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New GM Mike Mayock leading the charge

Vegas Nation - Raiders Football

23:39 min | 1 year ago

New GM Mike Mayock leading the charge

"And today's a really exciting day for me personally I think our players will be charged by this. I think the ex players future players are going to really be excited about this acquisition as well but boards I've seen path to the draft I've watched him on it he's a meticulous very analytical person and so when it comes to the front office did around the NFL I spoke to John Gale Jeremiah this week a couple of days after the raiders officially hired Mike Mayock just vote we'll just continue on with happy New Year for the readers they have a lot to smile about bringing on a new GM Mike mayock this is a big signing for them a former NFL network analyst who come into the team with actually zero front office experience but he's been quite the guru when it comes to breaking down draft your fans can hold onto as that the team will get three first round picks in the twenty nine thousand nine NFL draft and to lead them in deciphering this draft board will be our newly appointed general manager for the raiders. Mike mayock Michael Galkina is our insider on the scene in Oakland Michael First of all I'm your host Heidi Fang joined as always with our review journal Raiders beat writer Michael Gilpin the season is over the raiders fell to Kansas City ends a city a devastating loss to in the season on thirty five to three many questions remain for this team as of right now but the only certainty that John Lynch went from NFL player and broadcaster to General Manager Mike Mayock who wasn't nfl player briefly isn't just making this year for the raiders this is a big addition in finally submitting somebody in that role but there's also news this week Michael That and more front office and it's not a unique track in terms of look at Matt Millen when from NFL Player and broadcaster to general manager going to sign anybody there do you think soon I think they would have to but let's just first of all break down the signing of Mike mayock would it means that the team and who he today it's also today happy holidays all holidays are definitively over like that's not even a gray area so for Raider always raider and and there's nobody I'd rather go to go to war with Jon Gruden the mark Dave's happy New Year Raider fans welcome to the Vegas Nation podcasts news they've let their director of player Personnel Personnel Joey clink sales go so I guess as a second we have the same problem I do that most of the time the into as much as I see somebody if it had been the first time that I've seen them in the new year will greet them with happy New Year so be New Year how you doing happy New Year I don't know when it becomes time like I say happy New Year but tendencies like tell people happy new year way too long he's like to work with him and his impressions of him and I'm that's certainly one thing that he highlighted was just how prepared he is to make the jump from regularly go rarely over two hours long and you just the inches one of those valuable analysts for reporters and respect I should be like mid January maybe even into late January I'm so happy New Year but yes happy New Year to you I'm glad that you and I is and what he brings to the raiders yeah we'll Mike Mayock is somebody who's extremely well-versed as it relates to player evaluation he after that in Jeremiah spoke of all of this but the three hundred plus prospects that he would evaluate every year attending pro days and office Mike Mayock has done his homework he's been entrenched when it comes to personnel will he have something of a learning curve of course it's only natural given that he hasn't the jump from broadcast or general manager of the way that those two did his jump is I would say more of a up when you consider on Caster to front office you mentioned he has yet to have an NFL for his job for this past Monday ever handle the day to day operations that general manager must you know looking at the waiver wire and filling out a practice squad and working more with agents and just it's kind of a general manager on TV when it comes to breaking down thirty two teams and what their needs are and perspective fits the old conference halls reporters I go organizations and just speaking to speaking like a scout when when in each of those buildings this isn't your typical switch from the broadcast booth to the front the All Star game the senior bowl and going into the combine every year and just speaking of different evaluators around the League as broadcaster and going all thirty two mayo has a list of guys that he'd want brain in I will see how soon in addition is made typically you don't see a ton of purse player to replace Joey cling skills will help mayock certainly to just navigate his first season as as the raiders general manager and I personnel department moves until after the draft but given that the raiders were ready to move on from Joe klink scales on if I remember what I read correctly you had mark Davis saying he wasn't giving up everybody that they interviewed in case they wanted to bring them on a bit leader and keep those names three hundred plus names over the course of each year and breaking them down he's worked as a analyst to to give his own mock draft if you offensive ends aside from Nick Bosa who I imagine will be gone at the fourth pick there's a lot of defensive tackles available there's offensive linemen and for years so if if you look at what is on the board there's a lot of guys I don't know who they might go with first but there's a lot of guys available as Wednesday that would I would say would be an indicator that there's a chance Mike May or may already have his guy in mind but what to see if the move is made and did the past several years he's worked to watch a lot of pro film so maybe that will help but avenue strong number two guy once he identifies one expect the raiders to do something that would address their need to get after the quarterback far better than they did in two thousand eighteen the raiders had eh Mike mayock understands that this largely is a passing league and the raiders would need to get better himself so maybe it's one of those people who you know we aren't sure who that person will be yet but when the raiders have to look at this draft board New Year of early January I would say you would look for Mike May off Jon Gruden who obviously is highly influential in the raiders do for whereas all the rules have to go through the process. I saw that somebody had asked you did the raiders used the Rooney rule in this interview process and of course they said that they had but then one multi sack game all season it's the first time that's ever been done in NFL history certainly over sixteen game campaign and so they gotta do Vic even if you have your draft board things can come up that can adjust where player stands on it be medical or other probably a little bit later down in the first round you have some wide receivers so where would you think the raiders would I start to look would it be the and the good thing for the raiders they'll be able to look at these prospects themselves Gruden will get to take his whole coaching staff along to the Senior Bowl Michael You reported on this this week how huge is that the raiders have this opportunity and just to get this early glimpse different aspects that come with their can't come with being a general manager and so Elliott may may out naturally will do more with comes to pro player personnel but he said you and hoping that it would come to fruition when the cardinals fires are head coach and the jets fired their head coach it became assured that the raiders and he was relishing the chance to do so again either this calling the senior bowl executive director you know asking would be invited to coach the senior bowl in Mobile Alabama a game in January six but really the weekly up is arguably more important because of the chance to have meetings of different players and run your own drills at their own coaches with these players and just get your hands on him so it's not the you know the protecting the quarterback and they also need to get better at gain after the quarterback and I think if you were to choose one of those two in the first round in the top five you win experience at the NFL Scouting Combine Indianapolis each year early March late February where you in your staff are in a hotel room and set that some of the players Oh it's incredibly valuable it's an opportunity that Jon Gruden has had three times before he's coached team at the senior bowl addresses will it be in the interior will it be somebody out on offense a preface early to get into the raiders might be taking the number four overall allot free agency draft I'm to address this and so I would if you were gonNA lean one way or another here in the happy the first few waves of agency of past while but probably a better sense as to what roster holes are most glaring that being wise and then there is just the nature of how NFL offseason works which is removes you make in Free Agency can really my may hawk is going to be just a great asset to have they have three picks again in the two thousand nine hundred ninety nfl draft and when you say like you have strong influence in terms of the direction that you go come the draft and for agency doesn't begin until March thirteenth so I would say around the time maybe March twentieth elites and at times more importantly off the field and so just as important as saying oh I really liked this guy after we get to senior bowl is important Dan one evening there's just a bunch of different player interviews that you invite you guys into your hotel room one by one for about fifteen with the chiefs they stopped him on fourth down so that was a huge Stop made by Colton Miller yet Derek Carr even though he lost his interception Louis St personnel standpoint to do something to get after the quarterback and probably edge rusher or even interior rusher by thing that they can edge rusher they'll be very happy with that it's piece you are able to ask them whatever you want to ask them you're able to show certain plays on their game film from their college tape and and go the loss in Kansas City you bring up Carlson and he had the one lone score the entire game there it was a very long field goal so he Colton Miller who prevented what could have been a pick six he chased downfield making a huge stop and then they had the Stop there on downs somebody that I think is definitely part of the new foundation of these raiders as they come under the GRUDEN era you look at the bright spots of the game eighteen hundred fifty career completions and his fifth year under center that surpasses Peyton Manning for the most all time through the first five years he finished the season Britt season of any ticker in raiders franchise history so I just a small taste of what the senior Bowl Cambrian in terms of impact players and as we revisit plus four thousand yards that's another milestone I mean you get the feeling that this team has parts in place it can build around you obviously you bring up the offensive line eating think there in Kansas City he was stopped at three hundred and thirty two completions before having this interception thrown but he did notch seven Sabino expressing the interest of hoping to do hoping to account outweigh might may off Jon Gruden you know before math officially was announced being hired that you were talking about it the value say yeah we really don't like that guy let's get them off of our board and so just that it cuts both ways but the access and the ability to that with these guys as mental makeup is extremely valuable in raiders are eager to coach at the senior bowl you look at the two thousand eighteen draft class Johnny Townsend they can definitely build around when you think about the GRUDEN era and who will stay under this regime there's definitely going to be moving parts but who do you I think will help to build this foundation as you take away from the season and look at some of the players well I think there are some pieces in place seventeen when he stores. ACL ended up missing the entirety of his second NFL season. I'm just totally threw him off a critical in their development they're going to have that time and so I think he looked at some of the kind of the glimpses the hopeful Russell Eight men third round Pick Brennan Parker all future raiders who were at featured wears draft picks who are at the senior bowl and then a future raider who they didn't draft flashes of Arden key getting pressure on the quarterback not quite able to close the gap you know quarterback seemingly each week able to slip out of his grasp your rookie experience to build off of in terms of notes snowing which part of your game you need to really focus on fortunately the raiders in a very crude over but really in the fifteen minutes very scripted clair's trained on term what to say what not to say and so the chance to actually sit down and play on the fee the raiders would have been it would be understandable some the raiders organization were holding over F you know final half of December and I in terms of making what many in the NFL believe is the biggest developmental jump in a player's career from her rookie year to your second year you're not training for looks like you can expect Darryl Worley to be tendered as a restricted free agent do not look for Rashawn Melvin to be back that partnership just was not fit for a number of crucial offseason where guys Argentina get stronger Colt Miller music is stronger can go down the list of guys just need to have a nice next few months to keep car upright there's obviously the edge rusher issue and I think the the they do have pieces they have pj hall they have people that a step and you know he'll he'll be diving just missing a sack and sack numbers weren't what he would want them to be as a rookie but the fact that he came so close so part because you saw Apu Eddie Vander does the teams two thousand seventeen third round pick and a final quarter of the final game on the final day of two thousand up all the different moving pieces and parts and another moving piece of this raiders puzzle is where are they going to play in twenty nineteen we did touch on this a bit in London there's been some talk about them playing in San Francisco how closer any of these rumors to coming to fruition and what's been the buzz in our last episode there's been some speculation though Michael you touched on on Sunday in Vegas nation and the recap after the game the possibility that could frame parker in the third round if nothing just kind of go down the list of Maurice I in the fifth there are guys all guys who ended the teast and health last month but there's no guarantee that it was but let's just say the raiders are going to go somewhere else initially and maybe this remains true still raiders uh-huh I think you probably start at the draft class and what the raiders were able to get their key thing is you look at Colt Miller in the first round. Pj Hall in the Second Arden Key sends mainly technique that they are asking do he wasn't comfortable doing on trying to do it so that's kind of a a overview of an answer yes Daniel Carlson as a kicker is among those pieces of the raiders feel confident moving forward with him in the future that's great for the team as they look to rebuild and and is a great indicator that he'll get there with time with development with increased strength and so this offseason is huge and we'll have a better even when they are not expressing their thoughts so to be able to handicapped it is not something that I comfortable dealing as I do is about where they may play in twenty nineteen while the raiders are extremely tight lipped on this topic and so it's very difficult to know what they're thinking really liked the idea of being close to their Alameda California headquarters if they

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Mike Mayock comments on Raiders need for WRs, Mock Draft Continued

Vegas Nation - Raiders Football

34:28 min | 7 months ago

Mike Mayock comments on Raiders need for WRs, Mock Draft Continued

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That's where we will also be doing live shows so you'll WanNa follow those on your view channel fourteen with Cox and check back every afternoon here wherever you are listening for new shows. It's heightened thing today with Ed Grainy Adam Hill and Vinnie bonsignore and we have to first of all acknowledge what we just heard there in the opening of the show. That was Mike Mayock and seeing the kids. Pretty Interesting That he said yesterday on the conference call that he's like one hundred years old. Ed Kinda echoed a little bit some of the things. You're saying there about how he doesn't know what the screen share or how he's going to do this but he said he's old school guy he's GonNa get things together. He's GonNa figure this out the more reps he puts in the better. So what did we make about Mike mayock and his concerns with the NFL draft? And how is going to go down because I know both the you were on the call yesterday and heard everything. May alcott to say ED. What were your thoughts on this? I hope it's not concerns. I hope we stay on the truth. And we see thirty whiteboards That'd be Kinda cool You know I mean this. It's GonNa be guided guy and you know there's GonNa be some with a better grasp of how to do virtually and I think we're all I'm waiting for the WHITEBOARDS. I wanted to be a little chaotic So we can have some stuff to be amused by but I also want. It guys running into homes trying to hook up a computers. These just eat a guy who probably has a lot of a lot of experience with this Dhabi's Film Guy. They sit rooms and watch film. So now you're asking him to be a little more technical He'll be. I think it'll be fine. I think they'll do dry runs. They'll do they'll do practicing. They're still going to be. I think hiccups in this thing. I don't think it's possible to go through the draft without it but I want to see a shot of his I was living room. I WanNa see all those whiteboards. That'd be great. You know you're not gonNA see it you're not gonNA see because he doesn't want to give away any secrets so whatever find that out but al. It's fascinating that he made some good points about wanting the equipment installed as soon as possible. You know we're only a week out at this point and he wants to practice with these things too so he's ready on draft night. And if you if you think about it he made some some really good points like okay. You're going to be able to zoom with your you. Know it's him and Gruden and some of the scouts and the front office people can all be in zoom call. They could be communicating. And I don't think that's going to be a problem and I definitely don't think it's going to be a problem. You know transmitting your pick to the league. You can email in or texted her however you want to get it over to Goodell So so those things are going to be no problem. I don't think internal communications or communications with league will really be an issue by a couple of hiccups but nothing major the bigger concern and he kind of brought it up was okay. If you're on a trade a lot of times you're in that war room you're talking to one team maybe Gruden or maybe your assistant. Gm or you know one of the other guys is talking to another team. And you might be trying to work out like a tray between three or four teams in your all communicating with each other while your committee go Communicating with the outside world. Will now those things are going to be a real issue? Because you're not together. You're not in the same room. You can't have those communications. It's GonNa take a lot longer. Those are the things that could be an issue and I think he brought up some good points there. When when if GRUDEN's kids on the other line doing like strength conditioning Plans for the team and like this is like there's like four people on the line once. I'll tell you one thing. If Mike may offer has been doing a lot of zooms. He's farther along than I am. In Zoom because I have no clue about that thing. You know no no chance. I downloaded that five times. I know I got. I got completely mad you that they were. Heidi had this facetime on that thing on the tasked with me in the Zoom Mar frustration. And is there. There's way too many of these so like I have one chat with a bunch of friends on zoom. One is on House party which I love. How far is phenomenal APP And then you've got the G. Chat where you can jump in with a video chatting somewhere. Other friends are on that and now I had a family Easter call on something called a webex which I don't even know what that was like. There's way too many of these things that's the problem here. I'll stay with facetime. Okay Fair enough something else. I wanted to comment on here. That Mike Mayock did mention in. The opening of his call was that he is going to do a matching donation thing with all the draft. Picks that the raiders do they're going to donate upwards of seven thousand dollars here to the Clark County delivering with dignity to program. The raiders have really stepped up in their contributions. Here in Las Vegas elegant gold. Josh Jacobs Foster Moreau Hunter Renfro. Who were also going to hear from later in the show. They've all partnered with three square. So everybody's you're donating three squares like a food bank. They give out food and meals and they prep all these boxes for family. So it's really great stuff that the raiders are doing well in advance of the draft with everything that they are doing for donations to Clark County in Las Vegas so One other thing I wanted to get in here with Mike Mayo call from Vinnie on this is about the linebackers he had asked. Mike. Mayock yesterday. about that position how they're planning to fill it in. He had some interesting things to say about quick okay. They're citing from the bears that he will be there. Green Dot Guy Vinnie. What do you have for us on that? Green Dot That that you know Mike Mac is talking about That represents the guy that is going to call your defense Your designated to have that your piece in his helmet so that the coaching staff because coordinator communicate with them You know up until I think it's like fifteen seconds before the place aren't so it's GonNa be. It's GONNA be his role To communicate with the defensive coordinator and then relay all that to the rest of the team is really an important You know Aspect of your defense because you need a Guy. That's going to be able to understand the verbiage but then communicated in a in a clear concise way up to teammates get guys lined up correctly. Get them in the sand formation. Just get everybody on the right page and That was sorely missing last year They had to kind of make do out. They had one guy that they could really truly rely on at a high level Fish of efficiency. But but Nick Rakowski is the guy that they are. They're gonNA designate as defensive leader With with the green dot as far as nineteen A gambling back free agency at the. The raiders really did create flexibility for themselves appreciate apply. We have five or six guys of. They feel comfortable taking with that. Nineteen depending on how the draft unfolds in front of them and if there's multiple guys there at Nineteen Bay like and you might give them confidence to maybe drop back a little bit and maybe pick up a second round. Pick as a result. They don't have a second round. Pick right now. It goes to I in three third round. Pick so If they feel comfortable that because of bringing in starters that we talked about linebacker and safety in defensive tackle another good pass rusher coming off the bench. A you can be a little bit more flexible. More confident dropping. Back picking a guy that he's still feel comfortable with also adding a second round pick but when you start thinking of nineteenth thick wherever it might end up or take them. You're talking about Patrick. Queen linebacker from lsu Can Bari Linebacker from from Oklahoma Xavier. Mckinney safety from Alabama You know Trayvon digs the quarterback from from From from Alabama so mentioning a lot of defensive positions. I do think that's the direction that they're gonNA go Aj Terrell of quarterback from Clemson. They still need. I think to to to add some more pieces defensively and I think with that. Nineteen or if it trade back. I think those guys in those are the positions that they're going to be focused on all right. Thanks Vinnie so what the other position Mike. Mayock had discussed was wide receivers in the twenty twenty draft. And how they're going to approach that. Here's Mike Mayock on the glaring. Need an hold that the raiders have here at wide receiver. A bunch of guys at the top end of the draft that are considered first round. They're going to be guys in the fourth round that typically would go in the third round or early so there's quality the top there that throughout. There's no secret that we need to get better wide out. We understand that We really like adding Nelson N. Goulart But we still need to get better wide out and again. It's kind of like the corner conversation. I think you gotTa let it come a little bit. And whether it's in the first round chat around third down fifth round I'm hoping we can kind of wide out. What the what. The raiders need and their culture. So when you hear Mike. May Talk about that needed. Something obvious. We all know that. That's a position but we've been talking all over the twelve spy. Will IT BE JERRY? Will it be lamb? Will it be rugs? Will who will be there for the raiders? But I think Mike Mayock when he looked at over he he was throwing up a lot of smoke. It kinda say you. He didn't really evaluate just one of the guys there. There's a bill take whoever best available is so that would lead me to believe that even if like we talked about yesterday even if maybe there's a wide receiver there that they weren't anticipating getting because maybe the others are gone. Maybe let's say lamb rugs Jerry. They're all God's maybe he's looking at like you were talking about yesterday. Jefferson do you. Think the Raiders. At twelve spot again would look just to fill that need right away or would they wait off on getting a wide receiver because there are so many that they could wait in the position to get somebody good at nineteen if the guy that they want isn't available at twelve. How do they play that out you? I mean I think if you listen to Mike my first of all everybody knows they have a glare need a wide receiver. But it's it's surprising to hear a co Gm say that because usually they're very close to the vast especially mayock. But I think that tells you exactly. How glaring that need is that he's willing to say. Hey listen. Everybody knows that we need a wide receiver. And I think when you play out the draft and I've done so many mock drafts nowadays participating with Groups that are running them and doing my own and it plays out a couple of different ways. There's there's times when Jerry Judy and CDC dilemma both there and there's times when they're both gone so I think it depends where they fall one of the one of the things that really stood out about what Mike Max had. Yesterday was the biggest thing he learned last year. was the biggest mistake teams make is reaching and then the other thing that he learned was the patient. Because you WanNa you know throw away all these assets to try to move out because you like one guy but it's better to try to wait and find your spot to get three or four really good guys instead of mortgaging a whole lot to get that one. So he's learned those lessons but he he's basically saying he wouldn't for a guy who does take the best available guy at that spot and so if if you get there and all of a sudden the best available guy is CJ Henderson To play corner and that is also a need. Maybe don't take you know a third or fourth wide receiver That's available because you know you think you can get a guy later. That's better in that scenario if you told me the CJ Henderson a corner at twelve and then just in Jefferson in nineteen I would I would take that. If I'm the raiders so I think it all depends how draft plays out but I don't expect him to reach for a guy that he doesn't have high in his board and As I've as I've indicated I don't think Henry Rugs is the third best receiver like a lot of people do and I thought it was kind of telling that you know he was asked yesterday. Mac was you know if one of those top three isn't there and he said well who's to say who the top three are. That is telling because you know everybody knows. There's a consensus top three. I DISAGREE WITH THAT CONSENSUS. And maybe math does too. I think they could also be total. Shade sure is. He knew everyone. He knew everyone was listening to that. He knows everyone will listen to it so I wouldn't be shocked if judy still there. If he traded up a few spots grabbed now again. We don't know because we have no idea who they're in love with. Let's say Cleveland at ten is sitting there and they still think they could get you. Know Alignment or someone they believe is best for them. When I heard that yesterday I you know I. You either believe him or he'd be just throwing that out there saying I don't even know if these guys are the top three We do need receiver help. But I'm not gonNA reach an income Thursday night you know. They swapped with Cleveland. And Take Judy again. That s going to to mean that they're in love with one of those guys but I didn't. I just didn't get anything from yesterday. That you never can believe any Cleveland's very interestingly brought that up because we are looking at nine and eleven right now. If you're if you're trying to analyze. What the raiders are going to do because at nine with Jacksonville. Eleven with the jets both are very very much in need of dynamic. Playmaking wide receivers So does one or both take receiver. We don't know that will tell a lot about. What THE RAIDERS DO BUT CLEVELAND? Now Cleveland is now our card because if they trade Beckham all of a sudden they need one of those guys and they're glaring weakness at tackle His now a two glaring weaknesses on offense needing tackle ETA wide receiver. So that can change the whole complex in that first round as well all right so Vinnie. What is your take on all of this? As far as the wide receivers Might Maxi's what a Lotta when everyone else is seeing. This is a really really deep wide receiver draft pool as he mentioned typical year. Your volume have about twelve or thirteen guys. That teams believe a could be drafted with those first three rounds. That's the wheelhouse of your of your draft. And when you're trying to pick up rather whether they're instant starters are guys that you're going to be able to start And expected contribute pretty soon in their careers But this year Will you know what he said was there could be upwards and maybe even exceed twenty guys at teams are GonNA value at As a top one two three R third round pick which is pretty unusual And was able to ask about the top three guys. Cd LAMB from alcohol. The end jury duty from Alabama Henry Rugs from Alabama of uniqueness of that in that. They're so different from one another. So it's going to be kind of a preference of what? Typical Fed fits best into into John. Gruden's system usually in that situation. You have a guy at you have guys that are similar. You're just deciding. Who's the better of those two similar skill sets but in this case you have three dynamic wires that do three almost completely different thing so but acted mentioned that you know the thing about Gruden? System is at their flexibility in being able to take talent fitted into the system rather than four-speed guys at into into roles maybe their skillset dozen necessarily fit in the perfect example. Is Darren Waller? The raiders. Didn't have that big time wide receiver when Antonio Brown You know Was no longer available to them. All went right to Derrick. Waller the best athlete offensively and they skimmed it up to put him in all kinds of positions to to be really effective downfield. Intermediate routes a short routes screen passes. So what was just a case of of Jon? Gruden saying my system but this is a talent that I have. I'M GONNA make the talent fit. You know what we're what we're doing scheme around that so But I'll tell you this you know magnetic pretty clear that there's going to be really good value in that in that second third of you in fourth round wouldn't be surprising at all kind of in hearing some rumblings about at the raiders by double dip at wide receiver in that first round later on draft. Nitty walk away with to impact players at a time position. Thanks for that Vinnie. So what will do here? We'll go ahead take our quick break here word from our sponsor and we come back. You're going to hear from Isaiah Johnson and Hunter Renfro so stay tuned right here on. The biggest nation podcast. This episode of Vegas Nation will be right back. They say a healthy gut means a healthy. You favor apple cider vinegar shots bottle. This feeling into the convenience of a two ounce shot better digestion stronger immune system and the lowering of blood. Sugar levels are all just some of the benefits to shooting daily favor shot. Their proprietary blends are a raw and organic and mixed with other functional ingredients to create a better tasting experience. First Time shooters can go to drink favored DOT COM. He's probably testing out the phone right now if he was on zoom call but he's got so many people around on that are trying to do a farm and he just. I mean he knows how it works echoes. That's kind of our our. Our video system knows that like like Back his hands so he's flipping through that but outside of that I would. I would presume that there's some Choice or flying would think. He's a lunatic savvy as much as he wanted much football as he what he got to be. A Little Tech Savvy. You gotta give them a little credit. So we'll see how he does this whole zone thing. I'm pretty got somebody to help him navigate Blah but we'll see how that goes. Welcome back to the Vegas Nation podcast. It's Heidi Bang here with any bonds in your Ed Grainy Adam Hill and those voices. You just heard we're respectively hunter. Renfro Isaiah Johnson. They were talking about Jon. Gruden trying to learn technology and advanced this draft and you can check out that content and video their way. Cassie Soto are hosts of this nation is great stuff there on the site of course biggest nation dot com where you can find all of this there with Hunter. Renfro and Isaiah Johnson in full so we were talking before we break away about what the raiders could do the trade talk if there's some shade Mike Mayo. Through their about their nineteen picket. Let's quickly just kinda breakthrough the the seventeen through thirty two picks your in the NFL draft continuing with our mock from yesterday of. I think we had assumed that. The raiders might look at Patrick. Queen was an option we had said in a Henderson could be an option. There's a couple other names that have been floating around like Jordan. Mov you know. Do they go after? Oklahoma's Linebacker Murray. Is it? Trayvon digs. I mean that might be a bit of a reach. But there's different people here at the quarterback position that could be interesting even Christian Bolton. Another Ella you guys. So when you look around the raiders at nineteen and you start to think okay. Maybe the Eagles Vikings going wide receiver. Maybe the jags were GONNA go for. Cornerbacks the cash in there as the raiders. And try to get a cornerback ahead of the jags that they might take you know we and you see above that. You think maybe cowboys are going. Defense may be. Dolphins are trying to drink the nut that offensive line. We were talking about yesterday. So you have cowboys. Dolphins Raiders Jackson Eagles Vikings those the order from seventeen to twenty two atom with that shakes out. What do you think will be in play around those positions? I think all those are possibilities in terms of going corner. Maybe if you don't get a wide receiver at twelve there's plenty of wide receivers in the mix around that nineteen area. I mean you're talking. Possibly can t higgins mij- Justin Jefferson who I think should go earlier than that but he could be available so a lot depends a lot of that nineteen pick depends on the twelfth. Pick in what they do there. I actually am now kind of focusing in on. Oh this is something that Vinnie and I've talked about. Before but Xavier mckinney is very interesting to me as a safety We Heard Mike. My axa yesterday. He believes the Mary Randall. Who came in? Who can't play corner or safety is going to be more of a safety For the rate for the raiders. But he's a guy that can play a couple of different areas they are tried to solidify that secondary as much as they possibly can with a bunch of talented players as they've moved off for Carl Joseph and they need to kind of figure out how to fill in With some talent they've got a bunch of young corners that they hope Compan- out Now if you ask safety leg mckinney who can really change the complexity of defense. He can do a lot of different things for you. Back there just is is to me the best safety in the strap by far. I think he's a top twelve player in the draft and if he's still around nineteen because teams are kind of hesitant to take safety early. That's a guy. Look at. You do have to be aware that the cowboys may grab him too. But they added ha ha Clinton Dix and free agency so that may not happen but I. I like the talent of a guy. Like Xavier mckinney and Mike. Mayock said best player available so To me he'd be probably the best player available right. There actually sticky. Maybe the cowboys do cash in on mckinney. But you make a great point there with Clinton Dix. What are the cowboys doing it seventeen? They taken some defense there and through the raiders have to look out for who? Obviously they're going to take to try to position themselves at that. Nineteen pick for to get somebody that they really want. How do how do you Kinda plan this out when you look at seventeen? And the dolphins probably taking offensive tackle or or somebody that can hold up that line for them. And then the raiders. What do you think happens here? How does this shakeout on? I think I think Dallas Better Take Defense. I mean if he know Dallas and I think I know them they better take. Ethan's hope they take the corner. Obviously Henderson's going beyond Adams missing mentioned a few There's a kid and TCU Jeff Ladny I think they need to Christian Fulton Navy. But the the even if they Reach their for corner. I THINK DALLAS. Better get defense. And like Adam Sediment mckinney Anderson or. GimMe Gone by Nineteen. So you know again. I mentioned Glad me other people a corner. I have a feeling. The raiders stayed true and go wide receiver at Twelve. Or even throw us. You know trade up like we said May with Cleveland. Because they get antsy about judy or someone who is still there they have to go defense in Nineteen. I I don't I don't think I've bought into the Jordan. Love thing even if Gruden loves quarterbacks I think if they pass twelve and they're into the teens. They've made the decision go with their car on Marcus Mariota. And whoever else they can get in that room so You're right I mean at nineteen they even need to be continent of. If there's a defensive guy they really like who can they get in front of who needs defense as well right because down the line here? I think the if you look at the about from twenty four on I feel like the saints are GonNa Go Defense. I think Vikings are going to go defense. The seahawks the ravens packers. Definitely I think would look at a linebacker may be in that position so titans another probably the chiefs. So there's a lot of picture that I think will be defensive towards the end of the draft. So I mean if you're the raiders. I think you know either. You're looking at definitely getting ahead of somebody with somebody but is reaching. Do they try to pick some place around the line? I mean that's been a talk about the raiders. Probably looking to get a second round. Pick Somehow Adam in a perfect world. If you're the raiders and you want to get a second round pick how do you trade around what you do have with your selections to acquire one? Yup I think it might involve trading back out of the nineteen and picking up a couple of picks couple maybe a second and third something like that If they want to make that happen or packaged their later trades or later. Move up but I think you know Max. Max reasoning seems to be He'd rather have You Know He. He loves picking that second third round. He definitely wants to be in that second round But he also doesn't want to give up a whole lot to move up so I think it'd be more likely moving back and trying to drop down and finding multiple players Instead of maybe taken that one guy at nineteen that they want but We will see what he does he you know. His philosophy seems to be just grabbed the best guys you can at that spot and You know if you'RE GONNA IF YOU'RE GONNA IF YOU'RE GONNA move move back and get more picks more than a moving up in mortgage a whole lot to get ahead. One thing it'll be interesting to me is how many picks from Clemson and Lsu they acquire this year based on last year's picks with a lot of guys coming out of the championship game from last year. So we'll see what happens with this coming year of. What's your input here? What do you have on all this? Talk about the linebackers Cory Littleton Nick Wykowski. But also you know what they created on the defensive line picking up another starter in the league. Collins is an interior defensive linemen and some some really good depth of Carl. Nasa who I think is going to have a pretty big role with the raiders. A lot of different Schemes and situational football. Bring bring pressure off the edge and you also have various Randall. The safety that they picked up from the Cleveland browns. So I think it picked up four. Basically starters in free agency and that's pretty impressive Also created depth on the defensive line in defensive secondary so the long and short of that is that create a lot of flexibility for them going into the draft especially defensively Closing some of those holes They don't have to reach at a certain position They can just go with the best player available. Mike Ma'am back said you know who's the best defense flare? Let's go. Let's go get an. I do think there is still a bit of a pressing need at cornerback opposite Trayvon Thought they have their guy. He lied apple that fell through They are they have a lot of hope for Isaiah Johnson who was Jenner in the fourth round last year. Come UP A RANGY. Six foot one six foot. Two quarterback brings a whole bunch of athletic ability to the table. Use a wider suber. Is I two years at Houston? So there's a lot of promise there but I think they're gonNA have to Pick up cornerback Whether it's an draft or trade or or you know in a second wave of free agency but they really do like what they did defensively in your talk about their linebackers and house-key in Littleton. Both of those guys played stay on the field. All three downs can apply against the run. They're effective in pass. Coverage and that was really glaring. Need for the raiders last year. So tell me I was really excited about what they were able to do. On the on the defensive side of the ball so one last thing I want to talk about all these wide receivers. We've been talking about. There's a name out there right. Now that I think is interesting You could probably a good fit for the raiders. But I think there's an issue right now with his health and maybe how they can evaluate that being in the Times that we're in and everything just being completely different than anybody's used to in terms of evaluating prospects and that's Randy Nyack Arizona State Guy Edward you make of him and Where do you think he fits here in the scheme with all these wide receivers that we've been throwing around the names of today? Well you mentioned. You mentioned the injuries He's explosive kid From Arizona State. As you said you know if you're talking about the raiders is may oxygen. Let's say they pass on wide receiver. They trade back or you know something happens where they don't get one in the first round then they'd have to get a second round pick as he won't last pass early in the second round it is probably six or seven on the board ahead of him but with his speed might end up being impactful as most of them. So you know. He's A. He's a option for the raiders but only if they would trade back in her first or get a second and probably be early in the second every mock. I've seen has been at the worst early in the second so I guess he's an option like others are Late in the draft if it may have fought to pick up another one but that would have to mean that they take a reach on the first of the somehow get a second pit. Yeah he's a guy he needs that physicality he's not. I don't think he's strong enough right now to be the guy that people think he can be the league definitely some explosion the good athleticism and would be an interesting note as he is. Arena guy. He's a he's he went to McQueen High School in Reno so Northern Nevada Kid. Coming to play for the raiders would be interesting but I just don't think he falls in toward the writers will be picking. I think they'll be better guys available at nineteen and I think he'll go really late late first early second in. It's not really where the raiders would go so Probably not in the cards but would be a good story all right. Well thank you guys for all of the input. You're on our mock draft in. That'll do it for the first round of the draft here and we will come back with a two point. Oh version of our mock draft on the raiders picks as it gets later in the week here and we're also going to hear from Jonathan Abrams. Tomorrow we'll have some sound lined up from the interview that are Cassie. Soto has with him later in the day. So we'll have that audio replayed here on the podcast tomorrow so. Make sure to tune in for that. We're gonNA hear everything about this safety and his recovery and all of that and justify could really quick. We have a question that just came in on twitter Let's see. Would you take okay three to one? The question comes from Chris at Bourbon. Raider. I like that name urban. So he's as your who would you take at twelve and do you think we should trade back from nineteen again the second round while I think Adam address the second part of that question but their first Who would you take twelve for me? It's definitely CD lamb. I think jour-jour going to be gone and I think. Cd-rom actually fits nicely into the raiders scheme. And I've talked big things about him than past shows year that I think the dynamic type receiver that he is will be something that will contribute to the raiders. Adam twelve is judy right earliest lab. If Judy's there judy is the guy If lamb is still there he's the guy would not settle for Henry rugs at that spot and I would. Actually I would go away from that. And if one of the top you know six or seven players in this draft who are mostly defensive players falls for any reason I jump on one of them but Maybe UNC Jay Henderson who is pretty rapidly rising up the boards fits in twelve. If those guys are got Eddie of anything that there I will stay with what I'll do without him. If if the browns move on from Odell then you probably can't trade up but I have a feeling. Maybe they're in love with Lamour Judy. And if it is Judy They might try to move up and get into the tenth. Bobby is also is Adams. Said there's a lot of teams around there who are GonNa want wide receivers and I just can't believe they are not in love with one of if not the top two guys so if that happens and they see. An Beckham moved I WOULD TRY TO GET CLEVELAND'S PICK and make sure I get judy very heavy. It hope that answers everything for you Chris Bourbon reader and if anybody else out there ever wanted to throw our way or just some comments feel free to hit us up all on twitter at grainy out of no LBJ at Vinnie. Bonsignore and I'm at Heidi Fang. That'll do for us today. And we'll be back tomorrow. Jonathan Abram and later in the week or two point Oh mock drafts so keep listening here on the show. 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Dan Patrick Show - Hour 1 - Mike Mayock (03-15-19)

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Dan Patrick Show - Hour 1 - Mike Mayock (03-15-19)

"It's all about me. Dan, Patrick gas. There is more where that came from click back for new episodes all week, log Geico presents eyewitness interviews with inanimate objects. This is Brian Bruno live on the scene of a recent windstorm here to describe the event a chest of drawers, there's a storm howling outside. So I thought I'd stay in and watch a rom com. Five minutes into the flick, a tree branch slams through the window. Where are you hurt? I just gotta scratch on my chest. Your chest of drawers can't help you in a windstorm. But the guy go insurance agency can help you get covered for personal property damage. Call gyco to see how affordable homeowners insurance can be broadcasting from the Mercedes men came. This is Dan Patrick made it to a mean Friday controversy with the meat Friday song to have that for you coming up here in a moment. We welcome you to the program seen. Paulie, fritzy? Mclovin. Yours truly here on the Dan Patrick show. We'll talk to the new raiders GM. 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He hid inside shots outside shots. Played good d- dominated the glass and. Probably showed us again while he'll be the number one pick in the NBA draft. But you know, that's down the road this month, we get to enjoy him playing college basketball, which he clearly loves being part of this Duke team. They have a great chance to make a run. It's March in everybody's watching Zion Williamson, but in the coming weeks that spotlight gets a little brighter. We'll see if he's able to get a little bigger and his team a little more consistent. I still have issues with this team. You know is great Zion. Is they didn't blow out Syracuse RJ Barrett's, very good talent. But I have issues with some of the other role players here and those three point shots. They're just not a great three point shooting team. Now, I know you can say here's the blueprint force them to shoot three pointers. It's not that easy because you have some inside you got some guys on the perimeter. Who were okay? And you have some big men who can get to the who. But if they can't or if somebody gets into foul trouble, then all of us. Sudden with this one in done in the March madness the NCAA tournament Duke is vulnerable. Now, everybody is Virginia last night. You know, you have one guard guy who was great and then Jerome who's not. You know, that's what happens these kids are inconsistent guns Asia got stunned by Saint Mary's it happens and somebody's gonna get knocked off early. It just feels like that's, you know, going to be the road we go down. Now, we're not going to be surprised anymore. Feels like and watching last night watching a lot of the basketball last night. You know, Texas Tech. I'm watching Texas Tech and go on wait a minute. Texas Tech supposed to be good, and they got knocked off by West Virginia. I know it's only conference tournaments, but this will happen one week in to the NCAA tournament. All right, mclovin. We'll have a poll question for us. 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I cannot find my copy of the meet Friday bylaws, as you know, one of the founders of meet Friday as you I cannot find my copy of the by loss. So we have basically one question does the voting stand as is or do you as host and namesake of the Dan Patrick show have some type of veto power? Because member no matter what happens on the show, you could say it's my show. And that's what's going to happen. You can all you always have that chip. I can't do that. You cannot my will you will. You will not. I will not I subscribe to the Ryan Seacrest. Simon cowl. Approach to this. America speaks America's spoken. We've listened we listen to the songs, and we listen to their votes. Put your meat where your mouth is Seton O'Connor. What is the problem? I almost didn't even come in today. Wow. I can't think of time. I've been more upset about a loss tough that. Okay. The traitor advanced right translators. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. That one had vocab, you know, actually, I think round one had about two hundred seventeen thousand votes. Okay. So people are invested in this and the one particular race that I was watching last night in the matter of about an hour. I think over four thousand people had voted just in that our because it was so close and people were going crazy. What is the battle in question? Well, I'll tell you who advanced. Okay. Okay. Mondays food dude as bland wins as to Thursday, please know tofu me Friday by me love matches seven seed, that's a seven seed. Yeah. And I love the cure cure is a great man one of my favorite. Okay. And that unfortunately, knocked off me cooking and smoky room the smell of sauce and me per few. I can't wait to take another by the taste goes on and on and on and on working hard to get my fill. Spirit. Stay dog won't right. It was like she do set down at the kitchen table and just rip that off stunts meat. Eating. Rare is feeling better. Yeah. That was tough tough to say goodbye. Okay. What else? Do you have it after that? I don't know that anything matters anymore. You pull this was an early favourite. I think this entry was in November and was considered a possible. One seed. Yeah, that was so there was a lot of controversy about that one being a two seat and not a one. But unfortunately, but you know, she could have been Christian hackenberg. That in a previous draft would have gone number one. The drew lock of this year's how close was the vote one hundred twenty one votes electoral college, no, no stone electoral college that was that's Emily in North Carolina. Who did that? Because her kids thought, it would be really funny, isn't it in? So damn Lee. I appreciate that. I appreciate the effort, and I feel bad for the kids. It's all about the kids. But, you know, America's spoken they need to know. This is how life is. Okay. It was. Apparently it was a rough day for two seeds because we had another seven over a to drink. Plays in the sausage. Joe in Michigan with American grill. Seven seed. You wanna take guess who that knocked off? Oh. Yeah. Okay. The people of spoke have Vinson Virginia. This is just an unbelievable upset. This is what I think I would hire him to perform when my daughters get married at the at the recept you may have to because he got a business, but I would do that my daughters are ready to get married anytime soon, but I thought that much of ints playing all of those instruments and now I love Tom petty. But this is greatest Mona Tom Petty's career posthumously. Now, the other one that we have we have one other upset these these. We have other upsets, but these were the closest and who was knocked off. Will these talking sports with his guys Dan's the man smoked chicken, delight smoking slow. I'd like to ask suck it back. Poor chicken wings, breaking the laws. Good anything. Don't believe is done. Just check the rings got an award. Wait. He got knocked off. Travis Travis got knocked off. By Ryan in Iowa. During Y. I was I. Nephew. Choose. Forgot how failed before the Schrader made me. All right. Okay. All right. So we're down to the mosquito sixteen and then we go to the elite eight AT and then the final four. Is this John legend, maybe feels I could be John legend near Yam polling is there. An MIT I t the meat invitations ornament loses can go home. Okay. I got a poll question for we take a break. Mike Mayock, the raiders GM will may coming on and Shaun O'Hara. How about who drafts Cuyler Murray? Giants raiders cardinals or other other. Okay spice you there. I think the raiders love him. I think the raiders love. I don't know if they'll get him. But also if the cardinals are they drafting him are they keeping him? Josh Rosen on the move a lot of questions here. I don't know if we're going to be supplied the answers by Mike Mayock, I'm curious why may aunt and Gruden didn't show up at Murray's pro day. The raiders did send representatives. We'll talk to Mike make your phone calls coming up more meet Friday songs as well. We'll take a break here. Thirteen after the hour. Dan, Patrick show. We live in a world where we have access to data that gives us more personal insights into who we are. And what's more personalized than your DNA? Right. I mean now we can turn to our genetics for personalized health traits and more and twenty three and me allows you to go beyond ancestry to excess more personalized insights about. It you based on your DNA. You get more than one hundred twenty five genetic reports things like the deep sleep report. Right. So if you've always suspected that you feel more sleepy than others after missing out on a night of sleep. 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More meet Friday songs as we have cut the field in half from thirty to meet Friday songs to sixteen as we inch closer to the final. Fork in Minneapolis. Eight seven seven three DP show, Email address DP, Dan, Patrick dot com. Mclovin. The poll question, then we'll get to Mike may on the raiders, okay? Who who is going to draft? Kyla murray? We have an addition to cardinals raiders giant dolphins or other. Okay. Let's bring in Mike Mayock, the raiders, Jim. Let me start with the poll question. Mike who do you think will draft Cuyler Murray that was clever? It's early. I thought I to get you on that. I mean, come on. I'm sitting here listening to. Your poll question, really? Okay. Am I gonna in? Then there was a day you were subtle. I just always. Okay. Can I talk to the analyst Mike Mayock for a moment? As opposed to the the GM, Mike may. That go on man. Okay. Have you learned a lie? I'm not a really good liar. Like, my kids say, I mean. The end of the at the end of the day collar Murray is just intriguing it's become such a quarterback driven leg. It seems like every year when I wasn't analyst. I felt like there were three or four quarterbacks that probably should have been mid to late first rounder for true value. And they all always got pushed up kind of into the top ten or top five. And I think it happens every year. And I think we're in the midst of I mean at this point year in March, you know, I think the quarterback thing becomes more and more conversation and collar Murray has got special talent Haskins has special talent from Ohio State kid from zoo has special talents. So yeah, I think all those guys are very intriguing should we care about height or lack thereof at that position. I think we're getting to the point, you know, drew Brees was always kind of a standard bearer. But russell. Wilson. And you know, you start watching the way the game is changed. We're we're we're getting more and more of the bread style offense from colleges, and I think, you know, you watch film McCollum Murray. The kids got a big arm bowl hops out of his hand. He seems to find passing lanes not many balls get knocked down. So you'll always have some concern about that. But I think the other burials that come into play for him you and John did not go to kinda Murray's pro day. What was the reason for that? John, and I were a little bit busy with free agency. Okay. Does the pro day matter that much to you to coaches to GM's? I think for for quarterbacks. I think you have to see him live. It doesn't have to be pro day. I think you have to see him throw the ball alive. It can certainly be during a season. It can be a lot of different places. But it's the one position where I think he can watch all the tape in the world, but you also have to at least see the ball live out of his hand. I've always believed that and and I think I always will we're talking to Mike Mayock the Oakland Raiders GM joining us Dan Patrick show. It's still tough to say that Mike. I mean, I'm proud. I'm happy for you. But it's Mike Mayock. I'm so you're saying Mike may on the NFL network. You'll be both household different. Take me through the end Tonio Brown trade. Can you can you take gimme some of the, you know, backroom dealings. The gory. Details here of how did you pull this off? And and you pulled off a great deal. Well. I mean K Kevin Colbert the GM from the Steelers been a friend for eighteen years. And you know, he, and I had talked for few weeks prior to the trade in and I told him we had no interest in trading one of our first round picks, and John and I've been unified on that front. And so I kept saying we're not interested. We're not interested. We're not interested. And then the buffalo thing fell through that Friday, and they reached that one of their guide reached out to John and John reached out to me, and I called Kevin and Kevin would you would you trade your too? And I said, no. But you know, we we might trade are three I think we'd go with our three and long story short. We came to an agreement on a three and a five and the hard part started after that to be honest with you. I mean, the hard part was it was contingent upon getting ABC signed to a new deal, and he had certain goals and parameters, and we get certain golden parameters the deal was on and off two or three different times. I went to bed Friday night that deals off and we got up Saturday morning and drew Rosenhaus credit. You knows how to put a deal together. I mean, he he's he's two nations. And you know, we went back and forth. I can't tell you how many times, and we moved a little name of the little and ultimately Antonio Brown became a rare. Yeah, I'm always curious about that that, you know, the best deal you can make sometimes when you can walk away from a deal or you give the impression I can walk away from this deal. Was that part of the strategy? I think you've always gotta. Be willing to walk away from a deal, and we went into it. And there was bottom line is again, John and I were unified on those three first round picks. So as as intriguing as they be was we were trying to build this team a certain way, but when he became available at a different level. It was kinda like listen, you know, we can change how we practice. We can change what we look like on Sunday, we can change. How teams have to defend us and for three and a five at that point. We were ready to say, okay. It looks like free agencies. Gotta change for us. And I mean, the funniest part was I barely have been out of his building and our own or Mark Davis asked John to come to Las Vegas for it for an event that Friday. And so we took our wives. We barely saw our wives. It was you know, we as Johnson. The press comes were basically, dating drew Rosenhaus. Antonio Brown that night on the phone and trying to make things happen. So it was pretty cool. And ultimately it worked out are you rebuilding. I I'm not sure how to define what the raiders are doing after you trade Kalou Mack, and you trade Amari Cooper. But then you bring in a b. Book. I wasn't here last year. So I can't speak for that. What I do know we're foreign twelve we added four really important starting players to our team if we haven't even talked about Trent Brown twenty five years old, and we think one of the dominating offending Lyman in this league tyrel Williams play for our division rival chargers. We're gonna pair him with a AB. Lamarcus Joyner are nipple flash safety. We think is special and again all those guys are young so people what could be and say, well, you know, Antonio Brown's gonna be thirty one years old. And I'm like, yeah. But dude, he travels with the nutritionist he traveled with his trainer. I've never seen a guy that that spends more time trying to make sure that he's gonna play for seven eight nine more years. And I thought the most telling comment he made in the press conference when he was asked about goals and ambitions outside of. Team gold. He said I'd like to catch Jerry Rice. And he believes it and I love that. He believes it. So I don't think his age is contrary to what we're trying to do as far as building a young powerful tough football team. You know when you look at personality, where do you stand? I doesn't strike me as gruden's of freight of that. But you know, when you're bringing in a big personality by into Neo Brown. What concerns if any do you have I look at the positive side of it. First of all the connection between him and Jon Gruden was amazing. I mean John John's connection with players. I mean, they wanna come play for Chucky. It's unbelievable. And the two of them giggling like little kids watching clips of Antonio Brown in his office after we signed it was just priceless. As far as you know, whatever happened in Pittsburgh. I mean, you know, that thing fell apart in the last year, and sometimes those things happen. I saw nothing. And again, I I've seen him practice and ten or fifteen times in my duties as a broadcaster in with trope Pennsylvania in in a hundred degree weather. Nobody practices harder. It's you know, you can say what you want about who he is. What is or you know, all I know is he wants the football any practices harder than anybody. He's potentially a hall of fame wide receiver. And again, he kinda changes what we do on offense. What do you talk about? What do you say to each other? I don't know that means well when you see him like non foot dude have any non-football conversations. I mean, he's all ball always on non football conversations, basically evolve around other teams football. I mean. Oh, yeah. What do you think? Arizona's going to do. What do you think of the move Denver? Hey, we got up who's on who's talk on your tap aboard. I'm like coach, you know, how you doing man. It's gonna sit would you be surprised of Arizona does not end up with customer. Dan, iran. I have no idea who's going to do what? And I and I mean that I mean it took Josh Rosen last year. All we can do is control what we can control. And we've got three picks in the first round. And we'd better be prepared for all eight of our picks. That's all I know final twenty seconds. Do you think you could take Gruden? Take them where you know on me. I know what you mean. Did I think we I think if you put us in a in a closed environment only one guy could get out. Yeah. It'd be pretty interesting. Do I like that? Hi, congrats on the job and the success. So far, it's going to be a fun ride. We appreciate your time as always Mike, Dan. Thank me. Good luck. That's Mike may on the raiders GM. I couldn't fool him. Couldn't get him to wait into. You. Didn't give us an answer on the poll question all of a sudden. Now, he's Mr. GM apple may act sixty but in very good shape. Yeah. Rangy and Jon Gruden fifty five we got. Grew. I think could lose a limit. He'd still bite you. He like, no, no hands. Feeding bite you to death. I think may act sneaky. Yeah. Yeah. I think he's sneaky like, I think I would know what I'm getting with Gruden. But may I'm not quite sure. And that's it's always the unknown that you have to fear currencies like a kinda guy. Headbutts people doesn't mind doing that. Yeah. He might have been a grappler in high school. He might have been a been a wrestler there. Yeah. Mclovin. What if they could just been like, I think the dolphins are completely random been great. Yeah. Or he just said, look, we're we're taking them. We're gonna get him. Don't tell anybody. Yeah. They they love Cuyler Murray. But how much does Zona love Cuyler Mary? The fact that nobody traded for Josh Rosen or was able to trade for Josh Rosen prior to free agency or during I mean, I so I'm trying to figure out the timing here. If you're AirAsia what are you waiting for? Now that free agency is settled now, you know, Nick foles going here. Joe flacco is going here case keenum's going here. Teddy Bridgewater staying here is now the time to trae Josh Rosen. We now know the giants are bringing ally. Manning back in ode L Beckham junior is gone. Are the giants going to bring in Josh Rosen? So just trying to understand the chess match that's going on here with Arizona and the rest of these teams that may need a quarterback could use a quarterback. Also, I don't know if you realize it's Jordy Nelson in AJ McCarron were released by the raiders Jordy released because they brought in and Tonio Brown. Maybe he was going to be released, but AJ McCarron and I couldn't help. But think remember when AJ McCarron four years ago was going to be he was traded to the Cleveland Browns. Cleveland Browns didn't get the paperwork in. They thought the Bengals were sending in the paperwork, just imagine. And I do think AJ McCarron can play in the league. Imagine if Cleveland soul progress with AJ McCarron is their quarterback. They thought that they may have something here. Then they would have taken Baker Mayfield. Like just just small things that happen in what they mean in a bigger picture AJ McCarron could be your starting quarterback in Cleveland, and they wouldn't be looking at Baker Mayfield last year. But Cleveland got the paperwork in late or Cleveland on Cincinnati was going to send in the paperwork, by the way, the Browns and Hugh Jackson were willing to give the Bengals more for AJ McCarron than the Niners gave the patriots for Jimmy Garoppolo. Yeah. Yep. On October two thousand seventeen the Bank. The Browns were too busy celebrating the agreed upon trade to send in the paperwork. The the Bengals did send in the trade paperwork. It was good to go. The Browns did not relate otherwise trade goes through and Jim McKiernan the Brown in theory as starting quarter. Yeah. Yeah. That was a big deal, and you know, Hugh Jackson loved AJ McCarron because he was with the Bengals as their offense coordinator, he knew what he had with AJ McCarron. Now AJ McCarron released by the by the raiders just Jordy Nelson end up with the Packers. It sorta makes sense. But I don't know. How old is shorting Elson thirty three thirty to check. Yeah. And I think he did. Okay. As with the raiders last year. Mclovin came on a little bit at the end of the season. Yeah. I mean with him it's always been health. So he's he's thirty three. Here are some numbers in the first twenty four hours of free agency, seventy nine deals, totally one point seven billion dollars, eight hundred forty two million guaranteed, and I was keeping an eye on what was going on with teddy Bridgewater was teddy going to leave the saints to go to the dolphins. Now, if you just said he's going to go from one place to another to be a backup quarterback, and he's not going to cost you sixteen to eighteen million dollars a year. But we're gonna let you compete for the job. Well, ted. He didn't want to go to Miami reportedly because he wanted that sixteen million dollars and the dolphins did the smart thing because I would let teddy Bridgewater compete for the starting job. I'm not handing him the starting job. You have Ron tannahill and maybe have him for one. More year. Maybe you make a trait. It makes more sense for the Miami Dolphins to make a trade for Josh Rosen with that rookie deal that he would be on. And then I've got some flexibility there. But also, I wonder is teddy going back to the saints because he has to because Miami wouldn't pony up. Or is he going back because he's been told a Druze gonna play one more year? Now, I'm trying to find that out because I think you can have the following scenario. And I have I'm not going on anything that I've been told yet. Drew Brees plays one more year. Sean Payton coach is one more year. Drew Brees retires. Maybe becomes an analyst Sean Payton ends up with the Dallas Cowboys. That's just just throwing that out there as something that I would keep an eye on because I've said all along I just kept thinking Sean Payton was going to somehow end up with Dallas Cowboys. I don't know of drew Brees. Drew Brees started to show some age and where at the end of last season. I didn't think he was certainly the second half of the season. I didn't think he was crisp. It'll I don't know where he's a health nut is well and in great shape, but I don't know if we're looking at a window of if I said isn't going to be three years or one year, I would probably lean towards one year, but it's still a good team Super Bowl contending team. It's hard to walk away from that in a magic what one more Super Bowl would have done to drew Brees legacy. It changes it dramatically. Really does. Poll question. Mclovin. You got updated results there. Okay. Who is going to draft kinda Murray and the choices being the raiders the giants. The cardinals the dolphins or other. Oh cardinals are leading raiders second right now who had the best week if I said Antonio Brown. Odell Beckham junior third Nick foles lady on bell. Who had the best week? Brown got guaranteed money, but he's going to the raiders. And with Pittsburgh. It's a better team. And he's got a better quarterback. They're in a better system to catch one hundred ten balls Odal Beckham, you leave New York you go to Cleveland, but you're going to a starved franchise. That's ready and willing enable you got a great nucleus there on offense. You got a quarterback coming off one of the better rookie seasons in NFL history. Nick foles gets out from Philadelphia underneath Carson Wentz. He gets paid gets paid a lot. And he goes to Jacksonville goes to Jacksonville not a lot of weapons there and the expectations. Are you better? Be pretty good here. Lady on bell. You left fifteen on the counter with the Steelers. You never made that up. You are refreshed ready to go didn't take the wear and tear of year. And now, you're awarded. The jets in a three year deal. So who had the best week? I'm going to go in Tonio Brown because he wanted guaranteed money. He orchestrated this out of Pittsburgh. And he goes to the raiders where he'll be, you know, maybe the face of the franchise along up to up until this point. He was the coach Jon Gruden. That's you know, you can sell that for only so long. Hey, come out and see our crappy team with a coach, you know, you want to see if there are people on the field who are worth watching. And that you believe in Odell Beckham going to Cleveland. See I look at the giants giants learned from the Steelers that you don't wanna situation that they ran into within Tonio Brown where you have to trade him. And I think the giants probably thought look we're not going anywhere. Although I don't understand the golden Tate deal like gin twenty three million guaranteed. If you're tanking then tank don't bring in and I know that they're not a lot of wide receivers. But Odell Beckham going to Cleveland, Nick foles. They all did. Well, I think viane with the jets we look at and go. Yeah. But he ended up with the jets and he lost fifteen million. So was it a great week? He I would leave it up to him to tell me because he if he thinks it's worth at for sitting out last year, and you go to the jets you go to the New York market, and you're making decent money. You know, he might look at himself as a winner. I probably go into Neo Brown. Yeah. Polling Nick foles six big winds to the starter gets him alight huge contract. If you know Nichols is not the guy that I would want. He's not. But but he had a great week. I just don't think he's every week. You know quarterback. He got a new he got fresh air. Cut is white probably said, hey, you know, got a press conference. He might get a haircut. Do you think she like combed it in the car? Got some Paul may put on their YoM, mclovin. Is it possible a year from now we look back at this and say, wow, we thought those guys had a good week, and they all ended up having a bad week because that has phrases where looks good. Yeah. Oh, absolutely. That's why when you grade these things like I'm grading it. Now, it's like grading draft. I can't grade you immediately. I have to grade you three years out. I think we all think Dell had might have the safest spot Lanny more than Tony because of all the risk with the rebuilding raters. I think we taught it I was saying that del feels like he's got the safest landing spot where the Browns are going to be good. But he didn't get paid didn't get a new contract. He's just got what I know. But, but he's I think is deals going to look like a bargain in a couple of years. That's why thought you have one of these great players. How many times do you get an del Beckham junior? How many times you get into new Brent like these are really special players, and I know that you can say well the system, you know, odeal might feel like God. Thank god. I got out of New York. And I got a thirty eight year old quarterback than a rookie coming in. At least. I get a guy who has proven as a rookie quarterback that he can be a great leader. And put up some good numbers. Yeah. Fritzy, it's easy to say for put the money aside without Dell. But I thought he jumped out as the one because he's going to be part of something that could be really special in the next couple years with Cleveland, even though it's going from New York to Cleveland and playing with Mayfield with that elites or the lead offense that looks like something really special could happen. He can be part of that almost on the ground level. We'll come up with our play of the day. Your phone calls. Are welcome. Reggie Miller will stop by also the former giants offensive lineman, the NFL network analyst, Shaun O'Hara will join us. I think he's scratching his head as well that they got rid of Odell Beckham junior the third. All right. We'll take a break and more meat. Friday songs were down to the misc-. Beat sixteen this trigger meet Friday. 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I watch a lot of North Carolina last night man their phone that is an uptempo team. They can shoot they Louisville wouldn't even get back on defense or they thought they were back on defense. Next thing, you know, North Carolina's got a layup or they got an open three. There was a moment during the game where Zion dunks. And then he's running back down the floor. And the Syracuse senior Frank Howard appears to put his foot out as if he's trying to trip Zion Williamson now when you're watching it when you watch it in slow motion. It doesn't look good. But if you watch it in regular speed, it feels a little different now. Do I feel like there's intent there that's hard to read into? But it certainly looks like Frank Howard's trying to trip Zion. Williamson I don't know why. But that you get that feeling. He didn't get cold for anything. But Jay Williams at halftime, a former Dookie when crazy he was like, those officials should get together. Huddle up and that guy should be suspended. He's you know, I'm like, okay. I don't know. If Jay reacted that vehemently when you had a situa-. Ration- with Grayson Allen a couple of times at two did you say they should huddle up. They should be suspended. And maybe Jay Williams. Did I don't know? But he went apoplexy last night at halftime over this. Look, we all want Zion Williamson to be healthy and play you know, it's for our own benefit. We want to be entertained. He's must see TV. We haven't had this singular star. In college basketball must see TV in a while. But I mean, let's don't overreact to this. You certainly got that feeling last night at halftime. Like, I should you know, be considering that they should be talking about this at halftime. I'm like. I don't know if they're going to do that j. Yeah polling. I watch this thing about one hundred times it looks like he gave a little foot out there. It's not the end of the world. But the result is so interesting commander Zion Wilson trips. Doesn't mean you're into that game. What is the lead today? All that. Right. I think we'd have to bring the teen out and put Frank Howard in people will go crazy. Yeah. I think we'd have to know what are you doing to my college bounce cable? Susan, yes. Frank howard. After the game said, I'm not gonna wait for years to get to the states to start tripping people, if your competitor, if you're a basketball player war, and it's a way of war and art of war, and I don't wanna win like that. If I got a trip people try to hurt people. He's a great kid. And you know, it's silly. I understand were an era of clicks, everybody gotta get clicked, but don't do that. Okay. The from outside looking in. If I do showed you and you and you knew nothing about Zion Williamson star power, and you didn't know anything about Frank Howard. If I said look at that. What do you think out now initially when I first saw it I thought no Zion. Didn't get tripped. Going to the hoop. Because I didn't notice it going back. It was on the way back from the dunk where I go, okay. It's one of those where you like sometimes you'll lean into somebody or nudge somebody, you know, it's not. Sometimes it'd be reactionary like doing. No, you're doing it. And I don't know. I don't know. Frank howard. I don't know why he would do this. It's early in the game. And then you're gonna try to trip Zion Williamson in slow motion. It looks a whole lot worse. Again. I've watched about sixty times Frank's our it's deathly comes out. And he does trip him attention on intentionally. But then as he's walking away Zion kinda stumbles a bit Frank Howard kind of puts his arm are like oh sorry. Dude. Kind of that like trying to help you. So it may have been an accident. He definitely played it off as if oh my bad as he sees Zion to a quick stumble. Okay. But sometimes you'll do that just to make up for the fact that you try to do so. Oh, oh, sorry about that. But you can't in this day and age, you can't get away with any of that from social media till all the cameras and everything if he would have gotten hurt or falling down they're going to look at that a million times, and they're gonna see every angle of this guy. He tried to trip. It did not oh you didn't. Oh, okay. I didn't. I didn't think there was anything intentionally you know, and he stuck his a weird movement with his foot there. But I didn't I didn't see that as he was trying to knock Zion over making fall. Well, we're movement by your foot as I on Williamson goes by side. I don't know. I just don't know what you gain k but we can't unified by the whole sports on Zion. Williamson the star of college basketball do kits hurt because he decided to stick his foot out there. Okay. It's going to be replayed befalls down. But Grayson Allen would do this, and you go why are you doing this everybody sees this? 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NFL Network analyst Daniel Jeremiah

