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Hotboxin' with Mike Tyson, Mickey Rourke & Chuck Zito

Hotboxin' with Mike Tyson

35:08 min | 2 years ago

Hotboxin' with Mike Tyson, Mickey Rourke & Chuck Zito

"Take Kazan, man. Ever seen? Really? Yep. Yeah. That's right. How did he live? Ilya was in his eighties put sharp he got caught up in the McCartney and attractive. And I heard that name for many about him McCartney bites. He got blackballed from Holly. Welcome. Everybody to another episode of hot box with Mike Tyson. I'm Evan Britain. Mike, tighten my. Yes. How are you brother? Pretty awesome today. We have really cool cool gas. Mickey Rourke Maki, welcome. Thank you very much. Really nice to be seen Mike in, you know, quite a long time. It's awesome show. Hang on Monaco together. I remember. Cody drink it of magnum issue with no shirts on. Yeah. Also, I remember that. Yeah. And we've also got our brother Chuck Zito in the house. You'll yo Mike Evin back about. Shook did you get did you convince Mickey to come in? Convince my asked him you say, you love through many awesome, Mike and while and it's great now. Almost a great podcast. I haven't she makes it we were Monaco and very funny story. I think very few people know about over here, but Mike, and I had to present in a word to someone. Right. A music award. I don't want to say the guy's name because I don't like to do. Anyway, we had to present an award to somebody, and they had the lines on a monitor and Mike, and I had to read the lines off the monitor now earlier in the day. They gave us both the set alight. So we just took off his motorcycle somewhere disappeared all day. So we we went over the lines for like ten seconds here that we get to the show, and we're doing the lines. And of a sudden, I can't read the lines. Mike kit, say the lies and Mike says your line. I know Mike, that's your. It was just. He's a really great dancer. What year was that? I don't. Well, known each other longtime a long time when. Paulie herman. Yeah. Paulie be back in the day. Cool, man. So the back over twenty five years. That's awesome. I remember I did I was foolish enough to say I'll do an exhibition against guy was a former light heavyweight champion. I never sparked headgear on. Why did you do that mic? I never I never headgear. Because Jerry, Corey never sparred with gear who was like somebody. I always looked up to you know, because he was the only white fighter that could fight, you know, and it was like I never were gears the night that we did after noon it we did the exhibition against world champion Thomas St. Thomas St. right, Frank thank freight tape. Bill Satan's putting irises so Bill Satan's putting headgear I go Bill. I can't wear. He's going you. Gotta wear it for this. And I just got the piss boxed out who me, and I could hear the audience for you know, three or four rounds come on Miki, Mike Mike out there. Route way on you know, and it was like, that's awesome. Yeah. Yeah. It was it was. Wasn't a good day for me the guy with the picking of McCain. Now. Now, what happened was he caught me with a good punch? So I faked like I was hurt. And then he east that back then I came over with a right? And he gave me a he gave me a school. And after that, it frac- at the time was very great fighter. You know? Yeah. No doubt mean history of ERI. Underrated. You know name that you don't hear a lot. Yeah. He could he could go. Absolutely. Well, I mean as prolific as you are as an actor boxing is really your your heart. Man. Right. You know, people asked me that question. It was what I started out doing at eleven at the fifth street gym in Miami. And I had a lot of great role models. They are you know with Ali in Jimmy Ellis. In absolute Gundy injured, yet Dundee didn't train me that wasn't that good. He I was analogy there. You know? Louis Rodriguez Willie Pastrana before that and. It all started for me when Willie used to come to the boys club and give us lessons when we all amateur fighters, and I really liked I liked it a lot and I really wanted to play baseball. But that didn't work out because the whole team thing. The box in but the box, and I can honestly say. Because you're not come from very dark place and. All the dudes. I grew up with around me, and they ended up in a darker place and the boxing really gave me a discipline in a. Something to let the steam out in and something to take away the shame. Yeah. And it, you know, kinda save my life in a in a very big way. Yeah. You know? I totally get that man. There's so much to you know, getting knocked down and being able to get back up and pick yourself up all the time feminine demon still in individual sports battling yourself. Yeah. You know, it deems that Ewing shelf. Never died. He fuck with you follow you all. Yeah. No doubt. Man. I basically from for me. I don't I don't talk a lot about a lot is. My mother married. Very brutal man that was not my father and aided for a decade. He did some he had a lot of damage, and so you. You live with shame. And there's nothing there's nothing worse than living with shame. So what you do is. You make decision you gotta break or you gotta get strong. And then you're going after you get strong, you're doing at hard. And then when I started with the acting, you know? Had gotten so hard that I didn't realize that it kind of fended other people and my therapist explained to me that. That you're pry, pride and your self respect and your honor. Can turn on you become a weakness. And so you've got gotta be careful that because. He will then people get afraid, right? Which is what which which is what was the whole point to begin with, you know? Yeah. And then you gotta reinvent yourself. Okay. I don't need to do this. I don't need to make eye contact with every motherfucker that walked by. I don't need to you know, I can just learn to live peacefully. Yeah. 'cause you know, he said to me one day, you ain't going to war, brother. And you got a lot of armor on you. You know, you know. It's like when I act it's it it's on, you know, it's it's I heard some active one time say it's not competitive. Well with me it is. Yeah, I'm going to grind you up. Turn you into dust? Above its competitive the privacy. What it today? You know, it's like it's like the good thing me when I went back to box. I realized when that little red light goes on as the bell ringing. You ain't you can't say, oh, I got a second. I got a bells on man, you gotta you gotta be ready to destroy, you know, Mike, you can relate to that. That trip though, I'm so happy. Anything we design yourself, those toys side and the guy if he's a big guy five people that we're way to live your life. It is man. No doubt. Will you come from the dockside? That's that's the way it is. Yeah. You know? Yeah. You're constantly in that mode. Yeah. That then it becomes it can backfire on you. Right. You know in life later on. Yeah. Yeah. Buckling became doc for me. Yeah. Came dot in what ways Mike. Became the absorbed. Yeah. Really of little really thin cable. I mean, people do really we're having eagle. That's taking the toll yet. This is destroy all that. Yeah. For sure man. That's what that's all about make you have you heard of the toad medicine that would always show many other at blue stuff. Now. Davin? Oh, yeah. Dabbing? No, the toad is it's the Sonoran desert toad and in its venom, they have this compound called five any O D M T have you ever heard of DM T? So DM is something that we create our pioneer gland. It's like it's something that they say that the biggest rush of it comes when a baby is forming in the womb, and then the second dose, you get it in your life naturally is on your deathbed. And sometimes they say, you get a little sprinkling of it here and there, but you know, ancient tribal societies have used this medicine via like Iowa ska to have spiritual experiences. They're finding now in modern science at cures, everything from diction and depression to cancer in a host of other illnesses and Mike did. Id five EMMY O D M T the other day with our with this medicine, many shaman, and you know, he had a really incredible experience. I mean, I is so frightening. I come from my experience with it. Come from all, no, I don't want. I want to stop Nazi-like. Code five. Emmy OTM M T or DM t then lasts long enough about DM T. If you do like, an Iowa ska ceremony that might be that's like eight to ten hour ride. But this stuff that might did. It's only about fifteen twenty minutes, you experience an ego death as they call it. The incredible. I get one of those. Ego death, eight hours after heavy. MRI? I like couldn't dial the phone. I didn't even know my name. Oh shit about. I'm sure that was an exhibition. Yeah. Well, how did you guys all meet? I mean, you guys are buddies. How how did how did you guys come together all comes down to poli? We really think about comes on the pulley her paulie Herman had a cafe in New York City. His thing was introducing people to enter the people. Oh, I love. Yeah. Everybody that knew busy. Yeah. That's so funny is I remember when I first met paulie Herman I had ice cream cart. And I used to hit us to push the car from the east village all the way up to central park. Holy. And then there was just kinda hip restaurant. Like all the actors and famous people go show, I would time ice cream cart up, and I would go like I'd stand out there looking at famous people wile, and I say, the paulie could I come in. Yeah. And he go, well he'd say we're a little crowded tonight. Maybe later, and I stand out here freezing. And then in the wintertime had a pretzel cart. So. I tied the principal card up, and I wait. And by then paulie, knew me a go on go ahead go in. And so, you know, I'd go in there. So after about Shelvin eight more years. Well, I made it as a actor. Right. So I didn't have to wait lie. No more, you know, or time my car up, shall I go in there one night. And I said I want that table right there by the window polish. No problem puts me in there. I'm sitting in there by myself, just looking for something, I guess and. I'm there about forty five minutes, you know, have this Upton and. Polly comes over to many goes, Nikki Mickey the the Saudi prince of so and so once your table, would you mind moving to I said, listen, you tell the Saudi prince go fuck em, there ain't no fucking way. He's getting his table. After me waiting ten years to sit here. Yeah. Paulie? Mickey why do you gotta be like that? I go kart, Mike. I forty two blocks every night. That's awesome. To push the good humor cart. The good. You mccart that was next to the oh, the building was next at hells angel clubhouse in New York City. Oh, yeah. Yeah. And he used to push all the way up to central park right in front of the Mayflower Hotel and said some damn won't be in there. And he won the beginning the penthouse apartment there though, shit ball. Yeah. Doc, gut real strong for pushing that cart from third street to street. Yeah. Third straight fifty. What was the fifty ninth street or if you're sixty? But his cart was half empty to. Tell me got the all the Hells Angels, take the. Take care you. They make fun of. Although I is this whole ice cream 'cause world kind of like court short. You know, we had inspection at the life. Stand up at attention and our white uniform. I used to throw mine up the hat and sit but might take up on fair jeans, and I wouldn't wear the uniform uniform show, I never made good you remanded the month or whatever. Have you picked your on wall? That's so awesome. Were you were you go into the actors studio yet at that point? Yeah. You were. Yeah. Day and night, helium Kazan, man. Yeah. Fest auditions ever seen. Really? Yeah. That's right. How did he live to be? I think Ilya was in his eighties put sharp attack. What he wasn't. He he got caught up in the McCartney area back. Then did. Yeah. And I heard the name of so many pitches about him in McCartney everything that I think he got blackballed from Holly gave up some names. Oh. But they put a lot of people do a lot of actors directors. It suffered there in that studio communist hunt. Yeah. Yeah. That's crazy, man. And we had a friend years ago called Jimmy Hayden that. Was doing a play with Alba chino ninety one. The be played a what was the maker junkie anyway. Right. Anyone the dying from an overdose? But we will pull me Mickey and L Pacino, and I'll Pacino. Yeah. He was doing play with them so back then that was was like nineteen eighty or something. Can be go away. Yeah. Right. We looked around. That was the first time. I saw you was if you remember at the Albany up there. John Baptist was the the main event and Hells Angels was the heavyweight he was a main event Kevin Rooney was a co main event and under on the cloud was Mike Tyson making his debut. Wow. So cold eighteen eighteen. My we saw this couch says holy shit like fuck. Ten seconds. Yeah. But we we saw him. That's the first time. We I I saw him. But we came befriends later that after that. 'cause we would just staying John Ford. Kevin fort, and yes, and Mike was making his debut. That's nineteen eighty-five. Yeah. Six six. Yeah. You got to date, and that's what happened. So it's unbelievable. That's how to Seoul circling around. Like, you said like Mike said, Paul Herman introduce a lot of people. Yeah. And you guys were just kinda like ships passing in the night backed it up. It was funny because the first time I went to cafe sexual. That's what we're talking about the the the bar there. We will watch myself, Dan Aykroyd, and John blue watching the Sugar Ray, Leonard Durant fi. I one. I think kademi music because it was on the screen nineteen eighty and then twenty well. Dates down by the dates Lewis, fighting your way, Lenin. Yes. Yes. And at the end of the fight is come on. We're going to go to his boss. I don't drink. I don't hang out at bars. All there's a lot of girls up there, and ballerinas and everything. All right. I'll go. All right. I'll go, and I had my hells angel patch on and we walked in place was packed. I mean, wills the bartender, then he's still be the, but. Everybody was guys like treat Williams, and and pita Regan, and John Goodman and Liza Minnelli. So when I walked into my jacket on and she'll Jaffe was the host also member. No only thing. I remember, truthfully. As you're the only guy you were like a freak. You were the only guy who had muscles. Lovie one. Everybody else looked like a certain way. Yeah. And then there's in would come this guy over up the tattoos. And yeah. Yeah. Also walking around this restaurant, and this guy Paul hermit comes up to me. The first time I've met him. And he I talked to you for a minute. He was looking my boss just asked me if you could take your jacket off got nerve. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Great guy. I mean awesome. Everybody loves them. And I looked say pal. I don't think my patch for nobody. He goes. Well, my boss, I tell you boss to come see me it was at impede a Harare again in pita, Harare came up. It was what's the problem as well? Let's guys telling me I gotta take my Jack leagues. Well, you scare my customers. I'd like you to take it off. I tell you what I don't take my patch show for nobody. And he goes when you're going to have to leave. I well, I'm gonna leave when my friends leave who I came with John Belushi and Dan Aykroyd. And then he goes can I sit down and talk to you for minutes. Yeah. So we started talking. I said, look, I'm a hells angel. But I gotta tell you. I never drank in my life. I don't never smoked in my life. I don't do drugs nothing. And we started talking at the end of the talk. Like, I have Our Lady goes, you're welcome back. Anytime you want to that. I was every fucking. You know, I met you. Yeah. I'm chuck. Absolutely. Absolutely. So when I pull the come well this is afterwards. And then. He's right. Great. So one night after I'm staying there mean pull you in the back room by the bathrooms, Ed restrooms. And a guy I was drinking. Coca Cola guy comes on. And takes the Kokin. Look at him. I says I looked at him. I didn't even know this guy from hall, and I say man, he goes, I'm thirsty and yet three guys with them. I said you fucking kidding me, man. So we go outside if it was just him. He brought his friends with him three shots three knockouts in the middle of the street. And as they all dropped who comes pulling up in a cop pita, Harare. He jokes. I'm talking about. That's what you're talking about his Pete. These guys started with him. I sorry. And after that he offered me a job it became the bouncer shit. Yeah. But now I had the the rule was I had to wear a suit. So I wouldn't wear to jacket. So we I thought know being the bouts of there, and it was very exciting time. Great. It was awesome. China Club Broadway. I mean, we had some good times scores China Club did that movie black and white myself. Mike and everybody else. Everybody was. When you think about it? So for Nanded out there. We we go back now what's going back. And this is now Paul he comes up to me one night in and everybody was a she. She's there, you know, you just raging bull. The Niro saying Pacino everybody was everybody want there. You know that Mike and then he comes up. He goes, look he goes, a friend of mine just got mugged down in hell's kitchen. I says, okay. What happened h each day, rob them? All right. And I had my my friend, Bert number Bert with the hook. Yeah. Sorry. So we grabbed the guy was Jimmy Hayden. Right. I am meeting for the first time. And he goes I said what happened? He goes to rob me. And I saw it. You know, what we had a van, right? We had a couple of baseball bats and event. I says you will go down. If you see these guys just pick them out, and we'll take care of it. Right. So violent. So we go down with screw in neighborhood. And now he's getting nervous. Jimmy now, he's sweating everything else. And then what's about a man? He goes, look, I gotta tell you something I really went down into by drugs. And rob me, I what I your fucking asshole, man. And I went back to buy supposedly. We're ready to take care of these guys. This guy went to by jokes. And that's what happened. That's I met. You me hated for the first time, and we became friends. He was a great guy. But then of course, he died. And like I said me Mickey and now Pacino pull barriers that can a day, man. The good days the good times. Mike incredible. It's crazy. How is it? I mean, Chuck you're being a hells angel. I mean, it's one of the most feared groups in all of America. I mean, I've read hunters hundred Thompsons he wrote debt like. Got beat. Got beat up because he was he was hanging out with the club for about a year. And they let him out everything else. And what happened was one night hells angel argument with his his wife, and he he smacked his wife, and he and the dog went to hit by them with something to kick the dog. So hunter Thompson goes only punks smack their wives and kick their dogs. And that's when the guy kicked his shit Dopson. Wow. So in any went back and read that you know, wrote that book in I don't know how long some of it was true. Someone was bullshit. But that's what happened on Thompson. But I was ready for twenty five years time. I had some bad times to did six years, you know in prison, but I got out, but I quit the club fourteen years ago. You know, been awhile man, I can't believe what teen years went by so quick make your your motorcycle riders. Well, right. Do the I do ride, but. I ride and last because. Everybody's texting you know. And and when I train I I I don't have time to for five month injury to heal because you know, I only had a certain amount of time left to do my thing. And I don't wanna motorcycle injury. Shut me back. It's just like you're you expect to have injuries writing motorcycle. Yeah. I'm not the greatest motorcycle rider. My mind floods around. Yeah. Bike it bike. Excellent. But with everybody Texan, it's driving is a nightmare. I mean, I had I was only going ten miles an hour, but I hit oil. And you know, I mean, you're you're just thinking. Hit the ground your fucked up. Yeah. Even ten miles an hour skin off. Honky may crack Ulli ribbon. Puncture your loan Faulk that now it's that big bike ex. And I had that time when I start my leg in half and eight places and road rash. My whole arm was ripped shit. And and I always remember Mike always gave a shout out man when he was fighting a guy name Orlin Norris. At the end of it. And it was also man he goes, I just want to take, you know. He'll best buddy Nido. Hello. My good friend jugs. Eat will get we'll soon brother. I love you peace. Love it man makes got a huge heart, man. Absolutely. Check. Fuck that. He'll quick Chuck. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And I was watching the fight on TV. And it just the prize me, man. You know, when you watch it and the next thing, you know, because there was a little controversy that saying he hit them at the bell and this and that they wanted the squalor fine. Keep his fuck all that little. Sergio. And I remember that man tried on the day the Mike Tyson shadow it says to anybody wants to look at it. It's awesome. It's awesome. Man. I love Mike often time. Yeah. You training at twelve. Yes. You're to fight. And when I thought twelve my first ring fight at the south side, boys club in the shell while damage your fight. You know, we fight different towns. Giffen club different towns guy named the years ago. Bob Cremins, you might heard guy and he was from Pelham. So he never show was fight Pelham guys. And and we just, you know, boys clubs and schools and things like that. So sweet. But I was only amateur because I became a husband and father seventeen. So I couldn't turn pro the makes a forty fights. And you know, it's an amateur in four thirty six wins and lost four so awesome. And I was on the golden gloves four times. So. It was an experience they still do that the boxing clubs. Absolutely absolutely slow the Golden Globes in New York. It's one of the biggest not as what might not as much used to be. They used to really really promote it and everything you hardly hear about anymore. Now years ago. I had six fights before. I even went to the quarterfinals today. They have to fight for the finals. Yeah. Yeah. It's amazing guy will have a dream win the golden call. It was it was I was in four times never want it. But I tried my artist. But again, I was like almost like Mickey and train, man. I've just going and. Actually trade. Yeah. Between the three of us. I mean, Muslim, Mike Levin. You know, undisputed undisputed heavyweight champion of the world who dealt now. Teach you how. Yes customer because I was cuss like total discipline. Yeah. Yeah. Don't fuck. It really what kind of stuff would he have you do did you just run a super tight ship and Jim? Really? Phychological mind game. What did he do is preparing for war? Yeah. Picking logically. Yeah. Yeah. He had a great teacher. Mickey Bill Slayton. What you guys? Yeah. Yeah. But you guys, and of course, my father trained me, and he's always out my fights. So he's always in my corner. What are you guys thinking stated boxing? Did you guys watch the wilder fury fight? Not good fight. Yeah. I was. What did you think? Mick. Well, first of all I had like three dozen gypsies sitting next. Oh. And I got a taste of that world because they were fighting with all the security guards. Wow. Okay. They're fighting with each other a while. Okay. One guy. Screaming is wife you bitch. He's back and forth. You. Whatever. And I'm sitting next to actual rows of gypsy comes over just sits on his lap. And I had to get off his lap. You know, and. The fight was interesting. I I mean, you got to two guys six seven six nine whatever people said to me. Would you take? I talked to Freddie who worked a little bit with Tyson. And Freddie said he liked the way that that Tyson would switch up because Tyson's a he's a converted southpaw. And you say what is most effective punch was basically what he would switch up and he throw a straight right Javan straight straight left punch. But he didn't switch up a lot against wilder because of wildest big looping right hand, sometimes while to shoot it straight or do put over the top so dangerous for him to turn. Yeah. Southpaw on heavy. So you didn't see him. Switch up as much as you had prior fights interesting. Yeah. The good fight. Then he it's a media rematch. Yes. Cool. So we're going to fight again. It's also like Tyson for he's awesome guy fun. Great name. And he's had his ups and downs on that. Yeah. The respect. What I like is the respect the both fighters gave each other at the amazing. Yeah. It wasn't all this this MAC talk. It was it was pure, genuine respect. And you know at the end of the day. You know, what do you think about all the talking like with counter or Floyd or I don't I don't have the temperament to stand there? And listen to it. Yeah. Yeah. So I would prefer not to say anything. Anybody just remained quiet. But it's really hard when somebody's three inches away talking. She lock it smack in push as part of the game too, though. Yeah. Yeah. The game to you deal with. They've got a guy to depends. I do content. So good. Yeah. Yeah. And we'd lose it. You know? Yeah. I get it though, piss me off like the could be encounter fight. I mean, oh my God. That was I was f for that brawl. That. Well, that's why I like seeing the fight with Mike and. That big dude from the street. He had a problem with helmet screens. Mid screen. Mitch green? Blood grid. Last night was at that. Dan home. See this guy. Drink. And then then I'm. Shit. What how? Talking too much talk as a oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I can take drinking early know you. Dance. But that was fine. I was looking forward to seeing. Yeah. Yeah. We'll Mickey what are you up to these days man, we need to give Makita told? I'm just looking for supermodel. With that. I'm working with him yet right now is a very young director that I really that. I just did a film with and we wanna make a film with integrity. We're not looking to make like action mindless blockbuster interesting on that. No. That's not what I studied so hard. You know, for sure the actor am to do that cata shit. I don't like buddy that much to to how to to do that to make that much money. I don't I don't really give a fuck about money. And this I need to pay. My bills is other things to me that are more important. I mean at the end of the day, you can't take it with you. So, you know. Yeah. It is what it is. You get together for dinner. And there's always other dude that comes and he mistake fucking eighty or something and he's only talked about money making money. You'll be alive. What are you? I'm totally with. The book forever. Various man told you just teach you that is nothing you just a blurb entity. Yeah. The toad shows about fuck all that man man is just about spreading love and being you're being you're in your truth. So. Chuck thanks for coming in, bro. Always a pleasure. Always pleasure. Thank pre and Mickey to the house. Yeah. Doubt. Mike, another great one. Then this awesome. Very well. Until next time. We're out of here. Next time. Anyone? I'll see you when I'm looking at you. Picture meet Chuck and Mike together, absolutely.

