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ET - Pete Way Tribute

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ET - Pete Way Tribute

"Thank you for listening to this podcast one production now available on Apple podcasts podcast one spotify and anywhere else you get your podcast. Since nineteen eighty three Eddie truck has been the voice for fans of rock hard rock and heavy metal of bestselling author host of TV's that metal Shell and seven national radio shows including trump nation daily on Sirius. Xm. Interesting Eddie offers the world is news making interviews, passionate analysis, honest commentary and who knows what else. So welcome to the any trunk podcast. Hey, everybody. It's trunk and welcome to the trunk podcast with new episodes. Every Thursday at podcast one, dot com spotify or apple podcast. Hope you have a great week. Thank you for listening. Thank you. For, subscribing, and checking out this podcast. Every week and listening around the world wherever you are doing it. I greatly appreciate it. So, this week something special for you something, I? Wish I did not have to do. But you will hear as I promised you last week on the podcast a special tribute today. To the late great bassist of the band ufo Pete Way Pete Way passed away I. Guess at the time you hearing this it would be about a week and a half ago. Anybody that knows me knows I am an enormous ufo Fan Pete Way was one of my all time. Favorite. Bass. Entertainers characters, performers, and you know the the big takeaway with Pete's death which look if you knew the way, Pete lived his life I it's not. Entirely, a shock to say the least that he passed away at the age of sixty nine years old because he was quite notorious for the way he lived. But the most amazing thing for me since Pete passed away is the out crying of love and support. And it just shows the influence. This guy had on so many musicians many of whom went on to have much much greater success and I loved seeing that you know ufo as a band that. I'm extremely passionate about and. To See, all the artists that have reached out. Via Social Media and talked about the influence and the impact of the band and Pete has been truly truly remarkable an awesome to see. So to that end when I found out that Pete had passed away. I. Wanted to dedicate a show to him and I did. And I had a ton of artists. With interest in being a part of this tribute that you're about to hear including people that played with Pete whether it be in Ufo or the band wasted. and. As you know and as I tell you guys every week. Interviews you here on my podcast almost every week originated on my Sirius XM radio show which is called trump nation and heard on volume. Channel. One Oh, six every day. Monday. Through Friday live to four eastern. There's nightly replays ten to midnight eastern an audio and video on demand on the APP. So as I always tell you if you're in the US or Canada I, really hope you join me for the daily show and get involved in and here it every day because honestly I can't stress enough. You're getting a tiny fraction of what I generate every week in interviews and talk and calls with my audience here on the podcast. This podcast is for folks who don't have serious or Xm. If, you're in the US. Hopefully, it convinces you to come on board or in Canada for that matter and obviously people outside of the US or candidate you can't get Sirius Xm. So this is another way to just share the content with everybody, but you're getting a tiny sample and I gotta tell you. What I'm bringing you this week is pretty much the entire tribute to Pete Way, and it features some people who immediately came to mind when I heard Pete past who I knew were big fans Joe Elliott, Def Leppard Joe, and I bonded over our love of Ufo a time ago. So Joe was a natural person for me to reach out to and as you're about to hear in this tribute. He was brilliant as usual. Also, a guy whose name always came up as being hugely influenced by Pete Way was Nikki six of Motley crue from the base he played the way he played onstage to the way he dressed immediately when it was revealed died, there were several people that said man, you know Nikki six Nikki six, Nikki six I reached out to Nikki as you're about to hear Nikki was nice enough to generate to donate his time to come on the air and talk about Pete Way. The other guy I think of all the time with ufo is Mike McCready from the band Pearl Jam Years. Ago Mike was on that metal show and Mike and I bonded over our mutual love of UFO. Mike, McCready even has a ufo tribute band called flight to Mars. That plays a few times a year. You'll hear from Mike McCready in this show and last, but certainly, not least, the man himself speaking of influence one of the most revered guitarists ever. That is Michael. Schenker Michael called in from his home in England to share some thoughts on his former bandmate Pete Way and all of these guys were awesome. You're GONNA hear. All four of them in this podcast if you already heard this when it aired and you have Sirius, Xm here's another chance to revisit it and for everybody else please listen and enjoy and you'll get a sense at just how important? Pete. Way was to so many people and how unbelievably influential he was and for me you know it really really sucks because. As such big UFO Fan, it's been a brutal run here I losing Paul Raymond last year then losing Paul Chapman a former member of the band who's records I also, absolutely love. And of course, he passed away. I guess it was a couple of months ago now. And now, Pete Way who was not contrary to what people think he was not currently in Ufo at the time of his death he had not been able to play in the band for about fifteen years. He had major visa issues again, not to sugarcoat at Pete had his problems and how does issues but the one thing you hear about him constantly was sweetheart sweetheart of a guy a wonderful guy a kind guy a nice guy and I think that's pretty admirable. Especially given the demons that he battled with substances. So you'll hear that reflected in these interviews as well. So we're going to take them. You know as they come, we're going to roll right through and we're going to bring you four major guests, all celebrating the Great Pete, way, of Ufo, and I always hoped and dreamed that one day we'd get one more strangers in the night. Reunion show now with Paul Raymond Gone and Pete Way gone that obviously will not be possible but. it's great to to to remember Pete and we touch on some of the stuff he did with wasted to abandon. I really really loved also. So rest in Peace Pete Way and Oh, yeah. Before we get to these interviews just here at the top of my open here on this podcast, I do also want to mention the passing Frankie Bonaly. who was a dear friend had been on my show many many times especially in recent times while he was battling pancreatic cancer and I did too big interviews with him in the middle of his battles and the way he took on that cancer and the way he handled himself throughout was simply remarkable. Frankie was a tremendous musician a an even better person I think I pretty much of known him since one, thousand, nine, hundred, eighty, three when he first started with quiet riot with mental health and. I did do a big tribute. To Frankie and I actually broke the news of his death and that would have been a week ago Monday or I'm sorry a week ago, Friday. It would have been last Friday because I learned about his death from his wife the previous night she said, we'd like you to put the news out and I signed onto my Sirius Xm show and basically let the world know that Frankie had passed away and it was a very very tough show and Regina called in to it again if you have Sirius xm hopefully, you heard it if not it's on the APP and I hope you get a chance to listen to it because we had so many great callers and fans just Calling in saying how much they loved Frankie and quiet riot and all the other work he did outside a quiet ride as well he was a dear friend, he will be missed my condolences to all the band members that he performed with his family, his friends, his fans. Maybe at some point, we will do more with Frankie and about Frankie like I said, I did dedicate an entire show to him that aired on Sirius, Xm and I. Hope you had a chance to hear that if you are in the US or Canada and. Subscribe so I did not want this episode to go by without mentioning that. But this one features a lot of major artists and I think you guys are going to enjoy and learn a little more about Pete Way Man what a year twenty twenty has been right. I mean just absolutely horrendous with all the stuff everyone's dealing with, and then you throw on top of it some of our icons and heroes from our favorite bands passing away. Truly truly tragic. So let's take a break. We'll come back. We'll start rolling through the interviews. Here, on the Eddie Trunk podcast remembering way. Well, here we are on lockdown. How're you? It's Booker of the Perez Hilton podcast with Chris Booker we get it. We know your board were still doing shows from keeping you up to date with everything entertainment a little bit of relief from everything that's going on in the world could get the show on spotify. You could get it on your apple podcasts or podcast want out whatever you downloaded, subscribe and get the PHP the breast. Hilton podcast with Chris Booker and everything that's entertainment will be covered. Welcome back. To the trunk Podcast, a special show remembering Pete. Way As was done on my Sirius. XM radio show about a week and a half ago. WE START OFF. With. Mike McCready guitarist of the band Pearl Jam. Such a huge ufo Fan. The actually has a ufo tribute. Appreciate a few thoughts from Mike McCready here you go on the Eddie Trunk podcast. Mike been too long I wish it was under better circumstances but thanks for taking the time out for a few I really appreciate it. You got it. Now it's been a long time. So I haven't gotten back for a while and then what's so crazy these days. So anyways I'm so sad about. Pete Way, dying of course, you know it's just thank you for having me on. Appreciate it. Yeah. And one of those days when you. When you have time man, I'd love to just do a whole show you. We can talk about anything including. UFO. But I know you're busy and it's crazy times for sure but Mike. Are you for you talk about the importance you know what's interesting for you and you you said this to me with tax overtaxed you and stone often talked about Pete Way. Now, of course, you're a guitar player, but but Pete obviously made a huge mark on you as well beyond obviously where most people look at when it comes to Ufo for a guitar player Schenker Shankar Pete was a big mark on. Youtube right. Yeah I mean if you look at if I can go all the way back to I the my metal band shadow you know that we've talked about with Rick and Chris Friel and back in those back in the early eighties somehow our neighbor of ours had that strange tonight record and It might have been right around eighty one and it was just something about that record kind of changed my life in terms of I, would I remember just sitting back and putting that record on and I always put the way across the room so I could see what they look like when you open it up is there was pixellated. In the middle of it so but but that was that's just one kind of memory of that and I remember we used to actually trade you picture stone had was around that time to. Show and he was we're all hanging out together and then he would he had this Michael Schenker poster and I'll get the way. That we all wanted and so we would trade rock pictures back in the day when you're like fifteen sixteen, whatever and a lot of them were Ufo with Pete, way and Shankar, in them and and it was just a big deal but the more than that was the music you know and also the look p way had those stripy spandex wanted have that look too. So I like you know it sounds so trivial but it's we thought they look cool as hell and we love their music. So in terms of influence on us. You know he was a great groovy Bass player he an anti Parker just had a killer group you know and if you listen to love love the beginning of that song to anything that live record or it's all, it's all the Dandy and P with that group, and then the killer singing and then the incredible guitar playing Michael Schenker. Aware of all that back when we were kids, you know he was. We we all kind of like you know wanted a wall we wanted to go to be bigger than they you know ever were. Yeah I mean that to me, that's what's incredible about all this. I was just saying the audience before you came on the air no matter who you are no matter what band how big or small the band is over the weekend you saw so many people eulogized in some way Pete and talk about how important he was I think is really interesting about that is you and I may be huge Ufo fans but let's be honest never became a household name they never broke. They never went over that huge commercial hump but the mark in impact and influence they had is undeniable. There's not a person in rock that didn't say something about Pete Way this weekend and what a what marquee left. Yeah I mean he's you know he's one of the just had the cool. Style of playing bass and he was kind of a maniac he jumped around the stage. I'm the only time I saw him was on the the sort of the mechanics tour and it was our Shankar We all hung out and wreck in all the guys in the shadow down we and we met him after the show and he was a sweetheart and signed autographs for everybody and I really like that record mechanics. But you know, of course, I really loved the Shankar stuff but that was never gonna come back and how that maybe he stayed out row maybe they would have gotten as big as as van Halen or all the bands we've had wanted them to be. Including thin lizzy that they should have been vigor to. So. anyways, it was very sad because that he had passed and like you I remember you wanted to see this as I was this reunion of all these guys you know with Shankar and Pete Way, and the original line up that it's just sad that can't happen. Yeah I mean I had literally dreamed of that one last time of stranger show and I've talked I talked to them about it and I mean that with all respect to the current lineup of the band because I really do they made some great music with Vinnie more? Killer Guitar Player for sure yeah. But you know no doubt but and I hope they do something with Chapman because I love the chopping records and just in the last year and a half we've lost Paul Raymond Paul Chapman Yeah now Pete on Friday. It's just it's just horrible as a ufo Fan at the Mike. Did you ever meet? I. We, will they met. In Yeah around the mound mechanics after the show and You know it was a great show. I, love the I like the record while Willie and and the mechanics records You know I didn't I didn't have a chance to see them when they came through with Shaker I don't know if they came to Seattle on that tour. Or what I've been old enough to go see it. But yeah, I did meet him and he was real nice. He signed autographs or US and So yeah, it was it was it was really cool. You know of course you're meeting your heroes and you're like matter hope their cruel and you know clearly he was he was like you know he's the seventies rock star partied. He was cool looking and he was a really cool band and All of had their you know Phil Mogg had his incredible voice and and and certainly Michael Schenker was undeniably one of the best players around and still is, but he you know stuff like artery hill and. I love that kind of stuff I'm gonNA knock off on a Shankar Tangent right now. But you know all of those guys together made made that era of phenomenon and that that era of records were pretty incredible. You know and and should have been bigger but we're also a huge influence on a lot of people in Seattle and You know we haven't talked about that a lot. You know stone and I was very India. And I've got some interviews coming up after you today and there's those some of them are prerecorded. So I, know what's coming up but Joe Elliott the case that the the run of UFO records from phenomenon forward through like that early eighty stuff is one of the best runs of catalog top to bottom great records that regardless of lineup changes that you could almost make an in music history. He said it's and he's right if you go phenomenon through like for my tastes making contact. The songs just consistently amazing and Pete had a big role in that too because I don't think people realize that Pete did contribute to the songwriting of UFO and he also was a producer he produced twisted sister's I record. He was he did some other things that people aren't fully aware of but. Sleeping Beauty. That's right. But remember the. Way. Yeah, I haven't been getting that record when it came out 'cause he produced it, I've just forgot about that. Thanks for reminding me of that. But yeah, I mean he had wasted with the guy thin and that was a pretty cool record I. Remember that record came out. We all love amazing record vices. Yeah. Yeah. Bites right now. And so on but Anyway. So I Yeah. He asked us on right or you know you listen to Cherry it starts off with a base or yeah it's just you afo. A with with Pete, way. You know and that lineup again or any of those lineups who you know they're very integral in my learning of how how to be in a rock band and things like that and Joe Elliott's those records are fantastic. You know that's better on the time I got into DEF LEPPARD. I was into them. We went and saw them at eighty two if p Willis at the at the theater, you know wait now all day to see that show that was a great show. So along with those guys new haven new wave of British heavy metal ufo's little before. But that was a big thing on me learning how to play guitar but that whole era. and Michael went and the interview coming up with Shankar that I recorded yesterday. Michael, brings up a great point to about he said that in his view everybody looked at him as being of the star of Ufo, as the guitar player and needless to say Michael's impact is enormous. But from Michael's vantage point being in the band, he said he always looked at to pete as being the star of the band because he said when they. Played live as great as fill is as a lyricist and singer and green is Michael, is he said it was really pete that worked stage and would really almost direct things up there. In the way he moved and he said that was a really important element that brought. Because he was the motion he was sort of the ringleader up there and he's totally right. Even if you look at old UFO videos, I sent you an old bootleg. To today. Yeah I mean it's amazing to see. That energy in that giant base in that neck coming out and just the way stop around the old thunderbird day and. But he could keep the groove while doing all. That's the most important part is like you can run around and be a great showman, but you gotta be able to if you're playing bass gotta be you know keep the groove. So the rest of the song can be you know that can be incredible like it again, if listen to rock bottom tonight, it's. Just. Talking the group is endless on that and then Shankar's just as the most beautiful soul on that and it can go on forever in terms of that record but Yeah I didn't realize he was at the in terms of like Michael saying that's pretty pretty cool. But you can see in those pictures needs jumping all around. You know he's into. Known how many's Rockstar you know what I mean like like everything you wanted in a Rockstar as a kid growing up in the seventies I did you know? and Shankar in UFO. Louisiana era. You know yeah. No doubt Mike. I won't keep you much longer, but before you go. If someone's listening to this and they don't, and because I run into this constantly in my screaming about UFO and praising ufo TV radio for decades. Now people say to me, I don't really know that Ben where do I start what? What do I listen to? What do I get? That would show me why everybody from Mike McCready to Nikki six to Steve. Harris are screaming about ufo where would you direct a Mike? Where would you tell them to jump in? As we were talking I, have to say strange the night because that's the best versions of those songs that are on the studio records in my mind because the energy there shows you how incredible were live and it's it's what it as a young guitar player I would listen to that record over and over and over and over again because it was so intriguing and so well recorded and they just kicked out you know I would say start with rock bottom you know and then. Go to I'm a loser if you WANNA get kind of a a great example of how it could be a really kind of a pretty an intro and then it can just rock out from there but. I go a strange tonight and Yeah. I mean I I had that thing too because I like you said my tomorrows, ufo tribute band and I always I remember in early on of trying to explain to people like well, this is UFO and this lob La, and then after a while and Seattle like we started getting a lot more people coming out to the shows that were just like us you know like you and me like. We go. That new about UFO and embraced it loved it and then and so there are out there you know but. Start with strangers the night. I tell people all the time and my probably my all time favorite from that would love to love because I, think love to love encompasses everything. That's UFO and six seven minutes from the power to the melody to the vocal to the guitar to someone else. I forget what interview I've coming up makes the case nope. No hard rock man has ever utilized keyboards more a better than UFO, where he didn't get in the way of the power of the band, it didn't get cheesier overbearing. It was just there for texture. It was the perfect balance and I think something I mean look strangers to me is is my favorite of all time but The for on that record, love to love if I had a gun to my head for one song that song. That says it all to me I agree with that I mean the Intro to that song is so incredible like you said, the keyboards is so are kind of magical and but the intro crazy there's a weird timing the beginning that's on that let thi in Andy. Parker. Bring the groove that I had to learn with life Mars van with him to Julia. How do they do that beginning? It's so weird you know and then it goes into the. Expensive and it's it's just the lyrics are so beautiful about being on the road and you know I can relate to all that and it's it's a it's a it's a it's a movie within itself that Song Love to love and I want to see that all the time. Really as well. Listen man I appreciate. You give me a few minutes here today I really do and hopefully we can. We can catch up on a bunch of other fronts anymore. So yes, to should at some point you're doing well, your family's good. Everything's cool. Your health is good. My health is good word. You know we're we're we're we're being as safe as we possibly can be and washing their hands and wearing them asked and you know I've just been playing guitar and trying to be a dad and just doing all that stuff. So I'm you know rate WanNa again someday with them with my guys. But who knows when it's GonNa Happen? It's total. It'll happen. I'm confident we'll to I'm not sure when but fingers crossed will be seeing Pearl Jam flight to Mars everybody out there on the road playing somebody. They Black Double Motorcycle Club all those having buddy. I'm not in a drive in not zoom actually in a room, right? Yeah, I'm. For sure. All right. Well, thank they can't. I look forward to listening to this hearing broody also. Shankar coming up. We got Nikki six coming up with Joe Elliott coming up. It's going to be a good one. We're going to do a nice tribute at Pete and I appreciate you being part of it. Mike thank you so much take care okay. For me local Seattle Guy. So All right. Man later. Okay. Thanks. Thanks. Thanks to Mike mccranie, appreciate him checking in and sharing his thoughts and love of Pete Way and Ufo. Next up, we will be joined by Nikki, six of Motley crue. This is the Eddie Trunk podcast. Eddie Trunk back with you on this week's trunk podcast Nikki six right now a guy that many people talked about the amazing impact Pete Way had on him. Nikki gives us some thoughts about that remembering Pete Way right now on the Eddie Trunk podcast. Nikki good to talk to you i. wish it was under better circumstances but. Your thoughts about Pete. You know I've I've seen a lot of people mention your name and talk about the influence he had on you. But I've never really heard you talk about it too much. Can You? Can you elaborate a little bit on the impact? He did have on you as a musician and Bass player. I there were. These bands that you know I was drawn to the base, and there were these bands that meant so much to me like aerosmith in the beginning and. UFO Martha hoople you know and a lot of these bass players use a Gibson thunderbird. And that was the base I thought was like the holy grail. A Basal. So I was kinda drawn to these bands and then I was drawn to basic doubtless. The solidifying thing like p played the thunderbird he had the best baselines and the music was exactly what I needed at that time in my life and the teaching me to be a better songwriter and what to do with the base But again, it also weeds in that Gibson thunderbird. It's kind of interesting. I've posted a picture on my instagram that Ross health and posted and it was as classic. Picture Pete with this beautiful tobacco sunburst Thunderbird, and I had the same exact base and there was so many things about the that I enjoyed as a as a bass player. But also his presence had a bigger than life presence and you I mean at their peak was Shankar and and Pete and Phil. MOGG instead of those that was a powerhouse band that I think didn't become one of the biggest bands, the world because they just imploded and part of that implosion was drug and alcohol. And to know Pete as a as a not only as a musician but as a friend was really telling of a lot of things would come true in my life when Motley crue. And wasted with Pete played with Ozzy. That was like our first big arena tour. We done think six states with kiss before that I really got to know Pete and I remember seeing Pete doing things after he had been through what I would then become myself which was drug addiction you know and I watch help keep kind of you know struggled with that and talk to me about like what it was like to try and be sober after spinning his life like rocking out partying. That's what we all do. And then trying to do it straighten years later after I got clean and sober talking to pete about that and telling him, I. You know I, appreciate that he shared those those experiences, personal personal experiences. We got to hang out a lot. A lot of Shenanigans Very funny. Guy very witty sense of humor and I'm GonNa miss and it was it was the show. It was a shock to be honest with you because I know Mike, Clink was working on a record. And Pete Pete, it asked me to contribute. And and I I said I would and me and Mike talked a couple of times and then just everything got crazy with. the Motley World and the movie, and then I kinda corona virus that I. When I saw Pete Haswell's like, Oh, my God i. We never got around to contributing whatever that would have been lyrically or I don't think I would be playing bass hit me place some rhythm guitar. So I don't know but I was more than willing to do it not only because he was a big influence just because he was a really good guy really was a good guy out of to almost two soft. You know what I mean. There's some guy he's was just so sweet that I think this this life. Just got to a lot of ways. Yeah that that's an interesting thing you know talking to all of these people many people know absolutely worshipped ufo and and and Pete and what you know his music and what that meant to me growing up and it's a shame because like you said, they never became a household name really in America unless you're a big hard rock guy but the influence was so huge and one of the people that I'm talking to talk to you. During this special is Michael Schenker and he brought up to me what you just said about the stage performance aspect of what it was like onstage he was larger than life and Michael said, he goes as much as people thought I was sort of like the star of ufo he goes. I actually never saw it that way he said I saw Pete as the star of UFO. He directed things he goes right down to like when we were playing in the seventies if. The spotlight wasn't on the right person he'd come over and it was on him at the wrong time. He said he'd come over to like where I was taking a solo to make sure that light moved to me. He goes he was he was and he goes in Phil Mogg as great of a singer as he is wasn't a big time frontman that moved around a lot. He said. So Pete right anchored that role in Ufo, which I thought was really interesting points. Yeah, I can. I can see that clearly cool hearing that from Michael did when was the first time you saw? UFO. I mean. I never got to see that ban live. I found damn in like seventy four at the phenomenon record. Me and my friends stumbled across that. and. That just led to you know ev- everything else you know all those other albums that came after that were just you know pretty mindblowing think about their albums almost in order I can't think of them right now but they really didn't disappoint there was like five album run there. Every single song was unbelievable and you know, Phil. Also really interesting case study as as lyricist limited amount of range a very unique tone and and you can find that magic combination in in a Lotta bands you know whether it was like a bond Scott. He had like this range and he had his own sound any lived in that you know I think Vince. Does that as well filled as that sometimes a lot of the singers that we all love like you know from deep purple and Coverdale and and Glenn Hughes and so. I think when the singer doesn't have that wide of a range, it kind of becomes. A little easier for those guitars and the Bass and drums all like explode out I. Don't know if that makes sense but it was just you listen to some of that ufo sucked. It's like there's backbeat with Pete the drums and then there's that the Michael Rips or like unbelievable a pocket and Phil just delivers the mail. Let's like like butter managed so that what a great. Bam Bam and you know what's interesting. You can speak to this from the addiction aspect of things clearly but obviously repeat and it's something that's come up I mean much of a sweetheart as he was he just couldn't couldn't kick those demons and it cost him a lot throughout the course of his career but the one thing that unanimously everybody says that new um or madame or had experiences with them, sweetheart. That's the biggest word that comes up sweetheart and you know from I've never done drugs but you know I find that pretty interesting because. Most people that have had serious addictions throughout their career you hear stories about the Times that they were like huge dicks to people because they were out of their minds but it seems like no matter what was going on with Pete Heiser lows whatever drug he was or wasn't on he unanimously was just really really sweet to people and that's the one thing that's really coming out from everyone I talked to. He. was more of a passive character. So he was like very mellow not confrontational, and if he was you know lit up and I've seen him that way and I'm seeing him sober he just was just nice like he didn't WanNa Start Five. He didn't WanNA talk bad about people he didn't want to. Cause any kind of Ruckus he was just kind of in in in that groove and and it's you see a lot of guys have type. A or type AA personalities than they get lit up and you know they liked the house on fire I guess those guys are necessary to. But in the big picture, Pete, Pete Wasn't wasn't that guy is handling to save up Pete my conversations with him everything mattered the the the base mattered the way it sounded but the way the base looked the the stage clothes. How you look how your hair was cut with the lighting was like what the album cover looked like. He cared about all that stuff and that's important anybody it's like starting out and coming up or even people that are up and in it you know you really keep your eye on every single element of it, and if you if you have good taste tagged just transferred right over the fans I mean look at some of those those ufo album covers some of the artwork that they they put together for to go with the music it it took us. Like, do you think about phenomenon like it just Kinda took you to another place that rock bands warrant they took the UFO concept and ran with it and it's it's pretty cool. Pete was behind a lot of that. Yeah. No doubt I don't want to hold you too long. I really appreciate you taking the time to speak on Pete and be a part of this. But the one thing I did want to ask you, you mentioned that tour with wasted and I actually went went to a bunch of those shows actually did a part in the show once with Ozzy when played a New Jersey but I, remember that bill very clearly you guys I have photos from backstage. With you guys and wasted and Ozzy and the whole thing. It was an amazing tour and I love that wasted record that they were supporting record called vices. It's for people that don't know a lot of this is about ufo deservedly. So but wasted especially that vices record, which is all allowed dirty hard rock record I listened to all the time. So for you at that point Motley, just starting out in the early part of your career, not only are you on tour with Ozzy but being a fan of pizza and Ufo you guys must have shared some some great stories and great moments on that run that had to be a big thrill for you as a young guy. I mean it was it was a huge thrill and I would watch pete. You know I'd stay on the side of the stage I'd I'd watch him. Like what's What's how's he doing that house he commanding such stage Christians and You know I I just always believed the Bass player's guide stands the back. Tommy's like I'm not just the drummer sets in the back. We these type of personalities are you know Conoco's on the edge of the stage and I was watching people pete didn't do it the way I did it I'm I'm like in people's face pete was like. kind of this shining star like on the stage and you were watching him, he wasn't really. Attacking you he was like I don't know his own groove. Its own way of moving his own style was really cool to watching the Great Bass player. By the way you know, let's not forget that I mean. Album in insert that he did replace them. This is really great rock and Roll Pete. You can't listen to a UFO song ago. the debase doesn't matter you know the base actually. Slimes were woven in with with all those great guitar riffs and think that that fills voice game such a unique style Oh. Yeah Miss. Man, I loved his playing and you know, Mike Clink sent me a statement just just yesterday and we talked a little bit and you know the I'm not sure what's going to happen with that record they were working on but clink loved loved Pete and was very excited to be doing something with them creatively, and hopefully there's away they can salvage that record and put. Out some sort of final musical statement. Last thing Nikki everybody I talked to with the smile has a story. Everybody's got Pete Story of some sort of craziness or excess or something they saw or something that made them laugh or something that shocked them is there anything even maybe from that waste tour or any other experiences that you might be able to share as far as Pete Story? You know when you're Nikki, fix your coming up and you you know I had some years in the late seventies and in Los Angeles playing and cutting my my teeth. So to speak and then you know early Motley and then there we are out on the road and we we were feeling a little little cocky and kind of like you know we've seen everything but really we've only seen everything in La Pete on the other hand head seen everything around the world multiple times. So Ozzy throws on address for no apparent reason and I said to Pete Oh did you see all these address? Awesome said Oh that again. And rolled his eyes. And walked off. Like. Oh. I just saw ozzy and address like I seen that one hundred times. You're green. Great stuff. Let's talk again under better circumstances man I hope you're enjoying your family's safe everybody's doing well, and you're enjoying your time there in in Wyoming, right? Yeah. Yeah. We've moved up to Wyoming and IT'S Fantastic screen for creativity I'm. All kinds of ideas or just floating around in the air and Kinda keeps Richard said. You know we he said, you know he doesn't. He's never written a song. He just plays guitar all the time and then the song just shows up and that's kind of what it's like for me up here in Wyoming I'm just writing and subs turning into possibly a book and such turning into songs and and and you don't know where it's going and that's really exciting and I feel like being back in Los Angeles everything's business like. When's the deadline ones rehearsal start wins the tourists are win win win win and I'm like that's great. I understand but I kinda need to step back and just let some creative juices flow and see see what's in this old. You know pirate I don't know maybe I don't have any more songs than me maybe I do only one way to find out. So so is the place is not so chaotic yeah, and you can text me a picture the day of a giant. Moose in your backyard, you're not gonNA see la so. Yeah. That's a whole other story. All right I'll talk to you later be good at. Thank you. Man I. appreciate it take. My thanks to Nikki six. Appreciate him taking some time out and joining us on the PODCAST and celebrating and remembering the Great Pete Way. Okay. Let's get to our next interview This is a guy who is such a great rock fan and I always think of with some of our mutual favorite bands to call on a guy who was friends with. Pete. Way In him and his band had big history with Pete. Way I'm talking about Joe Elliott of DEF. LEPPARD. He's next here on this special. Dedication to Pete Way Joe I wish we were talking under better circumstances but thank you for the time. Yeah. You're welcome I'd rather not doing enough because Yeah. It's incredibly sad. I'll go to be on. It's not like a massive surprise I'm surprised at the way happened because Pete's living to. Excessive. So long I think everybody thought he'd outlived case you know And turns out that it was. You know nothing to do with anything that you know nocturnal activities that he's. An. Amazing. Reputation of surviving but Yeah he was such a little guy. You know I've known for a long time I'm trying to think the first time I ever met paid was nineteen, seventy nine. On. What would be in the know not room to. Run I'm starting to have no place to ruin when Juncker just come in on go will opening for your. And they played Sheffield. And I went to see Phil Really I mean I went to the band but I was I was hoping I didn't know Megan so. I've been reading about this bound girl in in the English price and we knew about each other still when I knew that they were were mutual friends of UFO's though there's a no brainer that goes to the gate. But I'm I think they'll probably introduced me to pay that night and He was such a lovely guy you know he was. Takes you straight under his wing? No. Mexican around. No hasn't grace's none of this on Rockstar. You'll nobody he everybody was the same to pay everybody was in matter whether it be roller plan or a guy yet to get a record deal. He tr- everybody the same and that was one of his more endearing qualities really use such a genuine but. Yeah. That's the one thing that everyone is saying i. mean the biggest word you hear when people talk about Pete Way beyond the stories of the excess and the craziness and I often did call him the Keith. Richards a base because I thought he would be that kind of guy as well. But the one word you hear consistently sweetheart and what's interesting about what you just said Joe is the context seventy nine leopard is far from. Anywhere in the world at that point and for him to in protein or to to be like that to you, it wasn't like you were coming to him as the Joe Elliott Hysteria Joe Elliott where everybody knew. So to have a warm reception I would think would be really important for you as a as a kid just trying to get going with your band. Absolutely the fact is that you when you when you think by some context. we would have both been people that read the. The weekly magazine sounds which Jeff Bardin wrote a lot about you know British rock music, and well, any kind of huge case found a big nugent fund but he supported British pounds and Mike Ufo. For example, he really pushed between them enroll south in UFO's into on the you know in the magazine every other week really and We was starting to break and I know that would've read about us. Because of the connection to Alfred and Jet Baden who he knew as well. So we were reading about this found that we knew and loved, and he was reading about these open coming by all of this. You know. So he knew we existed. and. Possibly you could. You could argue that was why he was so nice. But I would disagree with that would say that he was just he would have been identified. It just means some kid that walked in off the street. He didn't house dot kind of Ego. You know I've never spent a Lotta time. We pay I've never seen him. I've never really. I've never saw get angry I mean I'm. I'm sure film Oak will argue what you'd expect twenty two hours a day with it which never I didn't appeal occasions but not it the way it say being about where they would. But when you when you with a as a friend, you know the way on Scott was while myself will fill or to limit or anybody that knew Lemme all these people that knew pete way over the years. He was the guy that example like Levy, he was the guy that a Lotta the punks would've actually said he's okay. He believes he's okay. What is they would've shown the a Euro A or they would've shown Zeppelin or whatever. They wouldn't have shown Pete Way because he would have come across as a bit of a punk you know, and in fact, he did produce a band called the company rejects well come together I think he was who were a hardcore punk. And he was he was the producer One of the album's so I, know he was accepted. into the fold in more than just what you might call classic rock music. Yeah I spoke to Nikki six about that actually because. Nikki having a huge history of addiction and drug problems of course has been well documented I. said the crazy thing about pete is the word you hear most with about Pete beyond all the funny stories is is the sweetheart wonderful guy always a wonderful sweet guy and that's even more fascinating to me up against the fact that. There's Times he was clearly impaired and you hear stories about people being very angry when they're like that or fans meaning meeting you and then not having a good experience because you weren't together or what have you but you don't hear nobody ever has those stories about peed. It's always a what a sweet guy and it's amazing. He was able to maintain that through whatever he was going through and whatever given time. Trust me I've been in situations we pay ask couldn't stand up you know but he was still decent person and he had a sense of humor. So it will. You know I mean there's been many a time I remember when we toured the UK wide tonight can two, thousand, nine, I think it was. Became to in Birmingham and cleared out dredging up with every. But he blamed the on his wife. But he didn't even know. What it was like, what should you know? So classy comedian doing this Sony. Watch my you know they think she just turned. Out Day. Because he just had this arsenal of humor you know in that. He could just pull on you know but he was such a sweetheart when I moved to London Nine, hundred, eighty one. I only lived maybe fifteen minutes from people who live in Twig near Twickenham. And We met somewhere probably UFO can in London. And he's you know we talk numbers. Went. Round to his house to hang with him and this became a regular habit you know and I remember babysitting for his daughter Charlotte when she was perfectly you know. Less than a year old he goes swimming and then live Joe were like we're just GONNA nip down. And get some this. We just keep it on the kids. So you know at least responsible in that respect. We would you know but I mean there's so many great stories remember my one, hundred, forty stores every about Pete. was they do make me at all but it was Ross. Ross Alfie Toby the story of some Early Ufo to maybe seventy, four, seventy, five, seventy, six. The actually said to his wife he says. Many little I'm just down his shop Pedroia and he just jumps into a went onto this speech. Because I think he didn't have the auditory, but he probably just got home from an eight months. And then there was the managing say we're going by and he he didn't have they all the nerve to tell us. So he just knock off. So this was paid way down to a team you know I mean. Lovely lovely. The Guy. Yeah and that's what everybody has those great stories and everybody has been generous enough to share them with me Joe? Did did Leopard and O ever tour together? Did you guys ever work together on the stage? One. In Nine, hundred, eighteen, one. Nine thousand nine hundred, eighty one, and he was we will open into Ritchie blackmore's rainbow and we did have festival with him somewhere in the off scary. San Sebastian. Spain. And because he was a festival, we were included in these festival though the bounds wit till Ufo were just before we went on. So was rainbow UFO DEF LEPPARD and somebody on those. and. We So course you know that was again, we never told Shankar lineup. Put we we did a We did the one show when when Sonko is into that but you know I'm not and of course by that I knew you know what I mean. So to see him in environment, it was just a case of like anybody to festivals. And you. Beat around a bit all you've met these people before you can't wait to start leaping into wait till the dressing rooms to say, are you doing all kinds of? And Pete was the one guy that I knew really well, I I remember once when they played the probably the same night. Girl. And UFO play the city all in Sheffield in seventy nine that invited his back to the hotel. hotel we knew very well. So it was easy to you know it's not well at the Home Town Hotel Sheffield and Pete you know invited that we were all sat in the bar. Myself Pay on departure Paul. Raymond. I don't think muggy was there to you know and we would just. Again. We will get to the table I've been waiting for all included together was. Obviously I think you know feel In, would've been there maybe Gerry laffy possibly Lewis it was just one of those everybody together of moment, my hometown and a a kind of A. Bound not rival band like bill, but you know going with the. we would just kind of get no and both of us being in all of the fact that we were in the company of the bond that we've been listening to for five years or so I was I was introduced a ufo on the. Probably the second day of my data when I left school and I, go to Gig in these factory. Friend of mine who I'm still cold calling I bought it. Pressing. We discovered who we both like music. He'd Never Montrose and I'd never heard you expo. This is August seventy five. So I loaned him the first. Montrose Album Anita. Led Me Phenomenon. And soon as you head Dr, don't so you off you know I mean it's like, wow, you know oh my and all you know so great songs on. The album crystalline another favorite, my great drink but a better song. You know they from not moment onwards? I. Was I was hoped you know, and of course. By seventy five I'm just getting to know the first album so almost. Instantly. Oh there's another one is false it out. So and then within about you know six months of that went into seventy six and then there's nobody practically. So all of a sudden in. The space of eighteen months I've got three album and I you know they they were. To a sibling DEF LEPPARD. As important as anything that we have a sweaters as an influence, you know what came through now, music was probably more lenient because the to Utah think both the actual melodies lyrics, the stabbing state, the the overall impression ufo gave as a band they were they were broken beyond all the abounds in their league. I think you know they weren't maybe Obama. Is that. Different, kind of music women. One thing. Chan Khurram Board. UFO's major strength for me was was film lyrics. Pete Ways Songwriter in which allowed Michael Schenker Guitar plane to. To flourish because when you listen to songs like to adult that always repeat late songs that gives Shankar room to read wings. The normal risks if you listen to Michael once he went solo the songs with very different instructions to the one played on a ufo album. So you can hia Pete's influence. You know in that kind of commercial pop rupp. Vein the that that they were kind of mining the time 'cause watches they were a rock band. We get work bottoms and your doctor doctors when you listen to things I only you can rock me that's like classic pulp right that he knows when I say broke I don't mean. In. Pop. Band I mean songs that would cross over possibly become single but still maintain that rock face if you like you know the very few and far between as an English kid, we had one top forty stations. So we had things like radar love UNC, nothing yet hold your head. Okay. All the singles, clean singles, but it was like a few rock around hit and you were writing songs that could have been hit. And a long before they had their first one, you know because Pete's I think as a musician. He wasn't Jacko pasta-roni is by a long way but as a writer of an Arith- Creator and you could hear this as well later on in in like wasted there's a song on devices cold loaded. Crossing Pete Way you know. That that would be strength was was he was able to. Arrange a song bring coach forward for a song and that would enable a deterrent to really go to town. Yeah. I brought up that vices record by wasted I. think that is fantastic. Big Loud dirty rock record hot love and all that stuff. It's show good I I. Listen to that record still all the time and you know Nikki six made the point in the any and it's true if you look at that string of ufo records starting with Shankar and I would argue right through the Chapman years. It's maybe one of the greatest runs of albums. The material top to bottom is is is so incredibly strong and the other thing that's come up and all this joe is the big word is influence and it's interesting to me because. Again, UFO didn't get over that huge hump and become that household name in that megabanks. Some but they made a mark and you can see that just in the news of dying. The amount of people who have come out. And said the influence that the band is had n Pete specifically as had on them is is remarkable. It really is I mean on this show alone I'm going to have Mike McCready from Pearl Jam and yourself and Nikki six and all these different guys and the influence and impact is really pretty amazing. When you think that at least here in America, the amount of commercial success was very marginal. Indeed when you just mentioned the three people there it's like a lot rebounds Motley crue DEF leppard pills you. Say. That they can influence you and you go off in your own direction. You know it's interesting the Paulo you say about the room that they had even through the the Tuncay. Use that run of albums from when they signed to Christmas echoed forget this still that was. Prince could you? For when they really go probably tomatoes phenomenon to me I. would say like the first real album. I can draw a parallel between the I say five. UFO albums under I, five ACDC albums in did she the progress? I think the only differences they never had a back in block. ACDC did. You know I mean to me we kept seeing progress. He was beautiful. You know I discovered the first we will get, and this is from a English perspective by the remember like you said, we had A. Top Forty Station which did a rock show on a Friday night for two hours and then on a Saturday afternoon. which is just go over vans like. All the father, their new record now The progress from each record was was great to see as a fan you tune on. You know well as reading in sounds that they release lights out and he's starting to get trump's in America and even though I think you only got like number twenty two in the billboard chart, it seemed to us. The back in the UK that was an enormous step for pretty to make and like it was on with was from bad and then when in seventy comes out and they release the obsession. And then they start been hit. And you think this is going to go masses. Become a huge fan you know. But the difference being you know Schenk acquit and kind of. Toppled. The dynamic a little bit whereas when bond died and and Jonah took over somehow that worked beyond everybody's wireless imagination. Process possibly because I've been lying on board gave a an edge with Rome never listen it. They didn't use ron again after the live album you know So whatever relationship had within. Wasn't the same as a line was with. With ACDC so it's a shame that they never got to make their. Even. Their highway to hell because. I'm saying she was a big record in England but I WANNA say big tanning was number one for six weeks and I don't know how much made in America we owned all the musician you have so. A little bit like. I reached owners over time with Everybody that bought a velvet underground album became a band big joined about formed a bond. Because you know don't underground high job position something like older than seventy five weeks but everybody loves them that in the. US folks in the same effect within rock. So that's why I think you got me all of the guys. Mike McCready Nikki six Tesla. Cross right now that was his hero yeah, I've been in touch. You. Know I think that the thing about Ufo what they had that we all admire the most is that they had to keep will play, but it didn't make them sound like one of these American. With a keyboard I'm not gonNA name names, but you know what I mean. These edge it was it was possibly an English thing I mean I want to take credit for it being English. I don't mean I'm not trying to be you know. Jingoism or anything like that. But I think that I think there is a thing that it's like they were very influenced by the likes of the small faces. And the kinks and stuff like that and they use capable but he didn't ever sound wimpy an and they said that money should make that work really well, and with songs too low they could write great ballots that didn't sound winter either. You know and try me off lights out and things like that. they. They wrote great. Great songs. They really did mock was the perfect tournament for online. Paid Way was. You know is kind of foiled if you like and Shankar was the flash thing on the outside, the living all the lyrics but you know the anchor between the drums in the front line was paid and he was. As I said. It's not a common secret. Think that he wasn't the most. Fantastic Bass player. But as we all know in rock and roll each important, it's not about how well you played walk is like well, it had it had it had an attitude and you know. I loved his bass playing and Nikki six said that he thought he loved his bass playing because his base lines were so interesting what he played and his approach to the instrument where he wasn't going to be the Bass player just hanging out by the drum riser he was bringing it to you and I think that's a big part of where the influence comes in as well on some of these guys. Absolutely yeah I, mean Oakridge sided his bass playing. I'm just saying that I compared to all the base. He didn't really care. Wasn't like I'm a great bake plant. He was just a Rockstar in abundance. based. Banjos that have been the thing to play the Banjo. He just he was just the guy in the on the rope songs, he could play Acoustic I know he could play advice. Better than he ever did on state. But when he went on stage that wasn't his priority priority was displayed likes the striped trousers the leaving the Driza Guitar five not too which were totally an oath of huge influence on clock. not depend, but he this string to low the competition. The left hand beaten only would've got with the same ones as they used to get. Down the phone looking at. Communicated he communicated through his entire body and soul not just a plank of wood on his neck and I would just yeah and my. Out of his career is character and I've also talked to Michael Schenker for this special about Pete and Michael said to me that he felt the rock star of UFO and the visual anchor on stage was because he said his greatest fill is he never moved very much and Michael would like to stand there and start a plant up and flash everybody with the great riffs in the soloing. But he said it was really Pete, that was the ringleader and kept things moving and brought that energy on stage I thought that was great. I Michael Right. It. Absolutely. Right. I. Don't think I. Shaneco move a Muslim stage not the bookie boot. Shankar that I remember when the flying wedge between these lake, you can't really move once you're in that position. Anyway, he was the head of ovary space playing away by itself was did need to move I'm. Phil and CIGNA VISA Pre in is so he's with a rig like that next to him he needs to be as close as wages ECON. So he's not going to around to watch pay was the one I just had because he wasn't acted down musicianship in the traditional sense. He was like I'm just GonNa leap about I know I think Noah and. He and Blah Blah. I know what I'm doing and you know so you were trying to speak by his visuals. It was very similar in. It was more of a musician Pete but he had his thing he didn't move around so much. But he used the Qatar as a as a splash by MIRA bounds thing and you know machine gun and all this kind of impeded same thing with Pete tended attorneys taller inside out do that which I've never seen anybody do and the factory knew how to set it off either their holiday couldn't trousers or striped ones which became a big thing on the new album seat I mean SAV Steve Ours everybody ever had the block you ip wage houses. Yeah. They just did. So. He made any. A much more of an impact on us as a person and he didn't as a bass player but obviously he was the bass play and when you listen to. Cherry on obsession, which is obviously again, another place on dot whole until it's on pace is great. It really is well done. So I'm not suggesting he couldn't play unsigned he just wasn't the my friend. I. Always the way would have been for Jaakko Dorian example somebody like that. You know he was. He was just Pete Way you know rogue star probably said Doughty's prospal. Yeah. For sure. Joe Last thing in a Lee with this everybody has given us a couple already but. You know and Mike. Clink sent me a note about Pete as well. He was doing a record with them apparently. At the time of his death, but but Mike said when I told Mike I was doing this. He said you know. For God's Sakes, it's Pete Half Fun and celebrate them because that's what he would have wanted because he was always just such a party in so much fun in. So many great stories everybody has got Pete Way Stories who's come in contact with them. You've certainly had a lot of time spent with him especially early on do you have anything else? You can share as far as maybe like one great story or one great memory like for instance, Michael tells the story that they went off stage and took a quay loot and forgotten how to come back out for the encore and just went down halfway through the encore. So. Everybody's got Pete Way stories like is there any you know nights of partying or any stories you can share? Too many actually I remember one time they played Dublin in mid nine is and Tonka I think he was wish having a room so i. I went down to see him. They already gone to bed the two of them but the door and I just saw into Pete's bed while to south drink vodka and orange until I went home and I was just my my favorite story is other than the babysitting one, which is always. when they played Sheffield one week one year it would have been late seventies, early eighties he we hanging out and he said I'm starving. It was one thirty in the morning. You know the only thing open it won't the morning is one of these like. greasy spoons that taxi-drivers Gettysburg from under the. Arches and Sheffield. So I'm like well, I can take you down that and. So we drove my comfortable car down to the. Place where the taxi drivers Kinda hang out until they've told to kind of an out steps paid Kapiti casinos, type plastic let trousers, Leopard skin coat my car all. The whole bit we. I'm Wisconsin in. But their coke. Amongst these bull, t show intoxicated on. You can only imagine the look scene is getting. And he wasn't intimidated one bit. Nobody even thought to think. It but. They just kind of well not. Alleys. Wait. Brilliant he's going to be missed what what a what a rough year for us. Fans Paul, Raymond Call Chapman, and now Pete. But. I wanted to do something to to celebrate him and Joe. I can't thank you enough for taking the time out of your data to share some some memories and stories about him. Pleasure we didn't do it, but I'm glad to contribute. Thank you so much Joe Be well and I'm sure thanks. Yeah. Hopefully, we'll be talking soon. Best you and your family during the Times. And you too. My thanks to Joe. Elliott much appreciated. Coming up next as we wrap up this special tribute to Pete Way this edition of the Eddie Trunk Podcast the man himself Michael Schenker. Well when you talk about influence and impact on so many musicians, you'd be hard pressed to find anybody that doesn't site Michael Schenker as an influence Shaker very much loved Pete Way even though he hadn't been in the band with him for a while that was clear when it Michael posted how much it meant to him for when Pete passed away and how impactful it was. I also reached out to Michael for a few minutes. He joined me by calling in from. England. Here are his thoughts about his former bandmate on the trunk podcast. Michael my condolences to you. I know that Pete was very special to you. You wrote a a really touching. Statement. Online your thoughts about Pete's and what you can share with us about last time maybe you spoke to him. Of all or haven't we seen for a long time publicly as long as seven years? And So. So because at some point, I will kind of trying to include him into my project. And they lost you know like the two, thousand, ten more something like that. But He you know He. Talk Tomorrow I must say I mean he's the speaker guy on. And Somehow somewhere, really innocent pure. And and and And you just. Charisma is is just amazing. I mean he was the spa in your own life on states. He cuts I mean he had so much magic it cuts. Anybody Russo him you know was. You know kept. took him. And but somewhere. peeped way. Somewhere down. The road team way. Got Confused I. Don't know what happened to him but. You know he got confused and he Just I guess in over the with the end golf, you're all when when I left the band. You know maybe thinks stop is I don't know but I have been with. Over the years. Many Times. With my tune. I mean in Arizona for for a month to two or two. And and I tried to include them many times you know in in what? To to I helped him with a plot. You know he made these target to sing and and so I was always with and I even touch with his doctor towards you know the like. I. Think that maybe is already as long as four years ago I was still you know boy. You know talking to him and then having look we we get together and we make this old happening and and at some point I think I even spoke to upto whatever. But it was just. You know, and then I invited people once again with Joe Areas were still alive I had to basam states microfossils saying and how and when we was playing. drums and I you know because people came so unreliable I had to invite. I had to base players you know, and so I had P. Play you know a few like four or five south down and but it just became Jury very difficult. You know. But You know it's it's unbelievable and the chemistry and his powers in the off all. It calicut. Kind Kinda be more. New of all was the perfect cut straightaway like pizza pod you know he he wants to. He was to walk 'em role he was. On, stage you had the nickel my. pod. You know and. Indian for CELONA BASS players. Basically although I love people were blowing away by hand by his. Office about like I did people are like rolling. Stones. Zeros born and and many more but because. He. S. In. As as the journey went on. It became. PEOP-. The. Remo just simply love. He couldn't find he could go out on to. Staying Solid just. Somewhere. And But that's monthly. Yeah what. I want to talk about I just wanted to render the teeth. Than I know. When he was a teenager. You know thinking wash away over twenty one when I joined when I was seventeen. But that was the mets are remote the trust album. With. Juice by Leo Lyons the second you know the that was phenomenon than doing fourth. Also produced by rail lines and then we did know heavy peppy also just by their line and we thought it was fine sands and then of course. And then you know here we have cold langone couple of fifteen. All Gone Chapman gone. You know it it's terrible. It's terrible time we have to go viral. We come go on stage we have people dying left and right. And the mall you know my dear friend. Pete's you know. I was actually thinking about them and then I get a message for Microsoft. That he the way you know I was so shocked. And and very sad. Yeah. It's been. It's been an unbelievably difficult time as you mentioned for a Ufo Paul Raymond to was also in your band for a short time, we lost last year and more recently Paul Chapman. A lot of people don't know you actually were in the band for a brief time with Paul Chapman early on and he died unexpectedly on his birthday. No last. So it's been a very, very tragic time for for the banned. And I can only imagine what fail is going through and how difficult this has been for him. you know Michael the thing you're right I mean the outpouring of love for Pete since this news came out on Friday and all of the musicians who said what a big influence and inspiration he was to them is truly incredible. It really is an everybody Michael everybody has a funny. Pete Story. They've got tons of them. But do you do you have? Do you have one or two that you can share with the audience because I want to celebrate today too. So is there anything that jumps out to you like maybe from early on or even later or any funny SORTA? BEAT STORY THAT I don't know it's funny but. It's just nice. Way You know he was. Always. Walking on the at. at the same talking there was very chomping and the. You, know they their income taken. And had an powerful. Men The But. He did fund. Well, we all did some crazy things of course, but it was remarkable what he did. like we played I messed up in eighteen or nineteen and. And he was. On I don't know how much older people. But maybe four years for five years. And and He took. A quaint. Like out the we got off states. He took A. And then we had to do our did we had to? Call. But the. With working on him. And why we were doing the article he co, he faced the something. In the corner of office states like on states. And and you know that Royce like. PEOP- you know. It. Just Pete. Wasn't. He I think he has no borderlines like he was trusting everybody. He was to speak this guy to everyone he would leave. It was. Strange if it were anybody, I mean if you need a diplomat or somebody who makes peace with. Its pink you know. The one that that welcomes. Any any anybody. And That works. And very, very strong. Characteristics of it. And But how to out. was to worry. Too Dangerous. At that he was he was walking email on the APP. She basically was working on the edge all the time. Could never let go and. Of Walking on the at and s time went on I, I think that Things got worse and. You know. It it became very difficult for him. I don't really I hadn't been with pt every day all only been with Pete until. You know the when left your role and then. A few times. I tried. To help him. You know different subject Cetera. But You never found his way I mean he even now just did with Mike Clink you know which was alcohol. He was singing. He did the record right me I, think he would slash late on it. And So. So you know he became a single because what happens is basically and I guess he became. Incapable. All he got didn't WanNa play Bass and he wanted to accomplish sale. He maybe had you dreams. I. Have No idea because I was not for mets him anymore for the last few years and because. that. He became so unreliable that it was like us you know. Peach or. Do. You like and be happy. But you know there's nothing much I can do for you anymore and that's already a few years ago but he got them together you start with singing and. I don't know. How that went and? You know for me the important about this. With The essence of feet when he was. starting with your fall that is the Pete. That was you know Look. Going down the drain that was the Pete. WHO reject discover? You know rock and roll and life. And and wars in magic chemistry of a ban you know and he had. That hundred. Perfect. Perfect. In that fans that no body on the. Food. Yeah it's. It's really remarkable because when you when you look at the old videos and you, you see he was just a force of nature on that stage and the way he performed in the way he I mean as much as of his playing and what he did as a writer and his contributions to Ufo. But also the way he dressed the way he acted the the Rockstar was it's at such a big impact on so many musicians many who went on to have know quite honestly much much larger careers I mean everybody has reached out about Pete. That ask you this one final thing Michael on on Pete because we could talk about them forever but I have so many people that are reaching out that wanted to talk about him. You are in a unique position to speak about him because of course, as you mentioned, you were in Ufo. And a huge enormous part of ufo yourself during the glory years if you will during those years of the seventies, what was it like as a musician to share a stage with him I mean he'd always be stopping around and circling you I would see in videos and he'd always be all over the stage as a musician and as a performer, what was it like to share all the all the shows with him and beyond those stages all those years. Yeah in the beginning. It was okay. It was actually very good because it was very control. He did not go. You know like like completely over the top light, he didn't the end in two thousand when he was sending by feet and dampening my strings probably could make play on stage and anymore because he didn't know what he was doing he was just. He just. A a new for me to perform you know and. In the beginning in in tying up to strangers the night when I was in the band. it was it was. All. How can I say it was it was It was just what he did. You know he was coming over to me and that's in the right in the right time you was. going. He was doing was pending old the old. From the entertainment point of view like with his way was stressing and the way he was holding your. Way Be would fill states whenever there was a whole hills and made anything stay alive because. Much. You know, right. So be it all of that he cap? I think all a hat. Like phone for. He kept on the hat score and come. Back and forth. So basically you like him over and. I guess you know what I? Made a solar for instance, he would come over. and. An automatic spotlight would come. To focus on we and the. Come somehow somehow I think that's what you did. And he would kind of. Guy Ereck the Odeon, what to focus on at at a particular time. I'll tell you he was he was one of a kind and you can see from the outpouring of love from so many fans and musicians that it that he is really going to very, very much be missed. You know I had a I would always dream and I've told you this. I had this dream that one day one last time we. Could see the strangers in the night lineup play one last show before it was all over in now sadly, we've Lost Pete and Paul from that particular era. So it's It's truly sad it really really is, but he is he's being remembered and celebrated in a very big way and I thank you for making some time to talk about him today. Thank you for inviting me and it's always a pleasure to talk about. See I love man and blessing. Grants. You know. Thank you so much Mike I. Know You have record coming out. So when that's ready, please let me know and we'll. We'll do. We'll. We'll do a whole interview about that I always look forward to talking to you and seeing you and I can't wait to hear what the next record sounds like. Thank, you from Eddie thank you. Michael Take. Care you too. Bye. Bye. Well Awesome to talk to Michael Schenker. Wish it was under better circumstances. My thanks also to Joe Elliott Nikki six and Mike McCready certainly hope you enjoy this special expanded podcast as we pay tribute to Pete Way with all those great artists. Again, it was endless the amount of artists that were willing to come on the show and want to talk about Pete but obviously only had so much time in the program and I, appreciate those for musicians being part of it rest in Peace Pete Way you will be missed and again as I said at the top of the show rest peace Frankie Bonaly who we lost more recently, we'll do more on frankie down the line and Again on the Sirius, XM radio show I did do a complete tribute to him if you're a subscriber and you miss that, you can get it on demand on the Sirius Xm APP, thank you so much for listening everybody you can connect with me as usual on social media especially twitter where I most active at Eddie Trunk Instagram Fan page on Facebook Eddie Trunk Dot Com is the official online home. 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151 - Pearl Jam: It's a Rock Band, Not The Smithsonian

The Kitchen Sisters Present

28:16 min | 6 months ago

151 - Pearl Jam: It's a Rock Band, Not The Smithsonian

"The. Radio? Welcome to the kitchen sisters present. x where the kitchen sisters. Dave. Nelson N. Nikki Silva. I show people are DC. Antiquites my guests engaged I. Like to sprinkle in fun factor to. Next stop Dupont circle also here's a lifestyle tip for you try apple pay. You can now just tap with your phone or watch to get on the bus or train all over the DC area at your smart trip to the apple wallet than just tap to ride apple pay on iphone. Now, arriving on Metro Carla found her success as a two time finalist on top chef and TV personality. On GMA and Netflix's crazy delicious. But the biggest moments in Carla's life have come when she's decided to face adversity head on her motto say Yes to everything life throws your way in her new country podcast Carla sits down with some of the most inspiring celebrity personalities as they explore their challenges and how they got to their yes. You'll hear Karla talking with guests like Billy Porter Martha Stewart. Kristen Bell Gretchen Rubin Lonnie love and many more stay tuned until the end of the episode to hear a preview of say. Yes. With Carla Hall while you're listening subscribe on spotify or listen at free on the APP. Still sidelined by their ongoing dispute with ticketmaster the members of Pearl Jam ventured out of. SEATTLE. Last weekend to play two benefit concerts in Washington DC for the Gloria Steinem grew. Voters for choice, which works to elect pro choice politicians to office. The group is joined on the bill by Neil young and his band crazy horse singer and songwriter least mono and seven shows were dedicated to Shannon owner and the end Nichols two women killed last month in the latest round of abortion clinic shootings. This time in Brookline Massachusetts sized. Sometimes we find the story sometimes the story finds. Such is the case of this tale two keepers from the northwest Kevin Chest and John Burton, the official unofficial this for Pearl Jam. Carolina Laws Nick, a radio producer in Maine was listening to our keeper series stories of activists archivists and. Librarians and set to herself hey, wait a minute. What about that mythic faults in Seattle I've been hearing about for years bulging with thirty years of everything Pearl Jam. Keeping. that. She headed West whether microphone. We are especially keen to caroline story out now as Pearl Jam notoriously activists band has gone all in for registering young voters and getting out the vote since at least two, thousand four when they took their vote for change tour through the swing states of Wisconsin Ohio Pennsylvania Florida registering us they went. And this pandemic twenty twenty election is no exception. Today. Caroline Nick and the kitchen sisters. Present. Pearl Jam. It's a rock band. Not The? Smithsonian. Pearl Jam fans the hardcore fans they that we have evolved in an archive and Dick stuff up. But I don't think they would know how indepth that gets nor. Really care. From Pearl Jam. Gesture. And it's me my. Curfew. It's a rock band. It's not the Smithsonian. So. Things are kind of catch as catch can. Your oldest put this tape over here and you know. My name is John Burton I'm one of the recording engineers and archivist for Pearl Jam. It's kind of archaeology sleuthing detective work, and I'm just kind of fumbling along and learning as I go. One thing that I think about a lot is making sure that the band can find everything that they need and that nothing is lost or missing or hard to come up with. The funniest misinterpretation of overheard was Mike McCready thinking that Kiss I WanNa Rock N, roll. Out. And part of everyday. Names Kevin, chests and we're here at the Pearl Jam Warehouse I do most of the video side of the archiving videographer and take care of the archives along with John Burton. Girl owns sidelines. Sworn One. Minutes Google. Twenty. Being Twenty. We're in warehouse three and inside warehouse three is where the vault is built. It's a bank vault. Here's the big door only certain people have access to all the band members can get in and a couple of the crew members, but that's it. We'll go inside and take a look. We've got B sides, outtakes masters, everything that the band is accumulated was from well even before they were band. It's getting full. Furthest back, part of the bolt is the oldest material and it gets newer and newer newer as it comes up and we have stuff from soundgarden and we have stuff from members of Pearl Jam side projects, and solitary from Ed. Four. Together. We have art works known as created that sitting on a shelf over there just kind of random things a last month normally ice sculpture part of very unusual event radio personalities from W., amass. Nationally known rock band known as Pearl Jam played a fundraising charity basketball game high. School's gym. Normandy's assistant principal tells us more. Purview Janice in a concert then made after the basketball game and they wanted to get together just to do something fun and we asked if we could turn this into a fundraiser or some kind of promotion from high school and the cost is two dollars and it's open to the public anyone that wants to come and be a part of it. I think that Pearl Jam is going to be willing to sign autographs and you know meet the crowd anything like that. I, guess really not sure what's going to happen altogether. River Tate's from nineteen eighty seven green river was the band that Jeff and stone along with twenty guys from mud honey were in. Jefferson stone formed another band called mother love bone. was her mother love bone eight track demos, and then these are mookie blaylock tape. So before they were Pearl Jam, they call themselves. Jeff and our big basketball fans or basketball player Mookie blaylock all leather Buki. Blaylock puts a full of leather on a double pump shot by Michael. Jordan. The early tapes I'll say mookie on them because had to write something down. And then there was the project temple of a dog. Tembu the dog was essentially Pearl Jam members with to soundgarden members. It was Chris Cornell and Matt Cameron from Soundgarden and then Mike Stone and Jeff from Pearl Jam and Pearl Jam had just hired Eddie better to come up and sing. So he sang a little bit on that record online. From. Begging you. Off. My And then Pearl jam kind of often run. I no idea why Pearl Jam they probably answer that question a million times not answering that question a million times. I think there's some story about it being some band members and made hoosen genyk jam or something. May because they liked jam. I don't even know they know the real reason was it was probably just sounded cool. Join Tonight with our friends in Australia who are listening to us all Australia to tonight's rock line. We're going to go to Melbourne Victoria and with Danielle on the line with Eddie and Jeff from Pearl Jam. Guys. The. Waves. Not Quite yet, I'm his age. To come. I was wondering. How special was the experience of? Can We Chris? During the Temple of the dog project. It was it was. It was pretty amazing. From the new verses album from Pearl. Jam. As we are the broadcast tonight at any Jeff live in the studio with us as we're all up here in Seattle, and now we're going to take it back down to Australia. Once again, listening to us in the triple M network is Debbie in Perth Australia, you're on rock line with Eddie and Jeff deb. Purse. Hi I've got a question I. Just want to know on your new album visit Tran Code elderly woman behind the counter in a small town, Tuesday elderly woman, and where's the small town Sultana. Thought. Oh. No it's it could be any small town. It could be any old woman. and. Basically. The title comes from just being fed up with one word titles. You certainly solve that problem on this one. No I was just warming up one day. I started singing. Stink of you're losing your memory new kind of. You the. Year old boyfriend from long ago and he was all. Nice car and having a real family and you're stuck. Working in this small towns, small town fascinating. Do you try to get out? To you stay there and be a big fish in a small town. I think you should get out. Not Changing At all. Time for. ME. Know. A. Some people listen to music for different reasons some people it's back on easy but other people need it to survive. Other people need music to get things out and I had absolutely nothing else besides music and so that's still you know that's that's in me, and so if if we're going to play if we can get play or write a song, you write about something man something why right? About Pretty Day pretty girl three people. Zero. You know I think it seemed like a Beatles documentary. There was a bunch of footage that they shot themselves on old super eight cameras or something, and I was just fascinated by that while maybe the footage wasn't super infocus or the best ever you got to see it and that's kind of how I approached it. Like okay I'm not Spielberg Scorsese or something, but I have the opportunity to be peaking around the corner and there's Neil young in the dressing room rehearsing with these guys. I. Love that when I'm grown up, I wanted to you know what's Eddie van? Halen. Doing what's it like in the studio? Remember he filming some rehearsals years ago when etes daughter was very small, she was playing with the microphone and grabbed it and like threw it on the ground and I have a couple of video clips of Ed throwing Mike. So I cut something together apple doesn't fall far from the tree. Look at this capturing stuff that I thought would be important. That's kind of a cool feeling for sure. There's a lot of times where I've been filming and of just shut off my camera cameron left they need to be in the studio to write a song. They're not in here for me to try to capture all this. Thank. You. needs to be a little bit of mystery about music. The audio what does that take up four fifths of the vault? So that's a little more John's wheelhouse the mind. This is the very first project that I ever worked on for Pearl Jam. Privy to. Corduroy. Above His bed, which for awhile was called Santa's bed or maybe somebody wrote that down. Wrong. Betterman. Here's immortality highlighted in red. And my notes is this is a rough mix. For fifty six tape. There's a debt safety. Guys are changing their mind quite a bit on things. For example, during Riot Act Pearl Jam would cut a song and I would go up and ask what's the name of this song and ed I didn't realize at the time. May Not have name for the song yet or it may change or he might not want to be asked about it. So give me a title. He'd say you know this is called Jira that would end up becoming something else, and then I finally got the clue when I said, Hey ed what's the name of this song and he said it's called stop asking. So I was like, okay I got enough. Here's a song called doubt was originally called cody was named after the receptionist dog. She brought her dog in everyday really sweet dog and Mike loved it in the song after the dog. I think sometimes I'm kind of seeing a little bit of a memory bank and kind of been the pack rat. Kevin is pretty adept at lifting signs posters Memorabilia from venues like the surfing or moshing sign that you see there like a walk in the truck to unloaded like, Kevin, where did this come from oh? Yeah. millages showed up. Always liked the art I always try to collect posters, flyers, a lot of these big festivals. There's what they call the subway posters shop at venue and see that and rip something off the wall, roll it up and throw it in a trunk and keep it. Back. In the day, ed would hand me His handwritten set lists and then I would rewrite it so you could read it. And photocopy those and pass those out I've got all the handwritten set lists from years and years and years and things like that. Just little things. All my tinder aries laminates sticky passes, t shirts from shows, wrist bands, meal ticket just manusha. I'm Jacob Marie I'm the director of curatorial fares at the Museum of Pop culture and wearing in the Pearl Jam and away exhibition to me it's really interesting because they're very private band and they don't necessarily sharing a lot of stuff about themselves but they were pretty good from a very early. Point of saving most of their material and I think, Jeffey men had that mindset from the beginning but I think really Kevin Scholla's who is their de facto archivists. He really does and gets his natural inclination to save everything and it's like having that foundation where somebody in that organization is really passionate about that I think that just snowballs and everybody starts thinking a little bit that way. We've got some great raggedy t shirts from Eddie vetter from the early nineties, three paintings from Stone Gossard that very fantastical surreal and very tale-ish a number of baseball bats sort of engraved for Mike McCready. He also has a big polaroid taker and we have a ton of Polaroid's Mike took surrounding this Smash Flying v Guitar and features some of his friends like there's Kim Matthias from soundgarden. Lots of fans at some other shows is a great letter here from Barack Obama, to Eddie congratulating him on his induction into the rock and Roll Hall of fame, which is pretty awesome We'll be right. Back. 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Coming out of the Pacific northwest it had anger to and an appeal to twenty something people who felt displaced and unemployed and left out and I was almost fifty and even I was pissed off then. It turned out that these guys in Pearl Jam. Were were something more than a ban. A. True. Living. Cultural Organism. They would recognize injustice and they would stand up for it whether whether it was human rights whether environment. Whether it was poverty. They didn't let it wash over them they would stand up and react. Extreme. Pleasure, and honor to inducted into the rock and Roll Hall of Fame Legendary Pearl Jam. Pearl Jam is always doing something anytime. The guys are pointing we try to hit record and then all that stuff gets put in the ball. It is totally bogus and occasionally a friend of band will walk him in invariably their jaws drop and they're just like holy cow. I don't think our archives. Rival. Say Neil, young? Bruce Springsteen have I think they've all knew right away, dot what they had. And what they were creating was important. And they held onto it. When we're doing the reissue for no code I called Brendan O'Brien who's worked on most of the Pearl. Jam Records and I said Hey Brendan I'm looking for the master for. Dead. Man Walking. And he said, well, just grab the one that says master on it. Said Brendan they all say master. Here's a box of. Cassette tapes and debt tapes. I'm not even sure what all these are called Powell jam because a live recording of them at the BBC Cassette. And here the iron, the late show studio with alive try from their debut album. We also have things like this is a rough mix of. Ten. Pearl Jam rough album mix sixty minute cassette. Yeah That's something I should transfer. Don't you think? View. Man, I've heard so much pearl jam. I I couldn't even begin to guess I have to kind of know Ed's GonNa like this. For this particular reason or man Jeff's really really plane crate here. This was going to be a good thing. I've got my idea what some songs about and other people have an idea and you know Eddie probably has a completely different idea about what the song for about. Good news is. You can still register to vote tonight even in the. Back of this venue on your way out. You've got tomorrow as well. So there's still time to get in. and. Participate in, our. Democracy. Have a voice and you know we don't even care how we just care that. You know what the law? That's why we're here. Rehearsal or the. Rehearsal. Show Rogers saw. A. Pearl Jam. It's a rock band not the Smithsonian was produced by Caroline Laws Nick with editorial assist from the kitchen sisters, Davey Elson and the Kosova in collaboration with Nathan Dalton and Brandy how? Mixed I jim McKee's. com. On. and. Own Special. Thanks to John Burton and Kevin Shos to Jacob mcmurray at Mo- pop to audio engineer Anderson and Port Maine and to Jeff a mint Stone Gossard Mike McCready Matt Cameron and Eddie. Vedder. Pearl Jam. Like Pearl. Jam says get on out there. We vote vote like accounts vote because he loved music and this messy precious democracy. Going to Schmidt's elementary school west Seattle to. Vote just to. Make it official. The kitchen sisters present his property Tokyo from x a collaborative of some of the most provocative searching and beautifully crafted podcasts out there. Stay safe. Stay steady. See you at the polls. Are Partners in Radio Topa, ear hustle tell stories about daily life inside and after prison and they just dropped an episode. We think kitchen sisters listeners will really like. They've assembled a group of four formerly incarcerated guys all of the masters of cooking inside prison and gotten them together on the outside for the first annual ear, hustle kickoff. 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Pro Wrestling Tees Is ALL IN