Sports Media with Richard Deitsch

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NFL Network analyst Daniel Jeremiah

"Everybody. This is Richard dick sports media podcast might be terri- Mellon. I guess this week if you're an NFL fan concern me national draft really doesn't mean any introduction. Daniel Jeremiah has been with the NFL network since twenty twelve is per straffed. Was twenty thirteen prior to that. He was a scout from NFL teams Kooning the eagles the Browns and the ravens and the reason I wanted to have him on. And I think he's going to be an interesting guest is and Daniel, and I have ops you talked before, but his his role sort of changes a little bit in the post. Mike Mayock Yere, given the prominence of the draft Rennell network programming, and given I think Daniels sort of new prominence now at the NFL network, and he had prominence before and Daniel Jeremiah joins us on the sports media podcast. It's you're in California Daniels. Good morning to you. Hey, thanks for having me on. So I wanna start here before we get to may axe departure, and how that might impact you. I think people are fascinated by the NFL draft and many things about it. But here's something that for my audience in particular. I think they'd be really curious about let's just sort of pick a random day three weeks before the NFL draft can you as detailed as you can take me through your what your day might be starting specific like what time you get up. And then what time you go to sleep and everything happens in between. Sure. Sure. You know, if we're going about three weeks out of the pro days will be over if it's a day where I'm up at the network for pass the draft. It would be it would be different. But I'll run your day if I was at home. Okay. I'll get up at I'll get up at six thirty. I will we our kids go to different schools. So we have four kids. And my son goes to school cross town about twenty minutes away. So I'll take him to school. We'll leave about seven ten get him to school. I'll get home back home about eight at that point in time. I usually get some get some coffee, and then I go into my office. And then I'll start watching tape video. I guess it's old habit for scouts. We still say take even everybody knows. It's not tape. But we'll start watching video of players at that point in time. And that will be interrupted by some phone calls. Maybe some text messages with with friends in the NFL in personnel departments where we could be talking about players. And who you're watching? You know, why do you like this guy? I don't like him that way, you know, these are friends that I've had going back, you know, twelve pleasures. So that's kind of sprinkled throughout the day. I try hopefully, go to watch my wife, and then and then get a little bit more done. And then next picking up the kids. School. And that kind of that'll take care of know family stuff between going to track meets and soccer practice, pick up the kids, and we try and get dinner together. And then once the kids go down that about eight, you know, from that point on I'll go back into my office and try and get another two or three hours of of work done. And then you get up and do it all over again. How different will that be? Let's say for a pro day where you would in Sierra cly. I guess it's a big pro day, you might be on site at that pro day. Yeah. So I'm gonna go. This is something that'll be a little bit new this year during during the time scouted, obviously went to zillionaire pro days. But I haven't been to many since I went over to the media because that was kind of Mike steel Mike would go out to the pro days. I was in the studio five days a week for pass the draft. And you know, Mike would file reports are talk backs, and he would be on the show from remote location at those days. So this year. I'm gonna get out to about six of them. So I'll go to Oklahoma to see Kyle Murray. Ohio State, Alabama, Duke and Missouri have quarterbacks all be there in state. So I'll get a chance to get out to more this year. So that'll be something. That's that's new for me. But new old I guess new in this in this role, but reflects that for my scouting days, and when you're at a pro day Daniel is it how do I sort of phrases are what you are looking for with the sort of the process be the same as if you were working for the eagles or the ravens in terms of your, you know, your actual scouting for the NFL network for your mock draft. Yeah. I mean, I try and function. And I think this is something that Mike a great job of in was really really excellent in this area to me. You wanna look at what we do is work for the NFL network has the kind of unofficial thirty third team. So you're building draft orders. If you're one of the thirty two teams, you have the same questions that you wanna get answered when you go to a pro date now, the differences, obviously, the teams have more access to to be inside the program and inside the buildings, but I still have a lot of relationships and friendships from my scouting days with with these colleges. So using those relationships try and get the best information, I could possibly get to go along with, you know, trying to answer some of the physical questions or concerns you might have about a player getting a chance to go to the pro day watching them move around watch him run watch them interact with their teammates. It's the same gathering process as you would have when you were when you were with the team. Okay. So Mike Mayock has been I think it's you know, it's fair to say the face of the NFL network may be rich Eisen is facing. You know, what those two guys fight it out at least it's twenty sixteen but they were the co faces of the NFL network and Mike the face of the NFL draft. And as I've written many times and said, Mike Mayock to me is the best. He's the best television draft analyst I've ever seen have great admiration for how he approached the job his work ethic, and for me, at least as of you're he revolutionized the experience in and I appreciate it that that's a long sort of filibuster. Daniel to ask you a couple of questions on Mike's departure first off Howard. How has Mike's departure changed your day to day or week to week if at all? Yeah. It's a little bit different. You know, the the good news is two things. Number one. Is I got a chance to have a front row seat for six years to watch how bike handled that role, and what went into the preparation for that role? And he was always very open with me in terms of his process. So that that was helpful number one. And then and number two, I get Seamount, you know, say similar about a work. I'm still watching the same out of players that hasn't changed. My tape study all that I would do to get ready for the draft on that standpoint. To know the players that didn't change for me. What changed for me is? Now, you get to these events the combine or you know, the senior bowl the all star games. I should say the combine. And in the draft is there's other elements that that that Mike would would be involved with in terms of putting together. More highlight tapes, Exo tapes breakdown tapes, and so, you know, we have a wonderful staff in place led by Ben fennel on the east coast films. Who does a great job of coordinating that? So I didn't have to worry so much about putting those types of tapes together. But now it was, you know, Charlie, you're could it kind of set everything up for me and showed me, you know, how this process works on that end. And so I've been sitting const. Communication with Ben on. Hey, look. I just saw watching this player. I just saw this play. Can we make sure we put something together? So we can you know, Kyle Murray. For example, we you know, one of the big concerns with him as with his size Howdy protect themself. So as it was going along the okay, look, he's he's getting out of bounds. He sliding he's turning his shoulder. He's protecting himself. So I would just take my phone video screen as I'm watching these individual plays. I'd be texting back and forth with Ben fennel, and he would build a tape force that we could show to to let the viewers know, you know, how he would be in this type of situation. So those types of things that might have been doing I hadn't had to previously. That was new for me. How is Mike departure changed? How you think the NFL network receive you, and specifically, you know, have you been told that you are you're now the lead whatever whatever it means. It means anything you're the Lee draft analyst for the network, the I mean, it was just, you know, something that been talked about. Maybe previously. We look I always like being the backup quarterback. You're always preparing yourself in case the starter gets hurt. Or if this the starter moves another team, you wanna be ready to step in. And so even from when I started it was like Mike is the best Mike is phenomenal. You know, Mike not do forever. So you need to be preparing yourself to eventually be able to step into that role. So it's something I've been working towards and and then when Mike left, you know, look, it was we're all said see might go because as great at what he does and and B's wonderful team. But there's also an opportunity that was you know, that existed. So that was that was to me to get out think it was ever said, hey, you know, you're the you're the guy or your lead this or that it was just, hey, you've got an opportunity now make the most of it. So that's the way I approached it feel any pressure in that, you know, I think people again NFL fans know who you are. They certainly are familiar with your analysis. But that's gonna probably Daniel get exponentially bigger. Just given how much even the NFL networks going to push your mock drafts. No, I don't think. So, you know, look. It doesn't matter who you are you a mock draft you're gonna get so much blowback and criticism of social media. If you haven't callous yourself at this point time, I'd be surprised. So I don't feel any more pressure. I have too much fun Richard to to let the pressure kinda body. It's it's I love it. I I love watching players talking about players. I love talking about team building. It's something that you know, somebody was asking me about the combine. And you know, how you're gonna protest. I said these are the same conversations we're gonna have on air or the same conversations I had for eight years in the stands sitting with my scouting buddies. I said they just kind of throw Mike on you now. So it's still fun. And I I have too much fun to to worry about you know, opinions or pressure that that might be out there. It's just we're talking with ball. It's not rocket science. Nobody's living her dying here. I it's a blast. For me. Let's talk about what the sort of the schedule is Daniel in terms of mock drafts where as we tape this. We're taping this on Thursday, March seventh. How many new versions of a mock draft? Will you do prior to the draft itself done? I just did my second one the other day. So that just came out this week. So in years past it's very sometimes I think I've done as many as maybe eight this year. It's not quite as many. So it'll be this is my second one. I believe I have one more, and then I will do one, you know, Mike did his his his final mock draft of the day before the draft. And it was they put that into a little bit of a show. So I believe the plan that would be my my fourth and final one. So it's a, you know, people can't get enough of them. You know, the as the traffic as nothing to do in my opinion, whose names on it. If there's a mock draft that exist people eat it up, and they'd love it. So I know I know we with network and as media group, you know, have my four, but you'll have Bucky Brooks. It'll be putting them out Lancer line puts him out. Chase good bread. Him out or ask wealth. We have. I mean, it's a we have a ton of that get put out there. So people can get their their appetite met there for all these mock drafts. Do you do enjoy it? Do you? Enjoy the process the actual process of compiling list, putting it out there, and knowing that people are going to treat this the way some treat the apart. Yeah. Well, or treat it the way some treat the Magna Carta or the declaration of independence. You know, I always I always enjoy my favorite part is ranking players. So my favorite exercise in the whole process is updating my top fifty list, which I tell people my top fifty list is is done with my eyes. My mock draft is done with my ears. So that's why I don't take offence. If people get upset or you don't like picking a mock draft, this is based off kinda what I'm hearing and talking to people around the league what I think might happen, not necessarily what I would do but early on man that was a that was new to me going into the media, and and put my first mock draft out, and I remember going on Twitter and be like, wow, it's going to go my mentioned, and if people are excited about this real happy with what I was able to give their team that I realized quickly that that is not how that works. You will you the negative folks will will jump on a hurry. So that was an eye opener. But now I have fun to the point where. L text with buddies and stuff some of the best replies. I get. All right. So here's really what I want to ask. Daniel is this is just fantastically. Interesting to me, television wise, so Mike Mayock is going to be the one of the point people for picking the Oakland Raiders draft this year, and there are significant team in the draft with multiple high round picks. Are you going to feel pressure Daniel to be predisposed to favoring who Mike likes in the draft? It's funny. We've had this conversation and might not even not even though. So we talked early on right? When he got the job. And we we we always talk about players one of the things Mike, and I would be texting and calling each other from you know, the end of the NFL season to the week of the draft. Because we're both cramming all these players jam and watching all this tape, and we see somebody that we get excited about it. So real, you know, we'll text back and forth. And hey, you need to watch this game. I didn't like it, Mike. Well, you know, what games did you watch? And I like this just a contract dialogue between us. And so he gets the raiders job. And we're talking on the phone, and we started talking about players like we always did. And he knows I would never burn would never, you know, put anything out there about who. They like don't like. But he was so we get to the kind of the end he goes now, just you know. Hey, don't ever connected me these guys, and I went come on, Mike. I'm not going to do like that. And then I started thinking about it. Media should back off my communication with Mike because this could be a fun game knowing him as well as I do to just being able to guess what he's going to do. And he can't get mad at me because he wouldn't have totally. But it would it would just be a very educated guess that for spending so much time with him over the years, where what what you would tell you know, this in front of me, look it up as I'm talking where are the raiders initially drafting what's the seven or something like that? I'm trying to remember where where are they they've got three first round. Yeah. Three first round picks starting with four four. And then they go into the twenties they believe twenty four twenty seven so three. And then they've got a couple of twos. They've a boatload of pick. Okay. So at least at number four right now, you're trying to get in that ahead of Mike Mayock who is mic MAC and a take it number four as I talked to you on March seventh understanding that if you're wrong not holding into this. Look, I would think you know, we even did a talk back right after get hired. I was in that day. So we did a. Doc back with him for total access, and maybe aftermath any was show and film that work in one of the first question. You know, what is a raider? Look like, you know, teams around league teams I've worked for and you talked to anybody who say, okay, we know what a raven player is this is what a Steeler is. It your vision. What is the Oakland raider? What is it looked like any said and typical, you know, Mike's voice of big tough physical. With. And so I'm sitting there looking at, you know, at pick number four and Nick Bosa from Ohio State of some Barack Yetlis action took place eat fell there. I think they would run that in and then Quinton Williams from from Alabama's another one who I think plays the way that Mike appreciates. So those would be too that if somehow they were to get there, and we'll see what happens if Tyler Murray goes number one. Maybe it pushes one of those two guys down to them. You the things that might tell me when I talked him over the years. Daniel was that he loved to go to as many different NFL team offices as he could prior to the draft the abbey had really good relationships with, you know, whether it would be GM's GM's, positional coaches, and he found that that was among if not the best way to really get a sense of thinking about how the droplet would go at the same time. Of course, these guys would ask Mike wanting new because Mike had seen things that they had. Not seen. What how would you describe your relationship with the different team offices end like Mike, do you travel to different team complex over whatever it is from January to April every couple of weeks? Look, we we have you've been in this at the small small community. In the personnel department. Mike it worked really hard to, cultivate, a lot of relationships. You know, I from my time in the league and even in this role. I've new friends I've got old friends. So I've got contacts and most of these buildings and some some really close context. Now, the only on differences, you know, Mike with Microsoft on the road and go out there and visit with those teams I I'm going to be doing most of that work over the phone. That's something. I've always done. I've always felt comfortable with that anything that I've been able to need I've been able to get and I can have that phone commerce, and then twelve and I can be at my daughter's track meek at at three o'clock. So it allows me to kinda keep my balance that I need I used to ask this question of Michael. And it's always interesting to get his perspective as well as your bosses in the people at ESPN the same thing. But do you do you see ESPN on draft day as a competitor? And then specifically, do you view Mel kiper and Todd mcshay? During that broadcast as a competitor. You know, it's interesting. You always wanna always your competitive, and you want to do the best you can. But I don't really look at them that way and part of it is because I've known him forever. I mean, one of the first things I remember in college. And I know you've heard the story million times about my relationship with Chris Mortensen. But I would go to the draft when I was in college and answer more phones. And I was just you know, I was all in on on the draft. And that's where I wanted to do what I want to be involved in Mel treating me like gold Mel put me in his in his draft guide. My my senior coming out. I remember seeing him and he goes to see the guy the draft guide and I haven't seen yet. Mel any you pulls one out of his bag and shows me, I was like I was like maybe second collasped quarterback at Appalachian state got me and got me in his guide. So it needs a he can still remember everything about about. My college career is is unimpressive as it was. So mel's always been good to me. And then tired of somebody that I knew when I was scouting got know him. Well, and and at work good buddies, and we were just talking with each other the other day. So I I'm all about is much interest. We can drive into the traff. That's great for everybody. So and I get asked all the time. Even you know, you see these different websites popping up, and there's a there's a dedicated website out there now like draft network. You know, that Miller does his thing and people what do you think about all these guys that are kind of these these independent start independent? Some of them get picked up a draft unless I'm like, I hope we get a million more, whatever drives more interest and social media and and gets people talking buzzing about the draft. That's great for everybody. That's why you can go to Philadelphia and have a couple of hundred thousand people, you know, walking around outside and and being in being involved in live draft event that it's become so the more the merrier for me. Did you a free? Genton FA or a late round pick. Okay. I was not an his draft. He's nice. But he's not crazy. Gotcha. All right. So the reference Chris Mortenson, and it will go over this quickly because they're going to be some people who don't know this, but your father, David Jeremiah is the senior pastor at shadow mountain community church is that still his church. Okay. Very well known pastor if Google Daniel's father is very prominent in that world, he had a relationship with Chris Mortenson. I'm not drab they were either friends or or sort of became friendly based on faith and Chris Mortenson, correct annual helped your media career get started right out of college. How did he do that? What is that story? You're he when I was in college. He knew real quick the backstory there. So the Super Bowl between the Packers. And the Broncos San Diego was out there covering that Super Bowl. He listened to my father on the raid. So for years, and so we went to my dads church to meet him. And then my dad invited him once after shirt, that's where I bet Chris the next day. He in kinda new in talking to me knew that I was interested in broadcasting the next day. He was going to interview interview Reggie White for a one on one. And he asked if I wanted to go with him, then I'm here. I'm like. Yeah. Absolutely. So end up going with him their Reggie White. And and then we Morton struck up a friendship during that point in time. And then while isn't college he would have me come to the draft interest phones at that point time, I met Jay Rothman who was producing the draft ESPN. And then he was doing college football at that time. And so, hey, I'm doing the Orange Bowl which the national championship game. Again. I'm still in college. And he said if you can get down here, you know, you can be an intern runner. So I paid my own way to Miami and picked up sandwiches for everybody the for the for and then I go through graduate college. And then. At the Sunday night football job to produce that and he reached out to me and asked if I wanted to be a spotter for Sunday night football. So that's what I did for two years sending on football with a spotter up at the booth who who responded for two Rico, and that was that was Mike that was no that was Mike Patrick allowed. Joe seismic palment wire might do that. How about that? And then and then I was also the second year I was in g producer. So all the Phoenix. You would see, you know, the shots the opening shots and all that I want around with a couple of camera guys. And and and it was just make sure that they could get into where they needed to get into shoot that stuff coming out of break. So I did that the second year and then through that process. We were doing a game with the ravens in Iran in my brother's college teammate in the press box was a scout for the Baltimore Ravens and just a chance meeting. And then he said, hey, we have a we're gonna have an opening in our scouting department. Do you think you'd ever be interested in that? And I had not taught anything about scouting. And well, it sounds like a pretty good pretty good deal. So anyways, that's what led me getting an interview. And that's what led them getting involved in the scouting what? The Baltimore Ravens. Interesting. I went ask if I can't a couple of questions about your faith in relation to sports. It's an interesting topic to me so first off how do you weigh sharing your faith publicly with the sports world, which it many times directs people to do the opposite on either religion or politics. I'm not I'm not I'm definitely not in your face about it on social media at all what I have been able to do is to kind of use the platform that I have to get opportunities to go speak at schools to go, speak at churches, different things like that. It's create some opportunities in that world forming. So that's the way I've I've approached it. I know people have different thoughts on how you how you integrate that. Obviously huge part of my life with each part of who I am. But I I've tried not to take the approach of just being, you know, beaten, the overhead and being Oltra aggressive with it. I just hey, you know, where I stand. If people ask me, I tell him. And and it's opened up some some cool doors for me to be able to speak and do some different things away from sport as the as the son of a pastor is in challenge. When people come at you on social media, not to respond. Well, I mean, I think it's helpful because one of the things growing up. I always knew if I got you know, if I did something dumb while I was growing up if I was in high school, if if I would got in trouble, it, not only would it got me, you know, in trouble at my school or kicked out of my school. Because of who my dad was I would it would have been on the news. You know? So that was always an extra motivator something stupid. And there's still always that that thought that look at you like to think you would never do something because you don't wanna bring shame on yourself and your family your immediate family. But then you add extra layer of medicine, really bears. My dad if I was a jerk on here. So I just feel like it's an extra safety net. And would you just so sort of I so we formally have it or listeners have it? Would you classify yourself as a Baptist or or if not how would you? What what would you say? You're religious. Yeah. No. I grew up in the it was a Baptist church. But then they dropped that affiliate. Nation, and I don't I don't get all hung up into that. In terms of you know, the word Christian. You know, people ask me what what's your faith? I never say on the Baptist. I say, I'm Chris you. Gotcha. Okay. Your father in addition, obviously what he does. Now, he was the chaplain for the San Diego clippers right when they played in San Diego as an NBA franchise. And also. Yeah. And he also from what I read lead chapel services for NFL teams when they were in town to play the chargers. So in your youth. Did you did you have experiences as young person just intermingling with either the clippers or NFL teams given your father's relationship to pro sports? Yeah. Absolutely. You know, my my dad was a chaplain for San Diego clippers. My brother was the ball. Boy. For the clippers my. Yeah. My brother was the ball with the other ballboy was we grew up with Giles fun. I don't know if you remember them, but Brian Johnson played for the Indian pirate. Good hit or Ryan. And my brother were. Yeah. Yeah. Brian. My brother were the two ballboys. And then after the games, we would wait, you know, my dad became really close friends with swint later that was playing for those clipper teams in swin had been doing loans, you know, back up at UCLA, and we're still first round pick but him and Bill Walton. But he's but after the games, I can remember somebody earliest memories games, we'd be waiting there. My dad would be talking to whoever in and me and all won't kids with would be shooting hoops out there while Bill had his feet in in a bucket of ice trying to I. We'd be out there shooting hoops little kids. So those those are fun memories. And then swin ended up going to the Waco. So we would go up there and see him a couple of times doing that. And then football, you know, doing the football chapels that I can remember we were huge cowboy fans growing up. You know, we follow the show we had to it was the chargers and the Cowboys. And so the Cowboys would always put a chargers in preseason. So my dad would always do their chapel. And I can remember being at the team breakfast. They let you come to the team breakfast, and me and my brother had both. Brought our our Tony Dorsett football cards and Tony Dorsett was two tables away. And we just kept doing you. Go do it. No, no. No. No. You go do it. And we just sat there we'd needed one of the courage to go get twenty four sets autograph. But we always told people he just ate breakfast tables away. Yeah. As a yeah. I remember it seems like the Cowboys were on every Monday night football game. Indoor set was always was always. Starring when you said you shot baskets with the. Walton sons that would be Luke Adam Nate, Chris those Walton's, I don't. Yeah. I don't even remember which ones they were. Because I ended up playing playing against them in high school, summer, retirements and stuff. They just kept coming and some of them you had you had some nephews who played as well. But yeah, they were there seem like there was a wall in high school basketball, San Diego for twelve straight years. Now, obviously Bill is of course, a prominent ESPN broadcaster. And maybe one of the most unique broadcasters. We have ever seen in you know, in multiple generations. Did you have any experiences or one on ones with Bill when you were a kid anything memorable? Why can remember playing in a plan like an tournament? And and I, you know, he knew who I was a little bit just because of his my dad or swin, and and I play this you turn it, and I probably was eleven or twelve some around there. And after the game was over. He was there, you know, as soon as someone's playing in the tournament, and then he came up to me. He gave me he gave me the phone number. And you need to go down and play. There's a place called a unique Jim and invaluable apart down San Diego. Which was you know, one of the better open gym runs in the city. And he said he'd come down with they're playing basketball gym. And here's my number. You call me I live not far away from there. I can meet you down there. And I remember just thinking like that was that was the most bizarre interaction this the wall won't phone number. I'm a little I'm a little kid, but he was it was definitely memorable. I love the any kind of interact with Bill Walton when he was playing at San Diego. Just always kinda fascinating to me. All right. A couple more here. When you how do, you know one of the topics that comes up every year Nobby teach really really in the news right now, just given Charley Casserly comments profootballtalk Mike Florio commenting, and this sort of happens every time in the silly season. Do you have any thoughts Daniel on the quoting of anonymous scouts, you talk to obviously a lot of scouts. You were a scout yourself, you have talk to GM's, etc. But it's you know, as someone who sort of reading this as a sort of a reader not connected in that world. It's always hard to discern. Like, what is real? And what may be being said to play with draft positions to play with people's perception for reasons for altering motives, and I just wonder again someone who's in that world. How do you view? The anonymous scout quotes that we end up always seeing from it seems like February to April. Sure, you know, one of the things just to be totally honest tied wurley on when I got NFL network and media group, one of the things that that I started was I did this thing called ask five where I would ask five personnel executives could be polish scouting director pro, you know, director director player personnel general manager, whoever, but I would pull five guys, and they wouldn't put their names on. It was definitely anonymous. But I never to me. It was who would you rather? Have you know, who you're aged green who's gonna big who's going to be the, you know, the big riser while blah, and it was never a never wanted to get anything about guys off the field, or you know, anyone go negative. I guess the way I would say it. And I thought it was helpful information. I thought it was interesting to see kind of what the what some people in the league snapshot, they give you there and. And people go why don't they go on the record? Well, if you go on the they're gonna get fired. These guys aren't supposed to be talking to the media. So that's why. But I always found I usually would do that during the fall because I thought you could get some useful information once once NFL even ends then draft season begins, and that is that is, you know, lying season at that point in time. So I was always skeptical of information that you would get on players or, you know, stock rising falling once you got into the course. And so I at that point time, I would usually stop doing that stuff. So look, Charlie Charlie definitely got the information. He's not making it up. You know, Charlie's is a professional and rather than information talking to a couple different teams. My whole thing on that one. Specifically was look if if Josh Rosen being shocked, which was mentioned, you know, Charlie mentioned that the Josh Rosen was Boone shop if he's being shopped then Kyla Murray as the only. Interview that he needed to and that was the one with the Zona cardinals. So that to me was bigger story to come out of that was man this kid's going to be the first overall pick. That's not very leave one last thing on sort of a sort of the whole draft narrative that comes in this is again, just your how you view this and others probably will view it differently. But however, you determine Daniel like the word makeup or off. It's such a non sometimes nonsensical code words. But off the field issues, if someone has criminality in their in their past or current if if you've been told that a player has whatever kind of issues at a university, how do you you may not reveal that obviously to the public if you were told that in confidence, but how does that kind of how does that make up impact your evaluation, and does it or can't it? Move people up and down. I remember talking to Mike wants and one of the things that he he took this really seriously one of the things he really never got over was he believed that he did not trust his instincts on Johnny Manziel in terms of sort of Manziel off the field versus on the field. And he allow this is his paraphrasing. But I'm right here. He allowed he sort of he bought into what maybe pro Mansell people were telling him about his play and that superseded maybe Mike's hesitancy natural hesitancy about what he believed Menzel might not be able to handle as a quarterback. And he he felt in his opinion. He Missa valuated him totally. And I wonder in similar situations. Just how does how does all that stuff impact your evaluation and wouldn't have dramatic impact? In terms of moving somebody up or down. Absolutely. You know, one of the things that that any evaluator in the NFL will tell you important. I had a good fortunate learning under Ozzie Newsome and Phil savage. Is you always have to go back and study your own mistakes. I call it your hits in your MRs like you need to constantly go back three four years and go through your list. I keep an excel sheet for every draft at how I have players rated. And I have my comments on you know, to the to the right of the column there, and so I go back through, and it's pretty simple, you know, go back through and and and look at what they've accomplished and I will either give them a green yellow or red green. I feel like I got this player right in terms of my evaluation in where I slaughtered him yellow. Is you know, it's okay. It's not the best. It's not the worst. I was in the ballpark in a red is a whiff, and so when you go back through, and you just then you just sort it, and you go back and read all your comments that you had at the time. On those players you missed Richard. You'd be shocked at how many times, you know. Some of the off the field concerns have factored into why this player didn't achieve what his physical abilities, which should have. So I've become and you get a little bit older may become a little bit more conservative in focusing on the war of some of these players not getting amored with the ceiling and to me. That's why like like there's a perfect example TJ Hopkinson in this year's draft. I with high then he's not book. He's he ran okay. What he has good production. Not not doesn't blow your doors off with his production. But he's he's strong. He's one of the best run blockers. You catches everything that comes his way. And I've been told leadership character all that stuff is off the charts. So I have a meme is my my fifth overall player right now. Now, he might be the twenty second pick in the draft. But I know exactly what I'm buying with him. And and I'll. And I'll go in that direction over somebody else might have a little more upside, but I've got to take into account all the other stuff. So I never go. I'll never go public. If I hear a guy, you know, some stuff that hasn't been reported publicly. I'm not a reporter. I'm not looking to to get that information out there in the public. But yes, I can move guy down my list, you know, based off some things that I hear, and I talked to a buddy with another day about a specific player and said, you know, look I liked him on tape. He's good player. Man. He did not he didn't work out well to combine it didn't even wait he'd really trained for some of the things you saw field. And he said what's funny say that because we had him in our interview room, and we asked him to great his practice habits on a letter scale and gave himself seat. See that's not. That's not good. And be that smart. You know, you might as well why in that case? But just there's little tiny little pieces of information that you kind of gather just trying to put the puzzle together. All right final two, and these will be more draft specific as in a general sense Daniel as best as you can how would you evaluate this class in terms of talent, maybe a potential starters versus last year? And why who I think you just start with a highlight of the draft in that is defensive line? It's it's as good of a defensive line group in terms of not only top tier players, but depth all the way throughout since. I start scouting in two thousand three. So that to me is the is the cream of the crop of this year's draft last one of them, and you're gonna you're gonna have a lot of options. So that that is a great group ofensive, line wise. I think it's really good. I don't think there's a, you know, Joe Thomas. That John Ogden any type of premier premiere player at the position. But there is a lot of depth. You know, quarterback wise, it's it's kind of a wild card year. I don't think a favorably to last year. So you've got to really intriguing players in Tyler orient Dwayne households. They're both warning your starters. So you've got Kyla Murray? People look at the size a little bit of a concern. You look at Wayne Haskins the mobility is a concern. So they aren't just clean clean prospects. But those are the two best at the physician in my opinion and then to me running backs underwhelming corners underwhelming. So I think if you look at the classes, a whole you say you love what you see on the defensive line the offense with big man's draft tight salad. But for the for the most skill positions. Just not quite as a top tier heavy as we've seen in recent years. And then the last one. And just I think the listeners just would be interested. Just in terms of you educating us. How much does the the scouting combine and people getting a chance to you know, measure Cuyler Murray, the amount of sort of measure Cuyler Murray, measurement stuff on Twitter that day was just a crazy crazy town. You know, obviously teams talking to him people seeing him like how much of that is is of real value of determining what it seems to sort of someone like me who's an NFL watcher and just sort of reads all this stuff like he solidified himself as a top three top one guy that week. I don't know where he was before. But I guess my question for you is is like is that like what happened like Ken how you measure can't how you interview can the whole football world like being there for a week. Like does that solidify guy as the number one or was he may be number one beforehand? And and this is just sort of story in news and fodder because that's what people. Due at the scouting. Combine. I think there's a chance he could have been the one before the combine. But there was so much variance in in. What was expected from her size? You know, I I had heard, you know, during the year there was talk. He's one hundred eighty three pounds well to me more so than the height that that would have been tough tough to get over. Just there's to be very difficult to survive at that position at one hundred eighty three pounds, so two hundred seven pounds. That's a significant difference in that can have a major impact on where you would stack somebody like that. So that to me the measurement absolutely mattered. And I tell people that the forty and people like to laugh, you know, you're running shorts move the corner position. You know speed is is a big deal. And when you watch the tape watch college, surly, see them, all get tested and challenged vertically. You don't know you think he can run, but he hadn't played an explosive receiver all year long or pointing an off coverage. The whole time. So that's a question that really does get answered at the combine when they run. So that's where that wholesome real value. And you know, you mentioned the interviews what what has a greater impact anything else in Indianapolis is the medical. So once they, you know, once you get your medical grade, I've been in the draft rooms where you have you love a player on the people at the school tell you he's okay physically. But the doctor comes in and says, no he did not pass our physical. That's it. There's no discussion. He's off the board. It's over we always say, look, let's let the coaches coach scout scouts and let the doctors the doctors, you don't know more than them. So when they tell you this guy is a major risk, and he's failed the physical. That's a wrap. Daniel Jeremiah is the NFL networks sitcom, the Lee draft analyst of seeking catch other guys. They're Bucky Brooks standard as a podcast with him. And it's gonna be fascinating too. To see all Daniel's work over the next couple of weeks. Given now that Mike Mayock is the general manager of the Oakland Raiders, you're gonna see Daniel a ton on both the NFL network and online and NFL dot com and his his podcast as well. You wanna give a shout out to your podcast Daniel, given that you are a podcast here. Yeah. On that line on that note. I I wanna move this fix podcast promo before rich gutty rich Eisen show promo where if you were betting Vegas. You lost a lot of money on that one or may revise and has a podcast move, the sticks Daniel, Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks that is the official pockets. Listen Daniel, I'm happy for your success. I've been wanting to have you on this podcast for a while. We are we're going to be inundated with Daniel Jeremiah over the next couple of weeks and best of luck as you prep for the draft having talked to your bosses there and Charlie Euch and Seth Markman and all the PIN equivalent to. It is a public doesn't know how much work goes into it. How many people are behind the scenes, it's a massive undertaking. And and so I wish you the best of luck within thanks so much for coming on today on the sports media podcast. I appreciate it meant one. Last thing. I want to give a things publicly to Jackie Android, who's kind of my been my researcher through this process and guys like Jack that that make the whole thing go, and and he's a stud. So it's to give him a little of is. He is he LA based or somewhere else based as he based at the NFL network headquarters or somewhere else. Yeah. He's a he's an LA. So you know, I sent him a little projects that have me intrigued in turns around and gets them. Right back to me. So that's what you know. My mike. I chance to end up front chances. Stand up front rich does. But guys like Jack are the ones that can't make the whole thing. Go. Yeah. I mean anyone who's in a front facing position? Whether it's whether it's podcasting whether it's television, whether it's radio knows full well that you are honestly nothing without a good production help or good producers. So those glad you shot that guy out and talk to more Quincy. Oh, get that guy. Arrays? Daniel you've got some juice now that may gone, let's make that happen. Call up a phone, you take your jet. I appreciate that. Daniel. Thanks so much. I'm sure I'll be talking along the way. Right. Thanks, Richard take care. All right back in the studio. My thanks Daniel, Jeremiah who again is become you know, the face of the AFL networks NFL draft coverage with Mike Mayock now with the Oakland Raiders, I bring producer Terence Terence. You're telling me that you you have done work with the NFL network. I don't know if you had ever worked with Daniel Jeremiah before, but you are if nothing else you're familiar with that network. Correct. I worked for good morning football for. A little over a year at as it was getting going, and it's it's awesome to hear him shout out the production help because just being having been on the other side of of the camera and helping out on the back end. It's good to hear because there's so much work that goes into cutting up clips and finding the right clips to align with what, you know, a talent or a person on air would say, so it's it's awesome to hear Daniel shout out the producers, he has because I just know how much work goes into it on the back end hearing that guy give shout out in his position is pretty awesome. Do you? Are you surprised that? Maybe you're not surprised but good morning football has become such a hit among hardcore football fans. The, you know, the the the numbers themselves, the aggregate numbers of yours may not be massive. But that show has done such a great job of getting good publicity for the NFL network and just coming off both for its cast. And for the network is. Smart and it's a big win. Again. Even though the show is getting, you know, four hundred five hundred million years. It's just it's like a very good product at the NFL network has and I wonder if you when you work there, if you sort of saw that happening or was it a surprise to even someone work there? No, you'd see a common. I think it's a it's a real testament eight of the folks by the Cameron and all the folks that I worked with her. I know on the back end that certainly worked their butts off of that show. But you gotta give the credit to the the folks on air. Nate is a great great great voice. Peter brings his own blend of insider info Kyle has the kind of fan voicing k brings everything together and runs the the fantasy stuff, and they just have such good chemistry that people find that people are always willing to find things where they feel like they could be a part of the conversation. I feel like and that show even as it worked its kinks out right away. You could tell right away that they had a chemistry on air. That was something that people were going to find because it takes something like that show, especially on a more niche. Network like NFL network people need to hear about it from their buddy or hear about someone on Twitter. That's going to say, hey, you should watch this show. So I think you could see that building slowly and smartly and almost helped that maybe the the viewership wasn't as high right away. 'cause you get to work the kinks out on a three hour live morning show. Yep. Yeah. I major inter interrupt you there. Yeah. Totally well said and you're right. You're like you sort of like can figure it out you can figure it out on the fly. Without let's say like get up situation where the so many eyeballs on you that every misstep you have gets gets written about and chemistry. You're Sorley totally dead on that is just the one thing that you hope for as a producer. But you never really know. It does hit when it hits. It's great. Would that show? You could see it coming right away. I mean, they're all so talented individually with with kind of the corners. They own me talking about the hosts, obviously, but together, they just have a very very good vibe. And it's it's it's fun to see it be successful having been there kind of as it was getting going in and shadow tall them. And all the hard work. They do because they're they're still friends of mine. I really really really really really really respect what they do. This is like an NFL network PR. All right. Thank you. Thank you. Karen? Thank you. Daniel Jeremiah, previous guests of this podcast one right before this John O ran and Chatfield with a media roundtable, we talk about the Jason Witten. What's going to happen with Monday night football as well as just commend does David Ross Alex Rodriguez working for teams as well as broadcasters. What that means? I n eagle and Sarah coup stock. The nets broadcast team together on his podcast prior to that. And then just go down the list from Mark fana- Rwasa, Shannon, speak. Jeff Gluck with Jamila on Kevin Harlan, Laura Rutledge, Tom, Verduci, checkout, K tab, Djamil hill. Renee, young just go down the list on the sports media. With Richard is podcast. If you like this stuff, please leave this with you for janitor. Meyer for Terrence for everybody. Cadence thirteen this is Richard. I will see again on this more media with Richard Dutch pockets.

