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This is a head gum podcast. Mighty what some shit heads. Welcome back to another episode of high and mighty. It's me you'll vanilla one. Boy. The number one. Boy, sorry, I watch the stars born this weekend. Then number one Johnny g joining me as always the high and mighty studio by nearly silent co host, Arthur Gabor's, Arthur give them a shout out. Not he's not currently in the room because the room is filled with energy. And you know, what I forgot to ask before we started. How the fuck do. I say your last name guys joining me in the high and mighty studios. First time guest funny, accomplished freak podcast, comedian, former Viner. Meal, bradley. You've said it's me three times. And I can't remember full. It's great. Oh breed. Oh, like Plato like Frago. Can you do this to me Brady all right meal? Brady, oh my God. In the middle of it. I realized I got scuba starting my scuba certification this weekend fucked up my equalization, and I can't really hear out of my left ear, and I'm realizing I'm like screaming into this pocket. There's also they are cutting down upon tree outs. I wouldn't. So maybe I should close that when I'm going to climb over me L inappropriately literally it's getting louder. Thanks for listening to the podcast. You fucking losers. Clearly put in so much effort meal Nassar coming onto thank you for having me. What a great midday treat Tuesday afternoon is what it is. I don't even know anymore. We met doing your podcast punch-up jam we had met at head gum events. But then I we really added on your podcast jam very funny podcast is by far one of my favorites was so fun. This amazing story about singing Kokomo. You're like third grade class as your chosen reward your elected Renard hate singing. Absolutely. To stop picturing that since taping episode it just curiosity pops into my head just this image of you, just being like, Jim. A little little white kid and sweatpants and a yin and Yang puff. Puff paints sweatshirt to a full class of black and Hispanic people singing Kokomo. It just like I feel like I mean their second graders. Really just like colors a lot of the John Gabor's coloring book for me get to learn a lot about that stores. So many pages with that one story requires attention so much that willing to do something. He hates to get tighter class to look at them. I thrive on attention so much. I had no idea show boated from birth. I have truly been like a a ham. I got the skin tone and girth of ham. The odor's parallel on similarly. Similarly center the same section of the candle store, get your pork and beans candle. Your John games Capers, Ken, sativa, and sausage. Sand. Maybe it since Eva sausage in San by the way, that's my fucking like lounge singer album. That memoir. Sean caper story. So we were trying to decide on topic to chat about and the listeners probably already know what the topic is. Because they download it. Unfortunately, you know, what let's not say that's not a blanket true statement for the listeners of this podcast. Really? I think I got a lot of people who have shut in. Have a lot of people who have newspaper over their windows. We're on Twitter asking you guys. Newspapers on your no shit heads shout us out. If you have newspapers taped over all your windows. Tinfoil over all your windows reach out to me. I'd love to send you a high and mighty teacher. How does that rank with people that have like sheets permanently like taped to their windows sheets? Could potentially be like college dudes. That's why there's a big tiger. Yeah. Where's the college? Agoraphobia or meth factories. Yes. Three Tigra one of my neighbors in this building has like Brown paper taped overall windows, and I'm assuming it's because she's a hoarder based on what I see her carrying in. And how I never see her carrying anything out. This is so interesting does laundry every day. She listens. She is a sixty five year old. Joe chose my mom's name. Yes. Luckily for me, she'll never be listening. Looking for you. It sounds sad. It's really sad. I get this show. Putting now. Oh, I have to get my attention. Elsewhere. And I've had to since I was heart. I didn't come here cry. What's the point? No, one comes here to cry. But they always leave crying that sounds way more. Leave with the special victims unit. Wait one nothing. That's also in the John Gabor's, candle, your, friends tears. Not his tears, although I did cry a lot. I do cry a lot. How did we get here? How did we get here? Newton. Now. This is talking heads cover. How did we get here? Talking about crying and asking myself, we're both from island. Yes for highlands and actually islands on opposite ends of the country. We're realizing like even just heaping like, oh our cultures are so yes, yes. There's something about east coast islands and west coast islands like no common ground. Oh, yes. So let's let's let's hash this out. So what's the name of the island? You're from orcas island, orcas island w Pacific northwest island off off Washington, right? Yeah. It's not the islands near Seattle. Which people usually think it is like, oh, I know Bainbridge. No, no. You take a flight to Seattle. Then you drive for an hour and a half north. Okay. Then you take an hour and a half fairy. That's where I'm okay, that's weird. It's full they traveled to get home. I should've had Jason man's focus on this episode. He's also from. Weird small island my islands. Big Mile Island is pretty big in as towns, and it's close to a major city towns. No, it's big. No. It's a big. Yeah. Yeah. It's actually a Long Island. So orcas island is an hour ferry ride from mainland e era half. Yeah. And how many people are on orcas island? So it's recently become way more popular than I lived there. But when I was there, it was like, maybe around thirty five hundred that's crazy. That's crazy. That's as many people. I don't know because that's less people than went to my college. Oh my God. Listen and small school. I don't have any concept of small this is here. This is the first time I'm hearing your college was bigger than my entire community. And I didn't even go to I went to a small colleges. So that's great. So let's let's talk about what growing up on orcas island is like so you don't go to the mainland often. If you can help the fair, it's really it's a six hour drive and you have to coordinate with the fairy schedule. So if you're trying to Seattle that's like not really able to be done in one day. Right. The Seattle for the day because you had to have to catch the catch the seventy m ferry and then you catch like the ten pm fair. And is it a ferry that can bring cars. Yeah. Yeah. It has like I don't know the past is pretty big. But yeah, you can you can also miss the ferry or the ferry can get into overload. They recently introduced ferry reservations. Now, you can book a spot on the ferry but until like three years ago you. Had to drive, and wait and hope and hope man, and there's only set number of ferries per day. And it changes four times a year to keep memorizing when the ferry is. Okay. So this is like real island. This is what I want dollars every time drive on Jesus. It's so insane. That's so this is the life. I wanted growing. I wanted to be a weird island freak did it. Yes. I did let malls I had malls island hop lights. That's okay. So you had none of these. But people had cars on the island. Yes. Okay. Yeah. There's cars and there's like our highway, but the maximum speed is like forty miles an hour. It's two lanes is one high school for the whole island. Yes. Although I think they opened. Yeah. They opened a Christian school who Jesus right before I graduate, even amongst three thousand people there's going to be fucking Christians people. There's really really rich people that are like, well, I wanna live in this place. But I don't want my kid to public school. Right. The despite there being only a public school here. I have to build a place for my kid to go to school. Not kidding. I think the guy that built it was like the founder of Oakley's or something. Oh my God. So it recently became a wealthy destination. I'll just say Oprah just bought a house two months ago. Oh, okay. But an who's Oprah? She also goes by. I know you're talking about the magazine. The harvest lady on its degree chick from a wrinkle in time. What am I only knew Oprah from a wrinkle in time, which by the way, I watched on a plane, and is I saw it. Well, it's garbage. But you saw it, and I commend. Hey, I'm woke. Equally baffled Americans. Let me see their shitty movies too. Oprah just bought a house there. But when you were growing up was it was just like upper-middle-class like when you were going up there because it's still like you have to have a kind of job where it's okay to be on that island for the most part. There has always been like a lower income group of people just desperately trying to make enough to stay there. And it's really fucked how few resources there are for those families because now it's become a destination because Amazon's Seattle. No, right. That's what I was assuming was the big boon. Is Microsoft also in Seattle Amazon's Seattle. What's it called the Boeing in Seattle? Right. That gets you to some seven figure seven plus figure. And also it's like Paul Allen was up there forever. Like. You're living in Seattle. You live in the biggest house in Seattle Everett. And then you need your house. Exactly. We have on the Hampton becoming that. So then I'm sure as probably happened in the Hamptons, you told me that locals are getting priced out like the kids growing up can't afford to live there anymore. Even Montauk Hamptons happened in like previously ready. That's all money, Montauk is being as edging maternal. Sunshine guest, one from tunnel sunshine, the one from every Billy Joel song ever, Montauk is the end is this point, right? He ain't Montauk Long Island. Yeah. I I know that it take the Long Island railroad eternal sunshine. Does case you didn't catch. What John did he just pointed to me? Dude in Portugal at a restaurant in Lisbon, someone someone was mentioning being from Long Island. And I went did you say you're from Long Island. And they were like, yeah, I'm like well, can you show me on the map where you're from flexed bicep for and this old woman is like sixty she was like can I take a picture click like I was just they were everyone was cheering typical Long Island woman thing to do is can I take a picture of this thing? I thought vacation. Yes, it's weird that she asked permission at least if based on the the the sixty year old Long Island woman that I have the most information on is my mom, and I makes us she takes a lot of fucking photo. Isn't it? What's it called the show? They did on. I don't think it is. And it's Bronx on SNL sketch where they're like coffee and shit that wasn't Long Island. No culture. Yes. But that's what they sound. Like, my mom sounds like that woman and looks like we used to. Joke. She Chris Farley in that sketch about the zag review with Adam Sandler, the alpha. Chee has on is exactly how my mom dresses like a weird Spangler like every color and the top and then like black pants and a black cardigan. Like, you know, she dresses like a mob life. I don't think I've ever seen someone that actually just like that in my whole life. That's how every mom on Long Island weird. Some of them have the weird short clean haircut. Literally for me. I only know what that looks like from movies. I've never known that. That's a real push into. What are people like on fucking orcas island, though, women? It's like, okay. We'll all Washington for some reason only north face, right? Like as close. Yes. We are. Because it is you'll have a summer house there. But you don't have like you have a month of summer up there. Right. Well, it's like it's like warm. It's not it's not like lay out at the beach weather. I mean, we do but because our whole scale is relatively low. Right. So we're like oh, seventy I'm jumping in the ocean benefited from that scale coming from New York to California where I'm like, I'm going to the next month. I've been going I go to the beach deep into Octo ber, November still just hang out smoke. Bragged about how would you go to the beach, and I'm starting to feel like what's the flex your try? You really try to let the listeners know that I'm under employed. I feel like you gotta you gotta do a rebrand where you're like a beach. Boy, that's your brand you sell merch like that. Yeah. Already dressed like that. I already always talk about it. And I already choose to do that. When I have nothing else going on. I guess that's that's true. It's just, of course, grows and beach culture. But that's because that's Long Island is though because because each you something to do in the summer, and it's a place where you can drink and see women, and that's what every bro wants to do on Long Island. Dude, you live in LA. That's not even the culture here. I know also Long Island in the nineties. It's not like that. Now. I'm sure it is. I just know less about it now. But yeah, sure, they go to the beach there like, bro. He do right? Yeah. That's like people always like conflict jersey in Long Island because we are kind of similar where like equidistant from New York City. So we have that like New York Italian in New York Jewish kind of culture that's spread out there. But then we also have beaches, but we have like fierce loyalty for our own places and hatred for the others despite how similar they are. It's so jersey hates Long Island and Long Island jersey. The big thing is jersey. Like our beaches are better in loans like arby's is better. But none of us would go to the other guys beaches because it's like I live on Long Island. I'm not going to drive ninety minutes to go to a beach in New Jersey when I have a beach, I grew up six miles. My mom's house was six miles door to door from the way, your mom's house, six miles long. It was a huge house. No. Door to door her front door to the beach. Okay. Thank you. Sorry. I think you're respecting those sit in the front door to the back door six miles long. That's why. Hangar. I grew up jogging three miles to get breakfast every morning and two miles back to watch transformers beast wars. But that's even true with the mansions. I feel like on the east coast. There's so much bigger than mansions on the west coast in my experience. Anyway, I think you can just like in the suburbs. Get more pro. I mean, your experiences, you have an island limited point. Yeah. It's like you can't keep buying more. Like you'd have to buy more and more on Long Island. It's like, so it's got the suburbs. So there's a lot of neighborhoods. There's like levittown the post World War thing. Eleven town levittown it's like the the famous I think it was after World War One. So a architect or city planner named Levitt built what was called levittown for returning GI's. And it's just like cookie cutter full blown suburb town a town just made where it's like, here's a plot of land. Here's one hundred equal plots land on like, two blocks, and we're going to build identical houses on M G is gonna. I'm back and start their families here, we it's like that. How the community they find on the Walking Dead, but in real life. Okay. I'm a little only relief. This thing. I don't honestly, I'm not even I'm not even sure if I'm making sense right now. But I definitely have like like the Priscilla or something like creepy little communities like you encounter in like fallout for right. It's it's not exactly that. Because it's now been like that for sixties. So houses have all people have done all matchy matchy matchy matchy. But it is like no one has epic mansions there. They build mcmansions because everyone is the same property, but there are parts of Long Island where people have like an acre of property. You know, the north shore of Long Island is where the rich live literally Norstrom like, yes. You're talking about. Yeah. North shore Mavericks surfing Mavericks. No, the north shore of Long Island, which is on the sound. Yeah. We have the Puget Sound. We both have sound we both live near sounds surely wild 'cause I never really discussed comparing like, east coast culture, west coast culture in my life. If there's any Hawaiians listening. They're like fuck you guys island life man and do a Jamaican accent? Rude on like four. I was just having to be racist to everyone accident, even even white people were like, not cool, man. Misrepresenting? Yeah. I don't I don't know that there's any common ground. There is we have Warf culture. Of course, Hugh. Hugh. Warf culture is your brand you need to make a clothing line. That's like Warf culture. And it's like sitting we don't have worse. We don't wanna have. The last minute. There's an l of this. Or more speed ahead. No. We don't have them like docs, we have only for boats. There's not like stores and shops on them. Yeah. We have on the south shore of Long Island. We have a lot of like there's a town. The town. I actually grew up in freeport is has a place called the nautical-mile which is the Woodcliff canal, and it's like a mile of canal, which just like restaurants, and it used to be all low end like fishermen type bars. But now, it's like all boozy like. Warf? That's exactly what I'm describing. You're saying like my reference for this is Oakland. Like. Walking. 'cause I literally don't have any point of context for any of this. Right. That's your problem. You haven't been out to the island realizing now come home with me for the holiday. No, I don't even really have like close friends from the east coast. I've never really even like stayed at length on the east coast. My boyfriends have been from the east coast. I have no knowledge of what childhood is like on the east coast other than what I see in movies. It's very similar to childhood is like in the west coast. I'm assuming just a form like Carolina SIS, but maybe not on the you don't have like west coast. No, you're from the fucking island that you have to take an ninety you're from an isolated island. So of course, you're got. Okay. Maybe I'm what's weird and this, and that's what I'm saying. No. We're both weird that you're you're like you're like that's nothing like the west coast. I think you're not I don't think separate that. I'm not asking representation the east coast. Either though, I think I think just because I have the New York voice a lot of people assume that but like you there's the Vermont cultures fucking wacky, dude. Yeah. That's weird. We wouldn't even call that east coast where. Yeah, that's Vermont is like fucking they're like hippies there, Vermont Vermont, Vermont is the peon w of the east coast. Yeah. Every time I've gone from. It's as it's coffee. It's cold. It's weed it's old people with decent viewpoints on the earth. I feel so scene. All right over Christmas. We're gonna spend a week Long Island together. And then we're going to go up to Vermont and see how similar it is. I did do one thing on the east coast that was very strange for a non local to do what? It's gonna be crazy ate a hotdog. I fried nuts. No. My dad. Okay. Well, this is very varying. I've never seen this before it's fine. This is the place to do it. Okay. Well, into my twenties dad was like, hey, if he was still in the land. So like, I only get to see him so often. And so he's like it's so nice to spend like christmasy afternoon like in a city because it's like an awful to us. Yeah. And we used to do it. And we're going to Seattle once around Christmas time is the all this. And Christmas lights. Yeah. Because otherwise, the only place I got to see that was movies and shows would just sit there going. How can you imagine like Christmas trees in public? None of it made sense to me trees with lights. None of that. People. Don't have Christmas trees in their house. Not like, you know, how your town has like cute streets during Christmas, never wiring banner. Yeah. There's banner lights being strung across you. Never have. Okay. Nothing like street lights. Yeah. That's yeah. They'll be like candy canes, hanging from all the street lights and stuff like that. You say street lights, and I'm like who. What are the streetlights? There's like two and all of town. That's wild. That's why. All right. So you wanted to go to a Christmas after noon right Christmas in a city. So smooth mousse make it my dad, and I will buy it. I can relate to this. So he was like it just get like a hit of the real Christmas scene so him and I went to New York together. And you're you're saying this was in your twenties. Twenty five years already. He wasn't thinking still kid, and we did