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That's how good that. You're. Like, tell them funniest best stuff ever. Did was that movie that movie the mixture of comedy and action and just so so so incredible you plan to have awesome? And that's hang go that the Tango God, it was such a fun movie now movie that most people don't bring up, but I watch all the time Harley Davidson and the Marlboro man because. Insane movie and for people let me just say this. There's a whole group of dudes. This is the realm. This is the realm of this. This is sort of forty to fifty five year old white dude round the guys who like to watch roadhouse over and over again and point break. We're watching it and it semi ironic way. But we're also quietly enjoying it. It's a tool tune of a movie that I mean, like, I don't think I've ever seen the whole movie. It's it's for those director for those of us who cherish those kinds of movies like Cobra and stuff like Stallone's got a bunch of those kind of moves this movie not on anyone's menu. It should be because it is sanely comes up if that's what you like this sort of nineties ironic, like two big action guys insane scenes all the time the premise. Tom Sizemore time size. It's Burbank pack, the years two thousand and one like this. I don't even know what the movies it's unclear what the movie's about. But either way I drops that make you see the world in a better over showing some synthetic Trautmann's purple. That's getting all over town eyedrops. That's what it was also air wolf, I didn't even know you're on air. Yes. And he just passed away. Didn't he know? Jan Michael Vincent, Michael, Vincent. He was beautiful. Were you? Did you get dude? Guest arc or something. I was a guest star. And I just started out innocent little thing from Hawaii, and I play his girlfriend KiKi Tanabe. And I'm supposed to a KiKi. Yes, kiki. That's me. I'm so I go and give them the peck on the cheek and he turns and he goes. Gives me the tongue art thought. I was going to die like from from, you know, alcohol. Exactly a little low cocaine. Gosh, she I was so shocked. I didn't know what to do like a deer in headlights show hash to Michael was like, wow. Wow. We're looking at a picture. He was like Brad Pitt before Brad Pitt in in the in the looks department and a mad angle on him. He was better. I'm guessing he would attempt to make out with every coast are right female. Because he was good looking. So if if it said in the script, a kiss, or pack. They just go for it. He did as he had a good laugh is that is that a common theme where like a guy says I mean, it's kinda like that Al Franken backstage dang like, hey, we have to rehearse this kiss. You know, and the guy goes, well, it's always a beautiful. It's always someone is a couple years younger and a lot better looking than you. And someone is going we need to rehearse this. Specifically kind of a little open window to try something. Do you try? Banyans? Well, I not recently, it's been more respectful. But yeah. In the beginning, definitely, you know, will you came here at what age seventeen so you're like seventeen from Honolulu. Hawaii a little pebble in the middle of the ocean. Did I know of such so you you come here. And I mean must be an avalanche of whatever all the horror stories you hear the metoo and stuff. I don't mean that anyone accomplished it. But I'm saying there must have been every producer in every whoever I offers. I got offers to get me a -partment in a car and a monthly stipend. If I would just let him come. Visit me I'm like anybody. You mean casting directors and every titans of business real estate moguls? Who knows you know? It's like, it's I mean, they see you coming in and your eyes are. You know, why you know? And and you don't know who the bad guys. Are you want to believe in the best in people? And you know, my sister moved here years later, and and it just really she couldn't stand it. She's like how can you deal with this? And I said, I've a, you know, bad long term, memory know, forget stuff just forget it to save myself. Don't you think in in that way, your innocence almost protects you because you don't know what you don't know. So you wouldn't you wouldn't take anyone up on that? But it also gets you into stupid situations where you're in a locked room with someone and you're going, I didn't know that that door buzzed behind me. When I walked like how? Like, how am I now on the wrong side of the locked door? How do I get out? Matt lauer. Like. No. It was not Matt Lauer. It's a story to share with us. Adam. God, you wish you and Matt Lauer, wow. Never unsee. This is breaking news. No, I I've never really been too pushy that way, but I gotta tell you haven't thought about he'd been pushed a little bit of a little bit of a two way street. I gotta say like when you're on MTV for an hour night every night, and you go to have a su- for man show bit. And there's a couple of chicken around. Do whatever you want. If I can meet Dr drew. But I'm punked. Yeah. There is. Couple of pushy gals out there happens future ex-husband committee or committeea. Who's gonna pay for my baby currently carrying? So I never I never judge in the reason. I never judge. Yes. You do. Why have two? You know, what I'm saying is this when I was an, and I think it's all about the base. I don't know what your family with the base of you need a super strong base of a family because if you took me at seventeen or eighteen my family was a mass everyone was all over the place. I didn't have any kind of religious upbringing. I didn't have any pride. And then have a base. It wasn't like, oh, I can't disgrace the good name of Corollas, whatever. And if somebody came around some forty year old chick said, I'll leash a corvette and put you in an apartment. I be like, yes. Yes. Absolutely. I'm one hundred percent down with this plan. I will do whatever we will do whatever if someone gave me a Manila envelope and said, I need you to bring this back from Mexico, and they go around thousand dollars. I'd be like I'm down. I can't do. I mean, because he it's this weird thing was why wouldn't you do that? Will you? So you don't have any bait. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But I I guess so then you know, what Catholic school did serve me. Well, I went to Catholic school for thirteen years. My family was also a mess. So at least I had half of that equation. And that kept me straight. I guess I mean, I literally said the guy I said, maybe I'm thank you so much for your generous offer. I really appreciate that. You would offer to someone like me because you're above me. And I'm like how the fuck. Oh, sorry. How do I get out of this room without, you know, getting attacked, and it was, but I maybe I'm starry eyed in naive, but I believe hard work, and perseverance are going to get me where I wanna go unquote, Catholic Sister, Mary Ignatius safe. Raise family amass. What was the mass part of my family might listen to this? They're gonna get mad at me again. Well, cake you. Cake. You already mad cake with the family is look, I'm just reporting. What you did you didn't want it to happen. Then you shouldn't have done should have been. Essentially, a court the Naga for here, and you guys are. Look as long as you're not making things up on them. I read back the transcript read, the record, tell me, if you think this is my family doesn't, but I'm like, if you're going to be horrible, and you're going to nor your kids, and you're gonna focus on yourselves, and you're gonna cast everyone to the wind and not pay for college and not pay for lunch and not pay for dinner, not doing that. There's a there's a better than not chance that your kids will either OD by twenty-five or just get some crappy job on a construction site. Racism, Holly or all the above. But there's a small chance make it a microphone. And then it's going to bite you in the ass spun that over now, look he there's a rule that we'll. It said don't pay for anything ever. But there was doubled hero, hugs. And then the double zero within my phone, and it's like, I'll give it a chance. No college. Nobody -cations no meals. No, hugs. No. I contact. This'll be easy. Lane shoes himself. Landed on the sliver with the microphone and the book deals and everything else. And you got burned still spin that wheel today. High percentage spin. So one, and so we both one and here we are in front of microphones. But your family lost is what I'm saying. Well, I mean, we know we're all good now. But yeah, they did move to another country and left me behind. Well, listen, you know, they do that move where they go. I literally almost spat water out of what happened. I want to know what happened to another country. I lived with my grandma, and my mom and my dad and my two sisters moved to another country. So that was back when there was no internet. There was no fifty nine cents a minute phone. Call five dollars a minute call another country on the phone, so there's minimal contact and me and my grandma lived in Hawaii. World. I wanna know. How? I wanna know. I wanna tell everyone this half of the show brought to you by Butch your box. Put your box, calm and truecar truecar dot com. Scotts turf builder and Castrol edge. Yeah. So the the phone thing was an insane thing. Like first off. I'm a little older and Tia. But I I remember like a lot of people going can I use your phone? It's like local where are you calling? You're not calling Westwood are you like if you're calling Westwood? No. We live in eight one eight gene grow up in the area where it was like when we were younger. Yeah. It was like the same situation eventually became, you know, the cell phone unlimited minutes all that stuff. So we experienced both. We had for it. Rate to the rate too. So you need you just want to call someone in the bay area from LA it was insanely expensive. And you'd have to move where it's like, all right? We're minute seven. So let's hang up and call me back calling another country. How long are you going to be on the phone with your kid everyone's poor? And they do this thing where they left me behind with nothing, but my bicycle and five bucks, but leaving the daughter behind with nothing but smoking hot, good luck. This not to thirteen year old fourteen year old daughter in another country far far away. Why would what were they doing? Well, my dad got a job in Samoa far far away. And so the family moved with them. I was in middle school, and they wanted me to get back into the high school and the schools were you know, subpar so I stayed behind schools. Yeah. They were they were worried that I wouldn't get back into the Catholic school back in Hawaii. So it wasn't even your choice. It was there. Like, I'm staying no matter what they like everybody should stay. I've really bad feeling about this. Two years later, my dad and mom's my mom and my sisters came back. My dad stayed behind with his twenty two year old secretary. So I was right. I was right. In the Samoa. Linebacker fullback or Cokie. Dad, and my stepmom today, but it hurt when I was trying to picture the Samoa job. I know this insanely racist. I guess. He worked for Bank of Hawaii name moved and worked for Pacific commercial Bank. I think it was in Samoa. All right developing countries need banks are they gonna pay for stuff to show. He he goes there. And how far away is Samoa for another five hours southwest from Hawaii between Hawaii and Australia. Yeah. And and you're with grandma and I'm with grandma so weird being raised by grandma. It was weird. It was hard because she wasn't very, you know, demonstrative, not very huggy kissy all kinds of stuff, you know, where like with my daughter might go on your love. You get off of me. Yeah. But you know, so, but she did teach me fiscal responsibility. As soon as the Bill from Sears came in. We were on the bus down to alma wanted to pay for it because she didn't believe in debt. So that was a good thing to imprint on me grandpa around. No, she was widowed. Like at forty eight. She was very young. Yeah. Yeah. So what did she too broad in the house in Hawaii? She worked for Pearl Harbor for like fifty sixty years. Yeah. And the national park kinda part. No, no, no. She worked like Pearl Harbor. She worked there as a as a librarian and she had the blueprints for the nuclear submarines and stuff like that. So high clear, clear ins, and she. But she. Yeah. Did she worked hard for a long long time? Then started to blossom in a beautiful flower. And at some point. Started buzzing around. Out there. I mean, they brought you to LA right? I was discovered in a grocery store in Waikiki. And that's how I got my first movie. Gorgeous. You should be in my son's movie. We're looking for the female lead. And I went in. But I read for the casting director who did karate kid. So it was on the up and up, and I made pretend I was a shy local Hawaiian girl that phone love with a Caucasian Casanova, and it was a little bit of Romeo. And Juliet, you know, my brother hates him. He hates my brother kind of thing. So it's my first movie on vacation in Hawaii or were they there they were on vacation visiting their son that was going to do this movie. His son was a director. So did you film in Hawaii and filmed in Hawaii got my screen actor's guild card made some money made sag minimum. And so then I moved to Los Angeles. And I had my sag card had some money. I got an agent because I was a female lead on a movie that was coming out seventeen at seventeen you just. What's her name? I don't think of her name, Janice. Janicki sorry. So you just graduate high school and come out or just graduated from sacred hearts academy school for girls. Where did you end up? Did you have a place lined up? Now, I came here with a boyfriend that had a photographic studio and subsequently took all my money and left me homeless. But that's another story. I gather more Mongolia, please glass, please story eighty situation, I know dangerously close the new show, we talk about AJ the Queen. It's coming soon to net flicks. I got a hard date. Yeah. It's created by rupaul and Michael Patrick king sex and the city. This has great all over it so excited knock on wood. The city everyone. Everyone makes fun of me. I it's weird because I like musicals I like sex city, but like dune buggies? Feminine side. Just that's good. Good. It was a really well written show. And so is this one I think we put way too much stock in at a black movies at the white movies and chick movie like people like good good. Get out bunch of white people. Go see because we'd like an intriguing horror whatever we enjoy that. We're not where we I think we're way too unkind to ourselves. And like nobody's gonna watch. Bob, LA, I like sex, and I'm from the man show like sex city because well written funny show. Like, I enjoyed the characters. I don't I don't get. We're way too much into. I gotta see me or I don't wanna see that thing this for other people. Yeah. It's you know, I. You know, I looked at plenty of Playboy's when I was a kid. I wasn't looking for me. I was like oh, not a shot at as fans next issue. Eyebrows. Year. No, I'm kind of looking for the opposite of me. And I was thinking about it ex-pat. I dunno. If he didn't he work on this. But I was thinking of our friend van life from teams E who's in here the other weekend. I realized the number one black movie of all time. His Scarface across the board on them black men. Scarface number one of all time. I don't know if there was a black cast member in scarfing. Prominently. So there you go. Of all time, and there's not a black actor in it. So there you go everybody across overall letting need to know make a movie good story. Good story. This is a good story. So we'll come see it. It's how many how many episodes guys we did ten. I just finished on Thursday just finished. So I came straight to you hot off the press. Way. Look, no further than the NBA to let you know. Everybody wants to see excellence all the time music's pretty popular. Whatever I I don't mind. I liked the part that we all do this. I don't like the part where we decide that. We don't are saying we need something for these people. Are these people won't do that? We do it. There's a million examples every day. Number one morning, each other Asians. It's not an Asian movie. It's a Cinderella story. Right. But modern. That's right. Is that a good movie? It was really good. I saw it like three times. A really anyone just anyone my dog. 'cause I wanted to my daughter to see it's it's really fun well done and really well done clever like texting thing. Yeah. All these little devices that he us. We just terrific. Just a good story. Yeah. All right. We have a you can look out for AJ and the Queen later this year coming to net flicks. We have rotten tomatoes. Oh, no. I'm excited. All tell you. I about butcher box delivers healthy one hundred percent grass-fed finish beef free range or Ganic chicken and heritage breed pork directly to your door on a monthly basis and they have a new protein while the last sockeye salmon sustainably harvested from Bristol bay Alaska the color. In the color is very orange. Let you know it's fresh and not factory farmed all the products. Are humanely raised never given antibiotics or hormones tastes. Unbelievable. I gotta tell ya. Olga. My nanny whipped up some of this sockeye salmon to two nights ago. She made a like a teriyaki glazed salmon on one side, and she made a pesto type on the other and I did both of them. And she's like, I did the teriyaki for the kids, and I'm like, screw them. I. Those are my kids. And I mean that I mean both eight both because I'm gonna hear free shipping anywhere in the US except for Lasca, and who I know commitment cancel easily anytime that got a special offer subscribers get twenty bucks off and two pounds of free ground beef for life, but your box dot com. Enter the code ADEMA. Check out the stuff is good. All right. Shall we? Play the rotten tomatoes game with tear tomatoes game is presented by truecar. Place. And the gang. In honor of today's guest, hold on mex-, Bada break stride. But you got Phil sleeping by the wet. Saw. It just crack me up. It's so God damn loud. And the stupid dog just lays right next to whoever's doing now. Sorry. It's before this. You can you can it's the different angle Sar. Right. We'll play the game. And then we'll get to deaf. He acts death. But if all calls his name, and he knows there's food there. He gets up and try that construction at your house is that what's going on doing instruction. Always and all the time. But. Yeah. So yeah, he'll go. Yeah. He'll go and lay down wherever you're wherever you're working. I'll go slide through the door here. Sorry. He's. They're doing. Now, you see when I slide the door open. Great play. How got damn loud. It is outside. He's four feet away from where these guys are operating a wet soft. Worried about film. Out. You're staring at me on approve playing on a broom determined not to be comfortable. Yes. And if you go forward a little you'll see that he just lays back down and goes to bed. Oh my gosh. Now, most dogs are you fire up a dustbuster running the other side of the apartment, Phil. He's down. Oh, we partying here. Yeah. This is this is thing. They're operating diamond blade. A wet saw makes me long the excitements of the of the song the same way when you race cars the excitement and the channel in the final. Lynn rock, but Adam would be excited. This. Now is now going to sleep turn it up. With your dog. I worried I think he just says a low resting poll. All right. We're good. Anyway. Look at it. He's literally your spirit animal. I'm going to sleep while stuff's going. White noise. It's an abrasive aggressive aggressive sound before feet away. Just. That he he walked there too wasn't like they snuck up behind. Dog. I remember when you were selling the sliding doors and Phil was just sleeping in front of everybody. Figures out wherever you're working in. And they takes nap there where we work in. All right here. We go. Since the beautiful Tia career is here are gain today is going to be themed films. Featuring is co stars. I don't know anything about anything with film trivia, I just happen to be in this business. Just want to say that that's my disclaimer no matter what happens in a little series of films that people may have heard of called Wayne's world adapted from beloved sketch on SNL years later. Wayne himself would star in another adept tation of a well known source material from the mind of Dr. Two thousand three's the cat in the hat. Interesting theater Gessel, Dr Seuss. That's right. What else do things what else worked on whatever? Sketches? I know night at the Roxbury was a huge. Argue that McGrew heads cone wasn't a hip Gruber work. Yes, I love Gruber. Conan's was garbage movie. Lose zilch. All right. So can hat. What do we think? I mean, it's a kids movie. Well, done what was the rotten tomatoes on this is that have to write it down. Oh. It's tough. Sometimes they're tough on these beloved things. It should be easy. It's might Myers. It's a story. Everybody knows. But who knows? Yes. Yeah. And the people that are voting on run tomatoes are not the eight year olds that is aimed Jordan. Yes. All right, Brian. Would he say this isn't outrageously bad movie? Is it I I've been tortured by a few scenes here. And there nursing the whole thing it's grotesque like it's like a live action. Like, Dr Seuss world weird said twenty two. Me. I thought you were so nice. What about you? I said eighty seven percents. Okay. Watch a couple times with my daughter. And I know how much she liked I'm going to split the difference. I said forty four I kinda sorta split it. I said sixty six I just thought Dr Seuss how can you go wrong? The cat in the hat is rotten at nine. T? It's been great having. Whole of you. I gave you the disclaimer and everything I won't let you high at twenty two. Wow. Was you thought it was Doug Flutie? And it was Jim McMahon McMahon. Yeah. How about that jersey number? Sorry. Go ahead completely lost on me to your career was in film, which featured an attempted building to building horse jump. True Lies this next film features no animal stunts, but does have Kaelin's dad. And one of Dylan's favorite nude scenes of all time where a beautiful with aliens, dad. Fiqh naked Arnold is on display nineteen Eighty-four. The terminator. The first one the Michael Biehn vehicle the team. So all right the tomatoes back, then well, they they had critics and then they had tomatoes. The reviews aggregated them. All right. Well, we know the critics alike, but to love it. What's not to love? Very violent. Well, we're all going to go all going high here. But we gotta get right on to make up some ground with Brian. You get a five point deduction to get right on Schwarzenegger is not Shwe. He was the body was a bodybuilder who was in schlocky action movies at this point. I think just keep that in mind, Brian is that is that a spoiler alert you trying to eat never know if he's with us just throwing information. Trying to think. Trying to I can't think of a football player with this number. Then you can't do. Okay. All right. Okay. Bryan wigand. I think Reggie White was ninety two. It was. So I'm gonna go if anything wouldn't be low ninety two. I'm using the same number because an I'm scared because it doesn't make any sense to me eighty seven percent again. I really have no way to raise this. So insanely effective. Let you down this somewhere in the middle. I know that everybody loves us. And I don't even know if you call it a cult classic. It's classic. I got a little shy because I don't know how seriously people took it. I said eighty one. Number simeon. Right. He was like ninety six seven. I'm trying to get ninety seven written down. I can't think of anyone else in the NFL Simeon ninety seven Tam. Good dry for that. I pulled out Simeon rice. I'm not gonna Tampa Bay guy. All right, how your students. All right here. We go. The Terminator is certified fresh. With a score that would never appear on a jersey one on. That. There is Justice in this world is in already. Already learned because I was thinking of going one hundred just because I should have just. I should have you guys shocked. Ross right moving. Have you seen every time? It's on. I don't remember it like that my God ever since dated because just four and it's high tech. But it's awesome. Casing. They do vote properly. Sometimes I was just hedging my bets because people are idiots. One of tia's. I films was Harley Davidson and the marble. Adams favorite Phillips this lug want? What how is that movie described like futuristic LA nineteen ninety six or something? The plot is weird. There's a Burbank airport bar that's going to be torn down stating the community stake. Weird takes place at the Burbank airport, which is an insane. I should should've done. John, Wayne, maybe Long Beach. No recollection of this or any other such events the description of it. Okay. The description is forced by the imminent foreclosure of their friends bar to lifelong buddies. We'll decide to rob a bank's armored car not knowing that it's cargo is not money, but a new street drug drops we have the slug line here. When the going gets tough, the tough take the law into their own hands. Clever. It's too generic. What can we do year that this was supposed to take place? Are you even? The trailer. It's it's kind of like, but anyway, go ahead. All right. Well, of course, Mickey Rourke youngish Mickey Rourke played Harley Davidson a decade prior. He started longside William hurt, Ted Danson and Kathleen Turner body heat in a lesser known Noir, directed by the famous scribe of the Star Wars and Indiana Jones franchises Lawrence Cathy Ashton. Wow. Yeah. Is a great move and the other night nineteen eighty one's body heat. All right. That's a great movie, young Catholic Turner LaLa. But you're like one scene, right? Wasn't a cameo couple scenes. Yeah. Scenes? All right. So they go back and then they look at an aggregate previous scores. See I would give this one hundred. This is Chris counts worth. Now, I know where you're going is this warrants. You memorize people's jersey numbers see enough free time. Yeah. That's sad. I'm going to put this one at. What is God? Let's see Stanford currently in the league and Carolina running back the calf ris, Christian McCaffrey. But his dad was Ed McCaffrey and his dad played for Denver. And he was wide. I think I know his number. Go ahead ball, Brian. I'm going to go. The all time great Jerry Rice at eighty. So nice to you. I said ninety two to I've never seen this movie. I know it's reference. It's awesome than. Yeah. More. I'm surprised how much it's reference. I said ninety two Ed McCaffrey eighty seven. I think it was eighty seven. With denver. So whatever, Ed McCaffrey, silver, rain, man. With those jersey numbers, bald Brian chose the wrong rice body heat is fresh at Simeon rice ninety ninety. Five points, or whatever it is. Did you say ninety seven ninety two. Oh, okay. Deduction audience. Mccaffrey was eighty seven. We also the trailer Harley for them. It's the prescription has it takes place in the near future. All right. Let's let's play trailer because it's going to. My porn. No. Cowboys schools out boys in a room will Indians Bennett beat been cooled been alive and Americans. I can't watch this unless you're women get Spanish good for their never rob a boo. When you can take a bus that look like look. Pros, use my keys never rob a Bank get