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"mike douglas" Discussed on Milk Crates and Turntables. A Music Discussion Podcast
"Well, you do that other show. That other show. And I also, I do, for religious reasons and for money, I play the church on Sunday. And I have everything fixed this week. I have the comments is fixed. And we're on the right feed. We're on the right feed. Yep, yep. YouTube is up there. I can get all these messages saying, I can't find it. And I'm broadcasting at 1080p. I found that. I was in 720 for a while. I don't know if people can tell the difference. Really? Okay. Yeah. Yeah. So moving on. February 10th, 1972, David Bowie introduces his Ziggy Stardust persona at the second show of the 1972-73 Ziggy Stardust Tour at the Toby Jug Pub in Tallsworth, Surrey, England. Wow. What a pub. So he had Wings debuted, and then a day later, Ziggy Stardust debuted. And the English were kicking ass in 72. Yeah. And staying in that realm, February 13th, 1972, Led Zeppelin's concert in Singapore is canceled when government officials will not let them off the airplane because of their long hair. You love that. That offends me. That was a big problem back then, right? Your long hair. You couldn't enter a country because of your long hair. I almost kept Mark off the show for his long hair, but he's a hippie. Hey, I'd get a night off. I'd go watch you guys. I'd get a night off. Like I cracked the whip on him. I have worked up some PTO, you know, Scott. Oh, I used it. I'm sorry. He is a Grateful Dead fan. Yeah, that's true. That's true. Let's see. February 14th through the 18th, John Lennon in 1972, John Lennon and Yoko Ono co-host an entire week of The Mike Douglas Show. How fucking boring must that have been? You never see any of it? No. You gotta check it. That's my video of the week. That's my video of the week. Okay, I guess I should check it. I probably have seen clips of it, but very forgettable, maybe. I know you're a big Yoko fan. It's John. Chuck Berry is on, I guess. So John and Chuck Berry are jamming, and she's on the hook on the hook. I saw that. You've seen that, yeah. And the look on Chuck Berry's face is like priceless. Like what the fuck is that? Yeah. Oh, man. She just had no, she had no, she just did not care. She's like, I'm John Lennon's wife. I can do whatever I want. You know, I wonder what he really thought. I mean. Chuck Berry? I hope he was all about it, you know, but Chuck Berry was his idol. I mean, Chuck and Elvis, I mean, so you're jamming your idol, but you can't hear your guitar over a caterwauling. Yeah, and how John Lennon let her get away with that is amazing, but. We don't know what happened afterwards. We know. Yeah. February 29th, John Lennon's U.S. immigration visa expires because of his co-hosting on the lifetime of the show. I'm sure. He got deported. Because of Yoko's performance, things were called his visa. Talk about collateral damage. Why'd they pull his? Why did they pull hers? Beginning his three and a half year fight to remain in the country. Let me back up a little bit. February 23rd. Elvis and Priscilla Presley separate.
"mike douglas" Discussed on Milk Crates and Turntables. A Music Discussion Podcast
"Just do a music news podcast last night. Almost. But I'd rather hang out with my wife. I'll just throw something in there, you know. It is kind of easier for me to stay up late on a Thursday than a Wednesday, because I only have to get through Friday. But then I gotta remember, Lou works through the weekend, so. Yeah. I have Sunday on. I have Sunday off. Well, you do that other show. That other show. And I also, I do, for religious reasons and for money, I play the church on Sunday. And I have everything fixed this week. I have the comments is fixed. And we're on the right feed. We're on the right feed. Yep. Yep. YouTube is up there. I can get all these messages saying, I can't find it. And I'm broadcasting at 1080p. I found that. I was in 720 for a while. I don't know if people can tell the difference. Really? Okay. Yeah. So moving on. February 10th, 1972. David Bowie introduces his Ziggy Stardust persona at the second show of the 1972-73 Ziggy Stardust Tour at the Toby Jug Pub in Tallsworth, Surrey, England. Wow. So you had Wings debuted, and then a day later, Ziggy Stardust debuted. And the English were kicking ass in 72. Yeah. And staying in that realm. February 13th, 1972. Led Zeppelin's concert in Singapore is canceled when government officials will not let them off the airplane because of their long hair. You love that. That offends me. That was a big problem back then, right? Your long hair. You couldn't enter a country because of your long hair. I almost kept Mark off the show for his long hair, but he's a hippie. Hey, I'd get a night off. I could watch you guys. I'd get a night off. Like I cracked the whip on him. I have worked up some PTO, you know, Scott. Oh, I used it. I'm sorry. He is a Grateful Dead fan. Yeah, that's true. That's true. Let's see. February 14th through the 18th. John Lennon in 1972. John Lennon and Yoko Ono co-host an entire week of the Mike Douglas show. How fucking boring must that have been? You ever see any of it? No. All right. You got to check it. That's my video of the week. That's my video of the week. Okay. I guess I should check it. I probably have seen clips of it, but very forgettable maybe. I know you're a big Yoko fan. It's John. Chuck Berry is on a guest. So John and Chuck Berry are jamming. I saw that. You've seen that. Yeah. And the look on Chuck Berry's face is like priceless. Like, what the fuck is that? Yeah. Yeah. Oh, man. And she just did not care. She's like, I'm John Lennon's wife. I can do whatever I want. I wonder what he really thought. Chuck Berry? I hope he was all about it. Chuck Berry was his idol. Chuck and Elvis. So you're jamming your idol, but you can't hear your guitar over a caterwauling. Yeah. And how John Lennon let her get away with that is amazing. We don't know what happened afterwards. We know. February 29th, John Lennon's US immigration visa expires because of his co-hosting on the Mike Tubman Show. He got deported. Because of Yoko's performance, they've pulled his visa. Talk about collateral damage. Why'd they pull his? Why didn't they pull hers? Beginning his three and a half year fight to remain in the country. Let me back up a little bit. February 23rd, Elvis and Priscilla Presley separate. And okay, let me back up to February 15th. I had to jump ahead just to keep those two in order. February 15th, the United States gives federal copyright protection to sound recordings. Prior to this, phonograph records were only protected at state level and not in all states. Sampling, the rap would have loved that. The pop artist would have loved that. February 19th, a few things happen. Paul McCartney's single, Give Ireland Back to the Irish, inspired by the Bloody Sunday Massacre in Ireland on January 30th, 1972, is banned by BBC. Gee, you don't say. The controversy caused by the banning only increases the song's popularity and ends up in the top 20 in England. So why have record companies and people, politicians, why have they never caught on to the fact that if you put a label on that, it's just going to make it bigger? I think the record companies agree to it knowing they're going to sell more. Yeah, the record companies, you're right. I'll tell you that, that sticker that just said, you know, that sticker from the 80s. What's the lyrics? Guaranteed sales. I bought records because of that. Don't drink alcohol. Don't smoke pot. Yeah, you're going to do it. You know, it's the whole thing. When it becomes forbidden, you want to do it. It's music related. Also on February 19th, 1972, Sammy Davis Jr. makes a guest appearance on the television show All in the Family, leading to the longest laugh in the history of recorded TV up to that point. And I don't think anything has ever beat it. I think it's like a two minute laugh, like they just couldn't get out of it. They couldn't stop recording because people were still laughing. It was so great when he says, on three, one, two, and then he kisses Archie. Snaps the picture. That was a great episode. Second to that was, would you like some sugar in your eye? That was the second funniest. Which one was that? That was when Sammy was sitting in Archie's chair and they're giving him coffee or something. Would you like some sugar in your eye, Sammy? That's right, yeah. Let me see, March 15th at the 14th Annual Grammy Awards. In 1972, it was the 14th Annual. Hosted by Andy Williams. Winners include Carole King, Chris Kristofferson, Colin Davis, Michael LeGrand, Isaac Hayes. Nobody wore a chain vest better than Isaac Hayes, I'll tell you that. Julian Bream, Vladimir Horowitz, and the Juilliard String Quartet, and Bill Withers. And Bill Withers, yeah. Carole King wins Album of the Year for Tapestry, of course. Record of the Year for It's Too Late, and Song of the Year for You've Got a Friend. Monster album. Monster album. Monster band. With Carly Simon winning best mouth in music. She did not. Well, okay, best new artist, but there was a side. Best new mouth. That I gave her best mouth in the history of music. Greatest mouth. She won that award. I gave it to her. She deserves it. Doesn't deserve to be in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, and she deserves that award. Also on March 15th, LA disc jockey Robert W. Morgan plays Donny Osmond's puppy love nonstop for 90 minutes. Police are called, no arrests are made. Why not? Did they kill him? Why not? Did they shoot him? Yeah. On March 21st, 1972, Terry Knight announces he is launching a $5 million lawsuit against Grand Funk's new manager, John Eastman, one week after being fired as the band's manager himself. It triggers a series of suits and counter suits between Knight and the band throughout the coming months. March 25th, 1972, the 17th Eurovision Song Contest held in... Who cares? It's held in some Luxembourg or something. I don't know. March 31st, 1972, official Beatles fan club closes down. Wow. Yeah. In 72. Only two years after they broke up. Bunch of quitters. Really? What is the longest running fan club? I brought that up. Elvis. Slim Whitman. No, it's some other group. Longest running fan club. The Go-Go's. The Go-Go's. Go-Go's. April 2nd, 1972, John Lennon, the Yoko Ono, hold a press conference in New York. The Lennon's discuss their appeal against the US Immigration Department's decision to deport John. April 9th, 1972, first solo concert of Valerie Leonardo. Okay. As you can tell, I don't prove reason. I don't go through. Great show prep tonight. Great show prep. April 16th, 1972, Electric Light Orchestra makes their live debut at the Fox and Greyhound pub in Park Lake, Croydon, England. What does Marie Martin say? She says, Radio Luxembourg. Any singles became hits because of that station. Okay. Yeah. I'm Luxembourgian, actually. Oh my God. On my mother's side. He's a Luxembourgian on LinkedIn. Not anymore. Not anymore. Not anymore. I got bad. I shut down again. Looking for executives in all the wrong places. Electric Light Orchestra makes their live debut right at a pub. How did they fit on? With all those cellos. How did they fit everything in there? There was three customers. The rest is the group. They spilled beer on the cello. Oh man. Yeah. They were sitting in the audience playing. How does that work? What was the name of the pub? Fox and Greyhound pub. You know, England has like, why do they always have multiple names? I like Cock and Bull. Cock and Bull is the best name. You know, I could take a video clip that you just said I like. I could just clip that. I dare you. You gotta watch it. I dare you. I hear everything. I trust you. I trust you. Oh, look at that. What does he think of Jack now? Don't pick on Jack. Let's see. April 29th, New York City Mayor John Lindsay announces that he is supporting John Lennon and Yoko Ono and their fight to remain in the United States. And nobody cares. May 2nd. Very famous mayor. He was a very famous mayor. John Lindsay. That was like Kevin White was a mayor in Boston for a long time. He was the inspiration for the Mayor Lin Seed from the Batman TV series. Oh, good one, Lou. Thank you. One of the greatest series ever. May 2nd, 1972. Stone the Crows lead guitarist Les Harvey is electrocuted on stage during a show in Swansea, Wales by touching a poorly connected microphone. Harvey dies in a hospital a few hours later. One of the band's lead singer, Maggie Bell, Harvey's longtime girlfriend, is also hospitalized, having collapsed on stage after the incident. Imagine watching him, watching your man get electrocuted. I read up on that. They said it was one of the most horrific on stage executions. Like, people watched him for like a minute. Remember, I brought it up on the show a year ago. They just tried to help him. They would get electrocuted. No one knew. Like, put something over your hands. But he was writhing for like at least a minute, which is horrible to see. After he touched the mic. He touched the mic with his face. Yeah. He grabbed it or something. But that happened a lot back then. There's a lot of people. Keith Ralph died that way. I had that happen to me. In Elwood Park, I had a live mic. It wasn't grounded. And there's a cassette. The scream I put out is so high pitched. It didn't sound human. Wow. And I saw a spark. I had a burn on my face. Can you find that cassette? It's somewhere. Gotta find it. I know. I wish I had it. If you didn't leave it in the Walkman tonight, you were listening to B.O. Sad. If you want to see what it looks like, just watch Ian Curtis concert footage from Joy Division while he was still alive. He'd go into this trance and he would just start doing this herky-jerky shit on stage. He was David Byrne before David Byrne, I think. And Tom York. And Tom York, yeah. What Rolling Stone song has the words herky-jerky in it? Brown Sugar. And The Car of the Night. A herky-jerky little G.I. Joe. Oh, that's right. Let's see. May 8th, 1972. Billy Preston becomes the first rock performer to headline at New York's Radio City Music Hall. That's a good trivia question. May 27th, the Opryland USA Country Music Theme Park opens in Nashville, Tennessee. In June, it doesn't give a date, founding member Roy Wood leaves Electric Light Orchestra lineup just as the band scores its first hit single. June 3rd, the Rolling Stones open their North American tour in Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada. That's that whole Disgraceland episode about the Rolling Stones and Trudo's wife and the cocaine and the girl with faraway eyes and, yeah. Yeah, Marie Martin. You're acknowledging country. See, I do like that kind. I don't like this current shit from the 90s on, even maybe the 80s. 80s. I just stopped. It turned into pop music. It's pop country. It's not country music. It has to mean something. It's going for the Western. You could sing about crying in your beer, but make it meaningful. They're all pretty boys. I mean, there's no one like Waylon Jennings and Johnny Paycheck that were out just going fucking nuts, Merle. Just absolutely out of control, George Jones. They were rebels. They were literally rebels. None of the new guys have great mugshots. No. No, they're all pussies. The only modern one that does is Randy Travis. You know, you don't look too good now, but... There's a couple. There's a couple. Is he still alive? Yeah, he had a major stroke. Yeah, yeah. He doesn't... So he's made some kind of a... But he did have that classic look. You're right. He did have that classic country look, yeah. Perry will tell you that his biggest influence was Lefty Frizzell, who was one of those old traditional country guys like Hank Williams. Yeah, yeah. Lefty Frizzell, yeah. June 10th, 1972. Elvis Presley does the first of four concerts at Madison Square Garden. He sells out all the shows in one day, of course. Actually, not. He was... I mean, who was it? Someone sent me a message or a comment on Facebook that said, in 72, they said, Elvis Presley was hot in 72. Good looking hot. Not like a 1968, though. No. No, that's still... That's like the... Yikes. You got Elvis. Yeah. Yeah. June 14th. Oh, yeah. It was Marie Martin. That's right. She's the one that sent it to me. Yeah. Let me see. June 14th, Simon and Garfunkel reunite briefly to perform live