drafts. I Globe got him on the ninth radar. The now's picked them when they really use awesome rate. Montas sweat was I. Remember who at a Mississippi Mississippi state as well oddly a couple of years after Dagmar compatriots Mississippi State and He was a guy that I remember. Just seeing clips of him distant dominating people during the Senior bowl yet mister I remember seeing him just dominate people during the they're on the different class at UC posted up on social media During his senior bowl week and he was a guy who who was who was good in cars last year As a senior last couple of years actually not say that the after. He transferred from Michigan say to Mississippi State last couple years but he wasn't like a big highly regarded prospect back until is at twenty eighteen years. I in America and announced he was able to come to this show out and then that was able to get him even in higher than the combine stuff with the with forty dollars And then see us those four guys. I think this is just this kind of the kind of weak is better than the combat. Why people think is better than the combine is just because this is not necessarily the football you trained for football but when you're going up when the doing the one on ones with the opposite line of Or they're doing the one on ones corners receivers or safeties tight ends or riding bikes linebacker stuff like that like there are so many dude you can do to prepare against going up against one on one against another. NFL caliber player. That you can train to get a better forty times. You can train dwell shadow. You can train them to do well on your vertical The the different drill. They may put you through to work on the throws or whatever but there's only so much you can do in order for football and when you gotta go man not man I mean. Obviously it's not. It's not full on eleven till the games but like the different drills one on ones Names him seven on seven some team stuff. There's no special workouts Training regimen you can go through to to put that to go To be ready for that. That is good that it's nice to be able to go model Mono Gallon Guy Kinda see Kanzi Howard by handles and see how smallest laws play big. We'll see how they are school. Guys plaguing saw the biggest fool guys like. Maybe I mean you when you go to a top school. You're only playing so many great teams like a couple year in theory. So so then you have a chance on. Even if you're a guy who wasn't utilized maybe properly during a cadre showcase like hey I can do this. I can do that and I mean that's that's the Claes this year. I mean you see you guys. I mean some of the guys that have had their lose their draft up a little bit from from the article. Another for DOT com. You have guys like I'M K J Hill. Who could be this year's terrible Corner House Guy who didn't have gaudy numbers his last year but as come to the senior bowl in in in had a great week you have A defensive tackle in Japan can law from South Carolina. Who even though he's he's I mean? Listen thing where the game doesn't matter as much as the week of leading up to practice again you're playing with guys. Never really played with his only giving miscommunication is going to be errors during the games but the drills loves. Where can we showcase your skills? And he's a guy who was dominating drilled nominee in the office alarming even though left an injury. He's he's a guy that's boosted his draft stock up a week-long the knee injury is not serious You have Another often linemen Josh Jones and he against Houston. Who is he is maybe a smaller school guy but is going up against Power five pass rushers defensive ends edges stuff like that. And he's using over showcase himself Well different guys like like no mission has guy in shape believe a pass rusher on the edge who's against them do some often coverage to cover a tight ends and stuff wanna one in drills Shuki something maybe. He didn't have to do that much in Michigan to see like. Hey I can do this to show off your versatility and stuff and then another big. Everything's another snares allows the smallest growls. I know there's a tight end out of Dayton atom trotman. I believe who nauseating liking like I said played at Dayton. So he didn't have he was planning is the highest level competition. But he's still put up nine hundred yards working touchdowns this past season so he can come to this and showcase like hey. I'm just as good as any other as any other Tighter Out there the timing prospect out there in sounds. He's had a good week. I know the bears looking for Tynan Solano. They've there's no matter reports talking to him Other receivers there's like A. who was the deliberately guard? And I think what's name Antonio Gold the Antonio Guidi Golden Again Liberty Guy who has Guardian numbers put up fourteen hundred yards ten touchdowns this season again at liberty but This is a big week for him to be a showcase. Like Hey I can run. I'm not as dominating small Coptic optus can. I can play with the big boys. That's why let the senior bowl more than or that's why I think more people like the super bowl in the draft combine. Just because it's not it's not it's much guys going through drills. Were passing runarounds against air you going against other. NFL caliber guys We're all competing for for for a spot in the league. Just like you are so they're all hungry. They're all willing to prove in your chance to showcase your skills and then this is can get you on the radar so when we come back the combine another big thing for their dad. Just the is the first weight measurement that these guys have you found cutting into all seasons. You can see from here. You see you know how tall short guys are and how much a way you can see our this guy work on his during training for the comedy lose weight. Did you gain weight stuff like that and also you when proteins are just. I mean. They're even more calm. Because it's it's you're in a comfortable setting you're throwing Uber's you know and stuff like that again is not. It's that's insurance is in a t shirt unless you WANNA do. I think who I know John is out that is in shoulder. I believe I think Baker might have did his more quarterbacks there's there which Which I mean you should you? You don't though in a teacher but yeah senior. Bowl is a is a week in is an event that isn't as hailed as much as the draft combine. But I think in you could argue if you listen to certain draft scouts and executives and stuff. They honestly believe it's more important. The combine is because like I said men people just view cameras as glorified underwear Olympics so as we can though. If you're not doing anything on Saturday yeah I think the game itself is being played on Saturday so you can watch that see some people your. NFL team may soon be drafting. But even just in the future. Just keep an eye offers because as you can see you can see sometimes success. The team will translate into the NFL. Like I said with the Samuel. Monday's not Montas this way on Danny Jones Carson wentz on Dak Prescott other guys do the years that have been on the senior bowl gone to have good careers in the NFL. You can start to see the beginnings of that at the senior bowl so this is a. This is an event that you watch. I assume you keep watching. May I invent that isn't necessarily on your radar. Maybe you can find them tuning. It's like the last week. It's one last week in January every year. I think I've read before the better for the pro bowl so you keep out on it for next year and then like I said you can season season guys. And maybe you didn't know about before such pop on your radar and then tonight surprising team drafts them. So that's that's interesting Debate does a C which one's more important but unlike speaking of debates the NBA switching gears. The nose for the NBA All star teams. Who all stars? Also starters were released tonight this being Thursday night and there were some people that were put on some people. I left out. That has some people people questioning some things. So we'll talk about who stars were on eastern Western in. How in how I think they did and how I think everybody? The voting went with the teams teams. And also the voting how the go with some of the reserves right after this break check out this built around the women from the UFC INVICTA F- steep tour championship. We got the fights cover. It's the Golden. I'm in state media concepts. Women's May podcast. The latest news of committee fights discussions of previous matches. Join us as we talk to win about the biggest names in women's mixed martial arts past present and future when it's the women's fight game you know to listen to the golden state media concepts women's MMA podcast uh-huh and in that year caster. So like I said if you didn't know the NBA also started released tonight. Being Thursday the reserves will officially be released. I think next Thursday. I'm pretty sure so. We'll see the team in another team in full by next Friday. But after the starters the for the West it was the Brown was the team. Captain Davis Kawhi Leonard. Luca End James Harden now the my opinion on outside the Guy Right. I mean interesting because he missed some time but then we look at the other. The other four is out there though I mean just depends. Luca is a small for that plays point guard zone. You're going to have to view him as a guard. He was voted in. He was voted in as a guard. So that's kind of why. You gotTA sneak Hawaiian their mother than that. I mean I think it makes sense the Bron- no doubt Anthony Davis no doubt Luca no-doubt James Harden no-doubt even those Kinda struggled recently is still leading point scorer in like important game. I believe with thirty seven. I think he's still at right now. So he makes total sense that when Did that all make sense but the interesting ones to me are are and this is again. I talked about this before how the fan voting for the also a game. How needs to be taken more seriously? And how people don't taken serious so you look at a guy like Devon Booker where you can legally devoting results bow than the list The Fan rank like where they reckon. The fan voting player voting media voting and then their way dischord is kind of like once we average average amount like where they where they end up. So you've got a guy like Devon Booker who is six in the guards within way to score of six point now but but so if you think I'm GonNa get to his fan rank in a second but in his player rank and in the Minya rang he's he's he's in the top four for guards and rightfully so I mean Again we'll get to in a second in how they decided to break the the media the media and the players I devote for that one but Devon Booker is having a great seasons averaging twenty six six assists nine four rebounds. I mean again not necessarily his fault than some stink but again they do so I think people are holding it against the fans That against them but I mean he's having I mean you could argue. He could have been also the last three years whereas averaged twenty four point nine twenty six point six hundred twenty six point five this year and he's up in Lafayette six assists. Two six point three shooting ninety eight percent from the free throw line this year. Thirty six percent from three thirty percent from the field and he might not make it because of the fan vote keys you know where he ranked in the fan vote eighth. You know why it happened. 'CAUSE you're voting for guys like ask Russo again. This is why I said this. Why had the issue with the FAN voting I? I mean we'll get to the players in the second they don't get right all the time. Either voting in these also games just all Konak but the fans took the vote more seriously than more people would have voted for Devon Kim book as opposed to voting for asked Rousseau and he wouldn't have ranked eighth in the fan voting. Because there's no reason he's not the eighth best garden we like. He's should be much higher than and let me ask doesn't even end up making on the finalists because again you shouldn't I think he was at least in the top and others. I think it was like editor at summit. That for the fan vote is just like you miss it up for guys even Donovan Mitchell who been great and has helped the jazz get up to the second the second see now in the West. He was stabbed in the fan voting because again they just have to vote for Oscar. Show for what we in Stafford at. Maddox Steph was sixth. Nassar Problem Yeah I think Roussel's fourth in the fan vote lace. It's de both those guys are were never gonNA play awesome amounts. He stuff goes announcers because I mean in France damage is not an all star but those votes in those teams people voting for those guys hurt guys like Devon Booker the Donald Metros of the world who miss out on a spot buy one my will may miss out on a reserve spot by one one player so just because they are. They're fan vote wasn't high enough to get them a better way to like. I said Devon Devon Booker. He's fourth player. Vote in fourth in the media vote. We'll talk with a lot of guys in media. which is I don't know how that works on that front court guys it's more? It's there's actually a romantic in whatever. He's four hundred player. Vote some as weighted score would be a lot better if he wasn't so low in the fan vote again. That's why then then we need to strip fans of their power But yeah though there's no one really I think That should be on the list. That's off though another interesting one. Home was Karl Anthony towns. Who I know? He's been hurt a little bit but again that guys like hiree who like. I said we'll get to the east in a second but Ease Guy who frank. I think knife in the Iraq igniting the fan vote Turkington the player vote in eighth in the media. Rankings that is. He's he's missed some games. But I mean Kawais Games false allegations these averaging twenty six eleven four and again through the wolves are good right now not at all. But that's awesome awesome you can you can worry about records and stuff for MVP all MBA teams. Whatever fan also a game just the best players you every time the best is no matter how good they are being like? I said didn't hurt off to the east. It didn't hurt trae young. The hawks were one of the worst team in the league. He was voted when I was a starter you could argue should have been. Maybe maybe not. But he's a great year he's top five points in a thanks Ivan completely fine within making it in as all-star starter order because it's not about the record all right is the is the team bad. Yes but that's not his fault is he's done. Who's doing on his best? He's doing everything he can try to get them. Some wins and there. There are many games. I've watched were just like he'll be the only one being able to sworn everyone else will just be doing. I just want to be able to hit shots. And then you're wondering why they're not winning games so as he was one of the stars on Cambo was not those not surprised but like I said the the car situation see how that went The yes he wasn't an Janas. Who's the captain Joel Embiid? CRM WHO I know some people were mad about Jimmy Butler not making it and I can understand it because SIAKA embiid boldness time this year and Jimmy Butler has this team in the top four seat in the east but I mean people forget how good night before he got hurt he was a legitimate. MVP candidate and honesty. When I know the sixers beat upside down this year but you could argue that NBA is the best big man when he's healthy the qualifying when he's healthy is a big thing and also in fairness to Siachen. He's numbers a little bit better. He is more points. He's having twenty points to Jimmy Butler twenties after seeing seven point seven rebounds to Jimmy Savon having an OSCE. He says he's at six point five. Jack Emily has three. He's played in five more games. which isn't even that much? I thought it was going to be a lot more than that. Not only pay five more games like I said Siachen was legitimate all. MVP candidate before the first month and plus of the season. So I'm not mad at them giving it to Siachen though I also make the team bracket see why some people weren't happy by Jimmy now making it but then again get back to the bachelor fans For their voting in the way that they don't take it seriously but the player voting for the guards was absurd. I mean they add they have Bradley. Beal ranked second of all guards ahead of tree on head of Ben. Simmons said of Kerry Fair head. Zach Levine. Had A kyle lowry and the media has in fifth again ahead is act being in a spot below And Kyrie in spot below carlisle. Riano people apparently that high normalcy. I mean Colorado's a great player but he's not the All Star game type of player. You'd want to see like you. You WanNa see like Ben Simmons. Zach Zach Levine even like derrick rose. Maybe an awesome game kyle. He's been great he's he got his range. He's got his all star Games. This might not be the one frame. That'd be awesome so back to what I was so the player rankings. How like in what world is Bradley? Build a second best guard in the league like it is it was observer saw so like all right it's a barely bills Gracie as lemme not. I'm not trying to bash them. Twenty seven point five points points per game. Four point six rebounds six point three assists but shooting wise shooting forty four percent thirty one percent from three shooting almost eight three is a game not ideal Initial okay should eight four percent from the field. I missed from the free throw by. You said that that that three percents for God's generally pretty good is lowest year before that was thirty five percent he'd had three years has over forty percent from three downs shooting year in announcing. And he's on a bad team which didn't hurt him. But then if you look at a guy like Zack Mark Levin who's who the games played in in Chicago. He's averaging twenty five points. Four point seven rebounds three point eight assists this year As a league. I in his team's better than the better than the wizards and he shooting a three percent from from the free throw line thirty nine percent from three shooting the same amount of attempts that Bradley beal has in seven point. Nine in forty forty four forty five percent from the the field. Some say how in the world is in an trae young numbers for fun. he's having twenty nine points in eight points and eight point. Six Says and four percent rebounds in again does his team am stank. Yes but that's not his fault But yeah in what world is Bradley Bills Having a very good year on a team. That's not right. I agree but like how in the world like who does any again. He's offers harmless Kemba. which again he should be camel but as I am I missing something? Maybe I'm missing something. You can tell me something. The thing is Bradley building that good this year. In which the second best guard and hasn't -nificant the upping his weighted score. He was ninth in the Fan. Vote which understandable the legacy Get the how in the world that the players vote to have him Tim second the guards that was the that was one of the biggest shocks to me was Bradley. Beal have got a player raking that and I mean again. Dan Players can't watch all the games. They're playing games and like the media had a more reasonable at five where he might be like five or six but I was having ranked the head of Ben Simmons like I said Larry trae young Rosiak Levine's microbes like whoa okay. That kind of caught me off guard. I don't know if he'll make it in and I mean I saw that's acclimated should should make an even though. Ben Simmons is a little bit low and I'm just like again that's the nest. The Fan vote so they voted for his also games is kind of shoddy. But the starters are out you can. You can talk to me about if you. I think anybody got snubbed. Or who you think may get stuff from the team eventually. Could I think there's GonNa be some tight races for the last few spots got I think the only only pick what seven reserves so one of if you just take you start four guys one of top four guys left in each each position. One of Jimmy Butler Jason Tatum. Obama'd Bayelsa Bonus out. Don't jump in for fun carry. Derrick rose Larry Levin Benson Ascendance Brady Bill couple has got which again is kinda shocking? Need to go west now. This this is is more reasonable. I think they'll probably get in everybody like Chris Paul. Who's been a good player? This year might not make it Apparently towns serving grade year might not make it Ingram Brennan Ingraham's at Goodyear Right now. Because they're gonNA they might WanNa put them hello win you know. He's having a good year not all Sarkar Beer. But he's having in a good year but they might just give them the the farewell also game numb trip so actually they do. They differ Kobe's last couple of years merely a job mirant. WHO's been regularly? She might not make. He is going to be some tough decisions as going to be some guys that definition. It's going to be snubbed. So we'll definitely talk about that next week when those teams are officially announced. But that'll do it for me here today today. On the G. S. MC SPORTS PODCAST BEEN BY G S MC podcast network. I think that's listening once again as you guys always do we. You haven't already minimize. Subscribe to the podcast makes you. You're on top drafts of Michigan. Never miss an episode If you can please give suffic- rating view be very very nice very helpful. We appreciate it and as always if you're on social media you're also social media. You can find US twitter instagram facebook. Wherever wherever you are we are defined find as they are again? 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The Anti Anti-Aging Episode

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The Anti Anti-Aging Episode

"Hello. Welcome to died. Smart. I'm Sammy me lean and we're here and she's thirty. I'm thirty thirty where. No, yes, we are both thirty. Now, we have entered a new decade. Yeah. You guys have really old hosts they will let you know. Like, our best anti-aging secrets do have them. Well, you know, natural antiques secrets. Yeah, we'll let you know what it's like to be no longer in our our late twenty like to have a Walker. What it's like to be more mature he dinner at four PM. I've always like eaten dinner last night's dinner at nine pm was rough yet. I wasn't even I woke up five times in the middle of the night. Like chugging water, a cut did not get a good night's sleep. Because I think I think you might have been dehydrated before because we were both. We both arrived at the really thirsty drink anything. Like, I literally like a sip one that was it. Pop. But yes, we got it just wanted to talk about because I feel we've been talking. I've literally yesterday I had a meeting and shoes. Also, the woman she was our producer for our new the show that's in the works. And she was like, yeah. Like two years from forty and we're like really, but she was like, it's another decade. I'm like she says she was asking me what it was like. And I like it it is it's the idea of turning thirty crazy because for the last three years, you're like oh shit. Now, I'm twenty seven three more years to thirty shit twenty eight two more years to thirty shit twenty nine. This is my last year my twenties Otit, oh shit Otit. It's my birthday or the day before my birthday is the last day of my twenties the last day, and then you're thirty and there's a lot of anticipation for three years to enter this decade. Yeah. I think that for like, let's say twenty six through twenty. Eighty eight. I was like a little bit dreading it. Yeah. Like, oh, my all thirties. So they don't want to do it. But once I turned twenty nine I started being like, I don't care I'm excited thirty, and I hope that the same thing happens to me when I approach forty. It's not it's not like about caring. It's about that. The thought is existing in your head. Right. But it's not much bothers you. Yeah. But it wasn't bothering me. I wasn't bothered by it. I was excited are when I know I know, but even me who wasn't bothered by it felt a shift in just like in the maybe it's like this relief of all these years. I've been like like kind of living up to it. And then Finally, I did it. And then it's fine. I also have a personal like story about my close family friend who passed away on her thirtieth birthday. So that was like a massive thing that I was like like really really had so much anxiety about turning thirty. It's like always been in the back of my head and like. Why was highly emotional for me like just there? I was just really high strung day. Even I was walking through streets thinking, oh, I'm feeling so good. But I'm like this is fucked up, but it's like I need to make it through today. And it was like so so motion. And that's why like that's why I know you guys were making fun of me. But it was it was such like an emotion fun of you. We're making fun of the joke that Donna like to actually so much younger than us. And you get really sensitive about it for no reason. And it's funny when she says things that are like absurd because she's not that much younger. But she but the joke is that she is no night body. No, I laugh about it too. I'm just what I'm saying that like I was trying to trying to be serious about it. And like, it's just it's it was highly motion for that reason for me. And so now that sort of it's okay, it's. That was like the mental emotional shift. Right. It's interesting. I got very motion for completely different reason. I was like bawling at dinner. Yeah. Just like sitting there like at the table like wiping away eyeliner with a napkin, and for me, honestly, like cry was full. Right. Pool of tears. Adding Tele we'll. Honest inside. It looks really happy. I was very happy. But I also had a very emotional dinner. Yeah. But for me, it was more. Like, I feel like I've been through a lot the honest with you in my life. I've experienced a lot of things of deaths honesty in the past three years of family members. And I think I had a hard a hard upbringing like it was not like pleasant with my parents, my family, and I felt that I was sort of like an of late I've sort of like kind of shifted my own life away from those things being defining also because once people die like you you can't just continue living in that forever. And I think that for me at all really just sort of caught up with me like all that I had experienced at this point. And almost in a way, I had to be really emotional. So that I could like leave that behind closure. Yeah. Like, I felt I felt closure on this phase in my life that like the beginning third of my life that I feel has been very not great times. And it all sort of just like was was being remind like I was being reminded of all of it. And I don't know. I just felt like I had to sort of like you're also entering a new phase of life. We're like starting our own families that that to me like the chills about because it's that besides entering a new decade, which in itself is wild like this idea of breaking away from from your family now, it's your own family, and you're starting out fresh and like in the past couple years few years, maybe ten. Ten years even your learning so much about yourself. And like you've taken all of that. That's why I I really feel like I don't I it's not just something that just sort of in passing. I truly feel it deep down that like these things that we're learning even through this podcast is very therapeutic that like it's really equipping me an us. I think to go into this next step to start our own families. Right. I mean, I don't I don't see it so much as like being about the new decade. I guess the decade provides some sort of like marker that gives it like because it more poetic. Yeah. But I think that this is something, and it just kind of gave me or is giving me like a reason to reevaluate and be like what like even like all my birthday. I was like saying to my mom. I was like I was just so upset yesterday about saying it's a her yesterday about the day before that I was just so upset about like just things like just. Really things that maybe I hadn't even like properly like grieved over or or really like, you know, had tried to put out sooner than maybe like a person needs to or should. And she said to me, she's like, she's like you. She's like, I know that you see yourself the way for the way that your life was for like most of it. And that is understandable. But she's like, but now you aren't that person anymore. And I think that you're that you're you're emotions are lagging behind your real reality. She's like, you have an amazing man who you're gonna marry you have such as successful business. So many people look up to you, you have become youthful apartment that I know. Yeah. You have that in Colombia, right? Yeah. I don't guess. Oh, yeah. Yeah. We always had this theory about you. And you have to listen to me. Right. It's you don't you're not. I literally said this is not caught up to where you like. Yeah. You think your mindset is of of Sammy at twenty three twenty five? Five. Yeah. But really, you're not like not appreciating. But like, I just think I'm not used to it. Because because I think it takes a long time like even just like in terms of the neural connection in your brain. And like neuro plasticity like it takes longer, Lance. Yeah. More than like, two years. I think to reform all those things that I had been thinking twenty six twenty years. So so sh- she's like why don't you just like try to like focus on what is facts. Now, like, the facts on the ground are things are really great. But she's like, I get it. Like, you really hot it, really hard. And I think that for many years that went very unacknowledged in my family, like everyone was always just like you have it. So great. I'm like, no fucking does my life back. Yeah. No. Yeah. That was very emotional for me. I felt like almost had to have that experience. So that I could like maybe hopefully behind again, I've only been thirty for one day. So I don't know if I really left it behind, you know, but it doesn't. But that's not the point. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. How many being thirty isn't it? Nothing's changed. It's the it's the time leading up to it. And then like the day of that you're sort of reflecting on. All that time ran then you're saying, okay. Like, how do I go into the next day with a slightly tweaked mindset, and right that that's it. And it's kind of feel so good. Yeah. It feels it feels good. But it doesn't feel. Okay. I think sometimes when something feels like a little bit too good. It's almost like I know that it's bacon. It'll go away. So I feel like I always. But this this doesn't this feel stronger? This feels like there's foundation in it for me, it still feels like quite precarious. But at the same time like I think that if I were like oh fixed. Now that would be no no one's fat would be vibe. If I really believed like just let it all go yesterday. If I thought that I would know that I was lying to myself. But I actually feel like feeling on sure about whether or not actually let a lot of these things go, and look I don't think that it's that crazy for me to have not let things go. I lost three family members within one year two of them within a week of each other. And these were like important. They weren't like distant. They weren't distant relationships like by grandparents were like, basically like parents to me and like them in like one year of each other. And my brother, and it was just really really hard. And I think that that's like not something that you get over in like two or three years, even like Joan so sure there's gonna be a lifetime of healing from that. Well, but it's also like I feel like sometimes you say, oh things are good. I can't I can't like I can't I can't enjoy enjoy it because I think something's bad can happen. Yeah. But I do feel but forever something back and have it to anybody. But I know your fear instantly for a lot of your life with like cancer financial issues, like literally like fucking experience like I fucking thing. But I feel when you're used to those things happening one after the other and just kind of like always these like deep tragic things running in the background of your life. You're not like prepared to believe that they're going to go. But you don't have to believe that they're going to go away. Right. But but you don't need you don't need to be like like you said everything's fixed because nothing is ever really fixing. I've nothing is is amazing one hundred percent in one day. But not being fixed about being like, it's always like, I'm kind of always waiting for the next shoe to drop of like, oh, I have it really good. But like I feel like I'm like what knuckling my life like gas to stay this good forever. I think if you let that part go though, like if you let go of this idea that everything is amazing now and just experience at everything is everything is chill. Like, it's like. Yeah. But that's much easier said than done when or when you have like as easier said than done, I can give you a vice and you can give me advice, and neither of us will listen to our own adviced in the same rights, flip the coin. Well, anyway, seems neither to teach medium. But it's it's kind of like. Yep. My I want to believe that it's much. It's really hard to train your brain something when ninety percent of the time that you've been alive, it's been trained a different way. Well, yeah. But training takes a lot of time training is like you're sort of go on with your life. And then suddenly you have some experience. And then you're like, I can choose to to think this where can choose to this way. And then that a nugget maybe like smaller than a nut it, and then you go on with your day and everything is normal. And you wait for the next experience. It's really just it's that and it it takes a fuck ton of time. Yeah. You might not be able to train your brain long enough until something else. I whatever may be more used to the feeling a not like constantly like for the waiting for the things tap me shoulder. It's going to ruin my life. Right. Warm. I think it'll. Right tragedy is your norm. Yeah. You are literally. Especially to always be that way. Like, you just can't. Yeah. Speaking speaking, thirty five so kessel of the producer. We're talking like the biggest change for me was thirty five not thirty because I had to in that like age bracket. I'm no longer up to thirty four a new age racket of like when you have to sign like do the boxes thirty five is like a real age like like, my mom. I remember the first Birmingham, my mother real like the first birthday of my mother's that. I remember is when she turned thirty seven, and I think about the now like, oh, she was so young at that time interesting. Yeah. I never thought about a birthday of my mom's that I remember. I just remember she had I remember she had to get glasses. And I remember. I remember. Yeah. I remember her getting lasts at thirty seven. And being like, I'm must be so old now the glasses and third grade sprite. She didn't. And I don't thank God. I have twenty twenty vision. I hope to keep it that way. My hearing on the what are you on? Why? Gary shops. What are your thoughts on like, preventative bowtie and fillers? And I know we talked about that with a gain the plastic surgeon and previous episode about like people should do whatever they want. But just like, let's take back take it back a step and just thinking about so many people are now getting preventative Bo talks, and fillers and all that shit. I mean, it's got my for the second time I've gotten fillers I had to have gained do my due note like my nose of a year ago, which I don't think is I don't really think that as a filler or botox really I've had these things that is filler. I don't think of it as as the same it because it's like it's more like, I think cheeks Moore's filler the knows who's trying to change the no shape rather than like make it even I don't know either way I have had these things, and I kind of don't want to have them anymore. Honestly, two reasons got one is that I keep noticing like p. People get something that I'm going to I've nicknamed filler face. And I think that it's almost something that you can't even really like you don't notice taxed in yourself, and it's very subtle. And sometimes I only I notice it for people, and I only notice it at certain angles, maybe a certain glimpse of in their industry where I'll see something with the is a little off. And all the sudden, I I can't unseat and there's waiting your eyes will squint, but the rest of your face will not move. Yeah. But it's it's it's high always look myself. I got it. I'm right now, I think it's really it's really hard to tell on yourself. And I kind of person who if I did keep going with this would get out of hand. I keep seeing I'm like, I really don't wanna like look like that. I I kind of I tweeted this a while ago. And I feel like getting older of choice between like looking older you're young or looking like you had work done. And I like, honestly like I. It's to the point. Where like I can't. I haven't seen anyone who has had fillers. I don't see this on like, I just see this kind of like, what do you mean? Like, I see filler face on anyone who's had work like I kind of ood. But okay. The second thing that kind of made me like rethink this. And this is so random, so, you know, into my Yang, the bigly girls. Yeah. Okay. So they were interviewing their mom. Oh, yeah. Yeah. And her and they said like their mom has never had like fillers. Bo talks. She never did anything plastic surgery wise. I obviously can't make that claim anymore. But seeing her and seeing how she was like a natural looking woman who looked good but looked like her age. Yeah. I was like, you know, what like I don't who says I have to do all this. Because like I could because I have access to it because everyone else kind of wants to do this because I do like, why don't I just try this? And this is. Less expensive and potentially better for my mental help, why don't I just chide alike kind of age gracefully naturally like my grandmother age like she took really great care of her skin. She and she aged very very well until she like had Alzheimer's and Lynn like looked not great. But maybe like, I can maybe I can just try to accept myself as an aging bursary thing to say, I think that's an important thing to say out loud. And I I don't think enough people think I think there are a lot of people who are in your camp and agree. I I might be in that camp as well. Just like great. You could look like your mom. Okay. Yeah. My mom's this nothing. But she. Okay. She does a great. I know she looks great. But. Okay. Okay. So like, I just think that there are enough people in that camp that. Will don't there aren't enough people on Instagram that are saying that for example? But what I think most above all of that is that the reason people are getting all of this filler ship, myself included is. Yeah. Does social media photos? People look perfect in one angle on a phone like when they look in a NFL modem myself, I'm satisfied, but if they turn or if they smile if the normal three sixty movements that somebody's that somebody sees you walking down the street. You don't you don't look normal yet. Another thing that I've been noticing is like I watched shows I watch whatever TV not reality TV like with actors, and there's is characters that have like like imperfect faces like it's not proportionate. And that's what makes them unique. Yeah. Whereas you look at these getting fillers and the experience of it is very much like how do I make my face symmetrical imperfect? Like somebody in the past said to me, you know, your chin, and I'm like, you know, I never noticed anything about my chin. But thank you. Like your chin is in proportional with your face like, you're more square. So the idea never know shock or just listen to the idea luck is a more longer face oval. That's the ideal oval face, and I'm like, okay. So thank you. I have I haven't face, and I hate how sleep, but can't shave my, but my, but my point is that like if I keep if I do that then I look a little bit not like myself. Right. And I think like ultimately everyone's going to as you age like everyone from the dawn of time or that. I'm aware has felt like getting older this wrinkle this this. It's not perfect anymore. Yeah. Honestly, I've never felt who released. I never felt satisfied with how I look. But okay, I could either like choose to either. And the this same thing goes with losing weight. I think is that like I can either choose to kind of like. Really try to get to the place. I wanna be in terms of the fillers. And I have the perfect symmetry for myself. And then I have to maintain it. And you're constantly doing it on your spending on the money on it. And I could all okay, I could take that route and be, you know, maybe I'll get a quick fix like all feel better one day or whatever. Or I could just work on something which I find equally challenging to deal with which is just kind of like trying to be happy with what I look like like, I just feel like if I'm going to constantly be fighting this gravity gravitational pull of aging which you can do nothing about I could either do that or which is a fight a losing battle. Because everyone gets old. I just came up with the noon for this episode. I could either fight that losing battle or I could fight this difficult po-potentially really fulfilling battle. Yeah. Where ultimately I could end up with greater self acceptance and. Like just kind of like fuck if I don't look like like the perfect symmetry. Like, okay. You know, what I've never been someone who's trying to get by on my looks like no one's ever like, the her greatest qualities that. She's absolutely beautiful VIN. Like, no, that's not really what my best qualities are on this earth. Like, I'm smart. I have we also want to see that. It is okay. To one like we're sitting here like trying to get real fit for. No. Yeah. I am. I don't look. I don't care if other people do it. I'm just saying like what? And look, I'm not saying them. I don't try to be skinny. That's what my wedding tune anything. Like, obviously, I do all these things, but I'm saying like raw realistic here. No. I know. But I'm saying like I could point in one direction, which is like the filler never accept keep fighting for it. Just right. You'll miserable all the time. Because all never actually live up to what I want. Yeah. Listed or I could orient myself in a different direction. And like, yeah, I'll have things where I kind of like, oh, this is a drift. I did this or maybe one day. We'll get a filler talks or something like, yeah. But generally the direction I want to be pointed in is like try to get less shit. That's like not kind of natural. And I'm not saying I won't use face products. Like, obviously, I like to think that that's like worth your time. And I think that just generally trying orient myself in that direction of like do less things to myself try to be healthier try to be try to be generally like more emotionally hole and happy with an happy with myself. And that's kind of just generally the the direction I want to orient myself. I think though, even even further the the person who was doing filler, she was like, you know, the real thing for anti aging is like to be very healthy from the inside. She's like if you like a lot of people are trying to correct like fat loss with fillers or fat game with fillers and trying to smooth out their faces. But really the the thing that they want is for their face to small thinner or like. I feel that you're gonna like everything about you. If you are healthy for yourself like not drinking so much alcohol. That's not smoking cigarettes like that create like these last three days I've been on a can get in this. I haven't been eating dessert like it was a challenge for myself. I have no pimples, I had pimples on Sunday. Like, what is going on my skin my whole forehead? And now it is cleared. It is clean. And I'm like this. The key is what you put in your body. Not like the injectables that you put on side. Right. I that that if we can if we can try to do that. I mean, of course, it's another thing easier, don't but again. But again, wouldn't you rather do the thing? That's like internal that is actually going to be good for your health problem is that it takes time and nobody wants to wait. Okay. But I see the filler thing as sort of like similar to the pill like how? Western medicine wants a treat every symptom with a pill rather than necessarily correcting underlying problem. I think the fillers are completely analogous to that band-aid with. But I think that like look they're both going to be hard both pads or hard because you your again, your people get addicted to this. That's why they end up looking how they look Vicki Gundel sin in the lot in this last season of OC got massive facelift where she said they lifted her face and removed all of the fillers from her past and put her face back on. And that's how I am had to basically. And now, she's all good. She looks great. So everything is perfect. That's what she. But like the I now have this visual my head of like every time you put a filler. I mean, yes, they dissolve. Yes, they do. But she keeps getting them, obviously. And so they're they're so it's just crazy. She got a doctor or move all of the shit. That's right. It clean cleaning picking so funny. But it's sort of like, yeah. Like, why is this something that we're doing like, I don't know when I stop and think about Graham, I'm telling you that is why we're doing it. It is if if there was no means of constantly posting photos of yourself. There would be maybe that's part of it. Or maybe maybe Seri is a shift in attitudes towards women as they age, which I think you see with Hollywood and the media that like women as they age kind of become s. S? There's there would be less judgment because people would see them less like those. I mean, yes, that's one hundred percent v. Like, the overarching like, maybe maybe age should not be equated with something you need to prevent like. Maybe like kind of like how we feel about thirty. We were very afraid to be. And now we are at and I actually feel good about the fact that I am it like, maybe I don't wanna think about aging something what? What? Passing. I know I agree. That's why have never like the. That's why I think I took giadonalds thing sensitively because she's always like trying to stop time. Like, it's the only thing you cannot stop like be upset about something else that you have going on. Okay. Your age what I'm saying? Is that like in the past couple years, the filler the plastic surgery, the Cardin, she not to get into this? Again. I'm going on a production run up podcast today. So guys the Thursday episode. I'm gonna have a little mini rant. Just go in to listen to it. That's just like everybody, normalizing normalizing fillers. And that's that's whatever it's fine normalize. Fuck you on. But I think that that's happened because of Instagram so before before it, we don't even filter any of our Facebook photos. We just post them in wild groupings of the same photo over and over doesn't matter. How how we look that's just how we looked. You know? And no one was learning how to Photoshop or face to like, I just knew how to use like I knew how to code my space nine anymore. But like, you know, I think that that's the that's what exhilarated the issue to where we are now. Yeah. I mean, I yeah. I think I think it's again, just go back to the car dashing rent like to to to basically suggest to people that this is something that you need. I think is really bad for people psychology. Because it's like, I'm not saying, look, I don't judge anyone who gets fillers. I'm telling you, how many I've had several this judger like a healthy conversation debate again oursel-, I'm just trying to it's not even a debate. I'm just trying to think about like how I can live happiest in my life. And I just know that there's going to be so many issues and product again, I'm used to tragedy. I'm used to problems. And like, why am I like I would rather kind of try to reframe how I think about getting older rather than try to prevent it. Whether it's abs-. Absolutely again path honestly as with everything, it's balanced. So like if something is making you feel good. And this is this is the thing that's making you feel good. Like, you look in the mirror, and you like you like what you like, you know, that there's a difference. This is helping you truly adds some symmetry to your face. Because a lot of plastic surgery is helpful. There's like, you know, like in a true reconstructive way. I haven't anti plus. But even if it wasn't like a truly reconstructive where it's just helping you feel better about yourself. I think that that's one hundred percent, okay. Because you're this isn't the biggest your aging is in everyone's problems. You know, they have a lot of other shit going. So if this is the thing that they can afford are choosing to spend their money because it is making them feel good again. No judgment. I I sort of see it. I'm not gonna really again also avoiding going into face moat. We have a packed you. Tell me if I will be able to see your face because I see you every day. You will. No, I won't. Was just him everyday has where both dogs. I won't be able to see to see your face. I see is like your foreheads fine. I'm like, okay. Hey, hasn't next. Honestly, like, look, I totally don't touch it. I've had a nose job and a half. And then I had an answer to go. Rhino plastic. I got cheek fillers. Once I had talks twice in different areas of my face. I do not I'm not against it. But it's the fact that it's honestly, I think it's almost like good that I've had it. Because now I'm like what is really didn't do much for me in terms of like how I feel about myself. So why am I just chasing it? Yeah. Like, I rather spend my money on other expensive items. Yeah. Yeah. Like other things that try to blanket are. Yeah. But then at least to solve. Got just like get over it. And leaving your back. Your closet. Yes. Big up. My other stuff. Can you give us an update on your life post space diet? Oh, it is difficult. It is very difficult to eat healthy. I'm doing it. Really? Well, I think right now because I'm very very motivated. The biggest thing for me was to monitor to write down every single one of my calories. Just everything I eat even if it's like one cookies and chocolate and like write down every single Theresa chocolate. I eat and not letting it stop me from eating chocolate and just going forward. But just knowing I'm gonna write it down. And I've noticed over time that my snack section which is the desert section is like maybe lart more calories than any of my other meals. And so that's where I was like there. I dent defy a problem. That is definitely an issue that I wouldn't notice wouldn't have noticed before. So that's what inspired me to sort of to take it back to add a little bit more control and see how I feel again just to you know, like, they always say, it's cliche for reason is that you can never really make any change without being uncomfortable. So like, that's what I'm trying to do is make myself feel uncomfortable and see if that makes an effect, and I feel a little bit better. Honestly. But I notice that I had an addiction for chocolate. Like, it's not it's not it wasn't. It wasn't like it was an addiction. Like every piece. I literally yelled I need to rest like fucking cookie, monster and. But okay. But but I notice that I didn't like that about myself. And I was like I don't need to be reliant. I've also noticed that I got a little bit more shit done because I'm not sitting there waiting to go back to the kitchen watching TV go back to the kitchen. I was like I'm going to sit with my emotions, and I'm going to sit with them whether that's stress'll or not that's been a big thing. But honestly, I feel like I'm learning more doing this. Now that office space food diet. Yeah. Then about how to have healthy habits, then I've ever had before. And it's really exciting. If anybody wants to I can give you an idea of what I'm eating not that. It's a guide of what what I've Ealing actually knows. I feel like this is like more challenging for you than it would be like I pretty much do the kind of just casual eat healthy and counting calories. But that's because I've never been a diet plan person. I like like, I always hated that plans. So you always kind of relied on these plans like tell me what to eat tell me what. On and can't have my I never I don't like that. It doesn't really work for me. So I always kind of had to finagle my own. That's what's inspiring dodgems regular or real girl. Diet approach is that it's there's no restrictions. I hate restriction. But I'm saying there are no restrictions. You can sometimes dare you can sometimes not dare you can eat based on what you like. But you, but if whatever your goals are whether it's to lose weight or not that's what you have to stay within those lines. So like, that's what I that's one of the RD's dietitians that inspired me about the real girl. Died is Alex Cora and she's coming on the podcast. I think in a couple of weeks or maybe next week as a guest on a Wednesday episode. So everybody should listen. But it is really hard. Because there are there are no there's no boundaries. So I can go for whatever I want. And I'm learning so many Fehmi the calories or the boundaries. That's always how it's been for me. That's but that's reality that that's not like a key. Died appeal yo Di it's not vegan. That's not anything that those those boundaries are arbitrary whereas calorie that's not arbitrary that's energy expenditure that that dictates whether or not you lose weight. So that that and learning how to work out properly all of these things I feel like slow slow and steady. Yeah. That's how I'm feeling. Great. Should we read an Email? Yeah. This episode is brought to you by sweaty Betty, who's shirt, I'm wearing at this very moment. 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Whenever we go out. Her focus seems to be on calories and health when alpha bungee keeps debating between two choices asking me, which one and more calories in which would be healthier another time. We went to see a movie with plans to sneak and halo top. And she asked me if I didn't dinner before telling me, she'd run on time and would Bill up on halo top followed by longingly looking at all the other store, but refusing to grab any she also makes passive comments about things looking good on my skinny little legs, which I found rather uncomfortable. Someone who's really struggled with being Sutin and worried about calories or health. I find the concert comments to be really upsetting. And I find myself comparing myself to her and her habits when cognitively I know they're zero need to any advice for dealing with all the diet talk. This seems like kind of similar to the last week's Email with a girl. Who she lived with a girl who's constantly making calling girls fat kind of similar similar, but it's like slightly less. It's less offensive -fensive. I think that this. But I do think the is kind of the same is that? Well, you're not living with this girl. You also recently made this girl as a friend. So when you make a friend, and you kind of don't know someone and you connect on maybe like five things, you don't know what the other five things are about them that like that are going to drive you crazy or not be great for you. I'm not saying, you should drop our friend. Of course, not. But I'm saying like this is the way that like I've known lean forever. So I just kind of know the things that we do work in early. Don't. It's like to me, those are like, just okay. Yeah. That's always how it's been. I don't even like remember dealing with it. But because this is new friend. You are right are like it's much more clear the things that bother you and don't bother. I think what would be what this girl is kind of asking for. It's like a cry. For help. She wants you to ask her about what she's dealing with. And I think that if you could bring you closer and try to understand her from a different level, maybe like relate to her a little bit in a way that doesn't make you uncomfortable is like, hey, I noticed that you're like really focusing really intensely focusing on calories in like a little more kind of an obsessive way night, not judging you I just want to know what's going on. And then maybe she'll open up if she's defensive at first you back off. But it may be you shall open up, and that's a conversation. You guys can have and then you can input like you can give some input in like, you look amazing. But like if you need any support with whatever you're doing I think that that could break a boundary of your friendship right now seems a little superficial. But I just begin exactly. So maybe I think that could be I think that's what she's like every time. Somebody says something it means they want attention about it. So they wanna they wanna talk about it. So. Ask her about it like what's actually going on with you. And that could maybe bring you closer. Yeah. And I think if you feel good about like who you are that should make it not easy. But also not impossible to just kind of like learn tune this out like people say things all the time that are annoying, and you just kind of have to. Them out. So I would work on maybe that we're on that. If you saw the face. Rubbed her whole face their hand. Like so fucking annoying. Okay. Let's play a game hate this game in a good way. Okay. You explain the game, oxen, Maya hate it. Okay. The game is called thirty flirty and thriving. That's not what I hate about. So now that we're thirty we have to start treating our bodies like real salt. So now we have to rank the order in which you'd give these vices or unhealthy habits up. Okay. The second. I read this. I felt extremely I fell flight or fight response being threatened. Again, this aliens dia plans because I do this shit out. I don't believe in it. I don't believe in in saying anything off limits. I'm now to the earliest role. Right. But the reason okay, I've had experiences where I've tried to do this. And I know how badly it goes for me and how much it went on all of that Sam diet yet. All I all that shit cutting out full anything like literally anything me want. It more be backfire set. Me back emotionally like years. It made me feel deprived of fucking tunnel. Getting this fun. Okay. So then rank the order in which you'd give up these vices or unhealthy habits. These are the options wine dairy marijuana caffeine sugar. Gluten hard liquor and truck 'let. This is literally the hardest thing in whole world, everyone go do it at home. I got in my list on okay in order. You would give these up. Okay. There's only one thing on this list that I would have a small that. I would only have a small issue giving up and it is hard liquor. So I would give up hard liquor first because it makes me feel like shit, and like I kind of only drink it because persona reasons. Yeah. When I'm like in a social thing, obviously, I like a not a believer in like. Having the option of taking tequila shot when you want. But like what that's that's like, the least it's the least appealing to me. I like at the least number two is caffeine. I I need caffeine obviouly. You can really win yourself all caffeine, very fast. And you know, I wasn't really having like any coffee. Look it makes me happy to have caffeine. I like it. I don't like to say not things three would have to say no to these things about because we're paying. Fucking. I'm just saying what is the easiest to live without. I think I think hard liquor. I think cat because I don't really like hard liquor. The reason why caffeine is the heart is the easiest is because hard liquor you're presented with it. Your far more you're presented with far more often than you are caffeine. I like I wanna copy because you're like you need a caffeine. Like, I was sick for like a week. And I couldn't really have couldn't really coffee during coffee because my stomach was really bothering me. And I didn't have it. And like, it's just it was fine. But like I enjoy my fucking coffee. Okay. That's you have decaf coffee. It's not the same. It's not the same could have. But I'm saying. For example. I don't like hard liquor like I don't even like it. Just have it to Keila. You don't like to do. I know it doesn't taste good. Yeah. It's fun. Have it socially? But what? I martinez. They're they're good for social occasions. But like am I ever to order that alone? No never will. I haven't in my apartment alone. Pro. No like as yeah. Desire. Okay. Three for me would be wine because again, like alcohol, all alway alcohols are like a bottom of. No, okay. My last one is marijuana. I would give sugar before I gave it marijuana. Oh, no sugars my last last thing that I'm giving up talk. Let's my second to us seem chocolate's. My second to last sugars third to last. Tween Laker in line curtain wide as my as my third to light. So interesting like I feel like our vices are opposite. Like to me. I'm like, I don't really get out hall. Don't I don't like to. I like to smoke weed that much. That's the difference. I love we'd like I like it. But I don't ever really like I forget it the last time. I smoked oh mine was last night. So, but yeah. And it doesn't give me a I love drink love having glass of champagne, see, I don't like the way you about that is the way feel about smoking. I love it. Go out. Yeah. I'm like what do I choose wine or hard liquor? What would I give I think you should give up hard liquor? I because it's hard on your body and champagne considered wine. Yes. Okay. So then I'm going to get rid of wine. Six hard liquors five. Okay. I have my list to go down your list of. Okay. But I to give up I spur some giving up hard liquor second. I'm giving up caffeine third. I'm giving up wine fourth. I'm giving up. Gluten fifth. I'm giving up dairy six sugar seven chocolate and ate marijuana. Think. Yeah. If I don't have. So I don't have all these foods. Yeah. But I have marijuana. No, no, no problems are signed. Because the pro my only issue with marijuana is the munchies. Yeah. But if I can't have these foods because I gave them brave you'll hate smoke. No. I don't like this the food is not what. Okay. I like. I just liked to sit on my couch and think yeah, I like to just think to come up with like thoughts. It just gives me a thrill like there's nowhere more thrilling than my head. Fun park. Like being my head is more fun to me than going to a party and drinking. That's that's a great thing to have figu. Okay. This is my the first thing I'm giving up as marijuana because I don't really I don't care about. I think sometimes, but like I get like deep sometimes, and I get really good ideas. However, then I become such a low tolerance that I become completely completely unable to move. Or actually have any ideas that I remember what alcohol I'm a functional smoker. So what alcohol is to you is what marijuana is to me versa. I come up with great ideas line. I when I drink on. I'm just like a bumbling idiot about this like this is going to be my Oscar wins. I won't say it leader. But so when we went to for my birthday, we ordered about of wine, and like I've never not polished off about a one that's on the table in my life. Only two and a half glasses between each each. We've never. I just spit. I've never got on each no-no about a one. Yeah. That's only two to pry. Yeah. Exactly. Right. So five in the bottle. But so literally at the others at least glass half left in the bottle. And like normally I'd be like we paid for that. We're drinking every. Yeah. Like, we're going to enjoy this day, we left it. This is your non scale win. Yes. Amazing. I would've normally just like we can't leave until this is gone like where we paid for this. Yeah. I paid for this or actually he paid for this. But whatever all the money's going to be combined, so whatever. But yeah, I agree. It's you feel like it's all you're wasting money or wasting the why where's this going to go and be thrown out also Mike it's not going to go inside me. They're not gonna get drunker, but I don't wanna get drunk, but I wanted to. But so with the we'd like I feel like obviously, we get a bad rap because it's illegal and like there's like whatever. But I feel like I can't really be a functional drinker like the next day like whatever, but I could be a functional smoker. So and I feel better. I don't feel shitty from it the way I feel shitty from alcohol. So why show it's like, I can't work out. If I smoke the night the night before I could smoke and then over a run mmediately, nice workout here. I parent is your head is all like loud, you go further running. It's nice. If it's nice out. It's like parts of like smoking is when you get really good weed, and it makes you laugh. That's the only thing. I love I was watching. I smoked actually do remember last time. I smoked I smoked, and I watched Penn fifteen I was crying. Did you watch fifty? Okay. The first couple episodes to get it get it. But then it gets so. Fucking funny. Once you know, the characters and you forget that thirty year olds or whatever playing middle schoolers alongside actual middle schoolers. That's so weird. It's so fucking funny. But anyway, so that's the only time I maybe those experiences I wouldn't give up to make a point about this game. It's like if I'm giving up sugar as six how can chocolate be seven. I guess it's just a game suspension, which let me go through my think, so we'd be number one caffeine would be number two. So we both up Kathy. Then I would give up dairy. Okay. Then I would give up gluten then I wouldn't get to then I would give hard liquor then I would give up. Wine, and then I would give up chocolate, and then I would give up sugar interesting. So sugars really like your top. I mean, as you can tell based on my story that I'm just like guzzling it down in my sack section of my fitness pal. But you know, I guzzle sugar too. But I guess I'd rather case smoke EMMY Noga, but I I would rather have the option. Yeah. Than the option to eat cake because cake is like not cake. I know is like not good for me and kind of is like killing millions. I need a little bit of sugar like my vice I need a little bit to keep me saying, and honestly these last three days I had is sugar considered like fruit. No, right. I think we would not count fruit in wooden this game because fruits could prove his nature reserve. So we were talking to this woman who said that she was just like I just decided that I'm going to be a person who doesn't eat dessert. She's like shoes forty five. I don't know that age forty. Forties. Fifties shoes. Just like I've had it my whole life. It hasn't done anything for me. I'm going to just decide to be rose new doesn't eat dessert. So she's like an it's been a year later, and I don't really miss it that much, and I was like that is intriguing. I could never do that. But now, I'm three bays it. Okay. Get me a chip. Yeah. I mean, I will say like there are some people who are okay with that. Yeah. Some people who maybe is older. Okay. With it. You know, I need to deep emotional roots? My mom, my parents used to punish me with no sweets every week so. Yeah. And so just again there that's deep. They're not interested in cutting anything this is the game Stanford. I know I just think that for me personally, very bad very mala facs when I do things that I try to stop myself from doing things completely. It's like, my my mind can't like manage or restriction like that. That's fine. That's a really positive thing to recognize about yourself. It's like, yeah. It's almost like the restriction makes me want it more. And I guess I'm like kind of very rebellious in certain ways like that a rebel without a car. No, I also have causes so many causes a my on. My non skill went. Honestly is the fact that I like I wrote down. Let's just try no, no desserts this week and see how you feel and so far three days in and it's that's my non skill when I've very big yesterday. We had the chocolate you guys like this one is so fucking good. And you're like, no one is good. I know you're thinking up, and I was like it's my birthday. I whatever I sit. And I said I'm not gonna talk about it in my head. And then I came home, and there was more chocolate in the gift bag. Oh, I didn't. I didn't have that yet. That's tonight for me. But I came home, and I had the leftover cake from the night my dinner. I didn't we threw that away. Right. That was that was a bad news bears. I honestly Queen and with that cake. Knock good. I was literally having stomach problems Queen Anne style. Okay. Let's read on scale. When will you read it because I have our jeez, my throat hurts. I just graduated from college in December and moved back to my hometown four hours away before starting grad school, I had gotten into a really bad habit of stopping to get fast food halfway through my trip going there and back. So if I went home for a short weekend trip that would possibly be twice in one weekend. Sometimes I would eat lunch before I left or bring a snack with me or I wouldn't even be hungry enough for the whole fast food meal, but over my four point five years of college I'd made it such a habit that I would go through the motions of getting the fast food at that spot. I started to turn off at at the exit every single time like it was part of my trip. I went back to visit my friends who are still there last week, and I made the conscious effort on the way there to stop at the gas station instead of the fast food and get a more controlled snack of homeless and. Zola's on the way back eaten a huge lunch before I left, and I got so close, and I got close to the fast food. I realized it wasn't even hungry and did not even stop. I've never thought of non scale wins before and would probably have never broken this habit. If it hadn't been for this. That's that. Honestly is such a win to break a habit that you know, we always say like don't want when you when you turn something like indulgent into a habit. That's when you know, you gotta break it, right? And it's I because every time AVI are drive somewhere. I have to get Dunkin donuts coffee like it's this weird thing where I associated dry would all the time. I know I associate driving somewhere getting Dunkin donuts specifically not start not some other crops mass to beat buck in Dunkin. Yeah. And yeah, I got a skit to like sometimes I just did that like, and I was like, okay. Well for here. I need one munch, right? One munchkin is perfect perfect. It's fleming. You're like she's giving give me too isn't. She. And then I'm like, no just one we go in the bag this having like two years ago when she gave me one fucking. Yes. To me. No, don't give you just one. Yes. So I get that is really hard because I now can't go anywhere without, you know, Dunkin donuts stop, and it's killing me. But. I guess we're going to close out with our audience workout song of the week dirty by Christina Aguilera. Good size grates on my list. Do it. Okay. Added to your list. All right, guys. This has been a really really fun episode emails DSP at benches dot com. Follow us at starts. Tomorrow. 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#26: What To Do When Your Child is Out of Control with Robyn Gobbel

