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How pissed you are Koita Cambridge sucks. You dick. Oh. I love you so much. It's getting to that holiday time. All I know is I like my Jesus as white M I Santa's black. Thank you. Finally, someone says the two things that are true. As you guys used to sing the holiday song when you were kids. Days. Yeah. Did you grow up in smack? Oh, the days and then my dad, and I would fight. I was I was raised atheist devout atheist. Wow. Very orthodox atheists. Wow. Sure. Sure. So we had to do carols go door to door and just go. Good. Scary. We're loan. Good morning. Good morning. I was the background vocalist. Always says good morning. You have been my hype, man. Thank you day. Keep showing up today. I'm not an extreme Heitmann those just fine. Mild hype, man. Yeah. Good. Keep going keep going in one day. You'll get there almost finished. Like you like you find everybody. Thank you so much. All right going into that. That Sampson yet. Obviously, I'm Dave Ross. And you're listening to suicide buddies. Thank you for being our pupils. Yeah. It's a comedy mental health podcast where we talk about depression suicide, but we're to comics, you know, just trying to catch up and have a good time. Yeah. Every bit light while we're talking about darkness. Other work. Other tech lines written by execs yet it well, maybe you should explain it. Again, doesn't make sense. Follow us at buddies pod on Twitter and join our Facebook group, Facebook dot com slash groups slash suicide buddies. You know, we haven't said in a while. I tunes, you know. It's the holidays if you'd like to give a gift to your friends Hampton, and Dave, right? A nice review of the show on I tunes the holidays try to lower those random reviews, the we have we don't have many. But every now, and then there's one that hates me or Hampton. It's never both. I've tried to describe it to people. I'm like, you know, I feel more confident that either people love it or they hate it so much that need have to go out of their way to be like once dark day fucking can eat a gun. I hope these suicide guys kill themselves. They seem said they will. Well, guess what you're going to get your wish assholes? Oh, no your Christmas. Wish do. Oh. Yeah. Oh, yeah. By the way. By the way. I I wanted to say real quick air style. And I were talking about before recorded there is this thing that people say around the holidays that suicides increase over the holidays that is not true actually during November December two of the months with the lowest suicide rates of the year. But I killed myself. I know that's fucking. Well, I hear that belief. You're not everyone. That's interesting. You do hear that all the time. Totally. It's so weird myth. Yeah. So I just wanted to say that if you kill yourself in November. You're weird. You know what? You're fucking weird, man. Mr. And MRs Johnson wanna sit down your son's, we found your son's body and turns out he's weird. Forget. That's how I talk. When my kids are dead zone. Was Musudan took must soon. Tim how we didn't have. I'm that Scottish man's wife. Okay. She's. Yeah. Yeah. The cools down the cool. My kids lakes. Oh, my. Elite and didn't know that the one of the lead singers proclaim that a dead, son. When I wake up. My son's going to be dead. Next to you. Oh my God. Well, you know, I love that. Like a follow up on this say what I would like a follow up on this study analysis. When is the time of the year? That's the most popular to kill yourself. Oh, man because I want to know win to put my tree. Yup. For my tree boy angel up three. Oh my God. It's the later winter months. Oh interest. Oh, February book black history month, of course, even fucking Mark. Even dude even Mark even Haywood, we're even March even from Downey, California. Well, you're welcome. It is it is like, you know, maybe I'm buying into the weird stereotypes. We'll it is cold. Year. I mean, there has to be some validity to that. Like people like Seattle does have a high suicide rate, and it's raining cold and overcast a lot. Oh, yeah. You need. There's literally thing called seasonal affective disorder where your depression spikes in the winter months of it's tied to getting less sun. And like everyone in Seattle has to listen to Frazier Burr. Listen, that's true. They do listen to Frazier. Show. You listen to. TV show. You'll listen to. You're weird. I am weird. Hampton you. Leave sucks everywhere. Dude, socks inside socks outside. It's indicative of a larger problem. Meet. Can I tell you? I'm a fuck up like I really make less. Good excuses as I get older go put my cat in the trash last night. I was like no dinner not put her in the trash got ELS confused. Those two. Sons in the trash. No. But not to cut you off. Oh, man. I wasn't gonna say anything important at all. I I've just been listening to a lot of pet. Shop boys recently. That's all I was gonna say. Oh, really? Always on my mind in that song. Gus so good. They're like, I think they're gay. I believe so. Oh gay. I don't give. It's like a gay euro pop. But it might just be Europe up. You know what I mean? Maybe europe. No. But I think so something I feel like I have an understanding of what Europap it's just saying always on my mind, but I have a terrible voice because of smoking cigarettes for two decades, maybe another is craft workout as Europap. Oh, oh, no, no. They're like an eight just like an eighties bands eighties. Electronic pop music. I feel embarrassed. I have not heard them manning sticks out of my head that I've ever really heard from them. Do do you wanna hear some in legally? Can we legally blonde play that? I think if you play it blond off, you know, what it is legally blonde to play it. If I talk about legally blonde while you play, but I'll be very quiet. So we can get away with the audio. So. Senator I love this whole. And it's like basically here boyfriend breaks up whether she's like. Go easy. Anyone can do it. And I guess she just goes to law school. It's really not that hard for her. I mean, really the the movie has very like obstacle is found very keep going. This sounds like actually background music that you run. Movie sounds like what