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The Ocho: Cowboys/49ers Postgame Show

Blogging the Boys

19:00 min | 1 year ago

The Ocho: Cowboys/49ers Postgame Show

"Nona what up world welcome to another episode of the ocho presented to you in partnership chip is always nations blogging. The boys dot com. My name are joe me of course from b._t. Be an from writer humble host on the ocho. It is sunday sunday august eleventh two thousand nineteen and we are coming at you in the wee hours of the morning the dallas cowboys i up twenty three contests is that they will play. This season is officially in the books. That's right twenty three. You know why who the cowboys obviously go nineteen zero to win super bowl fifty four four preseason games james nineteen plus four shots in my calculus teacher in high school mr mash twenty-three <hes> the cowboys first preseason game officially ended late late late late on saturday eighty nine in san francisco against the forty niners. They lost seventeen to nine. If you care about winning and losing in the preseason and spoiler alert you should not aunt but the cowboys there's lots of gleaned from this and a lot to talk about and that's exactly why we are here <hes> first of all kind of set the table. This is kind of what you should expect throughout the rest so the season obviously we've adjusted the show. We don't do the livestream anymore so you should expect a podcast right here in your feed you know shortly after cowboys games. Send an obviously after other big time things and every day you get an episode of the show we also have episodes of the 750 bruising the boys and talking to start coming your away as well in your blog on the voice podcast feed. Make sure you subscribe wherever you get your podcast with a apple google. Play spotify were everywhere. You don't wanna miss an episode. Oh you get at least one cowboy centered podcast every single day and as it is officially football season. I know that you want that. If you get a chance after you subscribe give us a rating review those things help us out but but yeah so look we watched the dallas cowboys play a football game and that's really cool. I know it was really boring. I know they didn't score a touchdown but ultimately it was a lot of fun. I had a lot of fun at least and part of the joy honestly of the preseason and say joy very very loosely. I don't think my wife finds it to be joyce. Think a lot of people's wives husbands find that'd be joyce. The game goes to like midnight. I mean you know that hasn't happened a lot because because of the timing of starts at eight o'clock central time next week's game we'll start at nine o'clock central time as the cowboys rams plan hawaii but it's fun it just it has a preseason vibe to it and amazingly we saw dak prescott start the game for the cowboys. We saw travis frederick play football again which was really really really cool. We assam go gals. Get off to a great start. Dak prescott ultimately poetically went four for four twenty three yards and had one moment where i think everybody kind of held their breath. Dak prescott had a pass tipped at the line of scrimmage in jumped up and caught deck. Dude don't gotta do that. You know it's the preseason is in dacca me and just be cool man. Just let's let's be cool. I know that you know you react or react and you can't really control that and i'm really just kind of joking but dakhla great and i i think the first team offense whatever you want to refer to it as obviously the entire first team no jason window amari cooper knows the guy it so on and so forth the first team offense moved the ball and and <hes> settled for a field goal which was good because it gave britain mar a chance to kick a field goal and a lot of cowboys fans really pumped about that so good for the cowboys is that the first team offense looked all right and dak prescott guide his time and that was that tony pollard i mentioned dak was four four tony pollard also had a four involved he had four carries on the night for sixteen yards led to cowboys running backs in terms of yards per carry average four yards per carry carrie. Tony pollard did and look. We're going over stance but stats really mean nothing in the preseason. It's about what you saw. It's about how they loved. It's about the effort. It's about you know things. He's like that and tony pollard was as advertised. I think that's the most important thing to take away from the preseason. Tony pollard looked like a versatile running back. We've heard lots of people compare him to alvin kamara of the new orleans saints. I wouldn't go that far but he looked like that type of player. He looked like a guy who can get in space and create some damage and that's what you wanted to you. See from tony pollard in the preseason before things get serious as far as other runners for the cowboys. I mean there is jackson had some moments. I think where you thought yeah yeah. This is the guy this is the guy that you know we stood for. You know we stand for you know. I mean this is. This is radius another name. This is the guy hi there. Were some moments like that for for jackson but other than that you know mike weber was not impressive. Especially in terms of blocking jordan orange china was not impressive and so it was kind of a flat night for them and i think a lot of that had to do in we'll get to mike white and a little bit but with the cowboys sort of secondary and thirteen eighteen offensive line's mitch hyatt. We all have thought oh if there's one undrafted free agent making the team. It's mitch hiatt. Many people have already put them on their fifty. Three man rosters obviously the all pro. I'll pro gracious. The great offensive lineman clinton the american. I should say i i mean everybody had this guy you know as being the next great fine for the copies along the offensive line and you forget that part of the reason that guy was put together these great offensive lineman and is there all first round draft picks in terms of tyrant and zach and travis and lyle should have been mitch hiatt. I think we all had a moment. You know hunts on saturday. You said maybe that's why he went undrafted. Mitch was bad. I wrote it'll be out very early sunday morning. If you are somehow listening to this in the middle of the night in having gotten to that point in time but <hes> very early sunday morning i have five winners and losers coming out from the game at blogging the boys dot com and mitch high. It was one one of my losers. I mean really just a bad night from each hyatt. <hes> and i think are really. Perhaps you know. The biggest disappointment in terms of expectations falling are the biggest your what i'm saying i mean mitch was really high and a lot of people's books before the game in san francisco and now i mean goodness gracious he had the largest room to fall is really the point. I'm trying to make mike white had a bad game and again. We will get to him but it's now. I people thought mike white was gonna set the world on fire. Mitch hired had a really really really bad game and so hopefully that gets better because yes again. I think there's reason to believe that he's worth keeping on the fifty three man roster but we don't know exactly how the cowboys are obviously going to handle that given given the way the first four preseason games go. 'cause you know you never know that's what the rest of the contests are forced. Mitch had a bad night. I thought michael gal looked great. I know we're kind of jumping all all over the place here but i thought michael gallup looked really good. Only had two catches <hes>. We'll use targeted twice for nineteen yards with michael. Good had a big pass interference penalty. The droop nope michael. Gal looks like you know we talked about this at training camp in oxnard. He looks like he's going to be a superstar. This year like he's gonna take league. He's going to be a legitimate secondary wide receiver opposite of amari cooper so michael gob looks great. I think he had the best game per snap. If that makes sense <hes> michael gal looked flawless. Actually actually i take that back. I think the best game and obviously one of my winners in the article iro was blake. Darwin blake john without question had the best game of of the night in san francisco for the dallas cowboys believed darwin ultimately only had four catches off of five targets. I mean so good for good for him but but blake darwin had fifty one yards second on the team only devon smith who had fifty four yards fifty one yards for blamed darwin where they long reception of thirty three. I think that it must be said and it must be acknowledged. The ablaze darwin is a legitimate middle of the field threat for the cowboys. Doc prescott is going to have blake jar leon and he cannot get swept under the rug. The jason wouldn't it because it's going to be easy obviously to assume adjacent jason was going to get all these snaps knelt. Blake jar is for real. This isn't just some sort of albatross that happened in new york at the end of last season blake. Darwin is legit averaged average twelve point eight yards per reception. I mean that's legit dude. I mean that's amazing so blake jar win. I think <hes> the guy's gonna be a stud this year so i i want to think had the best game we might as well talk about it mike white. What on earth did we watch. Mike white had without a question and is the quarterback he's quarterback so you know this is this is part of it but mike whitehead the worst game of any dallas cowboys player mitch hide included out in san different cisco finish nine of twenty eighty seven yards with sex three times to my quiet credit or in his defense again playing behind some offensive lines finds that don't include tyron smith and zack martin and everybody else i mean it's a lot harder at that point but mike why you gotta find a way man you gotta find a way you know mike why is in competition with cooper rush rush for the secondary quarterback spot on the cowboys roster. They're probably only going to carry two quarterbacks and mike white did a whole hell of a lot to prove it should not be him and and the thing was was cooper. Super rush didn't exactly have the best game of his life. I mean everybody remembers the preseason that he had two years ago but after the game the way mike white played left you feeling like do the cooper is awesome. I mean i would take cooper one hundred times out of one hundred times instead of mike why mike had a fumble just held onto the ball too long. I mean just looked. Indecisive looked shaky and looked frazzled. I mean it was it was strange. I mean you know we. We obviously haven't seen a lot from my quiet now only his second season but i mean i feel like we've seen a more functional quarterback than we saw in san francisco. It was a bad night for mike white and i think he really set himself back. He's going to have to really have just an incredible rest of the preseason and he's not going to necessarily have a whole lot of time to do it because obviously dak prescott is going to get his time in the third preseason season game i mean i don't know that mike white can can do what he can in half against the rams in honolulu and you know in the fourth preseason game that nobody really cares about. I don't know that that's enough. I really don't i mean at this point. I would give cooper rush sort of an eighty five to eighty seven percent chance to be prescott backed up for the third year in a row <hes> but my goodness man mike white dude what happened <hes> and so we had a lot of fun on twitter obviously and and by the way i love you know the seasons being back because it's fun to be on twitter and experiences with a whole bunch of people and we had a tweet on the blog on the boys twitter account after the game. Who do you trust more at this point. Mike white or brett maher mar was three or four on field goals in san francisco and yeah yeah <hes> you think about it and you say three or four and you know if if justin tucker went three or four on a random november sunday. I don't think anybody's batting. I and i don't even mean injustice integra. You know if here's him butger went three or four on a random sunday in october. Nobody's really bad tonight. That's a pretty solid at the office but brett mars at a point. Where do you have to really impress. You have to absolutely impress you have to be perfect because people are already shaky about you and and three or four that's kinda who brett maher is he's gonna make some some gimmes and then he's gonna miss. Some some super. Easy kicks just left wondering like do what happened. Why did you miss. This brett brett maher. I think we all agree. There needs to be competition for the cowboys cannot just hand him this job as their kicker they can't you do you think about this. I mean so many games in the n._f._l. Down to one possession of the sixteen games of the cowboys played last season thirteen of them decided by one score. You're talking about thirteen of sixteen games ames decided by one score. The cowboys were fortunate after they won nine of them but think about it and think about it carefully in detail the cowboys beat the lines on a last second field shout ought to breath they beat the falcons on a last second field goal shutter bread but they lost in washington because brett couldn't make a field goal at the end of the game so i mean granted he went to and won in those particular other instances but the fact of the matter is that that is going to likely be the case that is going to be what you're dealing with weakened weak out is games were all points or at our premium neom where you have to add a point. You have to make your field goals and it brett maher. Is this kind of lucy shaky sort of kicker. That's not a way you wanna be living in operating. I know i wouldn't be and i know i wouldn't be just in general. I would not want that in my contract year. If i was jason garrett so i just have to imagine we're going to see some sort of competition in for brent maher but i mean you never know <hes> you know the i think the best games that were had outside of the obvious i played luke different had a great game obviously interception shoutout to donovan wilson to fellow find texas aga- got it whoop two picks or the cowboys defense that only had nine last season by the way so luke gifford got the interception linebacker nebraska and then unfortunately not too long after that got hurt a- and had what looked to be a leg injury and it was really scary. I think a lot of people holding their breath <hes> cowboys sideline reporter christie scales one through the fan during the game that it was an ankle sprain brain. Jerry jones told the media afterwards that it was a serious ankle sprain so you know it's still at the time of this recording unclear exactly what the severity of the ankle sprain earnest but that that might that might dampen the about my my hinder. Luke's chances are making the hippie three men roster which is a shame because is he really he had a chance. I mean he was really <hes> a promising player really looking really good so far <hes> that sucks man that sucks. That's that's one of the worst part about the preseason is the injuries and how they affect lives. <hes> i mean that's just really sucks and you know who else had a great night that you know just had an injury kind of take it away a little bit with cedrick wilson. I'll be honest. I have not been a cedrick wilson believer and i really don't know that anybody's a believer as much as they are a hct. You have people that. Are you know they'll say things like oh. I think thanks central is going to be great. We had no evidence to suggest that it was going to be great but cedric look good and and he was getting open in the middle of feel. Which is you know to the blake. Darwin point something that's really friendly for a quarterback and cedric was on fire and then out of nowhere agent colbert just takes the cheapest shot at him got ojected for it <hes> and cedric. Was you know oh had to leave the game and so really is a bitter pill to swallow. I think on top of the way mike white play and brett marvin shaky two of the best performances for the cowboys in san francisco and new gifford in cedrick wilson were ultimately ended with with rough injury scares and hopefully they're both alright as soon as we have more affirmative details in terms of what's what's happening to them. We'll of course keep you updated on the boys dot com. I thought joe jackson played well. You know jerry. Jones has really been vocal of his support for joe jackson jackson. He talked about him after the blue and white scrimmage during his pre game interview on one five three the fan when he was asked what defensive ends he was looking at <hes> in the game the first name he named was joe jackson and i thought joe played well gave a lot of hustle gave it all he had joe was awesome <hes> but my jackson was not my jackson got burned learned by deebo samuel badly <hes> my jackson did not have a great game not as bad as my quiet night as bad as you know brett maher but in my jackson <hes> definitely definitely has some some room for improvement. I thought jalen jokes played well. I mean overall. I think there was a lot to be excited about. I i think it was interesting the way the cowboys head tearing christian on <hes> on return certainly reminiscent of <hes> of showers. I thought she'd have been leuze. The very small paul action we got from him was great <hes> overall. There's you know i think it was a standard preseason game. You know there was nothing to write home about. There was nothing to to to really lose sleep about. There are things to certainly correct and and things to be proud of unfortunately there's also some injuries to monitor and be aware of but overall it was a <hes> kind of a standard preseason game and we'll see what happens next week against the rams in in hawaii hawaii baby honolulu aloha that will be fun so that about does it for our sort of recap immediate recap of everything they went down of course we'll have a lot of thoughts takes and analysis as the week unfolds <hes> both on the show and on some five oh all our podcast on the blog on the boys youtube channel. We'll have some film breakdowns as well makes you subscribe to the blog on the boys youtube channel mix. You check got blocked on the boys. Dot com follow us on twitter blog in the boys like us on facebook just search for b._t._v. Follow me on twitter at joa and most importantly make sure you have have the absolute best sunday of your life i just i hope you have an incredible sunday <hes> e._p._l.'s backs. I'm excited <hes> gory gory man united. Let's get this done. That's good this dub over the chelsea blues. There's a good chance you're listening to this after that game so let's hope that i am in a good mood by have a fantastic sunday. Have a great start into your monday to we'll be back soon enough. We will see you magnon my friends. It's football season as always go cowboys yeah breath <music> hi medical editor in chief of eater. I am daniel joining up producer here at meter and we are here to tell you about our brand podcasts yours digest every week on the show we dive into the weirdest funniest and most important stories in the world food with the inside scoop from the biggest names in the industry three and expert insights from the newsroom. 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What Customer Service Should Be

Entrepreneur Perspectives

34:18 min | 1 year ago

What Customer Service Should Be

"Welcome to the podcast entrepreneur perspectives building and protecting your business one podcast time in production in this episode. We discussed what customer service it should be. This podcast exists in large part because of calcium the content marketing team inside cat sourcing. So what does calcium do many business leaders need help communicating their story. That's what we do content creation and content distribution for business leaders. This provides opportunities relationships and a platform for you and your business. Why do we do this because it calcium we exist to help entrepreneurs screener create and share amazing content learn more by visiting calcium dot com back combat customer service is a bit of a buzzword that is thrown around by many companies that feel just by saying. They're actually providing good customer. Service customer services a lot more than just a word. It's a constant and consistent action mitch long. It does not hold a customer service rep position but he acts like he does listen to see what i mean and with that. Let's welcome mitch long of cast source all matters you know every every practice matters all the preseason games matter. You know it's it's real in that sense that you know people take things for granted that the only living that matters is the actual game or the only thing that matters is the actual meeting that you go to but it's not true with it all matters you know it's like you talked about the patriots and that one article <hes> <hes> about the game plan for success in their first four weeks there tinkering the roster more than most teams are. They're not afraid to make a change say. This was the opportunity. You're not seizing the opportunity. I gotta go get someone in here. Who's going to seize the opportunity because we're not shortsighted right so so shortsighted hi to say let's make a decision. That's good for us today. And you know we'll just abolish all the stuff. That's going down the road. The future think about life insurance based off so much of what's going to happen many years down the road that they said well bills on sells off and that's how they go out of business because they build something that they couldn't service down the road right which is gets to the point of customer service. <hes> i get tired of that. We both did your company company. That had this model and there's a lot of companies you know they're they're doing what they have to do and there's a lot of decision makers in that process which i get it. It's not easy as a lot of compliance appliance but it's one thing to say you do all this stuff. It's another thing to actually do it and there's a lot of we always corporate speed and you know just we're going to do services way. We're always customer's always number one in you know it's just not so and it's frustrating because we see real people we'll go and getting put into that machine and get spit out the other end with nothing to show for it right and that's you know. I think it's it's valuing doing your customers and like you said every company says we you know every time i call the company. It's you know we value your call but go ahead and wait twenty five minutes for us from all along and i think that at some point you know you can't say do software prosperity at some point. You got to do the job and and you gotta have people that are able to do the job. That's the big piece of it and so you know it's all about looking at their expenses and so you know what i've been saying lately is. It's not how much money <music> you're spending. It's what you're spending your money on and if you're spending any money on inexperienced people that can't solve a problem then you shouldn't be spending a dollar dollar so i would rather see you spend money the money on last people but more quality and i think that's where the point where we've dealt. We're not insurance companies. Is you know you'd gotten to the point now that yeah. You're not spending much money on service but you're not doing anything you know. You're not really accomplishing what we're trying to accomplish which is which is revenue and the revenues where the money is not the expenses right well. There's basic. There's basic training manuals annuals that teach you how to do customer service. I mean there's classes and there's college courses. There's just you know these big. Corporations have the manuals on this stuff but it's the real life if application. It's almost a mentor ship. You need there was once. I was getting frustrated because i was sending out messages. Say someone on our team and i knew the work was getting done because i would see the end. Result is all that's good but i was thinking i had no idea where that wasn't the process and not that i wanted to micromanage that process that wasn't it. It was to say if i were a customer and i didn't know that you even got my email. The what do i what am i thinking at that moment. Are you do nothing nothing empty. He space as well. That's not good because then the client's going to be uneasy so it was more of a mentor ship but in a way was say here's what what you should do with that. Hey i got your message. Got your email. I really appreciate i'm working on. I'll be in touch with you. You say hey it's gonna take a while on a talent whatever it is handed handed off to somebody else whatever you're doing and makes the person on the other end feel good about it and then you explain like what does that do for the client. What is their mindset now that they've gotten a message message back. They're happy they're excited. Here's the proof of it because we used to do this and here's what are here's why clients at work with us. It wasn't always about what you knew what you possibly we had access to. It was just had that good feeling of working with you and so i think what i understand what that means that it's real and this makes a difference when you start doing it and then they started seeing that makes a difference. They realize that while this does matter but the problem is you got mid level lower level management that gets in the way and they have their ways of doing things not to say that they're not successful. Maybe they are maybe they are. I don't know but what is success and all that it's a different conversation but what are they teach these people so there's no so when you call in or your let's say your client calls in that once again update on their insurance policy whatever they're calling about. They're getting someone that cannot album cannot make a decision doesn't know what to do and pushes the thing to somebody else and we do it all the time and it's frustrating and that's branding so people don't realize that your brand so when i get off really frustrated dealing with john hancock life insurance or nationwide orf it's a._t. And t. or whatever that might be people get real frustrated with it and and they post that stuff and if you don't think they are doing that you're wrong. Get on social media and that's what people are doing and that is branding in a way that you don't think it's like the brain because it's commercial but it's possibly worth sharing with all the people that i know that i'm very frustrated with the service and this is terrible. I can't do this anymore right and that's where i think the companies make mistakes because they view the customer service person and the back office person as you know that doesn't have any effect on their on their revenue and i totally disagree with that and and and you know those capable can it can be really see too. Is that agent not just about this case. I'm working on her. There's problem. I'm trying undesirable but can you know if i have if the agent has a good experience with me is he gonna use us again and that's where the companies have really lost the connection action to where did customer service means more business and and so i know now that we're starting to steer out business towards the companies that can can be more responsive responses <hes>. I think you saw the article. I wrote about this but you know i did with u._s. Only and and you know when i pull up u._s._a._a. Either to to add a call or whatever they're doing it right then they're not saying. We're gonna send it over to another unit was gonna take seven to ten days to process. They're actually doing it on the line while i'm on his own and before i hang i've got i._d. Cards in my tax already texted him. I d cars and they've already told only got monday. Premium is that that's the way where we need to go but really these companies seven to ten business days to get something done well. They don't understand like you said if you're not communicating with me. I guess what i'm not gonna. Just call one time. I'm going to call ten times well then. I'm tying up your service that you're not saving money. It's really costing you buddy but not being more efficient and getting things done in a time when you know you're right what you said experience and you talked about time so it is that that co that customer experience again these are all huge buzzword so we're not saying something that the big companies are the different carriers or whatever that we're talking about. They say too. They just don't follow through on it which makes disingenuous and it's not real. Time is my goodness like everything we do computers on fast enough that uber cars not not getting to me fast enough this. It's all about time. It's all about how efficient cannot be with. How can i make things go faster than i get it. There's certain things that have a that. Take longer right right. If you wanna get your clothes clean you gotta put them in the washing machine and it might take forty five minutes to get it done. There was a time limit but if i said well it's going to take you five days to get your clothes back. You'd be like that's not good enough. I can't do that by forty. Five minutes or you know be reasonable. Take a little bit longer but it's going to be exceptional so what's the value in that part so those things are important in the insurance industry a slow methodical ways. It's good they're disrupting at right trying to go through rapid accelerated underrating or whatever you olympic under whatever you wanna call it so there's definitely been pushing that direction not by themselves. They're getting disrupted by outside forces by technology by you know <hes> entrepreneurs silicon valley. Let's say that are trying to say. Let's raise capital but let's go build software to really speed this along. They're having to comply with this insurance company that is and they're having a hard time doing it but it is. It's about experience. It's about that time live but it service you know customer services like such a word like this thrown around so much and i feel like everybody. Everybody is in customer service. You've got up to works here. He's does a lot of different things and one of the things i saw is. He was working with a client and the reason the the client came back the number one reason multiple reasons the number one reason is because scott gave him make great experience. He gave a great krauthammer service. Experience scott is not defined defined as a customer service associated customer service representative beginning through you are a let's say quote unquote old school salesperson. A salesperson job is to go ou- how drum up business journal revenue and sell stuff in yes of course we're gonna talk with the value and all that kind of stuff and i think there's there's knowledge you have to understand how they do things you have access to different products or cares whatever that whatever your district was whatever your distribution out there right but there's something more to it and i always try to wonder like wide to someone work with that person and there could be numerous factors. They command a presence when they walk into great communication style. They're just enjoyable royal to talk to. They know how to get it. They ought to have great knowledge a lot of those things while are important and they are right. Communication is one that people people are different in different ways but one i wanna talk on here is the is the customer service aspect of it. If i can get a salesperson who also can do customer service to away that nobody else could do it. That's why we were that person image. That's what i say when i look at someone like yourself and look at our team unbiased leave course right but still i believe it is is because of the service aspect. Do we hit one hundred percent of the time. No not a chance right because there's so many layers to this things and we blame because we're the messenger we're trying to get medical records from <hes> a very large note medical record company and they have certain systems and processes in place that don't let you get a fasten the age of the client get upset and we've got to deal with that. I understand that but but at the same time right who knows how to do it because that stuff is not commodity will right. It's like if we go back in the day is a mitch. Do you know where the body is is buried so we can go uncovered in solve this crime the person who knew where the body was buried new how to dig that person that person diary valuable and we don't have the person anymore now but those are things. I know where the bodies are buried. I just use an analogy that a lot of people use and again. It's just it's just words that are thrown out. I'm moley say that because i've watched i've watched you play that out in real life in real situations in dire situations to say exactly where that body was in that that is why one of the number one besides all you good storyteller and all that you do have access to knowledge. You know how to get that stuff done. You know where that bodies buried where where's as you know we talked about helping people navigate the insurance because it's it's not easy and i have an example of a client that that her husband passed away <hes> we had insurance company. She actually told me that i asked him. She wanted me to help. Her father claim she was a dennis. She's smart. She said don't worry about it. Two weeks later she calls me and says maybe maybe i do need your help and because i'm getting the run around a little bit from the insurance company they tell me they built my check last week and yesterday they're going to be able tomorrow so you know we we have some connections and went to some contacts that we had behind the scenes and said hey you know this is not right. You know their clients husbands passed away the policy's. He's been enforced for fifteen years. There's no contestability. You have a death certificate in the claim form pair and you know she texted me. They sent me fedex number number and she texted me the next night and said you know a million dollars on my front step. When i got home from work and you know that experience i mean that's still still believe that the people want that. They want somebody to help them and now more than ever <hes>. It's hard to navigate this thing on your own and and so i think that's where we have a valuable. The <hes> benefit to our clients is that it will help them navigate that problem again. All of these words you're using. I'm using navigate is another one. That's word that's tossed around all the time but you can say it. It's what do you how do you how do you act on that because that's what rights shot you want and we talked about before and i think it was martin luther king's don't judge a person based on what you your beliefs are judge on what their beliefs are and if they say that we're gonna help you navigate the insurances. We're having navigate this out and they don't do those things or whatever it is that they say they do and they don't follow through then you've done your on then you know what's going on right and that's something that people to stay away from and it's frustrating right <hes>. It's <hes> it's also the team right so it can't just be you so see you at taco before us training the team stephanie's stephanie's for example to say when someone calls pick up the phone call him back respond quickly right. We might not be the smartest people in the room but again we just talked about the products folks the knowledge all that stuff while it's very important that information we live in the information age. It's all there anybody could read about. The consumer can read about it back in the day. The insurance agent in had all the information if you wanted information insurance had to go to the agent today don't have to go the agent right then and there they eliminate the need almost an agent as we know insurance companies are are also trying to eliminate the need not maybe trying to but there's there's. There's reasons why they might right. They don't wanna pay the commissions that they don't see the value in all the agents. There's one hundred agents agents in a room. Possibly ten of them are value. Ninety are so what is that. How do we get through that that part of it so it's not just the knowledge. It's bean gene responsive. It's knowing how to do those different. Things and that's where i think it comes into place. How'd you decide who to work with not to work with and the relationships in the feeling feeling that you get when you work with that person and all that but it is knowing like we said before how to get things done but not just because someone said they can do it. I actually i'm doing it right well. That's you know to me and i think with our case. Managers use mentioned one of them. I think that you know building expectation so i like to tell the story but when my son was in second grade we went and had the parent teacher conference and so we were going over all the things they were doing. What are they doing. In english and what are they doing in history and you've got to math and she was showing us what they were doing. In math and i said this is algebra and i said i didn't do algebra until seventh grade and and the teacher looked at me and say these kids don't know they're not supposed to be doing out and that kind of hit me was if you build expectations then you'll get them and so you kinda get get the expectations that that you you expect so he insurance companies right now have a lot of inexperienced people on the phone dealing with people and customer service. You should expect them to be knowledgeable and you should expect them to be able to solve the problem in one call. That's really what will say money. Any is if that person has the knowledge to solve the problem right now so that the client doesn't have to pull in again or i forget to call the customer back or i don't don't send email or this team didn't do something if that person can you expect them to be able to handle the problem and get it on and get it down immediately. That's that's gonna ultimately. Save you money because you're not going to have a repeat phone call and so. I think it's just building the expectation of what you want and you know our case manager manager. We talk about you know if you sent an email to the email box but you don't get a response and then the next day you can't set the next day the next day you gotta call because because in in a if that person can't help you gotta know where to go to get the thing answer in and we just have to be on the phone if we can't get it down through emails and texts and so so we try to build that expectation and then the other piece of it is what we did the other day with our case managers. I took her out to see some agents and so the agents who knew her by email but didn't know her personally and so when i took her out and she got to meet some agents individually and then knew what she looked like just that one visit will connect back then to her for years and i've got agents i work with. I've only met one or teach sounds with twenty years later. They're still working and i believe it was because of that face to the face contact that we had at the time and whatever we talked about so i think the companies now i talked to a guy that they launch watch and he was talking about some outsourcing that now coming back from from mexico because they said yeah it's it's cheaper to labor down there but the quality of work is he's not as good and so it doesn't really do any good if you're saving money but not producing and so we're starting. John hancock is just announced that they're they're not going to be using the people in the philippines anymore. They've eliminated the philippines customer service area so they're bringing that stuff home because of the quality eddie and so we're seeing that start to happen which is really yeah and that doesn't surprise me that they would have a hard time managing a team in another country in the philippines. We actually had someone on the podcast john jonas who actually runs an online jobs only works with people in the philippines and you know i'm sure everyone's going to have a different experience with that but it requires the decision maker the trainer to help them through the process because he said he was he admitted it. He's like if you tell them to do it the first time they're going to get it wrong guess what second time together they're all third time going to get it wrong but by that time they're going to start getting it right and they're going to be very right and they're going to be very efficient very effective and very grateful for the position that they have off but if you missed the early part of the training process which clearly we know they missed that part of the training process at home so they're gonna definitely miss it abroad right right so that's not a surprise that they were philippines would struggle with that process because chances are they have some. You know you know outdated system that it just doesn't work and they're not going to follow through on it. <hes> there's a few different things that you said in there so we also had thomas wiltshire on our podcast reports. Thomas wilshere is the head coach at cass tech high school in detroit short michigan. He's a hall of fame high school football coach. He's coach mike weber plato. How's they place cowboys. <hes> david waves the n._f._l. Plato house day donald people's jones whose wide receiver five-star occurred at michigan actually and he talked about expectations said well. You get these kids show up. What's going on. They shop here. He's like we have great expectations for them. They might not have great expectations for themselves but eventually they will. They will get to that point because like you said they don't know. They're not supposed to be doing reading this stuff. They're going to be pushed. They're gonna be put in situations where they can possibly make mistakes but they're gonna have help on the other end of it so when you watch them on like that and you listen to supplement that you can't help motivated motivated and get it at footballers insurance. It's like a one thing's really exciting. Things is now exciting all but you know there's not a lot of exciting about june practice or hey and instead in those high expectations of things but it all relates that's why business sports and business in life for all these they can relate. It's what are your expectations when you show up to work if you just is expecting them to be averaged out lohman low woman on the totem pole they can't do it and we can't allow make decisions so the next person that the to go sub manager than the main manager then a boss said had you know the national district manager who knows how many people get involved for you can make that decision but like you said great expectations and then maybe they can get to that point <hes> you also talked about. We're talking about labor from a lot of people it systems could do it then we would be okay with that. I'd rather not the phone on at all india someone because there's a whole process to doing that and i get it. There's a lot of people calling. You can't staff it with. You're not looking to spend money will that. Maybe you invest that money instead of invested student people that can't get it done. Take that money and invest in your systems right so it's a combination i think of labor in the systems the technology behind it so you're going to i need some labor probably somewhere but you also need better efficiency the better people that are better trained with better systems now. There's a lot of stuff you can do right. So your your problem that you're having with the insurance company i get online and go through some menu and i get to my answer and if i can't get my answer i can pick up the phone or someone will call me up and give me the answer get it. That's that's gonna take a lot of time in a lot of energy. Maybe they'll get there someday but i doubt it right because we're all fifteen years in to always said the insurance cares never been worse i as far as the process the service all the stuff that they're doing and that it's and i've been saying that for fifteen years. So how is that possible because it keeps that means it's keeps getting worse and and i get it. They're stressed out ten year treasury yield which is something that the insurance companies are very dialed into. That's the number when it hits a sixty year low and then continues to stay low and it goes up a little. Eh goes back down below sixty year low. You know they're in trouble. They're stressed out financially so that's a problem but that's why going back to. Why do you work with certain people. That's why you work with certain people. That's why go to this person mitch and he helps me out not only can help you out here. He can help me with these clients. I've seen you operate with people that no no one else could possibly work with and i'm talking about here but anywhere else they couldn't do these things because no one was willing to do that work. It's like it's sports that defensive linemen that nitty nitty gritty stuff this guy doesn't get any sacks doesn't even get a lot of tackles doesn't get a lot of recognition right but he's the guy that set it up his teammates. No it is teammates know that without that guy the middle middle linebacker doesn't have one hundred and fifty tackles year because that guy's doing everything else. It's that dirty worst-off or hockey like the guy that goes in the corners willing to get a little bit. Blow your dirty whatever that might be see. That's the difference maker in. That's why i think people mitch would come to you to say gotta work with this guy and obviously wasn't for match wasn't for the team wasn't for the people around. I probably just wouldn't even sell life insurance because it's not worth it for me to deal with this because it's so complicated in that make sense riles difficult to do. I agree with that so you know i like the analogy and you know we talk about football a lot but i like to get allergies pain brady. Tom brady was a backup and and you know he was a backup new england when he first started and he was worried that he even gonna feel the chance and you know a guy got hurt and he steps apps in in you know becomes a hall of fame quarterback right. The guy never got back in the starting lineup after he came in and but if the patriots had said well we're not we're going to spend money only on a quarterback or we're not going to spend money on offense law and i don't think tom brady is going to be as good as he is. I think he would have gotten killed because you gotta have the guys that are doing the blocking and tackling and that's that that's what the insurance companies need to be doing. I mean these customer service people whether it's claims or whether it's new business or whether it's just your policy on their service you know they can they can they can make or break you and it's important for those people to to be knowledgeable and and and to be you know to be compensated well enough that they care but then we also built the expectation of what that job is <hes>. I noticed the other day. I watched the patriots. I swear i swear to you. I think their players play harder. You look at how they play. They're all playing at top speed and i think that's the culture and i think if you build that culture you'll win win and i and i think they've proven that i think is transferable to our business or any other business. If you build a culture of winning your win and that's what we're looking you know. I think that's a good one. I can't talk about the patriots as much as we do but you know sino realize it that way but it's funny which game what it was the game the super bowl they just want and they were pulling plays from like seven years prior and now not everybody had been on the team except years prior twelve years prior whatever it was they had a playbook with bell jack brady and mcdaniels or whoever that they could pull a play from the past that they hadn't even practiced but enough of the people knew what to do. They could fill everybody else in the didn't really know what to do and they go run that literally after a timeout and other team had ever seen the play because those coaches is. We're all scattered around the football world right. Someone is school in college who knows the players had never seen it so they could. There's no way to prepare for it right. They still gotta run their base defensive. You never know what can happen but they executed at the patriots. Execute that play to perfection and it leads to success and i think there's something to that too is we. You built something here to say like you and i could be across each other at a table and we're going to look at each other and you know what the other person's thinking shane. He's been in their. You know stephanie. Obviously you've not a long time but you know not. Everybody could be like that. You're gonna need new blood. You're going to need new people in that so different than the patriots. Bring a new receivers brand. Did you live at new linebackers. Coach is it happens. Turnovers gonna happen. These insurance companies are going to have turnover. They all know you got people that are trying to grow their career and they can't grow growing there. They have to go to a new company so we've seen that a lot of these different companies but then they lose key people along the way they don't have core so the teams that have core core leadership core person corporate over here. Those wants can stand the test of time because there's got to be troubles. There's gonna be struggles whether it's internal struggles or extra star wars that had nothing to do. You write shop to the game. It's pouring rain outside and it's fifty mile an hour winds. What are you gonna do. Some teams can't handle it. Other teams showers like no big deal patriots right. They do that all the time so i think that's important too to say to have that relationship where you and i can have a conversation and just carry on for days. Sometimes we gotta cut each other off. See i gotta go to work right but but there is that thing of you just kind of get that signaling like you don't even have to be talking to know what the other person's going and you know what a ham dominate with them right. I can do this going away and i you know i think that's you know i remember that game in <hes> in houston <hes> the one that i always think about baddest houston went up to new england and really outplayed the patriots and it's forty five forty one and shawn watson at toward he'd it really burned about and and so they had a fourth and one with about two minutes to go if they go for games over get the first down so they decided to punt hung and i i looked at my son and i said hey have you seen this movie before he said yeah i know exactly what's going to happen and exactly what i i thought would help it happened. New england goes dance touchdown. When's the game and it's just like you know and that's not by accident. I mean they when they repeat it as many times as they repeated whether you like him or hate him you know that's that's the culture that's a winning culture and and if you have that that winning culture then you expect got to win and then your opponents expect you win and that's what happens in same thing in the atlanta super bowl at new england. They were way ahead of the game. Everybody thought the game was over but guess what as soon as the patriots started coming back the the the you could see the falcons on this fall apart because they expected the patriots. It's to win and they did and so that's what we think that that the insurance companies need to do is create that culture of winning and the expectation of winning and then you'll win and you'll save money and you'll make money. That's the most important good sometimes to it it. It changes over time right at would go back in the big companies. Sometimes you get so far out there that you are. You built yourself. You know you can't turn around the titanic right. It's too the big. It's going too fast. You can't turn it around game over right that happens. That's an issue. That's why small business unrefined now. Small businesses have probably probably more exposures. You know one big setback could be real problematic for a big companies setbacks backers setback when there's a bigger problem it might i take longtime right. The tenant didn't hit the iceberg. Sink immediately took a little bit that ryan what i'm talking about evolution thing of or refinement find over time i remember when the when aaron hernandez let's say was there and they had gronkowski near too tight end. Remember they played the bills and all of a sudden they too tight ends on the field running route to like you can't do that. People like you know how how's that going to work or is that even legal right and they were just dominating like couldn't imagine if he had saying out of trouble double what they would have done if they had those guys because he was willing to change things up and i think that's another issue that's including agents so insurance appearance agents that includes the insurance companies that includes a lot of different a lot of industries right. You've gone down this path and because you've done it this way for so long. You're not doc in a change up what you've been doing until it's possibly too late. There's tom rodney studies at blockbuster video kodak right huge companies that refused views to change the way they were doing 'cause there's distruptions coming at them but they were the innovators could change they could have done things differently and they're not right and so you have to be willing to evolve all the say hey we're gonna try to we're going to try. It might not work right. We'll try five things for these. Things might not work. Maybe that does work and that's how will we see them. Even you said it right you come amihai progressive or think of different things people have come up to our younger people that means like oh. I know you guys. You're the silicon valley in charlotte north jon silicon valley company out not really but yes we are refining and change the way we do things is just are you willing to do those things are are you not and if you're not well then y you know what happens when these out besser surtout side disruptions come in and when these changes in the marketplace have it. Are you willing to throw the two touchdowns out or whatever that idea is. It doesn't have to be copied exactly what someone else doing because that happens a lot be unique yourself be mitch. Who's i always say like we'll go hire another mitch you can't do that. Great doesn't exist o'brady breed retires. We'll just go get another. Tom brady doesn't exist right hate to say we want to try. It yeah well. I think i think we're you know we've is sosition. I think because of yeah there is a vacuum of experience in talking to a guy again and lunch today and i said i was asking him about he was in a business it so commercial air conditioners and he said you know i said how is it find that sales people and he goes yes it is. He said you know the the you know that some people don't wanna come into into a sales position and he said it's one hundred percent commission so you gotta hustle and we were talking about that but you know new people are not coming into our industry <hes> because of the you know because it is sales and it is a hundred percent commission and it is but it could also be very satisfying as well and so there's a vacuum came out there of experience and you know some of the fiduciary you know rules. It came out at driven some of the stuff to financial planners but a lot of the financial planners. The insurance piece is probably what they know. The least i'm not saying they don't know the business but they know more about investing then they know about insurance products and so we are well positioned to kind of meet that need and service that industry as well so i just i just think are you know business. Model is going to be good into the future. One of the best things about cats source is having the opportunity to work with mitch long on a daily basis and then having the ability to bring his thoughts to this podcast cast platform so you can take in what he says if you wanna learn more about mitch sent him an email at mitch at kesslers dot com or find him on linked in if you want to connect with me you can find me on linked in or contact me on twitter at eric underscore cast. 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Halloween Havoc 1998

