17 Burst results for "Miguel Cotto"
SI Boxing with Chris Mannix
"miguel cotto" Discussed on SI Boxing with Chris Mannix
"I have all the respect in the world for dark James. The job he's done with Charlotte with Errol Spence, remarkable. Now with Frank Martin, he's an excellent trainer. The common thread, though, with those guys, is that Derek James has had them from a very early age. And when you have guys, you know, when you can mold guys from the beginning, it's a lot different than taking someone that is not a finished product as in Ryan García, but someone that's been fighting a certain way for a long period of time. And it's pretty set in those ways. Changing those types of fighters is difficult. Historically has only been a handful of trainers that have had levels of success doing that. Emmanuel Stewart was one of the best at it. I mean, he was kind of one of the better guns for hires out there where he would take a fighter, figure out what's wrong with him. Usually it's a heavyweight and he would do good things with him. Freddie roach has a great track record for that. I mean, a Pacquiao being a high profile example, Miguel cotto, Freddie Koch's a lot of him later in his career. I think teddy Atlas has done some good things with fighters in kind of one off or two off situations that he's taken on. I don't know what dark James can do that. I mean, I watched the Anthony Joshua fight. I didn't see any kind of market improvement in Joshua. Yeah, it was only one fight and he'll be back in camp, getting ready for the next one, but I'll need to see it to see if there are James can be that guy with AJ. The other thing is that I kind of worry about Ryan García when he went with Joe goosen. Like at that time, Joe goosen was kind of a cool name, right? He was on Fox.
SI Boxing with Chris Mannix
"miguel cotto" Discussed on SI Boxing with Chris Mannix
"He knows his strategies. It's just, you know, when you lose, you got to blame someone. And that's how it is. That's how it is in boxing. Sometimes fighters and trainers, especially new pairings, don't work. I mean, the manual Stewart is one of the great trainers of all time. He was oil and water with Miguel cotto when they trained together. Freddie roach has worked with some great fighters. But him and Vladimir Klitschko wasn't the same as him and Manny Pacquiao. There you go. Sometimes it just doesn't work out. I do wonder if buddy and dillian are the right match. But to spin this forward, we're gonna get dilly and white versus Anthony Joshua. But I don't walk away from white Franklin thinking white Josh was gonna be competitive. I mean, even if it's a diminished version of Joshua, I think he's just gonna walk right through Dylan white. I don't know if you I think you're wrong, no. Really? No, I think but because Dylan white always. He's always in a good fight, even in his losses where he came up short. Maybe you accept for the Tyson Fury one, but again, Joshua, against wasn't really competitive fight against Joshua. But he was slinging the punches. He was yelling in them. It was an entertaining fight. There was interesting moments in that fight. And what was his other loss? It was Tyson Fury. Joshua, but that he came back and starched in. So and he was winning that fight against vivekananda. Exactly. So he's only lost on the championship level. So I think it'd be fights Joshua, you're wrong. And I think he brings that motivation and everything he learned from those championship losses and experience against a vulnerable, mentally, mentally vulnerable fighter in Joshua coming off a loss. We don't know what he's going to have. Yeah, man, I like that fight. I think if this was 5 years ago, I probably agree with you. But I think at 35 years old and having been knocked out in two of his last four fights, I think there's not a lot left, at least at the high level from Dylan white. A better fight this past weekend was Regis pro gray against Jose zapata. Progra for some reason has been just ignored by the major promoters. Like, can't get a deal with matchroom. Can't get a deal with top rank. Can't get a deal with golden boy. Before there's a pay to fight Sergio, he had fought one time in the last three years. Three times in the last three years. And I've always wondered why. This is an entertaining American power puncher. Like, why was this guy not welcomed into the club of top guys at one 35 one 40 and one 47. Then he goes out against the PETA and shows me why I'm right in a way because it was entertaining. He dominated and he had a spectacular finish at the end. I think right now. And one 40s is one of the best divisions in boxing. I think right now you can make the argument that the best guy at one 40 is Regis pro gray. He was nip and tuck with Josh Taylor, lost the close fight over in the UK against Josh Taylor. And then he goes out and just stops zape, a guy that's won some pretty high level fights over the last few years. Is Regis pro gray now, the man at one 40. No, he's number two. The man is Josh Taylor, the man is the man who I can be. The man that beat pro girls, I mean, it was a very close split decision. But look at Josh Taylor, another guy that's inactive and kind of going under the radar as far as coming off a bad win over cataract. We'll see but look at who he's fought his last 6 opponents have been undefeated opponents. What is a Jack cataract defeated Ramirez undefeated? Undefeated, Regis program defeated baron chick undefeated. That Martin character undefeated, Victor postal. Come on. That's a great, great resume. It does. You give me another undisputed champion or another champion that has that kind of a record back to back to back undefeated fighters. You're not getting it. So pro gray is the man at one 40. He's now a two time champion, and I agree with you how he's flown under the radar so long. I don't get it. I think Luther Bella promoted him to Bill Adam. So he did have a major promoter under a little bit one time. Lose a very big promoter, but he doesn't have the power anymore that some of the network TV deals. That's what it comes down to. Okay, the network right. So you know, there's so many networks I just think pro gray is he's a man that I really like I really like program, not only is fighting style but outside the ring the way he carries himself the way he's an excellent champion, I just think he's one he's a southpaw, a lot of promoters kind of like pushing other they try to avoid southpaws. It's hard to match them. And he just a damn good fighter, man. A damn good fighter that enter on a probably market of a move them well, but after this performance was a paid up, you can bet that people are going to allow everyone damn right damn right line up for the opportunity to fight him. And it's my understanding that José Ramírez and his team do not want to face pro gray in their next fight. I think there's going to be something a little softer for José Ramírez, but offer a while at this point. But if he passes, then you could be looking at pro Greg it's KFC mo Lopez in the first half next year. Daffy mo Lopez is next in line as mandatory challenge. I talked to a female this week and he said, if that fight is offered to him, if he beats sando Martine in a week, he will take that fight. And I hope he's right. I hope he top rank and everybody wants because that's another great thing. And it's a fight that can be made because progra wood is a free objectively afraid. It works. Okay. He's a free agent, so show them the money, ESPN, and top rank have the money. And him will be explosive. That would be a great fight. I mean, yes, sign me up for that one. And be a full bull title fight now that pro agrees a champion, so teal female is going to have all the incentive to actually have a chance with a hard punching very good southpaw that's now a champion. So I love that point. Bring it on. It's such a great division right now because you've got the guys that are there, pro gray, Taylor, Ramirez, Lopez. Then you've got the guys that are going to be there in the next 6 months to a year. Ryan García, Devin Haney, maybe some others at one 35. It's a fantastic division that I hope these fights all get made. I think they can be made because the politics are a little cleaner with some of this stuff. Yeah, but the question was, is he number one? And I say, no, he's not. Ruru is number two. Which is fair. I think it's fair. He lost the fight. And I don't think there's any real disputing we lost the fight. It was very close, but he lost that fight. All right, let's talk about some of the fights we have coming up this weekend. Tyson Fury is over in the UK taking on Derek dessert. He's gotten a lot of heat for this fight, Sergio. Like, he's gotten some criticism for taking on chisora. I don't really blame him for it because he did want to and tried to make the fight against Alexander usuk but usuk said, you know what? I'm gonna wait till early next year. Let's some injuries heal. There were discussions for a fight with Anthony Joshua, but come on. Making Joshua against fury in like 6 weeks didn't make any sense. You need Joshua to get a win and then next summer, if fury's undisputed at heavyweight and Joshua was on like a two fight winning streak, that still once again the biggest fight you can make in all of boxing. So I don't know about you, but I didn't have a real problem with chisora as furious. Yes, you did. Yes, you did. We did it in the episode of jabs when you asked me who should Tyson Fury stay busy with. I set your sore and he said, what, for what? I'm going to bring it up again. You can find it. But on an episode of jab in such a sora makes no sense, is that absolutely it makes sense. He always comes to fight. I mean, that's what you saw. People love him in England. He can pack out a crowd. It's a stay busy fight better than being inactive waiting for us. And I think some unknown Germans. And I did not shit, chat, past tense, shat on that matchup, and you said no, chasseur was old, he's already. He's already beaten him twice. No one wants to watch it. Now you're recanting. That's a word recanting what you said on jab. I'm gonna have bob a producer bring that up because on jabs, you shet on that fight. I said, no, man, stay busy, stay working. People love to soar and make sense until wilder Joshua or usyk become available and the gypsy king gets at that another a side a side versus a site. Fits the bill. You can have bob find the clip on your computer, which doesn't work. You're like hansel from zoolander with that computer.