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#26: What To Do When Your Child is Out of Control with Robyn Gobbel

"Welcome to the adoption connection podcast where we share resources by enfor adoptive and foster moms. I'm Lisa Qualls. And this is Melissa corkum. Don't worry we get it. And we're here for you. Good morning, Lisa happy Valentine's Day week. But good morning to you, Melissa guess, this is kind of a fun little fun little thing. I don't know. Do you do much to celebrate Valentine's Day? I don't I mean, I kind of feel like all the holidays are just the disruption to something extra something extra to worry about. I'm such a Scrooge. I'm so sorry. I I don't know. So I also even before I was a stressed out trauma crisis. You know late and mother. Downturns day. I think. Was just not in Patrick's and my wheelhouse. Like, that's not our thing. He we kinda both about like it was like an invention of hallmark and everything that we would like to do for each other just was more expensive. I don't know. So we don't do it a ton actually at all. Well rested. I have never made it a really big holiday for ourselves. But I usually do something for the kids, and I grew up with a mom who was really good about the small holidays. So like a Ballantine's day. We'd always get a pair of like Valentine socks or something like that. And you know, when things were they're very hardest that all fell away, and I was not good at all. But any holidays Amir barely made it through Christmas and birthdays. But now in the last few years, I usually do something like odd by this little cellophane bags. You know, an all tech little treats often just little treats in it or the girls. I might get what am I got in that maybe socks or, you know, just little small things, but I don't do a lot. But I do think it's like a little teeny bit of joy. So and we need more of that. So yeah, I'll do a little something. I haven't figured out. It's almost here's I'd better. Get it together yet. My mom was also really good at the little. Holidays and Valentine's actually, when she always liked to do gingerbread houses, we never it was always too busy at Christmas. So she would always buy them on clearance after Christmas. And then we would decorate it with Ballantine's candies like the little red hearts and can't you know, leftover candy canes from Christmas 'cause they were red and Wii. And so do you have a lot of memories of that growing up? And there was of course, there was the year where she thought it was a good idea to make a gingerbread house from scratch like we rolled out the hot out the things. And anyway, so so it's not idea. Yeah. I really liked that idea because you know, homes families are about love, and you could. Yeah, I think that you need idea. I I did not know that. So I did not buy any gingerbread houses on clearance. But it's good idea. I might try that in the future. Yeah. Next year. There's always next year. Lisa. Yeah. Oh, yeah. These holidays do keep coming around. So well, I'm really looking forward to hearing today's interview I have not gotten to listen to it yet. But I'm really looking forward to it. I'm looking forward to sharing it with our listeners. You wanna tell us a little bit about it? Yes. So we're welcoming, Robin. Go back to the podcast this week. We recorded part one last week, and she did a fabulous job of just helping us. No, different ways to regulate through sensory movement and place. If you didn't get to listen to that had backed episode twenty five you can get there by going to the adoption connection dot com slash twenty five. But you know, there's kind of this lingering question about will. It's all fighted while to have some things that we can build into our schedules that help our kids develop those brain skills. But what about in the moment? You know, what if are we don't have those comments those regulated moments? What if it feels like we're always in the moment? And until we can't get ahead of it. So Robin was kind enough to come back and address that topic which I'm super excited about because I will tell you. And I think I said this when I talked to her that that is probably the number one question or one of the questions that we get when we're chatting with moms and kind of asking what their biggest needs are. And what do we do in the moment? You know, we all know what to do in our heads in mementos of sanity and our kids did too. You know, our kids can often say while I should use my words, or I should accept pick a choice or accept a compromiser ask for a compromise. But then they're lid, flips an all goes away just like that. So I'm really excited to hear what Robin has to say. Hi, robin. Welcome back this week. We're super excited to have you we talked. So thoroughly last week about the things that we can kind of do everyday sensory things that are really doing the building blocks of helping our kids brains. Get more to everyone them to be. And you had said at the beginning of that. You know, there's things that we can do kind of ongoing, and then they're also kind of in the moment, which I made my ears perk up. I was telling you before we start recording that when families come to us. That's probably the number one asked question is like it's all finding good. But what do we do like actually in the moment? Or like what if something doesn't work? I don't know. There's so many questions rolling to my head right now. So I guess in like, what would you want people to start off with the basic understanding of an remember last week? If you didn't listen to it, you should jump back Robin gave us a fantastic, you know, quick primer on can a brain structure. But so what's kind of important to remember in the moment here? So I wanna like kind of preface all of this with of same thing for me. Like the most the biggest question, I get the most frequent question. I get is what we do in the moment. And I get that. And I get that. That's the scariest part in feels like the most urgent part in an address that. And I just want to like the we've a little caveat like truly at my core. I believe it's all things were doing outside the moment. And so I want you to try is you're listening to this. I want everyone to try to kind of like hold both of those things is truth. Like, I totally understand that we need in the moment idea of what to do. And it really is most important that we focus on all of those moments outside the in the moment piece. So then the next piece of that is. The piece of we have to figure out ways when our kids are losing their minds to not lose our minds with them. And like if there's it before we could even begin to talk about a strategy of what to do in the moments that he's has to get tackled. I cause any in the moment strategy. That's the livered inside chaos or inside our own severe fear responser own severe trauma response. It's just not going to work like there's no way around it. And so really looking at you know, what are my triggers? What is my kid? You like what can I expect? What what do? I know my life is really like. And what really freaks me out makes me kind of lose my mind enjoying my kid right there too. Because all of us have them. I do too in really thinking about like, okay. I asked parents to ask themselves. This question. Do I have to call nine one one right now in the answer is no then you have a moment to connect with yourself and get grounded in regulated in. And the more you practice that shorter time it takes like it doesn't take doesn't have to take a half an hour. It doesn't have to take leaving your kid or eventually I really feel like that's the bar. And sometimes the answer to do. I have to call nine one one is. Yes, do that. Right. Like use your fight flight freeze energy to do it. It's supposed to do and that's to intervene in a crisis and keep everyone safe right in. So if somebody's being physically violence, or, you know, your your safety is at risk than just let your brain dude at supposed to do to keep everyone safe. But if the answer is no like, you're kids screaming in Cussing at you or doing something, that's definitely bad or destructive or maybe even not safe, but isn't elevated to like somebody's really imminent danger here than at the very first thing we have to do is go like in what's happening. Whereas my healing. You know, can I take one seconds ago? Take a good brass with the great ex- HALE and really connect to our own light green zones, thinking brain like the highest part of our brain were we can then make a good choice about what to do next. But also deliver that intervention from a place where that child is experiencing the say incentive dangerous because if we're just regulated our kids are experiencing us as dangerous in. There's no quote that they're gonna come. It's regulation. I don't know. If you remember what this exact statistic is. But I know that when you first joined us for your first step aside talking about things with kids, you talked about, you know, how our kids take forever like eleven bits of extrinsic there. Take it in like thousands tens of thousands of bits of intrinsic data. And so. The the explicit versus implicit right? Like all like what I'm saying? With what we can concrete the attend year is the limited amount of data. That's coming into our brains. Like right now, you're hearing my words talk we're on a video screens or looking at each other. We all this exit data. We can consciously intense. You an NFL same time. They're yes. There's eleven million bits of unconscious underneath that. We are processing so. Yes. The we have to do more than just think about words were saying in be very attentive to the way that were being I think that's so important to remember because we can't really good at saying. The like, I'm here for you. Hear your choices can come have a compromise. But sometimes it comes out so frantic. 'cause all we want. We just want to stop. The love to stop. That's what we're thinking and feeling all of our like eleven billion bits of instruments data. But we're like, okay. What can I do to help you? You know? Yes. In Raleigh office about is just noticing like going like, wow, I'm kind of freaking out here. Like it sounds. So it's so simple as complicated off the same time. But so much regulation comes through just noticing and sometimes if it's appropriate actually saying that out loud like just match it's happening. I'm like, oh my gosh. You freaking out, and I'm starting to feel like I'm gonna freak out here too. Right instead like naming it ourselves all things you tell our institute name to team at. Breath. Like we wanted to, you know, all of those things ourselves I in in we have to because then if we're if we're offering like like, a verbal redirected like are you asking you're telling or on nudity birds, please ARCHE as compromise or for moving to a more. When I'm gonna talk about like, a more regulation ace up experienced help regulate if we do that in a frantic way or in scared way, or or in this way, again of not honestly, just get it to stop. It's just a normal human experience. I think he could feel like this is needs to stop without feeling this like frantic fear thing. Young your version of your life in reality. Right. Like this season stop. This is extremely uncomfortable. I wanted to stop right now. I hate this. But without like, see if you can have those very true thoughts of honoring your own experience without it becoming frantic or joining the dysregulation energy. That's underneath it or the fear. That's like like you said, you know, stop and think do I need to call nine one. But sometimes that it needs to stop comes with. And if my kid isn't learn how to stop like, if we keep having these episodes in the grocery store, my kids going to be in jail by the time these eighteen like, yeah. So we joked we start future tripping, you know, that that's a sign like no this about ourselves as soon as we go to that Mike it's going to jail. I'm going to have to send him books to read in jail, or what are know we go to this place. That's just a sign all that is assigned is that we've left the present moment. And I can't do anything to help my kid if I'm not here in the present with him. That's all I mean, it's it's like, oh, that's my sign. I started to go. Like, I'm bailing him out of jail. That's a sign with. Present moment. Okay. Comeback to present here now because my kid needs me here. Now, you might me what he's a job to you. But in this moment. He needs me right now. Yeah. Feature tripping is just a sign that were distributed in the present moment when I love what you said about even just the noticing and using other things that we tell our kids sees themselves on ourselves because sometimes we go immediately to what does my kid need. What's the communication behind the behavior and the kids Centric? Yes. Yes yet. But are it has the behavior? So that makes sense. But and we talk a lot about this year at the adoption connection to it's kind of one step ahead of the game. Like, you kind of have to start with yourself. Like do I need a drink of water or hyper teen snack? Do. I do. I need to use words like all could very much apply to meet like did. I not get enough sleep west thing way. Yeah. And if your kid isn't like rowing things that you you can do all those things. Right. Like, you could say like, hey, you know, what I'm going to posit? We're gonna come back to this in a second like sometimes kids are disrupted, but they're not. So. Dysregulates that you could absolutely do that. Sometimes he can't he can't pause for hyper teed snacker meeting. More than a. Okay. Because again, like if you think back about what we talk show, the brain. Last time is like I need the energy. I need that energy in my body. I need some sympathetic arousal. So that I'm attending to what's happening. But as soon as I go fear based I'm starting to lose connection to my prefrontal cortex. And now, I'm just not making good choices based on all the information that I know about how to help my kiddo. Right. So I want it's okay to have energy. I've never tried to convince people to stay calm through these things. Right. Like, it's okay to have sympathetic energy. It's okay to feel like like this has to stop right now. It's okay. To even say this has to stop right now in some situations. Right. I'm not asking for call. I'm only asking for regulated. How do we know the difference in? What permission can we give ourselves because I do feel like that's a really high bar in some of those moments are. Parents to stay calm, and I'm a high energy person you too at my that my call like my column is not everyone else's calm. So could talk about the difference between calm and regulated in terms of like the energy level because I think that's really free. Yeah. Yeah. It would it be. Okay. If I like walked you through in you may if it you anyone else who's is trained with me before may have seen or heard reduce before. But just like thirty seconds experiential that will help the listeners feel the difference in their nervous system. Yeah. So I want to preface this with if you're doing something that requires your tension like driving. Listen in come back to this later. But if you're listening in a place where you can just pause for second in really like get connected to your body in. He really hear my words without multitasking do that like just get a little comfy in your chair check in with your body? We're gonna take you through just a really brief thirty second exercise that will help you embody the difference between regulated not regulated. And then we can apply that to regulated with energy k. So I'm going to repeat a word. This isn't I did not make up this experience the experiential when I'm gonna I'm gonna repeat a word. And as I repeat that word, I want you to notice what's happening in your body. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. Imperfect. When listening what should take a breath? Good luck exhale just kind of like all of that energy. And just notice for second. What happened in your body as I repeated that word? And I want you to notice what happens next is. I say, yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. You can everybody's just take a breath. Longer here. Just notice what was happening. Due Melissa that you might even sharing that experience was like. You have the like I'm wearing near buds because we're recording talking to you. And like coming in at the same point in my body the nose like head down my body like weighty, and like almost a little oppressive and then the yeses like escaped like up. My body was a much shorter journey. Just because I have you know, they're coming in at like right out. It was very free like I felt much lighter. Yes. Yes. You're describing and most people do when I do this big groups all tell me how. For them. You're describing difference between like a closed in reactive state of the nervous system. Macdill on your center on versus the other state of our nervous system of open in receptive of MacDill off in it really is of binary system. Like, it's either on or off either might make the less on closed in reactive reminding was off in not more, open and receptive. Now, of course, if Mima goes on if there's it's like a dimmer switch, right? Like it's on a tiny bit or it's on a ton. Right. But it is just an on off system in dimmer that goes along with it in. So think about a time where you would have needed Simpson pathetic energy in it wasn't because you were in afraid some people talk about going to a sports game in being an audience in. It's like ten seconds to the end. And you know, it's like something super exciting is happening. Everybody's change. Cheering tearing teacher, or you know, I've I'm outside shooting hoops with my kid, and we're having fun right exercising. I've got sympathetic energy going there's active activity in my system. I'm not calm. But I am not distracted. I am not at risk are becoming just regulated. Really, right. Does the difference set makes it does? So like almost a sense of control, right? Like, so I'm at a sports event. You know, it's very, you know, down to the wire like the energy is high. But I'm not gonna make a decision that I'm gonna regret like my energy on. I'm still in control versus like a MiG on full force like my energy's, high my fear is high and I'm doing things that I probably wouldn't do if my brain was stopping me. Right. I mean, you're really talking about the ability to stay present with energy or not, right? Like, if I'm if I'm having a lot of energy, but I'm still fully engaged in my brain. And I'm having a lot of presence. Yes. I making choices about what to do. I mean dance eagle says regulation contains the ability to both monitor and modify I can check I can notice what's happening for me. I can change it if needed if I'm at a sports game in everybody's yelling screaming and cheering. I can monitor and modify that if I need to I don't need to modify it because everybody's doing the same thing. It's socially procreate. If I'm at church, I'm all of a sudden like what? I might meet Siddhu like monitor. Whoa. Like not appropriate for the situation. Right. So it's not about it's not just regulated per se. It's just not appropriate. I need to modify it, right and modify. That's because I'm still maintaining regulation, even though I have a lot of sympathetic energy. Yeah. So that's where we can be with our kids. If if I'm with a kid who has sympathetic energy going in. But there fear based in there yelling like they're like their energy is big. It's okay. For me to stay energetic. Just have to make sure I'm doing it from a place of regulation, not fear. And that's about noticing how those two things feel different in your own body. So is it helpful than when we do kind of match our kids energy to help them start. Like, do we almost need to match energy because they're not recognizing us with all their sympathetic energy. If were to low energy, yes. We as humans. We really need the experience of feeling mirrored in like gotten in seen 'em part of how we help people feel that way. Is we match their energy, right? Something about a tiny baby. Right. Who's like laughing really hard or something rightly his a lot of sympathetic sympathetic energy going. We get in there with that sympathetic energy. We're like, oh my gosh. You're cuter Ah-ha or whatever as opposed to. This is just the most precious baby. Right. Me matched the we mirror them. So they feel seen in Felton known the other idea. Now, this is just I don't know if this is the scientific recruitment per se, but what I experienced is that the if we want to help our kids come into regulation, we have to be closer to them. Regulation wise. Right. So if I've got super high energy sympathetic kiddo in I'm working hard to recall in really quiet down here. I'm just too far like my nervous system in. They're nervous. Don't are way. Too far in can't catch me. Right. It's too much of a gap to bridge. Yep. Okay. So we're in the moment with our kid or noticed our own action, our own energy level were noticed dairy action, and or energy level. So then what? So then it really depends on how you're assessing the level of their dysregulation. I am thinking about the brain about like is like a mild distribution where I could almost respond with just in like redirections. So I think about TV are I kind of Q like, oh, hey, buddy. Are you asking her talent? Let's try that again. Or, you know, we're still staying. I'm staying regulated. I'm seeing a gauge I'm actually communicating to this kid, my belief about them, which is that. I know they're pretty awesome kid. They could do it. Right. If they wanted to right, right? Like, you're not even if they wanted to. But then I know they have the capacity to do it. Right. That they're not just a bad kid. They could just ask again, you know, that's kind of like intro level dysregulation, disrespects Rousey nece. I have almost thirteen year old in we're doing this awhile. Because he's not a complex trauma kid, but he is have his brain on fire right now. Right with everything that's happening for him with adolescents creeping up and so I'm getting lots of Maui mild disrespect in cop. So I'm constantly all right, buddy. Know, but my point mostly that I'm staying in a regulated state of my nurses. Right. Like, I don't move to. You cannot talk to me that way you need to stop that right now in ask more politely. It's not so much words. It's the energy underneath the words. I could say like, oh, man. We can't talk to each other like that in this house. Let's try again like almost the exact same words, but with way different energy in. That's just that difference between that close, nurses. Don't in that open one. That's all that is yet that playful engagement is so powerful I stand at that. But yeah, I just figured out. I'm a seven on the ground which were supposed to be really fun. But I think playful, okay, I think I take what I mean. I mean, interesting practice. Yeah. Yeah. Well, okay. So that goes to another point which I think I do play full engagement, well like the first thousand times, so and I was just talking to someone about the other day like it's the ability to take each incident as an as its own like every time our kid is mouthy to us. It's still just nothingness. It just feels like not just nothingness because it's might be mouth penis every stinking day. Well, for sure I have two thoughts to that is one. That's just continuing to do our own work on our own stuff. Right. There were not when things happen repeatedly. We start to lose access to our prefrontal cortex. And then we start to dip into making new meaning out of their mouth Innis. Like this kid hates me. This kid is disrespectful. I'm a bad. Mom. I can't even my own kid. I can't let my talk to me like this. Or that makes me about. Like we start to fall out Haro when things happen repeatedly. That's just being. So that's continued work on checking checking in with ourselves. But also, I don't think we say it was enough to give ourselves for mission to sometimes like forgiveness, maybe to to just be human sometimes. Yeah. Sometimes thousand in one brood nastiness gets a rude nasty response back from us right now. And I remember when my kid was little like three inches talking to a mom in my mom grew. And who was beating yourself up over yelling at her kid? And I'm like, you know, sometimes what happens when you're a pain in the butt for a long time. Is that people yell at you, right? That's just life. We can't. We don't want to aim for that. But when it happens to be like, I'm like, oh, man. I just was human. Yeah. In our kids actually need that experience to our kids need that. That's like like you said like that's gonna be real life. Like, if you're a jerk to all your friends, like they're going to stop talking to you or they're gonna have or they might punch you or. Yeah. So we we follow it up with repair and omen. I'm sorry. Yell at you. I wish I had an on working, hard, whatever. Whatever whatever who we have to really like ourselves from it should just be human not right to this. This like held space. And I think you said this before like if we could get it ready third of the time mess it up a third of the time. And then like spend the other third of the time repairing the third that we must stop. Yep. But I think that is key like that to give ourselves the grace 'cause we all were human. You know, not none of us are superwomen super parents. You know, the whole nine yards. We all come with our own stuff. But then also not to take the liberty of that mess up and be like, well, you deserve that there. There is repair of like gosh, you know, I'm human. I have I have to give myself the grace to not carry the shame and guilt of that long term. But I also have to recognize that I could have made a better decision and says to repair that with my child, right? You're talking about passion. Yeah. Her our humanity. Well, and I think that's hells our kids so much too. Because you know, we're talking about what happens in the moment and some kids feel so much about that moment. So when we had that same kindness with ourselves than they can have the same kindness with themselves at the end of something like this is that kind of translate. So then if those kind of more cognitive playful their cognitive, we're still trying to get their most cognitive part of their brain in give them opportunity to just fall into regulation and not make a big deal out of it that doesn't work. What you've learned is my kids more just regulate than I initially assessed. Let's it and so then I go pretty quickly to using a more regulated or regulation based like movements based or maybe connection based approach. And so at that requires parents to do is caused on immediate misbehavior, right? Insa- inside my head like, okay. This thing that my kids doing is really bad. And I have to address it, and they need to know that they can't do it. And they need new ideas what to do instead. But their way they are past the point of being able to learn any of that right now. And so I'm going to make my focus just on. How do I get back in regulation with his kid? How evacuate connection with this kid could go? They're kind of like, you could go either way you could go into this either way like through movement or regulation or through connection member or maybe sometimes both. And then after that you come back to the teaching piece. So for me at my house that you still look like when my kid was younger, you know, he was starting to get super just regulated maybe about like homework or chores or practicing his insurance. You know that would look if I was being good. If I was regulated. I'm like, well, buddy. We need to. Let's take a break in go go outside and run around the house story best or why don't you go shoot hoops for five minutes. And then I wouldn't even say then come back to this. Because that's is regulating, but you know, or near simul, I'm gonna look for movement ideas movement ideas that my kid likes. Right. So be smart enough. Your kid hates getting on a scooter at Anessa terrible idea for intervention, right? Sometimes it's created a playful because dysregulates kids aren't necessarily gonna do we want them to do. And so we might have to take back to our in about like, hey, let's face it a mailman extra repasts. It's you can win. Right. So instead of like, hey, I think you need to take a movement break because you're very regulated. Right. Like, we have to be a little bit creative. And see if we can move them into some sort of moves that a thing it could be as simple as smaller movement like sucking in. So for me that's offering something through a straw. Snooty I think offering yogurt through straws great idea Colt. You can look at like extreme temperatures to like something really cold again, like really cold smoothie something like that sucking on a lollipop. Some movement doesn't have to be necessarily like gross motor movement. I'm gonna move my whole body. It can really is like smaller century interventions that engage our sensory system. Help our major the feel better help kids reconnect to their bodies race to. There's all these like regulation pieces that happen. I then we can go back to cortex the thing. The thing I see parents struggle with the most well actually worsted at let me say you can also rely on wherever connection based intervention like. Well, let's you know, if it's let's say it's something as simple as sitting down in homework is too overwhelming. Like, let me sit next to you and put my arm around you. And let's tackles homework problem together. Even though you know, you can't is completely capable of tackling this level of homework. Right that we're gonna look Hass all of those reasoning things about connection regulation. Now, if I'm having like, a more of an issue like, you know, archetype streaming us or like it's much more of a intense distribution than really what I'm doing. Is. Staying safe knocks are stink close enough to notice when they're they've come down enough to receive some sort of like engagement from me but far enough away that I'm not getting hurt or they're not hurting me. And I'm I'm just in the environment to like make sure nobody's getting hurts. Right. I'm not doing anything to. Try to make stop like you have to stop growing at me hobbies, right? That's a fear based response. You're not gonna stop doing it in this moment because you tell them to you. We're going to focus on like staying calmer selves, doing whatever Meyer mental changes have to be made in order to keep everyone safe. And that could be leaving the area your kids chucking, heart cleans, it you right there. There's different environmental shifts that we have to do than we stay close enough to notice like the curve the ark of the dysregulation you can start to learn your kids dysregulation signs and notice when has the shifted to if I offered a drink. They would probably say yes if I offered a snack. They would probably say, yes, if I offered like, hey, we are having a really hard time. Let's go shoot hoops throw second. And just forget about this talk about this later that they might actually say, yes. Or you know that if I picked up a balloon in lob. Zett in their direction favorite things to do is to initiate something that could be like a game of catch toss back and forth because of something comes into your visual system. Sensory wise in you, notice a a believe coming at you or a fall coming at your whatever you have handy near you in the house. That's not hard hard. Right. It's not checking something at someone. You're like initiating this thing like we're gonna catch. It almost always lob it back. It's just the way our visual system works. So in a something that starts to initiate, some sort of connection some spirit regulation allow the kids back in the regulation in later returned to hey, like this across this thing that happened. And I know some parents say like my kid will never let that happen. What the my answer to that? Is you just have a kid is not regulated enough yet? This all of us want your appear all of repair and refusing to repair refusing to re-engage in the thing that happened. You know, talk about the thing that happened just means that they're not regulated enough. There's too much shame that comes up around it in a can't yet. So it's just a process how did kids who have attachment struggles. Where because we have a couple kids who fall in this category. And you know, I was connected parenting. All the way, and I in hindsight, thank like, some of the ways that I was trying to connect probably were not helpful because in that moment in there just like relation like that was continuing to scare them. Like, it was that thing. So are there ideas about kind of connecting in a way, that's like just sterile? Enough to not like trigger. Although like intimacy and attachments things will help our kids. Co regulate off of us not too great thing to be aware of that our kids can only receive such connection before that the connections rating. And so I think offering Punic Shen in in these more concrete ways should wonderful way to offer you drink by offering a snack by offering something that you know, is going to help them regulate when what you really want to do is. Punish your consequence them? You know doesn't have to come with. And now sit and talk about our now have a hug or more. Moreover, things at the oftentimes we're longing for because we really want to connect to this kid. We want them to come next back with us. Really? You know, exactly what you're saying. Like, how can I how can I offer connection in state of bailable free connection right while all offering it in a way, that's kind of sterile enough. That the connection other become more distract, and I like the idea of like tossing something back and forth because I feel like that goes back to like the rhythmic thing we talked about last week. And and I like the DEA of understanding how the brain just reflexively will react to that. Because I mean, you kind of just hacking, you know, you're like hijacking the brain in a way that's also super helpful in the situation, which is fantastic. We have also found that, you know, obviously, if your lips flipped their certain things, you can't do without like an reconnecting to your regulation system. And so like we said a kid who had like threatened to run away until we would offer to help count her piggy Bank with are like, oh, if you're going to run away your need some money and then in the process of counting her piggy Bank regulation girl with a while. Yeah. And then you can't do math without like that part. And so it kind of would like, you know, she gets the end. She would have you know. A certain amount. And then you can kind of sneak in one of those other things like, hey, you know, it's been awhile since you've had a snack. You even have a snack before you leave. You know us kind of like played like we played into it. But then kinda played it now. And then eventually like it when it was actually time to quote run away. She's like, oh, maybe I wanna stay for another night. Yeah. I mean, you I mean, you just described beautifully the concept of really leaning into the dysregulation, right? Like, you moved into what was happening for her as opposed to like that. You can't do that. That's ridiculous or whatever. Whatever whatever, you know. Like, you mean into it and allowed found another way to kind of sneak in again, some regulation. Some first of all there's like rhythm that goes back and forth in your relationship. Right. But then counting the counting the coins and again having to do some very simple math engages the prefrontal cortex. So that was instinctually brilliant yet only worked like twice, but it was great. When it worked. I'm actually. Yeah. Like nothing works forever. But but yeah. But now, but it's the concept right now. And we do have to unfortunately, keep chronically being creative because as much as he's kids. I believe Pollino, my chorus which is kids do want to connect. And you want to regulate? The also have another part of them that doesn't because it's just so scary. Right. And so there's this constant inner battle that. These these kids have about like desperate for connection in connection has been one of the worst things that's ever happened to me in this this battle, they're always internally dealing with. Yeah. What do you tell parents who are struggling to remember that like we all know it in our heads? But sometimes when our kids are treating us little burgers for too long. You know, we start like you said before like we start reframing that story of like, you know, they hate me manipulative, they're controlling. So how do we as parents do the work? And maybe it's the answer is just go find a really good therapist area. I don't know. But they're like other simple things that we can do to help. Stay connected to our curious compassionate hearts, without you know, like, yeah. Well, media gopher Risher second to that is go find somebody can be who you can have a reflective relationship with. So that that you trust. So that when you start saying this things like so many people tip. I'm just so sick of this like, LA, blah, blah. There says he wants to connect. That's just crap. You know, you're like you have somebody who will hear that in hold it for you in eventually give you some reflection that you end up Enviro cushion. I just mean like I don't mean like reframing I just need presence presence. So that your brain has its own natural ability to eventually calmed down new. Remember, what your truth is? Right. Doesn't a therapist a great idea? It doesn't have to be a therapist somebody who's willing to be with you in that in give you presents through all that. So that your brain can do it. It's going to do which is essentially home now. That would be like numero dose the next best thing to do. But I also like in my own office. I had like little pieces set in my eyes site. So that I can I have like concrete reminders of my truce. Right. Like, I have framed the, quote, I've never met a true self at haven't fallen in love with you know. So that when I'm struggling to remember a half is very visual like Brazil tation of like. Oh, yeah. I know. That's my truth. I know I don't feel that all right now. But I do I do remember that. That's right truth. And I have a couple other quotes. And I'm a couple of like photographs up in my office that helped me like reconnect with these things that I know are true. And so I can touch in with them and get some regulation when I can't do these other things. Talk to my therapist, actually, reflected listener, or so I I have to actually really believe things connections of biological imperative. We don't lose it. It's underneath there somewhere. Like a have to really believe that an yeah, I've truly been strategic about placing things in my office. So that I can go, and if there is somewhat less than in who I don't know has connection to like a wallpaper manufacturer at once. Create, you know, wallpaper for all of us be greater. Yeah. No, that's great. And I've heard people talk about even like remembering back to the first time. You saw your child's picture. The first time you met him or her because I think those are tend to be the times when we were feeling all the truths that we know. Baby picture for people say that they find like the youngest picture possible. But especially like a crying baby. So that they can have memory like this terrible behaviors just the crying baby crying, baby. Didn't have the motor skills to throw things at me or the linkage to custody out. But this behavior is just a crying baby. And her parents said about could be a helpful way to kind of ground in the moment to. Yeah. Well, thanks for all this tips. Anything to say to parents who feel like they're always in the moment. Yes. Yes. I do. And I when I teach this workshop that I teach have a slide that specifically about that. Like what if this is always your kid? So then I I mean, if you're if you're talking about like constant esscalation to the point of danger throwing cut, you know, like chronic real danger. We're just talking about like this kid needs probably higher mobile care than in home environment in that sad and tragic, but until we can figure out a way some sometimes psycho pharmacologically with meds, or you know, to these columnists can system enough that they can be safe out in real world. We might have to explore some of those kinds of options if you have a kid sick like chronically disrespectful or chronically, you're tainted in they're always like, no, no, no. I don't want to do that. I don't wanna do that do that. My best advice appearances initially, really focused on a again, kind of all that outside the moment stuff. Even though it feels like it's always the moment, but constantly thinking about like nutrition hydration movement. Sensory needs structure predictability. Like all these things that as parents, we could have control or provide in a way that isn't overtly connection based right? But that you know, we're we're wanting to get at their brain that lowest level of like real brain stem stuff food nutrition movement, and then we have to low our bar that comes along with it in remember that like nobody wants to be disrespectful like we're designed to be in relationship with each other. And certainly with the people who are keeping us alive in. So if I can get this child's brain calmed down in these other ways, more appropriate behavior will emerge are real. I have worked with some of the toughest kids on outpatient basis. Right. Like outpatient, therapists, don't work with kids at our escalating, too, impatient. Status because that's not what I offer. But. I'm at a point in my life, where I work for his kids, and I have seen this. I've seen this happen over and over and over again, if we focus on those pieces trust that if I regulate their brain eventually, I will be able to say, hey, try that again, the respect in actually will actually happen. Yeah. I think that's huge to hear the hope to know that we just have to keep doing it in that these things work, and that there is a true self under all the throwing the Cussing than the crazy anti pre sheet that 'cause I know you do work with really hard kids. And you know, there's always like little person in the back of your head. That's like does this work without like Christmas really worked fully worked with kids. Is it going to work with my kid? I'm sure I'm the only kid that this isn't going to work with. I'm I have those questions to those there there to like, oh my gosh. Maybe this kid is is gonna prove me wrong. That's just me being distributors. And I've learned to like notice that some. In the moment. But almost certainly after the moment, and I've got my kids that I deny the hardest kids the I can go like, Nope. If it worked with that kid, no reason to think, it's not gonna work this one. Yeah. Whole robyn. Thank you so much just to be available for to share your experiences to cheer was done. And for just really practical things that we can do that's helpful super definitely always my honor to be here in talking with you in reaching more people. I'm so grateful for your platform. So thank you for having. Well, I just love Robin. She is so gifted and so generous to share all of this with us. I think the thing that I'm hearing from her that strikes me the most is that really before we can calm our child. We have to calm ourselves. And I know that but having more tools is just hugely helpful. And if I know is helping for me is probably going to be helpful for our listeners as well. Yeah. One of the things that I'm not sure came out completely in our conversation. But I have heard her say since then which I just has been rolling around in my mind is the difference between calm and regulation because it's such a route gli, I think a little bit different concepts and such a nuance. But I think one that could be so transformative in the way that we see our kids when they're starting to get out of control. So anyway, I just I've been thinking a lot about that. Yeah. It's definitely something. I am going to apply and really work with with my kids because I think it could help a lot again if you want to connect more with Robin. She does some amazing webinars she's been partnering with a lot of amazing guests you can find her on Facebook under Gobel counseling and her last name is spelled G O B B E L. You can also check out her website and blog at Goba, counseling dot WordPress dot com. If you don't want to remember any of that or driving or washing dishes and up to others and sip water. You can always head to the show notes for links to that in addition to links to part one of this interview as well as where to find Robyn Robbins also been gracious enough to give our listeners a free. Download so you can check all of those things out at the show nuts at the adoption connection dot com slash twenty six. We've come to the part in the podcast that we call mentor moments where we answer listener question. So this week's question is when you have been in the trenches and people say things like you knew what you were getting into or it was your choice to adopt or something similar or they give off that vibe. How does one gracefully respond? Well, I think it's very hard. Sometimes especially when we are just so raw because we are getting everything we've got, and I, you know, I think it's okay to say, yes, we did choose to adopt. And we made the best decision. We could based on everything we knew and you're right. We didn't know what we were getting into you. Because I don't think anything can prepare us necessarily for the degree of trauma, and that our children have experienced in the challenges that they bring it's you know, we we went through a lot of training before we adopted, and I mean, I had a background in mental health, and we went to a specialized training just people adopting with yoga. We did. You know, all the training that our agency wanted us to do and I'm thankful for that. I'm thankful for all of that background. But while I nothing could have prepared us for a child with the. Degree of challenging behaviors that we faced from the very beginning. And I also think it's really easy for people to think that they know how to fix it. Or if they were doing it. They could do it better. But you, and I know all of us my listeners listen to us. We all know that that's not true because you know, what they're not doing it. And I could get a little hot mad here because I've faced a Salat. I mean, I've had people tell me that they when I tried to explain about attachment disorder and complex Phil mental trauma. I've had people tell me that they know all about that. Because they learned a little bit about it when they were in college in the course of their degree, and I just think. Wow. Well, you know, how I learned about it. I learned about it because my child was diagnosed with it, and my child was attacking me. And my child was exhibiting these extreme behaviors. And there's a very big difference for learning a little bit about it and living it, and so I think we can be gracious in that we don't punch them in the noser, you know, say something really really rude. But I also think we can be honest and just say, I appreciate your concerns. But really, we have all the resources and help that we need and thanks for your opinion, or whatever, what do you think Melissa guess ahead? Let sip. No, I I agree with all of that. And we had a similar situation where someone else thought that they knew better than us. Someone who is actually willing to help our daughter emancipate herself from us because she thought we were so much of a problem. And I know I mean, the stories people you just can't make these things up, but I would say again to me being graceful would be not punching them. And I think it actually is super graceful to be really direct because this is a person who may say this to some other family down the road in less. Maybe they haven't encounter with someone who's willing to put their foot down and say, that's not helpful. You have no right to say that the just not helpful in any part. And I think a lot of times people say these things us because our pain actually makes them feel uncomfortable. They are uncomfortable watching us walk this out, and they need to point blame somewhere. And so they pointed back at us like it's our fault because we made that choice. And none of us knew what we were getting into just. That played in simple. And I would just also say I'm a really big fan of foundries. And so I know that this is a really sticky situation, especially if the person who is implicated in the question is a family member. But you know, we have enough on our plates to deal with and we can have loving firm boundaries with people who continued to contribute to our trauma, and our crisis, and it is a long convoluted story, but I actually have had to make boundaries even with my parents, and I love them and we live with them. And but we have a dark moment where we did have to have some really hard conversations. And I had to say this is an okay, and you know, what has come of that now their whole preschools trauma informed. So I think the way that we can do this in a way that preserves relationships, but is also really direct and just like our kids, we could not control how other people respond to us. And so I'm really grateful that my parents, listen and were able to have an open conversation. Maybe you have friends or family members who can't end you can't control that. But I think it's okay to draw down for yourself. And I think with people have faith one of the best things we could see is. You know, what we we prepared us? We could we didn't know this was what it was like in lead. Really appreciate your press. Absolutely. So if you would like to submit a question for a future episode, you can send your question to Email at the adoption connection dot com or our favorite option. Call it in. So we can hear your voice at two zero eight seven four one three eight eight zero it doesn't ring anywhere. It's just literally recording hotline if you would like to talk through any issue, that's affecting your family more closely. We would love to grab a quick chat with you. We offer private coaching your session as always free. You can find more information about that. 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THE #1 SECRET TO GETTING AWAY FROM THE FEATURE BATTLE

The Brutal Truth About Sales and Selling

39:21 min | 4 months ago

THE #1 SECRET TO GETTING AWAY FROM THE FEATURE BATTLE

"Boy We've got a good one for you today another top sales rep. so continuing this series, I had posted on linked in asking for the best sales people that you knew. And what's good about this as you get pretty much here, the whole career. All in one episode and some of the key distinctions that I try and pull out mindset background career strategy working with managers, and following great managers from company to company. not focusing solely on the product features and functions and getting into talking about what the client and the prospect care about. Finding problems, building up real deals that distinction between an order taker and a sales person I think you're really going to like this as well as somebody who has a lot of energy and a passion for the profession. and. It's great that somebody finds the. So early in their career right out of college and I know the company that she I went to, and I worked for a manager who came out of there, and the company has kind of a meat grinder boiler room, style reputation not that they weren't selling a great product into a B. Two B. Market. But they were doing it with kind of. Internal high pressure metrics driven and they were dominant in the space and that kind of worked I'll I'll some up that part of the story at the end? Before we get in make sure you're checking out our friends over at co video video emails, real distinction that you can have in your communication with both clients and prospects. Definitely recommend it for maybe not the first one but sequential emails as a way of getting away from the touching base shaking. See how things are going it's a way of. Them wanting to talk with you away of not only just sharing who you are and what you're up to in what's new at your company, but to allow them to kind of see who you are as a person. So let's get it into the interview. I'll summit up at the end. Here we go. Hey Michelle. Thanks for coming on the show today as a way to getting started tell us about yourself. Great to meet you so yeah, Michelle Bovi I live in Boston and I've been in sales for about ten years now and I absolutely love what I do. It's You know most people say you know they work just to make money for their family I work because Julie of what I do every single day. So excited to be here. And that's about it. Cool. You started off in such an easy job at parametric, commit such a alley. Yeah. Such an easy easy job there. Yes. Always. Friendly people. Exactly. So it's it was actually the best thing ever I remember interviewing. Coming out of college and I interviewed for software biomedical and Pharma cells jobs a new one to do sales because I love people love to talk to strangers. Everyone's been telling me some says it like basically middle school you're gonNA do sale someday. So I kind of had my heart set on that and then I went to interview at P.. C., for software only software company I interviewed for and they told me if you start with us, you will be in Las Vegas on Monday at our sales kickoff and I with is twenty one almost two years old coming out of. College I said I've never been to vegas I am so in took that job, not knowing anything about software or T. C. but it was the best decision ever was there for five years promoted four times in five years in they taught me everything I need to know but they were hard on us and that was kind of my favorite thing because I'm competitive and you're not the best of the best there they let you know in you'll be gone but it was I loved it cut throat but but very good and that's why they had so much success over the years. because. I worked with a lot of people who came out of there. And it fits. A certain sale very well I mean they had it down to a science. At. But what was it like selling to that persona because you probably didn't talk to cad engineers in college right now so yes funny. You say that I actually remember sitting down day one saying what his cat and look. With cad E. stood for computer aided design. And I went home. So I was kind of a little dirty in college with a studying like I like to get as and I went home and I made flash cards and I looked up what cadman basically what every detail in Cadman so that when I talk to people, I could actually sound a little bit intelligent but selling to the mechanical engineers and everybody in engineering. The tough thing to do my dad thankfully and brother are in nineteen engineering. So I got some help there but I took a different approach I actually went out and said while I cannot learn every single day about feature and function. Of An engineering tool and go to engineers about that because they're going to always know more than I do. The they've been in the Career Fifteen, twenty years I took the approach to go and actually learn about their companies and learned go read annual reports go read about the person that I'm talking to have more conversations in ask questions. So my big thing was I had you know fifteen questions always tonight, they would always start with Ted meaning t for telling. Me explained to me described to me very open ended questions so that I could just get a ton of stuff I break down everything and then when I went back to the next time, it was a very much. Oh, when you said before instead of talking about, you know the most technical detail to do his catt software. So I took that approach but. In where'd you get that? Did they teach you that or did you figure that out on your own They did teach a little bit of that They were very big on force management training medic, or mid pick training. They'd yeah they Thomas all of that. But at the same time I kind of always say in sales, you have to put yourself in their shoes and what I mean by that is the same way that I go shopping for car. I don't want someone selling me a coop like a two door car when I knew I, want an suv I love twenty two inch wheels like I know what I want right I. Don't want want to come in just pitch to me of coop when that's not even in my mind what I want it's the same thing talking to clients you can't just pitch feature function when you don't understand anything about what they want so ask. Oh, what are you looking for in a car? What do you want in a car? The same thing same approach when when selling softwares really walking in the door with credibility especially when I was twenty two years old and one of the only females in that job I knew I had to stand out. So it was all about reading about my customers studying a pretty funny. Still. To this day, actually even flash cards. So learn new technology at my new companies well. Data analytics is not as simple as you think, there's actually a ton about you know key terms you need to know in every day trying to get better. Yeah. That's I mean certainly, PT was a technical product share. Of. At. Now how long did say inside very long did you Know. So there's about forty of inside sales and. Outside basically in outside sales they called me overland. In under a year. So about ten months I was promoted. Three of us were promoted out of the forty ish. The young was one of them and it was cutthroat. It was awesome. I love it like bringing on i. like the competition I liked how they were very much performance driven so. They would stack ring people every day and that just made me want to do more and more each day. I loved it. But yeah, I was I was out in the field within about ten months in nat for me went from having a job in inside sales to really seeing where my career could go the second I was in and outside sales. I knew this was the career for me. I was like I get to meet people every day New People everyday get to go to lunches to dinners. It was fantastic I was on a plane I think for about two years straight getting to go to cities I've never been I'm just living out of a suitcase but it was Absolutely worth every second of it. Fantastic company to work for and they're still doing. Great. and. Where's the competitiveness come from? Is that Lacrosse and basketball and soccer yet a I still to this day amid may I have to admit I'm in my early thirties now and I still play if Kobe wasn't happening soccer six times a week in basketball few times as well too. So from not working, that's that's honestly all idea but I love sports I, love anything competitive it's if it's a card game if it's a drinking game if it's anything competitive you for me, it's sometimes friends don't live to play them with me because they know I can't take anything just normal I have to win. Yeah. Is it the fun of winning or the hatred of losing. I'd say. A little bit of both but it's more. It's more the hatred of losing times I have to say. Something about it. It's just it's how I grew up. I've been since I was a little kid and you know with grades in schools I'd get mad if it was a b plus. Minus a same way with sports. So just everything that I do I like to do really well and sports especially. Watching sports, playing sports. It's my favorite I think it definitely is a strength to have those policies in sales sometimes. P always asking me if you don't love sports play sports can still be good at sales in the question is yes. Oh, there are so many different ways you can be great at sales. I. Just think that for sure helps the competitive drive. The work work ethic is essentially as hard as you work your compensation is reflective of that. At and Sports is game and sales is a game and you win or you lose exactly right and and the other thing is you have a coach and sports. And teammates. Exactly Some feedback. Exactly. Yeah we're in. It's. It's funny because people think sale houses, Sales Rep, and you go out the door and sell, but it's not like you're selling knives door to door right like. Might have done in high school kind of thing you have a team rate I have a team of reps and engineers in customer success in services and product managers marketing. We have a team that go out together. It really is a team sport led by our leaders who are constantly giving you feedback to get better i. always tell people if you feel like you're not getting better every single day than you need to go move and do something else because I think this career is all about development in getting better every single day. And then you want to sell another hard product right APP dynamics. That's I did. Yes. So APP dynamics. So it's actually funny the people I worked with at P. see a lot of them went to companies. Some of them may Oh boss actually went to act. And he brought me there I remember on the plane to boot camp. It was I was on the plane got hired on like a Friday in the you're going to boot camp on Monday and same exact thing how I look at what cad was I had to look at. Them for dummies. So I actually read on the plane out to San Francisco Sunday night like a twenty page document. I was APM for dummies application performance monitoring I was looking up everything. I could ever know about it in just making flash cards studying so that when I went to boot Camp I wouldn't be too embarrassed That that to me was game changing. Company I've worked for just spectacularly was even PTC on steroids everyone. There was sharp still there Super Super Smart Intelligent people great character. In just the best of the best and if if they hold people to very high standards in if you don't have those, you know you won't get in and you won't last but I love that right? I? Won't be the new. England patriots of the NFL bill ballot check holds his team to Berry is standards and that was APP dynamics. Actually may leader in New England was very much like that and we all respected in because he expected the best from us every single day. And how is that transition going from selling to mechanical engineers to probably architects infrastructure people. Exactly, so you have to learn about what they care about every single day rate, but what I always stay in sales is. What's transferable is that? Every single company you go to whether I'm selling at P. T. C. or APP D. are now thought spot one thing stays the same and that is learning about the people you sell to bring him value and not just learning about the feature and function ins and outs of your tool. You have engineer at your side to help you do that. But really what's GonNa make people actually want to meet with you is showing them that you know everything about their business and you found a problem that they need to solve. Hopefully, technology can solve that problem. But. If you know, you have to start by reading annual reports learning about the people you sell to what they care about rightly whether it's mechanical engineer or an architect, you have to understand what they're paying problems are every single day and not what feature to just go pitch to them. and. What kept you focused on that because most collies don't do that they teach you about the product. I'll tell you why certain people have strengths and weaknesses. Mice. Strength is understanding of business and people by weakness in sophomore sales is kind of understanding the INS and outs of technology. Other, people are fantastic at understanding twenty levels deep about a database I go to levels deep about a database. I don't need to be talking widgets that's not solving a massive problem for the company. Would I've realizes how do you do big deals in massive deals with these companies? You solve big problems for them. You don't check a box on a function of a database. You solve a problem because they want to improve their NPS score with their clients. They WANNA have whatever it is but whatever the ROI is back to their business that they're trying to improve focus. On that and if you focus on that, that's also way more relatable to other companies. So you start telling that story if you're working with a CVS or the Hartford or whoever it is, you tell that story about how you help the retailer Insurance Company and go to the next retail insurance company telling that story, and then you start to do more and more deals instead of telling the next retail company Oh i I saw this little database, a technology they. Scale and you're not going to be super successful over and over again. About the feature function. So really just focusing on the big business problems that you know these people care about. and. Did. You get leads there or was it a lot of outbound? Her has never worked at a company where people just hand you deals. We do have BDR's. Fantastic that will help us cold Carl essentially and marketing who will throw events and do stuff like that. Hopefully, we'll get somebody viewing white paper maybe. Never that they're contacting US asking for a Demo I've seen in my career that probably five times it's more of you know we're in different time I. Like a are picking up the phone and cold calling people thought was dead it's not you still have to do that especially with the competition nowadays most companies or start ups I like to go out there and work at companies where they haven't heard of US rate. I like the thrill of me going to somebody saying you know, hey, have you heard of us in they say no, it's I love that because. Michael thing is I don't want to just manage accounts where they just keep coming back in purchasing from. US year after year like it sounds great. But to me, there's no thrill in that I WANNA go out and solve problems for companies, and that's how you make your name in the industry is when I go to the next I just came through thoughts now and I can go to the people I've. Sold to in the past where they say Michelle has solved massive problems for us with APP dynamics. Of course, I'll take her call versus I sold them a widget that does one thing and that's fine people like to do that. I like to solve problems for these companies so that they can keep calling me over and over in in in having a great relationship for the next twenty years hopefully with them. and. Brought thought spot. Sure. So just like people from. DC. When do after you together. The same exact thing from APP dynamics when people started to even want to go do it again and there's still people have APP d today they're still killing it in. Still. The Best Company I've ever worked at they were fantastic. A lot of people did leave and WanNa go do that new startup mentality again. So there is about three companies that everybody went to. But did leave bought spot being one of them and I go to companies. Yes. Because of technology always look into the tech a read reviews I talk to pass clients of mine that are very technical to understand it but I really follow people you got work with people that you love people that you trust people that every day you wake up and want to do better for those people in our CIERO are basically our whole leadership team here is why came here for sure I trust them they. They really care about the people that worked for them more than anything. It sounds weird because we're in sales you think just care about money and bring accompanied. IPO, which is very important. But they care about the people that they're developing. They want to change their lives and I felt that from our leadership team into me, it was an absolute no brainer to come follow them here. So I came to the. Fore the people since then the technology what I realized his been, it's almost back when people only knew of horses and now the cars being invented it's the same thing with dot spot in analytics. It's almost like people had no idea that what we do out there and once they see it and hear of it. They're you know they're blown away essentially, but it's almost the future of analytics in it's finally here. And again, you're selling to a completely different persona, right? Back. Bring on the challenge each time like I said. Wasn't matter who it is that we sell to, but you have to be consistent. The same thing day one we got here we learned about our clients. That's the first thing we did. We said before we pick up a phone before we email anybody do anything I have a I have a Rolodex of people I didn't pick up the phone and call them. I still have not called all of them yet. Don't tell me yet CIERO that but. I between us. Between a shirt the whole thing is though go do your research go read about them go read their annual reports like I said, talk to people at the company understand what they're going through as a digital transformation in data go learn everything you know before you go actually pitch them your product you got to be patient essentially an who cares about this in your customer spaces a CFO is that operations as it? So it's it's pretty funny. I'd say it's everyone but. I'll kind of explain why but we are essentially analytics for the business user. So there's analytics for the technical users. There's a lot of. Technologies out there that are for the analysts who make dashboards every single day we more focused on who the business users that do not know how to query and are not super technical rights almost like me, right how do I consume all this data? That's who we sold to the CIO and the chief data officer typically care about it, and then ahead of architect who wants to connect to their cloud data warehouse in instantly searched their data. In consumer data rate is as simple as search in Google. Those are the typical people that actually care and but really anybody we sell to HR to procurement to marketing to the business to not it's. It's really any group with a use case where they have been taunted data and they want to get the most granular level of that data and they wanna do really fast and they don't WanNa wait five days for dashboard. They want instantly as fast as you would search on Google or Yelp or Nino ordering newburgh. Just ask you get that data back in your personal lives. We give it to you that fast in your business life well. But who do you start with within a target prospect? Sure. I would. I would typically go try to go right to a CIO or do, and that's day. One. Ultimately. You're probably going to be bounce down to somebody on their team. Maybe you go for somebody in data analytic sets a little bit. You know maybe director level or something like that in insurance like if you look at certain version. To someone in charge of claims, we help specifically with claims use case. So it's honestly you can sell to the business you can sell to it. It's almost the beauty of working here. You could spend your whole year in five accounts at this company because you can. So to everybody, you don't have to sell to it. You can honestly sell to anyone in the company at any level. As long as they have, they need to consume and they WANNA ask questions to it and they want to get in instances almost like ad hoc. Analytics you can sell to them so. It's really anyone but ultimately, cio and chief data officer. and. Have you been only there seven months? Have you gotten your feet underneath you? Did you feel at home yet? Yes, for sure I'd say we've changed so much in the past six months it's crazy retirement. We've. Come. Out like. We now concert cloud data warehouses. We now have a thoughts about cloud offering we basically. Just in the last few months have even changed our pricing options, all different pricing that we can offer people and we've also landed a lot more big customer. So it's just every day things change and I love it. It's part of the fun and part of the thrill is you know when I even was at other companies in PD like if something came out in the product it. Might be six months right? This stays something has changed in two days. Something new is out. So it's just asked paste and always changing in they're keeping up with what our customers are saying in requesting and were adopting to it. So it's been yeah. I feel at home and I've got a great team just took over Canada a month ago as well. So yeah, I'm I'm learning. To speak a little French Tim. So yeah. Trying to do is to individual contributor or are you I'm a leader. So I I lead I was into individual contributor at P., T., C. A.. Inside sales to outside sales did that for years went to APP dynamics outside sales became an RFID regional director of New England there did that event came to thoughts spot and have a New England upstate New York in all of Canada. So M- leading an outside sales team of reps who cover accounts basically. Large enterprise accounts. And what do you look for in Reps? Will. This is fun. I. Intelligence is number one for me. But when I say intelligence I, don't mean just book smart I mean emotional intelligence being able to have a conversation with human common sense street smarts because people buy from people they like if you can't have a conversation with them. It's usually not going to go very far have to stand out from the other hundred sales reps that are contacting the CIO right? You can't sound robotic. You can't be boring I want somebody who's GonNa come in and make me remember them right so. On top of that intelligence though you have to be smart I also like somebody who's coach -able rate wig in a field where every day we should get better just like myself I welcome feedback Bi directionally from anybody all the time. We have to get better every day. So you need somebody who's coach -able and willing to get better every day and then character just making sure they're a great person in that. So those are the three things that I typically look for in. Apt. Next kind of put us made sure that whenever we hire somebody that was you know those were the requirements the really for me it's like this person handle conversation with anybody whether they're talking to an engineer, a cio you know an end user anybody right? Any background. Just, being able to adapt to conversations with people your human can you be human with the people you're selling to? At, and how was your transition into leadership because it's a different job? So different. Yes. It was tough because you know just being transparent I was I think the youngest leader and the only female at the time. So since then there's actually been a lot of females promoted when it was acting you mix which was really great to see but it was tough it first right like. Day One when you come in in your new leader in instantly, everyone knows how wow she's young and she's a female it's kind of like intimidating rate but you have to find how you can help each person. The biggest thing about being a leader is you don't just coach everybody the same you have to find out the strengths and weaknesses while motivates each individual. You might help one person with just one small tiny thing but the other. With a broad set of capabilities, so you just really have to. Just like you learn about your clients before you sell to them, you'll learn about your people before coach them learn what they're good at ask them what they're good at ask them where they think they need help observe for the first thirty sixty whatever however many days it is before you start coaching them. So it's all about individual learning before you actually start coaching, but it's been fantastic and it's a lot of fun I enjoy being leader and you get to talk to more clients every day. So that's the other for me. The more people I talk to the happier em. So I like I like leading a bigger team scrape. And what was the adjustment like because you go from that winning the hunting and the Because that's a very different feeling than doing it with people start. Yes I mean it's Just to say, I, I have not stopped hunting I have actually Pequoima list tonight that I'm GonNa to. My team get to. If anything, it feels even better right like I'm helping change reps lives on my team if they're not having a scanning to you in E B economic buyer and they need help doing that challenge me to me it's like I'll go do it at night I'll go try to get in the door for you and Then once we do, it's together we're going to go win this deal so we still do it but yet it's it's a lot different. You're not talking to clients one hundred percent of the time, but you are talking to people one hundred percent of the time. It's just internal people and external people. So as long as you care about people in general helping clients helping you know internal employees as well. You'RE GONNA love being leader. How during the interview process do you determine other than talking to them that e.? Q.. A I think it's more than Ecu, the empathy, but the ability to like you described the Ted. Thing and understanding what they're going through outward mindset is kind of what I call. Share. People don't have it. Fake during the interview right Getting interviewed. I. Interview. More people than anyone I feel like maybe that's because I know in Boston offer sales is just most people. I feel like everyone does software here Africa companies but I'd I interview a ton of people like some people will just go talk to because they've narrowed it down resumes and they've talked to other people about them and they have to people that are going to interview I. Mean I've interviewed fifteen people for one and sometimes it might sound crazy. But I also have I mean I have an excel sheet where the people I've interviewed. I've thought of if they don't work here in D maybe they'll work at thought spot maybe they'll work you know. In this role, this relic iced interview people, Yoon if they're not for the job today, maybe for the future but to get to that question an e q i There's certain questions I usually start with tell me about yourself kind of can you did for me? Simple, questions like that I. Kinda WanNa see people smile if they're happy. You know if they're talking to me like a person. On top of that I usually ask someone to explain a complex thing in simple tournament Good question that usually can understand if if they're intelligent or not. But to get to really their E. Q. I will ask them questions about sales they've done. Tell me about a champion that you built in why their champion to tell me about another one you did and I really liked to understand the people aspect of selling because like we said many times in this in this conversation, featuring function will only get you so far. But having champions to get deals done is reporting and I asked a ton of questions around champions and what problems they solved for them just to see if these really are. People that have helped them bring the the deal over the line. As opposed to just servicing them, you know servicing Ma'am all you need. To POC quote. I WANNA know these people they've sold to and how well they know them like tell me about this person, right like what are they? What are they like? What do they do for fun rate an understanding if this person actually gets to know them or if they're just taking orders and you know servicing the business Louis you said versus actually solving a problem getting to know these people and a lot of my clients are my friends to this day. I'm talking to one tonight when I go for a walk. Giving him a call just to catch up in a not selling spotted on you need will throw it in there a little bit Ka. It's more of just to catch up in these a very good friend of mine and we keep in touch after that's what I'm looking for. I'm looking for somebody who has the ability to connect with people on a level unlike the average salesperson. He's been a fun conversation Where can people go to follow in connect with you? Share. So I say linked in that's the best way to get a hold of me. Michelle both the E and you'll see me at thought spot if you look it up. But yeah, that's that's the best way to get in touch with me. I don't I have face moving on just don't you don't. Friends Make Fun of me 'cause I'll go out to dinner in on Lincoln sending messages at all times Mike it's the best thing ever. I. Love. Yet. That's really it. I loved that interview. Let me summit up kind of from my perspective. What I saw was the great mindset the competitiveness of the desire to win. The youthful energy that we have when we just get out of college. And money motivation and the ability to put yourself in the other person's place. Now, some of those things usually take long time for us to learn some of us, pick it up quicker than others, their skills they're not easy there counter intuitive and a lot of cases. But when when it all comes together, it becomes magic and what I also heard in the interview was that Mafia career strategy meaning that you followed and great managers took you with you to better and better opportunities or different opportunities that have a better upside for you or at least give you that option and this is a strategy that I've seen a lot of people work and it's hard because it has to be a good manager because you don't WanNa follow a bad manager from company to company, and if the good manager is in good, they're not to go to good companies. Because our career when we work in be to be you know accompanies important the managers super important the territory, the comp land, the product trying to get all of those things to come together. At the right time. So timings in there. So it is kind of like being a enterpreneur and a lot of ways a lot of things have to click for to really work. And that that's hard to do. But what ends up happening is if you make it a snowball versus as you know trial and error snowball means like every time you roll the snowball down the hill, it gets bigger and bigger this compounding instead of a cyclical circadian. Rhythm meaning that you just repeat the same groundhog day over and over again. So I, think what you should take out of this interview and maybe listen to it a couple times is understanding. Those questions that that putting yourself from the client's place finding a problem talking about what they care about? And then matching that up with how to justify it from a business standpoint now. I these are pretty much covered the two courses that I have. You know the magic course of start the conversation get the meeting where you can dissect out how to talk to a stranger and build up curiosity to interest interest urgency urgency action. These are talents. These are very. Advanced selling skills. It's not a template. It's not again mick how to subject line. It's a sequence of steps of starting where the client is building up to where you want them to be. But even when you get into a company, I've got some great episodes coming your way. even in when you have a great champion, you have to guide them nobody sends them to you know change the company school how to spend the company's money school that doesn't happen. It's up to us the lead them through that process, and if we don't know what it is and Yeah Yeah I looked at these sales methodologies and one of steps is asked them what the processes day don't know. What's your process for determining What you're GonNa do this weekend a lot of it is. Reactive people don't think that way people don't think about the little steps that have to take place they think about their job they're really good at their job. They're not good at our job. Our job is guiding them, and that's where winning the complex sale comes in and what we're doing in that course people doing the largest most complex deals in the company's history and not being in the reactive checking in see how it's going relying on the client to figure out how their company buys. You have to know how you company buys how their company is they all by the same way. Everybody's all will this work in Germany will this work in Israel I go other companies there. Yes. Other people there. Yes, it will work. Do you have to modify it slightly author new government things in that place probably. But. He got to identify them and are you gonNA fall into traps probably but the key is to fall into a trap no more than once not every deal and that's what I hear for managers people who've been doing this twenty thirty years you know Brian, we lose no-decision. That Sarah big competition and I'm like Oh really how long has that been pretty much And you haven't figured this out. You know why you don't figure it out because you're not digging in you're not having an emotional attachment to finding out why and how to prevent it winning the complex sale will help you do that. These are skills. If you wanted to learn how to play the guitar, you could go on Youtube and try it yourself and that would be good. What happens if you had a coach what happens have you had a community of Qatar players who were trying to all develop that skill all at once that would. Escalate it right. That's pretty much how we learn. We learn from others we learn from examples we learn from others, mistakes that's a genius sales. Hey if you like the podcast, do me just one favor, I don't need a review or anything just give me a little thumbs up a little comment a little share. When you see my stuff on Lincoln, I'd appreciate that. tell a friend about the show. 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Frankenculture Episode 64- State of Play, Grounded and Spider-man for me but not for thee