back. What's mine and killed his? Bigger than. Friendships. Never resist resting. Steve will you got it took to the man upstairs. Yeah. When you. Never died from the twentieth. Slow. We're gonna jump h for this. You guys are piece of work. Mickey Rourke, Don Johnson Davidson, a mobile man believe. Wow. Rules, and you watch that over again that talking to my kids. How old are they? Now. I don't know. I don't talk. Chocolate their nanny. Hold on Wayne's world. Come out there twelve. All right here, we go to your career start alongside to former ACS guests Alexander Nevsky and casper van Dien van Dien in showdown in Manila casper is known for his role in the cult classic star troopers, but also acted next to Johnny Depp, and Christina Ricci in this. Tim Burton film about Christopher Walken having no head and a thirst for clustering. Awesome. Nineteen ninety nine sleepy off. That was a long way round. Gotta have no idea. This year again, thank ninety nine. That's will. Remember this? Who do you say who directed it? Tim Burton, right? Tim Burton always does a good job. Like Mars attacks. A lot of those Kansas. So we also. I didn't hear anything bad. I didn't hear anything good. Yeah. Thinking. No. Trying to that number. I know. Could be Jim Burt park, Bert, Bert. This is collusion since I don't know. What numbers these? They must study going for interior line. Sixty four. Yeah. I got it between Merlin and Jim Burt. Jim burt. I'm Jim I'm thinking the number of shoes that Sarah, Jessica Parker had on sex. Your own. Because the nose tackle for the giants. Who was big puffed up white guy. Always like running out front like everybody. Go over Cheever guy on the Niners Brian from eight ninety one. Glory years. Yeah. He's all right. Let's see everybody picks. I'm going. I'll go in between Dexter Manley. Jesus there guys at home. That know what they're talking about right now. Lime in that. Well, so I'm just going to go sixty one. Airlie fresh. What was your number at him? Dexter, mainly seventy two. He was seventy to ninety two but. I am. I haven't the chiefs. I mean. Sorry redskins. See why? Call go with. Yeah. Go with Dexter. Manley. Redskins. Sorry. Go ahead. And I went with sixty nine just because it's a good number. It's a number. I went fifty five. Sleepy hollow is very Richie incognito at sixty eight. Nice is overrated. That's actually. Hence the incognito. In two thousand two Tia start as Nani in a heartfelt animated film about a young girl named below befriending a rambunctious alien named stitch. Want social services to take you away? They're still very popular. The Disney store there's a lot though in stitch merch. But no ninety degrees. Adly the great Ving rains was also in this film and was in an arguably worse foot movie in two thousand ten the title back in the day. Parana d. We may be getting into place kickers. Am I wrong? This is some point called piranha three double d like, they really. See that would have been a good marketing. You're right because somebody had a screening to this because I was friends with film of with a critic, and I saw this in the theater this movie and then the boob jump out at you. And they really do. Wow. All right. Oh my God. I forgot about this movie. Could be Garo you premium. On. You feel me? Right. I have no idea. What you're talking about half the time. I need a book I need this book. So that I can memorize the numbers you guys have in your head. So are we thinking I mean, again, we could be. Darrelle lamonica. Or any gramatica or any gramatica? But it could be Garo your premiums at all. Do you dare? Go Sebastian Janet Caskey. Dare what is eleven sea bass. Oh, yeah. No. I'm I'm at Garo. I have any chance of winning this. Anyway, I'm going Gary your premium. I'm going Steve Young what number eight. Tia I say three percents because it's three D. I think I just have fond memories of actually seeing this theater. I went high said ten. Piranha three d. Is certified fresh. What is happening? She tried to find number seventy three. Why why? Somebody's pulling our leg. No, come on those tomato. People are just making a joke right now. Wait. What's happening here? Seventy three was my number the Sun Valley falcons. I don't know if I made we go it's on. Indeed three I should have been kinder. What's Carol your premium? He's one. I know, of course. While you're off I seventy two Garin Kehro Garo, your premiums substitute teacher professional athlete ladies. Impressed that you news number was one. It's like Wallace, Shawn great Howard. Rate is light. In the in the annals of like kickers, not being athletes. He said annal. There when they played in Super Bowl, whatever when they when they played the Redskins, and he got his kick blocked, and he didn't know what to do. Now. Also, it's a great moment. Not only that. But he was like a soccer player from like, Hungary or something at some point. All he did was kick the ball at some points. The phone guy. And he didn't know what to do with. It was a busted play was either blocker bad snipers. A block, and and you guys can watch. But positive for saying what I'm saying is upset this million times. The kickers really have nothing to do all practice. You know, what I mean kicked field goals, but they don't have a lot to do work. A little emergency drought case. Case game kick the ball against. In front of a cinderblock wall. The ball bounce back to them, and this and roll out with it and have some have some, you know, second tier coach run after with sort of like a pad or something waving their arms. Just to kind of just to simulate watch Garo does with the ball when it gets blocked by. And by the way, they're winning the game at this point maiming. They're gonna win in Washington. It's not scored a point. And here's what happens when Garo kicks the ball kicks. It it gets blocked now watch. What CARA does? A little kid playing on can't even make. He doesn't make a tackle. He could've made the Washington didn't score. This is the only score Washington half price as the ball. Benny baths it in the air, then only tackle the guy score. And he can't even push out of bounds. This is the only touchdown by the dolphins in the game. This is the famous undefeated the only undefeated team. Right, right. So yeah, I can play better football than that anybody away from the ball, and you did better push your mouth about down. It's the dumbest thing ever the guys running along the sideline. It doesn't weird fake move. Like I'm coming back in and he stops. And then just keep going push him out of bounds. That's part of you. Hear like interviews today with Larry Czanka, and those guys they still hate Garo for that. They're still hate them. They're still not they could have been the undefeated dolphins who kept out who shut out the Redskins Super Bowl. All right. Sorry. War garo. Wait, we have another one that was five certified fresh Jesus. Wow. Brian. They'll be no winners in. This was going to say there's a pyrrhic victory. No one scored under one hundred. That was exhausting. Gina grad come out of score of one hundred thirty seven. Yeah. Adam corolla? You're one hundred forty six. Which was just you slightly more down the podium. This is not indicative of of what the excellence that. We normally. And I hope you don't walk away with a bad taste about did Tia career make up enough ground at the end to make it onto the podium today for score coming in at one hundred. Sixty seven. For fourth place. There are no winners in this game. Well, 'specially bald Bryan with a score of one hundred ten. I would be proud of that. Don't clough. This is a game. By truecar. All full of life and happiness is ruined. My day. Parana three D has a higher score than the blues brother's -rageous. I think that's what I'm saying. All right. Let me tell you about truecar sixty seconds. That's how long this spots going to last. You know else you can do and sixty seconds. You get an offer on your car. Just go to truecar use your smartphone or your computer. Enter your license plate number and watch your car's details come pop and ride on up answer few questions getting accurate true cash offer from your local truecar certified dealer, then you can bring your car in the check it out together. Ask if you questions get a few answers, no surprises, then you leave and you can leave with a check or you can trade in your car for new car or a used car either way. It's truecar when you're ready experience better way to sell or trade in your car. You check out truecar today. They knew used or if you just want to leave with a check and a smile, it's always true car. All right, Tia, the show AJ and the Queen coming soon on Netflix. So put it in your cue there, you can shoot or tweet at TI career if you like website to your dot com. More info on that Tia always a delight my beer, this is fun except for losing the game. So miserably. All right. Thank you. We got we got rich banks bracket madness. I'm very excited. So many good songs. We'll take a quick break. We'll be right back after this. With Dr drew alert suggest you listen to the doctor podcast comes out every Tuesday. And it is my chance to loved him chance to really dig into people and. What makes them take what's going on? It's a long form, but we can get into material and that I just can't get into anywhere else. And it's a privilege to be able to spend that time really getting into. So please join me on the doctors. Dr drew podcast every Tuesday on Corolla digital cast one. Let's do the secret life of the Imos nesting doll living most of her life in the dock inside the other nesting Dole's. He has plenty of time to think if we could sadly, she has no brain, however, when in a most nesting dole, his gyco not only saves people money, but also has been providing great service over seventy five years. She thinks it's obvious. You should switch because. Yes. Switching to Geico is a no brainer in most nesting Dollond lot in life. Corolla breeds a tweet from James woods. wire hashtag Democrats gearing up their jihad against Jews. Now back to the Adam Corolla show. Yeah. Boy such fervent thoughts for child. I favored one of Jim's Jane's because he did another mom. Oh, your mom, your mom on brothel. It's old school. And I love the mom stuff. It's good. I attended think the brothers are a little more mom being fat. And why these a little more mom being a hor-? I feel like we should get together in call your mama fat hor. Yeah. Doesn't really work because there's not a lot of real chunky streetwalkers out there, and they're not going to do. Horry real neat. Yeah. So. Sure. God. Somebody tweeted James woods, are you still acting or is the career washed up to which he replied, I wish your mom had washed up. My dog is sick. Now. My. Implying that his dog had sex with the mom every dog Walker. This syphilis ridden mother got his dog had sex with names. Mom. Yeah. Man. I wish your mom had washed up. My dog is sick. I didn't even stop all. I news was gold. But in no, it was platinum. You know what I mean? I just favored it moved on. I didn't even do the math dog at actually had sex with. This guy's mom. Give the Dell. Do. So on. All right. Well, get Sunita read that one with place. Okay. All right. We got the banks bracket madness here. I guess the idea behind this. Yeah. Doctoral? Explain it for you. Once we start. Let the madness Kim. It's time for round one of banks bracket madness all through March. We're pitting the best of rich banked ballads against each other. And you the fans will decide which is his masterpiece are nomination committee listened to literally hundreds of songs going all the way back to the old Adam Corolla morning show, then seeded thirty two of banks best in to eight conferences. Today's first matchup is from the kale SX conference. I up in two thousand six the show wins at the playboy mansion for the first of several Halloween. Parties called blotto in the grotto, and we teed it off with this. As the sperm fly. Sweaty up overnight old man have has group mean as pipes in the ground. In the. And his girlfriend cry. If there's one things she to do and where the pan look in the auto. Who? Don't you understand the grotto is a deal? Land. It's a steaming pot human fluid stew. Civilised proceed crabs and here the title, see, new Nolan's, you you're been side that. As the waters. Snobby girl gets on her knees. Honing young man gets disease in the grotto. And his penis. Need Valtrex to get it right down. Got that. In the garage. In two thousand seven the radio geniuses kale. Saks decided the show needed to be retooled. So they added a tool. Here's a song about him. It was many many years ago. His life was really sad. Being changed by. Almost bones. And he didn't really care with the crap. He's done. I'm amazed. Because he was so very high. Gary. To be. On prescription. Our second round features two songs from the lackey conference. The first is our most recent entry. K then. What should the house? Scame? Found. Was not. Rapid? Thirty. Kanaan's too. It. Yeah. His. Facing off against that gem is another song about a staffer doing some dirty business. This time though, it's not in the bedroom. It's in the bathroom. So. Maybe one man. Through the. Shitting? He's in this shitting. Go to Adam Corolla dot com now and cast your vote to see which songs advance to the next round more tomorrow on banks bracket madness. Standard. This is thrown God. It's also good. And I tell you the one that I like the ones I like the best. But I don't I don't want to way way the vote. All right. I have interesting New York Times article share with you a personal story about being pulled over by the heat little license plate issue. I know buddy. I know and it couldn't have come at a worse time. I'll tell you. 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I don't know two hours tops, and we turn around rolled out of their. We had to all meet at LAX at six am which meant I had to leave my house about five fifteen. I sadly, like I said I go to bed at midnight. Whatever it is. Whatever comes the next day. It's just midnight. That's when I go to bed. So sadly on those mornings. It's it's tough. Also man is your brain not work when it's leap deprived. And you know, they was kind of talk about that. You know, it's like three years or whatever. But it is it costs four beers for me. And I was so through my hat through forbears and. Breakfast champion. So I got up at five I had this. I never do the move like people go like I like to give myself an hour to read the newspaper, and it's sort of settle into the day. Now, I go to I'm going to bed at midnight. I set my learn for five hours, I get up. It's a six twenty boarding time. I it's forty five minutes, I get up, and it's dark and freezing outside and my commitment to jumping into the swimming pool is fine on on days. I can ease into it. But on the clock ticking days, which is to say, there's no such thing as getting dressed getting ready getting your stuff together. And then jumping in the pool you have to jump in the pool immediately. And it's like I'm looking at the clock. It's like five seven, and I'm like, I live to run outside jump at the. Cool and then get out and then and then get the hell out of here. And I did and it got the hill out of there in because I was driving like I probably hit the road ended up being a little laid it was like five twenty two little after five twenty. But that's okay. I was going to make it to LAX and self park by six six five six eight whatever it's like, seventy employed. I was making good time and because on the road at five in the morning and because of still half asleep. I just blew right past the one ten on the five I didn't split off normally graphic. You normally at that point. You're normally going seven miles an hour by dodgers day aware, and I just blew talking to Mike on the phone Mike left his house at like four thirty in the morning or something it was already LAX five thirty and I was talking to him. And I was like look at just blew right past. And now I had to get off on like Alvarez street and try to like work my way back to find that. And I was I remember I was thinking. Ooh. Now, pushing it a little bit and the one ten had a lot of traffic on it. And I was sorta like couldn't it a little close now and got on the one ten. And I was trying to make a little time in the whatever fast pass lane is I don't I have one of these boxes. Don't clearly understand how it works somehow LA city decided to use two lanes on the side of a freeway. That's already insanely congested. It's basically, I guess it's five lane. So they decided to take forty percent of the lanes and designate them to people wanted to pay money for some sort of fast pass box or something that you. The the dash your car, and I have one, and I don't know if I pay thirty bucks a month. I don't I don't know if it's still hooked up. I know how it works. It's kind of insane that we've taken a traffic problem and made it worse by just opening up. These two lanes that are sort of open, but I have the box, and I started going, and it's dark outside and Mike's already the airport a little behind and all of a sudden, I just get lit up. I just see that sirens behind me and everything and my first impulse God damn, please just buzz around me or go get the real bad guy or go, do whatever it is. And it's like, oh, no, it's it's understood and I'm in the far left lane. So I have to start making my way over to the right lane. And now like, I think I made miss this flight I missed my ramp on the left. I left at a time that left really no margin for error and I- aired already by getting off at Alvarez street and now being pulled over. So I. Started getting pulled over. And I'm always like my biggest fear is to is to not satisfy them fast enough like the go too long without. So I started put my blinker on started moving over moving over, and I found an open spot, but it was an open spot that was had a ramp on the right side. It wasn't all freeway on the left is pulled over. And then the guy got on the squawk box pull over to the next whatever. And okay, drove again, I'm stopped on the ramp. So if you could picture that slice of pie right of the ramp on one side, and the framing I pulled over on that. And now, I'm stopped on that. And the cars are going up the ramp and the other cars are going buzzing by on the left and now it's like no keep going. I couldn't have a more dangerous activity in terms of getting into an accident. But either way go to the next, you know, so I drove forward I went to found some space. It seemed to be open shoulder pulled over there's plenty of traffic. Stopped. I opened my passenger window because I realized that guy was going to be coming around that side. And now, I'm like it's like six oh nine or something. And I gotta make Dallaire act Fords and eleven minutes. Yeah. In the guy pulled around and he said pulled the over because your license plate. You have a template on their whatever could've we institute. This this simple rule in the land of the worst traffic in the world. Could we institute could hero Garcetti when he's not? Begging us to open arms, and and and and give a fruit basket to those felons who have been released prematurely. Could he institute this which is no polling people over for chicken shit during peak traffic hours now if someone is driving drunk or someone's dragging a bumper or somebody's robbing a Bank by all means, but the legal tint or the or the dealer plate on the back or the no front license plate on the front hag on the on the. Yeah, whenever whatever the laundry list of neither here, nor there tickets that they give you that don't impose any danger on the populace or whatever could we have a little more Torian, which is during peak hours. We don't pull people over for nothing tickets because you're exacerbating, the traffic problem, and it's more dangerous to everyone involved. That's more dangerous to the officers more. Commuter the motorist, whatever. So that's an off our actively. Yeah. But it's four in the afternoon by all means go go do that. But let's during these sort of peak traffic hours, let's work to keep things moving along versus this. Because of course, I have to go from the left lane all the way across soon as the guy hits the rollers lights me up everyone around kind of slows down a little, and then we all have to make our way over. And then when we're over everyone has to slow down to do a little rubber necking as they pass us. So that's a crazy idea. I'd like the institute this guy is pulling me over for having a not for not having a license or drunk driving or Radic driving speeding or nothing. I have a dealer plate so calorie he pulls me over and he comes around the passenger side. And he goes pull the over for having a dealer play. I should. Yeah. And he. Said are you going to work and? No. I said I'm going to LAX to make a flight, and he said, okay. And then he said could have your license, and I happen to have my boarding pass. And my Tinder and everything like sitting on the passenger seat. And he said, I think you said again like going to work or something I said, no, I'm going. I'm trying to catch a seven AM flight, and I handed him the I tin ary any looked at it. And I think it did some form. And then you wanna know if I had my weird travel in the whatever box box on my dash. Box easy pass box, or whatever it is the part where you pay tons and taxes, but you have to pay a little bit more. So you can drive on the freeway. And I said, yeah, I got the box, and he sort of looked at it when okay, you got the box, and then he somewhere between the box the boarding pass and a license that may have had Lakers middle name. He sort of got the right? This guy's not out Capone. He saw up against it. And also. They're always kind of look I think they're always looking for pushback. We'll no I think they're looking for everything. But what they want said all the time when a little meat on the bone fix it ticket. It's not score. That's a that's a lake doubt a infield single for them. What they're looking for not having that box in being in a double or that's double maybe even triple like, I can really get fine for writing in that lane without the box. Once they find you have the box once they find out you have a license tabs or what's everything's in order. Right. It's this winging its swinging bunt that that's what they have. And then it's like. See he let's go fix the ticket nothing. No. Because it's a ticket doesn't really get them any money and to be fair to him. He was like all right. This guy's got everything in order and he's going to LAX and his flights leaving forty one minutes. Selfishly? I feel great about this. I feel relieved because if you had to put those plates on then with that mean for the rest of us and we all have to put our plates on now. Tough now. 'cause it's like you feel like this going to happen a lot. Let me ask you how the crystal brain coordinates on a Friday, how many days ago was it that I predicted this exact scenario happened to you four or five days. It was I mean. Don't. I said your dealer plate your old school the other plate, you how whatever Calvin or whatever it is. That's a beacon beacon the cops. And this car is many more than three months old, please pull me over. Why is it because now now starting January first you have to give you the dealer temporary place on them. And now that it's March first three months have a clip so anything with a dealer plate with Galvin or whoever that is. Hey, man. This car is variable much older than three months, maybe need fake. A felony might be a little. I don't care make up a fake. That was my initial question. What do we do? Well, we're a plate that has my license plate number on it feels or elaborate, you're right because now that it's been three months, you know, anything past March or whatever middle of March or whatever it is would have to have the paper plate or bealty used to be. They never. Car washed, and nobody cares. Yeah. I gotta work out something that doesn't doesn't involve complying, please. Tell us whole. That was my original question power. Again, I didn't say had a fix all. I got I got nothing. But you're right. We gotta figure something out. Maybe I'll take the plate off all the gutter. Ooh. Ten like there was an accident or something a little bat to his own car. Yeah. That'll show them. Yeah. It's sad. But I got to do something other than. Yeah. Yeah, you're right anyway, didn't get a fix it ticket. But now, I don't wanna get pulled up in the morning on the way. And yeah, you're right. So do cannot alter the plate, maybe or something. I don't care. I'm done this cities such pile of shit. I don't even care anymore. Somebody. Somebody tweeted me. Remember, we're talking about the person that sits there when the light changes, or the arrow turns. And they just sit there, and you're everyone. Yeah. That's everyone in your six cars back. Go go go just sitting there for three Mississippi, and you don't think you're gonna make the cut somebody's day. I'll I'll let you. I'll pick out the the countries. And then you tell me which one it comes which one comes out of in either Germany, Mexico or Uganda. They do a thing where when it's a red light before it turns green it the red blinks for like three seconds. Blink blink. And it's changing now because we live in a land where it's red. And then it's green, but people are looking down texting or or just just wandering off the brains, but imagine live the land where that red light blink three times. And got you poised to move for wrote down Uganda. Okay. Let's because it's technologically savvy. Yes. How set you that? Every traffic problem. We have has a solution somewhere in the world. Well, again, if we had a traffic zones are that traffic czar would travel to stewed guard stunning look around, and you know, all the stupid stuff, we do which is like we travel around and we look at. Oh there. Right. So many bicycles in Finland or so we should just do that with the traffic. And then just have that could you imagine if every signal did that, and we coached everyone up to that up call. Yeah. Easy wouldn't need a lot of hardware. Just software little. Update exists Germany in. I don't know since what ninety six or something like Jesus it's been around for a long time here, you're reading traffic light timing lived in Germany in nineteen Ninety-seven their lights flash. A few seconds before turning green. So you could get the clutch engaged and get ready. They take their driving seriously over there, we need this now more than ever because of cell phones, we still call ourselves and California the beacon of all things in the future. When all this stuff is so laughable, it is. It's it's infuriating that we every time Garcetti makes one of his speeches. He always talks about like leading the way in innovation and exploration. We open our arms to communities, and we it's all that's like, we're the we're the tip of the spear. Okay. So be it. We have the worst goddamn traffic in the world. We do just a little. Bit of that and innovation or lead the way or or creation or opportunity the way in the subject and one subject that we have the worst problem in. It's such a weird we're counting homeless pupil. So we're doing fine. After leave that God damn LAX Garcetti enough. Fucking canoe. Just sitting. Around this town. Well, here's a Los Angeles nature. Catches you by surprise Epping and Hobo shit. If that's nature. 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Go Away Little Boy

