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Some old friends are coming into town

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Some old friends are coming into town

"So want to get this thing started or. I mean, that's why we're here, isn't it? Yeah, I thought so. Eases christ. Just there's Keithly punks. Hello, and welcome to keep sounding podcast. Your official Carolina Panthers podcast or cat scratch. Got it. Right. This time. An SP nation site. I'm joined by John John. How are you doing tonight? I'm doing well, Brian, and I'm thinking, is this utter asshole, Brad? Are you doing this mess? The nicest thing you've ever said to me? Yeah, at Ryan's. Nice to you. Yeah, our okay. Real blue blue. So we have a football game after what feels like an eternity since the last Panthers football game. The Panthers play, the New York Giants, aka Panthers kind of north since the Buffalo Bills are also vying for that title. There's less north answers less north like that. North west. Now they're in the same. That's like the least possible thing. It could be. I was trying to make a Konya West's thing, but it didn't work out. So you know they have. You're right about that. Trying to be. Yeah, that's what I get make this podcast. Great. Again, my right. So. Before we give into all that, I'm sure Brad is going to really enjoy this next bit. The Panthers signed safety, Eric, read this past week when last week I it was. It was what they signed him. Literally, like Trump nights are two days after we recorded our podcasts and Brad went on this rant about how the Panthers sign air grief. And it's funny because I, they announced the signing like an hour after I published the the show. Like they were. They heard that rant and they immediately they got read in the building right away. I know I know Brad's rant was the reason. Absolutely was I am taking full credit for it because I went, I was very passionate about that rant. And it was is probably one of the better rants I've ever had and it's no coincidence that they signed him the next day. Not at all we made in our brand on cat scratch reader to sign Eric creed after Ron Rivera, basically, it was like, oh, we like the guys we have in the building and I fully Philly attribute the siding to of Eric read to everyone at pest graduated. But specifically, Brad and us three on the keep signing podcast. I just think. It's a great feeling. It is just to be here knowing what we've -ccomplish. Yes, to to be single handedly as long as a whole responsible for a major transaction for the Panthers. It's. It's it's humbling. Is this what feeling winning and Grammy is like? I mean, I just. Debbie close. It's pretty humbling. I must say like. Imagine it's a similar feeling. Yeah, it's gotta be. It's gotta be. So, yeah, obviously, if you hadn't heard the Panthers signed, the big, the big talking point of the off season may be behind Colin Kaepernick in, you know, whatever else, Eric, read, the guy who kneeled next him for the first time are the first guy should save kneel next to him. And now they have a starting safety who's actually good the first good safety since Mike? Yeah. Well, other than Colin Jones, obviously. But the first like legit Pro Bowl safety since Mike Minter on the team for two mil for the season. It's good. It's good stuff. That's what we call hashtag pretty good. It's a bargain as bargain. Yeah, hashtag this really sad when you think about it that he's the best safety with had since Mike men are Mike Minter tired in what two thousand and two are two thousand and three or something like that. Like it's been that low. It's been a long time. Let's find out the best we had. Blooming. Fire up the oh, Google machine. He played well. He played longer and I thought he played from nineteen ninety seven to two thousand six. The best safeties the Panthers had since him were Chris Harris, Charles, Godfrey. Kurt coleman. And I guess Sharad Martin maybe. Always own well, yeah, collar obviously the goat. But you know, in the business we call that a murderer's row of safeties. Yeah, that's worldbeaters also forgot about rookie. Nakimora. How can I forget about? There's a good one. He was the next Ed read, you know, well, he played behind. Yeah. You play behind him. So I mean, he was just as good if not better because he was younger. Yeah. I mean, everybody knows whenever an under study takes over for an oversight. They always their shoes fully. Nice. Brington. Thanks like ducks. So on top of Eric Reed being signed the Panthers, come out this week really frigging healthy. I mean, really frigging healthy in regards to all the other crappy put up with a mean like, you know, the last several weeks of and we've been talking about how this guy's hurt. This guy's hurt. This guy's hurt this guy's hurt. So now they have Curtis Samuels back from his quote, unquote thickness. We have Greg Olson's practicing again. He won't play this week, but just the fact these practicing five weeks removed from breaking his foot again, is miraculous. Who else we got out there. Birds back to me your bird obviously big deal house. Bird. Hashtag house bird. Trey, Turner's back, pretty Turner is back from the concussion protocol. Just listen is no longer dealing with a groin injury. Nora seriously still in the concussion protocol. And quite frankly, he should probably just stay there. But you know. On Asia on verve. Yeah. Yeah. But in a. It's crazy looking at the practice report, the injury report for practice and seeing a point space under did not participate. Yup, in I believe that's the first time all year that that that's happened and then only one limited participant, and it was Greg who is way ahead of schedule. Which I have a thing about, Greg, everybody talk you like there's a lot of people like all over the internet saying, you know, Greg Olsen don't rush back. You know, basically people saying when he showed her shouldn't be able to play with absolutely no intimate knowledge of the situation like no MRI's is no x-rays, no discussions with Greg and how he feels just based on the fact that they are broken foot. People feel like they're, they have enough knowledge to gate when he should be ready to play. It's not how it works. With that is how it works. We all play fantasy all gone. We're experts here say. They say, Greg Olsen foot injury, and then it's like the doctors and medical professionals and grey also he feels good all say. He'll be good soon based on my information that I know. I think they're wrong. I've read my notifications on my fantasy football team for. Awesome. Thank you. I know he's not ready. I don't care what the doctor say. My impression of a broken foot says, it should take eight weeks before he blades. And if he returns before before the next four weeks, he'll be a borderline t. e to thank you expert here. Thanks for the fantasy. Yeah. That's all I want is I want to see about injuries has just the whole idea that we as fans know absolutely nothing about his injury. So if Greg feels good and he doesn't, it doesn't hurt in the doctors think he's healed enough. Trump was role within. Yeah. And someone brought up a good point on CSR or maybe it was Twitter, I forget. They were like, well, he shouldn't rush back and someone said, well, you know, he's not played the last almost two seasons basically, and he just went for a broadcasting job. So you know, this might be his last chance to play football, which I can. I can definitely level with their. Is he on that point? It's like who says, if he came back, not this coming week, but next week who says that's rushing back like, why is that rushing back? Why is that? Like who determines what's rushing in? What's taking it slow and what's appropriate. Obviously the fans who have intimate fantasy knowledge, John. Thank you. That's what I'm, that's what I've seen. So looking forward, we have a little reunion of sorts with the Dave Gettleman led New York Giants while so boasts. The formidable face of Mike Shula who isn't actually calling place for them, but it's still their offense coordinator SMH. So. I guess let's start with the offense versus defense. So obviously the giants despite their struggles boasts, quite a formidable group of players on offense with Odell Beckham junior's sterling Shepard. Obviously, obviously saquon Barkley probably the next big thing as far as a rushing and receiving back goes. So John, I'll start with you since you are usually doing the defensive preview. What's your, what? What are you looking at here? What's the biggest thing we should be watching as far as the game goes this on Sunday. Well, in general, not just for the game, but I would like to know what makes his actual job is if he doesn't call the plays or anything like that as an offense coordinator, he's supposed to look like. Runs in meetings or something. I don't know. Basically glorified quarterback coach. It it seems like. It's really all he does because Pat Shurmur calls the plays. But Shula I think it's a situation where they're using his play design because you know, he's actually decent at doing that part of it, but he's not being given the the microphone to make the call on win to run what because that's the part of his job that he really sucks at. I will say one thing about Mike Shaw because we, we've had often divine issues simulate the entire time. We have muscial as offensive coordinator. And then he is relieved of his duties in this year with talent that I don't think is vastly superior to what we've had. The last couple of years we've got. Suddenly we have like the best run blocking off until line in the NFL and camps got sacked, like what? Three times three games. In the giants for their part have one of the worst offense of lines in the NFL and I know they were already bad, but I, I just wonder if there's something to do with the play designs that make the too tough on the offensive line. We are arguing about. I think it could be. We were arguing about this here in the slack chat over the bye week about Matt Kalil. About how Chris Clark can't be that much worse than that Khalil. But. I brought this up in, you know. It's obviously up for debate, but it seems kind of like Mike Shula's offense and Carolina at least was like, that guy has to block that guy. That's just how it goes on this play. If he doesn't block them, we're screwed or like Norv Turner is like, oh. We have a problem here. Let's scheme against that. Let's throw a quick pass to Christian McCaffrey. Let's throw a quick pass to Torrey Smith because this is a bad match up for Chris Clark. Kind of what it seems like in I, I don't know. I mean, I've been watching a Mike Shula offense for a long time, so I don't really know what adjustments feel like, but you know. Yeah, I would. I would say that's probably that's probably true in in some capacity like there's, there's definitely are there someone say definitely definitely. Probably probably some more scheming for to account for witnesses on the office of line, but to go to your original question about the giants offense. They have all of the playmakers you can ever desire on offense. I think under than like they're probably behind like the Rams and like maybe the Vikings in terms of overall talent with Odell Beckham sterling shepherd and Ingram and saquon Barkley. But like we just talked about offense line real bad. I manning not great. And then you know, I mean, patron was home ablaze, but am I chill offense, actual offense. Manning is like, I think the sixth shortest average Jeff the target this year. So it's going to be a lot of take a snap, throw a crossing Beckham in as long as Keith Klay Thompson and all them are able to rally be okay. Markley will probably get one big play, but one big play won't feel matters. It shouldn't at least without inept giants offenses, tiring. So you say that, but there's one point I want to bring up. Panthers have allowed, at least over the last two games. Several plays that went for a lot further than I felt they should have between like Giovanni, Bernard and Edo and Edo Smith with the falcons for like twenty twenty five yards against those guys. You know, twenty twenty five yards. Okay, but against saquon Barkley those can be touched down. So I am a little worried about the rush defense just because they didn't seem like they were all together against the Bengals and granted, you know, you have the by week to focus on that, but that was a little concerning. Considering like the strength of this defense is supposedly the front seven, but they were letting counterpoint go ahead. The giants offense is real then like the falcons. I do like I don't. I don't think I do think like saquon we'll get a big player to Odell might get a big player too, but they are like the falcons and Bengals can have hit those big place in keep going. The giants don't do that. They like, I'll go and all you have to do to solid drive his sack Eli manning. He's been sack more than almost anybody that he's the fourth most sat quarterback in the NFL so far this year and and you really don't have to do much to sack Eli manning. All you do is just ruined towards him. Tweeted at like during the Cowboys game? I think giants Friis Cowboys says, like, I think at this point, like if a guy like yelled really loud, you get sack. That even getting touched. So he, he goes down as soon as he sees somebody that might get close to him. He's like, he's like, he's like a drew Brees on stilts like he's takes us ready to knock them over. I'm a fights though he'll shift around and. You know, he'll sheds attack was your ally manning the defensive defensive lineman can be blocked and like reach around the guy blocking. And if Eli manning feels a hand, shoulder, repet- is collapsed into a puddle. Well, that's why that's why I mean like a drew Brees on stilts because UI manning Zeo like a bit tall. So he strikes me short quarterback who might be able to make a play, but he's also on stilts where you can't like, you know, plant in a way. So that was kind of the joke goes, may just not get what you say. He's very wobbly. Yes, he's top. He's like, he's like, he's like a newborn horse like they haven't quite figured out how to walk yet. The perfect description. So he just Bambi back in the he's in the pocket, and then it's like, oh, no. Somebody like clip might hip all up. I'm falling down. Manning is it's a, it's a chance for FAA to build off. Last week's breakout performance may get another sack on the resume. We should definitely definitely get more than one sec on Sunday. In mean the Panthers defense, which means we'll get zero and the giants will score forty eight points on us. I mean, it's Fasel I wouldn't. I wouldn't say likely. So it wouldn't surprise me in the least for that game. Just reeks of that. Chicago Bears crap. Because the Johnny. Well, real quick just about when we're point on the this are the giants offense scored eighteen points against the saints at home. Mike, that's that's. That's enough. ULA how bad their offenses I, yeah, you could just better. All I know is that the Panthers are one of those prime teams were a guy can bounce back in this just reeks of like owed l. Beckham going for two hundred and fifty yards receiving. The scares me. I have posts surrounded stresses order with this team is where necessary greets for. If he plays. I mean, Colin Jones is starting over him. Allegedly college. A Collins is fast. You know what? You're right. He is fast. I forgot about that. We're saved. This is the perfect play guys. Every solid that. Know real question. How. I swear to God. If we're on Rivera, says that he solid debt, I will quit this team. I am not even kidding. How many plays do you think Eric Reid's going to see, I think we'll see at least seventy five percent of the snaps. Yeah, I think that's what I'm thinking. I'm thinking he's he's not going to start, but he's gonna come in really early and we won't see Colin Jones anymore. Wait. That's what happens when the safety is good. I didn't think it mattered. Yes. Brian, you're gonna transition us or. Oh, I thought you guys were still talking. I'm sorry. Are you listening? Terrible home this Christ? Okay, so Brad, we just talked about what Jesus Christ. Why are you still abrasive. So I asked John about what he had, what he thought about the giants offense. I don't know if you have anything else you want to add. Probably not, but I'll go ahead and ask you anyway. No, Donald John pretty much covered everything. Sorry to steal everything from love that club that Cutler and it's by Brad? Yep, Yep. Okay. So look, I mean, if you want, if you want color analysis, I'll give it to you. I mean, see what we have to have here is the Panthers need to score touchdowns instead of field goals. And if if they can come out with a way to score more points than the giants, then they'll win the game. The sounds good. I'll it. I just Troy Aikman and. Yeah, I just gave you Troy Aikman. Nothing came that. Yes. I was trying to think of the tide in play that does Monday night football. I couldn't think of his day. I couldn't think of his damn name Jason Witten, Jason Witten air we go. Yeah, there we go. Yeah, he's. You're supposed to be a football writer. My God. Play him football writer, but I covered the Panthers. Thank you very much. Part of the job is knowing the names of all the broadcast teams. It is. Yeah, tracked. So looking at the giants defense. There's obviously some decent pieces there alleviate ver- and. Landon Collins janoris Jenkins. Snacks, Harrison. If he does play, I believe he practiced limited basis today. The Panthers offense seems to be rolling so far though. I mean, like after the first week they were a little. They're a little rusty then, but against the falcons they did lose. But they still played well on offense and against the giants. They ran for one hundred and eighty yards with Christian McCaffrey. That's taking away any yards. They got with anybody else. So right now the offense seems to have some mental going. Looking at this game, Brad. Who is it on offense that you, I guess are excited to see or who who do you think is going to be a key to this game. I'm going to take the easy way out and go with Christian McCaffrey because that's that's pretty much who it is. Like if we can see a repeat performance of what we saw two weeks ago against Cincinnati, you know, I think we'll put ourselves in a position to win. That's the correct answer. Pass even. I was gonna say that that actually brings up something I wanted to mention like. This Panthers offense for the last how many years was defined by Cam Newton's performance where now kind of seems like it's defined by both him and Christian McCaffrey. Now, like McCaffrey has become arguably as much of a focal point as him in this offense where it's not just on Cam to make those plays not just on can make those throws. Now, McCaffrey is all of his place doing like everything in almost like a complimentary fashion to Cam Newton, and that's kind of refreshing. So I don't know if you disagree John or agree. No, it's it's Grisha McCaffrey's definitely the guy to watch because the giants. Actually do really well on outside Evan wide receivers. So it might be tough for candy going down the field, the bunch of Smith in the light. But, but like they've been. Yeah, Alvin Kamara Alba Kamara had. One hundred thirty four yards and three touchdowns on nineteen theories. Against the giants and then got an average nine yards a catch as well. So it's definitely a. It's probably going to be gained both. Both teams are going to kind of stay near the lines offensively. So McCaffrey is gonna. I would definitely could definitely see another late twenty carry over one hundred yards performance. Any might get a few more catches. He's only two instances Nettie. Yeah. They like twenty. Here is in like four, five, piracy sketches. Maybe it is nice to see from this offense. The fact that they can like. About-face their game plan and go from Christian McCaffrey cash fifteen passes to him. Rushing the ball twenty two times and catching the ball twice. That's got to be difficult or coordinator to deal with when they can just go from heavy passing, heavy thinkin dunk offense to pound the ball down your throat offense, all with the same personnel. Like, that's that's pretty exciting. My opinion. Just really the way you should do everything. I don't know we've had. We've had a lot of Mike Shula here, so I think we're just trying to recover from that. We we said, okay times, but it's amazing the things that were excited about as a fan base in our office coordinator should be common sense. Like, this is amazing, our office of coordinator, late changes. The plays we to week I is. This is incredible. Yeah, that's what twenty nine other off its coordinators have been doing. He lets Cam Newton run the no huddle when he wants to like Mike God revolutionary stuff. It is coach of the year opinion. And also speaking of Cam Newton. He's probably gonna run more this week to, as I said, the giants are gonna have secrets blanket. He's going to have to run the tickets yardage. So I think heavy heavy ground game and you know how much I'm saying the run game. Yup. Run the ball as much as you can don't pass it. That's John. That's John's motto. Yep. It's all about, then you probably really enjoyed what Ron Rivera said. The other day about running the ball. I saw somebody as all get glance skimmed over. Somebody said some of that, like what he say, assing stuff's cool, but you still need to be able to run to win. Yes, exactly. Has the patriots as the patriots. Have James white being their best running back right now and the colts end, the colts right now have I think, nineteen Hanes has every single back. They'll not over this game or almost who's a tiny little fellow. That's never as fast catcher more than runner. He was also a wide receiver in college. Yeah. Just twenty fair to the Coles. Aren't they without? Aren't they without TY Hilton. So they kind of had Wii Houghton, pay plays running back, adjust on the fly. No, they're having to run the ball because they, they don't have their best receiver. What was your saying? Like the guy that they're using on the ball is a is what you typically call scap BAC not like this. You know, he's he's five, nine, two hundred pounds like he's not a because he played college. He's not like everybody, not everybody, but a lot of people still think that like. Oh, you know, this guy speak. So he's workforce Leonard fournette. He doesn't hurt. Big. Funny because letter gets hurt all the time. I see. Yeah, picked it up. One of the thing I just when I was looking at Alba Kamara stats as a call back to the offense, the giants offense. Threes. Eight players are seven players called passes. Lastly, exactly. Zero of them, average ten yards a catch against the saints. Let's the saints defense is so good. It is, I guess. So. I mean. They put the clamps on Ryan Fitzpatrick the bucks in week. One. Matt Ryan, the foul content no answer for that defense. So yes, it's, it is defense. But like oil average nine yards gets shepherd average eight year to catch Morlin saints, more like New Orleans paints. 'cause they're all over everybody. Hi nickname. Yep. One thing before we get into the score prediction. So Michael Pelosi signed a three year extension over yesterday. Wednesday today's day. Actually, it was three days ago if you're listening to this podcast, whatever Michael party signed a three year extension this week, that fair. Yes. Okay. I guess so Michael was great. Is the best punter in the league so far over the first four weeks by pro football focus. And I know sometimes take their grades grain of salt, but when they're pro Panthers, I'm all for it. So that's how that's how we consume information. We agree with we, we only give merit to glens v agree with exactly. That's how you're supposed to operate. Right. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. He beat out Andy Lee for his job last year because he had higher hang time on his punts. And overall it seems like special teams in general seems to be doing pretty well this year. I think that higher hang time certainly good. But any. Usually. So, yeah, we have the three special teams guys of the NFL all locked in for the next three years. It's pretty good. Those pretty good my opinion special trailer to to get us hype for the next three years of special teams. Imagery. What did they call themselves the brand or something like that for the brand specialists, specials officials, amazing. You still Pat Mak these thing. Yeah, my favorite one was our Graham took the turtle neck off on Retha sweater for the sweater vest with nothing underneath it classy. Yes, those real classy quite quite classy. Panthers obviously at the edge in special teams game. So that's going to be a major factor. So looking at the score guys, John all start with you, what is your game prediction? As far as the score goes. Panthers are gonna win. I think it's going to be. Twenty six, ten. Interesting. Lafayette goals not feel. Anyway, might struggle a little bit in the red zone just because we might have a hard time getting like having consistent success massing all so surprise move it on the field on feels. Brad, what about safety? The giants offense so bad. This is also possible. It is Mike Shula offense by calling the place. So, yeah, Brad, what's your score prediction. I believe the Panthers are going to win the game, and I believe the score is going to be twenty nine to thirteen. Because I agree with John, I think we're gonna see quite a few field goal attempts giants are gonna win by Brian. I actually I'm getting off my pessimistic Patty's rain. Oh shit. We're losing. I'm gonna twenty four to twenty one Panthers. I think the giants, I think the giants will still manage score points because there really isn't anybody on the St. fence who can cover Odell adequately all the time in my opinion. But I still think the Panthers win. So twenty four twenty one. Defense for Beckham is that you'll, I'm ending his quarterback. Yep. Pretty much James, Brad, and really all we have to do. All we have to do is run the ball and don't give Eliah chance to be out there. That's the key to winning the game John. So what you're saying is chew up the clock, get that possession time and. Yeah, yeah. I mean, he li- can't beat you if he's not on the free. Sure. Can't lie. I don't. I can't spot. One thing about your pets ear optimistic, take your not as missing. You will use the game to be closer than giants fans do. Horned f- impulse survey, right. Yeah, fan according to fan polls. Giants fans don't even think that the giants could win the game. They predict Carolina to win by six points and their giants fans. Of course, they also only eighteen percent of our confident that their team is headed in the right direction. So my mind, it could just be that they're having a balance on other thing. The fan pulse of people that agreed to sign up to get an Email every week to share their thoughts on the team. So it's, you know, you're not going to get a lot of these are super fans like you agreed to pay time out of your day to do this to be bothered by getting an Email. This isn't just like Jimmy Fallon walking up to random people on the streets of New York, asking these questions? Yes. Oh, if she's a lot about the direction of their team, if those are the fans that used to what eighteen percent or confident the direction and they eighteen percent that it was fifty four percent last. Tweak, you know it was about fifty fifty last week, but then when they got beat by the saints that draw pretty well, they like it's skyrocketed after they beat the Texans. And then they lost again, never mind. It would strip like shape back down to before. The huge rise in huge drought. So my reasoning behind mice, I guess somewhat pessimistic take is they played the Jags close and they played the saints close and ofensive Lee speaking. Odell Beckham is we don't really have a guy who can cover him like James Bradbury is going to his darn best. He is, but he's just owed l. is a different animal than somebody like Julio Jones. And on top of that, the Panthers have been gashed by second-string running backs over the last week. So I imagine saquon Barkley is gonna hits into, so that's that's why I think it'll be closer than we expect, but I still think Maslin pull it out. So there you do point out that the saints had a physician lead from the halfway through the third quarter for the rest of the game. So the giants really hang with them all well. I mean to possessions for them is pretty good. The saints defense is bad. It was close. I expect that way. Yeah. But when you when you think about it, what was it a fourteen point lead? Is that why you said to possession, they kicked a field goal or touchdown on nineteen to seven, halfway through the third quarter and in the giants field goals. Okay. Well, and it was. So it was a nine point. It was at least nine point three, that's three possession game, Natasha. I, if we're talking about Mike Shula offense, nine point leads three possession. They had three possession lead the most of the second. But I did like I think our offense is better than the Jags cause Blake, Bortles just doesn't add like Balsam weeks. So like that was a low scoring game. And it was more just because the Jaguars. One hundred percent like matchup base offense. Like if they played bad defense, they will tear it up, but they play good defense. They're just completely incompetent. The giants have do have good defense so that that's type of game. The Jacksonville struggled with like that against Tennessee also for them. The giants against good offenses have not done so good, but I have the Panthers really an offense like the saints right now. No, but we're better than. Not quite as efficient, but they're close. Yeah, and they're better than better than Jacksonville at Houston or offense. The one that the two, the two key differences. We don't have a receiver like Micheal Thomas, and we don't have an office coordinator like Sean Payton nor Turner's. Great. I'm not saying the north Turner isn't great, but you know, and as much as I hate Sean Payton because he looks like he swallowed an asshole. I got stuck in his mouth when he tried to spit it back out. I really, I really hate that. But anyway. Paying as much as I hate Shawn Payne is a on offense of genius. Like he's one of the three best offense of minded coaches in the NFL he could win with just about anyone. I think if you put Sean Payton on any of the thirty two teams in the NFL he would win with them. We don't have. Yeah, we don't have that, but we've got potential pieces that could one day be that like we don't know what we've got with DJ more yet. He could be as good as Michael Thomas. He might also flame out. We don't know yet. But we've got the quarterback. We've got the running game. We've got the tide in. We just we don't have. We're like more like a poor man's saints. Offense. To further Sean Payton point image Obree's have to like as do have the worst, just like minor ticks that they do that. Are he most fearing things watch Sean Payton's lips that it'll faces always making and drew Brees incessantly licking his fingers in adjusting shoulder pads. Whenever he doesn't have the like. Locking around and grabs shoulder pads because shoulder pad looks. The other thing is is it's it's there to watch like completely on related. I would hate to see a microscope like microscopic look at his tongue in his fingers because there's no telling how much bacteria and disease and all kinds of shit lives. Because, like you said, he licks his fingers like every seems like every thirty seconds heated against us. He can play and he did that thing where he like leaned forward as far as he could in clapped his Hello broke. And he would look fingers like before clapping, his hands on huddled break as he stood on the sidelines and windbreaker on drew. What are you trying to do. Oh, and I also forgot. We're, we're not quite as good at the saints because we don't have tastes. I hate that, man, I don't even. I don't even hate him for who he is. Just even last week. They brought him up on like the snap where he was just in the wildcat and they brought his name up and I just wanted to rip my hair out. I was like, God, damn it. Stop talking about taste hill. We get it. He can run. He's a quarterback, we get, he's white. He's not Cam Newton, understandable. Leave it alone. Sometimes I think sometimes that Joe buck and Troy Aikman get paid by every like reference that they make taste in hill understand. We have never seen a backup quarterback. Third string quarterback that also play special teams play as an offense of skilled player. We've never seen such thing before. Yeah, no, it's never happened before. Literally, you know, Joe web didn't exist. I think I think that's what makes it more infuriating for us as fans relative. Maybe other teams that he's basically Joe Webb and Joe never got like even a passing mention as a backup quarterback link specialties. That's kind of cool. He also filled in the bills. He's he's wild them for Brett farve for the Vikings and beat the eagles on prime time, and nobody talks about him tasting hill. Yeah, like he's actually had success quarterback it. Is it just me or does. Is it just me or does it look like Joe Webb looks like he should be named, tastes hill tastes. Joe Webb. Yes, yes. Like maybe this just be, but maybe not. You're not. You're not wrong. Web is totally a white guy. Well, so Joe. Joe Webb my my autumn Akanik. Joe Webb literally sounds like your auto mechanic that gives you shitty advice on what to do about your brakes is it does. I could get you some new brake pads, but I mean, like just throw these things in here. I'm sure your new break, your old break, fallacy, fine. You know. Totally replace your engine is the bigger problem here. Just just just start stopping tutor, just hit the brakes hard before you stop. That seems like a good idea. Oh, man. Do we have anything else we wanna touch on for the good. Yes. I think you have to give some wisdom, but other than that. We can just. You're not prepared or you Brian. So. Fans. We apologize for Brian's lack. This is gonna probably be coming off the top of said, hey. Cook my auto mechanic partway that would have been a good one. Later. Football. For the touchdown. Took it in time. Second. 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Hour 4: 2/19/20

The Paul Finebaum Show

32:24 min | 10 months ago

Hour 4: 2/19/20

"Great News there's a quick way you can save money switch to Geico Geico could help you get great coverage at a great price and it only takes fifteen minutes to see if you could save fifteen percent or more on car insurance go to GEICO DOT com today and see how much you could save the pack and then pageantry of College Football Leaves Keer the Paul Finebaum. Show our four podcast. Welcome back final. Hour is live and we are delighted that you decided to stick around with US really good. Show fantastic guests. Mark Richt among them Rick Bragg. And apparently nick does not like what's going on here Crunchy CROTCHETY old. Nick has Said that a cubes and Bram star running my tweet for firing both Pau. We've got some damning nick right. You got to the the rules in this scenario. You're not about to turn this into every apprentice or you you fired. You're not allowed to call the show Bam Nick Anyway. I know now. We're just firing letting everybody know that you're fired three words for you. Lose this number. You know since brands has come on the show. Things have definitely spiced up. Okay John is up next. Hey John how you doing? I'm doing well. Thanks for the call off the top I I would prefer you guys leaving my My Yeah I'm becky alone up there we will. I'll act thing. That is sad. I I live. You have some predeliction to Yankees who made no no no decided jam. Thank you you got it. I got some yams in that so You know You were talking about Mike Shula but followed him over Paul fee cafe Alabama's cow because one that about three or four four coaches at job down. No no yeah. Here's your situation. Shula was a mid a mid spring replacement. Remember Mike Price was the coach. Mike Price was fired before ever coaching a game. He did survive for the spring game. The three finalists were Richard Williamson so Vesta croom in my Shula. Well that's right because they can't they should have hired cook. Yeah no there. There's no question it would have been such a It would have been historic higher. It would have been really good for the school and and I don't know if this croom would have been any more successful at Alabama than he knows at Mississippi state but he was the right choice at the right time and All the things that that the hiring of Shula represented We're in a front. I think to We're that state was at the time. Well you know. I love listening to you. Show and I I. I've got a one more about ricky stories. Assure one Williams was the mission and he wanted to get away from wanting to go out and see what if he could land somewhere else he wanted to get away from. Home is grandfather on both sides and grandmother on both sides and his mom and daddy all the way from Michigan so he makes the trip down because he really so. I really really wanted to see what over and coached I was. He was a big fan of coach down so down there and he he was going but he said he would let him told him he's letting the next day he went to Alabama. And you know he said when I was you know who recruited him in Michigan. All now lost miles. Oh did he really. Wow yes and he said last cared me all over campus and you know he said you don't know what it's like where the the this whatever they already know. Yeah Yeah that jacket around on Game Day and and you know play in the Rose Bowl and he said you just don't know that's you belong here. And he gave him the big speed. So he got the Alabama and I forgot who was brother. Beal sure take him out and he said for for forty five minutes. I'll bet the man said national championship hundred. That's amazing and he said okay here. I've got rose and here out got national championship. And he said my grandfather toll made asked me when you graduate because associated was going to. He said what kind of car did you want. He said I want a boss. Three hundred two Green Bay. He said okay. They waiting for you when you get so. He says he got back home after about five days and walked in. And he said we're GRANDAD GRANDAD he said. Oh He's over there and in the garage sale He said I walked over there. And knock down the door and granddaddy come. Who said I got caught? He said he that he said he opened up garage door. Paul and he said was a nineteen seventy seven. Allow a great story. Well Hey John thanks for sharing. It really appreciate it. Jeff is up next in Columbus Ohio. Now I have to ask key. Biak something here. Yes go ahead did you. Not Tell me that We had a call from a fan of chef yesterday. We did and I'm actually waiting for this person to call in San. It was the jeff is the best caller on the show right now and this is coming from high praise from page fifty four. Gm from Tuscaloosa page you that complement. He would love to talk with you. I'm hoping he calls in shortly. I I mean I always liked him. I mean come on Paul. What would you rather have a dull boring monotone caller? Like all the or Greg. Basically all they do is suck up to the host or do you want like a knowledgeable collar that challenges you every once in a while. Jeff you know the answer to that I want to suck ups. You know. I don't think you do. I think you like favorite caller is Paul. I love your show. I don't ever leave. I made because you know if your challenge fall then you can play to your base. I mean you're the master base here talking to me like I'm the I'm running for president of the United States. I don't have a base. Oh Yeah you do. You never played better than the during the urban drama. Oh that's true by the way I know you did. Let's be honest. I mean the last decade. You put the national show and I've never you you you're good a plan. Take that national perspective and playing back. Your Bay base based politics that's rice. Hey speaking of the Kubiak. I don't think that's a northern or southern thing. And all with you. The AC it's Notre Dame thing I mean people around here don't like Notre Dame Fans Paul he likes Notre Dame. No they're pompous arrogant. I mean then admit a WHO. Is this an Ohio? State fan calling. Somebody pompous and arrogant. Yeah all right thanks. I may soon as you start losing it. Because you can't get kids into your top academic standards. That's the way you go you're right. I agree with everything you said. I put is shy. Shot at me right exactly. I mean hey and also you guys like to throw around the Yankee word a lot. What's the word I can call? Southerners that kind of equivalence to a Yankee. Can you help me out cracker? I'd Hillbilly hold on. There's a difference between hillbillies and rednecks. I can assure you I know. I mean based on past history. Yeah but I mean. Let's be honest pause. You stir up these. I don't except for the guy from Pennsylvania that called in and was cracking on others. I don't hear that many call in and then it gets but into these Yankee You know these these these typical Yankees. I don't see it. Well THE JEFF. There is a difference. I mean how often have you heard someone call in from Ohio quiet serene? How're you just want to say? Usually people call from Ohio. Raise their voice. But isn't that boring? I didn't say whether you always tell them. Go ahead hammerhead. We had a guy yesterday calling complaining about the officiating in the Clemson loss. I did hear that and I love the way. He spun that by the way. I've been over that this the end of January two three weeks I did I did but anyway but anyway I. I don't see where that we're the whole were. This all originates from amazing. Jesse been on for three minutes and you have not attacked. Espn that's all those call okay. I won't attack them first. Fbi rating came out yesterday. Yeah probably wrong. And what is the first in? First Out Paul. That happened yet already is in his basement right now about to spit that out. He's got he's got the hostile yours. Joe Girardi on ESPN. I mean it's just fair critiquing guy like a hostage cam on him. Yeah I mean it's just it's just fair critique real Canada putting minorities based on I mean I swear any Patricia. Hearst had better video of her when she was kidnapped forty years ago then then Lunardi has right now. He's on sportscenter right you still. I mean he must stay in that base but he probably does. Based the morning Kuyper Kuyper Kuyper still around. Every day for has a Kuyper. It's Wednesday I've got the new the new. Nfl draft release. Danny canals around sadly danny has left the building. I don't know what happened. I saw Danny couple years ago to game. I don't know where he is what he's doing. I hope he's well. I missed Danny all right well. Hey I guess he was dating gyms too because he tells it like it is and he's not afraid to challenge the world has come to when when Jeff and GM are now bff's at puppet of new world or do world order. It's sad I had all. The criticism of this show is now accurate that this show has gone straight down the toilet. We will be back with more of your phone calls after this. You're listening to the Paul Finebaum. Show podcast let's get back to the calls. Casey's in New Jersey. How Are you Casey Paul? Happy New Year Near fifty fifty days away from the masters didn't realize I just to give the listeners. A little Preview incite Two players in particular One is really not going out on a limb picking him. But he's a fifth favor on the Board in Alabama Kid Justin Thomas. We all know we is these plus eleven hundred and He he's had a great history at the master's is yet to win. Obviously but he's very much in contention and his game is obviously in good shape number one on the Fedex Cup points list right but there is a second name Paul For the people out there that are interested in this. That plus thirty three hundred. He was in the last group last year in the last round he finished second and he's got two top tens including a second three weeks ago in Phoenix. That's American Tony Fee. Now he's Great. He's he's trending very. I'm surprised he's at thirty three hundred Casey. I don't mean to jump on your numbers but don't you think law early Doobie Handicapping Masters Field. Well to believe it or not you know they change weekly. You know you look the physical condition of these guys as they head to Augusta especially tiger this year. I don't like it I was on his band wagon last year even though I wasn't smart enough to bet on them But you know. Clearly he was trending in the right direction. Going into the event and And be found his form over the weekend. You'll man that it was a bad one. I think he's I think he might be a little injured. I mean that's hearsay. I agree looked a little He looked a little like timid. Threw the ball Even walking it didn't look like he had a stroke but that that's actually just hearsay. I mean he shot sixty nine hundred now in In New Jersey right now. Are you able. When was the last round? You you completed. I got it well in New Jersey She's I play January tenth. Okay like sixty degrees here but I got I got away for Florida for a week but yeah no golf here. There's golf soon. I was just trying to see what the if it's gotten any warmer than the last time I visited We've had To be honest with you we've had no snow. We've had three inches of snow. The whole winter Average temperature this winter. Probably Forty five degrees but Casey sadly sadly I think I saw that snow. So yeah you didn't miss much but I'm glad you're back in Charlotte. The only healthy and we'll thank doing great. Well you stay in touch and as we get closer to the peak of the golf season we will talk to you again. Thank you very much. Casey always great to have you on. let's talk to Gill in Kentucky. Gail thank you good afternoon. You're talking about hush puppies. Yes well my momma who was a fine southern lady Tennessee Talked me to cook when I was a child. Really but yeah. She's figured she figured as meaning ugly as I would care myself but She You've heard of southern fried chicken. Of course okay. Well you sudden fry fish so you take your fish delays and they can be whatever you want codfish Catfish Brim and scored eliminated room. And you pull the people eating around. Oh yeah okay. Yeah when I was a kid we used to go. Fishing and Brim was what we call it and going. Nobody's going to eat this but yeah I'm Brian. We're blue yellow or pumpkin country. You're from their great D- shaky fillets and squirted lemon drop them in a bowl with milk or buttermilk. Whatever you like okay. And then you take a all oil hot and so you got your bitch delays in the drink and you may be a dredge. Take a pan and you put corn meal and a little bit of flour and all your spices in there and mix it up it's your blazes soaked for about five minutes. You take him out of drink. Drag them through the dredge gives them a little coding and drop them in the oil. And you're from up well after everything's done you've got milk. And you got this dredge sitting there let it over and good country boys. Don't WANNA waste anything. That'll before the milk into the dredge cracking egg in it make a six batter spoon that into the oil and you got hooked up. He's home my goodness I have no idea. That's how they were made. It's the leftovers from the fish and that is fascinating. Hey listen you obviously have eaten will. My waistline would attest to that up. You've had a great time doing it though. And it's it's an honor of your mom so There's nothing wrong with that. All right thank you. Thank you very much. Appreciate that That was cool. Joe Is up next. Hello Joel Joey. There Joel did not answer. The bill got answer it only way to get on. Let's move on and talk to mark in Florida Mark. Hey there how are you I am well you? I'm doing so good if it was any better at the law probably but I was just Don't get me wrong now. I I was just thinking about our boy jets a very columbus. Yeah and he is obviously just happy with the way he turned out. Yeah I think that's a great way to analyze it. I mean some people you go look at that guy. Go guys never happy. He's maybe moody. Whatever I mean justice like the world the world is a better place because I was born and he has to pick out. What the Brando's gunpowder. He brushes his teeth with shoes. But I see that from a lot of people in that part of the country. You're right Mike Rochester and say Paul Up there in Ohio. I lived there for several years before I came down to live in Florida and I had the opportunity to Coach for in Briefly played four out Airports offense coordinator from northwestern and Notre Dame. Oh Wow Bob mcclay oh sure and I was just Really lucky in basketball coach was a guy by the name arrest Leach who was a little all American bowling green and Of course that's you know the the boys from Kentucky. You know the team to think of the name and yes fan Head coach for Kentucky. Stoops yes dukes boy I I I guess I need to get into another cocktail but I was GONNA say wait a minute. Give me one while. You're at it when we had the Scholarships reduced from you know like a hundred and ten to forty five or whatever ended up being. I think that really have a lot to do with leveling the play. Some of these. You know mid sized schools you know. They were able to put a lot more kids to work. You know if I could only stockpile so many kids you know but It seems to me that that really had a to do with you. Know leveling the playing field as opposed to social media and kids running impacts and whatnot. But I think that just had a big effect. Well that is a fantastic call Margaret. I hope you'll call again. We had we're heading to a break. We still have thirty minutes for you to join us on. What has been a really fun. Show much more after this. You're listening to the Paul Finebaum show podcast Welcome back glad you're with us. Oh let's check in next with Dana in Tennessee. Hello Dana Hello Paul how are you? I'm well thank you very much. So you said There's a devers Puna redneck and hillbilly. What's the difference? Well I know well too so I can preserve my job here for at least a few more days. Why don't you answer the question? Well I read an echo go to jail over it. And he'll billy just works. Pass off of. I liked that. There's the truth pretty accurate. You're absolutely right. I mean there is One common expression in people can. I don't mean this Pejoratively is that Hillbilly means that you. Are you come from Hill Country True? That's often associated with places that have mountains true or hollers gorgeous. Yeah rednecks Yeah I learn living in the south my entire life that Rednecks don't take that personally. They they take that as a badge of honor absolutely. Yeah and I you correct me but I think the definitions rednecks you get. The phrase comes from working in the sun all day today. Yeah I mean I think too. Often we we referred to that In a negative way which on them. Yeah exactly exactly thank you sir. Thank you for saving me too by the way Let's I don't even know where what we're doing. Kramer is up next in Starkville Mississippi. How you doing? We're really well. How are you wanted might lead offense that date of being compared to Lsu's recent offenses path? Even well I think he's got the right quarterback getting the transfer in from the West Coast and I think that's a really a great start. I I I think Mike Leake Michael. Each could walk down the street And see eleven kids playing football on dirt field and probably Be Able to drop a couple of pretty good players. Uh Truth right there. Oh what do you where do you see at the end of November? You see beating beating the reds nick. Volunteers I I mean right now. I think this'll be state will enter the season with a better team Do you kN- I just don't know. What Ole Miss is GonNa look like underlain? It's gotTa be interesting for sure. He he Where we talked to him on National Signing Day. He was not very happy on. How do you say Mike Wage Utilizing Colin Hail Kinda like how coach? Oh did cloud you know Edwards hilarious. I think so I am on Crave. I. It's it's early. We haven't had chance to talk to coach. Since the day he was hired. We look forward to seeing him. But he's he's such a great offense of mind and he has done Probably more with lesser talent than any any coach in the country. Great to have you on. Thank you very very much. Mike is in Kentucky. Hey Mike you Remember Mike. Is this the Bryce Young Mike? Yeah this on my ball. Hey Look I didn't come back to your show to go down a bumpy road with you every day and I don't think you would. You would appreciate that so I thought about it and I've picked a subject today though. I think we can both agree on. Okay dogs. You're a dog lover. Cry I I don't want to say I'm any different than the next person who loves dogs. Yes most people are. Well I wanNA tell you about my new hybrid dog Paul Okay. I have one of the only six in existence. It's a new hybrid dog. It's a little bit aggressive. It's get a little bit of a dangerous breed. This dog killed seven chickens. The first week I got him. That's why I was out of New York. Not An auspicious start. Well I you know. He's a little on the aggressive side. Man I mean. Most dogs like chicken but most of the major. My dog prefers being served chicken out of a can then going out and and this waiting for but this this new breed. I'm telling you about thoughts and tell me about it okay. It's not. It's not recognized by the American Kennel Association. We call him. Saw Pit Bulls around here. So off pit bull. It's has pit bull half shifty looking what was that. What was the second phrase Shitsu? I never liked to say that after a drink on the air here. It's hard to pronounce it. You always feel like you're swearing when you say the name but it's looks just like a bulldog he's got three and a half inch leg. Yeah guess what his name is fall. I'LL GIVE YOU FIRST WORDS. Bull Bull that word second word begins with a S. and ends with a T. Okay your roll tide. You have rows actually a better call than the tongue of Loa take the shows off the rails but we will be here until the top of the hour. Andy is up next. Hello Hello Andy. Thank you Paul. Very well talked about rednecks hillbillies okay. You're right show I. I'm originally out of West Virginia and live in Katya Kentucky. Okay and a A hillbilly is a person lives in Appalachian region generally southern Appalachian region. That's considered a hillbillies historically ripe. The redneck term comes from the Blair mountain insurrection which is largest insurrection in US history. Besides the civil war attacking Blair Mountain West Virginia miners were have had a problem with owners who had hired recently discharged soldiers from the World War. One and they went down and pled their case in Charleston. Got Mad about it tied Red bandannas onto their necks. Got Their guns marched up to Blair. Mountain commenced have a small battle and the governor called out what was in the Army Air Corps or National Guard Air Corps and they dropped hand grenades on them from biplane than the only time that the the US forces of ever shot at their own people. That's an amazing story. Yeah it's called. The Blair mountain rebellious heard about that. Yeah that's where the rednecks started. Well thanks for sharing that moment in history homer what would you consider yourself how can shoot it myself and I proclaim the garage here on national radio and television made Pratt. Northwest Louisiana Notre Dame Loving. Re Nick that shotgun with tattooed on my chest. Oh Yeah Shotgun. Willie Jot Willie. Shits rounding is on the way by notable in for an ad. All these Kupuna Kuzak used to be my favorite because he got naked. That diamond to change. But I changed my brands. Get my new hero. He's my new rose now. I'm glad you got rid of that. Penn state trash well. We didn't get rid of John. Hayes I really don't mean that he left. He left on his own volition and we wish him well in the future endeavors. I do too. I wanted to ask you about being scared to ask you what happened. John I just called up one day and he has gone the The the fact is and we always deal in the facts. Yeah go ahead God stealing. That's what happened was he tried to steal Kubiak. 'cause everybody likes it. Can't you can't steal out of the vending machines get away with it homer? John John Left this company to go to work for the athletic. That is a good is the athletic Pay For a pay site that Pretty pretty much gives you the same thing you get for free on this show like athletic. What has a lot of athletes? The athletic is a collection of a bunch of former sports illustrated writer for the most part. Hey alike sports illustrated pretty much out of business in its in its current and former state and a lot of really good writers. But you pay to you pay to read it. Don't read it when I listen to you later. National End we do not charge you to watch or listen to this show it's free. We're working plan that will that will gals you to death. But it hasn't been announced yet. 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How this Doctor has Turned his Expertise into Multiple Income Streams. With Guest Dr. Michael Chua - 048

Streams of Income

33:54 min | 5 months ago

How this Doctor has Turned his Expertise into Multiple Income Streams. With Guest Dr. Michael Chua - 048

"They welcome to streams of income with self help author Ryan Rieger for the next hour. You'll hear proven methods for how to live. The multiple income streams dream. Ryan is passionate about helping others discover their gifts and start their own business is published five books in his courses and group coaching programs have changed the lives of thousands of students all over the world. Ryan's books include private label the Easy Way Finding Your grace place and his latest streams of income. And now here's your host Ryan Rieger. Hey guys welcome back to the streams of income radio show of your host Ryan Rieger and today I am chatting with Mike Shula. He's a friend of mine. One of my students. He is a physical therapist and has taken that knowledge and turn it into multiple streams of income very fascinating. If you are in a job, or you have a position where you deal with clients or you. Are Working one on one with people, and in order for you to make more money. You have to book more sessions. Get more clients or whatever listen to this, because this'll be very helpful for you and give you ideas on how you can turn that knowledge that specialized skill into multiple streams of income is Mike is done it. He's got books. Forces of mentoring groups pretty amazing. Couple podcasts super proud of him. He's just taking everything that we teach and implementing it I love hearing that I love success, stories and Mike and Stephanie. Will. Japan through with Mike Shula right after this. Have you ever totaled up how much you pay in finance charges to banks and credit card companies for cars, vacations, business, inventory and student loans. It can easily add up to hundreds of thousands of dollars over your lifetime, and you'll never see that money again. What if you could fire your banker and recapture all that interest? You're currently sending to banks credit card in finance companies. Well, you can by using the same time-tested bank on yourself. Safe wealth-building financial. Financial Strategy that I use. This strategy is actually better than paying cash and being debt free. If you're like me, you're only regret will be that. You didn't start using the bank on yourself. Strategy sooner go to your streams of income, Dot com, and find out how it can help you reach your financial goals and dreams without taking any unnecessary risks take advantage of free strategy session from a trusted advisor. go to your streams of income dot com. All Right Dr Mike Chu Welcome to streams of income radio. Man Appreciate you being on here. All right. It's my pleasure being in Radio Show, with Ryan Reader Gossiping. It's it's just my pleasure being here. On my pleasure, thanks for doing this with me. Really appreciate it. So you were. It was really fun. It was on your show. Tell me the show that you are That was the news channel. What was that? We blurred broadcast into the Philippines recently actually we, we guy because launch to make the long story short the current president, not the president, but the government in the Philippines decided to shut down one TV station there and the guy who is actually in that in one of those shows in that TV station said will if they shut down our TV station, the tuition I worked for why I should describe my TV channel. Just like what you always say, that's like what Ryan. Reader always say. Ladies and gentlemen in the middle of crisis license opportunity. Guy He said well. What if I start my own TV channel? I know the system I know the software and have he created his own channel. He registered the proper way, and now he has like he's goal is to do with twenty four seven. I think the channels running at eight hours ten hours now a day and he reached out to us. You know people who he knows he said. Hey, do you want to you know? Do you want to? Start, your own show and I said I have my own show already. Wow, well. How about if we collaborate and everything in I said Yes not knowing that there's there's a payment. Okay you have the TV station for to show producer. Yeah, already in so I said well. What the heck do this show? And basically we interviewed different people who have their own business in Yes, being awesome in in providing value. To the Filipino people in in that is cool, I know we WANNA. Get your story, but that's still fascinates me so they is it is that show like if I'm in the Philippines, can actually turn on my regular TV and find that pro those that Janice goal actually in school to be able to to. Rod cast that the word broadcaster in regular, not just cable, but the what's this. Antenna okay, yes, acknowledgee right. How that works I don't know you. Tell me about yourself Mike I know that your physical therapist so? How'd you get started doing that? A your front or were you born in the Philippines? Yes, sir, actually born in the racing the Philippines. Tell me your story when you came over here. And how'd you on physical therapy? And then we'll get into what you're doing now with all that and let to make the long story short. I came here in the states twenty eleven twenty, twelve. Okay, and I came here and I said that that company that sponsored me to work here in the states, said Michael you're going to be assigned in a memory care unit I said what is a memory care unit and they said well. You're going to be working with Alzheimer's and dementia and I'm like. What I know Alzheimer's and dementia, but it's just in the books sure. I'm like what is in the Philippines. We don't really have Alzheimer's and dementia. Read the book that said people there die young, because it's a third world country so and I got here I'm like Oh Gosh, what is this? I started researching and researching and realized that Alzheimer's and dementia is mainly underserve a population name here in the states, because nobody really wants to specialize on it, so I started specializing on it. Read books books some certification, and along the way I, just like Oh gosh, what do I need to do to keep serving this audience here so I said you know I reached out to you. Guys Know Ryan reader in the Dan Miller and. And they said Hey, you need to write a book about it that way. That could be your small little influence there. You know with your help with Dan Miller Sale I. was you know right a small book about it? And then Bam that's everything followed from there. You know from writing a book creating a course in no grading certification early creating a certificate, no having a certification course, and then having some live events doing that and then everything history so here I am now. Gosh, yeah, so you're as your physical therapy practice mostly with dementia, folks who are just or anybody. It's. It's funny. You asked that a lot of people will say don't niche down too much, but actually you have to niche down in order for you to scale up. When I started niching down I said I'm going to specialize in Alzheimer's and dementia. Guess what I get, people who will have hip replacement near a place. They don't have to mention, but because they think I'm the expert in that specific field I, get the flow of those other patient same thing with any other businesses. If you try to be specific with that with that specific niche you will get other overflow just. Right just like what you do, absolutely you know that's totally the case. I focus I feel like my I'm really called to reach that that dad especially who hates their jobs? I know you're not opposite position, but I'm sure there's physical therapists were like Gosh I'm doing this. It brings in the money, but I totally know that I'm not doing. I'm supposed to be doing, or it's like crazy hours. Hours? and they want something else. I really feel like I am directed towards that person who wants to build a stream of income online doesn't really know what to do knows there's opportunity out there, but doesn't know where they fit into that, and but then you're right then we'll have ladies, Ahmadi, student, I'm happy to serve the ladies and people of all ages doesn't matter to me, but. It's best to definitely focus on a specific niche. An ideal what we call Avatar is a person who you're. You know you feel like you're. That's your person that you can. serve the best sensually. Yeah, that's the word their Avatar. You WanNa serve that specific Avatar? Not a movie or something. I think old right you know. I. Was? On, your website, you have four different books. Is that right now in ones including journal? Yeah actually like what we always say you know. Your book is more like your. Your your initial business card like what Ryan would always say, Ladies and gentlemen if you're watching here on a replay or and alive, I have a discard here, and they give out to most of my clients, or my patient and I. Don't have my actual book right now, but it's my daughter's book. So what would the patient keep? Would they keep this? This card or this? Actual book is what I. I have physicians that I've marketed at I would still go to them after two years in three years, and they're a member me, not because of my business card, but there are a member of that book that gave them like two or three years ago, and it's still there and their desk. Just because it's in their desk, they see oh. I got Michael here. Let me send him. some patients here right as in that, and that's the beauty of of Ryan's program or whatever program is. Doing right now. You gotTA CHECK OUT HIS PROGRAM BECAUSE I've learned a lot from this Guy Ladies and gentlemen, so you got to check. That guys. This is definitely not meant to be a commercial for what we're doing here, but It's fun to talk to somebody who's taking what we do. What we talk about in implemented successfully in his business. He's talking about the build your income streams group that we have. There's a free facebook group and also a paid side of it to Put the link in the show notes just go to. To streams of income radio DOT com so tell me you were doing you wrote the book. And then you also have courses in about specifically the names of the books in late how that went to the course and then the groups that you have an? It's just fascinating me how you've taken you basically all the things gene I talk about. It seems like you're implementing all of them with live events. Like your every single one of them. Essentially you have a you have something in those slots. Yeah. It's so fun! It's so funny that you mention that because The key here is just following what Ryan is teaching you ladies and he's got all this resources in this radio in this in his podcast, and even this online stuff whether it's free or paid, or you need to do is just take action in I. Follow what Ryan in in Jenny. Did so they? What they told me write a book Michael and from the book creed a course you know created as a powerpoint like Oh, I mean I. It's. I can make this. POWERPOINT A- recorded in zoom are recorded in zoom. I I did the recording stuff, but it's so boring so I did okay. Let me try a live, Webinar. Yeah, we'll Webinar at first. I did a live event. Okay, and my I live event sucked. It was like Oh gosh I me. I can't even imagine they paid me. They paid us three hundred dollars or a live event. There were like I think Not even twenty people really I was just reading the slides. But, here's the thing ladies and gentlemen. If your product, if you launch your first product and you were disappointed, you're not launching your product. Being perfectionist, you gotta get out there and just put it out there ladies and And from there on I started that in I said like what Ryan mentioned before. If you can do this on your own try to network with other people, that's what I did. I called other therapists than I called them. Hey, do you mind the sharing stage with me and we create a live event in everything, a C class. This said Yeah. Why not you know what Ryan I thought they knew what they're doing. They didn't know what they were doing either. We just went out. There promoted in the nursing homes assisted living and we were like Oh. Gosh wouldn't know what we're doing, but the key. Here's your learning. You're learning along the way, and then from there on everything is like getting contracts with different associations in talking about it in now is everything is online now so while you're course What's your main is there? You have one main course I'm on your site and it looks like there's like eight different things there. the main course that we teach is to Alzheimer's disease and dementia. Care Seminar. Required course to be a certified dementia practitioner so basically that's the main product that I sell two different assisted living, different nursing homes and associations. Okay throughout the country in I talk about that brilliant. Okay, so who's the client for? That would be assisted living centers their staff essentially Okay so from there I. Educate Them I tell them. Hey, will first of all we go to the book. Were you want the book? It's like a free book and downloadable e book, and then if they want more physical product, they get the physical book. It's like three dollars something in Amazon, and then from there we have that actual small course like thirty, seven or forty seven dollars. And in if if they want more RUPE! We have that two hundred forty seven dollars, saying the certification course that I just mentioned Alzheimer's Disease in domestic or seminar and if they want more. To open up their own business their own dementia. On business, dementia expert business, there's just thirty five hundred program that we teach in a in other website, so alternative healthcare careers love it. Okay, so the break this down so that you went through a lot of stuff, so you're. Guys think through this You don't have to be physical therapists. You could probably be in mean literally any. I mean is obvious one because of the it's. It's easy to identify with what he's doing because that's that's his field and but it could be any business that you are. You have knowledge of specific knowledge and you may went to school for that, but you're only stream of income is just that one thing you're seeing patients. You're seeing clients whatever that might be. Here's his model. He's doing that still doing that, but now he has a book which will get him more clients because he's now the expert, so if I'm a physical therapist and I'm going to try to find clients, and all I have is a business card and I'm up against Dr. Mike Chu who has a business card and he's got a book while clearly, he's the expert because he's the one that wrote the book. Even though it's possible, I know way more than he does. But I'm not the one with the book and he's He's got that the credibility. Of having that book, and now he's also got a course, and he's also saying you know what if you want to have your own business like mine? I want to train you how to do that and here's that coaching program to have your own. Training Program Right Yep brilliant all. I did that all because of Ryan's master-plan FBI. Acceptable. So coy eleven finally. Somebody's doing what we said to do and it works. I know it works. It's actually a real blueprint, so let's go breakdown what you mentioned about that master-plan letter. Him is actually a meet a knee bright. It's right attorney or meet a niche you know. Find that specific niche that you're trying to serve. In my case, it's physical therapy. Yes, what physical therapy! Still big? I found Alzheimer's and dementia. Because I'm passionate about it my current student right now. He's a surfer. He said I'm going to buy your course Michael Okay. What's your I want to serve? So he's going to be sir. A physical therapist for surfer love it, so he's going to be like ficials surfer dot com and we already formalized it. do a book. Okay, and he's going to create a course out of it. Okay? How improve your balance as a surfer? They need balanced though surfers. Your core known anything about that. Me To right. And then what else I said he's name is fancies named Lee Richards okay. I said maybe man. You can do a certification course by Lee Richard. Yes, Richard Certification Course for surfers absolute Bam. So just follow Ryan. Sir Master method in everything will flow through. You know yeah, because there's no way that you can. Like. I will say there's like so I'm a physical. Osama physical therapist and I'm trying to do the same thing that you're doing I am in a way. I'm competing with you, but I'm just public. Going to identify with different people, I'm going to have different people that are attracted to me versus you for whatever reason maybe I say things and they understand it. They hear you and they don't quite get it or some people just need to hear it seven times and AH geysers. There's so much opportunity. Don't look at what he's doing and say. Oh, you know what he's already done it. I'm I'm a physical therapist. Therefore, that's. That's already done I gotta go into another niche. He Niche down to dimension. He's got. This guy is in doing it for surfers you could get. He could probably get even more niche, your surfer friend, and say just guys and okay, just guys. Who are you know fifteen above? Because? Maybe that's his age group and he feels like that's who he can really help the most. Is he going to say no to somebody like me? Who's not quite demographic? No, probably not, but He knows who he's really going after, so the brilliance of what you did, was that train the whole certification program or central? You're kind of White labeling or private labeling your whole program and have another people buy into that they get your your whole training methods and they're going to. Make that applicable to their niche, and you're able to then essentially prophet over somebody else's with somebody. Else's ideal audience in audience. You may never have touched. A surfer's is probably not something you ever would have gone after even thought of, but now you're able to help your essence or able to help surfers as well through your certification program. That's so cool. I. Know You mentioned about that What if somebody wants to do? My dementia thing to well guess what in inside the class that I teach to certified the measure. Practitioner class. I even teach them how to sub niche in our own niche because to Alzheimer's. Dementia Niche alone. There are some sub niches. So what I told some of our some of my students there every every month I run that class. We have like average of fifteen twenty people. One, person would be like. Michael I want to teach people how to. Dance will that's a specific niche already. In an Alzheimer's alone. Another lady that actually develop a an MP three device. That they can put in develop a product silent, disco. On this go for Alzheimer's and dementia patient, and she goes to of course right now. They're not doing it right, but. She would go to those different assisted living nursing home, and they pay her pop money rate this to a music to the spacious ear while it's down and then salad disco. And that's our niche alone. There's a whole as a sub niche underneath it. Another lady inside our group She wanted to conduct. LGBT okay now beat because she is lgbt. She said Michael there's nobody serving the patients who are LGBT astonishing dementia community I said Yeah Oh now, and she's serving, and now she she she lives in Florida, and now she's doing inservice training training people about understanding LGBT in Alzheimer's and dementia. There's always a sub niche there easy. How do you decide those things like I know it's sometimes it's a process and just going after it like somebody might go after just the whole dementia, a niche and be like you know what. I'm not gaining any traction. I needed you just Kinda, go through to go through by doing it and figure it out, but. It for somebody. WHO's thinking Gosh I would love to take my knowledge and turn it into a course of book training program like you're doing. That's a great question. There Ryan. Like what you always say, find that passion find that passion. What are you really passionate about ladies and gentleman? In what is your purpose? It's the three piece like what the Dan Miller our coach. Always say the three piece find that passion and purpose. Why are you doing this? Why are you doing? Are you doing this just for for your own glory, or are you doing it, are you? This is enough, and the profit will follow the profitable follows just like a three legged stool is not going to stand you take off one. It's GonNa fall break all. That's awesome very good. What about the book process I know a lot of people be like? Oh, my Gosh! That sounds like a just a Gargantuan effort to write a book. How did you go about doing that? Gosh you know when I first started writing a book. A lot of people would say. You gotta sit down to write a book Michael Well. I started listening to Ryan and Dan Miller, and you can record yourself on the phone. Cooking. So you listen to yourself ladies and gentlemen. You listen to yourself and you try to listen. What are what am I always talking about? Are you always talk about cars? Are you talking about specific part in that car and try to try to record yourself and tried to record yourself, and that's what I did. When I started writing my book, I said let me record myself when I'm talking to this patient in that way I'm talking about Alzheimer's and dementia and from there on. I have a book because of that recording second thing. Br Ryan already mentioned it no secret to all their skuld private labeling. Is. Private labeling, you can reach out to Ryan and ask him about private labeling your book, you can buy Nass somebody to write a book for Great and you know they can. If you have a blog poster ready. If you have a blog or podcast in your in your own niche, you can make that s your own book already. So and you have A. You have a three PODCAST, right? Yeah I have because of that. It's crazy I've networked with other people. So, you know if they have A. if they are available, they do it and if I do, it's called networking. That's right. Have a network of people that will help you out. Yeah us, you mean you You don't have to worry about if you're not available. At somebody can show up for you, so that's huge. Networking has been huge in my business. There's no way I'd be anywhere near where I am my business. If it weren't for folks, I've met. partnered with mentors like Dan Miller Jim Cochran just. You got to get out and meet people. That's. Now tell me okay, so I know that take A. Different Direction 'cause your wife, and mainly your wife. Right runs the physical product side. Your Business Tell us. What does that look like you know what? I had a patient before. Before Jim Cockram will I think we had Jim? Ready. We bought your course the the that course. Proven Amazon. And my wife, I said okay. bye-bye this product and she's like. I really do this. Yeah Ryan is already doing it and everything. And then so she started watching that course and everything, but she never really got pushed until I brought her to one of my patients My patient actually got mad at me. Because I told them he was mad I said what's wrong. And then he said I'M GONNA pay a quarter, twenty five thousand dollars or something like that. Five thousand dollars in taxes Michael I said what's wrong. Your blood pressure is high in everything instead. I'm going to pay twenty five thousand dollars in taxes Michael why? and. He said well I earned quarter of a million last year. I said, what were you doing? I sail DVD's online. Wow, you would buy stuff DVD's. The one in Walmart and resell it in Ebay. That's when I started looking up all your stuff and I said this patient of mine can do with sure. My wife can do it, too. That's what I bought her there and she started okay. I think I got an early implement the proven Amazon course in. Doing Online. What is Your Business? What's her business? Look like because I know. Everybody's business looks different. What's she picked quickly? you know what's our main inventory in? With it. She actually bids on nine hundred dollars, a bidding bidding area. Okay, and then they will deliver it in our house. If you see our garage managed, it's likely will. Then returns and things yeah, okay, and then flip it for profit, you know. She started with selling stuff in house. You know my clothes or clothes, my shoes and like I'm still using the shoes. And like. I mean now. We've got a sales staff, so she got addicted. Watching all your stuff, right? We I mean I know. It's weird, but. You see all those books there. There was a time. I got some books here. On this side here, there's like a stack of antique books biggest. She Watch those book. People in the proven Amazon core. Eh, you gotTa buy this book from like she was like buying books left and right speaking of books. I mean yesterday we went to a flea market. Look what I saw. And Gosh Yeah Gaelic Carnegie for a dollar. Yeah, so I bought it into. She'll probably resell this when I'm done so Yeah, you can get your money back and make more probably. Make a profit on it after your Rita's. That's true. That's true. That's brilliant says she's doing liquidation and returns and things like that and flip it on Amazon and Ebay or mostly Ebay. Mostly Ebay Amazon is pretty strict. You know. Better. The EBAY has been very good to us to her. The, of course her flea markets. She rents the small space. Okay guys can google flea markets in your area. Ah, Rent Space for like twenty thirty bucks like a simple wall near. Your products there instead of just accumulating in your house and yeah art reselling imagine. I don't know what's her running rape or collection right now? There was time she had like ten boots. Wow, ten, whatever you call that boots or wall and she was collecting. Seven hundred sometimes four hundred per booth. Gosh, and she's not, even they're. GonNa elements. Somebody's they're. They're collecting the payment and this is the actual check already I can. We can show you the actual checked, so they will any got the rent from. That collects from that payment. They're already gotten their commission in. That's my wife's take paid. Of course, we still have to pay taxes, but. Still She's not doing anything I. Have to see patients. You're right. I still have to see one of the one treatment in the hospital or see my patients in the clinic. Her, she's just here at home doing that just bidding in the first day. Yeah, delivers the product every month and then comes back refilled her store. Oh. My goodness follow Ryan. Readers program also some of the. Some of on Ebay and some of us. She's taken over to the flea market Bruce okay. That's Awesome I. Are So many way popping were. So many different ways to make money online. You've got to find and she's doing that offline, too. So that's so cool. There's no excuse just get started. What would you say for will wrap it up here? What? Advice for somebody who feels like that. They're encouraged by listening to you. Talk and they. Maybe they are in healthcare field, and they're like Gosh I would love to. Kind of branch out and do something besides just seeing patients, and they WANNA. Follow your model. What would you tell them? A I to fall follow Ryan reader. You're in ripe website right now. Ripe Radio Station or follow whatever he's teaching. Because I only I we just followed what Ryan said. But when you're following somebody, you have to take the word fast F. A. S.. T. Better. If you gotta find France that will actually push you believe in you because you are. The average of the five people hang out with ladies and gentlemen. Find People. You know what I intentionally have to reach out to Dan Miller I intentionally have to reach out to Ryan Hey. Ryan can I have you on our show and intentionally reach out to me, so you have to find not just randomly friends, not just random France people that will actually going to believe in you next letter on the fast letter A.. You GotTA learn how to take action. Ryan provides awesome value in this. TV or retiree show radio show. But it's not gonNA. Do him good. It's not gonNA. Do me good. If you guys don't take action on it, all I did is I just took action. What Ryan taught me that the matter of influence, the coaching program that Dan Miller gave me the the silent Jim that the Jim. Conquering mentioned that we mentioned for from for my wife. All we did was take action. It doesn't have to be perfect. Sure you know. The imperfect. Action Beats Perfect in Action Ladies and gentlemen. That's what Ryan always tells me and even Jenny. Doesn't have to be perfect. Let's take action I know. We're running out of time Ryan. What the NRT T s when the word subscribe Sharon, subscribe to this show right sharing subscribe unless, but not the least letter ts teach it. Why biggest when you hear you forget. We see you're a member, but when you're actually teaching it actually understanding it more. That's what Ryan is doing with your. Teaching us how to be a better person. That's so true. How can people find you? Because? Let's say that I'm a physical therapist and I wanNA. Go through your training certification or learn more, or let's just say that you know. I have design. I was reading your bio and you said that you might. Your grandmother went through dementia. My grandfather did too so no, you obviously, you have resources for folks that don't want to create a business. They want to learn how to help care for their relatives of working folks find you. For people who actually wants to learn about dementia they can reach. The eight can go to my website Dr Mike Chu Dot Com, and if you're a therapist or under US or any health care practitioner Lewis actual looking for an alternative career, you can go to our website alternative healthcare career dot com. Awesome I'll have the link to the show notes guys. Mike thank you so much so much fun to have you on here and just I love seeing people who take what we teach and are implementing it and seen results because for me, that's by far. The best thing that can happen for somebody like me. Who teaches other folks to and you're? You probably can feel the same way when you have some student. The follows what you say and they in their seeing success. That's huge for you, and that just gives you a lot of satisfaction like yeah, that's why I'm doing this you. Know what accused. So trick! Thank you so much for being man Hershey. Thank you very much I appreciate you. You've been listening to streams of income with self help. Author Ryan Rieger from right here. In The Dallas Metroplex, Ryan teaches several entrepreneurial courses and group coaching programs to students all over the world. Be Sure to listen next week at the same time for streams of income with Ryan Rieger.