Something to Wrestle with Bruce Prichard

3:21:03 hr | 1 year ago

Halloween Havoc 1998

"Yeah well as not Adria there's no box of gaming bad at the dentist are nothing compared to what went through my mind what I was going to call you when we actually connected today three hours and fifteen minutes I don't even know what the card is I have no clue but I looked at the time and the things that I said you're listening to wrestle nice sort of Halloween havoc nineteen ninety eight fire up your wwe network and get to October Twenty Fifth Nineteen Ninety eight Oh who likes going to the dentist nobody does and I was getting my teeth put in there you know the implants or whatever and so they take and she lied to me she says okay I'm GonNa Screw this you won't feel this this won't hurt but at the end it's just gonNa be a little baby pin alone Jesus so you know it it was it was a little painful but it's done I've got teeth in my mouth that's good thing while we're excited that you're here but right today is the twenty one year anniversary of I don't know one of the most talked about pay per views of the year but maybe not for all the bill in its new house Bruce what's going on man how are you newhouse new teeth new just everything the church folk not hide in here I wouldn't hide it there's nothing to hide it is it is would it is cavernous it is approach she fucking lied because it was a lot more than little baby pinch and I lit out is windows all around and all that good stuff all of the above and I don't have any rugs in here yet so had nothing to absorb in a new environment and we'll get the sound owl then in the next couple of weeks might sound like what you guys are used to but today it sounds like you're in one of those great big fancy wooden offices with hardwood floors wooden walls and wooden ceilings and now David can't hide money and numbers yeah I do have some bad news are you ready for more bad news God just keep it on me I I don't I don't think your day is going to get better because the things that are in there and then they screw in a boot manner something they screw this thing into your head job my melancholy voice don't want I'm good with it but you should turn the frown upside down because the rumor and Innuendo is a famous wrestler From here we have to watch Halloween Havoc nineteen ninety eight no got here in cute it up and I have not watched it have not watched it and what's what's old is new again what's new is old again something like that you know what I'm getting that I do know what you're getting at and we sound a little different tonight be man I'm to to Mr Mellow right now to have that possibly happen oh you're on are you on the percocet express right now are you feeling gasped okay and she says to me she's shows we have patients here also will not for fuck and long if you do that I have to get your new take this week right all brand new baby all screwed in here here's do you like going to the dentist at all long style Halloween Havoc nineteen ninety eight on the WWe network we would encourage you to throw on your closed captioning press mute and when Bruce does play press play with us man right reasons this is GonNa be fun hoping that I can get you a case of the Red Ass Light Jr had last week this could be a good show I wanna give now until you had nope no I'm just I'm just a great mood I would be to my office was giant wooden and cavernous you remember the account down and we'll do watch play I've got zeroed out on my when I say play you hit play all right everybody ready county are you ready I'm ready all right here we go three two and we'll get back down memory lane and let Bruce WCW pay per view from twenty one years ago he never saw all right so I'm GONNA say three to one one play how about the the the black and the while there he is there's your boy what's the purple stuff that's the ultimate warrior brother Yes sir rematch from wrestlemainia six you know it's funny because that really criminally underrated he would even call it one of his favourite matches he ever saw I nothing wrong with that I think that that was an excellent match in it definitely did an awful lot to get both guys over and it was the defining moment in ultimate warriors career today of course just sort of like the tale of two mashes and you're about to laugh at lab will tell you this but Tony Shimoni to this day still thinks that whole Cogan and the ultimate warrior at Wrestlemania six we get the rematch and we're also going to get the the match that a lot of fans have sort of fantasy books with and this is an interesting age and Goldberg for the world title so this is as loaded of a card as you could get for WCW nineteen ninety eight would you agree I guess I guess sting versus Brad Hart but we've also got Rick Steiner and Scott Steiner and we've got Scott Hall and Kevin Nash Diamond Dallas Page Ninety seven ninety eight what do you think a Halloween havoc here's the Great Pumpkin Charlie Brown Great Pumpkin out in front of the corporate apartment there could be are there we go one announced crew this is the all time greats bobby the brain Heenan Tony Shivani if you say so where are they right now because they're the Las Vegas Nevada at the MGM grand which was Their go to for Halloween havoc ninety six was this exact same thing in somebody's front lawn on my way back here so it's wait was it suck Faye was it Eric Bischoff front lawn because he may still have that well I know I know that's how about that we'll smoke out of the knows you're trying to set that up in your front lawn next week on the way home tasr ripped off Bobby Heenan luck with the Black Orange there and that type of look bobby didn't rip off anybody if anybody was ripping off here I'm giving it to Bobby. Am Cool. I almost didn't recognize him that's a young spry might today by God and I guarantee you Tony didn't have a manicure here either talks to me about this jacket Taylor yet because it's still like coming down around as his hands down there all nice and tight today's got hair that's that's pretty I say never and Mike today gifted journalist and I would actually put Mike in that journalist category but Mike was one of those guys what do you think of Tony's are Mites neither to know Todd Jones here as tasks would say it looks like Bobby Heenan his actually actually was we kind of run the gamut there obviously times change you know and I don't think you guys will be doing anything like this now but at the same time there's still cheerleaders I sat me up about the way you think county dressed I have given Tony Shit about the way he dressed with his paper for years well he obviously hasn't got his is it did his homework enjoyed what he did love the business and you never know where you might see tonight again what do you think about the I met buff obviously when he came up to work with us and I have seen buffet a couple of appearances through the years and other than that Geico he was there for a cup of coffee a rob wasn't there when I was TNA but I did know rob when he first broke into the water professional wrestling or is that all rear view for him at this point I'm not one to say never so you never the way the WMD c w girls for a while that were dancing and stuff in between shows so he was essentially blackballed by Jim Ross or somebody in the front office and he never got another opportunity. Obviously you know what what happened at you know I got I don't know I you know I'm not really up on my my pc culture so to speak but obviously the look any wasn't a bad worker at all and knowing him personally I couldn't tell you whether he was good guy or a bad guy one way or another never witnessed firsthand and buff was one of those guys that you know was synonymous with WCW worked with rig for a little while did you run across him any in Texas before you got to the WWF or was it only your time in the WWF that y'all shared or maybe even wrestlers in Sarab got endeared himself to him and he was one double tough son of a bitch what interaction have you had with buff Bagwell over the years I'm the nitro girls were big hit I'd rather I'd rather watch this than some of the matches well always really nice to me but there are some guys that have reputation that precedes them and buff had a reputation of being difficult to work with the big show the big dance is Wrestlemainia I mean just your opinion what was WCW's equivalent. I mean obviously nothing compared Tim is rob for a while and then later on just went to Rick Steiner Bill Watts loved the shooter's Milwaukee those real business and he had come in to mid South sports whether we we were you w. f. at the time and worked with Eddie Gilbert and staying when stain maybe he did I just wasn't involved with it from your perspective you know obviously the the the WWF pay per view the granddaddy of them all Nitro at the time so it was I don't know I couldn't tell you I don't know how much buff even tried to come back so a here in two thousand nineteen it feels like what's old is new again before whatever reason tonight is keeping his distance from wrestling d think you'll ever put his toe back in you can still be a Laker girl or a Dallas cowboys cheerleader do you think they're still maybe an opportunity or is it would that be considered cliche at this point in ww metro shirt. This is the version of Chris Jericho that I got you guys attention I would assume is that fair to say all await havoc in Las Vegas. I've got a Martini on I.. Shaken not stirred but right now we've got coming your way whoever around buff Bagwell but it does feel like usually in wrestling the company let bygones be bygones and if once upon a time you're a star you get another opportunity Bagwell was had just broken into the business as well so I got rob when he first came in it was as rob rechsteiner and I think we kept I think for Jim Crockett promotions that was definitely stockade but I think in time they started to make it Halloween havoc and some wrestling fans have debated that but it's your player here for WCW for a long time but for whatever reason never got the second look from deputy why would you think that is I couldn't really tell you because he definitely had the nicer girls you and I haven't spent a ton of time talking about the Shawn's wife strutting around Did you guys ever consider bringing back this concept on I mean having spent a whole lot of time with buff Bagwell why do you think he He ever got another crack at the I think over the years he has theorized that I mean you know at Halloween havoc ninety six it was it was the bigger show probably in my opinion and the same would have been said about nine was Shane Helms Sorta was what it was and I think Jr said that his mom called in sick for him or something. I mean there's lots of rumor and Innuendo wow that's rick steiner baby Rick Steiner baby areas beware of dog that's one tough son of a bitch right there what do you mean Goldberg and that's famously win the streak ended and boy look at we've got here watch Jay before that was a thing rocking his Monday night Jericho instead of Monday night has to Wrestlemania I'm not suggesting that but what what what would have been there sort of tent pole event annually What would it be I mean I I haven't even seen one I don't know what they are but hey what do you think managing saying right now here we are seven except that was sting and Hogan so maybe that made it but below that I think the havoc ninety seven card was probably the bigger show and the show is sold out several weeks in advance ten thousand six hundred sixty three fans this is not a huge arena pretty good gate for Nineteen Ninety eight three hundred oh you started with what did you call in the raw girls or what was the nickname well we had the we had the raw girls we had the wing kits we had the can megan waves and actually you gotta here some of his mic skills and you've got that smart asset this of him coming through and Chris the match I mean we've seen a lot of action here in the first thirty minutes home by God it's only been eleven minutes sorry and because apparently not all the cable systems and satellite trucks were notified they they had planned to go along so yourself because it does feel like for a long time when he first came over you know he was still trying to figure it out but man when he starts fire in here becomes a WHO's on first type situation lots of refunds it's gonNa cost them well into the seven figures not an ideal situation to say the least I think for the first time in his career at this point you know it was really become a player that people were talking about sometimes it really is just a matter of sort of finding the hell is going to be coming out here right now come on down because I can't see I can't hear Conrad you told me to turn the sound joins Tommy Dreamer on last night the Dudley's are in town and they become you know as as mortal enemies now they're tag champions and of course the concession I'm sure ready hey we're going long so the damn thing is off the year before as soon as the main event begins so they had to issue tons of refined well who was responsible for that well that depends you know everybody's got a different story and I think once upon a time one and we know that the tide has turned the eighty three weeks streak is over wants Vince Ran Fault Steve Austin and the main event back in April here we are twenty eight thousand and change on the way here Nitro lost though the go home edition on Monday night four point three six raw does a five point fairness a lot of Monday night show start with a twenty minute promo so we got about nine more minutes before called up yeah but this not Monday night show this is on people pay money for and Johnny Polo they had taken Johnny Flamingo Scotty Flamingo and created this really dark disturbing character the promos in one of the best introductions of new character that they never done and it was intriguing because here they had taken you believed in a thought Scotty pulled that off tremendously it was perfect for that e c w audience they they had ravens a guy who had a great amount of success and he cw and then you know had a fair amount of success here in WCW The star cast is that right now that's my thing start oh okay I wasn't them star cade is that right six months later it was back and forth for a little bit but it's starting to feel like the WB F is pulling away and Speaking of away he goes was you can go anywhere except the WWF when you I thought hey we're going to be able to get our hands on the raven character was that intriguing or interesting you're on all cylinders as a as a bad guy this is good stuff this is going to be a good match to seven minutes and forty nine seconds a three-star match I should mention that in Jericho was that hot young fiery baby face it was going to replace Ricky Morton in the one thousand nine hundred ninety s and here Chris was made Recreativo piece where they wrapped the ring posts to look like slim jims which I thought was pretty creative generation prior they had wrapped the ring post with something for ruse which at the time was an interesting shoe concept of occasionally had pockets talk to me a little bit about tennis lasana ideal situation here's Chris Jericho Web's the Raven with his leather jacket those buttons hurt too by the way let's talk about Raven this is also the show and I know you may remember this particular but you remember the story I'm about to tell this is the show where somebody somewhere forgot to tell somebody get the raven character at all along the way beyond when Raven I debuted he c w I thought that those were some of the best. Do you think Vince got it. Why don't you think Vince was Able to do more with the Raven character and the WB I don't I'm not sure that a lot of people was like a little zipper gimmick on the front just like a fanny pack but it was on top of your foot and I thought boy somewhere Bruce Richard dismissing these doesn't even know he needs them that's half my wardrobe you getting a couple of different title rains and I mean he was doing well even in the ratings but he ultimately is not happy here Eric Bischoff gives one of his famous. If you're not happy the Eric Bischoff tried to pin that on Mike Weber Mike Weber of course denies that instead it was someone else them however told me exactly who it was but the name escapes me but it very much shaw without really yeah Eric Bischoff Antonio Vanni both say it was Halloween havoc and you look at this car then that's kind of hard to argue so let's talk about sponsorships here for a minute because this show famously with sponsored ninety six ninety seven by Slim Jim and they had a pre character to get behind the hate it was actually somebody that they could hate and low the little bit and it was us against the world you can leave speeches Raven is the sole guy who takes them up on it and he winds up in DC W it comes back to the surprise and late August nineteen ninety nine and we're interested in I'll never forget sometime in the in the early nineties maybe mid nineties when that's what the Raven character was all about it was him against the world it was what you know what the hell who in people lost touch with what what the Raven character was supposed to be oh my gosh their codes eight it right there on the guardrail the technology when you watch the world series pray and you see the background in those all those ads change from night tonight because number one time she positively just a gorgeous and really nice but anyway I digress we'd never did the sponsorships like that we remember the WWF wrapping the ring posts was that ever considered was that ever pitched for sponsorship as far as you know and as a matter of fact one of the things that time is being sold and they can change at electronially and digitally with this technology and we were watching they had done for sale it was sacred ground to do anything around the ring on the ring or anything of that nature just wasn't something that in the Olympics and everything in the Olympics broadcast they were showing us everything was branded and you had these robe in the summer well it's your Flip Jones in the summer for sure yes actually but maybe not since the winter is now in Connecticut you'll be traipsing she's the pocket yeah I like how it became a thing but they're still doing it this past summer Nike released flip flops had fanny packs on them wrestling people like Pat Patterson taking fifty percent or forty percent whatever it was paycuts nobody said God damn it let's just nascar the canvas we've always stayed away from back in the day was not here got snickers on the Mat and that was not not get it done in one if you cut it down the middle that's fucked up man why if I can't make a joke about me who can let's talk about sponsorships though I never you know you see the Gaga as they say at the beginning of the show and you can't help but wonder if they just want to trim some of that out there in good shape I don't need any extra time snow which is a little different than friends one bro I'm in fuzzy slippers in warm ups sitting back here right now we'll just lay out all of your warm ups don't think it's really even debatable here. The Halloween having ninety eight was a bigger show then starkey down a staircase ninety eight I know you don't remember all that was headline with Kevin Nash Looking at it today Yeah I mean that really is something that maybe long-term ad buys aren't considered because you look at it the people not only saw it that night but saw it in you know clips that the showed on TV right after all the magazines deals that they would see but in addition to that who would have ever pay five dollars shipping handling using the Promo Code Russell that is the key and you will be jumping up like Chris Jericho was just now on his don't WanNa do that because it was it's distracting and even having the logo on the ring is a little distracting sound silly so forgive me but I think that would be fair to say I mean Christmas Christmas Helo talent and I always go back to whatever the hell were in smoky mountain wrestling the young lions with Lance storm acted that we will be watching video on demand over the Internet like this twenty some odd years later and they're still getting bang for their buck is this what is in this life for me you know it was a dark dark character but then as you get into it I think they went a little too dark on some of the things that they tried to do don't we talked about it often and it was brought up often but it wasn't something that that we really interested in doing at the time and and probably I'm not messages all their Steven Tyler would hits but she's very nicely Linda Rufa but that was how someone even up to twice as fast now this is a disregard can't perform like bruce this is amy guy who wants to easy he wants I saw one Chris Jericho what an asshole he is he's your winner he probably knows about Lucia absolutely just a real jerk along going back listening to it they get those ads over and over and over again that's kind of fun because occasionally I'll get a tweet like hey on your Mr perfect streak and his mother is GonNa come out at some point and say he's been lying about having a a bad childhood they tried to add a lot of layers next we've got a real barn burner it's going to be wrath and Ming The story line here that I wanted to mention about Raven is that he's going to go on a losing from your fighter days on the floor and you don't need a rock that'll absorb the sound for next week Ooh that's a good idea I mean like I wouldn't only need about two of them I'll send you some of mine right and it's just like our podcast when people advertise on our podcast you know the first million people that listen to the first week well that's that's one thing and then the people that characters that may be one too many layers I think that may be a lot too many layers there they are I think Hulk Hogan is a bad guy was equally as as good as Hulk Hogan as a good guy and I know that he captured the imagination of Popcorn when you get to skip the in person doctor visit deal with the physician online no awkward conversation at pharmacy shows up very discreetly and then time to chew and do it during that time to win a lot of offers at that point but when you're looking at the overall and here snickers snickers got a great deal on this because we when you guys were were sort of heart for certain and you're taking water coolers out of the office just whatever you can to save money and you know you and jj a lot blue-chip dot com Promo Code Wrestle try for free right now there you go there's a real Dick Car oh my goodness Eric Bischoff pack when he had dark hair for real that's all that's like short haired John Davidson look it is victory because your penis will be huge in Iraq yes and it will show the shipment will show up in a discreet package no one will know that you and there's your boy Oh cogan you know I know that you're you're sort of biased but the main everybody these days and coming up next I should mention again as as we soccer's jerker retain the W. T. title that's a three star match Episode what was the Mattress Company in this twenty sixteen I don't remember you're going to have to listen that when again but something you won't forget is I just wanted to pop vein gimmick their gimmick the hot tag you WanNa get your Dick on the gas nobody will know because the position you're going to deal with is an in person you gotta use the Promo Code Russell and you know what I get when I do that Conrad Real Hard Dick yes and I also get my first shipment absolutely positively free friends it is the man they got hard for advertising on our show ends because they care about your heart on and if you you like talking about sex and you remember the good old days well man we got something for you it's Blue Shoe Dot com that's blue lack the color blue and the bringing these worlds first chewable what the same FDA approved active in radiuses both biogra- NC analysts you know they work he can take them anytime day or not even on a full or empty stomach and thence the trouble they can work faster than a pill they don't deal in rumor and there I was there so sure in the eighties but he is responsible for sorta lighting the fuse brought in the wrestling research for tots period is he not no doubt about it and I would say that whole was not single-handedly but without a doubt he was the one that turned that corner it's pretty crazy when you think about it too well he still does that any well they say look at the guns but see pretty talented wrestling family but what a legacy Hulk Hogan is gonNA leave behind and he still on TV now he's got a big pay per view you guys acted with the crowd he is the nephew of Hulk Hogan think his dad's name is Allan and that's Terry probably the the most successfully he's probably the most recognizable wrestler still to this day to me that oh my gosh he's whipping Horace Hogan there is well he should never get a sniff with you guys Dan it's it's remarkable the you know he's he's what got me back into wrestling and he's got me into wrestling to begin with just probably the one of the most special that would last for hours and hours and hours to the point where the the crowd was just worn out I mean well beyond three or four hours and everyone's exhaust I like a lot of re wrestling fan sort of got tired of the red and yellow routine and May when he switched to this black and white became a bad guy he brought me back in all over I look just because they were related in Maine that he had that `it factor and Horsh just wasn't full of personality and never really here's the thing that you're talking about the red and yellow Hulk stor even when he went black and white it was cool it was cool to hate hulk and then it became all the story before that I don't know that we've told a longtime about how when he first came to the company they were doing marathon television tapings back in nineteen eighty seven we'll have a sour taste in their mouth but I grew up a little hulk maniac and sorry that was that was my dude when I was a kid that Hogan I wouldn't be wrestling fan sure baby you're gonna stay all night long see the host or come out because the end of the night alchemist pose it's amazing aimed cool to be in the end of you oh and be in that black and white brigade so even when it was that baby face yellow and red no matter how how how who else is on the other three heads Hulk Hogan's on one of them guarantee is it not he's in the center and performers in the history of wrestling I know you don't often talk about Mount Rushmore not from a personal standpoint but from Mount Rushmore of wrestling as far as the importance rested and ready to go home but you guys are typing weeks a television but there was they could all you can always count on one thing what would that be the host he's brother and it's pretty crazy how also an inter weaves and somehow Mike Awesome is in there as a cousin as well so coming up here in about a week or so it's just unbelievable to think that he's still he's still going strong man because he's a halter by God if you cut out the Jerko Gaga at the top and he cut out that interview there's probably all the extra time that she would need right there they still wanted to be cheering or booing or just being a part of whatever hulk was a part of again imagine for a minute yeah he came through a couple of times and and try to out and more care and they're do some different stuff so why was it always a mess the very rich off have the easiest job in nineteen ninety eight just walk out there human mike stand well he would open his mouth and get heat threw three hours of of being wrath and they really wanted to say Goldberg who at that point was not only undefeated but the world champ and he's taken on DP who argued Tom and I think a lot of one of the questions we get the most on my WCW podcast with Tony Shirvani and Eric Bischoff office the end of you oh though you know what's great about the shirts as you see there scanning the crowd just one interview shirt after another one of the hottest selling t shirts makes sense I mean not not only that you had you had the black and white you had the they had the hottest finish in the business with the diamond cutter I don't even know that it was arguable well okay with the stone co-star yeah it was arguable definitely arguable yeah probably sell and say are we gonNA do a spoiler if we say with the last match is no stay DP and Gober why did they do the interview wolf pack why did they go to the black and red and the answer was just so fucking simple to me to sell more t shirts wrath the former atom bomb and we know that wrath is GonNa be attacked team called chronic at one point as well of course Brian Clark and Brian Oh and he got cut off before the finish as soon as the bell rang for them to start the match a lot of a lot of customer just went black and we're just because they had said I definitely has a look he's he's big he's good looking bastard and I don't think he was terrible in the rain but for whatever reason there was just something missing and the other item that you've got again so yeah definitely makes sense to me to interesting performance ear just something missing the didn't connect to that next level with the audience so sometimes you just can't put your finger on it you can atoms Brian Clark still with us today we've Lost Bryan Adams but with with his size and look again I know it was like me asking the same question over and over but how in the world to advance Nazi more money in Brian Clark or did did Vince just not think he eh he tried it and for whatever reason just wasn't sold he had that intangible it well we we did try and for whatever reason it didn't wrath here just fascinated by your assertion that it just didn't connect with the audience with the audience I think in the beginning it did the football gimmicks the the atom bombs people like that and referee here Scott Dickinson true or false real-life Sling Blade Oh my God yes he had an atom bomb tattoo that took up like half of his arm it was originally I think a panther something what you're how can you differentiate the performer can't connect with the audience or our character can't connect with the audience okay your great friend John Paul Shell not that's it so the way we've got we've gotta get like tell everybody how many years you have exactly zero by the way people with great gimmicks that just couldn't make it work and it's trying to get that red and then you had the Latino world order so different well you did Sir Argon it's just you know it's another was along lines say the same thing for Matt Morgan you know you look at Matt go my God he's he's got all the tools in the book and there was way way way way way what happened to his atom bomb tattoo the tattoos they actually have an atom bomb tighter saw maybe they'll show it on the highlight what he's on the Apron and does the flip body block thing off the apron to the floor I mean that's a that's a big due to be doing that move like video footage of him on our social because we've talked about him enough I don't think people realize he's like the real life embodiment of dangle boom Howard sir wasn't the human being that could make the character or connect there's gotta be there's gotTa be that innate Eh you know what they or other people would consider terrible gimmicks in someone's eyes and other people's is great gimmicks and they've made them work she doesn't have a tattoo he got it removed wouldn't you hold shit well I mean it was a big tattoo man whatever it is that intangible that can transcend and make the connection with the audience there are People Ah Brian Clark atom bomb wrath every other character is ever been did any of them connect fair enough so were they all just bad character that is the Finish Ryan Clark Wrath picks up the win three quarters of a star there was an interesting spot that we sort of talked through I don't know that and that's Lee Marshall Marshall That's Chad the Amati on the left okay well you might as well just said both isn't it would've not okay yeah sure ah he is a billy Kidman binks overachiever in the history of the world are you saying he didn't deserve go to art for real for real it's it was atom bomb it actually said atom bomb it was like a big atom bomb going off slam in here by God that's finish that's a lot of man going up there yeah let's talk about that by the way an from King of the hill it's just it's unbelievable I mean you need like subtitles since like Don Vito from Bam Marzio back in the day -actly yeah there's no difference by the way scale of one to ten how much JBL hate him disparaging disco I do okay now take a look at this now a lot of people would say that's a crappy gimmick he embraced it inmate at work I talked about it since and I don't ever remember ever discussing disco one way or the other and get that win over Hulk Hogan maybe he didn't deserve pushes cruiserweight champion what are you what in the world are you talking about he married Tory Wilson got the people dancing there into it you know why they're into because he's into it so real question again I'm not sure I would have gotten a white suit tattooed on me either but that's a whole other story now tasks would have enhanced his he had just gotten the extra Z. and swells his name correctly that's the WCW honkytonk man we don't need that not not now two thousand two I couldn't really tell you because and actually Glenn the anybody expected and a lot of people have said that he could have been a great mouthpiece or me he knew how to get heat a new how to cut a promo his work was fine I've only seen it a couple of times and it was to me it was turned off just for me for for whatever reason l. let back the salesman let's just call it like this he can close Oh my God yeah he just couldn't get her to come back for another product why didn't they get a sniff why didn't they come do this shit well maybe they weren't interested in coming in who knows it's he's Pandang oh I won't let me see here scare the spirits that God damn name of Disco Inferno Jesus Christ look at great seriously yeah it is and and Hey Brian Stout center of the bitch man he was strong as hell that are just a who the hell is at Billy Kidman in the middle the late nineties but at the same time it was a commitment to the Gimmick and he had an arrogant cocky attitude the you know why ah asking the same thing over and over why doesn't he get a shot with WWe everybody agrees that this was a talented dude that he embraced this role that he made and there's a give a sniff with wwe is just some guys had had a stink on them to advance or someone in creative thing or got down that's China but I I don't know what what either during this time that weren't people trying to come in and and that's working here hopefully making a damn good living yeah he is making a good living here and he had some interesting stuff in TNA and he's got a real life anyway what do you think of the the Pumpkin Cam here with disco inferno strength not asked to the Ring Conrad I've got to tell you of The Rock calling himself juice honestly I thought it was stupid and I didn't you know I if you haven't already in who've the juice what did you think of him trying to do his version going back near this time when you look at gimmicks and you look at different people there somebody that I think could fit the mold may be doc look like that anymore he looks exactly like that he looks at sits and looks exactly like that sitting in the back wearing a headset same exact yeah it is Eric Bischoff felt like you couldn't really sell with your face you were expressionless he wanted to see the cell on your face environments as you make your way from the indies to the WB Hall of Fame Mockery is fully voiced featuring performances by over forty W. 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Superstars I'm just saying like throwaway Goddamn white suit and you did this well yeah I mean sometimes the mask is a guy personality and sometimes you can have a mystique behind it but I always love whenever we would have I just for whatever reason that that really just turned me off how in also thought that who've been to under the mask I thought he was so you take the mask off of somebody and they take the mask off and people like it's a Fart in church because they don't know who the okay towers Romans rain players will follow the big dog there was early days in wwe including his time as a member of the shield to his rivalries with Brock Listener Johnson There's a lot of arresting folks believe that Tony Shivani included but I I'm with you I think I like to be with the mask better behind the scenes and her best I can tell he's loving lock he's also doing a podcast with our mutual friend Conan every single week you should check out keeping a one hundred yeah I didn't get it didn't like what the fuck was at it was like go away for you it was really was and for the first time ever in W. 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This made me laugh because you're taking a mask of somebody I don't know who he is but if he's his whole career was underneath the mask I'll lock Mash Tater a lot fried tater or lock muster my teachers sling blade with Billy Bob Thornton's buddy well it is unless it's someone that's famous or had been in the territory before and it's just that part of an always ena the undertaker and more overall players will compete in sixteen matches and live out key chapters and Raines impressive mark on WB history all while claiming champion. 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WBZ Twenty also shines a spotlight on Roman reigns. Why would you be worried aren't you a self-proclaimed time karate black belt all the famer no I'm a three time Blackwell Hall of fame not self proclaimed is just a simple fact Conrad wait you just put over disco inferno you love being in real life you're a big fan of Chris Jericho you have hated let's go have dinner with me fifty five plus nitrous doing two point nine this is so far through the county your nineteen ninety eight aw by comparison is doing a three point eight two point seven and a one point nine so you guys are are solidly losing but as we get closer ratings but you guys are going to suggest and actually have Vince McMahon I believe write letters claiming that this situation the rice has gemstones on? Hbo It is your New Favorite Television show I'm sure of it you're welcome in advance you're gonNA YOU'RE GONNA learn about as you would like in the two K. Twenty game by God it's finally here too I mean it'd be two k twenty is here and you can really have the groundbreaking journey of the well it was you saying are you guys saying that they did it on purpose Eric Bischoff says that's fucking ridiculous turn the tides on the ratings that you guys have seemingly just taken the reins for you remember that you know how that workout form where the pay per view goes along and it's cut off the decision will be made that says a lot of our fans miss the main event we should just air it on Nitro four nitrous doing a four point three and men twenty five to fifty four the during a three point four and in man to get here over the holidays and by God I'm GonNa whip your ass wha- I didn't say I was going to beat you up I said all other coasts are going to fight ear the winning but you start to pull away a little bit the next week though was four point five six nine two nitro four point five four six sure I've been inducted at least fifteen more times let's talk about some behind the scenes goings on here in the Charles Robinson do the skipping backwards thirty four to seventy five fifty nine that's ninety one percent the selling out forty two percent of their house shows it is a home run but people are still so fixated on you're welcome hell is wrong with you this is what our lives have become yes listen I'm trying to be entertaining the goddamn disco inferno mass company bring and Vince is going to suggest to the cable systems ww does this intentionally intentionally cost themselves millions of dollars because they wanna make sure that braise or thin the next week four point eight one tonight rose four point seven it's just so close and then this go home show when asked pulled away five point one four point three six and there is there's your winner I love the outfit too busy looking at are gaining momentum and then on the go home show you're winning again this is a an interesting time because your business is higher than ever but so as WCW spell hall of Famer wait a minute I'm GonNa go it was three well I've gotten that much is talking watching this baby awesome aren't Anderson's probably in there just having you guys beat the shit out of each other God could create you beat the shit out of you I got my I actually have show the big show before he was show yet now he's still the medium show okay what do you think of the transformation he's there on well okay I understand now before the refunds instead of point seven eight by rate three point four eight million dollar gross for WCW WCW Year over year growth from ninety five to ninety six was phenomenal on six to seven more of the same but even ninety seven to ninety eight their average Scott because when I first saw him I saw him the TV before he debuted in he added his his haircut and Lee this pay per view that changes quite a bit and the tide starts to turn a little bit where it looks like you got now totally new look here short bleach blonde hair very superstar Billy Graham Amish yeah I thought that it was a hell of reinvention for I can't think he's going to Bring out your great pal the giant is in the are you know what I think if I show you enough of this shit we might see some smackdown gals or something ooh they got cheers what he had been the tag team with his brother and coming out reinventing himself gave him another ten years of his career easily how stop it you didn't like that man so it was pretty good though I really didn't what didn't you like about it I don't know but I like the Dallas cowgirls yeah chairs that can do all things through Christ who strengthens me what I didn't say anything blonde and had no idea who the hell it was you hadn't seen any of this stuff well I saw him in a hotel some the it's a whole brand new guy what's he saying right now is he doing math lesson it would love it looks like Pajamas Stephanie would wear to bed no I would wear something like that he wouldn't wear long pants to bed you wear shorts year end Scott Steiner that you knew with the long mullet scarlet whatever you wanNA call it and the singlet and they accelerate bitch man it was lots let Scott Scott Scott Steiner so from and this is true all the way that match that would just covered there actually got a pretty decent writing in the observer are you shocked with that our wish but now we I guess Sorta what he's doing is he suggesting that they do a tag match He's GonNa say that you know in October of ninety seven to seventy nine thousand their average gate in October of ninety eight hundred fifty nine grand the one hundred percent they're up in attendance from thirty nine they should defend the tag titles against Rick and Bagwell and I think. Jj Dylan's GONNA come out give a ruling on that and then we'll be treated to amass so why are you now I mean you don't think you can take jr you'll think he whipped on taking anybody I can take everybody well then why are you worried where are you going to beat me what did I do on principle when this was suggested if that's true I'm just trying to play devil's advocate or whatever is that what you're saying well I know that the there is what I know you'll enjoy it sounds like I can't wait I don't know why you're so negative about the show it's one of the best w one of the history shows and History Conrad I believe that the term I can't wait for you shit on this was mentioned to me polity yet in Pittsburgh boy that that night has been coming up an awful lot recently for some reason but I saw Scott for the first time there was like who the hell is that what I don't know all right so the match got three stars is pretty good Scott Scott Steiner's GonNa do an interview coming up next you and I know the Hulk Hogan is not always a popular figure the discuss and put over and be complementary of twenty nineteen because there's a lot of folks who should I got chairs I wasn't sure what you've said chairs okay don't have it on the radio turn out well in the end you guys one well of course now that night I in particular yeah Darwen but I mean after that this is more of the same the September twenty first raw was neck and neck for instance four point -O tonight dress three point nine C royer on my God there's James Jay what's your best. Jj Dylan's story When match on here that is going to make you laugh out loud till well it's all cogan great match races it was but a manager shouldn't have great match your damn he'll manager you should work like a heel your charges do and to me that was one of the greatest lessons in the business to be able to to share with me success but he came to Houston he was a manager of Mr Sakurada and Mr Hito and career this fellow not so much docile underpin Alex right a loved US wonder can and Jj was a good manager Jj could get heat but JJ liked fancy himself like Leonard everybody and he also managed Abdulah the butcher manager Archie Goldie the Mongolian stopper and Jj wasn't couldn't get over as a wrestler and I think Gary Horror someone made him a manager and that's J. really went out had a match one time with Gino Hernandez and it was a was actually a pretty damn good match. Jj came back to the dressing room field us. No I know there's certain parts of my life I'd like to forget never also is is a baby face here unfit I'm GonNa kick your fucking hand off by the way For whatever reason Dave meltzer settled into calling Dave Finlay Bart Simpson here what the hell was the name what name did he did he oh my God really that come he's he'll right due to that then people see through it and that's what he was telling Jay Jay and I think that that was something that stuck with jj forever throughout his career I know that he can also work because he started out as a wrestler that was his dream always wanted to be a wrestler in for whatever reason okay well then good something right then but he was a baby face for a long time now a guy who comes out like that attracts opponent but this was changed the day of and I guess why but I mean don't actually yes but either way fit Finlay in here longtime historical bad ass been whipping ass author history and this time with Alex rights turn and that's right another one of those I say for a reason but you can tell from haircut here comes your favorite we know the fifth wheel is going to have a long WBF career now fence a heel so they're taxing partners I don't know maybe I don't know who's a heel and he's not here's the deal Davey Boy Smith was supposed to be enjoy said of going out and working like a worker you need to go out take an ass whooping you need to not be able to do the things the apple's you have you have to work like your character you have to work like the person that you're portraying the character that you're training on television and if you go out you do something else that isn't true into communicate a little bit better and it was a language barrier that probably was his downfall if anything else but man really good about himself because he felt that hey man God damn we went out there and and toward up at a hell of a Ashwin Paul Bosch came back what the Hell are you doing this is what I thought was was just walking out any with me well that's a good thing right I mean you need that it is his underwear he's a he'll look at the girls the women are dancing well people accidents verse they and they go back to do you remember any of it in his thing over there I knew I thought you know that the Alex who's one of those guys that had he been able just be nice to capitalize on it and be able to make some money out of it instead of just pissing people often say next Scott who we saw a pretty successful WCW career for what it was but then nothing else here stateside but I think he's in Europe which is the same reason the WCW wanted him at the time you know fit Finlay is a hell of a worker and I think that if there was one talent on this card that you guys never got a hold of but you wish you could and hindsight do you think who've into Alex right fit Finlay Perry Saturn lowly Billy Kidman Rick Steiner Buff Bagwell the giant Scott Steiner Scott Hall Kevin just went out and beat the living shit out of each other regal would always talk about that and made me watch it and I was like Oh shit the matches the regal had with fit Finlay going back to the the what the hell was the deal they had was hardcore matches it was you know going back and watching his stuff when he used to work for auto bonds in watching his dad there's a sadistic art to what he did and okay that's fair enough but Alex had international appeals well and could have done some big things overseas mansard recap this soon realize that you make us sit through three hours of shit every able television record doing a seven point one eight and a ten point to share which is five point three million homes and approximately Ashbourne heart staying Hogan Warrior Goldberg did he pay well and people that we didn't we didn't have of of everybody there that I think we could have done we're GonNa do a draft okay good I'm Goddamn yeah I haven't seen the whole thing well I'll just run through the names Jericho Raven Wrath being this only seven point seven eight million viewers and that's even bigger than the O. Hogan Goldberg Title Change For Ratings Battle as a brilliant maneuver it wasn't either brilliant or nor maneuver but the result of approximately twenty five percent of system shutting off the Halloween they were looking for ideas and I found one but I can't say it was necessarily the best one we talked a little bit earlier about how the show is going to go off the air dances are very similar you ain't in terms of like the the old John Travolta Gimmick yeah you know it's a little different the parking lot was a parking lot brawl like the the Junkyard Invitational Yeah where they didn't gimmick anything and right was one that we never actually got to try and do something with well you know what I think you go Alex Wright and disco inferno than with would probably be outright to you know the rest of them either had it had their run there and and or would have the run there but Alex all right in the background far right in the background overly Marshall Shoulder like paper view early and WCW putting the Goldberg Dean EP Title Match on Free Nitro the next night was the Goldberg and page broke the all time the bigger than Alex Rights victory their guy dance baby dance he's doing the same disco dancer I'm calling Gimmick Infringement the son of a bitch actually got better as it got older isn't that crazy too but I I mean I agree with you but it it's one of those deals where I feel like that may be exclusive to like him the business is supposed to be at work and they just went out and beat the crap out of each other yeah there assume you're gonNA brag about being brisk Richard Yeah I don't know I think our brag about that okay single Monday and he really managed to make an hour here in your arms tappin already down four hours of this this will be the longest show we ever did well no oriented minute Perry Saturn was the guy that I wanted back in the day and I thought the Perry was unique Elaine Lenny Lane had pigtails date I seriously don't know I in havoc what'd you think about the fucking pay somebody call my momma can't say yes I can't believe you referred to load is Chris Jericho you know the difference between loading Chris Jericho I thought that was lenny. Oddly and he's in real life when Charles Robinson's very best rounds will then that makes them a good guy of doing these if you okay good that what appears to be a seven figure catastrophe will ironically but be viewed by people whose e pro wrestling as nothing more than a Monday night yeah because we know that Charles Robinson is legit salt of the Earth yes he is what about this guy man I think Dustin Rhodes where some house they got older they got better I haven't seen a lot of stuff lately but does since last masters in WWe I thought were I mean Sean with the audience man he couldn't cut the Promo to then take it to the next level he couldn't really communicate effectively with the audience to be able to to get it unfortunately it just never clicked he he could do he could do anything you asked him to do but they go back to that connect do you think trajectory could have been different I mean how much do you attribute that sorta creating his own ceiling next up those mats you're really going to enjoy the cat what do you think the cats saying here by the way that's you on the he was not at his best if you mean if you could have gotten a less injured less pain pill reliant Perry Saturn aac just could be I thought this was a megastar in the making in real life Ernest the camera or the other me in Monreale life he'd beat the Shit too a lot in in that happens to guy sometime so maybe if we had gotten him a little bit earlier and or been able to get him it so it was there was a mystique about Perry Saturn that made you go foon over to that next level but Jesus Christ man to watch him go I thoroughly enjoyed Perry Saturn back in the day he was somebody that was on really sure what this guy was capable of but he looked like a million bucks and he could do some incredible shed and was smooth doing so what do you think is Jericho back out on my side you motherfucker he was working as good as he was no doubt in fit families just a mean son of a bitch and real life ended the rain so Caq Bay Black Belt Hall of famers will now three times like real hall of Famer like me but black belt hall of Famer to Gal is wells could have Harry is admitted that when he was in wt ye he was gimmick tap out of fucking mind I apologize I don't know who this is he was member of Raven's flock he would walk around and hold stanton signs like this is basically the WB version of W I might be wrong on this but didn't Perry Saturn GonNA wrestling's who with triple h Yet you know out there on the scene who did a lot of big things what did you hear about Kowalski's training techniques or lack thereof or whatever people talk about killer Kowalski is being this world renowned trainer but when you hear very saturn triple h China I mean he's put a lot of big stars Oh stickler on that Walter was one for many years in the WWF that all of the enhancement talent had to come through and you had to basically Russian and respect for the business in that he made you do it the right way and you weren't getting out of school until you knew what the hell you were doing an Walter and like this as Osborne telling a story yes were in any and it was a crazy story because you look at them and it wasn't you I believe in it believable is the best thing I can say when describing Perry lowly lives in Texas God blessed Texas they made you WanNa Watch it was a car crash getting ready to happen was one or was it as is I'm not saying to be funny but it always felt like he had winter ski school so Kouassi had you know quality was that Go-to guy in the northeast in the Boston area where he produced some great talent and I think China went through their tune in she was probably later but still it was later yes I think I think Perry was there in like the late eighties and very early nineties and it was more like early to mid for triple h indefinitely mid for originally by the way we should mention any guerrero was supposed to face Perry Saturn but he wound up having Transportation Problem Aka Mr Costco was old school Wolski is one that a instituted fundamentals into the talent at a very young age and it was repetition okay and then what was then he cut a promo break dance like James Brown okay but then you can tell anybody I mean for Joni when she went through but you don't really hear people talk about I guess wrestling schools have just fucking changed alive but you don't hear so we're back with these assholes why gotta be assholes today's Nice Guy Bobby brain okay I understand what you're saying all never called it all wow that's hurtful it is hurtful our France big guys have feelings Oh my God where would you where would you rank these guys as announcers MHM help a lot sooner it would have been different because he had all the tools and look in there something was something unstable about Perry did asks Walter Kowalski Test to be able to work on television and he had you had to prove to him that you were safe in the U Nu I'm in this group not Oh okay I had chemistry and and Mike didn't have to carry the conversation and Mike didn't half to do all the heavy lifting we're doing it had the fundamentals before he would ever let you get in the ring there you go like this match three minutes fifty seconds quarter star I'd say Bobby Heenan number one and everybody else I you know Iran Halloween havoc please do the right next level performer know that bad he's guererro man I wonder if he knew Oh my God the announcers you know from from a color and a play by play an analyst I mean if you if you had to go back and look at your let me ask by the way got a star and a quarter and they're boring chance and that's too bad because actually everything they did was solid and they worked really well together so I think that Mike was a lot better when he was an analyst and could throw the facts in in type things up and I think that was Mike Special and bobby the longer than initially scheduled is used for a sounded like a real sick part list of people so you know you gotTa look at him Ni asked me a question during the Alex right match but we got Perry and unfortunately did hello. My caller is one of the students in Michael's enhancement guy with us but Mike was also a trainer Crystal Wenski is he's the brain you know let's talk a little bit about the differences in the roles this flight celebrity had I had to fill in here but this would have been a much better match you gotta assume not experience loaded but Eddie Guerrero clearly favorite duos what was it about them that made those duos stand out not just to you but to the fans never mind hey hang hang on now S. is yeah he was trained by Walter Quality he and Perry Saturn and my Kalo all those guys they did go to Walter School who's Mike Sorry I thought that they were good frankly for today here here's what I liked about today during this time is today spoke when spoken to some fifteen minutes and much of the heat as fallen on accompanying liaison viewers choice and the cable industry who apparently didn't get the word out of the importance of the show was going to be what was the last time you talked to Sharoni not allowed to talk anymore since I said Hey Tony give me a call he never called me a bag Oh really he'd never call them I wonder who made that decision that that's a good idea to have a to these matches and take the risk of running now you could at the last match on it's pretty remarkable I it goes three hours twenty two minutes this show does disco for another eleven so they're going to ten minutes and forty nine seconds that's right to count them to disco inferno masters here Halloween Having Nineteen Ninety eight has A Place Setting says you could find me in catering and a third one that says eighty three days with area bishop earlier a week from now you guys are gonna run a seventeen hour event I hope so yes it will be it will be filled God that was awesome yeah why our show just that gay now pretty cool with riveting action and we faster this Oh my goodness sakes ten minutes and forty nine seconds by the way you're also going for the right to wrestle here so he wrestled on minutes and thirty nine seconds and then fit Finlay Russell's for five minutes Perry Saturn wrestles for four and now Kidman has to wrestle supposed to be two hours and fifty minutes master and say the decision to go past schedule three hours was a late decision perhaps as late as the day of the show WCW plan to go three ooh stolen did you ever see that episode of happy days where Fonzie was water skiing and he literally jumped over a shark it's all about Bruce dammit Bruce Pitcher DOT COM unbelievably. There's actually a fucking Pancho villa shirt over there I know you haven't seen over and not having your main event beyond paper You I'm GonNa Guess that it's Eric Bischoff oh by the way I don't know if you've sane but Bischoff has decided to to double down and he's got t shirts right now over at pro wrestling T. dot com if you dot com L. lunch with who partial via muscle got stopped another use Promo Code Wrestle it's just a plain red shirt but on the back there are five little slits cut into the shirt and there's yellow underneath read we've also got that in yellow the yet God you know about yet get everybody knew about the yet today what did you say that was three or prior to this the seven and a half hours in this does another disco inferno only still on the same day yeah this was this was do let's be we ought to mention that we've got lots of new fund shirts brisk richer dot com including one to one plus two plus three equals six use Promo Code Wrestle we've had a lot of nitro girl so far in the show I think just out the nitro girls the baby it looks like the hamburger helper baby but he's he's he's upset and it says over him he's a hell of a hand of course we're talking takes he's about to challenge Billy Kidman for the cruiserweight title he had to win two matches ago and order you can get a kick out of its Bischoff moving company will get you there and back again they moving truck another one often is fashioned to look just like the eighty three weeks ago and I thought if anybody could appreciate their shirts this week they would be yes I can thread underneath it's phenomenal it's a ripped back shirt but my favorite shirt an innate even close is a sad version star let it first came out vacationing in Cancun in asking why they were singing about macaroni cheese AH WE'LL GET THERE BUT MICHELLE DOT com right now forwards to his pro wrestling t science so Eric Bischoff Dot Com and he put out three shirts this week aw man not even fart but our God not this one Pasha the man he got won't be stolen the fresh paint of coat shirt which is long overdue but we've got an I think you'll like this there's nothing on the it's a red chair and there's nothing on the front of it Komo historical hey great this goes back yeah we got another disco match are you ready you gotta be ribbon me say if they just WANNA had one disk by now I gotTa go eleven minutes party go home is what he's telling let's go home now billy now the next list befriend but yes you can still go to Bruce Richard Dot com by shirts is trying to put over your friend but you know it's got to be all about Bruce thanks must be sitting is all chair it his all desk in his old house hall and Kevin Nash and then we've got Brad Hart and staying and then and then we've got Hogan eight you yeah on the exterior for something to wrestle with buying near cartoon heads that was awesome that's gone now yeah what do you think they're going to do in that in that old office now the new owners infringement Texas I bet they won't make a two time to this for the first time on Westwood one but if you haven't you will next week and yeah that download report do we need like a ticker got to do a little supermarket sweep later maybe I will maybe I will tell everybody you hate you right now do because I'll be honest this is a little clockwork orange I mean I feel like I've got you laid back got his eyelids peeled Arolla cast of the year do you think no sir they will not they will not I think they're gonNA make it into a room for their mother in law the Damn Nice shirt yeah lots of different style can take as well if someone figured out that they should have given them the keys out to left me as office chair in this office that the is an eighty eight year old supermarket magnet and it's just not NASA had the pool that we all saw on on vice last year and you had that you're a really cool detached office I mean I didn't even know it but you had like a giant sign he put that on and they didn't have their made it no then we've got Rick Steiner buff bagwell technical Scott Steiner and the John and then we've got Rick Steiner Wrestling Scott Steiner and then we've got well yeah I think that my favorite James J Dillon Jj was a manager in Houston it was on the WB network it was on national TV. I mean I saw our historic downloads the other day I do not going to send that to you like that report was fucking insane because we I guess behind the scenes we can tell everybody where we're moving the Westwood one so some of you are listening about Mark Henry and Mae Young's hand baby and that's all available for you right now Bruce Prichard dot com don't forget when you pick up a shared oppressor dot com you get a shirt answerable share the room just give the name of the former owner of your home Chen not have done that no I think it's awesome but you said he was like this big now right they if they only knew the she only ruined about Shit that was produced out of that room actually new house while disco has this real lock on Colorado can like this old house and you know I didn't really care for my last house you see a little bit of the Macarena in this match nearly a quarter stars tell me Your favorite mockery story my favorite micro thing after this is going to be the best thing I'll show which I think you'll like it's it's a cone anti-crime match is in the the supermarket magnet and your and your podcast house now yes yeah sure they won you won't be stolen won't be starlight she by the cashiers pistol by me you do not my regular office Sherry there that's nice and comfy all acid- cad out in front of your new House it's like those old McDonald's signs that says you know ten billion served or whatever 'cause son we're pushing some numbers scary isn't it yeah and I'm I'm wondering like finding the tone it back a little bit like Holy Shit I'm saying a lot of crazy stuff on here for this many people to be you stupid little bastard well in in Monterey were they lived before they moved to Alabama what you're saying is that dog used to be a drug meal and he's got a colostomy bag and I got and he was he used to holding it in he just mock arraigned on it you ride with a stranger to your house using ways to find your house and then you put pickles all over my room on a modest shoot it's a modest home some mansion on mountain overlooking city of Huntsville Alabama Oh okay cool why why are you putting a business on here why am I what business out here talking about my elevator they're in the elevator they were under your pillow there on the toilet they were in the shower they're under sheets they were in the refrigerator in your room jean shorts but combat wrestling loose have eighteen rooms a gym I've never seen the had had a massive heart attack damn near killed me and and then you didn't pick me that's when you didn't pick me up at the airport and I had to it is true with a okay you've got the infinity pool that overlooks the city this inferno was underrating ground slack Halloween havoc it takes a couple of days yes only Halloween havoc doesn't have an elevator to the top it does if you go bird Suada powerball but instead got his face planet that was tremendous what a great move looks like Kidman setting up the shooting star press you're you're in a in a former supermarket magma's house I am I am a very nice supermarket magnate House I've just got my humble house pickles that was really after not only that but they are in the coffee cups they were everywhere it was tremendous in some of them may still be there now we got him out of there I don't know if you do you think will relate a a cruiserweight why battle that by the way I saw when your dad gave the tour one time I'm kidding takes a couple of days to get through the entire into the Wild Samoan training school I'm really hope that Eric Bischoff has that giant flammable pumpkin Muttahida man work cool move that was especially for nineteen ninety eight and there's your winter we did a little remodeling we got out of there yeah you put Silva wing up there and had his dog shit all over the place when it comes into the room I just WanNa hear sad songs because he didn't take care of that animal animal's elected I'm just GONNA say and they put the Hannibal Lecter thing on him arcades even backed by God a Halloween havoc seems like a no brainer I mean I'm not saying this to be funny I thought it would have been fucking tremendous if the Vince flock and then he slowly but surely went from you know sort of scratching himself and things like that turning and evolving into this I told you about that his dog is never the official dog or something wrestle now and that fucking dog needs Sarah McLaughlin theme song every time I see it like what an awesome do you think Vince has any appetite at all for the name Halloween havoc it doesn't seem like why is big show smokey because he can billy Kidman again you know where he sort of this is an interesting the mill kidman character was really a WCW decide love your house to grow up in I hope to grow up one day and have one but one of the first times visited after he made the fatal mistake of telling me that you hated well now that guy's got more hair Michael ascher yeah the yeah I mean that's a that's a pretty fucking 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I don't feel like we've seen a cruiserweight underdog story that that's going to go like this again because ultimately he winds up having a master Hulk Hogan and getting a win break my ass by the way when you see those little dogs on Rixon or shoulder and makes me think of those are silver but it makes me think of solid gold so this is his character so I've been a cigarette going to rank boy hypothetic it's a different era now really you smoke a cigarette why is he smoked cigarettes I need to know this should have been watching buddy test why looks like he works out a lot now clearly I don't think we have the same diet I'm just guessing I don't know what he was eating but I'm just uh-huh different ingredients just say Armenta allergies solid gold is passionate about gut health because a healthy digestive system positively impacts the immune system and overall wellness pets congestive health for over twenty generations of domes solid goals natch nutritional platform is inspired by their founding belief in here who disrupted a male dominated industry and created a natural pet food before it was cool sissy was inspired by European pet food ADHOC quality food is the best way to impact our pets mind body and spirit for over forty five years solid gold has revolutionized every Klay speaking do you think Scott Steiner was on any performance enhancing drugs here in October of ninety eight this when you take a look and just the Kidman in a came up I believe billy was trained by Oughta that's right yeah or yeah and just that's a tough way to come up in the business going the fact that European Great Danes live longer than American counterparts her first recipe hind and flocking has now provided haw quality nutrition supplements like see meal and one hundred percent human grade bone broth for dogs solid foods are different because they cleanse the gist of system but I I never understood wrestling bell-bottoms that feels like it'll be uncomfortable would you rather rent stories would you registered wing was rather excellent bell-bottoms Jean shorts he wouldn't have bad two and a quarter stars coming up next though something will think you're a really enjoy count in a cool saying this is going to be it was the video came into WCW Saturday night starting to get a little bit of a ground swell of fandom and then we would see him debut as part of a member of rain code wrestle go to solid gold pet dot com slash wrestle save yourself thirty percent solid gold pet dot com slash Russell seriously give it a shot the thing that we know about the pet food category and they have a recipe for any dogs or cats dietary needs including whole grain and grain free options or wet food look at those are made in the kitchen buddy Megan I made me ship will no ads like ours are also the Halloween having name are you surprised you'll never adopted that mean you went with great American bash of instantly brought back war games for next tea but Halloween I mean the crown jewel thing that you guys have coming up instead I'll look at the way vic shows wearing the belt less tremendous if you call that show. 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Brothers fight it is like the oldest story in the book and it's real and everybody can relate to now you and your sister he smoked a cigarette onto the rain white so you stand is gonna reach onto the ring pull out a cane chuckle Beer Hall Java Woman Table You know I'm pretty sure it's down the street from me same thing same thing with the guys snort and blow in the back sure that's not Michael Hayes can relate to family feuds and those that you know take things to the physical point they can relate to that man out you're he is the man and he absolutely loves his bone broth at every single meal and solid gold has the best and all I gotta do is go and open up the Russell and I gotTa tell you man this is something that you are tickled with unnoticed Stephanie used to work with animals she is very very passionate about that you got never before I in especially in in that modern era at the time there wasn't anybody that could challenge that top spot the way the warrior time before they actually did it and might have been a better time to do a little bit earlier but they finally did do it and again it's real people assume my brother Tom more times than I can count and I can relate to what time doing these days catch everybody up we haven't talked about Tom I have a literal dogs and this is something that the prichard family is all in on Mariah absolutely the official dog of something to Russell with dodger can record and the total number of pay per view guys Baas is among the all time largest ever as well man that's pretty crazy and you think about it a three point four door take out my little packet a solid gold treats and I get the most well behaved Shula never see 'cause they just won the mid so use Promo and then fast forward and WCW tanks Flyer on him here in Nineteen Ninety eight when you first start hearing that hey warriors talking the WCW use in wwe and all over the world then doctor Tom is placed to go and check them out there Knoxville Tennessee and be trained by the best looking at it the egos involved in everybody that had a say in that at the time from hoax head so it was a dream match in the audience had to choose and they they were looking for another hero but they didn't want to lose their old heroes million dollar game back in nineteen ninety it was a match I think a lot of people thought they'd never see and it was what would you have done if you're running. WCW At the time creatively what would you have done with the Steiner together break them up I definitely would broke them up I thought it would I think that it was time it was probably at Wrestlemainia twelve and it wouldn't be too long by late summer he's a goner I guess by July perhaps if you will Brat just it was it was a powder keg so I think there was a feeling that yes unbiased folks but he is the best trainer in the world today while the probably could've used him for this mass were about to save a hulk Hogan and the ultimate Glenn Jacobs you might know him as Kane and they have a wrestling school jp W. A. Academy and go to J. W. A. Academy Dot Com to find out all the are you at the time you're embroiled in a huge ratings battle are you a little nervous or do you now well they don't know Royer meltzer would Ryan while Halloween havoc will probably be best remembered by it's timing problem to the show did feature the rematch or one of the most famous matches in the modern history holkar think of Steiner brothers was at time to break them up feel like they had just sorta Don everything did they do it because Scott and upward mobility or Woah well. Tom Is trainings at the Jacobs Pitcher Wrestling Academy in Knoxville Tennessee and the Jacobs in that Jacob Richard is let's watch it implode and watch it explode the remember the report that you got about this pay per view with been won the Oh yeah she didn't like me and I'm like well okay so people can relate to that how could you not like me I like the to try to bring the ultimate warrior back there had been years of of back and forth and then you bring him back in nineteen ninety six famously he squashes triple h organ versus Ultimate Warrior the headline wrestle any six at the Skydome in Toronto which to this day the three point four million dollars gate remains an all time North American call it and now it was a situation of trying to revisit something that had taken place so many years before that this can be difficult for everyone to coexist and there was no real wrangling of of those egos in and there wasn't that one person solely in charge to reign it in so yeah it was kind of sit back and let you know para creative control and the N. W. O. and you had nash and hall and everybody there with their own power fiefdoms holy shit the wasn't you know the first time that they met in Russell may six it was it was truly an iconic moment because you had the upcoming warrior and you had the the even at that time the immortal alleged Hulk Hogan and people look forward to that because it could are now your tag team champions but most importantly this means rick finally gets the mass he's been waiting on for a long time he's the take on his oh they should have started with aged Goldberg Meltzer and then if we didn't see the second Steiner match or the second disco match no one would be upset it's impressive in and of itself in that big bastard didn't need to be up top rope this there's your finish bulldogs off the top rope rick and buff that you wanna relive that moment and I don't know that I'll watch and see oh big show that big boy that so this is the show where Scott Hall was asking him to come interfere Kevin Nash Scott Hall Max Going to take place coming up you had fake watch probably but I I just think that the best I can remember was a I need to be up there like that how about just need he can't get his footing this is this is brutal nearly five hundred pounds off the top rope with a missile dropkick ah that's seven feet cheese four hundred pounds here but as well as over four hundred yeah and balancing up on the top row that did it surprise you when he saw you know they're bringing in warrior that they were just GonNa go right back kicks his tag team partner Scott Steiner accidentally all the way across the ring what fucking site that is to see such a big weather fucker on the top rope on the other side than we can investigate that then that's the only thing I can imagine if they were doing that then yes I would have done same way in that regard based on past history well that's what the go with a lot of sort of Hogan he either so it was a unique perfect storm with them at the new skydome in six years prior to this you guys other Scott in a no dehu match so after we saw to disco inferno matches now we're going to see to steiner brother matches for a while and I just think let's get it done let's get the match that we need to get out of it and then if there's anything left in there's anything which if you're telling the right story you know still could have drawn money and been entertaining right absolutely because nothing wrong with that why do you think some of the quote unquote smart fans had such a hard on let's see if you wait too long so with the intrigue in the unknown I don't think that they really knew what they had in warrior he had been away from the business lineup for this is gonNA end fucking poorly I think that our initial reaction was thank God a seminar us so it was Hogan all those years jealousy but again you know I it's funny the you call Adam is to make yourself whole and go back around and make the legend even larger than it already was you or your Hogan or is that what she too I put the climate and what they had looking at all the creative okay Harry one to know it means you discount everything that someone just said so it's is going on and why not do that you've got to go ahead and get in and get your money's worth before people are going to see through it or not they may not want good for him you really don't know how that is I honest to God I have no clue but you can't from the ways mm-hmm another neck injury here for buff Bagwell off dropping him off the top rope area so Y- you hear all of those things and say yeah but and I hate I hate those hey hey when but comes after yeah but rick kicks out okay but here's here's a great part is he's not even the referee in his count isn't official but he sells when Rick You know folks on behalf of myself opted apologize the not the majority by any stretch of imagination when the majority is the ones that are supporting the product coming out and watching it and in continued to enjoy mark fan I it's the vocal minority a lot of times it's those that are loudness that's what you hear but it's that that was the last loss for hoaxer and be able to go in and when you tell that story I think that when you look at the the big picture and our hawks looking at again he sells how long Oh my God port Charles Robinson I I really don't know how the hell that we're handling it here other breaking them up and at some point you know you gotta you've gotTa do that it seems as he's trying to pin Rick Bagwell is his tag partner so his own tag partner his own tag team champion co-partner oh okay Bill Clinton they're tech look so wait a minute so Bill Clinton left our pay per view went to their yes Clinton virgil logical come on with Charles Robinson in the face with that thing Charles went flying I hope the show replay that that's one of the best sales I've ever seen he's lip and account tremendous turned his back on him in the Clinton Mask Bastard Nara now now leaders would say this is just Hogan trying to win back and this is also same time we just talked about this a few weeks ago because the idea was Rick Steiner came off the top rope with top row bulldog backwards heads slipped out and Bagwell's head hit Rick's back he said got assume if if you're what actually come in and worked with W W wouldn't have been long if you believe those theories about Hulk Hogan there would have been a rematch with Yoko and how we you're what are you apologizing also here's the deal if you remember Bagwell's heard earlier this year with a neck injury now they're going to claim board and now the same guy who injured in last time picked him up dropped him over the top rope neck I on that same injured space and by the way they were outside in together Scott Hall one of the best wrestlers to never hold world title yeah let's just because you're all the world Thailand offer a Stinger right there and it was live. TV on Nitro they stretcher them out and it was a scary moment that was earlier the same year fast food when Omar God Gall my God no come on dude the way he nailed I called her arguably sometimes more valuable ooh there's Jim Crockett epithet there the best the best talent but he may be the one that is drawing the most and can create the most interest as best connection with the audience so you need those guys how much of it had to do with talent and how much of it had to do with reliability well I think that you look at a guy like Scott Hall Scott Homey Him Out and he stayed in Dallas and had don't whatever I don't know if it was his own stuff or a chain but he was running his ice cream store I mean interesting I haven't I I seriously I mean I seriously have not heard what Jimmy the mayor and by the plane now you missed it but as Bagwell was laying on the on the apron there he was yelling where's Monica is better off space amount if you can I would imagine cab just looks devastated though the best friend is partner is outsider Oh thank all tombstone tombstone all the way was a pizza Jim Crockett not dead and he will in fact be at Star cast and Baltimore Haters GonNa hate nut you can do about it is there a hell with Doug Dillard beating somebody who's at a school Clinton great wrestler arguing that I'm just saying the guy like Kevin Nash and most people I think saw them on sort of equal footing you know the they got a lot of turns here in a lot of people doing it at the same time which sometimes it just bs that way but it's yes befalto like among what did you think of the decision to put hall Nash Against Each Other but you handled it this way that was the last I had heard of Jim Crockett for a long long time so for the first I think ever cer- personal appearance from Jim Crockett he's going to be on listen yes you are I mean how way as you do though right I mean you needed him to get the champions over needed him to make everybody else look good in your champion isn't necessarily always the best worker people who were there people who know and should be pretty cool check it out if you can't make it to Baltimore Star cast on five dot com or join us in Baltimore at star cast dot com like only Scatter Hall Gorges Go Away Go Away Kevin Ash we'll spray painted it's doing since he was running the ice cream store in Dallas he had a he had an ice cream store after you know Turner bought here hall and Nash But Nash had title runs the Derby FM WCW Scott Hall did not how much of that had to do with height oh I just saw two so there have Halloween can you believe that I I mean you're no Salema here but what was the last time you heard Jim Crockett making a public appearance with yes which assail but fun oh my look at the crowd though half of them were on the as with love Mike and we're gonNA have a conversation about Jim Crockett promotions the good the bad and the ugly and Davy Crockett will be there and we've got extensive research from and let's let's get down to the rings him we did the Oth- out of him and I'm GONNA be on my red leather jagged Lugar fan quarter can help a brother out yeah what about me just say hey just say hey sorry you're my brother to appreciate they are C. A. S. T. dot com euro pal Eric Bischoff is going to be there you think he's got something interesting to say these days I think so say on in Hindsight Eric Bischoff says he had very few regrets about WCW but this certainly one of them house or whatever or just teaching people how to throw right hand yeah we whatever it just feels like you know with both Gaza initially got out of their foes big finish explain because they know each other so well and he would call this match finish Weird Wolf. Judy has a tarantula a bearded dragon a snake a wolf and she she he's been rehab and it's cost him his family and yeah it's a tough situation he's been arrested a few times and I'm not asking you to comment but I think everybody knows that he's one of triple h is better friends and it feels like he'd be there unless there was unless it might be it gives it one star as a reminder broke out back in May so here we are in October the big payoff living in the dangerous part of the Ziggurat now well Lisi's trade elephants this Ozzie worked the circus so he just worked at the circus he didn't train them never worked at the circus drinking as you saw on the video pack chinaware here he's had a real life struggle with addiction and has got him in some trouble get something else whatever it was some other sort of dangerous animal though I'm like what the Y'all doing over there I think she's just trying to get whatever she being honest with you I'm a little surprised isn't wound up with you guys on the performance center full Tom feels like it'd be a natural fit for character development or Promo Luna lot better today could not be Nicer Cooler Guy one of the easiest boss to work with has a great attitude as a ton about wrestling latte stupid you like Texas Got Big Scott Hall gators Scott Hall Diamond Stud Rose on hiatus and you wound up and W W we talked about this before a long time ago on the podcast but when you got fired for being a Dick in nineteen ninety one liberal as this is right now the fans are way into it by the way meltzer would say very slow pace mass with a lot of brawling went way too long particularly for a show that was aren't going so long that Star Trek we'll see he was American starship he was starship cody about story who liked the idea and who they wanted to to manage well I've been talking to dusty in the idea was to bring me into managed only that then I didn't I said if you train them that implies that you work at the circus and he didn't train them he just took care of them in their natural habitat and sometimes they wouldn't get you know what that probably lives at Casio kids washed how slow you know she has a wolf a real life wolf wondering give him a hand release that's got I understand now that that explains an awful lot in all the N. W. O. and everything that they did but it's holy shit her in the end you know he was razor Ramon and eventually in nineteen ninety-two those an opportunity for you to be hired WCW and there was creative kicked around for you coming in as a manager tell everybody well you know what I know you said here and we take a look at and he look Scott Hall stand in the ring and looking to create that he'll factory to work against staying for the championship industy wanted a new different mouthpiece wanted to bring me in and do that so in the interim the offer came up to go back to wwe and no one would answer my phone is all has been taken off his mishit by the way lots of people are being very very critical of sort of mocking Scott halls and finally got a phone call about a day later after they'd received the the Fedex and Tom when business was down even Scott Hall time was businesses hot will always be razor to you yes so that was maybe it was a good thing for everybody involved did you have conversations with anybody besides dusty phones and computers and email so I sent a federal express to the office Sent one Jim Ross at one to bill watts at one dusty you know I didn't obviously didn't transpire but in a Lotta ways that opened the door for Cactus Jack who cactus became the mouthpiece walks go home yeah Scott could go man go back and look at this yet and it's like holy fuck just instrumentally a son of a bitch just looks like a fucking star he looks like a pro wrestler if you drew it out on a sketch pad what pro wrestler would look like you would wind up with somebody who looks like starship enterprise or whatever the hell it was Oh my God what was that starship enterprise that's a fucking different thing one of those moments if you look back on the Career Mick Foley and his time in WCW were he was able to to shine and step forward is Shining Star you want to be you know there's something to be said about that he's probably enjoying life the way it is right now aren't we all I did like diamonds said of course you hired him and called them Razor Ramon now whether we started Oh yeah you were on hiatus in front of the audience and performer again not at all I enjoy being behind the camera more it's fun I mean it's fun to perform in it's fun to be out in the spotlight however like a like behind the scenes call or return any of my calls and WCW is just wanted to talk to him about it and and Kinda get turning his addiction into a storyline yes would have has a happy ending and Scott has turned his life around in this first on their grafton with each other the last time well this is really the first time they've had a big paper view like this fake razor and fake diesel have you ever had conversations with Kevin Nash Scott Hall about the fake razor fake diesel business early Bruce as Clinton from Hershey Clint from her she trained elephants truthful what I thought he trained elephants now hand to kill Cassio and asleep would wanNA kill Cassio that's just wrong either which is concerned from our friends I gotta get him Outta there he's much more whip into the robes on my face in two it came up with the idea of him being razor and Paul had made the comment that a Bruce I've got this guy in my locker room the Don Scott Hall the back of Scott Hall is too sweet but it looks like the sweet tart sweet finish keep looking I find myself searching for the Tart so we brought him in to say hey do raise her and he did it it was you know he a looked similar to raise this top guy in mouthpiece for all the top guys and they have all these big plans for me but they won't even return my call maybe it is all bullshit I don't that one didn't take early as much work is is diesel and bring Glenn Jacobs Enda fine tune come into the diesel character so it was some interesting times bogner he understood it and he understood that this may or may not work alone but he he did the a Aw Chico and we had the mannerisms down in the whole nine yards so that was the bar Burian and Cactus Jack the idea was to have a little stable of people to go against staying staying was a champion at the time and former WBF gas here Scott Hall and Kevin Nash We know that two years prior to this I mean almost to the day as when you guys debuted the him to lay it out everything out for me and weigh my options but have as much information as I could I couldn't get anybody to to answer my call this forced vision in after I'd send fed ex and I still didn't hear from anybody I thought well you know what if they're telling me about how I'm going to be this yeah I think they kind of laughed at it and it was what it was break bogner quite the career internationally before is dead nuts on Scott Hall and said why does all my God he does Razor Ramon Better Scott all those razor Ramon maybe it would have worked out differently but once he was sorta known as fake razor that's probably all I mean that's all she wrote I don't think so because he had been Jim would have been nice for somebody would have returned my call over the last few days when I've been calling leaving messages and I had to make enhance they were born shame man that in the business for a while and was just Rick Titan I'll he's a decent hand but nothing more beyond that he doesn't have a lot of personality this before I think we did when they first came back in two thousand and two just kind of talked about it and laughed about it not you know bogner he said he was a great job we don't know much about him besides fake razor well when we were sitting there Paul Heyman is the one who actually underneath the sweet anyway may just be me let's talk about as we're talking about we came over for you guys and that was really his first big break but as we know it wound up not being so big what what do you remember about locked talk about their and unfortunately bogner is no longer with us and rest his soul he was a wonderful guy but holy shit I think I'm sorry I can't see but he's no longer with us because it does feel like based on everything I've read about the guy and I'll admit I haven't seen a ton of his Japanese weren't the maybe he could have been he he's not going to draw any money that that was his rap at the time these twenty six I understand that but he was into it and it was it was Paul lead the one that called me and said Hey I got this guy in my locker room does just does raise your own veterans got home me and now here unbelievably by finally have a singles match and Kevin Nash just walks away when he has the match one thing about him is rick tight and put it that way we're getting to the finish year Kevin Nash just gave a Jack knifed power bombed his best friend Scott Hall he sold the number because I'm smelling the farts not buying that one Conrad I don't know I and there's nothing there for me so I made the decision to move on do you regret not being camera more I mean because that would have been an opportunity for you to be Sean Mooney if you're interested in the senior check it out on Shaw moonies bypass primetime but I think it may have been something that one is going to pick him up the second time here good God that humanity but when you see a match like this where it does get off to a slow start and it seems like it never picks up I don't think all of this stuff ages all that great ever really pick up but that feels like sort of the theme of the show a lot of slower plotting matches I know your old school and you prefer the old school style Wanda parking out is their wisdom and knowing when to say no and hindsight because he not come in as that character maybe he would have been something else else stretch but the match is is the pace of -Tarian Harley Harley works ahead Terry to be world heavyweight championship and the match went forty one minutes two out of three falls Harley wins the first fall with an abdominal and I don't care I guess so weird story to tell you know two years prior these guys were winning the tag titles while the first time and wwe from Harlem works leg for the Spinning toe hold it holds up still today and there's a lot of people I think that the big guys is got luck but nice just beg Rick Titan so you there was people weren't buzzing may take an all the time in the world he knows what's coming everybody at home does to gets him up boone and he leaves also account Scott Hall wins the match by count out and this is the end of the feud wreckage please God let it be a small package across chop you don't it's funny because a great match sometimes if here's a probe tip and I think I talked about this not long ago ended up being stopped for blood the the audience bought it because the way the Terry and Harley sold it a bill after fantasy cover and it's only GonNa get a star and a half it's just a miss meltzer would say it's

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Help It's The Best of Series 5 - Part One

Help I Sexted My Boss

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Help It's The Best of Series 5 - Part One

"Welcome to the best bits of help I said my. Savings by. Forever. I'm jody. This believe hunts. Thank you very much joining us with no script so we don't know what to do. We mean, off the weeks and weeks and and I'm a little bit rusty. God we actually I can't do anything. No. I. Really got into a place in the southern. Wow serious things can't come soon enough. So serious five every day at three o'clock I watch place in the sun there was the whole motorway one today where I did decide if they want to stay in the UK overbroad. It's little tree. So Jordan, this is the sort of top quality content we should be saving for the next series. Child work till. Three o'clock. Then I watch place in the sun, go for a walk and Mike Weber Woman Daddy's in Spain on their mosaics. House I got thus. Wonderful. Well, the six series of help I exited my pulse. We'll be here not a moment too soon this week is all about playing some of our favorite moments from series five, and as we know series five was so long too long so long. To give you two episodes of our best bits. I've listened back to this and two things of picture We are very mature in Kigali. We like general you missed. We heard everything into an Innuendo. Second thing is the so many little. Digs you. Don't even. Recording. So, many passive aggressive `ISMs from you. I've just listened to the best today. Apart from my horrible laugh I love how I? Today. Worry. Put you get so many little digs in. Well someone's got to keep me grounded cast your mind back to the start of the series where I told you probably the most exciting thing that happened to me to date while I was sitting in a in a private members club in London and walking past me was. My former crush, we touched on this one of our replace. Shawn Mendez. US something. Oh I forgot you need to tell us who you see own flesh. Out Gene Divas calm down. Are you ready deeper? I'm sure people will be as excited as I was. But how many series we have I have alluded to the fact that obviously other than he the only man that I have is for. Shawn Mendez and I was sitting in a nice west London south. I was sitting in an ice west London, private members, club, and genuine. I was with Mikey and all other friend Ben not not this one than other one the one I like and this this very told. Dunk head figure walked past and the three of us. And Yeah, it was show Mendez in the flesh and blood in the flesh of far away that chair is to me now. And then you know what happened. Obviously I was literally I mean I wish I was I was so happy monkey followed him into the Lou did he actually was just the two of us who would potentially follow show Mendez into a it was not made his. Show Mendes cubicle. Bounce. Schulman to thank him out look directly at me and in that moment. He loves me and. When I won't stitches. Not Japan, I WANNA get lost. Let's put it that way. They. Honest. Tokyo. Did you. Know but I remain seated for awhile it's. A misdemeanor. Met. Sure. I'm so short meet your Mendez. That is the next. I've met him I shook his hand and you've given in bloody royal protocol advice which completely negates any reason there is for me to ever see him inappropriately. Nice. He's very handsome. Now he is. He smells goes well, Jim gear as well. Did you see Bolger in his truck and then we did not see his baulch you. So cities, bulletins, chunkys did you just face because I'm gentleman? Still can't believe you're going to see your Mendez and he's Bulge I didn't see you why you obsessed with being moved deliciously that one there. This next part of our best bits was something I did not even want in here if only you had mentioned that. And to answer your question, I am not kinky. If anything I've learned from this series of help associate my boss. We've added I'm very. Far. This question but I'm GonNa get you anyway. All you can key. Because a few people one person in particular keeps messaging me and I mean keeps On instagram asking if I, know if you'll kinky because they're assuming several episodes series way, you would mention handcuffs. Right so basically because I mentioned putting your hand over. And handcuffs on a I mentioned handcuffs I said I know my handcuffs joking avalon taxing Gordon who ain't going on they don't. Say. Makes a change I mean, what question to us one are you king? It depends. Of what's your definition of Kinky? What few down with Kincaid, I've been titled Jessica L. Bell. What was the dressing him? Silk. Caution. Will Train Mail. Cutting caution. What was? going. Good. I don't know if. You'll definition of Kinky of been sparked. New Wonder. I'm not working anymore. Commodity Wasn. Me For star with the fly squad while he left a really fly squat fly swats cold really audible bill that on hygiene ache after. Marquinhos. Was this recently. Now recently, no, I actually wanted to know ping pong ball rocketed really So announced. Yes, I'm. I'm joking I'm. Joking what they called about for Ping. Pong. I haven't been right for what he's worth. I'm joking I've never been spence. I, I was once on, Mace we may want me on the ass we're ping pong by any frigging. I won't say I was Kinky. Vanilla I I'm I'm a private and it took. You've basically just have. Our. Say Three and one of my favourite ever Jordan north stories something that happened whilst we were onto in Glasgow. To keep costs down oversleep were sharing a room in most of the that we went on tour in. January it twelve quit ticket. What'd you expect and we decided we we're in golf guy we had a lovely showing. And we had a great for that seems like a lifetime ago. Now that's. Yeah, I'm not just saying it was probably one of the two weeks my life anyway we the the season and Michael off. We? We finished the Glasgow show. We got to the hotel we took off the stamps and we were chatting in the the ball with enough stuff. And we Scott midnight and we'll okay now nine, nine, nine and Jordan Couso Oh my friends my friends outside he wants to make me for a drink. Do you want to comb? We'll absolute auto midnight. We've we've got attorneys where professionals off Jordan went and he went and met his friend moving very nice. Jordan's the sort of person that can't say no a suck if he's tied up and he then Off He and I said, don't be late don't don't annoy me by coming into the hotel room like well, five past five am Jordan bursts forth into a hotel room and I will let Jordan tell the rest of this story. What time is it when I five, you ought to face light funder I was incensed but then you when you came out to the bathroom freshened up and at alive at an I I don I told the following story it was then hard to be irritated with you. The back of this I actually fell out of bed. Loft. Did fall out. So I left some pope. Club three o'clock in the morning and I got gotten a taxi. On says. Preeminent First on the guy. Light. And Powell also a? Plummeting? Glasgow. And he was like, right there's a boat fucking twenty Paul. And as I. Anyway I was how he didn't know about same pressures. It's obviously there's premier in. And I got to it. I couldn't even got McKay cottage and I realized it was the wrong premier and so then I won't to the Premier in the I was staying in and a in. And we'll talk the stats don't do lifts. And what room were we again, seven I four was he not remember the details? So we re. Tire trip ease burned on my memory. So I go waltz at the seventh floor don't they laughs and McKee competent work in the door. So The guy from reception of to send me on a communist I I. I'll high McKee Kagera work and he was I. Oh What's your name and said? Georgia Nov like, Oh, it's not under that name. Oh, William Hampson. Sober up. knows. Aaron. House I oh I was hammered. And I was like. Oh it obey the production company on tour at the moment for podcast the. Production Companies Book. And it would be under that name I'm sorry I won't know what as you aright five and often he told me the name on. Okay I didn't know that someone in the Office of the production company that we don't know the let me into the room. I won't tin and as I walked. This couple both show of our bet. Like. What this guy was I I was like Oh my God I'm so the most of four hours I could have been a must. Surrender Buffet your appearance doesn't help. So then the the guy from reception and Secure Komo 'cause the commotion and he's right I your perv and I was like, no no. I'm genuinely mystere as I am saying in the Prime Unh just it's not this one Iverson I've been to. This is the worst part, right I'm screaming secure the trying to get me in the left and I'm pissed there are indeed about twenty premiere ends in Glasgow. I'm pissed them workshop and I'm trying to explain to the guy that I can't get claustrophobic. Want into Rome round. China. Getting over people's rooms and he's like and the left and I'm like I can't inland links on. CLAUSTROPHOBIC. I love a panic attack to the point where. I was clinging onto things my mom's clinging onto a door and like a toddler of attention they secure God's on this bloke, hold them a legs and they were trying to drag me down the corridor and I was just trying to corrupt things go no. I'm claustrophobic then. At, one point I had both my legs on the lift door like Malek's out like a fork to stop myself from getting in the left. Sorry to that couple show to the secure I'm sure they're I'm Shaun everything and also As well. What really pissed me off the most is. Out The club and the premier was literally across the road from it. So they need to get in a taxi people think we make stories about you in the you're actually not stupid, but you know you are. So that. was what happened in the premier? Also feel like you should mention. I. Wish you could just see Williams face when I got. It was like we were married couple. He was there with rollers in face cream. Night wasn't face Grad. Arms crust. Where have you been? Here we she. German lockdown at the Star I decided to get creative. I mean. Now I can barely get. The. Star I was creative and I decided to write a Sitcom. All around. picky. Now. When I wrote this Sitcom, I thought it was decent. William read an extra hour on the podcast and I realized. Putting it bluntly. That it was shit. I particularly like about this and I didn't realize this until I listened back to this best bits. Edit was the music that was pushed underneath I must have completely missed that the first time round because when it was when it was sent to us for approval, it was what we call it a dry. Mix and then the music makes it even funnier this music wanted just my ring time here is to try. Just Plain This is the first page. Which means Interior Boardroom afternoon Reese, is at a big table surrounded by ten of the series and important of colleagues, his phone lights out we see a tanks from mom he discreetly opens the message it reads. picky tonight. Reese loses himself in the moment and does a fist pump the entire Oldham tends to look at him. Reese to everyone suggestive Donald. Sorry. I got texts from minimum where having a piggy tonight. Everyone is still staring at him. Greece continued. Picky to you is buffet but with the leftover from the freezer and well, it's my favorite T. Karen the Voss linked forties clears his throat. So, like I was saying that trajectory for this quarters looking solid. In fact, we might do better than expected re sinks into his chance. Interior Graham's office afternoon Graham is typing away on his computer. His phone buzzes message from. Wendy. picky. Tonight he jumps up from his chair in celebration. Graham. Come. On. Gas In. Children who your inspiration for Wendy Ingraham and who is reese is review. No. I don't I. Don't know I don't read. This is page three. Interior Wendy and Graham's kitchen late afternoon. Dancing away to Whitney Houston music in the background Wendy is preparing PICKY T. On the table, we see plates and trays full of random bits of beige food waffles, onion rings, Hash, Brown Scotched anx mini, sausages, all all lives and Turkey dinosaurs reached comes running in. Gaul, this looks amazing. Wendy say pleased with herself Wendy to the home audio device. Alexa Turn Whitney on. Alexa ten south off. Wreath. Euro engines. I mean, it's it's going jeopardy voice was good at a time timing frigging awfully shied S- GPA. If you still listening to our best fit. So thank you. This next is me Jordan Levi north. Give Him. William Hanson. A bit of advice for once I am asking him to listen to me for once in his life. Going to believe this of like got rid of our Christmas tree as well what April? Christmas Tree Ring God. Oh hold nine whilst that. That's my doorbell. It's apostle. Are you stuck in joking. Delivery drivers. And people genuinely think that Williamson makes it up. Producer Ben's just set in my Williams not GonNa make it for this episode is going to be absolutely buttered. Zia. Dalwin yes. Please don't tell delivery drivers to confer passage plays. Ale You've helped me with a lot of things in life I i. feel like I've learned a lot from you. You can learn a lot from me please don't tell delivery drivers to complete about passage. Okay. Okay. So you go to. then we come onto episodes six. We didn't have a best bit from episode six because Jordan's Bank break, which was again another recurring theme a strand we didn't want recurring. Second only to Wilford and just in terms of irritating the strands during series five, your microphone failed. and. Then onto episodes, heaven and robes question about not being able to handle. The de well, some variety, the less popular version. And this question is from rob. De William and Jordan. Hello rupp I have been in a relationship with my wonderful boyfriend of nearly five years. However, during lockdown, we have started having some problems. To put it politely in my boyfriend has hefty. Demonic. Jordan it's about the size of a pint can of Steno. For William if we were talking about from champagne as an average weekly, guessing on for Jared Bowen. Jared too big censorship Oh, my God what. A mouth wide open. I presume means the neck and not the bottle end. While I've been very happy with the situation up until now I'm finding it's getting a bit much. Now we're spending so much time at home I, if we continue as we were, we might end up doing the opposite of the government's advice and I could actually end up becoming a burden on the chess. What is the educator for making suggestions of other things we can do in the bedroom or should I just put up and shut up so to speak. Very. Much. Looking forward to seeing who is better qualified to respond kind regards rope. MANCA. This one. I was just going to say plenty a Papua's book. He want. You WanNa come in now William Crackdown. Thank you. Deep breaths. and made say got a headache. Could you not say, let's `communautarian how to even answer my God I'm just thinking Stella. Kenilworth. Montana. Selling. Kamloops link better be like throwing sausage out Mersey tunnel. Once he's done new US joke all the time about us is. Right. Okay. seriously. If the Leuven Papas artwork working you have to. You're. GonNa have to stop. then. Yes. Do you know what? You can't bait bed dry. And question very much set the tone for another one of our listener questions in episode nine. This next question is from Chris Day William Jordan and producer Ben. I returned to my family home Philip Down as my university ask students in holes to leave if they could. I mistakenly left my Dildo. And numbing loop. Usually reserve for larger sizes but HEYHOE. Happening this series and I have not been able to travel back to collections. Quick. Now, that my family develops tradition of watching each other open post. Family every on what teacher for though powerhouse. Sorry. Yes. Go Spurs. Now that my family have developed a tradition of watching each other open post from the socially distance delivery person, I'm not sure how I meant to order replacements without them knowing. So, my question is, how can I discreetly order a Dildo or what other phallic shape devices should I use I'm guessing I would have to find them from around the house. Thank, Vice Chris Pearce Sorry William in Jordan but the gays would probably fancy producer. Ben Over you too well, Chris Kelly, you're suffering from delusions. Can we first of all decide here now that made the title of the episode help, how do I order? They'll though in lockdown dildo is in the title I'm not sharing. It's my socials and I'm just I'm just saying that now off, this is what we have every week. We come title a bloody. CROWDED IS I. Can't lose what you never gonNa work again after this. Well, my biggest tate home from that lesser. Known about you is that there's such a thing is numbing Lube. I didn't even know. What you're in for Willie A. Want to. Have a little google. Just founder interests right my advice ace the you crack on an audience you dildo no mainly. A week before you are do it. You Start Your House don't open post. Don't read the Post Job I'm just sending you a few things Oh, my word. Look what I found. Sent me. I mean it all goes on. To say it Jesus. East. Ultra lubricate in slightly slightly domain. Fully nobody if it will go oh, my God is sought to his elbow that's just the cover and that was my favorite one eight. Actually says, Hey, relaxes the eighties for easy penetration that. Are Part You can't say that one out. Loud. He's He's. Flavor seeing. How I'm a very naive man I mean highlight dressing gown belt. My advice is audio yourself some knowing leap cream. Forever, and also tell you stop new Polish because he posted private and look after yourself. Be careful. Stay safe. I mean. Well. Chris. Still come leave knowing leap. I mean, I generally didn't Ariza thing. Now, promises of the stuff but. Really. We could have unknowingly par a guy. I, don't. Want us when back to you know that game where you put the dentist thing in your mouth the gumshield. I did that one yeah got thrown out. You know you have to. Shield in your mouth gumshield. Yeah and you have to say a sentence is a game isn't it almost doing that for years Christmas, we could do that with knowing move we could put nominee. Is Meant to go on your mouth. Okay. Produce. Very helpfully chips in with a commenters to women moves post to go. Next is a story about my dad's having a bit of a problem. This is where the Schubert's disgusting. and. The reason why we got talking about this is because a listener. Row In. She shot out of. A. Sci Gardens you're just say short court. Issued it. She got short caught. Your. Boyfriend? Garden. Possible. Yeah. Someone she was on a date with. Someone Sunday basically. Jet. It's And I. Tell the don't worry the only person to do. This. I he wants came down to our house. When he was in the army, we did once came around to surprise us. We will allow. And need really need to host Putin a shoebox that was in the outside. and. Matt. I mean, I've never. been. A couple of days. Never. Coppola days. When out fly the recycling. And he had flip flops on and all the pre when inventory his toes. So we. Know How screaming say to Imam. shoebox outside a minimum one oh, it'll be adult. Talk and why piece is we pay the like talk on the hotel. Stupid. For about three months, we didn't know who paid in the shoebox outside. Every time. One of my friends announce it we co did you sheet in a shoebox outside my garden I mean Mace? No we're me Graham honestly, and then finally mentioned it again in passing and they both went all that were May and we tap when you. Yeah come to our house safe your input. Noni. Over there. So to anonymous at, keep it to yourself. It sounds really struggling with it inside knowing needed this. Don't worry it's probably more common than what you think I. Mean I really think it is Dina. I. Think in very select parts of the northwest. I completely forgot about that. Yeah. I wish more I still can't believe. I've never told anyone that story now you've shared it with our listeners. Part of your worldly experience. So they're not say worldly that you actually genuinely thought. Some of the Scandinavian countries have to less hours in the day. We live in Finland. Hyper live in Finland where working from home is still recommended until September we have been in each other's company twenty, two, seven, twenty, two, seven on maybe they have shorter days and. What they say twenty two, seven, because it shows like we I mean, Jordan. I mean when I said I think the actual today that was a joke. Every country has twenty four hours in a day. But it gets dark. But they still have twenty four hours a day. Yeah but it was it was a joke I know it gets darker. Thus, why was a joke in Iceland their days are sure because sometimes they only have hours daylight. Along thick as I'm totally honestly I mean you're educating you were too busy staining pieces of paper with teabags. Doing useful thinks. Right just listening back to that again. cringing. Twenty two seven. I wasn't thinking straight and I've been in the house alone time and yes. Ev just to clarify no matter where you are in the world, we all have twenty four hours in days of the week. Seven. Next is for once may not do with an impression it. Williams. Doing an impression of young Jordan. Yes. An episode eleven we introduced a new character which have come injured and which when he was a young boy, he may be little come around the house. So he would ask his known for square in a white he's the. War, I'm going to sound very Williams today for in school I. Think is in year nine year ten I wouldn't stay up friend's house. For. sleepover. And his house was scruffy. I remember it even now still smell the cat piss and even lovely loud. I had to ring my mom to pick me up. In the middle night's just sleeping was and what did you say? It's absolutely filthy with us to it's trumped up to two. Oh my God. I love your impression. Camp Young. Jordan countdown Jordan's gray is just disgusted. All dance with wanted to run around or the MOP and Abbas question of why. 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BioWatch info potentially exposed. Scammers indicted. Ukrainian cryptojacking exposed sensitive data. Social engineering notes. Boo birds and lawsuits. Data use and privacy. Low-earth orbit hack.

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BioWatch info potentially exposed. Scammers indicted. Ukrainian cryptojacking exposed sensitive data. Social engineering notes. Boo birds and lawsuits. Data use and privacy. Low-earth orbit hack.