Fame is a Bitch

40:20 min | 2 years ago

Go Away Little Boy

"From workhouse connect in a j Benza. Vein. He liked to be walked on a leash and play really dirty kinky sex camps is the guy put the cop and the peacock network. Okay bitch. Hey, everybody AJ Benza here famous bitch. It is March fifteenth twenty nineteen half the month is over that means I should be half. Glad or maybe only. Half some shit. I'm about to take the rest of the month. I don't know. But I will tell you about my night last night before launching to the show. Tell me from crazy. I'm in my anger management crew. Right. And I like to grow veneer about eight nine weeks, and you sit around and circle Zoll guys last night, and you more or less tell people how you week win. If there are any incidents in your your week, and how you handle them, blah, blah, blah, coping cetera. It's gone along just fine. They didn't get to me yet. But the guy next me is doing his thing. He's going on and on it's going to long and no one quite understand it. So some of us jumped in and try to like elaborate on things that happens to kick things around and the guy who I never liked this guy. Let's call him. Perry. I never liked Perry. The first time I saw him. I could tell because I had that instinct that intuition that is curse. I could tell this guy. I don't like me who knows maybe Gogel made people do that. I don't fucking know. He didn't like me. So now eight weeks later and before he's going to begin to tell the rest of his story. He goes I like to say something and the two councils in the class, go trip. Go right ahead. Before I begin to talk about my week AJ. You are sniffling lot. I don't know if you have a cold or allergy, but I'm not going to continue until you blow your nose and less. I had no snot up my nose. I wasn't stuffy I do that. Sometimes maybe it is a fucking allergy thing. I don't know. But I didn't have any clarity on the Benadryl. I never had someone stop in mid story. And tell me the blow my nose. So now the old me would have walked over tipped over his chance. Maktum ahead and told stories all my friends, and I probably would have bought the guy drink and become friends. And that was the old me. The new me looked at him and said, I'm not gonna get up and blow my fucking nose to make you happy. Fuck yourself. I don't know who you think you are. But you're in the wrong subway train this happened to New York, you'd be dead finish your story. We'll talk about my nose next week. Now, of course to councils get oh agent. What are you feeling some fucking feeling man? I'm feeling anger. Well, no anger is not really feeling anger is something that happens after what you're feeling what you really feel anger is the second emotion. I said, I feel disrespected bam. This respect is not real guys failure can somebody tell this guy shouldn't tell me to blow my nose and middle of anger management costs class come on. They wouldn't tell them that. This went on for twenty minutes. Finally, the guy who didn't talk at all is really in the corner. Just waiting to talk about his week on. Get into what I feel about him because I can look at him and tell him what was wrong with them. But I'm not here to judge. He starts crying because he hasn't talked yet. I mean, this it was like a Seinfeld episode or Larry San Larry, David, whatever picked the reality show slash entertainment show. That's what it was like I wanted to leave. Beg me. Stay I stayed still pissed off. But then they called me today to cancels call me today to say, we're sorry. We didn't say to Perry that he shouldn't have said that that was rude. But we really wanted to tune into tap into your anger in which you feeling fair enough. I'll come back next line today. We'll do it again. And I'll find a word other than disrespect that I was feeling so I guess run the same page. But can you believe that? I mean, fuck whatever it's March. I tell you it's March. So one thing I wanted to add for all of you didn't listen to yesterday's yesterday. Patriot show about a touching tribute to my father. I wanted to even the score because I gave my mother one year and a half ago. I wanted to give them for dad because he died last week thirty four years ago. A lot of people liked it, very happy. Did it was a joy to to write and to and to tape and talk about, but I wanted to tell a number of you because a lot of you have similar stories about your dad or your mother, and I wanted to tell you guys something that I think I said this a long time ago, but I have a lot of new listeners, basically when I lost all that money and have to go back to long Alan and live in my sister's house, which is the house that was next door to the house wheel Lifton, and she we used to share a backyard together. And we grew grape Arbor in my yard and some forty five years later when I go back to my sister Rowsley south that great, Barbara, even though it was cut down the new people cut down the Arbor got rid of the great. Well, it still grows in different portions of the yard. And it's it's. Owing over these like thirty foot hedge pine trees. My sister has and the grapes are now in her yard. And she's now able to take the grapes off the vine and make grape jelly, and she's almost ready to make wine with the amount. She's getting probably next summit. But that's not the story the stories this what I went back to live with Rowsley and Rocco was only two years old, and I slept in one bed with him a single bed and my wife slept with Roxy and another single bed in the next room. And she was going to second grade and seeing the same I mean in the same classroom. I was and in nineteen sixty eight nine whatever it was. So one night I'm going to go Rocco, and I'm laying down and he's too. He doesn't know my my father. He has no stories about my grandfather. Maybe saw a picture, maybe. But he was too young to explain who grandpa the Manua met was so one night him I lay down, and I'm singing songs, whatever any goes. Daddy move over. What's matter? He says you're squishing the man home-ice question. What man now he's too? He said the man with the mustache and young kids. Look at you, very calm. Like, he wasn't laughing. I said this man with a moustache in the bed. Yes. He space in between us. Okay. Rob. Now. My father had a big mustache, my father looked like almost Sharieff or or how Lyndon from barring Miller with his mustache. The reason why I think my my son felt him on the bed some years before that my sister. And I and my father all had this form of ESP this extrasensory perception that the three of us had not my mother, and my sister Lorraine the three of us. It was insane. My sister there were times when my sister would be all eating dinner at her house, and all of a sudden, she turned and say daddy, the fish jumped out of the fish tank, and we had an Oscar fish, and it never jumped out at the time before and obviously be called an Oscar and one day, we're all eating Rosie just stopped serving food. It's daddy Oscars out of the fish tank. We all ran through the backyards into our house down the hall into the living into the fish tank with Oscar on the carpet flapping, he jumped at years before that in my childhood, my mother and father went to the movies me, the Raynham Rosalie ro home about an hour and a half into us being alone. Rowsley just goes daddy lost his wallet. What are you talking about? He lost his wallet. So my father mother come home, forty minutes later from a movie soon as they walk in Rowsley jumping daddy. Daddy. Where's your wallet? And he goes back poverty goes fuck is my won't what the foot he went back to the ADA somebody turned it. So my sister has this thing I had this thing. So few years ago before my sister. I had this daydream. I was awake. It was daytime I have this vision of my father laying on a bed the same bed. I ended up sleeping with Rocco laying on a bed and he's moving his hands in front of his face because he can't breathe. He's having trouble breathing. I don't know what it meant. But I knew I had to call my sister because we're tuned up together on caller at work. I said rump looking on seeing daddy he's laying on Jackie's bed. He's laying on his bed. Knee camp. Read these moving things off his face. What's going on in that room daddy camp breath? My sister goes last night the closet pole broke in the bedroom. I took off all the coats out of the closet. I laid them on the bed. I said get out leave work, go home and take the fucking coats off the bankas. Daddy suffocating. This is a gospel taupe, and she did it, and she's apologizing out loud side that him. Sorry. So Iraq told me smashing the man with the mustache, you think. I don't believe in. You think I think my son's crazy? No, no. There's another side for all you people who lost relatives or loved ones. Just know if you are lucky enough to have those stories happen to you. It makes you feel so much better about them not being around because you know, they're around. I just wanted to give you that little bit of story that bit of history because that part about my father's watch stopping exactly when he died apparently has happened over the people, especially people who believe in all sorts of numerology, which I don't know anything about. So I just wanted to add that, and I hope it makes you hope if you chose it gave me chills Christ. I have a few things to talk about today. Today's been crazy day, but I've been looking at the news, and you know, thousand things going on. I I could pick one thing into a whole show about one story, but the hallmark channel and Laurie Lachmann. Do I say, I say, Ron I think it's Lafon. I dunno. Hallmark channel obviously just gave her a pink slip and they pulled the plug on garage sale mysteries. Which I I've never watched. But I I understand it's popular. And now they're pulling her other series when calls the heart or they're putting on on ice for law. Put it that way. The prime time episode. I think it's going to air March seventeenth, I believe. Yeah. And the trying to come up with what they call creative solutions for her Abigail station character. And now that she's indicted in this big behind love operation varsity blues I loved I just keep thinking about the part lawsuit blues ca quarterbacks bang in the cheerleader on top of the washing machine. I think that's the right movie. Maybe that's the other either way. I love blues down put look how all the all these options. They say they're exploring saying, you know, yes, she's been indicted. But what I'm absolutely sure it's going to happen all options are being explored on how to take this already filmed episode and move forward bullshit. It's not trust me. She'll be out of it. And you watch even though even though the writing on the fifth and final season of fuller house hasn't started yet. I've heard the writers already know you may not want to write about auntie Becky as they were going gonna ride around or this year. You know, she's out. She's she basically just eat her career jussie smollet that his first name has become a verb productive career. He just is she just your career. But curiously it makes you wonder what will happen with shameless. Because of William H Macy's part. In this bribery, scandal or the upcoming show. He's on central park. I hope nothing comes of people shows because there's so many other actors and crew members who worked parred and need to need to get there. They need to see their work on the screen. It's not fair because somebody fucked up. But what happens, you know? When William H Macy participated, he was fully aware of what was going on. Sorry that he has a wife was fucking obnoxious and bitchy and controlling, but he no. And if you hit a transcript, he just kinda murmured cool when he was told of the idea and the amount of money, they were gonna give what gets me laughing is that. They gave fifteen thousand Felicity Huffman and fucking William H Macy because they're big stocks. Could you imagine how they how Laurie locked fields and the designer husband given half a mil I guess hallmark doesn't carry as much weight as desperate housewives or HBO? But that's a vast. That's a big discrepancy. Now, you know, look. Some people are very disappointed with hallmark feeling. They shouldn't have to cancel it. Hold back. The shows and fire the actors and crew over this. But to that I say, well, what did you say that about Weinstein and less Mon visit Kevin Spacey. Z sons Ari who are all fired or blackballed the second their alleged crimes came to light. No, you didn't on pretty sure. Most of you condemn them all before they were found guilty in a court of law. Many then everyone to quote a wall, but there were found guilty. So you can't be hypocritically here. A company has every right to protect its brand. I don't want them to but companies have every right to protect their brand and to disassociate themselves from somebody for moral ethical reasons before found guilty in a court of law, which was a separate thing. By the way, there is such things such a thing called morals clause. I've signed him. I didn't know I did sign him until the bosses e told me listen, you can't punch again face the nightclub that kind of violates the morals clause that moral squad. And they showed me where I signed. So those things exists and when you commit a felony. Yeah. That's no good. But the thing is you don't get to pick and choose based on whether you like this actors smile or their characters laugh or whether the sleazy guy, you don't like he should go to jealous. Not the way. It works companies got every right to sever ties. Whatever forget forget about what the public thinks. It's in the morals clause people for towns of doesn't have much morals or many morals. It is in the contract. It is in the it is in the fine print. Earlier in the week before. All this stuff broke set aside pot of show to talk about Richard Pryor. And I'll tell you why. Because just when just when you just when you forgot the vision of Richard Pryor being fucked by Marlon Brando or Richard pry banging Marvin Gaye along comes as ex wife, Jennifer to confirm that those things in fact, it happened. And I wanted to talk all about that. That's that's still use story. Whether you believe or not I believe because I let you ex-girlfriend, Michelle. Brando Marlins door told me an admitted to me that our dad fuck James Dean, and you know, she has done on good authority from her father. But there's so much more going on here. Part of what I love about. Richard Pryor is how or loved the Batum is how insanely honest he was and whether he would talking about. Basically how he would have welcomed this kind of conversation. He would have enjoyed this debate. And that's what his ex wife is saying that they'll fucking out. Don't worry about Richard being man. He would have brought this up on stage at the time. When the time was right. He would have met it head on. Are just too many people get offended by things the bottom line is. There was a time when Richard Pryor even spoke in front of a crowd a largely gay crowd. I think in San Francisco, and he just blurted out. He just blurted out to them. Yeah. I got my dick sucked. I'm one of you. All. And it it hurt. It hurt him that when he said that he didn't seem to get the kind of support. He thought he would. And once even get that support. I don't know whether it in believe him or they just couldn't picture, but they didn't they didn't believe I think what he was saying he went off on them. And it got really blow, and he was fucked isn't fucked out an N word. This n word that he went crazy. A lot of angry gay guys that didn't like being spoken to that way. But Richard didn't like not being accepted by the gate crowd. Having having already admitted any did that it was a weird night. It's out there on tape somewhere. It might even be on YouTube. But I doubt it it's out there somewhere because I saw it a while ago. And I know the reaction he expected he didn't get and it hurt him. So that's why I think you know, he would have he would have met this conversation on if he'd still been alive. He was basically saying to that crowd. Even though I had another man's member. In my mouth, you motherfuckers. Still don't accept me because some black. That's really where his anger went. It hurt her. And I was gonna go deeper into that story. But today has been a cavalcade of insane stories that I feel I gotta touch on for starters. Okay. For starters. I never thought I'd see a bigger beard than the ones we saw on duck dynasty. But here comes Rosero Dawson trying to take that title away as the biggest beard in the world. She announced today that she and the presidential candidate. Cory Booker are fishery dating there was that rumor known aroun-. I don't believe it. I think it's bullshit. I think this is Rosanna Dawson. And I think this is Cory Booker bringing along for the ride because it looks good for him. And I think it's her way of kind of taken one for the old liberal team. I think this is area Dawson making all Hollywood POWs think she may be the next first lady, and what a story that would be because Rosario was born to a sixteen year old mother a mother who when resort was five her mother decided to settle the family in an abandoned building in Manhattan's Lower East Side, all of us in New York. No this story they were squatters she and her husband. They renovated one of the apartments. They fixed the plumbing and the electric wiring for the building, and they stayed in his disgusting. Believe me back then the Lower East Side. You wouldn't have wanted a stray cat live in those buildings. There was heroin dealers all around junkies. Dine in the street, bad bad bad, and you know, resign. Dawson likes to say that that that whole lifestyle taught her valuable lesson it if you want something better, you've got to do it yourself, whatever it fucking movie stars talk that way, I just wanna laugh because we've already seen what people who with money and influence due to get something they want that's better like getting their kids to a better school we've already seen. So if really should've said that she spent a good portion of her of re youth shitting into a bucket. That's what her mother the squatter did for her. So I think this is all part of a ploy to make resign Dawson. Think about what this looks like even though Cory Booker has no shot. He's going to be up there in the primaries debating people, and if he gets the nomination shit can he be Trump? And if he does Dawson could be the next first lady and she'll finally be a hot black. I lay. Eighty because Michelle Obama was not I can't entertain that any more when you line up against all the other presidents wives of poor. She ranked the first three, of course, because what we worked with you. But you don't beat Milania and Jackie O is Jackie L. I gotta put Michelle tred can't move her up. And I don't I can't I could sneak up behind to overtake. Let's keep were three. And let's let it be happy. Rosario Dawson jumps into the fray in my mind. She's number one. Now car had married Trump. Then we got a winner. But that didn't happen. But I think that's where the going now. I have a horrible story to say today story that bothers me it hurts me say this. 'cause you know, how I feel about this, dude. But actually considering what I heard about him recently how he acted like you never heard of me. Maybe I'm not too said telling the story. So Mickey Rourke was on a movie set today in Hollywood on sound stage. And he was so fucking it. I've been told it was really embarrassing and said, I have it on good. This is not like a rumor from a friend. I know someone who was there and was involved in this movie. He came to the set fucked up did not know any of his lines at all he didn't even know what the film was basically about they had the remind him very low budget in b movie called legionnaires trail sounds like something you catch on a fucking airplane with bad air conditioning or on a cruise ship somewhere. Remember legionnaires disease? Fucked up was that. League Grenache trail, not really one you're to want to run out and see actually it's never going to be an fear. But you're not gonna wanna stream it. It's about a person who's a half Roman whose entrusted with the mission of crossing the snowy mountains are media swarming with party and patrols to seek help for slowly dying men. Now Mickey doesn't play this half Roman soldier. But he's in the movie with Lance Hendricks Hendrix. I don't know and byline we all know by laying when she's not acting. She she's yachting on all all sorts of yachts around the world. That's how she stayed alive. She's very good on her back. But for this film, a friend of mine told me, she memorized, all our lines and all the scene she had where with Mickey. Okay. And Mickey could not speak. He could hardly talk. And he knew none of his lines. So they have to call in a teleprompter operator and put Mickey's lines on screen now. This is done on television. All all the time pretty much. I had to beg e to get me on eventually, I even offered to pave my own fucking thing. They wouldn't do it. I said guys, I'm I'm two paragraphs into a long read of memorizing a paragraph for mysteries and scandals and somebody honks to fucking horn. And we gotta go again, you know, I'm three quarters through the opening of misery and a helicopter. Come gotta go again, put the fucking thing on screen. What does it cost two hundred dollars a day? I'll pay it. Then they finally got one about six months into the first season. Then I was a wiz. Because once you don't have to memorize your lines. You just have to know one to hit words, and you can walk without looking. It's great. You look like a fucking pro. But for a movie star it's only used when when movie stars have really long past. Like, let's say Jack Nicholson a few good men. I'm not sure even used one. But it certainly would have been offered. You know, we live in a world that has walls who's going to guard them, you Santiago, you know, that might have worked for Jack. But but for Mickey never heard of that. And you know, he just wasn't too long ago that he did the wrestler, and he was great knit, and Nikki I understood was not getting high anymore. But I'll tell you something. He was hiccuping allot, which I don't wanna get into that certain kind of thing kind of combination. I don't wanna say, but it's not good, right? And after an hour to that he eventually changed into street clothes and left six hours early. The crew was fucking adamant. I mean Mickey's the draw in the movie no one's going to see by lane. But something's up with one of Mickey's beloved, you hours died not too long ago. And if you've ever looked is Instagram page, which is down. Now, he said he was taken down about two and a half months ago one of the dogs died, and he really it broke his heart. He I've eaten dinner with him and his dog. I took my dog with him to ongo couple of clears what our dogs feeding on dogs fucking Neil key. But you know. Once that dog died Mickey taking my page down disappear for law. I think he might be coping with that deaths. Because he doesn't handle he doesn't handle death. Well, it doesn't handles tragedy. Well, he's a fragile guy. So I he was fuck up today. I hope with us last, but I'm never happy bringing stores like that with people I like and Meyer. But that's what happened today in Hollywood. You'll never see the movie, but if you have a checking out remember what happened make your show? Somebody else is the run around with while. I was with Mickey back in the day is in the news too. And that would be Naomi Campbell now reported in my star magazine column, which comes out. Think that'd be tomorrow or. Yeah. Probably moral. She's been banging the kid from one direction Liam Payne, right? He's twenty five Naomi's forty eight. Which means he's fifty and they started flirting like in December January she snuck into his Instagram page. That's the new thing the new things you don't spot someone across the room slide into that DM's. And then after they started flirting which was kind of public next thing in other at the British Academy of film and television arts awards and they've seen a couple more times. She never comments about her love life. But I do know that when she first started running around with the kid she didn't like his clothes. She felt like he looked like an asshole. What the way he was dressing. Forget about the fact that she's twice as age. She wanted them to wear better stuff, and he doesn't have the right pace because he's been he's been getting dressed by stylus forever. So she spent ten grand on new threads philan-. So we looked better next to her. Whenever they get packed. You know, and I guess you figure they're going to be out of few more times. And she doesn't wanna stand next to a guy who still wears, you know, still talk shirts, whatever the fuck, but she ten grand down and bought him some good shit. Hey, that's a great chick. That's also also on the touch on this Tom Arnold is bullshit. And again, he's telling another tantalizing y. That has to do with this college admission scandal couple of weeks ago, he put this on this on Twitter yesterday. But he said couplings ago, I got into it with for the tenth time with a hash to college cheating scandal dad at a big party. Basically, he went to Steve Tisch is seventieth birthday party at the Hollywood palladium and he went jaw jaw with mossy. Mo- Gini Laurie Lachlan's husband, the fashion designer who sells clothes for target. And you know, what I've heard those shirts. He sells for some reason. The cross dressers loved them. I heard I heard that he's made a fortune on shit that cross dresses where let's look into that. That's fascinating. Okay. Any apparently mossy mos- talking Tom, and he was basically saying shit about how agrees with Trump on some issues that people need to carry their weight. He's saying there are a lot of takers. And entitled people out there. Now, this is Tom just talking shit again because you always acting like he's on the spot Johnny on the spot. I'm not sure if that's true. But he did put it on Twitter and the papers picked it up. I don't know. But you know, it's kicking the answer though. The fact that like I said, you know, how do you think they feel that they and her husband paid a half a mil when they could have paid fifteen grand? It's unbelievable. But whatever happened to taking college administrators side and saying you don't wanna love this school. I I've always loved this school. I really love to spruce up the library, and like to give you a nice donation. What do you need? Can. I is there. Something all the computers up to ski. What can I do my husband, and I really wanted? 'cause next fall. If my daughter comes here, and we love her to come here. I'd like to feel proud something like that. Then you're half a million dollar check. Okay. That doesn't bother me. You wanna make the school better fine. Because then my kid can enjoy the better library down the road. But you just wanna lie about your kid being on the road team. Once you've never done shit with an or the fuck out of here. But I don't believe Tom. Because mossy MO is not a conservative. He may feel Trump's right on an issue or so, but mossy mo- Laurie Lachlan Felicity of been William H Macy on liberals. In fact, all the people rounded up so far are liberals. So once again, Tom Arnold is full of shit. I don't buy anything. He's saying as usual, and you know, some. Talk earlier. I don't want. I want to just go back to what I said about Cory Booker being that possible presidential candidate. And I don't not gonna throw politics down through give me one minute. He can't win. He's not gonna pass the primary as much as you guys are anybody out. There hates Trump hope could beat him in. Why forget Beto the fake Latino his biggest accomplishment is lost with all the Hollywood support. What issues are people going to run on to be Trump reparations fantasized the new green deal? What is it? What's going to be so important because I think all Trump's gotta do one point is go up and stand up and say on the only thing between you and the American voters becoming socialists. That's what I gotta do any wins. I mean, I know a lot of guys hate him. But cancel the Iran deal. Got us out of the fucking Paris accord, cut off funds universities that won't on a first amendment. There's a lot of things did that I'm really in favor of and then there are people think that Alex Andrea occasional quite is as soon as she's age might be might be a possibility to run for president this. Girl was making fashioned a year ago. And they still bomber was community organized. It would some panache style. But please Jesus Christ good luck handling all the keys to somebody. Who believes they can hang around till they're forty never get married. Doesn't want to have kids doesn't own a home. Basically doesn't have any experiences that make her understand how people who are conservative feel get it. But but again, what will Cory Booker or anybody push across infanticide is not a fifty percent issue Medicare for all is none of fifty percents. You reparations? No new green deal. No abolishing ice. No, anti-semitism open borders wealth tax, come on. And let me tell you some Joe Biden isn't going to endorse that agenda, and I think Biden is the only shot that they had to give Donald Trump run. I do because less when Trump beat Hillary. I sat there in the restaurant that drudge clean didn't own. But really made it his. His Smokehouse in Burbank, and I'm on the air doing a live show election night. And I got booed. I said, listen it's gonna get close but Trump's going to pull away at the end booed. I said let me take him. There is still too many people in this country. Who are Archie bunkers, and there are more Archie bunkers than there are meat heads. Meaning rob Reiner his his son-in-law. And I was right. And that's how Trump pulled it out. And I think in this capacity. There are more people that still love the last two hundred years of this country. Then they are ready to listen to Alexandra occasional call America garbage country. That's how I feel. Okay. I don't think that people are ready to just call it a day and go. Yeah. Let's give her a shot. And Lastly, I got a mention jussie smollet small small I watched him walking into court acting like fucking run things. You know, listen, some of the cast is supporting although I heard that not any of them wanted to sign a card for him. I heard some people in the hair and makeup the pun wanted nothing to do with this card. There's also a youtuber. I don't know why so many you to reserve black gay guys, and they talk all crazy. Let me spilled up tea. I don't know why why can't people just give you facts? Like I do. What are they gotta talk like that? For anyhow. I was listening to some crazy person on YouTube and somebody put it on the Facebook page some woman, I forget who she is her friend works in the makeup department, and she swearing up and down the marks on small. Let's face after the fake altercation was makeup. They put makeup on. And she said, they he shoved things in his cheeks to make them look smaller. I said come on. He went to a hospital. Don't you think the hospital will learn to pull the makeup office faces ridiculous? You got to be carefully stores. You believe let alone post, but don't believe him. It's insane. The most damning being about smollet is that he was willing to put two people in jail over his hopes man what he was informed by police that they had two suspects in custody. Discounts ready to testify against them when he found out the suspects. Whereas buddies that helped them pull off the stunt, suddenly he withdrew the offer to testify. It would have been great to cops may believe that if the consummate a fake lineup of bunch of white dudes wear red hats and call them suspects. I would love to seen who just pulled out of that line. They did not have been great. Empire empire the TV show. Everybody's nervous mall. Well, it's going to be taking listen em par starting out as an interesting show about a successful. Musician who finds out is gonna die. He's got to decide which one of his son should carry on his legacy. It's a great idea. It's very Shakespearian decent show. I love the first season Raji, be stolen and Terrence Howard was great. But to be honest after the first season it just went to shit. The breaking point was the was it the second. I of the second season they got cookie in a gorilla costume, and then they could Chris rock doing series acting as a tough guy in prison. Are you fucking kidding me? Chris rock being tough guy in prison. I couldn't stop laughing, and they only Campbell dating the youngest lion. Lucious lions youngest, son. She's terrible acting. And he's the worst of all lines that young kid empire was the kind of show that had the story lines of a really crazy and bizarre that it made you hang on for a while. But then they started stunt casting. And it's been just fucking ridiculous. And Finally, I missed Saturday Night Live. I don't know why my TV didn't record it. But I did catch clip on you to the Catholic church has a lot of balls for coming down on SNL. And especially Pete Davidson that skinny head about how little difference between the art Kelly story, and the Catholic church sex-abuse story, the fucking church put out a statement that went onto say the diocese strives every day to prevent sexual abuse by clergy from happening ever. Again. It concluded by calling the insensitively of writers producers in the cast of SNL, they call them alarming. Now, they're offended by sketches now. Now, they find it disgraceful. They're about forty or fifty years too late to be clutching their anal rosary beats said anal beads, but raise rose rubies. Probably know beats for a lot of cardinals pre. Let's face it. The church has tolerated this for fucking decades a century two. And now they're upset because somebody mentioned on TV listen, clean up your house. I replaced decades with centuries and maybe was spot on. I'm sorry. A decade did centuries. Take us look up ca Strada. Learn about the church buying young boys from poor families and cutting dick soft and keeping them singers for the pope. My message is live is this don't cave and do not apologize. They deserve those comments, and they deserve worse. Comments, churches, evil and Carney and no amount of financial political pressure should change should change people being able to openly condemn the ship behavior that Turks covered up for so long, destroying so many lives. Get out of you. Never apologize for the truth. Never speak the truth in it'll set you free sound trite. But it's so goddamn true. And like I said the day let's pull down temples, even if the temple falls down on top of us and finally story. I am most happy about all. I predicted this thrill the parents of eleven year old Desmond, Nepal as the so. Call drag hit known as Desmond is amazing. They've been investigated by thority just like we hoped for alleged child abuse. Okay. This little fucking kid dressed in drag dancing and his sexually suggested matter onstage at New York City gay bar called three dollar Bill. We member it how he was trotted out and pranced around took off his jacket. Men are howling in the audience. Michael Strahan's downsizing, the next greatest. It was discuss thing. Disgusting. And now this mothers crying the blues since the incident. Authorities have been asked by concerned citizens that will be us to investigate the family for abuse. So child protective services investigated, the family, the New York City administration of child services did the New York police department did child advocacy center the center for missing and exploited children, the department of labor the district attorney's office and these people don't fuck around. They make your life. Hell this is the end. This is only the. Beginning C, c for only yelling I do on this show should is getting done. Cape Bryan singer done. Louis Vitton stopped selling those t shirts they designed with Michael Jackson on the Michael Jackson's beat dazzled feet on the front. They're coming off the shelves. Drake womb? Sing the song. The Michael Jackson estate gave him in concert. You want done on Kelly's going away. Jussie sweats going down. Desmond is amazing. They're all going down. And the boy's mother said do you have claim the abuse allegations? Are unfounded bullshit bullshit. They're not unfounded at all. We've been under a microscope since early December. I never thought it'd have to breach my own privacy and confidentiality to provide proof that has been demanded of us out of malice. Shit head. We had unannounced visits in our home and all hours. Yeah. That's day. Go to the school to lady our family was probed. Listen, your son's going to be pro one day keep pressing him like that we were proud more intensely than any of the case before all Ella Gatien's are in founded in addition, we were investigated by the MVP, and she names all the offices. No abuse or maltreatment was found no regulations for child performance were broken. No legal activity has occurred. Yeah. But you're fucking up your kid lady. I'm AJ Benza. And that was Fame's bitch.