Talk Is Jericho

1:04:58 hr | 2 years ago

Pro Wrestling Tees Is ALL IN

"The Jericho network on Westwood One. Tall tall recall. On Dreyer's Ricco. All right, welcome to talk. Is Jericho. It's the plot of thunder and rock and roll and home of the Duff McCague joke of the week, Chris Yoko defecate Hong. Yeah, it's a Tuesday here. I'm just getting ready to play. Rehearsing the play with will Ferrell cancer benefit degree theater. Brad, paisley and Chris Barnes. Mike mccready, Chad chili pepper Johnson city pepper and driving. You could tell me how this lawyer was getting questioned down police station and Combi. The lie says, the company says, look, I'm a lawyer president and says, well, you are lawyer, and the lawyer says, words, my present. Thank you very much. What is awesome? I love that one talk is Jericho exclusive. The defecate joke of the week. Thanks the rock and Roll Hall of Famer Duff MacKay gin for always delivering, maybe not on the last always, but definitely on the jokes. That was actually pretty funny when though and he's delivering at the will Ferrell cancer benefit tomorrow night Saturday, October six in Los Angeles at the Greek theater. He's also delivering on the upcoming guns and roses to her. They're hitting the Philippines, Jakarta, Taiwan Hong Kong, and Abu Dhabi next month, and my band Fosse going to be a rock allegiance on the main stage tomorrow and Camden, New Jersey, Saturday, October six. So come rock with us. And if you can't come to Camden, then you gotta come on Chris Jericho's rock and wrestling razor at sea Fasel be doing three sets and there's still a few. And I mean, just a few cabins left book. Now, Chris Jericho, cruise dot com. The line of talent joining us is incredible run down for a little later in the show, but let me tell you someone else is gonna be on the ship and sponsoring the cruise pro wrestling tease with founder Ryan bargain. He's the reason Colt Cabana and Marty. 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In about four other companies that we want a lot of stuff going on, this is Ryan barkin here who's the become kind of the pro wrestling mogul when it comes to to to merge for basically, I was going to save for the independent scene, but it's gone beyond that. Now, tell us exactly who you make pro wrestling tease for you. We started independent now we're, we're making shirts for Steve Austin, hulk HOGAN, Mick Foley while the big is I mean, the whole new Japan for wrestling new Japan pro wrestling's our biggest client. Yeah, and hot topic. You know the the big alpha club shirt that. Is such a big seller right now for me is sold in hot topic, but you actually made it. Yeah, we produce everything. We brokered the deal with hot topic for new Japan. And then from there, we've been able to do merchandising for for you and and other wrestlers that are not part of new Japan. So it's been great. So basically anybody that's rustling outside of w the is pretty much tied into to pro wrestling teases point, probably ninety five percent. That's unbelievable because this this building is huge. I mean, we're in the middle of basically downtown Chicago, which I'm sure is not, you know, the cheapest of of of rents or whatever it may be, and I'm just looking at, you gave me a little bit of a tour. Originally. I wanted to pull Larry David, so he wants to determine their own. He's a tour. I don't want it to her, but I'm glad you gave me the job because I got to see one of the things which was you're the sales for the day. And this is even though it's such a big place, it's still kind of a mom and pop thing where you're packaging them up by yourself, send. Them off in the mail and there was hundreds maybe thousands in that room. Right. And you said that's just two days of sales yet about two days a sale? I, I think we do close to three to four thousand pro wrestling shirts a week say so it's it's, it isn't saying, yeah, how did how did this all begin? How did you get to this point? We have this this giant complex here. We started in a smaller store probably about eight hundred square feet. Now we're in ten thousand square started doing what we started. So one hour tease started ten years ago. She just do like a typical one hour tease if someone wants to get a a bunch of t. shirts for their softball team. Yeah, exactly. We'll go to one hour tease and give us a Sheboygan, sharks t-shirts. Give us twenty of them and put Chico's bell bonds in the back, and there we go. Exactly. I mean, we'll originally it was creative ventures. That's my company names. So creative ventures was a company that started with a friend. We did websites and business cards, and we got into outsourcing screen printing. And then we found out about a digital printer that it was a new thing is about ten years ago where you can just send a a print from the computer directly to the shirt, her directly to the printer to print the shirt. So it's like a computer home Brenner. So it prince full color and you can just do one shirt. So I was like, this is pretty cool machine. We should. We maybe by one so we can do shirts on our own. Maybe then you don't have to worry about minimums and colors and all that kind of stuff. So we bought that machine and from there we started printing our own t shirts and it kind of took off a little bit, but not as much as it should have under creative venture. So my friend left the company and the big thing was everybody wanted shirts fast and they're always they were always like, I, I need the shirt tomorrow. I need a shirt in two days and I'm like, well, I could do shirts in two minutes if you want, like maybe I should charge extra for that. So then I came up with the name one hour tease and we changed the name to one. Our tease p people don't know what creative ventures is. Right? But one, our tease. I mean, it's it's either. Is either t-shirts are something with golf, right? Tease people things to take to make it t- it takes two minutes, one hour called two minutes. Well, I was like, what? If people wanna order hundred shirts? What am I supposed to do? So I'm like, I need an hour at least depending on the machine. So at this point we can print maybe fifty shirts per machine per hour. We're running about fifteen machines. Okay. So you figure out the way to make them quickly? Yeah. Every other tee-shirt companies prices it by quantity and colors. And how many prince you have? We price it by turnaround time. So we're like we could do a one hour. We could do next day to day three day four day, we'll charge for saying, so it's priced by. So how did that become the pro wrestling specialty? Yeah, it's so after about two years, I met Kohl Cabana. He came to the shop, wiggle, Chicago guy, local sky. He said, I got a friend named Siham punk and he needs a shirt to wear on smackdown. It's gonna say, I broke big shows hand all so angle. He had broken. I think he broke his hand. He broke shows. Yeah. Okay. Got it. Because he wanted like like I broke, wa, whose leg or whatever. Right, right, right. So I made a shirt. I I, I made the shirt they came there. I met, I might both of them and then cold emails me and he's like, I, I need shirts to sell. It shows on, I'm with ring of honor. I'm an independent restaurant. I don't even know what ring of honor is. I don't know about independents. Do you wanna wrestling fan? I was. I was w. w. f. w. fan, but I didn't know about independent wrestling. My brother knew about it, so he kind of filled me in and you know from there he's, he introduced me to guys like Joey Ryan and Kevin Steen, and the young bucks with a slowdown of the so-called goes on, need some shirts to be made because all these independent guys theat for me, I'm lucky was never. I wasn't dependent, but haven't been for twenty years and we sold merged anyways. But now that's the big thing is you sell merch yet it make more money. You have to get the made somewhere. We'll some of the guys make more money on the merchandise than they do to get paid to wrestle. So you know they're going going away on Friday. Saturday to wrestle, and I would make bulk orders for a lot of these independent guys through our tease at the time. There was no pro wrestling teas, so it's still one, our tease, and then I'm like, well, you guys are making money on merch on the weekends. What about like the weekdays? What are we going to do and colts leg, I dunno, you decide what we, what can you do? And I'm like, let's let's create a website where you can sell merchandise all over the world. You'll set up your own store and we'll sell those exact designs that we're doing in bulk, but I'll take care of the printing and shipping. So that's kind of how it how it all start. And I was what was the sure that you made for Colt incident? Firstly, I star Colt with the Jewish star on it. It's kind of like a instead of I heart heart starve Dave yet, and he's still sells it today. It's just one of his like Haya selling shirts. No, it's fun. I remember when I was doing the thing with Goldberg years ago twenty years ago and it was I kept like Weasley my way out of matches within but claiming victory. So it'd be the Jericho one Goldberg zero Jericho, Gobert zoo. So I went to have a t-shirt shirt made it was. Greenville, South Carolina went to a place at the mall and said, can you make shirt for me Jericho one? Yeah, Goldberg zero and they're like, I guess. So I got that made over the course of an afternoon. 'cause I remember how fast can you make this take, you know, five hours. I need it in three hours. Right. How hard would it be to do that? Yeah, no, but I wish I would've known one. Our tease it could've done how long ago was eighty eight there was there was no digital printer. There was probably that's the old, the old vinyl lettering, the letters on and push the presser down, rush and the my deal was I, I would take a black piece of tape and put it over the one and then put a white piece of tape for June. Yeah. And then just kind of it's like, even though only twenty years ago, it's very much archaic technologies. Have people do today still there vinyl letter. There's places down the street that do vinyl lettering right l. so it's it's as we have the new technologies. We have the ability to print it in two minutes if you need. So did Colt basically go to the guys say, hey, I got, I know this guy Ryan and he can make shirts for you guys. Yeah. And that kind of words spread from? Yeah, basically kind of went. There was all independent. We like our our first. The first search we put up for Kevin Steen Kevin Owens and he had he was selling like it was a big deal. If he was selling like one shirt a day, it was like a streaky. I'd. Go and he's like, I told another shirt. He's like, let's keep the street going. It was like one sure today was like huge. I mean, now we're like three hundred shirts a day or something crazy. So it's it's, it's crazy how much it's grown from the beginning. So, but even at that point, did you take it into the ring of honor guys? You walking around with a note pad, taking orders or or like, are you going to the shows or the emailing us for like the bulk orders and stuff like that? Just how started to spread. It's easy to get to the point now where you have a thousand different titles, but I'm going back to when all you had was Colt. Yeah. And then he's trying to build this with you. They would just reach out to me Email or something, hey, I got your name from cult. Can you make me? Can you make me some shirts and and I'm like, yeah, sure. So I mean, that's really how it how it came about. And then from there, I think that Colt there were, I don't remember all the wrestlers, but at some point, I think like maybe two or three weeks after I launched the site, I went to a convention here in Chicago and I met diamond Dallas page. And I, I made like an old WCW shirt house. Like I was like, hey, can you sign this? And he's like, Where'd you get this shirt? And I'm like, I made it. He's like, I need someone to make sure it's for me. I'm like, I actually started a website culpa wrestling tease. If you're interested, you can sign up. He's like, yeah, maybe. So like I got his number and like three took like three or four months before you actually signed up with me. And from there he was like the first, you know, legend, I guess you'd say hall of fame like and I was like, oh, that's great. And then there was a guy named Bill who. Did a lot of his marketing and he's like, I can get you Jake the snake in and Scott hall and Mick Foley and all these guys. I'm like, all right, let's go what sign them up and from there is just kind of like, took off. It's typical entertainment when if somebody's hot than everyone else wants to get involved with it as well. Right. Yeah. So how many people do you have because we work together into the hotel, but we did a thing for a while had like three or four designs and you go on the website and there's like how many people have designs. We have a thousand wrestlers now. Now we did. Yeah, I would say probably like three or four hundred are like known, big name legends. And then you've got probably like two or three hundred indie. You know, top of the Indies and then you've got a lot of people were just like getting started. So it's like the wrestling illustrated top five hundred, you know, like the first fifty and then never heard of like, so who's the biggest name on your roster right now right now. I guess St. Boston had been who's like the most obscure name on your Ostra. I couldn't even tell you it would give me one name. I have no idea. I don't even pay attention though. I, I mean, some of these guys sell one shirt a month or some of them sell, no shirts, my people who have signed up and they'll put up ten designs and they'll sell zero shirts. And I mean, they could be the next Chris Jericho. I don't know who they are, so I'm not going to tell them they can't set up, but door. Your money because you're just making them per order. Yeah, exactly. It's, it doesn't. We don't stock anything here, so it doesn't matter if they put up ten designs, it doesn't. It's just time and we're willing to take that time to put up the so it might take like five to ten minutes to put up a design, so. Okay. You're talking about like a guy like stone cold, Steve Austin? Yeah, that's obviously one of the biggest merchandising sellers of all time. Yeah. How how did you get hooked up with him? Because that is not Steve is is a great guy, good friend, but he's not. I'm sure he's not the easiest guy to deal with when it comes to what he would kind of think is like maybe some kind of anything or whatever, maybe. Right. So I think Cabana went on his podcast at some point and mentioned me that might have put like the seat in his head, but then I, I like direct message Jim Ross one day, and I was like, hey, you should sell merchandise, and I talked to him on the phone and Jim and Steve or big front. Her good friends and and he, I think he reached out to Steven was like, hey, Vinny merchandise. You should talk to. She talked to Ryan and he's like, hey, Steve's gonna call you. And I was like, oh shit. Great. So Steve. Steve calls me, we talked about merchandise, I sent him. I think I sent him four or five shirts. I'm like a real shitty guild in t shirt, and he was like, I don't like this at all this crap, and I'm like, I'm like, give me another chance chance. So what why didn't he like it would he would like the guilt and shirts? They're good, but they're just basic boxy t shirts, like the w. Right? You know, Steve likes thrill fitted. Nice, soft t shirts. It looks the quality of the ability to do eighty thousand different types of shirts. I don't know what he likes. I just sent him what all the wrestling things right off the bat. He said he didn't like he's like, he's like, this is crap. Forget it. And I'm like, wait, give me another chance. I'll send you some nice shirt. So I sent him some next level. That's his favorite. So you know, I sent him the nice shirts next level stuff, and you know he, he somehow elected and. He usually creates his own designs. I know in WB he was very much involved in his own nice sent him designs all the time doesn't like any of them nothing. Now it's all his own his own ideas own designed, send him a couple Ebola. Steve Austin design. Do you like a coup like Austin Erawan with Austin, Austin era, like Okinawa, like like an old like an old school, wrestling shirt who made it from Japan. He's one of the best designers that we have, the guy that made your alpha Jericho shirt. He made one with like Steven drinking beer, and it says like Austin, hell, Janas. So that's like our newest one. And that's that's a, that's a top seller. Everything else is broken, skull, ranch, broken, skull challenge. That's is his his new brand. But one saying is is not still under contract to WB for some. So Steve Austin merge, don't they licenses merchandise through him, but he's not under contract for merchandise. A lot of the guys aren't, but. Because unless you sign that legends deal, like I, I don't have that. Yeah, some of them signed it. Some of them are exclusive. Some of them are not right. Then if you sign over the the rights to your name, then you technically can't sell your own merchandise, but they sometimes don't sell merchandise for guys that they do have exclusive deals for the Steve still a lot of merch. Yeah, yeah, tons. I mean, I consider him our our top guy, but the top sellers, that's not Steve so are the young bucks. Unbelievable. Okay. So before we talk about the young bucks, there's another big name with shirts available at processing tease is going to be on the Jericho crews. Talking about DP diamond Dallas page. He's got his own wrestling shirts, and you know he's got a bunch of designs for his DP PY program as well. And you know, I'm a believer in DUI. 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This really works, hey, this is WWE legend x. puck host of x. puck one-two-three three sixty tune in each week as we talked to some of the biggest names in wrestling new episodes drop every Wednesday and it's absolutely free. However, you get your podcast listening subscribe. Now on the Westwood One podcast network. This one, I looked up rusting teas and the look similar new arrivals, discuss duties, interim bucks. We got the ski of own drip from what happened. Of course, it's Tony Shirvani. What does the drip have to do with anything? I have no idea. Okay. I don't listen to podcasts. I love how your soul, like just cer- overseeing a lot of stuff. Do you know the drip is Jack Slade, you know, the drip is what we know what the Jack is probably the summer thing. She's the drip. How about slap dick nation, no clue stuff from his podcast. So he's got a huge following. These are all podcast shirts and then but then we got the Shane Douglas is up there. Now launch this stores. He lost his store juice, raw juice. Robinson. Those are those in new Japan shirts that you're looking at right there. So juice assign new Japan. So new Japan will send me shirts, like for juice and then juice will semi shirts for his own lines. Yes. So like he'll he has his own store, but the new Japan has designs for him specifically. Man, there's a lot of stuff to talk about here, but I just want to go through a lot of new Japan things. You got mount Toro Yano that's just a bunch of weird looking specifically, Jim Ross. It's all the same guy looks like Jim Ross loss, Ingo number. How do you pronounce it in Gobber Nobelists they hip on. Is that a pretty good seller? Huge. Mike, is everywhere. There's lots of stuff there Kimberley. Oh, that's a cool in the Ramones and it's raised. I like new top salary. That's like one of our tops that's nerd, but let me ask you this. So so we're looking at Ramones and it's spelt RAM Owen s and it's the four guys of the Ramones with raise the Ramones head on all of them, right? If I'm working for the Ramones or the MOS, I'm going to call you and say, dude, uses total rate copyright infringement. Probably you ever get that all the time. So. So tell me some of the ones that you've gone for. Coperating fridge, Jack Daniels Daniels for who like Candice. Laret Jack Daniels shirt jacks leads, Fred, who's arrest. Time. LEGO for Johnny Gargano sends me a season that says, I did a McDonald's a season desist for for a mousse, t shirt vans for, I don't know. I, I get 'em all the time. So what happens if you get a cease and desist, you just he takes down the shirt and you stop selling gonna fight anybody? No, not at all. I mean, parody law. I don't know anything about it. I don't have time and if they're not selling two thousand shirts, then why do I care? Right? And it's one of those things like if you're if you're under the radar nose-to-nose but now that you're on the radar. Yeah, you're probably gonna get pompously when you put like LEGO in the title you put Jack Daniels in the title that they somehow find it, which is probably have copyright guy through and there's these wrestlers are uploading their own stuff. So we don't. I mean, I don't sit there monitor every single thing that they put up. But if you have like you said, a thousand people on board, there's only you can take care of. Right. I mean, I just I just kind of let them do what they wanted. These are. I say that these are the rest. Slurs stores are we're just printers. So like wrestlers put up their own merchandise, they market their own stores, it's their own stores. So they kind of take responsibility in the contract. They do take responsibility for their own stuff. So it came down to it. The wrestler's hands would get sued. I kind of I help him out the big g's for cheeseburger. Yeah, this guy is white on here, cheeseburgers block yet. I, I think some guy in Japan may that forum cheeseburger just got an out. So my crews and I had so many people. I love cheeseburger before I even saw. I just love the name and I was expecting like some kind of chubby fat, like white guy that he's a cheeseburger down to the ring, and then I met him. He's like a skinny African American cat. And he's I said, why are you? Why are you call cheeseburger? He said, because he's super nervous, right? Because you know one of his heroes or what he's like. Everybody was like, I was so skinny. When I went trust the school, they said, I needed to tease burger. So I thought this should be my name like God's good one sticks up, and then we got the young bucks versus rock and roll express. That's kind of cool. Dream match shirt. A dream match? Yeah. A lot of those like dream matches like people like what if the young bucks fought legion of doom? What if the young bucks, but that's cool. So how do you. Designate the royalties for sure. Yeah, I'll split four ways. We'll to go to the bucks, and then I deal with Ricky and Robert directly. So like I, I have the ability to split commissions between everyone. Even the artists gets paid a little bit. Tell us about working with regain Robert. Yeah, it's fun. You know when we when we were talking about said, we didn't use to sell merchandise, we did, but didn't have like professionals shirts like you guys yet and being Lance storm where the sun impact, they'll send where we call the thrill seekers, and I hated going to sell merch before my match. Yeah, as Paul Stanley would never go. So merge before the kiss show or after? Yes, I was kind of like a snob and they're like, you know, that was got so much heap at those guys would go out there and sell anything. They would buy a bed. You strip it into twenty pieces, right? Aren't are express on sell them as official rock. 'n roll express headbands. Yeah. So they were like the master someone would give them like a, you know, here's the license plate holder with a confederate flag on. Thank you so much. You put on your car and you put the, they would take it which the person left sign it and be official rock and roll express license plate holder, and it's perfect. So what kind of stuff do they do. Hera's made tons of designs for them. I think they're older designs, but that's how I was like, hey, you made these designs, you think we could sell them, and that's how I think he deals with them. So he kinda hooked us up to what are your designers we lives in Japan. Yeah, lives in Japan. He's actually the designer of the original bullet club t shirt. So that's the whole thing too. I want to discuss that there's less I'm still want to kind of look so fine on the this is pro wrestling tease dot com. Now, if I wanna see the entire lineup. The site would crash. If you try to see the entire. One thousand shirts. Oh, so I had to be specific and go actually, look. I mean, we have like top sellers for the month or for the we we have it all separated by wrestler. We can do like by promotion. But if you try to search every single shirt case, wrestler own stores that be without when I would go to. So if I go to wrestling owned stores, I'm trying to look for a really obscure person. Remember, Justin Roberts had some t-shirts up. Justin Roberts has really funny shirts of him with like the golden girls around him. They sell like seven or eight shirts. I think he's, I think he's still a good amount when he first left WWE I used to bug him about, I'm like, who the hell is going to buy that stupid shirt, the golden, all those are top sellers at the top and you've got like the spotlight recipe music. Yeah, let's go to music and see if you guys are big, big fifty, six fans. Do we know if if we heard he's in, I t. He's in, I t all these in annexed knows name and antics. So how can you have shirts while he doesn't have that name? In annexed? T. Okay. He's got a biff rules shirt here available to sell tons of shirts, really. Well, geez, I guess I should get scroll down to the very up to snuff always music. Okay. You're still at the top like two hundred. Oh my gosh. It just keeps going and going and going. All right. So I'm just gonna. I'm gonna heroism. I'm scrolling down. I'm gonna close my eyes and just pick a name and you tell me what they do. Jordan Len, no clue that is no. Okay. Jordan I listened and this is nothing guys go on and support Jordan linn, Nick Radford. Not a lot, right? No. How about this guy won a couple more here? Sonny. Boy. If you guys like a sunny boy shirt, you guys go to tease backslash sunny boy. He's got some pretty cool shorts here. I'm sure sunny boy's a fine probably would beat the shit out of me. So it's funny what Frank Franks known as the barracuda mailbox. Bomber era, Khuda mailbox bomber, you know, like when we were little, he's he's to wrestle with with his friends. So we put up a barracuda mailbox bomber tee-shirt. It's got a picture of a barracuda in a mailbox with a bomb on it. And how many, how many years have you sell? Four shares. Wow. No one knows who he is. Never been. Never been an actual wrestler. That's four more than you probably should have sold. The last one on here is Zinke dice, we know Zeki. Okay, so could and they look, we're not taking the piss out of these people. These are hard working performers. Please support them if you go to local show and see them. But basically what my point is that you have everybody on your everybody wants the Voyles twins. Jock brought them back. So go by Voros twins shirt as well. Like every day we'll get maybe ten sign ups on the website, not just wrestlers though. So we do podcasts and promotions and new sites and everything. We have different categories. So like we'll let anyone in the wrestling industry open door policy. If you have, you have to have a certain amount of social media followers which is ten thousand tween Twitter, or you could pay fees. So it's it's like between Twitter, Instagram, Facebook, you have ten thousand Twitter followers. We'll set up your store for free and everything. So because when Don callous, what got back in the business, he was trying to get some Don calendars of social media fall, right? So like, but does he have enough now? Yeah. Okay. So like if if you pay seventy five dollar fee, we'll set it out. I mean, obviously if you have like one hundred Twitter followers probably not going to sell them any shirts. Just to be honest. I mean, let's be honest. People always go off. I can just get ten percent of my social media followers to buy something. Didn't work that way. Yes, it's like point zero zero zero, one percent. So we charge seventy five dollars, but I'm like, hey, sell eight shirts and you're making your money back, you know. So like I mean from there, I'll I'll do whatever you want. You got a lot of big, Japan merchandise just set up the big Japan store, like subtly that was like twenty year olds are a lot of design. He. They don't have a lot of new designs, but I'm like semi all your old stuff. It's really cool designs. We'll just put them. So we sell a lot of old style. We do a lot of old wrestling shares, like we were will recreate really old shirts from like the seventies and stuff like that, but that's kind of cool. That's retro. Yeah, you know. 'cause that's Bobby Kaminski from block craft. And I are working on Jericho retro. Yeah, it's cool. It's interesting though. Like I said, they just looking through here the some great look insurance at everybody has a chance to to have some earthquake when I was in WCW. I asked Bischoff I get a shirt made. Yeah. And he said at you don't make any money off shirts. I said it's not about making the money. It's the perception perception is reality if they go to show and they see a hulk, HOGAN shirt and a DP shirt and a Booker t. shirt and no, Chris Jericho. Sure. That makes me look like nothing if there's a Jericho shuttled care. If it's so zero, it's still up there, right? So once again, I had to go get it made by myself some guy that knew some guy commercial for it. It's just amazing how much merch has progressed yet to where now everybody has a shot. So when I first came up with the idea for pro wrestling tease, maybe a little before I reached out to WWE because they cold hooked us up like the cold was talking to someone in WWE. They sent me a couple of designs to test prince. I December. They sent me one a year shirts, like a blue shirt. With y, two j. And I think it had like a silhouette of you and then like an undertaker shirt delayed, send us some shirts. We'll see like maybe they were looking for a new printer at the time. It was that WWE. Wow. Okay. So I sent them like shirts just as a test. They didn't really work with digital printers. So they wanted to see like how would look and I'm like, hey, I got this idea for like a teacher website where we can set up a store for each of the annex t just started two thousand twelve or something like that. We'll set up a store for each of the guys in annex t because you guys don't make merge for these guys and you don't make Mercs for some of the lower card people in WWE. So we can set up a store for all these guys and they can all have merchandise and we'll cost you anything. And they were like, no, we're not gonna do that. They don't deserve merchandise, stuff like that. Like they don't just they said they didn't deserve, but they don't. They're not going to Selmer. They're not a big enough draw to sell merchandise. They're not like John CENA. So I'm like, I'm like, I don't. I don't. I think everyone should sell merchandise if they market it the right way. If you have a big social media following, you're going to sell merchandise. So Mike, all right. I'll just start my own site. So that's kind of I think that's kind of what pushed me to open up parole. Pro wrestling TS to give everyone a chance to sell merchandise, even if you're nobody sure you can sell merchandise. Let Franken sell merchandise. Well, he's four. Yeah, there you go. You might even sell the fifth one. Is there agents we gave the Jack Slade category, the skinny Englishman, the thin white dude. But I mean, they've is very specific with their merged because I can see that there are people that don't have merged. Yeah, they're doing a lot more now with people like like newer guys. I don't get a frigging ribbon for for the patient. If you're not over enough, you don't get merged simple as that, whereas for you. Yeah, anybody can have merged. At least they have something up because we don't stuck inventory. So we have ten thousand designs, but we don't have ten thousand series. Imagine a lot of people don't understand like why it takes seven to ten days for us to actually get the order printed and ship it out. I mean, we're getting thousands of shirts a week. We can't. We don't have inventory. We're not not WWE where we pull it off the shelf and ship it out. We have, they'll order it and printed and sort it and, but that's not financially feasible anymore, especially Bill. You said you have the cyber warehouse with, you know, ten thousand shirts, but you don't have to stock anything, right? You know, let's talk about the young bucks here. Yeah, we'll talk. So that's one thing we do stock down bucks bucks have just gone off the charts all across the board. I mean, hot topic number one seller until the club came out and now they're distant number two. Thank you very much. Joking, of course, actually, I'm not, but you've got so much bullet club and so much young bucks get. When did you start seeing the whole phenomenon of the young bucks begin think it was probably when they joined Bulla club. I think they were always selling a lot of merchandise. They're hustlers. Yeah, definitely. They once they joined bullet club, I ca, I can't remember exactly when, but it was just all of a sudden they just started selling tons of merchandise and obviously I'm gonna work harder for the guys that are selling merchandise. So I'm constantly coming up with ideas every day. I'm I'm texting with Matt, like, hey, let's let's do this. Let's do that so far as making different times different designs of merch, her different products like what's like some of the most ridiculous products that they have. I mean today, I today, I talked to man, I'm like, hey, why don't we make. Some headphone ear buds so they can listen to your new. You know, the YouTube show being the elite, and then we'll do it as an add onto every order. We'll charge like five bucks for little ear buds that say, being the elite now everyone can listen to being the elite with their own being the elite. You know. You know, so smart bury the the bear that you know about that the bear that they have that for being the elite, they and all in the show and they just revealed. It was Kenya mega. So we came to bear cost. You bear costume bury the drug-free bear. We just we just made plush bears with all in t shirts. We're gonna start selling those ring of honor's going to start selling them to. So like just do. We'll just do any. I'll go told me started wearing a weight, built in the ring is doing. Oh, I saw those the other day you're salivating already. I think people are like, I can't believe you're selling all this weird stuff. I'm like, we sell bull club belts and socks and water bottles. I mean, you should meet gene Simmons. He would love you got the different kiss mentality. You can put young bucks on it or bullet club salad Berlet club condoms, Sherwin number one with a bullet, I tell I just ride it while lasts like I don't. I mean, I don't know when when or if they might go to WWE, but I soon if they ever do that, we won't be able to sell their merchandise anymore. So I mean, why not try to capitalize so much money on Mercer would be is because one thing I talked to somebody yesterday was asking me some advice on that. Debbie does not does not budge when it comes to the merchandise as far as the percentage is that guys get that will not change at least take a very special case for it to change. Yeah, but you know, that's I think I would assume that the young bucks are making tons of cash, not just from pro wrestling teas. Yeah, that's actually where I, I heard about pros and tease when I had them on my podcasts years ago. The gift say, yeah, young bucks, Mercedes, go to proceed. Now they have their own merchandise, say they do their own stuff. So they'll do stuff that's not interesting teases. They'll get leggings in, they'll do autographs, and posters and stickers. So they got young book, young bucks merch, and then they got the hot topic deal. So they got three different avenues and then they've got if they do independent shows, they'll sell their own merchandise there too. Early, got four different ways. So for merchandise, where's the hot topic tie in come in with all of this? So Joe's the buyer at hot topic. He he, he reached out to me. I think after wrestlemainia last year it was like I saw so many Bulla club t shirts there. We are you guys in a retail store and I'm like, no, I've always wanted to get into something. So he went to wrestlemainia. Yeah. And saw all these bullet. Yeah, usually huge wrestling fan. So he went and saw he saw everywhere I go. There's bullet club's shirts everywhere, knowing who they were just seeing the shirt? No, I think he, I think he knew got club was, but he's, I think he said there was like more bullet club shirts and John CENA shirts or something like that. I can't remember, but so he's like, maybe we. Should get these in in in all of our stores. And I'm like, sure. Let's do it in initially. Usually when they test out products, I think they do like a thousand two thousand items as a test. They put in an eight to ten thousand ten thousand peace order initially for Bulla club. Just right off the bat, which is like shocking. I guess they did for the alpha closer to them. Yeah. So like normally with like a new license there, don't. They said nobody in hot topic even knew about new Japan or Bulla club. It was really only Joe that knew about it. He's like, we should do this. So that's kind of how it started. Does that fall back on the you then because you could make designs the license in in the US to print the stop. Nobody else does Elliot's right now. So I, I've been printing it since for I think three years now I've got the almost exclusive license in the United States, but we do ship worldwide. So he's he came to me and was like, how do I get these shirts? I'm like, let me talk to new Japan. So I kind of brokered the deal between new Japan and hot topic. He signed a deal that allowed us to do that. What's unique about the deal is instead of paying new Japan, the full royalty. If the, if the shirt belongs to a wrestler, let's say we're doing a bully club young buck shirt. The let me split the royalty. So now I get to pay the wrestlers directly and they get paid right away. And when that happened when we did the alpha versus omega. Yeah, exa-. Exact year Brady decided sell the Tokyo dome. Yeah, but then they gave us the right to sell it some progressing teas, but you still have to cut them in for a certain amount. Right. We had to cut them in. Yeah, right. So how is it working with the Japanese? Yeah, I, it's it's easy. I guess. I mean initially was hard. I think once I started selling shallow to merchandise and doing this hot now before I would send them, hey, look at this cool. Bullock club shirt I made and they're like not approved. Everything was not approved. Nope, they don't wanna do it now. Almost everything's approved. I'll send them a new design. They'll be like, do it. So new Japan owns the rights to the bullet club? Yeah, trademarked and everything. Wow. Wasn't thin. Ballard the guy who thought of it. What didn't he trade market? I don't know. Once again, gene Simmons told me trade monk, everything trademark everything if you try and make any shirts. Yeah, Jericho, I own all the trademarks. I tell you that right now, but finless be kicking himself because the bullet. Love is everywhere. I think they wanted to do bullet club over over and WWE, but yeah, didn't own it. Yeah, both lives even bigger than the young bucks in terms of Merck sales. Yeah, definitely. Because there's so many different styles clubs though. The original bullet club shirt is probably our, it's definitely our highest seller of all time. It's it's still like an atop three of like currently, even though it's been around for three or four years, the original black and white five years. I don't know. I don't remember when exactly we I printed it, but. The Austin three sixty. Exactly. A lot of people say that it has that feel like awesome. Three sixteen or like the end wwl it's just black and white. Simple, cool design. And that's kind of what attracted people like when you watch WWE. Like I think those, I don't know if it's just me, but those sorts standouts a me like I could. I could spot a bowl club shirt, like anywhere I've learned over the years that like slogans shirts usually pretty good. Like you said, like like a bullet club with the desire, for example, the shirts that had the head my face on it. Yeah. With the exception of the COPA. That's different because it had a different feel and look like just to color face of you. Those those sell for shit. Some of them do. But yeah, you're right. I mean, it's got that old school nineties field, and some people don't like that anymore. They like the more logo logo style or text routes a fight style. You know those type thing because that's the other roots of fight Canada's on that. And everybody just rips it off. Yeah, basically, it's they, they came up with their own style. I think it's just textual in it, but it's so cool. I mean, they should trademark day on low almost all their shirt. So I wear them all the time. But yeah, when did, who is the original bullet club? Do we know this who is a reasonable club. Carl Anderson and then Tom, a- Thomas conga and who else? So so gal. Tongans or kind of the forgotten members of the bulk of they must be kinda pissed. I don't know. I, I'm sure they feel. I'm sure they feel I Don. I think they're still huge in Japan. I mean, they've got their own little thing going on right now. It's I I think it's kinda like half like you got the the guys over here in America that around the ring of honor style, and then you've got the ones that are still new Japan every day. What is your all time? Biggest seller. Boca the original bull rhythm club? Yeah. Wow. On pro wrestling tease alone, we did like maybe thirty thousand pieces. That's a lot. That's a lot. I mean, then you've got all the wholesale like ring of honor wholesales from us. We sell the Las Vegas, fight shop police places. Plus you add hot topic in there. I mean, it's got to be like close to one hundred fifty, two hundred thousand. Who's your biggest individual talent seller like you? Bullet club is a gang, but yeah, person young bucks, young buck, young bucks. What about for one guy? Mardi girl, mardi squirrel. Yeah, really? Yeah. I saw you had mardi sterling umbrellas for sale in there. Yeah, he's another guy. I'll just do anything. I mean, we got weird looking masks that we got made and we're those masks is a plague doctor from the. So we just made like. Doc off ones, and it's a great yoursel does. Yeah, it's cool. He sells tonsil our top three sellers last year, twenty seventeen. We're bucks skirl and then Steve Austin top now because for a while punk was getting all of his shirts meet here too. Yeah, he still has the original still does. He's still sell some decent Murray sells a good amount. He's still like a top ten seller. Even though he's not on TV or anymore. W. w. still send you designs from time to time. I sent him designs. We got a couple of coming out some exclusive c to e two's a comic convention here in Chicago next weekend that we come up with two new came up with two new designs for that. So I'll I'll I'll throw him new designs once in a while and then we, we put up new stuff and I, it's interesting. I was laughing because I I met your mom before and she's like the accountant. She does human resources and accounting human resources. What does that mean? You know, deals with the employee's and like probably how many employees do you have thirty thirty employees. Yeah. Wow. Fulltime since when pro. I mean, we've always, I think we had like twenty last. Here and now now he added another ten, right? I don't know, because you said you said you just open the kind of the brick and mortar store because before we all just just the online, but now you actually have a store. Yeah, but nobody runs it. The best thing about this is that the store the store causes nothing to run. We have this facility for wrestling crepe, but the front, we locked the door and you have to walk through on our tease. And then we have one of the employees over there come in and help the customers. We don't necessarily have someone that sits in the store that we're paying. The merchandise is it's there, but we don't. It didn't cost us anything like, like I say, tourist destination, but is getting it is. I mean, we have people come from all over the world not just for the store, but they're visiting Chicago. It's a big tourist destination. They're like, oh, I have to go by pro wrestling. Tease people come take pictures by stub. We have a lot of in store exclusives Bulla club, Chicago line Mark, like we'll do a lot of new Japan with like just the Chicago flag through it. So people come because they can only get it here. We won't ship it anywhere. It's interesting. I remember not this time, but a couple times ago I was driving. Down the road downtown is a big giant tease billboard away. You can see that we've got tons. Then we put coltan all the billboards. No, why cold? Because he was the Boji or what? Yeah. I mean without him we wouldn't really have paroling tease does he have a piece of the company? He is a small interest in it. He. I mean, he helped me started if it wasn't for him and you actually, I was gonna, say, colts command the cruise, but you brokered that deal as well? Yeah, I, yeah, I did. I I wanted to bring him on and he's he does a really funny show and I think you guys will like it. It's called unprofessional wrestling Russ, I'm really excited. Do you like you know, mystery size, either style jokes over because you're actually doing the official merged for the for the crews as well. Pleasure. C. three awesome designs and you're hustling. How did you reached out to sixth man? Who's promoting the crews and asked them if you could do it, right? Yeah, it'd be a sponsor. Why not? Why not be part of the? Yeah, I I mean, it's is not. There was a wrestling Cruz back in the day like this, though. Those are shit. I wanted to be a part of it. So why? Why not make the merchandise? It's unbelievable, man. I, it's, it's really interesting to me how you've expanded so much because once again, this very niche market, but if you can strike gold like you did niche polite, who else does it this? What I mean, nobody's doing it right. So we started a while ago. I mean, we got, I, I'd say, we, we got lucky, but I don't know. I wanna talk to you about some of the appearance they have it. I lower sitting here in the in the pro wrestling crates explained that because every every month, yeah, somehow I got a crate from the WB and science fiction, crate, right? I don't know how Luke crate after crate. Does the slam crate? So we do. We bought the company from a couple of guys. I used to own top. Pro Tuesday, they started pro wrestling crate and they want to do anymore. So they asked me if I wanted to buy it and I'm like, sure. I'll buy the about three hundred subscribers at the time that we bought it. Now we're pushing thirty five hundred, which is a lot a month. Yeah, thirty five hundred subscribers scribe. So how much does it cost to subscribe? You can get it's as low as ten bucks and as much as forty, five dollars shipping. So you can get our main box is you get to t shirts or exclusive designs, custom soft, soft nightshirts to shirts and autographed eight by ten DVD a little micro brawler figure that we custom make. In China, we get them shipped over here our own figure. We got collectors pins and every crate since is throwing a poster and then like a fun little collectible. Everything's like a mystery. So nobody knows what they're getting, but they know what wrestlers are in the crate. So we'll be like we have like nine wrestlers for this crate. That's last month. We did the golden era. So we did there was like a HOGAN in a steamboat shirt. And then we did like Jake, the snake autograph and you've got Tito Santana pin. You said a whole box of eight by tends to Jake and say sign, yeah, or we'll find men here. So I mean, sending them to the sending them to them is one thing, and then sometimes we'll fly him in for like a day and just they'll just sit here and sign autographs all day for us. It's it's, it's a fulltime job and I do it all myself. It's pretty difficult. I don't. I curate the whole entire box. I, I help I help with the design, Dave art designer kind of designs a lot of stuff, but I'll have to come up with the ideas and reaching out to the wrestlers and saying, hey, do you like this? And then everything's a theme. So like I can't just grab a bunch of random wrestlers throw him into this box. So it's it's pretty difficult. And then you have to like overall deals with the mold, you have to separate deals for each guy? Yeah, each guy I'm just like, hey, I could pay you this much wanna do it. Yeah, know. And then they just do it. So like like one guy might get it and bucks while my get five thousand bucks, I don't know what they want, whatever and every and if they like it, then that's great. But there's a lot of guys that don't like it. So I have to go back to the drawing board and try to figure out. Who who I could put in this crate like we're doing best of the Indies this month. It's got, you know, all the bully club guy, the being the league is got a Chucky Taylor and Chuck Taylor item Trump Harada bread, a bottle opener. Yeah, it was. I supposed to say that. No don't. Okay. That's the exclusive here. His exclusive. And there's also eight by ten of Jackson heights. Friend. Yeah, we're not going to see that. Don't say that. Don't say that he or she knows who she is at least. So this are actually biggest our highest selling month for that crate people by per month to do you subscribe for the year? Yeah, you can just do a month. Simplest one month cancel you could do a whole year subscription if you wanted to do a lot of gifts for people and we'll have about eight people like lined up all through here and we'll all those boxes back there. We'll pack Jamal in got the tape machine. Is it amazing to you? How popular wrestling is right now? Yeah. I mean, Indy wrestling is it's it's amazing how much it's grown from when. I didn't know anything about any wrestling now. We know everything about it. I don't. I mean, I couldn't. I can't believe it's huge, you know. And I was gonna say, interesting, especially in general because before he, you know, there's WWE there was w w w, right. Oh, earlier than that, you'd go make some money in Japan or Mexico that kind of went down now. New Japan is so hot WBZ super hot and St. super hot water. Soubra Awa in frigging, you know, bro wrestling, you know, being us as big time on in Australia, all over the place. Pursing Pena's. Go watch the show. If you want to see that one, it's a favorite Jackson as favourite. But I mean, just everywhere every country. Right, you know. And so the end Cillari benefits for a businessman like yourself, the bigger the businesses, the better your businesses to? Yeah, of course. I mean, the more they sell the more popular, they are the more the more we sell. I mean, the more contra I, you know, I was think like, why was trying to figure out why the young bucks. Sells so many shirts like and I feel like they have such a huge fan base, but they also have such a like the group of people that hate them, like they hate the young bucks. They always give them so much shit online, and I feel like that fuels their popularity like people wanna like them more so they keep buying their merchandise. I'm just like it's crazy. The biggest stars, anything are never one hundred percent like nor should they be right is if you're not pissing people off some people, you're not doing your job, you hang because that just makes your fans love you even more. Make sure detractors hate you even more is just as keeping you, you know more in the public eye. Right? You do meet and greet sear, like autograph signings per se. I notice the Vicki grill coming in. Yeah, autograph autograph autographing photos. We got Greg Valentine, Tito Santana, CoCo. Beware was bringing whoever I don't care. We'll bring in anyone to sign autographs and. I don't even I don't even profit from most of the stuff. I'll I as long as I break even and give the fans like a cool experience. Like I'm excited to have them in the store and bring all this stuff to Chicago. It's pretty cool who are some of the characters if to do with because those old school guys could be kind of a little bit off the rails sometimes like how old we talk in. Like if you're talking about Coby wear Jake, the snake or Greg, the hammer any of those type of Jake's. Awesome. He's really cool to deal with Jason here a couple of times. I, some of these guys I don't deal with. I deal with like their their agents are mad at people. Yeah, but I'm excited to meet him for sure. Yeah. Well, I mean, I, it means Chicago's such a big wrestling town, but are a lot of the people coming from Chicago that people come from all over mostly all over. You mean wrestlers or like people for people to meet and greet. Most of the people for the mean greets are our like our local people, but like we when we, our grand opening, we did a bullet club meet-and-greet. I saw that on after the ring of honor show, we had all the. Members over here, not all of them, but the the ones from the elite being the elite, they came in, we had people from all over the place. I think they said like sweet. Someone's was here from Sweden, Australia. They came the whole, I would. I can't say that they were here just for our event, but like the ring of honor show was the night before mega was coming in defending his belt for the first time. So like, yeah, they, they came in, they came from all over the country. They were like, we, we stayed an extra day just we can come here. It was huge. We have the news, here's the deal for us down the block. Oh yeah. How does can you make it? So yeah, huge, huge at. I mean, he's right up there with like Marty and and the bucks and Cody. I mean, they also really well, that's the thing that I love about is those guys. They don't have to go to Debbie anymore. They can. You mentioned young bucks or mardi or Cody, like would would they be as big if there was no bull club? I don't know. It's all based around the bullet. I don't know. I mean, I think that they could be they definitely. They definitely are have the talent and they're, they're great wrestlers and everything. But if there was no bullet club, like, I don't know if like. A lot of the top selling shirts are bullet club parodies. It's like, I don't know if they would sell as much if like we didn't have the the Stephen a. mail. Yeah, Stephen elegant sell. It's not a bullet clips. Right? He did the bullet club Perry like the bully club parodies. That's what people want. I mean, the bucks'll tons of shirts that are not the bulk la- period, but that's their top-selling shirt. The alpha club is kind of a bulk, LaPierre you. It looks a little different in. Yeah, but, but yeah, I mean, that's it's just it all it all comes from the bullet club. It just, but now at this point I don't think they need the bully club anymore. When I was in Japan, there was a lot of loss, ignore eyebrows, ignorant ignore, has it in over for the ignore, Ables, ignore, ignore. Again in Gober Nobelists ING, Bill Burr. Lots of Ingo. Bernabe lays. Yeah. We had Naito here at the shop. He was here. He did a meet-and-greet. He was awesome right on. Yeah, Frank had to drive in the airport. Pretoria, big conversation. He's got a giant head. Say that you guys both have really big ED's not all hair though. If you if you take his wig off, he's just got a little. I'm like that hit the hairs Osei. Yeah, he's got crazy hair. I love the Japanese style of like, okay, I'm going to grow this hair out, but just in a certain area or the backout and a little bit on the sides, and I'm going to color at kind of brownish. Orange. Yeah, so it's not normal. Right? And especially because he has a giant head. So there you go night until you big headed dummy. But blots emerged, merchant Japan for for the l.. Yeah, they're, they're huge here too. In the states. Yeah. I mean, I mean they've got, we put them in hot topic. We just put a new one in there. The cub, Ron one, it's it's one of the top selling new arrival really. It makes me laugh or the Japanese guy sells a lot of merchant the states with the Spanish words. I know. Right? Yeah, that's weird. To I was always holding his I if something in Mexico. Ni- ni- ITO isn't it? I I eat all night. I'm not sure what it is. I don't know whatever it was crazy Japanese can ever figure them out. Last couple questions. Do you go to a lot of wrestling shows now? Yeah, I'm probably not actually know how many. Yeah, no, I was just in Long Beach for the new Japan show. I've never been to suicide flew out there this weekend, frankly, went up was it was awesome. Yeah, it's really cool. We met the hot topic people there. We took him to the show. It was really cool how we go to ring of honor shows when they're here. We used to go to Royal rumble, like all the time. We don't go anymore. I don't. I don't have much time with working so much hours. I spent here in the shop so to some probably ten ten hours a day. Frank's here, twelve hours a day. Thirteen hours a day. She's man. Sounds like Frank's really run. The show was busy. I got three kids just a figurehead. It's it's difficult. You're just the Jack Tunney of Peru's tease. Was that. Got it? Yeah. Who last question who's your all time favorite wrestler, Steve Austin knows that like to say that? No. Yeah, not really. Yeah. I mean, you can say that. I mean, he is when I talked to him, I was like sweating on the phone. Don't in this. But yeah, I mean, yeah, I wanna know I wanna know how the conversation went, but you gotta do into Steve Austin, voice. I I can't do. I don't know. Did you call you call you? I think he called me on c. Boston. Yes, shirts, I think I don't wanna this bullshit. I don't like anything about if he sucks. Man. He has the best. He he, he cares so much about his merchandise, but he doesn't know what he likes. So he'll he'll be like, here's thirty designs. I need these thirty designs in like four different color t shirts, then I'll decide maybe I like five of them. So I'll send them all these shirts and he's an, you know he'll wear for show on CMT the broken skull challenge. Yeah. So I'll send them like all these different colors, all these designs and he'll pick like four or five end up sending him like sixty. Shirts, and he'll only pick like five that he likes, but the thing that's cool about it too. Just as we wind down. You split with the wrestlers pretty much fifty fifty, correct. Yeah. After Costco's, it's about fifty fifty specifically about after costs costs. It's about ways you said you're not going to get that. You know, when you're in WB your banking, you know significantly less, right? So we started the company to give wrestlers money. I never really thought it was going to be this big kind of I kind of wish at the beginning. I didn't initially start with like this high royalty, but whatever. So I started started goal. I started the company promoter like I wanted to give rustler's extra money. Maybe they meet maybe they can make money to pay the rent or pay for gas to go to these shows. I don't know. So that's why we started the company to make wrestlers extra money. So I was like, I'm not trying to get rich off these wrestlers. What's do like a fifty fifty split up to cost of goods? And it's like it comes out to like thirty to fifty percent royalty, and that was that kind of a favored nation that never changes for anybody that if you're working with somebody like, you know, you'd have to say specifically, but if it's in Austin, is it still the same rate? I think we, if he hits a certain number, I'll. Him bonus, stuff like that. There's there's a lot of different. Like if you had had multiple prints brings down your percentages, if you you know stuff like, Gotcha stuff like that. And what's your favorite shirt? Favorite shirt, man. I don't know the other day I was saying that that Ramon shirt is might be my favorite shirt. That's awesome. I don't know. I'm trying to think what's my Frank? What's your favorite shirt. Franklin wearing the same plain black guild and t shirt. I for eight years. He wears the same shirt. Do you want like a nice soft money? He's like, no, gilding, eight thousand my all right. I think the bully club Chicago shirt that we made day. It's like, you could do that for every city. I could. Yeah, club Winnipeg shirt? Yeah, maybe maybe. So it's like the bullet club designed is probably my favorite, but then when we put the flag in it now it's now it's like it's kinda like my shirt. Right. Doors to go to different cities. They have a different shirt with Eddie in front of Madison Square Garden in front of the United Center. You could do that for we should start this. They cut me in on it. Yeah, bullet club's shirt with whatever city live ins flag flex cities. Yeah, but none of them are great. Oh, he's got like, who is like the Chicago Chicago flag. I didn't know there was this Chicago flag there is it's got the. I mean, see 'em punks gear is Chicago flag. It's got the four stars in the blue. So if I'm living in Cheboygan. Yeah, probably not a great flag. Now, I don't know. Texas has a coup flag, but that's not the whole state and then counsel be good. You can do steakhouse born. He's got a cool flag, but I don't know any other flags, do you? I don't know any. Flag master. We'd just Google it. Okay. Final thing we're going to go through the. We're going to go, do I'm going to spin through all of these people. I'm going to pick one out. Yeah, I'm gonna buy it. I'm going to give it away to a lucky listener on at talk his Jericho on the Twitter. You ready? Okay. Actually, Jack came over here. I mean, Jack Slade. My intrepid assistant, we're going to spin through these and you're going to just choose one and whichever one gets you close your eyes. The phone, their kids put your finger down the mysterious Movado. All right. 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RE: Staying In The Band & Reality TV

Pen Pals with Daniel & Rory

1:00:07 hr | 1 year ago

RE: Staying In The Band & Reality TV

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It's true crime time stoppings martorana going. Maybe we can keep it in the old. Days can't shooting over at love. If if people took this amazing song that patrick in the winter of the winter sounds made and then they covered it like could you imagine amy man or a bette better cover of that head eve ed's. We all love the thank you wanna be. My friend pound pow being grab you better than your paper noise. He thinks has miami vetter. Yes eddie better more better yeah. I'm gonna to cover being far better. I'm better than better. I'm eddie better better than hi eddie better. I'm eddie better what we found out in this moment eddie vedder listens to pen pals who guys if you're a pet pallor penny out out there and you know eddie vedder we just ask him if he listens to the show or actually just everybody tweet adam and maybe he'll be like i don't know maybe i'll take it out what i mean ragging knives. It's not even it's not even good. Not only is it not in the same county in the same state state. I think it's too good hartson dobbs. They a away. I then try to make a career ear out of this because you jokingly told me i sounded exactly like ask. You think i'm joking. It's up there with your adderley woman behind the counter in a small town one two three four point drag nine <music>. Here's the thing i'm joking. Do you want me to go for it. Yeah really really try using like actually try to sing okay. This is what i want you to do because i already think you sound elmo's as good as but i want to hear you put your heart and your love and like say like i'm gonna go after this eddie vedder <hes> <hes> performance any better performance as hard as i've gone after comedy okay tha that's what i want you to do and i'm gonna close my eyes with your phone. We just look at the song long as doing elderly woman behind the counter and as we look at the karaoke version of that okay and i'll sing with it. Okay yep already ready yeah. I'm gonna close my eyes. Close your eyes right now. Ready ready all right. Well you soon as you hit play. I'll jump in okay. Oh my gosh burry what okay open my eyes. That was unreal right rory. I felt at that time to felt it. Yeah i could hear the guitar yeah. That's right that the kerry from the karaoke soundtrack yeah it. It was incredible. You need to quit your life. You'd have to hit play again right now. I think it will cry roar. Okay i gotta i gotta stop very close. My throat's dry from singing beautifully. I'm gonna tell you right now. Divorce your wife and leave your child. You need to pursue this okay. If this is real all do that breath worry yeah better than scott stapp. You know yama scottsdale yes yes. You're you're up there with. Oh man i would say. I bet i'm on par with scott stapp. I wouldn't say i'm better than scott stapp right. I don't know you think i am you. You need to cancel your tv. Show all right. This is the only thing is this is what i wanted to you. Try and sing scottsdale. It's me okay okay. I'll close my eyes of karaoke youtube. Are you waiting for the okay. What are you wait. Are you gonna join winning. I is this an all instrumental familiar. Now i'm gonna jump in. It isn't entre minimum. Okay is is it okay magical. Oh my god roller is that good. Is that good. I don't know is that good. You can't hear yourself. I don't know is that what i sound like really good my pants. It's came off. Why why i don't know what that means either weird. You need a belt or something. You can live with me yeah until this. This new career gets going okay until the divorce blows over. It'll blow over all right dude. A lot of musicians have troubled relationships with their children. Okay you're already. I like that will work out because you have the child. You're gonna have to undo some really good fathering that. I know you've done okay. I'm willing to do all that. If you think i can can actually make it using like that. Dude you could do a duet with wing and yeah no no no no you would be duet. Stop it. Is it close if feels like i'm close if it's like i'm so close to like how close you all i don't. I'm askar people listening. That aren't gonna believe how good you are. Maybe i'm more of an impressionist ernest. Though do you think that's the case but when you put it with the singing that's just your voice man all right look. I'm not i'm not here to argue did all right well. Let's not argue. You know we should do hold on. I mean what do you like christopher kraus's. I mean maybe i can sing like him are you. Are you kidding me. Is that good though like. I can't tell if it's good. Is it good if feels like i'm doing good all right. I trust you. You've always been so supportive and trust you were you. Are your your own music festival. You know what i think. I think it might be time to go. What a cold open. What a frigid open. You know what i'll say wondering moderate voices amazing obviously but was that a little self-indulgent maybe yeah myself you were giving you gave to me. Can i tell you what it was. One of those moments where i was giving taking the because i also loved what i was giving propels and maybe it's not always the most traditional open yeah but you know what a lot of you guys sadness shit letters. You just go aww garbage letters. We write a letter you've ever heard on this this show we made up and we read as you've given us nothing to work and we go through them. So you guys were with us. We get. We've never used a real letter. You're like oh my god. This was so close to my original there. Oh my god they're they're taking my letter and then making up a character. You know it's funny. We'll do it a different day. If i remember we we had some business. We had two reviews. I was gonna re marguerite either now 'cause we. That was the most that was the best business what we just did. Somebody just centers to review to. You're going to do it said no. I'm just gonna tell you the they the title the rea- five stars and the title was who is seventy one and then they listed three people and you have to guess which one we'll we'll do that on the next. Can we not do a now. We've done our business to go to the letters. You're a you're a tease and i might not even remember that. I said i'd do it. Should we do that atas alarmist adler and that mike remind me that i said i would read the review who is seventy one so we do a live. Should we go live on the account. Don't know this game we were. We were not that we wanna go live and then keep in this episode. I cut i shut down roy. He's really fun. Idea also leave all that all right. Let's go out to but i want us to do. I want to do this. Am i going. I i okay dear dannon rory yeah yes okay yeah. Yes you know what honestly i'm such a new evolved person. I don't even care anymore. Actually i like it when you this is the musician i have another career now and i think it's gonna put down. I well they say dear. Diana roy alphabetical order is the correct correct. Order importance of human is not reflected so did that. Does that mean. I'm more important. I don't know that is weird because they could have said and also we love dan moore. I'll try to keep this brief hashtag subject to change interesting. We gotta get that merch shirts pants shirts. Okay love the show and i'm dedicated power. I'm a musician hough aw i might this person get into being in my band. I'm a musician whose been touring can we also point out. I know no no one cares what maybe us these symbiotic past harmonizing things that happened. We don't plan them yeah. We you didn't know the letter i was going to do and then we went. We found out your new passion in life more than your family. Okay my name's mike mccready. I'm like oh okay so we are putting abandoning love the dedicated power. I'm a musician who has been touring with the same band for almost seven years now. I'm an original member of the band you say that when you hold over somebody else's head and a lot of my personal expression and care goes into the writing performing and even business side of the music i've always loved listening to comedians talk about their career journeys as i find a lot of similarities the struggles and delights of touring and building a career as a performing artist absolutely to get to it most of my adult life identity is now wrapped up and playing in this band and in touring the world attempting to make stable career out of it. We've given our calendars end lives over to the band and we are all struggling to scrape by right now making an average salary of a thousand dollars a month on the one hand. It's insane to me that i get to make even that much doing the thing i love and it continues to blow my mind some of the bucket list items. I've been able to check off from touring europe and playing bonnaroo two gigantic venues with a leonard skinner. It's all been about the fat. It's all beyond what i fathomed when i when starting this track on the other hand i'm turning thirty three this year and in preparing to propose to my girlfriend in september i fear waking up some day and finding myself trapped in this life i've built for myself which is carefree fun and allows a lot of time for me to travel and explore the trap. My fear is that i may never be able to truly afford a real house children in general stability. My girlfriend and i have talked a lot about marriage and children and agree that we're ready for marriage but not quite financially stable enough to have children. I worry about that window completely going away because i've always wanted to be a dad but the truth is is right now. I'm not home often enough and we're not exactly scrooge. Mcduck and through our swimming pool of gold coins each morning menfolk told us that it's a grind and were sticking out to the ten year ten thousand hours mark and i can't help but feel that truth as we continue to develop our ability to write and perform music and connect with people you're seven is about to be markedly markedly different than where we started from an it feels for finding a nice stride professionally and personally. The music is really taking a new life. We're about to wrap up fronts a new life and we are better friends than ever so my question is this. Is it selfish or foolish of me to continue to chase this dream deeper into my thirties potentially closing doors to having children career opportunities patriots excetera. I always thought it'd be more financially stable by this point in my life and have loved the thrill of creating art vibes with the art. The vibes with people just worried that i have become too serpico pecos style embedded in my own life of being a musician that i won't be able to find a way out. Have you guys ever had a serious moment question whether or not to continue your dream p._s. Please come join us onstage sometime. This is how you start the letter a. Dan rather examine actual singer now. I know i know but he didn't know any wrote the okay sorry <hes> roy a dan rory duet again right order backed by us band would be the pinnacle of all things good in this world for me and skinner giner fans who wouldn't know what hit him. I don't mind using don't as where name of the band because we've all had these conversations and i feel like artists have endured the struggle at some point. If you use the name just as clamor that i have no intentions to leave the group in a merely ask you a question to hear some some insight from my pen pals too often we have thoughts. It's and don't put them out in the universe or anything about them. This letter is another way for me to work through my own thinking thanks for everything y'all do and for the company on long road ours matteo right. What's the name of the band. Should i say it will. He said it was okay right. Okay i think i mean what a great i live for people to maybe check it out and like it or dislike it <hes> wild adriatic soon to be rory scovill all in the wild adriatic's yeah featuring dan van kirk way out the truck just out in the truck but but singing real loud love mike yup. I'll tell you what yes we'll go onstage with his pants and leonard skinner d- i would absolutely absolutely do that. Have you ever done live band karaoke. I think so yes you don't remember a lot of drinking happens in chicago. Where have you ever done <hes> pretty sure i have. Did you ever do show. <hes> potato baked the baked potato. No or <hes> <hes> josh has one. He is the g._d. Comedy song. I wanna learn when he keeps saying hey ready with as long. It's good it's fun to do. It's it's it's wild so for josh <hes> <hes> i think i actually did put one of those out there and then i saw josh well. They did <hes> jim morrison the doors. I did <hes> roadhouse blues. Ooh and i did that twice. He wanted me to do a different song. It was outta festival and we didn't have a lot of time for me to learn a new song. I just did the one i've done before which was so much fun and i love it. I love doing it in fact that's probably the song i'd want to do with wild adriatic if we <hes> if it's fun to do it's such a fun song because it's also also it's when you pick a karaoke song that you're going to do with a live band or not. I always try to pick one is the lead singer known for their voice being like honey butter right. Jim morrison isn't known for his honey but when someone's like hey bill. Let's get caught up here. Collins going to sing. I wanna dance with somebody and i'm like you're gonna sing whitney whitney fucking houston. That's coming up there with fuckin- pearl pipes you. What are you doing or you need to crush. The comedy of. You not being gonna sing. Well and it's a joke. That's so overdone. I've also participated. It's a hack joke by now. I've participated and i will in the future. We'll gladly participate in the hacking of it because because i do get it it is enjoyable. It's it's not well received because people have it's just overdone now yeah. It's overdone but you pick someone. We're like if it's not so much the voice or if like a fun one if you pick a steely dan's on steely dan is amazing amazing and the voices two incredible and you can't hit that voice but the songs are so fun and you can sing it in a fun way. Is this makes sense. Yes this talking to someone. Who's not a big karaoke guy but these are my plans when i know if i'm going to do it. It's like all right right. I'm gonna pick someone who's not a great roy. 'cause i'm not a great point. We cover this. What is your character song. We have covered this right. I think it's been brought up but i don't know that i have i. I think maybe the at one point i had said <hes>. It was <hes> district. David byrne must be the place to fish have words yes. That's that is such. A question is so fucking funny. You'll never know how the question is because you meant it. I've met one hundred percent but it's so funny as someone who loves fish and if someone doesn't lavish that and you don't mean that in a derogatory you're not trying to beat you. Get it do they. Have words is so funny. That is truly funny. Fish fans who like our show. We'll be like that is is a funny 'cause you get ripped on. I don't get ripped on a tough time now that i wanna dig oh you would. I know that you would go to a fish concert in a heartbeat heartbeat one hundred percent and be like let me experience it yeah i know i know that's what makes us a funny like if you said that to be a dick. It wouldn't be as funny but knowing that you asked from from an earnest place. That is such a funny question because i can see why someone would ask that because i also knew i could find the footage of fish. They're not ever singing. It's always like and here's the middle of their crazy jam and that's advertised. Yes it's never liked them actually using the microphones but no they sing on like every every song okay i. There's maybe some i'm not as knowledgeable and there might be some but you go to a concert. It's going to be a lot of singing and the right and a lot of not seeing. There's a lot of jim yeah but the g._m. Is what you want your little high grew. They go into a twenty minute jim. That's a fun honestly. This is what i get some just sinema my buddy jason loon about this yesterday. We're talking about this love inside jason. I get there are people who don't like fish or they don't get fish and they don't care about fish but people who do love fish when you go to a concert and and they go into a twenty minute jam what it's like and it's not the same but what it's like when surfers like oh i just caught a wave and it's huge huge and i'm so far out and i'm gonna get to ride this wave a really long time all the way in when they're on a twenty minute jam you are on a surfboard and you're like this is so much fun writing his yeah. That's how i and my morning jacket does that yes. They jammed to go exactly. Oh we're all in you feel it. Yes so fishers that same thing it's just a little league groovy. It's just a different version of it whereas like my morning jacket has some at times they can have a more metal feel to it not that that's their identity right whereas this fish doesn't really go in that direction. It's just like a little popular not really popular but i think a groovy or as a way better way to describe it so my thing for matteo is first off. How are you in wild adriatic and you didn't add that to the spotify list and should have told us one of his lungs. Well we also when this is a was that a snail mail letter. No it was very here. <hes> was it recently sent. Yeah i mean this song is almost at a million listens. What is while they dramatic. I'm already feeling it. You can see why there was skinner. I already am in. I don't know how much are leading this up. Hopefully you can't enough to make an enjoyable. I mean come on there. He was like guys. Don't claim my son. I'd be like this is good me through there and then i will do that whole album. Okay okay matteo well. Here's my thing hey but but when i played it we honestly didn't like it. We had it that outer. We like dixie like not into it like i'm so glad we both liked it but if we both gave gave each other a look at it out because we believe this it'd be mean we'll leave. This and i'll say yeah because we wouldn't be mean. 'cause we would appreciate the effort. Do you feel bad right. No one wants to hear their best he can give i. I feel like i can give a short answer to this ladder. Okay i can get involved okay. Let me give the broad stroke brought to me is. I'm really interested to hear what you think. This is what you do. This is what you do and this is who you are and when you go but i want to plan for these other contingencies that i don't know if they are me it means you are walking away potentially potentially and i also don't believe matteo is walking away or wanting to walk away no yet eastern great question as struggling artists and and i don't the moneywise i i would say yes a thousand each. A month is not great no granted. They might be a big band kick. Somebody's gonna lose people. You don't need three drummers guys m._c. Hammer didn't need forty forty to fifty four said he found that out he found out the hard way didn't need that but like i think he's just asking brad question. That's very interesting for people who think struggling financially but you're also opening leonard skinner than that's crazy exposure but a lot of people are going to right now. Here's what i closed. Close the door on life stuff to stay true. What is it worth it but what what i wonder. What makes you think you are closing a door on life stuff for instance. You're he's waist thirty three thirty three. I don't know how old your wife wife wife yeah wife or girlfriend. Let's look it up. Go with one or the other. There's never a time in your life that it's too late to get married and also you don't ever have to get married right so oh. That's sort of a moot point in of itself. If you guys are together and you're happy hoop november this was right post <unk>. Gonna propose in september well. What should i mean now tayo editing that out. That's on you but to me it always tell when someone doesn't grow the show with their sick back but he's i think he's aware like the band might unless unless this is doing it. In which case will you marry say. Yes good god playoffs doing that. Okay so yes you know. I should marry him because he worries if he should leave his dreams to start to build a home in a family and that is a guy you want to build a home home in a family with the guy willing to leave and you tell them you don't believe you. You are a fucking museum. Say you say what are we gonna details. The third drummer and i said he should get kicked out of the band. I'm not let me skip over that. I brought back the rocky line. <hes> look the the rocky line is already what maybe three he added twelve months for the next calendar by by the way if you are curious that's what's called the spark by wild adriatic album but feel you don't need because you'll find it on the spot talk about if i play list which we have dona slash don't have this is my thing. Hold on. Let me say this matteo. You talked about ten thousand hours and the ten year deal and you already said you guys are entering year seven and you're on another level in the music is in a new place. You have to know when you get into pursuing the arts that you may not make any money ever or for a long time and then you might make all of the money in the world or you may forever. Just make okay money but that's not why you started to fucking do it. You did it because you like making music you you like writing music creating music and if that's not true you obviously like live performance of the music that you made something keeps you there. Whatever that thing is that keeps you hooked and is the drug you will not ever get that drug from something else your drug is this this this. Is your your drug and if you're at year seven i'm at least grateful because i think whatever that is. I don't even know what year the spark is. In terms of your evolution solution is a band sure. That's already great your i think already integrate spot but if you're you're seven and you're like man. We're started firing all pistons. I'm grateful that you're at least going to go to year ten to find out what happens because i think by year ten you might legit straight up fucking explode and you would have never given yourself that chance to to find out if you would or not but if you wanna have kids kids can always come down the road. You can always have kids in the future like i said. I don't know if that's a conversation. That's on table right now but if you're like oh i feel like i should own a house by now. I think there's a lot of things that we think are important or necessary. Yes if you are going to have a child you do want to be able to provide for that child and so you wanna make sure you've covered all your bases to that degree but at the same time what kind of a life example would you have for that kid. If all you did was walk away from who you are and live an unhappy life to have a child and go. I'm happy with my kid but i'm unhappy in fulfilling my dreams and your kids just goes okay. Was that me some people do that rory and then they resent their kids exactly or or org three kids. The kids are like oh. I guess my dad left his dream because he had me now obviously. Maybe they'll never vibe because i just don't get the impression matteo back type of person. That's my thing. None of these doors have to close. I don't think so find a way to make that life work for you. Be quote unquote traditional yeah but look get these people these fucking tiny houses on h._d._t._v. yeah you tell me look at where you can live yeah. What's what's an expensive. You and your future fiance provided she. She says yes they should. I think it's a no by seven years. She turned this episode. Well she if she says no. You're going to have a great next album. Yes so you save you say guys. Whatever my life is inconvenient so i'm like how detail oriented is this inconvenience to take time because at traffic and then they throw up on stage and you're like fuck traffic from such a report crushes that was hit by a tiny house you had a baby in your wife could live in a tiny house for at least the first three years of that kid's life before it starts to get to even four yeah so and that's once you start may room. They just lived in a room. Thank you ruin it like a dude room. You gotta see room. Seth rogan chat throw gin and franklin room. Let's say you get engaged with two of them drafted. I'd want to tell you how was that not a sketch matteo. Listen it quickly talking to your friends and listen for a second. You get engaged in september now i don't. I don't think you want to get married in less than a year so well. That's gonna be a year a year at least right course so you're on your eight with the band niane your eight with the band and now you guys you're married. I don't think you're going to rush into early thirty thirty three so you got at least four five years so now you four years into haven't before you have a kid. Let's say we'll cut at least four so everything. I just said is five years off from now. Yeah don't these doors are not closing that fast yeah and as long as i liked what you said you wouldn't be just walking away from what you love. You'd be walking away from who you are and i know that you said in a letter. You're not talking about walking away. It's just something you concerned like. When does it kind of click. Click it. I think a lot of us are conditioned to have this thing where we say like all right got to settle down to be an adult now. It's everybody thinks that that's like a thing. We've all been wired. I think that but i think that some of us and i'd like to thank you and i included are saying no. This is the adult i am yeah. This is my version of that reality -ality. It's not like everybody else's. I went to high school with. It's not like everybody else. I grew up. It's pretty awesome my family but it's mine and i'm gonna make it work right. So just prioritize prioritized those that you need to have those things happen and you can find a way to make them work. It will be a unique life for sure right but it doesn't mean that it doesn't have to happen and it doesn't mean even if it does happen and it has to be a bad one right mrs cheers that's exactly right and hit us up again and let us know when you're on tour because because you know damn well if pen pals sixty that did you there on tour. They're on tour but can right now august eighth. They're going to be in davenport august ninth. They're going. It'd be into lido august tenth. They're going to be in grand rapids august fifteenth. They're going to be in charlotte august sixteenth. They're going to be an asheville august. Seventeenth are going to be in franklin. You guys scr wild adriatic is out there lake. George allen data would wear in atlanta. When did i say atlanta. No i'm asking if they're gonna. It'll be in atlanta when we are in atlanta. Hey ain't going to be an allergist told me there's gonna be an atlanta atlanta. We have two people <hes> red clay com guys these. These guys are on the road. Non fucking stop matteo. I feel like you guys are doing great. You gotta be making more than a thousand dollars a month month. How many people are in your fucking banded whoever he just proposed to this dudes aligarh get away from him. Maybe we'll see maybe we'll see matteo on a future behind the music and he's like to we signed this deal. We got a thousand bucks a month. We are so bad at negotiating contracts tracks. We got two thousand a month. We went platinum all right buddy doors at closing. I'm glad you put it out into the universe. I'm i'm glad that we could be here for each other. Your pen pal where your pen pals and check out a wild adri while to check them out komo. Listen see what their tour dates are. Sincerely your pen pals roy scoville daniel man professional fatal and loved that daniel van kirk here before we get onto the next. You know really really really quick that on the tenth of august. I'm going to be the d._a.'s comedy lab in santa cours recording for my album so if you're anywhere around there. Were you know somebody who is tell them see me. You can get tickets at daniel. Van kirk dot com that is on the tenth of august saturday august tenth santa cruz california folks. Where did you win the break. Did you tell your wife that we are over your baby. Yeah okay. I said we're done can't tell you what i did. Two weeks ago came in third place in a celebrity am golf tournament and i weighed eight jude hospital killian. What third-place rohrer came in third place. I know to a lot of people anywhere in your was forced them. It's a foursome celebrity shit on these people. How much did you carry the team. Can i tell you what i want to say. Let me say surprise explain diet old guy. Let me explain some stuff right. I'm right this is all good background information but also learning they know these are great questions atta celebrity am and i realize a lot of your boys. Are you on that level at for golf steph. Yeah you definitely can be because they need. People and i've been enough things to justify keeps telling me to learn. He's like dan. Artur can be playing not only learn you could be making money doing doing it and you do not have to be good and you can get a ton of frisia because we can go meet people and also what they do want you to be as the entertaining. They wind up entertaining in your group. That's what i'd be but also what's more important in this particular case and i will say i did this two years ago and toured saint jude children's hospital in memphis tennessee. If you have not done that it will change your life when you see that organization and you realize that there are families out there that find out in a devastating way one day. You're told that your kid has has cancer yeah. When you go to saint jude hospital you are never build one time ever ever ever ever ever ever ver- because of people who donate money and give money and go oh my god. Could you imagine what that must be like and they go their kid can stay there. They that some kids are you know. It's it's yeah it's interesting the success rate that they have. There's some cancers that the survivor it was four percent. It's now at ninety six percent. It's crazy. I'm like i went saw the hospital fully on board i it's it's an amazing organization now. Let's get back to the gulf. One do a little plug there because it is an amazing organization. Sorry about let me cough. We came in third place. I went you get paired up with four people and then you play the you're the celebrity so you're in a group of five fivesome. It's a fivesome. How's that workout. Here's how it works. It's call a sham bill. So a shambles is when everybody tees off you pick the best tee he shot yeah and then everybody has to play their own ball from that spot. The rest of the whole isn't that also with a shotgun is a shotgun is just all over the course and everyone starts on a different hall but a scramble which is also fun but also called baseball basketball is when you play the best ball of every single shot a shambo is when you only play the best ball the tee shot and then from there on you play your ball and then at the end of the whole whoever got the best score that's the score you put on the scorecard gotcha. We got third place twenty four under. Did you carry the team. I here's what felt so you keep kevin now. It is the best golf i've ever played in my life and and the group will even tell you we used a lot of my tee shots and we used a lot of my shots. I don't i was on fire on a legit straight up golf. Course how good feel bill it felt incredible. I was so because the only thing better than than playing golf. Well is having someone you do it. Oh and my buddy jason lewin in the car and the car with me coaching our team watching the whole thing keeping score giving us like tips talking about the course reading reading yardages. What are we talking seventy three seventy four who is unreal. What would you sixty eight. What'd you go. What did i shoot yeah. We shot twenty four under him so we shot a forty eight because you get strokes base under handicaps and stuff like that what happens the third place aretha or anything third place you get a trophy and you get a one hundred dollar gift card into the pro shop at the course planning to basically you had to go spend a hundred dollars right away and i'm sure yeah it's hard time it was i went about a shirt and a glove and he got out of there out about a new putter for good but i don't need a new putter i do but i just want to say that happened because it was absolutely incredible but i brought that up more importantly. If you are the person who goes. I want to donate some of the money i have but i don't know where to do it. There's obviously fifty million places and forty nine million are good play honest places. I know there's i think in the back of hendry worry is a good place is a scam. Is this real right. If you're one of those people that's looking for a place. Don't just go to saint jude and donate. If you're like that. Look it up up research. It was founded by danny thomas who does he. I love this even more who was a comedian so it makes it yeah. I i love that i love that that the foundation that place with someone who was a comedian and <hes> yeah research and just no. I'm letting no it's a it's a worthy investment <hes> in in helping other people. That's awesome. Should we get to this final letter here. Your day folks here. We go diving right in to our dearest pen pals. I hope all is well with you from your insta- dan it looks like the together tour went. Well rory congrats on robbie abi wrapping. Thank you so much. Thanks on the topic of t._v. Ever weird new relationship with a t._v. Show my sister was on the most recent season of the bachelor atua. I had never watched the show but it's hard to miss. Everyone's at least heard of it which is what makes it so crazy. My sister kirpa was among all these other women fighting fighting for the attention of one dude on national television. I was seeing my sister's face in news articles on twitter on instagram <hes> she has fan pages watching the show with my sister was great though with literally every moment being filmed. It was crazy seeing what made it to broadcast for example. My sister slipped on a rock and h h shit in thailand producers rushed to the hospital and she got stitches put in her chin. They didn't explain this on the show. My sister just showed up with a band aid on her chan. What pursued sewed my sisters. My sisters chin had a hashtag hash. Dad hashtag purpose chin people demanded answers. My question for you. You guys is if you had the power of producing your own reality t._v. Show what would it look like. What would you put people through best arjun. They ended up releasing this online and i looked it up. This youtube link. Here is the the story of of his sister getting stitches in her chin. You don't see her fall in this clip. She's just at the hospital explaining it. So who what would you do now to say mine so you could go for it. I mean it's going to be called been awhile. <hes> the theme the theme song will be been awhile by staint ain't and it will take people who family members or friends that haven't spoken to each other and at least seven years and then they have to like like go to a theme park and spend the day together. We've built a whole thing from. Are you not afraid that there will be some episodes of just zero chatter that entertaining to watch what's that people not acknowledging each other because they're just like fuck you dan and then they stand in line nine like they won't get paid unless they do it so they know they have to yeah. Most you've ever since to me. We're going to chat if you have that one gold episode where people don't say one word but that tension that tension yeah you'd watch that tension yeah but imagine to people not like right before on a reality show when they've got to build like the cuts and it's like bomb threats imagine having to build those cuts and that music with zero people talk okay. That would be hilarious to see but we have been alive. I can still remember on this episode also been a while and then i lead singer should be the host hundred percent yeah and do it. I just don't i think for me. It's obvious that would play a role in it. I wanna see people deal with their shit yeah but then i want to put them in an environment where maybe it's like that reid was crazy roese right and they're like not as crazy when you left and then you can get into it. Can i say something a little slightly off topic i i. I just told you that whole saint jude fedex golfing chris harrison who is the host of the bachelor and bachelorette was playing in that golf tournament. Oh bazaars at how to shoot. I don't know his team didn't get first second or third for damn sure. I know that because i was up there on you know third place you watched the bachelor bachelorette not ever not ever never never will never have and never will. I think i've i've i'm more than likely have checked it out because people talked about it. Put it on for five minutes. I was like no would it. Why what is this. I've watched absolutely absolutely not at all. No there's no. I hate when it's all guys snow. I've never right now. There's no chance ever. I won't because when it's all guys it's like what am i doing. You know he just make them time. No way you're going to no avail in this bit because don't care. I don't not so socio out out from it all right. Go ahead it. When it's when it's all guys every so when it's the bachelorette yes and it's all guys everton tigers and lions every like thing like okay so today determine who goes on the group date you guys are going to throw knives at each other like today to decide who goes out nine bucks. You guys are gonna giving and not as noise like cassini on find it. I'm here to play rugby and i'm like hope talk about toxic masculinity like oh you guys are literally gonna fight fight. Whoever fights harder to somebody else that could cause it to go on a date with me. It's so it's just so there's always some like if i was ever on that i won't be no need. I would constantly saying those guys like are you serious about this. You want to fight me now. There's always this this fighting thing to it. There was the current season. It's the bachelorette her name's hannah. What do you know this dude sister arjun sister carbo but i'm assuming that he was was on hannah's season because she's now the bachelorette and if that's the most recent season of the bachelor than the one of the girls which would be enough from from that season is on the bachelorette got. You don't need to watch if you just look at twitter moments. You can see everything that had ah guys. I've never seen our show and i know that lucre offer me. Luke p is really bad that hannah had multiple organs. I don't even care about what when you're saying. I don't not at all <hes> wins. There's no here this is the part you're gonna like okay so there was a guy on this show this season and they and they found out that he had a girlfriend a week before the show right legit street and they've done numerous times where they like catch somebody who had a recently had a girlfriend or still still had a girlfriend. Why do they care so listen with hannah. Comes in toxins guys like upset. She's like i just broke up with your girlfriend like two days before you came here. Are they tell her against paul. It's very real reality center. The greatest visit the provost of most pro moves. He goes he goes yeah. I had a girlfriend. She's like what's wrong with you and he goes. I'm sorry weren't you just on this show two months ago trying to marry a guy and he didn't didn't want you so now. You're here so recently you were just gonna marry someone and now you're picking one of thirty that you might marry them. Yeah what's the difference difference. Yeah i was in a relationship and i left a girl who i didn't think was going to make me as happy as i wanted to be so i came here on this weird t._v. Chance that would meet somebody. I wanted to love. Aren't we doing the exact same thing. You want to know. What happens even know how to respond to that. You want to really like what a pro you're right. She's no different than him. Here's reality. Hannah was told by the producers hey he just recently broke up with someone so maybe that's going to talk about and then they went to him and they go. She's going to bring this up. You could say and he goes okay and we go did this. Guy's is a pro pro. You're on a reality show or produce house road. Do sir exact related either way. I was glad to see that moment happen now. I what about bachelor learn paradise. You watch the bachelor reality tv hate it all much. You hate deadliest catch. It's okay yes. Hey how's owners yes. I don't care about any of that. I didn't ask if you cared. I used to be hated apathy and then there's aggression yeah you're right. There are those you tell me. You don't like property brothers. Dude you're in deep. Is this what you watch. I love love h._d._t._v. You just watch reality television. No i don't just watch it. You tell me you don't like naked and afraid. I don't care about it. Can i tell you some reality shows. I've liked deadliest. Catch a <hes>. I think alive hell's kitchen alive l. magical termi onto that okay if you don't be surprised if our listeners don't now l. magical but if you don't look stand stand up right now it's brilliant brilliant his shows who they're girls whose like survivor man he was alive was a do you know what was the movie where the people eat each other no t._v. Show great great guests and also that's that is an answer and it is also right but for this question. It's wrong the right answer a different question you other question that's right. You're going home with all. The money alive was a show. I can't remember what it was on <hes> and it was <hes> they were dropped ten guys all within like were they wouldn't find each other and the challenge was who's willing to stay out here ear with with only some of the stuff we've given you the longest and you don't know who's caved. You never know if someone's given so you follow follow ten guys who had like this phone. Was it all men or men and women it was all meant okay they could call and say i want out and they would go get them. They do like a medical test and they fly them out and then as they flew out there you go you got fifth place and they would go really was two months. No way these these guys would stay in there so long and they they have their own equipment that they've clearly been taught to use to like film everything that they're doing and you can tell the motivation was your out here to win money money and be on a t._v. Show to if you can't send if you can't film stuff and give us a story. You just won't be in the show very much so i think you saw people go from. I'm jack to be on the show to. I'm lonely and i'm starting to go crazy. There was one guy who who's footage showed that he thought you could filter water by pouring it through moss and he was poisoning himself and so they came in and they shut him down on and they said we have to give you an evaluation like you may have seriously hurt yourself yeah but i found that show to be fascinating and why wouldn't you like make afraid maybe i would. I know i've watched. They don't care about it. I just don't give a shit about you could do it. I don't know here's the deal the great british baking show love it. You want to come on. They get along and they're all having fun and they're baking. They're having fun and they have enough knowledge to where they do. Bake some impressive shit nelson fuck up sixty day fucking get along. That's what sixty days in is like. I'm so tired they pretend to go to prison. Everybody gets along just the like a lot of reality t._v. And i'm not saying republics narratives like are crushing crushing it either. I mean that they're just more are crush their more for me but they are coaching. I thought the real world was amazing. There's a time when that road was amazing and then there was a time where i was like i don't like not about this is real and producers are just feeding you. Things and i think there's a lot of people who go on there. Who maybe i'm wrong but through the footage. I'm given from those producers. I feel are prevented. Presenting me a majority of the times in very shallow people yes toot of now are they're reality shows that are not like that. Absolutely it's just it's not my flavor of television that preferred watch. I don't watch a lot of tv. I don't have it penn fifteen if you haven't check it out lapenne fifteen an incredible show reality show about pens. It's about pen- i know what it's about. It's a great show but what if what if what if this is clearly we're a you haven't seen your hyping it and you haven't seen it about pence ends. Opinions about fifteen minutes live together in a house who runs out of ink firm and things start getting real and stop getting not bengals. Get the lead out. It's penn time get the lead out and spend time at adriatic i don't so i don't know it could be okay. First of all there. Are people losing it. We have a the tangentially. We have a bachelor on our show a pen pal bachelorette yes and look. I like h._d._t._v. Look look arjun. I'm not trying to be a dual basis. What i've said tell kerpen tweet our show okay. I'm not trying to also tell her to see if she knows michael keaton. Tell tell her to see if she knows michael keaton. That's the language will tell her to see if she knows my take a look. Can you look through your phone and just see if you may be. I met him some point. I mean here. Here's what i want to say. I don't know what your reality show. Hold on okay but i wanna say to arjun. I'm not saying that kerpen. Is these things i know. There are people that go on these shows and it's kirby like the most. I don't. Oh thank you so i'm just saying you are presented a lotta time show. I'm glad you made entertainment that but i don't think you said that it's entertainment that i like they could be they could be great. Would you <music>. I wanna one base. You were faced with this. You know you work though your career yes. Did you specifically not wanna go on a comedy reality show. I auditioned for last comic standing you. Did i addition in new york city in <hes> two thousand two thousand nine thousand somewhere in there i went on. I did the early morning morning thing i got to like. Skip the sort of cattle call for and do the hey you get addition at this time right so you're probably gonna be on t. Good change. I went on first of all the judges who in the ad it are not there. That's not who spoke to me right. It was producers yeah. I went out while i'm doing the setup to my short short joke 'cause you get one. They're looking at a headshot of the person who is just onstage and chatting with each other. I finished the joke and they just is look up and they go okay. Thanks so much and i just i felt so relieved to have the door slammed. I was like oh even do it was because i wanted and to do it. I was like oh this could be fun and then as the moment the door was slammed. I was like oh. I don't know that i wanted to go in that door. I'm actually kind on a happy and then cohen that door then when i watched the and here's why that feeling was confirmed for me when i watched the edit i'm in the show show i say the set up and then it cuts to richard belshazzar recipes and some i can't remember who the other <hes> comic or whoever the other person was judge. I only say the setup and then they go. You know what. I don't think it's gonna work. I don't even say the punch line and then you see me exiting that is reliability quotations television or where you just manipulate footage to tell a fictional story is what i'm to call. Call it reality because if you showed people reality they might learn how to take the things that are truly this depressing world right and fix it but instead. You've lied to people instead will for a lotta people. Things are really good. They're not it's just an edited version of of of of a thing. You know what i mean. This is what i'm taking away from this. The reason you don't like beachfront bargain hunt is you've been hurt by reality tv one. Here's is my argument all of the titles sound so ludicrous and i know that they're real show. They're completely real. That's what's so lou. Beachfront barbecue heights front bargain hunt beachfront beachfront bargain hunt island and there's people who go. I want to watch people bargain hunt. I wanna watch. I used to have it in my parking wars. Christina watch watch people coast. You know what i wanna. Watch people park their cars honey get in here. Parking wars is on. It's called spot storage wars spot finder. I don't know i need come in here. Did he pay the meter just came on did he pay the meter and you just look at people and you go. Oh my god god let's do too. It's just a livestream of the cheesecake factory waiting area. It's called table for to watch that now that a lot of family that's what i was gonna pitch as my reality show. I don't know what my reality show would be. Well you like outdoor adventure. Think you'd you remember that against all reality show. I'm not against the mole. Did you ever watch. Can i interrupt your question the question or did you ever watch not answer them. Oh i didn't watch it. Did you watch the joe schmo show about the guy. They said he was a millionaire. No i know the joe schmo show which i thought was absolutely brilliant was a guy who auditioned and like became was on a reality show unaware that everyone else was as an actor some of those actors that are on the i think they're like they like act now. They're like they're like people that we go. Oh yeah i've worked with them yeah. I i'm drawing a blank but there's like one specific specific person while i'm like. I can't believe i'm on that's more of a social experience experiment. We're and honestly it was a social experiment and it was absolutely fascinating and anyone who happens. Uh-huh hasn't seen it. They did a bunch of seasons but that very first season of joe schmo show this man was such an angel that they did a contest they would they would manipulate games aims to try to get him in certain places they had him. They wanted him to be in <hes> like the master bedroom where they had set up more cameras so they did a contest where it was like this very attractive woman naked on a thing and they're like all you have to do is keep your hand on her for a certain amount of time. Whoever is touching her. The longest gets to go into the master suite. If you go out i you've gotta go into you have to sleep in the laundry room because i think the laundry room has become like a break for the actors like go. The laundry like there was humane tunnel that tunnels and shit in the house for the actors to take breaks loveless guys'll in his hand like on her like boob or something. I don't remember what it was like. It's so weird but does early. Two thousand thought oh he'll never wanna stop op touching her. They're right back down. Even when you say it out loud really creepy they said go he took his hand off right away and it just cut to a shot of the producers and and they were all like what is he doing. Why did he do that and then in a talking head he goes. I don't know everybody's so cool. I kind of wish they could have the cool bedroom and everyone's like he's so much of an angel angel. They can't predict what he's gonna do every time someone got voted off and they're not really getting voted off their actors. He's crying the honestly i feel like you would be like this is the greatest of all time. I'm not really into reality t._v. Of course added a fake fake reality fake reality t._v. as opposed to reality t._v. That i find finger reality t._v. It only pawn stars. God damn dude. You're in deep. Watch some art dude. You got to get into the art shows by. I watch all of it. Here's everybody watch. Ben fifteen shut up about it. Just watch it and i can go goddamn. That's good yeah in fleabag season. If you were in high school or college in the year two thousand you'll love the show. Fleabag is is great. I'm a basic bitch. Were and i don't mind i don't care. Is that a reality show. Is that an elton. John album or is that a reality show the basic bitches back the basic branches back. It's like the songs are uninteresting and like it sounds like an elevator right. I don't know what else to say to arjun here but great letter. I mean i- letters that inspire it long conversation. We go on tange that maybe they didn't expect or want are my favorite. I don't know in my reality show would be maybe something golf related. There are golf reality. Shows gladly pitched one gladly nowhere or pitching show. It's not a reality show is it. Is it unscripted. No it'll be scripted thing with you and i didn't know the difference. It's no no. It's not what i was saying is. I thought you were splitting hairs like creating drama but i was like yeah but it's unscripted comedy pretty like sketches. That's not the thing with you ajay yet. Is you changed it. Then no is man. I'm a bad friend. Let's get sucked up into bad friends miami. Have you watch bad friends portland or bad friends toronto real when when does it end it has called real world which is not the real world but road rules. That is what it's like do on a road trip gauntlet. Yeah the gauntlets world versus road good for the ms. Thanks talk. Hey bottom to the top dude ms stena p. Yeah yeah folks. This was a great letter. That was fun. This is a fun episode letting you guys. I'm not letting the listener decide. I'm saying fun but can you give people you don't have to do you have to promise but how soon before your albums out if if if if you found out today and i found out what you can do with that voice december nice christmas probably christmas album the start. I'm going to put some dates on my website pretty soon for some stand up so check it out at dot com. We're gonna do a tickets are on sale red clay comedy fest. Wham see dan and i live in atlanta. Yeah sincerely your pinballs worry scope and daniel kurtz. Aw <music> stains a podcast network.