the one year, and we do all these Christmas things like Sochaux and like wintom Macy's. Solely to say, just alternate tour shit. Okay. And that's what we did too. And I was a fifty minute train line. Really? Oh, that's relief. Because that's the I'm from a part of Long Island where people like my dad worked in the city, but he worked off hours and drove he didn't have like an office job or something like that. And so I like I lived with people who were like, my my brother's like why go to the city like it's so annoying. It's like. There's a weird idea in Long Island where it's like, oh the city. It's far so far so crowd. And it's like it is still New York City. People are flying from Japan to go there, and you won't take the train Forty-five minutes. Go eat. Oh, we got great restaurants. You know, you live next to one of the greatest cities in the world. Right. And I think it's great but world yet we're talking about a city that is one of the number one destination for people across the globe. And my friends will be like, oh, I Don I it into the fucking city. Yeah. And that's and that's just like there's something about that. That is sort of a microcosm for unpacking. How long islanders are where? It's like I got my life's walking great though. What are you talking about insisting that like years is the best it can be? But I think part of it is because. New York City puts you as a small fish in a big pond, and you don't necessarily know all your ways around and no the best deli in. No, the best your favorite. It's like out of your comfort zone. And I think long islanders a lot of us won't like admit that like, you know, I'm comfortable here. When like being on my street, and like knowing how to get home. And which I think is why conservative Boone coming out of Long Island now too. Yeah. There's a big like a weird conservative movement on Long Island kind of the us ISM has made it like anti progressive. Right. And there's like sort of like, you know, there's like slight segregation amongst communities where it's like white neighborhood black neighbor. Really? Yes. So it's kind of weird in that way. Where it's like, oh, that's most like white people don't move to that. They don't go to few white people. Go to that school few income people go to like classism fully fully that on Long Island. And it's like. Trying not to let your kids go to certain schools living in certain schools. It's very very gross. And then there's like this big like stoking the fear of MS thirteen like, we MS thirteen over there to allegedly. Yes. Koreatown only. Now, they're in they're in Long Island. And but it's not as bad as everyone wants to believe. Yeah. That's like a strange scapegoat that I feel like keeps coming up for like the whole country's problems. Like, yeah. Like how much power do you think? These guys have their powerful gang. I just that. But right. It's kind of fighting like, yes. Like these three Muslim guys that are in my high school, right? If we let one more Muslim guy in it's going to be ISIS, if we let one more Latino Latin experts in it's going to be fucking MS thirteen if we you know, what I mean, like there's like this weird thing of like, you know, it's just an easy out for your obvious like racism, right? Well, that's the thing. Let's let you go. Like, I don't mind. Latin next people. But if let me use them like confirmation bias too. This Dixie I told you there is an MS thirteen killing last year in bellmore bellport or whatever. Oh, man. That's your liberal though ish. I don't know your views fully your liberal issue liberal, right? Mega liberal what the fuck is wrong with you. Because I your family's not know what? Yeah. Not really they're like, my family's a political. Okay. So they why do you care? We never talk about it. We never speak about politics when I'm round is it because they don't have them or because you have different ones. I think it's both we would differ. If we started talking about it. But my mom just votes the way her like rich friends vote. My mom, literally said something along the lines of the stock market went up. And I'm like, do you know how few people that affects in life? Yes. It's like selective. News sources to fuck. Yeah. I mean, we can get you can get in. That's the fucking craziest thing ever to is. Just like there's not like an objective source of information. Now, people are curing truths for. Selves, people are reading fucking like. Someone I'm gonna leave out any someone showed me something the other day on their phone that was like a mean. And it was like, you know, like that gross. I'm sorry. I don't want to put judgment in their house. And I don't know how few people are into this like horsey play in doggy play where they wear like the snag. I mean. Yeah. Like oh. Yeah. Like, oh closets sexual thing. Waging about freeze. No, it's not fully furry is. It's like where one person is treated like a dog literally like they. SM thing. I think right. There's something. There's something about that. And like. Like someone showed me their phone. And it was a Mimi was that and that person was like, even you could admit that this is a little fucked up. Right. Like, I they wanted to be labeled without gender. Now. They want to be able to tell my self identify as talks. And it was literally, and it was just like man applies to have to self identifies dog. And this person is going admit that you admit that this is cross, and I go where did you get this these Facebook? I'm like, oh, but what's the source? Did you Google anything else to find out about this? He's like knowledge is saying this kind of up do this. And also, and here's what I know. I'm super liberal. What if they did wanna live dog why the fuck login bother me piss on my fuck in front lawn? This is just like a few years ago when they were like, oh, you're gonna let gay people Mary. What's next? They're gonna marry ugh. And then they find this random news article probably fake from Yahoo from ten years ago. But like this woman married her book, like see see everyone's marrying their dogs and books. It's getting a little loud. I feel like we're manifesting their anger about non woke people China pretend that they know what's going on it, really guys. The wood Chipper literally has moved so much closer to my house. It's right outside the window. I'm so sorry to Mars shoutout editor at large Mars Maria. We're so sorry. It sounds like we're in hell, this is insane. I love it. I feel like I'm like in an immersive like angry podcast experience. I'm stoned can't hear out of my left ear. There's just like huge loud noises. I'm shouting into microphone. People. 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I barely tough to that's like people like, oh, you know, what upset people and it's like. Sever my potentially my relationship with my family. My dad is dead. My mom is like inner sixties just fucking. Let me have this. I'm not going to cause I used to be staunchly anti religious to. And then like, my Amazon is no I still am. But like used to hammer my mom about it. Because she would like do things that I thought I'm like, you swear, you're so Catholic, but you went to a psychic while that's a false idol. You know, Ballo you would hound her about cheese. I wonder about shit like that. And then like, I think I've told this story before, but then when my dad passed away I saw how much the priest and the church and the ceremony how how much meant to her. And I was like, okay. Why am I taking this away from her then? Yeah. I mean, I know religion and politics are allegedly different. But what I guess what I'm saying is like I'm not it's not worth it for me to lose connection to like. Three times four times a year to excuse me. There comes a point to that one. Was you farting? We should say. Huge microphone torture. But and just did that I haven't seen that movie in a long time. Yeah. That's still funny. But how how about orcas island? I'm sure there's a lot of wealthy people now. And that's we cook has a little bit of like trashy rich people. And that's where conservatism, I think leaks into start going. I wanna keep this money such dirt for you island gossip if any friends and listen to this. They're going to be like what this juicy I will not name name. It's very liberal. It's entirely liberal. I believe it's per capita the most liberal place in the country or the state. I may not wrong. Oh shit. Like, it's extremely liberal. My county berry mind, my counties, digest, the island's mainland. Immediately is not that whole mainland until you get to Seattle is very conservative. So you like even getting gas in accordance with an Obama sticker. Like, you're gonna get shit. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's like it's like New England a little bit in that way. Right. Close to but very different. So anyway. When this last election happened, clearly like, no one would dare support Trump like ostracize from the whole fucking island. If you put a Trump on your yard like literally at the market your kids at school like everyone would be like oh, hi done to them civility hashtag civility the future. Liberals. It's actually a dream. Anyway, my well, I shouldn't say names someone I know. Yeah. Had to pick something up on election night, like a work thing. Right. Who would think that someone would be secretly hosting election night party for the five Republicans on the island to go ape shit about Trump winning? Oh my God. And the second this person who I shall not name walked into this party. They all spotted him a liberal, and like a member of like a family on the island that knows people and pretend that they weren't doing what they were doing. They're like, oh, no. We're just grit society over on an island. That's awesome. That's like the next American horror story. Conservatives trying to survive on the liberal island. Yeah, it's liberal liberals are like the Colt. That's really fun. But like we have. Well, I shouldn't. I haven't lived there in ten years. But from what I can tell from my parents talking about all the time. Like, there's one person on the island. I guess that was illegal immigrant from Mexico. I think and he is such a beloved community memories forever. And so when I think I it's like got him and tried to because the they can pull the ferries such like an easy get. They tried to deport him and the island like rallied together so aggressively. I think like our personal like, I don't know. It's not Senator what's the guy? Representative like commissioned to get him released and he did because the island rallied so hard behind him. That's awesome. Yeah. So our violence anyone gets cancer. Like doesn't matter. If you don't have any friends that you will have food on your doorstep for like six weeks. She I like that small. I it's a great plot. Like a setting for for movies. I know we're talking about the east coast about like, you only know it for movies. I only know that small town both from movies. I saw my sister sister. The fuck even like, the small town ones like, you know, like doc, Hollywood or whatever we're not dot com. That's what it's called. I don't know that with Michael J FOX when he ends up like in a small town like helping out his doctor. But it's like all that stuff where it's like, everyone knows each other like my girl like everyone knows that shit is like, no unil-, my favorite thing. When I moved to LA was I can never says word non-committee in non nitty and amenity. To stone is looking to say, I've never notice it in on a Mus as what I'm trying to an amenity in. No, it's like seeing them. I can't say this. You know what else? I have a hard time with cinnamon got it. Is that hard? At one time. You're like I'm done. I'm out. Thank you for coming on great listener podcast punch. Jan goodbye. Click. I was like holy shit. I can go shopping, and I don't have to have thirty conversations with people that I haven't seen in ten years or like my ex boyfriends mom, or like my second grade teacher or like my neighbor's kid or my ex-boyfriend, right? Yes. You don't really run into exes in L A or New York, unless your friend group. But like it's not like you accidentally. That. But I haven't LA three times by acts like years after the fact in totally different neighborhoods in different places. That's awesome. No. It's not. He's not awesome, dude. That gives you a chance to reconnect, and then doesn't if you don't want it. It doesn't happen. Perfect. Says you want to reconnect I don't have any X's really what it's kind of complicated. I have like two X's, and but they were from because I started doing nothing about Xs culture. I started dating my wife when I was twenty more things are amazing for me. I found the one so early in my life shut the fuck. But it's true. And so like, I only have two ex girlfriends, but they're from like when you were. Any excess from your twenties. I have one x from. Yeah. From when I was like nineteen or twenty, but she like 'cause we all went to the same college. We all know each other's dodge, so many bullets. I have like a holy badge on my boy scout uniform that you don't have right. I tell you what's really crazy. And I mean, I've talked about this on this so many times, but I've never been on a date. Okay. I'm actually angry. Now that's not fair. Eatings the word. I've never been on a date never sat across girl and been like because I kind of. Kind of same though, because you're such a good conversationalist dating. It'd be fun for you. Yeah. I did. Like speed dating. Actually didn't know so positively that I was going to die for. I would be like something I could do when I get older. But there's no way I live. Just based on what I'm doing with my. Eating sand. Every time I go to the beach state of pound the sand every day. It's just what Tim Ferriss says. I should Joe Rogan told me I gotta either pound sand every morning, wait. What was I scream? Oh, yeah. I've never been on a date because in college you started hooking up at a bar right party. And then we're like, hey, reb boyfriend grow together. And then in highschool, you just ask straight to be boyfriend girlfriend. I or you do end go out and get a pizza together on terrorists house what or on the show terrorist. I don't watch terrace house, but you're not the first person at scream to me about terrorists house. I just finished the season that I watched a new doors and show to Japanese happen show reality show, we is this the point of this podcast. Just never returned subject is okay that we'd just like hot gift arou-. So condescending. It's my just been thinking then. And this and this I don't wanna talk about the islands. It's stupid. I don't know. Let's talk about we. If we go to this the podcast. I had people come over to talk about sandwiches. And then we talk for ninety minutes about how hard overeating is on us. And we have to change the name of the episode like I invite them over they did sandwiches and the same do ahead onto sandwiches part too. Because there are two other big fat friends of mine that we love sandwiches Gavin Jim listened to it. It's like two weeks ago at this point. And we were supposed to talk about. We said we started talking about how. Affecting. And then we sat down in here. We're like fuck it. Let's just talk about this. And we talked about over eating for ninety minutes. I wanna listen it's upsetting. I can deeply really all. I know. I saw you fucking raid. The head. If you're listening don't fill Marty don't tell don't tell jacomb your and Marty, but me L fucking leaves twelve granola bars. Because I don't want my house because if I have them I'll eat the whole box, right? But if they're at work, they're free. I'll take fucking LaCroix's caloric free. My head. I can jam cardio that you can eat three fucking. Because if I didn't if I didn't like make the intention to eat it here. It has gotta eat. It doesn't right. Yeah. If you didn't like and also if you don't have like a box of them, right? And it's like, okay. Maybe this is like, my fleeting this coming out. But like if I know I own something yummy. I have to eat it as soon as I know, I have it. Right. It's hard to let it's hard to pay for that. Like literally, I leave the grocery store with these tips. I want to try put him in the cupboard and from that moment for it. They're like Frodo with ring. I'm just like got to get those jobs, man. The middle of night. Where's the chips? Do you have any siblings to middle kid? Okay. I'm the oldest of three. And I think I have that same thing too. Because part of it was growing up if my mom one bag of something good. It was going. This was gone in the first time it was open. So if you weren't even there the for someone like I love to eat junk food going up like we only had like, whatever it was on sale was like the junk food. We were allowed to have. And my mom loves hard, pretzels, which we grew up having to like, the company sit Sydney, Sydney. Yes. Our cinders that she loves Snyder's. It's probably it's definitely Snyder's. Now that we've said Snyder's pretzels, my mom loved that shit growing up. They were so cheap. It was like eating fucking would miss the long pretzel Roddick and the ones that we're fucking like short fat little mini. It's like practicing your teeth. Yes. Not the Honey. Mustard. Those were good. No, the Honey mustard pieces didn't come around to. I think you're younger than me. They didn't come around for like until I got when they came out. I just didn't know how old you were. Then I'm old dog. There and it's like eating it. Feels like you're eating trail mix because it's so hard to eat. You're like, oh, this is healthy. And you're like, oh, wait. No. It's just pretzel dough and and mustard dust once I do you think hard things are inherently healthy. Well, like, I said this the other day about I drank drinking, myself cinnamon, tea, and I made it too strong, and it tasted like it gets to be like. It tasted like oh. This tastes. So kind of intense that it has to be good for his throat combat. You you're like, I don't love the taste. If if you told me compete, you was. Was just like I don't love Capuchin enough to drink it. If it wasn't had no positive benefits. I actually genuinely love the taste of I like to taste of some Capuchins. But I also like everywhere like as bad as fruit chews. I would just drink fruit juice. But I like the way they feel. Feel healthy tongues like barometers different that makes sense. Well, then that's also part of the reason why you fuck in zero in on a bag of chips. That's in your cabinet because we grew up eating so healthy boy when I moved off island. I shouldn't have said that off off island is the way to say it, Doug. This is a safe place hot innate, Pat, pay guys just for the listeners meal is lifted her shirt up his spinning around in circles, like the only seen in Nell that I remember so visually for some reason being like fucking twelve when Nell came on Bubis Jodi foster like who would I think is beautiful and amazingly talented, but as I got older realized almost without sex sexuality. But as Nell oh my God. And it was just like she's like to me is completely devoid of any. I have no attraction towards people could see how cross I just went. When these. I wish people could see heart screaming Nells booms. The first time I was like I can go to fast straw. There's none on the you don't have one minute of chains. That's pretty going to Starbucks. I'm going to save the Cup. Bring it to school. Can I take you home with me during the holidays? Can I go home with you during the summer? Yes. Absolutely the summers on the island, dude. It's just like fucking every seen you've seen in like an old tiny movie or movies. You'll Timea where it's like summer like stand by me or like without the shark's jaws. Like all the offbeat stuff jaws is so like buying your banks and jumping in lakes that was my let's do that. I'll come visit your family with over the summer. I truly believe I can be a if I didn't love like video games and movies so much. I could be like, but I guess you can have that as part of a hippie life. Sixty four what I ended. Sick time. Because that's like, I'm I think more and more. I am a little bit hippy esque, and maybe just because I'm like an old stone. If you can if you can hang with me you already are. Yeah. That's that's that's a bridge. I have to pass. She's kind of weird hippie right interesting. So you poop in a drawer. Get out of there. That's my fucking good t shirt, or at least poop in the gym t-shirts rush any drawers game eighties enemies. That's how I know. People. Don't like me if people don't like me shitting in their drawers, then. That's them. They're not hippie enough to be with