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Top 5 Best and Worst of the MCU - Movie Podcast

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Top 5 Best and Worst of the MCU - Movie Podcast

"The world is currently in chaos. But there's something we can always rely on arguing with our dumb friends about marble movies dumb. I was talking about you. I Like I like DC smart today. We're discussing which movies and the almost twenty five film franchise are the best in. Which Mickey Rourke that. What does that mean? What is you ain't get an Oscar late in life? Yeah Well House Phoenix rising that beautiful man or woman. Mickey Rourke I can't tell sometimes he couldn't help it. He was a boxer. A No. It's just like when he wears like juicy pants they can't help it. He's a boxer. This week's episode of film houses. It's possible by our sponsors shudder. The premium streaming video service super serving members with the best selection in Genre entertainment covering horror thrillers and the supernatural and. Mac Weldon the most comfortable underwear socks. Shirts undershirts hoodies and sweatpants. And more that you will ever wear will hear more from them later in the show. Today's episode is a Pretty Light Fund. One it's not topical in the news but I thought it would be just a fun time and a fun watch. I'm joined today by Ryan. Adam wounds and James High Ak Mickey Rourke Number One fan. I would say that number to compete for the three. I said before one of my greatest regrets is not buying that signed copy of Nessler to someone else by Mickey Rourke that I found music that one time that would have been cool for them. I was like Oh what do I need a signed? Wait a minute. I should've exactly bought a sign of Rick or whatever yeah so if you're someone right now. That is practising social distancing. You've got a lot of free time on your hands so why not go back and rewatch all the marvel movies? Mickey rourke movies also fly nine and a half weeks Copa Greenwood village. And I know Harley Davidson and the Marlboro Man. Everyone has very strong opinions on both. Mickey Rourke and marble movies clearly established. I think I am not to not to cut you off there but I think that only lane people have strong opinions on the more I think. Kill across across the Taiwan. I'm talking generally. We're all pretty lane and we think about things too much. I don't know I would say most people like them all. Most people think they're great and go. Oh cool new marvel movie. I think most people actually have a strong opinion in the earliest ones that they really like really don't like like we're about to talk about the people. Maybe we talked to about it. I think most people do not care as evidenced by most of the box offices of all of these including van. Oh when I thought where remarkable that are outside the the entertainment industry. I'll be like oh I'm going at twelve O one. Am to go see aunt man three and they're like oh. I didn't even know that was coming out. Maybe I'll see it and I'm like what I'm the guy who's driving by those online and going you already saw. It was called iron man and then peel out and I run into a telephone. I found it in tomorrow. I'm that cool guy where Dumbledore your brand of Things that you like doesn't match with my brand of things that I like. We should argue the more. I'll say this a lot of us did line pretty close in what we consider to be our top five best top worst except for one one. Rebel heart yeah. That's right right dead pool man. I don't play by the rules which I figured we talked about the best. I Save Save the worst notice. It's top five and I'm already seeing a six under Ryan's Bet I don't play by the rules man. I'm like deadpool. Wow Man can. Can we go back in time to twenty fifteen first? Deadpool came out never on social media is like I did pull to break the rules. I'm snarky and I talked to God. Did any of you have a tough choice to kill your darling? Sort of thing I I did I. I really wanted to put infinity war on my top. Six but I was like iron man. Three was so hilarious. I couldn't get up there a lot of these so I wasn't necessarily looking at other people's when it was going in but because we were all adding to the same dock and there are some parts glance over at someone's Ryan's and I here your reasoning. Which will be wrong. Well let's start with James. Adamant I because ours are all fairly close circle certain and then we'll mix up with right couple curve. Sales also mine isn't exactly the top five. It's like the top two where a lot of those movies sort of morph into one is And then it builds up to one or two other movies. Yeah and I've said this so many times when people were very tired hearing it. But it's not a bad thing. I'm also when I see things are best or worst. Whatever it's not being like I hate it but a lot of these movies are like watching television. It's like watching a really expensive episode. Game of thrones of you know but it's it's on that level. I hated ironman too. I can say that. Sorry all right. That's not brave. Just Jack Armand's who gets better the more you watch it now that you have all these other games we can just jump right into it but our man to would be better if they just called it avengers Prequel point five. Yeah right here at any yeah vendors. Start with my with my fifth and try. Which was Captain America's civil war? Your I hate. You can't be number one third entry James had it is his second century. Us Now I didn't place US higher just because I felt like there was some that superseded it but I do think it's in terms of the The the sort of team big team up movies. It's one of the best ones right. I want to hear why Ryan and put it on his list. Include it all all right so when I'm looking at my favorite moral movies you'll see a theme in mind. I like the funny ones. Okay I like the I'm not A. I don't really care about marvel movies but if I go I wanna I wanNA laugh. All of mine are funny. Hold on wait. Doesn't civil war. Have Garry shandling in it garrison. Piece little war the civil war but they go out of their way to make you know this. Seventies kind of political thriller. You know kind of movie the roost others is really well made. But it's just there's you know it's it's more serious than the others and I do think that the end is pretty awesome The last fight and stuff top five awesome. Yeah actually no. I was thinking of winter soldier when I go but still You know this is kind of just snowballing off when our soldiers is pretty similar. But I didn't laugh laugh. That's the main thing cooks. That was my thing. 'cause I know I loved winter soldier to but for me the it did seem like Internal everything's air all everyone's fighting on the inside Hydros all bad like they're they're all along and stuff and I was like Some of that stuff is tiring the more I watch it again and again when you my big thing might be. Criticism of most marvel. Movies is that their strategy is take a hero control c control V invert colors. That's your bad guy. So that's one of the things I love about civil war is. It's not at all like yeah. It's friends fighting friends. Friends findings friends but visually to just from a pure visual standpoint. It's it's Black Panther captain. America Falcon Iron Man. All of these very different appearing characters. Though onscreen at a it feels very very different. You know it also. Of course the fight scene at the airport is like Holy Shit like that's when you realize the potential of what we've been waiting for of all of these movies you're like Oh my God and then for me also I came off Really Disappointing Atman. Because I thought that Paul ant man's on one of my worst movie I like yes. I didn't think man was funny. I thought Paul Rudd was underutilized. Al Qaeda you don't get humor or comedy out of big things becoming small small things becoming big. It's always funny. It never gets old continue. Well I was getting his ass Ryan's kind of a movie buff so I don't know if he has the script in his head and he seen a different version of ant man I love it. It looks like baby driver and it doesn't look like it was shot and then we bring it on. I felt like the limited time that you actually see and interact with ant man and civil war. They did him more justice to having Paul Rudd. Having Fun and the character doing fun stuff than the movie but I can see that I I will say if you were to ask me like top five. Best scenes of any marvel movie. I would put the civil war fight. Scene Y is one of the most memorable for sure what you're saying but overall took awhile to get there. I didn't laugh I I I'm okay with you. Yeah that's fine criticism. That's like you. You did. Well it's fun now. He's fairly brothers. Yeah I do like to that the so if I would ask you Ryan. What's a better movie age of Altron or civil war civil war age all its top bottom fog but there's no civil war Asia voltron think about it all Geez? This is just time as a flat circle bombing then as individual as actually if you because of the way these things play out if you actually were to cut age of all war into one movie be pretty good. It's got some fallout in their of like. Hey guys screwed up. Segovia you let that robot like almost blow up the planet with meteor. I don't know what his plan was. That is true. There is cool stuff at age altron Altron actually him becoming alternatives. Pretty Cool James spader no. I'm not trying to defend age of alternate. I'm just saying much like to at least argument. Amanda if I am Man Sucks but man. He's great and civil war. Age of ultrasound sucks but man that plot point and civil wars pretty cool how. It's in a dark time line now because like because all the stuff that preceded trae just. I just want to blow your mind blew. It is an interesting thing about this. When you get to. The point of having twenty five movies is that you can have a character. That's worse in their own movie than they are in other movies for. I think it's definitely a testament to well. It's cool. They have a movie and it's great that it made a billion dollars. Maybe it wasn't like maybe it wasn't necessary. I mean that's how I feel a lot about my word. I think my worst list is a lot of these characters that I actually genuinely enjoy. But that I don't think are good in their own movie. I think their own movies. The worst case of them took them a couple of movies to get to a good Solo film really and Another thing for me with civil war is that it always feels to me like more of an vendors movie than a Captain America movie. I think probably a lot of people would agree with that. So focused on the ensemble and when I go back and I tried to watch the vendors movie or age of altron. I get really really bored. This is the only one that I can rewatch without getting bored. Ruined the Marvel Movie Period. The only event you only like when I saw vengeance I mean excluding infinity war and and game but like it's the only one of those three that I sort of go back and I'm like oh I can watch this whole thing in nine feel like I don't care about this and this feels really slow for the first thirty minutes you guys remember the marketing campaign for like civil war. Pick pick your side which side and people listening on twitter. Ruben like scarlet witch. And then. Well that was our poster but yes but like the. You could tweet out. Like which team are you team? Ironman or team captain America And I was like I mean. I'm the Good Guy Captain America and there are so many people team out here and man. You should sell out your privacy. The government should all of your rights. This is I remember the marketing campaign. I think you always forget. It is a captain America. Movie it's Captain America. Three the third one where you go. Oh I forgot about that because it's an unsolvable movie and I remember the marketing campaign being a trailer and twitter. That here's our movie. I was like Holy Shit. There's a Black Panther Spiderman and moving them. I guess pretty cool because go see a billion dollars a great and it's like I. Yeah it is a better avengers movie then the two of injured movies before it which is crazy because it has a darker tone because I think Joe Sweden R. Marvel well when vendors the vendors get together thors there everyone's happy revenue good time and they're like well if we do so voice and be sad. It didn't make my top five but I do think ev- injures I ventures the second. Half of that movie is really great. It was a feature on my top five. I mean it appears as though at least and I are the only ones who don't have it. You both do. Have it on your top five? But I think it's close. The only problem is I think it's this situation. The Russo brothers got to make they got to make a couple movie they got to make a movie and then they got to make a practice avengers and then they got to make two full blown avengers just weeden jumped to his first step into the marvel. Universe was with this avengers thing and I think wrapping your head around all of that. You're watching for me. You're watching that happen in the first half of the movie and it isn't until you get to the second half off of this. I disagree. I thought the vendors like the perfect of injures movie we got you like the beginning where Nick Fury is drafting and in. Hawkeye is bad guy. He thinks some setup Ryan is number five of six and Adam. You put your number five. Yeah I think because I think people don't like nostalgia for it which has weird as that sounds because it's I guess ten years old now but it's set like I think it's an important building block to this insane ecosystem that they've created this this machine. That cannot be stopped. It's funny oh I it again. I'm not saying it's bad. I wouldn't have it anywhere close to my bad list is definitely on the in the top top of the list. Go but I maybe. This is more of a testament to how bad ironman two is where ironman too is completely devoted to getting people ready for avengers But when you sit down for ventures they're still like Oh hold on we need to get you ready for this and I'm like what the fuck was what the bug was on the same question. It was time at time killer. No but I'm I'm with you right like I think if you adventures actually one of those movies where if I catch it from the beginning I might just sit and watch this whole thing because they just keep moving. It moves really well. It moves like Ajayi. We didn't tell us a great filmmaker only feel that way if I catch it after the first forty five minutes I think like if I catch it around the time. They're fighting in the woods or maybe even just a little bit after that. Then I'll watch all through to the end if if a vendor's comes on TV and it's Nick Fury driving away from the collapsing bunker. I'm gone into citing moments but I don't care about it but Scott everything. It's like shield headquarters. Oh my God. We're seeing more of shield now. Nick fears looking. It's the tesseract Luque's back and now Hong Kong is part of who kidnapping them all. It's all building up to this moment. I get kicked name. What I think is important about them. Laughter of vendors in my opinion nuke fury Hawkeye Loki. All of these characters I think endeared themselves to the audience After avengers we'll sure through avengers. Hawkeye was guy who hung out at her. He's a guy who was like in the shadows shooting in one and local away from bumfights. It was just the kind of lane villain from four which was also not a great movie and so like that's what was like the building blocks. Yeah the vendors. So that's why I don't care about the first half of that movie another movie. That did the ensemble thing. But it didn't a different way than vendors where it just presented the entire ensemble to us with its debut. Movie The three Three of US had this on our list. me at number four James Number. Three and Ryan and number two is guardians of the galaxy. I one James Gone killed which I did not expect that. I would so into gardens the galaxy. I think the way that music as a you know he copied baby driver. He's having to build the whole thing around music. Okay I'm just kidding. But but the way that like he used star Lord's time and in his him being stuck personally influenced by the time period he lived in to influence the world of variants of Silk Time period. James Gunn is stuck. It's I think it's one of the funnier. Our own of the marvel movies it gets. It gets the comedy right and it doesn't fall. Flat like drax is one of the funniest characters rockets. A great character like it also had a huge impact on the later of injure movies. Yeah like them. Being part of that is exciting because it they just did a really smart building block. I wanted to add it to my lesson. I don't think I kinda see both movies as one in a weird way that makes sense luckily one into yeah kind of just like they just feel like Very similar because they're just happening in their own world they're not touching the rest of me on my worst list. We'll talk with really continue interesting. Thought I always wants. I'm curious hate it for me. Guardians of the galaxy is so amazing. Yeah as it Comic Book Kid. Growing when you got into cosmic stuff I was like I'm out thank you know there's some great stories. Deterrent to you. It was like the idea of spe is all spacey's more compelling to see how things played out on Earth. I think so. It just felt earth felt more alive in a lot ways. The base always felt fast in empty. And that's not to criticize any of the stories that just my kind of perception of and what you're saying about the time period that James Gunn is stuck in. This is one of those movies that it's happened several times over the course of twenty five films where I'm like. I think I'm done with these. I think I'm done and then and then we'll come back. I'm back in guardians a galaxy completely. Pulled me back in and made the cosmic aspect of the Marvel universe. The most interesting for me because he turned it into like the eighties. Lifer like space is the your music and space is this sound and it was so different from the which I actually Kinda liked as to the the Very D- Saturated Real World Captain America. Iron Man World that we were kind of going into now's like Holy Shit. This is great and he set the tone for some of my favorite like aspects of the marvel. Cinematic universe going forward. Which is this high. Saturation dislike crazy wild characters and I yeah. I was blown away because when they said they to guardians of the galaxy. I went the one with the tree. You're doing that and I was. That was every blog post for about for about six months. I it Interact KHUDA. If I well. I guess Mojo can't do it all well and it was like a ended up being one of the best movies. Also also James Gunn and I was like the guy that made me watch ellen page and Rainn Wilson has sacked. One of them was having. Say's James Your Passion for it to me. This was like such a achievement because it's like It really embraced the absurdity of these movies like like no other movies. Did you know all these movies are insane when you think about the nuts and bolts of what you're watching within this movie just embrace that and it was like all right? We're GONNA throw this KUNA in the street and really embrace kind of the all met up just kind of like this is insane and we're gonNA treat it as such but And it was genuinely funny and the soundtrack was awesome. You like funny marvel movies. I've heard. Yeah that's my won't main criteria because I don't care either about these movies but I but when I see them I like like I like like you were saying like every time I say a new movie comes out. I'm like I don't give a shit about this new marvel movie but then somehow they've only back in. What are you going to say? Tell you what was it? That was at least talk. We look a lot of the humor aspects for me because there are a lot of marble moves that will see in the theater and in that theater experience. You know your pack theater. Everyone's laughing around you. You laugh to you. It's a it's a hype thing but then like when I watched him at home again like Oh either. Seamer isn't landing for me but guardians does is the exception where I'm like. Oh yeah this is all it. They nail he nails the humor in all the characters. It's not like you know them as much as Snow Captain America and you think they're all pretty new and he did such a good job of introducing everybody took two for the unsolvable of the vendors all those other movies but for Guardians. He's like now. There's just this rat crew. It's it's a weird thing too because on one hand almost nothing was at stake with the being involved with MCI but it also had the task of introducing fantasy. Not I mean grew beyond a post credits scene. Man Sitting in chair connective tissue. It's the sort of thing that I think. That's what you're right was quitting over where he's like. Listen you can do most of the anchorman movie. But at some point you need to mention captain. America's no I'm out kept kept in America. We finish the sentence he's like. Nah I'm here I'm British. And then he had his tea and he left and then with James. Galway like up in. Dana's whatever we'll figure it out not gonNA fight you I'll I'll make it work. I'm an easy going guy. Just don't read my tweets. I it's just it's a little. It's also the first time where they're like. Infinity Stone like they like straight up say infinity stone. Yeah the only I think. The only shortcoming of Guardians of the galaxy is that Ronin gets like running yes sick villain but not in that movie right way so much. What kind of a joke in the movie? He is funny. Great bad guy. Running talking about Hawkeye Ronin or Lee Pace Ronin Lee Pace Ronin views. I only know one running and I thought that Ronin would get a reprieve in Captain Marvel. That didn't happen and they should on them again. Yeah and it sucks. Because he is kind of. He's pretty cool and it sucks that they he isn't but I know that it's because this had thanos is looming kind of thing. The only thing that I would strike against guardians ago also the first trailer of a camp where it is not funny. Talk hiding it. But it's weird. They cut it like it's funny and the ruin they don't ruin the jokes for the final movie but the trail. I rarely that came out. I watched now like oh no like in less there in less. This editor doesn't know what humor is. This movie is going to be terrible. And then you watch all. Yeah he didn't the editor just doesn't know a comedic timing. It was strange another movie that brought us into the COSMAS. Was Thor Ragnarok. I had it as number one on my list. Adam had his number four. James is also number one Ryan did not acknowledge which is weird hearing how much you value. Yeah that is true. I I did appreciate this movie There's I will say I fell asleep which I think it does factor into this You Watch it at two. Am Have you watched it? 'cause I consider it the funniest movie in my opinion. It is the rutgers stuff it I know this is my fault. I just felt no. That's fine it if you haven't seen the movie yeah. At least it gives us unconventional character. Mashups like if you had told me ten years ago my favorite marvel movie would be one pairing hulk and I'd be like what are you. Have you ever read a World War Hulk Beta Ray? Bill shows up at one point. So the CIA. The chances of very practical effects in this. I remember like really gross gooey. Aliens and stuff. It's probably all CGI. Well this Chris. Hemsworth is real. This is someone took James Guns wacky cosmic universes starting point and then made a copy of a copy of it right and so we were like all right. Well we were looking at is the regular version of the wacky part of the cosmic universe. What we showed you the wacky version of the wacky part of the cosmic universe. But the amazing about this movie is how it dances between fantasy and sci fi so seamlessly like when it's when it's in these worlds. It's just a sci-fi completely like blade runner ask world and then a switchover and then Idris Elba's in a fantasy movie you know like Lord of the Rings Style and it's just I mean it's fucking great it it is also because it spaces like all right. You got three chances you sucked I two because I think those are movies are pretty terrible and half of it as good. I wonder if some cool stuff has redeemable things but I remember thinking like man. I love Ironman. What else you got. And then I saw captain America which does okay. I saw your door. There's so much fun. Texture in this movie to a play at the beginning where locals reenacting out like the glorious Like rise in and like just the texture of like the is it was his. Name's at Cronk. No crank cronk from the stone man. I mean you're thinking of Emperor's new groove. Yeah I believe. There's there's a lot of fun texture. This movie sets up Tessa Thompson. Who's an awesome character? It has a cool villain. I mean there's the principal Ragnarok itself but then Cate Blanchett is just amazing to watch all the Times Hotter Cate Blanchett or tests Thompson this. I'M GONNA go Kate Blanchett. She's in her body suit and she does her thing. See like Oh my hair and then it turns into spikes and also she's like eighty six years old. Syriac looking good and it's fun. We get fun hulk out of this but you also get pure hulk. Yeah let me get goofy. It's sort of like this is like a binge night of hulking before the next movie where there is no hulk you you get a you know a little bit of a hangover of Hawk and then no more hawk. Some people predicted way way back that whole couldn't handle his own movie and the best thing you can do is be param. Comedic within other Marvel character to that. Yeah that's a good prediction. Universal Studios Universal. Pictures has the right to the Hawk films. No I'm just saying Some people thought if they were going to do the whole Barrel Yeah. Some people write marvel wrote out entire plots for movies. That should have been ironman three but at and it had the whole dude is in then. It got downloaded. Yeah I think it's an incredible film that transcends being a Superhero. I love it so much He's the only problem though. Does it stand on its own? I think so. Yeah I think so at least mentioned the play one of the best things about it is. It's a direct sequel authority And I don't know I saw two months. Here's my story about watching we. Should we get into it and I think we have time unfortunately wash? I'll talk more about thor to when we get to our worst list when you say it for extra. I just love that Thor Ragnarok has seen in it with a play that summarizes the events of torture because they know we talked about winter soldier. A little bit adamant I have it in our number two spots games. I was surprised you didn't include it. I put a civil war in there as my as my winter soldier placeholder to different movies to me and is winter soldiers. Cool equal spy thriller And for me it was what was exceptional was. I didn't really liked the first captain. America like I do love that movie a lot and I. I love that. It's a different time period. The Castle and Tommy Lee Jones was bad. But I like the second movie of of the Captain. America franchise is nothing like the first I thought was pretty awesome. Feat is also what that's the beginning of the Russo brothers Reign of terror right. That's took over and they're like. Hey let's let's make fun kind of redeeming in my mind. kept America. It was like kind of lay it like I move okay a lot. I think he's a good character. I think the movies not the best. I think they're they're got some growing pains and then he's dressed like an ass in avengers fucking hate that. He's still good. Mike Mike Damn. They're they're so powering. Through the castings fantastic and I think the writings good like they're going to. They're going to do it then. Winter soldier comes out and I guess they nailed everything. It's the best suit in my opinion that black one that he wears in the beginning And then it's a it's a good use of his character. And then what happens you lose? A bad was that they ruined suit again in avengers two and then they fix it again. Yeah that's true I it has asthma. Anyway that's one of the things about America is he has no arc. Yeah he is. He is a straight stick. That was put it up and he just fell over points at one direction as only does good. He is true. Good Yeah but I do love I mean I love cats America being a man of time. That can't reconcile that and then also like loss love Eddie level. That's the only problem when I always wonder like if any this underlying racism when he he just. He did it more adventures when he goes. Things aren't as good as they used to be. What does that what do you? What do you mean cell phones tracking you? And he's like okay. They had more fun with it and winter soldier. When he's like. Oh Nirvana write that down. Okay and then you know you see that. He's not a racist. I'm such a sucker for underdogs to when he's like little scrawny captain Like pre pre transformation. It gets me in the guy. Can you fall in the agent? Carter Part I. I'm one of the people. I think that was happy that they got together. I mean the fact that she was like come soldier. I have no sexual interest nuclear skinny boy. And then he gets all buffs. We'll keep it professional system along the natural reaction. They made it happen in endgame we three of US Not Ryan of course at Infinity War on our lists and then James you had endgame seventh remember I think infinity war. I the reason I choose over on game is to me. It feels like the more comprehensive movie like film turnhout tells the story and game is an amazing feat now vendors Infinity Warren game was supposed to be one movie I mean. Do we count that as two movies instead of bill. One and throw another best of on their say I feel like it's the same I put it to because technically it's what six hours or something of movie counts as two movies. They made it announcement. Hey we're actually going to split this into two. Then I know he was the one that was infinity war part one and part two. That's three nine is gonNA be recalling infinity war part one and part then. They changed that. We're GONNA don't think there's any way they ever planned to do that as one movie. I think they are. They they will that. We're all started writing it. Maybe according to Ryan just one fantasy I think invented yours the better more reliable movie and it does have that empire strikes back vibe. At the end endgame has the best build up of all time of any marvel movie. Which is the big giant battle. That's twenty minutes years. You're like thank you via affects people for all you have given us to think for me about about endgame War is like the two towers and end game is like the return of the eleven turn twin but And so I think that. But my the coolest thing for me is how endgame managed to be a retrospective on the marvel franchise going back in time in hitting on those different moments. Yeah just like your problem. With the first avenger it takes a long time to get. That movie has an hour hour. You need that brings with. It takes a long time to get to that action setpiece. Yeah it's in the aftermath of the most major thing which again going back to the man to comparison ironman too is a wet fart and then it goes and now let's pick up the pieces in avengers which I'm like. No you can only do that if it ends like infinity. War Infinity War. I'm like Oh yeah. We need to figure out what what is the world. Look after all. This time is justified. Open it with an action piece which feels hollow which is supposed to do Because it's like. Hey We kill the bad guy. Oh yeah well time to go back home where there's just the world looks dead. Everyone's upset as as me. The audience watching I was like I was like. Oh Shit like what the fuck is going on like? I mean I didn't know that time travel was going to be a part of it and say what you will about using time travel for stuff that now we have. A giant can of worms opened up upon the marvel cinematic universe. Yeah I was just like I was like. Oh fuck this. What is the pacing of this movie? Like just all over. The Place de inventory gives us more constant. I think I've watched that one more than the higher. It's I made that decision. It's just yeah you can't have one or the other either and but yeah I got the ending of Endgame Assocham. Good the the beginning that they spent way too much time like sulking on dead earth like where they're just kind of like everyone was sad and I get like you're saying look. We had to go check in on with all these old but it did not need to be an hour. I think in hindsight it's like thirty minutes old. Feels like an hour to check in on all the characters. I didn't mind it. It's okay with you. Yeah I think you would have haircut. I think it would have felt Russia. Otherwise but no. I think that's the problem is people will you will watch it. You Watch. Infinity were from beginning to end and then game fast forward to the end and watch the big fight. That's that's yeah my feeling anyway. But it's all the build up to captain. America's scene is proud got probably history is like the greatest superhero buildup of all time. I I don't know if you've ever top again. It hasn't been since like Lord of the rings that I felt that culmination of like emotion and stuff like haven't felt like. Oh my God. This is a pay off. This is a payoff that no media can ever achieve again but but yeah but it's also yeah. I know we're document Vinnie. All right but like anyway. Yeah sorry sorry at least I got off. We talk about them in conjunction with the game on their anyways. Yeah that's fine is that they work in concert together. I I really do like endgame. Issues is feel like Anthony. Better film but I agree. I agree but I'm still gonNA enjoy both of them on for. This doesn't have ronin which one good wine Jeremy Renner in it remember. Yeah Oh they do yeah. They mentioned there. He's under house arrest. You can least check in on you. Call him more skirted bitch. I think we've covered kind of