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Love in Hollywood

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Love in Hollywood

"I'm just saying their vines everywhere. I can barely see them sitting success. Enjoy it. it's cool away at a cockatoo. To in their bar. Flying around for mind it. that's a little. That's an oregon. Here year we go. I have it on good authority that these are the exact cocktails that gwyneth orders. Snow way. what are they organic. Maybe cheers. Thanks so much for meeting us. I know you must be crazy. Busy can't know stop. I'm never too busy to see you ever in my life. It's been what twelve years. Yeah yeah it's crazy and it has really good too. I mean you look. This is crazy. I also think that it is great. Hey and this has gotta be dave right after we met. anyway. I gotta bounce after one. Gwyneth 'cause i got my job. All kinds of crazy stuff is happening. it's just reality. Tv is so okay. We'll speaking up before you go. You have got to settle this argument for us. So i make dave watch on the lot of these shows our action she lives for this stuff made watch all six seasons of marriage through skip the fourth season. He did not questions. All this reality stuff is scripted right. But that's where sam road into the airport on that little horse like that was all him. I swear whereby the stable. It's twenty minutes until clementines flight. And sam just goes for with the horror and it was so sweet. They're still together. Actually i saw it on instinct. Your show golic. I'm just saying that it's all got to be a real when you have the champagne and the lighting and the hot air balloon or whatever my guy we gotta get her a hot air balloon right. That's funny because he hates hate them. I hate heights. Anything's all business. Bake yeah you know what you guys might have the chance to find out. What do you mean okay. So so we're supposed to be shooting this couple on a date tomorrow. Right major romance the whole nine and our people back down. Are you serious. Are you actually Tomorrow is kind of a taco truck. I was interested in checking out. We we talked about this. Oh i'm sorry i forgot yeah known. Nevermind we we have a taco truck thing. It's okay but i'm just putting it out there. I think he would be stunning on tv. I mean really stunning would not. Are you kidding me. You're gonna start your whole life you the star of high school musical the sound of music. Stop it that was ten years ago. You look ten times better now. I don't know how they work. Okay you are okay okay. what okay. Okay we'll do it. great dave. You don't no big deal just a couple of cameras right. Who really believes reality shows anymore right. But i imagine being in the middle of one where your entire sense of identity is defined by people who make reality television. I'm jonathan mitchell. This is the truth. Today's episode asks can real love survive the hollywood treatment. I'll tell you. I listened to a lot of podcasts and one thing i found really helps enlisting. The podcast is to have something to do while. I'm listening and we'll find these activities for ourselves but the thing i found is playing games on my mobile phone. It goes really well with podcasts. And the my favorite game is called best fiends. It's a matching puzzle. Game where you match these fruits and flowers and things and it's super compelling there's like labels i'm level like three thousand one hundred ninety eight and every single one of those levels has been completely different. It's constantly adding new elements to the game and keeps it fun and interesting. It's fun to look at. It's fun to play. And like i said it goes great with podcasting download. Best teams free today on apple app store or google play. That's friends without the our best fiends. The truth is supported by progressive progressive. Has you covered when it comes to car insurance. 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I think they're trying to make me look stupid. It doesn't matter. Remember why watched more of these trash shows than us. There's nothing they can throw at us that we have not seen a million times. Hey there my stars. Wow cat you look incredible. Love the hair. Thanks it's it's mostly on my hair. I want to introduce you guys to deandra one of our producers. She's gonna take great care of you. Ok supermodels you. Guys are both gorgeous. You need anything at all. bottled water. Coffee could thank you. Iced coffee green tea. I'm actually kind of hungry if i can grab a sandwich. We're gonna grab you for a little cameras right. Oh okay Sure hey volume dave's hair that'd be okay cat. We are just holding while they finish lighting the restaurant. Mind if we grab just a little intro footage with you. Oh share yeah. I just stand right here. That is absolutely perfect and just look into the lens and introduce yourself okay. Hi i'm cathy. I'm thirty two years old. And i'm from south carolina. Sorry good and unwanted. Sorry please never be sorry. You are perfect. Yeah just keep forgetting the cameras even here and talk to me like girlfriends which honestly kind of already feel like we are. Oh my god thank you. I was to see that to tommy. Who is more romantic you. Dave oh god well. Dave is not romantic it off. I don't think even knows where they sell flowers. Well that's kind of mean but it's he's really he's practical and really sweet he does. He seem so sweet. I honestly want you guys to marry me okay. so what. steve's biggest pet peeve. Well he's pretty easy going. It's kind of hard to find one but oh okay so. He hates it when i talk during movies that work. I am a talker. Yeah oh my god me to fame most embarrassing moment. What would that be also. Should we get drinks after this. Oh wow drink sounds so okay. I'm okay well he would seriously hate me for telling you So funny he got arrested on spring break and there was a video that went viral enter college. It was really crazy. And dave is actually like really horrified by it. That is hilarious. Salute the about okay last thing just because i'm curious. What are you hoping to get out of today. gosh. I don't know. I never expected to be here. I guess i'm the person who watches these shows. You know so. I'm usually the woman on the couch. And today i get to be on the screen i just. I just want to enjoy it while it lasts japan. Oh my god you are delicious. I want to wrap your entire body apart. I love your whole. I'm i'm getting romantic. I'm obsessed with the whole thing. Yup nothing top that we're ready for you onset. Cat last looks everyone talent. Walk into the roof they are. Hey wow you're here is on. Don't even try to be nice. I know i gant. I honestly wouldn't even care if they would just feed me something anything. I'll take a piece of bread. Tokes real quick. Before we started he committed messed up with that producer woman. At one point she started good evening and welcome to what promises to be our most dramatic and romantic episode yet. Tonight join cat and the person who watches these shows. So i'm usually women on the couch today. Get to be screen as she gets to. Experience each carded me. I just said that like sonic just like joining cat is her fiance. Dave katz fine equate. I give them maybe like four hundred ten. Maybe five on a good day can't play golf. They asked me if you play romance tonight as base star in a love story ripped straight from the silver screen okay and we have accidentally told that deandra lady about tanna water. Why please tell muted. Admission video should not be mad at me right now. I promise not gonna come up on my god. These people are reality show producers. their job is to bring up. The worst stops show is supposed to be romantic dave. It's definitely not romantic. Talk about what you did outside the tiki bar. Only to say what i did with mike mccready. Just hit the subject. Because they're going to start filming. Nope we're rolling. You guys are doing great kidding me. Let's have you guys make your way into the table please. We are loving everything. You guys are both icons. It's beautiful up here. david luck. Those hollywood hosts and beautiful. I'm really sorry. We got off to a bad start. Let's just try to have a good time. We're up here okay. Oh i'm having a good time. I'm having a great time. Look at me i'm starving. My hair looks like early. Era dolly parton and this godforsaken jacket is suffocating. Oh you're being filmed right now. So why don't we just get you to eat. Maybe it'll tear up little. Hi i'm otis from props. I'm supposed to tell you that you can pretend to eat the food but don't actually eat it white. We can't eat the food i mean. I guess you can do whatever you want. But for the release you sign. Production is not responsible for. Anything that happens to your. You know body dave. I know you're annoyed but please just be a good sport about this. Pretend to eat chicken. And i don't want to pretend to eat the chicken i want to eat some fucking chicken and i can't read in this anymore while that should under some. I know that's better. Sorry i want this to be for you. I'm just what okay lovers appointed up happy faces as the helicopter landing pad. No do is. Could we look a little panic. Were about to go on a romantic helicopter. Ride over member leaving. I told the guy. I hate heights. Come on i'm sorry. This is mark on our fake. Wait lists dave. Hey the okay. Wow i'm sorry did that. He did not deserve that. A total disaster. I'm so sorry about him. I really thought he'd be able to support them. No no no worries. Hey hey guys guys. Let's stop rolling. Okay give us a minute. Thank you really embarrassing. You have nothing to be embarrassed. You never mind well. Look i don't know if this is okay to say you were so incredible onscreen see. I wasn't even paying attention to dave. I forgot he was there. Someone had to tell me who he was. I couldn't take my eyes off okay. Well that's really silly. But i'm afraid i was right a we're not cut out for this. I am not clementine. Yes thank god. You're like a thousand clementines cat. This went all wrong. I wanted you to get your romantic moment. And maybe we should happen at variety. I don't know that that would be fun. That i guess i i should go. Findings sure sure. Yeah i mean. I planned the whole trip out myself so i wanted to start with a really good view. All the big beverly hills mansion. They are beautiful and then ask them to fly west down the coast could see the the pier and all the rides eventually that boardwalk back home. You know Then if i were there with you. I'm pouring you a glass of champagne and you and i are cruising back over the hills just in time for you to see the sunset right up against the hollywood sign. That sounds philly. Yeah yeah wish. I could've seen you seeing all that. I know it's crazy but let's do it. Let's let's let's go you and me. Let's go up there. I wanna give you the night that you deserve jackson. I'm sorry i need to go find dave okay. Everybody that's going to be a cut. Wait excuse me. You were feeling that. Yes honey in reality show speak saying we're not filming. Were definitely filming. The exact are loving this childhood crush thing by the way great work. You want to seltzer. Excuse me how do i get out of. The restaurant walked out ways for a while. But this ain't a real restaurant. This is a sound stage lady. What's cat very you are queen. Let's go grab you a green juice. We aren't quite ready for you over there yet over. Okay just hang back your first second. They're about to wrong. good evening i'm brock sawyer. Coming to you from los angeles with our live studio audience tonight. Our hearts ached as we watched. Dave abandoned cat on the roof. This is mark but could her happy ending be with jackson. I wanted you to get your romantic moment. The answer to that question and so many more when we come back and sit down with the woman herself cats. We'll find out what happens next in just a moment but first this episode of the truth is sponsored by wondering wonder his new. True crime podcast. The apology line begins with allen bridge posting fliers around new york city. Asking people to anonymously apologize for their crimes not to god not to the police but to his answering machine and within hours the call started people apologizing for stealing infidelity lying and even murder. Henry i killed henry. He was neighbor made of mine. Ecology line is chilling with incredible recordings to well told story that just keeps revealing surprise after surprise. Subscribe to the apology. Line on apple podcasts. Or you can listen early and ad free by joining wondering plus in the wondering app wonder feel the story. Welcome back tonight. America watched cats world flipped upside down when a romantic dream turned into a nightmare with her. Fiance dave i know. I know but cats tragic love story took a shocking turn when her childhood friend jackson stepped out of his role as producer and made a play for her heart Before we left cat was torn in two directions she needs closure and so does the country. Ladies and gentlemen the moment you've been waiting for please. Welcome cats Hello welcome please have a seat see cash now cat tonight. We have gone on an emotional roller coaster with you. You started the evening engaged on what you had hoped would be a night ripped from a fairytale. Then we watched that fantasy become a horror show. Let's revisit cats dirty with dave. Dave is not romantic at all. I don't think even those where they sell flowers re in this relationship anymore can be great if she cared to improve. Let me teach her a few things. I see you're being like a seven maybe an eight. He hates it when they talk. And on top of everything. We learned tonight about dave's wild past and criminal record. He got arrested on spring break. And then dede's dramatic exit. Leaving cat devastating i. I'm sorry this is of course. The greatest scandal tonight was dave's jacket as worse mama to nine one posted quote. We should've known. Dave wasn't good enough for her. As soon as we saw that shiny blazer my eyes will take longer to recover than cats heart. Wait a second in dame's defense. He had known david walked out on. Cat did nine her the romantic tv ending. She so wanted that. We've seen the last of him. Only time will tell and that leads us to the other man. Battling for cats heart. Let's take a look back at jackson. I'm pouring you a glass of champagne. And you and i are cruising back over the hills just in time for you to see the sunset right up against the hollywood sign. That sounds feeling. You're like a thousand clementines can please welcome live in the studio. Cats long lost childhood sweetheart jackson. Though jackson cats i mean did did either of you expect a wind up here tonight now. I honestly still don't really know what's happening brock. I swear no one was more surprised by any of this than me but sometimes your heart starts talking and your brains got to listen. And i just went where it took me. Even if that meant going on camera which. I swore i would never do. That is the lovebird telling us that our first audience poll has concluded. Let's find out which our audience found more awful. The fourth season of marriage hunters or games. Jacket it does not look good for dave's jacket. Wait a second. I need to say something. This story is getting twisted dave. He's a really great beyond just a little while viewers across the country will decide who deserves cats heart. Where's your head at right now. Cat wait what do you mean. The country will be deciding he deserves. The lovebird is back to tell us. What's trendy lovebird. What have you got the number. One trending hedgehog in the country. Tonight is chicken. Ladies and gentlemen it is time to check in with your votes will end up with jackson or dave and america is leaning toward jackson. Thank you i love you. I love you viewers. This love story continues to take us through one shocking. Turn after another. No we stop. No more shocking turns. This stops now. This is my story and you all of you are running away with it. Cat my eternal goddess. Is there a problem. Yeah deandra all this to stop. I'm going to run. Grab your diet. coke you're okay. It's my turn to talk. And i mean to say something about dave no stop. Please just cut that villain music. I want the music. Okay okay. that's better listen. Dave isn't but he's really good guy and he's real which is more than i can save for the rest of this. I am just like you all of you. I'm the girl on the couch and south carolina watching these shows and dave. My davis definitely not romantic helicopter. Ride guy but who is. And i think that's actually the point. I thought real romance than mountaintop hot tubs and making out on a yacht but the guy who will sit next to you on the couch and not complain. Will you watch hours of garbage. Just like this is real romance. Our audience has clearly been moved by cats powerful words. Thank you dance. I hello america. We are just minutes away from talking to cats. Mom pam who always thought jackson was quote very nice boy but first. Let's take a look back at katyn jackson through the years we can't and jackson's love stories starting in kindergarten. Where an affinity for duck duck goose. You're you're a genius. Yes we keep pushing the audience back and forth just like this. I want this to end now. I know the narrative change. But kat i'm telling you this could be the best tv i've ever made. Our storyline is testing off the charts. Out stop the montage. Stop the sappy music and the childhood photos. Just get through this episode. And i think we're looking at a spinoff. I believe the lady said. Stop the montage. Well in a stunning twist cat's yawn. Say dave has returned to the studio and for some reason is on horseback. Wow nice horse thank. You took me about an hour to find my way out of the sound stage before and then i just couldn't find a cab but i did find him. Wanna get yes. Please your hand. He's never never lifted someone up from the top of or speaking satisfying romantic. Yes i couldn't have imagined a better ladies and gentlemen tonight. We watched the ups and downs of cats. Love life culminating in. So did you have fun. You know believe it or not. I actually did i about you did was too much of an asshole. It felt a little heavy handed to me. Are you kidding. It was exactly what we talked about. I mean if i'm being honest i was pretty proud of emotional storm off classic star up. They tried to pull a not feeling. But we're actually filming. Gimme a break. There always filming. I know. I don't know how i missed it. I'll tell you something my very favorite thing that you did branding daytona story obviously low video so much so a love it. I'm so hungry. Iced you read my mind. You know taco truck is only four blocks away. Do you think we can take the worse. i'm pretty sure. According to the rules of reality tv we own this worst. Oh god dave microphone crap. Good call me to Hold on just get these often. God if a horseback moment doesn't just always get tonight. We saw cat ride into the sunset with the man who thanks to the number. One trending video on the internet will be forever known to our viewers as daytona dave i'm brock sawyer and this has been love in hollywood and to hear more original stories like this the truth podcast dot com. You can also follow us on twitter and instagram are. Handle is the truth fiction. Levin hollywood was written by megan stein and produced by me. Jonathan mitchell is performed by rebecca lewis. Cornfeld michael cruz. 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Bobby Makes A Statement With His CMT Awards Outfit + Trisha Yearwood Stops By

The Bobby Bones Show

1:49:44 hr | 2 years ago

Bobby Makes A Statement With His CMT Awards Outfit + Trisha Yearwood Stops By

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You know, last night was the CMT awards, and I guess you can't look one comment and make a judgment on my Instagram from it. But it's like what are you wearing idiot? Let me tell you. I want spend money on clothes, like much TV clothes or so, dumb. But could you only get to wear them like once or twice in your on I spent nine dollars off it last night, I already on the pants does a car pants, are you on this spenders? That was a white t shirt. I already we used sharpy to write the letters on it. The shoes was the only thing that I bought, and they weren't even in the shot to wear them again, which is amazing. I didn't see you're beginning to wake, but they're not like tennis shoes. So every can suck it, man. All those haters, on Instagram. Well a lot, what are you wearing? You stupid does haters one. But I was like, also like my look look, I wanted to be a newsboy newsy. That's kind of what you look like what more Morgan. Mindy. Nanan a little hybrid of that things. Fair, I don't care to look the most suited up most expensive looking person. I've just not just not me. You've done that. You've done that already. Here's when I did that this here's here's the change now. And hope this comes off. Okay. When I was just begging to be accepted and fit in I overly fit in. I was like, I'm gonna like the best. So people be like always. Oh, well, I probably shouldn't be. It'd be looks apart. They dress for the job you want. That was like just accept me. Dress suit and tie. I'm really putting in. I still put in the effort. But different. Now, it's like I belong in, if I don't screw off. Anyway. Who cares? I'm just not to them. But to anyone I'm me. And so I kind of carry that in a lot of places in my life now. And I was like you don't wanna wear suspenders and a t shirt, and then I want to have a message on it, and it said support country, artists male artists where female artists. Yeah. And then I was like, you know, I should. Also support a female artists and put on one of their shirts. When I'm on camera to saw switched over and put a joy William T shirt on which I just called her, and with joy can have emerged shirt, and she was like, yeah. Why what's up that was? I'm gonna wear on camera. She was like, what now like, yeah, you're the coolest in. Joy Williams is the best. And so I was happy to happy that she like appreciate it. Thanks. It looked what I wanted to Corky that was kind of my, and I don't want to spend any money, I'm over spending money on anything it was gonna make everything homemade now food close girlfriend. Well, I was a little disappointed because I here we go hater now, we'll just could lately, you've been giving me like some of your TV. So when I saw that I was like, well, I don't want that. That's fine. You gave you gave me three suits and like dang user baller. And then I saw suspended, I'm like, that's okay. Have you got those fixed to you at all, like, no no, I don't need to. It's, it's, it's more of like a goal now, I'm probably ten pounds away from fit into that. Then I would have it done about five pounds. Then that way you don't have to. 'cause my problem is whenever I'm super in shape. Yeah. I get close fitted to me. I don't you don't stay super anything. You don't stay super outta shape. You don't stay super in shape. You don't your poll these polls that we stay at. We were never. That's not a maintainable thing. Okay. So basically what I am now but you can actually get you lose a few pounds, if you want, but you're not gonna lose ten pounds and state and pounds thinner. And you're gonna lose ten if you want to because you I've seen you do it before, but it's hard to stay. They stay there. And then you get to wear those clothes more than once. Yeah, I got you. Okay. So game for five and then get them I get dykes tailored. Tailor forty bucks. Yeah. Get the Taylor because they're nice suits, but, I mean just in general with anything and I get how you'd buy clothes like in the summertime you'd like to buy these jeans, and what my goals fitting these genes, but if your goal is to super fit into genes that you won't maintain you're wasting money like get a comfortable middle ground because when I'm at my most fit I don't stay. Most fit. I'm usually there for something. And then they get back out of it. I'm pretty good right now. I'm like I like where my body is now close wise. But I could lose a few and get skinny, or if I wanted to stay there are you to medium or small right now? I don't like that question. Now it's a serious questions sucks, too. I don't like it because I'm a small God. That's crazy, dude. And a lot of things and I just I'm already not that masculine. But you work out all the time. I don't understand like you box. I've worked all of that. But that's why I'm small I'm a lot of my world and you're not owning a lot of. No, I but do you eat like cheeseburgers and stuff, because that's what the netball players ever. I'm might if I put any carbon, I don't put any carbon my body really a cheeseburger with, like lettuce as the bun I could, but I don't I also when I start something like if I have a cheeseburger, I have one thousand nine hundred workers, just go goodbye. You ape. I go ape but see that was the last night I had a good time. Good time last night. It was an entertaining to watch. And you know, when little big town, performed daughters. Did you see that big globe hanging up there before that performance? Mooner guys. It was earth. Oh, a huge globe. So for like a week or two on my street, there was, this huge globe look just like that. And we were like what is this people were seven take pictures of his massive, those it, I don't know, like TJ Osborne has a side business about like you know props but I'm used parked outside at his house, and that's huge drug. And then next thing you know, I'm watching the little town, performed daughters, and I see this huge globe. And I go and I look outside in the globe gone. I didn't notice there they're not earlier in the day because of just used to being there now. And now it's gone. That's so I think that the prop for little big town's performances EMT's. Moore's was the globe that was all. Side my straight on my street, pretty cool that rule. That's like bounce. When we went to dance with the stars one of your nights that your dancing, and like all they have all the props there from shows. Yeah. And the props. Crazy like just to see props like that you end up seeing on TV and three sharing what are the odds, like why was that had to be because I was like, what is this massive thing, LIZA here? Some people were taking advantage of it. Like I told you people take pictures of one time, there's a girl at the bikini doing, like a full-blown photo shoot in front of me. Because I think like maybe they were driving your hometown. They're like, oh, this would be a pick, so they stop. They get out and do a photo shoot. I was like, well this kind of kind of sad now. It's going to be gone. It was entertaining. Maybe it'll be back. I didn't see the globe. I don't see them last night. There was one part of the show near the end. I don't know if you guys were still awake, but I wish the whole thing, Karen, takes her Cup and throws water toward the camera. And she goes, she goes like this, and the water goes out. And we're like a beach thing I didn't carry doing southbound, and she afterward, she walks out and I was like I said, if you did that camera with water, that's, like a forty thousand a Cameron. She goes. I know she goes mad at me. Oh. A little big town. So nice Sundays Kimberly, you had like a nose bleed as it. We're trying to get through the last one really. Yeah. And they were like trying to fix it and hide it. So they could get back up. They did. And she got up and she's like held her head back a little bit. But kimberly. And Karen, did the mullet thing. I was laughing and then they went to Morgan Wallin and ours. It was just funny. I like okay this is this is good. Does how they get played. How did because I couldn't hear a lot of it. How did the Brandi Carlile Tanya Tucker? Thanks so good was it? Good amazing. That's cool ready. Cool like the weird thing about brandy Carlisle. And I'm not gonna act like I'm a massive fan just to be cool because I'm not a massive fan. I like her. She's been medical percents. You've been nice, but she's been around for a long time longtime epi, like wow. I'm such a big fan like I might be your biggest fan like this new this her new. She's new. I'm like, no, no. You've been around for a while. I've been on tour tour bus before when I got involved. I don't know ten fifteen ten years ago, they live like out on the that, like, Seattle, excuse me. They live in Seattle. What excuse me or you can say she's from Seattle, but do they live there? Now, I would think so down her in those two twins have been together since they had like a combo, I compound now do they see what they I don't know where? It is it could be in Seattle, but yeah, I just wondered because she's not like a country artist, but she liked respects and loves country music. So she just does everything with she's doing the high woman with Erin and Natalie him, be her and forgetting the high women. I don't want to forget anyone, so Mike slept him mind to the other one is the mayor Morris. Now. Lambie. Brandy carlisle. Okay. I'll come back to that. But she's very Nope. She respectful to country music. Yeah. Like loves it and pushy it. Who is it brenick? Oh, Amanda shires. Oh, magicians. Bill's wife. Okay. Who's like even if she wasn't just those wife, it's all, so good. She doesn't need to be Jason. It's almost like Jason salesman. Shires husband, like she's that good. But yeah. That's what is even like Tanya. Tucker was saying that, you know, brandy like when they met it was just like I'm just I mean, I grew up with you, like yeah. And that reminds us of us, you know, that's, that's the way we are with, like, Tucker. We grew up with two spares and hurricane, like lack to spin. King. Yep. See that resonates onto the harm. She's there to find your way they Karla. Okay, we go. Yeah. It is Eddie. You're right. And though, Carlisle's compound is an hour drive from downtown Seattle. They call it a compound. Yeah. Because like people move and live there, like the I think the Pearl Jam guitars, lived there for a while. Really Mike mccready. I think so really we'll just kind of go in and out. Yeah. Yeah. Anyway, it's been cold to me. I don't think she knows like that. I do anything. She just this guy's a fan the glasses over there. He's a fan. She's just nice. Yeah. Last night. This is me turn to be cool and not geek out and I don't know if he gets on who this is. But there, I went to like the CMT little party afterwards. I wanted to say thanks to Leslie Fram and John Hamlin who was the producer and big. It's empty. And so I want to go say hi to them, Tom, who's my guy, my manager, we go and we're walking around and I walk up to this guy. Like, hey, this guy does comedy. He's kind of new to comedy say hi to them since I came in, and I'm like, I know this guy, he's not a comedian. Right. But I know from something else, and he's like, yeah, I just got a comedy in the last year or so. And I'm like cool, cool. And so we but then I know who it is. Do we know who is Amy won't you might? And so we keep talking. And I was like. Rens Ryan as always cool trying Dempster. And that was a huge I I'm a dire Chico cubs fan, but I know Ryan different playing with the cubs and I was like, oh, yeah. You would you play for. I was totally faking. Yeah. And he was like you have left because, as a comedian now, he's trying to do comedy music it out, and he was, like, so, what are your tips? I was like, here's my only tip for you and comedy. Just go do it over and over and over and over and over and over again because you'll learn more on stage bombing and doing it wrong than you ever will somebody telling you how to try to something right? And then I totally was faking, like I didn't know deep inside my side. So cool. Yeah. I was I was that guy last night. And then you're like how do I threw a breaking ball? Fastball. I'll teach you how to be funny. You know what you, do you play interesting. So, yeah, we did that last night and left and it was just nice because santee gave us a driver. They give you send you a car. So the drivers waits for you, wherever you wanna go. That's awesome. And then you go in the car. Just drives up not related texts. How did I tell the scary thing that happened in New York? With says you're at did. I not I don't think I did. But just made me think of it, 'cause driver, but I guess, because I was well, Bobby was supposed to be doing it. But I guess if you host the iheart theater show, you get like a driver. I dunno. So how'd one had to put stuff? Yeah. So like just to and yeah, not like the whole time you're there. But so I had to share in the car, and then I had to run get something. And I mean I try like I should. It's okay to trust the driver, right? I started feel like I was a bad mom, and I don't know if I made a bad decision, y'all can tell me, but I had her in the car, and then I had to run back in and get something. And I came back out driver, gone gone all of our stuff gun gone. My phone was in the car too. So I couldn't even call. It was with her in the bags. Everything was why don't you go back inside is on the phone, right? I know I was like I'm awful like. Interesting. I get it and probably the most important and the child. Fine hers in New York City. Yeah. And gone. So then this woman that's clearly a New Yorker. I say to her, I say, did you see where that car just went and she said? Oh, yeah. Yeah. He he, he had to leave and I still don't know. And she goes was that your daughter in there. And I was like, yeah, and she was like, where are you from? And I said, oh, ritually, I'm from tech your life store. But she's just like you know, we don't do that here. You don't like you can't trust people because, like in Texas. I guess we're more trustworthy than she's like, yeah. Basically, you're not from around here. I don't know. So. Anyway, smash I still I'm hoping my phone, whatever everything worked out, but, I guess a police officer came up to him and he was he couldn't just sit there park. So we had to go do a loop, but it took a really really, really long time for him to get back because of traffic and I mean, my heart started pounding. I was like, I don't know what to do. How am I gonna explain this? I mean, I'm I'm not. So what's your advice to be should've just never should have at least taken all of our stuff in taking her taking my phone, obviously, because then I could call, but I no way, and he could have just been who knows what if he was an imposter driver. And he's like hall, my plan works, and he drove away with all of our things was one of the one of those in Hollywood, but fake drive. Uber driver almost got her. I remember it was, but it was a whole story where he walked all the way to the car, and she was like this isn't right. Pretty famous to. Well, that's what I, I trusted it because it was sort of, like, you know, he had a sign, and everything your daughter, terrified. No, I pulled that up. She had her headphones saw like what mall. I'm like, I'm like, oh my gosh. Lily Reinhart, the actress. Yeah. I don't know. Riverdale. I just see her on east up, but she's like, yeah, he led me to the car, and he wasn't a real driver near we are. We are. We're going to go out and start today's show because anything's about those, if, if I ever get lucky enough to have a driver at always says, Bobby bones, and they're like you, Bobby, and I'm like, yeah. Busy. So the craziest thing is say your name, the crazy the one for me. That's like that is, when might be living, California, or even we've lived together a couple of times, he'll order food from his phone or a car, and they'd be like I walk out, and I'm the goofiest white guy, you're out, and they're like you're Miguel Rodriguez. And I'm like, I sure am. Joe hungry Dane, euros out of stone. Just getting funny. We've been rocking rocking it. Here's today's show. Thank you. Bye. This is Otis gray and for this season on the job, we're hitting the road to tell amazing stories of real people and their life's work from young woman, making dolls for an underserved market to folks falling in love at the office each episode will surprise you. And just when we thought it couldn't get any worse. We got the job from how check it out by searching for on the job from express employment professionals in the iheartradio app or wherever you listen. Miss the Bob. Transmitting? Erica. This is about. That's right. Welcome to the show back at it on a Thursday, more studio. CAT awards last night, late night, thought it'd be back. Here, you know, people are using a lights goals ashed, bring back childhood memories, UCS, sorry. No. But, you know that was said he MD therapy, or what was it called, and I've done that me too? It's not zaps. No. It's not. But it was like wholesale that like tapped into my brain to, like open up some capsules or some things I didn't think any of that so forth. I thought it just worked because I was focused and it was almost placebo. Oh, things on you is gonna make you remember certain things. I'm like, oh. Sure did. Yeah. It's like trauma that you've locked away. They open it up. Well, this is electrical zaps and electrical. Current goes into the brain. And they say that most people experience warm tingling. And then you start to remember things you can remember before. Well, pretty fun. Let's sit on the show. Katie. And man, how are you? Good. How are you Bobby real good? What do you want to say? I just wanted to say that I absolutely love you guys. I love how honest and really guys are in. I love the u Dake your fans for listing and appreciate us because I feel like a lot of stars in celebrity don't so it's really cool to know that you do appreciate us, and thanks and I love listening to you guys. Thank you, very much in the region. We're not stars as Lebanon. Nailed it. Here's the Bobby bones show podcast highlights segment of the day. So Tricia last night, she was given an award away, CMT awards, and I was sitting right next to her, and she was out to go on, and I didn't want to bother and be like trust is Bobby, and I didn't, but I could touch her. And then I thought about touching her, then I did it. A lot of not doing things Morgan number to ask some questions because I did presented CMT awards last night. It was a good time. And then they had the greatest like snack backstage, let it was chicken that had been dipped in cooked in syrup on a piece of a waffle. Oh, now I don't partake 'cause I'm trying to stay skinny they got a bunch of days shooting. But it is fantastic chicken wa bites, maybe the best bite. Now when I compare by of all my life on sticks, that's maybe number one, wow song, the number one number one of the countdown chicken wobbles Morgan, number two. What would you like to say? So did you bring a day last night? Great question, CMT's sends a Cardi your house. If you're presenting or playing so one, I didn't have to have my drop me off because what happens is all fans, people get dropped off and black cars and then. I have a friend in Corolla drop me off. So I was like all the black cars, and then I like it out of the back, and I'm like, what up and I don't care. But they're always they don't think it's someone in the back of a car to escort out. They just think someone who got lost in, you know how to procession if you know possession the wrong car gets in there's fit the lights on. That's the lights on that. Sometimes when I feel like those things, but they send a car and I got an a car and the driver was like, is it just you? And I was like, yeah, so I made the lonely drive, all I know it was just me no date. No date. And you can't really ask somebody on a first date to go to CMT awards. So I went completely by myself. All right. Thank you. Well, who is your favorite person you interacted with last night? Well, Kate Bosworth. That's all. Yeah. That y'all are besties now. I didn't know. I knew she looked familiar. What does she from? That's a good. Not ocean movie. Will she was surfer? Don't know that is. Yeah. Whoever she was super nice, but I didn't know she was and I was like, oh, she's way dressed up and super nice. And we talked for a while, and her personal was like, hey. Let's get. Let's get a picture of you two in. That's my open. Indigo. Okay. I guess I'll take care. I never want to ask me guy, 'cause I'm supposed to try to be at the Pierre of everyone. I'm not the peer. But what did she she's in blue crushes what Amy's talking about? She's in superman returns. Yeah. She's also in twenty one found out. That is the remember the titans. Okay. Well, no. What she was on that. She was school. And I tell you presented with Jay. Well last night is on your question list, name jail. Okay. So. Nice. She was so nervous walking up and j well from jersey shore. Yeah, and I went up to her, and I was like, hey, how's it going? She was like it's good. She doesn't really nervous. We didn't meet 'til like halfway through the middle of. A show and I'm like, oh, let's go read this walk on the script. And then I realized I was going to do to her what people do to me. When I get a shot like a needle blood. I just haven't talked to me the whole time, like, hey Bobby, how's it going? Just tell me about this. And I'm talking then them. The hit me with a needle, right? So she was super nervous and really nice. And we're standing up there. I'm like, so how far from Newark airport? Does your house but they had already said start walking because we're on. And she didn't know we're just walking. Well, one we talk the whole time talk talk talk. And if you see us he watches bag, we're talking, right. Ticket to the microphone, and then we're on, so she had no time to freak out good. And then she gets all. She's like, oh man. That was awesome. I have to have that done to me, whenever I'm scared of things. Nice play. She was she was good. There was one point that we were standing so close to each other. I was going to put both my arms on my hips, which kind of pushed into my side and only got to put one arm on my hip. So I look like out boss lady. Yeah. Yeah, it was like it was only for a second. But still, I remember doing it and going, well, this feels uncomfortable and saw dropped it. I mean as your friend I was like, what is he doing? Why is he on his hip? I was very. Yeah. I was like lady in charge of their yet, Morales Morgan number two, so how many people stopped you because of your shirt last night, the first shirt because I didn't wardrobe change. I wanted to be like REBA and change wardrobe in the middle. And so, I showed up, and if you go to my Instagram, you, you can see what I was wearing last night. And I had on some like car pants and suspenders and just a white t shirt, and we sharp he'd on it, that said support female artists like that's not a bought shirt we just did. But we'd like triple sharpie, just so it look thick. A lot of people and I wanted to feel comfortable, but also wanted to put a message out there because every interview I do. They're like, hey, talk about what you're doing female country music. And I was like you know what? I'm just gonna wear the shirt and what I would do in every interview when I walked toward carpets, there'd be a female artist near me and be like, well, here's what I'm doing. And I won't even talk about me, I would just drag them. This is Ingrid Andreas. I brought her under a couple of wrought Lindsey L into a couple. She was standing there. And so that was kinda my play it was. And then I switched shirts for the show and actually put on a female artist shirt, which is joy Williams. Yeah. They'll so a lot of people, but it was good. It was it was. I some of them. I like my people like my team. They're like, yeah, I don't know if you should wear a shirt that makes them political message. It's not female ours. I ran for president. Call. But there's the and they were like yeah. Is a good move. I don't I don't do many good moves. That's obvious happy. They yes. What else mortgage to sit by most of the night, assert next to Cole? Swindell at I it was cold, and they kind of put you near people that they, it's like thanksgiving or wedding. They put you near people that you like and no. Because you can just talk to and it keeps you in your seats longer because otherwise you just go backstage and eat. That's what I eventually did coal and brothers Osborne. I was with them because we're all kind of close ish. Dan shea. I think we all kind of sat together and then after about the first couple of things, everybody's like onstage or having to go do things we kinda ran back, so. But it was a good santee awards. Good any other questions. Are you? Good. Well, I have one more question, because Jay did like re tweet all of the stuff that was supposed to with you in St. think she wanted re tweet, okay? Got it. Yeah. Do you think she like may have a crush on? You know she had a boyfriend. What? Right. That was humongous. Oh, and I was like, are, you are security guard and he was like going to? And I was like, what is that? Our boyfriend lie. Man, you probably the gym a couple times in the last four years. Big news. The answer is no to that because I do. Oh, wow. I'm looking at a picture, and he has massive. I'm gonna tell you the the, the coolest moment last night. I'm backstage, and I really like Cain Brown's manager like she's awesome. And she was we record talking and k and Cain was up for an award, and he's sitting out there for video of the year. And the guy who made the video was back there, and I believe he's from Spain. And they were like if he gets to get a green card you need if you can get like a big award. And it helps you get a green card. Oh, well. And they were like oh, we hope we went not just for Kane but for him. And I'm I'm standing about about with them and I have a bunch of friends up for that category. I don't even know Kane that will as a thing. So it wasn't that I was rooting for Cain. Although I do love that song his office, so good. And so, but I got to talk to the guy made the video, and I'm rooting as hard as I can form because he gets to come to get going for the greatest country in the world. If he wins video of the year, that's video and our male video, I'm sure what the category was. And so I'm standing next to Kane Brown's manager. And because I like her because I like him and he wins. And it was like, when you watch those soccer. Wiz jumping up and down throwing beer it was really my favorite moment of the whole night, when Cain Brown won that award because he was like, oh, my and I jumped up and like hugged him in like my legs. But you don't know him. But you don't know him. You say, that's all you're coming. Backstory, so fun, so good. I think that was my favorite moment of the night last night. I was with people, I liked did know him by like them now and you root for anybody to come to America. Yeah. And he's already in America, but he was they were like if he gets this, it's easier to actually stay stay is so such a cool moment. And then it went to the after party for like thirty minutes because I wanted to go thanks to people from seem to really just let me do what to do gap. So it was good. That was by the way, I didn't realize that you, you kind of Sima ding Dong pants last night. Oh, I, I still don't think you can't do did you see my Instagram that, but your picture, I saw the picture. But I didn't see your day Dayton. Right. Because that's all buddies commenting on, on my. Mr. Bobby bones is my Instagram. Oh my gosh. You love that is that all they're commenting, Mike? It's I thought. Because I was wearing a shirt, but my d- rights, like shirt one fire suspenders two fires. Eggplant three fires. I didn't realize it would be an EMMY look them. I gotta go, there telling me get off the air. But now I can't even look at the picture. No, no. I saw. I can't. No. I can't my I know my. Someone just put acid in your face just just as dean. What am I looking for the comments? You know, there's a lot of eggplant load. Oh, that's your dingo? Good morning to you. Shapiro, my new podcast family secrets, just wrapped up its first season. And it's filled with stories about the secrets that are kept from us secrets that we keep from others and the secrets, we keep from ourselves if you've been waiting for the right time to binge them all now's your chance. Check out the episodes of all with bonus interviews and stories and keep an ear out for the next season in August. You can find out more at family secrets podcast dot com, and you can listen and subscribe at apple podcasts, or on the iheartradio app or wherever you listen to podcasts. Bobby bones show. Let's go over to our producer Raymundo. Raimondo what you got over there, in sports, the Toronto Raptors beat the Golden State Warriors. They now lead the series two games to one in health news. Number of measles cases is now over a thousand been over twenty cases in the last couple of days and congrats to Carrie Underwood's. She won the top honor last night video of the year at the awards for cry. Pretty Bobby bones show can now have someone potty train your kids. Oh, that's amazing. Is it I guess, so I didn't have to train but I can say that. It's pretty amazing. I didn't have to go to that because my kids are older, and they've already potty trained and I was like this is great. Well, let's go retort producer, Eddie. You have to young boy, a had to potty train both of them. It's a rough. It's a rough process that is that a bonding process now. And I really okay. Anything? It's repellent. Thank you. Kids, a woman will spend a couple of days with your toddler and teach them how to use the toilet. She charges about two thousand dollars and she'll have them fully potty, trained thousand times. I think it's worth it. To thousands a lot is it so worth it, though you put it on a credit card. Yeah. Go to debt for it. Yeah. I would say that we would have to do it. You rarely have two thousand bucks laying around and just toss it a can she make them spotter peeing wedding, the bed? That's part of it. Now potty training is learning to use the toilet have. I don't have a full resume. I'm just talking. But how long what's the freemen time she can do this law? She says it takes a couple of few days. And if you take longer than that the price start to go off a little bit. Okay. Because some kids are just they come gifted, like they just know how to do it the time comes they're good. And they figured it out themselves. Some people potty trained brand new babies. Can you believe that have you heard of such a thing? It's, it's out there to some people menu at one story about someone Yugoslavia. I don't know. From the no at pretty sure here in America straight from the world, they don't do diapers or anything because they wanted her baby to learn how to use the toilet like right from the get-go. Yeah, I mean, but I guess it works the money would you spend the money if it were you? Yeah, I spend a lot more than that to get potty trained kids from Haiti and it was awesome. Compelling option money. Owner bringing the girl group because we got just got him. Chris, Chris wants to ask the question to the girl group. Chris are you ready, buddy? Gitanas shines areas. Chris. What's up, buddy? Going pretty good where do you live? Chris. Right now. I'm in Missouri now just moved here, actually. Oh, yeah. Where'd you move from? Move from Germany. Actually, we, we got us a German, folks. All right. Chris could actually not German the military so. Hey, thank you sound a German. All right. Chris, you have a question for the girl group. Go ahead. What would you do? So, yeah. Last week, I went on a date with this girl and actually thought it went pretty well went to dinner. Probably talk to it was for maybe about an hour and a half, and then we relieve in, then a hug goodbye. And then we left and then later, I got home. And she message me and she was like, just got a quick question. And I said, okay, she asked, why didn't kiss her, and she made it seem like it was really weird. I didn't kiss her, and this was the first time I met her everything. And I just wanted to ask, if that's a weird thing not to do see what the girl group had to say because I don't know, I guess, on the first date, I take the time to kind of get to know them and feel it out. And the last thing you wanna do is get rejected also. So kind of one of those things I get their opinion. Okay. Let's bring in the gold. Here here we are, I out utility Hillary there. She is. Good toss up that about you. I'm twenty six and I actually have a fear of beach water, the ocean. Now, I'm from Florida beach water, but not bathtub water water water. She has twenty six. My main co host. Squeeze my, my best friend. There's AB everybody. There's. I, maybe thirty eight years old back in the day. I kissed on the first day. Oh, Jerry are head of digital Morgan number two there. She is. Well, I'm twenty five years old. And I am very much in the dating scene right now. So I think I offer some pretty good advice. Chris now they're just going to tell you like it is in their opinion. I can hold anything back. Okay. All right. All right. Amy will start with you. What do you think about this? You heard Chris situation. Okay. Chris, it's gotta feel so good that she wanted you to kiss her, and that she's like, hey whoa, why didn't you kiss me that she really, really likes you? So that's awesome. But you didn't do anything wrong. No. You don't. You don't have to kiss on the first date, actually. You were just you use. It's the first time you've ever met her. That's not something you normally do. So that's totally fine. You have to stick with what works for you and just take it as a huge compliment that she actually wanted to kiss you. So you say you don't have to kiss. Well, not feel good about your decision and know that. Hey, next time you take her all that pressure to kiss, for sure pressure. If you go out again, utility, Hillary. Go ahead. I agree with Amy. I have some friends who, like that in some that don't if the guy kissed him on a first date, they would be kind of like turned off by the do, like it's moving too fast. So I think it's his personal preference. I don't think there's anything wrong with him not doing it. And there's nothing wrong with her asking him to do it. But I don't know. I don't think he's in the wrong at all gross, did you want to see you didn't want to kiss it, right? You just didn't think that was for you. I mean, I one of, but it's, it's just one of those situations where you kind of feel like you should get to know them a little bit better. I it's I mean just matter. And then I talked to her for maybe like an hour and a half. So it's kinda like you don't wanna be that guy. That is like, okay. Now we get start making out. You know, it's like it's one of those things, I'm Morgan Tim Keller. Do you think about this? I personally I think you should I think you can find it an attraction to find out pretty quickly, if you're going to be into that person or not attractions, important, you don't have to. But I do think it can allow some easy way for you to figure out if you're gonna like this person and potentially go on a second date. I've not gone onto the second date before after a kiss was not good. Oh, really? I was like down. Yeah. How about that? What was that? Like it's let's like a I was just like Ooh, I am not into this. It were you into it ahead of time or you're on the fence, I was on the fence? And then the kiss solidified it for me as well. You ever feel anything where you weren't feeling much? They tried to kiss, and you're like, whoa, now I'm into it. The opposite. No never been asking for a friend bones. No. Kind of not into it. So maybe I should just like go ride trying to make out with them didn't shift them change their mind. Okay, so Amy. And Hillary say listen, you don't have to kiss. It's kind of on. You Morgan says, go for it like you, you like it touch on the first date. Yeah. But it's all it's all about if, if it was going well, like if you both feel that attraction happening, and then go for it. But if you don't do not do it. Actually, I've only been on two dates and both of them did. And I they both did they never got second dates. Oh. I didn't really like I don't know. I just like it was too much. And I felt like they were. I don't know. I didn't like it. It wasn't. It wasn't for me. Wasn't my thing. Did you kiss them both? Or did you back away? It'd be like, Ooh, I was just kind of like no. I'm dead. And then I was like awkwardly. I don't leaning. Yeah. Like what's not. So you didn't kiss, and they both just try and you didn't kiss them. They did kiss me. Yeah, they did. But I just like after they did I was just like, no, no more because they wanted to do more. And I was like, no not happening is very awkward. I know. So. Chris, here's, here's what I feel like they're saying as a group to you. So you feel better about you should always be regardless lick if it didn't feel good. Do you don't do it? But just know that when you come if it comes second date, and it goes, well, you have to kiss her they boy the pressures on pressures, right? Morgan, number two for you. You must have been so into you, Chris text you that. Like she had to Jessica. Really blame her. One personality, Oregon. Hey, listen. I actually had a girl that I dated for three years, and actually, the first time I met her I went to go kiss her. And she turned away and ended up making it work eventually though. So you're going out. Just go again in your mind. I might I might we're kind of talking a little bit back and forth, but so we'll see. All right. Well, what do you feel like you learned from this today? Just go with what you're feeling. And then it's if you wanna do it go for it. And then she happens to hide there, there is there is. Let me think are girl group. Amy, thank you, utility, Hillary. Thank you Morgan, number two. Thank you, and Chris, and Missouri. Thank you for not only serving, but also call part of the show. Yeah, I appreciate it. Thanks. I haven't. On the bodyguard. To push anyone away kissing, your stiff, arm Yanga. Yeah. That guy that was forty remember I was twenty I was probably twenty twenty three twenty four and he was forty and I thought we were friends in your hanging out as friends, and then he went in for a kiss, and I was like, oh. Was it a more the age difference or more than he sit? I was not. No, he's forty. No, no, no. Yes. It was. He was super cool. But no way was I like he was our friend like we all hung out. And yeah. That was like, well, this is awkward. I mean that was hard because it was not happening. It's weird that you yell. Forty Senator disgusting tone back, then thirty I'm thirty nine. Thirty eight forty. I know. Like forty. Listen, I wouldn't be so bad. It's a long long time ago. But yes, Bobby, it would basically be like, if you're on a couch with a call it twenty two year old since you're thirty nine and you went in for a kiss, and she was like a what are you doing? Look, if you're on the couch or the twenty two year olds it'd be kids. No, I wasn't. 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Garth Brooks teamed up with Blake Shelton for a new song called dive bar, and it's going to be out on June. Eighteenth. Garth said they sound the same together because they're both from Oklahoma. What was weird was when you start switching back and forth with vocal. Sometimes I didn't know if it was me or him because we're basically raised right around the same area. So it was pretty cool. Chris Stapleton recorded the new song the ballad of the lonesome cowboy for Toy Story for which comes out on June twentieth. Here's a clip we'll. Oh. Now i'm. Morgan emerton. That's your skin. The historical edition. Nineteen seventy three. John McCain was released after being a POW for five and a half years. John McCain serve the military from nineteen fifty eight until nineteen Eighty-one from October of sixty seven to March of nineteen Seventy-three during the Vietnam, war, John McCain was shot down captured by North Vietnamese forces. He was held as a POW more than five years while on a mission. He was shot down. Seriously injured captured his captor soon learned. He was the son of a high ranking officer in the US navy and repeatedly offered him early release, but he refused, not wanting to violate the code of military knowing that they would use his release the powerful piece of propaganda and was like, I will come out as I went in, if you're gonna let me wouldn't go ahead of his other POW. Friends and people that were in there with him. Wow. I mean that's a real hero there for sure. They could let them out. Feet. Don't fail me now. I'm outta here. He didn't know so that's a real hero. That's tell me something good. John McCain was awesome man. There you go there. You have to tell me, something good historical edition here on the Bobby Joe. Thank you very much for listening to our show. We hope you're learning. This story comes from Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, the city council wanna clean up the street. So they said, what can we do? Let's by more street sweepers. They spent two point seven million dollars on ten street. Sweepers got him downtown. They don't fit down the street. Oh wide. They're out two point seven million dollars. Heavy arts and other towns, come in, like, wow, that's thing that you're boneheads story today. Buddy and miss the Bob. Transmitting, of course. Right. Okay. So there's this girl, she's out at a bar at the sky, and he started buying her drinks because I don't know. That's what happens times. They ended up exchanging numbers or how good time will the next day, he starts hitting your up on texts, and he's like asking for her to pay him back for the drinks, you know, like this is what you owe me like been moment. I don't I don't I don't know why. But she thought very bizarre behavior like all the sudden like I don't know if he just didn't get what he wanted. I mean I don't know. I mean, the next day just starts texting her, and he's like, yeah. This is what you own me for the drinks. But I mean, I don't know that, that's the reason why. But if you reimburse. I'm gonna get Sony. Reimbursement. A lot of money, man, any great if I hit everybody back up. Yeah. What a loser loser loser. Bobby bones show. Frank me on the phone yesterday. I don't even talk on the phone either text or FaceTime. Yeah. I don't even know talk on the phone anymore. Like all my social cue. I don't know. I like hawk over. And no window talk like I talk on the phone so low that I'm gone. Yeah. Like the whole conference was awkward and clunky because I don't talk on the phone anymore. You didn't even know how to hold it. Well, I can't hear you. So I turned upside like looking at it. I see you. I didn't never taught my son, you're like a eight year old eighty and many. I text ninety three percent of the time or FaceTime, the other six and a half percent when it's important. Yeah. And or if somebody calls me on the phone, I'm like, what why would you do that? Like I look at it, I'm like, you don't even know me talk on the phone and also get so many robocalls did it is all I expect it to be if it rings just expect to be robocall. You get this all the time, like ten today where a random number. That's almost my number two and then a answering goes. And I'm like a Hello, Mr. bones. It's like it's like a Frenchaccent. I'm like, do you don't know me? Didn't FaceTime me. So I don't know. So that was my technology issue yesterday with you. It's funny because you don't use them either wave and you had a microwave did any such a like. Kinda hippie but not, but not, but she refuses to use a microwave because. Yeah, the weird Al. I don't know. I know I don't know if it's like putting things out into my space that like are carcinogenic or whatever. Like, also, if you use it to reheat food, I feel like it zaps some of the nutrients away. So I'd rather heat it up on the stove, top with fire, but. It takes like fifty million years longer, but cave me beating rocks together trying to get her soup. It does taste good. So, yeah, I to heat up a bead pack for my neck, like if you get really nice and hot, and like you put it but you put it in the microwave and the person that brought it over was like I need your microwave. So. And she likes stood oversight a pull it out of the pantry and plug it in on the countertop. And she put the be the neck Beatty thing in the microwave. And then she kind of leaned over and like hug, the microwave while she was waiting, and I'm like, what are you doing? This is so dangerous right now. I went to the other room hug, the Mike, like killing on it, because it was like right on the island. And so she kinda like she didn't she used as like a headrest. She's waiting for it to be done. So she just kind of like an listen, I'm a rebel, but even I wouldn't do. I was a little shocked. I was like, oh, you do you. But then my kids are, like, mom, can we please keep the microwave Al like when we're hungry? This'll be so much faster. And I'm like no kid until you at one pm. What they're hungry. Mommy. Can we get some some noodles? Okay, kid by nine o'clock. He rubbed these two sticks together you'll have you fire I now but yeah, at least I have one in my house, now, it's in the pantry there's a podcast called velvets edge with Kelly Henderson. And she had on joy Williams who we've had on our show before from civil wars. She solo now but. Favorites. Join talks about meeting Paul McCartney as one of her favorite career moments McCartney and saying he was a fan. He said he UC's. I wanted to die. I die that is only down hill from there. You know what I'm saying? I wanted to think the civil wars, they broke up and someone told her joy, the no-one wanna listener seeing if she wasn't singing next to a man. Oh, that's so well, no one wants to hear you. Unless you're standing next to a managed to respond. I walked twenty five blocks in New York in the snow. I felt like a punch to the stomach, and I have to keep reminding myself that some people may think that, that's okay. But I'm not gonna waste any more time thinking about that. What can I do? Now. Go velvets edge with Kelly Henderson, joy Williams. So you may know from the civil wars or by yourself. Now she's one of my favorites. Hernia record. So sad me, so happy sad. Or someone isn't music happier. I get. In the eighteen fifties. Appreciate bookseller named Edward Leon Scott martinsville made a breakthrough for humankind. Decades before Edison's, phonograph Alexander Graham bills, first telephone call. Scott invented the world's first audio recorder. But the photograph as he dubbed the device had a catch it could record but not play back this recording of Scott singing, Auclair de Lune would not be heard by anyone until two thousand eight. What else is out there? That was never expected to be hurt again. Well funny. Funny. Raised his head in bringing listen to feminism now on podcast, the iheartradio app. Whoever you listen to podcasts, and learn more, and fem dot show. Play name that laugh. I'll play you a celebrity laughed is pretty guess who it is. Amy lunchbox gonna play against each other. The person's going to be easy does count though in the game here. Everybody ready to play. There's no warm of we get warmed up again. Get the joints the loose. No, we're going right to it laugh, number one named that celebrity laugh. All right. You hear that laugh there? That's from our show named the celebrity lab. I'm in for the win. And then all right name. That's Larry laughing. Amy Darius Rucker. Darius Rucker ago. And here it is again. That will be dairy. All right. Name this celebrity laugh. This is from our show. What can you name all of this elaborately lasts all of these from interviews on our show, by the way, name the celebrity laugh play. One more time. I'm in Selva millions guys or no. Oh. Can you name that celebrity laugh? Or. I'll just go with that. I've known. Thomas rhett. That's incorrect. Laugh Luke Bryan. Luke bryan. Look. Right. We are now at laugh. Number three again, off from interviews. We've done on the show at celebrities here we go. He named that celebrity laugh. Can you name that there? Win. Oh, I'm in love. Very low box. Gary lavar. What combs? That is Luke combs. I might name the celebrity laugh here we go. Key name from that, laugh, right there. That's today. For the win. Go was easy. Kali does it sounds so familiar, but I can't I can't. I'm. Seconds. Okay. What John party? Correct. Who have brick? Amy's up three to two going into the last. Last laugh, here we go name the celebrity laugh. I'm what? Oh man. I mean zen watch box you need this one to stay alive. I'm what? Oh. Tragedy. I'm walking. Thank you. I must've something tickled them. Yeah. I'm in for the win. Let's stay alive. Who is that? That's Jimmy from little big town. Oh, what? That laugh Dirksen. No. Yeah. Blake shelton. I'm what but it sounded like. Oh, does it does. What I wonder is Amy there. By the way, that game is a Mike new production. Starts. You want to say. Yeah. Can I get a new winning song? That is definitely on the discussion. Eight is an ex meeting. Okay. Good. Yeah. Gonna vote again or. Yeah. We'll figure out something suggests them key named this laugh. Yeah. This left. With the tough. Yeah, Brian, no. One more time. No. They plan on your car. Hey, Mindy and Austin, what's happening? Oh, yeah. This is all I wanted to trade that the collaboration of what is on the show. They worked so well. And it's fun and positive. And I think we all need a little bit more, positively. And also just wanted to congratulate and own kiddos on the mother of three year old boy and it's such a beautiful journey and I'm glad that she's on that journey, and for more and mother to another just much faster and happiness sent way and, and also wanted to say that the positing but is brought to. On wall and just a note that I am. And my morning. So we'll take you very much. I appreciate the call. You know, we try to keep it you know, as as possible we try to be real and sometimes things come up that aren't awesome. We try to just kind of look everything awesome way like a and also I mean, I'd like to also say congratulations on being U2.. Thanks util. No. Come on. Yeah. No, I mean it. Oh, thank you. Oh, shucks. Thank you say after it then. Shut it down for sure. Thank you for the call Mindy. Appreciate that. That's I like those goals. Nice and we likes to hide our listeners to over to the pile now. Use Amy's pile of stories. So seeing positive things I wanna give a shout out to this high school teenager person in Texas, leeann harass go, because instead of having, you know, a fun graduation party like she coulda done she decided to buy. I mean, this is still fun. But I mean selfish one for herself. And her friends, she decided to buy a hundred pizzas and make four hundred personal hygiene kits with some of our other friends and pass them out at a family development center, called gaffer, homeless people, and like women and children who are homeless like this is what she wanted to do. She's like for my graduation party, don't spend money on a party. I wanna buy stuff to make hygiene kits and order pizza and take it to the shelter so selflessly now if I could Tolstoy real quick about myself sure being selfish. I've turned into the mood chip here. Mighty cuts, apples, God, one of those. Yeah. And he's like, oh, find EMMY brings now Amy brings me a drink every more. This is not a commercial. Now, what is this thing called a cell, the Jonas brothers drink it? So I figure, and if she doesn't bring me one, I'm disappointed in. Yeah. Beat his point except now I'm the mooch gotta have them free apple gotta give them free drink NFL have them a free stuff. I'm kind of like. I didn't have an extra one and I was like, but you can have it. He's like, no, no, no. You keep it you keep it and then, like thirty minutes because by, like you're gonna have that dribble. Go get us a Cup so we can split it. And I had said thirty minutes ago, we could split it. He's thinking. I don't want to take your drink. And then I don't like, oh becoming a mood. Are you? I'm the opposite of glass girl, such a mood. What else Amy south Forbes released their annual list of America's richest self made women, and Oprah is leading the way for all the women how much money she worked two point six billion, south mate. Who's a number two self made at number two in it someone that we were win. This got announced he was a billionaire. We were all shocked realized goal what this. She's like the youngest that we were shocked. She was a billionaire. Yeah. And, you know, savannah, Christly self made is no on. She billionaire. Now. Shocked. She's not on this list, but I mean this person beats, I'm gonna tell you who this person's beating out beats out, Riyan Madonna's Leon judge Judy beyond say. Yeah, is it Frank, dashing her lip kit? Oh jenner. Here's my problem with being self made on this liquor. There's a big debate is, she self-made? Right. She had an entire platform to promote all of this. Yeah. Oprah did not Oprah. Did not these other people did not they I do not feel like she self made. But who cares list? Yeah. They only make lists. So people will talk about them and debate them. But I do not think she self-made because she had help a lot of help. Yeah. She had super millionaire sisters and brothers and platforms and TV show, the pave the way for her. Yeah. So anyway. Who's who's number three? Over Yana will there's like men mixed in. So actually with women at number three on a six hundred million for three hundred million bucks. Yeah. For her fortune is fifty percent bigger than beyond say's. Well, how much you worth? No one Bill. For sure thousand all right. What else thousand air? Okay. So the hot summer fashion trend for men. I just want y'all to be in the know you wanna bus this out, we were unaware straps over, gene. I love those no allegedly the hottest summer fashion trend for men are props in tube jobs, people on Twitter are freaking out, and they're debating whether or not this is a good look for guy. So I'm going to go ahead and say it's not really. Bobby, you know how you did tankeea Friday everyone showing it to me because I could do. Hold on. It's not the hottest. It's probably something that's new hot trend wanting to do it. That's sexy. But on fire. No, I know. But I'm saying is, it's not there aren't a lot of people doing it to you. And they're like this could be a thing is the company that you shop shoplift them sometimes. And they like they're selling crops in tube tops for men for nineteen dollars do like the belly shirts a little bit like Chris Martin words. I'll watch the documentary head full address. And like when he lifts his arms up like his shirt goes to the bottom of kids, just when he lifts his arms up. Yeah. Yeah. Yup. It's it goes, right? To top of his, there's no room for that shirt to go down. And I'm like I told Eddie, I was like I, I'm kind of into that. Like I like doing that. Well so much already like that. Because it for TV they have them super trim, like they, they don't want you look at sloppy. So everything TV when I wear super tight and super short shirts. So what are they thinking about when you raise your hands on TV in your tummy? Raise my hand but all my shirts. Now I'm gonna make a rule. They can't go below manipulates when I wear them like no-shirt below the nobles. All right. Amy is that it, that's my. I mean we that's my pal. Hi, I'm Chelsea handler. And I'm launching a brand new podcast with iheartradio called life will be the death of me. And I'm gonna talk to all these different people, my BFF Mary McCormack. That's what we should call. My book tour the apology for great idea. Sorry. Everyone on this whole pot should be called. It should be called with the orange because of the orange theme in the book Archie. Glad I went to therapy. Life will be the death of me with. Chelsea handler listening subscribe at apple podcasts or wherever you listen to podcasts. The historical addition. The year is, may two thousand and, you know, J K Rowling heard Potter. Yeah. Well, she heard about a young fan named Katie hot who was battling cancer, and would likely not live to see the publication of the fourth Harry Potter book, so J K Rowling called the girl and read parts of the unpublished book to her over the phone. The two kept up by Email and is just really awesome. That she took the time to do that, especially with someone who she knew wasn't going to live long enough to see it. And then that's fantastic. Yeah. And then in her memory, she donated one hundred thousand dollars to cancer charities. That's so cool that she would take the time to call and talk to her and read her book that she would not movie studios will let people come in and watch movies and they're not doing well. You may not see when the new Star Wars comes out, so we're going to show this for you. I want, I can't believe sugar on time and ready to that girl, I know that's crazy. Out, one of my friends like you start reading Harry Potter. Now think you'd love it, even now I tried all you did. I did because another friend of mine same exact thing, especially because we were both in one hundred hunger games, you and me. She bought the books for me. Ship them to my house. No, nobody can get into it, but it was still. Your buddy and math. Transmitting across America. Right. It's thursday. So now we're trying to figure out the morning, corny the investigative corny as Amy redesign joke and me, Eddie lunchbox, which figure out what the answer is we have ninety seconds. Amy. Are you ready? Are you ready? We have ninety we're ready. We get the last one. Yes, we did. Barely. We have a nail in them. We we skated by last week. Morning glory. Why was the broom late? Why was the broom late sweeps? Over over swept. Amy, we're gonna hold on. Morning. Gordon. Why was the broom late? Why was the broom laid overslept? Eighteen. Four nine. A new record from mean. No, that's way faster than I thought you were going to be at that means next year I got to, like, bring this year. Sara S next week, I need to bring in, like a little bit more. Gave a softball do it next week in German weeding. Over on the phones is Tiffany in Colorado. Hey, tiffany. How are you? Hi, body. So happy, call when you want to say. I do wanna stay I'm so grateful for your show. I feel like your show is that the blessing in my life. And everyone's lies that listen to you. And I love Amy Eddie lunchbox org, number two. Hillary Ray everyone. I, I feel so blessed to have you on a radio station. That's very nice of you to say and she just ran down the whole list pretty much everybody show. We quite the staff here. Thanks, tiffany. Anything else you'd like to say before before we do here. I just wanna say keep up the good work. And thank you for everything. You guys do. Thank you for reading books, five. I feel like it just helped people out so much with their lives. And just thank you to everyone for everything that you do every day. What, what nice caller hall today. No prize. But in your heart, you just wanted the number one caller today. How does that feel? Speech speech speeds feet speech speech. I feel so grateful to have gotten through to you. I've only tried to tiny than I got. Amazing. All right. Thank you for the call. Thank you. Have a good day. Okay. You too late. Let's say this to ambush did everybody on joy, we put our patriotic enjoy line out. Our goal was to actually build a house for a hero. His name was army sergeant Scotty west. He lost both of his legs to an ID blast in Iraq and he was renting a place. He's got two kids one, baby. And we're like we can do something. This is our dude is an American hero. We love our military. So we got together, meaning this room in our listeners, because we're the same all of us and we said, hey, we're going to put this up. We don't keep into the money you want to get a shirt or a hat with this wonderful message on it. And right now, I'm gonna give you a drummer Lamey because is very important and she's gonna read to us what we have raised now. From army specialists. Scotty west. Why didn't you say whatever number, you know, I think it's more than that. Well, just what we were on the air. So to say whatever you feel think it's more than this just say, no. One hundred sixty two thousand dollars. About like, Amy's, the worst whisper, because she whispers, right into a microphone right on the air. I know. Sorry, my bad. Anybody else? I think we, we haven't checked it lately. As of right now it's under six thousand dollars insane build, which, I know some people were like, I know your goal was fifty thousand they're like, how did y'all plan on building house or fifty thousand dollars because eight started ADA certified is a really expensive process because American disability payment? So, yeah, it's this is all just contributing towards it. So yeah, and y'all are amazing everybody who has supported it. No. What everybody gets else really. Number number. How do you have how, what just happened that you got an detects? Oh, go ahead. The new drummer. Yeah. All right. I gotta go back to that page. Sorry. Go back now. Go ahead. A hundred sixty five thousand. Good. Are we sell more dates? At the last number I had was once too, and I knew had gone if I just didn't want to, you know not give the correct amount. Well, listen. Thank you to all of our listeners, this show would not exist without you and you're you do so much good. We're happy to be the person that can go look at this, like at that. So that's cool. Now, though a segment that I love to do called on this damn country music you know while love it because your country music's youngest historians. Thank you. Here we go. The phones show on this day today in nineteen ninety seven Tim McGraw fatal spent six weeks at number one on the country chart with the junior, high dance song. Sure. Someone on also crossover on the pop and game girls. I talk ten of the billboard hot one hundred. They were only dating at the time that Tim was picked the song and the romance between the two loss and the year before they went on tour and Tim told us the story of return together. They fell for each other. They were married. He said, I heard the song new instantly. He wanted to record it with fatal by the way, the mayor for twenty two years now and all about that. Wow. Gaff taking your crazy. What's it remind you of this? Here was this seven, I guess their minds move high school. I was gonna say junior high, I guess it wasn't out, then that was other Tim McGraw songs all the other don't take the girl terrible insulin. Does that Tim song and then featuring faith hill? Yes, I believe. So. Yeah. That was good on. Yeah. Experts say you should see a concert once a month, one because you should go because music does a lot of things to your body. But to you shouldn't go more than once a month because it affects your hearing allowed you should go once a month. So last concert, you've been to Amy not work related. Pretty sure like maybe two years ago, I saw kid rock. You did lie did. It's awesome. The bud. I mean was like loving. It was so fun. But I was trying to think we're bad about that because I guess through work, we get different like workmen's, right? Feel like I've seen music, but I'm bad about making that a priority. Because we should it brings you joy to like, go to show and have fun. And now thinking back about how much we had the kid rock show. And I'm like I need to do that more. And then, before that, I think it was when I went to Garth Brooks with you guys, it was tough because we do it all the time for work, right? Got. Gut tell namedrop story. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Name. So I know kid rock a little bit. Controversial as he has to some people like ally him. He's a nice when he won't care about say this you go. And if you have any dinner with Kinrade, he passed one hundred bills to everybody, the whole time, the staff the wager he has pack stike hundreds, valet hundred dollars like not just dollars hundred dollars. He's so generous by I like the guy and I know he can rub people the wrong way. And he does purpose a lot too. But I don't think I would namedrop if it was like a wonderful story. And yeah he's got money. But also, he's like, hey what's your name even witches? It weren't servant is just like a hundred dollars while the stack will, it's cool. Yeah. It's anyway. I hope that wasn't too namedrop. He now, we think anyone knew that so okay. Name. Thank you very much. The last concert, I went to was Gary Klar junior. Listen to me. This guy. Going plane. Casey must graves in my own time. Girl. She sees. This down. Yeah. That's mine, lunchbox contract. You went to Garth Brooks here in town. He was performing at the big arena, and I took the wife and it was awesome. Say once a month should go to a concert. These. I think mine was late last year took my kids and my wife to see the beach, boys. Because they're older. Yeah. As old so it was all is that the right? Word is cool to see the beach boys. But they were all, not, not a lot of movement up their uncle Jesse was there, though, Jace, stamos Johnston play the drums song, so that made it kind of cool. Number two last concert. You saw it was recently, it was Brooks and Dunn for their crossroads taping. By the fire in your tent. Go to act concert, we laughing at hers, just like, you know, just the other day mugging about town, this he does stuff. That's good. And give you should you should we give you a hard time because you're listen. You're twenty five. You have the, the jar of youth. Live it. Don't let us hold. Don't let us hate on you. I don't I don't eat on you. Do you feel on you the most for being young and fun, Eddie? Yeah. Yeah. This. Bother time over the grump. So hope. Let's just Graham the conversation for a second. There's two point two billion people who use Facebook. That's about the size of Christianity. There's one point nine billion people who use YouTube. It's about the size of his lung. Welcome to sleep. Walkers, a podcast about how technology is changing our lives in ways. We don't even notice. How? John. I don't know how we dig into the new technology that is altering, how we understand the world and ask, what effect is it having on us based on what people with setting full, we could direct them to videos on YouTube that counted ISIS propaganda. I'm care price on sleep. Walkers, we dive deep into the revolution. And find out what it means for our future, with the people who are building it every week will bring you mind blowing accounts of a in daily life from algorithms in American courtrooms to a UFO that came out of the sky in northern Mexico like subscribe to sleep Bucker on apple podcasts, the iheartradio app or wherever you listen to podcasts. Our audio guide Raymundo used to come in with the same my called crazy. Ray the weather guy, and we're gonna cancelled it because he would just coming in scream weather from random cities, and we kinda got the point right run its course but he came back and we have these pitch sessions. And it's like I have a new idea for crazy rate of weather guy. I will. You can we'll try it out on the air. All right. So what's the difference now? So I'm gonna go with Spanish, the Spanish addition of crazy. Ray. The weather guy. So it's local Raimondo. Loco Raymond, Joe. It's logo Raymundo how you say whether guy in Spanish. I don't know. Precipitations. No, no, no. I hear is low. Luck. Loco Mundo precipitates. Yo. I don't think that's right. It's an meteorological yoed, how do you sit? Media lofa. Logical low low. Call right out of Joel. Logo Raymundo meteorological. And in the action. Vegas. Kellyanne day. I. Lost Vegas is. Las Vegas already in Spanish, right? That's perfect. Go ahead north, the next city, the next doing Austin Tejas. Okay, go ahead as blade. Omb I gotta eat those important taco Cabana by each Banias. I'm offended. The weather Margarita, Mexican food weather like you to go to band together. Mark. Meteorology s boy, no, it's, it's good weather. Wave saying it's good. You can sit outside and have tacos Margarita, I'll feeling so far. Okay. I know. All right. Real as more bustle meadows, no boy, brought away. So Viva in. Lives in national right? But the weather is also Mundo. All right. Go. Well, listen, we gave it a run. You give it a shot gave it a shot. Do you know because he has a hit song? Call Bakke shit. It's not really Raymundo. He wrote part of the song, and he doesn't rap hard. I live performance this. Yeah. I ended up talking to the guy or DOD Kelly ban. I think we're getting her to, and we're all joined up and doing it baby fast. Yeah, we're like competing with the big people at the big states church. Carrie Underwood all them. Adrian. Instagram, amending noodles, our catamaran. Become about right. Alive, yet, a goal is not too many beers before you know I'll be a little nervous. I laugh performance, where do you this? It's called the local West End. Yeah bar. Yup. So you're Keith urban planet Nissan, and you're playing west ends those about five miles away. What every country are is in town, right now perform and doing their stage stuff. And I'm like we had to do it this week. We couldn't push it out a little bit. But here we go. Bring it all right. As you and your girl, good. Good. Yeah. Yeah. Got Bakke she's gonna make -ation. He has to go on vacation the rest of us. Because if we all leave, nobody can run the show. Right. So what are we go on vacation? He has to be here. So you're in you're going to Hawaii. Wow, maui. And so what, what's the big plan mean, we're research and stuff left? And right. She's like, hey here's a cruise. We gotta pay additional hundred dollars to see the fireworks. I mean so the Hawaii isn't used land there and you go into dense forest, there's, you got to pay for this hula dance that ain't free. Oh, wow. Much once you land in Hawaii, the only thing that you don't pay for is the lay. No, I'm saying when you first get off the plane. They don't they don't give you that it's not the Brady bunch. Get off. They don't put that on. You just go there for and go. Do you do pay for it? But her pops heated hoagie, W got us a Jeep, so wait dad paying for the whole vacation. Jack. You do that don't know how to thank the guy for that one. But how about right now, her daughter, lows Laura's to his that? Thank you. Yeah. Yeah. Her dad's paying for your whole vacation. Yes. Very, very excited and very, very thankful. Do you have a credit card that you get to use of his oh, once we get paying cash bringing American money throwing it left? America America, Hawaii. Tampa, I'm taking America money, you know crap. Barroga money. Using days. Pesos, we'll do it all we're swim. With the sharks norcal in. No, you're not. Was not. You're not they haven't excursion. We've been looking at for fifty bucks. A cage go down there. And here's things. Here's a dollar. I'm gonna do high end. That's right. He's sharks. And I'm not gonna pay to do it high end. But I'm not getting with Shari. A lot of money because that's how you know, you're saying guys, it's like a cage. Eight bucks. Point that direction just throw you do surf into one of the most dangerous beaches breakneck beach. I'm going to do that one. I know. On my. Yeah. I've surfed before breakneck beat. Yeah. About this beach. Oh, you just research it. We got a manual and all that pretty much beauty. The internet is you can learn whatever you want from any island in America in the world. Breakneck beats try. He's like, you know, we're gonna take some time over to kicking this Gordon cove. We shot read about listen vacation and win is your kitchen. Last week of June. Yeah, creeps in fourth of July right around there. Well, listen, I'm happy for you. Absolutely. And her dad's paying for it, far as I know and keep saying, oh, this has been added on he did that, and we're just chilling it a bungalow with our two best friends from Texas. Is he paying for them to they're covering a lot of their own stuff with the Jeep ride around in that sure it takes gas and stuff? I'm sure it does to with semi boo. Yeah. Hey, with America money per sure adult. Pushover rubles. I like to pay with the end today. Mr hawaii. None of that. All right. The all right. Good to talk to you, there. He is Raymond. The historical edition marks the year was two thousand Sarah, George was out in Wyoming. And she decided to go for a hike, and she made at the top of a mountain, but she was suffering from dehydration. Altitude sickness was throwing up. She wasn't gonna be able to make it down. She sends out an emergency signal a helicopter has to come and rescuer. Tuck from the top of the mountain, and when she gets in the helicopter, you know, who's doing the helicoptering Harrison Ford. What's yes he had a helicopter. And he was able to fly in their rescuer on solo day Indiana Jones. What's craziest later on in life? He has crashed a couple of plane. So I made it's a mix. They made it out. But who can fly? Thank you. Your buddy miss the five. Transmitting across America. About it. That's right. Hello. No L in Colorado. What's happening? Nothing. I. Don't ever read, and I got your book sale until you don't like grinder pre I had you because I'm actually, I went to from the blue comfy you Denver. Denver. Yes, AM. And I'm bringing my dad and I started yesterday are re sixty eight pages in ochre I'm laughing, I'm laughing at, you know, things and, you know, this stuff, you say and relating some of the things that dad stuff like that. And I'm just like I can't wait to read it after like put it down. So I can do my work or whatever. But like on my lunch break very reading it. You. Think it's sweet. If you bring the book with you the show love the sign it. So I want to come to the raging idiot show we'd love to see it will be in Denver coming up Denver Chicago how we're starting our comedy music toward the raging idiots at raging idiots dot com. So tell me, they're reading that book was Tom shrimp, with them. Dude, halfway through your fail until you don't allow, I know. And I was like your people like you read it goes. Yeah. Did. That's cool. I was like, what you're more like, oh, you're reading that while you weren't like you read, no hater out. No. He does. I'm making sure how Bobby phrase it has to be careful when he shot that people are reading his own each that anybody doesn't need to make sure that your shocks reading your shock that they read, whatever he wants. Yeah. I read the halfway through your book fail until you don't. It's nice sweet of you. Would you tell them? I listen to your songs. No can't stand him. He knows I'm a big fan, right? Funnies. I haven't had any music. I don't know. Man, I love dogs read. Okay. So we got a couple of things trickier. What's coming into a little bit? That's interesting, right. Yeah. And she's awesome. Hey, Noel, you still there? Tale. Oh, cool. Tell us. Hello to know. I want you to answer this question. Okay. 'cause it's a little debate, we have amongst the show, would you mind just being a part of our conversation for one second. No problem. Okay. No. How old are you? I'm thirty five or perfect for this question. Amy has two children and her youngest daughter is now twelve she just turned twelve and she loves friends now. Yes, she got introduced to friends when we were in New York City, because we, if it's on TV TBS or something in the hotel room and then it was cool, because we were to show her, like, oh, this is in New York, and we went to central park, and we're like this is where like Phoebe would go for run like it was all New York things. And so she watched a couple episodes there and now she loves it, and she wants to watch it at home. And of course, I wanna watch it, too, but I don't know if it's like a pope rate for twelve year old, I don't know, if she's like some of the stuff I think, is lost on her the adult stuff, but I would much rather watch friends with her, then, like another episode of supergirl are flash so can Amy's twelve year old daughter doesn't matter that she's twelve or that she's only been in the states for like a year and a half or so. Is that factor in? All of it like some stuff is lost on her because of the English. But the translation, but I don't know is it okay? If I let my twelve year old watch friends with me Noel, your thoughts. I think you should let. Let are watch friends with you. Because then you can honor that show for one was on the stuff of our head twenty two you okay? Now, they're making the kid movies that are funny to us. I can't remember the last kid his movies that they're like, doing a dull content jokes that are wear the kid says, but you're, you know, you're, you're buying tickets to take take the kids in at least you're getting last two. Oh, it's fine. You know, you know you talk about the characters and stuff like that. And she doesn't need to know every little detail, and then you can always refer back to it when she's like sixteen seventeen years old to near holding she's asking questions like, oh, remember that fringe show the sex, that's the stuff I have to worry about because they date a lot. There's a lot of that talk. So, and then I thought, well, if anything, maybe it'll give us an opportunity to talk about sex, because I think that we should we'll hear wings. You realize you're Joey. That's part of the talk. He has every night because. A lot of friends. I think I think it's okay because, you know, there's definitely content that's like questionable blankets. Okay, but I think you should probably be with it or what she watches friends for at least for a while she'd laugh so hard like she thinks, like Phoebe hilarious. I hear her laugh out loud, like, like I never hear her laugh, and I'm like this is so cool. He's eleven okay? Kind of the same. See, I'm having the same kind of problem with Seinfeld, because I think he would really love Seinfeld the humor in it and all that. But I just don't think the content is good for him right now. So you would say, no, I would say veteran like watch the episode beforehand, and be like a good one to watch, and then you have to be like you, can you can watch smelly cat. But would love smelly. All right. That's your baby. Watch friends. Yeah. That big a deal. My parents, let me watch Pretty Woman when I was nine yeah, I watched Mary with children. I mean I didn't know what was going on. I just thought it was a fun family show. I didn't know she does a prostitute. Okay. I didn't I know. I think it's okay. Eddie doesn't and no. Well does. I think you should I think you're okay, cool sweet and you can watch it with her. Yeah. So pumped about that, and yeah, we're gonna bond over it. If you want to open at eight seven seven seventy seven Bobby mentioned the most viewed Netflix shows here on the show. They put up thing like the most viewed of all the show. No, we haven't the number one and two shows on Netflix all shows are the office and friends of every show. They've put out court every those are the two most dream shows, number one, the office, number two friends that crazy guy. I'm sure you've added to those numbers to try all personally. On the Bobby bones show now Tricia earwood. Welcome to our temporary studio. It's like a hole in the wall. But I just got a peak. It was coming very cool. Thanks. I appreciate that. I hand built the whole new studio myself. I was in there all night. And I noticed that I mean I feel like you're, you're very handed after the last night. Well last night. I saw you last night. I did see you saw your shirt thinks loved your shirt, though. The, the support female. Yes. Before I was running with sharpie people thought that we'd love sharpie, and I was looking to dress comfortably, and send a message and you did both. Thank you. And you should do some more of those and just sell the truck your car. You know, if I had a trunk car. Jeep thing working let me say this about, you say this yesterday. We were spending time together. You didn't even know it split into the channels. And I ended up watching a marathon of your show. And I watched the one that you end Delilah. Yeah. And it was so good. I love Delilah to her voice man. I know everybody makes her voice. Yeah. Do you talk to your kids like that? She's like now, aren't you won't use the nice voice with us. And when you intro to even on the show, you're like an your. Have to watching though. And I don't I'm not a food cooker watcher cooker watcher. Okay. You don't have to be don't know how to cook. I like three things but I was watching the show. You do good show, people that don't know how to cook. I don't do anything I'm pretty much I'm cook. I'm not a chef. So I do basic things and I want people to feel that they could make it. That's why I guess I didn't feel so stupid. Because I was like, oh, I can do that. You could totally do that. Are you? Good. Yes, I feel like because we've been able to spend some time together even a bit. Socially in the past few months. Yes, we've been talking about can't wait for the country's on come out, and you're the guy who didn't want to hear it ahead of time. And didn't wanna hear before I came out morning, I, I know this. I'm excited. I'm not getting it's kind of like Christmas. I can sleep last night. Really, really still even with every even with everything. It's like I was talking last night, I had the chance to be on that tenue Tucker moment of delta, dawn, and standing there talking with deana Carter and curly, Pierce kind of these generations of women and Dina. Now, we're talking about that about feeling like just so lucky to be here and doing this. And so I yeah, I mean I I'm giddy, like I was in the car driving over. Here listening to you talk about friends, and I was like play the song. I wanna hear it in the car. Oh, no. I haven't heard it in the car yet. So that will be the true every time you're in the car you text me. I'll play it every do. Hell I need to hear it in the car today. I need you to play for today while I'm in the car, I'll do I'm gonna play it right now. But I'll do it later, to like, if you leave and we played again, do in the car. I really do. I it's a thing like you have to hear it in the car. It's not real. You know what I'm saying? When you leave just text me, I will play it again. Even like at this hour. Let me play right now and we'll come back Tricia, your woods here. We have some stuff. Talk about one did something bear thing in front of you. And to you did something that I thought would have been embarrassed for me, but, but you handled it like a champ talking about. I'm embarrassed all the knows what, what? On the Bobby bones show now Tricia earwood all the girls singing. Kayla Caitlyn's on the writers on the song, I love her voice. So she singing, I'm singing, Karen, Michelle, my friend, who had Georgia Raina, singing, and then, and we just double some things. So it's really just a few girls. So what's up? Tell me about the song wide that song, you know, it's, it's interesting. I guess I started looking for songs about a year ago, and I really didn't have agenda. I had didn't have a plan. I just really wanted to make a country record at Bill been a minute. You know. And I just wanna find songs I love this one of the first I heard, and I just liked it kind of reminds me of how felt when I first heard, like, she's in love the boy, like I didn't have like, you know, ever know you never know what's gonna happen on the song you just know you have to love it. And I just liked it. And then after I finished the record and I kinda played it for my little team. G Y. They it just kind of emerged by said, this is this is the one like this is what we need to start with. It's not a it's a girl power song. But it's not it's not a preachy thing is just saying, we're on this together, and I love the you. Got this baby. So what if you don't line that's like that, that sold us on for me? I'm like, sometimes you are on your game. And sometimes you aren't. And it's okay, there's power, I hear it. I feel power for girls guys are almost girls too. You're in every. He can relate. I'm gonna I'm gonna get a sharp. You make your shirt that says that I'm also in every girl. Thank you, trust your. What's your? Okay. So I tell the stories one we were in Los Angeles, and we were all hanging out in a room back, and you had a coffee. Oh my gosh. Yes. And trish. It's a new copy the fresh copy. It's full coffee and Tricia hits it with their knee in expose all over everywhere. And it was the most boss move ever since you whatever. And just wears the coffee. Change. You're just like you know what this happened? And she wore the copy the rest of the night, and I was like you're the cold person I've ever been. I'm going to turn into perfume. I think like, oh I mean, if I could wear coffee, not a bad idea, actually just aware coffee, outfield wars on me. I'm. Now, my mama was at Trish came over the house, and we were talking, and we're talking about, like some early stuff in our career and read this thing on a piece of paper. And I was like, I don't know how to bring this up because I feel if I'm not knowledgeable, and interview on me like I feel like I'm the best interviewer like IVA confidence in the very prepared. You know, you're very prepares and like I understand music parts of things that just and I'm like, well, I'm just gonna go for, I don't know this about Tricia, and I feel stupid for not knowing. And I was like, so when you were in the air force, and she was, like, I was never actually when he first said, he's like, so you wanna be an agent, and then that when that didn't work out in the new course you're in the U served in the air force, and I'm like looking at him. Like, why is he messing with me? Like what is Bobby doing right now? And I'm like, I don't know if he's just like pumpkin me or what it was his false information line. And I felt so information online said that she was in the air force. And when I got home, I looked it up, and it is it isn't a couple of places, and I'm like to, like, who does that who puts that information out? So it's not your fault. You did your research. It was there looked in your window before he came over and city from my military photo just serve. So what's, so you're gonna go today, because it's CME weaker Nashville. So what I'm on sure what superstars do during CNN week. Well, it's been awhile since I've been a big party may. We have come and done some stuff you know what one or two things, but this week has really been with a new single for the first time in a long time is making the rounds and basically, like have always done. It's like wherever you wherever you guys want me to go. I'm going like I you know, whatever whatever needs to be done, so, and then the thing is that you're singing this as really a rainy song. It's really low and, and really high. And so my whole thing is just usually by the time you get to performing it somewhere. You were so exhausted and you're sick and you can't really sing. So, like I just have to keep it together for a couple more days because we're seeing it today a few times, and we did it acoustically yesterday for something that we're filming. And that that was really the first time I had really performed at. And it was really cool. So I don't know where everywhere today. Do know all the words I do, like my heart. Yeah. I do a normal arket. We were talking, you know, when you did the Frank Sinatra record, there's a lots a lot lot, a lot of songs, and you can't mess, those words. Yeah, no. And they are they're, you know, they're clever and Iran's and all of that. And after I recorded that album I kind of I was started working on this record. And so I kind of went away from it. And when I performed it live with the first time I that afternoon, I think, I told you, I was, like when they all laugh that song particular has thousand words, and I'm like, in their all it's all these little stories, and you're just like I'm gonna I'm gonna miss this up. This is different though. This has been about a year of working on it, and really listening. And usually when I'm done with a record kind of put it away. But so far, I just keep listening. So, and we have fourteen songs on the record coming out in the fall, and I love everyone of them. So which let him next question. You answer that have two other questions than she's answering all my questions for me. It's like it's like we're at the. Austell country music predict me before I get there. Okay. Two things. One Amy you, you and your daughter. Yeah. Did they reach? I don't know. Yes. Same art are in the video. You're in the. So what does that mean? Okay. Well we're ever wherever girl, girl. So there's a leering video that's up came out this morning, and it is, it's photographs of every girl, you know, and so a lot of this is my myself, and I picked pictures of me from childhood on that are not like the POS. Cute pictures. I posted the really goofy pictures of myself, and in some cute ones, and some really bad school photos, and my sister, and my friends and, and just every girl. So it's kind of, we're hoping that this is going to be the first and then the then the video video, we shot with also some friends and family or hoping to kind of the to be continued. So every girl could be could be could continue an out, actually like to see in every girl video that's all guys say. What are you? The guy. Target-oriented toddling name. He's in the lyric video. Yeah. So wherever girl, she's gonna for. I didn't know I haven't really liked told her so now that I know that it's up all show her. Again, I came into that came out today. So I'll show stuck here and I'll be like here in a music video because she changes all the time, which wants to do when she grows up like it's been, you know, Dr singer actress, like I don't even know where she she's she doesn't suck on anything, but I'll be like, well now you're, you're in a music every grow in your every girl. Every girl. Yes. Cool, your woods here. One, one other thing, the story about the airplane and the person underneath your seats. Yeah. Can you walk me through that? I can I can walk you through it. So, I was this was in the early nineties and I was on the road. I had celebrated my birthday in Reno Nevada, I had a show that night and I had had some tequila and I was a little bit hung over and I was in, but I was sitting in first class, the only person overalls in first class and I was kinda just it was early like six clock in the morning and I'm sitting there and the plane starting to leave the gay. And I hear underneath my seat, this pounding like, and I hear like help me help me, and I'm thinking I mean, I'm not that hung over like this, like, something right? And I don't also don't drink tequila anymore. Can't do it but so I I'm looking around. Nobody's really doing. And then I'm thinking I'm crazy because no one's really noticing. And then I hear it again. And then some people are kind of looking around and almost like laughing like this is Joe. Or something? But it sounds it sounds like as right underneath my seat in it, sounds seriously and about that time, the flight attendant is walking by to make sure, but he's buckled in. And I said, I think I think someone's in the underneath the plane like I don't know something's going on, and then we, then he did it again. And she heard it and stop the plane went back to the gate and opened up the bay. And I saw him just fly out the underneath where the baggage was, so I, I don't know. I don't know if he was loading baggage by himself. I don't know if he's somebody forgot he was in there. I don't know if he ticked off his buddy. They was working with. I don't know what happened but I think he probably owns the airline now. But on the guy Garth Brooks. Yeah. I like that guy. Lesson. Yes, I do. You can come back here on told us last time whenever you want. I love you too. I'm gonna call you you're going to be sad. You gave me your number. But maybe he could happen Tricia your. What is here? I'm so happy, new music out. And when you get the record come home back, I will. And thank you for having me, always, and I also big lizotte fan. I saw you, you love those music differently that, that whole record is like what in the world is she? Oh, wow. She's doing. That's so different so different. And so, again, we're talking about kind of girl power, like just so positive. It all makes you just feel good about yourself and feel like the possibilities are endless, we just did a photo shoot for the cover that when it ever comes out, and I played, Liz, oh, all day because I was like, I wanna hear this music that makes me feel like I can do anything and I it was really cool. Very impounding. That's, that's good to know throw that on, if you gotta do like, yes, we did a shot in a phone. Ole Tom phone booth. And she has a song co where the hell my phone and that's pretty much the whole Eric. And so that became that's the name of that whole setup. What is here? Not too. Sure what his leaving. But I'll see you Sunday at Nissan stadium. Yes. And then you'll be in the same outfit. Always, and I see every night when I close my eyes. Go to not true. It is. So. Whatever. On the phone is Tricia earwood right now in our car Tricia. I am in my car allergists. I heard that really that nature song every town. And I was wondering. In the car, we don't take requests. I'm sorry. What she leaves the room. I'm not her friend anymore. Sorry. We don't do request, okay? I'm gonna I'm gonna play now. Get trish. Thank you safe trip in enjoy this new song gonna play for you. Everybody's calling about right now. Thank you. Treasure your wood. What's up everybody? You know, a lot of times, I sit home and I'm like, I'm just like Dolly Parton. You do know here's a story that says, Dolly Parton sleep through their makeup on. Last night, after any, my TV Steph because they put make up on me. And I'm telling you, I kinda look pretty with all of it on. It makes me look pretty good. I'm not that pretty without it, but they can make all the ugly slots go away. It's magic and like make your cheekbones look good. We're looking in the mirror. I go I'd hit me, but Dolly Parton sleeps with their makeup on. It's crazy to me, because she has such great skin. I guess some people are just lucky like if I were to do that would break out all the time. Well so far. So good on me. And then I'm on the next four nights. I'm just going to be abundant makeup face. Like when you show up in their replying makeup. Are they cake it on? Or do you ever rinse it off a wash my hair? I don't kick it up. I'm washing my hair generally once a month, but stop. Once a month, maybe if it's longer, I can't control it. So I have to control the sweating. So I don't wash my hair. But then, but why are you doing once a month? Why don't more sometimes once a week should be good? I didn't ask judge. I know I'm telling you I'm being vulnerable spot. Oh. Oh, no. Once a month thirty days when it's really short. I watched all the time. Like when I get a haircut, but I can't get my hair so curly. Like as soon as it grows out, it turns into super curls. So even with hot yoga and stuff. Writing or fine writing that peleton sweat. It's like moves all the time. Wonder this might be as you girl for. Share anything in the circle. Now got judge do. Yeah, I'm trying though is and somebody right now really doesn't know really yet. But who is it? Okay. Her name is shot. Kate Bosworth now have you ever given an update about your international date night? Don't even know what? I don't know anything you said it, right. Sometimes to the what I say. Say he did. He did. I would like to say this to our listeners of this show would just appreciate you so much. We not the normal. Whatever morning shows are we get it. Sometimes. We're so different that it's not good as we're so different that it's the best. But that being said, we don't know what we talk about on the air, sometimes because we have the same conversations off and I'll be like that on the air about it with you. There's a girl that is setting me up with who doesn't live in the states. But lives close to the states. Okay. And either Mexican or Canadian sure and Central America or Russia from Alaska. Yeah. Yeah. Doesn't. That's what you're talking about. But there's no update because we're still trying to figure it out. She went video the green card. A woman in a restaurant calls a guy fat because online together, and he's like, okay so buys up all the fried chicken in front of her. So she can't get any. Oh my gosh. Yeah. How about that one other thing? Tom version was on Twitter yesterday saying, hey fans dancing with stars twenty nineteen. There'll be a lot of changes. We hear you take the a shot to me. Oh for sure. There's nothing else. He's talking about. And I like Tom burns Ron, but it's like we hear you what you want voting. We this team we changed answering the stars. I'm gonna go back for the first episode. And just because I don't fly people off because I don't do that in my hand. I don't do that. But I'm gonna do the finger next in the middle finger. Yeah. Because that's just the ring finger ring fingers all around. Yeah. I don't even know what that means. I love that show. Bobby show as we in the show today, Mr. Bobby bones on Instagram or Bobby dot com. See pictures and videos the music. We're listening to at their Bobby bones dot com. Would you agree with that? Same Amy one hundred percent very much have a great day about it. Bobby show. In the eighteen fifties. Appreciate bookseller named Edward Leon Scott to martinsville made a breakthrough for humankind. Decades before Edison's phonograph or Alexander. Graham Bell's, first telephone call. Scott invented the world's first audio recorder. But the photograph as he dubbed the device had a catch it could record but not play back this recording of Scott singing, Auclair de Lune would not be heard by anyone until two thousand eight. What else is out there that was never expected to be hurt again? Well. Decks. 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ET - Eddie Van Halen Tribute