you hear no getting her life together. Okay. Here we go. It sounds like if a haircut could sing. Yes. And that's what am I favor. John music, though, cut boy cut. All right, go you have no. If you thought. Metro. It's always that. Oh, Hampton love music me to do. You just need to record an album, especially you need to record haircut. Boy was like it'd be fun to make a Christmas album next Christmas, you should. No. Man up forty would it be if you came up with a Christmas album. April. You know, it is nuts. April is Christmas in April. And it's a wonderful life the movie, it's a wonderful life. Yeah. I watch it every year on Christmas. I do. I do. Things. I do. And I think we've maybe talked about this once or twice, but it's one of I love that movie. And it was released in July wasn't really. Yeah. It wasn't a Christmas release that I'd gotten thrown away. And then they released it in July. And then basically it costs nothing to play. So every network would play it on Christmas. When it was like, no one's watching TV. They just would play. It's a wonderful life all the time. And that's how it got like no way known as a gigantic movie in the culture. You know? That's crazy. It's cheap. That's so funny. Yeah, it's fine. It came out in July came out on July man, that's like Christmas. Rely. I love this story because it is so oddly pathological, it's like my dad we were watching. It's a wonderful life on Christmas assume these seen this movie at least twenty times in his life. He's an old, man. He's seen this. And then at the end of the movie when all of his friends are bringing George Bailey money saving his life giving money can't dad goes. So what happened they find the money that lost? No. Entire point in them. Is that is friends? We're there for him. And it's a wonderful life. My god. They all got lucky at the end as I call good. The money. Wow. Man. I don't think I've ever until now felt comfortable saying this, but your dad's of pieces shit. Hey, we're going to have a fistfight after that only allow that. If you call every member of my family of pieces, your mom's of pieces, man, all your brothers pieces shit and seven brothers for seven dollars girlfriends appeases shit. Only I get to allow you to call my gopher and a piece of shit. Okay. Next time. I'll wait. I I have never I've seen. It's wonderful life a bunch of times. But I've never seen a Christmas story, and I've never seen miracle on thirty fourth street, which like Christmas is pretty decent. I've heard it's funny still pretty much holds up. There's another weird thing on thirty four the garbage is just like who cares? Yeah. Totally any movie which is like, ladies and gentlemen of the jury I bring to the witness stand Santa Claus a legal drama about Santa Claus. They should've fucking gone way overboard, like they're suing San and like he's gonna get financially ruined by agree that I could not agree. More hampton. Have you seen the Santa Claus movie set to claw, not the Santa Claus, the Santa Claus movie with like, John Lithgow? Have you seen this movie? No, it's man for some reason. My parents had VHS of it when I was a kid. It was I've seen it so many times. It's in hindsight dumb as fuck, but I loved it and still love it. I've seen like twenty John Lithgow has not actually made a lot of good things, and John Lithgow is the villain in this movie in the Santa Claus movie. Just asking the the name Santa Claus. Okay. CLA US the rights. Yeah. Yeah. Totally. No, it's it's like the real true history story of Santa Claus. Yeah. Yeah. Like, Saint Saint Nicholas. I was joking. There's like flying reindeer and shit. It's definitely fake. And the reindeer alive because the magic candy canes, and John Lithgow is the owner of a multinational corporation trying to steal the magic candy canes. So he can market them and become even more of a millionaire obvious he won as lightly more money. Yeah. Like all billionaires like the villain in ironman one. He just wants a little bit more everything ironman one with you. Fuck this believe it was just called iron, man. Oh, it was because they didn't know too was coming yet. I never know when a twos. Come and dude. Doug about them. I like to rate women, no. I. I love movies. Clear up real quick. To clear up. David. I think we should just move on a couple things that was obviously a joke. Also said rate like ratings. Oh, I know what my bad Aristotle looked at me. And and that's what you thought. I did I wouldn't ever make that joke. Wind the audio and see what kind of person day. You said the number two rates ratings. I'm sorry. I ever said anything that sounded like that. All right. So sorry. I apologize. Always. That's okay. Man. Everything I do comedy or not. I don't give a I'm so sorry. Yeah. Same with me. Man. Everything. I do I do for you. And that goes back to the type of music, I've listened to you know, what I've been listening to faron young very young, man. The guy we're going to talk about each just old country. Yeah. I was listening to him this week. He's great. I thought you'd maybe be interested. Yeah. It's actually really good. He had. Yeah. Ease it's so country, but it's like old enough that it's not over produced. But also, the subject matter is. Bard my problem with popular country is just like God in my jet, or whatever. Listen to half a song. Georgia my girlfriend plays it constantly like she loves top forty country should go to big skirt. Get four totally and its like named checking like companies things you wanna buy things you have an it's usually something about a woman's as you know, like, oh, yeah. Well, it's also it's about the country. Some of them have them are like love songs that are like respectful of women and the other half are very disrespectful of women. I respect your tonight. But only. You complete me. And that's why I'm on kill you. What? Yeah. It's it's so crazy misogynistic weird like lyrics, right? There are some like I liked Casey musk grabs. She's a new singer who's actually good. And she has like okay song. There are also a bunch of songs that aren't love songs that are just like about country shit random shit, and then some of them even further about they try to