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Frankenculture Episode 64- State of Play, Grounded and Spider-man for me but not for thee

"Hello everyone, and welcome to the frank and culture podcast. Video, game podcast you weekly with our news reviews and opinions on the Industry to day I'm your host CPA corny joined as always. By the man moves his camera Levi. So, really quick. Making. This podcast and I just put it in there because it's trending right now is by watermelon sugar I don't know why but it's trending watermelon sugar by. Sugar. pom-pom bob. Heine Hunt He. By hello. This is the new attempted camera angle for. To make. Gorny. Look better. It looks much better. It does a lot better. Leave I, work and people find you. Over on twitter and Instagram, it's Franken boosy and the twitch channel Franken culture. Watermelon sugar is a Harry Style Song Oh. Is it A. Cool. We might get some some New People. This. These three fat bearded guys. Where's my hair styles and even type it in I just hit the hash tag and it was like the top one that optical. Cool. That other voice, the man to my. Left. Stackhouse. Levi impression stackhouse. What's happening? Nothing, much much doing the same thing they leave out was doing making tweet for the podcast. Ban Fat please band fat, man. Snowball where can people find you? You can find me on this lovely twit stream twitch dot TV slash lumberjack stacks. And on Instagram and twitter rejects acts over there and say what a? Couldn't you bury? Their does visas very, very serious. ACED. He is on a mission I'm trying to. Pump out the we've real. I'd like to point out for a second thing about Steve is that his forehead is literally one third of his face. And your stomach is three fourths your body. Built like a snowman. Everybody we want. Hurtful. Hurtful It looks like you eight dad. It looks like you eight South Rogan. Allergies. Making. This is what is it certain show? Do you see what you make me do. What have you been playing? I've played about. Two and a half hours of destiny, and that's all week and played much. Well, I, try to get you to come play grounded in you denied. I'm actually probably after this going to buy that. Are In whatever the fuck you said. You Jerk. It's not it's on game pass. Okay, I'll get it on. Did you get game Pez or are you just bullshitting? The dollar one I. got it. Yeah so just Pass. I haven't gone through all the Games on there yet shit dude, there's a Shatin. Also, hang on I need to add something into our notes. No Christ. What's going on in destiny anything exciting. No I think next week is the. The big moments are. Called but like The big event that you can go and get a new title ship for your character and stuff like that. Real men of genius is just. Started saying something. What number. called. It's an event. Visit Event going on because you don't educate Novon Disney. All you. You fucking talk about it so much but you never. Nothing ever listen you guys come from such a negative point of view I. Don't know how to tell what are you talking about? What are you talking made a very sad post in the middle of the week that no one plays destiny with them anymore and I felt bad. and. A sad batman replying did was the best tweet Levi's ever made for me was like, fuck. Yeah. He was like Moose. Heaven people to play. Disney with. Loan? No. Big Ass Group of people that played all you do is run through the levels. No not doing that Steph like trying to do the raids and things like where you actually got to kill things not the stuff. I've heard you won't play with the Fatman anymore. I'm crap. Well. Yeah. That's true. He does play minecraft. He plays all these other games but he says grounded shit. So I don't know what to think about that anywhere first off I will admit grounded as they broken game. But if you take it in as a preview game, it's mindlessly enjoyable. It's in the realm of if you can enjoy minecraft, you can enjoy. Going to say, that's just like minecraft. Like it's a mindless game. It's not mindless. There's a lot to do grounded Levi. You've been playing. You know what? Actually I didn't add. Thanks for reminding me Stackhouse. In Art. How did they get deleted from last week? This list is this. Wasn't grounded what's on there? And I took Brown it out because I haven't played ground. Knowing, played with your brother. Was that this week I think Monday. Holy Shit Dude. Day It is anymore. The near I did play grounded yeah. Because I was trying to get steakhouse to fucking play we could add crew four running around. And Play that I played a little bit of Arc. And then. A lot of call of duty and a little pudgy. Duty, pretty hard. Yeah. I can tell you refuse to play grounded with me. First off I said screen that. I was already playing video games in your life grounded and I'm like what the fuck is random Friday morning no warning. No whatever. No Hey we play grounded with me the text. I texted you Thursday night and that's when you were playing college judy like a bitch and then I texted you Friday morning and you just like cool. Yeah you're very mean. Takes one to know what's going on. Arc. Nothing. I logged out because I saw Alpha car near the base and I don't want none of it. Leaving by which stones did inform me it killed everything. And then stone her way in with is army of dinosaurs, killed it for us. Why isn't stunner playing grounded? I don't know because he's obsessed with arc again. He sent me a picture of like ten birds he was breeding wants this morning while. He could he could be the master of grounded. I. If we let him play grounded. He'd have the game finished before you were able to log in one night. I was watching. Ryan who used to work at Margarita villas play grounded with his whole crew and they have like a huge fucking tower like they built this humongous. Our they were like they have a level three hammer. Like they're fucking shit up over there. It's crazy. I popped into a couple streamers playing grounded in like. The people that grinded out with the whole team. Have these like elaborate for? Whatever you WANNA, call them and. Armor stands and. Shit like that. I. Wonder if that's like to have a team that run with you. You'll never know. I guess. I, fucking. Won't because the two biggest homeys I have refused to play what's going on in anything exciting. I. Gino is the renewed maps and hawks. They just remodeled it and there's a giant truck that drives around. But season I'm a call of duty started yesterday yesterday or Friday Friday I think what's going on in college duty? Can go inside the stadium now. I don't know what that means. and. There's a train goes around the map choo. Choo. Choo Yep. You might you might have just talked to plan called. Play, I want some of that Chu X and. Chug Chug. Running Gun Bullshit? I. Still no interest playing any colleges. Dude. There's no one. For you guys. I'm having fun. I don't care about what's. Obviously. What's the new one? It's call of duty. Black. OPS Cold War. That what was leaked? Off during. Half. Torito's. Doritos has never lied to me before. We start now. I myself. I've been playing grounded still I took down a lady bug last night. I. have put a treat a gas mask. So we can. Go into. There's a whole part with pesticides. It's great what a great game I also played the Demo of Skate Bird where you play a parakeet skateboarding. Pretty. Cool. This is also on game pass the demo. was made by the same people that made the dog nut game. No this game is far better than. Gone nuts or wherever the hell it's called. I just remember Levi being upset about how bad that game that game was very bad. If somebody comes to me and is like, Hey, can you list your top ten worst games ever getting one through seven? I. Did get a press release for New Leisure Leisure Suit Larry Game. That's GONNA come out. So I'll have review copies for YouTube guys. Play that again. I also played frog fractions, which recently was added to steam to browser-based game. it sounds like a math game but I love how interested you guys are It's browser-based frog game or you're just catching flies upgrades. There's dragons. It's actually very cool. They just released some DLC. It called the hat DLC on steam, which is basically a whole other game. I was playing on a laptop without a mouse so It wasn't overly like the gameplay. Kinda, sucks. It's definitely a mouse and keyboard game and then I jumped back in again. To no man's sky actually saw that I feel like I'm more upset that you didn't ask me to play no man's sky with you. I stopped asking to play Games after Friday. You. So here's the the general routine is he worked Fridays I wasn't expecting you to WANNA play video. Hey Hey, leave off tomorrow. Would you like to place no games? No I would've told owner and my brother-in-law to go fuck themselves I would have play video games with my family and let's Let's play. No Man's sky. What are you playing on? I, will play. Hopefully it's not playstation because my playstation is now upstairs and I can't play fall guys. I WANNA play that fog is has gotten. A lot of. They've got review bombed in a bunch because the servers that been wonky because it is such a new game from an indie developer. Say their their servers gotta be super overwhelmed. Oh Yeah I mean. It's Like the clips I saw like bomb was playing it and they just kept getting kicked. I think they finally got one game to work with all four people were actually able to play but. But no man's Guy I didn't dig that deep into. Leave I I will gladly play no man's sky with you I will start a New Game. And Start. A new. while. So in preparation because all of them needed updates. Give me a heads up. Because I re downloaded. And updated did too far cry. 'cause I WANNA FINISH THEM You have been in quarantine. For months, you haven't finished a single game. I've been playing games. In far cry. Yet because I feel like Pudgy cod in. The what we've been. Section. So you've been playing three games finishing zero. But they're all re downloaded and updated. Play. You're a digital video game order. I wouldn't even say just digital it's just a video game mortar did well, it's worse because I have the two terabyte extras have three terabytes on my xbox. A. Saginaw. Mode. Game that I have done that I haven't finished unless I just didn't like the game. See My problem is I started playing these games and then a game I want to play more comes out and I'm like hello back burner. And then another game that I wanNA. Play even more comes out. Did you ever finish? Any scenario of frost. PUNK. Yeah I WANNA say God I played like one super. Like evil tyrant like made all the kids go to work and was dropping like awesome. Go to school during a pandemic, right? Yeah, and then I played one where I tried to keep up. By making cemeteries instead of just throwing the bodies into a bit and stuff like that. but I saw that they added a shit deal see. There's like a, there's there's not even snow anymore some of them, and then they just added where you can find a a military base in some sort so. But I'm going to call a game frost bunk and not have snow. Right. Levi. You need some nerdy stuff in the background. You don't like my towel and my belt and my clothes. PAINT CANS WOULD MAKE into. It's funny because like my rooms clean except for the empty cans. Other day. Oh, there's no Anson here. In the millions of ants, we got new releases you and. No No. No, you're not. Pop Up Dungeon. August twelfth. Total War Saga Troy August thirteenth. Kill with fire. August thirteenth. Eastern exorcist. On the PC also August fourteenth. Bill doing. UFC Four. August fourteenth. Yeah Club Ladder Stackhouse. skiing. Area. Thank you Microsoft flight simulator August eighteenth. I heard a lot of good things about that. Actually heard a lot of other than. The, game really like ten discs or whatever. Full Yeah Yeah Yeah. I I can't for them battle royal version of Microsoft flight simulator. Google maps doesn't it so you can literally fly air. Streets. I'M GONNA take a helicopter please Levi. Levi please. It's Cindy's. Yes. What are you drinking there? Should get a ban blackberry Vanilla Cherry. Power Punch. That's right. My cameras up here and. We Got Grief Elm on the August twentieth. Pastelle Blind Karma August twentieth as well in remnant from the ashes deal and complete addition coming out on August twentieth that's for PC playstation for an xbox one. Let's get into the news. Why doesn't hang on why? That's why if not letting him enjoy delicious sweet beverages. She's mean. while. Levi News. To to to to. Leave one job. was feeling bad for Fatman, we've we haven't task him with an article and weeks. He only has one thing to do. That's make the. The news noise. And he gets distracted. So playstation state of play was this past week did you guys happen to get is on that? Occasion really mean. That I. Love You. So I'm not going to say. Yeah there's a million other regional have a heart attack than bang. Me To me to me. You don't see my my man boobs. He was adjusting himself before we went live. Right. So playstation state of play started off with crash bandicoot four, the gone to more of the. Game play. You're actually middled played different characters including dig odile. Which? I have no idea. So last crush band I played was crash into three haven't played it in a very long time. Then we got some a hitman trilogy they're going to have playstation VR support. That's kind of exciting. Hitman. Hitman Games are pretty cool. You can do a lot in those games. And to be able to do it in. VR, seems pretty crazy. I take it back. I did see a game from this and it was the vader having the. fucking doe does. What was the exact name of that it like later mater immortal? Yeah. Tons of lightsaber play in that. I'm his in anniversary edition with completely redrawn Redone Art. Braid. Play, Braid. I heard of it. I haven't played it. You never really brave you buy those xbox sixty. I I've heard of it, and honestly I wouldn't be surprised if I downloaded it and never played it. You can time travel, right It's not so much time like the more you move forward on a level like the the level changes and If you go backwards. Pretty Amazing game and the endings pretty nuts to. Spill lucky to. Coming out September fifteenth. Why even going to have you guys played spunky. I don't remember hearing about spunky. Huge game people. People love spunky really generated. Dungeons. Looking for treasure. This adds more characters to your rescuing people. Some control DLC coming out we had the vader immortal that we spoke about before. Hood outlaws and legends. We got a trailer for didn't look very interesting to me seemed kind of way to open a boring. The pedestrian. Which? Obviously looks kind of like an Indie game. Your running from sign to sign is different logos and. Like animation cells seems pretty cool we got bugs. gameplay trailer bitch. Bitch Levi. It looks awesome. Decided Oh. My God, I don't think that game looks good at all. Levi. I'll buy you a place Asian five. If you beep if you promise to stream all of bugs next and bead platinum bugs, nags, you can't afford. It gives you know what I you don't know what I'm doing. I was working when I got my stimulus, bitch. If you want me to play bugs, eggs with you that band I don't think it's even multi-player. I just want you to hurt. Platinum it for a I have no problem. No Fat. If I buy you a place aged five, you have to drink a case of bang. Watch down your bowl of mashed potatoes. Band only comes in like a twelve pack. So here's only twelve. Off of Amazon and I was like. We got. A trailer, the path list, the Pavlos looks like a horrible Zelda Rybakov. I. Yeah I. Wasn't about it. Auto chess trailer. Coming out. which is from Doda Tem, which is whatever God far they did a godfather they did a whole walk through which. which is what ever do not give a fuck about God fall. God fall feels like the rise of. This generation remember rise. Levi. I do remember that game actually. You. Know what? Though I didn't hate that game. But whatever which one was rise. It was the like playstation for. Comes with the playstation for game. Play that game. Now that was a rise was a three, sixty game or Whatever have Came with one of them. Yeah. You're thinking. You're thinking. Oh why is that name going to escape me now the game for playstation Oh my God. Ah. Other game. Stop Expo he made me stand in line with them. We can play back. To be that line was that long. and. We also got a trailer for Yon must die. So, the real news from this comes from. After the show where? All the developers of quit. Publicly. They said there was rapid abuse. Sexual harassment they weren't paid for their work. And they how they did this was they dropped the original trailer from the game what? I don't like what's going on in the chat. While the other trailer for state of play. Aired. May. During in the upload, they put people who have worked on every shot of this or no longer with the company holding Ip. Rights. Some were not even paid for their work. This trailer has pending conflict of Ip the real Ip for the game was stolen from the Creator's via foul play. Final reaction of the publisher to the information remains to be seen. So we're getting a another case of developers taking advantage of their employees and just shifting all over them. Basically, all eight of the employees at Limestone Limestone Games including the founder all resigned to endless French harassment, abuse, corruption, and manipulation. Also there was a lot of attempts to segregate. So, event truly. Focus. came out with a statement against this focus home interact interactive. You can see them at focus. On twitter focus home interactive has always praised and supported all our partner studios and the developers who compose a creative teams. We pride ourselves on treating our own employees and third party developers fairly respectively in this will not change. Focus home interactive was informed of serious allegations raised by some of the developers limestone who have worked in the creation of the video game. Aon must die these grievances were directed at. Their direct employer as a publisher of this video game focus is carefully looking into these allegations of will draw the necessary conclusions if they are proved to be well founded and then take all the appropriate measures. No further comment will be shared until we have a clear and complex view So basically, they're going to investigate themselves. Probably find that they did nothing wrong and we'll continue in the circle of eight seems pretty interesting for a game that looks so so so subpar. That's not even the only studio that came out saying that this week. Couple of days ago. Blizzard came up saying that they're getting. Worked under the. Sport to the court. I believe. Lizard always, like has been saying that for a while. True I. Just know a lot of employees did have a this week coming out saying that they were. Having the same kind of issues is this for this post here I feel I think I read every studios going through name one studio that has an at a Hey, you're fucking us. That such a small that a small studio like this. would be a rare. Because I don't think just keep saying. These guys I don't think are a giant game. Studio. That made this. CD Project I can. See New Product. I thought CD project redhead something about. Pay. Gap She was. Think so. Good for them. I wish rare would make another Viva Pinata. No again, dead. Like. It'll come out when destiny three comes out. We'll get a destiny three soon because fucking they want money stackhouse. They're not though that's the thing they are you. Two more years shit for destiny to I said that about destiny one and then they're like, Hey, here's destiny to what they'll do is they'll just released destiny three in that second year of content will be usable in destiny as well as destiny to. I. Don't think so I think so. I think. So you'RE GONNA YOU'RE GONNA be able to link character from destiny to to destiny three. With this by the way, I, don't get me wrong. I'd be totally is I'm just saying I don't think it's an apple. Fuck destiny three. Fuck destiny. In Fuck you. Don't. Ever, talk about vive opinion like that again. Be the opinion. Hold the JOCKSTRAP. Of Desk into. What? was waiting for someone. Stack. Deal. We. TC Fan. Dome. The dome. Coming August Twenty Second Rock Steady Studios Announced via twitter that suicide squad game. Is going to make an appearance. Pretty. Cool. Is it GONNA so I'm assuming it's going to be. Hopefully Batman esque those Arkham games were great. Those Arkan. Games are fucking oh Did you play those. I play the first one. Stack there's like seven more dude. I never played this cinematic ones but. The standalone games were great. What's cinematic ones we talking about? There's didn't a I. Guess It wasn't rock steady that made them tell tale a tale. Oh. Those Games are pretty. Cool. The poster has superman with a crosshairs over his head that spell out suicide squad. Yeah, I'm super excited about this the suicide squad whether. It be the movie version cinematic version or the Congress version plenty of amazing characters to play with. H. B. O. Max Under Their D. C. headline actually has some solid suicide squad cartoon movies up. Right now. What do you think of that? Hbo Max Levi. Awesome because I don't have to pay for it because one of my roommates got it care. Enough. Is there a lot of? Choices on HBO. Max. But you have there's a ton. There's even anime studio Ghibli and whatever it's called his on there and. Movies you should watch. On tell me what to do. Seconds what's up by your microphone boom? That was like one key car. Anything. Steal from work. Now, this is from children's Miracle Network hospitals saw children. Hey what's that boom mic holder? What's that? Older. Yeah A little bit. Let me see the base of that. It's a road. It's like. Clamped onto the death. You have like a two hundred dollar boom Mike. One hundred dollars. He's Stuck around with my streaming stuff dude I, put in the effort. Fancy audio technically. I can his. Fancy light up PC, microphone, is at. A five hundred dollars Shroud. You have a a seven grand streaming set up at a five dollar cat tree. fucking. One five parents kitchen tangible. Kitchen table in the I don't like the Road Baden Mike I don't like read Pa Mike that. What's the road pod. It's a road, Mike it's a little like it's for podcasting. Goes in your but. Then you pay more for your but. Stackhouse supposedly, you have a trailer for something. We have a trailer Qaeda. You put it in there either set up again. I don't even have a story for this out. So it's all on you bud. When it's all on me well, daily expect announced the. Game Pass going on android though now that's pretty. Dope. android. Trailer is GonNa be the cool like extension. You can see that chick using on her phone. Yeah like to hold it basically, it's just gain pass on your phone now, which is pretty fucking dote. The. Yes Didn't. They already do that on windows phones like years ago. Do not recall have no idea. I could've swore that if you had a windows phone. But I think that was the issue. Nobody has a windows phone. Don't make them anymore do they. Really Oh I'm sure they do your cricket mobile. Right. Yeah, exactly. It is pretty exciting. A game pass wherever you WANNA go. The idea of being able to play anywhere it's still really cool. Are. You say that are you bashed on stadia eighty dollars a giant failure obviously not because it's still going. They've destiny to. Run Shit on it, and Pudgy, and Pudgy. And probably arc. Garbage. Park is probably part of that. Don't make them anymore. I. Don't think they. COULDA sworn. iphone. And I'm ninety nine, point nine percent sure I thought I saw a Microsoft on Microsoft, as I was like. Literally, what I said. I was like they still make those. Like maybe they like number, you can still purchase them. Maybe. I don't know. I'm excited to see how that goes. It looks cool. I trust phone Internet. To give it a try sometime. Phone internationals. Stadia was three or Google Browser. Stackhouse. You'RE A, joke. You're a joke you just hate. Stadia. Eightieth dumb. Of Die on this hill. Like. I don't know I don't like using my phone. For Games I. Don't play very many games on. I do I. But like a cool idea it's a really cool idea. But like I can picture myself playing a little bit and be like okay. Never doing it again. All like I. Guess. Maybe if you're into like games like they have minecraft squabble. You can play far cry on your phone. We can play minecraft dungeons on our phone. Line grounded on your phone. Oh that's neat. I need to get an android phone. You won't you won't bail on the right. Now I'm to deepen. Our Day too much into that. What is it called? I add on what can pull it out of your Ashtec House. What to call another word yeah. Previous system FEM donate. What'd you say Levi? Well. Because he's saying that they still have an android phone but are making windows phones. I'd have to double check because this was literally maybe two weeks ago. I was just entertaining the idea of up because I'm sure I have a free upgrade and I literally looked at it because there was even a. Blackberry and I was like what married? Very still have. They just came back out. Yeah right because it's has like a keyboard or some shit doesn't it? I think so yeah yeah it has a keyboard ended touchscreen. But yeah. No I. I if I got another phone, it'd be just a newer apple anthem. I have an eight plus I think me too. I remember when leave I got his phone, the red phone, he was super upset that he had found. She's talking about I paid I. Don't say is that's That's why even the clear case so you can see them read. You. Yeah was, the did the watch with that. Is that what happened because I remember you had the one they gave me. Yeah. Because you didn't really want to watch has gave. No? Well. So I went in there and I just wanted my wanted them to replace my battery. and. They're like we don't do that and I'm like, fuck you don't like just give me a new battery. They're like you have to upgrade your phone and I was like fuck that I was like and then I threw out the I'm leaving and they're like Whoa Whoa Whoa. WHOA. Care and. General. Manager. I just told him. I was going to like because I've been with verizon since two thousand. Ten dollars like it was like you know what I'm going to out or to at and T. and they're like, so they're like look. If you upgrade your phone. We'll give you a watch and I was like Oh. Yeah. So. I mean I guess I guess. That's fine. Leave high strong arming. Poor. We. We own our phones our right now. So it's like. I'm thinking we might go with horizon or some shit because sprint sucks. Even joined with T. mobile they they're still garbage. I've. What you say I've never had any issues with sprint you have sprint. I've had sprint since I was in high school. explained. A lot about you. had. Verizon since I was in high school. Also at eight PM t before. Too Much I had verizon and sprint only because we got discounts through each one. Doctor. Disrespect. Guys. came. Back. On Youtube. He was getting about four or five sobs every thirty seconds. And he wasn't fucking streaming. Video. Game he's back. showed up on new ewing tube. That's not nice stack. He was making donations in the amount of five hundred and one hundred dollars over and over again utterly ridiculous that this guy who's probably worth a million dollars. Was Getting these fucking donation amounts? Hit Four, hundred thousand concurrent views and peaked at five, hundred, thousand viewers. Youtube Youtube Gaming Baby Remember I feel like though for a man like him, that likes to curse and this and that a lot he's on a platform. That's. We'll be quicker to D- monetize them. I don't think just. Got A, APP for Iowa. Youtube gaming have its own an iphone. Yeah. I feel I feel like Youtube gaming is going to be more lax than. Twitch was. Especially in terms of swearing and shit. Only because of that algorithm like at Algorithm I think watches, those videos watches videos and then deans them. For ads or not you know what I mean it's not like. About just go into every twitch chat enter every stream chattan listen for. Curse words, I don't think. Yeah well we'll see. Don't get me wrong. Stackhouse apparently hates Dr. Disrespect Okay Levi if doctors disrespect gets flagged for swearing. Within, the first month. You have to play bugs. I'll just play so you shut up. Yeah. Doug Dr Disrespect is back. We still have no idea of why he was. Even thrown off which still? No idea. And do we really care stack does not. Stuck out sibling I just think it's interesting that the article that I read on it, which is different than the Geek. slager. You. That even the twitch affiliate program people and the Partnership Program people don't know why he got band. It's literally just cap to the. Of Twitch. It's up to the upper. Dear people of twitch. Like. So even his. Doctor disrespects personal handlers through Amazon's. Don't even know why he got banned according to. twitches. fucked up. So they're keeping Super hush-hush why he got banned It hasn't been leaked yet. So. I Bet I bet we'll never find out. animal crossing has sold over twenty, two, million copies. At Twenty, two point, four, million copies since launch, which was only four months ago. I'm so at that five, million copies a month at. it has sold more than. A Super Smash Bros alternate legends of Zelda Pokemon Sword, and shield. but has not. Oversold, Mario, Kart eight deluxe, which is at twenty six point seven four teams also been out since thousand seventeen. So prefiguring other two months, it will outsell Mario Kart. Eight Pretty pretty crazy. The game is still going strong Levi no matter how much you hate it. There's fireworks backup Terry. There's all sorts of funds. What? Terry. And put. That clip. Is fucking amazing. No matter what. We're talking about. How do you? Stack doesn't know the backup Terry. Terry. Our. Time. Behind the car cat that hiccups farts at the same time to. Barney teeth brushing. To. Chat For everyone to. Enjoy. That game is fucking on so I know it. I didn't know the call. We read I started reading an article that when you don't play your animal crossing I'm GonNa come back to my island. How messy it would yeah. It'd be overtaken by weeds and stuff weeds and roaches bugs. People moved away. They don't like your neighborhood anymore. Well, that's trying to his one or whatever you ever get rid of that more. All just don't talk to him just kind of leave them alone. Fuck that cow. Just ostracized. How she gone. In the last bit of News, we have here that kind of made some big waves spiderman is going to be a playstation exclusive a on the vendors game. So. We're really talked too much about this game. Anyone excited for this game. I. A lot of people that got access to like a Beta said that it's not very good. We'll actually have access to that Beta later this month xbox Levi. Available on playstation right now. And about a week or two, it'll be available on xbox. So we'll get some hands on. From what I've been hearing it's very it's actually like one of Stackhouse's favorite games. Elite based. Shooter. Game. So. It's like destiny to where you get different loot in run through the same exact instances over and over again. Sometimes running past all the enemies that you can. Even for sex stop no selling it. Not even a fucking smile. You Yourself. Now. Just. Announced I was like it doesn't look that great to me like it doesn't look. Fun. It's not marvel ultimate alliance to. Like those are the Marble Games that those games are lying. Awesome. Anything after those. has never been cool to me when it comes to those games like. Marvel Gate. But are we going to play this? Do you want to I mean it's available on PC. If you want to fucking beard scratch I swear to. God. Leave I it just it sounds like you're getting straughn going skin. Even with your moisturizer. bearded. Yeah. So everyone has been up in arms about Spiderman being Sony exclusive in they released a statement. Actually it was in an interview. And let's see if we can follow this. So the beauty of Spiderman and what Spiderman represents is a character. and. As a world is again, it comes back to the relationship with playstation and marvel we happen to be. Once, you can execute and deliver when it comes to hundred choices of where and what Spiderman can be. That's a relationship question that playstation absolutely has the rights to that. Is You guys know with Sony's ownership there and marvel with Sony saying, Hey, this is something we can do. This is something we could do on this platform what? Just say, Fuck Sony has the right to Spiderman movies. In some of his video game, Shit. So they didn't want him on. Microsoft. What. Like what the fuck is statement it goes on and so what we do is creators to say this is an opportunity where we can make something unique and fun. Awesome that we all you just talked about black widow and to be able to have that experience. So we love the idea of being able to bring this character to the playstation players, but I really do think people will look at this and say yeah okay, we get that we can understand the business behind that. But in general, we're making a game for everybody. Nobody understands the business behind that. Are. Making it game for everybody but you can't play either man unless you have a play with a fuck. Fuck was talking who is this guy? He is studio heads Scott Amos. Amos A. needs learn how to do an interview. It was like a round table discussion. Okay, okay okay but still that that first that first paragraph ending that I. Oh it's it's ridiculous. Quoted to. That's like if you were talking about something like I can definitely hear somebody saying that stuff. Yes. But context, it's like impossible to follow. But No No. One's in it. I didn't understand that business move. It's going to be like just make something was more like an asshole. Like. The only thing that I it's one character but at the same time like. Making a temporary exclusive is one thing but a permanent exclusive is fucked up. Kind of A. especially, if it's across both platforms, you know I can understand a gaming console exclusive. Yeah. But I'm a I'm I understand? Like on college duty making certain maps. xbox exclusive for the first month is one thing but you know. The only other game that I can think of off the top of my head had character exclusive. Caliber like. But that was each console had their specific like Character to it this is. Just keep this character like he gets like the crucial character character general be like. They're not like, Hey, we're making sucking Doctor strange or yeah ant man. Don't get me wrong but yeah, they're not like, Hey, we're gonNA take someone that's not as big of a deal. Just. One of everyone's favourite out and you guys can't have on his popcorn. Fuck about spider not being in it. Vitamin. But again, going back to the. Soil caliber example who do you think like if xbox is going to have an exclusive? WHO WOULD IT BE? They got spun. Spun is not a moral character. No? No. No. I'm just saying that's who they had. No INTENDO head Yoda. Yes. No. Yeah because Sony had metal. Gear Dude. Famous metal gear, dude I don't know. If metal gear. Get. Psycho Mantis. Solid snake liquid snake. The psycho mantis level is probably one of the best levels. It's the best boss battle. Ever do that like fuck with your saves you have to plug into the second controller to beat him. I see you've played resident evil. Yeah. Great. No I think it's I. Think it's done. I don't give a fuck and now I think there's You can't let this fucking bother you. If. He's going to be if he's going to be a council of you have to look at it like this. Then obviously, it makes no difference to the fucking story. Anyway. Like Dane it's probably going to be. He'll probably disappear from cut scenes shit like Spiderman won't be fucking like it's it's dumb. Until you found, find out, playstation got extra missions and stuff like that. They did. They know they have a lot of exclusive shit. Yes Oh well. So you you're GONNA have Oxford. Say so you guys just GonNa have. Access to the neuter version of this game. So you're telling me. I'll. Try. When the Beta comes out next month, I'll give it a check. See what's up. Trying to find it. Yeah. It's Different fits or some shit like. It's I I don't think the game's GonNa. Do like amazingly well, anyway. Oh I don't think that the stuff that playstation. Will. Matter. In the long run. Yeah? No, I. Think the game doesn't do great. I I don't get that vibe from it i. don't see the fanfare behind it. I think if it was going to be that big of a game, they would have waited until. The next. Marvel release. No they would've waited until. The next GEN systems. But they're not. So it's not. And you guys have anything else for news. No. Levi, where can people find you? My my twitter and my instagram are Franken boosy and then on the wonderful twitch channel for US Franken culture. You can watch him stream call of duty and not grounded because refuses to play. Man Set. It looks like that fish. You know the fish I'm talking about the Blob fish or whatever the fuck it is. But. He's pulling it up. There is. Title. World's ugliest Anna. Cows Working People find you. Lumberjacks tax on all platforms. With an S. lumberjack staff. Snake. How does it swim? Where's the footage of this thing swimming? Look at that bucket GLOB of whatever coming out of his mouth right there. What is this thing? It's a fish bro what's the problem? Nah. That's mean. You're being you're being hurtful. As always please follow us on all social media platforms twitter instagram facebook. At franken culture makes you make sure again to follow Levi on our twitch. At Frank. Culture. Lumberjacks actions in himself in the face with his headphones. Hopefully, I'll get the two of these guys and grounded at the same time this week, and we'll stream that left tons of fun. Rate is five SARS follow our. Youtube Channel. You. We need to get up to a hundred subscribers. So we can title our channel correctly. So please subscribe subscribe subscribe. Four lead by four SEC house has been the. Culture podcast back next week. You. Say IT, stack?

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Adults Only Cabaret, Circus Re-imagined; Fringe Award Winners - Sn1, Ep 7

Adelaide Fringe Podcast

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Adults Only Cabaret, Circus Re-imagined; Fringe Award Winners - Sn1, Ep 7

"Atalay themes. The potty that defines a city. Welcome to Adelaide fringe podcast where we take you behind the curtain of the largest arts vista in the southern hemisphere to help you navigate your best friend experience fringe brings together. A huge range of towns at artists to highlight what's Hoti tweak at late from the United States weekly woodwinds and today's so we sit down with four of this week sensational. Winning axe for more great shows you can access a complete list of our award winners by the Lincoln show nights to book, your friends tickets head to the Adelaide fringe website at live fringe concerts recorded on the traditional lands of the Ghana people with big thanks to Adelaide fringe principal partner. Bank say. The wake full winners of the bankers Cy bist circus and physical theatre award was shared by you and on and casting off. And here's Deborah Sharon and Spencer to talk about their award winning showers high wit costing off and we are on in the Yukio at gluttony from six PM every night until Sunday the seventeenth fantastic. Well, congratulations. You are winner. These wig for the bist sick act. How does that feel where delighted it's great? Yes. Fabulous full news, and you are a multi generational act. Is that right? Have we got three generations here? Yes. We have. But we're not related, but we kind of come from three different life stage is so to speak so get with thirty forty two and all my sixty fantastic. So tell us about that in the description of you'll shar it's United generations of gutsy women talking and tumbling and flying tell. Us a little bit about why you think that multigenerational aspect is a really important element of your show. I think that in sick as we often think of circus as being a youthful foam, and it certainly is dominated by the younger person. But we wanted to sort of take Circassian to a new realm where where reaching different audiences by the fact that we are different ages. And we also really wanted to sort of talk about how different ages can talk to each other and do talk to each other. And we can share knowledge across the generations. We actually made the show initially for the sod salt. Experimental circus festival in Melbourne. And then we decided to go straight to Edinburgh with the show while we were there, we won the title Fisher award for circus. But I we actually felt most allotted by the conversation that was around the show because it was really understanding what we were doing with the show. Oh, fantastic. Will could you expand? A little bit about that. Then how are you extending the art form women will making the show initially when we were looking at how to experiment with the foam of circus. We decided to remove all soundtrack or music from the show, and we've created a soundscape without voices at acoustically across the whole show. So rather than a show that's driven by the music. It's driven by out on voices and say, I'm will it was also women making it was very much the time of the maitre movement and women's voices were were something would resonating it was hearing women speak about their experiences. And so that was that was kind of coming into our conversation when making and the third thing that was also coming into our conversation was the fact that we talked too much and pulled out a quote from Jack hawk toe, which is whatever they crucify you. For intensify. It so we decided to just intensify talking while we were working on the show. So it was a kind of a coming together all of these different elements. Well, I can certainly relate. I love talking on storytelling and conversation. But I also really love that fact that you have gone. Well, it's it's circuits because I think circus in itself is often considered very entertaining. But probably lot hotted, but you've gone. Okay. Well, there's the me too movement, which is definitely not lot hearted. And you've incorporated those sort of elements in conversations into your act. And so, you know, in how does that synergy work the thing that I find engaging about it is that what it does is it connects the voice as another pot of bodies. So when you're watching us do the acrobat IX and moving around on the stage, out breath and our voices. Become just another layer of physical movement, essentially often people have said they haven't even noticed that. There isn't any soundtrack actually, and what has your experience pain here at Adelaide fringe how. Do you know you being received by audiences and what's the experience Bain we've received several standing ovations at the end of the show which have been quite spontaneous. And just gorgeous. We certainly have some people who are little bit perplexed that this is not what they were expecting because they've come to say a circus show and would not expecting something that maybe asks you to think little bit as well as the entertainment, we want them to feel like they're part of the conversation. And that they're part of the world the world with us, and there's no separation, and so what has your experience of fringe Bain and lying coming into Adelaide. We've really enjoyed being in an amongst the fringe we really enjoy going and seeing new work and seeing what else is around. And it's a lot to be in the gluttony garden at such a beautiful place to be and there's so many shows on and also there's an incredible camaraderie around sharing knowledge sharing contexts. Just kind of feel that people are very very generous. And that's one of the great reasons to be at the fringes just to really enjoy that generosity and to give back as much as you can. And where to next for you guys, you know, we're just kind of going to Cape bearing away and hype that we will get to do some touring not just internationally, but nationally as well, we'd love to sort of get the show touring around a strategy. We just think at some it's got a lot to offer audiences not just audiences love circus, but audiences that love theater as well. And so, yeah, we'd love to we'd love love it to have a big life. Well, I hope to say that that big live and awards at Edinburgh. Now at laid fringe, you know there you're obviously got a winning formula. So congratulations on thank you so much the week. Fall winners of the bankers say bisque cabaret award was shared by singing in the pain, a disability and chronic illness. Cabaret Lucy grants Bree drama, and just desserts. Adult only tasting and he is Michelle to talk about her award winning shy. Hi there. Thank you so much having me my shy. Just as it is a desert cooking cabaret that I guess explores a bit of female empowerment body image pressures of society, and we kind of delete that three music and Zet and that has just finished and we did five shows is that debut season and they oh soda out. And we had a great run, and I've also been doing Shaikh code comfort food cabaret for threes now, and that's a cooking, and that's much more family friendly a lot more wholesome, and that has also finished we did five shades of that see that's two to Edinburgh in Copenhagen already. And that's been really cool. But if you do want to catch me, and my band and the cooking have ri- can come to comfort food, Cabrera Tyson Australia on the thirteenth, the bike pro and. Stick wo-. Congratulations. So just desert is one of our weekly award winners for bisque Habra. Yeah. That's awesome. As you said, this was an adults only Shari, we desert and music. Can you explain the concept for us? Yes show. So because of comfy Cabrera of always lied to a delivering the cooking cabaret thing. I like that as part of my brand now to be able to do that. Because I am a cook. And a caterer, and I'm also a singer. So I like to kind of mold them together. So I started thinking about just as it so in Edinburgh, and I thought oh side compound feed cabarets, Ray, Saif, it's very wholesome very family friendly, and I thought it wouldn't be good to kind of explore a little bit more six you -ality get a little bit more sensual beat nausea and do something with desert just for me desert and adults only just go really well together is he can be a little bit naughty with desert and think of whipped cream and chocolate and bringing all of that kind of buddy pipe style. Oh, back chilly and things like that. Yeah. Look for major. It's all about pleasure. So I guess it. Connect. Absolutely. How do you? Then bring these elements together and create a show from that. You know, you've got you've got the food music, and you wanted to have more of a conversation. How did this shape that into this show? I think I work in vignettes of different things. So let's say, you know, body image and social pressures to be thin and beautiful and have the latest fashion things like that. And then there's also the pressures of getting married and having kids and being in relationships, and we all same really obsessed with that. And then I wanted to challenge what does it is debatable? So we started off fairly Saif. We like a buck, lavar. But I wanted a lion dessert because I wanted to talk about, you know, teen to an how everybody is just like swat left swiped right and trying to like pick the future destiny, which gives you like a two second impression. And I know any of the one that I've dated in the past. If I had two seconds to decide if I was going to be with the Mona. I probably wouldn't have been with them because it's the personality and and their lies that I've gotten to ni- that I that has actually really attracted me to them. And so we've kind of matched the desert to the theme. So we kinda talk about personality and getting to know people we talk about, you know, six and being confident and body image and trying to shut out that negative self talk. And then we kind of add a little bit of spice to a brownie or something like that and easily a lot of fun unites on that you really love do. Yeah. Yeah. It is. I loved doing just as good today saying you as well because we've been doing comfort food Cabrera for three now, I think, so it's pain soy fun. I've loved this as best fringe over. I would say offense. So then tell us a bit about the music, element toys. So we've talked a lot about the food. Yeah. What about the musical side of of Yorkshire? Yes. Sure. Sorry. The musical side was I guessed created by myself. And I've got a musical director called Curie Anderson who he's an incredible percussionist he in Adelaide, but she chose around the world ustralia. She mice recently played with pussy riot the other night. So she's really cool. And I think like because we have similar issues in the industry, and we often talk about the same things, and we really agree on on that on that path for the show coming out with the music was really easy. I wanted to make it a lot popular. So the music is much more modern. It's got so many different pop songs, and there's lots and lots of mashups. So we kind of try to I guess kind of create a bit of a message through music, but we've used different song. So good example would be wild world by cat Stevens. When we regionally listening to the song little. May by little mix. And I was like God these songs sound sorry much. It's a real body image anthem. And I was thinking God is sound the songs and soy much like another song. And we just couldn't figure it out. And it was like, I bet you it's wild world cat Stevens. Listen to it. And then you can actually join them together. They're exactly the same called progression. So we actually like mashed them up together to send a bit of a message about the contradictions of of those two songs as well. So there's a few things like that in just as it and this much music that we wanted to add, but we actually had to just cut go night doesn't feet we have time get get rid of it. So hopefully that will just Kate refreshing. And we'll just keep adding Nissan's to it. I would give us a bit of a song or I can do the little little mix thing. A taylor. Speak up Attila. Shoutout took been louder be be prouder tiller. She's beautiful wonderful. Liberty thing. She doesn't see you gotta speak up. You gotta shout out and know, the right here right now, you can be beautiful wonderful, everything you want to be so that so that's one of our songs that we had in the shy. And we did that we Wildwood as well. All right. So just like as an overall perception, what are you hoping for audiences to experience by coming Josiah, something really unique? So you want people to be surprised, but also I want them to have a few takeaways, and I want them to actually think about some of the some of the themes, and I think, yeah, I just want people to have fun. I wanted it to be a little bit raunchy a little bit naughty. I wanted people to be playful. That's what we had a nine thirty pm slot. So people. Felt a little bit more fun and light hot 'age. So. Yeah. Hopefully, hopefully, we would shave that. And congratulations to be rewarded Thang award and recognized for their spring very excited. John congratulating key. The week four winners at the Bank is say best visual art and design award was shared by into the sea you and me and four thousand stories, and he is Rebecca to tell us about her award-winning exhibition. Hi, I'm Rebecca McEwen. I'm a visual artist from South Australia, and my show four thousand stories is showing at felt space until the twenty third much and say, well, you are want this week's weekly award winners for the best visual arts category. How does that feel pretty exciting? Yeah. It was very unexpected. So tell us a little bit about your exhibition. It's connected with bays is that raw meat is in his that's Spain the basis of my practice for a couple of years looking at the connection of humans and bays history. And this week is a chandelier made out of the out of Honey from about four thousand base, and that's the center of the exhibition. There's the sound Skype that goes with which I've worked with sound artist. And. Composed the tristen Louth ribbons whose we've recorded a couple of Bremmer apron Yama breathing sessions, which is humming. Baber the gate breathing technique and Lyod that up and that's pot. It was quite a small intimate exhibition in a really small spice. But it's a quite a visceral. The idea is to get a really reserve response from the viewer. Now, you send the chandeliers made from Honey. Yes, our guys are how does that work? So it's not dripping down Notre feeing about it's in tiny vial. So there's over a thousand tiny vials of Honey and h file contains about two to three bays lifetimes with of work, and that's all constructed into into chandelier shape. So what is it about bees? And Honey, and what is this message? You're trying to convey through this on exhibition a lot of my practices Bain. We ease over the last few years looking at that human nights, you connection the that really visceral response that we have to the natural world that we've kind of lost. Over the last few decades. And it's about looking at a way of trying to reengage us and stimulate that real intrinsic response to tonight show and try and make that connection again is is the idea behind my practice. I'm also bay Kepa Cy I've got a direct response to the stories of base. It's something I've been looking into in the folklore and mythology of bay capping over the centuries. Is there a mean particular stories around bays are really all they grab your attention? There is so many how there's a couple that. I really like one especially as cold the telling if the bays which is a European tradition. Where behinds were meant to be told by the family of bay Cape is when the bay caper died because Beza thought to come from other worlds and had magical POWs, and if you didn't communicate the goings on in your family to the bays than they they would leave behind some putting into mourning a black shroud was placed over them and member of the household. Have to go until H individual behind that the bay caper died, and that that we're going to be kid for and supported and that was dumb by easing the cave the house and tapping on the side of the behind straight times. So this is some there's some really really beautiful stories. So if you communication of messages through OTT, what is it that you're trying to communicate through the site having something multifaceted like a like these exhibition particular with the chandelier hanging in the middle of the rain, which has its own intrigue. But having that light sound Skype with it as well. The idea behind the sound Skype is that there's a lot of connections between humans and vibration and bays and bays. Vibrate. Hum at around middle say, which is also known as the human night, which is currently around the frequency that the human body resonance. But also, the average time of the human voice. So there's all these connections between bays and humans and vibration, and it was trying to put all of those elements in together to create something that. Elicited their response in the viewer. And of what has your Adelaide fringe experience? You'll solo ad lied. Fringe experience been law yet Spain. Excellent it's been a a great way to get a different audience three the gallery. Spices this to other exhibitions on it felt spice at the same time net penny in India kidding. Have also got working different spices. So I guess it's bringing a different audience to gallery spice that doesn't always get that exposure. That's great to be after Jay then be part of that. Well, thank you so much for joining us and congratulate thank you so much the week. Full winners of the bankers say bis children's event was shed by opera mouse and inside the walls Ajan pop up book ghost story, and he is Theresa and Billy to tell us about their award-winning shirt. Hello. My name's Teresa from Sultan, puppet theater. And this is Billy. We have come from Melbourne to do show. Oh called inside the walls. A giant Papa book. Go story full kids, and they're grown ups. You can find it at the ukiyo at gluttony this coming weekend Saturday and Sunday at eleven AM. Well, congratulations, your one of these weeks award winners for best children's Shari. Very exciting. Can you give us a little bit of a history about the creation of your show and wear your ideas for it have come from up -solutely about five years ago? I was lucky enough to receive the children's literature fellowship at the state library of Victoria and throughout that time. I spent the entire year delving deep into the collection of pop up books, and I taught myself how to make a giant pop up book, which today becomes the set of the show. You said this is John Papa. Yes. And then you've incorporated that into stories ghost stories. How does that come about? How do you make that work? Well, another type of story books that I was reading at the library were kids stories about ghosts, and ghouls and monsters and all the things that kids love and then throughout the time. I remembered an experience a head in Tasmania where I'm originally from where I. Helped my dad knock down a house that hey owned was really old house, and he was going to rebuild again. And as we knocked down we found this tiny little shoe underneath the front doorstep which got me thinking because it looked like it had been planted there. So I researched and I found out that it was actually superstition coming from the UK where people would hide little shoes from members of the family in places where they thought was weak in the house as like a good luck charm to keep all the ghosts out. So I took that idea that superstition, and then just embellish it into the story of inside the wolves what sort of reactions have you been having from audiences at French. Yeah. Throughout the show L the kids just seem to do lots of whispering and chattering because I think they're trying to work out. What's going on? There are a whole heap of spooks that through happened throughout the show and the do they're just. There quietly chatting to the next person going look at the shoes on tricks that keep them guessing. How's that done? Yes. And then at the end of HR we have a little question and answer as well with. I can find out how it's done. So the haven't worked it out themselves. Then they get a little injury into the tricks of the trade scary can see. It's not scary. It's just paper and puppet. And you said some of the big kids getting involved as well. Oh, definitely all the older people. Just love the fact that I can then say that their kids can go home and Mike it, and I can help them with it. And how does add light fringe compare? You know, you're being Edinburgh and other fringe festivals. How does Adelaide fringe compare those better? This is not the works. Really? Well, for fringes got some great venues, I think people in the city are really receptive. And they really get into the spirit of it. What what has been your journey? Then that's brought you to show. It's a raising. We brought it to Adelaide. Was you get a real sense of what works, and what doesn't when you're presenting it to an audience. So then yeah, you really can evaluate the work and kids are genuine. They're the best critics. Yes. What is it like working with children as an audience, very truthful that genuine they'll tell you whether they lack it or not that's for sure. And so then what to next you know, what are the next? I think just getting it out there getting it said a field. Hopefully, pick up a tool with it. It fits really well with workshops two years ago. When I was here, I did go to a few schools and do some incursion what shops in shadow puppetry and pipe engineering. So when I say piper engineering just think pop up cards, but yet packages really well with workshops, I did one in a fringe mall to seal the day on the fringe stage. People loved it. Yeah. The whole family's got involved. Not just the kids. All right. Well, thank you so much and congratulations. Once again. Thank you, very exciting. The full list of Bank say weekly fringe award winners hit the link in the Shino. It's be sure to subscribe to the Adelaide fringe podcasts. And never miss an episode to get the most out of your Adelaide fringe experience. Visit WWW dot Adelaide fringe dot com. Dodi you where you can browse shows by genre and location access fringed deals and a whole lot. More for regular fringe updates. Follow out social media channels all subscribe to a newsletter. Adelaide fringe podcast is produced by narrative marketing who'd believe that stories connect individuals and that storytelling compulsively impact the world.