The Eddie Trunk Podcast

47:39 min | 6 months ago

ET - Eddie Van Halen Tribute

"Thank you for listening to this podcast one production. Now, available on Apple podcasts podcast one spotify and anywhere else you get your podcast. Since nineteen eighty three eighty truck has been the voice for fans of rock hard rock and heavy metal of bestselling author host of TV's that metal Shell and seven national radio shows including trunk nation daily on Sirius Xm. Interesting Eddie offers. The world is news making interviews, passionate analysis, honest commentary, and who knows what else. So welcome to the any trunk podcast. Welcome everybody it's Eddie Trunk, and this is the be trunk podcast new episodes. Every Thursday podcast one, dot com apple podcasts in spotify. Thank you for listening and checking it out each and every week it is greatly appreciated. PODCAST is being brought to you by our good friends at goodies. Yes. Good. He's great. New Product goodies hangover. You gotTA check it out with a powerful pain reliever in a boosting ingredient. 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You'd be amazed at how many people don't know what a Selfridge stamped envelope is that would be an envelope with your return address and a stamp on it. And do not seal the return envelope please. Many people do that and I can't put the item in it. Po Box Forty one senior knows New Jersey Oh seven, ninety seven for the very cool trunk nation Eddie Trunk. Goodies bumper sticker, and maybe some select envelopes will get a sample of the powder as well. Okay so Here we are with another podcast and obviously. Last week the new podcast posted on Thursday. It was too late. To, be able to do anything on the passing of Eddie van, Halen that was already out and in process of being posted to all of you guys obviously some time has passed now since you're hearing this a little over a week since the news. Of Eddie Van Halen. The tragic news and I have covered this extensively if you are in the US or Canada and you listen to my Sirius XM radio show trunk nation on volume as I've been telling you guys the interviews you here on the podcast originate there you can hear that show every day on one. Oh, six live two to four PM Eastern time on Sirius Xm nightly replays ten to midnight eastern. If you do listen to that show, I have dedicated almost two straight weeks talking about and celebrating Van. Halen with a huge variety of artists, everyone from Neal Schon to Mike McCready to Tom, Morello to Sebastian Bach to Bret Michaels to Scott Ian to Tom Keefer and on and on and on. Have all come on the show and talked about Eddie van Halen I have talked about it in depth. So. Really to get overly in-depth with my thoughts today would be a bit redundant feeling and I'm sure you've heard all about it at this point. Only thing. I. Can say is You know in a nutshell of course, as I've been saying that Van Halen an incredible guitar player. But above and beyond that I think that sells it a little short because he was a great producer he was an all round great musician played multiple instruments a great songwriter, an innovator and inventor I mean so many things beyond just a great guitar player and I made the case. So many times you know you can have all the great guitar playing you want. But if you don't have great songs to go with it, it often doesn't matter quite that much and that was the thing about van Halen great songs, timeless great songs, and to me that is what was the icing on the cake those records are. As. Timeless as ever and we will always have those records sadly in the last twenty, five years not very much from van Halen but the good news is. Seemingly, a ton of material in the studios and the vaults never released. For many many years decades, van Halen have played things very close to the vest and not put things out like that will that change now if the family and the estate decides to change on that, well, we will have tons. Of Van Halen material for decades to come if they feel it's worth putting out and WANNA share it with the public that is only the decision of their the family and the people who control this now, which would probably be Alex and Wolfgang we will see what the future holds but the rock world rightfully. So mourning the passing of a true icon and giant. The likes of which we will never see again in the world of rock. and. I've certainly done that for the better part of week and a half on my daily radio show on Sirius. XM here on the podcast today I'm GonNa give you a tiny taste of that. And we may do a little more this next week I haven't decided. But interestingly enough some of the people that reached out to me immediately when Eddie van Halen passed away were not guitar players, they were singers. And yes, a ton of guitar players did as well. But I think an interesting perspective here will be from two singers to famous rock singers. We will bring to you today I up Bret Michaels of poison. Second Sebastian Bach formerly of skid row. Both of them have great insights and stories to share and love to share for Eddie. Van Halen and I thought. You know the logical easy path would be to bring you Morello or John Five or Mike McCready or some of these Guitar Heroes Neil Sean, all of which I appreciated calling in, and again, we might bring some of that next week. But I thought, let's take it from just a fan perspective from a lead singer on the impact of Eddie van Halen and Van Halen. So we'll start with Brett and then we'll follow up with Sebastian. Two singers. Had huge success and continued to have success in their career and still incredibly active in their careers. And we'll get thoughts on Van Halen and more with them. On this week's podcast I. Think you are going to enjoy it remember please follow me on social media at Eddie Trunk twitter where most active instagram fan page on facebook any trunk dot com is the official online home as well. Also, I am on cameo if you'd like a personalized greeting, please go to cameo dot com and order don't use the APP. If you have an apple device, it cost you and me money order directly AT CAMEO DOT com. I also want to tell you guys that. Just, escaped me what I wanted to tell you but I wanted to tell you something. Oh. Yeah. So. I am going to be part of a couple live shows that are going out. There's a toward that starts tomorrow. By an actor and a musician that goes by the name of Bald Man. And I'm going to be hosting some of these shows where they are gonNa have a great band perform. Featuring. 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So if you're interested come on out and see me at the shows listed, I'm not on all the shows just the ones I mentioned just the ones listed on Eddie Trunk Dot Com she just wanted to throw that out there to you as well. Okay. Let's come back and get into our interviews this week first Bret Michaels then Sebastian Bach on this week's podcast. was. Coming. Around. Starting to staying on, join me every week for the Michael Irvin podcast we'll give you the four imp ip experience I'm talking everything football to fashion I will be chopping it up with playmakers, headline makers, and I am throwing haymakers. Again VP. Don't miss new episodes of the MVP, the Michael Irvin podcast every Thursday on apple podcasts podcast one in spotify. Everybody. It's Eddie Trunk. Mentioned we're going to remember at Van Halen with two singers this week singing the praises of the late great guitarist I up here he is from poison bret michaels. But. How are you man how you hold it up with this horrible news? I you know Eddie first of all hello and and second of all again like everybody out there in life the music community everything it's devastating I mean Eddie van Halen is besides going beyond the the the guitar. wizardry the the original playing the sound. The Guy was one of the few guys that can mix insane could car licks with writing great songs. It was like the perfect combination and I think all of us especially mead just devastated to hear the news and for his obviously his immediate family and friends It's just really it's painful to hear the news he's such a an unbelievable guitarist and guy. In the last twenty, four hours a little less since the news broke. In me it's really amazing to me Brad and maybe not when you given what I just said and what we know the impact was. But if you scroll through any social media that you use or whatever there isn't a person that was that is remotely in any way loving or connected to rock that this guy did not impact I mean I've. You've never seen anything like it when I've done and unfortunately, I've had to do a lot of these sort of tribute shows lately way too many that I. Wish. I wish. I was doing but this is one of those cases where there isn't anyone that doesn't want to talk about the guy because he meant so much to them. What was the first time and I'm asking everybody this what was the first time? You heard Van Halen tell me the story. I remember it beyond specifically. This is a true story. I I was at my Fred. Friends Ted. Zinc. Owes basement. That was his name mccan expert Pennsylvania and I remember being down there and we heard eruption. Heard option and then all of a sudden, his older brother owned the album and it kicked into, you really got me. You know that bound now took it out on now and at that moment, not that not that day that moment changed my life I was like it was the best sound I'd ever heard it was unbelievably court heard people talking about the album but there wasn't social media then so you heard it through. Word of mouth and that moment changed my life. Now being that I was a true up and coming really starving decision. I borrowed that record from Ted wrinkles older brother and I took a severe beating for taking that album home with me and it was worth every I took an ongoing beating for about a week and I gave the record back and they still took a beating, but it was worth every meeting I talk. Beating like verbally I'm talking about physical A. Couple of black is for getting the van Halen record of Mike McCready Mike McCready from Pearl. Jam was on just before you and he was he said something which blew my mind. He said to me that when he first started taking guitar lessons and his first lesson guitar teacher played a mirror option and I was like man talk about setting the bar intimidating. You as a player I would imagine for you. You're you're a young up and coming starving musician and you hear eruption and that to me would be like you know what? I think I'm just gonNa Front. The bed I think I'm just GONNA sing. To with. My first let me add to that story I can't. Take, it away but I can add to it my first guitar lesson, the right 'cause I love the guitar was at Sta Bil's music on Randall road, I went into take guitar and back then you could smoke. So the rooms were the size of your maybe a small compact car yet a little plug in and the guy was smoking a cigarette setting into chair I went to play some a little that. Early early Zeppelin Sweet Home Alabama and they said, no, no. Follow the notes and I played Mary had a little lamb. You know a little bump bump bump and I'm like no no no no. That was my one and only lesson I went straight to the class act right after that I went to scare van Halen Zeppelin and and learn from listening and it is that is true stories gets and but it was when I heard that the rhythm guitar of you really got me and all of a sudden goes. On and kicked in it was i. can't explain you got chills my arm it was light changing. See. That's the thing I've been saying ever since yesterday the immediate Goto and I get it is great guitar player incredible playing. You know the hammer on the shredding and all that. Yeah. But also the songs without the great songs, the riffs I mean. For for all the talk about his lead playing the rifts were insane. But the whole songs you know better than anybody you be the biggest virtual versus virtuous on the world. But if you don't have great songs around it, it doesn't it doesn't mean as much and the thing that was so special about that Van Halen to me was it was this amazing player but surrounded by and built around great songs to this day that is great as when I first heard him. One Eddie one, million percent one that that's what I'm saying the songs held up the guitar playing out of this world and original like on your thinking and the cradle sudden you all these whole things were happening. You know and a little bit in the vein of that and I'm saying this with all respect that Hendrix they opened up a world Jimmy page they opened up a world of being creative with that guitar and an Eddie and Dave and Michael Alex could it was a chemistry and Sammy I love Sammy. There was mystery they're great songs and Insan- insanely. Great guitarists. It was great. It was the perfect Combo. When was the first time? You saw van Halen live. Well. Are you ready for this story? The this? How make I? I will give you the true story ever. So I'm in the car. At the time I drive down to the spectrum and Philly with Ricky rocket. Right, we here's his girlfriend. I'm my girlfriend we drive all the way down. We had boughten you're ready for this. The show was sold out we bought or tickets to a horse race. We we didn't know you could get scammed I ricky will tell you the story verbatim. We searched the parking lot and the guy that worked vein and who I believe I stayed in contact with for years and years even after we finally broke. He said we were really bummed out. We couldn't get into the show and he saw us out there and realize we had been scammed and he goes either great tickets twelve horse. This is like. It was like a horse race that had happened like a month ago but it looked like a concert ticket 'cause they retyped the van Halen like physically over it and he gave us four incredible seats on the floor and we went in there and it we got in there just as a show started and it was a it again mind-blowing just when tour who was in Bradley What tour was you know what I'm GonNa go to say it was maybe. It wasn't diver done. It had to be fair warning I think was fair warning I wanted to say women and children I. But I don't think that was it. It was right after in that area right but I want to say maybe fair warning or diver down. That's an amazing story. You, that's an amazing story that you got that break though because I mean how many times I mean I know so many people that would go out and you scalped tickets out front and then you'd find out they were counterfeiter when he got to that turnstile that they wouldn't let you through all that. But you had tickets to a horse race and you're all amped up but what a break for somebody to bail you out like that man that's incredible. Saw I think and I say this he could feel the bummed out of my soul not only for the embarrassment in front of my then girlfriend. But also the ricky me staring at each other starving starving musicians wanting to see inhalant and this guy was scalping he was searching the parking lot. And I will eventually come back to you in a week or two with actual name and he worked for them forever and he was the guy that made sure they weren't this wasn't happening to people, but I had pre bought mine way back in Harrisburg and I looked down in there like it's everything's right except this was to a horse race. Every concert ticket it smelt like a concert ticket. In concert. Bread, did you ever meet him? I know you. There is a photo online I. Think you posted if you guys on a course or something? So I guess you had some direct interaction with them. Always always, and we had a couple of great charity golf events obviously backstage at concerts and but one of the best stories ever is is coming out of one of the golf charity events and you can't intrude Bret michaels fashion. My car didn't or I can't make this up I love the lights on and Eddie actually helped me get the car jumped I can't as was I'm sitting here it happened. That is amazing. Trump was making this up, but it is my life story. Even, comedy of errors that I have I managed to get through surf off. That is incredible. Incredible. So you had some experiences with did you know him well were you in touch with them or is it just sort of events that you ran into each other? It was events and again you know a great events more than an acquaintance but definitely was not an every day event but it great events and had we we saw each other and Houston and another gulp charity thing poison was touring. They were touring and we went down and had an amazing time and Michael Anthony and Sammy have ended up being really good friends from it and it was just a again I wanna say this and I know you have a lot of musicians and people don't WanNa talk about it but it's as I say this with they true. and sadness in my voice, he helped change my life. It was awesome. Yeah you got a favorite record. I do all of them every single one. My favorite is the first record. It is my that first album when I say this I took a beating Ford, I mean I got thrown against the lockers punched in the Gut because I borrowed what was probably one of the best guitar reps I'd ever heard and it was worth it. Wow, that's amazing. Bret michaels takes a beaten forgetting the first van Halen record. That is incredible. I don't know if I like that I don't know if that's more. Impressive or Eddie van Halen helping you jump, start your car either way those are great stories. Then we'll show it. It showed the caliber person was meaning we were and I would do the same for you or anybody but him coming out there and literally could have walked right by stopped help me get the car jumped and and it was a it was just a good day in life in one of those ones that I think people don't think that really happens but it did and it even made you like him, the music and the chemistry of everyone like I said Sam, he's been to my house many times Michael. I Tore David Lee Roth and skyscraper, but Eddie. Is Originality and his brother Aleksei they just amazing. Really, set a tone for a lot of people that wanted to be musicians. Have you think of all those folks today I was in touch with Sami Michael earlier today and and even Gary Sharon who you know is very broken up over this. You know if you forget about Gary and he was just a you know he was in there too. So you know it's a it's a rough day but I think everybody is trying to think of all these great stories and as I've been saying consistently Brad I mean look I've hung with you. We've been on the bus partying with you and whatever. I. Mean I know what Music Lover You are, and sadly some of the music we love. We were a little too young to experience maybe seeing Hendrix Zeppelin in their day or whatever. But the Nice thing here is as much as we. It sucks that we've lost this guy we can say because of that Mount Rushmore of all time greats he's on it. We can say we lived that one. We saw that one we knew that one and I think that's a really special thing. It is an I'm agreeing with you at thousand percent and I've got the horse tickets with Van, halen typed on it to prove it. Still happens the. I know I. I keep on the hoarder. So I know I got that somewhere all my memorabilia of music stuff that have changed my life I know I have those entrust me and a couple of weeks I will have the gentleman's name. That's that got us into van Halen he's sold the true bummed out and laughed at the tickets and gave sport tickets to go in That's a great story. Listen but I appreciate a few minutes and let's talk again under better circumstances. You're good the families well, the health is okay. Health is good families good. I wanted to say this to you stay healthy I. Need You my friend and to to Wolfgang to the Valerie to. Everybody out there my my deepest condolences. All the best bread stay in touch. Okay well. Thank you you too. Thanks to Brat. We will come back and welcome in Sebastian Bach on this week's trunk podcast. This is the Eddie Trunk podcast. Eddie Trunk back with you on the PODCAST, our second interview, this week is with Sebastian Bach he also wanted the first to reach out to me about the death of Eddie Van Halen wanted to share some thoughts as always Sebastian incredibly entertaining and. Here he is enjoy. Hey Buddy how you hanging in there? Hey. How's it going on? Eddie the Wish we could speak under pressure circumstances but you know Eddie wasn't just a hero two guitar players I've been listening. All Day yesterday to all the tributes from everybody and It. Always blows my mind when when you're one of your heroes dies that you have physical response like like a family member because Eddie van Halen. Feels, like a family member to to us all because of how much joy and how important he was to all of us in our lives and? and. One thing that I have not heard that I just wanted to add is is if people didn't. Weren't around when Van Halen. came out. And started like you and me were even though I was young I was into them from the very first album. one my date when my babysitter brought it over and I got to see them three times when I was a kid fair warning diver down nineteen eighty-four But the thing that I don't know if people realize now it van Halen. WAS A. Rallying cry even the words then Halo and me and my friends it just the words Van Halen. became like an adjective I. Remember I, went to all boys private school. We were on a canoeing trip. And we made a pact that if the boat capsized all all of my friends and me would yell at the top of our long was then hey. The water and we all said, yeah, we gotta do that. We got it. Well, that's. None of those new why now the funny thing is is that when I met dime bag as many Paul I told them that exact story we're talking about Van Halen. Dime bag in Vani looked at each other and said, are you kidding me? They told me that when they would go dirt biking or or do something crazy they would always look at each other and scream. Like like an adjective or verb because. Not only was Eddie's guitar playing like other worldly everything about the band was other worldly like from the from the notes of eruption. To, watching them onstage and Edwards songwriting. It became like like a rallying cry of everything. That was cool. Not just guitar playing just being cool then hey, like we'll just. What that meant? Exactly to that point, just the logo vh I mean. How many people just had vh on everything because it not exactly what you're saying. Are used to get liquid paper and and make the van Halen logo on the back of my Jean Jacket taking. That was cool. I mean it was a they were a cultural. Force not just a rock band. I like like it was more than that. It was a way of life. Inhale Eddie Van Halen. It's it's the thing that makes me so sad is when you lose a guy like Eddie van Halen and you lose a guy like meal peered. We are witnessing the end of musicianship. On that caliber and that level at the time is technology. I. Don't see how the world can have all this technology and then use an Edward Van Halen because I I mean maybe that is possible but I certainly don't feel it happening anytime soon. Because Edward Van, halen built his own technology built his own Arabs. He built his own guitars. Alex built his own drums. You know I mean, these guys didn't. Really, know do it yourself rockers van Halen and they need to own side I I mean I don't know. I don't know how to how to put it other than it's like a fantasy number. Dying like that's what it feels like not to insult my family members. And he's like like a part of our life you know. It's true. Even if even if we didn't know him personally really at all but to but but you felt that way as a fan and the the smile guitar playing the videos you just felt like one of the guys you know he's up there. Doing his thing and we're grateful for it Baz tell me about. you you. I guess was it on the ninety five sub human race toward with van Halen was skid row out on the balanced tore. Open the whole USA Balance Tour the first leg but first leg and I got to know Eddie my God to know Alex and. the first day of the tour Edward came into our dressing room we couldn't. Believe it and he was playing guitar the whole time. He's just hanging out and my son was very young at the time like six. And Eddie talked to my son parents about playing the drums and how cool would be if he played with his brother and and the ones that you know 'cause they all knew how much of a fan I was in. So back then before the Internet. We used to go to Japan where bootlegs were legal and I used to come home the Jersey with suitcases full of vintage van Halen like Japanese television shows and Amsterdam Holland like all over the world that nobody. At all including Eddie van Halen and I was like. Dude I've got you on. Japanese. TV and on the first Al to, and he's like get the fuck out of here. You do not until I. he said I WANNA see all of this. So. I made him. I went home and I made them copies I said, Edward. Van Halen, business, your life. These videos. And then he watched him and he came back and goes. That's incredible man like like and the cradle will rock with they wearing those big boots and and I don't feel any want. You just read this because Nah I can't be releasing that stuff because this is narrow Sammy. Right. And I said why not and goes you don't want any anybody else making all that money goes. Well, that's true. But. But you know 'cause I listened to your show all the time and as fans always wondered why they never put out. You know there's nothing on Youtube you have more you have more than what's actually come out. I mean I was in a studio in North Hollywood like a year and a half ago and a guy played me a van Halen Bach set of a ton of stuff that's never been released and he was like, yeah, I was commissioned to do this by Warner brothers and then when I did. It, they decided that you want to put it out. So I'm hoping look this is a tragedy that we're dealing with but I hope when the dust settles that. Maybe some of these things will the path will be cleared for it to come out because if you think about it and I know you're a big collector stuff, there's there's very little as far as extra stuff concerts. There's really nothing. I know and you know what's really I. got to open up for van Halen in Australia like like three or four years ago I and and the band was wealthy and by the stroke of the war Jesus I got to sit next to David Lee Roth in first class from Australia to America can you imagine And we were both. So we we we spent. Hours mandate drinking, copy laughing, and talking at the top of our lungs we got told to be quiet a million times. Dave's latter than me, which is nuts. So I said to him, I go he was reading. Tom. Clancy book, which was kind of NEAT. But I set 'cause this is right when the eagles that I'm sure you've seen the history of the eagles documentary right. Yeah so do you see that? Yes. Yeah. Well, it's So in depth and I said they WANNA want you wh- magin how cool would be then Halen made their own documentary like the Eagles did of that be tale with all that footage and he he seems like it'll be a cool idea. But you know now as Edward Gone How's that even possible? You know like I mean it's just he died not young man like really it's I mean they could do it was their footage but. All the word at the age of sixty vibe. Yeah it's crazy because I've made this point a lot in the last twenty, five years we've gotten very little. We're lucky. We got so much at the front end because the back end there really is not that much. Let me ask you this because I'm asking everybody this Sebastian it it always leads interesting stories. When was the first time? You heard van Halen like friend play the record you heard it on the radio like what was the first thing you heard? Paint the picture for you. My baby sitter brought it over. But she was babysitting like twelve or eleven. Maybe eleven and No I I do something like that and she put it on it and I was a cheap trick fanatic because that's right when Buddha Khan came out and all that stuff and I want you to want me and I had never heard of inhaling and I see I looked at the color when she dropped the needle to me, they sounded like if cheap trick where the devil. Were They were so rude and dirty and mean, and then eruption came on. And nobody in the world had ever heard anything like eruption. Ever and it's and I. It's like. Is that a guitar? Harpsichord is that is that a synthesizer like what? Nobody had ever heard anything like that, but combined with the virtuosity of Edward M, a humor of all of them, Dave and all in were so funny they were so much on. That's the thing about van Halen as I said before it was like an adjective like then hailing when you scream the words van Halen everybody kind of knew what that meant everybody put their fist up in the air. We're GONNA kick some ass we are GonNa have the best time van. Halen. Like that's The excitement of it they were just yeah. It's same Cardi enemy and screens the. Exciting party I mean, even the environment I remember walking through the parking lots going into the arenas for the shows I mean those are the biggest Marty's you ever saw. This crazy. The head guys where we're going, I just want to ask you. About van Halen. That I've noticed over the years and talking to people, is there a distinctly American thing like they're they are by far the biggest in America a lot of places outside of America didn't translate as much. So so you growing up in Canada it sounds like it definitely hit there as well. Absolutely, massive in Toronto. Montreal they were we all worshiped van Halen to the point where. When the diver down to or was on, I was at a private boys school called Wakefield Coach School and my dad took me and my buddy George from Canada he drove us all the way to Syracuse over the border. When we turned into Syracuse it's just what you said. They played that carrier dome. And the whole town. was dressed up like van Halen some guys look like day with a bandannas below the knees and some guys look like Eddie with the stripes and everything making their own designs. But the whole town it was like a kiss show there was just dies like trying to look like Van Halen you know this is me you're talking to do I ended up a career kinda looking. But you know I've seen pictures of me and Dave literally like I I couldn't tell if it was near him like there's a couple of pictures like that. But but I just as I said the if people don't understand it was more than a band. It was like a lifestyle. It was a way of life that Eddie Van Halen. To America and the world. like they were huge in Japan. You know I mean and they and South America, they were one of the first bands to play like Queen was the first I think. But then van Halen played an eighty three. women and children first tour. I. Believe One of those. And You know I mean, Eddie was an inventor and I just remember being on tour with him and and and hanging alison he was just a great guy and and You know there was a little talk of me. Maybe joining the band around the Gary Sharon Time Doc mcghee had me up at the office and Ray Daniels. Was managing them at the time and Ray doc we're talking but they didn't want any the smoke weed. All that funny because I was smoking with Ray Daniels I go so you. Can't what the? Thing or a bad halen smoke pot what That's where I learned. How to smoke pot. Thanks a lot van Halen. But, that was a discussion I rehearsed you never rehearsed with them. Did you did you did you did you? Know no no but I but I was summoned into Doc's office in Ray? That was at the time they were looking for a singer but I didn't I didn't get the addition. I don't think doc was into me leaving skid row either there was something about that run. A week or two. But. This is a sad day man and it really blows my mind that we lost meal peered and Edward Van Halen in the same year. I. Know Maybe People Think Oh, I. think that's SONESTA I. You me. In High School. Knew that we they. Neil would die in the year twenty, twenty both of them to me that's just really like no. Good this year suck. Any harder. I don't think it could or no I I agree with you on that man I really do well listen. But I, got a ton of people here and I appreciate you taking some time to call in and I know you're listening. You know you're you're always welcome and thank you for waking up early and and being on I. appreciate it I really do. We, appreciate the show Dude, and these horrible times when I listen to your show I'm thinking I'm speaking for all the Rock fans you Kinda like remind us of who we are in this whole year listening to your shows like Oh. Yeah. We used to have a great time man. And I'll look forward to doing that again as soon as possible. Yeah. Man Why appreciate that I hear that from a lot of people and it means a lot. I try to create that diversion at least for a couple of hours a day. So I appreciate you saying that stay in touch men and best to the family and hanging there. Okay. Buddy van Halen. Is that's a great point. Sebastian makes it really as. Well, thanks to Baz thanks to Bret Michaels earlier thought it'd be a little bit interesting indifferent to bring you a couple of lead singers heavily impacted by the death of Eddie Van Halen as I mentioned the last week and a half I've been doing nonstop van Halen tributes so many artists on if you listen to me daily on Sirius Xm One oh, six volume. You've heard the whole picture here. On, the PODCAST, a little taste of just a couple of the interviews that joined us talking about Eddie, Van Halen. Maybe we'll do more on this next. Thursday. I'll see what happens a lot of other stuff to pull from, and of course, a lot of other things going on as well WANNA. Thank as always goodies and the great new product goodies hangover for sponsoring the podcast powerful pain reliever boosting. Ingredient you can get fast pain relief and a boost of alertness to help battle the groggy tired feeling that comes with the hangover. Be sure to check out goodies hangover hangover relief at the speed of powder available at Walmart dollar, General Amazon, and other fine retailers. More Info at goody's powder dot com. My thanks to Katie Rosaria she of course, is the producer of the trunk podcast again, the interviews. You heard came from my daily radio show trunk nation on Sirius Xm, one? 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The Grunge: Pearl Jam, Mad Season, Soundgarden - Self Pollution Radio

"Grunge became a now. It seemed of ways. Engine hold a bunch of bands the way somebody decided to call it grunge. Grimes ball the flannel shirt. Oh welcome to the doug grunge. This is the podcast exploring sex drugs and rock and roll. I'm going to be your host today. My name is joseph rose And i'm andy warren and warren. Who are you. What are you doing here. Arrest in peace. Jerry would Something terrible happen to a our friend. Jerry would yeah jeremy. Sorry jeremy jerry would yeah. Yeah little jar larger. Yeah it was just a bad scene. He had blood in the stool. So i'm i'm feeling it guys know jerry. You're there's no jerry. I'm sorry Yeah i guess we're going to have to address the little elephant in the room. I guess i i'm probably don't look little. So but yes you're not the elephant. You're the rhinoceros. So little jerry we talk to and about jerry on the podcast all the time you know you guys hear what goes on you guys know that jerry's got a whole situation and everything he's got a he's got a certain life that he's in and as i always point out to jerry deep down. This makes him a very unsatisfied. An unhappy man is a happy lifestyle. I mean you know from the outside one might think you'd think you know he's alive. He's a he's he lives a life of privilege he's employed. He's got a family. Scott everything you can really want. He's got beer and we'd music he's He's world famous. Podcast her yes you know. He's got everything to podcasts. Not unlike so many men that we talk about on this show. You know all these guys that have it all. You know what i mean. They've they've even got the riches they they have the beautiful family the the career all of that and they've got riches. Jerry didn't turn to heroin. But then we get guys like chris cornell you know he's got it all he's beautiful talented beyond your wildest dreams beautiful family that loves him children and you know it's got all the money you could want really and there he goes you know deep inside there was something and It's it's a tragedy and so here we are with mister jerry and You know we've we've documented jerry struggles with smoking and things like that and i've accused of many times of being an alcoholic and that he should stop drinking because it's bad for him and Beer jerry rears its head and causes problems so anyway guys what i think happened. Andy maybe you haven't some insight into this that i may not. I think jerry worked. He had a work day. It was an average actually was a better than average workday. He good work day. He sold at least three cars and he. He did well financially. I talked to him about it but yet for whatever reason he did not go home after work he went somewhere else. He went out to a. I think it was a buffalo wild wings or a place like that because he wanted to consume alcohol alone and have wings. So that's what he did. He he went from a long day of work. He needed that place where he would find solace and he went there to the buffalo wild wings and he had wings and he had some booze and i think maybe on top of that he hadn't really eaten before that throughout the day. I think you mentioned. He didn't get a chance to eat during the day and so he got a little something to eat. He hit the booze perhaps quite heavily as he's known to do and then he got home and did whatever at home and went to bed and then when he woke up. Some point. the mil the night andy I believe e probably blake woke up somewhere. We're talking three to five. Am i think it was he. was awaken by some sensation. Some some feeling about him. That was not comfortable. probably shouldn't blood yeah And so I don't know perhaps with his wife. I don't know maybe on his own. He made his way to the emergency room at the hospital. They got him in there and In so many words said jair. You're dehydrated sir. You're dehydrated you done. Drank yourself senseless and you haven't hydrated yourself properly your to physically small to be acting this way and And then they decided to keep him overnight. You know why andy. They made the call to keep him overnight. No no i do. I didn't know that they were keeping them overnight. Now yes saudis finishing some fluids not. He's he's being kept overnight and the reason why is because they want money. That's the that's the only reason. Yeah there's only one reason there's no secondary reason. Jerry is not going to die his life while endanger due to his behavior. It's not in grave danger at this moment. Jerry is not going to die from his current condition today. he's going to be fine. He has no broken bones. He's got no you know significant issues. But he's going to be kept overnight with a you know they're going to give him some fluids his baba yeah hirschbeck and Enough that and i'll talk to jerry probably later or tomorrow and i'll be right back to is jerry nece. Oh yeah no. He's he's again he's fine he's just shouldn't blunt yeah. Yeah and so. It's a good thing. Got him that day. Possibly because at this point he's going to be glad he hasn't it. You know andy. how are you sir. I'm great man. Yeah guys if you don't know this is. Andy's made a brief obscure appearance. Sort of on a version of the show. Once before we did a little live thing online wants andy was there and i love this man andy. He's amongst the greatest people in the world in my world. all right. yeah. I love you. Thanks man We've been friends since we were children. Young teenagers you know too. Many a show yeah. Many adventure hung out tons of times For years and years. I love this man. I love his woman. I love your cute little child. You know she is. Yeah so this. Is andy's podcast anytime anytime he wanted to be. You're always welcome here. I know this isn't your thing. And he's not one to look for the spotlight. The way ego maniacs like jerry. Are you know you're not that kind of do know this is terrifying to me. That's all right. There's no camera we're just that's just the sound of our voices in a room chatting like men. This is what we generally do without the recording. We sit around and eat. I share a love for pearl jam and plenty of other music. We've gone too many a pearl. Jam show over the years and talked about many a pearl jam album. I'm sure needed did them. You know discuss bathroom songs. Which songs do you go to the bathroom. Yeah many years ago. I've told the tale and mentioned it referenced. It a couple of times on this podcast that time back in nineteen ninety six when i went crazy and ran away to salt lake city. Utah for a pretty girl. That i found on. Aol in nineteen ninety six early internet. It was a real bitch to us. But still i managed to find a beautiful young girl who wanted to hang out with me. The problem is i was a teenager and she lived in salt lake city. I live near philadelphia and it was a long way and so the only person in the whole universe that knew about this was andy. I went to this man and confidence. I said look. I've gone crazy. I'm running away andy. I need. I need you to let me state your house. And then i'm i'm out of here me up. And he did. He helped me and inevitably when the time comes that. I do need to hide a body. Andy knows that he's getting that call. I'm just saying you know you're getting that call. And i appreciate you for it and i appreciate you stepping up to do this for being tonight when i've been abandoned by selfish jerry and I love you. Thanks man tonight guys. We're going to talk about self pollution. Radio andy what do you remember about this. This means something you right. Oh hell yeah finding out like little things Win vitality was gonna hit There was little whisperings along the way and I think radio stations local Across the great united states that we live in. Were discussing this and talking about how ed and the and the group we're going to set up this radio station. This pirate radio station you know and in takeover and they you know each different radio station did a different way. Yeah the guys. Ed got some broadcast trucks out to a house. Well let me let me. I have some official version of this. Let's talk about it on. It happened on january. Eighth nineteen ninety-five the broadcast that we're going to describe to. You was four and a half hours long and featured live sets from pearl jam soundgarden mud honey the fast backs and mad season. A spoken word piece. From nevada's chris nova celik and tracks from an ex nirvana drummer. Dave girls upcoming solo. Which is how it was being credited at the time many impromptu interviews and much more so ed took it upon himself to get some broadcast trucks over to a house that he owned in seattle and they put this broadcast out there and radio stations around the country. Were free to rebroadcast. It you know in real time if they wanted to and many of them did in major markets radio stations went ahead and pipe. This broadcast out to all of us. And i don't know about you andy but that night. I sat there with my cassette recording. The whole thing one tape would fill up on hurry up and turn it around and keep recording and i listened to that shit all through the night. Oh yeah you did the same damn damn straight ahead. The dual tape decks was able to like i had one ready to go and then flip and switch and i still actually have those crazy ass. Might as well. I think i might as well when we moved. That was one of the things i remember. I'm like how keeping the like it's just cool which it's so ridiculous. We don't need to have them. We're never going to them. We can download this thing off the internet but there we are a god damned player. But i'm like yeah. This is awesome. Like it's it's that are just remember staying up late and you know listen to this thing and that was actually the first time. I think i heard like daniel. Johnson's walking the cow. That was one of the things that they played the ed played. Mike watt was on there. I remember and that was during the time When like ed also did that appearance on mike watt's album. Yeah hovercraft best band at the time there like all this neat little all kind of inside baseball with pearl jam yet just lost my shit on it. Because i was. I was approaching. Pearl jam nerds. We were having in is. Oh yeah that was. That was literally the shit. Yeah let's see what else it says here. The session also featured new drummer. Jack irons original drummer for the red hot chili peppers. He had just joined pearl jam. Recently he was playing live with the band for the first time. At on this broadcast the venue as i said earlier was a live music for the live. Music was a house in seattle. Owned by eddie vetter which was used for rehearsals by both pearl jam and other bands and musicians. So as i said this thing was like four and a half hours long and it was a rambling mess okay. It was a rambling mess. Ed was the host and he came on right at the beginning. And we'll hear ed in just a moment. The whole thing began by ed playing the track. I'd avenida from the recently released by technology at that time. And then he just kinda gave us a little intro and he talked for a bit and he'd have little guess pop in throughout the night. Do little interviews to have people make some phone calls. i remember. He called d. from l. seven. She was in town and meet. He called her up and many other people and so we had a little set. So okay i guess i should mention what we're going to cover. Obviously we're not doing the fucking four and a half hour broadcast but we've got a good bit. We've got a little set by pearl jam. They did a few songs. And then we've got a couple tracks from mad season and then we've got a few weird tracks from soundgarden who were in the house that night. And then we've got a little closing set again by pearl. Jam came back for a little second set So let's just get it fired up. We've got eddie doing some idea of anita chatting. Let's go Self pollution air pollution noise pollution pre pollution posts pollution. Face pollution hair pollution solution pollution. I don't think so not enough solutions to our many complex dilemmas. these days We've got proven answers to any of the issues. We might Bring up tonight but perhaps you can take them home and sort out. Think about how you feel. Perhaps the beginning of change things right. I'm not gonna play. I just figured. I'd let a little bit role so you guys get if you've never heard this before you get a flavor. What happens when ed becomes your radio. Host yes well We've noticed that our society here in america's opening up their homes to some folks who are in flow around this broadcast with input and does into the toots embraced and we're seeing blatantness. Truth treated like the gospel and a little bit here Far from equal time. Maybe to remind you of you out there that you are not alone in your opposition and that you are not in the minority when you vote for change Now perhaps the silent majority has going to have to make some noise I've never claimed to be a socio-political expert I guess. I feel compelled to speak out on back. That will sell shoes for no other than the fact that i've twentieth anniversary. And what's going on timely. Yeah what's going on now. So let's get into some of these jams. They kick off their set with spin. The black circle a jangling sound fucking broadcast. You know everything was just sort of janke but it was cold. It was cold as fuck treatment. You can hear it. They're treated literally. It's jam session like now. it is a rehearsal. They're like shitty practice in a house. The live room was in the front bedroom. Yes like what it was. Dan says raw of fucking resorting and she could. Yeah i'm what's that all to the record. This is going to be much quieter less. Chatty podcast for you guys. Sorry i'm just saying. I know i don't have any enemy yellow to andy about give me time time if it read side. When it's time he got his government. You're fuck up his joy right now. I don't even want to wait. You need anything. You need a snack. And i have a little pumpkin bar right here. You're welcome to it. Good pitchy on. That said just remember like this was released brought before obviously cd vinyl for this was released by holiday was out really. Yeah it was out at this point. Yeah i was get screwed up on most of what they play here from biology. Yeah yeah they play a couple of older ones only a couple of hold. That's only towards the end to. It's like fortunately for answers. Yeah a lot of biology all right going into satan's bed which actually got more creation for then just remember when i initially heard this from that chicago soldier field thing that was going around. Oh really that was the very first time like that. That whole deal. That was released. Little previews songs sat word to be on that album. Yeah what is your favorite pearl jam. App andy. i know. We've talked about this. But what what is your. What's your feeling. It's it's tough because you don't have one off the top that you know is like usually your favorite. Because it's for me. They're like arguable. Because he going to see all those shows right so each album kind to me is tied to like a live show of ngos experiences. Play a deep deep favorability code. Yeah like no code was was that was jets where we started saying. Yeah we really like fight trying to find rides. Yeah what a bunch of shit where he's also one of the many adventures with jammed back in the day. But like i also at the same time love you'll because then i went to seattle to see i got to meet them like that to me was by all these. That's a favorite. But like i don't know like album is just taller. Like me of there would have to sit down hard and go through that list. You did like him. Really crunched down on his. I don't think i've ever talked in detail about that. Pearl jam ranking situation. That i went through. And i might even do it again. I might do it again. It's in compare my numbers. It's tough 'cause to me too. That i know my favorite. Yeah that's like more of a technical. What are the best pearl jam albums. But i know my favorites are biology and no code. Pretty sure i don't know for me would be that it might be that by towel g no code by yield in there yet again. That could just be tied to just do love you. That whole thing do love it. All right we're going into quarter roy next and man. There's a great video. There's video of a lot of this stuff. I think But there's a great one that i saw of quarter roy this performance of it in the house that night. There's video of it and man. It was pretty rad. Yeah pulsar fucking love. This jam somalia this off. I don't know this was kind of like this. Whole like ten me miss hold the always saul was just. Take those chances while you can kind of a deal l. Everybody knows those. You know that that pearl jam story. And you know he he shoe horns or throws in a few of his own like a lotta his personal detail. What made him out of a thing. But i take this immortality as well. No yeah love hearing this. Actually this might be one of my favorite songs in the world. Again she's assist is a good saw every time i hear it. I'm like fuck. This is a good song. You know it's so good. Look you can almost get turned off to just like the great songs that you've heard him anytime but this one no like it doesn't get old. This always fucking legit. These are these are some songs that you're like you expect to hear them. You know what i mean. You expect to hear them in concert. And then there's lesser for me personally. Lesser songs like daughter. I heard it so many times. I said that like fast break. Yeah i don't need. I don't need pearl jam to play even flow link. I don't need them to play. Well you needed them for that one show where they did ten needed. Yes need hell. Yes you do you even text insurance tax. Definitely need the bright. I do need them to slow down when they play like guys. Well we played at a reasonable tampa just once. I think there are times again. The treaties in hannibal in every sense of the word. Love that break. So i think hold on listen to this point out. I want to hear this. I love this dude. Got them high little motherfuckers jan and a front bedroom fucking house love it love it and i loved it then. I love it all these years later. What a moment. This is a great fucking important document in the history of this band. I really think it is. This is a great thing that they did. It's so cool that we have this. Oh yeah damn it so cool and this is like a thing that i don't know this doesn't really exist anymore. No because you're going to get a serious live session. Yeah you're going to get a livestream and hannity instantly like recorded for all time like this was a thing. We got over the fucking airwaves through an antenna into our cassette recorder. If we were lucky and stayed up late like we had to stay up late or is or it was gone forever. Maybe we didn't know you know it was wild. It was wild. And what a surprise it just kept. All that like kept that grime. Rea- you know what he kept all that and for dudes like us who at that time. We're already way into fucking pearl jam. We love pearl jam with love any better. We love this shit and now like what sued edge just taken over the radio. They're going to do whatever they want. This is crazy. Employees live in the house. What i got a record it get my tape. Where's my blind date. Bigotry had plenty jazz. Yeah what if they went. Whoa all night long. I need like one hundred blank tapes. It was ridiculous and so fun. The fact that i'm thinking about it as like as a kid your understanding of the money that it actually took for radio stations to say no. We're not gonna buy something on airtime. It's your time now. I'd be like okay for you coming up you know it's it's all meditated pre regurgitated or shit like for some of these bands. And then there's wait who were shit now in a sense would like the whole covert relief thing that posts more did for nevada where you turn me a new one. I did nine. I heard that another set. Yeah yeah he did a whole set. I guess of post malone songs. I don't know. I don't watch any of that shit but then out of nowhere. He did rooster and war. Pigs did great on both. They're both great slash randomly. Was there for war pigs slash join. He had chad smith playing drums. It was awesome like he. He held them. He fucking nailed them like they were really good. It's so weird. It's so weird that he's randomly really fucking good at doing this. And that's not what he does at all couldn't be more different. He's a he's yes yeah and he's really good at it. You really weird. But i i support it anytime he wants to do this. I'm there on this very thing and we chatted about on this very worried on this when this originally came out. Yeah you know and started breaking stones balls about like what stone stone in you know one of the trucks and literally playing hip hop yet like i think it was like timberland a new timber magoo song like from back in the day. I'm like that was one of the things. I don't think that he's really. I don't think they're really into i for you. I love is jam. I love that outfit. Bend by chance. What theft i guess. They didn't want to chance bugs. Can spot get this right up. Close just keeping a little bit further. Wanna miss a word. The mike legacies. Jerry's maybe i'll died. You think jerry's gonna die. No but my mom. I'm more or less worried that he's in the hospital because dehydrated pinot that you can fix yourself that way as unless serious rail but fucking kobe man nano gray like i was trying to tell him like i m just that i'm like first of all we know there's nothin' fucking wrong with you your fucking fine. You know what i mean. You're just need some pedialyte. And he's literally staying in the place. Where the most. Germs and sick people are like like maybe take a fucking emergency room bed right now in the middle of the fucking surging pandemic like come home and drink your fucking fluids to. Yeah if you're going to do fluids and get an ivy some vitamin c. In that shit man. Yes but hey i feel i feel bad for him when i do rant scheme of things i look. I don't i don't want the guy to be feeling shitty in a hospital somewhere certainly not. I want to be feeling great being over here. You know de hanging out. Whatever you know what i want. Ball brad I wonder i wonder if it would almost be better for them in the long run if a little something was wrong with him just enough not one of you know drop dead or anything yet but a little something wrong with him enough to give a little scare like yo dude like maybe clean up your act a little bit son. That's what if and i love him. He does work crazy weird schedule he does. His job is also terrible for him. Just like it really. It's bad for him. You know not just a job. I mean you know that job that he has is not good for them as amusing as it is. Sometimes it's not good for him if he wasn't good at it. Yeah i guess he he does pretty good solid data man. Yeah i don't think he you know. I don't think it makes them feel good. No but i mean that's it all you know that's why i chose perfect chosen profession where i could just i could just fuck right off. You know what i mean like same. It's i mean. Well you're the freeze. Data couple podcast. The free is that of all. But i chose a profession that i could just be like. No that's good. You like you like what you do right. Yeah because any job comes with a pain in the ass. But you'd like what you do. Yeah there's no. I won't tell this to everybody that i work with in there You i like it because it does kinda keep going check your should i do right so it's good. I just as long as i don't bring that shit to the table. I'm going into the fantastic immortality. So good one. That's one of my favorites too and just on that album. Do you got immortality and quarter roy. Food you man that automatically makes it a great album. The love tremor. Christ love remember last exit. I fucking low. Oh my god that. I'm so great. So yeah. I don't know i hope i hope jerry's all right. I hope you just get shit together. Fucking i love that little man and i hope he's gets it together but it's something i could happen to my fed s out of nowhere. You know anybody really. I mean that you know. I love that little man. Let's say little about all what's that well low. We'll general al's so near a gov fear already so good at the shows and the best feeling again. I think all the same said like you missed going to live show. Oh yeah because you're actually missing that electrcity that you feel in your arms. I love hearing this live at their shows and people singing along get who's bumps. The man swept through the crowds he said. How's your headphone everything right. Yeah that's the problem like. I gotta remember home otherwise. Sit here and zone the hell out wanted. Just chill and like listen to it but if you one eight now you got it now. I'm here awesome and even worse patriotic. Now this is the real deal. Podcast out to everybody. Okay starring star now. I probably just change your whole life. The way i changed jerry's so they're gonna find me on facebook and shit on me. I appreciate it. That's our dude. You ever wanna fucking get endless hate mail and have people like get crazy mad at you all the time. Start a group of fucking sameness in delaware. Shelly hat works out for your inbox. Oh my gosh. If you really want people to hate you start a cold now. Starting what happened You have no idea yet. Fucking satanic drama have to contend with. You love the mccaslin. Say that thank you. I'm not you know. I have So hail satan podcast dot com. Hail satan podcast dot com. So i don't feel with it but at the same time it's interesting to listen to you for everybody. You know jamie show. It's twenty opposite of the growth also stopped by the grunge. Podcast dot com if you want but whatever the patriot on but subscribed to patriot. And if you hit this. I think Maybe maybe if a couple thousand people would join the patriot. I wouldn't be stressing so hard over trying to fix my kids fucking room like i am right now you do it. Twitch channel and then people can donate jerry. Try that out. There's ways to do it jerry. The other way. Yes other one with With phil yeah. That's a disgrace. Well he's trying to figure it out. Guess he's got some free time on his hands tonight while we're here working. Oh shit. what a piece. Interviewing people in the hobby probably. That's probably didn't even go to the hospital motherfuckers. Busy with other podcasts. It's is oh shit. I'm in the hospital podcast. Ten and imagine the excuse. He came up with I'm just i just. I'm a grown man and i i drank and now i'm in the hospital. Okay jerry fifty beta. But i think he told them what happened. Yeah just it is ridiculous shit though like this is only justified if like something horrendous is wrong with him like like he needs to like complete heart failure tonight for this to even be remotely fucking worth it like and my feeling is that. Nothing's going to be wrong with them. Like i told him tonight. I'm like i bet you anything like. Here's the exact prognosis like you're gonna be just the same when you leave that place as you right now. All tests will be negative. But you gotta shit mad season guys were switching over. That was the end of pearl jam's first set mad season. Come in here with lifeless dead lane and the boys. How bad is it to just imagine the scene in that house that night. All these dudes just hang in jam in fucking you know so awesome. Man says another absolutely love this i like. Oh yeah i. There's actually a bunch of good info about these guys in mark yards book. Everybody loves our town. Oh yeah fucking mark arm. Yeah you know what i was just listening to. I'd just finally got the digital version of the mother. Love bone box set. What is it called on earth as it is. i think and it's rad. Like i have the vinyl version of it but the digital version of it has stuff that isn't on Yeah there's a whole disk there's a couple of there's a whole bunch of besides and just demos and stuff that had been on anything else really and it's really cool like it's kind like a whole separate shitty. Mother love bone apple but by shitty. I just mean you know it's like demos and like earlier stuff but like it's still like it's cool. I wish i wish so badly. They were all like polished recordings the way we have of their album but still cool real cool. I'm hearing some of a lot of the stuff. For the first time i met every time i start thinking about love bone or listening. I like almost reminded that i really loved that band. Like they are way up there for me. it's just so sad that they have such a small output. You know we only have this little bit. That's why i'm so pumped to get this extra stuff now. Listen to that. i hadn't heard yet but man. I love that band so much. I wish i wish i could have more them. But alas it's that appreciation for what it was because again if they were still there. I would that if that would have been a da ban. Wouldn't have stayed together anyway. That being would have also had a negative impact on stoning jeff. Jeff would've left that band. I think jeff not going to hang out. A mother love bone all that much longer. Bye-bye was mike mccready see. He wasn't on the fifth master. Now now. Mike is not a riff master. He's not about the riff. He's about the fucking freak out like like mccready slash de rippin. The solos like amandas asked in the moment. Yeah improv and just like pretty solis. But that's different from what i would put in the rift master general. You know somebody like dime. I owe me those guys. You know all dime without tom morello all tommaso again or the dj love. Mike macree man. You can get a better fucking lead guitarist really than that. Man rock band. If i was at nutty kid like way back in the day. I probably put any got heavy into like learning how to play. And you know i i would have been one of those kids with a huge poster of and learning how to play like the migrate. Oh yeah i mean. He had those posters up of stevie. Ray vaughan and and from cheap trick can yeah. Yeah jimi hendrix. Keep it in the seventies more mad season going into. I don't know anything. These are the only two songs they did. And i like. How ralph that came off right in the beginning sounds changli as fuck kinda dig it It's just crazy 'cause in on it. It almost comes off like you're watching a band play. Yeah yeah you know you're interfering it yet but hearing it. It's just like that. It's cool to hear it in headphones. Even you know it's nice. But i mean it be causes that little grimy and jackie. It's literally like you. You went to a high school. Watch buddy's band play and some idiots on the mixer they just happen to be really good really good song palate but it's the dude and there's a couple of pieces in here where it's not blended to well. This is not all shiny. We're used to it all right. I i appreciate. I mean not even as slick as it would have been at a normal live show. Yeah this is a shrimp down hugging quota. Like you say like if you were just at a friend's little show or rehearsal or something like applying through the pa and it just is what it is you know like you appreciate it for what it is. They don't have the most legit sound system or anything happening here. Lanes vocal is pretty fucking bone-dry. Nobody's really understanding how to blend at locked south. Mike fucking cuts the rope God damnit andy. I just ran out of cherry. Drink here sambi upping cherry by drank. Malibu damage too early to run out. I'll know what am i gonna do. I have a water same. Need my cherry need it. I'm not getting me collins. And we don't wanna end up. Like poor little jared fucking pedialyte. Iv and fucking pandemic hospital taking up a bed soon as he hears this. I expect him to murder me or why to hear. Be like man you guys. You should be thankful for you. Because otherwise he'd be here by myself just having to talk and i would have found plenty to talk about mike. Mccready love that man. He always become the star of the show. He does stolen sorry. Meaning a gummy. That was it for mad. Season coming up while soundgarden with a little said very weird. This is a song called blind dogs. This was from what soundtrack the fuck was. That movie was at the basketball diaries. Yeah yeah think so could be wrong. Don't care don't ask me. They did a little set. They do this. Don't like some old ones. And then they do this. They do this one. They do a weirdo version of fell on black days totally unrecognizable version. And then they do to songs that apple time had not been released yet and that was on on down on the upside To really is pretty cool. Too a I heard this forever. I like the assad like man. Chris cornell was fucking special. Dude man prayed base. He is scary. That's why i don't know it's even in that same vein like alison chains in that fact right like they're scary and what they put into it. All that weirdness darkness that's put into these. Things makes them irreplaceable. And somebody were to even do a song like watching those videos from you know. They the founders award. Oh yeah yeah those things you just realize. Even just watching like him file do his thing and then doing that. Set with New dragons with tad right. Yeah tad guarded yes. Satellite documentary has him perfect on a lot like crazy. But little things like this. Make him this. You know like we were saying about how raw it was with mad season. All like it's the same with everybody like we're all as you could ever hear soundgarden and like they're also came also. What unique fucking band. What are unique can voice just got all lucky to have known of them lucky to have seen them live time you know and lucky to have like just even the ability like that's where i love you know libya like music and like it's new to her now it's all to us and then having her one got just play her soundgarden so much and we've already done that. Here's a a weirdo version of fell on black days. After like live through your kid a little bit. Maybe like darwin's development has been so unusual for you know basically his whole life you know and there's you know there's you can't get back the earlier ages. Obviously you know what i mean. And so because his development was so weird there's almost like milestones in phases of things that just never existed. And it's like. I missed out on that shit you know and so i needed like do stuff with your kid. I'm just gonna do with your kid of his gate. Your daughter like make her listen to some shit. Or i don't know i'm gonna have to give her some shit. I'm literally i'll be working. She slides down there. I might just come over sometimes hanging out with kid. You just do what you want. I'm just gonna like i'll look after. I'll give her a little snack. Whatever she needs. And i'm just going to hang out with her and talk to her about pearl jam and like important shift under really cause. I know you guys love music. And you've got your own shit. But like i need her to get black sabbath from me like she's not going to get away from you. Well you're gonna play. Do sabbath all of it. i'm gonna give you have a player player. All ozzy sabbath. I as everybody knows. I am very pro. Do dio era sabbath very much but that is not take away from osceola. I fucking sit here and cry listening to ozzy era seven. I love it. I love it. Don't get you know. Don't concern because i love deal. I'm not shitting on ozzy. You know I love that sabbath. Like nobody's business. I love it so yeah she needs to have it. All we'll see has like guitar and stuff. But i live. I'm looking for their troll drums. She loves trolls. Old music tour one. That's and like that was so all the songs off of that occur power. She loves hard. Now nice yeah. Yeah yeah so. I was like getting her into that player. The video of pandera domination in at that airfield at the monsters of rock that is the greatest video in the world. That's my favorite live performance of anyone. Ever it's so crazy. I love that video a sound so good and the crowd is so wild. The whole video is just insane. I actually while. Listen to this fucking. What is this version of fellow black days. It's crazy. Wow weird rife this. Like a c- tape that day had waiting in the wings. I'm sure the there's probably information out there. I didn't really dig into it like why. Why this what is this version him. And this is you know. Nineteen ninety-five superunknown is an al. But not all that long like it's not like it's a ten year old album. This is like their newest album fairly new. You know it's kind of like those that wasn't even out for a year yet. Geez pearl jam had the The version of velour lord like a year or so afterwards or corduroy but they called it the lord rise punked albert remember for a long while they had that weird version of jeremy they would do. They would do an alternate version. Jeremy because they were probably so sick of jeremy. This was like you know we say being new. They probably had like see. Take a so here. We go with probably a debut of kyle petty son of richard from the forthcoming at the time. Down on the upside. I love down on the upside so much to damn it so good or wait. Wait what did i say. This song is all down on the upside right time. You're thinking ty cobb or right pile petty son. Richard was released on Songs from the super unknown or alive in the super bowl. They had these two like weird like record label. Epa that were based on the same day in different formats songs from the super food and alive in the super unknown which was like a cd rom and i believe kyle. Petty son of richard was on one of those probably songs from the super unknown. I never had like the green. I think there was like a greenish kind of deal. I that yeah. And so then after this they played no attention which was on dental the upside. But this is fucking random obscure beside that. They were bland like they. Don't show up in play outshined or spoon man or black hole sun wheel which that would have been even like slaves and bulldozers or something you might expect them to do that would have been great to hear cop psycho. Let's fucking river. Think pearl jam. Fostering this kind of atmosphere for this thing and just kind of hodgepodge gave these artists of lot more freedom. And that's like what you're getting on this now from more now and everything is just down raw script like food again and missiles a collection of all the cool kids yet. This was that scene in the out. Shell no everybody was. They're doing their thing. And soundgarden are the coolest the kids because they're fucking old. They're legit lose their like bite into the route they have records out man. Y'all started coming around soundgarden already been deep in it. Yeah you know. And cornell's the man does. He's the fucking man. Oh yeah announced. Nineteen ninety five. This is opposed to the black hole. Sun you know. They're high on the hog men dirty and they just come in and just get weird with cornell in the front bedroom iran. I would love to know like if they were neighbors on that street. That just going luckiest neighbors ever. Oh yeah there were probably used to. But you know there's like one person you'd never had experience that bullshit yup and then just was there recently bought a house and had no fucking clue another satellite trucks outside the fun and then there's the brand new neighbor that's way too happy and taking pictures and because of the new the sign of the time. It's not with a phone coming up now with no attention last soundgarden jam of the evening coffee the kitchen. Sorry apologizing shouldn't the bathtub for corey. Cory look it up but what are you doing now about corey. The damn our attention reports walls the wacky rift. I just think the whole time on this bench shepherd baio bench. Shepard thing is on more otherworldly on this album like and this is. This is like ben shepherd's out on the upside like he wrote a lot of that really yeah. Super unknown was really like him and chris and Down on the upside is a lot of ben shepard writing and he's fucking good and i really love that duty so underrated. I worry about him. I really do. He's he's like a weirdo. I worry about that. he's great. Tried to get him on. I don't think he's thinking any no he doesn't see to about hannah. It'll be about him when he gets on Let me think they'd have a problem with coming in the garage. Bannon kid now big camera and you probably gonna get a big fuck. You get busy. And i'd love this you shit pearl jam last exit coming in more vitality jack irons first. Time jack irons is a fucking jackie drummer. Yeah he's g. I love i love. Don't don't don't take that to mean something negative. I just love. He has got just a jangle sound about it. Yeah you know it just sounds like a racket you know that he was just making a racket on the and drugs and he's got a looser kind of just i dunno weird style and he's so different from dave ramsey so and when you look at them if you see the pictures or videos of this you see him on his little fucking drunk kid. He's got one rack. Tom like he's just a real fucking garage. Keeps it super basic atrazine. You know had a big full kid. You know china's symbols. Everything and jack was like. Nah i just got these five little things right here. He's like average. These was drum clinic right as opposed to like this. You know jack irons like face level weirdo when a garage somewhere. Like he belonged in this front bedroom. But i love. I love jack Certainly in the context of pearl jam. I really love his drum sound. i love his style. It really worked for baby then. Pearl jam i just i. Doug hit dug his contribution. Like that's that's one of those things like. He's and i love dave dave fucking monster drummer. He was awesome. But they're very different. Drummers yes yeah you're talking like it'd be the equivalent of like a travis barker to gainey kerry yeah you know what do in that mindset like where it's like one person's feeling the music and one person is over thinking what they're gonna play. You think yeah. I think he died. He thinks that's why it took him like so many tapes. You know you can hear it all over the versus a fucking hard hitting drummer. Dave one thing he was hard anyway fucker during it somewhat like that. Mike gordon from faith. No more he's like when. I think of hard hitting drummer. He's the first guy. I always think that do just offenders be attempting to crush the drum kit with every stroke while just working some things out behind the kid man. Yeah as it should be music. Bear for coming up next blood. One of the few earlier tunes guys doing debating on boys was one or was rats. That actually was havers. These at the end throws a sticks. I'm not sure. I think the very end of the reporting factually here averages sticks had walked there was like by probably disrupt yet it was like multiple takes and everybody knows that felt certain ways about about him. Yeah know and was in the control room at that time telling them to make a do it over and over again and his hands were literally gleams pets so fucking with those two bet her by how this is one of my favorite like finding the neat little shit to get seen pit watch and listen and look is watching these old pearl jam videos of crazy ed like this in the ed van on tour and he's a little bit. Aw love it was a good. It was a good era the most dangerous era for pearl jam because they were traveling separately but at the same time i you know they weathered the storm got also mounts after this so crazy remark. Christ back to tyler All right not this period. This probably was one of my favorites. I think openings album. You got that tremor quickly you get as far as album openers. Like the first few songs just like getting. I feel and just right at the beginning of that. Just hearing how qataris enough a little wacky. I love that's my favorite pearl. Jam is like weird pearl. When they're a little bit fucking weird i take. The man doesn't stay kiss. I love so many of this. My favorite song on the album for shorter but act on that. I really don't like the artwork work that they got for the singer to solid. Remember that literally the ocean with the guy's hands. Yes solid nineties. Art commerce coming together. Truman mega dad was a magical time. Who drops a spay Going way back way back for this. Get some angriest porch porch ryan to sadly style daily. My this time by you here. Now jack to play this for the first time on the man barry. Dating it's funny too because jackie's is so few symbols the as so few symbols and dave had so many like that was one of the real i think unique parts about davies. Playing is the way. He used samples very unique on a creative way and he had a lot of and jack is like the opposite. It's funny here especially a song like this. Well yeah i. I'm so used to hearing day. Play this song. But he doesn't even the one that reported it and the album mostly when we hear porches. Dave planet yeah you taking yeah particularly versions like the unplugged version sticks out to me. That's like a very prominent version of porch. And that's where the even listening to it now right. you don't have. That's where it's an angry song. It's already in anger saw high energy. Yes yeah this this isn. This version is in massively. Like this were high energy piece might get fucking wacky here. But that's the separation. Because dave was just some of those parts. I'm so scared away. Dave would play. Yeah symbols on those parts especially like in the song like i said and jackson. It's so different. It's kind of funny even this part. They're coming back and just going into the last song last. One guy's indifference solid tune ooh ooh and so. We always like one of my favorites. Were on his weather. Guys like looney at night like it was also just like when it's just can't ignore this track can Clubs shitty sounded recording. his background. noise in the best part is dig up some of those tapes and listened to help city Simple does have he plays. Jam live the will close to And chains literally. This is one of the songs that you had on your and just like suicide was thing race release. That was much the other one during the side. The acoustic version of like suicide from the songs from the super unknown. Yeah and the other side was release. Would just listen to them. A lot love Scream saw i haven't asked you andy. How's your sex life. Everything going some sex. i mean. now you're you know i've talked to jerry so much about it your europe here in a little too. You're quite young And that's the thing that plays a role right in house and the energy levels and the forty bucks everything in our life at this point because she and she's consists a two year olds consistently try to kill themselves right into bed yet. No you can't let the kid killed himself. Try your best. You know what i mean. Yeah you try your best. I kept mine going for at least thirteen years so far. Yeah look at you. We're going to win in professional getting the job. We have nineteen ninety. Five's self pollution radio starring pearl jam mad season and soundgarden in this case Always other scrubs. They didn't make the cut. Is you love this i did. I'm literally now have to dig up those tapes. Yeah from from there and Just to kind of maybe listen to the whole thing which means now going to have to dig up an old s cassette recording Just to just to listen to i. I do have a cassette deck. I have a cassette deck working cassette deck. I don't have it hooked up in a permanent way. I just used it last time i used. It was a couple years ago when i released Some stuff on a cassette. And i was using it for making copies released. One of my. Yo phantom things on cassette. Oh and then you know what i made some mix tapes to. I figured i had a cassette deck. I was like let me make some wacky mix. Tapes gave people mix tapes just for fun. Yeah just gave them check this out a little walkman or something fun. He's enjoyed doing that making mix tapes. Yeah the good old days and got old days long gone. Will you love this thing. Yeah i i mean like i the nostalgia of it now making route through boxes of bullshit to go and retrieve this. Yeah so yeah. It's fun here in those bands. At that time yes specifically like of that era such a great fucking potent era for these dudes. Yeah just have a for that time. They figured it out for that time at that time. Yeah you know what. I mean like what they were doing. This is an album. But i given a. You'll never this was. This is a high a right here. Yeah i like the fucking janke production. Just the role recording owns not much production to really speak of There's a okay mix and that's about that sounds kind of fucked up the recording just hissy and i mean there's everybody's vocals or pretty dry but man mike mccready sounds good as fuck. Always though goddamn guy is something else. Cornell sounded pretty solid. Ed sounded solid. We got jack irons in there for the first time. That's fun earning figuring out symbols. He's more than to do. I need to is fine. Yeah got a ride cymbal. Crash got a little. Hi hat what else you need. What what do you need to the. Well andy i love you thank you. I thank you very much for coming and doing this with me tonight. i appreciate it very much. It my initial thought was shit. I gotta do this by myself tonight. I was like. I don't know if i really wanna do that. You know it's fun once in a while i'd sit out here and do a little stony baloney episode or whatever. I haven't done it in a while. They're they're hilarious funded. Listen now but listen to him when my fantastic we'd get up and go for a run. How's your fat ass doing your less fat ago. I ate around the holidays like a stupid person like well beyond like you're still doing alright though you're going in the right direction. Yeah yeah and i. i already did. Set that goal so this summer. I'm achieving that goal. Scott yes really yes this summer. Yes and no shit. That's andy goal is to do it. I would love that. I would love that. I need to be scared as shit. Yeah so you will without a doubt. I need to do that. But like on the other side of that is so awesomeness. Yeah so much awesome. You've conquered something. So this as much as i love and talk about skydiving very novice skydiver like i've only got less than sixty jumps sixties. Got and i've been. However many i got like fifty eight. Whatever it is. I've been at least a little scared off fifty eight times like you know just a little. You know it's like it's scared as part of it you know. And that's okay. That's what you're paying for scared is part of my customer service scared just part of life and that's why i started appreciating it but whatever. I'm not going to get into it now. Everybody's heard enough but thank you. I love you and everybody listening. I appreciate you and if you could please go ahead and stop by the grunge podcast dot com and sign up for the patriot on. I love you. Don't be a square.

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No Filler Sidetrack: Temple of the Dog

Rock N Roll Archaeology

37:38 min | 1 year ago

No Filler Sidetrack: Temple of the Dog

"The Camaraderie and the the healthy competition park I found later was unusual and it was. It was Johnny Ramone. That actually point that out to me later talking about I think the French between programs of Soundgarden for example and saying I never seen that before. Newark wasn't like that we hate each other. We would screw each other up at every. Turn if you could. You would mess the other band up the best thing about. Is I think that you learn from each other. You know when you you You're inspired by each other for me is Temple of the dog. And welcome to no filler. The music podcast dedicated to sharing the often overlooked hidden gems that fill the space between the singles on our favorite records. My name is Quentin. Got My brother Travis with me as always and for our sidetracked. Today we are covering a supergroup called Temple of the dog so last week we covered pearl jam and their debut album from ninety one called ten and this is a band that kind of formed a surrounding the death of the lead singer from mother. Love Bone that's right. Yeah kind of like a tribute to him. That there is shared shared connection between Chris Cornell which is the lead singer of soundgarden and as we mentioned last week both Jeff comment and Stone Gossard of Pearl Jam. Were in mother Love Bone. So you know. Obviously they knew him very well and their lead singer. Andrew Wood had od I think that year actually. I think it wasn't nineteen ninety when he passed away and it's also worth mentioning and it's pretty much the entire Pearl Jam lineup. So it's Mike McCready on lead guitar. I don't know about the Drummer Mac. Now that yeah. That's Matt Cameron Matt Cameron. Okay yeah so basically was Pearl Jam plus Chris Cornell I think I think Matt Cameron was a drummer back in the the beginning for soundgarden. So they go. I mean that's just a that's the Seattle music scene rate. If you think about it that way right it's the members from Green River right with Jeff and stone. You've got sound gardens Chris Cornell so yeah Chris Cornell was actually a roommate of Andrew would So he died in nineteen ninety of a heroin overdose the day the Cornell got back from a tour for Masongorere ran so He wrote these two songs for his friend. Andrew when he went on tour in Europe a few days later and the two songs for reach down and say hello to heaven both ended up on this record So basically what happened was he gets home. From a tour. Andrew dies the same day from a heroin overdose a few days later. He's he's back. On the road touring in Europe and he writes these two songs on the road basically so he had the idea that like you know. Let me get a couple of other guys from other. Love Bone to record this with me. Just as an idea of putting out just like a a single like a two track to side single EP And then they pull on the rest of the the rest of the group cool the way the Eddie vedder gets involved with this record. Is You know he had already flown up from San Diego to rehearse for as we mentioned they were then called. Mookie blaylock so he came up there to to rehearse and he just happened to sit in on one of the rehearsals with Temple of the dog and provided backing vocals. That's go that's kind of the kind of cool so it's really interesting. What do you think about it because when we listen to the record now and when the record became a success Pearl Jam had had received the popularity of that point tenant came out Just a little bit later so like it's one of those records that kind of became more and more popular in. That's probably helped. With the fact that this was a mash up of soundgarden which had already been successful with Chris Cornell on the vocals and then essentially all of Pearl Jam which became huge. Just a few months later. You know so anyway cool. Let's let's listen tunes. Men are attuned Muslim woman. Short and sweet brother. Let's listen to a tune So the song that we played in For the INTRO was of course hunger strike. Which is the biggest? Probably the most well known song from this record So you probably recognize that. We're going to jump down to close to the end of the record and it's called your savior track eight and It also features Eddie vetter with background vocals. So here we go okay. A great track man. Yeah it's solid and you know Chris Cornell just like Eddie vedder just an iconic vocalist. You know what I mean. Like his probably one of the greatest rock vocalist of all time. You know it was really cool guitar riff to throughout the song. Yeah the Guitar Solo to obviously do not looking at the album cover here. Jeff made this one to you. Know How like you're saying with with ten. They had a hand in the art direction and everything. It definitely looks handmade. Yeah very nineties. Yeah definitely so rolling. Stone gave it four out of five stars and the author. David Fricke who I think. We've all heard of David. Fricke like very well-known. He said that for hunger strike in reach down alone to the singles. Temple of the dog deserves immortality. Though songs are proof that the angst that defined Seattle Rock in the nineties was not cheap sentiment at least in the beginning. Nice which is interesting because I guess what? He's implying as like if he's at least in the beginning it was it was genuine. You know what I mean versus you. Talk about all the bands that were called grunge that perhaps didn't deserve to be. For whatever reason did it was more manufactured you know yes. Hunger Strike and reach town. They're more like the songs are a little bit more Sentimental like more. It's less about the testosterone and more about genuine emotion. And my not and hello. I mean we talked about this last week with program all the themes he talk about depression suicide right so anyway Bso with the song. Your Savior Yeah the the Guitar. Riff that the permeates throughout the song is just killer guitar. Solo is great really cool drumbeats great and I like I like the change towards the very end like a see why he wanted to play the whole song through. Yeah exactly there's lots of lots of different changes throughout the song which is really cool. So anyway Yeah so this was a wrecker. We probably could have done a whole episode on But it made for a perfect sidetracked for Pearl Jam some and we can. We can circle back and cover temple the dog at some point. You might find a way back to the nineties. Cruncher how we're GONNA find our way back dude? By the time we're done with this little stint here we will have covered maybe ten artists maybe less than eight bands depending on how many we end up doing. Because I think next week is no doubt which I'm super pumped about me to sidetrack for that and then it's going to and then who knows what happens over them so Yeah we'll make our way back in the nineties for sure did. Yeah that's it man. That's our That's our sidetrack here for Temple of the dog Like I said Great Record They one of those kind of iconic records you know. They put out one album and then clearly pearl. Jam Becomes Pearl Jam after that. So yeah and from what? I'm reading here like. They've only they only have like one legit full live performance him It was minus better but they performed in saddle at the offramp cafe. Which is what I mentioned last week when we cover program which is now called El Corazon But they've done some one off performances. If by chance soundgarden Pearl Jam or performing together. They'll do like little tiny temple of the dog says within those Sats which is Kinda cool but yeah that's just one of those one of those moments spread that just all happened to come together and there are in the right mindset and it's awesome that it exists it makes you wonder if it would be it would have became as as icon ick had had. Pearl Jam not seen success. You know 'cause it's like nobody. Would nobody would know her Give two shits about Eddie. Vetter dust acting. It would've just been a thing that cornell did with some guys from Green River. Mother bone ramp mother love bone exactly so well that's it did To jump back on my couch and watch some Flight of the conchords with my wife. Dude we've been watching so much TV. Lately I never get into flight of the conchords dude you know. I hate any sort of group like that. The does you know Corny ass. You should watch the show. Now get into it. I just can't get into it while the episode that has the iconic business time song. 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Did you should watch flight of the conchords man. It is fucking hilarious and I really hope. I'm reaching out to our to our fans give us a tweet and say Travis. Watch it bro. Now you don't think going to chime in and say hey you should watch the conchords until areas now mafia limit. I can't get into I can't get into. I mean what's the official? Do what I mean. I keep calling a joke songs. Like what is the official term for that? I don't know man legit musician. That's great. I mean that's fine. Then right right legit so let me see. Because we're we're talking about like weird Al Fatah Concord Right. I mean we'RE WE'RE WEIRD. Al's is very Mohammadi Rock. Comedy Comedy Rock I came here. That just can't do it man sorry to you. Do you like comedies. I love comedies. Do you like those. This exactly did thank you. I understand words rabbi just because I like to. Things doesn't mean I liked him together. You know what I'm saying hades loss did I just. I don't find myself chuckling. When I listened to the socks is like I feel like it's too much. Have you ever watched a comedy and then or even a movie any movie and then you're suddenly aware of the writer? You know what I mean. You're sure yeah yeah I see here you know what I mean. I'm too aware like I'm taken out of it. I feel like that's what happens to me when when I listen to comedy rock. I'm just like well. What if you listen to any song and you read the lyrics like I see what you're doing here? Do you ever do that now. Just just enjoy it then. But that's the point. Is that like? It's very much centered around the lyrics minutes comedy rock because it's all just jokes. You know his no deep. There's nothing deep vow about them has no meaning behind them. They're not all music has to be deep. I know especially when it's common. I'm just saying like everybody. There's a TV series surrounded surrounding it. Right it's just it's too. It's too heavy handed the me you know that's fine. Most of this going to get cut out. Just what you hurt. Let's move right along. Yes I got a doozy for you. I'm GonNa let you go first time though again so this is as fresh as it gets. I was listening to this today. Ooh You're talking about the strokes known in them. I'm not going to do but we can talk about that later if you want to say right now if you guys I if anyone listening right now if you haven't heard the new strokes album in your fan of them and you've been waiting just waiting for them to release something good again. 'cause in my opinion it's been years listened to their new album. The new abnormal just came out. Traveling are both big fans and we are long standing strokes fans. Yeah I mean we. We've been fan since the beginning Literally since the beginning so you and I were talking earlier about this record in how it it sounds exactly like if we were to consider look into the future ten years ago back when there's so many good records and say I wonder what they're going to sound like in twenty twenty. This is what I would expect and hope them to sound like you know what I mean. Yeah it's really great. It's really good effort. Good stuff anyways men. That's a little stroke. Sidetrack it. Lets you heard lately friend. Okay so This I love it when this happens so this is a artists that I used to listen to years ago on band camp and he had a spotify He had a spotify page. But none of these records around there and suddenly they just showed up on spotify And I it's been years since I've listened to this so anyway what I'm talking about who I'm talking about is he goes by the name. Third Person Lurk and have you heard of this guy Q? I don't think so like I said it's band. Camp is where I found him so like very very independent. He's on like the small. Uk Record label called dusted wax cool. Anyway this is trip hop down tempo. Like the perfect. Could like quintessential thibault sound is what this is right. But it's really well done. It's Kinda got dark tones to it. More like you know really super laid back almost kind of atmospheric and ambient co with a dark kind of spin to it anyway so. This record came out in twenty ten so a decade ago again. The guy's name is third person. Larkin the name of the record is the nameless city. It's got dope ass album Martin and The traffic listened to here is called the silver key Let's not to like about that. Yeah like I said just classic down tempo kind of sound in that whole record bit. You know it's it's you push playing and it's that that vibe the entire time at great it's just awesome. Yeah Great Music Too If he worked at a computer all day It's music to have on Pure coach like me. If you're a developer. Yeah and for us do that. This kind of music that down-tempo stuff has just had a special place in our hearts for like the majority of yeah are like years of actually becoming fans of music. Yeah I think we may have touched on this. Unlike our our TOSCA episode. Where like Downton? But we discovered down to mold together and it was like the perfect timing too. Because like you said this was when we were starting to branch out beyond the. Rock and roller we the Indie rock and stuff like that that we were really into back then and downton but was entirely different. World Yeah I was taking. It was taking jazz. Which is something. We are familiar with from our dad growing up flipping on it's head and and merging it with like hypothesis. That way. Yeah so like you know. We discovered it at the perfect time. And I'm I agree with you. It's been there the whole time and like I I've never not I I go in and out of like seeking this stuff out. You know what I mean like. There's there's times were like I'm I'm fully into it and I'm seeking out new artist and looking at it listening to bands and stuff that I you solicited back then and then there's other times like I don't WanNa hear this again for a long time you know but I you know like I said this. Guy I probably listen to him a decade ago when he was first putting the stuff out and now he's His entire discography is on spotify. So anyway Pulled up push play if you like that kind of stuff. All the music is great so all right queue much you've been heard in lately so I finally pushed play on David Bowie's space oddity album for the first time and I dedicated an evening to it. My God did such an awesome record so this is his second fooling album. It's technically it's just a self titled. Just called David Bowie and he also released an album in nineteen sixty seven couple years before this phone. Call David Bowie. But this album has over the years it's been released under several different titles Also known as space oddity. So it's got the the first track on the record space oddity. Everyone knows that song ground shirt will to me. Just tell you. Yeah so is one of those things where I'm like dude. I don't know enough about David. Bowie's music and he is one of the greatest artists of all time dudes considering that we are part of a music podcast. Now I know when you know. We probably shouldn't say that. Well I'm saying that loud and proud dude and I'm I'm just GONNA continue to dive deeper because this was such a great. Listen all the way through. There is just so many great moments in this album. GonNa name off a couple of tracks that I really enjoy. But we're just going to play one of them I really liked track to unwashed and somewhat slightly dazed beside never heard a harmonica rock. That hard ever Letter to harm her. Miami's the next track really really pretty song. The one that sticks out for me the that I thought about a few days after listening to it is the second to the last song on the record. We're GONNA play the whole song. It's called God knows I'm good. Who was walking through the count? Solve a national concern and a cash machine was spitting by show Dasell the multitude faces on a stretch and glean some arch and is exchanged. Oire is slimy slipped attend office chewing and Sir thank side and face was white with incase action. Swear observe so sure closed. Our eyes gave a conscience blind. Brian God knows and God knows God. God knows on God. God God knows and God now Sam God God God. God Man Love Then Shimo accents clutching time to pay a bag. Spur rations shut down for a heart and inside as the hand laid on her show she was led away but well did. Devon dare gas machines shrieking on account a Sarah. God does does a flip on a name and a crowd of rush. Tired Old Lei Feng. Said to the well and Gordon floor. God knows God God knows on God God knows. On God's won't God knows God God knows Sam God God no Zanjan. Shaw gone ahead so I've never. I've never heard that side of of Bali before which is Kinda funny because like you know I'm sure he's got plenty of songs like that. Yeah that's yeah. Let's let's put this on record for me. I only really know Bowie's singles and to think right. That's what we're all about on this podcast. So I'm I don't care if we do it on this podcast or if I do it on my own time. I'm diving into Bowie Dude. Hardcore is fucking time sure. Yeah no I mean we need. I mean at some point. We're going to do a David Bowie episode. Obviously Oh yeah probably get into space oddity men. So that's the thing that's why I want to dive into it and see see else. You got man man but yeah this was nineteen sixty nine his second full length out he would have been. He was twenty two at the time. I love lyrics in the song. It's about a a lady that steals a can of stew from a store because she can't afford it she gets caught and she just cries out or thanks. God knows that I'm a good person. Maybe he'll look the other way today in. Forgive me for what I've done man just fucking Gami. The first time I heard like beautiful song. Yeah that's that's that's great. Yeah Yeah So. That's what I listen to this weekend. And let's back and wrap it up dude be so sidetracked there's a sign trek so we mentioned this earlier Next week we're GONNA switch it up from the GRUNGE and I'm I'm palms man. I love so some of the songs on this record. Urges like quintessential nineties rock songs And it's you know it's Gwen Stafani. Did you know yeah I mean what more do you want? We're talking about? Tragic Kingdom Command Nineteen ninety-five by no doubt and no doubt. It's coming up soon. No doubt it's going to be fun to dive into this a Skop punk band. I mean yeah. They one of the few that found such success a dozen hangman. And that's one of the one of the things about the sky sound you know. It's it's linked with the nineties in such a quirky kind of like you know the scar. That freakin the horns. Man You know I never got into it man by no doubt. I'm always I've always been into no doubt and I say that but I again this is another one of those moments are another one of those bands that I never really dove into farther than the singles. So this is going to be. I I listen for me all the way through for this album. Yeah I am with you on that. Yeah but like as far as far as sky band stood never got into it at the only other band. I can think of off the top of my head mighty mighty Boston's right exactly but that's that's exactly what I'm talking about like there. There are those those sky songs that made it into the mainstream like The impression is what is the impression that I get by mighty mighty bowel sounds. Everybody knows that song man and it's it's a great song dude. Enter random. Scott Song comes to mind. That was on Tony Hawk. Pro Skater. Yeah I don't know it was mighty mighty baas tone but it probably was but yeah exactly so It's just one of those things where the generation that came after US probably look at the sky. Fad that happened for a little bit in the nineties. Like what the fuck you guys do do. That's the cool thing It'll be fun to find a maybe find something a little bit more obscure and the sky Vein from the nineties for Sidra. Search out. Yeah I'm totally down for that. Yeah lots of. That's our challenge. J. Let's dig deep for that one. Yeah Yeah I'm excited to listen this record I'm with you. This is going to be my first. My first listen through From start to finish For for tragic kingdom here. But I mean who who doesn't who doesn't know Some of the singles on this record man just a girl. Oh don't speak leave a message in Okla- ou been was that tragedy. I think that was spiderweb. See Track one now. Yeah Yeah. That's a great man. 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Episode 244: Naked Came the Stranger (Entry 823.MT2538)

Omnibus! With Ken Jennings and John Roderick

1:04:10 hr | 1 year ago

Episode 244: Naked Came the Stranger (Entry 823.MT2538)