hide the fact that they're rich Sept every now and then it comes out. It's just like come on down to five thousand acre ranch. We're just black TV's million. Yeah. I know it's got five hundred thousand dollars buried at my five hundred acre ranch and the dumb obvious thing that everyone mentions is that basically hip, hop and country music became the same thing. Like all the top four both have become completely materialistic, and like misogynistic, and like super super simplistic. I don't know though, man. I think hip hop is really pulling out of that lately. Like pip up is good as theirs now, and there's also really good country. Like, really, yeah. Like, I'm saying, Casey Musk's. There's a lot of this the one person out, but like there's there's also like tons of outlaw country, and like people who are more like western influence, but is that stuff top forty. I don't think. No, you maybe make a good point. I dip up like Kendrick Lamar is not just like fucking. Jay z is. But it's a really interesting way, it might have to do with just the amount of time genre has existed the country's been around since the nineteen thirties up or whatever. Yeah. Hip been around since seventy. Yeah. Early late seventies early eighties is when hip hop beginning. So I don't know there's just more time to like in a way like say, they're the top forty and country is awful. But maybe the fact that like Johnny cash is just this known institution. He's Antic thing. Yeah. Still played on the radio and stuff. It may be just has a I don't know. You're right, though, there is there is no like I Lamar equivalent right now. We're in particular in particular heyday of hip hop, and are in be where it's just like we've somehow got into a place where the really popular shit, not all of it some of it. I mean, some of it is still just all about fucking asses misogyny and money, and I still don't really like that shit. But like the stuff that's really huge, Drake, and Kendrick and Jay z is fucking really interesting. Donald Glover and chance the rapper is fucking huge name one more. Run the jewels. Do. You know, what's crazy is how oddly Killa Mike is like, oddly, pro NRA and like oddly Republican in some ways. Yes, pretty interesting. I wonder sometimes I wonder listening to his music like I think this guy might actually think the solution to our problems is to kill everyone. He disagrees with Mike. How could you? What are the things that? I love about their music is how often they say they just want to kill a lot of people. But lately, I've been like fuck I think maybe they actually want to kill a lot of people. Yeah. They also have lyrics are like sometimes just wake up on it. It's like that's pretty okay. Yeah. No. They're really great, man. They are good. Good beats good Lear Motors. Strata hurt us. We cars him and all the children. But this is gonna be fun. We're gonna talk about country. We're going to talk about outlaw country. And we're gonna talk about how this is easily one of the most depressed businesses looked into. Yeah. Cool. All right. We'll be right back after this advertisement that we endorse fully fully. I raised her read the coup Ray. And we all know. There's just not enough goes. Liberal country. I do bothers me. Oh, yeah. Me too. Why can't just thinking about raising your Muslim lesbian daughter? Proud of her book bid about this one song. There's a song, and I fucked I need to look it up because it's like it literally goes like. You know? Well, I guess I'll just do the bit. Fuck it. We're both. Bit right. It's just the song as like, you know, that down on the corner. You see every day, and you never give him any money because you know, you're Republican. And then the chorus goes would if he's an. What if he's an angel, dude? It's always I heard it in the laundromat, and I lost my fucking mind. What if he's just a fucking person, I need to come to some sort of metaphysical abstract reason to give that home was bid a my fucking money. When I love those that may maybe the more I thought about it. The more thought like maybe the guy wrote that song is just an liberal infiltrator. He's like how do I get these people to do what I want them to do. Because one of the the versus do is like, you know, that ball kid, you see on TV always asking you for money, and you never fuck into it. Because you don't care. Who? He has cancer. I don't know. I don't know why you're doing this the families confused. We're all confused everyone's upset crying. Yeah. I like I like the liberal infiltrator. Who's you know that caravan about to cross our border? You gotta give angels a house if you're nutsy, yo poodle booting. You're right. Yeah. That's the thing is like nationalism really swept into country. If you look at its earliest roots for one it's early est roots are guys like that was a segue. Yeah. Holy shit. Oh, really, good segue. Let's let's find out. Let's keep going. I just really like felt touched by how perfect segue. Nobody segue. I'm stealing your bit. I know I'm stealing yours. Well, like early country is nineteen thirties. Like guys living on train tracks and like picking a banjo there be with graph graph opportunity bringing like also racist. Yeah. Totally right. Like the biggest guy from back. Then was David Allen co. Oh, he somehow stole that cricket grasshopper song from a black guy and killed his family to songs that say the N word a lot like seriously, don't go, dude. David Allen co is someone who gets really lauded in history in country music, but his old music is fucked. It is his shit definitely comes up with the guy about Farren young like his son or grandson is the guy who hosts that podcast cocaine and rhinestones about country music history. Which by the way is an amazing podcast. Oh, wow. Yeah. Yeah. No. There's a couple of things I've seen recently. I think tales from the road that show that came on prime or whatever recently it was really good that mentions like one or two characters who might be in. This guy's life story happens to go there. So at the co play movie. So like music with country. I don't know like it's so funny that it like it just sucked up first. And then it was really depressing. If you really