"Bio watch info exposed patched vulnerabilities are weaponized in the wild romance and other scam indictments name eighty defendants crypto mining data exposure social engineering with sheen of multi factor authentication suing the bluebirds and the people who let them in the road. The happiness is paved with mutually exclusive good intentions and alleged identity theft from low earth orbit. It's time to take a moment to tell you about our sponsor. 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That's recorded did future dot com slash cyber wire and we thank recorded future for sponsoring our show funding adding for this cyber wire podcast is made possible in part by bug crowd connecting organizations with top security researchers pen testers white hat hackers in the world to identify ten ten times more vulnerabilities than scanners traditional pen tests learn more about how their award winning platform provides actionable insights like remediation advice to help fix faster stor while methodology driven assessments ensure compliance needs are met at bug crowd dot com from the cyber wire studios at data tribe. I'm dave they've bittner with your cyber wires summary for monday august twenty eighth two thousand nineteen. It's good to be back. The los angeles times reports that data concerning the u._s. department -partment of homeland security's bio watch program where exposed for over a decade on contractors unsecured server the data included some censor locations list of bio agents that could be detected and some contingency plans. The vulnerable site has been shuttered and the data moved behind d._h._s. Firewall none of the data reported to have been vulnerable to hackers seems to have been highly sensitive. Although of course no responsible agency want such information gurgling around out there on the internet d._h._s. doesn't know and is unlikely to ever know whether any unauthorized parties access the information according to z._d. Net and others the attackers are weaponized. Vulnerabilities in web men servers pulse secure and fortinet. V._p._n.'s users are urged to patch security security week reports that the u._s. department of justice unsealed an indictment naming some eighty defendants in a range of online frauds ranging from business email compromise to romance scams gams the to lead defendants and several co conspirators are nigerian nationals internet u._a. Says the crypto mining rig ukraine's s._b._u. Dismantled at the south ukraine nuclear power station apparently expose data about the plants physical security such data are sensitive and in ukraine a crane. They are considered state secrets. Phishing attempts are mimicking multi factor authentication log in screens naked security says they aren't really multi altea factor authentication screens of course they're simply malicious links but the appearances more convincing than what's usually been seen in earlier attempts sophos advises prices avoiding email links being aware of domain names and forgoing any shortcuts to determining whether accounts are being misused by some third party. Mike weber is vice president at coal fire labs and we caught up to discuss the most recent release of their annual penetration risk report but first he shared. I heard some of the trends. He was tracking at this year's black hat conference. I would say that most <hes> organizations. They know what they need to want to expect but they don't wanna get stuck doing what others have done so one of the things that we've seen in faults of organizations with solutions in the cloud are different that should that what we're finding vulnerabilities. He's through our penetration testing changing a bit so when we look at what we saw over you know in past years two thousand sixteen two thousand seventeen. We're finding the traditional vulnerabilities across us enterprises in software. There are soft weak. Security mechanisms on the inside of a company perimeters are reasonably robust and application asian issues. Are your traditional wasp top ten now that we see these companies going to the cloud. We're finding more of the miss configuration vulnerability as the top of the heap organizations that are trying to deploy cloud solution. They're trying to be in a cloud provider agnostic so if they wanna move from amazon s. three over to azure blob or whatever they wanna do. Do you know they wanna make it so that it's very flexible in that solution so they can change if they are not completely tied to provide i get it. It's great business reason however in building those in deploying them sometimes you're not leveraging the security controls that are inherent in some of these services or in the suite of services you can get from a single provider based on whether whether or not understanding that it isn't available or there isn't an equivalent or the equivalent is something desperate and has a different nomenclature and it can get very confusing when developing solutions for the cloud particularly when using hybrid clouds are mixed <hes> providers we saw that reflected in our country risk report well. Let's dig in a bit in talk about <hes> <music>. You're coal fire labs penetration risk report. What are some of the key findings. What what did you discover by putting the data together well last year we found we found a sweet spot. We thought that what we're gonna see is we're going to see from a company size. Perspective large companies lots of money small companies no money medium sized companies. You know growing whatever we found that the medium sized companies were in the sweet spot. They were more secure by the way we define secure through the collection and the data that midsized companies were more secure than their large or small brethren this year when we looked at it it's kind of it's sort of lipped on its head so so <hes> this year we found that these large companies have improved significantly within our data set so large companies ended up being in the sweet spot for this year but what's interesting when you look at our data set our data set has so many more cloud providers software as a service solutions infrastructure service service platforms of service you name it large companies. Our data set does collect information from the largest cloud providers in the world and also very nici small companies. He's that are putting their solutions in the cloud as well but when you look at the type of business and how that demographic information has changed it also changes is the type of work we're doing so we're doing more work for these cloud providers which are generally the larger companies <hes> which has changed basically the security posture that we've identified died when you remove them were similar to <hes> that sweet spot <hes> leaning towards the middle but because everything's going to the cloud. I think this is going to be a change that not only are businesses going to see every security assessing assessment company is going to see as well and we to adapt as a company. We need to adapt to these changes ages and our clientele have to ensure their positioning themselves for this. I saw this future world that is very cloud centric based on the information information that you gathered here that your sibling for this report what are your recommendations going forward for organizations that are moving to the cloud not to disregard the complexities cities of these cloud organizations as an example within our top vulnerabilities last year. I think security configurations didn't even make the top at five this year. It's number two so understanding how that defense in-depth has to be deployed across the cloud model also looking at solutions from a threat model perspective. Give classical threat modeling on applications applied to <hes> solution architecture early in the development. Life cycle is key to getting a good understanding of you know the significance of some of the controls that are built into these cloud platforms <hes> as well as what needs to be built into the application or solution to be able to augment it. That's mike weber from co fire labs. You can find their penetration risk report on their website crown. Sterling is suing inform us a subsidiary u. B. m. the well known trade show impresario whose offerings include black hat crown sterling an emerging security company. That's emerging into the marketplace from newport. Beach california alleges breach of contract. It's over the poor reception. Its presentation received at black hat. The boo birds were out enforce the presentation that was poorly received discovery of quasi prime numbers. What does this mean for. Encryption was based on a paper accurate and infinite it prime prediction from novel quasi prime analytical methodology by crown sterling c._e._o. Robert e grant and crown sterling physicist and data science consultant went to lau ghanem crown sterling says it stands by its presentation ars technica quotes grant saying quote crown sterling has announced a legitimate. I'm at multidimensional encryption technology that challenges the paradigms of today's encryption framework. We understand that the discovery completely transforms the way we secure data and that some members members of the security industry are resistant to change or accepting of new technologies that do not conform to traditional approaches we completely stand behind all content presented ended at black hat two thousand nineteen and we look forward to presenting further developments about the company and our quantum a._i. Encryption technology and quote in a press us release announcing their lawsuit crown sterling's chief operating officer joseph hopkins said quote we were assured by black hat and it's public code of conduct that our presence would would be treated openly and fairly that did not happen and quote the critics call the method crowns sterling presented snake oil there vigorous ascertain in of that view prompted the lawsuit in addition to naming u. B. m. in their suit to crown sterling is also going after ten does as in john doe a person unknown unknown or at least not named from among the boo birds in fairness to crown sterling. We note that some of the bluebirds were feisty enough to warrant ejection from the conference true in fairness to the bluebirds a mathematician published a proposed refutation of crowns sterling's results last month buzzfeed reports that facebook doc has yet to deliver data it promised academic researchers to support studies into the effect of social media on democratic institutions and processes the problem according into buzzfeed is that facebook has reneged on its offer and that it citing privacy concerns that by implication are convenient and arguably bogus. It's for research research. After all and research in the service of democracy alex stamos now of stanford university and formerly facebook's lead security executive has come out swinging on behalf of his former company. He's engaged various news outlets including gizmodo buzzfeed and the new york times with tweets about their reporting of the cambridge analytic political scandal and other privacy matters. If you want to understand why academic research is being inhibited. He suggests look in the mirror reporters. It would be easy to dismiss this as a vaguely nick saban ian attack on dishonest journalism by which the complainer means journalism. I dislike because it makes me look bad but actually stamos has a point of course facebook is skittish about sharing data with academics when such data might involve the company and privacy violations nations. The company isn't enough hot water over its data handling but it's one thing to raise outrage over data handling and quite another to complain that data aren't being shared shared freely enough. Inconsistent preferences are never a good thing. The road to unhappiness is paved with mutually exclusive. Good intentions nasa nasa inspector general is conducting an inquiry into what may turn out to be the first known case of crime committed from space the new york times reported friday that astronaut taught and mcclain told investigators that she accessed her estranged wife's bank account during a six month tour aboard the international space station she denied moving saving any money from the account and is quoted in heavy as saying she simply check the account to monitor the couple's finances as she has done throughout their time together. The astronauts spouse summer worden filed a complaint with the u._s. Federal trade commission alleging that mclean had committed identity theft miss warden said that she she didn't detect any theft from the account borden's parents independently complained to nasa inspector general alleging that ms mclean had improperly gained access to private financial records in the course of the divorce and attendant child custody fight so perhaps we see something new under the sun an allegation of identify theft omitted from low earth orbit now. It's time for a few words from our sponsor blackberry silence. You probably know all about legacy antivirus protection. It's very good as far as it goes but you know what the bad guys know all about it. A two it will stop the skids but to keep the savvier hoods hands off your end points. Blackberry silence thinks you need something better. Check out the latest version of silence silence optics it turns every endpoint into its own security operation center silence optics deploys algorithms formed by machine learning to offer not only the immediate protection but security that's quick enough to keep up with the threat by watching learning and acting on systems behavior and resources whether you're worried about advanced lanced malware commodity hacking or malicious insiders silence optics can help visit silence dot com to learn more and we thank blackberry silence for we're sponsoring our show <music> joining me once again is craig williams. He's the head of talos outreach at cisco craig. It's always great to have you back. <hes> you and your team have been tracking being <hes> some rats and some steelers <hes> using something that you're referring to is heaven's gate <hes>. There's a lot going on here. So can you sort of give us an overview. What are we tracking here. Let's look at why does exist. I what's the problem with our what are the challenges that face detection antivirus systems systems systems like anthony gotten really good at detecting mauer and so it's basically a cat and mouse game between the good guys and the bad guys and this is a basically a new loader. That's doing some cool stuff that we wanted to make sure people were aware of the reason it's called. Heaven's gate is an old technique that basically allows thirty two bit m- our run on a sixty four bit system to hide hide the a._p._i. Calls by switching to a sixty four bit environment so it's it's a really weird technique it works it's well known and so when you combine that with some of the very sophisticated packing techniques in this hour you can load known maller samples and had them pretty much go undetected through a lot of security purity systems. <hes> the things were used with right now are really crypt a mining and our families like remco so it's it's pretty common. It's pretty effective and so that's that's why i wanted to make sure that we documented it so that you know everyone can be aware of how it works. How competitors can notice the blog and can fix their detection because at the end of the day that's a talent is really out to do we want to wreck mauer's ability to operate if we want to stop their ability to do business and if we have to help our competitors do that we absolutely will and so where there are we when it comes to being able to detect this <hes> naturally we're we're great. <hes> i mean the royal we not not not the cisco we it it depends on where you are our <hes> when you see it right so if you're flying by a wire like same firepower appliance or a network intrusion prevention system this is going to be tricky one right because because it's packed but there are certain things you can look for right <hes> if you're looking at the way he executed has built you can look for certain things that maybe shouldn't be there right <hes> and if you have on the end host while there's definitely a lot of stuff you can do to look got because normal software is not written like this right normal software. 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Author wants to x. right so them our author designs power to you ex within the av company has to stop that because they notice it and it's a risk to their clients and so the a._b._c. company then designs protection around whatever technique that is well then the mauer authors technique is no longer effective and so then he has to evolve his technique and the way that bypasses whatever the a._b. Companies are looking at and so it's really just a game of cat-and-mouse mouse until someone builds the best mounts mouse trap and you'll even notice in the in the blog <hes>. There's a list of types of any virus file names that it's looking for and it's it's not even looking for in a linear way. It's doing it all over the code base so it's much harder to see that's interesting so even do the basics i guess what you would consider bread and butter hearts the functionality of this malware <hes> they're being clever with to make it harder to find right and what happens is when it does hit that particular check if it does has vine that antivirus file it will terminate and it won't execute further i see and so you can imagine running in a sandbox. It's problematic or if you're trying to automate the main analysis it's problematic because they're checking for those types of tools yeah interesting all right well <hes> the blog post titled rats and steelers rush through heaven's heaven's gate with new loader <hes> that is on the tell us intelligence blog craig williams. Thanks for joining us. Thank you and and that's the cyber wire thanks to all of our sponsors for making the cyber wire possible. 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Need Help Saving Dogs' Lives! - Ep. #34

The Dog Show with Nick and Joe

39:40 min | 2 years ago

Need Help Saving Dogs' Lives! - Ep. #34

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Nuked transmitters. Live from oil key nine studios in Virginia. They tell it like they see it. They educated the not so educated and you'll laugh your ass off. Introducing the Doug show with Nick. And Joe a podcast with knowledgeable info rant and absolute randomness. You're listening to this uncensored honesty from two of the most respected dog trainers in the industry live on Facebook. Every Friday at two o'clock eastern standard time new episodes available for download every Saturday the dog show with Nick and Joe download on itunes Google play. And I heart radio off up episode number thirty four week called in emergency episode today. I got my. One of my main guys here. Mr. Elliot hoarding sit across the desk from me. Hurry today. I'm good. I'm good. Good. Good good. So Knicks not with us tonight. Nick, just flew in yesterday from LA he trained Josh heart, which is one of the up and coming stars of the Lakers trained his dog put out quite possibly the best before after video awfully history. So you gotta check that out. We'll put the link below. But he he he flew in. I don't understand this guy schedule man he flew in yesterday last night. He got in. I think around eight pm any left today at like eleven AM to go to Florida to go look at having meeting or look at property. I'm not sure what he's no. But you know, they have flights from Florida. Yeah. I think it was kind of one thing about Nick, he never liked plans ahead. He's always like on just gonna go ahead and book my flight, three hours before I have to. Leave for the airport. So so anyhow he'll be back with us next week. And so tonight's episode. The reason why I wanted to do emergency episode because we need everyone out there that is listening and watching right now, we need your help. And let us explain why it is the time of the year where pretty much every state, right? Yeah. Pretty much where the the the delegates get together. And they present they have at least in Virginia. They have forty five days this year. Yeah. We got their session generalists simply session coming in their general assembly session, where they have forty five days every day ver- consecutive forty five days to present new bills for the state thousands of bills. Right. I mean, a lot of them get shit canned lot of them get thrown out or they're even looked at. And then a lot of get of pass through right? Yeah. It's a tough process. And there are a lot a lot of good bills out this year that I I was. The other night. I was just going through all of them and a few of them on my Heli Alec that. But the one that we're going to discuss tonight is house Bill eighteen ninety four and why don't you first of all let me enter introduce yourself. Just Elliot's been on here before. But let's for those who haven't seen that episode tell everyone who your so, I'm Elliot Harding. I'm an attorney out of Charlottesville Albemarle county areas. Central Virginia do a lot of different types of litigation a lot of criminal defense work. But through my work over the past two years have been pulled into a lot of cases involving dog owners and various cases, whether it's ones were dogs got bit dogs by people, but dogs by other dogs dogs. Get injured maybe a dog had a bad issue at a vet maybe dog got stolen tons of different stuff involving dogs. So that's kinda unique little niche of practice a stumbled on and. Then something was four years ago with Nico tell us that story because in all reality. That's how this Bill is even coming to light like you or I don't think most people realize this your the man behind HP eighteen ninety four for the most part. I gotta give a lot of credit to delegate Michael Weber. Of course, of course, he is the vehicle for this Bill. If it wasn't for him this Bill wouldn't be going through. But I will give a little story about Nico not going any. Now, you're good. So Niko story is how I even got into representing any dog owners in any situation back in two thousand fourteen December of twenty fourteen Nico at a run in with a cat. Neighbor's cat cat was found dead in the neighbor's yard. Nico was in the neighbor's yard and animal control, an owner of the cat try to put two in to gather, and they found that Nico killed the cat. According to the courts. And so after that incident, he was ordered to be put down and. His owner. This is in December of fourteen when the incident goes down he has to owners one of his owners is found guilty of this situation. So she she gets a misdemeanor. She does all the appeals for her case they all exhaust and then by twenty sixteen so two years later or almost two years later. She's exhausted all of her appeals in the courts ordered the dog to be put down in December of sixteen. And that's when I get contacted because I'm an owner of a pit bull and had mutual friends, and they asked, you know, is there anything you can do. And I looked into the case and realize, well, there's another owner in this case there are a couple and they live together, and they both been taking care of this dog. And they they've both been held responsible for this dog and other situations. So she's never been convicted of this crime. She's never been subject to a trial where her rights haven't been adjudicated. And so from a property standpoint. She's free and clear, and you can't forfeit in destroy somebody's property unless they go through a trial, unless they go through due process getting a hearing and so represented her I filed the appeals now or two years later after that. And so it's been four years from time the cat died two now, and we wanted the supreme court once now it's going back before the Virginia supreme court. But in this is how the Bill comes to light over these past few years of been pulled into other cases as well involving dangerous dog proceedings. And we've noticed a lot of flaws where it's not uniformly applied. And sometimes very often the dogs are subject to being put down because the owner didn't follow the conditions that are required in that happened in NICO's case too where they didn't necessarily pay the fees. They didn't put up the fence or put him on a muzzle and things like that where you have all these conditions of owning a dangerous dog. And if you failed to. Adhere to them the court can either give an owner thirty days to fix it. Or they can just put the dog down. And we we realize that that's a flaw in the law that in those situations the dog hasn't done anything. You know, the dog can't put the muzzle on himself. I mean, y'all could probably train a dog to do that. But you know, they don't put up the signs. They don't they can't pay the homeowners insurance. So if you fail to have all this conditions. The court can put the dog down for no reason, do we have in number of how many dogs have died dude to the owners not complying with the court's. I don't have dive the right? It's gotta be. It's gotta be up there. And I'll tell you that that one is too many. I mean, I've seen the anxiety on an owner on those situations where you know, they can't comply. Maybe they're a renter. Right. Maybe maybe they live in a condo or an apartment. How are you gonna put up the wear of dog signs in an apartment? So here's. Where it gets a little weird to everyone out. There listening is in the same situation. Let's just use Nico for an example, if Niko were to kill a chicken instead of a cat, what would have happened. So there's a unique provision in the law for livestock versus dogs or cats are companion animals, and so that's how the law kind of differentiates between the two, and it's a dog goes on and kills a chicken, some other livestock. The courts can either keep the dog with the owner and have them comply with a bunch of conditions. They can order the dog to be put down and those things apply the companion animal or they can require the dog to be transferred to another owner in another jurisdiction or transferred out of state to a state that doesn't border Virginia. So they get more outs if they attack chicken, then if they attack a cat, and that that doesn't make any sense. And now there's a lot. people out there that'll say all you know, if dog kills another dog than it should be put down, you know, it shouldn't get a second chance but coming from a trainer standpoint. Okay. There's such thing as called prey drive, and it it's a real thing in a lot of breeds and a lot of dogs, and it is a primal natural instinct of those dogs to go after things that are moving. Okay. Cats rabbits, small dogs, whatever that's more training comes in. Okay. It is their natural primal instinct to go. After that, eat it kill it. Whatever. I mean that is their instincts. Right, right. And here's my argument, we domesticated this animal, right? They are in our homes because of us we always it to them to it least try to save their lives when their primal instincts kick in and try to rehab them to where we can control it, which I know can be done. Right. I know for. You do it all the time a million times. In fact, here's a statistic I came up with this number over the last couple of weeks. My locations just Richmond and Fredericksburg alone have trained over three thousand dollars local dogs. Several of those dogs have come to us with dog aggression. Categorization pray dry. Okay. A lot of those dogs have came to us after they were already Corentin by animal control because they did another dog and they were on the dangerous dog less and we were able to rehab him not take their prey drive out of them. But make it manageable toward the owners could control it out of all three thousand plus dogs. One time have I recommended euthanasia one time. Well, and the reason why was just genetics at that point. And it wasn't toward just animals. It was towards humans, and that's the difference. That's a big deal. It's a huge deal the law that we're describing especially with the amendments that we're gonna talk about here in a little bit. But none of this has to do with humor. Cnn's right. You can be deemed dangerous if there's a slight injury to a human. But if there's a serious injury or kills a human, and you hear these horror stories, that's a vicious dog. And that's a legal term so dangerous is legal in vicious legal. I mean, we might say things are dangerous in jerk wheel terms, but from a legal standpoint of vicious dog is a dog that has a serious injury to a human. And so when we hear these stories about dog killed a child or dog that killed the L elderly person or any situation like that or, you know, inflicted serious wounds where someone had to go to the ER, and and get you know, cosmetic surgery or something at the end of the day. That's a very different Bill very different law, and nothing we're talking about here is trying to change that system. So going off of that I've never seen a dog that couldn't be managed with just in active prey drive writ with the right owner the right training, the right rehabing. Tation whatever takes right by no means do I believe that. If a dog bites another dog charges oppress gets labeled dangerous owner doesn't follow through on their end. Right, by no way. Should anybody agree that because of that the dog should be put down, and that's the fucking law? Excuse my language right now and it shit. Yeah. It has shit how there are thousands of dogs nine every single year in the state of Virginia because of this because of the current laws that are in place, and it's arbitrarily enforced, which is unfortunate because the way it works is like we said the court can give thirty days for the owner to get their act together for the dog can be given or transferred to the local authorities to be disposed of and disposed of now to the localities credit into the statutes credit disposed of. Does not only include euthanasia, but a significant I've yet to hear of one that doesn't have this all the localities of the policy of just pulling them now. Sure because they can't they shelters or full, blah, blah, blah, our liability to think about it from their standpoint, they have internal policies insurance issues all the stuff where they're not adopting out the dog that's been deemed dangerous. And so what ends up happening? They put it down. Now, usually Nick an IRA against government stepping in on shit because we feel like they already step in too much stuff as it is. However in this case, there's a flaw system that needs to be fixed. If you have it on you I would like for you to read a few of the highlights of Bill eight house Bill eighteen ninety four share. So I'm going to read it. The the statute itself is it's being amended is of Virginia code three point two sixty five forty that's Virginia's dangerous. Glow. And I'll just read a few lines of this amendment or this Bill. So this is what will say upon conviction. And so this is for subsection 'em. This is your dogs been deemed dangerous, you're the owner of a dangerous dog and you have failed to comply with the conditions of ownership of dangerous stub and says upon conviction the court may grant the owner up to thirty days to comply with the requirements of the section during which time the dog shall remain in the custody of animal control officer until compliance has been verified. And this is where the changes are made or order that the dangerous dog be transferred at the owner's expense to another owner whom the court deems appropriate or if the dog was deemed dangerous pursuant to subdivision one which is a companion animal issue or that the dangerous dog be removed to another state that does not border on the Commonwealth following notification of the procreate local authority and be prohibited from returning to the Commonwealth than this is a big thing if the. Court in a written finding determines that. None of these options is appropriate. The court may order that the dangerous dog be disposed of by the local governing body pursuant to the code section. So what that means is we're not forcing the courts to transfer it to another owner. We're not forcing the courts transferred out of state. They just have to consider that synopsis additional option and in practice. What will end up happening is? I mean in reality a lot of these cases, we got these world counties. You know, it's not like there's a huge public notice given out to the country with all these organizations that we know of it's not like there's a bunch of third parties that are just ready to hop in and take every dangerous dog in the world. So what will happen is a lot of the times of quarrel say has there been any contact to the shelter has there been any contact to the owner? Is there anyone else out there? That's trying to take the dog and in very very often that might not happen, right? But in the situation where the owner can't have a dangerous dog at their apartment, or whatever they have time to go out. Out and find whether something had a state, a friend family family member to someone, you know, through various networks that might be a more appropriate owner that can comply with those conditions might come to y'all might come to another group to get that training that they need and be responsible. I'll also note that any dangerous dog that's ordered to be removed from the Commonwealth but Slater found in the Commonwealth then they will order it to be euthanized immediately, which is fair. I mean, that's the point is if the court has determined that it's such a big deal that we want this dog out of the state now, you're just talking about legal compliance component stuff. And that's because the courts deemed it subject relieving be moved out of state. So that's a provision. All that stuff. All that texts that we talked about is in the livestock provision chance where we took the text from. So we're just trying to make it equal. Sure. No. And make sense. Yeah. Okay. So let's talk about where we're at right now. So a. Couple of weeks ago Elliott hit me up, and he he spoke of this Bill to me, and he explained it to me, and he asked if I would support it, and I said Absolutely I'll support anytime that there's an opportunity for dogs lives to be saved due to human neglect, especially I'm going to support the shit out of that. So he said all right cool. Let's see how let's see how much you're going to support it next Monday. We gotta meet at the general assembly to go in front of the subcommittee of agriculture department might case with delegate wet Weber Weber. And I said Coleman I'm there. So I show up. You're ready to get ready to go men a hat on Manno fucking dressed up for the first time in like ten years. It was amazing. Right. So I show up. I'm ready to go not only is Elliott their tobacco delegate Weber. But we have I won't say which organizations out of respect. Okay. Humane society. Okay. Absolutely behind this Bill. They see humane society a lot of SPCA's. I know that the local SPCA my area supported and then Virginia animal Control Association, we made some tweaks that they're on board at first they had some issue, and they had a captain show up to to also fight with us. And so we show up we sit in front of the subcommittee of agriculture department. And they start discussing it with delegate Weber and everyone at the at the table seems pretty open to this. And they say, you know, let's just put emotionless put a vote up right now. Yeah. And they did and it past six to two, but that those two votes I can explain. Yeah. They were they were provisionals go ahead. So what happens is you got? You got in the house side, you got agricultural committee within that you got these subcommittees and no Bill gets to the full committee which about thirty or twenty members without getting through a subcommittee. I it's like a screen. And so the subcommittee has sixty two but what was happening during that? Hearing is they wanted one amendment to be made. It was about the notification of local, you know, if you transferred out and so because it wasn't written out yet. Sure. Enough someone or early said, can we do this and it required? Someone to draft it up for the next hearing one member wanted to flag it in order for the higher absolute committee to understand that we still need to see the texts before grammatical. Yes. Yeah. Exactly. Because if it went through unit unanimously without seeing anything usually that's a signal to the higher committed his passer yet. And so they wanted to create a pause. So that's why was six to two wasn't sixty two because people were against it. It was just a procedure in all honesty was eight oh, so pacifying colors, even the chairman of the subcommittee looked out into the audience which were fifty plus people and said do we have anybody that opposes literally? It was silent. Now. John in there. So man, we all high five each other. We go and delegate Weber's office congratulate in each other. And we're ready to move on to the full committee. Right. And the next day. I get a text from Elliot going. We have a problem, and I said shit. So explain to me. What you? Yeah. Yeah. Explain explain everyone, which you which you explain to me. So what I understand? And hopefully, it doesn't end up being a big issue long-term, but it is for right now because we're back at square one is on from what I understand an organization out of the Tidewater area. Virginia contacted a few members of the committee and said we're against the Bill and had we been there. We would have opposed it. And I think ultimately the chairman understood that took their concerns to heart and said, well, the reason that I don't want to speak for him. I don't know what he said. But my understanding is the reason all of us didn't testify is. Because it wasn't opposed knows. So why why have six people sit there? Absolutely. Why take time for other bills? Right. And so because now there's this group that did oppose it. I think he wants to be. Fair and give everybody their day. And so he at his discretion. He can send it back down to the sub committee to be heard again. And so from what I understand is on Monday the twenty first so four days from now at four thirty. We're only through the process all over again. And I think at this point all of us are going to have to talking to fight fight it out and I've seen their concerns, and we can talk more about that. But that's what happened. This was a public Milia or. No, can I I'm not gonna say the name, but can highlight some points consigned the points. The okay. So I'm not going to say the name of the organization. Just yet anybody who knows me knows that I will call them out and do time. But for protection of this Bill, I'm not going to the moment. But this is their Email letter to the delegates, and I'm just gonna go highlight over. Yeah, I'm gonna highlight over some stuff essentially it says this organization opposes. This Bill well-intended it puts public health and safety at risk. They talk about how Virginia Dopp did dangerous dog statute to allow owners to keep an animal that has been found by a court to have attacked and injured another animal or human. This Bill will abandon that provision for some future owners. Here's the here's the debunked to that is this is this isn't about human aggression. This is about this is about dog on dog. This isn't even necessarily about aggression. This could be simply about prey drive. Right. I mean, here's the kicker. I've seen cases where both dogs of dangerous. Yeah. Because two dogs going at each other. They both injury other. How should he is that or it's just the larger dog this team dangerous because he's the one that made it out of the fight where it's like I mean, the current conditions on permitting dog deemed dangerous by the court allows the dog to remain in the community such as. As Muslims the dog if being walked insecure housing arrangements. So they're justified for the current law. Unfortunately, they leave out. The main reason why we are putting this Bill. We we wanted to be here. And that's not changing see that's the big thing that people don't realize under current law. Viola dangerous dog I can transfer it to another owner that that owner can transfer as long as every owner is complying with the conditions of owning a dangerous dog. It doesn't matter. And that's what we're saying. The same new owner under this situation. At least within Virginia is going to have to comply with the dangerous dog laws and says, sadly, finally says, sadly, we will never know whether this charge whether this change results in a danger to public health and safety because what happens in another state may not be reported to Virginia again again, again, again, we are not dealing with dogs that are going out and mauling human. We're going out. And trying to protect the dogs lives of the ones they get dog fights. Or the owners of the other dog is filing charges against you know, the dog that may be started at maybe didn't and were protecting that dog from owner negligence from at least giving the judge option right to protect that dog from owner negligence due to not following court rowing. I would call this is a bad owner Bill and that is as beautiful the bad dog notes about owner. And no offense owner I understand why people can't comply sometimes they're in a bad living situation. Sometimes they're broke. Sometimes, you know, they forget sometimes the dog just gets out one day, you know, and they don't have a muzzle because it squeezed through the through the door, you know, accidents happen life happens. But at the end of the day, you gotta be responsible, right? And sometimes circumstances happen where you can't take care of him anymore. And so. The dog shouldn't be punished for that the dog should be able to be given that second chance, man. I completely agree. I completely agree, obviously. Which is why I'm fighting with you in why I'm willing to go through whatever it takes with you to get this get this through. So let's let's let's fill everybody in on on the on the process here. So let's assume we pass and we get another eight oh vote on Monday where where are we going next? So once that's done it'll go to the full act committee. Probably today's later on Wednesday the twenty third they might wait another week. But I doubt it. So then it goes the full committee which will be at the morning that'll be like nine in the morning, and if it passes there, then go to the house floor, and that's when all hundred members of the general assembly, all of the Virginia house votes on it. And I'd imagine that it'll pass if he can get out of committee because of the way that the parties breakdown the fact that it's a repeat. Publican control legislature. And that means you have a Republican committee of Republican sponsor, but a lot of Democrats support this Bill to its bipartisan, and it should be because it makes common sense and everybody cares about animals generally from abroad standpoint. So I expected get from the house. But then if it gets through the house it'll go over to the Senate and on February fifth. That's when all the bills that have passed the house, go to this Virginia Senate there, we kinda started all over again, it goes through their ad committee to the Senate floor, then hopefully passes that and then it goes the governor status, and then the government signs, and then or vetoes I think he would pass I think it would too. I think he would pass this one. It'd makes it makes too much sense and vicious good Paul. And I'm hoping that I don't have to publicly call out this organization that opposed it earlier this week because I'm hoping that they just don't understand it and on Monday when we go. There to explain it to them that they'll go. All right. We're at it. Sorry, ignore Email. Right. That would be great. It's unfortunate because I've seen this. All ready a few times where people get confused there are horror stories out there, you mentioned earlier like the one out of three thousand where you know, this bad crazy scenario where the dogs has had bad outlook in like, it's not gonna work. They always pin point. This one case that I'm familiar with where dog came from New York to Virginia Beach and end up leading in two fatality with the older woman and likely said before we're not shipping dogs out a state that have had any negative human interaction. Yeah. It's not like we're saying, hey, your dog bit me. So send it to New Mexico. Let let it be their problem. That's not what this Bill is about. This Bill is is just simply about given the judge in additional option to help save this dog's life, and it's in spirits, it's purse situation. Right. That's the biggest thing. Like, it's not a blanket thing. Like every case just like humans xactly, right? Every case is different. And the judge has to take all those differences into consideration. When making his his or her alternate decision on the matter. What this does is it gives that judge another option to say, hey, if that owners shit bag, you still have the option to save this dog's life by executing HP eighteen ninety four and I will say this. If we get two months for now, we get through this process less than two months, but if we get through this process, and it gets done. And now we live in this world where the dogs have more options. It's gonna be on us and the audience to think about whether it's talking to your local organizations, or whatever supporting organizations that are there to step in, you know, because as I was saying earlier for in a situation where nobody wants to step in and help these dogs this Bill doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. If if no one's helping provide. Those opportunities. It's it's obviously something that I'm pretty passionate about just I mean, this is this is this is business, man. You know what? I mean, this is this is our lives. One thing that killed me is talking with one of the other stakeholders in the situation, I was asked well, how many chances how many chances are we going to get these dogs? Don't you believe that there are some dogs that just are are beyond repair and said, ma'am under the situation, they will have only been found dangerous once right? That's hell the law's written on and she and she said, well, don't you think sometimes those are aggressive dogs put down I said than you want to change the law, and you want to change the law to have a one one bite one kill policy. That's not how the laws thick. So anyone out there who thinks oh if a dog killed my pet, I would wanna put down then you should be trying to change the law because that's not what the law says I would disagree with that. But the law doesn't call for that. So anyone who thinks that we're being like relaxing on what the law, currently home more? We're not all recognize. The dogs can be rehabilitated. And that's why I said all this is really doing his giving the judge in additional option because there are a lot of cases where it shouldn't be blanketed right at all, right? And this gives that judge option were like, okay. This was just a, you know, a regular dogfight at a dog park, and you know, the owners and asshole solicitous, let's give the dog to the ankle who lives in Idaho. Rhino. What I mean? Nothing wrong with that nothing. And if they want to notify the state of Idaho, fucking notify them who cares. You know, what I mean said earlier chickens that options already there? Yeah. Unbelievable. So let's let's let's talk about how the listeners that are going to download this tomorrow and. The viewers how they can how they can help us between because this there's a reason why we did this emergency episode. How can they help us Elliott? So the best thing you can do your on Facebook. I guess if you're watching this you don't necessarily have to be your own platforms. If you're on Facebook follow Joe, I know that he's a posted out there. You can find me Elliott Harding on Facebook got a list of all the delegates who are on the subcommittee on this subcommittee on Monday. We've got their phone number. We've got their Email address. It's most effective if you contact your own delegate. So even if even if you live outside of these delegates on this list, if you live outside of their area, you can contact delegates. Also, contact her own say, hey, you know, I know that you're not on this subcommittee. But please support this Bill keep it in mind and talk to your colleagues about it. But also contact the ones on the sub. Committee because they're getting bombarded with some of the most wild inflammatory emails of ever seen with the grotesque pictures of things that have nothing to do with this case, and I can tell you that those organizations are doing themselves to service so be kind to these delegates. Just ask them generally to support delegate, Mike Weber tes, that's W E B RT Mike Weber could guard by the way are really like dude guy, and you know, for him to take this on his rate is awesome. He's a farmer. He had dogs in his office. He's got his dog. That's undergoing cattle training right now. But yet contact them via Email or phone and ask them to support eighteen ninety four and especially those on the sub agricultural subcommittee number one. I can rattle off a few names. The chairman is a berry night. He's seen a lot of Agassi's. A lot of dog cases come through this committee. So he's very familiar with it. He's the one that wanted to mimic. So that we could communicate with the other states reach out to him and say, hey, you know, this is a good law. It separates potentially good owner. I mean good dogs from bad owners. And that's the real thing we want to we want to address here. And then, of course, stay stay on top of the Bill. You know, if it passes we're going to need even more support to talk to the full committee because that's even more people. But if we can get it passed his first hurdle. It's like a snowball effect starts build momentum. And it looks better in better each day. So really between now and Monday follow Joe on Facebook, follow me all posted on the dog show a Facebook page on Instagram on do it with your friends, you know, share it when people that that might live throughout Virginia because we need all the Commonwealth. Find in the big thing. I wanna I wanna say is when you contact if you do we hope you guys, please do this. You will you could have a helping hand in saving litter. Really thousands upon thousands of dogs lives for many years to come in the Commonwealth call them, but beat be nice. You don't have you don't have to be a dick, right? Just call them. And just say, hey, just wanna let you know that we support HP house Bill eighteen ninety four and we back delegate Weber in this as and go find delegate Weber on Facebook and give him a thanks Joan this. Yes, as you know, let's say worst case scenario for some reason the Bill died on Monday, he took a shot he exposed himself. Gotta appreciate and people should thank him for. Thank you for sticking up for the results of the dogs because there's not many of them out there. That'll do it now because it's so emotional and people are very touchy about it's touching. It's like children, but they're innocent because the dog this a big issue the so we are going to keep you guys updated. Again, we are meeting back with them on the subcommittee of the agriculture department. Whatever its agriculture committee. What? Ever. Mean with him Monday of four thirty in Richmond. And then we will keep you guys updated. I will post that night. What happens, and we'll keep you guys update. If you vote if you if you end up calling your delegate message us comment underneath this video, let us know that you supported not only this episode, but you supported this Bill, and you did your part and help in saving thousands of dogs lives. And I promise you, I promise you that. You're gonna have a real big smile on your face that knowing that you had a hand in it. Once this Bill is passed in just a few short months. So Elliott, thank you for joining us tonight man, the time and thank you for your your support. And thank you again for being willing and ready to come south on Monday. Of course, men, and we will keep you guys updated. See you next week. The show. Ready? The dog show. Joe is. Going down the chain leash. Brad gay every week duck show cast. Indeed. 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"Great news. There's a quick way. You can save money. Switch to Geico. Geico could help you get great coverage at a great price. And it only takes fifteen minutes to see if you could save fifteen percent or more on car insurance. Go to Geico dot com today and see how much you could save. Morning. It is time to get up with the Sixers who were flat out awful last night and find themselves one loss away from the process taking a huge step in the wrong direction. Plus is this the last night we will see kyri Irving and a Celtic uniform, we'll as Charles Berkeley wedding joins us live in thirty minutes. And once and for all through the Cowboys need to pay that man right now, I'll tell you why it might just be a huge mistake if they do all that and more as we get up with you starting right now. Here we go. Jalen is ready, and the swaggie this is going to be an interesting day because we are about to have our first fight octave. You know? You know, we, Yup. Love we've been a nice relationship. You what I'm telling you right now or about to see if it could withstand our first fighting that's on the way, but we begin with a team that didn't put up much of one last night. Jalen game tonight. Maybe not Sixers raptors game five Joa be just walking in the door has he looked? He looked like he didn't won't no problems with the raptors not at all. He struggled against them the entire season. Now, he wouldn't call us that many last night. That's for sure I get Embiid. He's sick. He's playing sick. There's a lot of talk about him being sick, and candidly, he's just turning it over in the raptors turning defense into offense. There's easily with the jam raptors four second quarter is where they just ran away and hit again Embiid with a turnover and the raptors are off to the right. So while Leonard does the best job in the NBA converting from defense to offense. And here he goes with the assistant top to Mark the sole who've been terrific this series. And again that is the picture or maybe this is the picture that would summarize the night for the Sixers minutes ago in the half. Another man's to sixteen point game. Danny green. Yes. Look a drink. This didn't go right? You're looking for. Hi fi. How do you leave Drake hanging? Kuwano later. I just up the ramp completed by twenty one points at halftime. And the question is wouldn't get closer. And the answer is. No, that's exactly right. Third quarter. It's at twenty one point game in Ben Simmons doing what he does best turning it over. And here we go the other way, the outlet Siaka look at the fans outside in Jurassic Park. They love it. That's terrific seeing T dot stand up. They're going crazy. And here's again, oh, he didn't ever tonight because he didn't that Iraq the baby right there in the face of Jilin bead rafters by twenty two after three fourth quarter. You know, what's going? Well, when Chloe Larry is drilling outside show check. How are we found a way to get himself going the last two games? Dreamy ended up with nineteen hit a top three that one basically sealed it as though it needed to be sealed. There's Embiid going out of the game. And look Drake his trolling. And I and with that flying thing thirteen point eight turnovers for Joel Embiid. It was brutal. Night Rapids winning take control one twenty five eighty nine. Sucks. You know? I know I got to about a job for us to win. Gotta do the little things when a knitted this call the ball gotta show up. It just wasn't there. Officers in their defense was in their terrible tonight thing we lay in. No, no other way to put it. We have if I was a coach I wouldn't even show the family move on. We're gonna ask it simple as that all the way to put it. We know we have to do. So we got to do it at home. Okay. So the rappers win by thirty six that's the third largest margin of victory in a best of seven series tied at two the only teams to win by more with the all nine Lakers in sixteen calves both of them went on to win the series. So history his point is not on Philly side, and neither is momentum. And neither is the Madi language and the facial expression in the health. So so I'm just what I mean. What do we say about Joel Embiid right now, first and foremost, he struggled basically against Toronto Raptors the entire year. He's had more turnovers than assists against them. Okay. So it's not just display all series. But he's being flat out awful awful in four of the games. Now in the one game. He got off like Drake disillusioned too. He did a lot of front. Running broke down on NBA countdown. He made nine baskets that game, greedy. He's celebrated after five of them. Okay. Did the hulk HOGAN to the ear? He did the airplane. He did the shimmy. He was filling the so but the Toronto Raptors took that personal kinda like day. Lillard did with. Okay, see, and they showed that to their team. And they made sure that he wasn't going to do that. Again, mark. The sole did a terrific job of defending him and knock down threes. Thirty soldier Bach as the primary defender, PASCAL Jaka made them work when he was guarded him off instantly. Joel Embiid had eight turnovers you can have your all NBA performer, not show up in the biggest games of the year. Listen Joel Embiid is a guy who before the season began in full exposing myself here, I picked him to be the MVP the league because I thought he was ready to take that next step. But from maturity standpoint whenever things go badly. He's got a lot to complain about. When he's not getting the ball enough. He's got a lot to complain about when things are going well to your point he's dancing, and he's having a very good time. Is that a guy that personality agai you can build a championship team around that personality is a guy you could build a team around. But the fact that he's not always available makes me feel like you can't necessarily build around him. And the reason why he won't be in VP is because he won't play. Seventy five games. But you gotta be available during the regular season to win in BP last year in the playoffs. He missed two games this year in the playoffs. He missed a game in game one. We were talking about his knee and gain to we were talking about his stomach in game four. We were talking about him being sick yesterday. We were talking about his illness. So people get sick it happened. However, it's happening at the biggest time of the year. When his squad needs them, the most he is this a referendum on the process as we speak right now and going absolutely it is because if you think about it your best players have distinct flaws, I just talked about Joel Embiid and his lack of health with his injury concerns, and they'd been Simmons won't shoot the basketball outside of the pain. Again, I didn't say can't shoot the basketball outside of the pain. I say won't he'd been playing basketball is entire life for somebody to get to the NBA and won't take an attempt outside of the paint. And he plays point guard a hampers. Offense. It creates an anchor next year big guy Joel Embiid because he doesn't create space. So what does that mean? What are NBA Simmons going forward? There's supposed to be the cornerstones of the franchise where does it go? I think what they should be trying to do is big Jimmy Butler to stay. Okay. Yeah. That's what they should be trying to do to by his hairs has not showed a big time in this series as well. But I don't believe based on the process. They're going to be championship ready with Joel Embiid Embiid and Simmons as their two best players anymore. When you say that Ben Simmons won't shoot from outside the paint. I assume it's because he knows he can't shoot from outside the paint. Should he be taking these shots? It's all about confidence. He's been playing basketball his entire life. But you're the one who told me he shooting with the wrong. Correct. I said that on the night that he got draft. Yeah. This take about this greenie. Here's a guy too. So very talented Big Ben Simmons can dribble he can defend he could finish at the hoop. But as a primary. Ball handler at some point. You gotta make a shot outside of the pay. Have you ever seen a player not shoot a basketball outside of the pain their plays on a perimeter? I have never seen this take place. So therefore when he's on the baseline, the Joel Embiid is trying to post up that creates a double team situation every time. So I guess what we're leading to here is the question if the process is ever going to get to which ultimately destination, which is a championship is Ben Simmons going to be the point guard on that too. No, no. I feel like if you're going to decide to build around Joel Embiid that means trading Benson's. I don't think say that again. Trading benson. Yes. I think if you if you're going to decide to build around Joel Embiid you have to trae Ben Simmons, those are the two pillars of your team. Okay. Ben Simmons won't shoot the ball outside of the pain. And he can't make free throws when the playoffs come in a game slows down you won't be in the post not at the three point line. If they've been Simmons. On the baseline in the dunk spot. There's really no true room the operate if what into maximize their potential so when when it was said last week, I think it was Jared Dudley. Whoever was that said it, I'm blanking for a moment on who. It was. I think it was deadly. Who said you get into a half court game? He's an average player. He's right, right. Yeah. That's accurate state. It is I agree. What would he say? Jimmy was accurate when you get when you have broken floor situations. Steals blocks deflections, long rebounds. Oh, you can't stop. He. He's an off star player but the playoffs are a different game. And when it slow if they were playing all patients space with the floor open. Then you couldn't stop them from getting to the bucket. But since they have an anchor low Joel Embiid now him not being able to shoot becomes a factor. And it hurts their off in the process is in trouble. They need to wins or to all over for at least this season. Meantime, we got the biggest game of the NBA season tonight rockets to all right now with the warriors on the road thirty eight and ten from harden. The other night game five is tonight. Obviously this one critical in a variety of different ways. And so. We bring it back out here. To think about this. What do we expect tonight? What is it? We're watching for tonight to get a sense of what we were expecting to happen as the game goes, I expect the Golden State Warriors to play a lot better. I four mo- Steph curry guy going somewhat in the previous game office. He had thirty points. But at some point they can't continue to junk their defense by trying to hide Steph curry at some point he has to guard the person that's in front of him on certain possessions in own that also for Klay Thompson, he has to shoot the ball better. I know it takes a lot out of you. When you trying to guard James harden, and it frustrates you. When he continues to make contesting shots, but they need clay who I consider the best option in the league to play a lot better. Draymond green is being consistent. K D has been outstanding Ken Andre ego. Dolla score double figures, which he didn't in the previous game. Here's a sentence. I never thought I would here myself state. Kevin Durant needs more help team. He has to step up and up. We're talking about was he took the easy way out. Now here he is trying to drag these guys through and you were right. But let me go back to one thing. You just said Steph curry is to guard is man who can guard who on that team who that he is staring across that can he actually go you hope that he could guard Eric gourd, you think because he's not more and got what seventy pounds on him. But he's not gonna initiate office. A lot of times James harden. You know, he's going to be an isolation situations at the top of the floor. You don't necessarily want them to have those problems C P three is like a fire hydrant out there. He's a physical. He's a physical point guard. He's going to initiate office pick a road situations, and he can body Steph curry up, you hope he could Eric gourd. You hope he could Austin rivers when he's playing minutes. You hope he could guard Shumpert not necessarily primary. Ball handler. Okay. So we will see what happens again, I think a lot of different ways you could look at this would say this is the most important game to this point of the NBA season. All right. We're gonna show you baseball right now, you may be saying, greedy. What are the show you as reds ten minutes into the show? Well, here's why that Mike fires top. A six one out. He's got a no hitter going. And now he needs a little help. We got a little white Kyle farmer and look at your profile. The patch? Take another law and the no hitter is still intact. And fires loves what he sees very next batter. Joey Votto, don't we bought it was broken up the no hitter with a high. No, he hasn't look at Ramon Laureano over the Willie makes the catch. And the no no is intact. Fires fired up, and so is my plants announcer. Listen to this. Back. Get back on believable plays. You'll never see to better plays in sequence than that. So fires going through six. Now, we go to the seven he's throwing a hundred pitches. This is you Haney. Oh Suarez at first base. After a walk Jesse Winker at the plight at way, nita's that's four that says that three he's out of the inning. No hitter through seven. Now, we go to the night fires a hundred and thirty pitches. But he's still got the no no going. It's Suarez at the plate. Fires has already thrown one. No hitter in his career. And now he's throwing Jolie's let the celebration begin. This is about two hundred forty eastern time for fires shuts out the reds to nothing. It is in second career. No hitter. At what point during the game? Did you realize that you were throwing a no no I knew really I don't like when guys say they're not. They don't know you usually. No, you don't want to think about it. So a little bit later, but. Yeah. I mean, I I broke every rule then the book and told him after the seventh no more baserunners. So he knew if he gave up base where he was coming out of the game. Pretty amazing stuff. Darbar couple performance. Buster only have some perspective for us a little later in this hour and the two no hitters that. Fires is thrown have a lot in common. Both for American League. West teams is the only active pitcher with no hitters for multiple teams. He threw one hundred and thirty pitchers in both is the only pitcher in the last thirty years with multiple knows of one hundred thirty pitches. And both who are an interleague play is the only pitcher ever with multiple no hitters in interleague play. Okay. To football recently Cowboys chief operating officer, Steven Jones was asked about Ezekiel Elliott. And he said, quote, he's the straw. If you will that stirs our drink this came after the Cowboys picked up the fifth year option on Zeke for twenty twenty. But now Dallas has some contracts it needs to figure out the Cowboys have to make decisions on their leading passer their leading rusher in the leading receiver from last year. That's Dak Prescott in Amari Cooper. He entering the final years of their contracts Zeke still have two years remaining because of his fifth year option of here is a big swag. Do I will ask you the question again, you were a cowboy and you're in your soul and you played for them. And you live in Dallas do the Cowboys need to take care of Zeke and give him a contract extension as quickly as they can as quickly as they can know, but they need to get it done in a timely manner. Because because Zeke is forty percent off. Right. And we're having a conversation about a position that always has questions about if you extend the guy term, and there are those stories out there, but has twenty one showing you to be injury prone. No has he has he made that Prescott immensely better. Absolutely. Did he was he the only bright spot? When this offense was struggling before. Mark Cooper showed up. Absolutely. So when you look at a player with that much impact on a franchise on organization, Zeke MOS Ranford thousand thousand yards and miss six games. Like the talent is there. But you talk about what he's worth to the organization you pay. Guy. Like, here's the problem. And I hate that. I have to say this. But when you pay a running back, you were always paying them for the past and almost never for the future. I used to have an expression on the old show mamas, don't let your babies grow up to be running backs because their lot in life is to be run into the ground and then moved on from and the Cowboys themselves. Did it just a few years ago? And the reality of it is because they drafted him in the first round they get that fifth year. So he's still got two years left. Do you know what he's going to be three years from now less good than he is? Now, that's the reality. At that position. Here's the thing Jean. They drafted a running back Mike Weber from Ohio State. They wanna pour carries off z. But, but you can't I'll tell you this all the time you and I had this conversation talent agents walking around out there. And when you talk about the NFL, you have guys that are really good NFL players. You have good NFL players, which I was and then you have elite guys Ezekiel Elliott career. Ear has lended itself to being elite and his position. So you pay guys like that? There is a risk for every player that you play. You think the Cowboys wanna make deck the highest paid quarterback? Hell no has played to warrant being highest paid quarterback note. But that is what the market is going to suggest when you play Zeke. You know, exactly what you're get. Right. And I can tell you exactly you just made my point for me that Prescott figures to get better. As time goes on and Zeke is guaranteed to get worse. Listen, I hate saying this. I hate it because it is completely unfair to the running back. He's just getting handed the ball. And you know, what's going to happen? This year. They're talking about scaling back his carries. They're talking about scaling back its touches. And then all of a sudden they're five and four, and you know, what we gotta give Zeke the, Dan Baugh. People start talking. He's going to say give me the ball. And that's what's going to happen. We have a conversation about this every year and everybody talks about the spread offense. And all of the things that's going on. What that hell won the Super Bowl for the patriots. Last year Sony, Michelle, I get it that he's at young running back. There is still validity to the position. There are teams that are paying running backs four playing well like the best the risk. You take for every take take. You wanna talk about that? Yeah. Let's take Tony Romo. Right. They pay. Tony Romo a crazy amount of money. What happened his back, never healed? It's any player the running back position. Obviously there is more risk, but any player in the NFL Amar coop awards eighteen million dollars a year. How do you pay more kube eighteen thousand a year when Oakland he didn't play well over, and I know he came to Dallas and did a tremendous job. The only only only mainstay successfully in your franchise for the last three to four years has been Zeki. Really? That's mainstay. Offense of land has been up and down guys. Been injured fortunate with Trevor's Fergie cats going, oh, Tara Smith and be completely healthy the one guy that. That has been the mainstay you saying don't pay. Yes. Unfortunately, one hundred percent Sony. Michelle was a rookie last year. The patriots of one sixty rebels with six different running bags. You can find someone to do that. And it's not so much about Zeke, not being great as it is about Zeke not being great five years from now where was Todd Gurley with all that money. They were paying them last year and the NFC with it. The Sumer Bori wouldn't he injury? But I we actually just because you're a jets fan. Yeah. Why pay for Bill because they needed something to start the whole thing going? Okay. It is risky and probably in the long run will not wind up easily these something to start the whole thing going, but you don't need something to keep the whole. They listen, I was in favor of the Levy on bell thing. Because I feel like it makes a bit of a statement to the organization, and I think it helps Sam darnold develop which I think is the most important thing. You can do do. I think that three years from now living on will be earning the money, they're paying him. Probably. Now, we know we know scary time because you haven't his compensation that do Twenty-one is damn near don't be a hall of fame of when he finished playing football. And we haven't come sayings about why he shouldn't get paid. Okay. What you just witnessed was man. Swag goes. I fight. Yes. Are we? Okay. All right. Okay. I think everything is. Okay. Everything is fine. And I think we can all agree. I was right. All right. He's still look sick and tired with the Sixers on the brink. We'll as Charles Barkley when he joins us live who gets the most blame Chuck is ten minutes away and three quarterback taken in the first round of the draft Murray Haskins Jones, which one will have the best rookie season. It's not even close that's underway. Audie SPN. Get up is brought to you by show Bonnie and by Pok Mon detective Pika chew rated PG in theaters tomorrow. Guys are going to like this. So the other night, you might remember Nicole Yokich went to the post game press conference, and he was trying to take the microphone out of the stand. Joker member did that. And now, he's got a problem. Look at his is a little taken aback at a little Adam gates thing going there. Okay. Now, look so last night, they just gave it to him that way. Thank you ever did this. That's how dirt used to do it. I just you know, what he he can afford to break. Mike's all I know is September October on this show. I was standing at the big board during a breakdown of how he was about to be done on at this as good and he's funny. He's got yolks. I five minutes. Charles Barkley will. Join us live ragged. Joel embiid. We're going to talk about we're going to we're going to talk about the rockets in the warriors Jianlin we're going head to head with Chuck bar. Charles Barkley never gets any before playoff game. Your home is important. That's why gyco helps make it easy to save on homeowner's insurance because home is more than just a place home is where you have a cute little reading nut for those rainy days when you want to curl up with a good book, but you don't even read. So you just sit in there during thunderstorms and scroll through means on your phone and laugh in the darkness. The Geico insurance agency could help protect the dark Memed filled corner you call home, call Geico in see how easy it is to switch and save on homeowner's insurance. We are back on get up. And again, if you're just joining us, it was not a good night for Joel Embiid and the Sixers north of the border blown out by the raptors now down three to Embiid, just not well thirteen points eight turnovers after the game. This is what has head coach had to say. I think it's grossly unfair some of the criticism that he gets. I I don't understand that. And so it's not ideal. It's you wished he were at shoot around you worse wished he were in film sessions, but he's beheaded temperature for the last few days. It's kept him in bed. And so, you know, take whatever you want out of that answer and and ended with it's not ideal. I wished he was at practice, and I wished he wasn't some film sessions. But he's sick. And so that is where they find themselves in this is where we find the one the only Charles Barkley from TNT in the hall of fame and everything else Charles. It's always our pleasure. So thank you. Let's start there. I'm just going to give you the floor. Jalen talked a lot about Joel Embiid this morning. What do you make of him at this moment in time? What they got to be very concerned. Not just now but going forward with the Sixers the guys miss more games. He's played in. He's a terrific terrific talent. But the best ability is available -bility. But let me say this about the Sixers. He he's he's he says he's heard I'm never going to question of I who said as earth, but those other guys on the Sixers best sticking up join ban. Some of you. You know, cabals Harris Jimmy Butler JJ Rennick, they're sticking up. Join they gotta take some responsibility of job is not gonna be healthy. I mean, everybody's gonna come down on Joel. And that's fair. You gotta stay healthy especially in the playoffs. But those other guys from the Sixers I think getting they getting the whole past especially Ben Simmons. He got a play better, man. I mean, he's got gotta play a lot better. I agree with you Charles and this situation may cause bread costs breath Brown his job. I talked earlier about the fact that if you're going to have Joel Embiid be your anchor and in particular he needs to perform down low. The fact that bid Simmons won't shoot the basketball outside of the paint. And he can't make free throws. I think long term they can't necessarily coexist and maximize both of their individual talent, which means ultimately trading. Ben simmons. What do you think about that? Well, Jalen, first of all I heard you say that this morning, but are you going to put all your eggs in? Joel Embiid basket that's gonna be the big decision 'cause ban even though he can't shoot he can get bell. It just got to work on his game. The Sixers got to force him to get in the gym during the summer shoot a thousand jump shots day a thousand free throws a day because he's a special talent. But like I say this thing has got to be a fluid situation. Come to the health of Joel Embiid. He's a fabulous talent. He's a great kid. What if you case stay healthy? We came Bill NBA team around you playing a simple. I know you. I know you guys turning Canty. I you're talking during the break here you guys are going to travel with the Eastern Conference finals. And so on one side where win away for Toronto from getting there and tonight Milwaukee could play their way there if the. Stop you. Yeah. We already on made our reservations for Milwaukee. There enough. So do you believe tonight is the last time we will see Kyrie Irving a Boston Celtics uniform? Yes. I think it will be I think that is not a good mix there. I think he's not happy there. Also, I don't think I wanna get pompous credits. He said a per I don't want to be thinking of T dot ball fears paper. I don't think we ever can be the best player on your team. He's a very talented player. But from a mental standpoint of being a leader or your franchise that has to live with all the criticism. I don't think he could be the best player on your team to Jalen knows this when you star and you to number one guy, you get all the credit, and that's great. But with things go bad, you get all the brain. And I don't think kyri he and he's a nice kid and a hell of a player with from a mental makeup, especially say, he's going to New York. Listen, if he can't help plan involves he he got no chance of plan in New York. But that's a totally different animal. For me Correze thing Charles is a lot about style. He seems to be a guy that wants to be bought dominant and taking large volume of shots, which means they have to build a team around the guy that wants to be ball dominant kind of like Houston with James harden for caris next situation. So going forward do you feel like his best opportunity to maximize his talent is somewhere? Like New York were they don't currently have a star player or go somewhere like the clippers or nets to outplay expectations. This year. Well, I pay he needs to go and play with a guy. You know, he had his best years obviously with LeBron Cozma bronner's mentally tough enough to beat a number one guy and deal with the criticism. I'll take I think this is going to be the most interesting summer in NBA history. I do I can't wait to see it transpire because you got all these teams that got all this money who think they're gonna get a superstar. There's not enough superstars to go around. There's only two players in the NBA who's going to make you an estimate contended. That's Kevin Durant and Kawhi Leonard. There are a lot of other good players out there, but less you get Katie or Coa Leonard you just go get some good players and be stuck in mediocrity that Charles Barkley with us here. So let's talk about K D for a minute and his team rockets warriors tonight in some ways might be the most important game in the. NBA to this point this year. What have you seen so far in this series? And what you expect to happen. Well to terrific teams. I think is everything that we expected it was going on and be I think the lack of there is really hurting the warriors when he up they thought the Steve Kerr made a mistake when he put in a dollar in the starting lineup because he's the only got who's going to be consistent up there. Vents Zev religious plan with three players and Andre the dollar right now. And I think is coming back to bite them because the rockets they got better deaths, and it just so much pressure on clay in Steph because the rockets are wearing them down. Because this is James harden is the best one on one player on generation he's a handful and to ask those guys to guard James harden and come out against thirty. I think it's been a lot on the warriors would rockets are beaten. At their own game. They're knocking down more threes than the Golden State Warriors. And so do you feel like they have an opportunity to actually win this series? Jalen, I tell you what I think whoever wins the game tonight to foreshadow whoever wins the game tonight is going to win the series. I can't wait for that game tonight. Listen, you got these two great teams. I hope that the NBA. I saw you guys talking earlier you did some great stuff in the preseason. Everybody talking about the rocks in the word, it's should be planning attention to the joker up in Denver. That kid is phenomenal. You said some great things about those guys all year. I know everybody's concern about the rockets and the warriors, but those sleep of your own joker. He's unbelievable. But to get back to my phone to get back to my point whoever wins that game tonight between the rockets and the warriors I'll take gonna win that series. So you love the joker, and Jalen again, it's been on this for a year. But he last time we had you on here. And I know you said it on TNT Portland coming out of the west they're down three to now, if you change your mind on that he's still like Portland to win there. Well. I think they really squandered to series in game four when they were up to two one. Listen, I'm not going to make excuses. The big fella getting hurt for Paul of religious hurt him. But they had to Siri they up to two one with game four at home. Same thing you go back to Toronto when Philly whereas up to two one you cannot lose game forward home. So I feel like Portland. Well, listen, I would not be upset because my bologna no gets have had a fantastic season. And I'm never going to get tired of watching the joker play basketball. He is special big win last night for them. We have their highlights coming up in just a few minutes. Charles barkley. We always appreciate the time. Thank you. See you soon. They for having me guys. Keep up the great work that great Charles Barkley with us here on get up again, as I mentioned, we will cover Denver Portland coming up with highlights and analysis and just a minute and back to some football. You know, what a very good NFL draft night. Tom Brady will explain why he and. His team should be thrilled. Right now. Get on ESPN. Back on get up and Charles Barkley. Just ask for it. And when Charles asks, we always rise to the occasion, Nicola Yokich Jamal Murray and the nuggets and a big game five against Portland. And there was a lot of demo- Marie. And this is great to see Jamal Murray's confidence continue to build as these playoff progress. And that's what sanitary there on the looking at the fingers. Steph Jamal, marina gets up eight you lick the fingers, greedy. So you could send me right? Eighteen point lead at halftime for Denver now, which in nineteen point game. It's murray. It's young kids. Denver Twenty-one his versatility Donald behind able to invert their often. That's millsaps. No. It's murray. Yes. On the put back to twenty eight point game through three quarters, and then more of the same to the fourth. We go which at twenty one point game and took the Cup. Pretty this. Brand of basketball is a little behind the back Yokich with nice touch Murray. Eighteen points and nine assists. Yokich twenty five points, nineteen rebounds, nuggets win and win. Big one twenty four ninety eight they are one win away from the conference final. And yesterday is the third time that Yokich had at least twenty points, fifteen boards and five assists in these playoffs that ties LeBron James for the most in a postseason last ten. Years. So Charles was just talking about it with us. And I will give you credit. We launched this show April second of last year, you have been talking about Denver from then on our is this team, whoever it is that comes out of Golden State Houston is Denver a team that could legitimately make it to the NBA final. Yes. Yes. Yes. They're gonna press who I am -ticipant is going to be the golden stay worse in the next round because they play opposite of what you see for most teams, usually tease like the surround of three point line with four or five guys. Go pick and roll action to try to draw kit Denver's just the opposite. They scored one hundred twenty four points, but they only may eight threes why they're inverting their offense. When you have the joker that can now play outside of the paint. It leaves it over for backdoor cuts white that one, and that's a different brand of basketball. And you're seeing most teams play where you have to Houston Rockets plate. They never cut we watch. So. So this is a center getting a rebound initiating offense. Now, you see Murray cutting you see Harris cutting at prompts the Paul Millsap too because he found his game in this series. He's taken advantage of smaller lineup. And let's just say Charles brought it up you've been saying it forever. Nicole Yokich is the best big in the sport. But he he is the best big man in the world right now. How about this as a voter for all NBA when I've put out the fact on this show that I voted yoke its first teen. I had a lot of people screaming at me about it. How can you not put in beat first team because yo- kiss his team is in the Western Conference had a number to see any needs of in multiple categories. One be made second team his team was in the east and they were third seat and they didn't meet expectations. And now look at how it's playing out in the play. I mean Embiid has sort of a dominating skill set about him that is more eye-popping. But when you if you really sit and watch Yokich play he does every. Thing you always say triple passenger. And he's a seven footer who does all three of those. Here's a perfect example would sometimes when people watch and are analyzed a game. They look for the splash points. So Joel Embiid is loud when he goes to dunk. He's really loud when he's at the press conference. He's looking at me when I score the Yokich doesn't dunk. He can't jump. Okay. And he just lumbers up and down the floor. So a steady people can sleep won't him. Now, all of a sudden, he's putting a big time numbers. We have to pay attention beat. Also, it was a big star in college in the United States and he plays for the Philadelphia. Seventy Sixers and that the Denver Nuggets. The reality is Nicola Yokich is a superstar people just don't know it yet. We got basketball coming your way, by the way, our coverage of the conference semis. Rolls on tomorrow to game sixes on ESPN and ESPN deport this and the ESPN app, you will see raptors Sixers at eight critical game for Philly keeping alive and then Yokich in the nuggets against the trailblazers. NBA countdown starts. All seventy stern on ESPN. At the Coliseum. I told these guys that I was gonna start picking them up, especially in this part gotta be if you want them to put the ball in play. I trust my defense. For the second career. No hitter. So we showed you that last night. They were quite a few other interesting things that happened in baseball may run the basis for you quickly here that was just one big highlight. Here's another Bryce Harper breaking out of a seven for fifty three slump with a grain slam fills eleven to one over the cardinals Harper's four th career grand slam his first since April of twenty seventeen Phillies now twenty and fifteen on the year. Elsewhere how about walking them off for Kris Bryant suddenly surging is Bryant and a three run Homer. With two outs in the bottom of the ninth last night beating the Marlins is the cubs. Walk it off. And Brian his homered in three straight. His first walk off home run since his rookie year in two thousand fifteen cubs won fifteen out of nineteen after a slow start to their season and then down to their final two ads. The Yankees last night rallying how about geo or shell up with a game time to run shot that one ties the game and then later in the same inning. It's DJ LeMay who was going to walk them all off with a beta. That scores Cameron may in to win the game five four winner over the Mariners and despite all of their injuries the Yankees continue to win. They've won fifteen of their last twenty. They're just two games behind the raise in the American League east, and it has been far too long since I've seen the face and heard the voice of my friend, Robert Stanbury, only the third otherwise known as BUSTER. Go ahead BUSTER opened up the notebook. What do we have this morning, Madison? Bumgarner again, greedy reminded evaluators have how good he can be. He beat the Colorado Rockies. Second straight strong outing in his last two adding Z's using his fastball. Fifty percent more Bruce boats as manager telling me that he's throwing with a lot more conviction. And this is important because he's going to be the most coveted piece in the trademark it this summer along with Trevor Bauer the Cleveland Indians. He's tremendous with that vast ball right now, you mentioned the Kris Bryant surge that we've seen home runs at each the last three games before Sunday night game this past weekend. Joe mad looked at us in. His office and said, Chris Brian is ready to go like I can see it because his Canucks are settling down. And I don't think it's coincidence that Chris's dad has been in Chicago working with him on that swing and the headline for the angels is Shohei Otani is back and he's in the lineup on a daily basis as a designated hitter. But underneath that really important. Big story. Our fools, of course, has been one of the best hitters in baseball for many years. This is his nineteenth season. He's always been a regular. But with a tiny now serving as the designated hitter. That basically means that pools will share playing time at first base with bore essentially is a platoon KYW a great career winding downgrading. Yeah. No question. So a lot of money left on that deal. Buster it's been too long. We'll see again soon. Thanks. Meanwhile, we die. We have a little earlier start time than normal for baseball. Mariners Yankees at the stadium at six thirty eastern three thirty on the west coast teams battling for the top spots in their respective divisions. You can always watch on the ESPN app. No matter where you may be right back to some football. Here. We had three quarterbacks taken in the first round of the NFL draft, the one the only being swagger, Marcus spears is here we've made up after a fighter this morning, and he's gonna make some bold predictions about them in other rookies, let's start with the quarterbacks swag which of the rookie quarterback's. We'll have the best rookie season. It'll be Haskins the infrastructure is in place. Look, we talk about the only question about the watching the risk is the weapons outside on the on the edges. I think the way has talent lends itself to making those guys a lot better than they are the offensive line is pretty good and not to mention the opposite side of the football. And you know, the conventional pick would be column Murray. But Arab Sona is in flux right now, they have no defense. They have offense of guys that they're trying to identify. They need to draft and in get a collection of offense of lamb. They help this guy in this offense so cliff Kingsbury his first year calamari his first year with not a lot of guys around him is a set of a disaster. I think the way Haskins walks into a way better central chew. Sometimes not getting drafted that high works out pretty the cardinals had the first pick in the draft for a reason. No quest Washington. Middle of the first maybe it winds up working out. Well, think about this greenie the way ask is looking at this defense on paper. He's gonna have a lot of opportunities to make plays offensively. They drafted Montesquieu it rang. Kerrigan. There's there Doron pain is there. They have a lot of guys Linden college. Just went to today's the safety. So they have a defense that can also support him in getting more of those opportunity. Look, I think people forget that thanksgiving they were leading the division. And then the terrible injury to Alex Smith. And that was all she wrote. We will see okay next. Big prediction. Which rookie defensive player will make the biggest impact it will. So many ways to go here. And I notice go hurt your heart 'cause you're going to Williams guys this eight Oliver it Oliver game translates, we talk about this during the NFL draft the -bility to get low the -bility to get into the backfield and create havoc and changed the line of scrimmage. This guy does not play stuck at the lamb scrimmage and the athletic ability to go side to side, we talked about this guy when he was in college a couple of years ago could potentially play linebacker. That's how athletic he is. So you put him in this four three system in buffalo getting up the field moving them around at the tackle position. And he's able to wreak having we his comparisons were Aaron Donald he's that type of player now production. We gotta see as as the future goes on. But add Oliver right now coming out of college can be as disruptive over D Lyman as anybody. So not only do you not pick the jet. But you pick another guy who plays the same positions in the same division my politics. I think that was. That was passive aggressive after the fight. Finally, give us a rookie that you think will surprise everybody. It'll be McCue hairy. Why received for the patriots? Look the body type. He's playing with the greatest of all time at the quarterback position. And this is the nobody talks about g he left Herm Edwards. He already knows how to be approached. And that's the way. Herm Edwards is running that program at Arizona state right now. So you get a big body. You get with Tom Brady, you get in with the best coach in the world in office of system with Josh mcdaniels the put him in a position to be successful. And you just lost the big body a group who's going to be the red area guy, it'd been the keel hairy, and it'll be Sony, Michelle. So he walks into a great situation. And obviously Josh Gordon was in that same mode of body type. I agree. We keep talking about the patriots and their MO is usually to trade out of the first round back to back years at the very end of that first round. They get potentially difference making players, obviously with great, and I agree with you. I think Nicole, Harry is going to be very good. I cannot put notice. That's to AFC east. Guys. You threw in there at the very end. The jets are in good spot. They are in a good spot with easy for you to say continue. Joel embiid. Good spot. Not so much huge part of Phillies process. His nickname was the process coming up. Jalen believes he may now be part of the problem. We'll explain next.