me. Your sounds more like hippy utopia where it's we have no chains. We're all friendly to each other. It's liberal be yourself. Yeah. Do whatever you want paint shit and drawers all that. And then there's like the one tweak further where it's like, it's difficult now. I'm a hippie who likes to go to the movies. We did have a theater and they play one movie twice a week and blast. Oh, that's awesome. I think it was crouching tiger. Hidden dragon was mostly on the ceiling of the theater, and that was just how we wanted to. I lived in the woods. Didn't know what I hear Bush looked like I'm not, that's so awesome. I had a rat's nest like my entire head was rat's nest until I was like seven or eight, and that's just because you didn't go to kindergarten or pre K I chose to go to public school. And I was I was like, I know this girl, and she said, it's it's fun. You get to see other kids. So that's fun. I didn't know it was school. And I was home school of another point. So I just sat there killing time until fifth grade all to read like four you're talking about. That's so awesome. Yeah. That was like me. I went into kindergarten knowing how to read like my dad just taught me when I was like superheroes. Very brightly. Let's get real. I I always make this joke. And I think it's true. I was actually just this smart when I was like, you're still saying that. But like, I know I'm still pretty smart. You're still very smart. Right. So you're you were very smart. I was a kid. I think I was like a free. Yeah. Oh shit. My parents were like money this kids. No, he just like mostly memorize is movies. If your brains capable of working like that, I think that is like a genius brain. You're just using it for something else. I'm just magic those were quesions God, if they were just only equation every time you could pull a movie wrath pulling a math occasion shit, dude. What did I do with my life? Why did I have a blockbuster card and not a fucking library card? The libraries movies. Way to eighteen to twenty. I want to hear more about this. You were living in a year into painting. I like no responsive. Did you have you had a job? Did you have a job on the? I was a pastry. Chef at a restaurant the island. And then I that's something. You've you've did for a long time. Right. Okay. Let's you really want to small town. I love baking a child, maybe this is like the product you brain. I don't know. I started making it like nine like making full like basket woven pies and shit at like nine and like I'm not trying to say like only good for non-euro. Like, no they were like the best piper. Had it. I like I just have this gift. It was weird. We'll be like please cook for us. Please cook for us like adults, and I was like thirteen. That's awesome. Like, I was in charge of family dinner, my house at like eleven. And then it got we're out and someone was like, hey, I haven't vent can you bake all the stuff for it making it out of your mom's house. Yeah. Early days Google Google internet yet. So like, I was making all that's awesome. So. Like, I could see the progression from being that little precocious kid making trying to figure out a card strawberries back. I want this thing I will. And I gotta taste. I will get it to the level of my taste that and then I see childhood. Yeah. And then I see that now in like all the shit you do with between vine and the podcast making music and shit brain just like forty facets at once. Yeah. And it's like, and it's like, I mean, you're a renaissance person, you know, what I mean like, well, you can do music food Turkey legs, baby. Oh renaissance because I could see your tits at like a show level. And you you you keep like you have a body sense of humor. I love the renaissance fair, by the way, I go every year me my. My dress at renaissance pleasure in irvington. That's my current renaissance fair the renaissance festival in tuxedo, New York and sterling forest, I was my childhood Ren faire fares my whole life. But no, I it's very kind of frame it as a renaissance woman because in my head. I think of myself as talk of all trades master of none. Yeah. That's how I feel about myself too. But that's being self hating, isn't it? Yes. Because also typically the same coin it also like if you wanted to be snobby can call yourself, a polymath polymath. I don't know someone called me that once and I was like so proud. I look it up. And that was the moment when I was like, I don't know if I am polymath if someone calls me, and then I have to look up what it is saying that like your brain fields movements. Right. I believe that. Yeah. I think that's part of why I like interviewing people so much and like talking to one on one with people because I can I can relate to a lot of different people and a lot of different ways. And I also enjoy learning more and finding small like fucking. Go. We're not done with this, by the way, so baking thing, and then you bake for a event of some sort. Yeah. That was like my first jobs, and then a restaurant my friends parents own. I think they're being nice. But I don't know they were like for us. And I was like all right. So my first day there chef quits and everybody gets bumped up. So now, I'm doing all their desserts. But I'm also doing all the prep. So I was a prep cook and pastry chef, and I was like I don't really want to like cut squid up all day. But I guess this is my job now already vegetarian then. So it was disgusting for me. Oh my God. Yeah. But then after that job got more, pastries pastry jobs, and then I graduated high school, and I was like, I don't get gap ear 'cause I don't know what to do. And I thought Seattle and then I'd like a fucking panic attack. And I was like I can't live in a city. I can't do this. So back went to the back to the irt. Of course, then started being a pastry chef not too much. There was a brief didn't wanna mullahs in between them. Well, what were you doing down there as part of your gap year? No, I just found people that were going. They found me. And you went there under the auspices of here for three months before I left, okay down there for the first month, those learning Spanish Antigua, and then went up to like lawn and worked in a small town outside of San Marcos cut, San Juan LA, and I with my skills was employed by a company that works with the United Nations. People earn. Oh, what's when you go? Peace corps. People to help these women open like a restaurant in the town that could attract tourists because they don't have a good enough economy and make money opened a restaurant. And then I know it sounds crazy. And then the last month volunteering animal rehab up in the northern near Flora's. That's awesome. Not was crazy Iran attacked by wealth bore like sweep up it's shit because it's crazy. That's why this is not too long. I'm sorry. No. No, no. That's not what I was going to say. This is not. I don't know why it just came into my mind toy forgot about it. I've been like running lately to try train for half marathon. I was running the other day like up in West Hollywood. And I saw from a distance big weird dog walking this big dog. And my dog is so furry, and I was far away from it. But I kept jogging coming closer and closer. And it was the dog was moving around that much just like, wait a minute. What the fuck and I keep jug. And then as up I look, and it's not a dog at all. It's a huge black pig into huge black pig and in West Hollywood and the bottom half of its body. The bottom is died like deep purple violets wants pig. It's and then I look up and there is this young looking black. He looked like like one of these new soundcloud rappers like a young black dude with. Multicolored dreadlocks dreadlocks of all different colors kinda short like and he was like holding a leash wait. He's walking the pay. Yes. And I was like, oh, I didn't. I thought that was a weird looking dog. And he just looked at me. And then looked away you fucking. I was like come on man if you walking and walking died in West Hollywood has has two tones of hair, I should be able to talk about didn't do this for a tensions. Multicolored dreads your dog your dog is not a dog. It's a pig. And I was like what the fuck. And now I kept taking the same route a bunch lately because I'm like, I gotta find that have not seen. So I'm wondering if I was just fucking, you know, maybe you were. Supervising? His famous. I bet these famous that's probably routinely because he probably was like another fan. I truly believe he's probably a rapper that I didn't just because it seemed like a Hague while you're at flex. It's like a dope. It's a great episode of cribs zone. That's piggy Smalls aureus, gene. I think that's what Arianna 'Grande and Davidson named their pig. Okay. I never have understood this. Are we going to pretend that David's didn't fuck over Qazi, David? Like, we just pretending that didn't happen. Yeah. No one's talking about that. I think he's done that a couple of times in a row dick to women. I don't know if he's addicted women, but he's he's he's got a new major relationship kind of frequently. I mean, I don't mean to him. I know he struggles stuff, but like I'm just like I feel very bad for her in this situation. And now I'm kinda like site that they broke up. I'm like, yeah. I feel only Kathy for some reason I trust because you know, he was dating. Larry David's daughter was dating Davidson before she has a series. You didn't watch it. No. She's great. Oh, I got to watch it. Yeah. She's like funny. Oh, I'm sure. Yeah. Right. Maybe who knows what they're what actually went down. But at the same time. There's nothing wrong with take an aside. I wrote a whole narrative in my head. That's what happens when you're a celebrity, unfortunately side with you. You know? Some people side with Angelina in the fuck and bring in Brad and Jennifer. So I say Inge lean in the Brad initially. And I was like, oh, we do with Angelina, right, right? One sided with Brad. No, I'm with Maddocks from the beginning. Dax. Right piece Latin for peace. Okay. So you're leave got him all your back your fucking pastry chef in and when when do you leave the island when you go out on your, okay, what's in your yard is just like a bed on the floor wardrobe? Oh, my my sister had lived there the year before me. And so her boyfriend was a carpenter, and he got living there too. So he went to town like Decca, nothing out is walls and shit. There's like rooms as cool. Oh, that's dope. Yeah. When I visit. Yeah. And my mom's horses are right in front of it. So like you just go on the balcony. There's a horse in front. That's awesome. Nice horses. A funny. That's I ever Garvan horseback riding accident. I have to tell people when they see your buddy. I don't think that's. It's like a weird rom com where you're like the weird girl, and you're taking off your shirt. Like has a horse. Scott gonna dislike me when you find this out. I fell off a horse. Athle- print on my. Horseback riding. I think is just like the one never do writing. It's not what you're thinking right now like jumping pretty travel. Yeah. Your dogs skateboard? Your dogs along board not a fucking trick skateboard. Yeah. Your dog your horse all animals are dogs to me. That's a pig. That's a big dog outside the year. That's that's a horse caper wanted to promote your brains. I can't understand this thing because I'm spending to attention other. All animals are. I will say that I'm stoned and my three times since it's come up in my head. I've said you gotta go. You gotta see crouching tiger hidden dragon. It like I keep saying you've got to watch it again. Oh, do what I do food to movies. Yes, why come up? Got no food to cancel the rest of my day. Crouching tiger attract I'm already like I was like I'm gonna go for run later on my stone. Then I'm like days fug and grade ping again, you gotta go. I gotta go see the photo to make sure. Around here, sir. Get let let go me, Mr.. Yeah. I just think based on your stature you're not allowed to ask anyone in. It's like a movie, it's really like true mail privileges. I went running at night once it was like eight PM didn't freak out. Well, no, I didn't freak. I wasn't freaked out at all my own. And I'm like, oh this like I remember Nikki Glaser, so some comedian making the joke. It's like if you don't understand what it's like to be a woman. How do you feel when we running at nine PM at night in central park. You know, it's like just women just can't do that. And I'm like jogging street, and I didn't have a headband ear buds like a tag top this fucking bearded messy haired guy and there's people walking dogs and it's a nighttime. This is horrifying. I don't even think to think what I look like. And I'm gonna fucking fat. Viking hag are the horrible jogging through their town like two ways in terms of like privilege because yes, it's two women. I can't go running at night that's not fair. Or if I do have to be very conscious of like how I dress. Right. But it's also like within male to male privilege of like do. I look a certain way that if I go running at night people are scared. Maybe I should change at a jeans. One of those faces where I'd be cast the creepy old guy. Yeah. It's true. I forgot who said this was someone said the scariest thing ever is someone running full speed in St. loads. So when a suit running full speed means they're coming away from something or doing going towards something only one run in street. Clothes is Goths, but they don't run full speed to combo. I can't handle wait a minute. Wait a minute wait gym class. They never close. Wait. So you got got comfortable around God's jogging. I could handle jogging Gus driving. They don't bend their ours. I have not like on the street not. From child. That's so bird to my a Goth jogging. They run like face forward. I loved when like the one Goth girl in school would like change into like yellow like Umbro's, and like an old like barmitzvah teaser from Jim. And you're like what she usually. Without a pound of gen. She has like a fucking nose ring and like a blue manic panic streak in her hair. But with like yellow and dressed, like a normal teen girl going this slumber party. I remember seeing that in high school being like. Or like even the super like the couple of like super gay feminine kids. We had who are sort of like hipster or glamorous kind of like seeing them like in like sweatpants with like. Hi, sha. Feek? The gym was like such like a leveling field for everyone and all looked shitty. When it was also like it was like to let dumb kids to feel like they were part school at felt like. That's so mean, but like it was like the kids who would like dominate. Jim would be like it didn't matter that they fuck in like, we're embarrassed in the rest of the classes. We didn't dumb kids. I can't relate to that. We had some dumb kids. But also like this might be me projecting because I couldn't do Jim stuff because fat. Oh, maybe your dome dumb. You even know like I've read the stand. Grade second grade, and I have a ninth grade reading level, bro. Fucking suck. My dick. I already read the hobbit. I was. Not kids. But then it would be like all right. Get on the rope Gabrielle, and I'd be like the presidential fitness test fail it to I've never did one chin up. I couldn't I couldn't or one push up an into up until I was like twenty two. I still went punch punch of you. You have sure twenty nine a single one. I could for a while. But now, I'm back out of it. I'm going to get back doing up is one of my twenty nineteen goals back right? What's your back? Does it? Yeah. It's your back and just get yourself lighter and your back stronger. I don't think I can do that. I'll just evaporate into the air. Dude. I'll be like the second will turn into the end of ventures. I don't feel so good Gabor's meal. She did a chimp. She died doing what she loved a chin up the ghost and everywhere movie. Unfinished business. You like do the sit and reach crush it. And they're like great like action comedy. I gotta teach this ghost do. Two. I got this fat ghost. That's haunting me, and he's a fat little fourteen year old boy, so annoying to be around you just want. He can't play video games. But he wants me to play like Whoopie Goldberg into me while I play video games, and it's really uncomfortable. I don't wanna play booking Diddy Kong racing anymore. Chrome tuna plain x to on steam now. All right. Shout out to X to which I started playing way later it's been out for a couple years, and I'm kind of obsessed. What consoles for I played on my computer, computer one. Yeah. I don't have any computer ones. Smart. I I should not have games on the thing. I also I'm working. I couldn't do it. I might have to get the move everything to the XBox. Because I send my best move everything to the transitional, my gaming paraphernalia until the X I'll have to delete steam and blizzard off my desktop never happening. Child. I'd rather just. Money. Don't even say. Memphis it. Too late baby. Also, which? Dude meal. I don't want to keep you any longer. But we gotta come back and go to island. They know. Maybe no, we should maybe get like someone who is in Albany trash, and I know man's ukases from an island. We have another island connection episode. I feel like it's so much of a Pindar bucks that it's like how do you ever get back to the the hippie the hippie island stuff, and I had like sort of from the meat head island at sort of like rival islands. We can really we would be like parent a boxing match. Yes. That's how boxing. Wrestling wrestling hippie woman from the west coast and the guy nine years older than her from these go the three hundred pound man from the east coast. That's how boxing I mean. More like metaphorically. Yes. Physically. I think I could take you. Honestly, I'm curious if you think you little worm. The confidence in what you say. I'm a little worm is terrifying and alluring at the same time me little worm meal, the worm great fucking wrestling name, the worms back baby. Do the worm. So I couldn't you're in asleep Bank. I just sleep. Split in half. And fuck myself. I would buy that paper view. We're trying to say goodbye. Sorry. No. It's okay. Where people can follow you at Twitter at at meal. Are you on all social media's Neil monster on Instagram monster on and then stories are always particularly funny? And often feature costumes for some quickey girl me, I'm just I often driving around on my scooter and listening to this chins, and I still have a goldfish. It died years ago bones and John now, and then your podcast on also on the head. Gum network is punch up the jam and it's a really fun show on to listen to its particularly fun to do. It's really fun to listen to. I love doing. The wasn't me episode was so so fun. The pinochle out episode is another good one. And then the Kokomo episode episode very airy we're about to release to when does this. When does this? This will come out and like a week. Okay. So little spoiler for upcoming episode of the dam where about to do to close by next. Oh, shit a little poke. Maybe that's pretty exciting through. Girl when that song first came out like the lyrics didn't land on me for like one month and dancing to it at the club at McCoy's the club in college Ryan on girls, and I'm like, wait a minute feel a little poke coming through trying to hide it but damn excited. Wait, I'm pressing this to stranger on the dance floor. I feel her bones. The weirdest part about doing that in college. Is that some like when a girl like girls are doing that back? You're like this is really intense that she's fine with this. And also is. Fucking right now. But I'm dry humping. Like, I can't come from. I'm in the tight jeans, I own I might come in these. It will be visible people cannot this cannot have you know. Mccoy should guys gotta go. The worst possible place to come the black. I feel like we can find the worst place to. I mean just for public same, right, right? I'm sure your kids baseball games. It's not. Could cover it up. You could say oh those strike. Just got nervous. Don't me for my son, and my pants. She was drinking a Cup of goon. I still do love goop anything else. You wanna plug meal? Oh, just the joke. Now, they gotta Dale already nuts. They've tuned out. The metrics say they only listen to the last two minutes. Going to talk. This has been goo talk from islands. We're Nick from islands. TM island time, baby. So fun. This has been a blast as always at Gabriel. 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High and Mighty
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189: Long Island (w/ Matt Rogers)