look at like, I would say really begins with Hank Williams, and he's modern contemporary country. Onward, you know, and it's like it's just songs about drinking. Yeah. Women have left you. You are fuck up everything sucks. You're broke a lot of it's about being alone. Like, there's a lot of songs I love that country where it's just literally just like driving up the ninety nine and that's it. I mean. Yeah. It's to me. What was funny is like, you know, I'm looking over like, Hank Williams. I was looking more. So at the end of my research for this one. And I was like, wow, his life is fucked up, and I'm like. Was like. Drake itself to death. It's so funny because the same thing happened to Bob Marley who like the poorest was fucked up. Life isn't his kids just like the most privileged pieces should ever. Anyway, we can talk about that another time. Sorry Ziggy and also like it really wasn't very like nationalistic country. Like, I believe I mean, this is more folk, but you know, what he Guthrie I think that's his name doing the land is your land. This is my land. It's a political song and doing all these songs like Johnny cash would have there's so many like outlaw country stars who have songs are like fuck are Rhys or like law man's dick like dude complete. I hate cops hit the government. There's this like. You know story of you know, lore in country music that so you don't know if it's true or not. But the story is basically Kris Kristofferson later in life was at a at a country music festival in Kenny Chesney, who is like top of his game came up to him and Kenny Chesney is the king of that like frat boy Republican comedy and walked up and called Kris Kristofferson a draft dodger and shit, and Kris Kristofferson said you ever serve your country. You bitch. Did he? That he's amazing. Yeah. He had a song. I mean, this is kind of what let me down to living fair in young was like I was looking. I was just listening to some Kris Kristofferson. Can't remember the name of the song? But it's like the name of the song is so long anti-government. It's like the laws of this country were meant before the people not for the government and like that. Hey, Mr. law man's suck mountain. You're cop. Eat Ma gun. I mean, yeah, Willie Nelson is insanely liberal Willie Nelson Stanley liberal. Yeah. A lot of them. And so fair and young didn't actually really he he's definitely likes just to the side about law country. But he kind of came in more in that country was kind of crooning it was like post Sinatra like, hey, microphones are amazing. Yeah. Let's just have a guy, you know, belting out kind of a long tune. But it's all about depression angst and all these still dark themes but off go off. Willie Nelson was doing was it's funny. He. I know what I'm doing for the rest of the episode. Era tasting Hampton by singing, everything he says. Do that came up in this in this era of like, you know, Willie Nelson was pretty straight laced for a long time. And then yeah, songwriters weren't really writing their own stuff. Like, this really is like country music starting to feel the results of the Beatles and like Bob Dylan sting these things that are changing how music is either made. Yeah, you know, and like now, suddenly like they're like we can write her own songs, and then we'll get more money. Right. You know, so like became and then all they're talking about is there failed marriages in their drinking problem. Yeah. Cocaine every fucking country music singer at a song about cocaine. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, they were all pill poppers life. Yeah. It's really fascinating. To me the way the country music has turned into what it is. Now. It's a shadow of what it was. Yeah. They don't sing about anything. They just sing about like still talking about the partying. But none of the downsides of the party. And also the like the country stereotypes like I don't know how many songs ever heard about how just won't me country, girl, like farmers only dot com because we couldn't call it whites only dot com. Totally. By the way to go to farmers only dot com. You will be blown away to see that. Farmers are pretty bad at web designing. Somebody visuals of like either like the arrow on the like website looks like a pitchfork. I have to take her bale of hay and put it into. I like it. Okay. Oh, man. That's so funny. Ever seen that video of a monkey Pene Izzo mouth, the fuck and phonies thing I ever seen him. I got him laugh. I love your bail of AM put it in the folder like, man. I think this is going to be the first time I ever a girl seven directors. Well, what did you say rate ratings? Dave strikes again. Dave to the Roth. Dan this haircut. Could fuck a play. This is what I'm talking about country both country, dude, cornfields scarecrows girls with big ass. Teddy's cornfield grows and girls as duty and moonshine and crying and pushing down your feelings. Let me rattle off some of his hits faron young. Because it's I mean now knowing that he killed himself it, I don't know that he wrote fuck the police. Yeah. That was a cover. Also wrote dammit by blink any two and Adam sung. It's like everyone songs as I'm looking to Hank Williams and everyone else it's like all their titles of their tracks or sad shit. But his knowing that killed feels where live fast love hard, die young. That's my favorite song. His that. I found really. Yeah. That's is. So crazy moves fast. It's like it's almost like not punk rock. But you would just say the tempo is like pretty fast it's still at regular like country western doomed to to to. But it's like, yeah. Being a bass player during that time. Yeah. Making fuck and Bank. You might see yourself boots boots boots doomed dooms dunes who watched my lead singer beat a girl to have to death us. Anyway, back on the road. No shit cocaine. Appreciate cops dead onto the next town. Don't dunes. Don't also your it's funny too. Because your job is just boomed and your fucking instrument is huge. You gotta make all the boot you like they made those mother fuckers carry around. The biggest violin anyone has ever seen. That would be true bigger violin? Every time. It was like this violence. Fuck. Anyway, anyway, drugs