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The Ocho: Housekeeping | 2019 Cowboys Draft Class | BPA Life

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The Ocho: Housekeeping | 2019 Cowboys Draft Class | BPA Life

"Nona. What up world? Welcome to another episode of the Ocho. That's right. Not Osho alive. The Ocho things are a little bit different. And appreciate those of you. Joining us as always you're on the blog of the boys podcast feed. I'm are Joa, of course, from BT be an from right here as you're humble host on the Ocho. Let's go ahead. Let's get into it. Let's have a chat you and me and apologize for the sound quality traveling a bit this week. And so things are a bit different. So if they sound different once again my apologies. Look, I'm gonna be honest and say that I know a lot of listeners and viewers votes alive have been following along. And following me along for the last. I don't know how many years it's been now that we've started doing this thing maybe about four years about four years ago started doing live streams and started actually if you've been around. Long enough. If you follow me and have followed me I used to do these livestream on this app called fan cred. Which was this kind of new thing that was being tried out and fan credit was all about live streaming. And it was like a five minute livestream in. There were no comments or know anything you just had to kind of go at it. And as soon people were watching, and then that kind of ended when periscope started to come around. And so I when fan creek fizzled out, I think fan Kurds backed by the way, just decided, hey, you know, if I'm gonna do this on fan credit, and it's not working anymore. I'm just going to do it on periscope. And then Facebook live start to become a thing. And so live kind of developed into its own sort of thing. But in the middle of all that I had a podcast which at the time was called the Arjo choice show. You might remember that again, if you have followed me along along this journey and the Joe Joa show was, you know, obviously, very cleverly named and it was just discussion about football and the NFL obviously at bit of a cowboy slant, and then everything kind of developed ultimately in digest Ocho live. And we went live used to live streams every day every day every day every day. You know, halftime Cowboys games after Cowboys games after Cowboys breaking news things like that. And Ocho live has been awesome. Okay. I want to say that it's been incredible out of the last couple of years and appreciate more than I can say all the people that have listened and all the people that have watched. But where things are at now. And if you follow me, you know, that my life and my career is taken different trajectories into different paths and things like that. I got married a few months ago. And so it's. Cool to have the internet along for that. Right. And so all the work now that I do a blob in the boys dot com. I've just been thinking about this for a few months now. And since we are in the off season I wanted to experiment, and if you've been listening to Joe live, you know, that we've been doing podcast only episodes on Monday, Wednesday and Friday, and I love doing podcast. I love the platform that podcasts provide it gives us a place to talk and kind of tell stories, and I do so much of that with the work. I do with the SPN San Antonio, obviously communicating in an audio medium. And and so I really like that and kind of playing around with things in the way Ocho live has kind of developed and I've developed and blob in the voices developed of come to a decision, and it's why we have this big preamble before this episode. It is Tuesday April thirtieth, by the way. Welcome to Tuesday. From now on. We're just a podcast to, you know, more live shows not not the way we used to do it. We're not gonna do you live anymore. And so because we're not live anymore. We're we're just going to change the name of what we do to the Ocho because it is still. Oh, that's too. I am so welcome to the Ocho. And so if you follow along, you care, this is how this is going to work from now on and of course, you know, hey, I'm open to suggestions. Or ideas that you the listener might have you can always tweet at me at RJ Chou or you can shoot me an Email RJ dot co Ed Espy nation dot com. The Ocho will go every day. We'll have a podcast episode every single day even through the off season. And I think this allows for the best possible way. To get information information concerning the thing we all love which is the Dallas Cowboys. And when there is breaking news when there are things that warrant alive stream. We'll Bill life. We'll go live on the block of the boys. Facebook live feed. Most of you already like blogging the boys on Facebook. If not you should do it. And I also should mention that we're doing. We have so many plans for such great visual work in in video work on the blog on the boys YouTube channel, I've been working with some some people some fine folks, fellow colleagues nation, we have some big plans for the blog in the boys YouTube channel, so make sure those subscribe there. And so I think this is the best way I've thought about this a long time to really kind of get all of the information that we want to into do the best job that we can. So from now on these podcasts. They're only podcasts we're not going to have live shows that we take the audio impost anymore. And that's kind of how we're gonna roll. So this is the Ocho in again, I can't express I I do think that I can do my job better. And I can be of better service through podcasts only, we can have more interviews here. I know a lot of you have stuck around when we experimented with shindig. And then when we had different ways of putting oats your live together. There were some some cool experiments that we did. But over. Hall. I think this is the best in our podcast feed our podcast channel and our podcast network at blog on the boys and nation is continuing to continuing to grow. So quickly at blog in the boys. For example, we have four different shows. And I know I say this every week or every episode, but we have four shows if you subscribe to the blog on the boys podcast feed on your podcast provider in one place. You get four shows, obviously. Now, you've got the show, formerly. Oh, Joe live. Yeah. The seven five, oh, which I'm on is. Well, I'm one half as well as Tony Casillas two time SuperBowl champion who's part of our team. It'd be you get bruising the boys the Michael size Morin, Tom rile. And you get talking the star in our own lives to such a great job. He's such a great draft. Dude had so many prospects on throughout the entire draft period. And so you get all of that here. And so I really believe that I can do my job to more functional degree through podcasts only. So again, here's the deal. You get a podcast every day. Although got a honeymoon. In a few weeks and vacation in July. So obviously, you will have a few hiccups. But other than that there will be a podcast every day during the season. We'll have a podcast every day. We'll talk about stuff. We'll talk about everything that's happening through a podcast. We'll have so many more interviews than we've had over the last year year and a half because the podcast platform and the podcast medium provides for those opportunities. I hope you you liked that idea. Hope you like that change again, certainly want to hear your thoughts. If you think this is the right way to go. But based on on the experimenting I've done in the feedback that I have solicited. I do feel like this is the best plan for all of us, which makes me excited. So that being said we did have an episode of the seven five oh there went out on Monday. This episode of the show is on Tuesday. And we haven't really had a chance to discuss the Cowboys draft class, just you and me. All right. And so I got into it. But I've got some thoughts and the more. I've thought about it the more I really liked this draft class for the Cowboys. Just. From the perspective of this really kind of like the best player available draft for the Cowboys, obviously with the fiftieth overall pick they took tristen hill. And then what the night if overall pig. They took Khanna McGovern we talked about that before the weekend. And I think those are great picks for the Cowboys. And you know, what was really interesting listening to Chris hall on hanging with the boys talking about even he was talking about how the Khanna McGovern pay might sort of be the first step to replace Lisle Collins, not that CONNER would be the one that's really to do that. But you get the idea domino falling after domino falling. And you think about that? If Lyle Collins does leave in free agency after the two thousand nineteen season you Connor Williams to right tackle who looks huge by the way based on the photos. We saw we got more photos on Monday, you can check my Twitter feed from the Cowboys fishing trip and Cottam govern than sliding into replace Connor at left guard. And so the Cowboys are really I think hedging their bet there. And I think it's important to note they did play games last season without tyrant Smith with. Travis rhetoric, obviously without Zack Martin at one point. And so having depth is a very very good thing. Especially at a position group that is supposed to be your strength. If you're the Dallas Cowboys in the offense of lines. I really liked those picks obviously the first fourth round pick. What what alternately became the only fourth round pick. Really kinda threw people off the Tony Pollard pick at a Memphis is really interesting, by the way, I believe today is his birthday. So if I'm correct very happy birthday to new Dallas Cowboys running back. Tony Pollard who's wearing number thirty six according to the Dallas Cowboys website. That is disgusting. Tony part supposed to be quick shifty out of the spot. Tiebreaking back that do cannot wear thirty six. I believe twenty three is available as far as Cowboys jersey numbers concerned, dude, Tony where Twenty-three please don't thirty six disgusting. Nobody should ever wear that number goodness gracious. But that that pick was kind of weird, obviously. Because you've got Zeke Elliott. I know that we all knew that the Cavs. We're going to draft running back. But I think we all thought okay, they're going to draft a more pure backup more conventional backup. Obviously there were a lot of people were thrown out Damian Harris at Alabama who went to the New England Patriots Trayvon Williams wanted to Cincinnati Bengals broke my heart as an Aggie, but this was kind of weird because he does sort of serve a specific purpose, and we have seen the Cowboys really fail at trying to pull this off. I mean, you look at the most successful version of this scat, BAC, whatever you wanna call it was Lance Dunbar. And by most successful. I mean had a really nice game that one time against the New York Giants in the season opener. Now four years ago. I mean, people were talking to high school graduating class ago was how long ago it's been since the Cowboys kind of utilized this to a great degree ever since. Then. I mean, it's been experimenting. Obviously the Cowboys had you know, Zeke Elliot when they drafted him in that kind of changed in and the then they drafted Ryan switch. Tsar, and they thought that was gonna kinda guy, and then you know, that didn't work out. So they flipped him. And they tried to make take on Austin that guy and that didn't work out and. You know? Hey, I mean, it's gotta work out of intially. Right. This pick the Memphis, the Memphis PA. Tony Pollard pick has Kellen Moore written all over it. It's it's you know. In a way, he will serve as a microcosm of who. Kellyn. Moore's as an offensive coordinator. If Tony Pollard is a functional version of the Cowboys envisioned him to be then it means that kellyn Moore's success. And I do have a sense of optimism with this pick. It does kind of have you hoping and believing at least that the Cowboys are going to find that guy that we've seen other NFL teams use that James white sort of player, and it's a really really big name to compare Tony Pollard to. But we've said many people have said, it would be so awesome. The Cowboys head that guy. Just like we've said, it would be so awesome. They had a dominant defensive tackle. I mean, they finally went and did that interest in hill. So I do like that they're willing to roll the dice there. Obviously the college traded back not once but twice out of the Tony Pollard pick, and then they had two picks in the fifth round the Jackson brothers. The Jackson too is what I have nicknamed the fifth round for the Cowboys. Michael Jackson, obviously corner out of Miami. I mean, you get Christmas shards. Is to work with this will be fascinating to watch. Honestly, just inactive. It'll be a great sort of sample if you will uncontaminated sample. This is the first guy I mean, obviously, Chris Rashad joined the coaching staff last year. But this is the first defensive back and the Cowboys did draft a safety. Donovan Wilson around later, but these are the first to then that Chris Rashard really drafted with a bigger influence over the team where his mold the defensive backs that he liked his prototype was more of a focus than it had been certainly in years past and definitely more than last year. So we'll be interesting to see how quickly he can develop them. Chris hall did sound hanging with the boys when he was just asked to pick a pet cat. He did pick Donovan Wilson. And I think the Donovan had a great sophomore year at Texas am and obviously did not have a great senior season. What became his senior season? But I think something I was thinking about Donna Wilson. And I don't mean to gloss over Joe Jackson. But again, this is my Aggie. Donovan wilson. Was thrown out for targeting once, and I believe is headed targeting issue. Some people at that as a negative. Okay. Some people look at that and say, hey, I don't necessarily want that on my football team. But I look at that. And I think you look at that. And I think we say that is Chris Rashard type do Chris Rashard once guys that are getting thrown out for targeting, and I don't mean to say it at Chris Rashard as looking for just jerks or whatever. But Chris Rashard wants a guy who's willing to fight who's willing to get nasty. We've seen him in the pre game huddles. I mean, so we we know that Chris Rashard wants guy who's willing to do some dirty work. And Donovan Wilson seems like that type of guy it's going to be great on special teams. It's going to be great just kind of growing learning as a rookie safety in the NFL. And he's got a good tough number. I mean, you got thirty seven his might be my favorite of the rookie class just because they all got kind of criminals, if I'm being honest to go around back. Joe Jackson, the other Jackson, brother. They're not literally brothers. A lot of people making that mistake since the extracted them. Joe Jackson defensive Annetta Miami has some experience playing against Daniel Jones new giants quarterback. So that is certainly some. That might be valuable one day down the road one hundred years when he li- Manning's filing starting for the Cowboys. Excuse me. Goodness gracious. I pretended incident starting for the giants any more. It's a new new name. We're a little getting the getting the kings here. But I don't know. I mean, Joe Jackson and even Jalen jokes, by the way to defensive ends, both of whom I've said that several times have first and last names that start with the letter j speaking of somebody whose first name is comprised by that letter to fifty percent, I endorse those names just competition. And I think you look at the defensive end group for the Cowboys. I mean now, it's I mean, I don't I'm really hesitant to use this word, but it's kind of stat you've got DeMarcus Lawrence and Robert Quinn who really headlined, the group you have Tyrone Crawford who I know isn't necessarily van he's really kind of you know, defensive tackle to some people. But he does play in point. So I mean, I think you can lump them in the group you've got taco Charlton, obviously, not necessarily people's number one defensive end in their minds. You've got. Dorrance Armstrong, you've got a Kerry Hyder who people kind of forget about now with all that's going on. You've now got Joe Jackson. You've got Jalen jokes. And you may be have Randy, Gregory, if he is reinstated. That's a pretty solid group. It's a pretty solid rotation for Rodman alley including what his got inside. Obviously with Collins and Antoine woods. Don't forget Christian Covington. And now, of course, Tristan hill that is a really really really really solid defensive line. The hot boys at least on paper figured, it'd be just as good in two thousand nine hundred as they were in two thousand eighteen so final pick that we haven't touched on because we did mention the Jalen jokes pick, obviously end organ, Mike, Weber the running back out of state. That's the Ohio State understand, by the way to have get off my lawn moment. I I really can't stand when anybody else does that the thing like you can't say like the Florida Atlantic or you can't even say like the Chicago Bears. The thing belongs to the Ohio State University. So anyway. Please stop doing it. You know? But ultimately, I like the pick. I mean, you know, Mike, Weber, I think has chance to be a more legitimate backup from the way that role is defined to Zeke, then Tony politics. I mean, I think you're looking at a running back room in say running back very loosely Zeke Toni Ballard, Mike Weber engine as all the wall. And look I love dairy strikes, and he's been on this show. But I just I don't know that if you're the Cowboys you're carrying four running backs and fullback because we're going to have to go deep somewhere else. We don't even know it's so early to fifty three man roster projections, but is Rico Gad is going to make this team. Because if he does right there you've got four tight ends. We just mentioned all the defensive lamb, and you're going to have you know, in in contention for roster spots are you going to carry through quarterbacks? Again. I mean, all of a sudden it's going to be shy in a lot of places. And I don't know that Darius Jackson has done enough to make this roster. He's had a really really interesting NFL career. So far he's really fought his way back to get back with the Cowboys. But I don't know. I mean, I don't think the Cowboys have drafted two running backs in this this draft. I think that they were they were they felt the Mike Weber was there in the seventh round. I don't think they would've spent two picks on them to just watch one of them walk away, especially one who kind of knows equal. I know that that's kind of a weird thing to hang your hat on. It's funny. How sort of secondary running back for the Cowboys out of Ohio State? Have these loose ties to the organization, obviously, rod Smith was the brother of Jalen Smith. And now, Mike Weber the former kind of teammate Zeke just interesting interesting kind of common denominator there. But it is what it is overall. The class is really exciting. There's a lot to be excited about I think this is a really really interesting class. I mean again, it was kind of best player available. It is kind of old for the Cowboys to not have drafted a tight end in class that was very deep. But the position they did obviously come away with the safety. Donovan Wilson, certainly not a premier name, but one that could be served. Sibal somewhere down the road. So overall Billy pumped we do have video. 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Slamboree '99

83 Weeks with Eric Bischoff

2:01:01 hr | 1 year ago

Slamboree '99

"Hey, it's Conrad Thompson. And you're listening to eighty three weeks with their shelf. Eric what's going on, man? How are you? Conrad to be really truthful about it. I'm I'm lucky to even be here of warning. This could have been as actually last week could have been very last podcast for eighty three weeks. I almost died this morning. What happened? It was got up early. You know, knowing that we're going to do the show, and and I like to get up super early in the morning, and I like to look at the pay per view. We're going to cover, you know, about an hour two before we do the show because that way it's all fresh in my mind, and I can make some notes stuff. So I got up early now MRs B's down in Florida. She's visiting Garrett and his wife, Mary, Jane. So she's I'm flying solo on I've been home alone. Now for about a week. Tony like it up this morning. Making my coffee prep and getting ready to do my right? My review of this babe. You and my dog Nikki is going back shit. Crazy. I mean, Nazi obviously, see something outside this guy. Her completely fired on normally I wouldn't just let her out because I usually tells me there who knows what kind of critters running around him. You gotta live animals around here for Mussa grizzly bears, and whatever so I look around the property, and I don't see anything set that. Okay. I'm gonna let her out because otherwise she's going to be all just cranked up. All morning long. And she'll drive me nuts while I'm trying to be the podcast with you. So I let her out the door keep in mind. I'm in my pajamas on pajamas, but just a barrel sweatpants and a tank top. Right. I haven't even had my first Cup of coffee yet, it she goes below. And after the back of the house, I run around, and you can't imagine where. Looks like pretty much out in the middle of nowhere. It's very hilly and mountainous and all that I see her acid go down over a hill. And she's blazed. She's she must be doing sixty miles our so he's clearly after so. Really vocal about it. Now, I'm certain Google concern shows usually act that way, she's Jason deer antelope things got she just does that perform, but she's like really going after whatever it was. So here's where it is. Silly. I go sprinting across the back forty now. My back forty is that something you want to go sprint across deep ravines ditches steep hills, and all I can some I'm out there. Sprinting now chasing my dog. Because I can't I just can't imagine we a dog. I love my dog to death. I'm not going to just let it run off. Hope she comes back. So I see your s in Grover this ridge. The God, I gotta go catcher. So now, I'm sprinting, and I'm about quarter mile third of a mile into this sprint across cross country terrain, and I'm starting to blow up like really blow up. I mean, I never thought I was in shape, but I didn't realize how bad of shape. So I'm really gasoline. Hard known. I I look up and here's my dog. I see my dog and she's chasing a fricking mountain lion. All a mountain lion. Now, I'm thinking, what am I gonna do if I catch? She's mount Wyatt. I didn't bring a gun. Thank god. I didn't predict a good chance. I will fall on maybe blowing a light off or worse. But I'm breathing so hard, I can hardly focus my eyes. I was actually losing my vision. And I thought my God, I'm gonna have a heart attack out here. There's the headlines Bischoff you're sixty four years old guys of a heart attack chasing his dog that was chasing a mountain lion. And the worst part is where I was a my brother, and these ravines nobody would have found me. It would have somebody would've said wait a minute where all those bolsters doing circling over that. That ravine. That's crazy and maybe somebody of week or two from now come looking for me. But I'm literally Susser going through my head. And then she disappears her an amount are gone now. I can't see a mouth all of my sex. I think okay. I gotta get back to the house jumping my truck. And you know, go all the way around and to describe. But I thought I'd take a different angle. But I have to get back to my truck to do it all the way back to house another quarter of a mile time. I get home. I really did. I thought I was going to just cue over. And just as. Coming up close enough to the house. I can see my deck and like it just make it to the deck. Just got to make it to the Dak, and I might survive. This. My dog comes around house tongue hanging out tail wagging. Hey, this is fun. This again. It took me forty five minutes before I could sit still enough because three them so heavy and acting gag in my enlight headed governed Conrad caused me to do this podcast. I'm gonna have to offer now because I don't know if I'm gonna be ready. But fortunately. What should we hear? I'm healthy. I am going to the javelin this after enough of this nonsense. But yeah, that's how my morning MorningStar Kwame. Glad you're still with us. And I'm glad that we get to cover slam Bary nineteen ninety nine. But before we do we should circle back to last week. It was the feedback. They got from last week's episode. A lot of good feedback. You know, the people has been really positive lately. I don't know if it's because you know, he the chemistry between eight I has evolved. I think that's part of it. I think. On my end. I think I approach to these things quite differently, and I analyze them a little bit differently than perhaps I did when we first started. But it just seems to didn't get as much feedback as we got on the North Korea episode, obviously, but the the feedback I am getting is positive about you. Yep. Good feedback. I think everybody loves the nineteen ninety seven. And now, unfortunately, we have to take a turn for the worse slam Bary nineteen ninety nine we'd just past the twenty year anniversary for this show went down may nine that the TWA dome in Saint Louis, Missouri at this point in the Monday night wars, the ratings have turned. And now the WWF is in the driver seat and the day after this pay-per-view nitro is even preempted and raw does its biggest rating in history. Assume that the Nitra show was preempted for basketball when when nitro comes back on the air on may seventeenth. They lose the night to raw raw does a six point four nitro. Just does a three point eight now three point eight would be a huge number today for all. But you guys were probably fairly disappointed heading into this with the WFAN control in Meave talked about this for the duration of eighty three weeks. Now ninety nine is not a fun time in air Bischoff. Life fair to say. It's an understatement. You know, going back and looking at this this view, you know, it brings back a lot of memories. Because as I've said a million times, I don't live in the past. I don't think about the past either. You know, the great stuff or the horrible stop. I just I just don't do it. My wife is conditioned me. Well, is taught me well, but what you know. I can't help it. When I go back, and I see in particular, this pay per view, just brakes back such such a rush of of memories. Good and bad in this case. And you know, the bad, unfortunately, outweigh the good. But the overall, you know, from from high altitude perspective thirty three thousand feet looking down. This was probably if not the worst time in my professional up. Now, it was it was indeed by this point in may of ninety nineteen ninety nine it was the worst point in my professional life. I was miserable. It's it's apparent when you watch this show that the best days of WWE or behind and it's weird because a happened conic fast. You know, we we've talked about the finger polka dune that happened in January this year, and here we are just a handful of months later in early may. And it feels like now the momentum has has surely shifted those still a lot of optimism and hope coming out of the finger, polka doom, and we've talked about the fact that some people point to that show the finger polka doom and say that was the beginning of the end. But you can definitely see the business is in decline here for WCW bus berry ninety nine is that fair to say. Sure. I mean, it's obvious and in I'm anxious to talk about you know, some of not all of it. Some of the reasons why that is and going back in watching a show this morning is pay per view. It it became glaringly apparent you know, to me where we're WCW was. And why we were in a part of the wrist now all of the reason, but a good portion of the reason that we were in the position where in and we'll we'll talk about it as we go through the show. But yeah, it was it was a horrible time for WCW in a hit hit. It all started about a year earlier, you know, it to the viewer. I understand, you know, why people will look at oh, you know, the book doom is what caused it all in. I mean, I understand why they think that white because they don't have all of the information in easy to make those assumptions based on the only thing that you see or the only thing that you know about but the real. The real pressure in in my opinion. And I think in the opinion of perhaps guy Evans and people who really did the research and thoroughly understand or is understand as much as anybody can what was going on in internal broadcasting at the time timewarner allow a lot of what we're seeing on. This paper view was the result of decisions decisions and choices that were made a year or so cases, eighteen months earlier. But here on this paper view, it becomes very evident to me. Because again, I'm going back. I'm seeing it for the first time in twenty years. And especially when you you we cover pay per view like we did last week sprints stamping ninety seven or was somber ninety seven at Nannu festival tonight nine in the differences of glaring. But in a lot of different ways. Yeah. The having to put on a brave face way killer would report Bischoff in a speech to front office workers a few weeks. Back reportedly predicted that nitro would jump to a seven point O rating when they upgraded the set of nitro and change the format. Instead there was no jump in the writing it was actually the same as the week before. And thrashed by raw again, we're gonna take a break from you Meltzer bashing and we're gonna do la- weight Keller bashing this week. This has been written about you a lot that you really felt like what was hurting the writings is that it was the same old look, and maybe nicer needed a fresh coat of paint. And there is some wisdom to that. I think you know, there's a reason that television sets and late night shows and football pregame shows, etc. Etc. Sort of refresh the look, but did you really believe the rumor and innuendo reported that, hey, this is going to cause us the double our ratings. I think you know, me well enough in although you didn't know me back then. I don't believe I ever said that and I'm not gonna call wait a liar because way way to look I've had my my rounds with Wade. But Wade typically didn't just make stuff up nor did he often, although he did from time to time because I think he was trying to be competitive, you know, with with Meltzer did do a lot of speculation that was clogged as fact or reporting rumors from unnamed sources as fact, so I did I have in the past called him out. But for the most part Wade was coder is straight easy could given the business. He was in that being said never in my career. Did I ever believe that a set or lighting or any any production value? You wanna name is going to single handedly? You know, change the fortunes of television property. I mean, it's just that. If I said it I didn't believe it. I was trying to motivate the people around me, please don't think I said, it it just makes no sense. You know, and you do have to have a great, look, you you, especially when people are comparing you to W W F at that time because the WWF WWE has always since as far back as I can remember than the gold standard when it comes to production value. So obviously people are going to compare you consciously or subconsciously some people even know why they liked the look and feel of one property over another. But there's no way in the world changing set is gonna w audience people dump term tune into any television show for the production values. They tune in for the storylines for the characters for the action for the ability. To kind of forget everything else that's going on in their lives and kinda get sucked into the drama of the two or three hours or watching. But that had the set is like it's like you saying. I'm gonna choose this restaurant over that one because the garnish onto plate is better over there is this. I don't think I said it I'm not gonna call way to liar is possible in the state of mind delays. I was in. I might have been fighting, you know, a speculate here because I don't remember ever saying it, but if I did. I might have been putting pressure on Turner Broadcasting or trying to rally the troops. Dial put pressure on her to get some of my budget back because they had gutted our budget in in preparation for the AOL Time Warner merger trying to reach that magical eighteen or twenty percent EBA. They had slashed a budget that had been approved twelve months earlier in this case, probably six months or eight months there. Right. So there were there was a lot going on. But you know, just to answer the question. I I don't think I said it it if if somebody wants to step up and say they heard me say than I'll acquiesce in. You know, eat it. But I don't think I did. Well, the ratings is definitely the talk of the business today, and it was back then, and it makes sense that you would try to have a speech addressing the ratings because on our go home episode of nitro was we built to this pay-per-view nitro does three point one and rawal does a six point four. And in fact, the seventh quarter hour of the show Rawle had more than three times the audience that nitro show had robbed in a seven point three quarter hour nitro did a two point four. So the Todd has turned here and white killer. Also had a theory given to him by some of the boys one of the reasons wrestlers, Phil Nitra suffering is due to mid card talent, working extended hash show tours up to twenty nine out of thirty days every other week nitro winds up being the final day of those tours the wrestlers are either rushing through their matches or so weary. Beaten up from the road. They feel like they're nitro matches are suffering, and it's gotten so bad that most wrestlers leave immediately after their matches and producers of the show have a hard time finding talent to fill the backstage blasts segments two things I'm gonna address there. I tell everybody the concept behind backstage blast. And explain what it is to some of our listeners who may not know. I don't remember. What is it? You guys did a deal on direct TV where you can pay a little bit extra. And when nicer went to commercial, you could flip over to this channel on direct TV, and they will give you lots of backstage segments. Yeah. This is a that was probably Mike Weber say, Mike, Mike, probably talk to that much more than I could. I wasn't really involved in it clearly, but yeah, you just described it. It is what it was. But that would have been like Weber possibly Sharon Seville working together on that. Let's talk about the theory that Nitra of being at the end of the tour actually hurts the performance, and I do want to mention that. They're still doing that today. So if you work on the smackdown house shows, you're going to go do a smackdown house show on Saturday. Then you're gonna do one on Sunday then you'll do one on Monday. And then you'll do smackdown on Tuesday. And then you get home. If you're on raw, you're gonna work a house show on Friday, another on Saturday another on Sunday, then you're going to do Roth. And then you're going to go home, unless you know, since they've decided that the brand split really doesn't fucking matter. Even though we make a big deal out of it every year, then you're just gonna work both shows. And then you go home chat me up here. Have you heard this theory that hey, we should start the tour with the show's on Nacho, and I guess by there. Recollection. They would work how shows during the week and then take the weekend off. I mean that wouldn't have worked right? No. There's there's truth to that. Reporting on ways side, here's any get. I'm gonna I'm gonna be trying to be judicious in how often I refer back to the AL Time Warner merger re-budgeting after budgets been approved. But it's hard to not talk about those things because it had such a dramatic impact on so many different levels one of the things in it was a it was a combination of things first of all there was thunder. We've touched on some previous shows, but when Ted Turner mandated thunder, he he left it up to everybody else that come up come up with a way to pay for it. It was a very expensive show to produce. It was a live show was on the road. We had to bring in more talent elephants. We've talked about before. And typically she s would pay for that show. Right. The the network that was carrying it would would offset the production. I at least the expensive it it not that they would pay a license fee with a margin built in. So there was profit building for, but the idea should have been that TBS who is going to be getting the show and presumably the advertising that went along with it should have stepped up to offset the cost of production. So it didn't come out of WCW's budget. That's not what happened because in the middle of the AL Time-Warner rebudgeting. And again, I'm gonna say this people are sick of probably hearing it, but every INA wasn't just WCW that was affected by this. Every every division of Turner Broadcasting was affected by this strategy to try to increase the valuation of Turner Broadcasting at the time of. Closing the Birger because the more the more valuation that Turner could show. Across different divisions. You know, the people that were operating those divisions with me and WCW or Brad Siegel TNT or whoever in Harvey Schiller and Turner's force. Everybody was in line to make a massive amount of money on their stock options because the stock options became vested meeting. They matured at the time of of the merger typically when you get stock options they vest over a long period of time their incentive to keep top executives to stick around for ten or fifteen or twenty years to build up their retirement package. But in the case of merger will company takes over another company, though, stock options typically vest the day off and everybody knew that. So everybody was jockeying money around within the company, and I'm not going to suggest. I'm not suggesting that any of this was illegal or unethical at the time. It was. Is considered a generally accepted accounting principle in it was legal. But it was highly suspect because there were losses being shifted from one division to another division or profits. At people would you know intimate would come, you know, Ness quarter that they figured out a way to account for the previous quarter all of these machinations with regard to finance were going on because everybody was incentivized to do it. And in WCW's case again now, we're we went from being the, you know, red-headed stepchild. No disrespect to read heads out there. Please don't somebody tweets. But we went from being the red headed stepchild to all of a sudden, we're the we're the golden child of Turner Broadcasting Ted Turner's calling me every Tuesday afternoon at four thirty to congratulate me, right everything we touch is working in an people are actually proud of WCW. Now, we're back to being the red headed stepchildren get and we're attorneys at art go produce thunder Bill. Burt says Eric I'm not paying for it. It's not coming out of my budget. You figure it out. But how did I figure it out? We've we tried to increase our revenues in order to offset the expense that we were forced to eat Ted wanted it. Nobody else wanted to pay for it. I had no choice, but to do it we had to pay for. So what did we do? You know, we we couldn't we couldn't increase any more pay per views in. I couldn't add. Other month to the calendar year when we're going to do to paper views on one month at didn't make sense to me at the time. We were having a difficult difficult time, delivering decent pay per views. You know once a month? The only thing we could do is increase. How ships to increase revenue to help offset the cost of thunder? And that's. He is that's where the truth in in ways reporting came in. We didn't want to do that. I didn't wanna do that. A lot of our top guys had limits in their contracts that kept them out of, you know, the kind of scheduled, unfortunately, some other guys had in those people that didn't have limits in agreements or have much more dates they owed us in there. They worked at guts out. Now, I think how does that affect the end product. How does it affect what we see nitro or what we saw on paper view? I think the grind and obviously affects the talent. And so often especially in WCW gave we've touched on this before. He. Finishes the way matches were laid out were sub par for the level of competition. We were trying to achieve very very subpar. I might add WCW never had history before I got there while I was there as an announcer while I was there running the company in subsequent to me leaving WCW never ever was known for great finishes, occasionally, there'd be a match or two that would stand out over the course of the year. But I think if you look at, you know, some of the reporting from who's ever dirt sheet you wanted to believe in you know, I think the one consistent saying in. I would agree with it is our finishes sucked. Especially now as I go back, and I look at it. Because again, I look at these things so much differently now than I did when I was doing them or probably even ten years ago. I just look at it differently now and. One of the things that happen along to the talent just being physically beep because of that schedule that Wade referred to in you asked me about the agents were also on receiving end of that. And I think people were just mentally and physically shot in. We didn't have a deep bet, you know, we didn't have a deep bench. Anyway, when it came to agents and people that had great experience or even decent experience a leg up finishes. So oftentimes, it was the talent themselves that were doing it. And. It shows it shows on this view will I'm not going to beat it to death. But I'm going to point it out. You know, you look at this particular paper of their ten matches on this Baker view, eight of them had run ins and kinda cluster. Fuck finishes that made absolutely no sense and actually took away from the match with one exception. There's only one exception. I saw in in in this paper view where the finish in the match were really really exceptional. The rest of were just basically recycled ship that we'd probably seem fifty times in the weeks leading up to this. So many attempts to finish his almost the same for one mass to another little variation here or there. But that that's the kind of thing that happens when a you don't have the bench strength in in the logistical support that you need it happens when people just get burnt out because you're over working in in your Butin, not abusing them intentionally. The end result is the same. They're being abused. And it is Riley gas creatively is gli in emotionally. 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But instead by Tom Warner higher ups apparently concerned with the ESPN piece. Most wrestlers are viewing the tests as formality and insiders are saying the tests or done by management as a public relations ploy, others fear. It is a leverage tactic used by WCW as a way to hold the test over the heads of wrestlers who may be causing problems or maybe thinking about living the company, and then this felt that only under those circumstances with the tests ever come back to haunt wrestlers involved. Similar to the way the WWF pulled out a test on Scott hall before he jumped WCW or totally Blanchard prior to his leaving the company in hopes of returning WCW. So lots of people are being critical about the decision to reinstate drug testing. To me. I mean, this is a little bit of sour grapes about don't do drugs, and you will fail the test. Well, let's let's break that good reporting down just a little bit in clarify few things. And this is all anybody that really wanted to do the research NB accurate about the reporting would have been able to figure this out. Pretty clearly en- should have been able to actually Eric Bischoff never once ever once initiated a drug test because that effort reported directly to legal because it was an intensely legal situation. Meaning that if someone failed that drug tests it automatically triggered. Clauses in the agreement. So for two reasons number one, I didn't administer the drug testing program. Because as I said just now that that effort reported directly to legal and legal did not report to me legal reported to Turner Broadcasting legal not to Eric Bishop even though we were in the same office. It was dotted line relationship. Not a direct report relationship need to make that really clear, and that's the way it was from day one. A when I was president of the company. I don't know what it was like prior to that only a wasn't walled in it. But when I was president. That's how it worked now Harvey Schiller who's ahead of Turner's orbs. Hired. And I don't remember his name, but the individual that Harvey Schiller hired to administer our drug tests was previously the head of drug testing for the US Olympic Committee. So it wasn't like we're working with some, you know, gas station doctor who saw patients in the back of a van and administered drug tests. You know that everybody knew were incomplete or joke Harvey Schiller because of his position Turner's force number one because he was a Colonel in the air force. He was a military guy. He was a straight down the middle type of person. He didn't get creative as an executive. He hired a guy that he thought was the best in the world who was available to administer WCW's drug tests, and he and Diana Myers, Android. Nick Lambros would have been the ones to decide when in wear in who. Who not air Bishop, and that was the way was from day one. So Wade's reporting which would indicate or lead readers to believe that I had to dis- the discretion or the responsibility to trigger a drug test is just flat out wrong and went should have known better. That's number one number two your point of well, really doing this because we want, you know, the hang hang this drug tests over like, you know, the macula soared, and we need to pull it out and cut their heads off with for PR reasons or get keep people from jumping or make him nervous, whatever this is so much nonsense. It really isn't. If you think about it. You know is the legal division of Turner Broadcasting going to engage in that kind of now, that's unthreshed paranoia. Is it not? I mean, wrestling breeds paranoia. And this has got to be amongst the boys their paranoia, here's why they're doing. They're doing too. Tuck. I mean, that's of course, that's it. Of course. It's but in here's here's where I get animated. And I'm gonna try this time because I knew this. I knew this is gonna be a tough show for me because you know, there's a lot of things to a report on in. It's all negative. It's a it'd be hearing Dave's named a lot. I'm grateful that I'm hearing a different name for change offer. Thank you. Thank you. But what frustrated me much much more so than but even now, I still get irritated. Is that paranoia in that kind of, you know, the boys the wrestlers who are, you know, in that state of mind, you know, then talk to the web Keller's day meltzer's of the world, whoever they talk to 'em outlets Reding reported as fact and that does have did have. And I think still doesn't some cases have a really adverse impact on the business. You know, when people say, oh, you know, I really respect the business. I'm reporting on it because I respected and I wanted to be better bullshit half the stuff that is being reported, directly or indirectly has an adverse impact on the business. Because not only do wrestling fans in. It's a small percentage, we all know that we all know. I don't know what the percentage is. We've always I've always assumed. That maybe ten percent of the wrestling. Ewing audience is aware of kind of the peripheral reporting were writing not reporting. It's writing for the most part that goes on in the wrestling jersey world now, it's the online lobby soon social media. Maybe maybe it's more now because his social media. So you never really believed that the audience. Was it the general audience was impacted dramatically by here's some was impacted executives that end up reading these traits because they don't really have any first-hand knowledge. You don't really want any analogy don't really want to spend the time to really understand the business. So they rely on things like dirt sheets to give them a sense of what's going on within this world. They really know nothing about. So when you start polluting the minds of executives who either directly or indirectly have a pretty significant influence on your business. It tends to get you hot. At least it did me in that only you have executives that could have influence over how your businesses run as we certainly were experiencing at this point in time. I had executives I didn't even know of that we're having tremendous amount of influence over my business, and they were being affected by what they read in the dirt sheets. Advertisers would often find these jerk sheets. I can't tell you. How many times I've gone into meetings with network executives outside of Turner Broadcasting and have the subject of something that was reported in their cheek come up in conversation. So all even though the a of name names, I'm gonna try not the name name. So if you don't bring them up, I won't either. But these people who profess to have such respect for the business in so much knowledge about the business. Have no idea how much damage they're capable of doing to the business professed they love in a never cease to amaze me. And again when I was in a second. But not so I don't think about it any more or less. You asked me about it or we're talking about during a live show, and we do that for fun and entertainment as much as anything else. It is for me. Now, I I look at it that way but back then it was my livelihood. It was life or death. It was we were fighting for our lives literally the life of WCW at this time. And that kind of reporting had just, you know, I just want how going up on the engineer because I want people understand why I get so agitated even now twenty seven years later because it really was a challenge that that had a big impact. And I I find it ironic that people claim to have such love and respect for the business were the ones who just you know, to fill up ten thousand words in your dirt sheet. You know reported crap is fact. I I feel like we should at least mention, but one of the suggestions was that the announcing and structure of the show needed to be overhauled. There are a few different versions of announcing that we got in WCW, but one of the constants he wasn't there at the very beginning. But one of the constants was Tony shivani. How did did you ever consider replacing Tony? No, no, Tony Lou. When when I'm which worked w nineteen ninety two I think it was ninety one or ninety two I reported to Tony Tony was my direct report in Tony reported to Jim Ross. I always respected. Tony's work ethic. Number one. He works like a dog in he never sold it. Meaning he never complained. He never told me never political. He stayed out of the political fray as best good may report to Jim Rawson. I know we're all friends. Now, we all back things differently now than we felt about them at the time. But there was a politics going on June was right there in the middle of it, all and it made it hard on Tony, Johnny. Oftentimes got stuck between Jim in dusty Rhodes who did not get along. By the way, you know. I'm sure they did at some point. They probably didn't for awhile. Maybe they did again later on. But when I was there, especially when I got there, you could cut the tension with a chainsaw between dusty Rhodes, and Jim Ross, and like I said, I was I was backup to backup to a backup announcer so easy for me to stay out of the fray to keep my head down and not get hit with any of this ship. That was hitting the fan on a regular basis. Politically. But it was obvious to me when I first got there. How thick the political tension was, but Tony never got involved in it, and I respected Tony because of that. So between his work ethic in the way, he handled himself inside of the office in his in his job in his responsibilities. And the fact that he was just a damn good play by play. You know, I don't know how anybody could have been better than Tony given you can only be as good as the product you're calling if the product you. Call health was baseball football. I watch. Shit MLS soccer yesterday, Los Angeles versus New York, and I was really trying to get into the game. And he you see these players have been corrected or not called flops. But they're called dives in soccer. And it just made a game. Just totally took me out of it. And if you're calling that if you're a play by play guy or input by playing color team calling that will I'm gonna reference it is action. But bad acting would be better. You can only be as good as the product. You're calling if Tony right now. I know he does a lot of baseball e you can he can only be as good as as the product. He's calling and that was the case then so no Tony was never on my list. Now, we know there was a timer to suggest that he drop a few pounds because I wouldn't things got tense for him at allowed us. You know, Tony kind of blew up a little bit in it. Look, it's it's called television. You know, the vision is kind of a big part of that and appearance is we're gonna talk about that not Tony. But we're gonna talk about, you know, some of that here later on this episode in particular, but you know, you gotta have a look you've just gotta look professional. You know? I'm actually thought about this morning. Gotcha. Actually, coach Jimmy Hart. I don't think I've ever quoted Jimmy Hart entire life nothing against Jimmy. I love Jimmy and some fun hanging out with them in Liverpool a couple of weeks ago, but Jimmy Hart probably to this day says dick Clark Packwood with Jimmy was with the band called the gentrys, and they had their they had a big hit called keep on dancing back in the sixties. I think evidently Clark came up to Jimmy Hart and said, you know, if you're going to dress like the audience, that's where you're gonna end up. Meaning if you wanna be a star dress like a star if you wanna dress like the audience pays twenty bucks to come in west show than deaths. We are going to end up. You're going to be on. You're gonna end up in the audience. You'll never be a star in Jimmy me all the time because he always used to complain about ring entire used to drive me nuts because I didn't I had other things I was putting trying to put emphasis on. To Nita scene at the time to be such a small thing that it just wasn't on my list of things that I wanted to improve. It was number twelve or fourteen right? But Jimmy was just like always in my ear about it. And you know, the look in the feel of show is important. Can I might have suggested to drop a couple pounds at one point? I'm sure everybody's made a much bigger deal than it really was. But to answer your questions succinctly, not it's never gonna replace. Tony. Would you replace them with? It was you know, Lee Marshall, you know, had a great voice amazing voice for those people that don't know who Marshall was he since passed away. We Marshall was I think he's still is the voice of Tony the tiger there. Right. That was Lee Marshall. And I think when we hear those commercials today it still Marsha Molly Pesce way about five or six years ago. But his voice lives on Tony the tiger. And I worked with we Marshall any Awa quite a bit. As play by play color. It was great. But he didn't know the products as well. He, you know, he would he would eat into live in in Atlanta. So we couldn't be there fulltime was gonna move them to Atlanta. So, you know, leave did a lot of backstage stuff. So other than me Marshall. There was nobody else to replacing you can't put an ad in the paper or anywhere else in find somebody with you know, ten or fifteen years wrestling play by play experience. Let's talk about another criticism that you rode the top stars too long and use them to get great Bahrain's. But didn't know win to start building up the middle card and instead just use the top guard just decimate the middle of the card. So when it was time for this new crop of stars. We weren't really ready. They have been buried for so long that now the the audience getting perceive them as top guys. And this is a criticism that we would hear a lot in the newsletters for guys like, Chris, Jericho or Guerrero, Crispin maw. There are going to go onto the main inventor's world champions. But instead, maybe we're hanging onto Gosling, HOGAN and savage well past their expiration date, obviously after McMahon had given up on them. You saw you thought they had life. You were right. And they did huge numbers. And even you off Roddy piper and got some hot Bahrain's. But now in ninety nine you're extending contr. Contract. And I think most people would say, well, maybe it would have been Tom to let that one slide last push them underneath talent. What do you make that criticism? It's valid. I mean, there's there's there's no dancing around it. I can try to explain it. I don't wanna sound like justifying it. All I can do is from the position I'm in. Now. Again, the way I look back in analyzed these things, you know, the Hogan's the is the pipers the flares in people who were at the top state at the top. Ninety six ninety seven ninety eight. We're driving massive numbers. Turn we've every week. You know, when we open up a show we talk about revenue year today. Year-over-year quarter recorder things like that. So we hit a brick wall. It wasn't. This wasn't a gradual. You know, kinda slide if you will in into the abyss, ratings wise or Bayreuth wise. This was this flip. From television point of view almost overnight wasn't overnight. It was over period of about six or eight months really is when things started really falling apart, but that was due to a couple of different things. Keep in mind over in the WWF, they were turning up the gas on the attitude era. Let's talk about some of the things that were going on over there like may young giving birth to a hand sable running around with her tits hanging out, and you know. I mean, it was we all know, I'm not gonna sit her beat it all up, we all know. And what that really was was an attempt at a very very successful one at taking the eighteen to thirty four year old or eighteen to forty nine really demo that that allow WCW to dominate the WWF from really ninety to ninety five ninety six seven ninety eight. The reason we did is because we created a new audience that had been under served by the WWF, and w w had never really found a way to tap into. We've found that audience. We tapped into the eighteen to forty nine year old demo that may be had used to watch wrestling, but quit watching it because it was just to kiddie to childish over the WWF in. It was just too much. Same old same old WCW Sunday just faded away while when lateral came along in head to head competition came along on all the buzz that came with that in the end wwl came along the buzz that came along with that all of a sudden that eighteen to forty nine year. Mel demo, you know, came back to us or discover us in some cases, or what was over in WWF left WWF and came to them you see w because of what we were doing that gave us at three or four years three years, whatever it was three years of ability to compete as well as we did. Now. Now here we are in may of nineteen ninety nine and. You know, things got a little risque on this paper because Turner Broadcasting didn't have much to say about that, really. But nitro we're now being forced we choose it. We were being forced thanks to governing Steve higher to fire until Yuba to change our direction and try to appeal to a kids audience. So that eighteen to forty nine year old demo that we had cultivated over the course of three years that led to his being is successful as we were. We went out boring them while the WWF at the time was gassing up the attitude here they had completely abandoned their previous model of targeting kids in teens and preteens because that's what their licensing and merchandising wasn't made all kinds of great sense advertising. They abandoned that because getting her ass kicked in the process looked at what we were doing and said. We can do that. And we can do it bigger and better and they did. So there was a massive seismic audience shift as a result of that combined with a number of other things jemmy sense. Yes. Even answer your question. I'm not even sure what the question was anymore. Thank you. Well, here's my point. I think that sometimes when the guys were doing so well and your pop a number so after I that it almost becomes like a crutch or seatbelt like oh well Hogan's on it, or savage is on it or piper's on. It'll do well. But maybe in Tom you should have known. I maybe we don't need that. But in real life. You do need your seatbelt. No matter what you're telling yourself like I'm not going very far. I'm in a rush or as to comfortable sometimes just forget don't kid yourself. There's no such thing as a good excuse for not buckling up. If you've used any of these excuses. You're putting yourself at risk. Of injury or even death and twenty seventeen more than ten thousand people were unbuckled when they were killed in crashes. That's fifty one percent of people killed in motor vehicle crashes. That were not wearing seatbelts. No matter what kind of drive wearing your seat belt is the best defense in a crash. Even when you sit in the backseat you still need to buckle up. And that goes for when you're riding and taxis or using ridesharing sharing services to cops are on the lookout and even writing tickets. So why take the risk and 2017 long seatbelts. Save nearly fifteen thousand lives. So do the smart thing and buckle up every trip day or night? Click it or ticket. That's an ass was paid for by nitsa. Let's talk about the power plant briefly before we do that h interrupted brother. But I wanna go back because I I don't feel like I answered the question is will as I should have the answer is. Yes, all the things that I just explained. We're happening by point should have been that the situation turnaround rather abruptly as a result of turning around as abruptly as it did. It's obvious that I wasn't planning ahead. I did not think about what are we going to do a year from now two years from now three years from now there wasn't a long term planning on my part creatively. I'm not talking about storylines now, obviously. But I'm talking about, you know, elevating that mid card talent that you refer to the Jericho's in Benoit's and so forth. I didn't do that. And I should have that was my long winded way of trying to accept responsibility. I didn't do it for a couple of reasons. But the bottom line is I didn't do it in those reasons where good reasons, by the way, I should have. I'm not sure it would have made any difference in the end. In fact, I know it went up made any difference in the end. But it was a fact that I relied to to law our sluices, I should say on the reflared. The hulk HOGAN, Randy savage is the Roddy piper's the stings the lex Luger's, and I wasn't planning for the eventual phase out of some of that talent. I wouldn't have you know, when Roddy piper came up writing peppers contract came up as you put it. I would have said, okay rowdy. I think you know, your time's up we're done, but I should have used him more judiciously and used him to help others get over as as opposed to the mistake. I made which was relying on him because it had always worked in the. Past. Starting about the power plant here. You know, obviously WWE these days as inex- tea, and they're trying to develop professional wrestlers from scratch, they're taking athletes from other sports, and and then teaching them the wrestling business, and that was sort of the original idea with power plant where he asked for charging fans for an open tryout, very few would make it. But some who did would go on to become stars. And then he would use this as a way to sorta groom some other people you saw potential in to those being Goldberg and the giant. We know the giant is going to go on to be world champion, and obviously Goldberg's going to go on to be someone who synonymous with the success and height of WCW did win. Did you start to see the power plant differently? I mean where you once high on it, and then sort of got down on it because you felt like you needed a quick fix or would carry me through Eric Bischoff, philosophy and hope and vision for what the power plant was and whether or not. Changed? Well, you know, the power plant wasn't my idea. I didn't start down. I think the not sure when it started really it existed before I got in the management to wonder or another. I think only Anderson was the one that really he even before I think it before it was made executive producer because Beckham before it was made executive producer vice-president only in Iraq should pretty good France. And we didn't hang out after work or anything like that. But we had a really really good working relationship and spoke often about always approach to what we needed to do in in to to grow WCW and things like that. And Ali was primarily fixated on talent. And you know, the problem existed back, then probably still exist to certain degree today. Now WWE still a good job. Let me a dentist. The problem. The promise you can teach somebody all day long in a classroom environment in a gym in a training center. But you can't. Expect them to go from that environment. No matter how sophisticated may be how great that training may be and put them on television in expected to perform to the level you need them to perform because until you understand or get comfortable or learn really how to work in audience in how to react to alive audience. You've only got about a third of the equation. You may have all the technical still in the world. But if you're not used to go out performing in front of a live audience. You're only about a third of the way they're the remaining two thirds is what makes the difference between somebody becoming a legitimate star. Somebody just being a very good technical wrestler and only sell the power plant as way to achieve the first thirty three percent of the equation, meaning give people technical skill. But we often talked about how do you how do you get them out there in front of a live crowd? Whether it's fifty people or two hundred people two thousand people in really take it to the finish line in terms of their. Training in power plant was always attempt to at least have some kind of an animal to give credit to only because I'm pretty sure that's really came from. It was always attempt to do the best. He could you know, getting talent ready for that. Next step now in our case with WCW that next step. We didn't have a next in St. obviously. But you know, it was how shows dark matches on TV that type of thing that was the best that we could do I always like the power plant. I never looked at it as a revenue stream once I became president, the idea of charging people wasn't because we are trying to make money on it. It was to make sure that the people came in to try out were really committed. You know, you give something away for free. It's kind of diminishing your own value at that point. And we would often charge people give him maybe offset some of the cost of it. But not much, you know, sound like we're running, you know, two thousand people a month through the power plant collecting one hundred dollars each from them. So it wasn't. It wasn't gonna pay for himself was never designed to do that. It was designed to make sure that the people that did come through the doors were really. Really committed to do it. Let's talk a little bit about the world. Just everyone's unhappy. And as suggested by a lot of the boys, and then the newsletters that air Bischoff had lost his mind as tides maybe he was burn out. Maybe he needed a break, but he needed to step aside. And obviously you've admitted that you're veering towards burn out was there ever a time when you felt like you needed to take your hands off the wheel and just go to the house for a few months. Well, it was an option, you know, again Guinea, you you would have had to live in that office in live under the environment conditions that we were operating under to really understand it. But it really was it. It was a day to day battle for our lacks. There were people inside a time order that were picking our bones that were pushing us not towards the cliff, but trying to nudge us off of it at at every possible opportunity, not going to keep beating to death. But whether it was budgets, whether it was. Support promotion support. Whether it was interference in in the way that we knew how to operate our business, or at least with respect to television, create decent television. They took every opportunity to keep nudging soft the cliff, and it really was like, you know, wake up every morning have breakfast in show up the office for another streetfight. So just throwing in the towel. So you know, what, you know, pulling Vince Russo in Vince Russo's famous for about every sixty days ninety days he'd feel too much pressure. He'd go help that option didn't exist for me not voluntarily if I would have pulled it once I would've gone home permanently. So now that the idea there was you know, we've talked about a couple of times back in July of ninety eight or ninety eight when it first became obvious to me early so hinted that things were going to rapidly change for me. There was a time when I consider just resigning. Not going home to take a break and recharge my batteries. But I was just going to resign. I talked myself out of it because of my while to Ted Turner and into WCW, I talked myself out of it by this time in may of nineteen ninety nine. I was burnt out. You know, not not on the wrestling side of things I was burnt out on the business side of things. I was burnt out from fighting the daily flights in the daily grind emotionally, tactically strategically and financially the fight that was in with my own company to try to survive. So it was true. You know, those who observed me in observed that I had lost my Midas touch. Yeah. Was true. I was burnt out overall in probably needed the hand over the reins, probably true. I wish there was somebody that could have ended him off to you know, Kevin Nash stepped up creatively to try to help towards the end. But you know, there was nobody nobody internally that I have any confidence in on the business side of things that was capable of doing it. So I. Stuck doing the best? I could do. What about Goldberg let's talk about Goldberg it's written in the newsletters. He's unhappy. He's trying to renegotiate is. I have you. This creative wants more money and allegedly. He even goes on QVC when you guys saw merchandise. They're on TV this a couple of weeks before slam Burri and hosts asked what is doing in the future any says something like, I really don't know because I don't tell me anything. And when the host who clearly a fan says, hey, why didn't ask save you on Monday. And then it was never referred to. Again, he said well things often change from Thursday on day and literally have a plan. Is that make it back to your office? Because it feels like what the fuck you're the top guy opinion boatload of cash, where's this coming from? Bill. It was a very. A very miserable guy in Alabama's cheerful high status because I mean, build our friends worried about saying anything that would offend Bill would probably admit in. He's a different person today than it was back then. But again, keep in mind Bill broke into the business late in life. It about six months where the training in all of a sudden he's he's at the top. And and being put in situations that he was insecure. He was surrounded by a bunch of people that were constantly jacket him around and playing with him in in in stirring him up and firing him up because it was easy to do is a very motion guy wars emotions of sleeve. So it's pretty easy to to mess with him. In a lot of people did any, you know, he didn't have when I said competence Bill had all the confidence in the world himself physically in a room full of guys in I'm at talking about physical confidence. But when it came to what was right in. A wrestling match in the psychology behind, you know, he had different people telling them different things and people that are respected in some of that guidance was self serving. And in some of it was helpful in some of it wasn't in added to that Bill. Didn't have the kind of repertoire in experience will allow him to go out in do a lot of the things that you know, I would have liked to to be able to do it. He would have liked to been able to do. He was somewhat limited in terms of what he was capable of you. We're going to give Bill Goldberger, you know, a thirty minute match with you know, a dozen false finishes number one. It would have made sense for his character. But you know, what I'm saying he didn't have the depth of experience as a result of that relied on a lot of people. Unfortunately, some of those people were pushing him in pulling him interactions that was self serving for them not for Bill. So as a result goes miserable. He was he and he was vocal in. Yeah. We were arguing over money. Some of the worst times in my life where you know, negotiating with Bill Goldberg is we built him up to be this huge star in any turnaround to be, you know, absolutely in a horrible to work with when it came to negotiate. You know, immediately tapped into Hogan's attorney Henry homes, you know, very bloom was in his head which still I'm gonna talk about that anymore. There. There were a whole lot of reasons why you know, that ended up being bad and Bill had no qualms about going out in letting his feelings known publicly. So yeah, I got back to me in and it was very very frustrating. I had to be frustrating dealing with GAAS like who've into Guerrero too. We should mention that he's arrested on Thursday, April twenty ninth in state, college PA, Jerry Flynn as to but we'll start with even tune there's a thunder that evening. So that's the reason they're here in state, college and Hoover juice is going to lead the police on a hospital. Chase after two AM is going to run several stop signs and nor the police sirens. And according to the police even does a hundred eighty degree turn at one point trying to flee the police eventually realizes he's not gonna make it through stops us car and flees on foot they have to eventually chase them gun point and arrest him as blood alcohol level was two point. Oh, which is more than twice the legal limit? And Jerry Flynn is pulled over at two eleven so around the same time, and this is after he left the parking lot and struck a kerb across the street. Normally when you. Talking about Jerry Lynn striking things it's with his hands or feet, but this time it's with his car a fails a field sobriety test. And then later does a blood test the hospital and showed a appoint one non alcohol blood level Hazel east on five thousand dollars bail. And who've he is released on ten thousand dollars bail. When you hear about gossip fleeing from the police getting arrested at gunpoint. Something's amiss. You know, who is am before. I saved him about save my thoughts go out to to be. Unfortunately, Silver King pests away as as people hearing this Saturday, Friday or Saturday here. Remember the day last week in a believe it was in a match over in the UK with two our net just had to be devastating for tune that being said to data history of doing a lot of stupid shit like that in. Yeah. It was just one more thing. You know what? I mean. It is funny. When I 'cause I forgot all about that. So you just read them to me, and it was just it was part of that daily grind when you show up. You know, you eat breakfast. You drive to work you show up to get into a new streetfight at every single day for twelve or fourteen hours each day. And this is just another kick in the side of the head that you didn't see coming that you had to deal with it was. Stupid on their part Jerry's in who's a dangerous clearly in in very frustrating. For us added to a lot of the internal pressures. We're feeling from a well Time Warner just made those people who wanted to unplug WCW because I really didn't want it in the in the new will Time-Warner portfolio and just gave him more munition. It gave them more to work with it. It helped them justify their position. So the I was unfortunate away Rahm. You mentioned. So we might as well talk about it got any Silver King memories. You can share with us. Not really, you know, nothing that stands out. The only thing. I remember in a posted something on Twitter yesterday must happen the night before, but he was always a because I didn't I didn't spend a lot of time with the guys out of Mexico in a lot of them did speak English. And I certainly in the beginning Spanish and the kind of kept to themselves to agree. So I never had a lot of one on one interactions in probably did more with who obviously did with Conan and Ray more. So, but you know, Silver King was one of those guys come in. He would he was quiet. He he he was let when I did see him or did see him interacting with others. He was always very light hearted seemed to be having a great time was happy to be there. Easy to work with never had one incident that I can recall anybody coming up say anything about, you know, Silver King being difficult to work. With were showing up late or not wanting to finish any of the typical kind of things that you would hear backstage. He was just always going to be a very pleasant happy guy who was who was grateful for the opportunity to be where he was. That's my impression of him. When I what I was thinking back about him yesterday. That's that's what I just kept going back to the images. I have of him in my head or always laughing and smiling. And I I wish I had more to to put him over with. It was obviously a great worker in the Rangan as I said at my post, you know, and again cut out, you know, not to get sappy here. But I'm really grateful to you for a lot of reasons, but doing the show over the last twelve months has really given me an opportunity to go back and look at this part of my history and look at it at from a different perspective and not just from the guy that was in the middle of it all, you know, either high five myself or beating myself on beating my head on a curb because things that were going around, but I really. To go back in look at certain things now for completely different point of view. And one of the things I was thinking about yesterday when I was thinking about seventeen and reading some of the things about him was people in oh N, wwl don't feel that. That's what made everything turn around. I chose what made him in general this or they'll Gobert we'll added that everybody's got something that they can point to either good or bad. That was the thing that really made all the difference. And I think oftentimes I forget sometimes until I watch this show like this or until I go back in some stuff. We did a ninety six seven ninety eight the influence that not only Silverton. But so many of the listeners came in for Mexico the cone brought in I think was one of the thing. One of the most important things that we did to help us turn the tide in like, I say million times. It's never just one thing. It's always a combination of things whether it's good or something bad. But I think in the case of. Of the Lucia doors, and and in love guys that we brought in from from new Japan that added such an important element tonight show in differentiated nitro such a significant way that it has to be in my opinion, one of the top three diluted or is not talking about and Silver King as part of that that group that helped WCW really achieved the success identify just wanna make that really clear. Awesome. France, the Silver King family. It's pretty crazy to think that the Scott passed away at fifty one years old, and it also me with his work more than twenty years ago. He's gone far far too young in life. And I mean, there's nothing we can say here other than. How sad the says. Let's switch gears here. There's no easy way to transition. There's a report and this has been talked about for a long time. It's been whispered lots of lots of questions about it on Twitter, but we've never actually dug deep into it. Here's where a happened. It's this era around the time of slammed. Bree ninety nine aren't Anderson has a bit of a scuffle with this. Go inferno in allegedly disco was well liked by most of the locker room. But the rap on him is that while he's constantly trying to make jokes and wisecracks. Sometimes he takes it too far and Wednesday after arriving Tampa, Florida on the W W charter plane more than a dozen wrestlers are on a shuttle taking them to the car rental station and disco is making some comments to Hugh Morris. Just trying to give him a hard time. Or I guess Hugh Morris has family was gonna come watch the matches and disco mid some sort of joke about. Well, your kids like me better. Anyway, I'm even your kids. Now, I'm about a wrestler than new something like that. And Arn who often trades these top jabs with this. Go says, hey, cool it with the family, talk and disco continues. So aren't slaps him across the face, very hard and called it a Rome Georgia ask kicking and everyone is completely shocked and go silent on the bus. And then later disco would tell friends that he thought Arnold was just joking back and had no idea that he was going to go over the edge and invinci- they pass things up, and you know, the good natured relationship continues when you hear about aren't slapping the shit out of disco inferno. Or did you hear about it? And everyone heard about never heard about this is the for some have heard that story. But you know, doesn't surprise me. I mean, it's funny. I ran into our we had a great talk about a month ago. Can remember him? Remember where we were. But. We had an event together somewhere on the east coast. And it was the for Senate Arnott, I really spoken in a long time. But you know, look aren't back in the day during this period of time are are was very traditional kinda guy. Meaning the you could screw around. You could make Joe she could pull ribs you could do certain things, but you don't cross certain lines and family was one of them. He believed that clearly has relieved visits to me. I could see it happening. Knowing our in the way, I did back then and even to this day that was one of those things that aren't in a lot guys are like that. You know, you don't just leave the family out of it. You know, the do do whatever you want to do for a laugh in a rib, and you know, to try to occupy your time when you're on the road, but you know, keep keep family out of it. It's kind of a sacred zone in. So I can see are doing it. But now this is the for semi heard about gets us. A slam. Burri Meltzer would call it a nother Sunday afternoon show at another time changing the world title, the tag titles and the TV title on the same night. Plus having a match for control of the company on pay per view, one make it for one hell of a show, but these days, nobody cares about the titles and the control issue has been turned into a bit of a farce. Let's talk about how hot the tickets are though is a huge crowd here twenty thousand five hundred sixteen fans of TWA dome. And what's odd about that is only thirteen thousand seven hundred eighty nine of them paid. So a ton of paper, but the gates still massive four hundred ninety four thousand seven hundred ninety five dollars and another eighty six thousand dollars in merchandise. So even though there's a lot of paper you hear those numbers anything. Well, then that's pretty good. Let me remind you that they held nitro in this building less than six months prior to this not a pay per view just two regular nitro. They had more than thirty thousand. Paid their thirteen seven paid here. And whether they have afford on a four gate now for a pay per view. They had more than nine hundred thousand for that nitro. So the Todd has turned in a major major way we're gonna talk about the batches, but I do want to talk about the flair piper control of the company thing because you had been involved in that, and we've talked about this briefly all the way back to the finger poke of doom nine at the beginning of the show beginning of the year in January, you have your your duties on television stripped. And now, you know, there's a new president of WCW. And of course, that's RIC flair and he's gonna go to the mental ward. And blah, blah, blah. We'll get into all that another time. But they had you doing various different jobs your show for your bathroom, attendant, whatever. But you're going to reinsert yourself here in the show as like the baby face producer of the show or GM or whatever you wanna call in. While the decision to put yourself back on TV and this time not as he'll but as a baby face here fighting for the good of WCW. Just trying something different. You could only sustain work. You can only sustain the reflectors president arrived piper. As president of the company that storyline doesn't have a lot of likes. It. It was intended to be short run cut a program not a long term year two year three or kind of a program. So. We we all determined. The it had run out of gas in terms of piper or flair being the president of the company it served its purpose. And we were trying something different dead. Go back and look at the rating is where we were in the direction that things have been going in for three four five months by this point. We have the try to something different. Try something different. Obviously had a long history or at the point ahead. A history on television in the met type of role. So we tried to make some sense out of it. Let's get to the show. We're going to start the match with raven Perry Saturn winning a three way match over Ray mystery junior and Billy Kidman as well. As dean Malingco in Chris Benoit who at this point horsemen, so raven Perry Saturn, become your new WCW tag team champions. This is three and a quarter stars. They get a lot of time about seventeen and a half minutes. Canyon is going to interfere. He's gonna come out with a sting mask on. Of course, aren't Anderson is going to interfere in throw a spun BUSTER on Saturn. So there's some interference. There's a lot of hot moves. But it does feel like a scramble because there's not the traditional tag and tag out about halfway through. We just throw the rules out the window, and man, people are just all over the place. It's fun. But a little hard to follow a Tom's. What'd you think? Aided it. You know, the guys worked hard. There's no question about that. But the lack of structure, you know, in in the lack of rules in just the kind of free-for-all, the you said it made it kinda hard to file made no sense at all to me. That's the first thing. That's my second brush. My first impression when I watched it this morning was these guys going back to the Jimmy Hart. You know, if you're going to dress like the audience, you're gonna end up being in the audience, this has look like shit, and I look a get it. You know, this was at a time when we were really, you know, the the hip hop influence was was really kind of dominance in a lot of the things that we did and had been for a while. The tire raven looked like in opposite. Never hip hop. Look. But you know, it was that grunge kind of looked at he'd had for so long. It just looked horrible. You know, it just it didn't feel professional. It didn't look like a character that you could aspire to to be I know people there are some people that like Raymond's character. And I get that. It was a great worker, and it's really smart got in Anson, grit psychology. But in terms of just the overall parents he'd look the put it this way. If I pulled into a jiffy lube, but I had somebody like that, you know, changing my oil. I keep my eye on all the valuables car. It's just look like look like a crack addict to me not suggested he was but he dressed like, well, then you had who become out there with privacy. Always been so colorful in bright as a character. Identifiable full of energy comes out a pair overalls. All roles like, I mean, again, it was a whole, you know, part of the culture at the time. But it just look like shit Kidman. You know, his gimmick. Same thing. What beater pair of jeans boots? I think collectively when he put those guys in the ring. It was such a. Dark unprofessional feeling combined with the fact that there wasn't a structure that allows you to foul the match and engaging motionlessly kinda get sucked into the drama of what was going on. Because it didn't make any sense. It's like going to a movie that had, you know, fifteen different storylines happening in the first act. It's what the hell is this? What am I watching lamb even the air? Go get me some popcorn, you know. I'm out of here, it it is I didn't like in does not reflection on the talent is just reflection on the way that match was booked in a way the guys were dressed that was probably more my fault than but also by let it happen. I want to ask about Perry Saturn though, because I it's written that Perry. Saturn had been hospitalized twice in the or three times in the prior two weeks coming into this show because he's having a really really severe problem with his back. He's even getting fluid injected in his l four desk, and because it's almost completely drying out. What's is causing him extreme pain to the point is his buddies are carrying his bags to the airport, and it's even painful to walk, but he second up and he's resorting to painkillers, but he's power and through and you guys are taking them off the house shows, and he's promising to continue to work the pay per views and nitro 's, but you put the fucking built on like shouldn't be gone the other way with that. Well, we should've. Yeah. Absolutely edchoice. Well, it was a bad choice to count in Stevie right next than August. We should mention before we cover this. I I like both of these guys and realize their cooler than the other side of the pillow. But you wanna talk about two guys not clicking holy shit. This is one of the worst mashes in the history of pay per view. If you're gonna watch one maths this week, I wanna recommend you watch slammed. Berry ninety nine to watch Conan and Stevie Ray, follow each other for six minutes and ten seconds of the paper year review in the newsletter would say at least it was short got a quarter star. And I think that's being very generous. Both of these guys are capable of having good matches. We've seen them. But this is not it is this one of the worst masses ever on WWF, pay per view. Now, the that would have to cover a lot of ground because there's been worse. But I do agree with you in. I. You know, it is funny again, washing this back it brought back a lot of memories. And we'll talk about some of drought this but get a sitting there this morning Cup of coffee. You know, finally after almost killing myself chasing, my dog amount line kinda grateful and still friends with Conan. I just did his podcast last week and CBS I talk on the phone, you know, once every couple of weeks in in stay in touch. So. Really grateful that I'm still friends with these guys book, but this was bad chemistry in just show. You, you know, me you said both of these guys had individually of het great matches. Both of them were great stars in great assets. But just because you have two people who were grit stars great SS doesn't necessarily mean that they're gonna have chemistry and they're going to be the right fit their styles of just not going to work together. And I think this is a classic case exacerbated only by the colossal cluster black at the end with horse. Vincent, Ramos stereo, if you go back and take a comment advice in check into this match. Go to thirty six minutes and fifty three seconds for one of the worst again interference. You hit right on the head first match. What we have interference second match. What do we have not only interference? But the most cluster horrible just disaster. You know, an interference a as part of a massive one can imagine where. Grabs excuse me. Vincent, grabs. A Ray horse goes outside of the ring course goes running Adam to deliver clothesline but raise a little bit out of position. So they do like a redo, of course, a camera stays on catches a whole thing. It's just a boss mess of of finish. But in Ray coming in. You getting Stevie getting on top Stephen of falling backwards. It was just a horrible horrible finish. And again, exacerbated only by the the cluster outside of the ring involving Horace and Vincent, right? Not good backstage. We're going to see DP cut a deal with bam. Bam bigelow. There's no payoff of that later. And then we see Rix Donald do one with buffet Guel. And that actually would happen now. Let's get the Bigalow smash. He's gonna pin. Brian knobs and a false count anywhere hardcore match. I guess this is your standard hardcore match for WCW. They do the brawl for the fake merchandise. Stan where fans can actually get to. And no one is there to buy anything, which never made sense to me. But it gets to stars. There's a couple table spots. You know, I I don't know how much we're going to do with cookie sheets. But that's what WCW used for hardcore match isn't other people did too. But it just seems a little hokey, I guess and. Yeah. There is a spot where here Bigalow is by that merchandise, STAN and he selling knobs is going to go through the curtain where it's blocked off if blocked off the backstage area and knobs is going to do that. Because he wants to get a ladder with a camera gets a clear shot that, hey, we're balking off a lot of seats here. Not the best look for WCW, but I enjoyed hardcore mashes but this is not near the top of my favorites. What did you think it was horrible? And before we actually I don't even want to talk about because match anymore decibel level. It was the the only thing that I will say is at least they worsen colorful. You know, retire Lee everything else up until this point look like, you know, we hired a bunch of wrestlers from a homeless shelter. At least these guys had a colorful gimmick now. Unfortunately, they were both wearing essentially kind of purple. Will Bazeley crazy psychedelic looking shit with flames Imbamaj case. But you put you put these guys together in look like something, you would imagine in your mind, if you've had too many mushrooms, it was just crazy looking, you know, from a ring entire point of view, but the match itself, I hated it. I hated those kinds of matches for a reason this one gave me every reason to believe I was right in going to, you know, the Baxter not the backstage, but the merchandise area of that one of the things I noticed like the meal hit play this morning to review this this is where knowing what I know in looking at things the way, I look at things to me. This is where I think more than any paper view that you and I covered together. So far is where we see the real manifestation of the budget cuts in in the property night. This paper. Purview. Look like shit from a production point of view. And I mean across the boars the pyro looked like it was horrible is this horrible. You'd be better. Not to have any to have that. She shit the stage itself the entrance. It was. It was embarrassed. It's barest in me now to me now to look at it in on its twenty years removed nine a why it was but still my fingerprints are on it. And I have to accept that. But everything about this reeks of budget cuts in this from a production value point of view, everything it was just horrible in the merchandise area. Guys, fighting through the driver encouragement of the bucket is it just made it so obvious that we were still trying to do some of the things that were previously in the past when we had a budget to do him. Well, but this looked just hideous. Let's go to the next match. We've got little Nate. Or Charles Robinson, our former referees. Now the right hand companion for the nature. Boy, RIC flair is taken on Randy savage is valet and I guess real life girlfriend, gorgeous, George, so we've got an and even in the promos building this month. You would challenge flair and he would say about my girl can be your girl, which is kind of funny. I guess and the story here is macho man is going to be reinstated ended up CW if gorgeous George gets the win. So of course, she wins. I know you're gonna have fun bashing this. But I thought this was kind of funny, you know, for what it is. I don't think anybody thought this was going to be a competitive hard hitting Japanese style match. It was all camp and Charles was doing his best. He went to the trouble of even having him. A custom Ray aerob- made says. Little nature boy on the back, and he did his best to do the straw. And did the full tan and had the trunks and boots. And even did the up down upside down turnbuckle spy, which is kind of funny and gorgeous George's his role Todd is role. Todd gets here. I thought this was fun for what it was. But maybe a little long, would you think? She just wouldn't. You think you know, me Conrad? I'm going to surprise you. I thought this match was fucking awesome. I loved it. I loved it. And I loved it because it was an absolute perfect balance entertainment because it was funny as hell, and I cannot I cannot possibly say enough great things about Charles Robinson in the work in the effort in the time in the detail. He put in to pulling this off. I forgot about this. I mean, literally when it came up, I want all my gosh. I forgot all about this morning. When I'm watching on my God. I forgot all about this in even while we were producing it. I didn't appreciate it is much as I should have at the time. It may because there was so much stuff going on all the all those other excuses, but go back and watch please. If you're listening to this, you know, it to yourself if you have the WWE network, get go back and watch this. If you don't have the WWE network, it's worth it to get it just to watch this match 'cause Charles is still out there refereeing in the WWE. But look at the little detail not only did chose Robinson have the strut down in the look if you notice he cut his hair to look exactly like Rick air cut at that time. He got the ten all those. But look at the way taped his fingers up 'cause record had a very distinct way of taping his fingers that nobody else did Charles picked up on that. And taped his fingers up the exact same way. You know, the robe the strength on that is the obviously, right? Did he did he not out of the park, not minimizing them? But they're obvious the less obvious. I think the more difficult things that he did to really capture route Flers character is. Yeah. The way he bumped the upside down flip flop over the top germ, or whatever you call it a corner. He did that great. The Rick flair face flap perfectly. But the matches self was a great match for. I mean, not for what it was. I would say that match made a lot more sense was more interesting to watch from a psychology point of view than the opening match it held that had all that great challenge in it because it was like collagen it there was a beginning in the middle of an end. There was an art to this match in both. He and George gorgeous, George, obviously put a tremendous amount of time with the help of Rick in Randy in pulling this off. I thought the action on the Rin was some of the. The best. Yes, it was towards the campy side because of nature of it. But if you just, you know, pretend you don't know who chose Robinson loves the role any typically added WCW, and you didn't know gorgeous, George, he just watches match. It's probably better than seventy five percent of the matches. You'll see almost anywhere outside. A WWE today is far is a story in technically. They didn't try do things that they weren't capable of doing. You know, they had enough depth to their repertoire in things that they could do that. They they use them to dishes throughout the body of the match didn't overdo anything. But what I loved about. This is typically when people that don't really have any wrestling xperience, try to get in there and have a match whether it celebrities or anybody else is they end up trying to do things that they're not really capable of doing. They don't have competence in themselves doing whatever experienced. These guys are really good at keeping the body of the match within their. Abilities to meet or exceed the audience's expectations. Of course, George did as well. It started out with near changing, you know, arm bars twists and all that in way the way Charles was selling just look at again, look at the little disc is it's a little details. Often make things great. It's not always the big things that are obvious. But if you go back in Washington, I'm gonna go back and watch it again probably this afternoon because I enjoyed it so much, but when when Nate Leitch is selling look into a shaking his head. I mean, he studied Rick flair. He probably knows for clear as well. As Richard in terms of you know, what Rick did in the ring at that point. It was just act up flat out amazing story was great. The psychology was great. It was still entertaining as hell if made me laugh, but I can't say enough good things about it again, not again a little thing. And this is just me. This is my my my way of looking at thanks but go to one hour twenty six minutes. Thirty one seconds. If you have if you're fortunate enough to go back and watch his match watches Medusa comes around the far side of the ring in absolutely blasts, Asia who was out there was little age in and Rick flair. She was the I guess I candy, although she was a piece I don't know how that made any sense. But whatever Asia was out there with RIC flair floor inserted interfering in the match and Medusa comes around the corner of the ring in just nails her with the back leg around kick. And when I say nail, sir it night her being Asia Watch. 'cause you get a perfect shot of it. You know, the cameras absolutely the best possible position on the floor to catch Medusa coming all the way around and in you sere loading up that kick in when she makes contact Asia's head. It's like her head moved about eight inches. I mean, she. Laid that kick in there into the fantastic job. In the reason? I'm so excited about that is because again, it wasn't you know, in the in the body of that match, it was a guest relatively insignificant. But it was so well executed didn't make everything a wound that moment. Look more believable as opposed to what we saw with Horace in right? Excuse me. Horace in enra- in interference outside the ring actually made everything else that had happened. Previous to look even worse in more ridiculous. Whereas this one little spot where Medusa kicks Asian the back of the head outside of the ring because us interfering with so legit. It may never the everything else around it, look even more legit. I give this match, you know, on scale of one to ten for what it was. I'd give it a ten. I'd give it a ten plus everybody worked really hard at. This is everything you look for in a match, you know, it's entertaining. And it just checked all the boxes, and there are three things homeowners want their home to be safer smarter and more fun. And what about told you one link by first alert has you covered. I mate your family's new best friend the one link safe and sound hardwired smart smoke and carbon monoxide alarm with a premium home speaker and it selects enabled. All in one sleep device Milt with first alert safety technology and providing an immersive great sound experience the safe and sound elevates anyhow, but it gets better one lake. 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And that Steiner's comments on air about buff being self obsessed with his grooming habits are quote, unquote, shoot comments and behind the scenes buff is taking credit for Scott getting over and he's even allegedly gone to you to say that he should have a bigger push. Because he's got one of the best three bodies in wrestling. And I can't believe this is true. But way killer row there was even talk of having him replaced. Steve McMichael in the four horsemen. And if you would have put both by on the four horsemen, I would've murdered you so chat me up. These guys, you you you had to wait the line because pack. Arne Andersen may have gotten to me. I. Even during the match in the match recap melted. Right. There was legit. He between Bagwell and Steiner all week. And there were rumors not this would be shoot. But the Bagwell would wind up with some lumps. Scott potato Tim several times during the match and Bagwell showed up with some major league bumps. The next time. You guys got together for a show chat me up here. Tell us about the heat between Scott Steiner and buff Bagwell here slam beret on and but was a little bit like a disco in in some respects. He just he never knew when to shut up or back off. It was just kind of relentless. And I you know, I I don't disagree. With Scott's perspective about him being self obsessed with his grooming app. It's I mean, look, you know, look at when you see him on his show you lead. There's a backstage segment where he shows up. And I mean, it's just it's almost to the point of ridiculous. You know? You know, he I mean, he was you know, metrosexual before anybody knew what that meant it just. Yeah. And he still is by the way, rain into over wrestlemainia weekend at the hotel, and although he looks significantly older. He's still, you know, every air is in place in you know, he's got his neckline trimmed into weird shape. I mean, he's he's just obsessed with it. I guess that was gimmicky believed. It would work form. He did have a great physique. There's no question about that that in and of itself, necessarily, you know, catapulted to the top of the roster. But in his mind it did because he was obsessed with that as well. But I can understand Scott Scott's enter into short views in a low tolerance from nonsense in beg. Well, you know was. Bullshit. Most of the time in didn't know when to stop. The match goes seven minutes and eleven seconds, Scott Steiner pins. Buff Bagwell to retain the US title. What did you think of a match? Scott's gonna get the win with the Steiner recliner. Truth here track. I in in. It's not I just knew what it was going to be not. Just leave it right there. Fast forward. That's enough. All right. I love it. Next up Roddy piper. Ric flair rod is going to get the win by D Hugh Robinson's gonna come out to ref and they fire Johnny Boone. Or something. And so be back background way. Not a great match. Not a terrible match two and a half stars. I guess we should mention that. There's lots of interference here. Asia's interfering aren't Anderson's involved flares going to pull out an object and knock out piper with it. And then you come out mostly to cheers and reverse the decision and then piper. Fires flair. And you guys are hugging. And. I guess piper sort of forgiving you for everything that's happened before. And actually, thanks you. And this finish. Or the whole creative is something that will be written about in the newsletters as being something that flair was not happy about allegedly he'd been I know you're gonna laugh at this promise to pay per view win in exchange for doing television jobs for sting Nash and ADP in succession, and when he didn't get it. He's talking pretty loudly here saying that he'd been double crossed. And he's opened the talking about maybe wanting to go somewhere else and flair was told just before the mats that they wanted to keep him as a heel and in the same role. But those plans were changed and Bischoff wanted to be portrayed again as the man running the company, but this time has baby face with the idea being that flair had won the match making him president for life. Well, that just simply didn't happen now in enough to live by that stipulation anymore. So now bishop's going to run the show before is going to continue to think that he's the president doing the whole. Half nuts. Routine flares. Oh, reportedly not happy with this creative decision. What did you think of the match, and what can you tell us about the rumor and innuendo? My my view of the match watching back is tainted dramatically by how much Misrati piper. And I don't mean a on a personal level. I don't want to suggest that he and I were best friends or anything like that. But I miss. I miss Roddy. In in what he represented in what he brought to the table. It was an era in Rick, obviously, you know, part of say Marin in in, you know, love her to death in we hang out quite a bit together when we're on the road at at the same events and things like that. But Rick is still with us. Thank god. But seeing a Roddy just just reminds me of. Of an era that I miss when when it comes to sports entertainment or professional wrestling because he he like Arne Andersson in again on mention RIC flair, Randy savage. There's just. Discern guys that bring me back, I guess to a time. When maybe it's because the business I related to much differently when I was younger, and it's kind of like when you when you drive down a road, and you hear some that reminds you of high school, you know, or a good time in your life. And it just kind of brings you back to that happy spot. I guess when I when I watch a match like this with Richard ready piper. It brings me back to that. Happy spot in it, probably taints the way I really should be looking at this match. I liked it you notice it again. Jimmy and MRs like, Jimmy Hart theme show. I notice for sing. I see any anything that both witnessing. Thanks. Thank you. Gotta get the if you look at this batch. Not only do their tights. Look like they bought him at the same place at the same time sort of their kneepads. I mean, these guys look it looked like a Bob seek twins up there in terms of rented there, but the match I enjoyed it. You know, whatever criticize me big fella me. I don't really care. I enjoyed it. But again because I harken back to a certain era in terms of the drama backstage. I don't even wanna comment on what Richler said or didn't say he may have been upset about it. It wasn't a standout thing. It wouldn't have made sense. We never bartered. I know what anybody says the calling anybody Aligarh people all remember things differently. You know than the next person. So I'm not gonna comment too much on it. But I can tell you this. I never bartered TB wins in pay per view wins. Just never that never came up hailed the two jobs of TV. If you give me a purview win. I mean, it's kinda asinine to think about things that way it didn't happen. But you know, if someone remembers the differently so be. Maybe I'm wrong. Next up is an interesting match for a couple reasons it's Goldberg and sting, which you would think would be the main event, but it's not going to go to a no contest and eight minutes and seventeen seconds before we talk about the match do wanna talk about something that was written in the torch. Where it said that the way sting was wrapping white tape around his booze, which I always thought it was kind of odd had become a bit of an inside joke in the locker room. Apparently sting was telling people that his boots were old and falling apart. But others believe that there's a Wolfpack symbol on the boots. And he's just trying to cover those up and get a little more mileage out of them. The seem silly. We've got a lot of tweets about it. Do you know staying was wrapping white tape around his boots? Do not have a fucking clue. Now, I'd imagine you would. But I knew if I didn't ask I would've gotten thirty eight tweets why didn't he ask Erica about things tape? So now it is. I don't know being how you know. I'm the ungrateful right because if people weren't passionate about this level of detail in what was going on twenty years ago. Weiss thing was boots with white tape you, and I may not be doing this show. Ryan Clinton is a lot of people that are very passionate about this. And I love each and every one of you for it. Seriously. No kidding. I'm grateful on the other hand. I I just can't imagine that people are interested in that. But they are. So I I wish I had a great answer. I wish I could tell you a really interesting story in something behind the scenes that would shed new light on this moment in time. But I don't have a fucking clue. Well, these guys apparently didn't have a fucking clue what finished they should do because it goes to a no contest with. You can't be thrilled with on pay per view. And the way they get to a no contest is staying hits to stinger splashes. And we goes for third Goldberg power slams. And and it's it's a it's a two hours, seventeen minutes in eight seconds. It was cool shit. And then Bret Hart shows up and knocks out the referee. Mickey j and delivers a bunch of chair shots to Goldberg and after Bret leaves the Steiner's come out, and you know, there's a melee with staying in Goldberg. But I I wanna talk about the Bret Hart decision. Because this is fascinating to me. Brent horn had recently quit on TV. You know, a picks up the Mike and says, I quit. Hey, he's coming back here. And it's written in the newsletter. He was literally called the Friday before the show and had to cancel previous plans to promote his movie at the Toronto film festival. Now, he's going to do this run in and to make sure I guess nobody remembers it the Cording to the newsletters. They had the Steiner brothers follow. And they beat up Goldberg and staying after Brent left, which I don't really understand. But I mean, the reason you don't understand it is it is it doesn't make any goddamn sense. That's why that's why you don't understand it. It's it's nonsense that so just just getting bear. With me. Just a minute. I'm not going to name any names Nutley yelled. I'm gonna try not to swear. But just read that sentence to sell in ask yourself when you're done could that possibly make any sense to anybody even given the dysfunction in the chaos of the existed, admittedly WCW at the top. There's any can anybody convinced themselves without alcohol or other illegal drugs. That someone possibly thought. Okay. We're going to have Bret come in in by the way to our seventeen minutes. Thirty six seconds lays one of the most devastating edged chair shots item ever seen on somebody directly to the top Goldberg said is anybody going to think that by the signer showing up put the boost to sing that somehow? We're gonna forget that none come on. If the point is it does diminish the Bret Hart return, it may diminish the return, that's a separate topic. But to try to pretend by doing that it's gonna make everybody forget that Brett showed up did it. Here's my question. I guess rats moving slowly here, and it's written it's because he just had his groin and abdominal surgery. So he's not going to be able to wrestle again until July. And I guess they're doing this because Goldberg's going to take some time off because he needs surgery, but what happens here is Brett, and this is rare actually injured Goldberg, and they think that he actually broke his ankle. But x-rays later on that evening would reveal there was no break, and he's even willed out on a golf car in front of the boys. And he's actually like he's in a lot of pain and Br is profusely apologizing and he's very upset because he has a great reputation for never hurting anyone. And apparently his his plan is to jab the chair in. Goldberg's leg, but Goldberg is moving lifts is leg. And while. Bree is slamming the chair down and wants hitting him with a lot more force and Goldberg is saying he was the one who moved and it wasn't breads fault. And he's trying to play modern day superhero and got a little too incident too into it. And now he's hurt. But the original plan was for Goldberg to challenge brat on the tonight show on may the twelve and that's when he was supposed to do the grandstand challenge for Steve often for a hundred thousand dollars all this jazz. What are you? Remember about Bret Hart injuring Goldberg in this may lie. You know? I was I wasn't in the ring. But. Going back in looking at it. And listen to two bills, you know, responses soon, it it wasn't Brett's fault. Don't from a technical point of view. And you may have heard me say this on the dark side of wrestling series on on base. I I don't think anybody from a technical perspective will ever surpass Bret Hart in terms of what what he was able to do with how executed in the ring technically is one of the best. Maybe there's ever been he in RIC. Both are are are to those two guys are neck and neck in in that regard, in my opinion. And I'm not a wrestler. So people may disagree with me. But when it comes to Bret Hart, I don't think anybody can ever accuse nobody ever should accused breath of taking liberties or being sloppy or not looking out for his opponent. Because that's just not true. It doesn't mean accidents can't happen. And I think Bill did the right thing by you know, taking responsibility to take to in this dance. You know, you you have to dance together in a few start. If you. A little bit of on a step or get, you know, get off beat or rhythm than accidents do happen. And I think that's what happened here. And I don't think there's anything more to it than that. It's guitar Madam. Brett granted Brenton feel horrible. You really did. And I you know, this is bad situation. Well, if you feel a little better the summer, you need to get rid of the most annoying thing around, and it's not a, you know, a little talk on TV. It's actually flies and other insects invading your home. And who knows where those flaws were last. It can be a flaw that just landed on your hamburger. And where was he before he's going to go from your hamburger to wear, and where was he before he got there could have been another piece of food or well piece something else, so we'd like to thank our sponsors over at Dina, trout Dina trap is the leading manufacturer of outdoor mosquito and insect traps. And now they've come up with a solution for indoor pests the Donna trap fly. 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So they hired Kevin Nash to come beat him here for the w world heavyweight title, sixteen minutes and forty five seconds is working very hard to put on a good match here. Of course, there's going to be some interference. Randy savage is going to interfere for a D, Hugh at thirteen minutes and one second and then Bischoff is going to come out and order savage to leave and then restart the match, and you're saying, I don't care what Ted Turner Harvey Schiller. We're going to do to me or what the rules of the match were the match being restarted and page is going to try to use a chair, but Nash moves and hits the chair with the robes and bounces back into his face. Like Terry Funke's to-do page comes back with a low blow transfer another chair. And he's a a Jack knife to get the win. No, major postmatch celebration. But the crowd goes bananas. Not the best match. I didn't really like the D, Hugh and start and stop. But I get they need to reestablish. She was the baby face leader of the company. But Kevin dash who's the Booker as now the world champion. And of course, that's going to get the internet talking in a big way and probably some corners of the locker room as well. What'd you think of the match? What did you think of the decision for Kevin to title on himself? I think it made sense. I think you know, GDP had had his run it gone. As far as we could probably take it at that point in time. Kevin looked Kevin put himself he'd knowingly put himself in a position where he knew he was going to get a lot of heat because of the internet and dirt cheese, and so forth and some of the boys, but he believed it was the right thing to do. So did I by the way? So hopefully that covers the, you know, the the dirty drama backstage drama as far as the match goes. I I hated the finish. I think we so far every one of these matches has had out side interference or DU. And there there there is probably forget about the finger poke of doom ATM era in Lebanon. If there's if there is one thing. That that helped put us in the position that we were in at this period of time. It was the lack of creativity when it came to making matches interesting specially babe reviews, and when you go to is interference or de cues on every single match on paper view, you know, you're in deep shit, and we were that being said the body of the match not only to db were hard. And he did is he always did improbably still would today given the opportunity but I- Kevin works zaslov. Kevin I thought Kevin love Ghanaian key Kevin was capable of Abington. Great matches. Kevin was also capable of on as a big guy. Who's had a lot of injuries that even at this point. He had had a lot of injury. So you you weren't going to expect Kevin to go out there and have a, you know, dean Malingco at Guerrero stout match. You know, he was a seven foot nearly seven foot tall guy. You know, three hundred some pounds with with knee issues. So he did what he was capable of doing. But I think in this match particular go if you go back and look at it. And I encourage you to do it. I think it's some of Kevin's best work in WCW. Actually as a batch now known as a character in Aleppo, but has a match look at the way he's selling for db throughout the entire match. You just didn't sell once or twice so zaslov to make that match work in did it in a believable way. Sometimes when a guy is biggest cabin or others is biggest Kevin try to sell you know, subconsciously or consciously. You're sitting at home won't happen happen in kind of takes you out of the moment. But he, you know page was big enough compared to to Kevin at the time to as long as Kevin was selling for him. It'd be believable. And I I got sucked into it. You know in terms of the story in the mass because there was none of those weren't does. Mom. Elements within the body of match right had throat the bullshit flag because above look so ridiculous. The selling seem so official poorly timed, whatever. So I I thought the match was pretty great excluding the finish of the Finnish. Suck. It is what it is not the best pay per view loaded card ton of talent. But for whatever reason it does feel like there's some MRs on here. It's just more of the story of WCW in their decline now from you know, the heights of ninety seven even ninety eight ninety nine it's just a steady decline, and and I don't know four or five more months Eric Bischoff as outta here too. And we are going to be out of here for today's episode, but we'll be back next week. And we're doing something totally different. And we're very excited about this. We're going to sit down with the author of the nitro book, Mr Guy Evans, we've been talking about this book for the better part of a year now, and we're going to sit down with him and pick his brain. 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2019/37  Brazilian GP Review