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Biggest Raiders General Manager Might Mail, and now it's rich is Our number three of our program, Chris Fowler, joining us in a matter of moments here he's getting set to call Monday night football between the steelers and the giants, and then the titans and the broncos with Steve Levy on the call with Louis Riddick and Brian Greasy. That's the team. That will be listening to for all the Mondays including next Monday night's game between the New Orleans Saints and the Vegas Raiders. Mike mayock will be joining US coming off of a big time win for him and the raiders in Carolina yesterday our poll question we haven't visited in a bit. Let's visit that at the top of hour number three, what do you have over there? Chris Yeah looking at the biggest shock from Sunday sports action NFL. And around the Sports World Bears Comeback Win. Brady loses his bucks debut the jags Spoil Philip Rivers Indianapolis debut in the Nuggets Force game seven what say you rich Eisen the big shocker. For, me was the nuggets forcing game seven Oh. I'M GONNA be honest with you. As you know on Fridays uncorking of new segment here called Higher Register where we always go appear whenever we say something to Kinda need to be. Made to believe. Because we don't really believe it. And I'm like, Hey, the Jaguars my tank might not be bad. So part of me believed in them. Brady as you know, it's GonNa. Take while for him to to get things going on I thought winning in New Orleans on the going on the road and a pandemic would be tough tough. And then bears coming back. I mean crazy things happen I. I. could not believe is you know I I chose the clippers to win it all and ever since then they did win they did win game four to three one after I said that so I can't be blamed for the Games five and six long. But I to be honest with you I bet you I'm losing on that front because it's an NBA conversation the day after the NFL returns well, I mean nuggets force game seven, second thirty, two, percent Jaguars win thirty, six percent about that. There's twenty five percent brady loses seven percents. So the Clippers in the nuggets game seven will be tomorrow night. As the Lakers Chilin wait I'm looking forward to watching Jack and rose on that boat tomorrow during that game. Playoff. So what? Very. Good. I like that. Now that was randy from long island right s who loves the giants is talking about Yup Yup. So Randy from Long Island will be watching tonight's game as well. Matt. Nagy who is an hour number two, the coach of the bears said Hey I will be tuned to tonight's game because he's playing the giant's neck. And everyone will be gathered around the television set to watch the giants and the steelers and the man who called so many remarkable matches at the US Open including a five set tiebreak. The man who who's a puts the the team if you will. Not, only in the winter of the US, open but the the teen player. Who not only called all that action over the weekend four ESPN but is calling tonight's game along with Kirk herbstreit and Maria Taylor as he always does for college football tonight's NFL game between the giants and the steals my friend Chris Fowler here on the show Harry Chris. I'm starting out the window at metlife stadium across the Turnpike here contemplating what comes next I'm well, it's it's exciting surreal Yup, but it says very twenty twenty. Empty. But Intense Arthur stadium empty but intense metlife stadium the next night. Why not now is going to say to you you're one of the few announcers who were calling A week one NFL game awarding knows what it's like to call an intense affair in front of hardly anybody. I mean what was that like sitting in Arthur ash last couple of weeks certainly over the weekend from overuse the word surreal. Now Bizarre to see someone like Serena on the court with zero fans and see a ghostly empty. Place for the men's final and but I tell you what what I've noticed in the ten this is what I've seen in the NBA playoffs. Certainly, the NHL Playoffs had a huge sample of games the NFL I watched a couple but the on field or on court intensity is not diminish one iota. It's almost easier to put the focus on that I think fans who watch football games. You can get those crowd shots going to get the roar, but you're GONNA get think. More intense focus on the participants and the sounds of it. I'm not trying to sell fan was put by I can't wait till crowds get back in it but in trying to adapt an adjusted and see what's different. Like in tennis, we were able to just really focus in on here the players. On the court, you just very weird but what I noticed was. They competed just as hard they wanted to win just as badly. They didn't get anything back from the crowd, but they didn't need it, and then that case I don't think NFL players are going to need either now espn did not. Pipe in whistles right for bad line calls during the US. Open that they did not do that right Here and stuff for the NFL. I think humans, humans are GonNa be endangered species when it comes to calling lines and a lot of tournaments are gonna go to pure technology right off the bat and and do away with the challenges and just let the machines do it. That's probably the future I mean it's safer Yoka, is on the court to Chris write. Songs it too. Chris. I mean she's recovered thankfully. The Adam's apple my word. I think I did a video afterwards and I don't know I. Don't know how this football season or the rest of the sports counters GonNa play out you guys are talking about some twists and turns in the playoffs right I. Think Buckle up we're gonNA see unpredictable stuff that's it's hard to expect and hard to to explain to people because. It's just twenty, twenty man and nothing is normal I think that you're gonNA have unlikely outcomes and I I think it's going to be a serious mental tests in the NFL is the season goes on guys any sport guys who are opting in now you can still be opting in when you're seems like three and six I mean I hope I hope it's A. Positive statement about the culture of these teams, they can keep guys together because we're all going through stuff in our own way, but it's just it just as it's A. Challenging. Tough year on the planet it's to be the same in the sports land. So let me ask you know Chris. Come on Chris, it's not. Like look we're we're all we're all trying to figure stuff out. You know I'm I'm waking up every day check the air index to see if it's healthy for my kids to go out you know on their p. e. classes that they have a in quotes during their you know online learning I mean it's a crazy world we're living in right now Chris Fowler joining me here getting set to call the Monday night or between the giants and the steelers, and before you get to that, what do you know about your college football schedule as you're currently sitting here right now what do you know about that? Funky I. Mean I think you know we the big ten is going have their their big decision about whether or not? They're going to try to crank things up. It's still possible. They could crank things up much sooner than people expect and try to squeeze season in there that could somehow put them in position to be in the playoffs I mean I it seems crazy given with the onset and they may but that's influx CMU wolverines may yet take the field sooner than you'd expect that's not not breaking a story. This is kind of. that's potentially what could happen but. Besides that the Games we know that are going to happen and just there's a few leagues that are up and running sec gets up Ryan a couple of weeks, but the schedule is very much in the air. So dumb typical. No, that's the reason why look I I know again, you you've had your your head and your voice in the game at US Open tennis and got to turn around and get ready for an NFL game tonight. That's why I asked you about your schedule because yeah. Do you know like what you're next I know that's kind of crazy to. Collapse at your. Weeks, plus in the bubble over there this challenge tonight. But no, WE'RE BACK MIAMI OUT LOUISVILLE Saturday as the game that is the first game, and then then we're sort often running after that it'll be a mixed bag but just glad to be calling games now I bet I know that I know we spoke over the summer and we're like I I don't know NFL, and now here you are coming off of a successful us. Open. Tournament getting set to call Monday night football between the giants and the steelers how how how did you prepare for this doing all that what you've done like walk me through it right down to the I T it'll be. It's a lot man. You know the the amount of information that you're supposed. I thought we got a lot of it in college. It's beyond in the NFL. So you're you're sifting and sorting discarding in figuring out how not the smother a telecast and my tendency probably used to prepare and overplay. So I'll try to guard against that tonight, but it's been a process over the. Month you try to you try to like get ready for then I what I didn't realize rich. There's about half the players on on an NFL board, right? So it should be easier right but the fluidity of the roster right down to the last minute didn't you don't have that in college you don't sign a dude who's on the field five days later starting against the steelers. The giants roster in particular as you probably know very fluid but that so many new faces and so I tried to get ready but it's it's GonNa take every minute I've got and then we're just gonNa have the it's sort of a one off. It's the one game. We'll do this year and It's really cool for me to see guys that I got to know in college and you follow him through that draft night and you're proud of what they did in detached way but you you get to know them and so it's really cool to reconnect with guys like you know t j white and. You Know Dexter, Lawrence and and Jibril peppers and Saquon Barkley I. Mean these are guys that we got a pretty. and. Now he's. He's guys. Talk is a very mature man and veterans of the League. It's crooked. I. Feel the same way and Maria as well. It's just it's fun. We're GONNA enjoy that aspect of it tonight. Yeah I was GONNA. Ask you like did you go back to some of your saquon notes from Penn State Games or even like Your College Game Day maybe Miami of Ohio on the schedule with Big Ben from two thousand three like did you did you go into your archives in prep for with laughing Ben said he was more nervous this game tonight 'cause I always missing last year now wind let teammates down and he has been since the Max Kinship game. which was in college which Kirk was broadcasting. So we're GONNA laugh about. that. No I I think I would be. To sit there and start spinning old tales about dudes what they did in college I mean you guys are pros. Our audience expects us to refer to them as pro football players. I mean it's inevitable that we're going to have an antidote or to because I think it's interesting but we're not gonNA do overdo that for sure did use zoom with Joe Judge in between US Open tennis matches did you do something like that? Day yesterday was resumed with the giant players in the morning before I left for the. Stadium Yeah set up in the booth before the final for the Joe Judge Zoom. Called the final during the match, the steelers zooms were recorded unfortunately, it couldn't be a part of that but then went home at night after the final drive, the decompress and listened to all those zoom calls from Tomlin Dan. Connor all the Pittsburgh player it was quite a day. And of course, as you're trying to prepare for Monday night, Chris, you get the first US Open champion in seventy one years to come from the first two sets down like. You've got that going for. Like two sets low for all. Six points or winning the going to be a crap final going to be remembered as a bad final. But at least I have a few more hours of prep. You can't get quite. This is a pretty damning memorable final I just lost three hours, but you know I listen to you WanNa always call great matches when when the final of a tournament is a dud I, it's just poor punctuation for the event. There's so much went into staging this USO and against all odds actually came off really well, they people did not get infected it. It was the safety record is really good I'm glad they got a final that if not aesthetically pleasing throughout at least was dramatic at the end and two guys who could barely walk or stand up. Emptying the bucket. That's kind of cool. See Chris Fowler couple more minutes left with Chris before he goes into metlife and calls the giants and the steelers fun match up that's going to be and I. I can't wait to sit down and watch it. hoped the giants can hang with frankly I I, have some concerns. But if if we got a great game I'd say that's a bonus again and seeing what Big Ben looks like. Chris. Obviously that is a monster storyline for twenty twenty. If the Big Ben that we've come to know as a first ballot sure. Fire Hall of famers shows up. And start swinging around and Juju Smith Schuster from twenty eighteen show starts materializing on the screen. Then we may have different AFC that we're talking about. That's what we're talking about. Yeah I know there everybody's getting division of a lot of folks that Kirk and others been diving into Pittsburgh if. What you said happens that not only a surefire playoff team. Go. Deep In the playoffs we'll. We'll see be fun to watch tonight for sure certainly and then I guess last one, four year pod that. That dropping soon let's let's talk about that I. I know quite a bit about it since I'm on the first one that you are producing with. Jennifer. Your lovely, fantastic better half I, give you the floor on this Chris you're part of the a very lateran four by one realize a cow Willie geist Maria Taylor you and then Jeremy, chaperoning the anchor leg I I don't know what we were thinking. We had four great storytellers. It's a ton of content. We didn't edit out too much of it, but it is like an hour a double album. so I but it's it's it's really an interesting book. You guys were great. It's about talking to people which the essence of a podcast and and it's not GonNa Sports pod is different topics. It's kind of interest me and I hope others but but you guys were all great and so we we just said, let's just debut double album I. Think People will enjoy the stories and I. Very appreciate you giving us all to. Be Out possibly. Slightly delayed, there's more to this than I thought would be at this thing. By by by certainly by mid week wherever you find your podcast, it should be it should be dropped released or whatever whatever they do at the what's the name of it? What are we? What are we looking for what? Is it. You got we. Virtually found out that every night in the sports context yes. Annoying. Question I'm sure you get that question. John Madden got that question when I first met him I was shadowing him as Eager Young College kid and people are John got and I saw how grumpy he got when he got that question. And you get it all the time, but this is in relation to who we got guests. So every every podcasting name is taken by three other podcasts out there. You didn't know that you try to come up with something that doesn't doesn't mean used, and since seventy, seven percent of Americans have a podcast. Everything is taken. But. I mean. It's just Fowler podcast easy to find out. Okay. All right. So I enjoyed the chat. It is a great idea where you talk to people who talk to people for a living and you you you have a conversation about having a conversation and when things go a little bit awry when they when they shake and I, I know you told the story on Dan show. When you appeared last week right here on peacock but you do have to enlighten my viewers because you enlighten me to this story. That you told about, Burt Reynolds I want to give you the floor here Chris to finish up. Straw the I'll do the the truncated version I WANNA. Tell his great time but no, it's it basically is. It ended up with a seventy something. You're over rentals, hunch my lights out on the field where he used to run around as a seminal player. But it began. We'll see backstage city. At least for me, that's that was my first encounter new on a little bit because he's he's courses roommate. At FSU. So we you you know he's been around a little bit. He's a football fan and booster program the the late legend But Yea, I'm walking backstage to the SP's I finished presenting bullet myself. It was pretty exciting to be on stage Radio City, and I'm walking through the dark. There's the curtains in the police backstage and I feel this sharp punch. To my left shoulder. Out It's Burt Reynolds, Hey Bert to give you don't give me that he's got a finger in my face and It was we we talked on the pot. It's interesting. You Telegraph. Funny. Actually a couple of funny mistaken identity stories. This was mine I said nothing to offend offender I swear I said nothing in my life why would I talk about? Burt Reynolds divorce. Bonnie Anderson. But he was convinced that I had said something. and. Now he was gonNA. Punch me when I wasn't expecting it. And it was started this bizarre few and and you know the reason why it's the pod is because he wouldn't be interviewed by me. So near be that didn't happen because he would not sit on the game they set. So you put them a little side set in leak had kits but yeah, I he was a weird situation I've never been now I'll never know the answer to I I I course please ask your friend why he hates me why he thinks I said something that was the worst thing you've ever heard. Leave just shook his head and smile that's burt I have no idea. So the mystery. will go on forever. PARCHMAN and wanted. He wanted to throw down on the sidelines of doak Campbell Stadium. And you said, you don't want to fight a seventy year old man. Said No. Bird I do not. As I said as I said to you, that's a no win. Of course you either you either punch a legend and your career is over you might go to jail and you might not get out of there alive because they reynolds or. A septuagenarian kicks your ass. Asked Pedro Martinez about. There's no that's not a win. There's no good situation there. So. It's a great plotting back and let him blow off steam and I went to the other side of the field to watch the game. I still have no idea why would Anybody as somebody who's known you for as long as I've known you Chris, you could not care less about the stuff like Burt Reynolds, and Lonnie Anderson and they're divorced like that that. Would've come up on Game Day. Originally I just don't think in between breaking down two days games would've come up but. Chris did I see of all the people out there. That may have said something I don't know who he thought I was as I told you maybe maybe you. Could have been. That you think I don't think. So that might have that. Maybe that's what it costs me my appearance in cannonball run three. I didn't know if that that might have been. Billy Bush. We did it the entertainment show I don't know. Walkabout. Not. Football show, but we now we're talking about it on the foul podcast would dropping later on this week I was thrilled about that and Susie and with the kids could not be more excited to settle into watch the game with you. Tonight I know you're talked out. I really appreciate you spending all this time talking with me on a big day. Thank you got fired up and say I. Good story line up the games good and then then it's back to the. Back to the Saturday night. Battles in the College Gridiron I. Look Forward to a full season on that front to thanks for the call best to Jennifer Take Care Take You Got Chris Fowler. At my wedding. Getting served yeager mice shots by Dan Patrick behind the bar, and he probably looks exactly the same. It's just real real quick. The stories that I told off of that was Ken Wilson Hunt Coming on the set a the super bowl between the cardinals and the steelers at NFL total access staring all hole through me as he was being introduced prior to the break after which he was going to appear live with Adrian Wilson the hard hitting safety of his NFC championship team staring a hole through me the entire commercial break saying I heard what you said about us. You him being. So pissed about being called the worst team in the history of the NFC playoffs. Using it as fire fuel to his fire to get his team to the championship the super bowl staring all through the entire time. Thinking I said it. It was Chris Collins Worth who said at the entire time. Stories like that or just, Greg We'll take a break we'll come back. We'll take a phone call. We will get set for Mike Knox phone call. Talk About Awkward Conversation. And then Chris Bracha than Michael Thomas. Update. On his injury and more in a moment. Visa knows that local businesses are the heartbeat of our communities whether there are corner stores are coffee spots or our favorite shops. Local businesses have always been there for us. They remember our orders, they call us by name always giving back making a difference and going the extra mile to support us and our community and right now more than ever local businesses need our support. So now it's time. 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One Bet online to take advantage of the best bonuses in the Business Center for a free account and make sure to use that Promo Code podcast one for your Senate bonus. Visit Bit Online Dot AG, and don't forget that Promo Code podcast one for your signing bonus bet online, you're unless sportsbook experts. I just want to circle back. I just spent the commercial break looking at a video that Dan Orlovsky of ESPN posted of the big four in three play that I started the show with said that throwing it to a kid rookie who's not running at the sticks a fourth and three, and there's a lot of blame. Orlovsky basically saying good play call. Ranch, just blew it up. Rams defense played the ranch blew up. The rams defense made an excellent play that it was set up to succeed in the rams. Blew it up. So that's why you kick the feel. Sorry. I know that might be twenty twenty hindsight but I was saying watching, why are they not kicking? The field goal? Tie Game. Do Your best from here on out tie the game a time. Then it is an eleven minute game an eleven minute game tie game, they get the ball first. But. Maybe, you're thinking that our defenses all wiped out because they did have. Significant. disadvantage. In time of possession because the rams were just jammed it down their throat thrown out maybe sitting there thinking the defense won't have much left I. Don't want to give the ball back I do have an opportunity with my offense to try and be aggressive and get points. It just to rescue play I. Think I feel like throughout the years. A lot of cowboy fans have been upset with Dallas play calling kept. We don't know how take enough. You know that we don't go forward enough. So I feel like from a fan perspective I'm sure a lot of fans were probably happy to see that they kind of went for that with eleven minutes because we've been so may say, yeah but the the number you haven't been safe is that we're back here on our honor terrestrial radio network we say Hello Ramadi ten, nine, thousand fans here in southern California. Garrett was aggressive to he just didn't frequently didn't know when to be aggressive and when not he would be not. So aggressive sometimes, it would be like this is the time and be aggressive in a moment like last night when it's like, that's not the time. I was thinking I I am not coming on the air today and saying something I wasn't thinking at the moment. Great tackle man it looks like he had a first down to it was great tackle Mike mayock calling in an a bit of Chris. Brockman. I'd like to get some. Injury News Fr- from you before. The raiders calls in because Mike obviously has got some injury news talk about with Henry Rugs who looked pretty damn fast and impressive early on and then and then got hurt. What do you have for me over there? News Update. With a report of the day's news from the world of sports entertainment someone who is not a journalist or news man by any definition of the word whatsoever. Chris. Brockman. Art Christopher Michael. Thomas. Didn't ever game came up Kinda limp at the end there almost got rolled up by teammate. Tampa. Sorrow and Ian from NFL network saying that Michael Thomas suffered the dreaded high ankle injury. It's something he believes he can play through and they have an extra day of rest of course, because they play on Monday nights. So now rolling Thomas Out, of course just yet but keep an eye on new. Orleans add Vegas High Ankle Sprain up by eleven with two minutes to go with the ball and. Lot of starters stay in a little too long. I mean. Maybe, that's twenty twenty hindsight for Sean Payton but. Happens Yeah Henri Bendel look terrific. Paid and running with light pockets even though he was paid. That's dion phrase right there. Yeah. He usually when somebody's looking for contract, he's running with pockets. When he runs well with heavy pockets that's for damn sure. I mentioned the to cowboys injuries earlier waiting vendor going to miss six to eight weeks collarbone broken collarbone undergoing surgery and Blake Darwin Tours Aco he is done for the year. The colts also plays Marlin Mac on IRA. It's going to end his season with a torn Achilles at such a bummer for him. He's in a contract year Adam. Gaze said today that Levy on could miss a couple of weeks with a hamstring issue doesn't WanNa put a timetable on them he says. I mean I can't I he's. Loving on bell is one of the most disappointing. Jet Free Agent. Acquisitions. In the team's history. So far. And maybe can't blame him either. But he's sitting there right now. Monday night football. Do you think he? He'd like to be with the steelers right now? Do you think big Tom. Do you think he regrets sitting out the way he did I don't think he regrets sitting out I. Think he thought he was doing the right thing. But if he's sitting around thinking. You know he's in a better spot than playing in Pittsburgh PA. He should be in that stadium tonight but for the awaiting. He'd be better off Brian for US said. Earlier today that fits magic is going to start against Buffalo and Just yet. The browns are signing cody Parkey and he is GonNa kick Thursday night against the bengals on Thursday football. Is Randy Bullock's cramp stopped by showing. Yeah. The the bengals believe that is an issue that He'll work out this week and he's not expected to miss anytime. You know maybe should drink some more water before those game-tying kicks. That was so weird. We. Talked to my Nigga earlier I I still can't believe that. You actually can't believe that can either I can't what else? About the coaches real quick. So Troy Vincent NFL exact according to Adam schefter sent a sharply worded memo to clubs today reminding coaches on the importance of wearing their face coverings on the sideline. Different coaches have approached mass rules in different ways this has been noticed by the league most notably Sean mcvay. Last night had down around its Jin. If this continues coaches will get fined for not wearing the proper way on the side have the memo in front of me because I worked for the National Football League network. A term, it reads the following a tremendous from. Troy Vincent WHO's in charge of football operations a tremendous first week nearly in the books as the NFL and its partners overcame considerable challenges to achieve what many thought was impossible football in two thousand, twenty congratulations to all of worked. So tirelessly since March to make the season possible that said Oh Good one is here's at that said. We must remain vigilant disciplined in following the processes and protocols put in place by not only the League Union clubs, but also by state and local governments. The NFL NFL PA game protocol which reflects the advice of infectious disease experts, club, medical staffs, and local and state. Governmental Regulation requires all individuals with bench area access including coaches and members of the club medical staff to wear face coverings at all times. Failure to adhere to this requirement will result in accountability measures being imposed against offending individuals and clubs. The face covering must be worn is designed so that it securely fits across the whereas nose and mouth to prevent the transmission of the virus. I would like to take that last statement and have it with me on my t shirt when I go into supermarkets. Or when dudes walk do dude due to wear A. Mask like it's a Chinstrap walking past me. And then a fixes it properly once he's passed, the coaches were doing it rich. I was watching a lot I kind of when they were talking on their coach, the comms. I saw a lot of coaches because they're. Doing as a reaction, they were involved like they were doing it just to do. Andy. Reid who looks like he wants to stay away from the Salad Bar, which is exactly what he wants to do any. Oh come on. I mean. He. Looks like. Understand, show the ring get a cheeseburger in would be. My next guest knows what I'm talking about. He knows how I feel about Andy Reid he knows I'm not wrong. He's the Las Vegas Raiders General Manager of the one. Oh Vegas Writers Mike McCurry Mike. Rich Edelman I'm doing fine. Did you do you have that Andy Reid Fe Shield ready you got? Did. Not been for that one now. So. You. Look too serious subject. We're all are smile. Be are on a little bit here, but you gotta be chuckling a little bit seen Andy. Reid is fogged up on Thursday night. And he's one of my favorites on the world I know and You know I did a Bunch Eagle preseason games and lived in Philly and got the nullum and there isn't a better guy out there and I think the whole lay got a little collective chuckle and. Like at halftime, we're going come on man, take the shield all just just come out and ask and he didn't and. You know again it's not a laughing matter but that was the the visual kind of keeps I was Kinda surprised because Andy's the king of holding the menu in front of his mouth nobody reads his lips. Now you've got a mask I mean this actually helps make sure no, one can read your lips and it helps public health and Safety Mike. It's a perfect opportunity. Yeah. I didn't quite big with that way but I guess you're right with all the fog in there. I mean it just makes makes sense at any rate. Let's let's get to your team CONGRATS on that open. When were you there? Did you go to Carolina? You do you travel with the team? I test every day have tested every day since we've been back in July and wouldn't would not miss a game. Okay. So now what what happens now? Is Perfect person to ask because now, this is what I'm holding my breath. We just had vectors cross between teams. We haven't had that yet until games are being played what happens now testing every day, and then you're holding your breath for four five days from now is that what your health officials are telling you when something might start popping? Haven't been technically nobody on that field yesterday that was positive. You know, and that's what you have to believe in and to be honest with you I kind of went into this thing a couple of months ago going I don't know what's going to happen here. You read reports around the country you try and stay current both within the sport and in society in general and you kind of go man don't know if we can do. This, and then I have to give a lot of credit to the doctors and the medical people involved both for the NFL in the NFL PA and kind of coming together and at first you you looked at all these protocols and rich I have a binder that I carry around with me with protocols and I didn't think that was part of the job when I took it. And you know it. It takes you away from the football on one side but the point I'm trying to make is that. If you if you go back to June July and we all kind of these protocols like you gotta be kidding me, how are we going to conduct a training camp? How are we going to have meetings and now in hindsight when you look the thousands and thousands of test and the minimum number of positive tests and you go I guess these guys knew what they were talking about and that's number one and number two, a lot of respect for the players on all thirty two teams for taking it seriously, and you're right the next challenge was kind of okay. We're going to be on the same field together. but technically, we were all clean yesterday and I'm not even even thinking about that a whole lot right now, we're trying to get ready for the New Orleans Saints and and I'm trusting in these protocols because they've been so good to us. That's so great and I'm glad first of all a little bit of a kidding I'm glad you've graduated. To a binder from the scholastic. Fourth Grade Notebook that used to scroll your combine notes into I'm glad giving. The lady lowered the fourth grade. And I will never relinquish that. A place in my world for loose loose papers sitting in a binder. See this is what happens when you go from broadcasting to general managing you have to you have to you have to evolve you have to evolve but. Also I'm glad to hear that you're saying you know what I obviously you are thinking about it when you say you're nothing about, but the fact that you can trust the process that is in place and start thinking about the other aspects of of being general manager that it's great to hear. That's so let's talk if you wouldn't mind about the other medical if you will. How Henry Rugs doing today what's going on with that young then best. Able to finish the game and we you know everybody's going through. The medical part this morning right now Ryan we'll. We'll figure out as the week progresses. Okay but. What what did you glean from his performance when he was out there Mike? I. He he's kind of advertise. You know we He's fast which we all know Derek for a vertical to early in the game which I think helped back off a little bit and then hit him on the forty five yard deep over again which kind of announced his presence in open things up underneath a little bit and they you know he had three catches hit a couple of Kerry's he I just think he's everything we hoped he would be up to this point and what's really cool about it as Nick Sabin told me when I had the conversation with. Nick prior to the draft and Nick said Look Mikey approaches everyday like he's a walk on. And he's tough beyond what you would consider a wide receiver to be and both those things have been very true. And then you just Jacobs I mean my God Mike I know you've you loved him. He he he basically had you at hello when you saw them certainly person. But what he is becoming right now you know I told you last year that he reminded me Zeke. And I didn't want to put any sort of ziggy on them or punch. The clown is a phrase that you always used when we were working together. But my gosh, he runs with a viciousness and he deliver arrives with an intent. He's dynamite man and I'm I'm I'm wondering what you think that after seem he's on the same McCaffrey and he's given as much as you're taking. Yesterday. He had twenty nine clutches for thirty nine yards and three touchdowns and I. Think we've kind of come to take for granted him in the run game I think what he did yesterday. Was Show people how he's evolved as a receiver he caught a choice row over the Middle Against Jack Thompson, and that is good at choice route is I've seen running back Ron and Dan in two steps let later left their free safety in the dust with kind of a dead leg move in picked up twenty eight yards on in on a crucial play for us on a little choice route over the middle and He had four catches yesterday i. think he's a cool blend of short area quickness and incredible power and you know the backstory did a kid you know live with his father and. Siblings and a car for a while when they were in high school and what? I'm most proud about is not just football he he's evolving really cool immensely mature young man's and he. He's just I love being around him and he's is one specifically no question to root for. How is Trent Brown doing? What can you tell me about him? Again it's the same thing he's going for MRI and we're GonNa see what it looks like and we think we're a little bit different when he's in the lineup but you know we need to get them back in the lineup. Okay and The getting us being back in the lineup. Abram. He looked like the kid you drafted. Gessler we're what? Yeah he had a good game I mean I- defensively we need to get a lot better and more detailed. But John Floor rounding at thirteen tackles He's he's a guy we think can be a difference maker and He he really played a good football game yesterday when you say more detailed what? What do you mean by that about your defense me more detailed again without preseason games and with as much youth as we have on our defense, I mean we we might have the. One of the youngest secondaries in the NFL for sure and we just don't have enough live reps yet. So just little things I think there's some talent back there, but we just have to pay attention to the details well now you sitting in your. If you will in black ivory tower of being management the NFL all of us back in the media days that used to be in We're talking right now mike that we don't need preseason football based on how we're seeing week one. What would you say? That are sitting out here saying preseason football should be never returned again, what you say to that couldn't disagree more. And you know you can have the conversation about whether you need four preseason games but but I would say a minimum of two. And I think you Kinda. We learned a lot of lessons I think with the challenges from the draft going forward and I thought the NFL in general and and I think we all embrace the challenges and But but what you don't WanNa do you don't really want to go into the in into the NFL regular season without seeing your young guys tackle on punts? Pump protect special teams. You know we have. Rookies that we cut that we thought were pretty good football players that. Never got a chance to tackle a guy live? And that's not fair. It's not fair to the I mean I understand what you're saying about the fans. But I look at it through a different prism and I, say, it's not fair to the young players who were trying to make a living in this league and it makes it a heck of a lot tougher on the evaluators also you know we're we're trying to. Cut People not cut people and we haven't even seen them. People get tackled yet. So I very much not be in favor of eliminating the entire preseason VEGAS GM Mike Mayor a couple minutes left with him here on the rich Eisen show what's the scoop with Mario to What what what ails him in one can we expect to see him back? To static frequent injury just. And we put them on short-term are which means he'll be back in the next couple of weeks and he should be better than ever and I think we you know when we sign them part of the conversation was he he had had some all season surgery on his ankle and he had to get himself right medically and and that's where we still are trying to get him one hundred percent medically because when he is one hundred percent, he brings a little different dynamic to the table. So getting him in there you think is that what you're saying getting on the field? I'm not saying anything I'm saying we gotta get them right medically. Have you noticed Mike that in this conversation, I've asked you injury news that you definitely don't want to talk about and mixed it in with questions that I thought I could get him on. More. Involved answer from you have you noticed that during this conversation Mike Rich at New Orleans. CIANO I know you see through me. Mike I've you've stared through me before I know I know you see through me. But I just you know I, I'm trying to get information. So you're saying Marcus Mariota it's his ankle that hurts him is that the freak injury? No I. told you all. He's an ankle injury. Okay. So what's the freak injury now but we don't talk about it. Club art so Have you. You know when I worked with Buck showalter, many many moons ago I bring this up because Buck told me he had something specific that he would do when he was the manager and also kind of de facto major Domo of the Arizona diamondbacks about their new stadium. Is there anything you? You put your own finishing touches on that will be seeing next Monday night on the New Stadium Mike Malik. Heck no nothing already designed in in in under construction by the time they hired me so I'm just. Very appreciative I get to work there eventually. So. Is there anything you'd? Like if you told them, I need to have some sort of you know candy sounded like is there anything that you set up for your viewing pleasure in this? Sitting come on. Come on. Really serious. I have no idea I mean we we have an empty stadium. And Open what's not open and to be really honest with you I don't really care what you know. That's not really on my plate. We we got the New Orleans saints who you failed the mentioned so far. Or Monday night football and we're talking about Mike and. Evaluation Process by Mike. Mayock never ceases to amaze art so. So, tell me what challenges did the New Orleans Saints Presents to, your Las Vegas Renders, Mike Look they're one atop the top franchises in this Lake Mickey loomis and Sean Payton it's on an amazing. And everybody wants to talk about drew brees as they should. Alvin. Kamara as they should. But they've got Michael Thomas. They've got weapons on offense I think they're front four. Lead. By Cameron Jordan who probably I don't think he's missed game in nine years and I don't know why people don't talk about him more they. They got four first round defensive linemen and the Mario Davis, would they just paid? is special. This is a challenge for Ross and our young team in our first home game in Vegas. And and I'm really anxious to see whether or not We can stand up to it and and compete. Okay. Are you were Michael. Thomas is officially listed as questionable. High. Ankle sprain injury that he suffered in a freak accident. in the final throes of that game yesterday that while you were flying home, you were that last statement, Colby nothing Monday morning. We have no idea whether or not will be available. Okay. Let it be is and he probably will be special. Where did you put him were used where'd you put him when he came out using us like one of your top receivers coming out of the honesty? ME. Oh you weren't. You didn't have. Are you serious Adam pretty much where the League Adam but obviously, the I had him as a second round pick and that's where he went and He is not. I. Don't think He. He was very happy with I. Think I had them. I could gosh, forty, six or forty, seven, my top one, hundred list that year and I think he went either forty, six or forty, seven, the draft so. All right. So kind of been line with where the League was and we were all way low on them because you know he's he's Incredibly special. All right. So this last one for you because again, obviously, there's no onfield conversations before the game really this year but last year, who is the one that came up to you that remember your evaluation on NFL network as you're on the field for the than Oakland Raiders, general manager who came up to you that you were kind of surprised like this guy action remembered my evaluation from NFL work you remember that one the funny thing is they all do and? And it. It makes for some intriguing conversation and I mean, the guy you know some the older raiders remember my evaluations of them. So it's pretty funny. Mike thanks for the call. How's everything? Life's good. Other West everything. Good. You're settled there in Vegas also my family's health and I have a job and I'm very appreciative of both well be healthy. Be Safe. Congrats in the opener and let's chat down the line. Always a pleasure it right back at Ya you gotta that's MICMAC. Vegas. Raiders. General. Manager, take a break we'll finish up. Set up the rest of the week is will. be saying I told him nothing he didn't tell me anything Dario. This season get football on your time. With NFL game pass. 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It's the perfect way to follow NFL SEASON NFL DOT com slash game pass to start your free trial today NFL game pass where football never stops. MIC MAC oven. Allah I by the way. He said based on everybody's telling there was no one had covert on that feel yesterday self there's no one has been covered on the field no one should. And if the if nobody went out and did anything silly then no one should have had it on the field, right? Let's go. I love. Gee. Let's on a week to. I'm glad the NFL's considering to still can still testing everybody on a daily basis including Mike. This? Keep going. That was so great yesterday that was so much fun yesterday by the way Josh Jacobs. Right. Honestly he's on the same field, Christian McCaffrey and he was he was just. As. Dynamic. Yeah Right. Hundred percent. Very, good eight, four, four, two, zero, four, rich number dial will take a call in a second. You're taught running backs Clyde clydes Allaire was the best one of them all in terms of rushing yards. Look at Jacobs. We're welcoming back our radio audience here on the rich Eisen show were showing all the top running backs. Naim hines is going to have a little bit more to do. It. Right. Now can brown. Was the running back of choice last night in the red zone in the red zone. He moster nobody hits his goal posts on the opposing Gopro not hits his head on the opposing goal posts quite like him. He took that pass for eighty yards. I know for sure. So mayock didn't tell us anything injury was now nothing nothing nothing. But. He did say what Matt Nagy said it anybody who sits here and says, we're done with preseason football. We're not gonNA see it anymore that ain't going to happen. Because evaluators like mayock and evaluate is head coaches will be basically saying that we're we're not gonNA do that again. And he's interesting point that sounds like may I always talk about kids having opportunities in the NFL when he was sitting with me on a draft set like you when he would get irate that we would go back to the? Finger pointing had to announce the latest colts pick and he's ready to give the the kid who just gotten picked up in the draft his do. He would always get livid about that. Him basically saying he cut players they kind of liked who he never got to see tackle and a lot game. and. That's not fair as he said. Okay Chris Brockman. The final polls over there that you have if you don't mind what do you got for me yes. We're looking at the biggest shock from the sports Sunday had a couple NFL Games on there and nuggets forcing game seven. jags spoiling Philip Rivers Indianapolis to thirty seven Percent Nuggets Force game seven, thirty, two percent bears huge comeback win twenty five, percent Tom. Brady, says Bucks debut seven percent. There you go. Mike in Washington state I've got about a minute for you. What's up Mike. Hey, what's going on? How are you? Sir, what's up? Hey, I just really really really appreciate your knowledge on football. So I've kind question about the NFC west go forty Hawk like what with the seahawks Jamaa Adams obviously off by wagner saying and stuff like that. But like what did you see Kinda like last year we ran a three linebacker set now run a lot more safeties and we're kind of coming in there. We had a bunch of no names, not necessarily no names but I'm the nickle package just covering. What did you see where you could see were facing a really tough Atlanta teams. God. Bless you. got. To See the all twenty two of the game nor nor do I normally watch y'all twenty two I love that you. You're asking me such XS and Os on what I read and what I saw with my own two eyes when I was trying to keep an eye on that game because I was going against Matt Ryan and fantasy and I have decay metcalf I'm being straight honest with your I love that you call all twenty two and this is the responsibility that that it did look like they were doing a lot different. Stuff with Jamal Adams than anything that they have done in recent years and certainly it caught Atlanta a little bit on its heels because they would know Pete Carroll hasn't really changed his defense for anybody or anything. And you know you had Dan Quinn who knows that team and it did seem to be in. Thank you for the call. It did seem like they were caught a little bit unawares. And we will see you know Falcons had some banged up players and you've got also the fact that Jamal Adams is new there and they're just letting him go. The same way that that caused friction with the jets P. Carols like Atta. Boy. That's cold. What's called? Coach. And you know, Matt Ryan just racked up the arts and that thing was toast. The game is over the jail. Jello if you will was jiggling to use a famous phrase here in Los, Angeles? Nice. There was I say this evening, Sir Yeah what he got. I say the steelers and the Titans with the to Rhode teams though that that's just I. I'm still thinking the Broncos. As you know, the broncos were my where my they were my sleeper team I just cortlandt Sutton and von. Miller are if you had to choose one from each side of the ball, not named the quarterback out, that's who I would choose it would be very difficult for them to win without. It's tough to travel. As you just heard Kenyan saying I want to thank him Matt Nagy Chris Fowler and Mike Mayock Tomorrow Mike, Florio, Erin Andrews, and more as we talk about the Monday night game. Plural. But I really like the steelers tonight. And I need want to go off from my fantasy. Looking forward to drew lock. 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582. Mike Mayock on Challenges of Evaluating With No Preseason

"And now move the sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks. What's up? Everybody DJ Bucky back here move the sticks buck how you doing. Good. We're getting close like seasons around the corner we're seeing all these moves. Cut Weekend is coming. So everyone is getting down I think is beginning to really feel like the season's about the off and I'm excited about yeah it's great man we are. Knocking on the door of the regular season and it finally starting to feel like normal. But, now you're gonNA have kind of that final roster cutdown, which is something we see each and every year coleman the waiver wire. See if you can upgrade the back end of your roster, a lot of teams will be doing that without the convenience of having seen these guys in the in the pre season. This is a topic actually going to touch on with our guest today Mike Mayock, general manager, the Las Vegas. Raiders going to join US get a chance to talk to Mike about some of the unique challenges that you face this year and in this period of time. Trying to trying to build your roster, but it does doesn't it feel like what the start of the season is crazy as everything's been over the last six months in the world that? kind of normal right now, like we're kinda getting that build up. For first game. A do think it feels normal. What was weird DJ, without like having preseason games and so so many other things like my body clock is just thrown out of whack to think that is Labor Day weekend coming up I had no sense of all this weekend because we haven't gone through the normal things that we normally would go through and we go through all these preseason games we were talking about college football. We see some college football kind of bubbling up and filtering out, and because of that we we just are off and so it would be great to get back into our normal routine with the NFL season in games and just kind of. Getting. Back to yeah and I think I'm allowed to announce us we are going to. Crank out our three podcasts a week like we've done during the fall in the past. So that's coming in and included in that is going to be our takeaway podcasts, which we will do Monday morning. After we've had a chance to watch the tape, we'll bring in our buddy. Lewis going to join us on that. So we can give you our takeaways from the. From the weekend and then and we'll get you to more podcasts throughout the week. So we also video show that's coming. So lots of six content coming your way you lost lousy mood sticks out so it should be fun. It should be exciting Let me and I'm excited just to see football I'm excited to see it. I got excited last weekend just watching the college game so I can't I can't even. Begin to fathom what I'm feel like. These NFL Games next we can I WANNA tease by the way, a I actually talked to you showed you the what the picture looks like. We've got to have some move. The six t shirts are going to be available for people that people been asked about that for a long time. So we finally got together with one of our buddies who's put together shirt for us able to get one of those it ended up turned out pretty good. So excited about that, but I want to get your thoughts. But before we get to mayock about a couple things that took place recently with running back, we had one a big time extension for the bengals. Joe Mixon, we had one who was cut and then has since already been signed and Leonard Fournette going staying in the state of Florida going from the Jags to the bucks just to your thoughts on those two moves. Yes. Was Interested in the the Joe Mixing Live for net conversation is one that is probably unique in terms of when you go look at these guys like to run bax headed in opposite directions but when you look at their numbers to nearly identical. Joe Mason has twenty nine, hundred rushing yards Leonard. Fournette has a little over twenty five hundred both, F two thousand Euro seasons, and and when when you look at them, they were candidate engines of their respective offices at their place. I think the difference is when I look at dinner for net like going all the way back Dj and I think is important for evaluators to do this. So, much of what can trap US and get us in trouble is falling in love with the name and really not closely scrutinizing the game. It was really easy to fall in love with Leonard. fournette very early at Lsu, because his sophomore season was spectacular nine, thousand, nine, hundred yards, twenty, two touchdowns when you turned on the tape, you saw him just running through everybody. He was everything that you wanted to see as an old school down here running back. However injuries lower body injuries either get up really believed like they've kind of taken their toll into running back in the national football league is still one that is very solid. One that can be a starter. But when you take someone at number four, overall you looking for specialness you looking for like someone who has the secret sauce and I can say he was very good last year I don't care what the number eleven hundred. Yards rushing seventy six catches out of the backfield litter for knit improved on areas that people have talked about. But you still didn't get the special quality that you look for whereas when I look at Joe Mixing Joe Mixing to me is a prototypical three. Now running back to everybody wants he's big he's fast he's physical his elusive he runs with power. He catches the ball out of the Backfield to me he is the prototypical. Be One that you wanted today's game and I just think that it's interesting to see these guys because the number was say that they're very similar but what you to tape I. Think there are some differences into play. I've got a little formula here and I'm Gonna I'M GONNA. I'm giving this to you because I wanna see this in buddies notebook by the way every week checkout notebook, NFL dot com slash bucky Brooks it's the most comprehensive. It's the best thing that you can take to get you kind of a full full image of what's going on. In the football world so this is free of charge book. If we look at running backs in these two prisons. Okay. Let's start with as runners. I as a play caller I, get you this much. Now what are you get me? Okay. So I get you get me I get you four yards with the design of the play. You get me what you do after the yards. I gave you so that to me and again once we I lay this out in the run game. In the past game, we can start running running backs through this through this formula. So I get you you get me that's Formula One. Formula Two in the past game. Are you the last option or are you the first option So are is everything taken away and okay I can dump it off to Leonard Fournette, and he's GonNa give me my six yards because everything else has been taken away or my designing offense to put winner for out in the route, and that is my first option because that's what you do with Alvin Kamara that's what you do at. Christian McCaffrey that's what you do a job Nixon. That's not to me Leonard Fournette. So when I look at what happened four net, he's getting yards that we're giving him. He's not giving me a lot of extra based off of what he does on his own and then when the passing game yeah. He's a functional last option. He's not a first option. I'm not designing place Leonard Fournette, the passing game. No I think that is a great point and is one of those things that A. Couple years ago we entered. We interviewed to Real Davis Hall of fame running back from the Denver. broncos. We talked about that system and we were talking about the Shanahan system and he said look the Shannon hand system is great. I'm certainly a beneficiary but the difference between good and great NS system. The good as it gets you four is what you get after that point and when I look. At dinner for net, there's nothing that I see. Consistently we make someone miss he runs over somebody. He turns a four year game into a tenure again when I look at Joe Mixing all tape Joe Mixing routinely does that because he didn't play behind a great office a lot but his ability into whole stuff star quickness to elude evade sometimes overpower people it's shows up down. After down after down, and then what you said into passing game I think can't be understated. It is one thing to be the first option where you're cleaned aside and play ball because I know my running back and be your nickelback, your linebacker. It is another thing to make all your place of check downs. Linda for net is a check down option JOE MIXING IS A. Play maker in the passing game that is the difference, and that is something that goes beyond naked eye and beyond just studying the stats just think it's fascinating to me just because if you just take any running back and kind of put him through that formula, it cuts through WHO's blocking for it cuts through kind of who the play color is. They're just those guys. In the quarterback position, we've kind of we've nailed that down in terms of trucks and trailers. There's the trucks that pull the offense and there's a trailers to get pulled by the offense. You could still win with those. You can win with running backs you can win with the last option running back in the passing game. But man sure a lot more fun a lot easier to win when you've got first option running backs in the passing game he does and I will say this because if you are a last option passing game guy, you need to be someone that gets more as a runner so dirty. Derrick, Henry, that's why Eric is the event. If if I'm going to pay cool I noted Dirk is not going to give me anything in the passing game would then he needs to be a plus player in the running game, and so I'm willing to concede a we're not gonna be able to throw to him, but he is such a good runner that McKay being one. Dimensional because we have to be one-dimensional when he's in the Backfield Yep and that's exactly what I was thinking of when I was thinking about the difference between Leonard Fournette who got cut their Ken who got paid and the differences in that I call him as runners dare can get you a lot more than the plays designed and he just does and look I know some people are Gonna I've seen Leonard Fournette, pop an eighty yard run here there. Yeah. Those are those are outliers. He's had a couple of those big runs, but it's not it's ability to turn those threes and fours into tens and twelve and fifteen I haven't really seen that throughout his career. Because the game is really played in fifteen to twenty yard bucks, Dj like the guys that are able to chew of those templates, your runs, those especially ones because consistently they're able to help us move the chains and you're right we count on the office of line in the perimeter block is to be able to ensure that running back and get three to four years. After that, it's on, you re purposely people unblocked a Leonard to quarterback is your regal go dig out the safety is you want one on the corner we expect you to be able to knock down or to defeat a cornerback when you have opportunities if you're not unable to do those things. I mean, like you're not a special player and that's the difference special players able to do that and when you draft somebody number four overall I expect you do that because that's why we're taking otherwise one just followed the tree and and take another late round guy to plug him in because redraft the top five to be someone that is a difference maker, a high end player, the last visual I'll give you. The passing game portion of this as look there's you're going to go to lunch with a friend. You've got the guy who you call first that's you WanNa go with you have a nice time. He might even pick up the check at least we're going to go Dutch, and then by the time he does he can't go. Then you kind of work your way down you might get the fourth option. We're still going to go have lunch. You'll probably have a good time what my first choice. That's kind of the way. Look these running backs in the passing game. Yeah that's the way you look at it and I think the interesting thing and looking at the Tampa Bay buccaneers because Bruce. Arians has said it the store in job is Rojas Ron Jones job he he's going to be to start Shama McCoy there, and then you have litter for net. How does all of that Mesh together? How do you keep all of those guys engaged in happy and doing what it is that you want to do and when I go back and Look at Bruce Areas Office I haven't really seen him play much with the Dow. He'll sledgehammer running back. David Johnson who thrived under him was a guy that could do it in the past. gave us more of a first option player. So it's an interesting mix up to see how this goes and if areas and Brian lift which have the ability to package certain things to allow Tom. Brady and Linda for knit to be on the field and be successful in an office. That has synergy what you need Leonard Fournette to do. If you're the bucks as you need to go out there and get leads, and then he can be kind of your four minute back just just finish games out grind out the yards, eat the clock and let's get the heck out of here I mean to me that's that's going to be his most valuable role there for that group. Yeah. He has to be the legare blunt that Tom Brady played with in new. England a lot in ace two tight ends. ARE WE GONNA wind up in our goal line sets and we're GONNA kind run the game out because Tom Brady is very good. I'll play action. It is a way that they were able to manufacture production for him in New England We'll just see if Leonard Fournette is right fit and if the buccaneers have the office of line to be able to do what it is that it may be envisioning when it comes on. See I'm interested to see how that will come together. I'm just excited about I. Don't know about you. I'm so sick of previewing I can't wait to review. Let's watch some games. Let's watch some tape sue WHO's playing well, and then actually have some concrete analysis instead of we think this might happen. This could happen like let's actually see these guys on the grass and get a chance to talk about and it's right around the corner man? I'm about with speculation I'm ready to to do some real evaluation data is. What is it a little less compensation little ranch that's where we're headed. That's where we're headed I want anymore. All right. Let's get to our conversation. We had with Mike Mayock the general manager of the LAS. Vegas. Raiders out a phenomenal job in his first draft. Excited to see his second draft class on the field this year to see how they come together led by Henry Rugs. But it was a great chance to catch up with Mike and really kind of go through the challenges of of. Running team during a pandemic where you don't have OTAS and off season and preseason games, all those different things it was great to catch up with him. So here's conversation with with the raiders. General Manager Mike Mayock. Bike first of all, how you doing. We're hanging in there. It's different kind of world and I'm very appreciative to number one have job and number two to say my my family's healthy. So I think you have to start right care. Yeah. We look at what's going on Mike. I this is there's no. There's no training manual for for what you've been through as a young general manager when you looking at going through pandemic and the now what's going on in the country and what's going on in the sports world I'm just curious who who you've You've drawn farmer who relied on trying to trying to figure this thing out. There's a couple of things, DJ number one, the message basically from after the combine when we're told to go home. was as much as. Most people in the football world don't like change. We've done certain things for honor ears in football. But the message I had to my scouts in continue to have is embrace change. Let's figure it out. We'll even know for our scouts are going to be allowed on the road this fall at this point in I in every single day, we talk about it's uncomfortable, but you got to embrace it and you gotta figure out ways to get your job done, and there are no excuses in as long as all thirty two teams are. Under the same sets of rules we're full we're fine with it. Let's go. You know that's all that really matters to me is the competitive equity and the other thing is in other some guys around the league that I trust lank and maybe we're not playing them this year and we get on Wigan on the call and just talk what are you doing how you doing it? Is there a better way to to figure this thing out? A little bit of that network also. You might because is such a different training camp and preseason agreeing drink gamp no preseason games. How are you guys trying to determine who? The best fifty three, fifty, five guys on the team when you really not able to see them game like situations and Buck I think that's probably the best question. In today's environment in you know when you start talking about the generic conversation of what do preseason games really mean for NFL teams and you know you need four and what we're feeling right now and what all the people around the league that I'm talking with are feeling right now is it's not just about the rookies in the College Asians about some of those first and second year guys that you've tried to develop within your building that haven't had the benefit now of an off season and you're hoping about the take a step forward and he can't watch him cover a kick off or a punt. And I've got this thing in my head I always call the go Nogo Syndrome. Some guys go guys when you covered off, there's a certain point where. Inside you're either going. Going, yes or guy, and we want go guys and it's harder to figure out. Go guys. Unless you're willing to replicate that outra practice field and I think one of the things that codes Gruden has been great with over the last week is just the conversation with me about what do you need to see? Who Do you need to see Alcan? We put them in situation so we can evaluate them better and I think John and the coaching staff have been awesome. Just trying to orchestrate situation so we can evaluate. I'm curious Mike Talk about evaluate your own team. This is the time of year, normally evaluate the back end of other roster. So what is the process like this year when you don't have access to see them live game action outside of what may pop up on social media or what is he made post? It. You really got to trust your your scouts evaluations in reports, and what happens is that more than ever the Collagen the pro side or melted together during this training camp you know usually bring the college guys get extra is during games. Let them right across check report. At this point. We've what we're trying to do is filter in all of our programs on guys that have been in the league. College Grays on guys that haven't been in the league and how you stack up what you're really talking about is the bottom end of your roster, but we all know how important that is. So we're spending an awful lot of time trying to get the right stack right filter were forcing our college pro guys the to Meld together on zoom calls and I'm real happy with the way we're stacking things up and. You. Know you get to the five three and who knows what's going to happen but you better have. A confirmation in your head of if somebody comes available, we're GonNa take you don't Mike I I love talking to you because I know you son of a high school coach and I just wonder if some of Your Dad's expertise in terms of building a team from his high school days because you don't have all the luxuries and you have to figure it out and be adaptable. I wonder if some of those lessons that you learn from him have helped, you adjust to being able to put together a team doing the pandemic, which is unlike anything we've ever seen. That's a cool question in. I M, my father son and. You know I've played quarterback and safety in honor and everything else for him for four years in two things. I would take away from my dad I think to this day one is we were a small school. Okay and every almost everybody played both ways in we didn't have time. To get guys in freshman program in a JV program by junior year like big school mentality you know they're ready to go if a kid could play as a freshman or sophomore my dad was throwing his right in there. Let's go in. That's kind of way I feel about young guys in this league don't WanNa roll them. You don't want to put them in bad situations, but I want to trust that we did a good job scouting them in I wanna fromm in situations where we get a chance for them to. Compete early, and that's important today salary cap world. You've got to continue to churn roster and bring young guys in your trust. You know that's number one and the second thing is just what my dad has told me since I was about twenty five years old trust your I got a good i. you know you follow me around everywhere every minute of every day while you were growing up, you've watched high school you've watched college watch NFL at the end of the day if you're gonNA make a mistake making your mistake. In I think that's really good advice. When you talk about throwing young guys on the field, you got a couple young receivers. You just drafted the house excited about when you got him and it seems by all accounts that they're they're doing really well, what what have you seen this far from from rugs in Edwards on on the practice field. Dj It's kind of a two edged sword here. Okay. On one side were knock on wood. We feel like we are who they hoped. We hoped they would be. Flying around Nick Sabin. Told me point blank you don't you're not gonNA have a kid work harder. He comes to practice every day with a walk on mentality and he's tough. He's been at gonorrhea jammer. We've seen all that. We embrace that with words really good hands. Better Outrun people understand tough as nails throw the Alabama table and if you WANNA question anybody's toughness. But what I'm trying to tell them end all our local press and everybody else's is you know what they haven't gotten off press wants a game. They they haven't done anything yet. We're. We're going to sit there and anoint them. And we're GONNA make them work for everything we're cautiously optimistic but at the end of the day, all the rookies in my mind haven't done anything yet and we gotta to be real careful about Pat Boone on on Bob saying. You know it's funny because when you talk about those wide receivers, your quarterback Derek Carr has been really a few minutes phrase. But when I look at the quarterback position understand the value you have we've had these conversations about the informs you have to really good quarterbacks in that room and even though Derek the starter you've invested in terms of developing markets. Mario. Why was it so important for you guys to really have multiple quarterbacks that can play in this league and why are you so committed to developing both guys? I think if you want to be a good football team, there's an argument to we made that you're only as good as your backup quarterback. You're one snap away in you're putting everybody at risk if there's a drastic reduction in talent. Putting the whole franchise at risk. So we are believers endure are we've we think dirks taken another step with John? This year I love what he did with her in the off season. He had anywhere from fifteen to forty guys working out with them. Almost every day we had a big group of guys in Vegas and I think. What's important to me as a kind of confirmed who Derek is on our team that all these guys are flying in from around the country to work out together and I'm talking about offense and defense dirk was orchestrating seven on seven in. In the off season immature carris in that breeds a a certain confidence in Camaraderie that you guys are both familiar with. and. So I feel like Dirks taking that next step and I wanted to see. In we also felt like John and I had a of with Marcus Mariota because what we did when we were both in television, we had him ranked in all the reps and time we spent with him. So we kind of felt like he brings a little bit different style to the table. You know he's a little bit more of a guy can use his legs. Around you can run different zone read stuff with them. So you can do different things with with Marcus. So we kind of feel like not only we're getting quality guy come in and play dark it's hurt but he also brings a different dimension to our offense. Selfish Question Mike How's my Guy Jonathan Abram doing? I. Think he's chomping at the bit as you would expect. And I think that he he needs to become a really good football player for us this year and we're counting on. You know my most championship teams are built on, win the division I. Then worry about the other stuff when you built your team do you feel like you're close to build a team that can compete and contend with entertainment a division? Well I mean that's a veiled reference to the world. Champ. They're pretty good. You know we all us? No they're pretty darn good and we we recognize that and I. I'm not giving out any secrets when when I tell you. Our goal was to get faster and more athletic on both sides of the ball over the last couple of years and I think we have now whether or not we've closed any gaps on anybody. What I everybody in our building were seven nine. Four last year. We should be chirping about anything else of getting better winning every frigging snap win win winning every meeting get a tiny bit better. Make it a force multiplier by the end of the season and you know back when we go down a player old team in Carolina will find Alabama were about ourselves on September thirteenth but I don't know anything beyond that. Mike is the last question. I'll let you run the most important question How many how many buffets have you hidden Vegas since you've moved back? Whenever you tell me their. Question I. Be Honest with you I know how to get from my rental to the facility. Back The answer is zero and more importantly. You you're out of there in time to get to your teatime Daniel because it sound well, your work ethic is gone into. Well well, the unfortunately, it's my golf game that's gone in the pooper that that's that's the problem is I got to get out there today I'm Repertoire Guy Charles Davis today with with the Tennessee ball's t shirt. But I don't want that on the Gulf growth because I want to get laughed at case anybody watches football so. You need to put a collar on that if. You. Don't know the golf courses that I play that Mike. Hey man it's. It's great to catch up looking forward to seeing you this fall when when the raiders come out to Los Angeles. We'll catch up soon appreciate you a stay healthy with your families and it's always great to catch up. Good. Luck guys. Mubarak is great to catch up with Mike. That's That's a tough job in a normal year. I can't imagine the stress that comes along with trying to navigate through this entire pandemic that we've been in the middle of an as well as what's going on in the world from social social justice standpoint. I mean that is a lot to handle as leader does a Lotta Hannah's leader, but you know what I feel like He. Finally settled into the job, he certainly feels like he has command over the job and he has a clear vision for how he wants to operate as a general manager and that has been laid out in his ability to give direction to a scouse, his ability to kind of make some of these picks. Obviously, he's having to do it in conjunction with working with Jon. GRUDEN. But I, feel like this team Canada has his his his his stamp of approval. Meaning the things that used to theorize and talk about when we all work together I kind of believe, I see with the raiders and so is good to see people really stick to their guns when it comes to visit for how football should be played when you begin to see their team reflective vision. That is when you see good things happen. Yeah. Again, you don't WanNa make somebody else's mistakes you WanNa make mistakes. So you have a vision what what You want to look go on execute that, and then whatever happens happens I think he's done that do want to remind everybody inspired by the ongoing conversations with players. NFL. has launched the NFL votes to empower improve our communities through exercising the right to vote join the NFL family by registering to vote today and make your voice heard this November visit nfl dot com slash votes to learn more also on reminds you that the hard knocks podcast hosted by our Buddy, Peter Schrager you can catch the final episode of hard knocks TV show that is Tuesday September eighth at ten PM Eastern on Hbo Shrugs, Wonderful Job. With that podcast, get some great guests on there to kind of recap what's going on with the charges in with the rams as well as some other football insight there from our buddy pete. So you can find that wherever you listen to podcasts. Any other thoughts here buck for this thing up numb in. Dj, we're just one step closer one step closer to the regular season kicking off I am excited and looking forward to next week the I did see on Apple podcast we are getting close to I think two thousand. Reviews or ranking rating something on there. There's a milestone out there so I want to thank everybody that's done that for us that's gone and left us a review or rating on Apple podcasts and Again, let us know some ideas. You might have what we can do to serve you guys better and let us know again who the best high school football. Player you've ever seen. We got some great names on their need to update that we'll do that next week we'll update that high school players but I want to thank everybody for that. All right. That's GONNA do for us. Thank you guys so much for hanging with us He's Bucky Brooks I'm Donald Jeremiah. See next time right here on move the sticks.