in alone. Farren young also some hits it's four in the morning, which is missing girl at four in the morning. Wow. Doty an alcoholic song. And his biggest hit was called. Hello walls. Dude. I listened to that song that song is knitting. It's a cover. It's a it's a Willie Nelson song really Willie Nelson wrote it for him. It's such an achingly. Sad song. Yeah. He's like singing to the walls apologizing to them that his girlfriend isn't there anymore, and they're alone. Don't worry walls. I'll keep you company. It's like damn. Yeah. I also boring. I will add the metaphor is not lost on me. But it also also stopped being interesting two seconds in because the second versus he goes Hilo window like, relax. Hello xbox. Totally do. Me. I mean, prostate massager. I liked it. Because there's this one song by George Jones, which I've fallen in love with he's another like alcoholic country singer who came out of the crooning era, and he really worked very closely with faron young and one of his songs is called the grand tour. Okay. And it's just like come on in Tokyo, Luke, if you'd like to take a gray and tour of the place where the girl left me and broke my heart Oli, that's where she said, she loved me. And it's like Jesus This beautiful song. But it's like it's so fucking insane. That every every song was just like. Yeah. Alcoholism and fucked up and like, none of these singers will ever address alcoholism. Yeah. And that completely happened with faron young like he basically succumb to alcoholism over time. But it's it's this thing of just no one could even address it. It's more like it's imply. Wide like, yeah. I'm a country music singer. Of course, I'm doing quite lutes and drinking time. Yeah. What's your problem? Just let me do me. Yeah. Well, let me be me. He it's also like, yeah. If like every song, you're seeing is about your said about this girl. I've been idea, man. Get over it. You said that said ninety eight percent of all the bands on warped tour. Yeah. You also. That to me most of the time. Becoming an adult sucks. Fucking house. What though I'm finally over it? I wish I could just write really long bad poetry about girls who justifiably did not want to date me anymore. Dude. Not only can you. Wait. But you dude, we should write some poetry together about we'll just pick a girl Hillary Clinton killary, dude. It'll be called nut her emails. Porn, parody used to file podcast just devolved into be making puns. I'm not like a puns guy. But now, I am, you know, get over it, Nintendo funding and. Oh. All right. Let's get a little back story on fair. And he seems like overall probably a pretty nice guy. Very gregarious. Nice guy dot com. Nice kinda fucked up shit towards the end of his life. But he was born in Shreveport, Louisiana. Say one day before Johnny cash really little bit aside history. Wow. Yeah. John Adams and Thomas Jefferson team drunk. And he basically was like pretty much off to the races at a young age. He just knew he could sing play guitar. So he put stuff out there. Trying to get picked up by this thing called the Louisiana hayride which was like a radio show, which actually did probably the most like country listenership, you know, at the time. It was like grand ole Opry was just forming. But this thing was actually bigger in that area. So in nineteen fifty two he was drafted by the United States army. Like, I didn't realize that after World War Two. They were still just drafting people. Well, that was the Korean war. Wasn't it? It might have been. Yeah. I know that like a bunch of country music singers all got drafted like Elvis is a prime example. But I mean, he kind of crosses genres, right and everything. But like so he gets drafted as his song comes out, and like he just gets put on like USO stuff and actually he travels around with Leonard nimoy doing USOC. Oh, really? So when he got drafted they just let him be a musician. Actually at the time. They took off the country music singer that they did have on the tour to put him on single was starting to blow up damn. Yeah. So he's discharged pretty quick share off of it. Like, they kind of like, okay? You're clearly like just in the US. Oh, and like, you know. You know, we've had our fun. Weird. So he went back to just Leonard nimoy. Do I looked at it? Leonard can juggle Dix. Just would talk about Korean warrant to say. This is highly logical. This shouldn't be war is a logical as they sucked dick. They loved it. Now, he would put on shows like he knew how to like, you know. Right scripts and get act trained actors like he was like the Star Trek hadn't happened yet. This was the beginning of his career weird. Totally. And it's funny because actually Leonard nimoy is like very multifaceted kindly on a lot of things you knows how to do a lot of things. Yeah. It's makes it killer lasagna. I'm fun when I just was okay, Aristotle roll it back. So when he went back home, you know, he actually just kind of got involved in the music industry. He was signed a capitol records, and he was there with them for like ten years. So it was kind of like all right? You're in the studio system. We're going to set you up a songwriters. Here's Willie Nelson's wrote this song you sing it. And it's going good from. It's definitely like his heyday. Okay. You know, like, he's young. He's getting in movies and TV appearances kind of the country music singer lifestyle was like your country music singer. I guess let's put you in a dumb, western right you and it's called like Shariff. You know, it's like, right? There's so many of these dumb movies that are all just like, oh, you and like half of the movie, you'll be singing for no reason. There's one movie that ROY orbison made where he's in a western which is his sterile. He made the movie. He's just the star. Okay. And it's like he is a creepy guy. He is he is not camera friendly really ROY Everson is hard to look at hard to listen to his voices. Great. So the movie I forget what it's called this ROY orbison movie. Someone should look it up. But it's like it's like predispo- he has a Qatari that has like a gun barrel. That comes out. Shoot people no way. And then he sings. Larry. It's