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'Valentine's Views' podcast: Bye week state of the Giants

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'Valentine's Views' podcast: Bye week state of the Giants

"Are you troubled by strange. Hockey trades in the middle of the night. Do you experienced feelings of dread about agency. Have you or your family ever seen it New York rylander scheme. If the answer is yes. Don't wait another minute. Pick up your mobile device and subscribe to Lighthouse Hockey podcasts. From espy nation today are courteous and efficient hosts Are Ready to serve. All of your islander needs and worries lighthouse hockey podcasts for New York islanders fans Hello giants fans ends and welcome to a new edition of Valentine's views. PODCAST here on Big Blue View. Radio I'm your host Ed Valentine of Big Blue View. Today's show is coming coming to you during the New York giants by week few days after they felt to an eight with a disappointing loss to the New New York jets. Were going to spend most of today just sort of reviewing the state of the giants not necessarily talking about that particular game for a few days away from that in here to to help us break down. All things. Giants is good friend. Patricia trainer. Patty how are things today. Hey Ed how's it going. We're in the bye week finally I let's make it a nice long rest in hope that we we come back in the giants. Come back refreshed and ready to go. Yeah Patty you know. It's the season for all intents and purposes in terms of trying to accomplish winning record record trying to accomplish any of those things you know. All all of that is is out the window. I think all we can hope for at this point. Is that over the next six games. We come away feeling in some way shape. Perform like the giants are making some sort of progress. Yeah I mean at this point. You're right the season is over. There's no chance of the playoffs There there's no chance chance that they're going to finish with a with a winning record So yeah what you WANNA see when they come back from the buys you WANNA see some progress you want to get an idea of what you have in some of these guys who may be having played as much during the first ten games and you just want to be able to go into the off season with a plan. How are you you can address this? Are you going to. You know make changes you decide. You need a new linebacker offensive Lineman et CETERA. So a lot of decisions and a lot of questions we need to be answered over these last remaining Games Perry. I guess we'll start with you know with the big question. I mean there were after losing to the jets on Sunday there were all all sorts of calls for Pat Shurmur head all sorts of speculation that that that Shurmur either might not make the season or might get replaced at the end of this season. And it's easy to kind of get get caught up in that emotion of the hours after a game but what when I step away from it and I think about it for a lot of reasons. I still believe that as long as he doesn't lose. Lose this locker room and have the players turn on him. I think that that there's every reason to believe that the giants would like Shurmur to continue in. US Their head coach into two thousand. Twenty yeah I agree with you. Know people are going to want to hear that but you know and Shurmur. It's not perfect but but what I think is going to have to happen is. You're going to have to be some significant changes. I don't see them. Keeping the status quo. I was was quite frankly surprised that when Shurmur was asked about staff changes he said. I don't intend to make any. I don't believe that you know. And I'm paraphrasing. Exactly what he said. Because you look at what's going on and and and you say how could you go with the status quo now from Shurmur perspective. He says look. I do believe we're making in progress. You know it's not showing up because you know a play here a play there and you can argue. You can look at some of the numbers. I've started to do that. And look at some of the numbers and try to look at some of the circumstances behind what has been happening to this team but the bottom line is there has to be some kind of growth. You can't have guys who less your look so promising now. All of a sudden they're they're taking a step backward. You can't have rookies. Were still looking like rookies. After ten games you can't have the same coaching mistakes. The in game management or the same mistakes being made with Miss Communications. Those are all intangibles that have to move forward. You have to see progress progress in those and I don't know that we've seen enough of that. No petty I would agree that we probably haven't seen enough. I think that you know going way back to the spring and the summer. I think this season was really couched in the vein of from John Mara from Dave Gettleman of not necessarily the number of victories. But whether we came out of the season feeling like things were moving in the right direction and I think after ten games. It's very difficult to say in any way shape or form yes. The giants are playing. A toner rookies. But it's just I can't point to any tangible project progress It depends on what you're looking at. I mean you can say that Daniel Jones. Even though he's been inconsistent he has been doing pretty well. You can make that argument even with the offense align I know a lot of people are screaming about the offensive line line. And how you know that line has looked like garbage of late but go back before saquon. Barclays injury do remember how we were all praising the offensive line and how much better better they look because Saquon was running for one hundred plus yards and they were able to pass a one hundred plus yards to one guy or whatnot. It all kind of started to fall apart with injuries. Injuries kicked in. And that's why you know I look at them and I say yes. The play needs to be better. And yes there are guys who are under performing. But you know you have it Kinda. Think outside the box here and say is it. Because they've set you know gone backwards totally or or is there some other underlying factor. That might be behind all this. I do think you're probably right. I mean say Kwan's injury Sterling Shepard. Evan Ingram being in and out of the lineup there are you know there are some reasons on offense. I think on defense the the lack of progress has been somewhat disappointing. But one of the things that I wanted to talk about. Patty is I've been saying for a while without really going player by player in in position by position I've been saying for a while that the roster per se is better than it was maybe middle of last year indefinitely better than it was when Dave gettleman took this team over at the end of two thousand seventeen I went through Pruitt this week at big blue view and in my in my view I think that perspective is right that the roster is better. It's not perfect. It's maybe maybe you can continue to argue that Dave gettleman in his roster moves hasn't gotten everything out of each roster move hasn't maybe used his capital as well as he could have but the baseline question for me is that I wanna ask you. Do you think this roster is better than it was a year and a half ago. Do you think there's reason to believe that. It's pointed in the right direction. I think in some areas yes and in some areas. No now if you want to break down real quick according to position I think they're better off off a quarterback running back. I think they're solid. I don't know what's going to happen with Sterling Shepherd at receiver so the jury still kind of out there but golden tate. The giants had been able to kind of get production out of him since he's returned so I don't feel horrible about that move. I do think the offensive line is better on paper now. I strongly suggest like I said that. There's been some injuries and between that and a lack of debt at tackle which I've been screaming screaming about for like I don't know how many years now you and me both at a bet. Yeah that has set a back. Defensive Line is definitely better edge rusher I think you you know maybe about the same. You Know Marcus. Golden has had a good year but Lorenzo Carter. You would have liked to have seen a little bit more from him and the defense is secondary in dairy. They've had their struggles. But there's some talent there to to be to work with so it's a matter of on paper. It looks better and I skipped over the off all linebackers that that unit you know once Ryan Connolly went down That you just kind of went down the tubes too so that would be the one area sorry I would say is is probably maybe worse than it was last year but on paper I think. A lot of the spots do look better to stay haven't harvested the production production and that's the problem and that leads us to the area that that you talked about a little while ago. And you said you know you can't stay okay with the status quo and look if you make changes with six weeks left to go in a season at this point. You're basically sort of putting lipstick on a pig. At this point. These guys have been working together in the same system with the same coaches since the spring their six weeks to go even if you blew up the entire defensive staff right now you're not gonNA put in a whole new defensive scheme to play the last six games. You're it is what it is so change at this point to me in some ways is I mean unless there's a dramatic reason you know to to make one. It's sort of like just doing it for show but I do think there have to be some changes when we get to the off season and where do you anticipate you know seeing those changes patty. Oh I think right off the bat you gotTa make some changes on the defensive side of the ball. The coaching staff as Becher the guy to lead this team you know you can make the argument mid that okay look. He had these great defenses in Arizona but was that because he was given this top shelf talent. You know to me. I've always believed that. A coach coach earns his keep by taking all types of talent and harvesting the best out of them and. I don't think we have seen that with this defensive coaching staff. We've I've seen this similar. Mistakes be made with communication breakdowns and it just makes me wonder what the heck are they doing in practice. What how are they teaching these guys? That after ten games he same stakes are happening time and again the other thing. I keep pounding the drum about and will continue to pound the drum on this patch. Shurmur needs to give up the play calling and adapt the CEO style of management. Too many in game decisions are being made that leave you say what the heck is he doing doing that. And you consider the fact that you know in addition to being an Enga- manager you also want him to to work with Daniel Jones. Which is why he was probably higher? We're to begin with and also be able to. You know have a say as to what's going on defense and on special teams. I think right now. He can't do that because he so so far into that offensive. Play call sheet. that he doesn't have time to to worry about that and he's now trusting his assistance to do that. Not really overseeing them in veto taught them as would be his right as head coach. You Know Patty. I've been kind of on the fence on that idea of Shurmur. Giving up the play calling. I been on the F- on the fence for a while but but I think you're convincing me at this point. I think I've come to your side because it's the the fact of the matter is it's just not working the way that it is. The offense isn't functioning the way that it needs to function. and You wonder sometimes if if that's simply because the head coach who's calling the plays can't be as invested in on a day-to-day basis as he might liked to be and in the end game management stuff. I think you wonder first of all. Who is he talking to before before he makes those decisions and you might also be right that if he's focused on the play calling and what is the next play? is He clearly thinking through how he wants to handle each situation. I sat and listened to him. Talk the other night after after the game and he. He got a couple of questions about why he used his timeouts with more than four minutes to go the other night and he didn't come right out and say he made a mistake but he came mount any said Yeah. I kind of wished I'd had those back. I kinda wish I had those you know in the last couple of minutes and then he said well he said he said once I committed into using the first one I just sort of felt like I had to commit and go all in but you just wonder if if maybe not calling the plays I would give him an opportunity to think more clearly about some of those circumstances yeah. I don't think there's any question that I mean. Look when was the last time we look at Shurmur and the place he calls who is governing him. Who is policing him? I maybe that's not the right word but the point Wayne is is the whole idea behind. Coaching is is you. Come up with a concept or play and the head. Coach has the right and we saw this with Tom. Tom Coughlin when he was here to lead into the headset and say no. I don't think that's the right play to go. In this instance much. Try this instead and you have have a discussion. Who was shoved discussing this with Mike? Shula Mike Shula sit talk until he's blue in the face of Shurmur is convinced that that's the way to go. You know what what's the point. There is none so i. I just think that you know you need to put a system of checks and balances in there and you need to make Shurmur that guy. Who Does the checks and balances and says to James Becher? Hey why are we playing to man defensive front against a heavy cowboys offensive line. Why don't we try this alignment instead or tell Thomas mcgahey? Oh you know instead of having to go to the left. Let's go to the right because you don't the have that because Shurmur I think is so invested. In what am I gonNa do when we get the ball. And he's not just worried about the next play he's probably thinking okay. Hey if this happens then we should do this this and this but if that happens we should do this. This and this so you have this whole spiderweb that develops and to me. The coach is it's just not managing the silent as efficiently as he could be. You Know Patty. I've thought about various head coaches around the league. And there there are head coaches. I think Andy Reid is the best example in the league right now of a of a guy who has had long term mm success being his team's offensive play caller. But the more I think about it I think those guys who have success assess long-term a guy who continues to be the play caller. Those guys seem to be exceptions. Because I think about the Bella chicks I think about the Mike Tom ones and I think about a lot of those. You know those longer. tenured coaches and Coughlin when he was at his best with the giants or guys who who have their their finger on the pulse of of the entire team. And it's just difficult to do when when you're trying to run one side of the ball it really he is and you know. Look it's Okay Pat to say I'm overwhelmed and you can't sit there and tell me okay. You're not overwhelmed. You're you dealing with a rookie quarterback who you're trying to to to bring along and groom and that requires experience a NPS. We'll talk about changes. I just I still say. They should hire a dedicated quarterbacks coach to coach this kid not somebody who kind of has the role that somebody you know not the head coach shoes. SCHUSS gotTA worry about the rest of the team where the offense coordinator discovery about the the rest of the offense a dedicated quarterback coach. But just getting back to Shurmur. It's okay to say. Look I'm doing too much. I need to delegate and I don't know if this is a trust issue with him maybe because who knows maybe he didn't get the the assistant coaches just that he was hoping to get. I don't know what what the matter is. Or maybe he just feels like I can handle it but the proof is in the pudding here. I mean he's he's he's had struggles and he's made some decisions that just leave you sitting there saying what the heck is he doing and it's costing the team. It is Patty Patty and as I said at the top. When we're talking about Shurmur I still think the organization wants him to succeed the organization? We know the giants as we know the mayor of family. We know how the giants have always done things they want stability. They don't like you know constant upheaval. We had had that a couple of years ago. I know they would like to avoid it as as long as possible so I would think they're going to exhaust all avenues here here we with Shurmur and I think we agree you. Some things have to be different. You talked about changes on the defensive side of the ball perhaps a different offensive line coach. Perhaps a different offensive coordinator one one. Maybe who has some past ties to this Shurmur one. Maybe that that he might feel better about you. Know and this is not a knock on Mike Shula but Mike Shula and Pat Shurmur had no relationship prior prior to Shula coming to the giants. So I guess the question is do you think that in terms of the offensive coordinator. Do you think that that someone that Shurmur has worked with before had a prior relationship. You know bringing someone like that in you know might be a good thing for patent pat and might help convince him to to step away from from calling all the players. I think that could very well be it. I mean you know. Look when Shurmur was hired tired he was asked. What have you learned from your first stint when you were in Cleveland? And he didn't go into detail. I went and I looked up. He didn't go into detail but he said you know if I had known some things things then that I know now I would do differently. He never said what but she wonder if play calling is one of them you know I know. He said he enjoys doing it. You know he doesn't mind doing it that he's able to do it. Nobody say that he's not able to do it. But when you have a rookie quarterback and you have a young defense and the young a young team that you were trying to especially team that you've turned over. That is a lot put on somebody's plate and you just wonder if it and you raise a good point it. Is it a matter of trust or not having that relationship with Mike Shula like he had with say a Kevin's defence gate right petty. Let's take a quick break for or a word from our sponsors here then. 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Alright giants fans were back here on the Valentine's views. podcast Ed Valentine with you and talking with Patricia trainer about the state of the two in eight New York giants as we as we go through the bye week Patty. Let's talk a little bit about you. Know something that that people have been talking about kind of gnashing their teeth about a little bit and I guess that's the fact that that we haven't since before the season we haven't heard from Dave gettleman and we haven't heard from giants Ryan ownership publicly to be for me. It hasn't bothered me that much to be honest with you. I mean what are they going to say at at this point but does it bother you particularly that that that the general manager hasn't at least at midseason in some fashion fashion. You know addressed the media. Well like you said what is he gonNA say he's going to say look. We're disappointed. The record isn't what what it has been you. You know we. We've had some injuries. I mean you could almost scrip. What he would say to the questions he would get? I mean you know. Don't get me wrong. I always enjoy talking talking with Dave. Even if it's just in passing and I would love to have the opportunity I wouldn't turn it down but at this point. What is he going to say that you know we haven't having already seen in you know? What can he say people are going to ask? smokey will what are you going to do to fix it. He how he can't fix it right now because you got to get through the rest of the season you gotta do your evaluations. You got to see how the rest of the League might be shaking out who might become available. Who's going to be available in free agency WHO's going to declare for the draft to so many unknown variables and I just don't know what Dave can say? You know what John Could Save for that matter other than you know. Sorry guys we we you know. We're not this isn't acceptable. And and we apologize that we're putting you through this. I mean that's really all they can say I think in and You know so. I don't know man I I I me personally. I don't have a problem with it I I'm not I'm probably one of the few like you. Re probably the exception rather than the rule but yeah. It's it's scary man it really really is but but But yeah what are they going to say at this point that like like I said we could probably skip the whole darn thing if they were to talk. It's funny because I used to actually actually do that. With Jerry Reese press conferences. I used to actually preview his press conferences by by going through and scripting. Most of the most of the questions he was going to get most of the answers he would give. I can't I can't necessarily do that with Dave though because he uses US crazy words that I'd never heard before he does. But but but you know just look the way I see it Ed ed. I would rather they'd be sitting in trying to figure out what they can do in the interim to get this fixed. I know. Maybe I'm being a little my even even saying this because they probably don't do this twenty four seven. I'm sure they take breaks and stuff for meals to sleep and whatnot but you know while I would want to get answers for my readers. I don't think what they would share would be substantial. You know it's it's like okay would. Would you force Pat Shurmur for example. Are You considering making a coaching change. Do you honestly think Dave Gettleman is going to admit to that even if it's if that's the case not not of course not patty. Let me ask you this question and you and I have talked about this. We know how angry giants it's fans are at this point. We know that that it's you know that it's they're tired of of years of of subpar football at this point. We also know that since Dave has taken over as general manager. There's one particular word he has refused to use. And it's what this actually is it's wet the giants are actually going through. And it's a rebuild. It takes time. It's painful painful. The tear down took a year and now we are as as much as the giants. Don't want to admit it fans don't want to admit it we're in the beginning stages of building it back up in your mind. Would there be so much anger. Would this be easier for fans to to deal with in. Would there'd be so much anger pointed at Dave Dave Shurmur and giants ownership if they would just acknowledge that they're in a rebuilt. I don't know that's a good question. I mean I think fans are you know. I think they're intelligent enough to see that. It is a rebuild. I think what maybe they're angry about. Is that gettleman. Ryan has said in the past you can rebuild and win at the same time. I don't know necessarily that is true. I think that was the hope but from you know look you've got to look at it also from a marketing perspective if get them and comes right out and says hey we're in rebuild mode the barking you know. The sponsorships will probably tropical dry up or or not as lucrative and you know. That's the bottom line whether we want to admit it or not but but yeah you know you make a good point. They don't want to admit it's a full rebuild and made this comparison in articles. It's kind of like the funds from happy days. Failing to admit that he was wrong. You know remember you know. I'm old enough to admit that I remember that really. Well I've been. I've been watching reruns of happy days in the spare time. Great stuff. I missed the good old days of TV but anyway So anyway yeah it's like you compared to a house and this is an analogy. I made in when my articles on on the giants. Even you can tear down the house and you still have a structure but the house might not necessarily be inhabitable double until you fix some of the structure inside of it. You know so so. Maybe you're revamping the rooms in the layout of the house. Maybe you're putting up new wallpaper so it really depends depends on the level of renovation. You're doing to the house whether or not you can live in it versus whether you know you have to stay away from it. I think the giants. If we're we're we're making that comparison they have got it the inside of the House. You still have a structure which in this case is the franchise but the inside has been gutted. And they're now our replacing it with more stable more A newer pieces. If you will and those all are going to take time to settle. And then they're going so you know they're going to do the cosmetic changes you know like the the Plaster Walls You know the complimentary pieces and stuff and then ultimately you're going to have a brand new house. That's going to be one one. They can live in hopefully for a number of years. So that's that's how I see where they're at right now and again fans I think to a degree they do understand. And that is a rebuild. I just think the reason why they're upset is because the giants have tried to baby and I don't know if it's done purposely or whatnot but there's been this this I guess misconception or interpretation that they're trying to tell them that things are better than what they actually are Oh patty. Let's just hope that they're building that house in a nice neighborhood. Well the neighborhood doesn't matter. Let's just hope that the house looks beautiful and functional. That's what you want very go. Hey One more question before. I let you go before we wrap it up here. There was some chatter this week from from a couple of the reporters I think in about shutting Saquon Barkley down for the year to me. I think you know if he's healthy enough. Then you go out there and you play but maybe you limit his workload you limit some of what you what you ask him to do. But I I guess my question for you is having seen you know. We know he hasn't been a hundred percent with his ankle. Are you worried about out any long term damage being done to him or are you worried about this kid at all. I think from humans perspective. I always worry worry. I worry about Sterling Shepherd and yes I will call him SHEP. I called out on twitter for calling him shop. But sorry guys sometimes when you have a good working working relationship with people you call each other by nicknames they call me P T I call him chef. Okay that's just how it is anyway but yeah for saquon Yes yes. I am concerned because he got beat up pretty badly by the jets you know trying to take on the load and I admire that he wants to be a part of it. He wants to be part of the solution. I just think there needs to be a little bit better of a balance. Maybe take some of that work. Load off you know because before this kid's ankle gets any worse and you can't tell me that that was one hundred percent I don't buy it. You've you've seen that he doesn't look like himself so maybe instead of giving him. I don't know sixty car. Sixty game raps have those I I mean. You're not running him anyway. So why do you have to have them out on the field. Blocking and being a decoy. Anyhow you know why can't win Allman do some of that decoy work. I don't I just don't get you know. So find a happy medium that will allow saquon to to be a part of the solution to continue to get the reps in the experience but at the same time. Hi take some of the pressure and the stress off of his body. I think that's a good point. Patty I guess one of the other things I would like to see is let's walk. WHOA instead of handing him the ball and having him you know bang his way in between the tackles all the time? Let's maybe spot him in some situations more where where where they try to get him to the edges in the run game where they try to throw the ball to him in space a little bit more and and not have him take all of that pounding I was. We saw him in the locker room after the game the other night and in two seasons. I think that's the most discouraged that I've ever seen him. So you know. And he was asked directly if he was hurt in and he basically he said next question he refused to answer it so we know he's banged up we know he's not physically what he'd like to be and a little bit like Daniel Jones. You know because you forget saquon is still a young player you want these young players to come out of of the season with their confidence intact and still feeling feeling good about being New York giants and right now in some cases you don't you kind of wonder if if that confidence is cracking a little bit a little bit I think so I mean look. It's been very hard word and frustrating season and you gotta look at it from a player's perspective. I once had a player told me. I don't mind getting beat up physically. I don't mind having having to sit in the cold tub the next day and you know just walking around like I'm a hundred years old if we're winning when we're losing and I feel like that and he continues and there's no hope in sight that's when I start to get a little discouraged. Now some people might say okay. Then get the hell out of the game. If that's how you feel but I understand you've got to remember. These guys are human and there is nothing more disheartening than the put. All your blood sweat and tears into something only to come up short sort of your goal and I don't blame Saquon Barkley. I think it's great that he cares. 'cause Lord knows it over the years have been guys that just take the paycheck and they walk out of the Locker mm-hmm and then they go party or go out to dinner or hang out with their friends or whatnot. saquon cares and I admire him for that. He's a captain and he's a wonderful captain at that but but you know they they just you could see that that the losing is starting to infiltrate that locker room. We're guys even guys were normally misters sisters. Roses and sunshine are starting to to be down and the sparkle is gone in there. I yes it is Patty. We will hope that that some of that sparkle returns over the over the final six weeks. Patty thank you very much as always for for spending some time. I'm with me. Thank you for listening giants fans and we'll talk to you soon bye bye. Are you troubled by strange. Hockey betrayed the middle of the night. Do you experience feelings of dread about NHL Free Agency. Have you or your family ever seen it New York islanders game if the answer is yes then. Don't wait another another minute. Pick up your mobile device. Subscribe to Lighthouse Hockey podcasts from espy nation to our courteous and efficient hosts are ready to serve. 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The Kist & Solak Show #154: How to Win Friends & Elevate Teammates

Bleeding Green Nation

46:21 min | 1 year ago

The Kist & Solak Show #154: How to Win Friends & Elevate Teammates

"Michael Kissed listening again. Benjamin consoling nevertheless. It's the kissed in Seoul Action Present. I S B nation and bleeding nation. So you are flying high on been kissed end so lax show this episode one fifty four brought to buy the book at SP is be nation bleeding great nation. I'm your host Michael Kiss. Follow me on twitter at Michael Kissed. NFL that's K.. I S. T. as always join the dog Co host in the Game Mr nine year streak without about they he has Benjamin Sollac. Follow him on twitter at Benjamin so like that's S. O. L. A. K. Band. I am ready to elevate my teammate. Today this is GonNa be a great podcast. That's how you doing brother Mike. I'm here to elevate is Alvin. My teammates you know when I suppose that field I just I wanNA elevate the my. I want my teammates elevated. It is how I want that to go on the here and then I play here which is higher than where the first year was because they've been elevated island. My teammates everything. The thing is delicious. Coralline side official front of the podcast quote and signed. Come on the show court one son and one of my favorite wide receivers in that class. That thing that we're referring to here is a reporter. We're had asked Portland Sutton quote. How does drew locks game? Help you elevate your game. And this goes into the discussion that we often talk about with like Outta quarterbacks elevated teammates around them in this you know this is beyond Philly. This is just a talking point. I hate for all quarterbacks Portland Sutton with the best response in the history of man to this question. CORTLANDT certain says quote. He played quarterback. I played receiver. He throws me the ball on firstly massive. Joe FLACCO Shade Aide Question Mark if so very happen but secondly this right this just as a as a good exemplar of how we experience this this Carson Wentz elevate is team around him. What does that mean right? You gotta be able to tell me what that means so far. Answer the question because it's like all like the wide receivers played better when foles in. I don't like dispute that but until you can describe for me the mechanics the energy not that goes in and the particular levers that are pulled and buttons that are oppressed in order to make it happen. It's really not very interesting to me because nothing I can do about it. And there's no way I can measure red figure it out it change improve it refine it anything. So Carson Wentz doesn't elevate. His teammates drew lock elevates Portland Sign. I elevate Mike like I like I don't I don't I don't know what this means. So it's just it's empty words. These are just words and the way that Sutton put it. I play receiver. He throws the ball. Yeah that's that's how that's supposed to work. One person has one job. The other person has a second job. The first person does their job. And if the second person doesn't do their job it doesn't mean the first person didn't do their job right. I would argue that like on the one game sample size. We have drew lock. Who was more beneficial Portland assigned to drew lock or Drouot coral inside? I don't know drew loft over five yards per attempt generally was awful and his best place game because it's unbelievable hands so if I'm understanding the concept of elevating teammates correctly I think Sia- May lock look a lot better than Locke made up one hundred percent agree. It's a different launch pad to different springboard for us to enter the conversation of Weiland The different ways we talked about Carson Wentz the quarterback position which are actionable which are interesting interesting. and which are not dialing back on just the phrase itself and what it means. Elevate your teammates. It's a buzz phrase. It does not mean anything they are hollow words you quote unquote. Elevate your teammates by putting them into a position to succeed. You do your job. That's the phrase that should be the phrase. Do Your job for quarterbacks if you do that and the others do there's bom both you did your job. That's great. Show me an example. Where once did his job at the receiver failed him? And tell me me exactly how he's supposed to elevate them. Give me one doggone example of how that makes sense in the context of which is often cited which the performance of the players around him. So me the film of that. And lay it out for me because you can't because it's Malarkey of the highest order it's a phrased cuddled by those those that don't know what the hell they're talking about. So they use it as a substitute for meaningful analysis. Elevate your teammates are you hi. This is nonsense Drum Circle Baby Abi town frolics just Gobbledygook. If you can't talk about what's really going on. Just shut up and stay out of the debate because you're full. Nobody knows what the Hell it means. Since and nobody's learning anything from you when you say it you're a useless part of the conversation either. contextual is what it means in a way that actually make sense or stop spewing garbage. It's not hard. You will get your teammates dom everyone should be elevated everybody else happy life. That's our talk on what it means to elevate. Tate your teammates Ben. This is not about Elevating your teammates. This is going to be a preview of the eagles and giants the first of two as we do every week unfortunately enforcing family issues kept us from doing that last week along with the the holidays. But we're going to get into this. We're going to preview the giants offense against the Philadelphia Eagles defence. Defense if we're willing to call it that and a quick word obviously the QB go show dealt with the the update that ally. Manning is very likely to play instead of Daniel Final Jones Day no Jones dealing with an ankle injury but before we really get into the giants. I did want to talk about something that I put up on on twitter today about the eagles defense. Let's just Kinda take ten thousand foot view of what the eagles defense is right now. We'll go through some stats. We'll kind of contextualized them right there. So indeed away football outsiders their thirteenth which is fine. That's average there. Eight th against homerun fifteenth against the pass points per game twenty three point seven. That's twentieth in the Red Zone were Jim. Schwartz is typically robust. They're allowing touchdowns on sixty eighty one percent of those trips. That's twenty six in the league. That was a really good usage of robust. I like that a lot anyway. I don't want to interrupt your flow. That was good but roll. Thank you thank you there touchdown drive right frequency twenty five percent twenty fifth in the League. Their turnover dry frequency eleven point eight percent. That's eighteenth and elite third down there actually a little bit better. Thirty seven a percent that's thirteenth in the League. The problem is and I think the reason why people think that the eagles third down defense is so bad is that even when they do get a stop on fourth worth down there allowing two out of every three fourth down attempts to be converted. That's now twenty ninth in the League and put onto what is a below average defense it bends and then it breaks in like the highest leverage situations possible red zone fourth-down just snapping their own back and and look. We've talked about this before and I wanNa Really WanNa dial back on it because we shouted about it. Two months ago we did. A pod was called the sixes more than four Jimbo. Because we're talking about the eagles. Just philosophy law sophy of stopping the run their third and adjusted line yards against the run defense. They're tied seven yards per carry more than anybody else. They put opposing running backs at at the top of next Gen stats. Eight plus man box column and just an example of that just in the last four weeks guys at saw a man boxes week. Nine David. Montgomery of the bears. Seventy nine percent of the time saw eight-plus box week eleven Sony Michelle Sixty Percent Week. Twelve resod penny fifty percent week. Thirteen Patrick layered layered account even know how to pronounce his weird seventy percent of the time. It has gotten worse since we started yelling about it. We already know they stack the box more than any other team against eleven personnel. This is eighteen that is dedicated to stopping the run. The only thing you have to do to beat them as Miami showed ause you have to do is test them through the air. That's it you you have to be willing to throw it up. Let your guys make plays because you can't make plays in the air yet to be willing to test them because they're going to have a communication bus as we saw a bunch of them over the past few weeks. This is why I was skeptical of this defense. Even when they had their good run film. Don't lie and the ball. Don't lie. Eagles torched by bad offense because they were just is willing to throw the ball as it. This boils back down to as you said you know we did the podcast sixers more than four. What do you whenever we we do these preview pods right whenever I start talking about the offense unit go back and listen? I always open with the question. So what are they want to do like how do they want to get you. What is it that they they want to accomplish? Because does every offense is drawn on a vacuum to beat you in these ways right like you know. The Eagles offense wants to beat you in a quick game they WANNA win leverage one on one situations that want to be able to throw the big receivers she was opening man coverage they wanna be able to nickel and dime you down the fields. Will they want to do would does the The Arizona Cardinals air raid offense want to do they want to spread you out. They want to get the ball of their athletes athletes in space. They want to stand the their their life at their quarterback in the pocket interest a quarterback running game whatever defensively. It's a harder question to ask because has what you want to do as a defense typically changes a bit based off of the team that you're facing and the the paramount Defense is the Apex of defense the New England patriots. What they WanNa do is just take away? Whatever your best I? And that's why they're one of the most the most successful defenses perennially not just this year but always under ballot check is because they're fluid they address that which you're good and they force you to women that which are not as good only when you have a cheat code such as Lamar Jackson. Are you able to beat the system. Okay Schwartz has something that he wants to do on defense he has an object in mind. And that dictates how he deploys. Defense that object. The mind as we've discussed is he wants to be plus one in the box not even stop the run right right even there yet yet really. I think that's where we end up because it's not like if I'm plus one of the box I win. It's okay in order for me to stop the run. I have to be plus lost one of the box and I want to be able to stop. The Ron. Don't want teams out physical me. I want to be able to let my pass. rushers one gap and get after the quarterback until accordingly. I must be plus one in the box to knock at gas by the Ron to allow my pass rushers to tee off end pantry in one gap. Remember when we say plus one in the box five offense of lyman a tight end. It's six potential blockers. If you've got a quarterback in running back now at the quarterback is a threat to keep the ball is a whole different conversation right but sits potential blockers and the runner with six blockers. We have seven gaps one in between each blocker. There's five there's one the outside of the left most on the outside of the right most seven gaps. The Eagles will have seven players in the box against a six-man surface against six potential blockers. Because that way we have one player for every gap we we can stop the run all accordingly. Where does this extra player? This plus one of the box come from he comes from the deep safety. Soon he comes from the Defensive Backfield Donald. You do not play too high when you're going to be one of the box. It's very very difficult to do. You're going to have a single high safety wealth. You're going to have a single high safety. Your corners needs to be responsible for the deep outside areas of the field. So you put them in off coverage and now we've arrived at. Why can the eagles knocking get off the field on third and three? Imagine the Eagles defense the box as a fist and then outside of the way outside of that fished. You've got your corners. There's all this space in between those three defenders in front of the deep safety in front of the corners between the corners. And the men. On the line of scrimmage. There is all all the space in which these offenses have access to very free access as well. We see it all the time. I mean you throw an inside. Slant against the eagles could a complete that bad batboy. No one's getting into the flat especially against play action because it was linebacker explosive doggone hard so we arrive at the place of off coverage eight yard cushions against against outside receivers. If you want this space here we will step up rally and tackle. This is a problem and we ask for more press coverage we we get it. The Eagles corners are not talented enough or designed drafted taught body type prototypes into the plane. Prescott Britain they don't have those. You don't want Jalen Mills in breast. You kind of want those impressed. Because he's not fast but that's a problem regardless of where you put them right and we're tickets Kitzbuhel run so even when he's impressed where he's got pretty poor technique he can't stay connected so this is not like you always circle back to the Legion of boom in the early. Two Thousand Ten's This was a team that was plus wanted a box. Invariably because they had corners who they could put up Atlanta scrimmage and win at the Line Byron Maxwell Richard Sherman that other dude who are long physical address the ball in the air who can run down the field and then you have tremendous coverage safeties tremendous coverage linebackers on top of the right. Then you have a Kam. Chancellor ungodly who in the middle of the field yet earl. Thomas who literally is is the solution to every problem. How do you like somebody asked me? How would you defend the Mar- I would have Prime Earl Thomas? That's the scheme I would run. Is Earl Thomas Scheme like will you need the eagles play with the corners on islands. They tried to get him up. In Atlanta's CRA mentioned the camp. Survive the Miami. I am a game. They try to keep them back. Off The line of scrimmage and they consistently give up nickel dime past the field. The Atlanta game earlier. This year you've been Minnesota last year with a quick game all gain Yep anger solution to to not being killed in the passing game is. We'll take a player of the box. Go to hi- protect. Our corners is deep. Allow them to play shallow zones or completely overhaul the position. Or don't do either of those things continue being really good at defending the run on and continue losing games like loss to Miami which is the choice. It's been the choice for years. Yeah four years. This is all ben in microbes set because he was a five seven. Twenty honey. Seventeen Eagles won the superbowl. We were talking about this big time. Schwartz has chosen how he's going to lose and how he's going to win he's GonNa win by stopping the run and he's GonNa lose when when his corners can't win one situations unfortunately he has bad corners and passing is far more effective than running. And I say unfortunately as if that's how out of control it's not so all of this going to say. The Eagles lost to the Miami Dolphins. They were two and nine coming into the game. They were laughing stock. Believe they've been tanking. They even playing better recently. CELEBS fourteen point eight points per game coming into this one on offense. So they lost the Miami Dolphins. Why it's very simple is because a A veteran quarterback was been successful against Jim Schwartz historic`mini career. Let's not forget Ryan Patrick was in the AFC laying against gym shorts knows it was the defense understood what he needed to take in order to beat the Eagles and it was fourth and four. One devante Parker that if you run that play a hundred times it converts thirty five converts. Forty it's incomplete fifty five on the other free the other two. Whatever it's touchdown now? And they've got the touchdown and then it's it's you know the the extra half second of passwords to Mike. Obviously a lot of Nice things broke the dolphins way ahead of breaking the dolphins way previously but the eagles did not have to be in that situation. They were because of the choices. philosophically made in the defensive organization. And that is to me indisputable which which. I'm sure if somebody asked Schwartz flat out why obsessed with stopping the rub in Hebrews in the past. He denied it. But this is just this is what you see On the film. And this is where if you're willing to pass the football against Philadelphia understanding the limitations of the outside corners. You will put up. Thirty and eagles offense he's Mash. Eagles to win. Brings US to New York. 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SOLEX show episode one fifty four espionage leading your nation. Michael Kissed here with Benjamin so lack Ben as you alluded to before the break and my cut you off. Sorry Buddy I'm GonNa let you get get into your little lot alive manning thing here since he is very likely going to be the starter and of course you know it really doesn't change medically for the giants what's going to happen here. I think it does change but I mean Daniel Jones wasn't thrown the deep ball. Anyway I think through a ten percent frequency something like that towards the bottom of the League but when you look at Jones Jones just like I read. Okay make the right read get it out. He's pretty decent in that area. You'll I manning as we've known him for the past three four five years. I even said it in the article that I put up. BGN SAY CHECK DOWN TO CHECK DOWN quarterback instead of touchdown to check down as you often hear it jokes. That's what we're dealing with ally manny. It comes down one thing I did. Note on the Cuban Before I kick it to you Ben is this now makes tackling of great import for the Eagles. Because you're going to get a lot of saquon Barkley and the flats are GonNa have to make tackles in space. The Eagles are one of the bottom five teams in the league. PF upgraded for tackling. A lot of missed tackles along this defense as we documented before so that is the danger. We'll see if eli manning wants to go all two thousand seventeen remember that boat rates in two thousand seventeen you live through a bunch of double moves at the Eagles and it was a what what would they put up over. Who who is the cat? They had okay. I gotTa find this game twenty. Seventeen right he attempted fifty seven passes a AH twenty nine to thirty four game ended when the Odell was not actively campaign right. Sixteen targets eleven receptions in one hundred thirty nine yards for one sterling shepard yup healthy usage they rent so many double moves that gained all right into it was various king drifting at dusk catches for seventy the yards in two touchdowns en jails is still looking for him to this day he beat up bad of our skin. That was where the now is the last year here of whoever the hackers offense coordinator was before they moved on Ben mcadoo That was last the negative and that was like Ben mcadoo trying to save job. He was like that didn't work I'll but as valiant offer so you watched ally manning this morning as you're kind of prep and forum. And what did you see from the film that you watched him in how that kind of plays into what's going to happened. Maybe on Sunday our excuse me on on Monday night football Monday night football baby. That is still the best game of Sterling Shepherd career yet most targets time. Hi Most receptions. Do you see what the Eagles due to some of these guys Devante Parker best game it was career microseconds thinking best game of his career sterling notice a theme. Is Cody Latimer this week. WanNa bet three hundred thousand dollars. The Best Game of various kings career gone absolutely. He's not playing anywhere right now. Yeah right I was. That was the last last game of his career. Eagles ended this career. But on a reception seventy yard touchdown game on three targets targets. The League said Nope. He's got three touchdowns in his career in two of them were in his last game ever which was against the Eagles Lord Almighty and adorable adorable. Okay that's amazing. Wow this is a oncho. Research with Kissel Manning Twenty nineteen. I actually we should not commanding between nineteen what we should say is Eli Manning. Across the course of the last few years we can focus on the two years in which Mike Shula has been as offensive coordinator as I said that Ben mcadoo released following the two thousand seventeen season of his duties as the giants head coach once and Future Eagles head. Coach a Ben macadear This was pat. Shurmur was the office coordinator in Minnesota. If you remember for case keenum he was hired to be the head coach in New York with him in. He brought Mike Shula Mike. Shula was the offensive coordinator in Carolina. For Four Seasons. He was born there for their Super Super Bowl run and then he when he was released than it was hired a New York. He was released at enlarge part as like a kind of Ron Rivera Gambit to save save his job which as we now know did not work. Let's not successful man. And so it's always been obstacle in here in New York for the past two years. What do you have from? Shula Woah will so Shula was a Alabama head coach for awhile. He's boost Carolina from for several years. I think it was Jacksonville for a bit as well. The the true a west coast guy and so what. You're going to see the honestly like a lot of stuff that he does in terms of the shotgun assing game. Reminding me a ton of what you got from Seattle. I in what you what you see from From Brian Schottenheimer there. Now they don't have is as nearly as robust where the podcast they're not nearly as we're about to play action pass a game. They have have the quite the same ability to go deep with receivers. I think that with with Darius late and they really hit Darius late in the fifth round Pick Auburn. Hey can burn the cool thing that I just got. What about Darius late in the year thirteen point six targeted air yards on? That's that's that's how where on average is targeted down the field. That is right next to a Philip door set. Thirteen point one chart thirteen point to decay metcalf. Thirteen point two tyreek hill. Thirty point seven Devante Parker thirty seven broad pyramid thirteen point eight John Brown thirty eighty point. Nine there's just this little house of clear deep. It's sitting at this this this depth of target players who went in similar ways. They found that D.C. Our there slay but the rest of their receiver rooms kinda built out to be short intermediate guys and that's what they do when you go when you watch the Eli Manning Film. It's important to note that at the time they really hadn't activated Slayton at all. Golden State was in suspense was suspended. And actually a manning second game against buffalo the Shepherd Sterling. Shepard was out with injury and so manning through a lot of the twenty nineteen seventies put on film with Bennie. Fowler Cody Latimer Russell Shepard Bird Tj Jones. And then obviously Evan Ingram and squad Berkeley available. What you see for Manning as he still highly functional is a three step hitching gal rights? who were we're in the shotgun we take the snap a it's a three step drop? We work usually a frontside. Backside get to our second. Can't read the latest and then we fire and manning's really good at prisoner identification has been for a while it's still affected for him as a good placement. Still to the outside side of the numbers. Outside of the Hash is in between the Hash. Is He still good placement quarterback when things are are tidy things are typically untidy the NFL level. And that's what you need escape. Ability Ability. Yeah you need pocket management unique ball security and you need a arm strength from different release angles ability to throw from your platforms. Manning still has good pocket pocket management. You know we we make a lot of fun of Eli Manning inappropriately South Thirty eight years old. Love Take the Mickey out of him. What do anything of course months managed a pocket like this? He's still a good pocket manager. He does not have athletic ability to escape if necessary but good pocket manager. The armed strength is gone. He's he's not an effective arm at at. This point is career so he cannot make late. outbreaking throws he cannot throw tight windows. It is not available to him and then The ball security is actually reading talk about Daniel. Jones is on a a historic a historic. Listen to me historic. Pays for fumbling the football. He fumbled the ball. Fifteen Times in eleven games. I watched three of them against the jets. and Oh my goodness Jamal Adams to strip that out of his hands on his boss. Security's bad it ain't all on the offensive line either which is bad wolf. And that's the thing is like like zone ball securities on the quarterback period. Yup here Ariya now again pressured within two seconds all the frigging time which let's talk about twenty eighteen. Eli Manning who was sacked forty seven times over the course of sixteen games. The Office of line was dreadful and Manning had the benefit that Jones has not had of playing with a healthy off into line for the first two games of the season. Context is Worthy Party. But Manning was sacked two times two games. Jones have been sacked thirty three times in eleven games. Manning put two balls on the dirt. Two Games lost one of them. Jones says put fifteen balls Burton. Eleven Games Law Stenham manning gets hit less and he takes less saks. Many just hit list because like he'll go down at the breeze breeze. which is I mean? He's no quarterback smart one. I'm saying he gets hit less in terms of like he's better at getting rid of the ball. Oh yeah does not invite pressure. He manages the pocket. Well He protects the ball when pressure Chris Coming with Jones does not do Daniel. Jones is the third slowest quarterback in the League. Right now at two point nine. He invites him of that pressure by himself. Allied does not manning over the first Whatever whatever the first two games of this season around two point six five was his number in terms of his time to throw which is about league average? If you go back to twenty eight eighteen you again find him at about two six five and that was over the course of sixty game season with Shula so even with a an improved offense ally manning still a little bit. Ah The league average little bit quicker I should say the average Getting rid of the football relative Jones who holds onto a for a while so the giants team will immediately immediately get better because manning is not going to turn the ball over nearly as much he simply won't end like manning interceptions have been a problem. We all know that that Daniel Jones says eleven interceptions over the course of the eleven games that he's played. Manning had two interceptions the two games that he played. But manning generally is not gonNA make as dumb passes asses as Jones has the ball security not taking of Saxon. The pocket is what matters. This offense is more likely to stay on schedule. Not Give up short fields and critically critically Even out time of possession even drive life and actually get punts and when the pond they flip field position so immediately. Manning helps the defense Over more than the Alps the offense in terms of. He's not GonNa make as many backbreaking mistakes so we start there. Man Is GonNa Offense Worse Centennial Jones's in in terms of And Jones like you can't you can't really say wash away the critical mistakes because they're critical mistake as do that now but if you look at what they can possibly bring Jones one has significantly more zip on the football team. So he's able to. Hey guys in stride guys in times able to attack tight windows and push the ball field. They didn't have a strong arm down the field but he he's willing to throw it down. The field is capable of throwing another field. Manning does not have this period does not have have this career. He does not test down. The field does not want down the field when he does. It's a duck and you should be able to make plays on the football with manning you're going to see three separate hitch. Read frontside curl flat. Hitches pirate gang whatever else in breaking slant lance whatever base West West Coast Concept. You want anything. That's breaking within eight yards of the line of scrimmage managing to throw and he's GonNa throw a quick. This is an an off coverage game for Philadelphia. This is get your corners eight yards off the ball. Let them squat. Let them play downhill. This is the Darby game now 2017. Double moves honestly. Honestly if Mannequin head. I'm sure I don't think you can. I don't I'm twenty yards down the field. He can obviously but I really hit them consistently and it's worth noting that this team is going to have their past actors potentially healthy for the first time all season. They have not had a game yet this year. In which Darius lay Golden Tate Sterling Shepard. Evan Ingram have all played ingram. Tate are fighting to be ready for Monday night. Football if they are then you have to ask the conversation about okay. Are they going to be more able able to go deeper than they were previously. But Manning's not gonna be able to hit slam. He's never played with Slayton he's not gonna be able to hit him consistently down the field and then shepherd and Ingram win in the underneath areas so expect a quick passing game expect a lot of what Atlanta did you have to be able to come rallying tackle you have to be able to survive against play action. You have to have smart linebackers. They run the little. I'll play action. screen running back. Fake screen. You know heavy misdirection Splitting the field a lot of across motion before the snap. Which which is Carolina Alana East off? Do you have to have smart linebackers for that. Generally speaking keep everything in front of you spot drop cover three off coverage rallying tackle. They're not could be able to generate a ton of movement on you and they're not gonNA get explosive. Plays continue on that same thread of what they look like schematically. This offense lives out of eleven personnel allowed to buy one onset so two receivers on one side one on the other. Editing Room on the field obviously They are really going to challenge you from a mental perspective when you talk about how they stressed the offensive backfield. There's a lot of high kylo reads especially from a stack. They bring to receivers closer to the line. There's where you get your whip route paired with your corner out. It's very basic stuff in allies going to read the corner and then and figure out and then check it down. There also GonNa Splash the flats on both sides. You know watching the jets game. The jets brought nickel corners on blitzes from the too wide receiver side safeties atheist from the tight end side. Those guys were typically picked up by the running back and Saquon Barkley has had struggles picking those things up effectively from a mental perspective. But I think from a physical perspective as as well something that he himself has said he needs to work on especially with his technique when they do spread it out more. There's really not much complexity there. Either for instance they're going to split Barkley out wide as a coverage identifier. And then waste him as a decoy. As they run like a Haas concept which means he's just GONNA take a couple of steps and chill to hold this man while they get the slot guy he runs a vade. Let allies really not gonNA take that shots wide open. It's extremely predictable for defense AC- coming. Even when they go trips like they'll they'll clear it out with slants and they'll bring wing Barclay under to the flats that something with ally. I think they're gonNA work a lot but it's still really basic stuff right. There in as Barclay is a match up nightmare for a linebacker. He is having a down down your because I still think. He's struggling with high ankle sprain that he came back from too early so along with that. The offense isn't doing him any favors because they have a real L. Knack for telling you when they want to run whenever you see a wide receiver motion into the line as the sniffer or close to it when they get condensed. They're run looks are so divorced from their pass. Looks and this is what I mean when they put too much stress on defenses collective brain for the most part. It's pretty obvious what they're trying to do. From a Pre snap look and shifts and motions you can and key on this offense really well and even when they run from spread for example you're getting zone runs and Saquon Barkley foot. You know his his priests snap stance is giving you a lot of keys of when he's going outside or when he is going inside and this line is it making the blocks anyway so it doesn't matter the towards the bottom of the bottom of the league in adjusted line yards for this off of this offensive line. So they're not doing him. Any favors Barkley said is banged up. They're not complexes offense they're very easy to read. We'll see if they come out with a new diverse game playing with the manning but I really doubted especially considering. This news is dropping later on in the week. Even when you look at this offense align look we can talk about how neat soldier hasn't lived up to his giant. I ain't contract there or close to it and he hasn't but I'll tell you what when he went down against the jets life with him. Got A hell of a lot worse when Eric Smith I've had to fill in if Derek Barnett gets the chance to work against Eric Smith Eric. If you ask me for any information Eric Smith beyond his name his colonel patient. I would not be able to again with you. I had to Google and even solar in there. You know you go to. Pf as we do each week for their Old Line D.. Line matchup chart. The giants have the worst matchup in past pro of the week. So Oh Philadelphia again should be able to eat and have been eating. They'd been getting improved performance. Derek Barnett eight against a bad tackle last week. Timmy Jernigan really really came on which is super awesome for this defense. Because they've been lacking that second defensive tackle in this is the first time that we've seen shades of two thousand seventeen Jernigan since two thousand in seventeen so that's a really good signed to fledge city like this offense lies not good like wilderness is going to be a good one but other other than that like nobody is really holding holding up against the Eagles pass rush in my opinion so they should be able to get a lap who the extended after last year after he was like their third option. Right something like that. I don't I think I don't think he's awful. I think he's alright. Alright against Blackhawks is getting your sandwich out right order and then zeiler plays well. Oh yes yeah But I don't know if he is. He expected applies Eyler. I know he's I know he's banged up. We'll get with the eye injury report tomorrow. It's coming out a little bit late because it's a Monday night game. I don't see him on this injury. The report that I currently have. Anyway you might be. He might be a healthy which will be big vin because he is playing all right. I thought he played better last year. But he's playing solid which Hernandez the insider should survive. They should be fine and they're gonNA get fletch and Jernigan twists and they're gonNA get him up against those tackles In the gaps learning to be successful there. But yeah you'd expect the eagles those edges to be more successful when you've got remers and solar slash Eric Smith already for his name and for his decent as the Interior is. They are having problems. Problems with like three men. Stunts which eagles have been incorporating with their bliss packages more and more recently. Yeah now it's when this team wants to run with Barclay and we should talk about saquon compensated when this team wants with Barclay you they want to get outside and. I think that they've been trying to do that. Lesson less this year as they've gotten worse and worse play out of their tackles on Red Alison being down as a big deal. Because I'm here to tell you. I've absolved the eagles are are the giants offense. I figured it out when Evan Ingram is lined up as a hand in the dirt in line tight end Mike. A AH. It'll pass Yup. It's not a run. This is what I'm telling you with. Their pass looks is very obvious. You're not going to have right. I mean this is this the therein Karen Owner Center running team in the shotgun passing game. And they've not really Devi Hoa last they never really you know Talk those two ideas together right now. So it's it's it's pretty pretty distinct right you if you go in like one of the things that we do in practice like search like Manning passing attempts watch those and all sorts like saquon Barkley runs. And it's like like all these are two different offenses cool right exactly. That's what I mean when they're so divorced from each other and it's pretty obvious again like I say you WanNa look good with people. You're talking with watching the game game with just wash. Revenue Ingram has hand in dirt next to tackle big odds probably pass You'RE GONNA be right a lot. Look look at US Barclays feet when he's he's aligned in a in a shotgun if his left foot is staggered back from his right foot or the outside foot staggered back from the inside foot. He's coming inside either for vagrant inside run like literally every time very easy tell. It's not not a complex for example on offense but anyway saquon Barkley though. Let's go back to him yards per carry down a full yard. Hasn't had a one hundred got game since week to hasn't had a touchdown since week. Eight down season for him. He's banged up Ryan and it's clear so barclay initially went down with a high ankle sprain in week week four This was a injury. The he came back from on a really abbreviated time-line a he was. Yeah which he was back Jack taking snaps by week eight so he know we seven Susan Young seven so he missed a total of three weeks. without with a high ankle sprain I mean he was initially given a four to six week. Timeline of Barclay is freakazoids athlete human. Maybe he's capable of coming back from an ankle sprain on an abbreviated time line. Because he's a freakazoids athletes monster person but the cost of your freakazoids monster through humanness. And so you're not as effective as a player Barkley as good running back. WHO's continuing to play well? But he's not nearly the world breaker that he was and it's because he's playing on a bad ankle uh-huh that's not going away in the little things in his game that are flaws for instance. You know having a tendency to bounce things maybe not hitting the bright whole time which he himself has said he says has having issues with those. Are Those are magnified. When you don't have the same freakazoids world-beating ability to create in space and make those broken employees work Jordan? Howard still not clear for contact? Oh dunking Doug. Doesn't they get season ending. He's been out for three weeks of the Stinger. He's not clear for contact on Wednesday is. Let's go before it's going to be four weeks going on five since the injury happened. Why can't we just say out loud that he's it's more than more significant injury like why do we have? Two layers are telling reporters under under the protection of anonymity that this is more than a singer for Howard that they think it's more than a singer for Howard also be. It's a singer this moment of the kissing Stinger show anyway so Barkley not as effective exactly as you say Mike. It's it's his the issues as a player. Minimized by his extreme athleticism are maximized. When you see what he is like at seventy five percent at eighty percent? Furthermore I think they've changed the way they want to run. I think when you look at Barclays First Year when you look at his reps and he was healthy Landa toss lot outside zone Pimple trying to get this guy. Outside of the tackles. He's at his most effective given space. He was incorporated in the screen game in the swing game. Now it's more inside stuff because the open-field agility is not bad there as much as it once was so I also think that there's a a change in philosophy and how they want to run Barclay and Barclay is going to be at his best when he's outside the tackles and so you have to deployment a situation where he's not as good because of the limits that he has physically basically now. It's GonNa be very interesting to see what we get because I would argue like we really don't know how it's supposed to look golden state. Misses the first four games of the a year Sterling Shepard. Mrs Week Six through week eleven. Evan Ingram Mrs we six week ten week. Eleven twelve thirteen saquon Barkley Mrs Week. Four week five weeks six again. This team has not had golden tate. Sterling Shepard Evan Ingram and saquon Barkley all in the field at the same time yet this year throwing Darius laying there as well they haven't on that either So we don't know exactly how it's supposed to luck and we probably won't this year because Barclay probably won't get healthy. Evan Ingram is still coming back from a foot Going to tape may not be able to clear concussion. Protocol Their space for this offense to be more dynamic in terms of how it gets as athletes working than it. Currently is I think that. Just as Daniel gels calcium's more consistent player in a pocket. You'll see that. But for the immediate timeframe of Philadelphia you a very limited quarterback likely throwing to a lesser one hundred percent receiving core looking to survive on nickels and dimes. And of course Philadelphia's been looking to survive on nickels and dimes for the past eight weeks. That's one of the problem. You're really not at a big threat for explosive passing place even with what you just put out on film against the dolphins because manning does not play the same game. Fitzpatrick does and you're not at a threat for huge rip off if Barclay Ron's because he's at seventy five eighty percent. This offense does not generate explosive place. Just good for Philadelphia. The really weak in that regard so this is a rally tackle game that should play better into the defensive strengths. This should look more so the bears game. This should look more so like the buffalo game in terms of the even the New England game right in terms of the defensive performance You have to tune in tomorrow to hear about having offense is GonNa do. But that's the first half. Is that you know this. This should not be a game where the eagles have have to score thirty seven to beat the New York giants. That will not be the case if they do. That's great but I don't think they're going to have to which is good news. So let's go to the draft kings sportsbook since you you brought up Some of the scoring there right now the line. The Eagles are nine and a half point favorites. The over under a set up forty five point five quick math that I definitely didn't do before the show that means Vegas is saying it's around twenty eight to eighteen Ben. Does the giants offense score more than eighteen points. I am at a even As down as I am on this defense I think it's a bounce back game doesn't have a whole lot to do with them. I'M GONNA go with the under. I think eighteen is the right number. You know what I mean. I don't I feel strongly either way if I guess I would say under 'cause I do expect a big must win divisional. Keep our hopes alive playoff game so I would expect it to be strong. Obviously this this team has been good against Eli for awhile now And so you do expect them to familiar opponent familiar deployment understand understand what he's going to try to understand how to rattle them how to get pressure on the giants Alabama Blade on this year. So yeah I guess under eighteen but eighteen feels like the right eight spot for for manning and for what we should expect this giants offense in the two games. They played against Dallas Buffalo. They put up seventeen and fourteen. So so yeah I would say that eighteen is pretty much the correct number now. I'm probably going to put them right. At seventeen seventy and sounds sounds good for me. So I'm GonNa take the under you gotta tune in for the next kissed in Salt Lake Show to find out our final score predictions. That's going to be what Friday that'll be Friday. You'RE GONNA be brought by them. Then we're GONNA WE'RE GONNA WE'RE GONNA make sweet sweet podcast cast music together tomorrow. What is this? 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Hour 1