the ones I james and Adam and I share so now it's time to get into Ryan completely different episode of our Infinity Ward. So Ryan you had ironman. Three is number six shane black's. In meandering I love that movie. Why William why do you hate it so much? It's on your number. It's his number one. Worst in my number two were the best. I hate it because they did. The thing that the ironman cartoon did which is about board of its head. What if iron manages remote controlled his robot instead of getting in the suit so there were remote control was was your main doubt was that that summed it up for me when when he drove in front of the truck and a button to a bunch of pieces and he's literally on a yacht close. There's nothing at stake okay. But what about the people that are playing? I don't know who they are on care. I felt that I agree with Adam that watching three. I felt like nothing was at stake. Nothing in the world like an again network. We're relationship with that little kid who little kids name. I don't yeah little while but it was like it. Felt like nothing was at stake for the course of the whole movie. I think it's I think Shane Black's cool. He makes great movies but this they should have given him like a guardians if they want it because this feels its iron man who feels like. He's the spinal cord of this whole thing except that he's like well. I'm not GonNa make the brain stem. I'm going to make this other part like this should have been like the the off World Adventures of iron man and I would have been more fine with it. Felt like it didn't add anything to the to the building cinematic universe. I felt like it made him seem like a worse ironman because he doesn't have he's barely in the suit for the whole fucking movie paltrow's into suit more than he is I like all these things. Why do I like the part when he was floating around with rocket boots and a handgun that to me? Doesn't you don't build up to that? I don't remember any I think guys. Diana is hilarious. If you go back and watch it Probably laughed more than I enjoyed anything but like Guy Guy. Pearce is the exact same character only worse as Sam Rockwell in our man to he's just a less entertaining version of Ham. Or whatever. You like it okay. So this movie is like the of all the movies them see. This is like the troll movie right. Same black I feel like who is such a weird director maker of lethal weapon last action hero installing that and and he made he he pulls the rug from all your expectations. He does you know it's basically a buddy movie with him in this little kid for most of the movie and he's not in the suit which I thought was cool after the disappointment of ironman too and then the whole mandatory thing or what is Mandarin. You know how I love the idea of you had this villain you build them up as the villain of your movie. Oh and then at the end. He's an actor. Like I thought that whole thing was awesome. Like I just hadn't seen in a film before like that you're villain is not the real villain in the way the way that you think. He is. And Yeah like a good action. Pulled the rug on your expectations. You're allowed to like it. I agree with those points. I think the problem is when it's a piece of the Pie. It'd be like if you order and it's pepperoni everywhere. And then one has a Brownie on it. Now why is there fucking one slice of bread? Judge these movies based on how they fit into the ultimate puzzle of the emcee. But you gotTa Judge. Each as the fun time that you had watching it. I didn't have fun. I didn't the more angry than I was enjoying myself. You guys obviously like Super Comic Book Peanut. Anything before I go sit down. I'm like I don't know who these people are as. I'm pretty sure the What's the mandarin character? Was it like a racist like Chinese stereotype or something so I I don't. I'm not the one going out. Know How could they not because he's Fu Manchu right or is are these the dragon character? I don't know it's all based on common is based on comics that I I'm sort interested in. Yes right and I've read a comic book here and there but I'm like they ruined it because like I read most of the civil war comics and I read the Infinity Gauntlet run and everything you just said you sat down and you said that he had a remote control on the vest I thought that was a cooling dessange. Harken back to when I was a kid and I don't know much about Iran an iron man Saturday morning cartoon I watched in most of the time he was remote controlling robots I was stupid and from then on unless he's in a marvel versus Capcom game. I don't care about iron man. He sucks the war-machine and he's better. Anyway who cares we just when you're when you're coming up with your premise? And someone in the room says Moore Pepper Potts and starts clapping and saying yes and then they go. What if pepper potts was iron man and then every what's what's Robert? Downey junior during the during the sequence being the kid in their laughing clapping James. We should appreciate Robert. Downey junior when we had them because he does and we have to deal with that and spider man far from home. Which is the third best. Movie ON RYAN'S LISTS. Y'All see this one. Did I really liked it but this is more on my enjoyments the cheesecake you have after the meal. Okay would say this is a great like John Hughes Esq summer road trip or yeah summer vacation kind of a film and a Spiderman movie second which is what I liked about. It was that it was just a fun. High School kids being high school kids on vacation and one of them happens to be Spiderman. I thought that was a cool Concept for a film. I thought it was cool. It's not in the movie Trailer ended films so many things and putting CG on remember it. I I agree I liked this movie too but again I like things I do like them like. We've mentioned in concert with the Grand Design. And but him going on a road trip through Europe a place that's relatively been untouched by the marvel. Cinematic Universe thus far seems to be very smart but very much in character because you can't do a spiderman swinging around New York City anymore. There's we already know that there's more equipped things to handle those situations so putting him somewhere else was. I thought a great decision. I thought Jake Jillian Hall great casting in the kind of the iron man read area to like. He's not the real villains better. I me- I argue the much. Better right my only criticism because I always thought Jay Jalen Hall would have been great like ten years ago. Fifteen years ago would have been an amazing Peter Parker and Spider Man. Because we got. We got What's his face by Toby. Maguire who is a really great Peter Parker and a terrible spider man. Andrew Garfield and Andrew Garfield who is an okay Spiderman in terrible Peter? Parker I thought Jay Jalen Hall could have been both been the perfect one anytime hollins. Great you know Sam. Raimi thought that too when Togo broke his back like well getting this guy that looks like him but Mister music my only my only real honestly my only real criticism of this movie is the ministerial reveal is too I mean. I guess if you don't read any comics like maybe I had no idea if you've ever heard of Spiderman before you know mysteriously was one of his greatest nemesis is nemeses. Msi resign and I thought maybe could have been a better way to hide that. Reveal where they just make him their sons of other characters that they could have said he was a throwaway comic book. Character from the from. The Spider Man Marvel Universe. That you just sage Jilin hoses character and then no not only is he not that character. He is mysterious. And you'd be like Oh shit because there was a bunch of marketing material. That movie that was talking about mysterious He's going to be a bad no. He's good now in a movie. Never convinced me otherwise number. One was a curveball. Adam told me to take off. Deadpool had them why it's the best. It's the best Well part of the MC at least sent the email and I read it. It said the three letters. Cu Yeah which are marvel movies made by Marvel Studios Not Fox searchlight or it was only by the rules. Adam I I know knows your number one. I do this movie rocks alright. Dead Pay rocks is an awesome movie. Like Fun Yeah. Funds and eight hard core the the the violence is bad ass. You know like it's super violent super R. rated which all Marvel News berated the be all better for it you know okay and just get away with more and they did. And it's it's freaking good opinion but I enjoyed deadpool. Two more dead joke about the team that he forms and then what happens to them. Tickles my funny. So that was a great scene. Yeah in sequence. I think it has good moments I'm looking forward to deadpool being put it being somewhat castrated. Like I'd actually like to see only because don't take this wrong. Okay I think when you make a rated R. movie if you're doing it for art's sake. I think you get some get a parasite type movie or something where it's like. Okay you you have more adult themes when we can say all the POOP JOKES WE WANT. We can show all the blood. Deadpool lenses off to the violence and I think that's why gets a radar great. But if it's just going to say more fucks I I don't think that's GonNa make it but I I in general I agree with you but it is true to the character though. He is an immature asshole. You know that breaks fourth wall so I think it's kind of like this needs to be more fox more poop jokes and all that a suggestion. I saw on read it. We're all the best ideas. Come from actually agreed with this. One besides James's I remain three script than those downloaded into oblivion Someone said that it would actually be really funny if one day put into the MC you and he's constantly getting bleeped and he's aware of it is like what the hell is going on and they're going to do that and then it's not going to turn out great. Why did they do that and be like well? It sounded good on paper. I Dunno I think whatever they do they'll pull it arthur adversity ability you have deadpool in the actual mc you like all its it opens up too big of a can of worms. You know like well. No they have to find a way of introducing X. men which is dead polls going to be the entry point. Because we're reboot bottomline. Knowing expected to get a good deadpool movie like everyone had abandoned that being positive last mostly Fox. They pull his thing and that's why they made him the way. He was in Origins Wolverine is like. No one likes the Shell to scream. 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List my worst one or somewhere so my number five vendors age of altron stocks new sacks. We talked to those moments weird. 'cause he has moments. I think that's I didn't include on my bottom five because like I. James spader is a great old troy Altron Kinda cool. When he isn't too close to the camera there. It has hold buster like almost I feel like the action is well paced a little bit more. I always liked how the movie opens with. A COMIC-BOOK SPLASH page of them. All jumping through the woods to grover. Yeah quicksilver does have quicksilver. Oh Yeah I don't know if he adds anything to the movie you carry on. Will he be back for one division tune in? He's GonNa be Evan Peters this is so slow yeah it's it's a long build up just to see the hulk iron man which is the best part of the movie I I know here it. Does it builds up thor ragnarok which is good but because Hawk flies away we all forget that happens is because he's like me can't pound me breaker in half so like that's that's messed up but Ryan did you know the original. Jocelyn idea that they they said no to what so you know the scene where They're trying to like stall altron. Because you know they're just he's has drawn project that little like hammer thing that gives. Having the thing falls there's a part where Jocelyn originally wrote it where he's beating up on iron man and he's almost kills him and he's like he's GonNa die and then like punches and it's Bruce Banner Goes Oh shady hawks out and they beat the shit out. He was like there to distract them and other than cool well. They said we'll know hulk needs to get in shape. Flyway sad that doesn't work and Joscelyn's down with this shit. I'm GonNa go make a good movie. Who Justice League Adam and I were brave enough to put on our list with captain. Marvel thank you. Oh Yeah I would. Yeah that's that's definitely there. That both wrote that down there in my like 'cause you forgot it existed. I did. It's wondering one of Ryan's favorites because at the end of Spiderman far from home does were scrolls remember that. He stood up and he clapped. This is one of those guys leave movie. I haven't seen the MC you so so the so the scroll reveal at the Spiderman did what to you you laugh. You're asleep. I get confused in the infinity. War whatever when Captain Marvel Saves the day and I'm like well. I guess she can do anything. I wasn't sure walking time. Explain that there's lots of problems all around the universe that are apparently univer scale. Problem sees the so bad aspects. She doesn't have a schedule like she couldn't be there ten minutes earlier. Now it is weird where she is like. She's like she only can go six. She can blast beams out of her legs and go anywhere but only at sixty five miles per hour. Now I don't you're probably wondering where she got her powers from. It was from a jet engine question. It's not great. It made a billion dollars. So what the hell do I know? Okay we good no. It's real unfortunate because I do think that the back lot like the treatment of Larson is unjustified. It's it's pretty Shitty She's just acting and playing a character But yeah this movie's Dank be not the good day like Oh. This room is dank smell or something. Yeah Yeah squally around the time as iron man to go. There's still working out the kinks. Oh weird that. This real rushed better as like this movie had twenty predecessors showing how to make a move she ended up also not being super important. 'cause they they sort of they do the the ending of Infinity War. Like Oh my God Nick Fury the lasted before he disappeared as call Captain Marvel. She's GonNa Change everything just shows about got other stuff to do and then she shows up again and then thanos through ingenuity puncture harder or something. What does he do? He does something he he fools her and he beats her slot now. Working Ben Mandelson's always joy to watch but loveth with they have a song that is from the wrong time period movie that is all set the time period. Which one was it like? What is it just a girl or at the end of the when she like is like destroying soften? It's like okay because you Song that had girl except you've also established what year it is and that song is an out yet. The movie takes place in the nineties. Yeah I think. They established what year in the nineties. And just a girl so it's not out yet but okay doesn't exist didn't do enough research and and it's not like it's playing dia genetically in the film but he just you. You scraped the bottom of the barrel to find another movie that didn't seem to learn from its predecessors we touched on this Ryan delight this was ant man or both of them. I mean in in the loss by though it was unbalanced better. The only problem with 'em and the loss is it shouldn't have come out right after infinity. I was like I was like give me more of that near like three weeks. Before the events of infinity war things are boring. In normal Laurence Fishburne. I didn't hate man I just. It just felt like I felt like work. It's a middle of the road. Marvel movie walk. These movies should be here to showcase why you wanna see them and other things but I feel like and this is most of my worst list is the movies I have made me never want to watch these again and only see them as supporting characters and other places so I feel like we mentioned earlier. I think ant man is significantly less entertaining than he is in other movie and basically all the other movies. He's way funnier and charismatic. And Cool And he has more of a purpose. I still. It's still unclear to me why he's an man. He watched the movie which is his origin story. And I still don't know why he's ant man. I remember most of the movies accident. Right well yeah but that's what it seems like even that even though there like you treat your train answers like it's hard like Michael. Douglas has like a newspaper article in like this is the guy and I want. It does other than the news but it doesn't say anything about why he's the perfect guy to be an aunt suit. Nothing about it. I think the thought was. It's because he's expendable. I'm almost positive that was originally was like I don't care. If he goes to the criminal I know conceal stuff and you could literally at it. Doesn't it doesn't really pay him off? As the hero name should be naming named one other person could use his daughter name. Juan who then uses that being said I give ant man both one and two credit because he is like the for the you know ousted the dad who isn't there And his ex wife has moved on and start a new family but the new dad there is great. He and everyone loves them. And it's a very against type play for that. They could have really just done the most basic thing and so I always loved his relationship with his ex wife's new husband. Because it's really good. I still would've loved to see all of that. I just want to be in that alternate reality where the Edgar Edgar right made. It just did whatever he wanted. Yeah just that's all that's all Stephen in that. I see a movie for that because they just moved ahead and did what they could with what they have in like. It sucks that it constantly reminds you what could have been like. I still want to see an aggregate Superhero Movies. Just to see what he does with it. Every one of my Ones on my worst is like a What could have been kind of situation? Or it's just like it was fucked by their own ex my own personal expectations of what I wanted them to be like Yeah Guardians of the Galaxy. I loved Guardians. One so much that I that number two appointment a you guys like to a lot. I didn't like it a lot. I did think that with how much I loved Guardians One. I would love guardians to a lot more but I kind of watched it and then then then that was it I I watched it again and I was like. Oh No. I really liked the opening dopamine. Kurt Russell. I can't believe they figured out how to make a planet a character and Kurt. Russell was really ask Chris Pratt. Dad also got four syllables for you. Sell faster alone makes cameo but there was a lot in that movie that he didn't care about. I also wasn't crazy about how the very beginning. Let's split up and I'm like Exactly that sucked and and It certainly wasn't as funny as the others. And also it kind of was one of those where you you see how it's made like like the first one was such a surprise whereas the second one like the second that every time a new pop song would start and then there would be an action sequence. I'm like okay. We've done this several times. And and I think he's trying to get a lot of mileage out of these seventies pop songs which I it's not really earned like in the first one interesting now. You're I know at least it's going to say it's at least loves this movie because its has one of the best setups of all time and it's going to one of the greatest payoffs take it away at least no. It's the Michael Rooker at a morlock. Oh what are we going to meet him? He they show him remember. The woman WHO's not till's wouldn't yeah people and behold my greatest achievement in. It's a test tube because his name will be at them and then the one guy era class guys morlocks. Like you sucks. He's GonNa make them cool like seven movies ago at this point here like this is what they did with. Though they shouldn't or getting getting rid of the famous guy I liked Mantis Mantis alive. I thought she was a fun. Like foil setup with drafts and that that was a fun pairing I thought Michael Rooker as cheesy as it is the emotional payoff of him with star. Lord I do really is a very touching moment. No not really like like to me. He was kind of a supporting character in that first one and he's good but then to make him such a crucial important part of the in the second one but make him retroactively important. Kind of didn't work for me. Michael Ruggerio Michael Rooker whose characters name is also a thing in the comedy because he played marvel puzzle. Characters are important. Okay Gotcha. Comic Book covers ugly. We've talked about the The thor the first tooth doors a little bit snoozefest Especially dark world. Which I think. Oh my God I dark. World is the worst. It's probably the worst out of all of them. It's really terrible. When the theater you go to for some reason it didn't have subtitles. Baked in and so when the dark elsewhere talking. You're just kind of picking it up. I guess what were you pirating this movie? Now we went to the theater like it was a digital. It was like one of the new digital projectors where. I guess they could do it in different languages and it just didn't do any subtitles for when it was supposed to like seventy two movies. It was that apes movie when I was like a for for a long time. It was like it wasn't. I watched it on DVD or streaming. That was like they had so we got this digital digital rented or something And it was the same thing though for the elves. You had to turn on the captions or something like that. It wasn't just in the movie but we didn't realize which is a really bad side when there's a sequel seen happening between the villains and they're talking to each other and you're like I think I'm supposed to understand why but I need. He wasn't until I was like I was like what the fuck is happening. That I rewound it and I saw you had to turn like in the options. Turn and then it captioned them and I was like this is important. The fact that continued on scary thing on this movie is terrible. It's garbage. They also replaced one of the actors. One of his best no noticed and then they killed off the other two thorax and rock and no one noticed those people. Yup No one cared It made Natalie Portman way too important to the franchise like everything seemed like a big coincidence. Which is something I hate like. I know you have to draw out your hero. But everything involving her was a big coincidence No idea who the villainous I know. He's a dark Elf. He was no idea anything other than that. And then you got the Red Jam. It also sucks because they teamed up looking in. Thor and they were really charismatic together. But it's it's like this thing that's covered in dark sand cloud but they're also like who are going to not not good good. Nothing good about it anyway. I think that's fair to say that I'm sure GONNA get some flack for because it was an academy award nominee Was Black Panther. I who else had that honestly. I think it's one of the weaker marvel movies which is a shame because it has a lot that I really like in it like Suri I really like and I like the villain mongers. Great used great. But that's that's my biggest criticism. Black Panther everything other than Black Panther was really cool. Everything Jilib Bassett was great in that movie. The got the big lip there and every single scene that to Challah was in. He was the most boring part of that whole scene. 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He was in my opinion briefly in there though but but when I saw it. I'm just kind of like exactly what you're saying. I'm like I found myself an hour in kind of like I. I don't really Black Panther. The character isn't that cool. Everyone everything else is a little cooler. But I don't really care what's going on. I also. Yeah why like like. It was like one of those. I'm checking my watch too many times during the movie. I'm going. Wow this kind of sucks. I don't really have any other more important. Criticisms other than that. It was not fun. But it's weird though because the production design of actions strayed off the promise of super cool invisible place. It was a thing is something I feel like. I hadn't seen before all net university the CJ was really murky the when it was just people with spears fighting each other like in that When they go to Hong Kong or whatever there's South Korea think they thought they were chasing Andy Circus through Hong Kong. Might be right but when they're doing. That cool is soon as it's to rubber rubber Black Panthers Bang against each other. It looks terrible. the sat score the soundtrack is awesome Great Soundtrack but then I was watching the movie and I was like. I don't know I think he'll monger kinda earned it right like he followed all the rules and he beat the guy and he did it and then it just people were like but you know he's the one that he's named after him and I was like I don't know who's going to go unleash the I mean the guy but he's following your rules you point. He's also way cooler and wayward charismatic. So this E. G. I don't I. It's not great but also the now that the stories are out and it's at that they were under a time crunch. It's like that movie had another year. Cgi probably would have been really good but those are the weekend the weaker parts of the movie. Definitely that big. Yeah I mean they. They put it on a calendar. And there's so many moving pieces like we'll have to get done because then it comes up before infinity war and like it's just like a traffic jam one person who has the brake lights and then everything's closed. Three Black Panther wanted me to believe that forest whitaker looked like that in the nineties. Forest whittaker has looked like forest whittaker for the last fifty years you can't recast forest whittaker some young Guy Be like this force would have looked in the ninety s grandma targeting whitaker. No they just put forth with if they just put forest whittaker in there and had him stand on his knees or something very blown away. Or other yeah. Hard cuts the footage from cry again. It looks like a scene from What is the last star? Wars movie the skywalker. Where it's like it's like I don't know about this Black Panther business I man. I think you can't be with her. You're right James you in Ryan again. Find yourselves at odds because you doctor. Strange is one of your worse Ryan headed. It's one of his best conspiracy. Why for the same reason for the same reasons? Black Panther ant man. I thought he was one of the worst parts of that movie. What also what? His Hebrew whatsoever hurt his hand and then he got. He's a surgeon who hurt his hand. Yeah he's like I can't do surgery anymore. I need to go get in life. Don't so he goes. He goes to get who wizard enlightenment with the hopes of fixing his hand and it turns out that he's just naturally attuned to doing magic doesn't make none of it. They just tell you every actually he had to work hard to get on any break his hands in a bad car wreck on necessarily driving like that whole scene is he talking about. Maybe like it because it's a comedy that whole scene where he's driving his Lamborghini through the through the mountains of New York City or taking turned thousand miles an hour and his phone rings. I get this pizza. Poppers already opened it up like one beat away from Naked Gun. Crashes and he goes in my hand in hand shatter to be. It's like such a joke. The only the only redeeming thing about this whole movie for me was that it was the opposite of Black Panther where the visual effects were expect. Yeah but none of that mattered. Because I thought the whole movie was a big joke he was like I vow. Never to kill and then snaps with this. This cake is back now. I'm never GONNA kill in that car wreck. It showed that his character. He's a selfish self absorbed. You know impatience ego narcissistic EGOMANIAC. I mean what changes will then. He hurt his hands. Hurt do all of his wealth to try and fix his hands Selfish Still Dick Dick. Still Selfish. And then when that doesn't work he goes to Asia. Wim Transplant to learn magic. He continues to be selfish me until the very end of the movie. Like don't read that book. Don't touch that thing. And he's like got it reads. He learns at the end. I would say the argument is. He makes the biggest sacrifice which she's not only his time but his like his soul to do or get an an infinite loop for. I don't know why ten thousand years or whatever the ultimate selfless accidents saying though that's his arc takes place in a montage it at the very end of the movie effective are it's a pyramid. It's a straight line and then it's the top dog or but then the thing is then doctor strange is great and everything else. I love him and all the other movies. He's Super Fun even his throwaway scene with thor. And I'm like this is fun game to where it's like. You know he sees the possibilities and he's done swayed on those cool. Yeah so you didn't like one game. He holds water oh and he holds his finger up. And here's what I retain a lot of water infinity. War is where he's like. He had that awesome fight with Anna. Has Tony I don't have the time so it's the sun so so you just didn't like that. His story ARC. I think I think was. I think the script is bad. I think the script is bad. Robert my biggest argyle. I think it's one of those things I I remember. I watched I watched that movie when the credits rolled I was like they should put all the visual effects. People I and the rider should be last because this script me feel so lazy. I thought it was fun. I'd go down to the portals on the bottom starting to beef with car guy. They they go down to the portals in the bottom and they're like they're like these are the most important for the he's got a bomb in and blows him into the next portal. And I'm like that's the way you figured out how to move this scene along the timing of this. They haven't committed any terrorist acts for the equivalent of like a year and half and this when they're taking them down to do. This is now how you figured out you someone. Someone came in and said. Hey what's his name Robert Robert Car Guy? Hey Robert we gotta go to the next scene. He's like it doesn't make sensitive like fuck yourself. It's got like a bomb blows up into next scene. I don't know I. I think the script is bad everything else. I'm fine I am. I'm sad we won't get mads Mikkelsen at anything else. Mass Nicholson's great. No He's batches great. Yeah no I'm just saying like like Swinton's great great in fact that little white maybe we'll get what I want. He's great. I think more does great. We saw all these people are. GonNa get breakfast in Austin and we saw long and he said he's right so yeah. What's it like working with? Your best friend Benedict. Took me goes. You're talking about my friend Benedict. Said they said but no. They'll never they won't stop us. I'll just going to say that psychedelic montage at the beginning was like the coolest thing I've ever seen that you know when he's going through the whatever the when Sweden talk wandering any good faith. He had regained with Hollywood into Massa worm from Nicole News you he wrote the script never why why skipped what Doctor. Strange. Just one of the the writers for that that thing and he's one of the he's the guy who cried on all the girls that But now different guy guy you know Also the fact that it has the best visual effects and I thought the whole kind of I don't know what you call like eastern mysticism you know Aspect of the EU. That doctor strange represents is a cool addition again. Someone like like ducks. That's put doctor strange and Black Panther together because there's because there's there's so many elements there that our per our great and could have been amazing if it wasn't for one major aspect that just completely fell apart for me in Black Panthers Case. It was what they thought the main character. The titular character was supposed to be in that movie which is an accessory to everyone else and in doctor strange. It's the laziness with which they plotted out an actual story for the movie to take place. James doesn't matter yes. It all doesn't matter because after almost twenty five films the box office. Stephen Lang Starve. Avatar to says when avatar comes out in December of this year it's going to break. Every avengers. Endgame Avatar is brought him back now. This article by James Cameron Spear Stab through his heart. Yeah yeah he's still there to December twelfth and December. Twelve this year Yeah no I'm sorry we did. It get moved again. What is this article from? Three days ago. Stephen Lang Band camp. I mean I think it's actually twenty twenty one twenty one. Sorry I read that I just. I got excited. I was like you're telling me I'm getting Dune and Avatar two in the same year impossible. Well when asked if Avatar to could top end game at the box office with venom in his voice Stephen Lang said I expect so. He's in venom to know. Vitamin is voiced cable. And he couldn't even do that so wouldn't that be sad if after all that? Avatar comes out twelve years after the first one and then like I can't they've already they. They used all their goodwill. Tricked US once. What do you mean what they say for the first time? Yeah they said it was fine now. I know but no. It's not it's fine. It's a for it's fine. It's an ugly one of the one. This is a low qualification. But it's one of the best three D. movies one arguing with Avatar in ten ten and then all Jackass Three d three D on legacy. No try an from dark. They didn't brighten the move. He went through that. You're going to take this into the other because we got to wrap this up. Unfortunately this is a fun one. Thank you for sharing as one more point I was. I've seen this article Around like that he says this but really just somebody asked him the question. I thought it was Fi. Expect his answers very noncombatant Stephen Lang by saying Beasley? Everyone sharing your marble. Best and worst. 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43: We're Wrong About... Iron Man 2 (Movie Review)