Box of Neutrals

40:44 min | 1 year ago

2019/37 Brazilian GP Review

"This is Fox Tros live on. AMC grandstader Nada Rob. James had paid them again. Lay and with your house house band. Michelle got three and edessa door orchestra reviewing the Brazilian Grand Prix. Had It happened. Why did it happen? I'm not sure even even did happen. And I'm like I'm always by RUB. James Is slipped very well last night And I regret that because when I wake up and I put my phone. Because I don't care about the spoiler results pliny bed on social media Majoli drops. It's a separate medical condition. Listen I I I'm with without space faceless Jerry. Space Nothing Q.. Is locked your. You're quite like the Brazilian girl at how the podium turned out to be as colorful as it was even. If you didn't say the president can you stay on the Party of Ferrari well that went pretty well within two. Hey do men plus he resigned. You probably do that happened exactly six days ago. That is one day after the Plus what's going on with the Hamburg Berg absolutely nothing. That's box of usual. When I was a young Bob? The show Chaumet McGinlay Cheo. He said F one his bullshit because because just go around in circles they don't go anywhere and James aims to wrap up the Brazilian grown pre race. That was very early in the morning. Russ regular time to people in Brazil. Obviously and really I mean considering during we came into this weekend I feel like at least I did dreading the factory go to races. That may nothing. They did robbers. The next one means absolutely nothing less somehow of a missile gap. So I'll have to find motivation from within the next couple but this one very careful because this is the thing about Brazil it has this. We'd CA Volka eighties. Eighty either. Just not worth getting up in ruins your Monday for being robbed over of of Sporting Memory Marie or it is to use the words of Drunk Bogan Friend Bat. Shit crazy it was certainly the Lassa in this instance like I said Obviously everyone knows. I didn't watch the rice because I proudly proclaimed that I was I was staging a protest against waking up that early in the morning being fair and do I regret it partially catch up services for but nonetheless it would've been absolutely louis thrilling to watch it live and it certainly yeah. This is a form of the one nate. This is the kind of thing everyone says. Indika is like twenty Kakaza could win Whatever Saint Petersburg brea whatever wars like? These are the ones that are better for it so it was excellent to say a variety of different colors on the influence which is genuinely impressive. When was the last time you saw orange podium never and technically it was soon after the fact that a lot of the orange was just hives vests raise? Yeah there were there. Were packing down the paddock. But it was good to see Carlos Science sure sure. He was by himself on the party with the photographer head to stage. That's really focusing on one. Second I know prison for the retake of the podium photography you office photo. Sometimes if people available for them they get Photoshop in light up and you can always tell because the yielded shadow cows often. They'll I kind of their own size. Do you think we ought to go back and Photoshop Carlos Sainz into the podium. Not Why not well they say gee Komo commercials inside of tracks I mean James Dean is surely we can say gee I if if I tell you what if in the F. One BLU ray. DVD review later in the year. Yeah crack if Carlos digitally ultimate to just get the Carlos Sainz from the F.. One Twenty nineteen game where they all compete constipated. Put Him on the podium photoshop so it was great to see Kyle McLaren back on the podium where they belong as well show landowners was eventually that he was on there But Not really has great young calls on the podium. Yes especially young. Lando lost PREDISPO-. Jim McLaren was of course very close to our heart in Eh physically. IHEART is very close to park in the literal sense. Twenty fourteen twenty four team Kevin Magnussen. Yeah and then Jenson Button because I think it was some oh Daniel Daniel was it was that year. Wasn't it. It was yes I think it was. Let's say Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah so McLaren's there on the podium Kevin Magnussen engines in button and nothing insane would you. Could you have imagined. Could you have imagined it. Could you imagine Kevin Magnusson. The loss mcclaren. Podium data consuming isn't it. That's extremely to all conceded that that year twenty four. Now I wouldn't have been twenty. Fifteen was when Colossians debuted. I wasn't with MACs with Stanton at Toro. Say Ah Yeah Yeah. We'll just doesn't really matter incredible party. PA It strange. Isn't it because Max had some extra the first avenue such a complete weekend red bull for the first time in maybe since Daniel one in Monaco last that last year remember they had a week and I would just dominant debate position from extra step and someone else remarked on this. How it was surprising that that was maxes? Second official Yes Hope as he should he made a vague paints remarked that he believes in our how we still believes this point. But it's not a life you believe it. That he's mixing ingrown pray Paul. It's yeah it's hard to believe. That was actually. He's he's sick at one so from Saturday through Sunday it was certainly mixer. Mr Stafford and red bull racing's wake dimensionality. Albion was actually a strong performer again. Yes I bought the red bull machine but for for Mexico is back back-off at the season actually quite interesting as to how quick both Red Bulls our yeah. This is sort of typical red balloon. That where they always have a pretty the average first half of the year and then come on very strong towards the end and I promise that that'll be good next year. Then they do exactly the same thing with over the start and they get better could really a-changing twenty twenty because surely everyone's just busy bathing. The budget cap in the most expensive just beyond beyond incomprehension expediencies turns out. It's cheapest to make everything out of gold. Yes twenty twenty research it up to twenty nine same Betas probably shoulder though because this year even this weekend Red Bull Broadway to practice a twenty twenty front wing but then you tend to rise but they're already building of course they are the twenty twenty car so yeah wh- whether this momentum carries on into nick season is anyone's guess I certainly friars on carry the Vincent twitter twitter at least not too much into the breakings before all we do talk about the podium talk about Ferrari briefly because there are so many competing issues to overshadow one another in this race because we seventy regan overshadowed by the podium ghettos perhaps overshadowed by the Ferrari probably could have been sebastian riddle. Charles Leclerc five laps from the antenna in something like that and it completely unnecessary crash. I'm not sure if I was more standard by the fact that they crashed one. The fact that it wasn't a very big crash but had an extremely dreamily catastrophic to the fact that the students found that neither driver was predominantly. At fault. It was I I was stunned as it was like Ed bug in the computer game. How bad the implosion shells cow was? I mean it doesn't even have to do. We'll come off the car. We'll come up with one. 'cause there are like a glance wolves at Monica and still bay together together one pace and yet literally veterans went booth at Shah clue wheels and suspend to the whole thing. Shut itself it was like how is exactly like you're a couple of years ago. Monaco speaking of Jenson Button Pasqua wheel. I'd had the slowest accident in the world. And some of US covert over like ended up. What he's salsa? Yeah it's exactly the same. It was strange to say about it was it was unnecessary. Are the party. Thought that would be the result. That would happen to veterans credit. Yes it was. It was very very silly as Matteo. Benaroya pull it but it was. The reaction from the cow was like home. We'll play staged Avi Shonda Shala didn't even touch you. Just look at you. It was. It was incredible. I I mean it's interesting because it's search on. The one hand seems to divided opinion but on the other hand. I can't actually find that divided opinion. I can't find anyone who doesn't think that if anyone was to blame it was Sebastian vehicle. Because if you look at the replies there and that's always the thing we all students have access to so much more information than we do and it's true but it's pretty clear that he just turns turns left into liquid not a lot not jarringly but he's the car moving left and then they have this contact. That is absolutely devastated. Yes I'm out of the race. We show Ferraris. That really changed. That caused that easily combustible eats like you know I'm I'm GONNA checking our bases and caught fire. Williams must've been racing considering how few show parts seem to have. It was just absolutely ridiculous. The way those fell apart. Go Watch it again. Legally on on the on the one youtube channel and just because I couldn't believe it when that actually happened it had to happen to fry. It was the most Ferrari thing that happened season where they've struggled to find new ice to lose races. These pubs hopes possibly the best and most spectacular would be fascinating place to sitting would be either Ferrari people but that's film so we could save Matab and on I just hi. This is always going to happen. Took to Ram Twenty. That's pretty good. It's like Kramer Human Seinfeld's two knuckleheads have Kramer he But then the other one would be stewards room just to say what genuinely be fascinating to see him. I'd deliberate decision the one I really want to say he's. He's the Komo TV director studio. Because how director just not go full James Brayshaw you know and then sort of wow. That is an exciting crash. Follow that car and then cut to another angle and battles Tyre and suspension just exploding exploding like how cool in that scenario. It's so impressive. I it is frustrating. We don't get to see more of the rice stricter because we only have across to Old Bite Michael Massey previously winding whoever needs just after the safety cosby and deployed with. I know what's happened just very serious. They look very in control like pilots. If they're in control so fun I'd love to say hey reaction to ridiculous exit like that. I think that would also be. He's gotTa be value in throwing a pain swearing talion. Yeah also what I thought was really interesting. Wanted to Sebastian business situation. Is this the first time. He's got an angry in German in the the car was injured when he said what did he say. I'm out crash. Every said and then he said something in German which which sounded quite severe. I guess Jim is kind of a severe language but then it was translated. I translated part of it was just like that was very unnecessary. But he was so angry that he said it in German. Obviously he's mellow tone. You know what if it was dead near Kata Strategy. What he should have said they'd was what he should've would've said Ricarda could easily speak Italian and swear at Italian? Yes now as for the language on your possible. Yeah Sam's slightly those the the Rice Industry Ferrari we should talk about gazillion. Callo signs obviously overshadowed the winner of the rice maximum step and even though any one of them was on the podium Liam to literally overshadow somebody P guys. This was a big race for him because this was the week where it was confirmed. Be Staying at tar also not going back to red bull. We all probably knew that already considering doing that. While the way Alex L. One was performing relative scenes. But this was I mean this was also as much as verstappen had quite a dominant weekend. This was a dominant Marin weekend in midfield sense for Gaza because he qualified at the head of the mid view which is essentially pole position for him held up vision for the whole ride a whole rice and then finish day which ended up being sick and it was essentially a lights to flag victory. Yes now he's a hypothetical scenario toy had read head. Pi Gasoline stayed at red bull. Yes he would have crashed and finished fourteen. What would've yeah? What would have happened? This is like the Black Mira sort of scenario what would happen. Would he have had conditioning crashing again. All what are you on the ground. Pray legitimately because if he did that performance in a Red Bull Honda would have been a very different story Eric and he would win the whole thing. Well if they see. This is the great `Nigma with gasoline because he was so bad for red bull but as soon as he went back to Russel also pretty much. But I think you know but I think I think even soon as he went to Belgium Belgian grown priests. You didn't have a full viet dilution. One just absolutely shut the bed. He did it the other way where he went back to being really good and he's as good if not better probably better. I'm willing to say then. He was this time last year or so of course with more experience appearance under his belt but he just couldn't do it red bull and I do wonder I mean it's black mirror kind of stuff where it's like now that he's going back to Tahrir also and has proved that he can do it again. If you went back to red bull would he be good now with the confidence. Be Back or would you just be back. Is there something about Milton. Keynes doesn't like I don't know it's it's straight. It's really unusual because I'm not convinced that had. He been racing for Red Bull this weekend that he would have competed with Max tap and somehow even though this performance was you know in a midfield since on I don't know if he would've yeah. What about this one? If if maximum step and where Torah Russell got onto the podium would even celebrating he's Patriot. Result or through another capable had Mike Weber expected that one we thought Dan ricotta thought. I was GONNA yes. I am not that predictable. had been there he would have crashed with maximum. Snap Finish Fifth Michelman other Andrew. James do wrapping up the Brazilian Grand Prix Of course the manufacture stood was call signs for the man who could've finished third d crossed the line third. Yes Lewis Hamilton. The guys the champion. Yeah no ready but didn't didn't end up there in the classification. You've got a penalty after the Spanish. Our off to the rice or something like that no less than that. It was immediately after the rights in fact credit to. Lisa's says repenting Alexander albums running second at the time was on his first podium until Hamilton. Ponder demow absolute credit to handle the. I didn't expect these. Maybe it's because because he's already the champion but in the press conference absolutely admitted it was his fault He was called to the stewards. I don't know how many people read these but in it was during the press this conference but instead of going he sent a team representative they just to say. Please give me a penalty. I deserve it. Self reported essentially self reported so penalized. Really really you reckoning would have done that if you want now interesting Dr Mike would make. I don't know why more them on politicians are lawyers. Because the as I said it's not alive you believe but how much credit does that bank him amongst you now. I don't know about the students particularly. Let's say in the sport that he put his hands up because he essentially surrendered third pious so Nixon. Maybe when he does win for punching someone someone off the same syndrome get Beckham Campbell's right Yo- characteristics so Lewis end up the the penalty five-second penalty ended up seven actually moved on my Daniel. Kadhafi seeks habit that considering he was last ten or something from him saying before you bet you know he would give to be a fly on the wall in the F. is to wonder what what goes on when they want to disqualify someone from the rice. Yeah he's coming up can we. Yeah we the very exactly what it's like. It's just a shame. They caught actually use the black flag to get people but those drivers who are not trying hard enough. This is the love if it was a one imagine I mean I mean he's really. Could you imagine rocket aid or he will imagine in a parallel universe. Rocket aid is I tame. Netflix is saying the crazy house. He got the audio was doctor. Thursday found him it. A Kati grace was also young. But imagine a hassle mango. Sean came back this just this crash seeds each other vegetables would say on the radio. BELIEVE IT I'm not convinced that doesn't talk like that exactly really liked that. I look forward to that could be owned by Alan John's anger in this jolly and he is so funny. It's completely over. The talk could on having you crack. Kevin good old-fashioned Z.. Crack Mercedes actually had a pretty average rice. It's got to be said other than technically was on the podium but he was off the pace as what the pace valter potus had essentially an engine fight. It was something to do with oil consumption wolf a wife or a whole if you will learn for one rice the absolutely absolutely shut the bid and they even admitted with with the safety. They are the first. I've got the second safety. Kelly brought Hamilton for new tires to light and they almost didn't resume the rice. He threw away. Second place would have just finished fourth without rising even whoever was in China's James also James Valves whoever was in charge these rights of the team in in total Lou. Say I was a dumb mistake. We made a dumb mistake. Don't often get that from Mercedes. Can we go away walks neutrals a TV show ashby on foxtel because obviously the TV Rod Soldo and just like we just have twenty four minutes wake of just dispersing teen radio clips with breath. We have youtube as crazy over the light that I think is what what about. That website streamed video stream something. Oh yeah one videos rocket. VR payback. Just look at the comments on the AD signs finish third and this was the two maiden podium get is in one rights. When was the last time that happened? Someone probably know. He's a big result for ninety signs. Considering this is finally it's hard to believe that he debuted pretty much same. Time is macro Sapin did equally. Well I'm willing to say not season more or less as for stopping and he's taken in quite a long route to getting these first podiums doesn't go first. We know Veasley but as we were saying before I podium for McLaren's it's twenty fourteen. The finally they starting to say this very Fairly specific circumstances but that project is starting to come good. We know they've confirmed now. Forth into constructors standings. Well Reynaud very good weekend for him. Yeah interesting with this whole new car. Can I had. I actually proven themselves that that can be trusted to stop doc again because it's almost well they it's rock the it's interesting for twenty twenty one the going back back to the Messiah spot the sheep. It's almost as if this Reynaud partnership has yielded so many good fortune and goodwill for them. It's almost like is it worth taking that risk Toddler Towel on on on that one. But it's just refreshing to say such a happy McLaren all over again in the postal Lonzo era It's almost like the shackles are off. It's it's like going to school at fire. Teaches of tend up now. Mr Alonso strikes here at all he's gone. Police turned up one day and I don't know why he's gone. He's he's gone. It is good news obviously for McLaren one thing I want to touch on though and this is something we haven't got solid answers to. We talked about it last week and obviously the week before in reference to the United States Grand Prix is we don't for he's been cheating we don't know because of course they were technical director of issues in the US about a few there was another one. He shooting Brazil to do with the conveniently Brca Pot exactly completely contested. Now it's on fire do constantly paces this weekend. They were quick on interstate laundering practice. Not so much not as much in qualifying. They were quickest in the speed trap during the race. The straight line speeds kind of there but we had a really interesting race in terms of engines this weekend because Honda was pretty much Mercedes was sort of. They actually a little bit of the pace for I was there about right now. It's hard to say because they know any good cars. But we've finally feels like this is the first time in a rights we've had this parody like genuine parody which is is what's been a long time coming up the you know what I just had a random thought all weekend. I just kept thinking poor up and commits a whole George Russell because I mean can you imagine being Williams at this at this point in their career effectively the minority of modern formula. One now of just like you there just to you there to make up the numbers I mean we say there were no crap taped formula one cars. Yes maybe maybe that's a better Diplomatic unused usual say Williams crept probably unfair but crept cat most certainly mhm imagine just turning up and just where do you find the motivation. Just to cut lapsing guy. I am literally rising my body. I then when you are not at as level not at our mayor's level you just you would literally running your own Reis against your teammate. And that's not fun. It's must must be absolutely miserable. I've been asking them looking for the end of the season. Of course they've been saying yes. Cuba's Formula One career. We'll probably finally be an end to the end of the room to be some kind of development deal with US may include some seat time but probably not a race contract. Apparently he's trying to angle for a seat in twenty twenty one but I can't see how likely likely that's going to be. It is very sad fun learning the Brazilian Grand Prix. Though I wanNA take you back to the year that was twenty fifteen so to paint. The picture was much like this. You actually Mercedes won the constructor's championship and it's pretty obvious. Lewis how to drive yeah. It's pretty obvious. Embarrassment Haas was not in the sport year now coming in the next year and we knew that we're going to be running a Ferrari Baker in fact teams complaining. You might remember that. Essentially running fry bake in platform and the one on Higher Asian. Yes Yes yes Greg Rostislav fixture of your formula on viewing before channel ten went bankrupt. Imagine that and of course this is when people still believed in McLaren before they stop believing and now believing in the beginning obviously at this point in time we have a tweet in from Jamie Penny. I sniff learn how to pronounce that name Creepy. I hope that's painting penny. Whatever it is the point is he's tweeted? Did he said a certain individual with initials. Rj predicted on the two thousand. Fifteen Christmas special. I didn't go back and listen to this I read. I didn't the data McLaren Reynaud Reynaud in House that McLaren would school. The first podium between them am I. You arrive yes roaster drop. Rub stood Mr Trump It's not a catchy. You know where I'm going with a strikes again. Yes I'll tell you what are the. Would you believe that the time that you have to wait. Four years to find that with your prediction. Is that right. Yeah Jamie for keeping tabs on that one. Yeah it's pretty good I covet. It's very impressive. It's longer than some than most of our prime minister. Grab I'll tell you what there are a lot of bullshit artists in the one and certainly yeah probably informed on media thankfully I proclaimed to be native. Aw I am. I'm one of the greats guests bullshit autists former the one I told I told you. Fernando Alonso to McLaren overseas you do I told you then ricotta would be at a diner in being here is I am. I'm telling you I have. I have this this this gift. I use it on the podcast of your code once a week. Find Michael Manado and Rob James in chrome free. Wrap up what a what. A forecast water forecast is from yourself. Four years in the making incredible more accurate than most forecasts any more accurate than the train timetable. There a couple of things happening in the week leading up to the Brazilian Grand Prix. One one is that the owners of interlagos promote interlagos reckons that they'll be around for longer than the one more year they've got and that's because it will the spokesman beginning to Rio in twenty twenty one ED attractive building in Rio de Janeiro and military land but they haven't even started it they haven't even it's still a pock. Its wildlife in that pack said. How are they going to Rice around all these foxes and trades and the the answer is probably not going to be on the counter for a lot longer because comparable to track that I probably right? They would need to build. One in. Eighteen months seems not likely military grand. Does that mean it's not as Brazilian territory. I guess I'm disuse stupid. Doing drilled olds. Okay while the racist going on many ways fans of Interlagos you might get more than one more year breath. Point is point in time it seems like officially as much as there is a genuine social security threat Jenson button giving than what a hero these stories about interlagos and had genuinely terrifying the sort of that part of the world is It is actually. It would be sad to say God from I. Guess from a sporting sense because the of sort of memorable foam in the one month shootout over the easing of Santa with Android Naipao. Steering and having those we sort of got like apparitions with you. Know he's Lord I always use the guy in flavor NASA being champion for like twenty three seconds predom- many ease back. There's lots of yes certainly memorable phone on moments that he's sort would've sort of because it's it's not a classic like SPA or monitor. It's not in that sense but it's in that sort of Legros I. It's kind of significant It's like in the it's because it comes slightly after them doesn't it. It's not super historic but it's been around for thirty years now that's pretty good. They're doing pretty well They had one of the biggest crowds in several years. Is this weekend despite having no Brazilian driver on the grid in Las Sears. Well did they lost us the first time. I think you can have great say doing pretty well. We want to talk about Alex Elbow on sticking with red bull next because he has signatures Taylor. Also next year's it's segue him after another go. Hokum bigs finally admitted that it's over for him informed yes because genuinely humanly fascinates me the the sake of of of someone who's a WHO spends many many many many ease in the form of the one bubble and then just is to be out of it genuinely fascinates me because I could imagine it would either bay you got. It is what it is or you just be miserable and depress to do it. Not on your terms. I guess would be pretty difficult because up until recently he's being sitting still being formed and obviously now the only say Williams and we all know he doesn't want that long. It's not going to be an not really interested in developmentally. He says it'd be the Presi podcast today because you got a whole book. He's paid all of your childhood dreaming you become driver. Ginny Korea was pretty good You saved a lot of things and people say you're going to be the next Michael Schumacher. You didn't do that. You're out of it. So how does that feel. It's not right is it. I guess on the other hand he did become a former. The one driver never scored a podium Carlos Sainz now has a podium just got has eh massive loss. He's been around for ten years. Imagine just going okay. The last time so the Grand Prix conceivably. We'll be the last time he ever drives a former probably unless he becomes like the equivalent of Gospel to Jovian another feature of a full grown. Dr Driving a phone with one Cara gain muscle brundle. This is like the twentieth. We've done these segments. It's the Cy Fair we all. It's just put these for what's different. Yeah I I love those segments. It's like what do we the show. He gets to the point where I just have six of them and they just shuffled them and no one knows. It's the same ones that we use. He says he might go. indie comedy is not an oval racing. which seems like a teapot of Indika? So that's going to happen this year off. Why not? He's been working hard ten years and finally one of the Begin. Someone somewhat less field now. It was for shattered but not directly related to the sport but formula on Green by twenty thirty entirely carbon neutral from the sport sport itself on track stuff to the business which already moving towards to the teams and the teams that includes the individual event so the entire situation the whole a hot mess that is Formula One. WE'LL BE CARBON neutral thirty. It's an easy target and pulling in some respects rightfully scientists rights polluting. And it was probably I think something that in terms of mainstream The outside world at saw formula and fans like you and I'm Michael in Win Lose Elson said. Aw Vegas Megan because I care about the environment and then people build. It applied all these stray interesting. That's imagine really Sky News coming on. That's how imagine how people has left on twitter. That's what that's what they've ED likely. Fly Flying look good bargains. Be like the pro. Probably ties eyelid outs. Diesel is the best example that people say. Oh that's ridiculous I could you say that and yet got into private jet and Flyer or in world. It's I think it's also good because we've talked about this time. Various people in the sport talk about things that the sports fairly poor job since two thousand fourteen of selling the fact that the engine's never mind the wrist but the engine particular must have been young. Extremely sustainable we're up to fifty percent thermal efficiency which is unheard of in your average road. Car that's genuine progress environmental sustainable way. And they're talking about the Knicks Power Unit will have to aim for more sixty more sixty percent which will be tapes and I'm talking about bio fuels as well so that nope burning oil essentially and all of those things do contribute because as much as it feels like electric cars will be the future. Whatever let's talk? Maybe that hydrogen. It doesn't matter whatever the point is there's a lot of cars that are not those things on the road eating. We can do to make them. More efficient immediately lately has a much bigger impact than Mercedes releasing new electric car and a couple of thousand people buying it. Yeah no wonder if one fancy sheedy because we if one tries to make genuine effort to be sort of grain and reliable in at the forefront of hybrid technology and sustainability in the cause. Because of. That's hand like sheet and Taylor. I'd rather have twelve. That's that's a great shot. These aftershocks I bought about nightline with Philip Brady and Michael Andrew James Resilient Grand Prix but I regret to formula McGinley before we can actually wrap this up to just one more round or formula twenty nine The Brazilian Grand Prix results. What a surprise someone from America? Erica has led the way on two hundred forty three point nine. That's very hot dance. Chaz Ontai and I don't understand why what's the joke I'm not sure but good. Don't you two hundred forty three points quite a. Why hit of the second place team from Canada? Aren't you going to nineteen points racing for eight points. We scored two hundred nineteen of them. You did pretty well from fronts. I remember the last time we had such a a well. Decorated top three on two hundred and four points. Ads Eighteen fourth. This is my first F one season for America. I don't even know what flag that is for the and teams named if one fancy twenty nine. He's just like the boss of the groupies that you real. I'm not sure. What is that flag kicked chilly? It's not texting mailboxes. Dot Com probably thinking. Oh no I've clicked the ooh Jonathan Jonathan. I've clicked you think blacks. And what if I hope for over the flanked. We're GONNA look and say what roughly Ashley What Alphabet that is leaving with all everyone okay. So that was Jonathan from countries are known as unusual country unusual usual in fourth place. Shoot for the wind from America seeks ham six appeal yes well done from the UK. In ironically seven five equal seventh zoom zoom zoom. Audu from Australia nine five is the form. Moolah one team in brackets. I mean I get it. But I kind of don't owe equal ninth better. We know also from Australia. Equal ninth again team. L. H. Forty four UK the official Lewis Hamilton camps are one hundred ninety five points. Clearly you must have tipped himself and then twelve. Shane van Cheeseburger Berga his Brazilian Grand Prix. We've only one round left. Let's sick the overall leaderboard dominated by Americans still a number one that yes my renal circus Cobb on what clue uranium one. He's new on. I'm not sure I understand it but I at least I can pronounce announce it which I'm pleased by three thousand four hundred ninety seven points seconds. Three Thousand Water Nike Five points. Any twelve point between them is ten second penal colony. That could've gone could've gone in third place from New Zealand. Three thousand four hundred and seventy three points. So that's another twelve points back. I think Peter McGinley's Kiwi Kasi has any KOA cousins qazis either way forth from the United States. Three thousand four hundred celebrating points because they're getting further apart and todd decide Nikki's mclarens were allowed to have not changed their name fifth manno based very good six. Let's go for a spin with sabe apt for this weekend at seven. Seater Rinkins jacket touches these washing reshape. It's like putting concrete in the. How can I catch it? So much. Watering Nineties Haughty Christians and tenth. Trent priceless for everything else. This Boston cod good. Tonight was that point but You doing absolutely from Australia. Of course the boxer Nichols battle. Is it like the in favor in the menu with guys like Sheffield. What one hundred forty eight Luton town one? Hundred Ninety. Four fixations litigator overall overall. 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P. to find out exactly why I talk like this I had to tell my wife is my only boys. I need to sit down. Michael Manado End Rob James. That was the Brazilian growing free. Only one random formula go get amongst. I'm not going to watch it but I need because it works so so lost Let's see what happens. It's midnight in the rain in another weeks time. You've gotta you've gotTA run up to the weeks. The good bed at one o'clock saying at least fifty minutes of the twelfth lap policy. If it's good office phone watching Abbott on the festival now it wasn't if you the highlights that the laptop twelve four not a lot happened in the middle section of the rice. Top something Yes sticks we will preview leaving heavy w Grand Prix of course but if you WANNA more analytical look at the Brazilian Grand Prix you can see step. FEMA REPORT Card Strategy Report. I'm joined by Brazilian podcast of Fernando Kelso's associates of the program. You'll smell of wherever you ordinary. Get your customers go to Fox. 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AP Laboratory - Offseason running back conversation  (Ep. 134)

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AP Laboratory - Offseason running back conversation (Ep. 134)

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I'm preparing to prepare myself mid to late for this running back position review because it's kind of like the twenty twenty chiefs for Agency class like if you blink real quick. They're just not even there and so we're also joined by about Greg. Stout fight about twitter barley up. I know he's negate into some offenses skilled positions such as running. Back cy onto that Bob. This is my least favorite episode. Yet guys over the free agency RECAP RECAP Mattie. Let's get into it. I WanNa talk about running backs. Are we see them in our mentions all the time I think the mocks? She's gives some give running fair do let's do it. Let's do it and hey running backs I still. I still have a little bit of love for him. He would go to two thousand nineteen chiefs. We go ahead and we look at them. We look at the running back position and then the second half the show. We're going to look into the future. The outlook for the for the future in the draft picks and free agency and all that good stuff so first off Craig. How do the running backs do this year? They did well. I mean considering the investment that was put into the position it was pretty low. Shawn McCoy was added. He made a little bit of money. But frankly Damian Williams was very good in his role. He did exactly what he needed to that. Got A lot of out of Darrell. Who's got some out of Spencer? Where like for the amount of money that they put in the amount of assets or the lack of assets that they put into it. They actually did pretty well at the position. I think you saw differ guys at different times of the year kind of takeover. The chiefs showed their abilities. Different skill sets at running back. Lesean McCoy fake was definitely the best runner to start the season that he was able to be a little bit more patient Better vision some of the other guys so he started out here. What can a little better and as we went on he kinda faded but then we dare Williams. For a couple of games Damian Williams decided to be healthy and show up so it was just nice to see the ebb and flow throughout the entire season. Somebody who was always willing to step up and while say the chiefs running backs by themselves were never like that special like nothing about any of the performances ever great. It was always good. It was always good enough to help. The offense go along at no point in time. Was I ever just like itching? Thank running back was where this team needed to make another step. Yeah I mean overall if you look at the overall body of work it's a weird mixed bag and you know I was watching. I've been watching games just like the thirty minute short. Condensed broadcast version of games. At night of of this season the Shawn McCoy was good earlier. In the year like legitimately good and had some burst in some sudden is to him. It was making moves in space in. Like what happens. Sean Spicer. We're GONNA WE'RE GONNA get there. I'm sure but like I mean this this it's been. It's just been a weird year for running backs and the thing is in a weird year. Where there wasn't a ton of consistency. They want super bowl well. It was the biggest surprise. Mattie surprise is the amount of people still think you need to add more running back talent to this group of players because I think you just saw the cheese running back like we said. The talent was pretty mediocre. And it really didn't matter especially what's Patrick mahomes passing offense going. You could probably put any one of us back there in. Come out with some level of production. That wasn't terrible. That's just what a good offense and a good passing attack does for a running game like I said. I'm just surprised that so many people think that you need any league running back in this offense to produce my biggest surprise is Damien Williams. Run through the playoffs. I mean he really had kind of a harder. Stay healthy staying. You know had some consistency issues throughout the season and then when the when the playoffs hit he was outstanding and you know it was ultra productive in the run game in the past game Had A fantastic super bowl. It was awesome to see is good for him in the back next year. That's great but I mean that was. It was a really nice run in the end of the year. For for Damian Williams mind is Darrel Villarroel will. I'll tell you what they got enough out of him to really justify his roster spot before he got injured. I know he wanted to be there at the end of the year that he felt like he was healthy enough to contribute at the end of the season. But Darryl actually look really good through the middle of the season there got a couple of games run and showed that he's actually worth a spot. I think that that's that should give some people some hope. I know. We're getting into that pretty soon here but I really liked what we got to see. Daryl Williams a little bit surprised with what we'd seen kind of last season and a little bit in this preseason all right biggest disappointment I think my big. I'm disappointed in Leshan McCoy for saying something so terrible about Eric. Be Enemies mom that for some reason. He just got thrown into the doghouse. I I don't understand that completely. There was obviously some kind of dynamic behind the scenes. If you read between some of the lines with the press conferences and and all that stuff the dillashaw McCoy saga was fascinating. Because we heard you know. I remember the first time he was an active and it was load manage but then you fast forward to Miami and the chief serve managing his load for twenty twenty one when he's signs with the Cincinnati. Bengals like I. It's just it's bizarre. I the whole thing was a weird especially as how good. He was running the football early in the season I The biggest disappointment for me is that's been aware was once again unable to stay healthy even coming in a little bit bigger a little bit heavier maybe not quite as explosive dynamic. You've got to see what he brought to this team. In terms of pass protection understanding the offense and Helping Keep Patrick Mahomes upright there. When pat needed that stability in the backfield their him getting hurt yet again and not being able to finish the season yet again. It's just a long line of injuries for him. Unfortunately so that was a little bit of a disappointment that he wasn't able to stay healthy and Kinda finishing help contribute near the end of the year. The hanes down biggest disappointment for the chiefs running back group in two thousand nineteen was somehow the nickname. Daryl the barrel catching on with felons and even if with us on this. Podcast is one of the worst nicknames ever for any player of any position besides a Rodeo clown in somehow it has stuck but realistically I think Arlen Thompson and noticing that he was a disappointment. I thought the cheeks were going to find better ways to use his particular skill set. I thought they were going to be able to scheme up. Better ways to get him into space to get him out of the screen game to disguises. Looks a little bit more and we just didn't as much of as I thought we were. GonNa get especially when the chiefs were flooded with injuries at the position and begging eighty-one any able by detail carries. They just couldn't really get him in space as much as I thought they were going to be able to. We have breaking news breaking news. Mike Panel has resigned with the Kansas City chiefs. Good on audio into it on twitter except made enough enemies notice free agency period but everybody was getting all reminiscent about the entire folk back and I always wanted to quote tweet every single person. Say why Pinellas better I wanted. I wanted to bring Mike. I wanted to bring my car Atari back. I wanted to bring them back. Let's bring them both back. I if if PAT got hurt we would need thirteen backup quarterbacks. That's the only thing we had done free agency up until today we talked about Jordan Tamou. Because we're talking about running backs a replaying Jordan. Tamou running back now. He could run. He can run all right. Let's give tax. Do we need to talk to Ed? Do we need to talk anymore about Michael later? It's good for the chiefs made sense to my cornell. I'm very excited that he's back. That's Awesome I. I don't know how they're going to do it. With five hundred fifty. Five thousand dollars cap space put. A move has to becoming at some point. Where were we reason for optimism at? Yeah that's where we are for optimism. Craig a reason for optimism. You got a lot out of a little investment Damian Williams is the perfect guy for this offense. He just fits everything that Andy Reid wants to do when he's healthy when he's playing this peak which is typically you know December January February apparently. That's the perfect time. Then you got a worker course back in the type of you know type off into Andy. Reid wants to run their so. In that regard you have him. You Have Darwin Thompson. You Have Daryl Williams. Frankly that's good enough for what Andy Reid wants to do. And the amount Andy. Reid wants to run the ball. Yeah for me. The the reason for optimism moving forward is you could go. You could play tomorrow with this group. No doubt about it and Damien Williams is back. They've they've actually included some good some good some good lottery tickets into this mix too. I really like what they've done. They've added Mike Weber who I had a fifth round great. I believe on in last year's Casey draft guide they added Elijah McGuire. Who has some pass catcher ability so like they've actually already given themselves a lot of good? You know lottery tickets in that group. They're gonNA have good competition. I mean they're going to get as much probably probably will get more out of the running back group this year or next year. Then they got out of it this year and without even having to try too hard. My biggest reason for optimism is wanted guy just talked about is Darwin Thompson was rarely used. He was only used out of necessity and I think he was. Just kind of put into the same situation that every other running backs So I'm excited to see him with another year in the office. Maybe it's like half a year given the weird circumstance. The world more time with the office more time with Andy Reid. How are they GONNA use him? Can he explained? Israelite Kelly's is the runner. He's a hard tough physical runner for his size. I want to see if his role can grow in twenty twenty and see if he just starts to become more of a focal point if an offense or at least a heavy rotated piece all right current current twenty twenty outlook. You've got Damian. Williams you've got Daryl the barrel Williams I started that Mattie by the way Darwin Thomson Mike Weber. Elijah McGuire Good Solid Group Rolling into twenty twenty. Mattie deed will just be pencilled in as your starter. I mean I think at this point in time you have to be a little worried going through his entire body of work that he can be a bell. I don't even know if he can be. You're running back one at the two headed monster just because the workload seems like it does get to him year after year but he's a good guy to have. It is kind of your lead back to start. I just think during different ways. You're going to have to rely on Daryl Williams Darwin Thompson. I would like to see Michael. Ever get a chance. I don't love him in the open field but I think he's pretty solid until he gets there and sometimes that's all you need at the NFL level to be positive play. I'm I'm with Mattie there. I think that this group is good enough like I said in the previous one was. There's reason to be optimistic because of this group already in place. You don't have to go out. Spend big money on getting a guy to do the sorts of things that Andy Reid wants to do. This group can do it so it's good. It's a really good outlook. They just won the super bowl with it that got to retain it and got good production out of it. It's not like the linebackers where they were poor and got poor production. They actually got good production out of the running backs Craig before we take a break. I just want you know you said breaking news and it you know Mike Pinellas awesome. I'm very excited to have him back. I thought we were getting something like even more big than that. I'm sorry the defensive. 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Hp officejet pro printer and HP instant INC that's HP DOT com slash. Get real all right. We are done looking at two thousand nineteen at the running back position. Now we look ahead to the future and we're going to look at some free agent fits we're going to look at some draft fits draft crushes. And we're going to start with a top tier free agents at the running back position. We're going with Devante Freeman. Mattie devante Freeman might be a year too removed from really being a top to your guy in Cuba. That's okay for for what's left. We are deep into free agency now. So you're not going to have a top. Few guys left. Devante Freeman Clearly top tier of the guys that are less he very much does fit the scheme he worked really well outside zone runs. He's not the most patient or kind of like flea foot rudder but when he stretches his own out and he sees a cut-back lane. You'll wait for when the opened up when he sees he darts through it in a hurry he gets loaded the ground like I do think he would fit really well with what the chiefs like to do with the running backs. He's plus receiver. I do just want that. He is trending the wrong direction. Maybe change of scenery getting injected into a better offense can do wonders at this late in the process. You never know what a guy coming off. Another down injury riddled year. Do for like we're talking about top tier guys like if you look at the top tier of the respective of a top tier free agent I mean this is about what I think is probably a top tier free agent for this football team And it's not going to be a heavy investment. You're probably looking at a one year deal and you're just seeing what he has left because you know even ninety percent of what Devante Freeman has been in the bat in the past is a really nice quality piece to this offense and if you can get ninety percent of what Devante Freeman has been in the past. You're getting a dynamic piece to your offense and the price at top tears up probably one year six million dollars. I guess something along those lines i. It's worth noting. That devante Freeman had fifty nine receptions for four hundred ten yards and he got targeted seventy times. That's five point nine yards per target. That is more yards per target the Damien Williams had and we talk about him. Is this great receiving back? Devante Freeman in the right situation. Makes a Lotta Sense. He's not a home run hitter. In the same way that Damien Williams is so. He's not anymore at the very least. He's more of a grinded out. Guy Like matty said in these outside zone type runs trying to get some more of those tough runs by by using his vision and playing smart not the same guy but he is a guy that would make sense as they clump. Complimentary back to Damien Williams. Let's talk about mid-tier guys now and we're going to out breaking news. The chiefs have side Anthony Sherman to a one year deal in the running back conversation breaking news back toback segments baby. I really really really just want to skip over this. Because I don't want to blast the chiefs for wasting another year of John Lovett while we feel the pay with no cap space a worthless positional player that we don't use the cheese right. Knock it so. Let's just clap. Our hands silently for another fullback. That is gonNA waste money on the roster. Replace specialties. How that sounded charged. It's the running back position sitting on it and I was sitting on it because I saw it already and I was hoping it wasn't gonNA come up. Leroy had it first yesterday by the way but now Tarez has as announced that is happening chiefs. Are we on deal and right now? You guys are deals invaded. This is somewhere. They have five hundred fifty. Let's just pause five hundred fifty five thousand dollars cap space. Another move has to come is it. L. D. T. Is it Sammy? Watkins are are they finally. Here's one thing that could be. They might maybe they finally restructured Sammy. Watkins this is just a yes. They finally restraint or Sri Structured Sammy Watkins because the market has been set by Robbie Anderson. Perhaps think about it. That's not bad that's not bad. There's logic to that. I wouldn't agree with that. There's logic to that or some team already traded Sammy Watkins now. Nobody's traded Sammy Watkins after Robbie Anderson. We're billion dollars or Sante traded for somebody else or some teams. I try not to bring up Chris Jones. Okay yeah okay. Sure you did ninety. I don't know they sound. Something's got to happen here now. I mean something does have to happen here now. They if something's coming they've pushed it all the way. They've held their car. They've held their cards to the vest this entire like off season. They've had literally like well. Not chump change because five hundred. Fifty thousand dollars is a lot of money. I could deal with that right now but I mean this a competitive. Yeah maybe by the end of this pod. We're going to have more answers. I don't know it's very fitting that in the running back pod we spend all this time talking about how running back. Don't matter that we are consistently interrupting the podcast for other things running back related. We interrupted it. Well one of them is running back related. It's related special teams related and nothing else. I really don't get the whole Anthony Sherbet and that is really going to upset like several people that listen to this show. Oh yeah I I made people upset with that and I apologize guys but that was the raw unedited reaction to sing that money on a full back to play taper set of offensive snaps special teams. Dave Tobe is having himself in off season boy. We need to get through this so we can't talk to okay Back to your regularly scheduled programing mid Tier Chris Thompson. A Chris Thompson. You're grabbing him. Because he's got quality pass catcher traits and he's a very good pass catching running back you can flex them out. He's very versatile in that regard and that's really is value and I think you could probably get him at a decent rate. It's not going to be. I mean honestly all these running backs. You're not going to be spending much on running backs. What Melvin Gordon? Get EIGHT MILLION DOLLARS. Eight million dollars. Ap Y yes on a one year deal no two year deal. Oh good for him. I it's it's it's still a little. I mean the cheese could probably afford it still. Somehow I think Kris Kristofferson makes allowances as a pass catching back. Yeah he definitely does. And that's basically all he is at this point you don't want him rounded the ball he just hasn't looked good run the ball and he hasn't gotten the opportunities do so because he has a good run in the ball but he's still catches the ball pretty well. I'd flies him out a little bit. He's coming offer some down year so he's certainly cheap now like you can probably get him in this rotation for next to nothing and who knows maybe you make him. Look good in the preseason. And you're able to trade him to Bill O'Brien because bill. O'brien needs many running backs as possible. Any first round pick fitting around Chris Thompson was just purely receiving guys he was. He came off the big bad back injury to get into the NFL. He finally started. Look like he's turning it on a little bit. There in Washington in The Washington redskins did their Washington redskins thing. He was a little bit injured again. So thrilled to tell what you have with him. But as far as a guide to the Flyer later free agency that would probably cost next to nothing. Bring him in Chris Thompson Electric running receiving running back on healthy. Give them a chance. He can actually split out by real rows at times two. So He'd be a lot of fun to the offense you just after opie stays healthy all right. Let's go ahead and look at the best. Free agent fit now and Mattie. We're going with Corey Clement. Yes so another Wisconsin running back here that we were just talking about end. He's been with Philadelphia. I don't think he's been particularly good coming in with anything. The Eagles have done but he's been buried behind some other running backs. They felt the need to always get somebody. Maybe two guys ahead of them. But anytime he's been forced the playtime. He's looked pretty good. He may not be the best pure runner out there right now especially with the Way Philadelphia kind of used them but as a receiver. I think we can all remember making some plays leading up to the Super Bowl. The Super Bowl. He made some plays in receiving game. Actually getting down fields or just he's shown flashes stuff that makes them useful for current style. Nfl team which the chiefs very much are. I think he'd be again. Another fun guy that would cost next to nothing to bring in that can affect the game on the ground and through the air. Dan He's actually a pretty decent returner as well. That's another guy. Another reason that he could fit in there into this rotation and again coming off of a very poor year. He's going to be ridiculously cheap. So that's a guy that you can just bring you into the mix head him compete with Mike Weber. Have Him Kinda rushing running in here with that fourth spot? He just makes a lot of sense. Because he's GonNa run an Andy Reid style offense. He's going to come in. No the terminology know what he needs to do to get on the field and so he's a guy that can maybe look good and camp and you can see kind of building up any of these often throughout the year. Do they sign somebody? Craig no I just don't think that they do. I think that they've got enough guys in the room that they like. I think that they genuinely do like Mike Weber. I mean if they sign a guy it's going to be maybe late in Otas or training camp whenever that's going to be now I think it might be just a camp body that we get to see here. I don't think that they're going to go out and make any moves. Particularly since guys like Melvin. Gordon Todd Gurley that maybe could move the needle on the ground. A little bit more are completely off the market. I think that was the only real chance to make a move was gonna be a guy like todd. Gurley or Melvin Gordon. If you could find them on a one year deal really cheap it essentially just rent them to plug and play them into the offense like he did with Shawn Mccoy since anyone of that caliber. Besides maybe freemen's out there. He would be the oldest guy. His precious keeps falling that. I think I could see following that mold but if not him I just don't see happening. I don't think they're bringing in more guys to battle to be part of her rotation. Yeah if anything substance. And they shouldn't and they've got enough in the building they can continue to add lottery. Tickets income away with the quality group by the end of the offseason. And Yeah they might be able to trade somebody for Bill. O'brien to I'm here to to Bill Brian as well. I mean because that's just it's it's theft. It's just delicious our rights. Let's look at the draft now favorite prospects matthew. This was a surprise to anybody. Listen to us. Talk about the draft but Clyde Edwards. Hell air running back from. Lsu Guy throughout the entire s built like a tiny little bowling ball. They apparently has very good hops. Which I think surprised a lot of people but if you watch him play he definitely suits for a couple of steps in that. Top speed is not where he excels. He's definitely not the fastest but his vision combined with this balance and just his ability to make people miss or run through them in the open. Field is incredible. And that's not even what he does best. He's at his best as a receiver. He makes catches with his hands away from the body. He they had running the Texas or the angle rallied the combine that he just looks like he's on a different planet compared to every other running back. There's other good receiving running backs out there. Clyde Edward Tillers game not only fits the chiefs perfectly. But he's just so different than what you see out of most running backs these. He's just so much fun to watch bounce around off guys much bigger than them. Hit people a spin move after spin move like his be button stuck down on his playstation controller so I just had a lot of fun watching him and he just happens to fit the chiefs perfectly. I'm going with Antonio Gibson He's a guy that I'm a little bit higher than I think. Most people are and some people have been classified as a wide receiver. He's kind of a mixture of between the two. The senior will ask them to play running back and then at the. Nfl combine used plod receiver. I like him as a running back. I like the idea of throwing him in the running back room and letting him lean on some of his wide receiver passed to make him a more dynamic running back he because because I think he actually ran okay between the tackles when I saw him on. He has good contact balance. He's explosive but he's a guy that's like he's big six to win it the catch point two. So he's like he's a unique piece and you've got to come up with with a plan for his development. I think my plan for development would be running back because I think he can be good in pass protection. I think he can run between the tackles. He has good balance. He's got long speed. He ran a sub four four at the combine. He's also got special teams value. Dave tove is GonNa love this guy. He had three hundred eighty six all purpose yards. In one. Game he caught a touchdown touchdown touchdown and he returned along touchdown. He's a unique player. He's a he's a probably a four core special teams guy with potential to be a dynamic. Pass catching weapon in the offense as well yeah. I'm going Joshua Kelly. Ucla another guy. That's good between the tackles good enough vision. He didn't catch a whole lot of passes at Ucla but when we saw him at the senior bowl he was routing up some admittedly very poor linebackers out there but he was making him look really silly he honestly was the best looking running back that we got to see there. He just looked like a more complete back than the rest of the guys that we were seeing and that was a good thing to see because we frankly didn't expect him to be much of anything so he popped in a big way there plus he already called. Patrick Mahomes the best player in the world when we interviewed him so he's automatically on the board right now so bring me Josh Kelley. All right best fit in the draft for the Kansas City chiefs. And it is. I mean he would probably be all of our favorites Clyde Edwards Hilar-. Craig Yeah this is the guy that Joe Barreau said was what his favorite player to play with the smartest player. They'd be played with the one guy that he can bring with him to the next level like to the NFL team. He could take anybody off either one of his football team at Lsu or Ohio state. If you chose Clive Edwards. That is silly that I should tell you that kind of brains kind of it. If your quarterback like Joe Borough you need trust there in the pocket and he obviously trusted. Clyde Edwards hilarity. Do everything that he needed to do. Andy was a good runner. Like some teams going to over think clydes athleticism and caused him to drop. Let Him and let the chiefs pick him up. Frankly because I do not condone running backs early but I do condone Clyde Edwards Hilar- I don't Clai don't call Hashtag. Couldn't Clyde Hashtag Condone Clyde? I think I kind of said every piece I need to about Clyde Edwards layer being the best fit for the chiefs This I do not endorse drafting. Running back hardly ever if Clyde Edward hilarious sitting there staring at you in the third round a year the end of the third round. Pick Ninety six into like. Hey we have to pull the trigger year. That's fine out completely happy if you do it in the second round. I'm upset that you took a running back but give me one week in happy that he is on my football team. That's the most excited I will ever get for a running back being drafted. You could talk me into him at sixty three. I think and I am not pro running back. I don't think running backs matter all that much. But at his pass catching value. I think makes him a little bit more unique? And I think that's the thing is like when I'm looking in when I'm looking at running backs I'm really leaning on pass catcher traits and I'm projecting and I'm valuing based on their pass catching traits. He's good impact protection. He's really good as a route runner already and I think he can get better. I mean my guy caught a corner route flex down the slot and he's five foot. Nothing he runs good. I think matters time I was angle routes earlier. They're nasty. I mean you could talk about him at at the combine in real games. He is just breaking off. It's like he is. He's one of the most enjoyable players watching this entire class. And I do think I wonder if teams are going to over. Think him because of his athletic testing our day three sleeper. We're going to go with the Michael P Ryan out of Florida. And he's a big back that has pass catcher traits and has pass catching production and those are things that That Brett visas typically coveted the things that I little concern me about him. I his contact balance. I think should be better than what it is for a guy his size and I feel like he should have more contact bounce than he does and I feel like you should be better in pass protection and then he is at this point but I think a lot of what his issues are impasse protection or technical and if he just continues to work if he gets into Kansas City. Del Makola Eric Vietnamese Andy. Reid all cleaning clean some things up for him and they could really has some nice value as a big back that can catch football and has has experienced at already. Give me a thick dude that can catch the ball for two hundred and fourteen pounds. Nobody isolate that two hundred and fourteen. Pounds five eleven. I'd just I think that appearance guide. That makes a ton of sense for the chiefs because he can play again between the tackles there. He's he's already developed pass catcher. That's a situation especially late late late in the draft. There that you can get a little bit more of a steal. He's pretty decent athlete too. So I think he's a guy that could be a real good. Fit Nadiri dominance. Here's what I really like about. Michael P ride two years ago. Before his senior season he was definitely. They're bigger back there. Bruiser back as they had scarlet. Aaronson other guys. He decided he wanted to be more part of the passing game. He wanted to partake in the receiving game. He lost about fifteen pounds. Morgan do his senior year at. You can see in some of his runs. He clearly lost his contact. Balances Power to run through tackles but all of a sudden only one year focusing on his receiving ability because that was now enrolling needed. He became a good receiver for Florida. Like they used him. Allies receiver similar to Clyde Edwards. Hilar- he's running wide receiver routes. He's really good breaking off linebackers Move My main has overtaken enchants for a running back. You see that in the game. He snags passes out away from his body. I really like what he brings. His receiver unlikely said he's got a little bit size to him so he fits that mold that she's look for. I think he's only going to get better as receiver from where we're at right now. This is one year of really focusing on it as a baseline. So that's really exciting to me. All right that is going to do it for the running back review we'll be back with the AP draft show on Friday. We will catch you if there was a spreadable COOKEVILLE. Fake -able plant faced butter. That was better for your body and the planet. 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The 75O: Grading the 2019 Dallas Cowboys draft class

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The 75O: Grading the 2019 Dallas Cowboys draft class