at Madison Square Garden at a campaign benefit for Democratic presidential candidate George McGovern. He went big that year. Other performers include Peter, Paul and Mary, and Dion Ward. Jesus. What a... What a... Like a... Losing proposition. No. Concert that must have been. No excitement there. Nixon won 49 states, I think, that year. Yeah. Yeah. Landslide. George, do you know the way to San Jose? Yeah. That's the only state he won. No. City. July 24th, 1972, Bobby Ramirez, drummer for Edgar Winter's White Trash, is beaten to death in a Chicago bar fight reportedly because his hair is too long. Holy shit. That was a lot of long-haired shit, even from Singapore to fucking New York. That was on my album in 1972. It's about my hair. They mentioned the drummer. Almost cut my hair. Let's see. August 5th, 1972, Clive Davis signs Arrowsmith to Columbia Records at Maxis, Kansas City in New York City. One of his best signings. Yeah. Yeah. It definitely was profitable. Yeah. August 30th, 1972, John Lennon, the Yoko Ono headlined the one-to-one concert at Madison Square Garden to benefit mentally handicapped children. Have you ever seen the live stuff in that? No. It's good. Come Together. Elephant's Memory, man. Elephant's Memory, Roberta Flack, Stevie Wonder, and Sha Na Na also performed. It was still relevant in 72. Are they in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame? I think they are. I think they are. I think they should be. They better be. Come on. And they really stayed relevant from the fifties through all that change in the sixties going into the seventies. They were still relevant. And I think next to Callie Simon, Bowser has the best mouth in rock and roll. Oh, my. Oh, my. Oh, my friend Lou C. No, they're not in the Hall of Fame. They're not in the Hall of Fame. They're not. Lou's in the penalty box, so that's all that matters right now. Bowser. I didn't get to do this. No, I couldn't wait any longer. I was doing show research. It's a valuable thing. Listen, I'm with you, buddy. I know. And Lou was making bad jokes about Callie Simon and Bowser. Well, he is sitting on the porn couch. Don't mess with Callie Simon's mouth. That's all I'm saying. That's the second best. That's the best. I can't even compare. And I said Sheryl Crow is number two. Why is she so good? What is so great? She's got a good mouth. I've seen it. I've seen better. Give me an artist. Other than Callie Simon has a better mouth than Sheryl Crow. I mentioned her. Oh, shit. Not from the Divinals. Oh, suddenly last summer. Oh, Martha Davis. Martha Davis. Really? Much, much better than Sheryl Crow. I'm going to have to check that out. I like Martha Davis. Even Debbie Harry. No, no, no. Okay. What is Andy Mora? He has an all the way from Australia, my friend Andy Mora. I love Andy Mora. And he has this thing with Joe Biden. He loves throwing stuff out at Joe Biden all the way from Australia. He's a great dude, though. Big Smith's fan. Big Smith's fan. That's how we met. That's why you're friends with him. Yeah, that's how we met. And I've said this I don't know how many times, but he pops up every once in a while. I met him during COVID. I met him on a Smith's chat site and he was a total asshole. Oh, he's right. You probably loved him right away. Yeah, that's right. He was a total like, he would just tell it like it is. He's not even like polite about it. He just, and I just, we went back and forth and I was like, I kind of like this guy. He's pretty cool. I like him. Actually, you know, we've been friends for a couple of years now on Facebook. So we'll meet one day. I'm sure we'll meet. All right. Back to the show. No more interruptions from the Australian guy. Oh, where was I? Bowser. Clive Davis. John Lennon, Yoko Ono at the concert, September 1st through 7th. I'm not going to go into all that. September 21st, ABC premieres the new TV series in concert. First episode features Alice Cooper. Yeah. September 29th, 1972, Miles Davis unveils his new nine piece band at the Lincoln Center Philharmonic Hall. I love that period. October 12th night. What's that, Luke? Nice and funky. That was his funky period. Oh, OK. Apparently the band opened up for him on that. And they're like, they were scared. They were scared shitless to play. But they go on for a while. They hated it. There was a dread. You get selected by him. Better show up. You better be good. Well, that was like James Brown. He could hear everything. He knew every. That's like that's a literally genius level to be on stage, singing, dancing and still hear that the guitar missed a note or somebody's pitch was off. A drummer. Oh, he penalized the shit out of them. Yeah, I wouldn't want to be his drummer. No, no. You're going to make a mistake. Although funky drummer, funky drummer. He nailed that. Yeah. That funky drummer, drummer. Let's see. October 12th, 1972. Diana Ross makes her acting debut, of course, in the successful film in 72. No. Come on. Come on. Where are you going? Super. She got nominated for an Academy Award in this one. Evergreen something. The lady sings the blues. Oh, that early. 72. Wow. Connering her first Academy Award nomination for best actress. Never came close really after that. Diana Ross. Yeah. She got a nice one. I don't know. I just like they're all second to Carly. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. There can be an argument for second place. OK, I'm unwrapping it right now. Ready? Here we go. Here we go again. I'm afraid to open my mouth with this show. No. November 3rd, 1972. We're moving through to 72 pretty fast. James Taylor and Carly Simon, my girl, are married in a tiny ceremony in Simon's Manhattan apartment. Then Warren Beatty jumped out of the closet and said, it's all about me. And Mick Jagger. And Mick Jagger, yeah. On November 12th, 1972, 51,778 fans packed San Diego Stadium for a concert promoted by KGB AM to see Jay Giles Band, Quicksilver Messenger Service, Foghat, and Doctor Hook and the Medicine Show. That's a pretty diverse concert. And early in Foghat and Jay Giles' career. Yeah. Yeah. Very early. Jay Giles must have been off the hook. They must have had so much energy. Back then. Yeah. They had an Al Mountain 72 also. Yeah. Doctor Hook from New Jersey. Joy easy. November 26th, 1972, family touring North America as the warm-up act for Elton John played their last concert on US soil in St. Petersburg, Florida. December 23rd, 1972, Grand Funk Railroad completing its 1972 tour with a sold-out concert at New York City's Madison Square Garden, with the proceeds from the concert benefiting the Phoenix House Drug Rehabilitation Program, and with the show being filmed for ABC-TV's In Conscience series, the band is met by a lawsuit taken out by their former manager, Terry Night, who attempts to block the show from going on, attempting to seize their equipment, and a court injunction is given later in the day, allowing the concert to take place. New Year's Eve. What's that? It says Petty. Yeah. It's for equipment. Let's see. On New Year's Eve, December 31st, 1972, the first New Year's Rockin' Eve with Dick Clark airs on NBC before moving to ABC, with Three Dog Night as the featured act, Blood, Sweat, and Tears, Helen Reddy, and Al Green also perform. And a five-year-old Ryan Seacrest. Yeah. Let's see. And really, nothing else happened in 1970. That was pretty—it was a lot of interesting stuff. I don't think anything happened after December 31st. Usually, there's a little leftover at the bottom of this list. It's like also—it's like an afterthought. You couldn't have squeezed it into the timeline. There's always this group of bullets, and it's all also in 72. Why didn't you just put it in the timeline, people? Lazy editing. Lazy. Lazy. Let me jump—see, this is where the laptop comes in. I can jump to different pages. Let's see. Bands that formed in 1972. ABBA. Yeah. Ace. Ace. How long has it been going on? Alabama. They were one of the groups that ruined country. Look how long it took them to do it from 72 until whenever. They were determined to ruin country music. Average white band. Pick up the pieces. People still don't know they're Scottish. They're Scottish, yeah. I know. Captain and Tennille. 70s hottie. Tony Tennille. Tony Tennille was the 70s. She had that haircut that—what's her name? The figure skater. The Dorothy Hamill haircut. That was called a wedge. Is that what it was? I think it was called a wedge, yeah. Yeah. I think once Dorothy Hamill won the gold medal in figure skating and started—everyone started calling it like the Hamill or something. I don't know. It was the Mark Hamill. It was the Mark Hamill. Oh, God. East Street Band was formed in 1972. Free. The band Free was formed in 72. That didn't last long. No. No. The Jam. The Jam. 1972 they were formed, yeah. You just got me on that one. Yeah, right? I was surprised at that. Talk about bands from the difference in music. You know they weren't the jam that we know. And Love Unlimited Orchestra. What was her big hit? It was Barry White and the Love Unlimited Orchestra. Okay. Except when he started singing with it, that's when it became Barry White and the Love Unlimited. But he was conducting them, I believe. Let's see what I have here. Bands that broke up. I already said that. No, I didn't. Bands that broke up in 1972 are Creedence Clearwater Revival, Jefferson Airplane. Kinda. Yeah. It kinda broke up. Yeah, Stevie Van Zant, Little Steven, born in Winthrop, Massachusetts. Did not know that. Winthrop Hospital. Yeah. I actually went in Wikipedia and put a little bullet in there about that. Cool. I contributed to Wikipedia. Look at me. But did you donate? Did you give a dollar? They ain't getting my fucking money. I don't give it to them. Bunch of liberal communists. Watch. Here we go again. No, I'm just kidding. Wikipedia. Because some day, Milk Crates and Turntables is going to be in Wikipedia. That's my goal. You can add it, you know. We should, shouldn't we? Why not? All of a sudden, viewership jumps like by seven. Has the chronology, the members. Yeah. Martha and the Vandellas break up in 1972. MC5 breaks up in 1972. Whatever. Whatever. Overrated, maybe? Eh, yeah. Yeah, pretty much. Break out the jam. Isn't that like the one, the big song? Bloor, Sir Cole did it better than they did. Them breaks up in 1972. Van Morrison. Leading to Van Morrison's solo career. And the Velvet Underground breaks up in 1972. Who cares? Exactly. Again. Again. I'm not a big Lou Reed fan. I know. They're so influential. Yeah. Lou is alright. Lou is alright. I mean, one of the best concert albums ever. Rock and Roll Animal. Yeah. Great, great concert. I mean, one of the best intros to a song ever. Sweet Jane. The intro to Sweet Jane on that album. He just suffered from classic. It's not long enough. It's not long enough for me. It is the longest, one of the longest intros ever. Oh, good lord. He just suffered classic rock burnout. Like the radio stations. He's played a couple of singles from him. I don't know. And then you get him in the 80s and he's like, and I love you, Suzanne. I love you in the noon time. And he's like dance. I'm like that. Lou, what are you doing? Well, he also moved. He moved to New Jersey. He lived there. He was like New York City guy. He moved to the suburbs of New Jersey. Yeah. And he got really cool. And then he did those Honda scooter commercials. Oh. Lou Reed on a scooter. Yeah. Busted badass on that scooter. With a leather jacket on the dirty boulevard. Let's see. Let me move over to here. Albums that came out in 1972. So I might not have all of them, but I'm going to go month to month. And I know you guys have your lists, right? So, of course. I'm just going to cross out whatever you say. Yeah, but feel free to comment on them either. I mean, that's, you know. By the way, Scott. There's one album I'm not going to bring up because I know Lou's going to bring up. That's all I'm saying. Let him bring up. He knows what I'm talking about. No, I can't wait. No, I can't wait. There's number one on my list. And there's one movie he's going to bring up. Well, you know what? Let's stop. There's an album. There's an album. I could build this up, but I got to jump right into it. Lou, give us the album. The debut album by Bluerster Cult. The anonymously titled Bluerster Cult. Hang on. With the classic track, she's as beautiful as a foot. City's on flame with rock and roll. The other one is Andy Williams, the love song from The Godfather. Ah. It's actually an album. Of course, the movie came out in 72 as well. Yeah, it did. That's right. So, you know that theme song. Do you guys know the title of that song? I don't. The theme from The Godfather. Yeah, right. It's called Speak Softly Love. Oh. Speak Softly Love. Check out the brain on Lou. You're a smart motherfucker. Yeah. Thanks. I'm hungry. Let's see. Music by Carol. This is in January. Music by Carol Kane came out in 72. So, she must have had two albums that year. It's called Music? Yeah. She had one album called Music and then Tapestry came out probably later on, right? Yeah. Yeah, it did. She had two. She had two. American Pie, Don McLean. Can anyone name another song off that album? Narcissisma. Look at Lou. Lou is just like, Mark, what's wrong with you? That's like the album that has, by Tom, Harry Chapin. What's his big hit, Cats in the Cradle? Name another song off that album. No. Fucking worst song ever. I got American Pie for Christmas. That was my first cassette album. My dad got me a cassette player and I got that album for Christmas. The only song I liked was American Pie. Everything else was like, what is this? It was not quite for a 10-year-old. But that dude made Bow Load O' Money on that. That's it. Good documentary that I just watched recently. I mentioned it a few shows back on American Pie. Oh, yeah, yeah. That's right. Where he says at the end that God basically, the meaning of the Father, Son, and the Holy Meaning, God sold out and he's going to LA. I had some Christian friends that didn't like that. I put that out there and I was like, what's that? You're interpreting. I said, no, this is the guy. This is the guy that wrote the songs. They're like, well, that's his interpretation. He wrote the songs and his interpretation is really the only one that matters. Then I showed the clip of him actually saying that. They're like, they still refuse to believe that. It's amazing how people hang on to something from a song. Yeah. Right. There's nothing in genuflecting, you know, that stuff. But Donald is actually Jewish. Yeah. Yeah. So he wouldn't acknowledge the son because Jesus and the son of God, a Jew, the last name, McLean. I got to look into my history. Have you done the what's a new DNA test? I will. They will never get my DNA. I haven't. I haven't done it. My brother did. I let my cousin do it. It's like we got Viking in our blood. I was like, OK. Dude, look. Yeah. I could see you on a little boat coming into the English Channel. We're here to kill all of you right now. Yeah. I was going to let my beard grow in that whole thing. I'm like, no, I can't do that. Throw logs on Sunday afternoon for fun. So where I, you know, I work with the horses now, the therapy horses. And one of the women that does it, she teaches yoga with horses and she's very good. And she has this horse and it's a what kind of horse is it? It's like a Clydesdale. It's in that kind of family. Right. It's not as big. It's not as tall as a Clydesdale. Yeah. But this thing is like white with like black on it. It's got one one blue eye. Oh, cool. And I'm like, that is a fucking Viking horse. If I ever saw one, it's got the fur around the hooves. Take a picture for us. I will. You know what? I will. So that I'm like, if I ride any horse, it's going to be that one. That is a fucking Viking horse right there. Have you ever ridden a horse? Ah, years. Long, long time ago. Right now, I'm just doing groundwork with them. And that's what I I really like, because it's more of the behavioral aspect and figuring them out. And you never can, though. But it's, you know, and then watching how they really do help people. Like we have veterans that come in with PTSD and we have treatment centers that come in and, you know, like you get these guys and they're just like, this is so fucking cool. It's such a it's almost like it's it's kind of an under the radar type therapy, but it's really it's really fucking amazing stuff. I'm sure I'm sure I went to a farm and there were goats, old, young and they all came and surrounded me. And I wasn't afraid, but it was the coolest thing. Yeah. Well, for one thing, but you're like smell like a goat. We used to say that. Yeah, right. I mean, they're not threatening, but, you know, they actually like you. You know, they're there. But to be surrounded by horses are just so powerful. Oh, yeah. Like just to be next to you. This this guy today, he was said he goes, wow, this is like this is amazing when you're up close with them and they're just standing there and they're very mellow and they're just very calming. They're huge. Yeah. Fucking powerful. Big animal. Yeah. I got kicked in the stomach by a shetland pony when I was a kid. That hurts. Fucking hurt. I don't know if we have time, but someday you got to tell me that story. All right. Let's get back to the show. Yeah. Albums that came out in January 1972. We always get. This is why this shit runs two and a half hours. All right. We got all these rabbit holes and it's like, Jesus. Let's see. Led Zeppelin four came out in 72 in January. Chicago at Carnegie Hall. Oh, I got that. That's a great. Yeah. George Harrison and Friends concert for Bangladesh. I got that album. Cat Stevens teaser and the fire cat. Carole King tapestry. Sly and the Family Stone. There's a riot going on. Yeah. Probably, arguably, most definitely the coolest band ever. Yeah. Sly and the Family Stone. Just the absolute coolest band ever. Interracial band. Just, but so smooth. So smooth and so cool. They weren't slick though. They weren't slick. No. Let's see. Grand Funk E Pluribus Funk came out. Round record cover. Just like a, I got that. Good. Any notable songs on that? I can't remember. He's drinking wine out of a funk. It came out. No, it's actually a whiskey classic. It came out of a mason jar. Might as well. Might as well. Come down by me. Come over there and do the mason jar. TV soundtrack, All in the Family came out. Soundtrack? Yeah. So they got the theme like for 45 minutes? Yeah, but like what else could there be? Is it the first EP? Is it the first extended? Probably 20 minutes long, 10 minutes a side. It's got snippets of the show. It's got Gene Stapleton singing opera. Let's see. February 1972. Let me see. They already had this one. Music. Hot Rocks. 