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S5 EP127 Making it rain leads and sales with Matt Clark

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S5 EP127 Making it rain leads and sales with Matt Clark

"Welcome to the PODCAST I'm your host Robert Bras and today on the show. We have matt clock from the virtual edge DOT COM now if you WANNA take your business to the next level and Mike It, Ryan leads and sales then you're gonNA. Love this show. Let's get started. In one it's right to be doing some doubling podcasts and sharing some stories of success in uncovering what types too bright through into win today on the show. We have matt clock. Who as you'll see and he is one of the most passionate business owners you'll ever meet. You can tell when someone is living their purpose. I have the most incredible direction, the head, huge confidence and a swagger that's undeniable, and Matt has all three of these inspires. Now this is your first time here at the goal in show welcome. It's great to have you here and if you'll back for more welcome back, we love our repeat offenders. He goes in podcast before we get into the show that I. Take a little picky your phone and hit the subscribe button on the APP the listening in on, and if you're watching this on Youtube on down, and he the subscribe button there as well does he get to ring the bell that why? You always have some motivation and some gasoline love right there in your pocket as the new episodes come out. Lastly if you lock, we heated I, please share this episode with your friends and your family man has an important message to share, and if we can help, just one or two people break through their barriers and get on. That we would have done our job here on the podcast, today or audio. Let's get into this as you. He met came from humble beginnings. He didn't want to go to university. Offering left school, and after a series of life events, he found himself working the doors as a daughter two thousand in the UK. Fast forward to twenty twenty and matt has a thriving business and he helps other business owners gather three to five new leads each day via violating without spending a cent on advertising. That's an expert at what he does, but more than that he has the mindset of someone who truly knows what it takes to be successful. If you want to know how to make it, rain leads and sales and listening closely. Please help me in welcoming matlock. matlock welcome to the PODCAST. It's great to have you here might. Amazing Man, thank you for having me on, and obviously I'm from South Africa and not from the K. Get Ride in the beginning Oh. It's out there in the public. Got It wrong when I spoke to you. Sorry about. Before we get into all this. Craziness in the madness. Why don't we let get to let? The audience gets to know you a little bit? Why don't you tell us where you from you said you're from South Africa and also a little bit about how you got into what it is that you're doing today. Yeah absolutely man, so yeah based in South Africa lived here most of my life. I'm allowed to travel I've told. I don't know what forty two countries and Zach's pretty exciting, but hug got into what I'm doing today and you so what we do is we help entrepreneurs get two to five high value leads day from Lincoln without paying fads. And I've been very privileged in the last two years. We've been able to help over one thousand five hundred entrepreneurs in eighteen countries grow. and. That's kind of like my thing. I'm I. Love Seeing results. I love seeing people take businesses take their lives to the next level, and that's the kind of thing that gets me going. For Nausea where started you? You never started there, did you? Were you in silos before that? What did you do before you're in this business? Absolutely well. I guess we can go back into the know. We're not finished school. My Dad was like well great. You're going to go to. You'RE GONNA go to university and you're going to be the first one in the family to get a degree. You must be joking. About swearing. That can I go I go! I'll just I'll just put a little rock on arching were real good. Excellent so I was like you. You must be kidding me like there's no way as I am going to go and study because I hated school and now to go and do that. That's just not going to happen. And, so what I did stay was a landed up working white up. And Damn I built a got some cash flow going and I had a bit of a system going. So what I do is like my earnings for the night I would take one off and put it in my left pockets, and one off, and put in my right back pocket, and the reason for that was that I would save often spend Hof and so that was kind of like my philosophy grown up, and then what happened was that I got to a stage. We hours just honestly I was putting too much. and. I landed a crushing. My Dad's Gone Crashes Springs Cau-. He was like all right enough now. So he went into cub, Grad, role of cash bought me a plane ticket Sydney over to the UK. It's going to do some work. And ended up doing you know installations of Sky TV over there and I was like it was disgusting terrible. Now I hated it, and so that lost all of about a week and a half. And then. A winsome sold its other ad for job in the newspaper and I went for an interview in the middle of London. And what happened was that eventually figured out that this whole thing into three or four rounds interviews, and it was nuts I mean they got us to click like a chicken and sing songs? Tell jokes was much ridiculous interview. Right turns out at the end. It's for job doing door to door. Sales Gosh. Yeah and so you know, they only allowed a couple of people through based on the personality profiles, and if they pass the takes, it takes a special kind of animal. And I was one of those animals apparently. Turns out you what? Out I was right. And so they send me off to a castle in Scotland to get trained up for two weeks. And it was fantastic. I mean we did intense sales training to the script to practice knocking doors. We did team building exercises which to figure it out. That was how they're going to determine. WHO's GonNa? Be like the leaders and managers and all that stuff. And so we all went off into a different areas, and that's when I figured out. I loved sales number one I'm pretty good at it. And so I just kept on building on the skill. You started reading books on that. I kept learning script I kept putting more into it. And I think that's you know there's a fundamental difference because some people say Oh, you're just natural, born and salesman. No, you natural born something. And I think there is something to it, but I also believe that something that can be looked. Like any skill, you know some people just got a natural affinity for it. But if you don't nurture it, and you don't put more into it, you grow and learn it. Somebody else can become better than you. That doesn't have that skill. I saw agree with that I. Think the the natural pot about siles unification paste. If you're clear communicator and you'll good having a conversation then you couldn't learn to be good at sales as well and styles is being something very close to my heart over the years as an entrepreneur, all entrepreneurs deal with that. You know you gotta get out there and. You'RE GONNA sell presenting in front of you know boardrooms, and all sorts of things over the years and of my every mistake there is to my in that book of course, and I've had some really be satisfying wins as well and you know in some ways. It's a metaphor philosophy. selling constantly like that because everything is sales. Like that you still have a love it tonight. Absolutely absolutely I mean I've got you know we live and breathe what we do, so you know what if we teach people to do what we do in in business? I mean I've got twenty. Two sales calls booked in for this week while right. Is He busy? Love it. Oh, yeah, absolutely no I love it. We got some big goals to hits right so between me and my team at minimal so busy training absence sales people so booking bookings Kohl's in jumping on with them, doing the sale teaching them as we go along so that I can stay out of it in the next couple of months, As as as I've grown in business and become more successful. A fallen out of love with style as much. In love with as much as I was. I haven't fallen out of love. Maybe that's not quite accurate, but I don't love it as much as I used to I used to love the Chinese. The hassle and you get in there and you'd win and I'll be like But I don't think I'd I, I, I don't have as much energy for the tries to hustle and trying to get in there is is a as all wants, do and went on weaned I'm kind of a little bit more satisfied with Adam. Yeah. Just like down tools and go straight to the nick style. Luck I once did. Hundred percent I think it changes. You know because I'm kind of in that stage as well could fourteen people on my team, and at the moment I knew reason I'm doing so many sales because I'm training people up. In, building systems in the structure so that they can take over from me so that they can be at that high level. that. I think it changes. You have different kinds of sales that happened in your life of different kinds of sales that happened to your business. They hit. You excited and get you going. And they tend to be bigger and fewer parts. And you just want to enjoy life a lot more than just chasing bloody sales all the time kit. Can You Can you share with us a story of silos where you where you crashed in and good, if you? All share a funny one. Lessons to learn in something like that, so tell us about one. That went really badly wrong on you. Yeah so it was actually I. think what are the ones that stands out in my mind the most they've been tons that have gone wrong right, but the one that stood standards in my mind, the most I was was my second day of knocking doors in the UK so now just gone through all this training. We've gone not officially smashed it out. The pocketed like five deals, and people went nuts like oh my God. This is going to be great. Sekine Day. Added to deals, but here's what happened. Went and I got my two deals early in the morning. And I'm going to knock the door and I'll never forget in this place called black good lease in the UK, which is like really council area, right and the people are arrested. So then the stole and this woman opens up elevators and electric is. Dedication is a free number. If you want your grandchildren. Off. Can you just fuck off as a white? I'm fucking sick and tired of you guys coming to my door and knocking every single day I've had enough of loss. No, you know Just Funchal Bang and she slams the door in my face, and I was like. Well. You know like I'm. Like I've been shouted at I didn't exactly grew up in a stable home. Let's put it that way, right. But that's someone you know. Someone squad different story. Yeah like? She just came out to the door. Guns blazing nausea garage. That's crazy. So then I'm like like a little bit Shell, shocked and I start walking away and I hear the door a game. And I'm kind of expected to be like sorry I didn't mean to go nuts. When you like that, it's a little kid I mean there must have been about eight to ten years old and a chatted. Meet and don't ever fucking comeback back. The door game. What Apple. From the tree literally. But there is a silver lining to the story right? So what happened was that they sent me back about two months later to the same place and gave me the same root cause. I didn't sign any more deals on that manager. Shots at me and I was just like Oh my God. This is is all gone pear shapes. And so am I, got to the door back to two months later and I was like Nah, I'm not knocking that Dole. There's no way I'm doing it. Exists there was like a ring the firearm getting? Some managers was just shot at music. You go and knock it. You better get deals struggling again on that road. And I went to knock the door and she's like they must hate you. Like. What are you doing? Yeah, just waiting shot. That may dine in fact. Comeback slammed the door in my face again when I was like pretty much expected that. But I wasn't as traumatized by this time. And so. We wait BECCA. Gain about a month later to the place. And I was like rights. Because now I'd had a lot more experience on signed. A lot of deals dealt with a lot of different situations as I. Give me that road. I'm going there. Do I will straight up to the door in the morning knocked on the door. She's like Oh. My God did do they just hate you stupid or what I? It look at his deal. Right either you're gonNA shut up and listen to what I have to say. Okay, because I can genuinely help you right or I'm just going to come back tomorrow and the day after and the day after and the day after. Honestly if I can't help you I'm GonNa tell you can help you out of the hey, anyways and I'll never come back what you say to that. She was like okay. Come inside ended up signing, or if we absolutely everything we could sign them. I'M GONNA win. Win that that's actually not a crash in Boone Story. That's a story of and commitment. Yeah well I mean. It was a crash in the first one. But I kind of don't really. I think every time that I've crashed and burned like that unlike knock-on. Icon a conflict like that, you know I gotta go back and figure something. We've done that. Sorry go ahead, we we, we kind of had that attitude in our businesses. Well, because we've had situations like in the poss win before I got into this Lincoln thing. We've worked with big clients and we've. We haven't got the results that we felt like we crashing. And we've always gone back in like, and made it rights and salted arts and put the work in so. kind of really just left it there always Wanna go back in my sorted out at least to a stage where it's okay, it doesn't have to be perfect. That's Okay N- Nacion Great, lessening their of PLO severence and resilience. It's a good one. I worked on a project with a friend of mine cliff. Gosh it must have been about two months in a calm knighted with meeting in across the road from central station here in Sydney and it was with the New South Wales Royal Authority. And the names Chine so many times I think at the time it was called style. Changed the name of these government run organizations and I was led to believe that it was like an initial meeting, and the meeting was set for two o'clock, and I said in the meeting. Invite that it's a little bit confusing to find. Because there was two buildings in the same address, and I were in this one here and you had to go in this lift, and it was a bit of a Rabbit Warren to find this. Of course, I didn't leave myself enough time and I'm always on time, but this particular dial was running a little bit lights. And I went into the building or when it's the wrong place. Someone directed me to the replies I got there and I was all flustered. Because now I'm like ten minutes light and I'm expecting what to people, so the meeting because that's kind of no-one said how many paper we're going to be there and. A bomb burst through the door through the boardroom door when that finally finally got there and jog. There's like thirty people in the room. General, sitting about this big hole shoe title is like engineers, rail, engineers and parts of like advertising and marketing people and they're all. Their pencils in the hands and their pans and they're going to you. He now. I was. Paid at all had no presentation. And like Clare was. Where have you been waiting for you and it's like. She was stressed. Always stressed and everyone was like you know always the entertainment for their often inside. Of that is actually give yourself enough time. That's the first one and. And maybe prepared. Did you sign the deal and the whole saliva? All. fell. Completely wash it. and. I've had mops and downs in in business like that. But it's really because of my mistake. You don't deal with the get in front of that's just a fact of law Andrew Percents, but but that one I didn't even get a chance to. Win The deal. Because it up right at the start. It's of under that that's how not to do so. Yes I had a I had a time where it was so similar kind of situation and we actually doing. So when I stop knocking doors in the UK back to south. Africa and I started at the started working for one of my friends. While doing that culprit, piloting gets absolutely hated it writing. Listening ever fool me okay and one of the guy that I used to work for in the UK fund me up one day, and here's like Mac you gotta come and see me I the best thing ever. Say Foes will choose day. A went to see him on the Wednesday I. Quit my job on the. Wednesday and I was like. I'm in I'm only. Going with that direction. And, what happened was that? We ended up selling telephone systems like the copy of TV does Dole on five use agreements. Dude amazing then I mean. I was like nineteen years. All making you know in terms of Ozzy dollar terms between eight and twenty grand a month. Know you clean up selling systems lot that especially on five year contract. Yeah absolutely cleaning up, and I remember walking into this building the one day, and we used to love going and knocking on these engineering firms right. Because it had like a small a small office in that have a big yard and they were really easy to Celtic. And so the walked into this place. And had a chat with the receptionist and like echina- speak to the owner. A Joe Lucky. Day they're in. Fantastic also expecting to three people walk into this boardroom turns out. It's a multinational company is like eighteen people around the boardroom that got the director's from Switzerland from Germany, from China from all over sitting in this building and I'm like. Deer in headlights. But Luckily I knew script ahead of backups. Like what is the number? One thing engineers lack drawings. Board and it just drew the whole picture. We actually ended up winning. The deal is beautiful. Dark. Office multiple locations. We WanNA for three offices. International we're going to have a discussion at a later stage, but as you doing door-to-door sales, just move on to the next next next kind of just fell by the wayside, an Australian one. Well Matt, thank you so much for sharing a little bit of your background with Austin with the audience, people come on over to the goal in podcast to learn more about others that have gone all in south. Could could you please share with US your biggest goal in story or stories and the lessons that you've learned from your commitment to success? Yemen has been a couple where you know you kind of and I think one of the big things of being an entrepreneur having an entrepreneurial spirit. I, I've actually have never worked for a salary. This is the first time in my life as an owner of a company that I own a Saturday night, nuts ride the rest of the Times. I've only on commission, so if you don't work on solid on my cash at the same time, you know I, love to do it and I'm you know I got a system? Downside can make a Lotta money. But so one of the Times going all in was time at just shaved with you Dave where I was kind of you. Put a lot of strings outside. I'm not someone that's always known what I wanted to do. My entire highlife. You know there's those people. I'm going to be a doctor. A lawyer I'M GONNA. Be Whatever it is and that's what they do. That's not me. Night. Subways voice tried a bunch of things. It's whatever I've really liked. Have Gone further in. And so that was one time when I was doing as kind of like messing around during the few things as looking full something to do. And Mold Find me up and he has that. I'm doing this thing. That's the easiest I've ever made to. A selling telephone systems door to door as I. Okay cool. Yeah Yeah so was living in Johannesburg at the time. So he was up in Johannesburg, Winston Soy among the you find me on the choose DASS woman the Wednesday quit my job the same day and I was I. What do I need to do is I need you to move. K. Tom for three months so we can train new up. We're GONNA. Open up a job office in I'm like okay, let's do it. And eighteen just about ten nineteen at the time. And actually found my old payslips the other day sitting here next to me, and I looked at the kind of cash that was earning at that stage, and it was ridiculous. Men as making more money than both my parents combined while you're always note at the time. They kind of like. Yeah, you do well in older as they just didn't know how well. I think it would have had a bit of a heart attack you. And so you know from that that experience led me to. Growing more into sales, and then an opportunity came a couple of years later and I kind of went in and out of it because I did that for a couple of years dough sales. Every day is intense. Joshua's a slog. Yeah and even if you are making good money at salts like you working hard every single day. And, so I got to a stage whereas look I. don't WanNa. Do this anymore on us. and. Then I did a couple of other things you know through a couple of strings ave day, see what would stick and I made a money nothing nothing to amazing. And I went back into it right. And then I got an opportunity where. My, the the guys working for at the time. He sits me that look. We are opening up. The I want to open up an office in Durban and I want you to rent it. And Zach Okay I can do that can change the game a little bit so I moved to double up just? Stephan and left us and end up living there for three or four years, and became the most successful office myself in an a friend of mine we running that office in was the most successful office we cleaned up. Just ridiculous. And a couple of years later I had an opportunity to open up a business with them to my to my friends, and also doing telecoms, and we did that, and we just kind of wait all in. We set up a Samson dealership. We dropped everything else that we were doing a big scary mood fracture. Do know what was going to happen. But in our first year we did twelve million rand in sales about one point two million Australian. A second year we did twenty four third year we did sixty million and a fourth year. We did one hundred million in revenue. WOW, fantastic! So? Yeah, it was intense. But on the first day, so how crazy is because? We left? He has a crazy story for you, right? So because we left we working for another company at the time building it up, we left the company I. Mean We'd build that company up. We hide all the people we trained everyone and we said look. Is We leaving and Some of you are going to WanNa stay. Some of you are going to want to come with us. Who would like to do what? Came some left. On the first day we opened up the office right. The Sheriff of the coach was waiting they with the season system. Why They called it a mutiny. Gosh! Because we lift the previous company and some of the sales, guys came with US Gosh and so some of them state. Came with US and Yeah, that's how we started, but we landed making it a very successful company. Visit Foundation of what we've been able to achieve in this business today, and what's happened to that business still exist or or no more. So I sold my shares in that business a couple of years ago and you know what what started happening. was that making money become more important than how he made money? And, it started like my values. Wasn't aligning with my bad using an honestly just selling boxes. Hardway wasn't very fulfilling. And I've realized now is that you know I need to do something that is actually fulfilling that helps other people grow that way. We can see actual results As I had to make a change and also you. I didn't want to be knocking doors for the rest of my life, yeah! That leads to another story of going all in. Yeah! Absolutely, what's another version of it? Isn't it absolutely matty? If someone's listening to this podcast or what? She needs video on Youtube and the teetering on the edges of diving in having a crack, because just in in the last ten minutes. You've said Oh. I just picked up an move to that place, and I moved to that place and begin your hallway off up whether you're nineteen years old, or you're thirty nine years all picking up and moving somewhere else is a big thing and starting something new is a big thing and I. Get a lot of feedback from this show of IRA bomb I'm thinking about doing this and you know inevitably it's a business something like that, but. I'm just too scared to take the league. What would you say to somebody? That's right on the very edge in on the edge of the unknown, but I can't quite get there. How'd you? How'd you give him a nudge across the Georgia? Just like give Michelle. Yes. It's interesting. Because I'm actually at that stage with a with a big decision. Myself in mind my fiance at the moment We're actually getting married at the end of this month. Thank you. Go, we're actually looking at relocating country. This year and it's a big decision. Right huge and so yeah, you know kind of win an NFL look back at the decisions that are made back then. As. Younger I had no ties. I had no responsibilities I had I wasn't paying full anything rain till apartment that I was living. It's very easy to make a decision. And I really just looked at the opportunity and I said. What is Opportunity GonNa. Give me. Looked at us an exhibit cool, you know getting up and moving to as an example I looked at it, and instead of saying. Here's what I'll share. How I think about these things and maybe that can help people move forward. Is that. I looked at the opportunity and I was like. Is this going to get me for the? For the two wards, my goal than where I am right now. On says yes I just did it. Like it's that simple beautiful k. and what it means when you go through that all you can meet New People at thirty. Are you going to experience new stuff? Absolutely? Are you going to learn new things? Absolutely all you're GONNA have to find new friends accidentally Matheson people that scares the shit out of it. For me I love to travel, and as I get I mean. Let's. I mean. And so even now I mean we're looking at it. Because South Africa's that a really interesting point in terms of the politics, and in terms of the what's going on in the country. And I'm kind of looking at this and I'm like all we going already? Making a decision that is going to get as close to was a goals non says yes, is it going to? We're going to have to make more friends and change our lives, and you know now. It's not just me making the decision year me. It's easy like if I'm by myself. Yeah, absolutely I'm. Let's go experienced Nisha. That's me. But my fiance and she's got three businesses, yeah. And they're not businesses that you can run from anywhere in the world like minus. I've built my business specifically of the PAWSOX years. That I can stick out of it and can run without me and it can happen anywhere in the world yeah. I would say you know. Somebody is teetering on the edge. The number one thing that is certain in life these things. It's not death in Texas. It's death and change. Because some people just avoid, Texas you're. Not Great, but it happens. And also, if you're in a certain earning record, you don't pay taxes anyway, so yeah. Three things at a certain is Dick can change rights, and if you don't change, life is going to be boring. And if you look at the six human needs is you know certainty or uncertainty like some people crave certainty, and some people crave uncertainty. Uncertainty is more important than certainty. But if you're somebody that needs certainty and you've got a big decision to make. Is Very simple the certainty comes in is Emma certain. This is going to get any closer towards my goal. Is Yes go do it. 'cause Mandeville things in your life, and even if things don't work out, you'll learn some pretty important lessons. Yeah I love that. You know you just never know way. You'RE GONNA end up and you just never know what's going to happen on the other side of those decisions and that little bit of uncertainty is GonNa for me. That's a bit exhilarating in in some wise obeying building a caution lost. The Boston, your mind and go willing costs on that'd be coming out in the next couple of weeks and one of the one of the things that had to do which has been a hell of a lot of fun is to reflect back on all of the interviews that I've done over the last year or so and this being of Donald Two hundred interviews of an interview more than two hundred times myself and Shawna Dubai reflecting on all of that was to try and find the common denominator in what it is that people have when I decide that they're going to go all in on something and. Discovered was. Some people just do it without even thinking. And other people are really methodical. Will sometimes you forced into a circumstance like you're gonNA medical? Diagnosis of cancer and you've got no choice. You've got a goal in and commute to that and solve your problems right in other people like they do it by default block. It's just happen to them, so has happened to him. Oh Jeez! If I commit to this then you know. I'M GONNA. Lose my business so I'M GONNA lose relationship like that, and then there's the people that go ahead and Plan methodically. Methodically in everything that I do so, there's sort of like three categories of going all in which has been a really interesting journey to her back, and look at all those interviews and remember those people and see all the things that have happened with a common theme amongst all of them is what I decided was. How do you distil letdown? And how do you analyze all of that? The people that are successful when they go all in other ones that focused on the things that they can control. And they only concentrate on what it is that they can control i. let go and everything else. Stuff usually works out from things. Don't always go there why it doesn't always work out perfectly of call spot. Fight on what you can control then at allows you to make decisions in a more. More decisive white is what I'm trying to say and decide. It's a really interesting thing. You just all of the things. You can't control it on worry about. Go a movement to any country. I'll find friends there. Man On finding threats I'll find new places. I'll find the GM I'll find the pool and the bitch. Big Deal, rot. Hundred percent and you know it's interesting, so and you know share a little bit more about you with how I think on these things, so you say is getting close toward you go so for me. It's like I. What we what? We take some of our clients through. Is that you know I set my goals for the next three years and I wanted to Tim. What is my business gonNA look like in terms of my revenues and my prophets. What is my lifestyle looked like it was. My team needs to look like in order for me so in order for me to have those revenues with that's an lifestyle what does not need to look like the can run the business without me. Okay, and then a with my way, beckwith. So, what do I need to do in the next twelve months? WHAT REVENUES PROFITS product selling price points on my selling that in what is my structure? My leverage in my staff looked like that allows me to scale. They break it down into the next ninety days. What are the three? Excuse me. What are the three? Major three key projects that I need to get done in the next ninety days that are going to get closer to my goal. How do I? How do I launch it? How do I measure the success of that? And then go into. What do I need to do this week? And then what I need to do on a daily basis to get closer to that and so when I say getting closer toward your goals, and how I get to those daily and weekly actions is awesome myself. The question is what are the things that are transformational, and what are the things that are transactional. The transformational things are the things that I absolutely must do a musket done in order to get closer towards my goal. The transactional things are things that I can eat a delegate or just don't do. So like what you've said. You've put it into a different way where it's like focus on the things that I can control. And the things that I can control of things that are going to get any closer towards my goals. Everything else will fall into place because you know when you've got that drive and you've got that vision you going for what you want. That attracts things to you. Don't need to go looking too hard like when when we actually put down everything that we wanted and who we wanted and we wrote on like as an example. I've just hired A. Before covid I mean, we had six people in our team. We've now got fourteen people on that team. Had A client success director Haida assails director and a bunch of sales, people and we have very specific role for that sales director for that and clients exists of who that person needs to be. In one of a sudden, it just popped up life them. All Time you didn't realize. Well I didn't even the one I did. Neither one I was kind of like. We've always been joking. He worked for a big speaker and I was always. Come work for me instead. I win this whole thing. Shut down, nor the event shut down like its have the conversation. Actually popped in literally literally popped in and the other lady I. Mean I didn't even know she was in us via, but she's been following as she said she's been following us for the past eighteen months eleven what we were doing. We found out that she's like she was. She helped. Am really prolific market build some day? Stephanos this guy that we learned from his well This is amazing. And so when you put that out there and you've got the clear focus, and and you know what you're going off to those things. Come into your life. Also. Shows y'all manifest stuff like crazy. Well if you give your. Show up and you lost, and you don't give your attention to the things you don't want. Thou doll rock up and I really I. Don't know if you call that spiritual, but I definitely believe in that you know what to do with attention. It's really. It's really important stuff that you sharing. Matt I. Appreciate You being so giving with your knowledge and your experience in that I know the audience listening and watching we'll. We'll get something out that and one of the things in in creating the Coleslaw built for myself is. I had to try and define. It's just such a weird thing. We'll come back at interviews in creating. A coal surround the concept of going well lean. It's it's an abstract concept by the way. It's kind of Cool Rod, thought everyone Zan's, and their understands the mindset. But what do you? What do you really need to do to go in and? One of the things that I again it's a common theme amongst everybody. Is that a goals? I have target that they're iming ads, but then what they do is they focus on the process over the outcome, and they spend the vast majority of their die, eighty to ninety five, almost one hundred percent of their die, focusing on what I need to do today to close the gap from with I wanna be and yet the only way that can happen. Is You set these goals out, and and you have those goals in? High definition, that's what I call ultra high definition objective in I. Can, see exactly what it is looking for in crystal, clear clarity than I reverse engineer in exactly the the why you describe it your another one of those people that does that, but then they let the goal. Goats like yes. Yes, sit always going to do. It's written down already. Know what it is not giving any attention tonight. Water I need to who am I hiring today I. who was that Lady Again? WHO's that guy? Foam and it just works just such beautiful thing to see that in action. Poetry in motion really is what I describe it. It's beautiful. It is men, and then you know you go, and you look back at the goals again after three months, and you like them like you know because as you're going through it. You don't feel like you're achieving them, and then you go back and you actually look at the planning. With spot, yeah, absolutely one hundred percents run, and so you know you were talking about the focusing on the processes, so we call that. The leading indicators versus the lagging indicators right so you lagging indicators? Are Your Monte reports. It's sales. It's money in the bank. It's new clients. Those results outcomes right. We focused on the leading indicators. What are the things that you need to do on a daily consist on a daily basis and consistently to get to that outcome? And very often. People are focusing on on the wrong thing they're focusing on. They're trying to focus on the outcome. which is the win as such? Right the big win. But they forget all the small little wins that they had along the way, which actually is how they got to that bigwig. And that's the thing that people say. It's so easy to do that because you look on on social media and this person's like I just did you know two hundred and fifty thousand dollars in the last three weeks, and this one's I I'm on my private yachts, and the sons like flying first class fact like. What is going on? Why can't I do that? And the problem is that that's outcome you know that show that just showing the result and not try and all the work that they did to get the all the fails. All the you've had that sang. What success! Might, not success takes ten years to get like. So it's a leading indicators nothing. If there's one thing that I could say people listening in today is focused on the leading indicators. Focus on the small things like if you WANNA grow business focused on. How many Kohl's? How many needs in my generating today? Of them turning how many IMAC qualifying? How many tuning into sales in how many a closing? How do I increase the amount of increase? The quality of you that focus on that and the results will come. You know focus on your mindset focused on your attitude focused on bullying team, putting systems and processes in place like older unsexy shit. That's the stuff that builds the business. Absolutely process over outcome by. A love! and. They had just value bombs. Let fraud instead, so thank you, thank you. I want to shift keys a little bit now. If I, if I may WANNA. Find out some more directly about your business. You know one of the cool things about having your own podcast is. You can ask questions that you want to ask. Pretend like I'm doing it on a box. The audience but I really want to know exactly. What a rainmaker by come on what I want the. The the leads just to rain from the sky from my business. Tell me about. What's the proper name of Your Business? You've got that his right. Mike is and all that sort of stuff, but tell us about. The name of the businesses called the virtual edge. And that's the website virtually dot com, the virtual H. dot com. The program that and the process that we put together is called the rainmaker. He'd system. Right and this is all about how to get to five. High value leads every single day business. Now let me qualify what we determine as elite. Because there's a lot of people they're announcing Lincoln that a saying you know twenty to fifty deeds a day and all the race. And look at that I'm like bullshit. I'm calling. I'm calling it. It's. Just like yeah, absolute bullshit, because what they're counting counting connections and according to lead. So what I determined as elite. Is very specific, and this comes from my daughter. Go background. My door sales background like my goal is to. How do we turn somebody that has never seen before that? We literally knocking on the door? Okay, we'll virtually knocking on the door. And turn them into Pan Customer in the shortest period of time. So. What did I come in well? There's a couple of things we need to before we can actually get there so in the rainmaker system these three stages. Position, connected scale. In the position stage is all about. How will you set up so that your ideal clients know how to work with you before they even talk to you? Okay and so the first stage is actually diving, deep into who is ideal kind and getting laser focused us what we call the power of one. Solve one big problem for one ideal client, Okay Stop Day, and if you've got multiple avatars and multiple products and services, that's okay. Choose one for Lincoln. Okay choose your high ticket stuff for Lincoln. Right, so then dive deep into. Who's this ideal kind? What did they painted frustrations? The fears that keep them up at night. The implications of not solving those paints. What did they goals into is and dreams and aspirations. Then we go, and we create what we call the pickup line which step number two. And pick line shows people how to work with you before they even talk to you. Now, this is your headline in Lincoln. So. Some people will have also pud cost podcast tire store, and you know Directo Co founder. Excuse me and so what I've got, and that's kind like ordinary. We call that Brown Buck Syndrome. Because how does that help? You stand from anybody else? That's doing the same thing as you. Read. It doesn't. So what we want to do is we want to create something that's irresistible, says an example mine. My pickup line on linked in is I help coaches, consultants and advisers get two to five high value leads per day from Lincoln without paying fats. Useful I want to know how you'd I'm pay for ADS. Exactly right and so that's the law and there because that's. The way I described that. Oh, I use a process the. Process wrought called inception. Where I love it. Becomes your idea, because if you're telling me that I can get two to five lanes without having to pay some something. That's your ID straight up and that's why I. D you pick up law and so. My resistance to you has gone away completely. There's no come on man that's bs calm. Not Tell me. You've got to I wanted to to five. How do I get what do I need to do? It's a process of mechanics. Hundred percents and people literally reach out to me and say. Can you help me get to two? Five leads a day I. Look at them, coach consultant Vita Mike Yeah. Absolutely, Let's talk. They're the ride. Avatar you can help them. Get Him when you call. Andrew percent, and so the third step is changing profile during the profile makeover, and this is where you take your profile from an ego centric profile that focuses everything on you to a clientcentric sales page that focuses everything on them beautiful by the mistake. Most people make is they profiles a written by Cassivi like they're implying for a job. Right. You gotta turn into sales page. Focus everything on them. They're and frustration so. Will it work that you did? You're not finding out about them. You put it on the profile. So, now we go to what is actually lead. Okay, so for me. A lead is somebody that I've gone in connect with have specifically targeted of gone and connected with him. They've read my profile. They've gone through everything I've sent them a message saying hey, look. These are kind of results. We help people get you WanNa get on a colon. If it's a good fit, okay, that's. Very short and sweet. And then they'll say yes, and then I'll get the cell phone number in the email address. That's what I consider lead. Yeah, absolutely. That's a real league. Where and you know it's more than just zoom coal, sometimes as well or Scott call on a lot that to phone number in there. Always go people on the phone when I say that US. And shocked shunt! Yeah, I'm GonNa, talk to you like a human man. Lock exactly. Keyboard no hundred percents. Yeah, so you know even take that process further right so? I shared with you. I think before I call is that I've got this week? Twenty two sales calls booked in. But now we don't just determine so I don't just leave that as a lead that debt for me is, that's a that's a good lead, but that's not a qualified sales lead. Yeah, so we take it a step. What will happen is that you know my my sales. Assistant will phone them, and it will qualify them, and they'll spend five minutes asking them a bunch of questions edifying the hell out of me, and if they're a good for, then then we book a Sales Co. with me. And? What they've got to do is before they even talked to me. They've got to watch video. That explains what we do in how we do it. Yes so by the time they give them a call I've seen. Thanh stops wasting it. Yeah exactly yeah, so those Sav got twenty two sales appointments. That's the process people go through. Yeah, yeah, off! Somebody's if somebody's listening to this and thinking. How should Fall Bay because you? You covered off a lot of stuff there than in. If if you'll link gain is is a little bit of a dog's breakfast or it's Brown box as you put it. What should be the first thing they should do like he's it. There is a photo is a Hetero. Midge is a description of them. You know because. The problem with it is. And and I'm kind of asking this question on behalf of myself, because I'm trying to put myself in in the in the ears of the listener that's listening to this or watching this and people. Like so much conflicting information on. Is is the call Wlac the flu, or is it like the plague all going to die? I Dunno look at one website, not bigalow side. There's nothing to worry about. Someone else tells me. It's five J. I don't know what to believe. You know exactly how how do you boil down that confusion and The most important thing to do is. Well, I mean there's a couple of fundamentals right and the fundamentals and have a professional profile picture. Okay, no-one, have you sitting on the beach with your cats, or whatever that? It's right? Have a professional profile picture Nike. Pets pets allowed if unless that, you business. From the James Bond Villain padding petting the cat. Well. Up to you, what results do you WanNa? Get Right. This is the question, so if you're in business, it's put it this way. If you're in business and you, professional clients gun by the giant conventional fire. Yeah, exactly have professional fighter right and it's super simple. Just one of you dress nice playing background smiling whatever it is biting. Have a background that brands you. Right and then you got a crash a pickup line now the the thing that most people say and I've seen a lot of Lincoln. People talk about this is that you know credit for putting also part costs? Whatever it is that you put that in, so gives you great, Seo. I'm like okay. That's cool you and how many other people yeah. Right so now you all of you look the same, and if someone does do a search, and they bring up fifty of the same people how you going, stand out, yeah! Right so what we do is we call. We create the pickup line. Which is showing people how to work with you before they even talk to you. and how we do that very simple and I'm actually just going to give you the formula, because at the end of actually got a document, it's called a twenty minute profile makeover that people can go and actually just download and go through some of the stuff, not right. And so the formula is very simple. I help review ideal clients is remember power one achieve whatever result you help them achieve. You need to have a Mexican timeline. A K. through whatever system methodology is. That simple. So now I found going onto profile and it says look I. Help Coaches, consultants, and advises get two to five high value leads per day from Lincoln without paying for ads. I'm like Okay I. Get it I know how to work with you. And you know I want to let you have. Yeah, you know immediately whether or not that's the post view as well if you're looking for that new, because you might not be shopping for then I, said then suddenly. I'm ready to shop for all right. Let's saw absolutely. Let's pick one. I. Yes new. Pick Law and says I'll help you build your expert status foster up with your own podcast and guest bookings onto other people shows. Again. So first question is you said I'll help you. Who was you? Know Avatar. Right so who's ideal client? So you gotta get clear on that right? Then you say bill experts that is foster with your own podcast guest. Bookings onto other people show while you're focusing on the methodology owed through putt costs, guest bookings, but what is the result that they're going to? have an increase in business. Are they going to get more leads, and if so, how many and in what timeframe more specificity? will focus on the outcome. All good. Yeah absolutely absolutely! Outcomes, I love focus on the outcome because then when people read it, they're like okay. I get it. And there's a bunch of things that you can do on your profile me. Ten points that we focus on the profile, but you know just getting those rights will immediately breached your status and will immediately if you've got to mean. Ten thousand connections right. So very often, we see people that have got connection and it doesn't matter if it's five. Hundred, thousand, ten, thousand doesn't matter. Very often just when they change that pickup line the image in the background, people reach oxygen and the like are congratulations. I like what you do. Can we ever talk yeah? Yeah because. It happens all the time. It's fantastic. Not that's again. My that's just gold. Thank you so much for sharing that information. Who is your ideal client? Is. Coaches consultants you said that a couple of times. Who Was it that you want to connect with? And who can you help the most? Yes so, we're really focusing on professional, so cutch consultants advises and works really really well, and we've actually built a system in the back end because. Very often what we find is that coaches, consultants and advisers. They've really good at what they do. They got no idea how to market themselves an idea. Majority. I'll say that'll autumn business to they? Always. WanNa start a podcast and it's like well. What are you? GonNa do. When you do that because there's a lot of work, it's a huge amount of commitment you know. SIT DOWN! Remark refined every couple of days to to get it recorded in underestimate. What's required and so I sort of give them a bit of a reality. Check there as well inside or phospholipid sixty six months into the future. You got your podcast. What are you going to do with it? Always, always a little. Absolutely. I've toyed with the idea of starting podcast while, but I'm just I can. At the moment. I don't have the time. Go on like this. It's easier. That's what I do. Then that's exactly what I do. I mean you had my sister. Reach out to you and say the whole thing up, right? We got a system in place for this. Yeah, it's both. And what are we? Did have the I did have the. Have you read? A book? CALLED THE GO GIVE A. Yes Okay Bob and John David Matt Right. So I actually had the opportunity like I. Don't have a Pod, cost or anything, but one of my friends. One of my friends, just parts of the book the go giver on his Timeline has acted love the book rate like Twenty Times. We use a lot of the principals in business today and Bob Berg actually reached out to me any any say, thank you so much. And I was like dude I'd love to interview you. Just want to talk to you like a bit of a fan boy kind of I brighter and. Because I. Just love the philosophy so much. And so last week I got an a podcast with images interviewed him, and at the end of like how many listeners and everything got? Artistique my first one. Yeah. That's a hundred percent. But he has got is. We've got ten thousands of people in our database that we're going to be sending out to enough social media's all rates. We're going to be doing a big push on this as well, but I just wanted to say. Thank you and really. I just wanted to meet you. Pick your brain. That's nice. That's nice. was He giving? Huge. Yeah, he's you know He. He actually lives what he teaches and that's something that I really resonate with because that's what we do in our business while the. Out? The crazy thing I see with a lot of. Coaches and experts and everything is that they've they've always made the money from teaching, right? They haven't made the money from actual business experience. Yes, and so you know not that that's a bad thing. I mean if you can help, people get results foster than what they can do themselves scribe do it. By all means. But you get a different level of experience. When you've had your own business. You built those things before. I came from door to door sales that comes with a different set of skills that we've applied to this and built business before so I can help. People navigate some of the things that I've gone through So, we can help people. We you know. We've actually built different levels in the business of people just WANNA. Come and learn how to get leads, and that's the one thing they need fantastic. We've got program that can help you know. People want to come in and they WANNA. Start putting in some systems and some automation and create more time, so you know they've got a product that selling well. They've got. You have got some clients Iranian. Looking to get more leads, tournaments, pan customers, but also do it in a more leveraged way. We've got something that can help them. The next lap is like okay. We really want to build a system. We want to build a business that can take them into in where we doing videos. Where we you know, it's a proper business building system that will help them package the business and package. They knowledge in a way that can sell high prices. I mean. We had a client the other day I mean his based in Zeeland actually. So is based. Month was at grand right and you know he was working really hard for that eight grand. And what we did was we jumped on a coal, and I helped him package what he says. And who is target market was we created a four thousand eight hundred dollar offer I K we focused specifically on trade professionals and what he helps trade professionals do is go from employees too starting their own business in ninety days. You see the clarity enough to pick up line yeah right. And what happened was that within a week and a half he'd signed five clients who? It, a twenty five thousand dollar week and a half. Thank you know. The MOM's not even over three weeks. Rent's not even over. Yeah, exactly so that's the exciting part, so it's you know we've packaged this business. We've package. He needed a quick cash inflex, so we did that now. We building the business we building the systems, we taking it to that next level, and then the next is moss to mind. which is you know for people who already for that fantastic? So it's interesting just to see where people are at different stages and we've made sure that we've got something that can cater that can move like I. Want People. If you know starting off, small inmates need more leads more clients. Coming at this level, let's do that. We can help you gold and build, and both gets fun Yup absolutely I I love I love doing podcasts like this with market is like yourself. For a couple of reasons, first of all you get conical free coaching session, which is kind of fun. I don't implemented everything. Everyone says anyway, so, but all we. Need to fix that, but I'm GONNA check on you. Hook now do it properly. The thing that I like the most about it as well as I really appreciate you being so giving up, said that a couple of times and the reason I say that is because I'm saying, thank you on behalf of the audience because I got a lot of feedback for this show and people just really love love what happens on the show and people always really giving one of the things that I love the most about it is that you have a an a mentality and a view of the world, which is all abundance and. particularly when you talk about of told I've spoken with facebook marketing advertising. Ause Google is Lincoln paper. Watch self as well before and I'm always I. Always leave these conversations and leave these podcasts just thinking. So much opportunity in the world if people realize that if you just go communication pace, and you got your sales pace. Rot is literally an unlimited number of lanes, opportunities and Ryan. Mike Up is just such a beautiful description of that just the abundance methodology undented mentally of that. Oh! Man. Yeah thanks, man, appreciate it and you know there's there's like a lot of these principles very simple. Okay, and they're easy, and here's the thing with easy things. Easy things are also easy. They're easy to do, but they're also easy not to do. And that's why most people never actually go and do these things. Right because a couple of changes and we see it all the time I get people coming in, and sometimes you get on webinars and we'll have like fifty people sign up. And then they come in and that. They're afraid. You know and they don't want to implement that. Want to implement what they feel will work for them more. They feel good about instead of just implementing everything. And it's very easy to get cool now I'll take this piece in this piece in this respect. It's a step by step system. and. We've actually got a breakdown of the system on our website where people can watch video and they can see all mine steps. Right. You have to do with you work with meal. Not You have to do every single one of those steps. Right if you want success like it's that simple. So, we're not teaching staff. I mean yes, we've obviously got our in flavor, but a lot of the things that we teach them and these are not new. It's just how it's applied. Yep, absolutely I always say that there's no such thing as an original idea. Yeah I have these really good all the time, but they're not original. Of, exactly combination of all the things that you've learned over a period of time I don't want to own a move off this topic now and income to a couple of really hard hitting podcasting questions. Choose my clock. That's in front of me right now that I that I see and it's been really spent an hour with you here and get to know you a little bit and have fun and beautiful off as well if I may eight months ago. How would you have been what's changed in the last year and a half for you other than the stupid pandemic and the collapse of the world's economy and all that stuff? What's changed in your world? Well! The pandemics actually been really good for me. A business has exploded. Says been really get. It but in las eighteen months we had a lot more uncertainty. We were kind of transitioning from before we all in on. Lincoln I mean there's another all in story. We actually started in incident marketing business as a infusion soft certified partner. Helping. People automate the businesses because as I get it, I can have a system that did what I had sixty people doing I'm in the right. and. They don't give me bullshit excuses lose their phones and not check to work or get sick or pregnant so like I'm in. A fraction of the price, let's do it yeah. And so eighteen months ago, we were in the transition phase, and we'd created this rainmakers system, and we were selling at four thousand dollars. We were selling previous programmes for like seven, thousand, seven, thousand five hundred dollars. And I was nervous. As nervous I thought like. Is this going to work? You know we've we literally taking things in selling it at a seventh of the price. We've got a sell literally seven times more to get to the same amount. And it was a scary place to be. That we went all in, and we found a way to actually combine the two, and not necessarily using infusion soft that combine the way of thinking in the way of strategizing. To create something amazing, so yet was a scary time I wasn't making the money that I had that. We all now. I didn't have the team. I was kind of. A, lot more. A lot more. Fearful, not the word but and certain Yup. Yup, so on the other side of that coin, you've got good things going on, you said the pandemics been good for business, because people want to connect more online and all those sorts of things. What's on the horizon the next twelve months? Well I'll go through the next six months. Is You know I want to get business to place where it's doing three hundred thousand dollars a month and it's doing without me. Okay, the US, right? And it's doing it with me and you know we're. We're not too far off of the mock, but it still requires. Is You know we're about halfway there at the moment, but it's still reclined too much of me into my business partner. Right And it's been good because. It just shows that I can sell and build a business and everything at the same time. I WANNA I've got different focuses, so you know I'm putting a lot of my focus on to investing? And, obviously, what's really good for me? Living in South Africa earning dollars. Man It's amazing. Clean up there. 'cause I've traveled to Sydney Australia acquired lots as Wallin. The cost of living is just so much higher Where you guys got for lunch and it can cost you like fifty dollars i. that's a lot of money for us. Off To lunch. He'll the diapers sixty goals. Rights, you got you have a stake in a steak is like fifty six fifty sixty dollars, exactly a steak for us at a top in restaurant. You'RE GONNA pay fifteen dollars fifteen to twenty dollars while big difference. and. Dry So. Cost of living is less than you know like I look at in. Hossam staying in nod I can strata you paying full five thousand dollars a month for it well. I'll pay two thousand. Be Difference huge difference. Yeah, same thing because I've been to some of them. It's houses there. And so for me, the big thing is an. Investing and we're focusing a lot on. We also WANNA get into acquiring businesses and growing the portrayal. NAS sounds exciting. You excited you. The future and the prospects. Super excited, and then we've also got on the clouds moving country so yes. It's an interesting time with the mood. We're looking at Panama. Actually Of all places, South America. South America. Right, yeah, I'll bet she had some similar. You! Definitely definitely, you know there's some business opportunities that we've got. And also how businesses structured and tax implications and racism really really good good positives about it. isn't Panama attacks I even. Yeah. It is you get? Really good, it's one of those countries that attracts business to it because of those who taxation laws and stuff at the HAB is in Singapore. Man? All right, yeah. And it's beautiful and I love fishing and fishing is incredible. Is really my gosh cost of living's nothing. The tropics where the weather's warm. Online businesses be amazing, very nostradamus. Way bumping up against an hour here in the podcast I can't let you leave the Golan show without putting in the podcast `as hotseat couple of. Questions Bit of fun before we wrap up it more of a gets. No, you actually The first one is a really love to. Aussies bushings off to travel as well. You said you've been to a bunch of countries forty plus countries. Where's your favorite Holiday Destination Assuming Panama? Well I've never been they actually, so you know. I looked at it. I've done all the research never been there I'm waiting I was GONNA. Go before this whole thing hits, it'll stop. So we're GONNA. See what? You know that's a tough question for me to onset because we've been to such amazing places, and I feel like every place has got its own special thing. You know one of my favorite places Mozambique. I Love Mozambique and on our doorstep. It's couple hours drive. It's stunning. It's going to size me. Yeah exactly exactly and I've been all over Mozambique. I've been like way up. North have been inland all the way down south of traveled there. Bunch of times and. It's just incredible because you go inland and you've got. You've got wild game. You know I do a lot of tiger efficient as while Google. That is if you haven't seen before. No, and it's always. Got These massive teeth, and they like you know rate and a ridden in orange engine, black and white stripes this stunning. Off and when you go inland in Tiger fishing, they're always in like the wild places. So you know what you're on this box. Rights fishing photography fish as crocodiles hippos. The water is elephants on the riverbank. You're in the wild amazing. Guy So that always blows my mind so those kind of things. Must Be. Love. A? Yeah, what's a skill that you've not yet mastered? Cheese. I started playing guitar while ago and I was like this is. As odd mets! I'M NOT GONNA I'm not even GonNa take that up as well. Go on or I lost one for the gossip hotseat. What's the best piece of business? Advice that you've ever received? Base, piece of business advice, or there's been a couple of good ones. I would say it was more personal advice. That's affected my businesses wall. and. It came from a camera guy who he's been incredibly successful in business. He's taken full companies up to the billion dollar mark. And any said Look said to me, you know. Days actually gave me this advice when I got really sick. couple of years ago is diagnosed with Crohn's disease, I went from eighty two kilograms down to fifty nine in the space of two months ago and yeah, it was nuts and I was doing some work some clients at the time, and he kind of just look as his. The what I did. Is that you know I've haven't exactly growing. These companies been some things that I've done to get to where I've got. And the number one thing that has saved me is to. Forgive. Forgiveness, exercise way forgiven myself for everything. You have forgiven everyone for everything that they've done to me. Oh intentions or whatever it is. And then also forgiven myself. What I did was every single night before going to bed I just did that exercise. Forgive everyone for everything. Sometimes it takes five minutes. Sometimes it takes hours. I was going to. Annoy the hell out of me. Rod Yeah. Yeah. It depends on what comes up, and then you forgive yourself, you know sometimes it takes five minutes. Sometimes it hours depends. WHAT COMES UP? And that exercise really was interesting because it allowed me to open up space for new things. And you ideas and you energy moving forward so I'd say that's the best advice that I've got. Stuck with me at I've implemented the most for sure. For us. Well Matt, if people wanted to connect with you and learn more about your business. What's the best way to do that on machining? It's Lincoln. You got. It's absolutely linked in. So look for Mac clock and you've heard my pick a blind like a million times. It just look for that right. Not Africa Mendham. When you connect with me. I would not have a bit of an Oscar right when you connect with me, send me a message. Tell me where you heard. If you wrote Bruce Show I, can't because I'm gonNA let him nominee. Give him some feedback as well. That's a good way to connect with me, but if you WANNA. Learn more about what we do in how we do. Go to my website. WWW dot the virtual edge dot com. There is a video that will walk you through the rainmaker system you know the the the position connected scale process, but also on day there is a free training that you can get. It's a twenty minute profile makeover, which will have some of the stuff that we've actually gone through today. Now the beautiful part is that once you download that off the woods. There's going to be training on it. Okay, there's about a forty seven minute training. Know Salo anything that my goal is not to get you to buy me immediately. I want you to get to know me I. Obviously, YOU'RE GONNA. Hear that Sharon on the thing, but learn more about the system and how we think, and if you like which and. Let's have a chat. Beautiful fantastic, and if you're listening to this podcast, just take a little peek at your phone and you can see all of the links to Matt's website into he's Linton right this, you're gonNA have to go poking around in Google form, and if you're watching this on Youtube, scroll on down there right there in the show notes as well before I wrapped the show up and let you go might have you got I parting shot of the wisdom forest I might. So and so this to actually that kind of work together. One. I learned from Jim Ryan. Is that life doesn't give us what we want. Life gives us what we pay what we deserve. Right and what we deserve is what we prepare for okay and another one that came in was from break gleason, who is a former navy seal? Any saved when faced with times of crisis, we rarely rise to the occasion, but we sink level of preparedness and perseverance so the loss of wisdom would be constantly work on yourself. Constantly grow constantly be prepaid and raised Akbar. Okay focused on those leading indicators and not so much on the results. Because waiting times hit, and I've seen in this pandemic. Some people have flourished because they've been prepared. And Persevere And some people have just fallen off completely. The horse I was so surprised how many businesses were like on the edge and may just felt. That's my little bit of wisdom. Beautiful advice might thank you so much for being so giving and sharing. Thank you so much for coming on the goal in podcast. We look forward to speaking with you again soon. It's five now. Absolutely. Thanks for having me. Well. They have it folks. If you want to connect with Matt, just take a little picky, a phone and all of the links to his website and social is a right there, and if you're watching us on Youtube, the scroll on down in all of these details are right there in the show as well now. If you've got a message, some feedback for the show, you can reach out via the goal in socials. We can send me an email at any time. Just visit goal in Dot Com. Are you to find out more well that wraps it up for the show is so whatever it is. You're doing whatever you're working on. Get busy. GET TO IT! Go all in. Most, oh Things everyday. Tandem cab. Shafiq? Things you. Don't. Talk. then. Giant Dragon Cancer. We have those mammo. Awards. A. Cab! Finally! Figure out. Even do. This again. Yeah. Man Now, you're. Things! Don! First.