"Nothing we are Jennings and John Rodrick. We speak to you from our present which we can only assume as your distant past the turbulent time that was the early twenty first century during the great cataclysm that will surely befall our civilization. We began this monumental reference of strange obscure human knowledge. These recordings represent our attempt to compile and preserve wonders esoterica. That would otherwise be lost. So whether you're listening from an advanced civilization or just reinvented the technology to decrypt our transmissions. This is our legacy to you. This is our time capsule. This is the you have accessed entry. Eight two three dot M. T. Two five three eight certificate number five zero one. Five zero naked came the stranger. Let's face it all. I know how to do is take off my clothes. I don't even know how to say it could game the stranger. Well it's not like a spooky mystery novel it is to me. Sex Sex frightens me. No I don't well in an is there any scenario where. Ucf Naked Stranger. And it's not a little scary you. Well you're right. All nakedness is a little scary. Spent more strangers scary especially if the stranger is coming I mean I think it depends on how you know you can know somebody a brief period of time and they are still a stranger but you know them a little and so I guess naked came the stranger it. The question is how strangers this stranger. If you see how naked right if you see someone that's naked and coming and a complete stranger think that's scarier than if if they're like Oh. This is a stranger but we've known each other for like two hours. There have movies. There have been movies that have milked the scariness of seeing someone naked. Where you don't expect to see them naked and it doesn't always have to be like the cronin the shining right like it's even. It's even kind of spooky and I don't know just kind of disturbing away when Like Elizabeth Isabel Rossellini nudity and Blue Velvet. I think just because it's so weird to see someone walking down the street naked. It's it's too vulnerable. It feels like something terrible has happened or is about to happen which is probably usually true. When someone's walking down the street. Have you ever seen someone walking naked down the street? I don't think so. I mean not being a woman I have not been like exposed to in public by a creeper a flasher right but that's to virtually every woman I know right at some point I don't know if that counts as naked. I have seen a naked people in the street and it has never been a good scene. It's been a bad scene every time and and they've been women not men so you're right. Drugs drugs are involved. Yeah Drugs and and just bad bad times all around but yeah there have been other times when someone who is nominally. A stranger but a new friend has been naked. Still a stranger for the most part and yet it's not a terrible thing strangers just a friend you haven't met. A stranger is a friend that you met a couple of. Can you are famous author? I am not of one. Who's books trouble the top spot in the New York Times Bestseller List? Every time he published a new trouble. Yes I'm famous author but I'm not a famous author right okay. That's interesting but I have written twelve books. I feel like pretty solid Middle East resume. Let's call you a solid author. I'm extremely tangible. Do you have a sense? I know you do what constitutes what sort of numbers constitute a bestseller. It is a little bit sad. It's probably changed over time. It has I mean the weird thing about publishing is that there are a tiny number of. It's like it's like running a venture capital fund basically if you're a publisher you're a very tiny number of mega bestsellers that are enormously profitable and fund the rest of the enterprise in which most books do not make back their advance right so some books. If you get a Harry Potter on your list then you can just know. You're going to send sell one hundred million copies for everybody dines out for for fifty years on it and that subsidizes a bunch of writers who I mean. It's it's a little different now that there's multiple New York Times bestseller list like I've been. I think I was in the top ten of the New York Times bestseller list but it was like general nonfiction or something. It's all broken up by category right now and I. I feel like my books book. That does well for me. We'll sell in the mid to high five figures and that's so eighty thousand copies. That seems high for me but yeah that's fifty thousand copies. Yeah fifty somewhere in. That ballpark is what I would think is like a huge success. Seems like a big big book but imagine if you if you have fifty thousand people watched your TV show you jump off a bridge right? Although in my business in Indie rock shirt fifty thousand copies of a record is is a good showing the top two percent of all records and I assume the royalty system is not that different in that. You're making a couple of bucks a buck or two for each copy. It depends on the record label if you had a If you were signed to Atlantic records or whatever Sony and you sold fifty thousand copies they would be really disappointed and and you would make zero dollars but if you were on an independent label fifty thousand copies would would be fairly profitable for. I mean. That's the long winters albums. I think the top two selling ones are now edging to ward having sold fifty thousand copies after ten or more years of being released so we were never any any bigger than your books or this son podcast. Yeah we we imagine. Millions of of the Aspen tree colonies. Enjoying this in the future. Maybe that's just one sale but our era I think we're inching up to maybe fifty thousand people might hear one of these over the lifetime of the show. Well but you know our show is still still pretty new but also I think I think if we go back to the early episodes. It's slightly more than that now but it is. It is as long Tail Long Tail Right. And that is that's always been true in publishing. I wasn't always true in in music because the price of the cost of getting into to record making was prohibitively high to make an album cost a lot of money. Used to cost a lot of money is it. Is it physically pressing in Denver? Getting it and so in the old days of the music industry there were regional releases. Some abandoned come out with a song that was regional to upstate. New York and like what's your favorite upstate New York Garage Party rock anthem. Actually I have one. It's by the band Duke Jupiter. Who was sort of a New York band? They have a song called. I'll drink to you but came out in one thousand nine hundred eighty two. It's a great song not really. I don't think it bothered anybody right. Didn't trouble anyone past the sort of the genesee. Oh how did you come across upstate? New York Post punk classic crewing up in Anchorage. I had a friend. That had emigrated to Anchorage from I think Buffalo and integrated this country. This is this is nine hundred eighty two thereabouts and and he brought the Duke Jupiter seven inch and it was. I mean it's just good old fashioned rock and roll but it It stuck with me. I can still sing the song there. Speaking of regional releases. There is a Vancouver punk band called Ken Jennings Real and they sent me a seven inch. I'm good listening. I've never actually. I don't WanNA turntable. I never actually my should bring it over so so it was tough to have a in nineteen seventy five. It was tough to have a a band that was successful selling fifty thousand copies and I think they're up to sell six figures at that time but but there were several bands. I think even aerosmith is like this. The first couple of records didn't sell very well and it was only when toys in the attic came out that all of a sudden the early records started to sell as well scour the back catalog and it was it was maybe that that record labels had invested enough in a band like that that they were willing to go three records to try and develop an audience But does not anymore and in any field knowing in any field but in the small scale and this was our problem with with with iheart media they their business model was to try to get seven million people to listen to a podcast and if there was there was a successful podcast. I was slightly smaller than that. Once they found out you were one of the mid list shows you know. We felt very good about that. And that was not their emphasis. They didn't support the show. After that and leeway I feel like my way of saying it was nicer. It wasn't their advertising emphasis. No no no. That's right. It wasn't their advertising and it's probably honestly. I think on the ground. The it's an effective having ad sales on commission you know nobody wants to sell ads in the show that everybody's trying to sell ads in the show. That has a million listeners. That's where the not as I heart wanted to know on our show today today. It's quite easy to find has because we're no longer using a big company where they commissioned paid ad for us in the old days of publishing and this is up. Until the you know the fifties and sixties book-publishing was really a large leave as you're describing. It is today largely a loss leader. Most books didn't recoup the few ones that did supported the industry but it was very much an old boy network and one of a kind of literati east coast. Smarty pants is that we're publishing middling books every once in a while you'd get a Phillip Roth. That would become popular because his his book had fifty pages worth of masturbation talk. That's where people wanted or Steinbeck right. But but mostly it was a pretty stayed. Group of of New Yorkers. Were that that filled the buying each other's books. Yeah that's you see the vestiges of this today in publishing where they still Are In an industry. Where it's it's not clear how it would make money like their practices. Just don't make sense. And they're clearly vestiges of a time. When for whatever reason? Economic CONSIDERATIONS WERE SECONDARY. Know sending an author around on a book tour. Like my first few books. I I went to ten or twenty cities because that was considered. I mean it persisted as a perk but that was considered the way to get word out about a book was to fly an author to a city have him read an excerpt to fifteen to twenty five people in Walden. Books are a campus bookstore and then some of that would jump start interest and of course somebody would write an article in the local alternative paper and even on the page. You can do the math and see that fifty and people buy a copy of a book. That doesn't even pay the one night in the hotel. Why are we doing this right well? It's a it's a curious business and I think you see now a lot of a lot of publishers. Their bread and butter is actually autobiographies of celebrities. Sports Stars television stars biographies of celebrities like Yoko Ono of celebrities like oconee cookbook. That's the best seller. Was that one of the stuff that they think is gonNA jump out at an airport and make you feel like I'll read a book by some CIA agent and they're right that stuff does sell. Literary fiction and literary fiction is a harder sell. You've got to put somebody in the mood of a movie without without being able to show me of a book without even being Shaima trailer right like you would in a movie. But in the nineteen fifties and sixties there was kind of an evolution in publishing that. That feels like it was partly a co-op tation of what was happening in Hollywood. There's no way cooptations the correct word. How would you pronounce it? I don't know co-option co-option coopting coop. Coop Kitchen Koalas. Let's call it co-option Hollywood had gone from the early days that we've we've talked about on the omnibus where Where the stars of the movies weren't even mentioned by name two time when there was a lot of fixation what was happening with the stars thanks to Florence Lawrence thanks to Florence Florence Lawrence entry and there was there was quite a bit of of titillating gossip about the stars swapping spouses and doing drugs and and that sold a lot of tabloids. Sure I want to know which of my favorite stars were smoking reefer. That's right that's all I care about and that Started to infiltrate the novels that were being published the popular novels. You know. They're always been Zane Grey novels and adventure stories and so forth but cheap pulp novel. Yeah but they're starting to be cheap pulping novels about contemporary people thinly veiled stories of Hollywood stars that were you know they were and sexy novels. Now trashing all I never would have thought of those coming from the gossip tabloid press. That's really interesting that People just wanted a fictional version of of the stories. They were hearing over there back fence about Jean. Harlow right true crime a lot of people you know a lot of stars overdosing and in Hollywood stories of murderers and so forth. You know a like the that kind of stuff that was. This was not historical fiction. This was not. They weren't really spire adventure novels. It was it was like they were. They had a lot of sex in them for what we think of as a prudish Tom Their lurid and they're they're kind of about regular folks is at the idea there or over Noel Bowl would you would see Elizabeth Taylor but you would recognize her as a reader but she'd have a pseudonym you know she'd be fictionalized Lana Turner but these in the books. They're they're famous people. They're they're glamorous oftentimes heiresses and entertainers and whatnot. One of the best selling authors of all time is a man by the name Herald. Robin or sure held Robin sold millions of books and was a celebrity in his own. Right He as of this broadcast has sold over seven hundred and fifty million books which is a new imagine damaging number. And you see them. All in used bookstores. Yeah I mean it's funny to walk through. These books aren't just see shelves of this kind of Jacqueline Susann. Kind of disposable literature you create a brand you. You're writing as fast as you can because people will finish WANNA on the train and they'll they'll want another one like that well. Jacqueline Susann is a is a great example. You know the she is kind of widely regarded as the as the author that invented the book tour interesting prior to Jacqueline Susann. There wasn't there wasn't a sense of author being promoted as a kind of Hollywood sex sort of celebrity in their own. They would just sit at home and hope reviews. Came in and Jacqueline. Susann was first an actress. She had like a pretty long career as initially kind of a stage actress and then got into got into television commercials and then had had several talk shows. The course of the fifties she was. She was never like a. You know a lead actress but she started writing plays. She was kind of a polymath thick. Or you know like a a multi talented person. So she's a personality even before she writes Valley of the dolls personality that You know was was a comedian. She played she she was. She was the spokesperson for for a lace and embroidery company. That did television commercials. She she knows and she was a wit and only started writing Pretty late in her her career like late fifties. She wrote a book about her dog. A book called aaliyah. The dog no called every night Josephine. Her Dog's name was Josephine. And she she wrote letters to friends about the funny antics of her dog. Josephine and they were like Jackie. You should write a book and so she took these letters and compiled them into a book about a about Josephine which went onto sell. Almost two million copies probably by now too. That's so funny because that's still a publishing. Juggernaut is the book about the dog. Yeah Marley and me or Jimmy. Stewart's poems about his damn dog here in Seattle. It's the art of racing in the rain. Guy Yeah but it's it's For some reason dog owners want to read books about other dog owners dog antics and which doesn't seem like books don't seem like the right medium for that. Well you know I mean if you're a dog owner you WANNA consume dog based material in every media because those people are also watching. Dog Shows and listening to dog podcast. Just feel like a description of a dog doing something cute like now that we're in the golden age of videos someone describing one of these videos to me is death. Well the thing about it is people like to think. They like to anthropomorphized dogs. That's true the book gives you nation and viewpoint and right so you can impart to the dog all kinds of motivations within a book whereas a dog video. You're you're just left to wonder. I thought it was when I was a kid. I didn't like dog barks boring. I mean the boy has a dog and the dog dies. Of course I read many of those but if it was the incredible journey or ribs or something from the point of view of the dog I just realized very quickly. This has something to say. Star doesn't even own clothes. Like what why do I care about what it thinks like it? Would it would eat? Its owner's face off to eat. Henry Huggins is face off in the after the apocalypse. I think in the case of Josephine Josephine was a little serve lapdog and so not as likely to eat Jacqueline. Suzanne's face through but when the when the book started to sell and when it was popular Jacqueline Susann who had a long career in front of the camera or in the spotlight and liked. That part of life went on a tour with Josephine. The doll and became a draw. People would come to love the loved it so much. They would come to meet her. Get her to sign books. She was very she catered to bookstore she was she said a lot of thank you letters. And so in a way invented the idea that an author would go around the country and meet her fan. Signed BOOKS. And it really. They just came to to meet Josephine the dog and and Suzanne together they were they were It was a package deal and authors. Regard that as a perk. They don't get out of the house much so the fact that they could actually go around the country order room service very exciting to these to these right to actually meet human beings. I was at a book event once and I was asked if I wanted to meet good dog Carl and you know I was introduced to this dog that I was apparently supposed to known. I pretended to be a huge fan of good dog. Carl and his owner who writes children's books about good dog Carl. I was like that when someone introduced me J.J. Abrams nice to meet you. Some famous person Jacqueline Susann then wrote Valley of the dolls which was a massive success and it was exactly this kind of book Sort of story of three women. The the titular dolls in this in this book are drugs right. The dolls are not the women. Is that drug slang? I don't know doyle. She invented. She invented it dolls. Were her sort of like code. Word for veterans and so all the all three of the main characters in the book are you know they're all women from various walks of life and and their lives are destroyed by amphetamines. But there's a lot of sort of sexy. I'm sure there's lots of sexual adventures on the way I mean. That was the appeal of a lot of these books. They were bought by women at a time when you know pornography was not available to women in any way right narrative porn rather than just share a looping. I don't know how much of this is called. General how much is innate? But we actually think of this as a kind of thing. That's this particularly interesting to women. They they prefer the description the narrative rather than the visual person. Yeah this is the fifty shades of gray situation where the book gives you. It has just enough of an imprimatur of literature that it's something you could read on the train. Something to be embarrassed by but then there's all this sort of bodice ripping this double standard whereby you know you get snood sneered at somebody reading a magazine on the train. That's the thing you're just sitting on the train with your phone. You know trying to conceal the the thirty second gift of two people making out. That's what happens at public libraries now so much on the train right. Everybody's looking at computers. Well Valley of the dolls was a massive success as I say but also critically panned by everyone. There wasn't a single person in the literati in the New York publishing world in the New York review books on television even anyone who was reviewing books at the time Gave it two thumbs down. But that did not inhibit its sales and again. Jacqueline Susann went around the around the country promoting it and having a good old time appearing on the Johnny Carson show with with lots of Bomo and And all of her subsequent books also and she didn't write many because she died prematurely of cancer but all of her books were hits they all went to the top of the Charts. They all sold in copious quantities. And they were all reviled by the smarty pants is and this is true. Also of the Harold Robbins Book and a lot of books that were at the top of the charts were regarded as trash by the people whose books were not selling. There's some gender aspect to that as well. You KNOW ROMANCE NOVELS. Not of any kind are not generally held in high esteem. You know to this day Nora. Roberts probably writes a book a week right and people go to the supermarket and buy them all and nobody bothers to even view them. Because it's just a romance novel. There's a big difference between a romance novel. I think and these novels which are sensationalistic novels. Right they're not just about a woman who's living on the Fan. Man Shirtless shirtless writer. T shirt was rider. Exactly be their books that That a contemporary re reader would be able to situate in time and place and a lot of them are about Hollywood or Hollywood adjacent but they they they have the they haven't aspect of expose right. This is again kind of tabloid culture. Where it's like behind the scenes. This is what's really happening in the world and so it's titillating in a different way. It's not just that you're reading about sex. It's that you're seeing glimpse of how decadent the the world of the rich and famous are and this was before we learned to hate the rich and famous. I mean it's Joan Collins Sister Jackie with all her Hollywood wise book. It's exactly the and I've never read a single one single book in this genre the farthest thing from an authority busy reading books about the pyramids. I have not read any books in the Shawn Ray either but but there are always sitting in vacation houses and stuff. Why am I not picking up a Stephen King? That's what my kids are eating Stephen Cake. But this this kind of style infuriated the literature types and it it like a lot of snobs in the music business. There was a sense that the things that were popular. The books that were popular were garbage and and they were clogging the system. They were drowning out the the the great books that that the the serious novelists believed if everyone read their great books. Course it would bring peace to the world and that we would be living in a in a nation of philosopher kings. And of course. That's not true. These people didn't by Harold Robbins Book. They just wouldn't buy a book that year in the Nineteen fifty-six there was an incident where a radio personality by the name of Jean Shepard. A became convinced that the best seller list was rigged. And at the time the bestseller list was Rick I mean it was compiled partly by asking bookstore. Owners which books were being requested. The most and radio. Yeah that's right. It's exactly like how does that how booksellers used to work. Hey I'd like to dedicate this copy of eastern by John Steinbeck to my girlfriend Diana but if people came in and said like I'd like to I'd like to get a copy of this book and the book store didn't have it. They would write it down another request for this book. And then that was how they determined the charts. Emily incentivizes books with low orders. Right this was true of the music business for decades. It was the top of the charts. Were were largely compiled by asking by polling. Unofficially polling record store owner and. Dj's who what records do you think are the most popular ones? It's so funny for who poured over these authoritative lists. Yeah to find that it was all made up possibly paid off. Well there wasn't any way of At the time sort of There weren't actuaries that we're monitoring actual record sales record. Companies kept that stuff secret and that was why Paola came in to the situation. Is that you could just pay somebody to lie. But also you're calling some guy at a record store and he's like The most popular record is a devaux. My experience of being in my twenty s in America was that record store. Clerks are not the most reliable people you would. You would go in if you were doing any kind of data analysis. You're like I'd like to buy this heavy Middle Judas priest record and they're like it's not actually heavy metal. Don't trust their tattoo choices. Much less their their data compiling so this this this personality Jean Shepard famous. Yeah yeah like. He's the Christmas story he's A. He's a Red Ryder. Bb rifle with the thing in the stock. Yeah Jean Shepard had had a lot of midwestern storyteller figure and an extensive Radio audience in the mid fifty like a late night. Radio show that people just plan their evenings around and and a member of this class of smart people in the world that are making good culture and he started to encourage his listeners to go into bookstores and recruit request. The book I liberty now. There was no book I libertine but it sounds like it's Kinda got the either Jerry Thing of Mickey Splinter Crime Book Right. It's it's perfect. It has the word Libertine like one of these kind of period novels where it uses a fancy sex word It's good and and enough of his listeners. The Guardian on this hoax that I libertine shot up the New York Times Books List and became like a publishing sensation and there was no without existing and so like Chinese democracy or whatever long after it was already like on the top of the charts. He gene met with an author named Theodore sturgeon and contacted him to write I libertine. And there's a they put together a a very lurid cover of a of a sort of Dan you know. Eighteenth Century Dandy and the the the book cover is is filled with little jokes inside references. And he wrote this book feel sturgeon sat down and wrote in one tried to write it in one uninterrupted typing session just like road and wrote and wrote and wrote and wrote until he passed out and I think ultimately the book was finished by the wife of the publisher who just kind of stepped in and like wrapped it up if our audience does not know who theodore sturgeon is. He was one of the great pulp sci. Fi Writers of the thirties and forties and fifties. I think he he wrote the Star Trek. Where Kirk sees the white rabbits or whatever some kind of planet where whatever you picture happens right buff marshmallow man or whatever. I think. Today's mostly remembered for well two things. One he inspired. Kurt vonnegut gates pulp crazy pulp. Sifi character kilgore trout trout sturgeon interested if I had no idea that theodore sturgeon was kilgore trout in last name. Alone I guess. And then he also is responsible for sturgeons law which has become really popular and discussions of highbrow vs lowbrow culture. You know surgeons law no surgeons life is I. Don't know what the number is. Ninety percent of everything is crap so it's as a as a science fiction guy when people would say well. Science fiction is just as low brow. It's crap he would say. No no there's just like anything else. There's this is a small percentage of good science fiction and a lot of crap but that's true of of yours genre as well. He's probably not wrong. True of a of American auto manufacturing true of sports teams. And it's the subtext of discussions in our culture to this day. Like when Martin. Scorsese is asked what he thinks about marvel movies. You know the assumption is that prestige get your average prestige gangster. Movie is more interesting or individualistic than your average suit marvel studios product which. I would probably agree with but surgeons losses. No No. There's remember all the lousy gangster movies too. You're putting up. Scorsese the best of those against well. I Guess Marvel would actually be the best of the superheroes movies right but whatever well. So so the so Jean. Shepard and Theodore Sturgeon proved their point which was not just that the thing was rigged but that the broken broken and you could then you could fill the slot with a novel written over the course of a night and it would. It would continue to sell like their hoax proved their point. I guess well fast forward to the fast forward ten years to the middle sixties. The New York literature set had become extremely disgruntled. By the fact that the that the bestseller list was no longer no longer populated by serious novels by serious authors. It was now there were no more books of poetry there. It was all this sort of the the sensationalist novels featuring drug-addicted housewives and particularly irked. Some people in in New York who were working for a daily tabloid newspaper called Newsday familiar with Newsday. Yeah sure news persisted into the army is still printed. It exists even now so New York City is a big enough city kind of like London where it can support multiple newspapers that end up having a more wide ranging influence than than you would you would think was possible for a small newsp- or I'm sorry local newspaper and in New York. There are a few tabloids that are modelled on the British style that are some owned by British owners right or or billions that are extremely sensationalist. They're not interested in the truth. They're interested in selling newspapers and they and they say any you know anything they can think of. Did the invention of quick date basically like the front of the paper is going to have some splashy true crime or Princess Diana scandal or something but Newsday was although a daily paper and and And designed as a round the tablet format it was a serious newspaper and was regarded as the smart tabloid in the United States. A serious newspaper that that had real journalists working for it over the years a lot of the sort of big names a Gel burr. H L Mencken. There were sort of the top tier critics because it was a newspaper. That served the Greater New York Metropolitan area. It had it had access to the to a lot of the great writers and did quite a bit of in depth journalism It was it was part of the Newsday played a role in in coverage of Watergate like somewhat instrumental role in Watergate and also was one of the newspapers that that that took a stand against the Vietnam War duck during the sort of mid sixties. It was actually edited by Bill. Moyers who had been who had been a speechwriter for for Kennedy and Johnson and Bill. Maher IS OF COURSE. We know as a as a later day television person. Ubs type PBS journalist but he was the editor it was An and they famously published the writings of John. Steinbeck in the late sixties we talked about we talked about this phenomenon in our last episode. Steinbeck had been a famous and revered liberal throughout the amid part of the twentieth century. A real new dealer who by the sixties found himself on the wrong side of politics believing he was still a liberal believing he was still a everyone else changed. He was the AL CAPP of this story and he wrote a series of articles. He actually traveled to Vietnam Steinbeck. This is after travels with Charley. This is after his Pulitzer Prize. These are travels where the the difference early he added. Curly don't serve. He went there and sent a send a whole series of articles back from Vietnam basically one hundred percent supporting the LBJ cheerleading. The war narrative. The didn't notice that's really interesting. Yeah he believed in the the domino theory and he traveled with the troops. He had. He's in bed. He had a son that was there fighting in Vietnam and wrote these a wrote these these missive 's and they were extremely controversial at the time because the public opinion was beginning to turn against the war. And certainly the liberal public opinion had turned against the war and the idea that Steinbeck this literary giant Fan. Yeah who had you know who had written the dust bowl depict the moral authority of the Depression? Right had become a hawk and and like Al Capp believed he was still on the right side of history and in fact those those writings of Steinbeck were suppressed They appeared in Newsday. And then we're never again never compiled and published. I think his STEINBECK's whitlow wanted nothing to do with them. A lot of people in the Steinbeck can't believe they tarnished his legacy and it was only during the Obama Administration that the collected pro-vietnam work of Steinbeck was was published as a as a single volume steinbeck in Vietnam. Probably just as a Curio for. It's interesting because he did. He made the transition. My Dad did which was by the by the time by nineteen seventy steinbeck realized his mistake and ended up understanding I think partly under the influence of his son who had fought their came around to an anti-war point of view. I guess I never thought about it. It must have been a lot of the kids coming home. That changed their parents. Mind Yeah just I think and also watching the war depicted on television. I think got to people of that. Greatest generation who you know kind of couldn't believe their eyes and I think I think the consensus about his writings about Vietnam were that he was thinking allowed in the newspaper and he was indignant. But also you could. You could hear his his voice just kind of processing the war and maybe trying to explain it to himself. I mean that comes with being an authority for decades right. You just kind of assume there's going to be an audience for your musings. And sometimes they should maybe be a little more examined. There was a writer at Newsday by the name of Mike McGrady and he was sort of recruited by Bill Moyers to respond to Steinbeck ended up Reading a book called a dove in Vietnam. Anyone is a reporter and countered the steinbeck letters with with a real tough take on Vietnam and was famous for it and and a very respected writer of the time but he was also a member of this New York writing culture that that kind of couldn't believe having published a dove in Vietnam sort of couldn't believe that Jacqueline Suzanne's latest novel about housewives on pills was selling millions of copies a day. He was radicalized by so many people in his book didn't sell and so he concocted the idea with with a group of his fellow. Newsday writer. Who When you look at them in photographs they are. The classic nicotine stained fingers. They all have dark glass or dark framed. Nerd glasses and receding hairlines Tai. Hang out in whatever that bar wise you know. We missed the time when we could hang out with these growth reporters that had all gone to Vietnam. Seen it all so he went to his group of friends and he said I'm going to. We need to write a A pulp novel and I wanted to be as bad as possible. Was He hoping to just point out? How flimsy fake whole endeavor was hoping this was his way to make a fortune no he was hoping to spoof okay to spoof it and you know. I think hoping against hope that he would that this book would actually fool people. But what's popular like Mel Brooks had a late period? Hit was baseball's because people wanted to see something star wars in theaters and it was in his desire to make it intentionally bad. I think he intended that it would be received as a spoof right. I don't I don't think he really expected that the book would fool anybody. It was meant as a almost national. Lampoon style. America's High School Yearbook. And there'd be some teeth in it right if he actually didn't like these kinds of books could kind of point out the folly of. Oh yeah it was it was. It was a sneering book a few years ago during the two thousand sixteen run up to the two thousand sixteen election. I was part of a project. Where a bunch of indie rockers wrote songs about the upcoming election. I remember most of the most of the songs were biting Not Satirical they were just. They just said what they thought. Yeah just like that hate trump or whatever and I wrote a song called make America great again in the in the character of a pro-trump songwriter and all lyrics. Were just sort of what you would. It was just a song as though written by approach. Songwriter and I actually did fool A lot of people as recently as a few weeks ago it got resurrected and people are like well. What about this dark chapter in in John's musical career he wrote a trump side? That's right there. Were there. Were a lot of leftists. Who were appalled by it and some conservatives that adopted it I actually. He's got a message from someone who said. I'm an ultra conservative. I really like your shows. I know your song is a parody but I prefer to listen to it as though it were sincere. There's so little good media for these people they'll take anything can read those reilly about Paul Revere. Thanks for your service and good but but this book which was written by by this group of Newsday Writers. There were twenty five men and two women. That's probably generous for what the ratio actually would have been. These bars right They they wrote a book where each writer wrote. A CHAPTER. And the premise. Was you know kind of the flimsiest premise? That a woman will. There was a husband wife. Couple named bill and Jillian Gillian. How do you pronounce that name? It's Jillian Right G. Yeah most people say Jillian but I know I met Gillian. Flynn wants and she says Gillian wrong. Husband and wife that have a radio show billion the billion Gilly show and The their marriage falls apart but they continued to do the show and the husband is unfaithful. And so Jillian Blake or Gillian. Blake B. The the the heroine of the book proceeds to go around her long island neighborhood and sleep with everyone she can and so each each story. Each vignette is a different partner. Is Gillian man? That's right there's a there's a mobster. There's a rabbi. She's just having sex with everybody. Each chapter written by a different person. Each chapter written as poorly as that writer can muster tortured analogies terrible metaphors. I find bad writing to be hard. It's very true true bad song writing as well. Well yeah it is and in fact. When Mike McGrady was was editing the book he said he really had to work hard to to dumb. The writing down it with a lot of these writers were just too good and they couldn't stop. They couldn't stop themselves right. They once they got into it. They were actually writing fairly good writing. They publish the book under the Pseudonym Penelope Ashe and that's with an e a woman that they portrayed as frustrated housewife from Long Island. Who wrote this book? You know as part of her. She wasn't actually sleeping with everybody in the neighborhood. This was her. She's working through some things. This was her sex fantasy and they actually got a picture of Mike. Mcgrady sister-in-law's beautiful girl put her on the back cover. And they reached out to lyle. Stuart a man that we've met before on the remind me as the publisher of the anarchist cookbook right and allows Stewart. Was you know a dirty book peddler but not not like a smut book peddler but like he was the guy that wanted to publish all the books? That no one else dared. He was a friend of Bill. Gaines the publisher of a madman. Because there could have been obscenity. Trials back then right and and these were these were books that he this was the era when they were really pushing the Pushing Censorship laws pushing the First Amendment as a you know a Back in the First Amendment was something that that like. Publishers really stood up for what he would have been a test case. There's legal risking pretty stuff like that back then. And he ended up. I mean Lyle Stuart at one of the one of the downsides of being lyle Stuart as he ended up publishing the Turner. Diaries which were which was the conspiracy book that influenced Timothy McVeigh or or reputedly did enter turned out to be some kind of hoax right the Turner. Diaries are totally hoax. But Lyle Stewart was he was actually one of the original owners of one of the founders of the Ladan Hotel and Casino in Las Vegas. He published a lot of books on like how to how to gamble how to how to game the system why his books must have paid then. The business was doing pretty well for them. Yeah it was even if there is Kinda shady back a magazine ads. He published a magazine called expose. It's part of the same. The same sort of like sensationalist gossip culture and so while Stewart published published naked came the stranger. They actually it was. It was wow stewart. That in reading a Hungarian nudist magazine found a picture of a beautiful blonde girl with her back to the camera he shapely naked girl with long blonde hair and he just ripped the page out of the magazine and made the cover of the book. Hungary was behind the Iron Curtain. And they don't even have property. They're never even going to see this. We should point out that these kinds of nominally nominal media celebrating the nature of the lifestyle of camping and playing volleyball naked. We're just a thinly disguised way to market pornography. As something that was clean and Natural Right Hawkeye Pearson Mash famously had a collection of nudist magazines. Where you're playing volleyball in the sun. So the the lifestyle is just a and phony. I mean there are. There are actual nudist invented. No but as a mass culture phenomenon. It just became a way to deliver softcore pornography to people without having to be in the porn business well and there are lots of people that liked to be naked but nudism also often has like weird undertones of Spouse yeah there's also a lot of swapping I would assume anyway naked came the stranger is published and I think to everyone's surprise is a hit start selling cells thirty thousand copies. How how much awareness is there out there? That it's a spook. None Penelope Ashe is a her the fiction of hers. The sister in law actually goes out and does media. She does events yeah. She's a good sport. She's a good sport. I thought maybe they just grab your picture off mantelpiece. Didn't tell her no. She's now a bestselling author on in on the game. And you know the book is basically just the worst softcore porn you ever read. I guess that just it worked. It did expose the enterprise just as a way. Get your hands on a series of explicit pages. The don't have to have any quality viewer reader. Engagement Even good prose. Apparently well and the pros is the pros is not. It's not just Like gross depictions of sex right. It's not it's not so lurid. It's it's actively bad like syntactical e and o you know over the top Simile and metaphor. And Yeah if you are you a couple of hours gonNA ask and if you're if you're if you're sensitive to this kind of talk maybe he can. Ken's fast forward dirty this out. Let's see does it have the word bosoms? Yeah like. Here's a quote. Then he appeal then he pulled off the black net panties. There was a cellophane sound as they were peeled past her knees. A self almost like the bags of sand thing from forty year old virgin where. It's clear that this person is never removed panties with that. He thrust Gillian back onto the bed. And made a flying leap with the clear intent of pinning her down to stay. But she swerved to one side and the holy man stiffed with lust. Came Down Standard I on the bedposts for outsold two minutes. He did not rise he lay there crumpled up hissing incoherently. So it's kind of this overwritten. Purple Prose for minutes did not rise. Yeah that's right. There's a lot of like. Oh Oh oh exclamation point exclamation point you know like a half a page of it. Yeah her skin. The color of India tea at summer's end flowed nicely over a senator slender frame. A very fine line between like what would be good writing of this kind. I mean it's it's hard to parody stuff. That's already that far. Her legs were superbly. Designed the hips though trim were deceptively full like. It's the it's the stuff that you've got this in a writing contest you would you? Would you would detect that. The writer was really trying but did not have the did not have good instincts and there is. There is a An award given every year by the British magazine Literary Review for the worst sexiness in fiction of the year. And it's always funny because often it goes to a big name. Who Thought he was being. You know very modest artful right getting getting in there right edit turns out there's just no there's just no good way to right. Yeah I mean out of sex Truman capote famously said I think about Jacqueline. Susann that She wrote her sex scenes as though she'd never had sex. And I think there's quite a bit of that that parodying that here in this book too so Mike. Mcgrady decides to to reveal that it's a hoax and they're booked on the David Frost. Show Penelope Ashe is booked on the David Frost show and a lot of people tune in. There's a audiences full of of women breathlessly awaiting the appearance of their of their New Literary Star Frost. Nobody's getting into does okay. And so a frost calls out the author Penelope Ashe and instead of this calmly young writer. Twenty-five men in black suits with woody allen glasses a march out onto the stage and the and the and the two women also are there. And it's a big reveal. And they think that the hoaxes perpetrated their hoax. They proved their point that you can write a book intentionally trashy and it would be a bestseller but at the revelation book sales actually increase and share. People are talking about. The book becomes an enormous hit. Even though it's commonly understood that it was written as a whole because now we know it does two things we already knew. It could titillate housewives. It can continue to do that. Currently and now there's a new second audience that wants to snigger at the jokes but also they're getting some trashy writing to and you see came the stranger even now in vacation houses. It still has that sexy picture. Although the Hungarian photographer and his model eventually after the after the fall of the Iron Curtain came after the publisher for royalties and want. Imagine if you're somebody who in the nineties and you see the Berlin Wall Fall your first thought is oh crap. What if that Hong Gary and woman finds out but the the the sad part of the story is that Mike McGrady respected and awarded journalist and a lot of the More than a couple of the writers of the chapters of the book where Pulitzer Prize winners you know like they're quite a few lauded and respected writers. They became known primarily for naked. Came the stranger like a dove in Vietnam is not anything close to the first line on Mike McCready Obituary and he went on to kind of a continued to have an lustrous journalism career. He He is the person who popularized the word house husband or invented it interesting. He decided to take a year off and take the role of househusband as his wife. Worked and then wrote a book about it and one of these we gimmicky one year experience journalism things but became a national celebrity. Because he was her. I bet he was on donahue six times the first person to to to come out as a house accept. It didn't work stay at home. Dad caught on. Yeah right househusband never actually worked. He also ended up writing a couple of books with the Porn Star. Linda lovelace because he'd become he'd always it always been a feminist but he became kind of a radicalized feminist as a result of his experience in this world of the sort of exploitative pulp sex fiction. And these these are. These are books about the porn industry. So Linda lovelace in the eighties. She'd famously starred in deep throat and in the court in this book ordeal that she wrote with Mike McCready. She revealed that her husband had forced her to make the porn film. And it was an expose of the the CD underside of of the not unusual. There is plenty of coercion and this came out in the in the mid eighties during the Nancy. Reagan Reagan Administration Tipper Gore era. Where there was a lot of hand wringing about about darn entertainment but it was also the era when adult entertainment was exploding as a as a With the rise of the VHS. But at least Michael Linda. We're telling people they should feel about that. Yes yes and and and you know. Gloria Steinem wrote the introduction to the second book like Linda. Lovelace became a A hero of of mid Eighties Feminine Tragic. She lived a tragic life. But Anyway Sadly Mike Grady now is almost universally known primarily as the writer of naked came the stranger. He wrote a book. Afterwards called a stranger. The naked a primer of how to write dirty books for fun and profit. That's his publisher. You're saying. Hey can you do that Well but he made. He made the book a You know it's a romp about having done McCain the stranger but he was actually offered a half a million dollars to write a sequel. Wow to write a equally bad sequel. And he wouldn't do it. He didn't do it. He felt like it was beneath his dignity. I just think he should not be ashamed of. Is he still with us or is he passed on? He's done I mean. I don't think you should feel bad about if your loan. Accomplishment is a really good joke I mean. He told the joke entertained millions of people when they weren't in on it and then again when they were. That's that's hard to do. He should be proud. It is and I think it's I think if you are a serious writer or musician or artist and you're novelty song is what yeah you believe that about yourself and then you have a novelty hit or or you write a joke book. That's a hit you never can. It's rare that you embrace it and say like I'm a clown now I mean dying is easy. Comedy's hard concludes naked. Came the stranger entry to three dot. Mt Two five three eight certificate number five zero one five zero future. Ling's you know by now that John and I were not invulnerable to the pressures of our time we did not reject when Suzanne books. But we did something even trashier. We were on social media as at Omnibus Project at Ken Jennings and John Roderick specifically. I mean don't get me wrong. It's classy content. It's the best you can get on there. But it still social media we received electronic mail at the omnibus project gmail.com and. Yeah please do not send US trashy paperbacks from your from Your Beach Vacation But send us anything else you want to. Po box five five seven four four shoreline Washington nine eight one five five. That's where the omnibus project receives. Its physical mail. If you would like to donate to continue to support John. Reading dirty books that you you can do that at Patriotair dot com slash omnibus project. Hey maybe that should be a listener incentive. You'll you'll read at a certain level. You'll read of trashy novels people. I would love it. I mean not even trashy novels. I'll just straight up read transcripts of seventy s porn movies people. At least as good people fall asleep to this show. Maybe there are people for whom that would be comfort food. Your Voice Reading Reading Valley of the dolls are beyond the valley of the dolls or whatever curb breast diseases? Kief D- with excitement with bosomy excitement as he wondered socially up against the bedpost. We did not mention the future. Ling's who congregate on facebook and or read it. Look them up look them up. See what they're up to like. What could go wrong if you're in the neighborhood it's like my dad used to say about my about some like distant cousin. Oh you're in Minneapolis. Look him up. People often think that will happen. I know two people in the city. They should hang out. You can look them up. Things planned future lynx. From our vantage point in your distant past when we still copulated because there were still distinct sexes. Instead of your future where you're all hermaphrodites. All reproduction has been replaced by video games. Right you just re. Rub Your Bark against one another and and repopulate the earth or I guess. It's it's conceivable that it's just a fungus that are that the fungus among NBA's spores varies. You you you just send out spores whenever you want and maybe you get baby fungi. Depending on you know it's not even their final form. Fungi or a fungal. You don't know don't know when the mushroom gender reveal thousands really terrible not great We hope and pray that the catastrophe we fear may never come but if the worst comes soon this recording like all recordings our final word but providence allows. We hope to be back with you soon for another entry in the.

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"Thank you for listening to this. Podcast one production now available on apple. Podcasts podcast one. Spotify and anywhere else. You get your podcasts. Since nineteen eighty three eddie truck has been the voice for fans of rock hard rock and heavy metal of bestselling author host of. Tv's that metal. Shell and seven national radio shows including trunk nation daily on sirius. Xm interesting eddie offers. The world is news making interviews passionate analysis honest commentary and who knows what else so. Welcome to any drunk podcast. Welcome everybody trunk here. Time for another episode of the trunk. Podcast need is free. Podcast one dot com spotify apple. Podcast thank you for subscribing. Thank you for listening and thank you for checking out each and every week. I do greatly appreciate your listening around. The world means a lot but also thank our sponsor and our good friends at goody's headache powder and yeah. 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Were he lives in. Wales which is an encouraging sign and here in the. Us vaccine plan starting to roll out so we got a little ways to go yet but finally some encouraging signs being made about a future of normalcy. Hopefully so let me tell you about this week's podcast and of course. We want to remind you to be sure to follow me on social media at eddie trunk twitter instagram fan page on facebook eddie. Trunk calm music news on my website. There's all access page. You can hear my terrestrial syndicated. Fm show on demand which is about to go into year end mode already. Did actually will actually. Does this weekend where. I do nothing but music from one artist for four weeks in a row. We're doing rush. Were doing van halen. Were doing kiss and we're doing. Acdc this year. Of course listen to me. Every day on volume sirius. Xm channel one. Oh six if you're in america or canada you can hear me live two to four pm. Eastern nightly replaced ten to midnight eastern full shows audio-video. All that on demand on the sirius. Xm become a sirius xm subscriber in here daily rock talk and interviews with your favorite artists. Which you get here on this podcast. A tiny fraction of what i do on a daily basis over six live weekly alive. Daily radio shows throughout the week on sirius. Xm radio five on volume channel. One of six and one on monday on hair nation. All of my shows branded under the name trunk nation copious. Join me for them. If you aren't already. So like i say the interviews you here you get a tiny smattering of what i do on a regular basis there and for lack of a better term you know this is a grunge. Episode of the trunk podcast. And it's probably you know a term that i hate the term hair metal hairband and i'm under the impression that probably some of the bands don't like the term grunge that came from that era. So 'nineties rock. You wanna go with that anyway. Ironically we're going to feature members of a couple of the bands that put an end to the eighty stuff at least for a while when they came around in had big prominence ladies into the nineties because in the last week or two on my trunk nation. Show on sirius. Xm i had jerry. Cantrell and sean kenny of alison chains and stone. Gossard of pearl jam on the show. Jerry and sean were promoting their founder's award induction into the museum of pop culture in seattle. Which went off with a huge streaming event that took place about a week ago that had all these artists paying tribute to alison chains so for context the interview. You're about to hear because again these interviews happened live on my radio. Show the interview. You're about to hear happened the afternoon prior to that big streaming event airing so needless to say it has since happened and since aired and i believe you can still see a lot of it on youtube if you hear them talk about it and at the time we had this conversation we didn't know who was playing and they didn't know who was paid playing. What song in tribute to them. That is now all been figured out. Because it's happened. It's aired so keep the context and the timeline in place when you hear this and then after you hear it you can go online and you can see all the performances and see who played what from alison chains everyone from metallica guys from foo fighters to you. Name it and wilson. Nancy wilson all doing alison chain. Songs was really cool. So we'll talk to jerry sean. I about that among other things and then second stone gossard of pearl jam who is joined by a drummer by the name of matt chamberlain stone gossard is doing abandoned on the side of pearl jam that he calls to talk predominantly about but we also talk about some pearl jam stuff and we also are joined halfway through the interview by the drummer matt chamberlain. Who he's doing this other with which you'll learn all about in the interview so two interviews to major artists major bands. That had major success specially in the early to mid nineties. We start with jerry. And sean from alison chains second stone and matt stone of course from pearl jam. That's what we have for you on this week's eddie. Trunk podcast remember. I am on cameo if you'd like a personalized video. Cameo dot com profile there. I mentioned all the social media. I mentioned the radio show. I think we're ready to hear the interviews. So thanks for tuning. In on the podcast. We'll get to them right after this. 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You can see it online but we talked and had this conversation just before it aired which. It did a few hours after the conversation. You're about to hear and now these guys know who did what from their respective ban but funding the conversation on the last. Let's check it out right now. Jerry how are you. What's going on man. How things are right. Yeah all right man. On the. I think got on there too. I'm sorry jerry. Sean just rang in sean. You there. that's cool. I'm here i'm here. Hey man welcome you doing in long time. yeah. I think it was a hard rock in florida. A few years ago was probably the last time i saw you guys and so you guys play it was it was a killer show and big night tonight but before we get into. What's going on with with pop. Jerry got ask you how you doing on football season you know fabiano texts me all the time i know. He says he's drops your name. All the time is being his body on the fantasy football stuff. How's your season going. Not so good. He beat me last night. Actually three games in a row russell's on a little bit of a law leaving other seahawks were winning. That's the most important thing they're eight and three now and steelers are ten or no so real football great season fantasy football. Not so good i was. I was reading hard for your seahawks last night as a giants fan. So you did me a favor. Although of course this year this week. I've got to come into seattle with a backup quarterback. So i am not. My prospects aren't so good this this week coming up but last week you help me out so i grew up last night. You help me out. So i appreciate that. But jones out with a bright yeah. They don't know if he's going to play or not. But i think they're gonna. They're gonna sit him down and rest them for a week or so but yes at four and seven first place. so it's meaningful i. i don't do the fantasy stuff. Because i can never put myself in a situation where i would have to root against my favorite team. That's what i can't do it. I don't know how you guys doing it. And i've said that to fabriano. It's very hard for me to to process that. And get into that. But i know it's a big deal. Yeah well i mean your whole team isn't near. The team isn't playing against your team. There's it's a player off of the team or whatever and it's just strictly based on points. That really has nothing to do with. Wins or losses. Just accumulating points You're you're real fan of doesn't have have to be at threat man. It doesn't not threatened there at don't worry about it. s very. There's no scenario on the planet. Where i could see myself rooting for players on any of the other three teams in the nfc east. I just. I don't care how good they are. So that's that's my quandary. Sean do you get into this stuff too or no. I do not involved. And there's a lot of like emotion. That i i can I can flame out and get upset about all sorts of other shit. I don't really need to spend that much time on on that. That's not my top priority. But i do enjoy watching jerry and mike. Those are the two from our band that just live and breathe it and look forward to it all the time and like sometimes we're on tour and they're just got their computers out in the dressing room. They're just on it. I think that's you know love the passion behind it. I understand that but and you know the ban has a league that they put together and we'd donate things to you know it does it it. It affects them. Change thirty league and we raise money every year with yeah and while we're while we're being nuts about football actually help some people out you know which is cool. So you know they're they're they're crazy. You know fanatic thing is actually going to some good which is great. Yeah i know you guys have that big draft at the beginning of every year which is a charitable thing. so that's that's really cool So let's talk about what's going on tonight because speaking of really cool and speaking of charitable congratulations. This is awesome. You guys are being honored with the founders award at the museum of pop culture. I guess and jerry take this one first. And then we'll go to sean. I for people that aren't based in seattle and aren't familiar with this this museum and what this actually is. Can you can fill everybody in on it a little bit. Well it's a nonprofit museum. That was started by paul allen in seattle and it was originally the kind of like a jimi hendrix kind of museum. But it's kind of evolved into a much larger much larger thing with music and film and art and You know involves the kids in the community and let them be a part of it You can walk through and see all you know all sorts of of great stuff that you'll probably see like the rock and roll hall of fame or whatever and and like interactive stuff. That kids can play. And it's just a cool cool thing to celebrate you know celebrate music and And and art in and and and it's a it's it's been. It's been a fun thing. I've been a part of a few of these have been able to be a part of honoring like jimmy page and John fogerty and the doors and and one when they received award and kinda jalen their tunes to them. Which is a trip on. A on a sage and playing no quarter to jimmy page With your friends and it's it's pretty fun you know and and You know it's like you mentioned. It's a charitable event and The tonight will be no exception so You know when you're watching the thing and you see the donate button there kicking a little bit and get back to the community. Yes sean. I noticed that about this that this is anybody can watch this. And it's not a paid. We're seeing so many of these paid ticketed streams it's not one of those it's wide open for everybody to watch starting at nine pm eastern six pacific tonight but it is basically the chip jar model. People out you know being asked to drop a donation whatever you can afford in. That's that's the way it's working right. Yeah you know i mean. Obviously if you haven't noticed you may have noticed that the world's fucked up right now going on. Yeah everything's everything's a little weird. But and money's tight you know but a dollar here goes a long way you know. So it's you don't have to put in a bunch of dough. You don't put anything if you don't want to but it really helps. It goes to a good cause and keeps the art and funds things up programs for kids. You know the schools don't have music programs like they had when we were kids and all this great a lot of great work and it's a great facility. That has a lot more interesting stuff. He's got all this. If you're into sifi you know there's all this you know the terminator to the actual thing just you know or two d twos and all sorts of weird crazy hugger the evil. There's holding their doors. Nether four stuff and free cruise glove and pretty crew. You know so. There's a whore section now. There's a sci-fi section. There's the music thing. There's a lot of interactive stuff. You know it does Jim shows go on in there. It's just a really really cool. You know facility to keep people engaged in a basically. It's a it's a rich guys. Coolest man cave if you've ever seen in your life that that People go and helps raise money to keep future generations interested in the arts. And it's it's a it's cool to get an award you know we. We've got a few trinkets over the years but this one means something because it's our hometown you know and the fact that it's It it it's always like jerry said it took part in a room two hundred and fifty two hundred people you know and whoever was there was there it happened. They'd get a group of different musicians and they would play the songs of the honoree live you know. And then if the if the award recipient wanted to get up and play or not they didn't have to could some do some. Don't and you know just kind kinda happened this one evening. It was kinda cool. I've been to a few couple of two a couple of other ones but This is this is different because of covid you know they really go the extra mile and so now it kind of opens it up to everybody. Which i think is pretty pretty awesome. But you know it's a bigger undertaking especially during this time and we're really humbled by the friends and people that took their time to you know it's a lot more work to get filmed and report yourselves and get together to play somebody else's songs you know. So there's gonna be a pretty really cool. Mix of people that are putting their fingerprint on our tunes and playing them the way that they play them and we purposely haven't paid attention to any of that. 'cause i wanna see it just like everybody else tonight. I wanna watch you know. We know what we did we. We decided to take part in it so we went in everybody can back up to seattle. We filmed at the museum and and played two songs live and they filmed it and then I'm really interested to see. Who else did what what what it's all about you know. I think that's kind of cool because normally in the span were so hands on with everything. We micromanage everything. It's really kind of a rare opportunity to just look at it like what the hell is happening the lineup. You know. Metallica billy corgan. You got Corey taylor and wilson. Nancy wilson david dave navarro christine the mastodon lanigan nova celik soundgarden dudes couple of pearl jam. Dallas green got. Its shooter jennings. I mean it's just it's gonna be fun. Yeah there's there's a lot yeah it was it was it was really you know. That was our concern because they Over the last several years they've been like hey you know. Want to give you this award. And we're like cool. But we'd be touring europe. Good timing at work out and so this year we're going to be taking a year off. At least not touring or doing anything. So we're like okay. We'll do this this year to do it. Then covert hits you know and so we're like robots over and then they really stepped up and you know it took a lot of people that really get creative to try to figure out. How did it really did. How did do this. And it takes a tremendous amount of work so to pull this off. And i'm just so glad that all their friends you know hawkins and all the mastodon guide and everybody jerry mentioned actually took the time to in this crazy time to record in being filmed in awkward. You know together not together remotely. I mean i don't know what the hell they're doing fish bones in there. That's just going to be. I can't wait to see that there's gonna be some crazy ass shit. Hey jerry lemme ask you jerry. Let me ask you about somebody on this artist's roster who my audience and i was really this. This is the guy that seems to only. Come out if it's jerry. Cantrell alison chains related. Otherwise he seems to be like seeing a unicorn in the rock community and he's very missed and people would love to see him do stuff. But i was thrilled when i saw krista garm oh on here. That's that's awesome. I mean to my knowledge outside of doing some stuff with you and with the band here and there and guest appearances. I mean chris has been largely out of music. Right he's He's he's a pilot man. He's a bad ass pilot Saw him and bruce dickinson or rural in the skies. But he's still he's he's still a great musician he he's he does some really great stuff with his daughter and He played on our last record. You know and We've we've got a long friendship with him and queens. Means a lot to us you know. Look there there some of our kind of first musical heroes. Look up to you know That we're close to our generation. Like wow man. those guys are premier. You know bad ass you know and It's it's like shawn said it's it's an honor that all of these people stepped up. There are friends and and you know their friends their peers. And there are heroes. All of these guys you know got guys and gals and It's just a cool thing. I'm i'm so honored and humbled that everybody put the work in jason the director of all all the all the you know all all the clips and the the other goofy stuff we did. It's going to be fun to watch. Yeah i'll tell you. I just got excited about the because of all these artists on here including the special appearance people which we didn't even touch on i know about ninety percent of them and i'm a huge fan of all of them but degar a guy i don't know he's been out of queen's reich for a long time. I'm a huge fan and i just thought when his name popped up on here. I'm like damn that's so cool because that's a guy that if you're a fan of that stuff you just don't see or hear from all the time doing things like this. You gotta know how to lure the the unicorn out of the would i. It's taking a lot of years to be able to coax them out and you can't get them all the time it. Yeah well you know. He's up here. We have a long history is one of our deers closest friends. And the an amazing per human on every level. Kinda talk you know. He's talked to be around really. You're great and everything like that and you're super nice pretty cool crew. Whatever but then he's certainly talent and Such such a sweetheart of a of a man and a genuine. Just you know humble huge heart person and You know so. When lily. Silver susan our manager. And and a chris cornell's daughter is is gonna perform one of our songs for the first time ever and in on film and it in public and chris you know companies are so it. It's really special above the fact that you know kristen. It's lily. it should be gonna be it's gonna be going to be a fucking wet wipe tissue moment ensure have to lean on when i get to that part. That's the one part. I'm looking forward to in dreading at the time because like okay. You know this is gonna be a tough one but No man. I'm i'm looking on. It'll be cool. I mean. I think people might have sent in little atta boys you know like hey good job you snap a heads and whatever the hell they say you know so who knows what's going to go on in there. I'm gonna looking forward to well. You know you brought up an inch. You brought up an interesting point about this too. I don't remember if it was jerry sean. Which when you guys said this but it it sucks that this is all virtual because of. Obviously you'd be getting ready. I'm sure to go to this and fans and attended in the event that it is but on the other end of it because this year is so as you perfectly put it fucked up everybody available so it's not like you know when there was a reach out for this is like well. I'm on tour. I can't do it so everybody is streaming and banking stuff and recording stuff. I think that that made not to say a lot of these. Artists wouldn't wanna do this any way for you guys but i would think that made the availability factor and the access factor. Way easier to do it this way there. We saw that a little bit with the rock and roll hall of fame to some things that have been byproduct of covid the way. They've changed where some people have actually liked it better. So i mean i don't know how that all worked but his everything for this has been completely pre produced. This pre produced package that people will see. It's all done. There's no live element of it tonight. Right yeah You know it was a live thing like shawn said and it was a very small group. It was a very Normally as an intimate thing so you know in You mentioned one positive thing about a negative situation. Which is you know So many folks were available to to to do something and and to at give their time and add performances and to be part of it but And also the way that this is being put together you know. Millions of people can see this thing whereas before it'd be a couple of hundred you know so it's gonna be fun. It also opens up the The charitable Aspect of this to a wider audience too. So to get back to the museum you know so It's you know there's there's a couple of really good ellen that's about a bad thing and i think that's a good good lesson to to take. Yeah i mean we're trying to it makes them laminate man. Yeah and when we got into talking about doing trying to pull it off this way concern was you know. There's a lot of like octa box. Corentin jams stuff going on and we wanted to try to avoid that and try to make our natural higher product higher production. Show out of it if we can. You know some people. Are you know still filming. I think depending on where they are. There's people that are in different countries. You know so And i think that's cool will have a different feeling. Different look for different performances. But you know we. Jerry said jason came in a director. Who did the mac more videos. And it's done all this other stuff and he ran with it and and jumped in and took his time and trying cobble together. And so i think you know production wise. Our thing you know is live. we're playing we're playing live but they all the cameras and stuff you. We've been around a minute. You know we made a lot of videos show. Tv shows stuff and usually there's people walking around the camera. This is all remote skeleton crew like little remote cars driving around with cameras on them and and bins that are computer operated and stuff. You know it's like it's really semi bizarre like to do it this way and you get you know all these other people that take the time to do that. It seems like yes. There's a lot of people probably at home but not a lotta people with that can record them get recorded to. It sounds good you know. They're all professional musicians. They don't want to sound like ass. And and you know and be able to represent you know what their vision of the song is the way they want and then be able to film it where they don't stupid you know. I mean they're entertainment professionals. So it's it's a higher level than you know. Hey it's a quarantine jam you know. It's just a little it's gonna it's probably gonna have a little higher production value than that and that's kind of something that we originally thought because you know if we're gonna do this thing let's try to make it as cool as possible and that was the concern. You know who who can do this. Who can pull it off. And so we reached out to some people and just overwhelmed by how many people just found the will and the way to do it. You know take on. That would be like yeah. We'll do it. Like jesus christ. Thanks so we'll see maybe it'll suck. What did we watch it. And it's always that you know you're like read you. Because i'm pretty sure it won't cause i think somebody would have been it tips off by now since its later today that they're going to you guys be prepared for the thing. Maybe talking about us. Don't answer phones for a few days to know no nothing neither. Neither of you guys know nothing like you haven't seen it you said you you don't want anything you know. The we know the bare minimum. We've seen a little bit of snippets of what what folks have sent in. And you know. I think sean i we're you know we're we're we're as much as we are to individuals. Were really a lot of like so like i think we both had the same kind of feeling of like you know. Kind of kinda like wanna to be surprised by yourself. You know and Instead of like doing it like a normal. Alice stuff where we're we're knee. Deep in at all the way to the end you know every single detail but So it's kinda cool. I'm excited to surprise. We see we kept ourselves mostly in the dark. You know a little bit Shielded from what's going on. And i and i i'm going to. I'm looking forward to to Really meaningful and humbling and fun thing you know. Yeah i mean. I mean the thing i would take part in. It's like okay to the ad map thing is looks right you know. And and then we you know Made them send us one thing you know. We have to make sure we didn't sound like shit both didn't look stupid. You know so our performance part we you know we all wait in angry like cool. You know for cool with it and You know make a tweak here and there like cut to the camera you know. Try not to focus on. Mike goiter too much. I know she's a little more me a little less goiter but Camera little higher please. Yeah shooting from the low so great but the guys such a good idea. Yeah that yeah we did. I mean we did. That's about all i've seen haven't really you know paid attention anything else. I know some people are have sent a few things dallas green. And i did see. I'm not gonna lie. I watched his killer. But that was one one of the ones i did see. It's pretty chilling. Yeah yeah and so And after did that. I was like okay. I need to That's that's what. I kind of realized i was earlier in the process. You know he's pretty quick to get thing done and send it out. And and i was just kind of. I think that's sort of where i was like. I don't wanna see anymore. You know. I i i wanna i wanna i wanna be surprised because this just blew my fucking brain out and look forward to while i'm stuck in my house with my dog and three fish fucking locked down call of duty with elite to all right. We'll everybody can watch this specific nine eastern tonight and it's totally free. It is a donate situation which of course if people can are in a position even barker to and seen that model work i mean a lot of people are ticketing their streams now but for the really big artists with the really big name value. And you've got not only yourselves but obviously the people that are paying tribute to you. Massive acts doing it creates so much so much traffic when it's wide open everybody that that usually generates a lot of money. So let's hope that's the case tonight because of the website you can donate and the website is mo- pop dot org for all the information about this. Mo dot org and you can see it's on the facebook page it's amazon music twitch channel. It's amazon music app. it's completely free to watch it. And then obviously if you can help out the museum kicking a buck or two or whatever you can afford. That would be great guys. Do you know if it's going to be archived. So people listening can't watch it in that time window of nine eastern tonight. Will they be able to watch it. A few hours later on demand i assume We live in a digital age. And i will. It will be on youtube and all over the place for the rest of our lives for all time as long as there's That seems to be how things work. No matter what you do somebody takes it puts. It puts it there. So i'm i'm you know at this as the first place through mo- pop and everything i think it'll be there. Maybe i'm not sure maybe they'll leave it up for a bit. You know for people to come back and watch it. But i'm sure it'll get recorded and dumped right on youtube and everywhere else but somebody sent me a semi a pop page where they had in past performances. You could pull up song by song. So i would assume this would be the same hair before i let you go jerry any update. You can give on on what you guys. Have you been able to work on. Allison chains music during lockdown. Have you have you guys gotten together or are you doing anything. Virtually as far as recording like like shawn said we we we we. We actually planned on taking a europe. We we the The this this kind of thing that happened to us all kinda hit a window where we planned on being off so We're just waiting to see how this pans out and plays out Obviously a lot of people are affected. We we're we're we're pretty blessed and lucky to to to you know where we are while we're all weathering this together but as you know You know we're part of a community that relies getting people together to to work and have fun. You know so We're just we're just seeing how this all plays out you know and hopeful hope for the vaccines and and we don't want we don't want to Go back to work. Until it's safe to work. And i don't think anybody will so i'm kind of thinking we're going to be off again for about another year can also. Yeah so you guys aren't to kind of ban that would record and pass files around. And you do see bans making records like that because of the quarantine some people going in and getting tested and actually going into studios as far as creating new stuff. You'd rather just wait till things are back to normal. We just haven't talked. We're just kinda plan on taking a year off and jerry was going to do. He had a solo thing. He wanted to do what was going to go do his thing and starting up on that and so it was kind of a plan to take time off and people go do whatever they wanted to do. You know do their own deal and then and then everything that just gotta shut down. So we're just kinda jump. Doesn't shed those things down to a degree and so we haven't really had a discussion of if when where what why. But i would assume probably from just by point by odds that you know like jerry said i don't think we're going to magically be okay to go back and everybody get back to the life they had before within the next year. Maybe by this time next year. You know if there's enough vaccine and stuff. I mean we're our our entertain. Our industry is you know is completely existent upon people having disposable income a little extra dough to buy ticket or something to go see something and then cramming many people as you can as close to you would ever size venue. You can fill what people over pack it so it is the worst situation. Probably have anything to in like. They're not like the small small small club owners the cruise. i mean. There's so many people miss that that are really just they got nothing man and it's It's it's it's You know something where that We're looking forward to getting through but in the meantime like a lot of people that you don't see besides the artists that the prop up and and make sure that we're able to do what we do. Those people are taking it taking the teeth. Then you know. Yeah now. I talk about it all the time on this show and we can only hope that we're on the other side of it. Sooner than later. I also was blown away recently to realize that the thirtieth anniversary of facelift is next year or year. Whatever the release date is but next year now neck. You've got there this year. So you gotta you gotta special deluxe edition coming on this. That looks incredible. It's coming out the next month right. January yeah. I mean it's coming up next year this early next year january. Twenty on of things you know. We're really big on capitalizing and marketing thing. Like the kiss of grunge. And i'm so we're on top of everything and so you know. Were joking on that because years thirty year deal you know so we never did twenty. We've just kinda shied away from all the things that you normally and everybody seems to do the twentieth anniversary. Their twenty fifth. We just thirty when it gets the thirty jury kinda like holy shit. It's been thirty and then like you gotta see almost kind of do that now eight. It's great for the fans. I don't know you know. We have no really valid reason why we didn't do it before but you know at the same time it's like god damn we've been doing this for thirty five years together like holy shit. You know it's like it's such a such a huge number. They kind of kind of you know you better pay respect to this stuff because you know there's people who still care about it so much thirty years later that care about it like we do is just kind of when another humbling mind blowing moment in need on part of your kind of oh i can remember bits and pieces and i still have some of the same shoes you know but from back then you know i still have a pair of boots that i still were once in a while from back then but it's You know on the flip side. It's thirty years is a long damn time. Yeah should be commemorated you know. It's what you guys mentioned kiss. I was just thinking that. I saw you guys at tiger stadium on the first kiss reunion. Show open for that. What was that. What jerry i remember. Now correct me. If i'm wrong because that's coming up on twenty five years but did you not play or the band. Play like a couple kiss rifts during the breaks in your own songs and people got heated about it. I remember you guys playing like. do you recall that. what do you remember about. That is what. I recall There may there may have been. There may have been a river to but i think the real thing was when sean decided to come out front and And seeing beth acapella. Sean is a fantastic drummer. He's got a great. I am business sense. Very artistic but He's not a great singer is not a great fan so kinda roseanne barreda nationally. Thefts in a man you just. They get they weren't digging the humor of it apparently whole stadium. Sixty thousand people really boo and yeah really loud when they do that and i do remember the who didn't really like it even more than that. Was peter crisp. I've got a little problem with it with peter about that. He was a little bump. But also the under inflatables of each dude on two on each side of the stage and I was the very first show. So there was some technical stuff you know that it was really magical ingredient. Great and then. There's like anything that big of a undertaking. Some technical stuff stuff wasn't working right but like one of one or the inflatable ships must had a hole in it. They kept trying to blow it up and we'll down. I can't remember which guy was and it was there was some. There was some amazing stuff that went on on those shows that Pretty fun for the one. The one guy's inflatable not blowing up could have derailed the whole reunion tour right at the first show. That guy could have thrown the fit that his inflatable wasn't up and that could have blown up the whole reunion right there. Yeah the reason we take each after us doing our thing right. I remember laying. Also said you know 'cause people are paying it like kiss characters we're the makeup and everything and lead them between songs looks at the audience. He's like what the fuck with people hooking come. Nobody's painted to look like me interface to look like me and they're all like you know. And then then. I had a little more gas on the fire. But hacking best and yeah. We probably play assume that there was some rifts of their songs in between jerry knows bunch of kitsch tunes and but i may have done playing remember leaving the stage and they were getting ready to go on and they're all standing there in their monster costumes and everything and they're like. Hey how's the show. I remember just looking at them. Because i was in the kiss army when i was a kid. You know i believe that. They're fucking from space and shit you know and and for you know had a brief window when i was young when i was like. Oh my god you know you know. I just couldn't handle it. I remember looking at. I'm just going. I can't do this in and it's just like orbit it's like oh what you're you're back into. The you know it was it was it was a pretty cool thing man and they were they were throwing on. We went out to the soundboard to watch them and it was like it was like being transported. You know back to being in that can and it was was so cool. You know it. Would you know the first show the first show of the tour. you know. there's a couple of things like shawn said or working out. You know like us takes a couple of gigs. The band tight and all that but they were good. But but You know i. I remember specifically in our. I think we all had had the same experience you know looking at each other. Like fuck man this. It's like it's like being eleven twelve years old again. You know like you know like in the semi sister had it tastes one of the things you wanna do that you know and we just played in front of him you know i remember standing on the chair and being back in high school again and love and life and it was. It was quite an experience. Hey guys. I'm almost out of time here but i appreciate the time and i congratulate you and the band and all the guys on on this honor tonight again. Alison chains getting the founders award. The museum of pop culture. Everybody can tune in and watch it. It's totally free nine eastern six pacific. It premieres tonight. Moe pops facebook page amazon music twitch channel amazon music app and the list of artists performing. Who's who of rock. It's going to be amazing. So enjoy the telecast you guys into again congrats and i hope i get to see in person sometime soon. Yeah man thanks for having me anytime guys. Thank you sean kenny jerry. Cantrell hope to see you guys soon. Take care okay. Bye-bye well thanks to stone. 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I think going to be joined by matt chamberlain who plays drums and painted chill. But i just saw text from him saying as his internet hotspot went down so scrambling with something. Maybe we'll maybe he'll show up. Hopefully he makes it in when he does. We will We will welcome him in you know in the last hour i was just raging. Why at a calmed down. And so i was raging my audience last couple of days about some of these awards shows and the grammies and these these organizations which they so blatantly. Don't have a clue about rock music and these random awards that are given out not to put you on the spot here but pearl gyms one a lot of awards in your history and your career. But what's your take on all that. How do you feel about it do you do you do you ever go into you. Have to name names but never go into these some of these things where you feel like. Oh i'm just sort of we're sort of token rock band being represented here I can be cynical. There's no question about it you know. There's there's you know some of the organizations there. They can be self serving but you know organizations. Descend to be self-serving. That's just their nature in general. You know you start something and it and it and it may have the best intentions of why it was started or how it started and then you know. The focus can narrow down through the things that the people in management sorta want to cover. So you know. The grammys are all that i mean. There's you know certainly there's a lot of things about the grammys that are great and You know i know that. They have represented some incredible music And they've probably done their best but I don't take the award show stuff too seriously. I think it would be great if there was a really great Rock and hard rock or I think i think you should start it. I think i'll back it up. I guess wellstone you know what i mean people. You're not the first person who said that over the decades but it's a little easier said than done but a man is it. Is it needed now. More than ever when you see what went on with the american music awards the other day and and now the grammy nominations when it comes to rock and metal it's it's sickening but i'm not gonna pull you down that rabbit hole before we get into talking about painted shield. Let me ask you this. I was telling you just before we came on the air that you're you're you're guitar partner in pearl jam. Mike mccready is a good friend has been on my shows for years and our bond is not only over you know love of music but he and i both grew up huge fans of kiss and ufo. And that's how. I got to know each other and have the passion for that stuff. Are you cut from the same cloth. As as mike in terms of your influences in the stuff you were into earlier as a kid you know. I think he was always more dedicated. Hard rock. I mean in a certain way so he probably turned me onto kiss. And pro you don. I probably got into kiss. I got into kiss when they were kinda terrible and let it. I didn't i was too old or too young to get into them when they were really great. And then sort of as they sort of you know we're trying to you know. Unmasked era You know I missed them. I just didn't get it. But it wasn't until i was to listen to punk rock and stuff like that that you know all of a sudden it was like. Oh yeah by the way. Old kiss and alice cooper in an and you pop and All these bands from the early seventies that were pretty wild or suddenly kind of being talked about in the same sentence as you know the dead kennedys. Are you know or you know. Whatever the motorhead iron maiden you know that sort of you know that jon rao would ever so Mike mccready is always had much more knowledge. And i'm a. I'm a little bit of a late comer but i do love hard rock and i always have so well. You're not the only one who didn't get the unmasked error. Which referenced saying that was not the that's not in a not a unique position to be in crete but creatures of the night. I was back. I said yeah. I said you know so i i was in at that point but i love the you know kiss. The live is is is just so good. I mean it's just you know you can't deny his prowess you just can't you. Can you can complain about them. But you just can't deny the well. You and mike has a ufo tribute band. Were you on the ufo. Kick it all. Did he get you in ufo at all. I always loved. I loved you from back in the day and he probably helped get me into it but the you know strangers the night or whatever lights out. That era is like it's it's beyond you know the musicianship and the songwriting and michael schenker and talking about why leave. And what did he do after and like how he should stay and so we're trying not to make you know. I hope my doesn't quit because we don't want our michael schenker to leave us. That's it'd be a be terrible for furniture. Msg group or whatever it is that he was in this all right. So let's talk about painted shields. This is a really interesting band. And i guess project for lack of a better term. You you actually. I introduce some music from this banned a song or two a while back and then seemingly the fans kinda sat for a bit. And now you've got a full length record coming on friday correct. That's right yeah. I think friday's the day comes and mason mason. Jennings is the singer and a songwriter. An antagonistic solo artist and has been making records for quite a while and he was His manager the time who's an old friend of mine introduced us and said you know mason was interested in doing some collaborative writing. I've got demos for days. I got piles of songs. That i write and i sent him a few things and the first thing he did was right knife fight so i sent in the music for knife fight and he sent me that back the track as is and basically how it sounds now And so we were kind of often running and then it kind of you know reality set in and you know life got between us and finishing some stuff and some of the other songs took a little bit more work to kind of get done and we took a couple of years where we didn't really talk to each other that much. And then we ended up Sorta kinda revitalizing kinda gone okay. Well let's we have these songs which we do and over the last three years we just got a knocked it out and And i think. I'm glad we took the time with it. Having matt chamberlain write songs and be part of it was an enormous boost Brittany davis keyboard player and she also sings a lot of Harmony and backgrounds on the on the record really adds another dimension. Her keyboard playing is amazing. Man who's the mic sir Fantastic over to him and said you know. Treat it like you're in the band. John congressman congress. And just you know turn stuff off and turn stuff up and edited and did a bunch of stuff to it and we were like great. Yes we like it so It was a it was a sort of a fun Pretty open process of of just seeing what it takes to put something together that that you don't know the parts how it's all gonna fit together and you've got to kind of make it up and see see. See if it works. You mentioned that it was revitalized. After you put out knife fight recently was that being was the band and the record being revitalized due to the pandemic was at the fact that you guys put out gigaton for jam and then all of a sudden you can't do much with it because of the pandemic was that the opportunity revisiting. I think we were pretty close to the end zone with painted shield at that point and So the pandemic did sort of kind of get us across the finish line in the mixing. And i see matt now haina chamberlain trauma matt. Hey matt wroclaw song on On painted shield called. I am your country and that was only about six months ago so He added a couple of tracks to the record to flesh out the whole record Right at the last minute so we were finishing stuff in kobe but about ninety percent of it was done before that so it was parallel with big time. We're doing some stuff. Negate time ago. You know pro was off and on through that whole you know. It took us for years to make that record so And it's only you know fifty minutes of music so for years fifty minutes. Was it rough to have gigaton. Come out and then not be able to see it through with plans. You may have had for for supporting it. Because of the pandemic i mean a little. I mean i think everyone was disappointed but the scheme of things we're gonna you know we'll be we'll we'll place chelsea again. We're gonna play these songs. it's all gonna work out. You know we just kind of delayed gratification It was a little frustrating. In the sense that we'd already rehearsed and kind of like this is something good. This is going to be great for excited. And and then it sort of you know It was taking it right up to the moment before we knew that we weren't going and And then it was And then we've been here ever since in our houses with funny hats and sweat and sweaters. That's what might macree joke by the way if you have sweatpants and sweater than you really given up because what you trying to make it. Look nice up. Top ans- blazer blazer on for this young man you that matt looks professional the three of us. I mean i'm hoodie. And unshaven matt. Looks like he's talk show host. He looks he doesn't have any pants. Don't well as long as you're not like that guy at cnn you've got busted way with himself. Zoom call your own good but for the grace of god. I mean every person can kind of go. I haven't ever done that specifically. But i've done something that could have been interpreted that and my left my zoom on. That would be matt before you joined in. We were talking to stone and of course everybody knows stones background with pearl jam. And all that but for you you've played with some interesting people have a pretty storied history as well as drummer whether it be live stuff and session stuff but for people. That aren't familiar with your work can you. Can you give the reader's digest version of your story as a drummer in a musician. I started off playing in bands in texas. Where i was going to college and my first ban was with eighty cal. New bohemians remember that. of course Yeah and then you know we broke up. And then i was kind of a free agent after that and just started playing with lots of different people started getting called to do records and then i got called pearl jam for a little bit around that time and it was great to. Yeah i mean that was like nineteen ninety nine hundred eighty nine ninety and then Lived new york for a year or so and then moved to seattle to continue. My my explorations in music can and just being a freak because it was easy to be a frequency back then. It was affordable to live there and so matt with everyone i mean. He's he's played on. Bowie records and fiona apple records and tours. Peter gabriel dylan toured with dillon to. He's bob dylan's drummer right. Now he played on the record. Oh wow yeah. We just did a tour in like a year ago. Exactly you're on the road and then we did. The new record at the top of the year and now shows is a soundgarden drummer to. What's it like to work with dylan. I like stone. Just want you explain. What a resumes. Unbelievable what it will let me ask you want. give me some. Tell me what. It's like to work with dylan and was like the late. Great david bowie. What were those experiences like. Or dylan you're still doing of course. Yeah well the dylan saying was you know. The tour was very last minute. I played with them for a couple of days. He wanted me to tour like literally. It was like a three day window and he asked me to hop on this tour and so we did like six weeks and then got back and after the first year we started his record and that was an education because he is so last minute in the moment about the way he makes his records. It's almost like a plane with jazz musician or poet jazz musician because he's always changing it up and it's just anything can happen at any time. You know things could just get trashed and we can do a whole new version of a song. And he's he's he's down so Just come he came in with lyric. She's right so he's got the leary. Much kind of mini. Just he'll just start. Playing right and kind of navy has some chords and maybe they change in play. Yeah you might have a reference point for like a groove or feel or something and then we just kind of jam on that and he'll start trying to sing over it and then we'll you'll get on the piano and like add some extra accords and we'll just kinda work out the arrangement and the next thing you know. We tracked his on. You know it's it's pretty fun. Yeah and then bowie. The bowie thing was very interesting because it was just him. And i and tony visconti the producer and tony was playing bass and every day. You know we were at the studio that was in the catskills so it was like one of those residential studio. There's nothing to do but just be there and Every day bowie would wake up because his kid was there. He had like a newborn baby at at the time. This is like night Two thousand one. I think and He would wake up with this kid. And then start. Writing a song. I scramble around eleven ish and he'd have like a basic idea down. Then i put drums on it and tony would play bass And we just did that every day for like two weeks Was that was that. What record was that did that. Come out it out as as even record called key then after that call reality so we tracked a lot of music. So the music's Didn't work for even that he didn't finish used on reality. Yeah i mean he also he was also very last minute didn't Just was coming up with stuff on the spot. You know you would think that he'd have all this stuff preplanned but it was always at least to me. It seemed like it was on the spot. Maybe he had all this stuff in his back pocket and he would you know. I don't know but it seemed like it was all very in the in the moment. It's to the case for long. These guys from this era that i've experienced because i've also done stuff without and john and he was the same way like bernie top hand and some lyrics and within a half hour he'd have a song written and then we'd start recording. It must be something about that spontaneity and of course there are many of those guys they go back to the days when studios were really expensive to be in and if you had a lockout in the studio and you were in there for a long time to write in the studio could be really expensive but then again with their history and their resumes. They're able to do that. I mean they're used to that now. It's not such a big factor because most of these folks have their own studios. Or what have you but you think about know back. In the day the way it was done to write and do pre-production in a recording studio could be a really expensive proposition. Yeah yeah back then. It was a big deal but it just seems like their attitude. I'm talking you like the the dylan's and the just their general attitude towards making a record seem so free and open. And maybe it's because they had done so many records at the point that i worked with them but they were like earlier on in her career but it just seems so like they're ready to try. Anything drummer matt chamberlain and guitarist stone. Gossard together they have a band called painted shields. The full length debut album is coming out on friday. So let me bring it back to you here stone for you. What what are the things that you most looking forward to doing with. A band like painted shield. You said you right all the time. What what were you looking to accomplish with this band that you maybe couldn't bring pearl jam or couldn't do and pearl jam just the volume of music you write. Was it just stuff. That you knew wasn't going to be the right fit for that band. I think it's i think it's just doing creative projects i love. I love you know writing songs. And i like finishing and some you know pearl. Jam got five riders in it and we put a record out every three or four years. So it's you know there's opportunities to do stuff outside of that. I didn't have a idea of what we knew. When i fights on a good to us right off the bat but we didn't know what the rest of the record should sound like so I just threw some ideas that mason. That was kind of the variety of stuff that i kinda right and and he kept the kind of stuff back. It sounded good to me And then towards the end of it we knew that okay. That's u2 And now how can we make it feel like a real band. And i think that's where we started. Really you know communicating more with matt and saying one met you want to be part of this and to. Do you have any songs as matson. Incredible songwriter arranger. You know player as well and coaxing subtracts. Out of him turned out to be the best thing that we did because he wrote our first single. It was the last thing we wrote. In the first song we put out. And he's he's played us a few more sense fan. And so we're already working on record number two with some mat tracks and It's it's it's just been fun to add on layers that really sort of make it Original towards the end. And i think brady davis is the same. It's like her voice and matt's Songwriting and his his playing really sort of made it a three legged stool rather than two legged stool as a fun way to make a record two. Because it's just we're just throwing ideas back and forth and we can record them so it's not like we're just in a rehearsal space and you try stuff and it just goes into the air like this we can actually down on the hard drive or whatever and then just send the idea around then it gets worked on. It's it's actually really creative. It feels time and time saving. Because it's yeah we we can kind of doing it. You get an email and maybe you'll listen to it this week but then you when you hear it the next week when you actually have time. You're like oh my god. This is great. I gotta get something done on this. So it's it's been a fun fun process during the would be nice. Oh sorry it's nice to play together with everybody eventually or that. Well that's what i was gonna ask you about because during the commercial break matt gave us a little tour of his studio in l. a. Which has all kinds of cool drums everything going on. So obviously you guys are all. You have your own schedules. Matt you play with a bunch of people stone normal times pearl jam stuff going on but weren't when you made this record. Were you able to all get in the same place at the same time to do it or was it passing around files and a lot of emails and that sort of vibe we. We've never been in the same room together. Mason my been in the same room together once but other than that and mad. I recorded a couple of a couple of the demos that ended up being on the record. We recorded together studio litho but like ten years ago. I at least i mean maybe even more i think that was twenty fourteen because i remember being on the road with soundgarden and i had a and i went up to retract. Dressed up ten years ago that was when mats in seattle. I always get. I tried to get together with them. When we usually try to get in the studio and i always have a couple of things that will play together and then they just go on a hard drive and then normally nothing happened so as i was looking back through my files. I'm like oh there's this and this and this has mad on it and this is cool and and you know he's really just the qatar and drum track or maybe it's got one little thing and We i just kept bouncing back ideas and he just kept coming up with this great stuff and and we plugging through it. but it wasn't an instant process. It was definitely One step four two steps back wants to forward kind of figuring out. We didn't know that it was going to be a record. You know it until really right towards the end and we didn't know what was going to sound like. The sound of the whole thing changed dramatically in the last six months. So it's really just the fun a circus. You know something to do yeah. John carlton's addition to when he was mixing with the arrangement adding some electrons. Here and there. Oh yeah game stuff. It's a very. It's a very eclectic record. There's a lot of different things on it. There's a lot of different sounds on it and then you've got track like evil wins. Which is you know blake you know. Great one of my favorites are on the record. Is that what you were going for. Stone guitar player to show a lot of different sides of you're playing. Are you a guitar nerd that loves getting into effects and different tones and things like that like where were you going is a guitar player with this. Know i tend to be i like. I'm my guitar. Playing is a lot like finger painting and playing in the sandbox. It's i don't know what i'm doing. And i'm just kind of trying different things. And just if i stumble onto something that i get excited about. I'm i've got a pretty good capacity. Kinda remember it and you know store it so i can bring it out for a rainy day and evil winds as a riff that i wrote probably again at least twelve years ago. Maybe the oldest rip on the whole thing And i kind of had a demo out of that floated around it. Just nothing ever happened with it. And i i played it for mason and we worked through it. A couple of different vocal approaches. And then you know when britney dave has got a hold of its she really is kind of code singing in that whole song with them And playing the be three on it really giving it that even heavier kind of blues Feel I'm glad you like that. One eddie that's one of my favorite ones to it's. It's one of my favorite risks on the on the record and if you can tell us you have some guests on this record. Did you brought in some different people on some stuff. You run those down for everybody. Yeah josh freese plays drums on. I think three other tracks. So he's phenomenal and lovely always like working with him Hans toy seattle saxophonist Flute claire like great. Jeff fielder Guitar player here in seattle. He plays on. He plays that sit parcel on knife. Fight it so wicked. Lonnie marshall plays bass on ten years from now which is a lying. Marshall played in the weapon of choice and his loose old school. Loose group band guy with With his music So there's definitely there's definitely some some good guests and did i read correctly that mccreevy's actually on a track on the record. Oh yeah mccreadie. Plays a solo on On the level and he also plays a solo on evil wins that's his slide solo on evil wins. Oh nice okay. Very very cool and jeff and jeff plays bass on on the level as well. So do you guys. I mean i. It's the same old story for every band interview. The idea would be to you. I'm sure you'd love to be able to go out and play some of this live with the record coming out on friday. Nobody knows when live shows can come back although there are pretty strong indicators and we're starting to see stuff go on sale for towards back end of the summer even in the middle of next summer what what would what would your ideal situation be. Especially you know matt given your schedule and the different people you work with stone given what may or may not become for pearl jam. How would you like to balance this. Do you think when the pandemic clears you could effectively go out and tour and play live. We're gonna. I think we're going to play in the parking. Lots of the schwere matt's blang with villain we'll play in the parking lot so and then so metal have to do double duty and let me so. I can go but i like ready early so fun. I don't. I don't wanna play at eight o'clock who've too late. When do you think we'll hit the road now. Twenty twenty two two weeks or the shows then sometime next year maybe the beginning of twenty twenty two But i'll maybe new york for a at theater for two or three shows and or maybe a couple of festivals in europe. And i mean i. It's gonna be fun. This band is so good. I mean you know. I'm not talking about myself. Just talking about technically like everybody else is going to be so ready to play songs without having too much rehearsal that we should be able to kind of whip it up pretty quickly and housing record funny rap we will. We will have a record. I think by june of next year. I hope so. Hey matt i have another idea. Stone is talking about jumping on your dylan gig with this. What about the other way around. What about stone doing double duty and putting painted shield on before some pearl jam days. Oh yeah that'd be nice. I'm gonna talk about that. I think it's that might be more than i can actually handle. I don't know that and an hour painted seal. I might put a weight on sort weighing on like a a white suit or something for the pain. You know pearl. Jam takes a lot of days off so he could probably play a gig. So we're on as i'm touring two with pearl jam so anything's possible. Yeah all right. Well we'll we'll see we'll see what happens going forward. But i think it's a really cool record. There's a lot of cool sounds on it. There's a lot of cool things going on it and you know i wish you luck with it. And what is the reaction. Been so far because you have put a couple of songs out and there's a few videos online as well. What is the reaction been from. The i guess. The immediate people gravitate towards this stone would be pearl jam fence. We know how passionate and rabid they are about all the projects that all the members do. What's been the early feedback that you're getting in advance of the record coming out. I mean only hear good news in general. But that's you know that's just the way nobody's telling you. Hey your record sucks man Now i think i think i think people are digging. It are the most exciting that we got a four star review. Mo- job two days ago so that to me if the if the english if the english say records okay then that's always helpful because they're hard please so we're we're happy with that and But the bama society about where. We're just have fun and We're just gonna keep making music and see what happens and if you can can you give the on. Is there anything you can tell the audience about future pearl jam fans plans rather and he plans you can share that are are in the discussions as maybe things start to get ready to come back next year. I mean think all the dates that we had we cancelled. They're all getting getting rolled into the next year. So we've gotta make up all the gigs that we missed the start out with and they're all you know we're gonna be out there as soon as we can do it safely So we've got a lot of makeup gigs to do and we're gonna do that. And i think that they'll at some point we'll do some stuff from our studio. I'm i'm sure we'll do something live from our you know from our warehouse studio at some point we haven't got there yet. but You know gigaton a great. I'm so excited about that. Records great record. And i can't wait to go out and play shows for it's gonna be it's gonna be awesome. Yeah unfortunately i think there's a lot of artists like yourself like pearl jam that have made great records and i think to some degree. They've gotten a little lost in this whole pandemic thing because you properly promote them the way you wanted to so. I think you're going to see people finally getting a chance to promote those records and then also potentially i've talked to a lot of artists and you guys referenced. It at least with painted shield that you actually could have a second record created in the pandemic that could come right on the heels of it. I mean there are a lot of artists that were holding records back from release when the pandemic topping and then said the hell with it. Let's just get this out. Because i'm already working on another one and you're gonna see a ton of music and a ton of live shows all come crashing out once the allegations open. It's going to be nuts. There'll be some real joy. There's going to be a lot of people. Saying how. Could i have ever complained about what i do for a living ever. Doubt all right before i let you guys go matt. We referenced a few the people you've played with from dylan currently two bowie some others. That scared me at the second. Sure we just talked about and then stone. I look at your history and of course obviously pro. Jim mmediately comes to mind. But you've also been in band other great front eddie vedder of course but other great frontman in singers. Like andy would. You'll chris cornell. Can you give me a matt. Maybe starting with you and stone can think about this for a second. Can you give me a favorite experience so far as a musician of a favorite moment with some of these legendary people that you shared a stage with is there a show. Is there a moment. Is there a story that jumps out that you can share with the audience about working with people like this. I mean for me personally. I think it would be. It would be making mir ball with With neil young having neil young call call our band and say hey you know pearl jam i i got some songs i wanna come up and do them with you. And we're like okay. That sounds great and it's like well any can do some. But i really just need the band because i'm gonna be singing. And so okay. Let sounds and then he would. He would just write songs at night at his hotel and he would show up the next day and they would be classic. Neil young songs. You know you cords not that many and He would show him to us and we'd all be scrambling to kind of go. Okay i think. I know what that is. And he'd say okay here we go go and we play it twice. And then he go kick done. And then we'd move onto the next thing and we made a record in four days like that which it sounds a little bit like that. I mean it's it's it's a little haphazard but to have somebody like that and to experience his power in the room recording with him and playing these simple chords and just him saying. You guys have something that i like and i wanna do this. What you guys that was maybe one of the highlights of my life for sure. That's a pretty. It's a pretty good Holy shit moment right there. Not before we throw it to you real quick can you. Can you share with the audience for for a second stone to something on on on an sherwood. Because i i always felt that if he he he was he could have been especially with the mtv and the videos and everything that that he brought to the stage he could have really been next level rockstar. He could have really been a a true icon to people who know him and know the work they already feel that way but you know what were your experiences where when you look back on. What could it what he could have done in his career. What can you share about That working with him. You know i think the the main thing i remember in my relationship with andy is just his His charisma and how much love He could generate in a tangible way. And it was. You know everybody that met him was charmed by him and all want to hang out with them because he was Self deprecating he was funny he was totally spontaneously. Klarius like an in like as any actor comedian would be and he would write these beautiful and the and the nature his phrasing in the nature of his lyric writing. It was just so unpretentious and so like Homemade and beautiful and that that he was pasting together from you know discharge to kiss a prince two Like all these elements in all these strange elements. That wouldn't necessarily necessarily think that they would go together. He brought together. I mean he just had lessons for everybody in terms of like well this is this is this is great and And i think his his aunt he was animated by love. He really was. And that's what's so powerful about his music and and what you know what. I think you're talking about You know he could have done anything i think. A mother love bone a narrow bandwidth for him. He could have really Done different bangs and But mostly i just. I remember just just being charmed by him all the time. And just being sort of you know Just wanted to hang out with them. Just wanted to. You know to do stuff with him. He was just that kinda guy matt. You've you know you've occupied the kit behind some greats whether it be the brief time you're in pearl jam or filling in soundgarden. Are you mentioned elton john. You mentioned bowie. You mentioned dylan. Currently what's your holy shit moment for lack of a better explanation here as as you asked me that question. I was just sitting here thinking. I think with most people that are icons like that. It's just holy shit the whole time because you just get in your in their world for that time you're working with them and it's just holy shit. This is whoever it is. It's like oh my god. They're incredible that's why they're who they are. I mean like this past week. I just did You know. I generally do sessions with people on like a session musician. I guess that's my day job. And i just got to work on some new music for adele and to hear that voice in my headphones ne- like chills like it was just so powerful and emotive voice. I mean it's just to be across the room from somebody doing that. It's just insane because you know you hear it on the radio. Whatever and you're like yeah. It sounds really good but to be in the room with these people and feel that energy and it's just it's just so heavy was she was reading something with you where you with was. She singing live. While you were cutting grounds. She is a reading some new material with the songwriter. Rick knowles and she wanted to do it with some drums up and so we just put our mask on and she was in the room. Yeah holy shit should be able to hear to be able to hear it that a pure coming right out of the mouth before it gets recorded in anything thrown on yet or mixed or effects or whatever to hear it so so pure is is a real treat. I would think for any any singer musician To to be right there at the genesis of it to be to be there while you're doing takes and while you're searching for whatever the vibe is and then to hit on it with everybody together is incredible if anybody really. I mean you know anybody. That's a musician that's listening to you. And you're playing off of them. It's just you know you leave at the end of the day. Just going wow. That's why i do music. You know it's magical. But i would say that. Yeah i mean. There's so many stories for these people i've worked with but I mean i don't know if i should tell. Those are usually the best ones mat. I hate to tell you once you question whether you should tell it. Usually the ones everybody would want to hear. But i don't want you to blow any gigs either. So i've signed played a few shows with matt and got to play drums at him. We've jammed lots of time since thus in in in rooms together where nobody was recording or doing anything other than just listening and mattis is a incredible musician. Such a fun fun. Drummer apply with so musical and really can take it to the next level. You you hit on a rift nil double back on it and then you hit something else. And he'll take that to the next level so he's he's so much fun to play with s- understandable wife. Adele is calling him in the middle of the night. Well you didn't call me her. Her songwriter called me. And then the called you and send you the nda which is why. Oh yeah. I probably shouldn't even be talking about this guys. I appreciate the time and you can hear matt and stones musicianship and mason and who contributed to this record again. The the band. The album is called painted shield. That's the name of the band you can hear it on friday. It is released everywhere as you just heard the guy say it has had a long birth. It's been each you trace the history of knife fight back it's about. It's about an eight eight year jess tation period. If you will for this to come out but it's finally here and Days away from coming out and great way to celebrate post thanksgiving to get some new music so people go check old guy rock. It takes a long time these days. You know it's like it's like having to go to the bathroom and you already mentioned you go to bed really early stone. So yeah you really are. You've got the sweatpants on you've got the sweater you go to bed early on your head of just going for a i'm going for liam gallagher looks good for you. Yeah it's a good look. Yeah you should die your hair white. Actually guys is great to meet both of you in. Have you on the show. You're welcome anytime. Thank you best of luck with painted shield and and matt best of luck with all your other projects and stone pearl jam. Whatever else you have coming all the best to you guys and thank you for the time today. Thanks really appreciate snap. You gotta take care guys. Good luck kinda crazy. That in all these years i have never interviewed stone gossard before mike mccready of pearl jam. I've had on quite a bit. No mike pretty well but never had the chance to talk to stone and it was cool to talk to matt as well. And thanks earlier to sean. Kinney and jerry cantrell for joining me from alison chains. What a huge podcast. 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RHOCs Kelly Dodd Flips The Bird, RHOBH Taglines, Tiger King casting, RHONY News, Goodbye RHONJs Nonno And More

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RHOCs Kelly Dodd Flips The Bird, RHOBH Taglines, Tiger King casting, RHONY News, Goodbye RHONJs Nonno And More