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Mornings with Keyshawn, LZ and Travis (HR 3)

Mornings with Keyshawn, Jorge & LZ

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Mornings with Keyshawn, LZ and Travis (HR 3)

"Hi guys shouts out to a very loyal listener on twitter t- matt's just gave birth to a new well. He didn't play off somebody else who -gratulations on his new baby girl grace mccray how the picture i did not see the congratulations yeah listener great kids kids start. Em young gasoline. Adorable always throws me for a loop when i see babies with hair because my babies were all bald until they were like three years old whenever i see <music> owner i'm just looking at you. Well how it goes man. It is what it is what it is. It is been a rough maurice of seven fifty five key. Stop short sixty degrees downtown cloudy high eighty two going to cool off. Just a tad rosenhaus is doing going. It is a national snuff on national oy coming from these guys national aviation day headline presented by sprint where i sure hope he's okay. Let's just keep talking over the sponsor keys. Headline presented by sprint uh-huh cockatiel do cockatoo to see if i can get this right here. 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She wasn't excited about having triplets potentially but the yeah no that was taken to the hospital up. She knew come on our show. Please call in pretty no. Let's you say to our female now. Listeners please call and let us. Maybe it's like when you have you hear a noise in your car and you know something's wrong but you just kind of ignoring it and just you know just fixes itself or you know something not as you know i i dated but at that point if you just ignore a rattled in your engine and your engine you got to buy a new car. Get it fixed with this. People show up. It's a little different. It's a little different. They just said i hope that rattled goes away and then you know what i need a new transmission in this isn't who i got three people. I gotta take care. I must be in and if you have triplets. I mean you would think that the stomach will look like chris. Sometimes it doesn't apparently chris pregnant treatment. Now it just twins. I think let me you know we we. Do you know the age of the starting <hes> yes i did. I did i i well and because if she's a young woman then maybe she just didn't really want to have to tell tell everybody that she's pregnant can be concealed. No we do not know the age of the young lady it unless she was doing her instagram pictures just gut which happens salah yeah that was key headline in the morning and you're listening to k s._p._n. Los angeles good luck to her and her triplets. Here's mike mayock talking talking about the latest with antonio brown. Y'all know that a. b. Not here today so here's the bottomline he's upset about the helmet issue. We have supported that we appreciate that at this point. We've pretty much exhausted all avenues of relief so from our perspective. It's time for him to be all in. We're all out so that's mike mayock raider general manager acting on the orders of jon gruden presumably because this is really key the first time we've heard mike mayock talk and he's out there with just out and saying hey you know you're either all with us or you're in or you're out there. The part that was never said was or else and until there's an or else else. I'm really not that interested in the pasta e so you know i don't know about him. <hes> he's one of those guys that that really makes me believe he knows nothing the thing about football like he just it's like he was on the n._f._l. Network for longtime he did. The drafi caught a few games but in all honesty. I really believe like he doesn't know a lot about football. Everything is acting act to him. You know he's he's a character of himself like he wants you to believe that he's such a football expert and i'm my chest is out with a dark glasses emma. We're all air all out. Look here's the deal man you traded for. You gave up a third round. Pick in the fifth round pick which essentially equates to if you do the math is probably amid second too late second round pick between the two okay on the card with that being said. I'm not so sure that the raiders raiders wouldn't part ways with a._b. At some point in time <hes> if they're if they could get some money back they could snap their fingers. They undo this in heartbe in a heartbeat because the one thing the one thing that i could tell you gruden didn't sign up for if you go back remember. I told you it was going to be good in the beginning. Everybody really got into the marine areas hug at the press conference and everybody's going media was good man something going to go wrong whether it was going to be a b- or whether it was gonna be gruesome <hes> but eventually it will start to affect some of the other players that start to see a bolt on a positive and a negative side because other players will start to see okay. This is what we gotta. Do we gotta. We gotta treat this type away and they're gonna cave in or other. Players will be like meh yeah. I don't wanna do 'cause they. They don't get that money for me just like they got from a. b. so so it's not a win win for him. It's not a win win for the raiders. I just believe that the raiders at the end of the day are going to try to figure out between the n._f._l. P._a. and the n._f._l. How they can go back back. If in fact this continues on getting money back because remember they gave him thirty seven million dollars of guaranteed money. They didn't give it to him today you the way you're gonna have to wait. You don't start really getting checks. They might have gave him. I think they might be giving him some sort of signing bonus. I'm not entrepreneur but they can always go back and get the signing bonus. This protection texas clauses that are in the contract and four for forfeiture language. That's their. That's what people fight for to get that stuff removed but it's probably in his contract. They're gonna look to get some of it back if he nats why he's kinda giving him this in or out hard deadline kind of you know if he's around bye week one we'll see because they already they already working behind the scenes to figure out how to get someone at guam back if not all of the part of this that is just so stupid to me just and there's really no other word for it. It's just stupid is that this is over a helmet issue that we saw coming a mile away like i get what ezekiel elliott's doing. Ezekiel really wants more. Money wants guaranteed. Money wants to get paid. He's holding out there in a contract but i didn't see i didn't see the helmet issue coming a mile away. The know what i'm saying that we would see the helmet issue. She coming awhile. Antonio brown knew that this helmet issue was that there was going to be a ban on his helmet. He knew that that was coming. The n._f._l. Didn't show up a week ago and said <music>. Oh by the way bad news guys these helmets javelin. These are no longer legal. They've had this out there for the better part of the year and this is the hill that he's decided diane. It's just let's see i don't know i don't know that and i said this the other day and i'll say i keep saying i don't know i said the stephen a. I don't know that antonio antonio knew that this helmet issue is going to come up. I agree with you even even if even if it was something that was toll posted several years. You're checked out when you're away from the facility. You're not going into the facility every day or every other the other day every week every month asking about your helmet. You're just not gonna doing that when you show up. Your equipment is in your locker because equipment managers have put it in locker. I have swapped out his helmet. He walked in. He looked at it where to go and he was like. I don't know where it is. I get it key and i get stuff like that can fall through the cracks i completely understand and but when it's been a year when you've been going on as long as this has been going on in every other places we've we heard about tom. Brady like in the new helmet weeks ago months ago last season. They were going to have to face these things out. I get that you could miss it. You miss the notice on the wall. You could miss. I'm assuming the players association. Send you guys male. They don't even even i shred. I get it but when it's all of those things over a year if you missed it. That's your problem raiders problem. It's nothing as promised your no it is it is something that is a problem. There's a lot of things that you miss because you're not interested or you. Just don't pay attention. There's things that the n._f._l. P._a. the the n._f._l. They sent to you all day long. Look at going to talk this the same stuff. You don't really dig into it. I'm sure they're posting theme. They posted stuff on the boards near the locker room. Hey this you can't wear anymore. These helmets on this'll be gone. I'm sure i'm one hundred percent sure but at the same time a guy a._b._c.'s isn't paying any attention to one of the things that he should have deal when he arrived in a switched the helmet he just put it onto. They could fix it and try to figure it out. Not i'm so mad. I'm gonna take my ball and go home. I mean come on man like enough's enough now being big defender of us okay. I believe he's a football player. I believe that at times he's misled by drew rosenhaus. They kind of let him do they what he wants to do. I've seen it for years. Would you rose his clients. He allows him just run wild and they do what they want to because at the end of the day he's gonna chew him up. Spit them out and keep it moving to the next guy so i completely understand that. All i'm saying is the do she just put the hell. No no go out there and play figure it out and if it doesn't work out that's what it's going to be. You have to play with the helmet thing that you brought up that. I think is the reoccur entertainment is that you know job is to do a lot and not just negotiated contract and then walk away wants to satisfy collecting checks so so if you know a. b. and i'm assuming he does the you know what his propensity for details and because of that you know that he wasn't paying attention to anything signal walls. You should have been having these conversations with your client. You should have been having these conversations you had him. Conversations your plan. If you don't know so you're saying drew didn't there. There's two people because honestly though i wouldn't know i wouldn't know because i'm not a equipment wise is you're not paying attention to them saying you can't wear certain helmet to his brought to your attention now. The difference between me and him is a beta brought it to my teacher to say out loud. You can't wear anymore and then i'd have been like got this close to okay cool out of kept moving because it's not that deep to sitting getting arale. It's an injury waiting to happen. Oh my god his safety is safety that i come on man you had the same him no. When you got hit by perfect you wind up having a concussion or whatever you claim you know it was a whole thing us going to lay out and they had to bring in amulets at all around the screen dan that you know you're an athlete and you're very focused in on the craft at hand. You may not see these insularity items of larry but the team has an equipment equipment manager the you have people like me. You're not listening. No no no no. I'm listening to you but i'm saying that the blaine being there space for blamed for a lot of people beyond just antonio brown when maria sharapova suspended using those drugs code food the players. This drug is going to be banned a good year in advance and so she's going like. I don't know dry moment. It's two different things. The point is that you told me it was a there was a year ago head and if you know if you told me if you told uh-huh that the drug was banned i hit that's different but if you told me years posted on the wall that the drug is gonna be banned and they'll see you. I'm telling you right. I mail as somebody has been inside a locker rooms walking up and down the hallways. You're not reading this stuff on the board. I got you you just not. I got shaking. Posts allstate post this stuff up there for their own protect. She i know damn well. The players ain't stopping about a bore looking. I suppose re this. They're not doing the players association which signed off on these rule changes needs to i if their membership is so derelict in not far like their senator layer then it's up to them to go literally go and put a hand on every player shoulder and say hey you this helmet not gonna work next year you you just say i didn't know and then kick up your heels and go crazy like antonio brown and co. It's not a viable excuse coach i understand you won't fill players association and put the hand on every player and tell them about this other. Excuse accuse me. Everybody see that's funny. You want everybody to listen to you when you put your hand on the show but at the same aim time they don't know the player doesn't know and doesn't understand that they're getting ready to change your specific helmet and give you some a new into you. Walk into the locker room and you see it. They don't know they just don't we'll. Keyshawn finally have enough the bids and find out next on the morning show but i want to say one thing to the american people. I want you to listen to me. I'm going to say say this again. I did not have sexual relations with that woman to bill's greatest hits the arsenio appearance in the it depends on what your definition of is good. Now you happy birthday to president clinton who turns seventy three years old friend of yours right. Yes clock here really talk about saxophone. No i just couldn't laugh at the bit. That's a bit. He knew he did it but i you know but anyway so damn smooth. He's have you ever met him. I had not had the pleasure of you talked to him. For like ten minutes walk away by gora alarms. Don't ooh don't believe present remember when he showed up on our city on the whole country was shocked that he could actually do something right. Yeah you can play an instrument government. While that's amazing up until that point we hadn't had any musically inclined present. Notre think no that is true. President bill clinton seventy three years old today's days birthday is brought to you by jaguar land rover newport beach off to seventy three or visit land rover newport beach dot com land rover above and beyond but see. I knew i was a cool friend. Here's though when my mom passed away and he sent a hand written letter out of nowhere to me that's when i knew i'm like yeah. Okay mess with us but i use some other words in front of myth story. Here's the first black president right. That was the old. Let me tell you something. There was an all star game in atlanta than i was covering. He went into the players sociation party. You would have thought he was jordan type. It's like the players might go. Shoot bill could ask you this booklet and he was already out of office. He was god as well shoot. Oh shoot man bill right there. He was cool as as you say. What else do you do that look. That's you you surprise us to change it up. All right now. One is new so last week. You did thirty two through twenty five. Who do you have a number twenty. Four at number twenty four hour will say it's the washington redskins quattro so i think when i look at them the quarterback situation co mccoy's toys now injured looks like case keenum will be the starter here going forward wayne haskins up and down a drought him as a rookie to take over he to at some point ojeda me too starting quarterback for the redskins in the middle of the year. I predict why not put them in their week. One i mean case keenum is not the answer to your problem yeah but you such self up for immediate failure. Oh you're if you put it away and haskins in and he just gets a now later because trent williams. The left. Tackle is not even camp. He wants more money. I was watching a game the other night. They were running around that do the whoever the left tackle was they were just racing around him couldn't play dead and a cowboy movie could play dan the cowboy movie number twenty three zero wiki. He wouldn't throw rice at a win number twenty three writing so light and stuff they do okay. I gotta ask do you come up with these or you. Just repeating things that you've heard other pizza. I've come up with is the number twenty three. Yes san francisco forty nine san francisco forty niners of sold us on a big big hype about jimmy garoppolo what they're able to do. I think that they bit off more than they were willing to chew. They didn't know that until now. I know he's coming back off an a._c._o. Injury but he just doesn't stay all seem like a team. That's going to get out of their own way. I don't i don't see any success happening for the forty niners anytime soon we talk about dak prescott getting a new deal or wanting to do deal and all the jarod goff is gonna be up next carson. Wentz just got paid but why did they pay jimmy garoppolo when they did because jimmy garoppolo resume is what eight nine games. Why did they pay him like that key. Why does he get treatment like that. Well because you you you wanna seem smart john lynch first time general manager was convinced that that this this was the guy he got bamboozled by the new england patriots and then shanahan obviously oh i can fix anybody quarterback guy blah blah but when you look at it as as i've always said you have matt ryan and julio jones the willie in joe's not the xs and os a lotta times coaches they could take the xs and os and go anywhere new will be successful well. That's not true in when you were in washington. Which a dad you had a young robert griffin. That was healthy. That was exciting and did some stuff so if you i really wanna break now shanahan. What has he really done. You have matt ryan who was already a made man in atlanta very good at the position at quarterback so mike like come on now number twenty to number twenty two no matter twenty two of the tennessee titans swap them out. You could swap shut up. You could swap out yeah because i knew he was going to say for real 'cause when i wrote it down but you can swap walk them out for any. You know you start playing around you. Go in tennessee washington san francisco you can kind of do a little bit of this and that but at least at at least <hes> marielle mario lead them into the playoffs to win so you don't know this can be a bounceback year for him although i watching the other day and he was dribbling balls at his feet and i was like ooh was pushing the ball ooh but this is not their style. They're going to be a run heavy team and they're gonna play defense and that's ass with rebel wants to do so to sit them where they're at alyce. That is really that bad. It seems really low. It just seems really high night. That seems low to me. No that's what i think you guys are both saying the same thing but just using award for you think you're better right. You think they're a better team than where they're ranked a salad. I think that's where they should be ranked. You've never been mariota guy. Have you know why would you yeah what does he do. You wanna heisman gets hurt a lot college. Football twenty one komo twenty one would be jacksonville jaggi warriors okay jacksonville. Jags nick foles if they can get some respect. That's why he's a super bowl m._v._p. Play stop trick play. You don't really philly philly philly philly philly as messed up. You wanna super bowl ring. Stop doing it. Don't don't drink. I know quarterbacks bolan. I think this is the type of team much. I like tennessee is a mirror image of each other play bully ball goran with four net allow nick foles run screens and dinka dunks you know chuck and duck into going to play solid alad defense and if they can come back to form away where two years ago in he can kind of just be nice manager and they run the football then i think they have an opportunity to chance within the division but the houston texas i'm going to go anywhere and it depends on what andrew luck does in if he's even coming back and winning comes back though offense to be a little better with marquees liebeck liebeck. Mark is because he coming back off an a._c._l. So you still got to wait to see numbers in markey's lee is not a frontline. Why are we seeing any n._f._l. Fail he is more of a two and a half to three number twenty. The tampa bay buccaneers thing in the temple. Buchan ears is only at this level because bruce airings the again. They got the same sort of issues that the tennessee titans have and quarterbacks spot. You don't really know what long-term jameis winston is is going to be but i believe heavily in the offense of mine. The mindset of bruce arians i i really do i think he's done a terrific job with quarterbacks and a pass of gotten him to respond gotten him to play better. I mean you just think about he went to arizona. They were playing pretty good when he was a coordinated and win the super bowl in pittsburgh pretty good indianapolis took over chuck modiano pretty good so everything is in his favor in showing meat and he's the type of coach they could get guys respond in play well plus todd bowles fits back at his natural position as a coordinator in not as a head coach for the buccaneers endowment consumers will be abound back player in the n._f._l. This year if it doesn't isn't happened this year for tampa for james winston in particular is that the end of the line for james because of all the reasons you just said with areas that winter winter winter winter winter and if all of a sudden it's not they're not gonna say well. Bruce zarian doesn't know what he's doing. They're going to say james. Winstons is not that guy. It depends on what james looks like. Jameis winston is a sixty sixty two percent completion percentage and he has thirty touchdowns the nine interceptions then it works but if it's reversed in all of a sudden he's a thirty seven percent completion percentages in twenty five interceptions interceptions twenty five touchdowns. He'll be out of tampa bay before the season even ins keys power rankings this week brought to you by asking drew rosenhaus how he's doing drew good morning. How are you good morning to be on with. You guys one andrew. How are you doing wow early in the morning. Andrew good yeah yeah you know working hard keyshawn on <hes>. Who did he's on really want to do a morning. Show with the answer could startle you next nightmare on elm street forwarded you know although yeah no. I take off mansor. There's a million of all of those kerala weaned friday the thirteenth elm street. This one was called the dream master. Let me guess freddy with the glove got some people. That's the switch and they had this song from it. Okay all right. This doesn't seem horror. Movie ish eighty different little girl in a room with a headset on listening to music can hear other people getting slaughtered next door slave uh-huh and then hunter pops into the scene fred dryer for no reason. I've story for you on that. <hes> first off thirty one years ago nightmare on elm street four was indicators miss that one. I remember seeing that one either freddie cougar bad guy but i didn't get to the fourth installment. I went three d. Yeah yeah no all right at work here carlo card carlo it s good morning. America looks like carlo so nobody carlos is one of our social media yes. He really knows but i just you know get them confused with someone else that works here all right then so demarcus cousins is down torn a._c._l. Bad news for him. Also bad news for the lakers. Lakers need to replace his spot. They need a big. They need to go into the free agent. The trade market whatever it is and the fact of the matter is it's a pretty thin field of available players in the guy the guy at the top of that list potentially a guy that the lakers are at least quote unquote doing their due diligence on is is dwight howard. I get shoulders. Dwight's name is it's going to cause a visceral reaction for most people and it's usually negative because dwight's tenure and you're here did not go well for variety of reasons but i'll be honest when you see what's out there and knowing what you know about what the lakers need to replace demarcus cousins i think dwight howard is probably the first person you try. I'm not saying you sign him up long-term but bring 'em in honestly though dog what's wrong with the way he's only good anymore anymore but not any good at the level in which you signed him to seven years ago. He's not that dwight but he certainly you can argue guy has averaged thirteen points nine rebounds and i believe over the life of his career. He's always been a tizzy now do and when i say that he's not any good any more what i'm talking about. He's not any good anymore anymore if he's going to bring in what he brings in it. It's not what you to draw is not worth the squeeze what he brought him but it hasn't gone away whether it was gone away when it's been in l._a. Or or houston or atlanta or washington or any of the stops that he's had post l._a. It takes about four seconds before the locker room has has has he but has he ever play play with anybody. The caliber and i'm talking about not just basketball <hes> play on the court but in terms of i q you in terms of not necessarily control but willing to work with guys like that i was he ever play with anybody like this. This kobe not fit that bill kobe doesn't fit that bill because the team was about kobe in kobe fits that bill about all the i._q. And this and that and one of the greatest of all time but it was about kobe. It wasn't about the lakers attain. Kobe wanted to sit down. Sit down and talk to you either. Do it this way not dog. It's up to you you either. Go jump on board or not you soft. You can't take that approach. You gotta know how to communicate which teammates clearly koby couldn't communique. Hey wouldn't even made certain type of away where i believe lebron james rondo just some of these veteran guys you look at that and you say we'll they. They know how to handle it and deal with it. That's assuming dwight wants to listen listen. I think he does he show up in l._a. Awful lot not gonna be here he does. This is a great spot for him but he's my number two option. You guys know. I feel that you'll kino's should be number. Oh here we go from from a skill set perspective like he's not the rebound dwight howard is and he's not the rim protected dwight howard is but he knows how to slide his feet. He's has intelligence spatial intelligence the spatial side of it he knows that space the floor and oh by the way if he is outside the paint he's still has to be account for because he's still can hit a little mid range jumper salsa all of a sudden now he can pass my high or you can hit open shot that makes it just a little bit more difficult for teams to plan for easy eze free free with technically unclear member of the grizzlies but the girls not him no came. No joking knows as well. Oh he's thinking we're still waiting for them to write him out. A release ms well okay so they've been given the green light to seek employment elsewhere so i think they're good either with either one of those two players before my money i think for what they need skill set wise jokinen keen fist his team a little bit better but the way if he's willing to do screen and rosalie offensive and he has to be jokey. Marty has a place here does he. I just feel feel like i'm ready to run him. A couple of times ran into him a couple of that he trains here. Okay santa barbara. He hangs out in santa barbara lot and there's a training facility so it's there that i've seen a lot of n._b._a. Players go in and out of okay so maybe that's what you're referring to. Why don't we put up a poll. Let's see what the people think. I think valid points on both big. Is your heating or you. Take <hes> dwight well. I've got a poll last week on this conversation just dwight alone and it was it's like a he knew a sneaky polls on e._s._p._n. Los angeles not sneaky. He didn't tell us it was sneaky. Community says he's being us down. Don't go down this path alert. He says well whether it's a sneaky poll or a regular poll by buffalo wild wings. It's called happy hour for reasons to buffalo wild wings now for three to five dollars all day deals. So what are you waiting for. Get here and get happy. Buffalo wild wings can rajin chris actually stay stay quiet for an entire segment. The answer is only minutes away on the morning show so travis yes i am. I non sneaky poll. I literally tacky los angeles gay to your question about dwight howard sixty. Five percent of the respondents says oh hell no and thirty five percents said do it. I think that'll change it be if dwight comes in and chill and because the expectations of what before when he came here the first time the expectation was be one of the best players. There's an league. That's not the expectation anymore. Expectation is be a complementary piece and if he'll wrap his head around that i think people get bored you subpoena lead singer kingston backup well. It's not easy vince carter. Did it is true but go ahead name me another one. I would say yeah. It's not a whole lot of vince carter's. No look. I i get parts to. I don't think you have to go out and sign these guys too big dollars long to just bring them in see what happens if it if it doesn't work there's no downside ride and there are other guys as kenneth reid who else stills able body not as skilled as the other two still got that energy but he's still got the energy <hes> but he's not a skilled field and he's undersized and he's under the boogie and dwight and noah are seven footers right right and that that is a thing yeah you either are you aren't right and farid isn't right but he's got the energy bounce deal so it'd be interesting to see what direction to go in. It's one of those things it's it's not a fatal blow for the lakers. It's not even a mortal wound. It's just it's it's <hes> and now we're a little thinner and now the team has a little smaller smaller margin of error. There's a little less cushion on any given night of somebody who can get it done like lebron's going to get it done most of the time on the nights that he doesn't anthony davis will the chances of both other than being bad all right. You got coups so there are some layers of secure through this but now you have one less right there but the thing is that you're right. It's not a fatal wound up a broken leg but it's a tweet ankle so bothers me yeah and you know i i i ki- so we had a whole bunch games week. Two of the preseason <hes> wraps up tonight. There's a monday night football game but go but keep looking at minnesota last night. We talked about that hit that <hes> paxton lynch took and that's kind of the thing that jumps out but minnesota twenty five nineteen over the seahawks and i wonder if this is this this season that we get that vikings team that we thought we were gonna get last season because coming in when they went to that n._f._c. championship game or actually it wasn't that crazy easy play where it gets knocked around. This is the team that's coming along where they scored that touchdown the walk off about the saints the saints game divisional <hes> divisional asian around to go visit championship game. The vikings came in the last season as hey. You know what that's gonna be. A really good team never really happened for them. Is it going to happen this year. I it is <hes>. They got down a lot of injuries to to their team last year in just never really got in sync. They had a new office a coordinated from saying his name right down felipe leap filippo or whatever it is he was the offense coordinator that was never that was never on even ground they lose longtime assistant <hes> <hes> tony soprano they lose him. You know in the middle of the beginning of the season they lost him. Longtime assistant passed away so they had like a little bit of turmoil. I would say within the organization but i believe i believe second time around kirk cousins looking at kirk cousins numbers numbers were not bad. He was sixty eight percent completion percentage pitch. He threw like twenty. Let's say like twenty eight touchdowns like ten interceptions. He came for forty five hundred yards but it just he never really hit you say kick keenum cousins cousins. You say okay yeah. He never hit the way that he was supposed to think. Dalvin cook injuries at times. It was a problem problem. I mean they had a whole bunch of issues but i think this year for whatever reason i like minnesota so thirty thirty touchdowns ten ten interceptions for for cousins last year that's real completion percentage seventy percents that's real. I said sixty eight but here's the thing do you remember a single passi through late. Did the point is kirk cousins. One of those guys that's gonna do it. I do the second you need it. You go to that rams game and obviously it's big. I remember at the best because it was the that happened right in front of us but they were moving and then he took to terrible sacks at the end of the game <hes> one of those guys i love the numbers i love the numbers because because the numbers tell you what happened during the game but it needs to tell you more about winning happened <hes> because that's the reason you can't remember any of those touchdown passes because because it didn't happen at a key moment that majorie member the win win always matter more and with her cousins his win is always left a lot of coaches right around the hallway chargers in the saints yesterday down the street chargers lose whatever whatever again preseason doesn't matter no philip rivers drew brees none of the guys yesterday but just watching charges loss georgia's nineteen seventeen. Oh okay it off. They look like they had commanded. Saints field goal late okay but watching those and again it's it's backups mostly but seeing the coaches and seeing the way that they play and the way that it was executed. Both of those teams feel teams. We'll see deep into january. No he look it. When i watch preseason games i watch up to the point where i can't watch anymore and dan that typically goes into third quarter and look the charges look fine. I'd for the first time twelve gauge which jones the backup quarterback actually looked like an n._f._l. Backup quarterback for the first time to me you know front line guys. They didn't play obviously but then you had backups arteta scott. The receiver position show flashes to me of what he did at clemson. I'm like okay. I get it. I see what this is the running game and it looked okay to me overall. I feel good about the charges third year for coaching leeann. He understands what <hes> being. A head coach is all about. I think he's going to be a head coach for a long time for the charges. I think that they you have something cooking there i really do. I think that they're going to now obviously in gordon does it cook without during james because james as a a big big loss for neom. If he comes you know they need to get him back. Let's just put it that way to get him and bolsa going. It could be as many as four months for derwin james. I mean he could miss just the vast majority of the season. That's a real thing it is all pro as a rookie but their defense coordinator and gus bradley is is phenomenal n._f._l. Calling defensive plays so i think he could figure out how to muster some note without during chains in the lineup but i think the charges are going to be around. I think it's going to be a two headed race in a._f._c. A._f._c. west for with kansas city to chargers so the texans they went again. They scored thirty points in every season. The texans have they all the gene. Formula slow start then they get cooking. They win the division or the getting the playoffs and then they're one of the first teams out every single any reason to think that it's going to be different this year because they got the quarterback that got the taking wide receiver. They got a pretty good defense but the texans are hey. We're in the a._f._c. South going to play offs boom out later well. I i think i think they could advance further depending on the seating and what where they at i think they win the division. Divisions gonna probably come down at indy depending on whether or not andrew luck plays <hes> watson's third year. I believe as a starter so you're looking at a guy that has some experience understands what the n._f._l. Is all about now. <hes> o'brien head coach understands what he has at the quarterback. There's not this rotating door of defensive physical ordinations anymore. Romeo cornell settled back in it's d._c. Even though he's he's just calling in now game planning it which is a little bit different so i like the texas. I think that they're going to be valuable option and a._f._c. I was watching the steelers and the chiefs to they came on before the rams and patrick mahomes was out out there for a minute. It wasn't long. He went out there and he every time he dropped back he. I'm thinking what the hell are they doing. Andy reid knows more about this than i'll ever hope to know. I'm andy reid has everything you could ever ask for as a head coach except for super bowl championship but i'm watching mahomes out there in a game that doesn't count thinking what the hell are you doing dude. I can't be around why because you like voodoo guy dolle with pins or worry about the world you just bring bad juju huge into the room. Mike kaiser every williams paxton bad judo. What are you talking about this team with you and you sitting around worrying about get hurt. You're gonna get hurt hurt. I bet you that williamson wasn't thinking about getting hurt and guess what he's done for the season yeah but it was somebody say what. What the hell is this. Somebody you know body. That's all i'm saying but i wouldn't have had patrick mahomes. No i wouldn't think so there'd be you know patients patriots. That's how it goes last. One browns baker mayfield pretty no not at all by the way they've gotten more action than the bears in vegas. They're not the favourite's but they've had more action on that team. Fallen in love because baker mayfield drove the team down the field and scored. I'm not it doesn't it's the pre. What baker do preseason last season you like going. It's just half a season which no he. I didn't do anything into the end of the season and what he did at the end of season was not like some magical miracle record for all time elsie l. z. What would he have to do. You go. You know what i do is pretty good win a super bowl no he's got. He's got to win. The division lead his team into the playoffs. You gotta win more than five games in me james winston ever done okay. You got to win more than seven. No give me this. I got all this talent in because i wear headband. I'm supposed supposed to be great. No i like baker. I like you but you gotta win. Coming up next travis goes for olympic gold old in the butterfly squat category on the morning show.

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Mornings with Keyshawn, LZ & Travis (HR3)

Mornings with Keyshawn, Jorge & LZ

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Mornings with Keyshawn, LZ & Travis (HR3)

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It is national read a book day good as read a bookie. He's headline presented by sprint cargo. Doodoo cockatiel do so hip hop artist. Nicki minaj has announced her retirement. There's a lot of people in her camp and outside campus trying to figure out why she all of a sudden decided to retire because because she's got studios book. I guess you got a book studios in advance. She's got a bunch of songs she's lined up to record with different artists uh-huh and you know she's wants to start a family. She says an or take care of her family or something along those lines but there's other people that says says she's fed up with the trolls on social media question her legacy as a rapper okay l. zeke speak to that so and stuff because i whatever ever she's just like little kim to me as far okay how dare you and said what are you which part of killing in her camp got bars man they wrap. It's the same thing you can name little kim albums and songs. I can't name nothing nicki menaj ever did but i still think her best bars came on monster she dropped in with jay z and kanye them. She killed it on monster and then after to that retire from being a rapper. I don't get it like you retire. You don't know you're never hitting again. This is what i think occurred what he's looking looking at cardi b.'s shine and she's like i need to say something to get the attention back onto me because cardi b. too much of cardi b. legit though fool food for freezing is already great no right no actually what about sweet tea sweet teeth look sweet tea party be that i like cartridges ranchi in this rap about employees travis black. I speak i can't speak to her employees ability and i the blackness has nothing to do within their deal is not appealing to me. You don't make all that good dumping dunkin nine tamamka's talking about just i just like she's just funny like she legit to me that she makes the time which i so mickey manashe is going to retire it. She decides that she's tired of the twitter facebook instagram people going at her saying. She doesn't write her own music all in my the whole shutout and point to this with her is why you've people attention man like what if they if they buy they buy it. They don't they don't but you can certainly can't can't live your life based on what somebody's saying about you on social media like why do i just add never understand why people worry about what other people say about her careers exactly right. I mean she can't ignore instagram because she needs to ground to become where she is now. That's the reason why a you know. You don't have to pay display but you don't have to pay attention to the comments. I tell you that all the time you sit up here with wrinkle phases mac and somebody said he didn't know what you tell my e. I would say i'm a cutback at him like you. Don't let that dude dude dude none of that girl whoever has nothing to do in their life but troll you why even pay attention to it it's vice it is by it but it's hard to do not <music> live radio <hes> black dynamite eleven eighty six on instagram blast ells the to name one cardi b. song please. Oh i see everything's charts difference. That's the difference. She's she's pregnant for me. <hes> she's pregnant with maroon five. She's partnering up with all kinds of art is bruno mars me. She's on the tracks right now. You can just tell black diamond look charge and you'll get them all right. I mean she's on a charge now she she started off with. You know either very cheese. I say she got bars. I'm just saying she's on fire right now. She's into stripper movie with j. ehlo and stuff so she jaylo it's called. We're back on track. I can't believe y'all corny but that was my headline headline morning. You're listening to k s._p._n. Los angeles. Let's try these sprint people's hotline in l._a. You're on the morning. Show what's going on. What's what's up. Fellow the love your show love your show every morning to thank you question. Why did the letter has to come from. Mike mike mayock. Why didn't it just come from the raiders organization second thing. I listened to the story break yesterday. Which you guys yesterday the phone you jumped on a quick. You said if probably with with mike may actually at the certain way towards player. I'm not picking on your back. I'm not taking this back like that but those are two questions that i have well i would say that it was probably just a pecking order within raiders organization it could come from the president of the team. He could come from the gentleman. I guess that's just the way that they do it at. Somebody's name has to be by yes. Yes somebody name has to be on an as far as <hes>. What was the second one the second part it is is that may approached him spoke to him in a certain way and he goes not taking antonio brown's back but there's there's something about the way that you say something to somebody. Say anything you sent the letter but but like you said i research but the you said it earlier we were having. I don't remember if he said it on the air off but you said there's one thing that hey i need to talk to you and there's a when you're done come on in my office for second yeah th there's a very different approach in your general manager. You're not a coach. Why are you you even on the field right. Stand on the sideline. Stare people down with your noculars or something with a little hat on glasses folder. Wear khakis would tucked in shirt badu is that this is why. I think that all of this is not a result of something that happened. I think this is the result of plan that was put out very deliberately man. I mike mayock mayock knows that if he approached antonio brown and said hey you that it's going to go as opposed to antonio when you're done swing by astro themselves i had one too i probably had in my career. I probably had ten or so assistant general manager general manager types on the teams that i play for whether it was shock. Hairs dick haley will bill was coach when he was running the team but shack dick haley mardi herni rich mckay <hes> jerry and steven jones not one of them. Doing any of our practices have ever had a conversation with me about anything that i was doing at that moment. That's why i think that'd be all never why i've had conversations with him in the conversations was we. We should drop down. We gotta get this for next time. Big guy you if we could have just maybe you if that block of sealed air that those conversations not conversations about me stretching or conversations of me not having my helmet those conversations came from the own came from the head coach a position coach strength coaches s it now no damn general manager sitting over there acting like he tough trying to set him up at work. That's also possible to though that just as a._b. Can't control himself. Maybe might may. I can't control himself so either like he knows if i poked his bare is going to be trouble but i just gotta say something because you know the keys point. This is just who i am. I if that's not dismissing missing it but if that were the case wouldn't jon gruden saying mayock. What the hell are you doing. Get out of here. No you gotta hear no down here in aggravate. My players get outta here because john likes looking like he's the grown up in the room like he's grown up in the room to say get out of here yeah but i know from gruden amac. That's what i'm saying from you. I'm john john at the end of the day is coaching and he's i look. I don't know if john put him up to it. I don't know if john was aware of it. I i don't know any of those sorts of things but i can surely feel and i've been around teams and leagues and players and coaches and general managers in certain personalities allies in knowing mike mayock from a distance in his personality will rub players the wrong way. He's not e because he's a mr know it all mr i know everything and i'm gonna show you and i can only imagine him seeing a be doing something and approach a._b. I am bringing up the letter so that's why a._b._c. he gonna sock him in the face so maybe allegedly said he was going to punch him in the face. Well maybe that's next. We'll find out gardena this time and the more show what's up their morning show in the world <music>. Thank you also real quick on the cardi b. Niki manashe be neither one of 'em see light real tar. You're what i'm talking about his day. Better respect the game because unless you're ice hugh wrapping figure a thousand that game we retire you by itself. There's no no need for yourself to retire so girl. You better take heed anyway. Prop me off the ledge key. I mean you were kind of going in diff- with the right now. What is the role like. You're saying that this g._m. Was we're coming out of left field doing it so you're seeing that this this wouldn't be like a normal tactic for g._m. In trying to discipline you know a new. Oh no not at all general managers. We'll have conversations conversations which you in private behind closed doors. They will meet you. They may even see working out in the weight room and put you on a sidebar but not coming on the field doing practices even even if you're not stretching or whatever you doing do that's for the head. Coach assistant coaches to manage take care. It's not for general manager is just not. There's there's no other general manager jeff first of all half the gentleman's don't even go to dan practices right. They don't they do everything training camp. They watched the feel they they sitting in their office trying to figure out what players they go cut keep trying to figure out who they working out next to get rid of a certain guy. They talk to their scouts house. They're not sitting in their game planning with the coaches. They're asking questions communicating but they're not at practice every single day sitting around antagonizing players. They're not doing that. Thank you. Hey one asking is <hes> is he. Gonna be a raider. 'cause i'm team. I want him on the team but we'll see. What are you doing man. I don't you know it is money. That's involved and i personally personally would keep him on the team because i think the the the relationship is burned with the g._m. And not what the head coach because the head coach removed moved yourself and put a shield up in basically camouflaging behind maniac so i'm used i'm looking at that as a player and i'm saying to myself well. I got a problem with me. I got a problem because groups on the letter grooten said all the positive things that meanwhile this dude is being you know what to me so i don't like him and i feel like that is where the relationship is going to be in at the end of the day. He's playing for gruden his plan for mayock so i think he is gonna wind up. Team is going to be a few weeks before you actually takes the field so commonwealth of gardena last segment brought up mc light so we place them see like the show people aren't lindsey theory is it is going to be at the rams and the carolina panthers coming up this week and she joins us right. That's gonna join us all season long morning lindsey. How are you good morning. Guys how the go hello and lindsey are you team menard team cardi b. I'm with you totally against me. If i told you i probably they didn't know the difference between their music on new shoes don't say she didn't know who they were or done. Listen to so something. I i knew that i kinda knew if that's okay. Don't check your mentioned girl or check your mentions. No i know like when they come on. I'd like their music but i i just i'm falling so far behind you. I just listened to like the ninety on nine. All the time. I understand so carolina takes on the rams on sunday lindsey and there's been a lot of information floating around on girlies health chow mcvay. Obviously said that he's going to basically a using till you can't stop anymore. How has he looked at practice. If you had an opportunity to see it at all no we really haven't had an opportunity to see much. Which is kinda the last couple of weeks at practice or any of practice really because it's gone down to the twenty minutes you watch them stretch. You watch them in a couple of individual drills and then and of course the rams really get what they want to work on and we go inside just pretty standard across the n._f._l. I do tend to think that that sean sean told me yesterday that really will not be unlimited snap count but i really think he is going to be in a rotation that includes malcolm brown daryl oh henderson so while they're going to stay on the snap count. I think we will see more of the other running backs lindsey theory the rams for e._s._p._n. Lindsay would john on mcvay and wade phillips are getting ready to devise the defense of what they wanna do against carolina this weekend. Is it start with cam newton or does it start with christian mccaffrey. I think and get started bullets. I mean that's really a two headed monster something they said so in fact so i think that they really need to make sure that they are staying on top of camping in the run. Defense is really what we're going to be looking at as they get going on sunday because it's something that they struggled with all of last season and made stopped and they needed to but it's really going to be interesting to see what this spread looks like without a plug in sebastian joseph day so they're gonna have their hands full opening with the christian mccaffrey but we'll see if it's defensive the front little bit improved from what it was last year. I love the piece you did when you went to colorado to visit andrew whitworth. Can you tell the listeners a little bit about what you discovered about uh-huh. Oh think that means a lot l. d. <hes> yeah so i went to colorado for a day with andrew <hes> he lives up near vail gets. His family has house so basically andrew has prolonged his career. He's going into his fourteen n._f._l. Season and he's very into how to keep his body fresh and how to kind of find different ways to move his body. 'cause we all know as we get older. It gets a little bit tougher <hes> but it was really great. I got to spend the day with him and his she was telling and that kind of watched him go through a circuit workout watched him push a golf cart across driveway that young sons wherein <hes> obviously officially that's a delightful move for two young boys to have their gadsby strong up to push them across the driveway instead of towering with the pedal and <hes> and then played played some golf out there on the golf course with him andrew obviously that's pretty spectacular stand up close to him and watch him swing a golf club <hes> but <hes> just kind of went around the course of him eh kid and really kinda got to see a day in the life and i'll tell you it's really something to kind of energy that andrew has and then just when you hear about his workout routine in his thoughts on and how long you can play which he's gonna keep playing until he's not okay with his performance and he says he'll be the best judge of that lizzie theory of e._s._p._n. Being joined us here on the morning show covering the rams versus. The carolina panthers this sunday lizzy as you had an opportunity to rams. Obviously they lost the super bowl. We haven't seen him in a regular season game. Since then jared goff system has signed this massive huge contract with one hundred ten million dollars guaranteed record-breaking going going into this game do you sense at all and i and probably not that he is put the money behind him and looking forward to try and get back to the super the ball with no worries at all now i know i think that jared confident as ever. Obviously it's one thing for the g._m. And the coach to say oh we're behind him. It's not a matter of when or if but when but now that he has the money now that there's no doubt anywhere that sean mcvay is very happy with jared goff is a quarterback back. I think you do you go in. He says he's a little bit relieved. He felt happy excited <hes> but he didn't talk necessarily about having any added pressure the pressure i think was to prove that he could be this quarterback and now the entire organization's behind him so i think we'll see jared goff be as good as as he ever has been as they get ready for this new season even lindsay. I'm sure you got a chance to see the game last night between the packers and the bears and both offenses looked incredibly rusty. Neither team looked sharp offensively. How do the rams avoid board a similar fate considering. They didn't play guys either yeah. I think that's going to be the really interesting. Part travis when we go into carolina is just seeing how they look because we we really haven't seen the offense. I know that sean mcvay is added new wrinkles. I know that there are things going on beyond eleven personnel but we just haven't seen any of it now. Don't thing is kind of fall back on. Is that last season in their opener. They played well. They played well in the opening twenty seventeen hundred mcvay again. We really hadn't seen much so history. History says anything it says the rams offense won't suffer the way that the packers and the bears did but <hes> it will be interesting to see just because all these teams have decided to go so easy in the preseason that maybe they do actually need a few those games to get things going. Do you have a sense of what the game plan is to. You can't stop cam newton but you can decide what you're going to give him. Do you have a sense of what you're going to allow him to do. I i honestly don't have a sense because these guys in their poker. Faces has been an absolutely insane the u._s. aaron donald and he goes down goes to stop him <hes> so i don't know if they're going to try and get campers that they're going to try and get christian i i but <hes> i think that what they are preparing for is for me to be a guy who has targeted greatly and wade phillips said yesterday that they expect back the amount of double teams and even triple team. He's going to take on to go up so however they're planning to slow cam. I think that they are also looking at how are they going to slow aaron donald because that might be our best way to cam lindsay. How healthy are the rams bolt on offense and defense. Is there any worry with anybody that is nicked up banged up fill certain type of way healthy across the board. I keep to leave with dealing with a hamstring injury <hes> since oh joint practices a few weeks ago with the oakland raiders eric but he has since returned to practice and that's fine there is nobody listen on their injury report so they're all good to go. I know that we talked a little bit about it. That ed sean mcvay says the todd gurley is not going to be on a pitch count that you said that you expect them to be part of a rotation and and i don't wanna use the word. Do you believe them because that feels like an accusation is asia but do you i. I'll put the put it to you this way. I'm still waiting to see todd gurley. I don't care what anybody tells me. I'm still waiting to see todd. Gurley looked like todd gurley the kind of in the same boat that i'm in yeah that absolutely makes two of us. I like i said earlier they they say snap count and he won't be limited but i think that that takes takes on a new definition in twenty nineteen. It's hard to believe that nothing has changed with todd when over the offseason everything changed with todd so i will not be surprised to see <hes> he might not be on a limited count fight their definition anymore but that means now. Maybe going forward that. The new todd shares carry with malcolm brown or you know has split time with gerald henderson so on one hand. I think they're being truthful on one hand. I also think the truth can change a little bit. The popular picked to win the super bowl of the cheese. The popular pick for the team took a step back. Are the rams are are. They cognizant of this chatter about them. How people are expecting them to actually fall back. Yeah i think they are because it's been brought up to them a couple of times but i don't think internally there's any worry about that. These guys are very confident. Group really nothing has changed from last season and really the only thing that has caused leads them to take this step back from on from the outsiders is the fact that they will be pretty badly by bill on the super bowl so not not many teams are able to beat the patriots in the super bowl. The rams know that they've now been their experience that feels like and i don't think it's of any concern to them. What's being said on the outside died. <hes> you know they know they need to start fast but beyond that they are. They're pretty much the same team. They were your ago lindsey theory. She covers the rams e._s._p._n. The answer is going to join us every friday. During the football season enjoy carolina go to bojangles. Stay away from bojangle's. There's lindsey. I think she hung up on this. She bojangles donald on that friday friday friday feel just i feel a lot better. Chris wild wings coming in bringing food. That's right and check out the two dollar late night but blitz at buffalo wild wings. That's right come in at nine pm to ten pm and get two dollar bud lights cores light and two dollars bar food. Only buffalo wild wings guys. I just did some work on a chicken sandwiches. Either you know what you might have done so we're gonna chicken sandwich but key got the whole bucket on the whole bucket of next year. I don't want to stay in a lot six wings and i'll stop there now travels. It's not that cauliflower vegan no no that was on a chicken no. I just brought it to make sure that everybody had some awesome in front of me. I see it was quite good yeah. I'm gonna try to eat chicken strips strips next you guys go ahead and do the segment i stop eating and due to show. I did a whole sandwich and in one break. I'm pretty proud of myself now. Wait wait a hard time. I'm not i i did like a quarter key starts giving me a hard time while you know just like it wasn't a heart you win in the corner and turn your back so i didn't do it. I did it. I did it on video and then i walked over to make sure that we were good for the break. Janice is coming in here now at the plate of fries. I'll take some for sure banquets banquet fan but i'll eat elliott a couple. I know travis has said in theory. He's passed up on some stuff but i haven't seen any practice. No there are only a few things that i'm going to say no to and so far. We haven't had any shot up to mark to for hooking up after last week. It's a football friday week one so we hooked it up. He went there and made it happen. He didn't hook up keelan. We said in a buffalo wild wings in burbank woke up early to prepare food for station. Yeah fantastic fantastic strike other one real quick the real l. j. from compton on the sprint people's hotline. What's up jay pole. I just wanted to say about a._b. I work at staples center so when he was dare talk to him so he has a sense of compulsive disorders by way works out and then if you were really watching and you talk to them <music> i switch and everything so it's going there so mike may act like. He said he's a narcissist. He listened to all his good old. Boys telling oh you lend a._b. Run run around. Do whatever you want so. He decided to send him this fine when he could have just bought him in office. When you got these type of guys you have to know how to mentally deal with no question so r. j. jay jay for him to just go through the field and give them a ladder outside. He was through a good old boy to tell them to do it. Well no he didn't he didn't go let me let me get it correct. He didn't go to the field building. Give him a letter. What happened is a letter was in his locker a._b. Put the letter on social media which kinda agitated mayock a._b. Also also said some things about the organization and stuff like that so mike mayock did need to go to the field to say anything the next eggs data a._b. At all he didn't exactly left alone a._b. The internet so he already knew if he tires shoe gonna come on internet so he knew he go off on my way out so wars letter up the show rafa mike mayock. This is why the n._f._l. Players have to do it's for the reason they are acting a certain way because the media you gotta get lost jae. I want to go back to somebody said at the beginning was was talking about that a._b. Got this. You know that's the problem when you bring food here is because everybody wants to eat. Nobody wants to chime in and talk anymore. I noticed christie. You said a word perfect. Here's the deal. It's really tricky to try to diagnose somebody with a mental illness nisa having never even though he wasn't but what he called him crazy i understand i understand it. I'm not going to call him crazy but i will. I will throw this out there. Does he wanna play football absolutely because his actions say that he doesn't know absolutely wants also play football loves to play football wants to be appointed raiders in wants to be on the team but it what he doesn't want somebody trying to bully him. Go back to yesterday man dig about what i said when i broke traffic dead man did something to him. I you know and i and i'm not saying that he would have left him alone. Doc a._b. Will still be praxis. Be traveling wherever they play at home. He will be going with the team to the hotel on saturday night the whole team. I i'm with you on league understand that mike mayock yanked his chain and he went sensitive right now. You just took fifty four rex automatic. This is not the first time in antonio brown has had stuff. We've talked about a million times until he asked right a lot of stuff pittsburgh. Did he go off with mike tomlin because mike tomlin stepped back just left him alone. I get it. I get but my question is. It's there does seem to be and like like sorry ready to cut you off again but you did not but i'm looking at. I take max in in in in mexico. Lemon and steven just showed a clip of john grew in may i may extending extending their will look like he got a car sheet to call plays. He's standing side-by-side own the field like come on man i get it. I think we're talking about two different. May i'm not excusing anything that may i did. I i ki- elza you might be right that he may be one of the scottsdale that just goes and can't not go but i also think that there's a very good chance that he knows exactly exactly what he's doing and he did what he did on purpose knowing that if i confront him in this particular manner i'm going to get a certain reaction and i want that reaction because it allows me you start the process of maybe getting out of this thing that maybe i don't want that. I've seen something i know something. I've got all these ideas on what this is and we're we're committed to thirty demint. Let me see if i can find an escape hatch here. Maybe if i find him. Maybe if i go on tv and say your inner out maybe if i go down to the facility and the practice and say a. B. get over here got something to say to you that he's gonna react and now i can go out clause to line for give me my money back. You can question chicken. That's the question that i think needs to be. I answered as a football friday day as you know and a football friday next week we will be in west covina at the l. pescador the morning show tickets to the people here. You say you get on our v._i._p. Was text the word kuroda two four zero seven zero five. You get an r._v. list. You have more chances to win. Extra raffle tickets janice will be there handed him out. We're gonna give away ram a._m. Saints tickets in person. We also have the brand new morning. Show women in addition t shirts. L. pescadores got their own tequila shots. You know the morning show does it takes corona to four zero seven zero five next friday in the city of west covina all brought to you by corona extra game on lime in <hes>. You just have one of those coronas to washed down at chicken huh yeah well. They corona fridge doesn't come back hawking fruits. I definitely want one of those frigid. I look on the frigid. Okay keep absolutely the theory that i laid out a minute ago. Is it possible and let me the king different theory the the idea. Let me let me preface by saying that. I'm not trying to defend mike mayock and i'm not saying that mike mayock isn't exactly what you've described but suck is is this also possible and that being that mike mayock and jon gruden whether it was something they saw on the field whether there was something so off the field they something in their universe may alarm wiki win without him we can win without him or this is going to be no good. This is not going to this is not what we thought we were getting. I want i want to get out of this and so they put the wheels in motion to basically start pushing antonio brown's buttons in a very systematic way in a we're gonna find him. We're gonna know that he's going to react to the because that's what he does. We know that once he does that will respond to it by confronting him in a very public way that he cannot back down from it that he has to go and when he does that bam we can activate the we're gonna suspend you are going to get the money back and we're going to move on without you because this doesn't seem like this is a here's why i think it's not only possible but likely what's the win in this for them. If it's not that wh- what is the purpose of like you said taking his fifty thousand dollars what's the purpose of that which the purpose of confronting him on the field and and making a situation. That's almost certain to explode. What's in it for them because they're not trying to get rid of him because i'm showing you. I'm in charge in. I'm one of the harshest harshest critics john gruden's right play for the man. We won the super bowl. He actually tried to come back signed me when i retired to make to to when i left the carolina panthers in winter e._s._p._n. Midseason bruce allen. Who's the general manager at the time the tampa bay who's now g._m. President of the washington redskins reached out with jon gruden my agent and myself to try to get to unretire to come and join the tampa bay buccaneers after everything to me and gruden went through because guess what he just want somebody who's gonna help him win. Football games <hes> he doesn't care at a b. is running around doing this and that he just wants a guy on the feel to win football games on the other side. Mike mayock is sticking his chessel because he wants to try improve to people that already know like elza you you that he ain't running nathan that means nothing yeah. He's not running nathan at all. He's just there as a cover boy for john so he steps up uh. I'm going to send a letter fine. Okay you find him. That's good fifty four thousand dollars but she took it one step further based on the fact that a._b. Okay be posted the letter on a social media site. It said something about the organization. Now you go get so oh man in high strung roll out to the practice field messing around with information. This is where we have new palm according to justina anderson from e._s._p._n. That apparently he was at practice. Okay mike mayock was is it practice but he was just he he did not antonio brown went and confronted him. Okay died that he went over there and you some words covering j._d. Including racial zang racial you're right you're right but the the way that we were kind of in our minds i think about it was that mike mayock was the one that said hey antonio. I need to talk to you where the way that it went down. We're finding out now was he's standing there and antonio brown's saw saw him and went at him and escalated the situation he he saw him because he was standing there looking at he and he was saying hisself minutes do just about fifty four thousand. I'm getting ready to walk over there in get at him. Now what i said. I told you that he says himself to him. I didn't i don't i know how the exchange started but yesterday just based on how i know the league and how players think especially when they don't like somebody what was going to happen how it's gonna escalate so may. I didn't stand around and go mess when he didn't seek him out a._b._c. Tim i'll because that letter was sent to him and he wasn't happy and that was the first time he probably saw. May i so therefore he said you know what i'm going to me now. You got all the covered. You need to spend cut the car because now you've got players walking up the team executives using racial slurs cursing him out he can't have that. I told you justina gave us these recent details and after she does sportscenter head at the top she's going to join us worked there on. It's nice to finally doing something to eat chicken wings while it takes. I'm like i'm like popeye. Chicken wings instead of spinach so and so is so oh interesting though because when we talked about it yesterday on and off the air and i was trying to tell you guys that he said some stuff to him and he didn't he. I just knew it. I i just know who's according to the story here. I'm reading it. Out of one of my is here is that apparently may not only didn't initiate initiate. He tried to deescalate that he tried to. Hey what we can talk about this but let's not here that he tried to have this thing. Be something other than what it became into your point l z. This may be just they may have walked up. If you're going absolute jot it exactly what we needed nuts go to. I don't know that i don't know we'll ask joe seen right. We'll ask josefina. I don't know that they'll be able to get the money back and do all of that because is nothing being in the rule book that says you can't have an argument with personnel person now argument now because now if you're talking about racial slurs and apparently they re so we can say the word we can't. We just be careful the way you use it on say. Let me say what he say. I i want you to say because you didn't get job. I can't you you say credit for your current contract. Here's i got from chuck. <hes> he's just to be clear. You can say say blink on the year in attributed to a. b. but don't use it in any graphics which we don't have. What did he say he used. He caught for him and i quote laughing. He's so excite incite. Ah provisional word hold on let me say the ticket back. Yeah i get a good one to crack cracker. Gimme my credit credit. What did i say off air when we were having a conversation trying to figure figured out yesterday. What did i say specifically that were was. He said back it had it. I know that interesting you. You talked about the fact that he's from the south. I just knew what you're saying right out and i'm not taking your credit away but i could've guessed what he said well you you probably you probably would have used another word. That's all you just read us another word. No i think it would've got that one right gotten to the <hes> announced ride high exactly wrong okay what happened. What are they doing. What sign are they holding up. Take it. I'm tired of people taking our stuff. Yes on first take they're. They're pretty close. I can't remember te'o on stage with dutch mcdonald. Johnson bonds. I love to you over got got attacks. Here's me exactly what to say. I look under the least bit surprised at all but here's the thing now you have all the cover in in the world to suspend them to deactivate him because everyone heard you step out there and use a racial slur in regards to a team exact and if you've got to say that if it was a white guy that used the n. word and he's out you gotta have the sense of parameters a._b. Hope you save your money domain.

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QUICK HIT | Raiders are the real deal

The Stinkin' Truth with Mark Schlereth

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QUICK HIT | Raiders are the real deal

"It's a stinking truth. PODCAST CREEK HIT. And this is interesting because there are so many teams that kick the can down the road and are afraid to just basically say we got a we got a strip it and build it back up want to slap bandaids on right they wanna slap band aids and tell her fans they look we're closed. We just sign this guy is gonNA put us over the Tub all were won't we're one big time receiver away from yeah. No, you're not no, you're not you're not and I was told I was in their facility in Oakland is two years before they moved to Vegas. They're just said, hey, listen man this where we are I think this is two thousand seventeen. To. This world where we stripped this damn thing down to the studs in rebuilding. And Mike Mayock be in the general manager. His Dad was an old line coach. He said we're GONNA build this thing inside out. We'll take care of our law and take care of our D. Line Front seven on defense. That's what we're GONNA do that's how we're going to build this thing, and then we're going to put the pieces in when they come to us you know on the outside and everything else and look what's happened. Trail away some big time players, Khalil Mack, and everybody else you know traded away got draft picks built their team the way they wanted to build their team and what's happened. In my mind you now. They're number one. Offensive tackle acquisition from the Patriots in Brown Riots Brown and Brown Brown. Minjah the first two weeks they've actually rotated two different guys over there right tackle and they've just dispense justice. They've just beat people up. That's what they do and I gotta give them. You know and I hate the raiders with the White Hot as even thousand sons as you well know but I gotta give them a ton of credit. That's a real team.

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Where Raiders stand 19 days befor season?

Silver & Black Pride

13:15 min | 2 months ago

Where Raiders stand 19 days befor season?