like the goofiest. What's it called? I can't remember I didn't look that up recently. It's something I saw like God so many years ago. Wow. Con air. Yes. Faron young is in that same sort of system of. We'll just set you up with stuff for a long. You know? Like, sure. Yeah. Yeah. And it kind of turns out later that all of these stars in this system are getting so massively underpaid. And like, you know, they have to drink beer. They're like they're living on the edge of existence touring all the time. Right. You know? It's not very fun. If you're just once I oh, the movie air style. Thank you do the fastest guitar alive too. That's a great name green. Wow. Fuck in Michael bay movie to which I would claim that the fastest guitar live is early against me. Oh god. I watched the fast. I don't even jokes about that. I don't even wanna hear shit like that. I watched this movie that Qatar just like, ROY orbison, breezy and slow. Always does. Shit. Oh, so. Please leave it. What did the people that God faron young into country music was Hank Williams? Right. And like he snuck into go see one of his concerts at a high school performance. He broke in through the window to go watch, Hank Williams. All okay. It was a big deal to them. And so after he comes back from the army, right faring young is now in this country music scene in like, everyone knows each other. So Hank Williams is like doing a show and faron young goes with his girlfriend, Billie Jean and basically Hank Williams like is like I'm gonna take your girl. And then like, I don't know about that. And then Hank Williams just put a gun to his chest. And he's like I'm in love with her. You're to take her. Within a year. They got married real quick. And an Hank her and Hank took his girlfriend basically that night. And then they got married real quick. And then about a year later, Hank Williams was dead. Drinking himself to that. So yeah. Yeah. He was fuck up at the time, man. Yeah. I am no longer ready for some football. Could you watch them? All I think I'd rather just sit here and think could we maybe Knicks football. Just a noodle. Maybe like five. I promise it won't be too much. Oh, man. The man. I can't believe how bad that Hank Williams. Three is awesome. Yeah. I'm not sure. I haven't checked on a while. You know, he is. Yeah. It's like much popular. But it's it's it's not bad country music. Yeah. And Hank three I feel I can get is. He has some good stuff. But then he's real up is on about how he's the cool, Hank. Yeah. Yeah. He I mean, he plays like quote punk rock under the name ask Jack. And it's like, oh, yeah. You're so hard core. I don't know I roll my eyes at the same way. I do it rage. I don't like anyone also just calls themselves. Hank Williams junior. And then Hank Williams third. Call yourself like Hank Williams, the return. Yeah. Thank you revenge. A sequel this sequel man high on the sequel to my father. I think. Put it in the Hank Bank. And we did this is me giving a tour the Hank Williams. He said put it in the Hank Bank. Folks, we did. So Farren is like. Nothing. Absolutely nothing. Even eras. Donald shook is. Donald so nice. Air cells nine he's a nice use a good person. He's the one good person here. I fully agree. Thousand nine percent so fair in. Okay. So Hank is dead. Yeah. I guess I just trying to paint a picture that he's he's kinda slowly getting involved in this like outlaw country business of people. He's working with like fucked up individuals and shed like if Hank Williams is pointing a gun at your chest from there that he then starts working with a guy named Johnny paycheck who it's funny as shit because when he first comes on the scene wearing suits, and he's like, his name's Johnny paycheck. But then like his older career is like looks like a hippie. He's like from the gutters. Joni paycheck, and he he wrote the song or he did a cover that was the most famous. I was take this job and shove it. Okay. Sure. Co song, right, right? Yeah. So he did a cover that. Okay. The cover. Everyone knows this job and shoot. Hey, fucking law. And like, Johnny paycheck like at one point. There was some like argument, and you just pulled a gun and shot a guy in the head just like outside of a concert and went to jail for like seven years. Wow. Yeah. That's a really long time for murder. That's the most time you're allowed to do for murder. Seven girl years seven girl years. What does that mean? It's not like boy push up. Then I'm learning so much. No. I thought you're making the joke that it's like he I should've gone away for life killed somebody. Yeah. I actually just shot off a part of their skull. But didn't kill them or something fucked up. You know what? I mean. Like, geez, how we'll either. Yeah. No matter what he's fucked up guy. Arguably he's troubled the take this job and shove it guy shot in the head. No way his name. Johnny paycheck got a guy who killed himself in November. Johny page. Yeah. So he's you know, faron young worked with him. He had a band at one point that was called like the young deputies or at the deputies and like just because like one of his movie performances was called the young sheriff. And he just tried to like, oh, sure. This. I'm the sheriff air deputies. Yeah. Basically is in the name. Yeah. Exactly. So he just kind of have a normal country music career, which is almost kind of sad because it's like sporadic hits over the next two decades that would chart on like country music radio which wasn't even like the dominant radio at the time. And so as he's getting older like him in a lot of his contemporaries, or like, we feel they would just say this in interviews all the time. Like there's interviews with him on late night shows where it's like we just feel like we're being pushed out like no one wants to take care of us anymore. Like everyone wants to watch like pop whatever's happening now with country like right? And it's like, I think it's a little bit of sour grapes in a sense because he again, like kind of came from this crooner, you know, John rea-, whereas you could argue that Johnny cash Willie Nelson and Waylon Jennings like the real like outlaw country guys. They went further they kept