"Jonathan over places I go. I've tasted reality dot com gossip Guru self-proclaimed fan girl and pop culture enthusiasts with a sweet spot for nostalgia. You're listening to on his day. Entertainment A podcast. All about the greatest reality TV and pop culture happenings from today yesterday. And tomorrow. Welcome to the fanny. Pack in the words of Bethany Frankel. It's time to mention it all without further ado for this week in reality-tv in celebrity news. I laughed my face off. Atmos- Kelly dodd yet again. Not with her at her she was in New York. I'm assuming Jolie was with her dad. She was in New York her fiance Rick. Leventhal was on the street doing a live report for Fox News who he works for. We see Kelly walking across the street toward her fiance. So she's in the view of the camera as she walks across the street she flips off the double bird and this is why we love or hate. Kelly Dodd those of us who love Kelly Dodd. She brings the messy drama. And it's entertaining as hell but for those of you. Kelly dot haters. This is why you hate her. And I totally get that to also in this week's real housewives news from over the weekend sadly we had to say goodbye to know Teresa Giudice and Joe Gorgas Dad from the real housewives of New Jersey. He had been sick for A. Yo we saw him lose his wife several years ago on the show he was just the most kind beautiful loving man and he will definitely be missed by everyone that loves real HOUSEWIVES OF NEW JERSEY. Let's lighten it up with a little comedy from Tiger King. So if you haven't heard already tiger king because of its huge success. They're making tiger king film of some sort and they're casting real actors and actresses the requests for who the tiger king cast wants to play them is making me so happy it is so incredibly batch it. I love it so much Tom. Finlay that would be Joe. Exotics first husband. You know the guy with no shirt with all the tattoos. He has the Tattoo the property of Joe Exotic tatty right above his groin. Yeah the one with no teeth that one he either wants Mr Shell above Labou Lubov. I never know how to say his name. Which kind of makes sense? Because he's kind of wacky and out there or channing. Tatum what could you imagine channing? Tatum playing John Finley. I mean that corrects me up. But the fact that John Finley thinks that channing. Tatum would want to play him. Is just as funny without said Dylan Passage Joe Exotic third husband once Zach Ephron to play him because they have the same color is and is. He says they're both extremely good looking all right. Well thank you tiger king. I appreciate this. The keep these casting requests coming. That would be the equivalent of me saying. Oh they're gonNA make a bio-pic of me they should clearly have G- Hadeed play me because she's my body double. Obviously it's just asinine before we go into the week's news. We heard one more piece of really unfortunate news over the weekend. We learned that the pop singer pink and her son have both been diagnosed with Kovic nineteen wishing speedy recovery to pink in her son in everyone of course suffering with cove nineteen. Let's move onto Monday. The first thing I wrote for taste of reality always makes me happy. I am such a huge fan of Paul's drag race. Anytime I get a chance to dish on Rupaul or her girls I am here for it. Will my big takeaway is that. Michelle de sized my favorite judge on repulse drag. Greece has her own show. It's like a breakdown of repulsive agrees and it's called what you pack in. How great of a name that. She'd sat down with eight insane and they talked about her time on drag race and life after drag race. I have to tell you the part. I'm most excited about if you don't know Aden. She has a very unique aesthetic. It's very vintage horror very weird and I love it. She wants to make a drag horror film and can I just say I'm here for it. I need that to happen. That's what twenty twenty needs? Is a drag horror crossover so to the powers that be? Can we please make this happen? Well on some more good news the real housewives of Beverly Hills tag lines where released the show. Debuts in the less than a week and the ladies are back their outfits for the Promo pictures reminds me of high school when I would have my Jan sport backpack and I would open up one of the front compartments and have my high lighters perfectly lined up. It looks like that compartment of my Jan sport exploded. And that is the photos foresees town of real housewives of Beverly Hills. I can't explain it but that's what it is. Carcelle had been an interview with. Et online dot com and referring to what she got herself into for Beverly Hills. She said quote. I don't know what I got myself into. It was really fun indifferent. I've never really been around a group of women that just love drama. I'm interested to see how I am pro-trade or what the women say behind my back in the confessionals. That's what I'm excited to see Carcelle. Sorry girl we can't wait to see how all that plays out. The tag lines are here around here. There's more than just dresses than everyone's closet. The secret to life dams like everyone is watching. I won't settle for anything less than every life is an audition and honey. I am getting that part. You never know what to expect when I'm expecting break a leg. Not In these yields sunny. My life may not be a fairytale but I'll always get a happy ending curious to hear what you think of. The Beverly Hills tagline so. Make sure you're heading over to facebook on this day. Entertainment has a facebook group. It's called the fanny pack so if you have any strong feelings on those tag lines make sure to drop them off there. Oh my gosh. We're going to jump over to Tuesday and I have to go right back onto tiger king. Because it's what everyone is talking about Dylan Passage Aka Zaka Franz d'appel ganger. According to Dylan passage has not been invited back to do the new episode of Tiger King. If you guys missed that they announced that one more episode was coming and it has been revealed that the episode is like a reunion. I'm assuming it's Kinda to see where they are now dylan passage not invited. Back Jeff. Low the HITMAN is coming back and he's actually the one that spilled it some very excited to see how that plays out. I think it's a safe bet we can say there's going to be any Carol Baskin. But you know that's okay also on Tuesday. A congratulations to Larisa dos. Santos Lima and her on again boyfriend Eric e because they have gotten back together they were together for several months after Larisa colty broke up and I actually got to meet Eric Easy. When I went to Laura's divorce party at one of the gentlemen's clubs here in Las Vegas. He was a very enchanting guy. Very sweet I got major gave vibes from him. But that's just me. I don't know I'm not looking at anything untrue. But that's just the vibe I get and apparently things are going well for the couple because she is planning on introducing her children to Eric this time around. She didn't say anything about travel right now because our kids are in Brazil so I'm not really sure she understands. That travel is into thing right now because she kept on saying soon but whatever also on Tuesday in a really positive story. These are the stories we need. Did you guys hear about Matthew? Alright alright alright McConnell. Hey he had gone online and called out Bingo for an elderly community that wanted to play Bingo with him via Zoom Matt. Mcconnell hey movie star when on zoom and called out Bingo numbers for an elderly community in Texas love that I think that is so sweet and we need more of that moving onto Wednesday. We got a little sneak. Peek about Leah McSweeney. Before the new episode Rony came out. We learned why she was kicked out of her house at age. Seventeen and the most interesting part was that it looks like league and Ramona could actually become really good friends. And I'm really hoping to see that. I think that would be really cool. Ramona was in an interview somewhere saying that she was like a daughter to her also on Wednesday we saw a private ceremony for no being held with Theresa and the family. They said their final goodbyes again. Rest in peace. No no and this is tough. Another really unfortunate piece of news from New Jersey housewives. Jennifer aiden has cove in nineteen also so again wishing a speedy recovery and that nobody around her gets affected as well on Thursday. We heard some unfortunate news about my girl Sherry Whitfield from well formerly of the real housewives of Atlanta. By the way we need Cherie back unfortunately sh- raise mom is missing. She's been missing since about the middle of March and Theresa. Her mom is known to go on trips and not really giving people any notice but this time she's been gone for a really long time and hasn't given any notice that she's okay. Police have been involved for a couple of weeks. So I feel so bad for her in the middle of just giant world crisis. Where everybody's just so nervous about everything and then your mom just being out. It's terrifying so I hope to raise. Mom is okay. Who could check her if MOM's not there blue I'm sorry. Was that to check. Check me though anyway. He okay all of a sudden. I hope that wasn't declawed. Say Well speaking of Day. Klaus say that's how Bethany Frankel felt watching the season premiere of Roni. She said the premier was lake. A pervert middle finger to her and I went back after her explanation for why and it was kind of a middle finger. I didn't really see it that way. I was just so engaged in what was happening on the screen the ladies didn't say the most flattering things but at the same time they heard about it on TV or on social media rather than from their friend so the raw emotion I feel was well raw. It was honest but I think maybe they I don't know I can't really speak to that but I was really put off by what to of course lew and said because Luanne just might be the most clueless person in the world. She went on a podcast and was asked about Bethany and said I feel like this season because Bethany is not there. The women have a place to express themselves and show more of their personality. I think it is the best season yet. Are you sitting down for this? It's like Bethany who she said. It's like Bethany. Who who the hell does Lou and thinks she is Bethany who Bethany. Who is the lady who is contributing to this disaster that we're in helping doctors and nurses by giving them masks and medical equipment and that's Bethany beach moving onto Friday in the most recent news? I don't know if you guys are still is into the story as I am. It's been a hot scandal for way over a year. Now I'm talking about Aunt Becky Aka Lori Loughlin and of course the cheating scandal there is new evidence that has just been brought out by prosecutors. It's videos of both of 'em becky's daughters faking workout videos of them like on rowing machines. I am just so interested in the story. I've always been just obsessed with this story since it came out. But now the idea of an becky going to prison. With Corona virus being spread around those prisons like wildfire are insane. I mean it's weirdest time to be alive. It really is speaking of being a crazy time to be alive. I can't believe this is news. This is Lisa arena and it is what it is poorly Serena. She doesn't like her tagline for season. Ten isn't that just the saddest thing ever poor Lisa? While her tagline again is the secret to life dance like everyone is watching seems appropriate. She's always dancing on her instagram posts. But she has changed her mind. She doesn't like it anymore. Chester fans via her instagram story to take a pole. Yes or no asking if they want her to change her quote. Dumb Ass tagline and the tagline. She wants is when people ask my sign. I say dollar and she says that's perfect because in the preview they go when they're at Erica's house. They have their horoscopes and signs. Read so she says that makes more sense in the context of the season though. She's always dancing so I don't know how that's not in the context of the season but she's asked for her fans to ask Bravo to make the change for her. As both tagline have been recorded she says it would be an easy switch. Well she has a superfan named Brandon fierman firemen. I'm not sure F. E. R. M. A. N. and he created a petition on Change Dot Org and if we could all have a brandon firemen fierman in our lives. We would all be so lucky. He wrote quote Bravo Toes. One of the bland options lease arena has provided as a tagline for season ten of the real housewives of Beverly Hills as Lisa. Renna has been a driving force in the show's success. In one of the only reasons. I come back to watch season after season. I think Bravo. Tv should change your tagline to the one she preferred. And I have to say Brandon. I love you. I know this is not a popular opinion but I love Love Love Lisa right now I think she is exactly what a housewife needs to be. I was a huge fan of her. On days of our lives back in the day she will always be billy read to me but I love her daughters. I love seeing her family. Her husband I think is adorable. I've been a fan of his for years. I'm all about Lisa arena. That does it for this week on this day. Entertainment News head on over to entertainment dot com to read the full articles for this piping hot tea and more. Welcome back family pack. It's always been fascinating to me to see how the world of entertainment has evolved over the years. So let's take a walk down. Memory Lane and reminisce on some of the juiciest and most monumental on this day vents from this week in pop culture history starting with fifty years ago. A half of a century. Paul McCartney officially announced this split of the Beatles to think of the impact of the Beatles how much they've given us as listeners. It's so sad that they couldn't make it work but like many bands personalities get in the way but the positive is that we've gotten amazing solo music over the years from Paul McCartney George Harrison some I honestly I think Joe George Harrison might be my favorite solo artist of the Beatles. Of course John Lennon. Oh and there's Ringo. He didn't really contribute much. And if you disagree I don't WanNa hear it. It's my it's my opinion in the words of Tamra judge. Oh in one thousand nine hundred seventy eight. The movie soundtrack for Greece was released. I love Greece so much. Obsessed with the movie grease. If you haven't heard my interview with Eddie from Greece yes. The original movie grease. He was the NERD. He honestly gave me one of my favorite interviews. I've done my entire life and you need to go back and listen to that episode. It's called Greece's the word. Highly recommended will the soundtrack was released in seventy eight and I thought it was important to note. If you're like me and are obsessed with the movie grease. You'd be very surprised if you went back and watched the musical as so many things are different. But the biggest thing about the movie soundtrack that you wouldn't have heard if you're a fan of the musical is hopelessly devoted to you. That's the song with Sandy. When she's at the sleepover and she gets upset after the look at me. I'm Sandra Dee Song. So she goes outside to take a breather their clearer head. She's the little kiddie pool. And she's singing and see John Travolta's face appear in the kiddy pool and she washes it away with tissue so good. I was shook when I found out that that song wasn't in the original musical moving on to nine thousand nine hundred. Ninety one. A very underrated band had their only CD released. It's the Band Temple of the dog with the self titled. The vocalist is my favorite singer of all time. Chris Cornell from soundgarden fame he actually created temple of the dog is a tribute to Andrew. Would his late friend. Who was the lead singer of malfunction and mother love Bone Temple of the dog also consisted of Stone Gossard? Jeff amant and both of those guys were in mother love bone with Andrew Wood and later became members of Pearl Jam. Mike McCready was in temple of the dog. He ended up becoming a member of Pearl Jam and Matt Cameron was also a part of temple of the dog. He ended up becoming a member of soundgarden and then later Pearl Jam Drummer. Amazing Grammar Mad. Eddie vedder if you know is the lead singer of Pearl Jam. He was a guest vocalist on the temple of the dog album. He provided some lead vocals a lot of backing vocals. And just the sound of Chris. Eddie's voices together was so good say hello to heaven. I mean I cry every time I hear this song since Chris Cornell is passed I just I really. Struggle reach. Down was another single on this album. Hunger strike which is up there with just one of those great songs in the world and then pushing forward back with another single amazing band only one album but the fact that the band when created soundgarden and Pearl Jam. It still feels like a major win for us. Fans speaking of a major win for fans. Can we talk about rage against the machine's second album? Evil Empire okay thanks. It came out in ninety six and to think of how upset I was a few months ago. After rage against the machine had announced they were going on tour. My husband and I were planning on going for my fortieth birthday where we were taking a trip to Portland. Because rage isn't coming to Vegas wasn't coming to Vegas not going anywhere now. We were GONNA take a trip to Portland. Could not get tickets. I mean even like the tickets that were so expensive that I shouldn't have bought that I was going to buy anyway. Would have been so irresponsible even though sold out so we just weren't able to make it and think of how upset I was. And now we're all at home in quarantine because hundreds and thousands of people are dying makes my little hissy fit over rage against the machine sound ridiculous but the thing about rage against the machine. Is that their music is so important and whether or not you agree with their politics the fact that they use their art which is making music to express themselves in their emotions and how they feel about what's happening in the world around them. I respect the hell out of that. This is a quote from Zach de la Roca. The lead singer the title Evil Empire is taken from what rage against the machine sees as Ronald Reagan's slander of the Soviet Union in the eighties? Which the band feels could just as easily apply to the United States rage is currently finishing up a European tour. But they will be back on our evil. Us soil for tore him late July. That's one thing about that. He doesn't hold back. It is insane that he referred to US soil is evil. But it's fucking opinion. Dila Roca expanded further on the Single Bulls on parade explaining how America is building a wall between itself in Mexico. Repeat this was nineteen ninety-six. This is quote the wall that Germany fell and the US government building another one between the border of the US in Mexico since one thousand nine hundred six as a result of the hate talk in hysteria that the government of the United States has been speaking fifteen hundred bodies have been found on the border and we wrote a song in response to Dow and that is the other singles from evil empire. Were people of the son of favorite of mine via now and down Rodeo. Another favorite I mean honestly rage against the machine is just one of those bands that I have. It sounds like kind of like a mood ban because it's so hard and it's so angsty but there's never not a good time for rage against the machine in my world did least. Can we talk about Mark Wahlberg? Perfect one of my favorite topics. One of my favorite mark. Walberg movies came out this week and entertainment history also in one thousand nine hundred ninety six. The movie fear was released. If you've not seen fear Oh my gosh. It's on Amazon prime. Do yourself a favor. This is a nightmare. Fantasy for fathers. It is so good Mark Wahlberg. He ends up. Meeting Reese Witherspoon character. He's like twenty five. She's still in high school. He wows her and her family loves him except for her dad who feels gets us like terrible feeling about him and it is. Perfection James Foley. Who was the director said that after seeing Mark Wahlberg addition for the role of David? He was so impressed that he issued an ultimatum to the producers and he said quote. I won't direct this movie unless he stars in it. Yes Reese Witherspoon was in this but it was actually offered to live tyler. Initially wonder how that would have gone down for reasons big picture in her career because this was really a breakout movie for her. Fear was described as a teenage version of fatal attraction and critics said well. It wasn't that bad and I agree. I thought it was great. Critics did a lot of times. Criticized the finale. Here's one review. It said Director. James Foley did a fine job evoking the sexual tensions between father daughter and rogue suitor but he has less luck with the inevitable. Garish climates which is so unconvincingly staged never even makes it over the top and one part that was highly criticized was mark. Wahlberg line where he screams at. The father could have been different. Mr Walker should have allowed nature to take its course and it will anyway so walking. That line was improvised it actually ended up getting scrapped from the script and put in a gag. Reel the producer. Brian Grazer saw cut of the film. Notice that that scene was cut out and had James fully the director reluctantly at it. Back to the film and in the end it ended up being one of the most quotable lines in the movie. So there you go. This movie had a phenomenal soundtrack from Jessica by the ALLMAN brothers. They had a couple of Bush songs. Come down and machine. Had you know that Song Wild Horses by Rolling Stones? They had that version By the Sundays it was a cover version was actually pretty good and of course. The illest was a song in one of the parties scenes by Marky mark. If you've not seen fear you need to live your best life and yes you can expect if you're listening to this before Monday. You can expect a fear themed Marky Mark Monday post so see there when you can always find Marky mark. Monday's on Social Media Goto entertainment on instagram twitter and facebook. And you'll see the Marky mark Monday posts that I do every single week because Mondays. Lean Mark Wahlberg. It makes everything a little bit better. Speaking of movies I love. This is the twentieth anniversary of one of my favorite movies. It's a thriller. It's a drama. It's dark comedy. It's a horror film. It's all of it. It's American psycho. This is the movie that was based on the novel by Bret Easton Ellis. In fact vast majority of the dialogue in the movie was taken directly from the novel which I love casting. This was perfection with Christian. Bale he was exceptional at one point. The movie was going to be directed by Oliver Stone. And the plan was have Leo DiCaprio Star as Patrick Bateman. But Leo ended up leaving this film and favor of the beach and at that point the director went back to heron and Christian. Bale was brought back for the lead role. I Love Leo and I could definitely see him in this movie and I don't know how his career would have changed. But the beach was a huge flop. So this movie was really big. Success and is still really highly regarded and the beach is still really poorly regarded. So that's kind of an interesting. What if it would have gone that way? When Christian Bale was looking to create the character of Patrick Bateman? He's stumbled across. I love this. He suckled upon an appearance of Tom. Cruise on the late show with David Letterman. Bail saw in crews quote this very intense friendliness with nothing behind the eyes and quote and at that point bail subsequently based his character of Patrick Bateman on that Christian Bale when he was prepping for this role had actually done the bathroom routine the daily morning getting ready for the day routine that Patrick. Bateman did some of the other really good choices made by Christian. Bale for this character was improvised and I love this. That seem when honestly I think one of the best kill seems ever in movies the scene where Patrick Bateman kills. Jared leto character and he does the moon walk with the accident his hand right as he's about to kill him. All that was improvised. Bravo Christian Bale. It was disturbing as shit many told Christian Bale that this movie would be career suicide if he took the role that only made him more eager which I think is bad ass. Fortunately for him the opposite turned out to be true. This was considered a breakthrough performance for Christian. Bale and it enabled him to shift his career from supporting roles to leading status and while he's still getting amazing leading man roles. Oh another seeing that. I loved another great. Kill you know the chainsaw scene Christian Bale would film that and only hang out with his sock over his penis in tennis shoes between scenes and that was just his process and I love him for it. One interesting thing about the movie. The film had a lot of problems with the designer labels during production one of the major themes of this movie and the book. Was that really uppity New York society life. These guys were all businessmen but they didn't really ever do any business. They just talked about all the money in the things they had very materialistic and shows a really ugly side of Wall Street will signed agreed to allow Christian. Bale to wear their clothes but as long as he wasn't killing. Anyone Rolex agreed that anyone in the film could wear their watches except for Patrick. Bateman that refers back to a famous line from the book. And don't touch the Rolex and in the film they had to be changed to touch the launch so thanks rolex. Perry Ellis came to the rescue after Calvin Klein pulled out at the last minute of the project Perry Ellis. These were worn in the film. I don't know the name. It's French. Combed their soul refused to allow one of their overnight bags to be used to carry a corpse but shout out to John Paul Go. Ta Who let them use one of his suitcases instead. And I think they ended up winning on that one. It's like I said earlier. This is one of those genre confused movies. There's this ongoing debate. Is it a drama? Is it a thriller horror? I think it's a black comedy and a lot of ways as movie cracks. Me The fuck up. Even though it is still one of the scariest movies I've ever seen in my life. The film is described as a cross genre film. And it just it contains more than one particular genre. And that's just how it's defined. I think we're all kind of those cross genre types except without the murderous aspect that would be bad as part of the marketing campaign for American Psycho. I love this emails were sound out from Patrick. Bateman and though Christian Bale was not keen on this approach if I got a promotional email from Patrick Bateman telling me that I need to go see American psycho. I would have run in not walked to that movie theater so we need to talk about the ending because it has two different explanations and I'm not sure that you saw the one really for what it was so number one. Patrick killed all the women that we see him kill number two Bateman. Didn't kill anyone. Yes you heard that right. Behmen wasn't murdering people the whole movie but instead was fantasizing about it either in his office by drying it in his notebook or on a paper tablecloth that you see in the film and that's why he claims. This confession meant nothing because it didn't actually happen. I was really hoping to have a net flicks party for this film or for fear. Actually but neither of these movies are on net flicks. They're both on Amazon prime now. So if you have access to Amazon Prime I highly recommend you go back and watch fear and American psycho and you can thank me later also this week in entertainment history shoutout to the final season. Premiere of game of thrones that was last year in twenty nineteen. Isn't it crazy to think about the hype? That game of thrones had from its beginning all the way through the end. I was a huge game of thrones fan and just that last season was so bad it was so bad that it tainted the rest of the series which was as close to perfect as you get anyway. That does it for the nostalgic throwbacks from this week in entertainment history for this week's birthdays. Holla Holla to Heather Thomson from Roni. She was born in Nineteen seventy-one. She turns forty nine this year. Rock singer Aaron Lewis from the band strange turns forty eight. He was born in seventy two former real housewife of Atlanta star. Claudia Jordan turns forty seven. She was born in Nineteen seventy-three. A sad one. Oh my Gosh Jonathan brandis somebody. I grew up watching on TV. I loved Jonathan Brandis in that movie. Ladybugs with Rodney Dangerfield. It's so stupid so good though. He dresses up like a girl in the soccer team. Ended up winning and it gets his dad back together with the woman that he likes. Whatever anyway Jonathan Brandis was born in seventy six but sadly died in two thousand and three that will never get over Jennifer aiden. I'm so sad to say this but she has birthday this week and she's going to be celebrating with covert nineteen. Which fucking sucks. She's going to be forty three this year. One of my personal pop. Music Queens Love Mandy Moore so much. She turns thirty six. She was born in Nineteen eighty-four. I'm sure you know her from this is us. She plays the MOM. I know her from her amazing pop. Music career amazing movies. Like saved and a walk to remember. Mandy. Moore is gold also born this week. Hilly Joel Osmond was born in nineteen eighty eight. We know him from the sixth sense. I recently saw him in. I think it was the new mark. Wahlberg movie actually Spencer confidential. He was a bit role in that. He's thirty eight which is so weird to think that the kid I see that people is now thirty. Eight is Weird Daisy Ridley from Star Wars. The Force Awakens is twenty eight this week. Happy Birthday to Daisy Ridley. Well thank you for tuning in to understand retainment the podcast for all your TV and pop culture nostalgia and news from today and yesterday if you want to stay in the know. Subscribe to on This Day. Entertainment wherever you get your podcasts and remember to follow on this day entertainment on instagram twitter and facebook. 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Mini-Ep 72: Relationship Roles

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Mini-Ep 72: Relationship Roles

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Our voicemail is seven eight one five nine one one zero three nine zero and our email is forever thirty five podcast at g._o. Dot com dora saw something what are we did like a dare and we dared listeners. Here's to call the voicemail and sing their favourite t._v. Jingle i mean you're the one who gets voicemails. So if you you want so listen wade through all those voicemails but you think you might guess you think anyone would do it seeing their favourite t._v. I just hope hope that out of my bo- like sure it could be anything. Anything sure just a thought okay. I'm just going to a a loving dare. I don't like mean dares <hes>. Maybe it's a challenge. That's a better word. That's a better word. Speaking of songs we received an email from a listener who had a specific connection to the single all soundtrack he sure did this listener wrote in a you may recall that we talked very excitedly about the single soundtrack and i do recall that many episodes stories started saying i did e._j. Dodo d._j. Dorey what's your name. What's your d._j. Name well d._j. Started spinning the single santrac so here's what one listener wrote. I'm catching up on the pod and just listened to the minneap where you had your amazing singles tangent. I'm from seattle and a few years ago. I nearly moved into the singles building the building building and the apartments look exactly the same as they do in the movie and the building manager is a really nice nutty guy. I was only four years old in nineteen. Ninety-two the soundtracks still makes me feel so nostalgic. The apartment was not in great shape but i almost moved in just because i wanted to say that i lived in the singles building right next door to steve's was place one fun fact my grade school art teacher son is mike mccready from pearl jam and the guys from the band used to come and visit us in her classes. She retired from teaching to join them on their world. Tour in the late nineties what a cool mom and teacher of that's amazing wow yeah and then i started googling like pearl jamf picks in one thousand nine hundred eighty two and remembering how like crush on all those gentlemen sure also remembering the high doc martens with white scrunched socks and shorts. Look remember that that's what eddie vedder war. That's what i was physically attracted to as a twelve year old wow that explains a lot. I mean in crush on eddie vedder. I wasn't that into eddie vetter. I don't think i would be i was i like pearl jam. I thought one hundred percent thought this was going to be a space. Where we communed also crushed. He was not really my jam. Wow yasser snarf smoothie i j d._j. Now at pun a pearl jam done. It's all too much too much. It's too early in the day for this. Sorry you're all right. I'll i'll rain it in no don't this is my favorite interesting. We got a very specific recommendation for you. We you did excited okay. I'm gonna play this weisman. He story. I'm just listening to episode eighty two while i was running my work teheran which to run work here in on a beautiful sunny day. I'm like yes sign me up and then i can listen to podcasts. It's very fun anyway. It was listening to do it and i was at the part where story you had your little slip with the water from the dog bull and i wanted to tell you about something i just bought. There's a total game changer. It's called eight by the lummus splash free dog water bowl and you find it on amazon was on. It is total game changer. I just thought it for our new new dog and there are no spills anywhere. It's amazing i. I didn't even know this thing. I wish i would've known it with my dog. So if you are looking for an alternative to a traditional water water dish again it's called vita luma splash free pestle and you can find it on amazon. I hope that helps you. I hope you recover quickly from your bumps and bruises and i love listening to your guys with podcast. I've been with you since you're very first episode and it's just so fun. I feel like i'm listening to my girlfriend's. Just having a great conversation and i hope that someday you would come visit our beautiful state of montana have a great day guys by i would love to visit the beautiful state of montana the big sky state. Yes i also would love to have you been there before. No i have in college so i'm long overdue. Oh oh yeah we we would love to come to montana friend of the pod and helen peterson lives in montana right took a stay with her. Hey i any here we we come. They just got another. They have beautiful dog steve. That's a great name dog me just always shouting. Steve sit steve sit good dog. I'm looking at this water dish a couple other people recommended it the specific one yeah. I believe it's the same one. It's only sixteen ninety nine yeah. Are you gonna get it. I might i'm thinking about it. I mean that you do have a slobber. A lovely but slobbery is lovely but slobbery curious how this bulwark have. You had any more incidents where you've fallen snow but i've i've. I've gotten more careful okay yeah. I'm really really try not to rush you know sure trying to take it slow and where <hes> groupie soled shoes in the kitchen the things we do for our animals i mean can we just say what do i do for my animal. I don't i mean truly. I'm looking at mine right now. I'll loose loose goose. She lives a frigging life of luxury shirt like she is what she deserves does she. Though i'm not entirely early convinced always with her. Well thank you for the wreck and for the invitation listener yeah. We'll see you in montana aware in montana. She lives it. All seems great. It does helena billings. Missoula bozeman look at us just cities cities in montana. We showed no limited geography yeah i would. I would like to go to montana and my daughter has a bucket list of every state. I oh cool. I feel like is a would be a good thing for us all to do yeah i think matt has been to every state except alaska and there's one other random one like south dakota or some best recipe too young age well toward for a long time yeah and he's done some like cross country road trips. I have not been many places in in our great country well. Maybe we'll hit the road and like an r._v. and just potted up around america henry come yes of course he's rolling now. He's gonna roll into montana. Would you like to hear what other weisman i would love that high keaton dorey this is jocelyn in colorado out for a hike with my the dog and my father is listening to your latest many up and which of a listener called up asking about how to gauge the worth of putting effort into making friends when they are <hes> when they don't reciprocate and that was looking at if i was thinking i've been reflecting lately that i'm not good at retaining -taining <hes> almost every time that i get together with friends they initiate it and oftentimes people in the shape things and i sal reschedule then i don't and i just wanted to say that i like all these people and i want want to spend time with all of these people <hes> and i don't i don't know why it is soon that it never occurs to me to initiate things i think partially because i'm very busy <hes> and you know if that's the case of some of these people that this listeners reached out to maybe they're not available to be the kind of friend that he or she is looking for here. Here's a and <hes> that's possible but i just wanted to say that gore. Everyone has how'd you initiate hanging out with me. I like them. I think they're cool. I wanna hang out with them and <hes> just a little note to not take it personally really <hes> and some people are initiating and some people <noise>. My myself are not <hes>. I'm not totally sure why but i'm sure that a lot of these people really enjoy hanging out with you and maybe a missing bone <hes> so fat at all good luck making eh <hes>. It's such a great thing to do so much attention so i'm sure that it will work out well for you could really hear her hiking. She was hiking quite a club libya. She really wants power walking that mountain. My hiking would have been like raw. I probably would have made that call beneath a tree or something something would have been in my car. Yes yeah well listener way to like triple task because that list there called us listening to a podcast and called us while on a hike with their dog and their toddler yes. How do you do it. That seems like a lot. Maybe like yeah who has time to make friends when you're doing all live that once. This call was interesting to me. Tell me why dory i'm. I'm trying to unpack how i feel about it d._j. D._j. has arrived sammy giggling in background. I gotta i okay yes. I think that this caller has the clearly has the best of intentions tensions and is very busy has at least one child and a dog and she says she's very busy but it reminded me a little bit of people who are always late. Go on. It was like a little bit lake. You're just expecting everyone else to do all the work for you. Oh i'm sorry i'm sorry sorry. I know that's that's harsh well. I think if if your vibe is like i do want to hang out. Just don't know why i'm not the person who makes the calls and you know that that's it's a that is also says like she. She admits that she flakes a lot and then doesn't reschedule. Sometimes that's just who people are and it's not done out of. I know you don't think i don't i don't think it's out of malice. It's interesting you bring up lateness because that was one of your earliest intent was to stop being late yeah and and i and i had to really like look deep inside myself and say like why am i always late and yes. It is disrespectful to other people and like today. I fucking scramble to get here on time like you made my my morning was chaotic. I pumped in the car like it was it was an effort to get here on time and i was here on time and like i don't know the listeners sounds very sweet and kind and i'm and i and i'm not saying this to impugn her but i do feel like there is a there is a there's a touch more self excavating. She could be doing about why she never wants to initiate these hangouts or you know these things with her friends as she says she really wants to do and it's like i also kind of believe that like ultimately gently. You do what you wanna do and her actions are kind of speaking louder than her words i think i wish i'm making the cringe inge emoji hiding under the table because i feel bad saying this because i like you said. I don't think she's a malicious person and i don't think she's like doing doing this. Out of you know well. Do you think also we get used to the roles that we play us in relationships a thousand percent and that roll like it can be the same even with different front group friends like i'm definitely kind of the same in my like high school group of friends and i and my call it like yeah. I have the same mm role so. I wonder if there's a little bit of that where like we get very comfortable in behavior. Maybe it's not an issue but it sort of sounds. It's like her friends. I got the sense that maybe her friends have said that feel that it might be an issue. I could be wrong here. I could be totally wrong and everything is fine so ignore me if that is the case also were all coming at things like friendship and making friends and how we do it in her own way yeah and like i definitely have some like i am not good at remembering the birthdays. I and i have a lot of anxiety over that that i forget to text back. I do a lot of that and i've had to this year. I had to do a little bit of all right. Put my i started a little bit of soul searching about why that it is and how i can make some changes so that i am the friend i want to be <hes> because i've been feeling kind of crappy about some of the balls also i have personally dropped but also it's very hard. It's like easy to identify the ways in which we may not like you know. Step up yeah. We want but it's hard. It's very hard to change. I agree. We are in our bones. 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I i am calling you from just outside my local branch of the san francisco public library about to return the copy of start up that i borrowed from their last week and i just love it dory this book amazing and i just wanted to say thank you for putting something so fun and intriguing into the world <hes> a few years ago when i went back to work <hes> this was in two thousand fourteen after staying home and and raising my kids and building a career out of the volunteerism that i had done in local public schools here in san francisco go <hes> i went back into the world of the co working space and i felt so old and i just loved the sabrina bring a character and how she really felt out of place and how she's just trying to navigate what the world looks like now and all this stuff <hes> and complications that her life he says the mother and wife <hes> have has in it and so i just wanted to tell you that and also after listening to the <hes> minneap this morning <hes> i'm looking for a replacement for the keells original makeup remover which i loved so much and i just mess. There is nothing like it on the market that i have found that and i'm wondering if your listeners have a recommendation so have a great tuesday and <hes> i'll be listening soon fi. I'd love to know why the kills i remove her was so great remover was so great to it made me want to go by that one while it doesn't exist anymore i guess not no. I love clinics eye makeup remover. Love love love sick. Take the day off it goes. It's nice it doesn't i have very sensitive is doesn't doesn't bug my sensitive is. Do you use an eye makeup remover now. I just use me solaire water. That doesn't get it all off for me. <hes> i need something more like i. I like like an oil cleanser but i do when i'm really trying to get all the gunk off my eyes. I recommend clinic dear listeners. I might check that out <hes> but somebody i'm sure someone has suggestion out there also kills what's what's up. Bring about commodity. Do it all right dora. Take it away okay. Do you have any recommendations for how to get over a big break-up for background thirty three and have actually been divorced once and separately the ended a five year relationship but both were made more manageable by just jumping into something new right now. I'm in the midst of a break up with someone with whom i had a short relationship only about six months but whom i thought i would marry one day. He was literally everything. I never knew. I wanted before we met n._f._l. Totally head over heels. Some things have happened and we are no longer together but i'm still crazy in love with him. My question is what do i do to move on. I find myself being reminded him. Literally everywhere i go around my neighborhood and even around my house i need help any thoughts or maybe ways. You got over break ups before you both met your husband's anything. You have to say. I'm sure will help. I'm sorry i'm also sorry break-up. Sock no matter if you initiated if you're on the receiving end if it's short long it always sucks yeah. I will say one thing i noticed in my second reading of this is that you said your breakup your divorce and then you're five relationship were made more manageable by manageable by just just jumping into something new. I was going to point that out myself so my advice to you would be to not jump into something new. It's going to suck uh-huh. It's gotta be painful. Miss this person everything's going to remind you. You're gonna wanna be with them or relationship. See if you can just date yourself self for a while <hes> fun of with yourself. I realize i sound like a cartoon self-help grew but in all seriousness i do think getting and you may never fully be comfortable on your own or being single whatever it is but but finding space to just i be thinking about you sitting in the discomfort and the grief and then focusing on yourself i think would be really may not help you get get over it but i think it would be the right way to go about dealing with things yeah d._j. D._j. What's your thought you're really trying to make d._j. D._j. happen well. Can i tell you on fuller fuller house. I don't know if you've watched fuller while stephanie tanner be john's a d._j. And her d._j. Name is d._j. Tanner which is her older sister and it's this great whole areas joke in the first episode and i just think about it all the time so now it'd be <hes> yeah i i was also going to going to highlight that as a and i think it could also so help to throw yourself into some sort of physical activity whether it's getting really into yoga or dance dance or training for a marathon our lifting powerlifting just something that is kind of goal oriented so you can focus on it could be really helpful. I find about volunteering volunteering sure channel your energy into into helping others. Do i sound insufferable. Literally just gave me a look no. I think that's a great idea but i i think it's unrealistic to expect some volunteer like every day right and then to like break up and be like i know what i'm gonna do here i go. I hope i've seen volunteering is a great idea yeah but i think the nice thing about physical activity is is often something you can do every day. True find you find time to do it. You can focus on it. You can kind of see your progress aggress which is very rewarding so maybe do both and good luck to you yeah. It's really hard or you could volunteer alan tear with like a one of those organizations like back on your feet or you could like volunteer at like a team in training type thing. Let's the back of your faith is. It gets an housed people to run marathons. That's really cool all right all right another. He's another email longtime listener. Finally writing in i listened to the most recent minneap my way to work today kind of responding to the life figured in your forties portion. I am only thirty and was feeling like i finally had everything figured out. I've been married for four and a half years and have two kids and a great husband. We made some stupid choices says right after we got married and had a lot of debt filed bankruptcy this year and finally have everything under control moving to a new town closer where we both work and have to amazing kids now. I may only be thirty and thought we were on a good track. Keyword thought my husband recently came out to me as transgender. I want to be supportive and don't plan on going anywhere. He is starting the hormones this week and we are moving this week and the only person other than his boss that he has told we are keeping it from our families until we have to tell them ideally after the holidays. I feel like this is a curveball everything we had figured out. How would you recommend being as supportive as possible through all of these changes. I know he may lose some family through this dory we we have played with the idea of starting a podcast similar. Take as excellent adventure as far as just talking about the process and being there for people going through something similar. Is this a horrible. We're able idea any advice from yourselves or other listeners would be appreciated. Well i think you're you're already being really supportive partner yeah just by being open to us and wanting to hear about other people's experiences. I think that's really great in terms of starting a podcast. I mean sh yeah. I'm i'm. I'm on board for anyone anyone starting podcast especially when we're kind of talking about like difficult situation the one thing i will say is like if you start a podcast. It's it's going to be out there and and your whole situation is going to be your whole. Situation is going to be very public for better and for worse like i think it will genuinely help help a lot of people but also it will be very public and there will be times. Maybe when you don't wanna talk about some stuff but you have sort of put yourself in a situation where you have have to so i would just say for you and your partner just have some like good conversations about that about whether you're ready for that and kind of putting yourself under the microscope and also think about your kids <hes> you know do you want their lives lives kind of out there in this way as well as we think there's other ways. If you don't go to podcasts route you could even do an instagram which you talk about your experience or a website or or whatnot. I would also say like for yourself and for your partner i would recommend individual therapy and couples therapy again not an expert. I certainly have never experienced <hes> a partner transitioning but i think making sure that you have support as their spouse and then also that your partner has support and then you that you together are working with someone as <hes> a team i think is really important and also i i did do a little googling which obviously anyone can do and there are tons of support groups available both online and in person depending on where you're located so i think i think that could also be really really helpful but i'd love to hear from listeners who have been in the situation or maybe transitioned themselves <hes> with with a partner without without a partner just kind of how that went to maybe what how your partner was supportive <hes> or how they have been more supportive or if you are a partner someone who transitioned how you supported your partner and separate yourself in support yourself yeah yeah so i'd love to hear from listeners about that because we're definitely not have neither of us have gone through this. 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The details of the hardest part is that i absolutely love food and it has always been my number and comfort cooking elaborate meals going out and trying in new in delicious things to eat our favorite things in the world. I love food. My problem is that because eating something delicious with abandoned has been a self care practice for years apprentice. He's not binging just eating something truly delicious and getting lost in it. I can no longer do it without breaking my i._b._s. Approved diet and suffering the consequences a break the diet and tell myself it is for my mental health but then my physical health suffers have you had any experience where something you do for self care has become self harm any advice for how to deal with this us. Oh i'm so sorry that's got to be a really big adjustment and finding or maybe well. I have two thoughts one. I think discovering what other things that bring you joy and self care leap land focusing on those things it's like a readjustment on what you lean on but that might be something you have to do and then also. I have never been on a map diet. I know there are very specific foods to avoid <hes> because it it will then like you said 'cause flare ups and those symptoms sound really uncomfortable but i wonder if there's a way and i believe there are a lot of blogs and websites where people well who are on a map diab- share recipes and maybe there can still be joy. Kate can say the same thing will then take it away from no no go on. I mean just there can still maybe maybe like learning a new way to cook into work within these restrictions that you have and still finding a way for delicious and get lost in it now again i am not. I don't have to practice this way of eating. I don't know for sure but maybe that exists but yeah i i mean i'm not gonna sit here and pretend that it's going to be the same as like being able to go out and eat whatever you want a right. It's not right but maybe maybe there's a way for you to kind of get lost in the challenge of creating delicious food that still adheres to your diet. I just did a quick google and for example. I found on the website greatest low fahd map recipes. That won't make you feel limited well there. You feel like there are there. We are one of the positives of the internet is that we can find communities and i bet your people are out there. Foodies fahd map foodies have to be out there there in fact. I bet someone's listening right now. Who might be able to raise your hand five map foodie call us in call in lesson call in and let us know because listener i bet we can. I bet we can find your people <hes> and the sounds really really hard at door do you have have you ever had something thing that you do for self care become self harm. That's very specific question. I don't think i had the experience oh actually. I kind of did like like when i when i first started running <hes> i got a stress fracture because i like overtrained and wasn't eating well enough. That's really interesting. I exercise for me to yell like i've had to readjust yeah how i do it so it doesn't hurt my body and actually kind of dealing with that right now. Oh listener. You've made me think about this well. I bet there's also facebook groups. Oh yes and maybe you're already in them and you're still feeling this away so i'd but i'm sorry you're not and again. I mean look we're gonna suggest therapy all the time but there is a real grief aspect and you're also dealing with really serious serious physical symptoms and that that can be really challenging so get in get into it with a therapist or if you have the means you could also work with a nutritionist who might be able to provide provide you with like recipes that fit this way of eating that are still pleasurable on that note. We are going to sign off and this here many the episode. Thank you all so much for listening. Give joy thanks for d._j. Will be back next week bye.

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ET - Rik Emmett // Rachel Bolan

The Eddie Trunk Podcast

1:36:27 hr | 8 months ago

ET - Rik Emmett // Rachel Bolan

"Thank you for listening to this podcast one production. Now, available on Apple podcasts podcast one spotify and anywhere else you get your podcast. Since nineteen eighty three eighty truck has been the voice for fans of rock hard rock and heavy metal of bestselling author host of TV's that metal Shell and seven national radio shows including Trunk Nation Daily on Sirius Xm interesting Eddie offers the world is news making interviews, passionate analysis, honest commentary, and who knows what else. So welcome to the any trunk podcast. Welcome everybody said truck in. It's time for another episode of the truckload cast, which is new every Thursday podcast one, dot com apple podcast, and, of course. spotify free as usual each and every week. Thank you for subscribing, listening, downloading, favoring, whatever you do. Thank you for doing. So and I, hope you are having a good week. We've got another double dip for you too big interviews Rik Emmett of triumph talking about Solo Music, the upcoming triumph documentary and a whole lot more. You'll enjoy that conversation and also after that Rachel Bolan Co, founding member of the band skid row, we talk about a little skid row stuff and also Rachel's latest business. Venture, which is soap. Yeah. So like take a shower Hanso like really good quality great soap and it's a company called dirty rocker soap that he launched. We touch on that as well. So get ready for Rachel little later on the PODCAST I up recommit guitarist and lead vocalist of the band triumph covering a lot of grounds to pretty long on this week. So I'll keep this intro SORTA short. But I do WANNA make mention. Of the passing of legendary UFO bassist. Pete Way anybody that knows me knows I am enormous ufo Fan, Pete One of my all time, favorite bass players one of my favorite characters ever one of my favorite stage performers ever Pete is a guy who had a massive impact and influence on so many artists many of whom went on to much greater success quite frankly but pete really was an innovator and a super influence on many many rockers look no further for proof of that. Then the massive amount of people who posted about Pete on social media after his death was announced last Friday and you name it anybody in a major rock band. Talked about Pete and how special he was I didn't know Pete extremely well personally, but I was a huge fan and many no like I said how big a fan of Ufo I am and Pete was a big reason for that. So very, very sad news losing Pete Way at the age of sixty nine I, did a big tribute to him on the radio on my Sirius Xm show this past Monday and my guests included Joe Elliott Mike. McCready. Pearl Jam Nikki Six and Michael, Schenker it was unbelievable and I tell you. I could have I mean the show is two hours my daily live show on Sirius Xm I could have easily gone. Eight hours I had so much outreach from different people in different bands that wanted to talk about and how important he was to them but I simply didn't have the time to have everybody on. So we'll no doubt be talking about Pete a lot more as we go forward and You know give these people an opportunity to say how important he was. But in the tribute, those four major names just incredible to half and they were all great next week I will bring you those interviews if you did not hear them. And you don't have Sirius Xm or you're outside of America or Canada and can't get serious or Xm I will bring you those interviews here on the podcast with Mike McCready? Joe. Elliott Nikki six and Michael Schenker all talking about Pete Way just need to let Sirius Xm that audio exclusively for another week or so and if you have Sirius Xm and you missed that show, please listen to it on demand now on the Sirius Xm APP if you don't have it and or you're outside of the US or Canada, I'll bring it to you here on the podcast. Thursday. It will be great either way to celebrate Pete Way and again all the interview here on this podcast originate on trunk nation on Sirius Xm WANNA six volume. Hope you join me there and if you're not already on board, please come on board and listened to daily rock talk to to four PM eastern time each and every day live with nightly replays ten. 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Austin's amazing career the deacons with metal militia, Star Brian, Deegan, and extreme sports, loving family plus many more sports returned. Be sure to tune into all the great podcast with podcast one sports net so you don't miss any action. This is the Eddie Trunk podcast. Welcome back. It's Eddie trunk on this week's podcast. Thank you so much for listening We start off as mentioned with Rik Emmett of triumph coming up second and just a bit. It'll be Rachel Bolan of skid row a very, very deluxe expanded double dip addition to great interviews for you this week I. Hope you enjoy him. We start with RIK Emmett right now. How are you rick? I'm Great Eddie how are you? Good how you in Canada how are you home? Yeah, yeah I live in Burlington, which is sort of a western city suburb, of Toronto and It's been great here. Actually you know it's I haven't minded sort of being isolated and. You know it hasn't had too much effect at actually allow me to become a little bit more creative so I've been enjoying myself. Well that's the thing you know all this pandemic time all the artists I've been talking to all seem to have a different take. Some are really chomping at the bit to go out there and do things and others are enjoying the reconnect with family and not used to being home. This long others are taking the time to do really creative things. Right record do streaming videos what what's been the focus for you. In this time I mean you you are semi retired from touring anyway weren't you? Yeah I had sort of stepped back from touring at the beginning of twenty nineteen. So I was getting used to it and I had told my agent. Well, you know I'll go out and try if you want to necessarily have to fly two gigs. But if you put some stuff together that can drive to maybe I'll try some of that and then along came covert thing and those got bumped and canceled and so but I was already getting used to being off the road. anyways. So I don't really miss the road and I mean. I do Miss Playing And and having that I interaction with the crowd and that energy you know but I don't miss you know airplanes and hotels and taxi cabs and all the rest of it. You know a And the thing. That's weird. Eddie like it was almost like a retirement was a great career move for me because. Round Hill records was putting out the triumph stuff said, he would you like us to put a all your back catalog and I went well sure that it'd be great. It's nice to have somebody believing me. So all of the albums that I made after I left triumphed they've just digitally released him and then I was sitting around going I. Think you know I still want record and stuff when I was writing tunes in When I in nineteen, sixty, two, I don the Bob Dylan record, it was just called Bob Dylan and it was just a cousteau Qatar voice voices. You know all my years I've never really done a whole album like that. So I'm going to do a project like that. So I put that out on my website and then I I was. Writing a book of poetry and it looks like a publisher wants to make a deal so that I can do book of poetry and a memoir. So it's like one thing led to another thing about to nosing before I. Knew It. I had like a completely full calendar, and now of course you know I'm doing all of this promos on calling you. What is what is strung out troubadours I saw link for that. What is after the newest thing you're doing? Now Strung out troubadours was a thing. There was a guy named Dave Dunlop who played in my band and he actually went try and fly the reunion Gig in. Sweden in an Oklahoma Day was actually in the in the triumph hand as well playing rhythm. Guitar and Stuff. So Dave and I had a little duo thing like a lot of times my touring and got to the point where I was doing a lot of solo stuff I wanted something else and so I use the piano player for a while and then I kinda got the edge to have a little bit more of a rock and roll approach. So two guitars made it a little bit more kind of versatile and so Dave is the guy and we did it for you and then I said, Hey, you know what? We should do an album together and put it out. We can sell it at emerge table, and so that was the birth of the troubadours and we did three albums. and. Yeah Round Hill bought my rights out to those days still has his side of it. He he didn't sell them. So he stands to make some more mechanical royalty. Whatever there is to be made these days, right Yeah. So I wanNA talk to you. I. WanNa ask you some triumph stuff of course but before. But before that, let's let's let me cover the reason you're calling which you mentioned the release of your albums after triumph ended for you and I think rick that people would probably be surprised to learn how many records there are, and there were a lot of people that sort of. Categorized what you did after triumph as being a jazz guitar, but that's not all you did. You really ventured into a lot of different styles. So for people that especially here in America that maybe didn't follow all that closely some of the stuff you did after triumph tell everybody what you did musically, and how many records there are in the different journeys those records took you on. Okay well, you know settle in folks make yourself a cup of coffee. This is a long story. There there was thirteen that round hill made a deal for and they ran the gamut and when I first got of triumph. So a little bit of sort of ancient history here left eighty eight. I actually made three albums for an indie either had a distribution through universal and in Canada. And those sort of started an evolution or You know I don't know a a mutation change from being sort of Iraqi. Guy To kinda be in a singer Songwriter Guy and that took me from eighty nine through to about ninety five six. And then I sort of had enough. I. I was I mean the industry had changed You know the whole thing of being sort of in an arena rock band. It's kind of converted to an MTV banned through the eighties that was dying off and there was the rise of Nirvana and soundgarden and so radio had gone in a different direction and I try and thing just seemed like it was over for me you know so I left made those three records in there and I got to the point where I went. Okay. This doesn't really seem to be working for me either and it's not really why I left triumph. In the first place I just want to indulge myself creatively artistically and I don't care if I make money or not This is not a question of chasing career. This is a question of sort of. Chasing what art in music and the music is is pulling me towards calling me. You know. So I, one was a classical guitar instrumental record next one in very short succession was a blues rock and kind of a thing because really that was like where I cut my teeth when I was first learning electric guitar was the whole Eric Clapton Jimmy Page Jeff Beck thing these guys out of the yardbirds then back into the Chicago Blues and down the Delta all of the you know the the same path that those guys went soon as you discover them, you go back down the path that they did too. So you know And then the next record was sort of top jazz because that was the next thing that happened in my life I went to college for one semester in Jazz Music Program but at the time, I was heavily deeply into everything from west, Montgomery to Charlie bird to Joe Pass and so Yeah you know swinging and that comes on playing blues and so those were the first three records I made real quick and it sort. Of became a trilogy in People's minds that I'd made three records and okay it's time for some singing and singer songwriter stuff again and I made some of those and then I started up the thing with Dave Dunlop and we did three of the trio troubadours records, and around this time there was smooth jazz was kind of happening on the radio and one thing to another, and they started playing my tunes on smooth jazz radio and so. If they weren't really smooth jazz they were. They were Kinda soft enough and jazzy enough and artistic enough that they went. Okay and then I started winning awards for being the smooth Jazz Guitar Player of the year and got to hang out with George Pensin at the awards show and you know all of this kind of stuff is going on in my life. And then. you know along the way I made a record with a friend of Mine Mike Shot? And who was in a band called funk groove and we did this very certain heavy progressive kind of rock band record around two thousand seven called airtime. Liberty Manifesto, and So that's in the mix for those like hard rock that's in there too and so anyways, he'll round hill takes all this stuff and They said we're GONNA put all these words on your birthday this year wreck on July ten and I go well, guys middle of July. I don't think that's a good time to put on a Christmas record 'cause of course, in the flower records, there was also a Christmas record and a Latin record they done with two other guys and so they sort of picked the eleven and put those out and the okay. Now I'm tired and I need you to ask a question so I can catch. Come on. Now you're not that old. He's still got plenty left and you rick well, I have a question because I've had you on my show over the years. And of course, we the great time a few years ago where I came up to Toronto and reunited you with with Gill. And A. Liquor yeah. What am I saying drawn a blank your? Great Day where went on the radio live and you guys came back together form and got a great day that loved it and I still appreciate so much you guys doing that. But Wha- I remember prior to that you had called into my show once and you had done a record not very long ago but I don't think it was under your own name and I remember significantly there was a guest spot on it from Alex Life's and what record was that. Okay. So that was a little bit later. That was twenty, sixteen and There was an American Guy over the sort of. OOD I. THINK IT WAS CLEVELAND. Maybe, not I can't remember what area he lived in. anyways, he was Kinda functioning like an and and for Mascot Provo which is A. Kind of a European based label that Guiseley Joe Bonham ASA has record deals with them in Warren Haynes and Robben Ford and those like it's a real guitar arena label and So they made me an offer and and it was a pretty good one to to make a record and So I did and there was enough of a budget that I got Alex to play guitar on it on a couple of things and James Lebron of dream theater in a couple of things. And it was a lot of fun and I felt I you know without tooting my horn too loud. I really felt it was a really good record very solid, and the way I, approached it was a put a real band together Dave Dunlop was in its Ski Steve's Game Lane My bass player, Paul Delong on drums and So it was unreal on Samba rock kind of a record but it was right up mascots. They have a sort of a sub level called label called pro vogue and it was really in that blue's Er Aren B rock kind of Ballpark. and. I was really proud of it and they put it out and you know I think they sold like you know eleven or twelve thousand units out of the box, and then it was Kinda like it just it was like the gave up you know they did some lyric videos and the contract had called for them to to do some real videos and real promotion and They really hadn't kind of lived the contract, and so you know when they came to me and said, all right you know we're. We're supposed to pick up the option for the second record and You know we. We don't want to have to give you the money that the contract calls for and I said you know what? On like just let me out of the contract. Let's let's just drop it and I'll move on you know. So that was the end of that with Mascot Provo but that record was called res- Nine Rei. The ban was called resolution islands like Rick. Amit my initials are e solution and. The ban was kind of you know named solution nine. So it was resolution nine hough. Any outfit was I loved making the record and here's a sweet thing you know just for your listeners. when I was GONNA do it. I wanted to go back a metal works and I wanted to go into studio on the just like you'll days and Gilmore said Yeah Yeah you know you come on in you write your own ticket here and I and when I went to pay him, he said no, no I don't want your money I said no, you know I'll pay the Bill I. You know I've got a legitimate budget and everything he goes no, don't want your money you know but I said well, let's give the money to charity and he went yeah. Okay we'll do that. So it was great. It was kind of like. Coming Full Circle and and picking up a loop of Gilmore and there with great. Was One of the reason. What will two quick things on this first of all, there's a lot of people that just assume because triumph and rush are both from Toronto both trios that you guys had a lot of. Crossover during the decades know each other very well, that's not entirely true. I guess you've done some stuff with Alex but I think it was was Mike or Gill. told me. You guys actually never even did a show with them ever in your history. So the idea that to Toronto bands trio's around the same time had a lot of history together is actually not accurate is it? No although if you took the two. Days especially in the early days of the two bands, you would see that there was a lot of overlap like that they would break in markets and then you know we were Kinda riding on their coattails and we were able to go in to markets and in Texas and Ohio, and Michigan, and they'd already had some success in broken some radio until it made it kind of the allowed easier for. So we always felt I always felt a you know an indebtedness to them, and when the in the early days of the band try was pointing bar and you know. It's been made famous by the fact that Mike Myers added in his you know movie where he played the road a you know I'm not worried he ends this yeah and Wayne's world was like the gasworks he called it and it was this now in Toronto it was way more of a of divey bar on young street small kind of beer joint but every band that was on its way was going to play that place to gasworks so Russia there and I'd seen them there it back in the day when they had John Razzi was the drummer and getty used to paint his fingernails black and stuff it was. It was great. And Alex was amazing. He was fantastic and those days anyways would try play there. He Alex came he was at the bar having a beer and you know I got to talk to him and and So our friendship started up. I was never really close to the guys I mean everybody knows that neal was an extremely private kind of guy and you know even when there were industry events and things like Neil, he wouldn't he. He might show up for you know a minute and a half on stage and then he'd be gone. You know you'd never seen him. So and and getty you know he he's I don't really know him either the the way most Canadian people know Getti- is because he's got seats right behind home plate for the Games and win their televised. You can see getty sitting in the second row they're keeping score and having a hot dog and. So. We don't we don't see getting much either but Alex, gets around like Galaxy. A club in Toronto, and he would sometimes get up on stage and play with the deck stairs and. So yeah. You know he's he's he's a bit more of a kind of an outgoing kind of do plays, golf tournaments and things and. Is One of the reasons rick that you initially left triumph back then was to pursue. All these genres of music you've done on these solo records that are being released was that the catalyst for you did you have an itch to show other sides of you're playing into, be able to have a lot more creative freedom go into these different places musically. Yes. Short answer is yes. The long answer is you know when you've played in in a rock band Ted, you know an international record deal and you've done really well and you're you know you've been on MTV and stuff there's always going to be pressure from you know agents and managers and record labels and stuff that they don't want you to change. You know they don't want you to change from being what you've been established at into some kind of you know David Bowie character overnight. That's a guy that's going to change his image and his direction with every album stuffed. Pre you know my career hadn't been predicated on being that kind of an artist. So you know they're trying to keep you in the. The mold that they've created for you and that they know they can exploit I. Mean I can remember the first album You know shopping it around and try to make record deals and some people even like an arm and a record companies going well, you're almost forty. Now you know like year old we you know we can't do. We don't want to do a record. Deal with an old guy, you know anyone forties not old you know. But of course, that's the way some people in the in show business thing you know, and then of course, in Canada, there's record company people in they're saying, well, we need hard rock songs. You gotTa have some things that we can take FM radio and I'm going guys FM radio is changing you know like. Kanye's sort of lot want to try and start evolving towards being more of a singer songwriter type guy and they're going oh Geez no not faster. Rick don't do that. We need rock records and especially the second of the three records that I made always called him. so facto. The, it was a real schizo record. He had sort of three personalities on it. It had to singer songwriter that I wanted to be the finger style, jazz guitarist, and and. Of Acoustic folk kind of Bitar pieces, things that I wanted to do and then. The fact that the record company said, no, no, you gotTa Rocky gotTa give us rock. So then there like six songs that were really hard rock. But the record was skit. So you know. So it took me a while and it it. The other thing Eddie is vanity you know you like. Once, you've sort of been the guy that's like you know you're having a lot of success. In, order to go to shows limousines and you know there's you had to put in a a periphery on your property. You know get a guard dog and put a camera at the front door because you know you're. That level of popularity it never really mattered all that much to me but it was it was my life. It was part of who I was at the time and then eventually you think, okay think I wanna make some jazz records. There's people going. Are you nuts amit like jazz is like one percent of the marketplace like you're cutting yourself off at the knees and go yeah I don't care like what I wanna do is sort of. Pursue the things that. Matter to me, I've only got this one life to live and You know I think I'm GONNA. Do what I can to make mine instead of you know having. And as much as I respect audiences you know. Sometimes. I think he got poke them a little bit and go nope. Sorry. I'm I'm trying something else I've indulged you. I've given you what you want. Now you've got sort of indulge me I'm going to try try something of my own. Well that that by nature is what being an artist is about you don't want always paint with the same colors every single time you paint, and there are those that at some point, just WanNa go out and try that especially after they had the big success and establish that already. Rick just for people listening who want to check out all this music that you made outside of triumph and part of this reissue is it is it being reissued in physical form? Is it available streaming? Where can people actually get it? Well I would think it's available at all of the standard digital retail kinds of download places, I tunes, Etcetera Etcetera it's also streaming now for the first time in its life, the catalog at places like spotify and Pandora, and all of those things and If they want more information on it all they can check round hill records, but they can also find links. And things from my store at Emmett. Dot Com. So there's plenty of places they They could just Google Upper Kamat and eventually they're going to be able to find their way to the stuff and it's all just digital download at this point but I think you know, round. Hill. We'll be looking at it and saying just as they've done with the triumph catalogue. which they you know they've done vinyl for some of the records there. I think they're doing a big box set. That's going to come early next year. So you know I think they might look at my stuff and depending on how does they might say, yeah, you know what? Let's let's do something and vinyl or let's let's do a run of CDs or Hey Ricky WanNa, sort of do a compilation packages some of these things and we'll maybe remastered up and we'll put something out so but I think they're probably just you know this is a litmus test obviously if it Felt Great. Then they'll probably go yeah rick it's really been nice knowing you. The last thing on the solo stuff is. In all the years that you've done that, and I followed your career pretty closely that you went from playing to huge stages around the world with triumph, and then you went into that world and you change gears musically a little bit. You did a different mix of music and it found you found yourself. I'm sure playing in much smaller venues and probably in places in ways you had not done in a very long time I mean. I know having myself having heard about you know people reach out to me and say, Rik, Emmett is doing this or he's doing a charity Gig at somebody's house or he's doing a jazz club or he's doing this. How was that for you in all these years we're going from you know playing the normal domes of the world with a big rock band to then suddenly finding yourself in these much more intimate settings. Did you embrace it? Did Yeah I. Loved It, and you know I mean. I I don't want to sound like I'm trying I'm trying to make it sound like I. Did I truly did but I think one of the things that made it feel so normal and natural and comfortable for me was when you The triumph rise to success had been pretty meteoric more or less. It had happened pretty fast. We started in seventy five. And then between the three of us the attitude was, hey, you know we don't really wanNA open for anybody we want to have a big show. So we're going to put together our own big show have our own sound and lights. Our own trucks were gonNA roll this big production around, and so we're GonNa, we had to play theaters and then arenas almost right away. So by the time we were into nineteen, seventy, eight, seventy, nine, the band had become a an arena headlining kind of act we we. Hardly open for anybody ever we would play our own smaller theatre shows and and go from there. So but you know when my life changed and I ended up becoming more of an intimate kind of acoustic performance And your playing smaller places. It's almost like I was finally getting to play. You know the hundred and fifty three, hundred seat Kinda rooms that you know I'd missed almost entirely on the way up and in a way be because of the music that I wanted to make and. I mean for your listeners can probably tell I'm a bit of a sort of Irish blarney storyteller You know I like to talk between songs when I was in triumph. Was the guy that SORTA did all the talking between songs Mike and Gil I, never talked I'll i. Yeah, all ever did was sing and play. That's what I did. So it was kind of fun to be able to make the connection and I'm just GonNa say this for the benefit of you know whoever's listening. What when you're a performer and you're playing in front of you know. I. Don't Know Festival two hundred and fifty thousand people or you know the Houston astrodome and there's you know a hundred thousand people there like. You don't really see them the lights come on and you it's a huge stage and you're a long way back from the from the where the barricade is and stuff there's not really any connection being made but when you're in a small club and there's people that are sitting like literally within two or three feet of the stage. Then, you really feel like it's almost like it's a living room certain circumstances and you really feel the connection and you know I'll tell you if if if I could put a hundred thousand people and I could feel like you know had one hundred thousand people in the palm of my hand and the you to do it and and rolling stones and you know there's lots and. Lots of people that have that ability to literally have the the giant crowd in the palm of your hand and in tribes case we had some moments where that happened and it's an amazing feeling. It's unbelievably great feeling but it's exactly the same feeling. If it's only fifty five people out there you know if there if you can hear a pin drop and they're in the same place. Musically artistically, they've connected to the same thing that you're putting out. Then that exchange of energy is happening and that loop is there and it's a beautiful thing it's I Dunno I mean to me it's like communion. It's like it's like you're in church and something spiritual is going on. It's a beautiful beautiful feeling and it doesn't need to be. Thousands of people it's it works with. you know twenties. Hundreds you know it works What can you tell the audience? If you can't give us an update on the triumph doc Sam and his crew were came to my house probably about a year ago at this point and asked me to do a little interview for it, which was I was honored to do and I know there's been various events and things that have been going on that have been filmed to lead up to the documentary coming out where do things stand what's the timetable for it to come out what you know about it? Well I've seen a second rough cut and senior lovely face and her nice words and. You're in there, you didn't end up on the cutting room floor usually I do. Well that's good. That happens to the best of US Eddy. I've had plenty of my finest moment. I happened off camera. So anyhow. Yeah. They were intending to try and. Get a big splash during the Toronto international film. Festival. This fall and the film festivals obviously changed because covert times and so everybody's schedules have been screwed up including bangers in their ability to sort of be editing the thing and stuff because they couldn't even get into their offices and had to shut them down. So people were working from home and renting editing suites and you know whatever so I do think they're pretty close to being finished the last communication add by email with Sam done and Margaret here Deli the the two principle is the. The director producer and the Kinda cameraman editor Guy You know they're ready to sort of put it to bed. They're doing all of the final things that get done with films of looping and sinking, and and all of that and there's animation sequences and things that are in it So you know I still think they're looking for the fall and you know it might just end up going direct to Netflix's or something. I don't know they they here's easy top one that sort of ended up on Netflix and things and so they may just follow the same wrote for distribution of that because of the covid implications playing out in the marketplace but. I don't know how to my hands. It's not my thing is there. So you know whatever happens happens it was surreal doing that thing by the way like I mean it was nice to see you on there and talking and they've got all kinds of people in there. They they had new June Alaska I saw the Ted nugent. John Five said some really lovely things about my guitar playing that was a lovely surprise was really cool But it's a surreal thing that here's sort of like Eric. This is your life you know or at least this part of your life from way back in the past and It's weird that you kind of go right? Yeah and then of course you getting different perspectives, I mean I know what it was like because I lived at but you know that's only my perspective of it's not even necessarily what Mike Can Gills perspective was and. You. Know. Not. Yours not, Ted nugent. So it's it's kind of funny when you see all these other folks talking about it. and. Now, and now you're in the room you know and it's it's it's almost like you're getting to go to your own funeral. There's. No it's like, wow, this is what they're going to say when I die. Won't. Memorial anyhow. While I guess that's the case Yeah I could see you take it from that perspective and I think everybody's perspective on any band is different based on how they were exposed to it and what their take was on it I mean me being living in new, Jersey my whole life i. think there's probably a different view on triumph than somebody who maybe is from San Antonio and Texas where you guys had so much early success and we're like you know such a bigger act regionally so I, think there is a lot of that I gotta ask you this real quick before i. Let you go the question like the last time triumph played and when I was with you guys a couple years ago in Toronto everybody seems really content and happy with what's going on their life. Now, Gill with the studio Mike had just come from Jamaica was very ten you doing your thing everybody seems very content in having sort of retired triumph. But is there any scenario you see this film is successful and elevates awareness for the ban that you guys would play together again Well I mean I still actively do a lot of playing like for example, before I got on the radio with you here I was practicing guitar 'cause. I'm going to do a session on Monday with a friend of mine where it's Kinda like Ray Charles, blues country kind of a thing. So you know and I did our country thing. Last week a little video thing that'll be up on zoom whether Qatar player named. Nathan. Whitney who's the league guitar player in Thomas Rats banned in the states and he was a former student of mine and he's an unbelievably great country where so I've I've you know I have these things that I do the I I'm going to be doing one of the rock and roll fantasy camp things again on zoom you know later on August. So there's things where I kind of keep my chops up but you know in triumph Gildas really play he doesn't like he had to really work is trump's backup. We did a thing for the for the documentary where we played three songs as a as a surprise that fan fasting and he had to work really hard for about a month and a half just kind of get himself back up into playing shape to be able to make it through three songs you know. So I don't think Mike plays much either on his own although I think it's a little bit easier to get your your erode chops back backup on a base that than it is if you're going to be. You know lead guitarist lead singer or drummer lead singer. So that's part of it too is the singing like. I don't know if I'd like I, you can change the keys of songs. You can tune guitars down a little bit and you know you can do it but. there's a party also that kind of goes well, you know. It's it's it's a lot of work and I think Gill probably looks at it and goes yeah you know what I I. Think I'd rather go play golf. Sorry. and. He's not saying, sorry, you know to himself. You know he's saying sorry to the fans that might want it. He's saying story to us and I don't say sorry to me. You know because I get it I and I would never want WanNa force somebody to do something that they didn't really want to do you know and a lot of germs get to gills agent stage they can't really play a full set now. anyways their backs are bad. You know they got arthritis in their elbows drummers really do take a punishing kind of You know the lifestyle is very punishing and Yeah I mean you know I think I added many years to my ability to do by getting out of Iraq band and not having to jump off term risers not having to sing at the top of my lungs night after night after night with all of the flash powder in the air you know like. Yeah I. I don't think I'd ever take it back on the road again Eddie. Yeah I'll tell you I respect where you're coming from because my biggest problem is you I always have this thing where you gotta know when to say when and I would much rather have my last memory of abandoned I. Love being that they were strong and great and sounding good. Man They were really creaky and the singer couldn't sing in the drummer was missing beats and it was just a mess and a train wreck. So you gotTa know when to say when and I respect that unfortunately I think there's a lot of bands that don't know when say when and there's many that are out there. That probably shouldn't be still and they're using electronics and running tracks and lip synching and that that's there's no excuse for that. That's maddening and crazy to me. I won't accept that. So I respect the hell out of people that know when to say when and and you guys have been very content with that. The the last thing I promise the last time you did play when you did Sweden and you did Oklahoma and I was at that show hosted it did you do looking back on those? which I believe are the final ever full triumph performances? Were you happy with those performances or you did you think in retrospect they could have been better. A little of both I mean it was obviously a extremely satisfying on sort of a emotional spiritual internal kind of level for us that you know we were coming full circle and making this thing happen and the thing that we did for the documentary and people are going to see that footage that was an extremely amazing fulfilling kind of thing I mean imagine if you can get two hundred a year greatest fans from all over the world and they're in a warehouse there watching a movie and they no. Idea, that the band's GonNa play and the movie sorta gets to attend the scream of the of the projection screen drops and there's the band with gear and we start playing the song and they went insane and you know it the energy in the room was just it was it was crazy was like a nuclear reaction and it and it was an amazing thing and and you know the cameras captured at all. So that kind of thing is amazing. Now you know your ass more about Sweden and Rockland. Those shows like in Sweden they had cameras rolling and they were shooting for Swedish thing and there was a dvd made of it and stuff but you know it's one of those kinds of things where well, they didn't exactly have the monitors one hundred percent together and all the first two songs. My the MIC was on my guitar speaker slipped and fell off of the Mo- stand, and so they didn't even have my guitar in the PA for the first song and you're going like. You know Geez you know these kinds of things they do happen, but it's a drag on it happens and it's you know it's a one off you know. But if you're on the road and you get, you know twelve songs, twelve gigs in a row then you know there's a there's much less chance that something bad is going to happen. Everybody gets Kinda gets in a groove and and those kinds of things don't happen you know but And in Sweden I had a Migraine they afternoon before we had to go on so had to give a doctor and had to get a shot of item and be you. Had to take a bunch advil and so I was a little groggy on stage that night like I made it through and did it okay and I think he's saying okay for a guy that was you know A little medicated but you know I you know I wish I could have done it and been you know one hundred percent you know. Rachael, Homa. If you'll recall data tornado that came and ripped through the thing, the night before we played so. You're. Thinking Oh God they're going to be you know hope the PA tower didn't get blown over I. They solidified it. You know all the tents around the perimeter you know and it wasn't bad. It was fine. But and we think we play better rock home than we did in Sweden. but it was hot and it was windy and it was weird and The, other thing was now we knew that was the last one and I think Gill had might he might even said to us you know guys this has been very interesting. He brought his family down to Oklahoma yet his daughter there. And I think he's son was there too and and his wife and and I think He's Ki- kind of said you know I just want my kids to see me but this is gonNA cause this is going to be it I think I wanNA hang up I don't WanNa do anymore and I don't think I wanNA take it on the road now. Is it possible that Gilmore might change his mind? Yes have I seen him change his mind? Yes sure. But generally I kind of feel like you know that was the end and so because it had that feeling that this might be the very end. You know there was a kind of A. That's like a bittersweet thing. You know I just wanted to mention this too. By the way you know let me go I did a couple of those rock cruises and didn't headline but the last one I. Did I think they had Sammy Hager was on it and I think Frampton was one of the headliners. Frampton? When I saw him play I was so impressed because musically he was excellent. He saying great the ban was unbelievable like clearly he doesn't move the way he used to move and you know. The guy that was the every little girls pinup dream back in the Frampton comes alive or with all golden locks and stuff I mean, you know he's this kind of bold little skinny guy now you know and apparently now he's got a health problem where he's done his final tour and and It's it's finished for him. He can't really physically carry but you know for for for a guy that was carrying around a bit of a physical. Disability. He sounded employed really really good. So I do think there are some artists that are able to make transitions and and They still deliver fantastic stuff in their old age. You know it was great to be able to go and see Peking in his seventies and eighties. You know like 'cause that's BB. King. No, I. Chair he's got diabetes. Okay. But still that's pb you know and it wasn't too bad. He was. All right. He could still kind of do the blue shout and thing and. So. You know there are some musicians that can do it and Then, there's others that are maybe. Digital Technology. Yeah I agree with you completely on. Frampton. Though I, saw him at NAM he was incredible. Hey, rick I. got to wrap up I appreciate so much time everybody checkout Rick's catalog available. Now on round, Hill can't wait for the documentary you know where to get me we'll do more when the film comes out I'm sure and and be well you and your family. Okay we'll talk to you soon. Thank, came to you. Thanks to recommit much appreciated. Looking forward to that triumph doc that should be great and check out his solo music which is now available on the digital platforms he talked about we'll be right back with skid row's Co founding member Rachel Bowl and talk and rock music and talk and soap. Yeah. His new business soap that's all next. This is the Eddie Trunk podcast. Welcome back Eddie Trunk here with you on this week's Eddie Trunk podcast. We now check in with skid row's CO founding member and bassist Rachel Bolan talking about a bunch of stuff including his new line of soap call dirty rocker here's Rachel been a long time since I've talked to this guy on the air I saw think last on the monsters of rock cruise where they kind of did a quick hitter one big performance in the in the theater and then they were they were just vanished. They destroyed that theatre on the ship and then just poof seemingly disappeared but they left a mark that's for sure Rachel Bolan of skid row joins me right now. How are you brother? It's been a while. Hey. Man We're looking for the the bill to all the destruction in that theater, but that's why we get off of both. So quick. It was a hell of a performance but yeah, you guys were Kinda scarce. That's how you like to do it. Right come in stealth. Do the show, play the hits and you're out of there. Yet don't leave any scars just get out of there man. It was fun that was the first monsters Iraq cruise we did and it was a blast man. Yeah you guys were great. You had that theater packed man it was unbelievable and it was the one performance you did on the ship and it was it was really good. So all decades I've known you I never thought among the things that that will talk about I never thought I'd be calling and having a conversation with you on the radio about hygiene. And soap. Surprising news well, then it's just something that happened I. Guess when you get older. Well. Let's talk. Let's start with this because you have a new project called dirty rocker soap. I know you sent me some. It didn't get to me in time but I look forward to trying it out and you know all these artists as we know in many of them are friends of UN, die they sell coffee or they sell liquor or they sell beer, they put their name on something. Tell me how you got into the soap business. Well strange like it was. Pouring as much as we do and I You know a lot of times hotels. So just like dry you out or you know the then there's a lot of allergies that come with it sometimes, not all of them but sometimes. And I was like Oh, man if I could only have a soap that I like I could carry with me and just I never really found it and my friend was making soap and I used her sounds like Oh. My God this is amazing. So that's what I carry it around and this has been going on for like a year and a half I'm like. Well, let me come up with a name and whatnot, and that's what I did. I just secured the name and came up with some formulas with her and with all this downtime. We have now launched the company and it was just Shirley by coincidence otherwise, it may not have been out for another two years. And the response has been overwhelming man like. Just doing interviews about so it's really funny I got the text from you the other day like, Hey, do I heard you got so let's talk about it and I'm like all right cool you know and So that's kind of made happen and it's been fun man just coming up with different as an another avenue to be creative and another avenue to you know to to interact with skid row fan and they're coming up with ideas that they shoot me and I might not get back to them right away but I'm listening to all the ideas. So it's It's been a lot of fun and like I said an overwhelming response. When I saw you mentioned it on your instagram and and then I. I wasn't quite sure if something that you were actually doing or just something that you were you know promoting for somebody else. and. So I saw it there, and then what happened was idea did I did some sort of like? Tutorial online for for people who want to learn about broadcasting and this woman. was on the zoom and she said to me and I'm trying to start a podcast I'm trying to understand how to get people to to listen and I talked to Rachel Bolan about his sopra mentioned his soap and I said to her wait a minute wait a minute. So Rachel's actually selling this open and that's when I reached out to you because she brought it up to me and I just thought it was really interesting because you know there's a difference between is you know just throwing your name on something and letting unbranded with you or your band versus being hands on with it? No Pun intended but it sounds like you're really hands on with this. Yeah absolutely, this isn't a licensing thing or. Situation like that at all this is something that that I. Put a lot of time into and with my friend Jeannie Zone who helped me formulates and stuff 'cause she's been doing so for longer than, I have and then my girlfriend comes up with formulas and we just tried out and. If we like it. We hope that other people like it, and that's when I put it out and everything's all natural. What we do and it's man's been a lot of fun. It's been a lot of fun because you feel like a mad scientist sometime. Sometimes, you're like, what if we mix this with this in your make it and you may love it or you may hate it but it it's. It's just been a lot of fun and you know it's growing quickly so I can't complain about that. Can I can I ask you something that may seem like a really dumb question, but I, really don't know the answer to this. What what is so like what like like giving example, a friend of mine actually, my cousin sells paint for a living and one day we're sitting around for a few beers and I just thought for a second I took a step back ago what the fuck is paint like. Just makes a bunch of chemicals. Right. But we only use. So every day WHOA. What makes a bar of soap is what are the ingredients? What do you do? Well I. If you're saying just a like a regular block of unscented soap, you have your oils or fats like I use coconut oil and olive oil, and then you have to use sodium hydroxide, which is lie and you use it in. In the formula that works. Up against the oil, it's all pretty simple but you could really mess up a batch if you don't get the the mass right and That's basically what it is. I mean you look at fight club and it's fast and lie. They're making her so proud of and it's not quite that simple. There's a formula to it but it that's what. So fans man and some distilled water. In the So this. So this soap is call dirty rocker and and you and your. So you are actually making this like you and your girlfriend and your friend like you were actually mixing these ingredients trying them, and then you come up with assent or feel that you feel really works, and then that's the one you say, okay, we're GONNA box this up. This is what we're going to sell because when I asked you to send me some you had said that it wasn't even ready yet. I guess it's doing so well, you're out of it. Well that part of the yeah because we sell out quickly making a small batches are getting bigger each to run but from the time you make yourself in time you pour it. All the time he's the cell is about three three and a half weeks the way that we do it So that's why I could send it to you and I'm like, but don't use it yet because you're gonNA use it and it's just GonNa be it's GonNa fall apart in your hands. You know it's GonNa. Let me get a lot of suds and then your bar soap is going to be gone. You know there's So you have to wait for secure as. It's Kinda like cement. You can't walk on it until it's completely cured you know but Yeah you yeah. You just have to wait and and there it is. That's soap making. and Are you actually doing this in I. Know You live in Nashville now but are you actually doing this in your house or is this being done? He farmed out somewhere? No it's it's everything is done here in my house and at my friend's house since she lives right down the road. And how can people get this? Where's the website if they want to order it? What? What are they did? Where do they go? dirty rocker soap co dot com. And you're to that. Directly. or through the Instagram, which is dirty rocker so And is your goal like where do you? WanNa go with this. Do you do you want to make bigger or I'm assuming if it keeps doing while you're going to run with it? Would you like to farm it out to have a company deal with it or you just? Like at this level that you want to keep it. No I would love for it to get get larger. Just it's all about quality control I don't want anything to change. You Know I. Don't want it to be mass produced to the point where it's just. It it strays too far from what we're doing. Now, you know I if. It were to get get to the point where huge distribution it would. It's GonNa take a while because I'm not gonNA. Let it go out and not be as good as it is now. Do you know anybody else in the music world making like. This. Have you really found the hole in the market I don't I don't know anyone that's doing and that was kind of my motivation to because you know everyone like you were saying everyone has a coffee or bees or a beer and a hot sauce, and I was just like what isn't everybody doing? And that was kind of a catalyst as well. I just wanted to try something different. You Know Me Dude I always take the road less traveled. Go, against the wind. Under. A little travel that I needed a machete to make a road you know. What's going on with the record man I mean I finally had a chance to see you guys the one time. I got a chance to see you as EP was on that cruise and not performance and I know you. You know I've been in touch with snake and Scotty and I know you guys have been you know working a lot and then this pandemic hit what's been the impact on the record and where does things stand with a new skid row record? Well we're. We're still you know like you said pandemic hit and we're all still kinda coming up for air and trying to figure this all out. But the the making the record tiny came to a screeching halt. For a couple of reasons for the pandemic one and two we. had a bunch of songs recorded and then all. Got On zoom call and. Pick out the ones we didn't really. Feel strongly about. Excuse me. So now we're back in the writing phase. And we're just writing and there's no real rush for anything anymore because you know who knows how long this is GonNa last sober just. Putting stuff together Sending ideas to each other because none of us live in the same state you know we got California Tennessee Georgia New York and the UK so it's It's pretty challenging but everyone's gotta set up at their house or set up at their disposal that we could throw ideas around to each other and then I'll take them in put a quick rough Mixon here at the studio and he will listen to it make changes and it's just you know it's funny my friend and I were talking and we're the same age and. I'm like you know for new guy but like. You guys in bands that are younger these days. This is probably nothing like writing through the over the Internet and Zoom songwriting and just sending each other just for us. It's really different. We were at the age. Okay. I have an idea. It'll be there on a cassette in a weekend. Man We all can't get together and rehearsal, and because we live so far apart but we're This is unchartered territory for us but we're we're making it through but for next year we are we have a world tour that scheduled. Hopefully it happened You know we're just saying if this pandemic things out and we could we're not gonNA put any of our fans endanger. We're not GONNA, put ourselves in danger, but the plan for next year is a thirty anniversary slave to the grind tour. like I said, world tour is planned through the album in its entirety, and then we're going to do a bunch of stuff to coincide with it We're we're pretty site. and and the shows are booked we just. We'll keep our fingers crossed that everything is. GonNa come to pass. Well, you guys were on. You guys are going to be part of that tour with rat and Kiefer and slaughter that should have been out. Now it had to be that that would have been really the first large scale touring like that that you guys did at least in America in quite a while. So how to be a bummer to see that come down? Yeah it was weird 'cause the sales started strong and then boom it hits and and. Now that that's were I believe has been canceled all of our other stuff has been pushed to next year and that includes the states and Europe So it, it will be cool to go out there and do the. Play for the grinds up bottom. That'll be fun. Well. Yeah. I mean Gosh. It's hard to believe it's been thirty years, and of course, last year was thirty years from the debut album. I'm sure you're well aware your former singer went out and played the full record Sebastian did that and is going to continue to do it. You guys did not do anything really to mark the debut records thirtieth anniversary. What are your thoughts about all? That was that one just one you didn't want to tackle or the didn't work out. The timing really didn't work out yeah. That that was it and we were planning We had so much other stuff plan and then also boom. It was here and you know maybe down the road maybe fortieth. Well. Worth thirty five or whatever the case may be. Are you are you somebody that is kind of like nostalgic? Are you like now? Obviously, you're going to celebrate now slave. which is an amazing record but like like for me and I've known you guys since you know hell before you were signed. It doesn't like when I hear these numbers like thirty years since the first record in thirty years coming up on slave it just doesn't feel like it was that long ago. It feels like yesterday we were kids in studio one. Hanging out like does it does it blow your mind that this time has gone by. It really does I if if Someone says like I'll I'll find out about anniversaries of skid row certain anniversaries online because I it was. It's just went by like in a blink of an eye and people sales can I give? Okay came out on this day on this day the single was released. I'm like, wow, this is crazy. That has been thirty years. You know twenty five years for this and that and the other thing and it's like. It it blows my mind how quickly time has passed and that and leading up just. Backtracking, a little bit to the. The situation where now it's pandemic, it's like. We were on the road for so much of that. The better part of thirty years and it's like now's the time to and not just us like a lot of band. Tour constantly. So now's the perfect time to sit back. Take stock in your life reflect on your life and and just really enjoy this downtime and make the best of it. Make the best of a not great situation and it's the perfect time and be creative in whatever avenue you go whether you're a pain you're going to paint or you're gonNA spend you're gonNA write songs or whatever you're GonNa pay so just you know this is the time to be creative i. have a feeling when you know the smoke clears there's GONNA BE Like such a like. A mountain of art that's GonNa come and hit everybody and there's GonNa be some really cool things whether it's music or or or water movies whatever it is. 'cause people are creating and creating and creating, and I love it man. I, absolutely loved the idea of. What good times they're going to be again. The other day I was in the supermarket and over the music system. I remember you played and I was just like. Crazy like. Like I would just in this setting like what's happened like this is just nuts and you know for you I mean it'd be something. I'd I would think you'd be really proud of, but what are your thoughts I mean when you hear? Those songs and when you are you somebody that goes back I mean, no, you play stuff from the first two records all the time. But do you when you put yourself in that space of thirty years ago and writing those songs with snake and the what what comes in your mind does it take you back to being kids writing those songs or do you do you reflect on all the time like wh- what do you think of as as one of the people that created that? Yeah I mean my my big thing when I hear it or when we play it even when we're on stage I if it goes through my head what where we work when we did like snakes living on my back on my house when I lived in Jersey this. And it. It just POPs in my head or something. Event that happened during it or snowing outside remember having the like I split into a snowbank on the way the snakes out you know stuff like that and it it just from a real personal standpoint and then you know we play a song and still to this day when I see people just. Singing our songs, a- At back to us, and now they have their tenure, their their younger siblings with them. It absolutely blows my mind man the first time. I ever saw like someone with a little kid under shoulders was that a kiss concert and I it was probably like the third concert. His concerts that I went to and I was just like, wow because at that point they had been around maybe you know ten years or so and I'm like, all right. Okay this is cool. This is very cool. You know and I never thought that would happen with us, and now it does and it blows my mind man and believe me I don't take a second of that for granted. Yeah it's really. Stopped me when I was pushing my cart in and heard that come on in the mix because. Again, going back so far with you guys I just you know these are my friends I mean on these guys forever and I my mind just like again, it feels like studio one or the Stone Pony was like yesterday and I'm like I guess this is that now I guess it is. The obviously, they're not gonNA play a piece of me in the supermarket, but I was just like it just doesn't feel like it would ever occupy that space because it hasn't been that long but it has. I know it went by so fast to. So fast like thirty years. There's been a blink of an eye man. It's crazy. I found the ticket stub the other day in my drawer I literally stumbled upon it at the Stone Pony. eighty-eight before just when you guys got signed and played the Pony and and I was just like you know this is thirty two years ago this ticket stub it's just ridiculous man that's crazy rates. You may have heard as we went into the break a little bit of a song from the third skid row album subhuman race, which is the one I'm waiting for the thirtieth anniversary full performance of but something tells me in five years I'm not getting that. AM I. I. Have a feeling the Baotou people in the front row. Me, and who else? Funny like. motoring he'll be there. He's always telling us to do breaking down. He'll be there you guys front row and that's it. Dude subhuman race I gotta say, honestly for me might be my all time favorite skid row record I mean it I can't i. know you guys don't feel that way but I can't tell you how much I. I have I know knowingly so over the years but I worship that record Was He just for you for the band like, was it just the timing of it? That just? 'cause could do you. Do you guys how do you feel about the material or and do you have like? Awareness about it just because the ban was imploding imploding. Well that was happening, but that's not that's not what makes me feel the way I do about the record it's just. The whole experience from top to bottom wasn't great by thank me except for the songwriting I thought was fun and there are songs on there that. I like a lot We. Do beat yourself blind every now and then we done acoustic shows and we can break down at the acoustic shows but Yeah. I don't know it's just one of those records. Our time was up. You know what I mean at that point there. There was changing of the guard as far as. What what was in? So we have that against us, we had the turmoil in the band within the band against us and it's just the reporting process wasn't what we were used to. So that was against us, but you know what? I. I. Don't hate the record. I. Just I. Wish, the team out differently you know there was a lot of changes to songs that that I wasn't crazy about you know it is what it is man There's definitely songs on there though I would love to do live for sure. Actually we busted out medicine jar when we toured. Australia and that was fun. It was fun to play. Dude I I'm telling you. I mean frozen are you kidding I mean just a heaviness? I. Preach about this forever and fans know it. But I mean I tell people all the time because of the original band it's sort of the forgotten record because it didn't have the big hit it didn't like you said ninety five no matter what you put out then was gonna be swimming upstream but there are a lot of bands that I think we had whether inner turmoil turmoil in the music scene or whatever. But somehow made what I think are incredible records and that's what I think of for subhuman race I mean. It's just I listened to it today like it's still just came out and it. Was a weird time and all, but my God, that record is monstrous in my opinion. So I always just. When my producer asked me well, what skid row songs on like you gotta put something in from. Subhuman as a matter of fact I, Scotty did a guitar thing I. Don't know if you saw it riff master whatever they just came out. You on Youtube. Yeah. Yeah. So He's play he's flight for an hour and a half. He's playing riffs and he opens up saying well, there might be some stuff in here that everybody doesn't know but you check it out and on my Great he's going to give me some frozen and I'm going to get some of Eileen and there's one thing from sub-human I immediately texted and I'm like, what are you doing man? He goes the next time I promise. You is the next time I. Promise you one or two, and for you I'm like all right just for the one or two people standing in the front row. Guy. So. You you're talking about songwriting before and it's pretty amazing to for you to have had a partnership I in this world having a partnership with somebody well over thirty years whether it's marriage girlfriend boyfriend husband wife writing in the same band is pretty amazing how I've. Speak a little bit about your relationship and connection both personally, and in songwriting with snake, which is now gone on for well over thirty years. I mean did you guys know when you first met that you would have that kind of bond I'm sure we didn't but it was the first time we got together to write songs was nineteen, eighty six he worked at the music store. I still living at home and we wrote a couple songs at my house after he was done with work. and. It. clicked. And I knew at that moment that we had something really special. You know creatively. and then you know we were kids man we as far as someone I st or or communicate with there's no one that I do more than snake. You know I know Scotty, longer but as far as as just. Thinking, I talk every day whether it's about business about you know Yankees are great in met suck. Whatever you know we just talk about stuff and It's it's a daily thing, and now we didn't neither one of US could have ever known how How longest was gonna run but you know, we're we're. We, we know each other. Well enough to. Almost sense when something is either going good. If we don't talk or going bad someone's life and you know we call, we call each other and and We sometimes actually finish each other's sentences grossest. That sounds we really do and you know it's GonNa be a this is a lifelong friendship and lifelong partnership and and. You. Know We. We don't agree sometimes we'll argue. But at the end of the day were we're still going to be buds. And still going to be involved in each other's life. Of that very first writing session that you did with him back in eighty six. Any of the stuff that you wrote on that very first day, make it to the first record. No it didn't. I don't believe that if he's listening, he pointed out because he's a better historian than I am but I don't believe it. Did it made it to the demo stage and like Atlantic, heard it and and You know other labels we brought it to other labels but that that I writing session I don't believe anything made it to a record. Was Walk with a stranger part of it. No that that was a little later and. Come out I bring that up because at least was released on that on that forty seasons. I. Think it was on that but that that did make it that actually was recorded at least for the first record. It, was recorded. Yeah. but I know trickster redid it. Yeah. It's on one of their record. So. Yeah so so the first of this stuff on the first record, what was the earliest song that you wrote? make had midnight that was. He wrote that. I think before we met and that was one of the songs on a cassette that he he and given to me. But see are the real early stuff was probably making a mess. But that wasn't super early. Let me think eighteen to life. That was really early. Can't stand the heartache was my idea that I had that I brought in just like he did with midnight. And yeah. I mean it's who talked about going back man. It's all. Well Yeah. Well, well, you know and I bring this up because I think it's when we talk about these anniversaries and everything that me. You know all of us being from New Jersey I remember seeing the band and hearing some of these songs at these clubs I remember seeing you before you were signed I remember seeing you before Sebastian was in the ban when you Had Matt Fallon singing. So I'm giving people deep history of skid row just to Kinda give them the lineage that a lot of people think I it all started when they got that I record in eighty nine but you're ready put in three years of writing and working in lineups and things to figure it all out before the skid row everybody knew from that I record. Oh absolutely that that was written well, before the skid row. You know it's. was skid row I mean some stuff was written before we even change the name scarborough. And It's just yeah it. You have your whole I always say have your whole life right your first record. Yeah Hey, I always wanted to ask you I. Ask you about this too. So I, just watched a documentary about Shannon Hoon, the singer from blind melon. And You know really. A unbelievable documentary because it's all footage, he shot of himself at the time with a hand held camera. But there is a big moment in this storyline. Where he taught were rolling Stone magazine Approaches Blind Melon no rains this huge hit. And they want to do a cover on. Blind melon and of course, that's a huge moment in most spans career and they say to the band rolling stone yet but we only want the singer. We only want Shannon Hoon on the cover and it leads to a big dust up an internal discussion within the band of how that plays and who's GonNa Egos going to be bruised whether it's good for the band whether they don't do it whether they hold out and. I started thinking who else was faced with that decision and how tough that would be and I thought of you guys because rolling stone did a cover piece on skid row and only put Sebastian on the cover. I've never asked you guys this. What was that discussion like internally was that a tough thing to agree to do given especially, how much of you know you and snake even put in the ban before the first record? No it wasn't like we. Didn't know what was going to be on the cover we didn't know whether it was gonna be the the picture, the full page inside or what? But honestly all snake and I cared about is seeing skid row on the cover of rolling stone those two words and whether it was. Sebastian or whether it was my right foot or whether it was snake or whoever it was it those two words skid row on the cover of rolling stone. You know that's all we cared about and. to day it wasn't something that that closed any kind of attention any kind of tension within the band at all. Yeah because I would take the I would think it. Would you know I would think that you know. Egos and whatever come into play and you're like, Oh man I wanna be on the cover to, and then the other side of is like hell man they're doing a cover piece on my band. A-, however it plays out but with this whole bit in this blind melon dock, it was a big thing like the other guys in the van were pissed and then they held out and then they actually held out and ended up getting the full ban on the cover because they Shannon Hoon said, he wasn't going to do it without that. So it was like a big storyline in that new documentary and I was thinking about the same thing with you guys didn't know how played out back then for you. What was funny is someone from rolling saw I forget exactly. What was they go? They never put full bands on the cover and I go whatever. and. Wait for ten ten issues after that full band like, okay whatever. But you know it like I said, get rope. That's all we cared about. I wanna ask you about some stuff past the first three records because for people that don't know there's some real I in my opinion some really good skid row stuff past the first three records that I wanna get your take on real quickly. But one last thing and I got I got ask you this. You know you're not a dumb guy you're really smart guy and. You know that fans who hold out hope for seeing an original lineup or union one day for whatever reason rightly or wrongly they point as to you as the problem. That's Rachel Rachel Rachel. The media perception. That's the fans perception. What do you say to that? Do you take you take that on your shoulders and own that or is there more to it than what the fans think? Well, it's not just me obviously I'd I'd love the fact that they think I real kind of power. You know what I mean. But it we're happy what we're doing man and it just just talking about it get. So old it's like all right I get it. However this is skid row. So enjoy US or forget about us. You know what I mean That's that's where we're at and we're putting together a new record and writing new songs and Z is the man and Rob Hammersmith is our drummer and he kicks ass. So. I I don't know what to tell people at this point it just get so old where you could probably hear my eyes rolling you know and that's the way it is. Well I think a lot of it comes up to given that these landmark anniversary of anniversaries of these records which you said you're going to go out and do slave next year or which will be great. People be very excited about that but that usually comes with the territory as you know. Yeah I don't care where we're going out. This is skid row. We're GONNA play skid row records and celebrate the anniversary of it. The record you made. With. Johnny. Singing. I love thick skin and I still listen to it all the time I think there's great stuff on that record, and then you made a record which know is also difficult record for you guys to make which I don't even know many people know about called revolutions per minute were snake wasn't even all that engaged at the time and you wrote all the songs on it. What's your? What's your take on that period of the ban? Well, one's with thick skin. We were. You know it was the first record with member changes and we just wanted to see. You know I shouldn't say wanted to. We weren't sure what was GONNA happen but we're. We're just put our heads down and wrote and rehearsed and just try to Do things the way we always did it and I'm really really we all are really proud of that record. We've put a lot lot into it. And there's you know we do ghost. In the set and it goes over great and The album seems to be more popular overseas than it is here. But nonetheless, we're very proud of that record. Worn a Becker born a beggar beggars one of my favorite songs and I know that goes back to when you guys were. We're doing the band ozone Monday that that Scott. Some. You know origins there but. You know there really is great material, and then of course, there's a rework you covered your own song in that version of I. Remember you I remember you too. Which I think is a lot of fun and I really urge people to check out that record if they didn't get it the first time around 'cause, there's really some great things on there and what about the follow up I know that was a really tough time for you and you took the whole thing on your shoulders with revolutions but. Do you stand behind that record. Do you like it? Yeah, I do like it Any of our songs, I still hear stuff there I'm like I. Wish we could Redo this but you know it was very tough. It was really tough doing that record we had it was experimental to and we took a Lotta Shit for it. You know for having the country types on on there but we were just like. You know what man we're not expecting a platinum record to show up at the door. Let's have some fun. Let's experiment with stuff and I believe every ban needs to do that and get it out of their system There's there's a few songs on there that I absolutely love. The song disease thanking I wrote is just I love that song and I would like to start incorporating that are set. We're at a point now in our career where we have so many songs and you know just. So much time to do that you know we we love when we're on the road, when could change up and have a an asset list of be set Louis C., set lists and just keep changing it up. So That that that song in a bunch of the others man it was it was just cool cool to just stretch out a little bit and and try different stuff. Yeah there's things that I like on that record a lot. I. Remember we did that Party in Times Square. That's when Piazza got up and sang with you guys. We release at the hard rock I mean there's great memories around that time even though obviously there was you know it was it was a tough period as well, and now the EP is the last things where these two EPA's United World rebellion. Now, the the wrecker working on that will eventually come out which will be the first was EP singing that's going to be a full length record not a thirty P., right? Correct. It's going to be the third installment of the trilogy, but it is going to be land yeah. Okay and last thing, and maybe the most important question of this whole interview interview where are we ought with the nose ring with the chain? Is that happening now or not? You are the innovator you've you've brought it in and out at different times where are we at now with that? Well not wearing it at the moment, but I'm not sock either. I know you saw me when I busted out at Rockwell. Homa the guys especially Scottie has been just. you know nudging me because you got to put that back in. We'll play in this show. You got it back and put it back in and I did it for a few years and then I, I happen to find one before that Rockwell homeless show I was going through some old stuff and I found one I'm like. I'm going to do it, but I'm not gonNa tell anybody and I put it on his dressing room as we were leaving I was walking behind everyone and no one noticed it, and then I passed you and you notice. Saw I. It was so funny everyone started noticing it on stage all the guys like no way. So have you rocked it ever since? Yeah Yep. I am. And then you met we've talked about this before but I, remember that was such thing as you know, and then that woman on MTV copped your look what was her name Jane Child or something. Jane Child, had it. Yeah. She you must have been pissed man, she took your your look. Well. You know what? I wasn't pissed I. I was because I didn't invent it I took it from the sex pistols superfan and she had and I was like Oh that that could be Kinda. Cool I'm just GONNA do a little different and so you know. What what's the saying is you know imitation is the highest form of flattery at probably through that up but you know it was cool at first I was just like this is lame and she's doing my thing and she's all dance music and You know it is. It is. What it is, you know there there was a couple other guys in bands I tried it and. You know I it's like I. I've been no pun intended attached to that look. And whenever anyone mentions by name I just they mentioned. Yeah. The guy some people don't even know my name is just like the guy with the chain family of the year. So I I was going to I was thinking about legally changing my name's of that the guy with the chain from those two the year. So you'd legally changed the third time. Exactly. Uh Man. That's too good. Did anybody like at the height of skit Romania when you were that stuff did anybody ever pull on it or did you ever get caught on anything because that would be painful as a mother I would think. Yeah I. GotTa Call It twice. Just kinda going head banging nuts and it got caught on the tuner of my base and just pulled it straight out of my ear. knows it didn't really come out because it was Kinda class on there, but it would come out of my ear and not saying it didn't hurt my nose hurt like hell. but twice, I thought that I completely ripped my ear lobe open but this is. A long game in the whole and it? For a while Yeah that happened twice on stage but now people would just joke around like, Hey, I'm going to grab it and I'm like you don't want to do that. Don't do that. That's like Zach Lyle tell. While we. WanNa grab as beer and he's like, what can you don't? You don't crap somebody's beard. Exactly it's funny because Zach and I were having that discussion about the the same exact discussion that the last show I saw those guys and. There were talking about the chain and the beard and the you know people just. Deciding, to pull sleep up to see your tattoos and stuff like that. It's like, Hey, man personal space personalities very important. Now more than ever in pandemic times now, more than ever I think social distancing with us for a while so. Without a doubt. Anyway Man Look it's great catching up I appreciate the time everybody in interim while we wait for a new skid row record, everybody checkout Rachel's Line of soap. It's called dirty rocker and you can learn more at dirty rocker soap code DOT COM. That's it right. That's correct. Yeah, and and you have an instagram account for the soap. Dirty. Rocker so Dirty, rocker soap check it out. I'll I'll give our file review once I get mine in the mail rates and let it sit for a little bit if it can. If it can make dirty, I smell pretty it's you know it's good stuff. So There you go. Man Right on brother talking to you good catching up with the amount. Hopefully I know you're national. Now one of these days when things clear I'm going to get down there and do weaker show every rock person in the world is Nashville. So we'll have to have you come incident do a full show one of these days. On their man. All right rates take care of yourself. Stay safe man. Thank you. Well, known that guy for decades know the skid row guys forever Being Fellow Jersey guys pretty much grew up together and Great to talk to Rachel catch up with him a little bit and his soap since that interview is done, he sent me some. It's really really great stuff. So I wish them luck with that new business and look forward to hearing what those guys have in store for some new music hopefully sometime sooner than later. So thanks to Rachel Bolan thanks Rik Emmett for joining the earlier. Thanks Katie. Eras, Ari the producer of the Eddie Trunk. PODCAST and thank you for listening wherever you are in the world and for subscribing, checking it out this podcast with new episodes. Every single Thursday at any trunk on social media you guys have yourselves a wonderful week and I'll see Thursday I'll bring you that Pete Way, tribute that I did on. My Sirius Xm. Show with Mike. McCready. Nikki. Six Joe Elliott and Michael Schenker my goodness it's going to be amazing Again, you don't have to wait if Sirius Xm. It's on demand on their APP if you're outside of America or Canada or don't have Sirius Xm I, will bring it to you next week on the podcast finally as we remember the late. Co Founding. Member of ufo wasted produced records, the Great Pete Way. All right. Have a good week everybody catching next Thursday thanks. Is.