SI Boxing with Chris Mannix
"miguel cotto" Discussed on SI Boxing with Chris Mannix
"Do it. So that's a dangerous one. One question about that. It does seem like, though, if Dylan white wins, we are barreling towards AJ versus white two. Eddie Hearn says that AJ is going to be back first quarter, march, April of 2023, which would put him in line to face white for 5 months after he beats Jermaine Franklin. Is that the right fight for AJ in your mind a rematch with Dylan white? Yeah, I think that that's a perfect fight for Asia. I think Dylan is going to get the best out of AJ. We all know that there's history there. There's animosity, even though those guys, you know, their countrymen and they support it one another, but when they're facing each other, there's a lot of hate there. So I think that, first of all, doesn't has to look somewhat even if he's down on a car. If he scores a big knockout against Franklin, I think that builds that fight even more. Now, stylistically, I think that's good for AJ coming off fighting a guy as a skilled as user fun and God is going to be right there in front of you. Well, giving him the opportunity. He can score a big knockout against a guy like Dylan. I'm not saying it's like pays out like that, but I think this is an actual perfect opponent. Big name, history there. Back home in London and a type of style that AJ can thrive with. Yeah, I couldn't agree more with that. I think AJ needs a fight that really gets his juices flowing and a rematch with dilly and white, especially if white beats Jermaine Franklin convincingly would do that. The build up to that fight would be strong there'd be a lot of trash talk and Dion white while being dangerous is not the same kind of dangerous as Alexander usyk. He's not going to be as slippery as usyk as technically skilled as usyk and I think it is an ideal fight for Anthony Joshua. What does concern me? Not to veer too far off here with Joshua, but what does concern me is AJ with this idea that a lot of people are going to train me. That never works. You need a familiar soothing, convincing voice in your corner. And I don't love it. It worked for Devin Haney. I mean, and his father's approach and album with different guys. Like his father, he was bringing one guy down. He brings in Ben Davison. That works out well. He brings in you well, Judy. It brings a lot of guys. And I actually give Bill haney credit for doing that because he knows what he doesn't know, and he's willing to learn as he goes along, which is not a lot of fathers were willing to do or are willing to do. Ryan García's father is another example of kind of being willing to cede control to a certain degree. But for a guy like AJ, you got to understand, like, this guy has been on their microscope since he won an Olympic gold medal. Everything is scrutinized. If he does something wrong, he has the whole world saying you need a new trainer. You're not doing this right. You're not doing that, right? A lot of pressure on this guy. I'm not saying that, you know, he shouldn't have one trainer. I'm saying the guys trying to figure it out, man. He is such a big name in his country, and so much on his back. He just wants to get it right. And he's trying to figure it out, man. But sometimes trainer fighter pairings can be a disaster. I mean, Emmanuel Stewart was one of the great trainers in boxing history. I remember when he teamed up with Miguel cotto, what a mess that was back in the day. That didn't work. And Miguel cotto, who looked like his career was finished after that lost Austin trout, he winds up pairing with Freddie roach, reignites his career, gets several more big wins, makes a whole bunch more money. I'm just saying. He had to go, but he had to go and try those guys out. I mean, he didn't know that they were going to Joe well with, you know, he was going to jail that well with Freddie and it happened. So AJ, that's what he searched for. But did he try to find a guy? He looked better in the rematch with us. I mean, I would say with Robert Garcia. I would stay with angel Fernández. I would actually go to Mars. I like that. I like that idea. We had a conversation with Garcia and he told us in vague. He said, you know, for the next one, I want AJ to come to arsenal. I want him to be here in this country. So that's not a bad idea. I'm not saying he should shift, you know, camps. He should stick with him for the next one. I agree with you. In the UK, Anthony Joshua can't walk down the street in most major cities without being recognized in San Diego, they think he's a middle linebacker for the Chargers. Nobody knows. He's just an anonymous figure. And he needs that. Maybe you lose it. I agree. I think he does need that, and I hope he comes to that conclusion. He was a pivotal time for him. He's really one loss away from it being over at this point. Like, I mean, I think music is fine, but white level loss away from it being just done. And he's one knockout away of being back on top in a possible fight with wilder is what I see next for AJ should he get past Dylan. If you do that in New York, I think. Go back to the place of your greatest failure where it all kind of unravel for you, face Deontay, wilder, do a big problem. I like that idea. We know the Brits are coming for that to New York. So I like this there was all Brits in that. Exactly. Check out aqua that his own boxing show, weekdays over on the zone app DA zn dot com as well. I always good to catch up. I will see you later the next his own fight. No doubt. Enjoy your holiday, Chris, thanks. And when we come back, my conversation with Regis pro grey. 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SI Boxing with Chris Mannix
"miguel cotto" Discussed on SI Boxing with Chris Mannix
"He did, and now here he is, like, with all the belts at one 35 with money and with the chance to fight big fights, moving forward. I mean, I just hope I wish, really, that more fighters took this approach and said, look, we're not going to tie herself to one network, one promoter, want anything, we're just going to look for the biggest and best opportunities. Because Keith, whenever guys do that, it often works out at the highest level, like Floyd Mayweather did it. Miguel cotto bounced around from promoter to network for years towards the end of his career to get the biggest fights. Now Devin Haney is doing it and I hope more guys look to that because Devin Haney is to me an example for how not just young fighters but how all fighters should operate. Yeah. And in terms of broadening his fan base and everything too. Now he's now fighting on ESPN, which has a reach. I mean, you know, obviously it's available in 80 ish million homes in the United States. And his fights against cambos is both fights were shown on the network. They were not behind a paywall. I mean, you have obviously have to pay for ESPN as part of your cable package, but you didn't have to you don't have to pay for ESPN+ for the opportunity to see the fight. So, you know, it was a good move on that. And that sense, too. And now let's just say if he goes and fights facility lomachenko, now I do think if he fights lomachenko, I believe the fight will be on ESPN pay per view. That's what I've been led to believe. From the very beginning, that was the plan. Reasonable, reasonable. But he still will have had three big fights. And for which he was paid a lot of money, of course, but like you said, it's not always easy separating from a promoter in this case, a streaming service that had done right by you over the years and sometimes fighters for all intents and purposes should always do what's best for them because when someone knocks Devin Haney out next year and then he gets knocked out a couple of times or whatever and no one's going to care. So you got to make maximize your earning potential while it's there. He's still very young, obviously he's 23 years old, but yeah, and the one thing I would say, Chris is I do think that if he fights lomachenko, which everyone seems to think is going to happen because I do not see a lot of losing to Jermaine Ortiz, but assuming that fight happens win or lose, I would see Devin Haney moving up
