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Russell Peters

"Welcome to the PODCAST number. Ten fifty one. The Wizard Guitar tour is underway in various cities. Like Brea California. That's just one night on Saturday. March twenty first and then the weekend after the twenty six twenty seven twenty eight. I'll be at helium in Portland. And then I'll be at the Wilbur Theatre in Boston April third the tickets and Info for all of the dates. Which are populating. The calendar throughout the rest of Twenty Twenty are at Wizard Guitar Dot Com. Come on out and see the wizard guitar but now and also the wall. Nbc Game Show. The Wall starts back March Fifteenth. Which is real soon. And there's a bunch of episodes and the the show we take a little while ago but damn people really figured out how to play the game and it is incredible. So I if you're a fan of the wall it is coming back on Sunday nights. I think like seven. Pm On march fifteenth for Awhile. And if you're not a fan of the wall that's fine too thorough lot of entertainment choices up there. I don't know how we keep up with everything quite honestly there's just too much entertainment but there's a lot in any case. Let's talk about you. We're GONNA talk about Cameron Giles. Who has emailed events that I D ten T dot com? Who said I made a thing? It is the pilot episode of Turbo City Guidon Animated Series chronicling the adventures of the baddest band on the planet the mad gear aesthetically. The series takes its cues from the eight and sixteen bit Video Games. The artists pixelated the nation. Simple and the music is chip. A fide show itself is inspired by this video games Saturday morning cartoons film noir and the warriors also has been described as streets of rage. Meets strong bad now. The pilot is outs were launching a kickstarter to make a full season. You can find it all at mad gear band dot Com. Thank you Cameron. Thank you for making a thing. This episode is Russell Peters stand up comedian Russell. Peters who I don't think actually is ever been on the podcast before he was on that midnight. Think he's actually ever been on the podcast. This might be his premiere episode. He's promoting his new Amazon Phantom special deported which as I just said is on Amazon but I said it really fast I kind of barreled through it so I'm just going to say it again. It is on Amazon Russell. Peters thank you so much for being on this episode of the identity podcast which starts right now. Took no babies yet so funny. Because I'll I'll I've been and I imagine you too because this is sort of what happens. Is Comedians get older? They just sort of talk about stuff in their life. I've started talking about the potential of having kids and my show and it's always so funny. How divided something. It's the best of other people like Dow Dow ads. Don't you know so the people that are the best you know that misery loves company? I know what he's always like a weird club that people who are trying to recruit you for like we do it like a come on. Don't do it Colty Club. I Dunno I think Oh back from. That's the thing it's not like there's no backtracking like a bad haircut grow out. It's like the tire spikes go up like cup campaign that's it. It children are tire spikes that's the takeaway today. That's why they say you're so tired. We did I start with a pun. That listen you're not gonNA get. I'm not going to turn my nose up at a pun and I'm a big Fan I have. I am like puns. I feel like everyone loves them. Even though some people are like Oh you know. They're puns but everyone loves palm. Yeah I'm big fan so you have. Two kids loved the word play. I excited to talk to you because you do something. That is very difficult to do. Which is you're able to shoot riffing in your shows right which is which is. I've always thought like. Oh it's really I tried to do a segment of my last special and it was like a an extra. I kind of went into the crowd but I always find that it works in a live show because everyone's they're shooting. Comedy creates a layer of separation so the audience at home isn't caught up in the energy. So why don't you know like I'm not there so I would love to sort of talk about how you're able to make that work and how you're able to weave it in mainly because it's something that I wish I could see? I love talking to the crowd. So do I because I get bored like after you. You know when you're when especially when you go to shoot a special You've got to figure out to that for two years or something. Yeah and now. You're just deathly fucking bored of the act and you're like maybe I can if I talked to somebody. It'll make me. WanNa breathe new life into the material than Ryan to do so but that's also the way I write is by talking to the crowd. You seem like a very structured intelligent guy. I read. Well that is. You've definitely been tricked. I I am by intelligent. I don't mean you're smart I over think things. I'm was my last two specials. I very much wrote the way that you do. And a lot of it had to do with just my schedule being so crazed I would sort of get an idea. And then just kind of riff with the crowd and see how it unfolds. Talk to people and something that will come out and then it will become a part of the act this special. I really sit down and morning at breakfast and I just right for like an hour right. How can I play with that? That's the part. I don't understand like you open your laptop or do you use pen and paper. I opened my laptop. I use a couple of different programs couple different APPS that I use and I just tweak you know like I listened to sets and I go. That was fat. I can cut that out like what's different joke on this house. What's a different angle on this? So it's just it's just tweaking. Every day just incrementally and trying a different shows which also keeps it fresh every time right. I used to think in the nineties I would record my sets and then I would listen to them once only once. So here's the thing I used to deejay. Yeah I still do. I start teaching and eighty-five and I found through de Jiang that if you make a mistake in a mixed tape When I'd be making mix tapes if there was a mistake like I dropped the record in at the wrong time or the the mix went off a little bit and if I listened to it more than twice in my brain goes. That's where it's GonNa go. That's where it sounds so I took that and then instituted into comedy and I would listen to my set once and I've made my notes back then I'm like okay. I didn't like that I didn't like that and then I would not listen to. That's ever again and I would record the next set and try to fix it and then listen to that set once and that's how I would get moving forward because then you don't end up making the same mistake no but sometimes sometimes especially with like. Dj reviewed dropped wreck the wrong time. There's always there's that prince thing of like if you make a mistake do it again because then it seems intentional. You know like Yeah Sometimes. The happy mistakes. And that's what I love about ripping with people. Is that when things go sideways? Kind of some of the magic happens. Oh yes you can't I don't believe like I can't write something verbatim and recite a script. I can I can ride. Beats like right? The joke beats and then however it comes out is how it comes out right. I feel like you have to be in the relationship with the audience for that too. You'RE NOT MARRIED. Ula Words not at all right that it comes out different every and also I would imagine for you too. If people saw two of your shows back to back what they would see are two different shows. Even though some of the material is the same they would have two different experiences based on your interaction with the crowd right. And that's how I like to do it. Yeah and I think that's why. After thirty one years I still have a nice thriving. Live business. Yeah because they come on there like we saw him last time he was fantastic and then we saw him again and it was completely different. Yeah I've had people come out three nights in a row weekend because they were there Friday Thursday and they're like those so good ones in again. Friday was a different show again. Yeah different show again all right and I'm like yeah when I don't know that I'm doing that. I just you just doing it. It's just natural natural being you but you have the comfort level on stage that no matter how far off the map you go. You know you're going to be able to pull it back if you need. Y'All just ask a leading question. Yeah do you ever find? Sometimes it's difficult to follow your written material like you've had such a stellar riff with the audience and they're so involved and all the sudden you talk about somebody that doesn't involve them like no talk about us again. Yeah that was more had that I've had I've had myself not able to follow myself. Yes yes yes yes yes. It's the best and worst feeling at the same time. Yeah but you can always dive back into the crowd you need to and then I go. I would actually address it as soon as it happens to like that was written material which is clearly not as good as you guys. Yeah of course. Yeah but that you know that type of comedy and what you're talking about is just like being in the purest sense of the moment in the purest present possible which I think is sort of what makes it fun and and I don't know if it's a whole separate skill set to recite your set like a script and I have respect for the guys that do and are able to have it sound fresh every single time but I'm like you I have to trick myself jazz. I guess so. You know what Song you're starting to play and eventually I'm in this key and I'll probably end up on this and have to start with the song and I'll end with the song but in the middle it's going to get a little convoluted. Yeah do you ever go on stage and just say like with like? How Murad are your topics when you go on stage and you don't know how it's GonNa work out you're like oh I was GonNa talk about my kids and see what happens. Yeah had it happen a lot? I find whenever we get to my kids. It gets it just falls flat nowadays. Does it excellent like I get bored of it because I think about it from the perspective of when I didn't have kids and I would hear comic talk about the kids are like I don't care about your kid? Is it just like showing someone your pictures of your kids? That's so great to get out of here and I'm like my kids aren't doing anything. Spectacular right like my nine year olds just a regular nine year olds right. She's not an asshole she's not you know what I mean. She's not like wacky. She's just quiet just did. Yeah my son's ten months old. What's HE GONNA do? Not Now. Should himself today guys. Hey guys congratulations. Then he aid and then he showed himself again. Yeah you might shoot himself tomorrow. Yeah he wakes up and grabs. My nose isn't that funny. Yeah no it's horrible because Greg. Yeah so I find when I go into it nowadays. I'm like yeah I don't WanNa do that anyway. I don't WanNa talk about my kids anymore. It's not that I'm trying to protect them. Just like you're boring so your your career. Is You have this very sort of coveted position. I think of of also having an amazing international business which is a very tough thing to get. I think for at for American comics. Because we're so I think. A lot of American comics underestimate their value international really. Yeah I think a lot of a lot of you guys don't realize how popular you are in other countries. Maybe I certainly don't tooting my own horn which I I don't like hung by myself. But I have always been told in all these other countries that I was their first introduction to stand up. Oh how like? They didn't know what it was until they saw me and then they discovered other people. Was it just for laughs? As that was that was that was. It would have been youtube in two thousand five when it started off. God somebody put my whole act on there and then it just went around the world. Yeah and that's what made the international base really strong and like you go to Mongolia or you go to Malaysia. Or you go to India and you find out. What was your introduction? Russell Peterson yeah some countries. They didn't know what it was called is called the what that guy did. Yeah and basically if you it's not like you have to get like you have to go to India and get a billion people to come out. It's just like a point one. You're good yeah exactly exactly exactly and you still. You still can have a healthy touring business. So do you when you go to different countries do you tour the countries themselves. Or do you kind of go to like one hub city and then like everyone comes out too there you go to the majors. No and then and then as it starts to spread Stockholm originally And then you would end up going to Momo the next times it goes Taco Man Momo and then you're Norway's right there so let's go over to Norway and then you start spreading out just just a just a natural spread. It is interesting because I forget like I have some. I have a couple of friends who are Norwegian and one of them just happens to be obsessed with stand up comedy like knows love Stephen Wright Hedberg and all like and he said look you know in Norway. We got a lot of western. We got a lot of American stuff and he said well what's comedy like in Norway and he goes. Well we're we're we're coming around to it like there are comedians now but it seems like if you had the time the focus which you have have done of going around the country. There's probably a lot of underserviced standup countries where you could like. It's even just showing up even if they didn't know who I'm GonNa go see this because it's a thing I haven't really seen four and then they I imagine they're very loyalty because like you said that the first person you saw they're great to me. I have no complaints about it at all. Do you have to does your set change. No not necessarily now. I mean you might. It's like doing the road here. You talk about whatever you saw in their town right now you write one joke for them right and then you do. Your Act is it. Pretty much is is comedy pretty much a common denominator language in the sense that like every culture likes having stuff pointed out about it like do they take differently in each word as a pretty much. The same basically. Here's the thing is that everybody does ultimately we all do the exact same things? It doesn't matter what country you're from and what color you are or whether you're male or female it doesn't matter. We all do the exact same thing but were so narcissistic. We think we're the only ones doing right and someone points out you're like Oh my God. Yeah and I'm like. Oh you know Indian people are cheap and then and then like Russians and be like cheap. And then you know you got you got the Scottish go now where Jimmy and then every. Everybody thinks they're this right. And then my dad I would say my dad Blah Blah Blah and they go my dad my dad and then it's like yeah exactly what I'm trying to tell you. We all the exact same thing but there's nothing unique about us right. I mean I remember sort of coming up in I guess. What would it was Chubby? Chris then that was Chubby. Oh you remember Chubby Chris. That's so nice. It's so weird to see like skinny will. Now it's been like fifteen years but it's still. It's why I had a name for that guy. Called Him Peter Hardwick like he was the drought pater but it was. It's funny that you remember that guy but I but I often you know like coming up with kind of the moral tentative comedy scene where we'd get really snobby about club comedy and so oh. I know all about it. I look back now and I feel like I'm sort of annoyed with myself over because you get you can say like look. There's a comic on stage and he's fucking talking about airplane food and it's like yeah but the people that came out to that show don't think about comedy one hundred percent of the time and maybe that's the first time someone pointed that out to them. So maybe maybe you might consider it like a topic. That's been tread on before. But maybe this person has a take on that you have overcoming that snobbery to realize like hey like maybe if we're not so stuck up about stuff we could reach people that otherwise wouldn't would not understand our whole like super super ironic form of comedy that is for just people who are comedy fanatic. We're in the Uber sub-genre We're living UBER. Sub sub genre world. Now you know I always liken it to music and you can. I like how you know in the early nineteen hundreds or we listen to one style of music exactly and you like music. I sure do yet. Here's some and then you go to the forties and then like the big band stuff started. Ooh were in the big band and rock and roll started. And that's where it started to divide. Ou like rock and roll. We're into big band jazz. And then rock and roll came in and then rock and roll splintered into heavy Metal Glam rock soft rock class. You know yeah and then disco started and then then rap and then hip hop and hip hop started sub genres. Yeah everything started to splinter and everybody started to find a niche. And that's what comedy comedy comedy from the seventies onwards it was like Wacky goofy then. Oats Guy Swears. Oh hold on now. It's getting darker. Hold on a second. What's that all about and black comedy white comedy? What's this and right? Stoner comedy and then it just started to splinter again overture prior you can just tell stories about your life in honest and authentic way easy. It doesn't have to be like Super Junky. Does you have Steve Martin. It can be Steve. Martin was like extra goofy wacky. Yeah and it was hilarious to me with the he was my guy. Grind Love Steve. Martin I love Steve. Martin I love Cheech and Chong Yup I remember listening to Somebody brought the forty five to school of sister. Mary Elephant Remember that's catch. You know it was like. That's how Brilliant Teaching Jong was that. They made a sketch that you had to listen to. There was no film or video of sister. Mary Elephant Yeah and it was a schedule as a two minute and thirty seconds. Sketch on a forty five. Wow and we would listen to it in class. I remember crying literally crying. Couldn't breathe laughing listening to this thing and that was also a now. We're getting into old guy talk but that was a period of time where you would listen to the same bit or album over and over and over now you know we've become such a consumer culture that it's like you watch or listen to it. Like there was a time I saw already. Yeah that's where like specials you know used to be really special because you would listen to it over and over again. Now it's sort of like a marker of the stand up that you've done for the past year to and you're about to start over and it definitely helps and you have a special on Amazon but I don't know how special but people in General People Watch it once and they're just like more and more and more you know like there's so many more or they're like man more or Matt those check boxes you my friends that my friend pointed out that goes like yeah in the early days of film you could just film a horse walking up stare staircase because no one had done that before. That was like mind-blowing. Yeah look at that horse. Oh my God. That's all moving horse up estate. How'd they do that? And then I'm seeing on the wall and there's new horse on that wall and then it was like then it had to evolve than the horse and they needed special effects. The horse had to be walking through space and then they'd had to be all these different. You're right the sub genres and so do you think it all kind of re coalesce at some point or are we so far. Down The tributaries of sub-genre culture that there's like no going back into the venture tie itself back together. You think so it has to. You can't stray. You can't say that far from from from the mother right now and not come back to it because eventually it's going to. It's like stretching something it's GonNa get so thin that it doesn't matter anymore right and it's got to come back to to where it has some substance again. Yeah I mean it blows my mind to think that on any given night like in the seventies that forty million people would watch which you know. The population was lower back then so that was like a real considerable chunk of this country. We're all watching the tonight show and they were watching you know if a comedian put out a thing everyone thought and now you can still have a big thing and somehow not everyone knows what it is. I look I I've had. This is my ninth special. I haven't done one talk show. I haven't done one I I don't. I don't know if I was refused. It doesn't it doesn't matter that or it really doesn't. I'm like what difference does it make. Now Yeah I think there's two there's two shows that definitely madder to do and that'd be that could that that that would be that act like Carson type of thing and the seventy s and it'd be Howard Stern right or maybe Joe Rogan experience right. Those are the two that that people will actually pay attention to right right right right and the good news is friends with Joe Ben uses. I've never done stern. I never have either. No no for sure you would have done. No No. I've never done either but I think that's why when all the COMEDIANS. You should really do. Rogan'S PODCAST I don't know if he's done ours really has he's impressed because he hasn't do anybody's. This was a few a few years ago but it. I think it's part of the reason. Why all the COMEDIANS gravitated toward podcast because we realize while there's not people aren't doing comedy on TV much anymore. Me When I did eventually get offered to like Corden. Yeah they're like they want you to do stand up ago. I haven't been doing stand up thirty one years. I'm not auditioning on TV again. Right Right Right. Just nothing personal. It's just like I tell stories I'd like to what's the four minute young every piece of this set kind of relies on the context of the other pieces of that. It's like here's a piece of the Mona Lisa. Which isn't I need to see the home visit. The hand is at the I. Amount. Yeah you need this whole thing. I completely agree with you. It's sort of hard to figure out it's great for new comics. Yes because they're doing seven minutes sets in the club to line. Joe Comics. Yeah you can just lift out to two or three lines of jokes and Super Fast High Hijo per minute ratio. Yeah it's it it works. It's set up for a very specific type of comic but the good news is that it. You don't need to do it so you just keep tour. Yeah I mean I don't care either way anymore. Why it's not GonNa make a difference not gonNa Make Dent. I was I was just in Columbus and Brian Regan first of stop bragging. Sorry I don't mean to bring out my highfalutin words like Columbus Ohio but I will be there soon. It's a great town at the punchline. Was that the no the funny bone. I'll be at the funny bone and it's super high end like Grove Style Mall. There's like all these comments. Yes I was. I was kind of giving the crutcher. Is that the one where the hotels directly across. Yeah update that mall or something. Mall is insane. There's like a Louis Vuitton store coach store burberry and I was asking the crowd. Like what do you guys have a Louis Vuitton store? Your median house prices. One hundred sixty five thousand dollars and of course they laugh and then I would meet people afterwards. And they're like we like to spend money in Columbus Ohio. They've just going through a period of financial boom boom like consumerism. Because they're everything else is so cheap. Yeah I guess so. Cheap houses cheap cars but regan came by after his show was the same night and he came by afterwards. We were talking and by the way Reagan one of the nicest human beings on the planet and I love him because he just he doesn't get to hang out with comics at his shows because he's isolated and writers that he does so he just loves to cause. I saw like a week or two after my show he was hanging out with Jackie. Maria Bamford at their show at night. He's just such a comic's comic and a guy that also doesn't rely on he doesn't do talk show sets he doesn't have to he just he tours. The people know they're going to see a great show and they come back and they bring friends the next time they see him. That's the way to do it. And that's what I love about like the purest stand up comedians. In a way they're sort of impervious to this whole like social media culture. You've got to put your stuff and it's like no. They don't do it but it's more out of like because I'm bored. I hate doing social media. I hate doing the instagram. And if people are weird I yeah I I don't like it man. It's just people are going to know where you are. GonNa find me what I'm going to tell you everything. Get Out of here. Yeah and we're taking away thinking from people. Well not only that but I think the idea that social media really drives engagement in the real world. I think we're I think. Hopefully we have learned like it doesn't it doesn't matter how much you live tweet. Us show. It doesn't matter how many times you say on social media you're going to be a city. A tiny percentage of people be like. Oh I saw on twitter that you usually you talk about one hundred times you do a town and then a day later like when you come into Denver. I was just there. I didn't know. Yeah that's my. That's exactly a man huge fan. When you come in you. Fuck you fucking idiot. I was just there no big Fan. Dick really aggressive with the fame. And you'll get a little jerk. How dare you not share you anyway? Thanks for coming your next time. We'll see anyway month. Yeah so do you want to do email list at all anything we don't do. I don't even I hide out in the green room after the shows to what what fascinates me is that the fact that and this I think is antithetical to sort of our modern digital culture. Is that terrestrial? Radio does work. It does like I find when I go into a market. If there's a handful of tickets left and I do a morning radio show that people listen to it. Moves that last Trumka tickets like there's still real power in traditional media maybe for you maybe for you know. I don't know I I don't like doing it because I feel like those guys don't know who I like. Most of the time my my head is nobody knows who I am. That's how I that's how my world is. Maybe it's a healthy place to come from though maybe because in my head it's like nobody knows who you are. You going to walk into these stations. They're gonNA stare at you and then they're going to treat you like a jerk and then they're gonNA they're gonna ask you the fucking most annoying question. You can ask a comic so we'll could people expect from your show comedy. Show what do you? What do you hope to expect a lot of a lot of tears and sadness? I'm pioneering stand up tragedy and so a lot of sad story. Everyone goes home but most people statistics. Laugh at me because there are some shows that you go on and they want you to. They WANNA say forbids. And it's like I don't really. I'm not trying to do funny. You should ask. I'm just trying to like we talk. We could see what was it should ask. It was that other Byron our show. Oh out kicking it. No that's wasn't it wasn't kicking at one. There was another one before that. Oh the OH comics. Comics unleashed unleashed. Is that it. Yeah so I I hear you were just in Columbus Ohio interesting. I was as a matter of fact you know what I noticed about. Gas Stations like somehow take a turn but I guess it's just part of the lazy to me. Yeah and I'm Lazy Lazy and I'm going to be lazy. We're just GONNA sit here staring at each other but you but you can riff and not. Everyone is a river in that sort of hard to explain. Sometimes we just talk about whatever and we'll just make fun because we're in the moment and we're having a conversation. They don't know how to do that. They go oh we have. We should have a talking point. Oh No it doesn't need to. You don't need that you don't need that I can tell you from the other side of it though. Having I worked on radio in the ninety s and it is you do have to fill a lot of time. Not everyone can do what you do in a room and so they just. It's sort of like how you used to go on talk shows even if you were doing a couch segment. It was almost it was to screw. It was to you like this. And then you say this. Oh my God. This is like an acting exercise. Now this isn't like you know what bothers me about that because I feel like that all turn turn to that in the nineties because when you watch old carson it's amazing dude like guys just show up and like beyond the show and they would just talk like a podcast they would just like Johnny made it fun and like you say they were genuinely enjoy each other. You Watch Dean Martin and those guys and when they would hang out on the roads or the Dean Martin show that late night show would just drop in and hang out and it was just fun. It was cool there. I've been down some rabbit holes from Carson rabbit holes and it's been really fascinating to watch like Richard Pryor or Carlin on yet. They weren't funding. They weren't funny like they wouldn't really do bits like every once in a while they would get a laugh from the crowd but it was just it was just like it was fucking conversation just like talking and at a certain point and probably the eighties that shifted. And they're like Oh let's everyone's gotTa do bits and jokes and sketches. Let's make this better right. I I've gone down the Dick Cavite rabbit hole early. Oh yeah there's a ton of old to Cavite stuff popping up on Youtube. He was really sort of the FI I think he was one of the godfathers of like the podcasting format where he would just talk to someone. I don't understand him though because I never find him funny. He's not trying to be funny but he is but he he really bad it was like but he he was just trying to keep the ball in the air and then step out of the way he would sort of you know like poke. Bette. Davis gathered to tell the story and then he would back out of the way and then occasionally like you and Groucho and then like they would start to tell the story than he would back out of the way. I think he was just trying to keep the ball in the air. It's uncovered to watch them with when he would interview. Black people really. Yeah it it's because you know the thing is he. He was like cool with them and and he was friends with them and he wasn't racist by any means. That's not why I'm going with this. But it was that over it. 'cause 'cause the time it was in the eighties he would try to overly project at their friends that might have been in the sixties and the seventies no. I watched the show and the yeah. He was going for a while. Oh wow he was going for a while ago earlier. Yeah I saw with Eddie Murphy on there. Oh and then he would try to make like a black joke really because no because it's like as if your friends you can do that. Oh he was trying to establish what he was trying to make it. Look like yeah and it would just fall flat. Because he's Dick Cabinet. Yeah and it's like it's like your like your dad or your granddad and you don't you don't need to try to do. Yeah it's it's you should watch it. It's kind of I will. It's it's I'll watch the Murphy. As they as they say the kids nowadays it was cringe worthy. Well one of the things that I've so enjoyed about Eddie. Murphy's kind of like re emergence into the public consciousness is how much joy he seems to have like he could. He doesn't shy away at all from like he seems totally willing to like. T- tells these great stories about when he first became like one of the biggest celebrities in the world. He's not afraid to talk about stuff and he seems to talk about it with like a real glee Alger and the fact that he is so embraces it so much delights me and makes it so fun to watch him. Yeah I mean look I got to last year. I got to go to this thing. I wasn't invited but I got so tiffany. Haddish text me. I text her. A picture of I tiffany a picture of my mom and her last year. And then tiffany replied. I said my mom loves because Oh my God I loved your mom she goes. Guess what I go watch. Because I'm on my way to Eddie's house and I was like Oh my murphy. Gosh and she's like yeah I go. Wow I said that's so cool. I only met him for a second once. Your because you wanna come and I was like. Are you serious? She was yeah. I'll come scoop you if you WANNA go. Oh my God and I'm like I was with my girlfriend and she was pregnant at the time. I'm like where at dinner and I'm like. Hey Babe can I go? We'll go thank God because I would hate for you to be a single mom. So tiffany pick me up and we go to Eddie. Murphy's House and we walk in the House and I'm in complete I'm numb with like I can't believe having because he was like you know I got Eddie Murphy source of nineteen eighty six You know So we get to his house. We go in the basement and as you walk downstairs the first person I see Jamie Foxx And I'm like Jose James. What's up man? I'm like Hey Jamie. And then they turn around. And he's Okay. Russell thanks coming. I'm like Eddie Murphy knows my name has been and moving on and then you'll Brennan's there right and then I hear behind me. Is this what you comedians always do you guys just hang out and I turn around? And it's q tip from tribe called quest only what's up tip because they know all these guys and then. I look at the bar and I see Sasha Baron Cohen standing behind the bar and then I'm like. Is this the fucking movie by the way? This sounds like an old bugs. Bunny sketch where he walks into yet. Like every remarkable body was there so Sasha Baron Cohen's behind the bar aisle officials sitting at the bar and then I see bill hader than Jimmy Kimmel. Dentist Patent Oswald then Pignataro than I see. Allie Wong I see Jeff Ross and then I hear behind me how Shatman rows operators and I turn around and Chapelle walking down the stairs and I'm like what the fuck if I walked into by the way the sounds like the greatest open mic. Like did it just like you? This show of everyone getting up and doing ten minutes. Yeah and then and then I'm standing there and I see his black to with blonde hair coming us. There's goes at Cisco and it was like Knows Chris. Rock for some reason he had his hair dyed blonde really. Yeah and I'm like what what is this. Where am I what world in my in right now? Everyone else must have had the same surreal experience. I mean Kimmel talked about it one night a matter of fact. Kimmel talked about it when Eddie Murphy was on a show. Yeah and he was like talking about. Everybody was every failed to mention me which really bothers me this day. That's how fucking memorable I am to him and what happened did show so then. I'm just like I want to get a drink. And then it was like I got to kill and then I go. What are we doing? I put this down I go. I don't WANNA be no. I WANNA remember a part of this night of course so I'm I'm not saying a word to anybody because I'm just literally like Gobsmack. I'm like I can't believe what I'm in right now. Right and then I'm standing in a doorway like this and and it's Eddie Chris Rock Jamie Foxx beside me Neal Brennan and we're standing there talking about comedy. Oh my God and they're like so when you're gonNA come back and and and he's like I don't know I got like five minutes bands. You GotTa really and you guys really work hard at it and and then and I'm like I'm literally not saying a word and I'm like I can't believe it's not like you know sometimes when you're standing when people are talking and you can get the vibe that somebody's thinking. Was this guy doing here right. You know what I mean. Do you think that's a real vibrant but that wasn't happening? Oh it wasn't. That wasn't the VIBE I was like. That's why state I was like so cool. I wasn't finding those situations like you. Because you know your brain and it's an overthinking kind of thing where you're like say something cool say something cool and then there's a gap and then you say something like comedies. My favorite and then everyone's like that's that's exactly honestly that's exactly why didn't open mouth because I know what a fucking idiot I am and that's exactly what I would have done? You should come back and do end up is fine. You're so good at it. The Laugh Factory Eddie Murphy gotta go. Yeah Yeah I had a great story to. Tell anybody. I didn't tell them that either. Yes sometimes the it's like you're gonNA kick yourself either way driving home. It's either going to be because you said something stupid or because you didn't get involved and you didn't say anything at all. Yeah so maybe it's like how do you Kinda just let it go the COO? The cool part of this whole thing other than everything Was like tiffany. Took me there? But then tiffany got so tired. She fell asleep on his couch. And I was like. Who Don't want to wake up Ktichen. You took me home right and I and it's like three forty five in the morning now and I'm like I don't WanNa be like to get your address for an Uber and my head of all these scenarios like am. I going to sleep over at any Murphy's House. Oh my God Jimmy Pajamas. I could borrow and I'm like I'm not gonNA live here for the rest of my life didn't start. Your brain goes mental. Because you guarantee you Eddie Murphy is like Oh. I have pajamas like he seems like the kind of guy that would just give you if you needed pajamas. He'd have a setup Pajama. I feel like. He's Kinda smile and be like. Hey Man I'll see you later. Thank Goodness Arsenio was there and Arsenio goes all right. Y'All I'm Outta go. Hey would you get what you are you going to? Ours he goes. I'm going down to the valley. Go perfect can I get a ride to venture? Oh great in the corner like Beverly Glen Adventure. I'll take a new at the over from there. And then so he takes me. We Start Driving. Go here writer. Pullover goes I can leave you on the fucking corner Beverly Glen Venture like four in the morning. We're GONNA I'M GONNA Woodland Hills I go. That's perfect I'll go there and then I'm a mile away from there. Yeah because I'll just take you home. That's nice and I was like. Wow So tiffany took me and Arsenio Birmingham. There's no better way to book and that story. This is what's great and it's sort of like what I was talking about. Brian Regan to comics are always comics. And they're always GonNa want to talk about comedy understand it and they're all even with like Eddie. Murphy's thing like I duNNo. I only got five minutes. They're always sort of looking over the fence like oh I don't. I don't know if I'm I don't know if I should do that so I'll let you like there's still that sense of never feeling like you're never feel completely never feel complete. You never feel comfortable. You always feel like you're missing something or you don't have enough of something. And and it's it's a bummer. But it's also charming at the same time it also is what keeps US moving. Yeah and you know I think I went through a little melancholy phase maybe to the latter part of last year and I started really considering leaving L. A. I was like I'm GONNA leave. Fuck this place I hate it go. I'M GONNA move to fucking Texas or something. Yeah I think I've literally started looking online as like look in Nashville and look what was it. What do you think I don't know you just go through your getting your head you get in your head and then you're like I don't know fuck this place. Nobody cares. Nobody's GonNa notice if I leave you know. But you which is funny because it if you look at sort of the empirical data you have this really great touring business. People do know who you are. They do come out to your shows. It is a really hard thing to to convince people to put on pants and leave their house and park their cars and sit down and pay a lot of money and that's a very hard and focus. That is a really hard thing. It is hard to sell tickets. You know what it was. But I hadn't gotten back out on the road yet or we're going on my new AC okay and I think I was so scared of not being able to come up with anything got it and I was so away from it for a couple of months. Yeah that I I've just got in my own head and now I literally am in a place where it's like fuck it. I don't give a shit anymore right. I don't want it I don't care about it. I just I'm loving. I'm loving doing. Stand up my thirty first year. It's this is what I'm GonNa do for the rest of my life. It's it's fine and it's exactly what I want to be doing. And now I I I guess when you change your inward energy your outward energy changes to so of course it then everything that I thought. Was You know? The problem is not the problem and everybody turns out they like. Hey Man I'm like okay. It is okay guys. It's funny how much you're you're convinced of a certain reality. Yeah this is totally it and and then you kind of start finding reasons without realizing it to build that case to strengthen that case. Oh Yeah Yeah you can and then I started realizing that I wasn't even taking my own advice and I was like you know house. Tell people when you live. There's two roads there's negative road and the positive road. Why would you take the fucking negative road right and I started going down the negative road and I go? What's a hard to get off of? It is hard to get off and you can. You can build either like once you start down either path. You're going to find reasons to start laying roots down absolutely and it is hard to get out of because you kind of have to backtrack a little bit to figure out how to get to the other one. But yeah and I'm one of those people that doesn't matter what it is in life. I don't like going back negative distance right. This is the watering forward too bad. We're not going back. Hey should we ask the governor Metroplex? I'm not asking anybody for nothing. Why it just doesn't. It's not the way things are going. I'm a bitch but it's important because I think in most people's lives whatever they've convinced theirselves themselves about the reality. A percent at least percentage if their perception of that were altered would change the kind of. And you're right. It changes your outward energy because you can tell when people have inward energy and you can tell when people are comfortable and you can tell when people are trying too hard which is also afraid of. Am I going to be out there trying to harm? I GONNA look desperate. I didn't know what the fuck I was thinking. Yeah and my. My whole team was worried about me because they were like something's going on with that guy and I'm like I don't know what to Fox going me alone but it's just normally thing that everyone everyone goes through. I think I you know I guess it lets. You know that you're human. It's the it's the life equivalent of you. Talk to someone at a party you leave. You're driving home you replay the highlights from the party. Go Oh my God. I made this one. I made this one joke to someone. And they just split up with someone and they're going to be upset because they thought I was making fun of relate in all my God they hate me. Oh my God that's why tree I'm saying then you're dead the next time you see him talking. I'm so sorry about that thing. I said the last and that was like what are you talking about? Like you've built this whole case against yourself that Chris Rock. I thought I said something really stupid to him and then I thought I said some really dumb to his girlfriend and then I was like fuck. He's he hates my guts now. Yeah and then I was like I called Tony. His brother Mike Tony you a texture brother and tell them I apologize and you know the remotely In in in in inappropriate that night or whatever. And it's like with you say to him I go. I don't do because my brother won't remember. Shit that you said to him. I go you series it goes. I'm I promise you won't remember. And then I called like his cousins Sharon small shrug and you know. He's got a note and I can. Jeff Roscoe Jeff can you imagine to him pal and I'm like no you're not nobody's GonNa say yes but then but then the other thing is that you might make a thing out of it by trying to I really over thought it and I saw Chris and everything was normal totally normal and fine. Okay but that's just a good lesson for like the stories that we tell ourselves are not like whatever store you tell yourself might be true because you make it true but it doesn't necessarily make it an objective reality right like when. I did your game show. Yes yes I was sure. You'd remember that. Can I tell you what happened with did so? Many episodes of that I know I know I know but in my head is like there's no way he won't remember that. I won I. I've run into people that I was like. It's more actors not comedians but actors like Oh my God you know you should have been doing some time and they go. Yeah I did it and I had no because you live so much in your short term. Memory that your brain just scoops out and you start over the next day You know with six hundred episodes like I've started to go back and watch some of the Hashtag Games like Oh these were really fun and I had literally zero. Meme like it's like I'm watching someone else's show and a whole new thing. Yeah it's like when I mean like a celebrity that I may have interviewed added talk show back years ago and I and I'm like hey how are you remember me and I'm like wow and I'm like fuck that person. They think they're cool. I never I don't that never bothers me because I I do understand like especially. When they're in that moment there could have been like one of five things they did that day. Should I know now? Yeah but if you take it real time you're the again that was that's a different Russell again. Like I was over a hypersensitive when you're when you're and to me it's a sign of weakness like you're not a week. Guy Russell or the gag hypersensitive. Well not only not only the hypersensitive thing but I think it's very difficult for. It's very difficult for someone who works in the creative arts were. There's kind of a relatively non linear reward system. Mike how do we know? We're doing a good job so we set up all these things that kind of feed our ego because we think oh well. That's being fed. That must mean that. I'm doing if people remember me that people come out to my shows if I invited to certain parties if I get asked to do certain things that is a sign but what we really just want to hear is like your enough your complete. You're doing okay. Which by the way we could just tell her. We just accept with our president. We we look around. We should be able to look around us and go. Oh yeah we're doing good. Yeah we're doing good here. Yeah I didn't I didn't have to get a job I hate. Where'd you grow up? What primarily? Well I've been la since eighty eight. But like I grew up in Memphis and I lived in Denver for a while and Florida or Tennessee. Guy I yes I was born in Kentucky but I always say I'm from Tennessee because I spent considerable chunk of my childhood. I do like Tennessee. Yea I've never been to memphis but this is a cool town. Nashville is great. I love everyone loves Nashville. Memphis is cool. It but there's comedy hasn't really like embrace memphis the way someone either has English. Hey there. Hey y'all doing my stepmom scratches or Mississippi and she adds syllables two words. That don't have extra syllables. There's just like a drawl down there where everyone just Soda Tau Slack the down there. But it's so I do consider myself southern but I've been in La for thirty. I would never have guessed in now. No it doesn't I don't feel I mean I feel a connection to it by memories. I have memories. Where where did you? Grow UP TORONTO. You grew up in Toronto. Toronto is a great place for comedy. Too especially I started eighty nine so it was right as the boom was ending. Yeah so that was the best time to start because nobody cared about comedy. Nobody was paying attention to it. Make all the fucking mistakes you want in the world and nobody's looking at you. Yeah Yeah I always found that. I think it was really interesting. That you know Montreal's Jeff L. Was like that was like A. That was such a badge of honor as a new comic to Montreal. And I've done Montreal a bunch and I've had this experience and I've seen other. Comedians had this experience. There's just enough of a cultural difference that it's for a new comic. It can be very jarring to have like an audience of Quebec Qua- and you're doing like these American jokes that are real talkie and don't have the same references or even the same cultural language and know it's like you can have a rough set and then a juggler gets up and fucking destroys down so I always wanted an interesting place for new American comedians. Because the Canadian comic. Because it's because it's its own bubble and it's a beautiful city in. It's a wonderful culture. But it really is. Its own bubble and if you're an outsider. You're an outsider. The first time I did it was ninety six. Yeah and that was the first year they did this. This show called comedy night in Canada and I was. You had to fly myself in and put myself up but I was like. It's just a blast. I'm GONNA do it. Yes and then. They put me on these comedy night in Canada shows and they I was the only non white person on these shows and they put me on. I both nights and I was so fucking mad. I was like. Are You fucking kidding me? Do you can't just bury me into the middle of show or the end like you. GotTa throw me on. Let's get rid of this one. Oh Man I took it so personally. You know what I mean. I was like because ingrowing Emma Kennedy. I dealt with a lot of racism so it was like doing this shit again. They're fucking with me again right. Did you think that's what was happening? I don't even think they noticed they were just like I don't know put them on their because my name you're not GonNa you're not gonNA know by name. You can see Russel Peters wherever that is put that put that guy on first right right right and so was Russell. Peters Brown was there. Was there an expectation? About the type of comedy. The audience thought you were going to do no. I don't know what it was. I I mean I I did okay. Yeah I by no means that great and Mike Mike McDonald was hosting and he goes. Hey Kid backstage and I go. I'm really nervous so You know pretty nervous. And then he goes. What do you want me to say I go? I know several Toronto. I guess I don't know them because I got really nervous. I'm like maybe it's better that maybe had said you were from Toronto. Maybe the crowd would've turned on you. Yeah but you know I I was just I if you're not in this business. I don't know if you came around this. You're the only one in your family in this business I am. It's the same. You don't know what to do right. You don't know how to act you don't know how to. I mean I'm still meandering. My way through this fucking business sure but but ultimately I feel like the thing that we arrive at is when you can peel back all the layers then just be the most comfortable version of you. That's when the magic happens but fuck. That's really hard to get to that point. And like you got like the people like Brad Pitt. Nobody in his family's in the in the business but you know he's beautiful right. You know what I mean like. He's it's you know. And they got a lot of these people that are just really pretty people so being a beautiful human being physically is like being famous entire life. People treat you differently so what so because I feel like there's a lot of different identities at play because you have the cultural background that like your ancestry but then you're Canadian cultural background but then also like a connection to America versus like also performing in Montreal. And having that so where do you do do? Did you eventually just sort of feel like you know what I mean. I'm all of these things. Yeah and none of these things. That's that's where I'm at now and like I think that's why Canada so loyal to me because I always number one. I always same Canadian And number two. I always it's at a point. Now where when? I'm when I go to events in L. or at Hollywood party type. Yeah we've looked. Hey Russell Long. In town forego fourteen years. Now you fucked an. How long have I been here a long time? I feel like one of the angriest kind of threads from a joke that that I saw I was. I was doing Falun a few years ago and I mentioned that I was going to go to to just for laughs and I said I'm going to Montreal or as I call it practice France and I just thought like goes as stupid throwaway joke and people are really mad mad over any the comments and the threat. I posted it somewhere and they were like America sucks. I'm not saying anyone talks. I was just say I'm sorry. I wasn't truly say Canada. Where we're America's hat was. That sounds familiar with cameras. Where America's hat but I do find comedy in Canada to be a wonderful experience and it's Toronto Montreal Vancouver Adamant There's so many great places to perform there and I find the crowds to be engaged and warm and welcoming. Because you're Mr them now. Oh is that really? Yeah try coming up in that okay. It's a bummer. Buddy was it while you get good comics candidate because the audiences are difficult. Yeah they do they do not WANNA laugh. Yeah Yeah Yeah I don't I literally have to make me fucking laugh boy so it is a little bit of a battle. Yeah they're like make me laugh and they pride themselves on being miserable in that respect. But isn't that kind of a gift in a way when you're coming up because if you can figure out how to navigate that well that's what makes the great comics because we know how to how to cut through that bullshit and then once once you crack the code. You don't get that anymore from them right. You know what I mean once once once you figure out. I know I understand that. That's what you're trying to do but here's what I'm going to do for that right right right and And then it goes away. Yeah when a new comic. That's what you're dealing with you coming up. You'll like mcmath boy and so with the first time you went to Montreal. What happened did it lead to lead to nothing okay? It led to me being in debt for the flight. The hotel me thinking you know and it was ninety six when they were given out deals. Let's let's say right now is like a deal and I do I had. Oh my God. I said the dumbest things to people trying to be clever. I no clue. Do you think that the sort of like the the blessing and the curse of the comedian is the overactive kind of like like? If we didn't over analyze everything. Do you think we would sort of lose the comedy power? We would lose something because it turns on you to turns on yourself. You know what it is. It's we're we're still the same kid that was like hey you're not allowed to say that. Okay Yeah and you're like but why not? I'M GONNA say the march nothing's going to happen right and then in my head. I was like that's probably say that and I'm like fuck made you say that. But do you feel that that power of like do you get more control over it as you get older where you well? Yeah I mean again. You go through these. You're you're a snake you're always shouting your skin. Yeah so yeah you eventually figured out you listen. We don't really fully. Nobody really fully figures out this entertainment business. We're on our deathbed and like shit can have ten more years. Just give me the light yet. Just give me five more minutes. Oh my God yes. You're literally running the light that you're supposed to walk. They're getting the light. I was going to close with this. This didn't go the way I planned. So when you said you know you went through this period of depression start period. You didn't know what you were going to say which is so funny. Because you know you had like eight other specials. I imagine that proved that. Yeah I know I keep finding stuff to say and you also know that you can riff. What how much? How much did you have when you went on stage at that point? Start with zero zero and you literally start with zero and it's because I don't really know what direction I'm going in. I don't know what I WANNA talk about until I got up there and you think that's your body trying to process and purge whatever sort of style. No that was my brain going thinking too much. Then you get on You. Just do it right. It's like Oh my God. I can't swim in the pool okay. True I'm treading. I'm good I'm good. Sorry guys panic as much as I- riff on stage. I've never I've had those shows right here. You know what I was going to go up with nothing and then just kind of see if I can feel myself out and usually the terrorists know like I need a base of material to at least be able to go back to when when the riffing stuff isn't working but just to go up on stage with nothing and just kind of see what pans out like that is not I it trips me out and scares me and and honestly it freaks out but I. I don't think I want to like when you say how you sit down and you write your laptop. I'm like I envy that ability to focus like that And that's why if you have kids throw your laptop out the window. 'cause 'cause they will it's not gonNA work. Yeah and what was for you? What was different about this special? Did it feel different? Was It really? I think I'm really like because I just think of us. As these like blocks of marble that we're just constantly chiseling and chiseling and chiseling and chiseling away at until it becomes a very detailed thing. I liked this new special But I've seen a lot of people who hated online. Oh I've seen people hate it or love it. I haven't seen anybody on ads all right so it was that good then because it's not because if something's polarizing is that better than it just like people doing man Yeah. I mean it's better than right in an I mean ultimately but obviously the the haters are louder than the shirt and the people that enjoy it sure. The manager usually hears about the complaints not the compliments and how has just because as we are emerging all these different platforms Amazon specials on versus. Like it's like I don't even know in three years like what the comedy platforms are going to be. Is it going to be? It was on Netflix Oars. Like someone else GonNa. I don't even I like to think of myself as a pioneer and I've got an idea for the next one you do. I got an idea for where it's going to go in and I'm working on it from now. Okay yeah is it like a different completely. New Platform signed a new platform. But it's a new way of doing it okay. Yeah so and it's it cuts out something. I don't want to say too much. You don't have to think much but just but just from someone who you said sort of got your start. Because in the earliest days of Youtube that was a whole new thing of realizing. Oh these things that we're putting onto the Internet are not regional. This is the Earth's Internet. Yeah I mean I didn't even put it on there. Someone else did. Yeah 'cause I'm still completely computer illiterate to this day. But that's why when you say you right on your computer. I'm like how do you do that? Like justice like I literally just be sending. I'd have to send emails to somebody in order to figure out how to send something and save it. I like that would be like. Hey Chris and I would just ignore this email. This is just me reading my act and then I would type and I would have to send it to you just so I don't lose it in the twenty two years that I've been doing standup the it's only been the last few that I've done computers before it was just I had notebooks yet. Then it just started like the Cross referencing. And where was that flipping pages and then having to bring a notebook around being terrified to lose it? You know I just I finally just turned it over to digital and I just got used to it. It's not what I would prefer to do but it just as does it feel like you're not as connected to it when you're doing it through the computer. No because I I. My brain has just found a way to connect with it in a way that that I am you relearn how to yeah well and I also I like I create file history and so like you know I'll type out. You know like jokes that I want to do for the Thursday night and a show and then on the Friday all go through and make edits and change stuff and then I'll save that as that file for that date so like I have a file history of that really kind of walks through the evolution so I don. I don't even know how to do that. I literally didn't like when I used to write out my act very early in my career. I would write it out literally if I said I would right And I was like wow I. I wish I really had those notes though. I would love to find those notes. Well it's sort of the guys like I need to write stuff down to remember them but there are the Chapelle world who are just like. I've never written anything down. Yeah it just all and I've seen him over a week. I was at the punchline once and he was also there and so they just he just kept headlining a Ni- open for him for a series of shows like ten years ago and I watched him start with this kind of Blob of a conversation. That was still funny but then over the next three days. Just Watch get whittled into this fucking sculpture of peace. And he never wrote any of it down he just remembered it and that in those reductive like three hour sets and somehow that's just how his brain works and I was so an audit because mine doesn't always like I would have to wait. What did I say? Oh I wrote it down okay. I have my assistant watching me and be like. Hey the way you did it tonight was the way to do it. You know which is helpful because in a way the idiot will text me while I'm on stay. You know what I mean like like my phone's right there and I keep it face down like this but I just sometimes flip it over to check the time and I'll see my agent my My sister techs go of something wrong. And I'm like sorry guys. I'm fucking idiot while I'm on stage. You text me but an airplane mode. Don't get smarter could say that. Was that a line. I was way out. I don't need I don't need your logical solution to dump problems so now that the special is out are you? Did you stop doing all those jokes? Oh I kinda stopped doing them. The second recorded it. Yeah well I still had some dates left so I kept that but I was like I was prepared to let it go right away and so are you already like way into the next one by now. You must be because listen. I started January. Second right with getting with going up nothing and now what are we at almost February February mid February and I think I've got about twenty minutes. Now that's great and as far as I'm a pretty good fucking amount of time to have in a month so do you is is the idea. What's your turnaround like is it. I have to be ready by June. Holy Shit. Yeah you're already shooting another special. No no no. I'm ready to tour. Oh Gotcha Gotcha Gotcha Gotcha. But what's your. What's the turnaround for due respect? If you've done nine specials you must do a special about every year to know I. I've been doing them every three. Oh Wow yeah I I'm like I don't see the purpose of doing them. Every two years the material it doesn't it doesn't benefit the material. Because you have to live with it for a long time to yeah real right. Yeah I always think back to like my best specials were like when I had a little bit more time And so let's go back. There's no rush is enough specials out there for to fill the space. In the meantime probably better specials even is your plan to. Do you think you'll be a guy that does specials until like your last breath? I don't think I want to do anymore specials but I'm going to do a tenth and then you gotTa do. Yeah we'll we'll hit the nice even ten mark and then then we'll just see what happens. I mean but I always say these things. And then there'll be an eleventh and there'll be a fucking twelve Bob Newhart told me a long time ago. That what we have is a gift and that we have to share the gift it would be completely selfish of us to not share this gift with the world and he said there's no there's due date on this you share it until the until you die. I loved his the way that the first time that I had heard like a legend many many many many years ago I wrote an article for wired and I talked to a bunch of different COMEDIANS. Like him and Stephen Right. This is like before podcasts. Seen before I did a podcast so maybe even fifteen years ago and just sort of talking to them about their process and to hear this legendary comic that he would because he does these long. Act Out pieces. So I would I would build in a bailout point several bailout points and if I could get to that bailout point. People were still engaged. I would go to the next bailout but if I started to lose people then I would just bail out so essentially would write like five or six endings for every bid in heading on how in the audience was. He could just get out at the perfect moment. Wow I don't write that way. But he's a really brilliant mind and knows how to economize words perfectly. Yeah so Ten years ago I was lucky enough for him to choose me out of everybody. He chose me to be the representative for the younger generation of comics and be there for him at his induction for the fifty fifty years in film and Television and I was like so taken aback and and honored and then so we had this private dinner after an invited me. And I'm sitting at a table Peter. Ska Lara fetus. Gloria I know Peter. Yes and Fred Willard and I'm like wow. This is Don rickles is there. Don was one of my idols and So bob gets up to tell a story and there's this woman there I won't say who she was she was the wife of a very well to do. Tv producing and she was drunk and kind of obnoxious. So Bob's about he's like I WANNA thank everybody. I WanNa tell you a quick story. And then she's like this is going to be funny. Bob Bob just going to be a funny story. Oh this is going to be funny and then everyone's like fun and and then Bob just goes. Why don't we all find out together and I was like that's fucking perfect must have killed it destroyed and I'm like it was perfect like he. He maybe he took a flaw and made it like. That's what I love about comedy like spinning gold out of the flaws like magic out of the flaws I I would have been like shut. Fuck up yeah. But he needed that moment to happen. In order to engage the audience and hold them in have like this amazing experience. If it hadn't happened you wouldn't remember that. So in a way that sort of the the beauty part about about being able to be in the moment like that those imperfect moments become like. Oh Yeah how we Save Them. Is Jim Andy? I'm opening for you. Some on this weekend in love Jay. He's such a sweet guy. He's usually funny he's a he's a good guy he's a good kid. Yeah he really is worked hard. He has an amendment the comedy store and he did at midnight and he had an amazing first time. He was on the show. He had an amazing for show was really great. I'm glad I'm glad during with him is a good kid. Is there anything else you want to promote? While you're here Deported deported now. That's that's that's special. Now that's a special. Thank you watch it on Amazon. Prime video town near you soon in grand rapids coming up in grand rapids is a fun combination. Gilda radner comedy. Yeah Yeah Yeah Gilda's laugh fest interest rate doing that on March eighth or something. Oh you'll love it. I mean confirm the date. It is a huge eight. That is a good. It is a good festival and a good town for comedy. I think you'll actually and I just wanted to deported his name of your Special Nada thing I was just saying I think Chris Hardwick suggesting that I get deported. Think that's what I was I am not a way that white point he had Mr. Have a hat on your man witnessed. No Way will not build a wall Russell again. Thank you enough for being always looking to see you and one of those. It's one of my favorite things about the always going to Montreal. It's like the shows are fun but it's just it's the hang one hotel with the round bar a high it just like it's God it's like a great and then you want to talk to people but then you get distracted so quick. Yeah Am L. Hey sorry hey man and then everybody off on each other and but nobody takes a personal no. No you didn't come back. No not at all not at all. It's Nice it's fun to be around everybody. Well thank you for being here. Having this castle is wonderful. Appreciate that I really want to see more of it. Yeah I show you around. Yeah we got to put some secret that we need to secret doors feels like a secret room this is. This was a secret room. This wasn't a room. We put the walls concrete. Under here it was a there was a patio above here so this was just like underneath the patio. And so we punch through and made the podcast. Russa's great sorry little podcast bomb shelter. Who I mean. This is meltdown comex. I don't know if you've ever performed at meltdown Noah. That was your thing. It was well. Joe Camel did their thing there and then we built like a sweet program the other nights of the week but they started it like they started doing comedy there on Wednesday nights and so it was just like A. Why isn't there comedy here? Seven nights a week. That was nerd melt. That was yes. Yes yes yes. That's gone now right. Yeah meltdown got he. He got rid of it. The guest on it closed. It's not it's something to now. He's gas off. Oh did it. 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Bret Debuts (WCW Monday Nitro 12-15-97)

83 Weeks with Eric Bischoff

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Bret Debuts (WCW Monday Nitro 12-15-97)