64 to 71, Rolling Stones. The first one. Yeah. Faces. A nod's as good as a wink to a blind horse. Oh, that's a good album. It is. I love that album. Maggie's Farm. Yes. Fragile came out. Yeah. Monster. Yes. Name the songs on that album. Roundabout going into, I can't remember the name of the Rick Wakeman, South Side of the Sky, Long Distance Runaround, The Fish, Heart of the Sunrise. Yeah. That's the album that launched them. Yeah. No doubt. That's the album that launched them. Those were prog rock songs on the radio. They were hit prog rock songs. Yes, but they weren't up and done much. You hear Roundabout all eight minutes to this day on the radio. Yeah. A friend of mine, I mentioned him on Facebook the other day, an Italian kid from South Philly, right, grew up as South Philly as you could get. Like him already. Huge Yes fan. Huge Yes fan. My friend Dominic Marty. That was a warring camp. There were ELP fans and Yes fans. And I never got that because I love them both. You know, it's like they just- He said something about it. He didn't like them before so-and-so left the band or until somebody came into the band. There was something that you Yes fans always kind of- Prog fans, I told you, Scott, they're opinionated. Well, don't get five prog guys in a row. I didn't like it after so-and-so. If you had to choose between Yes and ELP, if you had to. Ooh. Sophie's choice here. Sophie's choice. Let me tell you something.
"mike douglas" Discussed on Monday Morning Critic Podcast
"If you're funny or not. I don't have time to follow your career. And so good luck. And so I thought, well, okay, I used to be a page at CBS. They were going to shoot the Mike Douglas show for a week at CBS, and I still had ways to get backstage. So I went backstage at CBS television city, knocked on Mike Douglas's door. And said, hi, my name is Mark. My friend Bertie Brown used to be a producer. He told me I was going to be on your show. And can I have a discussion with you about it? And he went nuclear on me. You know, don't meet your heroes. I don't know who you are. I don't have time to talk to you on I've got the Gene Kelly and first air on. I'm nervous and I need to go do with that. You know, and get out of my life, basically, is what he said. And I was stunned by that. Here was this guy I grew up watching. I thought he was amazing. Was I out of line? I don't know. I was too dumb to know if I was or if I wasn't. But there's certainly nicer ways to handle those things. So I went downstairs in the lounge and wrote probably a 5 page letter explaining who I was, what I did, my relationship with Bert, how he prowse me to be on yada, yada, yada, knocked on the door. His wife was there. And she informed me that neither Mike or her had time to talk to people like me, not everybody got a chance to be on the Mike Douglas show and not everybody was allowed to interact with them. So I handed over the letter, whether he saw it or not, I don't know. And I never did the Mike Douglas show. But I was crazy enough and persistent enough to try and make that happen. But it's happened to me several times where I've gone to meet quote my heroes and was disappointed after the fact.
"mike douglas" Discussed on Out of Bounds Podcast
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"mike douglas" Discussed on Live From Detroit: The Jeff Dwoskin Comedy Show
"How can I do that? Because it's not you can't shoot this like a talk show. And we learned all the stuff we needed to ultimately what became the green room on showtime. The key to it really was, I was used to watch television. I used to watch comedy on television all the time and I would get frustrated. I would think watching how many intelligence the best part of comedy is like stripped away the spontaneity, you know, when you go on a talk show, they don't know every word you're going to say and the way they shoot things are like, you don't have to stand here because the camera's over there. And I was like, well, what happens if the production conforms to the comedy? I told the blind producers, make sure that whoever's behind the camera has done sports and news. Because that's what we want them to follow the ball. We have no idea where it's going and where it's coming from. And that's why we had that sort of dynamic shooting style and that real intimate kind of put the camera right in the audience and all of that sort of stuff. That was all done from experimenting with it at the Edinburgh fringe festival. A much closer accomplishment of what the impulse was even way back in the late 80s when I started comics only was just people need to see what it's like to just hang out with a bunch of comics. For comics only, I watched a few episodes or at least a few half episodes I watched. Bill Hicks. And Drake sather and Tom Wilson. Oh, yeah, cool. Well, you know, we also had another funny thing on that show was we had a real mix of old and young. Because that's the thing that I feel is missing from television now. Because when I was coming up, you'd watch the Mike Douglas show and they'd be like, you know, this hot young new comic Freddie Prinze on with Alan King and Gore Vidal or whatever. It was always a mix of old and young. So you could see the classics, the greats, the people who had established themselves and become icons and comedy. And you could also see, you know, cheech and Chong, the new up and coming, you know, comics. And that's missing because music nobody questions and music nobody questions about the fact that James Taylor is working with this band that's the oldest member's 23. You know, nobody questions that. It kind of makes intuitive sense that, of course, the old musicians and young musicians they would get together. It's the same with comedy. And so Steve Allen used to come on the show all the time, rip Taylor came on the show. We did a whole episode of Phyllis Diller. I was always into bringing comedy in regardless of demographics. And that was another weird thing. It's Comedy Central didn't care because they didn't really have an audience yet. They basically let us do whatever we wanted. They weren't really paying attention. And here actually, here's a really funny story. We did a lot of dark sketches on the show because my head writer and my co host on the show was Fred wolf, who some of your listeners know, I don't know if you know, but Fred went on to write for Saturday Night Live and he's written all the Chris Farley and David Spade movies and he's always working..
"mike douglas" Discussed on Factually! with Adam Conover
"Don't wanna hear your side. You know yeah. Yeah i mean. That's this wild wild to me. That i as a former comedy as a sphere of common community of comedy history of comedy. The native comedy is so not well known in the public imagination. You know That like i've been doing comedy as long as you. Have you know about about ten years. That i've been doing stand up and i've also been performing a niches. You know like. I performed for about eight of those ten years. It was based in new york city. You know and most of my jokes were about the subway and amount. I don't know hipsters or whatever it was like shit about br jokes about brooklyn you know what i mean. How is that different from you said and you're doing you're doing jokes tribal organizations etc and then also starting to branch out. I had a question here about like how do you adjust your comedy for a native audience versus broadening it out only hold on a second. That's how is it any different than what i did. When i was doing. New york comedy. I started touring and i had to learn to speak to other people. And why is the place. That i came from the more famous comedy snitch than the comedy. That that you that you Were performing ebb. Yeah no you you you. It is like you know you star in any. And then you want to broaden your audience so you do throw in more mainstream ideas and you go from so it isn't. It isn't any different than you know. If i'm going to go play a show for because i do a lot of role rural i can't say it's still rural shows. Yeah it's hard. Because i do have us an okie in home accent and so it messes up my ours but i do a lot of country type of shows and then i can go this city and just switch to in. We could talk about subways. You know we'll be speaking of history Before we go to break. I wanna make sure that we talk about charlie hill in terms of the such a main character in the book such a towering figure in the book and i really have to show my ignorance. I thought i knew a hell of a lot about stand up comedy. When i was starting comedy. I read a lot and i listened to a lot and i was not. I think i heard the name. But i was not familiar with charlie hill and his importance and i wonder if you guys could similarly enlighten the rest of our listeners about him. Charlie hill was really one of the original comedy store comedians. I think the first time he showed up on the doorstep of the comedy store on the sunset strip was in late. Nineteen seventy four. So that's even before david letterman arrived at the world. Famous comedy store but in terms of what adrian was saying about Erasure documentary on showtime and. Charlie hill is intended. You know really. Yeah so again. Is that thing about fame. Verses significance charlie hill never became a household name despite the fact that he did the richard. Pryor show in one thousand nine hundred seventy seven it really anointed him and established him in the industry and the comedy club. Boom was just starting in seventy seven more and more comical opening up by nine hundred eighty. There's all these comedy clubs by. Nine eighty-five is just crazy. Comedy clubs across. America so charlie hill was well. Poised to start touring all these clubs after he did the richard. Pryor show in seventy seven. Did the tonight show starring johnny carson in nineteen seventy eight. The first native american comedian for on late night. Tv the so far the last native american comedian to do the tonight show or late night. Tell how many did like Late night with david. Letterman and eighty five did the merv griffin show. Mike douglas show. I think he did arsenio in the early nineties so he was a working comedian and a respected comedian and every bit the comedy store from that area. You talked to them. They love charlie hill. He was really funny he was like yeah like i as i was listening to the book i did. I did audio book. Don't blame me. I was. I was on the road. Hey man i'm proud of my audio book. what are you saying. You recorded audio for the audiobook did you. Not didn't you listen to it. I did recognize my voice. I do it. I mean it's just an excellent performance was reading not a lotta authors can read their own books like authors are known for their wonderful speaking voice. Just wonderful job. This is that historian who says cock sucker but it's it's it's a feet of performance do an audience. You gotta sit there for a long. I've done one. It's like hours and hours. Yeah it's sometimes when you read about records like a famous like Album and you find out the context in which it was recorded like there's a famous George clinton song from nine hundred sixty eight called. Hey hey mama or what you're gonna do mama was recorded during the detroit riots and they had the studio barricaded and so when you listen to that song with that context it has this other like level to it this audio book but was recorded not to compare myself to that but this audiobook was recorded at the height of the pandemic and there was a stay at home order. Do not go outside. And they're like except for essential services. Because this is hollywood. Essential services included like podcasts and other bullshits had to go to the studio in in west hollywood to record the audio book and it was like nerve wracking because the studio was run by this old guy and he was sneezing and i was like what is going on. I'm trying to like you know do this audiobook. And there's a director in new york in your ear. And i'm in los angeles and i'm from canada. So he's like hello. You just said sorry taken again at sorry. I can't use your own accident with an audio book. Well because my accent is so subtle when it comes up it just sounds like i'm pronouncing things wrong about british accent. Oh yeah garage but with my accent. You're like guy doesn't know how to pronounce things he's down like you're mocking yourself. Have myself also what i. I was listening to audiobook as i was like. Let me go. Watch a clip of charlie hill. Go watch his first. That richard pryor performance some other ones and like he was so good like he was. Why are people. I love richard prior to you. Know he was doing very daring material at that time. And and you know things that nobody has seen. Before and like charlie hills material was so daring so funny And why is this guy. Not al mount rushmore with all the other folks who are so often up there well again. It can't it has to do with that that american can see of fame versus significance. It's like if you're famous you're in the history books doesn't necessarily mean that you're good just you're famous. We know that from american culture fame doesn't mean quality but it does mean attention and so the history books focus on those who are famous and charlie hill was famous indigenous communities like very famous every indigenous community. Still to this day knows charlie hill and adrian's nodding yes and people stories. Oh yeah. I met him at a conference in two thousand eleven. He was so nice to me or i saw him on. Tv he was my parents favorite. That's why comedy hype. A story came up again and again and again every time. I was researching charlie hill but with white people have never gain traction. But the richard pryor thing. Richard pryor saw charlie hill on stage at the comedy. Store and richard. Pryor felt that charlie hill was doing for native. Americans would richard pryor during for african americans. The first time he saw charlie who perform he came up to him afterwards and he said The.