"Today answers matter more than ever before that's why IBM is helping businesses manage customer questions with Watson Assistant. It's conversational AI designed to work for any industry. Let's put smart to work visit IBM Dot Com Slash Watson Assistant. Hey everybody our use this bill Williamson. This is Bloomberg Pride. This is our podcast. October twenty Tuesday nineteen days before the NFL season starts. And I'm as confident as ever that there will be a NFL season. We usually start this weekly podcast. It'll to ice week during the season more there is major news We always started with the krona virus update and. It's excellent I wish it was this excellent. Around the country. There is the scare of the false positives around the NFL East Coast teams with it Saturday night Sunday morning. which was odd. But. it was false positives on. There's only like there hasn't been any new cases in while there's only three players in protocol across the NFL thirty, two teams whatever the NFL is doing right now it is working. Could. There be. Some missteps some. Things that happened basically can there be some outbreaks positive covert nineteen tests during the season we'll. Certainly. We've seen in baseball. The hockey and basketball doing really good. In, the environment of a bubble but NFL's doing really well to travel may be a little daisy but I think we're going to get through it I really do. More, teams around the League are. Saying that, hey, we're not gonNA have games to start the season the raiders. Won The first and say we're not doing games here all this season. We get a miracle, things can change. But I. Really think there going to be NFL football. In nineteen days when the raiders play at the Carolina Panthers and and I make this point because. I have a lot of close friends. Yeah. Believe it or not bill. Williamson his friends. that. Or ask me or you within is going to be games like they're surprised by it. Even a few in the last couple of days. So Hey. I can't guarantee anything but it sure looks like things are going really well. So. There you go. Doing really well for the raiders camp. You know the deal here. I WanNa make you guys these smartest fans in the Raider. Nation. It's not your job. This is your passion. Well, this is my job. So it's my job to Kinda give you all the tidbits I'm. So I, just kind of go I just quick hit and his go stream of conscious consciousness and go I. I've fudge names a screw up were sitting at the bar or or having a soda pop and we're talking and say a lot of people ask me man you sound like you're up on that podcast no just goofball I swear. Sober as a judge. Now. When I'm drinking, you should see how I sound. It sounded like Robert Guei all serious and stuff. But when I'm sober I'm goofball I'm kidding. But yeah, no sober anyways who cares if I was drinking but I ain't So. Mike mayock today, he likes the way this team is competing. And that was A. Really interesting term competing because both sides are getting after and that's what good teams do, and since Mike Mayock came to the raiders two years ago I think the type of players him in Jon Gruden tried to get. Or guys that will football competitors and when you get a bunch of those type of guys and you I mean. Farrell Crosby Renfro Abram ingold. You know. Pick 'em Moreau Arnett. Go Go go you know just A quick Hausky Wilton it goes on and on when you get those tap guys. That love football. The whole team starts getting it and in winning teams have that competitive coacher about culture. Well, the that's part of the winning culture. I'm not saying this because the raiders are competing, and Mike Milkin Jon Gruden a happy about what they're seeing. But it sure part of the puzzle it's it's it's not a guarantee that they're going to win but sure part of the puzzle. So they ago the first real significant possible injury. is at Tira Williams has term Labor he's going to try to play through it. People have played through it he's playing through it before. but if it becomes an issue and yesterday surgeries gone for the season so it's up possibility. That, he's out a lot of. Cool. We you know. Hey, will will move rugs around by Brian. Edwards is ready to go. And you know what? The maybe. But rookies receivers can be tough. It could be tough, and then this is a weird year so. You know don't expect. Gold from these guys just because. They're highly touted just because they're getting in. August it doesn't really mean crap all this. Love from the media doesn't mean crap until they show it on the field. You know and I'm not saying they're going to show it on the field. bummed. is saying just because on August twenty fifth somebody gets praised that doesn't mean they're going to actually make plays on semper. September fifth thirteenth year. I. Mean it's no guarantee. So. You know. Let's let's hold her temper. With let's be temper expectations. Make Mike Max Kinda so that today he's like you know, hey, they're rookies are competing. They're doing good. But they're still rookies you gotta earn it and I think that's I think that's Kinda what the raiders coaches are wanting to do here. Teams are even allowance Reporters to tweet because this is such a weird year and there's no film there's no preseason film so. Other teams are getting their information from tritter reports. Like Gavin, white? Big Breakout Star. Well, yeah. Heard much about him from the as lately heavy. So because they don't want. These guys name to get out there. So they're being cool about all the rookies, even the guys who are guaranteed to make it. I think it's smart. Think it's smart Mike. Mayock really praise Nelson Aguilar. And Zeh. Jones today. So they're on a mission. This had great words appraises Jay Jones as as Jones made big strides since they acquired him last year. That's good. Because the dude only had one hundred, forty, seven yards catching and ten games with the raiders and they needed him. So, he better made strides in Niger is a guy who has ability for first round pick but has a lot of drops. So, we'll see I mean. Can. These guys I'd rather like I said, the rookies might be you know they might be slow to get going just because rookies are but I'm more excited about those guys then Zeta-jones in. For the long term I bet you are too right. Right. the YANIC. Trade Rumors Jacksonville Defense and. People were still saying the raiders are interested. There is a false reports that he was almost traded last week that never happened. We'll just keep our eyes on the price goes down I know the raiders have interests. We'll just keep your eyes on it. I had a poll question last week. And I'll ask you hear. What? I guess Marcus Mariota he's. Hasn't great camp. So you still confident him are you worried? If they're at car gets hurt God forbid knock on wood. Not Knock on wood if you with me knock on wood as A. as you superstition I always not on with. But are you are you worried if Derek? Architecture. About Mariota. It's an interesting question. It's an interesting question. Who Do you? Think's going to be the breakout. Star. Of this year. So people think it's going to be Quinn Farrell. I'm kind of thinking Miro I like Moreau Lot. But I don't know how many chances because there's so many options in this offense and then you bring in Jason witten well, and there's GonNa, be you know our the baller? But I like Moreau Lot. A Lot. I can't tell you how much I think this guy could be. Could be good. I mean. Good. and. I you know I think. Hundred Renfro could break out big and he broke up big tours in the year. But you know what? Seventy eighty catches I think we can see that. You know. Trent Brown is not practicing yet, but the raiders saying that he's going to be fine. So we'll see the raiders practice at the new stadium, we stay in the other day Friday. Mark Davis welcomed his team to the death star naming joint the death star. He he does players are watching. It's worry opponents dreams come to die. How about that? How cruiser? Mark Davis posing teams DREAMS COME TO I. Like it. They signed a few guys, Christmas events in theoretic. We'll see if he makes the team I know the ears want a big a bit of a Banger. The backup Jacobs. They site that theoretic is more of a pass Catcher we'll see column manual linebacker they signed him. You guys all have a chance. Williams stand back cut. I remember I got yelled at by people who when I said that devante booker at a better chance of making the team than. Williams Damnak well. devante booker still on the team just because you're see fell star in the NFL CFL was two different animals. They cut bryce Hagar linebacker. They're high on him when they draft when they when they signed him a couple of weeks go but he couldn't quite cover as well as they had hoped and. They had to let him go so I I I think positions like linebacker running back. Defensive Line I think these positions that we're going to watch raiders potentially add to. In the next couple of weeks to cut down day is eleven days, September fifth Saturday. We'll see what happens. What else we got? Think. We got a lot done here. We've got a lot done. Yeah. It's just you know excited we're the going. Worst be excited how the corona virus fight is going. We're going to see the raiders play football game in nineteen days, and we're going to be there to talk about that day. We talked about it a lot before then, and there's so much to talk about this is an exciting time. Where is it going to compete and we're GONNA see how it goes. So I appreciate you. This is Bill Williamson. This is silver and black pride. This is our podcast. You guys be safe. You have fun. and. We'll talk to you soon.

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REShow: Mike Mayock. Hour 1 (11-08-19)

The Rich Eisen Show

44:47 min | 1 year ago

REShow: Mike Mayock. Hour 1 (11-08-19)

"Thank you for listening to this. podcast one sports net production available on apple podcast and podcast one. Everybody's got A to do list. Drop off the dry cleaning pick-up some milk. Here's an idea. Let's add save hundreds of dollars on car insurance to that list and the good thing is you don't have to drop off or pick up anything. All you have to do is go to GEICO DOT COM and in fifteen minutes you could be saving fifteen percent or more on car insurance extra money in your pocket. Of course this may be the most rewarding warning to do you do today okay. Everybody welcome list dish of the rich Eisen show or live from the. At and T. Studios in Los Angeles California -fornia where the chargers are licking their wounds. After having every opportunity last night in what may prove to be by the end of this year a must have game name needed to have. It didn't get it their first team in the NFL right now to a played ten games non. Everyone's played ten games. A bunch of teams are on their. Bye Week calving. Had played nine summer coming off their bye week. Having played eight and very born six. The chargers have won four of their first ten as they are now. All the only team with six games left on their schedule. And conversely the raiders the raiders. Who took a ten? Nothing lead last night as Philip rivers. I think he threw through almost as many interceptions that got called back that he did. Actually that didn't get called back last night. Oh I thought you were gonNA say as many kids he has almost you put them all together. You know and not a good night for you know what though I mean he still. He still had a shot to win this game last night. And Amazingly with a minute it and change to go on all timeouts left. They didn't run at once My my friend ED WERDER OF ESPN WHO I follow tweeted out a stat that he picked from Elias that he got from Elias that last night. Philip rivers is the first quarterback to go all four seven in a final drive with a minute and change to go meeting forty or more yards cards. I mean it really is quite a stat very filtered. But they didn't. They didn't mix it up and Gordon. That was his best game of the year. Last Guy Hunter. Henry scored a touchdown scored a touchdown. They came back a couple of times. But it's it's just it's it's kind of the same old movie it's the same it's the same sequel almost every time out For chargers team with the exception of last year. That's been struggling struggling to get to the play. Offs and the raiders sniffing it. Oh they're sniffing at bud they've got. Ah I break with the colts in their back pocket. They've got a visit in week. Seventeen to come down here to Los Angeles and if the chargers season is over I prophesy every raider a fan that lives here in Los Angeles and there's tons of them are gonNA show up in that building the other teams that are sniffing it if you will be outside looking into the steelers at foreign four. And the Jaguars Titans at four and five. And they're in front of that and as you know. I said in a fourth down about three weeks ago in my four downs is a hot take. I love when my heartaches actually viable that the raiders would go ten six and make the playoffs. The Oakland Raiders. Now at five and four me to win five of their last seven in order for me to be correct all right. Let's take and if they are ten Hanan six based on as you could see the rest of this. AFC Ten and six make the playoffs for sure. Usually does I also senator the fourth down at ten and six would miss the playoffs in the NFC that had ten and sixteen would miss the playoffs in the NFC. But Oakland from here on out there on a mini by now as you know. Chill out the rest of this weekend. Home for Cincinnati's what is their next game at the New York jets is their game after that they visit Kansas City their home for Tennessee and Jacksonville so those two four four and five teams that are right behind him they can take care of business and not only separate themselves by game but also have that tiebreak in the back pocket act the the chargers at Denver so charges week sixteen seventeen man where the two losses there I mean you just have to assume. Sometimes they'll slip up at Kansas. The city could be one and right. I don't know you know Denver at home as surprised. People you number nerdy favourable skaggs divisional games. You never know it could lose. The chargers Archer's out here for sure. Maybe they almost did last night. They made enough mistakes of their own twelve penalties. But I'll tell you what this Josh Jacobs's special he is really special and I don't just mean statistically I said yesterday yesterday before the game. He was my leader in the clubhouse for offensive player of the year. There's no quarterback right now that's leaping to mind like say Baker Mayfield offensive rookie of the year. Pardon me like last year. Baker Mayfield was clear offensive. Rookie of the year along with Saquon. Gone the two of them hand in hand. Name me another rookie. That's performing offensively is well be decay. Metcalf is having an icy. He's been nice but Josh Gordon might take away some of that Josh Gordon. It's Josh Gordon. He's top five in the League in rushing right now and he's got nine games in. It's not like he's got ten games in extra game and he's so statistically you can't compare he's fourth in in a league in rushing right now he leads all rookies and rushing for sure and the way he rushes the way that he cuts. He hasn't never makes the wrong cut. You see that sometimes you guys bounce out and they keep bouncing eight. Or they're too impatient. He always makes the right cut. He turns a loss allows into a game he turns a short gain into a medium gain. He joins a medium game into a long game. He can block he can catch and he runs with such violence that when he arrives at the defender he's he looks bigger with what he does after the the contact then what appears to be with your own eyesight. He doesn't look very big. And then the contact hits on my all well. That's pretty physical. Oh he just carried the guy to three yards so he turned three yard gain in two seven. And I'll tell you he reminds me of He. Looks like Ezekiel Elliott. Is that hot hot. Take I don't know should I grab the plank. He looks like that where he's you. Don't take them off the field. I know they do sometimes on third down as a rookie. You don't have to that the way he's going he's GonNa be. He's a star already in this league but a true star for years to come like this is the twenty seventh overall selection a a diamond rough. That's what he looks. It's like to me arrives with violence gets up. Does it again does it again. You can feed him get stronger as the game goes on. He can pay cash out of the backfield he makes the right cuts. He drags people and he can pass protect. Who Does it? Sound like Zeke now. He's part of a rookie class. Where Cleland feral who'd been up and down had two and a half sacks last night Max crosby is be out of half a sack last night? They did have a ton of offsides hunter and froze becoming viable as a threat on third down the RENFRO thrown hunter. renfro bake the kid ingle who nobody drafted from. Wisconsin scored his first career touchdown last night and needed that to go to waller army too. But Waller's you can tell us being erased he is. You could see game plan against bowlers. I bring up all all. These rookies is because our first guest is a one drafted him and and I will as I get set to talk to Mike. Mayock of the raiders. Front office formerly normally my buddy of the NFL network for all those years sat on the ends of draft sets number of times. I would look at Mike. And I try and make a comparison or an evaluation valuation of what I see on tape knowing that he's watched the tape a million times more and this is not my area of expertise I'm straying out of my lane. I didn't have the Honda sensing if you will and I would eventually say to him. Hey you know this guy looks like to me and I just put it out there and I would just hold my breath waiting for the side waiting for the side I or he might go. You know what. Hey that's a good one and then when I get that from you know what. That's not a bad comparison when he would go higher register. Then I'd feel like I'd sit up in my chair. That'd be great but there'd be a time where I kinda get a little nervous I'm Gonna I'm GonNa go down that road with my you are. I'm GonNa tell them it's kid looks like Z.. To me okay. I mean shoot your shot. Obviously but he does look really special. Emma defense after getting carved up by Aaron Rodgers has become a little bit tighter tighter. They certainly came up big on fourth down on the lines. took all their top receivers off the field five days ago six days ago on Sunday. So the raiders have won twice recent four days and now they're five and four and they're in a great spot a great spot and May I ask him to join us to discuss it also on the show. Joe Hey juicy. You played last night downtown in Los Angeles Co.. I plan right man. Hey Coli did I was too busy watching the best record in the NBA. Boston Celtics Kemba Walker back in Charlotte and a nice video for him as really nice. I'm guessing Kyri won't get the same reaction when he points by the wait by the way great way for you to bring that up because those games were not against each other TNT. I just wanted to get very good. Yeah but your team. Wasn't you know. Hit fifty grand for load a lot of money for load management but you can handle manage. That load is Is Bomber bomber. Manage that load fifty K.. K. is just like. Let's let's look in the ashtray by the way. That's an old phrase is not not like Ashtray and cars anymore. There's not no no exceeded player. No no no no so Adding rate the clippers got Got A W in the forty percents. What he does? He leads the league with most fourth. Quarter points twenty seven points last night And it was was Wa- watching Clippers and blazers in their throwback uniforms and buffalo braves is what is what the The clippers wearing the clippers looked like they were wearing old old trailblazer uniforms in the trailblazers. Looked like they were all wearing. Old Clipper uniforms. It was really bizarre and confusing to watch but this is why they load manage they. I don't care. Fifty grand hair doesn't matter sorry fans you thought you'd see him against the bucks the other night. This is what they're gonNA do and they're now six and three As many wins the Lakers right now through nine games of this very young season so That happened last night. What else there's also a rumor that My network might be losing another guy in prime yell. I saw that one st man to be the new coach there and I want to give you my two cents on all that. So may ox up. I do you ever poll question over there. Yeah you know. I'm going pretty simple today. A Monster Monster College football game tomorrow presenting simple who's got LSU al.. I want to ask that of Mike but I will ask him about the evaluation of that game best. 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I called him yesterday on this show before the game my offensive rookie of the year candidate right now. clubhouse leader there and we'll put the board up here from our Los Angeles Broadcasting Centre crew last night Cleland feral Max crosby three combined sacks two and a half from the kid fairly clearly his best game as a pro hunter renfro all three catches three four catches resulted in a first down. That's could Alec ingold from Wisconsin undrafted rookie free agent his first career touchdown and again again Jacobs is fourth in the NFL rushing. That is part of the rookie class. That was drafted by my guy mic. Mac and I do believe before we get Mike Del. Tufo we have exclusive richeisenshow sound of Ham of him. Celebrating last night's victory correct A. G. W. Cafod unforgettable the Nicole well Mike here on the rich Eisen. Show the general manager of the Oakland Raiders. He is Mike Mike. May I call you. Mike Awesome Rich. We really had to go there This man man you know these are good dessert. Look yes we did have to go there quite frankly we did how. How how what does this Obviously look you know marathon not sprint. You know anything can happen. It's a crazy crazy league that said as you feel right like now five and four after that last night that win in the black hole where everybody's going crazy in Oakland your feelings are what right now. Mike On the positive side rich. I think we've got a group of of kid that compete and that's the most important thing to me as we're trying to build a foundation But we're we're five and four. We're we're not. We're not a great football team by any stretch. We've got a long way to go and I think the important thing is we got and I learned this years years and years ago. It every day if you get a little bit better just every single day at tiny bit better and keep that your focus. It's a powerful the fourth model multiplier over season. And that's what I hope. I'm not worried about playoffs. I'm not worried about records. I'm worried about this young team. Keeping their focus. And I'm just trying to get a tiny bit better every single that that kid Jacobs's special Mike you. When did you first see how special he could be well? I've I've told this story often but real quickly. I mean when I took the job was plus or minus January first last year and the National Championship game was in San Francisco Cisco right down the road from Oakland so I went to the game and I watched a bunch tape and love them but remember. I'm like five days on the job here with goes gruden and I came back from the game and back to the office that night and put together a seven play. Cut Off of Josh Jacobs. And if you're GONNA play running back for Jon Gruden first you gotTa pass the deck then you gotta catch the ball and finally we can talk about you as a running back and I put a seven play real together where it was him. I'm knocking defensive. Ends on their three times and past bro him catching two passes and then finally to run and at five thirty the next morning or whatever I walked in the the John Office and said I want you to watch guy. We'll take them in the first round and like Mike and Jen. It's January. There's no way and I'm like coach. Just Watch at seven plays with me and we watch the seven plays and all of a sudden he was like he's pretty good Mike and I and and say he was on our radar. Early would be fair and we tracked them all the way through. I gotTa Tell You Mike when you mentioned pass pro and obviously catching and running. And just the way that he does pass protect and the way that he can smoothly catch out of the backfield and the way that he caught so quickly and the violence with which chee runs and the way that he runs and carries people after contact. I'm watching and I'm thinking who does he remind me of reminds me of somebody. Sorry and I'll tell you. He reminds me Zeke. He looks like Zeke Elliot to me and I'm wondering how far off you think I am well and I mean to you to paraphrase. Bill parcells from thirty years ago. Yes let's not go and anoint him or anything you know. Oh He's nine games into his career and we're cautiously optimistic and what's cool riches. He doesn't look like he's two hundred. Twenty four pounds but he is and his lateral quickness is outstanding. You know he didn't run a great forty. And I was at the Alabama pro day praying. He would run slow. I mean I I was literally literally the finish line came in and hope it would be bad because I knew that would turn some people so I think lateral quickness is ability to make people miss his pass protection his hand and the cool thing is. He's you know it looks like the plays blocked for one yard and he gets four and then it looks like you're blocking get for four and he gets ten so If this kid takes care of all the details he's got a chance to be pretty good. Do you know what it's been a while since I was on a broadcast with you Mike where I gave my opinion in terms of an evaluation and held my breath to see if you agreed with me or not. It's been a while while I felt like I felt like it's been two thousand six through two thousand eighteen all over again right there. I got to be up. I feel feel like I spent most of those well for fourteen years watching you play with your phone under the table I am. I was actually when I was doing that. I was paying attention to something called twitter. That you always pooh-poohed Mike you know I still the check my last tweet. It was probably before I took the job A. B. Cell maybe so art Brockman that Mike Mayock here on the rich Eisen show best game out of Feral as well and that was interesting. How back when it was two thousand six to two thousand eighteen and if you had gone on NFL networks? I liked this feral kid and then somebody didn't draft him in the top five. They'd say what's wrong with my general manager and then you actually were a general manager and did it Moore somewhat criticized for the pick. What do you think of his development Mike? I think he is that we thought he was and He's not flashy He's going to be a really good. NFL NFL player I don't think we helped them at times. I mean we asked them to play a bunch inside and that's hard he's never played inside and his life So so He kind of took one for the team from because we have to do some thank you never done before. The last two games the last two games. He's been outside only really. I thought the second half of Detroit game a week ago he started to come on Against a pretty good tackle and then last night He plash ashed some of what I think. We hope to see more than he stout against the run and he's a power got just enough slip to be a good past adds asser also so I'm happy. People got to see a little bit of what we think. He can be a few minutes here with. Mike Mayock Raiders General Manager. Here on the rich Eisen show what what have you learned about being a GM of through your first several months on the job that you didn't know or you thought you needed to learn going in Mike it's It's twenty four seven twelve months a year You're on call every ended up every day. there's really never downtime where you just Kinda to get this. Take a step back and go well You know I WANNA go. Put my feet the sand and drink a beer because there's always something going on But it's also for me rich. One it was all about was the three and a half hours every Sunday were Thursday night. Whatever that's what it's all about in in It was what thirty I texted my six younger brothers and sisters in the locker room before week in right before the kick week one against Denver. I texted my six brothers and sisters and said wow it's been thirty five years between NFL Games for me. I can't I believe how bill and right now I mean the previous times the previous times you played How do you handle the not being able to control? What's going on on the field? How do you handle that? I'm I'm I try to be STOIC. Up My box that I'm not real. It's it's it's an emotional roller coaster and and It's been everything I'd hoped in more rich that's so how much Hard knocks you leave on the cutting room floor. Mike Mayock I sensed it. was you with a pair assessors this past summer just to slicing it up and leaving it on the cutting room floor with a chainsaw. Not Scissors much. Would you do there. I don't think they love me do an NFL films. Mike you go way back with everybody in that building. Come on now I may have ruptured or relationship or two. I'm not sure you know I'M A. I'm a rookie GM. I don't know what I'm doing. I haven't hard knock there. We are and you know I will try to protect my head coach. I was trying to protect their team and I thought that was my job so then were you hiding Jacobs from that too. Because we didn't see him at all. I mean he wasn't on that summer at all Mike. One of the reasons I love this kid kid came to me on the first day of training camp and he said you know hard knocks asked me to do this and somebody else asked me to do that and he said do I have to. I said No. You don't and as a matter of fact if you don't want to do it tell me right now and we'll take care of that and he said I just want to focus on football. I don't want any other distractions attractions. And now in hindsight how good the maturity of the twenty one year old man. His story is amazing. I mean his story is absolutely amazing and Waller did where. Where did he fit into all of this Mike and what what? He's he's become and obviously you've signed him long-term now his story now. I'm glad that got through the hard knock hard knocks goalie. That blew me away. Just see I had no idea about his journey. And how he's wound up a crucial member of your offense. Not just for this year but from Vegas in years to come Mike I thought the the hard knocks crew the NFL films people did a great job detailing that And I went to Darren to make sure it was okay with them and to show you'll his maturity and where he is and it's so Bridie he said Mike. I want to tell my story and I WANNA help people to the extent I can now with my platform And he's he's extremely Mature Intelligent and serious young man who wants to help other people and I think we get so fired up about wins and losses and the NFL and the penalties and the officiating. And we kind of forget about some of these special young men ED and He's one of which he wants to give back. I'm so excited for this kid both personally and professionally. I can't tell you and then just a couple more guys I wanna hit with you Derek Carr Mike obviously You mentioned it's what it takes to be a running back in GRUDEN system. I can only only imagine what it takes to be a quarterback Jon Gruden and how that is meshed and how it might mesh beyond this year so much evaluation of him by a lot of fans and folks positions like mine about how their relationship is. I love the fact that Derek has bought in to what John is preaching and. I think there are a lot of quarterback rich. That could look at our offense right now and say you know. I want to throw the ball. More and We've got a big offensive line. We're running the football. We're getting the ball out quickly in the past game. Name Dirk getting protected He's one of the most accurate quarterbacks in the league when you protect them and his credit he's bought into the whole thing. He's become a leader of this team. And he believes what John Doe and he believes what we're doing believes in the run game I give them a lot of credit. He's spreading the ball around people. Try to take take waller away from us now and you start to see the emergence of say Renfro so Dirk has done a great job of buying into the program and and being accurate and last night we had a two minute drive to win a football game that we're quarterback has to step up and he did on a couple more questions for you To Mike You know We go way back. And you know how I approach my job. I do want to ask you about Antonio Brown whose name is in the news here. Saying he wants wants another. He wants another shot he wants to be back in the league and then he doesn't And he has been very active on social media over the last twenty four forty eight hours. What what do you think should should happen with Antonio Brown Mike Ricci is not my concern anymore? Okay and I will leave it at that but then And now I hear you On I just Felt Anita had to ask you right there And then the last thing from mm you hear this coming weekend Let's put you back a little bit in the role that I've I've enjoyed being with you for so long with Alabama a plane LSU and One versus two In terms of quarterbacks potentially coming out in the draft two things one how big give a game is this in terms of NFL prospects for you Mike as GM huge. As a matter of fact I was supposed to be at that game And I had to cancel. Oh my flight Just because we got some things going on here I gotta I gotTa take care of but it pains me not to be there Tomorrow on the field pre-game pre-game watching all these guys around From a perspective of the draft and prospects. It's one of the Games every ear where every team in every scout is GONNA look at this game about thirty times and it's good against good ones against one. Well you know whatever you want to talk about but you get a true benchmark of the top players in the country playing against each other in a game of magnitude so this game is going to be scrutinized. It's going to be one of the most scrutinized games of the year and then in terms of these two kids at quarterback. Do you think when all push comes to shove on draft night through the talent evaluation. Crucible that that this game could be the difference as to who gets drafted over the other. Mike I don't know who's declaring for the draft and with right went rich puts us in terms in terms generally game where we're going against each other's defenses in a game game where kids who are at the same position could could this make a difference when an evaluation is made push comes to shove on your on o'clock. Let's put it that way. Generally Charlie I think the media focus of Chihuahua versus borough They're never on the field at the same time obviously sleep. I get frustrated with that. I used to get frustrated that in the media. Sometimes I think the point though that you make is a really good one regarding the quality of the opposition so our people if if was to come out when people wanNA focus on him against. LSU's defense absolutely how we performs on a big stage with a ton of pressure absolutely same thing with Joe Borough if he comes out with teams want to focus on him against Alabama's must be absolutely. There are two three four games a year. That are huge for these guys. Coming out of power five conferences. And it's not just. The quarterback is every player on that field on Saturday. And I can't wait to watch it it I ball and television and then I'm going to get the tape out. I'M GONNA love go through that day. I bet so last one for you Mike you think you go to L. A. Florida state pro day for coach Dion Sanders. What do you think what do you think it's out there? Apparently it's out there. Mike Leon Fan cal. No no no dion taking the GIG at Florida state. It's apparently in the out there. Oh Yeah Yeah Yeah let me let me ask you let me flip the tables here. Sure yeah I mean you you went beyond our tight. Thank you would embrace. The grind would a million percent a million percent goal. I do I believe where they were they were they were the hand over my heart. I think he would be absolutely embracing it and you know the way. He is with his kids Whereas has with his youth And his high school and his His truth he is. That's that's real. So I think he would and I and I would love to see a photograph of you and Raiders Gear and him in Florida state gear at a pro day. I mean my gosh collages amazing right well the good news. The good news is you've got an upgrade with Daniel Jeremiah. Strong Davis so you're in good hands and the draft Graf brother. I love you Mike Mayock. I don't care who knows. Take care of Yourself Mike. Okay I appreciate your right back at Ya. That's GM the Oakland Raiders. Soon to be Vegas Raiders. Mike mayock fresh off a big Thursday night win right here on the rich Eisen show so just two things because I want to go to break And on the other side get to dion which is one of the quick things here buddy. I've spoken him so I wanna hit you about how serious this is. I I all air ski and to how May I ask how good he is. A general managing and handling the draft. We saw all those kids yesterday last night how. He fell in love with Josh Jacobs and he had three first round picks any waited for the third one. Do you know how many times you've probably jumping out of his his thing that we've got to go get help now to get out. But no no wait. Hold hold like braveheart hold at. Because he took Abram Abram Jonathan Abram who were waiting to see it come back major injury right exactly he took Abram with the picky got from I'm from the cowboys. or The raiders. got from the cowboys while he was still the NFL network and he waited. He could've taken Jacobs there. They didn't waded still got his guy. Really Amazing eight four four two zero four rich. I've spoken to dion. I WanNa talk about Dion and the Florida State coaching search. That apparently includes him. That's next on the rich Eisen. Show the ferruginous an easy to use hand-held device that helps to relieve tension and increases blood flow thera- gun PERKASA. Therapy is unlike any massage device. You've ever tried designed by a chiropractor it's therapeutic for all body types. It can treat every part of the body Thera- guns triangle design allows you to grip it multiple ways you don't have to strain target hard to reach areas. It also weighs about three pounds so it's easy to pick up and use whether whether you're an athlete apparent business professional fitness enthusiast person experiences pain. Each deragon provides a natural approach to improving your physical health and wellness. Thomas Muscle soreness after work out. Usually makes it difficult to move throughout the day right. 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You'll see all of my wonderful wonderful sponsors and help make this show possible. So thank you for downloading subscribing and of course supporting now back to the show so during the first football game look down at the old twitter feeds and see my compadres My follow and also Ian rapoport report comes out. During Thursday night football that Dion Sanders is emerging as a candidate for the vacancy for head coach of Florida. State date while so. Let's just take this one step at a time. Here Okay I immediately say he would be great. I return amazing. He'd be amazing at it me too. You know because we know him now. I'm already seeing it at the the was the Local local newspaper in Tallahassee Democrat. I guess it's called saying that sources say that he is is not a leading candidate or being considered as one by Florida state by the coaching. Search and I will say this to those in charge of that search. You're making taking aim mistake. You are making a big mistake now. Then take it one at a time I. I spoke to him today. He's serious about this you Mike May I kinda say do you think he'd he'd he be up for the grind. You Bet he would be and not just him he would bring together a whole host of people. You didn't tell me who says that the coordinators would blow you away. Because they're already he's GonNa come with a staff and he's GonNa come with an idea and he's GonNa come with the concept and he's GonNa come with Dion Sanders easily. The most popular guy. I've ever walked through an airport with and I'm sure people when they hear my saying it's like you can't win football games. Because you're popular Miller Julia well he will be able to walk into any bodies home and immediately gain gain interest in the child and parents and vice versa including apparently Lebron James who has tweeted out in favor of this idea earlier today. Lebron sang man. It would be so dope and just seems perfect for prime time to be the right one thing about it he would get in in any household on the planet to talk with kid slash parents Hashtag. It's time for prime. I've seen it. I've seen it at combines. Lines kids flock to him. Now how serious would he be as a coach. He has been so serious about his truth program and Youth Youth Sports and coaching where he coaches right now for Trinity Christian Cedar Hill High School in Texas. You don't see him on. Nfl Oh network that much anymore. He's that serious about it. He so serious about it when he got into the pro football hall of fame at the Super Bowl the night of the announcement where he became a pro football hall of Famer First Ballot Hall of Famer. He was pissed that he had to leave practice to go and be part of the announcement because not only was the ring removed from coaching. It would undercut his ability to look at kids and say it's about team not individual achievement. That's how serious he is about this. And you know you're seeing names like Bob stoops thrown out there like this and I'm I'm sure he would do a terrific job. Oklahoma fans would say that too. He's got you know He. He doesn't have nearly the roots with Florida state as Dion. And here's what Florida sorta state could do by. Hiring Dion is break. The mold set a trend that clearly we see in the NBA World and clearly we see in the Major League Baseball World War. David Rawson Aaron Boone. No experience just stroll in Aaron Boone Winning back to back hundred when seasons for for the Yankees David. Ross don't bat an eye on the cubs hire him from a booth. He's got no experience at this NBA. Jason Kidd I mean we could go on and on and on and on about guys who could come off the bench in airplane experiencing their vast hall of fame. Experience is good enough for those sports. Why and football? We have read on the show the other day when he came on and Susie and Marshall had him. Johnny said the same thing on a hall of fame player. I know XS and OS. I know how to motivate so. Just because I haven't beaten the Coaches Circuit Circuit what wilderness for fifteen. Twenty years. Doesn't mean I can get a shot here. Dion whatever plan dion would have a staff Daf dion would have the cachet of deal. Who else has that in in the coaching world and the college world do a whole lot worse? That's for sure and he'd be up for it. He sounded up for it when I smoked him. He wants it. He wanted a Florida state. You've been down and out. Why not turn to the guy who would come with a plan and the staff and CACHET and a buzz and high step at into the ACC and hold it up? Let's go I'm telling you it's go. I'm telling you and if it succeeds do you know how many other schools would say okay. He he's broken ground everything with everything that he's done. This is what Edwards talking about exactly. It's and he's there taking in his school needs somebody like him to step in and say I got it. And he's he's a businessman from the minute. He was stepped on the campus. There too now he would be the CEO of this operation. He knows how to be the CEO of an operation. It's it's time to bring back prime time but ono else's done anything like this before. Well there's only one dion sanders. That's for sure I've seen it. I've seen it in person. He knows about teamwork he knows about business. He knows how to run on something and certainly the day age where kids are going to start saying. I can make name my money off my name. Nyquist an image whose perfect coach to try and share in that era the on our to coming up football season is here and it's time to dominate the competition with your fantasy picks and RJ bells green preview on podcast. One sports net. Is Your secret weapon victory. I said the fact. They didn't

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Franchise tags didn't exist, but they do. So, you know, I'm just I'm fascinated with this draft. I just wrote an article today on the athletic about Nick about I wrote last week about Nick Bosa wrote today about Clinton Williams as up today Thursday. If you listen to this Friday you described the athletic, you know, gives my. Thoughts on them some of my friends in the NFL's thoughts on him. They love him. I think he's the best player in this draft the best defensive lineman in this right now, he's a tackle. But he he's pretty special. I'm not the biggest Nick Bosa guy, and we'll we'll get into that a little later. Obviously, we always do the middlekauff mail bag fire into my DM's at John middlekauff. My Twitter handle my Instagram handle easiest way to get hold me before this podcast. Three now podcast. We do middlekauff mail back. I know we get a lot of new listeners every week. I answer questions. So you can ask me literally, everything anything. In the middle Gabrielle bag, and I will answer it here on the podcast. Good solid. Thursday been watching the masters. I waited for to end the masters was just absolutely fantastic today. I made if you don't like golf, I can't relate to you. I love it. It's probably my second favorite sport beside football. And there's nothing better than the masters. You know, maybe the Super Bowl maybe the final four. So I've been dialed in and recording this about five o'clock on Thursday afternoon. But but I wanted to start with this. I thought Mike Mayock this time of year every general manager it's mandatory that they speak. So you look around the league, I think Dell check spoke the other day Mayock spoke Thursday. And I thought he had just a great comment that really got me thinking it's something I've been thinking about anyway, just with the raiders. And I think it parallels. A lot of franchises in. Honestly, it doesn't relate to a lot of the good ones. Necessarily. I think there's a balance in every building in an air building. I think John will roll the dice a little more. And I think I'm a little more conservative. And I think that's a good balance. You know, we've ounce off ourselves all the time. We have some spirited meetings with the coaching staff were there. Banging the table for kid. And I might say he's got way too many red flags only wanna consider him at that spot. And then we get into it. So I think that's healthy. And I think everybody that I've ever talked to that's sat in this chair has talked about the same thing healthy discourse between the coaches the scouts, and and trying to come to those kinds of agreements on those kinds of players know, there's no question for me that your coach is always going to be the highest paid guy in the organization. But if you look at any business in corporate America, right? They have the CEO's and all these CEO's Wells Fargo Bank of America, Google wherever any of these major companies net flicks just making a godly amount of money. Right. Well, it's funny. He's my account works in downtown San Francisco, and I'm probably as pours client. No, I'm pretty confident. I am his pores client, and I was asking questions like what kind of? Do some of these guys make they'll tell you stories like, yeah, I got this guy. Google he's got a W two of like twenty million dollars. And again, I don't live in necessarily a normal area. We have outlier executives, but when you hear some of these stories about yeah. The CFO of so-and-so company, he won't necessarily give me exactly who it is. But yeah, W twos before bonuses or nineteen million dollars twenty three million dollars. These people in Silicon Valley make an athlete money, but they're not even the CEO of the company, but these companies rely on that person, and if you've ever listened to a CEO talk, there's a reason they have COO's and CFO's g operating officer cheap. Chief financial officer chief marketing officer, you hire those guys to do a job and in a big company. Yeah, you're si yo might make just stupid money. Right. Fifty sixty million whatever Roger Goodell fifty million dollars his right hand guy is still making good cash, and you depend. On in like Mayock said to me talked about the discourse and healthy discourse. To me. There is no growth in any high level business. And that's what NFL team is without a little confrontation like confrontation is healthy, the PC America would tell you know, everyone being nice to each other. Let's all hold hands and Kuhn by all. And it's Tom Izzo would say good luck getting bouncing the tournament plan that way. But to me the scariest thing about Jon Gruden Mike Mayock most of us if you listen to podcasts you clearly follow the NFL, Mike max, really smart, and we've all seen his work for the last fifteen years, then very transparent. He's for the most part. He's nailed a lot of the guys. I think he is an excellent value waiter, and John and even when he was hired. He said, you know, what this is a coach driven organization. John is the boss. He said it again today and the thing that makes me nervous for my raider fan. Friends is that Mike Mayock the thing every CEO in the country is not good at everything. But they are. There's a reason they were CEO, and it usually if they're successful CEO. They're probably a good decision maker, whatever whatever their strengths, but they also have weaknesses. So usually when you have weaknesses you put people around you the can make up for that. And that's that person. Strength will Mike may ox strength is going to be the draft. And the thing that would terrify me and the raiders to me are one of the great. I mean, they're in one of the most unique situations we've ever seen that we've ever seen. They have three first round picks have four picks in the top thirty five. I don't ever remember that happening going into the draft. You might have to do some research. I don't think it's ever happened. Now there have been teams remember several years ago. The Minnesota Vikings pick three players in the first round. I think Anthony Barr. Teddy Bridgewater and Floyd the defensive tackle from Florida that ended up messing up his knee. It's kind of avidly I think he's actually suing the Vikings. But they traded back into the first round to me this situation for the raiders one of the reasons they have two first rounders is because one they traded away. If we'd say Aaron Donald is the best player in the league non quarterback Khalil Mack. What's the second best player in the league? They traded away the second best player in the league. Let's one of the reasons you got him, and then Amari Cooper who flawed player, but you still drafted him fourth overall and Mayock as people like when MAC I got the job. Yeah. That's pretty nuts. Then I started texting my buddies. Because when I worked in Philly may worked in jersey he used to come through Philly. How used to back before I pads and stuff was crazy is I haven't been around that long my last year in the league and thirteen that's when I pads game into the NFL. So the first couple of years a guy like Mike Mayock he wanted to watch film. He either have to go to NFL films or come into the actual eagles building where we had all the film, and then he'd watch it. So a lot of guys on that staff knew Mike pretty well. And they said, you know, what he's not gonna take much Bs and from what I've heard he's. Stood his ground on several times with Gruden and in from the information that I have took the right stance, but grew overruled them. So I never understand. What is the point in in saying, someone's your general manager, we John we know you have the power you make all the money? But that doesn't mean you shouldn't empower this guy. Pete Carroll makes more money than John Schneider. John Schneider picks the players Andy Reid makes way more money than breath. Br ve each now picks the players in Kansas City. Those two franchise are extremely healthy. Jon Gruden out of probably all the coaches in the NFL now, some of these younger guys, I don't know anything about the floors, and whatever I can't even speak to their ability to evaluate players. But I know for a fact like I have information Jon Gruden is a terrible evaluator. And I always find it funny on Twitter when you go like Jon Gruden cannot pick players. Oh, you know way more football than you. Yeah. Coaches know a lot of football. But there's. The reason that a ton of coaches are not allowed to draft players. They do not look at it. Like, a guy a personnel person. Like myself would GM's even like some of the fans they can't see sometimes before before the trees trees before the force of my screwed up that analogy, but my point they can't see the big picture. They think so short term because in fairness to them. They're kind of living short term, but Mayock who could really help groom and who likes fighting who likes being aggressive one of the reason Gruden ran all over ran all over Reggie McKenzie. He's perfect form. But you gotta listen to him. And he's banging the table for players. And he's telling you, hey, listen, the thing that I heard this story probably two months ago chip Kelly one draft. I think it was like levian bell Davante Adams Jarvis Landry. Appreciate all. These guys are in the same draft. Chip it take it all these guys off the board. Whether it was character. Whether he didn't think they could. Play for whatever reason. And my buddy awhile back was like you should have seen or do not draft board. It was basically like the two thousand seventeen proble chip who's probably worse than Gruden had for this quote on quote, super sharp guy knew nothing about value and understanding. Hey, listen, you can take this guy in the second round. You don't need to take them in the first round. He's like Jordan Mathews in the top ten. You would. That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard. And some of these coaches, they would do that like if you just gave Jon Gruden full reign. He'll do what he did last year. He'll draft Arden key who stinks PJ hall who looks like an undrafted free agent. Brandon parker. There was going to get Derek Carr. Kilt. Those were three picks one in the second round and two others in the third round. You cannot let I mean he can let himself do whatever you want because he has absolute power. But be smart. He has to think like any empowered CEO you have to trust your people. You do have to trust your. There's a reason you hired Mike mail and. He's uniquely qualified for this job. Now, he's never done it. But we have there's a lot of transparent information. I know what he's thought about players for the last decade. I know that he thought Khalil Mack was the best player in that draft several years ago. He he was not wire on that. Everyone's gotta take clowning. He's like, no, I take Khalil Mack one. Everyone's like, Mike, you're in idiot. Well, five years later turns out actually cloudy. He's pretty good too. But he was right. And that was that was a tough thing to say, and he's a guy with balls. He's a guy with conviction, but if Gruden doesn't listen to them this great situation in this opportunity with pick four pick twenty four and twenty seven is Gruden going to be picking the wrong players. That's where if I was another NFL team. I would actually be kinda glad that knowing that gruden's probably not gonna listen this guy and the wrong players are gonna come off the board. If he does listen to Mike and a guy that's gonna have conviction a guy that's going to believe. Just like any good, you know, executive. That's not the CEO in a major company does then they can be really successful talking to guide in the NFL. Probably I think it was actually earlier this week. He's like actually when you look at the raiders offseason. They added Antonio Brown if he can just keep shift together, Tyrone Williams, a good player. They got rid of Brandon Parker and Trent Brown if they crushed this draft again when I say crush the draft if you just if they hit on three of the four picks in the top thirty five even if they missed on four let's say they took Rashawn Gerry any just not any good as a rookie. Well, they hit on two players in the twenty s and then pick thirty five get like three legit stars. That's a lot. You know, think about it? Most teams are dying to land three starters in a draft. If you have seven or eight picks just get three starters, the difference is if you're drafting in the top thirty five you're not just getting starters, if they are start getting potential impact players, but I have zero faith on him doing a good job. Because I don't think he'll listen to me. And I've already heard some sources or some stories from sources that like, yeah, they're already button heads and may feels like he's not listened to anything. He's saying because in MAC, new what? He's getting into and people like everyone. I get this on Twitter a lot. He knew what he signed up for. Yeah. But you also think like, listen, we're both grownups your. Why wouldn't he listen to me? He's paying me whatever they're paying a couple million bucks a year. Why wouldn t listen to me what my expertise is like I do this. Well, and some people are just so stubborn whether it's whether it's ego. Whether it's just an inability, I really think with most guys just ego. It's just ego and power hungry. And I think Gruden has a lot of that. But I'm really fascinating the way this drafts going to go for the raiders because I don't think at the end of the day's gonna listen to anything excess. Let me tell you about my friends at Robin Hood, Robin Hood is investing app that let you buy and sell stocks ETF's options and cryptos all commission. Free other brokerages charge up to ten dollars. Forever. Trade Robin Hood doesn't charge any commission fees. So you can trade stocks and keep all your profits. Plus there is no account minimum. We've all dealt with. Before you have to put a certain amount in there to hit, you know, a entry level investing. That's not the case here. Simple intuitive design of robinhood makes investing easy for newcomers and experts alike view, easy to understand charts and market data in place a trade in just four taps on your smartphone. 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Again, I don't know how substantial they are that that group, Steve and his scouts might be in trouble. Now, I didn't necessarily it almost seems for fetched because we'll what's cliff kings were going to do. He needs a good GM. But I do think there's a reason that they hadn't traded Josh Rosen yet. I do think there is pressure right now coming from the own. Owner who's franchise just gotten barest for the last year to get a first round pick for Josh Rosen. And it doesn't feel like they're going to. So they're almost holding out hope, but at the end of the day, I do think Josh Rosen gets traded. And I do think Murray's on the team. Well, and I've been saying this for while feels like a bay area podcast, I'm doing, but what happens when you your teams draft really high stink around this time of year is that whoever John Lynch takes with the number two overall pick assuming Cava Marie goes one will immediately tell you who they viewed as the best player in the draft. Now that guy isn't necessarily going to be the best player in the draft. I mean, the best player in the draft or even the best defensive lineman of this group could be sweat could be Rashawn Gary could be Quinn could be whoever. But whoever he takes it to. We'll tell you who he viewed as the top dog, and I wrote an article yesterday for the athletic. If you're listening on Friday came out on Thursday. So yesterday, I actually wrote. Three days ago. But I said that Quinn Williams and my philosophy when you're taking in the top five, I'm not trying to hit doubles. I'm swinging for the fences because I would rather strike out in a draft situation that just hit a single like I watched what the Niners did with Solomon Thomas. Solomon Thomas is never going to make a Pro Bowl never going to sniff approachable, but he's gonna play in the league for like nine ten years. If Solomon Thomas was like a fifth fourth round pick. No one would be saying shit. Everyone would be that guy. That's good fine late in the draft. But they took him third overall. Now, he was a low ceiling guy, but it felt like he had high floor while turns out his floors, not even that high, and that's a risky part about just trying to hit a double is. You're thinking I'm taking a low floor. It's like it's like an investment, you can think you're making a good investment. And I played in this Gulf skins game the other day with this guy that built these condos that that he was going to be. He was like sixteen units. And he's only sold six of them any thought he was going to have all sixteen sold. Got. It was the easiest delayed ever done a thought he'd have moss hold a year ago. And now he can't get the other ten office hands. And it just shows you anytime in anything in life in anyone will tell you this in any walk alive. There are no sure things whether it's players whether it's investments whether it's relationships whether it's anything so would you look at the top five in the draft. If you're drafting like the forty Niners at number two. I am taking the guy that I believe has the highest ceiling because it would be easy to justify Nick Bosa. And I wrote this in the article, I think he's a really good player. And I think he's ready made. I think you can come in get nine ten sacks. But I don't I don't think he's as good as his brother and his brother's fantastic. His brother was a better college player than him. And I compared him the last group of players Myles Garrett ceiling clearly much higher. You know, the von. Miller's Khalil Bax the clowns. Those guys are in a different class. I would put closer to the Bradley Chubb mold in Bradley, Chubb, probably a better player. I actually think if I had to rank them I would say Bradley over Nick Bosa Bradley at twelve sacks. Now, I don't ever think Bradley Chubb. I would for the next ten years. I'll take Myles Garrett. I guess ten would be long for a defensive lineman next six years at rather Myles Garrett. Then Bradley Chubb, I'm taking the guy just with the higher ceiling that isn't necessarily mean the Bradley Chubb is going to be Myles Garrett will be have a better career than Bradley Jay up. But I am swinging for the fences. I'm trying to hit a Bryce Harper grand slam and to me in this draft. If I'm the forty Niners or if the Niners are willing to trade the pick. It's not even a question. I haven't really studied Josh Allen. But just from talking to the people I trust the most in the league, I feel pretty confident that Quinn Williams of these top three guys has the highest ceiling. He's been a one year starter, and you go why'd you only short one year. I don't know this guy. Doron pain went thirteen in the draft last year will. Starting above them. Alabama. It's really difficult to crack starting lineup because the guy above you. It's not like that dude zone insurance. Now. No, those type guys usually go in the top twenty. So the guy above you was a lock first round pick. But then when he got his chance like he's a better player than drawn pain. And that's why he's going pro. But I think to me like just comparing him now him and Bosa play different positions. But any good drafter will tell you can't worry about that crap. That's what coach is worrying about take the best player available. And it's easy to say that not a lot of people live by it because coaches do not live by it. They like to fill needs. And when you fill needs you get in trouble when it's a situation where you already got Ford, you get Williams or Bosa you're getting pressure, and the thing I wrote in that article, and I was tipped off by a friend. And I think we've all been talking about this. I've been thinking about this for a while. It's easier to get interior pressure right now than it is outside pressure. From the sense that the tackles in this league, actually, aren't that? Terrible on the whole the guards in centers for the most part or average to below who whoever you are listening to this. You know, I know there's fans of literally every team for the most part. I bet you go. Yeah. We got a centers. Okay. But our guard stink. Yeah. We've got one good guard, but our other center and guards suck. That's usually the way. That's why Aaron Donald Fletcher Cox Chris Jones deforest Buckner last year on the Niners played on a team with no other good defensive line Solomon Thomas stunk. Eric Armstead got hurt. Caches Marsh was their best pass rhetoric caches Marsh yet most of you guys have never heard of any dominate because most of the guards he's facing on a weekly basis stink. So if you can get Quinton Williams to go with d Ford and to force Buckner who's already a fringe pro bowler. And you get four to double digit sack guy who how do you block winning Williams and deforest Buckner? I don't know the other thing about winning Williams. A lot of people compare him to warn sack like he's that. Type gets on guys angles. His quickness his instincts for making plays in the backfield. I'm just not passing on Warren Sapp for you know, I'm not going to call Nick an overachiever because he's not he's a really good player. But I just don't see some perennial Pro Bowl. I definitely don't see some elite All-Pro Quinta Williams can be an all pro. And again, I think if you stick by the philosophy not disobey best player or vailable. But if you have the guy stack the same view, Nick, bows, and quinoa, let's say I view them as the same level prospect. You gotta take the guy with the higher ceiling. If you consistently do that. Because you're going to miss no matter what. But if when you hit on the guy with the higher ceiling sky's the limit. I mean, you get all pros you get all pros. 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Listen to disgrace Santa the iheartradio app apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Let's get to the middlekauff mailbag at John middlekauff is my Instagram handle you slide up in those DM's. And then I answer your questions here on the podcast John from Ireland and a big colts fan in reference to the PI in the reviewable challenges changes in rugby. When a wrong decision is made the television match. Official. So there's you know, I guess if you had a rule official in the TV crew is in the ear of the ref and pointed out this is normally if it's an obvious penalty. Would this not be a better option instead of adding more delays challenges to the game process of a ref going to a TV booth? That's interesting baseball kinda does something like this. They get back with the league office. I guess football those the same thing. I don't know if it's that realistic. I do think you've got to have to stop the game. Because what if we see this a lot seems like sterotype wars? Right. But some of the other rules officials in the TV booth have been wrong. I forget the one guy's name. But he was on. Yeah. I think the do was on Monday night football. Whoever the old guy was on Monday night. Football was terrible consistently wrong. I just don't think the standard maybe that works in Ireland. Maybe rugby, I don't know enough about rugby penalties. Maybe they're a little more black and white in football. And it's gonna be a problem. This fall is they're going to be really really subjective. They're going to be a lot like NBA fouls where you could reverse it. You could keep it. I think it would be difficult, and I think just as football fan, and I I don't know longer really have a team anymore. But because I gamble crew for certain teams. I would be incensed if the team I was gambling on that happened and said of the coach being able to review it or challenge or whatever the TV booth. Whoever was in the you know, the referee on the set was in charge of giving. It like a thumbs opera. Thumbs down like, I wouldn't be cool with that. I don't think the league would either has deck already earned his contract extension or does he need to engineer. A deep playoff run this season. Depending on how that goes does Jerry keep an eye on the quarterbacks in next year's draft. The the thing about football. You know, probably I guess the other sports are like this to but in football you evaluate every position every year, basically to the max, so I think you're always locked in your area scouts or whoever is, you know, if you're going into Clemson, you're going at Alabama just because you have a quarterback does not mean, the you're not evaluating those positions. So that that's never a worry to me back to earn it. He just needs to play. Well, you know, if they win nine ten games, they're competing for a wildcard, I got no problem paying him. But if he plays poorly in the team is just good like on paper there a playoff team if he's just solid. They should be in the playoffs it, so if you just solid I got no problem paying them at least decent money. I'm not paying Dak Prescott historic cash really unless he makes legit gets me to the Super Bowl. Maybe if he gets me the NFC championship game. I think about it even then unless he takes a huge step. I'm not. In the pay Dak big money. No matter what he doesn't have the physical skills to be Aaron Rodgers to be a Russell Wilson. But if you wins and keeps playing kind of like he has he needs to be a little better earlier in games. I think his my favorite attribute about him. Is these good Layton games when you're not God's kind of nut cut in time. Dak is really under control and places best football. But to be eleven twelve win team this next year. He has to have more games where he plays well in the first and second quarter. That's in the second half. He's got start hitting some of the deep balls. And. Yeah. At the end of the day if they don't pay him this off season, I would expect their rooting now. Obviously they'd be rooting for them but expecting him to make a deep playoff run to get paid. Hey, hey, John big falcons fan. What do you think they should do this off season to make another playoff on one? They gotta get healthy. I thought last year they were a playoff level team in the injuries just decimated their defense. I mean, their defense was absolutely decimated. One thing. I was thinking, you know, it's kind of the elephant in the room right now or the Texans gonna a trade cloudy, if you're the falcons, could you double down, and maybe trade your first round pick four clowning. The problem is for them to look at the draft. Or what are they draft in the late teens mid teens? I mean, they didn't have very good season. They went five or six or are they draft in the top ten so maybe never mind on that one. Actually, I have to look what they're drafting. But it's not as low as I thought so you probably wouldn't trade for cloudy. You just draft a guy at Oliver someone like that. And you just get let your guys come back on defense because on offense you got Maddie ice say what you want about Maddie ice. He's fine. When you got Julio Jones Calvin Ridley they got players. Devante Freeman should be healthy. They lost to the Niners but backup running backs or replaceable. Yeah. I I think the falcons will be about vaccine for sure. I seem to be one of the few fans that actually liked in. Appreciate a tannehill sad to see him. Go. Do you think the dolphins are planning for an off year and hopes the drafting two and two thousand twenty? I'm with you. When tannehill played he was solid the problem with Dana hill, and I think why Miami had to move on. You can hold onto a guy like tannehill for ten years because he has these moments like how do we ever upgrade you win some games when he's there, and then he gets her, and then he comes back, and he does the same thing. And then he gets hurt then he goes back. He does the same thing that he gets hurt us can't depend on them. I I think Tanny hills better than a lot of us thought that he would ever be when he was healthy like what he became those first couple years with with Adam gates, really what he was doing before. He got hurt that first time when they made the playoffs and that more came in to me, though, you just when you get a guy like that. And he's kind of like a poor man's version of what Sam Bradford was. They just tease you tease ya. It's like, you know, we've all any guys experienced that with girls like t's eventually, you just like, okay, I'm out. I'm not I'm not doing this anymore. And I think that's what they're alternate decision. In was with tannehill. Like, I'm over this tease. I can't do it anymore. I gotta take the sunk cost and just move on on the flip side. I think it's a good move for Tennessee getting him as the backup quarterback Fisher. If Ryan tannehill is your backup quarterback, you're in pretty good shape. I'm thinking about it right now. He's the best backup quarterback in the NFL. Now that foles isn't a backup poor whose lives better backup quarterback than Ryan tannehill. In the great thing about it. He doesn't have the plight. Right. Hell, but more because Marietta struggling or guests hurt. Maybe he does play. I can I get a fall back. Don't ask for fall Bax second. What is the percentage of the Kyle Murray going to the Rams zero no chance like none? Absolutely. None. He's going to go to the cardinals. I'm not a big fan. When you go fall back. If you do good stuff, and you're entertaining on social media on Instagram on Twitter off, all you. I'm open minded, I don't you. Don't just have to have be Kim Kardashian or Peter King or Colin to get a follow follow. I follow the people. If you're if you're good, you know, you gotta be creative. Hey, John big fan over here in the UK guy. We got a lot of international listeners columnists have a big falling in the UK. Do you think the NFL will ever change kick-off times for Sunday games to make them more UK and European friendly? No zero chance their bread and butter is America. So to me the entire television schedule it they don't even care about me living in California. They care about one consumer in. That's the eastern time zone in maybe maybe the central times onto Dallas Chicago. They care about the eastern seaboard and a couple of the major cities Chicago the Packers brand. In the Cowboys. They. Put the Niners raiders Seattle. They don't care at all. They care about wins. The cowboy game wins giant's game was DC with Philly when when's the Steelers and the patriots even the jets like those are enormous markets. So yeah, I don't think they'll ever build it around the UK when is the UK. So they are head of us. So I guess that one the early early morning game that happens for me like out west the six thirty kickoff, which is nine thirty eastern kickoff. Which is actually a what a twelve thirty UK kickoff off. It's kind of cool for you guys. I guess you get once a year out of six seventeen weeks. Do you think there's a possibility of the Cowboys getting in on the Josh Rosen market and moving off Dak Prescott to avoid the big contract. I actually haven't heard this from anyone. But that's kind of genius. Here's the problem. The Cowboys don't have first round pick. They have a second round pick. But would you give up a second round pick? When you already have Dak Prescott who's better than Josh Rosen right now. And also where I stand on deck. You don't have to pay him right now. So this year, I don't know exactly what he's making. But he's making like eight hundred grand. He he's not making any money. Josh Rosen's making more money this year than deck now, obviously, you don't have to pay Josh Rosen maybe ever. But definitely not for several years were Dak it's really this off season or next offseason. Even if I mean, if you franchise, but still cash twenty five twenty six million dollars, whatever the franchise tag would be hell it might even be more than that. Given what the average salaries are. And how they're going up. Not the craziest of ideas. I'll give you that. I just that is very very risky and I like Josh Rosen. But I know for a fact I can make the playoffs with Dak Prescott with my team being good. I do not know that if that's Josh Rosen at all like there is a chance that Josh Rosen. Just not good and you put them on the Cowboys instincts, though, I think he'd be pretty good there events is good. He's got Zeke Jason wins back. You gotta Mari yacht. Gallup maybe they draft a couple offense skill guys this draft. It's actually not that crazy. I like heads at looked into Bose's dad in why his career ended, and he was quoted as saying he blood both of his knees. Joe is missed thirteen games in three years. And Nick as we know as miss more than half the season this year also towards senior in college. Is this a concern that he's still a top three pick considering the whole family is riddled with injuries one thousand percent to me, I wrote this in the article on Bosa Williams is that Nick Boza is benefiting from Joey success, and that's not a bad thing. Like part of Nick one of Nick's positive. Is this lineage that comes from dad played in the NFL in a draft room? That's important. You know, this guy is better rounded his whole life. It's like when you hire our coach. This guy's dad was a coach they think a little differently. So his lineages last name or important, then his brother is not just a good player. He's a dominant player. So you go that works in his favor you go. Well, a lot of people thought Joey wasn't going to be that great of an NFL player. And he's exceeded. Everyone's expectation so Mick who actually physically very similar to him. He's getting kind of like propped up based on that. But I also think you have to look at on the flip side, you go like you said his dad is career washed out because he blew up these his brother has had some weird injuries a foot une- Hammy just kind of an injury problem. I don't think he's as good as his brother, whatever neck Bose's medical check was yet check his knee because he's towards ACL and the sports hernia that he had this year. I got to rely on my doctors. That's the thing if you're John Lynch or Mike Mayock or Mike mccaddon or any of these guys. You're not a doctor. You're you're you're a glorified. I mean, you are a scout. You more of a glorified manager. You know, being the general manager dealing with a lot of stuff, but you do. Do not know anything about medical stuff. So you are very reliant in the great part is if you're of the forty Niners with the giants. I mean, you got like the Stanford medical team. If you're if you're the jets, you got the best doctors in New York. So you've got to rely on those guys. It's the one thing in football where you can go gut. You know, this guy is going to be okay. If the doctor, and this were always kind of support Trent bulky, he took all those ACL guys. Well, the Stanford medical team that the forty Niners employ told him that all those guys we're going to bounce back on what bulky supposed to say. No, man. I know you got a Harvard Medical degree you've worked at Stanford hospital for twenty years. But I think this guy's never going to bounce back. You are very dependent on your doctors when it comes to injuries. So if the doctors go, you know, what I think Nick Bosa if you look at his family's medical history, which I'm sure came up in the doctor's meeting. You know, I'm not quite that comfortable, then as a gentleman after you better not be comfortable either. But if the guy gives you the full Bill of health says, you know, what he's fond. You gotta just kind of think he's gonna be fine. Last week it. I bet by buddy one hundred dollars the raiders win five or less games. Six is a push in the fact in after the fact, I checked in Vegas has them at six and a half went knocking ally. There may have been a little alcohol and shit talking involved. Then there do you think I'm going to be one hundred dollars richer fine. January come January. Well, I think here's the thing with the raiders they've had. I mean, they have added a lot of talent Antonio Brown. He's nuts. But he is unreal player. Trent Brown is a massive upgrade for them. Tyrel Williams is a really good like two three wide receiver their defense. Shitty. But they have all these draft picks after the draft their team could be much improved. Now, if Derek doesn't play well, and I thought last year he was averaged for most of the season and some games below average. Now he had a couple of moments. But if Derek if Derek's good with all this increased talent they hit on a bunch of draft picks. Yeah, they could win seven or eight games. But if in Tonio Brown gets off the rails, and he's starts throwing shit at Jon Gruden and they miss on some draft picks, you'll be one hundred dollars richer. That's one hundred bucks. Who cares as I like that bed? As a titans fan, the mock draft all over the place analysts have us anything between a tackle a wide receiver a tied in a linebacker defensive lineman. What do you think is our biggest need to show up in the first round? Well, I haven't been there at practice last year the kid they draft from Boston College Hera Landry. They got a good defensive line to me. They're young front. Seven is good their corners little hit or miss, but they paid Malcolm Butler a lot of money. He's just he's gonna play and obviously a door Jackson. They draft in the first round. He's gonna play. They drafted Corey Davis who actually showed some signs of life. But he's really the only wide receiver. They got could they justify Nikiel hairy. You know, AJ Brown keen Butler or something like that? In the first round. I do think. So the other thing is last year. Was it last year Delaney got hurt I think it was last year or two years ago? Yeah. It was last year because the Laney went out, and it kinda messes them up the problem with Delaney's. He's the best of saving option, but he's an older player. So I think tied. End to me wide receiver. We're tied in feel very realistic. And I might even lead tied in because you need Marcus mariota. Who's not this explosive? Throw the football game a tight end. So if you've got to draft Noah fan, who's kind of Travis Kelsey Zach earth's type, you know, he's not a blocker. But who cares? I love this. Well, these titans can't block don't ask them to block put them in the slot. Who's gonna cover a six foot four guy that runs a four or five forty? I'll tell you. Nobody why Travis Kelsey Zakar it's dominate because Erz definitely can't block Kelsey is. Okay. I mean tries kind of, but they they can't cover them. That's all I care about. Okay. Talking to some relatives in the Jacksonville area that rely on me for sports info. What is their biggest need in the draft? Any thoughts on Jayhawk at center at Oliver. Who cares though is Jacksonville? Well, they got foles their wide receivers. Allen Robinson left right last year. Chicago Markey's Lee Torres knee. They don't really have a tight end Mercedes Lewis is gone now. So yeah, they need to offensive playmaker. As of the recording of this earlier today Leonard for net got arrested for driving with a spended license after a traffic. Stop. I didn't really read much of the info. All I knows that he got arrested. He's already better some trouble. That's not good. That's a problem. You're not gonna take a running back again in the first round. But I think clearly they still have a bunch of players on defense. Even after cutting me Jackson. They still got Claes Campbell. They still got Dante is not on the team anymore. But they got the other dude I came to his name, but he had a bunch of Saxe couple years ago. Good player, the linebacker solid. So got the two corners. I would go wide receiver or tight end for sure. But you're right. Who cares Jacksonville? The other thing is thinking about Jacksonville. How good is that division? The culture stacked Texas are damn good. And you the titans for solid. I mean, I think the Jacksonville Jaguars the fourth best team that division unless Nick foles can just really strikes Nick foles magic this year. It's going to be really hard K. Enjoy the weekend. Enjoy the masters go tiger or close to the draft. Thank god. Because I'm ready. You know, I I like these hypotheticals I'm ready for some actual picks. I'm ready for some actual players. Let's do this week John middlekauff three and out. Tell all your buddies to all your friends predate, you're listening who's. On the next Ron burgundy podcast. This is actually exciting. You got Mr Peter Dinka cheese. Chang's impersonal poetry actually, a lot of people actually find poetry interesting. The same machine away series thrown of games game of thrones raw in any surprises. We expect from Tylenol Lancaster curious. Minister iheart radio is number one for podcasts. And it's easy to see. Why? I'm Doron burgundy podcast on the heart radio app or wherever you get your podcasts.