"Welcome back to this. Then five oh, I am your own RG Ocho. He is your seven five two times. Superbowl champion college football hall of Famer and fresh. I imagine off of watching perhaps the most disgust episode and television history game of thrones. Tony Casillas Tony Monday to you. I gotta disagree with you. We'll happy Monday to you know, that that your your sweet spot when it comes to game throngs and along with I don't know millions of people throughout the country. But I guess the old man is not one of them. Hey, I'm a big fan. I'll live vicariously through you, and my son and everyone else that watches the show. So you you don't watch the show at all. Right. It's not like, I under- something. No, I have not participated not the one. I have not watched one game of thrones a minute. I mean, I think I've seen some of the trailers. But now, well you were late to breaking bad. And I remember when we discussed that here. I have a feeling. That in like a year or something you're going to get onto game of thrones. You'll be like, dude. Whoa. I was missing out. It was I'm be honest that I know that you had seen like everybody was looking forward to this episode. It was it was epic. But it really didn't. Resolve a lot of issues. I feel a little unresolved. Mean it sounded to me, and I saw ending on social media that there's a lot of people being killed off the show was that the suspense that was the idea, and I'm not worried about spoilers here. Because this is this is like a sporting event. You have to have watched it. It was a huge battle and a lot of fighting and a lot of swords and everything, but there were no real characters of significance that died. And this is this is a show that's been unafraid kill characters have significance. And this was the biggest battle in television history. And you were not sad about anything. You know, there have been times that you've been devastated. A character died last night. You would just kind of like whatever so disappointed. I mean, so the ultra bad guy died or one of them. There are a lot. So that was kind of cool. And so it was it was really actioning. You know what I mean? It was like, I guess the best way to quit. It would be like it was like a movie that the rock does. Like there was tons of action. You know what I mean? But it will. Yeah. It was I I've seen that. And I think just the the core graph the what they do and everything else, and I believe and again, and I don't think on this. Oh, dude that doesn't is in the current events and current when it comes to something like this. But wasn't this episode didn't take like three months or something? Like that. See I've seen the the sad and it's phenomenal. But didn't take a long time to get it done. It took a long time from that physical perspective like building everything. But it also took a long time from a story building perspective because all of these characters have been in different places throughout the whole show. And so now they're all finally in this one spot for. This huge battle. I mean, we've we've wasted wasted. But we spent hours of our lives watching the show and learning about these things. And so again, it was cool. But I feel like I just I was left wanting more. It was I gotta fill in a sense. So did you ever watch sopranos? I have I it's on my to do. But I never have. Well, it's you know, it's it's an older series on on HBO, obviously. But you know, it's kinda like the game of thrones. And and for me because I haven't washed sopranos is remarkable main. If you like if you like the gangster kind of movies and just a whole Tony soprano. But anyway, I recommend that. So what I'm getting to? It seemed like to me the last episode of the sopranos was very kind of lefty like is that all so I don't think game of thrones is probably going to go down that road because I don't know you just can't live up to the high. But. But I I'm with you on I'm gonna get you know, what that's I'm gonna take some time. And I'm gonna try to get in the next hopefully by the year kind of worked at in my playlist shirt, I'll say this. Because now you've seen breaking bad. I went into this episode hoping that it would be better than the breaking episode, titled hor. That's a big challenge there, brother. But the episode Mandy which was the battle between me and go me and the guys that were trying to steal the money from Walter and everything that did. So the money, and that that's the greatest episode of ever seen of any show because Hank dies. You know, what I mean like your left devas and mine where he's like your you want to continue. Yeah. You wanna he's not supposed to die? He's he does like, yeah. It's real that's the game. But you don't want the character today because it's end of this character. Now this game of thrones episode wasn't quite there. It was awesome. But it just it was like it was like when you're not always hungry for like a full meal. I understand sometimes you hungry for like a steak, but sometimes I am hungry for like a steak and potatoes and some asparagus and stuff and it's like last night. I got this incredible slab meat. But that was it like, you know, what I mean? I just had that was the only thing on my plate. And so I ate, and it was awesome. I could could've gone with for like, MAC and cheese or something on the side. So you got what four more weeks, and then you maybe you can get the, you know, the desert and cherry on top else that goes along with that three more episodes, just three. Okay. We'll see how it goes. But it was and then there's going to be the spin off with maybe a movie. So I don't think it's over yet. It was a huge weekend for stuff like that avengers also came out. And I said, you're someone inside the wife, and I saw that that was crazy. And of course, the NFL draft. I'm exhausted. I'm not gonna lie. This this Monday. I'm exhausted. I've spent a lot of energy and a lot of things lately. Well, I'm a little emotionally exhausted. Because a Friday or Saturday was my my twins. Last prom is a senior prom. Great. And it was kind of it was bittersweet. It's amazing eighteen year old kids when a dress up, and and how beautiful enhance and these kids are think that's the last senior prom. And then they'll go on and do other things, but still, you know, my wife, and I I probably going to be more of an emotional wreck. Probably. And I I guess I have a tendency to maybe hide that. But it was it was it was fun. It was great to see that. And also went to wedding. Which is you mentioned, you know, MAC and cheese, and mashed potatoes and everything goes along with to this great wedding. And it's actually a friend of mine. Wife's and I've I've become friends with her husband. She's actually one of the wives on real house. Excuse me wheel real housewives, Dallas. Yeah. And so she she invited us. But it was it was it was kind of an alternative nothing against that. I mean, it's just different. And it's great people watching. But they didn't have anything to eat what. And I'm not. So they had an open bar, and you know, what it's like if you have an adult beverage without any food little like appetizers, and so my wife, and I had you ended up leaving early. So we could go and actually eating we went out to stay. But but I was a little mostly emotionally. Kind of up and down on that with with twins. But it was a great wedding. But probably not as depressing as your weekend. Sounds the game. Definitely more productive. Good week. I said that I saw the photo of you and your family at a t shirt on that said the man the legend so good for you. Well, here's the thing. I did not do that. It's like an old navy shirt. I had and had a rip in it. And you know, we went took these pitchers friend of mine's got a beautiful home and just gardens and everything. And I didn't even think about what I had on actually had a rip underneath a, but I did not do that intentionally. Well, I'm going to just. My last question before we talk draft. So the woman that got married is she's one of the house. She asks he's accident named leeann lockin and she's in. I'm not really I'm not a fan and nothing against her. She's a tremendous woman. She's a great Trump personnel. Love her love. Her husband Ritz disagreed, dude. But I the only reason why I know any of these shows because my wife pretty much makes me watch him. Nice, and she tvos and she's been a big fan of and she likes that. I mean, it's kind of mindless, but she's one of the cast on there. She's one of the wives. And she actually she's legitimate wife now because she got married. So is this. Yes. It's going to be on TV. Like, I'm sure it is. I don't know. Yeah. There was cameras that are actually filming the the whole wedding. And I don't know if we made you're gonna make the final cut. But it was it was it was a fun wedding. The only thing that I they lack with something. Because you know, as you know, you go to like that. There was a great ban. But yeah, I was pretty the look for may we'll make the cut and you'll see us on real housewives at Dallas. I've course, I mean, why else would you be except for? So the twenty nine thousand NFL draft is in the books. Cowboys started off with six picks. They did some trading in some dancing, and they ended up with eight selections last time, we spoke the first round was over. We had our fun with the New York Giants and Daniel Jones, the Washington Redskins look to have gone a little bit better. The eagles got the tackle they wanted. But tony. Hey shots. Yuma. Man. Cowboys went defensive tackle what the overall pick tristen hill, are you hyped. Are you not hyped? I mean, are you wanting to leave the wedding and get some food? Well, honestly, I thought that I was proud of Dallas. I thought that they held serve and we talked about this on our show last week is that they went out and they didn't tackle the knee. They waited pick a safety what to the six round. And we'll talk about the safety and everything else being a priority. But they Don all the guys they like they were xactly. Yeah. So the fifty eighth pick. So there was guys there that they could have well, you know, maybe we'll draft him. But I think every team that's why like what the Cowboys did they have their own in the formula and how they wanna draft players, and I feel good with what they have. And I think they felt like on their board that interested hill was was the best player valuable. And I thought it was a it was a good pick. It remains to be seen. Big, dude. Six three three eight. Seems to me what rod Maranello lax about it is that he's got a high motor. But I like the pick. I think again, you gotta stay within yourself, and the premiers how you wanna draft and. The I don't know how it's gonna play out. I guess I'll give him a sif for that particular, maybe be minus or c just based on that they they held their ground. And did exactly what they wanted to do on the draft. I would be minus myself. Partly because the pick was so telegraphed everybody knew that. That's what they were going to go. You know, the whole world knew that they loved Tristan hill. And that was the guy they wanted to draft. So I mean that adds a little bit of takes a little bit of shine away from me. But on the other side of that token, I mean, they have been with the lone exception of taco they have been very good when they have gotten their guy, and they are very good at over the course of the offseason doing a lot of homework and devoting a lot of time to finding that guy. They're gonna take with their first pick. Obviously there's a bit of a challenge this year. Picking fifty eighth is your first pick is a little bit difficult. But I mean that was the guy they owned in on that was zeroed in on this dude studes over three hundred pounds, and he's an enormously talented athlete. I mean, that's a rare thing and put that in the middle of your defense with DeMarcus Lawrence and Robert Quinn on the outside. I mean, I don't know. I feel like it is amazing. How Cowboys culture couch Twitter tends to flip flop lot. We've been saying for years how they have devalued the defensive tackle position that they haven't invested in. That's why they don't have a flesh Cox or somebody. Like that. Because they're just trying to get by with these average Joes and they've turned adverage Joe's into legitimate contributors. But now, they got legitimate talent. There's reason to be excited. It's b minus maybe even a B from me on that particular pig. Why can turn the page and go all the way back in nineteen ninety two when they drafted a guiding Leon Lett from important state and not to say that there's going to be you know, this kid or any kid drap it when you get to the second and third row third round. It's it's like any there's no guarantee that all the picks. They drafted this year throughout the NFL gonna end up there, whatever, you know, how what the case may be because you got to remember, and we talked about this as we were covering getting ready for the first round is that the whole NFL's not made up first rounders nurse free agents. There's late draft picks may nest the plethora the roster so this is really necessarily. Now doesn't matter. What you drafts in? I know people on Twitter the like, well, why did you do that? You know, that's a stupid tech. Well, you know, I think that's initial reaction because no one's and tristen hill. I think probably only the people that really heard about him people within their football people in the draft and everyone the personnel player personnel did their due-diligence and and a lot about this kid. So I think that again when you watch him play. I've watched. Some of this plays. I researched him and the guy the only place pretty hard. I think that's what Rodman Ellie likes is that when you turn the film on. And that's the biggest key. I think with the defensive lineman is at how many places he take off. Is it one out of four is he play three out of four because the guys are big, man. So you gotta make sure he's Motors is going, and I think he really will fit into this type of defense because he is six threes got long arms and he's three eight. So I think he can create a lot of disruption the kids quick off the ball like and again, the defensive philosophy that they tried to run is to create disruption. And I think he may fill that void that. They don't have the guys they have on the line of scrimmage now. There's some discussion from you know, people that studied the draft all day every day. The tiger and conventional wisdom from a lot of people who are more tuned into the college game that central Florida misuse tristen hill and tried to play him at that one tech spot. It seems like, you know, Rodman Ellie drafted him to be three tech. It does seem his more true position our troops -sition. But certainly a place where he has a higher ceiling mean, you mentioned it. He's an athlete. I mean, you know, let them let them go. Yeah. I think that that's the key was some of these players, and you can be out of place in the wrong scheme. We've seen a lot of players and ASA football league. I go I use myself as great example, when I was when I was at Lanta, I was I was at one time it got to gap. I played both gaps. And you know, I was undersized. Then when I went to kind of Herod's Marinelli defense in the Cowboys Dave wants to at the time. It's like, dude, you're just gonna get filled. You're getting filled playing the three tech. And even if you're on shade in one tainting, you're still getting up field. So it's not one of these set there and catch catch a blocks. And yeah, you wanna eat blocks up. Then after that, dude. You're you're you're moving you're making place, you're up, Phil. That's what we're looking for. That makes sense. I mean, when I think one TEK I mean, like I'm talking like in my own brain. I think like like the fridge like that's the one tech in my mind, when I think three tech now, I think athletes, I think guys that that can move. In their contract and condense because you're right. I mean, it's a little bit of a different job. I mean, it's very different job. So it is exciting to see that Ron really got is the only other thing for me that takes some shine off. This is there's some question about tristen hills. Maturity, and dude, you just had this incredible athlete at defensive tackle, and David Irving, and he would have been amazing if not for his own maturity issues, I know that they've done their homework. But it's just you know, it's not fun to see that roll the dice. I don't know. I David Ernie Irving's strain. I I never seen quite seen someone like that. Like that cat in the National Football League coming you, can you can recall ARD for lots of different things players when it comes to character in over the Cowboys. They don't sacrifice that we know that they've had the, you know, the the propensity to go ahead and sacrifice the character when it comes to bring in bringing in the Golan. Hopefully, but I don't think look after what we sing David urban, man. I don't think that's a a fair comparison. But I know your point appoint is yet. I think if you turn every stone, you're gonna find something. But I think right now he's a second rally of fit the eighth pick. And look I mean, there's a lot of immaturity that goes along and your first year, but nothing like what we saw David Irving. I think that's just a bad drain shirt. I mean, all I'm saying is coming off of that. So. It's fresh in your mind. But I understand that. So what their third round pick to Cowboys stay in the trenches. Although they go to the other side of the ball and they drafted guard. I mean, everybody was thinking a lot of different directions for them with this pick. I mean there was you know, are they gonna maybe help safety last. They're gonna take running back at ninety. They're gonna you know, take a nejra show. I mean, there was a lot of ways that people don't they would go ofensive line did not feel like one of them. They take Khanna McGovern the guard at Penn State has some position flexibility compla- center, did something very rare at Penn State and that he started as a true freshman. It's pretty tough to do up in Happy Valley. So for me, this this is kind of like a C, plus minus type thing, and it has nothing to do with Connor is just because and I know they said he was the best player on their board and give them credit for sticking to the board there. It's just this. This is I had said I running back will be really fascinate. At ninety. This is kind of fascinated because so what's the plan? Are you going to let Lyle Collins walk after the year and kit, Connor Williams outside the right tackle? And then put replace one Connor with another Connor left guard. You know, because you you have Travis FedEx was to come back and after him you have you have your swing tackle now in camp Fleming. You have Joe looney. It's you drafted a guy with a third round paved. It's probably going to be wearing a t shirt and sweatpants. Most sundays. I think that look I always like Penn State to me when I think of Penn State players got that edge. I mean, look at Sean Lee and some of the teams of that. You know that have drafted guys kiss from Penn State. I kinda just when I think of football players. I think the big ten, and I think Penn State, but I think this is kind of interesting to me because look I in this is what they said, you know, Jerry, and Jason echo that you can never have too many great too many good defense and offense alive, and that's what they in. And that's what they hung their hat on. And for the first two, you know, the the second and third round picks in the draft. And but I thought it was kind of interesting. I don't know. I think Connor Williams if we look at last year, don't you think that they he was thrown into the wolves because the injuries and everything gets didn't really get the develop. I mean, we we Washington plane. He looked like he was a, you know, physically wasn't ready yet. Yeah. I think there's a lot for Connor Williams. A he was too small. Play guard at the NFL level right away. B? He was coming into a situation where every rookie offensive lineman over the course of the last five years had done really, really, really. Well, you know what I mean? So the bar was set really high. See he was and this isn't the same thing. But people it is a factor. He played football, Texas. And so a lot of Cowboys fans knew him and a lot of Cowboys expected a lot of him, and he was on record about how much he idolize tyrant Smith. And then he got to play next attire. And so I think and the thing is that pick they used on him as opposed to sending the Seattle Earl Thomas, so there was this dude, you better be awesome. Because we could've had Thomas at that. There was a lot of expectation on him. And I think the people built that up in their minds and he played like a rookie. I mean, it shows what Travis Federick Martin did is very very very rare. But he played like a rookie. And that was really unfortunate. I don't know if you saw the photos from their fishing ship over the weekend some guys went out there, but he he'd beefed up. And so he. Looks ready to play. Finally, thanks to year. He probably was probably that wedding. Probably had a bunch a steak or whatever. I saw the picture. I think they should probably should fire the guide because I the one big fish on that on that boat was. Under saying, I mean, I just I saw Travis Frederick pit little snapper shark. Zeke didn't have anything. So did catch. I didn't. Yeah. I didn't it was that a show. I mean, I don't even know what type of Fisher was. But this is coming from the guy knows nothing about fishing, but I just going by size but back to honor McGovern. Look, I think that I think Penn State and you look at different emission about Texas. It's all about hey, look inside, especially with some of these, you know, the interior part of the line. If you're not I think one year in the NFL specially, and I think that was that really it's going to be good for congress because he had experienced grill to the see what it was like the play interior apart line. And what kinda give mating look himselves? They look this. What I gotta do to be you know, to be a mainstay a National Football League. You'll use y'all season built my foundation getting away room around some of these high prize pro football, you know, the pro bowlers, you know, that offense in line take him in your take him unarmed. Say look this is how we did work together year. I think that that adds fall. I think he'll be fine but Khanna McGovern again a guy that can play guard center in maybe Loy Collins. I dunno xactly what's going to happen him in a future. But, you know, right now, Kana Williams and thank notion. They're gonna put him out of tackle. I would say right now. I don't I don't really like that. I think it's happening. I mean Lyles probably gonna wanna get paid the Osset. It's pretty easy to discern that he his situation entering the NFL is very well documented and how he missed out on a standard first round rookie contract horrible store. Right. And so I mean, it makes sense that the guy would be trying to make up from a financial perspective for everything he made. Stat on. But so I think it's it's a safe bet to say he leaves? But you're right. Anything can happen. I will say the other thing other detail about the McGovern pick is we're talking about an offensive line that while. Yes, when healthy is the best in the NFL was not healthy last year. Obviously miss Travis Frederick for the entire season. Tyron Smith missed his usual Cup of tea and for the first time ever Zack Martin Mr. game. And so maybe the Cobb was just saying, you know, what we like the fact that the offense of line is awesome. And we want to keep it that way. And we understand that these dudes, you know, they're a little bit older. Now, they've got a lot more wear and tear on their bodies. Things might be breaking down a little bit from week to week. So we want to be prepared because if not for finding your sue AFI low just off a whim last season, they would have been screwed after Connor Williams got her. And so because they found exhibits to a feeler they survived. Maybe they're thinking. Okay. We don't wanna be that desperate again after gofundme area. So that's why I gave it a b minus e plus sort. A great. Yeah. I again, I really like that they didn't get into this mall where you know, they got romance. And there's a sexier player out there that play you know, other teams wanted I dislike what they stuck to their guns. And this is what we need. If this guy's the the ninetieth pick Connor McGovern is the highest player on board. We're gonna pick him. And I so that's really I like that. I think we're seeing a little bit more that. And you know, it helps to already have your first round your first round pick because of the trade last year. But I do like it. I do like the first pictures that they too they they targeted the targeted defensive lineman offense lineman. And even if the there was someone that may be someone gave you a higher grade and rated him heart. Like, look we're gonna pass this is what we want. This is what we think and really help our team right away. And we're gonna stick to our guns. I like it. The pick. That was confusing was the Tony Pollard pick in the fourth round running back at a Memphis dynamic player, but not a real true runner. Not a real true running back. I mean, he's more of a weapon useful on returning slot. He's he's kind of a dull threat, and I when I when I saw this pick. I thought you know, they've tried this with Lance Dunbar. They try to with Ryan Switzer year ago after the draft traded for Taylor. And we were saying they were gonna try to take on. I don't know this one I'd give just a flat seat because it's confusing and mostly because this pick depends on Kellen Moore and his level of creativity. He's creative enough. This can be a great pick. But if he's not it's just going to be a waste. It's hard to really get excited about really give them higher grades. Because look with the Cowboys on the roster your at in depth at the position. They added Zeke Elliott's former teammate Mike Weber. And they also, you know, as you just mentioned telling Paul art, they polar they added him. So I think that this ad in death and trying to find someone to compete for backup position. But again, I think all the all these different draft picks, they have really good debt. And again, I mean out these picks. I I don't know which guy's gonna be able to make a contribution is going gonna make the team because the Cowboys have some really good debt than I think really what they did in the offseason really made him feel confident what they haven't undertaken going into twenty nineteen you mentioned the Mike Weber pick. Obviously, you know, a later selection for the Cowboys took him in the seventh around those two runners Weber has the potential to be a true compliment Zeke a true Rb to so to speak and Pollard while drafted three rounds higher than him. I mean is more of a specialty guy. It is cool that Weber was the exte- made at Ohio State, and whatever. But do you think Kelly Moore's creative enough to use Tony Pollard? I mean, do you really trust that? I don't know. What do we have to judge Kelley more? I mean, we really know. I mean, I think it's a good at something to consider considering the guy when he was a Memphis was more. He could do a lot of different things. I think that you you know, how many times when they when they moved Zeki Elliott Audi the backfield lineup and slot. It makes the defense start thinking all of a sudden all these Blinken lies star Cohen on like, okay? So. The fact that maybe that's an option. Maybe they can kinda find out what he can do. And she how fits in is a backup or someone can contribute. Now. I had no problem with having a three headed monster just to give, you know, seek some, you know, some some brassed, but also, you know, fawn when these kids that actually can do a lot of things out is running back. Because again, I think that puts a lot more pressure on defense. And also, I think the most important thing it makes you think a lot more. I agree. I mean, so I'm gonna agree that Tony Pollard pick a ac-, and honestly, the Mike Weber pick to and again, I know we're gonna little out of order. But I mean, they both runners I just getting them sees because they're later around draft picks. And we really don't know what they're going to be over the course of their careers. Yeah. I think I agree with you one hundred percent because again, you know, this is all speculation running backs that have different different straits and different weaknesses. So this. See what they were able to actually do make is a contribution. And you know, give them depth at that position. So while a bit confused on these picks. I mean, again, they go is killing more goes. But so Tony Pollard was the pick. And then they traded back twice traded with Cincinnati Bengals and traded back with the Oakland Raiders now, it's important dimension. That that I trade back with the Bengals one hundred thirty six overall pick that was their compensatory pick that they got from Anthony Hitchens going to Kansas City Chiefs. So it kind of got three players alternately out of just Anthony Hitchens going to Kansas City, but their next pick. Tony inspired a lot of puns and a lot of jokes a cornerback at a Miami. Michael jackson. Chris Rashard finally got on the board. Wonder why the one I got a lot of criticism and a lot of jokes. They may because as Michael Jackson. I don't know look again, this is all speculation. I mean, it's hard to get really excited about what the Cowboys didn't draft. I once you get past the second and third round. And you sprinkle some of these these other guys in here. Maybe there's some, you know, I think it's whatever team how they how they view them and how they rate them. And ultimately, what they're, you know, after all the different interviews familiar familiarity with them and everything. But again, hey, you know, I think the secondary one of their strongness strongest parts of their defense with that, you know, I guess you can't include the safety position. But some of the other guys I think they feel comfortable with. And so I think they're gonna kinda let this ride through. And you never know you think Michael Jackson might be you know, a pleasant surprise. Well, so they double dipped not only. On Jackson's but on Jackson's out of Miami. What their next pick? They took Michael teammate fellow hurricane. Joe jackson. Defensive end. So you get back to back hurricanes corner. Michael defensive end Joe both Jackson's I had a tweet that was really proud of. Because those are the two fifth round picks. I said the Cowboys fifth round might as well be known as the Jackson too. That's good. I like it. From here for Saddam. These these are just roll players. I mean, I think there's hope that Michael Jackson will be something special. There's hope that Joe Jax will be sending special. Joe Jackson did play against Duke his cleaner Korean day play against Daniel. Jones new giants quarterback and made life a little bit difficult for him. But yeah, I mean, these these picks think you just from grade perspective, I think they're CC pluses just because this is the part of the NFL draft is tough. Yeah. I think if you again, not to keep beating his horse, the dead horses is that the when you get down the bottom half of the draft picks and use like, okay? Well, here's a guy that maybe, you know, the rating and how you know, how the workouts when everything else you may be something where he may may have graded out better. If he had done this or you know, ran a better time. And so I think that's kind of what you're hoping forward to be a surprise. And also the. Send a message everyone else. It's always when you bring a rookie in those days are going to be competing. So you get you know, some of these veteran guys aren't being paid the big money or just, you know, you feel it inferior to bring in some welcome end. So without a doubt, just two different guys come in and compete and add to the roster is going to OTA's or as you go into trying to count last two pigs because we did already touch on the Mike Weber selection. Donovan Wilson, you mentioned they finally took a safety in the sixth round out of Texas. Am and Jalen jokes defensive end out of Oregon. And I mean, you know, again, these these are just you're hoping you're throwing crap at a wall, you're hoping to find somebody special as you mentioned you've got guys in the NFL that we're picks all over undrafted free agents and whatnot. I think you know, I think the person I'd wrote a winners and losers article bog on the boys dot com. I think the biggest loser from the out of all of this. Besides Chris Rashard because he didn't get his brand new safety. I think it could be taco then you can make a case. I mean, I'm not saying that either Joe Jackson are Jalen Chuck's, by the way, the two defensive ends drafted both of them their first and last name star the letter j so that's really confusing, but you bring in to defensive aunts, and there's no guaranteed that either of them even make the roster. But I mean, all of a sudden that defensive end room is pretty crowded, and it's already tougher to get on the field because you have DaMarcus and Robert Quinn. I don't know overall. I think the pick. I'm most excited about Kristen hill. I mean because that's the do that's supposed to be the most special. Well, if I had to pick one player that may be an impact right away. And again, I don't I don't know. I can't look at crystal ball and see how adapts mean look, you're lining up against guys. Like Zack Martin, you know, Travis Frederick, you're looking you're lined up against the pro Pro Bowl players. And so you're right away. You're gonna get measured and you're going to be evaluated right away. And welcome to the National Football League. So it'll be interesting to see that dynamic because again if you can have a cornerstone defensive tackle. Me Collins was was injured last year. And so I think if you add depth to that position, I know time on Crawford is making a lot of money this up, you know, this upcoming year. So you really need to be able to have some type of rotation. But I think that's probably most of the more the most triggering I will say the kid from Morgan may be a long shot. Just by what he did at Oregon. He's a long player yet. Fifteen and a half sacks. While he was at Oregon. So right there for two hundred forty first pick. Yeah. Sorry for me to sit here. But it's a long shot already added that that that position. I don't know. But I'm just gonna I'm gonna put a, you know, I'm gonna I'm gonna think that maybe this may be a long shot maybe guide to keep your eye out on just because it's physicality, I've got some bad news for you. When it comes to Jalen jokes. Again, we're totally offensive with how the seven five hours put together and while we were recording. Tony we'll all do. I mean, we're doing this live, and I will according to other people the Cowboys website announced the jersey numbers for the two thousand nine hundred rookie draft class and tristen hills wearing seventy nine which is kind of gross if I'm being honest. It's not a good look number. I don't like that number. Yeah. I know you gotta have a sleep number there. I'm actually not a fan of any of these numbers. I'll get to them in a second. But your boy Jalen jokes, given jersey number seventy four which is kind of a kiss a death. If you're. Cowboys rookie because they are not planning on letting you where seventy four in the regular season because that was Mr. Cowboys number Bob Lilly blower door Armstrong was given seventy four last year and manage to to fight through the roster then he had to change, obviously. Because they're not letting them more seventy four and to be fair. There's like no numbers of liberal in the nineties. Right. Well, you know, maybe they should just give them like a. One and one eight different different numbers. I mean, why would you even give you know? That's a sacred sacred jersey number and Bob low it and give it to them for like the preseason or anything you can't touch that. That's just you know, that's in the ball of greatness. You know, what I find interesting since you say that they do give it out for rookie mini camps and for training camp and preseason, but they will not for the same purposes. Give out twelve or twenty two are now eight although obviously they gave eight and kind of worked out, but my point is they will not and I forgot eight they won't even give out eight you will never ever see a rookie quarterback wearing eight or twelve although I do like seventy nine that was Eric Williams, and he was a bad ass. But it looks awesome on the offensive line. It doesn't look awesome. In the middle of a defense. These are the full numbers tristen hill seventy nine gross Khanna McGovern sixty six which was just Penn State number. So I guess whatever Tony polar running backs they gotta be sleep. Sexy numbers thirty six come on. Let's Michael Jackson thirty three another sacred number. But they've let that number be worn a lot. She wore that recently before Michael Jackson getting number five number five Jackson Five. It's a good point Gioja. Joe Jackson has a five. He's fifty six and I don't like I'd rushers in the fifties. Donovan Wilson, the safety at thirty seven actually don't mind that reminds me your boy, James Washington safety. You're thirty seven. That's okay with dry Mike Weber the runner out of Ohio State, wearing number forty forty on off on running back. Excuse me. That's disgusting. I dunno. I like forty. I don't have a problem with that sin about thirty six. I think it needs to be lower in the numbers for some reason I can twenties or he's right around early thirties. But I always think of a running back in twenties. Yeah. Like, there's not there's not enough on the go round. But that's kind of way I look at quarter excuse me running back. He needs to be like twenty three twenty eight like something like that. Right. But whatever so Jalen jokes, not not looking strong already with the before before we close the session. I'm talking about numbers. I remember when I was a rookie. I was number ninety two it Oklahoma. And I'm gonna ninety two when I went to the falcons, and they wouldn't give it to me when you can't wear number ninety two and said, why not you just can't. And they were a holes about it. So that's that's one. Well, what's the next best thing? Stephanie five how long so that's how I got seventy five because a warrant. Because how long really how absolutely wow, two things one screw ill in like the second overall pick. And choose what I say. But this is the way they were organised and like I mean ninety two I mean, I don't think no one had number ninety two. Well, this is not a veteran had and they just wouldn't take it from him. It was like. Yeah. It's like, okay. Well, it doesn't doesn't fit that defensive tackle anchorman. You know, the numbers that you use them like really, it's ninety two. But anyway, that's the reason I would've wore ninety two all through my career. But unfortunately, it started with the with the falcons, and I said now, I don't think so I'm going to be happy about that. I'm going to be honest with you. I don't like how long because I went to a bears game Cowboys bears game a long time ago and my dad and I were walking out and we saw him there because he was watching his son Kyle place for the bears. And I was just walking we're walking out and to be fair the Cowboys, it just kicked the s but and I think it was Kyle's birthday. So he was like in town for son's birthday. And so I just walked up, and I was like, hey, Mr. law. I was really nice could I get a photo with the euro quick. And he was like sure, you know, make it quick. And I was a cool. And I just I opened the pocket on my jacket get my phone out. And he literally said that's not quick. And I thought he was joking. I really I thought it had been like an instant he was like that's not quick. Instant I lost respect for how long that's not seem like how we again, it was his son's birthday. So I'm trying to give him a pass, and maybe is bad because they got their ass kicked. Yeah. So, but you helped her demon telling me that you start at seventy five because that's the only reason why we're we're number seventy five. If that would not sound cool. Glad thought, you know, twenty something years later that it would have changed the whole complexion of the seven five. Oh, so shout out to how long are name sick. Wow. That's interesting. It's a fun. Seven five fact. Right on well, Jalen jokes. Hopefully one day. We'll be able to be on the seven four zero. But something interesting because be one. Won't be one of the seven four. We'll be back later in the week overall draft. Great time for good out here. See I c plus just because I've been a little generous. That's that's fair. I think that's fair. And we're saying see I wanna speak for you. But not like, oh, they suck. Because I think people see the letter see and feel badly. But it's just it's average average. Well, let's take this in concert consideration and have a first round pick. So if we factor in a Mark Cooper, I've definitely give them a b plus totally fair point. Good perspective. I've ago we will be back. This was the seven five. Oh. My name is Spencer home by name is Jason Kurt. My name is Ryan nanny combined. We form the shutdown full stride. Keep telling you this forecast is technically a college football podcast. But it's also a show about care disaster regional grocery stores. We love Tennessee Batman, homeowners associations bears in video games. Pittsburgh. Batman the hell of being drafted a group. Text unreliable legal advice. 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REShow: Bruce Arians and Giancarlo Esposito. Hour 3 (07-25-19)

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CINEMAX jet first season of jet in airs Friday ten PM Eastern on Cinemax and it appears to be as I told him <hes> <hes> backstage and I'll tell you he appears to play another well-adjusted individual. Wow very good with a golf club. Yes look these are the three words that <hes> I love love to hear in front of any character that he plays described powerful crime Lord. We've seen another one of them right obviously from better call solemn breaking bad and <hes> this is a great stuff <hes> he's also oh <hes> <hes> the narrator in dear white people which is on net flicks on Friday August the second is when you can start streaming that on that service <hes> eight four four two zero four rich is the number to dial in our number one. We had Jane slater from the N._F._l.. Network <hes> on our show <hes> she is locked in with the cowboys she covers the cowboys primarily for the N._F._l.. Network and when she was on an hour number one she told us that the eighteen playing for the Dallas cowboys coming out here to Oxnard California to start training camp for all Veterans Tomorrow Today Being Report Day. Tomorrow is really the report day. Tomorrow's the first practice as well tomorrow A._M.. Is the deadline <hes>. She said that the plane in her estimation was taking off right now during the commercial break Jane tweeted out the following you ready for this Chris Brockman where we got my sources. Tell me that despite a seat assignment on today's flight to Los Angeles with less than ten minutes before takeoff Ezekiel Elliott is not on the plane players in the past have met the team in Oxnard. He has until tomorrow to do so. I don't know about that. I don't know might make an interesting boy. That would be something that would be something. What a way to start? Training camp is if Ezekiel Elliott doesn't show up. He's got his fifth year option picked up for next year. He's got his fourth year or he set up. And of course there's a franchise tag beyond that the the cowboys technically have two years of contractual control remaining on Zeke after this here so there's that we got <hes> Mike Weber got Tony Power Dare was Jackson. That's the point that's his love Yordan Shun the way you are you are you are naming people who are running backs. Mike Weber another Guy Yup. Yeah those are the cowboys running backs on the road there you go. That's the leverage for you right there after after Zeke. There's <hes> there's there's is it a little bit of a drop off a little bit of a drop off. Wow so we'll keep an eye on all that for the Dallas Cowboys joining us here back on the rich Eisen show <hes> get set for apartment my my bad. That's not him my bad <hes> I thought that was him. Bruce Arians of the Tampa Bay buccaneers is gonNA be joining us. Let's take the phone phone call for sure at the top <hes> Michael and Arkansas. Let's take you here on the rich Eisen. Show it's up Michael. Hey Rich. How's it going? The clock is ticking ready. Get Down for some football. Okay what's going on Michael. Hey listen <hes> we talked to a couple of years back back. When Hayley was around and I said you know we need to get rid of them and <hes> I didn't the year after that? I kind of said that there's something going on in the locker room. I'm hoping thing that after we got rid of Brown and Bell that I was really hoping that locker room was going to really be working together but I still think there is a problem last and that is Mike Tomlin. I I honestly think we've got to get rid of Mike Tomlin and the man we should have gotten years ago is coming up on your shot. Oh I know obviously Arians <hes> was this as the story goes and he has confirmed and he's told many times he was driving <hes> leaving the the you know Pittsburgh steelers where they said that he was retiring and got a call all from the <hes> the colts to join their staff and his wife <hes>. I think Kinda cursed at him. Don't answer the phone and he did I. I'm hoping I mean. I don't know if you actually can call from heels look. Are you know maybe next year. I tell gone after this year. I think you're and just put it out there right now so next year you let it be known I put my finger on Tomlin gone on variance. Come get some. We get some steelers Michael. Thanks the call Michael's one of the members of the steelers nation. I addressed during your your news update Chris to essentially say you know hey. What's your problem? I think Tomlin is the perfect perfect coach for this team <hes> and you know I I understand that they have not performed well. Last year was nuts. Could you imagine coaching that team last year. Could you mel no way we have no idea the extent extent of what was going on no way and then week seventeen whatever the hell happened with Antonio Brown I mean you gotta give it a pass last year and he almost did one ten games anyway and the defense. The one thing that obviously is tough to bring up is the football aspect of Ryan shazier injuring okay because it was such a catastrophic injury. Three although not a a fatal injury thank God and we all see that Ryan Shazier is making his way back to being <hes> an ambulatory individual so talking about the football aspect of his injury losing him in the middle of that defense absolutely changed their ability to cover ability to run people down he was so fast from the middle of that defense so crucial to stopping the run so crucial to allowing the rest of the team to cover the people that they're supposed to cover because he covered so much ground and covered up for a lot of other issues all of that together in a way hamstrung that team defensively. I think say what you want. I think my Guy Devin Bush coming in from Michigan is going to be the guy that they've been seeking. That's why they traded up ten spots to go get him. That's why they did that. It's a significant football injury clearly so let's just put this aw obviously not just on Tom. Look Mike Tomlin. Is We all know in that locker room. We heard that there are a lot of guys who thought he didn't handle Antonio Brown the right way. I still think he's an excellent head coach. I don't know I think this year. The steelers are going to be a very good team. I think they're going to be a team to be reckoned with. I do think they can win the A._F._C. North as you know. I'm very high on the Ravens. Yes you are so I'm bullish on the Ravens. I think that it's third division to lose. I like Lamar Jackson. I like the way that the coach coaches as well there. I would love to know how other people think that he should have handled Antonio Brown. We don't even know how it went down. I mean another aspect is like it's not much got leaked out but it couldn't have been easy while while you're also dealing with nonstop issues at one point split the locker room levy on bell knock coming in where other guys were talking about another player's money which is not easy to do whatsoever and it's not welcomed in the N._F._l.. Eight four four four to a full rich is the number to dial here on the show. Giancarlo ESPOSITO will be joining us here shortly on the program. He's in our green room right now. Bruce Arians is coming out of a meeting. I'm being told catch so if we can get if we can get him on the show before Giancarlo will do that otherwise we'll just. I have him on another day. He's one of our favorites to capital one poll question. We've got two of them right now. Capital on his reimagined banking by offering savings and checking accounts with no fees or minimums in one of the nation's best savings rates capital one approval required N._A.. Member F._D._I._C. see what's in your Wallet Chris. What do you have over there? Okay so we have the best sports comedy movie Major League Weeds Away Forty two percent caddyshack forty percent slapshot ten percent boulder made percents okay and did you put up the other data when I had no choice because we kept on right getting so many people saying what about waterboy what about water I mean there's too happy Gilmore that we came up with. This is the four you don't like it. Gives is a call make your case you do believe Bull Durham actually sports movie. You're just you're just trolling on me because I say rockies. Not a sports movie bulldogs my one of my favorite sports movies. Is that right yes. I've seen that somebody I mean it's must watch before each baseball season. It just kind of get to go and get in the right frame of mind is it but there is a love story I have there. Is that look I told you the best sports movies are either love story between men and women or love story between Father-son at like that's eight four four two zero four rich number to dial. He is one of our favorite guests. He is back at it as a head coach in the national football league kind enough to call us when he did come out of retirement <hes> <hes> he is Bruce Arians. How are you coach great rich? How're you doing? I'm doing great. What's it like? How's it feel? Is this what you want yeah man. It feels fantastic. I actually worked out. I was a little late for you because I was actually getting worked out. What are you doing? What was it what's going talk about a lot of core stuff and getting getting my from those operations getting core back so much I hit my driver ten years further and I love it? Look good one. That's a good I I guess to be. We <hes> a little bit serious right here. I know that when you came in Studio <hes> a couple of years ago you said when you were coaching last time for the cardinals that new US sometimes feared for your life sometimes that you're getting into it and so it's very important for you to pay attention itching to get in shape I I imagine right. There's no doubt that was when I lost twenty three pounds of Spring and <hes> I can feel the difference already. I'm trying to lose some more before the first game but they're just trying to get some strength too because it is a grind and and <hes> I know what to expect and I think I've learned to delegate but I'm not sure I guess as well. Just you know being in the heat of of the moment of everything but in terms of again just getting back into it and whatever you missed when you're in the C._B._S.. Yes booth you are you're getting that scratched is what you're saying. Yeah I mean I wasn't you know there was a couple of years. It's like oh my gosh. We gotta go to camp. I'm not ready then this year. I'm going early boy said what I'm leaving. I'm leaving Thursday. I'M GONNA I'm getting ready and waking up every day couldn't wait to get here. See the guys and <hes> yeah it's been it's been great all right. Let's get right into it <hes> because obviously <hes> what the buccaneers when they drafted Jameis Winston what they were looking for what they were hoping for on occasion has been realized but on the whole has yet to be realized and everybody <hes> in in our business sees what you've been about what you've done with quarterbacks and think you are the perfect match for him. What has your relationship with him so far coach? Oh it's been fantastic fantastic. I mean I've known him. He actually came to our football camp. <hes> when Jake football campaigning I think he was twelve or thirteen and I let him put on a super bowl ring and when you're doing those camps you never know what you got. You'RE GONNA touch and it gave him a dream green and <hes> we talk about it all the time and it's been a great relationship you could if anything I'd ask them. quit working so hard I mean he's his workout is ridiculous and <hes> enjoy some time down and but he's he's he's everything you could ask for coach <hes> as far as a pupil in quarterback. So what do you think you can bring out of him. What we did put a better team around him? You know we we've got to put a running game around him. We've got unbelievable receivers as probably the best situation I've ever stepped in to receiver wise tight end wise but we've got a running game around him and a better defense <hes> better kicking game <hes> and I think those things all help him play quarterback rather than try be superman and win every game make crazy throws because he thinks he has to well what about the off the field stuff about heads being screwed on right and the number of times that he's asked her second chances and it appears that he keeps receiving them but my i. I think when Neil Young guys make mistakes and he's made his <hes> I've been around a couple of guys that did but they overcome and they grew up and I think right now he's in great place. You got a young child and beautiful fiancee and <hes> I think he's telling me he's in a great place. Bruce Arians Tampa Bay Bucks head coach here on the rich Eisen. Show your expectation level for the season would be what playoff you know you gotta get tournament to win the Super Bowl and <hes> nothing else will be nothing else would be acceptable optimal. I think <hes> if you go into seasons trying to just get better <hes> that's not me you know we're we're here to win and win now so <hes> we're tough division but you gotta get you gotTa get into the playoffs to to get to the super agreable and in terms of that running game you're talking about. How is that shaping up? How do you expect to divvy up carries and and <hes> a nice Nice Battle of Peyton Barbara who I really like you know he's a he's a downhill bumper like that kinda back <hes> and then Ronald Jones who struggled as a rookie was immature and had a great spring? We got Andre Ellington healthy from Arizona the other guys I think be good really good role players so I think we're GONNA be fine. You've got a good competition going to right. Guard and other for starters are back so <hes> yeah. I think that part of it it's a mindset you gotta you gotta run the ball and be able to run it. When you want to run it so we've we've talked a lot about that here? Then <hes> Todd Bowles being the coordinator of your defense somebody who you know very well and and you made sure you got him on there was a lot of conversation as to whether you were getting him in the nod and then you got him he is your guy. What is he telling you about the defensive side of the ball? What are you seeing right now? We have speed. We have a lot of speed <hes> obviously we're GonNa Miss J._p.. For a while but I love the speed we have on defense especially the kids that we added in the draft very very much sure rookie class <hes> they've been here for three days Asian they retained well from the spring <hes> again a lot of speed and with Tampa Bay you think of four man front Tampa Tampa two defense. We're not that so it's a huge change here. A culturally defensively Bruce Arians few more minutes left with him buccaneers head coach on the day the Veterans Report here on the rich Eisen show pass interference now reviewable. You've <hes> you've now been on both sides of it as a coach and broadcaster with a truck that provides coaches. She's with the ability to review something <hes>. Do you like the idea where you for it. Yeah I was I was <hes> I think they're still trying earn up that last two minutes. Everybody's concern with the speed of the game. But how about just getting right right. I think that's really what we're after getting it right and <hes> they never going to get everybody to agree on what is passing French on what is and so let's get as good as we can. Well I mean in terms of that though coach I mean what about the idea that you're challenge Heathrow flagged for to see if your if your receiver got interfered with and it comes back actually or the your receivers the one who did the interfering now you you just threw a challenge flag and now you've got a yellow flag on the field for you. I mean I did something uh-huh hired a former one of the best side judges ever Larry Rose a former official and he's GonNa be in the press box telling me what what is what is in a thou- so instead of teaching coach I went and got one of the retired it officials who good super bowls and that's part of that large coaching staff that we had okay so you're not the only one coming out of retirement on this on this okay so so so. How does that work like I it's going to something happens and you're GonNa wait to hear him in your in your in your headset? Throw the flag or not. Is that basically what you and <hes> you know I have. I have a reputation of talking to the fish was a lot and and so he'll let me know if I'm from actually right then. I can really talk loud okay if I'm wrong. I'll just keep talking no kidding well. I mean so you're just gonNA leave it up to an actual former referee to to make that decision on your part when it's time to film together and he's he's <hes> he's here a camp with us and <hes> teaching our guys <hes> the rules interpretations and <hes> that they changed so much. I can't keep up now. I know <hes> hey coach. I appreciate you jumping out <hes> of <hes> getting ready for the season of throw to hear that you're you're during your in good shape and good spirits and ready to roll your you know you're one of the you're one of the best and you're one of the best at it and you're i. It's the league's better off for having you in your position. That's for sure I appreciate that appreciate brother. That is an absolute fact you take care. Let's chat again soon. You GotTa Rip Bruce Arians Buccaneers head coach. How about that? That's a I we I had heard about it and he's the first mix I you know what it's so difficult to figure it out. I'm I'm getting one of the best side judges ever and so the side judge will be up in the I've told Mariucci this that if he ever dares to leave the N._F._l.. Network and go back to coaching. I want to be in charge of how he sets up his replay process. I will do that for him. I mean I wouldn't be the guy in the booth but that's crucial. It really is a huge part of the game all right good to see you Giancarlo Esposito over there on our calloway corner. How are you sir? I'm doing great. Thank you believe you are the first sports jacket buttoned up individual digital to be putting on our calloway corner you are you gotta go and style baby yet on Cinemax we get to talk about this and then the man who was nominated for an Emmy Award for his great work on better call Saul aw Giancarlo Esposito live next on the rich Eisen show. Everybody's got A to do list drop off the dry cleaning pick-up some milk. Here's an idea let's add save hundreds of dollars on car insurance to that list and the good thing is you don't have to drop off or pick up up anything. All you have to do is go to GEICO DOT COM and in fifteen minutes you could be saving fifteen percent or more on car insurance extra money in your pocket of course this may be the most rewarding to do you do today. Welcome back to the richeisenshow not only to our listeners viewers to one of our favorite guests who I've been a big fan of for quite some time loved him and breaking bad currently and better call salsa what she's been nominated for an Emmy Maze runner fans love this guy as well and I could go on on and on about <hes> your filmography but I wanNA talk about also jet on cinemax titled Character Played by Carly Good Gino however she gets mixed up with the man to my right. The man who plays <hes> Charlie Baudelaire in this great show on cinemax Friday nights attend good to see you Giancarlo great to see a rich great to be back to see you sir <hes> so let's let's just real briefly talk about <hes> our team <hes> which is not just epochs which will take that to you in a second but the New York Yankees who who again you grew up on this team correct I sure did right around the corner correct right around the corner and and and it just seems to me that this team is just <hes>. It's been red hot lately so red hot all these young guys on the team. All of our starters Carter had just went down with injuries here there and everywhere including your namesake. John Carlos hurt me. That hurt me hurt me hurt me almost as much as him absolutely absolutely. He's out for a while isn't he. He's I how many at bats is he had this. You're like ten gigabytes been. US I don't know when he's coming back. What a shame but the young bucks have stepped up and really pull this team out right <hes> they've come together and in a really rejuvenated fashion and they've had some pretty long games that they've had? I know it's in the five hour one. I you know I it was so crazy <hes> this week how many how many thirty eight plate appearances that's crazy thirty and they're they're they've got <hes>. Let me get this accurate. <hes> they have <hes> an eleven game lead on the red sox walks going into a four game series doing quite phenomenal fenway park and that to me like you know and and Mariano Rivera good went into the hall of fame as the first unanimously selected play unbelievable. I mean you figure that history had been made right but that's a hard one to get into. Hall of fame isn't Aww you try try try again. I know <hes> but he's a classy guy with an incredible record that may not be surpassed six hundred fifty two saves now. I have to ask you something desert. Did he start as a starter he did. He did so my childhood memory of that this is correct. Yes yes yes yes started in ninety five and as a starter and you know when he got unanimously selected did the hall of fame on his first shot last earlier this year we had Joe Torry on the show because you know we try to go straight up the flow chart best we can go right to the top and he started talking about how early in ninety six when he first got the job that they he didn't know what they had in Mariano and also nervous about their new rookie shortstop named Derek jeter being able to handle the GIG every single day as a rookie so they almost traded Rivera to Seattle for shortstop Felix for mean and I almost just broke into a cold sweat over that being anywhere near remotely possible Oh my goodness yeah and we imagined and we had David Cone on <hes> the other day talking about Rivera and he said that Rivera's a difference too between him having one world series ring and four wow great credit. I mean he's just the all time best. They did the right thing with him. Yes what if they kept him as a starter. What are you have gotten injured? Would he have. Would he have made it the history he's made. I don't think so I don't think so either. I don't don't think so either I mean he put people to sleep on the sand man just did it all the way around right <hes> but what I loved about him was he always carried himself with Grayson APLOMB and he's humble and I love humble people depp and an English as a second language and hear his speech speech was <hes> remarkable remarkable. I know truly it really is a guy who was you. Who is your Yankee growing up? Oh Thurman Munson. I was a catcher when I played little league. Is that right and I love Thurman Munson. I just love the way he played. I loved that he had <hes> he his physicality. He was just a tough egg. I really dug him yeah. I know I remember where I was when <hes> when I learned about his passing and I think about him all the time because we're going to canton Ohio. That's the airport where he passed away away. That's where the hall of Fame Bait football famous while trump so. It's <hes> I think of him every single time I land in Canton Airport. I was so broken up about it. I was too great player great players Giancarlo Esposito here on the rich Eisen show before we get to jet. I am GonNa do my usual geek out with here. Please <hes> better call Saul you shooting at right now. We are right now right now. Okay right now and <hes> obviously you'd have to. You'd have to kill me before you gave me any information but I just I just I just went myself. That actually just happened what we've got a great show and saw we really do our fifth season. The writing keeps getting better and better and better yes Bob Odenkirk <hes> who congratulations to Bob and Jonathan as well who are also known as for this fourth season the fifth season is just coming closer and closer to breaking bad. It gets a little more frightening with every episode we shoot. These guys is a brilliant. I have to say well. It is brilliant too because the the only thing I can. I can equate it to is <hes> seeing just say the movie Miracle Right. I know how it's going to work out for all the characters in the movie miracle. I know that they're going to beat the Russians and win the miracle on ice gold medal eventually but I'm on the edge of my C- absolutely I know what's going to happen your character and every other character but I'm on the edge of my seat and I wanna we know what this journey is all about and how they wound up being the characters that we all fell in love with or downright frightened oven and breaking bad absolutely I'm going backwards as you know what happened to me already going backwards and playing a little bit younger a little more naive more vulnerable. Maybe not so hot headed. Maybe more ruthless maybe a little bit left through rootless and certainly when you have writers who write a show. That's about interaction about human interaction. Yes then you get <hes> you get some really motion and some real connection action going on. We have a wonderful cast and it's great to be there with them. In this new incarnation never imagined <hes> I would be back after playing Gustavo fring in isn't that amazing. Isn't that amazing <hes> do do you know do they know how this all winds up. I mean obviously we know we know. Eventually what breaking bad is about but the connective tissue how the eventual I think somewhere in their office on all those three by five cards they have on the wall and the switch around and say we could do it this way this way or this this way. I think they have a clear indication exactly how it's all going to end before we get to break. Do believe that I do okay I do and you're it's just I can't wait when does this. The one good thing for me is <hes> I'm not going to die. How do you like that baby? Spoiler alert here carrying a handful of of you and your fellow actors and actresses that no that you don't have to keep turning the pages to find that out precisely because you know eventually where I don't want to. I keep saying you know like sport. It's a spoiler alert but we have a a a an artist's rendering of your unfortunate demise. That's behind <hes> are set every single day. I see you every day. I love it. Essentially I love it consciously face every single day all right. Let's talk about jet on on cinemax right now ten P._M.. Eastern every single Friday and the the finale is coming up <hes> in August you play another well-adjusted individual very well in charge of a crime <hes> at a family your crime boss <hes> what what is there something similar that you found. I mean what what what attracts you to roll like like this one. I really just wanted to play with Carla Gino Keno and Sebastian Gutierrez the director of the peace. They pitched me in a way that was very very different. <hes> because so many creative elements go into making a television show and this one has the Nawar element of it. I wanted to play this guy hi as slightly over the hill climb boss. Everyone sees it he does not he still thinks he's in control and you mentioned something family crime family <hes> there's a twist in this particular show Charlie has a son who is a wildcard card <hes> and being so you can never trust the Guy <hes> and so we in this family Charlie underestimates the power of his son and his son's intentions and I think intention is everything and when you start to when you. Live your life. You have good intentions. Good things come back. Charlie has intentions to make money and to go out of this crime family eventually but he never gets there never gets there never gets through and <hes> and season one is wrapping up coming up <hes> in the early parts of August Friday August night so you can get in while the getting's good watching it every single week or just check things out on demand ten PM Eastern <hes> Friday nights on cinemax dear white people on Netflix Friday August second. You are in the narrator of this. Can you tell people what this is. All about. The show is an interesting show just and Simeon who wrote the show wrote about an experience of black a black university at which is a place where we get to investigate black black and white relationships and I started as a narrator and they love what I did and they asked me to come back and be on camera but it's a world that we don't see very much of it is done in a very comedic way. It's a funny show interesting and you should watch watching volume three coming out on Netflix again August the second and godfather of Harlem. This looks awesome. ooh I mean you're playing Adam. Clayton Powell junior and this is on epochs premiering on September twenty-ninth the cast includes Forest Whittaker Vincent Off Real Paul Sorvino just to name a few and you sir I love playing historical characters. I dove in deep for this one to learn more about Adam Clayton Powell and all of the great things he did <hes> in his record as a congressman as a the preacher ministered Amazonian Baptist Church as <hes> womanizer drinker rabble rouser this but someone who really cared about the people eight hundred fifty two bills he passed in Congress and wrote himself including National Dama the arts <hes> minimum wage act but when I get into a character that that I feel like I have to play a character whose historical I channel and so I listened to his speeches. This show is truly terrific. <hes> written by Chris Brown Kado and Paul Eckstein <hes> and forest whitaker is amazing in playing bumpy Johnson and who is another historical character tried to wrestle away the prostitution and the drug trade from the mob in Harlem in the sixties so I'll ask you this question since again you you're. You're playing so many different types of characters. What do you like to do the most what character yeah I gotTa Tell You I love the bad guy? I love the bad guy. This is now Adam. Clayton Powell is a good guy. He's fun right and that's going to change the audience's view of who I am sure <hes> because I have a ball playing this character he's intelligent eligible. He's smart. He's fun and gets the GAL that works and so out of all because again and better call Saul you have the <hes> gift <hes> not only being great at what you do but then to play a character at a different point in the character's life after you thought maybe never played the character again. Is there another character from your filmography that you'd love to take that crack at Oh my goodness. I can't think of one well yes. There is excuse me revolution. You Know Revolution Russian. I wasn't finished with that show. I really felt like <hes> <hes> Eric Kripke who created that show <hes> and j.j Abrams were really fabulous fabulous vision and Tom Neville was a guy who was a survivor and I had a a lot more to give <hes> so there is there is that character someone said to me the other day. Look you know I feel honored because this nomination has been really wonderful for the Emmy <hes>. I feel like I've already won because I've been nominated for a character I played into <hes> different shows and even realize has it right. You know I D- breaking bad nominated for that and now nominated for better call Saul so I feel honored and I feel like I've already won okay well. You deserve it man. You're so good at it. You are just so good at at what you do and I always appreciate that you stop bye here. Whenever you're promoting I love coming say why okay because I sit negrin room and I watch you okay and I learned and I watch you and I watched you and I learned so much about sports because I travel so much I work so much? I miss things so I get filled in. What's happening right now? I love it by rich. Is I appreciate that I mean by the way I'm available at any time. If you want you know just direct direct okay yeah. I got a couple of elements going yeah all right so now I can you want me to act. Are you offering me a role to act. I think it'd be a new breakthrough for you should I should I open one of my my latest residual. Check and just show him that you got the job yeah okay yeah. That's right. Give us something that you can you stick around for one more segment course okay to get okay. I've just been told you can't he's gotta go. People Okay Okay knows people are saying it's okay all right. Let's take a break real quick just my television only segment. I'm going to what I do is open my residual checks from Sag after live on this show. It would be an honor to have you. Would you mind okay director who is offering me a role which it sounds like you are. I will show you my if you will filmography and that's proof is. Is that an approved for you guys. He's been in stuff. That's fantastic stuff. Okay good so let me just get this right before we go to break when we come back. We're GONNA finish up this show. Giancarlo Esposito will be gone by then but we'll have a television only segment with you. Sir will open up my residual checks. <hes> the first season of jet on cinemax continues on Friday ten PM Eastern time checkout volume three of dear white people on Netflix Friday August the second and then on Epochs Godfather of Harlem premiering September twenty-ninth. I cannot wait to see that and of course you back on the air with whatever you're cooking up right. Now I use that phrase in particular for the next episode and season of Better Call Saul fouquet. Don't go anywhere back with Jim Carlos on the television side and a second. Hey listeners just wanted to take a minute to thank all of my great sponsors and all of you great listeners for supporting this podcast certainly couldn't do this. 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Thomas Wilcher | Leadership from a HOF High School Football Coach

SportsEpreneur Podcast

25:53 min | 1 year ago

Thomas Wilcher | Leadership from a HOF High School Football Coach

"Welcome to the sports e preneurs podcast the podcast sports in entrepreneurship collide a kesslers family production in this episode we chat with one of the top high school football coaches in the country country and we talk leadership growing up and being great. This podcast exists in large part because of calcium content marketing team inside coursing so what does calcium undo many business leaders need help communicating their story. That's what we do content creation and distribution for business leaders. This provides opportunities relationships and a platform for you and your business. Why why don't we do this because it calcium we exist to entrepreneurs create and share amazing content learn more by visiting calcium dot com our guest today is thomas wilshere head football football coach cass tech high school in detroit michigan. Thomas is an n._c._a._a. Division one track and field national champion in the indoor fifty five meter hurdles and a three time all american in track and field for the university of michigan wiltshire was also running back for the michigan wolverines football team from nineteen eighty three to nineteen eighty-six. Thomas is a member of the michigan high school. Football coaches association hall of fame. We'll brings a no nonsense approach to leadership. Just can't help a little bit better after chatting or listening to him talk during this chat. Thomas was driving practice. His schedule is nonstop but we weren't going to let a little audio quality. Get in the way of a great conversation so let's not wait any longer and welcome thomas wilshere. I saw some of the videos ideas you were talking about. <hes> you know which way things are going to go and you were talking about expectations and i loved it because we talk about it at our office salat the we're gonna push you. We're gonna push you to be pushed to be great with high expectations of you. I wouldn't have brought you on our team if i didn't think that you could do something on special now if you can't handle that that's me talk ups and downs me rollercoaster ride but you know that's me talking so we get into the sports world and i think this there's so many parallels to this and talk about someone in your leadership position like yourself who said years of successful on the field on the track and playing football when you talked about about those high expectations like i could see it when you were talking it was on video and he said we have great expectations when you come here and i would imagine agean these players these kids. They know that come in day one <hes>. How are you showcasing that. How are you showing them that. Were having these he's expectations of the student athletes and your high school world. How do i show i show it based upon what happened in the past. What what what happens to kids. You do the right things. If you try to take control of your life they said hey. This is gonna be because that's what i wanna. Push you to be in. I want to also be that personally. Plus more always believe that. There's somebody in there who wants to be the best you may not be best and longest release. You have reached the highest those and you can go to the next level. You can get like we gotta always think about what you're doing can't be all physical has to be a lot of mental preparation. It makes us upset because you cut the remind over that control your body and getting to see all of those got to get your body teaching body how to get teach and your body how to work out teacher potty. Go on cause your body. Don't give out your mind doesn't like as you get older still the year olds of the journey where there's there's a lot there because you're talking about what has happened in the past so it's almost like trust me. You see these guys where they are today. I would imagine that doesn't just apply the football field it could be an individual who's contributing to the community and the society in general <hes> but at the same time you know get it you know you could be an eighth grader coming into high school or you know working your way up high school and you can say okay. Let's look at some of these guys. Is that are playing football because that's what they're thinking right. They're thinking if i'm running back. I'm going to be the next mike weber or receiver talking about guys at whose name or donovan people jones right. These are guys that amish. I'm sure that there want to emulate they wanna become. They want to have those attributes. Is that what you're talking about. Hey hey look at what's out there. Today i mean those are the recent ones obviously there's more but just a couple of names damon web right at ohio state as well and i want to get into that whole thing because you guys are michigan. A couple of players are going to stay. We'll talk about that second. Is that what players the young kids are seeing today where those guys are at they sell them just last. There's going to school right now asking years having kids try out for the n._f._l. Okay every year worked in drafted in hip bill every year for the past seven eight years. I'm eastern was doing nothing so don't you at a school where some on us having great this kid say i'm here. I'm straight. You have to make the school great great date yourself three. The school doesn't make you like school. Bring jewish. You like the one yeah so. It's it's one thing to show him the direction that they have to go. It's another thing to have a leader like you and the rest so your staff and all the people that are around you to help them out there but you can't make them do it. There was that line price in the movie any given sunday with al pacino and it's a great sports move into that kind of thing and you know he's like. I can't make you do it. I can't make you whatever that is that next inch that you gotta go. I can't can't make you go work out at this time in the more. I can't make you be your best this practice on this day when it's hot outside or when you just don't feel like being there you're not feeling good or something bad happened up in that day. You can't make them do it. You can be there to help. Push them in right but they have to want it. Do it and that's what you're talking about. You're talking about the mental side of it and the more and more people that i talked to have made it at elite levels whether it's sports or business or all these other things and they talk about all the smarts all all the physical attributes all that other stuff it is important but if you can't handle that up down roller coaster ride and mostly that down because there's going to be downtimes you're gonna lose. You're not gonna play. Well things going against you if you can pick yourself up and it's like rocky but it sounds cliche but it's true than no to tell you right. So how do you ah the question more is. There's a lot of habit in that. There's a lot of habit in failing and understanding how to overcome that not the habit of failing but the habit of trying the overcome when you know that's going to happen that you can get yourself back off for the next play the next day the next game right what it is you have to you have to believe c._b._s. Oh you have leaving yourself knowing. That looks a lot right now. A lotta young men was people to see them doing things from this. <hes> twitter at all to look quick snapshot of beer was the case or people to praise him but my is that's just take. What did he go into long term. What are you doing every day. How you make this better everything. How are you giving yourself to somebody else to teach you how you supposed to be as a person because the moore's teachers south by yourself okay so you learned that you are struggling with you are and they're built for because she learned out of distributor of build upon war of youth. I just you think that young man today. They have to just really just keep fighting. You gotta fight with your peers. You gotta fight your brothers sisters. You gotta fight how gotta go here and five hundred eighty got getting class. Go by the grace so you got also fight weight room. You gotta fight the field. You gotta fight it. You gotta fight like you gotta you. Gotta keep winning. Battles got a cheap one but you gotta win. The battles got storm memory of how you did it and try to come backpacking mental preparation jimmy better day to help bill building. Everything that you have is only going to have it as long as keep compete with. Just keep telling yourself. You could do better find out how to do that. Don't come back the same way. Come back everything yesterday so it's gonna be a better person like you say is small but i tell my kids right now. Who's all joe. You're not going to get the big picture wants to get to pitch for. All you guys sees the big picture. I just one little thing because it wasn't it was gonna make you don't see the big picture later. You'll get the big fish later but if you want to go straight to the pitcher you never going to get there. 'cause you go to get all these. We should be here. You go get jingle. No it so you're gonna know how to not gonna know what to do with richard so you will go look look right never beat at first local quarter yeah. Will you reference instagram or social media or you reference. It's going to the game going to the event going say right down the street going to the big house right and you can see the plane but you didn't know what was going on behind the scenes kinda kinda no but you didn't see it and i'm not just talking about practice on wednesday. I'm talking about july right. I'm talking about off season type stuff and those things that you can't see because so many kids so many people in general right we all maybe fall traps of this. You see the big thing you see it under the lights but that's just showcasing wall the work. That's been done prior to that and that's what you're talking about but that's all i wanna go back on his. You talk about go in this. Go battle will fight for all of these things what happens and you got a young team. They are doing in those things but they're not winning yet and i say yet because you would believe in them. Say listen. I believe in you son but you're not there yet and i guess that's the thing you're saying. Keep keep showing up and as long as you keep getting a little bit better. Don't worry about going to college just yet keep getting a little bit better eventually. If you keep doing these things if if you follow your lead you will have an opportunity to then win and then when you win win again is that is that playing out. Did you see that where the kid is doing a lot of things right but they're not there yet so they're not winning yet things. The most important thing you know a kid is not there yet but he can probably got you. Gotta go back to what i said. You doesn't learn how to give gives you some other people which allows you to enable other people which allows you and teaches you how to love you learn how to love you learn how to give stolen did start learning how to respect his so teaching kids. How love the house select people how to give give yourself the others start loving opportunities start leaving with to- say star canoe co-starred show you love and you go out. You understand it. You understand that when a coach put his arm around you he's saw look sean carefully coaches sat down and talking to spend those five just wasn't at two minutes thirty seconds with look. You oughta is totally the great tops in. I believe you admitted he showing love was teach the kids today. That's they start start training school. That's started believe awesome so to be into games the most important thing i'll try to fight all the time and i'm trying to do a thousand teach. Did you know i love you. I want your love of which give i want. You got into uh-huh. I wanna teach respect. I love yourself in love people embrace. What you do is show that there's a greater cost. It's just football football. Gives you going to give you something. Once you learn how i didn't give emotional out of respect well. She learned how to believe in what you you love the people who are doing it and make sure your mother. It's just it just a greater outcome. There's a greater i just liked that part of it and that's so i was talking to someone like you and and always i heard that it always goes back. There's more to this story because you've had a lot of experience. You've gone through stuff off right being a coach for so long running track playing football at michigan playing for bo but even before that i think there was a story that you are on. I believe it was the track team and you were. I don't know about we're maybe goofing off and not taking things seriously. Your mom took you off of the track team. So i think this it sounds like your discipline and your desire to do the right thing and have the right people help others do that stems possibly from that and maybe also your physical education teacher back. When you're in school talked to me a little bit about that situation with your mom and your teacher back in the day that was an element your school. I have bag green and my mom understood education that she understood that you know you have to do more if the better and you know and knowing that hey you know sports is not gonna be everything for you and so so if she took me out off. The games told me i could run track. No more till i got my grades up and everything i think i was just straight apple and valuable point and i really do. I never thought about schoolwork. Never thought about graves never thought about sports but at that point i had to think about it. At that point i had <hes> be somebody did not have to be in so i never really thought about it all and how important grades and schoolwork and being a responsible person ahead to be because she made me densify with that at a young age so as feels great and now i have experienced. I had to learn myself about how to better how how to be better academically part of respect what she's supposed to do as a person you know how much hard work work it isn't to be an athlete and that's probably one reason why i hate athletes penalized so much and when they have to go through so much because what athlete gets in trouble they don't just get in trouble. They get penalized barbie. Anybody else get athlete gets in trouble high school. He may get suspended from school but then once the suspension is over. They still oh backing up from the game. Yeah we've seen it play out. I mean you've seen guys get kicked off of teams and they can't be at the university anymore. They can't play in the football program so they got to leave in their stranded right for the next year and they have to sit out is crazy so you had that discipline at a young young age with your mom right and then u._p. Teacher and you move and you move forward to play obviously track. It sounds sounds like you're just you're fast and the football team got to see that and they're like well. You can play some football for a little bit. Let's see what you can do out here with the pads on you do that ended up at michigan football in like i mean they've had a heyday their whole time but you're playing there under legendary football coach. I mean that had it'd be one of the learning experience for year to to learn from him. Learn from boa and be a part of that program obviously instilling tons and you <hes> to bring you to cass tech now but talk a little bit about what was like plane for university of michigan. It was great. It was great but i think that <hes> they experience was more in him. Always trying to extend a hand to me recognize that hey you come from. I know where you're at. I really appreciate you struggling struggle in that time for overcoming appreciates you standing tall with other stinky with thong. I never get him talking talking about that. I've never been talking about in his book about how proud he was of me. He didn't think i'll be that kid. That will make it at the the school. He was shot all the things. I did play two sports. How how work time classroom practice every day he will all he always talked about it. I remember one day. He saw me on the freeway. You pulled over how pulled over we wanna freeway shifting cohan's and talked about it and he are always tell you what you're i'm so proud of him so proud of you you wanna kid. I never thought were making really do what you're supposed to do and you did it all. He always talks about that. That's what they always talks about. He's always amazed about that and it's not and again. It's not about football it just about how you appear somebody to love what you on in somebody's showing you somebody believing you even when you thought they didn't believe in you and that's trying to say and that's what that's the difference maker come in because i never thought about what i did in college. I never even thought about being a champion national champion. I never thought about that never thought about being the starting tailback at michigan all i never thought about that until one day i say i <hes> i mean guys all year round track. I go into it but some of the nationals thought about. I never never thought about that. I said gosh it was so weird to think about stuff like that. You know what i mean. I'll be playing ball and then come out to three weeks now. We're on track me boom. I'm way better go to practice every day. You know go to class. I mean it's it's so much. The athlete has to be a person that they are being personally trying to become. It's unrealistic just unrealistic so i think that people just need needs. Just understand the process in stop saying that you arise because you rise everyday hired in the bar. All the time athlete in college has less time to become three point. Oh student get a regular student who just go to class it all day. Go to study you. Gotta wake up up in the morning. Go workout. Wake up go to class then go back down. Watch film bingo or the practice and you gotta stay up all night and study. You got to continue with cycle. You have less time less our less energy but you still expect to be the same person. That does have what you do. That's one hundred percent. <hes> i mean that's i mean i lived right. I saw i saw what i mean is. I was in school and i got to see what the student athletes were actually having to go through. You throw in travel and do it it. It's i you know how you do it but you make a good point and not a good point but like a a statement about it's bigger than football football. Perhaps is an opportunity. Maybe it gives you opportunities you. Maybe maybe wouldn't have had otherwise but it's what you do with it and it's the people that you end up meeting along the way like a bow like your teacher right right like your mom who obviously to me with you that allow you to then see it for all that it is it's bigger than football and i think we hear a lot about this because so much nowadays to with social media it's about winning. It's about rings and of course. How did you said earlier on like how's the season going to go well. Oh it's only gonna go one way because jobs depend on it right. People depend on the winning and so what's going to happen on that journey. What's gonna happen on that path off but it's bigger than just winning the championship. Although those are very important because you can you can help make amazing men along the way in doing what you're doing in this person might not even go on to play football after high school but he learned all these lessons along the way and who knows what he's going to become and i think that's what you're doing. I think that's what bo always doing. You didn't have to go to the n._f._l. To be wildly successful individual right one kid who was like a <hes> he's assistant superintendent right now and so i've i've been assistant superintendent. All he talks about is how i never gave up and always gave them a chance because he came stay on football parties jimmy you're never played before and he got a scholarship to division one school and you know he'd never plating eating everything and he stuck with it ended up playing over canadian league and all that and he was assistant superintendent he always worked hard but he always think back about ah are working in a how how much i stayed on him to be a great player to be a great person and he always goes back to those these learn in life so that's what that's what helped make him personally yesterday and so it's about what you do help build a foundation of where you can become. Well said all right so i know you've got to get going a minute but i gotta bring this up. I mentioned it quickly before. <hes> your michigan and i mentioned to players. There's a second ago and there's others that they go all over the place. <hes> especially nowadays might weber is one recently comes to mind <hes> and he went to our state in yeah. I know he's heavily recruited in the state of michigan. What's it like seeing players. You went to michigan right and just to let you know so frame of reference. My parents met at ohio state state. My grandmother went to ohio state. I was born into being a buckeye and my dad always said when you can do anything you want but if you ever go to that team up north right and you're on your own but it's fine right. There's there's there's no respect factor. That's there in rudy redmond who i know you know well and our our track coach <hes> we we joke about it at times. Sometimes it's not as easy to joke about a player. Mike mike weber damon web go into ohio state eight from the state of michigan. I think kids are looking looking at different. I mean back in the day. I think it didn't change my didn't change states as much but nowadays the world the board it's different right. How do you see that as a high school football coach because i know they're getting pressure from their home state and those fans and all that i've been going me. I really try to just get my kids in any university wants to be i want i want them to be happy. I think that there's there's a kid is the most important thing is not what i want is what they want what they need and their lives so they can see themselves grow. I think that <hes> <hes> sending kids different universities it makes us better for me and makes it better for colleges because they know that in coming here and probably get a kitten cat say they know the coach not scared to say hey go there. We go meeting places. We can get him out to one about l._s._u. Wanted to go to u._s._c. wanted to go to colorado woman to go to wash. They want him to go anyplace. They want to go to go to florida alabama. Wherever wherever i want the kid gloves and get experience because expressed life is what's really going the pedestal giving you opportunity mobile as you get older gives you opportunity to see more so you can do more. You can be better 'cause you'll see some beings probably there. You probably never i saw here in the state of michigan so you have to be able to let kids be flexible or where they go. You have to what's important. I mean i think tom it's it's happening more and more right because it's easier to travel than it ever was and i think you allowing them like you said it's not about necessarily surly like yeah. You're building something but allowing these kids to go where it's best for them. Were they're excited to go and you supporting that. I think is a big deal. I appreciate your time. I know you've got to run a practice all right thank you. I appreciate you got one of my favorite things about our sports content. 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Impact rookies for all 32 teams