"mike douglas" Discussed on MyTalk 107.1
"And I'll just pretend like it's a book. We've recommended it. I love it. Okay, and then To seven cleans his high and here's your new book. Hold. Do we see the show? And Jenelle and Rhonda? Congratulations. You guys are winners today, and this book is really kind and plus you get a Guzzi Cup. I I called him because he's a cozies cozies. I'm calling cozies. Uzis and Duluth we column cozies because cozy means something else, girl. Well, sorry down here in the twin cities I thought we called him. Kuzzik. I I don't know. Is it cozier is a cozy, cozy You're a beer cozy. It's a bear cuisine. Thank you. Cozy, though it isn't No, it is closing up to your beer and keeping it cool. The Lord. But thank you, Holly. I knew I finally win on the pronunciation game. I only one for Julia. You've won more than one but barely barely win on pronunciation. Yeah, because milk. Oh, yeah, but it's a cozy cop. I've no I always call him cozies. And I know my friend Jackie calls him coz she does. Yes. Thank you early because I always said they're cozy. She gave me a really cute wine cup cozy. My word. Yeah, they have those two. Oh, yeah. Just for beer, No glass and the bottle for the forward like glass class and your bottle. Wow. I call that a yeti. Come now floating, I guess. Overflow. Yeah, because, like a yeti seems to be the modern day cozy, but they're so overpriced. Oh, I know what you can get fake yet He's what the yeti with the with the heavy Let's talk about Okay. Here. This is Kelly Clarkson Show will take over. Ellen Did Genesis Time sat in 2022. That's fall of 2022. Roger Friedman says this, he said, this is a clever and brilliant way to have a brilliant and lucrative act for Clarkson. She is not is basically given up her recording career. Her last it was 2012. To be dinosaur who was a big singer of the hits of the fifties. Did a popular talk show ran for years. And she said Hey, was like You remember her last album is piece by piece in 2015. Was that it? No. There was, Yes, that I'm looking at home. And they're so anyway. He calls it a clever act for her because he's like, Listen, she sings on her show all the time she put out albums of cover songs from these performances. Now begins there of Kelly Clarkson, a Dina. Many others came before her show is averaging. You know, $800.1000 viewers her test scores or whatever that their cue score, whatever they do. Well, I don't know if you know that number, but I mean, it's not a bad life to be a television talk show host. Just ask Alan or Oprah. All right, but I'm telling you they made they made, you know, like that Zaloom creative thing for her and I think she's going to have a break up album. Well, she's totally coming out with an album inch that information that he has is wrong, because the meaning of life came out in 2017, and we have some hits off love. So soft is on there. All right, are the heat Um, e can't leave everything right? No, you can't. Because I gave you a CD with a lot of these songs. And and I'm like it was with Lady Gaga when she did her her Jolene album. It was that copulation and I called it the women and it was 2017. I just played it for you. His audience must be older because only a few of us know who dinosaur is. I've loved the start was lovely shit. A love that was run out. Merged. Douglas dug beyond like Mike Douglas. Merv Griffin. E like Murdoch, but they would be on it like a half hours, something in the afternoon and they were very good. They're smoking and they were drinking. But there's always having to cut all these haven't seemed like they were having cocktails. They're loose. Yeah, but that's kinda That's Kelly Had Simon out. Seven colony was freshly tandem. Bo Tox. How did that go? She's she's She's. She's a perfect combination e think she does. And you know you do very Marshall got nominated for, um, well, it's gotten better. That's what we were talking about yesterday. Alarmingly, Um I don't want to watch a talk show show like that in the afternoon or, like kind of see that she's so effortlessly charming, but she was trying So hard to be a dd charming or she was just all over the place. It was made me actually anxious, and I don't ever get anxious. I mean, that's my Jerry Day. That's right. I think that she was just trying to find a new angle like this is driving him getting her groove now, But I do think that when you start well, what's gonna be new? What's gonna be different, and it's besides the personality. You know, everyone says, Well, this is what I'm gonna do, and I think she really wanted to highlight the average Joe doing great. Things that was she spent a lot of money time on that at the beginning of the show. I think that that's done but what we're finding out because you know more good news. You know, I remember when we first started our show. Dad would always tell us, my daddy, I would say, you know, why not feature Good. Good news. Why not pick really good stories and people magazine always would have since the beginning of time. I feel like they would always have one hopeful story. It came out of tragedy or something. So there was some way to get there, though. Yeah, but so then she added Ross, you know he's a regular fun, but I think she spent so much time on that trying to do the goods news story was it was, Yeah, it was like just making you nervous because her show is very different now, and I never took it off the DVR. Julian in Blast. I am the time shows to know stuff about taxes, it seems like Drew Barrymore is leaning into the fact that she's drew bury more. Been in Hollywood for dough super successful and she was really fun on CBS Morris Morning last week filling in for Tony Do Dukat Do Koppel or whatever, same chapel and in Tony. Now, this is something I want you guys to notice. Well, here's what's happened. Okay. So on CBS this morning, you know, there's the Today show Good Morning America on CBS. And so, Tony, if you've noticed since they've gone back in studio, he has quit wearing tennis shoes with white soles. Because he was wearing black tennis shoes. But with the white souls I think someone told them to dress like a big boy. Oh, because seriously, you know, he quit wearing those after we see their feet after 22 years of nagging my husband to please stop boring black crew socks with his shorts and his tennis shoes. Now I knew this going in. I saw this on him, and I didn't think it was. You know, a lot of things going on. I just thinking about that. How much massaged them? He just bought White socks and I Yesterday just said, Um, Can I tell you how cute and delicious you look, you know that there are style of black is back in. I was gonna tennis players are wearing black socks. Everyone's been wearing them. We've come full circle. Very worry. You've got him. Sorry, but Casey is not the tallest man in the black cut him off and the.
"mike douglas" Discussed on Pantheon
"That's right off the debut album. Get the firehouse at number four. I'm just going to let you know. Now that's my number four so go ahead okay. So what can you say about firehouse. The studio version the live version every version. I love the song i know. A lot of people prefer the live version. It's a little peppier. But i'm on record as saying i really liked that kind of slow studio version. I just fucking classic song could have been number one for me but it's number four. Yeah the backing vocals the dual vehicles. All that shit is that paul. Is that gene awesome. And then when. I see it on the mike. Douglas show and the sirens. Oh glomming. I'm a sucker for a siren kiss. Song live alive version of it is incredible for me g. Ask just set the house on fire. The fire house Yeah that's number four for me. Easily all right so back to number three and other duplicate call dr love was my number three. I call and talk to the d like rock and roll. I like rocko. I like kiss seventies. Kiss kiss is cool. I like kiss. I like i like. I like kiss albums..
"mike douglas" Discussed on Radio Free Nashville
"Formation of American politics by Lawrence O'Donnell. The first chapter, seizing the moment it starts in 1968. Richard Nixon was in the makeup chair when he met Roger Ailes maybe was the makeup chair. This set sails off. He was looking at the man who might have been president right now, if he had just sat in the makeup chair. CBS offered him in Chicago before before the first televised presidential debate. In American history. Nixon had ignored the network's makeup artists and use the drug store product called Lazy Shave to cover his heavy five o'clock shadow. Someone said I could shave within 30 seconds before I go on television still have a beard. Day After the debate, The Chicago Daily News ran the headline was Nixon Sabotaged by TV makeup artists. Richard Daley, the all powerful Democratic mayor of Chicago, said My God, they've embalmed him. Even before he died. Nixon lost the election of John F. Kennedy by 2/10 of 1% of the vote 49.7% of 49.5%. In an election that close every mistake matters. A mistake like not getting the makeup, right was the kind of thing that infuriated Roger Ailes. Now. Seven years later, Ailes was meeting Nixon for the first time in the makeup room of the Mike Douglas Show. At age 26 Ales looked like an assistant. But he was the boss, the executive producer of the show, and Nixon was once again a presidential candidate and what was beginning to look like a crowded field covering the 1968 Republican nomination. Hales wanted Nixon to be president, and he knew the most powerful force blocking Nixon's path to the White House was television. Win the White House in the 19 sixties you had to understand and respect. The power of television sales also knew that one of Nixon's potential rivals for the Republican nomination understood everything about television. Ronald Reagan, the former film and TV actor. Ales wondered what Nixon had learned about TV since the makeup disaster of the 1960 campaign. Sitting in the makeup chair. Nixon offhandedly mentioned in a ales How silly it felt to try to reach voters by appearing on an afternoon talk show like this one instead of a news show, like Meet the Press. Mike Douglas show is targeted in a housewives and usually populated by B list showbiz celebrities. In response, Ales instantly rattle off a list of every bad move Nixon had ever made on TV, and it was a long list. Sales was a teenager when he'd seen some of these things. This was not the way people talked to former Vice President Richard Milhouse Nixon. There was none of the deference that Nixon had become accustomed to over the decades. Nixon loved it. Acheson made ales and offer he couldn't refuse. Instead of trying today Make Mike Douglas America's big biggest afternoon TV star, make Richard Nixon America's next president. With nails on the media team. The Nixon campaign was ready to make the move from being the worst TV campaign to the best. We're gonna build this whole campaign around television, Nixon told his media team. You boys just tell me what to do and I'll do it. Roger Ailes. His career and Republican politics, which included every day he ran. Fox News turned out to be longer than Richard Nixon's Ales became more influential in Republican politics. The Nixon ever Woz Reason to wonder who would be president today of Richard Nixon and not provoked Roger Ailes in the Mike Douglas Show Makeup room. Such of the seeds that were planted in American politics in the 1968 presidential campaign. Run Bobby Run is the some head for the next part of this body was a natural on television in 1967. He was the only potential presidential candidate who could charm a TV audience just by being himself. All he needed was this smile. Bobby was the Elvis of American politics. The only politician who didn't need a last name to identify him. His last name was everything. It was Bobby Kennedy's last name that made every potential candidate fear him. As the field of candidates began to take shape. In 1967. Every campaign calculation depended on Bobby. Even when he showed no signs of wanting to run even when he told people he wasn't going to run President Lyndon Baines Johnson feared Bobby to the point of obsession. Johnson thought Bobby was the only one who could do the unthinkable. Challenge the incumbent presidents grip on the Democratic nomination. Awesome was sure that Bobby was the only Democrat who might dare run against him. He was wrong. Nixon feared Bobby, too, as did every Republican planning a campaign. Nixon knew exactly what to fear he had lost to a Kennedy before. Losing to a Kennedy meant losing to the Kennedy political machine, and I met losing it to the Kennedy style. Political machine could be beaten by a better political machine. The next Nixon had never seen a better make political machine than the Kennedys. Kennedy style with something else. Nixon knew there was nothing ails could do for his image that could compete with Kennedy style. Nixon couldn't change his sharply receding hairline at 54. He was too old to do anything but tamped down. His short, dark hair is flattened pas as possible on his head. Obvious here had grown longer every year. The 19 sixties now at 42 he had the Shaggy is terror in the United States Senate. His little brother, Ted was the only other senator with a full head of hair. Obviously, I was beginning to grow over his ears. Rock musician length for the Senate, then Everywhere. Bobby spoke outside the Senate chamber. He was treated like a rock star. That's what Nixon and Johnson feared most about Bobby the way the crowds responded to him. They've never seen anything like it in politics. Accident. Johnson, We're both old enough to remember the first time anyone saw fans screaming and swimming for Frank Sinatra, the 19 forties before, during and after every song Sinatra sang America saw an even more intense version of that fan reaction when the Beatles landed in the United States in 1964. Now Nixon and Johnson saw a version of it happening to Bobby. Everywhere. Bobby went, crowds worked themselves into frenzies. When he spoke. He didn't sound like any senator they heard before his voice wasn't stiff and self conscious. The book playing with fire by Lawrence a dollar Mm hmm. This'll is Tom Hartman program. And welcome back to Marvin Here with you. John Noel is on the line with.