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REShow: Mike Mayock and Joe Staley. Hour 2 (04-30-20)

"Thank you for listening to this. Podcast one production. No available on spotify apple podcasts. Podcast one dot com in anywhere else. You podcasts this is the rich. Eisen show now on the rich. Eisen show APP. That can be hard to overcome off the show. Espn baseball insider just passing still to college. Los Vegas Raiders. Gentlemen Jer. Mike Mayo retired. Forty niners offensive Lineman Joe Staley Football Hall of Famer Dion. Sanders loves a KADEMI award. Winning actor Matthew mcconaughey. Hey now you're rich is all right everybody. It is the Rich Eisen. Show live from Los Angeles California. We say hello to our friends on. Nbc Every Single Day from one to three Easter nate. Take the final two hours of the rich. Eisen show that starts every day at twelve bells eastern on Sirius. Xm Channel to eleven as well as our youtube stream youtube dot com slash rich Eisen. Show Chris Brockman. Mike Del. Tufo good to see you. My on air producer and audio executive to see you. I look a little bit of news. A little bit of news made by our Country Front Brett. Farve here on this program yesterday. and we'll talk about that with Dion Sanders when he joins us at the top of our final hour on this program. We have not one but two alliterative M.'s. As guests I up Mike Mayock last up. Matthew mcconaughey totally different. I would say polar opposites on the scale of pop culture. The general manager of Your Loss Rate Vegas Raiders. Longtime friend using do shows like this very often but Not many shows like this or hosted by someone goes away back with Mike. Mike was a guy who called the packers drafting Aaron Rodgers. The twenty four th overall back in the day he nailed that in his mock draft or did and Babe Ruth type called shot in terms of evaluating talent in the NFL. Not a myth Joe Staley the all pro offensive tackle of the San Francisco. Forty niners retired on the final day of the draft leading to Trent Williams acquisition. You will be joining us in the very end of our first hour. And then dion will be joining us Again at the top of our third hour. I'll just want to put a quick pin in the far stuff for second because it is a possibility that the next quarterback of the New England patriots as Po popping free on the free agent market. Now Chris Brockman and I'll remind the NBC viewers who may not have seen this because we were not on NBC S. N. As of yet when Tom Brady signed with the Tampa. Bay buccaneers what I said to you when he signed with the Tampa Bay buccaneers and the rest of people of your ilk mind folks from fine folks from New England the root for the New England Patriots. Who More maybe like yourself? Remember The Times of those hard benches of the old foxborough before Gillett had banners and things like backs of seats. And things like that. Yes I told you. Welcome to the rest of us when terms of remembering the old days. Welcome back to the rest of us for all those millennials who only know championships and Brady and Bella check. I said welcome to the rest of US time. Welcome to the rest of the National Football League and two that I add today's news that Andy Dalton is free or about to be free fly be free Andy Dalton thank you for the memories in Cincinnati. But we've got JOE BOROUGH JOE EXOTIC. The Tiger King is now here from Lsu Tiger nation. I think it's official. He's been all right there. You go seventeen point. Seven million right off of the cap in Cincinnati and now Dalton is free to sign with another team like say New England that has only one point seventy stuart Scott phrases spandex thin. He always used to say when he referred to something that wasn't very large SPANDEX thin one point seven million in capital which is six hundred thousand dollars more than what tomorrow's guest in this very slot. Jameis Winston who will be joining us the top of our NBC `send broadcast on Friday. Show James Winston your signed for one point one million in New Orleans to backup drew brees threw for five thousand yards last year. And I understand the turnovers Gloria but this guy can wing it all right now. He can see the surgery which I can't wait to ask him about tomorrow. One point one million he signs a New England in New Orleans Dalton I know has some leverage potentially because his former offensive coordinator is now the offensive coordinator in in Jacksonville. When there's maybe a James Winston Jay gruden marriage so put it all together. And maybe he goes there. Maybe he's got leveraged. He'll be too expensive for New England but the mere fact that we're talking about Dalton as a possibility to quarterback the New England patriots and it is something that the Patriots should have to consider and something that New England Patriots fans will have to do the mental gymnastics to embrace APP. Doing them right now. Charlie Weis was on this program few weeks ago. Sadat would be the perfect fit of all of the possible veteran free agent quarterbacks on the market and now here it's a possibility and the mental gymnastics that you and Patriot nation will have to undergo brings back once again for me in this chair to say to this microphone. Welcome to the rest of us in the National Football League. Yeah I don't like being with the rest of US liked having number twelve back there. Too Bad stinks on behalf of the other thirty one fan bases too bad. Is this what you guys had to go through every off-season almost sitting around wondering what the coaches thinking? What the Front Office is thinking. How'd you guys survive? I don't know welcome to the rest of us. Yeah I mean I like Andy Dalton. He's got more career touchdown. Pass Troy Aikman Bradshaw. Joe Nemeth more yards than a Lotta Hall of famers. Did you didn't know that before today. Did you up because you know I was potentially twitching story. Great player first of all hair. Great human being ascertains by the way. Oh my gosh. He's had a great human awesome. I know he'd be a perfect person to put in the New England areas of face front member and look at what he's doing with his beautiful children. I mean he's ready in the backyard. Julian Edelman and I'll tell you what hold on a minute. This one on I snapped. This wants to Nikiel Harry and then this one this one is to Jacoby Myers. Running out of guys are to draft anybody. This will james out of the backfield. Okay Yeah you don't want 'em this wants to whatever tight ends filling in for GRONK. I'll tell you what whoever that guy is. Welcome to the rest of his credit's not a bad idea. Last Twenty Years Anti Talton. Any told him don't even at a second round pick. You can't even throw in the same sentence Jimmy Garoppolo and don't not a bad idea to the rest of US Chris. I'm on behalf of the NFL fan basis. Let me let me represent I think at this point. I mean Tom. Current said it was going to come and I think I've reached it. I've talked myself into just rolling with stem. This might happen. I think we just give him a shot. This year brings and if it's a disaster on the disaster start over his decent if they go eight eight nine and seven you bring them back in twenty one and we'll do it again. I can't believe I'm at that point. Oh it's delightful really is just delightful seriously. Everybody around this country given voice to all those duck boat parades and the red sox and the Celtics even the Bruins get rich there were twelve and I'm assuming the New England Revolution Twelve parades and I'm sure that's fine. What does Nike The dog? Think of anti even though it's not gonNa dog let's get down to it. Here's a little treat for Nike Dog. He's calling little snack him off. He's a little he's a little. He's a little doll treat filled with all sorts of nutrients areas evaluating film Nike Dog. Even the dog won't tell you that's how tight the circle is there. A New England Nike the dog. That's a poker face. We have no idea he could be looking at film could be looking at film of of we have no idea. Welcome to the rest of US honestly on behalf of the other thirty one. Nfl Fan bases. This is so good that I I I mean we made we made. Nfl News around the world here yesterday when Brett farve called in. And I haven't even hit it because I'm just I'm joined this moment so much. I'd rather do this than take a victory lap for this show and there's an iron rich Eisen and Nike Nike. There it is right that what do you think? We're going to release them. What should we do take this treat? If you think it's Dalton. What bill should do is he should put two bowls of food down one told him and just let him decide right and a hydrogen familiar with all due respect. I honestly I say I'm doing this for the GAG. I'm doing this. Get under his skin. This okay well it's working. Please be good man. Please be good. James has gone. James has gone. We'll be talking. We'll be talking with James at this point again tomorrow. I I look forward to chatting with him Jay Mrs Gone. I don't think Cam Newton's walking through that door probably not Be Okay so mike. Mayock will be joining US shortly before I do that. Let's talk about Brett Farve a little bit here. Brett farve had a lot to say. Yesterday we caught a day after he played a little bit of golf and he let us know a no uncertain terms that the Jordan love picked surprised him and that he had spoken to Rogers and was going to keep Most of it if you will all of it quiet. But the exception that he termed Rogers. A little bit surprised by. It said that the that he feels that this will rear. Its ugly head at some point. He even thought it might happen this year. If the packers start slowly if there's a season knock on wood. If you're with me he also did say yesterday that he thinks he's GonNa and elsewhere just like five and I didn't even have to finish the question. Brett beat me to the punch. It's a difficult question but I'm GonNa ask it certainly more difficult to answer since it's looked in the future. It's the old crystal ball and you even said yourself the world you do. You cut me off. You think he will not end his career as a green bay packer. Just like you get tells me no. I think you're finished somewhere else. I guarantee this and I don't know that certain but I guarantee you. It's got the wheels turning Aaron Spine. Which which if if that's the case. Then that means there's a chip on his shoulder towards organization that otherwise was not there and so he all he needs is reason other than this reason to expedite that a Brett farve had to say and for those listening on Sirius. Xm Channel. Two Eleven did say courtesy. The Rich Eisen show on the screen which some others on this Profession aren't doing. It's called a courtesy for a reason. The mothership got it right. They did at any rate. I will say this. David paid to protect. Aaron Rodgers was in the draft a thon live draft room with me and third our guest final our guests Dion Sanders when this pick was made when the trade up for Jordan Love was made and his reaction was the same as far as by saying. There's a chip on Aaron Shoulder. But look out. That's when he plays his best farve having been through this before obviously on the other end having to be pushed but he has been through this before on the end that Rogers on the other men now Rajas on his and now that he knows that this means the end is ear and he knows how he felt back in the day and how Raj feels now and it sure sounds like he knows exactly how Rogers is feeling because they had a conversation about it and he knows what this means and what it means is at some point down the road even though again far did say play that sound bite Mike. He he did say that this was going to come home to roost. Potentially this year from a relationship standpoint it sends the wrong message and I think when adversity hits this year old three couple of bad games or whatever that is going to rear its ugly head and you know. The daggers are. Going to be out ever started. Aaron Rodgers is what Chris? Do you never start. He's never started. Only three. Never started ellen. Three he started one and two and three straight years. Twenty twelve to twenty fourteen okay. So it's been awhile since he's even started sub five hundred. Yes through three games. I don't see it this year but bread is a potential bit more conversant in Wisconsin And Green Bay Packer Nation Cheese nation than I am and but what I pointed out to Brett after that and he did agree with is at some point two years down the road. Three years down the road the packers are GonNa WanNa know what Jordan love is who Jordan. Love is for a couple reasons one. Will they be able to flip them? Like Garoppolo. Can Aaron Rodgers turn into Garoppolo by playing like Brady Dude after Garoppolo was acquired and there was a lot of conversation certainly in the moving onto Cincinnati years about maybe moving on Garoppolo and I do remember that Super Bowl being twenty eight to three in favor of Atlanta. I looked down at my twitter feed and all my texts from New England financing whereas Garoppolo. Brady's toast while we all know what happened the rest that day and then obviously the rest of Brady's tenure with New England so the packers will either have to know. Is He Garoppolo. Can we flip him for two? Can we show him off to the rest of the NFL community where we can at least get a two for one or wonder we're GONNA pick fifth year option? Do we know it? Let's just say some teams have the ability to evaluate players before the fifth year option gets picked up say today's Kansas City chiefs. Move which you could have etched in stone. Mr Sharpie years years ago that they were going to pick up the fifth year option. Patrick which became official today after game one homemade or or after his start. When are they ever in his rookie season in week? Seventeen in Denver. They're gonNA have to figure that out Clark. Starting now there's no doubt about it and farve knows exactly what's going on which is why. I think that was news. Yesterday is because we all feel it and sense it and the packers have opened this. Pandora's box the question is does love have the ability to get through all this? The mental toughness that Rogers did and become like Rogers or he's been compared physically homes. If that happens then all this conversation will have just been that conversation if not then it is absolutely what my English teacher used to call a harbinger sign of things to come. That's why obviously farve made news here yesterday because everybody senses what he has to say is the truth that Rogers might finish somewhere else. He finished my sentence for me. Far didn't let me finish the question. You know what was coming and also said that it's not rodgers job to mentor Jordan. Love which I will play that sound bite for Dion Sanders later and I know that directly Indians wheelhouse kind of like a league. Guterman lefty lefty pitch back in spring training that he raked for a triple right and dion hot zone. That'll be later on when he also precedes. Matthew mcconaughey but coming up next one of the news. Makers because he makes the picks for the Los Angeles Raiders my Buddy Mike. Mayock live on NBC SNL more. How're you doing over there? Christopher Yard Yeah I'm great. You should be great trophies. In the case on a billion billion like I said before this is the ultimate and bill we trust moment I mean I think we all do in New England. I think I speak for everyone in the five states. And we're going to let Iraq. We'll what happens. It's going to be them so I don't know man he's GonNa have to learn by warned by. Fire Dot window has to be what inches by inches right would say no bigger than twelve by twelve. Maybe twelve by and that is a good ten yards away beautiful kiddos. I mean do so much worse. Oh yeah he's a real deal bona fide quarterback in the NFL. We could do worse. Who is on the roster and I know unreal and I I know I know that I might have come across looking like slagging on Andy Dalton. I'm not slugging on you want that to be understood. I'm I'm not slang. Andy Dalton. I think he's he's more than a solid quarterback me as a one but he's been the playoff most awarded four times for a team that nobody thinks ever wins. Look what he did. And if you think that it's just the the the any dome has the Gravitational Record Right? If you think it's just a gravitational force of Bengal he did that in the gravitational force pulling the other way his his his games and primetime though were always difficult to watch knock it and that's and that's a very liberal very generous way to put it. That's generous way. Two Point Two thousand twelve to two thousand fifteen. He won ten games each year. Arriving in two thousand thirteen he threw for more than four thousand yards and thirty touchdowns and he's he's a good player but again the reason why I bring it up. Is that you in New England spent from high atop Mount Brady High Atop Mount Pious. I guess to use the damage phrase high atop the Mount Patriot. Look down upon. The Andy Dalton is at the world down your nose and down everything. We've looked down everyone. I understand that's why I'm saying. Welcome to the rest of us now. On behalf of all thirty one of the Fan Bases Man. If the pats go twelve and four this year it's GonNa be I will be. I will be terrible to be around if that happens. Just heads up. Pats four get even better. Oh God what. A Great Edna segment. We're back in just twenty seconds with MICMAC. Do you own or rent your home. Sure you do and I bet it can be hard work you know what's easy bundling policies with GEICO GEICO makes it easy to bundle your homeowner's or renter's insurance along with your auto policy. It's a good thing too because you already have so much to do around your home. Go TO GEICO DOT COM. Get a quote and see how much you could save. It's gyco easy visit. Geico DOT COM. Today that's GEICO DOT COM G. I. C. O. Dot Com back on the rich Eisen show on NBC Sirius Xm Channel. Two eleven youtube dot com slash. Rich Eisen show our phone. Number's eight four. Four tool for rich. That is the number to dial. I love this man I had so many great years That Cherish sitting at the other end of a set or through a two way talk on NFL network. He is now the general manager of the Las Vegas Raiders. He is my buddy Mike. Mayock how are you Michael? Go the NATO I'm fine. How's everybody in the family? Everybody healthy but good everything. Knock on wood everybody. Good how about you guys. Same here same here. You know Families good and the show family here. We're all healthy and safe and socially distant enough to come here to work every day and do this so I appreciate you calling in today so I guess I order. Business is how was this draft. Mike I mean how. How was it for you to conduct it? It was so obviously out of the ordinary. Yeah I mean I it obviously There were challenges out there for all thirty two teams and that's all that really matters and to our organization was that we're all on equal footing and I think that was important And so starting from the time where we had the lead lead the facilities all the way through the draft itself. You know. We've put a lot of pressure on on our. It people are analytics. People Are Video people and I thought everybody just rate rose to the occasion. We worked on was necessary to evaluate and then I thought draft weekend went off without a hitch. And you start talking about how many people were were remote. And how many connections had to be made and it. It's just I thought I didn't see a whole lot of it on television but what I was told. Was Everything went seamlessly and you know we got through it and I think every team felt really good about rich. I spoke to to your colleagues this week already and how Rosement in Philly and John elway yesterday in Denver and both of them seem to think that it did take a while for everyone and get used to it and how he in particular said he thought that there were. Fewer trades may be Thursday and Friday because people are still kind of getting used to use. Elway said at one point. It was difficult to have a private conversation. He kind of step away from zooming and all of that stuff and that Saturday is when things felt a little bit normal. Would you agree with that assessment? Thursday night we were on the phone. A lot and I don't really believe the technology or the remoteness of the situation affected at all and I'll tell you per five or six straight night prior to the draft We were practicing. You know we were. We were zooming. We had our trade guys in different parts of the country. We had our scouts calling in and trying to overwhelm our phone lines. Just to make sure we could handle both the phone lines and the video lines and It worked out pretty well so I you know there could be. I think the one thing Richard. You kind of felt like once you got to a certain point left on the clock. You had to hurry because it wasn't like everybody was in the same room together. If you're trying to make a trade and you were down to about two and a half minutes three minutes you were trying to get it done because You still had the facilitates go through the trade line to the NFL. You had to call the kid that you're trading or drafting. You know there was a lot going on. That typically would happen a lot easier but I feel like the reality of it went off without a hitch and then I also just you know from our years together. Our new That everything's in evaluation for you. How would you evaluate groups handling of the it because a lot of people thought he might be the guy who talks into his mouth? Not figure that stuff out how was how was Gruden in your evaluation. Mike Gow was great. Man We fun I mean. We're you know we're we're now about an hour apart and we're you know at first the week before. John was like I don't WanNa be on that boom thing. I want to be on the phone with you. Mike and then you do all the stuff. And then we had a couple of practice mock drafts that went off without a hitch and he was like. That's not too bad. That was Kinda cool and you know John gets the point. He starts to embrace it and then he's really funny so we it went. Well that's good 'cause I guess Kellyanne no could've just stepped in at any point in time. I heard he did fair. No doubt about that Mike Mike. You're on the rich Eisen show. Let's get into the evaluation. We had again elway on yesterday. He said that the Broncos ran several mock drafts and not a single one of their mock drafts had rugs being taken by you. Why did you choose rugs out of all the wide receivers at your disposal? Potentially well you know there were fact. Quote that group of the top three wideouts. Everybody wanted to talk about Judy Rugs and CD LAMB and we loved all three of them And I felt like John and our staff could take advantage of the distinctive talents of all three because they were very different and at the end of the day. I think the pure speed of Henry rugs is kind of what changed things for us. And I think we've felt like we've been of speed Both vertically and horizontally and when you get a guy like rugs not only getting the vertical for the deep over the post routes. You're also kind of getting those manufactured. Such is the horizontal ones. The jet sweep the bubble screens When when I talked to Nick Sabin and he told me he approaches every day like either walk on his work. Ethic is off the charts He was a gun or a jammer on special teams so we felt like we got in one body. We got a potential kick returner. We've got gunner jammer. We got a guy stretched field vertically and I think even more important than all that rich because again. I think John could've used all three of those white outs to their highest degree of Excellency. But what changed it for us is? We felt like that element of speed would make Josh. Jacobs better would make Darren Waller better would make everything underneath better and effectively make our whole offense better quality man you you kept hammering that wide receiver position as well When you used to of your three third round selections on on Lynn Boden Junior and Brian Edwards of Kentucky in South Carolina respectively. Why did you feel the need to keep hitting that same position Mike well? The reality is for us. Lynn Bose is gonNA play running back and he at Kentucky was kind of cool because his junior year he caught close to seventy passes in the. Sec was the top one of the top slot receivers in the country and then senior year. The quarterback got hurt and they moved him to quarterback and he rushed for twelve thirteen hundred yards and he. Sec as a running quarterback flash wildcat guy so we kind of envision. Lynn Boden as first and foremost primarily running back as he learns how to pass protect and do all the different jobs demanded of him by that position. I think the cool thing about Emrich is he becomes what Jon call the joker and ability to play running back slot wide We can use them. We could line him up wildcat and the Red Zone so We Envision Lynn Boden doing variety of jobs for us but primarily. He'll be a running back and then Brian Edwards to us. We had him with a high second round great and he was sitting there at eighty one and just couldn't pass up on that and he's a big body tough guy the all time leading pass receiver at South Carolina. He started over. Forty Games in the SEC. So we're kind of blown away both by his productivity and his consistency in the best conference in the country it seems like that was a A facet about this draft with a wide receivers Mike Mike Mac by the way. The Las Vegas Raiders. Here on the rich Eisen show. Is that you. You're getting guys In rounds with grades much higher than what you were getting them. Would you agree in terms of everything the years that we were working together to to this year deepest wide receiver draft period? Or No. I think every team in the league went into it knowing that there was quality at the top and depth throughout in you know I think typically the the average was twelve or thirteen. Wideouts have gone in the first three rounds over the last five years and I think twelve went in the first two rounds which set a record in modern drought So Certainly every team in the league felt like that was the case rich guys in the fourth and fifth round that. I was salivating over. There were were wide out says typically would be third around guys so so yeah. I- The position this year we thought had had the best quality up topping the depth throughout. And let me just circle back briefly to your second first round selection the last of the Khalil Mack. First rounders that GRUDEN placed in your expert hands to turn into human beings Damon are net now part of the conversation about our net leading in on draft night as well Was his tape. In the biggest game of the year against Clemson Did Not suit him very well. I'm sure you saw similar tape may thought a different thing about this young man. We saw somebody who You know fought through a difficult night on on occasion What did you see on his what we saw was In thirty five starts at Ohio State. We thought he was most competitive. Cornerback in this draft as far as the guy that showed up. Every week competed tackled. He can play inside. He can play outside he can play the right side he can play the left side. He played most of this season with the cast on his arm We thought that if you just what we're looking for ritual and when John and I sit in a room by ourselves and we talk about what are we trying to construct here and we talked about competitive. Tough guys to come to work every day. 'cause they love it not just because they're getting paid for it and that's Damon are net So to us when you're in our division and you're playing cheap twice a year you mentioned John. Elway drafted wide out. They drafted tight end. Or did everybody's trying to get faster and more dynamic to compete with the cheat so in our division. You better lineup. You better be fast. You better be competitive. You better be tough. And you better not flinch and we don't think skittle flinch all right a few minutes left with you. Let me hit you on some twenty twenty questions And we hope for full season to use a phrase of your head coach. Knock on wood if you're with me. So how's Abram is he? Ready to roll is ready to go. Oh yeah I mean weekly of almost feel like we've got another first-round pick year? He played one game last year. Hurt the shoulder. He's one hundred percent. I talked multi-mm` and is fired up and ready to go okay. Last time we spoke at the Combine. I tried to walk through the side door. Rear entry door. Whatever you want to try and get you to talk about Tom. Brady you sniff that out a mile away and moved in a different direction so now here I am knocking on the door about the the Mariota acquisition for you and how everything that's old is new again. We're seeing how Rogers is kind of in the role of a far. I spoke to Brett about that yesterday. And people are thinking maybe Mariota could be in the role of Tannahill with Derek Carr in the role of Mariota. Going into this season. How do you? How would you handle that as a narrative? Mike First and foremost our cars our quarterback and John and I love what he did last year. And he completed seventy percent of his passes and he had a great quarterback rating. And do we think he can get better? Shore your three and Gruden's offense. We expect them to get better But when you're looking at a guy like Mariota the cool thing for John and I when we had the Morio conversation is remember rich. We were both in television in Mariota's draft year. Gone and I. So if you're Marcus Mariota and you want to know what Mike May View. All you gotTa do is go back and check check. Check the tape just like you. Hey Yeah they turned the tables on the evaluator. Now they're evaluating John and I and you know I it's really Kinda cool because we had some great conversations with Marcus about that. He knows we believe in both Marcus. Mariota the person more importantly and Marcus. Mariota the football player. And you know I think. We've got to rebuild them a little bit. He beat up. He had to get some surgery after the season You gotTA clean up some technique from the ground up. I think John's the right guy for that. And we just could not resist adding that kind of talent to our quarterback why that is the the question is yours. Well because that's what I talked about with Howie Roseman the other day. Is that when you choose somebody and packers Adam that conversation my lord or they have in that conversation right now when. You've got an already installed quarterback veteran somebody who is associated with team. Somebody who's well paid to be associated with that team. And then you have another quarterback at your job as general manager to fill out a roster and make sure that the positions taken care of should that quarterback not be able to make snap or falter and. I guess that that's the question. Mike is how you view the role of quarterback number two in your job. Well we believe that where we are as an offense right now is we ought to be very competitive. Offensively we ran the ball really well. We've got a big strong offensive line. We all mended the receiver position in the draft in free agency. We feel like we should be big strong powerful tough and more dynamic team this year and I think our job John and mine is to ensure that if something were to happen to their that we continue to be that same team and we think Marcus gives us the best opportunity to do. Just that all right Mike appreciate the time you know and I tried to get your your home draft setup from you you know many of your colleagues Implied you're the only one that took a shot from outside the window and And and that's all I got Can you describe and then you're like I know what you meant by the way I'm putting that text up on the screen right now when I called you out. I know what you meant with four dots. I mean what would you have? Can you at least describe it? There were two reasons there number one was that I'm in a little dining room rented Alameda. Health that I have five whiteboards surrounding me with close with Alvin magnets and taken a shot anywhere in that room. You would've seen a white board with a bunch of names on it and then I just tell you that have a little. Have some big words and you did you see. Did you see Bella checks? Did you see his nantucket setup? Did you see that on? Espn Mike I did. And I was happy for bill. Manny all you had was a laptop on the table it looks like to me and a dog and his dog. Nike. The dog who's feeding treats A. He's a much smarter than I am. I I need thousands of pieces of paper and you know I mean builds amazing and you know as you know respect. I have for him by now. So your your old school your post. Its and whiteboards in Greece boards and magnets. You're just a surprise. You always had like third grade scholastic black and white charcoal notebook that you brought with all your notes sitting next to Moya. Yeah it was the Lord Marble notable. Why left-handed scratched because I used to have to take because I'm left handed. And he had to go through the whole binder thing you know and then it looks like a claw when you're writing but yeah that was our lady. Lord I've brought it with me and the funny thing is rich and you'll see this as your kids get older is that my kids. Crushed me for for those books that I carry around notes in and now I look at both of them has grown adults and they both carry around the same things in their bag. Die That you pay it forward Mike. That's the way it works Thanks for the time Mike. You take care of Yourself. Stay healthy okay. We'll chat soon game. You and your family. Thank right back at you. That's MICMAC my buddy raiders. Las Vegas Raiders. Still not not weird saying that I know just GonNa take a while. I just miss so much working with Mike Jeremiah. But Daniel doesn't give me what Mike. Mike was fawning Micronesia Stare. I don't get this. They're DJ gets. She knows too much about popcorn. Just stare even when I might say something that he disagrees with you know in an evaluation. Just get mistaken for. Mike stopped me in my tracks. And for first few years you know as the host and trying to keep everything moving. I would just not acknowledge it but after a while I would return fire and I realized that that Fed Mike that fed him that it never offended him fed him. It spoke to his inner philly. And that's when people would start tweeting. You guys didn't like you guys don't like each other. You guys are my God. That was really just guys just argued on television. I'm like no no that's a New Yorker affiliate guy getting together actually getting along quite honestly. I still don't. I still don't miss the Stereo. Did you just call? Dj So cal soft no. He's he's solid. He's so counseling. Joe Staley is gonNA join US next. We're staying in the bay area Although I think Joe is calling in from Southern California where I guess he's. That's where guys retire to Southern California. Joe Staley and your phone calls when we come back. I didn't even walk through the Brady door with him anyway. Now no I don't even. I bet you even kicked the tires on on Tom. I don't I I don't even know if it did. Why Sign Marcus Mariota? If you're thinking Tom already told him. I'm not coming to Las Vegas. If you're thinking about Tom Brady not signing. It seems the only left coast team he would consider playing. Snow San Francisco this guy his hometown team. But I'll tell you what man I'll tell you what man Mariota's GonNa get. I mean they both loved him coming out of College. They both did. I mean are they going to do a taste them hills situations? You think with Murrieta and I don't think so I don't think so he is strictly the backup mean. You just heard how this Kid Lynn. Boden is going to be kind of a jack-of-all-trades he did it all Kentucky Right. He's so you're how they're going to do. They're going to work that offense. I think he's the he's going to be the wild card in that wildcats had the ten yards and in. I just hope again ten yards Derek. Carr do not die for the for the pilot. Just don't die for the pylon anymore because you don't want to do it anymore. We don't WanNa see you do it anymore and people don't want to hear me complain anymore. Rule is never getting overturned. Can we make a five-year wager? Wager what do you want twenty bucks a year? Jack Compound compound compounded I. That's going to get changed in five. No way riches. You heard our river Ron explain and dino why won't ever get changed. Excuse me you're looking guy who got the. Tuck rule change. He's the took was was. I mean I know a benefit. No I heard from Mike. Pereira saying the. Tuck rule wasn't going anywhere. I kept hammering away at it whenever I had a shot of him on. Nfl NETWORK NFL total access. And I'm not saying he had enough juice to getting overturned thus giving me that but I'm going to say I definitely kept it alive in the heads of enough people that they finally saw the light that the idea of taking a ball from passing position and bring it down into a non passing edition. A stance has nothing to do with an incomplete pass. It has to do with the intention of no longer passing. All coming off of a raiders. Talk sorry writers were back in so we just chatted with. Mike may off the general manager of the Las Vegas Raiders Dion Sanders and Matthew. Mcconaughey the Pro Football Hall of Famer and Academy Award winner respectively. That's those are our third our guests so we turn to the phone lines right here and if you're on hold stay on hold at eight four four two zero four rich. We'll take your calls before the end of this hour. The freshly retired Pro Bowl. All Pro Offensive Lineman of your defending NFC champion San Francisco. Forty niners Joe. Staley calling into the program. How are you doing well? I'm fine so are you already overeating? I mean how quickly to somebody go from playing to retiring basically in the NFL Actually do the opposite. I'm pretty quickly getting into the weight. Loss what do you mean realm going on now? Do you go in the other direction. You Go Joe Thomas. Are you Joe Thomas on me right now? Yeah thank Every offensive LINEMAN's dream as they're playing football and you start playing for a long time. It's just like how much you miss being able to be at a healthy normal weight and trying to lose pounds and I'm right now on that weight loss journey so right now. I'm just shedding into Peleton right now. So really everybody is probably right now. So what's your Peleton name? In case somebody goes in the room and and they see what your what. Your name is I am chip J. Leno chip seven four. J. 's okay chip for tip wise for my Central Michigan say. I wanted to make a name. That was inconspicuous. They don't want people to Yeah I've told everybody so so I mean so if they see what? What's your name again? Chip? What is it four j. 's Okay so chipped for Chippewa seventy-four your uniform name and Jay for Joe Staley. There it is that we just cracked the code. Crack the Code I. I've had it for about thirty days now. Okay very good alibi. Why did you decide to to hang them up? Joe Was a time for me the decision for me and the family. I was This last year it was pretty documentary. You know I miss the most games. I in my own career last year with a broken leg in the The finger but Third around and then I had this thing in my neck that I was kinda dealing with towards the end of the year and it Kinda gradually got worse and worse and then once I you know the super bowl is happening and kind of came to a head during that game and then I realized I was GonNa have to talk to a lot of doctors after the season was done and then once I did I got a bunch of different opinions and you know wasn't really favorable so You know Kinda dissuade everything and decided that the time is now but the deadline of the You know the draft and make a final decision because that was really important to me to the niners were in a good position to kind of move forward and that was gonna be screwing him over anything with my decision so Really excited they're lantra transition. There I know. And that's I guess Michael. My question to you is Wendy. How much heads up did you give the forty niners so they could get in that In the hunt for for Trent Williams. Yeah so it was I was in anyway everything was going on and I was talking to doctors. And you know they're involved in that process and everything but As far as like an actual one hundred percent decision business. This is what's going to happen I told John and Kyle basically the week before the draft. I was like Hey I'll have a decision for your hundred percent then So I think they were making contingency plans. Now speak for them but I knew that they were probably doing feelers out there and stuff and getting stuff rolling on that front and then once I told them they kind of move forward and get the deal done. Joe Staley Right here on the rich. Eisen show Fresh off his retirement from the national football league. So the guys you played with Who Do you think of from your career that you think stands out Joe? I mean there's so many that I was able to play with and memories but me the guys I always come back to Thinking about just Frank Gore Number One and my wife just because of the impact that you know. I think he knows now because I've made a point of telling him over the years but how much of an impact he had in my career. Just watching him when I was coming in as a rookie Fresh off a sixteen hundred yard rushing season he was the man at the franchise and just seeing the way that he worked. Every single day This kinda like set the example of what a pro athlete and NFL player is. And how do you got to act and behave to to make you WANNA make out of your career and So he had a huge impact on then we became really close friends. And you know still still same way today Getting the practice against Justin Smith every day this made me so it's a better player You know him in all at the same time you know we were kind of. I was kind of entering my prime in my career. There and being able to go against those guys. Every single day in practice just made me so much better And then just you know but different players that you just get me over the years You know and competing against and you know big moments and you know also this. Ibm WITH A go. Pro Bowl and see all the guys that you just looked up to your entire life and meeting them and being around their families. Not they've done a great memory. Well I think Frank Hall of Famer Joe I. I don't think there's any question that you didn't even stay right there. I mean what do you mean what what he taught you? I mean because again there's a lot of people who think Frank Isn't that impactful? Because he's just been around for so long that's his most impactful thing that he's done. His career in his career is that he just does longevity by love to give you the floor. And what I what that means to you. I think you know I think part of that is because of Frank's personality you know. I think frank is never going to be a guy. That's GonNa you know puff his own chest out and give himself publicity. He's a guy that's Kinda goes to work every single day and that is part of it you know getting your name out there and being a guy that people talk about all the time and he's under under the radar guy and you know. I think just his longevity. I think that's not something to be held against them. I think that's something to be celebrated because at that position it is incredibly hard to be year in and year out consistent and I think that was what I look from. The most from them is like what it takes to be a consistent football player and not to someone that has a two three good years but to be You Know Hall of Fame Player. Jose career you have to work a certain way and seeing him beyond the field. An hour before practice started going through intense workout every single day. Rather it's getting ready for a playoff game or if there was in the middle of. May you know he took every single day super serious He made a point of learning every single aspect of our offensive. You're running you know. Not just what he was doing. His responsibilities were but you know. How was the guard attacking three techniques You know what's the What's the centers calls on his past protections I mean he he left knowstone undertone turned and I think that was something that stuck with me forever that it's not just about what you're doing it's with the team's doing and You know how can we get better from that aspect and before I let you go Joe? Ga- tell me a good Jimmy G. story about why you think he's the man for the future here You know so much conversation about The postseason and how much running was done on obviously How successful that was and it was done because Jimmy J. wasn't as effective throwing it that was at least a narrative and certainly the super bowl where there was a play that to be made potentially towards the end of the game. That was a possible game winner so his his effectiveness is a front and Center for a lot of conversation. I'd love to give you the floor here. Yeah Jimmy's been nothing but unbelievable. Since the day he got in there I mean he worked incredibly hard to learn the entire offense and you put in a position where he was. Kinda looked at like. Hey you're gonna be the savior of the parents is right now because you know we need you to step in and You know he came in one is five games and ended up. The season we had last year was unbelievable right and he was a huge part of the reason. Why we're in the position. We were on why we got the first round by completely one multiple games during that regular season for us just by his own. You know arms and You know the playmaking ability As far as the playoffs goes I mean that's just what we've felt like going into Games was You know we were attacked those especially the packer game and those guys off the edge not just give them an opportunity. We're GONNA throw the ball thirty forty times a game you know. It's really hard to you. Know Kinda hold up the entire course of the game so he thought the best plan of attack and working you know. I think it's Going with the plan of attack and you were just I was really get that. Um but it was working. I mean we were. You're gaining explosive. Plays left and right and so you know it wasn't because that's where we had to control the clock and we got twenty twenty one points again. I mean we we were able to score points in his little guys to the Super Bowl and then you on the Super Bowl I think You know like to have some of those plays back. We all like that. Some of those places like that's what happens when you lose a game You know look back on it. So I know it's going to be a huge motivating factor from our off season He's GonNa be really good coming up. Joe Thanks for joining. What's next for you other than Peleton writing in hanging with the family on riding losing weight and just enjoying time down here in Dot San Diego so during time with family and You know hopefully You know seeing some friends sometimes some sometime soon so Getting a little stir crazy here at the house. Do not do my part. Well if you ever want talks and ball you want to get in the Paparazzi. That's the method. You WanNa go For your you know if you WANNA go full Joe Thomas just to give me a call and I love to have you on here and talk symbolic the anytime. I'm always trying to catch Thomas Man. He's been a guy my own had trying to buy more like one step behind him so hopefully I can get him on the the weight loss and then I can try to figure out how he's so good everything every single thing he does. Okay I think what does he is he badge seventy-three jt on. Peleton's his knife out of his making. Take care of yourself. Joe Joe Staley Challenge. Assume thank you Joe. 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Those players wouldn't have been able to make that team that I miss something in the raiders of the defending champion Super Bowl defending super champions to the of the deepest roster in the league. Here's what I can guarantee him like. They were going to be teams. That are more successful than next year. That are going to have fifth sixth and seventh round players on their team contributing to their teams. I am shocked that no one claims no-one quote him on that. Well that's an outrageous statement to make diff- sixth and seventh rounders can't make your team. The readers have been a dumpster fire for eighteen years. This guy is a second year. Gm and he's claiming that fifth sixth and seventh route. And didn't he just tell you that he was fifth receiver? Well he told us that can't make our team. Here's one thing I can tell you Paul. Okay thank you for the call. Appreciate one thing I can tell you is Mike. Mayock respects anybody who makes a team at any point at anytime. Fifth Sixth Seventh Rounders. So if he thinks that these players could make his team right now and he can go up and you can get somebody in the fourth round as opposed to waiting around fifth. Sixth and seventh guy knows what he's doing. I mean again Max Crosby Hana Renfro Jonathan Abram. Josh Jacobs Clean Farrell. Let's see what he does with this draft class. He's already helped turn things around enough where they were in the mix last year. I would trust my is. I'M GONNA say to Paul. I know they've been a dumpster fire for eighteen years but Mike's only been there for one Dion Sanders and Matthew mcconaughey. Hey and you our three coming up. Hey I got a new podcast coming. It's called theory. This is Theo Rossi. Our world is changing for many of us. It'll never feel the same important thing to remember. Is that we are all in this together and that someone would I? WanNa talk about on my new show. The're going to discuss the things that no one ever goes. 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Raiders 2020 NFL Draft needs

Silver & Black Pride

16:16 min | 6 months ago

Raiders 2020 NFL Draft needs

"Hello Hello everybody our you this Bill Williamson and this is my very first podcast. Four espy nation silver. Black Pride. Very happy to be here just the big day for me really is going to do. Our draft needs podcast and this is Starter something we're gonNA hopefully be doing this on a weekly basis But this are pre-draft podcast if you followed me before you know I've done. This is my fourth different home for Raider podcasts. I did on the LAPTOP ON FOR FEW YEARS. I Raider snake pit my my former site. I had it on there. And then believe in raiders. A from I think last August to February I came to be nation doing a lot of work until a black pride and So now we're going to start going so it's going to be very similar format ask you know as I have been you know. I just kind of go. I have a lot of fun and this show is going to be. You know really focused. Awesome draft need so. Let's get to. It can go position by position. And you know I think receiver obviously is something that Fans WanNa talk about wanting to know about this really good receive request course. Some people were saying it's historic You know I find it interesting because the top three receivers in this class you know whatever particularity you'd feel about him is our land from Oklahoma and the to Alabama players rugs and Judy. I'd probably go lamb I But if the raiders. Think that Judy's the better player and they're both available and they take judy I I can't. I don't have any qualms with that right now. Of course the potential for qualms is going to be there down the line in a couple of years and I think that you know potentially going to be interesting for Raider fans because those three players could end up on the raiders. The forty niners in the broncos. So that'll raider fans are going to have you know rival teams with these players on it. And so it's GonNa be we're GONNA be comparing these players throughout the years and there might be some motions attached to that so you know I don't know of all of these guys are going to be great on the three players at receiver. The top three guys rugs scares me the most because you know there's due dates be comparisons that that should scare you right. I can't make that mistake again. He's very fast I liked it. He's a competitor. I think that's a good sign. I don't know if I'd want him to be my number. One receiver it. You know he might be a better secondary receiver in you. Know with the raiders. They're looking for a number one receiver. So I feel better about those two. The other two lamb and Judy I wrote today It's on the site now that they've talked they've been talking to Denzel mims. What does that mean? Well they're talking to a lot of players but he certainly on the reiter. They're interested in him. Has Been recent you know I think you know maybe he's in the top five receivers along with Jefferson from Lsu I saw store today. Somebody said that Jefferson from an a scout has been in the League for Forty Years. Might be one of best receivers. He's ever looked at. You know I think. That's the thing about these receivers is that there is. There's so many of them and it's you know. Pick your favorite ice cream flavor. So Mike Mayock said last week in a conference call. That was on. You know you might be able to get a number one receiver in the third round this year. And he wasn't saying that as making that his raider plants he's talking in general So it's GonNa be real interesting. I think they take wonder. We take a cornerback before a receiver. I see the the thinking the logic because if you say you got the kid from our House Day and then you got Henderson from Florida. Cj Henderson and then it gets really the talent drop off is pretty steep after those two guys but then the receiver talent is pretty stout. So maybe you take a Henderson at twelve and then you take the best available receiver in nineteen. I can see that Jalen Johnson. He's The guy from Utah. That the raiders. Have either I on. I think he could be a trade down possibility A guy that you might want to you know if you trade from nineteen and maybe he's there at twenty seven or you know if you trade up into the second round and he's slipping because of his recent shoulder surgery. Maybe you get them there. You know I think possible trae down possibilities from nineteen could also be terrell from Clemson so in that case they would be playing the to. Clemson kids Terrell and Molin. They who they dropped in the second round last year and we know Mike. Mayock loves CLEMSON. Players the raiders drafted. Three from last year You know so. There's there's some of that so it's GonNa be real interesting dynamic at receiver. Cornerback what they do I would probably take the receiver at twelve. 'cause I think you know I. I think lamb and judy. You're probably going to be better player than Henderson. And then you worry about next. You Know He. Just get the great player when you can. Because you're just not that many of them guys they're just not and when you get a chance for a really good player you take it. And that's going to be there if the raiders at twelve. I don't think the raiders are in a loose possibility. Somebody asked me. Hey have you thought about doing a story on a draft nightmare for the raiders? And I don't see any scenarios I think they're going to be finders. There's some scenarios are better than others. But you know the the fourth scenario I eat at both twelve in nineteen or pretty Dang. Good you know. Hey the nineteen pick is. The bone is close out the match trade. You know. I've talked to a lot of people who think this draft is about sixteen players. Strong that means sixteen sure impact players know some of those sixteen may not they may bust some and there's GonNa be people have great careers outside of that sixteen of course every year but just from from what we know right? Now there's about sixteen safe picks so you probably not going to get one of those safe picks at nineteen so really hit a home run at twelve because say say Henderson. Maybe isn't one of those sixteen best but you want them at twelve because you gotta get that cornerback. And you like him a lot more than the third best quarterback available okay. He's not he doesn't have a quality career. And then you're you might be missing out somebody at nineteen. So that weakens your draft in weakens your team in the future. So that's why I would go get the receiver. I that's what I would do You know other positions in need. I know people don't think there is need a linebacker anymore. Because they got the. Two starters in Littleton Kaczynski. I better get better at his name. I think he's going to be calm nick from Chicago. I think he's GonNa be a pretty good player. I'm but you know what if if you love a Kenneth Murray from Oklahoma you take them you know I know that the it's a changing league and sometimes you know there's not three linebackers in on the field at all times but if you've got good players maybe you keep them on the field more so you know. I like Kenneth Murray a lot. I think he's better than Queen. Mellish's you could be a possibility as well. I like Murray. Because he really fits what Mike Mayock is looking for is that you know he's A. He's a performer. From a big program. He's a leader. I I I think he would fit in Nice You know but you probably don't do that at nineteen. You know a possibility of safety. Maybe a grant del pit from. Lsu's a guy that I like. That might be a tray down scenario as well Maybe mckinney Alabama You know that's a possibility at me. And I think that the positions that I've talked about or or or probably the position they will get the earliest. I don't think they're going to get a quarterback but my never say Never Guy. I don't know what's inside their head. Nobody does and there's no rule draft reporting. It's all speculation until the big and there's been a lot of speculation that the raiders. What's hate to if he drops to twelve or they'll take Jordan Levin Nineteen I? I'd be surprised by that but if I'm writing that story on Thursday night I'm writing that story on Thursday night. I I don't control it but I don't think they need a quarterback right the early. Maybe they get one in the middle rounds. There's a lot of talk about James. Morgan from was forty. Four international lot of jalen hurts. Talk if he's available in the third round you know running back. They're going to want to a running back in the mid rounds. Maybe four for fifty around. You can get a good running back. And they don't need a starter obviously. They got Josh Jacobs so they need a guy to give him a breather. A bigger guy. you know something. Moss from Utah could be third fourth. Rounder a lot of people like Kelly Joshua Kelly from UCLA AJ Dylan from Boston. College is almost two hundred and fifty pounds. That would get your your big back. Wanted two hundred and fifty pounds. So maybe that's amid rounder idea. You know teams always loved. Draft offense alignment. I think the raiders did a nice job filling their interior Line needs in free agency with Kirsch and proactive. Oy and they brought back good so I don't know they're going to draft the offensive lineman. I WOULD BE SURPRISED. Titan where they got forty two tight ends that probably not gonNA be addressed. It's receiver it's cornerback. It's linebacker safety defensive tackle. Maybe I know they want to get a run stuffer. That could be a target. I think in the second round if they move up or down and they get a second round pick You know I'm GonNa do a mock draft with all their current picks and I'm GonNa do one trades. I do think they tried to get in the second. There's a lot of teams that are trying to trae down Because you know there's talk that there may not be much difference between twenty and forty in this draft order. Timeout a little earlier. Okay so the problem is if there's a lot of teams wanting to trae down who wants to trade up. You GotTa have a partner. So it may not be easy for the raiders to get a second round pick. I think I would trade number eighty one in ninety one for number fifty two. The Rams you may scream at me but if you look at the trade value charge that fits to almost a t and you get a better player fifty two and I trust Mike Mayock I it. Ju It's John Gruden's draft but I think he does listen to Mayo and I think Mike. Mayock is smart and I think he's going to have more good drafts than bad drafts because his formula is very simple. It's very clean. He doesn't over think. I don't think I don't think you say I don't think he reaches much but he did reach it for. They urged for feral last year. Can't say they didn't But I think he's good about the draft coming to them. I think he has a good scouting I and again his formula is winning. It's it's get a guy who's produced. It's get a guy from a big program. It's get a guy who's leader that when you get those type of guys that brings your chances of busting a lot lower so. I think it's a very simple queen formula. I've always said if I you know ran a draft. I would keep it really simple. I wouldn't draft guys with character concerns because most of those lot of those guys those concerns become reality in the NFL. And Yeah. I remember now. The raiders are going to be in Las Vegas. Vegas is the party down. You know so you gotta be careful there and you wanNA bring mature guys in the mid may have said that and then some of the guys they've brought last year or guys they're gonNA fit in Vegas just fine. It's not going to be too big for that player so I think that's part of it as well so really interesting I think we're GONNA be talking on Friday while they had a nice first round because I don't think there's any way they can't have a nice first round and then let's see what happens on on and on Friday night and Saturday. I think they want to get some more picks. The great part about the raiders draft. Is THEY GOT? What five in the first ninety one? That's awesome but they only got two in the third day and Mike mayock scatter it. He's got to get some of those that back to the only has a four hundred fifty and I don't think he's GonNa want to the fifth round to be his last. I don't think he wants to Saturday. Picks so he's going to have to wheel and deal. And maybe that starts by trading down from four maybe trading down twice in the fourth round. Maybe that's how you get some more picks But yeah he's GonNa they're probably GONNA be busy all three days of potential trade can be wild. It always is but it's going to be a lot of fun and I'm having a lot of fun at SP nation at that website. I mean we're getting a lot of great things done and we're having a lot of fun to draft and I'm really proud to be. They're really proud to have this podcast on the site and I'm just very excited so We're going to wrap it up here and we're going to talk to after the draft and we're going to have some more fun and again this is. GonNa be a regular thing so this is Bill Williamson and this is silver by pride and we are my goal on every show in this in. This is what it's been. Is they make you as a formed as anybody in the Raider nation. And that's the goal so hopefully I made you a little bit more informed and prepared for the draft today so we'll talk to you have a grey day. Enjoy the draft. And we'll talk soon.