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The innovator of the end of you owe the Baga Hall of Famer no matter what anybody says have Eric Eric. What's going on man just enjoying the beautiful Saturday morning and Dunedin Florida could to Get my Christmas. Cheer on a little bit later today. We're starting to do some grocery shopping. Getting Ready for the big Christmas cooks of things are good. What's on the On the menu this year the The Michelle household okay. This is going to sound really strange to probably anybody buddy. Here's about to say but I'm making a Hannukah brisket all right. I'm not mad. Yeah Yeah my years ago years ago well not probably two thousand seven or eight or something like that. Lauren ironed kids. We're living in Arizona and Jason Hervey. Who was my business partner at that point? Close family friend. His parents coming down to Scottsdale to hang with Jason and his family. Jason Mewes family not too far from where I did in Arizona and being that they're you're Jewish and grew up in New York. I thought you know and they were coming over to our place for Christmas. I thought I'm going to make him a Hanukkah brisk so I went to the Food Network has whole bunch of recipes in there and I found a really really good russ recipe for Hanukkah brisket and Mrs be made Locke's like a little kind of a traditional Jewish pastry or not even patriots. It's almost like a version of a Hash Brown. But they're made lead differently so that's what we did for Christmas and were for no particular reason. We're not going to be Sharing Christmas with with any of our Jewish friends or family so for no particular reason we just decided to make a Hannukah brisket. And that's the plan you're making me look bad because I do have a Jewish family members who are going to be present and accounted for at the Conrad US and Christmas by just making a regular asked prime rib well. I would probably do something similar if I had my big green egg but being where at an AIRBNB and I've got one of those little propane name you know forty nine dollars. Walmart grows out in the back I decided I didn't want to try to make any really great cuts of meat on a grill so opted to go be brisket route. Well either way no matter what. You're sitting down to to dine on this Christmas. We appreciate that you're getting your Christmas. We started this week with thus here on eighty three weeks on Westwood one. And if you're still looking for some little last-minute stocking stuffers got an idea to get you some more or C.. Switching to boost mobile gives you more and more surprising people with more at every turn because boost doesn't offer just one great thing. They offer many great things. Things like our Subaru reliable super fast network. But there's more you get four free Samsung Galaxy phones for the whole family when you switch to boost. 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I think boost mobile's going to try to take over the world. Check it out boost mobile switch that gives you more. Let's talk about when you were trying to take over the world. That's our topic. Today December Fifteenth Nineteen ninety-seven. We're going to do a watch along for a very special edition of Monday nitro. It's very special because this is the episode where we're going to debut unbelievably bret breath. The hitman Hart say unbelievably because he was arguably one of the hottest most important figures in wrestling and now he's just jumped ship of of course we're on the heels of the Montreal screwed job. We'll talk about that and we're just a couple of weeks away from the biggest w pay per view of all time the greatest. WCW storyline rely on every day of course talking about staying in whole Cogan stark eight nineteen ninety seven. We've covered the long form in our cows. We've also talked about breath in WCW the archives. But this time we're actually going to get a little more context. Context is king my friend. And we're GonNa Watch this episode so far up the WW. We W network December Fifteenth Nineteen ninety-seven. I'll give you a quick count down three two one play when I say play you press play hopefully got mute. Maybe you've got your close captioning on and We'll get this thing going eric. Are you ready. I'm ready here. We go three two one even play. I love this Nitro Open just recently saw this on walked along episode with you and this is still the classic basic one. I know eventually you guys would change. And when he did the whole logo change the entrance would change. It's not the same man because this is when I was at the peak of my Phantom. So this is the one that I sorta most closely relate to when I think of Monday nitro. It was a great great intro Great Open in a you know it's really funny. Once we started getting rolling and certainly we were rolling strong here in ninety seven Man That when when an intro tro would come on and that music would start to play. You knew something really cool was going to happen. And that's that's that's a sign of a good intro here. We see are talking heads at the deaths from left to right Mike Tony Tony Vanni and Larry's Bisco it's always fun to go back and look at nineteen nineteen ninety-seven fashion. He C- Mike Delaney Rockin the the no caller shirt there on the laughed. But the all of them buttoned up. But then I'm sure for Tony. Issue Vanni Little Turtleneck and Blazer Larry's Bisco Larry was the the king style here was not he was a fashion east as well as You know one of the best wrestlers cm of the dummy staying coming down from the roof. Of course he just crashes right through in them and they dig him out out you know. The dumbest thing crashed through the map. Of course now it is not the dumbest thing great stuff that was that that was a hell of a seed it was it was the most walk in. Look they're super dave thing ever. But there's the Real Steve Board in the real thing look at the look on Hulk Hogan's face could he sell it. Oh my gosh. This was this might've White Van I. I don't know you know when I see a scene like this. I think to myself all this has got to have been one of the hottest season that whole sting and wwl Hulk Hogan story story like I mean it was just it was so good it was just so good. That's the thing I feel like there's like ten moments like that you know we've talked talked about you. Know uncensored ninety seven and the big chaos at the end of the show that was march. This is December. I mean these days when a storyline gets why. It's you know two weeks and three weeks in. It's not you know eight fucking Monsanto an estimate you give me an example just to cut you off brother but give me an example of a storyline in the last three years. That was white hot fair enough enough crickets. Do I hear okay just checking because if I miss that I WANNA know. But I don't think storylines shorelines are just not the emphasis. It doesn't appear any longer. I mean angles are. You know. We'll shoot an angle. We'll see something it makes us go. Oh Wow that's cool but I have yet. I would have a hard time putting my finger on what I would refer to as a storyline Over the last three or four years even marginally hot luke. Warm would be exciting sorry. Well there's been storylines for sure like let's take a w for example you know the whole cody Rhodes. MJ F- storyline. You know we all saw that coming of course first and they were. They were more patient with. I think maybe WB would've been at any given time recently but still you know it was it was months is not not near the the hall that it was here. I mean extinct becomes crow staying and September of Nineteen Ninety seven seven hundred ninety six and we don't see the sort of pay off with him and Hogan until December of the following year so over a frigging year. I mean look I mean that's unusual. We may or may not ever see that again. I think the audience today. The television audience is more often changed in a lot of that has to do with everything else that they see on television. You know people are really. They're binge-watching things now. They want they want. They want to see all ten episodes over the course of an evening with a bowl of popcorn and a six pack of beer right. They get their con their sports content as as all coming to them. You know other iphones in short short pieces Consuming everything so much faster today that I don't think the television audience. I don't think he could have a sustained twelve months story just because not because people aren't capable of coming up with one or the talent is incapable of executing it if they did but I just don't think the television audience today is interested or is willing to invest and maybe that's the key you know the cody 'em storyline relied. Yeah it was a a by today's standards that was a long running storyline. But it didn't have the drama to support it. I don't think a storyline just for clarification should be judged is by how long it plays out but how well it plays out over a long period of time. This story played out exceptionally well over a long period of time. Didn't it didn't end that well as we know but that wasn't because the story wasn't there it was because we made a bad choice to end that story but I think today it would be you really hard to find an audience for a protracted story but word is patients you know. We're an instant gratification. Twitter Society people won't real-time real time. They want now now. Now very impatient and I can't help but wonder how much of that is. Just the way of the world now through technology and things like that and how much of it is. Vince McMahon not having patients Vincent man it feels like you know I I on again I dunno knock you certainly But we hear that. He changes his mind a lot. You've heard that Yeah so the idea being you know he may He may love something today and then not tomorrow and tomorrow. It's the dumbest thing ever or at least that's what we hear. So Oh I guess my question is do you think that wrestling has maybe changed because society has changed in. The audience. Doesn't have patience or is Vince not willing adding to just have some patience. Hang in the pocket and invest the time to see sort of second guessing himself to the disadvantage of everywhere. I you know. I don't want to speak to. What makes Vince McMahon ticker how he thinks because I'm not capable of addressing that For a lot of reasons But I think in general it. It's a little bit of both right. It's you know on one hand if you're a producer sure writer-producer whatever you wanNA call it And you lay out a storyline of paper that you're excited about it. You get into knepper week or a two or three. You're not getting the kind of support in terms of ratings or or reaction in terms of ratings that you -ticipant eating then I think in general not just you the wwe or eight W or anybody else. The tendency is to start adjusting. The Tennessee is like oh we're not doing as well as we should have done with the store or as well as I thought what we would do this story or God forbid Oh my God the ratings are down this week. What are we going to do? You know in in in panic begins to ensue. Maybe not immediately but it slowly holy starts creeping in and as you pointed out people start second guessing themselves so I think what happens. Is You know what's happening is there's nobody in a lead creative position that I'm aware of that number one lays out a story for any length of time You know all been heard rumors for many many years. How certain wrestling organization to remain unnamed? But one can only assume or figured out I guess between the things. I'm about to say that. Generally there was a lot of long term planning working backwards. And all that I can tell you that that was not my experience. I can tell you that in most places you know weather was TNA and even in WCW by the way. I don't WanNa make it sound like a guilt. Free AETNA's But only a handful of our stories and ironically they ended up being some of the more interesting ones really were planned for a specific period of time or at least targeted over specific By targeted I mean we may have only planned. Let's run this program for three months. Get halfway into wouldn't realize well it's better than we thought AKA or for example the sting store. We never intended that story to play out over the course of a year when we sat down. I said okay. Let's let's do something that's never been done. Let's make this a twelve month. Storyline are actually longer than that wasn't the case really we. We knew we knew what the end of the story was going to be. We knew the premise of the story. That's a better way to say it. We we had a very clear picture of the premise of the story. The the first act in the second act and in the third act to a degree but I had no idea how how long it was going to play out we. I think we've probably talked about initially for three or four months as its life expectancy but once we got into it was like Holy Shit. There's a lot of stuff we can do with the story so that we can make make it last and that's what we did in the war. We always got about the way that they would be. F- was booked a generation ago ago. is they would sort of work backwards from Wrestlemainia they would just you know have their stuff sort of mapped out a year in advance and doesn't always feel that way in two thousand nineteen that's for sure now there's a lot of pressure you know. There's a lot of pressure on ratings. I keep hearing people say ratings. Don't matter I've never heard anyone from a network say that rating so matter but I keep hearing people in the wrestling business. She kind of dismissing the significance advocates of ratings. And I guess that's easy to say if you're not running television network and you're not responsible to your shareholders of that at work in in terms of keeping a profitable in doing the best you can with that property but you know whatever at the end of the day you know people are living and dying whether they admitted you do not or reacting to the released. We weak ratings on their their indicator they tell you where your businesses go. You can look at your television television ratings. And it'll tell you pretty much what you pay per view numbers are GonNa look like you can look at your television ratings and it can tell you for the most part you can extrapolate you know what you're live. Event businesses is going to start to look like Television ratings mean. A lot more than people are admitting to themselves publicly. It's been a An interesting run here with the the new quote unquote Wednesday night war this past week another win for annex t a W W. takes the loss and even when Awa has lost in the past to annex t Sort of the AWA defenders. I would say well. They may have had more viewers but we want in the demo that matters. You know we're advertisers are looking men eighteen thirty four. Whatever the number is eighteen and forty-nine whatever we're winning those men and that's what what the network really cares about but this week in exte- even one in that category and so the key Kimmo that a w defenders and always sort of hung their hat on an xt even when they're you know you were Mr Ratings back in the day one wake cause for concern or too early to say before I answer that I want to address the AWA defenders? The you know share their knowledge of you know the advertising world networks. What's most important to a network and all that kind of Horse Shit? I got news for people. PULL UP A chair. Get A pan. You're going around. You're going to want to write like this down. You'RE GONNA WANNA keep this in your pocket so when you get into this type of conversation with your other wrestling friends e you'll be able to speak speak articulately in accurately and this is one of the reasons why you know eighty three weeks. Listeners are undoubtedly the most most sophisticated knowledgeable rustling fans out there and they become that way by listening to the show because we share the real information we we don't bullshit anybody. No Brag just fact. It's all right here but I've got news for people get get ready to write this down in three two one. The eighteen to forty nine year old demo has has always been the target. It's not like this is a new piece of business. It is an all of a sudden. Why have wrestling fans latched onto the fact that well? It doesn't matter what the ratings are. It's only really matters. You know what that key demo is. You don't know what you're talking about you know yes. Eighteen to forty nine is the target. It it most certainly. It's by the way it's brought S. target It is the target and it always has been the target. This isn't news but to answer your question specifically. I wouldn't panic if I was a w no one week. Even though is a pretty big gap. This time I'm I wouldn't sweat that I pay attention to it but let's keep in mind and correct me if I'm wrong here. Connor one hundred percent. Sure I'm right on this It wasn't an xt this week commercial free about that. Something tells me something tells me I. I read about it that this last week's episode was going to be commercial free. Now if I'm right and I could be wrong. I didn't watch the show not paying Nicholas attention but if I'm right in it was a commercial free episode going up against an episode with commercials in it. I would expect that an. Xt would do a better job of holding your audience. If they wouldn't have held their audience being commercial free I think in T- should be the ones that would be in a panic because that would be indicative could of a much much more significant issue. Now if that's if that's if NFC actually ran head to head without commercials And if that's the case is not this is an aberration. It's it doesn't really matter in the long run. It is upset as I've said before if the annex t excuse me an xt steve or aws numbers continue the trajectory that they're on It's just this'll be a war of attrition. This won't be a war. That's it's building things bigger like the Monday night worsted. This is just a war between you know eight E W in. WWe You know C.. Show Oh that's going to be determined by who can outlast the other until they start building an audience because based on what I've seen either of them are building an audience there new to wonder agree or another. They're both losing audience. The title matches were commercial. Free not the whole show okay. You've been so clever well-done that'll be interesting to see if that's something that continues. That'll I predicted it. Will I predict that. We'll see based on last week's numbers in the effect that it had on eighty W I think if I were if I were calling the shots I would be on the phone with. USA Network first thing doing Thursday morning and and convincing them to stick with that format and allow us to have our main of or title matches commercial free. Because that. That's how you end up stealing market share over a long period of time. Otherwise it's just a one off stunt in a good one but in a long range in the long run it will matter. What's going on in the ring right now big Bubba Rogers and your man? Mike Jones We also saw saw clips as a reminder we're in Charlotte North Carolina we saw a clip of ric flair. Calling Out Bret Hart for saying he was the best wrestler of all time and saying. Hey I want you to come to Charlotte say that so as we know Bret Hart is going to be here. We also saw entire interview a few minutes ago. Out here yourself included really Josh Jackson trying to lay the groundwork for stockade. This has gotta be you know. And I know there's lots of peaks and valleys in your tenure with Nitro Nitro but homestretch and here to the biggest pay per view you guys have ever done. You gotta be feeling extra confident I I was. I was very confident. It was really. It was a great time. It was just a really great time. The the tide had definitely turned and by this point. We were confident now in what we were doing and how we were doing it Not that everything we did was perfect. Clearly it wasn't we've we. We dropped a lot of bombs during this period of time too but for the most part we were really comfortable with the direction. Turner was thrilled with the way things were going. I had a tremendous amount of support from Ted so it was a very good time to be me back in December of ninety seven. This is fun here. We see Kevin Nash dressed up as sting and smacking the giant's hand with a bat. Of course Scott Hall stop in the hand doing whatever he can. Because Kevin Nash is going to be squaring off at stockade with the giant To See who is true giant and You know I I gotTa tell you as a kid. I was pretty excited about this as an adult. I realize had this match actually happened. It would not have been the best minds to giant Big lumbering guys like that. Well maybe a cool visual on paper the execution is Kevin always had better matches when he had somebody to sort of work with within work around him when he can really throw around Ramos. Cheerio or Shawn Michaels. You get that classic David and Goliath story not so much with the big show. No and you're absolutely right. You know you put two guys who were that big together. You know. Everything's slower you. You don't have the visual impact of seeing someone like you know. Paul White. His mass of size you know competing against you know even an average size professional channel wrestler. At that time you know somebody that has to forty to fifty a still that size discrepancy begins to tell a story. What before the Bell Rings? You know the premise. Thomas of your story is pretty well laid out for you but when you get to giants together you're right. You know what I gash. Whatever he is seven foot some over three hundred pounds at that point. It wasn't as big as Paul but God damn there weren't many people bigger than him either In the business so so it you you can expect a slower match. It's harder for these guys to bump in a very dramatic effective way like you can when you're smaller alert to thirty to forty and good at it. So you're right. It just ends up being a slower less interesting match. When you've got two guys together sunny auto by the way sunny? He just had open heart surgery on days today Saturday. He had it Monday morning by the way in Minneapolis and I got a text from him and he said he's doing well actually. He said I sent him attack saying. Hey how are Ya because it hurts like hell hoping for better days and Nettie reach out to be a couple of hours later. said he's actually feeling pretty good so hopefully he's going to be home soon. Man That's harsh you all have an open heart surgery turn terrible. Yeah he They went in. He said he's got a big zipper right down the middle of his chest and he went in and they had to Exactly did he had two thousand were severely blocked so I think they had to put stints in those valves earn in those valves and some other stuff pretty serious. Yeah I hate to see that he just just recently Popped over to Japan right some TV gimmick over there talking about old school wrestling. Yeah he was over there in fact he sent me a picture. What was it a week ago? And he's he's flying first class. On Japan Airlines takes a picture of the Sushi. They were surfing him in First Class. And you know I I said Sunny where the hell Arnie 'cause I knew he had the open heart surgery coming up. I expected he'd be home getting ready to go get his has chest cut open and now he's on a plane had noted Japan. He was working with Fuji TV And they were doing. They are doing a special on Akira Hokuto and her time in. WCW In fact Akira hokuto actually. And you'll get a kick out of this because I didn't know it until I did. Ah Interview with them because they interviewed metoo while they were here in Florida but a cure hokuto actually has in her possession the WCW world's championship. Oh my gosh that's awesome. She was the last person to hold it and subsequently still hasn't entered possession and I immediately thought of you know I started working for you. I'm thinking to myself as doing this interview and I was June interview with Fuji TV right that came to Tampa the Dow with me for a couple of hours. And we're doing in the middle of this interview. I'm thinking how do I get a message over to cure. Sure who could tell that. I know this guy would love to have their belt but I think she's got bigger plans for it. It's a pretty cool bill to I mean the main plate doesn't like anything you guys ever did so although not often seen on TV very interesting design the Santa Lease Collector's item to be sure. Oh for sure. Speaking of Japanese talent. CG NAGATA here. WHO's going to go on the have one hell of a career very early in his career given the what four to Disco Inferno Verno? And we've talked about this go a lot here on the show and now you and I both thought you know he was a utility player. Who could have pretty much done anything he made a character worked on a lot of people wouldn't have been able to but boy these days he's sure does love Cuban start up on social media on this podcast Kony does he does he does? He's and he before we talk about that. This is a really interesting match for disco because for for the most part discount played a comedic character right and got us he'd just by being such a cornball you wanted to smack him like Sonny Bono's doing here was pretty weak kicks. That's all. That was a nice good Spin Hook nicely done sunny. You've redeemed yourself But this is a match where you know Glenn or disco is Actually Pretty Progressive looks legitimate credible It's a different south for him. He looks good but he does like to steer the ship doesn't he. He's outspoken. I like like. He's got different gears as performer. He does he does. I don't listen to me I've been on Conan show. Ah with this go and I enjoy it. I love those guys pretty laid back. It's great you know. Every time I do one we do it on skype and I can I can see CONAN disco. Everybody's on camera and you know commands just banging that fucking Bong during his whole show. I just think it's great. I couldn't do it but I think it's great that he does. Let's talk about Bret Hart is get ready for his big debut. Breath has has said of his first visit to the. WB Office in Atlanta that. He bumped into Hogan Macho when Eric Bischoff who smiled confident. Let me as he said confidently really me as he said. If you think you're big star now you're going to be an even bigger star when I'm done with you remember running into Bre in the office office and having some sort of similar conversation or comment okay this is going to be challenging and I don't want our listeners to be disappointed right. 'cause his normally you know when certain things are brought up that don't ring true to me. I tend to be a little aggressive about it in the way I discuss it and I'm I I ran answer brought over in the UK. I don't know when it was last spring some time and you know it was. It was kind of awkward. Because we're all sitting together. Rick was ric flair. was there undertaker kickoff. There myself a bunch of a bunch of people were there not to just namedrop for the name trump but a lot of the generation of wrestlers were there including myself and I I wait how the bread hard and I had been in the same room since a lot of conversations. Sion's and books and shoot interviews and you know mouth off. A lot of water had gone under the bridge. By the time we were sitting together at this table I waited for Brett to get up and use the restroom or go get a beer. Whatever he was doing and I follow them? PULL THEM UP. Pull them aside and I know we. We spoke briefly not long and I made clear to Brett that despite all the crap that went down and things that have been set back and forth. I'm done with it you know I don't WanNa live you. Don't carry that baggage around and everytime Bret Hart's name comes up. Be Digging for something you know to respond or a away to respond. So I'm GonNa tell tell you when these kinds of situations come up throughout the show. I'm going to disagree. I'm GonNa tell you what I remember and don't remember and whether I think something actually happened or not but I'm not going to color it any further than that. I'm just going to tell you that if the answer is no. I don't remember it happening. I'm in. I'm going to leave it at that. The conversation was so out of context with regard to everybody's nobody's personalities they're myself Hogan it. Who else was supposed to be? There was randy yet. Neither Randy or Hawk would say something like that. That's not in their nature in everybody knew that Brett coming in was a little little bit of it was a little stressful for everybody and everybody knew what had gone through it. WWe and the screw drab abso. Nobody's GONNA nobody's going to make a statement like that. It's just completely out of context and one of the reasons why I'm confident it. It never happened. We just saw disco inferno. Beat Yuji Nagata. Clean meltzer would say that. There's going to be a little bit of controversy about that in Japan because they're gearing up for their big Tokyo Dome Show just a couple of weeks. How about this look for fifth in? What do you think of this mad? Max Looking Jackie here. Oh you know I love Finley's work I really. I respect the hell out of him as a human being as a man But this look just wasn't getting it for me yes why Conrad. Because it's the little too similar I mean it looks a little bit like something. The Steiner's would warrant the rang. It looks a little bit like a version of road. Warriors kind of adaptation It didn't feel original. I can see you wearing that to the bar I did. I'm on a Harley. Charlie you pull up in that Shit Komo and I used to have this viking helmet with cow horns coming out of the long look at hair down the middle of my back so I put it on and I look like some kind of a Mongolian warrior. That will look really good with that jacket and he would pop out your front teeth hole. Yep absolutely so so we see Dean Malingco coming to the ring here Listeners to the Tony Shivani podcast or well aware of the incredible heat between Malingco Antonio Vanni what is up with that. Yeah tell me more I just got serious eat man like they had a fucking knock down drag out in catering a few weeks ago here you serious. Yeah now. There's gotta be a punchline to this can't be real courses Just made it out for the show. Announce a gag on the show. Oh there's is no chance Dean Malingco well first of all I think one of the nicest guys ever any of Tony. Shivani is getting in a fight with anybody other than lowest. Just not believable. No yeah well. That's what struck me because I was reading about it. I meant to ask you about it. I I'm I'm reading about this heat that Toni Adena Malingco having wait a minute. Something's not right here. In Malingco is one of the most easygoing people. He's funny he's got a great sense of humor his his ego. Oh self image is all very healthy and well intact in. Tony is the same way. Tony's too nice of a guy to get in a fight with anybody and by the the way. I don't think Tony Fights with Lois. I think Lois may be shit out of Tony. Benn in that case he's more of a victim then than a combatant. An order suggests that Lois Tonio fighting. That would suggest at least that Tony would try to defend themselves even verbally intellectually physically. And I can assure you and you probably could assure me that none of that would actually ever happen. No it's Lois in a squash match every time. Oh my God. It's a thirty second squash. Yeah Well Anyway I. If you can hear our voice right now youtube should take the twitter and tweet at Tony Shirvani Shibani And let them know that you disagree with his stance on Dean Malingco and this is definitely very real. Heat with the ICEMAN and the voice of our Childhood Hood. And we gotta get that chatter going. Because I've had at least half a dozen guys in the business including mutual friends of ours. Ask what's going on with with you with with you and they like Tony Sherwani I I just asked off. I mean I mean you know I've seen it all. I've been a part of things like this. I should've sensed it but when I member Must Hana fucked up possibly happen they got a knock down drag out over. Who's getting the last? Ask Gluten Free Waffle I guess. ADP doesn't eat gluten free now. He he does now. He's talked a bunch of LB's thanks to DP Yoga Oh good for him. He's tracking it on his APP and the whole deal. Big Deal said Sia that recently DP announcement the he and Brenda were no moss shoutout to DDP. Now that's a tough situation ago through a split like that and We need to support our friend. I'm anals page right now. Absolutely and you know I read it on line and I also read some Adidi piece quotes and comments on it and evidently I don't I I don't know about Brenda one time so I don't under- well but Split amicable amicably. No no he nobody was screwing screwing around on anybody. No none of that. It just you know was to people that grew apart and he said that They were better off friends than they were husband and wife. I'm from sometimes it happens. You know it's not unusual but it's it is unusual that people can spend some time together as husband wife and split up and remained friends. And I'm sure that'll be the case with ADP and Brenda. Yeah it's weird you know because that's just how DP roles like Gosh probably five six years ago when Wrestlemania was in New Orleans the first I knew Dallas. I was a few tables away looking somewhat man. I could be wrong. That looks like he sitting with his girlfriend slash fiancee. Don't say Brenda and Kimberly at the same table and sure enough it is they're all friends and he's maintained a friendship of nearly all this year so it's not surprising losing to me that if if something happens with with him and Brendan they have to go their separate ways. He's GonNa maintain that same level of dignity and respect and all of that with her as well. Yup We is man. What a what a match here you know we just saw and it's easy to sort of dismissed inferno but really a great match ask this go and using the gala and now fit Finlay and Dean Malingco? It's one of those deals where you don't realize how good you had it until years later because these are two of the all time greats here when you just look at the technical entering prowess it's short list that you would wanna make and fifth inland decor aim liquor on that list. Welcome so believable so believable. Their timing is great they both know how to sell. Look at this treaty much flawless match. So far there was one little kerfluffle in the beginning. I think when it looked to me like fit was making a move for a piledriver to got a little sloppy but other than that matches been for the most part flawless talk to me about formatting of the shows you know we we hear that you know these days even during the show. Vince could be reformatting. Changes is changing his mind. And I know eventually you would be accused of that with Nitro as well. ooh There's the Eddie Guerrero looking only he can look creeping down the aisle here though you would have had sort of your rough cut the first version of the show on what day. Obviously we're on a Monday nitro Wednesday. Thursday Friday Saturday had laid out Friday Friday and then we would have fine tuned. It on Monday. Starting probably around eleven o'clock Monday morning and I I don't again I I want to be careful about what I say with regard. WWE and special events I don't know that that's true. That vince rewrite the show during the show because he's changing his mind mind necessarily. I guess that could be true. I don't know I've never seen that But I have seen shows have to be reformatted Because of timing issues because of injuries because of poor communication. There's a lot of reasons. Why right in the middle all of a show you have to reform at it and I I don't really think it comes down to just a whimsical kind of subjective opinion? In about what you're seeing I think more more often than not if that almost exclusively. It's a matter of having to adjust to something that happened that you weren't expecting talks about you. Know the the formatting of the show here in nineteen ninety seven you know this is you know email exists. But it's not like everybody who's on the writing staff is comfortable with email. Probably by nineteen ninety-seven. How're you formatting? The shows or is this all handwritten in in a big board room like a worm of sorts. And then somebody types it up for you guys for everyone to review on Monday and you fine tune it you red lined on it with pins or what what does that process look like because the technology gap between ninety seven and two thousand nineteen. That's pretty tremendous. Yeah it really was. And it's amazing to think about the differences between then and now as it happens You know for the most part we would start leading on Wednesday generally to start talking about the next week show so we we had a big conference room and at. WCW WE'RE THE CNN center. Especially being a compromise. Tim That would hold probably twenty five thirty people if we needed it But we you know everybody that was associated with booking would would all meet and we'd spend the day you know bouncing ideas around or you know dealing with a story that we already had figuring out how we were going to keep that story going with an x chapter with the next beat was going to be and then in some cases we were starting new stories. We're really got new matches underneath that so that process would start on a Wednesday and it would go Wednesday Thursday Friday by the end of the day Friday and usually it was a net yoder who was a producer. would be in those meetings or might be Tony or anybody anybody else really. That was keeping notes and those notes at the end of the day would be type written and distributed to everybody so that we had it and we'd be looking at it and by the time we got to TV Television Craig Leathers Keith. Mitchell Democrat who agree all would have been involved in timing the show And laying that show out on paper and then we'd see that type of format Monday when we got the TV and we you start making judgments from there as needed we Got The next big segment here. And what a barn burner this is going to be Ramos Stereo in who've into Carreira as tag team. which is you know? These guys were longtime rivals in Mexico and of course she saw series of matches with them in DC. W would of course when right I debuted with WCW. Which we've documented on episode but across the Ring Psychosis and La Parka? With the exception of Koniak. Because I've always sort of put him in a different category. These are the the four most sort of prolific Olympic history. All right I would tend to agree with that. You know I'm not. I'm not an expert. I don't pretend I am one but when I think the last twenty years and the names that really stand out the most of the guys at add some of the greatest matches and stories and angels. You're looking for them right right there now. I don't mean in terms of all Mexican wrestling history. I just waited from. WCW standpoint these were the ones that were the most featured most prominent you know best absolutely. Yeah absolutely you know the La Parka character in particular I think captured everybody's imagination the whole Chairman of the Board Gordon him dancing and he's see the crowds job. He just hat. He showed a lot of personality. He really did You you know. He was comedic yet believable because he was so athletic. You know I mean that look at that I mean that was not an easy move to make it. Can Somebody in the head as you're running running by them without killing them But he was able to do that pretty effectively so he's he was hot. It was comedic but yet you know dangerous and aggressive which is a great a combination. Nice contrast and he's taller than most so you know. He has a little more weight to him. He he looks like it has the size to be more of of a bully in this Divisions so to speak but you got two of the greatest proflowers ever who've into greer in Ramos Stereo. It's funny to think you know that I really do think you can make an argument that all time certainly ray is on the shortlist supposed to important wrestlers ever and I who probably on the all time most underrated the dude. And I don't I don't remember ever seeing him have a bad match and I'm not saying that didn't exist. I'm just saga felt like whenever he stepped through the ropes. You were about to be entertained. NO DOUBT AND HE I. I love that. You said that you know. He was underrated underrated or is underrated. Because I agree now. Part of that I think is because he had chemical issues and drug issues and alcohol issues intended to get in his own way and fuck up a lot of times not in the re done in the ring. I'm just talking about in general and he was one of those guys that I can tell you you might just. My perspective loved him as a performer. I even like being around him. You know but can trust and I don't don't mean trust in the sense of you know would leave my wallet. You know around him. I mean trust him in terms of not fucking up outside of the ring. How much willing to invest in a guy that you know is capable of going out embarrassing himself in the company that he works for so you you want to use them but you don't WanNa get too committed either because it's just you know the feeling? Was it just a matter of time before he does something ridiculous for what it's worth meltzer would say was describing this match a match that blew everything on either show so he saying that between raw and Nitro This is the best match and considering the performers. That's really hard to believe. No you would. I guess you would expect that now. Right yeah and here comes the hot tag Ramos Stereo and the crowd. I mean you got already made mysterious. You know a A major star by this point where people all-new Hi this this flos this is going to do some really special stuff and we didn't do that farm as much as he did it for himself you know. We obviously gave him a lot of television time. But that was television. Time to the earned by you know going out there constantly entertaining the audience and having matches the people's jaws jaws drop and being able to work with such a wide variety of people still have great mats if we didn't give that to him we didn't make Ramos Yariel. Ramos mysterious made Ramos Syria. Well and you made everybody come see this show sell out here. Nine thousand three hundred twenty fans eight thousand four one hundred ninety nine of them were paying gates over one hundred forty six thousand. I mean everything. In this era as a sell-out though this is not not the exception this is almost the rule is bringing nitro to your town. Is your tickets because them shits or selling out. It was a party you know and it was unpredictable predictable. You never know what to expect. That was and that was by design. That was one of the first things that was on my list of things that we could do differently in. WCW On nitro then the WWF. That time was doing in a again. I may have talked about this before you know the unpredictability or or creating in that sense and communicating to the audience consistently week week after week. That you have to tune in tonight show because you never know what's going to happen which is one of the reasons we didn't spend a Lotta time promoting next week matches. It's not because we didn't necessarily know at next week's matches we're going to be or we were incapable of planning that far ahead. It's because we were reacting to research we have focus groups all over the country and one of the most consistent things I heard in each one of those focus groups in terms of what people liked about professional wrestling not just WCW but WWF at the time now WCW or any other than that. They were familiar with an across the board. There's in probably twenty five different focus groups that we did around the United States in different markets. The one common comment everybody made. was I like wrestling. Because it's unpredictable and we seized and we wanted that show to be unpredictable. We communicated to people that it was unpredictable. Electable one of the things that we wanted to communicate to people was that night shows really a party and we did that with the NITRO party. Promotions that we did. That's how we communicate and created that sense of Man Nitro zone so that we gotta get together and watch in. We're probably more people watching Nitro in dorms during this college dorm. I'm Joyce during this period of time than any other wrestling show will. That's obvious because of the ratings but it became a thing you know like Monday night. Football is a thing you know. Nitro tro became a thing but it was because it was entertaining it was unpredictable and we provided the kind of action that we're seeing here really next level stuff look at that. Oh my Gosh I. I've just watching what's going on here in the ring is just phenomenal. And you would think I can you know. I can't tell how long this match was. I'm guessing was about twelve or fourteen minutes. These guys were they look stronger at the end of it and they did in the beginning it were really really finish this up strong my stereo. You know springboard to the top grope in the from the middle of the ring and then Having balanced their jumps down onto the ground Hurricane Rana's will park a further further down the aisle. Meanwhile off the top rope comes. The Phoenix splash the four. Fifty from WHO've untutored. And that's going to be your Finnish see a recap here. This looks like a highlight reel from a career and it's just from this match. Man was so good so so good in a lot of stuff is sort of you know par for course now on a Wednesday night or a Friday night or Monday night but it was not nineteen ninety eighty seven. This was really truly special And I I don't know you know I don't watch much as much as you do but I. I don't know that there's anybody somebody out there. Today that are consistently is good as the four guys that we just saw the guys that are out there that are great not taking anything away from anybody but the chemistry tree the athleticism the the Christmas of what we saw in the rim between those guys. I don't know if it's out there. Please point in that direction because I like to watch more of it up next. We've got our own. Anderson is going to come out to a huge ovation here as well. He should and He's going to break down a little bit at the reaction from this unbelievable Charlotte crown. He says something like the wrestling ring is the only place in his adult life. He's felt like he's been home in the Charlotte. Observer had run a big story in the paper for that day with our own Anderson talking about his career ending injury so pretty special little moment that she allowed arm to have here and programmed for the local crowd here in Charlotte and a major waste. Everybody throwing up the four aren't such a class guy houses. podcast ever fun doing it. We are yes sir. My Hella money now having fun doing it and he's getting more comfortable abol listening often. I I predict that is going to be. It may not happen in the next couple of months but I predict that that podcast with arn is going to be one of your more popular podcasts. It may take six months or so to get there. But you're going to get there. Well you had a great idea you said you know. Aren't Anderson talking to our computers one thing but aren't Anderson in front of you. You know drinking a couple of duels is going to make you laugh. Oh Oh absolutely absolutely and hopefully you'll find a way to do that or at least once in a while because if you get them in that environment in I mean the stories. He has his recall The situations he's been in and just he such a great storyteller he really is. He's funny as hell. You get them on a wall and he's one of the funniest people you've ever been around the wicket and timing. He has means that he's He's hold court and any sort of group session like that out maybe backstage show or whatever you know he's a guy who It doesn't need business cards. You know you know in the wrestling business. You're you're talking to aren't Anderson and I think that's that's important you know when you can establish yourself a become a known entity like that that just your mere presence and people now are this guy's this guy's legit it is you know I guess and I just started thinking about this as we're talking about Arnold. I'm looking at them here on camera during this interview and I can't hear the interview unfortunately but one of the things about arn is he's been been so consistent in his character you know he he may have been A. He'll may have been a baby face but there really wasn't a lot lot of difference between the two aren't had so much credibility and believability in his promos. Were so good then. It really didn't matter sadder you know he could. He could play any role but the he'll version of over Narnia Anderson of the baby face version of our Nansen was something that you had to look for very closely to see the difference because the his character is delivery was so consistent throughout his entire career and I I think that's one of the reasons why people look up to you know today as much as they do bring out his friend. Rick Flair of course saying occur handing. Your Daddy should've talked to you a long time ago. Better than the do what you did. Of course talking about attacking Rick Flair four games and we're setting up ric flair incur for stark aid. But right now flares out and you guys are going to present a check for fifteen grand for The police officers there in Charlotte. And Doug Dillon. You didn't reference Doug but one this scene I opened up and you saw the two police officers. There's there in the ring with gene also standing two genes. Right was Doug dillinger. Diligent was our head of security Real close to dusty Rhodes I think. That's that's how doug ended up in. WCW mistaken But Doug was also a local police officer in Charlotte. So that's how this connection all came together. Did you know Doug Dillinger was a cop I did. Yeah Super Nice. Guy's got a hand the CY I mean you you shake hands with Doug dillinger in slamming your hand in a car door. He's got some of the biggest hands I've ever met. And he was a big Guy Doug Doug was a big guy himself but he I mean really the size of his physically like Samsonite suitcase. I can't imagine when he was in his prime. What it would be like the tag egg with Doug Dillinger by tag? I don't mean in a tag team match but I mean the street sure. Cool little moment here. I know it probably brings I don't know I guess I'm curious would you have done this on. TV now. Twenty Yep Yep Yep because it's emotion it's real emotion. It's a good alignment. It's a good 'cause it's positive in puts off four or all a six of the people that are in this shot in a very positive light but it really. It did a lot for rick can help rick in the market establish him as a baby face even more than already was and it was good for aren't so yeah do this. And now we're building and now that we've taken care of business. I I can hear it but I can see the crowd reacting and I can see rick's body language so we went from that very credible positive moment and now we're shifting into entertainment. I love that. He slowly slept the jacket off and says well gene and they ended up be conservative for a minute. Slide the jacket off and you're coming to the Wu and now's given Charlotte what they wanted. I say well you could see the people behind rick. If you're watching if you're listening to this podcast and you get a chance to watch it at home go to wwe network go to the in ring A selection on the menu go to WCW Nitro and look for twelve fifteen ninety seven. But if you're if you're watching this you could see when reckless slowly reaching for that jacket kind of took off slowly. The people behind him before ricky even said a word they knew something good was coming and they they started reacting before rick started talking was awesome. I love the the big line there. Charlotte the NWEA Cam beat me up in Charlotte. Jack just you know. Hey you may have had me in other places and other towns but not my town you can do it here and the crowd just bites hook line and sinker goodstuff. There's the memorial. It's for a fallen police officers and their families and fifteen thousand dollar check to Go towards that so pretty cool cool deal and a nice piece of TV. 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Nothing really that's roll tide right there. Let's stop for me. I'm good with it all the time. I'm here this is by the way another Eric Bischoff curation that I wanNA give golf. Clap to the fucking light showgirls. unsung heroes a nitro in. And I appreciate you say that but I always believe in giving them props for props or do. That really wasn't my idea. That was Kimberley's idea. I was looking for something for some way to entertain the crowd during the commercial breaks. And you may or may not remember I had a DJ. Yeah that I was using for a while in night show to to do the same thing and then it was kimberly. The kid I was looking for ways to expand upon that and try to make it again. Give Nitro it's not just for the television audience but for the live audience which is something that's critically important especially today's three hour raw format or even in you know a two hour format it's a long time for the audience to be sitting there through commercial breaks when you're doing live television so I was looking for ways to kind of create. Some entertainment was is kimberly. That actually came up with the idea of the natural girls. I was fully supportive of it. But it wasn't my ideal you try to few different deejays at different times. Did you not like Ah Ricky Rachman and rookie Rachman was a one off People marrying out remember Ricky Rachman but he was a very popular. Dj in Los Angeles market. It just someone that I had become friendly with. I don't remember how I met him but at the time he was a pretty cool dude. You eat a little controversial. I think he married a porn star. Her can't remember which one Not that that matters but We use Ricky Rachman but that was more once in a while kind of went off whenever where he was available and then we used the most successful. Dj that we use was a guy by DJ ran. Who is really really fun? Fun To work with in a really really positive brought a lot to the show. Oh Lord I just had to look at Ricky Rachman and it's not just any porn star. It's Deneen Linda Boulder. She was the girl on the cover of the blink. One eighty two album. She has now I remember. She had a sex tape. Leak with Vincent Neil once upon a time but she was famous for being like vivid cover girls in the nineties but she was like lesbian only initially hooked up with that made the bikes out. Jesse James and James and then he left her for Sandra Bullock. Think in was a whole. Yeah so we're she has a weird history. She's been on a COUPLA apple documentaries and I think she's challenges the different towns now. She's just covered head to toe in tattoos and unrecognizable fewer fan. I in the nineties. I was real todd on. I knew you'd know the answer to that. That's why out the Google it. Because she didn't. I mean that that connection. I don't know much of ricky right one so I was just Gogel Ricky Rodman porn-star and I'm like well now me no way. No Way me gene. Janine popped up from okay well. I'm very familiar here. He's lucky man and that might have been at the peak of her career. I think I met her once. I think he brought her to his show. Fact I know we did and that was when she was first starting to Kinda TAT herself up. And I don't mean to. I'm going to say when I was about to say no matter how I say it. It's GONNA come off wrong. I'M GONNA keep it to myself. I'm not going to say it. I'M NOT GONNA provide an open forum in the ammunition for people to bust my balls for the next seven days on twitter because I said something I shouldn't say so fuck you. I'm not GONNA do it. We should tell everybody One the fun. Little anecdotes from your visit for no-holds-barred Christmas weekend where one night you Mrs. Mrs B retired bet. Bet after dinner and party going so you start creeping downstairs about five. Am and we pass each other in the hall and you're like you get up the surly and my response was hell. No I'm going to bed and by the way. It was four thirty in the morning. Remember because I was saying okay. I've got to be really quiet. I got up. I looked at my phone and was like four thirty four twenty eight when I was getting out of bed. It got to be really quite sure everybody was up late. The probably all sleep. I don't want the dogs to bark on almost step on anything that breaks some religious. Be As quiet as I can be so I got up. I don't WanNa wake up Mrs Bees. I got dressed. Quiet is I possibly could that. I opened up the door ever so gently so that it didn't make any noise and I'm creeping down the hall fantast Ninja rate and. I'm making my way downstairs and I see Conrad walking through. He's still got his jeans on. Hey Dude Hey dude what do you do I ah no I said that. I said I didn't know you got up this earthy. Don't go into bed. Wow Long live. I couldn't do it now. We Burning the midnight oil and then I got up. Here's what's funny I get up I go down stairs you know you've got a really nice DB down there next year man cave really cool little Bar Hall from the Elevator. That if you keep going down that hall takes you out after graduating. See the Rolls Royce. And and as I'm as I'm quietly sitting sitting in the television room and I turned the TV on. But I don't want to turn it on too loud and I'm deficit. I'm I'm I'm I'm real hard of hearing so I've got to turn the TV up with. No I don't Wanna I do that and I look over and there's like long I thought it was a vibrator at first. I thought it was like a Dildo in sitting around the table. And I'm thinking what in the world guys doing. Let's say what kind of presence the give each other. This is crazy okay. So I went over. I looked at it and it was a tube of venison sausage. So there you go. Michael Dawkins brought a ton Alan Venison with him. And I think you Mrs Beaming live with a cooler full. We did and I wanted to shout out to Michael Doctrines number one great attorney. They need to be a trademark attorney. He's your guy number one number two the the venison that he gave Mrs we got into it right away when we got home. It is fantastic. What a treat file away? We're in for a treat now onscreen. We've got Scott Hall. Who cut a great promo the GO-TO commercial? They come back and Chris. Jericho's top of the ramp makes his way down. This is before Jericho is the heel Jericho. But what a great match here a man. He just sold that show slam. Went crazy and of course he's mocking the big show now. I always loved Scott Hall Chris. Jericho masters felt like Scott. Scott gave Jericho a lot at a time when he really didn't have to. He did but that's because he you know he didn't obviously have a crystal ball. Didn't know what kind of a A talented Chris would go on to become But at the same time he respected the the talented the out of this point enough that he wanted to work extra hard to make Chris look extra. Because that's one of the you know people can say what they want about Scott Hall but if you had the goods meaning if you could go out there and work and you were going to put in the time and you're going to do what you you need to do. He was going to go the extra mile trying to make you look as good as you possibly could. And he's doing that right here in this Matt Scott Hall. Great talent everybody recognize Zim Dynasty Razor. Ramon and W O Scott Hall different personas throughout his career But what what he was at the top of his game there was nobody better. Nobody look at this character. I mean he is so good and I wanna I say this you know it's the holiday season it's time time of year you know. We're you sir feeling good and you want to bring out the best. I guess in each each other yourself. I'll speak for myself at least Scott Hall today I have. I have as much show more respect for Scott all today that I almost anybody else I've worked with Not because not because the factory was such a great worker during the peak of his career that because of all things that he's accomplished knepper any other reason than what he's overcome and not going to get into it here. This is the time or the place. But for decades and decades and decades Scott Hall had demons many of us wouldn't have been able to handle probably most of us wouldn't be able to handle and he's been able to overcome them. It's not one hundred percent. Perfect in he he. He stumbles every once in a while or stubs his toe. But he's genuinely one of the people that I enjoy being around respect the most. He's he's a good person. How man I love these the NITRO party videotapes? Whose idea was this? This is great though. That was my idea man I I i. We'll take credit for the things I should take credit for and this this this was an idea that in it started out. This is the funny part of it. It started out as a gimmick great we would go and we. You know we'd find people that make it look like they were having a party. Three and we'd we'd film it but we produce it from beginning to middle to end and then we would put it up because we'd make it look like it was something that somebody hits xanten right. That was the idea we were. We are creating the illusion that there were nitro parties happening all over the country and then I started Suggesting the people as part of making it feel real. Hey in your throat on Nitro party sending your videotape. Well about four weeks later. We started getting flooded founded with people producing their own nitro parties videotape in setting in. And then we started airing those. It was awesome and the most most interesting one I ever got. Conrad was a video of a NITRO party from Brown University in. It was a bunch of postgraduate. You would students who were working under. PhD's in biology or some kind of advanced medicine and yet the doctors and Brown university post graduate students were all sitting around. Having a NITRO party. Ready was awesome. That's that's elevating your audience. That's building an elevated audience. Right there I love the old. The preceding announcement has been paid for by the new world order. And how about this Larry's out bobby. Heenan then Goddamn Bobby Heenan. Here's the best missing missing a lot. Mrs Sense of Humor Mrs Talon Mrs believability and I really Miss I miss his storytelling at the bar. After the shop. Oh look good. Yeah Mongo is supposed to wrestle here. You'RE GONNA love. Maybe you won't Stephen. Michael was supposed to wrestle. Ming thankfully that never happened. This comes from the Observer I love. I Love Steve. As a as a person in real life has gotta belly up to the bar and have some drinks and bullshit and is A funny philosophy about life and well L.. Pretty much everything but you gotta assume like one of the specific torture devices that we can use news would be just force. People SORTA clockwork orange style. The watch mum Michael matches wow so cold waterboarding or Mongo matches just you know take your pick by the fuck either way. You're tapping out. Give us the information the brutal Conrad brutal come on funny. It's mean oh you mean it's Christmastime coffee on Eddie Guerrero tell mance main. I didn't throw Coffee Eddie. Guerrero see that's kind of nonsense. It's a kind of bullshit narrative that continues to exist because comments like that. I didn't throw coffee at Eddie Guerrero I threw threw coffee on the ground while I was in a heated argument with Eddie grow splashed on them. There's a massive difference a massive difference in between throwing a cup of coffee at somebody which could be considered in most courts as assault or just getting angry and frustrated Throwing a cup of coffee on the ground and it splattering on somebody. Those are two different things. Let's be clear I feel better. What happened here? Conrad was I was in the middle of a rant so Goldberg laid out Mongo Congo. And now Goldberg's coming to the ring instead the why. Why did he lay out Manga? What was the reason for that well? They're they're battling over. They got football football. beefy see Oh yeah. He's a bear. He's a Falcon God. Damnit that'll do it. Did you see Goldberg on the latest. A broken skull session on the network. Steve Austin's that none of chop it up. I did not. I'm I'm going to see it probably this weekend. I like like to see it and I want to hear Steve's new shows since he's been on wwe. I haven't haven't been able to hear. How is it Watch the undertaker one if you watch the Goldberg when you make an injured but watch the undertaker. When it's real good I made injured? Yeah yeah why would I get injured injured while I was nervous for awesome. When I heard it'd be in the same room with Goldberg Goldberg touches? A concussion to see there there you go again kind of the grant. Somebody asked me the other day I did. The the after eighty three weeks show with Christina Olson on Youtube and she says so since you we were at the no-holds-barred Christmas party Conrad Thompson. Let me ask you a couple of Christmas light questions. Christmas themed questions and he said of all the people at the party. Pretty who would most likely be considered the grinch you said man I I said look everybody. That party was super chill. We were all having and fun. It was really laid back is really fun. So it's hard for me to say but I think deep down inside Conrad Thompson. Tension could be more grinch inch like anybody else in that party not in real life just on the show burying people here over the Christmas holidays. You're burying Bill Goldberg. But you're burying Steve McMichael you just Berry in people and I don't get that for entertainment purposes on the show by the way I need Kim relate to do that Arsenio Hall. We'll move a little more a little more a little more often. She did a real good job with that. Let's see someone of the Arsenio Hall which was pretty good. This is like this is the best show ever well from a growth perspective active this ever. You might be right on that now. What's funny is you know we say some silly outrageous rages things here on the show? Sometimes we're just trying to tiny. That's not everything this in real life seems great. I'm sure I'm sure Goldberg is too. But it's a gimmick the shit on Brutus. The Barber Shop Goldberg Goldberg. Not He's not Thank you a fun thing. You guys used to Konate will come out. You would do like the nineteen sixties version of the Batman Villain Angle with the camera just tilted to the side a little bit. I loved it. I just wish occasionally you know cody and would have done like the fake punch at the screen and you would have done pow Bam. Am God I wish they had that idea back. Then that would have been fun Conan for whatever reason was just born in cool and you know even if there were certain members of the end of Yo. That weren't cool as it's been nicknamed in the dirt cheats the b-team interview when Conan was with them. He sort of lit them his credibility and they became a little less line. A little more cool to to agree. Not Unlike Sean Walton. Before Sean Sean just brought a quality an attitude a to a persona whatever it was he brought something that was so unique that it really added value. He didn't get diluted hm all and a Nash he he actually made them a little bit stronger because of his edge and I think Conan definitely Lee without question fell into the same category Conan. You know wasn't the best worker you know. All of the you know all of the things that most oh you know hardcore wrestling loyal loyalists that spend too much time on chatrooms already. They're cheats. They all judge people by their work. Rate and while Conan may not have had the highest work rate factor amongst the people that he worked with he probably In terms of charisma and character probably outranked. Most of them me just he really brought us a good worker. Who Salad dollar worker is believable? When he needed to be wanted to be but the character that he brought to the ring and the credibility more than anything made up for it? You know now feels like just time. Zany remind everybody that you all know the risks of driving drunk you get in a crash ask people could get hurt or killed. Let's take a moment to look at some surprising Pistons almost twenty nine people in the US dot every day alcohol impaired vehicle crashes. That's one person every fifteen minutes. Even though drunk driving fatalities have fallen by a third in the last three decades drunk driving crashes still claimed more than ten thousand lives each year. Many people are aware that driving while Hawk and be just as dangerous in two thousand fifteen forty two percent of drivers killed in crashes tested positive for drugs rugs not so harmless after all. Is it and get this. Between seven and twenty fifteen marijuana use among drivers killed in crashes doubled the truth theus driving while high is deadly. So stop kidding yourself if you are impaired from drugs or alcohol. Don't get behind the wheel if you feel different. You Drive Different Dr Hock Doc entity. You are draft sober or get pulled over and In the ring here. We see the Steiner brothers. Got Rick Steiner in there right now with Scott Norton Jordan. ooh That was bad. ooh Rick Steiner Lands on his head after a botched lost power slam effort from Scott Norton but he's right back up and they're back in the thick of things. These recipes yeah and then he got his Bell Rung. They're just a little bit when he met. Something started doing a few years ago. That now think referees all across the World World of adopted is when somebody takes a spill like that. The referee will go over and sort of put his hand in the in the performance and so the performer. Who just maybe accidentally dropped their hair can just squeeze his hand back? Let them know. Hey I'm okay and if there's no squeeze. The referee knows. Hey we may have a problem. But in this era with Mickey J here here by protocol didn't exist so nobody's checking on wreck -rageous go right back into another move. There's a beef. This one is isn't clicking between Norton. Yeah and Rick is loopy here. Rick needs to tag out. Let Scott do some stuff here. But he's yet I guess the story is you know they're going to cut the ring off and let the heels get the heat but we need to call an audible here. Scott needs third. Get in the ring. Rick is sluggish. Not himself not even that he's he is definitely hurting here. Yeah Hey there and I'll tell you what rich Steiner's gotta be physically one of the toughest people that I know when he's got like a cinderblock everybody in that ring does right now. Oh you look at Norton. You'll get Scott Steiner Rick Steiner and even Conan. These are four guys. That could definitely take a shot. I was going to ask you. You know these are four of the biggest bad asses. Maybe ever in the history of wrestling I mean you know. Obviously there's exceptions like Hukou. Here they are but I mean you WanNa be in a dark alley with any for these guys mark. Goodness no I mean Scott Steiner's Crazy Rixon Taya Talk Pretzel Cohen. Just know some Shit and Scott Norton pick you up and fucking break in half and dumped you out Scott Norton. It is twice as strong as he looks and he looks really strong. Yeah the the term barrel chested exists and then you may Scott Norton realize oh no. That's what it really is he's keg chested No doubt about it house Conan own an like in the middle of everything wrestling always for decades like right now. He works for a dozen companies. He's as a political animal in a smart. He's talented and he brings value now. I don't know why we would be surprised. He's not ready to. He's not ready to hang it up yet. Oh just saw. The replay of that attempted power slam. It was not not pretty here. We're GONNA get another look at it. Watch this Rick got to him too fast. Scott didn't have his balanced by the time we upon it had my goodness. Yeah now the timing was just off there and rick got to Scott before Scott was planted he was still getting his feet underneath them. When when Rickie I hate to say that we should mention since we've got Bret Hart segment coming up here before you know what I do? Want to Sort of recap what Brent had to say about this he says I made my WCW W. debut the next day it'll sold out nitro Charlotte North Carolina. I was a bit surprised that it didn't feel that much different than A. WBF Show. W W was loaded with hardware or hardworking Mexican boys. I've never been much of Alicia Libra Fan until I saw the dedication and effort. Those wrestlers put in every night in particular. I love the the amazing work of young Ramos junior amass lightweight Mexican who could spin through up and over the ropes of backflips and beautiful dobson roles in my opinion he he is the most talented Mexican wrestler there ever has been. I felt much respect for all the Mexican boys came to me. Shake my hand. Paul White. The giant of wrestling long at seven foot two and four hundred pounds lumbered up say hello and there were old timers like Roddy Piper and ric flair great young talent including powerhouse Booker T. and from the stampede d-category or territory Crispin Chris Jericho even Miss Elizabeth. was there now working as lex Luger Valet Carina and gave me a big warm smile and slap the back and I feel honored to shake recruits. Hand he'd been on a taped raw November seventeenth which aired on November twenty four th just as he walked out Laval Nitro. This was the first first and only time a wrestler appeared for both organizations on TV at the same time raw was taped on alternate weeks from the live. NITRO BISCHOFF would give out the results on raw matches before the haired food and rude walked out and delivered a well-spoken monologue about the rights and wrongs of professional wrestling and he said it was wrong. For Sean to claim he was the world champion when Vance Hansa cheated me out of the title. A lot of wrestlers were disgusted by what Vincent done in Montreal but recruit was one of the few who actually quit that every effort. Good over it. So we're going to get to The actual segment here in just a few minutes here on the show but Brentwood right of his segment now that first night in the WCW dressing room in Charlotte also met Steve Borden known sting the hardworking pioneer of WCW. He was a well-built born again. Christian with long dark hair. Who worked with a wide painted face Gimmick based on the movie The crow for his entrance he was lowered from the rafters? After on a steel cable he'd been famous for a Scorpion death. Lock long before I ever came up with my own variation of the sharpshooter and bright would say I was dazzled enough by that sold out night show for the first time. I felt that W W might actually work out for me. I had a great first interview and got a good pop when I said Nobody WanNa know better than me what. It's like to get screwed by referee. That comment sent me referee. Hogan's world title match with Sting Stark Aid Ninety seven in Washington DC of December. Twenty eighth. Personally I thought appearing as a referee would be lackluster debut. But what did I know whether I care. I wanted to comply to whatever they asked me to the best of my ability win lose draw and then pick up my check and come home safe. Nobody would accuse me of taking this business too seriously ever again. Did you ever have a conversation like that with breath because Brett for better worse has always had a reputation at least in his wwf Ryan as taking himself itself too seriously. I mean Scott Hall would even be famous for saying was the or four hundred thousand dollar world champion the concept being. He didn't care how much money you made. As long as he was champion and other folks would poke fun at Brat for his house sort of being shrine to himself. He's got all of his movie. Covers action figures and magazines and he's got a lot of his memorabilia from his career. Adorning the walls of his own house and some people default A little much. He takes himself too seriously. He indicate to you that he was going to change his approach here and then he realized he had been taking it too seriously. Pearsley or did you ever have such a conversation. Never had a compensation remotely like that. You know I I want to say I know it's so much easier to you. You know. Dig Up the things that he said about me in the past or others. and W W or things that I've said about him in the past that's all stuff that we can stir the you know the audience audience up with get people to react to all that but My at this point my relationship with Brett in the conversations that we had up until this point were really solid. I mean to me when I say solid. I mean grounded Brat that was probably just in terms of my conversations with him in my dealings with them and my impressions of him at that time was that he was one of the most grounded. You know normal people that I did business with you know when when when we did talk. We very rarely talked about wrestling. You know when we weren't in the arena or specifically on the phone talking about a match. That was coming up or somebody was laying out but when we did talk Breads a a big fan of history native American history In particular a lot of similar interests outside of wrestling so at this point in our relationship wasn't the conversations that I had with Brett. We're Batas normal any conversation I've ever had with anybody. There was there was a hit. I'm not going to you know sugarcoat could this Really you know Brett was probably more affected By what happened in Montreal all that I think a lot of people felt he should have been. It was a horrible thing. It was a bad thing. It was a completely oracle situation and all that but once it's over it's over you know you got to kind of move on and look for something positive to do next and bread had a hard time letting makeup he was carrying around with him and it was. It was pretty obvious in a lot of conversations that we had booker. T. tearing haired up right now with the Macho man and the flock exceeded front row by the way. This is nineteen ninety-seven Booker T.. It's still a part of Harlem Heat Booker t but you could tell even here man. This guy's got the look and work to be a big time star so much without such a great guy to work with he is I you know I know I catch myself saying this all the time that I need to be more careful about how I say things of all of the people that I really really enjoyed working with her many of them. Booker T. is in the top. Three on. That list is just number. One is such a pro and he's always looking looking for a positive way to to to to address a negative situation whether it's a match that he's that we're proposing to. We were proposing to them with the time mm-hmm or an interview or whatever. It was his approach to things was always really positive. And most of the time. You know a very contagious ages laugh populated most of the conversations that that you would have with him just a great guy in amazing talent really athletic guy selling is azoff writer for Randy savage. Well he knows you know what this means. He's got to know what I mean. Look that a fan trying to do a run in savage kicks the shit out of him and the police swarm. Hey today's the bad day to do this. Yes they got the entire police staff there and we just we just gave fifty grand. They're gonNA kick your ass. But what are you better off off with Randy. How about that spin kick you? See Booker T.. Checking in the corner of his eye man. That was a little excitement. They're all of a sudden wasn't it. Yeah Cool Randy Ready. Didn't miss a beat either. Not that'd be a lesson to Gazan girls if you want your if you're at alive wrestling show uh-huh `specially on TV and it's not you know entertaining and it's it's dragging a little bit just jumped the guardrail jump in the fucking ring you know. Listen to you listen to you. You don't Ladies Gentlemen Men Women Children of all all four corners of the globe. Do not listen to my co host. Here do not jump into the ring just to get attention or because you're board or because you've had too much to drink or you're trying to impress your friends at home. Do not do that because you will get your ass kicked and and then you get arrested not the best part you get your ass kicked then you go to jail but you know what might be cool if you did cool for the people watching that cool for the people that were a person that was dumb enough to do it. I'm just saying don't you trend on twitter. John she wanted to make the show. Listen to you fuck. You're trying to get people's let's take. I'm just kidding around. Do not do they will kick your ass you. We'll have some paperwork involved. It's not a good call. Macho man finished him off here a little help for Miss Elizabeth. who was either either booker? T. was out of SPE or out of place or Liz was. She came scurrying around to the other side. And those high heels to make sure she tugged on his leg and he didn't get to just jump chop off smooth but not enough to finish the macho man much picks up the win. Big Deal though to have a single with the macho man for a essentially a tag agressor. Here Booker T.. He's still so early and his ruin by the way we've got Are Chris Benoit mass coming up. He's GonNa be technikon. Friend of the show Scotty Riggs but I more natural girls. Oh nitro girls have fidora's that's pretty cool this. They're smooth criminal or a team. That is so cool. You know we need more of this. I don't think he twenty nineteen but I mean there's cheerleaders for every sports for this twenty one thousand nine hundred got so those fucking or the wrestling twitter people will come for you fuck them. They're just they're just looking for something to bitch about. There is nothing wrong I mean do you watch music videos watch the NBA. We watch the NFL. I mean do you watch the voice. I mean. Come on their dancing girls everywhere. Why is having girls dancing? Basing on a wrestling show considered to be inappropriate or on cool for any part of a wrestling. I don't get that. Let me try this Eric. Just honest I don't see what happens if you are at girls all four of you. Who are listening to get together? And let's do a flash mob tom in the middle of smackdown. And let's have you girls Tom. Jump in the ring right before they're about to get started. And then you just do a dancer. Thirteen just like what we've seen and you know we we freestyle several months ago here on the show that maybe there should be you know the smackdown gals or something like that. We'll damage we can still make it happen to be there for it happened. You can do it in his honor the slot in there on a live on TV on Friday. And well thank you backstage. Bruce we sent it C. Yeah right before they take you out in handcuffs. Oh by the way I believe. I buried the lead here here. We've got some phenomenal shirts over there. BISCHOFF DOT COM for one. I'm a big fan of our own. Fuck with the ball which we've talked about about as a word that describes Ron Simmons a lot. It's one of the cooler shirt that we've got. But then we have got a straight OUTTA Compton inspired shirt that says straight out catering. What if you're a fat guy like me? This is a great shirt and there's even one that has a new Japan inspired twists instead of the lion in the middle. It's a caricature of Eric Bischoff instead of King Sports New Japan pro wrestling. It's King of catering. Eric Bischoff eighty three weeks. We've also got a king. The ring inspired King of catering yes king of catering but the two that I know. You'RE GONNA love the most. Eric One is the the drawing of you and it says bish please just pretty good and then one looks like a wooden sign with a donkey on it and it bases Eric's donkey show where the big boys play. I gotTA give. That Ha is behind the scenes. I sit eric this graphic in and he immediately replied. Maya God. You got to check this out. Eric's donkey show where the big boys play. Second Right now Eric Bischoff Dot com while. We're watching checking my settings headings because I've just lost my audio in my headphones and I wanNA make sure that for whatever reason that doesn't affect the audio input put which is my voice so bear with me for just no big deal while you're on new TROUBLESHOOT WE'RE CHECKING OUT SCOTTY. Riggs trying to pull the hair out of crispin. It's been Wa you just change the setting. That sounds back to normal Mayan. Speaking of Hair Charles Robinson wearing it out here he looks like I don't know that also looks like a different person from Charleston. We now where are you at time. Could we have gotten a little taller. I'm at one hour. Thirty six CERNAN ten eleven snap. Mayor Snap Mayor Crispin At one thirty six seventeen one thirty six forty four or this is as close as we're going to get by the way I can make my son really smart here by by being able to predict what's going to happen next only because I'm running about two seconds. I I love the bench right now. Chris Benoit's I know he's going to take a shot to the midsection. Oh look he's doing it. It's almost it's like. You're you're interviewing for a job here the way you're predicting everything like you know you're going to be like a Dirty rider before you know. Here's what I think's going to happen but you know things can change. Let me cover my ass. What's cutty rigs do not? So you know what I'm not sure But I know I know he listens to our show and doesn't miss an episode of Of our Anderson show either. So he's a big podcast. I think he's breath. I think he's in Florida because occasionally help us pictures of the beach. This is where I'm still employed. I'M GONNA be in Ford until at least the middle of January and this is I think we're probably more wrestlers live in Florida than any other state in the United States. Well I guess they know why number one the weather's great number two. There's no state income tax. There's two major three major airports so I get while everybody lives here but can you think of another state. That is the home of more wrestlers than Florida. I know it's gotta be well a few reasons. One one the climate to state taxes and three a recently learned that you can be sued and they can't take your house I I mean Oj Simpson. They took everything that man owes but they weren't able to take house you you can. That's one thing that they can't take no matter what you do. Do you could go out in in. Commit one of the most heinous crimes against somebody and they could sue you for everything that you have. They won't get is your house. If you have one in Florida so there you go around and learn something new every day. Yep but the no state income best thing is a big thing into me. We don't have any standing Texan Wyoming. Either which is one of the reasons I was excited to move there. There's no state income tax Tennessee. No Stadium CA tax in Texas. There's no state income income tax in South Dakota. There's a couple of places where there are no state income tax but I think the combination mostly detection and the weather's probably what does it. I like the weather better in California but the taxes crazy though the weather in California Southern California weather is the best. I'M NOT GONNA lie. I Love Southern California when it comes to the weather. There's a lot of things I don't like about southern California But taxes are at the the top of the list. It is the most expensive state to do business. I I mean I think it's worse than New York it's horrible. It's horrible horrible. Doing Business in California. Can you believe that backload story Wilson. It's hard to imagine I know right you. Just how did that happen. What were the what were the conditions? What were the variables? What was it about billy? Kidman Dettori Wilson found so attractive. And I'm not knocking you know. Hey Bill is a super guy super guy good looking guy too. I guess by most people's standards but damn toy Wilson come on man that's excellent. That's special hot sauce. Kind of cool to see van Hammocks show up to a booking. Here see there you go get Christmas spirit out. The fucking window is gone on Chiffre. Now now who gonNa Bury next. Who can we make fun of that? There'll be somebody sure sure there will probably be me. Probably I mean it's just it's an Oldie but a goody buster balls and he wig out and we start screaming skit stuff. But I don't as much anymore I know it's not the same. I try so hard I try to control myself. You're making me a better person. Spite the fact that you the fact that you're being you're making me a better person in the process trial by fire. Maybe this is smokey smokey scary state. This is the best thing man that you talk about such a character change when you really think about the vibrant full of color blonde hair flat top surfers thing saying to this one. That could not be more different but I mean those two contracts. I don't know that we've really talked about that but you look at the The neons onstage thing to this black and whites thing and then you look at the red and yellow Hulk Hogan and look at W. O. Hulk Hogan Hollywood Hogan there there are some similarities there whereas just man. That's a one eighty I did it. This is the The big moment. Jj Ajay Dylan is going to address the situation. And bring out Brad. Hart and I think you'RE GONNA show up here as well. What's what's going through my mind right now? Do you know did you have you seen this. Because I haven't watched it in advance. I like to light liked to react spontaneously to what I see so I don't watch them in advance of doing them. You're doing some weird stuff here because you're gonNA come out and you're gonNA start talking about seven seven seven point five million dollars per year and weekends off on Ted's money you really pushing that like gene welcomes Bradtha nitro and breadth says Took a long time to get here but it's great to be here great to be in Ric flair country and the whole concept with the special referee for the match. What you were talking about earlier about you know kicks punches be allowed so this is a special a special guest referee for the Bisco Bischoff? I think most people in hindsight thing. Oh Brad was the special referee for the main event. Know about the Bisco Bischoff and Brightest Promo would acknowledge where his out saying it's great to be in Ric flair country and breadth. Says something like if you're looking for a referee three. Is that what you WANNA referee. I'd be honored. A referee dispatch. And you said something like you'll breath seven point five million year at Ted Turner's money you you may for life and Brad says to you. He looks pretty happy. And you say something like think do what you can or. I'm sorry he says do what you can win if you can. I don't mean for any help because nobody knows better than I did with Clark begins screwed over by referee. You're in your own Jack. And then you repeat rep seven point five billion a year weekends off route and Brent Walks Roy By the way I can't my heel character was looking for someone to give me an edge match against the VISCO and who other than to go after a referee. That knows what it's like to be screwed so I give him seven million dollars so I I get it. I understand the premise muscle. Are you hi online for two G. Do couple rails where he came out on a segment. No I was high in life fucking jumping around like here coked up here. No wasn't my thing never was in the mood in the segment. This shit ain't grants and these facials and it was a Christmas season we're coming. We're coming into the holidays we were outperforming the wwe by a mile we were setting the tone. We were changing the industry. We're breaking all kinds of records. Were selling out everything that we did. So of course I do look a little goofy ear I dismiss this miss well fuck. I don't remember that day but I'm looking at you. Yeah well fuck bouncy around like a twelve year old kid I think I really wanted to hit. Aj Jay Jay. I mean I still do. Jj He's gotTa face. You just WanNa Punch look at you. What are you doing? Brett comes out wearing a leather jacket. Just like me. It's so cool gimmick infringement now so but I I appreciate it brick out. Their pain is respected by wear a leather jacket. Just like my sure Yup Yup a Happy down like a twelve year old kid. Oh my God we gotta gotTa come up with an Eric Bischoff doll next year in time for Christmas. We don't need Alpha Shelf. We need your shop knows full. That's great didn't happen. I'm just having fun. Didn't happen look at you. They'll notre dame shit the crowd you're just wired up man idea that a lot that was that was kind of my giving that and point to make disciples outstanding. I just realized you're doing your best. Jimmy Hart oppression here. Oh my God you should dick no balloon. He jumped her or a bunny hop his Mickey Mouse. Shit going and I couldn't I couldn't get my voice to squeak like that if you put my nuts in a vice I couldn't get my voice in high. Well I know what I'm trying next time you stopped. Let's just hypothetically hypothetically what would happen you may Ted Turner's money life. Brett was Brett was so cool here. Never changed. Expression once caught me just when I thought I had had bread in the palm of my hands just when I thought he was going to buy that seven and a half million dollar bullshit he pumps the brakes. uh-huh Eric Bischoff could be in trouble magic in slurs visco just when you think you have Bret Hart right where you wanted him. And you had complete control all the situation Eric. He pulls the rug out from underneath you and froze a giant fucking monkey wrench into your plans. Oh Shit Larry's going to kick my ass. That's what I'm thinking right now unless at less I can fix this unless I can resolve love this problem. I'm in a world of trouble. How's that commentary on my own frame of mind broaches looking at me like crazy? I wonder what Brett was really thinking at this moment. Paid for this. He's getting the the richest contract of his career. And he's going to referee a match between Bisco and Eric Michaud. We'll get your pose. Look at the way. Listen I was one of the best characters go and you have to admit it. It's hard for me to say that with a straight face but it's true you are great television character without question. which is one of the reasons I think when you went back there earlier this year a lot of people were like? Oh they're going to bring him in on screen because you did such a good job. Yeah but that was twenty some odd years ago. I'm a little outside of the demo nowadays. If you know what I mean how many how many a sixty four year old people you think wrestling fans WanNa Watch on television. I'll talk Without exception require seventy K.. Another exception just saying I mean when I think of you know all Tom Elderly Gentleman. HOPE PEOPLE WANNA see on TV. It's like Vince. McMahon Eric Bischoff all Cogan ric flair all time elderly elderly Bro. You're AARP AARP like when you were in town everywhere we went. I'll let you drive because we got to par closer. We didn't you muck her father. Elderly we did have to eat supper for thirty but it was worth it. We went to daddy's to get the older age. It's just if we let you pay. It was always fifteen percent cheaper great. I'll use such a Dick elderly so for some anybody's called me elderly and fairness I was. I'm I'm sixty four years old. I'm not elderly house referring to pop. Pop He seventy okay. That's that's old it is old. Oh my God. It's older other than dirt. Does jerk get that old. I think so okay. Here comes professional. Wrestling's first and foremost foremost metro sexual. Marcus Alexander. Bagwell was wanting to lifetime. He spent on disposable razors GLOB between between the disposable razors the nutritional supplements. We'll even go at that. And you know silicone calf muscles. I don't know he spent a lot of money. I don't think a lot of people are in the loop on that but even when. MTV film like I I forget what the the true life was a decade or maybe fifteen. Maybe even more years ago those reality series called MTV true life and it would be like I have this. I'm doing that whatever his was like a botched plastic surgery and he had half implants that were leaking and not going according to plan so he met him in. Charlie's or something this gap in plans and then all these years later I realized. Hey that's why. Oh I wrestled with these loose boots. Because he was concerned with what flair would call miniscule cavs miniscule and you know you look at these big muscled up shoulders. He's got a big thick neck. It's a great arms chest but for whatever reason you know I guess. Calf muscles didn't respond to the type of workout nutritional supplements he was using at the time and he just couldn't get CAV's who had the cavs over one hundred thirty five pound guy you know in the upper body of a two hundred and forty pounders in decided to get silicon calf implants and took a tremendous amount of heat as a result. Let's talk about that. What type I mean? How did the boys now see stupid enough to tell them or he has to tell the office? I can't work this week because I got Kevin Plants. I don't know I don't remember that that was before I really got into management management when I was still living announce I'm not sure how appropriate at the time off to be able to pull that off. But the abuse he he had to take backstage was relentless. Sure by the way Oakland was scheduled to interview lex. Luger Luger's musical play with those Bagwell. Who came out? Then they switch to the end of your music and buff is essentially saying Luger's never won't ever beat him liquors GonNa come out and make fun of buffer celebrating Dehu and count out when he won the Super Bowl and then he says while you were jabbering away away buff. I checked with a production crew and they said there's time for a match and buff said. There's no referee so Lugar is going to bring out nick. Patrick Buff says he needs to be warmed armed up to fight and liquor slaps into that we're off to the races muscles monitoring combustion. You never know what's going to happen. Isn't that more interesting than having this match booked and promoting in a week earlier when something happens spontaneously when it feels organic ganic guess what subconsciously. The viewer home thinks it's real. They allow themselves get sucked into the storyline or the angle single. Or whatever it is. You're trying to do here spontaneity folks if you're listening out there come on spontaneity make it feel real woah. Begging you quit promoting. This shit doesn't matter promoting this stuff. That's going to happen next week and nobody cares. Doesn't it tell you something. Wake the lockup sorry the engine. Let's talk about Brad Hart the next day. He says the following morning at the Charlotte airport ran into into none other than earl. and Dave Hefner Earl came up to me with his hand out in an apologetic look on his face and refuse to shake his hand warning. Him Calmly don't talk to me. He insisted that he didn't know. What was Sean advanced until he was on his way out to the ring and Montreal? What do you mean you didn't know I told you are all you promise me you swore on your kids but in the end I forgave him? I knew that Vince held earls livelihood and hands and the only thing earl was guilty was not having the guts that they could stand against the man he wrote the cheques. Then Dave asking me if I thought Bischoff what either take him or airline and I told him to ask. Do you remember ever being asked or ever considering considering doing business with neighbor Oh header If he did ask me I don't remember not saying he didn't say I don't remember it. I think I would have remembered it. I mean I don't know it's hard to say but I you know it's like wait a minute. Purchase to hire the referee. That was part of the screw job right. That would have that kind of stood out to me but then again who knows maybe maybe it was over the phone and it was part of another conversation. I don't know I don't WANNA call. I'm I'M NOT GONNA call bullshit on it. I just remember two things I want to ask you about one. This comment from the observer even though Bischoff is a good performer in his role as a major mass coming at the pay per view. The idea of him running out four different times on Nitro is bad on a lot of levels of so many quality wrestlers. I was not able to get any airtime let alone interview Tom. It's a morale keillor best the charges of an ego being out of control going to naturally be everywhere. He's not saying that you have an ego out of control but he is saying that this would lead a lot of guys who argon. TV Time to be upset free style and he's probably not far off. Did you ever consider when you would see a format like this like Oh four times. I don't know that I need to be out there. That often or was it. Well you know some level I gotta get this shit over and I got a cell. I and I don't know who I can count on to do it but I know I can so I'll go do it. It was neither neither It and I look Dave Road at that. Time was accurate true a good observation solid observation I think in in hindsight I wouldn't let any performer. Go out four times on the show knowing what I know now it although I it didn't really you know it's not that I didn't know what it said I didn't I didn't put that much credibility into it But I wouldn't have gone out as often as I did and I think the reason for it though and again this is gonNA sound like rationalizing justifying it. I'm not trying to do that because it at the end of it all it it is wrong. You're either over exposing the talent or you're you're spending to your you're over exposing the talent and you know overshadowing other talent that these on but here's the thing it's fucking work in. It's hard hard not to go out in. Put yourself or put somebody else in certain situations when you know you've got a hot story and you gotTa Hot Angle and in my case and it's really awkward talking about myself like this but there wasn't a lot of people in the industry that had more heat and I'm talking about in wwe or WCW. That had more heat than I did at this point. I just did and you know. Part of the the real pleasure and be he'll it. Has that much heat. Is You know you're going to be able to get a lot of people people over with it in other words my case in particular and this is you know this is really the beginning of me allowing people to kick my ass up until this point. I think you know people would occasionally but for the most part I was playing that could shift. You'll pretty well and not allowing people to get their hands on me with a few exceptions And because of that I was able to sustain my but like I said the co part of that is you know at some point. You'RE GONNA you're you're gonNA give that heat back to somebody you're gonNA give all that energy back in equity so it was a lot of fun but I think probably clouded my judgment more than anything up not the ego part of that was all I get to be a TV again. That wasn't it's never been that for me. It's never been that for me. Not The first time I didn't for somebody was on camera. I didn't want to be on camera. I had no choice in the matter. You know when I became an announcer it was more on. The sesame was something that I was decent debt. I wasn't one of the best announcers going and I know that but in terms of play by play I was not as good as Tony but close enough to be functional national and then when Nitro came along I was probably better than anybody in that play by play role because it was mine. I I mean I I knew it. I knew where we're going what I was trying to communicate better than anybody And I was probably more passionate than anybody else could have been in that role for obvious. Reasons Those are the reasons why I did it. Not because my ego required it but I do think my judgment was overshadowed by the fact that they had so much heat that every time I walked out there you'd get that reaction and all that did was made me go a great you know that's just they're just investing in the character they're investing in the story. Am We could use this to get other things over and that really was my logic but it was. It was bad logic. I love in W sign. That said Nash was was always. That's awesome. I saw that. That's funny something else in the Observer in this era says Bischoff signed a four year contract contract extension boy of all the times to get an extension just a couple of days before the biggest pay per view ever when everything sold out. This is good timing for a new contract. Congratulations Cancer Oh I did I send you. Contract was oh well. That's why I was so fucking giddy eighty. When I was in the rain we got paid by? I didn't have a nose full of blow I had just signed. A new four-year deal a blow in a pocket. Full of DOE air. You Go. Oh It'd be hip hop artis. Well I don't know about that but if you're looking for a new let job genius power your job search job genius offers free advice on job. Searching resume writing interviewing and tips to Asia first day on the job visit expresspros dot com slash job genius today or just search for job genius on Youtube. I let their educational video series. Be Your gone for entering. 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Each week Nick Express has thousands of open positions. Don't go it alone and your job. Search get to know express. Find your local office right now. At expresspros dot com or more on the express jobs APP and we We were thank express. This is Our next to last show this year. They've been a big sponsor for us this year. They've helped a a lot of our listeners. Get some new gigs. And if one of your New Year's resolutions is to get a new career started or just make more money in your same line of work next year you need to checkout express pros curt Hennig. God I Miss Kurt by the way. How great would he be eh today if he was still around with this? Whole INEX- T. W. stuff and the rise of conventions the rise of podcasting? He would be a natural Ashra fit for any of us. Oh my God yes especially at a podcast. He's another one great sense of humor the stories that he could tell. Oh my God that'd be awesome timing and went and sense of humor. The perfect cast the perfect podcast. Come on so many good names would have been great and you know no he would've had some fun Interactions that inventions. And and stuff. I mean can you imagine doing a podcast with Kurt Hannie asking about his favourite ribs. Oh Oh my God it would have been tremendous. Does he was like the king of ribs right now. What you've heard over the years Fuji or supposedly through the biggest? Hey I know that you You get tired of me. According to The Observer but man there was something in it this way that I was just like this is this is fucking something else you know the the new Richard Jewell movie you and I talked about and our and our friend Who listens to this show? And as a as a big fan of our podcast Paul Hauser is The lead character. He plays Richard Jewel in the movie and The Observer. This week they wrote mock today and noting the new Clint Eastwood movie on Richard Jewel. The came out noted that you'll once came to a WCW show in Chicago was a party at the House of Blues. Arranged by the General Bruce Macarthur who was one of Ric flair's best France and as part of the Chicago Blackhawks ownership group. Joel's in town. Because he and his mother were guests on Oprah that day and went to Nitro after Joe. Joe came over to me. Bobby Heenan today. When Bobby Heenan said Richard let me take you down? Memory Lane. Kabuntalan jewel turned completely lately pay all and he and his mother quickly laughed and that was in the Observer. Thought that is the most Bobby Heenan story. I have ever heard fucking ever ever while you never. I'd never heard that before but as you Riga to be. I could actually hear Bobby Heathens voice just saying the words. That is so typical. Bobby I don't know if it really happened. Not or something that I would imagine might today. must've told till that. Version the story or his his take on the story today So it's probably true but God I could hear that I could to hear that. o what he'll come boom by the way. Go check that movie movie out No matter what you think of Clint Eastwood or politics or any of that nonsense. This is a wrestling fan. Like one of us Van Front and Center we got support our brethren checkout polston movie. I love clear. Swift directed movies. Did you see the mule all I did I love. I just watched that the other night. I was having a hard time getting to sleep so I put it on on Netflix. Or whatever I found it it is such a great great movie. Clint suggests such a great actor. Is this data. Integrate director. Just was like you can't do anything you know. Oh you can't turn on the media at all anymore without there being controversy somewhere for something about someone and it feels like with this movie. I guess somebody took took issue with. I don't know the representation of a woman and I don't know all the details but I just know. There's a little bit of controversy but when I actually look and see like you know reviews for people who went to the movie did really really well. No guy like Clint Eastwood is going to get a ton of negative publicity from anybody that you know. Pays any attention to his politics. And they're gonNA shit all over the movie because I don't like his politics which is really a shame. I mean the move is the movie has politics politics of two different things but now people just I think so. Many people wake up every morning. Just just saying they're going to hear or read something that makes them feel like a victim so they can go on social media be critical of other people and demonstrate. How much of a victim? They are awoke the are or how much better than they are than everybody else. And it's just it's it's sad it's sad had it makes social media not so much on. I've actually quit following a a number of people not because I dislike them or or or anything else but just the negativity in social media's just overwhelming daddy took going to have. I don't know that you saw the young bucks actually got off twitter last from I. I can't imagine you know in the position of their n and just the the negativity that you can find online. I look I guarantee you. There's a lot of people that are really up. Supportive of E. W they've got a great fan base you know just about. Everybody wants them to succeed because because we do need alternatives. There needs to be something different. There needs to be competition. They're just does. In order for the professional wrestling sports entertainment industry to be healthy thirty it has to exist otherwise it will just die a slow very slow but a slow death so I think anybody. That's really honest with themselves. Thousand knows anything about the industry should be very supportive of a w that being said it doesn't mean that you can't critical of them or question or challenge them from time to time the same way you would your favorite sports team or you know one of my favorite shows Mrs be watching the TV right now is power. There are times watching that series on television goal. Why did they do this like this? Why they didn't do it like that? I mean that's part of being engaged in something but when you're just being negative for the just the sheer twisted fucked up joy of being negative so you can watch other people react to it at that point take time out gotta go so. I don't blame them you know. They're the boxer in anybody associated with E. W Right now. They're still a little bit of the honeymoon phase but I'm beginning to see a groundswell of people that are just wanting to take shos just for the sake of taking shots to prove that they're smarter or they could do better or whatever and it's very unfortunate one more thing and then I'll move on you WanNa plug our buddies movie The Richard Jewell moving has a ninety six percent audience score on rotten tomatoes. So keep that in mind. If here's some I poop and on the movie ninety six percent of those who saw recommended it and Doug so you don't listen to their fans coming in Charlotte is fired up. I look look at rainy Anderson. He's got rips fucking hi Al.. ADP's trying to get the God of downward facing dog he's GonNa be now Charlotte cops upset that we're working with Doug to care the situation once again a backstage a guarantee that person who tried to hit that ring. I was feeling that the next morning oh without question so the ADP Colin out Mr Perfect curt saying hey how are you feeling. And of course the ended up IOS GONNA come out and They make their way to the ring. DDP's going to scoot through the crowd and then we're going to see Quite like the finish here to this show and this is what nicer was all about man. The hot finish has been doing this. Really really well here comes trotting out with the big gold belt Conan. Cogan the Macho man in Tow and second wave has Scott Norton and Scott Hall back there and Mike Jones not everybody. They mean the t the a team the B. Team C. team. We were all one team. We were all. Even the Kurt was just here in retreated. He's now look everyone's looking up. The fans are Celena element DP going through the crowd. DP In nineteen ninety-seven man became a player. You look at the beginning of this year. The diamond cutter with the outsiders and the superdome. And then we're closing the year and he's going through the crowd and he's a made man now. It's all because of you know the interaction with the interview. I what the outsiders than the monumental feud with randy savage that. You're the one feud of the year in pro wrestling illustrated really really really a banner year for DP. I honestly I think a lot of it started. I mean there's no one thing you know they got DP over as much as it did It was a combination of a lot of things including probably we've not least of which is his own hard work and commitment but getting rid of all of his goofy s S. gimmicks and making a really a man of the people coming down through the crowd leaving through the crowd. You know the kind a reaction that you're GonNa get when you do that and that crowd reaction you know a two DP. Come down through the crowd or leaving through the crowd probably got him over as much as anything Any one thing It changed everything for him and he really did. He became ill. It became the workings man. Talent if you will who. What's this the lights? Go Out. You know what that means Buki Cookie. Uh go lights are flashing. The mystery of the lights are back on. Where did he go he disappeared? This is craziness. Hulk Hogan nervous is a cat in a hot tin roof. Another again Jesus Rice. They'll breed them that smart Charlotte today. How how about dillinger was smart unclogged on the inside of the ring? Knowing spending we've had jumped so far citizens lots go out. Somebody's GONNA jump in. He was already in the rink waiting. How the fans right now? Are you thinking as we're watching this now that it's dark how many fans are thinking about now. I can go in now I can make it happen well. I'm really hoping that happens next week on smackdown back down with for a bunch of ladies doing a flash mob dance you call for it smack data we do. We see any eighty three weeks of posters on smackdown. Last night you now. I heard that there was a t-shirt but I I think it's a see the actual episode. I'm going to have to look for that. ooh Look saying now. He's on top of the. Oh my God he's he's moving around the entire arena. This guy is not human. He's not re this is. This is cookie spooky staying here. This is really cookie spooky. Stay sting on the on the top of the. WB says such a cool visual you know. I wish she got sold. That as opposed to people would have on it. Can we rip it off and sell it now. What you know I will get us a cease and desist from WB? And at this point. I've got so many I use it to keep a wall a wobbly coffee table millennial not only that we could make a lot of money before that cease a deceased sis hits. We can sell that. We could sell that idea out before the season deceased gets here by the time. The cease-and-desist comes we've already made all of our money we would've already desisted dammit. It's as a business plan. Oh my gosh and businesses white-hot for WCW guys are on your your death march for WCW stockade nineteen ninety-seven the biggest main event van wrestling history at that point certainly the most talked about in the history of WCW. You'd have to go back to hug and savage wrestlemania five. Maybe even Hogan Andrei Wrestlemainia three. But even those none of them had the length of the storyline that this one did nor the heat were on our way. You could go enjoy that show any anytime we back. In the archives eighty three weeks dot com. We should mention as you might imagine. Nitra gets a four point one for the show Rog. It's a two point seven so it's smiles all around and it'll be smiles next week. Of course this is our next to last show of twenty nineteen. We're going to finish out the year strong next next week. We'll be covering stockade. 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"For an in depth look into canada's racialized communities go to perspectives at global news dot ca a place to learn what it means to be a person of color in canada visit global news dot ca slash perspectives. Our cities were built for them and our highways are full of them. And although the infrastructure we used to travel in cars isn't undergoing a seismic shift. What's inside the car is and those changes will ripple out past what's within those four wheels. I'm adam toy. And i'm dave mcivor and this is. Why did you know that norway cells way. More electric cars per capita than the us norway. Why won't stanton. That's will ferrell throwing down the gauntlet for general motors. Gm is the latest auto manufacturer to promise changing a majority of their models to electric toyota. Hyundai kia chrysler nissan renault. The vw group volvo. Honda announced a major shift towards electric vehicles within a ten year time span. Even ford electrified. The mustang it seems like a lot of car companies are making their future electric. But what does that mean for canadian consumers and energy industry that's based in oil and gas markham. His love is an energy and climate journalist and is the publisher of energy media energy with an eye. Thanks for your time marcum marcum. You have been covering the transition of of energy from a hydrocarbon oil and gas base to Something a bit more. I guess electrified so you were top list to bring on to talk about these All of these car companies that are going electric. Just a a list that i put together here. This morning has all the big players going having majority or a significant portion of their fleets electric by twenty thirty. Your toyota's your vw group. You're kia ford and that's even before we talk about purpose. Built slake tesla where in your mind do all of these car manufacturers fit in in. What's their role in pushing this transition away from from oil and gas from hydrocarbons to electric depending on how you define a transportation take sixty or seventy percent of all consume oil consumed globally and ground transportation. I think is fifty percent of all oil. So it's it's a it's huge and there's one hundred million barrels a day of oil consumed you know globally so any kind of reduction in oil consumption is going to affect prices. And then we'll we'll see who's who's still competitive as as demand declines and. It's an open question at this point to give alberta producers will be the it's i'll give you a little anecdote here at because back in two thousand sixteen seventeen. I was interviewing battery scientists down in the us. People like mike tony at the stanford university and they were saying well. You know what we think that lithium ion in its current state will be around till twenty. Thirty and prices will become competitive. Electric cars will become competitive with internal combustion. Engine cars around twenty thirty early twenty thirty something like that. Well where we are today is where they thought we would twenty thirty. That's how fast things of accelerated recently interviewed Dr james frith. Who is the head of energy storage for bloomberg any f- and they're probably the most you know when it comes to battery prices and electric vehicle forecasts. They're they're really definitive authority. I think and he was saying that You know ten years ago. A battery pack electric vehicle about eleven hundred dollars kilowatt hour today it averages one hundred and thirty seven dollars and buy in just two years it will be a one hundred dollars and one hundred dollars is at that. Point is the threshold electric car. It'd be the same price as an internal combustion engine car. But here's the kicker out twenty thirty that same battery pack will cost fifty eight dollars a kilowatt hour and in the twenty thirties of may get down as low as thirty dollars so electric vehicles are not only going to be. The sticker price is going to be cheap by the cost per for occur kilometer to drive is going to plummet. And that means that really. Now what we're talking about is death of the passenger car and the death of the gas powered Pickup truck and but more importantly we don't talk about this a lot but it's the medium and heavy duty vehicles cigna. Garbage trucks Long haul freight tractors. Lecter diesel buses. I think they consume twenty five to maybe a quarter to a third of all the gas and they are going electric in a in a big way as you mentioned. It's that cost of making batteries. That has been a real challenge for manufacturers analog of cost per kilowatt hour two dollars per liter of gasoline that we can use. I haven't seen that calculation but a couple years ago The canadian energy regulator used to be the national energy board one of their economist did is cost of driving. So that's you know you take all of the costs that are associated with the life of a car and the price of fuel and so on and you figure out a cost per kilometer and using twenty eighteen date data at that point was already slightly cheaper to drive an electric car and slightly more expensive. I think it was like a cent per kilometer. Drive a pickup truck while given how much prices have come down over the last three years. Those back costs per kilometer is now significantly lower. So this is the real li that sort of double barreled Approach or a threat to gasoline powered. Diesel-powered vehicles is it not only. Are they going to be cheaper than the sticker price price pay on the on the lot but they're also the price per kilometer. Travelled is going to be way way lower and at that point in the game. I think it's going to be you a stampede For everybody to buy an electric vehicle and phase out there. They're old gasoline. Now you say we're at the tipping point. There is going to be a stampede or you expect there to be a stampede of people rushing to buy electric vehicles more than already are that to my mind presents a threat an existential threat to The the oil and gas industry is is. That is that correct. Well almost all of it has turned into into fuel. I mean that's the prime Some of that. I suppose might find its way into petrochemicals or asphalt binder or something else. But i think you can just assume that all of it is is turned into some sort of feel in a refinery and i think in this case. It's really hard to say when the existential threat will become a cute for alberta We don't. i asked an economist here a few years ago. I said what we know that you know in two thousand fifteen twenty thousand sixteen. When there was a million and a half barrels a day of oversupply. That prices collapsed. I mean albertans will remember two thousand fifteen twenty sixteen as some pretty dark days in the industry and i think there were down west texas intermediate fellows lowest twenty one or twenty two dollars a barrel. And so what would happen. I asked the economist. If you took five million barrels day out of that one hundred million barrel a day market so now you go from one hundred million barrels to ninety five and what would be the impact on alberta. He said we don't nobody's nobody's modeled that so what would happen. If it's five million. What happens with his ten million. What happens if it's fifteen million. We don't know the answer to that. But you'll hear industry officials and the premier kenny say with great confidence that even in twenty years. If they're seventy million barrels a day of oil demand alberta will be just fine. You cannot say that with confidence because there's simply is not been the the work done to understand that the the economic modeling to my best of my knowledge. I haven't seen it and this communist wasn't aware of it. And so i think what we have to assume is is that this that there is disruption is is already here and that alberta has to adapt to uncertainty. I think that's the biggest threat in the short term is just growing uncertainty. Because what happens now because oil and gas is seen as a sunset industry oil companies either can't get capital or capital. Cost them a lot more money. There are subject to much more stringent climate policy. And more of that is going to becoming. Now we're talking about in the eu carbon carbon tax border adjustment. So you don't have a carbon tax in your country then. They will slap on and on imports on all sorts of these kinds of threats are being experienced by the oil and gas industry. Not going away. This is not this. None of bug. This is a feature of the industry going forward in the two thousand twenty s. Proponents of oil and gas will say well. How are you going to drive a car to make a car without You know plastics without rubber. That is made from oil and gas. Is there any in previous conversations. You and i have had you even said you know. There's an opportunity to turn spin bitching into Carbon-fiber which is is a major weight savings measure for a lot of these higher end electric vehicles. What are some of the ways that that canada's oil and gas industry can pivot to embrace that sort of gracie electrification vehicles. Let's take carbon. No alberta innovates is a provincial agency tasked with innovation around the oil the energy industry and so they started four or five years ago on a program they call bitch bitch beyond combustion which is defined Uses for richman where you're not burning it. You're turning it into something else. Some sort of material. Carbon-fiber is one activated. Carbon is another asphalt binder for roads. Construction would be another one and according to their calculations the value When you used bitumen to make something as opposed to making fuel and then burning it when you make something out of it you increase the value per barrel of three to four times. So i think they're calico calculation. Last year was that the current value of bitch amid is eighty seven billion dollars a year and the value. If you turned it into a material would be somewhere in the neighborhood of two hundred and forty two hundred and fifty billion dollars and i interviewed a fellow named alex. Walk who's the vice president of sales for zolciak in missouri. There are big carbon-fiber manufacturer. And he's and he's really excited about the ability to produce what they call precursor. So that's the product that gets taken a made into carbon-fiber and make it out a bitching. And i asked them the question. If alberta innovates configure out this process and they think they can over the next five to seven years by the way but if we can do that would would it make sense to put the carbon fiber manufacturing plants in alberta. And he said you always put the manufacturing plant close to the source of the raw material. He said absolutely. There's no reason why. Alberta couldn't be a major carbon-fiber manufacturer and this is hardly the only opportunity. I mean there's then there's natural gas that can be turned into blue. Hydrogen and hydrogen every document hydrogen these right so alberta has other options other than the status quo markham. We know that a vast majority of oil comes out of alberta and then that turns to fuel and as you drive around the country you see gas station stop. The city's highways with the switch to electric vehicles. Will you need to increase the number of charging stations or is it a simple case of just swapping out gas stations with charging stations. Let's say that's a really interesting question began. Its in its complex. For a number of reasons one is. Most people will charge at home or at work. You know so Who wants to go sit at a gas station for half an hour. An hour man vehicle to charge when you can just do it overnight or you can do it while it's in the in the park That being said when people are out and about you know the age range. Now for new levi's kind of around that three seventy five four hundred kilometers. Well that's not bad. I mean you can for most people you know that in a day you'd be hard pressed to to drive that many kilometers so but if he did need a top up you know maybe fifteen twenty minutes on a charger. Now we're getting a bigger and bigger network. Then there's the issue in this game in my interview with dr fritz about Batteries what happens when the next generation of batteries have much higher energy density. That is the amount of electricity today can store per volume of of the battery so that instead of a range of four hundred kilometers. You've got a range of a thousand clocks. well now. Do you need as much charging construction. You know maybe maybe maybe a don't so these are some. I mean this is. The industry is changing really rapidly. And we don't have hard and fast answers to some of us. What i can tell you. Is that their range and access. The charging infrastructure is regularly identified By potential buyers as one of the top. Two of you know talk to of three Constraints to buying so. I think the trend is clear. will lead more of it. How much more we're not currently sure but i think that's the other thing is infrastructure could be built that kind of infrastructure will be built at a relatively low cost in a relatively short period of time earlier. I listed a list of of the various major car. Manufacturers that are that are trying to Transition a lot of their fleets to electric. There's major at the adoption of vs in china and that's giving rise to a lot of chinese manufacturers. Do you think that we could see some really refined envy's coming to the north american market from from china. Oh absolutely no question in my mind. So this is very fascinating. The the whole competition between china and the united states. Because if i if you read joe biden's clean energy plan He says look as america. We seated leadership of clean energy in clean tech cleantech to the chinese. We are now second or maybe even lower than that and he pledged in that planning or two trillion dollars over ten year plan that they were going to that. America was going to be number one in this. The number one clean energy cleantech superpower at the end of his. Okay so that's that's great. But that means that what china did in this very clever is they They look at the automotive industry and they had not had great luck with internal combustion. Engine car manufacturing there were kind of cheap and poorly. They were never able to get up to european north american standards and so they looked at that you know we already have electronic supply chains. We manufacturer iphones and all kinds of things. That are you know. Kind of related to You know electric vehicle. Supply chains and manufacturing and so they put a tremendous amount of resources policy behind fostering a domestic easy manufacturing industry in cars. Yes but also China has hundreds of thousands of what was lead the world by late like ninety nine percent of the world's electric buses and so that's really smart because now they're the leaders in that field and and you know everybody else's playing catch up and i'm sure we'll see chinese electric buses in north america before long and so china has cleverly positioned itself to Sort of leapfrogged over the internal combustion engine automaking industry and and is it's a strategic goal of the chinese to dominate electric vehicle manufacturer. So how smooth do you expect this transition to be. I was reading that. In this country. People used to hitch their horses to their cars to pull them around. That doesn't seem like a great place. During the transition. From horse and buggy to automobile smooth is not a maybe a good way to think of this. I think we can expect lots of uncertainty about this because this is a electric transportation is a revolutionary kind of is revolutionary new technology and i interviewed tony. Cba the Very well known. A global futurist ebro written a major paper on Electric revolution to twenty thirty. His argument is that when you have cheap abundant clean electricity. It changes everything in fact that changes it's analogous to the changes that were brought about by cheap petroleum and the internal combustion engine in the nineteen twenties just as you alluded to and he says that kind of transformation of transportation but also of society and how we we structure our economy. What we do for a living. That's gonna take place in the twenty twenties so there are thinkers out there. Who are you know. Extrapolating the trends and doing that kind of forecasting being revolutionary by literally by the end of the decade. You you. 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Bushy Martin Focus on Your Health Because It Is Your Wealth

"And on the on the gripe career. And i got married beautiful sound and we lived in a one four one four one on the inside. Andrew i was i was actually dawn. Need saw on the lately trapped on the treadmill of became obsessive at work seven days. A wage fourteen hours a day for years on end and nice applause on really has low fellow risk-takers and welcome to my worst investment ever stories of loss to keep you winning in our community. We know that a win and investing. You must take risks but to win big. You've got to reduce it. And i bet you're exposed to investment risk right now to reduce it go to my worst investment ever dot com and download. The risk reduction checklist. I've made specifically for you. My podcast listeners. Based on the lessons. I have learned from all of my guests fellow. Risk-takers this is your worst podcast host andrew stance from a starts academy and i'm here with featured guests pushy. Martin bashir you ready to rock and roll in. I know you are. And i want to introduce you to the audience. So wishy martin helps others to work less and live more through his contributions as an award. Winning author media host. Podcast is one of australia's most highly respected property. Investment and finance experts is the author of the freedom formula and get invested. He is the newly appointed anchor of australia's number one and longest running property program real estate talk and interview some of the world's leading investors and high each week on his podcast. Get in vested bushy. Take a minute and filling further tidbits about your life run. An voice might Lobby page i'd tons adults have tons. Yeah i guess some just to focus on what we really bad at. Law firm mission that businesses really synonymous with lost all andrew and a month fulton stage of. Mauve weird's about getting back. Because on twenty longtime the one truth through when there's about giving early dwellers avery expecting anything in return and he can do if you've got the freedom to toys r. Sorry and he cannot eat the freedom of. You've got tom on your hands again. Una get thomas hands if you're encounter nights at banfield along on you to do so a guest in that context everything we do these really better missino weiqing out hot waking todd poor professionals to actually get invested in themselves and to stop doing what we call. We bought his on northbound folks. I delete within tatum. Clear vision of had. I want to leave and then night schori by Towards and i guess what it means. Is that everything you described is all about helping others the to say that and get investing themselves other books out at business nine. How it's all about really what i'm finding is a lot of people know that i wanna get invested. But i can't say how so. A big part of our mission is really to help people to be able to do that by giving them not held by mate mike decisions that are going to bagels. Whatever because everyone different and against the other big benefit of what we're doing is the in partnering we assist. We want to help others. That are less fortunate than any one of the things that we doing. The mom and his for every dollar applauds invest all for every dollar. We saved them. We done night dies with a loss citing water to the families and take right through for the bay one day one baldwin gave one charity group so by helping each other. We can buy those just done. Have those opportunities that we often youthful. And there's two things that i'm thinking about when i've been talking with you before we turn on the recorder in the first one is that you said something when we talked earlier about self health and wealth. And i'd like to talk for moment about your perspective on those three things units will actually gonna wrap into worst investment ever as well actually because that was one of the big learnings that i took away from what will be told me about about Had spent many years. What i call them the car crash Mid-off crosses berry early. Andrew at the taylor of thirty three and i miss my self in self reflection and read everything on get my hands on on trade sustainable success up and it okay back to history things the people who would save sustainable success those who invest in itself invested in the health and the invested their wealth and the thing applause to all of us raise is what i talk to talk about my book the fighting formulas say everyone's to say it's about ten eleven k tv so tender loving care and teams of yourself so it's about getting your mindset raw. It's about really getting your expectations and your attitude. It's also about the family relationships and the intimate relationships you build around that because they are fundamental to health the say he translates into trust into loyalty courage and online made by that. Is that by focusing on your health. And lets you sleep habits breathing. Have your daughter habits and your excellence. Heavens what comes out of. Is you build the disciplines that wachovia died disciplines in the happy habits then become the foundation stones for believing yourself for trusting itself and then having the courage and the raw assistance approach to been be successful in your wealth activity the foundation stones and then an uneven can be successful in your wealth which is detailed say. There is at tom because dog believe in mind. Experience sustainable success Chinese leverage on leveraging other label in terms of their expertise and other people's money. So that you can actually expand your cindy and then letting the magic of compounding works on tom leveraging compounding intensity wealth but that trying of self no from wealth if you ignored one of them than holding implies wants a lot of people chasing wealth and ignoring that the health or they self and i. I saw sabotaged out. Say abbas the just like us on self and health and put nothing into their wealth in end up in penny-pinching poverty drawn stop wig. Let them a try. As a matter of combining all of us rate which you guys extendable success inherited uniform. That in what i lost all that means to you. So podcast listeners. Why don't you take the bushy martin. Challenge and i'm going to phrase it in my own way by challenging you to think about that. One person could be a daughter a son a wife a friend. Think about that person that you love that you want to bring tender loving care to and now turn it around and bring that to yourself. Treat yourself as though you are the most important person who you love. The most. And i never really thought about turning it on myself but you've now made me think about that so i think that's a great challenge for all of us thing about that today. About how do we bring more tender loving care to ourself. that's grinds on android because they'll self tool. I mean we wouldn't talk to other people the why we talk to ourselves. But that's just so. I mean you're blown me away because you know it's so true if you think about all the doubts and fears and i always you know there was a guest podcast guests on this show named mike Tony in he happened to be my counselor. When i was seventeen and in drug rehab and mike used to say. Don't compare your insides to other people's outsides. And it was such a profound thing because you know when you look at yourself. You're feeling all of your doubts and fears. You see everything negative about yourself. There is nobody sees you as negatively as you even that person who hate you. They're hitting you. Because of one thing probably and uc five things that you're frustrated about about yourself and the point. Is that what. Mike taught me through that. Saying you said other people are just you know putting on their best face. I mean i think robin williams is to me the best example of a guy that had it all and now he's gone any took in that just like i think the lesson is really focus on loving yourself for the podcast listeners. Out the i'd say why don't we make today the bushy martin. Dlc challenge day. Eleven lobby thinking. Let's do it. Let's do it now. I want to. I'm going to ask you some other stuff about get invested. But i want to get into the story. So let's get into it now. It's time to show your worst investment. Ever since no one ever ever ever ever goes into their worst investment thinking it will be tell us a bit about the circumstances leading up to tell us your story. I contemplated imploded on this question. Because it's a really good question. Because i'll be honest on have i might spend every mistake. He can mike and of head a lot of black noises in relation to the investment of the years but affect on. What's been the biggest loss. Come out of those things and which might put a slightly different slant on that question. Because it's it's not what i is what i didn't investing crowded the biggest loss and the must collateral damage from lay in that. That was my first marriage angry. You know always one of is also doors. Country boy brought up to believe it's one waffle off by now very good model because nevada who was a workaholic. His belief was he works hard. Mom looks after the house and brings out the kids. that's a full of model. Didn't work they naturally. And in less on but i was also one of those that was brought up. That wasn't actually very very talented and more. Why of either coming. That was just a wig. how everyone else. That's if you wake out nothing you wear dam was. Why'd you of often. That worked very well. When i was a hospital and worked pretty well when i was at uni and we're seeing marketers and architects while single. Because i could be Laws consumed in being a world leading architect. I was going to have the world winning projects allies in the country and and to some degree. Tell you the level of success in that regard and waiting on some fantastic projects or australian through asia and big tourism resorts on the product on the as rock resort which is an iconic resort in central stryer iran. Australia and on the ad saw your career and i got married and youthful silently a wonderful wonderful hun- on the inside andrew. I was actually going on. Need solid on film lately tracked on the treadmill became obsessive about work. Seven days away four nine years on end and not surprise almost everything and that's because our focus on one thing and that was my career resolve self obsessed and that really knew hi andrew. I couldn't believe in that position like a lost everything. Literally everything out was bent out breaking at thirty three. It was on ground zero start again moment and the damage that it did to me this off into my son. They lost long. Sky us the amount of that x. ause end all everything that i've worked for. Ford was gong just curious. Can you go to the day that you really recognize it. You lost everything you know. The real ground zero. Can you think about a day when you really realize. I really messed this up. Yeah it was a the die. The relationship ended and absolutely distraught and the sodden self and angry at myself injury for landing that happened because i just it wasn't the equation for my lago alkyl. This apple rule determination andrew orlean. There's just no way. I was going to allow that situation heavily. A bicycle withdrew from the wolf. Two years i call up my allergies years where i did my masters in business but that was just a gauze really the get my shit together because the one thing i do that in a lot of other people that getting blind guy remember down solid relationships on i take full. Responsibility fairness wave woman diets that contributed to a dance of of relationship. And what kind of. That was an absolute resolve to never allow that situation to happen again. And most importantly to mike that intimate relationship that that is the most important relationship and you'll off ultimately never till lael anything to getting the road of that primary relationship with everything else around. That side raid studied hypnosis. I was clinic to pray styles. They need the presence at the tall and made a comment hill about took that to ease to really do some highway by myself and at signed. Tom look role models for others. Around through the ideas. In ramlet. Roy that i felt had achieved that ballots level of sustainable success of no from wealth. Realization came into play and interesting not good father. The sign tom Tone his health collapsed without sides. He was always went retarded. Did this when i retire. We're going to do that. And the updater android. He had cancer and a whole series of strikes. Eight spent the last ten years. If he's lawf- held in a wheelchair viglen the saudis mouth. Couldn't use the right hand so on a number chinese fulltime made a photon. Kara wise yet to make that happen on. Never forget won't before he passed. He looked at some on wanting to learn from ample on the stop. Waiting for money and stat getting to work for you that that was a seminal moment for me because deb has always put that on the pedal store. He was not was in pricing in toronto form. And that set me on a cool so that signed battle sign tom mid my now off sonia and we went to arabica sake conference in adelaide. Which is where. I wasn't a tall. And what on refrigerator case ocoee because he saved the moment you might pass investment. Italian your lawf- your awful challenge and literally stabbed to say the world differently. The penny completely dropped at that point and everything we did from the was around flexi on health and wealth event giving out those details saito spike about about becoming passive aggressive. What a million everything we did had to be about building an asset and whether that be a relationship with the business with bain equities with a vein property that drouin value yagi count but most importantly guide your tom back and tom is the the one resource we never get any more open facts diminishing extraordinary and so we got very active in their business in investments. We start on shades. We build up a rent roll without finance business. All of as with a passive income under ton and thank heavens took my dad's voss injury because that these again i've got the fine cold that you never wanna yet and it was a family doctor telling me that my mulbah had twelve months to leave. She had stayed for tim. Lucchese and moms one of these children. Children women i was. I was blessed in the family. I was born so that she spent a whole off giving to others and she was absolutely devastated. Not for our own by the people that she wouldn't be able to continue to hope and out night at decision right there and then you mounted giving her a law to myself from around. I took the twelve months. I spent time with mum. The hod conversations injury laughed at t is nothing was left unsaid and mums. Don wished was to die in bed with the cellphone. Brothers around with rival to allow the dog with dignity in doing that and a- raisin that where i would do that andrew is because the founded boss from years before and we'd we'd invested to degrade where i can afford to take twelve months and not impact us in terms of incoming you familiar. It's all about tom android now. All about law saul and tabet becoming schizophrenic and developing. Triple vision of the woods on us. Because i was selling cycles from one thing. A lot of strands at this focus on pre on the view is that my job is gonna everything law flow. It's a and what. I guess came out of that was that we were able to tom. Back into the things that are really important and put put the big rocks in and in addition to the self health wealth unlocked decide to pay the three five says and becoming schizophrenic in your price On you pissed off cycle. Sony professional off infrasonic passive off. And if you all of is free then you'll enjoy it off now but you have a gripe off later on so if you could summarize the lessons you learn from this journey. I'll probably count them in tokyo. Beverley my book. The frightened formula. Because if i if i hit large it's getting tested it's become schizophrenic and develop at triple vision of self-help woven personal professional impassive. It's recognized it. Sustainable success is a long term journey in applaud the to make that happen and use the woods wealth boss stuff. i think. He's a sustainable. Why dona to recognize the success in one of these is not light teams for so. I baited dumbest person in the run and ceramics over pebble better than you are and then just manage manages. That's because if you're getting taught back if we putting tom back into things that are important to us which friends and family been. You've got to separate yourself from doing so. Maybe i'll share a few things to summarize what i take away from your story first of all. I want to tell the story about an architect in that is my grandson. He was a successful architect. Pittsburgh pennsylvania and his father before him was also but my grandfather probably fit the design of what you've described of a focus that you know. He wrote books he did restorations. He did architecture. But i would say the one thing he didn't do was bring a lot of tlc to the family. And i looked at my father. And i didn't know about this. My father and i started to build a close relationship that in fact my father was in the shadow of his father and his father didn't treat him with tlc. He wasn't abusive but he was not made me. Think about something that you mentioned. And i wrote down things died of neglect in when you neglect a relationship when you neglect of Neglect anything it dies. And i think my father and i were driving to the funeral. His father i asked my father. Why didn't you cry. i haven't seen you cry. And he said i cried years ago. I lost my father years ago and it just reminded me of that story that also touches on you know the the focus of an architect but also what was two things came out of that for me. The first one is at my father never told me any of that till i was about twenty six so bizarre in the you know. He managed to allow me to have my relationship with my grandson. That didn't have anything to do with his relationship with his father in the second thing. Is that my dad changed. He changed himself and is a little bit. Like what you've described about what you've jumped and this is the challenge really to the podcast listeners. You can change yourself and my dad demonstrated that he did not want to treat me the way that he was trying for all my life all my life and all my dad's life. My dad always took an interest in me. He asked me questions gave me support and he was always they're always there and that's what i really one of the big things i take away and i challenge all the listens to to say you can change yourself and it will leave a legacy now. There's two other things that i'm gonna add in in that. Is you mentioned that time is limited resource and it's really all we have but also we have to think about it even more deeply because you mentioned about your father's condition in these last ten years. He had time but he also lost the ability to be able to contribute the way he wanted to contribute. So it's about time inability in what i've learned with as people get older you lose some of that ability and so today is the day you've got to live today and the last thing that i would say that my father passed away five years ago and i brought my mother to live here in thailand. And we've had five years together and she's eighty two now and just like you said we've had all the hard conversations we've had all the discussions we there's nothing left unsaid. It's a challenge. But what i can say. Is that the memories of this time will live for the rest of my life and the contribution and the quality of the relationship will be something i will never forget so boy. Lock him out of that. Those are some of the things. I'm thinking anything you would add to that love. And clearly you're very special man and clear your mother ms and the one thing that also very blessed about and is that i have the joy of spending time with my dad and mom them. I actually might that. Tom played back to adelaide dead. That had these issues and spent tom within in silly mom we had. We had some very precious taller in that loss last twelve months. Which i'm very full not gone. I have no regrets. Because i'd say some people who have only i had more time with tommy that not one of my brothers is like that. He wasn't able to spend the tom and i and that that's downside within three the end of the die families everything it really is. So if you've got disagreements with memo nadal all brothers and sisters to give them don't forget forgive them because if you if he thought the person you're having mustered yourself labor that would be muzzled on that as someone said to me many years ago. Resentment rots the container. It's in uniform. So based upon what you learn from this story and what. You continue one action. Would you recommend our listeners. Tape to avoid suffering the same fate. The one thing do everyday that is suggest everyone does. It comes back to the importance of tom. Tom question site it. would i stop. I was walking on in today. It's going to give me more. Tamara last question and i've been doing that for years. Now nikki thomas do that. It gets easier. Get more toned back and becomes counting. We all talk patail so you you can then add more valuable tom into things that had a big impact. Lock sharing tom with you on this podcast and token to fantastic paypal another podcasts. Inside that's great on bush walk new invest in to die. That's gonna give you more tomorrow. And i think that brings me back to when i first heard you talk about get invested. It made me think about like one of the courses that i teach is. Let's say finance non-financials people which i call finance made ridiculously simple and indian. I talk about the difference between an expense and an acid. Both of them are an outflow of money. Whether you're an expense in a business could be marketing expense or salary expense but it's gone whereas an asset is something that exists and tends to appreciate in value and so fall listeners. Out there i think you know this concept of get invested means to me invest in assets and those assets could be books that could be computers. That could be equipment could be intellectual property that could be the time that you spend with others but the idea is invest is different. Investing in asset is different from spending on an expense. These obviously stayed in a locked in thailand or other positive world. But everyone's tom porn to strive as dies and what happens. Is they until you busier done. Have tom and therefore lost happens to them. Relevant might get apple. A getting is living within taint. It's actually styling so you get clear on. Hey do on leave and then using that as a magnet end as a compass. The everything i'm doing he's letting cross to how i actually wanna leave. Who i to spend time away faultline audio wait month. Ye looks law. It really clear. Vision ltd optic used in socializing in imagining wall. The in gandhi's like mistakes from from heater they actually building create that as a as a habit and as a way of starting to shift from the victim mentality that we say a lot of away blinding something. will someone else for indecent. It clear on how we wanted to to leave. And then we towards so speaking of living with intent last question. What's your number one goal for the next twelve months. Eleven will again via contrarian injury don. Because i had this tradition. I had three goals. That are really k. Yet and if i if i break them down into the best or professional in the passive what reps small together is helping giving other two hours really the the Shift from coal from success to significance of at that stage of law on getting into the legacy side loss. I want to help people on the personal front often. I guide to be spending three months traveling the as tries to mistrial identifying sought for what we call our reflections found retraite will. We'll be running living bodies on lebron's and as an architect of his on monday. It's not added standard. Mike that happened. So that's on the pistol front on the professional front. It's really about building down the little stack tool host enka rolling a lot loving that wrong wound and looking at how we can evolve that integrated between the getting podcast and the mental side talk of adding real value and giving gripe wise to the to the listening audience. So that's on a professional from as well as fed developing that the one day one concept of everyone. We help whether it be by everydollar story. Donald we saved them then raid giving dies with of loft citing wards family's intake The this concept of helping each other help out less is a k. On on that front in fawning the passage on the equation. A one hundred finish this year. But i'm working Getting spot which is actually tightening old ago out of the cast aside that we've been doing either last ready because i talked to some fantastic platorm shades effluent goals in the insults and bullying that into a damage of book. That gives raiders really good quality in sauce with some action type. Wise youthful. lots of clarity alright listeners. There you have it another story of loss to keep winning. And i just thought with my number one goal while my number one goal for the next twelve months is now my listeners. Reduce their risk. It's the whole purpose of podcast. So if you wanna reduce your risk in your life go to my worst investment ever dot com and download. The risk reduction checklists. That i've got and see how you measure up as we conclude bushy. I wanna thank you again. For coming on the show on behalf of ace dots academy i hereby award you alumni status for turning your worst investment. Ever to your best teaching moment. Do you have any parting words for the audience. Love experience civility. It's really simple for me. Just getting tested and if listeners one to now get more head offered free coffee Get invested when she can get from the yet not have property dot com that iu web sought. They're afraid can get a free copy despite the prestige in what you're taught and wake you up to stop titans. Reggie tighten control of ewing often. Living the way that you won't leave beautiful great offer. I'll have a link in the show notes so that you can get that for the listeners. So ladies and gentlemen before. I closed this episode. I'm wanting to challenge you to think about the person who you love the most. Think about that. I now i want you to take the bucci martin. Tlc challenge and love yourself just a little bit more than that person. And that's aram another great story to help us create grow and protect our well fellow. Risk-takers this is your worst podcast hose andrew stance saying. 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Hour 1: Jimmy Butler