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The dog is pissed off So this is a and casual edition of the seven five. Oh this if he just parked on how powerful. My microphone is So bears really upset. I tried to call down. it's just. It's really windy outside. So that's that's where he comes from I did want to ask you before we started talking football and everything. I thought this question. I asked some friends. What is something Because we're super deep into quarantine coming up on a year. Almost something that was in no way a part of your life before quarantine that now you would consider a major part of your life so give you an example. I have a buddy That i don't think had ever cooked thing in his life like he. Is you know fast. Food all the time whatever and started grilling early on in quarantine traeger completely all out and now like he grills in smokes every day. So that's that's become a big part of his identity that had nothing to do with his life prior to quarantine. Maybe you don't have something like that. But i was just curious if you did as i also be hopping on and off of because of of the pump. It's all good. We all had those distractions his life so that he basically the grill master which is not a bad thing. Consider you know when you grill. You don't have to you know you have to doesn't mess a kitchen up. You don't have to clean up the mass i get all i would probably be claimed games. I gen- i never played jen. Jill pandemic started always get my ass kicked my wife. She takes a fried in that. I would say something. I probably didn't do much. But i i. I like to spend time doing it. And that's been talk more time with my family. My kids at home. More often Which is wisconsin. Sounds a little cliche. But now i don't think we ought spend as much time with our families much But i'd say playing more games and just stuff. That i never did before. It's time to do side think that i think that would be the top of my head You mentioned a mansion. Nells we do these. You order your meals and they delivered home and it's got all the ingredients and every day which is simply fresh that probably A lot of things. I mean that is one of the saints. We don't do and probably just more spend more time cooking and be more staying at home and doing that. Which before jin a game. That i had never played prior to coin. See my mom may display this. When we went over to their house is mexican train. I don't know if it's called anything else anywhere else. Have you ever heard of this. It's it's pretty cool it's A game. I played a lot when i was in college in college. Station is called forty two so it really fun. Domino game This is called mexican train. It's a little bit different but it's fine. it's I i would imagine. I don't know but it's probably great if you have eight to ten people but it's you know we made a work with four and so Something and i did want to give a shadow here. And this is a more of a recent development for me is reading. I'm almost done with With shoe dog phil nights memoir about his rise to fame in nike. But tony we had a message. I got a message on instagram. From a loyal listener said he'd love the seven five. Oh and he wrote a book in if you're watching i'm showing this tony on our zoom car He wrote a book. It's called the iceman. I love the title james massey. I hope i'm pronouncing this correctly so remember a few weeks ago. I said my goal was to read more specifically read fiction and you know not as many football books and stuff like that. This is the plot on the back in postwar chicago a humble ice deliveryman discovers that his son was struck by an unremarkable drunk driver despite the challenges of a police cover-up and the celebrity status of the culprit. He refuses to be denied justice. The iceman will stop at nothing. Even if that means going toe to toe with the heavyweight champion of the world. So i'm excited to dig into this tony. I got you a copy as well. So you sounds like sounds like a great A great book. And i think that that's something i always listen. I would have did more reading. I think my bills. I start so many books get eighty did i get. You know my mind starts wondering and that's the hardest thing about reading reading just got put yourself put yourself in the element and it also read books. It's this kind of like mindless suspenseful or something. You don't have to sutton like the reality. Tv the all the program what you just want to get away from a world we live in now because sometimes it can be really toxic so good for you man. I love the name. Yeah so reading something. I'm spending a lot more time on. And i've obviously played a lot more golf tony's wearing a shirt that says make pardon not war and so that is the plan so making pars. Hopefully i've dialed in the driver. But that's a conversation for different days. So it's really helping me out and i'm really excited about it Before we get started in football playoff football. Because that's what we're talking about now. Have you watched the tiger documentarian. Hbo you heard about it. Read about it so unbelievable. Obviously you heard about it and read about it. And i got turned off at first when it first because it was two parts that came out. You know on cappelli right I got turned off at first because there was a line of logic that it wasn't super accurate and so i didn't give it a shot at i. I haven't watched it yet. Having seen the reviews from the second part. I think i'm willing to watch so you would recommend it. Yeah and i know that tiger my son he what we both watch it said that obviously came out and said he was gonna come out of the book. Now kinda refute. What the you know the truth. And what's true. And what's not true. But look i mean i think it gets into more just And i don't know what his relationship with this law there was and the whole building this you know. This is a crazy Athlete in golfer. This you know the the messiah if you will. But i think it's interesting. I think it's pretty compelling because it really is riveting when you look at his life and i don't know i it doesn't change my thinking or or my perspective tiger. I love tiger human. And i think that i think that people understand that. And it's just something that's really intriguing. I definitely a definitely recommended okay. Well then they're not sure. I'll give it a. It's not super high on my priority list just because again because because you you just don't wanna fall into non impala grace and no rain or is it. What what what. Yeah okay. i'm just. I mean i would like i would love more than anything for to see that story right but And bear obvious agrees. I've got several tiger books but those are generally more about the rise right. I have no issue. I'm not like oh. I don't want my perception of compromise. It's not where i'm coming from. I just i understand like tigers team saying oh it's not super accurate you know. Obviously they don't wanna come on like this is totally accurate. This is exactly how it happened. But i just i guess i'm i'm hesitant to buy like whether that's exactly the way it all in folded. But it's certainly worth watching. And i'm glad that is now the general perception perspective so that i can watch it and say you know what this was worth watching so i'm gonna watch. The recommended it. So tony. i am. I tweeted a screenshot of an instagram post on monday. It was an instagram post off sportscenter and they shared a tweet to lots of social media is going on here. It was a tweet from the nfl memes account which obviously makes fun of different things. Noting thank you appreciate it. Tom brady has been to now one. Nfc championship game since nineteen ninety seven. Tom brady who spent like a billion years with the new england patriots and the afc. Thank you again bear. Tom brady unfortunately in that timeframe. Since nineteen ninety seven has been to the nfc championship game now with the bertha. The buccaneers half more than the dallas cowboys. You liked this image I thought it was funny. Obviously and dak prescott. I'm sure you saw had a comment. Where he tagged zeke instead hold my crutches seemingly saying yeah. I'm going to fix this. Whatever do you think the cowboys can fix this whatever because now we have four teams left. The buccaneers one of them. Obviously visiting the green bay packers the bills and chiefs on the other side. Are the cowboys anywhere near any of these. Four teams you know like the debt comment was trying to make fun of abuse. Fine and finding hopeful. Whatever but i mean a year from now. Is it really possible that we're talking about them being among these final four well. Let's start with the buccaneers defensively. The buccaneers really just stepped up. And you look at how. They played against really prolific offense. A hall of fame quarterback drew brees. They stepped up and made the place. And then you look at the defense may never number one against the run this year. So they're the cowboys are close to them. Because it just the fact that the new defense coordinator so i'm gonna give That's going to be a a no on on that team. Mini you look at aaron rodgers. Green bay packers until dak prescott continues rehab and gets back on the field. I don't if you're if you're going from a one to ten scale of one to ten ten being the highest closest to it. I'll give them a six with that with the me. Look with the bucks bucks or give them a second today. When i look at the aaron rodgers. I'll give them a six also the other two and a afc championship teams buffalo. There another team is playing really. Well may it look i. I think that the cowboys can have a very good offense but defensively. They're close to the buffalo than they are to the other two teams that makes sense. I just because the nature. Those two quarterbacks with aaron rodgers and tom brady he seems ageless just phenomenal. What he's done. in kansas city. Look at us. One concussion away i mean that was just an amazing game mason call by the anime or andy. Reid andy. reid probably had the final. So that the say but that play that he made dollars upton and the go forward and throw a pass and when everything's on the line was remarkable. I think probably a seven or eight. I would say five or six on skela wanda ten. Those two different this just a couple of different. The categories of being closed or. It's it's hard to match because they have have haven't been consistent obviously last year the year before were a little better It's hard for me to imagine after this last year in because of the injury seductive prescott the year before they were locked close than they were last year. Obviously because the injured if that makes If that kind of qualifies my decision. I think it's kind of a brawl teams. I get an average of maybe a five and a half. That's how close the cowboys are on the scale of one to ten ten. Being the highest paid the one to ten metric is a great way to kind of this bear. Dude it's cool. And i know this is really testing your your focus mad as a broadcaster because look man. I mean you start hearing. You're doing five. He's he's very again. It's really really. You go feeding trauma biscuit so i like the one to ten situation. I want to talk about the andy reid. Play call in a second. Because i have something to say that i kind of don't totally believe in that. We'll get there in a second. There's no way the dax going to be trapped. Patrick mahomes right alexa in a healthy patrick mahomes so in that sense. It's kind of hard to convert anyone to kc. Josh allen is right now dealing at an unbelievable level and buffalo's defense stepped up. And i then i don't i don't have any. I mean we'll see what dan quinn brings the cowboys in not trying to coup that right away but i don't have faith right now that he can do what leslie frazier did. And stopping lamar jackson. I don't have any faith in anybody doing that. With the cowboys from a defensive coordinator standpoint the packers are just an overall well oiled machine. I think that that's the team can maybe most become like just because the packers have an elite offense. They have one of the best quarterbacks in the nfl one of the best running backs and obviously the best tried receiver and davante adams and so their success is built on on piling up points offensively but two years ago after they fired mike mccarthy they finally decided to invest on the defensive side of the ball inside area smith and preston smith and so if the cowboys in invest similarly like. That's that's the team they can most become like. I think if if that makes sense and the bucks are just kind of a unicorn. I think i do believe and i know some people would disagree with this but right now patrick mahomes is obviously better than back prescott. Right now josh allens better than dak prescott right now. Aaron rodgers a better than back prescott in terms of who. They are as quarterbacks in the year. Two thousand and twenty one went dak. Prescott is healthy. I think he's better than tom brady. And that's not to say like career-wise whatever just who they are today. I think i would take over tom but again was splitting hairs. Whatever i wanna get. What do you think. That's the stupidest ever heard first of all well when you look at the game against the saints. I don't when you put back in element. It's hard to really compare because tom brady. A you didn't make mistakes. Did really fascinating numbers. But he's able to the thing there will do is kept cashing in on a turnovers. And that's the thing dak. Yeah exactly if tax defense given him fields and everything over and over again. I point is i have just as much confidence in him being able to execute as i do. Tom brady right now and i understand that. You're not looking at the whole resume. What tom brady is because it's not in comparison now but right now when dock itself humor. I guess i'm a little old school. I got now. If it's a i. I i'd love tom brady. It's amazing when he's done but if he gave me a guy that's in his prime to compared to forty three year old. Tom brady i would probably have to go debt prescott but part of me Kinda over his record of his resume. Overshadows leads don. I would say that's a good argument. Take that prescott. I mean he's know he's he's definitely younger and he's got a liberal upside because of his age and his you know his potential future. There's something about you that's just different. Everyone knows it. You're one of a kind and that's awesome but it also makes it really hard to do your taxes. Luckily turbo tax live has a team of tax professionals. Ready to walk you through the process whether you start emceeing kids birthday parties on zoom this year and want to know if you can write off all that base paint or you need some expert advice on all this invoices you've racked up doing voiceover work for podcast ads. The experts at turbo tax live ready for at all. Maybe you've got five questions of taxes this year. Maybe you've got fifty or maybe you just want the pros to violent behalf. Whatever the case the folks at turbotax ready save davis spring turbo tax live. Gives you the confidence that you're uniquely you. Taxes are done right into a turbo tax. Live file with the help of an expert or let an expert while for you. Kevin o'connor of chris burn and where the mismatch and we have. A huge announcement today is about to be fifth. Nba season together. But this year's going to be a little bit different first of all spotify gave us millions and millions of dollars. Wait they paid you a million dollars. They are giving us our own. Podcast feed if you want to keep on listening to the mismatch with me. Kevin follow the mismatch on spotify. And we'll see you. Every tuesday and friday so i wanna make any read point but before i do. I'm curious if because when you played. I feel like people didn't know as much about their approach to diet. I heard troy aikman on the dan. Patrick show on monday talking about how he wished he had approached. You know his dietary regimen. The way tom brady days obviously he actually. I think this was last week. I forget what show is on. But he was on the dan. Patrick show on monday and he talked about how when he was playing. Maybe maybe you're part of this at one point. He said that he had a routine but like every like tuesday was like pizza day and he said like every wednesday was like chinese food day. Whatever surely not die at the. Tom brady has been on. Would you have approached your diet differently. It's it's a different position. I realize your job was to stay bigger. But would you have done that differently. At least you think if if more information had been known when you were playing. I probably wouldn't have gone out as much i think for me. I would go out week. And i'd have one at least once a week during the season that right now get crazy. You know my whole deal is. I had to keep weight on friend. That and i wasn't i was a big strong guy but i was pretty much underside. So for me. I i had an excuse for aiding thing now diets. It's totally different. I mean you could. You could eat the right foods but when you have when you love sweets and someone puts a piece of cheesecake in front of you annual china a diet. You like okay. I'm going to have a piece of cheesecake now. Troy to his point was always in great shape. He's a big dude. And you could never you never would know that he was wasn't eight ride a but i think that tom brady is taken it to a whole different levels floors nutrition and i think he's really kind of a freakish dude that can continue to do what he does. Now because i think a lot of the has to do with james. I think really. It's who you are and how you can sustain. Yeah you can't just tear your body down. You can't eat a bunch of crap and food and everything but I mean it takes a lot of discipline to do. What tom brady has done. And compare into some of these other guys at this eat. Will i mean. I had guys dieted and did everything the correct way and went to jam. And they're the ones that were in the training room also type so it's a good argument but i think as you get older. Yeah in your forties and fifties. Yeah you really have to look back. And say i had to take care but then you gotta take care of yourself when you get extended like when you get the thirty four and forty then you gotta start really china start. Be cognizant of what you don't your body. What's the most shocking thing you saw from dietary standpoint like and i mean like the opposite end of the spectrum like somebody like five water burgers. What's the most insane eating in the. Nfl offer alignment put a number on. What did they. What did they let me tell you. Let me tell you. Something happened when i could eat when i was a senior in high school. This is a true story. I was In attract me state championship up. In oklahoma city i lived in tulsa central high school and we went to we went to the state. Tra track me and i was a shot. Putter and discus throw. It actually did pretty good to horn but obstacle runner up at state but anyway we stopped with the stakeouts called cattle rustlers. It's all you can eat. It's like you know it's it's a steakhouse version of your on his all. You can eat chinese places you know. Go on corral type thing. It's a lack food but but the stakes are good. I had ten little filets. And i believe every eight ounces store got this this this list of a eight. A eight eight Six or eight stakes. Four five baked potatoes holy cow. Yeah salad and you know. He's little loaves of bread. That you get the miniature loeser hot you put butter on. I must have had a dozen those. It's true store. So i could eat now when i got the. Nfl a really troy. They used to come in on a wednesday thursday. So tom mccarey food and they'd bring like you now dental a sandwiches and then he retaliates with bring or a glorious pizza. Whatever it was. It might pizza but i see a couple i see guys take two pizzas. Hold pizzas pizzas. Yeah i like like dude. Look everyone else has got he. And i'm like look over there to make new would have too large pizzas. I'm like dude man. That's why you wait for hundred pounds. Wow that's i don't know do pizza like i feel like i two large pizza like we're talking about the these like eighteen inch the the big pizza right this big if your slots on youtube it's like twice the size of my head just like you know what the nutrition week day was one of a smoothie king. They start bringing a smoothies but it wasn't as long guys that have like three or four of the thirty two ounce soothing. So that's out you're talking about offense alive. Ira et defense alive. Compared to troy's a quarterback he's not every He's six floor. He's he's he's not going to be prone to being overweight. Nothing against choi and not to knock on tony romo but he didn't have tony romo body. Sure Troy troy was. I've i've heard rich darren detroit. It didn't really affect tony. Tony and maybe tony romo and you're looking at. Maybe he would have been the gym war. Maybe it'll work out a little bit more and kinda had that. Tom brady regiment. Maybe he would have been hurt as much. I i once heard which police say. It looked like somebody built a statue to the quarterback position and just kind of had that build like the. You know the big do so. Yeah but i I it also in. We'll move on the greatest story about this on on a road trips. Rookies made rookies. Stop at the cop deli. I don't know if you've ever heard this place the google so what they would do is that they had the sandwich called the stub special. Daniel stubbs used to play for the miami hurricane. And jimmy was there while he was coaching. They criticized the sandwich number. Daniel came to the cowboys. So what it was our day. I'm not not fabricate nece. i'm not exaggerating. It was it was five pieces of sausage Scrambled eggs bacon and between two sexist piece of the big square. One texas tells so it's basically a heart attack in between two pieces of toast and they would stop and they would get us the again. We make our rookie stopping. They bring gonna give it to us For the road trips we got on the plane that burgers they used to have nights burgers. And if you ever get back the cop daily still take over there. It's a it's about. It's about eight inch burger but if you guys are watching this it's probably yeah eight inches at three. I think it was a triple A triple or double bacon by pieces of cheese in a greasy greasy bergerow a tremendous a tops. Big old bag full of them. But yeah. that's kinda kinda puts in perspective way to do back. Then you know you had you know he got paid for being eating bad and keeping you sustain your way share of all the things you described. Good well the lease impossible. If i had to pull off one of these the least impossible. I think i could like if i didn't eat for the whole day. I think i could eat two pizzas like that seems the easiest of all of them. Maybe this movie's extra smoothies is parties. That is really big man alive. Goodness gracious shout out to your high school track days. 'cause that sounds pretty effective. I can't light. But i have my version of three hundred mad and me ties and it can't come round at last the last thing i'm going to say today and i don't totally. I'm sort of work shopping. This idea as i say the whole world went crazy. Tony romo himself. You mentioned drama on. Andy reed's fourth and inches. Call right. oh it was amazing. And i i catch a lot of heat for this. I don't. I don't think that tony is the best color commentator in the game. I actually think that chris collins or it's better. And i think a lot of ways troy is better but i do believe that that moment that fourth inches. Nobody can do that except for romo his his his wheelhouse is very special and so obviously it was awesome. That's a different conversation but so everybody lost their mind right. How andy reid. Throw it out of the gun on fourth and inches. Whatever it is a crazy call. And i'm not saying that. Mike mccarthy is andy reid. That's not my point. But we've seen a level of aggression from mike mccarthy right and sometimes and sometimes it's misplace right like the fake punt on thanksgiving whenever but my point is like he's got that that say but he's you. He's he's driven around that neighborhood his driven around at christmas time and looked at the lights. And so i think that that's that should be set one is it's the only aggressive head coach or play caller in the nfl. He's obviously the best and again. There's a large gap between him and mike mccarthy but that is something that people have criticized mike mccready for and i think like that's i don't wanna say it's a sign of optimism but i think that i think mike mccarthy is maybe closer to that than people think as maybe the best way to say well. I think that you have to look at that point You gotta have confidence in the call. You gotta have confidence in the quarterback and whoever does your backup or Patrick mahomes still. It's a to me. A low percentage play considering the circumstances. And maybe it. Maybe the perspective is it is but in donald so many times as it may not be but i think that that's that's part of the coaching. The that separates really tremendous coaches from average coaches. Because they're willing to really put the ball in in in the players hand like i believe in you go make the play and then once you make it and you create that it's a it's all about execution and i think people have a lot of respect for that because the next time they plan their thinking. Okay well we cygnus. This happened before you know. What are we gonna. I think that that's the one thing that coats is do. They compartmentalize a lot of different things. They keep that in our archives and watch so much down the circumstances you know whenever that comes again in. You may not make that call. But i think. It's the confidence of andy reid. Because look at him on the sideline look like this really gunslinger and type of playcaller mini. Whoever it is. I mean look at me like he looks really. It'd be really conserve. But yet some of the plays that he comes up with in this offense at each created. There's not any other teams that can emulate that because they are so crazily if that's even a word talented explosive right. I mean i agreed. Andy reid is so special and again. Not the mike. Mccarthy is android. But i'm just saying give give mike some time give him dak prescott and i mean and to the point. I mean we saw. We saw mike mccarthy offense call it kellen more if you want be still a bit of a gambler even with andy remember in the in the final game season when they let andy you know zone. Read that bad boy on a critical. And so that's all. I'm saying that. Mike mccarthy it's kind of a catch twenty two though r. j. If had not worked like one held you call that chair okay. It's like patrick mahomes. Why are you running to option right. People like they would lost the game or by would have been pissed off. Andy reid because they why this guy. He's got to her right right. So you know that's just the way it works if it works it you're the greatest coach in the world. My dozen my final thing. Agricole's agree with you my my final thing out here. I'm surprised nobody connected these dots. I know it was only division around. But the patrick mahomes chad. Anything felt a lot. And i'm sure you would agree. Like bernie kosar coming in for troy in the ninety three title game the we will win this game. Three inch bald head. It was kind of exact. Same thing like the star quarterback. Oh and down defending super bowl. Champion quarterback going down defending super bowl. Mvp and the wily veteran coming in in and incidentally it was bernie kosar of people. And the patrick mahomes thing happened against the browns. But that was kinda cool. I hadn't thought about that in a while. Well as a tremendous game and i think that you defensively. Kansas city finally came through at the very end and are so many crazy calls in that and But yeah ultimately. I think defensively and you and that's going to happen but you have to. That's why you you pay a backup quarterback at chad henny i. I forgot he was even the league. I honestly i'd like to thank register but he's had some experience but yeah that's Those things happen and you. Hopefully you can have a strength category. That kind of you know can carry you and look what kansas city defense so they can stop the the the browns all game long and then the last quarter they came up with some major stops and the huge play. Man was just amaze. I'd like you gotta be kidding. Me man andy reid. Greatest of all time brother. I heard troy said this before but in the monday appearance i reference on the dan. Patrick show he talked about that game. He says before again that he doesn't remember it but But i'm curious if you can recall this tony since you were there bernie kosar through nine passes. How many did he complete. I think he was five of nine. Look at that. He completed five passes. Okay that was a hell of again at least go fifty or forty five percent. I'd have a pretty good chance. Guess is sufficient enough. I'll i know he threw one touchdown in the game and i'll give you the aclu. It was a forty two yard touchdown. He had eighty three passing yards in a forty two came on this touchdown play who caught. It wasn't jay novacek. It was not jay novacek so it's either k. Mart kevin williams was not so michael irvin wrong bow hawker. That's right dude. Alvin harper made a living out of big time touchdowns in the nfc games that come up. Forty two yard touchdown from alvin harper troy. I don't think. I remember that game bernie. Again some of this is muddied but His official stats did not have the russian prowess two rushing attempts for minus three rushing yards in the game. Now i believe that barney come out rob all. He was a catholic. I remember saint. Christopher and i ever a sidearm sidearm motion with a quarterback. But the good bernie he. He was at the right place at the right time. Superbowl ring and the rest is history. That's right well. this is fun. I everybody about bear. He finally calmed in. What i didn't hear these true He did chill out finally. Thanks tony last thing. Who who's going to the super bowl. You got bucks packers. And let's i think we both agree if patrick mahomes doesn't play obviously the bills are winning. But let's assume. Patrick plays hard to say one hundred percent health so qualified. That how you want. But who's going to the super bowl in the nfc. Dave see you know what i'm going to both visiting teams i'm gonna want the buccaneers And the bills okay. I'm goin' packers. Bill so we're. We're a little bit copacetic there. Yeah i think maybe it's this more. I tom brady when dispute fascinating story. He goes business back. Super bowl i i. I'd like to see the packers win. Because i i love all four ditch team. So i gotta go with one. Underdog saying obviously the buccaneers. A they're going to be an underdog not by much. But i think it's gonna be a tremendous game. I do think it would be cool if the bills you know like the first year tom brady leaves the afc ease. They finally break through their success. Only to see. Tom brady super bowl. That'd be kind of funny so we'll see if which another question is the concussion protocol decision clears it. That's gonna that's gonna be the answer to see what the line is it's going to go. It's gonna see saul if bag mahomes is not available. Obviously bill's favorite but they should be a tremendous game. Sounds good well. That about nick foles. That's true We'll be back here next tuesday to talk about it. Everybody have a great week. This was 750 meal.

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The Grunge: The Nightbird Presents: 2020  - Pearl Jam, Tame Impala, The Weeknd, etc.

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The Grunge: The Nightbird Presents: 2020 - Pearl Jam, Tame Impala, The Weeknd, etc.

"You've heard the music now. Here's the story from director frank marshall. Hbo's new documentary the bg's how can you mend broken heart. Chronicles the highs and lows of brothers berry maurice and robin gibb and the evolution of the prolific career as the bee gees through interviews and never before seen footage discover how they navigated the ever changing music industry and complex dynamics of family and fame. Watch it now on. Hbo and hbo. Max grunge became a noun. It seemed a way to hold a bunch of bands on the way somebody decided to call it garage brunson flannel shirt to the night bird. Jared you know. I'm not sure what has happened recently. But just recently over the last little handful of episodes for some reason. I've completely lost the ability to start the show. I just for some reason. It's gotten hard. I don't know i don't know what to do. I forget what to say. The whole rhythm is lost. It is it's a you know we did the same thing. You do them zeal. It didn't get you anywhere and now subconsciously. You're coming to the realization late no matter what amount of effort you put into. This ain't no one buying a tesla ain't no one getting the camper van eight. I'm fucking camps. Still sewn cars. This is listen. This is just going into the deep blue sea where no one can find it. Welcome to the night bird on this episode. We're going to be reviewing i mean. Okay hold on. You want to start this over still who join anyway guys. Welcome to the night bird. We have special episode tonight To wrap up the year. We're going to do the best of twenty twenty meaning the best music released in this year. Wow all right oh by the way. I'm joseph rose. And i'm jeremy jerry would. Let's tone it down a little jeremy. Jerry would okay all right So that's what we're doing tonight. Let me just make a brief sort of explanation of what's happening You guys know the deal would rather than do an album. We're doing playlist okay. So there's a playlist tonight that i've put together assembling. You know some of the best music. That i came across twenty twenty now. Here's the deal with this playlist. This was an issue for me. Really so i have a ton of albums from the year. Twenty twenty that things that were released in twenty twenty and in most cases they're vinyl. You know a few that. I don't have on vinyl now. These things aren't included in the playlist. Because i was getting these records. And i wasn't listening to them. I was saving them for my record club. I think we've talked about record club briefly on here i host. I host a periodic record club with friends and we listen to music for the first time. And it's a nice time but because of covid and all the stuff. We weren't having record club. So i've been accumulating all these potentially great records that i have not listened to yet you wanted to wait for other people really. I would save them for record club because we listen to records for the first time altogether. But do you do. I'm surprised that i'm doing. I'm here now because in puerto becker club. You would never come. You were invited. Oh well you refused. Every time. I i didn't know what to do with my hands. I always bothered me again. I'm coming over the stigma. Yes not stigmatism. Overcoming a stigma being having something a little aggressive having music played at me right and that bothered me and then when we all think of as a group of men in a dark room listening to ina god vida always just men or women group of a of organisms in a room having music played at loud volumes. And i've told you don't really talk through it. We don't we don't really talk through it if we you know if we have a little something we wanna say we're free to say here is though like you have people you do with Would you have rather done that with people who want to listen to music like this thing. We're doing now. We'll have people come over for record club music music. But i never came over and i never showed any interest in listening to anything. And i'm here funny how that works johnny. So a ton of records potentially great records that i might love and have would have included on. This list are simply not included. Because i haven't gotten to listen to them yet. And i mean we're in the neighborhood of twenty albums well. There's no way going to catch up. But i'm going to have to catch up. You're going to have to have people over for hours and hours. Well i'm i'm just going to have to start listening to them by myself. We don't want those people. Because i want to hear these records. I liked them. You know something appealed to me about them. And i ordered them and i have a stack a record sitting right there I've been watching this for six months watching this. Get bigger and bigger. That's the record globalist Yeah interest and that's not even all of their numbers so the list is a little handicapped tonight you know. And so you'll see it just things we learned about in two thousand twelve. Joseph learned about twenty twenty and there were some albums that came out this year that we're kind of disappointments from like noteworthy bands like green day for example. They put out an album. And i don't know that it's a bad album it. It didn't really grab me you know it didn't hold my attention of i. I may revisit it. I'm sure. I'll try but i didn't include any of it on this list because none of it really like really did it for me in that way so and i normally keep our playlist. Who about an hour and tonight. We're a little short fifty three minutes. It does handcuff you a tad. I i know the our is hard. I mean i came in under. You know this time i i didn't i was you know. Think before we go into the point twenty years there are banned that you discovered that was from the past that you didn't know about like that was like oh man. i wish. I didn't wish i listened to that. You know mine was a the breadth. Domino trio really. It's a guy it's one guy. Rob met matt madeline or whatever. He's is a british but it's sort of almost late lamp lampoon's yacht rock and they do a lot of instructional videos and how to construct a hate like how to make love like wacky quirky stuff. Like it's funny league but he he doesn't eat he plays it one hundred percent belly. The guys like nerdy like he shouldn't be singing like the way sings like i can't. I'm trying to think of somebody. Who sings like with a deep baritone. But not tom jones but a little bit above that. Sure almost like a vic ashley but like not. Gasoline was sort of corny. This guy's corny but sort of knows it. It's just it's interesting. It wasn't corny though by the way that has pipes sure does that. Pipe dour hall. People make fun of hondo. It's all daryl hall home. Legit now a real guy. Legit i mean if your yacht rockers. Enduro doesn't belong here. he will lewis. I guess lewis has pipes to shoe. Lewis was a bad motherfucker hannity. Also i mean fun. Fact about huey lewis huge dick. He's got a huge dick. Tom jones. I guess second time we had to bring up tom. Jones did fairly. Their sausages are massive. Yeah he we. Louis got a big big one weird weird once you know. That sounds like a brother though. Okay racist what the fuck does that saying. I'm just saying there's some stereotypes and they're terrible. It's amazing we haven't been literally thrown off the internet yet because of you like what you can be third off. The internet should actually be cancelled. Copy i feel cancelled any news to share anything jerry. What's going on with you. I finished up my christmas shopping. I wanna do something Almost hipster i shop local. I didn't go to a big box store from my stuff. Went to the local shops but a necklace that was made out of A re bomb material refurbished bombs or. I've never furbish bombs bombs that were dropped and the metal and the shrapnel it came from shrapnel yeah and they made a necklace out of it and there's a little story that goes along with it to give you a card about that particular piece in what bomb landed where it's fun in that goes to my wife and i got a The marlins car Rar see car. You can set up and it it broadcast to the game so like what's going on in your house is happening in mario kart to you. Got princess peach. I can't wait to play. I bought it for myself. The cats my my daughter. But it's not what did you do. I had quite a day. Today i woke up know was up fairly early with my kid. I then dropped my kid off school to his mother. Ochre and then i came back home and i eight three grams of mushrooms. What time is this was. I'm relative this. This was about nine nine in the morning. Yeah nine nine thirty ish. We were doing completely different things. I took three grams of mushrooms and then laid in bed in the darkness. Silence mostly with little donny. The my first son and Or produce we just we just laid in bed for about seven hours was a dog trip into because that's sitting there for seven hours. No he was in and out a little bit but yeah he was just hanging out with me. That's cool yeah and I had a very introspective contemplative journey. Do you feel different well. I don't know about different but it was a fairly intense. Contemplative journey did a lot of searching and asking myself questions about myself and my life and Trying to make some decisions and and you know we always want to make adjustments right leg you wanna focus on the things that bring positive feelings and cut down on the things that don't that bring negative feelings or or anything like that and so. That's that's what i'm always working out. I always temper if i do. Anything introspective. I realize that whatever and it sounds totally negative. It's not realize it's going to be negative but it's part of it You can cut as many positives out but it will. There will be a new negative that will come with cutting out the positive putting out the negative. You know what i mean. You cut a negative outcomes going to fill the void. It could be more house why but it you have to deal with some level of strife and and roadblock life is complicated things perfect in if you can if you can eliminate distractions yeah and if you eliminate imperfections and correct those things and then you're doing a great job if you can minimize the deficiencies but I started really broad. I started in my mind. I was thinking just generally what what makes me feel. Good what do i like. what do i not like. What's what's stressing me out. What can i do you know. How do i figure this out and you know that. Sounds like really obvious stuff. You know you can pinpoint obvious things pretty easily but men you can really get in there. And i myself a lot of questions about myself. I really sort of poke a lotta holes in my own in my own game. You know i really try to call myself on any bullshit and be real real with myself and sometimes that's not the most fun no Today was not particularly difficult in that sense but there are. There's a lot of being real with myself about you know. Are you doing this for the right reason are you. Are you doing your best or whatever you know or are you just being the best version of yourself Because that's what i want. You know what we want to try to be right. I mean i guess if you're being mindful at all about your life you wanna try your best to be the best version. I don't know i'd i'd be okay with being a mediocre version myself. Along is everything turned out at the end. I could you know it doesn't matter the floyd of the missile as long as it's is target i'll tell you it is a real real over simplified version but i try my best but a thing that and this is not new. This is long running like knowledge about myself. I'm a perpetual failure. I fail at everything. You know everything. I do a failure and that has to do with subjectively how you might define it as being successful like what's success. I don't know So when i say. I'm a everything's failure. I mean that's you know to blankety. That's a very vague and sort of thing Well well okay. Well you this will your your sort of famous metric or your. I don't know most common metric is financial success. That's one that you measure things a lot by a half to. Yes i wake up with it. Every day i think a lot i mean. Look we all gotta deal with those people. It just me. If i don't if i don't put myself out there emotionally like if i go to work i don't put forth effort to impress something then i don't make money you know so i have to wake up with hope. Yeah and a half to actually jump into being social which. I'm not naturally. Yeah so yeah. So you by the agile your metric that metric and make no mistake. I'm not here to say like. I'm this a monk like figure that doesn't care about money. I try real hard to not. And i definitely don't care about status or anything but i like gadgets and i like i like freedom comfort freedom. I like freedom. I want to be able to go. Where i wanna go and do what i wanna do. And what that means is money because when you got money you can do all that and when you don't you kinda can't and so by financial measures failure my projects throughout my life. I mean here. I am with no tesla still a lot of a lot of us in the country. Don't have tesla yeah. I mean. I really wouldn't put down. I mean financial. Well just saying by that. I know there's another guy made albums. Yeah they didn't make me rich that that's the thing i've made podcast. Financial success is is a. It's when i get money. I'm not really too interested in i. In fact. I don't even care about the money i whatever. I'm just happy if the things are taken care of. And like i said with the missile thing i said earlier the it can go to and fro and that sorta how months and weeks ago. You don't sell anything you don't do. Anything the paychecks lane. They're big but as long as you hit that target at the end. And i were you want to have freedom now. Need that freedom. Now you need you need. You wanna do what you need to do now. A lotta people push that off to when they perceive the live the when they think the live long enough to retire and do that. Yeah and i man. I never understood that like no. I'm gonna. I'm gonna have all my fun when i'm too old to have fun. That's turn it's supposed to be the the winter the years the salad days you know this is we earned while you're dying. I work this hard. I'm almost dead now. You're going to have a lot of fun living go. Yeah i mean you know. Yeah i don't i. I can't do that now because there's no because there's no guarantee in that like we all know. We could die tomorrow with a lot of people do that. You're not terribly into that thing. With the reason. I have always insurances is like if i do die. We care because i worked hard. You know but they. I guess even you know men. Forgive me Tangent city here. But during you know when i'm in a a mushroom trip like that when i'm just sort of being introspective and thinking about all this life stuff and whatever it goes you know my mind is all over the map. Oh yeah you know. And then i always like to think about my place my significance in literally the universe and then down to like my world. You know ma the people in my life the situations that i affect all of that stuff very powerful in the people that you touch. That sounds sexy. I try to do my horse. I around you people generous lover. You're polarizing catman. Ya know people that love your eight you or like there's a bring your i've long since gotten okay with that idea because i've explained my whole shit on here before about like by version of enlightenment is reaching a state of i. Don't give a fuck. I however group in the same circles and i'm relatively forgettable i'll tell you. Why is i got along. I didn't really make a lot of ways. I was there. I was easy. I smoked a lot of weed. I drank a lot. And then i was just fun but no-one really remembers that and that's cool with like i don't get everybody was doing. Yeah but i didn't. I didn't get i don't get invited to the other things and not that they really cared for that because they did leave forbid neither here nor there but like your people will remember you people. We will always they. They see how. Jerry lee try the hate mail we get. It's always like this guy this guy this guy they'll say like a graph about you and then it'd be like jerry tries and then go right back to saying things about power blue shirt. Don't fucking the blue shirt won't shut up. You know something like that but like you they know your name and that's important i there is there the people you talked in the things. Yes but but that's that's a question i would ask like. Is it important. Am i making a difference to anyone because if it doesn't if it doesn't happen is not general feeling about myself and this feeling is duplicated for just about every person completely insignificant mayor here this is fucking pointless and meaningless at best at best in my lifetime. I'm gonna leave a lasting meaningful impression on five people in the world. There's eight billion people just about eight billion and at the end of the day. There's going to be maybe five that give a serious fuck after i drop dead and of those five that feelings going to be temporary and then like you for all five of them. The feelings going to be temporary and then all five of them are going to drop dead and then that's literally the end of me by the story. There's no legacy. I think you completely disappear two or were in two or three generations. That's it for me that'll be it'll be that that's it when those people die. I'm it's as though i never existed. Not everyone's roosevelt not everyone's a kennedy. Yeah that's what i'm saying. That's a thing like like pearl. Jam the great pearl jam. Happy birthday today. Eddie vedder recording. This on ed's birthday Pearl jam got together and they created this magical explosion and they created a legacy for themselves. They have a legacy you know that will last for generations financial. so's the financial influence on. That band will affect generations. They'll know that people know that this person's at the country club even two generations from now because of pearl jam money. Yeah and then. In my case i will have no legacy. I've never done a thing. I've never created a thing. You have though what what's going to jerry. There's no legacy. What does it. What does it mean. What does the legacy really mattered. Anybody who's who has one. That's day alad question. What does it matter. Why do i care. And then a big part of my mushroom contemplation. Today was about ego all about that. Just what what where is mine. What does it do for me. What does it do against me. How is it Affecting my decision making in various aspects of my life. I could go deeper into this stuff. I know glossing over it in a vague way. But we'd be here for nine hours to ask. I mean how. I i i think i change with levels of achievement or or defeat like things will like if i feel i'm getting too high on the hog like when i did at my lightest when i actually started getting like in shape. I was getting harder and harder to deal with in the general. The general public leaner to people really i. I was judge. I can see myself. And now that i'm knocked back down a wrong because again the ten pounds back in back of jerry. I i'm like. I'm like a fish being real in you know like you don't be a dick i'm addicted. This is closer to where. I'm going to get caught but like levels of achievement into small things got to do small things and he's keep getting more satisfied with yourself until you are like you say you're so what you're saying when as you get better you become a worse person. I why is that. Because they 'cause i'm truly at my core a bad person. No no i i. I'm so nice now. Everybody like a really m that i know that will change once. I have the advantage i now. I'm so nice to people all the time for for whatever reason like i'm just trying to get through the day i say take is to people because you're trying to get on the by well. Yeah but beyond that beyond that but that would be nice to the person who has to do the pricing. I had to do this. I have to schmooze and move back that once. I don't have to do that or feel like i'm better than them. Fuck dude. I'll never shouldn't feel better than anybody does. Not rock and roll man but i am going to because this is going to take this dot gov and once that happens then i can say fuck. Y'all and it doesn't have to have a legacy is the ability to say fuck this and you do it already. What you consider yourself a failure you over. Say fuck you man you already say. You're not nice to people who don't deserve it. Yeah i'm saying i'm a failure who don't but you're not fake and that's really sad is worse than any type of poverty. Being fake is absolutely. It's death it's death. One thing i can say about my you are. I am not fantastic. And so it to a point where you don't care or maybe i don't know if you care not people say terrible things about everybody but you never let you never let it get through so yeah. I don't when i say i don't give a fuck. You truly don't give that means that. I don't give a fuck about outside perspectives about me like i don't care as long as look. It comes with the caveat. If i believe that i'm right or doing the right thing or doing what i think is best then. I don't give a fuck you know. And that's that's that's that's true. I mean 'cause i'm that's true light that's true enlightenment. Success look jerry. Because i'd be the guy nailing fucked the cross all right. You don't give me no work on that fuck longer now. Listen i have a christmas present for you. That i'm going to present you with right now. Is it okay. Well why didn't you tell the gifts. I got a gift for jerry. Okay i say fuck you fuck fuck you have your little christmas present why Let me see what a guy here in the jerry. S one hundred dollars all right man. I didn't know we were exchanging. Jerry's gonna open as president i just give. Joseph thinks about the gifts five dollars. Jerry's opening present. I m m methodical gift open just the president cry. I don't rip the paper. Ripped the paper. Why would you not rip it. You're going to recycle that paper. Aren't you know rabbi open game opened the cards. I do all that. Oh this bisquick bisquick. Jerry beasts visor socks socks. These are socks i got. I got you quite a collection of suit socks to step your sock game. Giant white fluffer. These are french fries. You got a lot of different socks. Astronauts cheese oh. This is wonderful. I'm bring you something next week. Yes yes because your birthday not far after that. Either we need to talk about that. Be forty three great like these the most the lighthouse. You ever see the movie the house. I have not watched it yet. I won't i won't spoil. It is dog. i'd like these a lot. Thank you joseph. Welcome you this. Because i love jerry i love you too and i think i think the first twenty two minutes and me telling you you're a great person it really is. It's validated your. You talk shit. I wouldn't give this. There would have been a dog this talent for someone else. But i figured on the forgive. He's now that'd be hilarious. These are fucking huge. Hey guys should we forty six minutes in. Do you want to get into like a night. Bird playlist okay. I should just start well. Maybe i'll just yeah okay. Let's let's get into track. Number one cool is called instant destiny. Who's this by. This is by tame impala s. Their album is called the slow rush and fun. Fact about this album jerry. This album very important. This is my album of the year. Tame impala tame impala lows like low rush was talking to a burgeoning hip hop amateur hip hop artist favorite art favorite artists as well. He has appeal laid the weekend. Oh this is great. The weekend i thought the weekend was a one trick. Pony like darby dude. The guys jim is real. But i love this album so much. It is so good and it was the most impactful album for me. twenty twenty. he took over What album that we listened to where we listened to tame impala midway tame impala and teena marie if we were to recap twenty twenty there was now shut off play. Teena marie and team bala. I love his music now. Listen hear that part. He comes into that. Little chorus does that so he uses that in the song he liked. Teases the part it. You'll have to hear it it. It's really great the way he does this and this kevin parker is tame impala little australian. Hippy guy he does all of this himself. We talked about them recently. He's a one man one man band in the studio all the writing performing mix production. All kevin parker. How much would that across right there. Listen to this he sneaks in the. I'm about but he doesn't do as but he does. You'd like keeps building to that part and it's so great the way he lets that vocal. Teas i love that does it is it. Is i think it hurts us out. Lavas isleta and pretty sure this guy. He's the saxon to Fax it sounds like a compliment. Don't you think eighties adult. Contemporary was the type music. well really do jackson. That was pre. Yeah i love but this has this album and this track and this album. It has a a bit of a. I don't know dreamy. Sort of i and romance about it. You know addicted to baseline and he's alive today. Gadget doing this all by yourself. Another guy who just just to meet sixteen percent your town fleet at us and all the production shit you have so i can use it. You can do something like this right. You have stuff like this. We could make an app. We can make an apple absolute. I've made a lot of albums. Let me make an album. We should make one detract number. Two an important track dance of the clairvoyance by none other than pearl jam. Yes sir twenty. Twenty album gigaton. I think you know you said this wasn't your favorite. Certainly not my favorite pearl jam album by any stretch with going on your though but this is great. This was really fun to hear pearl jam just totally get weird full of talking heads. Yeah yeah we brought them up today. Talking against they were going to do the best twenty twenty and i thought it was gonna be the talking head live about. What do they call it. A just listening pods. There's a whole movie about. I'm not gonna compare these guys. Reporters with food fighters do something a little bit electronically just to with their sheen teams own. Little doesn't sound like them. I believe this. God mr stone gossard on the bass on this track amend jeff went ahead and did a little guitar on they just kind of switched it up almost as a killer amused type thing going maybe no You'll always get that groovy and it started. I know they had just like a tight little drum machine playing the beat on this and that just went in and played the drum machine be like with trump's Played a real tight and so they used matt's part sort of mimicking drum machine. It's not easy to move me immigration machine easily. He's does that good. Ed why like this. I will listen to this again both these songs. I'll listen to it again. Get say that about allow the other alphabets. It is not like this though not by a loan now. This is an anomaly anomaly. Not only album putting in the pearl jam cadillac and i wanna let you know as far as this free episode and all guys who are tuning into listen to grunge people talk run stuff from a tell you one thing. I don't listen to this shit. Joseph does and that's where we're literally pearl jam. It's i should have listened to the sound before actually heard it onto this thing because am on the grunge plod gaddi. Yeah caprice. i love that too. Funny line the boys want to grow their dicks and fix and file things. I never want to file a fucking thing in my life to me. Hasn't tell me to file shit. I'll shred something though. Say go shred that off over fat guy going to subway man. I'm a bit ups. You big people going to subway. I'm wrong with that subway. That's the guy was like doing stuff to kids or look. There's no longer exposed. I s subway. Do other things sam. Another guy no one really. They don't they're not gonna put all their eggs in one basket again. Let's not what are you thinking about this of it into this. I like this broken. It's exciting you know when a band like pearl jam old guys. They're in a little. They get weird. You know you've always got all i've ever wanted recently from pearl jam in recent years is just the chance at one last weird pearl jam album. Give me one. Last weird hurled did not been. Well i mean it gave me hope you know that may maybe we've talked. I think briefly on here that they now finally this late in their career have a whole like home based studio situation. That's there's this. Track is the underwhelming from pushover. Featuring maynard james keenan on vocals of course from tool as circus not pusa fire is no yards who suffer plus a for christopher plus as always posting boots. The open fire nelson. This one's called the underwhelming again. Another little shoulder. I would have preferred best. Is beth from product and Sorry priorities has no women in it. I'm sorry portishead. Gibbons from per i done this better now benca with beth gibbons you want to do the dishes real quick. Listen to breathe darren. he'll try. I should say this album. What does this album comfortable pulsipher. I forget existential. Reckoning is the newest album. And i don't love the album but this is a pretty jazzy song. I've had had a by jazzy. I mean cool. Yeah all had a Commonality far when i like fan of again ordinances synthesizer good good veld. Vogel's we haven't lost yet. I know deep. God blessed ami god bless thank god. He's dead on their this herald funky orbital type five into the urine defunct you like the beat hell not all hard-driving yelling trying to figure out. I love all kinds of ship. Had this moldovan map. I think this is a conscious commonality but this is one of the things we do have the real songs like. This will always like a real real episode. Yeah we did. A lot of that is to keep upbringing thinking but that was one of our top reviewed albums and meet my concern but that was a lot of a lot of funky. No no and that's the one thing. We do have a calm that you won't hear his hates on the you'll hear is hate somebody sing out of key you know i. I don't know why unless it makes sense. This is the great equalizer. This is really the first time we've listened to like contemporary music. Like you know we may have thrown a song or two. But i don't know. I think we have our most fun. Foreigner played or something like that but this I figured what the hell is the year you know. Merry christmas happy new year. Everybody again we had to condense it. We would be here for six hours listening to the best between twenty and again i heard a lot of things i liked on on on different radio stations. Do i have a car. That tells me when i'm listening to you know my car's oldest book so it doesn't it just head on you. Are you aware of any like twenty twenty albums that you liked or even listen. I just listen to radio. And i i again. I think that that. I'm in the minority here. Do this spot. If people will listen to spotify gig give suggestions sure and i don't listen to spotify youtube guy. I've a youtube playlist. Listen to what. I want to listen to in the morning. Recently it's been the war of the world soundtrack. But it's been like that since i was eighteen. I listen to what. I listened to but I wish i think when you said you were gonna do this. I was like oh. No i do any research i really did. Same thing and twenty. I listened to yeah. It's on her dad The migos are like migos speeds. Don't like wrapping. i like trap these But i if i knew this existed as would have been on my reader plus a for They have several albums out. The one that i love from them is called conditions of my parole. I really liked that album. pretty much. The whole labs real solid. But i don't. I haven't loved any other album that they've made for whatever reason this one has some jams on it and i'm going to give it a few more chances as an album but there was some stuff on there. That was just kinda bummed me out might as well eat some of these dummies. He okay next up. The song is called black shadow. The band is called spell book to there was never a bengals belbow before. That's not where song collection as the vincent black shadow. Now this one might throw you for a loop but it's a rocker. Is there anything on this. That sort of full. We'll say jeez. Bang as one thing. I know that bang bang. Bang shit. you're in it a mom i like. Here's a the chorus progress as seven times and there were wait a minute. Say another separate good times. And that's that's okay. I think we had that was rocky. Ride iraq kisses rocket ryden disciple. Acc here are a little bit. You know shirt. Don songs are named likely doesn't what the team was named the altman and song. The album is the slow rush. The slow rise. The song we heard was instant destiny right lack shadow. You gotta live up to that ship against the destiny on what i'm going to get into. India pleasantly surprised in my in the black shadow. Better fucking work. Because that's a bad ass. You know naming a kid. Logan you'd better be fucking monica though out here me Instruments that you don't get don't get a lot love on guest starring john hopper. Yeah they take one of his armani bandelier. that's stolen while i was fishing. If he was in the water and that he would think immediately. I mean he's gonna be monica. Oh he lost weight. that's right. that's right i better. Fatty looked weird. Ben and i saw roseanne. This works when roseanne eighty nine or something like ninety two pair. This is just like a rock kind of a classic metal rod. There was a moment that i thought that was gonna come back at the end of the little thing. That darkness is a great dark quote. This is the beginning and then steel panther shortly thereafter of the route. I love still goes out. There might be a renaissance. Blake just like real hard. Rock glam metal. It sort of fell off. That jazz oregon. And these weird and like uptight right now and the united states for heavy metal to be like in the mainstream. No man. I see. I see i see these rappers nowadays where i got a lot of my twitter tricks that i've since given up because i was looking at offsets twitter and i was like that seems like i can do. I don't even know who that has from the migos. It in like but no. That's where i got my shift from but like the that's super it's all about things we will people can't do you know event. The doors this track is called posthumous forgiveness. I heard this at a coffee shop. Tame impala i listened. I heard this at a cost. Low rush album litigators once. Maybe we will. This really gets me. I've been i've been put into an emotional state by the song song about this dudes dad. I've talked about this. Yeah i heard it was a single man like a younger man. Like team impala said the hot barista and like the game. I like game five. all right. you wanna go hang out later without baristas a dare here always sort of looking last time. I bought ceramic last day. Why it says all sober now. That was a fun. Way to get a dig in all the all left leaning. Yeah people to see that you just going to carry around a ceramic clock. I care and a plastic around with liquor like that only generates users to hide it in like your jacket pocket. So take it out like every time. I looking at a cigarette older. Like there's only ten. They're gonna run out of cigarettes so cool when they flip it out. John saxon the shit. I see somebody flip. Open a cigarette holder. i'm gonna smack. That should out of their hands. You're gonna you're gonna dented god. I love that it's got some isaak's walk on by guitar. This got a real jam is is interesting in its arrangement in that. It's kind of split into two. The song will change dramatically at one point and go into an entirely different section. You know it feels like a different song kind of. I think we even brought it up last time i was a guy. I'd never not wanting to that to happen because of the who. Who would all that. Second part of. The song really gets made the most last time i talked to her. I'm gonna let you listen to that. Same bar real good la. You've got all this shit though. That wendy carlos mu keyboardist brian. But he got fuzzy. Wah bo's come with topics come with our mcbride blind leader jamaica into this. What's that she meager. Enter this macron. We are the grunge. Come around freaked out is one of the number is where. I'm not on a soda. I'm not on mushrooms for this. You say psycho silla silla ban. That's what we should call it. Cbs on the psycho syllabus. Or here we got this is the change goes instrument. Doesn't this fucking guy put on it. It's everything in their air like air. I have fond memories of an era. I had a sexy boy safari news. Great fucking kanye love. This kills me when he does the little falsetto boy. Love you producing your stuff telling you what to do. Creativity get pro published. So there was some level i mean roughing out min- doing his own toward the no. I mean i don't think anybody's telling shit about. I'll think they're sango. Back infects the investment. In money's low. Does all those everything but he paying for. Actually that's freedom. Why don't we just do that. This podcast i'll sing at a high pitch. I have problems. but what. What are the major themes that we this is one of the few times that we're dealing with the unique being a father and a son. Yup but every i like the change deals with depression relationships and sex and love and death the every fucking album. We do this strike. No that was the. That was the best again. Jesus this is midnight phantom promote band lucifer from their album lucifer. Three as a bad company on the bad company by bad comedy. All this i really got into lucifer to. I haven't spent as much time with lucifer. Three but it is. Solid is not. The name of the band is lucifer. Okay and are there three different iterations or three different album. Powell like your voice. I like the lead singer. She's good segment. I was what to say the celtics shit list. Lack phantom gothi yup. Oh she did a peace deal. Do they up their number. Every time they release down there losing their it hasn't happened yet but bela's for four inclusive youth. Maybe they'll maybe they'll do it untitled or something like this led zeppelin four actually was i had had people sandwiches repeating and meatball sandwich out his stop coming up. I'm not going to vomit. don't vomit jerry. If i do. I'll leave be sure to get up on the nauseous. But this is lucifer. Sorry one song be jerry. Puke sox midnight phantom the again another two words and you put together you better be fucking good. They're they have a great video for a song from the last album lucifer to i believe the psalmist called dreamer if you guys really do yourself a favor and look up lucifer dreamer video there. It's fuck and i don't even wanna ruin it but just let me tell you that this woman is riding a white horse like through the forest and there's all kind of other shared there's leather where it's fucking fantastic. When i had my phase iii phase just a couple of years ago in this very garage before it looked like this. I had a major phasing woodworking. I got into woodworking and would turning doing all this stuff. I really was into it and during that time. I was listening to that lucifer to album a lot while i was doing my working out here guitars. Hack my thumb open on a table salt. He told a story about how how you did the same thing you were going to do anyway. That's right now. These are young people. I said he said a lot of leather. That that's not especially young and that's ton of the leather at at an over thirty thing right there. The i saw the little jacket. I don't have one i do. I have had. I had one but it wasn't a great leather jacket. The one i have it was like a hand me down. It was kind of stiff. I would like to get your minds off. Busted up got nine two. Oh yeah. I got fat. I didn't fit me. But i was a kid. It was way too big and then got a fat there in the middle power negga fat and fitting the now i lost we. Now fits megan bonelli. It smells off the land. No one wears leather any not. I can't wear convincingly anymore. There was a time when leather jacket. The great when your hair gets a little longer. You're going to be bad s right now. I looked like a leg throw. And you let your beer grow little beards going to grow your whole. Were gonna be something. I want the incubates guys here. All right next up this song is called radical from a band called waylon storms and this album is fucking gnarly. This album is tough as seriously rattle. Every song on this album is one word. Wonder song title one word easy. Yeah like pretty cool. Sounds ominous barry. I have no idea what these guys look like. I've never seen this fans you've never even looked. I never looked him up like their actual persons. I've never seen them. But in my mind i have a whole picture. Banjac see them playing. I in my mind i know what they look like. It's probably completely wrong. I see them playing on a mountain a different levels guys tabah lightning and it's tough man outta hair. What do you think in his own. Yeah i dig it. Definitely dig it. I just i think this is probably spy wanted his own valby better now context for me at least yeah. It's it is it's representative of the sound of the album. It's good. i really liked the album. I don't know one single thing about this band. No idea about anything. Couldn't tell you if this how many albums they have. This could be their only could be the ten. I have no idea you know. Is there a chills. And we put a Was it that al we played for. That was the w did a new undiscovered artists review. Oh yeah oh on this one of the best albums of the year. You know what though we're going to say it we hadn't thought of it unforgotten sons you want to be one of the best tracks of the year two hundred bucks. You want us to pay us. Our best of the week headed definitely into their own amount amount. Now it's starting to rate in that Large animal a glowing is now appearing and behind it behind the lead singer who is mixture jerry cantrell and drummer from alison she said. Oh no sean. Kenny is going to get any jerry. Kenny diddy yet epic now fucking the birds. Vultures a demon bear. I guess i'm just really explaining. Death block is death off. Yes got hold to my you know. Some people hold a stand. This guy's just on it. you know. I picture this guy playing guitar. No no no. I think that david power he needs. Yeah not distracted but again. I have no idea. I've never seen this and i don't even know how many of them are in the band. I don't know anything. No give me the fucking found this thing. I heard a little bit of it. I would like that sounds cool as fuck bought the album. That pile there Not in that pile. Because i already listened to this one. The bear grows wings and flies away. This next track is called. is it true is it. Is it from tame impala rush out june hour of the night bird. The output here. You're listening to the representation. They listen sweet. I would love to do this some club. Shit what's your name down on table. I don't know. I don't want to get a table actually talking to a stripper can i. Can you get on the table. Now get a table. They're trying to tell her name. Yes you've utilized said. I love that shit. Like he's saying what he say. Something like i'm in love with you. But how do i know i'll always be like. Should we get married. Like how do i know don't also daft punk shows off. He did a song with that. I mustn't supernova says like that anymore. Death under the guise recent album random access memories. Real fucking green. Everything drill green david. David only time that the holy mother fucker perfect accountable. You don't just get farrell for reasons as he might be the weaker part of the show. He didn't happy did nerd. I love that park. She said is. There's a huge just on team college. We'll do next time. No we already listened to accept. He's going to be album of the year. Fallen tame apollo podcast. We've jerry demon powell hyper. Did you say that he knows we have to solve. Call bird on after this point. I must say there isn't one that we meet. There has several comic books. Shit like book. Woes cassini channel. Shit he loves doing that guy. Somehow i was one of those. You know those little boy you blow into. He has one in your somewhere at the fuck. I can't remember right now. Mouth accordion not according accordion. Part of it is the main laurie soundtrack as every instrument. A wall of light. Diodes wires these plugs into you're describing a modular synthesizer. Jerry is a whole wall. Got it like in the eight. A modular thing. But he doesn't know what they're out of it. I mean you find at sprays it's experimentation. Spend a ton of money on it. Yeah you so happy with it to like just might fever. But i have a little analog simple in the house and it is not a modular But it has a little patch bay on it where you can take the little cables and plug things to manipulate the sound and it is pretty cool. I really love that little syntax. This guy has a wall of it. And then he knows it to whoa. This is of course. Paula blinding lights. Czar from the weekend so sort of a hit song. This year i would say. I don't love this newest weekend album as much as i have loved the last couple. But it's legit. Have you listened to any of the band's like dinah tron or anything that would they do do. This is all they know. Look up a smile banter work that maybe you can show. Hey yesterday. i like the song got us lane. What shoe gaze. Because they hear it's bullshit music. I like the name of shoe gates. Commute sounds to gaze not a jordan. That's easy for the big hit. This is the production that music needs. Now you know if you're gonna talk about like aren be hip hop in the production that needs to be out there now. Nothing nothing against today's hip hop but its basic they're saying the same shit over and over again as no real i mean. The showmanship is aimed at the lifestyle. Not the works. i mean that. That's that's that's not all of it. You know you still have several different. Good artists are out there now. But this is what this is what music heath now. Popular music least shirts. Because there's a kid. Now listen to this. Try this and it's only going to get better. I mean i like that kid could just as easily listened to the eighties. Could but like. That's not cool. Who wants to wear frigging flock of seagulls shirt. Two thousand maybe do now. Everything's paying flukes by war pants so tight that they were now in high school or middle school or to fuck got killed at. I was born and i was poor anyway partly played at the dealership. Everyone's oh yeah bang. Bang bang bang. Bang that's big now. I wouldn't know it's it's big now. I hear it. My daughter loves it. It's probably not on my radar beetlejuice. Beetlejuice theme yeah that defendant not be deos are you on your phone in the nypd sir. Yeah i'm trying to do some important work here. This is an important okay. You could say. I say it. All the time is not okay. This is not important. Come up next crying of the wolf's from wolf tooth okay okay. This theme then wolf to desist from their second album sounds pretty cheap. Yeah you know what. I don't love the sound of this album. It there is something. I don't know tenny sounding out the production but it was like a demo and their first love. Sound like here. This is lacking a little bit balls. I'm okay with it just sounds like it's getting. Why don't you said funny late. Seven eight months ago with all of these people listening to. i mean. listen to sixty two different albums. Sixty five really wasn't a lot of different album more than seven months ago. I wasn't able to say this song sounds cheap. Yeah i wouldn't make the mazing the amount of information by something for almost perhaps year. Yes i love doing this. Yeah i it is a weird sound. I don't hate it again. i don't hate his own. I like no are here. i'm really into it. But the general sound of the production is a little lacking again. I would like to hear even like some old black sabbath productions you know. I don't need it to be. I mean these guys are sabbath worship. Yeah that's not. That would need this to be like iron maiden. I just need a little bit more effort. He accident fucking low end to do i think of plastic fuller. When i hear this just just has a function. The wooden moment the metal edge wolf too. I really loved it i. I love the knee. Yeah you don't have to defend this. I would shoot legit too. But i really loved that for a second albany wolf to. I mean the names of these banner telling me don't suit the sound like it's five after one out right you know fan black fans what the cool kids. No i know. I didn't know about i would never even click on because it sounds cheesy omen. I should show you. I have their apps on final. Their first album cover is so fucked grade. Yeah i mean it's just that the one with his guys are doing at baseball. I liked that one baseball parks other shit straight up. Yep this is a sabbath thing on this bill. And i'd be a hypocrite. I like to say like. I don't like this because i liked that ban. Sounds exactly like led. Zeppelin was her new their fleet complete other. I like you know what they can do it. I pretend that it's not even. I'm not even kidding. I get stoned and listen to greta van fleet and in my mind. I'm picturing crime led zeppelin robert plant with the open or the blau during jimmy yet suit jack. Yeah sure i love it. That's really what i picture while. Listen to greta van world so good. Can't hate it but they were getting so much shit like i don't why i mean it. Sounds like led zeppelin more that. Please note that new led zeppelin day of the week. I wanna see what they're up to now. I just wish ken. It's it's it's the one like you know the one ball. Everything else was like a strike. This was a fall. it didn't get talking about it. It just sounds bad the production. I'm not me. I'm sorry right. Give me another bad ass name please. This is quick escape from the band. Pearl jam from the album gigaton. This is the best song. Gigaton is the best track on pearl jam's new album pearl. Jam doesn't do anything by act. What what is gigaton do you just don't you just don't know best on the best one. Just listen to. Jeff aim space through this fucking fat. I'm a withdrawal after the last but escaped. If not always safe it planned. The songs is actually about going to mars. What else are they gonna write about. Why whoa what's wrong in their lives. Take the lyrics in this first art. Let's i might i might. I might give the semi by this one only because this is a severe departure. And you're saying that you know not all the best but it might be something. I really liked to. The songs have listened to. They appealed to me. I'll tell you what another thing. I'm pretty sure both the song we just listened to you from pearl. I'm pretty sure this is true. Both jess jeff. Aim at songs. Both jeff amazon's you the group. I wrote the song your effort light out. Jeff goes fucking buklod at the end of this. Okay this is dr lebron and he started out the end of the song. We saw about being playful. This bear mental out here and they've never experimental have always been experiment on the lovett. Bivouac asleep sack in a favor. Wack wack with a sense of time. Doggone girl you ever read on the road is all over. The fucking place meandering. Yeah dude is read coming books of your really come on man. He catcher in the rye listener. Jeff at here think you needed this. Go thing going with gallup disobeyed guitar in. We all do look at guitar alive. Show display europe. God mike mccready articulate that dude in a live setting program shows turn into the mike mccready shows real quick that motherfucker possessed he is possessed. He's the real deal ever looked up and after all these years he looks like he's still wants it so bad he's still killing it like he is. It's not necessary. You know what i mean like. He doesn't have to listen to subject matter of this. I mean we're ready going more thorough associate but like listen is he doesn't have to do that. Give up. your bike is just killing it. I mean he's got the guitar behind his head. He's fucking freaking on the ground ripping a solo. It's fantastic looking rockstar. That's what we were going into our last song of the night guys right time from tame pa ear slow rushing album of the year. I think the night birgitta one artists for june osborne cadillac there anomalies interest. They pattern now. Had i listened to all those other records. We probably would have had a lot more different bands on this. Listen we we should've gone with top twenty. You just talk to you over that jerry. It's a nice way to end forever. Come on. I can see this being a soundtrack. Movie starring alley cheated jail. I love so much. Jerry starring any pop album judd nelson it all back. He gets the west coast whistle in there from all the way from australia. Kill bill noise there. You have a fifteen year old listener as rally bitterly fifteen year old listeners. As we've recently found out go now. I thought we were talking to them and jazz. We're really talking to them. Come on jar you hear this shit. I love it. This is everything i like. I grew up in the eight man. I mean that's my word. Pet shop boys shit like that and then later like in the nineties. Five horseheads sneaker pants air. You came on gas diesel favorite guys by the best album of the year tame impala moon safari whatever. What is the name of your this slow. Roger slew rush. That's like a quiet store. Storm slew rush dominant. I'm doing like three of them to do. I have three is off. the whole family can get it apart. Yeah me and my wife and my daughter real late militant about it. I'll carry my daughter. My wife joe jackson the other jackson swell embracing. Thank you a racist embrace it yet. No i'm aware of shit ain't like it used to be a good with it as well like the program. i like. it might be time to face with unless i have my hair. Thank you team. Apollo big grape pearl. Jam released an album this year. And you have four of one artist more than that. That's that's that's impressive. The team of pollock is the man. I love pearl jam to the day. I die but this year. Same apolo killed over. no. I was in basan. Did you stop it. Or he's that was the end of the song. Jesus that guy is not a fucking do that. Maybe he'd eat some hotel that shit. Just nowhere there. You go the sound of two thousand twenty. I'm so glad you didn't just take a top ten list and play that i swear to god guardian go. He's easy we. We're going to go over everything popular and that should be a show. One day we do everything popular what it might be something. We should compare like our top ten to the real top. I think that would be a great show tonight. Bird lazing egg does. Yeah so would you think jerry. I thought it was great. I stick out to you You know anything that. Just have name impala really lately stuck out Wonder why because they were there. The weekend song i knew pearl. Jam should've known she don't own already right. You know it's sort of my job now and then There there was somebody in the there. There was the second. Song was not tame impala and when i liked and that was the pearl jam song so i'm gonna go with that one as one of my favorites clairvoyant. Answer the clairvoyant. I do like the visual of not wolf tooth the warhorse i believe we call them wolf to off to the guys on the mountain i liked. Oh waylon storms waylon swelling storm. Yeah that's a name that made sense and yeah you didn't have a stinker. They're the only one was production. The only problem was willing to to really needs to really not do that again. And hey everything else. I don't understand how that happens like. Did you guys listen to the. Mix on like your stereo. Did you ever hear any other albums. Did you notice the difference here. Any other end yeah. Have you ever heard anything that has based like what happened. Yeah really like injustice for all this shit. I more or less twenty is coming to an end and by the time this comes out it will be. What would jesus. The very end won't be new year's eve it'll be. I mean i can't do the math but it's going to be late. In december we late in december. And is that if that's it then we did. A great job than music is good. I really haven't listened to anything else. I'm assuming going out to the world that i can turn on the radio to any pop station. Say that's what's up. I don't think i'm going to do that. I don't think one of four point five any of your top. Ten stations are going to really appeal to me now. Know listen to waylon storm. I don't think i'm gonna find them on the radio. Find him on the internet. I find most of my music. And that's what makes me woefully unprepared for what we did tonight but Great great mix really really dug it man. Thank you for providing a thank you jerry and then you've gotta socks welcome. I want you to know you're not a failure. You're well your winter. If i'm a winner. Fucking winner all winter's here all that guy. Oh wait wait. I forgot the whole show jerry. What's up. Hey guys you should go to the grunge podcast dot com that now and just. Just look around all the buttons. It's going to be in the description of what you're listening to only hit one of the buttons maybe don't be cheap and hit the one that says. Hey tron and we'll give you seven hundred and i think twenty nine or twenty seven was eight hundred forty seven hours last week. What happened to the other. One hundred thirty man jerry. Also guys jerry's fired. He's not on the show anymore. It was all my parts out. I one hundred hours of jerry gone on that note. Everybody thank you so much for tuning in and hey. I hope you've all had merry christmas. Or whatever the fuck care about how happy hannukah. I'm right in kwanza. Don't be a square by january nineteen seventy-eight a nineteen year old singer. Songwriter has released her debut single. 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Ep02:  Our 10 Favorite Songs Pt 2 Side A

Our Favorite Albums

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Ep02: Our 10 Favorite Songs Pt 2 Side A