This is a head gum podcast. I might. Welcome back to another episode of high and mighty. It's me your poor. The number one. All you gotta do is trust me. Boy, Johnny g joining me as high and mighty studios as my nearly sailing co host art there Gabor's Arthur give him a shout-out crushing that Nyla bone. Speaking of crushing that Nyla bone. Also, crushing the Nyla bone the other end leading tramping, the toy with Dougie is my friend, and yours from the last culture despite cast and from Long Island comedian performer on June new NAT Rogers, less on new. Do you know what that means? I think a young starlet a young female who can do a lot of different things men can be honest to hell, no this. But my my it's twenty it's twenty eighteen you can be whatever you want. Then if I however you'd like to. There. I've been saying lately, I don't identify a runner. I ran a half marathon. And people asked me about it. And I go I don't identifies. My friend. That's like on Broadway. He's like, you know, it's hard. I'm getting a little old aging out of the engine types. And this is a straight guy. That's is ING under new just means anyone that can step out stage. And look as if you're seeing the sun for the first time, and we all buy it. Yeah. If you if you can earnestly rub your eyes and say, I just woke up, that's we're with you as if it's the morning at all times, your spring sprightly little trick this on your new come from theaters that what it is. Or is it like I thought it was or is it a character type two. Let's say, yes, let's say let's say it does one minute ago when I said, we don't look stuff up on this. It doesn't matter if we're right or wrong. We're one minute in go in. Actually say that under new started with Rogers and Hammerstein in the nineteen thirties can come for me high and mighty listen come on she'd heads come after. But I love these mouth breeders every huge. Phrase on. But the thing is I'm honored to be called an engineer when I walked in here. And you said I met peak gay with my mustache and my fucking denim jacket. Gina form on would you all denim, and a mustache you look like I mean, I'm into it. Yeah. I said it's like the normal heart. That crack up you. You are what in my head at my age growing up in the nineties. This is what I think gay men look. Yeah. I know what they look like they look like everybody everybody in my head. This is what gay guys were when I was like thirteen I'm fully. You're like fun uncle. Yeah. Yeah. You're that's Bruce his name. Now. I recall some Bruce, Bruce. He's the uncle Tommy's friends who puts on the fund music. Yeah. Bruce has seen every movie. That's like don't you have an that. We talked about this family friends. I have a family friend that I thought was so interesting in oh, he's just like cultures. He's like, I'm just like white trash, and this guy isn't and I'm like who I feel like that's what I used to also when I was very young used to be like that guy must be gay. 'cause he's interesting. You can live in the city and be straight. I had maybe we talked about this. But this guy that used to cut my hair's name was lex. And I had no concept of that. He was gay. I just thought he like talked so confident he was he did my hair one time. My mom was like, I don't know what to do with him anymore. Like, he's getting older. I think he wants short. He's like leave it to me. And I did it turn me round on the share wouldn't let me see my hair the whole. That's awesome. Yeah. And here was this on the island. What what this was in Babylon a no Lyndon Hurst. Okay. Mom used to work at a hair salon called ecstasies, which was clearly named by lex the gay, man. That's awesome. He flipped me around in the chair. He like looked at my hair any like raises eyebrows. And goes you look like a marine. Look like. I sort of have a opening my eyes to homosexuality hair hair, salon story to Maximus in Merrick, which was like a kind of fancy hair, salon a couple of girls from my school that I was friends with where like hair wash and assistant girls the girls. And like if you wanna come get a haircut if you can do it like on zero minutes notice you can do it for just like a tip. Some of these guys just wanna like hair for fun. You throw thirty cash this. Yeah. And I was like we're in and I was like bleaching my hair at the time. So I was like, yeah. Into it. And they're coming into it. And we go in and it's these girls who we think are hot me. And my buddy, Brian who are both straight go in these girls. Are we think are hot and then ten gay? They love us. And they're like, do you want bleach your hair, I'll do whatever you think? I should do. And the guys there is we ended up going to see Blondie and B fifty twos. Even putting together that going to that concert at the Jones beach amphitheater hell, you with salon employees might be a gay experience buddy Brian going there like halfway through the thing. They ask are you guys a couple one of the guys a couple of like, no, we're best friends and they're like oh. And then we're like, we're straight and they're like really we were like, oh, yeah. We had never sent messages in either direction. Yeah. But we're out of fuck and beefy concert like singing love at Jones beach would can get gay. Right. I've had the straightest and gay experiences of my life at Jones beach actually without without involving any sex sexuality. It was just like I've seen. Are there? I'll hell you fucking. Straight. I remember like this actually I was there. For jacks mannequin who is opening for them. So actually, it gets straight today share trying but the thing is I remember going to that concert. And I was like sixteen fifteen sixteen years old, and like fully I fucking sue girl at the concert, and then she like went off into the ether can never saw her again until months later, I ran into or out of track camp and upstate New York. And I was like are you a are girl? And she was like are you away our guy, and then we like, I guess grinded on a dance Laura and I had a panic attack and nothing happened. I guess I guess I had about a tag on the and then my other Jones beach experience has me and my best friend at the time. Nick went to go. See the fray long, not a straight thing to do this guy that we knew from high school brought his girlfriend. He's like, what are you guys like meeting people here? He's knows just the two of us. And like it was like a sick thing of like. Okay. Good luck. I it wasn't like open arms wide open thing of amazing strike fifty two. It was like, oh, there's two dudes claiming. Restrain? You're seeing the fray soundtrack to Grey's anatomy. It's funny. You say I worked at Jones beach. Anyone listening to this podcast to talk about it? I was a lifeguard at Jones beach field six and field for you talked about the gays and strata stuff field for is like club four. We used to call it literally guys jeans drinking Coronas hanging out with chicks tanning all over the beach. Very straight stuff was happening there aka it was one summer when I was single. We were like you would just like walk around in your Speedo and hit on girls. But then when I worked at field six apparently field nine which is not an official field. But if you go to field six and head east the grid. It's off the grid and Nassau counties answered a fire island. Okay, you'll nine and sometimes if you you're working all the way in the east stand in old like seventy year old leather tan guy in like an eye patch over his dick and my balls a bathing suit. Balls. We like, I don't think you're you're covering Jesse Aretha, and he would come up, and he was he was eating an ice cream cone like miss the life. God. A character of a person. It's gotta be really fun at and there was like urban legends of Iran back there. And these two guys were suck each other off like. Like for like, young straight kids. They're fucking gay guys. Have it figured out? Well, allegedly. G of gay sex old older life. I've never seen that someone's like I did. Oh my fucking God. We have the voice is burned in my head. It's hello. Miss the life gone own speed owes. Yes, they actually made you wear Speedo usually lifeguard. They didn't make you. You want to be as hydrodynamic as possible. All those times we go. Save lives. We do you gotta enter the ocean baby. How many times have you enter the ocean as as a lifeguard? Tons really wasn't just a thing where it's like a lifesaver in name only. Yeah. No. Because at the beach. It's like Joe, I always say this on the pod Jones beach has like a city bus that can drop you off there. Yeah. So it's a lot of people who aren't as for me with swimming, and maybe are trying to swim and Jean shorts gay. And then also there's currents and stuff that people aren't familiar. I'm never like someone doing CPR type thing Israel. It's just like. Yeah. Kids with their heads up on boogey-boards being like can't unable to come in. We go out and get stuff. I see I was south store fellow. So I did Robert Moses us you were a little further east. M five are m-2 as we used to feel five. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. White-sand great break. Really, I was not a surfer, but I was a biggie border. Oh. I'm Depp ING you up in. I in. Yeah. We used to say the best things in life or done laying boogie border defense against her for it. The body border magazine. Edited my brothers were serious board bags my dad. We went to the beach every single day when we were kids dad would just like we we would lay on our boogie boards instead of on our towels. We would like y parents they like fish. They let let them I was always referenced has a fish. Yeah. My mom would say that's my little water rat. Jonathan he's a little water Matthew in Demi fish Chelsea. She's not a fish. She likes to sit right here. Fish, meghan. She sometime could be a fish are wanna four. I know. Those are my cousin. Okay. Yeah. No, actually, you know, we we weren't beach beach people. But my mom's best friend Elena who was like, our best friend since high school since high school, the she would go to the beach everyday to the point where I thought it was normal to go to the beach every day and be like Brown. Lega schrool another grace another race. Yes. It was she looked so dark, and I just thought well some people do that. They just go to the beach every day, and that's how they look. And now looking back on it. I'm like horrified. In the world that was us because my dad worked three to eleven. So we would go to the beach in the summer. He'd be like the kids are home. I gotta do something the beach every day at eight AM rained. We went to Roosevelt field mall and saw movie, right? Every single day. We went to the beach every single day. My mom was off. We went to the beach. Yeah. My aunt went to the and we were I was thirteen and like Brown, and like not putting on oil, and she would be like put on the SPF force. You can get darker tanning oil and like fourteen trust me like I was like fully identifying metro sexual in high school. And so I was like, oh, we have to be as Tannock as possible and like the tanning gym. And the gym are such a weird part of the island. Yeah. And also, did you do the thing? I know you said you believe share but driven to thing to get more natural blonde. Put the lemon juice in your hair. Oh, hell you are Iraq's. I didn't real- son in. Yes. Rate son in our hair, my hair like. Orange and like the weirdest color embarrassed. Yeah. I remember doing the lemon juice like every day for a week on the Montauk for vacation. And I still can get anything going on. Now, it just it really didn't work by remember knowing though, I didn't bleach my hair I highlighted my hair smart because did you do when you beat the tips? I did frosted tips. Okay. See I looked at that. And I knew I was like this is not going to hold up even at like twelve thirteen fourteen years old when it was all the rage in everyone was doing it like that. Like that probably of just a flip of your hair was blonde member that oh that I'd ever did. That was bad. I did frosted tips where it's like only like all around. But it was I I had routes. I was like an early male Ambrus see that. No. That worked though. Today. See, right. That was very much the pacy because I kind of had a self-proclaimed pacey. Mark McGrath Ricky Martin vibe because that's super tan people said I looked like Ricky Martin. That's how much tanning I was doing tips, and I was sixteen. I'm only Ricky. You look like a Latino people would say, you look Spanish, and it will be a compliment. It was like nothing it shouldn't be a couple. But it's just like it was just so funny. Like, everyone was racing to try to look like as black as possible, honest. I went to spring break in Florida with some Long Island girls that I was loosely friends with. Yeah. We it was like college my friends like so-and-so's going to Florida. They rented a house it's gonna be super cheap. We just have to drive and I'm like, oh, I'll do it. And we kinda were friends with these girls. But it was kind of weird, but it rained like two days and days that it rained. We were there on spring break those girls went to the tanning salon. Yep. See that wasn't ever something. And honestly, I have friends even to this day like friends that are from Rhode Island like Long Island. Jason they'll be like if I'm going on vacation, I have to go to the tanning base the base the base, Dan is huge huge from even now like whenever I do come out here. I mean, the weather's been kind of weird this week or for me. It's weird. It's not fucking hot while it is weird for even LA people. Really? It's rained three days this week and the first three days in like one hundred eighty that it's rained. But the thing is I'm always excited to come out here because I do get a good base. You gotta get that. About that base. But you know, what I used to get a base too is I used to run cross country. And so the wind would give me a base even in the winter. They'd be like, why are you so Tanith January? That's winter track bitch. Yeah. Been out there chapped. Those shredded is hurting I'm in pain base. I have a base in January who can say that. So I used to eventually my family start going on vacation to Florida like senior year of high school or like duly started. Then like software because we used to go to Montauk in the summer all the time that we start driving to Florida like in high school, and it's brutal horrible. But we would get like ten days at like Orlando Saint Augustine like and shit going back to school his tan as possible with a dream to be like how did this happen? Did you go over like president's weak death? When we always vacation in February. We we started going away in February once like I was already working out of college. I was working steadily for one year for I quit and was like unemployment pays as much as being a PA. And I could still go on these auditions that I'm waiting to get right addition during the day flexibility flexibility. I haven't done anything in five days. I I'm the president was when we went away because it was like it was like wasn't going to be too crowded. And it was my I remember my dad was a teacher too. So he had off that that week as well. So we would always go there. But the weather in Florida is very touching go in February. You can get not hot way, you could get forty degree weather. Actually, we were that we were at SeaWorld in fucking park like full coats, and like we still did the water rides. Because my parents were too scared to tell me we couldn't do like anywhere. I wanted. I think we're in Florida were doing this. That was we were in Florida. It was Orlando. It was raining, and we were in the pool because we just like we all insisted on being on vacation. We're here we were aforementioned water rats and were like we were just in the pool, and then someone comes out and goes you guys from Canada. No, we're from Long Island. Hindsight the person's le-. Let's get get out of the pool. Here's the thing. Here's what I want to ask you did growing up on Long Island. I always thought we grew up in like a cool place. And then later on people did start to make fun of Long Island to me. Like when I was in college. Everyone was like oh, Long Island. You know, the jokes like, I actually don't know the jokes. I know none of us. Do that's part of the problem with Long Island is no one knows that. It's not good. Yeah. I know it's like when you're living there, you're like this is paradise. I I have a beach here. And I have the city there. I don't I can't imagine why anything else would be right. And like everyone says exactly what they mean. There's no bullshit here et cetera. Everyone's like looking good and hall. You're Jewish friends Jews. We gotta go hang out with the Jews this weekend. So casually is this fall think your high school is the hood when it has thirty. Maybe we had a black bloc in our town that people call little Africa. It's happened to be like twelve black families lived on on pond rose, and they were like that's a little Africa. Okay. What? Then it's like it's crazy because you do move away. And like you kind of see it from far away. And you're like, oh, yeah. It's highly character. We'll we'll call it highly characterize. Yes. Jersey shore that came on when I was in high school. And I was like, oh, yeah. I get why people are watching it. Because these particular people are crazy. But no, like the whole culture of it is crazy. That's see. I was a little older when I'm a little older than us. And we sure came out I was maybe in post college. And I said to myself this is not new to me. No, none of that was like I was like everyone's like, whoa. This is crazy. These are slightly heightened versions of I went to high school. I was I was everyone. We do you identify as Ronnie, I Ronnie, then once I actually now this is an insane bullshit Hollywood see list celebrity thing once I got to know them. All yeah. I'm more of a Vinnie. I buy that you're of any because we know Vinny now is like does comedy Vinnie is like, I mean, they're all very nice. But video legit like an actual sweetheart. He's I I like to get fucked up and get girls, but at the same time, I know we're family and we bought his mama house. And all that she sweetheart. I gotta say I think I watching the show. I even though I don't really match up with any of them if I had to I think I defy as a light Pauly D, you I see that. I like a hype man kind of like can bring a party like Pauly D. We're having a good. We're having a good host. I don't think so Honey live energy up. DJ Mattie, are honestly, my name is DJ rigor. Tony danza. Is it really? A minute. DJ? Name is DJ. Good fat and in print avocado. Yeah. Honestly, if I had identify with one of the girls, I think I'm probably Jenny. I think I'm Jay. Well. Oh, yeah. Because I'm not fucking Angelina that annoying one. No, I'm not Angelina. And I mean, I'm actually I don't want to admit, I'm probably a snooky and real life. Have you ever met snooky? Yes. I- podcast. Oh, how is that fucking crazy? She's vaping the whole time getting so fucking high. That's all she it was it was so great. We were also drinking percent go. Like, it's heard her her best friend her gay best friend and Bowen, and I went and did it in my colossal Theresa's co host, and we just got stepped into their vibe it was like dark in the studio. She's getting so high. But she's also like a good mom. She's like on let me hold on text. My husband. She's taking calls every five seconds pause. The gave I forget the guy's name, which is horrible. He was like this larger than life character. It truly was like I don't know how Bo and felt but I felt like very weirdly at home. Oh, that's like. Oh, fun. Yeah. No person. I knew Sammi sweetheart I knew girls like. Jenny was like, I'm gonna tell you exactly how it is here. I knew all those people. 