SI Boxing with Chris Mannix
"miguel cotto" Discussed on SI Boxing with Chris Mannix
"He could fight. He could call out him and go fight Caleb Plant to plant winds up eating Darrell. Darrell and his next fight, David Benavidez. That's a much riskier fight, I think, for golovkin, but that's certainly available to him. I agree that there's a lot at stake for Canelo. But I have a bit of a different take on golovkin because I've been reading a lot and hearing a lot this week about no matter what happens in this fight. Gennady Golovkin is going to walk into the Hall of Fame on the first ballot. I kind of sort of shrug a little bit at that because look, he's got a great record, he is undoubtedly one of the most entertaining fighters of this generation, but when I look at his resume, I see Daniel Jacobs, I see David lemieux, I see Sergey Derrick vento. I don't see a depth of quality wins. And I think that, to me, that is a variable when you start talking about fighters and their candidacy for the Hall of Fame. I want to see three, four, 5 quality, high level wins. Now, I will acknowledge readily that for 6 years, he chased all the top guys longer relics of chase Felix stern before he came to the U.S.. He's been chasing the top guys forever. Sergio Martinez avoided him. Miguel cotto avoided him. Canelo even, for a couple of years longer than people wanted, didn't want to fight him, or at least Oscar De La Hoya at that time didn't want Canelo fighting golovkin. But in the last three years, he has had opportunities to burnish his resume. He could have fought Android. He could have fought Charlotte. He could have fought Jaime mongeau, which would have been a reasonably high level win. He didn't. Look, it's a business. He clearly made the right decision because he's going to get paid in excess of $20 million probably for this fight. But there's a consequence for that. And it gets taken into account that when can have the opportunity to fight all the big fights he was clamoring for early, he didn't do it. And that, to me, that is going to be a factor when Hall of Fame consideration comes around.
SI Boxing with Chris Mannix
"miguel cotto" Discussed on SI Boxing with Chris Mannix
"But I think in his mind, he absolutely needs this win just to actually retire rapid. I don't know if he will. But I believe for himself, this is like he needs this win. Canelo also needs definitive win over him as well, though. He can't have another close fight like he did in the first, the second type. And if it is as close as the first second, there's a very good chance it won't go against them. Maybe, you know, we finally get that makeup phone gennady gets it in a fight where they probably thought no one gets a close win. So I do kind of feel like this would be like, you know, gennady would be best served to just go all in. And however close or wide, get this win, to put that stamp on his career that he is a truly an all time great. And justified, you know, really ten years of hype surrounding his career. I think if he wins, he's a lock from a 100%. He might be a lock, some people might have him a lock already. I don't, at this point, because it's just resume. You are what your resume says you are. It's as simple as that. You beat top guy. I don't care if you have 5 losses, ten losses. If you've won a series of big fights, you belong enshrined amongst the best. Golovkin, for reasons that, again, we're not entirely his fault. Guys we're ducking him. He won't take less money to fight guys over the years. Whether a Sergio Martinez or Miguel cotto, all those guys, he's willing to do it. Couldn't get those fights, but this is an important fight, I think for Gennady Golovkin's legacy, no doubt about it. All right, speaking of press tours, the press tour podcast now. Anthony Joshua and Alexander usa completed theirs this week with stops in Saudi Arabia and in London to promote the rematch between Joshua and usyk for the three heavyweight titles that usyk took from Joshua last year. Among the bigger topics was Joshua's corner, which will include Robert Garcia for the first time. Here's Garcia on partnering with AJ. You know why it's a big challenge. I obviously, you.
SI Boxing with Chris Mannix
"miguel cotto" Discussed on SI Boxing with Chris Mannix
"Well, with me and my team, my dad, you know, Karen Duncan and it wasn't really art, you know what I'm saying? I always spent on two times, so short time I always showed me love and it was put me in great position. So why not, you know, and we'll see where this journey tickets, you know? I can't wait to continue to keep shining and performing for my fans and friends and two time and I'm ready to be the new face of showtime. I mean, that's a good nickname for you. When I watch like Canelo, I know candles are on another level, but when I watch Canelo kind of bounce back and forth between promoters between networks just going for the biggest fights for years, I watch Miguel cotto do the same thing, bounce between promoters, just getting the biggest fights. I often wonder why guys don't do that. Why they don't take advantage of the flexibility you have being a boxer. Why do you think that is? Why do you think people are so committed to tying themselves in to one side of the street, so to speak and not maintain that flexibility? I'm not sure. I can't speak on, you know, the guys, you know, everybody have different motives and different things for these situations. So I don't know, but I like the way that I'm coming up and I like the way that, like I said, showtime, and put me on a platform, I appreciate those guys and that's been, you know, always showing me love and things like that. So I don't know everybody got their own way, but I like my way. You know, I'm gonna continue to keep shining rock with short time. I bring it up only because the boxing fans have dealt with Crawford Spence doing their dance for years. At one 47, around your age, you've got yourself, as you know, Virgil Ortiz Connor Ben three, really exciting, welterweights, who bring a lot to the table, who are all eventually probably going to be fighting for titles. Are you at all afraid that because of the different promotional outlets, different broadcasting outlets that those fights will wind up being talked about instead of actually happening..