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

33:16 min | 2 years ago

Hour 1: Jimmy Butler

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This is the Dan lebatardshow with this to got spot casts. Here will put it on the poll plays. If you do not mind. Is the only thing the bills have done in the last twenty years insistently throwing a sex toy on the field when playing against Tom Brady. That's I believe it's the best thing. The bills franchise has produced in twenty years. Stan Van Gundy is with us as he will be throughout the basketball season on Wednesdays. Nathan Peterman and close second. And that was so sad. The end of the Monday night football game. I was sad for fan bases. I've ever been Derek Anderson limping off to the locker room to be replaced by Nathan Peterman. But the last couple of weeks, STAN Van Gundy has been with us television and radio, unfortunately. There's no television today for STAN Van Gundy. So you cannot see that he is dressed up for Halloween as gritty the mascot from the Philadelphia Flyers. That's how he is dressed. You can see the rest of us here. We've got billions as a bald eagle. I could see his face through the chest of the bald eagle? We've got Patrick Mahomes. I could see the smiling face. And now, it's an insecure face. I can see all of your face. I need those faces show. So Chris looks a lot. I think Chris has got the best costume around. Here. Thatcher Mahomes, fat trick Mahomes, ROY is a hockey player of some renown. What is the hockey player of some renown who you are being here? Well, if I had a goalie mask, I will be Malcolm Subodh, PK's broader, but on the so. Okay. It seems like you just wore your normal attire. We just happened to have a hockey helmet. I mean that's on play for does he play for the Las Vegas nights. Malcolm Savan is the goalie for Las Vegas. Thank you. I don't know. What ROY is what Mike is an old time vaudevillian personality of some sort just happens. I came in trying to pay off grid of death punishment, which was a villain. And so I'm doing a vaudeville, Ian, who's mustache just felt off while you're speaking and then Stu gods? And I got this wording my clothes, which made me initially think that he was going to be mean for Halloween that was one of the best costumes. We put together when you're when everybody was me for Halloween. It was like being John Malkovich except fatter and we are saying. Is stand there laughing back there. So yesterday was a fun basketball night. What stood out what stood out for you? Stan. What the hell's going on with the rocket? Well, they don't have James harden. So Mike Tony said they lost their swagger. And I said, yes, swaggers name must be James harden. But terrible idea. We'll put that on the poll is swaggers named James harden is STAN Van Gundy. Right. That's swaggers. Name is James harden. I think they were wanting to with hard. But STAN is right. I totally agree with him that. Yes, swaggers name is James Hardie Sam how do you think we've been talking to you for a while about the whole Jimmy Butler thing? How would you be handling that right now if you were you were the guy in the NBA who had the power the skill the power set most similar to thebig does in every way. How would you handle all of that? I think just what he's doing. Right. I mean, they're playing pretty well they're playing without Andrew Wiggins. They're hanging in there. They're being competitive other than one game. Jimmy Butler is played. Well, their team has been competitive. You know, you're not gonna make a move unless somebody's going to offer you something that makes you better. I mean, and I think that Tom's going to hold his ground on that. We're going to see do you believe? Like, many people do that Karl Anthony towns has in some ways been broken by Jimmy Butler. Well, if he has then you can't build your franchise around him. I I know that for sure I mean, if the fact that Jimmy Butler has been critical of him or hard on him or whatever and that's broken. Then that's not a guy you're ever going to be able to build around. Do you believe in soft? Do you believe in the idea of player as talented as Karl Anthony towns, who I I think a lot of people would like to start a team with him right now given the evolution going on baseball. Or what are in basketball? What have six months ago AB starting an average team? Am I wrong? Like wasn't Karl Anthony towns in terms of young player? Big evolved. The skill set. That's ridiculous. Should he's still being college. My is he's still college aged es about that. When do you have a soft guy? How do you realize that you've got a soft guy stand? Well, I mean, soft is a thing and everybody's going to have their own definition. But I'm not going to call Karl Anthony towns, soft what I will say about Karl Anthony towns is to this point in his career. He has not shown a commitment on the defensive end of the floor at all that will help that team win games. And to me, that's even more of a problem because he's played for a guy like content. Oh, who is a guy who emphasizes defense teaches it very well. So he's not like Karl Anthony towns is in an organization that just doesn't put a great deal of emphasis on the defensive end of the floor. He just hasn't decided it's important enough yet. And until he does it's going to be hard to build a winner around him. Let's veer to football. I'm surprised that the deadline day trade deadline day got past us yesterday. And nobody was. Paying attention a bunch of people were traded, and we didn't celebrate football trades at all, but let me give you a stat of the day from football as the Tampa Bay bucks try to decide whether they should just wave. Jameis Winston after the season. Or what do you do with him? Give me the short version here. Mike, I don't wanna waste standing Gundy's valuable time stat of the days that will be day in this stat of the day. Start of the day start will be date, and they see a stat of the day. Start of the day startled me day. And they see a stat of the day start up the day instead of the day, fitness the start of the day. Hey. The buccaneers have drafted twenty-five quarterback since and. Since entering the league in one thousand nine hundred seven seventy six exactly none have signed a second contract with the team, according to aggregate or Mike Florio's website that night. None none. How is that even possible that seems like that's not it's not possible, I'm disputing this. Even though it's a pack. That can't be a fact how is it possible? That in starting your franchise you've never had a quarterback valuable enough to resign. You got it from a really good source. I mean, you're still not believing. It's. And it seems implausible and it really does. It seems hard to believe I wanna get into something here with STAN I feel like this is something that we try to cover, but it can be difficult to cover and we move onto the next story of the day. But what's going on? With Maryland football is fascinating where they've got a bit of a revolt and uprising people are reporting players walking out of meaning where the coach is being retained and is being retained after a player died on his watch. And there have been reports of an entirely toxic culture that it's weird that Maryland has stood by this guy who is forty years old. And I think his career record is like ten and fifteen it's it's an odd thing. I'm wondering what it is that you make of it from where you're standings, STAN. Well, I think first of all obviously, they did it investigation. And so I would say they had to be pretty fair with it because they didn't just go with with. Public sentiment. So I'll give him credit for that. But you know, when the players feel as they do and a cloud surrounding the program. I'm with you. It's strange to me. I I don't I don't know how they're going to go forward with him as the coach and think they're going to be able to go out and recruit good players and have the cult build a culture that's necessary to win. I see that as virtually impossible at this point. And for that reason alone, even if their investigation showed that this guy didn't do anything wrong or not that much wrong. I I don't know how that program moves forward with thirteen as the coach should the record or resume factor into the equation. I mean, he doesn't have have. We don't have a right to lease with Ohio State. You would understand why they tried to sacrifice whatever principles. They're sacrificing in the name of keeping urban Meyer. The reason I'm wondering about this is because there's a dead player on his watch. There is a kind of publicity around this team that no school wants around his program. And usually that correlates how valuable are you is where you save your job. And it makes me wonder is their investigation showing to them set of facts are nuance that we don't understand because this is a very hard person to stand behind. And it doesn't seem worth it to stand by. Well, I think the problem is it seems like the fall guy here is is the head trainer. And that's a guy that Durkin hired at said, we are completely, you know, lockstep. Okay. Like at so he's an extension of Durkin at so everyone's and Dirk and said, this is one of the most important hires. I've ever made for the university of Maryland and put it on that guy. And I'm sorry. How can you do that? Like now, you're gonna distance those two when he said, hey, this is my guy, and you know, they're. Control-freak stand like that trainer is gonna do with Dirk. It's telling him to do. Stan. Well, no, I I think the main thing is no matter what their investigation uncovered the question. I'm looking at his how do they go forward and build a football plan of football program with Durkin leading the way. I mean, who do you envision recruiting, you know, you're going to bring them at the best. You get a kid to visit campus. He's now going to meet your football players who don't want you there. I mean, I just I don't know how they move forward at this time. I have no idea what this guy's responsibility was in terms of the player dying or anything else. It's a tragedy. It's unfortunate. Certainly it's a tragedy for Dirk. And also, I'm sure he feels you know as badly as you can feel so I'm not trying to pile on him at all. I just don't know how they're pro. Graham moves forward at this point do God's here. There's nothing small about your business. It takes a lot of hard work. And it makes difference as thank you during gals annual sale. Dell small businesses offering up to forty percents off select PC's with Intel core processors. Call eight seven seven by doubt to speak with a small business. Technology advisor today, you'll get tech advice and one on one partnership to help your business grow all eight seven seven by Dow that's eight seven seven by Dell. Donlevatar talking forward. Going added his heart as they can stugatz. Again, these live at our show with Stu gods on ESPN radio. Wanna wish a happy sixty fifth birthday to unpire and guy who looks like a baked potato Joe west and happy. Happy birthday to him. I don't care. Good luck. Also, happy fifty first birthday to that raging reinvented fraud vanilla ice. I don't care. What about sixty seventh birthday for Nick Sabin? Good luck. All right. Very good. Man. Saving looks good at sixty saving looks better at sixty seven vanilla ice. Does at fifty. You know, what I'd go step further put it on the poll. Guillermo disabled, look better at fifty sixty seven don't you start laughing than standard end? Ninety six either. So at least you had me younger fifty nine. I mean, but savings cheating. We all know, we all know know, what is hair look like at Michigan state. All right. Let's break this story. I want it's kind of boring stands been on with us for a long time. And it doesn't get into enough trouble. Let's go ahead and break. The story. Does stand Van Gundy believed that Mike's chef ski is dying his hair. I have no idea. I have no idea. And they're always protecting these coaches now. Well, the chances are I mean, he might be you know, I mean, that's not genetically gifted or or he is yes, let's play that sound coaching profession to one of the more high stress jobs. He's got jet black hair his age, he's older than Jim Larranaga. Hey seventy-one. Stan. I mean, I have gray hair. I'm forty six a Getty seventy-one ninety single great. That shows you more than anything's ever shown, you that these damn coaches protect each other on everything did you hear me, the outspoken and always find STAN Van Gundy became with maybe kind of it stretches. It stretches credibility to think that he might not be a little gray, regardless. We move onto other coaches this one with terrible hair. We didn't play enough that sound Mike Gundy what I loved about my gun who seems to forget that every important game. He's ever played. He's lost thirty eight thirty one because he's never recruited a single defeat. Offensive player to his school. I mean, he just one one thirty eight thirty one he didn't. So you feel good about himself because he beats Texas that fraud Texas that somehow lost that Maryland team. We were talking about in the first segment, right? But why recruit defense when you recruit wide receiver? But when I love about this guy. Okay. So clearly, he drives to the football game and his nineteen eighty-five transam, and he gets up on that that podium any liens on it after victory, and then like he's leaning on it the way a drunk. Old man would hit on your grandmother and embar he's just very comfortable just leaning on the podium, and then delivering all of this. Criticism where from where? Somewhere Twitter radio. About twitter. Platform for people that are sitting home trawling unemployment check sent in front of a keyboard. Disregard what you're saying. Trust me. I get it at my own house. But I just kinda felt like that social media and Twitter's what's destroying this country. Anyway. So that's how I feel about it Compal ticks sports to whatever gives people a platform. And then other people are like needle in it. And they're sitting at home and they're late on a payment. So anyway, that's how I feel. Gear put it on the poll. Please has Mike Gundy been losing his voice since that come on. Come after me. I'm a man I'm forty rant because it feels like he's been losing pieces of his voice since then. And now, it's just really tattered estate. Can you say by the way that I'm not disregarding what you're saying after you do this? That's right twice double down on the on the raspberry. When was the last time that this was stands analysis of anything privately or publicly? What do you make of the whole thing though, that these these coaches, they're very powerful? He's not wrong. But the way they deliver this stuff with arrogance. Well, he's wrong about stereotyping stereotyping that everyone on Twitter is unemployed. He's wrong about that part. But what do you make of the entire things that well, I just football coaches amaze me because they they have the answers to society not just to to football. So he knows that it's Twitter and social media destroying the world. I could come up with a few other things, but you know, like, Larry fedora. Sure that you know, my guy that you know, the football is what makes this country. Great like, they have all these things they have the answers to our society. You know, there's no nuance. They've got it. It's black and white. I I love him. I do. I love football coaches. What? Oh my God. The bald eagle is on on alert. Chuck solid Toro torpedo from the bottom of the ESPN ship won't a news torpedo, wait a minute, fellow Toro. This is stuffy sends out on behalf of everyone at the network. So we all have things to discuss. And things to argue about the s in ESPN is four Salvatore. He is our content provider. And this is what he is sent out through the entire giant ESPN company. Damn who is this guy. How the Vikings discovered Adam Thelander? That's not news. Why is this clogging? My email. Why you see this is why I don't read company. Time to pay for the deal we make with the dental. It's a question. I mean, but we know the answer. And I'm feeling told us he paid like one hundred and fifty bucks to try out on time at a camp. He told us that two years ago. But there it is I donate this. You can delete that. Yes, we continue with STAN Van Gundy after this donlevatar and finally the shortest most concise tongue twister is toy boat. Try saying that five times fast Toivo, boy hope toy toi toi. Oh, totally. He can closer than I did twenty by Toby. Toby toy toits to God's everybody. Let's go around the room. Chris what do you got? What do you got give us five straight? Toy boats say it has fast you can toy boat toi toi toi toi boat. VC's live at our show with this two guys on ESPN radio. Correct me if I'm wrong about this. We have talked before Stu gods about the idea of when someone dies we tend to do the public eulogies in the ways that can be the most forgiving and flattering. We don't treat them that way in life. But when Richard Nixon dies reading stuff about how he opened free trade to China as well as his scandals. This is what I wanted to ask you though, because I don't think I've seen a lot of this in my lifetime. You tell me if I'm wrong urban Meyer used memory stuff and memory medication as an excuse for why he didn't notice some things that were his responsibility Hieaux state and that understandably became a laughing stock. We all mocked it. What I want to ask you is you hear him say brain cyst from nineteen ninety eight you hear him talk about falling to his knees on the sidelines. This year in a game against Indiana. Do you extend him compassion or is urban Meyer in that rarefied air where he's unlikable enough successful enough and has enough dirt in his past that you meet that news with oh knock it off. You're just starting to trying to gain sympathy. I know it sounds cold. What I'm saying? But I wonder how much of that reaction is out there in the audience with people who don't who simply don't care for urban Meyer or the things that he represent that includes some of what STAN was talking about that college football coach era Gance, right? I think a good portion of the audience there's an IRO there. That's where urban where he's arrived. But you hear brain cyst, and you have it your offering up that now like you had it's it's nine hundred ninety eight and now you're going out of your way to tell us about it. Now right now is. Jews. What I'm saying? Is that brain cysts stops me from whatever judgment? I'm making on that. And it makes me go. Oh, man. I'm sorry. But let me ask, Dan. What are your thoughts here? Stan, I'm with you, Dan. I mean, look health is we're when are in a totally different realm. I mean, I'll attack guys for things they said things like that. But when when it comes to health, I don't wanna see anybody in L health, and I feel very badly for urban Meyer. And I think there's a lot of coaches out there that don't do a great job of taking care of themselves and letting things like that slide, and I hope he gets the treatment that he needs. He mentioned something there that made me think did you read this news yesterday of Whitey Bolger being killed in prison. Have you read some of those details the specific detail, you're asking me, if I read, but it's Whitey Bolger in the mafia in this country has made an interesting lovable stereotype out of the mafia that it usually doesn't extend gangsters. I didn't read it. I got it. So so how about you stand? Are you familiar with any of the details because Whitey Bolger after all of these years? Okay. Because he's a snitch and he was transferred to a different prison and within hours of getting there. Someone who hates snitch is and somebody who was in life for in prison for life for killing. Another gangster is is said to have killed him with other people on our audience at aren't familiar with Whitey Bolger? He was the main influence for the Jack Nicholson character and the departed. He was also portrayed by Johnny Depp in a movie about basically him and just how much of a gangster was turned informant. And I think a lot of people found fascinating this has been a long time. So how how are you living your daily life? When that is always around the next corner. Wet like serious, lots on point you become used to it. Right. Is your stand that's been your life as a fugitive from the law? What would you tell us? What's your expertise on this matter? Well, my expertise is this I was in Massachusetts at the time where all of this was going on. And in fact, his brother was the president of the state Senate there, and so every day Whitey Bolger stories in the Boston papers, you know, in the early to mid nineties. So this guy was not the least bit lovable. I mean, we can have these great movies about the mob, and you can even like some of the characters, but I don't think he's ever been a likable guy. And it's not really all that surprising to me that something happened in prison because he did go sell out a lot of other people. And and generally those guys don't last long when people know who they are. I know, but he lasted long that's the part that I'm surprised by. It's not that it happened. I didn't prison. He didn't the Ramsey did though. Really? What happened? Really? Who are the most famed mafiosos like in because this is I is it a top five name top ten name Whitey Bolger dying. The list starts with Al Capone. That's it. John calipari. Callup lottery. What are you talking about just the truth and nothing, but the truth? Oh. Oh. Dying to pay for the deal. We made with the dental. I wanna talk about this though, I find this idea. Interesting. The idea that evil prime is consistently celebrated in some of our best movie. One of our cells one of our most popular TV shows. I know, but usually we don't like the criminals, we sure as I don't like it when they're in sports. You're looking for likable criminals is that what you're doing that the sopranos did that very well. And and breaking bad. Did it very well and organized crime is often celebrated in the movies you ever put it on the poll organized crime. Is it a popular in the movies or unpopular in the? I mean, Iran did not miss a beat without Warner about that. And Bolger step right in there. Mike, I'm on that. We gotta tell STAN this hippo story from yesterday. Mike got swallowed by executive executive Mike got into the executive business to get swallowed bikes. Stands not going to believe you. We have to go back stance dot going to believe this story. I was having conversations all day yesterday off air about this crap. I think it needs to be discussed on air, more and more. And Furthermore, I think we have to have a bit of a revolt. We need the audience to rise up and create something for the million time. No. The million time. Tell me what's going on in the second in a sec. We'll tell you after the break here dollar dollar shave coming. He's interested in now. It's content. I gotta ask salmon Gundy about our situation. It's not his fault your corporate lackey. Deny. Whenever boy embrace it at least favorite animal in the animal kingdom. Geico presents eyewitness interviews with inanimate objects. This is Belinda Collins live almost thinking of a recent hailstorm here to describe the events of bro. I was just hanging on the roof. When this gnarly storm starts dropping baseball sized hail. The shingles got beat up a few windows broken. It was savage. Did you do anything to help, bro? I was in survival muggy your football can't help you in a hailstorm. But the guy go insurance agency can help you get covered for personal property damage. Call gyco to see how affordable homeowner's insurance can be donlevatar. You are the best. And when I say the best I mean, the very worst and most evil, stugotz the worst. But this time we're species live at our show with Stu gods on ESPN radio. So I spent the entire break being yelled at by Mike Ryan who is trying to do the dirty business of people who are undermining the fun that we have on this show. He reprimanded main. So do you wanna present? The question to stand Van Gundy. Is that to be whatever standing on these now asking what happened with Dan in the hippo? And so I'm just wondering do you want to handle it look? Hey, ESPN Bristol, whoever needs to hear this. High ranking powerful executives Eisner Eiger everybody like Mike Ryan did his job and yelled at me throughout the break representing the corporate interests. Now, you want to explain this damn ain't gonna be what happened yesterday the swallowed you and me both very briefly without adding too much extra to it. The the show came up with a promotion with zoo Miami in which they were going to name a baby hippo if the funds were raised, Dan lebatardshow. It was cute. The hippo actually looked just like, Dan it had sort of a pink beard, even it was a cute idea. However, we went through proper channels, but we discovered. That there was this little known policy that ESPN has about the animals after may or may not be a little known policy to be fair and major seem the Disney policy of hey, we named the animals around here. Like, it may be that it may not be a liability the big deal to them. My big deal. It's made Disney some money that particular formula. I mean, it leaves it leaves open to speculation. But the the flat thing that I heard was just ESPN has this policy about naming animals, and we can't do it and the promotion had to end ESPN generously donated money to the cause hurt just my principles as I said yesterday, and my principles are as everyone knows. I wanna hippo named Dan. It's a chief life principle of mine. Right ahead of carpet diem, but the money is going to a great place, and it will take care of this hippo who is going to have a wonderful non ESPN name car pay. What I'm wondering should we can we name it ESPN lawyer? Can we name it Daniel Baldwin? Can we name it? Stan Van Gundy. Can we name it something else? That's not the potential for a hippo named Dan. Lebatardshow escaping from the zoo and trampling million. As I was hold a couple of times yesterday the day and lebatardshow was stugatz. Officially out on the hippo naming business. We should just sit the rest of this process out. Not be que-. He's just chill it on the half. Oh, all right. So you wanna your thoughts on all of this? And then we'll be done with the subject. But now that you have the information what do you do with? Well, Dan, I admire you trying to stand up for your high minded values. There's no question about that. I would say you stand on principle and fight them all the way on this. I mean, you know, when there's an issue like this that's worth fighting for a societal issue. I don't think you can back down on Mike. It's so Mitch Morton. It's important. And this is how I'm going to inflame the situation. Mike, I'm going to take a knee over this hippo situation. Whenever the anthem is playing. What it's my principal. That's right stand for it. Dan, I'm going to Neo four healing Lord. I will stand for it. Very good. Stan Van Gundy is in with us on Wednesdays and the Lakers are two and five and not defending anybody. Are they gonna defend anybody his defense? What is the most difficult thing to get cohesive? Stan in seven games. Well, it's it's all hard. And I think it's been amazing that they've played the way they have offensively. I mean there the sixth rate at offense in the league. But let's also remember the suspensions. I mean Rondos one of their better defenders was out three games. Brandon Ingram who's a pretty good defender was out four game. So I think it's a little early. To say that this team's not going to defend they also don't have a track record where you can say. You know, they're definitely going to defend I think they're certainly in a wait and see. But I think the Lakers have actually played better than I thought that they would play this early in the year. So, you know, hopefully, they get everybody back. Get their roster together and develop some commitment on the defensive into the floor that will carry them the rest of the way stemming gun you'll be with us the entire show and got a lot of basketball stuff to get to with him. But coming up next. It is going to be STAN Van Gundy. Placing his hot basketball nugget right in your face. That's what's going to happen. How does Mike francesa go to break back after this?

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Hour 4: College Concerns

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Hour 4: College Concerns

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Some equipment described as optional APR valid on Twenty Nineteen Sprinter vans excluding cab chassis only two qualified commercial customers exclusively through Mercedes Benz financial services at participating dealers through. September thirtieth two, thousand, twenty. John Jay Williams in Subic. podcast Friday morning it's an easy job, but let's just be honest he ain't an easy discussion if you've been with us this morning on keyshawn Jay will Zubin presented by progressive insurance. We'd Stephen, a Smith on the Shell Pennzoil performance I'm just about a half hour ago and gentlemen. If you don't mind, I'm going to break some radio protocol. They always say don't welcome back don't say this don't say bottom line about eight thirty in the morning whether you're with us or not Stephen, a Smith was with this at eight thirty in the morning in the east and I've seen Stephen at ten on numerous occasions on numerous topics. But. He busted through to in eleven he was absolute defcon five new killer when talking about Sean, marks, hiring Steve Nash to become the head coach of the Brooklyn Nets. He went off on it yesterday and today he simply responded to this question what's wrong with wondering if it indeed came down to mark saying nobody was more qualified then Steve Nash marks his mind what's wrong with why no black men were considered for the job and Steven as mind I will say marks joins us this morning and said there were some diverse candidates looked at no specifics there steven a. y. no black guys in the mix what now? Somebody, like me point out you. Okay. D-. We couldn't make sure we did that. We couldn't make sure we did that. Society, we have people getting on us to make sure we do it. So what's wrong with after returning the favor? If we're not doing something that we're not addressing certain issues whether privately directly or publicly, you're trying to tell us you ain't have a play or two or ten or twenty told you out some capacity and say, Yo you need to bring attention to what's wrong with me doing nothing wrong. I'm I'm not talking about firing white folks. Than Nyein White folks to opportunity is a white man's world. Six percent of the population is why we understand how this goes. What all I'm trying to say is that as a black man, particularly a black man in a prominent position that understands what's going on and he in, you know the forest from the trees recognize what's going on in the NBA with this whole analytics movement and he's analytic brother hiring one another, but it's never usually black people. By the way it's use me numbers are dwindling before our very in league. That's their eighty percent black. No people might want me to be quiet. Here's my response to them. I'M NOT GONNA BE QUIET GOTCHA Ways hell it make annoy. Camacho. Zubin just trying to get the break gotcha understand is gonNA bite my head off my head is certainly certainly right now still on my neck and shoulders steven obviously is going to weigh in again on I eight ten eastern on Espn I think we just got him warmed up. That could be a scary thought considering it that was just the warm up act but again, ten am eastern on Espn Stephen with more just your thoughts on that and just it's just i. mean the passionate there from him wow. Yeah. Well, look yesterday when he was on air saying white privilege. You thought because he didn't direct this comments directly, Kevin Durant and Kyrie Irving. You felt like it was Sean Marks. He was alluding to Sean marks giving that privilege to Steve Nash and I went on after that I said well, sexually Kevin Durant and Kyrie Irving net ultimately signed off in. Their decision as well. So him coming back on saying like I think you start to really venture in dangerous territory because he it almost is like it's almost becomes like black on black crime. We're GONNA fault you for not bringing on somebody who's black on board to be a head coach. and. That's dangerous territory for me to go down but I will say this because it. Frowning it's Go, ahead jump in. I'm just saying that. Look ultimately, could the nets have done more I? Hear Stephen Smith Point could the nets have done more to showcase or highlight some of the black people that are open for these jobs? Yes they could've. They could've. No. Real. mytalk. Your Mike Von. Yeah I can hear you. Can you not hear me? We got to town. So yeah, it ain't. Talent. Anyway. I kind of understand what Stephen A. is going with this because if you if you think about it in all industries and not just sports if nobody's in the room and I continue to say that in the room in the room, making the decisions that looked like you chances are you're not going to have about opportunity when I say look like you, White. Indian black whatever the case May. Be. People that are there help making those decisions sometimes don't think outside the box and when you have Katie and Kyrie who are two of the top players in the NBA with plenty of influencing plenty of power J. will. You Stephen saying that they could say, hey, why don't you take a look at Mark Jackson? We don't know that they didn't exactly. We don't know that they didn't, but it's not. You're saying that that's the problem because we don't know if that's assume that they didn't. Let's assume that they did say Mark Jackson Lou. Or whoever else is out there that that happens to be African American black they didn't do that. It's not a black on black crime is just a lack of what we would say responsibility on their part. But when you say that there aren't people in a room that look like them or sally. Kyrie's represented by rock nation. Jay Z. But I'm just saying there there are people surrounding but listen, but if you're not listening to rock nation. Name or telling you or saying to you that you should possibly be looking. I. Don't know that all we can do is go off what we know. That's all we can do and based on them not saying who the candidates work, what are we gonNa do we can assume basically right? I mean that's basically all you do because when you die dive into teams in the play offs tie lose it down in the bubble. Sat? Down and the bubble wheels down the bubble Guy Adrian Griffin with debt down the Buffalo Buffalo. So you don't really know they can't take them and bring them the interview you could talk over facetime or. In the bubble, the bubble. So a lot of coaches at our candidates are in the bubble. So you really don't have an opportunity to really have that conversation I'm hoping and I'm thinking that those two brothers certainly went to Sean and said, take a look at some of these dudes before they hired. Steve. Nash and if they did that then I'm I'm good with it but that's what I'm saying you have to dig a really deep hole. I don't know what's been done. Is. The first time we're addressing this and we're dealing with this national radio real-time right where assembling the plane after we've already jumped off the cliff but there's obviously this is going to be an ongoing story because why are you holding the Mike because I always hold them I when I talk like Lebron at the NBA Finals Dirk when they used to grab it off the only bike. Funniest thing we go I, know missy feel comfortable. I it's a very. Challenging in complex thing because I I know personally how much Kevin, durant and Kyrie Irving have done for the black community I've seen and what happens in canceled culture is when this becomes a big thing Stephen, a has a really big voice and I've been in a lot of arguments with my friends lately about what battles do you pick in? You know you can't be right to everybody if you're not gonNA be right to say black lives matter and I look I protested before I'm black lives matter I've been out but it's funny if you if you try to do anything that tries to say just about doing something that's right. Canceled culture jumps on very quick because everybody's. Taken sides right now and I understand that there are very sensitive moments that we're living. But what happens is when we do something like this, it cancels out everything that Kevin and Kyrie dump a black community because the potential and we don't know all the details of a mess mark of publicly putting out that other black candidates haven't been higher and that's a very delicate area to push a very delicate thing to get on and pushing that narrative because we don't know if that's true and also takes away from everything that they've done for the black community and that's a frustration Amman, we'll see I. Don't think I I. Don't think that you gotta worry about their culture with them. They're gonNA police what regardless. But I'm just saying very prominent voices that that's a that's a very deep and complex subject I I. Understand that Stephen A. Much, like myself would have liked to have seen. Some minority candidates given the factors only five NBA coach direct and we're fighting. With you and see that too I'm with you on that in. So it would near there in the room it feels like they didn't step up to say. I want to take a look at this guy I want to take a look at that guy because it's not out in the universe for us to see one thing I just wanted to mention for those five. Jay. So a lot of stuff Agai Monogamist, my friends K you've done a lot of stuff. So if I don't publicize everything that I've done that is good says it's not out in the public universe. Does that mean I'm not doing? It doesn't mean we're in the different climate right now everything is going on there looking for head coach to start I hear that in one of whom is one of them was talking about not playing in the playoffs because of everything that's going on and we should be in the bubble and then it just. It just feels like they didn't do with Stephen. They was talking about now as far as I know they did it or they didn't do it I don't know but it just feels that way. That's all fair enough. The one thing. I would say here you guys are talking because if it was me in, they came to me and they said, hey, we look to a head coach and general manager some and I had the power and the cachet to take a look at some guys and get their names out there and the face out there you got problem at. All Right We. Expand. ESPN I have no problem telling them that do this do you should take a look at him because I think he he's really really good. If it wasn't for Dave Roberts it we never get this job. I probably wouldn't be sitting in the seat who happens to be African Americans. Say Man he can do this job. Dave affects your senior vice president at ESPN one of the most highest ranking African American executives in the media just to qualify for the listeners that want to be aware one thing I would say for these guys that can't interview 'cause in the bubble like Tyler Lou like. Jason Jason. So I would say look the NBA the, most Progressive League of all, they have black lives matter on the court guys are allowed to wear preapproved statements on the back of their jerseys. If you went to the most progressive commissioner probably in the history of American sports, Adam Silver and said Adam, it would be a great opportunity to get some of these black guys as Stephen said into the pipeline. Let them interview I. Mean we're in the bubble if you're not playing, you're in your room twenty, one hours a. Day Let these guys interview now and I guarantee you Adam silver would say if that would get more black coaches in, we absolutely can lift that and let them do it the NBA The one league that would make that happen to get more African Americans and so take it a step further. The bowl still have a vacancy. The pelicans still have a vacant sixers sixers, but the Pacers still have a vacancy. So now that what happens is you transitioned argument that becomes on every block player shoulders, correct. Yeah. So Steven you're. Not Kevin Inquiry. To the teams. Zach Levine. xactly being in Chicago. I'm just saying I'm I'm this? Is this something wrong with that? Do there that got power there's nothing wrong with that. I, didn't say that was just want us to maintain that same he would have come. When it comes to those teams. So seven Ben, Simmons and Joel Embiid when it comes to this I on Zion. Brandon. Ingram. You had the out heat the same time where everybody I don't think GonNa have to worry about it now because of jitters now residents. Here, we better. We better make sure we interview a few people. and. One last thing before we move onto college football Heatherton, she's here to talk about Dabbagh interesting comments on what should happen you guys. Even if you're not interested key turned on multiple opportunities to do things, you guys have a lot of things going on in your life. The biggest thing is even if you guys are like, you know what I'll pass the you're already in the room. So then you can say J. that'll be too corny here you can give a little bit that's always a problem with me you. You could be. You can give a proverbial assist I. got too much going on. I got the boardroom I got NBA, I got. Yeah you can say that because you're already in the room absolutely basically say. Can I took time? Can I say something real quick though? A lot of people were in the room. A lot of people don't know how to activate the room Zubin. Active, he knows how to activate a room like. So as an athlete you naturally, if you're in a professional team, you're in the room K. Now whether you work the room whether you meet the right people and connect to the right people that's up to you. If you an activate through a lot of times, guys make so much money. They don't activate the room key sounds always been next level. That's why he has five or six owners numbers in his home. He's activated the room. It's also the next step of how you have to think though that's where the business side of it comes into for a lot of athletes young out these. This is always say in I got I got a Jewish agent right but I don't expect for for my Agent Orange detail me. Like snap crackle pop I need to get actively involved in a community doing these things doing this being part of the black lives could get out there and protest. I don't you know what I'm saying I don't expect for him to do that. But drome Stanley, who was my sports agent who was a lawyer? Black. I expect for him to make sure that I was doing things that was out in my community in those sort of things help revitalization in the neighborhood because I wouldn't expect that same here bill build up he was my agent in. United. Say You have to have people around you? That has you navigate those things I'm not saying that you got a higher specifically black people to do those things. You've got to have people that have the mindset in understanding that this bigger than getting a check as an athlete, this other things in the world that you could be doing. To help your community, but if they don't know. They don't know they're not gonNA tell you. They just not I listen I I. Wish I was straight talk wireless here but it isn't but you're not getting straight talk like this on any other show on the radio I mean I'm not. I'm not. Nowhere. Nowhere. Nowhere this is this is straight straight stuffed, and you're not hearing anywhere else in every weekday morning from six to ten. The Passion is unbridled and they're gonNA bring it maybe not as much as Stephen A. What other human being can possibly do that Kishan jails bright wait again, just because we're not eleven doesn't mean we're not bringing Stephen. Give me one man give me up the break me down. House Zubin I've always said Stephanie doesn't even need the Mike he should just walk. ME, one of those words though real quick. You get to get to give me one of those huge words to transition heather. Well, we're going to have heather at nine thirty. Okay. We're GONNA talk about Daboh, and he doesn't want to wait for the Big Ten and PAC twelve. He's like, Hey, if you don't want to get onboard right now, you ain't going to be in the playoff, which is the main reason. Many people want the big tend to start in October. If they start around Thanksgiving, they can't play enough to be in the playoff. So the pressure is going to be pushed up. He doesn't WANNA. Play at all, but the pressure is going to be pushed up with these leagues started. October, if they WANNA legit chance at the playoff, heather is the only person on earth whose title is College Football playoff reporters. She talks to everybody on the committee will get her thoughts at the bottom of the hour. It's time for the five point stance. The five point stance is brought to you by GEICO GEICO is now offering an extra fifteen percent. Credit on car motorcycle and RV policies visit, GEICO DOT COM for more. So I had heard of the three point stance, but not the five point stand. So essentially, we're going to run around and get some bold predictions and this one may be the boldest of all key. We will start with you your bold prediction on a team that a couple years ago one, no games, the Cleveland browns. The Cleveland Browns will lose to the Kansas. City chiefs in AFC championship game. Baker. Mayfield we'll have a comeback season. They'll beckham will make everybody in. New. York, mad because he's going to have an outstanding season of miles gear it'll break the sack record in the browns will lose to the Kansas City chiefs in the AFC championship game. So it really feels fair that the browns will do all that they'll have to go brown's heartbreak and lose right at the ad right at the end. That tells you what you need to know about the browns that would be an amazing comeback from obviously. Owen sixteen just a couple years ago than the fallback after the breakout year for Baker Jay you're up, you WANNA talk about another team in the state of Ohio in that same division I. Do I want to talk about the Bengals Enjo- I think he's going to shatter some NFL records when you think about Andrew lucked single season. Rookie record for passing yards or Baker Mayfield released two touchdowns or Jones as relates to I think you have four plus touchdowns in two games or three games a season. I. Think I think Joe Borough interesting him coming off Season College I. Think he's GonNa be primed to do some incredible things issue. Okay. So stated, fully Joe Borough for J, will break Baker Mayfield's passing touchdown record for rookies for purposes of context the Bengals have had a guy throw for twenty seven plus since Andy Dalton. Bolt. Zubin. Here's mine. The forty niners are GONNA get back to the Super Bowl. Now said that ain't really voltaire but I'll tell you why. I'm going to say this is bold. The last NFC team. To, lose the super bowl symbol here. The last NFC, team to lose the Super Bowl and come back and win at the next season. You. have to go back to super bowl five. The cowboys lost super bowl five came back in one the very next year. So on the surface, it seems a little bit but I think they can get back there and get it done after losing. We haven't seen it key in almost a half century, and now we are back to key with the team that has created a ton of negative headlines over the course of the off season. And, this would make a ton of this team's fans happy that negativities would be the Washington football team. They'll win the NFC ease now get this. As now as Zubin would say, no team has won the NFC east in back to back seasons since the eagles one early from all one to all four now get this there has been a different winner every year since Ole five Washington has not won the vision since twenty fifteen but I do. Good reasonable facsimile. Big Way. But now wrong with you. Could an accurate. And so good. Z.. Made. The last one comes from I know. Aaron Rodgers they are not each other's man right now that is for sure with what's going on hold the mic again key you're right why am I holding its Dirk? Mike Okay. Got Green Bay packers last year into the NFC championship game got blown out by the forty niners still at twelve win season with the first year head coach nobody expected to be there. So you think their prime for a fault. Yeah I think I. Think the Packers GonNa. Miss the playoffs thirteen and three. They had eight and one mark and one score games I feel like regression is inevitable with this team I. Think we're GONNA be talking about Air Rogers, I know we we love them when the greatest quarterbacks of all time Stephen a Smith said he was A. Bad man well, we're GONNA see a chance How bad of a man? He could be this year considering the margins of some of those games last year and have a very difficult. Well said, let me just put this on the record so it could be done properly. No team has won the NFC east and back to back seasons since the eagles went every year between one and four, there's been a different winner every year since Oh five that that sounded a lot better. What do you think you? Yes. No, that's good. Well. That's really bowl. You think really Washington is to have a chance to is just Riverboat. Well, well, look I like I like Riverboat Ron. Haskins. You just never know he might just all of a sudden click. A lot of times teams come out of nowhere and football unlike basketball basketball if it started season if it's the Lakers and the clippers. CLIPPERS MILWAUKEE MILWAUKEE TORONTO IF football. There's always several teams that come out of nowhere make the playoffs win the division. That's just the way it is. The NFC south is seen worst I. saw. I just remember I said, no team has won back to back says I think was over and over yes and that was the eagles. He said I give them credit confirmed it. That's true. Kisha. Your Voice Adam schefter second source keyshawn J. Zubin brought to you by draft kings, download the draftkings, APP, and use code. K Jay Z to get a free shot at millions of dollars up for grabs this week with your first deposit minimum five dollar deposit required eligibility restrictions apply see draftkings dot com for details on the way Davos fun in the. Morning, man, no doubt about it on the way dabble wants to have fun in the College Football Playoff, but it won't be any fund for the big ten in the pack twelve because he said I ain't waiting for you guys at all our College Football playoff insider on what that all means next from one of the most powerful voices in the sport. Volvo helps protect what matters most your family. The Volvo XC NINETY SUV offers a range of advanced safety features like an available built in booster seat for your kids safety and comfort in a blind spot information system that has your back and alert you to cars in your blind spot. Wherever you go summer safely explore exclusive offers on the xc ninety during the Volvo summer safely savings event visit Volvo cars, dot com slash us to learn more. When you need your bank capital, one is right in the palm of your hand. See can check your balance deposit checks, pay bills, and transfer money from your phone with top rated APP, and when you're done banking, put it back in your pocket, a banking experience built around you and your life. This is banking reimagined get started online anytime. What's in your Wallet Capital One and a member FDIC. We've been spending most of the hour talking about the NBA but college football had a game last night. They had a game last Saturday. They'll have some games coming up over this weekend and it's great to welcome in our ESPN. College football reporter had their ditch in the Oil Performance Line. Okay. Heather first things. First, there's plenty to get to and I just want to start with Dabo. Sweeney said essentially the the SEC in the big twelve are ready to go and he's not gonNA. Wait for the Big Ten and the PAC twelve eventually start their season if they want to be involved in the playoff, take us inside what's going on there. You are a playoff reporter and Dabbagh was one of the biggest names in the sport. Wow I will tell you from the playoffs perspective CFP executive director. Bill. Hancock has told me repeatedly from the onset of the coronavirus pandemic that they are planning their playoff. The way they always do they're going to be prepared to host the semi-final bowls this year and the national championship on January. Eleventh in Miami Florida, and if by some chance the big twelve, the SEC and the ACC cannot play and everyone gets moved back. Then I think at that point, the playoff would have to reconsider okay. What do we do? Now. But as far as they are concerned billion caucus certainly not dealing in any hypothetical situations but he has told me that they will be ready for whatever scenario comes down. But right now, the scenario is these leagues that are playing right now are the ones that are going to have a chance for the. CFP. Neither Bill Hancock nor Bob Bos be the big twelve commissioner said they envision a separate national championship for anyone who's not playing right now? What are the details in the PAC twelve deal on daily Cova testing? This is a very interesting and exciting news point for the PAC twelve conference, it was announced yesterday that they are going to have rapid tests available the actual testing. Equipment, on each campus by the end of this month, and that's so important because it could potentially fast forward the League's timetable for getting back on the Field Pacho Commissioner Larry Scott had a press conference yesterday with several doctors and they talked about how their decision to return. We'll still be driven by data and. But at the same time, being able to test the student athletes for high contact high risk sports. At a whim and immediately get these results. He called it a game changer. It's going to significantly help with contact tracing I mean think about it guys right in the PAC twelve or the big twelve sec and ACC are testing three times a week if you have the ability to test your quarterback right before the game. And he test positive then you have to you have to quarantine everyone he's been around with. So you have to you have to quarantine probably all of your quarterbacks, right if you have these tests, these rapid tests and your quarterback test positive, you can go test your second-string, your third string if they if they test negative boom, you got somebody who can throw the ball and Saturday right? So it is an entirely different situation. But as Larry pointed out, they still have six teams four in the state of California to in the state of Oregon, that if they wanNA play tomorrow could not because the pandemic and those restrictions in terms of government regulations would prevent them from doing that. They're speaking of science and data whistle latest on Myocarditis. Oh. Look I can't even get doctors to tell me a straight answer on that right now, and that is the truth There are certainly still fears about it I think they are absolutely legitimate concerns, but there are also conflicting thoughts about it from medical experts, and one of the things that the big ten has to do before it gets back on the field is those athletic directors and the. Medical experts in that conference have to present a plan to their university and presidents and chancellors that allay those fears that means they either have to show look myocarditis was completely overblown or they have to say this is what we can do to mitigate the risks of it and to promise you that student athletes will be taken care of and this won't be a problem so they have yet. To present a model to the big ten commissioner or excuse me presidents and chancellors. But if they are going to sign off and anything going to change in that league, that is one of the fears that has to be a late and not league could be an all time record I think this is the first recorded interview on College Football with the Name Kevin Warren wasn't mentioned we should. Give ourselves a pat on the back. That's unbelievable. Story headed will wait to see what happens with him and ten. As you said, Larry Scott, the PAC twelve who was sort of been in lockstep with Kevin Worn and the big ten their hands are tied. Because half those schools are in those two states not to mention Arizona hotspot of its own had the. Thank you so much. Thank you, guys. So essentially, she essentially said one of the biggest issues that's out there myocarditis. There's been some conflicting information as well on it. They don't know enough about it and as a result key, you've always been on the train of we shouldn't play if you're basically extracting from the college football world and essentially just say to the random dude walks up to us and says, listen some of these players not as many as expected but some players, the old cliche one is too many has a heart problem due to a novel coronavirus that we totally don't really understand at this point. How about just taking the cautious approach and that's essentially what a lot of fans don't want. They want the opposite of that. Let's go out there. Because the first of all, it's not them. That's out. There is other bodies and other people for entertainment. Yeah for our entertainment and so. I just have always been against playing until they resolve. In find out what? Truly, it is. Term, not not necessarily short term but long term in in in. You just don't want. These young men and women to contract the virus and look up five years from now and have some issues you just have to play football. That's just me. Getting paid. That's I been with you on those arguments about not being paid and not there for entertainment but I pose to you both this question to everybody else out there if we're shutting down college football then shut down schools. Shut down schools. That's a legitimate thing. If we're if we're having, you can't just say athletes are worried about myocarditis and we don't know what the researchers and I I hear that I understand that resonates with me with my daughter and my family my mom would resonate with me drastically. You can't have kids on campus either though no I don't think I don't think kids should go to school so. You could take school online. You don't have to pay to take school online. No. I. Understand. Are you know public schools when you're talking about high schools in elementary and things nature some public schools have online courses in computers especially like in Los Angeles they they've raised enough money to purchase computers for to stay at home. So I guess that's my point and maybe it's pointed towards the PAC twelve and the big ten. Then if you're not playing sports while you're finding out all this evidence. Them every college have all their kids do parallel learning absolutely. But but that's not the case right now I don't know why that's not the case. So I'm just saying it seems a little bit hypocritical. You're saying we're not going to play sports but yet in some schools, we're going to have kids on campus thousands and thousands and thousands of kids right we are going. To school and they're going to be at the same rate of catching myocarditis or other things that the athletes are here's it's really kinda messed up. I. Agree with you and here's the other point that a lot of people don't talk about with regards to this. It basically took a crisis that has killed almost two hundred thousand Americans in this country to get us what? We need when we need it. For example, for people that live in rural areas that participant high school football eight-man, six man you live in a rural area and you don't have high speed Internet. So you can't log on, you can't do work the way other students do suddenly school shut down. Now we have to go to remote learning the only way you can connect. is at your house but guess what we've been screaming for five years we don't have high speed Internet. We don't have fiber you need to help us quiet crickets nothing. Then when we get to a point where the country is backed into a corner incredibly okay. Now now you can have what you needed all along that to me has always been a big problem as well. It's so unfortunate I mean look at we're finally having the conversation about athlete compensation. In his finally it feels like it's being forced lost a little bit of momentum since we've been going through this with we are united and obviously with the pandemic, but it seems forced to have a lot of conversations that people who are very uncomfortable didn't want to have those conversations before fair enough. We've got some great conversations. This morning keyshawn jail Zubin were presented by progressive insurance on the way he's Lakers tonight. James Harden and the Beard Lakers in fill in the blank. Kicking the Lakers, matter how many games we'll get that in a second Ever. 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You need forty five bucks a month get through the unlimited plan twenty, five gigs of high speed data than two G. for up to fifty percent less than the big carriers only at Walmart savings may vary see terms and conditions at straighttalk dot COM Lakers rockets nine pm eastern tonight on ESPN winner goes to the Western Conference finals there. have been plenty of things said about, James Harden. But Lebron James wanted to mention one thing that often isn't yeah. You could talk about the free throws the step back the leg kick all that stuff with harden. One thing a lot of people don't give them credit for is how often he's out there you can't make the club in the tub you gotTa have the durability and Lebron marvels at the beards ability to do just that. What people. Get Lost in translation with James is how available he is to his teammates night in and night out made if you look at how many games he plays per year and how many minutes? He plays throughout the course of his career. Much always been available. He's always been a uniform and he's been doing this at a high level for a lot of years i. think that's what kind of get lost in translation because everybody Kinda looks at euro step in step back threes. But when you available to your team ace that that that's a gigantic to any any sport or any craft or anything that you're doing a life available to someone they know they can always count. I think that's Pretty much one of the best things that that people don't recognize. Great underrated pointy. Yeah. No you gotTA. You GotTa be available at all times and so the BRA recognizes that obviously but that's not the key. The key is for the Lakers that put a plan together to stop them threes and not play slow the game down now get caught up in fastball with Westbrook in Hardin that happened out west and we got torched westbrook was cooking J. will I mean? He was just he came home and? It was showing out I. Think though if they get a d. on the blocks mixing a Little Dwight Howard here near in convert some of those twos get to the line because you got six, seven, six, five guys trying to Gore post players. That's when the Lakers will be at their best just to be additive to what Lebron said James Harden's been League for eleven years the most amount of games he's missed him one single seasons fourteen. Wow. That's you know and that probably was like at the beginning of his career. He's actually in two, thousand, nineteen, thousand and twenty played sixty eight games biography. That's not even. Games gotTA. Take that out because this year has been an anomaly correct. So if that's the case, the most amount of games he's missed is ten in that came in two, thousand, seventeen, two, thousand, eighteen, and three hands J. three times. He's played eighty games, three guys I give them so much. I never thought about that as relates to James Harden I you know look we we're GonNa talk about the match up obviously when we come back after Labor Day weekend But that durability is something that's really important and here's where they have to make their mark in this game. Against the Lakers Lakers obviously have a huge advantage with their size kita you guys can dominate the pink that's where Lebron. Dwight Vail Arrows going to try to punish them in the paint. They have to be able to boss Green. It's going to ball screen Galore heaven. Office are going to run how ring Bogle chooses to guard. The ball screen will be indicative of how this series plays out in. Are you keeping that big behind back? Are you pressing upper double team and again the ball? How James Heart his hands Russell Westbrook's hands. You can get the ball, their hands and four other people like Austin Rivers Robert Covington Erik, Gordon to. Then I think the Lakers will be okay but if they don't. We'll be okay. We find here's the thing. It's just getting there. I mean we feel like I said yesterday I think it was like we have not seen James Harden and Russell Westbrook hot at the same time this year we haven't seen it everybody's been waiting on edge of their seat to see it. The question is, could we potentially see it against the Lakers? Lakers in to McMahon rockets reported if ever GonNa do it might as well do it now Lakers in to close five five games I'm not even GonNa assume that you think the inside of guarantee what do you think the Lakers and five or six? Yeah. Five Games and then grilled. Bureau could be, but then what happens to the row with? Dantonio contract is up he's still got harden and Westbrook there with a another appearance not getting to the conference finals well, I don't think. I. Think Everybody knows you know he didn't Dantonio extension on his deal right so between him and the owner Daryl Morey I mean it kind of seems like he's on his way out you wonder what will happen to Daryl Morey as well the GM, our president but there are a lot of jobs up I think Daryl Morey will be fine but yeah, if they lose, you're going to start talking about. Does Mike Tony Go. He knows anywhere Indiana's Indiana potentially, and also you start talking about James Harden. Again, and then Russell Westbrook starts being lumped in with James Harden he's well, you might as well start talking about it on. Tuesday 'cause Lakers getting ready to you know in five so you might as well start talking. Okay. We'll talk about it onto. tweeting it out. Then say in five. How much trouble at the bucks in because we're GONNA see that series resume as well. They were going home down to or something like that. Then I would feel good about it. But when you get in a situation J. wilco speak to this from basketball standpoint when you down to low and all the the air's gone now now it's like you tense up, you can't afford to go down three Oh because then it's really over. A lot of teams never come back from going down three Oh nobody had just don't think that the bucks have enough and I think there's something special going on in Miami right now I gotTa. Tell you I mean the guy who leaves Minnesota but look what he did for Minnesota. Our I was the transitions again goes affiliate look where he have philly in that position, and now he's in Miami and just seems like it's Jimmy Butler time I don't know if it's going to get past. Eastern Conference finals but. It sure as hell looks like they're on their way past the bulky bucks. Now he's also become going. This is what we do in radio in the end, right? You Go. It's Labor Day weekend. 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MLB Trade Deadline

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21:46 min | 1 year ago

MLB Trade Deadline

"Pardon the interruption but I'm Mike Globe on Tony New York man so the new rector for vertical jump as sixty four inches Tony Kornheiser kornheiser sixty four inches. That's Bob Costas. You Really WanNa do that. I mean do you really want to anger one of our favorite people in this industry. Come on this show cast our friend you WANNA do that. We're not going to anger him. He's going to be happy and by the way what is causing his favorite sport is baseball warm and today's show is dominant. They do that well boys and girls in today's episode. The Indians Straight Trevor Bauer Michael Thomas gets paid and cliff Kingsbury doesn't look like how he looks in a video game but we begin today with a blockbuster right at the deadline the Houston Astros Astros as they did two years ago landed a big fish pitcher they got Zack grinky from Arizona in return for four prospects will von crankiest ten one in four with a two eight seventy R._A.. He's a saw young winner. He's Justin verlander two years later. Does this make the Astros the team to beat. Yes yes yes pitching starting pitching great starting pitching yes. The Astros aren't even playing the division anymore which they've essentially he put away. They're looking around the rest of the American league in play in the Yankees and the songs and they're playing whoever thinks they're contingent Minnesota in the central. That's who they're. They're playing for the postseason right now. Brilliant this gutsy people can talk about what this by the way all the people talking about Launch Angle Launch Angle this in October launch angle at the top of the rotation ver- Lander and Grinky and Co.. Are you kidding me. This is a a great move by Houston Standing Ovation. It's not just starting pitching the nats have three great starting pitchers if they're healthy insurance Strasbourg and Corman but they don't have any relief pitchers used it has hitting. Houston has a great top of the rotation. WHENVER lander went there a couple years ago? I don't know that he lost any games at all for the rest of the season. Ilk including the player right. This has the exact same field. I agree with you to this extent. This is aimed at the Yankees. This this is aimed at the dodgers. I mean you look now at Houston and and you look at the Yankees who have trouble with their starting pitching for all the hitting they have job. I don't know that there's enough hitting to be coal verlinden and grinky now October so pitching starting pitching top big nation. I don't take that Bait Bet every time over launch angle and the dodgers if we give that far we're talking about world series play Tony. We're talking about a team to can't stop anybody from scoring scoring well. The the dodgers have defensive troubles. They do starting pitching dresses that they do what the dodgers have starting pitching and the dodgers which is how power from both sides of the play a lot of earned runs to that would be fun to watch it would be moved now to last night's brawl between division rival. Cincinnati and Pittsburgh `expert it was one of those chippy games with players on both teams getting thrown out and hit Cincinnati pitcher Amir Garrett felt like he'd had enough in the ninth inning and charge the entire hire pilots dugout by himself precipitating donnybrook afterwards Garrett took responsibility and said quote. I was angry. It was about protecting teammates. I'm going going to accept any punishment that I get as a man I take on that responsibility and I apologize to my actions on we'll about what kind of punishment is Garrett deserve. I don't know he'll get something. He'll get a lot of games the pirates thugs. They played like thugs all year. I wanted to come to this coming out of the All star break. They swept them so it looked like they got their retribution that way the pirates and listen to me. I'm I know this division. Yeah I watch almost every game in the pirates. Clinton hurdles team has behaved. They'd like thugs. They thought people all the time and there's two ways to deal with this either you do with this. Guy Garrett did last night and you say you know what I got this or Major League Baseball Joe Torry Rob Manfred do something don't hide under the death. which is what you guys are doing now now? Stop Clint Hurdle and the pirates from being thugs. Stop it so I I know that this goes back all season and I know these. These teams do this all the time. I'm going to first address the specific question of Garrett. He's got to get at least ten games. That was a warlike act. You may think it's brain but but it was a warlike act. I'd also like to acknowledge for example the manager Cincinnati David Bill. Do I haven't been elected. He rolled back out a hill now. He's thrown out again yesterday his eighth throw out of the year which is a lot for rookie manager then he finds his way back into the brawl. This is not pork. Chop Hill. Whoa you may be right. That Pittsburgh is responsible. They are Cincinnati down six points for this. He said I'll take my person looks. All must step in their six games mice six games. Do you think that the brewers cubs reds and cardinals hate. The Pittsburgh Pirates and they brought it on themselves okay. If every team goes at them like this then it'll stop but Garrett manse ragging I enjoyed Torriero hands or more now ten or more. Mike can't take it you can't. I don't care what he gets can't do about that. The problem here is the a forgery of the Pittsburgh Pirates Plain and simple little did Mr Puig no when he was battling on behalf of the reds that he'd be moving up the state to Northeast Ohio and the trade to the Cleveland Indians Trevor Bauer goes to Cincinnati in that exchange but the Indians also wind up with friend meal raise who has a surprising twenty twenty seven home runs Tony and get the tag team with tweet in the Cleveland outfield so who is going to work out best for town I well there was a third team in the Trade San Diego Padres as but will leave them alone because it's a deferred thing because it's prospect okay. I was a little bit surprised that Cincinnati took Dour. I mean now. I don't have much right now. He's a fine pitcher though he has been disliked by teammates in the past you know he's got a good arm as we saw because was he threw it into the Centerfield stands which is why he got traded. I like what the untraded anyway. I like what the unions have done. They walked into today with an outfield produced. Only forty four home runs in these two guys in Puigo Andreas. They just got forty nine. More home runs now i. I'm a little bit concern. Queen gets traded a bunch. This is the third team now. I wonder if there's something more there but he sure can hit it looks to me like the Indians have positioned themselves for something big in the playoffs. So you know there's something else I think I like about this deal which is not going to show show up in their analytics. The Indians might have needed somebody who can battle we just what are we doing this story putting value tough fake tough guy. Hey Gordon deal tough. Go Big Okay so so yes you need the home runs there might also been a feeling on behalf of the Cleveland Cleveland Front Office and I don't know the staff that they needed that personality and injection of energy and I will battle you. I will take take you on that might lead to an objection to live with some stuff with on that end as well but I think the Indians here. I like what they think. The Front Office is a Cleveland also said to Mr Bowers guys nuts and we're getting them out of here. We hit Amati. We can't have this Michael. Thomas is no longer holding out well. That's not completely to he's holding out his hands to catch the money. The New Orleans saints made their prime wide receiver the most highly paid wide receiver in football. They gave them ninety six million dollars over the next five years. The sixty one million dollars guaranteed we'll Thomas is the highest paid receiver now. Should we see him as the best receiver Gol No. I don't care doesn't matter. He needs to be the best receiver that drew brees has available every Sunday. That's what he needs to be doesn't matter where he ranks in the League doesn't matter how many for him sort of yards words per reception average yards that's not the deal the one hundred and twenty five or whatever number of balls he caught last year Tony it tells you drew brees likes this this Saturday in a whole lot of circumstances his dependability his reliability. I mean just being out there and so his availability so it doesn't matter whether he's he's the best in the league the New Orleans saints no they need him in that lineup on that field. Yeah I mean you list Antonio Brown. You List Odell Beckham Junior you list Julio Jones Ulysses Michael Thomas Michael. Thomas has two things going for him that matter drew brees is one of those things and Sean Payton. Designing plays get matters 'cause he's an offensive genius. I believe Sean Payton so on this squad they need him. What is curious to me Ezekiel Elliott who's been just as great for his team? Zeki Elliott is trying line and make fifteen million dollars a year and guys get like twenty million dollars a year which shows you the imbalance between wide receiver running back audie. Jerry Jones is still willing to roll the dice. GotTa Have Scott Mike Scott to have. I think so kind of having so what do I I think we're going to be constantly hijacked. This fall by Kingsbury seems to find his way into the discussion here every day. Often for the silliest of reasons today reports are the kings various upset with how he looks in the Madden Twenty video game quote. I had seen a bunch of guys kinda getting in their feelings about their ratings and then somebody sent me a picture drew what I look like on there. I WANNA get adjusted on the looks rating close quote Saudi is Kingsbury GonNa have a twinkle in his eye when he does these things or or do we have to take him seriously so the rest of that quotas. I looked like something out of the walking dead which I thought was pretty funny when I first saw the pitcher in the madden game. I thought it was real. They make that stuff look real anyway. Let me get to my point about Kingsbury. Kingsbury is the first millennial coach. I think this is a brilliant the thing that he is what Obama man out in L._A.. With the Rams I like to use oh no. It's identifying in a different way. This is what I mean by. This kingsbury aligns himself with players when he talks about madman ratings which I don't think Sean mcvay does he says look at me. I'm one of you when he Are you on the spot to go with their cell phones players coach. He says I'm one of you said this yesterday Kyle Murray and Cliff Kingsbury or bright shiny ninety objects this year and a lot of people wanna see him and I suspect a lot of people may WanNa see one or both of them failed but we're going to be talking about Kingsbury pretty much all season. Listen I think well or that into the Carlos. Go Two and five and then we'll stop okay but I think so. I think my inclination is to think wow this disguise breath of fresh air in a profession pro football coaches have just they've all followed Bill Billiton's lead and they're all just boring as hell with the <unk> exception here or there. I hope he's one of them. I hope we are talking about him and I hope there's a twinkle in his eye and he's not taking themselves Siri like he felt up he was not. It's just a college pros losing coach. Let's take a break but coming up we will dive into the baseball trade deadline with Tim Kirch in and later later as Carmelo. Anthony earned a farewell tour from the N._B._A.. That's that cranky thing big deal yeah yeah astros baby big. Let's consider the secret life of the innermost nesting door living most of her life in the dark inside the other nesting dolls. He has plenty of time to think if we could sadly she has no brain however when in most nesting doll here's the Geiko not only saves people money but also has been providing great service for over seventy five years. She thinks it's obvious you should switch because yes switching to gyco is a no brainer pretty in a most nesting Dolan. A lot in life is ball's trade deadline passed late this afternoon in here to help us figure out what went down is our great friend E._S._P._N.. Baseball analyst Tim Kirch and let's start with this the astros they land that grinky. How significant addition is that it was huge that separates rates the astros from any team in the American league clearly now the Astros in a short series can throw just Berliner Garrett Kohl Zach Ricky as their third starter that is so much better than anything that the Yankees have in their rotation and that's their main competitor right now now it also puts them right there on par with the dodgers top of their rotation? Should it end up in the world series. The Astros gave up an awful lot but not author top to prospects and they took on an enormous amount of money was that cranky but they are going forward and it is so refreshing today to see a major elite team say all right. We're giving up a lot but we're trying to win. Now Tim you mentioned the Yankees this stop with them for a second Yankees these and other teams that we expected more activity from what happened that they were not active well. The asking price in all cases was so high. Those teams said we're not GONNA do that. The Red Sox had to get a closer but the asking price for Edwin D as was ridiculous so the Red Sox said were. We're not GONNA do that. The Yankees had to add a starting pitcher but a couple of the really big ones Bumgarner syndergaard went off the market and they were left with a fourth worth starter our third starter say Ravi Ray and the asking price for him was ridiculous. The dodgers had to get a closer but Felipe Vasquez the Oh really good closer for the pirates. The pirates were asking for so much. The dodgers said we're not GONNA do this. These are our new. G._M.'s fell as they are going to sit there and wait in the sabermetrics say this is what that guy is worth and they are not budging from that and that's why those teams didn't do anything so going into free. Ah into the trade deadline the two big names the pitchers who are going to be traded Madison Bumgarner was going to be traded from the giants. Noah syndergaard was going to be traded from the mets that what did not happen what went on with that well miraculously. The giants have gone from a really bad team to a team that went eighteen and six July and then unbelievably unbelievably. They are back in the pennant race and their G._M.. Farhan Zaidi looked at their team and said how am I gonNA trade my best player Madison Bumgarner in in the final two months of Bruce Bo Cheese Hall of fame career in the end. He said I'm not GONNA do that. I'M GONNA keep it and I'm going to try to make the playoffs. It probably wasn't the smartest move but I understood what he was doing. And then of course there the mets who told everyone from the beginning. We're trying to win now. If they traded syndergaard they would not be trying to win this year which they're not going to do or next year so these were two teams in really difficult spots saying we have to win now so they they kept their best pitchers. We don't have to host Tony Downtown because the nationals got three relievers and also the braves get Shane Green from the Tigers so besides grinky. What are you see right? Now is being the most impactful deal of the deadline. Well Ashamed Green was today in the braves didn't just add him. They added to other relief pitchers Mark Melanson being one of them. They really did a nice job. The Braves Made themselves. I think the division champions today with what they did the nationals dwell too. I think the nationals are GonNa make the playoffs especially with what they did today today. But Atlanta made three really nice moves in the last two days Shane Green being the best of the three the nationalist can add three relievers and dropped nine nine relievers. It's okay with me. We will get you out of here on this. What teams now with the reset? What teams now do you like down the stretch well? I hate it to say this because this is baseball what separates base role from basketball and football is you never know who's going to win but I think we just got a rematch of the dodgers against the Astros does in the world series with what Houston did today unless the nationals get really hot and throw those three great starters against the dodgers in the postseason. I don't see see anybody beating the dodgers and I don't see anybody at this moment beating the astros so that's what the trade deadline did especially with those teams is it made need the pennant winners clearer to a lot more people. Thank you so much tim appreciate it. Thank you thank you guys. Let's take one last break but still to come. What can we read into Nick? Foles is training camp performance so far and team U._S._A.. Will have even more competition for the next World Cup rolls around so <music>. Are you disappointed in the cops. No no the cubs have to play. I mean he's making change the chairs on the deck if they want they got the talent yeah play happy time people have thirty first birthday H._A.. Green the bengals seven time pro bowl wide receiver is now expected to miss some regular season games because of an ankle injury sustained on the practice field at the University of Dayton over the weekend green tore ligaments in his left ankle. The number of Bengals said that the Dayton field was inadequate but then is probably small solace to green now Tony I mean the bengals have had this following their own practice field for a while even have a new one now just hate to hear that Happy Anniversary Kevin Garnett on this day twelve years ago you were traded from the T. Wolves to the Celtics for five players in two first round picks. How did this trade worked out well? The Celtics won a championship with going ahead and Paul Pierce and Ray Allen and the timber wolves have been in the playoffs exactly one time one exactly one game so if you are looking for the definition of a one sided trade this would be it and Tony before kindergarten haven't garland left Minnesota he had been in a big conference final series against I think it was the Lakers and it seemed like you know the fortunes changed so oh dramatically for the T. Wolves and the Celtic with back to be in the Celtics a melancholy trails to Nick Bonner Conti the hall of fame Linebacker for the great undefeated Miami Dolphins Team One thousand nine hundred seventy two died today at the age of seventy eight Bona Conti was a stalwart on the no name defense that included Manny Fernandez and Jake Scott Connie went on to become a television personality a lawyer in an agent but was probably most known for the foundation he helped establish for his paralyzed son. Mark and countless was others helping them and just over a long period of time Mike Tony and sadly I was sitting next to nick when he was watching another son play at the University University of Maryland. I think nine hundred eighty five I think it was a Duke Maryland game and he got the call from his about his son Mark being paralyzed playing for the citadel and I was sitting next to him and I just it's heartbreaking things I've ever seen a part of in been there for and they just say important man. Hey An to the industry and history of football and his family for a lot of dickey. Oh there's no question the amount of money raised in the amount of people say who were in this. Yes certain terrible. Circumstance is directly attributable to Nick Bond Wauconda roic yeah absolutely yeah we are running out of show when we go to the big finish trainer told the breakfast club that Carmelo quote once a farewell season unquote like Dwayne Wade had. Do you think he will get that Tony first steps first things first. I I just want to play this season. I WanNa play some situation where he can be productive. That would be great. Nick foles has not thrown an interception who was first five days of training camp. Be Significant for some reason we'll. They paid this guy a lot of money. He's got a super bowl ring if he if he plays well off the bat and everybody seeing we've got the no with meaningful tiger has to play in the first two events of the Fedex playoffs. Is that a big deal. Yes don't we remember how turned out for Tiger last year Tony Down in Atlanta. I mean who wouldn't want to see a on quarterback. Women's World Cup League Spans from twenty four to thirty two eighteen next time around. We've known that a good call. The ratings were great. It's a television show. People want to see it. Yes sure why wouldn't you do it last one Joey Chestnut report the four hundred thirteen chicken wings in twelve hours. Is that significant not everything is not a

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Tiger Down

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21:53 min | 5 months ago

Tiger Down

"ESPN radio on Sirius Xm is where you need to be if you live and breathe college football, we're talking live games, the latest rankings conference and team news analysis from experts like Mark Packer Greg mcelroy, and EJ Manuel all leading up to championship specials and more. Take Sirius Xm with you in always have the latest college football info you need listen right now on the SIRIUSXM APP or online at Siriusxm Dot com slash listen espn you. Pardon the interruption but I'm Global Tony we're GONNA have a blue moon on Halloween night for the first time since nineteen forty four. I'm Tony Kornheiser Blue Moon. saw me standing alone but you name was nick foles. So why was well overthrown? What is it you in poetry showoff your fancy English degree. You know I thought that was nice. Actually I thought that was funny I. Have Blue Moon I know what I think of when I hit blue moon and I know when you think of when you hear blue I think of the song by the Marcel who I'm talking about. Loon ODEM. Blue Moon Odom now what I think of the song by. Oldham. Yeah. Yeah. I do. Honestly we'll PTI boys and girls. Today's episode tigers hire a J. Hinch Aaron Rodgers backs Mike, Zimmer and Mike the. Joins the nets but we begin today with the revelation that Clemson quarterback Trevor Lawrence the number one pick in next year's NFL. Draft has tested positive for corona virus. He will definitely Miss Tomorrow's game against Boston, college and may well miss next Saturday's premier. ACC, game against number four notre. Dame. We'll. What was your reaction when you heard this Tony I think the same reaction whenever I hear anybody has it a neighbor of family member? and associate a ball player I. Don't know maybe when I do know is I hope this person is okay i. hope this person can return to normal health as soon as possible. I hope to symptoms are none to mild and he says his symptoms have been mild and so so good and I I don't get to the football part of it or the baseball part of the basketball of a little bit later and so he just. He can't play against Boston College I'm not GonNa sit and go over the scenarios like a lot of people on what happens if Clemson does this or what happens if you can't pick we'll see we'll see we'll find out soon enough after this ten days out if you test negative the appropriate number of times if he can play against Notre Dame. Yeah I had a similar reaction I felt sad i. saw it on the crawl early in the morning I didn't know about it before and Whoa and my immediate reaction was to feel badly I mean he's always the quarterback on the number one team in the country. He's very visible. He was out there early on saying we WANNA play this season. So I thought about that and I also I I make the assumption as you probably do as well that is young and strong and he'll be okay. But two, hundred, twenty, thousand Americans have died from this virus already I've spent the last seven months in my attic running away from this virus. So you never know we still don't know how to get rid of this thing I did then rather quickly they'll go to the football I did honestly I felt that. They would be Boston College without him because Clemson's far superior team I wondered about Notre Dame if he can't play that game because Notre. Dame it's real good and then I thought well, even if they were to lose to Notre Dame if that's their won loss and they didn't have trevor. Lawrence, they could still get in the playoffs but maybe Notre Dame would get in the playoffs which would eliminate a second sec might thoughts did go to that I can see? None of that because every year we do this and every year everybody loses the game except like one team people lose a game if Notre Dame runs the table when the last time notre dame ran random table and they don't do it. So so I heard this this morning a lot of for my dear friend Greenie who I love and I to call Greenie I should have just say stop we don't know what Notre Dame's GonNa do we don't know what Clemson's going to do we don't know what I. Beat Notre Dame without him I really do Clemson is a superior team is the superior program right now and maybe get back to that level but they're not there. Now I don't know what's going to happen and. I WanNa Watch the Boston College game I'm GonNa. Now have an interest in the boss and that's why wouldn't have otherwise I'm watch that we'll see whether we need to go down this road have all these scenarios? Well, I, mean that's you know that is the logical way to go with a football player and a football team in the ACC you have to sit out ten days in the big ten you sit out twenty one and I'm willing to bet the big ten is GonNa. Not. They don't WanNa have Wisconsin Oughta this they'll be knocking that number down. Tony. Aj hinch moving to baseball is back in baseball the manager who oversaw the Astros during your cheating scandal and world series run has signed on to manage the Detroit Tigers just days after he finished serving his season long suspension for said cheating. Hinch had been linked to the white sox before they hired Tony Larussa and a tigers team official told the athletic quote the White Sox big favor close quote. What is higher till you about both Hinch and Titus? Well I'll take the Tigers I. it says that the Tigers got incredibly lucky that they got a great manager and they stink as a team. I'm going to go to a couple of numbers. Their last three full seasons Mike Sixty four and ninety, eight, sixty, four, and ninety, eight, forty, seven and one fourteen this year they were on pace for another sixty four I'll tell you this a year and a half ago AJ wouldn't even taken her phone call what it says about Aj hinch is a little bit different. I had mark fine sand on the podcast today from MLB DOT com and he said hinges walking into a bad baseball situation but we both talked we thought maybe he wanted to jump back in as quickly as possible maybe he felt if He would not yeah he would not be able to get back. And You know that's those are my thoughts. So what he's not quite a candidate, he wants with van or once was he's not quite the candidate yet. He's got to sort of rehabilitate himself if you will. Get back in with a job where if you think Management. Upper level management the people above you are willing to go about rebuilding the franchise in the West. The White Sox have. Let's let's let's let's move over for a second. So I don't know that you could find more opposite candidates then hinch and the Russa. And I certainly I root against the Detroit Tigers. Arrival of Detroit and Chicago regardless of the team romantic. What so now I can enthusiastically root against hinch who as far as I'm concerned has been accurately brandon a cheater don't Tony. I'm not even this that much into this particular scandal I'm not as outraged as many about baseball in the Astros is cheating but this is interesting with and his rehabilitation and he and Tony Larussa are going to be looked at they can't be looked at white the same context 'cause Larussa has got a team, but Larussa is going to have his own challenge be very different than hinges for the next couple of seasons while Detroit tries to stock that franchise with talent. So I would say this that Chicago is much more of a destination. Now Than Detroit is it's not a destination. That's right. He wanted back in and it made me think of Alex Cora and what would happen in Boston because that job is vacant right now in Fi were Boston I think I would hire quarterback Rebecca. A lot of his coaches are still there he served his time. I mean he he did what he was supposed to do. He won a world series for you can bring him back but somebody's going to have to explain to him what happened. Because, he says, what's Going to happen just raider right into the lineup every day only they're not there. He's in blue that other blue in advance of Sunday's Green Bay. Minnesota game, Aaron, Rodgers, a singing. The praises of my Zimmer Zimmer is the coach of the one in five Vikings and some people will on some people have said he should be fired Rogers says, this is crazy talk Rogers says and I quote he's a phenomenal coach to see him mentioned to be on the hot seat is absolutely crazy. I think he's one of the best coaches in the league and has been for a long time unquote. We'll bond has rag GIS changed your mind know rogers has a pigeon Rogers has guy. A rival. The Rogers has toe pigeons, Air Rogers the smartest guy out there people who have spent. They even underestimated Aaron Rodgers in Green Bay until he told them to shut up and relax rogers has the vikings and Rogers has the bears they are supposed to be rivals. They are pigeons of is, and the lions aren't even on the radar. So He's a division where he's the king and he can say, well, let's keep this guy route because I can whip his butt twice a year I love Aaron Rodgers. He is my favorite quarterback in the league was pains me to say for cheesehead and he knows exactly what he's doing and by the way how gracious is good for Aaron Rodgers. Okay. So you think this is the evil calculating Aaron Rodgers who knows he can be Zimmer Wrong because the last the last three meetings, he's three zero against them and scoring twenty nine points. So you think he's saying I don't WanNa see Zimmer fired because I can beat them. I. Thought it at immediately as well but then I began to believe that this was sincere his players don't talk about coaches on other teams they never do this you know belong and. They walk into your. Right because Zach quarterback room and they become your coach has anybody stood up for atom gay, Snow. Anybody stood up for Quin Dan Quinn though and we stood up for O'Brien, Brian? No. At Rogers doesn't even stand up for McCarthy and. So I think this is sincere and I will tell you this and you want you want him fired. You want Zimmer fired that don't know even though. You've said it even Rogers is seven four and one against Zimmer civil only had one losing season in Minnesota. Mike, he's fifty, eight, forty, three in one God I'm going to say a little hasty. Say Air Rogers okay. I'll back down song but the Viking. Stink right now they're not supposed to stink and they've had disappointments even at the end of regular seasons they've had disappointed. Zimmer's watch. All right. So let's not make Zimmer out to be Tom Landry. The slow our roll on that and by the way Aaron Rodgers. Once again, we'll skip merrily through the NFC central where this biggest threat is supposed to be Zimmer's team and it's not Let's take a break when we come back. Should the Patriots be sellers at nets next week's trade deadline. Nebraska and the big ten go their separate ways. Like? Tony I gotta go. I'm going right now. Leave it cost. Okay. Knock yourself out. I'll put a fortune teller. THAT COSTUME ALREADY Welcome back to the PTI PSYCHOT- line where I've played the role of a fortune teller and Mike plays the role of the new Chris Paul. Welcome to the new Chris Paul Workout show you WanNa, make it to the NBA. You gotTa have. Kill, crossover. It's. Time out I think I sense the first call? Tony Mike, do you see the Patriots selling at next week's trade deadline? So, there's an article in sports illustrated a report there, which says that the Patriots are open to trading quote almost anyone I think I got that quote right and they should they should get some draft picks they should rebuild I was talking with Jason Lockenfora this morning on my podcast and he says, they have no speed whatsoever on offense they got nobody who can get down the field. There are no particular threaten any way so I think it's going to come down to this Mike the Boston the Buffalo game if the Patriots beat Buffalo, they say we have a path to win the division because we got. Buffalo. Again, we've already beat. Miami once we get the jets twice and if they lose it, they go. Oh, my God we're on the titanic let's get into the lifeboats and that's what I think. They'RE GONNA Bill Tony Bill Belichick will get rid of anybody at any time even winning a championship in care the airwaves populated and other I dunno high school gymnasiums for all I know could be populated with the Bill Villa Check has gotten rid of with people think wait a minute did just off all pro form that's what the Patriots do. They're always sell it so I don't see this as being any big deal. Next call. Juicy Nebraska and the big ten staying together for the long term role. So this is a bad marriage between Nebraska and the big ten Nebraska came out right away and they say we wanNA play when the big ten said we're not playing they said well, we WANNA play. Now the big ten is playing I think personally Nebraska should be allowed to play. Ut Chattanooga sat there for Wisconsin can't play or you memphis a ut lookout mountain it's okay with me. But where they belong Nebraska is in a big eight, which is now the big twelve, which only has ten teams. They Belong Plane Oklahoma all the time Nebraska what a goal there Colorado or to come back there, and that's it call it a day. You're wrong and even though there's been some newlywed angst Tony. Belongs now the big ten they can have a non conference game in normal years. They can have that with Oklahoma and put that atop their schedule fine but Tony. The team that we don't want a conference schools, I don't want I don't want rutgers I don't want Maryland. I don't really don't want Penn State Nebraska does belong to brass a mid western school and the profile fits like Wisconsin. Illinois Ashley here you have said to Nebraska Thousand Get coaching shut up. That's right and you said get. conference. That's what you just said it. Understood. They had to be under big ten thumb under rule some bumps in any marriage maybe except yours, they're fine. Unbelievable. The phone lines are now closed. Let's take one break. But in our future, I see US discussing a fountains finally, not blowing a fourth quarter lead and what will Mike d'antoni do for Steve Nash and then nets as an assistant. Coach. Was Arthur. Blank on the sideline dancing last night he wasn't Dan but he was on the sidewalk who? was. Very well dressed had the nice. Weather neath. Marries a dialer lead. He's got the Atlanta Cola various. All. The new Chris Ball is pleased to welcome US Open champion Bryson t Shambo. I don't need that. Chris Paul Workout I got my own fourteen thousand calories a day. Eat It really even. Get happened everything. Happy Twenty, four, th birthday, Devon. Booker. It's funny how this show works. If you play in Chicago Phoenix, we'll as homes he loves you for years. The Phoenix Suns were two years away from being two years away. But now with booker and the Andrea Eight in the suns are actually on the move they went eight and all when the bubble and booker average thirty point five points. Joins a small list of wilpon favorite young players who thinks are potential superstars, booker Jamaal Murray of Denver Donovan Mitchell Utah. He likes them because they weren't super high draft picks looking number seven booker and Mitchell went thirteenth Devon. Booker is a scoring guard not distributing guard. He's gone over fifty three times. He scored seventy. Once this was booker's breakthrough season. He averaged twenty six points, six points a game a nearly forty nine percent shooting from the field and thirty five percent. From three and this was the first time booker made the All Star game looked gift fall away game winner Booker's star not a potential star Tony he and Donovan Mitchell as you say, throw in Jason Tatum look dodgers. That's the five while the way booker eight new Bray Rubio Bridges, Cam Johnson Phoenix is going to be good this year Tony and booker is the star. He's the player that will make all that work nobody knows anything about him but they will by February? You know something Dot Gov. Happy Anniversary Washington nationals a new state. Last year, my nats capped off an improbable postseason run by winning game seven on the Road Houston every game of the world series was won by the road. See the nats. And Thirty one on May twenty third and seemingly out of the playoff picture when they started their long climb to ninety three and sixty, nine, the when five zero, one limitation Games during the playoffs despite trailing in every one of those games they stayed in the fight no team had ever won as many as four elimination games. The team was constructed around starting pitching in contrast to. The teams we just saw next Sherzer Stephen Strasburg Patrick Corbin routinely pitched into the seventh and eighth innings timely hitting provided by Anthony Rendong one soda when how he Kendra and the magic was provided by utility man Arado Parham whose baby shark walkup music change the vibe on the team. But because of the Astros cheating story and the pandemic, the nats never got the full run this year. You mentioned Bryce Harper tone. You didn't mention I don't see him. Oh. Away Bryce Harper not they on a team I'll tell you what I feel bad about living in Washington being a fan living in Washington. You guys didn't get to just sort of revel in the aftermath that season after would you just walk around with duck out because you're the reigning champion Washingtonians didn't get that I feel for them because. Happy trails to Ryan Braun. The walkie grew brewers declined to exercise their part of a fifteen million dollar mutual option. Instead, they will buy out Braun for four million and the former MVP will become a free agent Braun is the brewers all time leader in home runs with three hundred, fifty, two, rank second RBI with eleven hundred, fifty, four second also doubles extra base hits and total bases. He's third and run score and hits with one thousand, nine, hundred, sixty, three, one will turn thirty-seven in November and has publicly contemplated stepping away from. Baseball, he hit a career low two, thirty, three, this season, he was limited to thirty nine games by a bad back drawn plate is entire fourteen year career. In Milwaukee, we was rookie of the year in two thousand, seven MVP in two thousand eleven but his luster was dull when he was suspended for sixty five games in two thousand thirteen for using performance enhancing drugs, and he later admitted he had lied when he vigorously denied the positive test his numbers before and after that suspension are starkly different and you can draw the obvious conclusion. If you don't count Henry because he was only there for and is Milwaukee Braves for Henry Aaron. It's MOLITOR. Yount and Braun. Right? I mean he he's on that that list for that franchise he's that I. Yep, let's go to the big finish it from. I do it. Mighty and Tony finalizing a deal to become assistant under Steve Nash, big deal, Mike Tony as an offensive coordinator big deal an enormous heightened. Yes. The Falcons did not collapse last night they beat the panthers is that significant? Yeah Division game they should have five wins. 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Episode 2: Prime Suspect