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Like, I think like just big enough for everyone to think they knew each other like, you know, what I mean, like everyone knew the names of everyone basics. Super into everyone's business, right? Yeah. It wasn't small enough where it was like mine was like we graduated like two hundred ninety. Hi school for me was weird because it was over pretty great. But I remember I came into high school being like super like consciousness conscious of my closeted nece trying to fit in real back. Yeah. That was my next question. I talked about this a little bit on call. College culture, but you were not out. No, no, no, no, deeply not. And I don't think it's fucking easy. It's just I just had Eliot Glazer on the talk long. Yeah. It's so fun. I've had so many people on the talk Long Island. But I was like we haven't had any gay people on. No, it's a different thing for us. It's very diffe. Because also like, you know, I think people think because it's from the part of New York and people have this association with union people being deadly Democrats. But also socially like, it's pretty conservative. I mean. Yeah. Like, and you know, even the Representative from where I'm from his name's Peter King. He's like a boob funding. I know it got pretty close this time for Ubah Gretchen who went up against him. But my dad like, my parents are like Democrats, they're they're very critical of him. But I was bummed to see that he's still kicking around there, especially because it's been so fucking long because the labor deliver union people are Democrats in that they want to support the union, but they're not like as watch two gay guys kiss. Also like that fifty born in the fifties. Blue collar attitude, but those are the much religion and a lot of religion. Because either whether it's Judaism or. Oh, yeah. Because it's a talion Jews. Oh, yeah. No. No, no. The we talked about this a little bit with I talked about little bit with Elliot to. But there is there's something about that. Where everyone on Long Island already feels like they've been persecuted. Even if they are upper middle class, and they they bought a house on everyone shoulder because it's like win that big city focal these dumb southerners city for real. We're real we're blue-collar. Like, that's where you would hear a lot of the Italians were the first blacks, you know, shit like that or like the Irish were persecuted to hear shit like that. And you're like gosh guys people in my family of said it to me, and it's just like, wow, they are the hardest people to discuss privilege with. Yes, they don't because they. It was hard for them yet. So it's hard for them to see outside of we're talking. Also, it's a generational thing too. 'cause we're talking about the generation that might like the example in some friends we're talking about Ben Rogers and Ryan like my dad would hit me on the ass and spank me, and I was like one of a few kids that got spanked, but he would be like my father used to actually kick my ass. So it's okay because it's less bad than what happened to style Japan, and they backing love it. Lina stodgy back in the day. You know, they think that because they had it a certain way that's better or the way that it should be. And we are sheltered put in reality. It's like, no, I'm sorry. What you went through was actually fucked up and probably something you should deal with right? The fact that anyone is hurting someone else as retribution for something. It's fucking bad. If so I think it's because they got it's no one its faults. Really? I mean, I guess anyone can choose to change. But it's like, you know, hard to it's hard to especially if you've now the more you learn via therapy, and like psycho gets hard to learn to not be abusive. If you were abuse, I'll say this. I mean, like when I was coming out of the closet like I really nineteen say that it was happening. I told all my work friends went to NYU. So I did a whole freshman year of we have a a friend in common Carly foam. Oh, curler full-on. Yeah. Yeah. She's one of my good friends from college. I'm like, she's a casting director. That's how I know. She. Cast me in a movie called fourth van out a gay coming of age drama. I love boy. And she messes me when I did less culture Isa's really shut out to Carly foam. Oh, so. On the casting director down in New York. But I think when I was coming out, so yeah, I knew Carly my freshman year, actually, when I was like, quote, unquote, straight still, and then the way it worked at like the hierarchy of it was like, I told my work friends. I at the restaurant I worked Nikki zone. The bay in Bayshore. Also, we have a connection there. Because I told you my friend was your manager. Oh, wait, you're Calabria's girls. Yes. Okay. How was her first name? It was either Kelly or Christine because there's three of them. And so their mom is my mom's childhood best friend. Yes. So that's like her mom is my aunt. They're my cousins, quote, unquote. Yeah. Yeah. I think she might have worked at the clam bar because she she asked me when I did when I posted a picture of for Los. Oh, yeah. No. I definitely remember what the best part of Long Island. This is what we call Jewish geography. Even if you're not a lot to say where are you from? Oh, you went to Herrick. Do you know so and so connecting connecting connect sometimes you get there. And then oftentimes, I also think it's like, oh, you're from wear, and then you say the name of talent and the name of a town where like cool we've heard of that. Yeah. And it's like. Koepenick ronkonkoma. Everyone's favorite one is the finest Concha it really works whole lake run Concha. That's where my brother goes to get his tattoo done. Well, Joe, but I feel like the work friends eases tell because it was like I didn't really care. What what they thought? It was they react any I feel like seventeen to twenty two year olds that are working. Yeah. A little more independent. You know what I mean? Like, those are told many times literally sixteen year old bus girls. I was like the one girl this girl I worked with like my brothers gay. But like I told him like, it's fine. But I don't wanna hear about it. And that's actually like a prevailing. I think ideology about now. But like, it's fine. We we we like it. But we we don't wanna hear about it. And it's your business. But that's also like a weird lie. It's fucking non hope. Exactly. Don't want to hear. If you go like Ella, bats, you're free. You're homophobic, your fear should not affect. Yeah. Also, I don't wanna hear about most of my most people's sex lies being gay is not like, yeah. I understand you're gay. But stop telling me about bud fucking. Yeah. I never talk to you know, wasn't what I was going to lead with here today. But I remember like I told them my high school friends. I kinda like, you know, told the girls first, and then the guys, and I remember my best friend. He was the hardest attell because I was like, well, if he doesn't accept me then fuck it doesn't matter. Right. And then I told my mother and then a year passed before I got the gumption up to tell my dad because it was a secret with you and your mother in that was hard. And that was hard handle she she said, well, are you going to tell your dad, and I was like, I think I need time to tell my dad, and then she was like, okay. Well, you know, I think that do what you're going to do. But the thing is like, you know, in a'marriage, you're not really supposed to have secrets. And I was like, okay. Well, I'll tell you know, when I'm ready, and so then she called me one day. When I was at school. And she was like, okay. So here's what I think will happen. You'll come home like for spring break. We'll all sit down, and we'll pretend that you're telling us both of the same time in olive act like not surprised, but I'll be supportive. I'm with you. But like I'll act like I'm hearing it for the first time. And I got so mad. I was like, I can't believe you're making this about you. I was like made me and she was like well, and then she got really kind of like nervous. And I was like do you ever think that like I understand you have this relationship with your husband, and there's there's like supposed to be like transparency there? But what about your relationship with me? I'm asking you to do. I'm I need your help. We have to supersede. I was like this is not about you. Right. It's just not. And she was like you're a hundred percent, right. Just tell them by yourself. And then if he asked me if I knew I don't know we'll deal with that. But that's not your responsibility, and it kind of. Yeah. It was it was the first time where I kinda thought to myself because you know, growing up your parents say, we're right about everything. My dad used it literally tell me, I know everything, and that's the way that they keep their, and that's kind of when I kind of started to like step into like my own identity and kind of become wasn't. I told my mother that it was the very first time I ever like told my parents something, and I was like, no, you know, what I actually have lived in experience. Do I have a piece of information that you don't have? And you don't understand and I do right? And so I think that like finally telling my father who was great about it. I mean emotional about it. But great that was tough because it was like it was also watching him deal with new information because this is new to a lot of people who are in their fifties. And sixties, you know, what I mean like this whole thing. And then forget about like understanding trans issues. Now, I'll tell you like the way that my father has changed in the last decade. I'm so grateful for and he sits in front of the fucking television. He watches the news all day. My poor mother. Listen to it. He fucking hates Trump with a burning passion. It's it's different. I see him engaged politically in a way that he never really was. I think because nobody really was that's one thing you have to give the new kind of social atmospheres. It's like, everyone cares. I only started carrying like mid Obama. Right. You know what? I mean. It was only because he like lit me up. An interesting example is didn't even like when Bush was president. Like, I didn't think I was. I was young. I was naive and it was bad. And yeah, I was like, I know he's bad. Yeah. But I don't know why. And also again, I should say this is coming from privilege as white straight male who could afford to go to college that nothing like that was even touching me. Right. But I was like a little lip tarred running around. But I just also didn't realize how much I was benefiting from a broken system to to save time. But yeah, I mean this my dad my dad got when my dad was dying. A while he had brain cancer, you got surgery, and he was in recovery for awhile. And he kind of during that time he was like watch he worked for the news. He worked for FOX, actually. But not Fox News, FOX five a local New York. Right Elliott worse. And he he was watching the news kind of plugged in. And he was like when Obama was running for the second term with that. Where does that play? Now, it would have been twelve twenty two thousand eight was the first time. Yeah. So because he died in two thousand and ten to two thousand eight Obama's running. He can't go vote because he's in the hospital, and he sends them my mom who doesn't vote who doesn't do anything. Just does whatever her wealthy. Widow friends told her to do she he goes you have to go vote for Barack Obama for me. And that's weird for my dad who was kind of casually. He like was an important. He knew is important. But he was like the kind of dude who would like not be happy that it looked black kids were being sketchy near the house or something like that would be the guy with. But then I watched him kind of get away. From on that and sort of like understand that his poor upbringing was like kind of similar to other people's, and it was like a very, and then when he was he got like fully, he's it's bullshit that Johnston has all this college debt, you know, it's Bush any start like seeing these. Like, he becomes an interesting guy dies, like six months motherfucker almost were able to start connecting. I know. Right. I think when you start to actually confront real shit in your life. That's when you start to like. And that's thing is it's like all these kind of people, I know from Long Island who are like Trump supporters like extended family members of mine who it's difficult for me to talk to now connect with they think they've had experiences, and they think they've had hard shit go down, but they haven't really left like the small bubble of where they're from. You get a lot of that. You get a lot of like, look I've been around the block I'm forty I've done things. And it's like, yeah. But you've done you've been around in this literal. Exact you've been to the. You have to ask people how many restaurants, do you? Go to do you have favorite ones. Tire family to pad Thai last Christmas. Wow. Yeah. Wow. Yeah. I don't think we knew walk was. I didn't know I didn't I didn't have sushi until I was twenty one in college, and my then girlfriend now wife was like we're gonna get sushi on my fish. And I like found myself reiterating shit, my blue collar where you're not gonna even fucking cookie, bro. You know? And then I haven't no, Mike. This is absolutely amazing. I know it's crazy like when when people are forced to open there is a little bit crazy things happen. And that's what's so frustrating. I think about like the Trump stuff is it's like, these aren't unintelligent people. And that's that's what bothers me is it's like and you've seen them around on other things. Yeah. Tell you what else is fucked up like in my extended family. There's a there's one very wealthy family and one very very middle class, maybe even lower middle class family, and they vote they both vote for Trump. And I'm like, you guys don't see this is different. I have one aunt who's like complaining about her taxes and her billiards room and one aunt who lost a lot of stuff to sandy. And she's like strata, and they both think they're going to get the same. How could you possibly get both the same things out of the same? It's out of that, man. I will say for long islanders to lefty long islanders here. Trump is very similar to the Long Island. Like, he's. Yes, he's objectively kind of funny. Yeah. He like, I hate to goes a long way to admit it. But he's like he's funny in the Long Island way where he's like a bit of a bully a bit of dick. I mean, he's from queens. But he he knows long to talk to the people. He he golfs he sort of is like what my mom loves him. My mom thinks he's. Handsome. Wow. Because well because he looks kind of like my dad just fucked up for me to deal with fuck. But like, my mom also would go to Atlantic City all the time and go to Trump and be like, wow. And my mom can't acquaint like anything. But like money is success. That's another problem with Long Island to that. And it's because everyone is middle class and scrape a lot of middle class scraping for more or people who got rich and now live on Long Island. I think money is equal success. What? And it's like arguably money equals intelligence money equals. You know? What I mean where it's like. Well, she's rich. Let's listen to her, and it's also basically segregated. I mean like this whole town's where where where they're like no of as like like in white circles. Oh, that's like a black town. Yes. It's like this weird melting pot. It's like it's still town to town because I grew up in freeport, where I was a the white people were a minority. And then I in seventh grade I moved to Belmore and white, and there was like ten black kids my mentor, and I went from being like one of ten kids, and I only moved like four miles to towns, and it was a completely different. And I'm like, yeah. And then there's like Roosevelt Uniondale, like these towns when you say them, you know, that they're blackouts. How is this Long Island is like, and that's why when even our experiences on Long Island are not even exactly the Long Island experiences kind of. And they also think that because of that reason they think they know diversity they think they have diversity on. Well, you mean we see so many of them. You know what I mean? It's like, Meanwhile, I think I knew to Asian people growing up, right, maybe. And now, you're contractually obligated to hang out with one off the rest of my life. Not a bad deal with his nose. You do worse. The thing is when I was growing up like in my high school like I started the there was two elementary schools. There was komax road which was north of Montauk. And then there was Sherwood elementary school, which was south the Montauk, Montauk. Kyw way sunrise highway for us Nassau kit. Yes. So forty seven if you're looking at shirt, so like, basically if you could afford to live down by the water, you had the money, and if you were above that street, you were not by the water, and you didn't have the money. That's northbound more and southbound same thing North American south marriage. And so I remember when the two schools combined, I started to make a lot of friends with the south of Montauk kids, and my mom was like, oh, you hanging out a lot in south south of Montauk. And I was like what are you talking about? She was like, I you don't understand. Now, they had like a beach club fucking beach club. Let's now let me ask one more question about south of Montauk. What by the way? See I told you is going to be Arthur has put so many gifts on my last literally all four of his toys. Thank you. And now he's passed out. It's been exhausting giving the Christmas season. He knows that. And it's also fucking tiring. Doing all your shopping right now, take a break get on Amazon. Where the south of south of Montauk kids Jewish now because stealth shore there were no Jews, but in in Merrick in southbound more, and that was what it was. It was the rich kids lived on the other side, and they happen to all of them happen to be Jewish and then our junior highs the way bellmore Merrick worked was does like eight entry schools, and then like a couple of junior highs. But one major junior high where all the Kennedy, which is the the southbound more the rich neighborhood. Who went to Kennedy? I think Lindsay Lohan or she went to Calhoun that would make sense, but like Kennedy's rich school Kennedy and the kids all went to junior high together. So I'd like a plethora of these friends I had four seth's I went to four different bar mitzvahs. I used to love the name Seth and didn't know it was a Jewish name my kids seven and someone was like you're not Jewish ears name. That's why I like I thought it sounds like a hot guys like the guy's name that I used to love growing up. It's so long. I love like Trent. I loved Brent girls names. I loved growing up like if a girl is named brook. I was like fuck. I know I used to say like if I ever have a daughter Ashley rose, which is the fucking stupid shit. I've ever heard in my life. All right. Any Ashley roses out there? Nationally rose is a fine name. If you're if you're born in two thousand eighteen you can't be named that. If you're thirty and that's your name now that fine John's. There was going are Jonathan's in my junior. I'm Jonathan that's why everyone calls me Gabriel's since I was thirteen because you gotta differentiate and I've said this on the pod before. But I want to let you know, my group of friends in junior high. We were called the Johns and the mics four John's five mics and like an Andrew by last night. And so every one of those guys still goes by their last name. I'm we're all almost forty and some guys own deli. Some guys a lawyers. Some guys are married guys. Aren't we all everyone still knows each other by their last name? Yeah. Yeah. In Reese, diminished, go young Ling, Oz ner Gabor's. And that's why I'm Mat Rogers, not Matt. I no one ever just says maybe my immediate friends like Sudi Bowen, they call me, Matt right? But like f- to everyone else, I met Rogers. I also think it's at three syllable name three. Civil name is a great. You'll always be or if you're a two syllable name like you're like John Smith, everyone always. Call you John's. Yes. Yes. Yes. But I remember growing up it was like so frustrating because at the time I liked it because I blended in I was Mat Rogers, I mean. Yeah. And now it's like there's a fucking fuck ton of Mat Rogers says you can go on Google search and Bryan Sykes a name that a superhero would have. Yes. In like, his alternate identity. It'd be like mad Rogers perfect famously Steve Rogers. The most famous of all yeah. But that was I never felt unique. And also my middle name estate me a lot about this. But my middle name is Richard. So they say met dick Rodgers love that my middle. Name is. Looking like this. You don't have to tell me that your middle. Name is dick when you have that Jean jacket? Yeah. I I had some some mustache issues recently. I saw I should tell you this. I saw mission possible fallout will Seaney Henry Caveau, and he's rocking mustache in it. And he's looking kind of buff. And he's playing sort of like a very funny dorky character. And I like there's a moment where he like flexes a little bit. And I felt something I haven't felt towards a man since. Well, a guy was like, I literally the joke I made after an said this on the path I made the joke, and I was like I need to find out from someone of this offensive to say, but he makes me wanna ask more about the q. What exactly is the cube, and