The Corner
"miguel cotto" Discussed on The Corner
"Canal is big, like a big boy. Always has been. He went into dwarf me a comedy dwarf Miguel cotto. When he fought at light heavyweight against COVID, it didn't look that much different. He just shorter. So the speed will be the difference. Canelo's upper body movement has always been a problem. But I think that fight is still going to be super competitive. People think canals is going to wash them. I don't see that. And I still think that was the best fighter in the world. But I think triple G, when I keep saying you need to have a guy that has, I don't give a fuck in them, and I'm just going to throw punches. Like David Benavidez does, those are the best guys to deal with Kelly because if you try to outbox and all you're going to lose. That's what Kayla plan did. Got him fucked up. Yeah, like sooner or later, he just going to breathe the brakes off. You have to put pressure on Canelo. You have to make him think about what he's doing. Otherwise, if you allow him to operate with no pressure, 'cause who cares plan did and he did well early, but if you allow him to just look at things and figure shit out, it's going to beat you up. But if you're coming at him, now he's got to fight you off of him. That's what triple G did. That's why canele switched his strategy in the second fight. He didn't like that pressure. He had to put the pressure on triple G because he's like, maybe triple G can't fight as well off the back foot. Still a super close fight. This can not look triple G three like Nell said in a recent interview. I think we're caught. As for the fans, you damn right it's for the fans, but it's a dangerous fucking fight. Regardless of what you say, it's dangerous. I can't wait though, danger. Instead I get past bald. We've also a tough fight. The volatility to fight about things is going to wash them. I think if I had to go all the way in on it. And I know we got like two weeks before. But I'm feeling like a decision. It's just so big. Oh, yeah. It probably is going to be decision. You're right. Like, I just don't know how. But I mean, can I stop colab it that way? But what was COVID? Right. You know, like, it's just, it's hard to think that his power transfers up that high. If his power is legit at that weight, he's Manny Pacquiao. Because how far up in weight classes, can you go and still beat the hell out of people? I mean, the thing about Canelo is like the power is there, right? But it's the punch placement is what makes Canelo different. Like when he commits to the body, the way he sings punches into the body, like you go back to the rocky field and fight. But I can feel it any shit, but you watch how he throws those body punches. It was devastating. The way he set up covalent for that finish was devastating. If baval makes a mistake, vivo is very technically sound. But if you make some mistake and I was going to capitalize on it. And you have to be very sound technically to not get hurt by Canelo. Daniel Jacobs, fought a really good fight against Canelo. It didn't make too many mistakes. He just couldn't catch it. It can all just out boxed. Caleb Plant made a mistake. Can elevate him pay for it? Billy Joe Saunders made several mistakes and Canelo was just wanted to beat him up. That's the other thing we can not just want to beat you up. He's going to beat you up. Set him up. But we've also got a piston like jab, devolved strong. There's a lot of things that the ball does, but you know it will probably be careful with them. It box them for 5 or 6 rounds and see what he's got. And then he'll make a decision if it involves not doing anything to hurt him, then you'll step on the gas. Otherwise you'll probably outbox him. That was like the Calvin Smith fight. Yeah. Well, I mean, he just.
The Corner
"miguel cotto" Discussed on The Corner
"Yeah, I mean, Xander just got to watch. But you know, I have the same question about Xander as I always do with most of these guys. Like I've seen me punch in the face. And he hasn't really been punched in the face yet. But the skills are there. He passes the eye test, we see what he has. And yes, he is a big kid, but he has to be careful about moving up and wait because the things you can do against smaller guys. You can't necessarily do against bigger guys. You got to grow it. It's not just a man body. It's having the man's strength. Canelo is always big, and he was beaten up little guys. But then he figured out how to get manpower. And now the game is different for him. He sees everything different. So very curious at how Xander acclimates the bigger size. But when you watch him fight, he just he's got the goods. He looks like he has the goods. He's one of the best prospects in boxing. If you haven't watched them, watch them. Yeah, same thing, one 54. It's like, I guess it's your same case with Virgil. It's like, how long do you keep up one 54? But they kept canola at one 47, one 54. For a good amount of time. So, I mean, can I move up until after the Floyd fights? He has like 24 when he moved up. So yeah, like beat up on smaller guys, I guess why you can. And it's easier to cut the way when you're younger, right? So fuck it, I guess stay down until you don't have to. Yeah, you stay down long enough, you manage that weight. I mean, look, Canelo fought Miguel cotto in kodo we had no business being at 54. I mean, I guess he did, but he wasn't the same guy. And that'll still was like 20 pounds bigger than him on Fight Night. You know, you can find a Mira Khan. Looking back, it was like, God, damn, you want to get that kid murdered. You fight guys. You maintain that weight. Even though you're big and you want to see people move up, it ain't the same. People don't take punches the same. People don't give punches the same. You can't move somebody like Xander up because he hasn't been hit by a big guy yet. He hasn't been hit by a big puncher at a lower weight class yet. So keep moving them along. What is Xander? Is he 20 yet? Not 19 and a half. His birthday is September. You have not plenty of time, but you still got about a year or two a year and a half before you got to go, all right, we got to find some different competition. That becomes interesting because a year say he stays at one 54 for a year and a half. We then have undisputed champion, probably one defense, and a fighter who vacates all the belts, right? Then it could be one of those cases where it's like, do you just, now you're sitting comfortably in the rankings, maybe you just grab one belt real quick before you move on, and then now you can be a one division two division three division champion, 'cause that's something Canelo does. Just like yo, let me grab one belt here and then I'm gone. So it becomes interesting. To see how they manage him. And again, if he did that state for another year and a half, and got a shot at one of the 154 belts, it's still put him as a 21 year old world champion. Ridiculous. I mean, David Benavidez was 22 when he won it. And I was still like, what the hell? These guys are just so far along at these ages that it's nuts. And the main event, Edgar balanga, who's 24 years old. Main eventing. Steve rose is better than people think. Some people don't even know Steve rolls is. There's only lost his to triple G and he got caught with one. You look pretty decent for the first two rounds of that fight. And then triple G is triple G but Steve rose isn't an easy test, especially for a fighter who just got touched up a lot. Just took his first knockdown of his career in his last fight and towards bicep in that fight and done this first major rehab of his career. This is dicey. I don't I disagree. Here's why. Steve rose is 37 years old. Yes, Steve rose got knocked out by triple G Steve Ross is really fun at anybody. This is the perfect fight for belonging to get his knockout street back. Pick it back up. I think Steve rose is a guy who he's there to be hit. And because he's only lost the golovkin, the perception is, he's a tough opponent. He's 37 years old. And for long as he's 24 and they didn't match him up to match him up tough. They matched up to get the finish. And he'll knock out Steve roles because the commonality would glove kin is more appealing than the actual opponent that's in front of you. If he beats him and he's like, oh, well, he knocked him out faster than triple G did. That's why this fight is being made. Steve rose is going to get beat up in this fight. But he's not a bum. So if balanca doesn't come on his a game, yeah, Braun is going to get into going to disses. And then we're going to have to if Roland can't get Steve rolls out of here? We're going to have to start talking about berlanga. Because that'd be a law of belonging has been his knockout power. In the first round knockout streak and everything else that goes along with it. But now he needs to develop skill because if you can't get guys out of here, you have to be able to box. You got to win by points. You can't begin touched up. And he got touched up in his last fight. Can't let that shit happen. So it'll be interesting to see how much belanga has progressed. But I don't think this is an opponent where he can lose. I think it's an opponent that he can actually look bad against. But I think he gets to finish you. Somewhere in this fight he gets finished, maybe early. His move to Vegas seemed to center him, he's talking a lot about that. Working with Mickey bay and camp, looks like Mickey bay, he has one more fight that he's preparing for, but he's getting ready to go into that role as a trainer. I know he's worked with Devin Haney a little bit, just him like spots. Interesting to see what Mickey bay is is a trainer. Because he seems like a very bright guy in terms of box. Yeah, I mean, there's a lot of guys who fought and I hate when people say, well, he wasn't that good as a box, I was just going to train. Because I'm watching people fight who are better than me. That I see mentally that I wish I had the athletic skill to do 100%. And I think Mickey bay, he has a great box of mine. He's a smart guy. So he could be a great trainer. Yeah, so this is a great, great case study for that. Personally, I thought, oh boy, you trained Deontay Wilder. Did a phenomenal job? Who JD's? No, in this last fight. Against fury. I forgot old boy's name. He moonlights as like a nudist in him and his girlfriend, everybody. Luke Scott, man. But no, being in the corner, being their fight, like Lee Scott gave him great adjustments, gave him great information while there was just physically too tired and worn down to.