CounterClock

43:56 min | 7 months ago

Episode 2: Prime Suspect

"Someone Fatally Stabs Stacy Stanton. Inside her apartment on February third. This, was violent. Brutal. On February Third Nineteen Ninety someone brutally murdered twenty eight-year-old Stacey Stanton inside of her second story apartment in north. Carolina. Then cleaned up and disappeared the residents of Manziel have lived in fear. For thirty years, Stanton's killer has had one face and one name North Carolina investigators in Oh police. Believe that someone is Clifton Spencer. But his prejudice they absolutely have tunnel vision that it was the black man who killed the white woman keeping an innocent man convicted they will know Nassim of them will go. Good old. Man, in new there. In covering up more than one crime. For that guy I just really search league. This is counter clock the investigation into the murder of Stacey Stanton. I'm your host Delia Denver. Within hours of processing stacy's apartment, the SBA forensic team led by Dennis Honeycutt bagged and tagged a lot of evidence. He dusted nearly every surface lifting eighty-one fingerprints in total. Whether these prints belonged to just one person couple of people or even eighty one. They didn't know that but they knew there was potential that a lot of people had been in Stacey small. Rental Unit. But this didn't really surprise police because as the FBI agents got to the scene and began talking with people, they realized pretty quickly that stacy was a very social person. She had a lot of people in and out of place on a regular basis. In addition to her job as a waitress, she cut here in her apartment to make extra money on the side. So there were people coming and going from the unit all of the time. According to ESPN, is report all of the fingerprints were retrieved from surfaces like doorframes, tables, cups, stuff you would expect and none of the prints were impressions maiden, blood. So with so many fingerprints to work with they needed to figure out who belong to, but it was complicated because some of the prints were only partial. To start they at least wanted to talk with people who would have had a reason to be at Stacey's people that were close tour and were around the apartment on a regular basis people who probably had touched a lot of services in her house. They figured several prints were gonNA come back as being stacy's but they also had strong suspicions that some going to belong to a man named Norman. Brandon. Stacy's recent ex boyfriend. Now everyone knew Norman as Mike. So from here on out, we're GONNA call Norman Mike Brandon. Investigators were really interested in my because they've found mail address to him inside of Stacy's apartment that mail was a clear sign that he lived temporarily with her at some point. Conveniently for the FBI Mike? Had An extensive criminal history North Carolina and the State Department of Corrections already had his fingerprints on file P- the SBA I plan to compare his prince to some of the eighty one prince found the scene. What's interesting though is that Mike Actually beat them to the? Punch. At three thirty in the afternoon on February third, just an hour or so after stacy was found dead Mike came to the police. He said, he wanted to help because he thought he might have information on who stacey was with the night before. He showed up at the crime scene and given a handwritten statement to dare county sheriff's colonel. Jasper Williams? Mike wrote that the night before Friday February second he was at a downtown bar called the Green Dolphin pub. He said he saw stacy there but he wasn't with her he was with his new girlfriend patty who worked at the bar. Mike said everyone was drinking and stacey became upset that he was with new girl then she stormed off and left. Right around that time, she left Mike says a friend of his named Clifton Spencer walked into the bar. After Clifton came inside, he began talking with Mike. Mike said Clinton was causing problems in the pub with some guys over money at the pool table going missing and this interaction made Clifton eventually leave but he returned a little while later to tell Mike that he'd been at Stacey's. Clifton said that while he was there stacey asked him to go back to the bar and tell Mike to come see her. When Mike said, he wasn't GonNa, go see stacy because he didn't care to Clifton mentioned he was going back over to stacy's to see if she was all right because he was there before she'd been crying. After getting this statement from Mike Jasper, Williams began looking into it he wasn't exactly clearing my of any connection to the crime just yet but because Mike had been so forthcoming right away Jasper believed that what he'd said was relevant. Not long after getting my statement, the sheriff's Office decided to run a records check on Clifton Spencer Deputy Terry. Williams is the one ass to do that. Now if you remember, Terry is the same woman who found Stacy's body earlier in the afternoon with Tina. When she's asked to run a check on Clifton, she switched gears from being a part-time diner hostess in his back and law enforcement mode. Terry told me that in between the time Jasper took Mike statement at three thirty in the afternoon and before the SBA I began processing stacy's apartment she was asked to look into Clifton Spencer. She says, she sat in on a conversation in Jasper. Williams office with an FBI agent joining them and those men agreed that Clifton was already a suspect. It's at that. Point Jasper tells her to run an open warrant check on Clifton. Terry says she did, and after punching some parameters into a criminal records database, a result came back. Clifton Spencer a black blackmail from Columbia, North Carolina a town thirty minutes away from Mayo had an outstanding warrant for drug charges. The State of New Jersey had put the worn out on him and technically this meant he was a wanted man. I dug through a pile of old documents and was actually able to find that exact warrant print out from February third nineteen ninety the paper shows that at six o four pm on February third the printout landed on Jasper Williams desk. Now this means that just a few hours into their investigation before any physical proof was obtained showing Clifton even knew stacy investigators had him on their radar as someone of interest but not because of any physical evidence that placed him at the scene but because Mike Brandon had brought his name up the FBI agents in the manual police chief decided to re interview Mike again because so far he's the only one who brought up Clinton's name and it was possible he might have no more about him. At. Nine forty at night on February third, the police and Mike meet at the dare county courthouse in downtown. Again recapped his story of being at the Green Dolphin pub, the previous night, and he mentioned that he saw stacy and Clifton, but this time Mike. Went into more detail. He addressed right off the bat that he used to live with stacy in her apartment. But said that he moved out just two months earlier in December of nineteen, eighty, nine to me. That's a good way to explain why his fingerprints might be inside if investigators found any. Mike said after he and Stacey had broken up he started seeing his new girlfriend, a woman named Patty Roe. My. Tells the agents that Patty found out. She was pregnant with his child at the beginning of February but he wasn't sure if stacy knew that or not. He said when he got to the bar at six o'clock, he cashed his paycheck with the bartender and then met up with. Patti. Stacey was inside near the jukebox drinking wine coolers, and to avoid direct contact with his ex he started playing pool in another room. But Stacey kept making eye contact with them and eventually made your way over to. He. said that she asked him how he was doing and if he was ready to come home. That comment upset Patty and the Closer Stacey got to Mike the Worse the situation became. Mike says at one point. Stacey. was rubbing on his arms and told him that she still loved him and he said that he said the same thing back to her. Patty is pregnant girlfriend who is right there grew angrier and angrier with the drama and finally Mike just told stacy leave. So she did upset and crying. After that Mike says that Clifton walked into the bar and asked Mike if he wanted to smoke crack together and Mike dowse Clifton No. Then just like Mike and said, in his original written statement he says Clifton got into a verbal spat with some guys at the pool table over money going missing and then Clifton left. He says Clifton returned about a half hour later told Mike. He gone walking ran into Stacey in her driveway. Clifton tells Mike that Stacey was still crying and had asked Clifton to go back to the bar and tell Mike to come over to her apartment. Mike Tony Clifton that he wasn't gonNA leave the bar and said he would catch up with Stacey later. Mike says Clifton than asked him for money to go buy cocaine but Mike refused. Mike. said that night Clifton was broke and wanted drugs badly he'd gone around to a lot of people asking to bum off money. Mike said he in Clifton weren't exactly friends and that they just knew each other from work. At the time. Mike. Worked in construction and Clifton had once a delivery driver for a building supply company in Mankato they'd become friends and had a history of doing drugs together. Mike's us that Clifton new stacy because he'd been to her apartment several times to do cocaine. Mike says when Clifton left the bar for the second time, it was around eleven o'clock at night, and that was the last time he saw him. In his interview, Mike was very clear to establish his own alibi. He said that after a few hours of drinking, he and Patty left the bar with some friends and everyone went to that friends home in to stay the night. He says he was there the entire night and those people could vouch for him. But before questioning Mike, any further or confirming his alibi, the SBA I immediately ran with what Mike told them about, Clifton? Their top priority from that point forward was finding and questioning Clifton. Because they believed, he was the last person to see. Stacey alive. S. B. I. Agents Working Stacy's case we're able to track down Clifton in the small town of Columbia north. Carolina. Columbia is a thirty minute drive inland. From Mayo you have to pass through it if you're going to the outer banks from cities like Raleigh Charlotte, it's just over the dare county line in Tarot County. Less than a thousand people live there and in a stark contrast Emmanuel most of the residents Tarot County are African American Clifton has called Columbia home since he was born. I was just like any a young man who grew up in the sixties. You know we my friends. We all played a lot of sports. You know every day will play basketball or something Sambas we pay He graduated from Columbia High. School and was well known in the small community by the time turned eighteen. His family like everyone else there was poor and black but that didn't bother him. My Dad or very hard to provide for the family. My mother Lozo was a homemaker. And I think that you know I just said. To me. Normal small town upbringing. Did wear on him and other black families in. Columbia. Was the town's claim to fame the historic, somerset? Plantation Aka, an old rich white families home were three hundred black slaves lived and worked before the American civil. War. The biggest thing down in that area is. That plantation that everybody wanted to go and see. So historic marker, but the history is not a good history or anywh. This site is a nationally recognized tourist attraction and its roots of racism run deep in the small town. There is lands all over the place. Gerald County into the thirties Washington I'm sure they're count editors as well. then. It was almost like it's like a towel being such like when they when somebody. The railroad tracks that Clifton grew up playing around aren't far from Somerset. The railway was essential back in the day for transporting goods from the plantation. And it's along those same tracks on Sunday February fourth nineteen ninety that the terrel county sheriff pulls over his cruiser. Kerr he sees thirty one year old Clifton. Spencer. Walking alone. Here's quickens memory of that moment. Came up there and he said. She. Needed a tall to me. I came up with here. Is there a need for you to go? Come with me down to. The sense of Anita tel-aviv some I said okay. So there with him. When I got tear Think spoke will. SBA agent. Thank this sheriff's deputy sheriff from Derek. County. Clifton spent the next two hours willingly talking with Mantos police chief, Steve Day, and an espionage agent named Kent inskeep. Now They asked me questions. About Stacy last time I saw and I saw last night. Clifton explained to the men that he'd been in manual the Green Dolphin pub on Friday February. Second. He had no idea. Stacey had been murdered until they broke the news to him in a very bizarre way. Down there in the jail. They walked out and left. Me Sitting at a desk I think was the sheriff's this. It was too big pitchers land face down. On, the desk before I got there not even really. Noticed that they will get what he told with direct me to sit right here. So what those figures were. Pitches Stacey. Made me mad at me you did. Right, did just other. Despite this cruel way of telling him Stacey was dead Clifton still cooperated with investigators. He told them everything he remembered about that night. He said he started hitchhiking around six thirty at night and two white guys. He knew had given him a ride from Columbia demand you and then those men dropped him off at the Green Dolphin. POB around o'clock. When I I the Internet bar when I got there, I just walked up there and a particular time. People call really didn't go spend a lot of time. At night. Time to time I have been in day to day. I did see Stacy I came in. And apparently. Once, I came in she was. have. Some kind of disagreement for for. Boyfriend. So she took off ran out. Clifton got some bad vibes from two white guys at the bar who worked for the coastguard. He says, he got the impression that he wasn't welcome there because he was black he says, those guys accused him of stealing coins off of the pool table which he denied. At that point Clifton says he's over all of the tension and decided to just leave. He had plans to go to his friend win Moore's house anyway, and it was only about a fifteen minute walk from the bar. Headed to my friend's house. And I actually was walking fast. Apartment at least he was living at that particular time. And she. Has, been drinking but she saw me Schaal that man I I went to see. Was You wanting? So from there you know she. Pretty much asked me. If the I, didn't mind to go back and asked her boyfriend to. Come by the House. I went by Nass. And three too much. This went all. Decided reclined to Cook After Mike said, he didn't care to catch up with Stacey Clifton went back to Stacy's tell her Mike wasn't coming by. This was around eleven o'clock at night according to Clifton. He said after that second trip to Stacy's apartment. He and Stacey shared a few drinks vodka together inside of her kitchen and living room and she continued to lament over Mike. After. A while Stacey decided, she wanted to smoke crack. Now Clifton was down for this because at the time he admits he was a full blown drug addict who didn't have a steady job and nowhere to be since. He was technically homeless. About Lot ahead transparent up to that point before that particular date. I was in a point in my life where I wasn't it'll good space at all. I had started using drugs. And Take that from that point on. I've become a drug addict. You know I was just out there running around. Those function and drug. Hours working every day but yet I will go out to use drugs and. I say up to that day I used suggest chase. Fine people have wanted to go get hired I just hang with. A lot of the people that I come in contact with. Those manual was people that use drugs. At this point, it's important to note that along with Stacey and Clifton at her apartment there was another man who came by briefly. His name is Richard Fugate, and he's a guy who'd been at the Green Dolphin. Pub. On both trips, Clifton May to stacy's apartment to and from the Bar, He tells investigators that he richard and Stacy were inside the apartment together. But then eventually Richard Left. We'll get more into Richard story in a future episode but for now just keep that in the back of your mind. Clifton says after Richard Leaves, it's just him and Stacey. It's at that point that they decide they're going to smoke crack. Stacey has a little bit inside of a pipe in her bedroom, but by the time Clifton goes to get it and comes back to see. Stacey. Remind and didn't want any. So Clifton takes a hit by himself and uses it all up. A few minutes later stacey walks into the room and ask for some apparently she changed her mind again. But after Clifton took the hit, there wasn't any left for Clifton says, Stacey handsome thirty five to forty dollars in cash and asked him to go out and buy some more which he does. And this is the point where Clifton says, his memory gets really really fuzzy both during his interrogation with investigators in nineteen. And still to this day. He says, he knows he left Stacy's apartment and went to some areas around town where he thought he could score, but he never got any drugs. The details of how long that took him or any specific people he came across he can't remember. He says his memory is so bad because his brain was in a fog from drinking most of the night and being high. According to the SBA agents paperwork. On this case, they wrote down that Clifton said that at one point before he left to get drugs, he and stacy had laid down in her living room together on her mattress. The agents paperwork says that Clifton said he remembered at one point Stacey. Out of the mini skirt that she'd been wearing at the pub and put on gray sweatpants. The FBI agents also wrote that Clifton said that he thought he may have tried to be intimate with stacy laying down together but he knew nothing really happened because he had not been able to become aroused. But that's according to the SBA agents reports Clinton says he doesn't remember saying any of this. One thing he does know for sure is that after wandering in search of drugs for a bit, he returned to Stacy's apartment to give her her money back. But by the time he returned her door was locked. He told investigators he believed this was around one thirty or two in the morning. He couldn't be sure and he thought it was weird that the apartments inside door was locked because stacey was expecting him to come back with drugs. When he couldn't get in and no one answered the door. He just decided to keep the money and then he headed to his friend Wayne's house. Clifton made the short walk to Wayne's but he says when he got there, Wayne wasn't home. After making a few laps around his neighborhood and stumbling through a nearby convenience store parking lot. He returned to Wayne's between four and five in the morning knocked again and this time Wayne answered. Clifton Wayne, let him inside and within a few minutes he fell asleep on a recliner in his living room. The next morning he said he hitchhiked on US sixty four and manlio a white male pulled over and offered him a ride back to Columbia. As Chief Day in the FBI agent are listening to Clifton version of events they realize he's just given them a ton of information. There were several people they needed to verify his story with but I they him if he'd agree to take a polygraph the next day and Clifton said yes. Just to make sure that Clewiston Pinton, go anywhere the police acted on that outstanding warrant from New Jersey and arrested him Clifton was locked down for the time being Tarot, county. The next morning a few more FBI agents, their supervisor chief day, and Jasper Williams. From the sheriff's office in Dare County arrived to the sheriff's Office and Tarot County. They prepare Clifton for his polygraph and ask him to sign a release form. But at that point, he's not really feeling it anymore. Clinton had sobered up after spending the night in jail and he's thinking clearer. Now he tells the investigators he doesn't want to take the test without speaking to an attorney or to his father. I. By one o'clock that afternoon both of Clinton's parents had come to the jail and spoken with them, and after that Clifton decided, he would take the test. He said speaking with his parents convinced him that because he had nothing to hide, he should use this as a chance to prove he wasn't involved. They had me Sinden. Making. A whole lot of noise anytime. I see somebody just make a lot of noise. So every time it makes laws I look at it you know something like data so it was. Not. Accurate reading or give a reading. Maybe maybe I'm not I actually being truthful whatever. For three and a half hours in SBA agent grilled Clifton about his version of events and everything he said happened between him Stacey. I got a hold of some public documents that detailed is interrogation by the FBI and when you look at them, you can see that really a lot of the agents questions weren't really questions at all. They were more suggestive statements to Clifton to see if he would agree. There police as together and they're making. A story out of nothing. The. Sbi they didn't completely live. What they did was they made us a narrow with some things that I did say to make it saying like this is false. This is why at. The very end of the polygraph. They finally ask Clifton Three Direct questions. Did you cut stacy? Did you cut stacey in the apartment and were you there when stacy was cut? To of the FBI agents doing the interrogation grade, the results, and they gave Clifton core of negative twelve, which according to them meant he'd failed. Now at this point, Clifton is starting to figure out what's really going on. He is a murder suspect and there was no way he's going to continue to talk with them but they keep after him and that night the pressure only caught worse. By. Ten o'clock the S B I had gotten a judge to sign off on a search warrant which allowed the SBA to seize blood hair including from Clifton. He told them that the shirt he was wearing when they arrested him was the same one he worn on Friday night at the bar so they took that to. The warrant also allowed the SBA I dare Clinton's fingerprints to the ones collected from the crime scene but Clifton already told them he'd been inside Stacy's apartment. So is prints were probably going to be on a lot of surfaces. Avenue that you know whatever they took for me. You know like the fingerprints I know of fingerprints because that was him. Around midnight, Clifton was taken to chew on hospital just outside of Columbia, a doctor, their plucked out his hair and drew his blood and right away it went to Dennis Honeycutt. February sixth and seventh go by with Clifton still sitting in jail. But on Thursday, the eighth to FBI agents returned interrogate him once again. This time they confront him head on, and they suggest that he tried to put the moves on stacy while they were alone in her apartment and she rejected him things got ugly and she'd come at him with a knife and that's why he killed her Clifton denied all of that. He said that he couldn't remember a lot of what had happened that night because he was high and drunk but he knew he didn't kill anyone. He said he'd vaguely remembered laying down on the mattress next Stacey for a bit and maybe engaging in heavy petting but he's The have sex. After hours of telling the SBA, the same story over and over again, Clifton was exhausted and mentally drained. Do we were doing was. were, Ashley put me in a setting and filling in blanks. I like one a day just said. You will drink you're stays at the drinks yet drinks. Were did you ever use? Bathroom He. Didn't go to pacify left. US A bathroom. Why he did was he put me he wanted to put me in the bathroom. He did it and then he wrote a statement to say it admit to clean it up far-left left. Clifton never had a lawyer with him during any of these interogations on top of that none of the conversations between him and the s B. I were ever recorded. There was no recordings of any of those conversations that I have with. Not, a single one. It had been then people would say that saying the things that they said I said. Every conversation he had with police was slowly becoming his word against theirs. As they wore him down and said, he felt like he had no choice. But to cooperate the more, he resisted the more the point the finger at him and put words in his mouth. Finally, he felt the only way to clear his name was to do what they asked. At eight o'clock that night February Eighth SBA agents ask Clifton to go with Dimaggio they wanted him to show them the exact route he said he took from Stacy's apartment to Wayne's trailer. According to their own reports, the SBA transported Clinton from Columbia and drove him to manual. Now, this is wrong for one huge reason. They didn't have the authority to do that. The Sheriff of Tarot County never signed off on a prisoner transport order Clifton meaning the s I couldn't just take a terrible county prisoner and move them into another jurisdiction for an investigation that had nothing to do with the drug charges clicked was facing technically Clifton was a prisoner of Tarot county waiting to be extradited back to New Jersey. So, by removing him from Columbia and taking him to dare county for the murder investigation that violated protocol and violated the law. But these sa aren't following what you call standard procedure. At this point I mean, they've already interrogated the man multiple times without letting him contact an attorney and they're not recording any of the interviews they've had with him. Now they're taking him on a ride thirty minutes away to isolated. Lifton says that car ride made him nervous because he didn't know these. SB agents or what they were going to do. Even though he had a criminal history and Tarot County, he at least knew the sheriff there and there was familiarity up until this point, he said the Sheriff and Columbia had been really cool with him at the jail a made sure that he was comfortable entreated in like a normal person not a murder suspect. As the car pulls out of Columbia, Clifton is headed away from any law enforcement. He knows and he's going to dare county to try and convince the SBA agents that he's innocent. Once they arrive in Mankato he rides along with the FBI and shows them the path that he took on foot from the pub to stacy's apartment, and then to his friend Wayne's. I wanted to see this path for myself. So I took a trip up to manlio. Turn left onto. Queen. Elizabeth Avenue. Then turn left onto an-and is dare street. In a quarter mile destination will be on the left. It was important. I retrace Clinton steps so I could understand exactly what he told investigators. What I found was that the walk from the Green Dolphin pub to stacy's would have taken him only a few minutes seven at most the walk from Stacy's to Wayne's would have been longer more like fifteen minutes. The locations aren't super far apart, but it was easier for me to just drive there. Let's plug in the. Address to Wayne Morris as house. From here. So Wayne lived exactly point seven miles from face apartment on the ice gear street. OVER DOWN Just a little bit a two minute drive. Says Thirteen minute walk. Clifton told the FBI that as he walked to Wayne's he crossed over US sixty four head west Ananias dare street toward US sixty, four east then turn right onto us sixty, four west. Then he cut behind the Elizabethan in hotel went through some trees and ended up at the back of Wayne's trailer. The Elizabethan in is still operating today and the property looks almost exactly the same as it did in nineteen ninety. So he cut through the back, the Elizabeth and he could have gotten away is actually faster than the route were taking drive because we're taking the roads. But if you're on foot, you could cut back behind the end and then through a small little stretch of woods and clipped would've come right up to Wayne's trailer. Wayne says his trailer was trailer sixty, two on. Jackson Street which this is. All right. This is all like a trailer park neighborhood. So trailer sixty, two, trailers sixty, two there it is. A new family lives in Wayne's trailer now but seeing where it was located really was helpful for me. The area was right next to my old high school and a mile from my parents house it somewhere driven probably hundreds of times. So I started to think what had the SBA I agents in Clifton done at this point thirty years prior to me standing there what was their next move? If it were me I'd have taken Clifton back to Colombia and seen one of their leads I could follow up on but that wasn't what happened. Instead the agents took Clifton to a trailer a little ways up the road. It was an old building dare county used as an offsite drug investigations bureau. Inside the dingy trailer worth you chairs a table and more. FBI agents. And they took me to is also said I guess the undercover truck enforcement from the sheriff's department uses us either on airport, road. They took me in an office. and. ages, I didn't know never saw him. And they just sent me just kept talking about this. You'RE GONNA. Say this say I said that you know whatever our say. They would Ashley Trial and something to would have agents left me in the room. You know handcuffs saw and there was a rifle sitting right beside I don't know if bullets what I still they don't see for trying trying to send me up here. And I told them, I wanted to go back to Columbia. But, Clifton didn't go back to Colombia. He sat a not office and endured another interrogation that lasted four hours. The SBA I pushed him hard even bring up his criminal history from when he served in the army. You see Clifton had been charged and convicted of assaulting one of his former girlfriend's while stationed in Germany many years earlier. In that attack, he admitted to using a pair of scissors. The S. B. I hammered him about this detail and they suggested that he had attacked Stacey in a similar way except this time he used a knife. Again Clifton denied that, but the pressure was becoming overwhelming and he had nothing left. Day agent kept asking me same question over and over again. I said Man I don't toe you. Kept, telling I kept telling. Asked me they're saying question. Probably about the ten eleven time. I just didn't say anything. I just took a deep breath and just helmet he. Age and said, I, should be yes. The other agents said that he saw me. To, apparently, he must the same through the wall. said that I should be yeah I didn't do that. Say Thank you for what? Did. He said you know like count. Feel bad for what you know this when you come. At nonsense. The FBI agents wrote in their report that Clifton slumping his head in exhaustion was confirmation to them that he had nodded yes to what they were accusing him of, and that was as good as a confession. That's when they wrap up the interrogation and transport him back to Columbia around midnight. Finally on February ninth. Clifton father shows up to the jail with a local attorney from Columbia. This attorney, a man by the name of Charles Ogle tree talks with Clifton for a while and shuts down any more one on one interrogation with the FBI. But at that point, the damage had already been done a lot of damning information against Clifton information that they use to request an arrest warrant for first degree murder. They went to the district attorney on February ninth and explain to their case so far but the DA said no way he said there was not enough sufficient. To, arrest, Clifton for the crime and he pushed back saying that the FBI I needed to dig further and do actual detective work to prove their case not just keep interrogating Clifton. But while they had to wait for forensic evidence to be processed the pressure to make an arrest was mounting, and this is where the FBI and local investigators really dug their heels in. They wanted to find anything that supported Clifton was there man instead of going back and talking with witnesses like Terry, Williams and Tina and Mike Brandon, they visit Wayne Morris. The one man who is supposedly Clifton Alibi or at least someone who would have had direct contact with Clifton shortly after the murder. I found Wayne earlier this year and he still lives in a trailer in Mankato, but just not the same one as he did in nineteen ninety. And what he told me as we sat in his living room, blew my mind. Wayne Morris was the first person to see Clifton Spencer after he left Stacy's apartment. The FBI visited Wayne when they realized they needed more evidence in order for the DA to give them an arrest warrant for Clifton. This cop come combine my house. And said, he needed to talk to me that's talked to me about what? He said, are you new Clifton? Sea Cliff name and I say yes. He said what was he by Your House? It's time and I said, yes, he came by you know told a one time. These cops came in the house two of them. As I recall they talked to me for a long the guy asked me did I mind him walking around my house on new he won't run a house and he found his own knife or Lane there I had found I was GONNA clean up. Any show man and he's been idea for she probably a year maybe you know just been laying up on trailer he said Okay I'll put it about what was that The agents came inside and asked Wayne if you tell them what he remembered when Clifton came by so we did. From. My back door and I said, Oh man who is this a man's me cliff. Do I saw may be He'd been central geeked up you know he's mad at me craftsmen agrees. To do. 'cause it every night. Then trip withdraw by me in the crash. He had been out all night partying and will wanted to go to Columbia. So he has could crash Tilles ride. That's you know I'm going to go to work. When Clifton showed up, did he have any blood on him? No, he was just highs hair excuse me he would just. Goal, man knowing he no blood on. Who sitting in my recliner. Sleep when I live. And you want to save some blood this their head is nice. Little shirt and these genes. Oh Man, that's what I remember. So clearly Wayne still feels the same way as he did back then when I compared what he told me in our interview with transcripts from the conversation, he had with the S B I thirty years ago his story hasn't changed. It's almost word for word the same. He remembers clearly that Clifton got to his house between four and five in the morning. Any also remembers clearly what the SBA. I asked him to do after I came to his trailer as me what I wanted to take all live -tective. Let's say sure in took one at the ducal has closed down. But I took a lie detector test there. And Soon Mike Agreement I took a lie detector test twice. That's right. The S I had Wayne go to a motel and Manlio a place that's a dilapidated rat trap now, and they wanted him to undergo a polygraph and took the test them. No matter what are not gonna live. Why don't notice girl beat new cliff new girl on a new cliff or with party down here I. See I think they just wanted wanting to take that test because he told our. Trying, to hide some cliff maybe but I told it was man. Got Me taking this this test because the GonNa, try to lie for him but I told him. Amen the guy came by inquest at my house like he does all the. Wayne passed his polygraph with flying colors. The FBI found no signs of deception in anything that he'd said. And the fact that he'd been so open to talking with me about the case makes me believe he's telling the truth I mentioned to him. I'd found an SBA agents report in my research that claimed forensic tax had sprayed luminol in his living room and on his recliner to look for blood. I wanted to know if Wayne remembered that but his answer wasn't what I expected at all. At you. And that was it and then we'll come did new. Forensic. Not that man. That was a direct contradiction to what I read with my own eyes in the SBI's documents. So either Wayne is isn't remembering it right or the NC B. fudged this detail. But why why would they lie about that something so critical. And why haven't they looked at anyone else but clifton? Those another person I thought was on the radar that was never really. vetted. I? Need. The answers are next week on counterpart. All the tall seen. Never seen a trial like this. Be Sure to follow counterclockwise on social media and subscribe on Apple Podcasts spotify or wherever you get your podcasts. Counter clock is an audio chuck original show. Ashley Flowers is the executive producer and all reporting in hosting is done by me dealing.

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Ep 104: Crinkle, Crinkle, Little Star

Nobody Listens to Paula Poundstone

1:24:03 hr | 9 months ago

Ep 104: Crinkle, Crinkle, Little Star

"Starving. Men. And coming to you live from our houses in Los, Angeles California. It's nobody listens to poundstone your comedy field guide to life tonight. What I haven't gotten around to show, all of us have a long list of things. We were GONNA. Do during the safer at home lockdown period. Justification blinds alphabetized the books on our shelves. Many even read some of them. But what have we done nothing except make food. EAT IT and clean the dishes so tonight. We're going to get around to doing the things. We wanted to do on this podcast, but haven't done yet. Like maybe stay on topic. Plus how are we doing in the American? Minor outlying islands. Let's put it this way. We have a listener. I'm Adam felber. This shows Human Roomba circling the PODCAST, trying to pick up stray pieces of furry relevancy and sweep them away and now please welcome. The woman who sheds more topics than cats do hair. Paula poundstone an. I'm so excited to do the things we haven't gotten around to show. because. There's things I want to get around to. One thing we haven't gotten around to yet is welcoming. Tonight's house band returning champion and nobody. Harry Orlov is back on the Electric Guitar. Nice thank Thank. Thanks for coming back. Man All right Paula whatever you gotten to. Well! I actually haven't gotten her I was going to. Clean, the Venetian blinds. Is that what you mean? I was GONNA dust the Venetian blinds, but I haven't done it. That's a day-long project. The Venetia Blinds will in your house to clean. It is a day-long project, isn't it? I mean. All the cats and whatnot, yeah, and it's the what not the dusting alone is to put you under. You know you do it day, and then it's back the next day and you know it's mostly little flecks of your skin. Did you know that? I did know that based on the amount of dust in my house I should have no skin. You must be growing very fast. Yeah Hey. You're Tony Anita Hill. Did we say hi Tony Bonnie? We didn't let start. Let's do that Hey Tony Anita Hall over in Sherman Oaks California our producer how you doing? Fine everything's great There are a lot of things I haven't gotten to. I was GonNa Marie Condo, my apartment, but that never happened. Condo declutter declutter my apartment. Yeah, where you you get rid of things you don't need anymore and you thank them. For the tiny given you and then you get rid of them. You thank them. You, do you think wow? You know with a gun to my head. I wouldn't thanks to things that I. I'm getting away. Came to if someone was you know if someone said if you don't think. This. Trotsky. Then I'm going to blow you away. I'd go you know what it's been a good run I just can't. You can't thank Trotsky. I cannot think Josh Keyes no no exempts. All right makes all the sense in the world. Yeah now. That was a weird phase. That gripped America the Marie Condo say goodbye to your things as well Tony. Tony Anita Hill is still in that phase. It sounds like what we're trying to get into it. Tony has been a couple of phases. Like. Like a couple of weeks ago I saw her. That's. Saying, yes. and. Let's not forget as soon as we really learn. The extent endangers of covert nineteen pandemic. Tony promptly signed up for a cruise. Yeah, exactly, she's just behind. The phases there were in you know. Show, it'd be good now. A cruise is what she said. He was going to work. She was going to vote Republican because she thought they were the party of Lincoln. Hey. I'm we also want to combined burns? Way North Captain Crinkle captain. Injure producer. That's my signature. Well. I have stuff to talk about tonight. You you do. Oh, I do so in our last show. We were talking about our camp experiences and I brought up that I went to Camp Colloquia and. We talked about Whoa Hilo being Mike our little sign off thing. Yeah, so I looked it up, and it stands for work health and love well. He loves stands for Work Health and love. Yes, I'm thinking. It's like the Jewish equivalent of Chabad Shibam. Well Hilo. couple. Should means what does that mean? I have no idea they just say it. It's your botulinum doesn't mean no Chaban. Means happy Saturday in Hebrew and because Saturday is the. Is Basically. Jews Saturday Sunday well okay, but it sounds like it has really no relationship to what he wo well. It, said thing. They say like Chabad Shalom. Like good to you good, but that's not what you do Bonnie nobody does. It's. I want to point out two things number. One Chabad Shalom has no relationship to Hilo at all. Hilo story you just told us has no relationship to the question. You're asked. I Assane. I have information you checked in with me. I have information away. Tell me against. Staring at my bare feet. It's information that you were last week. Tell me again. What what what? What Hilo means when you looked it up. What did it say? Work Health and love so you go well, he lo, so it means work, health and love. That's weird, though that's not a thing, you say to some work, health and love I mean. Would you say you didn't say good work? Health and love have no. It's like I'm wishing you were. Work. Be Work. Don't wish me work. Walking by somebody and you'd go like well. He Lo. Okay I understand, how would be exchanged between the two people? You don't write it on a piece of paper and handed to them. I get that. But how long a second San Giovanni Week! You told US under remembering this last week. You told us that at your camp. People used were Hilo to say go to bed. It's like the end of the night. Well, he lo okay again. Would you say okay no one? Knew, who is? This exactly for you. People at the end of the night when people. At the end of the night, would you say to someone work, health and love? It's like. Symbolic Symbolic Of One. fucking thing. Saying good night. It is nice, not way not good. What is Chabad Solano good night. Apparently doesn't mean that either. You, like you walk by somebody and you go botch loan. No, you don't not if it's not Saturday. Well No, but if it is seventy. Yes. It's a nice greeting on Saturday it's. Good. That would be like if it was Tuesday walking by someone and say good Saturday, you see why wouldn't be the same? It doesn't matter what language it is. It doesn't make sense. Just so glad I don't have hair to tear out anymore Bonnie. Because I haven't even told you the best player you're not gonNA. Are you know I am so? I looked up Camp Colloquia and it's still exists. Oh Boy, doing business! I'm so excited. yeah. I think that's amazing. Yeah Camp Chafing dish is still there. For you didn't listen to last week show we also discovered that one of the things beside saying why he. Did a Camp Colloquia was the campers would sit around the fire and make hot dog on a stick, okay? We just have to ask you one more question. If you were like seven and like you made dough and a tin can, and then you wrapped it around the stick and you roasted. You cooked it over an open fire. You would think that was pretty cool. Which is why that last week. And I, said probably not. No this is people don't realize this is exactly why. seven-year-olds loved the Great Depression. Yeah. Because all they had was flour and water, and they were happy because they could make hot dog on a stick. Those were the days. Yeah! Yeah God Damn Bonnie! How how we weren't even like five minutes into the show before you completely derailed it. Well, you know. Bonnie she didn't. She didn't show. Let's get to the. Show alone. Shut show. I got another one for you Paula. What he la De Teradata. Did I bet at the dead. Didn't. This is what a lot of people aren't understanding. But what barneys telling you she bought. Shalom means good Saturday, but but. Means and all the other days. So, if I say to you. A Good Friday. I would say data. It's actually yet at at at A. Derived from the Industry Yada Yada. Yada all which means Cetera so Chabad Shalom yet a adding. She's even got me off topic now. You Know Adam, one of the things that I gotten around to doing week after week. I've wanted to mention something I read about a while ago and we've just never gotten around to it, which is. About Sand Dunes I learned. That sand dunes communicate with one another. Just now you, we have we. We've talked about maybe putting that little nugget that story in the show for about six months now. They did a study at Cambridge University, and they discovered that sand dunes actually communicate with one another like one sand. Dune might say to another. Have you seen Lawrence of Arabia? The other sand Dune might say no, but my mother was in it. That's. A. That's sand Dune Communication. You've been waiting for a year to tell that about six months, yeah! I. Don't know why we didn't have that. Show. I read that study. It's. Somewhat interesting, it turns out that one sand dunes rises and falls kind of affects other sand dunes near them, and for some reason they've expressed that as though they're communicating with each other well. They are a San Jose coming over near you. Know, you're not moving. Yeah, no, you can hear that when you're at the beach. Well you know one thing I haven't gotten to that I've meant to is I haven't gotten to solving the murder of our intern, Doug. This is a mystery. This is a gripping mystery. This mystery about three weeks ago, our intern, Doug who some of you have pointed out. We haven't did never mentioned until he was. Brutally murdered. And now we're trying to solve it, and although it might look like a cynical attempt to have our own little true crime podcast thing happening, it's not. A. Although I did learn one more interesting fun fact about Doug Paula. What's that? Well, you know we always kind of. Just referred to him as Doug Yeah. Like, none of us knew his last name he had one. Yeah. No, no, he's see. Share is a very famous famous woman, so she could get away with one name. Doug actually had last name, he never used it. I think it might be some kind of clue. His last name was burns. Really what's? Bunny. That name didn't Yeah Bunny. Can you think of any reason? Why are Intern Doug? Would coincidentally had your last name as well? I, hope this doesn't mean. There's nepotism in our in our intern program. I hope not either, but it's just. It's just another data point out there Doug Burns. Going with this, I don't know. Look, it's. The Clues Bonnie common name? It is. I I always just dug. When I wrote his check. I would just write doug. Never occurred to me right? Yeah, those are some other data points. We know that you were feeling like you were paying him too much, and you couldn't pay him anymore. Yeah, he had recently gotten a raise, and he was dead near a copy of my book. Yeah apparently, in fact there was blood on the book, and then there was a dent in the decided Doug's head. That was exactly the the corner of the book fit in their exactly. And we also know that that Doug that Doug's. Hand was a was apparently burned. Air Fried like an Air Fryer and go hang recently got an Air Fryer. Yeah, and there were. There was a husband and wife detective that we're called to the scene of the crime and that was Tom and Anna Delano. They. They wrote first report on the on the on the crime scene. I'm the tragic tragic death of our intern. As we know found found dead, wearing his signature Kimono and jodphurs so listen. Nobody's out there. If you guys have any clues as to what might have happened to Doug please go to our. Nobody listens to Paula poundstone on facebook page or tweet us. Let us know anything that you've discovered because we're just assembling all the evidence. Okay, this was a weird thing that happened which is to do the crime scene photos for some odd reason. Any LIEBOWITZ was called in and so she moved. She moved everything all around. And pose. That's not what you're supposed to. Enjoy! That right away was against regulation, so we have to look into that. Why would anyone have done that? She she put. Yeah. She put Doug in kind of A. Funny position with cat figurines around him. And nobody really knows, but that was after the murder so. I don't know something. Something fishy happened there there. Yeah, we. We are going to solve this. One I can't wait to see that picture by any leewards. Tremendous okay. But we are going to get to some other things that we we haven't done on this show. Right, Paulo, there's. There's so much that we haven't done. Yeah Oh. You know what we're GonNa do the let's preview. Do Number One. Tony, Anita Hall is going to tell us about a place that apparently super popular in right. Tony, I'm so excited about this so popular. Attorney's GonNa put on her peppers and get ready for that segment and. Something! We never got around to I'm really I'm really dreading this one, but I do have to preview is. Bonnie Burns. There's been a lot of talk about there being a Bonnie Burns spin off podcast. Oh yeah people are clamoring for it. But you haven't gotten around to. Making a yet have the captain crinkles spinoff? Yeah, well, no, because I didn't want to be presumptuous. Tonight tonight. We're going to do all the things we haven't done in Bonney God. Help us. We're going to give you a chance to. Do Your spinoff podcast on our podcast. What could possibly go wrong? All of that and more coming up when we return on, nobody listens develop poundstone well, Hilo. Hey. Why you can get fresh premeasured ingredients and mouth. Seasonal recipes delivered right to your door with hellofresh. America's number one meal Kit hellofresh lets you skip those trips to the grocery store. 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We're covering the things that we haven't gotten to really mean to get to man that feeling that you know that that feeling that it needs scratched of wanting to get around to stuff. You know my desk and I really thought for sure since I'm not traveling that I would. I would get it taken care of. And I started I was down like a couple of inches of paper bilge that builds up on my desk. I was down a couple inches. Yes, I'm going to see the surface of this desk before before. This virus releases us from its grip, and now it's super building back up again. Yeah Yeah. Yeah, it's frustrating. I! Do want to point out. Somebody has gotten something done. which is that Tony Anita? Hull took the initiative and went and ask our listeners before we recorded this show what they haven't gotten to or have been meaning to get to in their lives. And so with that in mind, I wanNA, bring Tony Anita Hill up to the Mike Tony on double duty this week. We have another thing for you later. What's on, but this one? You don't have to wear a pep blows for what's on the hot sheet. What our listeners saying? They haven't done to okay so Stephanie. Lundgren wrote I moved right before the stay at home order and I thought for sure I'd be completely unpacked and organized by now. I've been working from home, so it's not at all free time, but still. I See Oh Yeah. Oh that's the worst feeling as a person who struggles with OCD not being unpacked. I, have to tell you Stephanie. I think I was in one house for twelve years before I unpacked the last box. There's always a one box. That just has stuff that you probably never should have brought with you from the last place. Just. Couldn't you just couldn't think it and say goodbye, and so you still have it? And just sits around in a box for Twelve Years Until the cats pee in that box. That's usually that's usually what motivates we. We have a similar problem in this household and in some ways. It's worse because we bought this house. I'm going to say eight or nine years ago. and. We were living in an apartment before then and literally three weeks before we were supposed to leave the apartment and moved into. This house a pipe behind. Washing machine in our apartment burst, the whole place flooded dip fire department had to come and because of the water remediation. Process we weren't able to pack up our old apartment to move here. That had to be done by professionals. Wow! I didn't know there was such a thing. And some of those boxes were some. are still in our garage. Things wet, so you have boxes of wet belongings in your. Oh, you got to get those out you can. Boxes of wet belonging like a growth of mold. Bax Airs what you got. No, no, it's not the belongings. Themselves weren't wet. I want to point out that the flooding apartment wasn't like knee deep or anything, but it was A. Damaged the floor and stuff like that. No, that was a big flood I. Remember that I. Remember finding you and Jeannie. In the middle of the apartment in a tiny ship. And the Terni should talk to. Our tour! Wow So. There were professional packers. What does that have to do with the fact that you didn't open the boxes and take the stuff out I mean? Did it matter who put it in the box? Did you guys say to each other? It's not touched that professional packers put it in. No movers, the movers were allowed into put everything into boxes. My point is that because we didn't have time to pack up our own apartment all the crap that we were going to get rid of ended up being transferred to our new house. And you just haven't got around to. Condie, what was what was it? Marie CONDIE ING it. I didn't Murray Condo. It yet Maury Condo. What is it Tony is it? It's Murray Condo. Marie Condo. So you didn't get, so you haven't said Okay all right, so you got wet. We haven't out in your garage it. With. No, it's not when we are able to part with it. It's just that there are boxes that we haven't gone through because they're filled with stuff that we didn't WanNa bring here in the first place well. I have to go through the box if it was baby clothes. You can just throw the box away. Right again because we didn't pack these large boxes, we don't know all the things that are in it. Well, it'll just because baby clothes on top doesn't mean that there's not like a you know. Grandma's diamonds in the middle all right? Let me just say this listeners. If. Doug's body goes missing I know where to look. All Right Tony read is another one. This is from dotty. Michael's Lewis. Paint the bathroom I started seven years ago. So, dotty depend DEMOC started seven years ago. Boy, she's like your domino's. She saw this whole thing coming. I guess I, guess what she's saying. Tony Back we have if I'm right. And keep quiet if I'm not what she's saying is that she really thought that during this endemic when she finally get that done. Yes, no, no, no, no daddy seven years ago. Saw The pandemic coming. And says she started painting your bathroom. You're not reading between the lines and. I'm definitely not yeah and. She started seven years ago painting your bathroom. fucking huge bathroom, yeah! It's gotta be dotty if you need help in their. Yes you'll have to wait till the pandemic over. No, it sounds like the sounds like the bathroom is big enough that we could stand six feet apart and. Helped her paint right exactly, and we still have plenty of room on the walls to paint. That's going to be nice, right so dotty. Right back and let us know if there's a wing of your bathroom that we can help paint. What else you got Tony Way I. Wonder if Dottie has done that thing for the last seven years. which is what I do, which is put something on my list of things to do, and then when I don't do it, I just move it to the next day and move it to the next day. So? She could have like a whole pad of paper. Right that just already preprinted on the top of the page. Paint the bathroom. You. have to keep writing again. She could pre-printed To-do list because she never does. It is what you're saying. Dottie Michael's Lewis things to do list that comes already preprinted with painted bathroom at the top I like that. Right I do too Tony what else this is from an mcammond Mueller I wanted to open up my clarinet case to become the player. I was in sixty eight WHOA. Wow WHOA WHOA. WHOA. WHOA WHOA. WHOA We W! Oh, I think. We all know what happened there, which is that? An McCamman Muller was well on her way to becoming a world renown clarinet player when her husband. Took a job as the special investigator on the trump Russian collusion. Investigation, and and then she just lost her focus. That's what happened there. Because she's this is. This is Robert Muller's whites and McMahon now. Now Paula as much as I like to endorse your tendency to to relate almost everything that comes up to the trump administration and the Mahler investigation. And is quite clearly stating that she wants to become the player that she was back in nineteen, sixty eight. Yes, but she was on her way to becoming the player that she was back in one, thousand, nine, hundred, sixty, eight, when. The the Muller Investigations took over their house. You know what I mean. There were papers everywhere she could she just. Couldn't you know every he? No evidence of that is absolutely true and every time she tried to practice, you know. Robert Muller was like An. Could you shut the fuck up? I'm trying to go over Muller report. This is exactly what happened. Is exactly what happened. And I guess I. Guess, we did the name Muller, so. That's GONNA trick. Exactly what happened. As many women do put aside her own career, so that Robert Mueller could lean into the microphone at a critical point in American history and go. That is true. I don't recall. Factual. I'm sorry. I can't come in. And I would frankly I would rather instead of Robert Muller testifying I would rather an have come in and played the clarinet. I think we would have been further down the road. Tony what's next? This is from Siddiq Crumley I thought I would get around to working on a mosaic project. That's been sitting around for a couple of years. No luck so far I have listened to all hundred episodes so many of them multiple times at won't like this, but my favorite parts of number ninety nine in number, one hundred opening few minutes hearing what Pollen Bonnie had been up to. I was I was even mentioned either. I wasn't investigated. I. Differ that. No, that's fine, said absolutely fine. Views for a lot of listeners. Episodes Ninety, nine episode one hundred. Were beloved. Because Bonnie and I were able to? Hear what we'd been up to. Yeah a lot of people just cry out wanting to know what Bonnie and I've been doing are separate dwellings. Absolutely and you know I I think of them both as as as doug last episodes. In fact, one of the things are gone. He said when you said what what have you been up to? She said Bludgeoning Doug. was. Right. Oh, my God yeah I. Would we have forgotten that important? He'll just yet. This could solve the mystery right here now, she. She May or may not have been kidding. You know what I love about. This SID Crumley. I love the name Sid Crumley but be what I love about this. As a general rule when we asked Bonnie what she's been doing at the beginning of the show, we've been doing this since we've been all recording separately in our dwellings instead of in the studio we've been checking in with each of our little. Nobody listens to Paula poundstone cast so to speak, said Hey, what even up to what are you doing? No and Bonnie's traditional answer is. I'm laying on the couch. Laying on the bed. I'm laying on the family I'm looking at my feet. Yeah, but this for Sid. In episodes ninety nine and one hundred was riveting. For whatever reason it spoke to her, yeah, it spoke to said. Do you think it's a female said or a male said? There are out there Tony. I don't know I'm sorry could be a gender fluid, said we really have no, we have. No, we're not. We're not judge it's let's just call them. The I'm not good with the new pronouns by the way. How is this Sid Spelled Tony? S Y de. La Interesting yeah, but that could have just been spellcheck. Okay, absolutely yeah alright. Spell checking segment vicious. One last one kate eels. Row cheap better. Check that ear for lost items. Oh a check that era for lost item meeting? Means checks at year for for lost items. Because I think. Kate needs to check careers. I you know what I don't know. If we learned on this show, a couple of weeks ago might have even been episode ninety nine. Or one hundred. Vanni Burns had a terrible pain in her ear for about a week. And finally she went to a doctor and it turned out that she had. A piece of an earbud lodge deepen her ear canal and had had that for about a week. No, it was the whole, but no. It was a whole. It was a whole bunch. Okay the weird part about this story. Isn't that because I have to confess that after I left my ass off about that. I went to I was having a hard time fitting an earbud in my ear. At a at a section of something I was recording one day, and I couldn't figure out why the damn thing wouldn't go in, and then I realized I had the cover from another set of ear buds still in my ear so i. Really happened. It did really happen. It happened just last week I think, but then the let me ask you a really important question. Yeah Paula. How many days approximately was that thing lodged in there is no. It was a couple of. It was like a couple of minutes. It wasn't a couple of a couple of. Me But listening Bonnie if you don't have if you have clear enough ears. Did you hear that a couple of minutes? It wasn't a week during which police found herself in pain and bleeding from the ears, and having headaches and her jaw hurt, but apparently some minute some other listeners did right into our facebook page and say that they too had gotten like the airport cover, which by the way earbud cover makers. What are we discovering that they had got the earbud cover? Stuck in their ears, maybe not a great idea to use the earbud covers, but here's the difference between Bonnie's experience, and this may be what Grip Sid Crumley on the edge of their seat in episode, Ninety, nine or episode, one hundred in bunnies experience. It turned out. She was using her ear as a step of Marie con-going her home because. Underneath Instead of saying goodbye and giving away the items that were precious to her. Or had been formerly precious to her that she didn't need any more. What she was doing was putting them into her ear. Because underneath the earbud cover, they found a pool cue. and. A copy of little women, so she was just. Have a book and you're like well I read it already. Should I get rid of it or should I keep it so it can show people that I read it whatever I do, zoom call I need something behind me. But Bonnie was it was putting these things in her ear, and so that's really the difference between her and these other. An added a status a significant difference. Yeah, yeah, she didn't just have a little teeny piece of plastic she had she had a Goddamn Congressional library. There was the. The. Smithsonian was in Bonnie's ear. I think it was colonial history wasn't Bonnie. A Frontier. Frontier Wagon train. Your. Yolk in there that you might put over an oxygen. Accent Yeah and In Ox Yoke, you know bunny and I go long long long time without seeing each other. You know because we talked on the phone. That's how we do our business. We mostly just talk on the phone or email, but I mean we can go months if not years without actually seeing one another in the flesh, which is probably bad because I remember I saw her one time, and her head was like totally leaning over to the left, and now I realize. I should've said to her duet, is it? Is it me or do you have a yoke? Oxen Yoke and Last year. I used to use that line and bars, and stuff is an oxygen yolk in your ear, or you just happy to see me. And she would say to me. my left ear. Abby. All right well, nobody's. We want to thank you for for stepping up and telling us what you haven't done. That was really entertaining. I can't wait. I can't wait till they get these things done and have that good feeling. I can't wait to see that. That shiny bright painted bathroom that Daddy Michael's. Lewis has it's going to be great. It's going to be fantastic and we can celebrate by all dancing to the clarinet tunes of and McCamman Muller. Yeah mother report singing a different plane, a different dude now. When we come back, we'll see how popular we are. In the American minor outlying islands plus God help us. We're going to debut the Bonnie Burn spinoff podcast. That's all coming up on. Nobody listens to balanced down. A. Cat The week is Winston of Columbia Maryland. A. Better help the world's largest counseling service has asked me Paula poundstone to talk to you about something. That's really important, which is your mental health and how to reach out and get help? You wouldn't hesitate to go to a doctor for professional care. If you had a broken arm while your mental health deserves the same, if not in some ways more attention, it should better help will assess your. 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Come up here Bunny Burns L. K.! What's a little difficult to bring me up to the Mike since I'm sitting here talking into the phone? Right here in my bed. Well, let's be honest. The illusion. That I want you to take that I am an antagonistic hosts or anything. No, you're not a host yet, we have. We haven't gone to your podcast Chabad Shalom bunny. Botulism yourself guest. Well he'll. Yeah. That et! Now, Bonnie. We're going to start your podcast in just a minute, but I understand that you have chosen. You've chosen to a guest to interview on on the on the first episode of Your Podcast, have you? I am this trial run and who I've chosen interview. Is You Adam? Felber Adam felber, who went to the Tufts University? Don't start your podcast. Setting this up I wanted disapprove lewd. He went okay I've seen university. He majored in philosophy. It's not true, but that's what you have on your facebook page that I majored in philosophy. Wow that's interesting. You major in I double majored. It was philosophy English. But don't interview me now. Wait until wait until we started the podcast Bonnie. If you've chosen a name for your podcast, either way Adam well, both both both philosophy and English pretty much cash cows. Sure. But duller my room point yes. Okay I'll go first. About to be the host and my you. Know what? My family, what my dad would have said is Yam. What's that going to prepare you for? He wasn't wrong. He wasn't wrong. So Bonnie. Have you chosen to China for your podcast? Okay well this week. If I'm going with TRICIA Saint George's title, nobody crinkles like Captain Craig. That's a nice. Nobody crinkles like captain, crinkle I. I like that I would have preferred a crinkle in time, but it's not my choice. So Bonnie. Here's what we're GONNA. Do we're GONNA WE'RE GONNA sign off. And through the magic of post production will then bring up your your theme song, and then the podcast is yours. You're the host, okay? Okay well. Then here we go. Here's the thing I wasn't really planning on doing this. Formerly I thought I would just. Just kind of like jump in and start interviewing. You know I never really owned up to that. I would have a show, so my job is to manage Paula poundstone, but yeah, well now you gotta show, and you're going to have to say hello and welcome everybody at the end of the theme song, which starts, Bonnie get ready. Which starts now? Okay. That did that that that that that that De. I already ate. It's me kept critical. Okay, I just want to explain. Here's where the genesis of this was. Was that my idea? Nobody started writing in and saying I think Captain Crinkle should have a post show and I will say that if I did have a post show. My expertise is kind of behind the scenes. I talked to everybody and I kind of get the more personal angle, not the professional like the kind of questions. You guys ask them on the air. This is exactly the way Cavite used to open his show. Okay so Adam. Come on up to the Mike and MI yeah. Hundred me. Just introduce you you, so, Adam! That's not introducing said you went to tufts okay. Ladies I don't nobody's I'm really glad you're joining me after the show. It's a pleasure to have you here. Why don't we welcome? The CO host of nobody listens to Paula poundstone Adam. FELBER. Thank you! It's a pleasure to be here in honored to be the first guests on your podcast. Okay so Adam, yes. Show the other week that you'd been working with me for three and a half years, and I know almost nothing about you. What would you say is the biggest thing that I don't know about you? The biggest thing that you don't know about me. Well. Yeah Like the most important thing that I don't know the most important thing about me that you don't that you don't like the biggest thing. Dispel. Picking. fucking hosting I don't I. DON'T WANNA I. Don't WanNa tour I'm your guess I want to torpedo your show pony, but I've heard before that. FELBER is a tough interview. Oh I think one of the most important things that you don't know about me. As I have created and directed of riot of really interesting Improv, comedy shows including two different Improv three different improv musicals. So He's Adam is finding about himself as he's talking to. You I thought it was too, and that's. Three support. You are really getting some interesting. Because in the past he's always. To and then today he discovered that it was three. So you're getting an interview. No one else has ever gotten. Okay You said on Broadway Improv shows. No improv improvised Broadway musicals, but not on. Broadway was just off Broadway. One of them. I'm Brad Way off Broadway. Off Broadway Broadway style musicals improvised fully improvised. I hate to say this and no disrespect to hearing impaired people, but it gets harder and harder to be an interviewer if you can't hear the guest. I tuned out for. You out. You actually said that tune out. You. Ask Me one question and he. Didn't even get the. Question of your interview without losing interest. No I was just thinking for one minute about something. Let's go this. You said we're GONNA have to stop and focus on this because this is. Terry gross you're fucking out. I do you. Know offend you hear the raw vulnerability in this in this host, the idea that she just confesses right upfront. Second question guest I just tuned out is paid no attention to what you said. We we. Come on the show with beg to be. Heard Broadway. And to be honest I was like. He did a show on. What's really? That I was thinking Oh. Did He say off Parkway? Head neither at the time I just said musicals sakes. I already know that you're very test. You Mentally Adam talked you mentally went down the rabbit hole of trying to decide if he was a bullshitter. Your not, is that right? No. I don't think he ever bullshits. I think that He. I, don't I'll just move on okay. I'm your subject go ahead. Okay, so. Let's see all right so adam. When you were like, how old were you when you went on your first date? My first real date date, yeah! Wow. I would say that the first time it was really really date would be seventeen. Seventeen. And I learned the true. To ask if I was bald then. This is your podcast I'm going to answer your question okay. Nobody I wasn't bawled when I was seventeen. Sorry Adam no I mean that. No adult me Adam. Don't take offence. She wants interviewed. Eisenhower asked him the same fucking question. I think he looked great blood. Just posted a picture you with. And I think you look much better bald. Thank you thank you, yeah, my sister, who the picture of the way my hair look when I was much younger and. I had a gigantic and long head of hair at one point all the way down to the small of my back. which by the way? Is Listeners. Don't know what you look at. The small of his back is like. Three quarters of the way up his back. Was it hard for you to get the nerve up to ask her out like the jeff spend days getting your nerve. No because you know I was never like an ask people out kind of thing. It was sort of like we'd be hanging out and then we. Become really obvious that we were sort of becoming boyfriend and girlfriend, and then, and then we proposed going places together so I was never in a position I hardly ever in my life where I was just sort of like high. Would you go out with me? That just was never my style, so you were halfway through a date before you would tell the girl that was a date. Yeah Yeah. They weren't really dates. I was never a data so much as a hangar outer. I understand yeah. I was always dating people that I was friends with usually doing shows with working with. Maybe there are people who'd meet me after shows and want to come out for a drink that kind of thing, yeah, and then you put a move on him similar, or they put a move on me I always really shy about that are usually to be honest. Would L- let women make the first move? Wow well, a lot of women don't trust. The Guy who did the small of his back is halfway up is back. Probably why? Self conscious about it, yeah! With? Zero Lot of pressure atom in family for you to get good grades. Yes a pretty yeah, I mean. I was I always got good grades and I think the pressure was really more on my older brother and my younger sister sort of the. Why won't you get the grades that Adam gets kind of thing? Oh. So, you couldn't have just loafed around. Know I looked around I was a really. Really good test taker, so for all the things. I didn't get done in school I'd always redeem myself by doing really well On tests. That would that was really it Okay, so you know by the time they say like really smart kids can be precocious. We precocious. yeah, I guess I was yeah. I was precocious. He was This is something people don't know about him. He was on the city council when he was four. Well to be fair I was I did not share the city council until I was six. Yeah, right so. He was the guy who opposed the law on long. Island that there be. Juice benches. Just out in the juice juice prejudices out in the neighborhood. That was that was Adams. Don't Adam when you annoyed your mom. Assuming you did, did you? She was annoying. Did she have a thing she'd say to you? Know that this actually is going to lead to a pretty interesting story I hated being taken places. By mom after school like having to go shopping to the grocery store and And wherever else she had to go, so I would annoy her by pretending to be. Wow this is terrible. I would annoy her by pretending to be really dumb or abused. Public thank abused Oh. Yeah, like like you do well like one day. I was really mad at her. We were at the liquor store and was buying a like all the wine for a party and I had already asked her mom just leave me home. I don't WanNa comment you made me come and at the front counter and liquor store. The The lady said Would you like a lollipop? And I said. Oh a lollipop, thank you. We never get these at home because mommy spends all our money on wine. And then I. Turn to my mom and I said Look Mommy lollipops lollipop. and. She got this frozen smile on her face, and said under her breath. I'm going to kill you. Yeah, I did that to her all the time. It was bad. So. If you, what do you think you biggest one of your biggest assets? I only have a few more and then captain clincal a be winding up. You're doing a great job either fantastic I i. don't know what my my biggest asset is I. I I mean how? How do any of us know what are what our biggest asset is I think I must have some sense though. I'm I'm I'm I'm a good writer? Good writer. Okay. What do you think if you could change one thing about yourself? What would it be I? You know what everybody says this, but it's absolutely true. I would I would be I would be thinner. Here's the thing I. wonder if that's what I. Like like a lot of people when I was in my twenties I was super fit. And I haven't been in in several years and I I. I would like to be several years, so you're twenty seven now. I'm twenty nine. Wow! Boy You've let yourself go. Okay, some of these are kind of Corny, but I was just curious. What would be your fantasy life? My fantasy life always living yeah. Yeah I'm living in. This fantasy life. She's on nobody. Listen SUPPO-. POUNDSTONE with us. Are you kidding me? I gotTa tell you. My fantasy life is pretty much exactly what I'm doing now just with more money. More work but I. Say That I I love my family. I love where I live. I love all the things I do I don't have. There's not a lot that I fantasize about that isn't. Just. Having more of this Adam. Really. BUNNIES podcast. Jesus Hello Hey. Out of. Your fucking Fan. That I am so touched, I really I mean I've always loved you I, have really always love you so much out of it for you to say that just thrilled with us. Is All your life? Might Migrant. I mean you know. I. Call it all. Add that just really touches my heart honestly. Ties Fan, I feel bad. I wish I could have gotten over there last weekend. You know, but there's you know. Is, there's a virus and so we're not you know supposed to. Be, you know. Around other people at ship Oh man. This is really a moment where you just say you love you. Be with me and I just want to say I love. You know I don't. Know because I love Tony, NATO, and I love Game Crinkle, but I'll tell you and I love you the only thing. That show is pounds Jesus Bench. Hey. I don't care if you aren't caller number eighty one. You're caller number zero with me. If you keep up that language, Mr. POUNDS TRIUMPHS Close I can almost taste the air drive my fish. Can I ask you to say goodbye? Creek I love like to be on your show if you. Love to be on your show. Thanks good loved as. I should've let you get this call. What's a auto show again? Think, you can crinkle with Geffen wrinkle. What is it, was it? Like that. You think you can quibble with tempted no after Gulf. Here fucking. If you can't fucking hear anything. No rank your. Just. Hang on Def comedy jam. Deaf gravity. Thank you Mike Boom Boom. A Little hang out I'm sorry. You know not around a lot, but does good talking to you mad dog thanks for. Being with me. I didn't but by Hey Bonnie. You're doing a great job or you're done. You want to wrap it up a couple of more. Even though they're kind of sappy but I just feel like you know you might have some wisdom to impart to our listener so okay here we go. So this is. Which is trying to find my little note here? Okay, so what do you think will be the most important piece of advice that you give bass? What advice for what? But like when he's growing up going up, what do. You. Mean my son. Is that his name. Yeah, it is no. No. No I didn't hear I didn't hear you. Correctly I I think. I had a oxen yolk in my ear I. Most important advice, I can give my son. Like the most important piece of advice job, give him. While he's growing up. I I know what the most important one is. That I've given my done. Yeah, what's that? Don't put stuff in your ears. Trust your instincts and I've tried to really foster self esteem while she's been going up. I think that if you don't have that, you're really gonNA have a problem in life. Yeah. That's good advice, yeah! This is fodder for a lot of laughs well. Back! The fuck camping. Really serious questions. You really funny. A host. You don't want to foist up blame like that. You save that for the White, house? No I just feel that our listeners listen to you every week and they might be interested to hear. What you have to say like yeah. Thinker way well. Look, it's your podcast. Right so the advice I would get the most important advice I could give. My son would probably be to. Go Easy on himself. He's a super motivated guy. And I and I worry sometimes that like you know he he's he's. He's hard on himself. And what the what media advice for Viviana? My daughter. You know it's hard. It's hard to shape someone seven years old. She's she's being who she wants to be and. I feel I. Kids are kind of at A. Perfect in some ways when they're seven and eight before the hammer of conformity comes down on them so. Right, now I want to just keep being viviers, l.. Why are we thinking Your Life Philosophy? But I think these are two shitty questions that will probably take out and at a dime fascinating. Yeah you want to say that to your guests. Now I think I'm gonNA close it. I'm trying to think what my last question should wait I'm just I'm just fascinated Adam. Shape or someone I love that. Yeah, keep keep that idea up. The Someone yeah listen no nature nurture yeah. Yeah. Nurture nurture shows. That sounds like a couple of failed parents commiserating tomato I'm trying to. Think I'll go with this. which is not funny either but okay. We know you've been very successful writer in the business including. I believe that you were wrote on Belmar for eleven years. I'm sorry. You faded out there for a minute while you're asking, but yes. I definitely wrote on Bill Maher for eleven years. While you know no slouch thing. Do you have any advice for people that want to? Make living. As Writers cerrone on the television and movie. Diskette Pencil Co... Get a pencil out. No past, but also get a pencil out odd. Couple things I'd say. In TV, and movies one thing there's a lot of social stuff involved in being a writer for television in particular so I'm taking Improv class. Your communication skills are more important than you think. If you want to be a a television writer and number two is. Your own stuff. Don't wait until somebody gives you a job with the best of your resources. Make stuff right scripts. Put on sketch shows the make short films make stuff never stopped making stuff. That sounds like really good advice, and it's very similar to the advice. I give people. When they want to know about breaking into the business so Adam. I'm hoping after this little conversation that we've had you know. One of the things that happens to me is every time I. sit down to text you or send you an email. I always know that the reaction's going to be i. didn't understand or I. don't agree. Well you might WanNa take an Improv class Bonnie for that communicates. Funny that's I disagree with you quite a bit, but that's that's not true. I? Agree with you quite a bit. Then not understanding is absolutely true. So I'm hoping maybe that this. You know we've got to know each other a little bit better. I'm hoping that Captain Crinkle has brought a little information and insight to. Audience and this is captain clincal signing off from clincal winkles and crinkle quick goals. Say To my audience audio. My God Bonnie I wanna say something right away I. That was not even half the disaster. I thought it was going to be that was that was Abeille conducted interview Bonnie. You really not compliment. Listeners just. Just. Just in case you WanNa know listeners that is. That's a little preview of what the captain. Critical spinoff may look like when it comes to be. Ano-. Performing Jones. Do What do you mean by Jones? You Know I. Don't know that I. Mean for it. All right. So, there might not be. It's been, but there might be a spin off. Around the world with Tony Anita, Hall. I am so excited because I hear. We're doing fantastic in a lot of the minor outlying islands. That's. Why Bonnie Burns again, thank you so much. And let's bring up Tony. I, really enjoy job. Very. Left. I, love, your. Philosophy when people ask you is the same as what Adam said so usually what you say to them as I don't Know Adam. That's good. That's good advice right there. Go ahead, ask him. I miss that where was that? Devil! I did? I would love to know. What does that like that that make Bonnie such a great manager. What's going out on a limb? Something was that when you tuned out as well. No I didn't. Get Him. You know what twenty years ago I wouldn't have had the nerve to say dad. Would've just gone along with whatever policy said Oh yeah. Oh my God twenty years later. You feel comfortable shitting on a drug. Thank God, this is when rocky talks to purchase meredith and Burgess Meredith. And setting up fake fights for you all this time. You're really not a fighter at all. This is exactly. Laughing at my should for twenty years when she didn't really hear what I. Said years ago, so we. Saw the first six year. I'll tell you down poundstone, not funny. I'd pay them I paid him laugh. You. Just talked to a regular on, and they'll rip shred I. Never I never even heard what you said for Christ. Sakes why you misunderstood what? I. Understood what you know you didn't. I said twenty years ago. I wouldn't have the nerve to go. Oh, I didn't get what the joke was. Hold on a second. Will make it easier takes this shovel. Yeah boy, you know you're you're you're you're almost done to China? Keep going. We may see the the demise of me on this podcast. Duggleby small. You. If you call Paul's representation year like well. She's not my cup of tea, but Burger for you. Frankly. Never made me laugh once, but some people like her. compal you an hour and I'll tell you what Paul doesn't. Our I listened to about thirty minutes of it and I get about fifteen but back. I tune out. Five. But she, some people like yeah. I. Don't dislike the people who like her, but I don't really have any. That's not. Oh you do. People like me I. Think I get it now. I. told, you this for now I can tell you I. Don't get Shitty, you say. South. I am so excited about the personal. The power and the range that Bonnie has taken in her whole life to finally be able to tell me. She does not find you. We! For about twenty seven years, and she's finally saying it's not so much that she doesn't find me funny, it's. She doesn't really listen to half of it and she didn't get the rest of it, so that's. No I can see where you didn't think you were saying that about me. What you were trying to say was that you've been. You've grown a lot over the years. I was just a prop. and. I was finally able to stand up to your pounds. Yeah, you're not funny. Yeah, that was. This was really a so I think when people listen to the captain crinkle show. It's a journey of personal development of buddy, just telling off all the people in her life. Because let's face it after that very touching interview with me, she revealed. Adam. You've always treated me like shit and I'm hoping that this. Field. Out. Carry on top of the Sunday for me. So long captain crinkle show is just about forging forward next. In fact, her next episode. She's GonNa interview a guy she used to go out with. Thank you and now that we know each other. Hopefully, there'll be less of a douchebag when we come back. And by the way, Adam doesn't know any more about you other than that. You've become empowered as a result of this you interviewing. Oh my God. Oh my God. And please stay tuned for next week's captain crinkle episode when Bonnie Interviews or second grade teacher. You never believed in me. Settling scores with captain crinkle all right I'm going to insist that we move on now. Tonita Hall, I can't I noticed that you. You've been waiting in the wings wearing that pepple now for a long time and We. have to go to a break. No. Told that we told no, we don't. We've had two breaks already. We Listen We. Stopped talking. Why you can't why? We can't give you your own show once you start. There's no shutting you up. Thank. You should take. A year Adams the elegant body. It's as if the interview never took place. Oh! My God we're all. We're a little. While I felt like voided that thing that has. Can we try to do something, right? Now on the, Interview here we are again. Tony Anita a whole God. Up and tells you. Now. Good Luck Tang all right. I'm going to call an audible right here because we are really deep into this. Right now, so Tony. Your favor. Issue Goes Outer Islands. Are GonNa be the thing that we've been meaning to get to next. No thank of. All the people. Bonnie could interview on those islands. Okay. All right but. I just want to say. I just say I don't know how this fits into a show in any way. Yes. It was like we were driving down the road and the wheels fell off slowly. You've had that empowerment and that development where you could finally say it after we stand up to pound twenty seven years. You didn't understand most of what I said and you really just. Said before and said before when I didn't get a yeah. Okay, but I'm glad to know that it. Yeah yeah, exactly taken semi nerve. Yeah, all right well listeners when we come back next week I'm sure we might be talking about the United States. Minor outlying islands, and our popularity there i. Suspect that we might have at this point. Lost that one listener. Paula poundstone. How's your merchandise? Tien. You know my merchandise is selling like hotcakes in the minor outlying islands. Call Baker Island. and. Howland Island Jarvis Island in Johnston Atoll Kingman Reef Midway at Tall Palmira Tall Pylon Paulo. We're going to. Yes, we're going to get to that later. How's Your Business? Well. This is going to get to step where the poundstone pushy pillows are really selling is these minor outlying islands. and. They're all visiting Paula POUNDSTONE DOT COM or they not. Yes, at Paula POUNDSTONE DOT COM Adam. You can get the. Pussy pillows which are a rectangular pillow homemade I might add stuffed with fresh catnip, and with a catch up on one side and on the other side. When you order them online, there's a space for you to rate your cat's name and I'll autograph it to your cat. They have gromit. That you could tie string around it and entice your cat further with it, so the postal pussy pills are available at Paula, poundstone, dot, com, and also new to Paula. POUNDSTONE DOT com are ex laughter videos. A couple of series of videos to lift your spirits during these days and If you've tried to share with your friends that you're nobody and you've had to say to them. We'll I click on this because they don't get to a podcast. 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Chris Broussard on Jimmy Butler, Enes Kanter, Ice Cube, and D'Angelo Russell