you'd be pretty much straight? But sometimes dude. There's a spectrum. So I guess I guess they'd call me at Kinsey six gay full gay not interested in women. Yeah. But there are the Kinsey want Kinsey once killed that would be completely heterosexual. But you might be a one point three. Point three. We were saying no we injured Tarver had this conversation is like no one should be Kinsey one. He goes Kinsey. However, I wonder he he seems like a four or five to me. Yeah. I think I. I. He does what he needs. Female casting director on straight. He he was like, no one should be like all one hundred zero and the Kinsey scale, and we start joking that Kinsey, if you're zero you're probably in jail. And then if you're in jail, you're getting sixth getting the shit six thousand. Honestly. And then you leave a solid three. What I know. I've come this far. But no, I never ever ever ever fucked girls. Never never had the interest like truly terrifies me. And I think that like I had a girlfriend in high school like, you know, we would make out like we would go. We would have one data week Sunday afternoon we go to applebees by fall asleep. That's why she thought you were straying Applebee's. Take take her there in my Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo nineteen ninety-five. Drove a Jeep Cherokee sports here. It was green car. I got a college graduation gift really wanted it so bad, and then I moved to New York City and got sold it in one year. Without my without my well to be honest, it was there fucking car. But they bought it for me, whatever that whatever they please. I remember they sold the car, and I it was like truly devastating actually named car. Jeff after my driving instructor who was a fucking crazy person. I had a freak driving instructor freaks. They have to be. Yeah. I think they just want to sit in the car with kids all day that's already fucked up. I mean parents don't want to drive around with their kids in the car. Now. This is a strange man who will let other kids drive him in the concept of that driver. Whole driver's Ed program is fucking crazy you they put us together. And it was meet me and my two friends and this one random guy me my friends Kenyan Kevin. And this guy this guy Kwok we only by his last name. He was one of the very few Asian people. I knew we call them Kwok, and then Jeff who made us call little Jeffey. He. He was not little little Jew. And he had like he looks like like an ad for a pedophile. It was like come get the pedophile here. They looked like this. It was very that. If I can quote, our friend, Donald Trump, a central casting pedophile say central he loves central casting. This guy was fucking crazy. I don't wanna play who's driving instructor was crazier. That's Lil Jeffey told you the specifics go, I just don't tell tell you. This is the one specific of my driver's instruc- for it. First of all he made us all eventually learn something called like, ladies and jelly spoons at come before you to stand behind you to tell you something you already know like some weird, and you still to this day, and it stuck out. But also he drew for it was like a three week program or whatever he always wore a latex glove like a rubber gloves. You're in the lead with the fingers cut off what I think he had like a skin disease on his palm that he was like embarrassed about ask about it. We were horrified to talk to him about it. Dude, heat is weak to it. So he just had like a weird rubber glove on his hand. We were like, I mean central casting pedophile hundred. It'd be like it's my driving glove people are so fucking weird. Let me share little Jeffey made us comb little Jeffey he and his glove compartment had. Cut to right now, you have a son he comes home. He goes dad my driver's instructor or anyone I know his name you'd be like out you're out of there. We're gonna move honestly, it's so fucked up, but I grew to kind of like this person quirky, and like I liked it. While tell you why we liked him. But like he had porn in his in his glove compartment. So you pull it off and say, this one's my girlfriends, and he he would swear that they were really dating. And he would say we were like, you're not we we've technically I think showing pornography to minors does make him a pedophile at this point. Sure. He's legally think we saw like nipples and pussy. But I think it was like they were pornographic softcore. Yeah. And so basically he was like, that's my girlfriend right there. And there she isn't another pitcher. And we were like we literally because I was two of my friends, and we were like, you don't date this girl. And he was like, yes, I do fucking India's. I do Jeffey dates whoever he wants today. He would cut lessons short when he got pissed at us. He'd be like fucking. I don't like you guys today. We're going back or he would take us to checkers, and we've sit in the checkers, you guys sit over there and order that you eat this checkers, and I'm gonna fucking sit in the car for the rest of the time. Oftentimes, he'd be like, we're not gonna learn anything today. We're gonna go to checkers, and we we would always go to checkers or sonic one time went to. There was one sign on the island. I never been assigned grumbling over by Hofstra. It was on or whatever. But then he made us made us go one hundred miles per hour on sunrise highway to see to see what felt like that's actually not a terrible idea in a weird way in a strange way, it made sense to us. So that we were like like flagrantly breaking the law. Right. You know what? I mean. I when my buddy. Got his driver's license and got a Volkswagen Jetta as everyone among island once I car sure, we took it down ocean Parkway, right by Jones beach and got it up to one hundred ten miles an hour in the car was like rattling and flying. And eventually he told someone and someone was like you had friends in the car. Right. And they were like, yeah. And he was like, oh good. Because like if you didn't like those cars are a little too light. You can like blow all over the road like. Hey, let's go to become truly thinking. You can never die. Right. That's crazy that Jeff one of the things he used to use racial slurs. He'd see like black people in the street and just call them and word just yell it out. That's so fucking teaching. Can he was teaching us who were sixteen? That's. The last detail for my driver's, Ed. And I pass my test on the first time some fucking how hell yeah. I got one. I got one Nick on my road test because I didn't look like a third direction when I was parallel park. So you didn't pack. Pat graduate. I passed on the first time I did one I did too. I I I was taking my driver's test in my mom's car, which was a Seib ring, which were super sensitive. So you'd put your gas on you put your foot on the gas and the thing with fucking fly. But I remember it was a little sensitive suburbs being tentative. And so I think there was some issue with a stop sign where like I stopped and it was too jerky. And she was like I mean, she didn't like that. And then my parallel park was not perfect. But I think statistically she didn't have the points right during the parallel park. I didn't like look a third time. And I got like a little so fucked up and now here, I am like I'm probably come back out here for pilot season due February March on here, and I don't know how to fucking parallel parked at all. And you need to know. And I moved out here six years ago. My wife has a parking spot in the back. I don't I've been street parking for six years now. I'm awesome at parallel parking to be good. I never felt like more like a dad than being like, oh, I can get in there that makes me feel like such a man, and I'm not like that at. And it's oh one last thing I got on the first day of driver's, Ed. I have me and my best friend Chris at the time and two other kids. We don't know we all take it together. He's been driving a lot with his mom and dad driven once and I'm like he's like who wants to go first. And I'm kinda scared. I'll go first, and he's like the confident driver, and we're like nice we make a left off of him to turnpike. And we get fucking t-boned on the first day of driver's Ed the first kid driving, eight minutes into the class. We get absolutely T-Bone. I get hit the see I'm sitting in shut car hits the side of it hurts no one gets hurt. The cars kind of banged up the cops come and the cops like this isn't a driver's license. And he goes, I know in driver's Ed like all this shit and the driver's Ed instructors got the glove on all the shit gets wrapped up the accent. They all exchange information, and he's all right, which one are you guys is driving home. And I'm like absolutely shook. And he's like he got learned to drive eventually John and I got in the front seat. My. I Dave driver said right after the car was in an accident and drove back to where the car was fucked up the car was fun. Yeah. It was terrifying. Terrified I think I've been in man, I got pulled over for speeding actually coming from my job in the marina. I was fucking lying out of the marina. And this this cop pulled me over and that was fucking scary. And then I've been two accidents. I one was like on the belt Parkway, which was fucking horrible because it's so busy. And I know it's like six lanes. Also, wasn't my fault. The guy in front of me was tailgating the car in front of him and he hit him and then like the guy behind because I stopped the guy behind me hit me. And of course, what happened to fuck in. Knuckleheads in front of me who like caused the accident drove off because they had like a gentleman degree, man. And then I'm stuck there to cop comes. So the other time was I did I act this happened. I'm making a right hands right out of the parking lot of my high school kid flies out on a bike. A fucking key comes out. He I hit the kiss. He hit you. He decided he flew out of the middle of the road. He like wasn't paying attention. I'm making a right hands are, and I had the green light is just was like a moment of craziness has. Okay. He was. Okay. But like he did he broke his wrist. Right. Was he wasn't. Okay. But like it wasn't like happen. Yeah. You don't have nightmares. Not like tortured by this every day. But I remember I didn't get a ticket because it was ruled in accident because a fully was like these things happen. Of course, the insurance, my parents and turns took a huge hit. But I that's another reason why I'm happy. I don't drive, and I'm kind of anxious to come out here and drive, which I know is not a great state of mind to be and when you're about to drive, but when I was in general. It's fucking freaked me out. I know it'll. But that's the thing is also now you've been living in New York City for so long. So you haven't been driving. So I sort of got the same feeling when I first moved out here. But all it is a matter of is like the second you drive for one more like oh my God. Right. This is really easy. You just forget that it's easy. It's truly muscle memory. And I used to drive all the time in high school when I was coming back and forth from college for a couple years, but it's just been a solid decade of me really not doing exacting. I didn't drive for like nine years to come out here. And it's different out here. It's like exits on both side of the road, kind of a little complicated. But I find the driving out here to be a lot like Long Island weird parkways that are kind of hard to understand which one goes where but more importantly, all these main thoroughfares like sunset and Melrose. And Beverly they all feel like or hillhurst, even they all feel like Hempstead turnpike Jerusalem road sunrise highway strip mall strip mall strip mall. If you make a left here. It's the suburbs. Make a right there. It's a strip mall again, it feels like Long Island in that way. You gotta get used to LA driving like that. I got I hit a parked car. When I was seventeen in front. I was looking driving home back to class after Taco Bell looking at a garage sale crashed into a parked car. The people at the garage sale. All look to me. I panic drive my car to school get my friends out. I go if I leave the car here, they're gonna think we're high school kids. I gotta bring this car home and hide it. So I hide my car nearby school cops come is that a hit and run. It's technically hit and run is that fill in. I don't know. But here's the crazy part. The the cops come to the school in are looking around. We don't know what they're looking for. It could be my car. The end of the story will help explain maybe it wasn't. They were like looking around the school. They don't see a car that has a big damage on it. I call the police later on that day like attack did anyone reported hit and run on camp avenue. I feel terrible. And they're like, no, no reports in my wealth. Anyone reports a hit and run please call this number give my mom's house number because I was the one who did. And it's like, okay. I'm just real quick. If no one does call am. I in trouble for telling you this if we know, and I was like, okay. And then for like three days, I was like, no one call and the no one ever call it. Didn't learn my lesson. I washed my friend committed hit and run and nothing and like people who own the car like came out and saw that it was it was like fucked up, and they never called the police either. I people must like just kind of feel like that's the way of the road. People must be like I can't get involved with like insurance and cops onto sketches. Honestly, it is a fucking pay mass. Oh, I just took a women's door off on Melrose. She opened up her car door as I was driving. I didn't see it. So she opened it like, right? As I got there. And I was in the right lane. She was parked far enough from the curb, and she just swung her door open. I fucking didn't even see it just hurt. It bugged out thought. I didn't know what I hit. I thought I clicked mirror maybe or something I pull over it's right here by the Hollywood improv around the block. I don't wanna convey where I live, but I pull over and I'm like, I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry as I walk up like a group of like cigar smoking. There's a cigar bar over there. And is a group of dude smoke as guards and take a picture, look how far away she is from curb get over your look, look, look, look take picture take picture. And I was like I'm so sorry. And she was like clearly like on Paxil or something. I'm really just nervous. You know, that was your fault. I'm I don't know if it was my, but it's horrible. And I haven't had a car now for ten days because I got that. I'm getting it quote, unquote fixed. But it's a lease. So I gotta get it all fixed. Oh my God. Yeah. And it's heroin also shaking trying to take photos yet the exchange between you and the other person. That's it's just never good. When I when when that guy when that accident happened. I literally said to him like, I was like will you shouldn't. I I'm not confrontational. And I was like, well, this is your fault. You tailgating him like, this is crazy. And then like he was like, and this is like an older, man. I'm twenty years older than me that I ordinarily would call, sir. I know fuck this. I I lost my cool 'cause it's really test who you are those moments. Oh, that's that's the moment. When you feel like an adult is when you're dealing with your own mistake when you're dealing with like your own action is when you feel like this is what real life is. That's like the that's when people say like, you don't know what real life is you get in a car accident. You have to deal with it on your own or like there's like. A weird health thing that you have to deal with with like, multiple doctors and multiple health insurances. Yeah. Not until that moment when you start to be like also this country is fucking everything is run. And clearly if you just have more money everything's okay? And it's like humiliating and also you have to deal with this self righteous gay kid behind you. Did nothing wrong with dealing with your shit fucking decades. He's ready. He's ready bringing ready to tell you what fucking you are decades worth of ammo into the conversation. Well, it sure you out of the car with a capon skydiving. Looking like this all Denham mustache like shallows blasting from the Koch. Of the normal heart. Wait, we have talked about this previously. So I would be remiss to let you leave high and mighty without coming up. I saw a star is born to our friend Allie or ally alley sh that movie was fucking awesome. I loved the thing is like, I this is crazy. He didn't live up to the hype you created for it. I would say, yes. And you can rated quite a bit of hyper. Here's the thing to how bad because that movie have been you know, what I mean, it could have been so fucking bad. Think about verse time director who knows if this guy can do that. Right. It's got lady Gaga in a movie, which I mean, we saw I watched American horror story, and it was fun. But you didn't get actress from that could have been a fucking disaster. The supporting cast on paper looks like a joke. It's Andrew dice clay dice clay Chapelle in this musical drama like fucking. Like the rest of the and like, it's just say, I'm Elliot. You do. Okay. But it's still a weird wild card, and then also they're setting it in country music and her name was Allie. She's a pop star name alley. I'm like, okay. So we've got every wrong choice being made. Yeah. And then to see the trailer. It was like, wow. This actually looks good. And then the movie I think, especially the first forty five minutes of the movie are fucking amazing. And then the second half. It's like it gets a little like melodramatic, which which. Which? But you know, I get people's criticisms of an ice. I have my own. I don't think you should go see a country music drama musical and expected to not get like a little saccharine. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But no fucking loved it. And I actually did see a four times the first week. And this is why. So I was interviewing one Shangila NBC's. Explain Shangila one of the drag queens. I was in the movie, I got interview. And so I got invited to a press green and the night before. So I saw that I had tickets opening night with Alva gays like thirty five of us were in there. I sat next to like, but when Yang and Aaron Jackson, and like like, everyone was the funniest gay group. Just truly we were screaming. What's Josh's name to sharp sharp? So I went to Rin side story real quick. We'll get back to Charleston for the comedy fest. Yeah. Used to be like the sloppiest most alcoholic people the one the last year. I went like Aaron Josh there. I'm like this getting unfair. Now, it's like young hands. Gay guys because it's a beach trip. So everyone's in bathing suits, like I like the better when it was like me, Bobby ethnic Tamminen. I wasn't. I felt Grosso Brandon gardeners. They're like all buff and Gardner wonder if he knows how hot is he he has he was my low one feel a little Zadie, right? He's definitely feeling Zadie especially these days, and you'd better be full blown better get together. The second time with this with a group of gays and that was that was that. I went home that Friday. The next day. My mom was like guess what? I gotta stick it to go. See a stars was like all right? We're going to that. So you went that Friday. And then I had promised my friends that I would see it with her on Sunday. So then I was like, okay. So I fully seen this movie four times in five days. I have not seen it since. But I do I could probably say, I know everywhere if I have the screener and we intend to watch it again. Did they send up the sag screeners ready? I don't know if it sag or writers guild writers. Yeah. You know, I you sell one script five years ago, and you twenty five dollars a quarter forever. I need to get another writing writers guild because I think those like nominations are out, right? Yeah. I think that's what it is. Okay. I love that movie. My wife saw with her friends and was like I'm like I really wanted to see that. And she's like I'll go with you again twice. And she's it's really good. And I always joked the joke was when she starts doing that. That really got to me like, I really like it's emotional and then in the scene in the movie when he goes, all you gotta do is trust me. And that's why I've added it's all you're gonna do me. I started tearing up at that moment. And I kind of didn't stop tearing up. I don't believe you openly. I mean like I cried several times from a family of alcoholics. So like I have bringing some weight in there, and I have like dad and brother issues like all the classic shit hit on all the elements. And I thought Gaga was fucking amazing. She my wind winter fucking Oscar for it, which is crazy. She should. And I I will just be the Oscars win if she if her and Bradley sing that song at the Oscars will win right like the Oscars benefit from the fact that that song will be performed live by those two on the Oscars. I'm so fucking pass because we just the podcast. So we're going on tour and we'd realize we booked date in San Francisco on the Oscars. Just like who that would come to our show is going to be like. Oscar's Oscars in Las Culturas is a perfect circle. I thought to myself maybe we should like play it wh-what. Maybe it could be like an last coach recess host host to Oscars event instead of and I don't think so any, but now, I don't know. And I'm getting into the nuts and bolts, that's and you can't make any promises at this point. Let's let's talk a little bit about this last culture says on tour we're going onto our so we do a show. I don't think so Honey live which you've done I up last did not know what I was doing at all it was absolutely fucked up. And I was in too early of group. It's so Beasley fifty comedians or thirty on our tour in all the cities, they get up, and they do a one minute rant on something in pop culture that they hate. So we did it the other night at the region in LA was fun. We did it at the bell house last week in New York. It's been very cool. Every time we come. We've got great people to do it. And so now we're taking on the road. And we're gonna go to Portland Seattle Vancouver. J F L Vancouver. We're doing San Francisco we're going to Dallas Houston and Austin moon tower and Austin, that's or to Billy. We're doing Boston. We're doing DC. That's awesome. Can people get tickets at like last culture system calmer record this tickets came out today? So whenever this comes out tickets will be out. Okay. Like, I don't know where they can get them. But on the Torstar because this might come out in the new year. Just hey, so the torture in February. Oh, perfect January tour starts February tickets are on sale. Now, look for your city find it and go see I wish I could tell you where to go look for a I don't fucking now. You'll be able to search last culture Reese this live. Fucking monster my answer on west promoting my shits. He'll be there. What what are your Rogers? Mat Rogers, though, T H O Rogers, though, Mat Rogers, though, I love that follow Matt go see Matt and Boeing and thirty other comedians do. Get to work a book and pretty soon. I guess because you gotta find thirty comedians and Seattle I had to book blended worked at us anelle now. So now, I'm like kind of like the defacto last countries this Booker, so like I had to book fifty comedians in New York and LA offer this week. It's been fucking crazy. But I'm putting my head down in looking for comedians to do it. So if you guys are in those cities and your comic, let me know, please at and also news. For real. Actually, I was on this puck. And they're like you. Don't get news from no ask. Fans sin news at Gabor's. If you have nudes. I prefer boobs over Dick's. But whatever he might be one point three on the kids in jail. If you if you are Henry Ville, you send me whatever the fuck, you want whatever you want seriously fucking to come over and break my arm, and he wants to I wanted to watch fall out on the plane just to see him again. I'm not using my mind. He's handsome subjective. Yeah. Matt this has been so fun. 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And so years later in one thousand nine hundred sixty nine Richard and fellow native activists drew up their own deal for Alcatraz. We wish to be fair dealings with the Caucasian inhabitants of this land and hereby offer the following treaty. We will purchase Alcatraz island for twenty four dollars and glass, beads and red Claude a precedent set by the white man's purchase of a similar island about three hundred years ago. Richard had a sparkle in his eye. He looked over Alcatraz with the dream of creating an indigenous mecca Richard canoe described for me, again, what it is you hope to build build a nation. From NPR and through media is likely USA percent. And today the story of Richard Oakes. Founding leader of the red power movement. In the late nineteen sixties organizations like the Black Panthers, the Brown berets and the young lords were starting to national conversation about equal rights and protections. At the same time, an indigenous rights movement, the red power movement was also gathering steam, Richard Oakes. A charismatic citizen of the mohawk nation was one of its founders. And he advocated resistance through reclaiming land from the white, man. Alcatraz would become a symbol of native resistance for indigenous people of all tribes and the red power movement would lay down the foundation for future native movements like standing rock. And so today, we're telling the story of the life of Richard Oakes from how he got involved in the red power movement, and the occupation of Alcatraz to his untimely death. When he was shot in the heart at the young age of only thirty producers Genesee Mogam and on join us at a he'll tell us his story from the beginning. Picture Brooklyn in the early nineteen fifties back when the dodgers were sold the Brooklyn Dodgers there live, the small family, two brothers and their single mom. The eldest brother was named Richard Oakes. Richard Emmett's brother had a typical childhood they played stickball in the streets. Walk their dog and watch the Perry Como show at home. Everyone thing. But there's lice of Brooklyn was unique the oaks family lived in a thriving indigenous community of roughly seven hundred mohawk people and many of these mohawk people were Iran workers in the nineteen thirties skyscrapers like the Empire State building. And the Chrysler building we're filling New York City skyline and he was often mohawk ironworkers that assembled the steel skeletons beam by beam the majority of these mohawk ironworkers settled in the Gewandhaus neighborhood in Brooklyn Ghana, why gay and aqua sauce name Mohawks moved to the city from the reservations in Canada northern New York seeking opportunity, but they often face discrimination applying for work since iron working was a job that not many wanted to do it required being one hundred feet in the air without a safety harness, many Mohawks fill these jobs, there was even a bar in the neighborhood called the wigwam. It's closed now. But there used to be a sign posted over the door that read the greatest iron workers in the world pass through these doors in the summers. Richard's mother would send him and his brother talk with SaaS. Ni the reservation where Richard was born. The boys were still very exposed to mohawk traditions like lacrosse, which has been whitewashed by white guys in college. But is also a cultural tradition of many tribes, including the mohawk and Onen doggone nations. Richard would wear and Onen dog lacrosse jacket when the streets of Brooklyn in some of the kids in the other neighborhoods, will you kind of pick on them a little bit. That's Kent Blanchette professor of native American studies at the university of Nebraska Omaha. He's also the author of a journey to freedom a biography of Richard Oakes. And he's native to. Richard grew into a strong young man over two hundred pounds and over six feet tall. He started hanging out with neighborhood native gangs and got into fights fights that he would win at sixteen years old. He dropped out of high school and joined the legacy of mohawk ironworkers, but he kept getting in trouble. When Richard was about twenty. He was charged with assault and robbery and served some time in prison. I think he was very aware that that path of staying in the gangs that he was in in Brooklyn was not going to be a very good path to be on within a here. Richest charges were reduced and he was out on parole. And then he started looking for something else. It was nineteen sixty three in the civil rights movement was in full gear. Richard started to travel for his job as an ironworker one of his projects took him to Rhode Island where he fell in love with a local Italian American woman and married. Her story was that Richard was not welcomed by that father into this marriage. According to interviews with Richard's family Richards, father-in-law did not want his daughter to be in a mixed race marriage. He said he was going to make sure that Richard had nothing to do with his daughter since the father was a high-ranking Cobb, and Richard had a criminal background Richard felt threatened and didn't see any other choice, but to leave. Richard at that point. I think had lost everything and he had to kind of rethink his life in an an another way. He quit his job that same year. He said goodbye to everyone who knew and he decided to start over by driving his red Ford Mustang across the country to San Francisco Richard dropped out of the public school system when he was sixteen but on his journey west. He got a different sort of education. He was creating his own Indian studies course, but he was learning native history. He began stopping at different reservations along the way, and he began interacting with a lot more native peoples and asking, you know, hey, how's termination affecting your people house relocation affecting you, you know, what's your history? Termination was a federal policy introduced in nineteen Fifty-three by Utah. Senator Arthur Watkins, basically in meant the government stopped recognizing over one hundred tribes essentially, terminating them at this point in history and tribes were federally recognized by the government and in accordance with treaties. Those tribes received federal funding for services like healthcare and education. But with the nineteen Fifty-three termination act the government decided to stop recognising tribes and pulled their funding. This act was a continuation of the US government's longstanding push to quote Americanize, the native people. Always. Must be influenced by the majority of an evidence in the United States change the habits and customs of the monotony. Manati on says intended to be nothing other than helpful raise the standard of living. Comfortable this time. It was justified by rising McCarthyism an fear that communism would spread and reservations. So the government took away their basic social services and their special tax status, which drove some tribes to go bankrupt the result schools on reservations were no longer funded so native children couldn't get an education your home and the act left many natives homeless because they weren't able to pay the new property taxes. And there was another program at the same time called relocation, which also paid people to go big cities, like Chicago, Los Angeles, and San Francisco, they gave them a one-way ticket the promise of housing, a stipend and some kind of job training, both these policies termination and relocation pushed indigenous people to leave their reservations and move to the cities. Back in nineteen sixty eight Richard was driving across the country. And seeing firsthand how these policies had affected native people when he arrived in San Francisco, he discovered it actually had a vibrant burgeoning indigenous community. Prichard quickly fell into life there met and married. A woman named an Maruf. Oh, she was a single mom with six kids from a previous marriage. She was also native from the Coscia Pomo nation. These kids became his life. And they became a integral part of another Indian city as I term it which is founded out of the mission district of San Francisco. In the nineteen sixties. There were an estimated ten thousand indigenous people from different tribes living in San Francisco. One of those people was a UC Berkley student named Linda war Jack was that next generation that they were desperately trying to get us into the cities. So that we would melt into the melting pot and become a simulated Linda had left the shoshoni Bannock fort hall reservation in Idaho in her twenties. But the job training. She was offered felt very limited like going to cause mythology school to become a beautician. And that's not what she wanted. I just understood that after high school you go to college. So that was always my intention when I got out here the university making the loudest noise was that UC Berkeley. And I said I wanna go there Linda was the first native student to attend UC Berkeley there in the hotbed for groups like the Panthers. And the Brown berets. She became a big time activist in the growing red power movement. Red power wasn't Egner tribal movement all about self-determination the right for native communities to govern themselves in the movement for that right by reclaiming land, restoring broken treaties, and preserving Mita history. You. I miss them many people at that time everything was just exciting. But a, you know, I just I can't remember when I first met, Richard. But you know, I just knew him. Like, I always known him. She remembers Richard from social gatherings and local Palau's at the time. Twenty six year old Richard Oakes was working as a bartender, but also as a community organizer. Why were you worked at high turn into watering hole for activists and student politics? Eventually he was recruited to run the newly formed native American. Studies department at San Francisco state you Lou Martinez. A citizen of the southern nation. A friend of the oaks family remembers meeting Richard at Vietnam war rally entity. Yeah. For anybody determined, you know, had wanted to talk about chains of needed to be done. And he asked me all that you congress is going to realize their Indians. And I says about the same Cam India's realize that we are. So that's how we hit it off. Either remembers that Richard was the kind of guy who got a lot of attention. He was charismatic and tall over six feet with flowing black hair. I can describe him. But I could tell you what my wife said she said he was movie star good looking. One of the specific goals of the red power movement was to reclaim land the students, including Richard and Linda started to do some research to figure out how they could do that. I'm cutting mile. Through mile. Say is it smile? They developed a plan to take over Alcatraz dean shavers. A citizen of the Lombi nation and junior. Berkeley remembers the first time he heard about this plan. I met Richard when he came to UC Berkeley. And he asked us to go help him take over Alcatraz island. It was very casually mentioned this was at a into year party it one of the students is apartments. And I looked at say, you're crazy. I don't want that resin Alcatraz island is a tourist attraction today, but in nineteen sixty nine it was a small abandoned island surrounded by turbulent water. Just north of San Francisco Bay the only way to get there was by boat as a federal prison it once held some of the country's most Torius criminals like alka phone and George machine gun Kelly, but it closed in nineteen sixty three because it was too expensive to keep running. And it had been sitting empty for six years and Richard called me. And he says. Do you wanna go out on a boat ride around Alcatraz? And so I said sure, here's why this plan to take over Alcatraz actually made sense, according to a treaty from the eighteen hundreds the US government is responsible for turning all abandoned and out of us federal lands to native people this treaty like so many others made with native people in the past have been broken by the US government. But the students argued that the treaty still applied and could use it rightfully to reclaim their land. And since Alcatraz was now abandoned, and it was federal land befell the island should be returned to the need of community. But weird was going around that Alcatraz was going to be sold and turned into a casino. Good. We looked at that. It was like, oh, they're breaking another treaty. You know, right in front of our face in this day and age and that was just like. Let's take it. Inspired by the same treaty. A group of sue activists had tried to take over the island in nineteen sixty four five years earlier. But that ocupation had only lasted a couple of hours this time, Richard and the native activists we're going to try bigger and riskier they were going to move onto the island permanently. Coming up on the USA. The plan is sitting motion stay with us. Support for this podcast and the following message. 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The first time was on ninth nine hundred sixty nine and it was set up essentially to be a publicity stunt liberal media. Was there to capture the students Powell, dancing and singing on the pier? The cameras were rolling and Richard was wearing a black cardigan and turquoise beaded headband wrapped around his head. Then he started reading from a collectively written document, the Alcatraz proclamation the same one we heard at the beginning of the story feel out the show called Alcatraz island is more than suitable for an Indian reservation as the white man's own standards by this remained at this place resembles most Indian reservations in that one I selected for modern facilities, and without adequate means of transportation to it has no fresh running water three it has an adequate sanitation facilities for there are no oil forgetting over to Alcatraz the activists had gotten hold of a boat called the Monte Cristo. It was a boat that was used for reenactments and the activists chose it. I Ron Isley because it looks like the kind of ship that Columbus would have sailed after the proclamation. The group of activists some dressed in full regalia boarded and the captain of the ship fired off a blink canon. It wasn't enough for Richard Oakes. That's kent. The biographer we heard from earlier as the boat circled Alcatraz, Richard. And a few others jumped off and swam two hundred and fifty yards to the island. In this clip. You can hear the reporter ask where is he referring to richer? The coastguard pick them up right away. And brought them back to San Francisco. But that night the activists were already plotting how to get back for their second attempt. They got another boat to take them to L Cottrell secretly in the middle of the night. Here's Linda again, the coast guard helicopters and people storming all over the island looking for us. And we were just hiding out in our little secret locations giggling around at least, I you know, it was because it was exciting. It was thrilling and people were looking for us, and they couldn't find us the activists on the island until the next morning. A local reporter found Richard and some occupiers hiding out in the main cellblock Richard told the press. Government starts recognizing tween young people like take over our own destiny. The second small takeover was a hit with local media. The activists had lasted overnight. The occupation was short lived one in a peaceful one. But they say they'll continue to press their claim for the island in the center, they build here by legal means dean, the Berkeley student. We heard from earlier remembers the moment he heard about the takeover. Well, I went to the native American student office at eight o'clock that Monday morning in the oppo place was going crazy. And I said what's going on? And one of the girls says we'll Richard and Linate swim over to to Trabzon it last night. Oh my God. The activists were thrilled with all the publicity from these two trips the island, but they still wanted to take out Cottrell over for real. So for the third and final attempt the activists prepared for two weeks. They wanted this one to be long term and in the first few hours of November. Twentieth. Nineteen sixty-nine about eighty. Native people including students, but also families with children got onto boats bound for the island got her sleeping bags out. Pots and pans. Get ready to go get into the boats and go over at dawn with tents and food the boats of activists would dock on Alcatraz and as the occupier set foot on the island, the occupation of contrast officially began. The next morning press began together. Of course, everybody's not. Why the reporters realize why why you wanna presen- well, we're gonna make it a university? That's Richard's idea. We activist didn't just want to move in. They wanted to create an indigenous mecca they wanted to build a native studies program with traveling university, a native spiritual center, a native museum in the even wanted a restaurant fully running operated by native people. And this time the occupation grabbed the nation's attention, including the White House. Here's cans Nixon