"Great news. There's a quick way. You can save money. Switch to Geico. Geico could help you get great coverage at a great price. And it only takes fifteen minutes to see if you could save fifteen percent or more on car insurance. Go to Geico dot com today and see how much you could save. Welcome you to the program. And there is breaking news from Tuscaloosa. Nick Sabin doesn't have the internet. Have you heard about this last night saving as he always does during this cupcake week? Went on a Nick Sabin like rat. No, it really doesn't matter. What anybody else thinks they have every right to work. Like I've worked for forty some years was a coach and get a job and have their own team when they can make any decision that they want. I tell the assistance at all the time you want to do it that way ahead job. And you can do it that way. I, but right now, this is the way we're gonna we're gonna do it. So if I tell them that. So is it the fans question or you? I would be my question. I don't know of any outside noise. I don't have internet. I don't have Twitter on read the paper. So I I don't I don't know you have to be more specific. So is there something specific? I mean, I should ask you for that start with. But I really don't care to be honest with you. Kind of guy that reads the newspaper every morning, I think he does I have evidence of that the show begins now. Welcome to the ball. Finebaum show, presented by pilot flying j. So we walk them you back to the program on Thursday. Glad all of you or here. And we will keep you company. The next couple of hours give or take a few and get your ready for the college football weekend, presumably beginning today. But I cannot remember what the Thursday night game. Is you know, what Randy? I see hawks in Packers. That's the pro game. I was looking for the college game. John. Remember when we used to know those by heart, the SEC well on her Archie manning with the Michael live award that is distinguish honor given to one of the truly great heroes and SEC history. Greg Sankey saying Archie manning more than football legend in the south Eastern Conference, his integrity leadership and contributions to society, make him a pillar of a wider community that transcends sports Archie left. An indelible Mark on the SEC through his participation in athletics. His service organization leadership and his dedication to family values. We are pleased to honor Archie manning with Michael L slide distinguish service award and hard to find anyone who better represents the SEC and to receive that honor the Archie manning, certainly the first family of the getting. An award. That means so much all of us in honor. Of the late Mike's live. Here's what's coming up on the program today. Bill bender. Join us talking about the next three weeks of the college football season Marty and McGee talking about. I haven't the faintest idea. Alex Garbo on couple of different things you be getting ready to play AM. And also something that happened in nineteen sixty eight that may have set the stage for the current dynasty at all of ama-. Bruce Feldman one of the most knowledgeable people in the industry will also join us in the final guest. Barrett saly got eliminated from our screen there. I don't know if that's a harbinger of things to come. We'll talk to Dan Mullen coming up here in minutes. More of your phone calls at eight five five to four to seven to eight five and Todd begins. Our coverage right now. Todd good afternoon. Hey, good afternoon. Paul. Thanks for taking my call. A love your show very much. What is the lack that Alabama goes through Auburn game and the big trees, and is it going to take Jalen coming back in order to make that happen through the tide. Todd. I guess you're asking me of what the likelihood is. I think it's pretty overwhelming in my opinion about yours. You know, you don't think there's going to be a factor with Georgia of revenge and then play an above their head more than what people expect. Yeah. Todd, thanks for the call eight to run. We have a guest waiting and we look forward to welcoming. And our next guest. He is Dan Mullen of the university of Florida brought to you by how express be the radius. Coach always great to catch up with you. Congratulations on. On last weekend. The gators. You got you guys. Just don't don't make it easy on the fans falling behind like he did against Vanderbilt and coming back. How are you coach? We're doing good. We're doing good a couple of other comeback win against Carolina last week. So our guys, you know, they have a lot of resiliency that won't quit keep battling. And and keep fighting out there on the field to get us a win. But we also could play the first forty minutes. Like we played the last twenty minutes and make it easier on everybody. Yeah. It's pretty obvious question coaching. I'm sure you've you've probably tried to answer before I asked it. How do you? How do you explain the tale of two halves Vanderbilt? And now the South Carolina. You know, what I think honestly, there's there's a lot that goes on in the game, and and momentum changes in and so, you know, sixty minutes football games, a long time. And when you're playing good football teams, you know when you're out there playing a good South Carolina team. Like, there's a lot of talent awesome offensive firepower. You gotta you gotta sit there you gotta you know, you got to kind of roll with the game. And and you know, your your take some punches early and managed through. And you know, what your guys gotta do. They gotta keep straining keep fighting, can, you know, and if you do that, and and you find a way to buckle down, you get momentum on your side later in the game in the fourth quarter when you want it, and if you can take advantage of it and hold on you can find a way to get a win. So you know, we talk about our guys starting fast. But you know, I mean, I it's it's it's always there's always going to be big momentum swings. The game a football. And you gotta keep battling for for sixty minutes to till it swings. Your way in the end. I know you're a tough loss at the quarterback position. Flea bay still your man, even though there's been a lot of conversation about that. I realize we're heading toward the twelfth week of the season. But how would you characterize how would you describe your quarterback situation right now? You know, it's been it's been good fleet base. Our starter all year, you know. And he's you know, he's still a sophomore. He's a young player. He's had some ups and downs. And you know, and I think one of the things that that you see him, learning and progressing. I thought he played a pretty good game last week. And you know, I think he's still learning. How do put his skill set in offense? And you wanted things he did last week. I thought he ran the ball exceptionally. Well, he didn't put it very big numbers at all. But I thought he ran the ball in some key moments hard in one of the things you always tell me, I don't need to be an explosive runner. What I need you to do is get us some tough yards in critical moments in situations. And then manage the game distribute the ball two receivers who were open, and you know, and you see him. I think he's progressed as the years going on, you know, he's had a couple of weeks ago in Missouri. Didn't have a great day, and it was a little bit off. But you know, I know a lot a lot always gets point into the quarterbacks. But you know, also we've had some issues. With the offensive line with pass protection for times this year as well. And that can really throw off your rhythm at the quarterback position. So, but he's he's really tried to buy into everything we do and you've seen him continually improve from the beginning of the season. Until now talking to Dan Mullen, they coach of the Gators who take on Idaho this week that is a noon eastern time game coach, I realize as the head coach you have to play the schedule and every opponent is important, and that's a cliche. There's also a lot of truth to it. But as you probably know there, there's a lot of national narrative about the SEC this weekend. They call it cupcake weekend. I think the the the outside of the two conference games. The the favorite is the home. The the SEC team is favored by an average of thirty five points. Do you do you like the way it sets up, and I say that because you have your end of the year rivalry game next week against FAU alabam has Auburn, you know. How it goes is a good way to do it. Well, you know, I it it's it's just the way it's done. I don't really always look good or bad on it. Right there. You know? I mean, there's you play your schedule. And I think there's a lot of conferences that that play a lot don't planning in conference games the first month of the season, you know. And so now this weekend they're playing a conference game where you know, we we're playing in this league. We're playing conference games right early. Right. You know, we too we were in conference, you know, and and playing those conference games early on in the season those big games early. So and because of that you end up with the non conference game here at the end. And obviously, you know, one of our big robbery game in the last week of the season. And that's that's against the non conference opponents some people get that game within conference play. So I I don't know if there's an advantage disadvantage, or there's an argument that's good or bad one way or the other you're gonna play the schedule. And and you know, when you play people, I, you know, everybody plays place. Schedule they play conference and non conference games and. I guess you could make an argument whether people like playing the non-conference early and the conference late or the conference early and non-conference late. You could argue either way with it. So I realize this is more of a before the season question. But a lot of people say the solution is is nine conference games. Although in in in the past not many people seem to be in favor of that. Do you have any thoughts on that issue? I guess if you looked at it. I I mean, I don't know. I mean, you could find a way to make it I guess fair here at Florida in in Georgia 'cause we play that game in Jacksonville every year. So you have four home for away and you have the neutral site game. If you were going to do that. But if you, but if you look at every other school in the league, then you know, I mean is it fair that you know, that home field advantage is so critical in the southeastern conference that some years, you get to play five home, and some you know, and a team, you know, conference championship. You're looking at is saying, hey, well, you know, we got a great team this year. But we gotta play five road games. And somebody else only has to play for road games this year. And you know, so I I don't know maybe if they picked neutral site game for that one game every year for everybody. They could I don't know. I don't know how the math would work with that to balance it out. But you know, the eight keeps the eight keeps the league keeps it fair of where it is in the league right now. So, you know, I don't know that they want to change that to make it unfair. Finally with coach vol, and as you get ready for a game like this. And I don't want to take away from what I've already said. But how do you approach the end of the season? You have this non conference game. You have another one next week, obviously against Florida state is a strategy the same every week. You get ready to play the game the game on Saturday, regardless of who they are. Yeah. You know? And what you're doing to is is you're also improving and building your team from one week to the next. You know, we we have to be a better football team. There's things we didn't do well last week and order to look into improve those things, you know. And you know, because you can look at it and say, okay, you're getting ready for your opponent. But you're also trying to improve yourself as a team, and you know. There's kind of two sides to that. And so when when you look at this work constantly trying to improve our we have a better Thursday practiser. We're going to be a better practice team this Thursday than we were last Thursday. You know, we paying a little attention to details. You know, things that we do week to week. Are we improving those little things and getting better because you wanna be a great team at the end of the season. And so, you know for us we have we finished the year with two non conference games, obviously Idaho this week. And then you know, the big game against Florida state. You know in game next week that those are two great games. You know, for our guys, you know, we we got a lot to prove. There's still a lot to play for for us. I know there's you know, there's talking team if we could win out or right there on the edge of possibly planning in New York six bowl and a new year what New York New year's six bowl. We'll go to New York and played if they want us to, but you're six bowls, and you know, so all of that's out there. There's a lot to play for it. And if if you're not constantly improving week-to-week, you know, you don't want to take a step back in November. So that's been a big focus for this week. I'll close on that near six Bo 'cause you are projected according to some and you get to wins, and you're going to be right in there. I know you don't want to jump ahead. But that would be a pretty nice accomplishment. When you consider this is year one and you also consider the record of the Gators year ago. I'm going to be a great college. We have a lot of work to do before. We'd get there, you know. And and because of of of what we've done in in our record. We don't completely can control that. But we we gotta worry about what we can control. There is a lot of work to do it. I of of coming out and performing and playing plan to our standard on Saturday. And then getting another great week of practice for obviously a big robbery game the next week and. If we do those things, you know, there's still a lot of great things could be headed this team. Coach always appreciate you coming by. We will see you soon. Thank you very much. Thanks have a great day. Go gators. You bet damn on joining us by phone. He is in Gainesville getting ready for Idaho. And then if shoe the following week, we will take a break more to come a lot lots of do on this program as we begin to get ready for the weekend. Stick around and your phone calls next wouldn't tracking the domestic dust bunny. You come to find them hiding under wardrobes next to Las soaks. To although scarring off what's utterly fascinating about the dust bunny is that although they're not actually sent creatures when they have Kyko not only saves people money, but also has ninety seven percents customer satisfaction rating. It's obvious to them. You should switch because Yesler. Switching Geico is a no brainer. Oh, no is the dust on his own natural Prentice on the lung dust on his run along. We are back radio folks with us. Let's get to the calls. Eight five five four to seven to eight five. Can you're on the air and welcome to the program. Thanks, paul. How's it going is going? Great ken. I have a question concerning to as nee- injury. There's no question that he is definitely injured. He's more than just dinged up for instance after the during the LSU game after he ran that forty four yard touchdown. He immediately limped into the medical tent. And then the next thing, you know, he's on the stationary bike. And then I think he had to ride the stationary bike again last week against Mississippi State. My question is. Is Nick Sabin in denial or do you think that he feels like if he deliberately starts third string quarterback against the at L that he might motivate them, and perhaps create potential. It's a great question. Can Nick Sabin is not in denial. He he can be exasperatingly to listen to on the two or question. But I think what he what he isn't doing is giving anything away. He is he's also covering for himself by by playing to as much as he he has but savings acutely aware of the situation. And I believe that he will play to very quickly and get him out of there. Just to prove a point. And if he does play him more than that then. Denial would not be the word. I would use to describe him. I certainly hope so because you know, Mike Shula was mentioned on the show. Yeah. One of the greatest tragedies that happened in the Mike Shula era was pla- praying. Playing Tyrone pro throw. Sure, right. Would be playing on Sunday afternoons had it not been for a tremendous injury that he took when I I think it was Florida. They were leading something like thirty eight to seven and try it was an absolute tragedy. And and that's I mean, I think of all the things you hate to see. In sports. You know, you hate to see a player injured in preseason or in the first game. But what's even harder is when you see a player of Tyron pro throws quality or of two is injured in a situation where they should not be in the game. And absolutely. And I just I'd say that happened because two has such right future. And I mean this guy's limit. Did that would be the most fascinating part of this game. And I I don't wanna diminish Nick savings hundred standing or the circumstances. I promise you. But sometimes he can be stubborn, and, you know, improving point and winning the battle. Do you lose the war? It's a big risk. But he'll start the game in my opinion. But if he's in there, very long, and it's a big mistake. Yeah. I agree. Thank you very much. Thank you. Very much can always applies to talk to you Harry. Is in New Orleans, Harry. Good afternoon. Paul. I meant to ask you this yesterday. But I just forgot. And it's gonna be Sean sweet today. I enjoyed coach Mullins interview. Paul should should know for Dame fall this weekend, all probably not next. But if they should fall to Syracuse your opinion ball with that automatically eliminate them. More than likely. I think it would now you know, you could get some chaos here. That would help them you could get Oklahoma. And West Virginia cancelling each other out. You could have Michigan. Lose to Ohio State, and then maybe Ohio State lose to northwestern. It would take a lot to get them back in it wouldn't be impossible. But if things don't occur like, I just laid out. They would be in big trouble. That's what I thought. But because they don't have a conference game two to hang their hat on. No. And you know, all that. Michigan win can only go so far. You'll great. Yeah. I'm I'm I don't put as much doc into some people because it happened on September first. And I think you have to measure the season now versus then. Right. Okay. Paul. Thanks a lot. And I'm looking forward to the rest of the show. Thank you very much. Always great. We are up against a break here. Dan Mullen has been with us already. We'll talk about the college football playoff in a moment. Your phone calls as well. We just got through showing our TV viewers, we do have radio viewers listeners as well. Bill benders list in the sporting news Bill is brought to you by a Holiday Inn express be the reds Bill with sporting news. And we'll go over to gain with Bill. What are the issues remaining with two weekends left? Well, three weekends left in the college football season two in the regular season Bill. Always pleasure. Thank you for being with us. We we mentioned your list and to knee is high on the list of question marks remaining good afternoon. And what should we watch for as we head into the homestretch? I think that's the number one story line to help. Because obviously with him there. A runaway favourite twin away. The win the national championship. He's by far the front runner to win the Heisman. But I saw you know, his last touchdown pass it, Tennessee. I was there when he threw it and got and everybody just kind of stairs until he gets up and a little bit of that last week with Mississippi State, obviously as well. So I think the mission for Alabama is to keep him healthy as possible for the next two weeks before the championship game. So that brings us to what has been it's hard to believe that the biggest story in college. One of the biggest stories in college football this week whether to would play against the citadel, and I don't wanna diminish the citadel. I happened to be on the sidelines three years ago this weekend when they. Came into Williams Brice stadium and beat the Gamecocks, but that was a transitional situation, they are not going to beat Alabama. They're not going to be within thirty points whether to plays or not, but but he is that important moving forward. So what should Nick Sabin do Saturday? Well, if he's gonna play which that seems to be the indication I wouldn't have been there very long and saying one drive to drive it almost I would almost treat it like a preseason game. Seriously, if they get a couple of scores get them out and go from there. I mean that's get in get out game. And like you said when by I don't think anybody's gonna lose their mind if they win that game forty five to three or thirty eight to three it's all about getting to the iron bowl and keeping him healthy. And again, he took that the one that cut my attention last week was the one where nothing so much the knee where he took the shot on the quad. Because of like that's something else on that leg. So I just about keeping him healthy the rest of the way. Bill bender with this Bill. Let's talk about some of the other story lines making news. We had them up on a screen minute ago. But I'll let you pick on where you believe the most important storylines go as we head on obviously next week the game Ohio State, Michigan Clemson Notre Dame. Just kinda take them one at a time. And explain your your reasoning and rationale. Well, I think you know, all this Michigan Ohio state that storyline right self. They'll both probably be ten one the losers really gonna feel that one rather. It's Michigan because Jim Harbaugh would be owned four against stayed at that point or the buckeyes given the season they've had on and off the field. It's almost one where I think the the overreaction be of a loser for sure got a couple of weeks e spoilers out there. Whether it's Syracuse this weekend against Notre Dame or you know a couple of weeks from now pit in. Clemson if it comes down to that that was two years ago. C wonder a loss would affect Notre Dame? Or Clemson, I think it would knock them out. Of course, you're going to have some eighteen playoff rage at the. End too because you know, Paul we can only get four these teams in there. So the Washington states, and you see us they're going to be mad if they don't get in and along with the big twelve teams because the big twelve a little bit of a mess right now. Let's talk about the big twelve. And and what the likelihood is. Or isn't of the way this season ends get laid out for us. We know about the game next Friday nights going to be one of the more intriguing games of the year in college football. But what happens if Oklahoma wins? And what happens if West Virginia wins the next week? Well, I mean, that's the thing. It kinda hinges on Iwa state, Texas because remember Texas beat Oklahoma state beat West Virginia and those teams play this week. So it's kinda like a double sided four way headache to figure out who's gonna go to Jerry Jerry world between those two games. I do think it's going to be Oklahoma. I do think that Bates going to be continued to be about their defense because to me, and that, you know, you know, I'm based in big ten countries that don't give me in too much trouble. If the choice was between Michigan and then Oklahoma. I would think the committee would take Michigan in that defense over Oklahoma. Even though they have. One of the best college football player the country and collar Merck. Bill. Let's just kind of forget the obvious. What the games have to would games have to be played. I if we're sitting here on the Monday after selection Sunday, what's it going to look like in your mind? I think it's going to be what it is. Now, I think those are the four best teams in the country. I don't think Alabama's gonna lose as long as healthy. I think Notre Dame's gonna scare this weekend against Syracuse. But other better football team, and they're gonna get through it Clinton. If you can spot a loss left on them. Go ahead and tell me I'll say throwing later, and I do think Michigan Michigan Ohio state winner will go. I'll put it that way. Well, high state is capable beating them to and because Michigan hasn't won there since two thousand. So I do think the big ten champion wind up occupying the fourth spot, obviously keeping in mind that that big ten champion probably doesn't want Alabama. The lose Georgia. And if that happened, that's the only thing that happens between now. And then what do you think it would look like with an Alabama loss? Well, let's let's be let's be fair. It's a close game. Alabama misses an extra point misses a field goal. The typical the typical drill would Alabama still get in. You know, I think we have the same conversation. We did last year. It would be. Okay. I'll only answer that two ways. If it was the debate was between, Alabama and Ohio State. I think Alabama would go again by virtue of. They lost Purdue by twenty nine points, and the committee won't be able to get away from that be very similar last year, Alabama and Michigan I would think Michigan should go. But I think the committee will take Alabama if that happens, and that's just me valuing a conference championship in it. It'd be awfully close Paul because it's not like Michigan's losses bad seven point loss in south bend in September. True. And again, we we saw last year Bill the tone ten or that big ten championship game made a big difference and had Alabama had had Ohio State blown Wisconsin out of it would have been a different story. Same thing this year though, because that's the one thing. Michigan Ohio state would have to be careful about because they're not going to get. Nobody's gonna watch them beat northwestern and be blown away unless they do it convincingly almost works against them that northwestern has as many losses they do because you'll be like, well, why didn't Michigan beat them by twenty points. Whereas the stages in the SEC's, pretty obvious. It's Georgia Alabama. What we expected heavyweight fight. If Alabama loses close though, it's a big drop from one to five. Last question not a lot of coaching turnover this year compared to a year ago. There have been some reports out today. Dan, dockage from ESPN reporting that Jeff Brom will will leap for due to Louisville. Most people consider that to be fate accompli beyond that where else would you be watching for significant coaching turnover there couple places might open up the watch that care. So we'll move. I don't think we'll have too much in the SEC because we did that last year. There was so many changes as hard to make more than the head the one I'm curious about is USC. I personally don't see why given that they were in a Cotton Bowl last year the Rose Bowl before that. But and they're dealing with a young quarterback, but they lose to UCLA this weekend. And then Notre Dame next weekend. It'd be interesting to see what kind of put on clay help. Fair fair. Fair segment. Bill. Thanks for coming by always. Appreciate your time. Oh, anytime Paul. Thanks for perjury staff. One of the most knowledgeable people in the game. Bill bender of the sporting news Barrett. Salih will join us a little bit later on as well. More of your phone calls at eight five five two four to seven to eight five. We've already had Dan Mullen tomorrow live in Georgia, Kirby smart among our guests. Welcome back to the program. Let's get back to the calls at eight five five to four to seven to eight five. Fill is up next in Georgia. Phil welcome to the program. Oh, thanks for taking my call. Good afternoon to you. John. Randy. Thank you doing George show. I I I'm caller what a call for his. You've had some interviews lately. That did I have really really enjoyed the first one was was Stephen a Smith. Now, man watering interview who'd have ever guessed what that that guy's been through with his life. I mean, it was just a wonderful story. And as a spokesman appreciate you bringing those stories to us. That's so much more than college football to me. And Joe thank you very much. I wish we could do more of that. Because if I could that's really what I enjoy doing. The most is or those type of interviews, and and Steven A just getting to know him and become close friends with him. I felt we could go down that road. And I think because he felt comfortable he was willing to to bare his soul. It was a fascinating conversation. It was it was it was just a great end. Of you, and mentally Jordan and how much older bull about. But I tell you I have enjoyed two of the interviews that that you've had with Tim Tibo this year with I think one was that they'll miss Alabama game. And the other one was in Gainesville when he was end up to into the hall of ring of fame, or whatever they call it. And then with Dan Mullen, and to see, you know, shift that those two still still had you know, that that people do continue a lifetime relationship with coach. And that's what it's all about him. A lot of people miss that. You know, they wanna put everybody down this coast. They want they want to be an armchair coach or armchair quarterback. They don't have any idea. What these guys are? You know, I played a little sports, and you put a lot into it. And you really have a true relationship with those guys win or lose you love them. And and this great that you bring that to the fans to see. And I'm appreciative of that will thank you. You know, I I I'm not a big fan. Of the interview just to just for for interview sake. I think there's too much of that in television where you just have someone on and they don't say anything and to me if you're going to talk to someone get something out of it. Now, there are some interviews. I do that. I wish you could see my expressions during the cameras out on. But there's not much to do about it. I mean, I no matter how good or bad of an interview or you are there are some people that we had we had one not long ago. I'm not going to reveal who it was. And I don't know why the person agreed to it. They gave nothing themselves. They barely answered the questions. And when it was over. I really wondered why why did that person agree to an interview? It was a waste of time in the person was not a very good look while you know, everybody's got their own agenda today. And if you don't agree with me, I've got to be mad you you're all right. And you know, what what is the world come to? You know, just you know, I know that we have a mountain to climb when we get this. You see championship game was Georgia BULLDOGS, and we have not proven anything on the field as far as being where we wanna be. But I will say this curvy is not going to quit chopping wood. Our guys are not gonna quit. We'll go to Atlanta. And we're going to give it everything we have to try to beat Alabama but win or lose. We're going to be proud of our BULLDOGS. Well, said thank you, very much filled deeply appreciate you got nice of the call. Let's continue with more phone calls. Bob in Ohio. Hello, bob. Hey are called quite a bit. I'm big ten guy guy. But I liked the SEC to wonderful. Oh, yeah. Talking for relatives Alabama. So we go back and forth. And I got a great team this year. But you guys already kind of hit on it. We were talking to bender, but they Michigan. I know this is the SEC thing, but you know, two thousand fourteen we were lucky enough to win the national to ship in the next year had probably the best team coming back ever. I mean the way they talk right. I think he said that one time I think we're the best team in the country. Yeah. They lost a vicious stay at the end of the year. Rainy, quit Lynn blowy day. But that's the way it is the big ten so that can happen, right? Many rate and then they didn't get in the playoffs. Well, I'm not not last year Alabama loss of last season. And they were all right. It was just you touch me so crate, but I mean, they got that break what I'm saying this year the big game when they went seventy-one one foles, don't you take your house state Michigan winter should get in. No, no. I do not think the Ohio State Michigan winner should get in because they have to play a big ten championship game. Well, if they win that convincingly. Well, that yes, I would agree with you on that. I would I said something yesterday on. Think it was with Stephen Smith about I believe Ohio states should would get in. If they ran the table. And I thought I was about to be tossed into the East River. I believe that. And, you know, Stephen as well, what do you mean they lost by twenty nine? I realized that and it's not a very good look. But on the other hand, it's you know, you they still would've negotiated you know, I mean they wanted t they won the TCU gain. That did not that's not going to help them. Just like Alabama's win over. Louisville doesn't bright affect them. But. TCU to both those those teams felt after that they put so much into games, and they didn't get any. I mean, they you know, they lost players. They're not as strong as they were beginning ear for that better. Obviously a little right? Well, I mean, both both games. Look to be significant games. They turned out. Not to be worth. A a flip. Jimmy is in Chicago, Jimmy go right ahead. Hey fall. I was actually watching this morning. Got my tension of the replay. But I miss I watched it originally on Saturday. I thought it was just the coolest thing. And I just wanted to applaud Missouri for it. And that was the fact that you know, this past weekend hundredth anniversary of of of the end of war. I or one they dressed out extra players against vandy to honor. They one hundred seventeen Missouri students who lost their wives and World War wind. So instead of wearing their individual names on their back. They wore the names of ever one of those Missouri students that died in world will will one I thought that was so cool. It was just really neat thing to do. And of course, all the schools. I thought an SEC did a great job and. You know, celebrating Veterans Day. But I thought it should be noted anyway, but considering what we're talking about right now that I it almost seems like you and colluded does it seem like everybody kind of wishes we just fast forward everything week to next Jimmy. You know, may I speak the truth. This has been the most boring week of the college football season. Yeah. I mean, you you've got Notre Dame. 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Steven Ruiz joins us to talk about how the Panthers failed Cam Newton

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Steven Ruiz joins us to talk about how the Panthers failed Cam Newton

"The crazy part by boyfriend keeps going back and ordering eggs and getting into fistfights with the same cook. And she's his critics this. There's one part where she's like. I've suggested we go to a different restaurant even a different waffle house and he refuses like He. He must go to that specific waffle house fist. Fight the cook there like Peter and the chicken from family. When you think about it it is funny. Just imagine being in Waffle House and be like. Hey man these eggs are not right. I ordered over easy. And they're like well done and then he's like okay. I got you bro. And he brings you scrambled eggs. And then she's like he brings him a piece of toes with a hole cut in it and like a hard boiled egg in the Middle. Wake like it just keeps escalating. How ridiculous it is behind. It just gave a chicken like not even so funny if he did that. Just a just a chicken. Free tickets talks down food. Hello and welcome to keep sounding podcast as always this is. Brian joined by Brad and John. Brad how're you doing on this fine evening? I am doing great Brian. Thank you for asking. Yeah NO PROBLEM. It makes me feel good that you ask how I'm doing. I always want to check in especially in these times. It makes me feel special. I'm John How are you I'm doing? I'm doing wonderful Brian Good. I'm glad so for this particular episode. We have a special guest. We have Steven Rue us at these Stephen released from four the win USA Today on to talk about Cam. Newton Stephen Are you doing? I'm I'm not doing well. You're not doing just wanted to say that the balance doing wonderful realistic. We're in court scene. Guys just podcast is happy so they have this funny little bit where they decide to They just do a disingenuous. I'm doing great. That's been going on for weeks now. So don't worry it's fine. So for this special edition of the keep sounding podcast. I know there are a lot of panthers fans out there. Who after the draft and everything? Neither were finally done. We know who the panthers draft picks are for the most part. The roster's fleshed out aside from free agents. That may or may not get signed depending on how things go in the off season. They kind of just want to move on from the whole Cam. Newton drama well. Guess what we don't so I brought I love it. I should say we should clarify that. Some of US don't some of US. Don't so steven actually tweeted about something. Said it was a specific quote. Tweet said what could you talk about for thirty minutes straight with no prep it all. And he said how the Panthers Failed Cam Newton and that resonated with me so I was like. Hey come on the show and talk to us about that. So okay so Stephen. You've got thirty minutes. Let's go I the only one talking to sit here. Mike is our planes and video games. In the Ron Rivera. Press conference when he made the comment about the deems. Everyone finishing five hundred. I'll just play that God. Analytics were so looks. Good that one. Yeah I want to say before. We go further into this. I've been watching Recordings of my recordings on my DVR NFL red zone. When I have nothing else on. Tv to watch. And I don't know if it's the bitterness or the fact that Ron has gone it's like A. You can see things with more clarity because you don't have any of that. Hope for optimism or whatever types him because he coach of your team but watching some of these vendors games of the decisions and some of that stuff. It's like why did we not like? Why do we put that for so long like this is really bad? Yeah like kicking kicking a field goal just to avoid a shutout when you by like twenty. I just saw that. I was watching whatever week. That was where they're losing to the Falcons like twenty to nothing and it was the fourth quarter and kicked a field goal in like four thousand four. Because it's like all right now. We've got a point like yeah. You're still down three scores. Good job but hey we didn't get shut out but didn't get shut out. Tom Play the worst quarterback game in the history of football outsiders but stuff like that. The Cam Newton. So we're going to get into a Christian. Mccaffrey taking ninety nine. Percents of snaps as a running back. The cringing announcers calling him riverboat Ron. When he's done when he does things like punt from the thirty five yard line and then he has the audacity to say no I'm analytical Ron. I ever did neither analytical nor are you a gambler yeah but this is the show about Steven Steven. What what would you say? Is your biggest like reason. The Panthers Failed Cam Newton. I mean I didn't even put it on there. I think you gotta put up. The office. Just never really built around him. Beat correct me if I'm wrong. The only off at the players they draft in the first round while he was there was it Kelvin. Benjamin Dj more and Christian. Mccaffrey yes something like that. And he only played one year with Jay. Moore won half a year healthy first McCaffrey. I mean he's a great player but still running back in the first the top. Ten We Kelvin. Benjamin was only in the league. Basically 'cause camping carried them to relevant the right when he left him. He's I don't he's not in the league anymore so that didn't really turn out. Well either. The drafting of a running back. Does it really help your quarterback all that much you help your quarterback with receivers and pass catches in Offensive Linemen? Which the pay absolutely nothing with the offensive line. While he was here. It also did help that Christian McCaffrey. We use was used sparingly in his rookie year despite literally everybody who has ever watched football game looking at him and being like this kid is good fat but he's had a lot. Cheney's run John Stewart aren't yet we didn't see. We didn't see cam in like a good a well-designed offense until two thousand eighteen and we only got a half a year so I would also say the next thing on the list is sticking with for as long as he did when there is like so much evidence that he was not a good coach and they needed to do to move on stubborn Mike throughout his tenure and Carolina that Kinda permeated through the whole team though. It wasn't just Mike Shula just about every single coordinator or position coach. We had as someone who has close personal friends with Ron Rivera. A whether or not they they were worthy of the job or not like Richard Rogers. He has been a tight ends coach a secondary coach a special teams coordinator. He's terrible at all of those things but we kept him because he was literally because he was teammates with Ron Rivera. At cal my even Eric Eric Washington. I don't think he have been a defensive coordinator evident. How Much Sean? Mcdermott had a impact on that defense. After he left like right when he left it went downhill. It it's pretty easy to say. Now in Hindsight Sean. Mcdermott is the reason why why. Rivera even has the reputation he does as a defensive mind. Yes it's like. He was too scared to go. Hire hire new. People like Inter actually interview people for Jobs Win. Coordinators got poached from. This building is the closest to that job already. We'll just give them under role. Just I think the thing about for me because you touched on it that me most mad about the career arc of candidates so far is that he spent what six years with Mike Shula as offensive coordinator is that. How long was I thinks? Oh five or six thousand thirteen to two thousand team. So about five hundred eighty. Oh not replacing was really. I thought was the biggest mistake of his. Like in terms of hiring coaches put on him not defense. Shula over even the dogs matter on very yes in the dog's name Ski Way. Just a little fun fact one of them but yes Mike. Shula does replacing Robertson Ski. Who I think was for the most part pretty good with Mike. Shula who again? I don't know how tolerate that for as long as we did. I guess the two thousand fifteen season right in the middle of it or came just kind of carry the team really kind of softened how bad it was around that year pretty much but having Mike Shula as the majority of Cam Newton's career to this point S. his offensive coordinator is such a disservice to not just can't do it but I think everybody painters fans. Nfl FANS football fans. Just everybody go ahead. Stephen go ahead. Housing to fan bases are usually hard on their offense coordinator. Whether it's Jim it or not but like Nash. About Shoo football people on E. She wasn't just panthers fans. It was pretty much everyone that watches football football teams. Fans hate their offense coordinator. I think both Gordon's especially their offense coordinator because it's a very you know. Every result every negative result gets remembered more than the positive results. But Yeah Mike Shula. I don't think there's any defense for Shula being a good offensive coordinator. There were many games they could have won even with Cam Newton with half an arm in two thousand eighteen where bad play calls fucked them and I think norv Turner. He's an upgrade over my shoe of it. I think it was upgrading from the one of the worst office of Rangers in the League to up to a below average office coordinator. Just just because he's outdated and some of the decision making was so predictable and stubborn. I think we talked about it. A Lot. In Twenty nineteen the amount of times where we try to go heavy formation and right up the middle on short yardage situations despite the fact that it never worked it things like that and I know it was not as an internal again. was basically forced into resigning with the Vikings two years earlier. Did back then pure saying these out. It wasn't like they weren't bringing like offense. We saw the race even know in twenty news. This like Oh we're going to Christian McCaffrey. Let run a sniper out like yeah. You should have been doing that. The whole time just to Christian McCaffrey. Who got a bunch of catches and stuff so but like he was used as a check down out of the backfield and it was never really utilizes a receiver or as a weapon as much as he should have been and it was just. It was exactly what you'd expect if you take a guy that was really good at his job. Twenty five years ago and give them the same job. Now it's like you have. Your ideas are really innovative based on. You can't stale now. Yeah part of it is that Rob Sheds inskeep brought him a lot of norv Turner concepts to Carolina. When I came in so then I guess in Ron Rivera's mind it made sense to have Mike. Shula come in and continue those and then then they just brought in North Turner offer rather than rather than having new offense or try. Try something new. They were just going to continue to use those concepts which in practice might make sense right it. It just kind of proved that didn't really work long term unless Cam Newton was playing like the best player in the League which you can keep the often somewhat consistent without just hiring. Another of your old buddies. That hasn't done well at that job for decades. Yeah I mean Cam made a lot of highlights the things when they brought in Shula he didn't really have the same. Coaching background is to see like I don't know if you guys remember. But like the talk around. When he took over was that they were going to shorter passes and make things easier on Cam when they were throwing deep allow out and I think I'm pretty sure she was. Background is in the West Coast offense so it was a different system. They just it's like they brought in a different guy to coach the same often and it was predictably a mess. Yeah like Hey Mike I know. This is your specialty. But we don't want you to coach that you're just here because you're you just read. Us giving it his job. Because you're already here so it's like my trying you dad's famous because my show has also never really been successful anywhere. He's gone belly was win. At how? How hard is it to win it Alabama? And he couldn't even do it so he he was in office coordinator for the buccaneers. Guess too late night again is a massive gaps. Yeah if to hazard from one thousand nine hundred sixty nine hundred ninety nine for fifteen years later will maybe. You'll be better. But their offense under Mike Shula was in yards per game was twenty eight. Twenty Nine Twenty Second Twentieth and finished in scoring. There's no better than eighteenth and we're like this guy. I think this guy's got it now. It's pretty telling that when he wants to the giants he wasn't allowed to call plays after he left very. That was very funny decision. Yeah what's your offensive coordinator but you don't do your job The part of your job. That's most forward-facing I mean we're laughing at the Patriots team. Let him call the point. I know yes I know right thing didn't want yes but the people involved in that decision aren't here anymore and they can't hurt us anymore. So we can. We can laugh at that too but yeah letting my call the place was like could you imagine I can be around Rivera. I live in Washington. Dc near him again. I can't be me. What do you get back to the canes that I want to hear what you or your expectations are Ron Rivera in Washington? Like he'll be better than what they've had but not great. It's a low bar. I think he's the type of coach in theory that with team that's rebuilding just because he kinda didn't of course he doesn't have Cam Newton in that made his job so much easier. I would not be surprised if it's a disaster. Didn't his head coach now earnings. Weren't that inspiring like Jack Del. Rio which is kind of interesting to do in twenty twenty then the higher attorney Classroom of the panthers and I am anything I don't think he proved his worthy of an offensive coordinator job. Either thought it was so funny that Washington apparently had a you know they've had the kind of the what's it called pipeline of office of coordinators. Like Sean mcvay and Kyle Shanahan in that and apparently there was another guy who was looked at the similar way in Ron. Like get him. Outta here. I gotTA bring in Old Buddy Scott. Turner run the offense. Yeah I forgot about that would take off the back so the very it was another stubborn hired by Rivera Kit rid of they added place already and bringing his own guy who doesn't really have a track record of being offense coordinator all it was like his last two years in Carolina. Starting with when cams shoulder started to go bad on them it seemed to turn into a train wreck and then he gets hired by Washington and instead of using that as a chance to like start clean and bringing a new staff. You've just brought every body of the train wreck in Carolina and early. The working with new. I think the reason why he has his job like Washington probably looked at him and look what he did with this former first pick. He'd made him into a star at future. Mvp but that's not really what happened. If any he's he's the reason why dotting on any anymore. The lead can't play hurt. A bunch of times started in two thousand fourteen when ended up making the playoffs but cam was like beat up any. I think he took like eight sacks in Monday night game against the eagles. And you just tell that he should not be playing anymore and they kept pushing. I mean they got a playoff went out of it but I don't. I still don't think it was worth Lang Cam. Newton the rest of that season. I think that was the season he he got in a car accident two. We broke his back or no. Yeah he like Boca Brunner's back or whatever was that was this. He broke his back into the Patriots. The same season we got in the car accident. I think so yes. There was two thousand. Eighteen is the greatest season in team. History there's a lot of That's a pretty frequently recurring trend with whole leading players. Play when they shouldn't be playing 'cause there to hurt. You mean this past season when when Cam Newton literally and they still let him play against the buccaneers. He's as I do is fine. I mean yeah. He couldn't run but he said he was so we thought he was. Okay yes Stephen. There was a bit of a tangent that one of our writers went off on about but essentially boil down to that. Like Cam couldn't run but he didn't really like tell anyone. But Ron didn't go to him and say you run a forty yard dash me quick like just didn't do that before before the the the buccaneers game after suffering. At least that we knew at the time some kind of foot injury just didn't happen there was like oh well he says findings fine. No big deal trotted out there. That that's what happened in two thousand fourteen to quote gettleman and Rivera saying like cams a competitor and he's GonNa WanNa come off the field. That's exactly the bomb you're going to have to take command and tell them you're not playing. He made years later like that. Your Dad had you. Don't learn from your mistakes and I don't think Ron Rivera. Ever learned from his mistakes starts on fourth and one every once in Ohio conservative after burn of so many times early in his career. He always did that. Job was on the line when like there was no other option like when he was safe he was not going for it on fourth in one unless it was like deep in opposing territory. Spite having a quarterback ever that time remember that time when it was like fourth and inches from like the fifty maybe somewhere around midfield it was early in the game it was just. It was a low leverage situation. It's just a very easy to God. Just go for it. What he had to lose and CAM. Newton had team off the field because Ron rare. Shana pundits in the fifty on fourth and inches or quarter of a tie game. He had the offense freaking out about it. Like kicking punting unit off the field called time out so they could call play and three sure they picked it up. Like go out shocking. That with Cam Newton you can pick up a four inches from midfield that one thing that always made me mad about Ron. Not going forward is not like I could understand it. If we had like will greer quarterback. Who's awful at quarterback sneaks or whatever insert terrible quarterback here you know Mitch Trubisky or whatever Shout out all my bears fans there but he had cam. Newton like factually one of the best fourth in short quarterbacks in the history of the League and he would still not do. It was just so damn frustrating buck. You're one the the worst I ever was. I think. Two thousand twelve against the Falcons win. I think they were. It was fourth one. They could iced the game with the first down and then they ended up. I don't they punched or kicked a field goal miss and then that was the I think it was roddy white in not the more was the safety overnight. Nakimora Rookie Nakimora Aka. The next had read you. Y'All hate on Colin Jones. Bet remember he wasn't her rookie. Nakimora right just remember that. That's what I'm here for. I boost Colin Jones and I boost Brenton Bersin. That is my brand. Are you related to Jerry? Richardson on that. I am not but there is a there is a conspiracy theory out there versus. It's not a conspiracy theory. Allegedly Real Quick Stephen. Have you have you seen that? In depth it goes deeper than just. Brenton Bersin stuck around for a long time Atlanta WOFFORD. No I haven't seen my only thing is the Wofford thing I learned today. Brian Note Jerry. Richardson was neighbors with Brenton Bersin parents and then they split I think ensure and shortly afterwards she was pregnant and by shortly afterwards we need like less than a year later. Brenton Bersin was born. Well Yeah it was like. They split around the time that she would have been known she was pregnant. So yeah so people maybe they. They split because she add it was. Yeah this is. This is getting out of out of hand but yes that was. The timing was suspicious with them being neighbors and stuff. I'm guessing jeans Friday when a little too far my have that we're going to be an interesting side like Panton just put in the. I thought about a Britain Person Conspiracy Theory. I want an ESPN thirty thirty on the Britain. Bursts Injury Richardson paternity even. If it's just one of them's like fifteen minutes short series that they do I want I want. Espn TO GET JEREMY SHOP to get to the bottom of this. No you need like a Netflix. True crime type documentary on it Panther King. I mean I'm sure his brother knows and things. His brother follows me on instagram twitter. By the way just so you guys like. Brian's biggest achievement is lives it puts on his resume and everything from still trying to get. I'm still trying to get Brenton to follow me. I think he was created the me. He doesn't want to do it. You had a Brian's Lincoln page. He's got like a note followed by Britain on social media so speaking of Brenton Bersin though. That's another thing about how the panthers failed came to his his twenty seventeen season. God is wide world wide. Receiver he ever had was Steve Smith and they ran him out of town. Thirty five will but he was still better than anybody else they had. Yeah I mean before you got all tumour. Steve Smith was still playing at a top level for that one year and then he got hurt. But I mean we're talking about they provided Cam Newton with Kelvin. Benjamin Devin funchess. Ted ginn Brenton Bersin Philly Brown Jericho Koch Corpse Leggate a Jira to to who else have we had it wide receiver. Dj More doesn't really count because we drafted him two years ago jared. He didn't make the team though he doesn't go so here. We'll go this year by year. We had a keen knicks difficult. We had a keen next for you so we had the number one. Everyone got excited about US Stephen Hill. Oh my God the jets guy. The guy that was. Hi Dan I was there with. Uber's he tore his ACL. That's still one of the most nightmares things I've ever heard. Like you could hear that dude scream from like five hundred yards. Away was so bad. So the panthers had Greg Olsen for all Cam Newton's time here which is good Africa tight end but his top three wide receivers as a rookie And a lot of teams when they draft a quarterback like to surround them with weapons. Like the Bengals this year draft Joe Borough and then they drafted named T. Higgins right. Yeah so it's IT'S. It's an injury luck they'd have to Hilton in the same draft and some other stuff like that but too yeah. I think. Kobe cleaners correct as well. Sound look into the panthers in two thousand and eleven. What was their second pit? What was their second. Oh we traded away. That's right the two thousand eleven draft other than Cam. What's an absolute shot Joe? Yeah while it's going to look and see like no one other than Cam and cam isn't right now but no other player. We drafted in two thousand. Eleven is still in the league that was drafted Cam. And then we drafted defensive tackles Siani a fool and Tara Maclean and then bring up Hogan so this trade defence. Yeah after that. So that Cam. Newton comes in as a rookie with his top throughout receivers. Being Steve Smith Lega do and Brandon lavelle. He still had a Jeremy shockey as well as Jerry. Yes Jamie Shawki. We'll give a little bit of that. But the Jack. He's gone soon. Get Steve Year. Jeremy shockey it wasn't Prime Jeremy shockey. So you've got old St Smith's in it brandon. Lavelle is right Assira number two and then Louis Murphy was wide receiver number three in your to. I totally forgot Louis. Murphy I too. I forgot about him. He was like super promising to thought. I don't remember him either. He was. I'm looking at this is by targets. Let's see have desperate panthers fans word because I think he got cut by the raiders who oversees. He's Kinda Fast Steve Smith Brandon. The fell Ted Ginn in twenty thirteen when we had a really good team like all of the years. Haven't passing when you know. Steve Smith is aging out of the League and eventually going to run out of town and you never thought to like. Let's put somebody young. That's not brandon. The fell another thing about two thousand thirteen real quick to. They only used the same like five skill position players the entire season. They never had like a a wide receiver. Four or five on the field. It was always the same three guys telling us the wide receiver. Four and five Brad. I I did forget about that too and I. It didn't really get any better. I guess it got a little better with North Turner but as long as Mike Shula was here. It was it was like the top receivers like receiver number four and five only played one two or were hurt. Yeah which I understand getting your best players on the field but you would think to. Have you know various skill? Setzer fresh legs. They're just rotations. Morale of your team will know something. Brennan Ziltser had ninety yards and game of the season. You know just get some guys out there. See what they banned. The two thousand fourteen might be worse than might be up. There with. Seventeen thousand was pretty bad. That's when Britain Bersin really started getting snapped. That was when the mean started my friend because I wrote an article about how he was. I felt he was going to make team. I got flamed by a bunch of panthers fans because so and so other random wide receiver from Clemson was on the team and was an undrafted. Free agent was going. GonNa make it in Brenton. Bersin made it God. Damnit he's stuck around. He's a coach in the in the receivers room. Yes got a lot of grit. I never understood why he got so much hate. I really you know. Brian's Nima side it's not like anybody expected him to be. You know fucking Jerry Rice or anything but in Panthers Old Panthers Fans Panthers. He fumbled the punt in the cardinals. Game is the only reason the game was even relatively close. But he didn't he didn't fumble the punt he'd slid into it and didn't even hit him in the face mask. Yeah he didn't actually fumble it slick possession. He slid into the pun holding his hand. Kind of touching it. But yes I understand. You know if you draft a quarterback and especially given that. They traded their second round pick the year before for what was was that that would have been for our money Edwards. That same jeff is causing. Because you'd have to Jimmy Clausen the year before your money Edwards on the Dalai and the thing is they didn't know they were going to be that terrible and getting on tech and so that's what people they get mad about that trade because they use hindsight. We traded the first pick in the second round no didn't traded our second round pick. We did not know it would be number thirty three overall and if it makes anybody feel any better the patriots took Roz dowling with that pick. So it's not like they took Tom Brady but either way. So I understand like if you can't you know police in that first off season was a new quarterback but it took them until the twenty fourteen draft to take Kelvin. Benjamin and that's only because they completely gutted their wide receiver room because they had no cap space to resign anybody. Yeah and then you draft Kelvin. Benjamin because of the really helped Hollywood's the sound logic that Cam Newton throws high so we just give somebody taller. He'll be more accurate. Act that you cannot teach six five to forty yes. It's amazing to me that was thought to be. The solution is just like we'll give them someone taller. He'd six five to twenty either. Wasn't dropping down but why not just like what if we just got him somebody that could get open and then he would have easier throws to make like no you gotta give them the. Tall Guy and we'll guy so have tall slow guys. That can't get open. Expect candidate to be more accurate. 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Stay on top of it all by listening to pivot with garrison and Scott Gallery. Every Tuesday and Friday. Subscribe on Apple podcasts. Or wherever you listen to podcasts. Is there anything Stephen Though? We have not touched on yet. I was GONNA ask Stephen. Because he's an unbiased outside observers. Did we talk start? What was that? I was going to say we didn't bring up the tie yet tiger for times pack. But I mean this this Derek Anderson throwing interception on that one place that tie gate. I thought you were the Bena. Twenty fourteen can't do not wearing a tie. I'm not wearing a tie. And then not starting in the first place a pick six. Yeah Right Ron game. By the way was that was a very good performance by Cam Newton game. Although I don't even remember what happened at the end I remember the bengals. Kicker missed a field goal. Both KANTER's panther believes that win right. That's what it was the bengals every chance to win the game prior to The the end of the fourth quarter as well. I'm a fucked up so it was just a teams. Did like both teams tried to lose. And couldn't it was a war of a lack of attrition? Was this out. Baird twisted ankles twist in Greg Olson Ankle twists and Cam Newton's ankle my God Serano Vera Benches Cam Newton for not wearing a tie which I don't know I'm not in touch with other teams. It is it common for NFL teams to have a dress code where teams are players. Have to wear a tie on the bus to row James or whatever it was. We've heard not something I've ever heard of before or since. Yeah Yeah. I've heard people being Benjamin for bench for more egregious things than that like being late or something but we're not wearing a tie seems kind of trivial to me and especially because he was dry. I was just about to say that. It's one thing if he shows up in in like a fuck you t shirt with torn like bought like gym shorts or something like he looks like he just rolled out of bed but he was. He was dressed nice. He just didn't have on a tie and a suit jacket or support coast. He was wearing a sport coat and like a sweater vest and a collared shirt. I mean frankly. He was dressed much better than he dresses now. But you know just because he wasn't wearing a necktie it's a stupid rule especially because it was like what was the situation for not wearing a tie. But where was he not wearing the tie on the bus or the plane? Whatever they traveled he was was just somewhere in transit and transit. Yeah it was either the team bus from the hotel to the state to the stadium or on the plane to Seattle. I don't remember which it was but but it was the team travel and wasn't that a Sunday night game. Yes it was a prime night game wasting all day for Sunday night and in the first thing is that Derek Anderson throws that mother fucking interception. I will say it wasn't a pick six. I got returned to the eight. Okay okay. I wasn't even really wasn't Anderson Fall Right. I Remember Eight. Tober right in hands and landed in the hands of the D. But it's just a perfect start because yes yes yes in. Primetime and I. I can't think of a single or time. This has happened where team starting quarterback gets bench to start a game for you know an off the field reason especially because Kim to and also made a comment that nobody really talks about where he said. He thought the outfit was appropriate. Because he's worn something like that in the past. Which makes it sound. Like Ron Verges decided like you know what nothing this now. There's no tie having nonsense we're going to. We're going to send a message input Derek Anderson. Start the game on Sunday night. Football like that. That'll really make your reputation. Look good against one of the best defense is in league in one of the hardest place to play. Yeah in Seattle in Seattle comes into the game seven three and one. You're season is not going. Well they were doing it like in Cincinnati last year on thing and then you lose forty. Two seven yeah. I'll tell you teach your franchise quarterback to where I can't remember but I think that was one of the few times I've written the post game report in like the third quarter and I've just said hey this is over. Y'All have a good one. I'm going to bed because it was out of hand by that point. Yeah Trevan Boyfriend got snaps for the seahawks. Fourth quarter like. They ran for eight yards a carry. It was just. It's one of those things where you're like embarrassed to be a fan team like I can't go out in public after this cons. Ross felt that way but that game was one of those times. What is they stephen? I don't even remember watching the second half of that. I'm pretty sure I turned it off early. And I don't. I don't usually turn off Panthers Games. I don't blame you especially on a Sunday night where it's like you know what? I could just go to bed. Yeah Yeah it was total waste of time and panthers fans get mad now when we don't get Primetime Games on the schedule they're like we don't get prime-time get well because we do shit like that when we do. That's why we don't. We deserve to play at one o'clock on Sunday every week. That's where everything's safe. Yes plus I don't have to stay up till midnight. I guess the last thing I wanted to discuss so Stevens tweet just because I'm sure we'll bring more stuff up with that would you? What other thing we. We didn't talk about yet was Cam Getting blamed for the panthers losing the Super Bowl. Because he didn't dive on a fumble that the broncos are pretty much already recovered. God that gift. Just the bane of my existence. I me it every watched that roll a couple times like all twenty two of it. I still maintain a Cam Newton to not play poorly like eating it rate. He played okay but I thought he played fine. He was not alert by. You'd like he could best player on offense. Yeah couldn't help that Jonathan Stewart got hurt and couldn't help that Mike. Tolbert fumbled the ball twice and he had only fumbled it three times all year if you include the Super Bowl I mean that's not camps fall and it's also not camps fault that the referee's got Jericho Khatri's play wrong or that. The field was so horrible. Horrible net. Mike lower is literally on skates at times. Trying to block demarcus ware. Yes I'd hate. That made the argument that none of none of camps turnovers I think he ended up having three turnovers. None of them were his fault. Like the intercept and bounced off. Ted Kuenz hands which I mean. That's the thing does but that was in the red zone too and then there was the drop in the red zone by. I think it was caught on the sideline male ends up missing. Vehicle is just a frustrating game to watch. That was actually my first week writing at for the land and nobody knew I was panthers fans and they were all rooting. They're all rooting for the broncos. And I was just sitting there like quite. I was under the assumption that I was supposed to be unbiased. And I couldn't like reveal that it was the panthers fan. I was dying inside as they were on profit. If it really was a game of the panthers during the regular season went wrong but yeah the two and then you talked about the intersection. The fumbles both just completely unblocked defenders. Right yeah I was the blindside as long as yeah right after the Khatri play. Which if if the referees make the correct call and they give Khatri catch and he's down and then the next play is still the fumble. They probably don't return for a touchdown and our defense was playing so well. I genuinely think they don't score. They are they probably settle for a field goal. And it's a completely different game. I don't think about Kony ealy having a hall of fame performance net. Anything big ten for the rest of the read getting traded to the Patriots so the pants can move up eight spots in the draft and it turned that'd be a great trade for the Panthers of eight spots. Yeah I'm looking. I'm watching any of the Patriots Roster nope on the on the first fumble. Mike Rimmer is basically just access a tackling dummy for. I can't tell you it is there. Isn't it might be now's Miller. Is It von Miller? I didn't demarcus ware. Recover it but basically Mike rimmer is does almost nothing slowdown me Jackson. Michael Jackson okay. Yeah I've honestly I've drank that game away. Am I? Grammar is let's von Miller Basdeo uncontested into the backfield and he rip the ball away from from Cam Newton and he recovered for a touchdown. There's actually goes. Ted Gins hands and gets intercepted over fumbled one. He took one of them only field. Yeah those are his only two. Fumbles as a panther in his career. Yeah he played it to the right. Perfect time to do it. And in the other the other fumble was Mike Rumors got beat again and Cam just got ahead his hand as he was throwing it that was late in the game. Right it was four minutes left here. Everybody were trying to make the comeback. Yeah that pretty much sealed it and people like to show the the the Jif of him backing off of the fumble when he starts to step away demarcus. Ware has his hand completely on the ball. Yeah not like the ball is sitting there. And he's like oh no I don't don't get hurt. Don't get hurt and is it remers. That almost gets it away from him. It's one of the Lineman but that guy had way better shot of recovering the Baltin candidate. I think him of the the ball actually gave panthers the best chance of recovering the fumble down for it and then it got knocked away and hit two reps and recovered on the five yard line. Here's here's how dumb. I was after the NFC championship game. I remember being disappointed because I thought the Super Bowl is going to be a blow out. Does this is ABC cassette one and if you remember at the top of the Broncos were much like limping into the super bowl a steelers team that everyone was hurt the only reason they beat the Patriots the Patriots GonNa Block them. I just thought it was GONNA be a blow out for the panthers anti-climactic and little did I know. They still maintain to this day that if New England found a way to win the AFC championship game. It would have been a blowout. I think we would have beaten the shit out of New England without a doubt. Check does not defend Camden. Yeah and Wade Phillips seems to be the only coordinator who knows how to just completely neutralize cam and we call beat the shit out of him every chance you get strategy. We just happened to face the wrong team in in the Super Bowl if New England would have we if New England would have played instead of Denver. We would have won. We also didn't really have the coaching staff to really counter. Two weeks worth of game planning from a really good defensive coordinator. What do you mean counter? What does what does that word mean. That mean. I thought we just we tell them what we're GONNA do. We just do it game plan. Yeah we got our game plan out. There will be stick with from START TO FINISH. Because the Broncos basically just like manned up everybody and blitz every play and. I think what? You really should have done this. Try TO RUN LEE. Probably just like run CAM more. Yeah yeah think what they did was they. Would they had a linebacker watching the running back to the RHINEBECK stayed in blitz? And if they went out they'd fall out there. I don't know why they didn't adjust because that's what they were doing all year. They were keep it in a bunch of people to block along the Light Bulb. Go off in the second quarter to send those guys out and then you have only a four man. Russia don't have to worry about blocking five. Yes that's what I'm saying like this is where you you you spread them out. You know maybe go like five lie empty backfield and get everybody out in pass patterns and then that opens the field for if there are unblocked defenders Cam canal run. But we can't do that because one of the top three receivers wasn't hurt so the fifth guy couldn't play so so we have cam six carries that game which was one more than Mike Tolbert. Who for some reason consistently got carries while he was here and never did anything with them? Eight hours third ones. Don't fail on their own. It is he at five years three point. Four three point six two point one four point one three point three yards per gary fullback. Right there. Yes that's exactly what he was but we thought he was a running back. He's third down like scat back but he weighs two hundred and fifty pounds and didn't we have Fauzi Whitaker at that time or was he hurt yet. He also had four carries in that game. Yeah so why? Don't we just go to Fosse instead of Tolbert because Michael Rookie veteran ability my friend my Tober is bigger very depressing questions to be asking about. We didn't give the ball the fog instead of it's Panthers Fan. I mean Jonathan Stewart got hurt. Predictably I mean we still had cameron. Artis Payne Yeah. That would been a good time to get a look at Cameron. Artis Payne another look at them. They didn't have enough by then. That's xfl league leading. Rusher Cameron Artis. Payne. Fucking hate Ron Rivera. Yes see this is. This is what I was talking about at the beginning of the show where watching Panthers Games nat like knowing that Ronald has gone. You don't have to cling to any sort of like you justification for the bad decisions and watching them now is like. Wow My god we dealt with that for so long. It was so bad it was so much worse watching it now than I realized it was. At the time I think in October. Two Thousand Eleven October. I said AH I second month it was. I think it was game against the Saints Early Season Number at one point. Maybe I'm remembering is wrong. But he called the time out at the end of the having gave the saints time to kick a field goal otherwise got to feel the ended up winning the game by three points. He's rash. His rationale was that they have got a twelve yard penalty. Even if you are twelve men on the field penalty guess. What even if there are. The clock stops anyway. Like there's no point of taking the time out. I was done within that time management long long nine years. So do you feel good about not rule? I feel better than I did. When he was first hired because there was those quotes about him saying like when we run x amount of times with this record which is obviously something. You don't really WanNa hear because it doesn't make sense but yeah yeah right since then I I. I've liked what he said. It's like how they handled the damn noon situation. Obviously but I don't think that was all him. I mean he's one everybody's been I don't know about his. I don't know about Phil Snow. I don't know what to expect him because he's not gonNA play the same defense we saw at Baylor. That was a big twelve defense. They rushed three every down. Basically I don't think we're going to see a lot of that. I don't know that over expect. You don't know that they might three every down kind of what they do. Justice knew what I mean. I know what will happen but I WANNA see it. Say They Win Games in the big twelve. You know you never know yeah. I'll wait and wait until probably October until I give up on him to. Let's see she can make it to November and then he'll beat Ronald Reagan. I pulled up the play by play from the game. You're talking about the saints at Third and twenty and drew brees completed a twelve yard pass in inbounds and I don't think they had any timeouts and Carolina called a time out with two seconds left with eighteen seconds. Left the saints have no timeouts and they're gonNA kick a forty five yard field goal for and Carolina calls time out so that they can settle down and get everybody like you know organized so they can kick the federal and how much they lose by Nike. It was three thirty to twenty zone. There was another thing there was another thing end ended the. I remember the two thousand eleven season vividly as the game. I Ju- brees was like driving the team down. And they they were like on the twenty yard line already and there was like a mid thirty. Maybe two minutes left. And Ron Rivera did not use any of his timeouts. Even though you know the saints are GonNa Score. It's drew brees and you're not going to run out of time if the if you're on the twenty yard line two minutes left you have more than enough time like use your time. Timeouts save enough time to make a comeback. He didn't do that. And The saints ended up winning at the. I don't think the panthers really had time to launch a comeback. This is just a frustrating game all around and I came upon Ron Rivera and I've never give them since even fifteen in one. I didn't forgive him and he said he was saying game right. Yeah I believe so. Yes they They're they're they're in the red zone with to the red zone with basically a little more than two minutes left in the game and they end up they take it all the way down to fifty seconds before they score. Carolina's get a chance to they sell out at midfield. The other thing about timeouts while the saints of the ball. Yeah sign out. Number one was called by the panthers with forty two seconds left in the game when they had the ball ons me. It's it does for all of us the other thing that he did a lot. I like how the Panthers Failed Cam. Newton has turned into what Ron Rivera did wrong. As the coach of the panthers the answer to how to the panthers fail came to just be Ron Rivera at that but Stephen said several times. He thinks it's more the front office than it was. Wron- yeah I'm interested in. I think John is what he's going for. Is Stephen Wise at the front office? Then Ron I mean a lot of it was what had happened before. Cam Newton even got there with what Marty. Ernie didn't the CAP in two thousand ten when he was trying to keep together. I like seventy nine team resigned to running backs and then Dave gettleman never I mean today. Get them credit. They didn't really have cap space when he came aboard and but he never surrounded him with talent. Either like the crazy things we spent all this time talking about Ron Rivera when Marty Hernia and Dave gettleman arguably the worst GM's of the last decade or at least the most criticized GM's was the last decade. That's how poorly they cam. Newton was handled that Ron Rivera coach. I mean he ended up winning to coach the year awards was probably the worst aspect of his career in Carolina. When you have those two. Gm's lurking in the background. Yeah who's worse Dave Gala? Mary Harney or have this out of the three rank and power rankings. Mardi Harney one. Mardi hurry to Dave gettleman. I'M GONNA say I'm GonNa Mardi Harney no aren't learning one. Drafty Cam Newton and Lucci Lee. So I'M GONNA put him third. I'll forget second and I'll I think Mardi honey to you is the worst so far. You think he's been the worst afar. Wow Okay I don't I don't know like he's what is he done better than he did his first time. I think he's been a little better about the Christian. Mccaffrey contract is a million times. Better than the Deangelis Williams and Jonathan Stewart contracts were even with the relative cap rise definitely. It's definitely a better investment but we have more information. Now that tells us not to overpay running backs or pay running backs like at least in two thousand ten. It wasn't like as frowned upon as it was now and there wasn't all this evidence out there showing you that running backs aren't really worth paying. Now you can argue that Chris. Mccaffrey is a different type of running back. But I think that argument because I know you know it. Yeah that's my my justification for it is. He's not just a running back. Like I would be very upset if he pay Derrick Henry that deal for example. He's also overpaid for slot receiver. I'll say that both Yadda Yadda combine it through. You're not gonNA convince me. That was a good sign. By one get rubber also depend on his utilization really to accurately gauge whether the contract worth in my opinion because if he's still running the ball like up there with the top running backs in the league and running it up the middle the no. It's not worth it. But if he's fifty fifty catching the ball running the ball maybe can justify it but really it really depends on his production and how they use them which is entirely on Matt Rule to prove to us that it was worth signing in at this point while my my biggest problem with the contract was I didn't think they needed to sign it when they did. They still had years of leverage that they could have used usually Makalu martines at least explore those options. They don't just give into the running back like last time. This happened with Todd Gurley. They signed him two years before they needed to sign him and he was. He's at arthritic knee before his contract even started the new contract even kicked in. That's fair I'll give you. I think already to has been a little better than one just but I think here's what I think is like the big indicator of how savvy your front offices The Panthers don't trade down they only trade up and I think that's a sign of a not smart front office just like that simple. The only thing that I'm saying Mardi I'm putting Marty one last just because he drafted Cam Newton and lieu keithly like give him an and cam. Newton was a no-brainer. Picking and leuke. Klay was no brainer. Pick too so maybe I maybe I'm ranking and that's the only reason I haven't last if you take those two moves out. I put him I. Oh yeah but yeah like with Dave table just like the Hubris involved with the whole like I know who my guys are some to go get him. Not You know not playing. The game at the draft is increase. Your chances of getting good hits by getting more chances. But the fact that we're like every fan base wants their team to trade back right because it means more pigs more chances for hits so you need a team. That's dumb enough to give up assets to not really improve their odds of getting a good player. And that's always the panthers. A I met back Everett round pick. Yeah Well Marta was real bad at it at like with ever brown and our Manny Edwards in that and then Dave gentleman was just as bad and a martyr and he's been like this versus been a little less bad. They still get greg little and apparently Matt rule arbitrary down. So that's Brownie points for Matt Rule Martin and he's like no we dare Brown's better than multiple trump. Ix right analogy before. Don't remind me about that I've seen before it's like this off. Season has just been so disjointed between the coaching staff in the front office like from the outside looking in. It's like like a one net account but two people have access to World War. One documentaries on it but there's also like love is blind and like reality shows it just doesn't make any sense in conjunction. I don't know what the team is. The Franck is doing is doing this off season. I'm interested to see how it goes. Hopefully it ends up with the panthers drafting Trevor Lawrence next spring. I I am curious. 'cause YEAH. I think that's going to happen. I think we're GONNA be that bad. I think we're going to be too good to get Trevor Lawrence. I've started to come around to thinking the panthers. We pretty bad burr. Going to be bad. I'm not saying they're going to be good. I just don't think they're going to be like one in fifteen two and fourteen bad. I mean I think with Teddy Bridgewater and Joe Brady. They could win five games. And I don't think five wins is going to be bad enough to get Trevor Arts unless they it just depends on the other teams. That are bad are like the dolphins went five and eleven and got to what fourth fourth because. Yeah because the teams in front of the net quarterbacks so it just depends on. Who's worse everybody's every team always looks like they improved every all season pretty much and like Hannah with the time that's passed and seeing how much other teams like receivable improved S. I I you know I could definitely see the panthers going for foreign twelve clearly. The worst team in the in the NFC south. I think that's even debatable. I think there'll be an enjoyable for twelve as much as I think. There's a way we talked about. This is a win win. They're bad there's hope for graphics if they if they're good is just a pleasant surprise but the only other team I feel like the other teams I feel like are in competition with the band is going into season are Jacksonville in Washington. Yeah I agree. I think that week. Fifteen game against Washington is going to be the Trevor Lawrence. Both or UNISEX OUR I would not mind ending up with Justin feels by the way I think he plays Watt Light Cam so I I wouldn't mind them getting him but the reason why. I'm more skeptical about them. Is like the Job Radi higher but I think he still has a lot to prove he spent one years offense coordinator he wasn't even really office coordinator passing game coordinator and apparently lsu became the best team at stealing signals last year in the country. And that's part of the reason why they were so good on offense. The other part is they had like eight. Nfl Pros on the team. So he's going to go from having a talented advantage of not having that anymore and I think on our roster to that's frozen Nelson well the combination of bad even so. I think we all agree that the panthers defense is going to be bad. Yes most likely in Teddy Bridgewater Conservative quarterback. I don't think that's a night a good a good match so I mean down on a lot of games in bridgewater not forcing the issue which he should be doing. Just you wait. Pj PGE WALKERS GONNA come out and light on fire after. He doesn't make the team on. He's not going to be I WANNA hear about Mr Sherbert. Panthers going to draft a quarterback over here. Pj WALKERS NOT GONNA make the team. Yeah you get out of here. I WanNa hear this science dealing thing. I've ever heard that before. Yes so I mean I got this from. This is like sources. But it's not like sources in the no but they heard it from like high school coaches who are in this like a lot because of the recruiting pipeline. So apparently that's a big deal in college football. I think Bruce Feldman from the Athletic Rhoda article about how how big. It's become because college defenses. Don't use the communication devices that you signals so get good at doing signals. That's a massive advanced apparently. Lsu was the best not only in the SEC but in the nation so much so that a lot of SEC coaches started. Lobbying for helmet headset because of lsu specifically. I didn't see I never heard. That is not anything legal right easy all right. They just got good at deciphering. Everyone does it so every day. They just got very good at it. I think that just makes I don't even know who is calling really calling. It just made offense look even better than it was and obviously they have all these pros artists. I saw something it was like Joe Brady called pass play like like I don't know it was. It was split between like he was like and whoever the other guy was called the between the twenty and run plays or something like that. A weird I don't know college weird. They don't have like regular setups. It's like asking game coordinated three step passing game this darling. Downs third downs red zone and pass plays Joe. That's your call first and second down other guy that your call but for inside their own ten. This third guy says it's when he gets involved you can get second in fours. Threes pregnant is on the second four. That's yeah 'cause that's your down to be creative. That's that's an interesting little nugget that Yes that's that's also an adjustment. 'cause YOU'RE NOT GONNA be able to steal signs getting related to to linebacker helmets. Everything else suggests that. Brady's a good coach is really well designed and he fit that offense to Joe Boroughs skill set. So that's encouraging that's all. You WanNa see coaches creative. Play designs in. Does he adjust his talent in job. Radi check both of those boxes last year. Yeah Control and he's familiar familiarity with Teddy Roosevelt as well so this term. I don't know if we've talked about on the show. And then it's bad time to wrap it up. Have we talked about? The State House stereotypical the panthers. Coaching staff is no. We haven't like Matt Rule. It head coach is dislike motivator. He talks like a pastor. Like you know brings things together. The defensive coordinator is this older guy. Who's real rugged and has got this tough guy mentality and then the offensive. Coordinator is dislike young bikes. You know young whizbang wears glasses and looks like a nerd. You're saying are our. Coaching staff is a bunch of guys on the walking dead. Is that what you're getting? I don't know anything about the walking dead so as this coaching. The walking dead should've been the nickname for the coaching staff last year. Actually if this coaching staff is what was what was the previous sections to have. But I think was like an episode of like Hogan's Heroes or some other show from the seventies. It was what you would expect from the classic run the football play defied mindset and. I'm not saying I'm a edge and you win the game. Yeah the classic like nine thousand nine hundred eighty five eighty five. Coaching STAFF STEREOTYPE. All the twenty. While the twenty twenty panthers are like the two thousand twenty. Coaching staff stereotype. Yeah that's that's good call because you have linebacker at head coach that makes sense. Like no one's hiring linebackers head coaches anymore. I think the national I would hire. Yeah but I think that's what I'm talking about like these like defensive-minded guys. There is a very like brute. Force approach to football which is getting kind of phased our outpaced by more analytical approaches to football which tinted offensive minded. People and younger thinks defensive. Guys like to say we're going to be tough. We're GONNA establish the running run down people's throats and then and then one happens and they're like all the boxes. I'm scared they. Yeah now and that's can no longer beat up your dad as yes we dealt with for nine years. Yeah fucking Ron Rivera. Ernie's the only thing left and I've been okay with Mardi Ernie to point out but I there are. There are concerns and I think it might be a situation to where I'm just Blind I like a shielding myself from the negatives because he still here like with Ron Rivera. For so long. It was yet. I mean that's what you have to do. And it's funny. How he disliked. Kinda stuck around like it was never like formally announced that he was the outlasted. Give it to him. He just kinda like he was interim gm and then after a while he just kept you just kind of like. I'm GONNA call myself. Gm for short but I'm still the interim GM and then he just stopped qualifying GM. Now they even are on the payroll like Oh you just showed up like office space. They couldn't interview people for like promotions because he's the GM so they had to interview them for non GM roles. I know that Matt Rule said something about not even Matt Role. I think it was David. Everybody said something about having Mardi Harney take more of a backseat role and moving somebody else into like be more active as far as like scouting and whatnot goes. We keep having come in front of people like that. We keep hiring people that like lessen his role like we just hired that guy from the eagles to be like are pro scout the director of pro scouting or whatever so it's like he's being gradually like every aspect of his job is being replaced by somebody else. He's done everything but Fire Marty. Harney or let him go. 'cause MARDI hurting just won't leave. It's fucking Mardi. Ernie maybe maybe tapper. Thanks Marty honey is the Jerry. Richardson Statue is not allowed to get. That's probably part of the contract so that you could never fire Marty Herni. You gotTa work for you in some capacity. He's going to become a figurehead like a monarch wherever everybody else in the in the building. We'll have more power than him. But he has like the highest title and I'm fine assistant to the team president. Yeah I mean I'm fine with that you can call him. Emperor God whatever you want. As long as he's not in charge just kidding to pay him the GM salary but not having to GM stuff sounds like crepe business. Exactly I mean he's got money to burn so let them burn it so I think that about wraps it up idea. So thanks for coming Stephen Yes David. Is there anything that you didn't get a chance to talk about now? Another thing like I hit on the saints. Two thousand eleven game. That's the one I really wanted to. It's been nine years and you're still like that is under arrest on panthers twitter. We need to discuss it. I'll make sure to plug that we're going to get it out there for you sold. Stephen. Why don't you let us know what you have going on on your side of twitter? What in your world with USA Today and for the win and whatnot to new NFL podcast? It's called the counter I think it's been pretty good so far. We're still finding our footing. The logo is really good. That's what I'm proud of that. And everybody knows though good logo the most important part of here audio podcast. That's right. The discussion sucks but the London during the logo. Yeah that is nice. It's a run play. That's yeah now I have to hold on just a minute and we're still here and got a little get the little sea-going going on for the counter block under the team. And he got the going out for the for the little verbal description of logo for your podcast. That's actually what the podcast it is talking about plays you. There's no visual you just talking about the concept you be quiet. I kick my my room for the podcast so you hear that yeah you hit a high pitch whining. Sounds like a little yappy dog. It's the IT's eighty pound German shepherd. Nikki Yeah what he does. He gets real mouthy. We're on here these Mala time. That's why he burned yourself with wax on Sunday. That you know about that Brad did you did I. 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A few minutes ago. Also Ryan McGee joining us from Omaha where it looks like maybe the weather is clearing up a little bit, there have been there taking the tarp off the field guys. So that means that there will be baseball tonight. They have had some lightning out there and have had some delays, but the game will be played as we were watching our live shot the crowd sparse at the moment, but we've had to lightning shots here in the last hour. So understandably, people have been careful. Let's get back to the calls and talk to MAC in Florida. You're on the air. Go right ahead map. All what's going on? Hey, they're good afternoon. My call. But you got this bet with all, pal Jim Harbaugh the bets officially off because we, we made the bet he did not respond. So if you don't respond to the bat, there's not much we can do it looks like it looks like he made another in game decision that blew up in his face. He should've gone for. That's funny. But time for another question because I had a quote, how shirl to take your thanks you heard. Reggie Bush recently, you know, he was pretty high on rind like Michael, Michael p Ron. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I guess a little biased fan, but I mean, you think he could be the best back in the conference or. Feel-good too. I don't know who else. Yeah. Listen, I, I think. Possible. But I'd like to see more. Yeah, it's gonna be his main backfield now Carlos gone. So. I didn't hear the whole what exactly did Reggie say? She just said that, he's, you know, watch the I guess, pilots of them, and he just thinks he's going to be really good. Someone's keep an eye on. Well, I'll tell you what. I I'm not being dismissive about it. I guess you, I really haven't given it much thought. But he certainly he certainly will be in consideration. Thank you for the call, really do appreciate that. Chris Tuscaloosa, Chris. Go right ahead. Hey, paul. How you doing today? We're doing really well. Thanks a lot. Good. Hey, I just have one question I was talking with some of by buddies today and we were looking at the list of Alabama's roster. And they had a list of like their top twenty five players. Most important, and I asked my friends, I said, you know, what are the chances of Alabama women would all this gin? And one of my friends said Trevor Lawrence he is a transcendent talent. And with won't be able to do it while he's at Clinton's. And what do you think about that, Paul? Well, I, I agree. I think he is. But I'm not sure you could you could find much fault with to either. I don't think it. I don't think those quarterbacks will necessarily determine the national championship. I think I think both sides of the ball will play a role here and and I think Alabama's offense is good enough to counter. If if Alabama is. Defense is better than it was last year in that game. That was really the problem, the Alabama defense was out of sorts tool was out of sorts Alabama couldn't convert when they needed to. And they let a I wouldn't say it was a winnable game, although Alabama was in a position at one time to maybe put some distance between them and, and Clemson. So one player cannot win a national championship. Yeah, but thank you so much. Really appreciate you. Thank you. But do I think he's the best player in the country? Absolutely do. I think he looks like one of the best players we've ever seen. Yes. But a year ago, guess what we were saying the exact same thing about to talk about low. Back to the P, Ron conversation. I just think he's one of the better backs but I think I think Georgia may have a claim for that as well. Let's go back to the calls and Jim. No, not that one is calling next. Thank my call. Thank you, Jim nicer you call. Oh, sitting there. Racking my brain. I don't know if being married to the same wonderful woman for fifty four years. It's got anything to do with it or not on the only fifty four years. Yeah. Yeah. Only. Man, I was talking about leasing feel. I was there. Can't remember the year but I'm gonna tell you what happened. Sitting on the east side of my friends, I and my buddy had a little TV ran on. D batteries. Lack of wide. And we watch the TV and listen, cross at the press box, and we knew Keith Jackson was over there for sure. And. Alabama. We're not gonna have time was the lead of I'm, I'm going to say thirty two to three or something like that. Who were they playing I'll get? Oh, okay. I'm sorry. I didn't mean to ask the pertinent question. Second ask comes up. And there's four back this little saw quarterback. Comes back and just thumps Alabama. His name was Doug Flutie. Yeah, you're a you're absolutely right. I do. Remember that game? I think it was a Saturday night game in early September Saturday afternoon game. And I don't remember the year. Yeah, yeah, I do it was probably nineteen eighty four. Coach Bryant was still coaching that no, no he wasn't. No. It was a set. Listen, I could be off. It's only been thirty five years, but I'm pretty sure it was a Saturday night game first week of the year, and Doug Flutie Ray Perkins was the Alabama coach. And I don't know about Obama had that big of a lead, but I do know that Doug Flutie led them. They had played the year before in Foxborough. And this was the second game. But I'm pretty sure I'm almost I mean, I would say, I'm positive coach Bryant was gone. Okay. Well, I was thinking, coach was still there, because the reason I was there a friend of mine that I went with his brother was, was coaches right hand. Right. In kids. We went down there to pick him up to bring it back to Russellville Alabama, but I could be like I'm saying fifty one I will find out, but, you know, listen, I'm. My memory of that air is better than than what it is. Or was it yesterday? So I remember the night, very well. I mean Flutie just just just just ripped Alabama to shreds, that was, yeah. That was the year that he think I was eerie won the Heisman or what's next. I think it was that year that was area the famous play against Miami at the end of the year. Right. Because Brian died in January of eighty three. Okay. Right. This game was September eighty four. Okay. All right. Thank you. I could not remember but, you know, on now call back in the sixties, do things like that, too. That's okay. And I'm going to double check, although there are a few things that I'm, I'm certain of in my life anymore. But, but this year is one of them it was it was it was quite a season. Because Alabama ended up with a think they ended up a losing record. Yeah. The game was September eighth starting at seven pm, by the way out Obama lost thirty eight to thirty one. Oh, it was terrible. It was terrible. I you know, you felt like one of your friends diet or something. Yeah. Well, you know what that was just the beginning of a very terrible year because Alabama now what Alabama did that year to save the season was beat a beat Auburn that was the famous Bogo the wrong way game that game all Auburn had to do was a score from the one yard line. And then. And they were going to the Sugar Bowl and Bo Jackson got confused on the play. And he went to wrong way and got got stuffed and the turned out to be one of the more famous plays in Auburn Alabama history, the most famous iron Vos who the hell is Alabama's quarterback in eighty four. I'm guest. I'm thinking was Mike Shula. Really? Okay. Five-man. Thanks. Thank you. Well going down memory lane. There. Let's continue with candle in Saint Louis. Hello candle. You are next up. How gonna call thankful. So thank you. Thank you very much. What can people think we not winning tenseness it, though? Alabama. What, why why what KENDALL people think we have gone back to the play offs and winning the national championship? You know, I think people what they see last is etched in their in their memory, and it's been a fairly negative off season for Alabama. And, and I think there's this. I think there's a there's a there's a feeling that Clemson is the same team as it was last year. Well, if you watch the night of the NFL draft, a lot of those guys were gone. Yeah. Clinton I feel clips, it will be back. But speaking to your person that in Florida on the Michael p line, right? He's probably a top five if you see that wouldn't say the best. Yeah. No, I think you're really good. I think he's really good. But I but I think you'd get an argument from every Georgia fan in the country that. He's better than what they have. Hey, thanks KENDALL hate to run. We are hitting that bad weather that game and eighty four that was Kari. Gouda believe was leading Alabama in the first half of the tour tours knee up, and it was downhill ever since Alabama ended up with a losing record that you're thinking about this. It was first losing record in twenty five. Years. We are heading to the break. More of your calls at eight five five two four to seven to eight five. Love to hear from you listening to the Paul finebaum show podcast for back in grabbed more calls. How about junior next in Louisville junior? Thank you. Good afternoon to you. We'll, I've you go about the, the people wanted about the NCAA, man going forward is still have right. I I've been there for a long time. Thanks to macabre just called. But I have to respond to this just that guy from wherever up north, where where he's from because I, I was gonna racing Bedwar born the fourth of six, my mother father, both from out of them. I know all about. And for people that, what wearing something, but the south and dead. But thanks is is just ridiculous in England. And all I want to say one last thing is there all think Mark. Louis Farrakhan shop, to on the other side, you know, I don't know. But I'm independent, but I said, I'm sitting. Hatred is a theme. And you take for someone because they're Nath nail color, and they say, it's feeling. I don't care what you gotta what else once we realized to hate is they will stop, spewing it. They will take about cough. They have a blessed day during your pleasure to hear from you. Mike is in Monroe, Louisiana. How am I? Hey, paul. My name is Mark Thompson. I'm from Monroe, Georgia not sorry about that. A couple of states over I was wondering about I was wondering about Rick flair and holding they ever cross fast. I may defer to can yes, we have a wrestling expert in our room, who knows all these guys. And he says they have had to turn out well. I mean, ho ho could be considerably, well he'd be older than flair. I thought so local like he'd be older than everyone. But anyway, one question I'd like to ask you, is that? What was that, Mike? I said, one other question. I'd like to ask you being a being ex walk on from the university of Georgia seventy seven as a partner and working out with opponent place kickers. What are you thinking about hot rod from the university of Georgia's SC got a chance to really make a difference at the university of Georgia? I hope so anyone with that type of name, I'm a fan of. Hey, thank you for the call. I wish I could have offered more to you on the on the wrestling front. But I'll, I'll text Jim Ross and he'll still call you with all the answers. Thanks for the call. Really do. Appreciate it. Tim is up. Next Tim, go right ahead. Hey Paul Long time. No talk to you. I'm a longtime listener, and I haven't really been able to get in now that you big time. But you are the thority that I need on topic. Thank you. I can't wait to help. So I know you don't remember me but I'm Birmingham guy. But I do a lot of working LUSA. And I got a lot of Bama guys, I gotta deal with over there. You can imagine as an Auburn guy, take a lotta crap. And I have brought up the topic of the Auburn, triple crown baseball basketball and then football to the to the college playoff and I can tend that if they make it this year in twenty nineteen does it 'cause football playoff, but that would count as a triple crown. They say it had been last football season. I say calendar year, they say academic you, what are your thoughts on that? You can be well, yeah, Tiger Woods to claim the Tiger Slam. He went off. He won four straight majors, but they were in different years, and it's not official. I, I am saddened to tell you. I don't think it would count because the the officials school calendar ends this week with the end of baseball. What does that got to do anything to nothing? Nothing nothing but the facts. What, hey what I'm gonna make you a promise him. If Auburn gets to the college football playoff. I'll count it because if that happens, then we all will be very surprised. So that's my next question. If you got another second. What are your thoughts on that possibility? I would need, I would I would I would never go outside and smoke. Some, some pretty serious. We'd before I would go with that prediction. Oh, come on. It's all about the quarterback. Right. And by the way, I if there's any hanging around, I'll go outside. I just I you know, listen, I, I, I'm not about to make a statement on on a live show. I can be can be well, I'm going to go ahead and make their Auburn is not going here. Here we go. Auburn is not going to the college football playoff. Paul ball ball. You know, it could happen. All we got. We got Bama, Georgia at home. Oh, yeah. I did. I'm well aware of that are defensive stout. You got admit gimme that defense rates. We got weapons at the receivers. We got a good line coming back. It's all about the quarterback. Yeah. Right. I think we've got two good candidates that the quarterback. I noticed I noticed a stretch, but you. You bet. You would. Oh, you do me a favor. I mean, and I know you're in Birmingham, right? That's right. A lot of friends there in the medical community. Would would you be willing to be drug tested? Oh, I would but. I tell you what, I don't know anyone who is of sound mind that is willing to predict they'll feel Phil still. What is what does feels still predicted? I don't know. I haven't looked at magazine either. I'm just saying. I just don't. I don't know. Any, any president outside of a member of the mouse on family, even would make up. Would make up addiction. All I want you to do is promise me, one thing when they make it I want you to I'm gonna call back in. You're gonna probably that you're gonna tell me on air, you counted as lamb as a triple person. I don't I just don't think it's a I mean, listen, I make a lot of gutsy statements on this program from time to time but saying Auburn is not going to the college football playoff is one of the easiest things I've ever said. I'm talking about counting it as a triple crown, if they were to do the impossible, and make it, don't you think that there are you? Are you a much on the theater? No. Because there was a great play many, many years ago. I remember my, my parents took me to a called man of LA Mancha in in in, in the play. And it's a it's a true story about your Ventas the lead actor, the lead protagonists things are song called the impossible dream. So you're going to me. Telling me to dream the impossible dream, that's what you are doing right here on this program. Nothing wrong with that. Get drug tested and we'll talk tomorrow. The th-annual is up next and the thing you'll go right ahead. Hey, how you doing Paul? We're doing great. So how about them though? Maybe two thousand nineteen that is coming to. Man. That's, that's what I call a great final call for this segment. Enthusiasm optimism. I don't wanna go back to the Auburn call. I think every fan of every fan base should be confident by the way, he did mirror, RIC flair's stepson earlier, who had a similar prediction. But, but I can understand it from the nature. Boy steps on much reckon understand it from Tim from home would album anyway. Baseball is coming up here and few minutes, the game is on tap for a normal start at seven. We'll head out there for a preview coming up here in just a moment. We will not go completely dark. We'll be on the radio to the next thirty minutes. Listening to the Paul finebaum show podcast. Your home is important. That's why gyco helps make it easy to save on homeowner's insurance. Because home is more than just a place. Home is where you have a cute little reading, nut for those rainy days, when you want to curl up with a good book, but you don't even read so you just sit in there during thunderstorms and scroll through means on your phone and laugh in the darkness. The geiko insurance agency could help protect the dark mean filled corner, you call home. Call gyco in see how easy it is to switch and save on homeowner's insurance. Brennan, Jacksonville Floridas first up. Hey, ben. Going ball. It is going. Great. Thank you very much. I I've been watching a show all these Georgia, and Florida fans call with these wild things about how they they're going to win the national championship. And normally I call on the level headed conversation talking about football and everything, but failed that there hasn't been anybody. That's just wild about Tennessee. This is gonna come and give you the reason why we're gonna leave win the national championship this year. You really believe would you like to hear while we're gonna win? You know, one thing I try to do on the shows keep it real I realized fans call in. But when you make a prediction like that, back it up. Schedule up all three. Yeah. Chattanooga riyadh. No. Listen. I know the non conference schedule talk about the conference schedule. Okay. Well, we got Alabama Alabama. Is that in Tuscaloosa this year, I don't have to get it, right? And for me, it doesn't matter. We'll beat Alabama because Jeremy Pruitt knows what's going, okay. We're gonna be I'm going to jump in here. And thank you for the call. Because we really just don't have time for absurdity. But thanks, anyway. Good to have you on. Let's go to Alabama next will go right ahead. Oh you doing? I'm doing great. Thank you very much. Oh, that's the first thing I want to say policy. I appreciate so much, how you talk to the young man, that called in Dade Samaria or about, you know, if a black players boycotted southern universities. And I just I appreciate you letting him speak. Let him speak as mind. And you handled it the way that you handled it. Yeah. I'm, I'm glad you mentioned that I wanna I wanna go back to this because we, we had a gentleman the called in earlier that. That had some concern about certain states Alabama being the most prominent, and we had I thought, we had a pretty healthy conversation will about the state of race relations, then and now. Yes. And you see the I don't know if you remember I called you a while back, and I took one of the downfalls at one, one of the things that we as U, S citizens, and southern noticing northern that's one, one of the one of the things that we well, let me put it this way. We dropped up all when it comes to conversation, and we allowed that thing to live. We allowed that John, you're Talil, we re with we conversation is so uncomfortable. I get that. But we allowed that thing to thrive and, and, and, and, and changes identity somewhat about not having the conversation and pretending number one that the past never happened or that, if something that's you know, hey, it doesn't happen today when it does. So, but I appreciate the way you handled that. And that's not the main reason why call. But I just wanted to tell you that. And, you know, hey, we can if we can sit down and have the conversation and also want to respond to the guy that called in and said that, you know, he's not a he's stopped, and, and the, the black leaders. Well, they probably wouldn't even be able to call to your show without the black leader. You know, I hate to come down on somebody, but when when, when I asked the guy about that. And and you know what? And he mentioned Jesse Jackson, it to me, it was just a very lazy predictable yesterday type of response because and listen, I, I'm not I wasn't being critical, Jesse Jackson. But you and I both know that his relevance on the American social and political scene. Today is, is very small and it was just a, let's go into. Let's go. Let me let me dig back into the playbook of yesteryear and throw a name that is likely to incite a very negative reaction c dos. Squirrel, squirrel is the prime example of why this things. How about the way I know him. Well, I was really surprised by by what he said there because. And I never tried to judge someone. I mean, squirrel and I from the same state same similar generation. And by the way, I, I hear it among friends of mine that are a little bit older that they don't mean it, but you hear it and, and I think will it depends on really, you know, where you work in, in the people, you're around because a lot of times, you are a product of your environment. And I know the, the company I work for today is much different than where I've been in the past because it's a global company, and it's, it's more diverse than any place I've ever been. And, and, and you do adapt to your environment. Yes, you know, you know, you know, what causes surpremacy and racism, and bigotry to, to stay in is when you can silence the other person when you when you did not. A person of voice. And right. That's what the man when he called in. He you allow his voice you allowed him to speak, what was on his mind and on his heart what he does scenario that he gave. And it was just and they could very well happen. No one's saying is gonna happen, but it could happen. And I wanted to, you know, hey Charlottesville just happened just last year. Yeah. Did and and you know, exactly and it was it was troubling. And I'm not, you know, anybody that listened to this show knows that I try to avoid politics because. There there's no there's no winning in that conversation, because but what would I do not, not mind is this conversation, because it does it does force people to think it does, and let me get to real porn, Awad called in, because I don't want to them up on me over. Okay. And I won't appalled tummy tub reveal. And let me tell you why while bag what was to articles that came out that really blessed Gus malzahn. I mean, I Don I forgot who wrote the articles. But they it was it was it was an NFL scout who made the statement. Yeah, it's said talked about the con school offense. Right. Well, I applaud comfortable field for stepping poll and say, wait a minute. Then how school offense one national title. Okay. The did they won a national title and that and, and, and, and the only thing that I thought Gus malzahn for was having a knee jerk reaction to everybody kneeling to what everybody thought he should be. And that was give up your offense to give it to somebody else. And we've seen what happened when he Paul he only had a what a good week in a half with if offense call it all the place before they played for do. Right. And we've seen what happened. Look like twenty ten and granted this team now. I'm optimistic about this team and I'm not big on making predictions, but I'm going to make one today. I look for this team to be more competitive than what people think they're going to be. And I think the deepens is gonna play a key row. I think they're going to kill. Auburn to offense to upper tune into the win. Relive. Listen, I mean, if you look at all the tough games, they have on the schedule e-, even though it, they sound like mismatches. I was talking to Danny Sheridan the other day. He said, all of the projected lines are very narrow. Auburn will not be a big underdog in in any of those road game. So you may be right about that. I think Auburn can get to the end of the season in one piece, then the odds of beating Georgia, or Alabama, we're both increase, but they, they can't they have to stay on the tracks so to speak. The thing you know, nobody really talks about the fact that, you know, when carry on, was there when they beat Alabama when they beat Georgia that thing was Dave, Dave was so wounded by the time they got to the SEC championship game. And by the time they got to the ball game. They were not only right that way, we're. We're. Plenty of the main player pet surgery right after the season. So my head is off the Gusmao von. He makes changes was it needs to make changes the recognize it. He is. You know, like I said, of his, my only fought with him, was he'd never should have listened to the crowd north all around him. Fill up your offense and I'm so glad that he took it back now I think he got a chance to just be Duffin in. And, you know, an an and I'm I'm up the mystic about this year state bar in any injuries or anything like that. You know, I I'm up the mystic about him. And I think he don't get a fish shape. Really? Listen. Thanks for the call. We are heading to brag, but it's good to have you on. Good stuff. That's actually we are heading to a break. Now, more of your phone calls when we come back. Listening to the Paul finebaum show podcast. We're back and the return of squirrel to the program. Yup. Vincent listening past couple of hours. And, you know, I have a loud respect, you have a lot of respect your show up, think, proven that over the years and all I was doing was questioning why are young man like that would bring up a divisive topic like that. And I just made the comment that there's a part of our society that wants to keep, hey, the live and now I don't see where anything I said was wrong. And now all of a sudden I'm being portrayed as some. I don't know. I don't know what I'm about racist or something. How did that happen? I I'm just curious. Well, I thought of all the things you said, the, the, the introduction of Jesse Jackson was the most. Well, that you're right. That was lazy, but you threw it at me, but I had to give you something within a few seconds, if I had to think about it, I, I would have probably said, Maxine Waters, there's someone who's relevant and who's in the public and who keeps hate alive. So, yeah, Jesse Jackson was a lazy answer. But my point was still. Ended. I mean, was it a five until then I was I was okay with the conversation. But that's what well, I have no animosity against any race. Paul. I've never gone to an all white school. Never been on the sports team that that did not have black athletes. I would give my life for some of my teammates. I know again, I just thought copies of that nature, black athletes, boycott and southern schools. I mean I thought we were past, but I really thought this country had moved past that we're not bombing churches and killing little girls in more. We're not burning people out of their houses and things of that nature. I mean I really thought we'd make some improvement, the past fifty or sixty years. Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe I'm wrong. What I know there's no question. We have in total agreement with you on that. Okay. Well, that just wanted to clear the air on that. But again, you're entitled to your opinion, I'm entitled to mine that gentleman was titled to his mislead was titled to hers. Thank you for taking my call. Thank you. Got that cleared up. AC is up next in New Jersey. Hello. How you doing? Good. Can you hear me? Yes. Perfect. Well. What's going on rate? Michigan is doing it. So they had another to go. So I guess you sort of that, that, that I. But that's him Harbaugh in when when, when he needs to make a gut call. He can't make it. And that's why he is not been successful at Michigan. Yes. Is as your own. Then surely them I am the wheel dick Klay refined bombs. I don't know who the hell was, what cutting college. All the moose was. You on like horns, it's not gonna happen book. And if it happens, they has to go with authority, which is different person. And he was saying something about that. So that case miss the news. Plus, I'm gonna put you in a mass, then the linens. Panties much more. Swami is up next. Good afternoon. Hey Swami, the Swami the Swami just to, you know, I'm just an SEC observer and I I've kind of been watching this. You know, thing pointing you and about this little wager. You gotta go winning then. But, you know, I think beaten down Paul, you kind of want his respect. I mean, I know he bash them a law and everything, but is it just me? Or do you truly want her about his respect any answer would just play to whatever particular side is either for or against me. But it really doesn't matter. I don't know Jim Harbaugh met him once or twice he, he is a topic of conversation. I think I think some of it's over done. But in this particular case, I, I offered the challenge in fun, which on the heard. Heard of being friendly about something and you know it was his Asian to to duck and run. But seriously, do you think he is an atop now? It's coach. No. I don't think he's a top notch coach. I mean, even this year, you know, many experts got his team going into final Fokker and on their land. Every time urban Meyer was top notch coach like him or not. He beat Harbaugh like a drum and the biggest game of career in college ball, he he got rolled last year. So I I, I mean to me that, that I lost a lot of respect for her coaching last season. I thanks. Thanks for the call Swami Joseph is up next in Tupelo Mississippi. Hello. Joseph. Good afternoon. Hi, listen. I was just trying to figure out. It's like like is like, we're you're saying about, like what you mar boss doing this mess, like, no. What are we doing? Like, do you also believe like right now I think the best is the best we're trying to get through to players and still start into two days like next month. What do you all think? What what I found out today that we picked up a great commitment from quarterback. That is beyond measures. No live pro-style for back overall pick. It's four star, but I think miss going to write that road right now. Well, I hope so. I am a huge fan of, of Matt Luke, and it would pay me to see him. Not be successful, so. Oh, yes, sir, for sure. I certainly hope that you are prescient there on on that. And I, I know the recruiting has gone. Well, listen. I I've always looked at it like who would not wanna play there. I think it's a great school. It's a great environment. Mad as you know, the coaching staff is, as good as it's been a long time. So let's hope you're right. I also Vish fall. You know, there's always this time of year when I call when I challenged Asian to have more protection against all messed against Alabama and I lost last two, but I'm all go ahead. And put my prediction again. I thank the way of these next two gangs. Well, thanks for the call pre. She at it. We are officially out of time for this program. We appreciate all of you for being a part of it. Some really interesting guests today will find out in a couple of hours, whether the baseball season continues until then we thank you for being a part of the show. We will see you right here tomorrow. Thank you for listening to the Paul finebaum show podcast. The Paul finebaum show airs weekdays on the SEC network beginning at tweet Easter.