going. Yeah. Because. They took a stand. They did stuff. They just kind of made it about like letting you know about them and everything and like. Taking away a little bit of that veneer. And I think he coulda done died like his life was easily as fucked up, but he just kinda stuck in that crooner George Jones kind of like, Erin. She left me. Yeah. And that's if that's all you're going to do that. It's going to get a little boring after three decades. Sure. It's like how many times this is your woman gonna leave? You. Maybe it's a problem. He got married after Billie Jean got taken away from him. He I think he was fine with it because he was married within a year right to his wife for the next thirty. So if you're with a girl and a guy is like, she's mine, and she's like, I agree. Probably date that person this Al Kahal like man, who's dying. Oh, okay. Okay. Great. Good. Good. Yeah. You're a wild card, and I'm not into it. Yeah. Over the next couple of decades, where it's really put in the work of trying to stay relevant and really feeling like the industry's kind of like shutting their backs on you and everything is with his wife, and he just starts drinking more and more and more like the lifestyle is like inescapable, you know, and. One point was right before they get divorced. Basically. He's at the point where he's just drunk all the time, and he takes a gun out. And he just waves it around and start shooting into the ceiling of kitchen when they fight. So. Yeah. Or if I definitely abused. Yeah. Terrifying environment. But like it was funny. Like he was asked about it in an interview. And he this paraphrase, he's just like they were like were you concerned, you would hurt anybody. And he's like, it's my house. Funny. He just couldn't understand. It's my house like I should be able to shoot into my walls. Understand. That's so weird. And if you kind of look at all of this outlaw country shit, that's happening. I mean, we talked about Johnny cash trying to kill himself people were fucked up and shooting guns. Yeah. All the time. I think he was like no it was my house. Right. I was at my neighbor Bill. You're not. You're just listening. I shot very near to my wife in house. It wasn't your wife. Yeah. Totally I even owned the bullets. Check check. No. Sign every bullet. Every boo. And kind of also around this time. This is really stupid story that Dame rated his nineteenth nineteen seventy-two. He's so fucking mad at the industry and just everything I think is marriage is still crumbling at that point alcoholism. Apparently, he gets arrested because out of concert. He picks up a six year old girl and starts spanking or in front of everybody because she spat on him. Wow. No. We should call him, fair and balanced. The Fox News. Good. God be your kids yoga. So funny. Hampton is Reverend seeing a very real thing in stand up, which is the one out of every ten comedians, so many comedians think you have to hit your fucking kid edgy. Kid, edges, take you can have man, easy applause. I think these kids got it too easy, yet totally. Route here. I'm feeding 'em and their mouth off. So I punched him in their face. Dude. Here's how much so he gets arrested for spanking this girl, he had to peer before the Justice of the peace and was fined twenty four dollars, plus eleven dollars in court costs. Well, that is thirty five dollars that is so for spanking a child man, I think maybe inflation is real. That's almost nothing. That's crazy. So fuck that's so insane. So you can kind of tell he was deteriorating. But here's the thing though. Did she spit on him? I'm just saying actually if we look at the footage does look like that season of flavor of love where pumpkin spat on New York. Do you? Remember that moment. I had no clue. What the fuck? You're talking about is big news. That sentence really made me laugh. Remember win on in spent on New York. Love dude, you're just saying random nouns. Well, that's what that's Flavia member. Wind coffee table. Flavor flav how did dating show and then he the first episode? He names every girl as they walk in the door. And at one point he just looks at this girl, and he's like pumpkin what other guys like you from New York could call you New York. So New York and pumpkin hate each other. There's been dyers. Here's what pumpkin and New York. Get down to the final four. And then pumpkin spits on New York in this reality show in the early two thousands. And I'm just going to say it felt racist. If felt like we were watching a hate crime or something really spinning on someone is such a fucking hate you. Yeah. Like, it's just it's it's hey, it's just I don't know the only. Yeah. The only people I've ever spit on my kids. Tonight to you can night sweet dreams. Yeah. Or you'll fucking. Yeah. Fall asleep. Fucking trash can. What I would say to them. And that's yeah. When I had my kids they came out of my wife's pussy, and I was like, you're from New York. So your name. You're a little fucking can't. So I'm going you trash can you fucking trash can to dredge candidate New York. Eighty other. Why don't I wanna date? Trash trash can you've made it to the final. And I gave you the ceremonial used condom approval. We've moved on from roses. So yeah, I guess as he got older he left aside note that I couldn't find, but he just talks about. His health had been declining. He had emphysema and he had prostate surgery like earlier in the year. So it's health was just awful. Yeah. I imagine. It's like feeling like you have the flu all the time urge just like down in energy. No energy. You know? Yeah. You're in alcoholics your wife, his wife had left him at that point yet. He had kids. I hope they're not. Soom? They're they're adults now. Yeah, they're not listing. Definitely. Yeah. And now after he died. Two thousand I think or two thousand one he get he got put in the country music hall of fame. Really? Yeah. How did he kill himself shot in the head? Yeah. The gun shit. Yeah. Right. That's the thing. I was talking about earlier. It's so funny. It's like so country music has always been like Republican. But that didn't always mean like, I support the government or what I write like it. You look at all of the