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Herd Mentality

The Financial Guys

1:00:45 hr | 8 months ago

Herd Mentality

"Investment Advisory Services offered to in a Walkman had been in black that's a management LLC appropriate services LLC not in Philly Solutions Orphanage guys LLC. You're listening to the financial guys or twenty three trillion dollars in debt. Honey we don't have an extra surplus of money. Newsflash guys stop attacking businesses because when all the bits are on. Nobody's GonNa pay your salary anymore. You get that. Fifth goal is to create a loser mentality when you're winning. I'm going to build up a big beautiful wall with a big beautiful door. We'll guess what we have a big beautiful door all right. Here's Glenn wiggling Mike Lomas Right. Welcome back mccombs gun. Legal financial guys podcast in witty weekly now so Place where money's politics a lot like our format with the radio show have a ton of fun with this and like us on Youtube right at the the expression dealer to in the stock. Market's been doing pretty well but there certainly has been two parallel universes. You see the style Margaret doing well and you sent me an article earlier this morning about ten numbers that show the. Us has fallen fallen into a horrifying economic depression which it will by. The numbers were absolutely in a depression. I guess the key is this thing Will it turn into a full blown depression or will we actually go back to some kind of a normal at some point? I get a little nervous because every single day I continue to see nobody with a set of stones and what I mean that is at. What point does somebody say okay? We are going to have football and it's okay for people. Go come back into the stadium in August. I'm so sick and tired canceling stuff. Three months out. We know the numbers are going in the right direction. We know by the way that opening up things is actually having a positive. Net effect not a negative effect. I don't understand why nobody if I if I if I was in control the NFL. Right now I would say that we will absolutely be there. Unday one will absolutely fans in the stands. If you feel at that point your immune system is compromised. Please don't come enjoy it from home but if you don't we'd welcome you to be there we're starting for for those folks that say you know you guys value money over life as all these universities now are realizing that. Oh kids are not re enrolling. They're all announcing now that they're gonNA open it a fall. Why because money's important I mean I hate to say it but economics and money is important right. We talked about last week to UN based on a contraction after expecting is literally forecasting tens of millions of deaths. Now I think he'll be far off for hopefully but let's say we have one tenth of what they expect. Five million deaths right due to starvation or people being pushed into poverty. There's you can't just simply look at Cova in a vacuum or a box of you've been saying there's other impacts that you have to factor in that. Nobody seems to factor in. We have caused ourselves a great depression again. Now we'll probably come out of this a lot quicker because hopefully will have the right politicians in place. That won't prolong it. The Great Depression was prolonged. Very simply. Because we pass something called the smoot Hawley tariffs the smoot-hawley tariffs was a protectionist. Move to basically put crushing tariffs on any import it through the rest of the world into a depression and because of the really what? They're what the little to try and do now piling on of massive social programs to change their image of America Social Security Medicare all these different safety net programs that were put in place should trillion dollar Wishlist of social programs. Well they're not going bankrupt right him. All these programs are going bankrupt now is not. You can't say well social security. What is success right? Guess what a success out of money in eight ten years. That's a great success right. The thing that frustrates me like is that like I pulled up our twitter feed this morning just to click on the know. What was kind of trending? Here's the first thing that comes up. Okay Cove nineteen medical experts. Warn the virus may be a constant threat for some time. Guess were these medical experts. Were from Mike. What the World Health Organization right to Central Health Organization by the way that trump basically wrote a letter to yesterday saying And the bye-bye we're done. Yeah which is why. Why are we even considering that? Don't give them another penny. We know they're useless now. They're Bill Gates. Could Fund wants. Yeah there's not a lot of the United States tax should not be giving them one penny not one not it look like there is corrupt as a top of the FBI. These guys don't have any idea what's going on right to Dr David Nabarro Coups Special Envoy warned that Cova nineteen maybe a constant threat as research into a potential vaccine continues. I'm sure it will be a constant threat but so is the flu right. Exactly right did a lot of things you know. These folks had no idea. Yeah Smoking's a constant threat right. We lose six hundred thousand cancers the constant threat right. There's all kinds of factors that come at us. Yeah no idea. They're talking about the fall to your point. Mike it's months away. Let's go back a couple of months just for a second here and listened to the our own expert in this country as to what he was saying about the the virus of fired weeks ago by the way months ago he should have been fighting first of all. I should never be there to begin to anybody who has been in government now or served for five. Administrations is a deep state long-term entrenched bureaucrats. That's got all kinds of conflicts of interests would have come from frontline from front line. Doctors not academic on the frontline single day. I was talking to nurses yesterday and they said Mike Look. It was a bad virus but they said to me one of the things I don't understand. Is that people are worried about their children. I said exactly. That's what I can't figure out. She said you know Happened to be the wife and husband both of them nurses and she said I just can't figure out there's there's we don't have any destiny county of children dying and you know for these parents to be worried about their children. I said well. That's the mainstream media right. That's the fear the constant. You BETTER BE WORRIED. You better be worried and of course parents. Being good parents are scared of their children. They're scared for children right. They want to protect their children. That's what we do but talk about a bunch of crap when it comes to the media not really giving the message out there that hey look it you know. This is a tough virus. You know if you've got Compromised immune system. You GotTa be careful what your children are going to be okay. They didn't say it was like no it was there was run and grab your children. You Bury yourself in your house because this is common after. Yup I think those telling the truth that there's zero percent chance at your children's going to die from this what the differences might get. I one Florida Florida never closed. Any of the daycares never right. They've been opened this entire time right. You haven't heard about school should have been opened. The school should have been open to you. Haven't heard about massive you know. A. Kids getting sick. In fact you haven't heard about tons of kids getting or anybody getting sick and as huge upticks Georgia South Carolina Florida Florida's moving out of phase to phase one successful phase to start at Georgia faced to starting most the country face. Us absolute lies plus well. The media hates see. Oh my God look at what Florida's doing. Oh Oh oh looks like now. They're wrong again. The thing is our content consistently wrong. They pair at the same narrative over and over and over again and again. You Look at New York and I'll play some clips him if we can today Looking at COAMO. Oh you know who? Who's I think it was? Brian Kilmeade this week. Or maybe it was Ben Shapiro. Listen TO PODCASTS. Or radio shows on on. Wfan Florida station. And I think I think it was. Brian Kilmeade I think he he was. He was talking about airline pilots nailed. It goes listen to Dr a Captain Sully Sullivan Right. He gets now. He's about to land the plane on the Hudson. Pilots are cooler than cool right and they still. You know you go through turbulence you but we all been on. Planes rights turnaround should always people nervous. The pilot comes on and says we'RE GONNA BE OKAY folks. We'RE GONNA go down a little bit smoother era here. We're going to find the Hudson. No worries no brace for impact. He says right brakes members for back with like. It's no big deal right. But he's it's confidence now. Imagine if it came as an. We're GONNA the Hudson people be jumping out the windows. That's basically what Kobo did in New York. We don't have enough ventilators this like we're all GonNa die. Basically what Komo did and what? A lot of liberal leaders did. They instilled not confidence but fear. Komo's out there spreading fear going. It's not the time to be fearful. He's he honest to God. He's trying to break a record or a Middle East amount of words per minute. We're not going to open your for months. So be prepared to play this clip to some of the expert Just a couple months ago to hear what he was saying about this This fire is not a lot of things have changed right but I just want to illustrate the point that Dr Fouled she Dr Burks Dr Seuss. They all know about the same about this virus. Which ZIPPO ZIPPO right? They're learning but I don't fault them for making mistakes but all of a sudden masks. Don't matter but now masks everybody has to wear with the thing I do fault for not changing with it and not sending more of a positive message that here's the real story by the way right. Yeah that story has gone from. Here's the real story to you know to. You should be scared to death and put a mask on. We're months ago. You shouldn't have. And now we know the numbers are actually way better than they told us should be the opposite Pennsylvania. This morning actually announced that they believe that at least one county has way over inflated to the tune of potentially eighty percent of the amount of Cova cases simply for federal funds. And so now you're starting to bust all this fraud. Trust me we will see. Mark this podcast. We will see forty to fifty if not further that the entire country is at least forty to fifty percent inflating their numbers and what it doesn't mean people didn't have called that but they didn't die of call. They had ten things wrong with them. Dying of lung cancer and they marked Colon right. My guess is the real desa probably really truly from Cova. It's a very small percentage of the overall does well. I talked to somebody. Actually that I bumped into him at Actually my hairdresser and and they were just talking about there from New York City and they said you know I. I'd I know somebody who died. I said Oh my God what happened with the old. Nali were thirty eight years old. So well how what happened. They had a heart attack. I said okay. What did they have a heart attack? But they also had covert or the covert caused a heart attack. Cold would caused a heart attack. I'm thinking to myself. How do they know that because the reality of it is you know people have heart attack all the time I went to high school with somebody very sadly who I want to say ten years ago? So yeah about the same. As thirty six. He had a heart attack and he dropped dead and at home. You know. He's a sad tragic but it happens stress stress right sometimes. It's just a defect in your whatever but anyway let me play this clip. Because this is this is Dr Foul. She back in early March talking about if I can actually my phone open talking about The wearing a mask because I think this is important for people to hear because of course I had the I could not find this anywhere on Youtube by the way because they took it off so I had to go to Lilly. Who's the left-wing Scared Agenda Lilly founded on a blog that was linked from a liberal page? And that was because of course they didn't remove that yet so that you missed that piece but here it is right now in the United States should not be walking around. We all ask your sure of it because people are listening really closely to this right now. People should not be walk. There's no reason to be walking around with when you're in the middle of an outbreak wearing a mask might make people feel a little bit better and it might even block a droplet but it's not providing the perfect protection that people think that it is an often. There are unintended consequences. People keep fiddling with the mask and they keep touching their face and can you get some smuts sort of staying inside there of course but when you think masks you should think of healthcare providers needing them and people who are. Ill exactly what happened? That story. What happened on story gone away now. Everybody has to wear match fit the mainstream left-wing media of pushing this thing into everybody's GonNa die. It's in everybody's GonNa die. You better mask yourself would joke at the end of this broadcast. If you're listening on a podcast you're laying on your tunes or spotify whatever Wolf. I'll play the clip just to give you an idea of the power propaganda and just the amazing part of the mind. This is an old. Tv show that prudential turned into a commercial. And it's called the herd mentality right. I'm not talking herd immunity on talking to herd mentality. If everybody said we need to jump off a cliff right now that will save us from from from this virus people be lining up at the cliff's edge. They really would. It's it's you can tell you now we're everybody. We need to wear foil hats because tin foil seems to repel the virus. You'd see everybody out there. Eighty percent of America has what happened to the critical thinking aspects especially in medicine by the way as soon as I heard that they're downplaying certain. Vote you know or downplaying hydrochloric win or whatever. It's called a hydroxy. Clint whatever it is you know. They're downplaying certain things. I've never heard that a medicine before. Listen was always It was more. It's an art it really. There's different treatments and doctors collaborate and compare studies for me right. Yeah that's the case. With lots of different things right again that heart attacks in miraculously they saved them and somebody else has heart attack and they can't you know it's just the way it Rolls Yup. It's it's a science it really is. Let me play This clip is priceless. I Dunno if you want to do a little combo but absolutely this is again. If you're listening probably in New York but for those of you In other states like Florida. You don't see get to see this type of ridiculousness but this is the type of leadership that they say Lawrence seventy five percent approval rating. Right now so. This is absolutely hysterical. You get better approval ratings if you have more sick people and you send sick. People who you know have Cova nineteen from hospitals to nurses the entire nursing home in fact that killing literally thousands of people. Apparently that deserves a plus. I don't know yeah well again. The power of the propaganda right. We talked about this last week. The power of the media. I mean he first of all anybody with with the brain in her head realizes that Coamo has really really messed us up. Big Time Right. Lots of mistakes reporting by the way the New York Post. That's that's about it and Dave McKinley. That's about McKinley. Says he's the only reporter Western that actually reports news actually goes out and asks questions like hey did you think about this. What about the Nursing Homes Governor Coma? What about the site and finally clean the subway just two weeks ago because I would have thought that would have been the first thing you've done right It's just amazing. So you you look at the states in this country. That didn't open didn't close at all. We had about nine states. I believe that never even closed anything and everybody in the on the left was like Oh God it's possible it's going to cause everyone else. There's not really been any measurable impact. The difference right. You said that by the way yes that would happen called that what happened called no different so we destroyed our economy. There's a pretty clear path that winning and getting people out is way way way better for your health. They're locking yourself in. How do we know the states that did that ended up with worse? Numbers Cuomo himself said. I'm surprised that people coming in sixty seventy percent of the people coming hospital. Listen to me in locked down in their house less than two percent Going into the hospital didn't listen to me. They went out and had fun and did what they did wrote render. How could this be okay? Well my eight year old could figure out all right. I guess getting out moving around getting your immune system rolling and getting outside is actually healthier for you than locking yourself into a house. I don't know you have all these eight year old. Could figure that out. Oh yeah the way locking the gyms down and there was some New Jersey police officers by the way. I don't know if saw it went into a gym and said hey you know just you know you're in violation of whatever but have a great day good for you good for you. That's the right way officer. Should be absolutely God. Bless you folks that I'm hearing other stories. Police officers you know arresting soccer moms for trying to open up salons or ripping people off beaches by the hair. That's not your job up for. Did you hear Blasios? You're supposed to be doing? Did you see the BLASIOS conference yesterday? No because we're open up the Beach Memorial Day but if you go in the water if you even think about stepping in the water will get a drag you out and put you at what for how fascinated that well first of all the New York City like fifty five degrees at this point. It's MIT lament in the water. Well wouldn't you want people? I don't know man I think. What does that do well? I think he was the he was saying. There's no there's no lifeguards there to protect you. If you go in the water you should never go into water without lifeguards. Ever ever ever to have somebody. Who is Lord Office? I I make a point to always try to swim in the ocean. What's seriously never once. Have I seen a lifeguard on our beach? What's the temperature? Though of the of the waters off in New York City is in all seriousness. Can't be right fifty sixty. Who's going in the water in New York City in the middleman? It's sixty degrees outside. Are you crazy going in the water? Water what suit and influence on a fifty four degrees. Screw you mean if I wanna floating swimming and fifty degree water. I I'm GONNA screw you. That's my that's my option. Right yes absolutely nuts. Yes my legs. Freeze cares his. Tell me what while. But that's liberals the Blasio wants to tell you everything right again by the way if you haven't figured this out yet oh my state is so screwed and there are so many awesome people out there that continue to fight and fight and fight. I'm not sure I'm GONNA say this. We've been doing this for twenty years and we've been part of that fight twenty something years yeah. I. It's over the flights over. I mean he has tweet. Lost to`real Andrew Cuomo. He's going to do whatever the hell he wants to do. He put almost three hundred new laws into effect on the list. Let me tell you folks. It is all ver- over unless there's a complete bankruptcy and the federal government can come in and say you know what the only way we're going to let you and help you is if there's a hard solid control board and we're GONNA start cutting all kinds of stuff. I just don't see how the state survive in especially areas like western New York and by the way there will be still be Paul. You know little plots of success. That's what happens with social the gap between the rich and the poor in New York. State will get bigger. They'll will be more people who are more successful. If you have three pizzerias and one of moved down to south Florida they're still to nip and one of those are going to dominate. So there's going to be still be opportunities to make money however the bigger group the bigger pitchers going to get uglier and uglier and uglier get ready for the San Francisco. People trapping in the streets. Shortly exactly what we say. You're going to have our homes and you'll have fifty thousand dollar homes. We said that to you. Well we've been saying it for probably like three to four years now least at New York state is on its way to looking like California. It's accelerating now accelerate the response right at the response. Ben Look we need to if Andrew was out talking about getting businesses. Open a pro growth strategy. It's time to cut the size of government. You know let's we. This may be an opportunity to right size government. You'd have way more confidence in and more people sticking around. Never seen so many folks we manage money for thousands of people never seen so many people say I'm leaving. I'm going to Tennessee. I'm going to Texas and I'm going to Florida. Well let's just put this into perspective for people we probably have about three to four thousand households that we work with right. I have met with about fifty to sixty clients in the last two to three weeks and I would say that probably about a quarter to a third of them are seriously looking. They're not even just considering now. They've actually hired real estate agents there. They're making travel plans as soon as they can travel and they're planning on going to. Tennessee and looking around at different places now is to put those numbers together for twenty percent just twenty percent of three thousand six hundred families leaving the area. That's just us. That's our little sampling. Right you talk about million people in western New York right now. Here's the thing out of those million people. Sadly a good chunk of them are under the poverty line in the city of Buffalo. Roughly thirty percent of the city of Buffalo is below the poverty. Line do you think they can very easily just pull up? Stakes moved to Tennessee. They're not leave their stock other now. They're stuck they're stuck with the crappy schools. You're stuck with the you can't go outside. They're stuck with the the thing that really makes me the phones frustrated. Mike is that you've got covers like the Santa's you've got governors like Abbott People. That actually understand the business owners and their needs. You know you've got the president. Obviously who is a business owner understand business owners? They're all advocating saying. Look you know. Obviously we gotta do the best. We can to stay safe. We don't WANNA put anybody at risk but at the same time we also understand that these are people's lives work. They have to get back to work. They have to pay their bills. People rely upon those small business owners for their jobs as well. We can't pay for this is in the overdose those as well but the report with the Democrat leaders are like if you open. They're threatening people right. I'm going to take away your occupancy permit you're never gonNa work again my God. We had a veteran on the Saturday. Right this past Saturday. We had Ronnie from A. I can't think of the name of the subject unleash unleash from unleash right. So opens his business yesterday immediately. Harassed by this to towns. Back to the police officer. We're GONNA pull your permit threatening right officer just about this. We see people in your Jim. We're GONNA come in and rescue. Shame team on you. Fourteen year veteran and Mel tour's in Afghanistan and Iraq. And this is how. We're going to treat a veteran but even with despite the veteran he's a business owner he's employing people right. We're employing people dozens of people of we. Those of you say by the way I love these liberals like huge it s. We get liberal. Love note folks. So they're just wonderful. Righty just pick up and go somewhere else. Okay we'll tell that to our employees that rely upon us to pay their mortgage two years worth of heart and soul. We've put into our business release. You realize that for those folks. Roya to somebody who said This is ridiculous. All these people bitching about their businesses and stuff. Yes sit around and have a beer and wait until it's over right. Yeah clearly no no brain. His hat as to what actually goes into building a business how to maintain a business yeah. It'd be nice to sit on the couch and grab a beer. The mortgage is due happy. Jack that the axes are right. That was probably from the fun loving twenty four year old who loves youtube and playing video games and hang out all day with net flicks. I mean seriously coming or is coming from the person who works for the town works for the state still still getting a paycheck. Haven't skipped a beat. So yeah would it be wonderful if we could all. Just sit home and receive a paycheck. Everyone Nancy Pelosi said I. Wouldn't it be great? They health insurance to artists could just paint then. And Not really be worried about those pesky things like jobs right. It'd be wonderful if we could all just sit at home and pay our bills right. I mean that would be a wonderful fantasy. Land that does not actually initial firm. Just run itself. Yeah just grey. All of our employees could stay home. But Yeah we could still pay them and yeah that'd be great right it'd be a wonderful wonderful Utopia. Yeah Wonderful Utopia. This is This press conference with though Komo's talking about. He finally put a dashboard up. So what's happened to western New York for those of you? That from western New York is not only are they playing games with the numbers now. They're just hiding the numbers right. So what we find out this week that you know. They stopped reporting the numbers too because people were putting them up online. And Oh they're being taken out of context. How do you take number of hospital? Beds occupancy out of context right. That's like saying we'll tell you how you make it worse than it really is by hiding the numbers who's taking it out of conflict. Yeah left wing exactly all these elected officials right. I gotTA stop calling him leaders because it's hard to take fish. It's hard to take raw data though context this raw data right raw. Data is raw. Data is what they want. Is THEY WANT TO BE? We told you're supposed to look at the science science to your point Mike. They want to manipulate the data before we see the data so governor call with this week announces that. We're GONNA put a dashboard together. Everybody in the first thing you should do in the morning is look at the dashboard but listen to his disappointment. This is the most hilarious clip. This I I watched this as somebody in the office. The Florida office sought and he said is this real. Was that an essay on Saturday night. Live like no. That's an actual real press conference. That's the real governor unbelievable. They play a little clip. Because this is unbelievable really is you can track that data and know exactly where you are. It's like taking your blood pressure every getting your cholesterol count every morning. You can know exactly where you are every morning and not just for the elected officials. Not just for government. This is all about what people do. This is about what citizens do and what the elected officials are trying to do. What I'm trying to do is to inform the citizens so they can better protect themselves. Yes transparency as they should right. I thought we weren't allowed to make cumulus parents way and hold for one. Second Decision Andrew. I want to make my own decision and informed one. I want to open up my business again. I'm not that he's got to be very decision right can I? Can I think for myself I? I'd like to open my own business and and by the way and you've pointed this out. Multiple Times on businesses will think through this right so look at on the business and I understand that people want to social distance. I will do that you know you don't need. We don't want our office. People Getting Sega Cram into my and my business. Nobody's nobody shows I'm GONNA I'M GONNA change my plan real fast right. I'm going to say look at. This is not working. People feel uncomfortable. I need to sell stuff. We'll put the little tape on the line. We'll get everybody six feet apart right. They'll figure it out our employees just like our clients are like our family right to do everything we can to keep our family safe right whether I want to keep my kids safe. I'M GONNA keep my spouse safe. I WANNA keep my parents safe right. We WANNA keep everybody safe right but it's about doing things responsibly and realizing again that unfortunately if we could all in our basement forever. That would be great. But we can't just not economic reality. I hate to say it. But the government can't just print money forever and ever and ever and ever ever with no consequences. It runs out at some point. They can just turn it into firewood like they did in Germany exactly well. That's exactly what happens to thing. That's a positive only plays his club and let me talk about some of the positive because the demand is still there. I think a lot easier to rekindle supply than it is to rekindle demand. We'll talk about that in a second. Don't only forget that only play. The rest of this clip may have their cup of coffee and they go online to find out where they're county is would they do calibrate their behavior that way. Kella status developed a very elaborate dashboard of relevant local information. They told me they were designing a dashboard. I got very excited about it I sent them a picture of what I think is one of the really connick Dash Board. You should be watching this if you're listening to this go to Youtube and watch financial bear sport. I said they should consider that design and they were doing a state dashboard. They came back with this design in New York State Dashboard. How it in any way mirrors dashboard from nineteen sixty seven. Corvette I have no idea but How can government be expected to have the same artistic design had fifty years ago? So here's the state board consign and curves and art. That was used in it. But it has all the information you artistic. It's not artistic. Has All the information for all the region statewide so every region can compare themselves where other regions in this state right now by the criteria that we have just hilarious. You could see. It's got curves warning if I'm a I'm supposed to go up in the morning. Look at this dashboard. And if there's five more cases in my region last night what do I do like I take a different way to work? I guess that's right. Show the thing is. He's so disappointed. The poor marketing person that put the dashboard together. Slide show is probably like I did my best government. They're not not really artistic. You know. We can't expect the artistic nice lines and curves it's all square and like symmetrical but it's actually looks like a functional more of if. I was designing a dashboard for people to get information be honestly I would have designed it like the person designed it not like the dashboard. At Sixty seventy seven corvette. The disappointment in his voice not was I was hoping for A. I'm just told this point. There's a spike in numbers which I never got hoping for is the they were all planning for this big devastating. We've heard governor to this Nelson. I was told they need four hundred. Sixty five thousand beds. We use two thousand. It's time to open up hospital capacity ten percent right that that didn't come in the way we thought. I think we can all agree. Democrats and Republicans. We didn't know where the data was going to go. We know where the data is now. It's time to open up the football games. It's time to go back to baseball games. And if you feel in any way shape or form your immune system is compromised. You should stay at home. And I heard this guy seventy four year old New Yorker and there was some. Apparently some restaurants just opened in some younger folks. Were hanging out having drinks in New York City and the seventy four year old said. They're GONNA kill us. Well why how right how they break into your going down there to drink with them right are you. Because my understanding is Mr Seventy four year old. You are planning on staying in your house right and and so if you're GonNa stay in your house and that is effective right. That's what you're telling us that everybody should stay in her house because that is a solution although the numbers don't support that then you should stay in your house for the next few weeks but those young people who feel like their immune system is not compromised should get out there and should get going and get economic activity rolling again exactly. We don't have millions of suicides. Millions of people globally starving. Did you hear this week? yesterday's press conference where President trump just just makes the media exploded. He goes. Yeah I'm taking hydrochloric right now. What did you hear that or not? Did you guys The is priceless. It's so good. He just like they just. They stopped like what are you serious like it was finally they can find. There might have to take me a minute but I love it because he just drives him insane. We're and I find that Clark does that. Maybe we can play another clip cuomo before we had out here it's I gotta find it now. Central California talented. You bring that declares itself Sanctuary City for business logo. That's good though. That's what you need. Well now some of these governors are basically going after the mayors and Accounting Common County. Oh the the town supervisor saying you know if you open against our we're GONNA cut off your your aid. I think president trump will be the same thing. We're GONNA cut off your eight. I mean I think he should just basically cut office on point right. I mean just crazy that clip ahead of trump pulled up here and everything unfortunately in the state of New York people are the mainstream media and the governor. Has Everybody's so scared that these business owners are are put in such a hard place right? I mean you know. People are literally threatening. Lives if you open your business Because they're so scared right so there's torn right. Oh my God I'm GonNa lose my business. I need to open this up but I don't want people smashing my windows in because I did it right. Well it's a crazy thing is it's like you know. How dare you open Your Business? You should rotten hell gonNA come you know get getting your face and you know we throw a brick through your window or whatever I mean really is crazy. What some of these folks are your opening up your bicycle store windows but on the way I'm GonNa stop at Walmart I and grab some There was a video of this woman and I'm sure we're going to see these repeated all over the country right the busy bodies right all the busy bodies out there that are look at this look at their altogether look. They're not social distance. You know their video camera. Turning people in those folks are all liberals every single one no doubt about every single one of them because they're all most of the mindset of liberal general. Is You do what I tell you to do what? I'm going to do something different. I used the example of somebody I know who you know is is following everything wearing masks and everything else bought you know. Their kids are still going into lessons. He's still getting his haircut right because well nobody else is getting a haircut so I might as well get my haircut. I see so it's okay for you. Are you special? Are you better than me seriously? I'm asking that question of liberals is it. Somehow you're better than everybody else because we're supposed to follow the rules. But it's just it's so aggravating to be honest with you when I was somebody who She was very very gotta wear masks. Shame on you. If you're not right said your hair looks great. I getting hair done. Well I have somebody come over and do it. Oh Oh well. How did that work so apparently if you go to greatclips you might get Cova but if somebody from a store like that comes over and cut your hair your house? You won't get it. Oh and it's okay for them do it but not for me. I I I get. So that's like the blasio going to the park and going for a walk but we can the going to the Ymca for a two hour work by the way. Don't we all I mean as the mayor you know just like all business owners I mean? Don't you all go to the gym at eight thirty? Spend about two hours there. Take a shower that eventually role in the wrong ten thirty eleven bill does Bill de Blasio does. That's basically his schedule folks. He works about ten to maybe four ish right. Meanwhile he's paying his wife He. We've transferred we as taxpayers have allowed. Bill de Blasio the transfer to his wife a billion with a B. dollars. It's insanely disgusting. And when they talk about a New York well we. Can't we gotTA have? We're going to be cutting we said last week. They're going to be cutting firefighters police officers and teachers. Those are the first things ago the next thing I absolutely absolutely we'll be number surely knows first of all the Blasios Cuomo. They all know that you you guys and girls have not supported them the way. Yeah absolutely will be the first. That's why been here police officers in New Jersey. Welcome Jim and say well. I'm just letting you know you're violating some kind of clause here but have a great day. We'll see later exactly what you should be doing. What's going on in New York City? Mike because the New York City Police Department hates bill de Blasio right to hey. They're listening to him. Why are you listening to this guy? I mean it's unbelievable to me right. I mean it just doesn't make any sense whatsoever. But I'm telling you. The the local media in New York City has brainwashed. Everybody everybody it is spilled off look at the rest of the country. Sorta watch CUOMO. Everybody in New York State is watching Cuomo. He has done nothing but fallas from a leadership as scare people scare people. Scare people stocking ventilators sending people back that are sick in the nursing homes. He's done nothing but fell us but he's done one thing really well and that scare the living daylights out of everybody. Right to your point on the police unions right they. Police unions are the COBOL and the BLASIOS has W- they've lost the support of the plea right but they still got the Teacher's Union in the tank right no matter what so who. I got some great friends that are teachers. Many of you are. Independent thinkers some of the leadership and those teachers unions. Now they're now they're pissed off because they wanna go to virtual schools. Yeah but they'll still this in. They were pissed off about common core. Still Slow at Man and he knows it right so he knows it so he's going to reward teachers with keeping their jobs matter. What police officers though your first the next thing you know this is like a hostage situation. So there's on Saturday and we're we're tied up in the base right now. The next thing is Komo's stars lopping off the proverbial fingers and toes right and that is oh. I can't afford open the parks. Oh I'm sorry campgrounds. No things like I'll give an example In New York I used to hunt a lot too old of trudge the swamp anymore but Tonto swamp for example. It's a state refuge. A state refuge. Nobody is there okay. It's there's no kiosk there's no pulling there's parking lots of course it's maintained right but it's maintained typically by fish and Wildlife Service and things like that things are not going to cut but you watch. They'll start talking about well just Ridge Park. Can't open that even though the Highway Department Mos- laudner. I'm not exactly sure if they have their own grounds crew for. I don't think they do. I think Carl count which is beyond accessible. They won't more than Texas. California combined won't be touched the welfare and the free handouts won't be tucked the Free College for Illegal Immigrants. WoN'T BE TOUCHED. The the free stimulus for an and welfare for the Legal Immigrants. Won't be touched. Don't worry about that that'll be just fine exactly Two more things. You only play this clip from trump. Because the the the media you can just hear like. Oh what did he just say? Really? He's crazy. He's taking what great a lot of good things have. Come out about the hydroxy. A lot of good things have come out and you'd be surprised. At how many people are taking it especially the frontline workers before you catch it. The frontline workers many many are taken. It I happen to be taken it I happened to be taking it Jenkins and hydroxy when right now a couple of weeks ago started taking because I heard a lot of good stories and if it's not good I'll tell you right Ducati to get hurt by it. It's been around for forty years from the lion for Lupus for other things I'd take it. Frontline workers take it a lot of doctors take. Excuse me a lot of doctors take it. I take it extremely small and actually getting the covert virus while the interesting thing is in the way less than the people that have self quarantine themselves. Oh no question. It's amazing. What the of interesting and France they were they were putting Nicotine Patches on because apparently nicotine and smokers did the nicotine for some reason helps to fight the virus off the thing. Is You know. I think it was Fox. News and shame on Fox. What the Hell is the matter with you? People over Fox News seriously. Some some of the was the guy was like. Don't take this will kill you. This will kill you. Listen the president trump. What are you talking about like? It's funny because my k. Flicks mom has been on it forever and he was like. I didn't realize it will kill you if you drink fishbowl cleaner. Yes if you're stupid enough to drink fish bowl cleaner. I'm sorry I call that Natural Selection. I don't mean to be mean I don't mean to be mean but those you know it just look I mean it just is what it is right. We've used this drug for forty years for malaria. I was reading on twitter. The twitter spheres of amazing. It really is it's unfiltered stupidity is what it is. It's people hide behind the Kibo. My God people can type stuff up. That is stupid stuff. Somebody wrote this morning. I read her last night. I had the comment on it. They said well. You know trump irresponsible. He's on a doctor he should. Maybe we're not using hydrochloric would because we're saving it for the real use on the malaria outbreak anytime. Now in our country sticking sticking with the ventilators in New York City and someone taught me about the look. There's pushing is easy to make. And they're plentiful supplies around the globe. Right secondarily we are at zero risk of a malaria outbreak in this country zero. And if we had it we would have no problem obtaining enough chloroquine when this so stupid. They're just I well again. It's absolute stupidity. It really is. You know the another another Another tweet I read. Was You know all these business owners are crying because it's now we're on Latte in? They're crying about anti for not being out there protesting fascism. It's not fashionable. You can still go to the grocery store and this net. It is fascism. However if it's your business that they forced to close. Do you not understand that these same people hated Walmart they. Hey don't big box stores now. They're shutting down Joe's bike store. They're shutting down the MOM and pop stores that they did whatever they could to try to say we need to save these folks. Walmart's going GonNa put them out now. They're crushing absolutely crushing them. Most of the other day a third of a moment of this at least real yeah. It's crazy it's crazy to let the economic landscape folks and I'm going to say this now we've been saying this for decades. You have no idea what's coming and again we'll talk. We've talked about the difference between the stock market and the economy. I can't stress that enough. Oh yeah the stock market and the economy are two different things. Okay there's going to be losers in the stock market. No question that there's going to be a lot more. Losers in the economy of this is going to push months the gap the gal the rich and the poor will get bigger and bigger and bigger and bigger. The top folks will make it out of this bigger. Find those mom and pop stores that go away. You know. There'll be a few folks out there that scoop them up and really make some cash Outta this. Unfortunately the gaps going to get wider. It's GONNA millions leader. It's GONNA be harder. It's way harder we're GONNA push We're GONNA PUSH MILLIONS OF PEOPLE. Mike into the into the poverty level. That's what we're doing we. There are so many millions of more. You're to push millions more the other way and there will be huge success stories out of this right. Yep there will be huge success stories out of this and it'll be the few though failures. Let me let me ask you this. And this is the the other day and this is for our listeners. Out there remember back in the seventies those of you that are old enough to remember back in the seventies there was all kinds of commercials of starving kids around the world right and UNICEF and other charitable organizations the Catholic charities and others were doing the best. They can to do a constant appeal to raise money. You can adopt a child you. You'd pay money every month to help to feed an impoverished child around the world. You don't see many of those commercials anymore. And the reason for that is not because we've radic aided poverty around the world or starvation but we have taken a huge dent out of it absolutely unemployment rates going down to three and four percent here. I'm just talking aloud nations. I've talk in the last forty years though I've talked about fifty years going down economic prosperity. Yes leading throughout the hugeness. That's going to start now. Start contract itself so the UN was talking about just a five percent contraction leading between five to fifty million people in the starvation fifty million. That's probably a close number. I would say five to ten million. We'll probably starve to death. Based on this correction just does this contract recognize and those are Oh. That's not true. Look million storrow crazy and slew million. Starvation pushed in this country. There was so many people that had just gotten themselves into the middle class right. They had done well. Because as you said Mike the Economy was down to three something percent of unemployment. People taking uber jobs think about the opportunities that people had. I watched a great interview this week on. Nbc from one of the Angel Investors. You know people are not being forced to take these jobs. He people act like Oh. These uber drivers are being so people want these jobs. They want to work flexibility. They want to turn it on. Turn it off. They want if you want you become an employee. Be careful what you wish for because now suddenly you have to work their hours. Agai- said listen to people would rather work uber. As opposed to serving somebody Allante at starbucks for eight bucks an hour. That's their choice right. The flexibility more money right. Nobody's forcing them into that. It's just a position to be able to learn some cash but for a lot of go getters. Lots of jobs like that out. There Uber. Lift a GRUB Hav you know all kinds of private companies private even publicly these private companies that are employing people by the hundreds by the thousands right great opportunities. It's allowed a lot of people in this country millions of people to pick themselves up by their bootstraps in and grab their piece of the middle class. Some of those folks are getting into the upper middle class and even in the upper class right Hossam ability that we're working hard. We're pushing the American dream work. Absolutely we're pushing all the exactly. We're pushing all these people now back down under the poverty line right and we're doing it on purpose. That's what kills me about. This whole thing is like well. It's not our fault. We had a virus. It is our fault. It is our fault because we it's it's our fault because we made these decisions to lock things down and I said this last week. I was cool with the first two weeks back in March. We don't know what's going on. Okay fine shut down for two weeks. See what happens then. The extended it to Eastern. I said alright. Easter's probably okay. We can all recover from Easter. It's not as a two three week. Maybe four week. It's not to you know. Most businesses can sustain that right. We talked about restaurants having anywhere between fourteen. Twenty eight days in cash. Okay fine then. They came out with stimulus. Okay that helps out to LAKE THAT AMOUNT OF TIME. Were two and a half to three months at now folks certain places like Massachusetts. They're all down as I was raised. I said from day one. You never shut it. I was not complete. This is the flu absolutely not. I mean I said from Day One. I'm like did these people are acting like there's HIV in the air. It hasn't sure it hasn't had any time sympathetic to it right like there's people that go all you know you're just like you didn't get it. I understand it's tough runs. That have gotten it. Tough but the cure cannot be worse than the than the well. It is the solution yeah. The solution was worse than the virus. No question about it. We are going to be worse than the fluid and we are making it so much worse so so so much worse mark my words we will lose we will lose millions of people millions of because of the reaction we took to this virus. And there's no denying you look at places like Sweden when you look at places like South Dakota when you look at the states nine states or sold in this country. That did nothing. As far as lockdown goes Florida didn't never shut down daycares. You did not see a huge difference. There's no fat Tommy that Oh New York got these people. They were if if the virus was as explosive as they told us than keeping kids in daycare. On this have you would have exploded in the state of Florida would have looked so much worse. These states that kept open would've looked so much worse. So why did New York hit harder? New York got hit harder for a lottery. Number one population density is part of it. Not all of it because you can make the same case of L. A. Bad decisions were a big part of it right. You know. Nursing homes being forced to take ovid positive patients. That's a bad decision. Finally getting around including the subways just a week or two ago. Bad Decision Dash Done Louis. Young people was a bad decision. Clearly honest with you. I'm clearly heaping. People in their house looks like it was a bad decision when Andrew Cuomo says yes I am shocked that seventy percent of the people that are coming in culver positive. Now that need our help. We're the ones that listen to us. It looks like locking. People in their house was actually the worst decision right. Yep when when his numbers say hey look only two percent of the folks coming in hospital or People? That didn't listen to me. They went out and just live their lives and did what they had to do right. That's a bad mistake now. To your point is we didn't know that before. Okay so change it to be honest with us and say look at. That's not working. Open the damn economy. Let people go back to work exactly. I mean now. Look at the data. Make a new decision right and goings interaction. I we see that the other day is absolutely no way recount. He's opening up all the sudden the lawsuits committing overnight. Actually go from seventeen hundred. It looks like we've met the criteria well low behold. Wow Change Literally. No the kids. She didn't change. They did while we have not had the exactly. Sousa lawsuits filed. Here's the thing they know they're gonNA lose the lawsuit right so we don't want to be forced to eat crow and say well we're forced to reopen what they want to be able to say we were right? We did it one two three. There's lawsuits coming in from all over the State. Watch it go one two three four back in because he knows that you're absolutely right humour. Thank you clip. I'm GONNA play this clip but before I do let me just talk about demand versus supply for a second okay. This is really important economic standpoint. You know the good news is that I'm down in Florida. I went out to a restaurant. Sunday night packed which is good packed. Okay Pat twenty-five capacity pack. So don't don't go. We'll restaurant we gotta talk. No no they were following the rules. Doing the right thing to hack. Meaning that there was a pack. There was thirty to forty five minute. Wait so we waited about thirty minutes. And then they were only serving twenty-five percent capacity so normally on a Sunday there wouldn't be a weight but the demand is still there. That's good news. You know I got my haircut everybody. She was packed right. She was busier and busy all day long. She was running fifteen minutes right. So what that tells me is that demand is still there when demand crumbles then. We have a huge problem and may at some point if people don't go back to work right if we if we have bad policy decisions like extending unemployment until twenty twenty four right which is what the Democrats Really WanNa do. Those bad policy decisions ultimately hurt demand in the long term because they make people dependent on the government and the government just gives them enough to get by not enough to actually thrive money running out of other people's money but there's only so long you can extend unemployment exactly twenty five twenty six trillion dollars in debt now but it's easy to reopen supply. All we have to do is turn back on the economy right. The reality of it is this may actually costume inflation here because you still have a lot of demand for goods and services. You're going to have if we stay much longer much closed much longer. We're GONNA have a lot of companies that you point out earlier not going to come back right so you're still going to have demand but you may have applied. I grew up with crazy staple town and it just closed. I'm like Oh my God I so sad i. I don't think has lasted through everything. You know real estate commercial real estate collapses banking collapse. Nineteen eighty recession tack. Rack made it through the financial great depression or great recession. Couldn't withstand the flu but of course we were told well. Shutdown wouldn't withstand couldn't withstand government bureaucracy and and and and and really tyranny is what it is right. I mean I feel bad for that business owner in Michigan. He was literally in tears. Seventy some years old. He's owns a music store he's like. I just can't go on yet watching the Walmart literally across the street from my business de hacked pack. How disheartening that right. You can go into Walmart. But you can't get your haircut do Asinine. It's ridiculous asinine. Is that just so dumb? I don't care Republican Democrat but I'll say Democrats because you're really the man lines that are shutting this thing down right now. Yep Shame on you shame on you. Those job losses are on you those depressions and those are on. You WanNA point it to all these business owners that WANNA open up in you want to say those. Cova deaths are anew okay. The suicides are on you the depression anxiety. That's on you. This seventy four year old man. Who's GonNa lose everything he's worked for? That's on you. Sadly even the Democrats owned businesses to right. I mean this is affecting Democrats to I know a couple at least I mean. I know the photography place on Main Street. Not Far more office right. She's an absolute liberal. She ran for Congress as a Democrat. Right fact. She's taking our photos overtime. I've had some of our business photo. She took us right. She's a liberal right. Her closed just like ours. Now that's a great point and there's going to be a bunch of Democrats that you're GonNa to me. I think maybe the dismantling of the Democrat Party there could be some positives that come out of this one of them is actually do right size. The size of government in certain places. Either that or they're going to win. We're GONNA have socialism. Yeah but I'll tell you this like you know the states like Florida and taxes are winning right. You're going to see more and more people leaving for that freedom and you know the governor to Santa's doing a great job balancing the budget Those states are going to come out of this like buying low in the stock market right. Yep they're gonNA come out of this bigger and better. They're going to have more people going down by the way they're gonNa have the right people going down. Those are business owners and people that have worked hard their whole lives just sick and tired of near state. Those are the people moving down to Florida. It's not the welfare recipient. That's going to be stuck here as you pointed out. I don't have the resources to move second of all if they're riding the welfare gravy train and there's no better place out of the thousand bucks a month in Florida. They're not going. Yeah no better place so the but the idea that demand is still there. I think is a huge positive so take away from. This is that so far. Demand is intact right as long as demand is intact supply is going to be okay supply we can. We can easily agenda supply by you know. I've things like tax cuts and things like that. Supply side economics works despite all the people that heresy it works worked for thirty forty years. It's works right. So what demand is hard to rekindle so once we lose demand. That's a lot harder to get people to open up. People get nervous and fearful. They stop spending money and that that does. That's a bigger turnaround leading economic indicator. Right because it says I'm spending money today because I believe in my future right. I'm going out to dinner positive. I'm going to have a paycheck in the future when you don't get that demand that's when you get the negative. Future Outlook is bleak right. I can't go out to dinner today. I'm not going to do this today because I'm not getting a paycheck in the future to your point about deflation right so the the you know. We hear it a lot of the economist. Off-the-wall we were worried about a deflationary environment. I don't think that's going to happen. I think you're going to have more inflation. It's it because again you're going to have good services like those pizzerias. Some of those are GonNa go away right so the ones that are left are going to be able to either. You know. Serve more pieces and they're probably GONNA raise their prices to right So anyway I one last day. Now I'm GONNA play this clip here if This is really a video clip. 