during this time had been proclaiming himself as the new kind of Indian president many indigenous activists at the time, including a Nate ending have actually said that Nixon was one of the best presidents to then digits community, president Nixon's football coach in college while it's Newman was native. And he was a man that Nixon said he admired only second to his father. According to Kent, Nixon was very concerned about. The being of native students when the occupation began do thing you could do or wanted to have happen is for the police or federal marshalls or coastguard to raid. The island have any native peoples or families get hurt because it wasn't a students that were there there were elders that were there were families over their children that were there on the island and the federal government didn't seem to have a plan. This is t- Hanan from the government Services Administration which oversaw contrast island. Susan are you prepared to let the NBA through their foreign investment hurried of no, I'm not. Then you must haven't deadline have not set a deadline, then they can stay there indefinitely. That's what they told me. So the activists began to set up their operations everyday life on this abandoned island, the person had only three working toilets and barely any clean water for food. They mostly lived off of donations bread cake, sometimes cakes bologna and a lot of bread and a lot of stuff like that hot dogs. Both would come and go with boxes of can't foods. Clothes whatever simple things they needed to survive fisherman's wharf area from the Francisco Bay has become sort of a ferry service one boat of Indians comes in from Cottrell. Goes out and it was freezing. Remember it was mid November. I mean, we're talking about twenty degrees above thirty above you know, at night and no heating, there's no heating. We came from reservations where things were deplorable as it is. So being there was was okay. They also to figure out where people are going to sleep many lived in empty cells of the huge prison that once held over fifteen hundred prisoners, but there was one particular that people actually fought for the high spot for the people on the island to sleep in the same cell as alka bone. And people dead any fight over. I gue- pulse. Belinda says that while many were sleeping in former jail cells. There are also certain perks to living on the island. I had a really nice room where I had a window when window I could see the Golden Gate and out the other window. I could see the bay bridge. So, you know, I thought, wow, this is really nice. A week up to the occupation began thanksgiving approach support for the accumulation was strong fresh ransom. San Francisco donated turkeys, and monetary donations flooded the mail room at the mainland headquarters. Native people from across the country both young and old began making the pilgrimage to Alcatraz and on Thanksgiving Day or then three hundred native people came to the island. By the end of the Semper. The activists had started Radio Free Alcatraz, and we're broadcasting live and direct from the island. Radio Free Alcatraz welcoming you Indian land Alcatraz on behalf of the Indians of all the host Santita Khotan named John Trudell used borrowed and donated radio quip -ment and talked about life on the island. It was a way for others to hear all across the country. What was going on with their movement and people were raising money for the occupiers musicians put on rock and folk benefit shows, including Buffy Sainte, Marie appear Krief oke musician. This. Celebrity started coming up to visit the island including Anthony Quinn, Ethel Kennedy. Jane Fonda, one of the biggest visit the island even invited. Linda with the time was Linda means to speak on the Merv Griffin. And dick Cavs show introduce your Indian friend. Yes. Yes. Girl, Indian coal lynetta means when it is. It is. The occupation was getting all of this attention. The late night shows the music shows and at the same time politically things were moving along a Bill presented to the house of representatives in December of nineteen sixty nine to quote gave Alcatraz back to the Indians. It would give the occupiers full governance of the island. It is worked as way through Washington's bureaucratic mill for months, but the Bill failed last week. The government said, no, it would not give them the island. But it would make it a national park on Alcatraz the Indians gave their reply. Eric older. Tensions were starting to flare up. Richard was getting a reputation for being a hot head and would often let these conflicts escalate into physical fights a conference that was opposed to attract thousands to Alcatraz two days before Christmas had low attendance news from the occupation started to wane as other issues and scandals took over the headlines like the Manson murders. Lose pseudo religious people who work during the ranch. So they were heavy users and six weeks into the occupation many occupiers who were students started to leave the island to resume their classes as the adults held meetings with politicians and plan their next steps the children remember whole families came onto the island were often left on their own. Here's Linda the kids were kind of their own little organization in group, but we did have the big rock school there for a while where they, you know, went to school, but after our teachers left than they just ran around the island in it was pretty scary trying to think where's your kid? You know, we're just exciting for them. They were having a great time. And of course, it was unfortunate. What happened to Richard's daughter? Some of the children were running around shop around, including Richard's daughter, Yvonne. They had run up the steps to the very top of the guards quarters. And when they got up there to have this thing where they thought they were really big shots. They spit over the rail at the top. And so they would get up there in that spit over the rail, and she went to do that. And she leaned too far over, and that's when she found. Richardson, Leonard oaks was a young boy living on the island when it happened. I remember. My older sister share ship fall. And she she hit her head on the corner of brick slap split her head from one temple to. Yvonne, suffered a fractured skull and brain injuries. They have to take her off the island because there was no hospital or doctor that could attend to her. And after five days she passed away at a hospital in San Francisco. Final wish. Rose daughter of Richard. Huhne's of all. Alpha past. Richards children. Remember, how painful this loss was for their mother? She'd lost dot. There. She came. To dog. This is fun at the time and Richard's wife was pregnant with her resume in her stomach. Fun was born shortly after the accident, and even though they called her on her whole life. Her legal name is Yvonne and I'm named after. A ham Nate, Dr her. After the accident, Richard and his family left the island, and they didn't return. Coming up on that Dino USA, Richard Oakes tries to find meaning after the death of his daughter and the fate of the Alcatraz occupation. Stay with us. Not there by yes. Hey, it's guy Roz here. And this week Ted radio hour were exploring ways to seek out Choi in some places, you might expect and in some places he might not Choi hides check it out this week on the Ted radio hour wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome back in the midst of the occupation of Alcatraz. Native activist Richard Oakes suffered a great personal tragedy, and he decided to leave the island. Now he had to find a new way forward. Producers Genesee Moga Anthonio city. He'll pick up the story as Richard was grappling with the terrible death of his daughter. The red power movement on Alcatraz and around the country was actually growing quickly movements were popping up all across the country. And of course, the press was having a field day in the sense of of covering. What is this new native movement and trying to figure out what is read power? Indigenous occupations, like the tracks were happening across the country from Ellis Island in New York to pyramid lake in Nevada only months after Vons passing. Richard was already planning on getting involved in another major protest, Dean Richards, friend came along Richard Knight took off in like March and with the bit riverine states, six months. So when Richard says, we gotta go up there. And it helps those guys try to get some land back as a k I'm in. While the occupation of Alcatraz was still ongoing Leifer, Redding, California, the plan in reading was to help the pit river nation reclaimed traditional lands from the federal government native activists decided they were going to trespass on the land and purposely get arrested in order to bring attention to their claim the impression one comes away with here is one of other disbelief that a small band of Indians can really expect the federal government to sign all this land away, and perhaps it will never happen. But one thing seems certainly clear the pit river Indians are not about to give up one night while they were in the midst of the pit river occupation, Richard. And fellow activists went out in San Francisco to a bar that night Richard gone into a bar fight. And he ended up getting hit in the head with a Poku. Richard conscious and without medical attention for ten hours that night. It was not until early the next morning that an realized something was wrong. She rushed him to the hospital where they were performed brain surgery. And for thirteen days he was in a coma Richards condition made headlines and local news specially when elastic effort to improve health to indigenous medicine men came to the fight of his hospital bed to see if they can help him he'll administered certain herbs and together with a prayers to the to the creator to the great spirit for the recovery of Richard Oakes. Richard was bedridden for all of July the entire left side of his body was paralyzed and his face was still puffy from all the bruises. It had been eight months since he left Alcatraz, the occupation. He helped start with still happening on the island, but it was losing support and attention fallen apart in the year. They've been here. The buildings seem to be burning down one by one the garbage piling up. The White House is broken. Then. Well, Richard was in the hospital. He learned that president Nixon had released an unprecedented statement regarding indigenous affairs said they were the most deprived minority group in this country. Then he called for a new era of indigenous affairs all around self-determination, he reinstated federal recognition of individual tribes. And he even gave some land back to the tiles Pueblo tribes for seven hundred years cows, Pueblo Indians. Worshiped in this place, and we restore this place of worship to them for all the years to come. This was a very hopeful moment for the occupier still an albatross for Linda it was staggering to hear the president recognize the harm done to her community Nixon. Liz champion all that and knit is around the nation. Just really perked up, you know, because we were assimilating into the mainstream of American society so to speak. And when that happened it revived our culture again, Richard, however, was wary that this was only lip-service shortly after Nixon's speech Richard was released from the hospital, but he had to use a wheelchair. Eloy martinez. A good friend of Richard's that we heard from earlier sovereign speak out of yet nam rally after he was released Brad, even after he left a hospital, and I went to see him again, another rally, and they everybody wheelchair. You can hardly hear speaking. I really just I don't know. It was really really bad because he was such a vibrant person for sure eventually regain the ability to walk and participated in protests. But things we're not going well for the family. He struggled to find work because of his physical condition, but he continued over the next few months organizing with a pit river nation and activists were still occupying Alcatraz until the tide. Turned red started as a symbolic invasion in member of nineteen sixty nine and later turned into a bitter struggle for the small band of Indians about the whole Alcatraz forever. Was ended here today after a year and a half of the occupation. There were only fifteen occupiers left on the island. The government said that a few occupiers had stolen and sold. Copper wiring from the buildings on Alcatraz to get more money from this morning consisting of some copper cable, which was sold on the mainland coding to a complaint, which was using this as justification US marshals and the coast guard went in and removed the remaining occupiers from Algiers the press interviewed Richard right away about Alcatraz too, which he said what would become his most famous, quote Alcatraz is not an island. It's an idea. The island itself it's a movement and at this movement will slowly begin to kind of take over America. Ocupation of Alcatraz was much more than just reclaiming that particular piece of land. It was about awakening the Merican even global public to the issues that indigenous people were facing, including the stripping away of their land, and culture, and they hope to galvanize a new generation of indigenous people. For the family, even though they weren't on the island when the occupation ended. It was still a difficult time. Richard started working on a greenhouse farm. The family was still struggling with money and his injuries left him walking with a limp. I now the family had moved onto the reservation. But when Leonard Richardson remembers that time he doesn't remember his father is beaten, man, one memory in particular, stands out. And I remember standing in the middle of the road. And he was holding my hand he goes you wanna race in and looked up at him. And I go no because we're not and he goes 'cause you're her told him let's race. So we raised in and we raced down to the school and we race back. Yeah. He beat me. You know? I was I was my legs are moving as fast as they can. But yeah, he beat me. And I remember that Richard spent a lot of time writing he was working on a manifesto. He had always had a vision of himself traveling the country going to colleges and universities to help preserve native history. Here's again he had bought a school bus. And he's getting ready to take his family. Just like, you know, traveling. People all over what was going on in ever made it to the school list. This is where Richard story comes to an abrupt end the way it happened is both upsetting and allusive here. The things we know for sure. Richard's family started to frequent the nearby YMCA. They had horses that the kids like to ride on. And it was a community center that many families visited here's Ken Richards biographer, once more employees that started working there not too soon after Richard and Anne had moved back to Coscia. His name was Michael Morgan. He was a a former military police officer who'd been honorably discharged. And so he essentially was the director of this. Why camp Michael Morgan was said to have been open in his stain of native people. Apparently he wants said it was quote open season on Indians. And that Richard Oakes was a troublemaker and that the country would be better off without him. Michael was also afraid of Richard. It was known that Michael Richard had had heated arguments about indigenous land rights issues, Morgan would kind of go after Richard. He would go back to his house to grab a gun thinking that Richard was going to attack them in some capacity. Even though Richard still suffering from some of the debilitating effects of his his beating from years before. One day. Michael Morgan Chase down to native young men who he suspected we're trying to steal the YMCA's horses. Michael went after them with a rifle. One of the boys escaped and the other was held at gunpoint until sheriff came to arrest him. Richard went to Michael's house to find out what happened to the rested. Boy, Richard was unarmed. This is where the sequence of events is contested at the court case that followed Michael Morgan would take the stand and claim that Richard lunged at him and he shot him for fear of losing his own life, which just lawyer argued that given his injuries Richard could not have lunged at Michael like he described the bullet Michael shot when straight through Richard's chest. Richard was thirty years old. Richards children were at home when it happened when it happened. We seen it on the TV by mom went down there. But we watched it on TV got an how it happens so fast. At the trial Morgan was charged with manslaughter. Even though Richard's family believed. The charge should have been murder after the jury deliberated for three days, Michael Morgan was acquitted on March sixteenth nineteen Seventy-three Martinez was called up to help the family plan for Richard's funeral earner. Just turned into kind of a big missiles. Everything was bad. They had to scramble to prepare for his burial. We actually buy a round of Jeters running round other jacket and. Put him in a mortuary, and they didn't do the embalming because they didn't have any money. So they didn't involve me, and then they wouldn't release body to us, you know, 'cause nobody had any money. Some quite people went into into the mortuary and started complaining about the smell once the funeral. Finally did come together. Hundreds of people came to pay their respects. That fall six hundred people the largest group of native people ever to gather in Washington DC came together for a protest called the trail of broken treaties. Yesterday, a caravan of cars began converging on Washington bearing leaders who represent a coalition of three quarters of our countries. Three hundred American Indian tribes native protesters wanted to present the Nixon administration with a twenty point plan to establish native sovereignty among five hundred angry Indians took over the bureau of Indian affairs in Washington stayed there for a week ransacked the place. But after teach in between protesters and the police the Nixon administration refused to meet with them. Today. Richard Oakes is remembered by his children, his wife an passed in two thousand and ten but for many years Richard's family didn't talk a lot about him Leonard whose only five when his father died didn't know why maybe it was too painful to talk about. But when he turned twelve he became curious about his father as a young boy, I had the opportunity to go through and read all of these paper clip ins, his mama collected all the newspaper clippings about his father in box. There were times go in there and just pull stuff on just sit there just read for like a whole day, just read whatever it quit. I was so curious. Was just so I wanted to know I wanted to know what the heck this was about. Leonard learned not just about his father, but about indigenous history, I didn't know that they were forbidden to wear their hair long to speak their own language. I'd know these things I became consciously aware of who I was is a person because of him. We think of indigenous history as the first chapter in our history books. There's always an oil painting what some European white man in fancy bloomers handing a red cloth. And some beads to an indigenous man with a stern face, but native history didn't stop there. It was only fifty years ago that Richard Oakes. Proclaimed Alcatraz island, a native nation and fights over land and resources continue today. Just look at standing rock Richard Oakes stood up for native people at every turn. And ultimately it cost him his life. But while his indigenous mecca on Alcatraz failed Richard and his fellow occupiers inspired a movement in which members of all tribes saw their fate as connected to each other. As Richard said Alcatraz is not an island. It's an idea. You get the feeling when I read these stories not both. This thing is not even completed. It's been fifty years since Yawkey patient and since then on indigenous peoples day and on thanksgiving, hundreds of people gather on contrast for a sunrise ceremony a celebration of indigenous history with prayers and traditional dancing that also pays tribute to the Alcatraz occupiers. One of them was Richard Oakes. And this year for the first time San Francisco recognized October eighth as indigenous peoples day rather than as Columbus. Dane. Then you remember the tie? That to have how. And. Your great great. Butts and you feel. These. Still taking. Washington signed. Do. But it still Boeing on today. 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