"mike douglas" Discussed on Heartland Newsfeed Radio Network
"Nine o'clock And those co directors are matthew heineman and matthew hamma check. They're both with us now. Matthew heineman let's start with you just on the surface of it when. I say director Sometimes there can be too many chefs. It's usually one person as we know. But you know collaborations do work. How hard is it to go. Direct something with somebody Thank you for having on some show. I it's not hard at all when it's someone you've worked with for a very long time. Man i have been very very close collaborators for many years now Dating back to document that directed Nike edited and produce Called kotel and you know we worked on a number of projects with that dynamic and so just you know. He's really exciting to see him. Step into the director's chair and to collaborate together You know this is sort of a tv show that you know is not a typical you know one director does one episode one team one episode and other team another episode. This was they must envisioned from the very beginning at you. Know one long film ultimately divided into two parts So we really collaborated in together and matthew hammer check As you know a lot of people say oh yeah yeah. I know the tiger story already. So when people assume that you gotta dig deep and you gotta get stuff that you know footage. We haven't seen we gotta talk to people that we haven't heard of so. How difficult was that to sort of. Put that this new stuff all together. What's interesting you say. That i think you know i think tiger is ultimately one of the most famous and recognizable faces on the planet right and i mean there has been so much written about him. He's done so many press conferences and so many interviews there's been tv specials made about him You know i. Interestingly i think in two thousand nine on thanksgiving night what we all learned is that we know next to nothing about the guy. And i think that was the initial spark that sort of piqued my interest in all of this and so one of the things that be set out to do is all of that coverage that had been done about tiger over all these years really a lot of it was done by journalists that were walking the course with him. You know sort of at an arm's length. And they talked a lot about his golfing prowess but one of the things that we noticed that nobody had really dug deep into to get to know the people that knew tiger best and that was sort of a mantra that i had when we started making this film is that you know we. We wanna be. We wanna talk to the people that were in the living room with tiger when he was growing up and it typical points in his career. Whether it's you know his His first girlfriend i love of his life dina grefell or his caddie of leading years. We won thirteen majors. With steve williams. And then finally rachel you could tell So our goal is to find people that really knew tiger and can give us insight into who he was and matthew heineman. I remember being at the big game between count staffer down in palo alto and tiger came out at halftime and he was honored. And the cal students started channing you never graduated and he was standing there with you know his wife and his kids and he had the mike and he said just wait until the second half and everyone cheered and i swear it was a week or two weeks after that that the whole you know golf club in the windshield and all that went down. I think one of the more bizarre things about that was or how many people in the national media felt that tiger had betrayed them personally. And i'm like this is between tiger and his wife. It's amazing how many people almost felt like tiger was a part of their family was definitely more interesting Things trust exploring and in the film. You know that that that sort of psychology doesn't just exist for all the dozens and dozens and dozens of journalists in sports journalists. That had covered tiger for years. But you know the american public at large you know how much weight how much we emotionally. Invest in people were we don't know personally But so i think it was quite fascinating to see to explore how much of our own expectations in our own Lies we put into to people like tiger wood. And therefore when he revealed his his flaws and season when his father revealed you know we as the american public took that personally. And i think you know the film is about many things. But i think it's about on one level expectation and i think the expectations began with oral would propagating son as you know the next gandhi Beginning at at two years old. And i think those outside expectations that url Created the mythos around tiger as a kid. a teenager as a college You know that miss You know was obviously the man was taken on by the by the media and by journalists. And so i think that all came crashing down When that news broke and matthew hammer check. I was going to bring that up to about his dad and tiger going on on johnny carson. And it's it's not. It's not often that these kids. Up to the hype. Usually they burn out or a late bloomer. What have you so do you think As we try to crawl on sites tigers head which no one can get into except himself was it. A matter of of hubris was in a matter of. I'll never get caught. What do you think it was was he. I'm sure psychologists with replacing something with all these pecadillos. What did you sort of come to well. I think You know like you said if an unanswerable question but you never really get inside tigers head but in talking to people. That knew him best. There was this pattern after all of this pressure had been put on tiger his entire life. Starting with the mike. Douglas show that on actually when he was two years old and You know it started there. And it just ballooned and balloon and balloon and there was this pattern that the all of his friends and family sorta point to where he started. Try to escape that and as you know one of our subjects talk about it. Her name is amber lawyer. She was the niece of mark. O'meara and you know who is very close to tiger. And she's spent a ton of time with him when he just turned pro and she talks about how scott tiger took up scuba diving and she thought that was peculiar and she said why. Do you like to go scuba diving so much. And he said because the fishing's don't know who i am down there and know he started trying to escape with scuba diving and then that turned into You know maybe training with the navy seals and you mentioned the sort of affair that were splashed across the headlines for so many years after two thousand nine one of the things that i think we've found fascinating in in making this film and talking to all these people that sure. Sex was a component of that. But more so than the stacks. I think what tiger was really getting after was Sort of emotional intimacy with all these women. He was trying to form relationships with them. And you know rachel you could tell even talks about how ya would. When he was with her he would call it plugging in that he would be one of the lane next to her and fall asleep and then when he would wake up you wanna watch cartoons any cereal and then they'd have deep intimate conversations in which he would say things like. I'm terrified that the real tiger isn't going to live up to the tiger that everybody's created in their mind. So i think know if you just listen to these stories. Clearly did weigh heavily on tiger. I was gonna make plugging in air. But i'll i'll let it pass Last question for a matthew heineman did you get any pushback. And he cease and desist from tigers lawyers. Did they want us poking and prodding and to all of this now we had a few amicable changes. you know. Obviously we wanted to try to get him on board You know when we first started the project we that his campaign and You know they politely declines Citing existing relationship with another network And then we tried again later you know. In the edit and similar response we knew that that relationship to renew that we you know it was almost certain that we would not get a yes But we you know we have to try anyway. Check it out on. Hbo and the streaming service hbo max. It's called tiger. See part one now. Part two will be available on sunday january tenth this coming sunday at nine o'clock I should say seventeenth at nine o'clock. Gentlemen congratulations on the film. And thanks for stopping by. Thanks for having us much all right. Good.
"mike douglas" Discussed on KNBR The Sports Leader
"What way died with this? Well, at least it's a sports die. Aggression here finally got to sit down. And but I'm still I'm only at the very beginning because damn, it's time consuming its three hours. Excuse me three hours, and it's just there's things going on in life. And haven't you got warriors games to watch you got everyone has to watch. You got Alabama, Georgia to watch Alabama. Pardon me, Ohio State to watch. Go ahead. I haven't really had that moment to sit down and watch. The Tiger Woods, HBO documentary. Yeah, thank you, Coach very much. And I finally sat down and crack the 1st 30 minutes last night. I am transfixed. Okay, The only reason I bring it up because the last image I saw before we had to duck out for dinner last night, But it was him it about age 13 or 14 with the slight mustache on the upper lip. The tough 14 year old stage for most young, right, right, You know the awkward stage So anyway, that's all my ways. It's so far it's damn good in terms of terms of just compelling footage that they found, uh, ominous sort of soundtrack underneath. You know, a little piano here and there, but not cheesy, like kind of a high level documentary. So far it it's stuff you already know like it's stuff, you know, But when you piece it all together, you know, like, for example, I just sent you guys something on text that when you have it all together, she probably don't read that till after the show. It'll knock your It'll knock your blank and sobs already a little rattled, actually. But don't rattle the But Jesus said. Yeah, I sent Copes and there's an investigative journalist named Seth Abramson, who's legit guy. That guy's not. He's not a lunatic, he legit reporter. Parent run together level stuff here. He strung together every bit of evidence from a week ago today and put together a disturbing narrative that completely make sense. If I could, like, kind of play around with a spinal tap quote, Murph maybe a little too much blank, much blanket perspective. But anyway, the point being is eyes that this is a little things here too much. Not too much. Yeah, When you put together all the tiger stuff, you start toe in attention already. You start seeing the Earl Woods the incredible heat. They're always put on a Medicaid. You know, we always Oh, are always the great dad. You loved a man That was early on did he was telling us I That his kid was going to be bigger than grave. This ready for this? Bigger than a Nelson Mandela. Jesus H. That's only a Polly. I got coming your way, literally said this, he said. My son's humanity is so overwhelming. And he will change the world. He will mean more for the world than Nelson Mandela. Oh, my God. Ready? Hey, B. Gandhi. They're stuck. Come on, man. This is legit. Or what? To believe you straight. Come on, wait up. I can't forget that I forgot to finish at the rim SSI. Buddha e Like Gandhi, the best I wasn't ready for Gandhi. The Buddha one got me. I tell you what I'm gonna rock with Gandhi of Buddha, Buddy. I recently was falling asleep to a podcast on Buddhism and and you know, by the way, they haven't figured out the Buddhists they got it figured out. They got it figured out, but there's a It's a long journey of pain that they have to take a poly life is pain. I told you, they meditate on that for years. Dude, life is pain. Sit, sit down and think that's because this isn't the end all be all like this is this is just even get to the next step. So it's you know what they say Copes right now. We're just We're just shells. You know what I mean? That's all. What that whole pondering of life is paying that puts the box in one into perspective doesn't do much. It really does, man. Well, one doesn't look so bad. How great would it be just for kicks? Dude, Just take this one around your next little league game around the batting cage before the game. All the parents will be getting back together. All Murph haven't seen the year. How's everything going? How's your son doing? My son? Always great. He's probably gonna have more of an influence and Gandhi by the time he grows. Yeah, they mentioned is dropping that on somebody with a straight face. Oh, after opening with men, Man. The appetizer is Mandela name courses. Gandhi and the desert is Buddha. You finish with a nice Buddha. Yeah. Okay. So frequent little statues of tiger on their on their mantles. Yeah. It was smiling and waving. Yeah, rubbing his belly. Yeah. Do with that. Look that smile. Just leave belly. Though. You can't be a border cities to lean, you know, it means two and fit. But anyway for all you kids out there who don't know this. This is literally what Earl Woods said about his son. And and I don't know if they chose like selective little selective editing, But they show little moments when he was a kid where his dad was. His dad had him on the Mike Douglas show. He was, too. He had Jim Hill out there interviewing when he was 2.5. And there's little little out takes where little Tiger looks sort of, like, sort of distracted by it all, like, maybe not totally into it, and you start to wonder totally abnormal. He's trying to be a little kid. Also number she's talking to Mike Douglas is one point 2.5 year old Jim Hill. Jim Hill is asking 2.5 year old Tiger Woods, do you Do you love golf? Do you want to like How much do you love God?.
"mike douglas" Discussed on KCRW
"Is right. That girl. How old is how old are you, Tiger Manny to to these two, When did you start? Coughlan. First time he picked one up three months. The question that your documentary keeps bringing back even noting the people he hurt. Tiger Woods have any real chance at any at any kind of normal life ever that would that would develop human character, Matthew Hammond check. You know, it's an interesting thing. I think that when you talk to the people that knew Tiger best They really point to the fact that from when he was two years old, and he was on the Mike Douglas show throughout his entire life His father sort of said that he was going to unite the different races and tribes of humanity. And then shortly after that, Nike kind of Took that vision. And then after that, the public and the media and everybody continued to sort of take all of these expectations and projected all of these identities onto Tiger and I can't imagine how You could live a normal life have a normal childhood. If everybody used would've constantly doing that around you, there's so much focus on Earl Woods of former Green Beret who served his country. Matthew Hide him in. A family friend says that Earl Woods created this little assassin. And speaking of Tiger, and it makes you flinch to hear it. But you go on deeper into the documentary and kind of get to know what he means. Yeah, I mean, I think for better or for worse. Earl Woods used a lot of the techniques and the lessons he learned as a green beret and apply that to a young toddler and the result of that was as you just mentioned, you know, quote unquote assassinate, then wrote someone who Can deal with extreme pressure. It's crazy to think about, but the proof is in the results. And you know there's no question that the training that that Tiger received as a young child as a teenager. Resulted in one of the greatest golfers of all time. The question really is. What did that do to tackle? What does a person Matthew hired him and you, you interview Dina par Tigers first. Guest, serious girlfriend who saw herself as a bridge too. Kind of a normal adolescence. Movies bowling. She says his sweetness was stolen from him. Yeah. You know, I think those No. We tried as hard as possible with this with show to try toe, you know, show people outside of tiger that they've never seen before. And I think hearing from Dina and seeing Videos that she gave us that no one has seen before. Oven, unvarnished Tiger Woods as a teenager as ah, unfiltered, smiling, goofy. Wide eyed kid. And I think she feels like many people feel that that young kid was turned into machine as a young golf champion acclaimed around the world in the process of becoming the greatest golfer of all time. Tiger Woods began to lead an alternative life in Las Vegas. The life he began the lead. There wasn't just conventional unfaithfulness, was it? It was something more. I think that when you talk to the people that That were around him during that time. One of the things that's fascinating that they point to you is that Yes, he was. Absolutely. Having a lot of sex. But ah, large component of it was finding that intimacy and that relationship with with these women, and I think that's fascinating. I don't think that's something that was really covered in the media. Oh, we see the police video of a few years ago. Drugs fighting spinal injuries no less than Stephen A. Smith of ESPN says he's finished. In a couple of years ago. Tiger Woods comes back and starts winning again. And I got to tell you, you see that scene of Tiger Woods, smiling on the golf course in a different way. And holding the hands of his Children as he walks up the golf course, having having one To tell you. I started crying. And I'll bet I wasn't alone. You know, I think part of what this show is to show that fathers and sons I think the interesting thing and the Emotional side of seeing Tiger win at the Masters was really seeing that mirror image of his young son, Charlie, running up and hugging him. As Tiger did years earlier into the arms of Earl. And you can't help But think is how much has this man grown? What does he learned? How is he changed. It's hard not to get emotional seeing the arc of this man, a man that we have all grown up with a man that has been plastered across. Every news outlet, every magazine every newspaper and to see how far he rose, how far he fell and then to see this come back. It's quite an astounding thing to witness. Matthew Heineman and Matthew Hammond. Check directors of Tiger to part documentary soon to be on HBO. Thank you so much. Both for being with us. Thank you for having us. Thank you..