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Kentucky's final pork good national championship. Could we're going to get everybody. Best issues Kentucky Kentucky's just built their elites with a lot of winners in a lot of things. But only one winner at the end. Joe that is more night eight PM and you'll see it on ESPN. We mentioned Kentucky a slight favorite at home against Tennessee. They met a couple of times in the regular season. Tennessee one Kentucky one in the tournament. Alabama making some news today. Finally, yes, I mean, finally naming their coaching staff. Most of these names have been linked to the job the keys, of course, peak Golding coming defensive for and he was really de facto decoder. Anyway as talked to a poi- struggled in his one year as the defensive coordinator, he's now working pretty kitchens Cleveland Steve Sarkisian returns. He was the offensive coordinator for one game. That was a national championship game against Clemson lost. And then high tail that to Atlanta to be with the falcons for two years. Where he was nearly fired. Now, he's back in Alabama. He brings with him. Kyle flood who is his offense of line coach in Atlanta coffered, you may remember was once the head coach at Rutgers fired there in a nasty scandal. He lands in Alabama not many holdovers. From last year, seven new assistance almost a complete turnover over the last three years for Nick Sabin. Is that sound like a challenge? Well, maybe it does. But he still has the best players in the country. And Georgia not wanting to be left out has had to finally name Dan landing as its defensive coordinator. He was the Outside Linebackers coach you, of course, replaces Mel Tucker sounds like musical chairs. Does it not who left bell Tucker? Remember was it Alabama under Kirby smart, he left with Kirby became the D coordinator in Georgia. He's now the head coach in boulder at the university of Colorado. Let's get back to the calls, and you can ring us up now at eight five five two four to seven to eight five gene Hallman will join us in a couple of moments right now. Mike is in Charlotte. You're on the air. Go right ahead. Hey, Paul good afternoon. Listen, I don't know if you are aware of this or why cannot stand the lane kiffin when you sodium Cowan Alabama have y'all seen a photo of him. We got a lot luminosity crap shop down her face during a halftime of the Super Bowl. Here's a picture of him standing on the field, the Florida Atlantic and up above his head way of above his head. He has zero with the three three three fingers up. That's not the case. That is a that is the wire is are now hold on a second. Because I think this is a big news. You're suggesting lane kiffin is a member of the aluminum. No. That's what sign that they use. Well, okay. But but kiffin put this in his tweet, right? No, I just happened. I think showed up my. I think he is part of the eliminated. Yeah. Whatever your explanation for all the silly things. He's done. Welcome from California, southern California. But I would you. Yeah. Yeah. Well, the thing about it is I mean, you know. These people you'll see this all the celebrity. There's something about the aluminum that that bothers you. Well, I don't like what they stand for because I'm Christian. But, you know, this man's ahead of a major college program. Would you let your son go and play football for a man who's on Hinault? You know, I don't know exactly what he is. But, you know, most people don't sandwich with their hand way below their head and zero with three three three. That's six six. Yeah. No. I can I can double it. Thanks for the call. Really? Appreciate that Baba's in Tennessee. Go right ahead. Bob. Okay. Like to try to solve two problems with one call if I could. The first one being students that are transferring from these programs and more get eligible other schools, and the other one of these kids that are trying to go pro that the end of three is there's a way to solve that. And that is get rid of this student aid and business and San is kissed her contract signed him to a five year contract. And then they go, and they don't break that contract. The the second thing is we have the rule that you run into a quarterback with the crown of your helmet and all they get a fifteen yard penalty. He gets kicked out of the game. Well, we had the same problem when we used to run into kicker, and that was that was it a fifteen yard penalty for roughing the kicker, and they said, no, that's no good. Let's do fabulous incidental contact. Well, let's use that same ru with hitting people with the Trenton the helmet, there's an egregious form of that. Which is a fifteen yard penalty. And you lose half half a game. And the other one is incidental crown on the helmet. And you get a five yard penalty travels to at is on process. Paul. Well, thank you for the call Lewis is in South Carolina Lewis, you're on the air and go right ahead. Appreciate you taking my call. Thank you. All afternoon. Seventy two today. Seventy two congratulations. You're still young. I'm Matthew in Columbia. Yeah. I remember you came you came by the show when we were there for the Georgia game. And brought to you a magazine. You did. Sure did. Yeah. Oh, I was just thinking this lady, Catherine been married. Seventy one years everyone years of marriage was that sound like a good time was marriage. The year. I was born. To those what forty eight. Or on the seven forty seven. That was a very good year. Yes, sir. Was I guess I hope I hope it was one more quick comment. I got a call from one of your listeners you and I talked about preferred Wahdan we right? Yeah. You asked us at the other night. And I struggled to answer. I got a call from a guy that had called a football, coach, and inflammation. I get is up. Preferred walk on is guaranteed a spot on the team. Right. He can't he won't be cut. Yes. So preferred work on the question involved, Kirk street sons who walked on. So they they have a spot on the roster. They they still pay their own way. But they they don't have to. They're not like trying out like little league baseball. They will be part of the team. Yeah. Next question Powell is the Kentucky Derby is that a hard ticket to get your. Hands on. Well, the Kentucky Derby, which was the first Saturday in major showdowns. I mean, there's probably not I mean, it may be hard to get a seat, you know, in the grandstand or in a box. But I mean, you you you can have up to two hundred thousand people there. So I doubt it would be that difficult to get in the infield. How? Oh makes the Kentucky Derby. I'd like to be there. Yeah. No. There's a there's a there's a horse named call Paul who I think is in the running. Yeah. You can get into the infield for seventy five promise you, Paul if call Paul makes it. We'll we'll we'll take Taylor Hicks with us. We'll go up there. I'll have Rose's around my neck, and we'll be in the winter circle. I'm here to get to the Kentucky Derby, don't take anything. But correct change. Yeah. Well, I guarantee we will be celebrating in that will be talking about run for the roses. Yeah. I got two things on my bucket list. But I'd like to go to Kentucky Derby, and I'd like to have lunch in Charlotte with you. And and John and Martiniere. Well, let me tell you something lunches doable. We're John and Mark, and I are available any day of the week ending in a why? So you tell us when you wanna come up here, and we'll get the. I'm less than a hundred hundred twenty miles. Yeah. Well, I tell you what what's what's what the what what's what the where the weather get a little warmer. I know it's warmer there than it is here, and you will communicate one day, and we'll we'll find a a good day for you to come up. And then we'll bring you into our plush studios you got. Restaurant where if you have anything other than in old painters outfit on you'll you'll probably get it ruined. Hey, thank you. All I'm all hat and no cab all hat. No cattle one of my favorite lines from. Yeah. No. That's that's that's a that's a Texas oil. Oh, well, wildcatter lie. Hey, thanks for the call. We'll see you soon. We are up against a break. We'll talk about some of the issues involving people going to college football games experience. Tendences a big topic of conversation. And we'll talk to somebody who swims in those waters quite extensively. When we come back. Listening to Paul finebaum show podcast. And we welcome. You back as we continue here on a Friday night. One of the cops conversation we've had so many times here has dealt with not only the experience on game day. But but attendance, whether it's television, or whatever I I've mentioned during the season athletic directors. Continually talk about their concerns and genome is with us. He is the president and CEO of the Bruno event team, they do a number of things from managing golf tournaments around the the country in the world from from US Open's to others to you. Also, a secondary part of the business, which is now a very important part of your business is managing the game day experience on on college campuses. I I know some of this like I don't because I've known you a long time, but headed headed you. Get headed you and your company get into this. Well, we've been running sporting events all over the country Paul for twelve thirteen years and got a call a co- call from the university of Alabama and said can you come down and look at our game day plan and see if you can help us better organize. This was two thousand seven Mike Shula's next to last season. I went down and looked at it from a operational standpoint. Not a fan standpoint. And we got hired the next season. They opened the north end zone, and and we helped to make changes to improve the fan experience. And then of course, coach saving came the next year bad that really did improve the fan experience did five national championships. They opened up the south endzone. They doubled the student population. And really the landmass didn't change a whole lot. So we had to get a whole lot more creative. And how fans came to the game and got back home safely and having a good time. But what we've seen over time as television has become better and better at showing the game. And this network alone has done a lot innovate. The fan viewing experience people are opting in small numbers right now. But nonetheless, they're doing it to stay at home and watch it on television or their device students. That's. A big problem. They aren't coming to the games. So every athlete director in this country is sitting around trying to figure out how to make the game day experience better. So that fans will continue to come to the games, gene. I had an athlete and I'm not gonna out him. But I had one athlete Drucker. And then another with a similar story talking me once during the season. And he said this is the biggest concern we have moving forward. I am really concerned about the future ticket prices keep going up licensing fees. Keep going up to this new tax law is wreaking havoc. Yes, it's an underreported story. So at some point you have to make it better. But what you said really struck me because I I leave a lot of college campuses at noon on on Saturday to to get to the airport, and I run into students, and I asked why aren't you go into the game? It's it's hard to it's hard to tax. It's hard to tweet. It's hard to keep up with. We could all watch it together and have their own little universe. The connect with their devices. The number one issue for students. But it's I hold Meredith things. It's video board inside the stadium. It's the concession lines. Concession prices, how clean to the restaurants. How easy was it to park. What about the security measures in place? How long did it take to get through the magnetometer? So like any business college football is fine tuning its model and making it more attractive for fans to come something that they really didn't have to be too concerned with ten fifteen years ago. And I'll tell you things praises Greg barn is right there on the leading edge of wanting to make that fan experience better. He is hyper focused on improving all the details. It's a driveway to driveway experience improvement from the moment, they leave their house time, they come back home. And we do a lot of things like we're up in the. With tusk loose. Police department looking down from a helicopter at traffic patterns. And we're tweeting we have fifty thousand Twitter followers on you game day. And we'll say there's a train coming. They see that they react. And they go another direction to get shouldn't be looking at their phone while they drive true. To the passenger is the passenger is so all these things are helping make the game day experience easier better less stressful because at the end of the day when you do take your son or your daughter, your grandson, granddaughter or your wife to a college football game. There's no better experience. And so to minimize all the things that surround it to make sure that people continue to come and enjoy this quality product is emission of every ethnic because it impacts merchandise concessions, it impacts the economic impact for that community. If less fans come to the game, then the restaurants and hotels don't do as well. It'd be remiss your. Companies also been heavily involved in managing the SEC baseball tournament for countless years, which is certainly one of the great success stories out in in Hoover. You've done many other events from gymnastics to to basketball, but the regions tradition where you guys come every year and. One day. We'll we'll just have to get you to talk about just dealing with the the egos of the SEC network personalities. Who show up every year? But I mean you've been in the Gulf business for for a long time. And that's a business that does take care of its customer. It does the golfers. Get it. And look the this. Greg Sankey says it best. He said the sky's not falling when it comes to attendance. It's not the end of the world right now. But has Steve cannon who is the general manager of the falcons organization said because the NFL has the same issues. Sure, we cannot become a made for television product. And that's an extreme. That's how Purba early to say that you know, that they're no fans in the stands. But if you're losing three and five and seven percent for fans every year has some schools are not necessarily in the SEC. Then you look five years from now. And you've got big swats at the stadium that are empty. Well. Listen, I mean, Nick saban's been pretty vocal about as you. Well know. In terms of I'm interested in this because Nick Sabin for those who don't know he's a hands on guy. I know that he is talked to you countless times about what you do. I mean, he's he's he he not only runs what happens on the field. But well, he said something one time that I'd never thought of is that has we improved the experience for fans coming to the game. We're so to improving the experience for a recruits parent exactly who are coming into the game. And they're sitting there and traffic if it's going well, and they park Easley the next I could envision coming in doing this for the next three years to watch my son play. So has we improve that experience? It helps indirectly recruiting it helps so many different things. And every every school in this country is focused on it. But I will tell you, and I'm biased, and I know him on the SEC network. The SEC is leading this focus there. There are groups that have been convening and talking about this among all fourteen member institutions for the last five or six years. Don't worry about being biased here. We're. You're okay with before you go. I do want to ask you because we will be there. Again, we've been there for four or five years in a row at the regions tradition. It's there on the pro MD, which is fascinating. Nick Sabin Kirby smart event. Understand Kirby sports got some friends coming this year, widespread panic I didn't realize that we're from Athens Kirby's pig. Watt spread fan dick on a play the John Bell, delete singer. Exactly. It's playing with coats, smart, 'course, coach save and coach malzahn coach Mason, we've got coach Luke we're still working on coach Pruitt Condoleeza Rice, your Taylor Hicks. We've heard of him a lot of a lot of fun, Bruce Pearl Avery Johnson. So we'll be a lot of fun in may. Yeah. We've got we've got to spend some time talking about music, and we had we'll must have on here the other night, and he was literally dragged kicking screaming. He denies it to a a beyond say Jay Z concert at Williams Brice. I think it was the rice wasn't a couple of months ago. I asked him afterwards. I said, so what was your favorite song? He could not name a single. Whereas I went to Fleetwood MAC two nights ago in the first eight song for all number ones that I knew every one of them I've been to a few concerts with you know, your music catalog. Well, that is really cool. I again, I I'm I'm fascinated by this this topic because I know nobody really wants to hear it. But it's not so much. I don't even think it's television, gene. Because television does play a role when every game is on now, thanks to certain networks. But, but it's the students that I'm fascinated by why why seventeen eighteen nineteen twenty twenty one year old students. Don't wanna go. To the stadium on their campus. Well, one thing that Greg Byrne is doing at the renovations, they're doing it. Right. Denny's. They're creating a student terrace inside the stadium overlooking where you can see the field a place where they can gather. So some of the thought is sitting in their seats is confiding, they they can't mix and mingle. Sorry. Sorry. They gotta stay right. And so creating a student terrorists this will continue to evolve and the way we view this game. A lot will be dramatically different in in five years in his today. Keith urban played it the national championship game right before kickoff that you can't do that every week and that's too expensive. But those types of things will continue family friendly tailgating areas, that's become a big thing. I realize you can't you can't project five years from now. But but I'm really interested. You've got your son here who is quite young when he gets a college and few years when he grows up. I mean, what what what do you think this is going to look like in ten fifteen twenty years? Well, I think that's going to happen. It's going to be concierge service. It's going to be. Rods to the stadium. It's going to be you know, buses to the stadium. It's going to be golf carts picking up at your car. Taking you to the stadium. The food is going to be like the Arthur blank model in Atlanta, much cheaper. So people can come into Ford. It you're going to see restrooms clean. Got kale? Kale burgers? Okay. Good. We'll be big big wad Kat wider concourses wider seats, the video boards will improve the music the music played in the game. Not only is important to keep the game going, but it energizes two players. There's a lot of thought going into the news team play just that wifi issued the cellphone coverage. Everything ten years ago, if you were sitting on a college football, you could not you could not you forget remember. I think my wife was sitting with you. And when the the Alabama AM game in two thousand twelve Johnny Manziel in twenty nine I. As I left the game. I got about one hundred texts that because you could not you could not communicate at you got about ten miles outside of the eighty mile. Download at one time, and that's a big deal is changing it, and I think jeez coming and that's going to change it yet. Again, I think video boards going continue improve that. I don't know if if the conferences will start looking at shorter TV timeouts because that's when you but trying to make the games go a little quicker. I St. shawls talked about that and trying to pick up the pace of the game. Because I think that's part of the problem too non conference games. That's an important factor that plays into it. We've got some you got a good slate of games this year at Bryant Denny stadium. LS you see? It's true. Yeah. We'll we'll we'll leave it at that. Gee, I am fascinated by this topic. We'll talk again because this really is an important issue that I don't think many people at least watching and listening have given much. Thanks, paul. Good to see you. Great to see you, gene Hallman here. And we have thirty minutes ago on this week. We all get your calls and get some reaction as well. When we come back. You're listening to the Paul finebaum show podcast. I can't believe it that Gerald is presenting the quarterly budget report with finger puppets. Here comes a one point seven percent decrease in fixed overhead I know everybody. No, I can't believe how easy it was to save hundreds of dollars on car insurance. Geico. Are you dope projected increase in organic Khukri revenue? Believe it. Geico could save you fifteen percent or more on car insurance. Welcome back. Glad you're with us. Really some great topics as we begin to wind down the program in wind down the week. Kathy is in San Antonio. Hello, kathy. In a while you great to have you. Thank you gorgeous here today in the high sixty I mean, high eighties. It's a beautiful day. Hey, lock your conversation with gene. And I think it's a really fascinating topic. Because I know there are a lot of campuses a lot of schools that are having problems with the attendance. I just wanna say, you know, may on an ad and I've lied Marin but go to an AM game. You don't have problems with the tendon student body. Tickets sell out, they stay till the end of the game win or lose and a couple of years ago. They tried type it in music at Cal field. And it was such a horrible mistake because it was not the right kind of music conducive to the game. I don't find idea of music at the game to keep you planner judge, but it's got to be the right kind and it was blaring out the band's both teams visitors and the fine Texas tag in. And I think that people are bending over so backwards trying to pander to. What young people want now that what they really need to be focusing on is building that traditional base? Like, we have an where people love football, and they'll go and watch the game because that's what we do. So I think if universities would put a little bit of thought in how they can build traditions within their program, or you know. I agree with everything you said, but am is unique and the cadets at AM or are going to be there rain or shine because that's not a I don't want to disparage students elsewhere. But it's it's you know that are neither. But I've been there enough time, and it's a different experience. And and there's a lot. There's a lot of pride that goes into being part of the experience, whether you're a cadet or are you sure normal student. Thank you very much. Really good. Call Harry is in Napa Lewis, Maryland, you're on the air. Go right ahead. Paul. I've been trying for about three months to get to get to talk to you on the subject about college football attendance off. Yes, finally made it to the pearly gates now, I'm glad you called in a great topic. Come right in? So basically what I was looking at Paul. I I looked at the game day experience that I love the cord previous of what she had to say. Say I go to a game. And there's rap music there. I'm seventy six years old, Paul. I don't need to lick. And they'll come on. You're you're telling me, you're seventy six and you don't want. You don't like rap music college football game. Absolutely not. No. I want to hear something like to hear the band play the band's good. They're outstanding. You know, whatever whatever we can do. But Paul getting to the broader subject other than just the whole game day experience. The big one of the biggest things number one is to have a winning team. If people don't a lot of people don't go to games because they don't have a witty team. You're right. That's his own does as time. The people want to want to be entertained, and if your team is lousy it will definitely cut down on your attendance. And then the other thing course, if you're selling a product one thing, you want to look into is scheduling, if you scheduling the sisters of the poor, you know, they're not gonna come to the game to see it because it's not going to be competitive game. So that's another thing they need to consider in. In there. And then the on the tailgating thing, I may not go to the games and the students are all leaving. Well, they're all half Omer drunk. They're going away instead of coming into the game. And that is ridiculous Paul. And the only last thing I wanted to say Paul is. I hate to say, but I'm gonna say ESPN, I think is has a lot to do with what's going on. Because like when I go to the game. I'm there three and a half four hours warmer there all the time because of all the commercials all the well, listen, I agree with you. And I I have brought this out count constantly, and I here officials from this league. And every other week talk about how they're working hard on it. But the game still are four hours and there's only so much patience. Someone has television is a big part of it. But it's not I don't I'm not defending television. But it's up to the the the conferences to move their games along. And maybe they need to change the rules in college football and make them more like profile. Ball. So the clock doesn't stop as much. Yeah. And the the other thing Paul my legs, come it would be I really I really think it's bad for college is to have games on Friday night. Well, you know, one thing you the Friday the Friday night debate has been raging on for thirty years. And there are there are some leagues that will not do it. The SEC will not play on a Friday night in different to the great high school football, the big ten put up a battle. I think they they wanted to do it. I don't know if they do it or not now. State refuses it. Yeah. I mean, I I I would not I would not allow my college to play on Friday night and one thing about Friday night. It's a pure television play the games have seriously diminished. I think in recent years you end up getting a a lot of west coast games. You get I mean, even Thursday night games. I think the SEC does the opening weekend. And that may be it schools for a long time. You would see sporadic SEC game on Thursday night. I don't blame. I mean outside of the first weekend of the year when it's Labor Day weekend. And it's you can start the weekend. Earlier Saturdays day for college football. Thank you, very very much for the call. Really do. Appreciate it. Larkin is in Sarasota, Florida. Hello larkin. Yeah. I just want to call in here. You. In two years ago had been married for seventy years. What did you say? You're a Hooker. University Tennessee, and that Israel care Paul that. Well, you're a Larkin you're talking to me, I'm Paul and let me go over this. Again, you're a hundred and two years old and you've been married for seventy years. My rock dob company does go you were married for seventy years. That is not alumni. I've hours I didn't graduate. But I went up there and four to six. So. I mean, I'm reluctant to ask you this. But but at seventy at one hundred hundred what hundred how is your health? Eight. Okay. January twenty euro you born nineteen seventeen nineteen seventy. Yeah. Right. You're in Mila World War One not wearing a thing. Not on things. Yeah. So let me ask you this before you go. I mean that go, but I mean, go from this call. I mean in your life. If you World War Two. Two and a half years over in China came out and joined guard or tag national garden work in several sales jobs urine during that time. What if you had to pick one thing that I mean, I'm not talking about your your marriage or your Trump one thing in a vent in in those one hundred and two years that stood out the most to you. What would it be? Don't advocate. Remember, exactly what most thing that impressed me. The maturana. Half years over in China China. Biggest thing stays in my mind. Yeah. I would think I would think the so that was part of World War war war too. Right. Well, I'll tell you. Yeah. Yeah. We're we're you. What's that is this? Yeah. This is Paul. Yeah. You're talking. So you own. See you on TV now tearing somebody else. No, no, we're talking to you know, it he to me now. Yeah. Larkin right. Yeah. Yeah. Large and not to get too technical. But you're you may you may be the you may be getting this a couple of maybe thirty or forty seconds later because of the the satellite or cable or wherever you whatever you're watching this on. I hear somebody's not me. That's you talking. Yeah. That you lark. Yeah. I tell you what Larkin. We have to go to commercial here. But I want you to call back. Okay. Okay. I mean, it's just whenever you call back, and we will continue this conversation. We've had a ninety year old who's been married seventy one years. And now we have one hundred and two euro, I'm telling you what there's no program like this in America when it comes to breaking records of longevity of callers of age. Anything? We'll be right back. You're listening to the Paul finebaum show podcast. Okay. We're back. We're not going anywhere. I mean, we'll we'll stay here till midnight as long as you get your call in. Justin is in North Carolina. Justin, good afternoon. Good evening. I'm just glad to have you on here. Hey, thank the taking my call first time caller, huge ACC fan North Carolina fan sheriff been rough rough a few football years. But when the guy was talking about game day experiences. I've been fortunate enough to go to couple SEC games. And you know, obviously, go to ACC games here. And there in the state of North Carolina. Sure, there's such huge huge difference between the game day experience at a FCC school between an ACC school like for instance, you know, between Georgia and the university of North Carolina or do can Florida or someone like that. I mean, it's just it's a huge difference. And so much more entertaining at the SEC, you know, schools, and that sort of thing, you know, the ACC, I don't know. And I think that has a lot to do, you know, when you look at the top twenty five Cruden, you see so many litter so many SEC schools. When you don't. If you're if you're being a UNC fan, though, I mean, reverse it around and. I mean, I I have not been to Chapel Hill for a football game. Although on thinking about going to now that max there, but I mean the basketball experience at Chapel Hill is going to be completely different than a basketball experience somewhere else. So you you just reverse it. But I mean, I've been to ACC games. And I it's been two games at Clinton pretty intense. Yeah. Even even little oak Lympstone. Yeah. Well, I mean Clinton twenty three thousand seat stadium. Yeah. I mean, you know, for instance, you know, I've been to a college football game at Kentucky when they haven't been very good. We understand when you're Phillips was there. But still, you know, say Alabama was coming to town. And, you know, even though they knew those going to be down forty nine nothing to halftime that place was packed all the way up until halftime. You know, it was a great game day throughout the entire day. It was packed the whole entire first half. Until obviously they got blew out at North Carolina or at another school like that. You know, this is not what you know. Like, for instance, last year. I the stadium was half full any guy. The team was terrible. That's why they fired Larry fedora. But yeah, I would imagine a Duke Wake Forest game. You know, doesn't get a lot of traffic on stub. No, definitely not taking my call. Listen a lot. I wish I had something. I think if the network being great well, by the way, every the ACC the ACC is is is launching its own network here in a couple of months. I don't I don't know what they're going to do with it. I think oh they've hired Larkin to host the afternoon show. Listen, thanks for the call. Gesture really really good to hear from you. Man. 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Those assholes on the other side of your state who shared nothing in common with you whatsoever. Or maybe a neighbor or rich folk Capulets and Capulets with neck tattoos. So so Fresno, socio states involved in all right? Good of all of the by the way, I followed the great rivalry summaries or non rivalry summaries. I've ever seen the one piece of Twitter video where somebody at the San Diego State Stanford game pointed the camera over at Stanford tailgate. It looked really polite and clean and everyone was eating off of white paper plates and goes Stanford tailgate, and then turns to the left and it looks like burning man, right? This is YouTube gate like these people understand it. They get it. They know the core of what revelry week is. We have like a thousand games to talk about. I think that is what everyone pictures rivalry week as in their minds, but from the outside like Michigan and Ohio State. I'm sorry. You're the same people. I'm sorry. We'll we'll make jokes about one of you being history, lawyers and one of you being unemployed intimate fighters, but the those are all surface level jokes are the same people. Brooke? I I work at landscaping. Okay. Ready? Fight games gonna. To happen. You just gotta believe, and it's controlled by people who aren't letting be have it's chance also whereas against stage. I work in landscape. I'm for a World War, Two reenactment society. That's it. Our sweat shirts are slightly different. This is a real house divided situation for us here on the show because obviously while we love Michigan and their money cannon. And the way it result in us having to stick needles in dispensers body. We also really love Marcus hall and the way he chooses to express his emotions on television. Wait, so Ohio State is just Michigan but bad with money. Fiscally irresponsible. Michigan. Please. Please send your retorts to this too. At thirty eight Godfrey, he's got free. Why can why can we never punish Bill because I'm afraid I'm afraid of Bill. That's true Godfrey's too. Pretty to be killed. Oh, yeah. There's no way. He's a t one thousand one thousand wooden bitch that much look at those chief zones. My God also no robot would root for the falcons. They could do that. Math. Hey, man, you root for the falcons option menu. Nine. No to say, oh, give me give me o by keys and you'll patriots fan in Ohio State opinions too at Reagan battalion, even better than the send them there. Boy, let's start on Thursday egg bowl. Yes. Man, all my favorite. Beg whole Ed Begley my favorite rivalry game. Every single years Egbo every single year. There is nothing better. There is nothing to me that it's more college football because node wins no-one benefits the results nonsensical. They're balanced in that the team that needs to win usually loses the team that needs to lose usually wins. This year. It's not even clear that there is a team that needs to win help. Find me some stinks here. Fire. None there's like Mississippi State if you win maybe you sneak into the Citrus Bowl, then should be state. If you lose maybe a fault of the I don't know liberty bowl. That's it. Those are the stakes. The the only stakes are one of you will be mad. That's it. That's all you really care about here. So mad the stakes are similar to last year. Not as many people are paying attention. But you know, really when you get down to it. It's just they fucking hate. Each other. Never forget last year we had decay Metcalf peeing in Mississippi state's end zone. And Berlin speaks waving to Dan Mullen on the sideline. Those are the only two things anyone actually members from that game. I will happen again. I mostly appreciate that. We insist on playing this game on thanksgiving itself. The holiday where we're supposed to, you know, reflect on the good things in life. See? How we are more like different come together. And enjoy the company of one another and the egg bowl just is the opposite bullish true to the actual origins. Thanksgiving help I'm dying. Please give me your food people killing. Shots. Oh, well here have some jerky. Right. You're not gonna you're not gonna like steal my land later, not on Mindanao or does. Or just having some corn bread. It's fine. Yeah. This is also very I think we should be thankful for having two quarterbacks playing in this game your exact opposites in that you have Jordan Tom who is really capable of passing for like five hundred yards in a loss. That's one of his skills is the new Pat Mahomes enjoyed Tomba through for five hundred eighty yards and fourteen days. Yeah, they lost by eighty points. It was amazing. No clue how they did it and Nick FitzGerald who in the last couple of weeks has gotten surprisingly efficient like go and fifteen for nineteen with four TD's kind of officiant somehow that that feels like a trend that won't hold feel. I feel like this is just going to be an embarrassment of each team's mutual embarrassments weaknesses of because this is the goal. I don't expect anything. Good to happen. I expected. To be painful, spiteful and bad. And I cannot wait to watch it at seven thirty PM eastern on Thursday Friday. Jeez. Which of these terrible early games. Do you want? Do you want to talk about any of these cerebral early games? Sure don't have to. I mean, Nebraska, Iowa, Nebraska, Iowa you've seen this game one thousand times before it'll have six points. And then and then it'll have seventeen and oh, man. Boy, what a what about that was? Yeah. That's fine. I think we can skip straight to. I mean does Houston Memphis bear mentioning that will have six thousand points. And then the winner will lose to UCF. Yep. That's simple. Can we Virginia Virginia Tech? Can I would like to talk about Houston, very briefly just to so major Applewhite was talking about and Oliver in a press conference the this week, basically like the whole is he gonna play again is he just gonna stay out and go to the NFL stay healthy bum, Bah. And he was actually surprisingly Frank, man. He was like, you know, I see both sides of this. We're trying to win a championship not a national championship or anything. But a championship wanna keep playing with your teammates. Yup. Hundred percent finished. What you started? Sure. Get all that. So that's one side on the other side. He's like forty million dollars. You just really lead the case there you. Can you like, yeah? You know, what you could go outside and have fun with your friends or you could be rich for a, you know, who's to say lot of Jamaica. You could maybe a win the AFC west men toss ably earn a trip to the Birmingham bowl. Or your great grandchildren could be rich. You know, both sides. I it's it's hard choice. Hard choice. Consider. All right. I'm sorry. We can move on past than games. Now. I was gonna get to the record in case. Someone may have forgotten that Virginia Virginia Tech the last time that the Cavaliers beat the Virginia Tech. Okay. You did do any of you know, it off the top of your head. I want to say it's like two thousand four. Real close. I think isn't that is two thousand three the last time that they won against the hokies was two three eight thirty five twenty one victory that was at at Charlottesville. So that was that was two thousand and three since then man, I just got nothing. But like I got nothing, but well, I got nothing, but well scrabble for you just a bunch of ELS. But now, I can see. But now this this on like Egbo this game has major stakes Virginia Tech your precious bowl streak online here. Not only do you need to win this game. But then you have to beat your late scheduled Marshall a week after this, which I think they are technically going to bail on if they lose this game of not really clear how that all works. Yeah. Marshall will be out. A game still get fade. But will not have to do anything for it. So Marshall, you're rooting for Virginia here. Virginia. If they snap Virginia Tech's bowl streak and the revelry losing streak and at the same time, Florida the next day Florida beats f- issue, you know, who has the longest bowl streak then. Wisconsin Georgia has the longest bowl street. Cool. Jim Donovan lives again lost UCF, though. So when you see his bad that did happen. So. So. Speaking of UCF. The plane USF this game was awesome master is probably not going to be this year. Oh, no, no, no this game. This game was a this game was a screaming like banshee of a match up last year and handed insane fourth quarter, featuring I believe three lead changes in the last four minutes of the game. Maybe five anyway absolute heater, which means that. Now, they're not doing that again, especially because south Florida remember one point four it was like six now. Yeah. How man? Yeah. Yeah. He didn't wanna look too closely at that six. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No. We don't need any more. Problem solved. Yeah. No. They were they were the handsome kid in middle school. Never be the handsome kid middle school. Right. Mike, surely as an adult, they will only grow wax. They Wally wax handsomer. So UCF UCF as of the playoff rankings released tonight when recording this they're what's still nine. They're up to nine there. They jumped shitty ass. Ohio state. Okay. How many things have to happen for them to get in the playoff at this point, the SEC has to decline a bid like the Ivy can they both have extremely high academics standards. So the SEC just joins its its brethren in the Ivy league. Shoes to play Clemson loses the pit and South Carolina. Notre Dame, declares independence from the playoff. So let's see. Now, you got Oklahoma was Oooo. Why why did you lose the apple Cup or the pact is Utah wins? The Pac twelve Texas wins. The big twelve northwestern wins the best hold on. Hold on. You're telling me, Texas is not getting in even even three losses. You you're you're convinced Texas wouldn't get in over UCF because of how fucked this is. Okay. So kansas. And then that would put a West Virginia in right, West Virginia wins West Virginia wins the big twelve. Okay. Northwestern wins the big ten, obviously. UCF wins is next two games by let's say fifty points, each I think they can struggle in as a four seat at that point. God it's gonna take some work. Yeah. The mainly your counting on SEC academic. So you'll be fine should be fine. He is that or Georgia Tech. See I like that. The folks we hit what you're hearing. Here is a Florida fan trying to squirm out of that peach bowl against US UCF. That's. Actually. Yeah. Later, it's going to bed nine because they care a lot more than you do. But. Yeah. No. I know they're onto winter. They let us know. Yeah. All eighteen of. I really wish rushing bots would just turn to defending the cause of you UCF football. No, I'm pretty sure they did. Yeah. They did. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, they have they have thirty five thousand fans in somehow seventy thousand Twitter, mafia members. Dude kid, this isn't PAP. And so we allowed to say that. Yeah. There are on Friday to to crucial games that would be Oklahoma at West Virginia. Which is that that's for all of it, y'all. That's the big twelve undoubtedly must've. Yeah. It just imagine imagine having to play a football game after Morgantown thanksgiving. When you're not from West Virginia, if your friend West Virginia, you're used to it. But Oklahoma is not. So just imagine that for a moment we had a turn duck-keun. It's a Turkey and duck in Iraq Kuhn. Also, the Turkey was wild Turkey. Not mix. Also, the duck was alive. Yeah. Fight keeps it vital by wild Turkey, by the way. We Meanwhile, Turkey bottle of. The whole thing. So it was it was a drunk duck stuffed in living raccoon. Welcome to the great state of West Virginia. Wow, them wonderful cooked it instead of pepperoni. Roll. Cook net cooked what well let's left on a couch in waited for nature to take its for fire. Yeah. That this game probably the most realistic shot. We have seeing a game with what one hundred points. Yes. Yeah. NFL folks who you enjoyed your little Rams chiefs. Like the first game you've ever seen with one hundred combined points. Cool. We get that once a week, maybe tune in for this because these two teams declined to play defense was that NFL fans like time travelers from the nineteen hundreds come to, you know, their early nineteen hundreds they come to our time. They're like what marvelous Ironhorse as you know, man, it was kind of bizarre. Like, I figured most NFL fans would be like, oh that was horrible no defense and all just based on I guess expecting consistency. After they've talked about our sport. Particularly the big twelve. No, it was just unanimous greatest game in football history. And. Yes, sure. It was great. If you like, you know, Kalamazoo, but think about like what some of those other fans have had to watch like the bills. I think there was a competence. I think there was a quality halo over this game. Because it involved the Rams in the chiefs. If we were watching this game in it were something like, I don't know you tell me to really bet if it were the falcons and who right the bears the other. Yeah. Okay. If it were the falcons in the bears, we would be saying things like oh rashes Stevens trash. Yeah. Trash defense. Yeah. I I think that's acceptable to say in any football game along with what happened. What happens to just be a sign that you hold up at anything. And then your your last game Friday, God one one one note one last night about Oklahoma West Virginia, he eighty one the over is eighty one and a half. It's pretty big. What's the same, man? Doing there. I have oh you buy think appoint should've stuck around and waited because pushed down to pick him. But appoint doesn't matter much, okay. I wonder I'm assuming it's over. The next game. The next game that is also crucial world changing a matter of life and. Slightly less plush Pacific northwestern. Life is often at Washington state the weather for this game. Oh, dear Kat. It's it's bad. It's bad. It's everything that you want. You know, sometimes when you turn on the apple Cup. You just see icy mist floating across the screen, right? Ed, you go. Wow. If I were describing this. I would use something like the words icy missed but not rain because it's not wet. No is just missed with ice in it. Yeah. That's that's that's because it's real now. That's the famous that's the famous Sierra mist you've heard sounds like something you see a Mario game where it's like you can jump on the clouds of ice to when you move through the air. And there's this little twinkling noises. Yeah. That's exactly the Pac twelve I'm how the noises are angry. Park. The what the weather for this game. It should be slightly rainy and around thirty degrees. Twenty degrees and rainy. How they do that perfect fireball weather is what you're telling me. In so many ways as in either drink it or set yourself on fire to stay warm, seven fireball picnic kids. Yeah. So ball security. I mean might be an issue, but if Washington state's ever gonna get over on Washington in this current era, you know, men show this cruise the time to do it, especially because Washington, they they're not gonna blow anybody out. They won't blow us out. It's just not happening this year. God I I really want wuzzy to win this game. And I'm already link uncomfortable with that fact, because I feel like I'm going to get hurt. I've already prepared myself for them to lose emotionally. That's how that's how badly I want to win. I've already accepted their loss. That's a smart. I mean, you're saying you're not excited about a Washington Utah Pac twelve game. Six to five packs title game in front of ninety five fans. We both teams have decided we're gonna play this. With a running clock goal is to get out of here in seventy two minutes. Let's go. He dinner up. Away to gets better Washington. Northwestern Rose Bowl. What is wrong? Why are you like this? Let's go for fifty eight minutes in that one. He's. Fifty eight fifty eight minutes and eighteen points between the two teams. Let's roll. But a good stuff gas. Speaking of moving to Saturday, speaking of a game in which the dormant put upon. Lesser brother has a chance to finally break a streak and go to a major bowl lowly beleaguered Michigan is favored in Columbus, Ohio. Ooh. I didn't know they were favored though, their favor. And I it started at two and it's up to four. No pressure. Good god. That's a lot of pressure will pressure tickets for this game obscenely expensive on step up right now. The cheapest the cheapest you can get in for right now two hundred and fifty dollars. For like a very top of the of the of one of the end zones. I've been in those seats their grim. It's him. Kids money isn't real just like jail. Just like Jalen Columbus, especially all man. Do you know what we might get? Oh, if if Michigan beats Ohio State in Columbus, we might get it's been a minute. It has been a hot minute. We might get tear gas in Columbus. She's the most beautiful sight of all I think marks buck. And that's it's hard to believe since Ohio State fans have been so common rational all year. Yeah. It's at pre-workout, bro. The pre workouts got me unstable. Okay. Breathe pre-workout. Yeah. This is like Gainesville of an entirely different sort. I think this is the the anguish in agony game of the year. Just not only the stakes and the Ravel I get all that. But like man, can you imagine the fucking what the losing fans in this game are going to put themselves through afterward like coming up. You have Michigan. You have seven years of losing to these people. You can't stand your best season in years can be ruined. Like bio state just like it was a few years ago. Just like it was a few years before that. On the other side, Ohio State fans, you know, your team is trash, but you know, all you have to do is beat these people. You always beat and everything is restored in your your good is new again. So you have this lake high confidence. But it's only based on stuff that happened. You know, not in this year. Like what what like I think both fan bases are like projecting confidence trying to talk themselves into confidence for this game. And one of those house of cards is just gonna come shambling down. And I can't say it it feels mean to say I'm looking forward to that. But I I guess I witness it your mean, you're looking forward to it. That's okay. It's like I wanna see a train wreck as long as like, oh, everyone walked away eventually shirt this week and shun Freud. We'll be here to pick up those bases. I feel very nobly. Listen to like, if it's gonna be I can't think of who it's going to be worse for but the idea of urban Meyer exiting. The job for the last time as Ohio State coach in Columbus to a cloud of like booze and tear-gas Hough. With the snipers because there are snipers up there right with the sniper scanning the crowd. I'll be like. Oh, hi, oh, you could just chill for a minute. But I always know it's under the surface. They're just but to little bunch of little budding fascists all of you just lead us lead us iron, man. New ironman, give us a new dictator. It's all y'all really want is two hundred two hundred seventy five pound bench press. At least listen only got health problems too. Right. Bro. You know, how sweet it would be to have that heart. You have to worry about cardio just walk it. That's it gains would be sick. You like reactor heart of getting to a four hundred bench press by next week. Also, both of them are no longer defense. Contractors? I won't make I won't make weapons of war anymore. I won't do no longer defend anything. Yeah. Greg out of that business humanitarian now he just gives things away like long plays. I call this the Greenpeace defense. You're the rainbow or your. Dwane husbands is coordinator Altron. It would over so much better. If you were involved people. I am most excited in this game about watching twain Haskins versus the Michigan defense because I don't think it's gonna go real well because he's not going to have a whole lot of support in the run game because a house it cannot run the ball normally. And now they're going up against Michigan's defense. Yeah. It's gonna be that's the whole game right there. The other possibility you should prepare yourself for is. This. This could be the shape Patterson game Ohio State is susceptible to like whole on. Who did what if like every couple of weeks? It's you know, this Maryland running back or the entirety of Purdue. I would not be shocked if on Sunday people are like shape Patterson bear of the Michigan. Standard proud alum. Long wrongs long associated son foster child Brock in four hundred seventy yards. Four touchdowns the bridges. They're just doing they're doing things like trying to link him to Tom Harmon by bloodline, right? Boeckler charlemagne. Yeah. We found him eight cousin eighth cousin by blood. Michigan man from. Lifted Brian Greece's garage for a year. Brian did know it but Bryant isn't the most aware. Brian greasy thought he was a very large squirrel and befriended him. I'll nuts, bro. I got. Syrup just lean fats lane, healthy fats. Yeah. The this. This will be I mean, I really want Michigan to win. Because I want to see what happens on the other side. But realistically, there are many many reasons to think this, including as you mentioned shape Patterson because have you watched the linebackers and safeties worked together on the Ohio State defense. No because they no, yeah. No one has has. So you know, those little like like zone read fakes and QB runs. Oh, yeah. Just watch. What happens? It's going to be a train wreck. Fact there Ohio states back seven is I care furniture hastily. Put together all the pieces are there. But you miss him steps. Danya? It's leinen. All right. Great. Just a couple upside down. You forgot a peg you always forget a Dowell. You always will. Yeah. This this is a Dell free defense. So elsewhere, noon, you have so a lot of people have done this. And I believe I have at least once or twice as well. Going ahead and projecting this like total Armageddon scenario where Georgia beats Bama in the SEC title game. Obviously Georgia has to take a playoff spot. Bama. I don't know why they would fall much further than fourth if at all. So maybe we get like the every year in a row Bama versus Ohio State for playoff spot. Something like that. What this overlooks Georgia has to beat Georgia Tech. I and that's not all that hard. But it's not all that easy either. Because how many years ago Kirby smart us, Paul Johnson with comparable talent level? And Georgia Tech's kind of playing well lately. They're on a four game win streak. They've only lost one of their last seven. They started the year real shitty. But they've kind of turned a corner they be you know, they'd beat a pretty good UVA team in. They they beat a Miami team that had every incentive not to lose. They destroyed Virginia Tech like they're they are quite they're quiet, but they are feisty. I think they've yeah. They've stabilized a bit. And if nothing else they're really piss you off. Yeah. So. That's the most important thing here, not the Georgia Tech beats Georgia. But that everyone leaves the game angry, which a bunch of chop blocks, right? Like, three hours of chop blocks. Yeah. That'll wrap up the blood God damnit Danielle. I'm not going. I'm not coming back. We're not inviting them over next year. I don't care if he's your brother. I fucking hate him. He is in the bathroom sink. And he does it just piss me off. Yeah. Remember, Georgia Tech. We may not win. But you'll be so so goddamn irritated by the time. You're done with us. We also have Florida issue. Florida. Florida's should win killing Florida state's bull streak. And yet, I I just I hate that. I'm like this because I recognize that I'm just being an asshole now. But part of me is just like, well, they won't. I mean. And that's just that's just me being stupid dip shit. There's no I don't have any better reason than that. Florida. Should be Florida state Florida should cause a ton of problems for Florida state's offense. Florida's needs defense is okay. But inconsistent Florida has like shown a very an a very impressive ability to not let us slow start ruin an entire fucking game for them to stick with the run the run and back in a games where they were down in two or three games by just continuing to run the ball. They've made they've made good halftime adjustments in lots of games games that they hind games that were close, whatever. And yet some part of me still is just like real real shady Batman hate that part. But it's it's here forever. The doctors can't remove it. See you get with being a falcons fan. Like, you're there you go. You're saying you didn't understand understand my God. Oh my God. Yeah. Can I offer up the sand man's lock of the week? Please hit NC state, minus six at North Carolina. Why is it only minus six I don't know. That's why I took it. Sad bad trip to thin Sleepytime lack of the week. The same fifteen in ten last week, by the way, big bounceback week up to fifty three point eight percent for the year. That is very good by the way, eighty eighty three and one on the season amazing, which for the listener who blamed Holly for this because this Holly's gambling podcast. And I am I've been confused with Ryan and Spencer, but never you. Yeah. We are now. All indistinguishable Dow so Holly as my my benefactor, my funder, apparently I'm gonna win this chief. Yeah. Hollies the George Soros of this podcast. Jason is the legless soldier is gonna pilot me through a blue planet. Let's see our goals. Wait. Bunch don't gloss. Oh, hey, don't class over the but bowl. You're going to do it. We're not to it yet. B B you versus t t oh there. It is the bar. That ball will. But ball winner is winners bull elgible. Loser is not correct. Yeah. The ball. But in the losers, just but his home but cliff various out on his butt holiday. Let. Yeah. That would be key. Keep an eye on that developing situations. And look that's this game is a it's it gets even more. But because Jerry world. Yeah. It's big. It's big televised. But do I put the but on screen going to be going to be a lot of tight angles? They're all out of okay Zun. Yep. Just crop that good. Good. Do not go above row. Twelve do not have the crowd shots. Yeah. This game is every year at. You look at the stadium. A good solid forty percent full in just ask yourself. Why why why why is this because Jerry wants to watch something on Saturday, Jerry bagel, but in his house, look, I put that. But on the Jumbotron, Jerry Jones, no one can stop me. Big fat put up there. Got it. Sad. How true that is got a foot the size of a private plane Jerry Jones just had the sense to want sensible things. You know, he's not one of these. He's not one of these billionaires who says would I really want to do is be space barren. No, Jerry Jones ambitions in life or to give Baylor and Texas Tech to play his gigantic huge flip phone of a stadium. And he got it done. He you know, he got he made it happen. All he wants to do is get drunk EV ladies be like Hello, Mr. Jones, and he'll be like, oh, ladies, and then you can call me the chairman. Yeah. I'm a sexy grandpa goes I don't a hundred thousand chairs. That's it. That's the soldier. Like, what do you wanna do? I wanna to the Dallas Cowboys. That'd be rich is how they go. The I've jacked off in every seat in the stadium. You know, what's great about college football is that if someone had turned on the podcast, right, then they would have known exactly who you're talking about a what state in we're talking about. Without you saying anything else? Oh, Jerry, you skip. It horny old man that could have been Dane Holger cynic fair. It's not that big of a stadium. Dana data wouldn't have been Dana would've been more morose about it. Yeah. Jacked off never seen that stadium. It's time to clear out of town. I'm a man's got needs. We have it. We have at three thirty. Auburn at Alabama. So Alan Abbas gonna win that. Yeah. Auburn is also currently playing Duke in basketball. What's wrong with y'all ambitiously ambitious, but in their yes on the table letting the lowered answer know your side. Laura. Just I want to do your will Lord loose Alabama bought thirty. That's my will. Are you are you share about fluently? Sure. Lord, just send me a signal giant giant eagle all from the sky dead at your feet. Okay. Is that bad Lord? If it be your will take this Nick Sabin sippy Cup from my. No, all right. Yeah. Three thirty. Pit is playing ringing ranked Pitt is playing franked pit right number. Twenty four Pitt ranked? Here's what I want out of Pitt the super weapon is fully charged. But I don't think it's aimed quite right directly at Clemson next week. Here's what we need pit. You're going to Miami. You'd get your ass kicked by Miami. Our up. Yeah. Lose by thirty here cough at the hill up. If pit loses by twenty or more Clemson is done. Finished. So I told you how expensive tickets were four. Spencer. Let's give me you told me general seat that you want for this game in beautiful Hardrock stadium in Miami gardens, Florida. You tell me you told me generally where you wanna sit, and I'm gonna tell you where it where I can get how much cost I wanna be about on the thirty five yard line. Okay. Not sideline. But next section out. If you can just give me next year up. Next year. Not the lowest here the tier above that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm being modest us. All right. So let's see I'm gonna put you here in upper sideline. Let's give you. Let's go ahead and give you a good row here. How about row eighteen does that work for you? Sure. Oh, wait. I can do the I'll do one. I'll go ahead and get you front and center. Ooh. In aristocrat twenty dollars. Now. Now, if you wanna if you wanna go fancy if you do want to sit on the fifty let's say. Ro. Let's see row twenty. That seem pretty good. Yeah. Seventy five dollars jam. Yeah. Distant? I they want you in the casino that bad. The other hand who is spending seventy five dollars got see a bit Miami. If I were crazy if I were within serious driving distance at didn't have other things to do me, brother. Yeah. This. This is the game. They should play on thanksgiving, by the way because Pitt Miami is the perfect. I need an excuse to not see my relatives game. All I gotta I gotta work thing. Gotta watch pit is ranked. Dylan stand what that means that you hate them. In my window territorial Cup. Arizona state of Arizona. This is the original chicken bet of the season. This is winner take all Arizona state wins. The dreaded thirty eight Godfrey takes chicken bet and moves to a one in two. Meaning he would still owe me an probably never pay up. If there is a wins. It is triple what is the what is the sprint on this game. I let's see I think it's a issue by a point something like that. Giving giving by we're not. We're not doing the spread redoing straight up. You know? I was just curious what what the shorts ASU by two in Arizona, right? That would be giving. What are Midwood seven wins in his first season ended territorial Cup? Yeah. And I think that puts him finishing second in the division. And it hasn't coached four decades. Can we just give the USC job? All the way brother stood just go west Herm. They do that you and I are joking. But why not? I mean, he did go seven he did win seven games. Yeah. So that's morally, right? And he's got a great attitude. The one thing I did want to mention I don't want to spend any longer than like fifteen seconds saying this, but the worst possible finish I can imagine for your season would be this Rutgers at Michigan state at four PM in east east Lansing with the son dying behind the lip of the stadium in the early first quarter, the temperature plummeting head your girls. Dear god. Why? Yeah. Next game. Don't don't want him to do. Don't own the glue met long. Speaking of gloom, South Carolina, gets to go to Clemson who skipped right over where I thought you were going to go. That's okay. Yeah. I'm not really need to talk about Tennessee vandy. That's a bit too dark the other game. I do real briefly just FAU is not bowl eligible right now. And they they host Charlotte who they should be able to be, but that's a school with the job opening, and you know, that's gonna distract lane. You know, he's going to be very of two minds when this game comes around. He wants that Charlotte job. He wants Charlotte. Good job. Yeah. Yeah. He wants he wants to go everywhere. Mike Shula has been. I will talk on that perfect. Mike Shula pelt. I did like the we entered the year, assuming kiffin would absolutely be gone for a mid to high tier P five job. Yeah. Just got a Bank is ten wins. And he's outta here. Cash in a cheque, guess is going to be coaching f you tweet. Lane kiffin. Because all that stuff about he's he's a change man better. Coach got it all together, Nick saving Nick Sabin turned him around still pretty good coach but sixty six angles, and it's it's great to imagine like six year old lane kiffin, still coaching FAU. Just never got it. Never got out of this town. Don't know what happened dreams once. Boca Raton institition. You wanna you wanna get on this boat with me, I live on it. Still the youngest man in Boca this van it can't be a boat though. Link if it gets super super Grizzle next year, right actually, Boca won't even be there in twenty years thirty years. Perfect perfect. That's it's out floats to new job. Yeah. Gotta get new gig just me and Houston Houston apt looks like I'm going to Italy. Oh, this is another Clemson, South Carolina, like the look Jesus. So this Saturday just really looking at the scope of things it starts hot as all hell, Michigan, Ohio state the middle Slater's live. But then this nightspot is just murder in every direction, South Carolina. You gotta go to Clemson Louisville. You gotta try to score points on Kentucky. Kansas state is playing football. It's actually worse. That's a home game for low level because it just means it's going to be so many fucking Kentucky fans. Right. Yeah. Of San Jose State. Arguably the worst team in the country. You gotta go play the Fresno state buzzsaw. This awful, man. Notre Dame gets to play USC. You wanna know a sour bitter, potentially very nasty immediately back with your ass Ossete finished here. LSU at Texas. Am. AM? Phyllis. She rolls in and they tank in the hate barn against the aggies. Oh, that's a that's a bad finish for Goto. Seriously. It feels like we've been marking this one at W for LSU for a really long time. Memes. Favored. So. Well, you know why? Because JIMBO placed a big old, but on himself because jimbo's building something K. It's it's long. It's a long term construct like the, you know, the death star took forever to Bill couldn't just do it in a week a year cost way more than seventy million dollars. Probably did it. I don't know the conversion rates, I say all this because it's time. I am advertiser content to help inspire your holiday gift giving in with the theme of building. We have a very special advertiser message from the LEGO store and shop dot LEGO dot com. 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That's LEGO dot build slash shutdown or simply tap, the Lincoln the show notes. To get started or get JIMBO Fisher's phone number and asking like, do you know how much money you can have absolutely by using Legos? Also, if you Email me, and you say, which LEGO sets, should I buy for someone I will tell you. That's the only e mails went through wasp onto you will be Spencer getting at the mouth. It's like you have to sign up for health insurance today or you won't have any. I don't know. It's not Legos delete. I actually did that one. Sure. Right. Look at that. I did I did so achievement a locked. How you get those buddy? Exactly Spencer at SP nation dot com. Email me. Wow. And I will I will actually answer your LEGO questions. If it's not a LEGO question. I'm not going to answer it. But if you have so quit asking. What if don't give us don't try to another question with subject line LEGO? Lego question for my good good LEGO dad now don't do that. And then put something else in there. Don't besmirch Legos. Like, no don't lose Legos to betray our trust. Yeah. But I will answer it if it's a sincere LEGO question in if not I will hunt you down. We really it's a big risk next next question. So quit asking. So. Are there? Neither games that. We wanna talk about one with potential spoiler like capabilities here that will happen. However, just for entertainment sake. Notre Dame has to go to now. No, no, no money, far US's got a lot to play for you got talented roster. You know, US's Hilton's backed into a corner. He's low wolverine there. No, no. He's like mystique actually just ends in. No, just like this. He's like the Senator who watched up as a jellyfish. In that everyone draws him wildly differently. Far off. Yeah. That the holy war. Hollywood BYU at Utah, which you know, this is actually a a little is not Kentucky Louisville. Good. Boy that says something but. BYU utah. I always find it entertaining because it's two groups who are mostly the same just with a couple of like, you just kinda have to crank up the Mormon this on the BYU side slow bit higher otherwise to people who are really the same who are like we should slaughter each other. We are totally different. You know, what secretly going to be the fussiness game of the night's sleep. Oklahoma state at TCU. TCU has had a rough year. They need this game. Get bull elgible. Oklahoma state has been maybe like simultaneously the most. Well, they're basically the pit of the big twelve if we're being honest in. Yeah. But they're real they're real fussy about that too. They don't want to be the pit of the big twelve. Yeah. I feel like this has a real potential for just some some dumb angry. Now. That's that. That's some men who don't know how how to handle feelings. That's game's going to be the that's the fed up game. Right. If I ask each of you what the fed up game where the underdog is just gonna turn around after a hard year. This inevitably happens on rivalry weekend. Right. There's one team that just turns around, and it was like, you know, what? I'm scarred a monthly. I'm broke. Let's step outside. I got a bottle. And we're going to we're going to see if I can just get a little carbon Justice right here right now. And that inevitably happens right usually happens to the territorial Cup. I don't know like big. Oh, Arizona state comes in seven and five and oh man like thirty by thirty thirty right. Because it was just like added hate you so much I'm gonna make you ugly like me like where where else on the schedule. Do you see a game where somebody can do somebody can bring someone else down to their level? I mean records Michigan state, maybe but for all the wrong reasons reasons, northwestern Rutgers, Michigan state, only as a potential two sets of records band. Like, I'm drowning and you're coming to the bottom of the sea with me. I don't care if we booked die. Rutgers is like we will hold this game. Ten. Oh, ten minutes. You can state as like, okay? That sounds wonderful. Boy, you wanna get married. No wonder we spent thanksgiving together. I could see I could see that happening. I can also see. But at the way, they had are real hard year. It's been a mess and the other team coming in is favored, but not necessarily at the greatest joke Scher in their development as the squad organ at Oregon state. I wanna say Maryland at Penn State. No, one should watch that good. And I won't can we can we mention Utah state at Boise state. I think the late spot is really good because you have BYU Utah. Does pretty good BYU's pretty good. And they fucking hate each other Utah state Boise state, Utah state is really good. And the winner of this goes on to play Fresno for the mountain west title. There's a lot of play for. I mean, the ten o'clock eastern our onward a really good way to shut things down. You're going to be you're gonna feeling shit. At this point. You'll have eaten a lot of food for thanksgiving. You'll eat more of that over the course of next two days. You won't have had enough water. You will watch too much television. You will have fought with your loved ones over some shea shouldn't have fought over or some shit. You should have you will have spent money that you shouldn't have spent an first things that you didn't need. So you're going to be in weird place is this the dick pills. We're place and have to fuck your way out of Holly taking LEGO money away from us, and I've never been so mad. I mean, I know has some thoughts. I do have one more thing. I would like to stay before we close the show. Apparently. Nobody cares. That's fine. Go on. Yeah. We weighed. Well, I feel like we've been kind of cranky. This is I feel like we've been sort of you know, this season Saxon. There's been nothing. Good about it. So I would like us to you know, in the typical dump thanksgiving fashion. I would like us to also some some college football thing that we are thankful for this year. I'm happy to go first. But I just I want us to try to pull something a little sweeter out of this. If we can. Don't do. It. Don't do. You said you're going. I yeah. I can go first. This college football season. I am thankful for new coaches not being total disasters because it looked that way out of the gate AirAsia boy that higher looked real room Scott frost, we know how long that lasted UCLA you'll like disaster for a good while there, but you've all you've all sort of, you know, shown promise turn things around Tennessee has, you know, had some oil that they have Tennessee has had some good wins the season, right? Okay. We don't have to talk about Tennessee. That's but if we're if we're going to complain about how it's the same old teams just winning and nobody else is doing anything. I think we should at least be happy that new blood at some of these programs is at least showing potential promise or not or or maybe the better way to put. It is not becoming a disaster right immediately in your one which a lot of these programs. Couldn't say. That's it. That's what I'm thankful for. That's good. I think one way to look at that is we're investing in shitty. Twenty eighteen for a better twenty nineteen beyond Nebraska, UCLA, Florida state, so and so forth, whoever Louisville hires whoever who could imagine hula would hire. There are so many names to choose from. How could you settle in just one just one one very obvious one that would be so difficult? I think on a similar note even within twenty eighteen itself. I think all this mediocrity hideous can build to something great. Because for all the complaints, the playoff this year should be fucking awesome. Bam versus Clemson. Yes. We know that's going to happen. It might be the best addition yet at least in terms of team quality. And if Michigan gets in Michigan's really fun good Notre Dame gets gets washed. Notre Dame lose. That's a great play off. Yeah. Also at the FCS level thankful that James Madison. Probably softened North Dakota state up before they kill my team. So it'll go a little easier for me at least. I am thankful for the big twelve for giving us the only real sort of consistently wacky entertaining college football Saad college football at the air. They're the only people who did it it peaked on November fifth. Against texas. When to at the end of the game when they could have tied with Texas. Instead they decided to go for the win. I'm paraphrasing, of course, because what Dan holders actually said after two consecutive timeouts. Right. Call by Texas. They decided to run the same play. And Dan, a whole Rousson looked at will gear will Greer slapped him on the helmet and said, hey, you want to win the game. Let's fuck it win the game. And they went out and did that and that that was a blessing that was that was I said today in a piece that really weren't new bangers. I don't know that this attacker that that game was magnificent. So thanks to the big twelve also if I can if I can shut out something super internet wise, I would shut up at be weather Johnson for giving me the image that for me has been this entire season, which is from an Iowa bathroom remodeling company. Named beyond bath, the bath work has been has been a staple of mine online. And you know, what personally as just you know, as a person somebody trying to get through life one day time. It's given me great comfort to think of a lady who looks drunk as hell sitting in a bathtub drinking it beer in a firstly remodel bathroom with a carpeted. Toilet cover. That's. Yeah. Man. Thanks to be on bat ally. What because. That's a blue LLC designs. Yep. LLC designs out of damone. Thanks so much. Not a bottle beer or a can of their like glass. She took the and not like if we say lady in the bathtub. It's not like, ooh, sexy image like, no this lady's drawn. It's it's utilitarian, right? Yeah. It's it's more. We are all this lady. Then like Jewish null and incidental Hollywood. Are you think for I was actually going to say West Virginia as my ancestoral team for drawing my attention away from my alma mater who insists upon? Yeah. Y'all know hawk deal about that. But Spencer, kind of already said everything that I wanted to say what was for genius. So instead, I will give it to haul Johnson who is not always someone who I have admired whose teams are not always someone I have enjoyed watching play. But the past couple years as I've kind of roamed in the wilderness, emotionally, speaking, football wise, football, motionlessly, speaking looking looking for some place else to pull. This. I have never seen. I know. These guys exists. I've never seen somewhere. The juxtaposition of a guy who is such a God damn grump us who's players love playing for him visibly love playing for him so much it is so clear in his every action during games that he doesn't give shit about anything. But his players and does dutiful man, I would die for Paul Johnson right now. Like, Paul Johnson. Yuck. Ended up on the sidelines with his players after Georgia Tech gets sideline. Warning, paul. Johnson cuffs in his players on the shoulder and mocking the officials after they warn Georgia Tech's bench during a blowout win. Fuck. Yes, man. I think he would slit my throat as look at me. And I I would die for Paul Johnson. The porch cat of college football. The best ball Johnson moment ever was in the sun bowl. When it's not the best Paul Johnson. It's the best Paul Johnson player moment. It was in the sun bowl when the MVP. I can't remember he's one of the Bax was asked to talk about how much the wind meant. And I think it won't boy it had like he fumbled. He came back on it scored at TD. Anyway, he said so so tell me about that in the running back goes, oh, mash it. He just sit on a live Mike, and in the background, Paul Johnson falls out laughing like, not even like like, oops. He cussed Johnson's like, that's my man. Like, there's absolutely no pretense to this man at all. And that's not really something. You can say about a whole lot of people in the sport. Kentucky being good. I'm also thankful for man. It was it came it came at the expense of Florida and that winning streak, but that's like it should not be lost upon us that ten win Kentucky still entirely possible. You know, those are pretty good game. That's fucked up while I'm also thankful for whoever found and published the behind the scenes footage of the recording of Chile's baby back ribs song. To make him sing it again. I'm not I know now. 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"Bonus. You all listen to talk about nothing in bitch about retail, then tune in Friday. Okay. All right. We'll go ahead and you starting. Oh boy. All right. Give me a few seconds of silence. Start off the new podcast era. Keith. Hello, and welcome to. I almost said it now. Helmand set forth and short, I knew you were going to do for those who listening and we've been hitting at this for a while. Obviously beat up, felt that has taken the so long, but have rebranded the fourth short podcast because we have moved to a new. We're now we can put the podcast up on Google and I tunes and I believe he can also find it on Spotify. So our new podcast, you should be able to know quick in the post where they like announced that John posted. They didn't change the links, cook the Spotify, Lincoln, our original post. It takes the Steelers Spotify page has not not us, but I also it's about a fi- but yes, we have been rebranded as the keep sounding THAAD cast much better name my opinions shut off to Stevie mercury for that one. So, yeah, we have a new bit of initiative here to bring us the Panthers coverage. We're gonna try to do it twice a week. Making more obviously you say that has already been doing shut up. Yeah, Brian, we've been doing twice a week for. So we obviously made it more available of league is enjoy. We also have couple new recording outlets the experience a little better. But anyway, I'm joined here by John. I'm Brad. Welcome to the keep sounding podcasts how you guys doing tonight. This well, pretty swell. Good, pretty good. Swell, speaking of doing pretty good the Panthers doing pretty good, just beat the Bengals thirty one twenty one on Sunday, not was not expecting that. You are Panthers are officially the dominant cat species is officially the Queen city. Yes, can't forget that. Charlotte is real in limbo since two thousand sixteen when the two teams tied. So glad we finally put our Mark on that one beat those Bengals goddamn the lineal. What team. I don't know what millennials. The Queen cities. Okay. You know, hey works. We're, we talked about it last week. They are the youngest team on average in the NFL around twenty five avocado toast eaten freaking so. Deal with it. Hey, I mean, I'm down to make fun of millennials all day Brian. I just I just didn't get. We're going there. Yeah, I'm Brian. You're on Moreno less makes this so funny. You're the most millennial on taking friendly fire here by far the most Molyneaux person on our on the masthead for sure that. That. Yes, it's not even close. I don't like Alvarado's at least that. Well, it's because they're gross. It's the right thing. Yeah, they're terrible here, absolute terrible. Three of us. Eight Alicata this pretty funny, hot dogs sandwiches. People give me shit with or people get cold. I'm like, no, don't like avocado. It looks and tastes looks at the baby. I don't wanna eat it. Mukhlis. It looks as if the taste of texture, both like. Both everything about it said like baby shit and is just as fat. Yeah. And I've tried to like it. It's not like I've, I've given up on it. I've, I've made it into guacamole at its spices to it. I've done all kinds of things. It's just it's bad. Like there's nothing rebutting Mable about it and it's weird because like you buy avocado and it's it's, it's not even ripe and ready to go. It's like hard as a fuck and rock and it's like, Nope, not ready to be yet. Nope, not ready to be eaten yet and then five minutes later. Sorry, I'm rotten missed your opportunity. You know, there's there's no way to get even for damn now and then an hour later. Yes, I'm ready. It's they're still gross when made guacamole too. I don't know if you guys grew with that or not. I do agree with that. Take for the most part. I've had guacamole from one place that I like. I'm never add to that. I like guacamole. And I mean, the only reason I like this, the guacamole, I like, I don't really love it. I just I can tolerate it. Yeah, and that's it. It's terrible. It doesn't matter. Doesn't matter. It's just it's bad. And if you'd like avocado, you have a bad opinion about food. Trustee avocado. Fuck me being shit into the Panthers game on sun past Sunday, but. The youngest team, Andy, Dalton, probably like sang team the NFL. So they probably like goddess. Andy, Dalton, totally avocado defense, shove that down his throat after they sacked him what four times and pick them off three. Other Lewis picked him out fully rack stats interception. I apply policies. Don't you forget it forget so. Did you see captain model quote about that. Yeah, I was gonna bring that. That's my favorite thing about the whole game. Captain Mullins bidder because Leuke clearly stolen interception from Luke, and that's great of having to steal the interception for me to be fair. He hasn't picked ball off. That's a motto. And also to be fair. I gotta give him a boy, some credit. He still is the Panthers all time. Franchise leader in the Keithly didn't let them take it because out of hurt his his Mark of taking like eight interceptions for five touchdowns or whatever insane ratio is. Yeah, he's got. I think he's got a career interceptions and Carolina in five of fixes like can't beat that rate so so he should send Luca thank you. God. While we're talking about really relevant Leuke things, did you guys notice? Was it just me? But when he left the game to get Ivy, he's like real fat. Now. Yeah, no. Notice that. No, I don't pay that much attention to that kind of stuff. It was just like, maybe like hopefully one person listening to this talking about, but may have both sitting there like and Luca's looking bloated right now when he was going back to the locker beginning I the Sani was hung over. Is that what you're saying? Saying he was the hydrated in need. I via not trying to sing. Suspending the Panthers performance. So they did not allow a hundred yard rusher this time. So that was good. Giovanni Bernard was still still ran for believe five and a half yards per carry. But mostly I came on couple chunk runs. He also put up seventeen point. Nine fantasy parents. This real quick on the capital, and he has seven creator sections with Panthers and five touchdowns. And four the neck. As far as I can tell, maybe five, maybe five hundred, but he for sure his last four interceptions elven touchdowns good for him. Doesn't. He only have like twelve in his entire career because he only had like four in Minnesota five soda, Chris career. So he's still almost fifty percent even if you add his whole career. That's pretty good. So I can see why we put them at life partner for a while because you know, he's got that. You got to run back. Nose to the end zone as they say. Sure. Does. Well, it's the fact that he's only like five foot three. He's like the Muggsy Bogues of the NFL. Nobody can see. Acceptably quick. That's true. Oh, that's Colin Jones of God. So to give a brief rundown on how the Panthers defense fared against the Bengals. Obviously, we mentioned four interceptions and there's three sacks, total twos. Zach, I looked it up. It was about ahead one and. Addison had one. Yeah, one of them was one of them was taken away because Dalton was throwing the ball like about how to strip sack, but they took it away from him. Knocked AJ green out of the game after he only caught five passes for fifty eight yards. I think like I think that the one of those receptions went for thirty one yards and it wasn't against James Bradbury. So that means that brab is only responsible for receptions for twenty seven yards, which is pretty good. Iraq those numbers up pretty quick. He left the game the first half early third quarter. I'm pretty sure. So he was. Well, we were not shutting. We got lucky to get hurt, but yet to spotlight FAO badeah he was a surprising active for the Panthers. We, I believe it was. I forget who it wasn't. Our slack China pointed out, but I think maybe it was Billy. But a he went active over marquees Hanes than we were all kind of like, that's weird. And he proceeded to have a sack almost another strip sack passive lection and an interception. How about that? So we'll start with. I want wanna say, yeah, go ahead. I do want to say is cool. The story as it is we need to be careful to not equate the awesome story with him being a superstar player. Hopefully he'll become a good player, but like he had, he had one sack and interception on fall like he's not super cool story. Hopefully he'll be consistent tributary, but not quite time to call him like the answer to all our. So you're saying I should. I should not. I should call the hotel in canton, Ohio, and like, cancel my put it on hold. Yeah, maybe cancel it. I mean, there will still be put. I don't think he's going to be Ryan to layer. I don't think this is going to be a situation where he's like, does nothing else for the rest of his career. But you know John's right? We can't expect him to do what he did on Sunday. Every time he goes out because he only played nineteen snaps and that's, you know, he's not gonna get, you know, a forced fumble, a sack and interception tip ball. He's not gonna do that every day. You're right. I was going to bring up Brian Lehrer actually. I think the difference here is that Ryan delay did that against. I, I think the tackle was it was like a. Guy where he got two Saxons first game speed rush. The guy. It was actually against his former team like it was. That's why he knew that he knew the team where it was washed, that's that's a good production for a seventeenth snap play. And I think that Carolina doesn't need them to be anything more than that more than like a relatively productive brocade defensive. But again, great story. And he seems to have a similar skill set someone like Mario Addison marquees Hanes says speed rusher, and he's got, certainly very good athleticism, but just wanted to highlight that because that was a great story. As far as the rest of the defense goes Dante Jackson with two picks. Is currently tied for the lead the league with three picks in the first three games. So I thought he overall played well, as far as tackling went to. He seems like the only guy. Like do something with the ten yard cushions. They liked to play might because he's in the fastest player on the field most of the time. But Brad, what are your thoughts on Dante Jackson. I really, really like Dante Jackson, he is probably going to win defensive rookie of the year. Don't at me. It's going to happen. He's going to have probably twenty interceptions if he keeps going this rate. You know, he has three three games. He, he actually is much much better than I thought he was going to be. I thought he would just be kinda like Josh Norman, where it would take a year or two or even three before we really benefited from drafting him. But he looks like a superstar in the making. Like all kidding aside. He looks the part he he's very fast. He's very aggressive. He doesn't back down. He doesn't eight, doesn't care. Like if he's outmatched you know, he just gets out there any place. And I really, really like that. And I'm glad that we drafted him. Yeah, and most of the issues he seemed to have our at just been like some technique issues or some kind of a wariness issues. Nothing that's like, oh, he's just physically outmatched like he tracks ball. Well, obviously he's got the speed, the burn like he's, he has all the tools he needs to just seems like you need some refinement. It's not like it's not a situation where like come on, see more rich, just like he just cannot. Break fast enough to make plays and you just can't track the ball in the air and stuff like that. They're, they're Worley had that issue. Well, the nice thing working out for him is the fact that even if he does get he can run a four, three forty. So he's fast enough where it's not a theme breaking as Darryl wurley getting beat so. But yeah, the panther seemed themselves quite a nice tandem right now at a defensive back mean Bradbury's despite take relief in the game early. He's had a relatively good. I three games. He deflected three passes against the Bengals. The also had a really nice one on one tackle with you. Bernard. So it seems like they finally have to start or caliber corners instead of just throwing throwing darts at the wall and hope one of them sticks now. So what what do we think about that. Breaking news alert. I think you pretty much a shot brilliant former panther great sign with Green Bay. So that's off the table. So it's a good thing. We have the cornerback solution in place quarterback spot lockdown. Obviously, nickel corner is. A little here. We'll say, I will point out at one point. Somehow bulldozed a right tackle. Incompletion, which I found to be quite impressive. So is letting strat his skill is still there, but. It seems like they really. Yeah, it's that's like the one thing. Oh boy. Well, then that's Cornell rivers, supposedly I would. I would say Colin Jones, to be honest, I think once he's once he's gone. Colin. Actually wrong. It's Lorenzo Doss. The craziest defensive back of all time according to Panthers fans in training camp. Cam Newton twice. Let's see. Great. At one practice, speaking of wrong opinions about the greatest defensive backs. Colin Jones was very bad yesterday. I thought our jeez unday. I thought. Sunday. Well, he was he was very bad Saturday and yesterday too. But he would. I said, my team in times chasing after it, open receiver who got who burned him. It seemed like every play like Tyler void, long touchdown college. Oh, and after there's another long play Colin Jones chasing after him. He always like three sets behind a receiver runs open down the field. Several. Do you wanna do. Yeah. And I mean, air fairplay to Colin Jones fairplay to him. He's doing a job that he's done equipped to do that. He's being asked to do anyway. So because the coaching staff is being stopping. We want to go. It's not jars full our initiative right now as far as Argos right now brattle I think I'll let you do the honors that. Yes, you know, if you watch the Panthers play on Sunday against the Bengals and you saw Colin Jones chasing literally every wide receiver that he covered, you will know that the answer to the problem of not having a quality starting safety is not on the roster. We lost enor- Searcy to a concussion. The only safeties we have let our Colin Jones Mike Adams and Rashawn galled and Mike Adams is one hundred and three years old or Shawn golden is a rookie and Colin Jones is terrible. Yeah, we say he's the ace that runs the place. We do all that stuff. We're trolling you when we do that. I hope you know that and if you don't now you do, he's garbage. Well, I don't wanna say garbage, but he's not good at playing safety. He's good at playing special teams and that's it. There's a guy. Sitting at home right now, what if I told you we should be thirty for thirty special in this? What if I told you? There's a guy sitting at home right now who will sign a veteran cheap deal. He's twenty six years old. He's a good player. He would make this team better and we could get him tomorrow for relatively little money. I would be would be all for that. I don't wanna be like. Answers, not sir. I mean, it's it's. It's beyond shameful at this point, and I'm going to switch to being Rio for a minute. Know if you don't know this. I'm talking about Eric, read, there's absolutely no excuse for Eric read to not have a job. I know that there there is a certain subset of fans who don't like that. We talk about this so much and have asked us to stop. I'm not going to. I'm sorry, Eric read deserves to be employed by NFL team and it should be the Panthers. We need somebody like him. We need a safety. We cannot keep going with first of all, we can't keep going with three guys. It doesn't matter who those three guys are. You need four to have a proper rotation, so we gotta bring somebody in anyway and you know, yeah, Desmond southward is nice. He knows the team. He's been here for two or three years, bounced back and forth from the practice squad. That's all well and good. That's not good enough. If. If you're willing to. Compete. If you want to win a division that has drew Brees Matt, Ryan, and Ryan fits magic in it. You cannot settle for desma southward coming off the practice squad. You've got to get quality and whether you agree with his political stance or not, that doesn't make to shits difference. It's about him on the football field and what he can do on the football field. That's what matters. And you know, Ron Rivera, Maury, Herni. If you're listening to this podcast because I'm sure you do a home sign Eric Reed. It's really not that hard. Just sign Eric, read that solves your problem. You don't have to call somebody up. You don't have to have tryouts. You don't have just bring them in. Torrey Smith wants him on the team. Let him vouch for him. Torrey Smith seems to be a pretty good dude, and you know, just bring him in. It's don't make it harder than half of a second suggestion. And that would be a bold Schneider call up in Seattle, hammers, first name, see what a. They'll take Earl Thomas. I'm fine with that too. Yeah, you know if if you don't wanna sign in agreed because you don't want the media circus because I will concede that point. There's going to be a media shit show. No matter who signs that's just the way the media work point. Everybody, you know, don't blame me for being Advocaat assist way they do that. Nobody talks about the Panthers enough. So maybe we want that. Yeah, hey, it will. We'll be in the news, hey. But you know the the, the other option is to trade for Thomas. If you're willing to give up a first round pick, then just try Earl Thomas. He's the best player that you can get. It's it's expensive. But you can do that, you know, and people have said, well, what about this player? What about that player? None of them are any good like Mike Mitchell. If Mike Mitchell were still playable, he would have already been signed the fact that we haven't called him. It's tell you everything you need to know we. He's been here before, so he knows the system and he still hasn't been picked up like they call Desmond southward instead of Mike Mitchell. So that's probably not going to happen for whatever reason. They'll sign him tomorrow. Yeah, he did like that twin. For context for this listen. Joe Peirce tweeted about how. At they're happy with what they have on the roster and that Eric read, basically wasn't in the cards, was kind of the undertone of that tweet and Mike Mitchell lights that tweet, which I found to be a little interesting things he's watching probably waiting waiting for a phone call. If I were to guess, it's very interesting is watching. It's juicy not. He wasn't mentioned at all him. So. Yeah. The thing that gets me is I understand that Ron is going to protect his guys like I don't. I don't expect anything different from Ron, like he's not going to say, yeah, call Jones's shit. We're not going to. We got us all. He's not going to do that. I get that. But you know, don't just say I like my guys. We're happy where we are. You can't say that after watching Andy fucking Dalton, shred Hus. Tyler Boyd wide open down the field. How many times did that happen? It was at least three. You can't say you're happy with that. You can't do it. Let's safety play. Hasn't been great. No. I mean, we honestly, we got lucky that AJ green got hurt because of AJ green would have still been there. We would have lost I. The thing is that we still all out like six and a half yards per play. We've, we thanked pretty heavily on the turnovers. We did all right on third down what you've been all year, but we have a pretty pretty dependent on the turnovers depending on over not a good recipe for good defense season law. If turnovers. No, it's it's awesome stain -able at all. And we also benefited from Cincinnati being really bad at converting on third down. A believe. If remember correctly, the Kevin Harlan and rich Gannon pointed out that their last in the league and internet. So we, you know it, it helped us. It helped us out that they're bad at something and we take advantage of will. The patent it Ron Rivera wake up into in December, and the defense will find its way a bit a little. And then the south of the Bengals have very good offenses to be fair but has little. It looks like it's it's going to be on unit at best, but certainly not like the dominant twenty thirteen. Well. Could you imagine the twenty thirteen defense with this nor Furner auctioneers segue into the offense. So, yeah. Thank you. Appreciate your contributions. Yes. So. Panther's offense is actually looked really good, and they've been multifaceted, and they've made a Justice. So for the most part in the first two weeks, lot of throwing with Cam Newton underneath not a whole lot of running with Christian McCaffrey. Twin tackles like a little bit maybe makes it in their here and there. C. j. Anderson got a few touches, but for the most part, it was just underneath passing to open up the deeper passing game, I guess. But this game they they pulled a hard one eighty. They went twenty eight carries for Christian McCaffrey for a hundred eighty four yards. Rushing which was easily career-high by like one hundred twenty yards in rushing. Cam Newton also ran the ball ten times for thirty six yards in two touchdowns. They he only had to throw the ball twenty four times. He got a hundred and fifty yards and two touchdowns still maintaining a solid completion percentage. What a very different offense. We know he got kosher that six. What a very different audit dangerously close. Yes, John, I'll start with. Yeah, it was very heavy passing offense. And all of a sudden they just ran the ball down, very good, rushing defenses throats. So what are your thoughts on that? Christian McCaffrey is only a slot, so that is true. Just like just like her San. Yep. He can't. Make Africa with his career high under nine hundred eighty four yards is also forty six more yards in anybody else's ever has rushed forward in the first three weeks of the NFL season. So it's the season I. It's also fourth all time in Panthers history. One gang shuttle from game this year is one thirty eight by Matt, read it, and we do. So McCaffrey is got got the strangle hold on that title is also third in the league in rushing, which is pretty cool, and he's three yards behind as equally at end. Everyone's favorite to lead the league in rushing met. And the funny thing is to like, there's always that argument while they run their that that stretched out there stats. But McCaffrey's longest run was forty five yards. I would still put him in one hundred and thirty nine yards on the game, which would still be very solid, rushing performance. And I mentioned this in the slack chat earlier, but the Panthers on film, at least with the north Turner, Cam new offense haven't really put a lot of like devotion to the run on film prior to playing Cincinnati. So that must have been a a major like one eighty. As far as like calling goes like they were probably expecting Cam Newton to throw the ball to McCaffrey in the flat, a lot more passing through twenty four passes where they just they ran the ball forty. One times this game. So. It's really it's really weird to see offense where we different things each week depending on the game situation. And I was shown I literally, I literally fell off my bed just laid there after I saw. I saw the rushing attempts clips. The passing attempts. That's just not. It's, it's, it's nice to see that north Turner adjusts his game plan each week instead of just saying, and as we've mentioned before, this is the play. This is the game plan. We're sticking to this game plan and I will give it to my Shula. He had those like really beautiful one off play calls where it was like perfect exploited defense for touchdown. Good example would be Christian. McCaffrey's decoy play against the patriots week. Three of last year where Fosse Whitaker ended up being the guy scoring. North Turner did something like that in this game with c. j. Anderson where CJ Anderson ran in for touchdown passing. But he didn't then run the ball into the gut of the defense entire game either. So it's it's refreshing. Also weird place to be. I don't know how to feel about that. I do. Excited yet. I love it. I'm just glad that we don't expect to go out there on on first down every single time in running up the middle for two yards. Like there's a chance, we'll throw at deep, there's a chance we'll run a screenplay. There's a chance we will just run it up the middle for two yards, but we have more variety now. There were a total of seven different receivers who caught passes from Cam Newton on his fifteen completions, which is also good in my opinion because whenever Cam Newton spreads the ball around, he does pretty well. There were some missed opportunities, Devin funchess drive a couple of, you know, passes that I would have liked to see him real in. I think he could've Torrey Smith also had a couple of drops, but overall, it seems like they're doing good job. Not putting it all on one guy in the passing game, which we've seen a lot in the Mike Shula era, whether it was Kelvin. Benjamin were Devin funchess last year. They're starting to spend the ball round quite alive. I mean, like Jerry Lewis, right? Was a huge deal in the first two weeks. He was very involved in the passing offense. He only had one reception for seven yards this week. On one target. So. And I wasn't taking that away from immersing parody first down. Yeah, it's just nice to see. I just wanted to point that out like they will. Have a game plan for that team at adjusted as necessary, which you know seems like common sense, but the Panthers fans, that's just it's like it's like rewriting the book on football right now. So we think this is going to be sustained for the whole season. Right? We definitely hope so. I mean, the big, the big thing for me, we hope so is that the offense of line is held up surprisingly well. And I think that will have sustained or not because it's not like most passing concepts the NFL aren't good or don't have or don't have merit to them. But when you have an offensive line that keeps your quarterback protected enough that he can make those passes that that definitely helps send this patchwork offense of line has surprisingly done that. So I think that they could be sustained. I definitely think so. Just because you don't face a lot of better fronts than UC Cincinnati and Dallas, and they did relatively well against them. Atlanta's front four's, not anything Snyder waters. Spying Cam Newton most of that game. But yeah, you're right. But I guess we'll find because after the by the giants have the Redskins in eagles back back in the ravens, that'll really be the test to see if this offense. No, get Dave Gettleman Mike Shula. Benja downplay that downplay that to my grave. This normally be the time where we would talk about predictions, but the Panthers can't lose this Sunday because they're on a bye. So any lasting thoughts that you guys have, anything you want to bring up before we. The stink closed down. Subscribe to us on. I tunes Spotify Stitcher, Google podcast, whatever you listen to your podcast, please hit the button and subscribe give chance. I think you'll like you say to the two right now. 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Hour 2: 9/18/19