stories of these guys are like so they were playing with their gun. Yeah. And they like gun was there. And that's why they're getting in these fucking, skirmishes, and shed. But at the same point, they're kind of like, well, it's my right to own a gun because you gotta shoot fucking government. Yeah. Totally. That's what people claim. Yeah. I don't want to get into that. Go on a ranch gone on before. But yeah, I mean. Yeah. Those guys were basically libertarians, right? They were just like, yeah. I just. Just in the sense that they were like fuck anyone who ever says anything to me at all? So plus like, especially country music singers. Maybe their anger was slightly misplaced that like like is the God damn IRS. It was like a big deal. It was like hippy. It's your record label. Right that sucks. Yeah. That's what happened with faron. Young is like he was like, well, we never really made any money. And there's this one clip of him where it's it's later on in his career, and it's like a late night. Interview. And it's kinda sad. He's just like hire me, I need work. It's getting laughs. He's no seriously. We we all we all need to work. That's insane. Yeah. It felt like the industry kinda like backed off of them in a sense. Like, they set up this whole system of like, we're gonna put you on the grand ole Opry and ac- showcase shows. And like you just go out there and kill for this audience set up for you. Whereas I think like people like Willie Nelson Johnny cash, maybe unbeknownst themselves or Waylon Jennings. They didn't realize they recreating I die hard fan base. That felt something like a connection their music. It wasn't just this music sad. And it's good. This is like, you know, Johnny cash this recording albums imprisons. Right. Getting letters from prisoners, you know, and I think it's just a different way of approaching you know, I guess they went for the. Liberal class of country or whatever the interesting, I'm curious how like. Maybe I just missed it somehow. But like the circumstances surrounding his suicide we're there. No more details about I mean, you just shot himself at his home alone. Okay. Yeah. I think like two days later. Okay. Because. Right away, which is fucking awful yourself in the head and just like it up. Him. Yeah. They were found by band member. Who's checking in and. Yeah, it's just been more like a slow state of decline, and he was like, I think it was the backpack of emphysema diagnosis and prostate surgery, which is really fucking intense. I sure that's like the just doing surgery on your anus. Yeah. Removing sections and like you can't eat the same food. And it's it's not good. You know, right. When how long ago had is wife left him on that half? When that happened because of that act, but I think it was maybe like ten years before if you can't breathe and use your butt. Well, you never stopped drinking. That's the thing is like, you know. She left him clearly because of like the dangerous alcoholism. And then he just was like get to shoot my house fucking house. Right. You buy a house to house shooting off his gun after his wife left. No during their fight. Okay. Yeah. Well, yeah. No. I can't imagine why someone would leave him. No idea. Anyone would do that? It's weird. I mean, like, I think he was despite a little bit about the career, but he'd also was a really smart guy and had like diversified and bought a lot of businesses. He created this country music magazine called music city news, which he had like sold for a couple million. Like he was interested in creating businesses that helped with country, and he's always been there was one weird side thing. I never mentioned. But apparently Kris Kristofferson like used to be his like helper. Really like would. Yeah. Like help them run errands and shit when he was like a kid, dammit, man. Yeah. How many of Kris Kristofferson close friends heal themselves? Him. Yeah. Yeah. Dude. This is why we do this podcast, man. Chris Christoph myself. Creuse Christoph my back. Remember? He's in blade. I just watched blade fucking hell. Yeah. It's one of the best movies ever made. Yeah. Did you know this that movie is about vampires? No. Yeah. And it's about a blade. No. Don't know. It's about no Hampton. No, pretty sure you're wrong air cells giving me the confirm. Stand blade. He's a day Walker. He lives in both worlds. You don't understand? Dave. He's a he lives in both worlds. Jay walker. We're in vampires out there in any way where I got a weird foot. Wars coming which are you going to be on? I'm gonna shoot you in the neck with their garlic. If were part of the movie, it's like, just say, garlic. What are you doing? Most soon news vampire. Lives in two or. Yodel? I would prefer not to. Oh, okay. Prefer not to do that next podcast is going to be only Hampton yodeling. We'll do know history. As we've said we want. We. It's reaction has told us you guys hate this. Man. Yeah. We got so many things you for emailing us, by the way, it was funny. It was like so unanimous keep doing history one person on Twitter. It was like fuck the history and then. And then that guy was Benjamin Franklin. It was Benjamin Franklin. Yeah history. Yeah. It good to me. Do. Those are great episode. Thanks, man. Thanks, man. Yeah. We have a patriot episode that hits the shelves this week to. Yeah. And guys check it out. We're gonna be talking about thanksgiving. If you haven't checked it out yet. We put out two bonus episodes on patriotic every month and also some other random bonus content. It's patriot dot com slash suicide buddies. We hope to see their to not heavy thanksgiving next week and glad you're alive. Take care. Bye. Bye. Thanks. You're listening to the show. Just a reminder. We joke around on this show a lot because we thought about suicide a lot. So we're, but if you are right now thinking about suicide having any suicidal thoughts all your coming. Those can't. Fashion. The national suicide prevention lifeline is always there. One eight hundred two seven three talk call that number twenty four hours a day seven days a week. They will talk through it and help you know, that you are loved on this earth. Don't. Thanks again to listen to show.