"Our favorite albums is supported by complete data systems retail software for independent retail stores. Get a free demo at retail pro demo dot com that is retail pro demo dot com. Our Favorite Games is commentary criticism and Music Review podcast on Itunes or copyrighted and owned by the artist. Not Us we just have to tell just here to tell our opinions which obviously our own don't reflect any artist sponsor or whatever. Mrs Our favorite album Summer some way you've made your way down to this in of the Internet. I don't know how you did it but she did it in here we are. This is our favorite albums. I'm Michael Aka Chuckling early. The Guy Across the way for me is Jason Aka Handsome Bird Aka. The more handsome of the two of us that is undeniable. We are back once again with another episode of our favorite albums for information on our podcast for our project for past years. Top Ten albums. Please go to our favorite albums dot com for fanmail for hate mail for anything but lawsuits send us an email at info at our favorite albums. Dot Com. Hey Buddy. How's it going man? Good it's going to be back man. Has it been a week? It has been a week it has been. I think that the response that we got from our friends who were listening to US talk about music has been very positive it was it was very positive overall. We had one guy out there. That didn't like something we had to say. But otherwise it's and you know you are otherwise it's been very positive. It's our favorite albums favorite outlets. Yes not your favorite and it's not the best albums ever absolutely. This is our favorite albums. These are the songs that we love the most. This is one hundred percent subjected. Yeah Yeah and I will go on record. I don't care that Don McLean was just as as responsible for buddy holly's famous Buddy Holly's music so there I will agree with you one hundred percent and we're going to hear from Negu. I would assume that we on facebook slash our favorite albums. We'll hear from our friend here comes and that's okay. We love that kind of stuff affect the more comments the merrier. That's after all this is just a conversation. That's right this whole idea started as a confrontation conversation so this should be a conversation when you get a couple of guys that just like talking about music and eventually it's going to happen. Give them some recording equipment. What do you think's GonNa happen eventually? You and I are going to disagree on something when it comes to music so far we've gone. Yeah that's a good one and then I'll do when he goes. Yeah that's a good one eventually. You're not going to get to the point where you go dude. That is enough of that group. I think that's entirely possible. I might do it to you. I will see everything we can do. Avoid that happening now okay. So we're doing five. We started with five today so we. We started off with our our favorite songs. We started at ten and worker. Downs are way down six list over there. Aren't you run down so far? What our top six ten threw out by the way there's going to be a lot of paper rattling this week for the first time through. There's extra nuts. They were songs that we loved absolutely but this time these songs deeper so we had to have borne so last week's discussion for those follow along at home mine. Number ten was fooling. The rain by led Zeppelin. Michael's number ten was TB sheets by Van Morrison. My number nine. Was I stay away by Alison? Chains Michael's number nine was why z? By rush by the way they say why. Why is it really? They do that. The Guy who wrote it. Neil I mean if that's all he says that that's how we should probably say he says what is it. I I never heard a sing it that way and concerts. That was a joke. Because it's an instrumental. My number eight was favorite thing by the replacements. Michael's number eight was Jeremy by Pearl Jam. My number seven was. This must be the place naive melody by talking heads. Michael's number seven was moonlight mile by the rolling stones. Michael's numbers might number. Six sorry was lover. You should've come over by the Great Jeff. Buckley and Michael's number six was the nurse who loved me by failure. What what did you listen to you when you went home? Jeff Buckley but the one did I do too. That's just such a good album death. It's Kinda hard to beat and it was just. It was the one that stuck with the like all the songs like the conversation we had but that was the one that I thought it was going to stick with me and that was the one that stuck with me. Sure so I went home in turn on Charles. Mingas ooh Nice. I made brief Mention Charles. Mingas in that in that last episode as I was talking about the jazz the Modal Jazz. In by the way we're going to get any modal jazz. We are yes very shortly but I made brief mention of of Charles mingas in that in that episode. We did last time in so I got to thinking is like what do I want to listen to and so I was thinking too? I WANNA listen. Van Morrison like I. Don't you know other than I think? Brown eyed girl is on a blown your mind other than that the rest of the album. I can do without Mood for for Moon Dance. It's funny how that works. There's songs on this list love the song I could live without the up and down to listen to it and you made a great point of that okay. So here we go. We're doing number five through number one. Jason you up again. You want to start again with this. Yeah I mean unless you WANNA flop. I don't care. I've got to do a playlist here. We'll muscle just keep it there. Yeah Okay you're number five mine. Number five is the song summer land by the band. King's X off. The album Gretchen goes to Nebraska from nineteen eighty nine. This is a band out of Houston says a my hometown. This is a three piece band that you could consider as Progressive Rock. I think especially especially in the early days and Quite okay so so. Let's define press progressive rocky. Because we you and I are going to talk a lot about Progressive Rock. Sure we're gonNA talk about rush. We're going to talk about tool we're going to talk about. Yes we are. Don't look at me like talking about those guys but what makes Progressive Rock Progressive Rock on. What your definition so a fancy time signatures and fancy keys and lots of crooked notes and lots of complex compositions sure versus the The simple to complex musicianship instrumentation as opposed to three chord rock Go usually combined with. I mean when I say usually combined with a superior skills all player musicians musicianship is topnotch. Whether that's vocally rhythmically. Whatever they're all very good as general in one of the one of the things that really bothers me about this generation of kids is the music that they love. Every generation goes back to your parents and the parents are always like. You're you sound like the old mammoth corner right. I Guess Cloud Cloud Fair Point though I mean I have teenagers in the amount of auto tune that is used now and backing tracks. I mean you got two guys in a room with a computer and you can make an album billion dollars and good for them. Yeah that's just not anything that I find interesting. That goes completely. It's the antithesis of that. Ten thousand hours thing where you do something for two thousand hours and you've come an expert right. These guys who were honking on saxophone until their lips were bleeding right. The guys who play guitar until their fingers bled fingers off the Stevie Ray Vaughan and you've told me super is fingers calluses back on his fingers. Calluses would fall off. He'd superglue his fingertips back on him. He also played with the heaviest gauge guitar strings. That any man has probably ever played with so but still that that once again that's dedication level that you're talking about and over and over again whereas Britney Spears would only wash your hair with like Evian water thinks anything. There's a lot of talent involved in the water. You got to be honest. Let's let's let's be frank about that. Listen you gotta you gotTa sacrifice for your craft right exactly you got to put the effort into it Weiqing Sex. I have always been an essay always since the first time I heard Mrs their second album. The first was planet which is and this is. I think this is a consummate album of the time period. And and this is. We're talking eighty nine so we're coming out of the eighties rock and roll and we're moving into the nineties rock and roll on this is kind of in the middle. The talent level is is huge with these guys and they write catchy hooks taper is one of my favorite guitar players of all time Just just a huge huge fan of the guy and he would not say that he is. He's not Alex. Life's and he's not an overly technical shredder type of Virtuoso. He's more of a blues player really in a lot of ways okay but but also very melodic and kick. The song plays a lot of our pegos Which on the song he's about to do as well Notes within the cords as opposed to just court so page go. We'll talk about that a lot when we say our Pezzo for those of you at home. That aren't necessarily musicians. That means you're making a cord stretch like on guitar. You're making a chord shape with your figures and instead of strumming all of them once you're going right down the street and you're playing a note within your playing nuts within the chord pattern right so which is about what we're we're about to hear here we're going to hear it right off the bat now before we start place. I want to point out that you sit this before this was a trio and this is about as powerful a trio is. It gets this. Is You even mentioned the twelve? String Bass that panic play. That's correct. Yes so we had talked about that with Pearl Jam that Jefferson opened up Jeremy with a twelve string bass and I said we're going to get another twelve string before this he played a hammer. Twelve string bass on the first couple of albums Which is very the sound of that is very apparent in this song. And talk about that but you can really hear the amount of sonic space. It takes up if you will and unlike Jefferson who is a fine bass player but he plays a little bit more simplistic whereas you're gonNA hear Doug do a refs and riffs on a twelve string bass is obviously not particularly easy but that does cover up a lot of space in. Jerry's a fantastic drummer. He pleasure all over the place. Doug is also. The senior in his vocal range is staggering correct. But also it's worth noting that both Jerry Anti Sang background so you get a lot of three part harmonies with these guys. Which is super unusual for rock bands? Like this especially. When you've got a guy that this is almost like Beatles esque Sri will with the backing harmonies in the way that they do things and it's so once again very unusual mix of sounds almost like an almost the soulful. You'll hear here's some of the stuff that Doug doesn't almost like solo singing right you know. And he grew up in the church. Isn't that the thing is he grew up. Like in a yeah. You just raised by his grandmother. I believe In kind of a southern you can feel that his always always always feel that from go ahead hit star. At least. We're we're listening for therapy guitar up and down the notes we're listening for that base and the last thing that I wanna point out as the drummer is Jerry. Gasol hits the fucking drums. So he's a monster monster when you have you ever see videos of them when they were back in the in the nineties when those guys were really really big shows uric ESCO remember the cartoon when Bugs Bunny is playing baseball and he's beaten the other team the guy gets up there and he has carved out like a tree and he's holding like a tree trunk Jerry gaskill holding two sticks of these torn off of a jury and he's back there smacking on the Durham. Yeah and I've seen these guys live a few times and he hits hard and they are loud. They're so loud really really really loud I. This is summer lion. King Zack's Gretchen goes to Nebraska from nineteen eighty nine peasants. The tone is so rich for the first few albums. I early part of King's access. Everybody wanted to know what type played were kind of an and he actually covered it in a box because he didn't want people to know what he was playing. He was actually playing A lab it's seven late seventies early eighties solid-state him. I mean there was nothing to it. Those harmonies so this is not a case of second verse. Same as the first the Bass player's GonNa change the big little man. Listen to what. Doug doesn't obey strengths part housing thing. Frank Sir you can almost hear the snare the head of ripping alias. So hard right. I mean if he sounds he's just terrier salt plan to hell on everything I mean. That's that's such a fire. Hi Tony. Everything's still going on here. And he's at so we've had the Piccio and like kind of more intricate baseball on the first few verses and after they come out with a civil instrumental section going to third I. It all changes very dramatically angering aggressive rent. We the finance goes away. And now we're just going to hammer through and uh soul fell there based attorney uh so racist while never brought. It was all right much control. And that's a high razor to drop. D is something that these guys planning constantly. I had never really known anything about that. Of course is eighty nine. I didn't start playing it for a year. Now you find on there but they do the drop d which is where you turn the lowest of the tune. The low string guitar from e down to d a deeper heavier sounds full. Step on Lois Note. You'RE GONNA full step lower than the guitar would try. And and this is obviously changes the coordinates but sorry everybody. I'm Kinda nerd out here a little bit but guys listen. If you're listening to this just assume that we're going to try to teach US something. He may not even want to know it too because this is heavy guitar. The drop d thing is cool because a lot of the bands that we like the honest list like early nineties. Grunge bands did a lot of drop-dead. This is kind of where that heavy sound of course and eventually it goes crazy and people get down to see and all sorts of stuff but the drop d really adds a lot. So that's a lot of that heaviness in that role fullness to here in. I don't think that these guys can be. Let me phrase that. I don't think you can underestimate the influence that king's x had on rock bands in the ninety S. I think you're right. Even though most people have no idea who they are never heard of them. But I think you're right. I think if you go back and you look at some of the grunge pioneers guys that are considered to be the band's that were emerging from that that eighty S. I mentioned it. In in the bonus episode. There's a lot of like pentatonic opera type bullcrap But there were a few bands I can think of that are absolutely the ones who were contributing to Greenwich turned into I. You know. Heavy two and four beat Lots of Bluesy guitar versus the dramatic stuff right A lot of social commentary you know even or even more fanciful stuff like the things that were more personalized as opposed to where you have like more direct songs. Where is all the girl? I live right on the window but this is more like I don't fit either. Yeah I feel like I in this world and that was the stuff that was grunge. So so the band's I have a mind Meldons pixies keys X. by all means some of the early sonic youth stuff. Sure all that stuff you know. Kirk cobain even said that when he was doing his his his power cord stuff all he was doing just copying picks copy and he's got the soft loud soft soft loud soft kind of their thing right exactly and a lot of that. That grungy stuff had that fun fact for you real quick. I'm thinking of their influence in two thousand eleven dug in Jeff amid actually recorded an album together really and Mike McCready Played Guitar. Jeff was huge. Doug Fan once again. There we go full circle with that information. It was trace mountains. That was the name of the group that was in the project. Was the name of the Project Race Mountains. Yeah don't ask me why it's a I mean. Look it up if you want to. It's fantastic but but it just I think it goes to show the influence so if you're listening along and you'd never listened to King's x I'm going to implore you to go check out Kingsley's do now. I think part of me. Jason I've always been kind of like a silently desperate bass player. The base is a fantastic instrument based so much probably enjoy it more than the guitar to be quite honest fun. Yeah and if you give me an opportunity where you go you get to listen to any person completely isolated from banned from these bands when Israeli GonNa pick if you ask me. It's GONNA be based I'M GONNA listen to John Entwistle. I sure sure I'm GONNA listen to horses really hard not to isolate. Primis when you get to promise is basically a base with two other guys per customer base and so less capable to the is the genius behind promised but those guys is weird. Is they are. That's a progressive. I'm sure I think he's make that because of the calorie there and it was weird. It was quirky. That's putting it mildly but for example his Zappa Progressive Rock. Do we have to talk about things up? We absolutely have talked about Frank. Zappa that we really at some point ride moody will be there. Well that was. That was my number five. Mom My last point on the homeless. My Research said that Jerry gaskill wrote that song and the lyrics. You mean the lyrics it was about He had gone back to his His home state of Mississippi and he'd been around some of his family and he had this like passed oral perfect environment kind of idea in his mind that he always thought about this summer and the perfect place and he gets there he finds it to be Kinda hateful any kind of finds it to be a spiteful environment that he really didn't it just didn't remember it that way and it was just kind of what you were you. It's summer land is everything was perfect. Everything this guy's in blue everything's in love with you etc such you know. And so. And that's what that's what Doug The article that I read with Doug. Pennock the singer he was saying. That was Jerry and Jerry gone back. And it wasn't perfect as he thought it was when he was a kid and he was wishing he'd go back to that innocence. Gotcha Gotcha love that. The whole you're finally getting old. The wind is finally getting cold now. We're finally here. We've come across the point where we've gotten old which is a great segue to my number five in absolutely as I mentioned on episode one that you and I shared a favorite song our top team and this is it. It is one the one this one and for for technicality. It was ranked higher on your list than it was online right. You got to keep it. That's right we're talking about the epic Classic Rock Song Time. By Pink Floyd from the epic album dark side of the moon. Nineteen seventy three nine thousand. Nine hundred seventy three when this came out now back to vinyl. If you had a record player and you don't own dark side of the moon go buy it right now. Send me an email. Let me know where your addresses come over and we'll your ass you've got to have dark side of the moon on vinyl. If you're into records right. This is absolutely one of those albums that exists to be listened to from front to back without skipping to the songs that you like to here. Yeah the problem with this. Is that if you've only ever listen to this for this album for the singles time for instance and you never. Did this allowed it to go through with everything else in the background. You're missing the album experience. Completely less right there was the Houston. This is an aside. I'm not trying to hijack your song but the well to be fair to okay. Let's do you want to hear this. The planetarium and he's done at the Natural History Museum. When I was in high school used to do a laser light show. Yeah too dark side of traveling. When we were in high school got would come around and on on on the edge for sure. Maybe on Cuba to They would advertise this laser light show. I was in the planetarium. Was Dogs Out of the movie. It was fantastic. I remember it mostly being fantastic. Mostly remember it means them. Forget it so. Let me give you a little background on this. Go for a dark side of the moon is mostly genius musician. Ship of Roger Waters who played the Bass and wrote a lot of this However Roger Waters was an original member of Pink Floyd along with syd Barrett syd Barrett. It was really the genius behind the sixties version of pink floyd and syd Barrett was. I mean brilliant. He was a brilliant brilliant us edition and then something happened to syd Barrett syd Barrett started taking copious amounts of acid and did not recover and he had some weekend where he is a couple of his acid buddies. Went off and something happened where they locked him in a trunk or locked him in a closet or something happened and then he went missing and when they found him he was different and he descended into madness. I don't mean madness as he's acting weird or he spent a lot of money. I mean my institutionalized love bad and he never recovered and they had to kick him out of the band. David Gilmore was one of his friends and as Sid Baird became more and more dysfunctional. They had to remove him from the band. And David Gilmour became the frontman but still it was Roger Waters. Who was who was writing a lot of the stuff right and I think Waters took over the lion's share of the songwriting either Barrett left on this album and the the wall their double album or both predominantly roger water genius and eventually he and David Nick Mason and Sh ch Richard Right. Richard that was other guy Those guys got to the point ladies where they just couldn't stand each other anymore they had to split Roger Waters left them than the other guys went on and yet released. Learn learning flatwoods. Moser I division bell division bell business detract off. It was learning to fly which is a gorgeous song gorgeous song. Yeah but it's definitely not this so it's definitely not Roger waters lots of central stuff right so this song in my top team is unique in that. It doesn't have like a really deep meaning. What it's saying is your life is getting ready to pass you by. You're getting older. As a matter of fact one of the th- The lyrics on this thing absolutely love goes so you run you run to catch up with the sun but it sinking and racing around to come up behind you again. The Sun is the same in a relative way but you're older shorter of breath and one day closer to death. It's brilliant pr. You're on your deathbed to read. That you would cry right because you're going to die But is there a better way to describe that feeling of mortality of going? This is gonNA come to an end. And that's what these guys were riding with. The song time absolutely absolutely. So it's kind of funky thing with time is it has a two minute intro. That has clocks and stuff. I'm going to go for a bit and I'm okay. Yeah that's fine. I mean once again if you're listening to this as an as a whole album this is necessary because it sets the tone and there's there's little pieces between all the all the tracks in the segues it's maddening. It's going crazy right. These guys did a couple of songs that were representative of that chaotic crazy. Mind specifically in reference back to sit one of which was shine on you crazy. Diamond Ranch was written bathroom for him about Syd Barrett in this one. Sounds like heartbeat and in here. We go those clocks by the way. We're all H individually record shop. That I did not now really now. If you wanted to go have a bunch of Clark starting to offer you would just say. Hey Punch. They Punch up the clock down on computer games. And let's just go with Google clock pulling nine hundred seventy two or whenever they're putting together. You know you had to go two o'clock store but the idea of recording each individual clock is the dedication level and also. They must have had a very large budget from south. They can afford us in the studio engineer out the do that. I think they didn't have this job and this was on the heels of a very large automobiles by but a success bullying facade level of this but we talk about Vinyl Vinyl captures. If you're looking at a wave on a computer assembly on a computer it captures everything from the low stuff the low frequencies stuff whereas if you compress that into a digital format it just squeezes everything down to a much thinner pipe therefore the low level stuff is supposed to be load is the same volume as high level staff and so that that's called dynamic impression and what you're missing as the dynamics you're missing the nuance and my friend. There's nuance with time by pink. Floyd grew the song. Be Very slow three backup singers. Oh Gilmore let's talk about David Gilmour one of the absolute great guitar playing right there that I'm talking over like an asshole is just absolutely some of the bus. And what's what's remarkable about David Moore. Is he puts a lot of hair under all of his notes. That there's a lot of feeling like a lot of these expressive right threatening right. There's air into their but he leaves a lot of notes out when he goes from here to here. There's a whole lot of not leaves out of Guitar. Players would tend to a lot of notes. In between it's it's not natural of one and not play in a guitar. Takes he wants it filled up with space whereas Isa's getting it across man just getting in there but but it just kind of floating on the wings of a speaking today. Rebel air seat here talking about dreaming. Imagine someone who's dealing with some mental issues. If they feel like everything is just kind of floating maybe maybe life he's talking about live. Kinda passed by maybe lot kills real slow his his mind that I was saying right one catch up with Wrestling Guitar. Going up and down on a surround. Sound the level of mixing on this starts way up there Indians a whale year. It's all in between I agree with that was funny line here when quiet. Desperation is the English way. That's hilarious so the proper quiet desperation. Yeah American saw the Times so I love the price there were prize is a this. Is the first track on the album. So a reprises a revisit back to a previous peace. And that's what this is. This is just a real quick back to the first song on the album. Just kinda revisiting them. You come home from work for home again. You're just talked about the desperation of life and I'll also kind of wondered with that verse. I like to be here when I can see talking about. Finally getting off the road. Or maybe they've been onto her for a long time and just like to come back to a comfortable place for once. Is He lamenting having the SUV? Relax good maybe. He's being facetious about the whole thing years. I think there's long what a great my goodness I can never get tired of. The song agree and accept the clocks clocks. I mean I know there's integral but I get what you're saying. It's hard to get excited about listening to clocks. I mean it is what it is that is one of my favorite teams of all time and I think is fantastic album but even even on the album that stands out as being that is that as highpoint right. There's some weird filler. On that album that was engineered on purpose that the rumor always was if you turn on wizard of Oz and on the third roar of the MGM Lion. Play the album. Start this album and you play it all the way through that. The song was written in engineered to match up with what's going on in the screen. I've always heard that I've tried it. Have you have never have? I've never tried that. It's it's cool. I guess you know there's a time and place for everything Jason and that is called College. Which is the place you're going to do that. 'cause you go at see. What the trend. Yeah you know. It's a fair point. You probably wouldn't get me into a laser show for paying fluoride. Oh yeah when I was eighteen. I thought it was fantastic. Going anywhere lasers I can sit at home and put put it on the couch. And they'll do it for me. That's that was a great selection number five Time Pink Floyd dark side of the Moon from nineteen seventy-three so we're going to take a little. We'll divergence here okay. I thought you were GONNA say we're gonNA take a break. Oh no no no no no no those of you at home can see me like doing the no. We're not taking a break now. We're not taking a break. We're taking a kind of a marked change from the last couple tracks though. I think this is the only jazz on pure jazz song that we have on the top ten list. This is so what by miles Davis off the fantastic album kind of blue nineteen fifty-nine. This is the first track off of that album. Obviously sets the mood for the rest of the album and is my favorite jess on of all time. I don't listen to a lot of jazz but the Jazz I listen to a lot. That makes any sense in most of the jazz that I like is all comprised from this very specific John sub-genre of jazz from this time period will miles Davis and Coltrane and the biggest thing is is yet cannibalize business period. I believe came out in fifty nine as well. You're probably right about that so I'm gonNA actually. I'm GonNa let you nerd on this for just a second. You got some good notes of. I know you're very talking about the modal stuff. So why don't you explain the modal piece of this and anything else? You want to talk about the rundown of this album. The individuals playing on this reads like a hall of fame roster. I actually have in my notes that it's a. Who's who of who you could possibly pick the play on something. Amazing this is. This is everybody that matters at the time. The Great American style music is jess without question is jazz everything that came before jazz and everything that came after jazz either leading up to or leading from Jazz. I think you could make the argument. Somebody else's said this is not me? I'm stealing this. That jazz is at least up until the time period. He said this really the only original for mayor American American music. That's right that's everything was imported came over with this was actually the specially this was created. Here this is our thing if you will. That's right that's right So oddly enough. The album kind of blue is one of my all time favorite albums of all time in my track playing number on this. I can't even tell you listened to I learned I learned music from a man named Buddy Metais He had us. He was our stage. Banter jazz band director. This man taught me music. I know music because buddy maintain a great man. I wish more people knew buddy is from Bowling Green Kentucky. I believe if I'm not mistaken played in a traveling circus right out of high school traveling traveling circus in the band. And if I'm not mistaken I think he he. He may hammering me on this but I think he played trombone but he's not a trombone player. He's a saxophone player. I guess I haven't been to a lot of circuses in realized they had they used to back. Then okay back. They had a live band at the circuit spectrum. I would say when he graduated high school. He went on tour with a with a circus. Maybe getting these these completely wrong. That's what it makes Mr Mackay. If you're out there please correct me but but regardless it makes for a hell of a story one way or the other it does I don't know anyone of the music since I've ever been around. I don't know anyone who has who knows music more than buddy and he had us play a song called all blues from the South. This has five Johnson correct. But this was my first introduction to jazz was all about K. MR T. He actually wrote music for Doc. Severinsen on the tonight show. No this is a man who he knows. Stuff tastes great man. But let's talk about Jasper Second Jazz. The American jazz came up through some of the early pioneers. I Louis Armstrong Louis Armstrong right and so it was This is excellent stuff yet. Dixieland stuff This is the court. This is the structure. This is the way the Melody Goes. And so we're going to follow along with that. Chart. These things out. Every single note was turned out that way. These big bands. They they knew what to follow you. Get into some of the guys that came after that count basie. Sonny rollins These guys who are coming along they were taking that concept and they were changing. It and Miles Davis is the forefather of post Bob Jess or hard BOP jazz. It came from Bebop Jazz. Guys like Sonny rollins and those cats were playing and then it got into modal jazz right here. This is model is so instead of these are the notes that go into the song these what he would do he would go. We're playing sixteen Mars of this. We're playing sixteen bars of this. We're going to return with eight Mars of this eight bars. This and we're back to the front. I don't care what you play inside. There has to be inside of this is this is this is improvisational. This is predominantly improvisational jazz. A chord structure. And we're going to go so far like you just said and then you guys just take off and do what you WanNa do right to your point like most of this album was recorded in one to takes. A lot of this stuff was not even rehearse one or two. Yeah Yeah I mean. Basically all these. We're talking greats here. We went through some of the names. Cannonball Adderley Cannonball Adderley is. I can't even tell you how Monster Saxophonist John. Coltrane is one of the greatest of all time one of the greatest in fact. He's probably his love. Supreme is probably my second favorite jazz album of all time. He's amazing Bill Evans on piano. Paul Chambers I mean this is. These guys are amazing okay. So Mas Davis on Trumpet Cannonball Adderley and John Coltrane on Saxophone Bill Evans on piano. Don't have Gil Evans G. I L. Evans List on here. Who wrote some of the songs and was producing the album but didn't play on the truck. No relation to bill happened to have names. That sound similar but Gil Evans and Miles Davis did some of the greatest jazz compositions ever together And then you have Paul Chambers. Who is so solid on the base? That's big stand up bass without any funds when when you can't get this off here the piano and the bass like the way this get started like this is just like such a mood setting jazz thing. It was just absolutely fantastic. The whole thing's fantastic obviously but back to the point when we get this. Who's WHO and these guys are walking into. The studio and miles is like all right here. Let's roll with it. Yes flip the tape. And let's see what happens then. They they would set a microphone up on the drums by the way. Jimmy Cobb was the drummer pioneer jazz. Me that again. This is A. Who's who list of jazz musicians? I know there's a lot of people out there that so far. You've heard what we've done. It's rock and roll around in a sudden we pull this jazz composition. We're totally earning out. I think you have to go. I don't think you like jazz. And if you don't want to go into the time to deal with the theory and very musicians or whatever you don't think you like jazz. It's not a genre you're into. I would just encourage you to pull up your I tunes your spotify or whatever it is you stream music on and just pull up kind of blue pull up just give it a listen and you may decide that you actually like jazzy. Didn't know and what you're GonNa do when you pull kind of blue is. You're going to start with this song. Here's Bill Evans on piano. Paul Chambers on on that Big Bass. The intro does a follow the pattern of the rest of the police out. They're going to get answer. My buddy fairly. Hey Buddy Fairley. How's it going man Farley WanNa make sure that I didn't get to nerdy when it came to the musicianship but for those of you who are out there. Who are listening. This makes sense. I think too late. We're playing this in the key of d but in Dorian mode which is all the Hawaii if you're looking at a piano all the white keys so it's actually all the letters that are in a C major but you starting on d and then it's go to e Flat Dorian which is An eighth flat major chords aid to start on E. Flat. And here we go. Yes this start off with is completely different and then suddenly bring here. We go here comes. Here comes the theme here. We go and we just got just GONNA kick off your. We'll get real gentle like miles would go in and go work collected by the way he had a he had threatened. And so that's why you talk like this. I thought he was just being cool So he would walk in and go. It's going to start off this Indian. Paul you're GonNa this after sixteen bars in the ours in eight bars again. We're going to go and out point to you. And he takes place and culturing you play in. You're going to play a solo and then I'm GonNa play a solo and we're going to go back and forth until this thing is done and that my friend is modal Jazz. Here we go. It's not a base which you think of as Jazz Bass right that walking up and down and the whole symbol on the background. They're just kind of steady steady. She goes if you will. Judy knew was constantly for hours at a time. Could you imagine sitting there? Just the right symbol on the one in itunes before you gotTa Really Love Playing Music. You can hear that rush sneered drum back. They're still barely tapping. You hear the Bass Drum Kenny. Based on you might hear from time to time. When he picks up a filter they must be just keeping him going these keeping a one two three keeping everybody in line Davis so much Until the bitches brew to metric basically I was out. I can't I can't do any of that. There are career. Background is the best way to eat. Miles was in the first heavy metal. What we know as rebels. He was absolutely just stuff that you know if your parents into the woods and all that kind of cranky can't be crap back in the sixties finger to not sure sure but I just can't take anything after this period so you didn't like sketches of Spain. Not as much now. It's okay here we go. Sex Muscle utterly didn't play on the song. Well he's listening to credits on the song. We'll just on the rest of the album. I got the style of David Gilmour puts air underneath his these guys. There's no air escaping. Yes it's it's catching every up. It's they're just enough of the pasta ticket. Brian feeling he went so high up on the base. Bacteria dropped out of the recording. Paul Chambers was known for not only was he plucking that base from time to time he would pull out a photo across really orchestra style plus music music. That's true mastery of that instrument bill plant in two different genres yet. So I think it's great that you can auto to Your Voice Conde but did we just talk about the beginning yet. You Connie your no pulse. Amer's that's right you know so if you're listening now you're bored with. I need a Martini Martini. Somebody ringing Martini in here police. I need to get a camel cigarette. Break the filter exactly sunglasses sunglasses on inside. The this is just cool. I mean this is. This is the soundtrack to cool. The tragedies. Next album was the birth of the cool. I think Bertha cool was came before this tragedy of this lifestyle. Is that so many of these? Great Musicians were lost to heroin addiction. It was kind of the. It was kind of the thing that was miles at severe here with addiction. Culturing died of overdose. I believe it was just part of the culture within this jazz world. These rebels they were the heavy metal at at one time they were the one billion cultural yes so that the social fight for civil liberties for for black men and women started in the public eye with American jazz with Bebop Post Bop Jazz. Miles Davis Take Shit and we're going to Charles. Manson was the same way ahead lyrics to it my wife fouls fables lyrics and it was all about the governor of Arkansas. Who wouldn't let the little girls? I'm not a little Rock Arkansas. Little Girls School after integration. In so that song fables a follows a is was about that governor in it is excoriating that man for being a racist and not girls go to sleep. That's hilarious because now this is a jazz like our parents music right. I'll listen to like I said like this kind of stuff. Britney Spears so this this that's my kids music and my mom does not. I mean if you if you put on his now. This is kind of like considered to be. This is a nice. You know it's not rebell- rebellious safe. Easygoing this is probably the TAMEST track on our list but at the time I mean every everything is what it is. Win It is right. I mean this in its time period. This was something very different now. Per capita all things equal. This could be the most rebellious all right list. If you consider at the time that came out what was the social setting I think. That's a valid point cultural. Move here. He almost convinced the song there. But Dude Dude Dude Dude it and that was kind of the beauty of the modal jazz stuff is these guys would hit on a lick. That sounded good at the time and they would play it over and over and over again. Run with it. Yeah Yeah and then we'll be done and it was just Kinda gone into either Miles even said later on in his lifetime they would go back. Why did you ever play the song this way he said? I never even listen to albums after they were reported so as many times as I listened to kind of loot as many times as you listen to kind of blue. It's it's an infinite amount more than miles Davis ever listened to. That's interesting it's like an author never reading his book but I mean I guess if you wrote it and you were there when it happened. And what's the point revisiting for him? It happened once it was the The feeling in the spirit and and that's that's a that's a different way of creating music too right. I mean you got a lot of people that might demo their songs in rehearse them and they go into the studio and right with the rest of the band. This guy is just like all right. I got some guys. Let's run with this thing. You haven't invested all this time scripting all these notes out and putting all this thought into it so like you said it was one it was in the next time they played any was totally different. Now he's still kept those those same concepts Those guys would be at the five spot in New York City or the vanguard They would go into these jazz clubs and they would go ARA. We're GONNA do this and he wouldn't. He would walk to these musicians. They were half decisions and he'd say I'm doing de Dory and I'm doing sixteen bars of this e flat doors even keep up and here we get it goes. Aa BB. You ready there. There's a live version. The song you can find on Youtube that is played almost twice as fast. It is a remarkably like sounds so different really. Tempo is so much faster really. Yeah I'd love to. I've never seen all for you know. Send it to you. It's very very different if we talk about something like that. I'm usually pretty good about going back and finding it and I'll try to put those in the show links by the way for the end I'll see if I can find it for you. Okay well that was my. That was my number four and I love that song. Thank you love that Song so much Because I love Miles Davis. One of the absolute greatest. I'm trying to figure out when we're going to diverge here and disagree with each other and here. We are happening to the divergence. When we turn the page this is GonNa be a much different conversation in the seventies speaking of Progressive Rock. There was a type of music that was called. Jazz fusion tricked That was it came from session musicians that were in the L. A. World and these cats were look super super good musicians and they developed a type of rock and roll call yacht rock yacht and then on my yacht listening to this. That's right and I'm not sure that there is a better description for Steely Dan's music than yacht rock. Not Not that I would utter on the air. Yeah steely Dan was two guys Walter. Becker and Donald Fagin. Everyone else that ever played with was a success session. Musician and When I say session musician I mean these were like day hands or hired you come in. I need you to come in for a day and I'll give you sixty professional guys that all they did. They made their living just recording on albums. They didn't they didn't there was live band. The steely Dan would hire. Live musicians tour with them when they went on the radio. Free is yes different. Different guys at a touring band and they would bring in different guys to do their studio stuff but it was always just the two guys writing and coming up. It was only fagin and Becker that was it and when Becker died it was only fagin. And so now how long? How long did they can keep touring without Becker I? He's maybe have one tour since. Then we Walter Becker just a couple of years ago right. I remember on the on the I've talked about this before. One of my favorite release stones sons is through and through. That was one of the only tracks that was sung by Keith Keith Ridge. I am Walter Becker. He played guitar and he had one song that that he sang on. And it was on an album called everything must go and it's a song called slang of ages. And if you've ever got into steely Dan before. And you want to hear the Great Walter Becker Scene. You'll have to. Everything must go and listen to a song called. Slang of ages. And it's so cool. It's a fifty mid-fifties year old guy. Who's in a bar trying to pick up a young shik and you can hear him trying to act all cool and stuff and he's given these. Hey at one point the line goes you said you're from the Netherlands or was that the nother world but it's meant to be that these guys knew they were cheese. They knew they were geeks. Which is why the Song Deacon Blues by steely Dan from the impeccable Album Asia? From nine hundred seventy seven is. This is why this is my number four song of all time this song. I is about change about sewing being able to change into whatever they WANNA be. The words are written from the biggest in the world. Who's walking down the street and decides he's no longer going to be a nerd and he's going to transform himself into a coup test player. Just GonNa flip the switch on it Yeah Yeah and so Power of will yeah. D. Jones was a football player that played for the chargers. And the Rams I believe in the In the sixties and seventies and he was just a total bad ass and they thought the name. Deacon Jones was school in so deep inside. I came up with Deacon Blues and then they called the producer because fagin becker were nerds and they said Hey. We need a cool a sports team. That has a color in it That's that's really good. And they said at that time Alabama Crimson tide was He was bear. Bryant was Alabama is the Greatest College football program of all time out. Oh my goodness just spilled out into the that had to hurt. But they said what you're right. Yeah Alabama Crimson tide and so- Crimson tide. Deacon Blue's happened to have the exact same amount of syllables so to the song. Therefore Deacon Blue's Gotcha. Yeah this guy says he is going to become something cool. He looks down at his shadow and says this is the day of the expanding man. That shape is my shade. He's talking about the shadow down where I used to stand in. So he's talking about how he's going to transform himself maybe he's some corporate nerd. Maybe he's a computer guy and he's talking about looking through the window a glass inside of the bar and transforming himself on stage so that he will quote. Learn to work. The saxophone. Learn to work the saxophone. How play just when you drink scotch whisky all night long and Indaba High New Wheel Dallas Overrun. So he's going to be a tragic blue-sky we just came from blues. Which is funny that we juxtaposed these the way we did it. I was going to make the comment that we actually had the two I had actual jazz. You have whatever this kind of jazz fusion. But it's both Jack I mean it's we had our jazz back back not by not by plan it. Just kinda worked out that way. That's right and so The the Song Ins with him with this fantasy where he's longing to be somebody cool and the last verse is. This is the night of the expanding so he starts with. This is the day of the expanding man so suddenly. He's dreaming. He's daydreaming. Put himself in there and he sees himself on stage and he says this is the night of the expanding man. I take one last drag as I approach the stand. I cried when I wrote the Song Sumi if it goes too long. This brothers free. I'll be who I want to be. What's beautiful about the song is? This is someone who will never ever be this. And it's so desperate and so sad but he's trying so hard to put himself in there too like inhibitions. They're so clean so crisp so the musicianship is fantastic. I mean obviously we got session musicians. I mean you can only be a session musician if you're a virtual you've got to be very very good. So you're this isn't five guys started in a garage together figure out as they go. The musicianship impeccable question. And this isn't Miles Davis and Coltrane and chambers in Evans and cavs microphone. And this is yeah. This is the direct opposite of that. This is a scripted arranged. You will play these notes. You're not scripted. And they would bring session musicians and make play all day if they didn't like fire and bring somebody else in the exact same thing on multiple days stack on top of each other in which is so overdone right but there was they wanted that was a craft and I think that's that's a fundamental reason. I'm not a fan because it is to Polish imperfect. It just just doesn't do it for me if you're with that level but having said that. I can appreciate how good these guys are. One of the session musicians. Bernard Purdie the drummer. Should I recognize that you should? Because you're number ten so homeless fool in the rain right and John Bonham was playing the purdie shuffle which was a day. Yeah okay cool shuffled. That was named after thirty. Some of the musicians some of the guys play with. Cdn Steve Gadd. Who's one of the greatest drummers to ever live He's not on this track and he was actually on the Song Asia from the title. Track they played was with a leave. It's Jeff mckerrow whose brother. Steve was in tow. And maybe Jefferson Tunnel as well looking at your session notes here at Lea- written our plays on this and that I know that name for some reason was he. Did he have a jazz musician later? On Session Guy Okay. Yeah this is such a Guy. By the way Porquera right was a Counterpart in new buddy but my teacher really. Yeah what a what a circle back and forth there all roads lead to grand man. That's what does the truth looking at Lea- written our in. Yeah so he's a he's been playing since the sixties he doesn't hasn't played with anybody. I know but I knew. I recognize the name from somewhere hidden album called captain fingers. That was my name. Include a stop. I told you there was a time place for everything up. I'm not gonNA force you know. No no listen the whole thing. This is your song word. I said I can appreciate. I can appreciate the craft and I can appreciate the ability to well-structured Song in the courses. Actually quite catching in alerts are very good. It's just do anything for me. So what if you think about what was happening in the seventies with with Jazz Fusion? Cats like yaacob story. Is the weather underground weather report weather for young everything? The weather report is by gas is GONNA flag. No we were not in the weather. This was nothing to do with terrorist organization has but yet that kind of stuff you had the best musicians ever and they were becoming even better. I can take a little bit of weather report mostly just because of Jaakko was just such a fantastic bass player. That's a little Kenny G. From me right there. Okay maybe I should say Kenny. G'S A little that you've ever yacht. Rock is a perfect way described. As you get on a boat you turn this on you. Sit Back and drink all day cruising around in the bay. It's having a good time. Ls La Stop at California W I'm not gonNA take you all the way through. Not No no. It's okay so But but I do WANNA point out that. The Concept of change is a brilliant concept when it comes to lyrical composition. The idea that you can be anything that you want to be. In addition to desperation is also a beautiful concept when it comes to poetry So someone who was desperately trying to be something that they're not and you put those together and you have someone who's desperately trying to be something he will never be in. That comes through to me as such a poetics. Such a wonderful story and what I mean th that's such a theme music and art in general right but I mean especially music the idea that you can be something that you're not talking has a song offer main in light where David Byrne basically talks you could he by force of will change his face to represent his ideal face. He doesn't like his face. Could he make us face? Look the way he wants to do is call like this can be somebody just by wanting to be run. Can I forced myself into this position? And you can't but it makes a great song. I don't know if he can't or not. Maybe can you know? Maybe you can try. Sure sure not to get all silence of the lambs think I was looking at cheering. It's inconsequential Hiller. Listen wanting to change who you are is one thing making a suit out of people. We've gone a different direction. There with gum had a big gun and I don't mean that that was a large am revolves rj So we're we're gonNA take a quick break we've gone through our both of our number. Five's perforce coming up. We are about to dive into our top three songs of all time and this is about to get heavy. It's about to get deep and we're about to get really serious stick with us. This is our favorite albums. Attention retail store owners. Imagine this your customer walks in and is greeted by an associate with a tablet an aunt as they browse the store rep makes recommendations based on their current selections all the. While building an accurate customer profile. That you can use to improve business on the back end. This powerful retail management software ensures. You have the correct inventory on. Hand follows up with customers to bring them back to the store and provide the best possible service. Turn each and every one of your employees into a superstar at retail pro demo dot com. That's retail pro demo dot com. This is our favorite albums. That guy over there is Jason. I'm Michael in. We're running down our favorite ten songs of all time specifically number five three one. We've already done five of them before we started with some land by things next. That's Jason Number Five. We went to time by pink. Floyd that was my number five but it was also WanNa Jason's type fives as well. We did so what by Miles Davis? And we just finished up steely. Dan's Deacon Blues of the Nineteen Seventy seven album Asia by the way that's not Asia as an ATS. I A. A. J. They have some archie pronunciation. I mean what are you going to do? What are you GONNA do? Wouldn't we're back into we are? We are hitting our top three sons. That's what we have left. This is going to be fun. You know in talking on the Break Off Mike. About how what we've done before we've done four songs. We have six to go. And just how like how meaningful these these are. This is our top three songs of all time. Lots to talk about Great stuff too and you know this this band. That's that's my three is one of my favorite bands of all time in. This is also one of my favorite albums of all time which is going to be a trend here. This is a track off side three. If I remember correctly vinyl okay the vinyl. It's an realize how dirty you know. I know I do that. Sometimes people look like. Is that really necessary? But two sides of the coin in four sides to the vinyl exactly. Well it's actually There's three sides than a blank side. There's no music yes. I had had just enough for three but not enough for the full four. Yeah interesting You'd think they at least put like an interview or something in there. Well this was nineteen ninety-one so I'm sure if they reissued it. They put interview but they can't do that. So we're talking about is new damage by the band. Soundgarden off of amazing album bad motor finger bad motor finger which came out in nineteen ninety. One what have I said about bad motor finger one of the greatest grunge albums of all time original foundational job. Yeah so this. Is the true grunge giants that came out in. Nineteen ninety-one that was Pearl Jam's Tin. It was bad motor. Figure by Soundgarden in their own is never mind. You know what's interesting about that? We talked about that in the bottom. Five if you will Recognizing on his influence in. I know you're much bigger nirvana fan than I am but I thought it was interesting. Nevada didn't make it into the top ten. I'm GonNa tell you to surprise me. Beatles didn't either alluded to the fact that I loved the Beatles. Yeah I mentioned. Pet sounds by the beach boys. We're specifically by Brian. Wilson who labelled pet sounds as a as a beach boys album. It was actually a Brian Wilson album right. There was nothing even though God only knows is one of the greatest songs ever written One was gorgeous songs written. It's not on my top ten favorite songs. It's funny how that works. Yeah we're we're talking about favorite songs. I if I had to sit here and just like what is the greatest at the station too right. I mean wh-what objectively. What are we talking about like? I perfectly tuned. I mean it's subjective. It's music it is. There's no way in the world you can say. Which is the sergeant pepper's say which one was the best but it was obviously a Beatles but anyway I thought that was interesting with Netanyahu's number two. So soundgarden is in was My favorite of the original grunge. God's okay by a long shot yeah And I think bad bad motor finger is it is so dark and gloomy head. I was almost going to describe grungy as grungy but it really is. I mean is this like plotting heavy deep depressing almost in a Lotta ways but there's some upbeat tunes on the album as well. But the the whole vibe of the thing is is very heavy Just Kinda slogging through it if you will right. I'm very unusual Mix In my opinion just in the sense that you've got the Great Chris Cornell who has I think possibly the voice in grunge and one of the best voices in rock and roll period. I mean these are the top of the list as far as though great singers go. I mean I'm I'm going to like knock on the door and ask Jeff Buckley if Chris Cornell can hang out with me in that apartment in the sky. Yeah we're we're talking about one of the absolute great singers of all time. I need you guys to sit here and sing. A song can do something for me. Kim thile on guitar is a very interesting to our player of. He's he's a style all his own. I mean you always sounds like himself Matt Cameron on drums Interesting well. I'll get to that layer and Ben Shepard on Bass and Ben. Shepard had just joined the band for this album. He wasn't on their first album which was louder than love which came out in eighty nine. I think in a lot of them. Love sounds completely different. But you say that the eighty nine release was it more of kind of that hair metal type. It sounded more like that. I'm actually not grudge. Came from her hair metal researcher among other things. But yeah. I'm not a fan of louder than love. It doesn't do anything for me. This is I would say that. This is the first soundgarden album. Okay in my opinion. Yeah Okay I'm Craig Up. This is new damage by soundgarden from bad motor finger in nineteen ninety one and here we go right off. The top got good as far in belting vocals and not that heavy groove that we were talking about this like if we're going to define what a grunge song has to have. It has to have a crazy painful guitar. Sound as probably going through a boss pedal I'm sure compel a lot of pedals. Yeah It's going to have to enforce bass. Guitar tone is so thick just like sludge almost so new to the point that whenever they hit the little high notes at the end of the that little almost coming off the Chord Gary you really stands out quite a bit because everything is so deep and heavy drums cameras a fantastic drummer. Those guys. He's getting head really really hard. He's obese drumhead is what I know. What you you dirty dirty dirty. He's talking about an accidental due. He's talking about everything. Everything is crashing down around. Yeah when when new damage comes faceless poison new world order I mean keep in mind. This is the early nineties. The new world for pain new world order in all this stuff. It's dark and it's I mean I think you're right these definitely it's a it's a sense of impending it's coming down on you. Turn the backgrounds. I know you pretty well. Yes we spend a Lotta time to go. I thought for sure Black Hole Sun was going to be here really no I would not. I would not have made the cut I mean. Obviously it didn't are appointed. Now there's a there's a stack of soundgarden songs that were in contention but when I had to think about my favorite of all time this was this was the one. This is interesting because these guys are dramatically different than the other two guides of grunts that we just talked about like that they could not be more. Even though they're all lumped into the same thing and they all came from the same town they could not sound more different from Nirvana or Pearl Jam. Golic did not even in the same ballpark in my so. We ridiculed Eddie veterans. Vogel's sure we can go ahead and take a big steaming pile of shit dropped on. Kurt. Cobain's vocals Ya. But he would admit to you that he wasn't even trying the that was one another one. The other things about grunge is that you don't try when it comes to lyrics like when it comes to vocals if you're not trying at all he Chris Cornell is Chris Cornell doesn't have to try he's a Jamir him to Nothing compares to your. Yeah that's pretty insane isn't it? I mean he could sing anything. He just chose to sing those. Listen those knows how he said it. Kinda stumbles into itself at that point. We're dragon your. I hate to do this. I hate to do this. I just talked about David Moore putting a lot of air under his notes. These guys are putting a lot of errands. Receive will be. They're dragging you from one to napster. And that's what's so beautiful about the speed ship. I is that the walk down that minor. Walk down that we talked about Before and these guys he wanted to pick a Like a classic rock band or something has an influence or something that they sound like. I would say that it would be black Sabbath with the heaviness and then just cloudy and these guys to play fast but mostly they played like this. I'd like for us to do a black saddle. It's going to be hard for me to do that. Because Amb me to find them relatively grading even though I think user Butler is pretty bad ass once again I appreciate what they're up to and I can appreciate the influence but it's not necessarily one of my favorite things. Listen to insanity here at the end like failure from before were chaotic inside the desperation where you're trying to break out of the impending dude trying to get out. That's what this was. This never gets old for me. Man His notes that the rains that Cornell has unbelievable if you consider the fact that compels basically playing a guitar solo for like two minutes did almost the blues e ending one of the things. I'm so happy ended with eighties. There's a lot of stuff about eighties. Hair middle stuff that absolutely hate but one of the things subsoil happy Was stopped almost was the fate out in the song that never ends. Yeah our here are go. Whoa WHOA takes fater down like you guys. Play this for fifteen or sixteen times and when I think we've had enough cuts I'll just slowly fade you down. It's like don't you start this song? How do we not end it? You GotTa know how the Song Right and I. It has a great as mutt language. I mean how many ACDC ended like that just kind of faded into the ether. Yeah that's the kind of stuff just bothers me because like okay. If you hear a song live which is the best way to hear? Some starts the front with us all the way through. Yeah that's all supposed to work. This is these guys. I also got to see at Lollapalooza in ninety two along with Pearl Jam. Good God and yes show and they were very good. My goodness doughty putting it mildly a fun fact for you Matt Cameron has been drumming for Pearl Jam since Nineteen Ninety Eight. What is Pearl Jam? We have to do this well. You had Pearl Jam in your list so I just thought that was a fun connection back so sal. Garden's drummer showing Pearl Jam in ninety eight and played for them. Ever since. No kidding yeah and when soundgarden got back together a few years ago or so ago He was playing for both hands at the same time. Really from a knew Chris Cornell and Eddie vedder were friends because they had the comp simple of the dog the dog out and they had that That song that was as much of a part of the grunge movement as any of the other day talking about hunger strike. Yeah yeah that was. That was a that was that song was on the Radio and MTV twenty four seven yet in that time period. So that was that was. That was a better Stone Czar and Mike McCready from Pearl Jam's well then Maybe Matt Cameron on drums. I can't remember that I'm not sure it was based with that. I should know that but it was those because all of those guys were friends with the lead singer of who died us. Don't know alison chains. No Walter Becker. I'm not gonNA tell you we're gonNA come back later. I'm GonNa let you think on that for a little bit because you should know that. Say the question one more time. Those guys were all friends with a guy who died effect to argue hint to the guys from Pearl Jam. Were in the band with him before he died staley. No I don't know mother love bone. Oh Okay Okay and mother. Love Bone was one of the other. This among your mother Love Bone. They had one album early Singer dies a heroin in so Chris Cornell in Stugotz are both were friends with him and put the supergroup together at Temple of the dog at veterans joined Pearl. Jam comes along to sing on one of the tracks. Yeah maybe two tracks. I can't remember for sure. That's a good one. Yeah Hey yeah so that was my here here to learn folks you come across here a couple of tunes geeks and you're GonNa get some if you want some random information We might be the guys for you. Yes that was my number. Three new damage soundgarden bad motor finger. Interesting your number. Three Song is new damage by Soundgarden. It is I. I think that is a great song. I don't know how many times I've skipped over it because it would come up and it's just like barrel and maybe that impending doom is the thing that was so jarring you know with ending Bedume in Chris Cornell's just it. They're not even a radic vocals they are. They're they're definitely deliberate but they scare me. I understand that song plotting. It's super dark. There's stuff all over the place with it. it's not one of their more catchy upbeat moving forward songs on the album. It's an easy one to skip over. I sure sure. And what's funny? Though is with that like chaotic feel theft plotting. There's still a melody there and that's the thing see. I've always hated a lot of that if if the guy can't sing really bugs me. It really bugs me a lot. I can't do the screaming thing off key nonsense just really gets on my nerves and he is a master singer. No It's good to be wrong is just different no I get. We realized once we got to this point that the episode was going to go way longer than we expected. So we finished up our number five or number four songs apiece. We'll come back with another episode split so that we cover our top three songs. Thank you so much for joining us. This is Michael. That's Jason and this is our favorite albums

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Pearl Jam Sucks

Your Favorite Band Sucks

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Pearl Jam Sucks

"You don't want a repeat performance of that one time recorded one time one time one time is actually true though in all fairness to us was only one time of all the episodes were recorded or didn't fuck up. He asked me yet. Well i hit record this time. Okay listening to this already. Quick to notes a for everyone listening to podcast. We dressed the part of this episode. I'm pretty positive but we did a really good job at dressing like it's nine hundred ninety s attire here. Yeah you can't see. But i'm wearing unless combat boots also. I did something different for tonight. I think people in you be proud of me. I did my research. But i worked my way back so i figured one of the best things to do is we're going to approach him is like a talk about pearl jam's positive contributions to music and the best contribution. I think that anyone could give pearl jam. And this is a big one. Mind you is is this. Is this riffa here. Journey league. Mary hi you think. That protests possible for the police come on. it's probably the greatest contribution of the band. In my opinion best thing that pearl jam ever did was paved the way for creed. Maybe we don't even maybe we shouldn't do an episode on pearl jam. We should just acknowledge if thanks the pearl jam creed exists in. The world is a better place. Is that what you wanna do. Since you lost your notes for this episode is still have a most of mark soggy his homework. Well just to undo all that goodwill you've generated for pearl jam so far in this episode john mayer says yellow. Ledbetter song made him want to pick up a guitar. So i think we can all agree. Fuck pearl jam program gives us creed which is great but also not worth a flip side gives us john mayer which obviously in the gates anything good pro team also made neil young very cool in the nineties which is a pretty serious offense Listen to pearl jam then you also have to listen to dave matthews band and vice versa. These things beget one another right. Yeah but you know her. Jam raji ham fans in my opinion or the people that will say that they love pearl jam and pearl. Jam can do no wrong type thing but will not acknowledge all of the other things other aspects that are come with pearl jam like creed. They'll say creeds sucks yeah while they listened to pearl jam which is crazy and then so on and so forth all the other beautiful things that program has given us like dave matthews band or so many other mid to late nineties rock bands there. Some specific verbal tics. Dave matthews uses that he had to have gotten from. Eddie vedder those hiccup things that he does where he goes like real high. Sometimes i don't know where who do you think ripped off you. Think eddie ripped off. James hatfield Field rip off any better the year are you're you're you don't know this but i'm also gonna also have the theory that i was going to make in this episode. That pearl. Jam is a failed hair metal band so it would make a lot of if this guy was just listening to a ton of metallica. Is the band. He and this is where ended up but seriously. What is the difference between the song daughter. And every hootie and the blowfish song. I don't know there's no evidence that i hear also pearl. Jam is a jam band. Their name is pearl jam. That's about come pretty. Obviously yeah but also jam is right. There and pearl jam uses weird time signatures than half the band's we've covered who commonly get called prog so i think it's pretty fair. Call them jam band. They are definitely jam band aid. They don't play the same set list every night. That's very jam band thing. That's a dead giveaway to a champion. Yeah if you go some fish five nights a week you get five different sets because fish doesn't play the same set every night pearl. Jam is notorious for doing the same thing and bootlegs or sold bootlegs that they never played the same set every night because they are just jamming. It is in their name. It is undeniable. I don't know if he still does this. But i know there was a period in which eddie vetter was bringing a bottle of wine onstage with him. That is some chris. Robinson of the black crowes barefoot on a rug onstage. Bullshit jam band enough. If i've ever heard. I'm almost positive that when he did his solo stuff mccain when he came here he almost positive he did that. At least. that's what i heard. I don't know if he did or not. But let's let's let's see here. The band is originally called also. So i don't know did you look up the band. Name thing the stories of the band name now. I don't need to read that much. Bullshit was the original story was something about the psychedelic jam that his grandmother made or so. I don't know movies story. Which is what you would come up with if you named your band calm and didn't want to admit that in an interview. Exactly here's the thing is years later. He gets asked about it and he's like no that's bullshit i made it up. Yeah so the band's original name is mookie blaylock. Whose number is ten pearl. Jam's first album is ten after mookie. Blaylock i think eddie just like you know. Probably beat is meet the basketball. I think he was so horny for basketball that he was like. We're going to name our band pearl jam because you know mookie blaylock in basketball makes me come. I'm not a doctor. But that sounds like such a solid diagnosis to just say i. I should probably be a psychiatrist. That is going to psychoanalyze his brain. What you just proposed is less outrageous than the mental illnesses in half of this band songs. So the first album. The first album should be. We should have had a psychiatrist with us. The breakdown the the insanity. That is the first album of Right out of the gate album is called ten but it has eleven songs on it. So counting isn't their strong suit. That's infuriating. it's how hard would have been off another one of the songs. Yeah especially when we're talking about a band who famously refused to release one of their most popular songs as a single and just let it get all the radio play anyways saying release we could actually be just a b side like yellow ledbetter was a b side their actual most popular song ever is yellow ledbetter and they cut that from the first album so yeah cut one of these songs ten songs and then it would at least make sense. I realized i forgot to make an outline for this episode. So we're just gonna go for it. I guess i've never tried to listen to this whole album before. Because i did not know the first track is just a peter. Gabriel song that turns into the worst attempt at hair metal. I've ever heard in my life and when you think about how many people call this their favorite album and then just picture every time they press play on their favorite album. This is the first thing that they hear every time they listen to their favorite album. It's hilarious. This album is not an album. That's actually good that you wanna listen to on purpose. It's just a style. Java in an inner record you're young and dumb and you thought this was so deep in weird indifferent and so it was so good to you at the time. Because you're depressed little teenager with no life crying in your bedroom every night you should go back and listen to it now as an adult and realize that they're terrible it's terrible and you should delete it from your playlists also assuming that you're hearing is a little bit more discerning than it was at the time if you go back and listen to a bunch of other bands that were called grunge around this time and then listen to pearl jam's music just disconnected from all the visual and everything else you know about the ban sonic elements to sonic elements. This band never made grunge music right. Yeah that's something that people argue about. It's not like people do label it grunge. Is it grunt. I don't think it is. Because i think it's i mean kurt cobaine agrees with me for one. I don't know if he ever used the word grunge but he had a lot of things to say about early. Pearl jam while kirk obama was still alive to hear it. I would say. Kurt was not a fan. He did not like this band and one of the reasons. Why was all the fucking guitar solos. Which guitar solos in and of themselves do not exclude you from being grunge earl. Soundgarden wouldn't qualify. But i never heard kirk and say anything bad about sound gardens guitar solos because that's not the only thing that's not the only problem here. It's what those solos are like. I think even mike mccready has called some of his most well known guitar parts. Just a bad imitation of stevie vaughan. Yeah and he would know. He's the one who plays them every night. And it's what they sound like to me too. I remember watching this like in with him in a guitar thing and it was almost like he had this weird shame when he played the guitar parts. It was like if you actually looked at his face when he was saying they were playing it he was just kind of like. Oh this is a this is a cool one right. Whoa but you can see like the shame in his eyes like he was like. I don't really want to own the fact that i wrote this. I want to know if he kept taking guitar lessons. All the way through and through is proof that you can be mediocre huge. You can be a mediocre guitar player. You could be a mediocre singer. I mean one of the greatest contribution or the worst contributions eddie vedder gave to music as a whole is. He normalized being a shitty singer. You could be a bad singer in be absolutely massive. You could be a shady boring guitar player in your band. Could be huge. You didn't have to be best. You didn't have to better. you didn't have to practice. You didn't have to get better at singing. You could just be pearl jam. The effects of just him as a vocalist are so far reaching. Yeah and when you get into their actual music it. This is not a great legacy to have in opinion. You cannot say with a straight face. That eddie veterans a great singer in not in the same breath say scott stapp through was a better singer. Rou because he'd built on. What eddie did he made it better. He had a wider range. Marshall player tarpley better like infinitely better like you cannot say that you think pearl jam is this is infinitely gray band in not think that creed was a better version of pearl jam there literally a better version. It is such a catch twenty two four pearl jam fans. You gotta think because that's exactly right what you're saying is exactly right but a majority of pearl jam fans are way too cool. They would never in a million years a admit that they ever liked creed and certainly right. Now it'd be like no not creeds. Treat is lame creed is so dumb. This is the kind of band that you learn how to play an instrument to Because their parts are so within the grasp of beginners on any instrument. If you wanna learn how to play guitar and you like pearl jam. This is very easy. Entry level playing an instrument. You can play these drum parts if you already play an instrument and you're looking to branch out learn different one too. I mean yeah dude you literally learn a couple really simple literal chord progressions and then you just go soon. She's saying. Hey god. I mean anyone can do that. I'm a shitty zinger. But i can sing that shit all day. You nailed that innovator. Hers nation my friend as far as i could tell the most important thing stone gossard does in. His band is have that name on his birth certificate. Pretty sweet day never noticed anything. This guy has done in a song but that name does sound like a character from spy. Novel right yeah or like a superhero. If clark kent clark kent alter-ego to like if goose man was a superhero. Yeah g stone gossard. Guzman was just here. You always seem to miss him. It's a pretty big name. Hey mark have you ever wanted to make a podcast. I do want to make a podcast. Why why are you asking. Well of anchor. Because i would say even if you already have a podcast you're probably paying for hosting unless you're already with anchor because the thing about anchor is it is a free podcast hosts but it also has all the tools that you need to record and edit your episodes right on a phone or computer if you have an iphone or a modern phone you can use anchor and record a podcast. It will sound amazing. You can even stitching ads and monetize it right away. Which is something that i would say. No other platform offers free. No that's incredible better than that. You can add songs from spotify catalog to episodes of your podcast. Anchor also will distribute your show to all the major podcast apps just any other host. But here's the thing. If i'm going to start a podcast. Well how do i get paid. 'cause you do want to get paid right. Everyone wants to get paid. Not only is anchor. Free it's a way that any podcast can make money from there show. They don't have a large audience. Wow it's really everything you need to make a show. So here's what you need to do. Download the free anchor app right now or you can go to anchor dot. Fm and get started today who names their kids stone. Strong mud is pretty cool. I mean it's right under beowulf on the list sick. Although are you setting them up for failure because obviously everyone's gonna call him stone her if you don't see a picture of this guy and his application comes in the name is the first thing you're gonna read. Yeah that's probably how they got signed seriously. Some dude at the record label probably assumed that stone gossard was the front man of this band and signed pearl. Jam that second yeah. I don't even have to changes assholes name this eddie. Eddie's the singer no no no no no no. That's not what we signed up for stone. Stone is the singer stone but the poor guy problem. How many times does he. How times in that guy's life has he heard stone stone. Oh i mean i bet you. He's not released talked about it. That's what makes you a bad ass. Deserving of the name is having those survive childhood with a name like true not easy for any small child to do and then converting this shitty childhood into pearl jam songs you become worthy of the name because of the abuse inflicted upon you because of it through through like beowulf would suck in second grade rough real talk when we named our kids. These like the things that went through my head of like. What would their nicknames be. What like i was really thorough and stone wasn't in the top one hundred names. It is weird. How this band never really made grunge music. But it's almost like they overcompensated for not actually making grunge by leaning as far as they could the most extreme versions of quote unquote grunge ideals. Whenever you see. Mister show. Skit or ben stiller show skit or an snl skit from this time period. Making fun of a grunge band if there's a fake grunge band in it and it's obviously all this stuff is supposed to be funny. That the stereotypically grunge band does. They are without exception making fun of pearl jam specifically every single time. Go back and watch every one of them. Yes if you see someone with long hair. Flannel t shirt all tied around your waist or under waste unless com only boots. Yes one hundred percent of time. You're going oh pearl jam or eddie. Vetter one hundred percent of the time they are absolutely the The term can't think whatever they're like they're the host or child runs quite literally the poster child of the seattle sound. I guess we'll probably be the more accurate way to say it. Although everyone does say grunge about this band sure grunge fashion pearl. Jam is grunge. If you're talking about a musical sound pearl jam is not. If you were to say let me who would be. Who do you think actually would be. Maybe ellison chains else change runge yes thousand genes and soundgarden are in my opinion the twin pillars of actual grunge music regardless of whether you like listening to either of those bands. Those are the main two right as far as the sound of it goes and it also branches out into band. Like tad or melvin and church. Very early in nevada but pearl. Jam is like a joke about all that shit and the temple of the dog song hunger strike and eddie vedder can affect anything with how much of a joke pearl jam is. That song is a great example. That song sounds like a joke. I would come up with for this episode if it didn't already exist like in this segment of this episode out said some shit like yeah. It's too bad that Chris cornell and eddie vedder never recorded a song about coming to terms of being rich rockstars. We could hear them try out nonsense. Each other was weird. Is that temple of the dog was before pearl jam. Yes that song came out before pearl. Jam even put out ten. Yeah and no one gave us shit when they released. That song nirvana blew up. That any of this stuff came on your radar. Ninety nine point nine percent of the people listening to the app. But you know it's so weird you listen to cornell's singing and eddie vedder singing in the fact that nobody immediately was just like you know this dude got to go kind kinda crazy. Like how do you listen to chris cornell saying and then eddie vedder cingo while what a great matchup uniquely go who is this clown and why is he on the album. Like this dude out of here. The official story is chris. Cornell is there and they're recording or practicing rehearsing hunger strike and it's like the first time the cornell has played with the band and he's trying to do both vocal parts because that's the way he's written it and he just doesn't physically have the breath to do it and eddie vedder. Is there in the rehearsal space waiting for mookie blaylock rehearsal session and i think he said that he was putting duct tape on a bongo or some shit like i don't know and he noticed as a singer. He looked over. Notice what chris cornell was trying to do and did not have the breath to be able to like could not seeing both lines. Sure so eddie. Walks up to a microphone and just starts doing the second part that he can hear chris trying to do in like that's the first time this guy's voice got put on record because of that situation. One guy literally didn't have enough breath comp together. Like he doesn't have a little sampler where he wrote his voice twice. This is way before reggie watts. Chris cornell was not hip to sampling right. Live or and eddie vedder gets apart. Still how do you if you're not the engineer or everyone in the room. Eddie goes in the vocal booth to record his part. Whatever and everyone just like nine their head like yeah yeah cool cool and then as soon as eddie leaves detract this surely as soon as he leaves the room they all look on like. Oh no no no. Don't do this get the shit outta here right now. This dude is dude. Got to go. Like i don't know that was really nice for me on go win home Okay great eddie. Thanks for your contribution. Can you imagine being a parent during the grunge era and watching your kids decide to go outside dress like this. No from the biggest fears as a parent. Like what's going to be popular when my kids are teenagers in. What am i going to have to witness them. Doing yeah just walking out of the house. You know like like torn up jeans. Where did i go wrong honey. Your teachers know everything's okay at home. Right honey it's ninety five degrees out. Why are you wearing flannel. Or why is it wrapped around your waist. Put it on your freezing shirt on. Why do you have it reverend your waist you wearing a jacket and you have a shirt on your ways like what. The fuck is wrong today. Y'all's field trip to swimming park. This doesn't make sense. Yeah nineties grunge fashion. I gotta look the par- mom. I gotta look the part in i. Would i mean. I don't really know not in my my time but i guess i mean i'm sure a lot of kids grew their hair out because they want long hair. We're talking twelve year old shopping at the army surplus store. Yes true true true growing their hair out wearing those ridiculous ads that some of them were. And then you had to learn how to like fake shell shock and rock back and forth while your hair down in your face. What a terrible time time in music history is fashion. It's so embarrassing. I mean liking bad music when you're young. That's one thing but all other eras and most other genres of music the music wasn't just the most embarrassing parts about the hormones flooding your system when you're a teenager genres are just about being horny. And that's great. That's the one thing that you don't have to be ashamed about provided you acted like a civilized human being. We're going through puberty as being horny all the time but being sad all the time is the shitty part that no one think about at least at least vanilla. Ice was your favorite band back. Then it made sense because you were going to like try to do. Some dance moves. So you can get laid program was just like you're definitely now hooking up with anybody to pearl jam you know what i mean like. Is that really a thing. Do people like listen to pearl jam ago. Man i gotta go make out with somebody like it's the exact opposite of what happens. Literally the exact opposite. I'm gonna listen to pearl jam. Sit in my room and feel depressed. i am. I think pearl jam was way ahead of the curve on that whole faking a self diagnose mental illness online for attention thing. They can't they pave the way. Oh yeah and you could say that. Just based on the way they were dressed honestly but they clearly intentionally decided to become the favourite band of depressed teenagers which is funny because again that means pearl jam. Thought grunge was this. They looked at nirvana and recorded the song alive Because that's what they thought was going on. So does it have all gone. Ludo story for you. There's editors gimmick of hanging on things that like climbing really paul scaffolding or hanging onto a lighting trust and it being lifted up into the air to fatally high altitude really real talk. That she's not funny. No do you have any idea that kind of trouble other people would be in if that asshole died doing that. Not only that but like falling from that height and having people catch you can really hurt people very badly falling thirty feet or twenty even ten feet. Just ten feet to into people's arms could easily really really hurt people. Chris from nevada catching his base with his face on the awards. Show that but an eighty vetter. Yeah it's it's much heavier than a bass guitar. We're talking like seriously fucking up. Anyone he lands on probably hurting himself very badly if not killing himself and getting a ton of people in very serious trouble like maybe prison time trouble. This is something. We don't talk a lot about in. This show is i worked in the music business for twenty years. I have so many stories of band guys jumping off the stage a regular stage not going up to the balcony of the reimann in fucking jumping off. I'm talking literally the stage into the crowd and hurting people badly like with their guitars with their heads. I had to pay girls hospital visit one time. Because he's fucking sky band decided it would be funny to jump off the stage with his fucking clarinet or whatever. They play in like boston or face. I was like it was the singer of the bank. And i was like dude. What are you doing. It costs me money because he wanted to jump off the stage and be fucking cool. Biggio your eddie vedder a and be. It sucks when any vendor does it. It does suck i. I know for a fact. You can find interviews where dave grohl talks about how terrified he was every time. Eddie did this i would. I would be shocked if at some point. They didn't pay someone hospital. Bill what does it feel like when kurt cobaine singles your band out and cause you sell out. That's what i want to know. It's got to be florida's pretty painful of all people. Kurt cobain telling someone else. They sold out just a personally addressed. Fuck you yeah. From the jesus of grunge basically like the guy who kids would have died for it. It's one of those things. Sorry i it's one of those things that really wish. That hurt was still around. Because i would. If nothing else would love to have seen a a grudge. A grunge grunge man grudge match between kurt and on eddie at some point although our luck what really would have happened is eventually. They both one of them. Wanna run out of money at some point and they would have started another supergroup. I don't know well maybe because pearl. Jam did so. Here's the thing about pearl jam. They are without a doubt the most commercially successful of the seattle bands from this period. However none of these bands would have hit the map like they did. If it wasn't for nevada and never mind sharp ten wasn't doing shit until never mind blew up then had already been released like way before never mind came out and it didn't do anything never mind. Blew up and the same thing that happened with that. Hunger strike song and the band soundgarden. Bad motor finger came out on the same day as never mind but it was soundgarden third album because nobody was giving a shit about this until never mind went number one four months after being released it was only after that ten finally hit the top ten on the charts because nirvana blew up and dj started reaching for whatever else they had in. The studio from seattle nirvana was so huge. It was like a gravitational force for everything else. You know what i mean. So this is so massive. All everyone is doing is going. What else even remotely and they've already got this sitting right there that they haven't been playing because no one's been requested. We have this album that we haven't touched for fucking year. Let's play that that. That sounds good. These are verifiable facts. We are stating these are not opinions. This is fucking documented. History pearl jam's first single was alive came out in july of nineteen ninety one and it peaked on the charts in february of one thousand nine hundred ninety two okay and that's because never mind had already started selling over a quarter of a million copies a week. A week week huge. Jesus says so huge and as we said in the nevada episode they were basically just the seattle ban that broke through i. If it wasn't then it probably would have been housed chains or soundgarden in one of those three bands would have set the stage for the most radio friendly of the seattle bands pearl jam. Yeah that's the thing about pearl jam to versus nirvana or any of those other bands. They could be. They put out songs that could be played on top forty radio. That's why we say they're not a grunge. They did not make grunge music. They made stadium. Ready arena rock ballads. It was literally played on top. Forty radio guys. The journey of seattle. It's true it's an insult to journey though because journey was a much better ban than pearl jam. Not even close. I'm convinced that people who are fans of pearl jam are just people who wanna be a fan of something where there's this much stuff to process over there so many album. It's the same reason people get into the grateful dead. There's just so much content there and this theory should resonate to everyone coming out of the pandemic. Like how many days did you spend wishing that your favourite tv show had like ten more seasons to it unless your favorite tv show is a show that you like for these very same reasons. Which is that. There's so much content to obsess over doctor. Who were this is a thing that you probably like. Just because of how much there is of it. There's so much content. Those are just the albums and then going back to what you said earlier about how this ban doesn't use the same settlers every night and you are jam ban another way you know. They're jam band and the most corporate version of a jam band is the official bootleg series. I already knew what you were going to say. Don't even leave it to the fans to just so grateful dead. Says we don't care if you all record a show for it. And then he just let it happen. That's a free economy happening in their fan base. Pearl jam's like we're going to sell all that shit. yeah yeah. yeah yeah. That's the thing that's the thing that's actually sold the bootleg. They've found a way to make money on something that no other band dude so to go back to the band that you referenced earlier. The reason why dave matthews got so huge in the beginning the band took off was the encourage their fans to record and then give it to other people but the thing is is they didn't make money off it. They just said yeah. You should record this and give it to people. Jam said yeah. We're going to record this and then sell at media so great man it's such. It's such a great move from aban who before this manage to position themselves as being so anti capitalist exploitation et cetera. Yes they're they're very open war with ticketmaster for being an exploitive Greedy business which is a little weird when you think of the fact that pearl jam mirrored so many of these businesses in their their content. Like let's think if they were. The program was putting out that time when people bought records boatloads of records. They sold millions of copies of their albums. Yeah mark those things up. It wasn't like it is now where you have to tour to make money and you have to do all these other creative ways to make money. They were touring making money. There were selling merchant making money. They're selling album paid so many revenue streams but then at the same time invented a new one. Yes at the same time you know. Putting themselves on a cross and being like ticketmaster is so evil because they charge fees. no. I'm not defending ticketmaster. Fuck master but i do think it is a little weird that they would take hard line. You know this is exploitive. Stance all the while record their own shows and then sell it back to the people that already bought tickets to the show you you bought a ticket to the show and then you got to buy the recording of this show. It goes further than that. I have a story that. I don't think i've told on this podcast before but i should while we're talking about these chiampou legs. I was at wisconsin or minnesota somewhere very northern because this is the first time i saw the northern lights. Just some roadhouse bar in the middle of fucking nowhere and this was after a show so we were out at the bar and we told the person who drove us to the bar that they could take off because there were some other people who'd been at the show who came up to us in the bar and offered to give us a ride back to the hotel later. Someone was because if you hang out here the northern lights are probably going to happen so we went out back at this place and saw the northern lights and it was great. I don't know if you've ever seen them. Having very cool. It was like this weird form of magnetism it looks like a wave of light going across the sky and something about it just makes you walk in. That direction is really cool. Witchcraft vibe. Where it's just like what's telling us to walk that direction. You can just see how people would just pick up and start walking before lecturer whatever anyways go inside and this dude who's offered to give us a right back to the hotel does and when we all pile in his car he's like there's a cd book man. You can pick whatever you want you to listen to. Am i cool. Start flipping through the cd book and it is entirely and only full of these pearl jam bootlegs remember. The cds were yellow all yellow cds. I'm just so. I can choose between pearl jam in pearl jam basically and then for the rest of this ride. I just had to listen to this. Talk about how awesome of a band pearl. Jam was no offense to that guy. I appreciate the ride back to the hotel dick about it. Sure at the time. Yeah and honestly. I haven't been to dig about it now. Other than to say people didn't only by the bootlegs of the show the whole thing collect them so you're talking about a ban finding a way to shop their product which is during an album Shop their product around the country and then get paid as if they had made a new album every time they play a concert. Yeah like that is exponential money-making and exploitation like i don't mean exploitation in a sense of people exploiting other people i mean exploiting in the marketing term that is exploiting a product to a degree that no other band right. It is a little weird to shit on ticketmaster for adding in. This was at the time. I don't think the fees were really that crazy. Compared to now. I think the fees were maybe like five or ten bucks now. Those fees would be like thirty or something completely insane because now everyone wants a piece of the money. That's the thing about ticket. Masters reality about ticketmaster is they. Just take the heat for the fact that when you buy one hundred dollar ticket and they charge you a thirty dollar service fee actually. A percentage of that more than likely almost always is going to the band the band and the band just doesn't wanna look the bad guy to charge one hundred. Ten dollars per ticket are getting paid. You know what i mean. It's such a booking scam but you know shitting on ticketmaster trying to make money. Which again i don't. I'm not defending ticket. Masters behavior at all but at the same time now if the band gave out like part of the part of the ticket experience was you got a recording of the show. That's sick and then they sold it to people that didn't go to the show. Okay fine but to sell it back to the people that actually paid money to even see you play an bought a t shirt. Or whatever i mean it just it feels like a little on the greedy exploitative side of it you know what i mean if you big picture what take him asser. Doing and what program is doing with these bootlegs. You could look at the fees that ticketmaster charges as like a fun tax or like attacks on you want to be at this band's concert seeing here this band concert when it happens in your area. It's a tax on that. Sure and these bootlegs are away for a pearl jam to make money on the same thing but it's even further than that. It's not every time pearl. Jam comes to your city. It's every time program comes to any city. Here's a way for us to make money on from people who aren't even in that city. i mean it is diabolical. Really this is some superman villain level band. Shit is to be able to position yourself. The anti-capitalism whatever. I don't even understand. Really what their argument against ticketmaster was. I don't know that it was ever articulated other than just some vague. Like anti-corporate thing and i really really want to know if there's some crazy as origin story to this like catering really sucked one day and eddie vedder. Couldn't handle it. He was trying to get to the fucking bottom of it and eventually someone was like. I don't know man take it master. They were off more than likely ticketmaster. What tim the thing is again. Ticketmaster is there to be the bad guy in the music business. That's how their whole business model set up but like it would have been so easy ticketmaster to make a point in just say you know if you wanna talk about practices that maybe a slightly questionable. Maybe you should talk to pearl jam about them. Selling the show back to the people that already show a surprise pearl. Jam never hired a photographer to take pictures of their fans entering and then sell them the pictures when they left. The concert like happens on cruise ships. Well i'm going to assume also was that when they started doing that they also had the fan stop recording their shows because they wanted to be in control of the selling and the distribution of their shows so more than likely. I don't know for sure but more than likely they started discouraging fans from according the shows because they wanted to make the money on selling the bootlegs. Now there's a reason why you don't see that very commonly nowadays is probably because most people realized how kind of shady that is because you don't really hear stories right now banned didn't start doing no. It was not a thing that ban started doing at all. They sold the live. Dvd maybe of the tour but that was like a one thing wasn't like a a live show recording of every night of the tour so we have new t shirts. But i just realized can we say how. How specifically can we describe the designs of our new shirts. We have shirts that roundabout lee. My kind of make you think of a certain ninety s run rock band and or a another famous rock band from the across. The pond rhymes with the bowling bone willing bone. Yeah schmor- schmor- von come on rounder. Why fbs dot com merch door by a t-shirt by a flag by opin bias. Thicker listening to multiple pearl jam. Live recordings us guys bad. Is this guy enunciates on record in the studio. It is so much worse. Live east just up there caterwauling. I mean i would really love to know what everyone thinks. Eddie better is actually saying in most of these songs can anyone claim to be able to understand him throughout an entire pearl jam song. No it's not even possible. They how many people do you think are out there. Who have any clue that. The song alive is about incest. None very very few right because the parts of the song that get into that are unintelligible. Are jeremy and alive. The same song played at different speeds. By the way they are virtually identical are they. They sound the same. I mean it's i guess it's great when pearl jam and arctic monkeys right the same song twice but if nickelback does it then everyone gets upset about it and has like invent algorithms to analyze it. And she's true yeah. Why isn't anybody doing the youtube video. That overlays pro jams two songs saying oh look at the same song on the same album weird or if you listen to the song. Go that from what i can understand. That song. Sounds like you're hearing a guy yell at his own dick because he's losing his erection. Go go go just like what are you doing. I mean he might as well be making chimpanzee noises on the mike and half of these songs. He sings like boom. How're from king of the hill would sing these songs. Yeah actually would love the guy that does the voice for boom howard to be in a pearl jam cover band is that not just mike. Judge is judge. Does he do all the all the boom. How're well then. Mike judge you are infinitely very popular and rich guy but you know if you're bored. Start a pearl. Jam cover band. He's probably boom hauer though he's gotta be boom hauer when he's seeing program this song yellow ledbetter which again is probably this bands. Most popular song of all time doesn't even have official lyrics. Apparently eddie ges changes them to whatever he feels like seeing at the time. So i thought it would be funny if both mark and i listened to this song in advance and without looking up. Anyone else's guesses at the lyrics. Wrote down what we thought vedder was saying that is that actually write it down. I was singing along trying to figure out the words of what i would be saying. What do you think that song is about glue. I have no idea actually legitimately listened to it twice today. And i was like fuck if i know man like i have no idea i got. I was actually thinking about how the times they probably sang. The song in my life saying in hard quotes. I have no idea what he was. It doesn't make any sense. It sounds like he did not write lyrics for this song and is just trying to make sounds in the studio and fake his way through it dude if you told me flat out one hundred percent that he was laying on the ground eating one of those like apple pies that you get from the seven eleven like just shoveling food in his mouth and singing saying words or singing words while he was laying on the back drunk or something. I would totally believe you. I'd be like yes. That's the story of yellow ledbetter. Oh you mean that song eddie. Got drunk and was laying on the floor singing eating pie. That'd be like oh. Yeah that song so i did this. I wrote down what i thought he was saying. And i will say out of the gate nonsense. I was not able to come up with coherent thoughts. Thought fit what he say. There are actual parts of the song where you can not even guess. Yeah because it doesn't even sound like he's saying consonance then. After i wrote my down. I did go and look at what most fans agree eddie singing on at least the recording of this song that gets played on the radio all the time in i was very surprised at how close i got With a lot of my guesses. I was way off on some of them but those lyrics still did he make any fucking sense at all and it is really obnoxious. How much meaning people project into these think. It means all there so many theories on what this song is it some mysterious thing and i just wanna make sure everyone understands just like it is so easy to just let people project all of this mysterious importance into something and this song is a prime example or seeing the words having no fucking clue what it's actually about. There's no way a- again even if you looked up what everyone if you crowdsource this and looked up what everyone thinks he's saying on this song. It's still doesn't make sense so even if you do know the lyrics in your singing along to them it's still nonsense. It doesn't mean i don't know what people think. They think they're singing about. I don't know but i would. I would actually love to interview like a pearl jam superfan and be like. Tell me what you think. You're hearing if i'm pearl jam superfan. Here's what i'm hearing in this song. If i don't look these lyrics up and i'm singing along to this every day here are the words that i personally would be singing. Because it's the only thing. I thought he could be saying on a ceiling on a poisoned letter. Say then you'll see it. I wanna leave it again. Once i saw on a beach salt with her. I said go in the see. I wanna leave it again on a week day on a wish it all away day man they called and i said that i'm woke and i said let them call out again in the wayside on a leaf of calm. I know i said i know when i hear it that i'll box out of the bag. Hey can you see them out on the porch and my big wave. I see them brown. The blue we'd yeah. And i know that i know i don't wanna see. And that's where he tells. Mike mccready to make him cry and does his impression of a kid trying out of mesa boogie amp at the local guitar center when mccready refers to himself as a bad imitation of stevie ray vaughan the solo in this song. Their most popular song is exactly what he is talking about. As the solo trails off eddie comes back and he says i see. I don't know that it's something else on a combine on a wave. I said. I don't know i said i don't i don't know whether there's a boxer the bag then do the course of again and then he says. I don't wanna stay a bunch on the altro now. If you go look up the real lyrics that people think he's saying i'm pretty close and none of this makes any sense. I mean very well could be exactly what he was saying. I would have no fucking clue. That's the thing because when you're even when you're reading it like that i'm actually sitting in my head and i'm like oh yeah i mean to actually could be that many people that are huge pearl jam fans or even just huge fans of this song have applied some deeply deep emotional meaning to it and would absolutely be shaken to the core to realize because not everyone that loves the l. Lebanon realizes that it is just nonsense. A lot of people love that song in. don't even know. Oh yeah it's just gibberish. Like is that is that that's gotta be somewhat difficult people here. I think this. I think the formula for a pearl jam song is hit enough phrases and words that are recognizable to convey some sort of theme or vibe or mood to the song and then have entire segments of the song they are literally unintelligible. Listeners cannot understand the words you're saying if in fact there are any actual words. He is saying there then forced to project their own. Meaning into this song. It's sort of like putting a little rohrschack test into a song like really definitely. That's actually done a music. We should do an episode on sigur ros because they i mean he literally just says oh yes. I made up words but people like people and like cry. If you go to a concert you'll see people singing along to what this guy says are nonsense syllable. How many people before the he did this interview where he tells them. Oh it's b. s. We're thinking this is some icelandic language of which he saying something deep and meaningful and really. They're just singing words that don't exist. Yeah that's that's so much of music. It's so much of what you love is just you applying what you think. The song is about the song black. I would say about half the lyrics to that song or intelligible. He gives you enough to let you know that this is a song about a woman. He had really good sex with and you can also make out some shit about the horizon and the earth and the sun. So you know. Eddie vedder gets pretty deep about sex isn't just a meaningless sex to him and then the music shifts to sad while he starts seeing all this weird shit about like bidder. Hands cradling broken glass. But you can't really understand the rest of what he's saying but he's pretty upset about it and this is when everyone starts crying super common. I know a bunch of people that are going to listen to this. Actually know someone. It's going to be super bummed. That were worship talking black. But it's a shit song. I'm sorry but i'm not sorry shit song in my opinion pearl jam. Songs are just a temper tantrum that the band and their audience is all having together. Most pearl jam songs are built around this major freak out section. Where eddie vedder is going to have this freak out and the song and once you learn the song and you recognize where the little freak out parts going to be then you can go along with him on the ride Like if you were lost in the desert and you stumbled upon a pearl jam concert out in the middle of the desert you would be so sure you are witnessing some massive primal scream therapy session and it would not read as like entertainer audience. There would be like. Oh these people are having some feelings about something right now. What are your favorite. What's your favorite lyrics from black. This black dreams wide and he just went back and forth giving himself some sort of concussion. All time do this. Is the thing about songs like this that you love the song that you heard on the radio and you're like oh god this is so good i love this but i have no fucking clue what he's saying so you you'd buy the tape the cd and then you would open it and hope to god that the lyrics were in there because you were like if the lyrics aren't listed out then i have no clue what they're saying that that was the experience of the entire experience of listening to any pearl jam song if you did not read the lyrics to black more than likely you had no clue what the fuck was saying or what he was talking about at all. It's definitely about what i like. You he gives you enough to know about this failed relationship. basically he. the one of the park you understand is him saying like i know someday will have a beautiful life. But why can't it be with me or whatever it is. It's just some like phil collins. I got left by a woman who i really really liked a lot. Stuff like emo into mo- was going to say prima promo again. What's hilarious about this with pearl. Jam is it means this is what they saw when they looked at grunge like pearl. Jam looked at grunge. Oh is this what people are doing. We're pearl jam like what happened. There idea like they think that nirvana soundgarden and chains are this and another thing. I love about the whole grunge era of music this whole anti-corporate. Fuck the man. We dress this way all that shit. Every bands bio had to prove they weren't aborted rich kids by including whether or not the band members ever held down a day job. Part of eddie veterans backstory. Is that this guy. Wants had a job working in a gas station in the one thousand nine hundred eighty s. And so what i mean. As far as i know there isn't anywhere else. You can work if your entire resume is just surfer. I was gonna say is being a beach. Bum give something basically when you're watching an eighties lifetime movie made for unhappy housewives or cinemax softcore made for unhappy dad's win a hot lady inexplicably starts banging this weirdly. Nice and spiritually centered surfer dude. Who works in a gas station and that surfer dude is in a band. That band is pearl jam. Because that guy is eddie vetter. Yeah which is. I'm assuming what the people writing these movies always wanted to be. Yes like looked up to. I think eddie. Watch the movies. I though there you go. Maybe he modeled after the movie i do. It was which came first. I see the movies came. First and then eddie was like oh. I'm gonna be the beach bum. Gas station attendant that gets laid by the soccer. Moms the come in to get candy for their kids. I think eddie vedder saw these movies and did this on purpose. Did you know that everyone who knows eddie vedder in his personal life. They call him. Ed how famous people they always have a different name that everyone who personally knows them uses instead of ed yet. Ed does that guy. Look like an ed to you. Know okay but now imagine eddie vedder in the role of the nice gas station surfer guy who bangs the way out of his league lady and she calls him ed in the movie you totally by. Oh definitely dead characters name. Is ed like when the lady tells her butler. Oh by the way. If ed calls he's supposed to fuck me later you buy. It was he was he in singles. He was in singles right. He was in the their music was either music was but i can't remember. He was never press play on that. Because i thought why. I've never seen that movie. It's it's a fantastic movie that you're missing out on yet. I can't imagine you'd never seen it. It's so good. I bet it's not good. I bet it's one of those movies. Where when us i mean. It's never come up because no one ever asked me about it. 'cause i get the impression it's not a good movie. That's why no one ever talks. It's a it's a movie that people revisit because they realize that that time was the best time of their life and they hate their lives now so they have to watch a movie to reminisce about the good times of their lives. People don't watch that in hate it like garden state. No they hate their lives and they watched that to feel good about a time of their life. Which was Grunge in seattle or something being single. So i do think this episode is going to piss off a lot of ladies. I believe that pearl. Jam has an aggressively high rate of women and their audience. This is the the does that better man just in case anyone wants to disagree with me. I'm pretty sure every divorced woman over the age of forty has rub one out to that song while crying weight to and she lies and says she's in love with him. It's got to stop what's gotta stop. It's like not getting fucked good enough. I think it has to stop just like banging away. And she's like it's four o'clock it's gotta stop allies and says she's in love with him can't be using with him real talk. Every woman on the planet can relate to that song a believe. This song is about his stepdad betterman. Uk than hated his stepdad. And he wanted his mom to be with a better man than i have a question. How many of these songs are not about his step-dad or them not about his stepdad. I don't know how many people are somebody that they were attracted to come over to their house and accidentally put on parole jam in ruined their. You know what i mean like you. You should be putting on like marvin gaye albums in. You're like oh throw on the new pearl jam album and next thing you know whoever you're trying to have an entertaining evening with decides to leave because it's depressin