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Apply today and tell them you heard about the job, the revision path. Get started with us and expand your job search today provision path dot com forward slash jobs. You're listening to the revision path podcast a weekly showcase of the world's blatant graphic designers, web designers, and web developers. Through in-depth interviews, you'll learn about their work, their goals and what inspires domes- creative individual. Here's your host Maurice Cherry. Hello everybody. Welcome to revision path. Thank you so much for tuning. In this week I'm your host Mariz, Cherry, and this week I am talking with Mitzi. Oku. An interaction visual designer at HP in. San Diego. California. Let's start the show. All right. So tell us who you are and what you do. My needs is Michio Kaku ion in action in digital signer I N based in San Diego California and I currently work at HP. So we're recording this during this pandemic that seems to be the only thing everyone in two thousand, twenty years of dealing with together. How are you holding up during this time? Yes. That's a loaded question because I'm feeling a range of emotion. So I'm good in some sense where there is a her lining in this pandemic can learn a lot of things and take classes in really kind of dealt into things that I've been wanting to add to my skill set. But then there's the other side by you know I myself I'm an isolation. So I have to think about a lot of things in that can be super overwhelming. So I'm good but also super overwhelmed by a lot of things I would say yeah. But seems like in California for at least were able to tell by the news that seems like the State is going. Maybe into some other form of lockdown. Procedures are being rolled back is that is that the case where you're at? Yes. So we were at phase two for a little bit. So a few things happened like restaurants bend and then it rolled back to phase one. So we're all just in lockdown nothing's really open for just harks neighborhood parks beaches, and that's basically it's super strict. You can't really get any service anywhere without rain a mask so it's it's super super strict. Okay. Yeah. I don't know if that's going to really be the case. I was GONNA say nationwide it's still feels like there's so much. There's so many arguments around whether or not people need to wear masks. There's going to be mandates I mean even here in Georgia like I'm in Atlanta and the mayors like you have to wear a mask and the governor's like, no, you don't and I'm GonNa see you mayor for say that people have to wear masks like there's. Different places there's war just weird precautions around all of this but. It seems like until we all get on one just like one accord on all of this this is just going to have to be something that we deal with especially going into the fall. Oh Yeah. I agree and it's weird because of the beginning of this people were putting a time line they were saying, oh, we're going to be back in three months. Back in four months, two weeks, and it just feels like there's no end in sight especially with how things are being handled in the country. So it's really weird because when you are thinking about changing careers in changing. Location yet to keep all nine that okay we'll let this mimic how long am I going to be in isolation for and wouldn't allow me to go anywhere in things open up back soon or sooner than we thought how does that affect everything? So there's so many things to think about yeah a varies in so many different places in the country too so Just. Even if you're like, say you're in New York, are you travel down to Florida I think I was reading something on if you're coming back from I, think it's a number of states. Florida's one of them that you have to do two weeks of self quarantine. Once you come back to New York but then I'm not sure how people are enforcing that. It's like here in Atlanta. Things have been pretty much open since April thirtieth there's been some levels of rollback with like you know I think we're back at phase one, I believe with our our city as well. But people are still going out and go to restaurants and going to clubs and the bars and places are still open. So it's just a really like tricky I know that there's a concept foam fear of missing out. I don't fear that I'm missing Alpa. Range of emotions like you said, when you see people just out about living life like buyers in kill says and killed one, hundred, fifty, thousand people I'm not afraid of you know. So it's kind of weird, how's it been working through this pandemic? You're an interaction designer at HP like how is that been Owen so I really try to keep myself motivated because I was reading this article about saying that it's actually really hard to work from home because the physical space of the office is meant to be that way because it helps you shift your mindset and also the commute their health you shift reminds it from the home life to the work life. And now it's taken away it's very hard to switch between mindset. So when you wake up, it's very hard to go to the work mindset. Then when you get into work mode and work is done, it's very hard to switch off because everything is so blended. So I really tried to continue to be motivated to the work in ninety my best in everything but I think personally, it's very hard to shit to that mindset to try to your best at work in my opinion. I've worked from home though for. Twenty twenty I've worked from home now for twelve years. And it is hard I mean even even after twelve years, it's that simple. It's definitely like building a muscle or training a muscle to be able to switch between those modes and it is tough especially at a time when you can't leave the house like it was a lot easier for me to work from home when I could leave the house I could go to starbucks. I'm working at a client location or something like that. But now it's like your home is now also. Your office and your gym and the club and the hang out spot and all these other things in one place and so yeah, shifting from that is it is tough. It is tough I think after twelve years I think I've done pretty well being able to make that shift but even with that like it comes with consequences because especially now with you not being able to kind of leave the house, you can still shift in mindset but like the work is sort of still. Lingering in a way as yeah like I found for me, it's been helpful to make zones like I have like my work office zone in my apartment, and then I have my relaxing zone in my apartment and I try not to do work in the relaxing I try not to relax in the work zone. That doesn't always happen, but it's helped a little bit. But yeah, working from home is tough especially with the constant news feed. Now about what's happening with the pandemic with other things that are going on in the world civil unrest, etc. it can be a lot to deal with yet and I find what helps oddly enough is to actually change your outfits to Sarah he's. Always in slick sweatpants. So always mentality of. WanNa. Be Sleeping but I noticed later on to be months I'm still learning to obviously because it's a a again it's muscle that you have to train. Like you said, I noticed when I wear work clothes, it helps me get into that mindset and then to switch off that all were Jim close my can work out in that tires me out and then I will switch back to shower in the John. Lewis and batches really helps with the transition and I think the thing that is also hard working from home is communicating with. Other people out work. So many things slipped through the crack because when you're in the office, you can just go up someone's desk and ask them a question. But when you're home, you have to wait for sponsors or people to get the end of the fact that we have these boundaries that don't exist. So then they take advantage of that five scheduling meetings during lunchtime or scheduling meetings past five or six nothing it really frustrating because like I want to ship mentalities to kind of properly put boundaries in work life my home life. Has HP been good about sort of allowing you all the grace to to kind of set your schedules during the Sun. They have been pretty good about it but I think internally because I work with the studio, you have to really be strong out the boundaries that you set because. So many people especially with a new upcoming release will just run over that in scheduled meetings during lunch or schedule meetings at eight or seven morning or after work. So I think the company upholds it. I would probably say the people in this. Do you don't really uphold that? Tell me about the worker at HP. So I, sent on the out of box experience team. So that has to do with when first of all printers. But when you're on the out of box experience team that has to do with creating the experience of a user customer person robbing a printer and that experience from. The package all the way to win the printers done being set up. And what I do is I make logic close and document behaviors as an interaction designer and pass it onto developers in review that and then when that's done because slickly on hybrid and I think the only interaction slash visual signer on the team batting requests can come to me and I will you know nicely skin it and make sure that all the branding is up to code and then delivered to the developers and the implemented? That's kind of an overview of what I do. I never thought about the the experience of setting up a printer. When I think about I mean I've had my my current printer, which is a Samsung I don't even think Samsung makes printers anymore, which lets you know how old it is but. I just remember getting it and the setup was pretty easy. You take it out of the box you hook it up the computer recognizes the driver, and then you're just kind of like good to go. I would imagine that's kind of the the best case scenario when you're working the printer but with HP, is there other like other parts to this sort of it almost sounds like an on boarding process to to kind of get people up to speed with printing? Yes, there are so many things that go into it. So I starting with localization, right because it's not about it's not just about America there other people in the world that uses product. So we have to localize Oliver copy properly and think about right to left text so that people can have a great experience nothing can see themselves in it. Then it's about all of these different little things like errors, how we present errors when someone does something wrong or when something goes wrong on the printer how do we make that Experience Nice? So it's making the user fuel bat and then what is the recovery path to put them back on the happy So a lot of things that go into creating the perfect experienced, almost kind of like looking at different paths in trying to streamline to one or have yours office the happy path, how we can go to a great recovery path in connect them to customer service to help them out or also not trying to you lead them to customer service because calls are really expensive. So it's unreal in that So the more calls we get the more money HP spend. So one of our objectives is always reduce customer service calls interesting. How's it more expensive? I don't know the mechanics find all I just remember is my manager saying that we cannot let them go to customer service that we have to create the vast experience because apparently really expensive I remember, consider the cost I mean oftentimes if I'm having an issue with tech customer is kind of the first person I want to speak with because. I'm a customer and I need help servicing no I can fix it and there have been you know services now that I think about it, you know mostly software as a service kind of things like Amazon or something like that where they try to steer you away from actually talking to anyone as much as they possibly can like they'll guide you through a wizard. They'll point you to a knowledge base article, but it's like I wanNA talk to somebody but I never thought about if that's expensive for the company I would imagine just what the cost of the call or something I don't know. That's really. I've never heard of that about it being expensive to do customer service in that way Yeah. So that's why we have to think about a lot of troubleshooting paths crossed to have the customer recover properly. So they don't have to go to customer service interesting. Wow. Okay. So is this your your first full time job here they? This is my first full time job right out of college. Awhile, how's it been house experience? It's been a whirlwind. Say, it's been the biggest learning experience. I think not really in terms of design. But I think having to deal with office politics and personalities as well as leadership and what is good leadership in what isn't good leadership yeah. I think those are the biggest lessons that I'm wearing and at first I was like I wanna be learning designed more but I think that learning the social aspect of being in a corporate environment is actually super super important and I think it could actually trickle down to your personal life on how you deal in reacts to people. So I feel like it's changed in the two years that I've been at each p. because now I really kind of sit with my cell. About what I want to say or how I want to handle situations and you know make people feel good and not bad rates. It has fueled like turning it on difficul conversations but also learning how to step for myself as well and not let people run over me. Yeah. Her fashion in that sense. And in your first job like that, especially right out of school like you're kind of. Your prime fodder for that to happen like some higher up. We'll take out some decision. They had nothing to do with you out on you and you're like I'm just I'm just here. It's not that I did or anything like that. How many people are on your team? So we have about thirteen people on our team. It's a really huge team in some sometimes will pop up and be like. Oh were worthy outbox exchange marketing and will will just feel it. We're ready to come from like this team is so much bigger in and kind of trickles down. So many different networks because the outbox experience, it's a huge complex networks and that's probably the most complex teams I'd probably want their people, but I'm pretty sure there's more lingering out there. So you're in San Diego right now you mentioned that before we started recording is that where you grew up now? So I grew up in Atlanta Ga.. Born and raised yeah I didn't know that. Okay. Growing up here in Atlanta was was arden designed kind of a big part of your growing up here. Now it wasn't I was actually a classical cellist. So I played cello for I've I certainly chills I was four and did all the way through high school and went to a music school for two years. So I actually didn't pick up the line or even we'll know I was introduced to design in Georgia but. Use, which is a part of my upbringing All the way up until I left home interesting classical cellist. Is there a big cello market in Atlanta I know there's a symphony here but When I was during if there used to be a big challenge market I, don't know if it's still that wakes not chopped into the network anymore. uh-huh. I think looking at different places Atlanta with such a great place to grow up as a classic especially a young black classical musician. That's really important. Being in this youth talent development programs that really worked bringing you up to be a professional. So that way I ain't gonNA mission statement was to. Basically raise the percentage of black people in orchestras across the nation, and so they would train you keep it all like music camps. So it was so great because there is a community of black hostile musicians in Atlanta that I'm pretty sure other people other young blockage rally didn't have which is really unfortunate. So it was great i. know that there is there's actually a music artists here. He's a jealous. Okay Cello. Have you heard of him. I don't think. So what is what's his first lasting? Oh, Cory Johnson but he goes by cello he's based out of Atlanta. Graduated from Morehouse I think a little bit before I did probably but I know about okay cello honestly, I'm not going to make like I like I'm like I'm like original. Oh. Okay Cello Fan. About this year, because I was supposed to interview him for a speaker series thing prior to the pandemic but you mentioned cello his name like immediately came to mind like Oh. Yeah. I could see that and I can also see how Atlanta would be a good city for a black professional musician because there's so many environments that you can be in. Like professional environments probably like political fundraisers I'm just imagining all the lake events and stuff to happen like in Buckhead, Ansley Park and stuff then they always wanna have like a string quartet at the event is. Atlanta's very lush with. Great art opportunity whether it's fine arts and performing arts. So I personally Miss Atlanta because back. But yeah, it was great and I guarantee you. I, don't know. Okay Cello but I'm pretty sure I know somebody that knows him because the thing is the the music, the classical music communities Berry small. So it can easily be like one of those Kevin Bacon degrees just like I know somebody that knows that knows my notes on the news him. Too. So that makes sense. Yeah. So you kind of mentioned before that you didn't pick up design kind of growing up. When did you? I know that design was something you wanted to do for a living it was actually my second year of college I was living in Boston and I was at a music school called the Boston Conservatory. I remember just feeling like the path that I was going down as a costly Shin was just not financially stable and I was worried I wasn't going to. Really Book Batman Gigs because it's so competitive about how talented you aren't who you know. Everyone, but it was really really bad in the classical music community especially as it's horrible and so. There was a certain lifestyle I wanted to live and I wanted to travel around and eat really good which is you're successful the cost musician you could but I felt like there are a lot of things going against me. So i. kind of thought to myself. Well, what I don't WanNa. Do this anymore mostly because I don't think that this is not going to be financially sustainable, but I walked to solve issues for people who had this lovely idea work. About it and I told my parents I, didn't WANNA. Do it anymore the only cello and they were just like, yes, we completely understand we're feeling this this entire time what you WANNA do and I said I wanNA do something with. Art Technology I don't know the name of it. I don't know what it is and they said Okay we'll book some school towards around the country and we'll go and so I went to school store a Taurus one being mass art think another being Chicago and my dad said Okay will I got your personal private tour Scott let's go together and go down there. So I went to Savannah and some of the counselors were asking me what you WanNa do and again I explained i WanNa do something with art and technology i. just really don't know the name and they said okay it seems like he wanted to graph designed To, start off with bat anti, I, feel about it and I said, okay that sounds good. Then I transferred to scab insurgent graphic design. Loved it loved foundation year, and then I took my first human computer interaction class because I was thinking to myself. Wow. Is My classes that I love this but this is still not putting on the route where one assault issues for the industry that I laughed and so one of my counselor was just like I think you would probably be into you X. so take this human computer interactions class first and see how you feel about it until I said Okay and I went in I took. The First Class with Yuki. Chung and that was, is that classmate it extremely clear that that is exactly what I WANNA do. So I took a few classes in interaction design obviously did the entire minor but it didn't add financially and I would have had to do some extra classes back nothing to do with the minor. So I didn't declare it but I tickled interaction minor classes and that's got into it and that led me to a fellowship. on's and that's A while so you really didn't make a a big pivot to go from music to design and then it all kinda started with that tour. Yeah. What was your time? Like they're in general? I mean coming from a music background and now you're in this art and design school was very similar to any previous experiences you've had. It was actually kind of a culture shock at verse, which kind of sounds strange. But it was a culture shock because in the classical music were all. It's so competitive and it's such a solitary discipline and even when you're playing in an orchestra, it's about being self aware. About what you're doing in order to blend with the orchestra. And? So that. was traumatizing because it was so negative and so when I got to Scott I was kind of expecting the same thing because it was a long fine arch track and when people would come to me and saying, Hey, do you want to collaborate kind of look around you want to actually work with need to get this project done and they were like. Why not and it was so crazy because there wasn't really any competitiveness it was pretty open in the sense that somebody was wanting to collaborate with you on something and so there's like this great community at even during finals it there was sense of camaraderie because during finals week so stressful and you would see Sony students in the building trying to pump off their finals and because everyone kind the empathize with each other if you needed something Oh, here's some scissors whatever he go to random people can ask for anything they would hand it off to you. So that was a great experience coming from something super competitive I would say. So it sounds like scared really kind of helped prepare you when you got out there in the working world as a designer. Oh for sure, I definitely could say that it gave me a solid foundation, but definitely gave me a healthy competitive drive to want to create amazing experiences and. Try and be the best. So so I really appreciate Scott for that. Okay. Speaking of amazing experiences. Let's talk about this conference that you put on back in June a few months ago where the black designers I want you to take the audience but also take me back to the beginning like where did the spark I begin for you to even like do this. that. It's not just one spark multiple sparks but. The first part actually started at scattered. And it was great experience. But there was something that was bothering me about the environment because skied is predominantly white institution sitting in Savannah Georgia, which is probably one of the and cities and was a predominantly black neighborhood and there was no streamline of black designers or black creatives coming in and you sitting in class and be one of the only black people and interest. Did Not feel right. So me and my friend or my friend and I Garrett I came to him and I said Garrett you something about this real raise awareness about this I want all teams to come together as a community to try and do something about this. So we try to do something similar but in a physical sense where we wanted to occupy galleries. And get community involvement in outside of school. But that didn't work because we have to get the venue and we have to get approval from the school, and if the school didn't approve, we had to separate ourselves from it and basically get things out of pocket and it was so much that it didn't pick off the ground. So we let it go and that was. Maybe three or four years ago, and so then after that I remember I was sitting in my room and I saw your talk where the block designers and I was in awe because I was just like this is the most fantastic blueprint and I was looking at the stream or the numbers of us on the video and by so why is nobody talking about this because? and. I was really questioning the in the thing is I came up every black history month as on Lincoln. It would frustrating so much that I would see companies say, Oh, we support the black community we support black history month here are token black employees and they can tell you why they love working here. Any me so mad because I'm just like it's very clear that your company does not have that many black people I don't know where your data is. So I really cannot. Say this out loud because I had nothing to back it up and also rushing for me. So when I saw your video, I was like this this is it, and this is exactly what everyone needs to see again. Come in the same thing would happen I got super frustrated. So then when the pandemic came and then after another flare up of black lives matter, I, don't know if it was the PINTA energy. Would say it was a combination of pent up energy and the triggering of me observing black history of all over again. But it's ten times worse because all of these companies are proceeding black squares and I said enough is not an ir literally remember the day before I watched your presentation 'cause I always do this when I get really really angry the design world I watch a presentation in I call Garrett now like we have to do something and I just really Really blocked to amplify the work that you did exactly what you were saying and basically use this as an amplification of voices and that's basically how pat came about and it was great because we didn't think it was gonNA blow up and it did I think the poster challenge in the kind of creative protest we had in digital space really put out there and then a lot of people came and wanted to help and it was so much and it happened so fast. But it was also so big do in super beautiful. Yeah. So. That's how that came about this interesting that you mentioned like this time has been like another black history month because that's I've been trying to put my finger on sort of what that feeling has been through most of June like. Of course, there's a horrific thing that happened with George Floyd, getting killed by police. There is now this increased I would almost say like this mega increased awareness of. What's happening with black people at the hands of police in just like in the general American system, you know in all facets of it, it has sort of felt like another black history month just in the terms just in terms of the I'm loath to call it support. I'll just say the attention because as many folks I know who you know who have been doing this for a while like that kind of support is fleeting like it's it's a good spike for about a month and then it just dies out as it's good to have that attention when you have it. But like it's never a sustained sort of thing and I remember getting during that month, I was getting all kinds of like press calls and stuff and folks are like so do you think this will last this last and like no I don't I mean It'd be great if it does last but you know I also know that I get the same spike, every February for black history month. So that's why I felt like it did feel like another kind of event like that. The interesting thing about that presentation, I'll I'll give some history behind it which I don't know if you've been really shared this on the show. So I had the idea to do that presentation back in twenty fourteen when this was. Around time that I I joined AIG as diversity inclusion task force. Shout out to answer that care for being the one that really kind of like gave me the inspiration to do that because she had joined as a CO chair and you know actually that's what I joined a I was in two thousand fourteen, and so really kind of getting on the task force and starting to do research on just black designers in general because they IGA had this. Series of interviews that they did call design journeys and they never really kept it up from year to year. It was a good effort but they never really tried to it didn't feel like they tried to update it a whole lot. and. Then even just being able to talk to folks that work in the archives and like look at the Nineteen Ninety Journal entry that came from Cheryl D Miller's nineteen eighty-seven article and looking at the results from the ninety one job symposium and everything and seeing how you know twenty plus years. Later none of this has changed that sort of inspired me at first kind of put the presentation together and of course. Do the research and everything submitted it to south by South West because they have south by southwest has process where you have to like you submit your panel information and I was doing a solo pound. This is my second time going to south by so I felt kinda confident that I would be able to to get in but the way that they do it is you submit your like panel and everything in like. July or August or something like that, and then around September Ish September October something like that. They let people know like, Hey, your panel idea was accepted. So every pam idea they get submitted doesn't accept it. So it gets accepted into this thing called the panel picker, which is a public forum for people to vote on your panel, and there are all these criteria that your panel have to like has to hit in order for it to Kinda be successful one of them's acronym called vowel which stands for voice opinion women ethnicity location, or something like that. In terms of like, no the vocation that's what it was in terms of the diversity of what you have for your panel. So you don't just have like four white guys or or whatever you WanNa diversify but then there are all these other sorts of things that you have to hit in terms of the time limit and things like that. So I got accepted into the panel picker. I. Had people vote on it and I had no idea whether or not I was going to get in because the panel picker voting period is pretty short it's like. It's like two or three weeks or so. And then south, by South West us is that they announced in waves like who got accepted to be part of the programming. So they do the first wave in like October November they do the second wave in December, and then they did away. I think it was in January of two, thousand fifteen, and now the event takes place in March in Austin. And it's a sold out of events like you have to get your hotels in tickets months in advance. So I, didn't find that I was going to south by in March until January and by that time I'm like, I have no idea if I even though I'm going to stay like all the hotels are books. If you get an AIRBNB, it's like five hundred dollars like it's it's super expensive. Yeah. Yeah it's Not. To mention getting a direct flight from Atlanta to Austin you know there were some direct flights, but they're more expensive because off is not necessarily a hub like you know Houston would be your Dallas or something like that. So I put up a Gofundme E.. G. A. said that if you raise a thousand match it, so I raised thousands of of gopher me so they matched it. Defined AIRBNB and went and gave the presentation. Now when I gave the presentation the way this south by does not know if they still do it this way but they put the majority of the quote unquote diverse content. In. One Room in like the top back of the Convention Center. So you have to go all the way to the top floor all the way to the back in this room nine ABC is where they usually have it. When first spoke at South by South West and twenty ten I was in that same room and now I'm doing the second presentation in. Two Thousand Fifteen in the same room and I'm noticing even as I look at the programming, I'm like why they put all the diversity stuff all the way in the back of the Convention Center I think they do it on purpose if somebody from stop is listening, I would love to get an update on that but I feel like you do it on purpose. So hit. Question. So. Weird. So aside from it being like all the way in the back, you know South by South West? Really only markets they're big tent pole type events they'll markets the film festival or if a celebrity is speaking like. Jimmy Kimmel, for example, I think spoke the year that I was there was speaking the room next to mine. So I spoke my room was like this weird overflow room where people Kinda just ducked in to charge their phone or like take a nap because like my presentation was at five o'clock on a Friday like people were really trying to stick around they were. Trying to go get some beer, get some barbecue find out where the party is. So I didn't really have a great time slot. It was not at a great place and there were maybe about fifteen or twenty people in that room people were asleep I can hear the noise from Jimmy Kimmel in the other room and people being like, yeah, she was so great. Give him a little presentation dearly empty room you know screaming lots versus. You know like some are asleep. Somebody up and they back off and but the people that were in there. Were people from facebook from pinterest. There was someone there from Dell there are a couple of other folks. So there were folks in the room that did hear it and we're like, okay, we need to talk to this guy like find out what what he's about in everything, and so from there I got invited to the facebook house because different companies come and they basically will rent out like a restaurant or a big house or something for the whole south by southwest time, and they'll do programming based out of there and everything like. A home base for the company while they're there. So they got to go to the facebook house and talk to people there, and that's how I ended up. That's basically how I ended up speaking there I think about a year or so later was really Kinda like hobnobbing get to know them but also them seeing the work that I was doing. So it Kinda worked out that way. But yeah, I remember giving that presentation and it was not popular at all aside from the fact that it wasn't popular at South by South West. prerecorded. Tend to go up on Youtube and then I think they I put up post about it after south by South West and the comments and the feedback that we're getting from people were so bad. Nearly yes. A lot of first of all a lot of people thought it was racist star like a lot of people thought the the initial imagery with the black background and the white like cartoon is a lot of people are like this is so racist this is like Sambo, Jim Crow Whoa Whoa Whoa wait a minute. This is more like looney tunes rain isn't he like every cartoon in the past fifty years when it's dark all you see I mean come on you know. But I was getting chewed out by people about that presentation and you know folks say, well, how can you ask that question and you don't wear the black designers always been here It's a rhetorical question. Okay. I know that we've always been here. Even look at the presentation it clearly we are. But I got a lot of flack a lot of flack for their presentations someone I did it and I put it up. I kept kind of directing people to it I. Think I even gave that talk a few more times I gave it enough and a few ad agencies gave it at how design live the next year here in Atlanta in two, thousand sixteen and kind of just let it stay up. There I was like, Oh, you know people want to check it out they can check it out but I remember getting so much hassle from it. I was like look it can just stay up here. I hadn't thought about updating it or anything like that. I just left it up there because at the time it didn't seem like people were very receptive to it. And then based on the feedback that I got from. Shit I just I'll just leave it up there. You know now granted this year in particular it's gained a lot more. Steve. Impart impart because of your event. But also because of now, this increased awareness of black voices and black designers and we start listening the black voices in someone's like I found this presentation I'll youtube. You know there'd be be a passed around and I saw pass around link Dan and someone asked me for my my then. Malinche. Just WanNa make sure that you're getting paid for this tremendous work I'm like I haven't touched that thing in five years sure. He my bag people aren't paying me for the presentation now after they've seen it I'm like Oh. Okay. So maybe I should update it because I honestly hadn't. Really thought about it. Since I gave the presentation. But then that's how I found out about your events because someone was like Oh. So you're doing this this events around it and I'm like wait what I'm not doing an event what are you talking about and then like someone shows me the website and I'm like it's the saved black hog wired up like. Like. This. I had no clue what it was about. I was just alerted to it when you were doing it like an early June of this year and I'm like what is this and I had to clear it up online because people really thought it was me and I'm like it's not me I don't even know who's behind it because there was no about page or anything so I don't know who's behind this. So let me just say I'm not behind it. So let's clear that up. So people don't think that I like all of a sudden putting this event out there. Right yeah and I think in remote because there was such urgency goes back to your point that it's so easy for this to be a trend in it's crazy how no one talks about this whole pattern of the flair of being out around the summertime and so there's some urgency 'cause I was like, okay, there's a slurp but I guarantee you in a few months it's going to die down no one's talking about it again and again maybe it was just pent up energy from this quarantine I was like no more this I'm not going. To, do a whole repeat of this black history month and to be honest either so shocked that there was amazing your presentation such an amazing resource in leads to all these other meeting resources and it just really baffled me that no one was looking at this and that design agencies and design studios were posing these black squares looking at this amazing blueprint of so many solutions out was literally just a click away on youtube if you just ask the question to because that's that's how I came about your presentation I was so angry one day that. Literally. You know you just type in random questions. Sometimes, just the wilder in. Washington. Hanley, just after will I wear the black sign in your presentation? Oh. My God this is amazing. Typing tracking the activity for I think since since twenty sixteen until now and you just disappointing that it just wasn't getting that much traffic and I was just thinking to myself. This is the question to ask because it's it's really important and I don't think that it could be. Any other way and it's rhetorical question but it's just something that I ask myself sometimes when I go into a row not to lack designers themselves but to companies right on where are people that look like me like this is not cool at all and. It's crazy because the event happened we got so many D- ends in emails that were saying Oh man I actually did my sister thesis and made it where the design is a really long time ago or I did a nine zine a few years ago for for my school called Worth Watson there's selling people that actually did a project around this question and it was great. Because I was just like so many people have been asking this questions, but it's the creative space in the in the tech industry don't want her either under the NBA ignore it or they just really just don't know about it like at all. So yeah, I feel like it's a little bit of both because like I mentioned before about black history month I'll usually get. Ping's about not necessarily about the presentation but certainly, just about revision path like during February and we'll say, Oh yeah, well, we can. We can feature revision path for black history month of Mike it's black stream of every month revision path but sure. It also happens to be our anniversary month but just a feeling of knowing that. You seem to only be valuable to as a community once a year, a sort of especially after I did the presentation I just focused on just revision path. I've been really thinking about the presentation like I put it up online I bought a domain. So if people typed in I, used to own the where other black designers domain. And I had a redirect to their youtube presentation and I forgot why let it lapse I think because nobody was watching it I was like, Oh, I'll just let it go. It's fine. So it's not surprising that it's starting to kind get more traction not even put on the presentation now I've said I plan on updating it for twenty twenty, which has caused a whole new set of I wouldn't say issues to come up and now people are like the update the presentation digit hard digit we want to put it in our book we wanted to like Whoa Updating it on my timelines. Like I'm going to be doing it with a colleague of mine because she has some some great data to add to this, send a Walker and I'm like we're going to do it. But like I'm not in any rush to get this out because I know when I I did this there was no rush to get it out. There, was a rush for to get it by south by, but like nobody was clamoring for asking for it. You know. And now it's like, Oh, well, if you do it, can you presented here and can we hosted here and can we do this Mike? Everyone can wait because you've been waiting all this time. I'll get to it when I get to it you know and that's not to be not to be a dick or anything, but honestly, it's like It's not top of mind for me. I will get around to it but I just haven't done it yet and I think the thing that has made the presentation probably still. So so pressure these these years later is that the stats have really changed yes. Yes I think that was the thing for me because I would watch it every years since twenty sixteen and just think that nothing has changed and then I think when everything happened again, this box wears came up I was just like nothing has changed in nothing is going to change and so that's just performance activism and That was just so rude. So yeah, that's that's a great point. Yeah. Let's let's go back to the event because you pulled everything together in a. Excuse me you pulled everything together in a very short amount of time I mean from I think you said you kind of first conceived the idea of doing this online like early June and then by the end of the month like the event was happening. and. You and I are talking about. An conversation actually you need Garrett we talked about this and one of the first things that I said to you was if you really want to do this like and do it effectively, you should wait and I was saying that out of like you know jealousy or spider anything but also just because like this information has been here this whole time. If there's this much demand for people will wait for it and I'm not saying that you have to like string them along but like give yourself enough time to. Like get it right I guess like do the due diligence because I didn't really know what a what shape the event was taking what I could tell just kind of based off of our initial conversation but I'm Mike. So this is a very short amount of time to put something together like. Maybe, wait a little bit and I feel like at this point especially with the pandemic people can wait what are they gonNA go? What are they gonNA do gonNA where to go? How did you pull everything together in such a short amount of time? That's a great question because originally asked this again because I really mean it we did not think it was going to get that large we were. GonNa be happy with three hundred people or just not hundred people because we just thought that that's what the scale was gonna be and I think that the poster Chime to happen really put that out there especially because it was community engagement and I think the fact that designers use her stills to say something. So I think it spread and then when it got really big and we started looking at How much this was gonNA cost to host all those people we were like, okay like this is actually a much bigger deal than we thought. We didn't know we were GONNA do we originally thought we were going to just have some type of small community discussion about this rhetorical question ray and not really have like an entire five to six hour conference and so when it got that big, we were kind of panicking a little bit because we just didn't. Have the resources. We didn't have the experience we didn't know anybody that had the experience, but I think the beautiful thing about it was because internally people so just jumped in to help one of the first people being Gary Hus- twit and he was just like let me just use my connections in just take care of the production side for you guys can really think about what you want to say and then it was kind of like you like game. Of Monkey in the barrel where it's like it's that little one. It's those red monkeys and they hook up to each other. It pulls another one out and another one until like the stream of these things. But but they're all connected in a way bats with that. Was We kind of dislike? Hey, we need a little bit of help one person hopped on and said okay. I would lucky do this but you should you should talk to this person to speak, and then we will talk to that person and they will put that they pull back personal log. Pulling people we knew that could offer all of these interesting voices. So it was very communal in its in the sense that everybody kind of like held hands and kind of came together to make this happen. This was like a community effort. It wasn't just me and Garett doing everything by yourselves it was like so many people are so many resources and so many interesting stories that that's how up really came about an interesting way and. Even than meeting other people and you as a young designer who just hadn't really no direction. In saying Oh there's there's a block designed community here that you referred to. But then also with the perspective of like not knowing that there was really a community I didn't really properly do researcher even like Dick hard enough especially excited to know where to even start I was also kind of bringing in other black designers that I felt like also should have voice and may have been. Knew or should be also introduced to the black designed communities also can all come together and discover each other that makes sense So that's how that was pulled together and I really made sure to say that it was really a community effort I feel like you're not kind of lit the spark and it just the came this huge fire because everyone contributed to it becoming that huge. Yes, I think you had told me that there were like thousands of people that had RSVP for this event. Yeah, it was. It was crazy. It was super overwhelming in a good way but also very stressful way to because. People were seeping. It was like the microphone was getting bigger and the audience was getting bigger and so we met with Cheryl because she came it. It was great because Aaron I had no idea what we were doing and we could have just completely gone on the path where it could have been a train wreck and luckily Cheryl stepped in and she highly corrected us but then was also really kind of. gave us direction in the sense that she's like you have this really big microphone. The best thing you can do is say a few things and say it's super wells that people get it, and in talking to her about that, it really helped us kind of steered the direction and pool a lot of things back because I can honestly say that we were doing way too much at beginning or earlier on. So thousand that she stepped in especially as a lack designed elder to really give us direction also being honest we didn't even know what we were trying to do as well because it got so big and so we were really mysterious always until the day of the event and even go after even after part of the criticism that came about was due to confusion because I think it goes back to the Chris. You're getting that a lot were here. Are you talking to us or are you talking to somebody else who are you talking to and I think after George flats and really think about the fact that we weren't even very clear on who we were talking to and So we really sat down and Lutton. We really figured out that we were talking to. I'll because even in the conference we were we were saying that lacking lot do anything Beethoven doing amazing doing great and needs to just continue what they're doing but it's all of these other allies I want to help out that need to. Also put in the work within themselves and. Also used some of their privilege in power and shift. So got beacon. Again divest from this white supremacist system in racism that has trickled down to even modern day technology, which is absolutely ridiculous. So it was very overwhelming in both good and a I would say stressful way but I always look at things as a learning experience innocence. I didn't take things personally when I got the criticism because even if somebody was saying the criticism in a way that made people even need feel uncomfortable I didn't really pay attention to the uncomfortableness because there was some truth in what they were saying and it made me question why that came a vow. So it was kinda process of filtering all of that but. and. I thought to myself. Well, if they're saying this out loud, it means that they partially care and that they want to see the succeed otherwise why would they get their time and energy into saying this out loud. Yeah. I was actually going to ask about that. That criticism. Some of it. I saw on twitter some of that I saw on instagram heavy criticism most notably from other black designers like how did that make you feel? Yeah I took it really hard out police say the first two weeks after the conference, the success that I felt the day was very, very short. Lived I. Only felt that for a few hours and then the criticism started rolling. In and I felt really really bad about it. Because I went into this mindset of thinking did I do more harm than good? Did I create a division in the black designed community and even within the industry it's pretty small, and so the last thing I want to do is create a divide in a community that is already kind of small compared to everything else in the industry itself and. I think the thing that really was a little bit. Frustrating for me is I did this part of this out of the intention of the fact that I wanted to connect a lot of black signers To the black design community because it's out there. But some of us, some of the young black is iron are on these little. Islands where we don't know what's out there. Right and I really have this passion to know what's out there. I realized this passion to be connected to people that look like me because I feel like it's really important to see that a tell me continue on my career in my opinion, and so I don't really bad because I thought the ruin something and it was amazing because a lot of the black Zaire's just like you know what you did. Great. You said which you need to say mate you. Could have done this that way. Maybe you could have said things and that was great to hear them say that in some people were just like you know we are we are here for you whatever you need don't worry about the criticism continued wine and then I think with as the as time kind of move forward I kept looking at the criticism but my perspective shifted in the sense that the the criticism wasn't really negative. It was more than just asking question and sometimes social media makes things look negative. Doesn't. Have to realize in separate was some social media has a tendency to make questions look really really really really negative and so I, reached out to some of these people that were giving the criticism. Now's like hey, I just want to sit down and hear what you mean by what you said and it was great because I met some of these people and not connected with them and they are give me the most amazing guidance and you know they clarified that it was just a question that all they were asking and. Even, after the conversation, I, don't look back on the criticism beaten just think to myself. Yeah. Actually was just a question wasn't really harsh criticism that it wishes that there was some confusion in that they just wanted to know why certain things happened or why certain people weren't included in any of this it took me a while to really comfortable with what happened kind of move on from that and I'm still doing that tube because I'm trying to learn how to step in the right way in like walk into like run superfast. It's all learning process, but I'm definitely keeping that criticism in mind I will be honest in the sense that do I like how some of the criticism was delivered note but do I respect it? I respect it completely, Gotcha. Yeah. A lot of the criticism that I saw I mean some of it was. During the events I did watch the events and like I saw people that were saying things like in the slack room there were people are saying things on twitter. There are people that were saying things like the youtube chat just to kind of see. Like. How it's all going and everything and I know just based off of the fact that you had to put this together. So quickly I mean I think logistically like the event went off. Great without a hitch like. From transition different things like it went off, you know Kinda just fine at I don't know if this was part of the criticism that you receive but I know for me as I was watching it I was like this feels like and you sort of said this earlier like it's less about. Black and more about. Like this is more for allies like it's. Four black designer because I think that there might have been this conflation of and this is something that I feel like also mostly took place in June because I haven't heard much this month but. This inflation of black with by talk or. Be IPALCO. To spell out each letter in the acronym, but it almost felt like it was this conflation of that where the question is, where are the black design is not where are the bypass designers and the allies that will help them you know what I mean Yeah Yeah and the thing is it was crazy 'cause even going through this process it was like a battle like okay. If the title is worth black signers and I remember I would put him by will be like, no I think the concentration be on black designers and Someone may have very clear to me and gave me amazing feedback that was saying you to be worth that if you're a title and there are words in this title at care to an audience, you should probably focus make your focus and your opportunities for the audience that is in your title. So the fact that they're the words black designer in them, that means that I need to focus on because that's what being highlighted and. So I understand that there is this confusion bind debt because again, I. Think. It goes to your point that by was being thrown around and then also going to being associated with black as well. So it was really confusing wishes why were trying to make it very clear now, even within the slack community that this is for black designers because it is and it should be treated exactly as such speaking of the the slack community. So you have the slack sort of team that was going on in tandem with the event and I think at its peak I may have seen close to four thousand people in there. Have you been back in the slack group since the event has ended oh? Yeah. So, there's a really nice community in there because originally that sock with us for the child than so many people stayed so many people started exchanging resources and contacts and so. This opportunity came up that we could actually create this community in slack because it's a great tool to kind of branch out into of things can be dangerous, but can also be amazing radio. So the slack people's are breaking out into different groups in different clubs. So I go in there regularly and we actually have a team of volunteers that help make the a space. super-safe, and we're starting to structure it and really build foundation to where people going in the sock comedian posting jobs. But we just shut down the job channels in the community. We told people to streamline that to a survey that we are going to link to the blackhawks know because we have a channel mainly actually not even mainly only for black signers in black creatives. and. So rocky starting to work at structuring this because so many people are in there and they don't want to leave and they are really happy that they can connect with this many people in one place and our blackhawks national is so beautiful. It's so amazing and it feels like this one huge family everyone talking to each other. Conversation in everyone's putting out ideas on what they can do to help out each other they're giving us ideas and suggestions on how should structure this everything. So there's a live community in the black designer slack channel right now, and it is it is popular for sure. It's well in live as good to hear that you put some structure. Around that because I think I might have popped in maybe a couple of times after the like the week after the event and it was just kind of seeing how things were sort of shaking out because I just. Feels like what are these? Past experiencing revision pads used to have a slack a couple years ago and it never got super large. I'd say, maybe at our peak we might have gotten about. Three hundred and fifty, four, hundred people or something never was was too big but. We did end up having those like bad agents that would come in there. That were particularly they're just kinda like stirrups a mess or you had people there that were just trying to mine data from people that were in the group like everyone send me Your Lincoln Account. So I can add you and then when you add them, they're actually spamming you with information about their startup that they want you to be a part of or something like. All sorts of things but I'm glad that you're putting this kind of like organization behind it. So it's sort of hopefully gets rid of and cancels out a lot of that kind of stuff I think at this point like slack has to know that their tool is no longer just for like working teams like it's A Hulk a big I know that they've been adding different features and stuff to try to make it more of a like a chat room message boards sorta hybrid but. I don't know eventually they're going to have to realize you to add some more like just moderating structure and things like that because you can have moderators enrolls, but it's still not like for example, one slack member can block another slack member right because you're all in the same team together. So the only way to sort of handle it is to completely remove someone altogether. Your verbally say some of them but even then like that's a bit of a Adriko Nghien measure to take when you know if the user could just block this person that is interacting with them that could be great. But that's a a slack thing. That's not anything that's endemic of you know that particular where the Black Outer Slack community that's just the tool itself. And I think it's been great to because. So many people are passionate about this community that I mean to be honest the slack community kind of runs itself to especially with the Black Caucus Channel I. Think I made sure to make it clear that this is a community we should treat it as such authors no-one trying to be trying to lead this sense where it's like if you wearing told what to do so it's really kind of beautifully autonomous because people are working to actually keep it safe whether they aren't official volunteer are not and they are either messaging or the team. Oh or seeing there someone being really suspicious or trying to stir up some trouble Dave report reported in their own channel and say, Hey, this is not the place for this either you get out or we will all kick you out. So it's so crazy in amazing to see how people are just so passionate about this community that they are willing to that. I keep their time and energy to keep it as such lending. We're just all excited that we can speak connected to each other on not be on these little islands like I said. So it's pretty great. and. I think it would help I. Mean I don't know how often you're kind of popping in there and you know saying, hello, whatever but I think that also helps. So people know that like it's something that you're a part of as well. I guess it's for the community but also like I'm here, I'm here benevolent overlook well, maybe not like that. Puppy and say hello. Gets people you know some of what Cheryl said you've you have this this big microphone, and now you have this large group of people with slack community that that's power. have. You thought about it that way? I thought about it in a way where like I feel powerful but not innocence words like myself in were there. So many of us and. There's kind of this attention on us where we can. Kind of like demand anything right now and call out so many people together and it will get so much attention. But that's that's how I feel powerful in the sense that there's so many people that are contributing like this community is making me feel powerful as a black. Designer not as the person that put this together. That makes sense. So, now that it's been, you know a month out from the event. You've had some time to kind of process, not just the logistics leading up to it, but even things that have happened afterwards like. Where are you at now with everything like I know you mentioned there was some next steps that you're planning on taking. You mentioned the end of the event. Yeah. So we're are actually trying to con a nonprofit because. So me companies and people are so passionate about donating, and we kind of want to continue on this momentum and really push the agenda diversity end and just representation forward. So we have newsletters are coming out. We have some amazing things are actually coming having to do with a lot of black designers putting out their work, not gonNA spoil it but it's GonNa. Be Pretty Great. We are Kinda planning eight fall series of just talks that are very useful to. Black signers and potentially allies but right now, our main priority, our lack designers. So so just bouncing around like having conversations about you know simple things like how to negotiate your salary because I feel like. We're not top things like that in slowing. This is in an opportunity to talk about things I can really empower young black designers to understand that they bring something amazing to the table. So we're kind of censoring that that empowerment in our fall series. And a lot of companies want to collaborate but again, sought full balking before running really trying to set up the good. Foundation all structure while also implying in highlighting other amazing initiative. So on Instagram we're always looking to highlight amazing people. We are trying to use a little money to donate to our community by hiring lack creatives to do some work for our website because again, this is communal were doing the wool companies considered a job in its database just specifically for black signers. So there's so much that we that we want to do but we're. Taking it step by step and just Kinda using just the resources that we have now. So that's basically hosting talks that's not gonna be as big as the conference and just kind of putting out challenges everything that the community can get involved in I'm curious to know you know this is really a blown up for you very quickly in a very short amount of time has this any sort of way affected your work with HP? Yes a little bit because after the conference. I'd probably say my second line manager was saying, okay. How can we do better? So that's what's changed in the sense, but it's not like a huge change around some type of celebrity or something especially because I don't really like that kind of attention and I just want to be taken seriously as a designer spill up a solid reputation like I've been trying to use since graduated. So it's good that they're not giving me special treatment because I don't want it. But outside of HP nothing honesty has really changed and I rather just keep it that way in since I, definitely do want it to get into the wave of opportunities but I don't want special treatment in a way where her are not working hard for something because I like working hard I think that when I'm working and learning a lot of things I don't WanNa stop learning if the all make sense. The make sense I. Get what you're saying. I'll just give you one tiny piece of advice. Don't sign anything with your current employer as it relates to this you've managed to. Build this up in a very short amount of time and I'm just telling you from past experience. Some employers will see that and they want to maybe hitch onto the gravy train just don't sign anything. Don't do it. Just, pass it along talk. So what is it now that is keeping you motivated and inspired these days I mean between work in even in the midst of his pandemic but you got this really positive thing happening with with what happened with the event like what's keeping you going these days honestly I think what's keeping me going is the work that I'm seeing in terms of personal working in design and I think looking at all of these amazing black designers in their style some these people styles just crazy an incredible and it's so different from the whole clean and minimal and Swiss grade, and it's so inspiring. It's giving me a new wave of creativity to just go wild and let. My funky Nassau and my love for being are funky and groovy in terms of design. So it's honestly just black designers in other designers in creative a collared. That are really just inspired me because they are truly being there often to. Cells in their work and when he put it out there, it's so incredible and I want to get to that point because I think I used to work in a sense where I want to impress people and really prim something to people but not starting to realize only at anything to prove and I think that when I'm warm myself, people enjoy that more in. It also makes more of a statement in the world especially to people that don't want to see a succeed. So that's been keeping me inspired these days. How are you using your skills to help create a more equitable future? Not, even my designed skill center contributing to. A more equitable future I think it's just empathy and sympathy. Because at the end of the day, I, know plenty of other black people know what it's like to be disrespected I think I care about others so much that I don't want anyone to feel that way, which is why I pushed this conference so hard because. I think for me. I don't really care about getting hurt I think it's like seeing other people getting hurt really just rex me a lot. So I think it's my empathy and sympathy that's helping me. To those things by being really open on communicating with people having conversations all the time it's kind of a fulltime job because or it's kind of two fulltime jobs because I have my regular full-time job. But then I'm also always scheduling meetings and making sure that I talk with everyone not messages me I really try to talk with everybody enter everybody's questions and really make them feel I'm paying attention to them because it's true I want to pay attention to them because they are really important and I don't WanNa, make them feel negative in any way on any level so I think it's Empathy and the meet communicating. That's helped contribute all of this in what I'm contributing. Where do you see yourself in the next five years? What kind of work would you like to be doing? I think in the next night ears. At such a loaded question because to be honest I don't even know I'm eat for lunch and I can't believe. I think I would love to be at a very high leadership level and leading young black like myself were even younger than that because I do love children do love education. Because like that is kind of key to solve a lot issues. So I think in five years, I would love to be in some type of leadership or mentor or teaching role. That's kind of what I the only envisioned right now and I try to Kinda take things step by step with the vision of looking at things in the future but not too far. I. Think that's all all I can say for now. All right. Well, just to kind of wrap things up here Mitzi where can our audience find out more about you about your work on line? Yes. So you can head over to my website Michio Cu dot com and you can also go on instagram. Okay underscore mitts and I think that would lead you to mostly everything else in the work that I do. All right sounds good. Well, Mitzi Oku I wanNA thank you so much for coming on the show. I'll be completely honest here when I reached out to you. So many people were like, why are you talking to her? A lot of people were like, why are you talking to her? She stole your presentation why are you talking to her and I said look I want to get a sense of like where she's coming from because this is all transpired. So quickly with this event and you putting all this together and everything happening, I'm like I'm going to give her a chance to really kind of just. Talk about who she is I don't really know anything about her. I don't know what her story is like really where all this came from. So I want to have her on the show to be able to talk about that and talk about the event in a space that is free from the moment him of events, right? Like if we would've talked during the time, this was going on. I feel like that could have been a different conversation, but I was like look let's let's however ask some time away from this. We'll talk we'll get a sense of lake what she's about and where she's coming from and so I feel like it's yielded not just a great conversation but also just a great snapshot into who you are and what your driving your work ethic is and. What is you're trying to accomplish, and so I said before when I was on twitter I was like support the event i. see what they're trying to do in terms of the mission I see where you're coming from with this. Now I support where you're going and I'm excited to see what comes next out of this. So thank you so much for coming on the show I. appreciate it. Thank you so much very giving me the opportunity in the time to come on here I, really appreciate our conversation that we had. It was so fun. Big. Thanks to Mitzi all too, and of course, thanks to you for listening. You can find out more about Mitzi and her work that the links in the show notes at revision path dot com. 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TKC 634 Amazon Announces New Devices