"mike douglas" Discussed on KCRW
"Is sir? How old are you? Tiger Sami, Too, too, too. When did he start with golf club? Uhh! First time he picked one up. Three months. The question that your documentary keeps bringing back even noting the people he hurt to Tiger Woods have any real chance at any at any kind of normal life ever that would that would develop human character, Matthew Hammond, check You know, it's an interesting thing. I think that when you talk to the people that knew Tiger best, they really point to the fact that from when he was two years old, and he was on the Mike Douglas show throughout his entire life His father sort of said that he was going to unite the different races and tribes of humanity. And then shortly after that, Nike kind of Took that vision. And then after that, the public and the media and everybody continued to sort of take all of these expectations and projected all of these identities onto Tiger and I can't imagine how You could live a normal life have a normal childhood. If everybody you sort of constantly doing that around you, there's so much focus on Earl Woods, a former Green Beret who served his country. Matthew Hide him in. A family friend says that Earl Woods created this little assassin. And speaking of Tiger, and it makes you flinch to hear it. But you go on deeper into the documentary and kind of get to know what he means. Yeah, I mean, I think for better or for worse. Earl Woods used a lot of the techniques and the lessons he learned as a green beret and apply that to a young toddler and the result of that was as you just mentioned, you know, quote unquote assassin within, wrote someone who Can deal with extreme pressure. It's crazy to think about, but the proof is in the results. And you know there's no question that the training that that Tiger received as a young child as a teenager. Resulted in one of the greatest golfers of all time. The question really is. What did that do to tackle? What does a person Matthew hired him and you, you interview Dina, par triggers first. Guess. Serious girlfriend who saw herself as a bridge too. Kind of a normal adolescence. Movies bowling, She says his sweetness was stolen from him. Yeah. You know, I think those We tried as hard as possible with this with show to try toe, you know, show people outside of tiger that they've never seen before. And I think hearing from Dina and seeing Videos that she gave us that no one has seen before. Oven, unvarnished Tiger Woods as a teenager as ah, unfiltered, smiling, goofy. Wide eyed kid. And I think she feels like many people feel that that young kid was turned into machine as a young golf champion acclaimed around the world in the process of becoming the greatest golfer of all time. Tiger Woods began to lead an alternative life in Las Vegas. The life he began the lead. There wasn't just conventional unfaithfulness, was it? It was something more. I think that when you talk to the people that were around him during that time, one of the things that's fascinating that they point to is that Yes, he was. Absolutely. Having a lot of sex. But ah, large component of it was finding that intimacy in that relationship with with these women, and I think that's fascinating. I don't think that's something that was really covered in the media. Oh, we see the police video of a few years ago. Drugs fighting spinal injuries no less than Stephen A. Smith of ESPN says he's finished. In a couple of years ago. Tiger Woods comes back and starts winning again. And I got to tell you, you see that scene of Tiger Woods, smiling on the golf course in a different way. And holding the hands of his Children as he walks up the golf course, having having one To tell you. I started crying. And I'll bet I wasn't alone. You know, I think part of what this show is to show that fathers and sons I think the interesting thing and me Emotional side of seeing Tiger win at the Masters was really seeing that mirror image of his young son, Charlie, running up and hugging him. As Tiger did years earlier into the arms of Earl. And you can't help But think is how much has this man grown? What does he learned? How is he changed. It's hard not to get emotional seeing the arc of this man, a man that we have all grown up with a man that has been plastered across. Every news outlet, every magazine every newspaper in to see how far he rose, how far he fell and then to see this come back. It's quite an astounding thing to witness. Matthew Heinemann and Matthew Hammond. Check directors of Tiger to part documentary soon to be on HBO. Thank you so much. Both for being with us. Thank you for having us. Thank you. Summers get away on a picturesque.
"mike douglas" Discussed on KQED Radio
"To these two. When did you start with a golf club For the first time? He picked one up. Three months. The question that your documentary keeps bringing back even noting the people he hurt. Tiger Woods have any real chance at any at any kind of normal life ever that would would develop human character Matthew Hammond, check You know, it's an interesting thing. I think that when you talk to the people that knew Tiger best They really point to the fact that from when he was two years old, and he was on the Mike Douglas show throughout his entire life His father sort of said that he was going to unite the different races and tribes of humanity. And then shortly after that, Nike kind of Took that vision. And then after that, the public and the media and everybody continued to sort of take all of these expectations and projected all of these identities onto Tiger and I can't imagine how You could live a normal life have a normal childhood. If everybody is sort of constantly doing that around you, there's so much focus on Earl Woods of former Green Beret who served his country. Matthew Hide him in. A family friend says that Earl Woods created this little assassin. And speaking of Tiger, and it makes you flinch to hear it. But you go on deeper into the documentary and kind of get to know what he means. Yeah, I mean, I think for better or for worse. Earl Woods used a lot of the techniques and the lessons he learned as a green beret and apply that to a young toddler and the result of that was as you just mentioned, you know, quote unquote assassinate, then wrote someone who Can deal with extreme pressure. It's crazy to think about, but the proof is in the results. And you know there's no question that the training that that Tiger received as a young child as a teenager. Resulted in one of the greatest offers of all time. The question really is. What did that do to tackle? What does a person Matthew hired him and you interview Dana par Tigers. First guest. Serious girlfriend who saw herself is a bridge too. Kind of a normal adolescence. Movies bowling, She says his sweetness was stolen from him. Yeah. You know, I think those No. We tried his hardest possible with this with show to try toe, you know, show people outside of tiger that they've never seen before. And I think hearing from Dina and seeing Videos that she gave us that no one has seen before. Oven, unvarnished Tiger Woods as a teenager as a unfiltered, smiling goofy Wide eyed kid. And I think she feels like many people feel that that young kid was turned into machine. Yeah. As a young golf champion acclaimed around the world in the process of becoming the greatest golfer of all time, Tiger Woods began to lead an alternative life in Las Vegas. The life he began to lead. There wasn't just conventional unfaithfulness, was it? It was something more. I think that when you talk to the people that That were around him during that time. One of the things that's fascinating that they point to is that Yes, he was. Absolutely. Having a lot of sex. But ah, large component of it was finding that intimacy in that relationship with with these women, and I think that's fascinating. I don't think that's something that was really covered in the media. Oh, we see the police video of a few years ago. Drugs fighting spinal injuries no less than Stephen A. Smith of ESPN says he's finished. In a couple of years ago. Tiger Woods comes back and starts winning again. And I got to tell you, you see that scene of Tiger Woods, smiling on the golf course in a different way. And holding the hands of his Children as he walks up the golf course, having having one To tell you. I started crying. And I'll bet I wasn't alone. You know, I think part of what this show is to show that fathers and sons I think the interesting thing and the Emotional side of seeing Tiger win at the Masters was really seeing that mirror image of his young son, Charlie, running up and hugging him. As Tiger did years earlier into the arms of Earl. And you can't help But think is how much has this man grown? What does he learned? How is he changed. It's hard not to get emotional seeing the arc of this man, a man that we have all grown up with a man that has been plastered across. Every news outlet, every magazine every newspaper in to see how far he rose, how far he fell and then to see this come back. It's quite an astounding thing to witness. Matthew Heineman and Matthew Hammond. Check directors of Tiger to part documentary soon to be on HBO. Thank you so much, both for being with us. Thank you for having us. Thank you. Summers.
"mike douglas" Discussed on WNYC 93.9 FM
"Matthew Heineman. Welcome to the show. Things happening. Matthew haven't checked welcome assault as well. Thank you for having us. All right? So we have this issue. You're both Matthew. And you're both Matthew H s. So I'm going to be a little more formal and refers to you as misters have a check and the suicide of time and I hope that's okay. Normally, we were concerned whether it would be okay. So, Mr Amateur when you were making this film, uh, where a person is just so well known. What did you What do you use is your guiding principle so that you could make it different from all the other media available about someone like Tiger Woods. Well, you know, it's interesting. Tiger is probably one of the most famous and recognizable people on the planet. And you know, there's been so much written about him over the years, and so many TV special things like that done, But Ah, lot of it, interestingly, was sort of done in their arms length. It was by reporters who were following Tiger on the golf course people they didn't necessarily really know him all that well. So when that might set out to start making the film One of our sort of Montrose was we have toe talk to people who We're sort of in the living room with Tiger at pivotal points in his life that were, you know, inside the ropes, like his caddie, Steve Williams with him a typical parts of his career. And so that was sort of the goal that we set out with and you know, hopefully, I think accomplished it. Esther Hyman. All the people you landed for this documentary. Even those who point out Tiger Woods flaws his issue. Sometimes his coldness we learned, for example. His long time, Caddy recalls. After years of loyalty, Tiger fires him for working for another golfer when Tiger was injured, yet all these people seem incredibly protective of him. Hmm. Why do you think that is? It's so interesting. Yeah. I mean, I think that absolutely through line and all the interviews that we did, um and even gaining the trust of the subject to even get them in the chair was Divorce were incredibly protective of him. Um, they're almost in a a really deeply sort of maternal and paternal way. Um, I think I think they all love Tiger. I think they all feel, um You know, they want to make sure that has his legacy told correctly. And so I, You know, I think on, you know, obviously, over the years he's been covered by every major news outlet. And glowing terms and not the glowing terms. E. I think you know, they wanted to make sure that his legacy in their mind, uh, was preserved. But, you know, I think at the heart of it all was, you know they even if they're cut out of his life So many people have them. There's this deep deep. No admiration and love to this man. Mr Hammond Check. Tiger Woods has lived so much of his life publicly. What was something that you, you know? No. You realize because you spend all that time, you know, with editors in edit rooms looking at this and screening what is something that was hiding in plain sight? About him that you discovered during the course of making this film. Well, I think one of the things that's fascinating about Tiger's life is you know his father? At the beginning of our film, we saw a speech that his father gives a bit 1996 Haskins Collegiate Award banquet, Basically a place where We honor the best college golfer of the year and his father talks about Tiger as this person who's going to You know, essentially unite the different races in tribes of humanity together. And this is sort of how Earl, his father introduced Tiger to the world and with interesting is that night he kind of took that vision that Earl it had for his son. And and ran with it in the way that they introduced Tiger to everybody else with their commercials. And then the public at large, kind. And, you know, journalists and media sort of took all of that. And these people all around, Tiger. We're sort of projecting these identities. And expectations onto him. For, you know, for such a long period of time, and then you know when he revealed himself in 2009 to be, you know, a human being essentially when the scandal broke. All these people sort of jumped on him with both feet and and then sort of shamed him in the public for so many years. And then the second, you sort of playing golf well again in 2018. All of those and people started building him back up again. And I think that was sort of for both of us. This fascinating sort of relationship that everybody Round tiger has with him. My guests of directors Matthew Heineman and Matthew Hammond. Check We're talking about Tiger. It airs on HBO on HBO, Max starting this Sunday. Mr Hiding in Europe. You know, it's a lot to bring about the influence of Earl Woods that he had in his son. And there's a suggestion the film a little bit that Tiger is, you know very much a creation of Earl's. In this mythology of Tiger when he played golf is a tiny tiny boys is Part of Earl's narrative that he's created for his his son. What Woz? Manufactured about tired woods image from early on and what was something that was actually really true and honest and authentic to Tiger. I mean, you know, I think Part of your question is, you know it's really impossible to know if Tiger Woods would be the tiger was we all know today without the influence of Earl Woods, and you know, Earl crafted Tiger's image. Uh, you know, on the Mike Douglas show in two years old, um he crafted it. You know, through his teenage years, and you know he was instrumental and creating the mythos around. Son, Um There's no question that they had an undeniable You know? Incredibly powerful father son relationship, you know, and that that that they loved each other that they cared for each other. Um and you know, there's no question that you know Tiger wanted to Um, elitist attempt to be You know the greatest golfer in the world as his father did. I'm not sure Tiger Woods ever wanted to be the person that was gonna change the world in the way that Earl wanted him to be. I think you know those are some of the most interesting questions that we explore in the dark. Did you have a check? His father had been a green beret. How did this inform and influence tires development as a competitors? Well, you know, one of the people we talked to was the golf pro at the Navy golf Course near where Tiger and his family lived. His name is Joe Groman, and what Joe talked about is that it influenced the way that Earl shaped tiger as a competitor quite a bit. Um You know, he had sort of a front row seat to some of the training methods that Earl talk Tiger. So these included, you know, trying to distract Tiger trying to Trying to sort of Put some of the things that Earl says he learned through being green beret into into Tiger and and I think that, you know This is something that probably did help Tiger quite a bit when he was on the golf course. They're not. It helped him as much when he was off the golf course is up for debate. Esther Hyman. We learn about his mother, and she's really interesting. She's fierce about her son. We learned she may not be the nicest person she used to make fun of other golfers, ways and stuff. Like that. What was her influence? So much has been focused on a written about her father. What about Tiger Woods? Mom? I mean, I think she similarly had an outsize influence on Tiger. I think she I think a lot of the toughness.