The Corner
"miguel cotto" Discussed on The Corner
"Tight. You're a likeness. Yes, talking about. What's the college kids have? Names of likeness. The only reason these two takes on the show is because they are these guys baby mamas. Oh, yeah. No, you ain't making money off. Dre, I didn't get a divorce for a year and a half because the only sticking point was that she would not give up my last name. How do you agree for everything in the divorce except the last name? And I said no. So that's serious about it. Because you married her. She has every right to that last name. Hell no. In the end, we are divorced. She came up off of that. She's a remarried. She goes somewhere. Then I say that politely, again, we me and her cool Natalie. Don't send me back to the old me. But I understand where javonte and Adrian may be right now in the process. Seeing this and being like, excuse me? The main mama might make more money than Adrian broner she end up on the show. Maybe less Adrian's fault. Yeah, he and he has too many baby mamas. He'd be crying on the ground. Don't leave him with a story to tell. That's the rules. You leave him with a story to tell? Hey, man. See, this is why I'm glad I was over at the crew for the baby shower. You were the wife together like 19 years, 20 years, something crazy. That's the way to go. If when we get our reality show, she came back out to you at all. Get our own reality, so not a lot of journalism Las Vegas. You think it's about go to Africa? It's going to happen. We now have a great cast of characters. That we will keep off air. But some people are very interesting right now in life. And we'll all get filthy rich with everyone in Vegas. So that'll be fun. All right, let's take our last break. Come back, recap last weekend's fight real quick. Talk about this weekend's fight and then get everyone out of here. We appreciate you guys. Sticking with us through this odd and random tangent. Don't go anywhere. We'll come back and talk more boxing. All right, let's wrap this up by talking about all the events this weekend, but Drake, let's start last weekend. So we had Lea wood fendi's title versus Michael conlin over in the UK, Colin brought the Irish fans out. The atmosphere was crazy. It was amazing. And I'll start by saying this. It is going to be hard. And we're only in March, not even in a it is going to be hard for a fight to top this this year for fight of the year. No matter if I was nuts. Insane, I mean, Michael Collins on top rank and all this stuff. And but I've never been a huge, huge believer. I'm Michael Cohen. I have understand he got robbed in the Olympics. But even like his pro career, I was like, all right, he left a little bit to be desired for me. This was his best performance I've ever seen. And from him. And it still wasn't enough. He's coasting into the middle of the rounds and I fight. He gases somehow. I'm not even like Lee wood was really punishing his body. I think common just punched himself out, got too excited. Went for the knockout too many times after getting the knock down in the first round. And then Lee would weather the storm, they made adjustments. I mean, Ben Davison in his corner, there's one thing he can do is an adjust to at least make it not be hit. He started getting hit less leeward to open up his hands. And by the tenth 11th round, he would then drops, conlin in which I thought it was a slip, or whatever. So now they're getting really close, leading into this final round. And we would say, no, I don't need the judges, man. I don't need to see this go to the cards. He hits Kotlin, wobbles him with the right hand, Colin decides to just go against the ropes and shell up. And at that point, Lee, what's snuck in the perfect right hand right on the button. And the guard was pretty close. Kotlin was really guarding himself well to try to recover. This punch hits him on a button and he goes out of the ring, scary sight, the day of the fight. And goes out of the ring, paramedics have to come, but 12 round come back, knock out for Lee wood when he had to have it. Many people thought he was losing that title without a knock out. Let alone knock down. And amazing performance for all involved common fine in the hospital. He wants to run it back. It's hard to tell him no. The fans loved it. People intended love to sell more. I think it's the biggest fight going forward for these two guys, but damn, that was going to be hard to top this one. Because that knockout was just incredible. Yeah, I mean, listen, mid conlin is a guy who has been great offensively, has some deficiencies defensive and late in the fight he tends to fade. Lee wood, for those haven't watched wood, go back and watch the zoo can fight, which is right before this one. We got a 12th round knockout. A guy that looked like he was gonna get dusted after he got dropped in the first round, Colin drops him with the Apple. He was left hook in the first round. Drop some pretty hard. Even the commentary is like, all right, Conor's looking to finish. Even though he's not known as a finish that late knockdown was good enough to it felt like it was going to be a rap. But as the fight progresses, you see, wood just gets stronger. And he's taking the punches better. And he's opening up his offense. And conlin can't hurt him the same because he got him fresh, you know, pretty much dry in the first round. Now he's gonna warm doubly Woods as kind of not even walking him down, just trading with him, getting the bedroom, it was plus with that atmosphere is going to be hard to defeat that for 5 of the year. That atmosphere is nuts. Yeah. And everybody could feel the momentum slowly changing, but it wasn't like, say Miguel cotto Antonio margarito won, where Kota was putting on a boxing clinic in margarita just kind of punished him down the stretch until he finished them. Now, you know, obviously loaded gloves and all that bullshit. But like you saw koda wearing down because margaritas big reach. Like he was landing these big shots when koda was landing two and three, margaritas landed one and it was just having it was just busting coto up. This wasn't that. This was you were just watching a fighter will himself back in the fight. And even as you go into that 12th round, you feel like, well, yeah, the tide has changed, but I don't think con is in danger of being knocked out until he was. And the knockout, him falling out of the ring is like a dead body. That's, that's a sight. That's a sight. And yes, thank goodness McConaughey is okay. But that's just an incredible fight. And would having two back to back 12th round knockouts, the only problem is he's probably gets dusted by the rest of the upper half of the 140 pound division. Even though one 40 so wide open right now. These are WBA regular champion. The whole 140 pound division is just anybody's anybody who's taking. I don't think there's anybody in the top 8, everybody has a lost, pro gray. Yeah, just about everybody's loss. With the expectance that Taylor's moving up to 47, would make a four fun fight. I just, this was, if you didn't watch it, go out of your way to watch this fight. Go out of your way to watch fight and don't watch it with anything else on in terms of audio. Let that audio rock and play it loud. That crowd ain't nothing like a Ukraine K crowd. That crowd was nuts. Well, it wasn't still at I just had to check. What's the like 26?.