The Paul Finebaum Show

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Hour 2: 9/18/19

"The Paul Finebaum show podcast has been brought to you by the capital one sabre card earned four percent cashback on dining and entertainment two percent of grocery stores and one percent on all all other purchases now when you go out you cash in what's in your wallet terms apply cried passion then pattern tree of of college football leaves here. This is the Paul Finebaum show our to podcast welcome back glad you're with us here here as we begin the second hour of Wednesday program and we'll get back to your calls a lot of guests to come. We've already talked about the Tennessee Volunteers Jim Allison Mississippi Jamal. Thank you afternoon. How you doing thank you for taking my call. Thank you heard talking about We can't give. Let's get these coaches from where they gotta fit. Oh program Martin Thank Joe. Lo head is a good coach for Mississippi State. I don't think I know the answer that yet and their lives part of the problem. I think he's a really good football coach. He's smart but sometimes it's what's that. Do you think he's from Mississippi State. I'm not sure I I've yet to see any indication Asian that he is have you. I think he is facing a really important week or a couple of weeks here because fans are uneasy and they're back to where they were a little bit last year after the Florida Game Jim L. What are your friends saying the same thing. I feel like the we're taking a step back so many stills back man I I wanNA say croome area but yeah you know we had Kerman yesterday and he was a he was the right coach briefly but it I whatever reason that I'm don't know why he he couldn't get it done. I thought he had everything that you needed but you know the standard. Some I'm still is not as important everything well. He's he's had a couple of bad luck quarterback back and that that ultimately could be what decides how he does this year. I think we should go with job. He should based on the job. I think I think he may be proven right in the hey thank you very much for the call great to have you on big. Daddy is is calling next Hey Big Daddy. Hey Buddy. Hey there. How're you doing Paul. I am doing great. Thank you I if I want to thank you for taking my call and I want to say that my GRANDPA's mindless foul yeah I had a brother and all my Powell that my oldest sister married but based said the couch my grandpa big owl and I thought they meant Powell. POW love so I wanNA Nonni mess but I'm just gonNa cut through the chase here I won't to know and I'm okay. I'll call back later and get into or Squirrel and barrel and all them but I want to know if you think my dogs have a chance Georgia to get through this fine. We'll start with Notre Dame. How do you feel about. I like George very much in this game I'm I've been talking about it all day here and I think Notre Dame is a good football team. I think George it really is a at a much higher level. Georgia is in the top three in the country. I think they they may be the second best team in the country out and I love to hear that if I was there right now. I wrote behead and tell you thank you but he wasn't there. So I just want to say that a really we live this show and I get on all the time every day watching it. Come home from work. Watch Watch watch and you're doing a great job my friend well thank you that means a great deal to us so we don't get many compliments here so that is reassuring great to have you on todd is up next todd and go right ahead thank you. Are you doing man. I tell to you in a while. What have you been up to all just just leave and got back problems well how birthday this week but God's into I've had a good life but in semester chrome was on yesterday and all we have walked around rabbit they we ain't said it but the biggest. Injustice University of Alabama ever done was not hired him as head coach when we hired Mike new boat. Do you both will know it was it was it wasn't dubose. Mike Shula was hired over so Krim our way back. Hanbo that that the crew was up for the crime really wasn't considered when dubose got the job but he was a finalist when Shula got. It's a job and that really I totally agree with you. I was for our first semester crewmen and I thought Alabama hired Mike Shula because they they they did not want the controversy over hiring the first african-american which was a total mistake considering history adversary -versity of Alabama it would have been one of the greatest things they'd ever done and they just want the safe route with the son of the famous coach and it was a disastrous decision yeah and I think we pray. I mean the price for it. Oh so Vesta call groom has always been a good Christian man and he was an excellent coach and to show you I mean he had such a career in the pros and stuff go off but we're absolutely you're absolutely right it. If you got time for me it lose track of me this year. Follow Georgia looked better to make Georgia and Ohio state better than anybody Georgia salute flag. They're the team that we kinda used to be. I mean we K- run the ball offensive line eighteen. Nobody immersion us and we don't have to or healthy. I give you ever. That's going to hurt you Arcaro. Hey great to have you on todd always a pleasure. Thank you very very much. Let's check in with Harwood who was on the from Alabama Hardwood Eighth. Oh thanks for taking my call. Thank you roll todd I think we can tie on anybody any school but you know say to get hurt. WE'RE GONNA be in trouble level. I didn't know he was going to get hurt say if he was to get hurt then wedeman double your member about thirty five forty years ago we had a bad wreck on fifty nine right at Rainbow City X. and IOS in traffic. AH COME UP. Don't go you shook. Your hand got to traffic you. Remember that I sure do I sure do remember that. I thought about got day and I said I'm on call. I got those traffic. You know US coming going. I think he worked Birmingham Post and had a radio okay I sure did you're absolutely right way back. I've been retired now thirteen years but I thought about that and I said well we got to follow through that traffic but anyway takes every say one more thing. Go smiles on is not a Coke Alber taxes. AM's going get beat Texas. AM going to be over two to three touchdown about that down on the wall that I don't know about but I do appreciate you giving me through the traffic. I'm not sure I agree with your football prediction of thank you anyway. Heat is in Florida peak right ahead. You're on the air a longtime gator fan longtime Paul Finebaum band thank you yes sir often ask you. How do you think ain't coach. Mullen is GonNa work with Trask and Jones at quarterback has he ever had to do that before because I know he had that. Prescott last year he was certainly in a position were remember when he was about to supplant. Felipe a but I mean he he's a great quarterback coach. I'm not concerned about that. What do you think the Tennessee Florida game prediction I I will. I will say something a little bit crazy. I think Tennessee is going to make it close. Okay okay all right. Well love your show. appreciate everything and go caters gray tabby. I mean obviously Florida is is the favourite to win but I'm under the impression that Tennessee we'll go down there and compete. I know that sounds very cliche ish but I think Tennessee is not nearly nearly as bad as they have looked. Ally is up next to hello ally doing. We're doing great. Eli Thank you you good or eagles and then we'll talk to you all right thank you. I'm doing great good. Don't get you a prediction from first of all. I've I've been listening. I don't think they say going to beat us about two touchdowns leasing no. I don't think so at all. I mean right now. Why why would you I mean I I. I mean Auburn has been impressive times this year. a an in an I thought played miserably against Clemson on the road so I don't know how much you want to read into that but I think I don't even know what the line is in this game but I think it's pretty it's tossed game yeah. I think it's an by three and a half stocks on it. I know both defense is pretty good and people talk about it being a decent battle but I hope we can get it out great to hear from you. Thank you were up against break more to come here on a Wednesday afternoon. You can call us at eight five five to fourteen not seventy eight five. We'll number of guests to come. We've already chatted about the Tennessee Football Situation Notre Dame and Georgia Florida Florida much to come after listening to the Paul Finebaum show podcast. We're back glad you're all with us here on this Wednesday afternoon. Kate is in Maryland cade. Thank you good afternoon. Poppy Shit you taking my call thank you. I just wanted to I've listened to most of what you had to say about the upcoming game and between Notre Dame Georgia. Unfortunately I have to agree with a lot of it especially statistically looking at it. I got two questions. I was just wondering one. If there is any possible way the Notre Dame could pull off the win what you think that'll be and to Who Do you think this game means more for. Obviously Notre Dame has a pretty rough passive losing primetime games. He gets top five teams so do you think this would be more important for. Notre Dame to kind of get rid of that stigma that thirty three loss last year Georgia going forward with the rest to their season. Yeah you know this is GonNa Sound Strange of course everything I'm been saying lately sounds sounds strange but I think it's more important for or Notre Dame from for this reason notre. Dame doesn't have the opportunities that Georgia has to to get to a championship and Notre Dame loses this game you don't we know what that's going to mean. They still have a number of other games southern CAL and and obviously Michigan but let's let's say that Georgia loses by six points be a surprise Georgia if it wins out is still going to the College Football playoff and there's no there's no keeping them out even with a home loss to to a top ten team. Notre Dame is not guaranteed that because they don't play a conference championship game and there may still be some residue addu remaining from last year. Even though Notre Dame was undefeated they performed so poorly in the playoffs that there may be some buyer's remorse on that college football committee yeah. Unfortunately a lot of that probably is true but you know hopefully we can go against what a lot of the statistics are saying and applauded win also. How do you feel about Georgia adding extra seating the stadium against Notre Dame on Saturday listen. I think it's it's one of the biggest events a How big is it. I don't know I think sometimes these things are overdone. Georgia's from a non conference standpoint. It's certainly a huge. I think Georgia's had bigger games there than than this one. Hey thank you very much. Kay great to have you on Mason is in North Carolina. Hello Mason. Hey Paul. How's it going. It is going great. Thank you good. I'll just have a really simple question. I'm a big civil bulldog's. Adam went to sit a little You know my question. Is We beat Georgia tech this past weekend. We'd be South Carolina a couple of years ago and as you know we were tied with Alabama at halftime last year now. Obviously I know we're not gonNA beat Alabama but my question is is we were play Alabama the series you think we can maybe I don't know up a couple of points on them. At half time this year data Sweeney said that was Alabama's toughest game of the year Mason. The citadel has really acquitted itself well. I know sometimes we in the media tend to use it as a punchline when we can't think of anything thing else but it it has enough going for it that it shouldn't be in that regard anymore. Yes sir. I mean you know our coach to the great job. You know Mike now. He's got a tough job there but you know if you know history great coach. I'll tell you this. I happen to be on on the sidelines. Mason for the Citadel South Carolina game a couple of years ago. I I can't remember the circumstances someone was unable to be there and I filled in literally at the last moment as a sideline reporter because we were already there for the SEC nation show and on the sidelines watching and going. How is this happening but it wasn't a fluke citadel was more physical than than South Carolina and they were also better coach. Yes sir well. You know I I can tell you. There's much you know obviously the coaching was amazing. I was actually involved with athletic programs. While I was down there. I was involved with basketball but regardless of the same conditioning program considered all is I mean it's second down and that's kind of what it comes down to. I believe in the weight room in the off season. just you know. I obviously I was not an athlete but I was able to Kinda see what was going on in athletic. I am the way remember that really difference but yes are great to have you on. Thank you very very much. Let's continue more calls in read his next up in Atlanta Hillary. WHAT'S UP Paul. Hey there. Hey I say is gonNA obsolete. Step alone out by virtue. I don't think they have a chance. Can't you don't think Notre Dame has a chance. I don't think they don't match up at all. That seems to be the consensus. This is of the people with whom we've spoken yes yeah you. Andrea Swift rushing for two hundred yard touchdowns Jake from WHO fifty two touchdowns Tyler Clark's just GonNa go through the Notre Dame's off line in books get sacked seven times at least like there's just mismatches all over the board said great. How old are you on fifteen. You are one savvy analysts there for fifteen read. I mean look at that rush defense so far I know Louisville mixed it up against him but I mean come on the best running back in America or is Notre Dame's run defense that they don't spend a chance. Hey great to have you on call again. Soon really really enjoyed that. Let's move along and David is in Gulf shores Alabama. Hello David Grappling Paul. Thanks for taking my call. Thank you very tonight. I just wanted to say that Blake reporter from Tennessee. He must have failed in his head. He thinks Tennessee GonNa make a bowl game after Alabama Alabama game. They'll be warning six. They are very likely to be there right yeah. That'd be one in six after Alabama Arma game. There's not a lot of people talking about. We don't eat a Alabama. Don't need a rushing game with two and he's he's wide receivers that we got reason. They don't have a rushing games all offensive. I can't block for rush. Rushing plays dolphins line definitely need some male but to me. I think we're really in a rebuilding year but that offensive line and all the injuries aren't defense is It's GONNA be a rebuilding in year and next year we lose all those receivers and to definitely be a rebuilding year. What do you think about those yeah. I mean listen this year. This year is it's to be determined. the factor schedule was manageable. Maybe Alabama can find a few ways but right now. I don't like Alabama and a high stakes game against Georgia Clemson clemes in or a right now though I think are better than Alabama yeah right now they are Alabama fan but I you can see the writing on the wall. There is a lot of negativism but that can change. Hey thanks for the call good to have you on Bobby in South Carolina Donahue Bobby. Hey Paul glad to talk to you about friends. Mike you gotta go he he he the last three. Ball Mall Games other than the Alabama game he lost the ACC teams he lost to Clemson lost to North Carolina and he lost the Virginia and then the North Carolina game he I guess about deandre the first half and instead of him trying to score he takes a knee and then he gets North Carolina had gone ninety eight eight yards for a touchdown in the fourth quarter and then he gets the ball and he's got a yard to go with four Sam. He don't go for it. Go rely on his defense he around the defense. It's just gave up a ninety eight yard touchdown drive. What kind of cocaine is that. Well listen. There's a lot of criticism most jammed but you know the the facts are that he has a nearly twenty million dollar buyout so whether you like his coaching or not the appetite for getting rid oh him is pretty small well. The deal with that is the idea that we've got. He deals more in friendship then he doesn't coach it. That's what happened to the baseball. Program is happening to the football program if you a friend of our ADP's you got a job. I feel good now. I'm I'm a friend of his. I all you got a job in Paul. Right now but when you say how about you on the sideline at the citadel game a couple of years ago that ain't no coach. You'd never see he. Don't get upset or anything you know what I mean. the head coach yeah well he well he was that was a that wasn't him. that was the interim coach that was feeling for spurrier. I was Sean Elliott. I'm trying to remember yeah. Well look at what Florida get rid of bust out because he couldn't win. That's right and in South Carolina the good old lady we got a it goes friendship on my big buy out. Give them a good job. Eh just yeah listen. I don't mind I mean I think most champ the hiring muschamp was fine. I don't know I don't know why when they gave him the extension of whatever they did he was able to it was such a one sided contract because I don't think he was ever a slam dunk to be successful. Listen thanks for the call. We are heading to a break mortem here on a Wednesday afternoon. You're listening to the Paul Finebaum. Show podcast the welcome back. We are really glad you're here. Brandon Marcello joining us always something going on Eh Auburn University Brandon great to have you on and I'm almost hesitant to even bring this up in a caller earlier and that's the latest twitter are mentioned of Gus Malzahn Future. please address that that same rumor came up guess. What is it now eleven months ago and I'd never see that person that coach coming to Auburn. Anyway people may wish and dream and all that but people I've talked to one of which is close to Bob Stoops. I don't believe he would he would come over and I believe he's completely done with college coaching having said that. Oh my goodness it's September eighteenth can we can we hold off on this until Gus. Malzahn loses a game. I Yeah I mean that. That's the most amazing thing he's undefeated is in the top ten and a win. Saturday would put him in a very strong position. Let's go right there. it's pretty obvious this is a critical game for both schools but to me the upside for Auburn win here and you start looking at the next big game which looked lose -able and that's in Gainesville. Suddenly Auburn is going to have a lot of momentum going for it. Yeah I mean th this game is going to set up the entire season for over you go in you beat. Texas saying and only give you confidence but it proves that you'd go in winning in a hostile environment with a true freshman quarterback but also do one with comparable talent and I think if they do that then they'll they'll probably go into that Florida game maybe as a slight favorite and he's got the possibility of going. LSU which Auburn hasn't won since nineteen ninety nine but if you lose to Lsu it's not the the world because over gets Georgia and Alabama at home and we saw how that turned out two years ago and album is able to reach Sec Championship Game One win away in the championship game from reaching the College football playoffs so you know listen every game different offer could lose against Texas saying them they could lose a Florida. We're not even discussing that but four to suddenly looks beatable for Auburn and because this game it's sexist saying them. It's the first one on doc it makes us so much bigger but also I think Texas saying M's a tougher matchup than say Florida at this point in the season and to me. It's a really really a coin flip game going into college station the L. Let's talk about it because Listen Auburn won the the organ game. We all know how they wanted then everyone when has an opinion on what could have been but since then Auburn has been off-broadway so to speak what what have you seen during these last two tuneup games they've they've gotten their running game going once again you know to lane. They started slow then they gotta go in. The second half gets Kent State. It was just run run run throughout the entire game. They rushed for four hundred sixty seven yards the best mark they had as a team in three years and that's how they're going to have to win games. This year is how they've always one gangs and our Gusmao slots when they have a good running offense and it certainly looks better than it did last season and that was the the primary reason why are they struggled so much last year the run game they get going it. Put a lot of pressure on Garrett's didn't make plays and he got sacked a lot. Turn the ball over an awesome awesome. Close Games shouldn't have lost like Tennessee because of turnovers now. They've got the run game going. That's a good sign. The problem now is that they're going up against the Texas defense. That is very good against the run. They're allowing less than one hundred yards per game on the ground the team out of all these teams they face including clemson listen. That's the most successful in the ground against them is Lamar which by the way picked up more than half their yards on four of their twenty five runs this past weekend again so this is a very stiff test on the defensive line for Auburn's run game and they're gonNA have to run the ball to win this game and the win any game aim this season for Auburn. I think they gotta hit one hundred and fifty yards rushing this weekend to win if they do that. I think they went because I trust Auburn's defense at least slow down a and M. at some big moments when they need to but the the biggest question the one that they have yet to prove outside of that second half against Oregon again is running the ball against a really good defense and they need to do it from start to finish beat. Texas saying you know what happened last year in that big lead and and let it go but but until then brandon and I know that sometimes these things don't matter sometimes they do but this has been a bizarre series has not yeah very strange I mean you know starting in two thousand twelve with am coming to Auburn and just absolutely blowing the doors off of the Tigers and everybody realizing using the gene Chizik era was ending that the height except it was delayed until after the Iron Bowl but you know the road team in the series is one every game up until until last season and it looked like an was on its way they were up twenty four to fourteen offer got an interception late and then all of a sudden they go on two minute drill these score the two quick touchdowns and they ended up winning twenty eight to twenty four and a game by the way Auburn had a really difficult time running the football against Texas saying him and that's why lie there only able to get fourteen points on the board going midway through the fourth quarter and that's the number one concern for the sovereign coaching staff right now if they have similar running struggles against the Tigers are going to lose on the road but Auburn's never lost. Am Are we gonNA start seeing a new trend where we're the home team. Finally starts winning this after last season who does but as I said the Tigers have got to run the ball in last season they struggle they do it against CNN and am right now. Shutting down the run against their previous three opponents including clemson how has bone Knicks look since he won the game game against Oregon. He was a little shaky I fought in the Tulane game miss some wide open throws and then against kids state this past week much better twelve of sixteen but there was one series one possession where they got inside the red zone he had to misfires one of which was to a wide open receiver in the end zone and he just overthrew him by about fifty feet and he was getting pressure from the right side and he just didn't set his feet beat. These are things that you never seen him do in high school when he was being pressured and I think that's just coming along and growing in the system. It's almost like oh wow and he throws there and that's what he overreacts. He puts too much air under the ball. He's gotTa calm down a little bit. You can't get too excited when he sees those open place out there on the field otherwise graves twelve sixteen passing the big development though Paul for for me and what I've been seeing as that he's running the ball a little bit more they didn't do against Kent State but they ran some of the place that you're probably GonNa see this weekend. Get saying in a lot of zone read stuff were Knicks keeps the ball. He had two carries start the game back the back and I think it went from seventeen yards and eighteen yards. I think you're going to see is a bone knicks. Who's maybe running the ball upwards to ten times a game in the zone reed and they're hoping that's what Kinda gets. This running game sparked a little bit at Texas saying him Okay Okay Brandon. We talked to you before the season. I'm trying to remember. Where did you have Auburn finishing. Were you on the upside. I think I was about eight wins. Maybe nine depending if they get a good break you know I'm still in that area right now if they beat Texas say now I'm going to be leaning toward award nine because as I said earlier Florida looks beatable at this point and if they can go into the new Amen Corner with with Georgia in Alabama and only had one loss that sets up pretty well for them to potentially make a run and challenge for an SEC championship right now I know listen early in the season but at Alabama's defense worries me a little bit as far as for for the tide it makes me wonder if they might drop a game here during the SEC season then listen at the Iron Bowl at the end of the season you know Auburn was so hot at the end of two thousand thousand seventeen at home and those two games Georgia Alabama home you just never know but that's why this this weekend so important if Auburn beat saying him I think they've they've got a pretty good pass to potentially go into that file months of the season with only one loss. I think you're right. brandon great to have you on We'll see what happens on Saturday. Kyle field hope see out there. Thanks for being a part of the program. I think you Paul appreciate anything stuff rented Marcello on the upside outside of the Auburn Tigers. We'll take a break the Georgia Notre Dame game is around the corner on this show it Saturday night. We all know that we'll get more phone calls before. Are We talk- Notre Dame Georgia from you after this. You're listening to the Paul Finebaum show podcast. I can't believe it that Gerald presenting the quarterly budget report with finger puppets look here comes a one point seven percent decrease Jason Fitz overhead. Hello everybody no. I can't believe how easy it was to save hundreds of dollars on car insurance GEICO. You Dope projected acted increase in organic two-three revenue believe at Geico could save you fifteen percent or more on car insurance. Welcome back. Glad glad you're with us and we're taking your phone calls at eight. Five five two four to seven to eight five Chris is in Louisiana. Hello Chris. Thank you Chris you. There had yeah I'm here. I can thank you for taking my call. Thank you haven't been listening as faithfully are watching this faithfully I used to but I was just curious as a friend from Texas does he still call in the red has called in a couple of months. Fred was always a great caller to this show. I hope he's Okay He. He was really a fantastic caller right. you know just curious about him. Okay well. I was GONNA make a few comments about Lsu. Maybe ask you a question I point here is you know. LSU Who has went from being extremely hard to watch offensively to being very exciting to watch now has a die hard LSU fan. Do you think that I can have one hundred percent confidence that we will not ever go back to that antiquated terrible offense that we used to have. I think it owes. Yourann is smart enough to know what not to do. He watched less miles get fired because trusted that and he was stubborn early on remember his first year second year maybe the first full year he he brought in the hotshot coordinator and then immediately deep six that idea right yeah. I mean the decision to get rid of Mack Canada and to go with Im's Zinger is looking pretty smart right. Now I mean there was a lot of question marks about that decision but I tell what he did he he knew what he was comfortable with and he knew what he wasn't comfortable with and that Canada was not a good fit for him so so he brings ends in an end springer had limitations we knew that going in but at least he was a good bridge to where we are now right. Yes I agree the other question and I have for you is you know watching these. Lsu Alabama Games through the years okay the last time that I seen I've only seen saving. I think he's the greatest of only seen him get out coached a few times uh-huh so last year NASA championship game. He looked like he got out coast. Look headlights very rarely. Have I seen him. Look like that. One other time I seen gene saving get out coached unbelievably enough. It was by less miles and that was in the ninety six games back to kick that member that game the game of the century they they call it but I would agree with you on that but Alabama I've never seen Alabama under under saving play that tight and and I think the people have to remember that that game the build up for that game was one versus two game went on for six weeks and I think it finally got to them because you you saw when they weren't under that much pressure in the national title game in Field Goal kicking was was costly but but but in the fourth quarter less miles had a pretty good the strategy and it worked right okay so I'm glad you mentioned the word tight. 'cause that's what. I want to bring up here every since then. LSU has been super super tight in Alabama has been super loops and last year and I'm not crazy enough to get caught up in this hype and all that stuff. I don't get my hopes up anymore. I don't in hopes of right now. I feel better about it than having several years but I'm not crazy okay so what I've seen him last year is I was hoping to have a bad game because because all quarterbacks eventually have a bad game he didn't that night and our quarterback had a bad game and I love borough. I think it's awesome but every now and then he will get a little bit tight and hold the ball to who long and I'm wondering is. Lsu is going to be able to overcome psychological advantage that Alabama has. That's a big factor in this game. It's a good question of because I think some of these games have been lost before they begin and it's interesting back when Sabin was playing less miles every year as crazy as it sounds Alabama's team who were always uptight they game drove Nick Sabin Crazy Roese that has not been the case under oath Iran but I I don't think I don't think there's an easy way to call that game right now Chris because I am I have so many question in March about Alabama I have some question marks about Lsu as well especially defensively but I I do feel. Dave rant can can clean that up as the season whereas whereas all great to have you on Larry. Lot of people are counting Alabama out already. I guess you've heard that Oh yeah oh yeah. Who was that Guy Dr Osorio. Oh my God psychological yeah brother when I'd ask kicking going on ain't nothing stock and but the burn football check out Jack Just David Guy you're up. I'll check him out. Are you kidding me all all fan now. You're not shut your mouth but you're not Alabama Fan. You come up their hair fiber clemson George Obama hello yeah we ain't run the bio on yeah. We give up awesome sex but we're taking what they give us Jack. We're working on that offense blind David and if you come up on my doorstep the National Championship game was Clemson and Bama and you had all your book by the time our run your ass off now. Get outta here here. You're not just like you pick Georgia and Clemson Obama file. You're we're not. We're not sure what you said but thank you for the call always. Larry we will talk about Notre Dame in Georgia and the final final two hours Ursa in the next hour and your phone calls as well at eight five five two four to seven to eight five.