Rotten Tomatoes is Wrong (A Podcast from Rotten Tomatoes)

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43: We're Wrong About... Iron Man 2 (Movie Review)

"The hale and welcome back to the rotten. Tomatoes is wronged podcast. I'm jacqueline fully. And i'm joined today by my partner in crime. My lustrous co-hosts mr. marc ellis. How you doing sir jacqueline. I'm doing great. What a great week and we had we got to meet up in person. It was enjoyable. We got into a raging debate over how you like your wings. Jacqueline is bone in. I am bone out. And so jacqueline immediately demean me with the ultimate insult that. I'm merely eating nuggets. Gee sorry is the truth. And i love you and maybe we'll post like the telephonic evidence. Because i do love that. Mark the great instagram or that he is remembered to take an actual picture but just know that was two seconds after i basically was like. You're having kids meal wings shasta and that's why i'm concerned in the show. Today's because i'm very excited about the movie in question. But i have a feeling our guest is going to side with you if i know i think i do. I think he siding with you. And so i'm already outnumbered i. Yeah you'll like justin hammer in this podcast. Yes glad great marvel segue m. you segue yet today. look black. Widow is coming out into theaters tomorrow. And we're going to go ahead and revisit the movie where we met her for the first time When she was still. Natalie yep we're talking about iron man to folks. This one came out in two thousand and ten with plenty of references that clock it for two thousand ten. We'll get that their two minute. The tomato meter is at seventy two percent and it certified fresh with an audience. Score of seventy one percent. Looks like most people really enjoy this one but you know let me go ahead and just ask our guest today you guys. Remember 'em friend. He is a certified fresh guest. God i don't even know how many times maybe this fourth fifth time j. I don't know but jay for their fifth. Yeah j. washington you know him. From blurbs in the hood and plenty of other places across the internet sir is rotten tomatoes wrong about iron men to yes but i have a reason why they're wrong. Ooh do you wanna tease that reason. Injury should be higher. Wow okay come. In with that spice. Hey look. I think there's going to be a fun episode all right. We're going to go ahead and definitely breakdown. Ironman to talk about all the fun scenes all the movies. All the greatness i Mark give us your quick synopsis. What is iron man to about. I will do my best jay. Come in with the heat. The spice which is how i like my way. Excuse me nuggets so for iron man to this is what we're looking at. Kids is that. Tony stark is now out in public and everybody knows he's actually the one who is iron man. Got a couple of problems here not the least of which is his own ego which is starting to get a little tiny bit out of control. He also has the government yet. Government mule is trying to take his suit he says. It's just an apparatus as part of him but they say now. I think that's actually a weapon and you need a hand it over to the state. He also has the issue that his daddy who pioneered a lot of this technology. Who's now gone was working with a russian who got defected or deported. Depending on which store you believe that russian had a kid and a lot like ivan drago having a kid from rocky four this russians kid is very upset at tony stark and he has some blueprints and he's got some ways to make some similar technology to iron man and so when that comes to a head and he joins forces with justin hammer who the government relies on more. They rely on tony stark. We have our enemy. Luckily it's not just tony stark. You also have don cheadle as road in this one. Yes as i said. Don cheadle taking over for terrence howard and pepperpot becoming the new ceo of stark industries. It's a lot to chew on. There's a whole lot of stuff in this movie is. I'm just not sure if rotten. Tomatoes is right or wrong. Ooh yeah. we're going get our take on a writer on. But first we're going to go ahead and say hi to produce lucy who were blessed to even have with us today because she's had some computer issues that almost kept her from us this weekend. Kids let me tell you my word. It's crazy. I don't even have a microphone right now. My child all. I have to say about this movie is i want my. My board will move. I like boards. You have boards another another episode. With boris in attache realness. I love it wanted days. Were just gonna line up all of the russia we have any certain that we have any catch crew russian folks. Please judge these accents. I wanna hear a definitive breaking of the of the russian accents. We've had so far and i will include rounders which we just referenced in. The podcast only writes the oreo eating russian. Yeah we haven't done that movie but we definitely talked about it all right. Shut out to franny Produce these lovely daughter and j. Let's kick it off. Rotten tomatoes is wrong. Be about iron man to what's up. Would you get. Because i think it should be higher. This movie of this is the movie that officially makes marvel studios become a thing and decide. We can make something bigger and you have a lot at the time. We didn't know what to expect. We just had these one off movies. You had ironman one. You had the incredible hulk. And you're like okay. We doing our to. And then we're gonna start doing demagogues setup thor later on 'cause the very post critising you see thors hammer you have tony's demon in a bottle storyline. Which is tease where. It's he's an alcoholic but they don't fully go there. But i'm like i get it. You know the don cheadle as rhody in the very first introduction in the senate subcommittee here when he's like. It's me i'm here. It was get over it. Let's do it. It was the best way to just drop all of that. Not not the you look different everything you know. You have tony coming to terms with like you said. He's an ego maniac because he's like i prioritize world peace but then he realizes all. You can't do it alone. you have all these things. Sam rockwell is hilarious. This movie. we don't give him enough credit for what he brought to ironman too. I'm hoping they bring him back in. The armor wars series granted heated won academy awards. He seemed to be too busy. But you all these things. Mickey rourke for what is again. He's coming off oscar-nominated performance in wrestler. You know and when you hear. Mickey roy was gonna play a rushing. You like You sure about this. I mean he looks like he could drink a lot of vodka. I don't get me wrong. And for me the very first time we see him after his father dies at he does the terrible screaming. Like how many takes did they do with their scream till they just like. You know what this is what we don't go we're not we're not even gonna try to go any further but again there's so much in how a builds up a i i didn't even get to scarlett johansson well to i but there's so much stuff that this movie does and sets up even seeing the clip remain credible hope would nick. Fury is giving him his assessment of himself. Like you have to pay attention to the footage from win the hall tears culver university so it was so much in this because it was building so much so quick. Yeah and shot out to. John fabra the director of this one who you know. He had a tall order with iron man. But this was even taller because yeah you're right. Building block of the vendors are mark. I think i know what your thoughts are but Is ron tomatoes. Wrong about iron man to in grad tomatoes wrong about iron man to for the opposite reason jay. But i don't think it's so wrong that this movie should be below fresh. I think it's definitely a fresh movie. It was a very tall order for john. Fabric and company to turn this around and get this movie made on schedule. Because there's just two years later and jay's right we're setting up a lot for the future in here but whereas upon revisiting avengers age voltron who suited for the show. I saw a lot more than i liked in that. Maybe even then. I did when i actually saw because it made more sense. In retrospect this one to me. It feels slower. It feels like there's less life to it. It feels like we're trying to force a lot of tony stark fun into a movie. That just doesn't have that overall magic feel of the first one. And i just don't get the sense of enjoyment in this movie that i got from the first one or from the third ironman Error release at the first half of the third. So i feel like this is a movie that i can rewatch. I can enjoy some stuff then. I love the the opening sequence of tony arriving stark expo. I thought that that showed a wad of that life. And then i just felt like we were missing a little bit of that zest for most of the rest of the movie. I will agree with jay. That sam rockwell's great in it. Don cheetos great it. I like mickey work. I bought him as as as the russian villain. I just overall didn't quite get that sense of magic that i got with the first one. And it's it's tough to compare this or any movie to the original iron man because that is sort of the gold standard yeah leeann. I think this is a reversal. I always feel bad. Because i feel for the past few episodes. I've been debbie downer being like this this trash but i had a good old time with iron man too. I really felt this actually clicked on something that i really like when they do when they show the vulnerability of invulnerable characters. I i love love love that because it is so delicious and i think of a movie like sky fall like james bond is the ultimate spy but like after he gets shot near his heart. He's just like how gonna go get drunk on an island. And i don't really care about saving the world and i think you know you see elements of that in this one and i actually really enjoyed that sort of layer to tony. It makes some of the stuff that happens later when he becomes so committed to saving the world even more i would say relevant and important and Also i just like justin throws humor. I think the fact that they had a villain who's into whips and basically obedience 'em harness. That's just throw like don't get it twisted. They could've done that character. So many different ways like again on top of abortion tasha real is like mickey work is given his best effort to be christian grey. I'm so serious. A double take. And i did look it up immediately and my phone and i put it away for the rest of the movie but when i saw the credits and i saw justin throw was the was the right way. Way that the actor. And he's just an elitist. And i just assumed that actors aren't going to be able to be screenwriters as well and i was proven dead wrong. Yeah i think he did. One of the charlie's angels and i know he tropic thunder. He's he's he's done. You're you and quite talented. And you hate them for that because he also looks good. It's like you can't be like talented and actor hot. you know. it only got a marriage in anniston. I mean seriously. Like i mean dude. Had it a little bit winning like this fan. Like i need you to have like a bad mole or something like something needs to go wrong for you anyway. But that's our sort of thoughts on rotten. Tomatoes is wrong. I really enjoyed this movie. I'm kinda j. I think it should be higher. Like i had so much. Fun with this movie And again the things that i didn't like about it felt like it wasn't the movies fault and we'll get into that and that's mostly about casting but let us go ahead and take ourselves back just eleven short years but it feels like so much longer to two thousand and ten. Tim ryan argue. Curation manager is going to break down with the critics. Were saying at the time. So brian cuban music kinda strange to say this. In retrospect but rereading the ironman reviews from two thousand eight. You're struck by how many critics were almost surprised at how well it worked particularly robert downey junior in the title role which seems kinda in retrospect but by the time of iron man to in two thousand ten some of that shyness worn off a bit. The reviews were solid but not spectacular and the feeling among critics seemed to be that while. Downey and mickey rourke gave terrific performances. The story was substantially less interesting and it felt like more of a setup for the sequels rather than a completely satisfying movie on its own. It certified fresh at seventy two percent on the tomato meter with three hundred and four reviews. And it's got a seventy one percent audience score. So what did the critics have to say and a fresh review. Warren macdonald of the seattle times wrote down. He still has plenty of moments of charm. Nobody kicks car aside as casually as this guy and most of the action seek was are lively and fun. However in a rotten review. Rene rodriguez of the miami herald wrote ironman. Too is more of a setup for the upcoming avengers picture than a standalone adventure. A puzzling and unexpected disappointment considering how fresh entertaining the first picture was the rt critics consensus reads. It isn't quite the breath of fresh air that ironman was but this sequel comes close with solid performances and an action packed plot. All right so that's iron man to let's kick it back to those genius. Billionaire philanthropist. Jacqueline and mark was billionaire. I'll fake it. i'll take it hey. Perception is reality. Jack when we gotta live like tim ryan thinks we should be living. I mean seriously tomatoes. Make it happen. He said it. So now you'll have to do it. Just kidding look i. It's interesting too. Because i think i saw ironman too like at home. I don't think i saw this one in the theater. In fact i'm almost positive. I didn't see this one of the theater Those are are what we call the blurry years when i lived in austin Feeder opening night and it was at arc. Light may at rest in peace for now or take a nice nap and on life support. Let's just say it's on life support in hollywood and i was sitting in the front row as you do especially in an arc light. John fabric came out to surprise the crowds introduce it and then another surprise he brought robert downey junior and so everybody went crazy and so i think that that like that energy going into how much energy the first thirty minutes of this movie has was really really fun. I was completely finished with my popcorn. Got well jay. We're going to break down. You know when you saw it how you saw it and of why you love it and agree with me that it should be higher but let's go ahead and transition over into movie. Talk brian. Cuban music key dokey so jay. Where'd you see it. Did you see ford city theatre for cities of in chicago at the theater where everybody hung out and kicked it. Because of course it's what you do in the two thousands kick it at a mall for some reason because you have no money you just was there I saw it. I remember going to see. Because i'm tommy fan so any kind of movie that came out. I was at the theater to see it. Regardless it didn't matter my my impression would be made at. I saw a movie. I don't wanna watch this again. But i remember watching it and i remember just being like ooh. I'm in love with this. I was a big kid in theater. You know it. Gina got because again knowing the comic book storyline. Like i said earlier and seeing. Mickey rourke i was like this do just went off the top rope couple years ago as now now. He is out here in tidy whitey in a russian prison in a french prison. Excuse me Telling tony stark. You lose you lost. Maybe would lead us to believe in them. You know so. I remember watching all i remember laughing about a lot but then i remember like my what my biggest pops me was the happy and that and Italian natalie whatever she was called at the time the the black widow happy scene where they were in hammer technology and happy fighting one dude and you got all johannesen running through people. That was the moment. I was like i was. I was like yup this k- do no wrong. Because it was it was going to be. I was loving it at again. Dodge cdl has always been that dude for me. I've been a fan of john for as long as i can remember as soda. Watch him just be like well. I'm in this movie. let's see what happens. Because he didn't even know he when he got the movie was able. You gotta our too. He was like well. I guess any any having so much fun. You see it so it was just so many memories for me with this movie. Yeah mark what about you. So like i guess like lucas warm on it. So i don't know if i want to start with. Maybe why you were like feeling that. It was slow or disjointed or maybe not enjoying it as much. But did you have one of those scenes where you're like. This is the magic. This is the iron man. Gimme gimme yeah. And i think one of them i. It's a little scene. It's a quick scene. But it is the very first time that we see scarlett johansson as natalie slash who ends up being revealed as black widow. Is that scene where tony and happier training. And he's doing his boxing. He's doing his mma and then for whatever reason he just house natalie is like okay now you go in the ring and let's see what you got and she does extend and i'm like okay. That's fun and this person definitely now. Is worthy of being an avenger. Just from seeing that. There's some senior. Take down a middle aged director. I was like you know what yes you are. Now officially and avenger. Oh wow very very impressive. Individual french italian russian. Latin who speaks no one speaks. Latin was dead language. You can read latin. Are you doing right because she took you well. She's got everything that i will never won. Ever take your eye off your noodle for legal that right legal before it was a fun joke. It was a recurring joke throughout the because he where are you from and she just say legal and it's like that okay. Give us the full story here. Yeah i also think is really funny too. Because when i was watching this i was watching. This was someone who watches friends. And i am not. I've only seen the thanksgiving episodes and maybe like three others And they thought it was funny. Because apparently john fabra was on friends and he played a dude. That was a boxing champion. He played a he wanted to be a cage. Fighters is how they referred to it at the time. That's what it was. I just feel like there's when it comes to any moment when jon favreau favreau is on screen. He very much feels like the director. That's like yeah. I'm the director. And i can do this so i'm going to put my little friends call back and i'm going to literally put robert downey junior in what every other time. I'm staring at him all day. Let me make him pretend like he staring at me all day and i have the camera operator pretend the robert downey junior signing cars and you know what i mean like literally like like are really. I get to do all the driving. Like i'm like you just wanted to have stunk car tire. Like let's be honest So i do think that. If i was in the director's chair for a multi-million dollar movie after i was the one that told them they absolutely had to get this guy. I'm gonna have fun in this movie too. You know 'cause. I'm sure so much of the story as we'll get to later felt like setup. He probably didn't have as much control over the story but he did have control over all the toppings and man. It looks like he's having so much fun with those writings at the diner. Where where he realizes who natalie actually is. Yeah that is one of those setup moments that i did think worked in the movie for the movie itself as well as opening the world because you see the look on tony space. And he's realizing very quickly that this is a much bigger thing than even just iron man and how potent iron man's powers are and how good iron man has been keeping some semblance of world peace. It's going to require more than just him. And you see a lot of that in that moment when he's talking to nick fury black widow also. That's what we get. The first full flushed out moment. In nick fury yeah. 'cause we're he walks up circuit. You please step out the doughnut. Like target and more of him. Because you like okay. 'cause all we got it i was i admire. You know you find that out below small piece. We got in the first one. But now you're getting more nick fury and you're like this is sam jackson out who nick fury years and making his own and it starts to come together just to that scene in the dining. But he's just like i'm trying to get you back to work like all these things. What do you want from me. What do we want from you what you want from me. You become a problem problem. I have to deal with. Contrary do you believe you are not the center of my universe. Bigger problems than you in the south region to do it. I'll actually say this too. I think when. I talk about toppings one thing that is toppings for me is what i call the rock them sock them. Robots seen literally. Jon favreau has iron man and war machine fight within a boxing ring. That is literally him owning his jeddah status and being like. Yeah we're going to do. Rock them sock robots and like i live for it. I'm like any robot movie. That doesn't do this. One of the reasons why loved pacific rim and like hated so many of the other like roma movies. Where i'm just like this is rock sock them. Robots dole dole like mess up the formula. And just having tony and don cheetos so having robert downey junior don t will square off from each other where he tells the dj before drop the beat like they are just owning every aspect of. How absurd this isn't i. Love loved loved it. It was a that that to me is like again. It's sort of like what i said in altron. They're having fun. And i'm kind of all about watching famous people with millions of dollars and probably hundreds of people watching being like. Yeah no. we're going to do it because it's fun it's like it's stupid you've got tony who didn't draw as all get out beforehand blast this year bottles tell these. Am drop feb. beat my friends asked. Shut it goldstein. Yes mr starr. Gimme beat to beat my. I told you to shut it down. Walks over casually grabs the bar with the weights off the way periods did hit him like looks out. Now go put that back when you got it from. Its honestly remember those nerf bats. He literally hits them with that. Like you would hate your friend with a nerve bat again. John fabric was embracing every aspect of his childhood. In this movie. I love love loved it. But i mean it's interesting too because the justin hammer character is like what tony used to be which is also kinda. Why big that's so interesting. Which is one of the reasons why. I think you can't sleep on this. And there's a lot of tony character development going from the moment when he gives pepper the company and that scene at the very beginning when she's he's just like i'm trying to make you. Ceo if you will just shut up and let me which is other a woman. That's exactly like how that works because like stopped talking and like trying to get something to understand totally understood peppers moment in that and then she just sits there like that's a great like non verbal acting by gwyneth. Paltrow she just lets the weight of what he saying. Sort of hit her and in the back of remind being like. But there's more to this story like it's more than meets the eye a loved that too. I like that. That correlation you just made between justin hammer being who tony stark used to be good looking slick genius but is just in it for the prophet. Doesn't really care about the human cost. The thing about this movie for me. I just didn't buy our scenes like that birthday party scene. Where the fight up being a cool looking fight. But even tony. In all of his egotistical bombastic alcoholic. Self i would. I just did not buy any that scene. Where he's like he's like he's doing shooting clay pigeons and putting people's lives at risk. That just never felt even even tony darkest moments truck just. Didn't he was getting drunk in the first one to i just by not being irresponsible. He thought he was dying. You had you literally have jarvis telling the thing that's saving your life is also killing you. Talks talks to. Natalie save you found out you only have a few moments left to live. What would you do as he literally kills him. Do whatever you on. I was at the store i have in my hand. You're charging me way too much money for he goes. He's in the suit mark. What do you feed people. Ask me how do i go to the bathroom. And there's a paul. He just goes all like that. I thing in the suit that will live from dirty rotten scoundrels. I do buy portion of it. But i just don't think he's putting laser beams right about people's heads even if he's hammered. I just don't okay. I'll give you a little bit. There is some danger to that moment. That is probably not accurate. But also i'm looking at it like this is thirty minutes till midnight for him at that moment with. No you know other side do it. And so i think the absurdity of that is much mostly relative to the fact that like literally i mean. He's like what maybe a week. Couple of weeks like yooglie going up every ten percent and once he hits one hundred lights out and so i don't know people people get really morbid. Apparently like amblin when she knew she was going to get executed. Started like having all these like weird morbid telling people about the king's like sex life like having all these weird things that us telling her ladies in waiting. So i'm like you don't know what you're going to do when you know that the ax is coming that's why i put it Speaking of Natasha though or natalie at that point we'll talk a little bit about the casting in this movie because there's a lot of like switches and turns here but i'll give it up for scholar johannesen as you know the second choice I think she does a really great job. And then later you kinda see where she is even though in the back of my mind. I'm like what is he what heavily blow would have done. And i think seeing her as natalie is. The most believable part of the character on that hallway. Scene is great but looking at emily. Blunt edges tomorrow. Can't you just think like come on. Yeah i read. Is that what it it but again we all still cross these fingers for the testing for like we're all sydney like just leave it alone the alley with. But it's like everybody's like can you just be messing with everybody until they officially announce it but it is that i get you what you say the the natalie roll you're like that scarlett johansson there. We go this. Did you see the first wing. And i'm like well. That is some good camera. work care to work for. What do you like okay. That's definitely not her. Yeah when you do see her. It does look a little bit believable. That you gotta you gotta suspend disbelief. You gotta be like okay. This could have been july man. They found all the right angles to make sure. No one knew the difference. Yeah and i don't know what scarlett johansson's like you know dancing or choreography or fight you know. Experience was before that but she definitely wasn't doing action movies like this. And i just say she could probably beat the crap out of me. I'm going to go on. Yes now then. I think i think back. Then she probably could have beat the crap out of me even in two thousand ten thousand ten yourself man. You got to believe that you can. I hate jay not all. This wrestled this past weekend the weekend off but that hallway scene i. That's the original hallway seen kids. It's not from daredevil. Which is a great hallway. Seeing this fight was is what we talked about previously on this show when we were talking about ten. It's not just fun rushing accents. It's also close quarters combat where the choreography is just so mesmerizing and again. It's it's watching. Somebody go from being a normal person. We think from legal into being a true visage of a superhero and to watch. That metamorphosis happened like that. That was one of the cool things to the movie. And that's one of those things where it's even more fun to watch now. In retrospect having seen all the we've gotten sense then from black widow. Yes and i will say this to even in that respect with the with the whole black widow situation theology. Hanson's been really big about giving props to her stub women She's taught she's done like a bunch of spreads. bobby wanamaker. yeah talking about how they are. What makes her and now. Obviously however many films deep and she's about to finally get her own. It'll be interesting to watch black widow having because i haven't actually seen black what i'm saying it to night as we're recording by the time this goes live a we'll have seen it. I'll sud. I'll see you there but it will be interesting to watch her this time because i obviously she's she's got a few movies under you. Learn a little bit as you go. And i can imagine. She's able to do more now than she was able to do. In the first one or it could be the other way around. She's just like go ahead. Sweetie i'm gonna go. I'm gonna go hit my trailer and guess what else we're getting guess. What else forgetting what. Oh russian accent yet. More russian accents david harbour Also what's her name. God fumes pugh lawrence pugh. Yes lawrence pugh. Who i just love. I was not a fan of midsummer but she. She gave it her all in that movie mary crazy of this is why i don't know why people sometimes now seriously brothers told me on multiple occasions. He's not going to go on the road with me because he's worried. I'm taking him to some midsummer like ritual and the brother the whole time. Like listen to black people telling you and they just like glories ignoring Another thing we've kind of talked on it before. About mickey worth. I'm sorry micky work was our first Entry of bedia semi marvel issue. You cannot tell me different like that is the most insane flunkies is and i know they come up with some stupid reason why it was supposed to be there. But i'm like the minute. I thought i was like. Oh this cake like legitimate hillary but they said told you why he had whips up. That was the issue. The harness was to power. The whims lose. Like out of all the things. You could fam- you just looked around the house when you were making this in a back alley siberia home. You just happened to have whips that you would like you know what these look. Good electrified like. What can you also picture. Mickey work as like your neighbor in the suburb. And he's out there with this parakeet and like on his lawn like if he was in just a regular like robe or like just normal clothes and i saw him with a bird. I'm like there is freaky things going on in. That would the one with the whips he would he would just it'd