NFL: Move the Sticks with Daniel Jeremiah & Bucky Brooks

23:58 min | 1 year ago

Impact rookies for all 32 teams

"And now move the sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks. What's up everybody welcome to move the sticks presented by New Era D._J.. lee-jay bucky back on the sticks. Buck and look we've got we've got our prototype series. It's out there for the folks to listen to N._F._l.. Dot Com slash MT s prototype camps or kicked up. I mean we had to get in here and chat to Singapore where we had to. It's been an exciting weekend. Everyone is in camp. Everyone's fully going. I can't see you on T._v.. A little bit I've Richard Out <hes> made my way to Dallas cowboys. I got a chance to see those guys work and all it does manage just kind of fees. Defy football is in full effect. I am excited to talk about some of the guys that we were talking about. I think it was interesting on the show. Let's just talk about a rookie. We'll stay in our wheel house that we watched. All these guys WANNA draft process so what we're going to do today is we're. GonNa talk about thirty to impact rookies. He's one from each team. I can't wait to get store now. We're going to crank this thing. We're going to do a thirty two series so we're going to have a topic one player for all thirty two teams. We've got about four different episodes episodes. We're GONNA roll out there. <hes> this one going to focus on those rookies <hes> before we get there though Real Quick Dallas Cowboys I was at charge you at cowboys. Give the folks a little bit of what you got there. The Dallas cowboys are loaded in there good. I'm not GonNa make a proclamation printed shirts because every time I say it goes awry but when I'm watching them practice D._J.. I don't see a UH glaring weakness or hole in this roster. This is a team that was out. I mean they're loaded like the one thing that you could talk about is maybe running back position if they don't have. Zeke man might Auburn how Tony Pollard look only Paul where they stood out. They both of those guys super-athlete it when you watched him go through jobs. You could see the juice. <hes> Mike Weber in particular. I know Tony probably gets a lot of might and in particular was very very impressive getting in and out of bags making cuts in doing those things they're running back coach Gary Brown Ebay the job but I couldn't take my eyes off their defense. When I look at it defense I know strike faster league right we coming off the prototype series. We didn't talk about linebackers linebackers but I could not keep off of Jalen. Smith and Vander like L._v. and Jim Smith the two guys when you when watch them play together man. They're like playing on a string and I'm sure you in Baltimore Ray. Lewis and I'm not trying to put them in the hall but the way they play. There's no the reason why those guys shouldn't be pro bowl caliber players to this defense. Does it remind you of Carolina a little bit with keithly and Thomas Davis Man. They're so fast like just to overall all those guys to schism there <hes> the American they're big. They're athletic and when you think about the way they wanNA play on defense being a man to man a little zone. They really make it difficult and I'm GonNa say this demarcus Lawrence de pass rush is going to be good. They've been very impressed with Robert Quinn so they feel like they have a one two punch their but their their defense coordinated Chris Rashard someone who I know really really well. We draft him in Seattle to watch him teach. I don't know if you've ever stood on the field and just watch someone. Kinda go through conductor business. There's a reason why he is well revered and highly thought of watching him work with the D._B.'s on just lose things I now have a greater understanding and appreciation for what he did to get their defense playing at the level that they played it last year. Oh look it's you gotta tip your Cap Thome with. What they've I've done him Rod Marinelli they fly to the ball. You have a fast team and they and they get to the ball. I mean it's fun to watch the SUPERFUND chargers real quick couple takeaways. Is there going out there and watching that team again very talented. Especially upfront doses in great shape. He's healthy and getting people forget last year. This team won twelve games in both ten. Go get him back healthy. That's can have impact on Melvin Ingram. Yes <hes> Jerry. Tillery is huge now. He's still coming back from the shoulder so that he had that <hes> what Labor or whatever surgery had after after <hes> underrated prospect. I don't know he played hurt all your. I don't know if we talked about him enough to pats draft up to put dominant plea inside aside. He could be a difference maker for them so that gives them. You know some versatility inside just Jones second-year player looks good at Chinon. Awo Sue Kaiser White Back at Linebacker Thomas Davis just was talking about. They're talking about how he's still flying around the field. You could see it there during James Talking about the leadership at Thomas Davis has brought to that group defensively. No concerns secondary's second-year really good offensively look Russell Kun has has some health stuff so that's really scary and hopefully he's going to be okay but that offensive line's. It's gotTa get some pieces. Figured out is forced. Lampkin ended up winning one of those guards spots. I think he's one of the best five guys so that'll be a storyline to keep an eye on. If if you're listening to this and you've got a fantasy football draft coming up draft Hunter Henry Oh trust me. You've been big on just trust me. He looks good. He's in the mid talk to him afterwards and we talked to him on the podcastone our prototype series for the tight ends. He's in the mid to forties. He is lean he's running by probably flies flying. He's got him just a niece. Leave on no no brace and was moving moving so wow and then Mike Williams you know a lot of talk about tyrone Williams. Turn it up for the raiders right now. Are they going to miss him. You know I don't know man. Mike Williams confidence level but you know when you go see a guy in like last year. It's just a little things in the scouting community. You'd pick up on it because you had to practice it. May Be is is down a little bit. He is chest out is up. He is one confident dude and him and Philip collected connect on a couple of back shoulders. He's GonNa have a huge year so it's funny. I had a chance to hear. Philip rivers talk about Mike Williams connection. He said you know is unique. When you have a wide receiver they're sees the game through the quarterbacks is and how they kind of have this telepathic communication nation on the perimeter where he doesn't have to say anything we just kind of guest spots when you talk about those back shoulder fades and the things that they've been able to do in camp. It's tough because because they got those basketball players on the perimeter. I don't know how many teams can match up with those gusts yeah. It's GonNa be fun to watch and of course Keenan Allen and he looks great all right. We've got thirty two teams to get through here. We're going to do this almost rapid fire here just going through the rookie. That's going to have a big time impacted it. Look it'd be easiest. Take the first round pick for all these guys. Some of these teams are not going to do that. Go outside the obvious and find somebody else thinks can have a big time impact. Why don't you do the A._F._C.? I'll take the N._F._C. Okay. Let's do it all right. START US off here with the Ravens okay so with the Ravens Man. It's tough because you talked about maybe moving outside of it so the original ricky dead ahead was Hollywood. Hollywood Brown's GonNa be the guy takes top off the defense. Whatever but the Gaddum to keep your eye on Maoz how's Boykin because when you think about this big physical office and how they want to run the football well you need big Gaz on affirmative can kind of get in there and dig out those safeties but more importantly with miles report? Can you get a big target about the more Jackson's accuracy sprayed a little bit yeah so the best way to expand the strike zone. Get a big boy miles boykin is someone that you need to watch. I like that art. Dealer still is Devon Bush. Devon Bush's exactly what they needed to haven't been right can't cover anybody to linebacker. Those laws really hurt them. Devon Bush comes over and he's the right kind of guy he has. He picked for Stiller big fast physical. He's GonNa be Great. The Cleveland browns greedy Williams. I'M GONNA I'M GONNA agree to because I'm excited to see him up it Dinsdale Ward. I think those genres Steve Wilks does a great job of developing young receivers years ago. He had an impact on Josh Norman. Think greedy. Williams has some similar trae op. Tell you what there's never going to be more is on a corner at how he tackles in the preseason then it's going to be hungry greedy up these coaching like hey I first time sacrifice. Someone who'll get fifteen fifteen below. Somebody hit somebody because you've got to get rid of. This reputation that you've had he absolutely has to go do that. Are who we got next Jimmy Pratt you may pret- in this process when he was coming out I thought he was going to be a real pain. Is such a great name. If I have a fifth kid it's going to be Germane. No kids over here the J. contract attributable to deal move onto the A._F._C. East the New England patriots the cure hair. He's the guy that I wanNA. I WanNa talk about because the versatility didn't make your hair. This is a big advocate return punts and that punt return <hes> ability is going to make him an an impact player in his catch and run off. Can you get on the field as a rookie in they need him too but historically rookies getting on the field positions tough tough. It's GonNa be tough but I think he's going to be able to get at worst case. I think they can create a little package for him to get on. They need to get him in the red zone to losing GRONK. I think he gets them. Red Zone targets all right the Miami Documents Christian Wilkins Look. They don't have many chalk with these first round picks. Okay that's fine. That's not a rule. There wasn't that you could talk about first round picks. That's what I see. Wilkins Christian workers inside look like leadership abilities already already brought think he's Kinda bought into the program. They need someone to leak because remember. This is a team without camera wake. They need some leadership along differ a lot. Maybe he can provide that. You know it's interesting because when I look at him in okay you've got somebody's versatile. That's smart extremely high character long successful track record in college really if you look at trying to rebuild a dolphins team minkah Fitzpatrick and Christian Wilkins at the same guy just playing different levels of the defense but very similar. We're talking about the character of the toughness versatility ability. That's kind of how they're going to reshape this roster now. They have to reshape it their way they won't smart physical guys. Kristen Wilkins can do it and I like what you brought up we make of his parish newham being the new leaders of the defense losing the jets Jamal and all those guys <hes> the Williams drew they can get it in buffalo bills okay. I'M GONNA AVOID I. I'm not GonNa talk about it all of it all of his Lynch what they WanNa do single-tier in the reason why is because the old running backs they have in the Backfield Shady McCoy Frank Gore can still count on those guys to be contributed so if we can't count it and maybe they can get the young Guy Devon Singapore in the mix his quickness closeness ernest to consummate Josh Allen. Maybe just maybe that's the way the every year have a player that I give a good grade two and a half right in the middle my top fifty and then they have a poor spring and I have reluctantly dropped out of the top fifty and then fast forward six months later. I'm an idiot white and I just keep this in their Devon Single Terry guy for me this year now you could be. He has a special skills deals with the ball in his hands all right. We got for the A._T._S. Moluccas. He's quitting Williams Williams. We get an opportunity to put him beside Linda Williams Greg Williams Williams Greg Williams will get the most out of this true. He'll get them going. They'll be frothy. They're going to be an attack no and talking to Jamal Adams over the summer he he said look me. Hugh Williams was explosive. He was really impressive when he got a chance to see him. I think he ever express an oppressive frontline with Williams and Williams playing alongside all set each other bonus Chuma Yoga. We'll see if he can one of those tackle spots athletic tax because they need to make sure that they're protecting the franchise quarterback. Let's get to the south all right so we you go look from Alabama state. He is a guy that comes in and look give some controversial whether he should have been a first round pick. They had no choice daddy get someone that can protect Shawn Watson. He will get an opportunity to be in the mix. We will see if he can make their transition quickly from small school standout too big star the stages are colts rocky's in in Indianapolis Campbell. I see you man. I've talked about periods Campbell periods gambling what he's going to bring as a Dan employment bringing a move away from from the wide receiver position Rocky said is tough. He's rugged. This defense is really going to be the catalyst to their success. Roxanne has to be a contributor all right we got A._J.. Brown A._J.. Brown for the Tennessee Titans you talk about Corey. Davis needed to have a big year I think A._J.. Brown has to emerge as a guy that can be a complimentary playmaker. They need to be able to push the ball down the field. I think this guy's a nice intermediate playmaker I think he has some big playability he should be able to do that. Opposite Corey Davis Yeah. I liked that one. Let's go to the jags Jacksonville Jaguars Josh Allen Josh Allen is kind of a luxury item Dan This is the deepest and needs to get back dominating his sack. Production should help them get back on track. I also think is really cover tight ends especially. You're talking about playing a team like the colts inside the division division with Eric Hebron gives you a little versatility and a little more value there other than just being a pure Russia. Let's get to the West here the chiefs one night division entities may continue to reign over division. Eh some good news that you better you better. Go Santa's going one thornhill. I'm over one thornhill because they need a ball hawked any someone that can create tire matthew. That's yeah yeah. They got that but why isn't young guy that can give them some production. I like him and I think he has enough still that he could kick off the way outside if they need to all right here we go chargers. We talked what about Jerry Tillery <hes> for the L._A.. Charges being able to come up in the point of attack being able to dominate inside. They have everything that you want our defense. He's just a big by Decca Dominic doc inside. Hey look body type wise. He looks like Chris Jones charges hoping that that's what he turns into. He's broncos Noah Fan. This is a team that has been desperate to find a tight end. John Elway elway was really on a mission to find a tight in where he gets no offense. Norfolk is a difference maker inside. If you ask my opinion big-time play make a guy that should be dominant into red zone and and in district bootleg attack where they're trying to kind of recreate. What some of the things we've done in San Francisco? I think he could be a big player much like George Kilwa interesting. He Kinda Kinda do his damage in three catches because he can catch a touchdown inside the red zone. He might go sixty <hes> somewhere else because of his speed so we don't need to touch the ball bunch to have a big impact he can have a big impact. It is going to have a big impact but Oakland raiders. How about Josh Jacobs? Josh Jacobs is exactly what Jon Gruden wanted. He wanted to build out a position. This guy took care of the the A._F._C.. It's my shot as we get to the N._F._C.. Let's start. Let's start N._F._C.. North and let's start with the bears David Montgomery love. How is he there when they picked? I have no idea how oh he slid to them. That was a gift he's a better player. In my opinion and Jordan Howard was dot com close and he's going to be able to take the reins there at the running back position can also help you out in the passing game. That was a Homerun pick for the bears Minnesota Vikings Garrett Bradberry if you went into a lab and designed a center to play in a Gary Kubiak Mike Shanahan Shanahan type system with all the zone and all the stretch this is who you'd come out with Gary Bradbury's but he's built to play in this in this offense to play in this office. He's the prototype. He's look he's. He's a terrific guy able to get to the next level. I was impressed with them office day but then when you saw him in the senior bowl dominate I think he's dominating the league. I one of the things that that helps you out is when you have position flexibility upfront the Green Bay packers they draft Elton Jenkins out of Mississippi State. He can play center. He can play guard that versatility is going allow them to keep their best five on the field. You can absorb injury and his ability to move around. I think has has a big impact for packers offensive line. They need to play well. Let's let Aaron Rodgers get accustomed in this new system so make sure to see how he does E._S._O._l.. Because they gotta get their running game and steps to run game will really complement what they WanNa do an ambassador. I don't know if you've seen this bucket. It warms my heart because he returns for the Detroit Detroit. Lions First Round Pick T._J.. Hopkinson the best pass catcher out of practice everything that you hear but I mean he's he's the best thing that he does. He's a blocker. He's physical. He allows allows them to get more to their blue collar premise that they want and so his ability to really seal the edge in the run game shit allowed him to play the way they wanNA play which is a little different than the we've seen them play in the past when Matthew Stafford media impact and we're seeing the to me the passing Games gravy what he's GonNa do to help carry on Johnson <hes> T._J.. Hodkinson that's going be one look people say I wasn't the sexiest as a really really good pick for this football team trying to create a culture and identity. He fits perfectly with what they're trying to build their with the lines. Let's the N._F._C. East Dallas. Cowboys talked about you being out there. I asked about Tony Power for a reason because I make sure see how he's used and you look around the league and we're seeing the fly sweeps. We're seeing the jet sweep takeoff. You look at Tony powered be able to get you some single back stuff. You can get him in on third down screen draw type. He's been a receiver and then you also look at one of the best kickoff returns in the draft last year so I don't know how those touches are going to come or how they're gonNA use them a makes us to see how that all comes together but I think Tony Pollard has an impact your one I I think he does have an opportunity to have an impact especially when we're talking about the Zeke situation whenever Zeke shows up they still need someone that can kind of take some pressure off him. He is one of those differs making those M._p.. Guys it's a change of pace playmaker plus return skills we can come in and make attribution all right Philadelphia Eagles lots been made of the Sean Jackson and his return. I'M GONNA go with the rookie wide receiver J._J.. Sega whiteside to have an impact and this is going to be a little bit you just roll with me here because I think he's going to have an impact on the red zone not gonNA catch a ton of balls but because of his physicality he's the best jump ball red zone receiver that I've ever evaluated and I'm not I'm saying athletic guys job but the way he's able to position with his basketball background goes back through his family only with mom and dad but to box out and get the football. I think he's GonNa get some big touchdowns for the Eagles and I also think his toughness is GonNa play on special teams. He'll have an immediate impact. He should have an immediate impact on the outside. <hes> they have a lot of mouths to feed on the perimeter but I could see him carbon in a row as you stated as arisen weapon all right Redskins Dwayne Haskins. Do I need to say much. We both agree the air so you know what you need to get in the second year to help him kind of take their jump assault and I were saying immediate impact but it's going to be improved. Impact is the the way I would phrase it with Dwayne Hill They have to really lean on this defense lawyer James Beshir to be more aggressive and I think this could allow Dexter to be more involved in the past. I just is body type is crazy. How big again athletic he is <hes> he'll impact saints Eric McCoy? That's enough said he's going to have to start at center for this team. <hes> when you're when you're starting center who's been a good player for you decides nights to write off into the sunset. They draft you this job years. Hopefully there won't be a big drop off there at the position. I don't think it would be he's saw the plea who's really impressive throughout the entire tire predrag process so I think he's going to jump right in store and contribute all right next one falcons and I know they drafted a couple young offensive lineman. We'll see if they can get on the field or not Chris Lindstrom Trim out of Boston College. They killed mcgarry out of Washington. I'M GONNA go a little off the radar here John Kaminsky defensive tackle small school. We saw him at the senior bowl. I think he's going to have a chance chance to give him some inside pass rush. She has an immediate impact. He should have an impact gang Q. wants to Dallat wants to really get after they want to get back to their brand. They can be fast and physical urgent athletes. He is an urgent <unk> athlete. He plays as an asset player all right. We get the Carolina Panthers again. I'm not going to try and get to creative here. Brian Burns they need pass rush to go to get Florida state's Brian Burns put on the weight in the spring so far so good looks like he's holding up that weight. He's looked great so far early in camp. They need need need pass rush. He's GonNa give give it to him off the edge. Do you think he will give it to them. They have to have someone that can kinda. Give them double digit sacks on again. I'm going to put it right in the fairway with the Tampa Bay Bucks 'cause nobody's going to have a bigger impact about why got now see John Kaminski's in your know everything they need topos knees traffic up more importantly. He's the guy that is inside. He is that he's a natural leader. Everyone talks about he is depa Piper. I think he gets defense going and Devon White. I really believe this. I think you can have have the similar type of impact we saw Derwin last year during James because he brought so much energy and excitement and that helps elevate your group. I think Devon Whites GonNa have a chance to do that with that. Tampa Defense Art Rams Daryl Henderson the other running back from Memphis. I mentioned his teammate Tony Pollard Daryl Henderson. I would imagine as we go through the season. What do they call that the N._B._A.? Game when they're trying to manage pitcher workload low advantage load management there you go load management with Todd Gurley. I think you'll see a guy like Darrell. Henderson be the benefactor of said load management Nice Nice Nice should be company player looked dangerous dangerous playmaker Memphis. He'd be a nice addition to this mix are now we get to the Seattle seahawks decay metcalf one of the more scrutinized draft prospects thought he got over dinged a little bit come to the process always a little bit stiff yeah well he had stiff but he's also big explosive and when he was healthy on the field we saw some big plays down the field and you could not I talked about bradberry being a perfect fit in Minnesota. If you're going to say decay metcalf we can put him in the perfect location for his skill set. It's in Seattle Seattle. He's in the right spot by vertical playmaker. Make it happen and then we get to the forty niners deebo Samuel how cow Shanahan and his creativity gonna use them again going to see him on some jet sweeps Simpson some double screens but also I thought we got to the senior bowl buck. We've talked about him being kind of a gadget guy. We're like hold up. This guy's legit route runner. They can't cover this guy. It had a tough time with deebo Samuel Versatile. He's tough. He's dynamic. You talk about the pieces cow. Shanahan's assembled on the perimeter deebo. Samuel is one of those <hes> trick gadget gas who also has some skills as maybe a number two receiver in the League all right. We'll get to the Arizona cardinals last but not least again calorie <hes> we had a bunch of his footage on on from <hes> cardinals camp couple days ago and in a couple of things first of all the ball just jumps out he throw mainly through guess. What we talk talk about that is it is very easy? The other thing is I don't recall seeing a rookie quarterback and I'm not saying he's GonNa be the best rookie quarterback of all time but I can tell you in going back to what sixteen years now of doing this. I've never seen a rookie quarterback more comfortable what he looked like in practice. I think very very comfortable confidence. He knows I also and also very self aware he has a really keen sense of who he is and what he needs to be in this office and I think this office I don't know if they'll light it up but I do believe he's going to play well bill and his offense for Kingsbury Nobel are that was fun little trip around the League there thirty two players thirty two impact rookies again. We're going to keep this up. We're going to come up with a couple more topics. We'll get you one player from each team. Were expecting big things from anything else. You want to add before we get down this. We can do thirty two things in thirty two minutes. It just make the thirty two thing to see if we can just get all around yeah. I like that idea branding. That's done a little something there all right for the folks that haven't checked out out our prototype series. It is available N._F._l.. Dot Com Slash M._T._S. prototype. It's where we go position by position. 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The Kist & Solak Show #109: Eagles-Titans Preseason Recap

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The Kist & Solak Show #109: Eagles-Titans Preseason Recap

"Hi this is jim from the step over the radio ballers podcast talking seventy sixers tune in this off season. Season is my co host. Maximize talk next steps and solar recovered from sixers raptors game seven over a span of many many months were listened back to old episodes and make fun of how wrong we were. Let's be confident only on the e._s._p._n. Podcast network michael kissed listening again benjamin assignments so land. It's the kissed in seoul action presented pine espy nation and bleeding green nation. Oh you are flying is somewhat on the kiss ten solex show. This is episode. One nine brought to you by the five unfocused s._p. Nation and bleeding green nation. I michael kissed follow me on twitter at michael kissed n._f._l. That's k. i s. T. is getting hard to get through this intro because alls i can think about clayton thorson and but i am joined by benjamin sollac who has thoughts on the matter. Don't don't say that name do not solely the podcast with the men fled. I i mean you said you wanted to go after it right after the top hand so upset and you would think that because i knew this is what it was going to look like that same it'll be less upset you think the fact that we both said the moment to pick happen that this was a complete waste of an objectively on valuable but still draft pick you think they will make it better but it does not you would also think that an organization like the philadelphia eagles a very smart organization with a very loaded roster would not make a pick as bad as clayton thorson and look. It's one preseason game. He's a rookie whatever but to for nine seven seven yards a zero point zero for ninety. Seven yards watched the player play the game. I mean there's there's missing thing and then there's just existing on different ethereal plane and the rest of the other physical bodies that are currently on the football field i was i was selling your buddy. John ledger that he should be dropped off in in the himalayas and tracked by national geographic camera crew like he's a snow boulevard like this. This is this is crazy. This is crazy that a quarterback that is drafted spoi- orange believe he's playing on this week. He's doing like what what what shape the footballs on the plane that he was born. I want them to interview him. Ask it after the game in ask ask him what he wants to be on. He grows up he clearly. It's not n._f._l. Quarterback now it's clearly not n._f._l. Quarterback and that's an issue for the eagles because of the news with nate subtle talk about that or we continue to rip on thorson. I'm good either way because even like like there. There were times were receivers dropped the ball form and you know he's playing with fringe roster guys to but at the same time like the interception he was totally clean had time through bad ball thrown a ball to the flat. They called it pull in the string as ross tucker said canadian complete that the interception was one of the most amazing as i've ever seen in my entire life in terms of i think every receiver besides the target was open within a half a second of that route concert developing as a quarterback. You know hypothetically where the receivers were headed within a half second of that play development. I could've told you that a deep day was not going to be open now and that's not like oh that's okay. I don't know jack daily about football and i could have told you that that was not gonna open. He had a safety over the top them in a linebacker singing underneath route. It's not gonna open and he had he had a flat bed and he had the the <hes> the the the other out route outside open now and he just stared it and chugging completeness. There's just nothing salvageable about that. Play whatsoever now now again. It doesn't matter but because it's a very good team with very good players and so if you just save yourself okay we have round pick. We don't need any players. We're gonna draft quarterback. We're back if you hit on a quarterback as a good situation right cool but like john walker daria sleep in science smith garner menchu <hes> david long who was just playing for the tennessee the titans trace frigging <unk> get jerry green mississippi say there's so many players like actually have legs in the world rodney anderson the markets christmas this mike weber just like people who could actually stick on n._f._l. Roster there's no point. Have we believe that claims is gonna make this roster and now it's even less likely i with the injury. Now it is actually likely gob with us and you know ben you stay up until four a._m. Writing a fifteen hundred word piece on nate seinfeld and how he can use the next four weeks to prove do that. He can be a capable spot starter if need be and it's a position you know the backup. Quarterback position is very important in philadelphia has proven to be over the past couple of years and and the guy goes out there. He's seventy five yard touchdown marquan michelle who somehow bird like olympic speed guy dorie jackson and then he takes the hit falls back in the next thing you know he's being carted off with an air cast on his arm a similarly because something happened with the rest and it sucks man because southfield is one of the more entertaining -taining backups that is seeing significant playing time in the preseason because he's not like a dinka dunk guy he gets after but also this might be the only type of real action forum to show that he's the guy that he can be the number two that that is on a contract year by the way it's extremely unfortunate and for more context on it a shoutout to gil saunders of the the fourth john crew for posting the video of the injury i added dr chow aka pro-football documents heard of him and he chind in by saying that the video looked like a left wrist fracture. It's to his non throwing hand which is a plus and quote not done for the season but a while on quotes that it's bad news all all around for the eagles and just thorson looking the way that he did made it even worse and we can talk about kessler being like a decent backup quarterback back like that's kind of his ceiling he did go to in two as a starter for the jaguars last year but he also through for like an abysmal yards per attempt than they averaged ten point four points when he had significant playing time in a game for the jaguars last year so we saw combat at the quarterback spot the backup quarterback for the eagles now there's like there's a reason that teams did not want to guess. Certainly there's a reason why the eagles were able to sign him as q._b. Three now when you have like you know a young guy that you're trying to like the eagles subtle right then you don't want to bring in a casler unless is going to be reported back for you so i still think he's a very serviceable quarterback. Do you could survive with him if you need to do but in the event of a long went injury that's not a foles you know like situation. Listen i would argue cellphone was also not bad despite kind of the cult following that he has and seinfeld. I mean he's he's. He's just a rocket on a stick right like there's not much germs of of of mental processing is is significant players backers the he's an absolute host like that. That's good but i agree with you in the sense that like this is gonna hit free agency next year so this this was a huge opportunity for him to showcase to the other thirty one n._f._l. Teams that he'd be worthy upbringing in as as a guy is gonna continue to be a backup in the n._f._l. That this was his opportunity so him the the six to eight week timeframe. That's weeks three five the regular season. The eagles would probably be okay going the first four weeks n._f._l. Season without carson wentz this having a a significant back-up. They really think seinfeld's can be able to make it back by week three big four on but it's just a shame because the preseason diabled for nate seinfeld personally from the showcase his stuff is best that he could use. You can get a tunnel times eagles. Were not gonna risk wentz playing much if any football on and he's gonna hit raising next year you get it up soon to make some money so that's that's the real zapping their the other disappointing part is it's now harder to evaluate the eagles pass catching threats because suffield gave them the best chance like the best ball all of the night in terms of an ability to make a play was the the earlier single whiteside from where do job has ended up coming down with that made a pretty good plan the football ends of transient against the ground but like like you're not going to get those throws from kessler thorson and so you'll lose the opportunity to evaluate your plight your your weapons in an in game contacts with a player of sells arms frankenmuth. This is willingness to test a downfield coverage. So that's the disappointing eagle side from the the subtle zayed simply the money he could potentially made in twenty twenty just got a funny comment from emma listener marcos levy at mark levy a he said mike don't be rude is a mike don't be so hard on thorson had more completions than interceptions. I guess that the that's the bar you're the setting for thorson to ratio babies how we like it. Let's do some stock up stock down and we can just kind of move around the different position groups. That doesn't have to be in any kind of order in this. What is twenty seven to ten loss for the philadelphia. Eagles very important game doesn't share anything <hes>. Let's go stock up. Eljay eljay fort will go the linebackers. I really liked the way that he moved around and he's a little bit undersized is about two thirty but i mean you talk about a guy who is definitely making this roster in my opinion and the sideline the silent did he show at two thirty a. size at this point like i wouldn't even call it on her size. Yeah undersize strong but you know what i mean. He's not like two forty like brad. You know what what i mean so it's it's a little bit on the lighter side of the spectrum but stock down nate gary getting washed out just looking lost sarah guys down here the touchdown thrown on now i was i was talking about the touchdown before i think that was jonathan ciprian fault. I think ross tucker said the same on the broadcasts you thought the same thing <hes> ciprian acting like it was his fault so don't put against four don't put any disrespect on his miscommunication yeah. I'd like somebody who was wrong with them right and stock down for gary. What what do you think about those <unk>. I'd just i just like like the nate. Gary experiments probably over right. You know it's it's very good in the sense that you have eljay for you have paul war or allow zac brown nisab rodham the question mark is it how long has come out <unk> out long-term. You're probably still keeping gary but it simply like there's no reason i was even talking about this a little bit last year but it was only a second year bigger. Whatever in the gary was kind of in that will fighting the job even last year like this is no reasonable garrison gonna successfully translate the linebacker. You drafted a guy late at for a positional switch good dart throw. It didn't work. That's totally fine move on. He's gotten bigger but he's lost speed wasn't bitterly fast to begin with is not a good cover man. He's an accident. <unk> does not see place available does not have a good head for the game bob abune in line via bad one bad preseason game but this is not like a take. I decided to make today. Gary is not able to to play since since he came in so i i i don't see him as a desirable roster candidates specially if grace you know a healthy enough such that you want to keep him on the roster we've won four yet. No no fort ford had a solid game against twos threes. You know what i mean. I still think it's a backup player on special. Teams is gonna keep him on the roster fisher i wasn't like i don't think i'm super stock up on four and that's what i expected if i could from him but like you know it's obviously good to see a guy turn out the way that he did. In defensive backs wise on its stock up probably stop still wear vantera mattis was yes. We thought madison was good and he played good. It stocked up branches today. Homes certainly a player who's going to who he's guest anna. Oh yes ghanistan roster. I mean let let's let's make that clear so we can stop getting that question because i get that question all the sunday who is worth more than a fourth round pick right now. I'd like the fourth round peg leg if they did they cool assuming the coolest ciprian be the end <hes> safety three weeks ciprian played that bad mike another that might upset. You didn't think separate bad. I'm okay with it but now he's really good closing down here. I don't think he's super grayson savell behind him. Run on ideal for free safe you but there's a reason why it's not a star in the league anymore and that's part of it is a safety threes exactly what you want. He's not corey graham. He's not an idiot on he. He brings up playmaking ability closing down mills tackler right. I'm feeling real zastava tonight. Michael fire also clan verses got me cooking and so oh so so where does your safety three yeah stock down with the safeties though i gotta go with blend countess and trace alvin sullivan was really bad tonight man and he's he's got like a weird high that people that really like him but he was allowing easy completions tight ends he followed by filling incredibly poorly in the alley on a big inside run for the the titans <hes>. He's going to have to fend off late. Countess who got first team reps over him. If that tells you anything so beyond deo and you know we'll see what ciprian it does but it doesn't look real great for the safety position which you know isn't the worst problem have but at the same time is still could be a problem especially considering the injuries that this defensive backfield face last cheer what about offensive line stop andre dillard stock down jordan my lada. Would you agree. I wanna say stock down. My lot was not going to be like a lot of good. The year two it would be massively shopping needs played football for a year. Let's all chill to me. My whereabouts expected to be which is still bad enemy what i mean like that's that's really okay my may to clarify something ben when i when i say these stocks it's it's not necessarily our stocks because i think we both agreed that like my lada was going to be a the project. I think we both thought that like four would be solid but unspectacular like like that's like our stock is different than like what a lot of different people think and i think a lot of people people had the expectation that might lot of in your to was subtly going to transform into fringe starter spot starter capable guy. I and it just turns out that the n._f._l. Is like really hard right and yeah. I mean like i'm not trying to like pick on your stock upside down just trying to like have conversations with other place flight me ben yeah yeah. No this is serious and podcasting your gang stock on that prior gob a play out penalties especially when there's a very crowded guard tackle room and you are a guard tackle and just the you know you can't be have multiple pound <unk> agreeable problem yeah yeah no i in generally like not super effective active <unk> dillard. It'll get washed over that dillard still not super comfortable coming out of his stance on getting into a sad. That's a he's still a little bit all over the place because he was highly effective and he's affected rostker called camelot korea pretty good pass rusher not not bringing capacity is pretty bad. Pass rusher actually but like you know he. He's still stonewalling second teamers. That's okay 'cause you're second team so you're being out second team. Zero schedule dillard's looked looked like you'd want your first round. Pick an office tackle especially when you knew you were getting into which yeah he was getting into his sets perfectly but if they work they work at the end of the day and he was the fact that he's along super nimble and he looks he looks sick. He looks really really fully up the n._f._l. Size which is great so stock up style dillard star down for me. Matt pryor announced napa wine defensive line stock up literally. Everybody stevens allies so good they i'm. I'm watching qassim edibala. Whenever like used name is and i was like shit. You must roster this kid here. We go the new joe houseman but not all joking aside. Dacia holds great as an extra round. Pick people forget about this now now. He has the advantage of grown up a second teamer. When joshua was gonna be the first teamer interior lewan right that's correct yeah lewan verse sweat yeah bernard while he has longer sweat but then competent wasn't out there against right additional hall. I thought a okay regardless. Even independent of that hall was effective. Sweat was effective active in z had against a guy like one he lost several and that's part of playing taylor. Lewan hill was one of the best left tackles in the game right now on able to to push bush the decree pressure the ball rush rush with good power. He still has that ability to get to the outside shoulder to attack points for the nicely when you at hall and sweat rate with a winning winning off the outside corners the way that you did you generating a rarely can a really consistent pass rush. Yeah like there wasn't a good pass rush on the tannehill touchdown throw but like i mean station sean hostile one was named gary. There's some you know just odd attribution thought. Bruce actor played well. The trayvon has played well. Hassan ridgway was playing notably welfare. Yeah foregoing down with injury. Ridgway was really impressing especially in the run game as interior guy so every every edge everyday of the tackle that i saw was putting out significant qualities the sheriff miller had a couple of plays rather even survey smeller now deal stevens align the who they keep is going to end up being valuable for them. They got a ton of good options. Yeah i agree an update on ridgeway. He was being evaluated for a concussion so we'll keep you updated on that. Maybe douglas speak on in the presser. That'll be up at the podium a._m. Tomorrow also charles john to the wide receiver he picked up a foot injury during the game and did not return will be come back. We'll do some more stock up stock down as we recap the very exciting exciting in erotic week one preseason game between the eagles and the titans coming up next here on the coast and select show. We'll be right back. Hey i'm spencer hall. I'm holly anderson <music>. I'm ryan nanny. I'm jason kirk and we're the hosts of the shutdown full cast your avengers of college football podcast says in the script to riff on what that means and basically exclude every tuesday we talk about everything from cooking disasters to pro wrestling too unfashionable pants worn middle school we also do talk about college football every now and then like mascot fights announcers fleeing the booth early and unfashionable pants that coaches where now if you want to take college football exactly as seriously as long as it should be taken subscribe for free on apple podcasts or in your favorite podcast app and we are back here on the kissed and zolak show episode one zero nine by the fine folks at s._p. Nation and bleeding nation michael kissed here with benjamin solich as we recap week one preseason action of the eagles and the titans titans. Let's do some more stock up either. Note officially announced by peterson the press conference nate setup broke his left wrist in surgery in the morning not season ending. I wonder what the recovery recovery time is on that but he's definitely going to miss a significant amount of time with that. It's good again that it's not his throwing hand so not the end of the world there so let's go back to <hes> stock up stock down on some players. Mark and michelle dude like okay so we start to look at this wide receiver position. We still haven't seen my collins. He was out there before the game catching some. I'm one hanters in the back of the end zone as branly out was was pointing out before the game but we don't know what's going on with his status. He's been day-to-day for. It seems like a year you start to look at the wide wide receiver position battle guys like shelton gibson. I didn't really see anything from him tonight. You see mark on michelle winning that that was seventy five yard touchdown. If i'm not mistaken yes seventy seventy five indeed and listen. I'll tell you right now. Eagles wide receiver core aside. You beat adore jackson for deep touchdown. Teams are gonna take tension brought that mattered yeah. I'll tell you all you don't wanna ask <hes>. I mean he he goes to the door. Jackson man garbage posted posted a good ball on. He addressed ego to address a he. He took it. Allow a jazz had a chance to make a plan the ball in our life from to go high on it but but san stern apply <unk> really quotas the met him to like he he was really excited and that that's that's what's fun about the preseason watching the guys react as they score. I don't know if it was his first touchdown but was obviously a big touchdown michelle stock up. I do not think you know the eagles wide receiver core is going to experience what for movement i would be surprised. If any of these <unk> godot c. edmark michelle potentially make the team but that play lately that plays gonna matter for michelle when other teams come calling to practice squads and felt the bottom of the bottom of the rosters that was a very high quality and a bloodline steel sony's brother oh souther michelle to have a brother or cousin yeah very nice okay yeah early in the game to just talk about people that were looking good. The eagles had three consecutive plays. I think it was on the second drive for the titans from the defense where the coverage was just outstanding <hes> with not just the quarterbacks which were jones maddox and residual but soon deo as well encouraging stop. We talked about him already but like overall encouraging urging signs. Zac brown was making some place like it's hard to find other than the safeties though we talked about earlier and dodig gary as well. I really didn't see a whole lot of bad other than the deep deep cornerbacks when you're getting into the depth chart that kinda struggled a little bit but overall like not not too much bad from the defense even though the scoreline won't own exactly tell you that but that's kind of part of the offense giving the ball up not convert on fourth down <hes> we can talk about thorson for the last ten minutes. If you want to go back to that now i would say that the all the significant move of running back would be stopped down. Josh adams campbell the football brother and also. There's no reason he's gonna give you targets. So what are you doing. Throwing screen passes to josh atoms. Get it. Yeah i mean like i guess twenty. Throw a designs in the breezy eason so yes if it's stocked down home for josh adams knocked down boston skies implies down for clemency doesn't play and sacramento smaller is said so which means five proxy z. by virtue by relative measure stock up okay what about telling you right now that flat out in third and one was going to house play dorsey good keven develop. Frigging turf is incredible. He couldn't hit him. What about dallas qatar and early in the game. He was best best player on the field best best offense weather on the field for either team in in the first quarter. Yeah i mean just an and the the he's gonna begins not scrubs. He's going to his wesley. Woodyard is going to be lose. The titans starting defense and there's just no you can't you can't he's too big and too quick to stack on. Who's great are also look good. I said well you gotta get a diving. Catch was able to get in a scramble cash and a little comeback rally days for your well. He had that that round or jackson where he was pendulum. Scourge made a good plan early on the ball as best you can so this tape wave single. Whiteside is our fago. I'd say excuse me figure whiteside yeah. I have not going to be able to say. I don't know if i can go outside our data whiteside. I think it's how you tend to be pronounced. The suss sound in spanish will traditional spanish. That's fantastic taking. I don't know if i'm going to gobble up all over again exactly but no you mentioned the match ups and you're right like yet preseason season but you're going against some of the ones and jay was going against one of the ones he when he had that diving catch that he was just not able to haul in that was against malcolm welcome butler and he did a great job. I mean good spot yeah. Sud feld sees the the one on one coverage and he's going to take a shot. We knew that coming into this thing and he got clean separation. He attacked you know the cushion. He stepped on butler's toes so to speak and you see you know he's got a step of separation and he's in great position. This is what i'm talking about when i say that he's not just a jump ball guy the actually the guy can run rounds. The guy can get open so very encouraging signs from j._j. Our website there anybody else in the offense standout today. Josh perkins wasn't bad now. That's pretty much the run a bit. I think that you're not you're simply not gonna see much movement on the eagles death dr so that makes preseason a little bit less interesting from that perspective active but then when you flip on the side. There's just a lot like we talked about this reviewing the game. The depth chart is so good that they're gonna put good players out there like dallas. Does ninety be seeing seeing that action but he's seeing the action <unk> tied into despite the fact that he is the fourth best tight end in the league so peaked before the humane snuck in the fourth best hiding the league. Show up very proud of you ben. I don't you know that that's how it feels at ease out to prove that angus year and i'm very very excited for it and what i was gonna say was i peaked in on the beginning of the giants jets game because that started at seven p._m. So he gave me a little half hour to see to see eli and i adjust absolutely adore the giants running a drawl on third and eight on their first drive and getting booed which might set a record for time time to boo in the preseason it was it was a beautiful sight right now. One of the trends on twitter as a rookie cure by gang jones is the talk of the town in n._f._l. Season opener which i mean the first drive looks fine now like tiles tyrod the frigging thing that's color murray had any kind of wedge speaking of which edge of me writing things. We have conversation yup. Why aren't we doing preseason broadcasts for the eagles. It wasn't my fault. That ross tucker got was laryngitis. It wasn't your fault either. We had nothing to do with that laryngitis. I also thought i was going to have all summer to campaign. I thought teams made this choice aren't really four days beforehand but confirm talker like in may some <unk> begun my campaign who color kander but i'm just saying the people are asking for it michael and we need to deliver you gotta get espy nation on the phone. We gotta get on the phone. Gotta get you know the commissioner schnur roger goodell and also i don't know like the supreme ruler of the galaxy. We gotta get the right people. I know we can talk to them. We case colonials preseason game and not a regular season game i want to do that. That's serious and those are actually good players on call preseason game and i demand my contract. I'm allowed. Let's say bad things okay so clean dourson. I got i got. I can't promise anything but i can reach out to some people because i know there's a format we can do this on. I did this last year with booth cast for for the <hes> fractured bearskin which was crazy to do it for because that ending but i will reach out and i'll see if i can get approval to do with ben. I'm just saying that we are very we have a lot of the podcast. We do a good job and i think we have a lot of people who listen to podcast which is a great honor and i'm not trying to stunt. I'm just saying that i think a lot of them within listen to our broadcast and i think that we would make funny jokes and i would have a good time. These are things that i think as long as long as i can get that audio file ellen dumped into the b._g._n. Feud i think we're good here so definitely check into that about i would love to call a game with you especially a preseason game where we can be silly not really care ideally the fourth preseason game <hes> the most meaningless of them are now a chance. There's even a starter on the exactly a love it ben. I think that's gonna do it for the kissing select show one nine you wanna say goodbye to the gentle listeners in thank them for tuning in for the super important preseason week one recap if you <hes> i if you go ahead and you just close your eyes for a second chapel listener you give a nice wefa breeze you smell. That's eagles football. It's back in the air baby. Welcome to the preseason twenty nineteen welcome to post game recaps on the kissing selection winners losers analysis up on dot com. You you bet your bottom. There's gonna be some film recaps up as well because there are at least seven significant place that talk about. I'm gonna watch every single one of them. Write about. We got takes deathshot movement. We got practices. We have a regrettable injuries but there are movers and shakers down the world of philadelphia football and it is a very very good thing. I am ben always on twitter at measurement so like he's mike as always on twitter at lucas n._f._l. That's k. i s. t. 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Brews & The 'Boys: Do the Cowboys have a championship roster?

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Brews & The 'Boys: Do the Cowboys have a championship roster?

"Welcome. Everybody to another edition of the bruise. Voice podcast produced by Hsi-wei media. Brought to you by SP nations. Blogging, the boys and the vox media podcast network. I'm Michael size more, you know, folks, you can find me on Twitter at Mr. Sizemore, and with me, as always he has the aren't Anderson to my RIC flair. He is the Walter Matthau to my Jack Lemmon. He is Tom rile, and we're just gonna get focused talking about the Dallas Cowboys. It's been a few weeks since we've been with you guys. But the Cowboys are getting ready set for their mini camp. They already have rookie minicamp and everything went well from what we gathered except for the fact that Mike Weber got a little dinged up. But they, they seem to think that that's going to be not, not such a big deal, but I wanted to get into contract talks Tom because guess it's been contract. Doc all off season long. So what do you think about the Cowboys contracts right now and mover specifically those for extensions for deck Prescott Amari Cooper, Zeke Elliott? Well. I think that the Elliott one is kinda going to be after they look at interest got I felt all along partly because it got the fifth year option to work with, and they don't have to have anything done. Now, this is just about being smart giving him done before the price tag goes up even more, you know, it's going to be expensive. That's just part of it right now, the Steven Jones kinda posh during trying to get them to maybe take a little bit less which I am not too sure that even really worth their time. They just need to start figuring out how they're going to do it. But the one thing this happened lately, as it were seeing another cycle just like we saw with, DeMarcus Lawrence, this is around Amari Cooper, their reports. It everything's that a deadlock nothing has happened on this. These are the exact kind of things were being said, during the DeMarcus Lawrence negotiations. And as it's turned out those were true at Nala were they not true, but they actually kind of created friction between the two sides, 'cause both sides thought the other side was leaking stuff. Yeah. I remember that. And I remember that it took the, you know, the Cowboys ended up talking to markets Lawrence's agent and kind of smoothing things over, because a lot of those reports were premature or false yet, and it shouldn't have happened. And, you know, we'll throw any names out here, but it's coming from the same source again. Yeah. The same people are talking about it. He can throw it out. I like the guy but it's Clarence hill, Clarence hill of the star telegram, Fort Worth Star-Telegram. It seems like he gets he digs really hard for this information. And when he digs really hard he will almost go is like. I think I think he also I think he hears what he wants can be a problem. And you, you see. You've seen it for years, you the reporters. Start being what's really going on. It's like wait a minute. How did you get from a to b doesn't make sense? But stopped on stop real quick. I'm gonna make this go forward. Okay. And, you know, the thing is Stephen Jones has a, a pretty good track record now of getting some contracts in place and taken care of and, and doing things with the team can handle without a problem. And I think it's just time that we need to relax and let the let the process work through these are going to happen. I think that we're going to see them get kuprin Prescott taken care of probably within the next two or three months Elliott. Maybe they may get another one or two thrown in there. The talked about having some initial discussions with Jalen Smith. But there's no pressure with him because he's a restricted free agent when his contract ends not of free unrestricted free agent slave got all the control. They need there. So. Yeah, I agree with you there. I just kind of think that. These things work themselves out. You know, these are contracts work themselves out know, it's always like that they're always going to have a little bit of back and forth before they worked out. But a lot of these deals like receiver quarterback. These are things that there are, there are the bones are in place, the skeletons in place. Yes. And you just kind of what you do is you kind of work to get that deal that you think your you know that player wants what he thinks believes in deserves. He's worth and you try to get close to that number. So that's kind of what I see here is going to be the same type of situation that they've had before. But I do think with the false reporting, it just kind of dilutes in muddies the waters a little bit, and what we're more specifically talking about is that with the mortar Cooper. But what we've heard about Amari Cooper? And Dak both is that both of them have said publicly that. They're gonna let their agents handle these things. So, yeah. So I think that there's there, there's a lot to when it comes to this stuff. If it's more for Cowboys fans, there's a lot to just need to nor. Yeah. Until it becomes reality. It's not. So that's been that's always been true. At least while I been following the Cowboys just is just such an over scrutinized situation. And there are a lot of people out there covering the team that are kind of competing to get the tension and sometimes people run with stuff that they shouldn't, and that's just, just keep that in mind. Don't panic until something concrete happens moving on. I wanted to talk about the energy that I think that is around this Cowboys team most draft post for agency. I think we saw the Cowboys, I wrote about this on, on blogging. The boys, I know you've written about it as well. But I, I really am impressed. With how they built the roster this year, and in not just I'm impressed with the fact that how they built the roster better than years past, but still stuck to their principles as far as spending money in free agency, and how they go out about the draft in everything. And I just feel like when you look at this Cowboys team that it feels like a more balanced. One of the more balanced teams we've seen from them in probably since the beginning of the Tony Romo era will, it's the faith is to, to get to this point. It's not a quick process. You know there are a lot of teams that have tried to get there with the big dive into free agency and stuff, you know, and, or the, you know, semi tanking thing. And then try to capitalize on some, you know high draft picks. The Cowboys have taken a much longer approach with the, you know, careful spending and free agency. Some. A little bit too careful. But this year, they seem to have been a little more willing to go out at least with the trades and get some more talent for the team and building a lot of draft picks. They've got a lot of homegrown talent that they're now having the figure out how to pay, which is a good problem to have. Yeah. And I think that they Tom like you go back to that free agency. But I think that the Cowboys, they learned how to manipulate free agency, the right way. I think in the past the Cowboys just went after those bargain bin free agency, didn't ever really kind of step out and go looking at day. Would you know you've checked the tire pressure on a couple of guys? But everything enrich, everything was rich for them. But this year, you know, with going out and getting the guys that they did they, they still used free agency, but they signed guys like that were a step above the talent levels that they used to go in after. Yeah. Guys that fit their system. Yes, you know, and that the coaches seem to have a plan to use, and they're also bring them all in as one year hires. Yes. So that doesn't have New England made famous and that Jenner taking advantage of but they're still committed. And like I said they are still committed to their philosophy. They still they ranked thirty first and free agency spending. They ranked thirty second in guarantees, which is even more than they only guaranteed eight point two million dollars. All of that, I think is pretty much to Robert Clinton. So I mean, and they traded for him. But it still counts on that spot on their contracts here. They cameras. I feel like you know, they re signed to Mark Lawrence, that was the first thing that they had to do, but they ended up getting Randall Cobb and also take on Austin back for the pro for, you know, well under the price, they would pay for Kobe's -ly. Georgia loca, you know, he's just, he's going to be battling out with, with Jeff heath but I still feel like the Christian covington's Kerry Hyder Georgia loca those guys have more impact potential than free agents of the past. Yes. And, and then they go into the draft and try to go impact as well by getting tristen hill in those Connor McGovern. Those top three picks gal love McGovern. Yes. Exactly. And get some more juice on the offense with Paul. And so that kind of brings us to this offense of talk county more. You know, people are watching a lot of videos from the mothership and Kellen Moore has had one inch where he was talking about just philosophies on offense. And how they don't have to change a lot necessarily to get better. They just have to be. They just have to be a little bit more open minded in, in tweaking view things and just getting the right talent. And putting him in the right position to succeed the law concern when Moore was promoted was whether he was going to be able to come in and do anything with when the team wasn't changing the basic philosophy that Jason Garrett has been the architect of. Yeah. But you have to remember the Garrett at times has gone with a very pass and trick approach. He his to me, my reputational what he wants to go Liz, the streets, the team grows from your line. Yeah. Particularly on office, and they built the line now and just built the line. They have the best depth as well. I think there's, you know, they were talking last year, Tom. And I think agreed with me how the offense of line in the NFL has kind of become a real coveted spot. And there's not a lot. There's not extra talent to go around and the Cowboys. You got your all pros. Yeah that's that's perfect. But then you have the guys behind them. I think could start on other teams they several of started for the Cowboys inch last season. And, you know, one of them executor of soa feel, oh, may not even make this roster Pitic on how many linemen they carry, you know, you've got Cam Fleming, who came in, he's not going to be a star, but he is a solid backup Joe looney did yeoman work, but he not Travis Frederick got Frederick back. Now looney can go back to being a backup. You've got Khanna McGovern to add to the mix. And you know, you've got a couple of undrafted free agents that, you know, they may want to have to keep an eye on in a Mitch Hiatt and Brandon Knight. Mitch. Mitch. And there are some, the say that night may actually have higher ceiling. Well, he's, he's just got a freakish athletic Yahoo file. So that's kind of why they look at him but Mitch Hyatt I mean you're talking about I think you and I've already talked about this. This is probably your future. Swing tackle next year, if you lose people in free agency. Yeah. But what I what I'm saying is, I think Joe looney. I think Joe looney is good enough to start on another team. I think that well all lot of team. Yeah. Save your Suo Philo ca start on another team. Connor McGovern could definitely start on another team. Even there's a lot of places that he would think he would walk in and will become a day one starter. And I just really kind of surprising that they got him in the third round. So, yeah, they've got a lot at the roster building has kind of I get in trouble because I've been calling it a masterclass, but I've been I guess, people aren't getting what I'm what I'm breath. Freezing there. But I'm saying over like you said, it's not just a one year thing they've been doing this for years. And now there's a lot of decisions that they are ridiculed in the past for that are starting to pay off Jalen Smith. I mean that was an credible decision. A very bold decision I should say a couple years ago, and that's that was one where they, they put their money down on the table and it wild to pay off Vander ash. Yeah. Upset about that pick. Yeah. That's why I'm that's why you kind of sometimes you want to say. Well, let's give it a little bit and sell things develop because he was he was proof that, you know, by all, what good is getting a linebacker. Well, guess what? It may. Save the season. When you know Shaw Lee had injury problems again and I love the approach. They're taking now, move and lead to the starting Sam, so that he's maybe only going to be out there on a little bit of muscle. Yeah. Put him out there like forty fifty percent of the snaps stood of every snap. Maybe he can last through the season and I just, I kinda wanna see what happens when they've got that tree on the field all at once, because those are three guys that will that can diagnose place, lease just a general out there. That's why gets the nickname is because he commands what goes on knows what the offense is doing and they all will just fly to the ball. And also, Chris Rashard Chris Rashard has always talked about wanting to use, you know, three three linebackers and he used to use it a lot in Seattle. And I think he's going to get that opportunity to do it again this year. And Now, Sean Lee is hoping to just he wants to come back and show that he was not as rusty as he was at the at the end of last year. And how he looked like he lost his step. But Nikki argues. That he was the best linebacker in the playoff game, which is true because they all kind of had a bad bad day. Sean Lee have nearly as much problems, and they also all three or not bad in coverage which is important in the NFL today. Yeah. That's true. And so you've got, you know, you've got both lines. I think have more depth than we say, I don't know how many defensive lineman they can keep because they have the looking at the people they've got on paper. At least there's like thirteen or fourteen of them, make an NFL roster. And. List how? Yeah. I guarantee you the teams are going to come calling. Yeah, but I, I to say this last thing. But now, the, the hints are coming out that the NFL was about take a real step back on the marijuana issue. And you know, who that could have a huge impact for Randall of Gregory is, if Randy Gregory is allowed to come back in may. And I'm just gonna what just can't wait to see them turn that pass. Rush Lewis yet, I honestly pass rush. You know what, let's take a break grit, and then we'll come back. We'll talk about the pass rush. We'll be right back on the Bruce voice podcast. And we are back on the boys podcast at Tom rile BTV, I'm at Mr. Sizemore. We were just about to talk about the pass rush talking about the Cowboys roster building and just looking through the entire roster right now. An overview of what they've done this offseason you talk about the pass rush. If Randy Gregory is able to get re reinstated into the league which it seems like the Cowboys are kind of gearing towards it or the way that they are acting suggests that something might become down the pipeline about the NFL Shawna. They're certainly not pessimistic. No. There's not pessimistic. But then you're talking about having DeMarcus Lawrence. He's a pro baller all pro. Having Robert Quinn. He was a former all pro pro bowler having brandy Gregory up a guy that when he has been able to play has been super disruptive. I think was on the upward trajectory last year. It really well had six sacks. Was it six? Right. I remember, maybe it was five or six sacks. But you look at just the depth that they build their Tyrone Crawford, despite his issues going on there. He eventually will you know, even if he is suspended probably would only be for one game. He would be back into that, that that rotation. I feel like this is the year that rod Maranello finally got his rotation that he's always been looking for. And that's why when they go into the draft they go and try to get, you know, Tristan hill, because they want quit quick foot twitchy, type of defensive tackle to pair with Collins. But I think this past Russia's going to be really ferocious. Yes. And that's needed today's NFL. Yeah. I think it's I think we'll be very, very pleased to see what they, they, they put on the field with this. And you know, the that fits in with the whole overall Garrett approach build in the trenches while. This is the best. I've looked on both sides of the line of scrimmage in a while new, so it's ill that that's that's the key. And that's kind of word it starts you, you, you know, you protect your passer, you open up lanes for running back and all of a sudden, you got the ability to be unpredictable, because you're good in both facets of the game eve, protect that Prescott a little better. He has the ability to make, you know, make the place. The people want to argue that. Well, there some he doesn't do so. Well, he gets bad footwork, and all that they got John kidney. And who I think is going to help a lot with the footwork. And with his technique, I love John said about you don't have to throw that interception. I threw it for you. Don't have to worry. We don't make that read. That's not where we wanna go with the way. I just love the way that he approached that he's talked about a lot of things. He's trying to teach these young quarter. Bax that. Hey, trust. Trust me. I've been there. I've thrown that pick so you don't have to do that, so that I think is going to allow more. You know it's like when when he calls a play. The odds of working correctly are much better when your offense of line, it's clicking as the loss of Travis Frederick was huge last year. Looney did great work filling in but he was a fill in. He wasn't the answer and Frederick is back at a high percentage of what he was before. He got he, he was diagnosed with again Barr syndrome. Yeah. He that is just going to be huge. You got Connor Williams who's back and look a lot bulked up. You know, he's gone little incredible hulk on them. I think Shali asked him what he was eating because he wanted a little bit too. Yeah, I have. You know. Suddenly this distorts to, to, to look like we could see a return to what the Cowboys had for three or four years when they were the best line of the league. And if they've got that back then all of a sudden, you don't have to worry about people may be able to stuff the box because, you know, first of you can win one on one of front. Now, you have more come in, if he doesn't give them the tells that Lynn ahead did so that the teams no one to stack the box and knowing that not too, when he if he can confuse that bad is his big job to help with the plays not to come up with new plays was brilliant things. But to take the place the Cowboys have end. Use them at the right times in the right ways. Yeah. In not too. I guess I think Kelly Moore can do a lot for this this offense. If he and just do a lot for the coaching staff if he is willing to. Which we hear he's taking command but also tell Jason Garrett. Tell everyone that he's involved with that. Hey, let's not do what we did a lot last year running our heads into a brick wall. Okay. Something's not working. We need to move and try to fix that. We cannot just continue to stay in one lane and say, this is what we do best. So we have to do it this way, or no way. I think that I think the Kellen Moore is a little bit more open minded to how how best to use our. You know, our superstars that we have on this team when things are not working the right way. I wanna I wanna put a different take on it. I don't think that is what he has the freedom to do. I think he was told that is his job. Yes. Because I think the Frederick with Linda hands play calling and running into that brick wall time and time again is part of while in the hand was terminated. Yeah. And that Moore as his the one thing he has to do is be able to go out there and do something that the other team is prepared for. Yeah. Exactly in. That's you. I don't wanna hear any team like Idi opponents this year's coming out and saying, will we know exactly what they're gonna do that kind of stuff was embarrassing little bit last year. Now, whether how much they did know then how much they were able to, you know, handle that it was mostly people that would come out and say those things where people that beat the Cowboys. So let's not act like everybody knew how to do it because the Cowboys lost six games not. Yeah. You know, but I wanna see I guess what is important to me. Tom said, I think what has been the troubled situation for the Dallas. Cowboys organization over the last twenty years has been the ability to build on successful seasons. If you look at it, you, you go back to even back to Tony Romo. Days, they, they made the playoffs, you know, trying to make the playoffs in back to back seasons has been something they haven't done over a decade just yet. They gotta figure out how to say, okay we were good last year. Let's build on that, and be better not say we were good last year were good enough to go again, this year, I build, you gotta constantly build involved in change in this NFL, if not you're gonna get passed up and I'd feel like the Cowboys, you gotta look at the success there in the last three years of you're looking at the three year windows of this franchise, the Cowboys last years is up there with the best Cowboys teams in history being able to win games. But now it's time to take that next step. Can you got to be able to Wim Emam January? Yeah. Get to a ship game. And I you know. A really. Really think this is year where they have tried to keep building because it it's kind of wound up having both things that they needed. They had success last year. They got to win a playoff game, which was good. You know, that's always a confidence builder for everyone. When you go out win a playoff game, but they also had obvious things they needed to fix. It's not like what we consider our laurels is, like, yeah. While we managed to get there. But by gosh, we had to overcome this, and this, we need to fix that going in. Yeah. I think what happened at the end of the last ten games or so of last year that, that triumph that they had, I think that that built a lot inside each man on that football team. I think that they have they are starting to, they saw a lot of adversity last year and coming back and doing that they know now that they are capable of it. That they are capable of being really a really good football team. They have the depth chart that would suggest they are one of the more legitimate contenders in the NFL. There's not there's not a pro bowler at every spot or anything like that. But there's pro bowlers at lots of, and they've got they've got a really good. I remember seeing did you see the charts that were up from pro football focus about every player that scored over ninety I think on each roster. They had. Yeah. And I think like the raiders had zero and it was somebody is the giants had a psych one Barclays. It thank Washington had one guy may be, you know, it's had how many five or six crazy, the absolute, and one of them is Tarrant Smith is a great article up on the athlete by Bob stern for those that have access talking about the fact that people are worried. Access slide into my DAM. But the Tyron just really was still very good last year now and, and stern brought up the fact that everybody's worried about how, but he's actually only missed two games at a stretch due to injury. He never like he's come back. He's comeback played when he probably shouldn't but he managed to get out there. And he still better than most left tackles in the league in even when he's hampered with his steamers, or other issues, and I in the they were talking. I heard some other guys right talking on podcast about how banged up he ends lie. L in other guys were in that Seahawks game in how they just did not let it affect them. They, they had that will to win. And you talk about the deck Prescott did last year and that third and fifteen play is a perfect example of it against the Seahawks. Just willing yourself to victory. I think that's a lot of guys on that team. Did that time Smith played their lot to stay on the field and keep his team in contention in? That's what we wanna see wanna see them build on that because I don't wanna see, you know, the two thousand seven to two thousand eight Cowboys, they come out. They do a lot in the offseason. They look like they have a pretty stacked roster. And then they just crap the bed in two thousand year. I, I don't wanna see that. I wanna see. I wanna see a better overall team. I wanna see the Cowboys. To be successful and use all the stuff that they did this season to motivate them to say, listen, we went through all this work because the coaches have pretty much been given no excuse. At this point now, there's now, the, what the front office has done in their part of that has kind of taken a lot of that away that ability to say, well, you know, we didn't have this or that other than freak accidents like an injury or something. That's all you can really, really expect. I want to see the Cowboys take the next step because they do have a roster that can contend. Yeah. Something that should warm your hearts as we are speaking OTA's or going on. Yep. And, and there's a video just popped up on Twitter of Travis Frederick. Snapping the ball to deck Prescott. It's beautiful. I cried. Kidding. I kid but yeah, it's beautiful. So that's really all we got to say today about the Cowboys just wanna see them. That's really what I want. I just want to see them take that next step build on last year. You've done such a mazing job in the off-season building this roster strong as you can get it now. Let's see what happens on the field. We got a long time before that. But we'll be back in your ears and about a week, we want to thank you guys. Listen to the Bruce and the boys podcast. Fisher podcast of logging boys espionage in through the vox media podcast network inch way media. He is Tom rile. You can find Tom Robbie to be you can find me at Mr. Sizemore follow us at blogging. The boys dot com and, and the boys we will check you later. Cowboys nation. Brews, in the boys is produced by Shwain media, and hosted by Michael Sizemore in Tom rile. For more, visit brews and the boys dot com.