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'Valentine's Views' podcast: Daniel Jones' readiness, and other thoughts

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'Valentine's Views' podcast: Daniel Jones' readiness, and other thoughts

"Logan, giants fans. Welcome to a new edition of the Valentine's views podcast here on big blue view radio part of the SP nation family of podcasts. As always, I'm your host at Valentine of big blue view, and today's show is going to be sort of a high podge of variety of topics. No guest for you guys today. So it's just me, and we'll be talking about some impressions from the recently completed rookie mini camp will be talking about some of the things that came out of the media availability from coordinators, and assistant coaches that the giants held on Wednesday. So just a sort of variety of of topics that I wanted to touch on as we begin to roll into the real part of the. The deeper part of the off season here. The giants do have OTA's coming up. Del have a mandatory mini camp. But we are pretty much, you know, into the the deep part of the off season we've gone through the roster building season as Dave Gettleman calls it with you know, with the majority of free agency with the NFL draft. So were into that sort of period where we're just sort of marking time waiting for training camp. You know, taking whatever bits of news and information that that come along that we can to what to continue the discussion about your New York Giants. So let's let's get to a few topics that that came out of the media session that the giants held on Wednesday, the the most notable topic. Of course, the the the biggest quote, unquote news if you want. To call it that was offensive coordinator slash quarterbacks. Coach Mike Shula saying that first round pick. Daniel Jones, the quarterback out of Duke that that he thought that it was his personal opinion that if he had to that he thought Jones would be capable of starting you know, week one of the two thousand nineteen NFL season. Now, look, let's not start a quarterback controversy here that's going to be alive manning, and it should be alive. Manning, the, you know, the plan for the giants is to allow Jones to learn from ally to develop to gain understanding of what it is to be an NFL quarterback. You know, before they turn the before they turned the franchise if you will over to the young man, and that's that's the plan. And that's you know, the way that that we hope things will unfold. Obviously the longer it takes, you know, for the giants to get Daniel Jones into the lineup that probably means the giants are doing better. That means Eli manning is playing well that means the giants are winning football games. So the longer it is before we see Daniel Jones starting games, you know, especially in the two thousand in nineteen season. You know, the the better it's going to be the better it the better. It means that the football team is doing, you know, as for as for what Shula said, look you. Maybe he should have said it, maybe he should've talked around that topic a little bit. I don't know. You know, it was he said, it was his personal opinion. But look, you know, this is the way that the giants should feel about the sixth overall pick in the draft. This is the way they should feel about a guy that that they are willing to put the future to put the future of the Franch. Chai's, you know, on his back or in his hands. You know? However, you want to want to to put that they should feel like he would be ready to play, you know, quickly. So you know, so that shouldn't be any sort of a big surprise what the giants don't want is any sort of quarterback controversy. I'm sure that what's going to happen here. We all know that what's going to happen. Here is that there will be calls for Jones to play as soon as the giants lose a couple of games as soon as Eli manning plays a bed game as soon as it looks like the season, you know, is going to go south. If that's what happens, we know. That's going to happen. And you know, it's just it's part of the deal. It's part of the drill. The giants. No, it's going to happen ally. Manning knows it's going to happen. And we just go forward. You know, eventually this team will be in the hands of. Daniel Jones if things go well for the giants though that won't be what happens in two thousand in nineteen James Becher giants defensive coordinator also spoke to media on Wednesday. One of the interesting things, you know, that Becher was asked was you know, it was you know, his reaction to not getting Josh Allen or not getting any player. It all of her was the other name that he mentioned at number six overall in his reaction. Basically was you know, this is a team he didn't expect, you know, from the meetings that the giants had he didn't expect to get a player at six, you know, that was a defensive player, you know, he knew where things were and you know, he said if you're going to preach team, you have to actually, you know, be a team guy. And you know, he was perfect. Tely happy with with what the giants did, you know because it will make them better in the long run. Or at least that's what they hope is that it will make them better in the long run bet your could take some solace. Of course, in the fact that the giants did get to first round defense of players in the mammoth defensive tackle, Dexter Lawrence. And in cornerback de'andre Baker who Dave Gettleman traded up to get at the end of the first round. You know, bet your has a unique opportunity here. He has a group of of players he has a young athletic on proven defense for the most part. And as he said the other day, he said, you know, a lot of these guys, you know, big name guys like that. The giants traded like Olivia Vernon or let go like Landon Collins. You know, these guys didn't. Have a resume in the NFL until they went out and built one. And he said, this is where most of the players on this defense are currently there at that point where they have to build their resumes. He pointed to one guy who has a bit of a resume Marcus golden who had twelve and a half sacks playing for Becher in Arizona in two thousand sixteen has had a couple of injury plagued years. And you know, he pointed out that golden is a guy that's a proven pass rusher that defenses had to plan for when he was at his best Mike concern with depending on that kind of production from golden to be honest with you is that he doesn't have Chandler Jones playing on the other side. He doesn't have that proven top notch pass rusher on the other side so to to depend on golden to produce twelve thirteen sex might be asking. A bit much. You know, we'll see what the giants can do with golden with Lorenzo Carter, you know, with Dexter Lawrence. They hope pushing the pocket in the middle BJ hill had five and a half sacks a year ago as a rookie. We'll see if the giants, you know can produce pass rush as a eunuch oceans, Zimin, est. The third round pick will be part of part of that question as well. And we'll see how that goes. You know, I think bet your said that he hopes his defense will be an aggressive attacking defense. And that is you know, that's a hallmark of of Bechers. Good defenses in Arizona will see you know, how many resumes actually get built in whether he's able to to put this group together. You might think my thinking on the giants defense is with all of the corners that they drafted including Sam Bill in the supplemental draft some of the young. Defensive lineman Nick day have young safety Gibril peppers. If this reconstruction of the giants defense works if they can put this group together in if these guys are what they think they are. This could be a good giants defense for a number of years. Of course, if some of these players fall short of expectations aren't able to produce to the levels that the giants think that they can eventually, you know, then the giants have a problem on defense. But you know, we'll see how it unfolds. The giants weren't simply weren't good enough on defense a year ago had to make some changes they've done. So they've gone, you know, with a young unproven group of players, and we'll see how that works out much of the much of the season is writing, of course, Annette group, you know, being successful and. Just we'll have to wait and see giants fans. Let's take a quick break for word from our sponsors. We'll come back. 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We're back here on the Valentine's views podcast part of the SP nation family of podcasts. And I'm your host at Valentine. We're here talking giants. And I wanted to get to a few of the other things that were said on Wednesday. When giants assistant coaches were available to the media. One of the the interesting conversations was with offensive line coach hell hunter. And hunter was of course, asked quite a few questions about the right tackle position. Which is the one position that appears to continue to be influx along that offensive line. Hunter said that that incumbent Chad Wheeler as things stand today. You know, enters all of the OT as in in the you know, this part of the of the off season as the starting right? Tackle George Asaf. Oh, aja the seventh round pick hunter said will enter all of those workouts as the number two guy at right tackle hunter was pressed about the idea that the giants might add a player in free agency. And said he didn't know what was going to happen there the reality. There is I still anticipate that the giants will sign you know, former Carolina Panthers and Minnesota Vikings offensive lineman. Mike remers, and that remers will be the right tackle for the giants this upcoming season in remers to the giants. Just makes too much sense. Because he's a guy that that Dave Gettleman is familiar with guy that Gettleman? Brought to the Carolina Panthers. I think back in two thousand fourteen win remers was still a young more or less unproven player. He's a guy who played for Pat Shurmur in Minnesota when Shurmur was the offensive coordinator there. So the giants know what they're getting in remers. He's not a great player, but he would be a solid short term option for the giants who would improve their situation. Give them a chance to develop a SAFA Gye or give them a year to to get into the two thousand twenty draft class know and find a right tackle that they wanted to to select you know, to try and solidify that position long term. So I still think that that remers, you know, who had what has been termed a minor off season back surgery. We know, you know, no, no, surgeries minor. When it happens to you. And back surgery is is still back surgery. I've had that myself. I know what that deal is. You know, it's never. The recovery is is never easy. So I think that what's going to happen with remers is that we're waiting. We're in that sort of waiting game where once he can pass a physical. I do believe he will sign with the giants GM. Dave Gettleman said that that the giants remain in contact with remers and they do plan on bringing him in. Again. I do believe that will happen. Once remers has completed enough rehab that he can pass a an NFL physical. And and then we will see remers in a giants uniform. Couple of other thoughts giants fans this week. The giants signed former Dallas Cowboys running back rod Smith. You know, interestingly, I had been told her I had I had heard, you know, prior to the draft that the giants were in the market. For a backup running back for sequential Barclay. There was some thought that perhaps they would use a late round pick on a running back. They obviously didn't do that. They chose to to spend most of their draft capital to rebuild their defense. Which obviously was justifiable. Rod Smith was signed Robert Martin was waived Smith is a big back who didn't do a whole lot for the Cowboys best game of his career. I think was against the giants in two thousand seventeen they'll put him in competition with Wayne Goeman, you know, for the backup running back spot behind Barkley, obviously also another name to to consider is Paul Perkins. Perkins is a guy that that is easy to forget about spent all of last year on I r. Was a flop in two thousand seventeen when the giants tried to make him. The starting running back. But did show some ability some flashes of playmaking in two thousand sixteen toward the tail end of that season as a rookie. See you wonder how Perkins plays into this whole situation. Perhaps it is Perkins that winds up as the primary backup for sequential Barkley. He is a guy who has some breakaway ability. He is a guy who can catch passes out of the backfield. And you know, Pat Shurmur is a guy who likes backs who can do multiple things who aren't just runners who can be weapons in the passing game. So we'll see but that competition for for whatever. Snaps are available behind sa- Kwan Barkley is going to be an interesting one as the summer plays out. Finally giants fans wanted to talk a little bit about. Some of the undrafted free agents that the giants have signed. And you know, these guys a lot of these guys come with interesting stories interesting opportunities, and we know, you know, that each year not maybe these free agents don't all turn into you know, Victor Cruz and have that level of NFL success. But each and every year a few of these undrafted free agents wind up making the roster wind up making an impact Chad Wheeler, you know, at right tackle is one who was an undrafted free agent a couple of years ago and has started a number of games for the giants over the last two years Tae Davis at linebacker is a guy that was owned drafted. You know in has made a bit of an impact last year as a linebacker grant Haley as a slot cornerback was another one. So you know, these guys that have opportunities. Some of them will take advantage of them and wind up making the roster or at least making the practice squad. And having an opportunity to be added to the roster throughout the season. One of the really intriguing names is Reggie White. The wide receiver out of Monmouth who set records for catches and reception yards at Monmouth, it's a place that's produced a couple of of NFL in a wide receivers most notably the name. I can think of is is Chris HOGAN. So, you know, white is a name to watch another guy who got a lot of attention during the rookie minicamp was Eric Dungy. The former quarterback at Syracuse Dungy was at quarterback during the rookie mini camp. But the giants also list him as a tight end. And you know, the comparison has been made to taste. M hill the the quarterback for the New Orleans Saints who basically is used there as an athlete. He's used you know in a her in a variety of roles on the offense on special teams. So we will see if Eric Dungy can develop into that kind of a player, but he'll he'll be an interesting story to watch as the off season as you know, training camp and all of that unfolds. Another really interesting story is Florida state offensive guard Austin droops, Ma I believe is how you pronounce the less. Name droops is a guy that never played college football played high school football was a sought after offensive tackle chose to be a shot put in discus thrower at Florida state. So, you know, his his collar. Career is now over and he's decided to give football shot. The giants had him at rookie minicamp decided that they saw enough athleticism enough potential that they wanted to see a little bit more. So he's on the ninety man roster. You know, probably a guy that if anything would have a shot at making the practice squad. But his progress his development his story is going to be an interesting one to to watch as it on folds. Alright giants fans that is the show for today. Thank you for listening as always, please. Remember to subscribe to big movie radio on all of your favorite podcast applications? Thank you very much. And we'll talk to you soon. Bye bye. 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'Valentine's Views' podcast: Bears-Giants preview

Big Blue View

18:08 min | 1 year ago

'Valentine's Views' podcast: Bears-Giants preview

"This is Sean Ramos Firm. I'm the host of Oxidative News. podcast today explained you know late September. We've done probably close to a dozen shows on this impeachment inquiry from the sort of early rumors of a whistleblower complaint too Nancy Pelosi launching the formal impeachment inquiry to the whistleblower. Complaint coming out the so-called transcript coming out to the Republican counter narrative to the White House stone. We've done it. All all felt like it was leading up to this moment of have televised impeachment hearings and the event of that event was the testimony of Gordon Sunland and we wanted to make sure we've made an episode that properly showcased and explained the significance the historic significance of that testimony. And we did it. We want you to hear it. It's available in our feeds right now. Today explained episode is titled Impeachment TV. Mr Sunland goes to Washington. And it's a must-listen. I wouldn't say so if it weren't go. Check it out and enjoy thanks Giants fans welcome to a special weekend edition of Valentine's nineties. PODCAST here on big radio part of the SP nation family of podcast. I'm your host. Ed Valentine we've had so much good content tint here on big blue radio. Recently I had as guests on my show of had former Minnesota Vikings general manager Jeff if diamond had former New York giant place kicker Lawrence Tines quarterback Guru Tony Resio p. over on the Khorasan. Enjo show we've had been so lack of the draft network in Emory Hunt of football game plan as Chris Fleming Joe Daily owned begin to get you guys ready for the twenty twenty. NFL draft so that to be honest is why we're actually bringing you a uh-huh Weekend Edition we've had so many good guests and so much going on that Here on Valentine's views podcast. We really haven't had opportunity to fully previews Sunday's giants bears game and to do that. I'm going to To bring in Gene Special Guest Lester Wilt Fong who writes for SB. Nations bears website. Windy City gridiron. Let's get right to the interview that I did with Lester. And after that you'll hear a quick break for a word from our sponsors and then you'll hear a couple beloved of clips from Thursday press conferences from offensive coordinator Mike Shula and defense coordinator. James Becher your hope you enjoy giants fans I'm joined now by Lester wilpon of SP nations Chicago bears website. Windy City gridiron. As has we continue to get you guys. Ready for Sunday's giants bears game. Lester thank you very much for coming on for a few minutes on how you doing today. Oh no I'm good. I'm good listen. You know neither one of our teams has has met expectations this year. You know it's probably a little bit less surprising for the giants to be struggling than than it is for the bears to be struggling at this point when I think when you and I talked in the summer we talked about the bears as a as a super bowl contender. And that was your expectation that they'd be in that mix and they're four and six right now and probably not making the playoffs. I mean how disappointed are you and how oh disappointed fans at this point. Yeah I mean it's one of those situations where you know coming off. The twelve enforced season last year. You know the the playoff game was. It wasn't with a tough old swallow Lilo but we expected that that that would be something that would drive. This team. Forward was the defense had pro bowlers and all pros at each level. They're young and ascending sending unit still even though they were one of the best in the league last year. And then that offense you know. Even though they were kind of a middle of the pack they showed enough flashes and they had enough young talent. Were you figured this group will take another step in second year of the Matt Nagy System and that hasn't happened. I mean the offense has regressed to the point where it's affecting the entire team team. You know the defense is on the field. Too much. Defense has to play more more close to the vest there. They can't they can't take any chances no they. They never get a chance to have a lead so they're always planning from behind and offenses regression has really hurt this entire team and obviously a lot of that regression. Of course you know centers around the quarterback centers around Mitchell trubisky. And I guess what I need to ask you and I think I already know the answer to. This is obviously trubisky in his third year. I think we know that he's not going to be. You ever really probably be among on the top top tier of quarterbacks in the League at this point is there a way forward beyond this year for the bears with trubisky or four or did they simply need to go out and find someone else before their window closes. I think which Bisky is. I mean. There's chance for him to come back from this few and far between with players in the NFL player struggled early in his career than they found some life later but usually it happens on another team. So whichever Richard One more year on the contract so he'll probably be in Chicago again next year. But you know you just cannot go into a season with with the defense as good as this. One is in Tuscon young skill players on offense with a quarterback that can't make the simple plate so he's going to have the rest of the season to try and get things figured out if you kiss. He has a miraculous comeback season. Here maybe they roll with a lesser veteran. But if you keep playing like as playing now they have to get a veteran that can come in and be a starter next season whether that's a trade for Cam Newton. That's a guy in FRAC- like Marcus Mariota or Ryan Tannehill again. These aren't great names here but the way the bears offense is going. Now it'll be an upgrade over Mitch. Trubisky let me ask you this. You have trubisky. Giants have their own young quarterback obviously sleep first round pick in Daniel Jones. Giving your choice between the two of those guys right now. Which one would you take right? Now it's Jones but I I will say that you know it's still early in Jones's career and at that point you know last year you know what I said about Trubisky when people are asking me as a guy and then I'd say you know it's still too early to tell you know you really don't know about a young quarterback you know until he gets a few years down the road so this is citrus. He's third year now. We're kind of seen the regression could bounce back that you can't but with Jones. He's had flashes he. He looks to be able to read a defence a little better that in his early stages of his career her then trubisky can right now in your three so so the easy answer is jaws. But you know. I'm not ready to say he's going to be the savior of the giants franchise. He's glad I guess you know my personal take on that is I think I would take Jones simply because we know less about we. We know less about him at this point. We know a little bit less about his weaknesses as far as what he's going to be. I think he's still a little bit more of an unknown so I might take the upside that sets the hope the giants fans every now is the young quarterback that's sending and that hope is pretty much out the window for the most part first Chicago. So what about what about Matt Nagy. I mean you know. Obviously last year you know everybody he thought he was wonderful and obviously darts get fired at coaches when when when things don't go well I mean how much of of what's going on with Chicago this year could could you pin maybe analogy on the job. He's done yeah I mean. He deserves a big person to blame. As wow I mean. Last year he made a lot of a lot of good decisions. This season you know. He has a struggling offense and he's not willing to do what it takes to fix it. The good example that we saw in the game with the Rams against the bears coach. Sean McVeigh He. Totally changed his offense of system. He does not want to run the bollock. He was doing in that game but he knew what. The struggling offense struggled quarterback he had to make some changes in order to win that Cement Matt Nagy has not shown a willingness. Do this season. The bears have had success running out of the I formation. And that's something that the negatives really want to do. So it's like he's trying to force feed his version of his offense on his team and they're not the X.. Cute it oh sadly lester. That sounds all too familiar with that with a bunch of young coaches and unfortunately personally if that young coach can't learn how to stop being so stubborn and be more flexible than they. They're not going to be a coach much longer. And that's the situation on agreements. Kogyo Matt Nagy has to find a way aid to get out of his own stubborn head in do what it takes to win. And then at some point he make it the players in place where you run what he wants his vision but until that time in your players can do you know Lester. It happens with older veterans. Second time head coaches to it did I did. I just say something about Pat Shurmur. Maybe I mean it's it's one of those things that happens in. The success coaches can adapt and the guys that candidate you know they. They may get a GIG here in there but they're not going to have that locker of success at a guy like Like like Bill Belichick does because he adapts his scheming his offense pretty much every year here from a pretty much week-to-week basis do what it takes to win. It's an amazing thing lester and it's an amazing thing that that you know. I always find when you listen to coaches. You read coaches say coaches love to say it's about the players players and not the plays. Yeah and then when they turn around and call plays or call defensive schemes. You've you've you. You tend to find out that for many of them it actually is about the players are the schemes. I think they have a bit of an ego to to a point and they just got to get out of their own way. I mean like the great coaches through the years have done that. They have that that that Eagle mentality where it's their way or the highway but at some point you know you gotta deal with what you got what you got like. The situation terrific can't make player in the pocket. He just can't do it so you have to roll him out you have to do more and more are running. And he's shown Houston. He's unwilling to do that right now. All right so let's talk a little bit about `bout Sunday in particular if you look at this you from a giant perspective. How would you look at this as if the giants are going to go into Chicago and pull what would be an upset? I think it's a six point. Spread right now and the giants have lost six in a row if they're go into Chicago and break that losing streak. How do you think the game's going to unfold? I think the giants had a good chance to win this game. The teams have done. You know they pass Ross to keep trubisky in the pocket you know. Even though it's risky doesn't want to get outside. He seems to be more content to stay in the pocket whether it's his decision the coats and decision he's been in the pocket more and in a lot of defenses. They have been playing them that way. They've been spying him a little bit. They've they've been doing a contain rush me outside to keep them inside and you WanNa make him be a quarterback in right now. I can't do that so if you guys keep him in the pocket. You make you make decisions. I think that we get a chance S.. Win this game giants fans would giants fans would love to come out of Come out of Chicago with victory. You know it's one of those deals for the giants where they've lost some games this year where you think they should have one But maybe you know maybe go into Chicago and and and get a victory in the rest of a year can be a little bit better. Yeah I mean right now the giants and bears in the same situation. They're both trying to play spoiler. I know the bears have a much playoff teams at the end of the season. And I'm not sure about the giants schedule but when you're a struggling franchise and there's no playoff hopes there you can hope for is the show some improvement towards the end and play spoiler. All Right Lester. Thank you very much for joining me. good luck on Sunday and it looks like I think the way that the way the the NFL schedule might be unfolding. We might be doing this again next season. That's the way it looks both in third place right now so we should do it again. All right thank thank you very much. We'll talk to you. Ever go on all right bye-bye Hey I'm Spencer Hall. I'm Holly Anderson. I'm Ryan Nanny. I'm Jason Kirk and we're the host of the shutdown forecast your avengers of college football podcast. It says in the script to riff on what that means and basically what I mean is. It's all already spoiled every Tuesday. We talk talk about everything from cooking disasters pro wrestling. Too unfashionable pants worn middle school. We also do talk about college football. Every now and then like mascot fights announcers I fleeing the booth early. And unfashionable pants. That coaches where now if you want to take college football exactly as seriously as it should be taken subscribe for free on Apple podcasts. or in your favorite podcast APP. Hello Listener I'm Sean. Rama's firm host of today explained. Vox Daily News. podcast every day Monday through Friday my team and I look at what's happening in the world. We pick one essential news story that defines our moment and ask smart people to help us understand stand in about twenty minutes or less. It's the perfect way to start or end your day subscribed today explained for free on apple podcasts or in your favorite podcast cast APP from stitcher and the VOX media podcast network. This clip is giants offensive coordinator. Mike Shula talking about Chikako Pass rushers Khalil Mack. In Leonard Floyd. Yeah those guys are. They're not the only to pass but yeah we have to mix protections actions have to get the ball out we gotta stay out of the more you know as we say here stay ahead of the chains. Stay on schedule Whether or not it's I have a guy help chip as as we say But you can't do it every point. And they know that they're good at that and they are not just pass. rushers expedience understand when you're trying to keep guys in. It's harder to throw the ball down the field with guys. So it's going to be a combination evolves and we've got to be able to stay out of May make first downs on her. This is defensive coordinator. James Aims Bet. You're talking about what he needs to see for the remainder of the season from struggling first-year cornerback De'andre Baker. No I think they're Very similar to some of our other guys in Cologne players. First second third players that There's some snaps the office that I think he probably would be putting. I want some snaps back for him and he wants back to and I think but the thing that that bake has shown me as he's willing to come to that he comes in a meeting room and if something's wrong he doesn't you know I would worry if we're sitting in the meeting room. He didn't own a mistake. That's what I'm worried but I don't worry because because he owns whatever the correction needs to be whether it's on him and in in Hey it might have been on someone else to you know sometimes when you watch this tape. If you didn't know you might think that this was on player when it might really been on your seat and continuing to work very similar to the rest of young guys in. We're trying to narrow down the things they need to get better at in the immediate future. We're trying ah those things and prioritize and that's how you help young players that's how you help players develop is You know I've said it to everyone here is it's it's very similar to get a prescription. You know you need to do a B and C I handle ABC. Then then we'll square that away way to help you get better there then. We'll work in whatever the next progression become a better player short-term and long-term for football and that's our show for today giants fans. Please remember to subscribe to Biglou Radio on all of your favorite podcast applications. Check out my show here on Valentine's views. Check out the Chris. Joe Show please also remember to To sign up on on our website. 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CaMVP?

High Noon

22:32 min | 2 years ago

CaMVP?

"Hey, Mark false 'cause I feel like wrong things, man. Basically the six game last night, plus fourteen year falls on core. I did just see that in all of the combined minutes that been Simpson. Fall to tweet together they have made to catching shoot jumpers. Wow. To just say man with that plus fourteen last night, maybe full just move to the right while his career. He's good luck shock. I am on Twitter embarrassingly like celebrating at the time of that trade. This is the golden age of the process, and I really need to make it more which desperate should give for your heart to Sam hinkie. Think about how backwards that is first name Cam Newton with the Panthers and Steelers playing tonight on Thursday night football, VO all eyes will be on Cam who has a career high sixty seven percent completion rate and fifteen touchdowns with just four interceptions this season. So why aren't more people properly appreciating the season? Cams have I think part of it might be like the chiefs, right? Like what they are doing is blowing out of the water. Our thoughts on what is possible in some of these numbers? So maybe that is part of his career. He's been a polarizing pig figure for so long that now he looks really good. And really in a steady sorta way that rather than to acknowledge that as a lot of people solution is to simply ignore it. But we're not at a point where he has like bad stretchy games that you're going to ignore that like little verbs has been great this year. We've had stretches in his previous years has not been so great where he's led the league in interceptions. People jump off board with Philip rivers. Because of that we can be seems like even in year. Eight people are still ready like will not just you wait and see. Well, if people have not been paying attention to camp this year, what they're seeing is a guy who's finally having his talents unlocked in a way that all of the doubters. I would be surprised to find north Turner is putting to shame all the things that Mike Shula did as his offense coordinator Cam is a integrated fully into the rushing. Attack which is arguably the best in the league. At least it is by yards per carry second overall in terms of rushing yardage with the second thing is he is mastering Cam Newton is the underneath. He's throwing short interception rate is a career low has sacked rates a career low his rating is a career high because he's not trying to bomb the ball using his strong arm. He's using all of these guys on this team these yards after the catch dooms receivers and running backs like McCaffrey who are perfect that turns out for Cam Newton. And I'll say that was Shula. Did we Cam made a lot of sense at the time because like the idea, but three sub drop Cam Newton up until now it's been a foreign one like that's just not necessarily built for what it is that he does best. Now, I think what's happening here is not just an integrating him. It's how they're doing. It. They go look at the Kerry's numbers that he's head over time. He has been the centerpiece of their running game. And this is the place where I don't think he gets enough credit, and we're watching college football. If a quarterback is the centerpiece of running game and the passing game. Then you get that quarterback credit for being both of those things in the NFL they treated almost like being the center of the running. Tag. It's cheating. Right. Like the real way. Did you play quarterback you out here running these gimmicks in order to make it happen? But this offense has been built around him now for seven years in change. Right. He is the running game. He is the passing game. Now would just all looks a lot better. And we are living in the age of offense of gimmicks. Like, one of the things that north Turner has done is show that gimmick doesn't have to be pejorative. He in that way is kind of like Andy Reed tight election McVeigh all of these things. The offense is doing the jet sweep they're doing the end arounds. They're doing all of these pre snap motion stuff. These read options that it turns out can result in Cam running the Baltimore than he ever has to your point. But it's also designed in such a way that it doesn't feel crazily reckless. The second moment of think about this. Right. We talk about the chiefs. Can you imagine what Andy Reid with do? If Cam Newton was in his offense. Right. Because can't also blew the doors off the idea that if you did not take all these snaps from center, and all these things in college that you could not become a pro quarterback. You haven't heard those questions, really and truly. About a quarterback since Cam because all that stuff about the paradigm change. Do you imagine if Andy Reid and come up with this bright idea, and somehow got his hands on this do statues? Would be built this names the Lakers besides the champion famous about it should be right because he made his debut last night be temples one fourteen one ten channel nine rebounds at twenty three minutes while 'cause temples shoot thirty percent when he was the primary defendant baba big of an impact Chandler really have in LA. The Lakers were celebrating last night. And they're celebrating because they were starving because they were desperate because they were trying to do the small ball thing. They all embrace the flag of small ball basketball, except that it was really hard. When travailed wasn't on the floor. And now you have a team that was last in the league in terms of points allowed. Meaning they're the worst at that. And now they have the guy who was the forerunner to jail McGhee Tyson Chandler is thirty six years old. This is absolutely unavoidably true. But here's the guy who can still certainly shutdown Carl towns, but he also is a guy who can do the tap out rebound thing, which he mastered. It can still run the floor is still a mobile big all of those things still apply to t. Mm that really needed a guy that size and shape. Well, other things jail mcgee's out there you really playing volleyball right? Right. Is that something you're meant to play. But so much even with the warriors. You look in the playoffs at their numbers. They would max out on the death lineup. They'd only run it for like how many minutes again yesterday closed the game. They can't just do that sort of thing all the time. So they were really good when they had a big man out there the legs work and really bad when they didn't have one. So what do you do go? Find a big man they went and got one. And what do you need them to do? Just be big like, what do you do against towns? He big crowds house. Do anything with them? Because if your garden Carl towns, and you just go out there and be big. He doesn't have an answer for that. This game will always matter how people low small ball. They will always be value, dude. Who's out there just to be and you you asked. Well, you know, you just go out and get somebody the way they got Tyson Chandler is funny because James Jones is currently the GM of the sons Tyson Chandler was a son the sons didn't have to buy out Tyson Chandler what they did. So in part because James Jones and LeBron James are buddies. They are friends and. Guess what LeBron James after this game said when I own a team I want James Jones to be my general manager. And that's one of the things about having the guy around whom the NBA universe kind of robot. I love the idea that he's like win. I own a team like we're not invited. If this is win this guys go to work for me James zone. The heat probably never considered the possibility of the James Jones would ever leave us from Miami. He's setting him up for like the Alonzo Mourning track at Saint trag donnas has them saw OBI hit me going. Everything else. Heat lifer. Do pack this stuff up but went to Cleveland LeBron. There reminds you to do this from Miami. Now, I'm I'm go up there with them. Yes. And by the way, speaking of people from LeBron James's past who came back last night Derrick rose bed Derrick rose, if it can show that video real quick Derrick rose seven of nine from three in the closing minutes of this game step back. So he was really young. I did not think that this was part of him. I thought when we talked about rose at all of his complications and celebrated his big fifty point game that that was like, maybe a fluke. He did it again. No, this was like high efficiency stuff because even the fifty point game wasn't really things thirty one shots. Like, it wasn't like it was just getting the most out of every time. He had ball. That wasn't what this was now is also perhaps staggering indictment of the Lakers in their brevity. No. But I mean, I didn't think grows head that game in him. I thought it was more likely a fluke fifty in them then that easy thirty one agreed last name Zion. Williamson the Duke freshman sensation received his highest praise yet when Steve her brought ups I on yesterday. Let's listen. No. But I saw some kid on. To eighty five. One one guy on shot deal. But apparently Mexican. Before I get fine change. Wherever you are. Bo is curb making a reasonable comparison here. Not really I mean, Zay wisit as big was a right and went really good at the jumping arts quite that doesn't take you to being LeBron James, right? And that's not a knock on Zionist Serta. But saying if you just live on TV and you see a really big, dude. I hear Yamen all you'd be like man, dude. I hear like LeBron late with rod is might be a catch all for all men children that are in that place. But we're asking a lot of sign Williams who were not even sure this moment is the best player on his team to make him into the bra. We are asking a ton of Zion by even asking the question. But I do think it's understandable for a guy like Steve Kerr, a talent evaluator someone who knows the game to do the police lineup thing where it's like we're looking for someone who's six seven two six eight who ways to seventy issue as a forty inch vertical who can handle the ball like a point guard sometimes and once you put all of that criteria down. It is. Is LeBron and it is I on, and that's kind of it. Now, there's a ton left Bo in the conversation, of course. But on that basis. That's where he's not unique. He's like LeBron, you know, the differentiating factor. Lebron just about everybody else's the brain, right? Because if we're talking about Zayn Charles Barkley is the one that you go with except for the fact Zion is about two inches taller than Charles Barkley was. But that kind of lettuces young Charles man, that's not out a lot of what a young Charles Barkley was at that time, like those sorts of things kind of make sense that being said, we're the LeBron comparisons gonna fit was I is we have not had anybody come out of high school be this famous in quite a while. Now part of it is just the nature of the times, the Instagram don't get followers millions. So the other move is if you're trying to get more famous going to play for Duke is a great way to do it. It's has been talking to these players basically about hey, we got a brand your brand. Let's put our brands right now Duke is the biggest name, Linda. That way in college basketball. They got the biggest name player, and he is very Jif friendly it has and speaking of size. I just hope that he is something else. A LeBron is very healthy. Yes. A lot of bounce on those joints at a lot of way after the break, by the way, Josiane Marinho. Find out download this show is a podcast for mommy's to checkout line to it gives them figure out who I am. Coming to you from the seaport district appear seventeen brought to you by chase. The little kids. I was playing high school ball against the South Carolina. Brag about him dunk it on them all the time. They think he was just a big old. Bullet those kids man that Kentucky game was the best thing to happen to them. They're like what he did to that. Not just making fun of us in these lowered rims. This is full size. Regulation stuff. First quotes, certainly Harper's bazaar has begun. It's fashionable. It's a Stoorikhel it's elite global certainly, and certainly it isn't perations that deal with great, shoes and great hair. Said Scott forest about Bryce Harper's for agency. Bob Nightingale of you. As today's as Bryce Harper is a lock boat to go to the Phillies should team like the Phillies, throw forty million dollars at all this hair. All right. Four hundred million that seems perhaps a wee bit excessive right? What a thing we're Bryce Harper is. I think that we have been anticipating all the money he would get for so long. And now we're at the point of the question really is not just a is a baseball player where four hundred million dollars. How much money is Bryce Harper actually worth. It is not crazy. The idea that somebody could be it. But at that do coming off a season where he was in the forties in war for batters is data. Do that's worth that money even fan grabs and their projection about how much his stats would be worth moneywise. It's only about thirty eight. It's not at the thirty. I am not going to trust God Boris on this matter either way because Scott Boris is the guy who when Iran was a free agent made that giant binder comparative to Davinci and like. Manjula we compare Johnny Damon to tie Cup and here talking about. It's a store of goats elite global, certainly great shoes, gray hair. He sounds like a guy who plugged in an Instagram captured for his fashion line into Google translate. Like this is nonsensical. And it's over the top. But the thing that he wants to say is no one's deliveries. Harper does except Mike trout kind of all needs to buyers. That's it all he needs to be too. Weak to make it happen. Next quote quietly. At least seventeen have been monitoring Terry Rozier status this season waiting to see at the Celtics could begin to feel trade calls. Rochon variety of athletic, Pablo you convinced the Celtics trae rosier and hang onto kyri. I'm not convinced that that's the right move. And I think the Celtics are not convinced of that either. Because today. Yes, Danny Ainge came out and said, nothing's afoot. Terry Rozier came out and said, I'm happy. But there's a reason why Dany age why trader Danny didn't trade Terry Rozier? You're at the peak of his value in the off season. The guy went through the playoffs both seventeenth six and five that was the time to make something up Terry Rozier, but they did not. And I think the reason is the reason why this is complicated. Kyrie Irving gets hurt a lot. And are we really sure that Terry Rozier and half the value isn't going to provide? What kyri Irvine can have a hold on though. Let's think about this for a second. Let's say the Celtics say we want to trade Terry rosier. If Terry Rozier is the best player in a tray package. What exactly are you getting back? Right. Like like what's coming back into of Terry rosier, nothing that's going to help. You win a championship. This. That's right now. Most of us have looked at this rostrum. We'd seen Terry Rozier as basically a player that is good enough that someone would want to trade for him. But not so good that you would not be willing to part with him. That's the place where he is the Celtics to me Stiller a team they might have too many good players at least for what they ultimately need. Can you turn some of these guys into one player of legitimate superstar caliber, which is the thing that they don't have right now? And that was the best way to get. There is the question, and is Kyrie Irving the guy to keep we don't know. That's that's the inbetween space because everybody knows the Celtics know that you need three superstars generally speaking to contend on this team is Jason Tatum. That guy is Jalen Brown that guys Al Horford that guy because Gordon Hayward doesn't look like that guy and Kyrie Irving, theoretically inherited the title of that guy, but we're just not convinced that he is. In fact, the best player on a championship team. Even if you add in the Brad Stevens, scheming, and look what they need to be over to doing. Say it again, you've been on that whole cross your fingers and hope this pelicans six game street turns into like a sixty game losing streak or whatever it takes for them to finally say fine will listen to trade offers frantically days as David Stern profits. Give you got a surplus of players give up his minium as you got to heal from strength last quote in a beautiful talion city. They insulted me for ninety minutes. I didn't insult them. I just made a little thing. Said man, you manager Josie Marino after celebrating his team's win over you vent in unique fashion bowed, you approve of this behavior for Manu's leader of men as we see in this video calm behavior. We tell them by here. This is the game. That is a goal of face a descendant of the defender. So not exactly the triumph. The less there. He is. He's so stylishly dressed while also drilling everybody, which makes it even more delicious way. I don't feel like Jesus very British or whatever that teams. Choice. Yes. So this dude beat you vent. This used to be the manager at inter rivalry. There's some bad blood here. But we just love this, man. He's I mean one thing about it is he leans in on the idea that he is an tag this like he's made peace with the fact that this is the guy that I am. And in case, he looks familiar to you people who watch television show before you have seen this man before had run it Joe's. Okay. Just a Finnish do know that. What was the result? Three new. They lost that do these men. Three. Also mean, tell them three premise ships. Yes. Nineteen minutes of all night. For me. Them. Respect you better tomorrow all over this right here. I'm like, well, slow pundit what you're trying to say named himself the special one eight and by the way, he is. He's David Stern at the NBA draft at a game in hostile territory. I love this man and more. They've even been booing him. But he took it is that coming up next do fell through the ceiling that waffle house. All right. Let's play it on Thursday night football. I didn't have time for Cam to probably selected get up for his post game Instagram. I just wonder when Cam sees levian do. The upside down tweeting thing is he like, you're biting my Steve's, man. That's kind of what I do. Oh, that's supposed to be upside down. Very very cryptographic. Today's number. Twenty five thousand dollars. How much nuggets center nickel Yokich was fine for an anti gay remarks saying about the bulls Wendell Carter's wingspan quotes. No h word. He's longer than you expect and quote with your reaction to the fine and all this. Hey, man, I think this is the rule too because send out to everybody. All right funny is not a defense. Right. You may have thought in your head that this thing that you said here was funny. Twenty-three your Rhodes often think this stuff like that is funny. Funny will not save you anymore. There was a time where there might have this ain't it and not really with this league. Funny will not save you and neither will intent here because Nikola Yokich is an international player on this program bowl. We celebrate the NBA's great cultural exchange, I don't know what's inside of nickel, yoga brain. But I do know that the effective. This is worth punishing the effect of this for those who are unvested y stuff like this is a problem. It makes people who otherwise want to be part of your community feel. Less like a member of your community. And that is something that the NBA in rhetoric has been about and I'm glad to see them actually implement a punishment on that left. But also, I don't know why people think intent matter so much like when we deal with children, and they do things they don't intend to do something bad. But they do there's still room for punishment within that this idea that if you're an adult you just come in and be like, oh, man. I didn't mean it though. Sometimes you have to send a message along with it to deliver the point that it is serious just something like oh my bay. And if the league wants to do that on fine with this serious enough. In close. I'd like to take a look at PK sue bonds, rather risky, fight evasion strategies. So byles pretty good Etro. And he did some doing Takeda's outta rob one fight him as bond handed it by saying this Gerard. That that that's what he had right there. Right, right. I'm not going to fight you because I ended perhaps in your is weak. But you are terrible in the strategy hinges on the idea that what you've heard me say this. You know, only make you look worse if you actually punch me which can work or could go horribly awry, right because I assume that what happened next with the guy did not go ahead and punch as about in the face. That's my guess, but it is brilliant because hockey has these two parallel tears. It's like you're good at fighting or you're gonna hockey Casey bonds like I'd rather be good at the hockey parts. Yeah. I think you'd get room to do both. But sometimes you just don't wanna fight. I don't wanna fight. I don't either. In closing. I'd like to catch up on some ground. Breaking news out of a waffle house into scumbag. Alabama. I see discount view, let's go out to W H N t for more. It's not too often. You see police? Eleven years. Probably the weirdest thing. On camera. L Sunday morning to you. Him yelling covered insulation, heat then struggles to recover in attempts to make it out the exit give. You may running around in this underwear police saying when the God took his pants off in the bathroom. He left us photo ID in his pocket. Letting them know exactly who he is Twenty-seven-year-old whistling Birmingham is the man in the video. You could tell he was definitely how something, you know. So. Though, this is a I went to go and see waffle house videos on YouTube. 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Chiefs-Patriots Preview and the Teams No One Is Talking About | The Ringer NFL Show (Ep. 320)

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Chiefs-Patriots Preview and the Teams No One Is Talking About | The Ringer NFL Show (Ep. 320)