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We Welcome Back Football Friday, So Let The Games Begin!!!

Boomer & Gio

23:22 min | 1 year ago

We Welcome Back Football Friday, So Let The Games Begin!!!

"From the investors search bank studio boomer assize in gregg giannotti boomer and geo on the fan simulcasts across the country on c._b._s. Sports network <hes> friday morning. Yes it is the first football friday of the year. We had our opening night last night. Packers and bears errors in it was a defense of battle. That's for sure a lot of people watching game like means say a little bit boring but it was fun and watching those defenses do what they did. A little bit scary to me is a fan of the vikings. Watching both of those defense is gonna work last night but we are here here. After many many months of upheaval with both the new york football teams new general managers new you quarterbacks drafted new coaches everywhere wide receivers that are superstars getting traded week. One is finally here ear and these two teams well one positivie around the other would be a little bit of a shocker if they made the playoffs starts now and takes us aw in february and i couldn't be happier about it good morning our you don't you also got your guy antonio brown going off the end again to buy forget about that. I had to that and a lot of things going on with the raiders by the way just <hes> you know before we get sorry about last night's game. Get the yankees and the mets big series this week yanks up in boston. Obviously mets return home. Here's the thing when when you when you watch these games now early on in the season you're going to see guys. Does it have not played in any sort of game action at all and it really hurts the offense. The offense has got to be on the same page. There can't be blown assignments on the offensive. It's of line. There can't be misreads by the quarterbacks. There can't be dropped by the wide receivers. The defense is aggressive and both of those defenses last night. We're really really aggressive so they made both quarterbacks. Look average aaron rodgers at time there in the second quarter showed why he's so good that that's a blender that is like that is like on on high speed blender when you're playing in chicago and you're playing against that type of defense and the defense is not as good as the eighty five bears but they are good and they pressure the opposing quarterbacks accent is very difficult to run on them. It's just that like i have been saying this about mitch trubisky appea- if the bears really truly want to be a championship team. He's got to be the guy that's gonna lead them there. He's got to be more accurate. He's gotta be less like a chihuahua on thirty six madison in rush hour you know he is playing the game way too fast again and this is the guy that i saw last year. There were times he made plays he would break away and do something that you know he was able to do athletically but that's is not how you play quarterback in the n._f._l. And what i saw last night was a guy who has progressed. I saw that stuck in neutral and he'll get better as the season it goes on. There's no question about it but neither one of these offenses especially. The quarterbacks played at all in preseason well. I think that's a big factor. In generally the defense is going to be ahead of the offensive that is the case the timing and all of that now and rogers basically won the game with that one driver he was great where he saw marquez valdez scaling down the middle of the field where there's no safety there and then through the touchdown pass to jimmy. That's where he won the game so he was great in that game for basically a four play drive and that one the game offense will be for the packers. Obviously their defense won the game over here. Here's the deal if you know plus. There are a lot of penalties. You know a lot of stoppages stuck. I mean s._p._i._c. right now. If you are the bears you wake up this morning and you give up ten points on your home field on opening night. That's came you. Gotta win like thirty five to ten right absolute. Ah you and i both picked the packers to win. This game always covered the game. Yeah and i had to win as well but i also had the over so i can't take much credit because they did not think it was going to go this way. I know well nobody did but hopefully this is not a sign of things to come this weekend. You know what we'll have teams that we'll have good offensive game simply because it'll be playing against bad defenses. It says right that was pretty pretty impressive defenses last night. They ran you know they were running a ball. They were flying all over the place roquan smith. Is you know you could see just just is the second year now of what it means to be on the field. If you are a young player and how how it's different and how now all of a sudden you could just let it go. Oh and go play and just let your instinct takes over and that kid certainly showed that so you'll see that hopefully from guys like sam darnold. We'll see that from josh allen baker mayfield but all these people that keep talking about all we got this. We got that we got a man. It's going to take a good month before anybody realizes what they haven't offense because none of these guys have done or played in a game that has those kind of anxious moments and have played four quarters and i often say yeah you could be physically prepared to go into a game you could it'd be in the best shape of your life but we're really is taxing in the n._f._l. Is the fourth quarter mentally because you've been dealing with this now for three mcquarters right and basically two and a half to two hours and forty-five minutes in real time you're under extreme duress mentally and you're not used to that. You're just you're just not used to it and mitch trubisky. Obviously he's not used to that. Even arron rogers was not used that last night yeah i i think that last year with all the offense and the emergence of pat mahomes homes and the records that were being broken could have been one of the more exciting n._f._l. Football seasons in a while with some great ones but offensively was an explosion explosion however the last two games we have seen played in the fans yeah. It's been all defense the super bowl and then last night. I don't think that's going to be a trend. I think that's more of an anomaly really than anything else but i was watching his game. This is the super bowl all again no offense in this guy and the one thing i will say in watching these games last night defensive linemen defensive lineman pressure with four you know whether it be <hes> clark or or mac or any of the guys that were on the field last night for either one of those teams. This is why you know you gotta you gotta worry about teams like jacksonville in houston and <hes> the the chargers you know even the even the forty niners have got this awesome defensive line now and this is what everybody wants. They want pass rushers. They want interior pressure. They don't want to have the there were some blitz and going on last night of course especially with my pet and as we know from his jets yup but it's all about the pass rush in the pass rush got to both both quarterbacks last night at times mitch trubisky just like he was like out of sorts like this should have been easier to him but it's he'll get better as the year goes is on but last night was probably a wakeup call for him and matt nagy score three points in your opening game against your longest rival in doc. The opening of the season in front of the fan base was crazy. Your team that won the division last time in the big question mark going on with the bears fans was the kicker kicker and the kicker goes out. He makes that field goal in the beginning and they're cheering but nobody thought the rest of the offense was going to be that bad trubisky did have an opportunity in the fourth quarter two two minutes to go. He had alan robinson allen. Robinson was the only bear really had a good offensive game seven catches over one hundred yards last night you know he sees him in the corner of the endzone however he's double teamed and he forces the ball in their throws that pick with two minutes to go. I mean if if it's a better throw a better decision there maybe have another opportunity or maybe the end up scoring the touchdown to tie the game but that that was the mistake after as poorly as he had played the entire night he had an opportunity and he took too much of a risky throw to his best wide receiver and that cost now is it. I mean they never got down there again. And that was the end of it. Remember i asked you the question the other day and had mitch trubisky and that's seven quarterback list yeah about whether or not you know he's ready to take it to the next level and win a game like last night as poorly as maybe aaron rodgers in the green bay packer offense played last night. They won the game on the road sure there's no you could call it an ugly win. I called game on the division vision game fair with the new head coach and the number one defense trying out the eighty-five barriers before the game and a lot of credit deal with they won the game and you know. I'm sure that when they wake up this morning i don't care we score ten points and the thing about it is aaron. Rodgers didn't turn the ball over the right right. Absolutely some saks place <music> almost did right nobody did he did fumble and ended up recovering himself but but it was it was very close but yeah he he won the game himself at least offensively with dr so we get our first look in in real games with the jets and giants coming up division games to start the jets and bills was the giants and the cowboys and the jets in the offense that we want to see from them. There is a lot of expectation on both sides of the ball but i think especially especially offensively for the jets not only because it's a new head coach who's an offensive guy not only because it sam darnold and his second year not only because seattle levian bell. I mean there's a million reasons why the expectation level for the offense is very very high and if they come out out and give you a lot of people are going to be unhappy and you wanted to why the expectations are high because adam gates has made them hi i've watched watch you know the jets do this show and they put it out there on the on the on social media and all that stuff and you can you can watch adam kind of break down the film of sam darnold yeah and he is so a few of sam darnold and saying so many great things about sam darnold and as i have but i'm not as coach right one. I think the media guy says something. It's another thing when the head coach starts talking glowingly about your quarterback and you know he has been really over the top in his praise praise of sam and sam's abilities now. I don't know if he's doing that because that's what the jets want him to do. In order to sell season tickets or he's actually doing that because he wants to put extra a pressure on salmon wants to see how he handles enter and totally one hundred percent believes it but he has now lit the fire. If you will of expectations for sam darnold you know my buddy bob glauber from newsday wrote an article yesterday and this goes back a month ago. I think at c._b._s. Seminar he interviewed me about sam. So what do you think about sam. I said well sam's gotta own his football team. He's got to be the man and i think sam understands what i'm talking about. I don't mean he has to be raw ronal that other stuff that that's not my point my point is is that the fifty two other guys on that staff or on that team on the roster the coaches the players that are around him every day. I've got to watch him go about his business as a professional. You don't have to be era guy but you gotta be able to get into people's faces. You've got to be able to own your team. You gotta be able to live up to the expectations at your coach your owner your fan base. The media around here of all put on you is a ton of pressure in that young man. It's his second year and he has got have to own this team. It's gotta be his team. Tom brady is not a raw raw guy but he'll be he'll go off on the sideline every now and again but yeah it's been around for twenty years so this is the beginning of sam second near and unlike mitch trubisky last night. You know if the game is online at the end of the game and it's at home against division rival. You know you gotta go win. It sure got it and if you go win it if you go in it and you do it unlike mr bisky did it last night and he does it here now all of a sudden that's part of the process process of being the man and owning your team and everybody looking at you. You don't have to go out there and tell everybody how great you are not saying that you got to do it on the field. You got to do it in the meeting rooms and you've got to be so damn confident in yourself. That confidence is going to raise. Everybody's level around you and this week. One game is important because it's week one division game all of that apple also extra importance with the way that the jets schedule lays out early on you know they drop this one then you're thinking about. Maybe being a hole in a whole that's going to be tough to new climate of but there's reasons to be excited with the players at the jets have acquired via the draft and free agency and how much of a new look team. This is from the four win team last year. The one thing that i really wanna see and i think is going to be a major factor with this offense. I think sam's gonna be alright. I really do as much crap as levy the honor bell. I think he's in shape and ready to roll. I think he's gonna be alright but who's that guy that next star or someone. That's going to help out sam darnold. Is it going to be rob again anderson again. Is it going to be jamison crowder. Is it going to be quincy and noon well. I thought that it sucks that chris. Hernan suspended for the first four games because the rapport between those two guys at the end of the year was spectacular but robbie anderson had a great stretch at the end of last year. Can he now mature into a guy who is looked at as a legit it number one wide receiver. That's a big question for me or is it going to be sort of by committee with those other guys but i think that sam needs. He needs one more guy out there to really step up and have a breakout season for him as a past time on don't forget about him. I mean he is. He is really good player. He's an under the radar signing. I know he's has injury issues but at the end end of the day he's a guy that kind of brings you the same thing that levian bell brings you he can catch out of the backfield so be interesting to see how they deploy william and the point that you're making about the wide receivers as good but we don't know yet right why because they haven't played now we haven't seen them since last year and we have not really seen a a offensive game plan put together and what adam gates is going to try to do to the buffalo bills in our defense so this is the fascinating part. It's it's opening night. We saw both teams offensively last night. Just look like they got pushed around a lot of mistakes a lot of penalties the offense of wine and the bears may have had their worst game in the last ten games. They made so many mistakes. It was ridiculous but hey this is. This is opening weekend the n._f._l. Now the say all that other stuff the san antonio brown stuff now so i don't know if you saw this but the captains of the raiders yeah collectively got together after practice yesterday and they wanted to john gruden's office and they are the players that have witnessed the nonsense that has gone on for the last five weeks with the raiders and their and their training camp in the frostbitten feet and the helmet and the missing preseason games and missing meetings and missing practice and that's why mike mayock had to find antonio brown because he's one of fifty three he may be the best of those fifty three but he has to be treated the same way and mike and mike mayock doc was pushed to the brink late in training camp he said either. You're all in there. You're all out remember that whole discussion of course and that's when the fine came and then antonio brown obviously isley as we go down the you know the road here of history puts that let her out on instagram and you know put some really tough words to it and then comes word that he threatens mic mac on the field. The players saw all that yep so the players wanted to see jon gruden said hey coach whatever you guys decide we are with you and then derek carr goes onto say that you know it's hard to defend the indefensible. It's hard to sit. Sit here and support antonio brown. We all want him on the field. We all want him to be a part of our team but the things that he has done <hes> just basically we. We can't defend so the players to tell you that he is out on an island and is i don't know if he's bipolar. I don't know if he's tri-polar but he is basically basically cost him third himself. Thirty million dollars guaranteed depending on what the raiders do with him and if they suspend him all those practical guarantees that the raider gave him a new contract after they made the trade with the pittsburgh steelers those guarantees go by the wayside man. His idiocy is going to cost him a potential thirty thirty million in guarantees. Now the raiders have the leverage now because of his actions they can suspend them now. They can still keep them that doesn't mean they're gonna cut him but they could suspend end him and wipe out all those guarantees meaning that they'll have that leverage over the top him over the next few years if they decide to keep them yeah. It sounds to me though that they if they end up going on after those guarantees that that's going to be something that's going to be a mess for the raiders. It's gonna drag on for a long time because then then you're talking about you know jon gruden rude and mike mayock having to go to hearings appeals and dealing with that so that's another layer of it but you cannot defend anything that antonio brown has done however the raiders to me who have preached all this and mike mayock since getting this job preached the culture and the accountability and all of this stuff went out and traded for a guy who was visibly insane and also quit on his team the last week of the season when the playoffs are on the line so i'm. I'm not defending antonio brown's actions. This is ridiculous a raiders fan. I would be livid with this guy. However if you're trying to change a culture that's the last guy on earth you should be trading for is antonio brown so they deserve a ton of criticism in this and if they end up now trading away khalil lille mack who was one of the dominant defensive players that game seen in the last five years trade away him and then bringing this guy and after cottam before he plays a game. I mean that's-that's organizational malfeasance so you know you know what i think they did here. They also brought in bonn tells perfect and richie incognito and they trade for antonio brown and and give him a contract to pacify yeah i think they had holes on their roster. They wanted to take fliers on players and they wanted to give players in some cases second third jordan fourth chances just simply because they don't have the players to man those positions and they figured this was the cheap way out and i'm talking about the other two not antonio brown and we'll we'll give them an opportunity community to kind of get their lives right. That's why you didn't see much of reggie incognito or montas perfect on h._b._o. Hard knocks. I said we're not putting these two guys out there because it's gonna make us look ridiculous how about vaunt as perfect as one of the guys that separated mayock and antonio brown. That's how far antonio brown that perfect is a voice <music> of reason out there on the practice and i'm going to tell you the personality of mike mayock has not to take any flack or any crap from anybody but remember who hired mike mayock jon gruden gruden jon gruden did so by virtue of extension good cop bad cop <hes> you know he's doing exactly what group wants to do. He's he's look you've got. You've got the whole this guy accountable because i got to be very careful. I got fifty two other players now. Those fifty two other players. I believe took jon gruden off the hook. Now they went in there and they talked talked to him yesterday as captain instead where would you coach whatever you decide to do. We're good man. Knock on wood. Knock on right so get rid of the guy suspend the guy what ever it takes whatever you do. We've got your back as plight. What's today. That's great. That's great to hear. What did they think was going to happen when they traded for this guy they they gave him in the world saw that he was going to be a problem now that i think it was going to happen before the season started no but at some point when he wasn't getting i i remember talking about this. You know whatever team he went to that first game where you only get targeted four times or whatever throughout the whole game. He's gonna lose his mind. He's going to throw a water cooler. He's is going to be kicking stop on the sidelines and crashing his quarterback. I thought it would happen midseason. It didn't even get to week one. What did the raiders expect when they traded for this guy you remember when the yours yours just got hammered when they traded him and said they got nothing for him in house but they got they got they got hammered. I don't believe that the giants got hammered not often frodo beckham junior and the steelers getting how're ultimately. You got to get rid of these guys outta the locker room now. I do think that there is something to be said about. What may occur doc is talking about the culture and lock them. Every general manager in every coach wants that that's why cattlemans doing what he's doing that the giants that's why he got rid of certain players that didn't want to hear any missing. Listen guy said he didn't bring an ear. He you know they do this in hockey they do. I don't necessarily know that they do it all sports but where you are where where the game is really physical nasty like this and the and the and the physicality come into the game football and hockey they try to do that. They try hi to make sure that the guys that they have that roster and the way that they build the the room the locker room. It's going to be supportive of of the team in all the worst or situations because that's when it all becomes a revealing attribute to your team whether or not you're good because when you're losing you got locked. Lawyers lawyer said the media talking off the record. All these things are shown up in the paper. You know you got connections in the on social media and also the crap. I i would not be surprised that the raiders decide to move on. I wouldn't be either but i think that every all the focus is on antonio brown i mean i just think that you know the rate deserve some criticism and you're comparing dodo beckham junior at this point. I mean odell beckham. Junior's boutros boutros ghali compared antonio brown at this point about those two guys the del handle himself poorly antonio brown. This is this this dwarfs. The terrell owens craziness craziness where he was doing situps in his driveway. What antonio brown has just done in the last three weeks coming in with frostbitten feet after arriving in training camp to training camp in a hot air balloon and then refusing to practice because he couldn't find a helmet that was not older than ten years old to play with and then threatening to fight who'll do punches general manager in the face before week. One is is the most bizarre behavior i've seen from a single player that is on a roster probably in my life and and you haven't even listed any of these social social media on top of all of this stuff including him instagram ing the fine notes that he got from mike mayock say no yes hit yesterday and yes that he punted the ball and yelled at may find the for that bleep. You know what i mean. Yes totally insubordinate and i'm on mike mayock aside here. He's got to be the hardest. He's gotta be guided holes the player accountable. They're fifty two other players that are looking at them in every coach out there that is listening to this. I think applauds that's exactly what the raiders are doing right now. No real real. You're gonna be out thirty million bucks. Boomer and geo fame ended up with the patriots for dollars. Go when a super bowl.

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Meet the Raiders Newest Draft Picks, Ruggs and Arnette audio and Mayock call

Vegas Nation - Raiders Football

20:40 min | 6 months ago

Meet the Raiders Newest Draft Picks, Ruggs and Arnette audio and Mayock call

"Hey there we blew. Ira just wanted to take a second to thank you for listening to this podcast. You know everything outside is pretty scary and uncertain. But we're committed to helping you get through your day by talking about the sports teams that you love most. If you're looking for more great podcast distract you check out blue pods dot com. Thanks for listening and enjoy the PODCAST and stay safe. We are excited to know where we're not. It'd be planned and excited to have a city that is cited by having a swatch no matter what we are now. The Las Vegas Raiders. What's up everybody? It's time for another episode of the Biggest Nation. Podcast brought to you by. Sdn Sports Mobile by station casinos and also presented to you by favorite drink a favor dot com catch up with everything happening with the NFL. Drafting your raiders. Right HERE ON VEGAS NATION. We will be doing recap episodes here tomorrow afternoon. We'll have a new episode up. We'll recap all the action from the draft. Don't forget to subscribe wherever you are listening as well as follow everything on social media at Vegas nation on any of your favorite social media platforms also download the Vegas nation APP. That's where you can keep up with all the content that we are putting up for this week. We have Friday night a show coming up. Nine o'clock we'll be doing that on. Cox Your View Channel Fourteen where you can follow along all the action that's happened in the draft with the raiders will also have one on Saturday at four. Pm Cox Channel Fourteen so check out those shows to keep on top of all things. Happening with your raiders. What we're going to do today is here. From General Manager Mike Mayock who spoke to us after the draft took place for the raiders and filled everybody in on what the raiders picks were. Let's go ahead and hear from Mike. Mayock feel like the raiders. The Las Vegas Raiders. Got Faster we got tougher and we got more competitive tonight We got the wide receiver at pick number twelve. He's the fastest white out and draft. We got the corner at number. Nineteen didn't awful lot of work on him and a lot of time I did. School visits there this year. The bowl both places and I feel like I know both kids really well so John and I could not be more pleased. Coaches are fired up the scouts or fired up so And Trust me. Mr Davis we will be the fastest wipe out. The draft was the day that his father was looking down and smiling and might get Josh St Pete On the decision on on Roy was in the three receivers. What what made him stand out from the other? Two guys at the top. Yeah All three wide receivers we felt were diverse and with bring different things to the raiders and We I feel like groomed now. Offensive Staff is so good they could have gotten the most out of all three of them a wherever you know. Did the distinguishing factor really was his speed explosion. Workout You're in division. Were in and you look at Kansas City. And you look at what they have on offense and what they're closing looks like We needed to get faster and we think that his addition opens all our entire offense He he can run the deep brown he also gets. The manufactured touches the bubble screen. The Jeff's weeks I think if your worst defense is the role coverage it opens up our run game You respect their deep browse. It opens up daring Waller I just think it does an awful lot of things were offensively and I think The most important thing is. I think coach Gruden in the staff. We'll get everything out of him. Hey My father cherished here from A. Espn you said last week. That teams make mistakes by reaching for need. Why is our net not reach for you guys at that position What exactly about him did you like the region. He's not issues Becau- eighty in our system Did I think we couldn't move down? Maybe and still maybe but we want to lose them. what distinguishes him is number one. You can run number two. He's talking and when you talk about competitors. He played most of the season with a capsule or he complained side. He can play outside. You can play left the play right We feel like this is one of the most competitive football players in the entire draft so to answer your question We don't feel an all like reach. Were you ever at either spot at at trading down or was it did not opportunities are. We did not initiate any call. We had a bunch of call tonight. from teams one of the move off at different times or or specific players We wanted to sit there and take rose twelve and we did We probably could have moved down if we wanted to at ninety but again We Hung Munir. We thought the guy who wanted to say so. We did not initiate any trade golf tonight but we did get several call. Mike. This is from NBC in Las Vegas Before the draft and talked a lot about just to being a virtual draft and Kinda what challenges it was posed. How did the first round go for you guys then Was there anything that maybe popped up? You didn't expect now. The first round went really smoothly. And I'M NOT GONNA lie the I. I spent way more time on Zoom and Microsoft teams and things I never heard of on We probably drilled our trade routine for the last Four or five days where every night I would have a group of My scouts he's better in different states We had an analytics guy David Cortisol we had city atlas one of our scouts. Stray Scott Jon Gruden We of people on the line and weeds old drill and drill on these grades. And I really worked out We had several times where we have two or three teams on the line. We had no glitches wherever get information gets got information easily. We feel like We're real happy with Where our number of our stack for so Nocco awarded wealth tonight. It'll get more and more complicated as we get less and less time between fix. The raiders had two picks in the first round of the twenty twenty. Nfl draft and with the first pick. They took a wide receiver as anticipated the name. Henry rugs out of Alabama. Here's a quick recap of what we thought of rugs from Adam Hill and I. This is Kinda surprising for some of the fans as I'm seeing the quick reaction here on. It's Adam Hill and Heidi Fang and we're going to break down this pick for you at number twelve Adam. What do you have for us on the pick with Henry? Rugs well listen. The raiders are a franchise at in the past has always been known for one that loves speed at the wide receiver position and they have gone to their roots here with Henry rugs the fastest wide receiver in the NFL draft He ran a blazing a sub four three at the combine And I think made a big flash already not only with the new. Las Vegas Raiders out which I'm seeing him put on. Tv right now but also with the bathroom which I believe is sponsored item that he is getting paid for To wear so smart business. Move as well by hundred drugs but listen speed kills at the wide receiver. Position is a tyreek Hill type. We talk about him a lot leading up to this draft. I thought Jerry Judy. And CD lamb were two elite players in this draft but there is no doubt who the best speed wide receiver was. The raiders fell in love with the speed. They take the speed guy and they hope that maybe some of the inconsistencies and struggles at Alabama. Not Putting up the kind of numbers you would expect out of a guy with his athleticism Were just you know part of the system in part of playing with somebody other great players that sharing the spotlight? J. Judy much more prolific. See Lamb much more prolific as well at Oklahoma Justin Jeffers much prolific. Lsu But the numbers at the combine blew people away. And the raiders have fallen in love with with Henry Rugs and they had their pick up all three and they rugs. That was the guy. They wanted rags impressed with his speed and the NFL combine recording a four point. Two seven forty type. Let's hear from Henry Rugs after becoming a Las Vegas Raider. So explosive receiving pay off. But yeah I feel like I I could definitely definitely got slow. Make a positive impact and you know. I'm going to get him to the office. They'll be thing out pretty talented receiver group at Alabama. How how much you numbers you're able to put up in college. I mean it definitely doesn't come to Kinda me back coming. You know guys had to. We had to share the bomb instead of so everybody got assists there by the way and mean with bedroom guys. It only makes you mentioned WanNa take advantage of opportunities MS deals. You make me they henry. Let's just just don't be disappointed. You know I'm I'm Bentley. Not disciplined two guys ready to go to work and they can seize. Yeah what does it mean to be the first pick to LAS VEGAS WRITERS? You know when the French moving it means a lot just that they you know they go in. They use their pick on me. You know for the first and you know their first Jaffe ever into the with me and I'm on I'm excited. Maybe so and I can't wait to get there and didn't even get to work. I was talking to spend Vegas before. None said you've never been to Las Vegas how much are you looking for you? Come into the city and kind of seeing what. It's all about Can I I definitely can't wait? You know I'm excited to get that. You know you hear a lot of things about you know these things and as far as actually chicken if you about that. Oh Man I'm excited. Just you know just opening up you know star and started free rein go and like. I said it's GonNa Right but Henry people on twitter. Were commenting on your draft out that night. Did you ever think that you'd be wearing a roker? The draft I definitely Disney. Did I mean it was something that you know something that I've thought about it? It just came about and like let's go for me. Why not at home talking? Hey Henry this from in Las Vegas Do you get a chance at all the talk Josh Jacobs. So what did you tell you about this? he was telling me to pretty much be ready. You never know what's going to happen you know. And that's how it's lights brainer thing and you know whenever you get to where everyone's is due to do you got it no. He told you he knew that I was ready. So it was pretty much. How confident are you your ability to not only inside? But I'll try. I'm very confident. I know you know once I can do. I can do everything on you know. I'm not afraid radio. Show that I'm not gonNA salvage win in the challenge or let's go ahead and hear a quick word from our sponsor and we'll be right back to break down the readers pick at number. Nineteen Damon. Arnett how they say. A healthy gut means a healthy. You favor apple cider vinegar shots bottle. This feeling into the convenience of a two ounce shot better digestion stronger immune system and the lowering of blood. Sugar levels are all just some of the benefits to shooting a daily favor shot. Their proprietary blends are a raw and organic and mix with other functional ingredients to create a better tasting experience. First Time shooters can go to drink a favor dot com welcome back to the Vegas Nation. Podcast Heidi Fang here. And we're about to break down. What happened here at number nine hundred ninety four? The Las Vegas Raiders Selection Quarterback Damon. Arnett was a name. Not many were anticipating to hear at this position in the draft. But the raiders didn't have any picks until the third round coming up at number eighty and we're unable to make trade happen. So here's Adam Hill night breaking down what we think about the raiders pick at Number Nineteen Adam. I think this is a bit of surprise for people I think. Damon are net was not the name that people anticipated to here with the number nineteen pick for the Las Vegas Raiders. What do you make of this one? The Ohio State Buckeye Damon. Arnett cornerback taken at number nineteen interesting. I think a lot of people are very surprised by that He's a Guy. A lot of people had projected late second early third round So a bit of reach year. You would think from the Raiders. But it's only a reach if it doesn't work out the way that they hope he listen. He's a guy who has pretty good size for an NFL corner not prototypical. Speed really doesn't move. You know as well as you would like out of maybe a first round pick all the time more of a system that in better let zone schemes and just kind of you know fit into what do they must see him as a guy that really fits what they want much more do just about measurable goals and and how he would line up and discover man to man not really a straight man to man type corner at the NFL level just yet. I don't think he's ready for that Surprising but here's the other thing. If this is a guy. They fell in love with and really really wanted They don't have a second round pick. They don't pick again until the third round so if they wanted them they must have felt like they had to take There was a lot of reports out there that are trying to track down to trade down out of this pig apparently weren't able to get that done so They go with the guy that they want. And you don't know about these things I I've seen immediately everyone else as they reach. It's a terrible pick. They don't know what they're doing. Listen you know what you're doing? You're not spending months and months looking at these guys and breaking a bout. We don't know what we're doing. We think we know who the first Pixar we dealt of these teams have a read on it and listen to make mistakes. Sometimes they don't get the right guy but in their mind. This was the guy that fits what they WANNA do and and they take them so surprising name for sure I think a lot of people are scrambling to try to research a little bit because not a lot of people expected them to go until tomorrow but I just saw Jon Gruden. High fiving his family so he must be used. Well definitely fills a need. Here for the raiders. The cornerback position is somewhere where they needed to improve their. We're a couple linebackers out there around this position. We had talked a little bit on our Vegas Nation. Podcast about Patrick. Queen named Kenneth Murray was another name. That the raiders. Like but I guess this means that they felt comfortable with what they did and free agency and the players that they have on the roster. Now to grow from you have now. Damon are net. Someone who has twenty seven Solo tackles and his two thousand nineteen campaign with the Ohio State Buckeye. So Adam Were you surprised at all that they went defensive here and maybe not with a quarterback because like you said they don't have any picks until the third round at this point. Was this pick. What you kind of anticipated in terms of position position yes. I don't think there's any question. The raiders went into the draft wanting wide receiver in corner in the first round. And they got it. I think a lot of people are surprised. But here's the other thing about the cornerback. Position Works I think. A lot of people are analyzing the draft. It'd be included. Thought there was two elite corners in their strength and their both gone Aku had very early to number three T J Henderson went number nine. So both quarters were out In the first ten. So if the raiders wanted a corner they had to look in that group and I thought there was a group of like five or six or kind of butts together. Nobody really stood out from the pack. I thought that was a little bit behind that group. But either way They get the position that they wanted to get a guy that they absolutely believe play in their system and they're just stockpiling young. You know young corners that can play and filter for roles. That's what they're planning seems to be right now back and see if they make another move to get into the second round or if they're done all the way until the first round tomorrow night. Our net spoke after being picked by the raiders. And here's what he had to say about becoming the number nineteen overall pick in the NFL draft. I consider myself one of the best players in in in the So I feel like the best players go in the first row so I I wouldn't say I'm surprised but definitely thankful for and grateful for the Put opportunity to shy away from the athletic. I was just asking what allowed you to improve in your senior year in college. Kind of bouncing back from Eugene and improve at the next level I'll say I'll say what improved really my On approach Certain situations on the field off defeated everything so once. I got my mind right. Everything else is fun 'cause I've been the same play. Nothing I ain't I'm not more. I'm not faster than I would year ago. Or things like that on the same the same person I just had to get some things right And everything else is so Damon poverty chairs here from ESPN. And how would you describe your playing south a lot of descriptions that you being a physical? Cornerback how would you describe the way you play on the field? And how does that fit with? What the raiders. WanNa do on I say I'm physical Corner Competitive Corner. dog You know what I'm saying. All of the above. So and I feel like the raiders We don't go you don't say anything. Don't go out there fads Hor execute the football player embracing juice. You know what I'm saying. celebrates your teammates All that stuff You also David Jim Day from the NFL network Congratulations and Mike. Mayock called one of the most competitive players in the entire draft French. And how you played the season in the past Where does that stem from you? Jews always being looked as as the underdog Always eating short end of the stick and might have made a career. You know what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying like when Y'all at are you surprised gentleman I I. I'm not you got like certain people might be surprised. You know what I'm saying but I know those people are surprised 'cause I'm always the underdog but but I know what time it is time. I step out there on the gone with somebody has to say about things everybody for tuning in. We'll be back tomorrow Friday with another episode. In the afternoon we're going to do a recap with the guys vinnie. Adam Ed. They're all GonNa get on here and talk about what? The raiders did analyze the picks. So make sure to tune in for that tomorrow on the Vegas Nation. Podcast for all the guys. Thanks so much for listening. Follow us on Social Media at Vegas Nation. Keep up with everything happening on VEGAS NATION DOT COM as well as on the APP download that today Vegas Nation and of course make sure to check out our live draft shows tonight Friday. We have that show taking place at nine. Pm on Cox your view channel. Fourteen and again on Saturday at four. Pm Thank you so much. Everyone for listening. We'll be back tomorrow.

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Mornings with Keyshawn, LZ & Travis (HR2)

Mornings with Keyshawn, Jorge & LZ

38:33 min | 1 year ago

Mornings with Keyshawn, LZ & Travis (HR2)

"The monster yeah i'm circling last night's game was terrible. It was terrible when it was still fun. You still football mattered and because it was because it was such a close does game because it offenses. We kept watching every third down conversion every i was at the bar during research of course of course and everyone was tuned in cheering incompletions. It's funny with a low scoring game like that. You find yourself cheering for the oddest things. It was just a perfect example of football's power there because the game was a dog. We were texting talking about about how it's a dog and not one of us was turning it off nobody was i'm turned on my watching this fascinating one of the reasons i was into it is because i wanted to see the dynamic between rogers met leflore. Yeah really wanted to see if in fact it was going to be some little bit of something but in a third. I got a text in at third quarter from my buddy. Dave that you met down rocking hurry. He texts me because he listened to the show and he goes. I was was close. I was three minutes into the second-half right for the iro slam on the ground. When he got sacked rodgers that he is and he was like how close close to what i said and predicted so i wanted to see a little bit of that you know i kinda wanted to see what was going to happen to the little bit won the game so it's hard to really <music> out there but as key porno earlier the lack of celebration for your head coaches i ever defense instead of their house. I'm here. I'm here i'm over here and everyone kept running to defensive coordinator. The fact that the defense aaron rodgers is repeatedly talked about how the defense and was bad last year rung not you can't really tell because you have mitch trubisky and and to me. That's an important caveat to this defense conversation. It's really easy to look good against a quarterback being compared to an early alex smith. It's a lot harder it to be good against a good quarterback. You know what else is important caveat. Though that i kind of forgot who can do it is six fifty nine keys doppler on a friday uh-huh seventy degrees west covina where we will be weaker today high and ninety seven today rush. That's right only research. I did some scott last night. I got a couple more for you uh tomorrow because sometimes we got a preview. The weekend is national salami day long salami tomorrow. I like it dry. He's he's headline presented by sprint. Let salaam. It's not cut us off yeah. It's bigger and it's softer and it's greasier yes. I like like the dry yes salami freak. I don't really eat it anymore. It's pretty good ice. Ice dissolved the go to work on what you did yeah. Oh my guy. I i get the brick oven in china. They've sliced yourself yeah yeah so we'll be thick yeah but i don't. I don't eat it like that anymore. You like your thick <hes> cocco doodoo talk to do to do so. I work yesterday morning. Obviously with you guys and then i had television again last nice so i had to drive back downtown l._a. Didn't get any per diem or anything like that gas money or nothing from radio or television so i took it and and kept him moving so got to downtown l._a. In chris text me in in our text him or something and asked him if he was at the studio but he was hanging hanging out with dan in the secret meeting over at king's fish or king fish rock was raw fish. Yeah rock fish hanging out iraq for just connected. Iraq improves big fans of art. Show of course is that rock music. I yeah that's okay. The scrimp shrimp is really good. Well i'll tell you what do you mean. I see it because i already knew it last night. Yeah you knew it last night. Okay so studio television studios across from it so i went over there with dan in the chris and we watched some of the game together some shore native had their beers or whatever they were wanted buttery and he said forget the may i got a little bit of naked got on t._v. And stuff several hours late. I'm not sitting up there pulling pulling it down. Oh wait three classes. It was to stop and it was light but speaking light ale got chris in in in dan- ordered <hes> roast beef sandwiches or prince tips. That's it's always good choice yeah but you had to see how big they were. Is you had him. That's a big thing there's no way inhale allows have been able to eat all at bread. Can you only get half of it so chris. I was watching him as i said next to him but i don't know if he saw me watching you trying to face adele was watching the t._v. And then i reached for my phone one time to try to pick. I wanted to video pick one going to do injustice. I was on a video high devoured lowered. The sandwich didn't devour because it did take me a while. Don't take you were trying to slow because you knew i was there. He was trying to say a dance. I'm a slow eater accrues interest. You know when you have a lot of food you still leave so i'm not eluding lick the plate like adult the things i was going to go which salad which is usually i didn't because dan ordered the french dip. I thought oh that sounds good my day yesterday so we ordered what seven p._m. I had been in the office office in three a._m. And i barely eight so yeah i was hungry. I understand but if it okay you need some time you because you don't know even know oh you said you eight is slow. That's not eating slow. I was pretty slow note. It's not here's the class thing gone and ten minutes not ten or fifteen minutes yeah well now. It's fifteen chris fifteen chris's french dip sandwich or the tuna gulfstream. The sale was the tuna because he had the debris it. You got a lot of brands so yeah a lot out of chewing the going on but he finished that whole thing and then dan actually is little is he is he actually finished too. I watched him at all the fries he ate every little skinny guy's yeah. I think once you gotta watch you gotta. Watch them high behind videotaping right. It's kind of like the skinny girls. Hey <hes> who <hes> what was. I gonna say oh that was keys headline in the morning. This is what i'm talking about this morning. You're listening to me. Hey s._p. Key i think all right so antonio brown may or may not get suspended. We're still waiting to find out whether or not that's that's gonna go down deactivated whatever it is. Here's his agent drew house talking about the latest. Can you tell us what the latest antonio brown is right now. I'm talking the raiders trying to get the situation worked out. Nothing has been finalized. I'm not aware of any final decisions just trying to get back on track at this point t- nasty antonio the state hong today and obviously we want him to get back to work so we're trying. I'm working on right now. Is there any chance that he could play or will play week one. That's up to the raiders. If it's up to us he would like to play but ultimately that's going to be their decision. He would like to onerous contract and fulfill its commitment of the raiders. That's what we're trying to hammer out with the team right now. Do you feel like this relationship can be repaired going forward i did. I think he can be repaired and that's something that i'm working on that tonio working on so hopefully we're successful with that moving forward so he's on standby just waiting for the next up. We're communicating. Both sides are communicating to see what it would take. Hey for him to be able to move passes and rejoin his teammates so that's antonio brown's agent drew rosenhaus speaking with e._s._p._n.'s rob demob ski before the the <hes> packers in the bears last night key just really quickly. Antonio brown is in uniform playing monday night absolutely not he's so toast. I can hear it in druce answers that a._b._a. Toast i can hear it by the tone or by what he said by the tone and and what he said i could hear it. I could totally the words that he was choosing to us. He wants to whom maids he he he later. We hope to work it out. He's already been told that it ain't gonna work out now. They're just trying to figure out what it is that they need to do to move forward with the without antonio that that that's saying so when okay work it out without antonio antonio is though is is not gonna play monday night no he won't he won't be he's not going to push. The raiders. Purists getting ready to be a week to week thing they. It's getting ready to be a week to week case by case type. Were they decide week to week to suspend him to deactivate them doesn't matter which of those things that is i mean i get the money if you suspend him. There's no money to begin with no money to be had if deactivating all they're saying is he's on our team but we're not gonna using this week. Take and we're going to pay him the payment but if he's not if if he's on the opening day roster as of saturday at four p._m. P._m. eastern time fourteen million dollars of guaranteed money is due to him. That's a decision that the raiders gotta make. Is that why we're waiting. Is that way until one o'clock on saturday afternoon or are we going to be waiting to find out with all the different boxes to find out what it is that they actually actually can do from an n._f._l. Legal standpoint to save money or you know. It's one of those deals where if you do this you still gotta. Pay me the money. If you do that it you don't have to pay him the money but a grievance is gonna come and they're going to lawyer up and you're gonna be in a war for this amount of time and now it's. It's that that sort of stuff. That's going on because remember mike mayock in my opinion kind of mess with a fragile guy in an unnecessary situation that created this sort of firestorm that we're out right now. I don't know if i'm what do you mean a._b._c.'s acting like this that true but you gotta understand. General managers do not go on on the field talking to players doing practice at all. They stayed on the sideline. They wear their little caps. They got a little sunglasses on with the tease polo shirts tucked into their pants with their paper folded having a conversation with trainers having a conversation with scouts that are watching. Maybe a coach or two maybe a player. That's on the sideline but they're not engaging. No matter what the situation question is would a player was he down there explicitly and not not that antonio brown doesn't share a ton of the respond to see it. I'm not i'm with you. I'm with you but didn't go down there explicitly to bait him into exactly what he got in and what will go down there. I'm going to get him to react then. We're gonna suspend him then. We're gonna get our money and then he's gone. Was this a i don't i don't think it was. I don't think it was a blatant plan. I think mike may i think he's a tough guy like he thinks i play football. I played in college. I intercepted dan marino. Nobody nobody cares but that's his personality that sweetie. I don't know if you watched him on n._f._l. Network for even knowing yeah but he thinks he's a tough guy like man. You upset down somewhere. That's in so you knew the the only yesterday when we were talking about this in allegations. What what was it case came up first thing i said was we win this something that a kid you said it it had to be some sort of may are antagonizing a._b. In kind <hes> messing with a fragile guy that doesn't like you any damn way. He doesn't like you because you finding fifty four thousand dollars and all you had to do as a general manager was sent in him that little letter in leave it alone that's it. You don't have to do anything else if he put it on facetime or facebook or whatever he did so. Oh damn what it's not that deep but you went and mess with him. Why did you do that. We'll get to this anthem in just a moment congratulations to f- i in vegas sun valley picks those rams saints tickets for opening day. Thanks to corona extra game on lime in more chances coming up all day long playing this song before the game elsie. I hope solve this is still jam goes up yeah happy happy birthday date gainer seventy years old going. She's still with us. Yeah don't run down right exactly that's exactly why would they birthday brought to you by jaguar landrover newport beach off the seventy-three toward to see visit land rover newport beach dot com land rover above and beyond what she a when when he wondered us all i can remember what about we got to follow up. A big following liz here so i will survive was a number one song of nineteen seventy nine. This was a number nine nine song. Oh that disco fill you do anything with disco back. In this time you get top twenty five drivers. You know this all right sounds like donna. The summer never can say goodbye yeah we of course you'll know what you did. A chorus here comes here. Comes never can say goodbye met you. Oh hey kristy studio. Fifty four king chris has passed the plate man pass the plate in an amazing disco queen this. This feels like studio fifty four time so there's i come looking at some do coming down the stairs. Krista boy got his colleen shirts for sure yeah just like that and got a plea just holding a plate to roller skate with the unicorn horn ahead all the unicorn. It's nice mustache. Yeah no worries in a world where somebody over to them and said hey keyshawn what you come. See this table all right. Here's i don't know how to say this without sounding really bad here. You want me to say it is antonio brown an idiot. Yes because that's it. Here's the deal no don't don't call him an idiot to ask the question. Is he an idiot into you call him and say is he not bright right not smart not aware tonio brown not connect the dots that are a millimeter apart be because here's here's the deal saying the same thing because in what if everyone can see that the person who actually is in charge of the raiders is jon gruden and keyshawn you keep telling us he doesn't have a problem the jon gruden. He has a problem with my maniac but everybody else can see the puppeteer is telling me i work too. Why is everyone able to see these dots be be connected except for antonio brown and i'd say probably drew rose reminding you yes exactly but if every single time i am somebody tells you it's not me him then. You like okay well. That's what it is. I'm dillon. I'm nice to you. I'm cudi you. I'm cool you we could we could. We good and i'm having chris them. Make you look bad on the radio but it ain't me stimulants to keep pushing the buttons but i'm telling them. Even though i'm the one that's running the whole show too old apartment but i'm the guy telling you i like you. We cool. Don't worry about it but creasing. Keep pushing the buttons keep doing that. You're gonna eventually only at some point in time. Figure it out but right now as long as i got you you don't listen to me at some point in time is the part that i don't understand because in tokyo brown can have that. I understand you do understand. I've always told you know a lot of guys that are not aware in a national football league of things that go on around clearly 'cause. They're not really a tension. This is my point. This is being he may not understand and i don't know this for a fact that a._b. A._b. A b may not understand the league which means that he's not watching okay. Everything is unfolding before us is li like he may he may have tony. He may have two years ago. The jon gruden got one hundred million dollars in full control of the organization. He may have not known that he may just. I think all they hired coach. Okay cool. We with the raiders now on t._v. You've just <hes> yes. I think that's a possibility but again too l. z's yes and the the thing that i was struggling to put into words that you did very nicely. Well done then that makes him in idiot. If if he's because look like anybody that does any job if you're you're serious about your job. You need to know the land. You need to know who is the person that's ultimately making this decision. This person may be sitting in an office. This person may have a title but the the decisions actually coming from that guy down there. It's your responsibility to understand that and by the way that the raiders are jon gruden just not. He's just here's here's say who runs the new england patriots bill belichick okay bill belichick. Lets you know that he runs the new england patriots churn crude and let you know no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no. It's not true he went and got a shield see but what he did is shield sheila late. He got a guy calling him the general manager. You've never heard bill say. This is my general manager. I understand i can go get a guy for shield but keep yes. I understand what you're saying really at the sneaky thing but it's not sneaky right out nielsen obvious nope you because he's a b and the rest of the team that i'm just a coach. He makes all the decisions like susan susan right in your wife. Yes down in your household. Yes your wife says go ask your dad. He runs this. He makes the decision even though she makes decisions even though she makes the decision congress she's yeah she's telling the kids that shirt a woman making the decision. Okay perfect example the perfect. My children are fully aware that it's her decision. She may send them to me and they may say hey mom wanted more copped out and tone daddy. No no no no no no no. This is a perfect example. Actually that much like antonio brown in this situation. They've been paying unlike antonio brown. I should say they've been paying attention. They know that i can say yeah. We'll do that but they know that. When all of a sudden it didn't happen. It's not because i changed my mind because no no no no it's because they live in the the house. They have experience. They pay attention. They talk to their brothers and sisters. I honest- honestly man in the swear to you feel this way. I don't think he knows what you know. Then that's dining then it becomes one could be an idiot but more brand carbon dan idiot but but to their serious malpractice happening withdrew coke and its client and maybe it may not happen today. Maybe ramon would nine hundred thirty five years. Even there's something even withdrew drew suppose has even with drew telling him that it doesn't mean anything because grooten is going going to counter back and say look i'm. I'm coaching team troncoso. Bogging footba okay mic was one general manager. He makes those decisions. I don't you know i'm coaching. I'm here to coach he just met john. Drew is his agent. He's supposed to have known no drew. Drew knows so drew but it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter sadder withdrew says because the guy in the building is jon gruden and he has the ear. He's right there with a._b. Drew over there if he's that easy. He's he's got. He's dead easy too much because you remember when i'm telling y'all apprentice apprentice. Remember what i'm telling you. Remember what i'm telling you travis. The letter on the bottom says mayock signed mike mayock general manager oakland. Yeah i get that letter says his name i'm looking at it doesn't say may ox less jon gruden jon gruden. He would have a problem with jon gruden. He has a problem problem with mike and that's the reason i got into the altercation in mayock approach if may i didn't approach him ages since the letter. We wouldn't even be having this conversation. Uh we will be talking about fifty four thousand dollars loss and that's all we that's why a b. is what l z suggested. He is because he just he cam. They do it so you know. I was a garfield guy but raj garfield ruins garfield the caddo garfield and i know key he was the fowler who was on you know i didn't. We know it's going to get into garfield on going somewhere president to anyway. He was more of like aroma do he was real bunk. Shis cat hi josh here. That up man was heathcliff. Even wanna say none because you know every time i watch a word. They always say i botched it. You guys watch chris bit but that's okay. I couldn't tell you the heathcliff in garfield gar villas white. I think it was just cool. Calm laid back sarcastic. He cliff was like a troublemaker bad yeah. I liked ti cliff so you originally did. That's my point. Is you call raja heckle and jacob but also it could be heathcliff live on garfield just to <hes> just to just to put the cats hanging out heckling thirty five years ago heathcliff premiered mirror lord. I believe i i skipped the cat cartoons. Yeah i'm not. I'm not a ca though i will say the means of some cats oh he does anybody else well. You're not don't put me all in in their. Y'all be having cats and stuff. No not in the roster castle want to be bothered with willing for sales house and he had a catalog me. You said he's like those bob. Cat those those those big ones so yeah. The cat cats was moving around. Let me repeat what do you mean is moving around. I'm curious okay. So how do i say this without sounding like <hes> antonio brown campbell's creek l. z. Just moving all slow and you sit in there all of a sudden he appears. They're very quiet stalking the always on the prowl. That's what they do what their purpose in the planet is to prowl in pounds when i was <hes> when we were trying the figure out if i was going to the cowboys bills living by self big old place to stay in my house and you don't have to stay at the hotel or anything like that i said no alkyl trump cool man you got cats and dogs because we don't really as a people we kind of do. We like dogs right right. We already fu cats. No cats can't do anything for you can protect you. They won't dispenser the doing. What do you want what open open that can give it to me now. Cats are well. What's up talk to discuss all right so there's an interesting piece on e._s._p._n. About baseball one hundred years one hundred years of the live live ball era and it's fascinating because baseball we talked about all its chains has changed now. Really you look at all these different things you look at the numbers. The one thing that has changed drastically ascoli is home runs but the rest of it is very similar to what it was as far as the frequency of a head frequency of a base runner frequency of all of these different things with the obvious exception option of home runs in the question is which is better baseball with a boatload of home runs or baseball were home runs are scarce or according to the story back in nineteen nineteen nineteen fans five games one hundred nineteen thousand nine hundred. You'll see a home run once every five games now mm-hmm twenty nineteen. You're going to see a homerun you go to a game. You're probably going to see a home run. We're gonna see more than one probably going to see more than i like seeing home runs but i but <hes> i like seeing them because i like it's just exciting like all of you know all of a sudden bang all were down. We're up. All you know it's like i. I liked that part of baseball so i don't understand why people complain because it's scarcity right exactly in one thousand nine hundred nineteen you could go to three games and never see a home run they <music>. You're listening for this who said of apply to get it out over one thousand nine hundred go back to one thousand nine hundred sixty when probably participation participation for african-americans baseball's okay but dad that's where it was when the best players in the league were a lot of black players and and then the seventy s same thing in the eighties kind of the same then it starts to trail off to where you have fewer and fewer branch out because then more latinos yes started to be allow shola way and baseball. They just lied it enough that same were you saying they're brown. Brown's with the point about the scarcity is if there's three home runs at night it's still fun and because it's fun to watch the ball over the fence but it's also not unusual whereas before when you saw him run it with something special and the other part is a little bit of aesthetics that and i've have come around on this i was i was more of the home run type of fan like i wanted to see home runs now because there's dodge you're gonna see four or five home runs in any watering-down water ordered to have -solutely well. I don't want to just see home. That's right gimme a single still a base now hit a jack good. That's good opportunity to steal a pace and opt in to hit and run but i don't with three solo shots. I don't want that and i don't warring boom. Play you want the defense. After play. You want plays at basis as if as fun as the homerun is it is but when the ball when a budgeted in the left centerfield gap and that guy takes off out of the fun you know there's going to be a play at a base could be a play at second base. It could be a played third gyco sliders valley way. There's a guy on base. There's going to be a play at the plate another thing. That's going to happen in like stealing bases just movement. That's not happening anymore. Because why are they going so basically if someone's gonna hit a home run they're not putting out at risk so there's way let's move to strike out or homerun strikeout homerun guess what's not going up right now. With that are ratings nineteen eighteen nineteen you could see a steel wants to twelve games now twenty four games and the big thing travis and i were talking about not at all in one thousand nine hundred nineteen once every eighty games. You can see a triple now. It's once every two hundred and four hundred one wow it triple which i don't know if it's like a guy's second base he goes. I'm tired. I'm good. It's a the the risk of trying to advance to third is not <hes> is is is too great as opposed to all. Stay here and wait for them to drive dry ed very quickly here. Think about this vince coleman couldn't get the ball in the infield every time that guy came up to bat you're watching because if he got on base even even if vince coleman or ricky henderson ricky henderson had some pop but you had these guys like vince coleman who he couldn't get the ball in the infield he comes up to bat. You're paying attention. Must dude was going to be on third base really really quick so far. That's gone and that's no good. He was so fast and you know the day next friday friday. We will be live in west covina al pescador restaurant far football friday party next friday september thirteenth also it's the kickoff to mexican mexican independence day weekend l. pescador restaurant west covina eleven twenty five west west covina parkway off the ten freeway across the street from sizzlers. We got happy hour specials starting in at seven a._m. Breakfast specials get on our v._i._p. Was to be there and you'll have a better chance to win. Those rams saints rams home. Opener tickets texts corona to four zero zero seven zero five corona to four zero seven five. We got morning. Show t-shirts going to be a party. You know how the show the people does it all brought to you by corona extra game on lime. I'm in to make sure we get that bacon order in there too and it's buddy holly's bertha eighty-three would have been eighty yeah. I did run down eighty three years old buddy holly plane crash with yes yes and the big bopper they're all. I knew they all died in their altogether yup. I didn't know that part of it all right so remote thirty for thirty five come on now out. She's really good reporting talk. I saw the buddy holly movie. There was a great balls of fire during the louis. Hey you know what else is really good. I didn't pay it off. His birthday is brought to you. Jaguar land rover newport beach seventy three toward the sea visit land rover newport beach dot com land rover above and beyond no one else is pretty good all right it is football. Season key will start with a football topic. The chiefs are the odds on favorite to win the super bowl according to las vegas. The chiefs are the team to beat as a super bowl champs coming into the season. Take shake. I would take it right. I mean new england yeah. Oh yeah why not cause new england goes to the super bowl every year my wants. It's my it's there to step down one day right. Is there time to slow down. Is there time to let somebody. Somebody else grabbed the trophy. <hes> it's it's their time. Everything sometimes things go on forever but then eventually it stops and people take over the lakers win forever. No celtics win forever. No new england will be back at some point in time but they won't be back this year because kansas city to me in the a._f._c. is right there. They just got to figure out how to change that defense and get the defense to play is so hard for me. Evoke key to see someone be the favorite to do something when you have a historic season to be successful fifty touchdowns historic season. I need to see a normal season. It can be sustained and you still have a great deal for me to believe it but i said this to you. Before coach that you don't have to have af fifty touchdowns from patrick mahomes to be a successful winning team they can do it with four thirty haven't seen him do it yet. That's my point. They could do it with thirty thirty. Five in nike kit the rest of the touchdown somewhere else defensively special teams. I'm gonna adding one here because what you just said the new england patriots and tom brady. We'll finally start to show their age this season taking a shake it no they won't show their o._t.'s shake. It shake it. I gotta shake it. She's they won't show their age is that the pages won't finish the deal to be like a._f._c. Championship loss in kansas city type type situation for new all right. Stay with the patriots for second rob gronkowski in an interview. Yesterday said that he could quote easily return to the n._f._l. That it would take him one month month to get back in football shape rob gronkowski will play this season. Take it shake. It shake it. He won't don't play this season because bill belichick is not going to ask him to come back and bill doesn't want this in and out in and out in and out in in and out. That's not their person. It's not his personality so gronkowski. Pick up the phone sekou kubrick week nine. He'll be like well. We'll we'll let let me talk to let me talk to tommy. Let me talk to craft it. Let's figure it out that day and he'll come back to say now. We're okay because by the time what if author not but then they're not okay if they're not okay then the seasons probably gonna be over with them and then i'm going to need him back anyway. I know oh right that was that was like it either. Nobody likes being sad. Oh yeah he passed ready in a month key yeah yeah that's a long tastes for the he's already. He's already in finland guys stop. He's already in shape red-carpeted new slid. It takes different tasks about a month before the grilled chicken and grilled chicken. Didn't the muscular broccoli all broccoli. We saw the game last night. It was ugly. It was bad especially offensively both teams james. Look like you know what if we get a week or two of bad football like that n._f._l. Coaches will rethink the preseason. Take it or shake shake. Yeah that was one game was a little bit of an outlier. It's not something that happens to. Let's say we get two weeks of that. You're not it's no it's not going to happen is the key the coaches some coach who's gonna play their players in the preseason because that's what they know and they taught and they learned and that's what it is some coaches or say no so if the rams went seven games this year we the people do you think people all of a sudden go back to plan their guys know. Mcveigh is going to say i'm not putting my guys is again next year. Here's the here's the scenario that i was thinking about last night watching this. It could be one of those where somebody says. You know what we're right on the bubble. We might be a playoff team. We might not this thing could go either way but what if i can grab a couple early. Games didn't set a split in these two. I can get him in what i'm gonna do is. I'm going to be a little bit sharper for two weeks right out of the gate. That's the scenario to me that makes she's thank you know what maybe i will play my guys certainly after watching the rams first half against the raiders and then watching what we saw thursday there is something to be. He said about not having any preseason for starters. It just doesn't look right so you're right travis. A smarty pants may play their guys. The last two preseason gains because because then for them. They don't have the kinks to work out but if you're a bad team is not going to matter in my opinion because a good team is going to rise to the occasion with in the course of a game. Hey whereas a bad team. It doesn't matter if you've got a head start playing you guys. Not you stink you still think and and guess what why would you say your guys in the preseason last couple of games when when people were playing dogs your team's gonna be planning against dogs the last couple of games it doesn't it's not going to happen and out of the huddle sharp. You could do that in practice obviously not doc no. It's just that first of all they green bay green bay went up against a good defense in chicago aaron rodgers sack five times he was hurried. I don't know how many so so it's it's a little bit different. That's all it's your bisky going mean bitch bisky. You know that's for sure. Eagles head coach doug peterson said carson wentz. Let the team work for oh you carson. Wentz will take that advice. Take it or shake it. Take it take it all carson. Wentz will let the team worked worked for him. He got players. They brought in tucson jackson. They got a nelson aguilar. El al sean jefferies they they're toying around with the idea of adding melvin gordon to the backfield so when you start to look at that they're trying to give him as much weapons around him to be successful as possible. If you allow allow other people to do the job for you and you just get the credit. You'll be successful if you try to do it all by yourself. It's not gonna work. It's not gonna work. Ezekiel elliot will touch the ball twenty five or more times on sunday. Take it or shake take. I'll take really know camp. No nothing no soft torino renault joey bosa first time you go you pull something worse. I i said thirty five earlier i think between twenty five and thirty touches for him twenty twenty or so on the ground in a couple of screens bags balls out of the backfield to now check now's in all that to buy to check swing passes rail routes. I mean he's gonna they do fifty million dollars. You think they've just be like because then. I cut both ways though key. I just gave him fifty million dollars. I don't wanna blow a tire in the first game in china blow a tidy cleanest giants. They're trying to blow all four tires four of them right. I mean there's no there's no late. Let's we got sixteen games. We gotta play. We got the playoffs. Hopefully let's. Let's make sure that we don't have z. Cam leasing workhorse. We got two years. Maybe three you can't do that. Two or three years to utilize is him to get the best out of him. Running the ground like a dog. That's that's the terrier believe i know it is reported reported that the deal is like six or seven years eight years or something like that mess a two to three year deal. That's it. We're going to run in the ground. Get the most out of here and while we can because if we don't don't we're gonna wind up missing the playoffs this weekend. 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Mornings with Keyshawn, LZ and Travis (HR 1)