The Corner
"miguel cotto" Discussed on The Corner
"Ten to 12. So with his own pay him ten to 12? No. I don't know. I mean, matchroom U.S., no, they could use another stock. No, Eddie, her will not pay him 12 million for a fight. He won't. Made triple G a good amount. But that was in the hopes that was a zone thing. And Eddie came in, like, triple just not signed a match. Okay. So I know what cage I keep saying like that. But if I'm serious girlfriend, I come in and say, I want 12 million as a one off as a free agent. I'm like, get out of here. I'm not giving you that. I need to have you. You need to be mine. And if your mind, I'm not paying you 12 million, because I have nobody for you to fight. If you beat Virgil Ortiz, wasn't it? What am I doing? Who am I to put you in there with? I know what PVC is doing. They're looking at this and you're like, good luck. We don't need you. We seriously, aerospace ain't gonna be here much longer. He's going to 54. Yeah. Keith Thurman, yeah, it could be a good fight. It's like a really good fight. It could be a great fight. I ain't paying you 12 million for that fight. He's gonna wanna have. Right. Keep going on 50, 50. A sign money? If you put numbers on the table, not even Keith, Hal, will be like, no, because you're not signing to me, and I'm not signing a 34 year old fighter. It could be on the backside of his career for a ridiculous amount of money and you can't draw. You're a great fighter but I don't care. You can't draw. Terrence would come back and say, I can draw give me an opportunity and I'll show you I can. No. I'll sign you. That's an adviser. And I promise you I can do it. No. Because the hardest fighter to a market in America is a black fighter. Period. Because unless you're a criminal, I mean, infamous. Let's just be let's be honest here, right? Because one of the things that Terence brought up was that bob was saying, you know, Floyd Mayweather shoots up cars, whatever. Floyd has had a checkered past. He has domestic issues. If bob bought that, he's not lying, they exist. They were accusations. Whether true or not, depends on who you were around. But Floyd is infamous for his antics and things he got in trouble for. He went to jail. Yes, right? But he's also the most popular fighter. Sean Porter is the nicest guy I've ever met. Very nice. He don't draw? It's hard to sell Sean Porter. It's easy to sell Mike Tyson because Mike Tyson is the Robin Givens and all that. It's easy to sell that. It's easy to sell Floyd Mayweather because Floyd Mayweather took it upon himself. The black fight is the hardest fighter to sell. The hardest. In comparison to everyone else, take has some checkered path. I mean, tank is young with this checkered past. Yes. Terrence Crawford, you've had like, you're 34. If you haven't sold by now, what's gonna change? You don't have a country for me to sell you to. The opponent has to be the selling point. And that's the hard part because I've only selling against Keith, you only selling against Carol at this point. Canelo fights me or you tomorrow. Yeah. He's still drawing. Right? So the hardest fighter to market in sales a black fighter. And if you have not done yourself any favors, and you're asking for Canelo money or 12, $15 million, and I'm Al Heyman, I'm like, no, I'm good. Nah, prove you could do it on your own. How about that? How about you start your own promoter promotion company? And show me that you can fill up an arena. That's not in Omaha. That's gonna be tough. That's my point. So how do I justify this cost? Lest he signs with shave for. Look, I mean, which really I saw Regis in Dubai? And Regis signed the shaver. Yeah, with probability. And Terrence was out there that same weekend. I mean, it's probably a couple of weeks. A lot of money? Yeah, I think Terrence might be like a pro bellum guy going forward. I mean, the tea leaves. They don't have any inside info, but if you read the tea leaves and everyone who is in Dubai for that thing and seems like propellant probably is going to pay attention Crawford. Again, what do you fight? I don't know who that's the dilemma. I think Terrence Crawford is a phenomenal. Maybe. Because look, the fight that could have been made and it probably won't be made now is Josh Taylor versus Terrence Crawford. Yep, right? But if I'm bob bear, I'm like, I'm not doing business with you. Like, what's it worth? How much do I have to pay you to do design doing that? Yeah. So that's why I think Terrence Crawford's gonna be like one of these stories where he's like, he was a great fighter. But he didn't end up fighting everybody. He was like Miguel cotto fought everybody, right? Sean Porter fought everybody. Terrence Crawford got a lot of holes on his resume. Like, Errol Spence, if Keith Thurman looks good against Mario barrios. And for some reason aerospace is just hanging around, they can fight. That fight could finally happen. Yep..