"Hey, everyone. It's Liz Kelly, and I wanna tell you about the second annual ringer and be palooza. We have going on next week on Tuesday, October sixteenth will be streaming alive, marathon countdown to tip off with Bill Simmons and the ringer MBA crew featuring live podcasts, special guests ringer original shorts and culminating in Sixers Celtics, watch party. You can check it out, live on Tuesday across Oliver social media platforms and don't forget to check out our brand new NBA palooza merch on the ringer dot com. Slash shop. Welcome to the ringer NFL show on the ringer podcast network. I'm Robert Mays joined as always by Kevin Clark, Kevin, how you doing buddy, very good alarmed at how human sound when talking to your dog. I, that's probably fair. I wanted to have her in here because she's been so good today. Didn't wanna put in the crate because she'd be confused, but then she was just knowing on the bone was like, yeah, that's probably not going to be good for podcast audio. So never know. I, it's just one of those things. This is a, this is a gentle time, so. All right, we're gonna do something we, this is a new kind of show format this year. So the first segment we were going to do kind of highlights and everything headlines, excuse me, and sometimes there's aren't, isn't that much news? We've seen it over the course of the week or sometimes sometimes just continuation of news that absolutely four times. So when we don't feel like there's something newsworthy necessarily discussing this segment, we're going to do something. It's more. The big picture, look, kind of, you know, bird's eye view of the league and some stuff that we feel like is we're talking about on a broader level. So what we're going to do with a segment today, we're going to talk about the teams that no one's really talking about right now, but they will be in three weeks because they're kind of lurking. One of these teams shouldn't be lurking. Their record is actually very good, but I feel like they've kind of gone under covered and under chatted about maybe just on this show. So this was an excuse to talk about them. So let's start with that team and that is the three in one Carolina Panthers. I feel like we kind of glossed over them after they beat the giants last week to go three and one, and then they beat the only Bengals loss to the Panthers. And we talked about the Bengals of bunch on Sunday show. So let's get into Carolina a little bit. I guess I'll ask you first Kevin, why don't you think we're as excited about them as we are about other teams? Despite how? Well, they're playing well. I saw Tate Frazier yesterday in the office and he's, he's all in shocking. I, there's a couple of things. Number one, I think that even though I try to treat all winds as wins in the NFL because they think there's obviously a standard of quality, I think needing a record setting record, tying miracle to beat the New York Giants who I don't consider a football team with this point. I do think that that lost them a little bit of style points. But you know, I remember I listen a lot who I've talked to are hugely impressed with what north Turner's John. I think that the Mike Shula offense got a little stale there. So I kind of saw a little bit of a break breakout this year. I don't. You know, I don't put them in the top top tier until like that. But I, I would not have been surprised. They won the NFC south. And so I think in a weird way, they're not exceeding my expectations because I had high expectations and because of that, they don't get my buzz. Is that makes sense. That makes total sense. And I agree with you in a certain way, but I also feel like they are exceeding my expectations and that's because I just didn't have high hopes for what nor Turner was gonna do. Yeah. I mean, I'm sitting there thinking about. All the hires that were made and all these exciting offense of coaches and it's like God really north Turner. And then I went back and watched the giants game again this morning, and I'm sitting there watching that offense and I'm like, man, this is pretty cool. Like there's a lot of stuff happening right now in this scheme that I'm getting excited about Cam Newton, one hundred and thirty six passer rating of play action that's going to fire you. So I went to the play action numbers just because it seemed like they were using it so often. And I feel like I'd seen something about the difference between last year and this year. So there came using play action on twenty eight point one percent of his dropbox, which is the fourth highest rate in the league. And you see that number and you think that makes sense. I mean, they've been such a run heavy team that would be the smart way to approach your offense. If you had Cam Newton and this collection of running backs that you were giving the ball to this often, and then I went back and looked at it with your doing last year. Seventeen point, six, which is twenty fifth in the league. I think Mike, shoot it some cool stuff there during his tenure. That alone is grounds to lose your job. I mean, that's just unacceptable and they use they use under. They go shock on so much, and the efficiency of play action is diminished in shotgun, but I still feel like seventeen point. Six is not enough. So let's look at some of the numbers this year. They using them twenty eight point one percent. So the usage is up Cam Newton's completion percentage with play action is fourteen point, four percent higher than it is without that is number one in the league, he's completing seventy five point, seven percent of his passes with play action. That is third in the league behind only Kirk cousins who will talk about and drew Brees. Good thing. They're using it because it seems to be working at outside of the play action stuff. There are a lot of elements of the scheme where I'm watching it and. I know this is gonna sound a lot, but it reminds me of some of the stuff the Rams are doing really does. They're doing jet motion all the time, and they're using it as a means of misdirection while also going and using play action off of it. The same way the Rams are doing. They're doing some cool stuff with their wide receiver splits in the same way that the Rams do so they can get some extra blockers in the box when they try to run the ball, and there are a lot of elements, their rooms like, okay, I can get into this and obvious when I'm watching it. It's a reminder that you can run the same stuff, but it doesn't look the exact same. And it's just kind of a window into the why the Rams are so good isn't because they run the cool stuff. It's because they run it extremely well, and they've fine tuned. It like the timing on a lot of these Panthers screens is like, Yep, that looks different. So it's a diet version, but it still is something I like to see. And I think that it's given them a huge boost. I say this with all due respect because they're playing so well, but the. Carolina Panthers offense should not be this good. They have a couple of back. They've backup running or linemen in there a couple of them their best and most dynamic receiver is a rookie. I just feel like they should not have one of the five or six most efficient offenses in the league right now and they do. Yeah. Okay. So let's let's unpack that for a second. So I'm of the theory that if you have a really good quarterback there into well this week, so I, I'm sorry about that. They were sixth and last week I'm of the theory that if you have really good quarterback anything on the table, that was our debate last year with the the saints, whether or not they could win the Super Bowl last summer. I said they could because if you have drew Brees basically, anything is possible. I feel like that with the Panthers they have Cam Newton who is as we've seen as dynamic playmaker on his best as anybody in the NFL. And so I kind of think anything was possible from that team this year. I think Christian McCaffrey is really good. He's leading the NFL and yards from scrimmage per game this year. I think that north Turner. I understand that north has gotten stale in some spots, but you know, first of all, Norv Turner is twenty five years ago, why? Sean McVay as far as innovative, innovative maestro of dominant team. And I, there were a couple of people in this actually the spread offense community who were talking about a couple of weeks ago and talked to him for a story about how impressed they wore with north and his ability to build an offense around Cam Newton because only one guy is done and that was Mike Shula the way Mike Shula built that offense was around Cam Newton, and there were a lot of Auburn concepts. And what I'm interested in now is to see north Turner come in with fresh eyes and build a new offense round him and so far it's been a pretty good situation. I think that Cam Newton at his best. I mean people on the MVP for God's sakes. They almost all they came within a couple of bad quarters from winning the Super Bowl. And so I understand that team was stacked in this team has not. But I just feel like there's only a couple of things you need to do to get back to that spot. I, I agree with you in that way, but I still just feel like there's so many missing pieces in with this. Offense could be they are not loaded to any stretch of the imagination, and I'm impressed. That's all I'll say. I would love to know, and this is something we'll never truly understand without being there. What do you think the exchange of information was like for this offense to be created? Because when you're looking at Norv Turner's staff, it's not as if there's all these young guns on their like zoo. That's really it. It's got, and then they have one quality control coach. That's all. And the quality control coach came from Michigan who doesn't exactly run Ohio state's offense when it comes to college schemes and everything else. So I'm just fascinated how this came about because I'm impressed by it and it's doing very well. Yeah, yeah. So the one thing I'll say is one of the things I've been sort of sort of obsessed with is how teams use the middle of the field. And I o. Early and Cam Newton's career. One of the most dominant routes he had which is getting and guide deep in the middle of the field. They actually didn't use it enough, and I think the there was enjoyment. Ted. I mean, we'll Greg Olsen. I mean, he, he used criminals. It's not playing and they're doing fine. No, I know, but it's historic forgot about him. Historically guys like Gannon Olsen they they were just those deep threats right now. He averages nine point three yards per catch of the middle of field. That's the best that's the best of any spot on the field for him, and they've only done it fourteen times and I think that's a little bit of a disappointment on my end to throwing outside the numbers. And one of the big things about twenty eighteen is twenty seventeen and twenty sixteen is you don't need to throw outside the numbers anymore. And so I if I know north, that's north thing, sort of air coryell deep ball stuff. But I feel like you can take some more easy throws over the middle of the field and that would improve the offense just a little bit. Here's a counterpoint. It's going back and watching that game. Again today I the plays end up there, but it's not as if they're vertical routes up the sideline that are only using that area. The field, there was a particular plan picking absolutely. Brilliant where he moved seizure Anderson into the backfield in there in pistol where McCaffrey's behind Newton and CJ was on the right, and it's a play action through where McCaffrey leaks out to say five yards to the to the sideline and CJ runs to the flat. So it's a little kind of a flood concept to the right side receive j hold the cover to corner, and then they had DJ more coming back behind them. So cameras putting that ball to the sideline because that's the open area the field. But in reality, that's somewhat a middle of the field throw because you're manipulating linebackers into opening spaces. So even though it ends up near the sideline, you still have a ton of space to work with. So you're using the middle of the field, the ball just not ending up, right? So if anyone does north Turner's basically made his bones on a on a route concept called nine, eight, nine, which was famously run with the Dallas Cowboys for for a number of years with guys like Michael Irvin and Alvin Harper and essentially to go routes and then at eight route over over the middle of the day, it's so it's. It's go and an eight, and they hate wasn't thrown to a whole. I was basically, Michael Irvin gets open. And what's interesting about this, what you say is that you know so much of what north is done is is based on having really good receivers to execute those sort of things, obviously the quarterback to hit it. But when you don't have those skill guys, it's a really interesting wrinkle. And that's why I think is interesting about what came to be able to do the past couple of weeks. I totally agree. I, let's quickly through these other two teams. So I wanted to talk about the Vikings as well, because I feel like this season there are two quarterbacks, and I've been most impressed with compared to my previous notions of those quarterbacks, and one of them is Kirk cousins, and I know the numbers might not be staggering right now. They might not be super impressive just based overall. But when you consider the infrastructure of that offense right now, they're dead last in the NFL, rushing TV away and it is not close. Fake cannot run the ball. They have zero off. And supply the guys that are playing or hurt and not everyone is playing pedal fine is coming back from an injury rally Rivas clearly banged up. Reshad hill was overmatched as a right tackle, and their interior is a bunch of guys who worn around at the beginning of the season. It's going poorly and they've still been able to stain offense. Thank fourteenth offensive DA right now. And that includes having the worst running game in the NFL and a huge part of that to me has been John d. Filipo in the plays that are being called, and Kirk cousins is ability to get stuff done even when he had no business doing it and having to receivers that can just make ridiculous plays with no business with having no business of those plays being made. I'm thinking of that play against the eagles last week where it was play action cousins is literally backpedaling seven yards deep in the pocket flips at twenty five yards downfield to the-an who makes a diving catch on the sideline. And the reason I like the Vikings should be in this conversation, is that even with how badly is going on offense it, even with how. Pez offensive line is playing and how terrible the running game is. I have faith rate. Now if that kind of three pronged approach of the quarterback, the offense coordinator and they're Sears to actually get some shit done. Yes. So I don't know if you saw this step, but it was an NFL action step floating out there that Kirk cousins is by far the most pressured quarterback in league ninety. One pressures time to throw. Do you know much too much time. Kirk cousins has to throw on the average. I bet it's like two point three seconds. Now it's two point. Six. No one has two point three only because of this lack of eight limited if they were faster pass rushers it would be two point three. Yeah, it's it's pretty much just a limitation limitation? Yeah, it's a limitation on the human body only two point, six seconds that is almost it's basically tied with Andrew life for the worse in league, but Angela has been pressured significantly less than Kirk cousins. Both of those quarterbacks by the way are on pace to break the record for completions in a season. I mean for Minnesota, there's. Throwing every single time I write tweeted this today that it's weird. It's a weird answer, but I think it's true and it's really over the last four seasons. So it's not just this year. Kirk cousins, I think is the best play action passer in the NFL like consistently? It's funny because as far as the difference between play action and not play action, I believe the biggest difference. The NFL is case keenum which is kind of fun and maybe kicked him out. No, I mean, just over the last couple of years, including this year. Yeah, but cousins Kirti one point difference. Eminem talking about just just a passer rating, but so when you talk about a lot of different elements, so like completion percentage, he has the number fourth difference in completion percentage with and without blacks and nine point, seven percent higher with his yards per attempt to this year are ten point, which is seventh in the league, and he has the fifth best play a passer rating with play action. Again, let's consider how bad their offense of lines and how terrible the infrastructure there is. And these numbers are consistent from year to year. He's in the top three, four, even in the top one or two pretty much every single year over the last four seasons consistently. He's been the best one. And when I watched them do it, it just makes total sense that he's really good at it and it's what their offense leans on. I will say, though, what do you think? What do you think Jared goff's yards per attempt is with play action this year, I twelve. It's twelve point. Seven era go, yes. It's absolutely absurd. It's so so fun and guess who runs the most play action in the league by a ton? Is it the Los Angeles Rams thirty? Nine point two percent of their of their drawbacks. The Rams have figured this shit out folks. They really have all right, very quickly. I also want to talk about the Texans because it seemed like the Texans were dead in the water. It really did that there two in three. Now after that win and all right now, remember the first game or two. We're like, how manned Shawn? Watson, looks hurt and houses gonna go, he's still looks hurt. That's fine. Over his last four games sixty eight point, three percent completions one. A one point, four rating, nine point one, five yards per attempt. He'll still throw them to you. He's got one pick and all those games, and that is something that is going to be hard to get rid of when it comes to his core personality, but he's a pretty darn good man. And I still think that there are playoff spots there for the taking. If he. As well. I also think the commonality between the two teams, we just named the Vikings and the Texans. They both have statistically the two best wide receivers in the NFL right now. Yep, weapons dynamic, quarterback and pieces on defense, even if they're not playing up to their potential. I think that is a really good formula. Think about the NFC playoff race right now, man, you have nothing in the wildcard. The Vikings are two, two in one who's gonna scare you in that wild card race. Let's pencil in the saints and the and the Panthers. What's just do it right now. One of them's gonna win. The division one's going to get the first wildcard who's gonna get the second one. I don't have a lot of faith in the Packers right now. And let's say the bears win the division or the Vikings win the division. If they surpassed the bears, maybe it's Chicago. But I think in this equation though, Vikings are in there somewhere. It's no one from the NFC west, and I don't think it's anyone from the NFC self except for the teams we just mentioned. I really think they'll be around at the end. I tend to agree. So let me let me back up and make a gene. Point on this point of the season, we've talked a little bit about how September and October of mattering less and less every year. And what I did is a nice nice little reminder aside from looking up the fact last Sunday that Ben mcadoo wasn't on the hot seat. This time last year I looked up the standings and the power rankings from October tenth last year, and it is very, very funny to see. It was the week that we started collectively to start believing in the eagles. They went four and one. The Packers were up there for a lot of people at a lot of that, obviously, was an injury thing. The the falcons were still being talked about it as an elite team. Nobody nobody believed the Jacksonville, Jaguars referee real. In fact, NFL dot com. Had the bills in front of the Jaguars that point. That's great. And the Rams were we were still in wait and see mode to the point that essentially everybody thought the Seahawks were still the class, the division, and that the Rams were were just kind of a couple of weeks fluke. So I. Kinda feel like, and when we discuss these teams that are three and two or two and three or or whatever. I kind of feel like more and more we know so little this time of year and trust me look at, look in October power rankings from even the last four years. It doesn't make any sense the Vikings may the NFC championship game last year were ranked seventeenth this time last year in an NFL dot com. Power rankings. We just did not understand who was good and who was not. And I think what you have to look at instead of individual results this time of year instead of win loss record instead of big picture stats. I just think you have to figure out who's playing well who has a lot of talent on both sides of the ball who has the fewest holes and project from there. I told you. So when I look at a Minnesota or even a Houston and I, I'm slightly hesitant to buy go and on Houston because of, you know, Bill O'Brien, I don't think he's very coach, but they've got the best receivers to squint football under hop wolf. Pretty good man. And Kia Cousy looks like he can play. They have individual talent on a lot of a lot of places, and I would also put the chargers in that category charters three and two. Right now I try looking when both hundred. Lurking. I'm hesitant to throw the chargers into the playoffs right now, but I feel like at three and two, this might be the kind of thing we're next year at this time. We're doing this podcast and I'm looking at last year's power rankings. I can't believe we were under selling the chargers with three into because I think of there in the playoff hunt, like one hundred percent and at the same time, think about where the charges were after five games. Last year, they were one in four, and they only the play offs. We were talking about them as maybe the most talented team in the AFC by the end of last season. So I'm with you we, I was a lot of where. All right. All right, Twitter, which is fine. What they're like. Like the damn Denver Nuggets of NFL. It's just the only people think they're incredibly talented are all on Twitter. NFL. Twitter, that's fair. All right. Before we move on. Let's take a quick break. Today's show is brought to you by bookie guys. You've heard me talking about this for weeks yet. Some of you are still watching football from the sideline, whether you're an expert or rookie should be betting in my book. If you're the kind of guy that likes bed a little and win a lot. 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Okay, so big game chiefs and patriots this week. I'm excited to see a lot of different things. I'm excited to see Mahomes against spell check. So to see those weapons Bella checks. Big thing is who do you take away? What does he sell out to take away? I'm fascinated by a bunch of different wrinkles. I'm excited to see. Tom Brady tried to put up numbers against a a kency to defense. It actually played pretty well last week, but I want to caution. Here's my take shop of the week. This game doesn't really matter at all. Now there's a lot of instances of Bella check, losing a regular season game coming out back and winning the playoff game. And in fact, it not being real close. And one of the things I think about last year was the chiefs and the patriots played the chiefs absolutely pasted them, and. Bellichik a stole their place, literally stole their spread schemes and got better because of it. The plays. They ran against them and scored touchdowns with just stolen. But also, you know, Belcher it gave Bella check and opportunity to figure some stuff out to basically workshop what is defense look like because his whole thing and we've the best coaches of this era, Pete Carroll's one of them Bill Belichick is one of them. The best coaches of this era figured out how to peak in December January and February, and they don't necessarily care. But I hope and the thing I think about all the time with this is I once watched film with Chris Collins worth for a story I was doing and we were looking at gronk. It was before the Malcolm Butler Super Bowl. We were looking at gronk and he was talking about. Gronk getting a match up with the linebacker or a slow safety or just generally somebody who won't be able to cover him. And he said something about ballot check. I'll never forget which is sometimes bell shack and Brady will not take advantage at stuff because they wanna put stuff on tape to basically confuse opposing defenses and then cash in that matchup when they need to. So they're not just going to take it every time because that would be the obvious thing. They would win more. They'll probably put up more yards. They might score a few more touchdowns, but they're going to be they rather in September, October, early November game. They rather discontinues you on offense and put stuff on tape and still win the game, then just put up fifty points. So I think there are mind games. I think Bella check it when you face Bella shack, it's psychological warfare as much as anything else. And I think that when he goes up against Mahomes, this is not the defense. We're. Gonna see in January against Mahomes and it'll be experimentation. It might go really poorly for the patriots. I don't know. But what I do know is this is a once-off Philip Seymour Hoffman on Broadway. Okay. And he was doing a lot of weird. It was a preview and he's doing a a weird voices. And then we make sense like I was like, what is he doing right now? Why? Why? Why is he doing this weird stuff? It was death of a salesman and he was kinda like figuring it out right. And I read a little bit after that because I was intrigued by kind of his bad acting that he does that stuff to see what you're not supposed to do. He does that stuff to feel like is this okay? No, it's not. Okay. And then he goes back to what he's doing. So he's on basically experimenting in real time because he knows it does matter because it's the previews and that is sort of how I view the patriots is they're just going to throw a bunch of different things that Patrick Mahomes. Some of it will work. Some of won't work, but my guess is it will be a lot more effective. In January, that was the most Kevin Clark segment that has ever existed on a podcast. PS h. just the fact that you told a story about watching film with Chris Collins worth in order to export in order to explain the patriots and then because you don't, you didn't feel like you'd explain them enough. You compare them to seeing Philip Seymour Hoffman on Broadway. I agree with everything you said. But I, that was a twofer and I really appreciated it and I got free tickets. It was really good. I'm jealous. I wish I would have gotten to go. I would big big fan of his. I think he's the best actor of his generation. It's a great comparison. I'm very heavily made it. I have a friend who saw another Philip Seymour Hoffman play and actually met Philip Seymour Hoffman at the box office when he's picking up his ticket and they had like a twenty minute incredible conversation about stagecraft and that's pretty great. All right. My take shop is this. It's not nearly as involved, but I feel like it's starting to become obvious to me. And I think that what the bucks and the Broncos individual decisions, they both made this off season going to doom them for at least several years, and I'm not. This is not a knock on case keenum. It's really not, but I just feel like the choice to forego a quarterback in the top five, we've hammered the giants for it over and over again. But with the fifth overall, pick Josh Rosen was still there. They still could've taken, Josh Rosen, look how well Josh Rosen his plate over the first two weeks. Now, we're going to get to the end of this season Vance. Joseph will likely get fired they. Okay. So keenum a decent amount of money next year. They're probably gonna end up just like maybe with the thirteenth overall, pick which by the way, by the way, everybody lie this time last year in the powering love the Broncos. They were the best team in the NFL through like five weeks. I remember I probably was one of the people who wrote it except the Alex Smith chiefs. So we're gonna best. Llosa's probably gonna get fired. We're going to be sitting here with a believe case keenum still having a huge chunk of guaranteed money on his contract. So he's probably going to be the quarterback there. It's going to be just a blame duck year in every single way they're going to figure out, okay, you know his new coach as ten million in dead cap. They're probably not going to cut him. So he's going to be. The quarterback, they're not going to be a position to draft one. Then keenum's going to be gone after next year. They're going to be sitting here. Wondering, we'll who who's going to be our quarterback, they could've solve this. They could have solved this. You are not a contender. You are not a Bradley Chubb away from winning a Super Bowl. You need a quarterback of the future even if Tina plays this year and they just didn't care about it. And now it's gonna come back to crush them and with the bucks. I think that their decision was not firing, Dirk cutter and not moving on from that coaching staff. Because when I watched this team right now, I love what Todd Mahnken has done. They've turned Ryan Fitzpatrick do a superstar for a quarter of the season. Now you have Jameis Winston coming back. I still feel like the offense is going to be some very good that solid at worst. The offense of personnel on that team is really good. I mean, they're lying has some spots where you know there's something to be desired, but the receivers are excellent. They've dynamic tight end duo. The running game is garbage. But I mean. What are you gonna? Do? I just feel like the passing game personnel there, so so good and it's not gonna matter. Cutter's going to get fired at the end of this year. Most likely when they go five and eleven, and they're going to be sitting there next year with the same guys. Jameis Winston is going to be in his lame duck year. He's gonna play that out. Maybe you bring him back, maybe you don't, but you're starting over the new coach and your defense is rotted from the foundation, and that is maybe it's a Mike Smith problem. Maybe it's one of those things where when we saw Sean McVay come in or guy like Matt Nagy, even and fix a terrible just as bad, it can get as bad as it can get situation. It can happen very quickly, but outside of the front four and maybe the linebackers the personnel they have there is terrible. If this team had moved on from cutter, gotten a new coaching staff with some real coordinators. I mean, I love machen, but I mean on the defensive side of the ball and then drafted Derwin James, seventh overall would could they be next season. I just think he could be something exciting and it's not gonna happen. It is no longer on the table, and I just feel like they're going to be in trouble for a long time because of the choices they made this offseason. Yeah, no, I agree with both those things. I mean, I think with Denver, John Elway shown himself to be kind of ultra competitor to the point of maybe zone detriment. Yeah, and that shows it self in contract negotiations or you know, different stuff like that. Obviously, that's what helped him get paid manning. That's helped him win. Two Super Bowls player. That's helped him in a couple of different things. But the quarterback problem for him is always going to be lingering because it doesn't monkey can evaluate. I really liked case keenum allot. I think he's he and the right system and the right situation Cayenne hopefully agree with it would quarterback, but I'd is one of the things I worry about is, is John Elway gonna be able to step back and say, we need a full scale rebuild or we're gonna keep retooling, and and kind of having a ceiling on this team. It's a little bit lower than in should be. I feel like they're in trouble because I feel like that's always where they're gonna linger. If they don't have elite defensive players and they don't this same team and they're gonna toil in the middle of the result of it because he didn't choose a certain path when it came to not rebuilding, but restructuring your expectations for who you can be. And that's really important when a team is willing to do that, and the fact that they didn't, I feel like it's a real problem. No arguments here. All right. Let's move onto our biggest three games of the week, which ended about chiefs patriots a little bit. What I'll say about this game that I'd like to see is I would really like I know the patriots are gonna slow play it. And as a result, I want to see the chief score fifty points. I wanna see them just dominate this game and gain some sort of mental edge because when you watch the patriots play against the lions, in my opinion, when I watched that game, the difference in that lettuce schism and explosiveness between the patriots defensive players and the lions offense players. Was just so drastic and almost to the point where it might be just a terminal problem for New England in the season, and then consider what the chiefs have in terms of offensive athleticism. It's the most explosive group of skill position. Players I've ever seen. They have an advantage athleticism wise, it every single spot against England, and I just wanna see them take advantage. I just wanna see them say they were gonna come in and say, we are the best team in this conference, and we're going to show you. That's what I'm excited about. So. What do you think Bella check does in in? What's that. What do you think Bella check tries to take away? Tyreek hill. I mean, it's hard to take away tight end because how are you going to take him away? Can you maybe you put a corner on him, but Kelsey, I just don't know if that's the right move against Kelsey. I feel like they've other teams have done that so much against the patriots. Maybe you just double Kelsey on every play. But if you're doing that would are you gonna do tyreek hill because that's the thing with New England, right? If you put two guys on gronk if you have a guy over the top of him at every at every play and you buzz all the time, there's no, there wasn't a vertical element without Josh Gordon there. Did you re three vertical elements on the chiefs? There's just no way you can play that style of defense and survive. Yeah, no, yeah. It's it's going to be again. This first step in this chess match is going to be fascinating to me. I think that there's probably a joke in here and I get all the time anytime any first of all, I don't understand the negative perception here every time we mentioned. Andy Reid on Twitter is a great coach. We get all these absolute morons like, oh yeah, he's got so many rings shut up. I'm I, I don't even pay attention that shit anymore. Shut up your Andy Reid is an amazing coach, and there's this whole narrative of, okay, you know, and Andy Reid is gonna fly a woman, it matters or you know, he's not a January coach or whatever. This is the best shot. Andy Reed's ever gonna have toppling of Brady ballot check team. I totally agree. And I think this is almost like a, it's like a boxing match that you know is going to have a rematch like ineligible. G one, like whatever happens is going to be a rematch and that sort of how I view this is that this is just the first step in a in a, it's a shame they can't play in the Super Bowl. I also would like to see the Rams play in the Super Bowl. So it's not that now Jayme to me. I'm a, I'm over it. I'm putting the Rams just want read Bella check over and over again. You're going to get to see it twice. Probably that's not enough for, you know, just run it back. They should play in the AFC championship game. And then running back again, I would like to see as much rebuilt check as possible, but I'm all set with McVeigh read if that's how the. Super Bowl goes down that works today. McVeigh Bella check. I mean, that works too. I still would like to see the Rams. I think they're the best team, and I think they're the most interesting team. So I'm cool with them playing in the Super Bowl ballot check. First McVay would be amazing. Yes, it would. So trust me, I as much chiefs as much as James patriots is fun. I'm all I'm all set with the Rams being in these. Meanwhile, we're all excited about these Pinto coating matches. We're gonna get Mike Tomlin verse Mike Zimmer. All right. Let's move on to game number two. Yeah. And when I mentioned the two quarterbacks that have been most impressed with compared to my opinion of them coming into the year, and I said, the first was Kirk cousins. The second is Andy, Dalton, Elia. He's played extremely well. I mean that offense has been so good and this may shock you, but guess what happens if you go to the play action numbers and you look at the team using it the second most, he's very good, twenty nine point two percent of their dropbox. Jimmy g. is second, but he's Jimmy Johns done. So it's really any. Dog is number two. Again, this stuff isn't rocket science folks. It works really well when you use it and they've used it extremely well. I was looking at an NFL matchup play that Matt Bowen was breaking down. It was about kind of a concept. They use deep over concept AJ green for a touchdown, and the route was amazing. And the the technique the defensive back was using was wrong. And that's kinda why green was open, but. It was a perfect throat to the off-field shoulder away from the safety and heat has been. It's been making so many of those I'ma his deep ball and his ability to place these balls down the field right now is so impressive, and it's turned their offense into a different sort of animal. I mean, we've seen AJ green since two thousand eleven. Have you ever been more impressed with AJ green, Andy, Dalton connection? I have not because even at twenty fifteen, when that offense was just rolling, the end was everybody it entire. I for it was amazing. And the backs were playing very well together, and that was when they had still had more of a Jones and that group was just so completed dangerous. And now Tyler Boyd is funny extremely well, and I've been super impressed with his development, but I still just think that that connection to green, it's like, all right, this is the green. We could've seen his entire career if his quarterback was playing higher level. Yeah, so I did you see, Carlos Dunlap said I did not see what goes on said, no Carlos Dunlap. Some Katherine Toronto. She does a great job. Good friend of mine, Catherine. Rail on rule changes trying to sack a quarterback like Roba's burger. Anytime you try to tackle a three hundred pound quarterback. It's going to be pretty difficult. Is he. I love the veiled shot. I I don't know. I don't know. I can't tell if it's a veiled shot or he just has tackled Ben Roethlisberger and it's just like this guy is three hundred pounds. If we made this burger by the way his listed weight is two hundred and forty one pounds. If I told you you had to buy one way or the other for your life and Ben Rothlisberger was about to get on the scale. Are you going over under two eighty five. Two eighty five while. Okay, so he's six foot five. Yup. I'm going to say like two seventy. I'm going over to seventy going over to. Are you going over two hundred? Five? I am someone I think to eighty. I think he he'd be over two eighty five. I think that like in in may or April he ever eclipses like to ninety easily. Yeah, I go by them. Yeah, I foot ten and a half. Okay. Okay. And I know what my body composition has looked like when I've way like to twenty. Okay. Sure. And I mean it's not that long ago. So looking at someone who's six foot five. And then looking at Ben Rothlisberger is body composition, which I've noticed it wouldn't surprise me at all. If you eight hundred eighty five pounds. So I just want to tell a quick Carlos Dunlap story because it never told the story before I was in college, and I was covering the national championship between Oklahoma and Florida and the access at those games. Incredible players just stand there and you can ask whatever they want. And so-. Carlos Dunlap had hit Sam. Bradford really hard. I'm was a saccharose just after the play hit or whatever. And he looked. He said something and I went to, Carl is still not up, and I was like, what did you say to Sam Bradford when you hit him? And he said, I said, my name is Carlos Dunlap from Charleston, South Carolina. I've never forgotten that because just specific thing that I'm just like, was he trying to get across I, he just wanted to introduce himself. That's so weird. I don't know what's going on there. It was. I can't help it was genius or just incredibly puzzling, and I actually think that it might have helped because Bradford just like what the hell is going on with that guy. Yeah, it's a weird thing to say. It's like when Andrew luck compliments people when they do you just don't know how to respond to it so it becomes a problem. Yeah. No, I hear that. I, you know, I got that the way I got that story was a total accident. They Andrew luck thing. That's that's another story for different day. So just about this game specifically, I think that one of the elements I'm really interested in is that the Cincinnati defense is not very good. I mean, they've been in a lot of these shootouts the over under for this game is fifty four and a half. Okay. I think it's actually gone down to fifty to nap, but it opened at fifty four and a half, and that should not surprise you because I feel like the Bengals defense really depends on their pass, rush right now. They have a lot of guys that can play up there. You know, Gino is obviously Gino Atkins Lawson is one of my favorite pass rushers and football to watch play and Dunlap is very solid. The steel. There's less pressure than just about any law fits of wine in football. There's such a good pass blocking group. So if you can take away that defensive line, then you're really able to pick apart that secondary. That's a very uneven group of players Bates their first, your safeties played well. And that's kind of why they were allowed to trade a local. But outside of that the corners aren't that great. I mean, William Jackson's. Awesome. But the other guys are like, I don't know. I feel like this could be a game where juju eats so. And then on the other side, I still think that the Bengals even though they're, they're line is better this year in pass protection. It's not that great. And I saw what the Steelers did to Atlanta last week, and I just feel like they could dominate the game. Again. They're really could. Bobby Hart is not a good right tackle, and he's worse than Ryan Schrader by a long shot and the rights and the left side of that defensive line for the Steelers just dominated that game. So I feel like that those tiny advantage compared to the other side of the ball is why the Steelers win this, but I'm still excited about the bangles going forward. Okay. Couple. Things. Number one, William Jackson, I don't know what the match ups are going to be. You know, William Jackson shutout Antonio Brown last year over at least one at the games. He did not do that. Well, in the other game, I don't have the stats in front of me what I know for a fact that he had a more success against into Neo Brown, the vast, vast majority of Cornerbacks. And I had a conversation about the art of defending Antonio Brown with William Jackson, and he actually had some very interesting mildly controversial comments that will appear on our website on Friday, but I just feel like William Jackson is not being talked about enough, and I, I know that again, I think media members saying someone is not being talked about enough is kind of an empty gesture because if we really wanted to, we could just talk about William Jackson every single dot com. Totally fair. But there's still a national conversation this. Yeah, I'm not even I, I probably never even tweeted about William jet. You know what I'm saying? Like I think he's a criminally underrated player, but I'm it's not like I'm outside like, protesting outside. And NFL network and Culver city to to talk about William Jackson more. So I'm not going to say he's not talked about enough, but I will say that he he is criminally underrated. When you think about the top Cornerbacks in the game at this point, I agree. I are third and final game of this weekend that we want to chat about is maybe a weird one, I guess, compared to some of the other ones might be on the schedule. What are the games I am most interested to watch this weekend? Is churches Browns. I just feel like it could be so fun. Yeah, I mean, and it's two of the most visually arresting quarterbacks we have in the NFL right now like who if you can turn away from a Philip rivers game or a Baker Mayfield game at this point, it's because you don't like football and they're playing each other. I totally agree. I think that that element of it is just inherently watchable. I also think that one of the coolest matchups in this game is maybe not one. We would have antipated coming into the season, but the. Excuse me. The chargers have the third best offense in football by behind the planet destroying chiefs in Rams which is not surprising when you consider how well fo- rivers is playing. Let's let's just do this real quick seventy point. One percent completions. One thousand four hundred ninety five yards. Thirteen touchdowns to interceptions eight point six yards per attempt. Philip rivers is thirty six years old. They have been incredible, and then you go to the other side of the ball that they'll be playing against the bears are number one in the league in defense of DNA way. Who do you think is number two? I'm sorry. I've lost my train of thought because I looked up the Cleveland Browns and I'm now inundated with news. Jim Brown is actively in the Oval Office right now. I don't. I don't even want to think about that. I honestly don't. I don't either, but here we are thinking about the Cleveland Browns are number two in defensive. Okay. Last year there run defense was very good this year. They're number two in past defense, and here's how that happens. You have Myles Garrett in his second full season really coming into his own. You've Leary Okeechobee turning into an excellent pass rusher in the middle, and you have Denzel fucking ward. That dude is crazy. He is so so good is incredible athlete. I was so impressed with him. I reward that game against Pittsburgh last week before we, I did my Monday calm the second half of it at the quick version. And I'm like, cut. He's everywhere. He missed a couple of tackles, but I mean, just pass breakups left and right picking off Joe flacco near the goal line. Yeah. I mean, this dude is just must see TV every single week. And I mean, even outside. Of the rivers versus Baker Mayfield stuff, which is fun. You have a really good defense now playing against this group and I'm pumped. I just think it's going to be one of the coolest games that weekend. We were considering doing ravens titans, but the titans are on time out. We're not. We cannot the titans for awhile just to let the listener in on this. I, we've decided we're no longer talking about the titans until they make the Super Bowl. I've been. I've been burned for the last time. This is not happening again. I just every time we get excited about the titans. The score six points. Yeah, they they are on time out on the ringer NFL show for quite a while. All right. It's time for this week's edition of maize, geek sow, and we're gonna do something a little bit different this week. I wanted to talk about David balked Yari because it just feels like he's the best best pass blocking office attack on the league. He's reaching echelon at very few players get to and because Kevin's eyes would glaze over if I talked to him about that, I'm going to bring on Brandon's thorn of the scouting academy and USA football to chat about this because Brandon is one of my favorite observers of offense of line play. He isn't appreciator of David. TR is work, and I felt like he would be able to explain this and speak to this in a way that even I could not. So Brandon, just right off the bat. What in your mind makes David bacteria such a special pass blocker. Yeah. So I think it kind of important to talk about, you know, a little bit who who he is physically, you know, he's kind of undersize guy, you know, totally or. You use a little bit under three hundred pounds at the combine, but he's listed about three ten now, so definitely and underside guy, but he has thirty four charm. So you know, pretty good length criticize definitely a little normal there. And I think that that Lanc just kind of helps essentially, you know what he does so well with his hand usage, but just in terms of being a great pass protector I think you've gotta start with how he comes out of his stand. He's very, very explosive in quick, and that helps him get to his spot which is basically in a position to play to establish an invite out relationship with Russia. And I think you know really what that means is it's the half man relationship. And that's talked about lot off often blind world because it eliminate the to go for the rusher so options as to what you know where he can go. And it really just takes away that insight counter. So from they're the only two options Russia's have is either go down the middle and Borussia or to win the corner and berry few guys when the corner. So primarily the only way to really beat in this to go down the middle and to be like a really great speed, the power guys guys like Everson Griffin, you know, that's always a great battle with him, but so he's so good at getting to that spot and really just taking away the option to the Russia. And then from there, I think really what makes him so special after that is Han usage is just it's nominal the timing and the placement, the accuracy of his hand, the different things that he could do with his hand or just incredible. A lot of the times in invite guys into his chest to let them kind of shoot their hands I and you just comes underneath them and just gets a hold of their frame and it's over. And then this year is something that I've noticed a lot is the way he changes up consent. So it doesn't just come out, you know what that forty five degree angle and get to that spot. But now he's actually, you know, pretending like he's gonna jump set a guy and set aggressively towards them. And then before he makes contact immediately retreat and it kinda just throws throws off the. Timing of the rusher in their foot work, which you know any great pass rusher I think we'll tell you their timing and therefore full work is key, you know, so they can execute their their move. So it really throws him off and he just keeps rushers decimal game and he's just, he's brilliant with what you know he's doing with his sets this year, I think. So he's even gone to another level, you know, as opposed to the last couple of years where he's very good as well. So I think what you just said is very interesting. He keeps Russia's off balance and he keeps Russia's just kind of unsettled. And the fact is he's advert on settled. He's so comfortable at all times because he knows he can get to that spot. His quickness is phenomenal. And when you watch him, that's who I go. You mentioned too, so important and even though he cuts that off with his angles, most of the time in with his just overall quickness when he does have to come back inside, he's so good laterally that guys just can't beat him back there. You when they would with normal rushers. So their plans so author are sabotaged instantly, and that's why for the most. Part, they've had to go to those bullrushes and early in his career, even when he wasn't this nuanced of a player. He still had weaknesses that was still the number one weakness. Even before he had all these things toolbox because he was so undersized. And I wrote about them a couple years ago, the whole line and Bahktiar as I was talking to Josh Sitton about bacteria as a rookie. And he says, I, I don't think he was ever three hundred pounds last year and voluntary responded. I was flirting with it. Me and three hundred. We went on a couple dates, which I thought was hilarious line. But this he's very much over three hundred now and he, you can't do that to him anymore. You just can't do it. And the other thing that you mentioned that I totally agree with and it's fascinating to watch the punch is not often timed correctly the way you would teach it because you would never teach someone to let a defensive lineman, get his hands on you that quickly. But the reason he's able to survive while doing that is because he never. Ever misses. He never misses with his hands and that it seems like such a strange thing to talk about Riley, a punch accuracy is one of the biggest reasons. This guy is the best left tackle in the league, but it really is because so many guys as they shoot those hands, they miss. And even if it's about an inch, they're an inch. They're getting off the side of a shoulder pad. That's how a long are moved, can beat you, but he never misses every single time. It's that exact right spot. And that's why he's able to play these games and do things that aren't necessarily by the book. And that's why he's so damn good. Yeah, that's, that's all said, you know, the the hand placement of his is is really what's so special. And then the timing, like you said, it's not traditional pretty unorthodox because he does like I get into his chest, but I think that that just let's get comfortable that that second, he's so good about coming under me those guys, you know, different rushers arms in just grabbing both handlebars on the inside which you know often the wineman of told. Me that it's really that armpit area where the shoulder pad kind of ends right there. That's those are handle parts for the offensive line and you. You can hold all day as long as you get there, you know. 'cause it's inside the frame. And as long as your body is, you know, in front of the defender and your hands, you're inside the frame. You know you got him and he's so good at getting that position. So you know, I think that was a little bit how you explained that. Awesome brand. That's all the time we got. I, I went any longer. I think that I'd be fired office podcast with me and you will start an offensive line only podcast. It'd just be me and you talking on Twitter, but if you like this conversation, if you off blind play all, please go check out Brandon's Twitter account. It's one of my favorite places to read just great material about in-depth elements of offense of wine and football play period. He's at veteran scout on Twitter. I highly recommend you check them out Brennan. Thank you so much of the time. You and I will continue this off air, I'm sure for like an hour. All right. Thanks, Robert. Thanks buddy. All right. My sneaky truth of the week, the eagles are gonna make the playoffs and any consternation about their offense or defense? Well, valid, doesn't alternately matter because a, they're probably not gonna win the Super Bowl just because of a number of different factors. Number one is they still have a quarterback attorney to health, but be they're going to make the playoffs because you NFC east is a massive tire fire. When I was talking about the teams possibly winning the wildcard earlier, you realize I didn't even bring up the eagles right, give because they're, they're locks to win the NFC east the I didn't even bring them up because only by the end of the year, they had the NFC east locked up. Look at what Washington was against the saints on Monday night. It's not. It's not to say they're the only good team. The only not bad team. Yes. The only not actively bad team in my opinion or not actively average team like Washington yet is Washington average. I think they're actively average. Yes, I. Kind of think it's funny that. The basically the entire passing boom pessimism taken over the entirely. And if you aren't on pace to break some sort of record that's on you, the passing, boom is basically just completely been ignored by the NFC east. Yeah, they have no interest in the NFC. Use the NFC saw the passing boom and was like, that's not just that's just not the way we wanna do things here. And Alex Smith already, Alex Smith yards per catch has gone down. Against Canarian the league against the secondary in the legal against an against the worst secondaries in the history of football that Marcus Lattimore Marshon Lattimore didn't play in that game. He was out like the first quarter. Yeah, dude, God, it's so frustrating. Let's stick with the NFC is very briefly talk about Thursday night football for thirty seven here. I hope you're ready for the deer of the saquon Barkley experience. He did so much ridiculous shit last week. It was so fun to watch. But what we have the very not good New York Giants running game against the best rush defense and football, and it is going to be on watchable and less Oto. Beckham can absolutely shred Jalen mills and Ronald Darby, which by the way that's on the table. I just don't know how this is going to be a fun game to do remember. I don't know how big of a college fan tomorrow, but maybe twenty years ago. The unstability stopped giving television bands as part of like scandals, like it was recruiting violations. Sometimes there's like. Okay. So that was literally like a thing they did in the eighties and early nineties was you're gonna get a television ban and you just can't appear on television for a couple of years. I was an instable a discipline. I'm ready to, hey, there's been no scandal here, but I'm ready to give the giants television ban now because I like watching saquon and Beckham when the right I it's not their fault that UI manning exists. They didn't do this. No, but it would put pressure on them to get rid of Eli. Well, I don't think they're going to need any pressure. My man, I think that's, that's. That's all I do it do it now I thought that that was the case last year in here we are. They took a running back with the second overall pick. Yeah, that's fair. Seem like a pretty obvious decision last year, and here we are. It seemed like it. But here we are again. Yes, here we are now. It seems like another obvious decision. I'm excited to only watch like a half hour of this game before I go see Brian Fallon tonight at it's going to be great. It's exciting. Yeah, I'm looking forward to it. He's playing lots of. Gaslight songs going to be great. That's true. Yeah, that's cool. Yeah, I'm really looking forward to. It's all acoustics can be very pleasant and it's gonna be fun night and it's going to be and I don't have to watch eagles giants until tomorrow. I'm probably going to watch you. Do you buddy? I live in a life. 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Hour 4: 6/24/19

"The Paul finebaum show podcast has been brought to you by the Capital, One sabre card earned four percent cash back on dining and entertainment, two percent of grocery stores, and one percent on all other purchases. Now when you go out you cash in what's in your wallet terms apply. Cried passion, and patterns re of college football leaves here. The is the Paul finebaum show, our four podcast. Worldwide you're here, Steve Spurrier among our guests earlier. And we had a good time. Chatting with him with your right to the call a fee is in New Jersey, and you are next. But are you doing? Hey, good afternoon. All right. How you doing, sir? Doing. Great. Thank you for the call. Sure. Either question. So based on what I'm reading on the on my Twitter pitfalls on your Twitter, pace rather I don't know if this is true, you are selling team harbor. It's bender bell, Michigan might correct? Yeah. We started the show off. We just with the game. Starting an hour from now, we said, okay we got I got an SEC team into dander belt. Michigan. What's place, a friendly bet with Jim Harbaugh I offered to go up there, where jersey a Michigan practice, we didn't ask him to do very much at all. This all stems from him calling me out two years ago on Twitter. So we put this tweet out three hours in two minutes ago. We had not. Sooner older never ever disrespected, you know that I never made it personal. I don't know what the heck is going on, because Cran beat miss YO state, you, and I know for damn. Sure. And as far as my four is in Texas, really take your business. So what, what's the difference by the bad news for you? Goodness is good helpful just great, but that his I'm so. Sorry, sir. My position says Michigan in a win. So I have to wear that jersey correct. I mean. To, to have to pay off a bet. A c you must accept about. Yes. I mean if I'm Jim harbor, I'm doing that. Only in the why. Because the prediction is that especially because gonna win? And then we started is more kubiak on Jones. Let me see marquee, marquee. Is he still here? Yeah. He'll what do you have a good ass? Fantastic. Are you? I'm doing great. On his related, congratulations. Congratulations. On the show. Thank you. Appreciate that. On a second. Sure. Mission is gonna one you can believe. Somebody let me know when the call over it's over. Paul, we can all move on now. I was working twenty twenty taxes during that call. Let's check out Stewart in Alabama. You're on the air. Go right ahead, Stewart. Hey ball, either. We're doing well, thank you. Good. I had a question for you about the Gus malzahn situation. Sure. Him going back to what kinda got him. They're calling plays. Do you think that, that might spark something new with, with Auburn this year with quarterback like possibly hopefully, Knicks starting he thinks that he has to win a certain amount of games to, to stay either way without having the, the president there anymore to have back at this one that hear your thoughts? Yeah. Listen. I don't know how much different sets going to make for this reason. And Stewart I think we all know Gus malzahn has really been calling the plays for years. I mean he's the head coach. He's an offensive guy. He may not be directly calling them but it's his offense. So I, I don't see that having a tremendous impact. I think the schedule was really his, his enemy, and he's going to have to win some games that, that he may not be favored to win. It starts with Oregon. He will be favored to win that game but he has. He has to top two of the top three teams in America on the schedule. Both games at home. He has three road games against three of the better. Upper division SEC teams. I'm talking about AM, Florida and LSU. So I've just given you five games that he could lose a no one would be surprised Oregon is a top ten game. And then your garden variety. The SEC game that he always manages to blow one of those. Yeah, you're exactly right. That organ game. Stares me especially going in as possibly the favorite in that game. It seems like with gusts. It's you never know we pull we pull it out of the out of the hat and win the ones. We're not supposed to and then go into a game, we're supposed to blow him out and get the, the shoes, Auburn friend the other day at lunch, and we were trying to figure out the schedule. And let's say even if you give Auburn the organ game it's a toss up first game of the year. You never know all the cliches you want, and we can throw at you, but, I mean the other five I mentioned and by the way, I'm not even we're not talking. I'm completely ignoring games against Arkansas on the road, Mississippi State. I mean games that I mean Auburn lost to Tennessee last year at home. No, you're exactly right. Offer. Set your time and I also wanted to let you know, to I checked with the, the doctors and I can't give that kid me. I can't even donate blood. So apparently that's gonna be able to table that maybe I wondered about that in a talked to physician, and, but I tell you one thing, the, the fact that you offered is pretty amazing. Well for shade it appreciate I mean you got. Figured, you know, somebody needs not giving it's really magnanimous of you. But you stay you stay in touch with the Stewart always great to catch up things offer. She'll be well, my friend, good to hear from you m j is up. Next MJ go right ahead. They call Lovato, thank you. I've got a great. I've got a great idea for you to get Harbaugh to call it. Okay. What is it? Well, I thought that maybe if you showed the video him on the sideline picking his nose and eaten his Boogers, I would that would not him to call in. And now that you mentioned on figuring about withdrawing my offer. Anyway, I don't know if I want to be around him. Yeah, he has the, the ten Steph sleepovers for his recruits. Well said, I'll tell you what we are going to send them a text with that pictures if he responds. Somebody will Jeff is an Oxford Mississippi. You're on the air. Go right ahead. Hey, paul. This is Jeff champion. I talk to you. This is my second time on the show and just want to thank you for taking my call today. And really sincerely, enjoy your show. I think you do a tremendous job for not only SEC. But just football, general this to remind you, you know, my father played up to the ole miss played for Johnny Vall. Oh, wow. Fifty nine sixty three they won os great team. Yeah. Those really great teams the four years. My dad played for Tokes fault. They lost four games. He went to to serve the bows, and the Cotton Bowl and, and is actually on the Walker champions. So no, you talk about an era in almost football. That's about as good as that may be as good as it gets. Oh, it is. And this the stores. You know, my father passed about four five years ago, but the stories that he tells or just next to none. And. Well, I'm glad you brought this up because I, I was never I think I did interview 'em lateness life, but Johnny vodka. Coach doesn't get credit in the modern era by younger people. I'm I've been around long enough to remember his greatness. But I'm really glad you brought that up because I really think he is one of the best SEC coaches of all time. We lost a call, but it was a great call, by the way, he Johnny really wasn't amazing amazing coach. Thank you for the coach from forty seven in toll nineteen seventy that was the era of, of all the great coaches, duly, Bryant kneeland, should Jordan. Let's check in next with Willie in Montgomery Willie. Go right ahead. I m farmer we're doing. Well, thank you. Okay. I'm, I'm real Donohoe, Alabama fan. I actually I think about something. But you think about when Nick Sabin, office, according to you, you think he, he'll he would have thought the Mike Shula office coordinator. No. I don't I in Chula was successful as a coordinator at various places. But I just think. Especially since you know, he took over for Shula. There was some bad blood between Shula's dad and saving Don Shula was very harsh on Savin when he took over, and I, I don't know what we're as much. Sure right now, lost rocker is easy. Still in the NFL. I think he's he's at Carolina. He was. He's no longer Carolina. They fired him a couple of. Took over. I thought maybe I'd say, maybe had a good heart just trying to get another chance or something. Yeah. Shoe was the offense coordinator, the giants, which looks like a good career killer. It's an interesting suggestion. But, but I don't think saving once Mike show around. I really don't know much or anyone else does either, we're up against the break. Br. Brendan Marcello will join us at the bottom of the hour. An update from the college World Series next. Fried passion, then pattern three of college football leaves here. The Paul finebaum show our four podcast. Thank you guys. And we'll be back to you very soon with a preview of the game college World Series. Tonight at seven PM looking back to the calls and Mike is up next in Georgia. Hey, mike. Hey man, I'm getting Advani game especially if the hearing that little update right there. That was should be really cool. It ought to be a great game. And is it will be much better than any sports that was on TV this weekend? Myself watching some major league game Saturday night. Like I can't believe I'm doing this, but there's. I did watch the braids, but the next best option was, I think, cricket from Pakistan. A bad option too. Paul reason dot call was Friday. You had a caller, and he was confused as far as the ratings for recruits between the star rating and the numeric rating. And I thought if I could just quickly shed a little bit of light on that, please. Okay, if he was looking at twenty four seven sports, they assign a numeric rating to every recruit, and it's a composite rating, and they use their own research. They use ESPN's research, they use rivals, you scout they use everybody. Okay. So they assign that rating in that determines how many stars, they get so typically a five star player will have a ninety eight ninety nine or one hundred eighty okay that's kind of simplifying it. But basically, that's what it comes down to. And there's usually in a given year thirty to thirty five players get a five star rating that hundred rating is very, very rare. Look back in the last ten years. Only three players have received that one of them was today beyond clowney. One was Robert Kim Dietschy in the other one was ratio in Geary up at Michigan. And so that's that's really hard to get like Trevor Lawrence got a ninety nine point nine nine two years ago. So anyway, not to get too deep into. But then you're four stars come down. They'll have a rating from ninety up to ninety seven and they typically comprise the rest of the three hundred best players in the country. You know, you're ESPN three hundred twenty four seven sports three hundred and so forth. And then after that, of course when you get below the ninety get down to the three stars. So anyway, not trying to throw to me figures out there and be non compelling. But I just thought it might shed a little light on what he was looking into thank you very much. Good stuff. Mike. Always nice to hear from you. Art is calling next good art. Thanks a lot. Fall as always. Hey, this past the four on this is that other questions. But what's the Shula hate mail? With your what the shooter? What would it mean? Look. Yeah. Also did was suggested to the offense coordinator Alabama. I, I was the only thing that's sure I really understood. You know what we'll move on? How about Dave in Georgia, Dave guard ahead? Hey, hey there. We'll be seventy six thirty and enjoy your show every day. Thank you. Happy birthday. Thank you. I get a lot on firstly the calls, I'm I wonder say about a love burden and all we have a good year. And I like Gus falls on my hope he coached for a lot of years. Well, that's good. You should be fan if you're an Auburn person, well, I am and. Say something, I'm embarrassed for you, and Danny, and Mark that you let. Jim cole. And where are you out in you don't do anything about it? Just don't stay today. Let me let me explain all try to explain. I've learned over the years that if you fight every battle, you're going to be exhausted by the time, we really needed to, to, to make a point. And to me, if someone wants to say what he says, and he's perfectly entitled to it, it doesn't doesn't really affect me very much. He has a few good points and a lot that are repetitive. So I don't I Dany market speak to for themselves guys. You have a response to that. Anybody's allowed to call on the show and give their opinion. College show. You're, you're giving yours nowadays. Yeah. That's okay. I usually turn him off, and go to Indy Griff what he's on wonder day would be a good idea. Should we look into maybe putting a gym button on everyone's radio and TV that I don't know Paul just hit a button, and it goes off while he's on the second he and just put something else on, like a like a old call or something? Well, he uses little profanity day who Andy was one of my favorite shows growing up if you had to cast Jim on the, the old Andy Andy Griffith show. Do you, do you have somebody in mind? I don't think anybody is clean show. Yeah, I was thinking of. Even even Otis's is a more likable character, wouldn't you? Yeah. Well uses all other people doing like that. But yeah, we don't okay we're Joe it. You can order any what he wants. Well, listen. I prefer thanks for the call. That'd be great birthday. Hope you stay in good health, and Dave, thanks for this ingestion. Let's check out. Peyton up next. Hey, Peyton Mr.. How you doing? We're doing great. Thank you. This one thing about what he was talking about twenty four seven sports, posit college rankings. Don't mean any Hilla Bates, as long as raking Todd thirty thirty range find the far I mean, I've seen commitment be committed to assist give North Carolina and next week or that week he was a force star next week, commits Georgia helped him and all of a sudden five star. It's all really get the whole rating thing. Anyway, I call it in. I wanna talk about a Docker lease, but I, I really enjoyed how your interview couple of days ago with Robert Baker. It was great. I don't. If wanted to say what happens from alive standpoint. What would happen at all had actually new. Yeah. Listen, having been bitten by many dogs. I doubt very much would have happened. I'm sure I'm sure there are some legal requirements, but I've been around the that the old dog and I don't think AGA. Could really hurt anybody with a bite? You did hers was remember to roller towers and seven iron bowl. Getting getting bitten the hand eye. Glad you remember that. Yes, that was crazy. Now, the, the only dog is ever concern me a little bit with smoking. I, I do a lot of dog stuff on our Saturday show during the fall and smokey I don't think smokey was ever awake long enough to bite. But he didn't he I wouldn't Lhasa work, but didn't he break off his least one time. Yeah. I believe I mean kick counter a little while now I've always gotten, I've met every one of the I met the Billy at Mississippi State. Very nice dog, the old dog and now the, the new iterations and have never really had a problem that was just a situation where dogs saw somebody so an Auburn player trying to get away and decided to do it Auburn the, the, the Georgia defenders could not do. Anyway, we. We are heading to Omaha in a moment. If you're with us on the on the radio side, we are going to talk to Brandon Marcel about what Gus malzahn future could mean now that we have a change in the president's office. Cried passion, then patterns re of college football leaves here is the Paul finebaum show. Our four podcast here for the final minutes of the show and his most of you have heard by now quite a weekend. If you're an Auburn football fan, the ouster of these school, president, the man who brought. Gus malzahn forty nine million dollar contract couple years ago, Brandon Marcella joining us have rented, always great to have you on. Only think about Auburn doesn't matter, whether it's a quiet as week of the year or not, there is usually news. Thanks so much for being here and kind of take us through the whole chapter of Stephen leaf, and we'll obviously get to what it means. But how did we get to this point? You know, he was just never a good fit. You know, and it was little thing after little thing after thing and simply long story short. He he lost the trust of the board of trustees of his employees is people underneath him. He was quite the micro manager with the FOX department, which, of course, is only part of, you know, his job responsibilities as the president of entire university, but over a period of time it really became clear during his first year that he wasn't quite the right fit for, for Auburn university. So he, he made this decision a couple years ago I on mouth Zahn, and, and we all we both know it did not go over well with, with several members of the board of trustees who were fairly outspoken privately. I don't know if anyone everyone public but you're not both know there were some old guard who were really irritated in the mouths on another season. That's not all that great nearly got fired at the end of the year. And here we are again. Yeah. And, you know, that was a part of reason why you know, part of the reason one of the Domino's that led to Stephen Lee ouster is just the way he's handled certain things with with athletics. And obviously that contract is a huge bullet point everybody. But there's other other issues you just see over the last few weeks, for example, I guess it's really the cap or to Stephen lease entire all short career here at Auburn, you know, I- Chad to chase him down at the spring meetings up the staircase to ask him a couple of questions. You talk to me, and I asked him about this long, just stating discussed football only complex that Alan green, and yeah. Flex, I been wanting to build. And I asked them is this gonna come up at the next board of trustees meeting, which was mid June. And he said, now, it's not going to be discussed. Well, seven days later at the board of trustees meeting. They tell Steven leaf. Hey, go film. Oh of for you. No go fill up a working group to get this done what start moving forward capacity. And by the way, while that happened, there also forming in other working group to, to, to look over his tenure as president and kind of review things. And then here we are a couple of weeks later, and he's been kicked out and booted the he just seemed to, I guess he was kinda put mud on the tires so to speak for a lot of things that we're trying to be done at all. So let's, let's move him out Jae Gu's back is respected figure been there, a long time in Auburn man, is there any guests how long he will be there. And, and, and he's lead tell me but it seemed like from my distance, he was a hands off athletic department. President. Yeah. The first part, there's no telling it could be a few months could be a year breeze presidential searches. Usually take a while. And I would think my educated, guess, based off of how this issue Stephen Lee came to be in this transpired. They're gonna take their time and finding the next president, though, there are some favorites among, you know, some members of the board of trustees, including the provost, who's here already at Auburn university and was a candidate for the president president job before was hired. What was the other part of the question? I'm sorry. I'm completely lost one training, by the way, I to stop on that subject, because these presidents are not e-. We just had the former president or the retiring president of, of South Carolina in our studio. Brandon Harrison CD's that he's I think they may have brought somebody from Auburn in as well. I can't remember this is the same person or not that you refer. Too. But I mean they they dented four candidates. They hired one and they were about to hire one. They decided they didn't like any of them. Well that's the way it goes. I just remember the other part of your question, Jay has been in the past a hands off type president type of guy that wants to make the hires to litas departments and let them lead their departments. And then he judges goes leaders and makes those decisions on whether to keep those leaders on board or not, he's not the type to go in and go, I don't think this head coach is doing a good enough job, or whatever Alan green do, do what you will the issue that lies underneath the surface here though, is that how in green was not hired by j Gu's. She was hired by Stephen lease. And Stephen leaf was micromanaging Alan green. So if you're Alan green, you know, you're going into your second year here as f- lecture and you're thinking, okay, what's my job. Stability look like he won't really know intil the permanent president, I would think comes into into. Focus because when Alan green was hired there was some pushback by some members of board of trustees and powerbrokers of, hey, we want an experience. I flex director. This guy's only had a year or two as an ADA at the university of buffalo. Is he really ready for this job? So now that Stephen Lee who was his protector. So this week by being as being the guy who hired him Alan greens, gonna be sitting there wondering about his future, because certainly some more members voted trustees might seen opening here, exercise some power, maybe look at some things down the road that my eyes. I said, when you have an ouster like this with Stephen Lee, the president of the university dominoes start falling all the way down. The pecking order, usually does it affect athletes department. Certainly it some extent, you know, even with football with Gus malzahn, say they were to go eight and four some could say that presents Stephen lethal. Still the president in my say, hey, we're keeping him because he's my guy, I gave him this big deal. Deal. But now that lease not there. He doesn't wrote decimals doesn't really have that safety net. So maybe just mouse on when it gets the benefit of the doubt, if they were to have another eight win season or something like that with this tough schedule. So one way or another. This is going to affect the athletes department just remains to be seen how big of a deal it is particularly for Alan green, and the future of the leadership there, because I want to add this Alan Greene was at been micromanaged quite a bit by Stephen leaf. And I wonder based off garages passes the president previously now is the interim president to be hands off with things flex department. If feel owls more conomy DAL and green Alan green moved board with some of the ideas, he wants to implement here over the next calendar year. So if that happens allegories got some great ideas, I believe in talking to him and others around him. And I think he's a very, very sharp guy when it comes to the future of athletics, not just in the SEC at all, but across the country, I think he'd go out and. Quote unquote, prove himself to these people that were doubting him when he was first hired. Yeah. When we talked to him and in, in Destin about Gus malzahn, you could tell I'm sure you've talked to him more maybe off the record than on. But it was it was a conversation. He just did not want to have. Yeah. And it's one that, you know, listen, it's not it's not the soupy cooks. I mean, it, you're what he's been asked to do is come into a kitchen and go outta meals. Half prepare can you finish it up? And he's like, I don't even want this to be served let alone to be help fixing it. So he went to a situation that, that new contract was all set up before you arrived. And he inherited that now what he has said repeatedly. And I'm sure he said on your show is you're gonna do it every everything in its power to help make Gus malzahn successful. But when the time comes, and he has to make a hard decision difficult decision Allen drinks have to make that decision and really not necessarily do it on his own now but he's not gonna have Stephen lease. Bring breathing down his neck going, you need to keep this guy, you need you need to figure out a way to keep him because leaf legacy was tied Gusmao zone on with that contract. One way or the other, and it was just a matter of time before Leafs legacy. Ended at Auburn, it happened a little bit sooner than I thought, but having said that and how Alan green and heritz Nellie inherited this mess. But now that lease gone. I think Alan green should have a little bit more autonomy to act in his own is own ways with his own voices helping him voice kinda shape, this department, the way it should go forward and said of Stephen leaves saying, hey, this is how things are going to be going down the line. Brandon. Let's say we get that eight and four record, which is no man's land in Auburn football and what I mean by that is nobody really knows what it means because it's right there line of demarcation, how, how decision be reached to whether to retain or release Gus malzahn, you know, I think a lot of it just has to do with which those games are the losses. What other let me make it easy for you. Let's say it's an Alabama and after that take your pick. Take what an Alabama or the losses and more, I think he's gone. I just don't think that'll set well enough with the board and obviously, some of the other folks, and also, remember, Raymond Harvard is on the board was a big proponent and preparing the seven year deal for Gus malzahn and his voice is certainly taking a big hit, and is not gonna have as much say going forward with Gus malzahn tenure. And as I said, without Stephen leaf and now harbored voice being quiet because of lease Elster, if you're eight and four and you have losses, Georgia, and Alabama, you're not gonna have as much support as you probably would have had had Lee silken the president. And I would think at that point, you would probably see a change at the top of the food chain for many years. This board was was fairly well known. There was a time when one man in Montgomery was considered the most power trustee in the country. Is there any way? I mean you mentioned Raymond harbored who apparently gained a lot of power with leaf, but you Jimmy rain on their certainly the best, probably the best known person on the board writing. But, but where we how, how would you break the power down? I Jimmy range at the top of the pile right now. I thought harbored was at definitely moved his way up and listen harder still alive. Great stuff. The university is names on a bunch of buildings and, and, you know, classrooms and everything. But with athletics, his name is name is certainly not caring as much as it did just two years ago. But I believe Jimmy rains at the top top right now of that heap right now in some other things start working its way you know, out, working itself out or these next few months as I start discussing a permanent fixture at president, the when it comes that flex, I think at, at this point Jimmy rains got. Has the rain so to speak more so than anybody else, this moment, and it's worth remembering Jimmy rain is also still very close to the former coach Pat dye, and that, that's a tandem that some people thought had moved on. But it looks like they have moved back based on what you're saying. Yep. Definitely. And I think that the voices that were maybe against change in the past, as far as, you know, not maybe not wanting to leave their maybe Alan green was too little bit to experience. Those are the people whose voices will be heard the loudest in the months coming up. Right in its late summer, but early summer late June. But Auburn football never goes away too much. Hey, thank you so very much for coming on. It's an incredibly important story on their tongues are wagging, all across that state, and we appreciate you enlightening us, and we'll talk soon. I hope. All right. Thank you, Paul. Thanks for having me. Great to have you on. We will take a break. We still have a few minutes. Go if you want to get in and have a reaction to that or something else. The phone number is eight five five to four to seven two eight five eight five four to seven to eight five a lot or to vailable for you. We'll be right back. Book fried passion, then patterns re of college football leaves here. The, the Paul finebaum show our four podcast. A few minutes of the show. Grab will next in Birmingham will. Thank you. Good afternoon. Good afternoon fan bombs been a while since talked with you last, but karleena program gentleman colony and expressing his wishes that the next coach Alvin be a defense ivine coach and you gave him a criteria of what you thought the current powers that be down. There would be looking for in a new coach. I can't remember the exact words used but hard nose and indoor defensive-minded old school. Coach. And would you also say that it would need to be somebody with SEC background? Yeah. I mean I let me as I said that there may be one exception to that, by the way, I was I was very accurately describing we'll mush champ. I didn't want to get started. But immediately light went on in my head said this man subscribing, we'll must champ. And you know why bring this up is that he is quite close to both, Pat dye, and Jimmy rain. Yeah. And, you know, for those who don't know much champ has twice worked at Auburn as a defensive coordinator, most recently three years ago, and he. I, I remember I think it was a couple of the year that we all thought that males on was going to Arkansas, which was two years ago, I suppose I was with will Friday afternoon before the iron bowl we happen to be in Columbia that day for the Clemson game. And I asked him, I said, by the way, your name's pretty hot and heavy for Auburn he kind of looked at me. So I'm not going there, but he didn't say it with conviction than. Well, when you look at it, you know, as well as I do much easier to win and build a program at all in this acount. Yeah. And I, I will say, I always thought much would have been a good fit at LSU a really good fit at Auburn. He he just he, he has the personality that, that would work there. And, and you listen you already, you know, a lot about Auburn, Pat dye, Jimmy rain, will very likely make this choice. So I was just going. That's who you. Immediately. One thing I don't know is. If he has a I mean he he's got a impossible schedule this year at at at South Carolina. And if he doesn't have a good year he may think them himself. Listen, I'm I'm battling Daboh on one side, Kirby on the other, maybe I should if they offered, it would be hard for me to believe he would turn it down. I mean, Knicks eight minutes turn sixty nine years old, and I will would like to be the guy who is in the same stay with Nick Sabin. Well, I was just going though, I don't know in my question for you kind of serious. What do you think would be the Auburn fan reaction to that, that mixed reaction or podcast reaction would be, I think, I think it depends on this season, if he could have a good year I think it would really help, but if he limps through the season six and six, I think it would it would go over pretty poorly. Hey, thanks very much. Exception.