The Kindle Chronicles

45:15 min | 4 months ago

TKC 634 Amazon Announces New Devices

"Welcome to the kindle chronicles. This is a special show and putting together because I am online for an event that Amazon is streaming this is comparable to the. Products and services briefing that I attended in Seattle a year ago and with pandemic, it is now going to be online. And my plan is to talk to you contemporaneous. Asli. As the event is going to give you my reactions to the news and I hope to put this episode up tonight a day early so that you'll have my take on whatever new products are being introduced. I think there might be new paperweight possibly I'm sure you're going to be some Alexa devices. Knows maybe even a robot. So this is pretty exciting and they're playing attractive music. I've got the video feed on my ipad pro next to my computer and I'm can be talking to you and logic pro. Tighten it up as we go along. Five minutes to go and I imagine we'll see dave limp maybe they'll be broadcasting from the spheres where the event was held last year and I'm looking at the Atlantic Ocean. Now it's nice not to have to travel all the way to Seattle but there's nothing like an in person event as well so. I hope you will enjoy the ride and we'll find out probably in the next hour or so. What's what's the new stuff from Amazon look like? Well. They ran little. Had Lots of people. Here's Dave Limp. This time of year is in the spheres. But. Okay. Well I thought it would be interrupting the. Presentation to talk to you, but it was just too much happening too fast was about forty five minutes was that's shorter than I thought but they covered a lot of ground and I think there will be some material that I can used to put the show together. Well today it's Friday and I didn't stick with my plan to put everything up last night. There's just so much stuff to digest. So I've gone over the entire recording. Just playing parts of it over enough to really hear what's being said, I have probably enough notes to fill two hours of talking about the show. Then I also have a sixty minute conversation with Darlene because I thought, it would be helpful to get her take on things and she. Asked me some questions and we were down in the library on that. I think I'm going to begin with that recording and then I'm going to move through my notes and give you highlights opinions things that really struck me in a personal way. There's been enough coverage of this event. I think in the general media that you can get the basics of the Verge Wall Street Journal everywhere else the lots of other people were apparently on this virtual briefing. Sophia's downstairs talking about something, and so let's get started. Here's my conversation with Darlene recorded just a couple of hours ago here in Ocean Park. Maine for the kindle chronicles episodes six, hundred, thirty four, and I'm recording on Friday September twenty fifth twenty. Twenty We are in the library at the cottage and has good acoustics scissors. There's a whole wall of books in front of us and a nice rogue underneath. So Fi in d'orleans lap, and we're going to talk a little about the new products. So lead what was the virtual product launch like compared to the one you went to last year. It was kind of surreal because last year I flew out to Seattle in September stated of. I guess an AIRBNB. And it was the event was held in the spheres which are these big glass dome. Structures in the middle of Seattle full with. Plants it's just like walking into the Amazon rainforest really beautiful space. And we had the presentation of the new products and you had a chance to try them. And this year, the virtual version of it was set in the spheres so that the exact same place in effect the video. As began, you're in sort of a drone and you're flying over the spheres. So you're looking down at these big glass Globes, and then you're in the spheres with all the vegetation and Dave Lib the. Devices Guy starts talking. So it was almost like zooming into the place where I was physically last year. and. and. Then, it was A. You know there were more questions. There's more interaction there about two hundred people there I. Imagine there are probably two hundred people on the zoom. Presentation that I got an invitation to. So it was much more passive. You were just watching this thing and then try to figure out. The significance of it, and there's been quite bit of coverage since the event. Concluded about two PM Eastern, yesterday but. certainly Less expensive more. Efficient. and. I wonder if the coverage of the event is is any different than if it had been in person I, don't know. But you didn't get to see and halt the product, right? Yeah and that's a big difference because. I think we had a chance to go to a different building and actually try out the products. Trees Echo frames wearing and and it was kind of a madhouse because there's so many people at each station trying to to experience them. But that's certainly something we didn't get to do the virtual. So, what do you think of this new echo show ten? Well Echo show ten if there was just one of the. We're probably ten or fifteen separate products they talked about. This is an echo show, which means it's an Alexa device that has a screen on it, and we've got a lot of those that's what we use only talked. Dad. A video conference and this one is interesting because it's a it's a pretty big speaker. And the screen swivels three, hundred sixty degrees, and so it could be facing us right here or it could turn around and be facing the bookcase. And there are two ways that this. Is. Helpful interesting one is imagine. You're in a kitchen and you've got a recipe on the show and you're over here on one part of the kitchen and you're chopping something. The screen will. See you and we'll aim itself right at you. So you're looking straight at the screen, and then if you go over to another part of the kitchen to do something else the screen will just turn. So it's always facing you. which is kind of handy. The other used for would be that if we had one for dad where he lives. We could put it in the living room where it is now. And instead of it being fixed, aiming at the chair usually sits in. I could control with my iphone and you know if he had fallen down somewhere in the living room or something was going on, I would be able to look notch us at the chair, but I'd be able to swivel the camera around. So I, could see the whole room. Remotely. And this could be something that would be good. You know home home safety if you're away from your home and you wanted to put one of these devices like say in our living room in Cambridge, you could be looking at the front door you could look to the side know if you just wanted to see look, you'd be able to control remotely. Does that look useful or what's your first impression of? It is I mean, but we already haven't Cillian of the other ones. Yard Sale. See. The other thing that is interesting about this device is there's been talked Amazon's working on a robot and I'm picturing that something you know maybe three feet high and it can follow you on the house or you could remotely say you know Alexa checking the dining room and I think that the swivel of the screen is likely with the robot will look like it's lake. We're seeing the face of the robot because just the fact that it can follow where you are. It's. Jimbo robot that experimented with briefly. And the fact that it would kind of follow whoever was talking gave it it. Much more like a human. Or robot this like a human that simple Alexa show that never moved. Do you remember that you're playing that thing. I said it back and it turned out. It was all I could do. It wasn't that big a deal but anyway, this is a first look at what what a robot might look like. So tell me about the always home drone camera. Well this one is generated a lot of talk because what it is is it's essentially a drone and it it's indoors so that if you there's like a charging base. Sits on it and if you are remote, let's say we had it at the house in Cambridge. We were up here and we wanted to see well, did we leave the stove on you would just either talk to it or somehow control from your iphone and it will lift off and it would fly through the dining room take a left the kitchen. And then look around. Right. I mean pretty crazy. and. So. There's something even crazier about it. I gotTA show you this. Imagine if Sophie was home we did. I know as flying, it's recording video and it's beeping. So it's like this beeping thing flying through the air love this. Ode It's true true and see this is ring. So it can be tied to like the alarm that would show an intruder coming in. So this is a little little story here. Draw. With. Guy Watch Zyppah owned. Third. Guy. Is The drone comes at? Does, it call the police to know imagine the alarm system can call the police was called the always home cameras can come out sometime next year for two hundred, fifty dollars and there's people are freaked out because my gosh what if? Somebody could take control of it and fly around your home and take pictures you know the whole security aspect of. I think they've got a lot of protections against that that you can handle. But what do you think of just the idea? I hope. I just keep thinking about soapy. She would just it would be a way to give her a workout when we were there, she just started chasing all. Wow. I think that it's From what I've read about it, you can't actually drive the drone remotely when you set it up in your house, you create a map of your house. So that would explain this is the dining room. This is the Dan this is downstairs and so on. The controls would simply be able to save fly to the downstairs. So you're not actually kind of navigating trying to keep from hitting the walls with it from you know a thousand miles away I see the sound like actually running drones from. The headquarters Virginia and it'll it'll dodge dog says it as it goes I, think it's supposed to dodge different stuff. I guess if you're breaking into a house, yourself drone coming you, you probably would run. I don't think I would probably grab it. Baseball. Ready to go I. Mean you think about it if you can grab it and then you could stop the thing that had a picture of you know but by then it would picture of you. Coming towards you crack. To crazy future. So did the ECHO show audio? How come they changed the shape of it? Well it I don't I think that it looks nicer in other words. This is the Basic Echo. Now it's like a canister it's. Fabric it's nicer than the original, which is so tall and the the new ones are just round. It's like a round. Ball that has the sound and you've talked to at the same way you would Alexa and then there's a little one called the dot that's also route that used to be like a little hockey puck thing. And I think it's a combination of this is just looks nicer and then. It it. It probably has better. Audio Quality I would think. Almost looks like a the kind of a fortune tellers ball. You know it has a the blue light shines at the bottom when it's listening I. Don't know what do you think that looks attractive or no? No. Really you like the the canister better. Yeah I mean I I don't think it's worth paying more money to. Fund no sustain one. Cost so I don't think you'd be replacing one of these one of those, right? I don't really think it's attractive at all, but then opinion. Like the blue light around it, you could see when it's topping, you have a blue the top. Run. Chances you know listening, right? Yeah. The one that turns us more interesting than that. So now the big question. Which of these new gadgets have you ordered? Well actually I I ordered a new echo the round one twice as turned out. But then when I get ready for this, I realized my mistake and I I deleted one order. So I only ordered one of them. And there's a thing where you send them you say, please email me when. I. Can buy an echo show the new echo show ten. So and I think that will probably come in the next few months. It'll be just give me a chance to try that one with the screen moves around. And at this point. There's no chance to say, tell me what I can buy the always home cam. So I'll just be watching it. It's GonNa be available sometime next year I think they were kind of jump jumping the gun a little to show it. But sometime, probably the first half of next year, they'll go on sale. We'll definitely have to try one. So, which one's the drone, the drone is. Cal. Cal We're not getting that people drowned any time. Be Living drone free for the next few months. So can you hear that? I think she's going to like it. Yeah I think so too. then. They have another thing it's ring alarm. Detective Somebody's in the neighborhood or near the house and will start barking a dog in the house. And then she can bark back at. Work. I'm not sure we need that. Great, right. So. Thank you the chance to talk about the highlights. You have any other impressions of the of the news why can't wait till? They have a drone that I can send out to watch the dog. So I could put her out in the backyard and. if something tries to get her. Come down and start off the Fox if she gets out of the yard the Journal. Messy to fly above. Honking Sound Stop Cars Brune idea I mean it could be great. Owners everywhere would buy. They haven't expanded thing called Sidewalk Amazon Sidewalk, which is like extends the Bluetooth range of the house. So well, that's up and running the drone just follow her all through the neighborhood. Well, there you go. It could be drawn walking the dog. I think of more as the drawn protecting the. South fighting people off our dog is kind of like Dini. She can get out of anything but she's for the whole time running along birthing withdrawn it would be confusing. Yeah would be. All right. Okay. Well, this was fun. Thank you. Bye. I want to thank Darlene and Sophie for helping me out on that segment. What I've done to organize the rest of the notes that I took in listening to the presentation he candidates I've come up with eleven points, and these are going to be like little chunks are nuggets of impressions that I WanNa Talk to you about, and I'll just give you the titles of each of these eleven that I've outlined. one is the ambient home. To is sustainability three progress on echo hardware for echo for kids five a conversational improvement. Six doubling down on security in smart homes seven, the new care hub. Eight lots of products by ring nine, privacy ten, fire TV and eleven fly me to the Luna. So, we'll just get started and I'll take each of those nuggets and let you know something about it that I hope will be interesting. So first one is the ambient home. This is a phrase which kept occurring in the presentation starting with Dave Limp who's the head for devices and services for at Amazon. He talks about the. Ambient home saying things like this we believe that our homes are made better by technology technology that you don't have to learn that works well for everybody whenever and wherever you are. To us this is the definition of an ambient home and voices a big part of that He pointed out that a majority of customers use Alexa for more than one device that was kind of interesting. When I heard that we're ambient, it sent me to the dictionary and it means of the surrounding area or environment. It doesn't necessarily mean audio speaking to Alexa all the time. It just means that your computing power in the home is all around you and there was a talk about it may mean less speaking and that will be the home understand more about you anticipate your needs and. Be More contextual in this would involve things like routines and knowing when it's the right time to turn the thermostat down and the lights on. Second Sustainability. This was given a prominent place early in program and I learned some things that I didn't know Amazon has taken a climate pledge and the goal is to have one hundred percent renewable energy by twenty, twenty five, and they're five years ahead of the original schedule by shooting for twenty twenty-five and they're aiming to be net zero carbon across the entire company by twenty forty. Made a commitment to deal with ECHO and fire TV devices. In a way that they're made out of all sustainable materials, and then there's a focus on the energy use in the home. It's not just the use of making the products and disposing them. They're aware of how much electricity to these devices use in the home and on at average more than half of the total carbon footprint of devices actually comes from when they are in use. So what Amazon is doing is adding a low power mode for all plug in Echo on fire TV devices, and there will be free over the air updates to enable low power mode in existing. Devices also, Comey is going to be an energy dashboard for echo and Alexa smart home devices and Alexa will use this to suggest ways to save energy. They are also building new wind and solar farms to match the electricity used by ECHO devices, and they're going to expand that to match the energy needs of all their devices over the next several years. So in other words, they sell these devices there's more energy use they're putting that much energy back into the grid from solar and wind power they're hoping to. Be, a model for other consumer electronics companies to take on some of these kinds of goals in the area of sustainability into. That brings us to topic three and that's progress on echo hardware. This is in the context there's progress on using the cloud which will get to in a moment, but there's also constant effort to improve the devices themselves and the echo redesign which I mentioned in talking to Darlene it's it's a round shape now, but there are also new aspects to it. There's a built in smart home hub in the Basic Echo. That's one hundred dollar echo Currently you get that only if you buy an echo plus which cost one hundred and fifty dollars so the smart home hub. I remember trying to hook up. A door lock that had. Be. Protocol and get it to work. Because at that point I didn't have the smart home hub, but the idea of the hub is that more and more devices can can seamlessly sync with it and it makes the whole smart home. Easier to install and get working. There are also working on the speed they're talking about these new ECHO devices, shave hundreds of milliseconds response time. This reminds me of ever. Sort of the the constant effort to shave a little width and a little weight from the kindles. From the original kindles, it was pretty easy to start making them slimmer as you get further and further into the life's a span of these products it. It's hard to shave announcer rekindle, and it's probably hard to save one hundred milliseconds response time from an echo device, but it really matters you know I think that we get so used to how quickly these devices answer, and if the next generation of the hardware is answering just a little bit faster I think part of us realize it and there's A. It's it's a smart thing from the under work on because we're constantly getting adjusted to what's normal and if something comes on, it's an even a little better than that than there's an effect on it. There's a new chip, some of this. Kind of over my head, the easy one chip has new numbers, speech recognition models all all of the commands get answered more quickly because of things that they're doing kind of under the hood of the echoes, the Echo Dot is also around fifty dollars. You can get that with a nice clock a digital. Readout of the time on the side of it for sixty dollars and you can tap into snooze. There was some fun things that they did with the dot kids edition, which is also round, and you can get it in the shape or the the decoration of panda or a tiger. And there are kid friendly responses one thing which Is Part of this the rollout and I'm not some of these things they announce and they didn't say it's a it's it's here immediately or if it's coming but one that I thought was pretty cool. Was Alexa voice profiles for kids and what this does is when you get into this mode for kids if I'm thinking grandsons Ryan and Jake who are six and. Four if they had one of these kids ECHO DOTS in the room they talked with that's fine. It's all kid stuff. But if they go through the house and they talked to one of the echoes in the rest of the house, the Echo is going to recognize that it's not an adult. It's not my daughter Roo or her husband Mike it's Ryan Jake and that that will result in you know. Content which is aimed at kids and speaking. kid-friendly responses no explicit lyrics in music that it plays and I just think that's pretty cool and and I tell you these grants in mind. They are talking to Alexa all the time and they talk and I'm surprised that the lexicon and understand that because they you know they talk like very young kids and with this system when Alexa here's that voice they're gonNA, they're talking to a kid and she's going to respond appropriately that I thought was pretty neat. There was A. Really, interesting kind of dense part of the presentation given by a row hit Prasada, who is vice president and head scientists. For Alexa. He's I believe he's based in Cambridge and Kendall Square I met him once just briefly at South by South West and he's really Kinda, Guru for Alexa and has thousands of people working in that area. So they gave him a chance to talk about his vision for Alexa, which is pretty simply making it as natural to speak to Alexa as it is to speak to a human and you know this reminds me you know the the kindle vision from the start was to have every book ever published. In every language available for download and under sixty seconds if you really bold a Dacia goals. And, that's the kind of goal that ROE head is pursuing with his group. Actually have these devices sound just like we're talking to a human that brings them digging pretty deeply into. Is Human Communication like and he pointed out that one of the things we do is we ask clarifying questions if somebody says something we'll follow up and this is now something which Alexa is going to be doing. If you tell Alexa stop that's wrong she's going to detect that there was an error and then she's going to use something called deep feedback surge to automatically correct those errors and he was announcing today as of yesterday a step further for self learning is giving the customers the ability to teach Alexa Alexa will now ask questions to fill in her learning gaps row he gave. A demonstration of this, he was in an office I pretty sure it could see the Cambridge skyline in the background and He's asked his Alexa to set row hits, vacation mode and Alexa responded, what do you mean by row hits vacation mode and he said sixty degrees and she said, well, I will remember that and then he had another one about the brightness of light setting. So it was actually sort of a conversation which Alexa was learning things that she would be able to use again in the future the next time he said row hits vacation mode she was going to know. What that meant from that particular customer. This uses he said a set of deep learning base parcells if I heard him right to figure out which part she's having trouble understanding, and then generating a clarification dialogue this is pretty sophisticated stuff. This is this is where linguists and Engineers are probably talking to each other just to figure out how to bridge this gap between. A listening and humans. Another. Part of this desire to have the communication sound human is how Alexa response and he said there's going to be changes in how she responds based on conversation context. You can your tone she can stress certain words, pauses breaths, and that's made possible by neural text to speech technology and it's coming in the coming months. He gave a demonstration of kind of a flat Alexa response and one in which there was. There was modulations. Oh you. WanNa hear this. Well, let's play this. Sounded more human in the actual speaking style of Alexa. The third area that he talked about was even more mind boggling it was a conversations and this is where you can have an Alexa device join a conversation with two other people and. There's the the competence which he was announcing yesterday is called natural turn taking, and this is based on an awareness. That Alexa is not always the one that is being spoken to if there's multiple people then Alexis trying to decide when she's it's her turn to participate in the conversation. The demonstration of this was two women talking to each other and wanting to order pizza and they began it by saying Alexa, join our conversation and she says, okay, let's talk they say they're hungry. They mentioned pizza and she says, well, there's good pizzas at Mike's Pizza. One of the women says that one in response to what she's seeing on the screens an echo show. And then they go to what movie you recommend. So is it was obviously a scripted conversation, but it was showing some capabilities that are coming to have this kind of conversation with Alexa that. Were fairly impressive. the part of the ability of this particular device Alexis show, which does have a camera. Reading a coup, stick signals, linguistics, singles, and visual signals to determine when. One, or of these women was actually talking to Alexa, and then that's when. The Alexa. Would respond so. These are. I find these kinds of innovations and advancement fascinating and I love the scale of the ambition that this group has. Had I I'm sure that they'll just keep relentlessly pursuing it with all kinds of resources. This is one of the things that Jeff Bezos has realized is a big hit and when they put this kind of resources and you know five ten years down the road If someone were to talk to Alexa the way she is now they think Oh. Yeah. I remember when Alexis sounds like that compared to. The much more human like conversations that we're going to be having in the future. That brings us to topic six, which is doubling down on security in the smart home. This was a section of the program given by Daniel Roche VP of smart home. He noted that there one hundred, forty thousand products that interact with Alexa in homes, and he expected that we will be speaking to Alexa less because of things like routines and detection of sounds like broken glass or footsteps doors, which will trigger various activities by the system he said that more than two million people have registered for. which is service which gives. Monitoring through echo devices, and then responses which can be helpful as a result they are. They use that phrase doubling down and that is leading to service called guard, plus which will cost five dollars a month, and they'll be one month free. This has twenty four seven access to emergency hotline. hands-free emergency access and detection of different kinds of sounds that might generate a need for security or emergency response This is the the pattern that has and they give a signal to it. When they talk about customer reaction to this has led us to double down on it that they mean exactly what they say that this guard capability of the Alexa that was something new I I remember this coming out in the last couple of years well, apparently, it's really hot and people like it and people are willing to pay for it and therefore they're. Moving a lot of chips into this kind of activity. Within the smart home that Alexa will be able to help out with. Topic seven is the new care hub This is something that I'm interested in because we have such A. I just have such credited for the way. I. Can stay in touch with my father during the pandemic. He's ninety three living in a apartment, and I can drop in on him with the echo show. He's got a favorite chair in the living room and each day we just have a chance to have some wonderful conversations There are now the. This care hub is a way to create a high level relationship with family members. The way it's described. So if you had somebody like my father somebody very close and perhaps living alone, you can set up ways to monitor and listen in and in a helpful way and obviously a way that is. Approved of by all parties taking place. They showed an example of notification that was coming in from. Its care hub alert like text message I guess maybe coming in on the Alexa APP and it said First Alexa activity on MOM's echo show. So what it had done is It had detected that there was some activity on one of the ECHO devices by. An elderly mother, and then there was an option to call her or to drop in I, like the sound of this because I've had one thing that I've done with dad is he shares my Amazon account and that way I can drop in on specific devices in his home. And I've always hoped that there would be a way to have separate accounts because I see messages that are showing up as reminders on his Alexa system, and he's seeing things on his screen that I'm doing. So it I'd rather have my own Amazon Alexa device or a setup I think there'd be advantages for him. So I'll be taking a look at this new new care hub to see if there's ways to do that. Emergency contact is another part of it. if if a person that's using, it says Alexa help. Alexa will find in this case the sun if he's in his kitchen, she'll talk to them there if he's on the phone, so there'll be a very quick way to. Alert family member that someone needs needs help pretty good stuff. topic eight. Ring acquired by Amazon a couple of years ago. The president of the company was standing out in front of the original headquarters for ring just. Dizzying amount of products that nineteen products introduced this year over ten million monthly active users on the neighbors APP, and then talked about the one that. Talked about with Dr Lene. The always home cam she also mentioned three-car security products that will be available early in twenty twenty. One one is a sixty dollar car alarm Another is a two hundred dollar car cam, and then there's car connect and that's an API for Cars that will tap into their existing camera systems and I was. Excited to see the Tesla is going to be the first car that will be set up to be able to use car connect. So if I get that though be I'm having this kind of ring system that sends me alarms to my iphone if something is going wrong with my car. Topic nine is privacy and this is a concern which is frequently, which frequently greets new products that Amazon pushes out the Washington Post proved how independent is of its owner by the pre snarky column by Gregory, Fowler and it was just basically saying that Amazon stuff it's creepy. And Okay you know we make these changes and more information gets put out the the one thing that I always am surprised at is why someone can get. Upset about something that an echo show is doing when they're carrying around an iphone in their pocket, which is tracking every move you make, and if the could easily be hacked to send information start recording you or whatever, and yet, we've gotten comfortable with that because iphones are just part of our daily life. When these new products show up there, you know a drone flying through the house. It's understandable that there would be concerns about privacy and Amazon is. Aware of this some of the for example, when they were talking about the echo show ten, that's the one where the screen moves around while it has to be watching the person to tell where they want to be aimed but they're not using facial recognition. It was pointed out there getting sort of an understanding the human form enough to be able to tell well I think there's a human over there. So that's where the screen is going to go, and the other thing which I believe is Dave limp mentioned is that the technology for the echo show ten is all running locally it's not in the cloud. So the information that's guiding this screen moving around never leaves the device itself. one thing I. Point out passing the there's a much better camera in this new echo show ten, it's a thirteen megapixel camera compared to a five megapixel camera on the current echo show, which cost two hundred seventy dollars in the new one's going to be causing two hundred and fifty dollars. The other aspects of about. Privacy they've got a new thing. I'm not sure if it's available yet or will be soon. You can give a command Alexa to delete everything. I've ever said. So Alexa stores information from what we've said you can go in and see all the questions you've asked Alexa. It's it's all transparent there. But. If you're just uncomfortable having those questions available in the cloud anyone, you can just say delete everything. I've ever said, and then you can have that be the default so that going forward, it will delete everything you say is Immediately after you've said it and given the command and it's been acted on by Alexa. Fire TV devices were mentioned over one hundred million have been sold one thing which I hadn't seen in I wished they would do they're now going to have and that's videoconferencing by fire. TV I. Guess You'd need a Logitech camera than you could put it up there but I think that'd be great. You know on a nice big TV screen it would be fun to drop into my father with his echo show and maybe have a whole living room full of people visiting with them. So I think that's a nice advance. There's a new fire. TV. Stick with Alexa voice remote coming fifty percent more powerful same price. And then there's fire TV stick light. It's a little simplified the controller and that's thirty dollars well, two, thousand, nine, hundred, nine. Last item number eleven is a Luna and this is a game streaming service I I'm GonNa try this out. You know I'm a real dabbler when it comes to video games I can remember when the. Microsoft. xbox three, sixty came out I started playing halo I'd never played video games as a kid, but it was just intriguing to me the Microsoft. The computer company was getting into gaming and that ended up being pretty big thing will now Amazon is getting into a certain kind of gaming and it's gaming the where a lot of the actions taking place in the cloud backed up by Amazon web services, A. W. S. There will be a controller, the Luna Controller, and it's It's going to be available. You can put in a request for early access. It'll cost fifty dollars to get it, and then that controller will connect directly to the cloud not to a local service or you're not going to have to pair it with your iphone or anything like that. It just connects to the cloud, and then when you've got the Luna Channel or the Luna plus channel, you'll be pulling games down and playing them seamlessly from the cloud. They showed some dirty looking gamers trying to system out and they were delighted with man. It's just so smooth and I don't have to wait for the video game to download. It just starts up immediately and it it. It has some kind of interface with twitch, which is Amazon now owns twitch and it's a huge platform where people watch people playing video games. It's just like a whole world. I don't know that much about, but it's You're going to be able to watch people playing a game and then can drop in on the game via Luna and switched from playing on your fire TV or your pc or your phone or your tablet. Anthropologist can of. Portable, it seems like it's a it's a portable game platform. So I put in my early request in I will have a Luna Controller and maybe it'll be some kids games. I'll be able to play with Ryan and Jake can my Grandson. James was fourteen. At, the end of the presentation, Dave Limb came back and said, the team has been really busy. We've got a and all of our products and. Our goal is to help out in the home and just fade into the background. Thank you so much for your time. We can't wait to see what you all think as address to the journalists. who were covering the event virtually and I love the thought that as I was sitting here, watching my computer in Ocean Park. There were you know maybe two or three hundred other journalists from all around the world. Doing the same thing when I was there last September I sat next to a woman who come from India to cover the event. So there was a lot of money saved and travel by everybody having a chance to drop in on this event. In real time virtually. that's it for this week. I've got next week David. Bloom is going to be our guest. He is the editor in chief at audible. He's had a long career Amazon starting out with taking over kindle singles very early, and after it was created and he's done a lot of interesting stuff I'm looking forward to finding out what sorts of things he's doing at audible creating original content and He made kind of a bold move leaving traditional New York publishing career Ending Up Amazon and I think he was eight years ago maybe more but it'll it'll be fun to talk to David and then I think the week after that Dean Koontz queued up I'm reading his book elsewhere and I'll be talking to him a week from. A week from today. So I've got a lot of reading to do. It's a good book. I, hope you enjoyed this. Overview of the Amazon devices preview. Held virtually yesterday and. If. You hit dams on dot com you'll see the information on which of these products you can. preorder or request information on when they become available and you can be sure though except for some of the ones like the, the indoor drone will be available for the holiday season and prime day I think I saw somewhere is coming up on October mid October. So though the probably be some specials, there's well. This. Is Land for the kindle chronicles from Ocean Park Maine I really appreciate your taking the time to listen to my show every day by.

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Credential stuffing attacks and data breaches. Coronavirus-themed phishbait is an international problem. Super Tuesday security post mortems. Huawei agonistes.

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Today's news include several disclosures of data breaches and ransomware attacks. First clothing retailer. J. Crew has warned affected customers that sustained a data breach in April of Twenty nineteen. The store has disabled an unknown number of accounts that were exposed in the attack. It's asked the affected customers to contact customer care to restore those accounts. Bleeping computer's says the incident was a credential stuffing attack in credential stuffing attacks. The bad actors use big collections of username and password combinations which they try against targeted accounts. Sometimes they get hits. The tactic works because people tend to use the same user names and passwords across multiple accounts. If one account is compromised the credentials can be tried elsewhere. There's a thriving underworld market for stolen credentials and credentials stuffing is a big reason. Why that particular crime pays. In addition to writing affected customers. J. Crew has also notified California's Attorney General Tech Crunch Wonders. Why it took. J. Crew almost a year to disclose the breach. A spokesman told the news outlet that routine web scanning detected improper access and customers were quote promptly notified and quote. There's some vagueness there. It's not clear for example when the scanning took place or win the anomalies were detected. Credential stuffing has also bothered consumers in the UK. The Big British supermarket chain. Tesco has responded to a credential stuffing campaign against shoppers. Who use its loyalty cards by reissuing? Some six hundred thousand new cards to its customers. Tesco told the BBC that its own systems had not been breached but that customer loyalty accounts had been back in the US Connecticut headquartered industrial conglomerate M core has disclosed that. It sustained a ransomware attack. This specific strain involved is real. Amcor says it's investigating but that operations continue and there appears to have been no data-breach and mobile carrier t mobile has warned customers that an attack on its email provider resulted in the compromise of a relatively small number of employees email accounts this is of concern to customers because some of the employees emails that could have been accessed by the attackers contained customer information. That information might have included. T mobile said quote customer names and addresses phone numbers account numbers rate plans and features and billing information end quote credit card and social security numbers. Were not the company added at risk. They've closed the breach and are working with federal law enforcement to investigate historically SEASO's have turned to the government and said defend us from other countries that want to wage war on a country. But how do you defend against a country that wants to wage war against a business joining us as bill? Har- see so at secure off. Who spoke with Dave about the New Challenges? Seaso's face helping businesses stay ahead of these threats. The world of bringing systems people companies online into a digital environment that has no gates. No controls has a pathway from anywhere to anywhere in milliseconds. And if if you think sort of historically or even currently an ICBM takes thirty to thirty five minutes to make it from Russia to the US Right now you onto dos attack in milliseconds and now it's encrypted technology so with everything going to SSL you have nice private communications between some point somewhere and the targets are after today with the attack that we see Equifax Marriott opium anthem. None of that data showed up on the dark web for sale. And that's because you know somebody nation state and I think it was yesterday. The they charge the the P. L. A. With The equifax hack. They're looking for massive amounts of data. They need as much data as they can because then they can start. They can quite comfortably sitting in a secure facility somewhere in China or Russia wherever it is start running analysis on who would be a good attack or good target who would be a good victim. Who could they turn? And it doesn't have to be that typical one where you're looking for the one person that has access to everything you can. Now look for somebody who has access to someone who has access to someone who has access and you know in sorta going down the line. So it's it's a it's a really really messy place. The there were sitting right now. You know I've heard folks say that. Imagine it had the Sony breach in a physical breach. Had you know a a nation state Broken in rifled through the file cabinets and taking things back to their country We'd be talking about a different situation in terms of how we would describe that or label that You know could be considered not just espionage. Perhaps an act of war. How do we contend with that? How do we contend with that difference? That in the end it seems to me like the results are the same. The the the bad guys have your information. They have your data. What's the responsibility of our nation to help? Protect us against these things That is that is a really good question. Because it extends I think farther than just stealing information you know a DOS attack takes people take systems out causes economic disruption well the USO had isolation right friends to the north friends to the south and historically if you look at something like Britain Britain had the Rif they had the anti aircraft guns. They had Boats in the Water. Patrolling the shores. And that's how they defended so you know. Planes came over tried to carpet bomb the citizens of the factories or destroy the the economy. They had a defence against it. And right now we don't And the problem with that is to bring in. Defense creates a lack of privacy For lack of a better way to put it but to try and put up those barriers to try and put geopolitical barriers on Internet. Is it does work. We know it doesn't work. There is a responsibility. I believe by the government to provide some sort of protection. What that is. I'm not sure yet. What about coming at this from the other direction? I I think These days particularly with ransomware attack sometimes You'll see organizations who've fallen victims of these things will they'll stand in front of the microphone in the cameras and they'll throw their arms up and they'll say well there's nothing we could do. This was a nation state attack. And it's sort of if nothing else. It's a rhetorical. Get Out of jail. Free Card Yeah It's a tough one. It is very much a telephone because a nation state attack is not predicated on making money. Right ransomware Or typical ransomware. Where they're looking to get bitcoin out of it and make some money out of it. That's an economic ground. And if you stop paying ransomware ransomware goes away because it's no longer profitable so it is a bit of a get out of jail free card because if the if someone points back and says hey nation state attack will what can I do. I think eventually that's going to wear thin. I think we're going to have to start looking at ways to protect people and that's ultimately I think what it is because they need the people. They need those user identities they need to pass credentials. They need people to do things. So we're moving to a place where I've for a long time. Said there's no longer a work life balance their simply balanced life because a mobile phones because of telecommuting companies are going to have to start finding ways to extend the security that they have at the office to the person not to the building not to the physical location but to the person always at all times because even that person that works in. The factory is going to have a mobile phone. They're going to walk into the factory with the mobile phone. And unless they're dumping them off at the door and Verde gating caging place. They're walking in there with electronic device. That is a potential attack point. So they're going to have to find ways to start extending it and I think it will become a business or an enterprise Piece almost like a benefit. Like Kinda like insurance you know. We're we're giving you insurance to help you with your health. We're giving you dental insurance and vision insurance and we're going to give you digital security. We're GONNA SOMETHING. There'll be a way of form of doing that. We see that companies like Z. Scaler that that do the always on. Tak- with wherever you go but I think it will go beyond that it'll get to a point where there's a balance is different profile because everybody has different identities. Everybody's got a work Dandy. They've got personal entity probably have two or three personally entities. I think we're going to start seeing these enterprises in an effort to protect themselves. Extend the protection to their individuals at all times. That's bill harm from secure off. Criminals continue to use corona virus stories as fish bait in a tax on businesses. The Wall Street Journal writes citing research by proof point sometimes the approach is straightforward fishing as it is in cases of a bogus email purporting to originate with the World Health Organization. At other times it can involve business email compromise as in cases that show phony invoices for large purchases of face masks from medical supply companies. It's an international problem for observed in Japan. According to Reuters even Russian President Putin is taking note and blaming foreign rumor mongers and similar assorted no good knicks. Russia's Internet Authority Russ comments or has been blocking bogus stories on E. Kentucky and facebook the Super Tuesday primaries in the US went off without hacking or evidence of effective disinformation and Bloomberg reports that NSA Director Nakasone told Congress yesterday that superior preparation on the defenders part made the difference. He compared this week smooth defensive performance to what he saw in two thousand eighteen. The two thousand eighteen midterm elections didn't go off badly but in comparison to this week's operation the twenty eighteen security measures were general. Nakasone said like a pickup game out. In the Golden State Los Angeles County did stumble badly with its new voting machines. Long delays induced by malfunctioning machines produced. What the Los Angeles Times called in ugly debut for the county's new three hundred million dollar voting system and quote voters are reported to have been standing around the polling places for two hours or more while poll workers tried to get the machines running or else get back ballot into the voters hands other election. Authorities who have adopted similar devices are reviewing their plans. The problems in and around the city of angels were it should be noted the result of technical and organisational mishaps mistakes not the work of hackers or other meddlers executives from Nokia and Ericsson the European hardware manufacturers the US government has suggested would be attractive and more secure alternatives to China's waterway expressed their support this week for US laws. That would push the Chinese manufacturer out of Five G. Infrastructure The Washington Post reports while way executives also attended the hearings on their own but weren't invited to testify while always preferred solution. They say is transparency on everyone's part and the company's executives believe that a fair reading of everything they've done for security would set. Everyone's mind at ease and speaking of Alway- Reuters reports that yesterday in attorney for the company entered a plea of not guilty to racketeering charges at an arraignment in a US District Court in Brooklyn New York. The company also said they might have to ask for delays in the proceedings as the corona viruses. Making it difficult for their legal staff to travel the racketeering charges are directly related to the company's alleged theft of intellectual property from US firms. And now a word from our sponsor observed a proof point company the greatest threat to businesses. Today isn't the outsider trying to get in. It's the people you trust the ones who already have the keys. Your employees contractors and privileged users sixty percent of online attacks carried out by insiders to stop these insider threats. You need to see what users are doing. Before an incident occurs observe it enables security teams to detect risky user activity investigate incidents in minutes and effectively respond with observant. You'll know the whole story. It your free trial at observant dot com slash cyber wire that's observed dot com slash cyber wire and we thank observant for sponsoring our show and joining me. Once again is Mike Benjamin. He's the head of Black Lotus labs at centurylink. Mike it's always great to have you back You and your team have been doing some research on Nanna core and you've got some stuff you want to share with us today What do you have for us? Yeah thanks Dave. So non-core a as many people wear it's somewhat commodity rat and has many of the remote access Trojan features you'd expect key loggers Password stealers file X. Fill on nothing. Really particularly unique in that space are feeling was recently that a lot of folks have dropped off their visibility into it because most desktop Manta virus does a really good job of checking the binary install and stopping it however what we like to do is go hunt these things in a more Internet wide scale and we found a pretty wide install base of people both trying to deliver and having it actively installed with call backs across the Internet. So what we went and did is ultimately try to validate whether running how they're running and then look for the install base. Of course you know. We like to notify people there infections but really the the messages that Nanna Corazza rat is not something that we should be ignoring. There's always a hosted infrastructure. That does not have that. Adequate update does not have that adequate. Catch an employee's out how to bypass anti virus or somebody's home doesn't have an installed and so things like non-core other rats really are still a threat for stealing information from people on a day to day basis and is there any particular sector that they're focused on so is interesting. The install base that we saw was heavy across broadband providers Funny enough the two biggest broadband providers were in the US Russia But also you know big populations of people in both those places and so our belief was that they were targeting more people on the smaller end of the business spectrum larger businesses. Doing a better job. At protecting these things as well as some home users looking to be more opportunistic around US impossible to banking sites and other things. So what are your recommendations for folks to best protect themselves against non-core realistically Best Practices. Make sure that you've got some sort of endpoint agent locking things from running. That shouldn't be running or even being on the file system. That shouldn't be there. Nancy thankfully is relatively easy to protect from that perspective. But also don't click links. Don't download things nothing particularly sophisticated from a protection perspective. I will note one interesting thing that we found. During the analysis a really odd statistical concentration of communicable called back to Nigeria and so ultimately looking at the geography of where you've got traffic going can really yield some interesting things and just about any environment. Yeah that is interesting all right. Well Mike Benjamin. Thanks for joining us. And that's the cyber wire for links to all of today's stories. Check out our daily briefing at the cyber wire dot com and for professionals in cybersecurity leaders. That want to stay abreast of this rapidly evolving field sign up for cyber wire pro. 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Monday 12/16/19 - Christmas Mass, Movies, And Traditions

Chicago Dog Walk

18:54 min | 1 year ago

Monday 12/16/19 - Christmas Mass, Movies, And Traditions

"All Right Bank today is Monday. December sixteenth Chicago. Dog Walk Carl. It's Christmas The Christmas Week I guess to bird here reporting for duty yeah. We don't know the schedule schedule next week. So we're doing Christmas episode now. Yeah it's the season yeah. Holiday Season Tubers reported. We got to birds for Christmas or Nala Leah. Virginia Baked Ham to Virginia Baked Ham. I depends I gotta talk to my old maid sees the smoke it but I think it's important if you're going to Virginia Bacon Ham slice it by hand. Don't get the electric slicer out. I hate hearing the electric sites around the kitchen. What's your What's sharp sharp tonight? Get a sharp knife. Put the Apron on get. Get your hands dirty but I feel like you can get Thinner slices I forgot to tell you something very important. was that when I was when I was treating the birds my hi dad pulled out like surgical gloves by plastic gloves. He's this way way cleaner operation. Forgot to tell you that our struggling struggling very it took effort to get these clubs on my hands very frustrated and they don't give a fuck about these gloves ribbon. Surgical gloves are something yet. When you need them like they they come in Handy and I know my dad's not listening? But you're a Weirdo for having those sort of just having them around the house anyways So yeah so you Do you have any Christmas traditions. I know you have one really a play. Is that right. Yeah it was yesterday in. We went to shenanigans instead for a Christmas nations park Chicago. I did at dinner my my my cousin my brother but it's historically we go to the Goodman theatre for Christmas Carol Larry Janda plays Ebenezer Scrooge in a classic landmark performance performance across Chicago. You'd really like this guy's head of the theater department at northwestern what's funny is when I saw them obviously and ask them how it was they said. Oh it's great same thing every year. I was like same thing really. They're like no like something changes like a little bit like it's just a little tweak. Yeah so like a little bit like miniature tweak they would do oh the probably the the best one is the ghost of Christmas past because she's flying around like crazy sometimes and other times she's like big and fat and other times it's like you know little guy and and so they like to change the like you know or is it going to be really funny in in some respects or who's going to be you know. Oh yeah so like all right I I could see that would be like jarring like that. Keeps people on the edge of their seats. Who's going to be the ghost past but a lot of the set stays the same and that's what allows us set to be so good for the same sat in it's like this is the land? This is goodman theaters like world series. Like they're just raking cash in right now like this is their gold standard. So it's always slammed when he go. Yeah right now. It is Gotcha holiday season season. PEOPLE WANNA get into place man so are you hosting this water now. No I'm not actually my wife and I have hardly talked about this and this is kind of weird because now that I'm married Christmases different. When you're single you go the home? You don't have to think it's a great holiday. You're taking care for like days on it so to that extent. Are you going home. Yeah I'm going home. I don't know if it's at my parents house. My sisters sisters or what but you don't care I don't care it doesn't matter to me. I get the tax today of or you know a couple of days before I show up. You know I'll probably run the target like the day before four kids some gifts and then that's that's it now. I'll have I have to go to my. I guess we do have a new tradition now because now that I have older brothers and stuff more married married were in that next Phase I have to. My mom is adamant that she has ever the boys our wives and the kids over ver- she's adamant she's like I don't give a shit with date is on the calendar. GotTa happen it. I don't care how close it. So it's December twenty first this year. You guys were actually there last year while I I was in Vegas. You guys weren't calling him. Yeah that was no is an interesting one white sox. Dave and chief were in my dad's garage but like stowed away just waiting. My mom was like fine. You can record a podcast Karaj on Christmas so I think it was it was. I think it was Christmas Eve. Yeah Yeah it was Christmas Eve yes yeah. It was Christmas Eve at at my parents house and everybody was just smart goal. Isn't that red eye radio. Do you have traditions. You guys are Italian. Do you guys like someone makes it dish. There's always There's always pasta there. Which I guess is maybe unique? Do you have a favorite but You know I guess favorite favorite tradition. Yeah I really do like it's it's pretty. It's pretty standard. I don't you know you watch all the movies you can you do the I don't no no like I don't go to midnight mass anymore. Okay so that was. Yeah like midnight mass this year. Yeah might like go out with those. I'm thinking like well. I'm in charge the house now like I'm getting up in my own bed and Christmas morning like you know those are actually Kids I might give any presence. Those are actually some. KFC's Zyppah best blogs. I think is when he talks about like Christmas mass. Or whatever and you know just going back and seeing people which Italy haven't seen in twenty years there's is just unbelievable. You know one thing never changes when I go to Christmas. Mass is like I don't care how this comes out but like you can't help yourself but just like check girls like ERC churches like the number. If you are checking and I'm sure the same thing goes for girls in there's like checking other dudes out but there's just something about it. Well I mean let's be honest standing there. It's not when you're when you're listening to the homily. It's not exactly good follows. You know you can get a little distracted. Yeah it's not and especially when you're a kid like you don't have any turmoil the church like I understand why parents go to church leaders been through some shit. Yeah you're a lesson to be going there in repenting for you're not even listen at the end I if I'm not mistaken isn't like usually the. It's the same right like Christmas. Like priests could have different homilies. I know same story same same. Yup Yup Yup GONNA say bad Catholic here. Because I don't really know I mean I think I think it's I think it's like the British open like a couple of courses you can pick from. Yeah no I like it right. You're you you can't get outside of the courses you pick. Yeah exactly like you get the manger you get the fucking Frankencense and Moore you know and then you just kind of go on with the story. So aw there's nothing different so yes of course when you're hearing the same story from it doesn't matter if it's your fucking Grandpa or or the priest you're gonna be mosinee around and maybe see some fucking a pair of black pants. It is what it is exactly. So there's there's I mean the movie s back actors interesting. I'm a huge. Do you have any tradition. I mean I you know what let me just come out and say this is. I'M A. I'm a weird guy. I'm really into Christmas. I've I've been into Christmas. It's like day after Thanksgiving tree goes up I'm really close to my mom. There's three boys but my mom's like tomboy but the stuff she goes all out on. It's just like you know you around the house as a kid helped put the tree up you know. She needed like girls to do it or any of that stuff. So there's a lot of the stuff we're like I know a ton about you. KNOW IF WE'RE GONNA get into Christmas. I was when we say you know like I've seen them a thousand times with like you know I'm just very into the holiday season and shit because I like it. It's it's cold and shitty man like there's something something about seeing the lights up and you know people are a little bit nicer so before we talk about any of this. I do WANNA come out and like confessing. I'm a big soccer for Christmas. Like fuck him starbucks starbucks changes the cops. Change The fucking cops. Yeah no I guess you know now that I think about it. I do have one tradition that I do bodies and I told you about that before. I mean you guys I know we like. I don't know they come over to my parents basement every yeah every Christmas Eve and we buy like the shittiest shittiest beer in the world like I'm talking steel reserve and Shit like that and we play this game whoever loses gotta drink the Shitty. I don't know and like everyone's rip and six and my parents. Space is the one day year where it's like all right. You know six or six are allowed inside and there's something special about everybody screaming inside like that's like everyone gets excited for it and Apparently smells like smoke. Yeah you know the Sean was is in and it was called. Yeah jewels away boy. So need to be I guess my only only real tradition and your only real tradition is just like a scumbag on baggage. Real fucking bad. Santa Burt no sorry. Billy Bob Thornton kinds of of bad Santa. I think that's the the funniest Chris was movie. I know people people love Alf. And it's got its place you don't like health. I mean like we're talking Christmas movies empowering and I'm Mike it's a B it's in the category for me I'll watch it but I'm not like jerk off to it. Like people are like sending memes and Shit. Do you have a top five do do I have one that I'm GonNa Blake. Nah I get really put one on a spot for you right now. But that's right. You don't have to do it. Let's let's let suckers was before we get to Christmas. We do gotTa talk about our friends Tapie crossing move. Have you got a new package. Obviously it's called Tastes Real Chicago. It's got a hot MULATA. A Mile Villava. Hot Air Mile Journey comes in a nice box. SA- perfect Christmas present. I mean probably the best comment that I've heard about this is just sprinkle little on your pizza. I mean I'm telling you the the packaging second-to-none I've said this before if you're giving gifts opening a gift and seen it neatly packaged like this'll knock socks off. Ah I don't eat. Can we deliver in time for my making any promises. It like gyms going to be like fuck Karl. I'm not sure but either way like okay. What is it GonNa Taste worse on December twenty eighth? No it's not you're GONNA it'd be fine so just give them the box. Merry Christmas. It's delicious yeah. JP GRACIELA DOT COM. Go there it's a taste real Chicago web. It could be ordered anywhere. They're or selling them in different states. So if you WANNA know what it's about if you're listening to show you from another state here's your chance. Go try it out if you're in state They closed. They're going to be up until two PM on Christmas dismissive so which are anti pasta. Get your dessert tray. Whatever you up now can we talk just quick customer service too because I saw someone on twitter is like Jim? I really would like to have it but I live in taxes. Axes and james like here's my email. I'm getting but of course we do. Texas of course no problem no no problem so yet make sure you head over to JP GRAZIANO DOT COM. Get your get you're catering trae or get your taste. Roll Chicago package or visit them in store. Ninety one restaurant off okay. So movies Naturally being from Chicago how I'm going to assume that you are a big home along huge okay. In one is in my estimation and opinion. I should say. Have some agent clear lear opinion ones better than to like the motions in the themes to empire strikes. Back it just bigger. You know what I like to to better I do. I like the bird lady or do you like the. Do you like the toy story like you like the toy store. fucking soccer for Dunkin's toy chest aren't NFL Schwartz. Guy As a kid I was not Enough Air Schwartz guy but I I know of it. I mean I was born here. There's one in Oak Brook. Okay okay because I the main one there wasn't one at all broke. The main was in New York. I know I know closers okay. I'm off track. junkins Dunkin's toy chest. I mean that shot of just did you know Joe Patchy and fucking blanking on his name right Daniel Stern Daniel Stern poke their heads out through those little fucking houses. That's great you know that's classic they can rip off at toy stores pretty funny. Yeah them running up the Kevin running up the fucking shoot where they're dumping the garbage at the fucking renovated. How good in that? One though are like noticeably. More dangerous like they're like fall. I mean he's like throwing bricks off the house if these these guys face so that's a that's a I mean. Mark Turns into a fucking skeleton. Man Get I mean. That's a great now. Do you know about home alone. John Hughes who wrote those. He wrote the heap deep when he was making those movies. I don't WanNa come off as a movie. Harto sorry I get excited about the stuff. So but the story is John Hughes. We made a movie wanted he yet. It is like a comic book in his mind. Comic Book was like Live Action. So it was. That's why everything's so over the top. Oh well that's pretty interesting. So it's it's a long drive past the house as a kid you throw edit. I've I've I've done a lot of shit like that but I've never driven past that house. Okay but if the jingle all the way house was here you drive past all the way you know. I like that movie. You don't like it. That's that's not just your Christmas top five that's in your actual power as it's awesome dude. Honestly it's an awesome. Do you not like it. I like it who would take your hook on it though is it's just I. Ah I'm sure okay. I love a good road trip. Okay so obviously the movie road trip. I'm trying to think of another movie where it's like. They're constantly on the go while well he's always was on the go. You know like every time it's like you bring me to another spot and it's like all right here we go. You know. I had this in your adventure category category. Yeah it's great. You know what I mean. Put it up there with like you know Star Wars. There's my second star wars reference rises skywalker coming out. I can't help myself just picture that you're the setting is like all right. I Arnold downtown now. He's all the way in fucking Oakbrook you know. He's trying to fucking wheel and deal turbo man. Yeah Turbo Man. Woods his special. Jill dougherty remember I don't know I don't think they went that deep on terrible man but I love. We loved Jingle all the way now the kid who in jingle all the way ready for this one on guys. He's in Phantom menace. Third IF I can make another no I'm GONNA get on my other references in fun fact. He quit acting because people are being after he. It was annexed Guy Walker. Isn't that just yeah. Any went to Columbia College College. So Star Wars fans four year institutions. All all right. So what about A Christmas story. A personal story is good. Okay story I think that brings out like that just like smells like childhood. It's it's one of those things you walk outside. You can't miss it because it's on like I think what's a TNT plays for twenty four straight hours. Yeah that's a kind of the way like AMC BS. Maybe maybe they used to Godfather. Yeah no you can't miss it. I am off guy. I don't love it like like Oh you know what I do. WanNa give more home alone before we moved forward Don't overdo home alone. Now you know like home alone I it's kind of bothering me. It's turning into the office in a sense. You can't if you're playing it before you get like I've watched it once now I you can't. You can't double down before you get to like the teen. Yeah you know what I mean like. It's come into the office like it's like I don't know like everyone just kind of sucking his dick to everyone loves it like that's take it easy but yeah now getting install say Christmas vacation awesome that Classic bears hat is just just a that. Doc I mean it's it's like once you start talking Christmas vacation and now you're like it's it's hard to kind of like this. Is why kind of struggle with jingle all the way so be honest with you because you hit you have these like I mean landmark movies by Christmas vacation is like that's you know that's in the vault. See I'm telling you it's just like movie rat race like you know just like you change up these locations on me and like all right like Oh you know. A Lot's going on. I just appreciate that too. You do black and white no I know what fucking thirty four street or something case it. Just say thirty thirty four. We have to say it's a wonderful life so people won't bill units wonderful. That's a great one George. We never seen actually Christmas and Connecticut's a great one Sydney any Green Street. I believe plays. What's your mother's favourite one? My mother's favorite one is probably. Oh mark can we watch I would say a probably. My Dad's favorite is scrooge scourges. Good and Bill Maher. Just I've been saving that one. That's a good one that The the cabdriver I forget his name is the villain Mr Nanny with whole Cobra and that guy is like a real villain. Mr Nanny is warious movie. Why did you bring that up? I don't know because because the guy if you know this guy you know talking about I forget his name but he's like a scary looking guy. Yeah Mr any such a good movie. diehard word is a Christmas movie depending on the context in which you watch it so like. I don't like people in the same way you. You gotta go easy on home alone like take it. Easy with like diehard hardly. You're not the kind of people trying to Haro when like shot in the conversation. Joke is kind of like not well. You're really late like my cousins ends and I were. Were doing the die hard stuff like the early two thousands. We like John. Mclean a Christmas so like now that I'm in my thirties on my all right man. I've kind of taken lap on that. I think we've hit. Most of the classic is Gremlins. I like Gremlins GREMLINS is in its base in Chicago right. The APP believe so so Fred Claus needs more respect. Someone says to me while I ask a question on twitter because I feel like if I miss something here like a big one. Someone's going to be like you son on a bit. How about Jack? Frost were Michael Keaton and comes back as the snow. That's so weird in the Sun is like my dad he's a fucking Muppets day yeah muppets. Yeah someone's okay. Well all right Carl. How grinch stole Christmas causes? This is a good one on Netflix. That came out to animated. You get a chance to check that one out animated. Yeah all right anything else before we go. I'm GonNa go home and Light a Nice holiday arief candle. I'M GONNA DIM my lights. I'm GonNa lay on my couch my dog. I'm GONNA drink some spiced eggnog. And we'll have more of this root beer. CBD and. I'm GonNa have myself a nice Christmas weekend and dice I love it have Have enjoy yourself. I mean we're going to be back. I think I don't know the holiday schedule yet. But we'll have a couple of shows over Christmas week but besides that also also jingle all the way a little teaser here later in the week later in the sorry I keep calling all the way Big John the mailman. I brought him on Christmas special so He He. You did not like jingle all the way either he was not listen. Don't pay me someone who doesn't like I don't know I'm just saying like nowhere used on my passion for it. Is that right. Well now I understand it and now I have to go back and watch it. It's I'm busy plus. Okay Santa clause with Tim Allen Fucking I knew I was lingering. Oh you said okay. You'd mentioned that is such a good one. Yeah all right then everybody That's it for today. We will catch you tomorrow.

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MANDALORI-ON! - The Mandalorian: Chapter 5