The Corner
"miguel cotto" Discussed on The Corner
"Not see her versus Magna Carta Holy Grail. I kinda like Magna Carta Holy Grail better. Nasir sucks. Yeah, so lost tapes too versus four 44 44 the damn near classic. And then king's disease versus everything is love. Kings disease. Yeah. So I mean, I gave Nas 5 would argue he gets 7. Yeah, if you really wanted to, still ten to 7, if you really wanted to do it that way, I would never mix it up. No, 'cause if you mixed it up, it'd be a boat race. Yeah, 'cause if let's just say it was the first battle, let's fantasize how this shit could happen. It's just dumb. But let's say Nas gets on stage and performs nomadic, right? And I'm Jay-Z. Am I performing reasonable without? No, I'm not. You don't have performing. Kingdom come. I'm taking that L. I'm saving my reasonable that. Like, what are you nuts? You're just gonna take the round off. Feel out the opponent. I'm taking the round off. You play illmatic. I would never play anything that's close to my best shit. I am playing kingdom come. That's gonna take away. No, yeah, 'cause there's nothing that's taken away from that. No, because now guess what happens. Nothing on this list be reasonable doubt. After illmatic, nothing else. I'm not one album. Nothing. So it's like saving my reusable doubt. Like you play you're still mad. All right, cool. I'm playing blueprint. Good luck. Yeah. Yeah, that's the day. It's like, yo, you're not beating blueprint. It's still magic. Still manic was really good. Great. Really good, not better than blueprint. No. And Jay-Z has a lot of those where it's like, okay, what are you pulling out next? 'cause you don't got shit that's the black album. No, it's like, all right, what are you pulling out here? Oh, you're playing Nostradamus. All right, I'll play blueprint two. We'll give it a toss. Yeah, and I'll still beat you. You know, I'm not gonna unload my heavy guns on you. But outside of illmatic and not this recent stretch albums, which based on this couldn't even be included, that you're not beating Nas is not beating Jay-Z. So you wanna hear my Manny Pacquiao comparison? Yes. Well, this makes sense. So I said it. So now this is the Mani Pacquiao hip hop. Some people are like, I get it, and I was like, I don't even know if you do, you're disagreeing with me. Cool. Some people, they kind of saw it. Some people say, I don't know what the fuck you're talking about. Here it is. Well, Manny Pacquiao arrived on the scene. In the states, he had already had this career. So I'm going completely bypassing his early career in the Philippines. He has a flyweight and all that shit. But his rampage through divisions was Nas illmatic and it was written, right? Like him just clobbering people was like, oh my God, he's unbeatable. That's how he looked. Manny Pacquiao looked like the people was like, oh, he's gonna fuck Floyd up. Do you remember those years? Yep. That's illmatic was it was written. Then, from the firm, I am Nostradamus. Eh, stillmatic. This is middle part of Manny Pacquiao's career. Where Manny Pacquiao wasn't doing Manny Pacquiao things anymore. He wasn't knocking people out. He was his life he gave his life to God and all these things happened where even though it is part of Manny Pacquiao, but he wasn't doing the things that we expected him to do in the ring anymore. He was still winning fights. Still relevant. But he's fighting Jesse Vargas, right? Going to a decision. Like what the fuck are you doing? That's what Nostradamus I am, QB finest, all of them were pretty much trading water. And then he Nas is nasir? Is Manny Pacquiao fighting Jeff horn without Freddie roach with boot boy in his corner. Because you thought just like Nas thought, I don't, you know, I don't need primo. I don't need Salam Remy. I don't I'm just gonna everybody thinks I should work with Kanye. So I'm gonna do this shit with Kanye. Manny pack is like, I don't need Freddie. I'm gonna go fight this guy, Jeff horn in Australia. I should still beat him. I do boo boys good enough, right? No, he's not. You learn real quick, like, nope. That you were completely out of yourselves, making that Nazi or album. And many was completely out of himself. To the point where I was like, man, maybe you should retire. Right? It was like to that point when nasty was like, eh, maybe you don't have it anymore. And then, Manny Pacquiao, fought key Thurman. After Lucas batiste, right? Yeah, fuck key Thurman. Sorry, fuck Adrian Brown at first. And then he was back. He fought each brother and we were like, oh, that's the old man. Nas dropped, king's disease. Oh. That's the nods that we know. You fought Keith Thurman. Knock down Keith Thurman in the first round. That's king's disease too. Oh. Yeah, that motherfucker's good. But the thing is, I did not include the Floyd Mayweather fighting here for a reason. But the thing is, is that when Manny found himself again and was looking really good as an older version of himself who looked like he enjoyed fighting again? That's what Nas has been doing with kings disease and magic with hit boy. The thing is, though, as good as it is, he'll never reclaim the illmatic magic. They will never be the Manny packet that beat the shit out of Oscar De La Hoya. That person's gone 'cause he's older now. But the fact that he enjoys what he's doing makes this, this is the Manny pack part of his career. The middle of Manny Pacquiao's career that ten years he went without a knockout. After he knocked out Miguel cotto, he did not knock anybody off for ten years. That's crazy. That's bananas. I mean, Floyd went on like a no knockout street too. And here's one knockout was not necessarily impressive. No, but at the same time, but we never expected that out of Floyd, right? We knew what Floyd was. He's a tactician. Manny, illmatic, was Nas and then we started getting shit that was not illmatic. And not that we necessarily expected it, but we started getting Nas du and radio shit. That's what I felt like the middle of Manny's career was. Like, what are you doing? Why are you letting Jesse Vargas survive? Why are you letting Joshua Claudia survive? What are you doing.
SI Boxing with Chris Mannix
"miguel cotto" Discussed on SI Boxing with Chris Mannix
"Maybe he's not a will have to just. Let's see how it all plays out. Yeah showtime simply could move forward with romero involved in this event particularly this event as you pointed out it was against a fighter that has been accused of assaulting a woman it is being promoted by a fighter and ex-fighter who went to jail for assaulting a woman. This would have been the assault bowl so to speak of women and that would have been justifiably. The story all week long so showtime simply couldn't have gone ahead with it. I've just been a lot of time keith. In the last few days. Because i spoke to the victim. She seemed very credible to me. She seemed very passionate about moving forward with these charges. I spent a lot of time thinking about how. Boxing views women. And i can't get around. What seems to be a fact to me. That boxing doesn't care what women think because there are no repercussions really any repercussions for fighters who assault sexually or otherwise women like. They're just art. And this is not specific to one platform. You go back to mayweather against miguel koto. That fight was allowed to move forward even after mayweather agreed to a plea bargain in that particular case. His jail sentence was pushed back to after he fought. Miguel cotto that fight was on. Hbo pay per view. You you look at what was it. Two years ago now. Cannella versus sergei kovalev on disown. Kovolev was accused of assaulting a woman in california that was rarely brought up during that promotion. It was by some people occasionally but it wasn't a big part of that promotion. Now you have germont. Monty davis who is one of the faces of showtime boxing. There's a video you can easily find on the internet of girardi davis gripping a woman around the neck and dragging her out of a basketball game. I can't i just. I maybe it's too simplistic i don't think so but some might say it is but boxing has just sort of decided. It can't monetize women. They're not worried about the revenue that women might bring in so as long as the backlash isn't really strong for men. They'll keep putting these guys out there. I just i just feel like whether it's networks states promoters. There's gotta be.
Native Opinion Podcast an American Indian Perspective
"miguel cotto" Discussed on Native Opinion Podcast an American Indian Perspective
"But it in order for to at least for this me as an indigenous man not speaking for everybody else can i in order for my hackles go down prove it prove your proclamation which means you get into a room with miguel cotto cordona. Who's from my state. Who is your secretary of education and you put into place a plan that starts to correct the history. Erasure yep see the defecate or get off the porcelain flower. One of the two because what happens is the proclamations are made okay in. They're all forgotten about like a week from now. Okay how you enforce. Action is taking those steps and yes. You're going to get a fight for sure okay. But you've got to take the steps. That's what matters. They did so here in connecticut and they tied they tied to innocent of. Hey if you're not going to remove sports mask mass of an indigenous mascots representing your your institutions. You might have a problem getting some grant money. That's a positive step. Hiring more educated indigenous educators. You know you know there's organizations out there somebody that i have a good respect for is chris. Newell does a lot of work in this space trying to Get more indigenous education into Some of these institutions more on the on the probably more on the college level but But they do talk to High schools as well without further. Do i want to introduce the reason that you are all here. Today presumably which is our speaker. Chris newell crystal is executive director and senior partner to walking nations for the abbey museum in modest which many of you will probably know as bar harbor maine and he was born and raised in here. Forgive me if i am not getting this directly. But.