In The Zone with Chris Broussard

56:36 min | 1 year ago

Chris Broussard on Jimmy Butler, Enes Kanter, Ice Cube, and D'Angelo Russell

"Yeah. As long as my Tony's the coaching gonna play how he plays which is one dominant ball handler doing everything. And I don't think he's confrontational enough to go to James harden. It'd be like, look, we gotta change some things up. How will say if the ngelo Russell like what better places to go in LA? You're never gonna get the Daniel Russell that you saw in Brooklyn last year. That made the all star you never gonna see that with Anthony Davis, LeBron James because he just will not have the fall in order to showcase what he can do. Chris Broussard here and welcome to the brand new who thorn, FOX podcast, this podcast will give you your daily dose of all things NBA from Fox Sports, including the best content from skipping Shani, Nick. Right. Plus, special guests fresh NBA content from myself postgame interviews from NBA stars around the league and much much more. Don't forget to subscribe, and leave a five star review, Jimmy Butler's, next address could be in Houston reporting the rockets want to acquire Butler and a sign and trade deal when free agency starts on Sunday, the rockets don't have caps faced outright sign them. So any deal would likely have to include some combination of appel up DJ Tucker. Eric Gordon clear joined by NDA this one analyst. Chris broussard. Chris, so many dynamic personalities already on the rockets. Do think Jimmy Butler would fit in Houston. No foolishness unless you unless Chris. Was the guy trade boot, which I don't see happening and even then I have my doubts it would be a similar situation. What you have now with Chris Paul. Here's the deal as long as my Tony's the coach and gonna play how he plays which is one dominant ball. Handler doing everything. It was the same with Steve Nash. He was more of a passer than harden, but he dominated the baller Jeremy Lin when his little two months of great success dominate the ball. This is how Mike Tony coaches. And I don't think he's confrontational enough Goto James harden and be like, look, we gotta change some things up. So I think they're essentially going to play the same way, and Jimmy Butler is not a spot up three point shooter shot. Thirty four percent from three last year. He shoots for his career thought he'd shot thirty nine percent last Sean, on catch and shoot maybe catching shoe. But but overall, he was thirty four from three and he only attempted fewer than three a game. So he's not. You're not gonna just put him. At the line and say Jimmy do you think because he's one he's not going to be the Jimmy Butler. We all know in love. And that's a very good player. He's going to be neutered to some degree. If you brought in a more traditional coach, who's gonna put Chris Paul at the one James harden into, to Jimmy Butler at the three and play a different style. Then it might make some rights. But look, this is typical Darryl more. He's a good GM but he's overrated. Every people think he's the best thing in the NBA. He goes after big names, regardless of chemistry, regardless of fit, regardless of any of the human elements. Thank you. Well, I mean, I don't I remember how you guys felt about Chris Paul. But most people were like houses going to work if we skip it how they go play together. When they beat the ball and you see now now that said, if I'm Houston, I'm for the most part standing, Pat. And I'm I may make a tweak here there. Trotted dan. Tony the tweet the offense a little bit. But only, Golden State beat you and they're not gonna be the same. So run it back. I mean we've seen the Detroit of Isaiah Thomas. Michael Jordan's bulls. Teams have often had to take their law school, Gordon get to the championship. So this is typical overreaction from narrow more alleyway you, you were after desert go his skill. Did you get a transcript? Show. Watch. So I just because today you just always at every day. Oh, wait. You're the only that was my birthday. You're the only person in the known world who didn't know. Oh you've announced it. Every today by birthday. Let's turn your turn. I love you. Chris Broussard, but I can't tell you how much I disagreed with every point you made that's a first because usually, I give you like that would. Not today because it's not your birthday. They are stuck with Chris Ball. They are not willing to trade that forty odd million dollar contract. You're just not. And they're stuck with a guy who at times last year to me, look like a shell of his New Orleans self that guy who could just dominate it about six tall and his first couple years in the league. He is to me over the hill, just slightly over it, but he's over it and he has lost a step. So now you say, run it back, it's going to be the same song third fourth verse in. It's not going to end. Well, because it's pretty clear. These two are do not invite him anymore in I'm not sure you can just roll the ball back out there and say you guys just figuring out because there's no Kevin Durant. Just go figure it out because we still got cappella, we still got Eric Gordon and we still got a chance. Maybe we can figure it out this time and muddled through and make it work because it's so open door winnable this year. To me, Jimmy Butler is just what the doctor ordered for this team right now. And as I told Shannon, it might be Dr Freud, or Dr Phil or somebody, but they need some doctor, douse. Maybe you quack okay Jimmy Butler is his own man. And he is a leader for better or for worse. And if you put him with a bunch of young timber wolves, it's for worse because he's just going to run them all out of the locker room because he's not going to put up with their baby nece their childishness, and they're not gonna like it when he pushes back on them. And they rebelled against Jimmy Butler in this case, you have to veteran stars one's a superstar ones. I don't know if Chris was over a superstar. I'm not sure about that. But he's a star hall of fame all Famer. And you got a guy who's gonna walk in the locker room and say enough of that, and who will get in both their faces and become the leader. This team does not have Chris could have been the leader in his younger days. But he can't back it up on the floor anymore. Dan, Tony is the opposite of a leader. I when I listened to his sideline huddles when they showed the snippets on TV it's just like that. Nobody's listed. Everybody's looking at their shoes. We gotta get a stop guys. Really reminds me of guys the Lewis who used to be university coach. He was they just said, he just rolled the ball practice and said, you guys this Dunkin damn. That's what he used to say. Say just don't the damn thing right? Okay. So he's not going to be a leader. But Jimmy Butler would would be a catalyst here. He would shake it up in this team doesn't have to me a closer and I'm talking about on defense or offense and he can be that guy. He is not afraid to take and make big shots. And he is definitely not afraid to take whoever's on the other team that needs to get stopped in the last four or five minutes and take him on and maybe take him out. They don't have that guy. They don't have that intangible in their if not talking about a bag. I mean he's not the offense player, but he's ever been he'll battle right? He will battle, but there's something about Jimmy Butler. He'll make the play on the guy the block more like IGA dollar play at six seven. And long in, in the one cherry on top. I forgot to throw in the opening block new show. He is he grew up in the Houston area tumble. It's a suburb, Houston. So, so you're kind of. He would feel better about coming home in the fans would feel better about, oh, we got one of ours back. Yeah. He didn't want to be at home. I don't know if Jimmy does or not. But I look, I think you're right about his personality, but I think it'd be World War three. Okay. Maybe I would clear the air, I have to be a fight and train. I we talked about this to open this show. I sit it might come to a knockdown drag out literally punches might get thrown whoever loses is going to feel like gnome is going to go into show. We beat me, we gotta fight everyday till I will. Got to get up. So. Okay, we'll work. Well, Chris Lowe hill. If you run it back, it's going to fester. It's, it's going to start to rear its head a little bit. And then it's just going to explode again between Chris and record as saying they're going to be to Phoenix or the Sacramento Kings, where they get close. They're never quite good enough to win the old. I agree with you. That they're not. I don't think they win it, but I wouldn't make a wholesale change. Let's go. But I'm looking at you say, okay, brain. It's hard for me, the fathom of scenario where you got two guys bickering and you bring third guy in there. And it makes a better. Right. They're not gonna make any better. You need a peacemaker, major referee. Sometimes it needs. Explode in training, camp and get it out of the way. I've seen situations where they got it over with and training camp. And all of a sudden they made peace with each other in start, if they do start to have conflict during a game. This is the guy who just jumped Millsap. I don't think he does that. I don't think he just for the greater good. Hey guys, come on. I think he stirs it up, just like Chris fosters. On the what he do today. I still I don't like the ru- running back recipe next year. I just don't like it and you have a chance to go win at all. You have the pieces. Now gin we're going back and forth about who would have to get traded. They have to keep Capella to me in this myth and say it's an about him being involved, but, but there are three ESPN was three to have to go. If Eric Gordon and PJ go, I'm okay with that. I still think you need somebody to do the windows. Do the dirty work. I agree with you. I would first of all, if I'm Houston I wanna keep cappella, if I'm Philadelphia. I don't want. You don't. Embiid and Simmons down near I would want heir Gordon if for Philadelphia heir, Gordon PJ Tucker. And then maybe you bring back to bias hairs because they need shooting. I think that would be really good for them and try to get a third team involved hill Houston, go get a point guard in to be a great win. Darren collison, or somebody that is a good point guard that can run the offense. If I need them to okay. All right. Like I do like Jimmy Butler in Houston, given their circumstances. I think they're good enough Golden State crippled as they are pardon the pun, but they this is their opportunity skill. This is their opportunity if, if he if they're Amora has assembled a team as great as he thinks he has has told us every opportunity stick a Mike in front of him staying, Pat. One of my favorite guys Kanter, Portland Trail blazer pending free agent. You are so fascinating because you played with Durant. You've played it in New York, then you went to a small market in Portland and it was a perfect fit. So let's start about that. They get nurtured back. Meaning you could make an argument there. Don't wanna double pay for the same skill set. Does it concern you that this team that adopted you within an hour that you are family day one? They may not be able to afford you, like you said from day on the open their on. Gimme a warm. Welcome. Well, I, I like fifteen games with them nurk was playing, and I was coming from the banshee was an amazing fit. I don't have any problem with come off the bench because all I care about is just go out there and winning. So I mean, it's the decision they need to make that if they can afford me or not. But I mean everybody whole world knows that how much a love played for Portland and how much I love the city what was really nice this year. That Damian Lillard finally was a national story. He's been great in Portland this year. He became a national story. We all went, yeah. He's great. And now we all acknowledge it give my audience a sense of what he is. Like when we don't see him on the court what, what makes him special. Well, I think what makes me specialists. He makes himself better, and he makes everybody better on them. That's all making really special. And I mean I know he was an amazing player, but I didn't know what kind of person he was before I get supported by once. I get to Portland. I'm like, that's why this organization is so professional amazing because always us with him. And just how you Trish players his teammates. I remember in the locker room. Everybody has so much confidence because of them, and what it feels so comfortable display with Bain because he's actually every nice guy. Yeah. They always say, you're as good as your star in the NBA he'll set the tone for the locker room. If your stars good dude sharing caring and a hard worker. Everybody else feels they have to work equally hard. That's exactly ways man. Yeah. All right. So let's, let's talk about Kevin Durant, so you played and we all change in life young, Kevin Durant didn't have to titles young, Kevin Durant, isn't the Kevin Durant. Now he has changed evolved. He still a little needy for me. I don't think he should go to New York. That's my takeaway. You played in New York. You know, James Dolan, you know, the dysfunction, do you think he goes to New York? And how does it work if he does, if I was? I don't get a love New York allowed the Knicks you know, the love the fans, MSG, and everything is cool. But I think I seem going to Brooklyn kyri, because I mean, I know Katie in, I know his personnel, and everything this media might be a little harsh ornament with Neo because if you're if you're going to if you're not winning, they're gonna blame you Anna, but I think I think I feel like I see him going to, to Brooklyn. I wish I wish you go to Nick's, but I go seem to Brooklyn. Do you think he could play? Well, I mean, why, why do you think he would give up all that money like is he unhappy and Golden State? I never say he's on happy. I was just wanna the title and everything, but I think all that injury stuff and everything, I think kinda little mad at the warriors. And I think I think it'll be, I think Brooklyn will be a good fit for when you we talk about money on the table. So I want you to talk as a professional. Athlete. I if Kalis my son or my client, I could never say, give up fifty million, I could never tell the professional because I know the billionaire guy Todd. He not giving money back. Every in fact, I think the billionaires at the top of these leagues. Love it. When players feel loyalty, they gotta get tiles and the owners like s save more money. Could you give up fifty million dollars guarantee, if I am, if I was in their shoes, and if I'm if I'm that color of a player, I'm gonna make money over in those moments. So I if I am trying to win I will give them much money to go to team that, where I can play and be happy and play basketball that I love. But because I know if my Tim do good, I'm gonna make money from endorsements. So so winnings. Most important you to me. Yes, we as more important when you're on a losing basketball team. Is it a miserable life? Even though your paychecks bay, tell me I, I had a stretch with the Knicks with a whole month. We only go one win. And I remember I was seeing everybody. My teammates fessed in a locker millages. You know that everybody worked so hard in love with their for basketball, just not having fun. You know, the basketball that you love the doing your job, just not becoming fun anymore. You just don't wanna go to practice because you lose in every. Game. It was just so frustrated. And it was just so bad. But I think it everything, so would winning. Just once I get to portent man, I was like my life changed. You know, I was just hours. Just a different person. Not a player different happier happier. Yes. So you went you didn't you fasting during the playoffs. Yes, I do. And asked about this. So you didn't eat anything or drink anything. Okay. For how long for special because we're importing seventeen hours. Okay. So was there a gain that day? Yes, he was very was then were to now was this religious? Yes. Okay. So do my month of Ramadan. Okay. So you're month of Ramadan. You went seventeen hours nothing. No water a water. No drinking as a professional athlete. Did you? So I do it once or twice a week do the season. So my buddies used to doing it. And the fact that I just wanted to go out and show. The whole world that game of basketball is mental physical. So if you put your mind on a day, you can do it just because, oh, I just wanted to show the whole world. My mind was so sharp, and I was like, there's no way I can go out there and play bed because they're going to blame the Ramadan. And I just went out there man, just just pay attention to little details. And then no water. I remember actually. So we were to water break that this war guy. Just keeping me water. I'm like, I'm good. I'm good. You know, because he didn't know us fasting and enough decided why don't you why don't you? I'm fast in that, man. I'm sorry. And I remember my team is drinking wars, and Gary's right next to my. That looks good. What I I was looking at the time I was kickbacks in the trainers, how many hours live is like two hours, one hour break your during halftime, our just eating peanut butter and jelly sandwich. Some bananas. It was fine. Good for you mental strength. Okay. So I heard a terrible thing. I love sign Williams. Okay. He can pass. He's biggie strong. I think he's got a magnetism you think he's overrated. Say you can say it, okay? So if you're lucky over hyped, I feel like he's Julius Randle with hops. He's Julius Randle with. By the way, you're not the first person who said this also players. It was like scared to say, but, you know, me to say anything, so Julius Randle, but more vertical. Yes. Exempt how would you defend him? Well, we'll just defend probably just I'll just let him shoot. You know. But I if his shot his definitely could become a health Famer, but I mean it's, it's all in his his hand. He just needs to put the work and then just go out there and just just show the whole world. You know, it's interesting. You play Denver and beat them. Denver was really young Toronto won the final. They were really old. I think there's incredible value to players. Twenty nine thirty thirty one in this league. I think it's a man's league. In fact, I'm a big believer that college kids should stay in college for two years for mental growth, physical growth. A lot of these guys come in after one year they fall apart physically. They're dealing with you, and your thirty five pounds heavier and stronger than a college center. So when you look at all these veterans, and you watch the draft how veterans like you you've been in the NBA now or ninth year. How do you look at rookies? Oh man. Just just to abuse them on the floor. We wait for him to come through the league. And just because of the hype him so much and this and that, and they the rookie there are already saying he's going to become hall of Famer he hasn't played a minute an NBA court yet. So. They were just hype him so much. I feel like our veterans just cannot wait for them to just play against them. And whenever we play against okay. Welcome to the man's leak. Allow Kobe Bryant said is NBA Noboa's allow. I love that covered over every time I go out there. It's a man's league man. So just go arranges share shoulder. Walk onto welcome to the league. Oh, by the way, I couldn't have you on if I didn't ask about Westbrook. I'm very critical of Westbrook. From last year. I'm not I don't hate him. I think he's over hyped. I think he's hard to play with. I think there's a certain rigidity to them that makes it difficult. He's had the last couple years, the playoffs have been ugly, if I said to you tomorrow, you could play with Durant again or Westbrook. Who did you enjoy playing with more? The question almost I the question almost every week really every week from somebody, the kids asked me about the best union basketball camps, or just some media guy asked me this, and that I will pick respirate any day really. I just I just had so much fun playing with him. And people keep saying, I know you just you don't like it as much, but he's actually an heart to play with man. Like literally whenever you in his team is just you cannot take any position at games and possession of every time like you are just make gay fires y'all. Guess you're ready for forty game Durant. Don't get me wrong. I'm gonna have is he's one of the best in the whole world. But of that, from the fake respite cannot believe that either way you're wearing a herd shirt. Can we, we see this, the loyalty to the brain loyalty and isn't that amazing? I heard you have a present for me. I just I do. I know you're, you're them for six and a half years. Yeah. And. I've been called a zero so you got me a double zero. They thank you very. You're the best NS candidacy prediction. Our next guest is legendary rapper, producer and actor. He's also a huge Laker span the founder of the big three and the fabulous friend of this show, ice, cube welcome to undo this morning, and thanks for joining us. A pleasure and an honor to have you back. Thank things ago. You've got Anthony Davis in purple and gold this coming season but you still have some roster spots to fill. What would you like to see the Lakers this off season? Unlike these two guys I like the Angela Russell guess I do. I think I think he has the ability to play to. He's definitely a score and he could pass so you know, whether he bring the ball up the Brown, bring it up. Think is going to turn out all right. Yeah. So timeout, did you have any issue with the bridge that he burned the first time he was a Laker with Nick young on a think it was a point where he needed to go thought it was something that could have been worked out? It was actually a teachable moment that they blew up. And yet is I would fight if you don't know how to teach you, you know, he's supposed to get Sloan. I'm the on Nove swallow. I just think chill, Nick. Young. He shouldn't be cured. Here's what I was told by the great Bernie MAC. If you play with a puppy he gonna lick your mouth and by on the lip, and that's what happened with. Nick was playing with a puppy yen got licnen mouth and bit on what you do. The put well you know, you don't get you. You can't you probably without playing with much probably going to try to potty train them you of what you do. You get that newspaper Riley as you wear mount, I only newspaper cube. You already know where I'm no puppy man lead. Moment to I would teach you right. He will. He will never do that again. So you think LeBron, plus Anthony Davis is enough as the two cornerstones to win a championship. Yeah. I think that's enough. We still gotta add the right pieces. It takes more than two Tango and win that ship. So you know, sirocco pledge, you know, can they play a role at a high level all the time. You know that's the key. How do you feel about Jeannie bus and all of the laughing stock issues that have faced your front office over the last three or four months? She talked about it the other night on the red carpet. And to me, she wasn't real convincing about it. You know, I always say laugh now cry later, you know. So the people that was laughing at us for last six years. I don't I don't hear laughing. No more you not. Oh, here to chuckles. No more. Everybody's now saying, well we need to do to win the championship. So I've, I've always had faith in the bus family every since day. Daddy was they're doing it. Well, and I have I have faith in, in Ginny. So. We've always tried to make the right moves. Sometimes they just don't work out. You know Dwight Howard, Steve Nash that was an attempt to get us back where we needed to be just in work. So now we got LeBron we'll see a d. You know, the front office audit can do is put the pieces together. It's really up to the coach and for the for the players to, to buy into and make it work. They have they might have twenty seven million. Would you like to see them? Go out and get a tear guy say a superstar may obviously didn't say his cO is not coming. Would you like them surround with pieces quality players as opposed to another superstar to go with AD LeBron? I land quality players. I don't you know, this whole you have to have three big three is, is Kawai has taught us that that's not absolutely necessary. But you can't hope the best, one of the best players in the world and the great one of the greatest shooters of all time, get injured. 'cause, you know, we have a different conversation of healthy, right? Oh, yeah. You definitely a different conversation. But that's, that's how sports go. You know, we have a different conversation about a lot of championships. If injuries didn't step in so injuries are part of sports. So you can't cry over that we, we would have beat the pistons and eighty nine. We wouldn't injured not me. We would have beat them in, in four if we were in. We had some, some bicker and go there and you remember what how you remember what having. No for. I remember what happened. Okay we had air. Hey, what happened is that we're gonna love him up because what he ran his mouth. See what I'm talking about that was actually Toby and, and car. But no, no. I'm saying will chat when Kobe got his trouble. And then he's told it. See, that's the problem. You blew those Colorado. I don't believe in Colorado. So that's why that's why you believe everything they say, I don't believe with shag. Oh, put Paul's only where what point is it was always go? Be more shackling Paul, okay? What did you make now that the smoke is cleared in Magic's sudden, on out of here? You know, I it was always a strange fit to me. Anyway. Magic had you know like you gave magic a Robin. You know what I'm saying to work with? I thought that was strange from day one. So, you know, I was looking forward to go more this way, then to be, you know, one big happy, family, and, you know, imagine defense. When everything went wrong, it was magic for, you know, nobody was holler, rob rob, rob fought. And when everything went, right? He had shared the spotlight rob, and it's like, come on. You know, I gotta gotta be magic. So I understand him walking out the door at the time he did when he did it and maj can do no wrong in my eyes. I don't know. Why y'all talking to me about that? Magic pulled ice cube. In India, yet, you walk out to build. Hey, you know, when it ain't right? You got to go. But here's the thing, okay? If they give you a tie you understand what comes along with it right now. You're not magic you're not you're Irving Johnson in this role. Your Magic Johnson now as the ambassador walking around. That'd be get this guy. But once you become an executive you Irving Johnson, which means you have to do things that executive do like go scout. Like go watch guys play. You don't get the goal vacation. And then tell somebody else to do that. And then with Iran's you out. Oh, he, he backstabbing me. He didn't say, well, I wasn't in the office. I wasn't doing what I was supposed to do. Why do I his magic dare were rob Pelinka? Why did magic go there wit rob Pelinka? He couldn't tell us because what rob you take. But to watch somebody scouting, you let me know the thing, give me the tape, and I bring him in for workout that magic doing you know what shoot doing? Boy, I got stuff to do you need to get. That's. When you magic you know what I'm saying with me, I'm for robbing the work. We got to do it all. He was Irving being. Okay. Would ask why he left because when you urge Irving sometime you can't work. You'll max, okay? Okay. So speaking of magic one thing, I've always loved about you is that you grew up seeing championships made before your very eyes. Magic won multiple championships and then shack and Kobe won championships. So that brings us to LeBron and AD and you just mentioned about Anthony Davis. We'll see. You know, you've always had a we'll see attitude which Laker nation has like show us, I we're not going to embrace you till you do it for us. Right. So how much more do you need to see a from LeBron and then be what do you wanna see from Anthony Davis? Well mean I wanna see I wanna see Anthony Davis dominate. I wanna see LeBron help. Anthony dominate and get his. In the flow, because I think when you gotta play like LeBron. I think he can turn it on and, and take over a gay. And I think he really shouldn't courage a D to take over and he'll get his on the back end because you never know when knows row. You never know when it's like a d say I can't do it tonight. Lebron, you're gonna have to take this, and I wanna make sure LeBron got the energy and is ready to take over when neaby. We read the best thing to happen. We didn't know that the time with us this injury and missing the playoffs. For the first time, we ain't got to play one hundred plus games. Yeah. I always thought the Brown wanted to come here to get a year rest, always thought that I thought you know, making the playoffs defers year like who would want to. After playing nine years in the final. So you're okay with last year just being kind of a year off for him. Yeah. I was expecting that even if he stayed healthy to whole year I was expecting Lakers now really to make the playoffs. Okay. Now that he has co star you expect what next year. Parague spek. I don't know about parade, but I expect us to get deep deep rate come into beverly's last. And, and then we can have a back to back on those less. I need a parade come through Beverly Hills hills downtown. Come through Beverly Hills. Valid biller area. Yeah, you won't be able to get home. We do a downtown. Going to stay in Beverly Hills. LA company. We want to raise coming through there. Make it down. Can fans expect a great basketball. You know we just had our week one and Detroit and Indianapolis, last weekend, gray basketball, I so Joe still got it, John. You know, Cotino Mobely forty three still giving twenty points. We'll with kicking. Yeah. Will bind them doing his thing. So you know we we've expanded to twelve teams play on two nights a week and the competition level as just went through the roof. So you put your heart and soul in this project. And I know I said, when you first started that everything you've ever touched his turn to gold. This is a hard mountain to climb. It's, it's a tough one, but you're hanging in there with this, and you still believe in its future. Yes. Without a doubt. You not think thrown three basketballs and American sport. Van right here in America, and is no reason why when we elevated to the professional level it shouldn't. Work. It has everything you can want in, in sports. And, you know, I believe is, is something that, that American public really love around the world, they're going really love where does league is going. You know it's not really about where we are now about the potential of this league and where it can be in five years of when, you know the intersection of, of the Merican interests into the sport. And what we're doing with the league crosses going to be a pretty combustible. So back to the other league one called the NBA where do you think all the big free agent prize, Domino's or about the fall like what, what's your gut on Durant, and then down the line what, what happened? Well, you know, it's hard to see because, you know, it's like one domino fall, it could affect where other people go. You know, we've seen Anthony Davis get move. Conley was India, Mike, Hollywood. Yeah. Guy moves. I think the major pieces are Durant, and why welcome wide to got about Hawaii and Irene. You know, those are the three major pieces and soda win will will will blow wherever they go. You know, so would I link up who knows coli coming back to the clippers to me, his a joke? You know why would you leave through championship status to, to come to organization and never get? Conference naveh. So it makes a true Laker fan. Yeah. I am. So you know that to me makes no sense. He's gonna stay what if he does join the clippers how much of a threat would that be to your Lakers, none, because because they're the clippers their the clippers like they're just doomed from the start like Amina today. Do something other than what we've seen in the past. I can't get him future credit for something. I've never seen them. Do you gut feeling if Katie and Kyrie do team up, they will wind up where just best? Guess? You know, everybody's Sam Brooklyn. But if they go to New York older, New York neck, the Knicks. I agree. I mean do it. Yeah. You know, Brooklyn is great. But if they go to New York go do it. I would say if you're the Angelo Russell like what better places to go? Then LA like if you want to change the tone, on your career as far as what people think of you and that way left with a bad taste in his mouth. But then you gotta think about it. He went to a high state. Lebron is a big Ohio State basketball supporter. He has relationship with a lot of those guys sure they cross paths, a lot of different ways. They, you connections and everything. So I'm sure he won't have a problem playing with LeBron being sort of a younger brother type in just because it'll change the narrative on his career. I think he did a really good job of that dish in Brooklyn where although it's in New York, you still don't have to play with the specter of life plan for the Knicks. And he was able to thrive in that situation. And being a guy who could really help him propel that team to the place. I'm not sure it makes them a title contender anything like that. But I think if you're talking about the Angelo Russell with his max or Kimball Walker with his max. I think maybe two comparable type of players, maybe at this stage of their careers. When some of the people questions. Overall maturity, that's would you say this would be the most mature decision as far as going back to the Lakers and be able to face that, as far as a narrative him moving forward? I want to know if it would necessarily be the most mature decision almost say, it'd be immature decision. I think you go you go wherever aid, the money's best in the situation as best if that's in Memphis. If that's in Utah, you go. There doesn't matter like going to LA the face those demons or whatever the case, maybe that's a decision for us to sort of make fun of talk about it. It's good fodder for his career, not necessarily that's the best thing, I'm gonna say it's not the easiest decision if I have one regret in sports. I couldn't accomplish what I did Minnesota in Philadelphia. I tell people all the time. Vikings fans have trepidation nothing against the Vikings. But if you can go to one team build your career in have long term success, you would do it in one place, and I know Dangelo he would like to be able to go back there and you can right the wrongs but going back there in the organizations in a different position. The type of leadership. They have on the team is totally different to coaching different the front office. Totally different. So for me at his max compared to Kimba and Kyrie's max. I think it's a great option. I woke up this morning, not thinking that he could be the fourth piece because I know from an offense of standpoint, you have LeBron at the point d Russell at the two Kouzmin at the three AD is your the as the big four are the fought you're going to be tough to stop. You said some really interesting almost in passing there, which is would adding him make the Matata contender. I don't know about that. Do you not think the Lakers as presently constituted right now are title contenders? Do you have to tell me, how fill out their roster with rob Pelinka? Yes. So let's just let's assume he does a slightly below league average job at it. So by that. I mean, let's just assume for the sake of argument. They don't get a superstar and they don't get diangelo Russel, they three players. One of whom you like a lot. They had Terrence Ross one of you scratch, your head a little bit on. I don't know who that would be. But a guy that you think's not a good fit. And they just do an average of filling out the roster where the NBA is going in next year with the warriors in total disarray. The rockets, you reported in total disarray, with we don't know where quite Leonard is going to go. You don't think LeBron James Anthony Davis. Coups MMA, and call it average roster construction from there on out is already a title Cantat much that you have that is going to be average roster construction. What has rob Pelinka shown you besides being gifted Anthony babes besides being gifted LeBron James, they didn't come there, because of bra Pelinka that wasn't that wasn't shrewd decision making, but a Laker front office that was the Laker brand basically saying, hey, where in LA where the team where the where the marquee franchise in this league? That's why you're going to get Anthony Davis and LeBron. All right. So I disagree with you partially on the Anthony Davis part because I understand the narrative right now is. The Lakers just drastically overpaid for Anthony Davis. I don't know that you can't overpay for twenty six year old potential league MVP. But here's what the Lakers kept in the Anthony Davis deal. They now have a first round pick in three of the next four drafts. I understand people are talking about what could happen in twenty twenty-five, but in three of the next four draught they have first round pick. They kept their most productive young player and they avoided what Atlanta had to do last night, which is taking on Solomon hills contract. And they might still very well have max cap space, if they can work out a trade with Atlanta to make this a three team deal. So I don't think rob Pelinka did terribly in that trade. And he got something done. The previous regime was unable to do of which he of course, is part in dealing with at the deadline. Now chance, your question directly about Dangelo Russell. I do think Kim was better. I know Kyrie's better and Kalis on a different plane than all of them. But if you are, if you're going to miss on all three of those guys, I think their best option would be territory. Darren collison, Patrick Beverley something like. That. Right. But because I am not certain rob link would be able to land all three of those guys. And because we talked earlier, there's going to be teamed with lot of cap space, leftover and guys are going to start getting overpaid. I don't think Dangelo Russell would be a bad option at all any top four of LeBron ADD Angela Russell, Kyle Kuzma. Plus Kyle Korver is gonna play there for the minimum JR is going to get bought out in the next week. He might come play. They're very cheaply. You're going to be able to fill out the rest of your roster. Otherwise, I think that is not only a contender. I think that is the title favorite well, and just from you talk about roster construction, what we saw out of Palinka last year, and we'll see with the nets do. I mean still a restricted free agent put for for Daniel Russell. What does he bring he can play make he could play off the ball? He could play on the ball. What is LeBron to be surrounded by shooters? He can shoot the basketball. He understands how to keep a floor balance spread. He can push tempo. There's a lot of facets to his game how he plays that fits very well in with these guys. And I also think. And you said he started to change the narrative of the type of person he is teammate, he is. I know it's not LA. I was around it every single. I believe that's that narrative has been changed. He was Malone bias coach coaches. He was beloved by his teammates. He was beloved by the fans. I think he's matured in a big way of which there was a difference of the first year when we went back to Los Angeles, and he played the Lakers and this past season. I think he's grown a lot in. That's a big factor. I think which would make it easier for him. If in fact that was a place that he clings is soul, too, because no one from Ohio State, you can see them with sure, but I watched and I watched him more when he was on the bench. And you could see he had genuine in Tuesay Azam for the other guys, when they had success on the court now a tangible thing on the court him in one other player had nine hundred pick and rolls last year. Just imagine him in eighty him and LeBron in a picking. Oh, got nine hundred nine hundred examples of it last year from basketball standpoint of why he will be successful. They're in the Lakers. Think about like this. I know we tend to remember how it ended and LA and how he had to rehabilitate his image. But I'll go back to Gaza's beginnings as a number two pick the same things people were saying about Lonzo ball coming into LA your number's going to be in a raft of your perfect fit for the Lakers. You look at the Angelo skill set at Ohio State a skilled passer, a guy who can shoot a guy who could play make he doesn't get to the basket much. But in this league I don't know how valuable that is. Now, if you can do those two things he still a pedigree talented guy who would fit into any particular city where years old, he's really young. And sometimes we like people were talking about kids last night in the draft, judging them when you're nineteen twenty and you put dollars in your pocket and expecting them not to have sort of pitfalls, guys. Get a chance to grow and make mistakes and come back from that. And I'm not a fan of judge hand the fallen out with this. Exactly the most mature guy in the league himself. It was a swaggie the Elliott situation, wasn't it? I don't really have the greatest leadership in that locker room to begin with just to central sorry. Angelo, would you like to see him with the Lakers? No is simple. Skip. Only James harden, the Russell Westbrook had a higher usage rate than the ngelo Russell. So, in other words, what that tell you skill. He needs to ball. You're not gonna get the guy that they got that they have in Brooklyn if he's playing with LeBron James and Anthony Davis, because those two are the first option first and second options this, what we know if you're the third option and you play LeBron James, Chris Bosh with a twenty ten guy in Toronto. He wasn't even close to that Miami. Kevin love with a twenty four twelve twenty six eleven twenty six thirteen. He wasn't even close to then in Cleveland, the third option is the guy that must sacrifice the most. The ngelo Russell, get traded at his first year, he was the second pick in the draft people say what they trade you that you got to be a bust. So he finds a home in Brooklyn. He reinvents himself. Grows up matures goes to the becomes an all-star was in land to win most improved that went to the item. And so now you go from that make it at all star being becoming one of the most improved plans, and all the basketball, and you're gonna go be third option. Skip. He won't that once you start to establish yourself. You want to continue that art that trajectory. I don't see how he does that in LA playing alongside LeBron and Anthony Davis for me. If you have LeBron in Anthony Davis, and you can't surround them with three more quality they don't have to be super. They don't have to be stars but three quality guys and that a bit and go compete for championship. Well, it tells me your coaching staff is terrible. Lebron Anthony Davis has failed. You don't need the ngelo Russell, and it's not going to be a good fit. He's bald dominant. He needs the ball. Lebron needs the ball Ethel David compla- out the ball, but he needed the ball, also get you to maximize what he does like just because you got to cap space, and you can sign one of these guys because the ngelo Russell salary would fall, right? In line twenty seven million two hundred fifty thousand they would have twenty seven million three hundred thousand cap space. Net. If Anthony Davis says, I wave my right kicker. Hello. That's still undone, as far as I know. Did you see the cast space jams, too? I did not know. I did know Davis is one of the cash so. Yes. Oh well he waves we get won't game day at work game like toil, million dollar day. You could do that. Okay. Could be a salary cap. But what we do want the court to do wanna brother, cut me checks, NBA Lakers. Got nothing to do with that. So LeBron does run. Clutch sports. You're saying. No, I'm not saying that I'm saying Anthony Davis. But when you go work on. I'll know you were doing, but I do some TV work. I've done some K work several. Okay. So you know how this work. Yeah. Nobody paid me twelve million. If you if you get somebody back, we'll hear it's give this. We're gonna get it back to. Okay. So there's two there are two sides to this sword. I'm going to take the Laker side before I take the net side for the Lakers. I cannot think of a worse fit for LeBron James than the Angelo, Russell, not a worst fit out there than this kid bring him back to the scene of his quote unquote, crime on Nick young and we'll talk about that. And just a second, but I just don't know if you grow up and grow out of that one, and number two to your point next year for sure. Lebron James has to be the starting point guard for your Los Angeles Lakers, because he injuries year seventeen he needs to stay out of the fray, a little more under you can't play power forward or small Ford, you need the ball in your hands, because he is still the best passer in basketball. I say it again and again to you nobody has better vision right now than LeBron James does in this game. He is still the best passer of this era, and he can still do that. At what what's going to be next year thirty five? Okay. So you can keep doing that at a higher level. Then you can go in down low and Bain with people posting people up after a while the body can take only so many shots. But you don't need the Angelo out on the perimeter with the ball in his hands because we're LeBron gonna go, what's he gonna do go stand in the corner and wait and take take off several plays a game where he just doesn't even play offense right? Well kyri worked with LeBron because, as you know, Kyrie's actually more of a two than a one. So even in the days of kyri LeBron opted for one, a lot more than he opted for two or three to me. So Dangelo doesn't fit here. And I was surprised at Magic's quote, because magic when when he dumped him when he got rid of Dangelo your heart is hard on him. Right. Yes. And yesterday, I'm reading the quotes now, he's talking to Dangelo now. He's ready. He's much more mature. I said, the only thing he was immature back then he could always score. But the guys would never play with him because what he did with the Nick young video. But now all these all those guys are gone. And he's on another level now. Well, now Magic's back to being Laker ambassador all it's all peace and love. Everything's gonna be okay. I don't think it's going to be okay and just to me, and you and I think talked about this when it happened. At least we have we've been referred to it. But he, he secretly videotaped Nick young while they're in hotel room sitting on the bed talking life. Right. Right. And Nick youngs just kinda bareness soul and he reveals a detail involving his, I think she was his fiancee, Iggy azalea, which blew that relationship apart. And he posted it he pulled out doing you posted that how could you do that? What would possess you what would provoke you to even think about? I think I'll just do him in because. Of what I have. No motive but we'd had to move some furniture. I'd say I'd say you'd have some fertile. Absolutely. We'll come on who to think about. I mean the thing about this. I mean guys in ladies and gentlemen, at home. Just think about you sitting around chewing, the fat. That's what we call it down south Gable chewing, the fat. And you know what we're talking you girl. Did you talk it all of a sudden, she started talking about some things that she might have done some things, and you hit record? That's not enough. You post it. Yeah. If you had it like. What you do. What has some on? What did you first of all, give you got to whip him because you believe he did it to try to get at her? Now, you know that's off limit. We, you can't hardly you can't you can't you can't you can't talk to that. So I got whip him just call her that, then I got the whip it because he brought the cold violet. Yeah, I got with him. Magic with right. But magic is looking at it net now every fan. Oh, he's mature Magic Johnson, general manager would have never let him come back in. No. He would not know that's over and done. Once you step across that line. I don't think you can step. No back. And Dan low he needs to be. He needs to be where he can handle the have the ball in his hands and be himself. He's never gonna you're never gonna get the Dangelo Russell that you saw in Brooklyn last year. That made the all star you never gonna see that with Anthony Davis, LeBron James because he just will not have the ball enough in order to showcase what he can do. So he gets shipped out to New Jersey. Nobody's expecting anything from New Jersey and especially from him. And all of a sudden in the relative shadows. He had a nice year. He had his breakout year. If you wanna go to twenty one points, the game and seven assists, right, both career high and to your point, he was on that plane. He was in the discussion of most improved improved. He'll never be more than just a pretty good NBA player to me. I was never a fan of his. You can go back and look it up before his draft. And I'm less of a fan now. And it drives me nuts to, to reach stories about will. Now the nets trying to decide should they take Kyrie or it's like it's become one or the other. I re or Deandra because Dangelo fit in the chemistry. Yes, right. Yes. He's one of these guys now, you know, he's there all you, it will be. He's a decision for me. I would keep the Russell you would. I would know what I know about carry skip. Come on now. Okay. I'm tired of kyri getting bashed for the intangibles. He did not show last year. He still has huge tangible 's, he is a super star in don't forget, I agree. 'cause key had career highs last year of twenty four and seven he had seven assists last year. Again, they went forty nine and thirty three unfortunately with him in the lineup. They went thirty seven and thirty because of what happened his first go round in Boston. What happened right on schedule? He got hurt approaching the playoffs right? And then they took off without him. And it was virtually impossible for him to Rian gray. She ate himself into that group this year because they're like, we got clear we got to the fourth quarter of game seven of the conference finals without you write all this truce give. But when you look at it, they, they're looking at Karen, he's talking to. Them, but it's almost like he's talking down to them. Okay. He has. I don't defend any of that. Like I had to call the broad and I'm like bra. I see what you talking about now. They're like, what you the problem came to head to call run and try to figure this out. You are the problem Carrie, okay? Just remember? He's only twenty seven years of to me, just entering his prime. Give you that moody and be a leader. You can't go weeks and months without talking to your teammates. If you give me a choice in Brooklyn next year, and I got kyri, or ongoing kyri. I don't care about whatever happened in Boston happened. Okay. What have we clay? He brought the same thing to Cleveland. Remember it was reported that he wouldn't talk to his teammate for weeks Oni, and he took that same. And he would he didn't want the drama on my goodness. Lebron drama going on. Diva and our need. I wanna be coked. He got everything he won't is. Okay. So it didn't work. Boston's it would work.

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Carolla Classics: Ed Begley Jr., Greg Fitzsimmons, and Larry Miller

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Carolla Classics: Ed Begley Jr., Greg Fitzsimmons, and Larry Miller

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The cruella show was internally lucky that I'd never had plans on a Friday night i. now thank you for that. I'm emailing Geos. Even, I do like I'm going to move yourself if I get the LERT I won't look at my phone. But if I, happen to catch it or something somewhere, I'll just sneak off some new guy stuff. Anyway they've done from parking lots. I've done it from negative thirty in the snow. It was like you know it's much easier if I just send it from out here. Wait till I walk the mile to my house. I'm glad you were I'm glad you were available at the time because we needed you. Clip. Was Amazing. It really was I want to remind everybody about Gyco, just switch to Geico and save fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more on car insurance will take more about in just a moment but let's get going with the clip. This first one is a listener requests, and if anybody wants to request clip super easy, you can email us classics, Adam Corolla Dot Com for hit us up on Instagram facebook. Let us know what you WanNa, hear. Or listening this one is from victor are on facebook and he wrote hey guys love Corolla classics. I've been looking I've been looking for this episode for years I'm sad to admit I'm not sure if it's Fitzsimmons or Bill Burr when he tells the story of how he's working at this large office in almost almost got quote polishing his poll in the bathroom. When he came out, he thought for stern it'd be fired and his friend called him out for it well. There's a little bit more to the store and we'll get into it in a moment, but gio found the clip and it's a classic story. This is Victor Orrin Facebook I. Think he's requesting Adam Colonel Show one thousand nine, hundred, fifty eight. This is Greg Fitzsimmons Gina Grand Brian Bishop November of two, thousand sixteen. It has the very store he wants as possible with Greg is told us twice or more on the show so he may want a different version but I think this is exactly what he's asking for. Let's find out. Check out deficits dog always delivered just Tulsa joke in the hall. You like to tell everyone you're listening you know. Guys a lot of guys talk about we were talking about Adams? Got This beard, which is like mind is coming in and a lot of colors. Yeah. And and if you wear shave mine in Gina, can you see the welts? Look a little a little bit the lesion and you know the Post Shave you need your there's GonNa be some issues underneath the beard after you have shaved in a while and I was talking about guys all like to shave their balls and they go. Yeah. You know my girl like so feels. And I said yeah she likes it feels the first night four nights later it feels like you're spanking their taint with a cactus. Relate to that. Preach brother tickets. and. That's why I gotta go see fits dog and bring the kids. Is Well it's a family affair. Up I. There's this horrible bus accident and. I think five or six kids died. Police. Bad Bucks by this accident and I don't see. All I want out of life is consistency which is. I can't. I'll I'll give you an example million years ago. We did a man show wrap party at a bowling alley was Kirkwood Bowling Allan Ventura Boulevard there and at a certain point. When everyone was drinking everyone decided to smoke because that's how it works in this town everyone everyone gets drunk and then they wanna go smoke a cigarette, but you can't smoke a cigarette in a bowling alley for Christ sake I would argue that they should be granted grandfather did like when People are exercise when I was a kid you'd go to bowling out they would hand you a cigarette. Polling machine the. Smoking you. Can't. Smoke in the bowling alley fine. Kirkwood the the way the Bowling Alley was Ventura Boulevard was a street in. Ventura entrance. The entrance was in about fifty feet from Ventura Boulevard was off the parking lot and they have an awning banshee in or whatever, and so everybody at a certain point where they got good and liquor it up. It's GonNa go outside and share cigarette with their beer except for you can't walk outside of Kirkwood Bowling Alley holding a beer even though you're in the parking lot, you're not on the fucking street, but you can't be trusted. These are adults. These are these are adults mid thirties at the time carefully fully employed we rented the place out for a party. It's our place essentially and everyone has to set their beer down on the carpet. Next to the front door and then go out and smoke, and then tried to decide who's beers wouldn't her hers his when they come back in because. We're safety oriented except for none of our school buses have seatbelts other than that we're going to say. It's amazing. There's no there's no seat seatbelt in the school bus. Yeah. But other than that it's safety safety safety and more safety that's click it or ticket for you on the highway you with the air bags you in the head. With, the crumple-zones you with all your stuff, it's click it or ticket click it or ticket click. But in the the box carries the kids know and a casual. So I think six kids are dead. Now I here's my whole thing. We should go fuck you to everything until you put this seat belts in the bus, right but they've got the their high back seats covered in rubber. Now they are. Half of them are low bench are still the low boy I mean it just goes to the kids shoulder our know how on the road school buses? Yeah. You had a high back. I used to sit in the back row. I went to I don't I think I might have told you this once before. I was I went to a school and it was all Catholic school girls on the bus because I went to a private school that was about twenty minutes away. So back then for whatever reason, if you lived a certain distance from school, even if it wasn't as the public school, they still had to provide transportation So it was a giant long bus filled with girls with short plaid skirts and white sox pulled up to the knees. But that little front part of the thigh in the afternoon, the sun would come in and it would just graze the blonde hair on the front of the Tan Thi-. And Fitz Dogs. Twenty eight year old fits dog drove that. Took notice sit in the background and Fitz. himself. On away home. Even in the Transportation Department. Bunny Gerry. I made this This this insane comment once which is. Know Sort of who beats off in the bathroom of an airplane and Gary quickly chimed in with one of these. Who says you need to use the bathroom? Now. Corollas don't fly. But if they did, it would surely be coach or there. It'd be some form of steering yet would ask, can we go? Yes during or yeah but. I can't imagine a world like I can imagine a world where my seat reclines four inches and the other guy uses it like the old person uses a towel bar to get off the shitter every time they gotta get up. Is a human being sleeping here I know this is. How convenience alleged Understand, there's another human being who's watching a movie who's doing that to constantly like is that is that run through your mind but. I said, how can you beat off like I'm picturing himself like making a teepee of other USA today or something fame or something, and like you get the Pod, you go international and get the pod said and I'm like, that's it. I I stay fits dog trump's you on on the boss now that. Auto toddlers. From terra firma tougher pile. Four but but today twenty sixteen, it would be viewed as sexual assault. So I wouldn't be I would be knocking on doors for the rest of my life every time I move. National waters over and ocean. I was your. Feet, feet from a Catholic girl and. And and the driver Kenny this big black guy from Louisiana, he's on the Mornings I. Sit in the front row we talk muscle cars He had a sixty nine Mustang fastback and then and I sit in the back row on the way home and just leisurely I'd put it in a long day at school studied hard gym class earn this. Study. Hall. The they didn't serve drinks on the bus you got unwind somehow. And stroke on out and Kenny would be looking at me and that in that mirror like fits. Back Back dead. Dog. Dog with a W. Well Gary says, Moore Grand Fist dogs is by far more daring well, and it was also a slit in it was it was the big high seats. So there was a slit in the vinyl back there and I used to. Toilet paper from school and then. At work it out onto the toilet paper and then I jammed into the crease and it would fall down into the back. So by the end of the school year the. Bottom. Area, there's no way but that's against the back of the boss. So would accumulate yeah. Yeah. thing would that pre thing went up in flames simply out kindling I'll tell you one thing to see three years old now the funniest class. You. Know we talk a lot about. The. Haves and the have nots and are like you know out here the poor Latino who's going to clean your toilets or whatever it is but. Handling Jisr it's not your own is really something that rich wide. He doesn't really have to think about that. Much. That's a rich man poor man right there. With Reproductive Center arriving for rich for your mopping outfits dogs but. I want you to read I. Think I wrote it in my first book Fifty Years Welby checks and I remember thinking no, and this is now what seven years ago or six years ago whatever it is but still no seatbelts in school bus I told Gary just grabbed the page road on that I told the genie you should read it says I can't take my kid for a drive to the mailbox and a car that has. Eleven airbags and five crumple zones without the little shit being built in like Buzz Aldrin yet. Can you think of one vehicle built after Nineteen fifty-nine that doesn't have seatbelts cement mixer beer truck ABACO? No they're all required to have seat belts. It's the school bus. Hey, I've got a great idea. Let's put our kids in an unwieldy metal cigar to piloted by sixty three year old cataracts who recently managed to string together nine months or so Brian. If I drove my kids school and the kid wasn't wearing a NOMEX firesuits six way harness I'd be arrested does anyone else the insanity in this I? Bet Even prison buses have seatbelts. We are of. Were a timetable smartest and dumbest. At the same time creatures on the planet right I feel like wolverines and things like that are fairly consistent. We go nuts with seatbelts. We never stopped talking about it. We never stopped handing out tickets we never stop beating the drum. We never stop the click on a ticket except for the kids in the bus except when we get all thirty of them together in one spot of a thing that's unwieldy that an old timers driving. Casual attitude towards and full of Shit too because everything especially in the propositions as think of the children, the children but I think the main reason they haven't done this is because it's too expensive to retrofit all the buses. It's not worth it I I don't know but in talking about that this morning, I, it's it's it's insane that we do this thing. All Time we go while you have to put on two dollars a pack of cigarettes. So we can get people to like just take one of the two dollars you put on the pack cigarettes put the laidlaw bus settled up with some seat belts. Would you please kids? It's not that expensive a proposition and It's also just kind of one of those things where it's like somebody says Department of Transportation says all cars manufactured after this date must have an air bag. You don't get to go Chevy I'm holding out or that's a little rich for my blood or shopping for a new car. But with no air back, it's just it has an airbag boop, it gives you. Fire, it gets tacked onto the price of the car that's just it. It's just part of pice of the bus, and now that's something horrific has happen. Don't they have to do something about it? Well, there's been horrific things happening you know cater to at a time times every school year every year times every state in the union is they don't lie saw this one school bus where I think they're taking precautions because the kids all had on helmets, but it was a smaller bus. More maneuverable, more maneuverable maneuverable. GAZER. Now. These racing type helmets like a full face Simpson type just like a simple bike helmet but they seem happy the kids seem really happy about where in the they were all kind of laughing and smiling they were. See. Picture this the wearing a bike helmet. Yeah. It's US small bus. It's a very small bus- Rock climbing club and no not as much as. What you'd see on like a kid on a tricycle that. Kids are in a good mood. Should've seen him laughing. All around. The special one of them was in the. And he was. Jerking off. looper situation. Yeah A young the ghost of Chisholm Past. Came to visit himself. I had. I got caught beating off once. I got caught being normally get caught beating off, and it's like all right You know we signed pack it and. I'll get to this later. What are you GonNa do I got mean I i. lived in a garage. And I just summer? Day And Had A. I had a friend. Who Liked Some day. That seals and Croft I think. I had. I had a friend that used to like to enter like Kramer like you'd get a running start and the collide and just kicking the doors. The kind of stuff guys would do back then just because yet had energy just to screw around. And this guy timed it so perfectly. That I was literally just peaking right is he busted in and there was nothing I could do? Like I. Put. In the time since breeze got was an insane time there's nothing to do like they still give it the to post stroke. Payments Stop or did he? He's already there. He was like screaming. And I like I'm sorry if you'd come pardon the pun four seconds earlier or four seconds later, we could've avoided tire mass but I got to. A point. in in in pilot eases sort of it's sort of point of no return. It's like once you get that seven, seven, seven up to one, hundred, thirty, eight knots we are taking off I saw I don't it doesn't matter what goes on after that. There's not enough runway to slow it down and get back down. So we're at that point we're taking off. Wheels up. Walls up could Harry thirty jerking off. have been construed as anything else or was it just fully? glaringly. It was difficult to say you know back. Or? Anything else because Coming out of my cock, you try to stop it by squeezing which just made shoot further in the. Face. Now. It was really hard to talk that one down. Can't walk that back could not walk that one back. There's really nothing I could do that at that. A thank God that guy was a wallflower or scream as he ran down this rebound. I. Had my first writing job ever was on the show called cedric the entertainer presents. We're on the same lot together I think, yes. We were right Louis C. K. wrote on the show. Yeah. He was a really good writing staff and so my first day. I already fucking like I hate writing on TV shows. But I you know. So on board and it's after lunch and I got that that fatigue and I go in the bathroom. And I. I start jerking. And the show runner like as I'm coming literally say moment you're talking about liftoff hundred, thirty, eight knots, door opens coming. Just pulled over myself I. Put my head down between my legs of blocking young one to sight Outta gives. Up until then dog. He goes. Off. And I just turned red and I. I had this whole writing career laid out I'm going to work on these shows is a staff writer then it'll be a producer and. Clean Up. Back, in the writer's room another. Ethnicity. He is white. He's white show staff except for. And he literally POPs the door open. John. because. It's important. What position are you where you're standing in front of the toilet I've seen it. Weirdo. Handicaps. When he wants. So I, go back in the writer's room. And now it's just now I'm dead man walking just waiting to get fire. You know you can fire you pretty quickly when it's your first thirteen weeks so. I pretend that I'm still a participant in the show and and then like two days go by and I'm not making eye contact I'm not talking to him and then somebody talks about taking a shit and he goes yeah, I walk in the bathroom the other day opened up the stall and Fitz fits dog is taking a shit didn't lock the door and I'm like. Taking. That's all I was doing. You've never been so happy. Right yeah but. You. Don't need to light a match and Fitz dog hits the commode I. GotTa, Tell You give the devil is do like. A little bit closer here. A little bit about it. Said Yeah Yeah all right let's Let's see who the ASS selves this as a get ready for that fits dog I don't know your family's G. Parade. Of origin, my mom was my mom's here right now we just had a long talk about it. This morning about her being like I provided wealth you guys I go mom when I played Ice Hockey I used to borrow. Equipment from France and I used to go through the trash can in the locker room to get like mismatched elbow pads nothing she would buy me the cheapest shit gloves made a plastic instead of leather. So they crack and know everything we bought was Marshall. She bought me a pair of Timberland boots, marshalls, and the timberland boots it was like everybody else had real timberlands and mine they were for marshals back when Marshall's was only defected. And the soul was about three quarters of an inch forward of the boots. was exposed to the elements well. Yeah Yeah Greg Fitzsimmons taking a shit. Or? I always mix it up with the bus one because he's got he's got how many stories does he have about? Oh Yeah. I know the bus one is fantastic definitely updates. On the bus. Definitely, after in the Pantheon of Fitzsimmons and love whenever he comes on such classic guest and always a welcome addition to the program. 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Despite his tweets Andy Killer has a long history of coming on the Adam Corolla show Adams, always super welcoming the hosts are. Fan Base everybody seems to enjoy them play to one twitter. But he's not the biggest fan but this is ten years ago before all the drama Andy Killers first appearance on the ACS format. Check it out. Facts, and killer coming in, we'll be doing some news Oh, the Odyssey I just got back from New York and a couple of things and I I one controversial and I feel like. T I feel like you're my you're you're my yard, stick your my litmus paper. You can tell me whether the thoughts I'm thinking are racist not okay fair. Ratify me or human. Really got to go with me on this one. So I'm in New York and I'm doing Howard Stern and shoot my book cover I'm running around like a chicken head cut off and doing all this publicity for Klondike and Blah, Blah Blah. But I am able to HOOK UP WITH DAG? Mike Tony Nominated David Alan rare that this year has been controversial because by the way I heard from Superfan Giovanni. That there there was a true rift between Dag Dr drew the had mentioned access. No really exists says no I guess. It's one way don't be a player hater. So so I'm going to go see his new play all the race David, mammon? It's a mammoth play James Spader Senate John, boy, Walton hot black chicks in it. It's all there and you know my feeling is this isn't my bag i. mean I like big musical numbers but this seems intense and you know very stripped down but you know daggs good friend and he's nominated for an Tony so I'm very back. David David Mamat is one of the greatest living playwrights. He wrote Glengarry Glen Ross he can turn of phrase. Yeah. So So first thing DAG says, you're coming down I'm I it's in amongst this crazy day of Howard stern and all this pass and back and forth, and all this kind of stuff and the. So so I say what will couple of good stories here first off with the press. First interviews with some some chick that doesn't like dudes and kind of take it out on me. But we go down right in the middle of Times Square to do some sort of like video interview for the website and they take a couple of chairs and they face it toward these new red bleachers they built in the middle of Times Square. They build these sort of Lucite read bleachers for the tourists to climb up the in that island. That's right in the middle of Times Square where people buy from the Broadway Kiosk and everything. And she takes chair she sits him up and sets them up and some right in front of the stairs facing the stairs. So we're starting this interview and I said. You know. Maybe, we should move off to the side. We're not so conspicuous and sort of drawing a crowd of feel weird sitting here, doing this interview everyone staring all these tourists staring at probably get a lot more fan attention in new. York because there are tourists from everywhere who don't usually see celebrities you do. Then you do in La and we're like literally putting ourselves on display felt weird. So. I said, let's just move off to the side and she was like, yeah. Okay. All right. Let's do that and I noticed a couple sort of eyeballing me as as the whole time explain maybe we should move off to the sign and at some point there were clearly tourists because they they're wearing like you know the belly bags and they had like front back and right and left side. Yeah. The Jean. Shirt. So, so I get up and I say I just oh I don't want to track the bunch of attention here and I get up an as I get up the two people approach meaning they go could could you help us out with a picture and I said you see what I'm talking about and this never happened to me my career my arm goes around the wife you know and I start sort of crouching down and the guy standing in front of me. Of course, it's in front of the Woman Who's also interviewing me I kind of think to myself. The timing could not have been better for this just sort of explaining. Teddy yes. It's never happened to me before. I'm too big a star to sit in the middle of Times Square facing the red bleeding people are gonna want a piece you like these to the just approaches and like almost on cue like I said, we should move and as we stood up, excuse me, do you think we could get a picture C. Sweetie you see what I have to deal with. Some call to blessing I call occurs and I start putting my arm around the woman and the guy just stands there and confused, and then he starts pushing the camera toward me. Of course this is all in front of her The woman is interviewing me and he says, could you take a picture of us in front of Times Square and Now devastated and I feel humiliated in front of her the part that's really bad about it is I'm thinking contextual I'm putting my arm around his wife right if this just coming out of nowhere and must be so confused why is this stranger who is asked to take a picture of you just touching his wife for no reason you know how the game is played ain't nothing for free in New York City. Guys swing by the Netherlands you from your swing. Pretty good. Yeah, quid pro quo. Yup. No one flashes for Free tit-for-tat. So that was humiliating and anyway got through that day and quickly got back to the hotel and called my good buddy, John Binds and said, meet you over at the theatre. Had This Funny Interaction with with with. Dag. Right. So Dank, I called him back and I said Dag and bringing my buddy, John who was a writer for Kimmel I used to write for the man show. I, said I'm bringing my buddy John. So could you leave two tickets for us at the well call and he started with Dan? You never know evidently Dr drew specially never. Laughed and he goes on, they just give me one ticket man and as you're on your own any you know. All right. Well, I'll see I'll see tonight and sure enough they give him one ticket. Yeah. So I'm going to show now I'm really not nuts about seeing the show at least I'm not looking forward to seeing a David Mamat play called race with James Spader in it but I wanna get together with Dag and I to get together with binds and really probably if I had my druthers, I, would've taken a nap and met him after the show. Yeah. But let's see the show. Like what are used to take during the? Yeah. pull up to the window and like heights Yeah. I know you dancing with the stars? Yeah. I got a couple of tickets under David Alan. Grier Name I. Now you just have one ticket. Oh. Okay. Well, how do we get the? Will you buy it? Okay how much is that and twenty two dollars and I'm like Now I'm buying my date. There's weird thing where it's like I invited him to go. I have to pay an I'm so weird cheap and everything that I don't think I've ever paid like more than forty dollars for ticket I never went to a Lakers game. They're brought a scalp ticket like and it's weird to a play because it's like there's not a lot of moving parts there's not eighteen wheeler. Pyrotechnics getting your money's worth like in a musical, and there is a chorus of fifty in costumes in Yeah Orchestra during the Cancan or like when you see. Know. Cirque or something or the Kaj or one of those Vegas circle or something like that like you go. Okay. This is a big their water. There's a fifty gallon shampoos. Pool is in there and they're jumping into it. So there's much guys sitting around talking but anyway, so I'm like, all right. So I pay one, hundred, twenty, five box. I we we go in. And we go sit in the theater the theaters fairly. I it probably wasn't sold out, but at least ninety, five percents sold out not too many open seats for Tuesday night and early show seven o'clock show which I didn't know about but. So. We made sure got there by seven and they started the show pretty promptly like we sat down talk for beat in the curtains are going up and it must have started that thing about seven, seven, ten, seven eleven and an artist a fair number of, African. American. Folks at the event. What been your couple of plays than my day and Not so much you know is and. Or. Whatever the one with the. Wicked and all the shit yeah, I went to wicked. I was the blackest guy wicked. You know because your hair because my hair right and so the sense of rhythm and so there. There's like I would say, fifteen twenty percent brothers in the crowd which may not sound like a lot before Broadway. Play guarantee you've never been to one where there was. You know fifteen twenty you know every fifth guy was brother shirts unusual I remember seeing a raisin in the sun also on. Broadway, with sure Alicia Machado Racist Puff and puff daddy and yeah, it was noticeable that they got a larger number of African Americans in fact, it was a big story that they were. Luring minorities to Broadway. and. Twenty bucks a pop slow data piece a little bit. Liquor. Point is this we're sitting in there wasn't racist I. Don't asking to say, yes and the in there and the play just shot out of a cannon just starts off We got a black attorney we have a white attorney. We have a black sort of junior attorney young woman. We have a white male who's accused of raping his black mistress and there's allegations and there's a lot of you know you have preconceived notions about me because I'm a black woman I hired you not because you're black I hired you because you are smart but you also knew you were taking a chance because we hire a black person you can't fire them that could be. Of Racism, and it really was did a nice job of sort of capturing what? I think all of us go through on a daily basis where you have these thoughts but for every thought that Mamat presents through the actor where you went. Yeah that's right. He then provides a counter thought to it. From the eyes of the black female whose side you're on I found this with his play I, think it's only on about sexual harassment. A college student accuses her professor and when you leave, you don't know who side your honor who's right because you're like, yeah that's right. That big fat white attorney. He can't hire black people he wants do but he can get accused of racism every all the fire, make it wrongful termination, and then then you hear through now the black going to tell you how they see it and you go. Oh Yeah. Yeah. I could see that You're wrestling with all these all these ideas. Well Worth Your one, twenty, two, it is Intel. Somewhere around nine minutes in. There's a couple late folks. And it's like this large sort of black couple. Kind. Heavy shot walking down the aisle excuse me and it's like the thing it's a small intimate theater and it's a raked stage and the actors walking up to the fourth wall and talking to it. You know they're seeing everyone walking down the aisle doing excuse me excuse me trying to go there and these are people are fairly large and they're making noise and it's like, all right I, hate it like like you have no idea until you go to one of these plays, how often people feel the need to cough you just sitting there and just like And then like two seconds later from the other side of the auditorium. It's fucking. Rash of TB going. I don't I'm not coughing all show. You're unwrapping your cough drop in the cellophane. Amplify yet. So good might everyone's hands. There was one woman and I couldn't find her but she had huge bracelets on the big silver Bryant but and you could hear him close like it was like the ghost of Christmas passing crank. Down the hall client chain, Everything's on your radar so. I have my. I have my my disorder where I happened to notice things and it an bothers me and. A couple of minutes later, another couple shows up there like. They happen to be African American as well. Now, they're talking about race on stage and they're doing this thing where like. You buy into stereotypes, and that's the most dangerous thing you can do in this country we live in a nation, and as I say, get another late black couple shows up, and now I'm keeping tabs right I'm like, please let one white guy show up late here because it's been nothing but black since this place started and I'm certain. And there was literally like. Twelve to fourteen people that sort of meandered in somewhere between the time it started in the eighteen minute mark. They were all black and you're saying twenty percent of the overall audience was black but one hundred percent of the late commerce. And I took great note of this and I couldn't figure out now right when they're on stage and it's so funny because they're engaged in this conversation about stereotypes and this sort of thing that I'm wrestling with I as they're doing, they were part of the show Ooh it was like Tony and Tina's wedding. You really what you're seeing. They hire a bit players that are African American to play latecomers Lucius offline EDA's wedding. And on. And on and sizzle leans wedding. So I was. Sitting there. Trying not to count anymore, try not to laugh but I couldn't help it, and then inevitably at some point, the entire group from the table, the nutty professor came down from the Falcons. At some point, literally, the KLUMPS like came out of the opening that's down by the bottom there. That's for the stairs CERTA. We're seats you know sort of push around and I was like. You. Know meanwhile David Alan Grier onstage going yeah. I'm black. So I'm lazy and I'm late and no CAM and I can't be trusted at I'm sitting there just again. I this crazy tally going my head. You have maybe with some sort of three. D. Play going experience ruin. I'm just saying couple of things. Feel, if you have a play that. Caters to buy a this group feel free to started a little bit later than. You think a seven fifteen star Time Oklahoma seven a factor in like got a much old white people go ahead and started on time. They're going to be on time younger darker skinned folk. I'd start this one at seven fifteen, but then I start thinking Oh, that stereotype but then it was like. Percents, of the late people that we made up eighteen percent of the audience. So where am I am my racist should I've noticed a I couldn't help but notice because that's all they're talking about was race on stage. Of course, she would notice because you're you're in that frame of mind. Thinking about these issues and then. I'm sure it was an isolated incident, right? It's a small sampling of what six people. Thirteen but yeah, although I will say that your wife when I interviewed John Salley for the parent experiment this week. He was. Well, he was like fifteen minutes late and he was very excited about it because he said are made it fifty minutes late and then he said I'm black some early. Right for him to say, that's fine. Well, I think there's a situation here that speaks to a slightly bigger problem, which is far be it from us who took these people over on the honest died and enslave them to then get up John. Sally's asks if he's sixteen minutes light. But the reality. Is Right there that was. So easy to do. I, know did the whole show this balls resting on your forehead? Should. We bring out the great comedian Andy Cameron. Hey. I got intro why not? Oh, it's nice and cool in here. Thank you and Like an oven. Then the other thing. Thanks for having me Sir. Hello. Young lady very well. Thank you. Kimbler by the way. Dot. com. That is. In D. L. E. R. Dot com where you go to find him and you can check him out on twitter currently judge on last comic standing who do they hosting that Bellamy still and Did. Not Bellamy, they have to swap out the host every year they host every your. Aunt is not involved. That's all I want to steal. Fan For those people that fans not involved like. It's like DOC is not here. Is Not here? It's Craig Robinson from the. These funny is funny. I saw I remember once seeing the year where they had the guy from yes. Beer that southern guys apnea Clark seemed intoxicated. Here's a very sad testimonial I. Do not know the man look at me. Saying he's like a trick west dummy. Have you ever had anybody who was that far from the ground with my legs. And my daughter Yeah Yeah. So When Anthony Clark hosted the show I didn't know much about Anthony. Clark and again, this is very sad testimonial where I saw, you know when you host the last comic standing, you get up there and you do five minutes of comedy and then you start the show and I felt like he had a little speech impediment maybe he was coming off the Vicodin he seemed uncomfortable and I've ever just watching it and saying this is why don't let non standups host the shows this guy actor he's used to cut try it again right through four cameras situation someone the material Bubba but you need a comedian hosting these shows otherwise poor guy he's a fish out of water as be. Up and that somebody explain me he started off as a stand up comedian and it's been doing stand up for like eighteen years and I was like. What yeah. That just shows that either is delivery of so subtle. Or? Something's going on something may have been going on Jay. Moore was, did you remember when he also the show? Whole well decide you will decide who will be the next comic standing. They've had a few host over the years. I think Robinson is going to be the best. Good Greg. Giraldo's one of the judges on love. Hasha zero and myself Greg GIRAL. Very funny. So It's reports a new show for those people who've turned away from the show or America although those American America's has my mother calls. Every body has talent what she says, no Mama's not everybody has talent. I know it's like here's the thing if it was called everyone's everybody's got talent. Yeah. Wouldn't call it that no you hit a certain age where you have to fuck up everything. Did you see Sinfield? That show is funny as hack and it's like shine fouled like You can't you can't pronounce anyone's name I can't do the things I would do the same thing. Is your show with the puppet still on the comedy network. S Comedy Central No it's called Crank Yankers why? Well. My mom I did a radio tour to promote the show and I happened they're saying my parents and so for two hours, they just sat there in the room with me and watch me do a radio just on the phone my mother. My Mom couldn't get the concept down. Well, you're on the radio allender stand. I had to have headphones and there had to be a studio aradio. Phil Hartman's unfrozen Caveman Attorney like lawyer thing. It's like that bit with our parents except for they're not two hundred, seventy, three years old. Their old but they should understand the concept of like you talk. Shift into that does that mean we're going to shift into China's Shift into that when I'm older my dad climbed into my car a year ago sat in the passenger seat and spent twenty minutes trying to find the fucking seatbelt gray and I was like I'll give you a Clo-. It's probably somewhere over your right shoulder. It do not even open the console you're feeling around on the floor it's an o seven Audi. It's probably somewhere in this vicinity around your right ear somewhere my mom has trouble. Operating the coffee makers, which is maybe more complex come because that requires opening thing right adjusting the filter her own coffeemaker though because you should able to dial drone, right? Notes? Wrong. Well, also, the the the window she can't see the window and I have to say whoever makes there is a problem with the window because she. Fell much waters. Yeah. Tell how much water she uses the Carafe, but sometimes, she goes run. By the way as far as the craft, go get the thermos one those and that's a nice tip keeps everything hunting. You don't have to heat it burn the bottom of it, and then that thing that freaks out were bad after four years when you run it under the water explodes in front of Your Yola, you'll never have to relive that harder. Did you ever have a couple of they never have a cup of coffee until you're thirty that was decent this in America they used to be the number of the fun attic go into a diner and. It took them. So long to solve that problem you mind would be my fucking family is so goddamn pathetic that they would do freeze dried Sankoh and it was like first off the idea in my do this all the time because they were poor but they were mostly downtrodden like you don't realize it's not really about the actual money. It's really about the mindset, right? If you think about it and we do it a lot I just heard a commercial today for feed the children, and it was essentially saying at school the kids have programs. They have their, you know get the tickets for the breakfast and the lunch and they get all the hot meals you know there underprivileged yeah. But now that it's summer vacation who's going to feed them and it's like look you can go to the fuck Mexican market you by sack of beans for forty cents and you can buy a sack of rice for fifty cents and you can throw it in with a couple of beef bull jahns cubes, and make a fucking tub of Shit that will last you and your kid for a week was this. Public Service announcement for the feed the Joe I really I would like to say this is Adam Corolla for feed your own fucking kids, and if you can't handle that simple, very basic rudimentary tasks, this should be fucking taken away I. Mean I guess I could give you. Then they do that thing where they go for only forty cents a day. That's my boy. You have four forty cents a day. You could meet your fucking cans. Yeah I mean they pool all the money and they get the price down the right? That's The point is this. If you can't fulfill that very simple necessity, you should help your fucking kids taken away. Now what the Corollas would do once a year when we got together for dinner at Grandma's house, GRANDPA would cope the Hungarian food, and at some point, there'd be six people sitting around a table and the call would go out who wants coffee because there's a piece of coffee cake that's been in the freezer since the Johnson Administration with third degree freezer burn that's GonNa come out and get thought and some. Of Us may want some coffee and it's my hand would go up I would like some coffee, and then at some point, my sister's hand would go up you know I would like some coffee is well, we're in our twenties or something at the time. So we want some coffee and then my grandmother or mom would say, well, if it's just two people were going long Sanca and I then now here's where you're. Now you're on the fucking floor of Congress where I'm saying my Stepdad, some coffee Lomb, yes your. Vote Quorum I. got some pork barrel. where? What. What's Your district's your filibuster Gerrymander this fucking. Sanca district here where you could just John Ratio but I want an altering your college. Because, we get three people's hands up. We can get some fucking coffee and the thing is what Sanca get a kettle feel late boil it, which takes twenty minute right spoon it out into the cop and then dumped said boiling water and cup and Sir. How much different on the calorie burner meter is that then dumped coffee into crops thing and Phil from craft and hit start like that what is the big difference? The Caffeine see people this I I know that my friends are getting old when I hear my all time of all it's eight o'clock I can't I can't have a couple of. These people that. We can whip it's. Random saying like and appointed I was in college. We should take six they're week. That's that's what I did in school what Al Now people were about caffeinate huffing copier toner and get star, and now these guys can't have milk read. That's how all that. And I imagine that the price of coffee has gone up incrementally didn't suddenly become really expensive I noticed I do have to warn my dad because I know he'll freak out at how much the coffee is going to be, and I'll say this is really a copy. It's going to be two fifty just so you know oh you. Don't spend too much. That's too much. It's too much too much for coffee. It's two dollars and fifty cents. Can Handle it. That's so much. Why is it so much whatever happened to Alex a day anybody. To. Now one Valdez. Him Yeah. Well it is weird out. So then once you get that cheapness lying be into you, it's really hard to ever. I. Just got back from New York the Klondike people put me up there to go on some press junket if the conduct bar. Yeah. Why isn't that Nice? They make a nice bar don't you love the conduct sugar-free hundred calories. A Little. Rich for the Corolla blood we had the hydroxy bar but. But but they put me up at the four seasons and they did that thing where they didn't ask for my credit card like they. Usually. Pay Your way they go. We need a credit card for. Which Katie I don't even look at the mini bar but in this case they been now before I left my wife Lynette. Said you're taking your suit you're shoving at the bottom of your suitcase. You'RE GONNA have to have it pressed when you get to the hotel and I was like four seasons. That's. Twenty two dollars like I'll hang it up in the shower with. Gets wet, but it'll dry off before after wear for the photo shoot Blah Blah Blah. But all a sudden I'm sitting in my room and I got a call from Alex, the gay publicists and he said. You're wearing your shoot tomorrow for the photo whatever I said Yeah. He said have the laundry service press it. And I was like I was back in the kitchen. I was nine years old mom could reach him. What was the? And he said and have your shoes polished to they do that. How does it work? Which is common? Put your shoes by the door hanging on the. Picks it up and drops it off and I'm like. No, I dare not dream. I'll do the slot. I'm not GONNA do jacket. That's crazy. That's insanity and I just thought. OF CHEAP OFF wrassling meanwhile they've given me thousands of dollars they flow me out first class they put me up the four seasons books books this. This is like Klondike, way to get on up And I realized I've spent hundreds of thousands of dollars on this campaign. But yet somehow, and I'm thinking I'm GonNa get in trouble what they find out. I'm going to get pulled aside by one of the Klondike representative thinking with we of course, we don't take our talks. To bring. Your, own food. Are you an ingrate we spoke to one of the people from the four seasons. Someone took a can of large cashews with that. Hard. Please tell me someone broken that plays. Tell me that wasn't our eight dollars and. Starts Losing Sleep. I opened the CAN, I half of it and hide it my in my I don't want the made to throw it away. It's garbage I never snaps cover, but I gotta keep covered. So I put it in my suitcase and put a shirt over so she wasn't discovered. From the depressed they went to the pride we'll. Rest but some of that Sanca mindset has soaked into you. Sat Up and soaked with Sanca Yeah. I never saw sack as as a Cox steady measure I always thought it was it was no that's but see this is the point you don't save money and you don't save time. You just get a vastly inferior product for people who don't deserve better. That's what it is. FROZEN SANCA WITH FREEZER BURN in there for nine years. But like I said by the time you're done scooping and stirring and boiling getting it's more trouble than making fucking coffee like I just want to scream at my dull pairs I make A. fucking pot of coffee. Every God damn morning in. Don't think twice about a shovel in their face. Yeah. Boring coffee in the plant right? That's not after eight though I like bar with coffee. Old Than. Nothing to me. All right we got the news we've got a couple of calls. I, don't know do you want to take a call? To hurt that's. All Jewish call. Hurt I had. Deep in my day hey hey. What's up. On, what's going on? That's what I'm watching the Celtics and the Lakers don't tell me don't don't tell me La la La la Lou Lou. I didn't take you for Basketball Fan. Fan and an expense after the reason why? fastball fast because we open. off the ground. Shore than Spud Webb that's where I went. Wrong. Just. Blogs yeah sorry my. Mentioned the score. Is it's great to talk to you. I was on a couple of days ago for the Hobo Stink thing and I told you about the the dead girl, the apartment. Yeah. Later that night keep going. Speaking away I figured I should follow it up with another upbeat off story last question was. Upbeat off story in phrased as a question. Basically. Yeah. 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Well, this has to be extra confusing and more humiliating for the parents of the porn star, which is to say yes, she was in fish show friends. Oh. Yeah. I'd be sure I. Know What Part Did she This one was a lower budget. Shot it on. NBC News, at the One. Anthony Clark the one with I. Know this is more of a spoof of that where she was thirty rock. That's a good show. It was like thirty one Tina fey just come awake. What's yeah. Sorry. Let's move on. We Finish Lodge. Okay in an odd twist of fate. It was recently my birthday and a friend of mine came out to to meet us for drinks and she said you guys will never believe this and I can't tell you the name of the person gets to keep it a secret although you've you've both met her Bryan Adams She a Fr- some friends of hers were musicians and they were asked to the theme song to submit it, and so she is a good senior voice. So they just said, would you mind just laying down? So we can submit it a scratch track and the things very quickly and porn, and they liked it and they used it and already she's been nominated for an Avian. For Yes. So shall we'll take a listen wow. So she like a Grammy Porn Grammy. Exactly. Oh Yeah. Nine. Office. Does, we're going to hear this entire side. knows. Each Timbre. Taboo. The porn where a guy a second mom. Does doesn't love this own yes. Absolutely. Disgusting. Light that's right. You're Safar Shifts unexpired. We're GONNA do it all the way for. He wants. Chrissy. That show it all and when he does be satisfied. Only. Assistance and all mcnabb. Belies the underlying metric Dangerous message that almost all poor does where there's a scene where his girlfriend hot girlfriend is going down on his hot sister like they're having little high school lesbian right? Right. At a certain point. He does a thing where it's like you go down on her, she'll close her eyes leaner head back. Tap on your shoulder all slide in start doing it. She will notice that we swapped out and then at a certain point, here's where the dangerous message comes in the show opened her eyes notice it. It's me initially recoil because her brothers performing oral sex on her, but then do that. So good. I don't feel like my sister would have that reaction like I don't feel like there'd be like Adam wait a minute. That's the ticket I don't think I. Don't think would happen I. Think I think the disdain would run all the way through thanksgiving? There's a fantasy world and they're android fantasy world. Right where. It would be like twist of the right. So your friend yes as a favor lading scratch trash. Is a faith. I'm Living Jeff Branson musicians they wrote the song and they needed a vocalist and. Pro Bono work myself. Now, this girl who is not in any way associated with porn. For an Avian and I think she used a fake porn name. To accept that if Very Brando. Would you like to hear? It. Yeah. Sure. The. Side me. Real Specter broke out. Wild side. View to still work. pompey standing. Way A. Chance to. Way. On. Hot Chicks and grey wigs. Plan that's exactly my fantasy. Picture Sisley nineteen, sixty two. Wow. That's a lot of levels to. Be From that I gotta say this. The. Great thing about man I understand they used the fake porn names for all of the actors and act ranks. But if you hang around long enough and you watch the credits, the gaffer will be Dick Nobler, and the best boy will be Harry C where it's like really at that point just don't put any name. Yeah, right? Yeah this. I, want to work with that guy nobody works a lighting grid like no one holds a boom mic like Harry see where that guy's awesome like really seat were do we really need to use all fucking fake news? Maybe why not you just hold the mic in a in a poor that this your parents could find out about that matter few just singing theme song. Other. That was that was tanny. Yeah. That was no taboo to you. Think it looks more like a early. No gotTa get it on. There's kind of get it on. This is what I mean, and this is where they rocked. You know what I mean. He's got it all this is sort of. From the ship. Ship Porn. What's that one called? Low Sex? Sorry. Getting. God again, eight Oh. Well, that's the whole song anyway people really related or is it just for the purpose? Break the illusion Oh, it is the special collector's edition that was worried about that original one never had the deleted scenes. Sorry t-bone the time for another story. T-ball I love that God i. Again. To notes for that. But. Still, better than your friends. Knows Andy Killer back in twenty ten. We'll super cut also with Theresa on the news and Brian Bishop on sound effects. Now before going the next. Couple of things first off Adam, Corolla will be live at Lafayette Louisiana at the Dome. One night only but he's doing two shows a live podcast and some standup. 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Now, Gio I love that Super Cat so much want another one. Do Yeah. Let's do it. Crucial three seventy four also never yet played on the show Ed. Begley Junior Adam loves this dude I love this guy. He's great and everything whenever Larry Miller whenever you came in Adam was always very excited he. He's always in a good mood whenever you told him Ed Begley changes coming in. I think it's about how he doesn't waste things like primarily I think that's like his core is Adam hates wasted Ed Begley junior as a representative of non wasting. That's such a way that has to be hit because Adam hate. Waste so much. Ed vaguely is the exact opposite of waste. Big Lives, his life that way. Walk the walk talk talk. He's hilarious too. He's fun Super Smart. Also has Larry Miller, which wasn't listed originally when it was aired with added to the credits and updating these theresa's Rosser Brian. Bishops we got Super Cutlet Medley a hypothetical road trip. We got some Ed some news Adams Traffic Story of trying to pull maneuver and then getting stuck with a light next to the person who's not happy about that maneuver you try to pull wants to shame you check it out. All right. So Ed Begley Funny Guy Tell. Me Larry Miller's coming in. We've got some hypothetical questions for him. It's all good Theresa's get the news I. I had one of my one of my moments now brought this up before but it happened to me again and it it's happened to everyone who drives aggressively this has happened to, which is to say. You Pass a person you make a somewhat ballsy somewhat rude pass on a person that's going a little bit too slow with the thought that you'll never see this person again, you will always miss the next signal you come to usually a side street one that almost never mass and then half the watch this person pull up next the give you the wild hotshot. You save a ton time blasting around me three blocks ago look at us. Now word exactly the same place. Yes, and then you awkwardly try to keep your eyes forward, right? So can't really take you in in your case it's especially awkward because they might know your work I had a very. Moment which was I was going over to Seth Macfarlane's place on Saturdays I'd mentioned he the name just dropped again lives. He lives up in the canyons I shot the wrong canyon. It is it. There's there's A. We're ingenious around here because we have Beverly Canyon. Benedict Canyon and we have Flirt Beverly Glen Beverly Glen. So there's beverly it. Here's the order of Cain, and this is how fucking stupid we are in California. We have beverly Beverly Beverly Glen, and then whatever the fuck one I said there was benedict credited candidate Laurel? Canyon, and also by the way, there's two beverly's they run. Right, but these all start with A. B. and they're all in a row and I got my canyons mixed up and by the way don't get me started on all the Beverly Circle Beverly Place. Beverly. Drive and they're all fucking mashed into anyway I got lost and I was circling around and I was going up Coldwater Canyon and Beverly Canyon, and there's an old woman who was in front of me. It was just going nine thousand, nine, hundred miles an hour up the entire. Can you know that feeling when you want to go and you're running? Late and the person especially at night, and especially in the canyon just dragging there's some people that just automatically when it comes up to a turn, just hit start hitting the brakes where they don't need apply the brakes on and so forth. So we got to the top were Mulhall is and what I did is I realized I don't WanNa be trapped behind this bitch for another two hundred, three, hundred blocks I slid in the right turn lane instead of turning right when this signal turned green I just blasted pastor just never saw her again and. She did the crazy hawking the horn, this guy's a maniac thing. But here's my thing to all you people you're dragging your ass fine. That's your prerogative. The speed limit is twenty five most people are doing thirty, five or forty. You've chosen to go nine, thousand, nine miles an hour. Please permit me to get around you at the signal to do it on occur I'm not GonNa do it while we're moving, there's not traffic not oncoming traffic signal I'm going to pull up next year there's going to be a little shaming involve. The signals read when it turns Green I'm just GonNa Punch my va and I'll go in front and then you'll never have to think about me again you don't have to stare at Zena. Canyon, all be gone. You'll. You'll not even see my tail lights in the next three to five seconds. That was my plan. But the problem with that plan is you can never run into that person again. And she honked her horn and ride the horn you've maniac but again. Don't we have a deal you get to drive like a piece of catch it drying in the sun and I will blast around you and you'll not have to deal with my headlights in your rear view. Well, I came up Mulholland and Mulholland had one of those red arrows green light but the red Arrow but I'm built for that right Arrow show. Go to blast right through. It but another car slides in and stops at the red era. Now, if I slide in and stopped behind the car, she's going to be passing me in a matter of three minutes and giving me another Hawk you can't have that person pass you. That's the rule right? So I'm GONNA do my balls out move, which is I will turn left in front of the Pussy. Slash. Law Abiding citizen who decides they're going to wait for the Arrow I will just turn in front of them. But at that moment another car coming up. Mulholland and I realized if I try to cut in front of them and again I do that, I will turn left from the non left turn lane if an I got enough stooges lined up at the Arrow. But not if a car is coming up so what do I do I go straight now I'm heading down cold water into the valley I don't even want to go there I'm heading the wrong direction so he turned around as Fast as I can I start heading up and I'm thinking about the woman who wrote the Horn and I think well, she'll never recognize me now I'm coming the other direction. She thinks some coming from the valley. Now I came up, stopped at a car on Mulholland waiting to turn right she came the other way sure enough I pass by so much that had the opportunity to all these moves she stopped and shook her fist at me she was like a crazed crazed old woman. Was Yeah. It's a good to see that very often I had a coming I gotta tell you. But on the other hand like I said, if you're just trying to make time and you're not really involving the other people, there's just shaming, but you're not involving endangering them you're not doing anything you just. Might play an old bitch. Shame you. It's the get the fuck the Seth Macfarlane's house I'm already half hour life. Right I gotTa have a cocktail and tell him how to handle the Hasselhoff Roast yes. Most importantly make sure to empty your bladder. Was One of these nice moves where I brought him a nice bottle of Scotch and then did the well we could open Ed. What'd you bring? Well to be fair? He said, you want something to drink and I said how about a beer and he said I don't think I have a beer and then I was like You don't. have to be cold or warm single malt summer other what? You brought a good scotch then I'd like to open that one that I. It out of your own private. Stash. Yeah I'm sure it was basically a re GEF. 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The point is, is I talked to my publisher today and she said we can do another twenty, five, hundred, another run of the twenty, five, hundred book plates which I will personally autographed. So if you can be as generous and as supportive as you've just been for the last twenty, five, hundred, we are offering another twenty five hundred of these don't make me look like an ass wipe in front of. God I'm sure they're thrilled, and this is really your you've liked cracked the top ten. And I'm now sliding down to the bottom seventy five. So again, another twenty, five hundred and will stop it there and you can go to Amazon or wherever go to our our. Our Our pod line the fucker website. Website yeah and I. Will Personally Autograph All these book, play the cover I love the cover which you unveiled on Jimmy Kimmel keepsakes. Thanks Baby Doll Theresa's got a book coming out as well in January. I do believe January for exploiting my baby I. Think you can buy them both for under twenty five bucks or something yeah. I mean seriously thirteen bucks twelve bucks for the love of Christ doubled down by both and again. Twenty five hundred plates. But Act now, all right Tae Bo. For the news I was thinking about something nils lofgren was in yesterday he was great and descriptive springsteen maybe think a lot about the ace meaning. We beat the street band means reason doesn't not not into like over preparing for shows Likes to change up on the fly. We'll often give you a look and expect yes. Yes like you get the settlers five. Yes, Oh my God i. Tune up for a second. You're going to probably say something stupid which makes it obvious that you tuned out. Yeah. I thought of the same thing street band. Yeah. Thanks. All right. Now, where he gives you really really thoughtful birthday gifts. Not so much. The Vintage Guitar? Christ probably made fifty million dollars last year. So you guys don't play the guitar. Big Whoop it's good points. Get Your strat last year. How beautiful was neal's lofgren singing voice wasn't expecting that I know kind of getting lost up there in the shuffle. Yeah. You Street wife gave him a ride home alone just the two of them wonder why he was driving her car. Hold on. Wait I met. Her head which drove back wait a minute. All right Tibo. For Bring Larry Miller in and of course, Ed Begley Junior how about some news with Teresa Strasser? From the International News Center next to Donny's many bites. This is the news with Theresa's roster. Breaking news about your Buddy Representative maxine waters she does such a fine job. Well, according to the House ethics committee she may have broken some rules. Congressional investigators are focusing now on meeting she arranged with Treasury officials. That centered on the fortunes of single bank dot bank to one thing she's never broken heart. A lot of rules and eardrums but no hearts. It's funny when I was writing my book and I was describing a bitch she was so met her at A. I think I met her over Bill Maher show and I was trying to tell her about the morning after pill and she brushed me off and said that the signs from still allow when of course, it wasn't still out then I kind of doing this thing where it's like, Hey, baby your constituency could use some of this shit because she comes from. Her constituency are her district is a shitty part town where there's a lot of lot of kids a couple of MOMS and almost no dad's you can do the math and. I thought she should be pushing this stuff and again doing what politicians should be doing instead of trying to get reelected, try to really try to help the people meaning tried affectively change and help the people that are in your district rather than help them by pissing them off and making them feel disenfranchised mean that's what she does. She says you should be outraged about this and that not you guys should stay together and send your kids to college. But anyway, she told me the she told me that the science was still out on the morning after pill which meant she didn't know Shit and then when I was researching it when I was writing my book she's one of thirteen. Children Yeah and I did a whole thing on. It's fucking abuse to have nine kid I. Probably said Nine Kids I. Think She's one of twelve or thirteen. So anyway, she does a wonderful job know that's been well documented and even Dr Drew Express concerns about having triplets that that it's difficult to properly take care of three kids kids three kids. Now, of course born at the same time. But how can you give ten kids the attention that they need? Of course? It's abuse I? mean. It's like when they do this where they go our our classrooms are overcrowded. The teachers can't teach because there's fifty kids. Okay, right. There's fifty kids. The one person cannot take care of the needs of the fifty kids. If she had twenty kids, this is my classroom analogy. She could work with each kid and teach them their times tables. It's the same with the family. Of course, the good news is there's only one bedroom in the house. So she has to ten everyone the fucking stacked like Cordwood I was listening to some show about China and guests. There's a province there. We'll obviously there was the one child rule, but there was a province. Were part of was you had to be over twenty five. The MOM had be over twenty five to have that one child. Not so bad. Not at all bad, I, know I know we think it somehow the crawling people's reproduction and you're playing God bub-bubba. Blah yeah. I know how many kids? How how big MAC scenes will by the way is Bill Gates Plan God when he buys me nuts. That's all. Malaria and are able to reproduce. Thirteen kids and back to maxine waters. Here's a delight. She did break one heart I guess because she's married and that's where the trouble comes in. Three months after waters called Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson to set up meeting during the financial crisis. One. United Bank received twelve million dollars in bailout funds. Now, that's the bank that her husband. Sidney Williams served on the board from two thousand, four to two, thousand eight at the time of the September ninth meeting back in two thousand eight. He was a stockholder in the bank this according to a report from the Office of Congressional ethics which was just made public and by the way the real reason I hate this bitch I saw her on Bill Maher just basically explaining that rich people it's high time they pay their fair share which always fucking drives me through. The roof because you already have three percent of the population paying fifty percent of the taxes or seventy percent of the ten. So there's some insane number that like a one percent pays like thirty percent of the taxes and like three percent pay like I don't know fifty percent. So she wants that three percent to pay the fare fucking share maxine please go look up the definition of fair and see it covers three percent paying for the rest of the fucking nation but I love this thing where you get to just saying for the partisan crowd hates it's high time these fat cats pay their fair share they're like, yeah yeah you're right with all their shelters. And stuff shut the fuck up bitch and by the way you like money too. That's my point. Evidently, you enjoy a little jingle jangle in your pocket as well. Just shut up she's vowing to fight the charges declaring the record will clearly show that in advocating on behalf of minority banks neither my office nor I benefited in any way engaged in improper action or influenced anyone she's saying she was advocating for minority banks in general it just so happens that one of these banks involved her husband Sidney Williams minority banks would be a great name for an outside linebacker in the NFL. Wow. You GotTa Watch him on your blindside minority banks come around that Corner Hell. Bent for leather. See Him in America's game on NFL Network Twenty Years From now talk by that championship season. Yeah. Man It was really the journey it's really minority banks shore the defense allowing us to go to the next level we got him on waivers from Green. Bay and dad they thought his career was over after he blew out his Achilles crazy drop them we snatched they were wrong. He was a team leader also plates and special teams to took one to the House and the play offs. Minority Bang wasn't just feel player he was he was a leader in. The clubhouse yeah good chemistry. Guy Yeah also guy you could move around move Stud Baker inside back or moving the outside he wasn't scared to get down to three points stance and rush to pass the prototypical will backer but you could play at the mackey blaming the outside Outta college he played receiver. No kidding. Yeah. So when they get into the goal line every once in a while offense, they put minority banks in a tight end he was he was an option quarterback in high school and Point Guard yeah. Jasmine's thrower great javelin to great feat. Yeah upside. As a twin. Played in the NFL. Majority banks no kidding played. Well, he played the CBA actually wait well, his dad. These banks are very. Good. Good. Good. Tough player still no I see that toilets always that signature toilet seat neck. Raleigh. War. Good player have a player. He's Kinda Guy who always helped the Player up after a knocking he he bring the lumber he'd. Lay Out right up right up the. Sad that he died just six months after being inducted into hall of fame on the Turnpike. Georgia why was he trying to put the yellow jacket in the car? Yeah. That's right. All the fame jacket got caught up in seatbelt. Yeah. Anyway he'll be. missed. Well this minority, Bank. The one that Sidney Williams was once involved with. Now, understanding that representative waters was trying to advocate on behalf of all minority banks and understanding that her husband had a tie to one. There might have been a moment there to recuse herself when to say. For the record I, my husband is part of this one bank arrived daughter accuser banks. How's she going to go on without her father play any sports you would've wanted her oh yes. What Tennessee lady volunteer say he was the best family? Yeah. No. Yeah. Yeah. There's a lot of people say she was better the majority banked I mean minority backs, coach Pat, Woman Yeah Yeah Pad hairs pet whatever. Yes. She's a lady volunteer. Yeah Power Forward JETSON ASK FOR DAD BUT A. Lot, of people such athlete. Working with youth groups that that's right he's claiming she's banks. Claim she's innocent and she wants to have a public trial. She's GonNa fight these charges. Of course, this case comes on the heels of Charles, Rangel Republic Republican Asari a record give Democrat out of new. York who's also been accused of some ethics violations where guys you a lot of finger wagging about you know the fat cats and everybody in the taxes and all that turns out everyone loves money. That's that's you know. Al Gore Likes Pussy Man. Posting like money some people like the point, the finger and explain why you should like posting why you should like money but we all when the dust settles. Money there's a lot of why you shouldn't be doing things just for the money. What why not what the fuck else motivates people your move the Pussy and the money part. When stays home you just sitting around in their own? Right, well, you made the point yesterday about. That's That set the promise of money. Exactly. You made the point yesterday about Obama and many politicians having spent a lot of their time campaigning for the next election instead of just doing things for their constituents such as what maxine waters he thinks should be doing instead of always. To convince people why they should vote for her next right and I was thinking maybe that's why the aforementioned Bill Gates and and you know people like him have been so effective not trying to get elected or reelected. He's just got a lot of money and you can use it how he sees fit and he can start programs that help people there this guy in Harlem that has this. Baby University Teaching Parents Teaching Harlem Parents low-income parents have at risk babies how to read to their babies. How basically essentially how to act like middleclass parents. He's a guy who's outside the system. He's not trying to get elected Rossi seeking affect more change. I love a love by the way that's why like the X. Games and that the X. Games with the x prize I like the X. Games in the x prize and triple export. Bottles of booze with acts on almost everything with an x is good except for the VIN diesel movie x men the and. The thing is instead of getting all caught up with the government permits and all that Kinda Shit about you just offer up one hundred, million bucks. See if we can get a civilian outer space, get a car that gets one hundred miles to the gallon or whatever it is. Let's all just motivate people get the entrepreneurials spirit going and get the I I. Love That I love hearing a story about. and. By the way, this is I grew up on a steady diet of anyone who makes more than fifteen grand years evil and as it turns out when you see these guys that are like in Guatemala and they're building. Orphanages and stuff like that. They're oftentimes I hate to say religious people and the rich people and you hear about it and they go well me and my wife are very successful and we had a chain of four dealerships and we're very blast and we're blast ever own family and we realized that a lot of people didn't have the blessings that we had. So we basically started opening these missions around the orphanages around Africa and it's all kinds of stuff and it's like it's nice. Yeah. Then have to pull the permit. They're just self made people wanted to spread the wealth a little bit soccer's. Onto Lady Gaga. She's given an interview to Vanity Fair She's opening up. About, not opening. Up. Yeah I guess she's celebrate good and the reason for that is it. She feels like she needs to hold onto creativity which she keeps in her Vagina Oh. Really Yeah. Now you don't have a lot of boxers although she stole Madonna's creativity and shoved up for which. She hit it like when you break into prison, you try to bring a nail file in there or some horse. She's so creative that Frank. She had to watch truth or dare three times. Creativity, well, she probably had to watch. All of Madonna's two. Oh. Probably like her appearance on American bandstand. Music Award. It's not that easy. Would take a weekend. It's stunning degree to which is Sola Madonna's act and she continues to like you can check everything off the box check every box sue alluding to being bisexual having a weird mid Atlantic accent. And now the latest thing is she's trying to start talk about. Her being celebrate because. I have this weird thing that if I sleep with someone, they're going to take my creativity from me through my vagina. Ru and she goes on to say I'm perpetually lonely. I'm lonely when I'm in wait I'm lonely when I'm in relationships. I can't even do it. It's my condition as an artist. I know. So tortured so alone. By the way, she's at the fucking Yankees game in a strutted bra making acid herself like really. And by the way not attractive I could be one of the I. I hate to be one of these guys. But here goes could be a quite candidate for a butter face competition. Amazing. Enough Body. But wow tough. Tough Grill. Well, Mike Lynch was just making the point that a lot of her wardrobe choices seem to be saying, Hey, look over here. Yeah. The well, not only look over here, but she's wearing like a welder's mask and a space helmet a garbage bag on her head like most toughest kind of hey, over there, and by the way I got a beekeepers bonding. It's a look I've decided to go beekeeper. Jennifer beals doesn't work that look? No, no ord ord Jennifer Lopez or anyone. They knew Eber Yeah. Well, I've never known an UN- Pretty Jen. Thorough. Is Pretty. Thought one. We. Don't know. Hudson. She's very, pretty Isaak's like her music color mixing waters what Now, wait a minute Isaac. You don't think that Jennifer Hudson's she's lost all the weight you sometimes. She sometimes looks good and sometimes looks at work. What I'm saying is you can't be suggesting Jennifer Hudson's not a beautiful woman she's doing she's doing the Jenny Craig. I think they have a new Diet for the black folks let Jenny. Craig. Yeah. Yeah. She's lost all that weight using a good thing. Maybe, she had a baby good. Didn't you see her and sex and the city? No. dreamgirls hold on. What? Sex. In the city know what? I I saw. She was the first one was Isaac on Earth. Around for the first. Thing you. Do. You're talking circles, it talking circles. Isaac I. Use this death excuse for almost everything. But just very convenient. Yeah. Just because you'RE DEL Say Don Fat Cousin Sandy's kid has his eighth birthday two days ago. Isaac wasn't there because he's dead. Bonuses. She still gotTa pull your wife. And and Jennifer was you're live when the First Section city came out so okay. Yeah. No excuse. That's my point seriously she she wanted Oscar for her performance in dreamgirls You can't, debate. What's the main things? True. I wept. They have google having you should google that. You. Imagine. That's where it started and by the way Isaac while we have you lady Gaga I mean come on what are we missing something? Oh now, I mean Isaac was a pioneer in a trendsetter came out there and that chain mail and the ball had glasses in a wrap around shades just thing eight at the Oscars you're. Doing that Shit that was thirty five years ago maybe more. Yeah. Yeah. I. Mean. We're talking about the mid seventies nothing's new by the way think about and we picture Isaak's was doing at the Oscars Circa I duNno, seventy, four, seventy, five here. Yeah. Your your pioneer brother. I mean musically like is that bad romance thing a good song we just don't get it. Time. It's the same every time. I hear. What you're saying sometimes, we don't get songs that are good. Okay. All right t-bone, should we put a pin in the news? We'll talk we'll talk later about idol and the world's strongest beer but for now. That's an. Theresa's news coming up if you don't listen, you're an anti Semite. All right time for a little hypothetical question as we we do with our dear. Dear friend. Larry Miller. I like. I love this Larry Miller I, really do I gotTa tell you something that minority banks run. It was very cool. Very. and. You can't once you're head starts going that way you can't stop. The, younger brother I rob banks. So the black sheep a I just can't stop, and of course, they're the one who was more successful the grand. Banks. Now, you can't stop for the next two days I'll be up at night. Too Big to fail that's Changed his name dual Ocho OCTO. By the way I have to say also, it's amazing. I am the old woman you've been driving around. And the exact opposite side of that and by the way I always pull over. Exactly. As you said, I've been seeing for years to anyone who listen by the way. No one listens right that's all right I've been saying Pulo I always pull over I'm taking the kids to school by she's someone who feels a little antsy I put the blink around pullover and just say go ahead you know good luck to you, and then I just keep going around saying and look at all the leaves with the different Greens. Yeah That's my point. What's what's in it forever like we were driving out to San Diego to do the House of Blues couple of weekends ago and some when you're making a three hour two and a half three hour track doing that stretch we're stuck behind someone going forty nine feels like just a slow death and at some point, there's somebody in the fast lane, the left lane and I pull around them and everyone else bowles around him, and as I looked in my rear view mirror as we're driving. Away. From them, I see just a cavalcade of cars pulling around and I always think to myself not for me for you. Isn't it uncomfortable being in that left lane and having people flashing the high beams and getting around in not only that doing maneuvers a little bit dangerous 'cause traffic's going seventy five and you're going fifty one and somebody's GonNa get clipped and then bang you into the railing and why not just know what's going on well, that's that's a capital offense that should be the left lane. I am and there was a guy, this happens all the time. It's the same principle all the time every time someone whips around me and whether it's on Park Valley, this book really whips around. There's no question. One of two things happened either a the guy turns left a hundred feet later right? He just right to say the hell with you so mad at me. Going nineteen right if it's thirty, five, hundred, thirty, five, it's more I'm just not sipping right and the other thing that always happens is that you'll you pull up you sit at the light together and at the very next light and there was one guy admittedly I wouldn't have done this. If he hadn't been a bald white man in a Mercedes share, I wouldn't have done this but if You're looking in the rear view mirror. You want some, you want some, you want some of this Oh. Hi. Because of it had been saved for gang guys like a low of sixty three Chevy. Sure. I would not have said some right. But on the first time like the first one together I came up ten seconds later he's caught Lisa the light and I glanced over and he glanced at me and I did the gracious smile. Let you just a smile nod at the next night we were together again we couldn't make it to the next light and we were together again and that's what I am not a tomb with the finger up saying you don't just one second just to roll your window down and I just said I have to ask you. Feel you whip around me and you just can't go any faster now, and how's it feel can he? You could see he was making a choice to get really matter not just said. I have to be honest I didn't think I'd see two lights that's the way, and that was that was a quick. How is it working with Richard Gere and Jason? Murphy. But I couldn't I couldn't believe that I am that the. Other side of the going around and I always let people go. PULLOVER I don't want somebody up my ass badly that I'm going to speed limit but I'm not gonNA speak the only I've I've been on the freeway doing seventy five or eighty and had a guy come up doing ninety. All Right Buddy, it's your funeral. But either way you're going twenty miles an hour faster me I will move over always and let you buy on. I do the same thing seventy. Five or eighty fine. But somebody comes up behind still I got the one of the one of the most I don't know why it's funny because you have a offended craw and things get stuck in it and you don't remember most the stuff where people punch me or urinated on my leg or anything I. Don't remember that. I, remember certain very specific things that aren't even really that offensive but one time. I was driving down Moore Park and I was going back to my -partment many years ago in to the lake, and it was one of those single lanes and everyone was stopped at the signal and. Right is a signal change I was in the lead I started going forward again and RX7 just went sling shotting around. He just got in the right turn lane slingshot around debt and then slid in front of me almost hitting all the parked cars on the other side of the intersection. Crazy ballsy move to slingshot in front of Eight cars and slid out in front of me now, I appreciate a ballsy. Move. But this one was the kind of ballsy move involves a lot of high-speed and if he didn't thread the needle between the front of my car and the cars were parked, there's a single lane kind of Moorpark to look alike, he would have killed us both. So I came toot on the horn just a to as he went by I didn't lean on it. I gave them a toot on the horn. He rolled his window down his left arm came out. He gave the fuck you with the screw the Auger one like like he gave me not to walk you do and I'm thinking to myself wow. You pulled out slingshot pass eight of us one flying pass me in the intersection slid in front of me cut me off before you slammed in Iceland into another car I give you a tune on the horn that gets a fuck you like I. Know this assertive reactionary somebody honked I must tell them like if a CHP if if mother theresa was driving HP car and gave a light toot on the horn to say that you brake lights not working, it would still be with just the response of fuck you like there's no horns. I'm sure when air raid sirens would go off. He'd just be like, fuck you poll with a horn on it but I I was like I was laughing. But as always I was I, couldn't believe the guy told me to fuck off and in the weird corkscrew move like sit on it and rotate up your ass like and then I thought, wow, this guy easily offended and then how what must it be like at work or married to this? Is only outlet for his rage. Maybe he's like a really mild mannered guy till he gets in the car I understand like my thing is do all the crazy moves you want. But if you get caught, you can't to fuck off you're the guy did the ballsy move in the first place your standard it's a reflex response right? Just a couple of weeks ago I was pulling out with the kids from like a clothing store or liquor store maybe it was a liquor store. Come to think of it was a liquor store but the point is I'm pulling out in the alleys that we all have here and there was a guy. and. So what if he moved to half gallons businesses that? And? They're not even half gallons anymore and that's wrong. But don't get me started on that hundred milliliters. I'm looking for a drink not the metric system at any rate though I'm pulling out and there's a young guy in a two seater and like a new drive eighteen nineteen and I let him go I saw him as you age angling around the telephone poles and stopped to let him go with a nod and the going ahead but he was so close his window was down close to mine and the contact was. So close the only thing he could do also was beginning the finger. You know because any contact at all with him translated to I'm challenging him you gave him though. Because cars had. Contact Sorta like about as close as me and Theresa make contact but you were so close. Enough yet when I nodded made eye contact with that was like a challenge that he could only translate to. Oh. Yeah. Fingers up every. Now and it's in the car and I, said to him you know what? If I didn't have a lot of liquor in the car right now? And Cheetah let's do a shot of pop off. This from our collective memory pop of. Comes in a squeeze bottle. That's cheap. Jen, like what's the popoff equivalent Oh. You know what there's there's a whole label from the East Coast to be old Mister Boston was. But a speed REX old Mister Boston was he even guys who series degenerates would say, do you have anything at all Canadian club anything at all it's. Boss at Dale's junior had outrigger which was like essentially. Scotch they make in the back of the store like like literally, the fermentation process is taking place in a tub behind vice. But yeah, I would love some sort of competition of the cheapest buys. Cisco. But MELANIA show up. So yeah. It just cheapest buzzed because you know what you WANNA use malt liquor, you WANNA, use vodka, whatever it is just. Buzz pretty well, let's keep it. Yet to buy IT A. Liquor. You know what? Night Train, express an MD twenty twenty mad dogs David Twenty twenty. That was like cheap wines. Were they actually they put it mixed to a boiler for a week at ferments again, and so it's twenty proof instead of just a wine poof twelve something that stuff when we were in school that was pretty a. Pretty well, I had a funny experience when we were in Atlanta. The land up at road. ATLANTA. And we're at a racetrack and I said, I should go to six pack run and it was Sunday. And it's so funny because. I grew up out here. I don't know this concept of locking the booze on a Sunday I know the concept of locking up the spray paint cans at the Home Depot. So the gang bangers can't get to a everything here is locked up the razor blade cartridges are locked up at the rite aid because the junkies them and sell them or cut themselves do whatever baby formula how depressing is that I wanNA kill myself with the razors I can't get. So. I. Walk into the Liquor Store in the middle of just this is near road land in the middle of Atlanta and it's you know there's nothing but rolling green, hills and. Frightening white people and I walk into a nice looking gas station only. Locked, the booze problem with kids running in here and steal and six bucks I can translate into troublemaker stealing and gang bangers stealing. So of course, nice crowd of locals that are standing at the thing. So I do the. Excuse me just like I would do with the paint hand thing at the Home Depot I need somebody to unlock this, get the twelve pack Miller. Plus don't. They must've thought I had just the biggest balls of the world like. Atheist thinks he can walk Watson are store catch buzz on a Sunday like I didn't give the you know could somebody please? Could you do me a favor? Here's twenty bucks mean alive I said Hey could we get this unlocked I gotta get some bear By the way plus everyone in that whole area it looks like Z. Z. Top anyway rough saving minutes shaving. What do you have to lock up the reasonably there should be having them out condoms. Well, razor blade thing is sized to price. That's selling. Yes. At the because a twenty dollar we slept in your rest Bach right right? Yeah. At at the rite aid, even a off a vendor boulevard, the cartridges for the razor blades are all locked up. What's events I know they lock it up and I think there's nothing more depressing. Wow. So have to steal left for your lockup these just take it the lock up the stuff you can well good for you but if your name was theresa rite aid. Would have that attitude. It's true I. Wish it was no I. Didn't my dad started giant pharmacy pissed at by. Jesus GM Avon hadn't realized. There in front of One hundred thirty day. CBS Baby formula locked up that is. Stores in my neighborhood. This will not come up again. So I have to say on another item you head about the ethics violations that phrase always makes me makes me laugh or drives me nuts because it's such an artful for his ethics violations very anyone else it's a felony right there. The Sopranos they're stealing everything they can. But no, it's ethic I always love when people get caught like with kids or something sexually and they say, well, it was an error in judgment. No, you wear a strike tie with a plan jacket that's an error in judgment I get caught with Manuka one hot tub. It's a felony. I had a crazy thing that I was looking up and Brian. You can look it up I was complaining to my Buddy Kevin Hinch about like the. Menendez brothers still in the joy you know and I don't care if they get out because I don't see them killing anyone except for their horrible parents assuming nature nurture the parents at a horrible job since they took a shotgun to both of but either way the thing that freaked me out completely is. Daniel done Dominic Dunn the attorney daughter who was in poltergeist was dragged. Dominate sorry done was killed by her boyfriend and she was killed when he just came over argued with her and choked her out in the driveway. Strangled her shanzer throat. Is killing the chef. Yeah, and he killed her in her driveway. He got like first off he got like second degree manslaughter or something like that, and it was funny as you're looking the case, he got a misdemeanor manslaughter. How many bodies have to pile up four felony shows up like really what kind of attorney was involved with this? He got misdemeanor. Second Manslaughter something he got he supposed to do six or seven years. He did just under four years and was out there isn't it isn't our system insane. You can go to your young twenty, three year old girlfriends house put your hands on her neck choker until she dies or goes into a coma and then dies and then go to court and get a well misdemeanor. It's not. It's not second degree is it's up first degree and you'll end up doing about as much as a guy sells solo peyote to fish concert. And then pour. Dominic Dunn was insane because he's an attorney. And sorry to have that bride sit here and look at he was originally charged with second degree murder assault whoever he? Misdemeanor quitted and found guilty of the lesser charges of voluntary manslaughter and misdemeanor. So how do you see when you kill somebody by the way? You went to misdemeanor assault is. Through a sharpie Larry Miller, you could have forty years that would be misdemeanor. So you have a dead body how does it get reduced Misdemeanor Assault Misdemeanor assault think of what happened the other check from the real housewives pulled the other chicks hair extensions in front of the cloud. What was the name of the judge because until the day dominic died he was always talking about I want to say judge cats but I'm not sure if that's he was always calling out the name checking the judge for giving not guys little time. What do you? How do you get to that? Admission charge of justice I have no idea how would be like the guy you've been as you know, there are people that get in the hallway, they hide their up to the guy. Murdered her son and just bat bat. Just put the gun down and spreading. Guy When he's walking free, but your daughter has been strangled. You're. Successful, twenty-three-year-old whatever and by the way you doug because your name is dominic and you named her John. Your Indoor. Yes. He followed this guy around after he got out. He got a job at like. Eatery in vans or something or Santa. Monica he picketed the place that finally fire the guy was like a sous chef and eventually the guy just went up north and I think dominic just went fuck it. Not Going to ruin his name? Yeah. By the way, if I were on the bench killers start talking. If I were on the Parole Board of for the Menendez. Brothers came up for parole would not say. Change do you understand what happened? I would the only question I would have is, are you going to wear those hairpieces again yonkers if you are you cannot get. But if you say I'll be balled and I won't wear the terrible ones. That's that are just like a rug. Then I might consider I would do they're married and they. Paid their debt to society they don't owe society hit their their family, a debt that killed both of them and I assume they were doing something horrible for them because they decided to be a good idea to kill him but I think we're coming on like twenty years of those guys in the joint and I don't know what the fuck that differences either way. Let's do a little hypothetical question before we get at baked, Bagel in his. Last night at his benefit for the mission of the Guy Ages. Anytime I anyway go ahead. He's a great guy. The hypothetical road trip. Game. The game where there are no wrong answers. All right. This is easy again. No wrong answers here. The? So. There are no wrong answer now or not in this game, it's a new day a new dawn rush light. Okay. A chick who raises Alpacas. Swears by and Tells you that they're more loyal than dogs and the picks an animal that they're smarter than that there's no way smarter than porpoises. Did you know that nobody knows that it's not like they play checkers nail pack one every time but the other way they're smarter the loyal they made for life she knows everything about Alpacas. Versus the president of the true blood. Fan Club knows everything about I. Know What? This is actually easy. I was hoping to second one wouldn't be so horrible was it's bad but I could never drive with anyone man. WHO has a club for animals or understand something about one animal that's so much better. I couldn't take that for more than a couple of blocks because I would say first of all, my mother used to knit without packer and I just want them I want them raised eaten. and. Knitted with and I can't take anyone who says no they're smarter than porpoises. They're actually like people have homes I can't take anyone like that and so I would have to wad I thought that was. Because it true. Blood Fan club person for a first off has a set of those weird fake Fang. Things you know that they insist on wearing when they bite into a burger also, they have a creepy sort of dark streak to pull over. And pick up a stranger and then pull out a knife. When a scare them, they don't want to cut them, but it served certain point they they want to. Taste, your blood and it gets it gets homoerotic at some point and never stopped talking about episodes that you've never seen before and they never stopped telling you have to watch it. You tell me barely gotten to the wire and they said care and they want you to watch this and then they get. Then they do this one, they get you the box set and they start to hand to you and then they take it away and they go. But only if you're GONNA watch it in which case what he's supposed to say at that point your fucking right forget it you keep it and don't give up after five episodes five. This isn't good. It really gets going. Yeah. Somewhere around our nineteen, you're going to be wanting you're going to wait some more fluids in your body and think fuck this but that's what it really starts to get good by the way I've a couple of months now I started anything on the road when someone comes up and gives me anything with another box or hey, I have a bandwidth. Here. I want to give this to you and I always say honestly now I've started say I have to be honest I'm GONNA lose it. I'M NOT GONNA TAKE I won't be listening to it I'm glad good luck I congratulate have the thing but get so crestfallen I say kidding I'll take it and I can't wait to her yeah. It's going to get thrown away when you go through security the airport. All right next one down one. Spotty record by the way. That's right. This next one's a coin toss okay coin toss. So there's no wrong answer this one, and again it's a fifty fifty chance you gotta get it, right? Okay. Dina Lohan or Michaelo Hans. Very Slough mother father I could never drive the father because he's supposed to have a closer relationship with the he's supposed to be a father to daughter like a mother to a son I whatever the sins are have been committed with that girl that drove her this nuts I'm sorry I could not hang with the father at all I'd at least as annoying as the mother is I'd have to pick the mother and by the way who knows up close maybe all I'm saying that's Why I thought, that was so logical. Well. First off. As we discussed before he's paid his debt to society. He knows what's going on the joint and there's nothing more interesting than a guy who's been in the joint a little steam the join that I have a million questions. It's always like how big was yourself? Did you have a funky? What was that all that show our talk really scary to get in good with the guards could you make some prune? Oh, could you bribe someone? I I don't know it's like it's almost like the guys that went to Iraq lots of questions about how hot is it over there? Really what are the women dressed like? Could you sneak it any porn? Where did he go by the? What was it like a work for or federal prisoners? Something I. Think it was wasn't quite a country club, but also he could fill your head with a lot of knowledge because Larry. There's a real. Pretty real chance you could do some time before your life. Stop. Saying with the mount that's still just a crazy with your lifestyle and. Really and the Cheetah's chips about who to talk to, and you know you would have to hang out with the bald comics for instance. Everyone. Will you have to go with your own? The. But. That's why I always keep the kids in the car and throw everyone off people that were you'd have to hang out with the guys who are in pretty woman in an ten things I hate about you. Frank Jason Alexander gets caught up. All right. So for two, let's just do one more one more but the males I still anyway, I'm very optimistic. Go ahead. Hi I'm feeling pretty good about those black guy who thinks everything is racist or chick who just read the secret. So what is the secret I know the book the secret is a movement, a DVD and a book that talks about the law of attraction. You can manifest good things in your life thinking about positive things. uh-huh. I would always choose the black guy thinks everything is racist because I would like to see how far that goes before you on each topic you have to go. And actually just crack up. So I think it would it'd be funny and I would never want to have someone who is So taken with a new movement and I know this and I know if I've manifest my thoughts and then my focus on this, I can create peace and we can liquidate the Pentagon by holding hands around. that. I can't take I can can always take something of if someone says Julius Caesar. Racist. Inevitably you're going to get pulled over. and. You're going to be in some county like making county and this guy's going to pop off to the White Guy who's wearing the mountie hat and next thing you know you're gonNA drag out of the car and you're going to be beating the shit out of you. And we'll be like the same with Jessica Tandy from from drownings desert because I take him and the Jewish guy, right? It's like it's like an over to for them. Yeah. You're GONNA be doing the Yes sir no Sir hands on the wheel asking for permission to reach into the box and get the registration. He's going to be calling the Guy Cracker and ask them if there's no banks being robbed two nine when you coming down next both both hog tied with those zip ties by the side of the road and the guys on buckling his belt and saying this just isn't your day is right joking fourth grade. Just isn't your day acid that's what's going to happen. Over three Larry. Listen again, an offer day but don't give up. That's been weeks since you've gotten one correct be must have gotten one right somewhere in here somewhere an inconsistent. Come on even responding to that don't hang your hat. Larry Miller, you can go to Larry Miller humor dot com for more information about either way. Because tonight's the first night of practice with your team, you know one of my kids to place on the East Valley Valley Trojan Horse Night Tonight since I leave here I'm getting him a quick bite and shoot over. Burma. Demon Park Birmingham. Hi. Dad went their separate up watch out for minority banks. What not on The. Larry Larry Miller the Great Larry Miller started the Road trip. All right good to see my. Taking the kid to Pop Warner, football. Football asking for man. Baseball's fine better for pussy sport. All right. Should we bring in? Begley junior yeah. Apparently, there's some buster Posey guy already playing baseball giants is great. It's great. Right and there's a sportswriter buster only. Thank you ED vaguely gum self a new show on NBC. Outlaw got Jimmy Smits good. To See you at always a delight. Yes, it is. It is for me. Ed House we'll talk TV and. How's how's the crusade going? You know it's going good. I'm having a good time I'm enjoying myself. I'm going around the country I've got like three careers. Now acting career that I have all these speaking engagements, green speeches around the country. Then I do some green product endorsement. By doing good and. I, support some of these green companies. So I've got you know not just one but three careers enjoying all thrifts be nice for you because for everyone else we have to make this endorsement you know dilemma you want him either wants you to hold up a beer. You think there's any kids watching our that we hold up a coke and you wonder if there's any fat kids watching right for you whatever product you're holding up, it's going to ultimately be good for the Earth by washing your car, which is using an ounce of water nothing from the hose number you're raising. Stuff that's right. Whatever whatever you indoors or whoever approaches you it's going to be something. It's not gonna be for chewing tobacco that people do whatever it is. You can make your money from the endorsement and being being the good graces of the big man upstairs it's nearly all good companies to come to me. Then we go a vetting process and find the greenest of the green and then support those companies and that's the way we do it. We find the people who are you know deep dark dreams that are just liking you must be excited about. All this electric car business. Yeah. Our companies like sort of away car companies really hustling to catch up with you and one another to be and I I saw a commercial for the. News story actually, I was a little disappointed in this, but you tell me what you think. I saw new story for the Chevy volt and it was like the Chevy volt forty, one, thousand dollars not exactly. The price sticker shock with the Chevy volt was on the news in and then it said you got to seventy five, hundred dollar rebate back from the government. So we're getting close to thirty thousand dollar car and then they said but much higher price than its competition, the Honda. Civic and you. Know, the I think they mentioned Honda Civic and maybe a Toyota tercel or something like and it's like. Well, those are gasoline. powered. Cars is all electric car that's not the competition. The Chevy volt is the best of both worlds I think because it's pure electric for the first forty, fifty miles. So the other cars won't do that the internal combustion engine on a previous or some of these other cars coming on. Constantly don't get forty fifty miles of pure electric those other vehicles, right. So that's really good Ford also has a pure electric there's station car they're coming out with and I'm going to try one of those come November when those come out get one of those Ford Station cars and they've got the motor trend car of the year two. They've got that the Ford fusion which in car it's like a little mini van boxy little van you can deliver. Groceries in it, you can have run a business with it or you can use that. You can keep the seat Senate and take a lot of people around a lot team six people maybe or something arts but yeah. But it's a little van is called the station car believe and I'm GonNa get one in November and give it a try, but it looks to be a good car so. Vance they use in Europe. Yes. Hands it looks just like that Rodham they've like tighter streets and they're little smarter than we are, and by the way we're into customizing are fans you can't customize one of those vans. Let about the molestation potential. Oh. Yeah. Because you you you. What you do is you get the tradesmen version doesn't have any windows on. Okay. And then give Limo Tint in the rare I put foil up. But that's what we call Ital- and the business. To foil the railway like certain about green molesters. Yeah. Yeah. Sure. Sure. That's why you get get the tradesmen. You'll be fine. Station car is Iraq and tradesmen and have it well insulated. Outside. Man We hope that the day when Theresa Golan Megan's Law Dot Com and punched her address just green dots the screen. Rain molesters so. it's really about battery technology it is. But now with the lithium ion like. May, probably in that Mike but certainly in the cell phone and the little this is all lithium ion now in computers and everything, and there's so many watts per kilogram with those lithium ion and the charge time is pretty good. So now they can really go some distance with these cars. That's why the Tesla car is what it is. That's why. Nissan leaf is coming out. That's why the Ford Electric is coming out, and the Ford makes so much sense using the state of the art batteries and all that. Now now, what is the ultimate for you because I know there's this sort of thing that people discuss in their sort of no free lunches and nature's correct. He says, you're. So now you have a plug in car, but if you have a coal. Powered plant that ranking the power to power the car. Then we're still not winning this game. We've made a step forward, but we're not we're not it's it's not the end game. Here's a good thing with that number. One one great thing about this. A couple of great things about electric one is you cannot make gasoline on the roof of your house, but you can't make electrons on the roof of your house because. I'm doing right now that what what that takes you into though of course, there's people like me you can afford to put solar on the roof. So let's put that aside for second atom, the average Joe or Jane who's able to Ford one of these electric vehicles and get the electric car now is it the same amount of pollution instead of being there near the Grand Canyon at that? Airasia. Planned or the The Utah plant is just moving to another state or is it less pollution more pollution? It's actually less for the following reasons number one there's an efficiency with electric vehicle twenty, five percent of the gasoline us in a city like L. A. With regular internal combustion car you stopped you're not going anywhere right electric car using Zippo number two you can if you have the cleaner powerplants, cleaner coal plants and everything power plants. Controlling one smokestack easier than controlling a million tail pipes and three and most importantly most people are gonNA drive during the day in charge at night off peak charging efficient time they got these huge generators, the size of this building that a making power. Indeed, they pump water uphill at night from Lake can stay till like use near here and then let it run down during peak hours and use that power. Yeah. They have excess power from the grid cheap power that's like three. Cents a kilowatt hour two cents and they pump water uphill then use it. They have that availability for all the air conditioning coming on all the laserjet printers and everything coming on all the people in power in their offices that cuming laundry all that stuff during the peak hours one to five PM. So he is very efficient time. I'm not saying it's without environmental cost, but it's a much smaller carbon footprint now, and if you ever thought about this before, is this all just? Let me humming to me. But so tell me if this is possible with the technology that's in place today. If you lived out here in southern California and another sunshiney state. Could you charge your car overnight from just what makes it onto your roof in the solar power collectors that are on your roof at this point? If. You have a hell of a lot of panels you need to run a house, my size, a sixteen, Hundred Square Foot House you need for just that house about three or four thousand watts of power just for the house. Now you need electric car, you need another three thousand watts of power to charge unique six kilowatts to took charge a carnage just say you only wanted to power the car, we do it from. Just, what was on your roof? Yes. If you bank it either bank it in the grid during the Sunday Times by but that'd be net metering or you can and batteries. Why are we going to get a little further ahead in the solar power collection plan I know they're doing solar powered shingles. So doesn't have just a bunch of square tiles put up on your roof but when are we going to get a little more? Effective efficient or what have you solar power has been around for some time and I don't feel like other than putting a bunch of. Blocks on your on your roof essentially that much different really than it was thirty years ago I mean and I know it's more effective but it is Simpson bounds but here's the thing you mentioned. You're correct. They have those wonderful solar shingles. Now they have these amorphous coatings that are lot cheaper to do. But what's the drawback with that? There's always a drawback they only put out about half the power, any of those. Amorphous systems and know those things poly crystalline the kind of have in my roof where they grow a crystal, slice it super thin put them in negative and positive N. P. Positions, dope them. They do all this stuff to them all this work. It's a tremendous amount of work imagine growing crystal slicing at the super thin wafers. This big. It's a tremendous amount of work wasn't to DOS and had the hydroponic farmers. Washington. has there been this kind of. ood. Kind Of. Expensive but they are even in the polycrystalline world Montecristo lender getting cheaper the coatings will be very cheap now they have to get two things right with that they have to get the cost down with the coatings and the quality control. So they last a while because now they don't last as long it's only half the wattage and they're not sure how long they last and we say coding could actually. Membrane on Yes your house, and then Membrane Jenner and that's they've been doing that for a while. But those the ones they've been doing for while really don't last long those pocket calculators with the real cheap little solar things that looks just like an led. It's kind of like an led looking thing that's a solar panel. Those are amorphous panels and it's just a coding and they don't last that long. Indeed. There are some solar backpacks gadgets out there that will never in the life of that backpack and. Some people going to be angry me saying this but the truce she'll set you free. You will never get the wattage out of that backpack that you put into making it really never. Yeah. The the ones I have my roof I can promise you the nine hundred ninety panels. I've you know they're into their second life or more of getting the energy out that was put in to make them maybe the third or fourth life you know. So I'm really getting some power. What do you think about allergy? Algae I should say algae is a winner to make bio-fuels healthier near Salt and see where this guy's making. The fuel from algae he's got this fish pond where he's has catfish or something. So it sees multitasking there with property. He's got fish and he's got the algae, and then he makes fuel from that and we drove around the vehicle at works. Algae fuel is something that works today two, thousand and ten August their. Cars are driving around on it from algae. Yeah. I talked to I think gail banks about as a guy does. Turbo minority. Banks, turbo charging. Actually. Turbo charging and he does diesel and he said that biodiesel from algae and I said, well, how big with these farms have to? Go vertically on some of this new. Okay. Yeah. I'll look into that. He you had a question I was Gonna ask at about his. Other. Two careers but I don't know if you've seen this youtube clip ed got into it with a guy from. Fox News Oh, I had a bad day I got apologize and I don't know if I crack staff can can perhaps find it Fox News it was the day before two days before Thanksgiving the day before Thanksgiving I was on my way to my sister's funeral. So I was in a bad God now I didn't. I didn't want to get into that. Why is that relevant? That very day I was on the way to relevant if. Around I was in a bad mood but they didn't know that and so I got into it just hearing from this guy again, how all these scientists are saying the climate change isn't real and so I just didn't have a lot of patients missile I wasn't in the mood. I got into it. We should I'm not gonNA laugh you can unless it's about it. Except for I can't hear it through my headphones so. Audio trouble. Yeah. Well tell we correct that. Let me just say this my feeling about whether the scientists are right or wrong as who cares we should be doing it that way. Anyway, right. We should be collecting and harnessing the sun and the wind and geothermal and everyone should be recycling and we should be working on batteries, extend the range of electric cars, exotics, academical g even if the if the fucking scientists totally that's the way to care just do it this way. SNICKERED got four and oil, and we clean up the air in our cities what you need we are right. How could we be so foolish? Trysofi and our rouce right idiots. Let's go there. Anyway I absolutely love. All right. Sorry. Studies at scientists have done something wrong. It will be found out in there appears will determine it. I don't think geologists should write papers about being an actor, a newscaster nor should. I don't get your information from me folks running newscasts or get it from people with. The name peer reviewed studies at Keyboards, and if it comes out in peer reviewed studies that there are some cooking, the books that will come out will you know senator inhofe has a list of seven hundred climate scientists who say this global warming? They've got problems with the whole theory of global warming I put it to not not seven hundred climate scientists. There's weatherman another people in there. There are some climate scientists sizes no review. It is in no Stewart quit saying that the. Oversaw viewed studies go to Science Magazine Folks Nature Magazine go to somebody you trust National Geographic's don't get it from you or me don't get it from rush limbaugh Glenn Beck of scientists people with. This is mind to this. I had a princeton professor on my what does he? What does he have a degree in? He's a physicist. Prof I want people who are. Climate Science Quiz Simon scientists are going to tell you the difference between a cork and a bose on. He's not going to tell you there's Absolutely. No question. You'll always be down to be stepped up. The debate is typical but not denial you guys over the debate is over on a global warming the debate is very clear. It's out there in the scientific community repeat reviewed studies. Peer Review. That's all you need to do. Don't get it from you or may you live the green life on a day basis individually and personally fine I got no problem with that but. Why Do you have let. ME. Explain what I'm talking about if cap and trade goes through, I'm going to have to have a warning label on my house. There's going to be an edit and what? Is An energy audit on House. Yes Energy in your home. Okay I just had an energy. Bills to louder energy I am not allowed to buy incandescent light bulbs. By what year are you not allowed to buy? What Year in the future? What does? The government's telling me on May not have been candidates. We can't have smoggy vehicle through the air in La closed. Begley I'm surprised that you kind of American belief that the government should come right into a private how? You go into signed lightbulb. What isn't easy bake oven the kids an easy bake. A light bulb is a little mini. To you bless technology. Around Your nonsense here yet again on. The Air La is twice as clean as what's in nineteen seventy. Why can a good technology? With Logan How's everything to do with good sides to Google has everything to do with finance cleaning up there you people wouldn't war to clean around. The catalytic immersing to do with globe. No. But you say court said it about seatbelts and airbags you couldn't possibly afford lie. Just you guys live my argument view these lies about. The cost. Do you have an insurance policy on your health? Insurance a fire policy on your house one. Yes. Why don't you have an insurance policy on global warming that does this cleans up there in Houston. Bakersfield in La lessons our dependence I wanna be left alone. Pushed around by the government not allowed to comment circuit can. Destroy haven't proved And the ocean you can do whatever you want but you cannot destroy the comments. It's very old loss. All low key would you walked in the studio but I, thought you were to you're having your t your proper Britta. Times. That's spirited I. Liked that. Hero. Strike that was. Let me explain what I got wrong and what I believe. He got one thing he got wrong and. The light bulbs. And buy cases of light bulbs and you can give them to you yourself your children grandchildren you can have incandescent light bulbs of the next twenty generations. You can buy the after two, thousand, twelve the same way you can have a Mustang, you can have a nineteen. There's control on cars from certain year. They're not gonNA take away anybody's Mustang or any their pre smog control cars you can have them and drive them wherever you want the same with light bulbs. You can have light bulbs, your great grandchildren they can have them, pass them on you just not gonNA, make any more of them of certain wattage is after certain. That's all because they wanted he was using a scare tactics and you call. Yes, saying I'M GONNA, come into his house and take his. Light. Bulbs nobody's GonNa take anybody's Mustang. I don't see Meryl Streep now looking at her looking at her incandescent light bulbs, not the ball. No. Choice. I let me get on my high horse for sex go ahead. I got one thing. Wrong. We'll tell you the minute I don't I hate the government but I also hate these guys on Fox and say, these Jack booted thugs are gonNA come into your house and I. It's your nine millimeter. Next thing you know they're going to outlaw butter knife. Bullshit slippery. Slope Bolsheviks. Here's the thing I used to be a builder. There's something called codes. Do you think you get to just build the house in L. A. or anywhere? Just Willy Nilly Oh fuck now there's a million codes. There's codes about the foundation and earthquakes. There's tons of codes involving setbacks zoning. There's electrical codes and plumbing codes. It's one huge code that's what building is. This would merely add a couple of more that makes sense about using relation double paned windows a little are gone gattison there. It's so straightforward and it's the kind of code that you would benefit. From versus many other codes which are a lot of dust in the win. This is stuff that would actually save you money you sinking a bunch of Tae San's into bedrock that you don't actually need because you're already on solid ground you literally dumping money into a hole in the ground, but you using the dual glazed windows and solar panels actually does save you money will pay for itself. So this notion that, hey, you don't want the government getting involved the government or read all big have department of building and safety. You have to go to a place called planned permit. They have to look at your plans and they tell you know you can't build the house or yes, you can. But you're going to do a garage and your master bedrooms above the garage than you have to double up the drywall because we need to our burn rating and the door to your garage and needs to be on pneumatic closer to our burn rating on it, and you need to put a gate around your pool and you go. We don't have kids I don't care. You need a gate around your pool, I'm sterile and. I'm a lesbian I don't care code says gate around the pool. That's so we're living in one big code just like as you alluded to the cars, what happens we want crumple zones we want airbags went passive restraint systems will all these safety features well, what happens well, Lecarr costs an extra three thousand dollars tough shit. That's the cost of doing business, but it saves lives and everyone agrees all right I'm glad I'm driving a car with an air bag led government got involved sometimes it get involved. It's not a good thing other times involved. Nobody. Wanted to see that was McNamara's idea nobody would buy nobody wanted it I it was a good idea leave with all the codes involving buildings in houses in specially L. A. that they've not factored in more they're starting to now but really got more involved with this aspect of it and look at the turn of you don't have these building codes. The town is called port-au-prince go there and see what lack of building codes gives you. They had a lesser earthquake in Chile than the one in Haiti but look at what happened Haiti the just built a you want. To build a building go ahead give me one hundred and eighty dollars and you know that's the price on graft and corruption. You can build anything you want, and that's the way it was in Haiti. You want a certain amount of codes a lot of them are very good and so I think there's good codes out there as well and some that are pretty soon weird Mr Act about climate science, which is what this argue how this arguments started out that there's a disagreement among climatologists which they're sort of isn't because what you were saying is a lot of other. Studies Yeah Right. Those little slice of life from two thousand ten. I. Love those Gammy too and it featured a little. You worked on the show so much better. I'll how dare you and actually I was already working there by then. Jokes on you. I was I was an intern, but still I did stuff. You would make it a costco runs and Matt try to buy Booze separately he did he successfully bought it several. Water, cool at a real. Yeah. If anybody else wants to listen to it, check it out. It's a podcast with Kaelin. Mike Dawson Matt Fundraiser in Gary Smith, and we talked about working at the Kurla show and the good old days of working here. We're interns things like that. It's fun. So I love Gary showed how dare you? All right. We have one more clip for everybody and it's Iran tomatoes game from twenty. It is indeed, this is the sixty third installment of the game. This is a banking themed. What Adam cruel show seventeen twenty David Steinberg met actually Brian Bishop, this December of two, thousand. Fifteen. Every loves rotten tomatoes game check it out. I shall we play the game? Let's do it. Come. With fresh. Also A. Very quickly, probably something that's more offier just because it's not entertaining but was I talking about the Coen brothers with you a while back probably maybe says one produces. Writes directs or was that a both right one produces directs right Typically but I said Brian. Eastern guys work together and you said it's not quite apples and apples. NOOSES in one direction they're registered. You're talking about your credits right for for rode hard without came up. I was saying about the a atoms thing and you guys were talking about how people are credited and I said, well, the Coen brothers right interact and you said, well, one produces one rights or something typically get credited together because they're they're directors guild like the skis they're like, yeah. But anyway, sorry, what was the what? I was watching the end of for old man as is written directed by the Coen says out then Colin Right Okay right there you right movie. I realized it was probably just a rush to shit on a point. Yeah. Okay. Caught up in my shitting. Okay. Sorry. All right. big movie theaters. Listen I wasn't shooting trying to help explain which breath. So big movie theaters. This weekend called the big short, which is about the guys that. shorted the housing market and made a lot of money. So I'm taking inspiration from that, we're going to do movies about big banks and the stock market. Okay I up nineteen eighty-seven film I that. Stars. Michael Douglas, and Charlie Sheen greed is good. Is the Credo of the aptly named Gordon Gecko. Anti. Hero. Oliver Stone's Wall Street Well this is certainly before Oliver Stone One insane this prime stone and I used to look forward to his movies like Tarantino movies now. Yeah. I was wasn't my era but I look forward to Tarintino movies and I can imagine how you would all movies of that era. There's some grey movies. Yeah. But it was an Oliver Stone move back. It wasn't. It wasn't just these guys are growing outer space in the savage his move, and you know it's like Oh i WanNa see what he does with the doors or whatever IT S. My favorite is from that era of his movies JFK, with guess, a lot of run for a lot of his other platoons a great movie. Obviously I love JFK. I love the doors but maybe that's VAL kilmer tease fantastic in to. Jim Morrison. All right. critics liked it had to like it. What's the like perfect movie for the time I'm going to say Eighty four percents. Oh, I said eighty six. It's a little bit I was going with eighty six and it dropped down with over eighty five and I dropped. Atom. You'll be glad you drop down it certified fresh seventy eight percents. Oh. Yeah. Not that great of a movie I watched it recently for the first time. I think maybe the time I'd have been a little more. impactful but it doesn't hold up quite as good as people remember very data vary dated how it's super everything computer feels that way and everyone's hairstyle and and all that. But I still think so good movie. It all right. Next up nineteen eighty-three comedy that stars Dan Aykroyd and Eddie Murphy and ends in that great scene on the. Connex as they're buying and selling frozen concentrated orange juice futures. Trading places. They actually made a law to prevent that from happening the trading spaces ordering places affect amid a lot to prevent that I have no idea what the critics thought I'm they're not always. Big On comedies, but he can't find any fault with this comedy. Have you. Thought now it's been a while it's a really good movie and really good comedy. There's the one seen that stands out as one of the worst scenes and one of the best movies is the scene on the train where they are in costume and they're like and Jamie Lee Curtis Bryan leader Jose in the one. Moving Other than that. It's a great movie and that one sticks out so bad. A bad bad scene. All right I'm going to say. It's a comedy seventy, nine percent shit ninety. Certified fresh at eighty six percents. Things Getting Damn, close. Okay All right next up is a nineteen ninety, four film from the Cohen Brothers starring Tim Robbins as a mail clerk who gets promoted into the boardroom screwball comedy about big business The hudsucker proxy. Friend Chris Dharga. was in the hammer needs to do construction with was in this moving and I feel part he was walking. Tim Down, the floor and sort of explaining the way that the game worked on. This. Ninety four camped but I I never figured I never saw the whole movie and I never could figure out what anyone thought of it other than it was cool. But I didn't know if it was good. You see the I just saw recently for the first time. So I kinda sat with fresh eyes. Might Newman's in this. I actually really enjoyed it. A silly movie we'll take a farce almost fantastical in some ways that is Certain point some some extraordinary things happen but I like to. Shine. That the audience sorry that the critics may have liked it more than the audience because maybe it was all too far out there for your facial comedy. At the box office now did not do well, but critically, I say did well. At eighty one percent do I. said eighty five to cool for the ruins of Adam might be closer. The hudsucker proxy is rotten. No fifty eight percents. Should've gone with my get. was to hit for the room I think this was A movie. That's all too out there like you said, and the critics weren't on board with some of the fantastical. They'd like just the craziness of it. It's going for that thirties screwball. Howard Hawks type thing, and I think a lot of the critics were. Brian go for five, eighty, five. Oh, it's close I think your head, but it's close here. We got okay next up. Two Thousand Film starring. Vin Diesel. About Stock Traders, a college dropout who runs a casino and ends up working for a company selling penny stocks and scanning people out of their money the movie is boiler room. this Vin with hair right? I think he's frankly sore. That's. Another Movie Lawyer Movie, right? Yeah. Jesus never saw it. Damn you'd like this movie. This is this is. This is the opening scene with Ben Affleck where he's trying to do the glengarry Glen Ross. Good in that room yeah. But Brian, you could be trying to steer me. Love this movie. Since. You're kind of thing man. all right I'm going to say I. Didn't see it. I didn't hear a lot of. Great about it never conversation and never doesn't come up on cable and it's it's after glengarry going Rosh, right? Yeah. Several years. I'm. GonNa say they compare it to that? It wasn't favorable and thus? Fifty. Four percent ooh, I said fifty five this is the movie that should be a lot higher, but it's GonNa come in somewhere in the fiftieth probably not a bad movie. boiler-room is fresh at sixty seven percents. It's not a bad movie. Zion there's some good stuff in here is some silly stuff but Cats, guardians like that seventy eight percent. All right. Let's come down to this. Brian's got a lead but not insurmountable. Here we go. Is Related I well, he should so that films related to our next film because it's the same penny stock scams. This. One covered more recently two thousand Thirteen Leonardo Di Caprio starring in the Martin Scorsese Film as stock broker Jordan Belfort who became filthy rich selling penny stocks. The movie is the wolf of Wall Street. Like, this movie sought Sawn. Liked it. The scene where he and and Joan Heller having their quayle fight is one of the funniest things ever committed to film. Yeah. Even like part and tastic I like the part where he thought he was driving his Lamborghini Kunti. WHAT'S NOT was but not. Whatever it was there's a lot to like about this realm Matthew. mcconaughey cameo at the beginning was fucking great. Chester bump thing. Now. Think you say Scorsese. Always. Wonder always it's always. People get compared to themselves, which is always a little bit scary because it's like the Casino Goodfellas Syndrome now and. Scorsese gets compared to himself. So I get to deduct a couple points for that cheese. We're all knotted up here Brian. I think you have a slightly all right either way I'm going to say. Eighty nine percent said ninety three. This is a great moving. Wolf of Wall Street. Fresh. At seventy seven. Oh. Demands. Them that's them raising the Scorsese bar too high right. Really good. Move. Scorsese had never done anything prior to this movie it'd be one hundred and one percent is. Movie, it would not be three hours long which this movie. Three hours long Matt's bitter. It's great. But it's see what's names, boobs. Not for three hours. All right. Well, let's let's tally the shit. Man could be going for the forecast. Is this four with week to row. Brian Sixty seven Sixty one. That lower at your head going into the last you had like a two point point three and four. Damn. altro baby. Game The new. Year. Brian I suggest your resolution would be to see for a win win of these things start studying and Go by your in colleges and getting a cat scans. Look inside everything's working. Tell the pull that dipstick out. Just check the oil. That's all. Banking themed around of the Ron Tomatoes. Game the most played game in Adam cruel show history. We love and we even did it live very recently. David Kettner. Good Time Great. Round Yeah. Also, you guys made up for Kettner live sure without actually working. So like healed, my soul based on the Kirkland laughs incident where the former producers unnamed didn't actually instruct men how to bring up the sound for a participant. It's okay. So thanks for bringing that off full circle and making things right with. Of course, the last time I saw NA he did it. We did a live show Rainn Wilson was there and he made us put a table on the stage and forced to eat dinner to dinner. Yeah. Yeah. We gotta we gotta revisit episode only aired as part of a podcast one premium and I think we played portion portion of the classics but maybe play a larger portion next week I. Agree. Let's do it. Let's write that down. People need to hear that also some live shows or only podcast one premium we could probably tap into people may not have heard in the regular feeds. Yeah. Let's get some exclusive content on this show. Down Iraqi people need to hear that one. 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#6.4 - BEER - Chris Forsberg