"mike douglas" Discussed on 860AM The Answer
"If we recreate good candidates because we will control redistricting, so for two years, we have to dig in our heels and fight, fight, fight and delay, delay delay and win the argument, recruit good candidates. Get the house back. Maybe the Senate the next cycle and then the presidency. We will have a vibrant presidential race in 2024. Things will be well. I totally agree with you, but I think we need to just move on. 100% agree. That's why I let people talk today and learn lessons and move on, Cheryl. Thank you. Gym in Indiana. Hijo I mean, Joe in Indiana. Good morning, Joe 1 805 to our 1234 talking to a lot of the audience today, Joe. Hey, Joe. Yeah, Well, yes, I'm here. Good morning. Good morning. Yeah, I just want to talk about the election. I believe that doesn't matter. The Democrats or Republicans, they've been still elections from each other for years. Mm hmm. They go? Yeah, This'll wasn't stolen. This is the cleanest election ever. They had more election observers and most lawyers in Georgia. This is completely clean Election. There's like crooked politicians, a crooked they smoke and mirrors. You know, they hide the evidence there is no there is no crime, but there's no evidence. Well, that Z true, Joe, but thank you for the call. This was a clean election. We lost. Ah, David, near Warren, Ohio. Gotta talk to the homey. Hey, David. Hey, Good morning. Good morning to you. If you with the way that looks like the Senate's gonna So today, and Democrats are going to control all three. Branch or the The White House and in this house and the Senate. I want to know what the difference is now between 2016 when President Trump was elected. And Paul Ryan was speaker. Of the house, and we also held the Senate. It didn't seem like Republicans could get anything done for President Trump. We got a bunch that we we passed a dozen Congressional Review Act, which repealed the worst regulation to the last year. The Obama administration. They're gonna do the same thing that Then we tried on health care, and John McCain stopped it. And then we got a massive tax bill. They get one big Billy year under the rules. One big billy year, So I think that they will do immigration and taxes and in the taxes they will, they will institute the new green deal by living huge taxes on carbon That's you. You its prediction. Okay, Well, I hope you're right. Because this this doesn't bode well for our country doesn't bode well for the economy. Oh, no, no, no, no, Thank you. Thank you. I gotta talk to Detective Tom. It may take two segments. Good morning, Tom. Good morning. How are you? You know I've had better days. Yeah, well, it's not gonna get any better for you on Sunday, either. I'll just drop that on you right now. You know, job, Antonio going out. I'm gonna be in front of the TV, but I'm not gonna be. I'm not gonna be confident How dowe ask the best way I can put it. That's all right. I'm taking the Steelers. I'm laying the point. Eyes. It 4.5 still in the line. Move. I don't care. I'm plan just just because just like I'm taking Alabama You're just hurting me, Tom. What do you pick a guy when he's down? I take it here. Your remarks at the retirement party. That I'm not going to be there right to put you on. I didn't go ahead and go to court and revoke your probation for few weeks left left in December. But be that as it may you said, Why did the death? Why did the Republicans stay home and Georgia? Answer me that Because either trump or camp has a hard core of 10%. And I believe Trump talked his 10% into not trust. Linwood didn't help us that whole crack and nonsense, but just assume that the governor of the state has a hard core of 10%. Those 10%. We're under attack from day one by the president and they did not participate, and that's what cost us the election. Okay? I don't. I don't know what if any, sort of your your Georgia listeners who I listen too intently have to go and explain to me how how Camp Iraklis Burger goes ahead and either Doesn't get re called or survives A They're not going to campus to campus to answer your second point. You want to know why the vessel you need a vessel. Trump provided in 2000 and 16 to go ahead and get 74 a half million votes. Who was that vessel? Who was that vessel under the current rostrum? What we have right now. You know if if he doesn't go ahead, and I think there are four, the party can change in four years, depending on what the Democrats canoe there are four would be heir to the president. Uh, Mike Pompeo, Rhonda, Santa's Tom Cotton and Mike Pence. I think the okay I didn't want I didn't want. I didn't want to hear that. Hogan from Maryland. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I mean before would be heirs. Donald Trump, Iran to Santa's Tom Cotton, Mike Pompeo and Mike Pence. But there are a lot of other great candidates and the party may shift We will see. Okay and finally go ahead. Well, I got to do my ad. Stick around. Tom, stay through the break. I wanna hear what you think about what's gonna happen in the streets. Detective Thomas, one of my regular callers to my new listeners in Albany. Smart guy. On the streets of he was an extra in streets of San Francisco Back in the days of Karl Malden and Mike Douglas. That's relief factor that calming. I think, Tom. Take that every day. I do and my long walk yesterday to pass the time. Let me a little bit sore today. But Roy's dr dot.
"mike douglas" Discussed on WGN Radio
"Of the year up Next Chicago's own Tommy Dreesen on his latest book, My Journey From ST Two Saloons to the Stage, and Sinatra, Chicago, Chicago that toddling town. Shit. But also here, Tom now and then with Sinatra hours here Sunday mornings from 6 30 to 9. Tom. How are you, pal? I'm doing real good. Dave, are you doing? I am great. You know, I can't tell you. I read the book earlier this week. And the amazing thing is that I can actually hear your voice telling the stories like literally. I can hear your voice. Well, that's that's a good day. That's really could review. You know what I mean? Because it's just, you know, we we've talked before. I've heard you for years, telling stories on on Letterman and doing stand up on Carson and hearing you on WGN here on so many shows. That when these stories come out like I can hear you telling me the story that that really that really means something. Well, thank you very much. That's how I really wanted to do the book. I wanted it to be my words or otherwise. I didn't want to do it. You know, I had two great cool writers with me, but they just hadn't helped me with the narrative and things like that. But I told him that these have to be my words You know, in the way that I would say them, So I'm so glad you picked up on that. Thank you so much. You know, there's a treasure trove of Sinatra stories in the book, but, you know, I think I forget that you open for so many other great acts in show business, You know. Sammy Davis Jr. Natalie Cole, Frankie Avalon, Gladys Knight, Liza Minnelli, Smokey Robinson. I mean, the list goes on. I mean, you've really you've really partnered impaired with the greats. Yeah, and you left out Mac Davis and Tony Orlando and Dawn and James, Darren and the region being once I said in those days, television was small, You know, ABC, NBC, CBS. So in order to get on TV, you had the work clean. So I was doing so many tonight was working plane doing material that could make Grandma and Grandpa Mom and dad and the kids laughed. Well, singers are always using comedians has opening acts. And in those days and so they always wanted someone that wouldn't offend the audience. You know that would most of those artists that we just talked about? They drew family crowd. So you they didn't want you to work what we call blue. So I all of a sudden became in demand because it see you on the Tonight Show on Dinah Shore on Merv Griffin and Mike Douglas and all those other shows that are beyond and they with agents would call. He's a safe act. Yeah, sure, Fairy. I know that's fair enough. Yeah, absolutely fair enough. And I want to dig back a little bit into your childhood here growing up in Harvey, Illinois, but I wanted to mention in the introduction, and it is one of my favorite stories because you've told me before you talk about traveling with Sinatra to Chicago. It is one of my favorites because of your love for the city, but also for Frank's love of the city. Yeah. You know, the opening of the book is me coming out of were coming at the riverfront Arena in Cincinnati one night after I'd been touring with him for a couple years to an F years. And and we were coming out of different. We finished the show and rush to the jet and, you know took off and we were flying over the venue of people won't even in their cars. Yet we're on the way to Chicago, and they had renovated the Chicago theater. But like $8 million into it, renovating and back to its original design and everything, and he was all excited about that. And he was talking about. We're gonna knock him dead, Tommy and all of a sudden it hit me. Oh, my God. I'm in Frank Sinatra's private jet. And I'm going back home to my hometown where I used to have my shoeshine box down. Take it in that the alley next to and try to catch people that shine their shoes before they went that theater and it just hit me and I was dumb. I couldn't speak. I was all choked up. I've been with him for 2.5 years in that moment never happened again. And I don't know why it happened then. But it just dawned on me all of everything flashback on me the unlike hands and knees and bars, standing Susan RV hearing Frank on the jukebox, you know, attending by when I came out of the service and intending Byron here and Frank and the jukebox Come fly with me. Let's fly way and now I'm flying with him. You know, all over the world. I was dumbfounded and I couldn't speak and he kept talking. And I'm glad, because I think I would have you know a person in tears, and he would have wondered whether I lost my mind or something, but, uh, it this was a moment I'll never forget because he loves Chicago so much. And when we when we got there, of course, um You know, you know, way do the shows and then go down the Gibsons and have somebody that Gibson's and we'd go from there to the pump room at the ambassador Nation. Stay there till the sun came up, and he would tell me stories of when he came to Chicago in the late thirties and in the early forties and how much he loved the city. And you know his two songs kind of town and Chicago, which by the way, and I don't mean them. Dominate this conversation, but One of my big Joyce was watching him in Chicago. I do my show, and then they take an intermission And then about 15. Minutes later, he would walk out to the sold out house without any introduction. He would walk out and he'd look out at the audience and he'd say this is my kind of town in the crowd would go Wild. It was one of those moments that you never forget. We're talking to Tommy Grease in his new book is still standing, his journey from streets and saloons to the stage and Sinatra and this more when we come back on 7 20 w GM.
When Pilots Want to Visit The Beach
"Okay the first one you know. We're all kind of tired of the sheltering in place nonsense, and apparently somebody and the UK also just kind of got fed up with it Let's see this is from UK Aviation News? A privately owned aircraft landed at a closed RAF base without permission on bank holiday Monday, according to the Modi's air safety, information, management system, or I like to call it. Assumes A S I M S. The report filed set. Asked him. Adam's okay assumes. Let's just say. Let's just call it the air. Safety Information Management System has. Okay! That's enough plugs for them. The report filed says that pilots PAC twelve November four one to Mike. Douglas took off from fair. Oaks airfield in Surrey and flew to F- Valley on Anglesey. As. It was a bank holiday or a valley was closed in work was being carried out on runway, one nine, according to the report, the pilot attempted to call the tower frequency several times, but despite receiving no response landed on runway, one nine RAF, Valley's fire crews all the aircraft, and assuming it was in distress, attended the seen as an emergency. It was quickly determined though that the aircraft was not an emergency and the military provost guard service. The MPG s attended the scene to find out what happened. I guess neck with these people would like machine guns. And coming to check things out it's it's a training base in these Sort of government policemen okay so now. I doubt that it would be a different reception at a an American military base I O. K. The pilot told them he had flown from London to go to the beach. When the pilot was informed about the restrictions in place in Wales, due to corona virus. He told them that Oh. It was okay I had it two months ago. Shouldn't have to worry about me. Honesty. The pilot went on to inform the MPG. That he had found the airfield on Google Earth. That's a great way to do your flight planning. Planning. And wait a minute. He also looked it up on wikipedia. He read that it handled civilian traffic as well. Aria Valley is also home to Anglesey airport, which sees daily flights from Cardiff airport only, but has a strict prior permission required system PTR system, which obviously he didn't use. We have now on the screen. A photo of the young Captain Nick and a a matches the very beach that is. In fact soon I think we're GonNa see a PC twelve going right. On why he would wanna go visit that beach because it's full of pebbles is hardly any sand the me, but that that Bank of The bank that is literally the edge of the field in fact, run the top left corner. Tiny. Little Sign, which says administrative offense property
Stephen Brunt on Tiger Woods: What kind of heroes do we want?