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The Ocho: Cowboys/Texans Postgame Show

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The Ocho: Cowboys/Texans Postgame Show

"Nona what up world welcome to another episode of the ocho presented you in partnership <unk> as always with s._p._n. Nations blogging the boys dot com. My name are joe paolino me of course from d._t._b. And from right here as you're humble host on the ocho it is saturday saturday night august twenty fourth two thousand nineteen. This is the official post game show for the dallas cowboys preseason w they got that win against the houston texans ends on saturday night thirty four to zip thirty. Four mines have ryan williams <hes> we'll get that the cowboys were impressive on saturday night and we're going to talk talked about it. That's what we're here to do. Hopefully you saturday was great. If you're listening to this on sunday hopefully <hes> you'll weekend's going well. We'll be back to normal with pods and everything starting monday morning with another episode of the joe. Make sure while i've got your attention you subscribe to the blog on the boys podcast feed wherever you get podcasts apple stitcher tune in radio radio spotify you are guaranteed to get at least one dallas cowboys related podcast every single day through the super bowl at the very least do the super wall. Do not want to hear that i mean. Do you not want to cowboys. That's why we're all here. We're going to get into some other things that are not cowboys related a huge thing. Obviously i don't think we could not talk about andrew lex retirement because it happened in the middle of this game but let's start right away and by the way depending on when you're listening to this if you are <hes> very early in god right here in the immediate moments of posting it it might not be up on blocking the boys dot com quite yet but i wrote winners and losers. I do this every week after a cowboys always five winners five losers and kind discuss who had a good game who didn't have a good game right and in thinking about this particular game that did not feel fair to the cowboys our because i could not come up with five losers i mean and sometimes it's a stretch you know you can come up with lose early etc but i didn't want to do that more importantly so i decided was we went with five five super winners and five normal winters because there was so much positive to take from this couch performance against the texans and i think that you know this so this is a big meal. You know it's kinda like ever go to like a barbecue restaurant and <hes> it's one of those places where you get all of the food on your plate and then you go pay. Ah you gotta you gotta gotta measure what you want and then they go and they weigh in they tell you how much it is this kind of like that because this game has to last status for two weeks because september is about two weeks away from now and we're not gonna get any real cowboys football next thursday <hes>. We all know that it's going. Maybe a light version of preseason football at that simply because you know it's the fourth the preseason you're taking every precaution in the book. You're not risking anything anything. We've we've seen the last of dak prescott and <hes> michael gallup and all the stars and the stars and even all the reserves. We've seen the last of them until the season opener against the new york giants so super winners from me. I mean you know there were a lot. It was difficult because when you win thirty four to nothing the cowboys scored seventeen points points in the first quarter they were fantastic. I'll say this. I think the player of the game the most valuable player the best performance for the dallas cowboys. Who do you think it was while you're listening. I'll give give you one second to answer. Who is your m._v._p. The cowboys game against the texans. That's interesting. Wow that's interesting. Take i don't know who it was but the answer is taco charlton and you know we're kind of living in a crazy world at that's what's going on with taco given the way his first two seasons where the cowboys have gone but taco geico to his credit has really shown up this preseason. I didn't really think taco didn't needing special when i was training camp for a week in oxnard but he has been donald. Honestly he's been hot boy. He's been everything that you want. A first round pick to be in his third year throughout this preseason will that translate to the regular season we you don't know and taco had a little bit of a limp entering the cowboys soccer mapping the game and said he was going to get an m._r._i. On that so certainly hoping all the best for taco charleston but i mean the dude balled out taco had multiple sacks forced a fumble fumble recovery and not just you know there was so much made about this and we talked. What about this game. Obviously my radio show on the on the saturday morning hangover on e._s._p._n. San antonio on this saturday this game was we talked about how the cowboys hadn't really faced a starting starting quarterback camp because you look at in they obviously didn't face jimmy garoppolo against san francisco forty niners and they didn't face jared goff into los angeles rams but they did face to shawn watson and and the houston texans offensive line is trash. I mean at the absolute best but still they faced a shawn watson. Taco charleston had his way with him. Not only the taco nocco heavily with him kerry hyder head with me. Collins had his way with him. The entire cowboys defensive line essentially all got a sack. I mean i'm being a little facetious. Che's but you get the point to cowboys were on fire defensively and the cowboys had multiple turnovers throughout this game too. I mean i mentioned the fumble attack charleston head. There was a fantastic antastic interception that c._j. Goodwin had in the first half donovan wilson had another great interception in the second half donovan wilson is forcing the cowboys to keep him he really is and i'm fighting texas aggie class at twenty twelve by the way that miami florida game was a disaster but it was glorious for college the football back it's awesome donna wilson forcing the cowboys to keep him and i don't know that they were necessarily against it. Not that there ever against keeping any player they wrap it. You get my point. I mean it was interesting because don donovan wilson has kicked georgia local off this team. Really is what it comes to and we've known that for a little while but it's really really firm. There's no question would rather have donna especially given the fact that he's on his rookie. Deal etc blah blah blah so donna wilson has balled out. He is on the fire. I had to go in college station so it's appropriate that the act would go but he bawled out c._j. Goodwin balled out and you know what special teams as a way that you get noticed and that was a big point of emphasis in my winners. You know article that i wrote at the site joe. Thomas was huge on special. Teams had a punt hunt block all by himself and then recovered it in the end zone for a touchdown c. J. goodwin has been a special teams star. So far this preseason i mean that's how you make rosters in in the n._f._l. You've got to be a stunt on special teams so they've been great but you know who else was great on special teams on saturday night cedrick wilson the hive for cedrick wilson has been strong wrong for a long time and this wide receiver. I know we're jumping all over the place but i mean it was a crazy game. You know what can you you win thirty four and there's a lot of fun to be had so assuming you know we're not super organized nice. Whatever but <hes> cedrick wilson was. I was gonna say fantastic but i don't know that i can say that. Cedrick wilson was very good. <hes> he finished with three catches and only thirty eighty seven yards but still it's really good hit four targets so talking to seventy five percent success there <hes> but he had a huge punt return and that's really notable. The cowboys are at this point. Look java johnson jalen guidon. Those are things are the pass at this point. The battle is between cedrick. Wilson and devon devon was the cowboys leading receiver again six catching seventy nine yards some big time ones some early ones i mean devon smith has been balling out this entire preseason and this isn't the usual unusual. Oh cowboys receivers ball out. We really want to keep him saying no no no. This is like he's actually balling out. He's actually playing really well. He's actually somebody who the cowboys need to really consider. You're keeping and so you look at the wide receiver room. Obviously you've got amari cooper michael brando commentator on austin. There's four. They really like noah brown. What's going to happen there. I don't know but noah brown on could be on the public's when the season begins that allows you to keep six dudes and also have both devon smith and cedrick wilson that seems like the most logical thing for the cowboys obviously n._f._l. Teams kind of you know i. I don't wanna say manipulate but i'll say play with their rosters especially when the season begins and sneak guys around i mean everybody remembers rico gathers being on. I r and you know you know how that can go. It kind of feels like that's a way for them to get a seventh wide receiver with only having six fifty three man roster. I think the devon smith and cedrick wilson have both shown enough to make this team and you know what i mean. Your cowboys receiver group is in pretty good shape. I was tweeted something out on on <hes> saturday morning. <hes> it was the clip of tony romo hitting the spin move on j._j. Watt during the touchdown from the two thousand fourteen game and i was thinking about this a year ago okay and maybe you don't feel super passionate about this. Maybe you want to disagree. That's fine but a year ago as the twenty eighteen season began part of the plan and was to feature terrance williams in terms of the dallas cowboys wide receivers that was part of the plan. I don't know that it was necessarily like a huge part of the plan but it was when you considered the plan for the cowboys receivers a year ago. Terrance williams was a big part of it and now he's not even in the n._f._l. It's really crazy when you consider just how it quickly time goes by and i guess the intellect is a great example of that. We'll get to that but i mean i'm telling you man there. Were so many winners from this game taco <music>. I'm mentioned obviously donovan wilson c._j. Goodwin joe thomas. I don't think we've mentioned kerry hyder yet. Kerry hyder is another diamond in the rough that will mcclay found in stephen jones found jerry jones. I mean you gotta give them all credit. Kerry hyder balled out and they've been born out all training camp and preseason to cowboys have so many defensive lineman. They have so so many defensive lineman. They're rich. I mean they really are rich and hop boys. Which is a fantastic problem to have. I mean you know i wrote about this game aim before it happened and i wrote five dudes. It really need to have a big game to kind of firm up their roster spots and taco was on that list and i think everybody understands why taco i did say this tacos made three men roster but a lot of people have thrown at the idea that maybe when robert quinn returns suspension that could kind of spell the end for taco in dallas especially. If somebody like kerry hyder really kind of takes a step forward. I don't know man. I don't know how you you part with these guys. I mean obviously you've got your top dogs and you've got your stars and demarcus lawrence and crawford and robert queen but taco looks good right now. Carry high looks good right now. Donuts armstrong looks good. Joe jackson looks good although his hurricanes didn't get that win i mean there are a lot of talented defensive ends on the dallas cowboys again. It's a very good problem to have but i don't know how your i don't know where you're trimming their. I i really we don't know and it's understandable how the cowboys could only carry three tight ends in two quarterbacks. Maybe three running backs because they're going to have to go deep in a lot of places because they have a lot of talented onto players speaking running back. Tony look good again. Six carries twenty six yards jordan look good seven carries twenty five yards. Join chun had an opportunity opportunity to really kind of make some noise had a touchdown receiving sounded cadre mike white we'll talk about him shortly but darius jackson look good alfred in morris got in the end zone. I i tell you if the cowboys running backs if they're running back group in the regular season is zeke elliott. Tony pollard alfred morris. That's really solid. That's really really really sad because you have a superstar. You have a really promising sort of change of pace alternative player and tony pollard and you have a guy. That is the best possible all insurance. You can have a veteran. Who's been there done that you know understands. The way it works understands the public side of all this and being a cowboy being in the n._f._l. Being are pro baller etc and alfred morris. If that's your room with a solid coach gary brown dude i mean i don't you can't design a better room. You really can't people will point point to alvin kamara and mark ingram over recent years and hopefully the cowboys used both zeke antonia pollard throughout the regular season assuming zeke returns but the cowboys always runners man the cowboys runners look good. Mike weber's kinda the forgotten man. Maybe he's a practice squad guy. I mean you know bo scarbrough didn't make this team team year ago right. I mean so. I don't know why anybody really got their hopes. Have about mike weber. I think it is kinda. The bow scarborough effect and that he you know he goes to went to college. Is it allows people watch a lot of college football from and you know they they see him there and they learn him there and they understand him from there but it kind of felt like an uphill battle all along for for mike weber especially flee when alfred morris guy back in the fold but i digress <hes> another winner from this game cooper rush cooper rush cooper rash cooper goodman fifteen at twenty ninety five bucks seventy three you know cooper. I think we already knew we already thought we'd already sort of established. He's he's this team's backup quarterback right <hes> <hes> but he really kind of earned that job right i mean he earned that job which means a lot of things and i wanna get into them but before we do. We need to take a quick break for a message from our sponsors. 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The person who had the worst first half of all players on the dallas cowboys was mike white and he didn't even play and he had a horrible first half because as much as cooper had already separated himself from mike in the backup quarterback conversation he just did so even more in the first half and i'll say this mike why didn't play terrible in the second half he really didn't he threw a touchdown. He went six of nine for fifty six yards. That's not bat. I mean my quiet played kind of typical normal preseason football. That's kind of what you expect to see in the third preseason game when you know from your third quarterback wreck whatever he had that kind of game and i'm not bragging about that but he hadn't even had that quality game since when i mean when have we ever seen mike white look that functional and i'm not saying that even looked supremely functional. I'm saying that win. Have we ever seen mike white. Look like that and the answer is pretty rarely and so. I think they're mike white played played better than he has which is notable but it's still probably not enough. I i don't know especially you know we mentioned. You're going to have to go deep in a lot of places. I don't know how you you keep mike white on this team. I truly don't because there's just more talented football players to keep around and so that's kind of where you're at so cooper. Rush looked really great. I tell you what another concern that a lot of people have had is brett. Maher brett maher has been a point of concern understandably so brett it certainly has had moments that are troubling and their cost trepidation he's struggled from the right hash and he had the big myths last week in honolulu and a lot of people chalk that up to its specific wind etc blah blah. There was no excuse tonight or saturday night. Excuse me there's no excuse saturday night because you were inside at eighteen stadium. Everything should have gone away and i tell you what he got. Plenty of practice with the cowboys scoring so much he had six total kicked four extra points to field goals made made them all made them all brett maher made all six of his attempts in my saying that that means you can sleep a lot. What is your when it comes to brett maher kick and feel those. I don't know maybe you can. I mean maybe maybe you truly can this. This is at the very least movement in a positive direction for brett maher is it's still fair to feel a sense of unease. Totally i mean you know he's an eighty percent kicker in terms of his n._f._l. Career is is you know young as that is but fought. This is improvement and i think that that's notable bread has certainly improved now. The question becomes okay our jail. What about that pacific win. I mean the couch they gotta play games outdoors doors this season. They've got to go to philadelphia in december. I gotta go to chicago on december. What if they have to go to a playoff game in green bay. Who knows i mean that's kinda shaky yeah. That's a fair point. I'm not going to dispute that. It's a fair point but it's worth saying it's actually it should be said that brett maher kind of delivered on saturday night he delivered in the sense that his number was called. He had to make six different kicks and i should note that he really leaned left hatch a left hash. Excuse me on the extra points. I've said this before and it sounds like argonne. Picky on extra points. Kickers can choose they wanna go middle right or left hash and brett maher more often than not chooses to go from the left hash why why is that significant because he has an issue from the right hash so you know it's not a big deal. I guess it's kind of a big deal. I mean how you know it depends on the mood. You're i suppose he always chooses to go left hash and if he's making cookies making kicks but ideally you know there wouldn't be any hash mark that he sensed against <hes> trepidation whatsoever but so braemar look good. I struggle. I really do struggle and i'm. I don't think i'm drinking kool aid. I don't think it's any sort of prisoner. The moment sort of thing then i struggled to come up with the dallas cowboys player who played poorly against you know the houston texans it's hard. I can find a lot of texans that played bad <hes> but i struggle struggle to find what you michael. Gallup looked starman. Michael gal looks so good. He looks like he is going to take a leap and it's such a cliche shea thing to say this time of year but he looks like a rock star. He had that fantastic play that was called back because the holden penalty on connor williams not not ideal but michael gal looks good man and it's fun to imagine an offensive features amari cooper michael gallup zeke elliott tony pollard randall lacob jason witten doing his thing the cowboys offensive line and dak prescott however much you and arjun about that's up to you but there's talent on this team then there's a lot of reason. I believe that they're gonna do something special. Come two thousand nine hundred regular season and we're so close for about two weeks away and this was this was really the best dress rehearsal that the cowboys always could possibly have hoped for. I mean everything everything went well. Everything went right. Everything went according to plan and how often does that happen in a preseason game very very very rarely <hes> so good for the cowboys <hes> good for all of us. It's fine and <hes> hopefully. It's a sign of good things to come <hes> lastly. Obviously i think you know this is a cowboys podcast feed and by the way subscribe but we have to talk about injured lock right that that news broke during the game. I'm andrew log. Indianapolis colts quarterback retiring at the young age of twenty nine. Obviously angela has battled injuries in has had a you know really tough go about that of the last four years with the indianapolis colts missed all the two thousand seventeen season and man i mean i'm twenty nine years old old for a peek behind the curtain and so i think you know if you're at the very least twenty nine or older. I think it's a weird feeling when it's a weird feeling at first i remember one andrew relucant robert griffin. The third guy drafted twenty twelve. It's a weird feeling when you're like oh that dude's my age and he's a quarterback in the national football league. I know you think think about like i couldn't do. There's no way like that's so that seems so difficult. I couldn't handle all that and so now it's like oh wow now he's retiring. He played his whole whole career and so it's a really sort of stark moment in life. Angela is one of the best quarterbacks. I think you know that's overplayed in my lifetime so talented. Everybody thought he was going to be you know this this this next then he was going to be the guy i mean indianapolis colts went from peyton manning the him twenty one seasons from in terms of peyton to andrew one super bowl. It just shows how hard it is to win. When it's so difficult people point out obviously z. brett farve and aaron rodgers that air for green bay. They've only got to show for. It is so difficult to win a super bowl and it's so difficult to kind of put up with things when you you're not right when you buy is not right when you're fighting when things are are uncomfortable when things are awkward when things are frustrating for you and that's what andrew luck has been dealing with then. I think you know rappaport. The beneficial network reported that angel wants to travel the world. He's always been a really bright in a stupid person. Obviously coming out of stanford while educated and you know well raised. This is dad. Obviously you're on the x._f._l. All the best angela c'mon all the best. Thanks for the good times. Thanks for the great games. I mean we're all cowboys. Cowboys fans right we all. We all want to see the couch dwell but we also all love football. We also really love football. Games and football players and andrew lock played football. I i mean the i'll never forget the twenty four team division around when they beat the broncos and made it to the championship game obviously that led to the deflategate stuff but i mean that was stunning when when they beat the broncos that was really truly stunning andrew lock was obese man he was a warrior in terms of his playing career and i hope he has a fantastic task retirement. I'm sure whatever he does. He will be a star because that's kind of who andrew luck this but <hes> but yeah that about does it for our post game show so <hes> enjoy your your sunday <hes> whenever you're listening to this and we'll be back with another episode of joe live monday morning and subscribe like i said subscribe to the podcast feed we are one of the only podcast podcast networks in terms of dallas cowboys that gives you a two time superbowl champion on their roster. Tony casillas has a show here on the block of the worst podcast. You get a twice twice a week. You get you get losing the boys. You get an episode of the ocho every single day. It's officially football season man. I'm so i'm so excited and i'm so hungry because the cowboys game went along we went to sandra bullock thing. I'm gonna go make some chicken tacos. I don't care what time it is. Hopefully you whatever you are eating eight today. It is delicious cowboys one. 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AP Laboratory - Weekly Chiefs mailbag - part 1 (Ep. 120)

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AP Laboratory - Weekly Chiefs mailbag - part 1 (Ep. 120)

"People do amazing things every day and yet most of us feel like we can't do our taxes ourselves it doesn't make any sense. Turbo tax believes that with the right tools. Encouragement people can do anything. Yes even taxes and with turbo tax live you have access to. CPA's on demand. Dan Who are available even on nights begins to answer your questions or give you advice to help. Make sure you do your taxes right and get your best possible refund turbo tax. All people are tax. People what's up everybody. Thanks for joining us today. My Name's Kids Ed. Swanson the AP Laboratory. It's a mailbag edition. Actually do things a little bit differently this week. You're going to get the three eighty Labra episodes. You'RE GONNA get to mailbags because because there's so many questions that we wanted to split them all up and make sure we covered as as because we're GONNA do two episodes and then we'll do it a little bit another one later in the week. Not Not not a mailbag. Just us taking what we WANNA talk about butts. We got a lot to cover today and here to help me cover everything. I fight him on twitter at chief in Carolina Philo Fan of a super bowl champion. Matthew Lane hello my fellow champion. Hello Kit when I woke up this morning fans of the world champion Kansas City. She Glorious I actually got all the way through the. NFL films. miked up the video today that kind of sit through the whole roller coaster promotions again despite knowing what was coming and it was phenomenal. Everything about that video is crazy. But if you just want to relive we live the emotions in only forty minutes instead of a whole like eighteen hours pure agony. Go ahead and watch that instead. I Know Arthur Powell here Craig southbound on twitter barley hop I think also had time to watch the NFL films. Mike Thank today Oh baby. I'm an approach everything in life with the confidence and aggression. Frank Ain't Clark approaches everything. The my man talks so much to Everyb- I love it so much much. I love him so much. I had undying low for him before. I watched the Mike the video but watching him. Yell at Jimmy Garoppolo so the amount of money he's making and yelling at him about handing the ball off was wonderful. Wonder Tiller Ref. That dude blocking him was soft head to grab the REF's attention to let him know that that dude was softened. I love his energy so much. Adopting debt is my new energy the different personalities were great. Like you had car talk nonstop smack you tired. Matthew clearly berry intensive focus the whole time but much more subdued like from what they showed. Obviously we see a lot more Travis Kelsey was probably on the same emotional vendor ever was like he was in it he was out of a he was up and down like crazy and then mahomes was probably closer. Fred Right Clark wasn't really talking trash. But he had that same level of excitement and confidence but it was really cool. Seeing everybody's headed different approach to the game you got to pick up so much different stuff homeside ones the best I love I was GonNa say the best part was frank. Clark versus George kiddle blocking and it's a stretch trudge play well away from Frank Clark and frank gets inside of him trying to chase down. The play has no business. You can't get to the play. Not a big deal. Turns around and starts yelling at George George kiddle about being unable to block. George just goes. You didn't make the tackle that he confused as to why Frank Clark is yelling at him I liked. I liked to compare what Patrick mahomes actually said to how it looked because it looked like during that. Run where it was it. Was it Jakubowski Tar that. He ran over guitar. Tim Ewart sorry. It was Jimmy Ward watching it in in real life. It looked like he was just hanging over Jimmy Ward's talking but actually he was just like he looked like he had so I but he was really like that's a great hit. Good Job Nice. I like the juxtaposition of was real. And what actually happened. I was a little bit disappointed. I thought he had like some Hashtag championship swagger which is like and We're actually the the is the stuff that the stuff that you thought. He was going to say he said it on the way out. You can't he'd be down here. You can't hit me hit me. Try me like all that stuff. That's what I thought. He was saying Jimmy War would happen but no he was kind of like an Andrew Luck route almost I ah yeah he did. He did all that. After running in the touchdown he got all of the hit me. You can't stop me stuff out of the way that he definitely didn't do it on the field. That is what they go back. I love the George Rich Kid. Frank Clark thing it was like your pure wwf wrestler you'll versus like ultimate perfect. Good Guy George. Kindle was just so confused by all afraid Clark Court dates in the best part was started like they did it. Show a lot of freight corks dominant Rep. So it looked like he was just talking trash out of nowhere and they got to kind of in the second gaff but if you could tell George kill no idea what was happening and it made it all work. Better Georgia kittles boring. I said it. I was not entertained by him at all he was talking. There's a couple of things that I will be back. You Mark my words that was one hundred percent because he was miked up. Like George kittle all in week. Sixteen isn't like saying something like that to himself. You know who these guys next year. He's not saying that he is doing that because he's biked up you don't know that he could have the. Jj what Kinney Willingness Energy No that is the JJ watt energy that is sitting on a tire dancing and singing in fort minor during HBO. Because you know cameras are there like that's the whole thing. We got to fix this. George George I want some real honest moments from you my friend and it just seemed a little disingenuous. And you're gonNA I mean you lost the Super Bowl too so it's been a rough week for you. Let's let's go ahead and start jumping in these questions Russians. We've got a five star review question. I just liked. It is not much of an answer. Why did the music make me tear up? I think he's talking about the Super Bowl episode because it made me tear up to like that quite zero but I got a little bit emotional listening to the trump. It's right before the lab started. It was like Oh man. We're Chevy Woods. AP nerd squad edgy. MILL DOT COM. How's it feel to be a fan of the Super Bowl? Champion team still seems unreal to me. My question question. This week is regarding our Lizard King. Sammy Watkins say that. She can't work out a deal to restructure his contract in cut him. What do the cheese due to replace him? Thanks Tyler I think that with this draft class I think trying to attack it in a free agent manner. You've gotTa Find Somebody Eddie on the cheap. I think that getting the kind of production that you're going to get out of Sammy. Watkins is going to be difficult to find on the cheap. So I think maybe it'd be the better option here is to ride with some of the guys. You Got Byron pringles under contract. You've got McColl hardman. You've got some guys kind of in the mix a little bit. I would draft a guy trying to obtain a good weapon. I kind of sneakily put high up on the list of Sammy. Watkins not back because there is such such a good wide receiver class. I just maybe kind of target in that round two range for a guy that can come in and develop into that role that you're not having to pay you know sixteen sixteen seventeen eighteen million dollars guys were thinking way too hard about this. Byron Byron Pringle bartering all sides into more the demarcus Robinson. Roy also you will still need to replace Santa Walk. It's which means you need this kind of Legitimate X.. Receiver Guide lineup. On the line of scrimmage to be press coverage to go over the middle of the field and for any read that guy still have to have a little bit of a vertical presence so so you can't just get to some tied incised guide put about expected to work. It's gotta be got a little bit of an athlete. This is why Cole Hartman doesn't fit that role. Disabled Co hard hard can't be the number two wide receiver terms production or anything. Just you need a true x receiver to be out on field. I think like Craig said you got some options. The second round of the draft. You might even get a good player that falls in the first round. If you're feeling pretty good about the moves it free agency that you've made or something that you can go but you do have to look for that Kazakhstan receiver at some point in time. We've seen it Sammy. Watkins plays a huge role in this team. You need to replace that style. Reflect not only the production but that style of play. If you WANNA keep adding success success what I think will be interesting as that first half of the season though because of how slow it takes. Andy Reid. Receivers typically typically to get onto the field as rookies that learning curve. How they navigate that first half the season makes me wonder if they're going to try to bring in another receiver just is to kind of stabilize? Things alive crane goal. Maybe someone that's L.. Maybe by pringle. Maybe that's IT Eric Asks I've read that. We can roll over Twenty Mil roll over twenty million in space that we didn't use in two thousand nineteen is that the case and if so how do we only have sixteen million of CAV's gays to us in twenty twenty so currently the cheese. He's have roughly sixteen million dollars some around there and it's actually all the rollover I don't I don't think it's actually twenty million. I believe bearcat is kind of been on some of those numbers as far as how much can actually be roll. Roll Rollover At chief underscore bearcat came out. 'cause he's awesome. You probably already falling if you're listening to the show but I believe all of the current cap space really right now is just the rollover They didn't really bring didn't really have any four twenty twenty. They can make some moves they can and get rid of Sammy Watkins to help make some more space for that kind of stuff to happen. So I don't think they have a ton of space right now as we're talking let's she'll behavior the twitter questions now now country boy five six seven. Our guy asks. What's a realistic offer for Chris Jones tagging trade scenario? We're GONNA THERE'S A. There's a lot up in the I know you you know Our Guy Matt Miller of bleacher report. He said that the chiefs are looking for a late first round pick for Chris Jones. I think that's probably about what the chiefs are asking for. They might be asking for somewhere in the twenty s the value of roughly. What they got for Frank Clark which I believe when when you did the math was the value of the twenty four th pick in the draft? I think realistically I think it's GonNa wind up being a the early day to pick an early segue round pick instant change. I honestly think that's kind of where I I. I would love a first round pick. I think that'd be great. I just don't know if that's GonNa ultimately be what they wound up getting for your member like with with with deformed I think they were trying to sit theirselves side tire and they wound up settling for a second round. Pick a year down the road. I think like Kim said there. You're looking at the Frank Frank Clark. kind of that's what you're wanting return is what you gave up to get. Frank Clark does probably start and my thing is I know the production at Chris. Johns was put out there especially since he he plays on the Interior. The defensive line a lot of people have pushed it should be higher than that. But I gotta take a walk or stuff in context with that kind of the attitude. The the Leadership or two setting the total defense part. That goes into it. I wonder if right Clark's knock. It has been seen as a little bit hotter commodity once. It finally gets time to bake this trade when Christians seen as much as the leader. But rather a piece which that's GonNa play a part because you've heard the chiefs talk about. They wanted to get a certain style of guy in there and freight Clark. It clearly played a role there. So I think you start asking that Frank Clark which I believe was around eight hundred points alone. Newer drafting values puts you in the early twenty two year. Old Can pick twenty one to twenty four somewhere in that range. You probably aren't going to get just a straightforward late round. Pick although Maybe you do. That seems like a team that just barely made the playoffs. WanNa make that trade to get a Chris Jones but you might have to settle for a package of pigs there all day two picks in the draft. I don't know if that's particularly a bad idea. I think some people looney In look at a realistic value is because criminals is getting more clawback. So he's not getting the number eight overall pick in the draft back in return. He's going to get closer to the freight clerk deal. I wouldn't be surprised if he gets better. But I think that's when you start with the asking price aright aright solely football asks. How mad are we that Anthony Hitchens contract means no more Chris Jones Mattie unfortunately sadly very bad because this did happen I do think as much as I said about Chris Jones I would obviously love him on the team if he is GonNa take sixteen to eighteen million dollars? What is it year by all means fired away? I think you could be forced to pay him that. Twenty two twenty two. And if you didn't have Anthony Hitches contract or some others you could probably make that work. I still think. It's a lot of money to invest defensive wide but if you could get out of Anthony Hitchens contract. Play Your Damian Wilson or a new linebacker instead and Chris Jones Jones. I think he probably made the RB. Yeah I do think you're kind of looking at it and Anthony Jones versus You know Chris Jones kind tennyson eighty hitches versus Chris Jones kind of situation. I do think that's kind of where we're at with this. I mean that's just anthony hitches the way they restructured his contract the way that they a set him up in here. There's no post June one available here at this point because there's no CBA like. I think there's a little bit more flexibility to move on from. I'm Anthony Hitchens if that's the case but he's pretty ingrained here so that means you're going to have to pay the price with potentially Chris. Jones probably moving on. I mean this is I think everybody everybody kind of relates Frank Clark Chris Jones as far as WHO's getting the contract who's getting the money and everything like that honestly it's Anthony Hitchens when they restructured. Anthony Hitchens agents. They kind of put themselves in the situation where they couldn't get out of the contract in the near future. That amount of money is basically what it's going to take four. Anthony Kris Jones to be able to sign for the first couple years here in Kansas City. And that's just not something that can happen now because of that an Anthony Hitchens contract now. They view Anthony Hitchens as kind of the leader. We've talked a lot about his ability to organize the defense and his ability to kind of they make everybody be on the same page upfront there but realistically Anthony Hitchens contract is locking demand to a lot of money at the linebacker position that they just can't get out of and that I think might be when push comes to shove one of the reasons why Chris Jones isn't going to be here next year maybe nate's NASC- H four seventy nine. Could McColl be better in a more zone based route scheme at an actual route tree run more into space than the precise route. That's generally how they used McColl this year. So I mean I'd say right now he's definitely better in that role his kind of biggest just real row is that is a post route where he has a nice kind of Bam step to fake. The corn cuts back inside. That's his most advanced route and he runs it very well. Besides is that he doesn't run a Lotta precise timing routes which is okay. He's developing receiver. I think the issue is. It's kind of hard to be just a zone based receiver when you're not because guy when you're not an EXERC- that can be physical win over the middle of the field with your size in like high pointing ability. I think it's hard to be that guy that is known to settle. Undertones be very good in that way and I think that kind of takes hardman out of his bread and butter which is getting deep you can excel the. NFL is just a deep threat. Will Fuller has a huge impact on the Houston Texans. He's essentially a deep threat or a bubble string kinda guide. Maybe the occasional deep comeback. There's routes from coal hard to be more useful full. Even though he doesn't advance its route tree. It's just a matter of how much you weren't just having focus on getting better at those things versus advanced into a full route tree but as far as ah the zone spacing. I think that's better for guys are a little bit bigger than he is. Yes I'd agree with that Matty said we'd we'd talk a little bit about McColl Hartman. Being wide receiver two and midway through the season there there was a lot of discussion about. He should get Sammy's reps at wide receiver like No. You've got to have that guy who can run those precise routes you've got to have that guy that can gain separation that can be a little bit more of a possession receiver and I do think that McColl Hartman. That's how he succeeds. AIDS is running into space finding stretch plays you know being able to kind of stretch. The defense in a way that other guys can't now tyreek Hill obviously is elite and fast and everything like that by by being able to line up Moco Hartman in slot or maybe opposite of tyreek Hill. You make teams have to play split. Safety looks if you can run. Go routes all day long. That helps lighten. The box. Helped move things in the center of the field. It just makes aches. You have to make a decision because you don't want to leave a guy that fast that can run like that in space too much space with Patrick mahomes behind center so I think that the way that they're using as good. I'd like to see him get a little bit. More on. The same page is pat but it really is a situation where I think that the way that they're implementing him is his his future in the league and it's not a bad future to be in I don't I don't think just you know having him fine spots autozone sit in spots and zones. I don't think that's GonNa play to his strengths like you don't want that being McColl Hardman's game and you want him running at full speed challenging threatening the defense vertically with his speed. That's the way for him to to have success in this league And if teams continue to pay a ton of attention to Tyreek Hill that could give him more opportunities. But he's I think he's gotta be He's gotTa be stretching he's gotta be up to full speed. You want him catching etching in the short game you. I'm catching drags you WANNA meet. You know staying at top speed. You want him to run. You know speed cuts trying to find routes where he can run speed cuts if we can really you work on a nice dig for him out of speed cut. That would be a valuable tool in his tool belt. Comebacks posts verticals. You got to be challenging with with those with with those with those speed. Routes Heath McLean. How much will player turnover on offense and defense effector ability to return to the AFC see championship Game Super Bowl? I don't think the turnover on this roster is going to affect this football team's ability to make a run again. I I think yes there are going to be some painful moments here. And it's going to be a turnover on some key players but I do think with the injection of young talent with the draft. I I think with Patrick mahomes getting another year here. I think anything is on the table as early as this year. I think that they can make a run and and I don't think the roster's completely bare neither. There's some spots that they're going to have to address but I think that they can make a run with about what they have right now because they have. Patrick Mahomes I think it depends almost entirely on how they replace the turnover. There is going to Fairmont turnover on the team but I think if they do it the right way. They should get the capital whether that's cash or draft capital two stakes those thieves and they can make the team better in other ways and yet might take to limit point of the season but the they'll figure it out next. I don't think this is going to be a super bowl team that misses the playoffs. And then once you're in the playoffs you Patrick Mahomes Travis Kelsey so on and so forth in. You'RE GONNA probably have a chance to make a run again. It's just a matter of making sure you hit if you spend a lot of money on one big inning three agent. That's Chris Chris Jones whether you go out and sign another high price fridge like Byron Jones the net and you have to be nearly perfect with your mid to low to your free agent signings. The guy's already the team with your limited draft fix so if you go that route just can't miss a single one and or you are going to run the risk of throwing the wrench. It's just a matter of how visha size to replenish punish the roster after some of these guys get lost see. I'm opposite of these guys. I think it will affect their ability to go to the AFC championship game in the Super Bowl. Because there's going to be more talent on this roster frankly. I think that they are going to have a better chance than they did. This season you know they. They went through a lot of adversity. They went through a lot of guys. They headed really reach back on their death a lot of times here but overall I don't think that the talent Alan Lovell this year is going to be as high as it is next year. I think they're going to make upgrades at cornerback. I think that they're going to address linebacker. I think that they're going to address the the offensive line. Obviously if they move on from Sammy Watkins and Chris Jones. That's going to hurt. But I think that they're going to make marginal additions to try and offset set some of those things so I think the some of everything is going to be a better more talented squad that fits what this you know what this team wants to do. Particularly with Steve's Bagnall on defense is really hard to rebuild the defendant in offseason and they certainly tried last year. Now you get to stack another one with this group of assistant assistant coaches with this new defensive coordinator here you get an idea. You're scouts get an idea of what those guys are looking for. I bet that the talent Alan level is going to be better fit better with. What Steve's Bag Nolan company to do so? I think that they've got a better chance to get back to where they were this year. Just just a quick reminder that Steve spagnolo typically has not utilized or coveted players like Chris Jones. Just remember that. He's a great player. But that's not typically been Steve spag knows Mo for players. Like that we're GonNa take a break and we will be back right after at this hour continuing answering your questions. We cut a lot. We're going to be doing to mailbags here this week. So we're going to start with this one ready aim lion asks WHO's the most logical fit not necessarily the best player to be drafted. It will linebacker considering during draft capital needed. Craig I'm going to take the one that these guys are both thinking of right now. ZAC Bond Wisconsin. I think that a good Patrick Queen can Murray are going to go. Hi Isaiah Simmons is going to go super high to you. Know he's more of a safety. Steve Steph's Lou has a type for linebacker. He likes heavier guys. He's not necessarily looking for the best most at most athletic. That guy out there but Zac bond is an athlete. He played it. Edge it Wisconsin. We got to see him. Play off ball senior bowl and frankly he looked really really comfortable in his zone drops. He looked very comfortable and coverage he looked comfortable reading between the tackles in the run game as well I would be more than happy you to address that position with Zach Bonn late in the draft. I there's been a lot of conversations about where he's going to go if he's there at thirty two and he. He is the best linebacker on the board. I wouldn't think twice about pulling the trigger on bond like Craig Album assume that Patrick Queen Kenneth Maria probably off the board he took by guys Zach. Mon- Bond I've been pushing this narrative and our group chats for a while. Now he's kind of becoming by the guy that I would like probably the most the first route at this point in time because of everything Craig said. That's okay I got it back up. Obviously Troy I out of Oregon. He's a little bit lighter than Baez. But you wouldn't tell by watch. He'll you'll step into a gap and he'll still a whole. He'll take on a polling blocker with his hands. He'll blow up right there the whole for relatively slider linebacker. He's got some power this ends. It's he may not be the best athlete. He's definitely along strider. She's not the quickest in terms of changing direction. But he's got a real good natural feel coverage he's made a ton of plays as low all throughout his career Oregon. He's probably one of the most decorated linebackers coverage coming out this year. Think he's a guy you could probably get at the end around to maybe even into route three sorry but he has that album nation of ability to stick his nose into an interior gap is well. He's is already good coverage he may be doesn't provide that top tier athleticism lettuces We as FANS WANNA see but I think that secondary to what spags wants versus the ability to seal interior gaps and then show some coverage ability. Thanks guys those. Were the two places I wanted to go. I'll just I'll just list off the four others that I like it the Indu around five I think like oh I'll just go with like a a day through kind of dive. I'll go with Evan Evans Tsk. I'll I'll go I'll go with Lucas and I think I think he's a marginal improvement from an athleticism standpoint from a coverage coverage standpoint from you know from from what they have at the will right now with Damon Wilson. I think he's an upgrade. I don't think he's like a massive upgrade but if you're looking being at a guy on day three that can at least improve the position to some effect I think he could be available potentially in the fourth round. That might be a guy you take a swing on and again. I don't think he's a major improvement from a coverage perspective from an essence perspective. All that stuff graver. Tanner asks. How does Martinez rankin making nick? Allegations and Greg not factor into the offensive line for twenty twenty. Are you looking for an upgrade to writer. Yes looking for an upgrade to Asta writer or any the musicians long interior. I'm okay was one of the position gets upgraded with an early draft. Bake or a free agent. I feel a lot better. I would look at us. Ryder I think centers the most. It's important of those three positions especially Andy uses them. I think we're Tina's rink. It's definitely in the driver's seat for a starting job. I think they liked what they saw. You've heard coaches talk about him. They seem to really like him and his play gap entered the more time. He got not doesn't do a lot for me. I think nick elevates in the mix but I like him more as a deaf guy in just play multiple positions in actually to throw out there Jackson bar offensive tackle. They kinda signed from the colts practice quietly. He's the guy to keep an eye on as your potential swing. Tackle it kind of takes over Cam Irving's role also. Kim Irving was a lot of fallen beside wide. Like I might keep him around just for fun. He is at the satellite. Yeah just let them play. Just don't let them play those guys in Matt. Mattie hit him all those guys. So here's the thing I I I think all those guys have a chance to. I think Grigson it has a chance to make this football team. I Agree Jackson. Barton has a chance to make this football team Martinez Rankin. I do believe Steve is a starter for this football team when they when they lineup week one. I think it's amazing that they got him for two more years. They've got three total years for a of him for Carlos. Hyde thanks bill. O'Brien see if you can fleece him for more things. Something that I do think is interesting. The chiefs have potentially eleven offensive lineman already ready on their ninety man for next year. They've got some familiarity. They've got some death they're going to have a large pool to pull from including whoever they wind up taking in free agency and in the draft as far as options at the offensive line. They've got a lot of good choices. There Peter why golf asked at the end of his career. Will Patrick Mahomes have more. MVP's AP's or statues of himself in Kansas City. Well he's already got a shrine in my backyard. So I mean there's one and then the one that's going to be outside Arrowhead he's going to have six. MVP's there's not gonna be any more statues chief boy are digi asks. which players do you think will make a developmental leap over over this off season on particularly excited to see Frank Clark can get anything out of the shot or at breeding speaks and possibly help motivate him to be the best version of himself? Even if it's just a rotational defensive lineman. I hope that happens to. I can hold out hope. But if there's anybody that can motivate a teammates probably Frank Clark. I got a couple of days here that I'm thinking about. I think I'm GonNa go with Reshad thin especially. I think he could start to eat into some reps the outside quarterback whether he's taken away some award award whoever they have across from I just like his feistiness out there. I think he looks a lot more comfortable. Sit outside corner. He plays a little bit of an edge at he. kind of fish really good. What spags Dave mayor are asking these guys so I think as long as he is the chance which I think he will earn? I think he'll be a guy that shows a lot of improvement from his rookie season. I'm going to go with one thornhill. We saw one coming on at the navy year. The Sky Goes Guy is the limit for one thornhill. We're going to see him. I'm being a better player. He's learned so much from tire and Matthew. The game started to slow down right at the end of the season for him. He talked about how things didn't seem so fast anymore. His ability to square up take the right angles. Read the ball in the air you know at the NFL level. That was coming coming to him right at the point that was taken from him. I expect him to work as hard as he possibly can to get back and be as healthy as he can. Good one thornhill even makes this a more drastic improvement on the defensive side of the ball. I'm excited to see what year two for one looks like. You're imagine if one thornhill takes that jump in Tired Matthew and hammer back there. Good luck and an in a an upgrade in town at cornerback for me guys are are are Tarez play Paler. What does he always say about the contract year? Your own defeated. It is undefeated. I see a guy who had a resurgence in his career. The year WHO's on a contract year next year. That's Tano Paseo. I think he finally found a niche. He finally found her role. He got a a lot of opportunity. He's got championship swagger now and he's now going to be playing for his money to sex in a in the AFC championship game. He's he's he's. He's made improvements over the over the entire season. I think he continues to ascend. I think he goes in earns his money MC reach. Would you expect a low profile running back signing Damien seems poised to be back next year but could the Backfield US another capable body examples Austin or Kenyan drake. I mean we actually got this question from Donnie couch via the email as well about Matt Brita looking for Alot signing I know Matt brought up at Breda last week I would expect that they they might address it and that might be the only spot that they they do now if they find a guy that falls late in the draft I could see them maybe addressing it there but I think they like the bodies that they have in the building I think they liked the guys that are willing to develop them. We know the Andy Reid doesn't spend a whole lot of assets on running back is not to say that he won't but I think it's a situation where he seen what he can do. He seen this sort of impact. That the guys that you know that our in house already can make if if he can get a good deal on one of these guys these veterans looking to Kinda rebound on a one year deal and then move on to bigger contract. I think we might see but I wouldn't expect see Andy Reid paying running back big dollars unless unless he's just decided that he's all in and this is his last year and he's just gonNA spend spend up all the assets we can. Yeah I think a guy like allstate clearer. Kenyan drake is going to be kind of out of the price range expected to see. I think those guys are going to get paid near starting or at least fifty fifty timeshare kind of money. I would look much lower. I don't even think you're going to pay back up level money but you're penny guided. COVETED COMPETE E kit. Craig said there I would love to see map ready to come in here just compete. See what happens or another guy. I don't know what his market's GonNa look like Chris Thompson running running back receiver at a Washington. I believe is a free agent to someone like that you would add the other completely different dynamic. He would actually be perfect relic back for how the chiefs us he said. Stay the only ask you to run like three times the rest of its. RPO Like someone like that. Give them a chance to compete and see what happens sure. Why not so? The chiefs have six running backs already on their ninety minute oster Damian Williams Darwin Thompson Daryl Williams Mike Weber who they they signed in the reserve future contract. Elijah McGuire reserve future contract. Marcus Marshall they've already got six. I almost wonder if some of those flyers that they've we've taken this to help keep them from making any investment at all at running back and just seeing what you have with the competition the room and maybe adding an undrafted free agent into the mix after the fact honestly just thinking about that Mattie chief England asks would you be interested in signing David Johnson if the cardinals cut him one guy that I would be willing to pay a little bit of money to not a lot because he definitely has to come back and prove that he can still play if he is not become whatever we saw out of the Redskins here reserve arrested out of the cardinals running back recently but if he's and he's a free agent he's begging plenty of money he's probably going to go somewhere for a little bit less as much money as he's GonNa make eight from the cardinals. Yeah give them a shot. Why not he? He's a great receiver. He fits the mold of the chiefs would like to use that running back. Give him a chance. See what happens. I'm I'm going to read a couple of these off. Real quick great googly. Mo- asks if a train leaves doing travelling west or is it north. It's New England traveling west at sixty miles per hour and a train leaves. KC KC sixteen hours after traveling east ninety miles an hour. How long until Patrick Mahomes? The Second Shatters Olive Brady's records officially becomes the go and we no longer have to endure. Endure the insufferable. PATS homers insecurities some some eighty three asks. If mahomes thirty six games starts starts including play offs is it fair here to say. He is a better career so far than Tom. Brady's first thirty six game starts. I wanted to just address both of these. Yes Patrick Mahomes is out doing what Tom Tom Brady did. In the same amount of time both of them in their age twenty four year seasons won a super bowl. I believe they both won the Super Bowl. MVP Patrick von Mahomes already has the super bull MVP. He already has the one time. All Pro Toubro pro bowl beer. A awards given passing title a touchdown title He. He has already whooped. Tom Brady and the first thirty six games. He's got the playoff experience. He's got the title. He does have the pressure of getting the first one Tom. You're on notice my friend Patrick. Von Mahomes is coming for you. He got the first one to quick at now. You need to be shook. And all of the northeast needs to be a little bit shook because the king of the Midwest is coming to take your title Brad K Porter asks as an Iwa Fan. How how big was Ben Simmons? Fourth quarter pressure Jimmy Garoppolo that forced to throw and his fourth quarter rocking tackle on kickoff coverage. I mean we had a lot of Iowa fans the follow us by the way we see a lot of you guys we we see you out here especially when we get talking draft draft stuff. You guys are out here. Listen that was awesome. Been Neiman was fantastic on those plays especially that delayed blitz sitting and selling his own drop and and then tucking behind the defensive tackle and looping around Jimmy Garoppolo still hasn't seen him coming on that blitz that was fantastic and it force an errant the throw their name. It's been great on kickoff returns punt returns like He. He is a wonderful special teamer. That's where he stuck on this team. That's where he's made his most important contributions in this team so far and that's not trying to be a knocked him. He's an excellent special teamer. So I yeah I think that yeah. That's that's wonderful. Been Neiman is going to stick around as a special teams guy as long as possible. Steve SPEC does certainly trusted him in coverage over some of the guys like Dorian. Oh Daniel Darren Lee. That came with certainly more pain fair than Beneema does so I would expect him him to stick around as long as bag Nolan. Dave tope one. Br are four asks. How would the two thousand seventeen season have ended? If mahomes homes had started the whole year. I love this question. Well they would have won a playoff game. That's that's certain. I think that there would would have been some some growing pains with malls. I don't think he was ready. I think he needed that year. In the system he needed to learn the way that things were going to operate with with the chiefs but there at the end of the year there. I think that he does enough to win. At least a playoff game and simply by just being Patrick Mark Levin Mahomes and everything he touches seems to just go the chiefs way that Derek Johnson forced fumble would not have been ruled forward progress so they definitely would have won that game. Yeah I think the tricky part would have been making to the playoffs if you had bash along start the whole year sure. I do think that he needed some time to settle down. Figure out everything that was an early scene. Patrick walls be completely overwhelmed since we've S. fans have been watching him. I do wonder if you threw him to the wolves they're immediately. That would be the case but as you essentially just got the playoffs and in our guts convert game. Let Patrick Wolves play that game. Come Out Tyler. Bray almost lose it. Put back in to win it and then let him start the playoffs game yet. They were still plugging into the playoffs. At least the staff at first round. Okay so I think he would've started his career off playing the two teams that wound up in the Super Bowl. The the at at New England and I believe they played the eagles the very next week. That is a tough task to throw in the fire but I will say this. They probably beat the titans if he starts that game like if he starts week. Seventeen of the season I bet you. They beat the titans. I bet you. They win the first playoff game. So Oh I mean I. I don't know but I don't know if they make the playoffs with him and then you wouldn't have gotten you know Kendall Fuller who makes the play in the Super Bowl and you probably wouldn't have gotten Derek Ninety because he wouldn't have had those draft assets from trading Alex Smith because Alex Smith's value would have been significantly less because he didn't have his career here all right. That is going to do it for today's episode. We'll be back with some more mailbag questions later in the week. Hedge elated yeah.

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2019/13  Canadian GP Preview

Box of Neutrals

35:40 min | 1 year ago

2019/13 Canadian GP Preview

"There's books of tros live on tariffs grant staff. Michael Landon, Nacho, rob James had paid them again, lay and with your house band. Michelle got three at the desk, the door orchestra. Reviewing the Canadian Grand Prix. It's Mike Michael and rub James in a week when which not watching three happened. Nice. So we're going to be piddling fight news and propaganda from the Chinese news media, hurt Slough, y excellent say. You can't say. This so much so much to talk about. If you want to talk about geopolitics some boats wrapped up in a from China. No one knows how they got the Donald Trump's probably said something for me. The one note very much naked gets these podcast on weight chess and various encrypted undergrad services, you native API into exit, plus said he all of these idle speculation about nothing. This is the eighth episode of the year of Fox News. Where was our young MC Bob, the show me. Pita. Mcginley. Shale. He said, f one is bullshit because just go round in heaps of circles. They don't go anywhere. Michael avocado Android James previewing, the Canadian Grand Prix. We could also still call the Monaco grand prix review. There's not much in the in between section of this fortnight nine is going on. Not much happens in keeping the why. So it's okay if you, if you haven't watched the Monaco grand prix still have enough time. I think it's like a fourteen day. Leave it to what's myself hasn't been taken down. You haven't got the Email saying lost jobs. But this is the way reminding you, you should watch it is now that, you know, the results from such an important one. If you are a general sports fence, if you if you're one of those enough, he's, he's watch that Liverpool thing over the weekend, and you were foaming the one fan and heaven forbid Lewis Hamilton Mercedes. I n j portrays. IMG motorsport F one, Bose headphones fan, then this would be held because you will have had no sleep in two weeks. You're going to be in trouble, especially if you leave if you live in New Zealand US stuffed, you better off because it's actually so lice instead, it becomes early, and you could just like up for this one civically at times odor said he's trailing. Nason is absolutely cooked. If you're a full metal on van if you're in Australia for this around the rice, I think I'm qualifying probably he's on at four in the morning. On the eastern seaboard, which probably lesser extent at alight. Yeah. Well, they already said, even that stadium in its bitter with the port. Seaboard adelaide. It's, it's worked out. Hasn't it? But, you know the Canadian girl free, I guess, it's kind of a historic rice. We'll talk a little bit more about it later on. You must be must be wondering what we're going to talk about now considering nothing has happened. But you know what e win. Nothing happens occasionally, it pays off to search news websites in other languages English. We look them up in the Netherlands, again to say nothing. Evelyn stragically Mexico's Stephan and swear. Yes, and good on them for doing so we need more of them like that. At least they have passionate enthusiastic. No. I've been on motor sports dot eat the Italian motorsport. Oh, jeez. Reputable stew? Where telling journalists also on sky Li I think probably I've seen him someway, Roberta Chinchar owes reported. He's actually quite an interesting rural story. I'll give him the been for the dad, quote, a story that over the Monaco grand prix week ripple racing old mates red bull racing made contact with Nico HOGAN Berg because helmet Monaco, not say convinced gasoline is going to get much better this season. You know what I am seek of the elderly, I am seeing general, I am seek of baby boomers closely saying that millennials, they're all the faces a stuffed in the game devices playing you know, Tinder and also online games that they have the shortest attention spans in recent memory helmet. Mark has the attention span patience levels for for with line. Dr Daniel give ES p Ghezali is on the boom. And now at this point, and he just goes Britain hot. Also driveway, actually, he was very patient with Brendan hotly. Twice as it because I ran out of drive is about September last year, it'll leaving and just because he's got one driver that's about to get super Lawson's points in Japan. Didn't stuff around with these safety car nonsense of he's ago. He thinks. Oh, okay. Now I can afford to be putting draw his by the way, I saw it again. Imagine if I but I'm also this was also back up my genius theory that I propose a few weeks ago that the whatever movement and happens at the other something will happen at red bull Ferrario Mercedes, and then that will settle for China reaction, and then we'll be in a different set of colored overalls, Satan, that yellow and black, well, let's could be any of them, but I'm an interesting theory because I mean, let's first of all talk about these Nico hokum Berg side of things here. The I did the story says that red approached him because, of course, they're not convinced by Gazzali look at Tahrir also we're Alex L born is not yet ready because if Gaza wasn't ready after one season, maybe another driver might also not be ready after Wednesday's new to thought a Formula one driver might need more than one season to become good. And of course, Daniel give you I want, you could say, well, that man is in the form of his life at the by ministering very, very well at tar also, but. I don't know even helmet mock. Oh, must have a threshold for irony about hiring back, Daniel caveat, third, or full time after dropping him for either red bull Toro, apparently he's an option either. Well, maybe it's not maybe he's just going, well, I'm going to sit up here. Guess Lee for large time of sitting on the taller also pay. He'll be a solid performance school some points show. There's going to be some emotional trauma for a couple of years while he comes to grips with the fact he's not alone. We full when the one drive over rising star anymore that that's going to be the bit that hurts. He has this trajectory that goes up and up and up has Lee fourth-place in these what the second or third grand pray. The first Honda podium in over a decade. And now there's about him being replaced by Neko HOGAN booed chewed him informing the one driver. Let's face it, who was all in the great Artie everything he himself was a rising star back in the day as well. So they comes around full circle. This is the really interesting because it Nico. Oh, ho combat is such an enigma, not necessarily of a man, but of a of a miss for this guy because he's been. He has been alleged speeder rising staff, nine years. That's too long to be a rising star even not where he wasn't racing. He was a rising star and journeyman. I mean genuine is when do you call them a driver journey. And because he's still highly rated and yet, has the record for example, which I think would surely him the journeyman tag of most rice starts without a podium. Despite he's teammates occasionally getting podiums like Sergio Perez schools opponents during these day, even at Salvador that when teammates, a tabloid as far as I can remember. And yet, all of a sudden being Reynaud, which should have been his big break, which still could be big. Breaking even I wouldn't Renault could come good this year, obviously, probably be next to you. But maybe you're off to that who knows. It's only now when he's on that trajectory with rano one of the big teams might come cooling and only because one of their drivers is not quite up to the job. It could be. And hell ironic though, handle. The ironic that he could get his big break, because he's team might left a front running team to come and joining. But right are telling it'd be really to this financial alone side. Like I was easy to come into you silly, little energy drink tame, now, look at him doing nothing once he's one LeMond next week next twist, I'll tell you everything for websites and sporting like any newspaper. All publication apart for fake news. Things that go off of the charts is, basically trade and drive in drive a signings and calories. Yeah. Basically, people just want to say new stickers on cars, and people wanted to say Dr is wearing new suits. That's basically the basic human urges over Formula, one fan if we break it down. It's bordering on sexual. For the for the Cullman. Forget, so should Formula one institute some kind of mid season preseason. Midseason off-season, right. That's right. The become a trade period, somehow, everything everything is up for trite sponsors intellectual property staff members team principles. So Reynaud saved. It's money. It could go into the trade period and raid, the Mercedes team for its chassis information. But also could end up at rising point for all we night. Why not by considering contracts? Everything's up for debate. I think that could be it went way facing down the barrel of a season. That could be the most dominant influence on history. Yeah. You could've salted. I think that could be the way we need to meet season draft in Formula one. There's one thing. Exactly. Right. The people want to see new stickers in new overalls, or whatever it is the most, it is the laziest content on Instagram and I'm so sick of saying, people badly Photoshop drivers heads onto other drivers bad, shadows, the show, Autry small is so era, tighter, very wish people would stop. It was always funny. Whenever pay would try to furnish up. Mike Weber onto. Financial alone toys tiny Friday. But I know alone says go at twenty s going about twenty centimeters on alonside. It is ridiculous. Gee Photoshop game guys come on, not everyone can do it. And that's okay. If you can't do it. Don't be one of the people who tried to I something else steal a main from someone physically acceptable online content. What an interesting situation, this would create for the drive of market type because we've. First of all, Gaselee after only two seasons might be suddenly unemployed. Well what about the prospect where helmet Maka still wants to keep him? We would have to drop Daniel caveat again. Also, is that a possibility water lack that would be? Season so far you wouldn't put a pass him. No one knows why. That's even back then the fact that I all the drivers which is incredible. It would also not say a lot and maybe funny, how am I might learn from these wind drivers are being promoted quickly to red bull rice? Yeah. It usually ends badly. Didn't you? He went believe that he'll just keep you just kick going into the same old habits. These has the guts. These has the guts to tell him mock you probably getting data with trading. If you've saying the, the least helpless, because he keeps putting up the photo of the drivers Knicks to he's dot board. And he's often, so he just gets used to throwing darts at them, and then all of a sudden he's starting to sack these drivers. It's also a new game on the F one show. I actually think it might be could be watching formula tease. Say your pledge injured that okay good concert. It's ten out of content. This is also come about. We talked about the irony that whole combat will be leaving tag Ricardo say it's coming up, specifically to the story because red bull racing deeds, whole Daniel Ricardo and pretty high regard, even if they possibly held Mexico's afternoon IRA got and who's to say it's a rumor. Going up against Daniel Ricardo's. Nico hackenberg has been he admitted this side of the union. Of course it is. He's a big season for welcoming the first year he's really being up against the driver that we know is consistent. We know is good. You know recovers come straight at top team won races. Last year. It was on rice in previous, you get. He's, he's up. He's going to be good to very hard to judge this season. Because there in our car is normally on fire or in its garage, but he's generally performed more or less on par in qualifying. I if you eliminate the as Abidjan's beat we'd less than a tenth of a second separating them. I've only score points, three times between them Ricardo's you think two points ahead that makes him but three points scoring positions. It's not a example. He's. So what if HOGAN Berg does the right thing by the company for now? And he ended up they release him to so red bull, for example, because right? I don't forget, I have Jimmy drive is knocking Dan, the draw J. Yes. Yep. Jackie's. He put it in. E put him in if one I say zero to two hundred cod, I have have have give give him some time to develop the engine failures. Yeah. Yeah. Get used to being the one driver for the like everyone else sees, we'll Reynaud become the journeyman factory because isn't that what Daniel riccar is also a risk of Nikko hokum Berg jumped ship? Now, of course going to a front running team. You'd understand why I wanted to leave and he's contract at the end of the year as well. So you ain't breaking it every Jody Wynn Formula, one driver has the silver lining of eventually going, so it's up tight fizzy Kelly did that we pray fli shoe to fully pay nearly being killed. Please. Yeah. Physical ahead of time over it for arguably. Nico rosberg. I should get into knees. It williams. Mike Weber rocked up. Hey, you know, you went to sports cows, test-drive beside. He so that's good. That's good. So you got some. It's pretty good. I think that's okay. So eventually, they, they have their time in the sun, very briefly unusually towards the end of the curious. But they sometimes embarrassingly. Yep. Yeah. I suppose, so if that happens show, motorsport, or eat, hey, you should go there more often. Maybe. For peace. No. Yeah. I wouldn't trust that one. Just take exists. I think it does. I think it's also invite motorsport virtually everything. In fact, I think I nine zero j. Crime cosima. They've got. Hey, there's another between round also from reputable journalists Jason would who's given voice to this humor. It's left. He's a rumor I lost you. Whilst you respect Mr. I would superb posture remaining to ask him. How does he have such good posture? I will ask him next time next time I at a rice. I'll do that. It'll be the report. I bring back to do the whipper in the Patrick Kelly won't do get post you unusual. Lost. There's a rumor doing the rounds, according to say would that Sebastian vandal is seriously considering retiring at the end of the year. Wouldn't that be something I've had that room if a month? It was my opinion. It's not. They're not take fire off is independent, I suppose, where do you put it like that? So let me see let you hit it here. I it just didn't seem as reputable the time, the Elvis circuit breaker, though, favor one, wouldn't it wouldn't that be interesting lawyers, must love it. When Dr is suddenly like when. Hey, Nick retired out of the blue to suddenly the hourly rice kind of guys off every journey even drive Ricans. I've got a shot realism Floyd. Even drive drivers, some of them become lawyers, some somehow like days, a couple of things that I would genuinely loved to be a fly on the wall of old hack into fines to say. You know, the takes bases between politicians during like ladyship spill or an election or something like politics politicians, getting quieted in newspaper saying, oh, you know, say, say Sania, liberal MP's said way, if for this upcoming election or whatever all of that Impey's dickhead or something. I would love to say the correspondence between drive is a manages and teams of basically, you know, will unsold Lewis Hamilton back in the day wanting to go to red bull. For example, you remember that story that did the rounds. This is no quite about contracts, but it was off to a lotta size massive crashing ustralia in that twenty seven teen the. The S sixteen sometime around then any broker reborn something like that. He was he got injured. And you didn't rice followings off event on ROY. So someone else writes, it was. But he because he didn't pass medical system in Bahrain. But apparently, he was so eager to drive that as soon as who was assisting him said, sorry, you done son ribs, broken drop to the floor inside of doing push-ups to the news, feed tiredly that was true report it but I'd love to have just seen what would you say? If you're the doctor if all just jumped down south doing push out, he must have a concussion. Manchester. I ain't today. So. Although you're going to say because I knew it wasn't going to be true, that drive is was sort of cooling out McLaren wanting that safe. Finally would have been very quiet. Really no one else surely. This is tight defined. Fuster roaming problem Courtray bars. Good data. Okay. That's not really rigging. Time mclean. Emotional time indeed. So when the pay me drove was she. Finally, what would for Sebastian vid leaving for RA do in this Dr market situation? These a two weeks because for the first of all. Next. Let's through the metro we make this the video podcast addition where I get my locker, I what are we should? We still haven't bought that poured. Doing nothing is not news is what can we do the matrix doing? All right. The matrix is so we have. Is actually cleared some space on his disk to try my hand. Use the hand. The is this three part right? Tricks combining the I didn't say fact hot pot. One was very good. So maybe we should make it a one pot. Do it. Oh, duel teams we including the co cocaine big that's include the river. All right. Sorry. PA you'll stuffed, especially where you've tried it into the leave so well, well done. Good. So therefore, we have movement, so hokum beg has gone to red bull to partner, max fish Chapin. Does max think he has a shot at Ferrari because this guy because let's not forget he's out of contract at the end of next year. I think so. Yes, thank you. Right. I've had the Frank discussion toys and Lois of potentially just driving. Full for let's Asian messiah. These drivers wanna be for our driving some pointed Mark Webber nearly became one for crying Atlanta. He's the lace Ferrari driver of ever met. So, so I actually the matrix the kite. Hey. Six the question eight magnets, next week over magnets, I liked the different variable because potentially between because it says, off a huge chain reaction. So if there's this for our if someone is sort of just thinking, oh, remind, might be going bonkers, and then haven't wanted to think at all, but what the hell will be held a story to, to have when I'm when I'm an old man, so potentially if it'd be huge because he's the thing, so you say Mexico's staffer and that's popular and a lot of people's heads, you apparently, maximum Sapin has a contract that has some fairly easy get out clauses, because, you know, he's not sure about ripple racing whatever. But if your choices are red bull racing and Ferrari, this season's Disney going to be this season, and probably earlier rather than later, if it's for Ari, would you honestly, leave red bull racing to go to Ferrari considering the state that team is in this? It's funny it's not only the yes right now that's the thing it's almost got. Now they're going to be because Ferrari, let's say special Italy's, they put out the press. Release old maid. He's gone. He's retiring. It's going to go to form a or something like that. He's gonna do you will get an auto is going to have so many midfield drivers calling him. But none of the top drive. I imagine Louis how would like to go to Ferrari one day, there's no way if you'll Lewis Hamilton this season leaving that Mercedes team to go to for ARA. Why would you do feel nightmare? Valkyrie Batas only. He's being thoroughly beaten by. He's teammate Lewis Hamilton. But then if you're TOTO wolf do you wanna push us out of the white, because you've got Esteban conduct commute and replace him. And you need to put him somewhere. Maybe that is something that happens does Veltri passcode affari. They did it. They were interested in a couple of years ago. You remember they were too, so maybe there's Veltri bodice, but then you also. Okay. Antonio juvenile's. He's not going to go there. He's not an impressive yet saying you won't become impressive one day, but it doesn't look like this is his season. Let's put it that way. So that's not going to happen. But then you've got the likes of old Ferrari. Junior driver Peres would love to leave the midfield. One day, I had shoulder the Clarin wasn't convincing but he's become very good. In the meanwhile, do they take a punt on him? So it'd be Clarence sort of playing bass, oh to drive a lineup. I think if Peres is leaving that's squad. The room is doing the rounds. According to say would Veltri bought houses, one of them. Sergio Perez was another Kevin Magnusson and remain grow John from Haas, this, not quite, but sort of almost Ferrari Beatty. No. Come on. As you for comedies, noting. That makes ways on the contract, though. That's the thing these are drivers who are not in contract. I think this is the contract and kick the tax. Well, let's see the other interesting question, I would be would run our have negotiated contract with Ricardo the would allow him to exit for front running team in the next year. Sure. Sure. Sure, sure, you say. I really wanted to get you all know, I really wanted to guy date ended up here because I had to so I don't get me wrong. I like the colors suit me. Let's be honest, who wouldn't want to go there, even if it's a bit monkeys. So what an interesting drive, a mock it situation, we could be facing all of this is. Innuendo, I guess, to a degree reported by repeatable journalists, but all of them have som asterisks on them, but we could be in for very interesting silly season this year. Sweeping the Canadian Grand Prix and making stuff up. It's Michael Manado. Andro James coupling those stories before we talk about Canada. There's no really story at all. I just thought this was a worthwhile time to do some comparisons. In case you didn't realize how one sided this season has become Lewis Hamilton said after winning the Monaco, berry that he has assisted season is being quite average despite a statistically being he's ever start to a year and rubbing it in despite having twenty-seven, we'll points that he did this time last year. And of course, he ended up dominating championship even he wasn't at the time. Just interesting to look back comparing with last year last year as the Lewis Hamilton is leading both championships. If you like go more points this year last year he was leading Sebastian vital though, by what is that fourteen points? Whereas this year's leading Veltri bought bodice by seventeen vittles score fiddles actually scored a similar number. You see the last you. So he say Ferraris had a disaster ID's you points to see ninety six lost. The biggest notable omission compared to last year's Daniel Ricardo. I think these time we were still talking about him as a doc doc goals for the championship. This is about the time. The room is he was going to go to Ferrari was sick. Hi stocks, we're high. It's like the housing market in Israel. He sort of Stokes where as high as low as. Ended up being and yet here we are. Financial Alonso also obviously not in contention there, although you know what is interesting this time last year. Fernando Alonzo had forty two points, this time this year McLaren has only thirty points so McLaren despite them looking like they're doing quite well. And they are the best team in the moment have schooled fuel points. This time this time this can be funny. All Honda is about. Full points is almost exactly the same. Yeah. Four points better than. It was basically McLaren this year just being flattered that everyone else's a bit sheet. Yeah. It's really interesting midfield points breakdown. It's almost like somehow the top three teams is scoring more points despite still being the same number of cars. So it's very strange right now he's as Alie the worst performing out of that midfield field. Capena lost Fulla by Haas, as well. Toro soda on point Toson Renault so far this year. I've actually been quite interesting because they were meant to be the, the guys competing fourth plays. And both of them have been very average so far this season last year. And I had forty six points this year. They've got fourteen a fortunate that tenure cutody scored some points in, Monaco Haas had a slow start of the season we will know that there's similar similar number points. But compared to where they finish has been pretty average sought to the and of course, we're going to still asked. Yes. So maybe go can you believe that we're we now in an era where the hunt the Honda jokes did? When Richmond in the I fell spotted weaving stuff. And now you can't say the oh, Richard and they're gonna be. On the ladder joke Honda and now a reputable constructor reform, the one engines and I say that with ass a hint of irony or sarcasm. Well convenient you say this is well, because this week, hunters finally said that it believes it's hit the reliability talk it after five years in Formula one or in its fifty year form it on, whatever it is it now believes it has a power unit that can last seven races, which is the bay minimum in Formula one because that's how many you get engine. Which is good news. One hundred finally, it sounds like it's a joke, and it is a little bit funny because I think it's pretty average over the last four years, but can rain are saying that they can to be totally honest with you, because I can't think of a year in which random, maybe the first year, maybe the first year in which they got to the season unscathed by penalty. Yeah. I mean Honda saying these. And of course, saying one thing and doing it is another thing. But if they do get to the end of the season without having to take more than one extra pal unit is they have set themselves up to do. That's a pretty big deal considering where they've been. Formula, the one just like the right cow world. Again the relevance between the two industries. It it's like when, you know, when he is used to be bit of a joke. Be paul's. Now. There are serious cop manufacturer. It's sort of. One of the first probably brands you would think of if you approach seeing a brand new car out there in the market. It's not something that's gonna anymore. Hunter has done that in the phone with the one world. They're fine murder commenting factor for many ease. But in forming the one in recent times, and even in its previous generation towards the end of the last decade they weren't really well regarded in that space. Whereas now, this que sort of middle of the market, con of respectable now, I think the way they're at as opposed to, you know, various Spanish intimate names. At bottom that is, of course, red bull racing. So how can they get can they make it through the end of the year? We will find out we the way that penalties. I can't wait for when it goes all. So wrong. When they were together, and it ended very badly. Well, this weekend's going to be the test as well, as we do to in our attention to the Canadian Grand Prix. Finally, this is normally the rice way most engine manufacturers. Most teams bring the latest version of the newest version of the engine because pretty pow sensitive circuits mostly long straights in chicanes a little bit like Melvin crossed with monzo, if you like it's very fast. What I'm trying to say except no team except Mercedes has managed to make it this far without already changing one of their pal units for -bility problems. All already on. I can specification how except for Mercedes which has been doing very nicely. And so they probably going to bring the latest Pao unit upgrade here to Canada because. Yes, what you do want it, and more to the point. And not only will that obviously highlight the fact that they I mean, you never know what's going to happen in the rest of the season. But on a good way with penalties because everyone else probably would have to take on at some point except for maybe them and maybe some of the obviously customer teams. But if there's one track, and we could say this about actually guy. But if there's a type of track I should say that theoretically favors Ferrari track that his palace incident because they do have the fastest engine. So if Assayed he's rox up and winds up, mantle back. We'll get some engine. That's pretty close soccer up. That's it daddy here. If you've got tickets to feature racists, get rid of them sell them on EBay. You may get a refund. Hey, he bought in fact, because you pay to go to a sport. And. If he if you know he's gonna leave. I don't know if it catches this for the typical pig. Isn't it? These makes these a really big test now. But well known attests from Assaid, I suppose, but an interesting benchmark, if you like interesting white point for this season because Ferrari have had some races, where they think they could have won this as in Bahrain is obviously, one of them had the unit not failed Charlotte Clare, there are other races. Maybe as John where they potentially could have had a car that was kind of a cane as by John Doe. So a little bit of a Palestine, Steve circuit, a lot of things are applying with Ferrari's problems. Okay. They're not generating enough downforce and not understanding the ties. But this is a circuit with the shoot theoretically played to their strengths. And they adamant that they've still got some strengths in them to sell something from this season. I think I'm now at the point where I almost I wanted to say someone else weaned because. Is almost morbid curiosity. If I can actually we never rice, do it, it, it doesn't make for a great spectacle bug. A D very curious because that would actually be. I mean it's. Know everyone says, like all say go overseas positions. You back wooden. We only had ten races e and now we have, you know, double that now that is a remarkable face if they if they could win twenty twenty twenty twenty one twenty one races. Not even technically headlong has that record beginning on full when they want to the end of last year. So an extra two. Yes. So give him a couple of supplementary number. The jackpot. Twenty nine. And if they win the entire thing, that's let's say theory by could Wayne to Twenty-three rice in Iraq, and why stopping its regulations don't shy. Could we forty something that would that's three five? Now, you have a sick demented. So we'll see. We'll see how they go. This is a Louis biddable Lewis Hamilton if it's a Ferrari, texoma Hamilton track. He normally goes quite well here, I think lost year, the before he was a little bit off color, but which was unusual. But normally it used to be that he the we know not finish. And then I think if he's fourth last year, I think, say, broke that record by normally does quite well, you don't me likes it. He so that makes the order, slightly told her that Veltri bought us currently behind in the championship standings can make up that gap. He's deficit. What was it, seventeen points, something like that? Interesting sort of Ruma filing going on bought us as being more tasting foods fiesta off, I've rarely cap really. So they had these Lapland rally decided. Yeah. So it was interesting that he's still is he going to retire as well this season on Tomek who's tasting it somewhere in, in fronts. But yeah, no he's been testing really cause so Ford and m sport over there, building a new shape off five he, which is the WC. Two cars so the step ally, he's apparently being testing that which is interesting that Mercedes city you can do that on the side, beside these that have a representation or an affiliate Brandon in in rallying. So interesting association between those company anyone anyone who's buying a Ford is in buying Mercedes invoices. Probably. This is interesting. Interesting other Condie's. We haven't talked about this because to be honest about it. Renos told you about merging with FIA Chrysler automobiles, if super team playing you just merge all the cock house. I recall. Ricotta would be Ferrari driver. But by Dr. Dr Larry no longer Pablo, j he'd be driving. They've Renno could rebrand to being Jeep. Why not? Being the car is increasingly black in color. Be fine. You just take off a little bit more yellow every year, and then it's cheap it's done deal. 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