"Did top it up because we are about to kick it off. I'm going to introduce our next guest so you go and grab a beer both the people listening as well as my next guest because this is because everybody enjoys roadrunners beer with jared deandre also want to ask you on the front end of this episode. Please review listen enjoy but just give me five stars even if you hate the podcast because I just want people to know about this podcast. I'm all about diversity and you know when people heard that I was GonNa do a podcast. They expect kind of automotive. They just expect cars. They expect kind of automotive industry or announcing in obviously expect beer. That's going to happen but I wanted to secretly call this beer but also because everybody enjoys roadrunners roadrunner run on the road. It's about travel. It's about the journey. It's about all of that. So please go rate. Give Five stars to my podcast now. Previous episodes of this podcast featured many different people automotive world but also just dropping one in the middle doing five point five with my buddy Ali. Asha worker more. We're bouncing around two wheels four wheels and here. We are lanny back. What a lot of people know me as in the drifting world so had to bring somebody that always gets the win a lot of people's minds and of course in my heart and there's a gentleman that I truly love. He's a great friend of mine off the track on the track. We've shared the most amount of time and just we just you know. The drifting traveling circus is is a family. But obviously you're going to gravitate towards people that you just enjoy the time a little more and I enjoy many peoples times but this gentleman was traveled all over. We've shared many last many tears. Many tears of joy tears of anguish. But just I truly enjoy this gentleman's company and we. We partied together. We've cried together. We've shared tattoos together. And I love this gentleman. So He's part of the family. He's three time formula drift champion. Chris the Force Forsberg so he's grabbed a beer. I've grabbed a beer. Chris is sitting somewhere in a bathroom. I think it was you. You sitting in a bathroom yeah. Was it a back room or a bathroom? Oh I thought you were at the bathroom at the circle. K around the corner. Okay got it. You're in the back room got it. Yeah I'm in a room of the shop because know I'm Dan. Cutting Brian but You know mega right yeah. Happy hour chats a beer You know you're working for the day like near ideal guys. I'll be in the bathroom. The bathroom well for the next hour. don't bother me do that. Del Taco ran right through me. We got some. We got some bad impossible down at the DEL TACO and last Sienna right right at the gate again. People expect automotive but here we are getting back. The drifting low hanging fruit dude. Just hours ago you dino twenty twenty formula drift comp car and what were the horsepower numbers that I saw? Well seventy to the ground our And thirteen thirteen. Holy Banana cakes. I mean do you. What do you know the records? As of like who has. Who's WHO's ever. I think Dean Carney posted something ridiculous years ago high. He was like fourteen. S which is pretty. I mean if you really think about it. Di- goes got. Everybody smoked because he did like twelve. Eighty in twenty twelve. Yeah twelve eighty two thousand twelve. Yeah that was the two S. four thirty correct. Yeah so like when he came over and twelve that maniac machine he literally what I did today. Eight years ago that is just absolutely bonkers. But so you know here you are. T are engine. Three Seventy Z. We are currently under the kind of quarantine cove nineteen lock it down. You've been in the lab You your boy you know. Diamond Fab Jimmy. I concepts all those all those gentlemen. You've been working remotely and they've been in your ear telling you what to do though right. I mean like I've been putting a car together Out here by myself Not Entirely by myself you know. I don't the hand and a new teammate. Has Been Working in shuffle time. Jimmy came now for the first half of the bill We didn't have the engine yet. We're just of getting the car back together cleaning lines believing things and like getting ready And then we did. A budget changes in the last month. Or so Russell my Spotter and suspension Guy Russell Water Russell Walker Texas Ranger just to be specific de. Yeah Yep and Yeah he redid suspension points on the car so we put a whole new supreme in the back of the car We did a A new quick change cool. We're not this isn't a tech bill. We're not doing a boring tech talk. I feel like we've already had like five of them. We've already had five of these conversations but they're like black garage and like what's going on. Hey form drift headed blackout. So what are you drink Chris? What's your beer of choice? Yeah what do you think do biggby l? You'RE SO EXOTIC. You're drinking the sweet out specifically only be on your podcast. No that is not true. You're drinking the tears photo From the person's name rhymes with spam. Melvin and it was like you know handle I'm yeah. Don't worry I gotTA cover. That is the tiers of Post Malone that you're drinking I appreciate that as post Malone drink. You're GonNa Make Fun of that. We just need to drink together so I am currently drinking a beer of never happy for its Drakkar from Fargo North Dakota but I think you'll appreciate the name it's called Gasm Echo guys. I got. I got a pretty good beer in the fridge. I should show you a friend of ours brought by. I've been wondering when the drinking today might be a good day so next time you go on some weird ran. Eyal right over the bridge. Six so echo at Gaza from Fargo North Dakota Really Dope graphics on it but breaking it down Sicher Mosaic House. Geese PALE to row flaked. Oats careful multidose. These are one of those rants. If you'RE GONNA go get them beer numb joking. Don't go anywhere don't do it. Seven percent don't don't leave. Don't leave a soldier behind. You got a nice frosty cold crispy boy there. You No rose. Yeah Kristie boy flowing out of here. They Forsberg again again if to. You're a heavily branded right now. For those that could see this this might just live in the ether but you got BC racy Mishimoto parts you got Canaan air filters jd Pistons Radiant Dorian the bathrooms well because we're in the bathroom so because we're under quarantine. Forsberg ran out of toilet paper. So he's purely using cannon air filters as toilet paper you just their washable. You re oil washable Spray on there. And it's great then we're gonNA define what's what's your most memorable trip You and I had together. Can you think of anything off the top of your head something stupid? There's one that kind of stands out in my mind. Yeah Well God. Dang there's a few like there's there's so many FDA's as well like if you WANNA take out of the equation Right Abu Dhabi or maybe China. Some of the early ones are cool ones but there are so many like oh. You're talking about cinema and point ten thousand six he's talking. Irwindale and you know there's so many right any stick out where I look like look like an ass where you look at all of them all very good down one that stands out in my mind is is a classic trip and it was just totally off the radar which would be Not Dr but Puerto Rico Puerto Rico. Where else did we go? Costa Rica. Where did we go that island? Where now where do we go? No go ahead. Where we're von where we took Mickey Edwards and Tony and in Vaughn and the right L. Salvador El Salvador. That was that was a wild trip. One stands out in my mind. It's on the drift alliance video too. I wasn't a total buffoon. It was Tony Angelo. That didn't want beans on his plate. Tony Angelo former said no Bush. The story goes that we're in El Salvador were standing at a fairly decent resort and Tony Angelo former formula drift driver eventually judge now motor trends star again drift alliance drift trip along with a couple. Hot Boys Dub Ernie veal and the apex there. Too we'll stunt riders now. They're very accomplished. Which is pretty sad to see. They're they're kind of careers. Grow but Tony. Angelo does not like beans and there was a language barrier here lost in translation. And the case is that. Tony asked multiple times for no beans on his plate breakfast. We're in this nice little COSC- look at the ocean. Well unfortunately the plate came back with beans once again and Tony and I was kind of egging him on a little bit and Tony just a little bit. And he blames me for him snapping. He's like played overhead full plate. I said No. Beans smashes the plate on the ground. Zero Chill Zero Chill. Yeah that was pretty funny. And then you gotTa then you laugh and I was like this is stupid and just like finish breakfast man. Just like they're nothing like is great. Yeah that was that was an eventful one and I remember again. All my highlights of in the video is falling on the slide. Falling down this falling down that and it was just meet is falling falling all over the place and another another great ship. Another great trip in my mind was Was New Zealand. Rebel drifters Tyler mcquarry. Went over there Ryan Turk and And yourself and Obviously Mad. Mike was there. It was his event but notably the thing is that we were. We were asked to go bungee jumping. We had the opportunity to go bungee jumping and the story goes that base. Okay Yeah you yeah you interview Chris. Tell please tell us your experience so yeah. We're getting ready to go bungee jumping and I'm immediately like I don't WanNa do that. I don't this is my thing my I wouldn't have signed up for it but like whatever and like everyone starts talking about it and You Know Church I wanNA to do and you're like oh I don't WanNa do it. You know we're like. Oh cool all right so none of us want to do this by kind of show and hang out. Whatever they all they go through the tower. You know let's just gets to go check it out like all right. We're GONNA Tower. I'm already like I hate it. I hate all this strike like walking on that tiny little thing under the bridge to the POD bay like okay like everybody just Kinda hang out in jail and you know like we had all basically not doing right like yeah like yeah. We're not going. I'm not John Jump. Fight this you know like like if you don't want to do then we don't have to. And so the way they do it is the Bundy's set up from the biggest guys. The small guys keep pulling the strings off right and so the first guy they call up and like I don't know whatever his name was Nico go read. Meco read is a huge molly dude in in New Zealand still drifts. He's a maniac driver but he's larger than me so they they have the most amount of Bungee bungee ropes for him. You're like nope not doing it. And it's like like all right. We're the good guy and then Problem that's actually not. That's neat right. Defend himself and So then Move into Jared and they call up. Jared Jared Book and just like run to action like you mother ever totally like sign up and I know if if Jerry Jones is bridge. I have to jump off his fridge. I can't back down now. I can't let him have that overweight. And I sat there and wet bullet next like thirty minutes. Waiting for my turn and sure enough jumped off that bridge. I had every second of it and now we can talk about it because the the story that like the worst stories of the best stories and and Yeah Bungee jumping is not my favorite thing. But there's no way like going to New Zealand and hanging homeys and getting this opportunities. Pro Bono was paid for right. Like Red Bull took care of it and we got the jump and I got to outshine you so that was cool so do you do you hate or love your nickname the force. Levin do you. Yeah why I mean because okay so actually Out of why don't ask anymore star wars like new livery or anything like that like you really. Don't really actually soup for eternity. Yeah right yeah I keeping the fourth aspect of IT and Yeah da going into cars. What's what's a vehicle that you wish. You never got rid of what vehicle you kind of bummed because you sold your championship convertible you've sold gotten rid of too many vehicles but what's vehicle. Maybe you'll be glad. I unloaded the car. They didn't need it right. I have to three seventy already Convertible car and the only one I would say that I wish I still had. Yeah because you did get rid of the SR Z. To thank John that that car went all the way to South East Asia and now the car that was like my first car and FD album convertible car. Like I just have so many like high low memories in that car my purse championship in that car and I would like to see that. One back Restored back to its like o-9 that up and everything you know like Coal from redline rations. Who BOUGHT MY CAR? And there's you know we're putting it back the two thousand sixteen livery And Everything. Oh you are For for him. Yeah he's GonNa run the twenty sixteen setup right the same set up your car. He also bought like eight pro or for one D one cars. I know he owns my favorite one which the top secret has fifteen. Yeah say he's Got Miki's car you got Kazama like over five Green Bean He got like one of the as a as he got one of the team arms. Like he's building probably they world. I drove me then. That's so sick. Really Cool Dude. Yeah what if you could if you could build any vehicle outside of what you're doing nissans and we talked about this on Formula Drifts. high-octane episode. But what what would you? What would you build outside of a Nissan Z? Like do you do. You admire anybody else's car and you're like I like to build a Mustang or I'd like to build like Osborne supra or something like that like do you have any probably just by the Rotary Got. Softbank for really when the Rotary now. That's true so do you like. Fd like a three row would be awesome. But you see kyle. Mohand Kinda struggling there a little bit. He could get those horses just getting that all dial together like do you. You Canada's wouldn't WanNa build become fishing day. I would want to build in. Yeah that's true. What podcasts are you listened to if any at all I'm really looking to many lately? No no yeah I I. Honestly Joe Rogan Bond Sh Traveling but like haven't been traveling Driving many places and so things like that. It's like whatever what What's the first thing you're going to do when you get a quarantine like where's the first place you're GONNA eat Really want go to the bike. Almost cry I mean like I like super bombed during Long Beach Time. Normally they're hanging on like I'm chatting with Chris created. That's why we did a little like like party like on my Instagram we raised a couple of hundred bucks with charities cool but yeah like like sucks like beach like my favorite event. Yeah so yeah definitely like you know. And he's he's bummed out. Of course you know. Pike's goes down and they all they want to hang out with all their friends and family and so I'm just to go back over. Yeah Pike Bar Cherian fourth in Long Beach if you're listening to this Best Bar the world. I mean absolutely Chris Rees the owner killer dude just just all around him and his wife and his whole family so Rad What what. What are you listening to right now in the garage? What's what's kind of like hot on the button and crank cranking for the past two days. There's something Boeing Marathon. I don't know why he didn't I had to look it up. He didn't He wasn't born and didn't die on this day or weekend in January. I don't know what it is. But they're like doing it like big Bowie marathon and I'm not upset about it. So He's been he's been through the afternoon and does Dylan Dylan you and Dylan. Hughes another form of computer for those. That don't know you guys sharing a lot of space a lot. I mean if if if you have the virus if Dylan has the virus you guys definitely have it together you guys you guys have been swapping spit been like four months of having it my four months out Walker Mary much Just work on cars and you know at Dara corn team. You know what I mean you know. I think everybody's got that yeah. Welcome to a blackout Cova. Petri dish garage. Yes are we're hanging out. Where would you Where would you like to visit again? We rattled off a few different places. Abu Dhabi drifting. He is marina but but personally I mean is there someplace you'd like to go I like to spend a little more time over in Europe. I've been a couple countries Never been to Spain. Barcelona Madrid things like that. Never been to I wonder if Germany once I was literally on the ground in Germany by twenty two hours whole event and everything. I like landed at like ten. Am went crash out of the hotel like five hours like a whole grid lifestyle Party Day night event and like party five. Am I way out in the morning at six? Great Great Segue speaking of grid life. Amazing event. We've we've gone now for quite a few years grid. Life has just grown into kind of a bit of a break in a party and I I had turned on the podcast and we talked about kind of some insane. No deals the fours align at road. Atlanta is probably. He said like the craziest most bonkers drift that he's ever done. Would you agree? That was kind of the craziest thing you've done especially in the in the party car in the fifty six four people holy crap. Okay so for those for those. That don't know breakdown grid life and then obviously the what you did And my favorite of all time and a Party THAT SURROUND TRACK RIGHT. And so you have on You Know Music Festivals You know going on deejays Banned fans rap bars Were you name it right and During the day as a full track session you got time attack wheel-to-wheel you got drifting and drifting has between Ryan along and like little teams ramps and things like that no competition a good old time and they come Sunday events pretty much clearer now Big shows are over and they'll come Sunday. They kind of like open up the talk a little bit to us and allow us to get No more high speed more You know hot laughs things like that and we have you know camera cars out there chasing us we are trying to push limits and say how fast cars and so wrote. Atlanta has a back strain that has an overcrowded king Which is where we lined up for as mind you if you go back and look at the video. We are entering before the burn outbox for the start line of trump in the video. Nick Swan standing where you basically leave the start line in. Fd Pro and your Jammie passed him in the F. Depressed art line now and so Dubbed the four the line. Because I'm saying knowing it. Stephen a try some real life where you go like back neck or let you go down the back straight and when you come over that little Chris than king on the right hander. You kinda like unwanted car and get it. Kinda settled out to the right and then transfer back on the throttle and driving down the hill. Push it left and we're basically like transferred back left like just after chicanes crafty and just drag it all the way in and we were heading. We were the first year. We're estimating our speed based on mph and deer and everything or coming like one forty one fifty We did a honest radar at like one of the one twenty seven but that was the next year camera cars so the first year. We're jam is in the second year. We're trying to coordinate with cameras. I was like a little slower. But we're still hitting almost one thirty That was definitely the dumbest thing I've done in a car. Really Melania would you do it again? I like draft tire in the grass. And it hooks up. You're going to come all the way down that hill. So you scare. You scared yourself. Would you do it again? I didn't think it was the dumbest thing and I'll never do it again at every time and obviously all the safety requirements. We've got helmets fully cades so cars have full cages. We're all wearing our helmets. And all the safety gear all that Hundred percent but still it would. It would just be a you know it could be potential or a gnarly crashes off speaking of gridlock more. What's that we're doing a tandem? That's right yeah. And that's why I without Bronx Clean Air. Yeah he's like front row and shit show Run headfirst into a mosh. Pit doesn't even know it to speak a mosh pit bloody noses. Andrew W K. That was probably one of your favorite shows. Yeah definitely Ended UP A game like Super Party. Put on a great show and He went for a ride in the car with him in the band around for a laugh and that was really fun. I really enjoyed that. Just like he just has like energy and like he's like super positive guys well like it's cool They're like GM perform. Now what are when when I asked you to be on this podcast you know I I sent tax to everybody and and you're Kinda like who do you have me on your basically. I sent the same text message to you. Von Turk few. You drifters in some people. Just kind of all it took was the first to respond response. That is why Ryan Turk was the first guest on the podcast. I'm glad to finally have you on here. Obviously and we're going to drop the boom but what kind of questions or kind of topics were you expecting for us to have kind of right now. 'cause got I don't really WanNa talk about like cars and all and all that stuff. That's our kind of symbiosis like our deal. But were more about like debauchery and drinking and like tripping home from Pike Bar. What were you expecting? What were you expecting you and I had to kind of talk about asking your car like working and stuff like that might have been talking about that crap all the time empties asked me about the car Now like no whole quarantine thing has been super frigging weird but like I gotta say like it's been it's been silly Sam same now right now jeeze every time. Do they get him? I can't help but been frigging great like the shop is better than ever. We're like productive or getting the business like set out more and Starting to make parts to merge Keshavan build more time dino like June the cars in Getting really doubt up and I literally like things are great having a Great Britain anytime you. I feel like on a better physician than ever. I understand that you know the whole. No Cohen is like very difficult or something happened in. That part sucks like racing. We'll to my wife to open a bottle of champagne by the way. What did you just? Elsa Skin Lit overhear yes Sunday Friday. Just won the mom championship all of a sudden even ever been the. She's undefeated right now. Mom Champ eighteen years in a row. I'm just trying to think of like some good times that we could share. I I'm looking at a A Picture on the wall from two thousand ten can't see the day. Looks like June six two thousand ten hall and OATES. We're in the Baltimore. Hey Doug Hall and oates one of the. It's probably like top. Three concert might even be the best concert I've ever been to it was. I don't know if I was the best like show I've ever seen but it was the best show that I've ever been to is the best. Securi- group I grew we had was in Spain. Thank we have. What thirty people there? Dude YEAH SO JUNE. Two thousand ten. This is post Formula Drift New Jersey. And do you remember? Who HERE WE GO? Statman remember who won that event? June June two thousand ten former New Jersey. Here we go a beautiful mind right now. Just Cadillac Unity. The numbers on for sure. Okay Yeah I think you only on podium and I did not. I know that Parker go look it up on the phone. Recent on the podium. Okay here we go and look I send you this funny. Oh I sent you that Steven Seagal video by the way You Gotta. Watch that later. I said have you seen it now? I really enjoy a goal and then go. They're definitely not taken sunglasses men. I got my statman over here. Parker is GonNa look who won Formula Drift. June two thousand ten podium for Formula Drift. So what do you got any company? What do you need Dylan? I Dunno endorsed only meal on in front of that look out. There's some crazy Mexican Dude Kim Marshall. How many how many nerds and black hats can you fit in one bathroom right now? You Got Kinen and dillon us. Hey Down Dylan bathrooms. So we got room down onto Dylan. How doing yeah doing alright. Got The fixed flat fix the flair me going to pick your flight. I the VEGEMITE flat out. We do all of this week Yeah seriously like all right I I can't see. Can you see Barker's looking it up so so the the hall and Oates Concert Post Formula Drift New Jersey? All of us go from New Jersey. Is that up or down to. I know I know one no way. No way who wanted did no. It says von won the championship that year in two thousand and ten with two victories along on race way Conrad One. I'm calling it. Wow okay hold on Burger. Help me out here. My staff my staticial guys is a little slow over here. Parker's I told Him Jersey two thousand and ten. That's what I said all right so after form of New Jersey. We all again upper down. Which WAY IS MARYLAND FROM JERSEY? I'm terrible on the east coast so we went south. It's raining on her way. There we go. Everybody goes to every RONDOS DEVAN king. Junior's house and we got celebrities like junming got June main. There we got we got. We Got Andy Saf. Any SAP is in the building. We got Brian Eggert. We have Brian Wilkerson but then mad. Mike Tony Turk Vaughn. You me why. What's that done there and then Ryan Dunn and His Lady Angie There so recipes Ryan John? Shout at them out. But I'm in my in my living room. So there you go you dumped it out down your gullet but yeah Ryan down there. There were thirty of US man in like the whole crew. Mike Gillyard cousy. Was there people that were talking about that? People listening. Don't know but dude. It was poetic. Because we ron boot involves house. We all took different cars. I remember pornography was playing in one suburban at one point when? We're driving down there with Stephanie. When we get there we rendezvous Ryan Dunn and his chick and win at this at this venue. Peer six in the in the in the Maryland. Harbor you come from the back of the stage and do you recall this or am I just making this up where we come from the behind the stage we look over and I swear. I'm joking winked at me but then like but you know like first guitar. Chord Hits Win. Walking renowned timing and like so many people can relate to this like the just the the concert experience. And sometimes you're like all right like you know you make my dreams come true. I remember that coming. I mean that Manila's breaking your workers are gone. It was like it was like getting out of line low where we knew nothing happening and yeah we like get through that gate and you're right it's just like like it was starting like. Oh my God all hold up to the grass and Guy That big sponsored parties. Oh yeah and we had like our own bar. I mean we're we're Kinda gloating here but it. It's four rightful reason because it was absolute parker. Looked it up. And he's he's he's seen that Frederick Osborn one former New Jersey winter two thousand ten Frederick Oslo now twenty four hours. I when I wasn't even around in twenty ten parker you're fired the final twenty four and then I hit him he won. That was well. Parker you're fired. Go back in the pool we have. Let's ask God does not check out so I'm GonNa do facts on the fact guy. He's he's fired from my family's thirteen years old and he didn't even have a job. Are you gonNA look it up right now? I feel like you're looking at up once you go grab that other beer. Grab that other bureau. Quick grab the Fancy Board here. Yeah exactly so look look it up. I'M GONNA I'm GonNa talk about you I don't know. Can you hear me if I keep talking but Chris Forsberg in our in our relationship goes back quite a bit? And I'll catch up on this but How Forsberg and I met was actually via Tony. Angelo and Tony Angelo. Who's now again a hot rod garage doing a lot of stuff with motor trend? I read an article about Tony and Chris Forsberg and Matt Petty while they were attempting to compete in d. One and they drove from Pennsylvania New Jersey respective east coast locations all the way to Irwindale California while I was working at Racer magazine. I read an article in wired about drifting. And I'd already been in the tuner world for quite some time and reading story about these east coast. Kids that drove cross country and they they kind of mashed up graphically some initial D graphics in with these kids that are wearing You know just like rock and roll t shirts. I'm trying to think of a riverboat. Gamblers or something that that petty was wearing a shirt. Do you remember what shirt was? Was it riverboat? Gambler sure that somebody was wearing. I mean I used to ever Rogaine. Which ripples kind of cried favorite serpent shirt you get really drunk and rowdy. Get like really Feisty Randy feistiest Nellie I know I mean because the only reason why is because you you can deal. They couldn't take it. No POCONO grabby you. You'd be like like freak out condition but he can't handle it now like someone into a seven eleven grammy me like real hard and like read much. Leave off or shirt you were pretty mad. I don't know if you heard me telling the story about how we met is is through Tony Angelo. Because I read the article wired about you petty Tony and Basically Tony. I reach out to Tony via aim via somebody else. That knew him. I was wearing resear- magazine. I like the sport. Drifting didn't really know much about it reading the story where it's intermeshed initial D fast forward to me inviting Tony Angelo. To come live with my recently married wife and I in San Diego Pro Bono. For like nine months he didn't pay a single cent he lived with us. And you told me about East Coast Drifta. And this is actually. This might be a good story to tell right now is Tony. Tony was living in my house to clean up. Make your bed. We're all good and I wasn't making a ton of money. I don't know what just inspired me to do this. But if it wasn't for me reached out to Tony and finding the drifting world and what's going on because I'd been in the tuner culture for so long but understanding drifting and also I'd never been to the East Coast really like I'm trying to think I don't even think New York prior to that but T. bones making a cameo here is just saying what's up just getting out of the pool So Tony Tony lives with us in like a month or so into it. He kinda tells me he's like yeah. I got this friend Chris Forsberg and he's living up in Orange County. And because you got put on by signal auto and do you remember kind of us in our first encounter. I think I know I know A bunch of times. But I couldn't tell you like our I. I wonder that's what you mean. I don't think I couldn't put it out but I think it was either going to the signal autoshop or going to your apartment where you live with that. Do the had the white Z. That eventually crashed or broke his front bumper with. He was a little have aggressively into another car doing that. We shouldn't have been doing and it wasn't making power to do the turn like you know slid out. What was that Disney hired turn? What was that name again? I can't remember June Parker. Says what's up to braiding hair because it's so long during quarantine times are you. Have you shaved your head yet or anything man? She's going on out. Oh man weren't keeping on. Yeah so so so getting getting like getting to getting to know you so Tony. Tony tells me about you. We go up to Orange County a signal auto and on the On not outs but yeah. We weren't really trying too much that we kind of bringing back again because we both we went. Our separate ways only moved to California island in Long Beach and he was like nor count for a minute and then went to your place and it was like okay. We're still trying to get the same goal. Like smooth is all out but yeah so I remember when we first met him. I remember going to your place. Then we went to Show and you. You put the Gumbo stick. I remember watching you. Put It on sticker on the hood of your way. Wrx and Maximillian. Was there your car parked in a corner now? The person hung out. I remember that Godoy car show meet up thing But yeah so we did and hung out and then you came back to my apartment because I think it was that that show was that day and then like my apartment that night. Yep and Remember Tony. Pool the Ebrahim on your car. I'll do corner in your it wasn't it wasn't just a corner we were. We were leaving like Irvine Spectrum and I'm driving and coming around like a big. Like you know cloverleaf. Turn in California and Tony Yanks pulls the handbrake and totally come around. These is dying laughing. I'm like what like what are you doing. You dumb ass could frigging died. Amazing Times with Eto Alex pfeiffer Tommy Angelo Lindsey Ross. Do you remember the time? When Alex Pfeiffer know who fell asleep and somebody put their testicles on somebody else's face was that pass down and head bald on that guys say I wanNA say it was that. Yeah yes it was. That was a that was a classic time. So in Miami around the rotary secret days or living in the shop where scooter races and then like there's one time Oh I'll close conrad versus pollock and then also look starts regular win. Twenty Eleven Ever The final that wall twenty eleven talk back to my original gut. Feeling Reese in Bonn in them. That's kind of a good calculated kind of estimation of given the given the names in the The Times. Yeah but yeah. So we What was I gonNA say Singing Orlando Secret. And we're just like you know super-party blockhouse clubhouse saying aside and we're doing three spree. Scooter races around the building and My Buddy I worked on said the best time. Really come between six and all that and My buddy comes around the corner like light skinned up and the things a little scratched out walking with ended. Like Oh man you know like Mandalay your bike down right and like it wasn't destroyed and of course it's like this is kind of inevitable. You're leading like six guys rage. Scoot around building. Someone's GonNa wipe out like we're just pick on some rats and comes limited APP and by looking at it like we own had like maybe a little look like throw the voting knock like wow was not as bad as it is now and then I put in his car and left and I'm pretty sure that's when we kind of stopped hanging out with them. That would be battle version. Alex Alex Pfeiffer broke his scooter and he got really pissed. And now hang out much after that you and speaking of Tony Angelo. He's just kind of integral part of of our relationship by the way. What are you drinking right now? What's what's your fancy boy beer. So is that basically my there. May A friend of brand came by Nebraska's he found this. So you're saying there's no better public. Have you ever heard of that? Yep Bear drift racer and it's a two forty down there. Yeah it has yeah has has drifting on their contract. Brinson dude and has like for those that can't see it looks kind of animation like speed. Racer Rising Sun Z. Going sideways with racing stripe number five and eight percent did yeah. Bear won't speed lines on it going the wrong direction totally well bear bear. Public always had had racer five racer. Five is always been a staple of the bear republic brewery because they always have had five but the drift racer going sideways. Because it's a double. That's why I think it's because it's a little more sideways. Yeah interesting mix and I know brought that I was like Oh know under I could show you there you go so I'm GonNa go ahead and Change Ramona I'm going to reach out to them and And See if can get get that sponsored You know I just want people to kind of listen into our dumb conversations that we have and I'm trying to think 'cause would just start rambling about things but I don't know if we can really kind of elaborate into what what are normal dumb conversations really break down to what's what's your what's what's your favorite incident. What yeah what's your favorite instagram account? Either should steve or Why people they're pretty good. How about I guess for me because I'm a dad Is Middle Fancy like Nansen ran down? I mean everyone but it's it's it's a continuous theme. The guys come in. Are they coming in. Take some more toys from me right now. I keep walking by the window. So my name something. They've they keep coming in here. I'm just trying to mind dump. Just take my reason being around Dylan Hughes. Do you feel. Do you feel like you're kind of living vicariously living vicariously through you as like a good simpatico of of each other bring great old time dude. You guys like seem like you're having so much fun right now. I feel like you're I don't know it seems like you're a young youthful self exactly Now like you know like I said. I can't say like happy about the quarantine. That's not what I mean by this at all right. Let me say it's very poor Chan. We WANNA RAISE SAYING. We want everything to the open. We want people to not have hardship but Just the change in the pace of what has been going on around here has been like like what you what we have. Recently it's been like Some of the best like weeks I've ever had because it's like we're like we're like like working at a average pace. We're getting stuff done. We're not stressed out or like just having an incredible amount of fun and good times while still working while still being productive and like this is like everything I've ever wanted and this whole sport this whole chase of running a shop running a business and trying to be a pro driver like it's baby like peeking out right now and not that. I think we'll go away once we hit the track again. I think I like pause. Allowed him to like catch up buying like really feel one step behind. You know it's like Oh we got we got. We got and like difficult like his at mark and be able to You know It's always one step ahead. Yeah Yeah because especially as you look at other people and look at other. It's like it's so easy to like compared to other teams other drivers. And when you're looking at like you thirty forty other guys and you're saying like you're picking out like oh. That guy's doing best in that guys doing doing this the best. So you just compare jump like tend to people and possible right. Yes yeah so. My James Does like a talent competition events and love and killed it and then got volunteers doing like a lot of you. Know Variety events running the business. And then you got other people that are designing parts and building partially other guys are focused strictly emerging. And you know I think that strictly only video content and I should do it. All is super right. Yeah we're like kind of hitting that point right now that that I mean that's my it's it's like it's like it was it was buffering and it's finally like it's kind of like before before this podcast like all right. We're skype and we're calling okay. You're a little glitch. Now I can hear you but it's just not focused and now it's like you with the with the CO vid unfortunately case the silver lining for you is that. It's just gaining some clarity. Oh My Gosh. This is just like my. This is dude. Mind bullets right now right. This is just metaphorically speaking. Exactly what happened? You finally getting some clarity and you could see just long distance you can see the scope hold on. I'm going to ask Parker Parker. Go in the fridge. There is a the silver one to swing top. Go and fill me up I would like the cerebral brewing Denver. Colorado I have the the Sour Tiki Ale which is banned by the way. It is the best leave me. We will go there. You got your kids born bears. No what priorities. That's why have kids bartenders. Built in Goodwood Festival of speed. That aval that rivals good trip I. I knew you were going to say that because you're like a video because that's one of my favorite stories about time. Allow a lion stories right. Yeah it's like can't can you guys play the keynesianism so br break it down. Because again I don't I don't WanNa be the one to talk so much here but Forsberg what year. That was your first goodwood festival speed correct. Who's your I? I'm running and we go by saying at the time. Moore Marsha incredible and there's String Orchestra they're right like five or six so pretty small but very very talented. And they're playing amazing music. And you like stumble out there and really driving for the day don announcing for the day or just like we weren't belligerent. But wish someone up there with a couple of days God hilarious but but let me let me back up real quick because when we passed it earlier in front of the Goodwood House. We did hear them. Play the game of Thrones Anthem Dent today and we are the were hot and heavy into into game of thrones. So it's going in and we're done with the day we go get a little. Pim's we get some little a couple of drinks in us and then when we come out and it wasn't just strings because they did have clarinets. Because you need those are. They did have like an oboe right. I mean so they have. It's not just string so when we walked out both you and I feel a little little little brave couple couple tattooed. Yankees in a British land smiled and gave him a vegemite sandwich. Joking and we go over to the plan of game of thrones again right. Yes it was like that you later and we wanted to film it right. They're gonNA play. The thing warmed up. They're playing like you know and it was your idea. I know the Star Wars Dung and I'm like wait. Why would they have that or no? That can you like like. Can you play the continues on one? Like violinist woman and she's like yeah yes I just like laughing at us right but with one and two and three took the canteen song and they all like my turn their pages over but then that'd be team. Yes Yeah Okay and and that that and that event as a whole is such a good going off. It's those moments that I think that you and I truly enjoys the juxtaposition of life of like here. We are across the you know. I mean just across the pond not across the globe but we have been aggressive globe to Dubai to the Middle East to New Zealand but goodwood and this is what three years ago two years ago. Yeah so yeah so seventeen. I'm terrible at this at all blue. Together Yeah so we we go experience. This was that before or after you crashed into the Hay bales clearly before that was clear quite clearly. Nine oh I don't know actually no no. I think it was Sunday. Wasn't it was you who may drive that? First Session Sunday. Which is why we're having our early start. That's right that makes more sense. 'cause WE DRIVE SUPER LATE. Sunday or Saturday and we go straight into show way. Aso's Sunday As we did two sessions one like first thing in the morning and then went off and like a broken arm. you'll back and basically like Huckabee car back together Somebody panels and we went right back out because we're like thirty. Am and then like ten am and then we're done for the day they do the He'll climb so it was like all right like hey mail them fix the car and then you know like we do the run Fix The car and do the second Brian. We didn't miss anything all right like I didn't bring drink day to finish it up. And then we just started getting hot and heavy with the the orchestra and that's like I was saying. That's the juxtaposition that I think you. And I both enjoy and especially drifters in general the kind of expectation or what people have the preconceived idea of who we are and you you actually got the invite for. Lord marches exclusive dinner. And here we are sitting next to Lamar winner. I couldn't I can't even think the names right now. But they're legendary racers and and we're sitting down what's that Shara shared with with hill dare kill and then we know we hung out with Tom Christianson. We hung out eraser BMW. I can't remember their names are escaping me right now but legendary dudes. We're the only had short sleeved shirts on because we I didn't know we're going to this thing. And you had no expectation but the juxtaposition of it all is that we are completely warranted to be there. We're allowed. We're allowed to be there because of because of not who? We are. Not by a pompous sort of attitude but because of the caliber of diversity that the world is now right. I mean it's a it's a fairly generalized statement but I thoroughly enjoy not making people uncomfortable but challenging them to the point where it's like. Who is this guy? What is he doing here? I we're rightfully allowed to be there. Because if you're talented driving in your prowess and who you are how you stand what you've done what you've accomplished what you're bringing to the show. That is good with vessel speed and you could sit next to somebody who has competed or one or or or done this or you know the. Michelin this person. That person you know getting getting really kind of You know insightful on this concept but that that kind of that kind of a bit say it again. I said it's pretty wild dinner to attend like you said like the the cover of people that are at that dinner for us to be bunch of drifts kids you know from nowheres. Pa Hanging out with these like Jerry racers and you know Lamont winters and F one champion and Blah Blah Blah and. We're just like Yeah we're like one of the twenty five I can To go on the highlight show at Goodwood. Yeah Yeah are you are you did you get an invite for twenty twenty. I know obviously being pushed do pushing everything. Yeah I did twenty twenty one shaped one best counter your overhead. Often we're lined up to do I A twin turbo car upgraded. I put a change in that car. So now it's like ready to try and do The rebel drifters event and Goodwood. And then come back here at the end of the year so think we're GONNA do a European tour and then we had 'em doing the grid life tour and then we had a guard on shore and not even conflicted. It was an incredible lineup. Sorry you ended their abruptly. I'm just thinking about yeah but again. We'll we'll see we'll see how it all pans out I I'm not gonNA say that a I'm upset and change in the schedule and everything else 'cause like I said so. Many other things have happened Because of the change of pace because we have basically had the same in and out schedule like How do I? It's very repetitive. Every very repetitive right. And so this has been a shake up that I've really needed And not just be like okay. Sima okay off season okay rebuild the car okay like go to FDA okay for good lines. You know the same thing and I love and continue to do it right like we're still competitive or winning events we're still like in championship punts and we still have an amazing have a good life and we still love rides and all the things are great but there's Complete change has like changed my perspective on some things and married I would say my life a lot better Yeah just just having that clarity and that kind of sense too that that moment to breathe. Yeah 'cause you're just you're in the hamster wheel every day. Yeah this isn't actually once you're out you're like oh another thing like you know just kind of like just opened up the Opened up the path or and I'd say the pass it put the monotony. Yeah you don't you yes you can do your Lawn Avenue. Open more avenues of Ways to grow the business ways to Potentially a have a you know a living and also More happiness and more fun as they said just doing the same time over and over you know old because waste time. We all the time in between. It's just like your spokes. Earning both in the next thing. Now it's like pause and this break go like wow. We should work on this whole week. And whatever towards this and now like so. I really enjoyed it. Hey put it that way by. It's been beneficial for me because it can be beneficial for anyone. You gotta just find out how it works for you and what a complete change of everyone's daily Monotony Can do for them silverline. Yeah there's perspective. It gives you perspective as far as assessing what your program looks like. What's going down? It's kind of like sitting in the waiting room doctor's office. Some people are awaiting death. Some people are waiting birth. Some people are waiting to find out. They're pregnant when people are finding out that they have cancer. They're going to die. Some people are going to get great news that they don't have cancer cured. So it's about it's in that waiting room in that law that sometimes you get the best sense of clarity and actual realization of saying like all right. Suck IT UP. Chris. Suck it up jared. You'RE GONNA be okay or you're going to get some bad news and you're going to deal with it and you're going to deal with it accordingly or you're waiting room and like you might get dealt some bad news. What are you GonNa do with that? Are you GonNa go like you say like you know not the you know? Say this is no big deal but you know like say someone is diagnosed with terminal illness. Illnesses that okay. You got you got a year. What are you GonNa do with it right? Wallow in it you're gonNA live life to the fullest and so like you know. Been trying to like find buying those avenues and live a better life. We're kinda going reverse here because I started things off with where you are in the current and then you know normal podcast like tell me about your childhood telling me. Show me on the dull where he touched you. Whatever I'm joking ask but podcast get into like the core being of who people are and all that and and I feel like I'd rather not do that with you but at the same time I feel like people listening to this. Want to listen to to people that that love each other and all have shared many experiences together but I I love the maybe the question. There's a question here as well as education of what Chris Forsberg and you've put it out there you started to drift because you took the lawnmower out and you threw that into gear and he started just doing wheelies and drifting around on a lawnmower. What would you be doing? What would you be doing if you weren't drifting I? It's hard to say I I liked working on cars. I started working on cars before it started drifting and then I went to the restaurant And that's made all my money like by car. Part Right. Apartments thinks that like if I didn't have his goal like becoming a driver I I probably wouldn't. It was like taking easy straight night like becoming a bartender and just like you at a Party. Guy Fun and I was like. I was the only reason why I didn't become a bartender at fun because I left right mind turned twenty one killing at that restaurant like I went for my. You know busboy. Expediter to like headed the kitchen. So like Bar Back and was like you know had all the the best barbeques shifts and the only reason why. I didn't become the bartender there. Because it was twenty one when I moved and I quit moved to California and became a bartender like making you a couple of grand a month like like that like you know that they make a lot of money probably just continue living that life of like. Oh Martha on the weekends. I work on my car and maybe doing some project and like I don't really seem that is why would have been if I didn't have a higher goal. Yeah because your parents gave you an ultimatum. They said hey go to college or will buy your Z. Z. Eventually I don't think it was. It wasn't that cut and dry. Yeah I know that but like I mean well truth be told it was You know I was going to community college. Now here's the thing you know like we understand. You want your goal this idea this drain. We'll help you with that And then you know we'll see how it goes and so I told my RX7. I gave them the eighth grade. I got from it. We put that into a down payment for the cosign for the and they helped me with the payment on it like the first year so I could get out to California and drive and so I did that and then they had like no money the time so they helped me with the payments like the first year and then students like. I got out there like six months later while two months later they announced the Sima Right. 'cause I got the cow point October. Oh three drift show and whatever They announced all. That's going good and so then I turned into a sponsors. This is that right until like okay. There's like you know parts whenever coming in and then as soon as That kind of started happening then like I took over payments and I was paying that the three hundred forty bucks a month or whatever it was Until two thousand eight. Wow Nice car had been burning whenever four times over. You're making payments on a Nissan financing. Yeah that is that's that was was trip and And and the thing that they did they helped me to get the truck dodge because reliable and whatever and so I had to dodge. I drove out to California and then it was Within a year within the first year of me having it it was like oh well like you have people that transport your car for you so like you know. You don't need a truck and so like I spent the truck that couldn't make payments on it right and so it became a farm truck Ripping around back in PA and then in two thousand seven three years later. After I lost the outcome ride I was like hey like so if I like taking over payments on that truck and I use it. 'cause I needed biking truck smell but I got the truck back. Seven made a duly. 'cause I just got Are from foul again and needed Driving my stuff around. I picked up a forty trailer. Now is the start of the far and that whole nonsense and running my own teams. I've been doing it for fourteen years. Now somebody get stories and this is just the tip of the iceberg. And if you want to hear more stories just hang out with us in the form of Paddock. After an event you'll hear more more skin to win more beers more good times. I know oh I know I say look for another time. Yeah we should and normally like an hour about an hour about an hour admittedly more some more energy history and other. Yeah and admit. How are you doing now? This is like public public. Therapy is basically yeah Turk was the first episode and his was the shortest. It was like thirty five minutes because I was just kind of like feeling it out. Seeing what's going on and I could go longer with Turkey obviously and we have some great history but United eight hours. Nobody wants to listen to that. If we if we get more drinks and Essex it could get better only if we had Chris Reese and the Pike Bar and the and the best jukebox in southern California. Thank you so much boy. I love you and Brown. Yeah man so for more information on Chris Forsberg Goto at Chris Forsberg sixty four out Chris Forsberg dot org dot edu slash l slash Gov dot Gov but backslash dot com backlash Forsberg forest. Last Forsberg. Chris Forsberg Chris. Forsberg hits the win. Thank you so much man. I really truly appreciate it. Thank you so much and I will be talking to you real soon my friend.