SI Boxing with Chris Mannix
"miguel cotto" Discussed on SI Boxing with Chris Mannix
"But i believe it's easier to say you're on a team but he's in charge net now like i mean every great me one maybe one or two but every almost every great fighter in boxing history has changed coaches. Like where would lennox lewis. Be without a manual stewart. Where would vladimir klitschko manuals to it. Where would be without freddie roach. You wanna go later in their careers. Miguel cotto extended his career by like three years by working with freddie roach. Rosie changes happened. Sometimes they need to happen. It's not personal. It's just professional. And you guys you guys mentioned jerry cooney earlier. I talked to jerry this week. And jerry was beside himself at the strategy that was utilized by or lack of strategy utilized by. And that. like if. That's your game plan going in against the final goo sick. I don't know if you deserve to keep your job. After that barack well i would say that. I'm not against changing coaches. Um when i'm against this saying he needs a change coach without knowing all the variables. I was at that fight and yes anthony joshua performed very well but i didn't get i'm not privy to see what was going on in the corner. I know nothing. I didn't see it on tv. So i know nothing about what was going on in the corner. Maybe joshua just didn't perform well and didn't stick to the game plan like every box does. Sometimes you know what i mean even when you win. Sometimes it trainers like but i. I didn't tell you to. Do you know what i mean. So you wouldn't have cut if you if you didn't if you listen to me so i think that if the if the corner is a problem. Let's say that was their game plan and he was dorosh front rock. Did you watch it afterwards. That's it now watch. Also i'm saying is that i believe his i. Res is probably his fault. You know what i'm saying like they gotta take ownership to to fight has gotta take ownership to but if it was the game plan of the coach then i feel like you should add somebody maybe like the problem is the problem is like joshua has never fought like a true big man he is. He fights middleweight. Like he sort of goes in there and he's got his head. He's he's fighting. I think it's all about confidence when he when he tells martin. That joker was confident. When he fought dominick brazil he was confident and he knocked those guys out with a smirk on his face. Let's it's a little bit easier to be confident when you're fighting guys that don't really have much of a chance of beating you. Who was the real deal coming in. Now charles martin came for the big giant paycheck. He got his ibm title..
SI Boxing with Chris Mannix
"miguel cotto" Discussed on SI Boxing with Chris Mannix
"What's up corey. Not too much. I know we're We're divided by a border and potentially for a long time. So i'm just happy to see you virtually chris. I'm used to seeing you every week. I'm like the. I am the toronto raptors right now just away from candidates not. Yeah that's right. I'm the tampa raptors at this moment. Far far away all right. There's there's a lot of want to get into here. But i gotta get into the strangeness of the beginning of this week where you had some big fight announcements and they're only big because the names are big and the names are also. Oh get ask delahoya. Announcing he was gonna come back on july third. That was followed by the out of nowhere leak. That miguel cotto and one manuel marquez. To forty plus former world champions multi division world champions were going to fight in an exhibition you also have who cesar chavez junior fighting anderson silva in something. I don't know how that's going to be on. The undercard of his father senior was going to do another exhibition match down in mexico. I wrote this week over. Dot com that i mean look retired fighters wanting to fight again and coming back. It's not new. I mean sugar ray leonard. Did it four times before he eventually was sent into retirement by hector camacho but it seems to me that there's a lot more of a surge of it now that this is this is becoming a real thing where you know dell tyson kind of started it back in november and now we have delahoya and now we have coda marquez in subsequent months if we see more forty plus fifty plus eurofighters coming back in and getting back into the ring in some capacity. I guess let me ask this abroad. What do you make of all this this this surge in retired fighters announcing comebacks. Well i you know. Exhibitions involving retired fighters has never really gone away. I mean travis senior. You mentioned will headline that card with your son fighting anderson silva he's been fighting exhibitions berry regularly since he retired and in even going back way way. Further there was a time when the heavyweight champion in the world fought on more exhibitions than he did in real fight. So that park isn't new. But i think there is something to the times that we're living in that is leading to the surge in popularity of these types of call. It old man fights you look at what has been popular entertainment wise. Just broadly because boxing is entertainment. It's a sport but it's an entertainment medium as well but i think the currency of nostalgia is higher more valuable than maybe it's ever been. We've all been locked down for a very long time. We're longing for happier simpler times and you look at the things that have been popular over the last year year and a half things like the versus battles where you basically get to older musicians..
SI Boxing with Chris Mannix
"miguel cotto" Discussed on SI Boxing with Chris Mannix
"I don't know what your other option is. I guess you could find a way to rekindle the wilder stuff but the reason and you know this threes in the fight in december didn't happen was there was no money for it like who is going to pay for tyson fury versus inferior opponent ex when fury wants to make it has been making a good amount of money. It wasn't that they couldn't come up with logistically with the way to make the fight happen because with no crowd. You couldn't make the fight happen. You can financially get to a place where top rank and frank warren empty k. Could afford with that type of finance. So this is like it's like it's it's all in our go bigger. Basically go when you look at the gates. I think it was seventeen million dollars. The gate for tyson fury john to was. Yeah it was around. That wasn't it yet. So once you've got that gates. I remember when i remember when people like floyd mayweather think floyd mayweather ended up owning forty three million dollars for fighting. Miguel cotto will ago. A member tokens bert randolph. Sugar at the time of great mental for both of us may rest in peace wonderful wonderful character to bear around on on fight weeks once once a fighter is at that level. They're not gonna turn up for five million bucks and that's probably or even three million bucks. Maybe there was a limit with no crowd to to what what could be what could take place and i do think tyson. Fury is ruined. I mean he's been fairly critical of his promoters. he's ruining the fact he didn't get run out in december. That's a massive advantage friends in joshua huge. And and you know all of us over here and you've been over and you know how good and how vibrant the british crowds saw when they go to wembley. You've been to wembley you up fraught groves wouldn't you. Yeah i mean. It's unbelievable when that stadium is full of nine hundred thousand eight hundred thousand people. It's almost unreal. isn't it. you know and we all wanted that. Fight to be at wembley stadium with nine hundred thousand people in it. But i think they will create a stadium in the middle east somewhere site. Fees will be big enough from the money. That's over there to be able to put on events of this magnitude. And i do hope we get the second fight in cardiff in the winter because wembley does not have a retractable roof. Which card if the millennium stadium has and that can still seat ninety thousand. And i do think we'll get that and hopefully we'll both be there for that. Hopefully the first fight is twelve rounds and bloody controversial because that will have an even bigger fight when they meet again or it's drool or whatever happens but we just got to see the two guys fight because you know the way the sees of parties and you've got a whole sway. The people think anthony joshua has the power and experience now to do it and another load of people who think the tyson fury is just too good in the office for for for french. New joshua to Basically pin fury down a knock him out because for me joshua when he goes for it in a fight is still as good a finisher as lennox lewis was. He's one of the great finishes we've seen and we often don't give antony joshua enough credit for what he's done on the job and i know that you have the arguments that we can have it now. I think fury's resume is better. Because he was the first to be klitschko in after that decade of of of his reign.