Nerd On! The Podcast

51:19 min | 1 year ago

MANDALORI-ON! - The Mandalorian: Chapter 5

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It's been angry like why are these not our being our they think so. No I would also say this everyone. Everyone that's watching every expectation Look at every single star Wars TV show but are all Harry minutes and and and it's You know this show is very reminiscent of like the to use another fictional Rick Dalton era of Western very much. Where are there thirty minutes the arcus complete by the end of the episode? The big whatever batty is dealt with by the end of the episode and they move on to the next place. Hello everyone everyone. Welcome to your new daytime television. It really is. It feels lighter Texas like yeah and I love that format like me to sign fine with really excited about it. I'm just kind of cemented for it. Kind of hearkens back to the OH. Let's go watch howdy doody time not not so much that. But if you're watching a show like Davy Crockett or something like that where you would have these celebrities come. It also helped me realizing this helped me like accept the fact that Tyco is only in one episode. Because you're like oh if it really is like these old westerns back in the day where Rick Dalton would come all right the bad guy and get killed off like it makes sense that we've seen You know what in just in one episode or hold on. Don't get too far how WHO's in. What episode I do have to make quick announcement? Yeah I apologize anyone listening to spoil anything. That's a carefully. No so I'll say this last episode on Mental Oriana early on I Spoiled some information about bit Brash. I spoil some information about characters who would be in future episodes. I won't say the name episode it'd be And we got reached out by player a lovely listeners on twitter which you can always do if you want we always Love Yeah we will if you want to like say what you love and what you don't like about the show. We WanNA always try to make the best show for you And so with that. I'm going to say this in episode eight. WHO's GonNa know I'm GonNa down my name's Jimmy? Kimmel fluck gamers okay. I'm kidding so thank you for shouting out and speaking. Yeah Yeah so so yes staying away from from that territory seven still. I think it's still stands that were getting these or at least what's so far being presented as these one off character right we kind of interaction story ARC. That ties them together. Being there in the baby someone their episodic Some would say it's almost Syrian. The logical yeah and I think they're very much in the day for Loney type we we can kind of. ESI Or Law and order this Baloney. I know but I'm just saying it's very law and order rush where you like. Yeah you have banned by the end. You're like it's done so we can just transition right into our first impressions. Yeah Yeah we'll give you first impression. Then we'll do a little bit of the production reduction of what the episode had him. Yes yeah So he wants to go. I go you know. Go for open right off the bat. I just say I'm always excited. When I see Amy Sedaris owning thing I think she is a gem It's nice that she's working on another project because for those familiar elf steele every every seen L. Steel that episode and So I was excited to see that being someone one who is a minority supporter of the phantom menace. I was also excited to see the little droids though pit droids. Yeah Massimo's Eisley I dunno scoring. Yes Super Surprise Easter Egg after Easter Egg For us which was very very nice at first when I first digested justice episode I was like was it a I at first when I did. Just the episode. I at first I was like just I I was like did I enjoy. Enjoy that because The name of the actresses slipping my mind real quick who played Oh yeah that Sh- Chirac is complete within an episode. But then that's when the realization happened for me. I had just been talking about once upon a time in Hollywood someone and I was like. Oh my God this is star. Wars is of the era of these these Spaghetti Westerns and stuff like that that we're like on the fly. Let's finish the ARC that kind of thing so. After it came to that realization it helped me cope with Taika death in the first episode. And that kind of stuff and I ended up liking it. A lot more I enjoyed the Easter eggs. Lot I wouldn't say it's my favorite overdose owed yeah Because three to hold that title in my heart it's hard But it was nice it felt very seventies era star wars. And I really love. There's something I really loved about that. As an maybe nostalgic kick it was I again had a lot had a couple the very similar realizations during this episode and again. Same thing like I don't know how much I enjoyed I mean I did enjoy the episode. It was I think it was pretty decent uh-huh and it was interesting that like you. You realize that star wars with this format is letting us do that as letting us have the characters like ag eleven or whoever is jade and this IGA eleven. Are you love as a Michaud. Yeah yeah and they're using a lot of comedians which is interesting because I just learned this for for some reason I avoided my trivia but the blue guy from the first episode. That's Horatio Oh sands from SNL. Really Yeah his first bounty is Horatio Sanz from SNL. She's and so and also the guy who drives the he is speeder on ice and that first episode museum by the Fish is also another stand up comedian from. Just shoot me and other things. Yeah I recognized him from stuff any complaints. That's what I mean is that you can bring bring in these one off guest guest high profile actors and like have really cool interesting characters for like a half an hour or whatever yeah and not not have to commit to like a saga you know what I mean So it's really it's really nice in that sense so like the assassin and the junior bounty hunter this episode they'll give oster ferry On Solo Very Landau cameras in very it was very much like in that Western thing and I'm and like her interactions with him and like that's pretty cool and yeah I mean it was really. It was really great. I think like sort of moments in the life of how cutthroat it is out here on the outer rim. Yeah you know like that kind of thing so I dug. I dug it from that perspective. Pige royds like come on like that's made me happy. Be Bass Fan Service you could have given it for this episode You know what I was thinking. Well there's A. There's a scene not spoiler alert. Obviously but I mean lean on what he's walking out. I mean this might be favorite part kind of but when he was one hundred thousand initial impressions when he was when he was coming out of the of the shop op for the first time onto the streets of I mean yeah I was like a thing to my head. He's saying I'm here to buy Moisture evaporates bubble gum. And I'm all out of bubble gum or something the state and get some power converters as a as I wanted this. I was thinking so so it was cool to have that sort of like trip So Tom Brings Down for me. Yeah my initial reaction. I think this is probably the worst episodes so far Not saying like it's garbage in blessing comparison. Just in comparison album. I think is probably the weakest Mainly because Nothing really happens at all. The only the main thing that happens in terms of a story is like there's a boot next coming not mean now when space as a lot of theory and theory doesn't do anything onscreen so like it's cool. It's that wasn't my argument the same but it's like unscreened like nothing happens like we get a character that we you know we got a lot of characters that nothing really happens with and then we get a mando Who just kills people but such as the Western? Yeah so it's like it's like every western. TV show is nothing really happens and everyone kind of ends up right back. Where the where? But I mean there's even at a point where it's I don't even did take care to root for anybody because it's like well obviously man does not going to die and obviously the only person that I you like. Hopefully she'd like was Emissaries there's hopefully she doesn't mechanic was it but I was like junior bounty hunter. Four point. You're you're you're going for a little bit of that popcorn popcorn value of like that combined with your your you love the character so you WanNa see what shenanigans they get to week tweets. It's much like much like You know buffy the vampire slayer buffy. Ri- yeah I know that someone's going to double crosser in your class happens is with the care to. That's been for more than one episode. Yeah and so. If someone's like this is my first time you try to really double cross the do with Bhaskar armor like you know will literally. It's worth a lot now. At this point. That could take a shot and you plan to take his baby. It's like Batman. It's like you plan to so that's what I liked me now wins a cat appearance I wouldn't say it's a cameo tate guest appearance yeah I liked you know seeing him. Interact with another bounty hunter. But we interact with other banners before And then Easter eggs. Yeah and so for this was more just like cool cool. It's a it's a story so to me. It's definitely the weakest story But I think overall like to me in some sense like I could love to. We know more star wars movies and I would love to see these different sour shows. Yeah that'd be awesome and I think where they could definitely hit their stride and made me think about them like they're definitely sitting on a pile of of Ip that they can make star wars into a game of thrones star wars into to an MCSE They can make star. Wars into thrones And I think that's actually to me to their benefit do longer episodes but detain episodes or not or you know do six. I mean not. We're not talking mandolin different show for but also like could do that with with another mando with another character great like it could be like the first manned Laurean maybe hour long epic Manda Lor. Yeah and it'd be it'd be it'd be cool. It's definitely like having that week to week and having a TV. Show sensibility. Like I like kit like I'm watching other shows as we speak as well like I'm watching. I'm on the second season now rebels and like it's just literally I like it a lot And there's a lot of things in there that animation gives way to that live. Action can't get away with in vice versa. That like you can't get some of the seriousness animation that you can't get with live action. I think they can get pretty weird with star wars if they wanted to like the way like like Juan Division. Whatever that's going to be I'm like I'm lacking have different genres? They want a character. That's a I don't know if I'm pronouncing twilight to tweet try to. It's the it's the race. That has the long appendages over their head not to be confused. Used with Like a shock as No there's actually down Do I I mean they know painted color or anything. I think the first one you saw was in return. Turn the jet. I was with the the guy who works for the hut with like the big boobs on his head. Yeah the red eyes and those are typically men but the women are you could be like green and blue and also also I was like oh because it was But yeah so should we go into production again then can be absurd. Yeah I have some of the Easter egg drops and and fan theory stuff. I'd like to discuss a little bit as well so we all know everything at the top But the director for this Mr Day Phony best known. Four clone wars or star wars clone wars Star Wars rebels and stars resistance. They're all are also provided by Disney plus and I was looking at all of that The other than Pedro Pascal. We have amy sedaris. Who is best known from Strange Candy Elf and put some boots Jake take a carnival who is best known from nurse. Jackie Romance and cigarettes eat brain and love And me now. When from Mulan agents of Shield End streetfighter as chummy? Yep H only The episode with the credits as well as the stink creek or as the previous this is thirty five minutes but without that about thirty minutes The episode premiered on December Sixteen Nineteen and the tomatoes score since last time we recorded when up five points critically so it's a ninety four percent critics and ninety five for audience. Nice so but you. It's weird you can't read one review you on rotten tomatoes. Why not they're interesting? Google reviews their runs. Aren't there it's crazy. I was looking for it. Run tomatoes as whack anyway inches. Yeah as we say the points made up and yeah I switched favorite parts here. Yeah we've gone through everything else right. Oh brief synopsis of the episode. Oh right so Mando and the baby land on Tattooing Moss Eisley to be a specific Pacific After getting a ship battle which they barely escaped from yeah where he steals his line loved that bit? It's my line. I am a sucker. You'll learn this about Who Your this is your first episode? I am a sucker for the. Let's say something before we kill the bad guy. One liners are like they need to come back more. They need for those of you who are at the top of my list. It is from the thing where the thing roars at Kerr Russell and he says yeah. Fuck you to stick a dynamite. One liners though. Is that like you can't really plan for. WHO's the king? The one liners Schwarzenegger course and he. He says you can never plan for. No but I think there's a half hour video of all of his or something Meted meted I'm doing well tonight. In meted there they are met by a mechanic with three pit droids Played by Amy Sedaris. He pays for the docking fee. But to get it all fixed up. He's going to need more. Money goes into town looking for work where he meets a WanNa be Bounty hunting guild member Pretends to be all cool principal. Cool finds out. It's his first. One smashes the pucks at the Mayo has to use him in order to find the target Who is a legendary legendary assassin who has killed countless people from the guild? Freezing is whoever's gone after it doesn't make until sunrise is there you go and find out why So we go into the Dune Sea of tattooing where we are greeted by a couple of Tuscan asking readers. San People In a very cool moment a barter is made And they get safe passage across where they've met with a sniper which is their target so they wait until nightfall? They both take off on their speeders which are I forget? The actual swoop bikes gives me there by speeders take on the swoop bikes using flares players. To make the the scope was cool. One thing leads to another man who gets shot off his bike. The new guy gets up. There has little sister graphs and the Mendoza sneaks up Ashanti Sneak up on her and they arrest her so They have only one swoop. Bike laughed. Aft So the Mando says I'M GONNA go look for do back after some negotiation. Stay here. She tries to talk the new guy into. Hey let's work together and bring this Mando in. He's betrayed the guild he's worth countless amounts of dollars. You'll be a legend and he says that's a good idea shoots from the gut and rides awesomeness with bike One thing leads is to another do back. Ensues Mando finds the guy there with the baby. Yoga with the mechanic played by stares at gun. Point gets him to drop his gun. He puts his hand behind his back where he mysterious sees that he has a flare very John MacLean style was Shoots the flare dips around. A barrel shoots suits them right in the chest and they take off happily ever after after paying. What looks like a ton of money? Well this covered Yeah the charge extra for babysitting. Yeah and then was very an and I think also I mean. Obviously he's been there more than once. Yeah and they have have a relationship. Yeah so yeah. I think that about sums it up. But Papa boots walking towards the core scrambled screen boots. Sorry so I think that was about ten minutes long Yeah so favorite parts. My absolute favorite parts is is the the Tuscan raiders. The Tha the San People Yeah here's one of the reason is this show has now made them can in Lee sneaky sneaky. Remember when it sneaks up on Luke and at the right in the goggles it happens Again in another everyone else. But now it's cannon that they are just loves Nike is Shit like asking yourself. What the fuck if they're like John turturro character from Mr Deeds. Yeah they were. They weren't like attacking. No no no no no I I think they know what Mandala remembers like to They'll attack a farm boy right And the moment just having that that moment of them like negotiating and it's just a side you don't get to see just Mike that day the stacey themselves as the locals and everybody else's the invader so it's interesting interesting like native American vibes. Barters them safe passage for the binoculars Anyway that was probably top of my list. Right yeah I think my my favorite actually probably when the child. That's the name of Baby Yoda Get Out of the ship because Mando puts it's The baby away and to go do his job but then pally is playing games with the little droid DOTS and also She goes and takes care of the beaten. Dan just kind of like. I don't know good good something with bones and feed the baby a little. You've cared about the barrel and I think that's wonderful. Yeah I liked. Her character was is a really great addition to this show. Yeah again it gave it that very seventy start like new hope vibe. We'll also it's like cool the first first person that doesn't come and attack you. Yeah you know it's like someone that kind of loves you like an older sister would yeah also did you notice when she asks the pit droids should I do it. It one throws his hands up like I don't know when nods and the other one shakes it's great. You guys are a lot of help. Yeah so I I. I liked her and like You know when when everyone with her in at the end the baby yoga like whenever when it comes back and finds out the baby is missing and then he I'm awake and then it starts crying going woke it up. Yeah so it's like it's it that's a that's a fun piece of it you know like a bit of a breath from like the guns blazing which also. I'm sorry I'm GonNa Steal this one Set a good favor department is actually how the episode Starts Very Day. felonious square were in the middle of some sequence Just to get to. And that's kind of the thing with all in line with rebels and clone wars. It's like at the end of the battle. This is where the narrative starts and I like that style because at works really well for TV especially like this. Yeah Attention some most you know shows airline dramas are just like continuation stories. So it's like one giant movie sometimes Depending on turf different directors and show that were how strong the show hold onto it but like with this. It's like cool jazz star in the middle of about because we know I to me. I was actually trying to get the points like. I don't know how good good this mandal oriented is actually. I think he might be just as garbage as jaw as Janko. And he's not a like a like a great warrior but he's on his way I pre- smart. I would say this I think Super Smart. He would best Boba but he may. I have trouble with Django. I would say just cinematic. I just feel like I mean Mace Windu. Everyone dies against Mason Window. palpitation dining like what by you know. May's window yeah so about it the wrong way. I'm just saying but also gender didn't have best car Yasser Sir but I'll also he didn't get shot a lot either and this guy got shot a ton. I think my favorite moment honestly is it's just him landing in the beginning to Mosley like him being like with radio to to the planet to Tattoo enemy. Like yeah we're DOC. Whatever like great? I'm putting in locked into the dock or whatever just. Having that happen was awesome. It was great home and then I really liked their attack. They're like like a told. There's swoop by by smart. This is a really cool encounter where I'm watching you like time these flares to where you know she's got a lineup shot a little different as ever play any shadow the empire not complete on the empire you are this character named Dash Dr. Who's like friends with Han Solo and Luke and all that kind of stuff and it's kind of takes place? If I'm recalling correctly it takes place between like new hope and empire or empire and somewhere in there during right before rich and the and the original trilogy yeah And one of the main things you do is you're on a swoop bike out to meet Luke in the middle of tattooing bikes. I was like oh my gosh dash render must be right for. What are you going to? I was going to say we're going to get apart from the topsy station. Exactly yeah no but it was Yeah Yeah right must have been right after empire strikes back yeah but it Yeah it was cool to see those in action and they like race up with like fell. Really good yeah a lot of youth carbonite. I mean to me that kind of I mean I liked this saying it seeing how they take out a sniper. Because it's like to me it's against pretty rudimentary because I feel like that's like video game this And it's like that's what happens like they can't can't shoot you the Kent C. J. C. You but some things I did like about it was that like how the Manda News. Oh that could only be shot with an M. K. rifle ball blog and like the like we the if we alternate flares. Yeah then also it's like we're gonNA wait till nightfall. It's like cool. He knows what to do. Like I like seeing effective characters like oh he knows what he's doing and he's like yeah this all make sense and so like seeing star wars do that in in this realm it like it feels nice. It's also interesting that like He. I feel like you could have gone for her at any point. Maybe he didn't know there was a bounty on her head until that moment. Well I also don't think he really cared men Lauren. Yeah but also like if someone else has. I don't know if if he would have accepted the mission as well. 'cause I mean this guy has sent tends to find things down here before. They mentioned her yet. Did they in an early echoed. Yeah this is possibly also it's kind of like you know going back to video game logic. It's Kinda like you don't sometimes you don't go for certain missions. Just want to get the other one. That's going to get easier and also get your money money right and like other until the child. He really had no other reason to do anything. Also like I guess the guilt might be not necessarily all connected by like he might. It'd be doing with the local system with Carl weathers plan. It's the current mission set in this exact at like world war. Yeah right so I mean like yeah and and to me again like he doesn't like if obviously it's again a fist hand to hand combat. Feels like you probably would have bested The assassin but then like again. Why would he go for it if they're probably not that much money? Yeah and I don't even think Here to the child neither nearly enough money. Yeah Yeah I wanted to. Yeah I just wanted to check. I want to go back and check the box because this one was ten thousand credits someone who see what what the other ones were. The other ones were still in high but then also like again efficiency right and plus. He probably didn't want to get away too far from his mandatory so I'm also really excited to figure out what Navarro is. Oh sorry yeah I mean obviously it was the main declaring enclave. I wonder what happened there. Yeah where they go favorite another. They say they're GONNA move it. Another favorite part. It's not even a part it's a frame is finally seeing those damn stormtrooper helmets. Oh yeah under the hikes. I'm like God finally yeah Seeing him on the trailer. Yeah yeah but then seeing them in this fill in this episode for finally. It's like how he walks through the city with the K.. And what tattooing thinks of the empire. Yeah so my cool boy luke on his side shits rough but no no navarro or Lewis went. You don't like the when he's talking to the assassin she's saying don't I don't see many men Delorean's round ever and she goes must've survived Navarro or something to that effect so something happened some like mass manned Laurean Orian extinction editor was referring to just the tough tough or whatever that they that she learned. Was that Navarro. That must have been the planet. Possibly all I know I- zags repeated almost verbatim to him All I know is that in rebels. there's still a lot of stipends ends of Manda laurean still around. Yes and the protectors is the one that I recently watched and that section like allied with the empire. Yeah but I don't know what section that this Mendel rings for. So because I thought the same thing when I saw it when when she says Varos and then when she says it to the to the kid it must have been the name of the planet I was like Oh i wonder Oh she must have been referencing that. Yeah you're probably right. Yeah that's probably where that big battle down episode three but I mean to your point. They need to their relocating relocating somewhere. Yeah he's gotTa go back for that for that left thigh mandatory and sound grant Hunter Guild Planet is called Navarro. They're looking up online onto google I thought I saw that and then I saw other ones. Were there like Mandalay. Enclave and I was like what is probably. There's probably commonality with that was there. Yeah and it's true Yes they're in hiding. Yes early so Navarro. Is that planet. Now they've got a now. They've got a nerd on you place. That's always yeah so pretty much yeah. I didn't Survive Navarro as in like do you think circle back with them. We must right. I look I'm not here to talk about future because I get in trouble. Yeah I mean I will say this though. We'll know apparently the the the publicists the PR agency for whoever does this shit Drop the Office for the last episode so out there by I'm reading I'M NOT GONNA I'm not GonNa read it. I'm going to read Any other favorite parts. No I have. I have a lot of favorite parts but they have to do with Easter eggs. That I will talk about at the end of the episode. Won't say well don't let yeah. We'll gush more at the end if we think of things but let's for the episode. Who hurt her name is one hundred percent? Halley pelley earlier came. Yeah I'm a I'm a sucker frame sitters. I first of all I think she's got some some charm some some spark that just I like every character. She's played she had dialogue. I know vis between her but everyone else had dialogue. Not Not that much the other than the other the Mando other than man. What's your name the sniper The actress or the panic. Something like she was cool. I just think of Fox. That's just wasn't there wasn't enough of her and that's one of the things you are not robbed of is sort of like the harsh term to use. But it's just you don't get don't exporting addresses much with this format you get her in two scenes just like a bad person and then which which can be spun to like a good thing. Because like I wanted to learn more about her and what her deal is why she so we might who knows you might judging by that teaser. At the end maybe she forced ghosts. Shots George Lucas August showed up Ted quite gone. John coombs Yeah we must qualms I can start us off STU short uh-huh As to short it's only on Disney Plaza. I don't know I've come across this with a few shows as of late eight or a few things as of late it seems to be mostly TV. But I want reason night. Scenes are not lit. Well enough mark. It's it's very dark and like I'm thinking of just the night scene and specifically the fight between the kid and her when he sneaks up behind her whatever. I turned my lights out when I watched it so it wasn't bad I only lightly. Yeah so I couldn't do that. I watched it on my on my lunch break today. And I didn't have the issue and I would say this. I think that's actually stand because of the push of digital film-making because a lot of people like really dark scenes nowadays like could you can have dark though I feel like with with still a few key lights to like. Get you better edges. That get you that everyone. That guttural thing was putting up my quotation tation fingers because like because I remember when like Blair witch project came out everyone loves just hand held Oh God yeah yes a S- see me fucking cinema verite vertigo or guerrillas shooting wherever the hell it is but a lot like With a film called Collateral Michael Man developed these like lights for shot digital's huge that he did that and people like love that aesthetic in fact about that he made all the light's yellow on purpose because because La was going through transition where they were changing led's and a big part of La at the time was the yellow street lights and so that's also preserved it on film which is pretty cool thing for me like I really don't don't like white. Led look like yellow tungsten hard shadows but a lot of people typically prefer very flat I'm pretty much a minority. I think in that sense I now. I'm with the yeah. I like dimension. Nolan likes high contrast yea hike. which is what you need and so I mean I like that for anything? That's because it to me you. You're setting a tone emotion. Yeah but some people like not saying you're Khuamlo's but like some people just wanna see everything as if it was a sound stage right But Yeah I do agree like if you had like one key light. Just Kinda shot and you had it like flagged off to just show a face. 'cause I mean there's like there's a couple of things famously but one of them that Al never forget is the fast and furious The drag racing the first one the first one okay. There is a massive spotlight end under the street. Oh for sure for no reason like in like within the scene for no reason. Yeah but then you zoom back at a weird like there's like a couple of aerial shots where you see that spotlight even what like you don't do that egregious but like there's a there's there's there's chance to play half with colorful that's thank you wanna see or do you not want to just meet my perfect yet and that's what you value in these rather see it instead of guesstimate. What's happening right Unless it's super intentional. When you can tell it's intentional this if you have issues with right having Intel? When it's intentional is what I think this was? This was a aren't that's a mistake. It's almost a I didn't care for the Writing for the new guilty for Muga. Yeah yeah it felt a little flat and I I I don't want to. I think the actor did fine with what he was given Because that's tough but I. I was disappointed. Flown is usually pretty good but then I realized he writes with other people a lot. I also say alone I mean okay. This is also an argument and a discussion pointed talk about what is Star Wars right as it. Still the children's movies with space wizards or is this something something different because Baloney will the movie Yes but the TV show no it. Wasn't that's not how it's targeted this show. But all the other shows are right and so that's felonious strength is showing showing and it's coming into this and not his strength is kids right not translated. It's very different than how you'd perceive on this because it's like it just seems like yeah. It tells a story across crossbow like with the voice actor and Cor- you know this you amp it up with film you pull it down so like with that kind of writing. If you had Steve Blonde along behind it sounds like you're saying he. His strength is reading animation. Possibly right maybe writing characteristics until this point. I haven't felt that way about the dialogue. And maybe but that's yeah fabra strength is live action dialogue maybe But that character felt very just fell flat for me it was very genera and I think there was a lot of opportunity to make it really interesting. As a character very wanted it to be very landau like his arc is very Orlando until Lando flips back. Once they realize that we don't care about the character at all right and we neither does but he could have had more more that debonair on air kind of charmed and so that actually kind of brings it to my point a little bit about the character. He the character himself as a qualm. Because it kind of does mean a lot when a star is in that role and a few weird to say that where it's like if that character had been woody Harrelson. That would've been a different thing that had been timothy. Charlemagne Anton on Yeltsin a younger kid would have brought there. There would have been some kind of tearing their flavor. Taron Egerton probably. And that's that's a shoe imprint. Very shitty thing to think about and say but star power is a real thing and it does affect how ingesting and the writing better. Yeah and but like the like this characters like Manda has no deal worth to deal with them as a means to an end and then like I just okay so going hearken. Back through shout back throwback to our cowboy bebop episode episode where he took on that little young protege and taught him how to like be like water and fight martial arts and so I suppose dies that to me would have been a little bit nicer because we felt more sympathetic forum and who could have played that role really well and sold it is. Do you know who ben Feldman is now. If you ever seen gene the show superstar no no no no Ben Feldman Ben fell this guy. Oh Yeah Oh yeah. I think he would've brought. Aw that little extra starpower not too much but enough where. He's the kind of actor you immediately care about. Because you've seen him before and you're like like this guy And I think that that is no fault of the actor who was cast at all. I think it is obviously. There's a great opportunity it's everything it's directing. Its writing thing in to me. It's like that's why I say like this. So I think is the weakest one instance because like you count through a character that the whole narrative surrounds this character bringing in narrative to man does the casting wrong I mean possibly I mean like to me like I didn't think certain people can act like Oh you just need a director indicate CAMAC but they just need to pull it out of yeah like oh you can derive this. This guy was a legitimate like he he did fine. But like you're right. You needed that little extra star power to trust this person. There I know him. There is a little subversion and it's done well with camera where like you I see him. He's like sitting at icons like Han on Solos doing. Oh this is kind of cool. Not only at a booth but at Viva Zebu and so for me I would feel like okay. This would be cool if he is more like an asshole all like. Hey you need this money and you take me with you. And then he betrays them and then like never is he had become like Hondas character in Rab- rebels but the kind of cool. Let's make him cool then also to make them sympathetic but then also let's make them like impressionable then. Also it's silly then also let's make like so they did a lot with the character in such a breakneck speed like almost became invisible at that point. Because I've never seen the true. Yeah because you'd kind of don't stick with them at all whereas starpower actor could give you that little seem to me like that's why I would say I mean now. Catcher is much better because you have that I whoa. I don't know who she is. I know what I'm going to get out of. Yeah and also it's like I know what I'm going to get out of it and so when a surprise can happen I feel more gratified for me. Yeah you're right because like especially casting asking someone who I know I'm right as always I'm done. I'm not gonNA feed into that anymore with someone like Ben Feldman who doesn't typically pay a villain having that turn catch you off guard more where his turn. I was like okay. That's who he is now because I don't know who the sectors really yeah but Yeah so that that this whole story kind of really took a weird turn. Funny that I like. I kinda almost wanted it to be more of Pelly babysitting iota. I'd rather have that because if it was just GONNA be Mando go out shoot. Something get caught. She's dead comes back. Nothing happened I think more interesting take on. It could have been to to re to save. That character. Could have been like what you're talking about. Where maybe he's going to betray him decides not to and then he dies saving him I that he shouldn't have betrayed him at all? I mean I'm just saying I'm just throwing idea but I mean like kind of in that same where where it's like it's like hey I'm going to be just like you. Let me know the way. And then the audience or against like how how do you do this. Whereas Best Garner Blah Blah Blah now? Since I think I'M GONNA get that we're going to get the prize my bow and then dies. Maybe like like maybe he could like be certain to commit to like different scenario would be committing to become a mand Laurean like you take him out under maybe like you're kind of like a filming or or maybe if this young bounty hunter has had like a wife and kid and the only reason turnabout hand because he had food on the table but then realize more sympathetic. Yeah one of the other words like either you're Super Dushi. But don't kill him or super sympathetic and then kill him. Yeah so for me. This is if like Mando. Should've woken him them up and Mike work with the struggles of like yeah at he kid going through. Although I liked that moment you have you done totally. Just I don't have any recordings besides that but I it's a pretty big one because the whole episode rides on that. That was the only thing that stood out to me of. I don't enjoy the rest of it. I was like okay. I dig this but having said that it was still cool to get PA- insight from a lawyer perspective until like how you get into what it takes to get into the guild. I do like pressures And I would say also another kind of like a little bit of a boring shot. Selection there is a good shot of A mysterious character going next to the ship and the camera follows her through the legs and it has a really good moment to do a rack focus instead of just cut away and I'm like sparring. Yeah let's stay phony. I guess again over live action. Maybe possibly neither qualms oh renovated part though. Oh Yeah. When he breaks breaks the FOB tell Manda was supposed to be like what the fuck man like? Now it's all my head when you break the puck the choir there was a good way up Bob. He breaks the plot device that the FOB is deep deep. Breaks that but I'm talking about the kid breaks the PUCK. Yeah Oh he does. Yeah the Puck with all the information on the Hologram Cottam. He breaks it and then made us. He's gotTa take with you memorized at all. So if you want that bounty you take me. Yeah no other. Yeah an ball a little bit of Easter Egg nece and then what the fan theories going around are so the first Easter egg that I noticed is that that Cantina obviously is from new. Hope and do you remember the one rule about at that Cantina no droids no droids. And what does it run by Adroit droids so some shit has changed. Yeah you've had droid Mike it's also also and pl- someone out there. Please correct me on this. But I- rebounded and posit a couple of times. I'm pretty sure the droid that pulls up to the Cantina in one of the establishing shots is our five five oh wow def- default which is the one who's in new hope when it's a motivator breaks O. R. Two gets to go with C.. Three PM said Yeah. I'm pretty sure it's that droid because because there was an entirely cannon book that came out that told the story behind that he did that on purpose so that are too could be with three three. Po Book It's worth the read are too is trying to sabotage our five and are like dude. What the fuck are you doing in our to explain to him that he's part of rebellion. He's trying to make sure that he gets picked to go with C. Three Po and then archives. Like look. If I don't get picked I'm going to if I don't have a owner soon. You're not going to shut down so I can't help you out. There are two felt sympathetic. So He's GonNa let him go that's why are just sitting there being like but then I guess overnight in the book I believe it's overnight are five is reflecting on it. And he's like I really loved the passion that are two talked about the rebellion with and what he's doing and so what he does he. Purposefully Springs his motivator to make sure that our two gets picked so he like sacrifices himself the rebellion to make sure that our hero. We didn't need I want to say that and only beeps boop so better. You could do that with wally. I know that was a better than this. I'm not getting AH five four. Who has no fixed motivator? Obviously living the highlife great. I don't know if you guys remember Luke referring to beggars Kenyon at so when she says I do very familiar yes so at the end of the take it out of here. I don't know biggest entertaining biggest brat. That's what it was. And then she calls him along route yet she calls else Milwaukee The other thing and this is one. I actually found online The she's no she's no good to us. Dead is the same exact thing. BOBA FETT SAYS DIVIDER WHEN THEY'RE GONNA freeze them in carbonates. He's he's no good to me dead so I think it was a nice reference on Ted Twain where Boba Fett died right right. What unquote Now the theory theory going around obviously is who has the boots and the Cape who do people think it is and this is not. They're going to say something. This is my theory because it was in the trailer. There's a long Cape I don't know how to say I don't think he had a long Cape. This is my point. Okay okay. There's a long is a long Cape Ki. Goes down to the ankles his command lawrence but his was disorder blades. Yes so my my my point is that it's not Boba. I know I read Giancarlo. ESPOSITO has been shown in the trailers to have have a long Cape that goes down to his saga. So I'm assuming it's him that's my theory again and it's all trailer base. It's not sure what's that I said. Saw Guerrero it's not. It's not forest whittaker I'm not again I'm not. I'm not looking ahead and episodes during my theory becomes a big bad. Because that's what happens in breaking bad spoilers well because he was like Manda Lor I mean that would be really cool. Amanda Laurean or Mandala. You're like he's like one of the Lorne. Because isn't it mandatory. There's one if if that's what I believe he's part of the Empire is a sect of mandatory at join the Empire Right and he was on in a higher. There's some other stuff in the trailers I won't in case people only watch the trailers once I won't go into very much but there's some other information I believe I think if he is in it if it's him I think he's probably empire but we'll see what you see this all just fucking we have point. We're going to start off. I know I know how tom would feel about us. In bobby fit in this. Not your favorite. Oh No to me. I'd be like redemption period. Baby would you be down and to me. Okay Look I love a good good like Setup right like seeing a certain character show up in clone wars like the third season and Showing up in the second season of rebels is really cool and you're like Oh redemption. Because I only saw you'd be a piece of shit in this movies and now you can be cool. Yeah and I would love to see because I think I don't want to not like characters. Yeah I don't like that's a piece of shit character garbage character that's person's car trash like everyone's super dope then it's like. There's so many things you I love about it but then if everyone's garbage and it's like why does everyone fuck has I'll be honest if it is. I will not be upset. No no one. I don't see who would be upset. I would would love a little showdown between both Miller in One like in a world where we're not going to get a Boba Fett movie or whatever like and I would also be fine with Manda Laurean winning that fight. Yeah for sure body fat. This is the man delorean Stein. Not Bogus However I it's unlikely I feel like my Boba I in my in my do something with Boba Fett? I think they're going to save it for a Boba Fett movie or some sort or it might lead into like oh they fight and they don't kill each other and then it leads into a movie or Django his second son. Another clone cool abso. Yeah does awesome. I'm excited for this show. y'All yeah we have Three episodes left. This is like the first cliff-hanger we've had great. It is because most of it just sends with them on a ship like the first episode Tapie Clipping True True. But this is like. Since since the pilot this is the first like non episodic. Well I think I think we're starting to ramp up to awesome hardware store excited for it because again. Three eight total we left right and I think one of them is going to be completely removed from lot really really because of Mike I Forget I have but one of them is like a different writer based on a story. It's like none of the other ones is is based on. It's going to be about the mandal. Maybe hey maybe that's what they mean. That's like from from cannon somewhere from based on the Lego. ooh Oh my God please yeah. Please let me tell the story or something but anyways what do you think do you think. Would you be upset if it was both fat. And do you think the mental or would beat both put your comments below Congress sublime and smash my bike button or you can come join the conversation with some like minded individuals over at our discord at Patriot again and you can learn more patriots that I know. You're not patriotic there. It is and learn a lot more about the show including all the other shows. We have cable Crusaders. We have the note on the PODCAST oppor. We have been heard on update. Check all those shows out and more near dot dot the end while the at us on everything because we like getting out of that make it happen so rings out Ali. You know the drill as always gone doc Indian broadcast.

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What Everyone Needs to Know About Design & The Science of Conversation

Something You Should Know

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What Everyone Needs to Know About Design & The Science of Conversation

"Today on something, you should know a simple way to spend less of the money in your wallet. Then we all need to know a little bit about design for things like websites brochures. What colors work what fonts to us? So fonts are really interesting. There's a great research which showed that when a fought as hard to leave, people thought that mean of attacks tax was difficult. Don't basically I tell clients don't use foncier hard to read then why you should take your blood pressure readings from both arms, not just one and science and conversation, and why conversations on zoom can be so unsatisfying at the end of Zoom Conversation Glover it might be with. You feel exhausted Qui-. because. You're always on attempting to get into rapport with people that sometimes. You can't see all this today on something you should know. Something, you should know fascinating Intel. The world's torment. And practical advice you can use in your life today. somethingyoushouldknow Mike. Hi and welcome to something you should know episode number. I'm not really sure actually. Four hundred and forty something forty, six or forty seven, and it doesn't really matter. We're GONNA start. The program today by helping you keep more of your own money, and it all has to do with the way that the brain conceptualizes cash. This is according to Forbes Dot Com. We know that you're more likely to spend more with a credit card than a debit card, and you're more likely to spend more with a debit card than with cash so just by using cash instead of plastic. You will spend less money, but it gets more interesting than that. The next time you need cash, skip the and go into the bank and ask for new fifty dollar bills why? Because research says you're more willing to spend older bills than newer bills, and you're much more willing to spend smaller denomination bills than larger ones, so skip the plastic and stuff your wallet with new fifty dollar or even one hundred dollar bills and see if you don't keep more of your own money. And that is something you should know. Every one of us you included has had to design something a resume of Flyer, a website, a logo a brochure. And, even if you didn't design it outright, you were asked your opinion, you know here's your website. What do you think this is happened to me I? I don't know how many times in my career and when people ask me. What do you think? Well what I think is. How the Hell would I know? I'm not a designer I. don't really know what to think. Generally when you have a brochure or a website or a logo, you want to present an image, and often you want to motivate people to act or illicit some sort of response but I don't know what works and what doesn't you probably don't either but Susan wine? Chink does Susan Has A. In Psychology, she is the chief behavioral scientist and CEO at a company called the team w INC, and she is also an adjunct professor at the University of Wisconsin She's the author of a book called. Things. Every designer needs to know about people and she has researched what the science says about what motivates people what gets people to gauge respond and what people think when they look at your logo or your brochure or your website? And here she is hi, Susan Hi. How are you doing I'm great? Thanks so to start by telling me a little bit about how you got into this. And what it is, you do when it comes to designing things how people respond to them. Yeah well. You know I have a PhD in psychology and I've had a career in applying psychology to the design of stuff, primarily the design of technology and software and APPS, but really the design of anything I mean I've worked on on how you should change your museum, so people spend more time looking at paintings, but most of my career has been. Whether we know about people, and how should that affect how we design was? I said in the beginning and I think it's true for a lot of people when somebody designed something for us, or we're trying to design something ourselves. Most of us are just going on, but we think our opinion. Gut feeling well. This sort of looks good this this might work, but it's not based in anything other than a really other than opinion, sometimes what may make sense to you and might feel right to you is not necessarily what's going to work for everybody or not necessarily going to work for your particular target audience, so if you can make those decisions, not is based on a gut feeling. We're not just based on your opinion, but you can actually make it based on what the research shows I. You know you have a better product and more effective product for what you're trying to do. So, let's talk about some of the decisions you have to make when you're designing something like if you're doing a web page or a brochure line length, is it better to have the text? Go all the way across, or should you have little chunky paragraphs? It only go part of the way across, and then you have to scroll down more to read it. I I have no idea what what the science says, so, but my, but my gut would be to. That shorter is better. All right so here's what the research shows. Shorter, most people prefer shorter line length they do. However the research shows that you actually read faster. With a longer line light, and and you can count is called characters per line. A hundred characters per line which I can tell you as a really lot. If if I showed you a page of text that had one hundred characters per line. You'd say to me, Oh. My God nobody's GonNa read that, but hundred characters per line is actually increases reading speed. However when you're you know when you're doing a webpage like. Do you really care that? Someone finishes reading that text in like two seconds faster than than not know because preference is important, because if I look at the screen. And say Oh my God that's too much test text I'm not GonNa read it at all right. You don't want that, so this is a case. And there are several of these cases where there's a preference versus performance, and in this case this most of the time I say to people go with what they prefer. So what are the things that we know work in terms of pulling people in and getting them interested in drawing them in and what are the things that don't work? You know one of the really interesting things. There's too. Too I WANNA. Talk about they're both visual. One is what's called the fuse of form facial area. They FFA. So you have a particular place in your brain sexually deep in your mid brain that is sensitive to faces, so it works largely unconsciously so when you see a face, and that's loosely defined yet looks like two is a nose, no mouth when you see a face, it grabs our attention automatically on consciously, and so especially faces is large enough that you really see it that this face and if the person is looking straight out. At you from the page so anytime you GonNa you grab people's attention. Have have a face and how that person looking right out at you. Also we know that if that faces showing a lot of emotion doesn't even matter whether it's positive or negative doesn't matter if they look happy or fearful, but is just a high emotion that will grab attention, so that's something that will grab attention now. The other thing that I think is really interesting about vision is we really don't understand we don't get enough. Credence to peripheral vision, so you have two kinds of issues. You have the vision when you're looking straight ahead. And that's called Central Vision, but when you are looking straight ahead, there's you can see things out from the corner of Your Eyes. You actually don't see them very clearly, but the research shows us that things in your personal vision have a huge effect on. You will use our personal vision to get emotional information in so if there's a image in the personal vision that you know is scary or Has a high emotion that will grab our attention and make us stay on that page, and also will use our personal vision to tell us whether we're in the right spot, so imagine you're at a restaurant website and you know you're looking straight ahead at the menu in the middle, but it on the sides. There's like pictures of food that unconsciously says Oh. Yeah, I'm on the right page. Page. I WANNA stay here. You know in terms of grabbing attention you WANNA use faces. You want to do something. Don't forget the peripheral vision look at a lot of websites. There's nothing in peripheral vision, the outskirts of the screener, all blank white right. They're not using not using that space to its best advantage, there has long been a phrase that sex selves does the Science back that up? Sex Cells. Research shows I mean I. Not saying that that means you should use that because the other thing obviously that you have to be concerned about is how does that affect your brand? And who does that annoy or who finds it offensive, but from a purely scientific point of view we, we have part of our brain. Called the old brain or the reptilian brain. It's part of our brain. That evolved longest ago. Basically that part of the brain is asking. Can I eat it? Can I have sex with it? Will kill me and because. That's such a strong on conscious filter. It means that we are extremely sensitive to images of food because that's the easy part. Any images of danger something horrible happening you know, a fire flood accident, and then also anything that is gives us an idea of sex. Is it that sex sells or sex? JUST GETS ATTENTION! So sex gets attention. The other thing that happens though you know in psychology, we talk about a heightened state of arousal and we don't mean that sexually. We mean that in any way, so if there's anything that gets your heart rate going you may. There's always like video ads on online or on on TV where the you know, there's like a almost a car accident, and then you find out that they're selling soda. You know doesn't have any. Do the car and route and the goal. There is just get your heart rate up. Because if they get your heart rate up, then you pay attention and the message sticks. We're talking today about how to design things what works what motivates people what what people like to see and we're talking with Susan Wine Chink her. And we're talking with Susan Wine Chink. The name of her book is one hundred things. Every designer needs to know about people. So Susan one of the first things. People think about when they sit down to design. A Web page or a brochure or whatever it is that they're this designing one of the first things they consider is color and font. So can you talk about those so fonts are really interesting first of all, we've been debating funds for literally hundreds of years, and basically these days especially, if you're talking about screens and mobile devices most font as long as it's not overly decorative, most font. Are Readable. People often have a preference for one font or another by that's a very individual preference, however, when the font gets so strange or decorative or to towel size when it gets a very hard to read a couple of things happen, there's a great research done which showed that when a font was hard to read, people thought. The meaning of the text was difficult, so a the example. The research I I really like is they gave people. Instructions for doing physical therapy exercises at home. Right so you go. The physical therapist yet were problem with your back. They exercises you. Go home and do them so for half of the people. They gave them the instructions in a font. That was very easy to read. On for the other half, they gave the instructions in a font that was kind of decorative, and it was harder to read. It wasn't impossible, but it was a little harder. And what they found was two things one was. If. The font was hard to read. People estimated that they asked people how long we'll take you to do these exercises when you get home. When the phone was hard to read, they estimated twice as long. As when the font was easy to read twice as long, they thought it would take them to do the exercise. And then they followed up and found that the people at the hard to read font were half as likely to actually do the exercises when they got home. So hard to read equals hard to do now, but here's something also a really other interesting set of findings about font I don't know if you've heard about system, one and system to thinking and we have a way of thinking that's really easy and intuitive, and then we have another way of thinking where we're thinking really hard concentrating. But when a font is hard to read, it triggers system to thinking. You you automatically unconsciously say Oh, this must be hard, but it sometimes especially, if it's in a learning situation that means you work harder added. You pay more attention to it. You say to yourself. Oh! I can't just skate by on this like this would be especially true if you were studying. If you're a student the research shows that students who had reading material all semester in a font that was harder to read actually worked harder spent more time and got better. It's hard material longer, but it was probably because they looked at it and said Oh man this is this is going to be tougher than I thought I'd better pay more attention and spend more time. So Yeah, it's so interesting things so. I tell clients don't use fonts that are hard to read you know. Make it easy to read especially. If you're doing something like a Berkshire website, you wanted to be inviting. Now in terms of collar color is. Again very individual. And as a lot to do with your brand, but what we know about caller is that if you use too many colors at the same time, then you lose the election again getting affect so the most attention getting like if you had if you had a web page and It was a sign up form, and all you wanted people to do is click on this one button like that was the most important thing on the page then you shouldn't have any other color anywhere. No color no color in images, no caller in the tax and then you just have the one bright button. 'cause that'll grab the most attention. But, in terms of what are there any colors that like you would never use because the science says this is just this makes people's. The science says you should not use in terms of specially you know foreground background like the font on words on top of background color. You should never get gotta be really careful that you have enough contrast if you use like a medium gray letters on a medium blue background than it's just hard to read, you also don't want to use red and blue. Or Red and green like red letters on a green background or read letters on a blue background or reverse that because that calls you on a fancy term is called Chroma, Stereo, APSIS and it actually causes the letters to look like they're vibrating, so that's particularly bad combination to use Yeah, otherwise you gotta pay attention to color meanings, which which are are cultural in nature. You know so. White. The in some cultures white is the yameen sterile, clean or white is what you know. Brides wear the wedding and other cultures. White is what you wear to a funeral. Some cultures red means you know lucky and happy, and another cultures red means stop and danger right, so you need to be careful based on the culture designing for as well. When you're designing something. Website Logo Brochure? Whatever you basically a creative function that you're performing? And, sometimes just getting started like where do is if you say to somebody okay, we're going to create a website well. God Jeez I don't what should that look? I don't even know where to begin. What about the creative process to kind of spur things on and and get people going when they have to basically create something from scratch? Creativity is amazing and the renew research on creativity shows us that there's three. Brain, networks that are involved in creativity and basically. What you do, if went any whenever you're thinking creatively solving a problem. You the best thinks to do our to concentrate on what it is. You're trying to create, or what the problem you wanNA solve. And that engages the first of the of the networks called the executive attention network. Then what you need to do is drop. It is go away. Do something else preferably something that does not require you to think much at all. So you need to give that part of your brain arrests like Gopher Walker work in the garden or you know anything so as long as you're not thinking that gives another part of your brain called the imagination network. Time to. Go through all the scenarios and check everything you know, and that's all happening unconsciously. then. We've all had this right. If you ever like you know our later a day later, you go, oh! I know I should do right. Have that ha moment? Well? That's the third brain network which is called the salient network. It is constantly monitoring what the imagination network is doing, and when it finds, an idea thinks is particularly good. It brings into consciousness and that's really how. How anytime you're being creative. You're going through that process whether you realize it or not, and there's things that you can do to help that process along right like. Like thinking of something very clearly, and then letting it go. And then you. We also know that sleep is important for that process. Even, a nap will help that process. So I I'm really fascinated with what's going on in the brain. When we're being creative I, know you say that using examples is always helpful in trying to motivate people, and it's very easy when you're trying to explain something to get very very abstract in and not be specific and not use examples. Yeah, you got to be concrete. You know we. We're pretty good. It abstract thinking but it. It really is hard work to think abstractly is hard work, so we have evolved to Tan the like to make quick decisions and be able to process information really quickly and examples allow us to do that and they allow us to tie what you're talking about. Tie It to something we already know, and that's very helpful, so yeah anytime. You're trying to get across information or teach someone something. Giving an example is really the best way to go, and if you know if it's appropriate and possible of visual examples great. Let's talk about what motivates people because I think people have opinions and some common practices that they think motivates people, but when you're designing something I mean W-. What do we know? What is the science? Say about what motivates and what doesn't. Yeah if you said Oh. I want people to use my product more. My service more than that you know. How can I do that a lot of times? People say oh. We'll reward them right if they get. Friends could join and give them you know extra something. We think of rewards as being a a really great motivator, and in is sometimes a good motivator. It's especially good. Good with dogs and and toddlers, but there are many more powerful ways to motivate people to take action for instance. One of my favorites is the idea of the self story, so we all have stories about who we are, and why we do the things that we do, and if you can connect your product or service to someone's self story, where if you can help them? Decide to change their self story. That's when you get the really. Deep meaningful. Motivational Change, so give me an example of of the self story of changing someone self story. How would that work? Let's say that I'm someone who has always used apple products. You know I have an Iphone I love my iphone. I have an apple laptop and you are interested in seeing if I will switch to android switch to android phone than I am very resistant because myself, story is that I'm an apostle person. But if you can get me to take a small step a small if you can give me to try and android fun if you can show me something cool that you can do their android fund that I can't do with my iphone. Then, you might be able to make a slight crack, and that's all story, and instead of me thinking of Oh. I'm an apple person. Maybe you can get me to think Oh, I'm a person who likes some of the new technology I'm a person that's open to ideas and then I might be willing to start to change, so you've got to think about. What is the operating self story and speak to that? Well I certainly know a lot more now than I did twenty minutes ago about design what motivates people and what gets them to respond and what doesn't work so I appreciate that Susan? Wine Chink has been my guest and the name of her book is one hundred things. Every designer needs to know about people. You'll find a link to that book in the show notes. Thank Susan Mike It's been great to talk to you, thanks. Every day you engage in conversation with people likely without giving it a whole lot of thought to how it works or how to make it better or how to be a more effective conversationalist. In fact, though there's a lot to it, how people speak to each other has been studied a lot, and there's some interesting science to how conversation works. Here to explain and discuss, it is David Crystal David is a writer editor, lecturer and broadcaster who has written or edited one hundred books. Is. Latest book is Let's Talk. How English conversation works. I David Welcome to something you should know. It's a pleasure. Mike Nice to see what's interesting when you think about it. How important conversation is to everyone I mean that's how we communicate with the world. That's how we present ourselves. We we engage in conversation and yet. I. Never got any formal training and here's how you have a conversation. Yeah, I think that's right I mean take the basic principle of conversation which is turned taking I speak then you speak than I. Speak then you speak, and of course you can overlap a little bit, and that can be interruptions and things, but on the whole. That's the basis of it all now. When does that start well? People have studied the development of communication in infants, and I mean over the first year of life have established that that turn taking principle is there from about three months. Oh of age you notice it when a mum for instance is feeding her little Baba. And while the. Food is being prepared. The mummers chattering away Oh. You're hungry. Yes, I know you well. Wait a minute. It's coming. It's coming and so. When the food is in the mouth whether it's a t tour, bottle or whatever it might be. Then, the bump shuts up. and. There's no sound and then out comes the bottle, and the baby gets wind it in some way and this chatter chatter chatter by the mum, and if the baby then makes a noise like a bird or something like that well, that's equivalent to a whole sentence really. Gets a reaction by the mother. And slowly there is a kind of to-ing and fro-ing, and to and froing. It's basis of interaction and it starts back young. It's always fascinated me how there are some people who are just brilliant conversationalist in the sense that they they hold your attention that that that you know like every word is right where it needs to be, and then there are people on the other end of the spectrum. Who just I mean it. They just bore the death idea. And and I wonder why. Because I'm sure they both think they're doing a pretty good job. And one is got it and the other one has totally missed it. To Be a good speaker you've got to be a good listener can be a ball very very quickly. If you do all the talking there's a lovely story and I can't remember the source of it now. where somebody said next to nothing in the course of this conversation. And afterwards the person he was talking to was observed to say he's. He's really good conversationalist, even though he'd said hardly anything at all because he was listening all the time. Has To be a balance I think if if people are astute listeners as well as quite competent speakers, they somehow are the develop a kind of rapport between themselves, so there's a balanced amount of compensation. You know you and I speaking together. We roughly at the end of the day. Say roughly the same amount to each other, and then we both feel the compensation has been a success. People who. Are Good at compensation I think. Move towards that goal. People who find it difficult to converse while they're in a kind of a downward spiral out they and When the other person senses that they're speaking to somebody who isn't so good at compensation well, they then tend to try to make up for that lack by speaking more, which puts the other person and even worse position, and so he goes on. I think it's the circumstances as much as the personality that's involved in. There does seem though to be some tactics or strategies at a I can hear it in the way you talk I haven't heard you say I'm or Once. I hear people those conversations with people that go. Well the The. Part of the thing that And I WANNA I WANNA scream. You scream when somebody does something. Too Much when they overuse a particular word, even all grammatical construction of sound of hesitation noise. As you mentioned just then, I can make you hate any word in the English language by over using it. You know tall really I can I really really. Really. Really an as soon as I do it more than four or five time just about to scream onto, and it's the same hesitation on these filler phrases as they called the these comment clauses as the grammarians called them like you know you see I. Mean Mind You. They say nothing, but on the other hand they have a very important role in conversation. Is They? Give you time to think if I? If you ask me, a hard question might say well, you know that gives me a moment to think of what I'm GONNA say next. Sometimes being called the oil that makes a conversation grove smoothly, if used judiciously, but if they not, if somebody over uses them of the worst examples of course of the politicians who you ask, a straight question of minister, and the minister says well you see I. Mean like you know an and of course you re not turn. It really gets your backup. But in everyday life, yeah, there are some people who, for whatever personality reason or because they. Haven't got anything to say or because they lack control the subject matter whatever it might be. They overuse a they rely on these FYLLAS, these hesitation noises, and so on, and the conversation becomes very awkward very difficult to continue. How do you solve that situation well, you have to do to analyze it a little bit. I'm one of the things that turns out is that? If the two people in the. Don't share the same background. Don't have the same access to the topic of the conversation. Then the person who hasn't is in a very difficult position. Indeed, that's crucial. That's one of the basic principles of conversation that we both bring something to the conversation, and if one person doesn't really have anything to say, then, of course, you're going to get the situation that you mentioned. I've always thought and you studied this A. You would know better, but I've always thought that there are a lot of people who use those and is and you knows. Kinda slow things down to to try to sound. Smarter or to explain things better. Academics I think do this sometimes where they throw in a lot of arms, and is and to to kind of sound more professorial, you know and I don't think that as a listener, people generally find it helpful, but that's why people do it. It's not just those phases either I've noticed this, too. As the so called academics stutter. Come across that. You asked me a question I go well I. I, think so. You get this kind of false stutter. You mentioned that that that was one of the basic principles of conversation. What are some of the others? Probably the most important is the phenomenon of simultaneous feedback. Now. This is not something that we rely strating in this podcast dialogue because it's not something on the whole, the people online do, but in face to face conversation. It's the all time. What do I mean by simultaneous feedback? I mean that while I'm talking. my listener is simultaneously feeding with all kinds of reactions to show how I'm doing the saying things like. Yeah Yeah. yeah hung no really. Yeah Yeah Yeah and so on. Now you have to have those. And there's an easy experiment that anybody can do to show. How important the? If you having a conversation with somebody and I suggest somebody you know well, not your boss or something like that. Then at a certain point in the conversation when you both speaking quite fluently, stop the feedback. Simply don't do it. Just shut up. Just stare at the floor. Just look at the person do nothing. The other person will not be able to continue the conversation. They will look at you and say he's sorry. David I. You're right, you're right. Hello. Have I, said something to offend. You are puzzled by the lack of simultaneous feedback. This is absolutely crucial critical to the success of a conversation, and that's why for those people who have spent a lot of time over the last few months in forums like zoom and the other strategies that you have to keep compensation going. They find it difficult. Every so many people have told me and I feel felt myself at the end of Zoom conversation whoever it might be with business associates, your friends family. You feel tired, you you. You feel a bit exhausted. Why because you're always on? You're always the attempting to get into rapport with people. Can't see and even if you can see them, there are too many people sometimes in the gallery view to me that you can make report with any of them. And then not giving you the feedback, because even if they were the lag between the time you speak in the time, they go hunt. Can Be enough to mean that it's just doesn't turn up at the appropriate time. And so all of this means that lack of simultaneous feedback results in compensation that is. Valuable, because it's keeping us in touch with people, but it nonetheless is artificial, and so to transfer that back to the face to face situation turns out to be one of the most critical factors in keeping a successful conversation going. While, I wonder if this becomes the new norm. If we're going to have to somehow adjust to that, because that may just be how group meetings get conducted if it does become a kind of new normal, but going to have to develop much more sophisticated strategies. To. Make sure that the conversation goes smoothly I. What do I mean by that? Well, for example, turn taking. Probably anybody who's been an zoom room has had this experience sitting sitting in front of your computer and on the the screen I'll say three or four people. You. Say something you ask a question well. Who's going to respond I? If they haven't UN muted if they haven't muted their microphones there all the Reggie to come in now, what's GonNa Happen? They're gonNA. Have People Speaking Cetane that happens, and then people don't quite know who to defer to. Or, are you going to develop a strategy like I'm going to raise my hand? And then it means I want to speak next or going to take my hat off or something like that. People have devised all kinds of ingenious ways of handling this, but at the moment, because we lack experience of how to do it it always a Beta artificial, and and a bit difficult, and I've lost track of the number of times compensations. I've been involved with the on on A. Pro System like zoom. Have simply broken down. Everybody suddenly stopped stalking and nobody quite knows whether it's their turn to speak next, and if they do then, how long should they wait and all of these difficulties? You know they all come in. It would seem that. Really. Every conversation has the potential. To take a wrong turn to turn into an argument or to to deteriorate in some way, if we're not careful and I know you. Have you talk about the strategies that we tend to use to keep a conversation pleasant to keep it going to keep it moving forward. Interestingly, these are all strategies that people. Have kind of mythical view about I'll give you two examples might. One is. Pretty, as a question, why do you laugh? And the answer is. People will say because you've said something funny. Well, no, that is not why we love in compensations. You might say something funny and get a laugh, but usually the laughter that turns up in the conversation is much more sympathetic. Laugh an empathic laugh I'm. Agreeing with you or something like that, and if you're trying to defuse potentially difficult situation, then wannabe things you can do is introduce kind of empathic, giggle or chuckle. Gesture vocal friendliness to to help the conversation. Get back on track. Another example is interruption. Interruptions get terribly bad press. You know you go online and type interruption in the style guide say never interrupted bad to interrupt well. That's the argument concept of interruption if I'm making a serious point to you and you interrupt me then I feel threatened then I feel. That I had the chance to say what I wanted to say. The and the interruption itself fuels the argument. But in everyday compensation of a kind of informal type. Interruptions there all the time and they're actually appreciated. Because the purpose of the interruption is to help the speaker move onto another point or to add something to the speak has just said in a friendly kind of way. The you interrupt and you say yes, because that's that's what so and so said as well, and the first speaker says yes. I hadn't thought about that Oh. Indeed he did so that kind of interruption is the norm in everyday compensation, and it's positing not a negative thing. And so I was GONNA. Ask you can I have a couple more because those are really good strategies that people probably do them anyway and don't necessarily realize what they're doing, but it's. It's interesting to shine a light on it like this, so if you have some others I'd love to hear him. Let me, give you an example of something from the beginning of a conversation and something at the end. How do you stop to compensation? One of the first things you have to agree? Greet each other. And so something that people don't usually realize what's the difference between the various kinds of greeting and various kinds of farewell. Take Good morning you say good morning, somebody morning, or whatever the phrases that you like to use most and at the end of the end of the day or or when you're leaving something, you might say good night night. Good night all goodbye. You might say hello and goodbye good morning and good night, but a lot of these peds strategies. What's the difference between them? Will the difference is this? That when you greeting somebody you express the greeting to an individual person just wants. If I see you in the morning, Mike? Can I make you for the first time I take morning you morning David. And we get on with our day five minutes later I go back into the room and you're still there now. I don't say morning Mike a second time. If I, did you look very oddly you'd think. Didn't you see me the first time what what's going on? Indeed if I realized that I I've said it a second time I might even apologize and my house. Sorry Mike. Say Good morning to you already haven't i. Now fast forward to the end of the day. I'm leaving your office I say. Can I might an off I go? Oh, forgotten my bag. I go back into the office. I picked up my bag. I see you again, say goodnight Mike. I say the second time, and that's fine. No problem. Indeed I can say as many times I like nine. Go and so and some people do that when they're leaving a friend, so the difference between good morning and good nights or hello and goodbye. Something that people don't really realize until it's pointed out to them, and their most just pointed out and say oh. Yeah, because I knew that. I think when you look at conversations. One of the sloppiest parts of of lots of conversations is the ending it. There's no often neat way to end it well. Yeah, good to see. Though. We noticed it online. If you're having a chat with somebody, how do you end the? More difficult than beginning the chat, isn't it? No, so you sitting in your dining room with? You and your partner and a couple of visitors have come to meet you and you've been. You've had dinner. You're there all evening and you've been chatting away. Todd partners. They visited say it's time to leave, so they say. Oh, we look watch or something and they say oh, really must be going. Time to go. They don't go. At the point. The then you then carry on a conversation for certain period of time, a few minutes may be a bit longer, and then they look waterguns Lo, look I really must go, and at that point, everybody is allowed to stand up and the person. The people leave the room with appropriate farewells, and so on and so forth. Don't teach how strange it would be. If the very first time somebody says looking at they watch I. Really Miss Go. The host says okay. Fine up the get, and you go out wouldn't happen or if it did, it would be a very strange situation indeed. So, we have these unconscious strategies about how to end in a polite comfortable sort of way. That's another example. There have been people in my life and I'm sure everyone or Yeah I'm sure everyone's had this experience where they're just certain people that you really like talking to because they make you feel smart and I've tried to sort of figure out what it is. They're doing to make me feel so smart and make me feel like I really contributed to the conversation and I guess it's many of the things that you've been talking about, but. I still think there's some. There's some kind of June Sekwa I haven't been able to figure it out that there are just some people. people have said that former President Clinton used to Ha- or has this ability that that they make you feel so special. And I don't know what it is, do you? Well. Personality aside. One absolutely cast iron strategy to develop that kind of feeling is. You talk about the person you're talking to not about yourself. I talk about you about you. Don't need a casual sort of how you kind of situation but you keep you keep asking about the other person about their interests about what it is, and occasionally of course referring back to yourself, Oh, to some other circumstance, but the more you ask about the other person. The more the other person feels that you're a really nice guy now if both people are doing this, then both people end up happy because I asked about you Mike about your background, and and everything and things like that. And you think oh hi. Everybody wants to talk about themselves. You See and so I'm giving you the chance to talk about yourself. And then you do the same to me and do we ask each other how things are going and how? How is the lockdown for you and things like that? And so long as each person is eliciting information about the other. Everything's going well. You become a bowl if you elicit information only about yourself. Well it is interesting to pause and take a look at conversation. 'cause it something all of us do all the time without really examining how it functions how it works and and how to make it better. David Crystal has been my guest. He's a writer editor lecturer and he has written or edited over a hundred books is latest. Book is called Let's Talk. How English Conversation Works and there is a link to that book in the show notes for this episode. Hey, thanks for being here, David. Well thanks Mike. That's been a really interesting. Chop thanks for your interest. 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