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Hour 1: KD's Summer Plans

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Hour 1: KD's Summer Plans

"Who saw this comment three straight to the raptors Kawai and the rappers had the box on the brink of elimination after a huge win in game five last night. Welcome into I take will Cain sitting in for Molly camera max, I got Stephen what's up fella's going on? You've got your global entry yet. Stephen better not max. Gee, I appreciate you rub. You rub it in the buck mind. Got some work to do to save you from some long customs lines because quite is thirty five points, nine seven rebounds, a Trump, the Greek freak, twenty four six and six and here the two superstars after the game among amount of freighted a moment. Enjoy and notice who's what I work out for a summer just trying to win. Either me scoring points are getting Monte maze. Wide open. Look, the just they're trying to win it just not really matter. Bummy scorn just above being aggressive and don't shy away from anything. Obviously. You know, I'm pissed. We now. We've best they not gonna go go. Give me we got. We not go go there. And even the, you know, the celebrates on the, the come out in hilas in the mouth been became fold. You know, we're gonna come back to Milwaukee being pissed like you cannot full. You gotta go out there and give everything you got if you lose we lose. Okay, cool. But we not going forward as a team. And that's what we do. So Toronto can close out these finals tomorrow night at home. Stephen A is quite proving. He's the best player in the world right now. No, he's proven these the best player in the series. He's proven. He's a superstar, but that, you know him performing against them a walk. He does it mean to me that he's better than Kevin Durant. That's just that's just how I feel about it. Of course, no doubt has been sensational. But let's also look at the Milwaukee Bucks and wonder what the hell has happened to them. They were number one enough, that's in defensive efficiency this season. They've been a shell of themselves when it comes to the last three games of this series ever since Nick nurse has made the transition of putting Kawhi Leonard on the Greek freak, Janas center, Tacoma bowl, and then topping off by suffocating the lane and basically turning him into pretty much a perimeter player for the most part of lessons. Mugged in the paint. The reality is, it's completely stymied. Milwaukee's off. And it's compromised them. Defensively. Janas gets into the lane, often the nineties getting Foued. He's missing. Some of these free throws. He's not converting in the lane the way he's accustomed to doing. So he's also your primary playmaker. Even though he's a good player. Makings not a great one yet. And so you look at it from that perspective guys that were getting open shots during the regular season. Merritt Titian brook, Lopez, and you'll sober and all of these guys. That's not happening right now. You're getting the Toronto Raptors to get out on the wing and contesting shots. And as a result, what we're learning is there are really no playmakers. Malcolm brogden could create shot Bledsoe. Can't hit a perimeter shot when it counts. Other guys can't hit contested shots for the most part, and Janda's can't get them free shots because even though the attention he still attracts. It's a little bit different now because co why is able to neutralize him on his dribble penetration. And as a result, he can't get into the teeth of defenses the way he was. Doing all regular season law. And because of that it's really really compromised them and it's made them. Second guess themselves. It's made them a bit tight and tentative ofensive offense. And as a result, you can see their frustrations on the defensive side of the ball because they look a little different, and I think that's what's happened. Look at your eyelids. You can see this man is not getting enough sleep. That's why you're missing the big story here. Stephen a Smith standing on these customs lines getting in and out of the absolute center. Senator day, you're absolutely right. Are not getting enough sleep. That's right. Confess who are not thinking straight on this issue. Let me explain this real easy. Here's the big picture co why Leonard is proving right now that the rankings of the constellation of stars in the basketball universe is rearranging. Why one LeBron to LeBron James is big. He put down the Bataan because he didn't make the postseason who wanted to pick it up. Now I always contended when Kawai was last healthy he was the second best player in the world. In fact, because his offense had risen to almost K D levels, but as defense was better than everyone in the world. And he was up twenty three points on the Hampton five squad. Right. That couldn't be beaten the seventy three win team. They added the rent who stormed through everyone. And like it's wasn't the rockets last year is two years ago when no one could touch the warriors they couldn't with them, right? Except the Spurs were up twenty three at the half and then got hurt and then they got swept Kawai why. Leonard at that moment. I thought that's second best player in the world till the Bronx, he's gonna pass LeBron one day because by the way, katie's over thirty who is twenty-seven Kawais in his prime and this year, he got healthy. And he had a near MVP sees not quite, and then the playoffs started, and look where they were when K D went down a more efficiently field goal percentage, three point percentage, Hawaii, Leonard ofensive rating, very similar K D with a slight edge in offensive rating, but capable is the superior defensive player. And you have to consider the context it, which these two guys accumulated those numbers, K D is left alone. One guy on Katy, which is a joke because K D could score on two guys. But one guy 'cause you can't leave Steph curry or Klay Thompson, as opposed to Kawai the entire defense is focused on Kawai and K D everyone always playing best in the playoffs. No. In fact, he was playing second best to Hawaii. Now, what's happened since then K D got hurt hasn't played choir? Also got hurt not like. K D. I don't think it's an achilles. And I still think that's what Katie is suffering with some kind of the Killy something no foot Kawais clearly hurt. You can watch the way he moves and he's matched up on the Greek freak, I thought Jaanus was about approve. He's the best player in the world if the size mismatch against Kawai, but no. It's quite giving it to them. It's Jaanus not quite in his prime yet against Kawai in his full glory. Right now in his prime not just physically but even the mental game who why was never a great passer, right? He was last night, even his hooking up. His teammates is changing. He's not just like a two guard is going to score the ball. He's actually creating quality shots for teammates. Stephen doing it all hurt. Have you seen the defensive numbers choir on Janas Janas per one hundred possessions is half as affected when is on them? Then when the second best defender on Janas is on in the NBA who's Blake Griffin. He's. Twice the -ffective is the number two guy. Nothing average not in the league. Then the number two guy, the -fensive fence on your honest, he now has a three games to two advantage on, on a superior team. Just won a road game giving you what was it? Thirty six nine nine seven and two steals. Kawhi Leonard is proving right now. James harden, you want it? No, you don't want it freak you want, it may not be ready who wants LeBron's, not there to show that it's him. K D was he was after it? But actually was low or now, Katy can't play why Leonard is proving right now are right. Enough's enough. Yes, I'm sleepy. Yes, I'm tired, all of that is true, but I'm still awake enough to recall that just forty eight hours ago. You were saying the best player in the world conversation was being decided in this series between Hawaii and the Greek freak. Now, you don't even have the Greek freak in the top to just forty eight hours later. That's number one. Number two, your big about bringing up years past like when we talk about Golden State. You talk about four years ago or whatever. Well, guess what? Three years ago. Kawara Atlanta was defensive player of the year. It was twenty sixteen. The Spurs was sixty seven and fifteen they will forty and one at home and who did he lose to in the playoffs? K D. Number three. When we sit there and we look at Kawhi Leonard, and what he brings to the table. Nobody's taking away the greatness that we see from him. He's absolutely phenomenal. I'm not just that's not a debate. I'm I'm simply pointing out the fact that this series against this mocking books team doesn't indicate to me that that's proved he's the best player in the world. Players go up against go and say, I'm saying if this was if we were having this discussion and he was doing these kind of things against the Golden State Warriors in the NBA finals or something like that. I would I would consider it more of a plausible argument as much as I respect the Milwaukee Bucks. I'm telling you, you could see not just their limitations. But the fact that there are due to a been here before they are due to have not, and Zoe gets tight. They got tight that it's true and Janas did work creating. Hi, good quality shots for his teammates, and beating them after losing game one in Milwaukee. Right. Like Janas, it's not the Jaanus is that series isn't over Yana still has time to prove that he's better than Kawhi. Let's see him do it. But right now it is cool. Why Leonard the idea that, that the Benza guys time was well there two more games so you made. So in other words, I'm just saying two days ago you were saying this is going to turn the best player in the world now you're saying he's not, but two games from now. He you could change your mind again. I don't understand. What's so hard about this these playoffs? This is the crucible like Steven A if to dudes fight, if there's a big box that you're a big fight fan. If there's a big fight. Yes, you're determining the thinking. No, no, no, no stop right there there. I've seen you match calling boxing matches where a guy just got clipped, but he was clearly the inferior fighter, for example, Hearns when he got knocked out by ran bought me. Are you going to sit there and tell me that Iran? Barkley was a bit of boxing and hurts. Hell no. But hers got knocked out by guy lipped now. He was the finals MVP because of the defense, he played on LeBron. He just dismantle the Sixers. He's doing it right now to the bucks when you're style beats everyone who are the best. You will. We've got me because here's the deal. I was sleepy until he's spewed that nonsensical drivel that he just did your water haffey. Thank you, max. You digit job. Say better than a couple of better than a couple of tea baby weight down there. Let's go in on party people. Molly care hair, listening to the first take podcast. If you don't know your numbers, you don't know your business. They have one system for counting another for sales, another for inventory, and so on. And it's a big inefficient mess taking too much time, and too many resources and that hurts the bottom line. Introducing net suite by oracle the business management software that handles every aspect of your business and easy to use cloud platform, giving you the visibility and control you need to grow with the nets. 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It's the dust bunnies, only natural predator on the long dust on his run along. Sports on right now in the Bill Kareem with you, while the raptors and bucks are slugging it out in the Eastern Conference finals. You got the Golden State Warriors, just sitting and chilling rest and recovery is a priority right now for a team. That's missing a couple of key pieces. Kevin Durant, and boogie cousins probably won't be ready for the start of the finals. But that's not exactly breaking news for the warriors. Nothing new to me. We've known all along. How he responds. And so. There's never heard there's never been a point during this process where we've been able to say he's going to play on such and such date, and still so just keep going people before Marcus, I good. He went through the whole practice and. His he doesn't have any more pain, strengthen his quad is good. Now it's about conditioning hitting shots up playing five on five basketball. An expectation that'd be available. Up in there. As for the rest of the team curse says the war is will practice today and tomorrow. He says their focus will be unveiled Gabe until they find out who they're playing. Let's get you back. Okay. These unlikely to play at the start of the NBA finals when they begin next Thursday in either Toronto or Milwaukee, but Dredd has a big summer ahead of him as maybe I guess, between he and co why the number one prize, and the free agent market are manned, Jalen rose sitting here at the table. Thanks for having me that national start with you, though. Katie's priority. In the short term here, should it be playing in the NBA finals or should it be free agency. Of course, it should be free agency, and I know what this sounds like. And I know a lot of players even be like, no, no. It's the finals, and this, and that because competitive athletes can be rational at times in order to be great athletes. You know, it's the reason reason their salary caps, by the way in sports is because owners can get rationally competitive and cost themselves money. This is a competitive world, the world of sports entertainment, but that's also what it is. It's also entertainment the competition. The point of it is to be entertaining. The point of finding out about the winner and the loser is to make money. To make a business by entertaining, the masses. Right. And so, really when you think about what the finals are, it's a TV show. I mean, the NBA is largely, it's alive show. You can go be part of the studio audience if you pay. But for most people, it's a TV show like millions of people versus the thousands in the arena. It's a TV show and the finals are just a bigger TV show for which you get paid less a TV show. His already stored in multiple times. So you mean to tell me that someone in their right mind would risk up to two hundred million dollars to be on a TV show for which he gets paid less than the normal show is odd. And he's also done that show in the past. I mean, I know I'm reducing it to maybe a more absurd conclusion than is realistic or practical. But really, that's what it is. When I talk guys to athletes, and Jalen sure you have your own thoughts on this. What kind of career percentage in terms of your earnings would you have given up if they'd never wanted title? For example, for championship. I usually hear about five percent which to really that's all it's, it's a lot. It's a lot when you're talking about hundreds of millions of dollars. I think Katie would be nuts to jeopardize his health of his future. If not the situation, I'm not gonna lie. There are sometimes I've wondered whether or not you ever even play ball in the park, whether you've done anything Ledley, competitively. See, I don't understand that kind of thing that is the most asinine thing I've ever heard in my life. I barely understand and comprehend your rationale. I understand anybody who would disagree with my overall point because to me, it would be about the finals rather than free agency. But how you came to that conclusion is just something again. I'm waking up. I just don't even have the time to get into it. Here's what I'm going to say to you. Kevin durant. It doesn't matter. What happens to Kevin Durant? If you told you told twenty nine teams in the NBA. Or at least twenty eight Kevin Durant is not available for the entire twenty nineteen twenty twenty season. They would still give him the match. You went on max will on this show, just days ago, acknowledging that, so if we knowledge that, and we'll Kate if I recall correctly, you are part of that as well. K D is going to get whatever he's going to get no matter what I don't give a damn if he's injured. It can't play or if he recovers in time. It doesn't matter. So what it comes down to is this, what are you play for, because guess what I often use this analogy? Jalen, I got direct deposit for a reason, you know, one of the biggest reasons I have direct deposit because I don't think about the money once I know is there. And I know it's coming. I'm good. It's everything else that I'm doing what I do for. And I believe that athletes are that way. Sure, when you get to them. Negotiating table, and you're gonna go she hitting a contract. Absolutely. You're going to position yourself to get as much as you possibly can the best deal imaginable. But once the ink is put down on paint, watch what you sign on the dotted line. Now, your competitive juices, flowing and your about earning invalidating what you could track truly bog in four. And I think that's what pre premium all star, superstar athletes are made of. Good. So let's calculate the injury. It's a calf muscle is not attendant is not a ligament, is something that's definitely going to. He'll usually in time enough for him to participate in the NBA finals if he's able to go max that should be the goal and I'm gonna give you different reasons why if he does not play he now here's the chatter that has had him on Instagram the last couple of weeks. Remember when Katie was healthy, and he was averaging thirty five and people like Steven and myself or coming on television saying he's the best player in the world. He's the guy, we will build around then all of a sudden he got injured. And once he got injured, people started to say are Golden State words better offensively without Katie. Can they win? It wasn't Jalen on. Correct added do that. Absolutely not. And people start asking those questions. And you know what? He heard him. And he heard him so much. He got out his Twitter fingers. He got on g he started replying to people. And therefore, he has to come back during the finals max because this is his chance to win three straight finals MVP's because if he blows up in that series he can still do it, and he can't afford for the team to win it all without him because it clearly wouldn't bother him the chatter that's going around for player that we all four seat is going to leave what we consider the best dynasty going in the league and yet, we anticipate, he's going to leave because he's not necessarily satisfied, even though they won championships there, can we just let's just take a quick breather because Matt, somehow you have managed to offend not just everybody at this table of which I will include myself, but I would imagine everybody watching you and everybody going on the money. Max not you. You've reduced this competitive environment into mash, you reduced it into a TV show. And you did it as here into some darkness that we can't see man. This is why they play in Steven A. And now general point out, it won't cost. K D A dine, not why they play. They play for the money. They're not just playing in the park for nothing. They're playing for hundreds of millions of dollars and it's naive to think that that's just play for the love of the game. Not that they don't love the game. Not that they're not competitive, but the money, that's professional profession. Look, I'll agree with Stephen about the money. I think you win that point Stephen because I do agree with that, when you think about it. K D is worth so much more than the max contract that people would pay for him to sit down for a year because if you if you pro rate the money he's just getting paid instead of forty million a year, sixty million year. Whatever and anyone would do that. Because his, his salary's kept artificially low, even with a max deal. So I agree with that. Ultimately, it's not really about the money. Let's say it's about in this case. Let's say it's just about the competition. Is it more important for, for K D to chase a third ring here and a third finals MVP which people like me will discount sorry? You've never double covered a trapdoor anything like that. 'cause you can't leave Steph or Klay, what he did in the finals LeBron every finals is better than K. Dixie has to do so much more k D's. It's not that he's not incredible. He is. But he's incredible. And not cover the way other guys, are like Hawaii is in this usually LeBron is usually now think about this for a second. He skips this, or he has some catastrophic injury if that Jalen, I don't believe it's just a calf strain if I'm wrong, I'm wrong. But it looked like something else to me. Okay. If it's a catastrophic injury that affects the rest of his career, chasing, one last final is that is good, even competitively for him as making sure he's okay. And then playing the rest of his had a question for you. Stephen when it first happened called it, the weakest movie ever seen from a superstar you. Just said, if he wins the championship, and he's healthy. You're still going to discount it. He does not help that narrative by not playing at all, but he does if he can still be K D in the future winning a championship with another team. No, it doesn't work like that. Because now with the Golden State Warriors, we're trying to debate a lot of people are not me by saying is, they're better off is their office better without him are the ghost warriors champions without him. If they go to the finals a he does not play and they win the championship. Oh man. It just it becomes an avalanche. Matt. They've done it before the whole criticism was. They won a championship before he ever got there. So what's the difference really? But if, if Katie has a catastrophic injury because it really is maybe achilles related or not, or cousin to it or in some other weightless. Listen, if he's okay, then play, of course, but if there's a danger that he could have a catastrophic injury and that could affect the next. Several years of his career, which is the end of his prime probably over thirty years old, and he can never really prove what he could have done off the Golden State Warriors, that's worse for k D's get back in here. When you are an elite player, particularly when you're associated with championships. This is what you play for. It's not to discount that the money does that the money matters, it's to say that it doesn't matter once, you know, it's coming, we've talked about how K D has accumulated the next says Jalen of over three hundred million dollars in his career. We talk about the shoe deals. We talk about as play conscience. We've also acknowledged that even if he had to sit out the entire season, somebody would pay him do max dollars because he's that great and having him on your squad to the future, because a stab foundation upon which you can build. So when you arrive Kate, those things, you take it out of the equation, you'll minute from everything, now, it comes down to what are you made of? And I'm telling you right now, when you are a champion, and you been in that position, that's all of a sudden, that's what it's about when you know that other stuff you can count on, if you Katie. And you're good enough. Good enough healthwise to play. You're not going to sit up there and go man shoot. I could reenter myself. I can't play in the finals. New hair is good enough. Stephen yourself course if he's good enough to play. He should play. That's not the argument also. You act like he's a walk on the court hopping on one leg was saying them, and I got to be a part of this Chapman before. But you guys know that's what we expect of our athletes. And that's what Leonard is doing. And that's what we used to be compared to. So max, if the raptors make it to the finals, and you see co why not healthy but still performing, but yet KB is nursing his injury when he could possibly play because he prepared for free agency. That also is going to factor into the dynamics or something plays really depends on the nature of the injury. There was a lot of cynicism about Kawais injury. And everyone thought he was just forcing himself out of San Antonio. But consider that, that injury was legitimate. And that he didn't think he was being diagnosed properly, and that the rest of his career was very important for him. And the nature of this injury. He's now suffered he feels is not as catastrophic potentially going forward. Whereas katie's injury. I'm basing this guy's on katie's reaction when he first heard himself on a non contact play everyone in the world who watches sports goes, that's an achilles. Now we're being. Old. It's not. Okay. I don't believe it. Look like don't put court, I don't believe what if you recall max to bring up the point and Jalen, your remember this co-, why did not come back. He only played nine games, but it San Antonio's birth. There was a as meeting with Tony Parker and others. Confronted him. Wondering what was going on the one time where there was consideration of him coming back was when they went into the playoffs why? Because what had his competitive juices flowing is that even though I'm not one hundred percent. I mean damn these are the playoffs it matters. We're not talking about K D in a regular season. So regular season game while some first round game talking about the NBA finals a championship for line twenty three points up on the Golden State Warriors, and he was not from here. Here. I'm talking about last que but the point is we can see points. Kawais grew. And I thought he was the second best player in the world. And they had a huge lead on the unbeatable, Kevin Durant warriors in that first season when they were at their Beth, and he couldn't play anymore. That was it. I'm not saying if it's just a cast rain and they feel comfortable he's gonna play I'm saying, I don't believe he clearly cares about the narrative, and if the Golden State Warriors win the championship, and he does not play is going to be worse. But everybody's I if they lose and Jalen, you brought that up several times if the warriors win the championship without K, d do you think that will push him out of Golden State? I think he's leaving regardless and the thing about it. He thought going to the wars and having championship glory was going to bring happiness. And this is something that athletes, and people continue to learn as you start to get older. Your accomplishments, shouldn't equal, your happiness, and even though that happened he still was grumpy him and Kyrie Irving with. Two of the most unhappy people in the entire league this year. We're already speculating that are best player playing on the best team is automatically gonna leave. He's not come out. One time and said I love it here. I love playing with these guys. I wanna be a part of this. So that's what I am -ticipant will Jalen. Do you know what I think you've missed here, not to dispute anything that you're saying because I'm not something you didn't add you talk about the warriors, and if they win without K D that's not a narrative, you know, whether or not, you know what narrative he really, really doesn't want. If the finals are going on and katie's not playing and then people start questioning whether or not he's even rooting for the warriors. That's a great point ones. Brought that up you're going to have people that's question. It ain't going to be me. It ain't going to be g you Jalen is probably not going to be max. What I'm telling you. We all know there are people that are going to say, does he want the warriors, you know, I think Peyton was free line that second Super Bowl, Stephen. We don't have to speculate because with Seth curry came out and said that the warriors were tougher the guard without K D, there was a poll on Instagram, the ask did you agree? Yes or no? Katie got into the comments and say hell Naw, so he's deadly paying attention to all of these narratives, so on this debate right here should Katie prioritize free agency or the finals. I like to do a little by little Chari agents in Jamie, this, and their argument max, they sacrifice. No money. He sacrifices no money. It's bad for his legacy says Jalen, if he sits out and Stephen says he is a competitor and competitors. Play on your side of the ledger. Max for why should prioritize free agency? You have. If it impacts his health long-term, right? It actually it's his legacy. It's Jalen point. I think he's jeopardizing his legacy more by jeopardizing his future health. Hey, it's Dan Patrick here to tell you about the Dan Patrick school. The sportscasting of teamed up with full sail university to create a sports casting bachelor's degree you work both on and behind the cameras. And you build skills for the future of sports so you can connect with audiences no matter where they are or how they're tuning in. Learn more about full sail universities. Dan, Patrick school to sportscasting by going to full sail dot EDU slash Dan. Patrick school. As if things couldn't get worse for the rockets after another series loss to the warriors, tensions, reportedly boiled over in the locker room after they were eliminated according to the athletic James harden. Chris Paul had multiple tints moments with one another throughout game six that led to a war of words in the locker room. It's noted the argument Senator around ball distribution in Houston style of play. Let's go to Steven Steven. I understand you have some information on that. And I'm gonna ask you this question is well, how then do the rockets fix their problems three things I want to say, number one, considering the first two segments of this show with the drivel that was coming out of max Kellerman mouth. I want America to know I love this man because he knows how exhausted and tired, I am, and he did it on purpose to wake me up. So I think my brother max Kellerman, good looking out, bro. Good looking up, number two in all seriousness yesterday. Before I did the six o'clock support center, the story had come out in the guys about what had happened with C P three and James harden in the aftermath of game six I had several players. Get me on a conference call who remain nameless to emphatically denied that there was any truth to that whatsoever. They acknowledged that there was some friction between CPI three and James harden, as it was with CPI three and others on the court during game six, but they said, that's always seeping threes, a pit bull. He gets after it, and gets after people that he doesn't feel are doing the things that they're supposed to do, but there was absolutely, positively no carryover into the locker room, no situation where ultimately guys had to end up going their separate ways because it was so heated people were devastated that they lost. But it was that simple. There was no truth to any friction. That was carried over into the locker room. Now the answer your question will about what you. The rockets do from here. I think they should replace Mike, then tone. And I don't say it like Mike. Dantonio deserves to be fired. I don't say it like Mike dantonio can't coach what I'm saying is might dantonio Myers, mation max is a coach that you bring that you bring in to create excitement, reinvigorate or invigorate an offense when you regular season games, and maybe a couple around in the postseason. But when you are talking about championship competing for championship. I don't believe that my dad Tony is that guy. I think that Mike Tony the system that he employs it usually puts an insurmountable amount of weight or tremendous level of weight on the shoulders of one individual. And you ride that in rod, it into the ground to the point that has the. Postseason wayne's. And you're preparing for best of seven series, somehow, some way, that individual is not going to have what it takes to propel you over an elite team. So I think that might then Tony is a damn good coach. I think that he belongs being a coach in the NBA. But if I'm Tillman for Tita owner for the Houston Rockets, who I've had the pleasure of getting to know an speak spoken to on several occasions. And this man does not play. He's the real deal. He's reminded me of how he came from nothing and how he started with one restaurant and look at what the hell he's done. He's worth over five billion dollars right now. This man is about winning. He believes in himself, and I don't believe there might then Tony as demand that's going to get it done for, I don't. Okay. I to your Mike dantonio point, I couldn't disagree more in this case. And once I thought, as you do about Tony. I thought he's a guy you brought in to inflate assets to are they wrote about this moneyball, Michael Lewis did about Billy bean? He would take a good hard door who could throw strikes make them closer rack up a bunch of saves and then trade him for someone who is actually really good. Because people were hammered with the save stat that happens with dantonio, you can bring them in. There's a faster pace more points or scored and all the players stats look make them look better than they really are. And I would think if I'm a GM I'd use dantonio inflate the assets, and then trade them for players who actually thought were really good. So I thought that way about dantonio and maybe it's still true to an extent, but I disagree. When it comes to the rockets, Stephen, the reason the rockets are able to compete the way they are with the warriors this year notwithstanding. Although they took them six games that didn't happen like with Portland. For example, the. Reason they're able to do that is precisely because of Mike Dan, Tony system because they had Thomas, the hall of Famer laments and yells at me about if you score from all five areas, not just three points, the paint and the free throw line, but also mid range and down on the block. It's harder to defend you, but you have to be so judicious in terms of how often you go to the block in the mid range, because the, the returns aren't good on those kinds of investments. So because Mike dantonio invest, so heavily heavily Freudian slip on the most important areas of the court, the most efficient areas. The rockets actually play over their heads, and then have people like Stephen Smith here on I take saying well in order to get over the top. They are over the top. The reason they get this far is because of Dan Tony system. Now, how do they get over the hump and actually win a championship? Stephen James harden, can't be looking for calls on threes to tie the game on the road in game one and looking for the rest of Bela. James harden, campy dribbling, the ball out of bounds and not hitting bigshots. Let me say this about you your, your point about inflating the assets is an incredibly stupid point. And I'll give you a lot of credit for that because I do understand what you're saying that 'cause dantonio in this system, and what he's able to do for players, Daryl Morey is exactly the kind of GM skillful enough to take those plated. It assets and making into something you're absolutely right about that. But I would say the you this. And by the way, I don't hold anything against dantonio losing in the second round, I believe if it were not the warriors, the Houston Rockets would have been to the conference finals against Dan, Tony in these playoffs. So it's just that you ran into Hugh golden blades around before. But I'm just saying to you. When I look at superior teams in the NBA, if you are a team, you're going to be the Mike, Dan, Tony team in the postseason. Hold on. I just going to do it. I had to follow up with both of you, then who is the inflated? Set on the rockets, then it's actually harden because harden, it's not that he's not capable of doing great things even without Dan. Tony. But the kind of numbers that put him in the category of Michael Jordan, and Kobe Bryant, and like the greatest two guards ever. He's not as good as those guys even off. That's the Dan, by the way. Steve Nash won back to back MVP's, and I match Steve Nash, he was not as good as the historical players who went back to back MVP. But I'll tell you. But I'll tell you what her argument Clint cappella got a five year, ninety million dollar contract primarily because of what he was able to do in my Tony system. Right. But when he went up against Golden State for the first few games, he was somewhat limited and exposed why. Because we, you're prepare for a best of seven, that's an asset that you were able to neutralize. So what I'm saying to you, as you look at James harden, that wasn't a system issue per se with James harden, based on what you're talking about that was James harden. Whereas in the case of Clint cappella, he was either his, he was either bloated and inflate it all. He was compromised by the system when it really counted, pick your poison then laying that I will come up with this Clint cappella. Well, I, I understand what you mean about harden harden is a great offensive player, even without dantonio Antoni bets out, this even when then Tony showed up and they were already going to harden a lot. Right. But he averaged thirty six points a game this year. If no Ryan Tony no thirty six points a game. Okay, hard. That's fair. That's fair. But accurate taught by saying this dantonio had Steve Nash. She's had a Mari by job Shawn Marion he's had Joe Johnson. He had Kobe Bryant and the White House. He had I mean he's in New York. Well Carmella was gone about McGovern Mela basically pushed him out because he didn't want Carmelo. They wanted to Nilo Gallinari and Wilson Chandler and those boys. But then he goes from New York, I'm sorry year. Phoenix in New York. You're in LA now, you're in Houston, how many times are we going to make explanations for a man? That hasn't gotten to my door all his brilliance. He has never coached in an NBA funds right now. He's all he wants a three year extension the suspensions against the Spurs kept him out of the finals, and they probably would have won the championship. But you're right. I've been plenty critical of Dan, Tony. And the fact that they got his Delic is key without a defensive coordinator. He can't do it but Steven mentioned the guys who just mentioned the teams who just mentioned when Dan, Tony has a willing news. A Steve Nash James harden. It works when he doesn't Akobe Bryant. Carmelo doesn't buy it. It's not gonna work rhetorical question. Because we gotta go, but the definition of work is different than mine. I'm saying to you Mike dantonio deserves to be a coach in the NBA. But when you are trying to win a championship he has evidence that can do that. I'll say one statement, real quick will and then I'll give it up. I'm saying this, if you get off of Dan, Tony, the rockets will get worse. Maxing out what they can do. Right. And the question remains, how would you fix the rocket? Stephen, as answer is changed coach your answer. So far is simply James harden, has to play better my author pressure. Let me let me offer at least one thought experiment. It's interesting that you bring up Clint Capella is inflated asset. Stephen a what about a name like Kevin love. What about something on the trade market five in love would fit really nicely in baby? I like Clint cappella be enough to bring back Kevin. I think trade clinic appello, but. Let's see. Well, I don't I don't I don't I don't disagree with that will. But what I'm saying is in a best of seven series. You gotta play on both ends of the floor and you can't be predictable. You can't say this is what we got figure out a way to beat us. My dad Tony is pretty predictable. It's successful but up to a point anywhere he could coach most places in the NBA. If you're trying to win a title there is no evidence he's your guy data's what for Tita is thinking about as he sits back and contemplates should I give this man at three year extension that even and then he's not. You're not just pulling that out of thin air. I understand that. Stephen, I'll say this to when they signed CPA three, the question was could those to coexist in the back court and the answer was yes, it worked, like when, when the Knicks got Earl the Pearl with CLYDE Frazier. There's only one basketball, but it worked they wanna championship, and it looked like these two maybe could do it the way they were working together. And then C P three. Started declining. We can see clearly. This is not C P three in his prime anymore. And so James harden, either needs a better crime partner at this point, and C P threes, career or to Will's point, they need to bring in a third guy who can maybe become the second guy to, to right away that inflated asset. You suggest to get that you may have to. I just don't know if that's Kevin love. Okay.

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Nick Santonastasso - 5 Powerful Perspective Shifts To Empower Your Mind

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Nick Santonastasso - 5 Powerful Perspective Shifts To Empower Your Mind

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Nick has just come off tour with Tony Robbins and as you know. We've had him on the podcast before. He is an absolute powerhouse based in industry for him to really give the badge of approval for somebody like Nick at twenty three years old nor this guy has got to have some flames underneath. He's about here so I'm excited satellite to hear how nick is blown up his global keynote. Speaking business how he was able to feature on Forbes how he models and really gets out there but more importantly nick has auto legs and hey is one on and he is just in to life and diving in and he puts so many people that have you know full physical capability. He just has no excuses in our limitations. I'm so excited Nick for you to share your wisdom with the addicted to success community. Sorry I'll command. Thank you thank you for that that intro. That was bomb rather I am. I'm grateful for that particular man. Thanks for having me on here. Do think you're the BUMMED DOT com. I've been watching your content content for a while now and I just love that you like. I said you dive into life like you literally. Do you jump into pools and swim. Underwater for long periods is a time. You're breaking snowboard. You hanging out with the Rock you like rock in stages with tens of thousands and you just have this no limit mindset and I would would really love to dive into your mind and let. Let's go through some philosophies right. Now what is it that you believe about yourself man. If you really like say one to two things Oh you north foreshore about you that you feel something that you ride quite often that really allows you to be an impoundment most days. Yes so one thing that is that is pretty knew it like a new belief on but like I said the majority of my life. I didn't really know like what was going on. Or why why this was going on and so the one thing that I've realized over these past couple years like there was there was two ways I look at life one was like. Wow this freak accident like I was born this way just like a freak accident student like stuff happens or the second way that I can look at. It was like well. I was strategically put in his body. Because my soul knew what it was capable of doing and how much of an impact it could have have in such a unique situation because You know that I was guided that I was put here on purpose when the world is hurting in a rough time which it is and so like. That's the way that's more my I feel like I. I always believe that I'm guided and Maccabi from God. The universe whatever whatever you believe in a higher energy a believing and I believe guided that. I was put adheres strategically in this unique body Because you know what I've realized over my life is like the one thing that I was pushing away the most which was my body. I hate my body actually became my biggest biggest tool to influence people. My biggest tool to break people down to get the get the barrier on their mindset like lower and then open up to me. You know in in an authentic open fashion which thank creates breakthroughs. And so that's my first philosophy and then the second one is why not like like why not. WHY NOT MAY I? I think the majority of people always think of like well. That can't happen like I can't have that. Well why don't you flip it and say like why not you you know L. Like why can't they be a DJ. Why can't I be the first Calvin Klein model with no legs? Like why not like. Who's going to tell me and I think that that was my always always philosophy because we all have the outside noise right we all have the haters the naysayers the people that always? There's always GonNa be people that tell us what our goals are too big that were crazy. What's your plan? B should have went to college but like my whole thing was like much much rather be in the field in the trenches like working. I'm working on a dream of mine and like doing something that I don't like and I and I think that like the the concept of time like people just think like times forever in like next thing you know they wake up in their fifty like Oh man like. I wish I would've did all this things that I didn't have the courage to do you know I don't WanNa be that Yemen you to move with haste time so is short. It's it's interesting people award about wasting Z.. Money which comes and goes by a lot of people want consumer their time for whatever reason yeah exactly we twenty three years old man and you get this this already and I love this. What would you say has been your biggest breakthrough moment where you had this like this pain? You were living in this breakdown down wherever it may be and you will like. I've had enough and you did something different. You did something different than logic breakthrough. What was that moment? What did you do that? That was different yet. The thing that's the thing that screams out to me the most was the majority like the major like I'm twenty three years old so when I say the majority of my life that's like seventeen in eighteen nineteen years of my life. I you know I was in this position where I never received the feminine love that I wanted like I never received love from females females in the way that I wanted to in my whole life. You know always blamed it on. My Body always blamed it on my physical differences that I would just like. I always say like girls were my biggest suicidal trigger. Because because you know I wanted that love just I guess I wasn't wasn't in the mindset to accept that love or I I was always focused on my body than I thought it was. You know the the thing that I was keeping all these females away right will fast forward fast forward a little bit about a couple of years ago I reframe body image and how I reframe body image was realizing well maybe my body is actually working for me and instead of a working against me. It's actually filtering out the type of females. I don't want my life anyway because if a human being let alone a female L. doesn't WanNa further connection with me WanNa love me because of my physical differences will that already filters out the type of person they are anyway. This is actually working for me and then that was that you know. Oh step my confidence up Just in general in life But just another breakthrough in in that section of life is realizing that Like it doesn't really comedown. Looks it comes down the president's Bro. Like it comes down to like being there your physical presence. I mean I think especially with phones tablets and computers. Nowadays that like human human interaction is diminishing like human. Interaction isn't as prevalent as it was and people have a hard time having conversations locking is like a like for the fellows out there like a girl just wants you to show up in like be present in lock is in like be one on one with them like then they'll feel your your your masculine energy. Then you'll feel your know your your allfamous right. But like that's what was a breakthrough in me realizing low. Yo It's not the body it's actually energy is actually the energy put off the presence. You put off because I'll tell you what if you're in person with me and we were locking is and we were in a conversation. You would totally forget the fact that I had no legs that one man you hitting on such a great point. It's very interesting because I was talking to my friend about this the other day the I've had experience experience where I was at an event and one day I went in I just off a wall my favorite shirt of one of my favorite pants and like a number like to me. I'm like Oh this is what I would look best in right because you'll have like Alfred so up no interest at all right and then the day after that. You had a massive breakthrough in the day. After that that I went in with something that I wouldn't consider like my my best but for whatever reason it was attracting the Feminine Women In and and also like it was really interesting. And you're right. I realized when I was talking to my friend about this is like it's the energy that we bring to the table and also the feminine isn't necessarily looking for something to look good. They're wanting that connection right. They want that presence. They won that yet the energy and I think that we as men because we also focused on thinking like this is what it needs to be big needs to be massive. You know like you. You're good friends with the Rock. I need to be huge like the Rock in order to get that success. It's not necessarily the thing like it helps hopes of his see to some degree but alike that you've really tapped in and realize. Wow it's about the way that I manage. My energy is about having that connection and that attentiveness awareness awareness with others done. Obviously that's willing life the thing I really love as well as you have a lot of fun and I think that people want to be around people that are fun and it seems like you've lost to this. What would you say has been the most epic experience you've ever had? Oh man the great question. The most epic experience I've ever had do this. There's so many So many experiences I would say I would say even just the simple thing of like like having an adaptive snowboard made for me And so you know as able to team up with some guys from masterminded Abundance and They they actually gave gave an assignment to their one of their assistance. younger kids. He's like fourteen and they're like is it like a young entrepreneur. They gave him an assignment to cold. Call a bunch of snowboard award places to see who could make an adaptive snowboard for me and so he was cold call and get rejected get rejected and then finally He called this place called deviation in my friend now Danny any Picked up and she's like yeah totally. Like I've never done it before but I take up the challenge and you know next thing you know a couple of months later on I'm in Colorado when I'm shredding down a mountain it's it was. It's a snowboard with a skateboard deck on top of it and then a five piece racing harness that straps me into the board Like how you would lock feet and like I picked up snowboarding and I'm like good at it and it's like a new form of running. It feels like you know. I've never had the experience the feeling of running or going fast on my own On my own power not like a car or anything but just off momentum and so like snowboarding has been Like kind of like a breakthrough moment for me in an amazing experience for me because not only one amount in nature with my buddies in my friends But like I'm doing something that I'm like. I think I could do a lot of things. I never thought it'd be able to snowboard. You know in like successfully Malayan so It's like a new hobby of mine and you know with all the traveling that I have going on. I've been I've been realizing to put more focus on things that really fuel me up. Like because like I view myself as a lantern ammos trying to give light. I'm trying to give light but like if I don't feel myself up with the things that I love to do I I can only give so much right and so like I've been starting to focus you know a portion because like you know how it is like or quirk like hustle grind grind grind. But like I start veering being a little bit more to like okay. Why needs some time? I WANNA go snowboard or I want to do you know I'm GonNa Chill here And so long long drawn out answer like one of the biggest best experience of my life is being able to snowboard new hobby that I never thought I'd be able to do. Yeah wow what would you say has been the biggest less than when you have had instilled within you from Tony Robbins compassion. You want to know how to win in life compassion. So you know I'm I'M A. I'm a student of the game. It's one of the one of my core values in my personal life in the business. It's been a student of the game and so you know I've been grateful for the opportunity to be on you know. Go around and speak at Tony's events these past couple of events and being proximity with them. I'm always analyzing I'm always watching. How he speaks seeks tonality and that man like it goes for all speakers? Both you go out and this was early in my career if you go out on stage and you're like boom boom like aggressive aggressive like you need to do this this like you're only going to appeal to a certain amount of the crowd. The Alpha males the Alpha males in the in the crowded like F.. If this guy you know I don't like the ways communicating with everybody needs to be communicated differently right and so the beauty behind Tony which I've learned through him is. He has the ability to get intense when he needs to get intense and then bring it back to compassion when he needs compassion and like if if he's if he's intervention someone and he's and he's and he's GonNa make You know a direct point or an intense point. He won't even look at the personal look through the crowd so he knows that. So he doesn't make the person feel like he's just ripping on him he's talking to the crowd and then when he comes back to him he's more compassion and and he's already led them to answers but the one thing that like my biggest lashes compassion like compassionate business compassionate relationship chips. Like a lot of us were achievers. And were achievers in our in our going in were driving and then when things don't go our way or we triggered we tend to go read. We tend to go into this mode. Would've like anger in like I want to get this done. And it's my way or the highway but if you take a moment and you take a breath and you come from A the language of compassionate talking through compassion like things will get solved a lot easier. You have better connections. You have more success in relationships in business because like anger doesn't get you anywhere I've realized has just the power of compassion that one word compassion Having compassion for people your coworkers. Your clients like compassion. Like it's everything the new breakthrough this is only like two weeks old breakthrough like wow. Yeah wow I love the I love it. Yeah it's funny. I mean you hear these things. All the time like the Dalai Lama talks about it. And you hear you know like a lot of these big figures that share the importance of it and I think we can understand it on a cognitive hug cognitive level but then one we've actually experienced it within ourself whether it's spiritually or emotionally whatever. It may be well. All the plane landed good night. Now I get it and has to come from some moment or experience what would you say. Was that experience for you where you felt. The most. Let's say tapped captain's offer compassion. Like what could you share that moment with us a week and connect with that too I attract I attract people. People tend to like just like tell me their life stories are telling me like the problems albums things are going through and so like not to give like direct details on someone's life but if someone came up to me you know and they were going through some hard things right like maybe they were a drug addict. There may be they. They overdosed or someone died in the family. I don't know you name it. But as humans our instant our first instinct is like the judge. Like to judge what they're going through and like the the moment someone feels judge you. You've basically eliminated all your power to help them breakthrough or or help influence them because they're like this they can feel it. You can feel people judgy right and so You know if someone came up to me like I feel I guess at the moment of compassion him when I can just be like not even judge. Just try to feel what they're going through. And because like I said you know it's like our first instinct the judge people and so like when people will judge. You can't help them. They don't want to be helped. And so like like training your brain to not going to instant judgment mode but to just feel them just to just feel what they've been through And maybe I answered the question wrong of a moment that someone was compassionate with me but like a moment that I feel. Compassion is like those moments when people come up to me with their deepest darkest Chris you know demons and I have to come from Najd Judgmental place like shut. Feel what they're going through the help them get through. It doesn't make sense. It does absolutely. Does I like that you you hit on the point of when you judge someone at closes off that connection and I believe that we judge others because we already judging myself and this whole thing of compassionate you talking about where it's like. I may not fully understand it because I'm like Gavin experience that exact thing but I've seeked to understand like it's my mission to understand it. That's why the questions that's why I'm president. That's why I'm holding space spice and and I do love it. That's the leader that you all man and it's really important. Your career will just go sky high man if you keep bringing that energy to the room because the people really want is they wanna feel seen heard and understood. Yeah exactly like said that like if roots down to like presence like kids you know. Parents aren't present with their kids anymore. Like they don't lock is like they don't look at each other and ask you how you're doing like everything's through tax and they give them an IPAD for you know babysitting like humans. Humans are losing human interaction. Which is the biggest gift of at all and so I just want to bring awareness that 'cause I'm like I'm passionate about like you know? Tony always talks about like the only way. The world's going to change if we have like a consciousness consciousness shifts like consciousness shifts like like we have to change the way we're thinking and so like that would be like the one question I would want to ask him if I got a privately. Like how do we make a consciousness. You know shift in the world right. I just want like till to wake people up to like the the important things in life because especially with social media you know like there's so many times where we can look at something it'd be like. Oh successes that you know. Success is when I have car is GONNA and have the money and the instagram followers really. What we're what we're chasing isn't emotion? We just WanNa feel love like it. Sounds according hippie but like broke humans just want love. I just wanted to feel loved and cared for and fulfilled. Said like you know. It's it's it's it's like way awakening people up. It's like you can have all the money in the world. There's plenty of examples of people that all had all the money in the world and still weren't fulfilled. It's just like we're chasing emotion. We do crazy things for love and insignificance in certainty. All these like. Yeah we want we want met like now. Yeah we do crazy now. Yeah we all want it now by the way that's another that's another another toxic thing that's going on because we live in a day and age where you get a text message instantly you get a facetime instantly you get your breeds in a couple of minutes you get your net flicks and then when you build a business thing you're not successful in two years freak out Doesn't make sense is crazy man. I like being from the odor school. I'm I'm a young bull coming out so like I got. I gotTA help my fellow young ones. You know like they go give it some time. Like Roma's ability. You know. Rome wasn't built by. I just turn on Netflix. Like making a three D Hologram. You gotta you gotTa build it out love that example. Doesn't it twenty. They love it. So when you're speaking at these events because I know you've been doing this for a little while now and has really ramped up in the last year what framework or exercise or whatever may be. That's an actionable thing that the listeners can follow what would it be for. Do you feel like you almost powerful framework that you could take your share with mindlessness your own addicted to success. Because I like I like action might implement. Yeah absolutely so the first thing for any any speakers out there anyone who's like facilitating masterminds round stage. You know one of the one of the frameworks at work or uses story lesson lesson application and so you tell the story that kind of pre frames the lesson you go into the lesson you share the lesson and then you give them something actionable you give them questions to answer the answer and so One we can do right now. That is actionable as I think. I I. Think the majority of non Schuman's entrepreneurs a lot of the times we're working and and we don't know why we're working like we kind of forget about our why and you know I always talk about. It's not camp at how in the house important. But what's more important than how it was like the Wi- like having compelling future future Vision because that's GonNa pull you on the days where you don't want to get it bad and then there's GonNa be a lot of days where we don't Wanna get out of bed right and so this is like a simple simple something in question that all the audience can ask right now is like how a genuine authentic transparent conversation with yourself and ask yourself. Why do you do what you do every day? Like why do you get up every day. Like what is your source of motivation. What do you want your life to look like you know how like? What is you? Want Your House look like. How many kids do you want like what certain cars you have? Or what does the experience you wanted to have because because like when you really get crystal clear on like wire doing what you're doing like I said there's a lot of tedious things that we don't want to do in our day to day right but say your big Y was like your family emily. You wanted to take them on experiences and say you're cold calling and you're just about you know give up for the day you looked over and it was a picture of France in your family and you're like man a couple more calls halls and I could take my family to France. Is that GONNA push the person to make more calls. Yes or no rights and so like so. That's the question that we can also reflect on actually doing him. I'm going to be facilitating a mastermind call tomorrow for our our taste syndicate for ED and Andy's mastermind and it's basically you know about creating enthusiasm enthusiasm and enthusiasm enthusiasm and How you create enthusiasm is like have compelling future like what what polls you like what what drives you to do what you do and so I want the audience right now to get super honest with themselves and just ask yourself like why do I do what I do? And then if you don't have an answer like that's not a bad thing just just create a compelling why why like. Why do you do what you do because you like helping people do like? Are you a veteran because you like dogs like why do you do what you do in the end and I think that when you can I need to write down a sentence or two that really defines your y and like memorize it or just like see it every day when you wake up because dude like I look like energizer bunny on stage and I'm like you know I'm all Rah like going ham but you we all have days where we don't WanNA get out of bed right and if I didn't didn't have a Wybrow if I didn't have anything that really fueled me I'd get complacent. Wow Dude love this. I love it because just before the call I break something down with you and and it was an experience that I have with Tony Robbins. And it's like let's talk about on the podcast with this because you know a good Three years ago I was onset onset of this movie called we rise up twenty and this was in Denver Colorado Enisa Conference Center and there was an event going on at the same in times. This tony came in to recall Dawson and he would go speak. At the event he walks in the room. Noah's him he's two bodyguards and he's like he looked like out of it. You know and he. He walked in sweat nod and he just looked drained and The producer was what Tony. What's going on? And he said I just came out of surgery. He had Surgery shoulder in the meds wearing off and everything else and he sits down. He's like like this 'cause like you sat down. It was like a shocking through his arm and his eating so much pain. You said it's excruciating and it was really interesting to watch him in that process. This guy that you know. I've seen just like you know. Basically move mountains and and massive breakthroughs in and marinas of tens of thousands and to see him there on the shell like. Oh my Gosh I'm GonNa get my get myself together for this moment and it was really cool to see communities like getting himself in a state of a you know he gets himself in a state and then he starts filming that you gotTa Follow Your Passion. It did. He hid himself he might. I think you might have hid himself on the chess or whatever it is the anchor. Yeah like and a AH anyway. So he delivered like on point in front of cameras soon as Amazon if you went back to his human pain and batting with him and he he said you know. Let's get a pitcher. So I get a photo with him and I got my hand on his back and his dripping with sweat and I could feel his body shaking like he was in Pam and anyway so he said look go gotta go now. I've got to go speak this event. He leaves the room with his bodyguards. They gave us some VIP tags after we finished filming some more. I went across to the event and I saw him Dana speaking on stage and he said to the run he said you know what right now and by that point I think he is sitting down on a chair and he's like trying to move around. He's just kind of sitting and he said I'm an excruciating pain but he said I told myself over and over again because this limiting story of like you can't do this or just call in sick like coal it off. I have a judy. And an obligation massive responsibility to fulfil my vision. And my mission with you. I'm here today because I owe it to you. You know like you came came here for me to learn and for yourself and I'm here to support you in that. And he says sometimes you just got to burn the frick boats and I just love that he he he just keeps it so strong and it reminded me at times whenever I felt sick before an event or you know I might not have enough sleep the night before but I had to get up first thing in the morning and and and be the leader that I was born to be an elite at your born to be the same hours remember. Tony signed you go to burn the boats step in. It's your responsibility ability. And that was a psycho steam excruciating pains like breakthrough it. No matter what Sir Dude Yeah I mean the guy sixteen like Bro. I just got back from an event in like thirteen hours. Straight onstage Our straight holding a room holding a room the whole time like jumping up and down and like yeah Bro. And that's the power of the mind like literally conditioned conditioned himself he. He's she's condition himself. Who prided himself is just like he's like the always said he's like this guy you see on stage? I created this man you know and and that's the same thing you know. I tell people dude like I was a depressed suicidal fat bat out of shape kid like I built myself. I built this person and you could build. You can build yourself to like this where I get a little weird where like I view. I view the video. I I view life as a video game on like this is a video game and every day I wake up and I have to restart my programming and I have to positive things in my head because our brains designed to be negative. This is a big computer system. And it's like it's this is going to run your life or you're gonNA run your life and once people realize that they're in control and they can really create their destiny in their own video game and they can manifest things in put things out in the universe in worked towards it and things attract. That's real it's real stuff you know like you're in control of your game and I always have a funny joke. Always tell people like Mike Tony knows it's a video game but it can't just tell people to video games so basically he's created events to to show you how to live a full video game and dislike that if the programming Bros your. It's your programming in you. Know there's there's so much Conditioning happening in priming going on. I mean like we are our whole years of sitting in a classroom and we have to raise our hand to talk and then the bell rings and we go to the next room. It's just like we're getting conditioned to listen to other people and being like a you know a a like a worker bee like we're conditioned our whole life and it's and it's funny because we're getting taught by teachers who make thirty thousand forty thousand dollars a year trying to teach us on business or something that they've never achieved because if they really wanted if they really were doing something that you know if they really doing their dreams they wouldn't be teaching and don't get me wrong. There's a lot of teachers that their that their dream is teaching and we need teachers and teachers are amazing. I'm not bashing teachers but I'm saying there are a lot of the people that are teaching that have other dreams like trying to teach us how to live our dreams like it doesn't really make it doesn't really make sense. Also in the fact that like in school you're taught to like all what are your weaknesses. Let's focus on that. But when you get entrepreneurship world it's like let's double downing strength and outsource or weaknesses. It's like it's like the total opposites. Funny absolutely yeah and to that point. That's why I like to encourage my students that come in learn brand marketing from me and how to build that coaching business of speaking business. Always say don't be like some of the others that are out there where they're just doing it for the money like really focused on results and when you get results consistently then you start to build your brand on top for that and I think that maybe to your point of you know we go to school and learn from people that haven't really been able to create a high level of it would probably doing the same thing you know for the most part hot only step in to real world or the outside world of of you know creating your own Kabale Pause and become an entrepreneur is really important to stay authentic antic an end to serve make service a tough thing. Now what have you got lined up in the way of your own speaking events your arm programs and things is that nature yeah so right now Trying to build like basically a little insight on like what what's going on operation aberration. Wise is like our arm angle right now to get a gold medal in like booking so like get the schedule book. Doubt Book that booked out And then we've started. The process of likes the sales funnel with dumped a lot of money in sales on email campaigns but didn't have the didn't have the back end in place and like totally throw ourselves in the waters like we took like one week. We're reading like email campaigns. Sales funnels trying to learn ourselves and It was just like I'm just not a sales funnel guy like speaker right and so We're right right now. We're focused on getting like a gold medal getting booked on all stages all around the world Building building the email list you know capturing emails building email lists But but then like I have a program but I wanted like it's it's it's ready to roll out but I don't want to roll it out because I want the experience to be like top notch like if people are paying for something I wanted deliver liberal right and so I'm just not comfortable enough yet with the program to like really push it out there on but what I wanna do is Start Doing Group coaching of group coach like masterminds. So basically you know zoom call all Where a bunch of people joined at the same time and I facilitate a group coaching them through an experience and have the right questions in human interaction with the questions? Nations provides breakthroughs. Like I want to start doing more group coaching. But also like you said events like there's so many ways we can spread ourselves thin but eventually we wanna do our own events in bring. Can you know athletes in fitness people. In you know spiritual people like the whole the whole nine yards AM basically just make like you know like a bad ass event and But as of now it's like that's another thing like we have the folks not like throwing events is a big like big deal like it's not very it's it's not very easy you know. Oh you throw events and so it's it's hard and so you know eventually we'll get get up to there but right now I'm just trying to build the foundation of kind of being all over getting on as many stages as we can and then You know like I said a move in Vegas within the next few months and I'm moving to Vegas not only for the proximity of speaking events and and you know there's so many events going on but also the entertainment aspect because you know I'm going into the music and the DJ and how we were talking about before the call like I want to bring the inspiring the positive light into an industry music industry that needs it. You know. These kids needs a positive role model. Rather than you know getting getting promoted to Zanex lean you know all all these different drugs I mean I wanna bring good to Industry that's not so good. I love that man. I love bringing light to the space. That's amazing with the content that you're putting out right now. Would you say is your favorite piece of content or favorite favorite message that you have shared. Yeah when we can when we can train our brains the always find the good in every situation and you know like that is super powerful because I think oftentimes like I myself on what we're all working through our own triggers like we have things that trigger us you know like I think like the best thing is being being able to live in like a like a beautiful state you know all the time like always finding the good in every situation And pulling out the the juice in the knowledge in the perspective and the different look at things from when you fall down you know and so I think that that would be such a level up for anyone if they could just you know train themselves to be in like a shitty moment in that moment ask themselves like what's the deeper meaning like what's the deeper meaning in this. What else can I pull from this? What's the win because you know like Our brain is always focused on what we don't have an all the losses and failures but like I've always just train myself to just find the good in what is good. What can I pull from this? And how can I move on. Because this way you're not you're not you're not afraid to fail like whatever you think. Failing is like a lot of people are just afraid to fail. Feel fear failures like the number one fear and so if we can get people will do just realize like I'm going to step into failure. I'm going to step in uncomfortable situations. I'm GonNa when when things get Shitty I'm GonNa ask myself what's the deeper meaning and I'm GonNa Learn from it then you don't you you don't lose you know there's a quote by Nelson Mandela love and he says in life I don't lose only winner learn and if we can just train our brains a winner learn bro like people would be able to live in in a much more beautiful state. We wouldn't get pissed off in traffic or the fact that you know like my tire pressures offer. I admit I missed my exit. Like people get triggered in pissed off over the stupidest stuff I like. I JUST WANNA be Ha- I would wanna find a find a way to be happy in every moment like every moment whether it's a definition of family or I got fired from a job like I need to find the good in every moment and I'm still working on it. I'm not perfect. I'm no where near perfect but like I can be self aware of it and I could be conscious of like trying to train my brain when things get shitty. Yeah Yeah I ah. I love that you said that. It's about not sweating the small stuff and I think that when you have a vision that is powerful when oppose you. You don't even even make time to sweat anything out except yourself moving towards engine right it just becomes this thing that you like. Wow this is exciting. This is is my life meaning. This is where I'm going and directed your intention on your life and you just don't have any space for anything else and knowing your guided like like I'm right where need be and things are just going to. You know I'm GonNa keep working hard but there's also going to be an invisible for us that you know puts things in my path that helps me out and lets me level up faster and and I think also being conscious of like where. You're spending your time where you're putting your energy. You know like in the beginning like a perfect example like in the beginning of my career when I was like pranking and making youtube videos like I would always read the comments in like I would like to go back at the haters or the hate comments. And then I realized like I'm doing doing mice not only myself but the true supporters a disservice by giving you energy to people that are writing negative when there's hundreds of thousands of positive but but that's just like that's the way of you know focusing on the negative and letting up his us off right and so just being conscious of your energy and like what. Are you spending your time on like bs in the past ask. Are you spending time on past events that already happened. Are you spending time on. You know like stupid comments. Or you're spending time on people making fun of you. That really doesn't really matter like just just as being very conscious of your time and your energy because like your like you said time and energy we can get back to the next level Bor comments Amandus is like like you said it was a one percent of the audience. That may feel that way and it's n- never usually about you. It's how they feel about themselves and they're trying to take that into the space absolutely. Yeah unfortunately we're in a world where there are people that are hurting and I think that someone like you who shows that there are no limits that it it's always about this like striving to really stay in that beautiful state or at least you know live in it as often as possible. I think that that's such a great great message. That you've embodied you represent that you don't just say it you actually live. And the recently Austin in INC magazine interview Dos me like what's leadership and us at the ultimate level of inspiration is to show others what's possible through your actions and that and that ended up being quoted and and the reason I think people felt is because they're like wow dots like it. It's not just saying doing and I love the show up. They every day every day. I see it man or whatever. Sure your social and if you guys listening right now watching us right now make sure you head over to Nick's instagram right. Nick Santo Nostalgia and fully him because she has so many inspiring messages and posts and even love the way your your captured in still remain. You're just slightly put on the table. You know you say as it is. Yeah and and I use humor. You know like I am a funny like I like to be funny and you know. There's there's a power in that Bro. Like when go on stage you know like one of the best compliments I've got I mean I've got like there. There's two complements that stand out. But you the Andy. Priscilla gave me a compliment. He was like he's like Bro. He's like it's not your body like what are you talking about. It's not your body intense and he's like it's not your body and I'm like why he's like he's like people don't love you because your body it's they don't love your speaking because of your body roads like how you present. I WANNA present like like you like you make people laugh you make people cry you make the pissed off at this of you make them do everything like it's not your body and it's just like you know reassurance for me but like I go out there and like I make people laugh and I make fun about make fun you know about myself and I make funny jokes and and it's not only to make people you know laugh but then they feel comfortable with me and when they feel comfortable may then eight then they're more more likely to share then they're more likely to be transparent and open up or or listen to be open mindset but I if I came onstage almost shoot shoot. I'm amazing like people wouldn't listen to me regardless of what my body looks like and so it comes down to like you know at like compassion to like. I love the word. Compassion is a breakthrough for me like a couple of weeks ago but like you know just like up trying to appeal to everyone but just like just like making people love you but in a good authentic way like not a slimy way just like showing up authentic genuine. And just like an and letting people know that you caring. You WanNa help doc. Because People's bullshit meters are very good nowadays Bro and like people want to know the secret sauce. I was saying today facetime on my people WanNa know the secret sauce. Be genuine person like show up and care for your client show up and care for your relationship and care for your family like make your clients feel like family make your clients feel like you care because once you drop the dollar sign above their head and you really are. You WanNa care you WANNA serve them. That's when you have more abundance in your life. There's no secret sauce throw like a good person is not many out there simplify. We're all trying to make everything so nick. What would you say? Maybe one to two books that you've read that you like wow. This is a game changer. I need to keep this on my bedside table. So there's an audio book better. It's outwitting the devil. Yeah winning to devil yeah and so basically in the audio book they have a voice they have like a Napoleon's voice or whoever's narrating reading the voice But basically you know talks about like the devils really just like that that voice in your head that tells you you can't do it or you know the little negative internal voice. You know. It's funny it it it really breaks it down in audio book is so much better And then let's see my second book and it's funny too because because my top to my my first to ever personal development books were was rancor. Don't be obsessive average in the ten x rule. That's how I got implemented. I mean that's how I got jumped into the personal velma world But I would say yeah. outwitting the devil by Napoleon Hill. And then I'm thinking grow rich. I mean that one like I think you have to continuously really read over and over again you. It's just like it's just like watching a movie like you watch it again and you get something out of it and so I'd say like Napoleon Hill again you know. They had some secrets back. Then you know. He freaks me out when he talks about like the council and he was able to have meetings in his head with Abraham Lincoln Benjamin Franklin. It's just the power of the mind though like when you really condition it in you train it and you realize it's the biggest superpower and it's it's your biggest tool craft your matrix or whatever you wanna call it like this. Is it. Have a quote that people love that you know people always quote me and I said over the twenty three years of my life. I realize it's not the physical body that holds us back but the biggest disability you can have as a bad mindset. and that's like yeah Bro. That's that's it. They love it good stuff thanks. Yeah a Thinking garbage movie is out as well. Yeah they they were doing a tour. They were doing actually a tour but I don't think they do it anymore But yeah that's a good one and and like I said it's something that you need to continuously read because you always look at a different or you read it in. Its it soaks in on a deeper subconscious level right. Yeah absolutely man you gotTa forge it into your subconscious. Because that's what we keep a lot about programs and so it's just hard time ago this this giant computers with skin on us. Here's grill also man. I think just to end off on this is like you know a lot. A lot of us are always operating from ahead and it's I think You know when we like compassion Bro when we go back to the heart and we really do what the heart with the heart says to do like take it always steers. You're right it's weird really weird and you know when when we were getting when when you're being formed as a baby the heart the heart was formed before the brain like the hardware before the brain and so that meant the heart had had the first intelligence you know so we got some weird things going on internally. Well let's say we we're living right now we're living between the miracle and the mystery in the miracle is will brought into this well in the mystery as what we don't I don't know what's there but we get to create whatever the hell we want. Yeah and no one. And everyone's looking for answers and no one knows and we're just spinning on a rock in the middle some blackstone and then as truth when Nick thank you so much man thanks a million appreciate you showing up today and pouring wisdom opt for the addicted to success community. Thank you so so much man. I appreciate your brother. I'm grateful for the opportunity and up is anything I could do on my end. I'm always here to serve. It sounds good and yeah like I said fully nick on Instagram. Is there anywhere else that can yeah. You can follow me on instagram. Nick Santa Sasso facebook Youtube and then I jumped just jumped on tick tock so I could be a little bit more funnier and low fun fact. I've gained gained in eighteen days. I've gained two hundred and forty thousand followers. So I think it's a good platform for me so I'm pushing on it. Wow take dogs bone up man. That's awesome thank you so much jumping in the last question I have on. Every interview is question. Here it is if you were to deliver your last thirty seconds speech to the weld. What would that lost thirty seconds? Sound like it's a great question never been asked that okay. Thirty second speech last week in my life I've met I've met billionaires event millionaires. They have all the money in the world. Have all the houses cars girls. Whatever may be in there still unfulfilled and so just make sure you're doing two things in life in that's always growing because if you aren't growing you're dying and always just find a way to contribute? Because that way you have a little fuzzy feeling inside and that's called fulfillment. And that's all we're searching for fulfillment.

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Survivor 40 Roundtable #4: Previewing Tony, Natalie, Jeremy, and Sarah