"Hey, it's Jordan, and I've podcast for you. Commons is Canada's most popular podcast about politics last season. They tried to answer the question how corrupt is Canada this time around. They're investigating our national addiction oil the currency's featuring host Arshi man is called crude. And it's about Canada's relationship with the oil industry. The good the bad the ugly and the weird you'll find Commons wherever you get your podcasts. So go check it out. I'm going to try to tell you today's story the way all probably tell it to grandkids someday. There was this guy a golfer named tiger. He was the best golfer in the world probably ever, you could argue if you wanted to, but nobody who'd watched him play would listen to you. And if that was our story, it would be a boring one, but it's not anyway, tiger was the greatest he had it all the fame money commercials endorsements beautiful wife and adorable children. But he was also a jerk. There were a lot of stories about this. He was rude to fans who wouldn't give kids high fives or sign autographs. He had his caddy yell at people who was a notoriously bad Tipper. He was a sullen guide to play with. He was robotic with the media, and none of those things mattered because he was the greatest until he wasn't just after two on Friday morning. Thirty three year old Tiger Woods. Drove out of his house alone. His car I hit a fire hydrant then a tree police after that crash. His wife left him. It turned out he'd been cheating on her with dozens of women across the country. His sponsors dropped him. Almost as fast as she. Did Ben details of his affairs came out, and they were humiliating. I want to say to each of you simply and directly. I am deeply sorry for my irresponsible and selfish behavior. I engaged in his knee gave out and then his back and even when he felt good enough to play golf. He was bad at it. And then despite surgeries his backup worse and worse until he could barely sit down without pain. He needed a spinal fusion surgery he had it just so he would be able to play with his children in his old age. He said but afterwards he felt better. So about two years ago, he picked up a club and tried to play again, and he could and he started getting better at it on the rest. Well, we'll tell you the rest, but you probably know how this ends. Then he doubted we'd ever see it. But here it is. Turn to glory. So it's Tiger Woods. Now. Redeemed? What is it about him that compels so many of us to root for him despite his flaws? What does the way we cheer for tiger tell us, but the kind of stories that were drawn to and about the kind of heroes. We prefer. I'm jordan. He's rawlings. And this is the big story. Stephen Brent from sports net is one of our favorite guests to talk to you. Whenever sports gets bigger than the games on the field. Why did everybody I know even with people on my production team who don't care about sports watch golf on Sunday? Well, let's see because the greatest golfer of all time came back under what seemed like impossible circumstances in rows right to the top of the sport in a after being written off for really good reasons over the last several years, especially over the last five or six years because he because Tiger Woods is a ground-breaking figure culturally. The people who don't know the wouldn't know Jordan Spieth of walked up their driveway know, who he is the he's he's an icon and a groundbreaker. So we has significance beyond the game. He plays. And because we all love a good redemption story, whether it's true or not we all want to believe that if you turn your life around if you do the right things instead of the wrong things if you follow the rules. You will be rewarded somehow in the cosmic sense. And for a lot of people. I think that's what it felt like I I'm not sure if the greatest I'm trying to think is this. Latest comeback story in sports history. That's a big one. Right. And I have a personal bias on that. Because I saw George Foreman. When the heavyweight championship at age forty six having been away for eleven years, and then come back as a big fat guy had people laugh Ataman lose nine rounds of a fight Nakagawa the tenth. So that was pretty good. But this that probably just me, but otherwise yet may potentially the greatest comeback story in the history of sport, a nostalgia moment for some people. I yeah, I get creeped out thinking of nineties style. Just somebody my age at doesn't nineties is like yesterday. But there's it's an established a moment, you know, this kind of the big three right there. Right. So within the sport historical greatest of all time, and the redemption narrative, and the and the style jet for a certain generation who remember remember when way way back in those nineteen nineties tell me about that. Because that was something that everybody was talking about right after he won is that moment twenty something years ago. Now when the world saw Tiger Woods for the first time. Do you? Remember the first time you saw Tiger Woods. That's good. I know not specifically. I certainly remember the first master's I remember talking about him in the US amateur. I remember him being out. You know, what I know? I take that back. You know, when I saw him the first time, I was at home as a teenager, a young teenager. Maybe not even a teenager yet. And after school. My parents watched the Mike Douglas show, which was a talk show that was on every day like five o'clock in the afternoon, and that's the famous show where they were L. Whereas whereas all man brought him out as a six year old and he had calls. I saw that show. Do you remember when Tiger Woods became I guess the Tiger Woods that we talk about? When we talk about the beginning of this story. When is lapping the field at the masters. I'm one of those moments when he just did something that when he seemed on another planet when he seemed different from all of the rest when he separated himself and that puts him on a very short list with Jordan and alley and what was it like watching him in the late nineties and early two thousands. Well, the guy so I'm not a golf guy. I have to. So is this I read like, I quit playing golf is fourteen. I walked off the course on the second hole. I hated hated the people here that the clothing, I did everything. So I just laughed. I literally just walked off in the middle of the game. And that's why we're talking you. Because this story is golf, so I hate golf and everything about it. But no, he was he was like a he was a superman, right? He was this. And and again, the nontraditional nature in terms of golf the whitest of sports. Yeah. Those days more so than now. But the idea that you could be, you know, someone other than a rich white kid, and and take on the sports or the way they're with Williams sisters and tennis the same that you could you could kind of just going to throw this back through all of that back in people's faces planned courses that were segregated up. You know within my lifetime. Yeah. There were courses that I remember remember the commercial? I think that Nike did about that. He was the first black person to ever play on some of these courses that he'd been playing. Yeah. I do remember that. And that was you know, again, that's a very so you felt like this was righteous to that that he was kicking down those doors and breaking those barriers and thumbing. Knows that the racist and the racist traditions and golf news, you know, total package now that that said the other side of them was completely unknowable. You know, we saw him. He was again public use a public figure, and he's a six year old to a degree. And he was kind of a brand Ike on it was like, Jordan. He was universal. Right. You could you could show that picture in any continent on earth and people say, oh, that's him. But he was impenetrable. He still is I have no idea who that guy is I really don't you know, has left people try to figure it out. And a lot of very fine writers have taken a crack at it. But I have no idea who what's inside them. Do you think we know him better now than we did ten twelve years ago? I think we would like to think we do again, I think under pretending that we know these people is important to us because it gives meaning to something that's otherwise meaningless which guy just put myself out of out of a job here. But you know, it doesn't really matter this stuff. Right. It doesn't. It's funny. You're like putting a little white ball and a hauler Gorna touchdown or scoring a winning goal and overtime and hockey game. Then add up a whole lot. You know, it doesn't even add up to what your doesn't add up art adds up to you know, with art. You can say the the art is the is what's important. So we will forgive people when number one you don't need to know the personality of the person producing yard you. Appreciate the art as a separate thing from them. And number two, you forgive them their sins. Right. Doesn't matter miles Davis horrible person. Right. Like one of the worst people ever, but produced sublime transcendent, revolutionary, art. And that's enough. You don't have to care about him. But but fleet was that's the thing. It's different. Because this no one's I. Yeah. I know it's you can argue make the argument that it's art, but you know, games come and goes Gore's, come and go somebody wins somebody loses. Like I've been doing. I've been writing about this stuff for a long time. It it. It doesn't add up to a la- beans, but if we can give it meaning, you know, if you can kind of imbue it with meeting and say, there's a human lesson here. And there's a human involved in this. Then I think it kinda justifies it. So I think that's part of we want to turn this into a parable. We wanna turn sports into a parable. That's how we understand the world is, you know, through parable as someone who. Who tries to do that and turn sports into those lessons for us. What did you think when I guess when Tigers false started when the news broke of the car crash and the details of that came out any stepped away? I you know, I felt like Klay like the rest of us. You know, it was it was interesting because it was kind of a flash of humanity in there he'd been so packaged and so protected in so manufactured, and, you know, both as a player, you know, by his father, and then certainly by Nike and everybody else who were in the image business image management business to to to be around tiger. I was a couple of times golf tournaments. And you know, there's no, you know, sense of what was behind this thing. And so, you know, I think that there is well, it's what the gossip industries built on right that they're kind of the Makarius thrill of oh, they're like us, aren't they? They're just like us. As a real under the Nike. Yeah. But especially on a flawed Cuban, right? So yeah, he may be rich, and he may be handsome, and he may be may have this beautiful wife. And but really he's like, you know, the the bad guy down the block, you not like you because you would never know that he was like the bad guy down the block. He has flaws. He's he's he's human in a so, but I I think there's a little bit of glee that goes without sometimes kinda, you know, the the whole shot and Freud thing, right? That you're you're you. I think a lot of people kind of were excited about it. You know, in some ways and said there, you go, you know, you may have thought you were something else. But here's what you really are. But I think it would it mostly revealed was a guy who I again, I'm not going to I wouldn't try and put a framework aunt and say, he was you know, all about golf and then never developed the other dimensions of his humanity. I have no idea. Like, I I don't know who the guy is. I don't pretend. But I think the impulse there is to say, yeah, he's he's a he's he's a flawed human being like the rest of us. And again weirdly to take some satisfaction from it. Well, there is that narrative that we probably like to put on. Sports stars because they're bigger and faster and better and richer than us that they are missing out on an essential part of humanity because they had to focus on this game since they were three years old. And they missed the whole rich tapestry of life that we got. Yes. No. And that's a great point. Right. That is a great point that, you know, the those character lessons you learned by being a really crappy little league player, right? For instance, or how to sit on a bench or being dumped by various girlfriends or ignored by others or just understanding failure that these guys were believed they were impervious to it. But in fact, you know, everybody gets their come up at some point. But again, that's that's kind of a religious theme. Isn't it? It really is. Yeah. Well, it's the it's the new idea of the human experience. Right. And that we all kind of go through the worst valleys in our lives. And it's what comes after that makes it worthwhile. Theoretically, you're radically. Yeah. Theoretically, or you know, it could be just all pointless, which would be another another more bleak way to look at it. We'll how unlikely was the next peak after that Val. Because it wasn't just the personal life scandal. It was like I mean you cover lots of athletes who try to come back from Steph. If I asked you five years ago, Steven what's the chance that I see? Tiger Woods win another green jacket snow slim two years ago. Right. Look, it's not about and it's not about the personal life stuff in this sense. Because look he was quite capable of winning golf tournaments while his personal life was apparently you're Radyr chaotic he managed to keep those things separate as when it was the physical stuff. It's one is back when you know, this guy who could barely bender bent over to pick something up off the floor two years ago the back. You can't swing a golf club with with that. You know, I think physically that idea that no matter how hard he worked his body at broken. And that's you know, way that it was not it did not appear to be able. So he could try as hard as he wanted to and he can live as clean life as you want to do and all of those things, but it didn't matter because this machine was broken. So I I don't think anybody hearing those stories from twenty sixteen twenty seventeen about his back kind of whispers because. It wasn't very public thought. You know this. No, there's no chance right? He can't go out there and compete. We can week out. And then he kind of comes back, I guess about a little over a year ago now and starts playing golf and laying. All right. And even then I don't know about you. But it was like watching an older athlete play out his years with some semblance of what he used to be. But not the same person, certainly the British the British Open right in the open championship. Right. Where you come thought. You know, he's he's not that far off and it's not like, but it's a different year. Right. It's a different vibe was a different vibe in at the masters because you know, the the old vibe is the, you know, I'm going to I'm going to destroy you. I'm going to destroy the golf course, which is what really I'm going to destroy the rest of you in this tournament. And that kind of Uber confidence that he had. I thought the most interesting thing watching that last round was watching him play the eighteenth hole, so carefully so super carefully. Right. Because you know, again, I would have been it would have been just insane you up there and hit a driver at that point, you know, because God knows and and but just. Kind of watching him play a really safe bogey to win that tournament. That's that's not in some ways. That's the anti-tiger. Right. It's just but it was it was smart. It was the right thing to do. And really the way he won that the way you try in that last round was by being kind of dog it and watching and consistent and then watching other people fail around him. It wasn't like he just sees them by the throat they had to fail. So that's a little different. If we're going to do the metaphor thing. Again, he humbled himself in front of the eighteenth hole. And is that can we read into that anything about his new life? I mean, a lot of people talked even before this tournament about how he just wanted to win for his children. Right. And he wanted his kids to see daddy win. And that's not the old tiger. Yeah. And who knows who knows who knows this guy enough to actually say that. I have no idea. I think he probably likes being tiger. Yeah. And I thought the and the chance to be tiger one more time at forty-three. That'd be pretty cool. Right. That'd that'd be an yes, it'd be great to have it. Do it in front of your children? Who'd never really got to experience it in to shut up the nose of everybody who ever said anything about you, there'd be a lot of things that you would take satisfaction from. But again, this is a guy who has programmed to be that that thing that character that kind of golf playing robot from the time he was a toddler, and you know to have that. It's right Thompsons got a new book about kind of greatest the kind of the the nature of some of the greatest of all time athletes him Jordan criminal for the other two are, but is his take on tiger is among his takes on tiger. Now, he's a great writer of golf and a Greg. I was around the sport is you know, that he thinks tiger hated the sport that whole first phase that he he was incredibly good at it and hated every minute of it because it had been forced and imposed upon him. So again, if I'm going to play amateur shrink here, I could talk about them being liberated in this second half and doing it for himself and for his own reasons rather than someone else's reasons and not having the daddy figure hovering over in them and being the daddy himself. And but like now, I'm a sports I'm being a sports writer here. Just extrapol-. I saw that column come into view. I just don't know if it's true, right? I honestly don't I have no idea. I I've no idea we know what lies in his soul. But I don't have any idea. What lies in most people souls? Right. It's we, but we go seeking it. We go seeking that story. Yeah. We're trying to find the meaning we're trying to find the meaning. Yeah. It's and you know, and then tomorrow, we'll try and find the meaning and something else. But this one looked the one thing as a sports writer sports writers people. I was asked to do cheer. We cheer for stories. Yeah. I've been lots of press boxes. Lots of press rooms everybody. Cheers for the story. Everybody got what they were cheering for and you'll end fan through the really that's what fans want you wanna. Yeah. You support your team and you support the uniform. But man, there's nothing like a story is there. Well, here's the question. Then how come I was and probably you were certainly millions and millions of people were cheering so hard for a guy who objectively from the little that we do know about him, isn't that great guy at least hasn't been and cheering form as a huge underdog went objectively. He's one more majors than anybody. But one person and he's one hundreds of millions of dollars because we're flexible. We as a species are very flexible, I wanna feel like we shoot for a real underdog. But we can you know, you can turn it. You know, think about watching the March madness if you have no real rooting interest. And so there's two schools on there. You have no idea who they are. You have no idea who those players are. But you can construct something around that game where when you know, east west North Dakota state beat somebody you go. That's the greatest thing I've ever seen your route informant that basket goes in. And then you go onto the next thing we we do construct stuff like that. And you know, he's like that the idea of the fightback that's really fight back from adversity fight back against the impossible. And the character stuff as I said, it's tricky we could because sport has been a place where we've confused being good at something having great motor skills or winning the genetic lottery, or, you know, working hard or all this up at everybody works hard. Right. We we do confuse I with character. Sometimes those things are blurred might that. You know that he's a character guy. You know? That's that's why that's why he succeeded. Not because you know, he was born this way. A or had some advantages or because there's something else inside. We got we go for that. And a lot of time and the flip side of his we're we're quite willing to ignore the opposite with where somebody could be like Michael Jordan's. Not a nice guy. Right. There's not really any suggestion. That Michael Jordan's a nice go. No there's like with tiger. There's plenty of stories to the contract. And you know, Allie was a terrible husband and a crappy fodder by and large. Now, there's also a political social components rally. So that's you know, it's a little bit different. But as I was saying before about, you know, the separating the art from the artist you can do that with our, you know, Pablo Picasso is bad guy. Right. Really bad guy. But it didn't stop anyone from treating him as Picasso during his work that way. Well, you don't have to cheer for Picasso. You don't and you can see you know, it. It gets tricky with the, you know, the Woody Allens of the world, you know, it gets it gets into some dicey territory there. Maybe I'm not sure anybody's going to listen to a Bill Cosby monologue the same way anymore. But but sport, the two things are connected. The two things are connected, and we'd like to you know, we want to kind of link those two things. Say this guy triumphed or this woman triumphed. Because a yes, they were very compact because they worked harder because they had more of that grit and character in, you know, Royal jelly, we we really we seek that. And I'm not saying, it's not true. But I think it's more that we needed to be true. Or we want it to be true sometime like it's a chicken or the egg did tiger win again because he became a better person or because he's winning again. Do we just think he became a better person Ingo? Yeah. And his backup better. Yeah. That to actually could swing a golf club dad like he may he may be a great guy now and totally, you know, Saint Paul on the road to Damascus had a moment where hang on when everything's clear down. And I'm not going to do all those terrible things anymore or maybe just got healthy. I don't know. We'll never know. But the, but the, but the former is way more compelling than the lab. Thanks, Steven bye. Stephen Brennan from sports net hates golf, but loves narrative that was the big story for more from us. 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