Mornings with Keyshawn, Jorge & LZ

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Mornings with Keyshawn, LZ and Travis (HR 1)

"<music> boring is were the weekend. It was fantastic. Yeah looked like it yes. I think everybody did alright this weekend. I was making cosmo's shake rocks consensus and also created a new cocktail for myself uh-huh. I call it a cucumber delight. That sounds out. I'm in yes committee career. You get cucumber. You know liqueur you mix it in with a little graph graf boy healthy limit okay six six hundred sixty six win win. I was so ever the whole cucumber. I suggested key with your with your chef. Boyardee on friday. Pretty darn good. Not bad at all. Alcohol was pretty consistent i will i'd say a month the weekend i <hes> you one though that expressive r._t. Yeah that looked pretty bad looked so damn martiniere friday friday. I don't know wherever you were wherever you are on friday. When i say in the picture from the bar new responded with the chocolate martini or that was you don't have that point i was i remember that's what happens with the expressive martini experts chocolate martinis that means you had a long runway way. That's basically what the final finish line. That's exactly see belt was buckled up. I was walking home at that point. Yeah yells yells at home because i was down at the down at the bottom of the hill decided to walk to the i don't know i just wanted to walk. I guess in did you carry your anti coyote <music> spraying stuff. When you have to stick no to stick i was good. I just wasn't even thinking you know they're nocturnal key. Well i mean i guess what though i don't have a dog whitney some okay. They're not coming after me. They want you to think i they're not coming nat king. I know how to gang up on you and you just going to say you know what they could never. I wish he would run a they well. They hunt and paxi there. Maybe mike may action tony brown and see if it works because we you guys tell me it felt like we got you know his feeder healing and the helmet thing was kind of a whatever he was upset set and they got it squared away and he's back and now it turns out that antonio brown is upset about his helmet again and general manager mike mayock. He's had y'all know that did a._b. Is not here today. So here's the bottom line. He's upset about the helmet issue. We have supported that we appreciate that at this point. We've pretty much exhausted all avenues of relief so from our perspective. It's time for him to be all in or all out all right. Let's start start right here key. Why was mike mayock the guy that went and sent that message because we've heard jon gruden talk about a b we saw jon gruden at that press conference say we've supported him through this this. This is a personal decision and gruden was pretty calm in talking about it. You could tell he was on antonio brown's side and now because this is round two of this they send out the general manager who clearly was sent aren't enough of this what they got the gruden's tired and he said he's tired of talking about it after the phoenix the arizona cardinals game he said you know what i'm. I'm tired of talking about it any mayock. Obviously he gets time to shine. He gets to step up and make it seem as though he's real general manager and he's the one who hired route and he has the authority which at all honesty. I really don't care about what mike mike. You're saying at the end of the day. You didn't even need to talk to the reporters. You could just simply say you know what we're dealing with it in house. We'll we'll. We'll do the situation but to stand up. Beat your chest like a tough guy with glasses on like you just stunning pool when used to be n._f._l. Network i'm not a big fan yeah. I don't like mike people trying to do that. Sort of stuff if you wanna deal with a._b. A._b. just deal with it you don't need to you don't need to tell the media. Obviously he's not here and you know look he's in or he's out. You don't need to do all that but if they chose to do that and to your point that he got to pretend to be the g._m. For a day clearly jon gruden game a green light to go do of course there's no question about. They're on the same page as far as the message that needs to be sent. There's there's no question about that. But you you don't need to do that is serving. I get it. I understand what you're doing. I'm not defending abo defeated before but i'm like i'm tired of it. It's it's wearing me out every single day now. It's like something else with this. Do like come on man like just get out for a walk around. You're gonna lead you. What's gonna wind up. Happening is at the end of the day. They're going to figure out a way to try to get that money back guarantee money out what to do in neom we walk around looking like a buffoon now now people that you people look at you like you like you stupid as it is already i mean you you gotta at some point his agent scumbag back agent drew rosenhaus is using the opportunity to go on national t._v. It talk about it to recruit the next guy. Do i stop. We have already happened rain morale. Won't you tell your client to get with it to start to play. Get healthy start to help the team not coming around every single day. It's a different issue like who leaves to keep leaving practice all the time like so almost right there yeah. That's that's the thing a and the line that giro's had was. We're not sure that we've exhausted. All of the options as mayock said that's what he's saying with regards to the helmet thing. This is it it really about that or is it. This unquenchable desire to be the center of attention. This unbelievable need to be talked about regardless whether it's positive negative or or anywhere between that in tokyo brown needs to be spoken about constantly so the way they did it again. Is this helmet. I'm going to do it all over again he. He couldn't think of anything else so oh all just redo the helmet thing feels like i don't know man is this is just kind of kind of old told me. It says his old would too okay. No the part of it talk exactly continue to talk about a damn helmet. Yeah just put a domino man right. They got seventeen thousand helmets. You can get certify that you wear and be safe one of the okay one of them is going to be okay. It's not even about the helmet you win. It's about the person let's go hit you. That's what it's about. Those homeless is certified by the n._f._l. In whoever company is not putting you in a position to get a headache. That's not their goal. Their goal is not to do that so any helmet that you wear you feel certain you had that helmet when perfect you swear swearing down he was getting ready to we was going to be at a funeral. That's you know what i'm saying like did protect you. You still wind up with a concussion so to speak which you know if key if you're tired of it right if you're just like do enough with the helmet enough with it and and i think that everybody probably feels the same way in our universe do antonio man. What are you imagine being a raider. Imagine being a teammate and having everybody run up to your locker after every practice or everybody coming to say hey what's up the helmet what's up with a._b. What's up with his feet. It's it's always something with this first thing. I will say that they read a bouma locker. It's not my problem man. Go talk to the coaches. I don't you know oh but you you leaders that i got here. My home is in my locker. Here's drew rosenhaus this morning on get up. I talked to mike mike multiple times yesterday. We're on the same page. We're working together. We understand the clubs frustration. We understand that they juan antonio back. We get all of that and everyone please understand that he wants to be there. <hes> it is difficult for him to practice actes take hits whatever with a piece of equipment that he's never used before and so that's why we're trying to iron this out so everything can go smoothly. The rest tested the season. We're looking for a permanent solution all right so that's drew rosenhaus on get up this morning. There's a whole bunch there. We'll get response key next <music> waking up with he sean and his boys. It's kind of like that milk splashing on your cereal in the morning. Oh yeah no not this time t._j. Hooker what no man i hear you more combat rundown. Oh but there was there was the dragon you gotta enter the dragon into the drag bruce lisa <music> forty-six years ago today. Is this the one where he fought kareem. No no. I know that he fought kareem at some point. Koreans toes it. I don't know i don't know all of bruce lee exit the dragon exit exit data dragons close enough the dragons guys aren't fairly feeling bruce lee all that money talk knows a great fighter <hes> <hes>. I'm not sure if dealing with chuck norris sure. Do you remember that no oh man that was your people that was people's hero ancho well texas ranger chuck norris. Well yeah chuck norris. I never i get i get it. I mean i don't get it that makes sense. Just didn't look right though no no one the only one. I need to respect the great bruce lee all right so antonio brown is the center of attention again. Which is what. I think this is exactly what he wanted. Antonio brown wanted to wake up this morning and hear people talking about antonio brown and hear people talking about his refusal play unless he gets his helmet squared away. Mike mayock said look. We've done everything we can't on the helmet. We supported them with them. We've exhausted all the options there. He's either in or out and his agent drew. Rosenhaus was on get up this morning saying not necessarily i talked to my multiple. We'll times yesterday. We're on the same page. We're working together. We understand the clubs frustration. We understand that they want antonia you back. We get all of that and everyone please understand that he wants to be there. It is difficult for him to practice. Take hits whatever with a piece of equipment that he's never used before and so that's why we're trying to iron this out so everything can go smoothly the rest of the season. We're looking for a permanent solution first of all of death game of death first of all you don't get hit so we talking about take hits in practice now. Now you just running your mouth. You don't take hits in practice practices like t shirts and shorts flags. It's flag and football helmets like stop why and so is he wants to be there if he wanted he'd be there. I'm sure he wants to be there but it's like anything when you're a kid if your parents allow you to get away with doing look that you just this nailed key here. Let let's listen to mike mac again because listen to this and you guys tell me what's missing from this because there's an incredibly important part of this. It's never said hey y'all know that a b not here today so here's the bottomline he's upset about the helmet issue. We have supported that. We appreciate appreciate that at this point. We've pretty much exhausted all avenues of relief so from our perspective. It's time for him to be all all in. We're all out all right so that's raiders general manager. Mike mayock with phrases like okay. Here's the bottom line. You're either all in or you're all out. We've exhausted every possible avenue avenue. That's the tough guy. Let's say what's not. What's missing or else or else. Well says econo- said. I hope he does a game like a fake what else because he's all in all because i said i hope for him to be here week one right but that was kind of like leaving it. Ah cadillac a wou ki like you just said like with your kids or anything else the only way you get them to actually move to actually do it is if if there's some or else they're this this wasn't he needs to be here or else. We're going to blink. It was just he's in a row over opportunity. There's no there's this weirdo coach. Our else will be here this week. It'll be he works for your else. It'll it'll come out this week that they're looking into the contract of antonio brown. They've met with the n._f._l. P._a. This find out if they watch if he doesn't come into practice in get in line within the next hour. Call it three days. You're going to start to hear hear that. They've talked to the n._f._l. They've talked to the n._f._l. P._a. to try to figure out what is left for them to do can they take his money. Watch what i tell you but so it's gonna i'll start to happen but what's his in game like what is the many for him because you are so funny. You're not going to get your helmet. No so what's the endgame. I i don't know but what's so funny. Arosh is that people like you stupid and don't know i it. I would put me in the same category isn't antonio brown. That's just crazy neck right there. They just say they will put me in the same category as a diva with antonio brown. People voted you right there. That makes me sick to my stomach. That in person would think that i would do such a thing because i told the coach go pouncing it lost f- detrimental to the team is what's going on right because it is camp because you know brown nose to say man. Stay away. I'm getting better opportunities opportunities and more opportunity to stay away detrimental to der cars at detrimental to jon gruden been done for he's a pro. He knows how to run all routes all around the same. Dare car knows how to deliver. The football takes three days to get in sync. They've worked out together and he all season if he knows the playbook and knows when the lineup and do all those sorts of things not going to be a problem travis just so key schofield's better ooh a._b._c. finished with thirty seven percent of the votes t- yoga twenty six percent you wanna get twenty four percent receiver. Keyshawn johnson lashed out at the head coach on national t._v. and then oh b._j. Thirty percents so really less than one fourth show diva lever yeah but the fact that you would even have me. I'm not the only that the fact that shaw would even that y'all would even put my name align with such characters is ridiculous louis too but i'm not gonna defend myself. I'll let others duo lashed out at the head coach on national t._v. There are key just over your shoulder on e._s._p._n. It said antonio brown on. I notice notice what no one saying he needs to be here or he's not gonna play. He needs to be here or taken his money. He needs to be here or else. There's the the notice was there upset. Well guess what we're all been upset with him going all the way back things they just. It just happened yesterday i did. He leave barron aaron left or did he not show up because they just said he's not here so he didn't get his helmet cleared so he bounced okay so he gets in his car and he leaves again. I love it. That's so great sexy <unk> sexy. That's really what you should be doing he really should you really should show up. Lookie locker which you're looking for is go ahead and just leave so if it's not detrimental the team it's not detrimental to car in the offense and everything else is it. I mean i get that. We need to talk about detrimental to him right. That's the thing it's him. It's short sighted because clearly this is a man who likes to spotlight clearly. This is a man who likes being talked about this is probably someone who fancies himself as the personality away from the game. Perhaps someone who may get an opportunity beyond in a countdown someone who may get to being a boost somewhere what this is what he's probably thinking in his head because he sees himself clearly in a certain light what he's not being paying attention to and what drew has failed him at and saying you may see yourself through through this muir but this is what everyone else has seen without the mirror and we gotta clean this up. If you want that part of your career to angle that that i look at the end of a day he's gotta make choice okay and a decision on what he wants to do. This is consequences choices and decisions. There's all three of those and he's at a point now where he's he's a guy that everybody is now going to be talking about over the next forty eight hours. The team starts off in the wrong situation in week four. They start losing guess what is going on. You is going to say what you did in preseason yeah. That's exactly what's going to happen because look. Let's to be honest. It's we've got two weeks ago. We got two more preseason games the beginning of the n._f._l. Season starts that second week in february okay. He's gonna be there. I mean does has anybody thinks that antonio brown's and not going to be in the lineup on that first son or they get the raiders actually play that first monday. I don't really want the truth. Yeah i mean the way right so so oh well we say and he's going to finish training camp with the raiders or we saying that he's not gonna participate until he gets a new hill. I'm not saying either. One of those things. What i was saying is that by the when the raiders play week one monday night football antonio brown will be in the line of battle. I don't know that to be true. You think you might miss it over a helmet where they've tall tall tired of dealing with him. Yeah we'll shut it down. Shut it down. I think so. I think thanks so i i think so because did this is really i mean it's a it's antonio brown situation but this whole team and his organization and everything is really about john grew in if antonio's going to treat it the way these treating now and been around grooten any kind of know john a little bit about his ego and he's not gonna put la the push back. He's gonna wind up figuring out how to get some of that money back if not all of it in cinemas weigh in at third a three and a five they gonna be like oh li'l now i'm just telling you that's why i say to you this week if he doesn't come into practice you're gonna start to hear how they're gonna go after the money next receiver keyshawn johnson lashed out at the head coach on on national t._v. Who did he's on really wanna do a morning. 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Yeah blessed mris guests seeing some hoops okay but on nightclothes nate dogg actually had a son that was pretty good football but that didn't work out so great <hes> well happening just on tel- mill trouble and stuff just just young you know young in little immature and got caught up in some stuff that he shouldn't have been in fifty years old dog is birthday is brought to you by jaguar aguire land rover newport beach off the seventy three towards the sea visit landrover newport beach dot com land rover above and beyond why you guys looking weird what do you mean yes. Y'all just up to something that was expected. Respecting the great nate dogg's birthday god bless the dead uh-huh funny funny pages. Let natives looks like the up to select strain like they doing something. They shouldn't be doing playing footsie or something under the table. There's stuff going on under no has another free hand all right. We saw the demarcus cousins towards a._c._l. S._e._o. which sucks for him which sucks for the lakers <hes> it also means that the lakers need to find somebody to replace him that they gotta find another body to come in and replace what they were hoping to marcus cousins was can give them or at least partially replaced with the marcus cousins gonna give him the name that keeps popping up in the name that the lakers are reportedly doing their due diligence on is dwight howard not is technically a member of the memphis grizzlies <hes>. He got traded to them in the middle of the season from from washington. He was in washington for minute and moved on down the road to memphis dwight howard two point oh in l._a. I it sounds like a terrible idea idea the way that it went originally and the way that dwight howard is seen now through most n._b._a. Fans is but telling you when you look at what's out there like the best option eh revisit. We wanna revisit. We're going to revisit because listen do i house first tenure as a laker wasn't clouded outed by dwight necessarily as much as all the other pieces around it and this is what i mean kobe number one they brought in a guy who had an office of skied that did not value the post play which now any ruffle feathers of dwight howard but also remember power go saw wasn't very happy about it either her and it just seems to me if you got power go saul and you got dwight howard or not make a change. You make a change instead. He's got two jumpers. There's if you can't coach anything but what you know is very difficult to to make a change to me. Great coaches can always make adjustments <hes> with the talent that the have you just because because you apollo running team and football and all of a sudden you got just this clip the wide receivers as aaron rodgers on your team. Let's some different exactly right. That's it's not right dantonio. Anyone do not differ so shoot threes and i think i took it out and i've always kinda. Sorta defended big shoulders in the past. Ask about that would be dwight howard. I how things turned out for him. <hes> it's it's one of those situations well. I'm willing to to roll the dice on him because it's a totally different organization and it was when he was hit a first time around the only real people are in the building or the buses. That's it who else is in the building. There's nobody on the team is none of the trainers is none of this. None of it's a totally different situation that some of the same fans but i think that the fans is it's so funny and professional sportsmen when you're star player size off on it. It's like the top head coach when the top head coach makes a decision about a player everybody else buys in <hes> when you're a top player on the team is okay with it and everybody buys in when anthony davis and lebron. James are not saying oh man. We don't want that dude on our teams. Everybody else bison. Everybody else starts to say well. He must be an all right guy because they're willing to play with him because if there wasn't willing to play with him you would certainly here lebrons campus whispering now. They don't want to do that or such and such a saying. That's not the way to go. Well the the other thing that's changed dramatically to or the expectations of dwight himself that when dwight came here the first time it was still in the short list of best player in the league dwight was <hes> on the list of at least the top ten top twelve top fifteen guy a guy that was an all m._b._a. Performer a guy that was an all star and you get to white howard and you're thinking okay here here. We go now the the expectation for dwight. Is you know you're gonna play twenty minutes a night. If you get ten points and six rebounds that's a win for us if you defend the rim that nobody's looking for him to be an all star or nobody's looking for him to do anything other than to give you some decent minutes and be a big i around the hoop and do the work. Why does he have to give decent minutes. Why couldn't he give you whatever whatever the max is for him if he does great but then my point is that he can't do it. My point is is that the expectations of dwight coming in are far different. He's he's looking to philly roll not be part of a koby nash pow for headed monster. He just needs to be a guy and get a dis way lebron's way. Let them do their thing and philip spot. That's that's a different expectation different expectation and so what we as fans and maybe the team expected. Dwight howard should settle down in a certain degree. Unfortunately the question is what is do. I howard see himself as himself as a role player. That's going to give you ten to fifteen he minutes does he or does he answer questions of that. Nature with the tone of i still gotta lot left in the tank and by laughlin tank meaning shots i see see that's see that's the thing i don't think so when you hear a veteran say i got a lot a lot left to give if there are superstar that a lot left to give means all star appearances if they've always been a role player than they know but you gotta remember though this dude is is odor is time has passed him by. He's never play with somebody like a._d. In lebron james kobe bryant was at the kind of like at the tail end of that whole situation. I mean that so. It's a totally different you plan with the number one player in the world. The probably the number of top to top seven players in the world because everybody wants to be with the cool kids. We let travis join in first few minutes next on the morning show. I got the full context of life. You got a different track. Don't you just have to kind of take it. All in in the moment in either enjoyed her not for what it's well it it was the singer to this. Oh yeah. I didn't know you guys are talking about either. We're all kind of confused. You have to listen to the lyrics chrissy. Now we it but nobody heard what you said. You gotta rolled off to the side. No i'm fine brand. Nobody because you guys know pay attention that's right. That's right well all right. <hes> the rams lose again on saturday and whatever who cares the game the score the game going out. There's a three game losing streak. Though you want to get really do make it sound terrible when it's not they've gone for three points and three points three straight points ten points yeah so this points in their last week so that's not great games. They played a starter and one of the one of the games they played the stars and here's here's exactly why sean mcvay and it's not just sean mcvay anymore. We're seeing more and more of the n._f._l. Where -rupt about half of it now or they're not playing lina the guys the rams played one of their guys who might be a starter in mike a kaiser a tourist pack and we don't know how long he's going to be gone. That's why these games are silly meaningless and certainly dangerous. If you're going to be a guy that's gonna play anyway. We'll look he's gonna you can give plenty of work now okay so when when i was playing when i played it wasn't a whole lot of scrimmaging going on with teams. You had a few joints prac- sims. I had full. It wasn't the entire league he doing it now. Everybody does it. You can get your work in the joint practices as a frontline guy all the work that you need is. Is it your same keith dude. Am i going to get the same work in am. I going to get up to game speed if i'm doing joint practice work as opposed to exhibition of everybody but if everybody is doing when it everybody's on the same speed is it makes sense to you but maybe it's not game speed because it's just a practical but if everybody is doing it right if i'm doing you're doing it and and we're doing it in a joint practice and we're frontline guys we're never gonna see those guys that actually play in the preseason because their second and third fourteen you guys that probably are not gonna make the team or be heavy special teams guys situational guys so when regular season stores. You and i are going to be on the same speed. We're gonna be on sci-fi because we did it. We've done the same work we say done same work but if i'm doing gang speed work and you're doing practice be working and maybe i'm gonna be a little ahead of you in the preseason is slow anyway. The preseason is not as fast as you think. Guys are still flying around because they're trying to make the team but overall. It's not a regular season game and it's not playoffs beat you look at what we saw two and again you're dealing with guys that are backups at best and then a bunch especially for the rams is because they don't have a bunch of open roster spots. We know who's going to make the team. We know who's going to be on the fifty three man roster with very few exceptions but what we did see was daryl henderson who record pass out of the backfield and it was that was those moments and they don't happen very often in the preseason where you go that right there that right there is going to be a play that we're gonna the sea and that's why they draft him because he caught a pass on the right side and he just ran bass. Jalen smith a starter for the cowboys like he was nailed to the ground. I mean he ran past pass that dude and that was one of those that's why they took him where they took him and and that's the thing about it is when you have an opportunity certain guys at a young. That's what the preseason business for preseason is now for joy bolsa aaron. Donald you know <hes> gear golf tiger early this now what the preseason is for <hes> pre the season is for guys to understand what pro football is like what the speed game could potentially be try to impress coaches on all phases of the game offense defense. This is special teams and if you do that then it'll be fine me getting a look at baker may feel in for short period of time. Hi is okay because he play last year so he shows you could plan roles so i'm okay winning just engineering drive or two down the field like tom brady drive down the field. Matt ryan played this weekend. I mean some of the prescott played some is. Yes some guys get it. I was a guy who liked the planet preseason but at the the same time i knew how to protect myself a new how to get out and i needed to get down the ride abounds. When i need to run out of bounds if you could do those sorts of things then yeah but overall if you're playing all eighty three of your guys or however many is on the roster ninety guys that you somebody's going to get hurt. Somebody's is going something's going to happen. I was watching the game last night. Quarterback backup quarterback for minnesota vikings went to sly seattle who got hit by the seattle whose insure he almost got killed killed. He he went to slide dude helmet-to-helmet yeah but he's also 6-foot-9 talk. He might have thought he was down. I understand that but that's just not right in your putting more abuse on your body and you don't need to know preseason uncle who away right now because there's money being made i figure i heard i heard over the weekend that one of the things that may be affixed to to this to eliminate a couple of preseason games and not take money necessarily off the table for the owners because that's why they have these games get paid on these games their ticket prices gate everything else yeah minnesota minnesota was sold out to charge and televise joint practices so they're the can get some money and so in the raiders and the rams go up to do a joint the practice you will get to see aaron donald you will get to see jared goff and todd gurley and he's being no but if they can if they can find a way to get a little it's not any less or more boring within a preseason game dreadful. I know but it's just silo. No you know what i want. I want we saw speaking with sean mcvay and mike dunn great now. I will listen to that. I louis great preseason coaches on the sideline as long as they're good sean mcveigh every single every single game you know what he was. You know what it reminded me of was tony romo in the sense that they know it. They say the identified immediately. Here's what's going to happen. We're gonna move this guy over here for that. We're going to see what the backer does here and then up there. It is boom and it's doing it in real time. It's just is an insight into expertise is real it was but he also is so media ready and i don't know how long he wants to coach. Hopefully is for the next forty years but if he decides he wants to do something else is evident is obvious this guy was made to be on television in front of a camera doing exactly what he did on saturday key can the two point. Oh all coaches do sean mcveigh did on the weekend which is they put a headset on understanding. They're standing there. He's watching it and just by the way that they line up just by the way they move one guy. He knows instantly what he's looking at. He can explain it very quickly about what's abbott. Is that just like this will be. A hell of a lot of coaches and a lot of players can identify pre-snap re. What's going on as soon as you break the huddle. I mean because you studied. It's not a test is everything is like a test man you when you're planning and you're watching six gain tape six games of tape of a team in an opponent. There's only so much stuff that they can do. There's only so many formations they can get in both defensively and offensively personnel groupings alignments. You can look out there. You go okay. This is what's gonna happen. I mean you you'll be able would you should be able to tell why are you saying noelle's because you because it isn't just about being able to read the pre snap read. It's about the deliveries about the timing is about the comfort of actually being explained what you're saying. That's not what he was asking. I don't believe i think he was asking can every single coach. Identify was getting ready ready to happen in articulated in such a manner in which you can understand and i believe that most coaches and players at a high level can do it. You gotta be high level says no because it takes a certain level of communication to actually make it digestible and i don't think there's a lot of coaches who may be they do but they can't explain z. Granison tail keyshawn johnson boxer about journalism about how to actually the report on t._v. We've thrown a headset on freddie. Kitchens are not entirely sure sean mcvay morning thanks show with keyshawn l z and travis coming up next or hey helps key open his morning pistachios.

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Making Moves

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22:23 min | 1 year ago

Making Moves

"Ability to media sick quoting love. I like football. I like football season everything that goes with it so much happier that ensured sound. Can you imagine if rob gronkowski said that we will be saying. Here's tiring from football. Look at how i would actually love for bella check to say with greeny greeny said in a texas more than two kayla. Which was oh premium. You didn't. That's how he says. If you just like that homeboy d from clark anyway we'll start with ezekiel elliot. The cowboy seemed to one back for week. One more than jerry jones implied elliott is back with the cowboys after agreeing to a six year deal with fifty million dollars alba's guaranteed pablo. We all understand the distractibility of running back. Cowboys pay too much. I think they did because i do fundamentally agree with the nerds who say that value over replacement player here matters right tony pollard the difference between him and zeke elliott behind that offensive line probably smaller than the contract at zeke received but i'm not really flabbergasted by this i mean he'd be todd gurley by five million dollars on the guarantees and teams employers everywhere businesses. They tend to pay to avoid the unknown especially when what they got actually maybe the best that the position right but they already told us like if you're getting mad now about the idea that they paid them more. They took them number four or the draft like they told you right then and there what they thought they had and this guy he is actually exceeded the expectations. I think the most would have had when they took him fourth in the draft now with zeke d. as important here here is that when a running back is going to be worth the kind of money that he's going to get is at this point in his career. The problem is ordinarily by the time you got a chance to get that kind of bread. Your contract is at its end. They start using all the miles that you had against right. I think he's probably worth the money they are going to pay him to have. They basically can get out of this. After three years. That's his law go window as you'd would expect with everything they invested in that offensive line. They're going to figure out what to do with deck and cooper but this is probably the best player and they're paying him even not even like he's their best player just like he's a really good running back so this is what's weird to be then what we've been doing for this entire summer because we got was jerry jones saying that this specific deal was insane. He was saying saying that. We don't need a rushing champion bowl arche. We won't set the market except that now. He's saying to everybody loud and clear. We need this running back to win the super bowl. So what was his grand plan all of this. If there was one grand plan to the hope that he would come back right like this at every turn. Hopefully he'll come back but in the end we're probably gonna wind up having i'm going to pay him to a degree for zeke mad. I hope they give me everything that i wanted but in the end i'm probably going to wind oh coming back which is basically every negotiation that there is it is through the history of time. He's eight. Maybe just maybe wait this out long enough. He won't take all the money that he wants and i think they looked up and realized now man dues go camp out for wild if he needs to and i think that eta point zeki look and you're like we're not getting any more money out of this do this and now the cowboys are in this position where they are being very cow boyish. They are believing in their own exceptionalism because the other reason why you do this beyond the fact that they were gonna. Do it the whole time anyway. It's because fundamentally you believe that look todd. Gurley has the orthopedic knee. We're gonna hope in bank that this does not happen to us because still obviously the truth about running backs does remain yeah but the thing is you got to do that with every football ball contract that you signed regardless. We make this very particular running back and only difference. We're running backs. Everybody else is the shortness of the back end of the contract but that's not really what we're talking. What about here with ezekiel elliott like the cowboys signing up. We get the prime of a potential hall of fame running back. I don't think that's ridiculous. I think it was ridiculous if they did this. Guy like adrian peterson for for example which i think is a fair comparison. Give it was impact is on this office that they have so yeah. No by good you go ahead you make this move you make this decision and look. They got to win now team. That's the point we can't lose sight of. This is a team that should be competing for a super bowl. If you've got a team that should be competing for a super bowl. That was the additional levers that eliot had in order to get the additional money and you know it's a little hard to say as people uncomfortable jerry's getting kind of old banking window number two with the point that he's at in life well well. He is knocking on various doors. It's true but he is also somebody who i think can afford. This is a weird to also have reaction of like fifty million dollars guaranteed not follow the m._b._a. But there's no shock but also think about this every time now. One of those quarterbacks gets windows thirty dollars deals when we go oh my goodness thirty million dollars is always always somebody to pop up right quick and understand. It'll be like hey but as the cap has grown. This is the smallest percentage smaller percentage of the captain used to be. You can use that exact same logic when you talk about this deal. What is fun to me. Is how use a totally different lodge doug about quarterback contracts been anybody else's our next thing is antonio brown because his response to this disciplinary later letter from raiders g._m. Mike mayock which describes fifty four thousand dollars in total fines this preseason with it's the post a letter to his instagram stories with this caption quotes when your team wanna hate but there's no stopping me now devil why everyone got to pay this year so we clear at raiders in quote so bomani. Are we clear no. It's okay. I guess i don't okay. Are you okay matt. How're you going to make them pay like. I just explained to be right fast. How exactly is it that you are going to make the raiders eaters pay and i can't imagine the frustration that you got if you grew or your maniac rely hey man we've been finding this dude and we've been keeping quiet. We're not trying to make spec allow double. We're trying to get everybody body on the same page and this goes turns it into a thing that winds up on our television. Show winning didn't have to be like that. It is not just a thing on our television show. This sounds like a threat set like what is on the other end of this promise. You're all going to pay. What more do you want. It's telling that the stuff that he's mad about in this case fifty four thousand dollars worth of fines there was missed walk through ms practiced blah blah blah. That's not even the stuff we knew about. The stuff that we knew about was the frozen feet was the helmet it. This is the other stuff that only thanks to antonio brown bo. Do we know that all this other stuff was happening to the thing that i feel like if you're the raiders that you wanna be able to trust what to do like this is that we're all in this together and i understand the idea if that's what they want and this is a repudiation of the idea that we are all in this together because this did not have to happen and my guess is the fact that they find him for those things and they sent that letter. Some stuff happened before then some of it obviously that we i know but they had to have been brought to this point to make this decision to do this. So i stay. I and typically one person has not out here room football's right not rooting for the raiders but i do know what it's lied to be at work. If somebody don't add right dog right not so much you you act okay. Thank you the make the playoffs stuff here. It's kind of like well. What does he supposed to do right now. Now he is the villain and it's telling like we're not seeing much of gruden bridges. Antonio brown part of me is honestly disappointing. More of all of this aren't heart on hard knocks for what we have. Here is a guy who doesn't really seem to have an exit strategy for any of the controversies that he gets into but we also have a guy like who is he listening to who was advising him on this because none of this is a good look for that guy in specific two things one this is gruden versus antonio brown right like even though gruden is not in the front of this grooten bruton is in charge of everything here. It is absolutely gruden versus antonio brown the other thing and i've been saying this is about antonio from the beginning. This dude is never been on a bad team right right like think about what it was last year for the steelers to just not make the playoffs. We have never seen this dude on a bad team. What happens if they are bad like. I remember different sport everything else but the hawks one time. I got the bright idea trailer j._r. Writer and the thing about j._r. Rider was really by the time they got. It'd be better problem imported but at least portland it being good. The hawks were bad and man man he he. I don't think he made it through the whole year with the hosby because he wasn't built for that. This dude built for playing on a bad see. This was the preseason. Nothing of consequences even even happened and so the guy who missed the practice before the playoff chase ends up feeling. Maybe i can dunk on. Everybody just like ryder accident. What happens if he plays well like he's played very well and they're still bad. He's playing well in the dual can't get him the ball. Good luck coming up next with the chargers trailed gordon. Your home is important. That's why geico helps make it easy to save on condo insurance because home is more than just a place home is where you took minimalism too far because there's only one chair in your entire condo in when you're only entertainment is one card not even a deck of cards but a single card and all your guests have to share one plate and one fork but you're convinced that less stuff means more freedom. The geico insurance agency could help protect the overly minimalist broom closet you call home call gyco and see how easy it is to switch and save on condo insurance news coming from above hive. They can live a deck appear seventeen. Why do i read a made to a second year with the hawks in e._s._p._n. Get naked issue has come out and so the eagles off got naked. Jasmine jasmine are eagles fan and residents and look there is a body positively at play here which i applaud but at the same time on you know that these guys as soon as they hire going to shed about half of what they're carrying are well. I think some of them will i think that's their office a lot and who have to gain weight to play and then the ones we have to lose weight in order to play. I remember this. They have to get naked issue one time and my husky homeys man that was liberation for them. They were still represented on those pages good for you huskies out their jeff. Howe shout out to my skinny brothers. We deserves love to but i ain't gonna do that here. We go skinny. Fat would also likes them clause. Today's i quote per a league source. The chargers have told at least one other team at the price for gordon is the first round pick and a fifth round pick. Mike florio of pro football talk so bomani is a reasonable asking price for one melvin gore. If you think he's worth that then you might as well pay him like that. That's where i get confused by what it is that they want. If they think he has that kind of valuation then he would the biggest a guy that happened to keep who knows maybe here looking for a sucker. They're looking for the my dick out here. Who do to get their running back. I don't know but this is way too much to ask if you're actually trying to trade him. It tells me they're not actually trying to trade him. It's also way too much to ask if people have been listening. We've been following the melvin gordon story for months. It's now in all we hear is at the chargers. Keep giving him very hard nose when he asks please sir. Can i have some more because he is a running back. Who is like zeke elliott feeling feeling like time is wearing on him and so if you wanted to ask for a first rounder you had to pretend like you wanna this guy more than you have been for a very long time. It'd be fair to them. They did offer a deal that he did not take and i don't blame them for saying alright seizes here. We're not gonna do this. Either you show up or you don't but no nobody thinks yes. You're going to get a first and a fifth round pick for him although to be fair maybe they could have got him before. Bill o'brien gave up his first round. Pick who just couldn't wait to give somebody is first is round pick that is fair. It is fair that they did offer him about ten million dollars or so and melvin gordon ended up wanting more and now that offer is just off the table entirely and so yes come mom down people who want to undo the mistakes that we made because we kind of regretted although we're not even sure i get but what's it gonna take charge decide that they have been like what would be required how what they have to start. Is it possible they could start and they could be winning but the running back position is not producing because i think the one thing that's a little unfair in this is this is not an average running. Back is in just some regular dude. He has demonstrated himself to be special not necessarily like great hall of fame level but you're not just going to get another dude like that off the street and so i get this idea but we can just go find a running running back you can that doesn't mean you will and the issue and the complication is that when they did not have them for i believe the first four games of last season and and they had that running back by committee those dudes whose name escapes me right now but nonetheless four no in his absence that's the markets melvin board who has described like otherwise there was a fantastic fantasy football player but isn't as important to his team nasr quote. There will be upset. It takes aim amen guard jarrett hawker about taking on number one clemson this weekend. Let's watch dr been upset. Oh yes it does there will be an upset guaranteed victory. I'm pretty confident in my ability in our teams ability so giacobbe talking to talk he was so confident that he did not even reveal that he had been prediction until he was asked a follow up question to the first question and so the question that i have this dude who i did not know existed until just now how to this position like did the locker room empower you to do this because i hope i got to say that i was not familiar with him and i am going to assume that he's pretty good at his job because he had all those people around him with those like microphones right not every offensive line has all these people that are hanging on your words so okay. Maybe he's in a position to make these statements and to say these things and speak for the team. I'm just saying if i'm one of the people that like get the ball and it has to get hit. I wish that would that would have been my preference in this because if you're a and m. your best chance at winning his game is if clemson didn't take it as seriously as you do. This probably decreases the likelihood that clinton will not take this game series because remember last year in college station. This game was close. Kelly bryant was the starter in that game. The argument forgiving kelly bryant a ring gears. He really came through and helps. You guys win against take say is do. They play play a quarterback right. Now is a whole different level. Kelly brian was baby. Lozada's goes yes at texas. Am ranked number twelve right now. In the country i believe clemson his favored by seventeen and a half points. It's all of which should make this kind of a non story because clemson is of course a strive college football universe but to your point jimbo fisher came out and was like oh doc. You said that i gotta say this though and this is me speaking for myself personally. This is not for anybody else. Please eggy talk all the noise. You can in advance of this guy be as optimistic as you want right. You guys are ready to turn the corner. You got all the money in the world. You guys zillion dollar coach. It's it's all right there. This is your chance to take over. Go aggie make this happen. I wanna see good things happen for you. I don't wanna see good things happen. They actually did all the way up and come crashing down. That's what i prefer but you guys seem to be headed in the right direction. Is it landlocked oklahoma or that. You hate more the requires some clarification that takes too much time but if they give all lose all the gangs perfect that'll be great. Just go to break due spending the side though i've seen people who are good at this but that guy is i think the best of all at tells me there's a story about a dream deferred out. Why are you doing get your pen back later our number one hundred and ten million dollars because that is how much george guaranteed money jared goff will receive as part of a new four year one hundred thirty four million dollar contract extension the most guaranteed money in n._f._l. History so bomani rams regret giving that much don't know they won't regret it because he demonstrated if nothing else that he's on that good enough level at the very least right like he was awful as a rookie stand the very least he's been good enough. He has not been good in the playoffs right but they're going to have to find a quarterback is a measure of rolling the dice there aren't that many better out there that being said if sean mcveigh is the genius that he is advertised as being you gotta think why do you need to pay any quarterback thirty million dollars a piece supposed to be the quarterback whisperer as they say a._m. As he's in the dude's ear basically up padilla's time like he's basically like this is where you need to throw the ball. You should be able to find another dude who can do that right. The takeaway from from this story to me is if not the rams then who if the rams were not going to be the team that moves on from there now veteran quarterback. Who's who's gonna make a ton more money because you know they can. Just go get someone else on a young cost-controlled contract to play quarterback for them then who's going to do this. This is a team that understands the salary. Salary-cap understands all of the stuff about technology. They have the offensive guru that you described if they won't do this with jared goff. Can any team be expected to be even more risk. It just tells you what the scarcity is at that position. Really you go year after year looking at drafts you're get one. Maybe two out of a draft graf per year so let us take the twentieth dra- for example which is a pretty good draft a quarterback cam newton andy dalton and colin kaepernick came out of their draft. Those last two guys and points have been good good never had really been great. You can make the argument and then you've got cam newton. Y'all that's a pretty bumper classic quarterbacks think about the next year in the draft the two guys at the top at the top of it neither one of those not in the league the other one is now at career backup status you. Can you get russell wilson late like you get lucky when something like that happens but that's all that comes in per year in the draft you you can't afford to let a quarterback go if you've got one so this whole mcveigh thing right when jared goff not just struggles during the playoffs but he struggled in the floor games before the playoffs offs. Where do we give credit right like at what point is sean mcvay the genius and at what point is jared goff disappointment. How'd you disentangle. These guys in is interesting because i don't even think we need to get to a point of disentangling necessarily but we are still at a point. We golf where it's fair to ask. How good is he or how good is he not like this distil. I think a somewhat of a mystery but the timing works out well for because look the rams got to figure out. What's gonna do what their cat. It's better to get him in now than it is to do it. Later who knows the cowboys blowed. Oh boxer dak prescott then. What are you ultimately have to pay but i don't know if they have a quarterback. You can win a super bowl within. I'm curious as to whether or not they think they have a quarterback. Ubiquitous superbowl with those prices are just basically for quarterback. I think the fact that they got it done before you know pat. Mahomes paid is probably the reason why they can celebrate. Look at him and do you live. What got you do what you ask. How many extra pairs izzo twos lonzo ball says he kept on hand during the summer league to switch into each quarter because he was worried about dissolves ripping up. Let's watch lonzo explained on josh hearts podcast planning. They was not ready. There's really no one knows is but demo had a backpack. He had extra four pair of shoes to switch every quarter. Today was just rip on following allen was running everything on my. I'm not the planning of shoes i don't care. He's just switch every brand next every every game on the cool. Wow you have my shoes from those games. I did just slowed why <hes> why did you. Why did you wear them. Just because you guys are shooting. Why did i wear <hes> probably surprise here lonzo reveal. There's about his own shoes. I mean part of me is because lonzo has been such a good son. Can you expect someone to have been more accepting of all of the trash that he's been dealing with because when he got the big baller brand tattoo removed recently. It wasn't because his shoes were exploding. It's because he was literally relieve robbed and defrauded by his dad's friend this stuff that he dealt with some he ate so puerto rico surprised because i thought lonzo may have ridden this all the way through the great wall. I got exposed that it was a con- you might as well tell it all right. There was nothing at this point they need to have about love to hear a little bit more from his dead about this this whole situation but suddenly bought those damn shoes i don't know if you ever got him into male but this tells me they tried to these things and they tore apart or or the streets new now dog you don't want to play ball and does man they gonna fall apart on you telling me the other day no way in the world in them shoes and would not have put it on the internet second and things explode slowed down. We just heard was the sound of a lawsuit being ridden because you just said that go drives you can get paid. Cut me in enclosing. There is enough being wouldn't be willing to do with anyone tried to call me nothing any one this guy clearly in the beginning of this gas right. That's her. That's him wait a minute. You're telling thing me that there is another move for that gentleman right there to make other than falling onto the floor near that andy capp jimbo plenty plenty already in the handicapped spot cool. This is work got well. You can't do that at a cr taste birthday say look look beyond say this guy petition you waive. All rights iced everything once you try to somebody you try to somebody and then expected to be protected that is absurd. I would have done nothing. The guy dumped all and that's right. I got my life is geared around not getting. I've come to appreciate this in closing. I would like to now take you out to the philippines college. Basketball leased for a young man named richie rivera has just emerged as the national inspiration that my people have always he's dunk as burl tech athletic play one of spotlight that show bomani jones. This is how they do in the philippines college basketball league. Wow that absolutely exists using the things people could do with other tall. People aren't playing way pablo. Yes no excuses no excuses if he can do that. You have no excuses. I was going to say i didn't know we could we could do it. No the guy gave him the oops kinda look we can do that explains why you insist upon overrating jeremy lin so how dare yada questionable coming up next.

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It's Clemson week

Silver & Black Pride

09:30 min | 6 months ago

It's Clemson week

"Hello everybody this is Bill Williamson. This is over and Black. Pride. How are you? This is our weekly podcast. Do Weekly podcast here in the season. Happy CINCO DE everybody. Kinda you a theme. This week is GonNa be Clemson Week. Why clemson come on you know? Why clemson five clemson players in the last two drafts? It's almost ten percent of the Raiders. Dra- roster coming from one school in back to back years. It's pretty amazing. I got a lot of CL- glimpse in coverage this week. I talked to drew Snyder. Vespas nations shake in the south when he was going to be honest show but he had some technical difficulties so he couldn't make it but we had a good talk. And you know they're expecting these. Clemson guys become raiders now and when when these draft picks are happening. Yeah Ten Amuse Raider John Simpson Raider. 'cause fit. What the raiders are looking for big performers at huge programs and high character. Guys all five of these clean feral first round pick last year number four Trayvon Molin second round pick last year. Cornerback in probably start this year. Slot Receiver Hunter Renfrew. Who really came on the last year? All of those college performers and big programs who are just like Muse. And Mr John Samson you know through gave me some interesting inside and all these guys. Most the most of those five guys weren't the greatest the biggest recruits to Clemson. And you know this is Clemson. This is top of the cream of the crop so they came in with Western expectations other players. And they all rose to the top of that program. Johnson is the exception. He was all American Charleston South Carolina. But you know we all know. Hundred was walk on end up being an iconic player. In that school's History Clinton Ferro had a injury in high. School wasn't a huge recruit came in and became a four year player. Didn't play much redshirt freshman. Mona so-so tanner amusement. There's a baseball football player. He's a better baseball recruit from glimpsing. So these guys were all self made guys guys at Mike Mayock once guys Adampur. Sweeney says hey this is the type of guy that made this program what it is. That's what they want these guys to be raised. They WANNA take the raiders to the next level with these type of guys. Feral beasts superstar. I have my doubts. I think he will improve. I don't know he'll be a great pass rusher but I would probably be a solid d and maybe never a pro bowler but a solid guy. Good in the locker room But you know you want more of them at more from the number four. Pick of course but we'll see he's never going to be giving them a lot of problems and he can't improve. I think it'll be a solid quarterback him and Damon are net. Could really grow into a nice pair a cornerbacks and then you have A Meek Robertson Jonathan Abram bracket this could be a really a defensive secondary that can grow together Hunter Win. Renfro had thirty five catches in his last seven games last year. That's a lot. I can see this guy having hundred catches out of the slot within two years. Why can't he go from forty nine to eighty this year? I know win bone is GonNa take some of his reps from the slot but there's still plenty of unity for Renfro in this offense and then Tara muses probably going to be a special teams come stuff. What the specialties. Were Daddy Pie. A special team guys first. And then let's see if you can play linebacker. He played safety linebacker in the for the Clemson Tigers. Right now the rarest thing he's going to be more linebacker but he's special teams guy. He probably be a special teams ace. Before we know it John Simpson is a guy who will probably vied to be a starter and your second year. So yeah I talk to drew. Got Really good stuff from him. I said this is Clemson Week. I talked to woody mccorvey. A huge part of the CLEMSON program a huge part. He basically runs the show. He's dabbled Sweeney's right hand man. He's top liaison to the NFL from the program. And I had a nice chat with him today and I have a story on silver and black pride all the players and the connections. How they've got to know the raiders people. Mike may make Mike mayock spent a day with with Dabo Sweeney in the club last year. During the Season Jon. Gruden was going to be the keynote speaker to the football clinic this year but it was cut short because it was cancelled because of the corona violent virus which. I'm getting sick of. I'm sure you guys are to be safe out there. Everybody You know that. Crockett former Raider player Scout. He's big part of what the scouting at Clemson. So it's really fun connection. I had a lot of fun right in. The story is checking it out today tomorrow. I'm GONNA do something talking to Jim. Nagy from director the senior bowl on John Simpson and he thinks John Simpson's the best Griman Clemson has produced in the twenty years that he's St scouted that program. Wow Wow. He thinks he could start very soon then. We're going to a watch party tomorrow. Night of the Clemson Alabama two thousand eighteen championship game. Where Mike Mayock was there and scouting all these guys know. They got eight guys in that game. Eight guys the five Clemson guys that we've been talking about today. Josh Jacobs Henry Rugs and Lester cotton a backup undrafted free agent from Alabama Guard. He probably won't make the team so you you're GonNa have seven guys when that team that game on this roster this year so do a phone little watch party with that so it's just hey it's may after the season it's an unusual connection five players from one program so let's take advantage of it. It's Clemson Week here so I hope you enjoy that getting to know these guys a little bit more again. This off season just doing short cast news today. The raiders cut does Shawn Kaiser. Moving away from comes in here. People thought he was going to challenge. Derek Carr he wasn't GonNa Challenge Derek Carr. That wasn't going to happen so he's gone. Komi the LINEBACKER Nuradaim has gone. He's a undrafted free agent from last year. There are a lot of people thought had a chance to do some things. Well he never developed. That's okay it happens but they cut some some guys. They signed Samyong a ten year veteran tackle ten years. He's played sixty eight games. So he doesn't have a a for sure path to the roster. He played four games with the forty niners. He's a backup just veteran backup. We'll see if you can make the team. He signed some undrafted free agents against sign. Some more undrafted free agents just a busy day for the Raider nation again in in in kind of a slow time. You know. There's not a whole lot going on but we're going to do a show once a week and again. Just get to know you guys better. You know I've done raider podcast. Three different places I've been SP nation since February. And I love it. I'm very happy to be here. Hey Proud to be here and I don't want to be anywhere else. So that's her twit show just to get to know some of these clemson guys have some fun. This is Bill Williamson. This is silver and black pride. Take Care we'll talk to you next week. Be Safe have fun talk to you.

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