Rob Has a Podcast

2:28:38 hr | 1 year ago

Survivor 40 Roundtable #4: Previewing Tony, Natalie, Jeremy, and Sarah

"Hey everybody everybody. What's going on rob sister? No here and we are back with a another survivor. A round table here roundtable number four and I'm so excited because this is the day that the survivor cast has dropped officially so we have so much to talk talk about and so much to look at here today with our panel as we are going to be talking about the survivor class of twenty fourteen. We're GONNA be talking about Tony and Sarah and Jeremy and Natalie here with this panel. Let's let's meet everybody year. Who's with us today? Of course very very excited to have with us to talk some survivor. Here is Jenny Autumn. Jenny how are you. I'm great with you guys last week for the circle podcast and I was sick then. I'm still sick but I'm improving. So why do talking survivor. And I'm glad that we got some more sodas and bias today so rate photos to talk about that. We are very excited to have here with us us on a roundtable. The Great Haley strong is here. Haley how are you. I'm doing well. I can't believe you invited me to one of these to bring down the knowledge and the reputation of this entire podcast network. Who's your person tonight? We're going to talk about. Do you have a favorite of the four that we're gonNA talk about Jenny. I love my favorite answer right. I see you want my personal rankings right now or going Natalie. Jeremy Tony's Era Natalie. Jeremy Tony Sarah Okay. All right of course finding very with with us here. A man who has already changed his phone wallpaper to season forty photos. Here is Matt. LA- Gory Matt how are you. This is the hottest cast ever and these pictures today just took my breath away and not make one hottest are every single one of them most the medical i these pictures for great. I'm so excited that we got these today. This is going to be a Lotta Fun. Yeah and we have of course with us a usually we get to talk big brother with him but he's here to talk some survivor. Here is Brent. Walkabout Bredhauer you. I N very psyched to be here. It's fun to just relax accent. Take it easy and talk with the survivors. See this is the best time to talk with me before. The show is started inserts to irritate me. I feel like rob. That's just a general rule. Okay I would say that I was GonNa ask you prefer introduced survivor. Have Annie Liebowitz on location to do all of these press photo. Save Look Amazing. I like the actually put in the money for this because like mad said literally everybody almost everybody looks amazing thing change since the the yeah the multiple fits yeah. It was good. It was really good. Okay so all right. So we'll see how long this show goes before Brent Gets Real Shady and tells us who the worst cast photo. We'll see if we get talking about tonight agency to do the critiques of the photo. We'll do that. That's a couple of weeks. We are going to talk about these four players but of course we want to hear from you that we have our youtube open open. We have or on periscope where on facebook we're on twitch we're streaming live and of course many of you guys are listening to the podcast after the fact if you want to join us for one more roundtable roundtable talking about survivor. I will be back on Monday night with one final panel. We're GONNA talk about all the one time players. Who won in the thirties thirties? That's GonNa be Michelle and Adam and nick in Wendell and Ben Coming up on Monday. Nights have been looking for that and then we will have when you're gonNA miss the Bachelor to podcast survivor early early seven. PM Eastern Four PM Pacific. So we that's beyond look for that so good a good reminder finder Haley on Thursday night. We'll have our final circle round table talking about episodes nine ten eleven twelve of the circle coming up tomorrow tomorrow night. That's going to be at nine PM. Eastern six AM civic. If you want to join us live for that. Had A lot of fun on our circle round tables. The last couple of weeks journey made such an impression on Tim I. He made such an impression on me like just so much. It's always better to even just talk to him like on a podcast. Awed cast besides just watching how amazing he is on the circle Andy. No I'm flattery. Gets you a lot of places in the very fact that that Tim would catfish as me. He's my new favorite person to be starting like almost immediately after that. PODCAST I got. He like liked liked a photo of mine from like a couple months ago. So I took a screen shot. And I'm like he's already scouting. Founded fishing says okay all right matt a Lotta stuff dropped today. Can you give us the rundown of everything that survivor fans were able to check out today. From what what I saw we got. Obviously the Casto's came out today. which for me that was like the most anticipated thing that I cannot wait for CASS photos? It's just you want to see these people like updated pictures you want to see them right before they're about to play the game what they looked like what they're wearing and a lot of them are wearing things pretty similar to what they were last time. which isn't a surprise? But we got that We got a at the beginning the interviews we got the candidate interviews of course Spent a good majority of the day watching some of those and we also got I think just a couple of other interviews news Jeff was talking about the twist and whatnot so a pretty fun day and I don't know why I didn't see it coming because the circles and the way. It was a lot of a lot of stuff today kinda snuck up on us. The Canada has twenty interviews up with the cast. They are linked. The they are real real good interviews around seven in eight minutes each so great place to spend some time as we are getting closer and closer to the premiums are BIOS as well but we also learned today. Some more about the Fire Tokens Dalton. Ross had an interview with Jeff probst. And I'm so excited we have this panel here to explain blamed me I get the fire tokens looking me. Fun Attempt to explain the from what I understand. That's a fire token okay. Everybody gets a gets chimp here. All right here's your fire token brand and you get voted out. And you give your fire tokens to somebody else but then people on the edge of extinction that are doing something. They're they're buying stuff for the book but they don't have fire tokens. So how Kim all the way. Yeah how do the people on the edge of extinction do they just have the stuff at them they can win them. They can earn them in different tasks or whatever they're going to keep them busy with. Is that what it is or no. That's like when and you said that rob I like instant flashback. Highway to heaven where like you. Johnson has the stuff you know. It's such a terrible reference like such an eighties reference like anyway. stuffer I admire tokens though. That's that's the way my question is like we're we're going to do this with forty five minute episodes as well like people extinction check ins. Yeah I we're waiting for the surprised that that's not the case. We can only hope that the like. Hey you've checkout. CBS All access for to see how this weeks edge of extinction ended up playing out. And we end up getting more of that on at least where we can see it and have a chance to understand. Because I Haley also then the people on the edge of extinction. They need to fire tokens because they are purchasing things that are going to make it easier for them to get back into the game. I thought at first like Oh that whoever has the most fire tokens on the edge of extinction is going to be who gets back in the game but I guess they're buying then things that will help make it easier for them to win the edge of extinction challenge. I am truly confused right now. We all the reason. Are they doing this. And I think there's a lot of people feel like okay. Well this seems like it's interesting. We don't know how they're going to pull it off. We we don't know necessarily going to feel like they're based on this description they obviously they've already tested edge of extinction on another season but they didn't want to test this on another season. Just leave everything alone but they should have done with season forty. It was just one world. Ed have everyone in one beach and call it a day. Hey how fun. Everyone will see us down so you feel like that. That would have been better. Where then you could have had robin amber interacting and then all that well I think that they want the eastern would vote me out in an instant? If you had a chance also evens ends on. And we'll probably do. He would mean he'd be like Hey. He's an honor to new still be like mad. Have we learned anything anything interesting from any of the people that we're not gonNA talk about here tonight. You I get any interesting tidbits from any of the interviews that you came across today. Everyone has kids. Yeah kids. They're all I'm so sad. I'm going to cry out here. Leave my kids at home and unlike first of all I mean very much appreciate at the mall leaving their kids at home to come out here played this like epoch season. You know if if anyone didn't come out because of that it would have been pretty disappointing as a fan Dan but glad that they all made it out. What did we take away? Leaving your kids to go play. Survivor is not a bug. It's a feature de eh calling the desire to go play survivor until I had kids. And there's a way what nine days at the house. Well and with all of them almost all of them in this situation now it really kind of weakens that story where where it's like. Oh I'm doing this for my family like everyone. Everyone almost everyone on this cast is apparent and has a family to provide for at this point. So it's a popular story. Orient this point with this cast like when when our youngest player is twenty eight Avonlea all like reality casts where like this like the you know the the twenty eight to forty eight range would be a lot better but may main takeaway that involve somebody not being talked about tonight. Is that the one person that I think was brought up the most time. That really needs to look out which you discussed her already. Kim Spradlin's name was in everybody's mouth rattling. Are you buddy. Had the interviewer ESA question about. who was the most impressive winner? Who played the most impressive game? Like if it's not you and of course the name that POPs in everybody's everybody's mind people said. Sandra people said a couple of other names but Kim of course came up a lot. So your fault you have been hyping the ears ruining ruining this for me. The number one kms Dan on earth is she is i. I am on a ladder to European. Is I really think that would be the case. I really thought that her win was far enough away. That people forget how dominating performance such she had so to hear her so she's GonNa stay based on that and there was also a lot of talk from the bigger threats. They all are acknowledging the fact that we're big players we need to stick Dick Together so I do think that there's enough of them that hopefully they will take that and say all right. I need these people around me. Otherwise it's going to be game changers where we all go home early and everybody else has a party i. I know that we're not talking about Tyson tonight. But Tyson's interview was terrible mazing. I don't know why I forget that from time to time. But once he hits that island he's he just has been cracking someone that I've actually like you know like in the previous weeks. Excuse sometimes forgot when I was thinking about people which is like insane because he's one of my favorites and I think that that says something like the fact that there's just so many big names that you can possibly forget. Tyson is just an incredible and his his interview was a must watch so good I want him credit to the Interviewer for et Canada. That was somebody that I was not familiar with. Her name is Sanjay Gupta Patel. I'm Uh not one hundred percent sure that I'm pronouncing that correctly but I do want to give her credit but she did a really great amazing. Yeah great candidate usually sends like Orissa down there but Orissa it was sent down somebody. Who is you could tell? She was a big fan so she did great. Yup Okay I also one of the takeaway that I had was. I haven't got through all the videos yet but I was watching amber. Do her interview. And I thought on the subject of Sandra and I think a lot of US assumed. Okay well Robin Sandra are going to be sort of like joined joined. At the hip went through season. Thirty nine together amber talks about how Like G Verena Robin. I both don't really know how to approach Sandra. And we'd be Kinda kind of happy if she got voted out there so for all of us. Were assuming okay. Well Robin Sandra that is sort of like an unbreakable. Payer don't necessarily assume Brent well I would have definitely assumed that in fact I rob a Boston rob like his tentacles. Get into so many people He has the Kevin Bacon game where you know how many people are related to Boston. Rob On this cast in some way shape or form so I would have thought that amber and Sandra would have worked together. Maybe I'm hoping that maybe once they talk that can change. Because I don't want to see that I would like to see the marched together but that's my preference okay. Sounds like rob scared from spending thirty and thirty nine again thinking. She's she's she does not stop it doesn't it doesn't stop here. I'm thinking it's not really It's probably more like Sandra was. Maybe a little bit of a diva and he was like through there so I I don't know I love you Sandra all right. Let's talk about our people that we're going to get into from the two seasons that we're going to talk with people people from season two thousand eight and season twenty nine and recently. I ranked the ten years of the last decade based on what we're the best years of survivor and number one on my list was two thousand fourteen where we got to see survivor. COGGIN and survivor San Juan del Sur. and to me that was when we first started up Patriot was my first season as a full-time podcast. Or I love everything survivor from twenty fourteen. And so I'm very excited to have this episode. We're talking about all these people that we got to meet at least survivor and case of Natalie. We met her earlier on the amazing race but we met her as the survivor. Ever in twenty four teen okay. But let's start up. Let's talk about Tony First and then Tony will give way to Sarah. And then we'll talk about Jeremy and Natalie second but here comes. Tony and Tony's had such an interesting survivor journey where he had his season in in survivor. Kagi on season. Twenty eight where he was everywhere. And then we had Tony Game Changers. Who is a blip on the radar but amazingly Singley? It's the same distance away from where we met Tony for one night in game changers from now to where Tony played from season. Twenty the eight to thirty four six seasons in between every three years. We get to see Tony pop up and so hopefully this time around. It will be for more than just one night matt. Did you feel like that Tony that you saw today. Seemed like he might be in a different place than Tony. From game. Changers the one hundred percent the way that he described his game plan going into the season was. He said he doesn't have a plan. He said I'm not thinking about any strategies. Last time I came in and I said Oh yeah I'm going underground underground. I'm going to take this spy shack and make it a spy bunker. We were all like Oh that sounds like a lot of fun. He had that strategy with his rocks that he had once. My wife wants my kid. And I'm GONNA lowney right. And he was gonNA those we're going to represent his family and he was going to use that to gain trust. He said it sounds like all that's out the window and he's going in with just a different mindset of. Oh I'm going to see what what's out there and just let it play out because I think for for a Lotta. These people. Expectations are a little bit lower on them. This season. I feel like people aren't going in expecting expecting that. They're going to walk out the winner. I don't know if that's a hot take but I think that it's giving them the ability to loosen up a little bit and Tony is somebody who needs to loosen up Haley. Were you a a fan of Tony. One point now I was even if you may not like him as a dude. It's hard to not have been completely entertained by the game in. He played in his original season. Just because it was so off the wall and I don't think any of us at that time believed that a game like that could win we. We didn't think that going into the finale. We didn't think when you went up against what's his name will woo woo when he went up against. We didn't think Tony was GONNA win. I remember sitting in and you know my friends apartment owed east like on the edge of my seat because we didn't know who is going to win and I feel like we haven't had that exciting finale in a very long in time and every week we tuned in to see like what is only GonNa do next. What is he going to do to get himself out of the trouble he put himself in and it was just one of the most exciting games to watch and I am excited to see him back for that reason because I think when he came back for game changers he came back? His has tony the character. That didn't work for him so I'm hoping he really reverts to like Tony. The Dude and just playing whatever comes to him not having pre-planned anything having ideas going out and Sea island just taking things as they are and I think we could have a lot of fun with Tony Again and I'm hoping that because he didn't and do so well in the last season it can often rob effect and he'll do super well this season. Jenny how much do you feel like that. Tony Change the course of survivor history. With his run in season. Twenty eight in a lot of ways. I feel like Tony is instrumental in saving survivor. I think that Kaga Kiana such a like important season in history and the way that we talk about it. The way that it's revered I think is just it really reignited. At least I can speak for myself my excitement in the show I continued watching watching through the twenty s and as we go into the late twenties he was definitely picking up but that was like the first season. That was just so so incredible in so long I just could not get enough of and obviously this is around the time that you know like you were talking about with the podcast like starting consume media and be more engaged on twitter and stuff like that so I really just feel like how Tony was president on social media during that season as in like I just feel like that was like a turning point in how we consume survivor and I just think that he's such an important part of survivor history. And I'm so so excited that we get him back on our TV's and regardless of how his run is going to be you know be matt edge of extinction returning. But at least that ensures there's no way Tony's going home even if he goes to avoid extinction we're going to get multiple episodes of Tony Lakatos and that is a gift that we've all earned after the last year of survivor. Though I I'm thrilled old. and He seems refreshed like you know Matt kind of touched on it already. He's recognized where he went wrong with his approach and game changers and I think that I've heard a lot of people. Talk about Tony as someone who has no shot in the season because of just how much of an erotic player he is and just the kind of targeted he makes on that. He's playing with these other. You know very three dept players but I think that where this differs from game changers like he was one of three winners and game changers and a very very ah high profile winter that this is a different playing field and I really do think that this is a theme. That came up in some of the interviews that they're they're going to be people that see themselves as the big fish band together to protect each other and kind of go after some of the lesser known threats that that they feel like might need to prove something so. I actually don't feel terrible about Tony's chances in this season and seeing him be like verbalize how he's feeling about the game really made me feel a lot better about it today. Honestly that makes me feel so much better to hear somebody else. Say That because has tales of Tony's incompetence have been greatly exaggerated across the hughniverse. I listened to the survivor. Forty preseason draft that Mike Bloom uh-huh and Allie Lasser Kiva. Boris said and they were like making a joke of Tony. Like not only did he go twenty in that out of twenty any people in that draft but then they have the option to who've Liana had the twentieth draft selection gave her the option to not even selected Tony to select select people who may have caused on the so. We're not even there. So name. Understand exactly put some respect on his name. The thing that people don't understand about Tony Tony and game changers. You forgot the girl that brought into the dance okay because he was an absolute buffoon in game changers and that is not how he played aide on his original season. People remember the Kooky stuff and who they remember it in the Llama talking and all that Yes to this this is Tony talking about Brent Russell praising him holiday aw yeah no but seriously. He had a lot of great tools that he used during calgon because he was he was sympathetic. He was empathetic. It was heartfelt when he needed to. He was serious when he needed to be and most of all for people who think that he was a complete joke. This needs to be dissuaded from that you need to look at the final tribal council performance in Kagi on where he really had to get serious for a second when Tricia came to him and said look you saw on your father's grave to me and I need to know. Was it worth it to you for a million dollars to defile the memory of your father and he starts to give a bunch of excuses and she's like no I I want the truth. And he's like she's like wasn't worth it for a million dollars to soil your father's memory answer. Yes or no and he looks at her without a beat and goes yes. And I'd like to me. I'm like Oh my God like check right now so if he can just bottle a little bit of that on this season season with all of these crazy egos around him. I really feel like he's got a shot to witness thing. Yeah it's so interesting that we've had the two tonys not the clones is. But we've had the Tony who is literally and figuratively unstoppable. Where he has that? He's got a bag of tricks and in that bag of tricks as an idol where you can't even vote him out and then Haley. We saw the very mortal Tony where he gets struck down on the very first night of the show. He ends up being the second BOOT cover. He's he's he's buried himself. Nobody everybody's seeing through one grave do that. He flew through close to the sun. Came all the way back down to Earth but now we have a chance to view this third iteration of Tony. And do you think that he is going to be seen. As the unstoppable force or is he does they mentioned on the draft. podcast is this is this the clown is is the person who they don't take Tony Seriously. I just worry that people will sign him unpredictable and unpredictability. He is a really scary thing and the game survivor. And so so y y play with fire and you know so I could see tony going out for that. The reason pretty early but I'm hoping he humbled himself affirm his last play and can kind of go back to back basics. Jenny can Tony Chill out. Can Tony not be crazy Tony. I mean he seemed chilled out out in his interview. The interview I can watch the game. Changers preseason so relaxed now while he was no he. He seemed like he was ready to go in that in that interview he definitely did seem more relaxed. And and some of the answers he gave gave like really impressed me and just the way that he talked about. You know what he learned from his second time out and how he needs to change his game plan and Just the way that he talks talked about his strategy and what to change. That was all really great but I also know that Tony is the kind of like Co.. Tony can't not Tony. And key was even even talking thing about his family. He was like Oh ask me in a couple. He's like I'm okay right now but like ask me. They say 'cause I'm getting ready for the game like ask me again in a few days and I might be like pent up and I think that that goes for more than just talking about his family. I think it's one of those things where it's easy to say in the pre-game when when you know things haven't gotten real yet that you're going to play a certain way and I I will always have concerns about Tony not not being able to not be extra. But he's saying all the right things and I can see a lot of scenarios where things don't go as poorly for him as you would think they would So I'm just GONNA I'm just GONNA remain hopeful. I really I am holding onto. This'll be a theme of of how I talk about. All four of the The people were discussing tonight that I see a scenario where some of these big names are really you know using each other as as meat shields and I think that even though it was six seasons ago game changers is still going to be president in everyone's minds and they're gonNA say remember that roster and you know no no maybe a little shade on broadened Troy Shannon's Erez the final. The three but people were scratching their heads being like. How did this happen and I think that diet is something? That's going to be still present in the minds of of the season forty Winners that they're not gonNA WANNA get bested by someone that they feel like played a lesser game and so. I really think that we could see someone. Mike Tony Thriving here just really quickly see this. In the Communist section to the Chad is like people are really worried that Tony can't be Tony and I heard my gloom. Say That on the preseason podcasts. He's just him in his blood and I'm like this y'all forgive. He's a cop like this offer his job when he was on target Yom with that even though he was is increased to of course but my point being that he is not him in real live like he can actually be serious serious and for like the first you know fifty percent of that game I feel like he really was serious and taken seriously by his tribe to the point where they looked at in like a leader either. They looked at him like someone who can depend on and trust now I feel like he has it within him to act like that so act more like that like. Here's the thing. The people on the island know what they think. Is the real Tony Tony. Do they perceive that. Certainly but I feel like he can change their mind and say look. I'm an older guy. Now I've Lost Asta separate too and I'm chill now. It's cool and I I think about so many other threats around. Are they really going to worry about Tony. I do think that Tony I could see him coming out of there like like oh I lost I lost step. Did you see game changers. I sit up now. You know and that You know I'm not as good as you. Not as good as these young guys. I definitely see Tony any really heavily pouring on the I suck now card and trying to convince people but when we talk about this idea of meat meet shields. Is that counter. Intuitive that the more that Tony Sorta like walks around with his shoulder slump in like. Oh I sucked now. I'm not as good as I used to be. Like any of these young guys. So is it possible that it does that. Is that the opposite way of the. Tony should be going if people like. We saw Jeremy and his his interviews talking about how. Hey I gotta keep Tony Around. I need guys like that out in front of me so I don't WanNa scare you know that you're a big Tony Guy but I kind of feel like if Tony is used in that way as a meat shield for some of the other bigger players I feel like there's big potential there that that could turn into to him ending up as a goat that people carry to the end that I know that might sound crazy at first but there was a lot of Tony Comparisons when he first played to this guy's somewhat what like Russell was obviously like ashes. Game played out that kind of disappeared a little bit that you saw the separation between the two of them but if there is that kind of like think negative vibe towards Tony you don't feel great about him. You feel a little bit icky after you're done playing a season with him Once you get towards like the halfway point in the game you're not worried about Tony. Immunity munity challenges. Like a lot of these are balancing and holding the thing above your head. Is Tony beating you in that. Probably not so at a certain point I might be looking at someone like Tony. I wouldn't mind sitting next to him at the end because I feel like I'm more likable than him. And I could get the votes There's one challenge win. He won the cover yourself in mud reward and won a slice of pizza or a couple of slices of pizza that he got to eat with trash the only challenge when he talked about wanting in his interview talks about wanting to finally get an individual immunity win. So I mean it's not something I'm Kim if I'm poverty if I'm any of these like likeable people at the final nine with Tony. Why do I WANNA get rid of him at this point Where do I sign on the dotted line for Tony of I can see like I can see the argument? When it's like Tony's in the final three and it's like it's freaking Tony like you let tony when he gets the Finance Rama's out about like you know Tony? A certain way is that the opposite of the way he needs to act like. It's still Tony freaking block. Goes like I mean I feel like he's one of the top people in this cast who you really know like first name like you know who he is he he. He commands respect. Even if you don't respect him on the island I like the idea and the game he played in Tigon. It commands respect to a certain extent or at least a little bit of fear in some of these fear of the unknown. So I have to imagine. Imagine there's no way he's going to end up as a goat Haley. What do you make of this? which would which way do you see this ending up going for Tony? You now as a stereotypical Lieber. I can see it. Going both ways absolutely rinse the astrological so readings for all the people that were do. Okay I could. Oh Gosh I have awesome. Inga citizen you're GONNA do it. I think he'll be pre merged but God it'd be fun. Find Him last longer than that they can find out about edge of extinction early on because that could went this if they. I don't live at Tony on the edge of extinction. It was. I was so I was reading today. That a few of them talked about their interviews. I think they told them this. But they speculate Sandra. Sandra said she's like I said I thought pope said in his interview with Dalton. And please correct me if I'm wrong that they wanted to guarantee the winners a chance. An honest honesty game. Yeah so they went with interesting. I took that to mean that everybody knew about if they're gonNA if they know about it yet in the preseason but the way that it seems like it structured. Where you have fire tokens and you're exchanging fire tokens with people on the edge of extinction? That I think that if they if they do not know yet I think they will know almost immediately as soon as you know. The first person voted out. And this sort of like this opportunity to say this Trading between the people on the edge of extinction and the people that are still in the game. Okay Yep so. We'll see we'll see we'll we'll see we're talking about some friends for Tony. That might be out there. Of course at somebody who we're GONNA talk about in greater detail who this is the the relationship to watch Saraceno is there and so jennings. This is very interesting. I think that we're talking about like. Can Tony stay under control. That can tell me not not fly off the handle that having Sarah out there this does feel like that okay that he has now a partner on the beat to say like Tony. You gotta calm down. You're getting out of control. You get into crazy. Well I mean I've seen lots of people ask who's WHO's going. It'd be Tony's Trish and Trish playing such a huge part in Tony's stellar. Game and cog I and I think that this is what we've we've been waiting for is seeing finally seeing Tony and Sarah actually work together and have it work and I think that this is just a cop us like version. I guess this is two point. Oh since they didn't really get to connect in game changers but I think it's perfect. Perfect timing because Tony's calmed down. He's humble themselves and and Sarah's gotten her win and so there's you know she doesn't have a chip chip on her shoulder anymore because she got to play the game in new she was capable of and game changers God her win and the way that Sarah Talks about Tony Post. Most all of this is you know. She's GonNa love a lot of love for Tony and I think that that love goes right back to to Sarah and I think they know that they're not I don't think either of them are super socially connected in the community. I don't think that either of them are big. Event People I think they kind of play survivor. And then they get back to their normal lives and so. I think that they are smart enough to recognize that. You know they need each other in this game. So I and Sarah's very level headed very calm and you know we might see Sarah finally be Trish 2.0 viewpoint for for Tony and and be the grounding presence for his crazy and I'd love to see it like I think it would be really interesting to see them finally You know the buddy cop storyline that we've really wanted for some of us have. I'm excited for it. Haley but do you feel like while Sarah could be a calming presence for Tony. That actually a bigger target like if Sarah Antonio are not working together that's only might be better off but the fact that if people start seeing the two of them together other is is that a bigger potential problem for One or both of them yes probably but like are. We sure that Sarah here wants to be partnered up with Tony again. Like feel. She's been burned by him up before both. Get the Sarah talk about a game show but it'd be a great point that Sarah era is who's does not ever seem to mind losing an ally here or there that tried to keep her threat level. Lower boy away. Br you see Sarah Throwing Tony under the bus. Oh Yeah I can see Sarah Throwing Tony Tony under the bus ie variety of different people throwing Tony under the bus including in some of the more Alpha guys I mean I know what Jeremy said. It is Canada Interview Matt but I still feel like that of the people there who might be most irritated or threatened by Tony. It would be some of the more Alpha guys if you look back at Kagi on Tony really thrived. It was surrounding himself with women and young guys. So I feel like if Tony can cobbled together. People like that. He might have more of a chance. But like some of these Alpha guys or even some of these more J.. Yeah is true to yeah. He didn't like cliff so he got rid of the two older guys. I mean to me of those people. I felt others people on L. was more of an elder statesman. Compared it's like so you know take take it for what you will. Okay Matt who else our allies for Tony that are in this game. Potentially your guess is as good as mine. There's nobody there's no other natural allies for him. There's nobody else that I think is. This is a clear person that he should work with and he can work with. But I think we've been saying he is somebody. That is the perfect person for anybody else. That needs needs that extra person to go pick up but I don't see any other natural. Well let me throw out. How about Sandra? Now they did not get along in game changers but they both went on that pre jury trump together. And I do feel like that. That's the kind of thing where you you know. I was thinking about this with Sirri and Tom Westman where they both went after each other in heroes vs villains and then the two of them have ponderosa sat there and said we should have worked together. This was crazy. Why were you coming after me and me coming to you that we could have? We could have done something and they spent a lot of time together outside out of the game and I really think that they seemed like they had a mutual respect for each other. Jenny's a possible. Could we see Tony working with Sandra. I thought about it because because for the reasons that you've mentioned but I think that there's just a very big difference in the example that you gave and I just think that there's so much ego there and that they're both the kind of person where it's like if we didn't work if I couldn't work with you before it's not going to happen now. The Queen though I feel that way absolutely McQueen. This WANNA lose to to Sandra like you know what I mean really what he really wants and I I just. I almost think that Tony would be more interested in it. Then Sandra though I see Tony being okay. Okay with it but I could also see Sandra just being like I don't have time for the I in a scenario or it'd be analogy you propose Rob Rian. Tom Both finish third and fourth or fourth and fifth breath on their seasons in. Here's versus villains with game changers. Tony went out in Santa only went out because she got swaps crude so I really feel like sanders. I didn't do nothing wrong. I got rid of them when I was supposed to. And I just got a bad slob when you want you could also say like those two needing to worked worked like looking back. I mean like we should have worked together is totally different. Point in game changers than this season where they were two of the only three winners playing saying in game changers. It's a lot easier to say like we were going to be targets. We should have been keeping each other around as long as possible when then you're playing a season with all winners and there's some really heavy hitters. I just don't think that that argument really applies the same way that it would with game changers and I just cannot i. I cannot see I really loved what Shannon's add the other night about Sandra lining up people. If she can't win she she would rather have these sorts of people be successful in the game. I and I just never see Tony being one of those people so I I think as much as Tony when he might be open to it. I just don't see being mutually felt relationship. Okay Haley people on the board. That are major ops for Tony any that are going to be coming in saying. Hey gotta get Tony out first second as soon as possible. Yeah I'd centers probably a couple starting starting with Amber Danny Denise Kim Natalie Poverty Sandra Sarah Sophie Adam Ben. You Think Jeremy Nick Rob Tony. Tony's trying to get himself out Tyson Komo annual. Wow coming in hot you if it really well survivor. Forty preseason draft podcast. Is this age. It's just a joke. Some true adversaries. I think I think rob doesn't like that guy who's unpredictable. You'll going either way with him and see bus. Rob Not Loving Tony. I definitely can see that I can see Tyson loving Tony as is like a comedic character in front of entertainment on the island. I don't think he ever wants to work with them. Even just don't even sky but I you don't think they're going to match like it's just a lot of you know looking to you. This NAD. Lean telling me. I don't know if those two strong personalities are GonNa go well together. Her she likes Natalie. Does I believe like I. I don't know if they've spent any time in in real life. But when it was rumored that Natalie was going to be on on game changers that I feel like that. She talked about that. I remember in doing again. These are people that play back to back and that she gave Tony a a lot of credit that she had seen Tony Season. Right before they played in San Juan del Sur. Difference between giving somebody credit and like playing the game with them especially when Natalie wants to be Queen B. They're both like blue collar. People injures action. There's a lot of a lot of northeast northeast New Jersey. That was one thing I took away from. I listen to Natalie the Natalie's interview with during game changers. And she talked about how she was almost on the season and how she would have played and we'll talk about this more but she did know that I would. I've been working with Tony and Sandra like together. The you know the big targets and and go after the smaller people but again saint point. I just made that is a totally different story. In game changers changes when those three are in her mind she she didn't mention JT. At all. I still feel like bill. I take your point but I still feel like there's enough enough chafe in this. Cast that even though they are winners. There's plenty of people here who we don't really care a lot about. Nobody really cares a lot about but only somebody. What do you care about and Sandra as somebody care about and I feel like? They should know that they should work together. I I agree and I see. They know they can work together group but sure but can they work together. Can they just push everything aside. Once they're on the island or will they get each other more on Tony. Tony comes with a you. You Know Olive Branch. Yeah if you can turn annoyed by Sandra conflict like that. Yeah I in San Rafael Tony. Let's talk are look. Let's give a ballpark where we think the highest on Tony on on the panel. At least from Kagi on you feel like that. Tony has a show emerge as a shot and I feel like he clearly makes the merge my opinion on. Yes actually Matt you. You almost felt like that. Maybe he could go far but not win. That's I don't think Tony can win again. I think we call his win like like. He was the Unicorn and I feel like that's for a reason. I don't think it can happen again but I do think he can stick around longer this time than he did last time and definitely hoping for that but our adult yeah. I just don't think he can win again. I don't okay. Haley sounds like you think he's out very early. E E yeah. I think so. I would love to be wrong Haley. I feel like you're forgetting like what she said. And all stars about Richard Hatch like no one wants to see the king dead. I did like that would be fun. Here there's a lot of kings and there's a lot of all-stars feels like everyone here is like I still feel like Tony. Commands commands that respect with them. Like even that'd be a respect like the way we think of it but at least a certain level of fear like I wanna give him his due. We'll see maybe it's just thinking on my part in terms of giving him his. Do I do think that when we look at sort of like well. We'll talk about on Monday night. The you know the people that are like the people that played after Tony and what they think of him. I do think again like when we're talking about like the atoms Knicks and maybe even like Wendell did they have a reverence for Tony. Would they be not so quick to you. Vote Tonioli gotta see what this guy is going to do next. I want to keep him around. I can just see Adam like you know I feel like Adam is really the kind of person then that you know. He's he's a fan boy of the game even though he's a he's one you know he has just as much right to be there as anyone else. I still think that there's Oh something about him where he's going to be like Yo. I'm playing with frequent. Tony Vodkas like this is incredible and I I think that it's you know. Say what you will about Tony. Whether he's is your favorite person or not or you know his game play was your favorite. He is a character and he is you know. I think that there will be people that get wrapped up in just the presence of him and I can see someone like like an atom possibly wanting to work with them just. Because it's like I've always wanted to like work with with this person and you know all figure out how I beat him later but for now I want this guy I want this guy in my corner and so I definitely think that he he could have more friends than people are thinking that he would going Wendell. Nick Ben Those are I feel like ideal allies for Tony at this point and he just needs used to pray at a couple of them are on his tribe. Yeah so I really came into this feeling like where I was. Where Hailey was like? Tony's probably the first one out at least there's the edge of extinction but I have to say I'm starting to warm to Tony. I don't think he can win. I don't think people are going to do. Let him get that far. But I do feel like that people will say like okay. Well as long as Tony is around. I'm not going to be in trouble. But then eventually when he shows up with an idol or he's out hunting eventually were gone for like. Where's Tony he is he hiding in the bushes again? I think eventually that he can't not be Tony. And I think that's GONNA eventually be too big of a threat and they're going to send him out out of the game but I do think he's he'll be out for a while is impossible to forget about it. You just there will never be a point where you forget that Tony. They're like you will with maybe a bunch of the others which I feel the life works in favor of other people who have really big egos and are scared to death that they are going to be betrayed by somebody keeping somebody around my Tony is ideal for them. Yeah it's it's interesting because when Tony went to go play in survivor game. Changers the people on game changes they had not seen millennials versus gen-x aren't they. I had not seen that much of it where Adam fell apart. Atoms game was. I'm going to keep the threats out in front of me. Jeremy played that way in Cambodia. But I don't know how much that was. Really talked talked about yet in terms of what his strategy was and I do think that as the thirties has gone along. More and more people have played with this idea of. I need to keep the threats out in front and now maybe that strategy has caught up to a point where it Tony can actually benefit from this idea of being that person who other players put out in front of them so that they end up being able to hide behind some of these bigger targets in the game. So we'll see if Tony can benefit from the bullets. One one last thing real quick one of the other things that he said in his interview was that he isn't all about like the whole like basically calling out the people who go on survivor these days and try to be influencers about. I don't know but it felt pretty targeted at the newer players like the social media. I know Michelle Wendell like people who are popping. Clean up all over the place kind of thing so I know he's going to be working closely with the new players. I feel like he might just gravitate. We're contestants where we're not celebrities. Leeza sorry gone and saying Geeta who who you talking about. He's like go on Youtube. uh-huh Youtube thing. I think he's talking about your on the Castro the saying about people that are on the cast. I value the saint survivors in general. Yeah he might not have a little. Maybe I felt like he was maybe talking a little bit the people who just pop up at all these events and celebrities because they go everywhere people want to take pictures with them Kinda thing. Now he's talking about Adam Sandra and rob he also said that One of his pet peeves was a know it all and I've always been nothing but love for Tony. He was talking about Stephen Shaded fish bag back. Yeah Nick mentioned no at all so there was a few mentions no at all so they are annoying right. You might need to rebrand MRS getting a little too e Jenny before we can move on from Tony. We you promise that you would give us the astrological so Tony. How does it looking for Tony Okay? Well I'm not going to get into it and going to piss off a ton of people because I know that some of these. Some people don't like astrology. Tony so it's more complicated than just your son sign. Tony is a virgo virgos. These are very detail oriented they can. They're they're kind of seen as like the anal sign your. They're very organized organized. They have they have the KEANAE. They're they're kind of like the MOM or the dad sign like they're they're in charge. I think that him him as a police officer as a virgo makes a lot a lot of sense the way that he was able to find idols that makes a lot of sense as virgo. Just they're they're very very type A. and like to do things their way. They're the people that are standing in the corner watching you do something and be like you're doing wrong anyway. So that's what Tony Tony's definitely got some and some other wild stuff happening in his chart. Four Shirks Tony Is. I believe his birthday might be September tenth or something around then. He's Virgo. The colts birthday. I was GONNA say yeah. He's right around call very similar. 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Great deal with butcher box okay. Let's talk about Tony's partner in crime. Maybe let's talk about more about set. Sarah Sarah Brent. She came off winning in game. Changers and Sarah is such an interesting person to talk about. I think because she came into game changers super low profile. No she was one of the people that's like an and who else does Sara's on the cast. Nobody was concerned about her. She was able to stay under the radar made big moves left and right switching back inside a back and forth voting out her allies taking the legacy advantage from Sierra. Don Thomas Voting out all these different people that she worked with. She gives her wedding ring to or show. Takes culpepper wedding ring yeah. She gave her bracelet. It was like a bicycle spoke about it. And then here she is. She Wins Brent. Are People going to lose lose. Track of Serafina again or is her profile. Too Big after coming off of game changers. No profiles definitely not sue big now with the caliber of players players that we have on this season it. There's just no way it can be. I think that is so far. More likely that they forget about her and yes she played an amazing game on game game changers but a lot of people don't really like that season and it's sort of like yeah. She won but she was up there against Troyes in culpeper so I really don't think they're we're going to give her a lot of credit even though they probably shouldn't I honestly feel like her fate in this game is polar opposites either. She's going to be one of the first boots it because she doesn't really have any ties with anybody and evil. See Her as expendable and not to worry about. Plus they think it'll make the fans happy which I actually really do think as a little part of some of their thinking or she will slide through to the merge and make her way to the end. I actually don't think she he can win again mainly because I feel like she somewhat unlikable to some of the people in this gas but we'll see but nevertheless I still feel like that. Her game is is It's a high risk reward at this point. That's how I feel was Sarah. Okay Haley what do you make of Sarah. And her threat level coming in I feel like her threat. Level is higher than her perceived threat level. Don't think anyone's going to be thinking of going into the game. I don't think anyone's GonNa be thinking about Out Her until after the merge. She's GonNa put her head down to work at Camp She's GonNa do okay in challenges and she's GonNa be like not so oh great socially that she scares people but on bad socially like it. Thank People Forget. That people like Sarah engage. That's why she got so far and I remember it gets a good. That's a good point if we dive into that a little bit more because that is Sarah. I know that Brent's made the the point that they're saying that people don't like Sarah but I actually don't think that's the case that she does not come across on TV as somebody that you think of when you watch him on TV like Kim seems very likeable and you understand and then everybody else has also likes her but with Sarah that everybody that played with her in Game Changers and I get to talk to all these people when they come off the game they also talked about how like Oh. I thought Sarah My friend Sarah and I was really close. Everybody had these great relationships with Sarah. There's almost nobody came off the show and it was like I hated Sarah of the whole time Sarah the worst but then it doesn't necessarily translate to the TV show Haley. I completely agree. I don't think anyone's going to consider her an exciting character. Especially when Tony Onscreen next to our pit any of the people she burning game changers. They're not here to tell the other people that they got earnt. I think Tony Burned Sarah. Before she could burn him and so He's not he's not super afraid of her or anything. I don't think anyone's going to be afraid of her. I think there are a lot of bigger targets on the board that what are GonNa go before you even think of her. I could absolutely see her ending up in the final three again and people going like Dr Been In regards Jenny. Do you have thoughts on Sarah. Three point zero. She played an incredibly impressive game in game. Changers there's and I do think that people just really don't like that season and that is is has an impact on how her win is viewed. Because I think people like INA vacuum I think it's it just. She just played such an impressive game and she is a very worthy winner. And so I think that the fact that that is not a well regarded and season in general helps down play her threat even though her actual game was very impressive. The problem is is there are various people in this cast that I feel like I have something to them and the way that they play the game that they put them in any season in with any people around them and they they can do well playing that same sort of style of game. Sarah Sarah Second game was so all reliance on how she was perceived going into that into that second game and people not really getting to see what she was capable of in Cagayan and and being bested by Tony and so much of her game relied upon everyone feeling like they like they were her number one and I think that once you see someone play that way the jigs kind of up and I just think that like she's not playing with any chumps like these are all winners. They obviously have done their homework. And I think that no one is going to get fooled thinking all. I'm like you know Sarah and I are talking about this and I. I really feel like she's like my best friend out here because that's exactly how she got the win in Game Changer. So I just I do worry that this is the kind of. She can't replicate hate that same game so she's going to have to do something different if she wants to go far and I I as much as I do feel like. She has excellent game potential attention in her. I just don't know that she can pull it off again and that she might be one of these people that gets picked off early. I was GONNA suggest suggest mentioned that. It's interesting about Sarah being seen as somebody who's a backstabber. Because that's what she had to do so much in game changers to be able to win and it was a incredible win that she had but there were so many people that were close to her. Especially the one that stands out. I think the most is the Sierra Don Thomas with legacy advantage advantage of okay. I'm going to that. She told me she'd give me the legacy advantage. So now I have to get her voted out so many of these winners didn't have to Backstab ax tab to get the win that so many of the winners were able to sort of get to the the the finals and be able to have done it where it wasn't like that they took out all these other people that were their friends along the way that do you think that reputation is something that you could shake in a season like this i. I don't see Sarah playing this season. Anything like she played the last one. I think the version of Sarah from John is way more likely to come out here where she kind kind of maybe feels like she has a grasp on the game and it kind of completely falls apart once she finds hurt because I do see her as somebody who could go either way. I think she could go with the new players or she could try to go with the old players and she might find herself in that middle position again where she thinks that she is the swing. Vote ends up. Not being swing vote. There was a little bit of talk about how I think I know. Poverty definitely mentioned it but if there are any of these other winners out there who haven't been paying full attention to the most recent seasons but maybe you're catching up a little bit or refreshing themselves on some of the recent stuff especially because they want to see you know some of the recent twists and whatnot and they see Sarah. They're going in with. This is one of the best players of this new crop op players You know she dominated season super impressive. I do think that she could very easily stand out amongst that group and I also have to agree. I don't remember who specifically might have said it but I do not find Sarah very likable. I think she in her pre game interview that the The one that we got today from Canada she if there are some people I saw after Tommy's recent interview with you talking about Tommy's really high in his game high legs What he did out there? Sarah checkout her interview. She was very Tony. She was very high on the game that she played. I was one of the best winners. I played a masterful game. And if she brings that energy with her to the island. It's GONNA be off putting to everybody else on top of the fact that she's just not somebody that is your top pick to work with so there are signs all over the place that I feel like there are going to people like poverty or like some of the players who were like you know what there's nothing that's going to happen here with me and Sarah. It's she's a good person to get out Brian. I agree with that actually to US something I keep it real with you guys and so something to think about that. People on the island might be thinking about as well. Is that Sara. Lee is a someone Vogel supporter of of the President of the United States. And I know that there are people on the island who care about that sort of thing and I'm not projecting my thoughts onto the island about what I want to happen but I certainly think it's not outside the realm of possibility that they will look at her and go you know what. Let's just get rid of her. I I I understand that That why the like people's Politics that I think it's more likely to like the people that share her political views would be more likely to Work with her but in terms of that as well in terms of voting somebody out because of that that people are going to do. What's best for them? I don't think that people are going to vote this in because I agree and for me. They're like no politics Brent. I'm not trying to bring politics into it. I'm just keeping it real with you guys but then I feel like we're in a really polarizing environment right now. There may be people on the island with an ax to grind. That's what I'm saying and I'm giving you the teat. Yeah I said she's unlikable. There's a lot of reasons. Why if you go back to Alaska? I mean. She won a season during the trump presidency. So it didn't seem to hold her back last time different Sarah than they didn't really know much about her. But let's see anybody's politics are GonNa the have a bearing I would. I'd be very surprised if any of the players talk a lot about politics on the island because it seems like a good good way to lose half your allies at any given point very true. Yeah I I think one thing about Sarah. Is that There's something about her tone of voice where it's like she is she's so monotone that. I think that that actually makes is her sound less like I know sorry monotone people but like something about her her tone of voice that lake. I find that it just makes her sound sound doll and like maybe less interested in what you're saying but it seems that her one on one relationships that like she made is where she really flake flourishes so I feel he likes. She doesn't pop out in group settings. I just feel like she's like but she's very there's something about how she connects one on one with people and that's where she did work in game changers But I think that it. You know it's not an underreported story. That that is how she she got where she did. In engaged and the fact that people are already pulling that out the fact that poverty is you know acknowledging that she's a dangerous person. I I agree with Matt that I do see her as someone because I mentioned this earlier in the podcast that she's not one of these people that I see as really well connected in the community. She she played with Tony. But you know yes. She played with Sandra. But I don't see her coming into this season with a lot of connections and I just don't think that she's going to be able to work her charms in the same way that she did in game changers and that she will you know she does have. It is very likely that she's seen as someone who's expendable especially if someone's like I want to weaken Tony. But I want him around because he is a lightning rod. And you know as long as Tony's around that's attention taken away from me but you know he has Sarah and as long as he has Sarah that someone that sneaks along. I want to get rid of that person and I could definitely see a fate atfer Sarah Haley. It was such a big part of her narrative where that it wasn't just that she won but it was like she was like everybody knows it by hard like she. She was the police officer. She played like a police officer the first time but she played like in criminal the second time and I just think that when you're the baked in narrative it's really hard to shake that sure but I think a lot of these people have have faked at narrative. The Sutter GonNa follow the long. They're so nice so they're so kid there's still people are still saying that poverty is GonNa Flirt and she's been married to a child the andersons out here life. Will you know apartment plays the game. She's GonNa flip guys out here with Jeff and get some some extra fire token obviously my keep keep up a little bit guys. Tough some of the things I'll say is that she is a great athlete. And if you're looking for somebody to pin the blame on That you lose a challenge. Early on Brent. She's not going to be voted out for not being able to help the tribe in the challenges certainly true and I as I said I think she's definitely a possibility for an early boot. But not for the reasons that you might think I just think that she could be unlikable or seen as expendable by people. As Jenny noted she doesn't have a lot of connections with the people who are currently playing a game this season so I feel like there's a real chance that they might look around and go who who's here that nobody cares about. Okay Sarah I wanNA push back a just a little bit more on the Sarah is unlikable because I just think that she's just doesn't pop on television Zhen but I just feel like that the coming at a game changers that everybody there felt like that she was likeable and I felt like that the people that are out there with are going to really feel that way about her or again as Jenny was saying I think she's very good. Establishing these one on one connections and there are so many parents out there. She has a young kid also so I think she's GonNa have no problem. I'm getting along with people but I think the threat level of that previous game. I think is going to loom so large people's minds. I want to go back to with talking about with Tony and Sarah and in my head. If they're together that unthinking or Tony is probably going to get voted out. If you'RE GONNA split up a Tony and Sarah met. Is it possible. Do I have this backwards. Is it possible that hey we got to break up. Tony and Sarah and Sarah is the one that gets voted out. Yeah definitely impossible. Because there's so many people that want to keep Tony around possibly as a meat shield and legacy. I'm already saying that. I don't feel great about Sarah's chances to go far I think people are gonNA WANNA out early if they're looking to break that up. I definitely can see Sarah being the one that goes goes I the other thing too is as I said. People don't really care for game changers that much and I really don't think think we're talking when equity here. I really don't think that these winners that are on this island going to want Saraceno Winter Games dollar season. There's like no chance of it. There's a there's a handful of people that have on that list of like this is the season of seasons. They're going to be crowning the Champion of champions. And there's like maybe four or five names that I'm like I don't see it I really don't but I think you guys are thinking about visit like you know from the perspective of fans and thinking about the history of the show I mean right. Nobody knows better than you. That on the edge of Extinction Aubrey David Wright and others voted for the person that was on the edge of extinction to win. So here's the thing in terms of the talk a lot about the integrity the game and how people who are like that. They just thought it was a whole different game. I feel like. We're like even though edgy extinction is in play. I feel like the people on the island. saw what happens happens with extinction and there's no chance of that happening again. Vote for like well. You know. I voted for Sarah but she she one game changers and that's not really regarded as a season that I want to represent. I what I'm saying earlier that there's there's not any clear goats in this season so when you get to the final three it may they come down to just a likeability factor. Besides the game plan I think is going to be somebody like more. I also think that and I know that final three has been here since the beginning of time. It seems like survivor. But I feel like Sarah could win a final two. I actually do feel like she could win. A final next to somebody else who was more unlikeable than her but being final three. Let's the you people on the jury sort of take from one be above and I don't feel like in a season like this that that really works for her Sarah last woman winner of the show. Jenny what if she pulls it off employment winning the weird stat that I never ever considered being a possibility. I mean as much as I want to defend. Sarah's a winner in terms the weather however you feel about her personally and how however you feel about that that season I will. I will say that but listen to how everyone talked about. Sarah look further than how Andrea Belkin talks. I think that that is one of the most like Andrew seems just like one of the most nice friendly liked people in the community and the way that she felt about. Sarah I think that means something Sirri three like so many like us another thing though remembered there was a big moment on game. Changers brought them together like that. Core people the Zeka the tribal council. Sarah broke down huge emotional moment where she talked about. I'm a person who doesn't have Zeke's in my life. And I met Zeke and I love Zeke and that try try that one night brought them all so close together. We're going to hope we don't have anything like that this season so I don't know if that kind of bonding will happen but it was really solidified. Some some relationships in that season but I just from everything that I've heard about how people talked about Sarah from that season. You know those relationships had started before before like before that I I do agree that they really got could have gotten strengthened by by what they went through together but like I said already I really think that there is something about her. That doesn't like like you said rob doesn't doesn't pop onscreen. I talk about her tone of voice she there is something about her. That is very likeable people but I think that again. Everyone knows that that was her game. And and I don't think that these people are going to be fooled into thinking that they are Sarah's girl or a guy or whoever ever on this season and so despite it being an impressive run for her in Game Changers. I just don't know what she does to eaten in this particular season. Another big ally for Sarah is Denise Stapley. We talked about this the other night when we did the denise preview but both both coming from the same place in Iowa That could be. I don't know how many people know that connection. I think that that could be a a big one for Sarah Cedar rapids is also an answer on jeopardy last night he wasn't it. Yeah I think denise an in Sarah could be on good terms but I'll race you Danny and Sarah. I think those are two people can get along super well. Because I don't think because because neither of them have a lot of connections outside the survivor around. Like have you ever seen Danny a survivor of that. I've never never met Danny in my life so I could see her looking for somebody who's similar to her from the Midwest maybe share some of the same values in family family. Whatever I think they get along super well and Danny can give Sarah the advice like an old school player? Harry and Sarah can kind of bringing that new school thing going. I think they could be an interesting. Duo Tokens to Nazi that. Where are you really just the two of them together like to spend five? Hi Danielle Right. Do I just because I like her and I. I haven't seen her since I was twenty or something. What does that even mean math? Okay anybody else gunning for Sarah Seena that we can see here on the board. I mean do do even the new players one worker taste bad so I think they don't forget that she wants season thirty four so I feel like that you know then Adam super friendly. I'm sure he was very supportive to her way and reached out during her win. Then Ben comes right and I'm sure they're from you know now it's not not exactly the same the same place but you know similar part of the country and then Wendell I'm sure was greeted warmly by the you know as a new winner. Nick I think by Sarah so I think that she has some connections just based the proximity of when she played to some of these some of these other people. I just think that they're all closer to each other than with her. You know the people that are left to be discussed next week. I think that you know how to like adamant. Wendell are just so you know for newer or winners. I just think are so much better connected with some of these people then Sarah so I just don't think that they need their name but I think the threat from Sarah. It is coming from the past of when she played as opposed to coming from the future of when she played if that makes sense. Yeah like I felt like that. It's coming more from the people we mentioned you know the parties and Kim's and the people that are more like the when we go further back in time to the people that are like I watched her season and I don't. I don't trust her that I feel like that. The people that play this could be my own personal experience but I feel like the people that played before you watch you with a different I than the people that played after you. That might have a little more like give you the benefit of the doubt and want to work with you as opposed to the people that played before for you. It's like okay. I know your game. I know you're up to okay. Leno argument there Jenny. We we got to star sign. Okay Sarah I so I have to report that. I had like a major to the question everything I knew today because I have spent the last couple of years thinking that Sara was a fellow. Libra like Rob Haley myself. And I I I keep a spreadsheet and I only got my data from like wicky or whatever and sometimes things change and at some one point. Sarah's birthday on the Internet at least I N had a recorded as a Lebron spreadsheet for some time. I don't know when that changed. Apparently apparently she is a cancer which makes a lot of sense. Cancers are very like WHO said that Brent sprawl as a funny joke but cancers are are very sensual emotional people and so it makes sense to me that Sarah Thrives in the one on one connections? I can definitely see that from a cancer. You know the emotional way that she used the bracelet and the ring and like these these physical pieces with her relationships the way that she used that That emotion connection home cancers are very like homebody type. People makes a Lotta sense why she's not very big in the community anyway so I because she was a libra until today she is a cancer. Or maybe it's all wrong or maybe you ought all right so does that figure a good way for her on the most. Winning element of survivors is earth. So the most winning sign is capricorn. Cabraha corns represent the hot have the highest representation of winners and then Earth signs in general which is `Capricorno upper corn. Taurus Virgo have the biggest representation so watered doesn't cancer is a water sign. They're not super high up in the winners. There's so I I don't know what that means for her. It means she's good at making emotional connections whether that is going to be the key to success in this particular season. I'm not sure that's where Sara prediction you know. Your Leo Are Sorry Yes Sarah Prediction Action. I think she's going to at least make merge if further Sarah at at the merge and watch out for somebody who can win those challenges that are the in hey standing standing one place that she went a lot of challenges in the in Game Changers. I'm trying to remember. It's never won an individual immunity actually interesting as a a member of the barrage of his. She was winning she. She won a lot of tribal immunity. Issues didn't go to a lot of early. Tribals the game changers but okay Jenny. WH- what's your prediction on Sarah. I think she's pre-marriage pre merge. It's tough to shake that target when it's on your back back Matt Pre Merge Remar andbranch. What do you think three three pre merge in the framers flurry? What am I while so you were with us so you don't sit? There was some senator because it went like pre merge free rich pre merge so yeah ultimately the people in the Chad that are bitching about astrology. Frogs GonNa ask me what people signs are going but I feel like prepare. It's just something I tell you. What color their hair is to address? Fun and Kitschy and is interesting. Just segue to they come down they get easy everybody. It's GonNa be okay okay. I'll say I feel like that. The Arrow is pointing down on sour. Not because she's she's not good but just because. I think that people are going to be way to focus. I really felt like I was listening to Sarah's interview today and just felt like that she's like going in hoping hoping that people are GonNa Forget about their previous game and I just I can't help but feel like yeah. I kind of felt that way to survivor all stars. You forget They they remember the stuff and it's just so sorry into trust you it's tough. It's tough to win that back. They might like you but they might not trust you. Yeah she's she's like guns blazing into the season for some reason. I don't know why she feels like she's got this loud energy about her. I don't know why she is coming in with this but I don't let's go. Let's hope for her sake that that was just like indicative of that interview specifically and not how she's GonNa play the overall game because she has to know that's not a winning formula. Maybe it's like some sort of freaky Friday thing with her and Tony. Tony is like really relaxing. Rocked up all of his like neurotic energy. Ge or something. I don't know okay all right. Let's talk about Natalie next Jeremy because then we can talk about season twenty nine and then Jeremy also then has a The season thirty one stuff to add onto that. But let's talk about Natalie Haley. Were you a twenty fan from the amazing amazing race. I wasn't and I win spoiler alert when they went out first all-stars I was like yeah. I don't have to deal with them all. It was also in two thousand fourteen. I believe that that was in the in the spring of the year that she ended up winning survivor. I think that was all in the same year. Yeah I don't think I'm alone in that. I think a lot of people were anti twenty about around then and then all of a sudden she comes in and play survivor and I don't think anyone's hot either. The twins are they going to do well and survivor. And then so when you went out to early I think we're all in Guam early pretty close behind when she pulled out a lot of really excellent and cool and fund moves in the later half the season and when she wanted it was such a satisfying win. Like we haven't seen what feels like a very satisfying win in a while. I think like you said twenty. Four team is really a great time to be a survivor fan. Great Year the Natalie Anderson run in survivor of same line. They'll sir was really so interesting years she starts off with this. She loses her twin sister in the very first episode. But then Sir and Jeremy Are you know Dr. Jeremy Loses Dow early on and they're a tight allies and they end up they're separated at the swap but then and they ended up coming back together at the merge. And there's a whole you know the looks like Jeremy is going to go out but then it's actually Josh that goes out and he's and everything thing is looking good and then Jeremy gets blindsided and Natalie ends up going on. I have to get revenge. I have to let these people think I'm working with them. And it is is a slow and methodical revenge that she takes on John Mesh and Jacqueline and Alec Christie all the Co conspirators along the way to ultimately win and now she's back Matt. I am so excited for this. Natalie is the reason I'm on this podcast. She's he's the one that I wrote down that I was most excited to talk about to see here. I just said about how you know. That was such a feel good win. I I loved that season at the time. I still love it so much to this day. Just watching it as it played out. And you had those two big players. Josh and Jeremy and one of those guys are GonNa win and they both go and you're like Oh wait. They're not GONNA win. So who is going to win is John is it missy and then it starts to become a little bit more clear over time that Natalie is somebody playing a game and going into the season in as somebody who watched the amazing race like you're not expecting that the twenty s are GonNa do well. You're not expecting much from them. You just you know they were fun characters on the amazing race. They brought him over to survivor. Make sense and but then as the game starts to get towards the end and you see all these great moves that she's making how she's thinking like she's playing like a strong player and it just. It's it's impressive and it's fun and just by the time. The finale comes around and you see the entire jury just applauding her and giving her all this respect and every time that she explains a move that you just made or something that happened. They're all smiling because they're like. Damn how did we let that one like. How did we let that get by US? It's just so much fun all around in the somebody who just loves Natalie so much. I'm so excited that she's back I don't I don't even part of me doesn't even want to imagine how she's GonNa do this season because the memories of her are so good and I'm just afraid that they might not you know I don't want anything bad to happen to her. Yeah but it's like sport though Matt like you know Janet Lynch figure skating that everything is sport nothing can be taken away from you. Like we will always have have that. Even if she falls on her face this season and we will always memory Astro said the thing the Iowa really appreciate about Natalie is the fact that she is an emotional person like I am wears her heart on her sleeve but she was able to keep her emotions in check check when she got done so dirty by John and Jacqueline people. Forget maybe you guys. Don't forget but fans forget that Jeremy and Natalie gave up their reward on ice I yacht to John and Jacqueline to thank them for their votes off the previous tribal council and then John and Jacqueline decide to payback Natalie. And Jeremy By blindsiding Jeremy at that famous tribal council where he went out and couldn't believe it and then like rob says. It's literally like it's like A. Ah Dexter where like the Anti Hero. Although in this case now is definitely hero was like working behind the scenes to like kill all the People Kubat trade her and had done her wrong and it was so great to watch so I I honestly of all I mean I know there's been a bunch of guys. Had some interesting in game runs survivor but from my money like I'm with Matt on this one. Nobody touches the final nine stress that Natalie had from losing her ally. I in Jeremy obviously losing her own sister in the beginning of the game and like calling out rocker like she played from the front. She didn't play in the bag. She played from the front and still got it on so I I was so here for her when and I really annoys me that was a blood versus water season because she should have won unanimously. Like even John Mesh is like you no not in his head when Natalie is explaining her moves but obviously he can't vote for her. Because you know Jacqueline is up there or something for your petty against Missy. I don't even know that was so bizarre. One of my favorite favorite moments. Was You know Natalie you had the idol and Jacqueline had been kinda screwed over by missing Baylor and you know She had come up with this plan. And missy and Baylor Thought Natalie was on their side and and she gets up and takes her adults adjust and then she turns around. Jacqueline says itchy. Vote for who I told you to vote for and Jacqueline says he gas and then she plays the idol for Jacqueline and then one of Baylor. I don't remember credible edible tribal council. It was a great move because not only did it get her to where she wanted to go by. The jury saw her making that move which I think was incredibly important to her game. You know the jury doesn't see a lot of these moves because they're back on the beach but this was a move that was like hey I told you to vote for her. So did you do it. Yes I convinced you to do that. Well then I'm going to save you a two for one move. It really is and it was the people think like oh she had an idol. She played Jacqueline but she knew everyone was voting for Keith. Like that wasn't without risk like there was a way for Jacqueline to technically betray her by also voting for Natalie early in causing a time. Maybe they would have sit natalie home. Because she didn't play the idol herself like there were ways for that to go wrong and she still had gone is to go for it and give yourself in position position to get the win and I absolutely loved it. I mean you'd be to find somebody orange community you didn't love that tribal council and everything that it began. So I'm feeling ingrate about Natalie but I'm also worried that some of her more interesting and de Television worthy moves might be remembered well by people on this cast. Ask Nervous about that I. I don't know that this is such a weird season in terms of talking about it where I feel. It is not a celebrated season at all all like Jeremy Ends up getting Tana credit for second chances when he comes back and he wins but I feel like that for whatever reason and I always theorized that it was because Natalie was somebody who came from the amazing race and that they weren't like proud of her as a winner because she was somebody that was from one of the other. CBS shows that came on although they really love BC cowboy when he came through so bizarre but they never even at the reunion. They couldn't wait to start talking talking about. Hey we gotta talk about what's coming up survivor worlds apart like Do we have any lawyers in the audience they were they went right into you. Hyping the neck within Matt Rob. It's just boggling to me that I don't understand Natalie was one of their best winners ever. They didn't create her and then she was funny to you like remember when she was like holding the thing she likes tried to spit but then the spirit was all over. The West Nail is after appropes about the Bacon. And that's a whole really great challenge. Suchart celebrated winner. I think that she came close to coming back. Act For game changers as Jenny. Br brought up earlier in the show. I'm not sure how many people really know a ton about Natalie Anderson met. Do you feel like like that. People are looking at her like. Oh we gotta watch out for her. I think that maybe as a challenge beast. I think they're saying like Oh we got to watch out for her. She'll win and all the challenges but I don't think that people really look at her as she is an elite survivor winner. I think for the majority of them I agree. I don't don't think that most people will look at her that way and that should do well for her but I do think there are some people who just specifically because I just listened to Sophie's interview. Sophie somebody who calls out You know I was just kind of like watching some seasons before we left in like Natalie Anderson. That's a smart cookie out there like she knows what she's doing. You don't think back at that season and things like Natalie was really. She was on top of all of those moves that she made towards the end of the game. So you know I'm sure. So if he's not the only one but she is the only one who at least mentioned it in that interview. I I have to hope that people aren't thinking like that because they are surrounded by such like even bigger sharks than the Natalie. It's you know there's a lot of players who are remembered for their great gameplay of course in the season I don't know if Natalie is going to be the top of the list but she's definitely up there. I feel like that. That's not a great relationship. I feel like that So selfie Natalie Anderson. I don't see them getting along. I'm sure Tim not not not only two of them and they socially I used to ask. So how are you going to be in the wine and cheese. Now that you're you're you're remember it's like oh no they don't invite they. Don't invite me to this stuff. I just feel like that. She's at home with more of like the blue collar. beer-drinking fell in layers. Five handle. I totally agree with that. I feel like the people that she's more likely to work with would be like Benji. Bergen Nick Wilson and Wendell like these are the people I I feel like that Natalie could work with windows necessarily blue-collar but I feel like he could. Yeah well that's true. Yeah he's always so swapped always like feel like he's a little bit more metro. Hey the point being that I feel like she has a lot of options to choose about who she wants to work with the thing that I think a lot of people don't really understand understand about Natalie is that it has rob notes. It was really methodical. Like this is what I'm currently having a problem on in sequester that people aren't thinking ahead and now he was the queen of thinking in terms of like realizing that she needed to get rid of Alec and fake and so that John didn't have power over her to move forward into the final six and then she needed to get rid of John John at the final six and how to do that. She went on that as I remember ended in the chat the Spaghetti reward with John and Jacqueline where she smooths them the whole day right before she was going to blindside them and then onto keeping Jacqueline in the game at the final five to make sure that she wouldn't be voted off by missing Baylor at the final four. Everything had a plan with Natalie. It was such a great season it's up. It's honestly mystifying. mystifying to me the CBS considering they don't have tons of women and also don't have tons of women of color as winners for them to celebrate her more. But let's hope she fixes that this time signed by winning this season and it's not looking like you know all I know again how great I feel about her chances and that's what I'm afraid to talk about here. Just because another thing that she brings up is she. She's talking about how poverty flirts with all the guys and that's how she played the game and shed she saying I I just like the. I'm one of the guys I'm just you know I broke down with all the guys and whatnot so I don't know if she like going into this mindset of I similar from how what. Got Nadia Audio in trouble the tribal council that she got voted out. Yes so I mean is if she's going in with that kind of strategy not paying enough attention to the women in her tribe right way. Then that's not going to be good but she also said I'm all about girl power. I'm happy to work with them too. So I don't know I feel like it could go sorry it sound like it could go either way here but Brenton's here you're going to be offensive fence no but have about the balls to go for it so you know what she's going to the final three. That's what's happening with now because my my position is the other way really. You're leaning early. I don't know way way I feel like that. Her in Boston. Rob Are like perfect. I feel like like Natalie Wood work great with Pasta Aerobic. She's on the same tribe as saying I feel like that they would like go together like peas and carrots. I just worry about myself. She has the ability to make people fall in love with her as all of us did as fans watching the game. Of course yes yes so I mean if she can work that charm on anybody out there just keep them laughing. She's funny keep them lashing natural is she is hysterically Berkeley laughing anytime there. Around you kind of energy. I think she'll be fine. I've been on the podcast in a long time but whenever I talk to her I can't stop laughing. She's just like like Natalie what do you think about this now what do you think about this. And she has me rolling whenever we get the talk Haley. How do you think that we've talked to more about her? Game in season twenty nine. How do you think that she's going to come back and play here in season? Forty someone in the comments. I I saw said that she won't be afraid of making big moves because she's already gone out early in one of these shows and is true. I feel like she's not going to be freed. Her sister is indies. You know and people forget that she also has like three seasons of reality television behind her. Sorry you may be kicking animates. Here's one survivor. This'll be four or for her. Okay so I think that's a really big advantage for her like like you guys said I think once you get on the island people are GonNa love her. They're gonNA love having her around. She's good worker. She's a she's a good worker. She's a great athlete. So you're not going to vote her out in the first couple of weeks because you want that kind of strength and she's not Overly sneaky like I mean if anybody is scared of Natalie Anderson. I feel like they're at least going to recognize the fact that in many ways her hands are tied and what she had to do you in blood versus water. I mean she couldn't take on Jacqueline any further in the game. She couldn't she had to betray museum. Baylor at the final five because she didn't want to go into the final four with a couple I. I'm sure she didn't want to betray them but she had from a number of you so I feel like if she can sell it that way. She'll be fine. I just think there's a lot bigger targets here than than her I really. It's hard for me to see a scenario where Natalie's the one we gotta get out right now. I don't see it either. I think she's GonNa make it past the merged I'm really hoping she does. Because she's going to be a really fun player to watch in this situation. I want to play with Sandra. I don't know if that's because I don't have the time and eh on common. They're they're both people who are outspoken. And straight shooters and I think that they would and and both of them are not Buji that they're both gonna they're gonNA get along well. They're going to have a lot in common to one another person on this cast. That is knocking. Doc In like Natalie I'm scrolling through it and I can't see one person who is now I except maybe so except me Sophie. Natalie's going into it saying she's worried about poverty and she's she's doesn't like the way poverty plays the game. That's what worries me because I don't want poverty on my bad side on any survivor season. So that the doesn't care poverty. Say that say that about Natalie. You know she doesn't like the way poverty plays the game and if that gets out she was talking about poverty as saying that she really respects her. I love how Natalie talked about poverty and like the floor game like that trope that I absolutely and I love Natalie Natalie was my winter pick. I don't like changing my winter. Picks I didn't love some of the stuff I saw in the interview today. But she did that thing where I'd like like Matt already mentioned like I'm Kinda like a guy's girl like you know playing down like oh I'm not like I'm not like the other girls like she didn't actually say that but it was at that similar kind of thing that that I. I didn't love that her however she's just so naturally charismatic without trying. There's something about when she talks the way the way that she is. She's just unapologetically Natalie Anderson and in such a likable way. It's like you can't even be mad. And the way that she was is able to get through her season betraying people but having an excuse. I've never seen John Wick but I feel like Ah Movie John Wick. His dog dies or something and then he kills a bunch of people like I think whatever artery okay well. It's an old movie and I haven't seen it. Sorry for nothing but but like I think think she was able to like you know betray people in a way where it with you. You're absolutely justified doing this. And like she was. She was driven by losing Nadia. She was driven by losing. Jeremy and I think that that's something that people will remember. Is that like she when she has someone. She picks as her person her twenty or her honorary twenty that she she is a writer. Die For that for that person so on on the flip side with someone like Sarah who we've already discussed where she was abs- she was would betray absolutely anyone. What narrowly did was we? Didn't we never never saw any any sign of her. Turning on Jeremy so it was when you know. Jeremy was her person and Jeremy got blindsided. That's when she was like. Ra like take time to get dirty and so. I think that that could really help Natalie in that. She doesn't have this scheme any heir to her. That some of these other players so interesting to talk about her in comparison to Sarah that we just got talking about where it's like. Oh Sarah is a backstabber but natalie is loyal they both had the stab a bunch of people in the back to get to the end. But because it's sort of like the narrative is this vengeance. This was that Natalie's loyal and Sarah just had to just backstabbed everybody who she was working with when it's probably a lot closer when you look at it but it's just that perception is so important and I. I really think that people will remember that and like everyone has already said. There's just so many other big names that I just you know. Oh even even me where I loved Natalie. I loved that season and I was so happy when she won re watching some of the you know some of the highlights of that season like I almost forgot how impressive it was and I just think that some of that Amnesia. About that. That time I'm in survivor. Can actually you know not not every person going out there re watched all of these seasons going into shipload. Yeah I I really think that she I'm being very helpful like I said she was my winner paycheck and I'm not going to change it but I I'm really really rooting for her. And if she could tone down the poverty stuff and maybe just not say that to anyone else that would be ideal so all right. Here's Natalie Italy we are GonNA talk about Germy in a couple of minutes but that she has this key ally from her first season. This is huge wjr. Are they going to be seen as a potential pair that also needs to get broken up. And if so like Tony and Sarah is. Could it be Natalie that that is the person who ends up getting knocked out to break up Jeremy and Natalie maybe there's so many pairs in the season that it it's hard to say like which one is going to be the most threatening out of all of them. I mean rob and Amber Sandra this whatever. So Jeremy What Haley I would no. I was just GonNa say like Jeremy and now you're the ones here you're worried about when there's literally a married couple here yell at me for Ah. I don't think that they're gonNA stand out as the biggest threat the biggest pair there will definitely be a point where they need to get broken up but I also feel like I mean. We'll get into more of the Jeremy Stuff soon but Jeremy is somebody that I'm very high on the season and I think a lot of people are also going to recognize. Jeremy is potentially more of a threat right. I think in the long run. The Natalie is so while Natalie may be the more volatile big mouth and all that kind of stuff. Jeremy is somebody that you need to look out for okay. Who else could natalie be working with breads? You see in the any other natural allies for Natalie here. I mean Danny bow ride. I feel feel like would be a natural ally for Natalie because she needs allies herself and as I said before spotty. Yeah I feel like Natalie has so so many options maybe too many options. I maybe you can never have too many options and survivor but She's down to make someone upset if she has everybody coming to her again. She's five years ago. real-time like not many people remember what she did it was great but even then removes or force like she with her hand was forced in what she had to do even if she did do them brilliantly so I gotta feel like she's got a really above even shot ear. J. Has another fellow Jersey girl. uh-huh yeah that was someone I thought of. I think that they're very different. But I but I also the more the more I think about good I can see them really getting along. I think that I mean you guys will talk about Michelle but I think Michelle comes in with a lot of options and I think that they're going to be people clamoring to pick up Michelle Natalie definitely think is someone that would really benefit from having an ally like Michelle may do have that you know New Jersey connection the other thing thing that I wanted to know. I don't know this. This is obviously a couple years ago. But in the game. Changer podcasts. That she did with you rob. Natalie was rooting four. Sarah says she doesn't fit as well so she was like. She said if I if if I had played I would have worked with with Sandra and Tony I would you know kept us together taken out all these little people. Now that Sandra Antonio gone so this was the point I think she. The podcast was like after Haley nause went. She was rooting for Sarah and she mentions it. Various Times throughout the podcast Her only real reasoning was that she does cross it and she's like an athletic attic girl and she's strong and stuff like that. I have no idea if if they've ever met her connected since then but I do think that that is something to note that she was rooting for Sarah and game. Changer sky. All right do predictions for Natalie Anderson. Sure Matt where's Natalie Anderson ending up with the optimistic side of me and say somewhere in the middle of the merge not not at the merge a little bit after the merge Okay all right brand how about you. I think she goes far. I really do when you see her at the end. Yes she can win. There are people who I have on my list who cannot win. She is not one of those people. She can absolutely win if she's sitting in the final three students on who she's up against and what she's done to get there okay. Jenny Eddie I mean I made her my winner pick before like weeks ago or possibly months ago and I am not going to turn back on that so I think that I'm I'm going to be optimistic. Like magic aside and I am going to you picture her going far and I agree with that. She's absolutely someone who if she can get to the end and that she wins so I'm going to stay optimistic and Haley. How `bout you I think he's going to make a deep run and I feel like even if she does get voted out she's GonNa she would kill it on extinction island extinction thing and I think he'd be really good on there? I think people would like I think she'd be good at the competition like she'd search for whatever she had to search for it and so even gets what it out. I don't think it's over for her scrappy. Yeah and I love Natalie Anderson Big Natalie do yeah I imagine the scenario for her where it goes poorly. The only thing I can think about is if her Jeremy and people feel like enough people feel like Oh if if Natalie wasn't around Jeremy would be my person. That's the only way I really feel like that. This goes south for her. I all I think that she can't hold back in the challenges like I could see her coming out and in being somebody who wins a couple of immunities after the merger and then people say oh we have to vote out Natalie. Yeah no she extension extinction. Yeah out here. We Are Standard Sins here on on the roundtable fun. Okay all right. What if like the more recent female winners as in the two of them are worried that maybe they're upset that they never got a chance to win this survivor and they take that out on her? You're take it out on Natalie Anderson yes the reigning this survivor like. What if Michelle and Sarah both like we had an opportunity? Yeah I don't know Michelle the around then we can also blame it on you robin case on blame it on a survivor until he ends the survivor Cambodia. Any of your listeners were around you miss and Mister survivor days. I think I was part of our ACP. For like two and half years before. I really realized I'm like Oh that's the thing like okay and then I was like. Oh Wow that's a really big deal. We'll go no I okay. All right we wrought. Don't you WanNa know what not not. Yes okay. So what. She's been aries. Excuse me right. WHO's the older sister Natalie? Allier Nadia Nadia is. I'm not I'm actually. I am just guessing Ivy. I've heard that it was an audience but I if I'm wrong then I had a fifty percent chance. She's a she's an aries. Very fiery blunt. Passionate kind of person person like like Haley said she's textbook airy so okay I love Natalie. I'm so excited to see her play now. The man who stumped stumped for Natalie said come on give it to Natalie Jeremy Collins is here he's here he's here here. It's going to be on this Jerry. who was the person who came in caves? The firefighter who came Amen. Hot into survivor. San Juan del Sur wanted to surround in draft. WanNa make a big alliance with everybody. That was in his tribe He ran into the Christie brothers. They tested his patients. He survived a Mano Mano showdown with Josh. Only to be blindsided and sent to the jury ultimately Natalie was able to get her vengeance for Jeremy he comes back into survivor. -Vivor second chances and then is everybody's best friend. Everybody loves Jeremy. He even ends up playing an idol on Stephen Fishbach for some reason then he ends up working with Spencer and Tasha and gets to the end. Val tells him they're having a baby boy. Baby boy adds the other baby boy's since then and now Jeremy Wins ten nothing in survivor Cambodia. And now here he is back back nine seasons later. Okay and he's GonNa do it again. Oh my God I love it. Okay all right all right tell us why wife and so good about Jeremy. The same reasons. I felt good about him in second chances. I picked him in that season. Probably the only winner pick that I've ever gotten unless I'm forgetting getting but he's just the perfect kind of player to go into a season like this you you know. He's he's he's a good player but he doesn't stand out as a one of the the biggest threats for some reason. I don't understand why it's like that. But you know he. He says his game. Is I play for my family. I'm just here for them and you know he's he's calm. He's mellow he's somebody pretty good to work with. And just everything about his game tells you that he's going to last long and when he can get good allies underneath him like he did in Cambodia takes them all the way to the ad out and he's got twice as big of a family as he had when he played in survivor Cambo. Yeah Yeah so I'm a little bit of water on that I title. I look I feel like Jeremy would be outstanding winner of this season and he may yet win but I have to believe that the people who are playing on this season are smart enough to realize that if Jeremy is anywhere near the final three he is such a salt of the earth. Kind of guy. There is no way. They're beating him. I disagree with Matt in that. I think that they will realize that Jenner is there is a massive threat to win. Gave like he was able to slide by in second chances because has people didn't realize that they didn't just in John them that Jeremy sitting in the final three. Obviously he's going to win. He's just like somebody you like and you just want to give the money to. He's such a great social presence. That is not going to happen this time. He is going to have to fight tooth and nail. I think he's survives for a while. I think he's not sneaky so I feel like other people around and we'll go out but I do feel like once it gets downs. Like final eight final seven. Then he's going to have to work but in Modern Day survivor whereas noted on a previous podcasts. I can't remember where maybe maybe it's the preseason podcast I can't remember but like With all the advantages in idols and fire making. It's in the game. He might maybe only needs to get to. The end is get into the final eight final seven and he's got a chance so I have to believe that they have a chance to get rid of them. They're GONNA have to idols in on season. Thirty one could not find the idol and he went to go look for it in season twenty nine. But he's got. He's gotten better at that Haley. What's you're reaction to Jeremy Collins? Here I am really excited to see him back. I think he's a fun player. I think he's a smart player. He gives great confessionals. I'm I'm excited to see him. And Natalie team up against what happens there. I think he could go far. Do worry just a bit forum. Bikes the concern. I I'm not even sure decide. He is so smart and he's so great and he's I think he's pretty. He's very charming and people like him but like Natalie. I think I think bigger targets round than HAM. So I'm thinking I really feel like of the people people who are on the show. Yeah has to be top three in terms of not want to be sitting within the final. Three no I agree with that. And that's kind of my apprehension apprehension with Jeremy but I just a couple of different ways to look at it where I feel like that. He is a threat in terms of like well. I'm going to the end with Jeremy but he's not Boston. Rob You know what I'm saying like. He's not somebody that it's like all right. Hey everybody this is an easy one. Go after Jeremy Armie at at this at this vote so I think that he is not somebody you would want to go to the end with but I don't think that he is somebody that anybody is going to feel like. He's a specially threatening. He's and he set up. Well I think he's got the New People on his side if they need him and he's obviously connections to the older players in the whole Boston. Robin Poker birthing. It sounds like he entice be some kind of thing that will happen out there. So if he's got these connections to bring him far into the game and you know what even if they vote him out. Jeremy's the exact kind of person that could come back from the edge of extinction and finding idle and find his way in all the way to the end so I think the twist of the season works in his favor. He'll be able to figure out the stupid fire tokens and he's got friends. I just use them in SC- looking. Yeah Okay Janet. What's your take on Jeremy Collins? I love him so much judge and already getting emotional just thinking about it because because I am Moshe person apparently and rewatching some some parts of Cambodia Lake hearing the way he talks about how hearing the way he talks about his family family. He's an incredible human and I. He's one he's one of the winners that I've just never been so happy for them. Just like not just not just happy about the game like their their win from the game perspective or an entertainment perspective or like satisfying like genuinely happy for him as a person person and I've never met him in my entire life and I think that that is something to note because Jeremy is one of those people that I put in a separate category of love and I kind of alluded to this earlier that put them in any situation in playing survivor and just their natural personality. We'll take them far. Tyson's another person that I that I listen that they're just the natural charisma without trying. Jeremy is so likable so likeable. And I think that there's just something so genuine about him and he doesn't come off scheming And even even though he won that season by everyone feeling like he was their best friend. You you know kind of not not exactly like a little bit similar to how Sarah did it For some reason just doesn't have that same feeling of being like Oh like careful if you think that. You're really like in with Jeremy. Jeremy he probably has like a bunch of other people that he's also really in with and he's insulating himself with you. There's just something about the way that he is not come off as like squeezy and like he's just so incredible I eh on a couple of people that were his friends got taken out in things that had nothing to do with him. Like Andrew Savage got idled out of the game who was a a close friend of his and then somebody who really pushed for him on the jury and then Stephen Ends up getting voted out in a plan that Jeremy wasn't really a part of so or wasn't apart after germy went out on a limb to save Stephen so he was fortunate in that he didn't have to do a lot of backstabbing and he had all these great relationships across the board where it wasn't as difficult to untangle as it potentially could have been and people were member idle plays and I really think that it's so helpful that Jeremy played that idol on Stephen. Whether you know like what that meant for Stevens longevity in the game and whether that ended up being really key to Jeremy's win in the long run. That's arguable but I think that just the reputation as being the kind sky. That would play an idol on. You is so important because there's just so many other players in the season that you know are always going to be so self interested and and even though Jeremy is self interested because he's playing for his family and that's always going to be as thing that's never going to change. There's a way that he plays. And the way that he he connects with people and the the very fact that we've seen him use idols to protect an ally that I'd rather be working with the person person that might play their idol on me then the person that I know one hundred percent of the time even if they don't need you there saving that idle for themselves okay. Is there sure where we're all pretty bullish. Here on Germany's effort Brent. May If if this doesn't go well for Jeremy What does that look like. It's it's pre- merged. I think that he would be booted relatively soon after the merge. I don't think there's really l.. Sir Yes exactly I. I don't think there's really any scenario outside of like an idol. Play that you know ricochets off somebody that he could potentially go home pre merge. I just don't see it so there's the reason to get rid of it. And why are you going to get rid of it and pre merge when there's all these other like threats Jeremy's a really salt the earth guy you can trust them. He might play idol on you like. He's loyal he's not overly sneaky. In a way that I feel like other people could be perceived even though he's obviously someone you're not gonna sit at the end with something something to look out for that came from today's interviews. News is back when Wendell Holland won his season he praised a lot of things about Jeremy's game play Germany as a person Jeremy as a player he just had so much love and respect for Jeremy and every single way his interview that he gave he talked a little bit about. I love the guy but I know he's a threat and I know that I can't take them too. Far are into the game. So Jeremy Wendell said about Jeremy's though it's just another one of those pairs where you might think that like there could be a connection there with how well Wendell uh spoken of him in the past but Wendell is somebody who's already acknowledging the threat level. The Jeremy has and I'm sure Wendell isn't the only one so while it may see I. I'm sitting here saying back. He's going to go into the radar because that's just how he plays the game. There are people who are at least talking about especially somebody who likes him so much so there is plenty to keep an eye on. That's that's the thing now on survivor that you almost never see until you get down to like. It's like the final six. Maybe seven that there's never like boy. We all respect this person so much that we have with them out early now. Just just just another Wendell. Has that thought in his head. Like maybe maybe this. Isn't you know my game plan De. Yeah that lines up with what I'm thinking. I definitely window with grab onto. Somebody like Jeremy if he needed you know allies in the early going. But there's like once you get down to like final ten final nine girl by dominant domino. Wendell they they knew they were going to work together but they weren't going to the end together so maybe we get a similar kind of situation. That would be great. Okay Hey hey what about some other allies. That are out there for Germay. We we've talked about Natalie who are who are some other friendly faces. That could be there there for Jeremy think him and Michelle could do well together. I think Kim and Denise would be a really fun pair to save Kim would be a great in any particular way. You highlight germy and denise did they have any sort of shared friends or anything like that. No but I feel like they have a shared mentality and they're pretty even keeled. They're going to you know. Think about things and can react right away when something doesn't go their way or does go their way. I think they could really play off each other well and able to to think plans over and developed saying I think that would be really fun. Little pair of the people that Germany has not gotten along with great in the past did not love his time with the Christie brothers others. I'm Jay. They didn't invite Fabrio back for the winners at war season. Can you see anybody the year that would fit the provides Keith nail also was somebody de Jeremy was on again off again in his seasons but again. I don't think we have a keith. Steve Nail type either now really. I'm trying to think like Ben Driebergen. Maybe I don't even know if I see that. I think that honestly Jeremy is just fine. Yeah trying to think like who's a little bit more of like the blue collar type for the like from the fantasy football with both of them and acing list right actually for about that. Yeah no I like. That's the thing and that's because Jeremy doesn't like stupid people and I'm sorry if you want survivor and you're being brought so if you're if you've one season of survivor and you're being brought back for for winners at war you're not dumb like say what you WanNa say about. You know your game. None of these people are are the types of people that in another season where where they would frustrate Jeremy. I think I can see him. Getting frustrated by like you know unpredictable types. I could maybe see if Tony is off off the rails and acting extra that Jeremy could like. I don't have time for this going back to Mr Survivor. The also very iconic Mr Survivor twenty fourteen. It was the the three way debate between Jeremy. Spencer and Tony Allen. Wasn't it vetus ours serves. That's something else for or was it might have been twenty-third missus thirteen by this was a tony. Jeremy get into into a little bit but I think it was really both of them. Were picking on Spencer. Sounds about right there season Spencer so what time we offer. Aw Lines like Oxford saying what do you. What do we think about like Taw Jeremy With Adam I feel like he worked with fish back the super fans slash emotional guy kind of archetype is right up his alley? Yeah I mean I mean. Does he play poker or their. Yeah Yeah I feel like there's stuff can action there and you could definitely work with him I. I don't know if it's going to make the most sense for him but I feel like if somebody he can just just kind of keeping this pocket. I don't see any reason. Why not? Yeah I mean I think it's pretty easy to Germany. Put Him with anybody. I think he can get along with anybody. I don't think there's anybody here that's going to really get on his nerves so I feel like that. He has a lot of runway to work with whatever way he wants to go. Is there any way that that could too. Many people feel like they're working with him and then it's almost like that. It's a quote another person from a potential sticky situation. I mean I guess you know sense. He was just I mean if he if he does have friends on both sides of the with the old school versus the new school. I could see Boston. Robbing somebody who you know. Both of them are still in the game. He's like rate Jeremy Friends with everybody tend to go. Yeah but I think eh because he had still has a reputation for being a loyal person that people can still trick themselves into thinking that they're the exception option and that it's it's you know. The relationship with them is real at a point where whereas like with. Maybe I just because we've discussed tonight tonight. Sarah where she was you know double dealing with absolutely everyone and everyone ended up being like no. She didn't have shit about me either. I think that that really benefits him because people people want especially with someone is likable As Jeremy like God like wouldn't you want to be number one So I think that even if a lot of people if people start comparing notes possibly that could get into some trouble but I do think that people people might convince themselves that they are the person that he would play an idol on and that he's truly loyal to so and another thing this going back to the kids thing they all have kids. They're all going to be talking about kids. Twenty four seven. Jeremy succeeded in second chances because he didn't talk about his kids. You didn't talk about the war. Maybe he did a little bit but like he didn't talk about Vallon born why didn't of course. Yeah so if they're all talking about their kids out there in Jeremy is kind of constantly subtly reminding them that he is the family guy who won the game same with that big passionate speech at the end. That's probably not a good idea. Yeah but they all have kids now that kind of reminder is nothing some of the a lot of them do like. There's a team of three three German number four. Like there's probably almost exactly the amount of kids like you could probably put twenty kids Nick Adams Sophie and all Wendell that that we know of of all these people now Natalie already thank you. This denise have decided the need to twentieth too. I think there's a lot of kids. We'll they're twenty eight of forty eight. Yeah Yeah So. That's why I don't think that that is shown dressed as a as a thing anymore. Where and I don't know I just think it gets it's different like the big thing was like you know? He has two daughters and he talks about daughter a lot because I know he talked about how like Spencer was like really bad at like pretending adding to like connect with people emotionally being like because he just kept repeating. Like Oh and Jordan. Is this age and Cameron. Is this age so I know. He talked about his daughter's a lot. It was more so back vowels pregnant and then finding filing to get his first son whereas now he's got two daughters. He's got two sons that he might be able to tell them that that back and like you. You Know Robin umbrellas soccer team that they're going to be trying to play for so I don L.. That's going to be as dangerous as it was before. Do you think it will be hard for a non parent to to win the season especially talking about two million dollars is a life changing amount might ask anybody who's going to be frivolous with with the money. That's out there in terms of these winners but I do feel like that that it would be tough. Ray I maybe Ethan the one non parent who I could see the jury very rewarding honestly. I had forgotten that it's two million dollars like everybody else didn't but I certainly did. I was just like in in my head thinking about a million bucks and I'm like Oh yeah two million this season so like even more so I feel like definitely the people that are like nonsol- not so likely to win like they're really not so likely to win now reminder me like I don't like feeling not good about picking Natalie so I wish that I didn't think about this is that I think that that is a really good point people. Obviously they want to give the money to someone that they feel. It is a worthy representative. I love this. He's in but I definitely think that besides like ability just feeling good that Allen. My niece's kids so your own business is this too so like I feel like in a way that she can circumvent that. Yeah they need to have a purpose. And that's one of the things that Natalie's that Natalie elite in her interview was talking about last time I pushed towards the second half of the game. I did it for Nadia and I always had that motivation of I want to get revenge for Nadia and then as Jeremy he got voted out. I want to get revenge for Jeremy. I'm doing this for now. Both of them and coming into this and she's like I don't know what I have to play for. She's like I gotta get something to motivate me if I if I ever play. Ah Anything then. I'm going to be like I just want this money to give my cat's like a better way to go over. Well I don't know I just foster lots of kittens didn't vote for people like You know if you're if you're nick maybe you say I wanna work with Wendell and atom or Michelle L. whereas if you sort of like oh boy but these people are talking about their kids a lot. We don't have a chance if we get to the final three that they're definitely gonNA awarded a two one or the other parents out there. Maybe US people who are the people who do not have a family yet need to be working together. Kids are going to run out here and seal all our money I do. This came up on survivor ghost island. I think that that was something that I think that I forget it was something that Bradley was actually talking about. Or something that Dominic Dominic was concerned about that that he had heard Bradley might be talking about of you know that we have to vote out the people that have kids or the all the parents because we don't avid shot so who knows all right Jeremy Collins a matter already calling his shot winner. I mean I think the only one who wants a woman to win this season so I'm hoping for that but my gut every time that I know all right. It goes back to Jeremy All right right Hayley Jeremy. I feel good about Germany. But I don't feel the greatest vote. Jeremy Okay Jedi Hot takes hot take. I think that Jeremy can do do well. In this season I can see scenario where he wins. Obviously I've already called my shot with Natalie being a winner and I don't see a scenario where both of them I will. Oh can they. Both we winners as I absolutely love that I have to say I can split it. Yeah if only I do see him making taking it to the merge but I might see like similar finish to San Juan del Sur. I've already said we're emerged boot or a few few boots after talking it through. I wonder maybe if we could see a scenario that where germ is in good with everybody. Everybody and people look around and say boy. If we don't knock Jeremy Out right here he is going to win and that was Kinda what almost happened to him in survivor Cambodia. Boda it was spencer. Who Said Hey you know? I'm telling you Kinney's not with us and people that Jerry Cans gimmes with us and that was well that was blindsided and then Kelly Wentworth played her idol and then Jeremy Played His idol and ended up. Being a zero zero tie in. Kimmy ended up going home. which is another ally that Germany he didn't have the blood directly on her on his hands and she was also targeting him but there was a shot at him at the final six and maybe ABC? This time around they do get in before he starts to get right into that end game where he's potentially making a fire. So maybe a deep ron and then picked off right before he can get close to that final three just definitely. I really quickly about Jerry. Has He ever played from the bottom like the bottom bottom. I just remember like He. He didn't respond. He is in San. Juan del Sur. He was in down the numbers where that it was. It was a point where here I think that they could have thrown a challenge that it was because read and Josh had been together reading Josh and the Christie Brothers were on the tribe and and I think they could have thrown a challenge. Voted him out. Okay my my only point and that was I remember how Jeremy Acted when Kimmy betrayed him he was like Oh you tried to betray. Trey me okay. I wasn't really hot. Yeah exactly a little entitled at times so the text messages. I've awesome fantasy football. He's he thinks he's a Taurus. Yes so Horace can be very stubborn and they also have a little bit like it's called the bowl thing so right so there can be a little bit bull headed but Torres are our loyal. They are hard working. The way that you Jeremy Talks about his family is so very like Taurus to me he. He's pretty he's protective and loyal but don't mess with him because he is a little bit bull headed. So that's my why you might see Jeremy Get a little spicy at times another thing. That's great about Jeremy is that he's the only person that refers to Stephen Fish back. Steve in Steve Steven ever say. Call Me Steve. I don't think a heave. Jeremy has the nickname for Jeremy. So okay there you go all right. What a panel tonight? I had so much fun talking about these four four survivor very much so this was great fun and it was nicer like the the four that we got to talk about today. They're all kind of connected in a way like they all came from around the same time we've been the two of them have played with each other and is like really. I'm I'm so happy to get to talk about these four in particular. Still Mad at Haley for her. She opened the podcast. Do she likes me rubbing grab ass Jenny Kansas to win. Okay okay. Thanks for the chat. If you got him it was going to say and I thought about the superintendent says do you think any of them will raise the flag on the edge of extinction extinction and go home. Can't thinks that they will. I have to say no fricken chance. Whatsoever one come back from imagine extinction with only Yuka? We've seen of it so you've gotta think they're like Oh. Why would I risk it? Like I'm still in the game. So yes actually with the opportunity to win Advan or to get advantages. That could help you in the edge of extinction. Challenge with the fire tokens that maybe it's it's like well. I'm not athletic so I can't do it. But maybe there's ways that you could potentially by a by way to the final part or some other way to get into the game and it's not just winning challenge. Nobody's nobody's leaving with two million dollars on the Line Avenue. Yeah and you're not going home like Alex Watch Rob Boston. Rob Cast a jury vote. No chance at by the way I we just thinking about this too. You know they sit there doing edgy. Extinction and guaranteed them. You'll have at least one chance to get back into the game. That's what probe sets. Ross so so I am on early hopeful that they do edge of extinction for the pre merger and then say so something here for the March abandoned. But what I do. I hope that they stop it earlier of I agree with idle. Stop giving them an idol. Please do gory of the lake. Idols that expire at certain times like I was. I was a fan of that from thirty nine. If you're going to be giving idols. Let's like make them more like time bombs. Just just watch Chris and Tommy are going to enter the game. The final seven going to run okay. Let's see if any good questions aid to the questions or recollections Pedro's me as a firefighter can devalue the the other fire tokens. You see what I'm saying Jenny if we had them all right so what sign is wanting to sign is one the most times car burn burn. Woo Few capricorn on this. Cast Rob and Adam and because they're so focused on their goal all stare again. That's the thing like Kabir categories are like Vegas should done you know and they are also they want that money. Yeah Okay all right tomorrow. Night live at nine PM. Eastern we will be recapping the final week of the circle and talk about about the winner and how it all played out. We've got a great panel coming up tomorrow night at nine PM Eastern six. PM Pacific. I believe it will. We'll be myself entire Armstrong Kirsty mckiness America Caskey. And hopefully the professor. Tim Wilson will join us one more time to talk about about everything that goes on in the final week of the circle and then on Monday nights seven PM Eastern four Pacific. We're GONNA talk about all the stragglers the a winner. The one time players one in the thirties. We haven't talked about. That's GonNa be Michelle from survivor. Koran Adam from millennials versus gen x band. Bergen talk about Wendell Holland and Nick Wilson coming up on Monday night so tune in for that one. Our final preseason around table talking about all of the winners okay. Haley what's going on on the bachelor. RECAP PERHAP- these days. There's been a couple of champagne accidents over on the bachelor shish champagne. Can you give us the quick version. Yes so Kelsey. Brought Champagne that she's owned for one single year to the bachelor share and a special moment with Peter. She got asset near a fireplace ham and came across the champagne I think she tried to set champagne date with Peter. As well I producers awesome say led her to that Champagne told her pop that bottle they did because he got Super Mad later on Kelsey found Hanane Champagne they decided to just pop that and then she made the cardinal mistake drinking out of a champagne bottle and it never did impress Hodayan. TV just don't drink straight from champaign doesn't work as well as with other other follow checkout amy and Haley on the bachelor wrap up everywhere. The the This this week show is already up. Yes yes he'd check it out. Okay all right Jenny. Ah What's going on with you. I don't know what is going on here up. I'm just hanging out trying to get over pneumonia and I am pneumonia. I went to the doctor and finally yesterday. I've got pneumonia so you know what I'm podcasting with pneumonia guys so maybe you can be nice about my astrology bullshit. Okay if anyone wants talk about it you can tweet at me Adjani autumn and other than that. I have nothing going on in my life so feel bad for me. uh-huh now really excited for this season. Very very rare review. What's new not much is new? You you know podcast in about the challenge when that's on but that's not on right now the survivor all stars. Mary plugged it. I think last week. We went back and watched all-star. So if you haven't checked out yet I've been a big all-star since since that was that was my first season this season it. Yeah I didn't know you at the time. I didn't know I was my first season. I didn't watch anything guy. Yeah Amber this are rob lost in such a way that he did. It said all the people that I was rooting for God acts in Boston. Robin his cronies continuous. It was it was my first season so I didn't know anybody and I came in loving God number because they were running the season and then one and that it was just the best feel good story of all time so Mary and myself and it seems like more people are coming to us with like. Oh we also kind of like all stars thought it was just me So apparently there's more of us out there so that was fun over on Caskey cast ask and of course back. When the survivor season starts up again I guess maybe a little sad to say that? I won't be doing three to one the season because I will be doing some power our rankings which I just need to talk about every single one of these players. They can't just talk about like six weeks. So the big format this season eight takeaways from watching survivor. All Stars ars on the REWATCH. I took away amber needs to get a little bit more credit Ah just overall. I think that we got her thought process pretty often throughout the late part of the game and she was definitely just as much as part of the team but I thought to after I watched it again for the evolution strategy. I do think it's interesting. We talk more about the meat shields in terms of the thirties. But I wonder how much was amber sort of. Hey I'll go where he's going and how much was she sort of like calculus of. Hey I'm going to You know I'll be fine as long as I put this guy out in front of me. He'll lose and this is how I'm going to win the game. Yes she was. She was following along with every step the way they make decisions together she did hold him back in moments where he might have like otherwise bend a little bigger for what he should have been in the game so she definitely deserves some. So how crazy was it to sit down and watch today a preseason interview of amber first season. It was just insane to me. I couldn't smiling me either. She looked incredible. She really looks amazing. Not only my is. What's crazy to me about? It is that she's an issue is like Oh you know. Nobody's going to believe that nobody is going to be looking for me. Nobody's going to expect that I'm here and it's like this is the same exact thing that happened last. Oh I can't I have too big of a target. Forget everybody's coming for me like nobody's ever looking for me season. Is this time. We'll see the way and Brandt. How about you? Ah I know you were so worked up about sequester. It's how I watch my reality. TV Rob it's very hard for me to this associate myself. From on my television. I was laughing because you were very proud and I saw that audrey was like is this. We tried something cancer. Don't think he's going to go and take it easy. I really liked what you said though like I got to like I 'cause I told him when I first decided you know as I said I told her I would like to cover the show. You're like you think it's it's ready to be covered. I said yes and I'm like I'm going to call them as I see whether it's good or bad like I'm not going to give the show special treatment. Basically on big brother I call him as I see the guy on the couch watching it and some people appreciate it and some people don't but I don't expect anyone to like we just but I am who I am. I'm like Popeye. You know I am the I want everyone to me. I can't really avenue all right there. You go all right. We we have got so much going on this month and plenty to talk about with sequester and all this survivor stuff going on in our patron groups a lot of talk this week about all all of the events that we have a planning for we have four live shows coming up here in season forty including a big premiere party and RHA P ten year anniversary in Los Angeles that we're doing lots of stuff going ought patrons are of you know grabbing up tickets left in writing for everything that we're doing if you want to be part of that. Rj Patriot community. Head over to rob has a website dot com slash patron for more information. Thank you guys so much for. You're listening to the PODCAST Jenny. Haley Brennan Mad so much fun tonight. We back on Monday with one more round table panel to care have a good one bye

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Daddy Yankee Ft. Marc Anthony REALMENTE ES UNA TIRAERA PARA DON OMAR

Frequencia Urbana Podcast

25:07 min | 2 months ago

Daddy Yankee Ft. Marc Anthony REALMENTE ES UNA TIRAERA PARA DON OMAR

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Steve Kerr on being a GM

Warriors Off-Court

20:12 min | 2 years ago

Steve Kerr on being a GM

"Welcome to the forty seventh. Episode of warriors off court San Francisco Chronicle's MBA podcast on your host wears beat Radyr, Connor Laterna. And today, I'm joined by Golden State head coach Steve Kerr to discuss how his three year run as general manager of the sons shaped Kerr who has led the warriors three MBA titles in the past four years should go down as one of the greatest coaches in league history. But before he got into coaching. He was what he would describe as a badge is time. With the sons included a well-publicized riff. Mike Antoni an unsuccessful trade for seculow Neil and the hiring and firing Terry porter after shootaround Friday morning just a couple of days before Golden State's final game against the Suns this season chatted with curve all he learned from that period of his career. We'll have that interview. Right after the break. Hi, it's Heather Knight columnist for the San Francisco Chronicle and host of the podcast, San Francisco city insider, I convinced the city's movers and shakers to tell me what's going right with San Francisco, and what's going very wrong. People like mayor London breed, and billionaire Mark benef- have talked about homelessness filthy streets, car break ins, and some real tricky subjects like where they go for the city's best burrito. Get the inside scoop and sim laughs on San Francisco city insider. Steve Kerr recently became the fastest coach in any major American sport to reach three hundred wins. But not all of his career has been so defined by success. Will we caught up Friday morning after shootaround? That's exactly the part. I wanted to hear about what did he learn from his three year run as the sons GIO to great experience wasn't job, but I learned tongue. Biggest say, organizational, dynamics and the relationships killed his Asia. So. Owner GM toge, you know. Top players those have to all be in line to really well, the organization, and I made some mistakes there Tyler and we had some success too. But. I think when you. On you. I. Take on a job like that. It's hard to really envision. What you getting into what your because you think about gotta make draft picks. Right. Trey s and hire the right people. And that's all true. You have to do all that. But really have to learn about organizational structure and communication in. How the process has to look was that ever a goal of yours when he finished playing to be GM office. No my goal really was to be a coach. I was consultant from sons to television for teen and to. And. So sovereign. I. That's no other you helped him get a meeting. Right. Yeah. So he he came to me we both went to you of a he was on he knew coach Olsen Tucson coach Olsen hall on hand said could you made with Robert saw ver- wants to own an NBA team. So we connected helped introduce them to. People in the league gave it stern. Jerry colangelo. And I didn't realize would happen so quickly. But no, you know, within a month's meeting meeting and him meeting. David Stern Robert had bought the sons and. It was it was kind of crazy how it happened. And I was very happy with my life doing TV being at home with the kids older because of that. So this would have been two thousand four. So middle school. Yeah. Twelve let's see fifteen years. Nine seven again. So. For the next several years. I was consultant while I was doing the TV and got to know Robert got so no people in the organization that has ask your opinions on ask. What matters give you all you have to go there much. Not a whole lot. As consultant. I would take part in phone calls with Bryan Colangelo and David Griffin. Driver Rabin on the call. Sometimes. Just discussing basketball matters. And. So I did that for a few years and Brian left for Toronto to be GM there, Robert Ashby to GM and. I did it surprise you. Or did you know that cut you start at all or well, Brian was Brian left and took a year for Nido take the job. I was. David Griffin is running the operation. Mike, Tony was GM. During that year. But Robert really wanted. Separately GM. Felt it was too much sponsor -bility. For the coach Mike, and I agreed with that. It's a tough thing to do. So you know after year, I decided to do it and. So I was there two thousand seven to ten and. Incredible learning experience. And. Just a. It was it was a whirlwind. Zero hundred Jewish in them. Were you living in San Diego? Then tire time. Well, I got a condo and cenex my family state in San Diego. I went back and forth. That's part of the GM job. Gives you flexibility instead of going to college and scouting games. So I generally went to the home games with the. Usually go on a road game. But for the most part when they were on the road. I'd get back see my family, and and it's so close. I mean there were there even days were literally fly an implied home. I lived on south westerly. You can't even pass, you know, it didn't take long to get the companion. I was doing, but it was tiring to to to try to be. Dad on. GM and fly back and forth. I did enjoy a lot of aspects of it. But the main aspects that I enjoyed the team building around the play relationships. Yeah. But some ways it was. Unsatisfying to because as a GM you're not there every day on the floor the players interacting. It's more of made the analogy before. But you're you're sort of the second cousin when at the family reunion, you know, and so you, you know, your little bit on the looking in and. And I knew I wanted to be on the court wasn't ready to coach. So I fully my contract. And is the thirty years. I think I think there was a. Option. Both ways for the fourth year. Just out of. I think we just had a freer on didn't have an option your deal and. At the end of the contract. I just I knew that. I wanted to. The home more. Difficult to live. You know, we made the conference finals last year to ten which very satisfying really good year. That's some good young players with Goran Dragen. Robin. Lopez. Pretty good about kind of where we were a lot of rocky points along the way, but a good good season that year contract is up. And I just felt like no, it's it's time for change. And. In retrospect. One hundred percent glad I did it. I made some mistakes that have have helped me with this job to under him organizational structure. Amyx? You know, some ways I'd like to do over on some. That's looking at your tenure there. It seems like you did a pretty nice job in the draft some of the trades. Maybe I know you've you've express you have some aggressive the trays. Maybe you did what is that kind of? How you look at it. You could get about more better about the craft aspect there. Or did. Okay. Yeah. I don't think anything. Only anything jumped out in terms of like. We had home run here or. Did this or we did that we were fine? We were you know, got a couple of good players in the draft missed on a couple of guys. The big big things with that too. That I realized a lot of people warned me about the job was. I came in kind of at the end of the run as beginning of the end of the run phase of. Gnashing Mary getting older and. And so that run began four five with th