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REShow: Hank Goldberg. Hour 3 (05-17-19)

The Rich Eisen Show

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REShow: Hank Goldberg. Hour 3 (05-17-19)

"Thank you for listening to this podcast. One sports net. Production available on apple podcasts and podcast. One. Hey, it's shaggy now that the NBA also, we can is over. It's time for the second half of the season to get underway. It's a tight battle in both the western and eastern conferences, as teams vying for playoff position that I've been saying for months, there's only one place again on all the action, then online dot AG sign up today for a free account and use the promo code podcast. One. And when you make your first deposit you'll receive a fifty percent bonus that's promo code podcast. One NBA savings heating up. Don't miss out on all the fund better. Alon dot AG online sportsbook experts experts experts. I can't believe it. Let Philip brought his little brother on our mission into orbit how long until it get their alarm. Probably get there. I'll learn to get there. No. I can't believe how easy it was to save hundreds of dollars on my car insurance with Geico. What's this button? Do what's this button do? But this button do visit. I believe at Geico could save you fifteen percent or more on car insurance. Hour number three of the rich Eisen show is on the air and Goldberg, the hammers about to call in and give us his two cents to get us more than two on the on the Preakness thirteen worse. It seems like a lot for the Preakness. Doesn't it? So Hanks about the join us right here. Tiger is I can't say in the fairway and I can't say on the green after that shot. He is. He's, he's often running he teed off. I whole he's two over par coming into today. I hold today snapped at so far left on his first T-ball snapped at so far left, that it took several minutes for while it's not the masters call the patron the gallery, the, the yeah Gary, here's army. That's it's a public course in New York City, the people, the peeps, a pitiable to get the people out of the way. Hey, yo get out away. Tyco Z snapped that he's, he's he snapped at so far left him. Nearly snap this whole head off right? Hey, and it landed in the deep deep rough, which is called in Gulf fescue. But a New York fescue is what they told me when I cut them off in traffic. Fest me. No. You. I'm saying that's the way it goes in New York. When we play some golf on the throngs Nick, did you tell me too fast. You. So, but the ball, you could see it in the fescue, and tiger got it to the greenside bunker. Wow. And now he's out. And he's putting for par. Now, it'd be a scramble unbel- to start the round today. Right. So KEPCO is out there. He seven under. He's too in front of Jordan, speak, your clubhouse leader at five under after shot four under today. Just like Daniel Burgi. He's four under par periods. Same as Dustin Johnson. Tommy fleetwood. He's four holes into his rounded, a one under four under on the tournament. So that's the way we're rolling right here on the PGA championship will keep an eye on all of that is the on the ham. All right. Here can you can you can we call the hammer to post right here on the rich Eisen show. Can we do that? Good to see a Hank to see what's going on having. The C KEPCO just put one moving into three feet on the first of all we go to have midnight. I haven't nine to one is that really nine to one that obviously pretournament, right Hank. Yeah. Okay. What else you got on this on this championship? Anything or that's your only ticket. I played Patrick, however, you say his name, but he's under pantley finished. His second round. Very good. All right, Hank. Let's get to it right here before we get to the Preakness. What did you think of that finished? You think that was the rightful Diku of maximum? Yeah. You did. Okay. Yeah. I thought that he had to come down by I was on the air at the time. And I said before Bill Maher said that this was the third race. That's your favorite local racetrack. He would have come down within five minutes. I think that the decision that I don't agree with was was suspending fires for fifteen days. I think he did whatever he could to avoid an accident and did a good job of restoring horse, so that there was no accident. NCI. Actually should be praised for for avoiding any further trouble in the race and he's going to repeal that. I hope he wins that those stewards, I agree with what they did. Although I don't know why they had to be acclaim how you know, they should have put you know, they should have put it in as a problem before that. And why it took them forty minutes to make a decision. I didn't understand that either. What do you think of the idea of a lawsuit by maximum security, the owners of maximum security? Hank, I wouldn't bet on them. I mean, how many times can they disqualify this worse this there's, there's no chance? Right. Approve. Now, I wonder how what, what is the etiquette of handicapping here Hanky? Do you go up to Bill Mont and say, how come you didn't you know whisper my year about, you know, the long shot to win country house? Why don't you whisper about that? Do you do that? The win the race with that horse that amazing. You know, he he, he really likes to, you know, his other horse to, you know who was. You know, he likes who had really trained up to that race. And, you know, the race was a fluke. It was written, you know, it was run in terrible conditions. There was a lot of a lot of bumping around going on because of tracking so gooey and the horses were hitting each other through the whole the whole race in his horse. In fact, that the one who the like got knocked around plenty and he ran a big race considering all the difficulty at night. I think the Belmont will be interesting. Okay, let's get to the Preakness right here, Hank the hammer Goldberg on the rich Eisen show, this a large amount of horses for the Preakness. It seems like so but you, you would obvious. Better. Okay. Yeah. Usually a lot of a lot of forces, a lot of horsemen pass on the Preakness coming out of their every, which happened again, but because of the field is not supposed to be as tough this year bought horses entered MS thirteen horses in, but you know horses, but this was an odd year and that there were a few horses who with a break or two could have been in the Kentucky Derby but didn't have enough points. And some of them are in this race in one of them. I like a lot a lot. I'd like it. All right. Let's get into it. Who do you like a lot in this Preakness? I like bourbon war. I talked to his trainer. Marquette guest today, Mark and I are good friends and call them he got right back to me. This is a horse that ran in the fountain of youth, and he was second, and he's a closer and he was running on a speak favor and track. And he grant fourth in the Florida derby, and he was just beating out of the third spot by code of honor who ran a big race in the Kentucky Derby, and, you know, hit the board, but and if, if this worse had gotten a little bit of a better started as move a little earlier, he would have beaten code of honor on a speed savior and you track. And, you know, we of course, you know, maximum security, one that raised with as loan speed, and he should like the extra. Distance in this race and talking with with Mark. He's told me that these making a little sleight just adjustment equipment adjustment, with what they call short term blinkers so that the horse will make his move a little earlier. He's got way war of will or way of will rather and warriors charge on either side of them. Both of whom are going to go for the lead early, which will create a lot of room for max are of for bourbon war. Excuse me, and he should get a real smooth trip and ideal trip from the two posts. Okay. And, and this worse. He's training great right now. And he's as good as an horses that ran in derby based on his performance on speed favoring tracks in Florida and he should get the best of it because there's a lot of speed in this race. That's up for him. I like the odds at twelve to one right now, as you and I are talking, he won't be twelve to one. Okay. That guy made a bad line. And when you get a bad line in football, you go for it. And this was a bad line I, he should be five or six to one and, you know, the trainer agrees with me, if there's no way, I think he's gonna get bit. Okay. Don't think you'll be twelve to one post time but, but I, I came so much. I never bet horses to win. I'm betting this horse to win. That is a very high praise quality endorsement from the hammer. All right. Then how do we fill out a ticket exact as trifecta supers me out here how sign I want to Hank? I want to sign up. I wanna sign or to a signer aren't just that's all I want. You know, all right. You ready? I'm ready. Yeah. I sort of giving you the signer in the last race. All my dad was suppose twenty remember. But I didn't put him on. But I didn't put him on. Top could you imagine a fifty cent was fifty grand right for this super derby or grand cash? But anyway. It's interesting talking with some of the trainers, they horse, they think may be the one to beat is Owen deal post five, okay? He's tend to one okay he'd be another twist of fate who six to one out of the twelve bowls, who got a bad post, and he wa- still when the L and a race who that was running Kentucky Owen. Dale is was a little bit Lexington stakes chat three starts this year. And he's one twice. And he's got the right kind of style and, and he's getting good at the right time. I think you have to use improbable 'cause he's the class of the race. And although I remember talking to Elliott Walden from Winstar about possible distance limitations for the source, and he said that, because the sire side would suggest that. And you said this, I wouldn't. Have distance limitations. Well the race she ran in every would indicate that he thought that he couldn't make the mile and a quarter. He was in good position and he just didn't fire and stretch. So I'm putting him probable in because I think you have to use them. He's Baffert who an all seven pregnancies that the that he won the horses came out of the derby. Okay. And then there's another horse in here called always mining. We six for six are this year is last six races. All of them were run at one track Boral. He, he won the Tesco, and he came from a little bit off the pace. Normally he's on the lead. But I would put him in there and talking with a couple of trainers. I in fact, talking with with the trainer of bourbon War I asked him about other horses. He said, he looked at film of always mine. He, he said, that's a good horse. Okay. So what do you got for me here that scared off by the fact that he's only one at one track. Okay. And remember the test show used to be run at Pimlico, but they only weren't run twelve races a year. Now if I'm like, oh, so this'll be as I race over that track. So I'm gonna use the two with the five to seven and, and the four. Okay. So you it comes to five seven, you're going to have a signer. Okay. All right. So your, your best exact is what to five bourbon war and Owen deal. Yes, it is. Okay. And. Trek fan. I if you wanna throw in one more worse. Okay. Who, who will give you the bomb. It's warriors charge who's who's only who's never run into stakes race. But he's two for two at the races at Oaklawn and he won his last twelve and a half lanes. And he's got a ton of speed. Okay. And he may, you know, he may hold on for peace. Best exact is to five, and if you're doing a try you want you, you have to throw him probable two five four, right? What you said and then two to five to five seven okay, very good. But she's always mining. Thank you. Thank you. The best man. I am mandated ask you, as we go out the door right here, the tests is that named after the go to character from the godfather, Hank, I you know, if that was a mistake that they made because PepsiCo was the guy who, who ratted out. Remember, Michael sure, named the race the Clemenza, he was loyal. You're right. You know, as you know, test yo asked Frank Kagan it'd be let off the hook for old time sake didn't work out. Spoiler alert, you know what I'm saying time. It's all time sake. That's why we're gonna win this race this one time for old times. Well done. We'll chat with you and a couple of weeks, I chat soon. Okay. Rates that's the hammer and colder to named the Clements the Clemente. The gun taken on. Okay. So to five is the exact. And then to five seven or in two five four it's two five seven four for the super. Fact, he says, that's your signer. Yeah. I think if you box Tribeca, two five four seven okay. You're safe. Now when he when he says, again for folks, a signer that means if you win so much money, nine four to sign for the federal government knows you pay your taxes at the track. That's right. That's called a signer ten ninety nine g there was assaulted. I'll tell you what, man. There was a signer Churchill Downs. Yeah. Yeah. Oh my God borsch was fifty fifty four thousand bucks was a super one dollar SUV. You put down a dollar right for the super, and if you hit it turn into fifty four thousand dollars. Oh my gosh out, because that was amazing one thousand dollars pardoned beef. But as you know, I like the box stuff I like the hedge, I want to say, okay when we come back what, what are you going to the news crawl? We got lots of good stuff. We got we hear from Patrick Peterson Peterson. We'll Cowboys will giants some NBA rumors saw. And then the, the Mets have a heck of a promotion. That's a great day. Okay. We got all that coming up. We're keeping an eye on the leaderboard, by the way, tiger scrambled for his par and Brooks. Kepco birdied the hole. I'm telling you that he is going to run away and hide seriously. Yeah. That nine to one, Hank got nice. Nice actually. Okay. Yeah. Right. She's when we come back news update, any phone calls, eight, four four zero four, which we will take your phone calls when we return in sports a trade can make or break your team. A good one can mean a championship. But bad one can set your franchise back for years, and it is no different when it comes to selling your trading in your car, you need to make good choices in with truecar. You've got a star on your roster. Just go to truecar simply enter your license plate number, and watch how your car's details pop up. Then answer few questions. Got a sports package or moon roof watches. 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I said that last hour run and hide Brooks cat run. And which is why I would have taken him to take our poll question. But I think people are still down on game of thrones. Updated over there, Chris. Yeah. So Mondays headline when we come back most likely headline on Monday three percent. Improbable. Wins. The Preakness thanks to Hank Goldberg. I think influencing that one bucks up three oh nine percent KEPCO winning the PGA sixteen percent warriors up three oh twenty eight percent disappointment in the game of thrones. Finale forty four percent? How about that game of thrones? Fennell Adam Scott. My good buddy from the Genesis open is four under today through five whoa. He's three-under-par. He just birdied his well, there's a group of players at two-under par. A player from Bangkok Thailand. I, I would I, I would ask you to say that it's just so good press. It is jazz, jazz, okay? He's got jazz hands. But yes. Oh man. Jane wanna ton on now. Well, it's just like that close. What Jane Wotton Anand is what I'm just I'm being hooked on phonics. Okay. Jane, it is. It is. It is. Letter, last name announed. Yeah. Jane watt. Jane Wotton on. And it looks like just go by jazz. You know. You know, you heard how thanks you jazz? Jane jazz hands. You heard how hang said last segment. Another twist of fate. Yeah. A horse. That's what this. That's what this name looks like it's all together. It's crazy. Mike. You can't pronounce this name, though. I wouldn't even I'm not gonna try Wotton on and Lorenzo VERA, I would go with that one one. Let's go to phone lines right here, Brian into mecca California, Temecula, California. Chris Brockman is taken many videos of slot machines and put it on his Instagram. Stop winning the what's going on Brian. Thanks mccoll. Rich. Ruled that I'd like you to take to Peter King driving, the crazy outta me for many years, it is. And it's a simple one where a team is printing to the other team and they punt the ball in the air and it goes down towards the receiving team. And the guy decides okay, I'm not gonna feel this. So he's telling his buddies to get away from the ball the old Peter play. Yeah. Yeah. Go ahead. No. No. It's called. It's called the screen the word Peter out. And when they hear the word Peter, they're supposed to run away from the don't ask me why it's cold air. Yes. That's what is he'll Peter play. The ground and being football. The way it is all blowing. It can take all kinds of different balances. So you've got a team now that's blocking for the person who's they think is gonna receive this ball and take off running permit term, and they don't know where the ball is the ball, hits the ground and barely Knicks their jersey automatically that ball becomes live. And you've got you know, twenty two guys now flying down the field. Full spiel slamming into each other to try and get a live ball. So what would you change have is the white like the Vikings are playing the Packers? I'm a Packers fan. Vikings put to the Packers minute fourteen after the game Rogers, you're going to get the ball back to try and win the game. But Jared Bush going down the block doesn't see the ball hit the ground in these, you know, his, his return is telling me get away whereas all hits his jersey and becomes alive bowl. Minnesota recovers in Rogers. Never get it took the rest, four minutes, and thirteen seconds to verify that the ball, actually touched his jersey. So let me ask you this Brian before before. I got to get to the news update. What's your fix because the ball if it does hit a member of the of the? The receiving team. It's live so and that and I do like that rule. I wouldn't want to change that. What, what is, you know, what constitutes a grazing or a full touching is the problem. Were you still get the ball to the offense? But you penalize them when the ball goes out of the end zone. So if the ball touches one of your team members still give the punt return team the ball but penalized and ten to fifteen yards from the where the ball touch them. Because as a punter, I know that my ball hits the ground it could go forward more towards the end zone. And that's what I rely on. You don't want to take that away from me. But if if it touches one of my opponent, my receiving team offenders than still penalize me as the receiving team by putting the ball backwards ten to fifteen yards after this is the goal don't give it to the other team don't make it live where now the injury factor is what I'm really seized guys are diving into their arms ner hands and they're getting just hammered. Brian, thanks for the call. You know what I'm going to still stick with mine with Peter boat when Peter calls next week. I'll give Brian into McClellan airing with Peter, see if it matches what anybody else's said. How does that sound like? That's fair enough. Yeah. Let's take one more call right here, buddy. Jeff in Detroit. It's been a while. What's up, Jeff? My to, you know what I love you guys so much. I was just talking to be why had no control over the radio and had to listen to her not going to say the name of this particular sports, but he loves to hear himself talk. And he, he mentioned, the Brian so much would've thought the was still in the play on, right? And he loves to play with their no beyond live. Oh, it's all good. It looks sometimes you just gotta stick with the guy loves to play family feud with his BFF on text. That's all man. Oh man. I listen question to you. Do you remember a playoff being this good? And being this involves what else somebody named of Ron not only that the quality of play on every, and these are household names in, I guess things that we're used to seeing this playoff series, the whole entire plans on the hall has been like eight one, and that's with. No. Pistons will sufficient for short periods the pan. But yet. I hear you Jeff. I hear you. I'm sorry that you went. I thought I'm sorry that you went through that whole thing without us. But thanks for calling in always left from you. Right back at you Jeff, thank you Jeff in Detroit. You got a news update over there is so good. He's, he's going to run and hide seal later lap the field. I really believe in nine birdies. Eleven pars in the twenty I don't know he's so locked in right now. I mean as long as the there's no like weather change. And but a weather change affects everybody. Let's it. Let's it the vans up. Brockman federal live report. Rock men with the news, brought to you by the twenty nine hundred Honda Civic lineup from the fun to drive civic sl versatile civic hatchback to the record breaking performance of the civic type r there really is a civic for every enthusiasts head your Honda dealer today to find yours. Christopher what do you have over there this week? Patrick Peterson cardinals. He hit with the six game suspension for PD us on. He was at his foundation last night and talked about it. Definitely definitely. Sorry, what, what, what we're broke out today, but for the for the most part, I just want to I think you guys understand my character, and also understand my commitment on and off the field. And also to my teammates in, in. Also today's on the cardinals organization that's why this is apparently very, very hard for me because I've never been in a situation before never wanted to have my name attached to anything like this. I'm just happy that now I can I can put it behind me. I known about it for months and knock can put it behind. Apparently. Well, I mean again when the NFL doesn't the NFL in the NFL PA PA do not say exactly what it was. But, you know, word comes out depends on and I had no idea. He's type two diabetes yet, and then apparently feeling sluggish she took something not feel sluggish didn't know that there was something banned in there. It is the rule that whatever you put in your fault for putting it in their doesn't matter if it's. Yeah. That's what happened. That's the there's no gray area. If it's in your body, you're the one who put it there. Now why was his six games and was only four I don't I honestly don't know. I can't sit here and I don't know only know Brooks kept guys no longer on pace for an eighteen hundred. He he part three. I mean he's slowing down. Guys these going down to birdies in a bar. I mean I don't know jeeze. I know Jason went we knows coming back to the Dallas Cowboys this year. It's tight end and was talking to the Fort Worth Star-Telegram said most talent on this year's Cowboys team he's ever played. I couldn't I couldn't believe it. I can't believe it, obviously played with Diddy. Did did he and Emmett overlap? Question. I think they had to have right. When did wit I come off the campus of, Tennessee and into the Dallas star first year they were on hard knocks? Right. So, so Emmett's last year in Dallas was two thousand two right. And it hasn't been around that long as he he's been around forever. But not that long, not that long. So Jason Whitten's first year in, Dallas was two thousand three they go. So Zeke has to be their most talented running back since Emin. Correct for sure. Okay. Amari Cooper has to be their most talented wide receiver. With dez. I mean who else is he had at that position miles Austin? Right. I mean right. Offensive line is, is good as its Keyshawn. I mean, we could go fleas right? Joey Galloway does Joey Galloway date him to o t o. Defensively. This is as good as defensive team there isn't football. You know how I feel about this defense, their stacks day can move stack that he can move so. I believe. Now, we get down to the Jack Romo conversation. I told you what I thought about the Dallas Cowboys this year. It's their division to lose. They want it last year. I don't think anybody's gotten appreciably better in the division to knock him off. I know the eagles fans would disagree with that. But it's the Dallas Cowboys division to lose. They want it last year. They made it to the second round of the playoffs. They won a playoff game last year, by the way they beat the Seahawks. That's no joke. It didn't. Right. So they wanna playoff game at home. Last year he played well against the right now. They gotta get to at home, and the do that you got to win your division and have a great season man, imagined the aerials or win, or, you know, if you went to at home, that means you also got a buy week and you get to the Super Bowl in the eagles start. Oh in two and foles gets off to a hot start off, please. I mean, we could go, you know what this is what we'll do in the middle of the summer news days. Here's what we'll do. We'll, we'll play family feud. And I know what we'll do is. Will will just come up with scenarios. Yes, I'm here positive positive scenario here for the house, it of and, and nightmare scenarios for teams. And we'll just go through it love it. How's that? All right. Let's stay in the NFC east, we've been talking about the giants allot Daniel Jones. Well so far is looked really good in rookie camp. Evan Ingram said Reese naps is that off. There's three snaps judgment. Evan ingram. They're tight end was planning its charity softball game Iki stadiums said that he's picking up the offense really fast. They've been trying to throw some stuff at him. And he's handled it really well, it's great. That comes off of Mike Shula saying last week when he said that Daniel Jones would be ready to go week one. If needed. You know, people will always talk football with me, right? And, and by the way, I love it. I'm not really. So waiters. Valet. Anywhere. Sure. People who I just come across going out to eat going around town, whatever I run in so many giants fans out here as a lot out here. All freaking out still. They've gone from my gentleman shes. No, he's doing right. 'cause the jets took care of that. Well, josh? Well cattleman on the payroll and the Redskins. I will take full credit for bathing him. He didn't bring it up. I brought it up. He did. But I, I just had fun. I had fun with them. He knows that sometimes I'm going to throw out a little cheese. He ate it though. He knows when he's taking it too. So we're all understanding when it was fun. That's making rounds today. It's all in good fun, fun, but. There. They've gone from, I don't know if it's a stage of grief or whatever, but they've gone from our general manager doesn't know what the hell it is. He's doing too. Is this guy? Good. Like they know they got him. They know he's there is any good. Yeah. He's good. I just we don't know how what's going to happen. And you talk about what happens if the eagles start owing to and foles goes, like crazy. What happens? What happens if the giants go onto own three and darnold looks great in that hometown? What happens then? Right. And what's happening exactly. Daniel Jones gets out there right in delight of the glue far. I mean, I, I don't know how the and this is the end game scenario for him for his career their New York which as you know, is a third rail subject and. Again, we'll just do this all in July. Let's hit the scenario is a nightmare scenario and NBA ready to rumors real quick. So Jackie MacMullan was on ESPN podcast recently with wind horse, and they were talking about Anthony Davis and the draft lottery. Yes. And she said she was told through channels that gale Benson, who owns the pelicans would trade, Anthony Davis to the Lakers, quote over my dead body, it kind of looked like that was the approach during the season. Yes. Thirty one speculating that Anthony Davis, west coast bound after the Zay on. I mean you wanna talk about an what they did. I mean they totally they totally messed up. The lakers. Oh, yeah. Totally right. Jack them. I know it leaves it worked. No. But at least. Magic's able to tweet now. From last night. Steph curry was playing like the old Steph curry before, K D joined the warriors tonight. He had thirty nine points, eight rebounds and eight assists. Thirteen thousand likes who's liking that. Then just moments later Draymond green. Steph curry with the best you players on the floor tonight for the world champion warriors. Sixteen points, ten rebounds, seven assists and five blocks for dream on. Wow. Just five point three thousand lines giving us the hundred likes. I'm so glad he's able to do that now. Or I'm here's this one from the draft lottery night. I miss this one Laker nation. Kyle Kuzma worked his magic to get the number four pick for our Lakers in the NBA draft. The Lakers are gonna get a really good young player to help LeBron and the team next season. Twenty nine thousand likes on that one. Here we go. How about that? How Kouzmin able to witness himself getting traded firsthand. But all of these are our he could have he could have he can't tweet about the warriors. If he's still Lakers president right about how great drawn dream onto free agent. He had seventy Tamminen. That'd be tampering. Yeah. What else over there? So Mark Stein was talking to Steven A, and they're talking about some Kevin Durant, Kyrie rumors. Everyone, of course, has them package deal to the Knicks. But Mark Stein, saying that the nets kyri is going to look at the nets just as hard as the worse. Yeah. Of course, both of them, they'll K D, And Kyrie, we we had Brendan Shaw on earlier this week. You know, there's the, the fight tomorrow night, and Barclay center in Brooklyn big fight the Deontay, wilder latest, right? Brazil file, and he's like the boxing in, in New York City's moved to Barclay, saying it's not about MSG anymore, which is an absolute travesty pave. All the big events, travesty rock and roll fame goes in Barclay bar, all where's the NBA draft? Yeah. Barclays. So, and that using the felt phone. Square, paramount felt forum and under the garden. Yeah. The NFL draft is on a road. It's in Vegas next year. They're about to order to two more towns, it was in Nashville last year. It was in Dallas before that Philly before that in Chicago twice before that. The reason why got it on the road is because Radio City Music hall decided to hold something called some spring spectacular out of the blue. Let the NFL no a year in advance. Your dates are no longer available. We're going to have some sort of spring spectacular for Easter and the rock cats and the NFL's, like, okay, then we'll hold it mother's day two weeks later. And then decided in that year long interim. We'll just take it out of New York City, period, and Radio City musical didn't hold the spring spectacular. After all, that, just made the NFL move the dates totally. Made them move for no reason. Lost the draft Dolan, owns that building to. Yup. Yeah, man. I'm used your story. Go wormhole. Three boxing, and football, I'm on, it's like a three dimensional Dolan, wormhole right now careful careful. All right. Last one guys last one July fifth. You guys got plans to I v July fifth day. I mean we are off that that fraud. Friday. Yeah. Yeah. Friday, Seinfeld day in New York. I guess the Phillies the Mets are going to have a Seinfeld night. So abridging the thirtieth anniversary of the show's premiere first ever episode. At city field. A Seinfeld bottle had got I twenty five thousand fans Seinfeld bobblehead. I in the concourse, you'll be able to talk to Larry Thomas, you know him as the soup Nazi. We're going to have Seinfeld trivia, hosted by Jerry Keith Hernandez is going to be there. Of course. He was in a couple of episodes season three you can get VIP packages. Tickets are available coming up. I've got the, the Mets announcement of, of Seinfeld day. Go ahead. What's coming toward us as he passes us Newman turns and says nice game pretty boy? And second Spitzer. The nice game Roger McDowell for. Mcdowell and then Wayne Knight, nice game pretty boy Seinfeld night. Love it. Bob'll thirty thirty years. It I tweeted out the other day, it was off the air for twenty one which is insane. It's been thirty three years since the family ties finale. I mean, don't get me started mad, I star so on LA. Seinfeld. I big star on the walkathons. CBS radford. Go and get my haircut. I was on sports center. I was on sportscenter standing on the corner of Columbus. And like, eighty I I like the story getting ready to go play golf. I'm standing in New York City, getting ready to go play golf with my buddy in New Jersey standing there SUV pulls up to the light when no rose down rich Eisen. I look up at Seinfeld at squat at it's I was totally. And he goes. Love yawn. Sportscenter love those suits, their cut their perfectly cut, and he made like his movement with his hands like they talk about how Taylor they were at and I was just I didn't know how to respond, like thanks. I honestly, don't recall, respondent, I was so dumbfounded. And then he looks at me, and he sees me standing next to my golf clubs. He goes. I street apart, three apar- full. At which like the light turns green and off it goes like a hit and run mine was my experience. Forget you just standing there like those sung failed? Of course, I called Susie. I know where he lives you should send a note. Let's become friends like always moving, by the way, she was right. Good news updates our. All right. When we come back, we will see how far ahead Brooks kept is further cheese on the leader board and how not far. Tiger is. Okay. And then we will update you on next week. Lot of great stuff in store for next week. Tons of great stuff in store for next week. 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That's crazy. And roar through warriors up three oh twenty seven percent. I don't see by the way, I don't see that. Yeah. Looks Portland gets one. I don't see that one Brooks. Capco wins the PGA Ducey that fifteen percent bucks up three oh game tonight. Milwaukee. Nine percent improbable wins the Preakness three percent. Yeah. I know. I mean who the heck knows based on who knows who knows? Hank did give us our picks to four. Four to five seven. Yes. Perfect. Two five is the thing is if you're looking to just play to horses to five, which is bourbon, Warren Owen Dale currently twelve to one in ten to one. Yeah. You know, in here, here's what I will say about game of thrones because the question is, what would be considered? What's going to be satisfying to satisfying to me is I'm done with the war stuff? Okay. You've given me all the blood sport and blood thirst, and Lance. There's no city. I've had that's no two wars and five shows and they've been incredibly shot. I mean it's been a visual spectacle, I I'm all I got it. I want what was so great about this show was the palace intrigue. There's no more palace. But the palace intrigue, the backstabbing, the drama, the politics, I want good character. Conversation and dialogue. That's what I want. And I want a surprise on who's on the throne. And I wanted an oh, you know, what moment, one more of them like a red wet like one more of them. Gimme one more. Well, who's LA? I mean, it would be John, killing Danny. Is that gonna be about would that would be one or any aria? Any of that. That's what I'm looking for doing. I don't want any war gang and raving and stuff. Confusing. Straight up big character political intrigue. Big stuff. We got to see some of the right. We gotta see San's. How long the finale is. But I'm hoping we come on eighty eight hundred. I'm like, okay, let's go. On next week show. We've got the PGA championship winner. Other words Brooks KEPCO will be on Monday show. 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Big Blue preView: Second half expectations

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Big Blue preView: Second half expectations

"What if all you're breaking news alerts had a voice what would that sound like it would sound like today? Explain its daily news podcast from vox. I'm Sean Ramos grim every day my team, and I take one essential news story, politics, two movies sports science, and we break it down into twenty minute episodes. Perfect for your ride home subscribed today. Explain on apple podcasts or wherever you listen from Stitcher, and the vox media podcast network. Hello and welcome to the big blue view podcast. I am Dan Zuhdi joint here by Chris. And we are coming to you in like the second half of the giants by we're now entering week. Ten giants are playing on Monday night. We're going to just be looking forward a little bit at what we can expect for the second half of the season before we get into that will just give you quick update on some of the things that have been happening with the podcast network. As most of you have probably noticed if you subscribe to the podcast. There has been a new episode uploaded. That was not Chris. And I it was at Valentine who runs biglou view. He is now officially part of the podcast network. So he'll be contributing probably two shows a week. So our show that has been a preview and recap show. We're. We're still gonna come to you two times a week. That's mostly going to be a recap episode after the games, and as of now our second show because of pretty much just how the giants season has unfolded. So far our second show of the week is going to start focusing more on college football and the NFL draft. I know it is early for that. But hey, that's kind of what we have to look forward to it will give us a little bit of a different look besides just repeating ourselves. A lot in the preview and review episodes, a will just be able to look at something new and something to look forward to you with that were probably going to have a new name for this show. A were still work shopping that we're still coming up with ideas. If you guys who are listening have ideas. For what this show should be named. That might be a dangerous thing to say. But please let us know you guys have some ideas. Maybe we'll take some suggestions. We are open to it. Just so we have a differentiation. So everyone knows what show is going to be mean, Chris what show is going to be ad just so when you see it in in your podcast apps, or however, you get your podcast, you'll just you'll know immediately. What show you're going to be listening to so we're going to get to that in a little bit? So when you start seeing some new names there too don't be too surprise. But for now, this is going to be the same show that we've been doing it's going to be Chris. And I talking about what is going on with the giants. And with that we're gonna see what's we can maybe expect what we're hoping to see in the second half of the season. And Chris that isn't a very optimistic. Conversation that we've been adding to this point. No, not really as you can probably tell from the fact that our preview show has moved right onto previewing what they can do after their season is finally over. Yeah. We do in a lot of that. Just kind of look at specific players will eventually look at different games and that'll become in later in the week. So I guess we'll we'll probably described that show more when we do that show waiter in the week. It will probably be similar to the podcast. We did with Mark Scofield that came out last week. Thank you to those who have listened to that show, we've gotten some really good feedback on that. And it was definitely a fun show to do. So we'll try to do more of that type of stuff with the show. But for now not much has changed since the last time, we talked to you guys. The giants are still one in seven because they had a bye last week. They did not play also. Nhs. They did not lose which only the second time this season that has happened is. But as we move forward they'll kick off the second half of the season against the San Francisco forty Niners on Monday night football Sipa. Cisco is coming off a game where they completely blew out Oakland. So maybe we'll talk about that game a little bit. But mostly we're just going to be talking about what we can maybe expect and hope for going into the second half of the season. One in seven right now football, outsiders has them with a twelve point eight percent chance at the top pick. A fifty seven point two percent chance at a top five pick the top. Pick numbers is the fourth highest top five big numbers is the fifth highest a so they are probably going to have a pretty high pick and think the one thing as we now look forward into the second half of the season. Whether this team is going to improve. Or not that might come just with the schedule the schedule might just ease up a little bit. And that my allow the giants to look a little better than they have even if the team isn't necessarily better a so- per football, outsiders has their past schedule. I as the seventh hardest so the games that have already been played looking back. That was the seventh. Hardest schedule in the league going forward. Now, they have the twenty sixth hardest schedule in the league. So that's a significant difference there. And as we go forward, it's going to be to keep that in mind as we just kind of look at the possible performance there's going to be for this team. So I think like we usually do with these previews will break down the offense, and the breakdown the defense a what we can try to look for and maybe hope for in the questions we have. So we can jump in the offense. And obviously, I think the the. We need to start is quarterback. The giants returned to practice on Tuesday. Pat, Shurmur said that Kyle will would not be suspended by the team for his traffic arrests last week. So I think that eventually opens the door for him to at least get some playing time in the second half of the season. Whether that's from starts or whether that's just getting into games. I if they're out of hand, which you know, they might be if they go with the same way giants games have gone, so far UI manning has been named the starter for the San Francisco game Monday night in week ten that's probably not a surprise, especially with the timing of everything that had to do with the. But there's going to be a time where I think that the move has to be made. Although when Shurmur was asked about it on Tuesday. He said the idea of sticking with manning right now is that we trust him and his comment was a let's go on a run here. So there's no decisions to be made that line right there tied to made me stop bit that kind of sounds like he's if the giants like start winning out, and they will stick with ally. I I don't think that's a good idea at all. I think even if they they're they're not going to go four into over the next six games or whatever. But even if they do I think you have to see all because I think you've seen the Thirty-seven-year-old UI manning. A maybe not the biggest problem, but still not something you want going forward for this team. I I don't think thirty eight year old ally. Manning in twenty nine thousand nine is going to be much better. So I think that the let's go on a run here. So there's no decision to be made. That's that's a troubling statement to me because I think. It's at some point. You have to see what you have in. Whether you believe he's the answer. Not. I mean, I'm not someone who does I think you still have to see him, especially when when you're looking at what your options are going to be going forward. Yeah. Unless maybe that Shurmur isn't quite sh- were or doesn't really believe that Lola is ready to put his best foot forward for lack of a better term or doesn't believe that he could show much of anything positive with the offense in the state that it's in. Yes, he is more mobile than Eli manning. But if the offense of line keeps hemorrhaging pressure like it has been they might be worried that the rookie could get shellshocked or just not even have the opportunity to impress them. So that could be where that's coming from. Or it could just be coachspeak and saying we want to win the game. We are hoping that ally gives us the best chance to win. Yeah. I mean, just at at some point I think you have to start seriously talking about how there is an issue that will eventually need to address did. Yeah. At at quarterback. That's something you're going to have to think about just hoping that suddenly elementary is going to be better. And it I mean, if we're being honest, he lamenting has not been great for a couple of years now. So I I don't understand how this like this magical idea that he's somehow going to be better. I'll looking at his so adjusted net yards attempt is basically yards. Attempt that factors in touchdowns interceptions and sacks. And I'm looking at his his rate stats where if you look at a hundred a hundred is league average above one hundred a percentage above the average below is whatever percentage below average. He hasn't had an adjusted net yards per attempt plus over a hundred since twenty fifteen so I don't know what he li- manning were waiting for Kenny play better than this. Maybe. But just this entire quarterback thing is something that really needs to be taken into account quickly. But as you look past that and what we have in front of him. And maybe part of the reason ally has been like he has been for the past couple years is the offensive line. So last week the giants actually made a waiver claim and took on John Brown from the Los Angeles Rams, which actually I is is. A really good move. So Brown kind of lost his starting job with the Rams this year because of a suspension for the first couple of games of the season. And then awesome Bligh from slid in and he's played pretty well. So the Rams really didn't have anywhere to put him. So they waived him the giants because of their spot on waivers of because of their record were able to claim them. He was apparently claimed by a couple of other teams giants had priority there. But he he could be pretty good. He so he played right guard for the Rams why she started all sixteen games over a thousand snaps only allowed one sack. I'm looking at his numbers per football outsiders in sports in both solutions here he had the fewest blown blocks on that Rams offensive line last season while playing the most snaps of those authentic vitamin so this is potentially a good piece. That could be added to this authentic line going forward and outright guard where the giants do definitely need some help. They need a lot of help. It would also let the move John Greco back to center, which would be an upgrade over Spencer poli who at times it looked last game. Like Brecqhou was trying to make the protections and pulley didn't have a whole lot of idea. What was going on? Which is not what you want from your center Brown might wind up upgrading to spots, which would be a significant improvement for the giant after surprise to me that they were able to get him. Because usually there are not thirty two or sixty four starting guards in the NFL. I mean, how many teams have starters that you look at and just should not be. Starters. Look at the giants. Yeah. So it's it's it's a price to me that a smart team and a team that has been intelligently aggressive like the Rams let a starter and a solid. Good star light Brown leave and not just let him leave but cut him. So the giants had to starting centers and let one leave and let the other one go. And now they're winding hole wind up hoping to be able to move an old guard back to center it. It's just a surprise to me that he was even a be claimed. It's potentially a quality of player that is not available in that way. Very often. This isn't like a a Sam Bradford or a even a Bruce Irvin. Both of whom were just released this past week by their teams who are maybe. He underperforming expensive options that probably aren't going to be claimed. This is a guard who has potential has already played well in this league Hughes who is third round pick in two thousand fifteen he has one year left on his rookie deal. And it's only a billion dollar campaign right now for the giants. So that's a type of move and type acclaim you should make a hundred times out of one hundred but day just rarely had it so this this could be a huge break for the giants as they're trying to figure out what the future of this authentic line could be. Yeah, we're not used to the catching breaks like this. But it could be one. Unless there was an actual reason, which we don't yet know why the Rams cut him. But right now than brace hope if feels good his two game suspension in the beginning of the year was because of violating the substance policy. I don't think we have a lot of details. What had happened in a statement released on Twitter, Brown, apologize and splendid? It was an isolated mistake eighteen months ago. So that was back in July. So this was apparently what had happened was a very long time ago. Obviously, there's not many details that come out in these types of situations. But he served a suspension came back. So you know, we'll see in last year. He played all sixteen games. So he had does have the ability to be healthy. And so definitely still the potential. I think maybe what we talk about the offensive line or we can talk about some some pieces we wrote this week. So you. You looked at some of the season mistakes. The giants have made I think you were kind of recapping Bill bardwell. Article on ESPN that showed the giants had some of the biggest mistakes in the off season. One of them was signing Nate soldier to his current contract. And then I wrote just kind of as a thought experiment. I think when we talk about the authentic line a lot. I think the common defense for one the the solar deal and this current state of the offensive line was that the what else could the giants have done. They had to go out and get help. So that means they pretty much had to overpay mate soldier. And that means the didn't have a lot of other options. So I just kind of wrote a piece trying to be as realistic as possible looking back at the options they had at the time of what first of all whether the giants could have rebuilt an offensive line in a year. And what that would look like. If they did. So in my piece, they come out with signing. Chris Hubbard in free agency to play right tackle. And then I just as they had drafted Quinton Nelson as second overall and also still taken will Hernandez in the second round. And then also the boarding of day two of the draft when it was rumored that the patriots antithesis go forty Niners. We're talking about trading Trent Brown as a giant probably could have just snuck in there often offered a better third round pick and come out with a left tackle there. I thought those were possibly reasonable things that could have happened at the time. I believe that comes out with a better offensive line. I think that comes out with some more flexibility going forward. Obviously, it's there's nothing the giants can do about it now. But I think that refrained that there's nothing else. The giants could have done. I don't totally believe that. And and I don't think it's helping anyone to to just say, oh, we'll get them in did all he could do he paid the top guy on the market. And that's what they had to do after coming away with that piece on them. Not sure I totally believe that knowing that was basically, the thrust of barn wells peace and my reaction to it from ESPN, which was an insider. He's so tried to just bring the relevant bits two giant fans. And basically the giants through good money after bad particularly with Nate solder and Patrico. Mommy, the Seahawks. Hiring Mike's Laurie who was the giants offensive line coach last two years and signing DJ fluker who was eventually after injuries. Forced Ben mcadoo's hand the giants right guard last year was rated as one of the. The best moves of off season because of the impact they've had on the Seahawks running game. And that was the thing that fluker brought to the giants. Because the about roughly five games he was able to start the giants fueled at one of the bull say most efficient rushing attacks in the league. They were averaging better than five yards a carry. And I believe I don't have the numbers in front of me. But roughly one hundred and three yards a game on the ground. And that was with an offense that had absolutely no commitment to running the ball. Even if it was working and fluker signed a deal that was one tenth the money. The giants gave Amami and only a one year deal as opposed to a three year deal. So that was obviously mistake and then going and making Nate solder the highest. Paid lineman in league history at least to that point. And as you pointed out, it it wasn't something. They absolutely had to do. Nobody had a gun to the giants. Head saying. Do this or else they have other options? It would have involved being a little bit more creative than just going after the biggest name on the market, but it could have been done, and it definitely would give them more cat flexibility. Where maybe they wouldn't have had to go in trade Brett Jones, and they could have had a natural center starting for them. Yeah. Of that is true in of course, hindsight is twenty twenty. But I think so requested these moves when they happened. I wrote a piece before free agency, I looked at the top ten free agents by position, and I wrote about the this solar and even mentioned Hubbard in that piece of what the difference in play was between the two and how different the price would be. And I think that was something that that could have been a realistic possibility. But I feel like the giants felt like they needed to make the big splash move to say, hey, we are. Doing something about this offensive line. I even though that hasn't worked, but that's bad. As the offensive line has been another thing. We've talked about on this podcast is just how the giants have not been super creative in trying to get around the offense of line. And that's another thing. I want to see out of this offense is hopefully see a widow bore creativity and bring some of the things that Pat Shurmur showed in Minnesota someone pointed this out to me on Twitter. They reminded me of post I wrote back in like January about how Pat Shurmur 's past offenses have not been super great. When you look at where they've ranked by Devia way. A lot of them are in the twenty s his best offense was second. But that came while he was under chip Kelly in Philadelphia and just basically everyone that was Kelly's that was that was chip Kelly his offense. No one credits. Server with that offense. Even though he was the authentic coordinator. That's like saying the giants. Offense is Mike Shula's offense. Right. Yeah. It's the same thing right now. And then he wasn't in the his only other season in the top ten was last year in Minnesota. So I wrote this and then I watched the Minnesota offense. And I bought it because I thought there was some things he had learned from that time. There were new schemes and new types of plays that he has brought in from everyone that he has worked with when I bought in. And hoping that the offense was going to look like something that more resembled Minnesota than whatever he had run in the past that just has not been the case, they're not running a lot of play action, which he did in Minnesota. They're not using a lot of pre snap motion, which he did a lot in Minnesota. I wrote a big piece about how will Pat Shurmur used motion to not only I mean, usually when you talk about motion, it's sometimes just trying to figure out whether the authentic is in. Man or zone. Whether someone follows the receiver or not when he's moving, but there's so much more than that. It can open up plays in and you get just misdirection. And it's definitely a piece that can be used to open up offense more. But if you look at where they have been with with motion by now, and the per sports info solutions numbers the giants have used motion on the ninth fewest plays in the league. They have six point three yards per attempt on pass plays where they've use motion and five point four when they haven't. So they've been much better emotion. That's actually one of the biggest gaps one of the biggest positive gaps in the league. And they still haven't used it. If you look at play action, they are only twenty seventh in the rate of play action. And while they haven't been great using play action. There seven point two yards per play is just twenty first it's still better than the six point eight yards. They have. On passes without play action. So these are just simple things that Pat Shurmur has used before their misdirection type ways that get the defense is off guard a little bit. They opened up things for the offense. They just make things easier for your offense. And they're simple things at this offense just isn't using. So when we get to the second half of this season. I want to see if they are going to use these a little more because they're just very obvious things that can help. Yeah. And even moving on from that, maybe have or not maybe they should be using Evan Ingram for things other than shallow crossers know where he can actually use that four four speed provided. He catches the ball. But that's some that's a different that's a different conversation. And might I think be influenced by just how few plays the offense as a whole or making. But again, different conversation. But you know, let him run vertically down the field use his athleticism use saquon Barclays athleticism as it stands. Now. He's tenth in the league among running backs in yards after first contact. So he right now is picking up more than tuna quarter yards after a defender hits him the touches him. The first time. If he's doing that. Why not let him have that first contact in the defensive backfield rather than the offensive backfield, which is a common refrain on this podcast. Let him run down the field before you throw him the ball. There are other things they could do like run more RPO's. Which would you know? It's a simple quick read done properly. They're practically free yards. They played it you lie. Manning strengths. Let him do that something I've been wanting to see since I don't know twenty twelve. Maybe even earlier why not incorporate the pistol they've they did that approximately once in the preseason. And I don't know that we've seen it sense. It offers a lot of the same advantages the shotgun. But. Also has a lot more versatility. When it comes to running the ball. There's things they can do that. They just haven't. And that's one of the things about Pat Shurmur, this disappointed me that he hasn't brought in the c- creativity and flexibility in his scheming that we really expected from them. That's been one of my biggest issues with what's been going on. There's just I just I would really like to see any sign of creativity. A going forward in the second half. I I don't know how how you trust. Whether there's a rookie quarterback or whatever next year, if if there's no creativity to get in this offense going right now, what's to say, there's going to be you know, next year. So in the second half of the season. I I definitely want to see more creativity. And there's there's no excuse as we look forward to what we're going to see against San Francisco man L Thursday night. They played Nick Mullins at quarterback. But they stuck to the Kyle Shanahan scheme. There were guys running wide open and again that was against in Oakland Raiders defense. That is absolutely terrible. If you look at adjusted net yards per attempt Oakland's allowing nine point five this year and Patrick Mahomes is nine point four five as a quarterback. So Oakland is allowing opposing quarterbacks to be slightly better than Patrick Mahomes this year, but still I don't think the giants would have been doing that against Oakland. I don't think it's crazy to say that I would not see the giants throwing light crazy against that raiders defense. If that was their time to do that uh. So, and I yeah, I just really need to see some creativity for this. I don't understand the way these these players have been used at when you have all this skill position talent that you have. I've said is great and debt. You have admitted is above like the weeds best at each position. But you're using them like you would almost any other player at that position. And that doesn't make sense to me at all. But I think we can we can move on. And so on the offense while we want to see some more schematic things happen and see some hope there when we know mostly the players are what you want to spend at least at the skill positions. I think we'll switch to defensive side. I think we just wanna see some new players and see what they can bring because that's somewhere where I think I have a little more competent in the scheme. I just have no idea. What players are going to be a part of it going forward. Yeah. On the defensive side of the ball. The questions are really all. All personnel. The giants have some pretty big money decisions to make over the last eight games of the season. You know, they have to decide on whether or not they want to resign or extend Landon Collins, he said today that the talks have not yet begun, which seems like could be slightly concerning, but the giants tend not to be in a big rush to extend players anyway. So that will that will happen in its own time. If it happens at all they have to decide whether or not they want to keep janoris Jenkins or cut him for decapa room that decision, you know, he's he hasn't been playing as well as he did in two thousand sixteen but he's still viable starting corner. And the prices of those guys are is only going to go up. So. His contract will get better as it in comparison to the rest of the league as time goes on. And you do need good coverage to run James Bechers defense. Otherwise. Bits blitzes Wilburn you. And then there's Livia Vernon who he's on a sizable contract of his own and the giants could decide to try to cut ordeal him for some cap relief. But then on the other hand who's going to rush the passer as we saw through the first six games of the season. They don't really have anybody else who could be primary pass rusher, or at least as it stands. Now. That's definitely true. Especially when you look at what they did when I wrote during the bye week just kind of how the rookies have played. I I kind of wrote how I'm kind of still holding out on the hype of Lorenzo Carter a just because of you know, he hasn't totally been affective to as a pass rusher. And I looked at just kind of pressure rates how many Pasha snaps and how many pressures these players have had Encarta was only three point five. But would you will get VA verb? He's at seven point five percent of his pashas snaps come with a pressure, and that's easily the best of the giants edge rushers right now, and you can see the pasteurized completely changed when Vernon came back. So I think they still have this balance of veterans and young guys that they need to mix in for the rest of the season. And and as we look to go forward Vernon's definitely going to be one of those guys. A we have some young guys some young guys that we know are going to continue to see playing time like or rental Carter alike BJ hill who we saw and one of those guys now who is going to be added to that defensive line his fifth round pick RJ McIntosh who was just activated. A from the NF I list on Tuesday. But the Chris I think this is going to be news to you. Because it actually just came up as we were getting to this topic. In order to create the roster. Spot for MacIntosh to be activated. The giants waived Quadri Henderson. Oh. Wow. Yes, I did not have my Twitter feed up and just they finally find a guy who can be reliable as returner, and they let him they got rid of him. I guess that means they really like she will Davis as that return guy. But I mean Henderson even in his his short time was was better than Davis was. Yeah. I don't know. I don't know why that was the move that had to be made. I mean Henderson Henderson was easily the best returner. They're on a team that did not have good returners in our latest round table. He was good enough. I listed him as a possible building block. Finally, they it took them three tries, but they were able to solidify that finally, well, I guess not not anymore back to the oval onboard back to unknowns in having very bad return. So yeah, that's that's breaking record this. But yeah, you would have thought Henderson was was. A piece even though he wasn't probably going to contribute at wide receiver at as a kick and punt returner, he was was showing more flashes than anyone had seen or anyone had shown so far this season. But as we get back to the defense, and there's there's the just the young guys. You wanna see wanna see grant Haley get more snaps, and he probably is if if the game against Washington is proof. He was the starter. He played a quite a bit. Did Sean Chandler had had a bigger role those were two undrafted guys absence after the bye now he's not exactly young. He's not one of the rookies still fairly young into Tony with Pat who was signed. He's still coming off that achilles injury. But he's had the weekend. He had a week and a half with the giants. Now, he has that by a we'll see if he gets on the field at cornerback now and those guys the undrafted guys Lapasset the giants need at least one of them to step up and look like they could be an answer at one of those spots either slot corner outside corner free safety because otherwise they've got. What an awful lot of holes to address, you know, maybe definitely more than they can address in one off season. If they don't come out of this season with any answers from the the young guys and maybe more than they can address this off season next off season if they have to tear down and rebuild the offense of line yet again and somehow try to find a quarterback, those are the positions. I think they're really bear the most watching over the last eight games or so. Yes. Absolutely. And when you talk about things you can't do in one off season finding like eleven new players to put on a defense is definitely one of them. I don't think there's there's any way we can get around that. And in the giants might be looking for. I mean, depending how the rest of the season plays out light. Like, maybe six starters. I don't know maybe at like four at the waist is possible. So it's it's there's going to be a lot of work there. A, but if there's things we're looking forward to for the second half disease in it seeing these young guys and who is going to contribute. I've said multiple times I have some high hopes for grant Haley it whether he sticks us law Kunar, they wanna use them outside. Probably is more likely to stay in the slot. A Tony lapenne is someone who I have liked. But we just don't know what he's going to be like coming off that achilles injury that he had caused him to miss the entire twenty seventeen season. So right now with the giants have on defense is a whole bunch of dart throws and a we don't know if they're going to hit the board or not let alone stick somewhere useful. That's what we're going to look for on on the defensive side of the ball. It's just seeing if. The of these players are going to be worth keeping around or if there's even more work that needs to be done for this defense going into the offseason. Yeah. The giants have a lot of holes they need to plug. They need some of these guys to step up, and unfortunately, more than a few of these holes are ones they made themselves. But that's what the second half of this probably lost season. His going before just an expanded preseason for twenty nineteen. Yup. That is that is what is going to be. So a couple of things at while we buy, unfortunately, while we might not be watching for a lot of wins. 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But he'll give us where the computers think. This season will go. Also Bill Conley some interesting retro reporting on the ways of yesterday in college football and Dana. O'neil on some of the new spending concerns that everyone is facing during uncertain times. We hope you've had a good weekend. We begin the program with very sad news from the world of sports don show or the. Nfl's winningest coach. He led the dolphins to a perfect season has passed away at the age of ninety years. Old He died peacefully at his home he has been one of the most influential people in NFL history and he also had a number of a kid who went on to Some notoriety His Sunday was the coach head coach of the Cincinnati Bengals and his son. Mike was the head football coach at the University of Alabama. He won three hundred. Forty Games and Coach of course the judge the Dow the dolphins to that famous nineteen seventy-two perfect season. That has many have gone after the Patriots seemingly pulled it off when they had another perfect season but it was law all for naught when they lost to the giants in the Super Bowl so He had a couple of other He all guided the dolphins to five super bowls and certainly a few losses along the way but He made his mark with a couple of super bowl. Wins early on and certainly a legendary figure? So that's where we are. We'll take your phone calls. Eight five five to four two seven two eight five eight five five. Two four to seven to eight five is our number. I guess we'll start piling in here pretty quickly as a busy week. is live and under way we start with. Gregg who is in Alabel afternoon? Paul taking my call and you let off the the store that I wanted to talk to you about. And that was the passing of Don Shula. And first of my condolences to the Schuler family. And I as a extra growing up in Alabama My senior in high school are marching. Band went to Miami to play at their fifteenth anniversary. And got a chance to meet. Don Shula and Bob Greasy and that was going to be bogged receives last year playing and He was Gracious to us all we got performed before and after the game and it was One of those moments always treasured growing up as a dolphins fan and he just made such a mark on the NFL. And the dolphins were one of those teams of the seventies And one of the things that I really appreciated about him on the coaching so I was at His ability to adapt to the changes on the field. When they took Dan Marino they had been a heavy rush team and he opened up the passing game and let Dan Marino do what he did and and served them well over the course of that career and and he was just a a monumental figure Paul and a really good human being and He's definitely setting out at the rushmore of of of football coaches no question and Had the occasion. You may not have been around at the time Greg to interview him. A number of times Long before his career was over. I did I ever talked about this piece. I did this in the mid eighties for a magazine. Sport Mega Sports magazine. I did a father son profile of two fathers who had two sons playing in starting college football at that time and and both the fathers one not very famous and one very famous agreed interview me as the two sons. Did I think you can guess that? Mike? Shula was the starting quarterback at Alabama at the time and Don was the head coach of the dolphins but the other ones even more Hard to imagine The father was I believe the head coach at some small school in the Mid West in his son was the starting quarterback at the University of Michigan. It was a story about the harbaugh and Shula families. That's Awesome I. I was During the the mid eighties of course I was deployed but Right before I went into sub school I was home and got to see Mike Shula Desirable Against Auburn and He was a you know timing electric player for Alabama and his connection course to his dad just made it all more special for me as an individual and He's one of those you know. Don is one of those few Coaches who lasted into the modern era football and What successful you know. In in Thirty Three Years of coaching he only had two losing seasons. And and that's something that's not talk about her. No well no you're right and unfortunately It did not end well but it doesn't end well for very many coaches terminator's in Tallahassee. You're next hey how you doing. We're doing right. I pretty much eulogized coach Shula. He really Spotlighted the state of Florida before any of the college national championships really or anything. The Dolphins won two super bowls in a row. And they were the first team to go to three super bowls in a row and I'll tell you know he. He was kind of a cross generational where he was part of the old and and and you knew he. He was quite a an innovator of many sorts. But you know you always knew when he did what he did in the seventies that that would be that's what he would be remembered for and of course that's exactly what we're talking about today. Jr is up next in Maryland. Jr. Thank you very much for the call. Great to have you on. Thanks Paul Let's see I was wondering Reading an article Where they quoted Dr Brian Hainline from the NCAA NCAA doctor right. He is a chief medical officer and he said what happens in contact sports like basketball or football when one of the players test positive does that mean quarantine and I think the answer is GonNa be yes to that. have And if you're lucky enough to keep your own team healthy You play the first game and After the week after the first game he find out that one of the players on the opposing team tested positive. Then you're GonNa have to quarantine your whole team and For two weeks so And no one's GonNa come in and play you after that if you've been exposed because they don't want to get their players Expose so You you're going to have to quarantine so A one scenario would be you. Divide your team up into an eighteen and a B team. They're equal in caliber and Completely split them apart where they live apart. They They split the coaching staff up. And they They train apart. They practice apart and so If they eighteen plays and if if if they have to quarantine because the opposing team then you got your beating. That can step in the next week and play a four ajar hate to rhyme. We're up against a break but we will talk about that as we get closer to the season. Your phone calls continue right here and a couple of guests on a Monday. You're listening to the Paul Finebaum show. Podcast we walk back on Monday. Real great to everyone there and it's also great to welcome back to our program Dane. O.`Neil with the athletic and she's certainly written about many many aspects of college athletics including some of the issues currently facing the sport and the sports editor. Thank you great to have you back on. Thank you for having my pleasure. Well it's so interesting to think about all the things that were going through and also the financial issues and you have done some some very cool reporting here about what everyone is facing this current in this current crisis Take us through what you learned. And maybe As important where where we all going. Yeah I think my approach was like look. Everyone is talking about Budget concerns and they are legitimate. I mean I try to discount any of them you know I saw Cincinnati had cut soccer You know I've seen that some some commissioners had asked for some relief from the NCAA. About how many sports they could sponsor and so. I just started to kind of turn the table around my head. We'll you know where are some places that these budgets have some fat and I went through all these schools have to issue every year at the end of every fiscal year. I think people presume rightly so football makes funny and therefore football Kinda gets a pass and I understand that to an extent but when you really look at some of the line items in the budget is sort of ridiculous where some of the money is being spent and you sit there and think well if not now when you know but you look at this crisis and say all right at least for a year. Let's cut back on the training. Djabel or let's not have a bazillion support staff on this team The football team and that was sort of my approach so I don't know that other athletic directors are are there yet. We'll ever get there. Because it's it's sort of a sacred cow right. Nobody wants to touch those. Those numbers but There is fat to be trimmed. Yeah well and you're right you walk around the the major football programs in the country and we. We know we're most of them are just look at the College Football playoff every year. And you know they have room They've run out of room for all the consultants. I'm not sure that that's really where the expenses but You found that money is being spent. I saw a number in your article that Especially with the University of Alabama. Of course they they. They're only you only have one hundred seven billion dollar budget for ongoing renovations at Bryant Denny Stadium and which brings me to a totally different issue. We're talking about you know. Everyone making their stadiums larger better and of course. We don't know exactly how many people are going to be in any state but I wonder how many How many of these programs which were spending like there was no tomorrow now going? I mean there are not many are not even have done with with their projects. Are they know they're not? And that's that's happening all over the place there. I Know Alabama for one certainly as you said is kind of it project right now obviously it. Kinda can't leave Lou the coliseum. You gotta finish it so you can't leave it as a construction But it I'm sure at some schools. At least you would think that these palaces that were getting constructed or renovated that had only been renovated maybe five years ago and now it costs more money or wondering. Oh what do you can't undo what's done but you know we're all used to it. I think I think that was my point. We've all kind of got numb to what's done and and it's like Oh we report about you know Clemson. Has You know golf little Golfing Lazy River and all these things and we laugh because it's cool. 'cause Clemson wins then you step back and you're in this massive budgetary crisis you know like could they live without the Lazy River for maybe a year. I don't know I'm just thinking perhaps you know. Cut that out a little bit or or cut the training table. So it's you know you still get plenty of food. I understand that student athlete welfare but I don't think that was intended to be two million dollars at the district canvas if football team on campus. I think those are the numbers I was talking about. Just sort of the astronomical unnecessary expenses at least for the immediate future. If not the long term future I know in in your piece. You talk about One Program Oklahoma paid gymnastic coach. Nearly three hundred thousand dollars sounds enormous. But it really isn't when you compared to what everyone else is making. I know that This was not your your main project but as you as you go through. And in talking to various people what's the level of concerned about having to start slashing and not not not so lazy rivers but programs. Well I think everyone says the same thing. It's the last thing we want to do. that's you know. Nobody wants to have because they know you know the alumni and the and the fans that support those programs get really angry angry Sandy Barbara. The athletic director at Penn State was at cal when cal tried to cut five programs. The backlash was ridiculous. To the point that the the alumni came in essentially save those programs so everyone knows that. They don't want to do that and they don't have to do that. But there's also this sort of what else are we going to do after a while and the other thing you can consider. Even if they don't cut a program you can cut a program to the point where the budget you know you slash so much out of the budget that it becomes almost impossible for it to function in a competitive way. I mean so you can. You can outright eliminate a program or you can just sort of take little bites out of it so much that it's it's the same as cutting it out of out of your you know your your department so. I think there's a reluctance to do it but I don't think there's a absolute refusal if necessary we're talking about budgets and certainly we're college athletics are right now and it. Hasn't we haven't seen much of it but we will and just Maybe to step back a little bit Dana just in the reporting and you cover the sport every day. What what what are the various layers or levels of concern based on the contingency plans that we're all contemplating and discussing every day especially in relation to college football. Yeah I mean I think it's it's sort of the one thing I think there is concrete agreement on is that they have to play college football within the fiscal year. So that means a spring is still a viable option if they can play the you know. 'cause 'cause budgets are done within the fiscal year if they can play a college football season in some capacity in this school year. It's not gonNA fix everything. But that is a save a huge save per pretty much every institution out there but the question becomes you know what is Fair and equitable. I mean those are the questions that no one has the answer to because I think what what the problems are number one. What is good for new? York is not necessarily going to be good in you know in South Carolina so syracuse may not be able to play football. But you know. Virginia Ken is that. How do you make that work And I think there's a recognition that you know a fan Lewis Football stadium if that's the worst case scenario and we have to go that route Lee TV revenue. And all that. That's important you lose a ticket. Revenue but there is also a recognition at least among some athletic directors that I talked to that football. Yes it's dollars and sense but it's also a community thing. A lot of students attend programs or universities based on the community aspect of attending a football game. You take money out of their students. He used to pay for all these things. And there's no football season you know it's not the end of the world where kids they'll survive but people are at least aware that it's not just dollars and sense you're taking away. It's a viable opportunity for other students. It's the economic impact for these small college towns who otherwise don't make a lot of money So there's a lot I don't. I don't envy up directors right now or conference commissioners. I really don't because I don't think the decisions are easy and we're all sitting here today wanting an answer for something that frankly. Nobody has the answer for because there's no vaccine. There's no treatment yet so it's an impossible question to answer but yet they have to plant for every sort of scenario and I'm not not no one is really tired of anything that's moment world. We're tired of everything. But I am curious. Dana in relation to that question and we ask it every day. Here you ask it. Everyone asks it but we're now in May me. You can't say we don't know for too much longer. Can you know I think honestly? I can't fathom how they don't come up with a plan in some way in place. You know the end of June at the latest. I mean the way I look at is I think of this first of all. I'm a parent of a college freshman. Who hasn't moved out of her dorm yet. Going backwards. You know. New Students can't move into the dorms until my daughter moved out of the dorm. And that thing is like clean like it's never been cleaned before right so that includes athletes. Who until you get the current students out? The new students can't event so that's got to happen Which means those steps have to be getting done now and then you can finally open the dorms up to other suitors including athletes And you have to get them physically trained and able and safe So yeah I think you know next month. There's gotta be some sort of a a decision has to be made and I don't know they're gonNA make it. I honestly don't I mean I. I would hope that for once that you know everybody gets together. I know you Know College. Football is it doesn't have a president so to speak but they sort of need to come to. I would think mutual agreement. I hope they don't do this. This is good for our conference and the hell with your conflicts. You better believe it David. Thanks for coming on really appreciate it. Great reporting and be. Well thank you and hope your your child gets home soon. Thanks take great to talk to you. Dana Neil joining us anymore guests on this very busy Monday afternoon including your phone calls next. You're listening to the Paul Finebaum. Show podcast south. We are back great to have you here on a Monday. Pat in George's of Nex. I'm truly sorry to hear about Don Shula. Paul I I really am. I enjoy listening to The three Amigos call in and I think you you are indeed a very gracious host to all of your callers including Do you think you would you? Would you happen to remember? The flying will emphasise Yes I do. Remember them Well I've been thinking about them over the weekend There Patriarch Call Carl German descent of join the circus at the ripe old age six and they're known for performing without a net and I got to see him at the Lula Gorge in northeast Georgia and also in the area in San Juan Puerto Rico But they took small slow steps and they had a thirty foot pole that they used to balance and where. I'm going with this. The the fifty governors of our fifty states. I think they're on a high wire. Act Right now and I do not think that they have a thirty foot pole to help them balance. And and I truly believe that that the citizens of their states right now performing without a net and and I say that to make the point all of our all of your listeners out there and I'm one of them that If we do not respect overnight tate and and let me repeat that if we do not respect over nineteen over nineteen is going to kill you or it's going to kill someone you look and and I'm sorry that that's the way it is right now but I just think it's important to that message get after well. I'm glad to hear it and I've heard I've heard it all as you have. Heard politicians and ministers and lay people alike all say different things about it and I've tried to allow all all different views on this program without getting too hung up on on. What the right one. Because I don't know I do know that in the end you can only protect yourself and your family as best you can and you hope that someone else out. There is not making a foolish decision. that that will end up changing other lives It's as simple as that. You know. Yes you're you're absolutely right and and I know that she's heard this before. And you know about my family history but the hippocratic oath is basically. Do No harm and right now. I think it's tough for all of us to do. No harm yeah it. It's IT'S DIFFICULT. It really is Have you had a chance to think about what Game Day's GonNa look like next year either for ESPN or for the SEC network I don't know I mean it's it's it's it's one of the better questions Going because Certainly you can't do it the way it's been done. Yeah if if you're an Athens We're in the crowd. We've got signs. Were yelling and screaming when the make noise Signed COMES ON WE'RE JUMPING UP and down I mean it's and and if if it's an away game we get up in the morning and we turn it on at nine o'clock or ten o'clock in the kitchen in the end and I mean it just leads up to kick off and yeah I really am I. I'm sure the people in charge of those shows and I haven't talked to any of them Pretty far removed net right now are have to be concerned but they also don't know what the schedule looks like a football so. I think as they get closer. I'm sure you those are those are critical programs so I just don't I'm gonNA sound like all these people I interview. I don't know the answer. Well I certainly understand and thank you for. I can tell you where I where I wouldn't want to be in one of those crowd right now. Well that's the tough decision that people would have to make and the eight back. I'm getting his most. There's a lot of Georgia's out there. By the way we had a blue angels and thunderbirds fly over Sunday afternoon. They flew over all hospitals in Atlanta and they went to noon and flew over a hospital in Noonan Because our two grandsons Scott. Got To watch them. They were standing in the hospital. Parking lot watching them fly over but I think most Georgians are saying well. I can do this but I don't WanNa do it right now. I I'm just not consummate until we until we get out of our out of our homes right. I is going to be hard to think about anything. I'll say. Thanks Pat Ja- Jake is up next. Hey Jake how's it going? It is great. Thank you guy. I was sitting here thinking about you and back long long years ago I was listening to the Eli Go. Show the one much caught radio or anything back then but there was a guy that wrote in the newspaper and he was the first one come in criticize Obama and for anything I if he criticized Alabama anything he got murdered. You know but he kept going his strong. He filled in for easily. I go when not listen to him and I have listened to you every since and I remember when Jim I came on your radio station and I thought what an idiot and he still proven that he is and there's there were so many great people said Yeah. You know something about that. That was my first radio job Ui Gold was a friend of mine. He was a voice in Nascar at the time this is before he did Alabama and he he he would go to Daytona every week To Do Nascar live show and asked if I could fill in for him and that led to a regular show called. You're ready for this. You remember the name. It was called fussing with Finebaum and and Let me tell you it was a it was a hard core show and a lot of people that listen now would not have recognized but there were there were no sacred cows on this show lasted about a year and then I eventually left to go to another station and I don't think I did a talk show for a couple of years until I started doing one in the morning. 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Always there for you with savings and twenty four seven access to licensed agents back here on a Monday afternoon. Everybody feeling great. Jim is next. You know I'm GonNa try to stay calm all but it's it's not easy when you allow that you know is a lie You know the Bible says that the section will cause is what it will cause God to literally stopped the world in the world. Because they'll be so many deceived even his leg. We'll be to see that's what this this. That's what's going on in America right now but let me get to the point. You know this guy. Jay had no knowledge of me or your show when I first got on the show and he said he heard me the first day I got on the show and he said I was an idiot. Then and I'm still anita. Did you heard that right? I know you're not going to believe this but I'm not sure I heard him say that. Well I don't doubt that he did but uh let me. He started at Saint. Paul I heard your show from the first day he was an idiot. Then I was more. I was more thinking about what he said about. Today's with goal to. I'd probably miss that when I was sometimes. If you don't mind keeping everyone well maybe you can straighten. Yeah if he will. Now you can straighten my first call. You're right about my first call. I know you remember it. I talked about my. Yeah no I do. I do remember it was about nineteen years ago and you were calling about Mike Goes. I mean you talked about Mike. Dubose talked about a guy told me to get on your show and I told him I was. Well he said you'll it and so I went on and called you and I did like for a while but the point. Is You know that that food jake is a liar. He never heard your show. And you know for a fact ball. Not I call you raved about well Jim I have to tell you. I don't think I really heard what he said. because I because but that's okay I remember talking to you. It was around ninety nine two thousand after Mike Dubose. Three where he does wasn't the coach in two thousand and three. I didn't I know I know he wasn't talked about him. Because you had gone and I thought well okay. I thought you would call it after dubose went around preaching and I went to one of his sermons. Something that I could be wrong. Hey I'm not as young as you cannot talk. Why don't you keep interrupting me talk? I haven't said a word. Go ahead were. You said. Every time I started out you start interrupt me. I called because guy told me I said I don't want to call sign bad things about the guy. I love his articles in the paper. I love and I did. I love those are when I heard. He's a you know what he he's a a definitely a hard guy to talk to and he'll criticize and the guy said no way he said. Let me do what he did. He said he went to he went and did a great interview with Mike Devotion wide and he air and I said Okay and he told me all about so sounds good. I'll call them. That's why I call it. I mean that's why I called you and I got on the air. Even finished called the next day and raved about me show saying did and you did now. That's a fact by the minute or not making the point the point. I'm making his you know everybody knows that that. I'M GONNA sound like Didi sits in but I wasn't an idiot. The first day didn't sound like he no. I remember the topic but I do not remember the year so the article on dubose his wife in the nineteen ninety nine. Oh No that's not what I called about seventeen years ago but the but the ears irrelevant. That guy was doesn't he didn't even know existed and he wasn't a collar of the show with allow what he made up. But the main point what would you admit? I wasn't an idiot. The first time I called I will. I will raise my hand. Admit that yes that's clarified but that food just got out here like so many other. Aso's and live okay. I mean I. We're wasting time talking about a caller that I've already forgotten three minutes. Probably show about it because of that but anyway I wanNA clarify that. Thank you love from? Yeah Greg Confederacy Paul. I what you just did. There was a bat is cheapest palm readers trick on side of the road with Big Palm painted on board. I mean you don't remember anybody's I call now if you're going to feed debate and say what I was talking about. This and I was wondering why shoe. That's winning the White Shoe Shoe. I've got here's I did. Remember his first call the subject of it and I thought it was four years earlier but apparently it wasn't well and but it didn't you know I've listened to a caller earlier talking about the Kobe. Nineteen viruses and people on a tight rope and everything and and you know. I think we're going to be okay. I think what we've been through as a society in this country when people start leaving their homes. I I believe they've got a lot more respect for what's going on because even if they've got questions they're going to be cautious and I believe we're all gonna be okay and and where there'd be some issues probably so and then they'll be recorded as issues and people believe that in of people believe other things but I think we'll be okay as a society with the practicing in the way we've ripped last You know probably talking about Memphis you have the day and Memphis is a really cool place for people to go visit. You Know Memphis when I was there several times. I got the feeling that I wouldn't mind living in the Memphis area because there's a lot more going on than just memphis suburbs as opposed to maybe New Orleans. I like New Orleans but I never got feeling I wanted to live there but memphis coup place and there's a lot going on at minutes and You know a lot of history and and things going on. Would you agree with that It's a fabulous city. Yes I mean and and you know to To go to some of the most predictable places. I mean if anybody ever gets the opportunity. Of course you've got graceland some studios all kinds of things. There go door duck king was assassinated because that will blow your mind. That is Laurie. It will blow your mind the closeness if you've if you've kind of followed the different documentaries and stuff in a little bit about some of the details it is shocking. It was stunned when you're back there and if it doesn't grasp you buy your heart and target you then I guess there's other things but you know fifty years goes Paul. What happened. Ken State Absolutely. It's incredible it was caught in song such a way that that it will always sold harmless Nixon's coming. Yeah and if you knew and you found her dead on the ground you know it was an amazing time. I will tell. I Sat Nick Sabin Office one day and he was a student on the campus that day and he. He told exactly what he was doing. He was having a hamburger at the cafeteria with another football coach. Remember which whether it was Gary Pink or somebody else and And he heard all the commotion and for those who see certainly easy easy to find but it was a pretty amazing was were they national guardsmen. I think that's what it was national. They were The Vietnam War Protests. And they just started shooting into the crowd. It was see you recommended that that thought dislike. I remember it on the news and I was just thinking while you were telling me that I mean just that instant as you were telling. That story takes the news that we heard then was news that we had we could believe in and we can trust it whether we liked it or not. We believed it and we trusted. I mean we're up against the break back with more.

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