be a giant electrified weed whacker where he's going back and forth and i really think i feel for the character to because the character it seemed like he wanted to have those electrified whips particularly with the purpose of shopping cars in half lately. That's why he did it. And then the rest of the movies just now. This is what i'm taking it back. I'm really. I wish i'd sort of modified my weaponry a little bit more but man does that. What an imposing presence. Yeah for a villain to arrive with where he does. Not care about the cars indy cards over two hundred miles an hour kids. They're just zoomed by him. He does not care perfectly times the whips and he gets a car rammed into his legs multiple times and he bounces back from it. That is a guy hell bent on hips and four times a guessing the with the c. Again south of john farrell and just the road good dialogue that pepper happy antonio habit at that moment where. He's trying to get the briefcase he likes. Can i get off. The football told even sales having you try to hit me like we try to hit what you're trying to me get football. Yeah the other thing is interesting too. Is they took away. That plot device in the story of ironman of him being able to get into the soup. Because i think like a movie after this basically he had it on his wrist where he could lynn switch into the suit by turning his wrist on. I think by game. It was literally like a ring on his finger. Which is like. I'm like seriously chess. I mean seriously Also to on that that formula one seen this like a ton of things in this movie first of all donating all the modern art to the boy scouts of america. that one didn't age well Ya'll there's a lot going on there. And then e lan. Musk pop in and surprise me rewatching the last night. I didn't realize that he was the thing back. In two thousand ten the for tesla it was before he before he moved to austin and ruined my city and started. You know you know doing all the other things that he's doing so you're blaming your blaming you on mosque and a bunch of comedians moving to your city. The problem with they're not sending their best austin look mark. Let's just be honest for a second. Okay it helps property value i will. I will live in that truth rather than understanding that when i go home. I'm going to be very much like what happened. I'm scared i get. I get reports on scared. Tim ryan you own multiple houses in austin. Yeah exactly. I have one over travis. sorry lake austin travis and you know our vacate hate vacation home in marble falls We're gonna talk a little bit about it. It's sort of behind the scenes but it's a nice little thing to sort of like translates into don cheadle Coming in and taking over for terrence howard. Which i think it all worked out. Don cheadle is amazing. Yeah he wanted to give tony. Tony yeah mark. Sorry i if you're just going off don cheadle being in this movies and now in these series of films. It's always great to have an actor of that caliber in movies like this because it adds legitimacy to it and his relationship that he's forged you can see how much him and tony still care about each other. Beer also see that they're on different ends of the spectrum with a lot of the events in this movie but that makes it even cooler when war machine and iron man at the end of the film have to team up to win the day and so they have that fight between each other. It's a little like a pre civil war toys birthday party when he's hammered and then to watch them team up that's one of those cool chill inducing moments that you get that. I think we're lacking for most of this movie. But that scene is definitely one of them. It's probably why that was the scene in the trailer that really helped sell. This movie is again towards the end. Being attacked by drones. Here comes iron man and war machine back to back like a buddy cop movie. Yeah no absolutely and you needed that and having them argued through the first part of the film is really interesting and i also thought it was interesting too that they kept rhody where he actually was because rhody is a is a is an officer in the military. You follow orders like the idea that he would break bad with tony as a little disingenuous for a whole bunch of reasons. One of the reasons. Why i think sam is sam is. He's retired at the beginning of his time. With with steve. Rogers like to be an active duty military person into just sorta say like. I'm not following orders. And how many times does how many times does a rhody say that. I'm just here on orders. I'm just here on orders like he just wanted to know he's like i can't. I can't do anything about it. I can't do anything about it. Which again it's it's interesting and i feel a bit for That character but again. I think don cheadle added a lot to to what could have been maybe a little. A little one-sided hey folks mark from the show here so let me guess. You probably tried meditation before and it didn't work right. Yeah i used to put on pink. Floyd and think i was meditating. So maybe you're like me and you were doing it wrong. 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Dry blue free when you use our promo code rotten at checkout. Just pay. The five dollars shipping. That's blue dot com promo code rod to receive your first month free and we thank blue shoe for sponsoring the podcast. But also yeah. I think we already talked about sam rockwell also give it up for sam rockwell get and his wife cast in the movie leslie bench his wife and then he got her in this way and maybe not married partner. But they've been together since frost nixon which is like two thousand seven so like they've been together a while All right we're going to get out of the movie. Talk and go into a little bit behind the scenes. But i i mean i guess. A lot of the reviews said felt like a setup felt like a setup honestly now after in game and all the stuff they've done. Everything is a setup. They have ret con so much. You could say that. I think about all of this and i have to think some of that was planned so i don't know mark what are you are feel like a lot of that is the last thing you see. What the movie and and so many times. It's not the fault of the film or the post credits scene. But we're walking out of the movie talking about the post credit scene as much as we are the movie itself and here you had a completely different post credit scene. That sort of a tease of thor. The john fabric did not direct. I mean that's footage that they got from when they were shooting. Thor and so. I think that that is part of the reason. Why feels like a set up movies that you didn't just have this jokey tag at the end or something more. Intrinsic to the iron man franchise proper. You saw a greater. Mc you but you also had. Some new characters introduced and so. I think this is the time when you look at ironman movies as vehicles to introduce more characters because they know everybody's gonna wanna see an iron ironman movie so let's sprinkle and characters that we can introduce now and then set up for their own future movies. Yeah j what about you. How do you feel about it again. You agree with mark. Yeah you set up a lot of things but this is its own movie. Because it's the story of tony stark at the end of the day you know. Yeah you got post credit scenes but we. We started getting post credit scenes in ironman. You know i'm here to tell you about the avengers initiative which everybody loses their mind You have any credible hope have have. We talked to you about the adventures initiative. This is the one what the one thing so far. Will you don't hear the words avengers you know at the end. You hear it in the movie so everything they did you know for me. It was like it was its own film. Yes it's ability to something else and like jacqueline said earlier. In in retrospect everything is a setup. Yeah everything is. I mean that we look at twenty three films to the marvel cinematic universe. You like wealth. This built all the way up because all the time we were building up to avengers to that burst conflict with tony and steve of you're not the guy to step on a lot you know lay on the line for the guy everything special about you came in a bottle. We get the pay off of that and then game. We talked with steve lifting a hammer. Tony's im ironman dying. You can get all these things so everything that they say. Will people like otis in feel like its own. It is its own. Yeah and i think it takes a little bit away and again at that time we were very much living in the spoiled land of superhero adaptations. And so we could be strange nit picky. I think some of the later stuff that we saw for maybe some other studios let people know. Hey this is a little bit harder than y'all think you're making a movie that is setting up so much and having that movie at least be enjoyable on the way there because there's a fine line between being a setup movie and being patsy you know you you don't just want to you. Don't want to telegraph that. You're just setting up. That's what i had the problem with one of those maze runner movies where the whole movie felt like it was just trying to get you to come back for the for for the third one next year and this one at least did a good job of keeping you entertained although full well knowing that there's going to be a lot more movies so start saving your money. Everyone yeah all right. That wraps up our movie talk section. Let's go ahead and talk about the behind the scenes because this is another example of one of those movies. We had so much fun but there was a lot going on behind the scene. So brian cuban music. Okay could so we already talked about. Don cheadle replacing terrence howard. But there's like so much behind this. And i said that. It looks like they're having fun but there was also some like other things that went on behind the scenes Mark do you have your favorite leg. You know trouble in paradise. Sort pull from iron man that you want to bring up. We'll just the thing of mickey rourke. Afterwards complaining that he really worked hard to make this this character multidimensional and and give him a proper back story and reasoning to where you could side with him in some regard and according to him. A lot of that was left on the cutting room for and so with an actor. Mickey works caliber. You do wanna see what else we could have had with that movie and that bleeds into something else that we heard reports of is that they were literally finishing the script as their onset. And so it's it's coming down to the wire here and you're just you're pressed for time so you can't get everything quite as fine tune as you wanted to and i feel like mickey works. Performance may have been one of the victims of those constant changes. Yeah i mean or maybe his character development maybe not his performance but just his development. Because i did feel like he gave a pretty good performance considering now knowing what you know as far as the difference i one dimension even though he does i mean you still you see this and you understand. Why he he is who he is. This isn't just some random villain who just shows up with no motivation whatsoever. You understand where the guys coming from. Yeah absolutely the one thing i will say to about. This film is nobody. I think felt one hundred percent secure. Because if i about again at now i'm like how does dj who seems to be so like the captain of the ship and really you know he. He pulled justin throw into this. How does he let the terrence howard thing happen. That is something that always never that well with me is sort of like okay if you didn't like him and you're okay with them being recast but it seems like you know. I know they didn't want you as iron man but after that success. Don't you feel you could have been like. Hey guys like. I'll take a little bit of a cut so we can get terrence howard to be in this movie. I don't know what do you think i mean for. Terrorists our to wake up one morning having coffee and look at the paper it out. He's been place is the hardest thing ever 'cause that's the story that terrorists. Our welcome in morning was reading the newspaper and found he'd been replaced He didn't even get told. Yeah so it is cadillac. If you robert downey junior. You're like yeah. You could possibly tell them. But there's also so many rumors going around like you said terrence howard. Ask for so much more money. More than robert downey junior. And he wasn't the star a- gig. Went back to what you just said as well you had john farrell who had to literally beg and plead like y'all can we please get robert downey junior and everybody was like. No you know his past like there's no guaranteed he was like trust me and it's just it's really it's it. Sounds like the confusing thing. But it's not it's like how do you tell somebody they're gonna recast you. How you. I'm telling you that in that part of fabric fighting for downey to be ironman was fought by terrence howard because tears howard before danny was cast iron so terrence howard was one of the ones in the downey camp and so that's where the disappointment is the weirdness. I don't know if they had a falling out or whatever it was but according to terrence howard The downey he helped down and get the job and then when he found out he didn't he he was going to be recast. He didn't talk to danny for a period of months after that. And so yeah. I'm with you jaclyn always never sat quite right with me. I i know that there's gotta be more to that story. But at the end of the day we as the audience. We're still going to go see these movies. And don cheetos a replacement is pretty damn good backup to come in off the bench. And what's interesting too. Is i think the reason why this movie gets. A bit of a bad rap was the was the box office for it like it was a bit of a step down especially from you know at this point now particularly but even back then billion dollars. That's the benchmark for these movies. They put so much money into the marketing. Put so much money into it. And so it doesn't hit that it can feel like a disappointment. And so even though i think this movie holds up it has a lot of enjoyment. Even some of the cast. Were like disappointed with it. It's also funny. We mentioned the contract. Shutouts Hoffmeyer our researcher but samuel jackson also had contracts issues because they wanted to sign him up for nine movies and brother was like. That's a lot. That's a lot of work. You gotta turn down over the next few years if you're gonna do nine movies it's kind of a miracle that it's always a miracle when a movie gets made i always say this. It's miracles in the movie gets made if the movie happens to be a good movie. It's even more of a miracle The fact that maybe you had a good time doing it and it ends up being a good movie like that's like a trifecta that's a hole in one and it doesn't. I think often happen with these phones to jay was saying about don cheadle when he got offered the role. It was his kids birthday party. And you got a call and they said hey marble once you they want to meet with you but they're going to go ahead and offer you this role. They need a six picture commitment. You have one hour to make a decision. Yeah so exactly. You're thinking about the the next decade of your life and it's it's a lot that's a that's a very Consternation our to contemplate your future. And then you gotta think sorry jacqueline. No then you got if they would have possibly recast samuel jackson right when you look at it and you find out that the mc you is mirrored offered the ultimate universe of marvel comics where nick fury was made off of samuel jackson in comics before he was even cast in the role so like. How do you try to change that. It's just all these what you know. It's that what if no pun intended for disney. Plus what like what would have happened in all these situations but now think about if somebody would have said no right if if dot says no doing this. If samuel jackson says no. I'm not doing this. What does the marvel cinematic universe. Look like as we know it. Now it's totally different captain. America captain america captain marvel billion dollar movies so much of that is what samuel l. Jackson does colson. how that character evolves. There's just so much That i would say is incredibly involved in this movie and so it doesn't get maybe the credit that it should get another thing too so again. We're doing this because of black widow. I mean just looking back on another thing. That doesn't hold up. Why is why scarlett johansson in her bra. Y'all gonna put her in a t-shirt underneath that outfit play. It's the same thing with the brush shot in into darkness member. What's her name. She has that like naked scene. Like women need to change way more than women need to change in these movies. Also guys love that. Every time she walks into frame. The camera is down under her ass. Yes it's so. Degrading can tell. This movie was directed in two thousand ten and not two thousand twenty mainly those kind of reasons but even just the the sexism that tony stark character wears on his sleeve in this movie even more than in the first one when we knew he was a philandering playboy. But this takes to when literally your his. You're from legal and he's just gonna make you go fight happy. It's like loved her takedown of happy. That seem but the whole setup of it was like this guy really has some really needs to be in therapy abroa- shots of natasha romanoff in this movie. That i still oh she modeled in japan. We got a not just show at one way. We gotta show at the other way too or the one the seat would there at monaco. And you have christine everhart leslie. Bibs character come with justin hammer and he was like yeah. She's doing a spread 'em he was like yes she did a read on me too and yeah you like oh oh exactly it is of the time but it is the time and the the other thing i will just go ahead and add to with the two thousand ten of it is. There's an interview by one of our brethren who will remain nameless. But i will never forget this because again the natasha romanoff suit. I don't recall it being quite that hardcore in the comics jay. Correct me if i'm wrong. But the one big i will say is he asked. He asked carla johanneson in the interview. Can you wear underwear in that. Like reporter ripped me. Yeah look tight. But i dare say that. That's not a question that you're going to get. I don't think she's going to be asked. that question. in the press rounds for black widow. I'll say could you wear it's rawls. You'll suit what no like. I will ask tom holland if he wears underwear in his suit though by the way tom holland talks about this like he. Looks like the geek onset because everybody else wears these like molded suits and He because of the way his sudas setup and because it is so tight he's basically in a like one eighty like he's in this like like gymnastics unitards basically until like everybody else is all like thors got his like do you know cape on strange and things and even a river kid go see empire strikes back. I mean we got with a was. She was sexualize. I mean most if you look at most women in comics today big breasts and all these you know just really detailed features but i don't think they just drew things like so you can see them the bottom of black widows button right here like this is just a shot like those were in the thing but in our men to was like no. Make sure you get this shot right here. This is still the man who made swingers love you john. You're amazing you're awesome you've grown but he still makes wingers. Don't wanna be wonderful. We don't anyone to forget that. I think that was the marvel thing. Though right it was marvel's ongoing like let's make sure to show her ass now. Every time she walks onto frame. It's like you know sex sells but that means the ladies have to be putting it. Yeah this is also two thousand ten and you have. Michael bay made it made how. How many movies that had pioneered that artificial making of getting the shot from below looking up at a dude. It's a billowing trenchcoat if it's a female it's a billowing skirt or it's it's jeans if you're lucky and i think that that's just some of the two thousand ten of it and that you look at this movie as a setup for future marble movies and it does a great job of that but you also look at it. As how do we course correct from being this overt in our testosterone. How do we. How do we actually control this and harnesses a little bit more and make it more palatable for audiences of all kinds to enjoy i know how i know how you go to the avengers and the first time you see black widow you have her inner shared being a spy a sexy dress any she just whoops. Everybody still out booze. You're right right right. She didn't have to do that later. but actually this is a good moment for that since we're talking about sort of the way things lineup. Where does this rank for you. J. like where do you put it this. The iron man like what's the order. Which is the first. Which is the last the ironman trilogy. Yeah it's one. Two three is automatic is literally in order one two three. I think that's the easiest way to say it for me too. I know there's people who like have written video essays and have made their entire personality around saying that iron man. Three is grace al-mahjaja job. They don't sit out somewhere. I'm really the man. I'm like one one-two-three. I don't think three is as bad as people give crap four right but i still think it's one-two-three martin went to three okay. I'm going to be very frustrating on this. The answer is the best movies the first one the second best ironman movie is the first half of iron man three and then all of iron man to and then i'll put the second half of ironman three and it's not just the mandarin reveal. I at least like that that that a machine. This huge in this global as the mci had become by that point was still up for taking risks. That that's a big swing. And i'm not saying they knocked it out of the park but i appreciate them taking the risk and at least sticking the bunt. Yeah but there's other things that just bothered the hell out of me towards the end of iron man three where it just it just evolves so much for me than i'm put that half below ironman too and so i can put any of these movies on and if i'm just hanging out with the doggie on a saturday i'll probably finish watching whatever ironman movie i put on. Just enjoy the movies and that character and all the other poppins that we get that much but iron man the first one is still the gold standard for me. Maybe in the whole. Mca to be honest with you. Yeah okay. I don't disagree with that one and that's actually a good place to go ahead and end this Behind the scenes talk and transition to trivia slash. Talk about the mailbag. So brian use up. Yes we don't have mailbag this week. So robot attributes slabs. You ain't got that. Yeah rusher on my trivia question time for future episodes you can hit us up our is wrong at rotten. Tomatoes dot com. That's rt is wrong at rotten tomatoes dot com. We love hearing your comments or suggestions for future movies. We love our certified fresh. She's so you're trivia question today. I'm going to give you an easy one in a hard one. The easy one is i. Guess they're both a little challenging so in this movie. You have six main stars who have combined to be nominated for nine. Oscars watt of a lot of potential hardware winters in this movie. Two of them won an oscar at some point in their career. Name the two that actually own and oscar from iron man to see sam rockwell and tatreau. Very good very good. See i told you. There's one easy one tougher one. So the tougher one. You may know the answer to this again. I didn't know justin throws a screenwriter until last night named the other sequel that justin throw is credited writing. I know that jay says eat. It is definitely not a comic book movie and it is sorry to say this. I'm a big fan of justin's acting. It's one of the worst movies i've ever seen in my life. Well that speaks volumes of might have not even seen their. Give them give them help. There's a quote about ants in the first one right it's comedy sequel right supermodels. What is the land zealand. Land-related he wrote to lander to. He did rain his column rotating covering and that's a movie that i hope we never do on the show simply because there is no rotten tomatoes is wrong about somebody may love it. It's not as low as it could be. If one part of that movie that that that is funny is when he runs into sting that that part is funny but other never seen nev- you don't need to i promise you it's just like you never need to see caddyshack to you. Don't need to see it. I appreciate you for taking the hit for me to where i don't i don't i don't have to deal with that jay sir neutralizer as always. This would love you to were amazing. I love y'all individually as people. Wait if anomaly. Is people markets like a superstar just trying to ride his coattails jacqueline you just like the epitome of black excellence in this case you know what i'm saying i love being here with y'all am saying it warms my heart and is books for the rest of the month. Ladies and gentlemen. I'll the nezar tell folks go ahead. Marc gotta ask you when you get wings bone in bone out. Well i'm a grown man in an adult so there's this thing called bone in wings now we're doing boneless wings. They're not chicken nuggets. Doing cut up chicken tenders mark. I just want you to say if you if i all aging we're getting older in our years and if you wanna tell us all that you don't have back teeth so you don't wanna do chicken wings with bones in them. I understand that that's what you're telling us. We have the technology to remove the bones. And i'm taking advantage. We just cut up the chicken dividend battery and don't on Mechanically separated chicken is a thing but trust me mark. You don't wanna go there. I actually a person. There's been a little like strife because i am actually drumet- fan. I am too. And i not everyone here. Shares my love of mets. And i've been told that flats when no wings without flats are like kitty wings. So i feel like as far as i've been told because there's also like a way to eat flats correctly to where you get it clean like there's another thing about that and I've been told that. I have kitty wing so everybody has their connoisseurs. And you know what catch crew talk to us about your wing strategy. What are your favorite sauces. I want to know a j. Let us know what you're working on real quick so we move absolutely. I'm working on not going to wingstop which is on the corner from my house data and this conversation 'cause i can just walk wingstop. That has nothing but the devil. That's satan right. 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Most hilarious thing i've ever seen in my life like david better made role with this movie. Lord i gotta see it never. It has a great. There's a great gift of samuel jackson that that movie out also movie of its time. I'll just put that out there. It is also a movie of. It's time we have to get out of here But i wanna make sure. I give a chance because he is back on the road. Ladies and gentlemen. Mr marc ellis. Please check them out. Mark ellis live over at his website or on his twitter where you can link to the website because i know you have some dates sir and i wanna make sure folks that listen to us can check it out so thank you. I'll be in seattle later this month. July twenty fourth and doing a cool theater of there and then in september. Nfl kick off. Week i'm going to be in las vegas at brad garrett's comedy club all week long from september six to september twelfth. Then in between you could probably find me in hollywood at the world famous comedy store. 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11 Trivia Questions on Iron Man

Trivia With Budds

10:45 min | 1 year ago

11 Trivia Questions on Iron Man

"It's eleven trivia questions on all things ironman from the comic books to the movies. This is trivial would buds Be and welcome to another episode of the Trivia with Buds podcast. I'm your host Ryan Butts. Thank you so much for checking out. My show comes out every single day. So hit subscribe. And you'll never miss one of the new episodes that pop up every day on your favorite podcast APP as well as YouTube dot com slash trivia with buds. If you WANNA watch the show in HD on your smart tv you can do that as of January so thank you so much for joining me either with audio or video or both. I've been watching. Some cool. New shows are the old smart. Tv My house. And we watched the first episode of hunters that premiered on Friday over the weekend February. Eighteenth something like that and it was pretty good. I liked it. It was definitely different than I thought it was going to be. It's super super violent. Super Uber violent which the trailer showed that but they show a lot of crazy stuff. There's a lot of crazy flashbacks and things like that. Al Pacino's Great Logan Lerman is great. So I'm excited to keep watching the shell. I saw got kind of bad reviews. It's in the sixties. I think. Sixty three percent sixty two percent on rotten tomatoes. But it's definitely worth watching the pilot. If you're at all interested in the trailer that's hunters on Amazon prime also Been watching I think. I watched the first two episodes of sex education as recommended to somebody to me as somebody in the discord APP chat. I think it was over on Patriot. We also talked about it at one of my Trivia Nights. Somebody told me that they just finished the first two seasons and they thought it was great so dived into that. And it's really good. I was trying to figure out who the MOM was on the show. I'm like who is this actress. She's like a kate. Winslet type. You know but it wasn't her and I'm like Oh it's who is it and I looked it up and it was Gillian Anderson from the X. files which is crazy. She's like super super thin on this show. She has bleached blond hair and she's a sex therapist so definitely different than what you're used to seeing her in and I looked her up and says she was born in Chicago but she has what they call it. It's something like bipolar but for accents like by accents or something and she's a perfect like American accent and a perfect British accent even though she was born here so. I don't know I didn't read the full article on her but I didn't know that about her. I thought she was just just an American Gal so very interesting to see and listen to on that show sex education go. Check THAT OUT. Very Cool Steph. Here's something if you're watching on Youtube I'll hold this up. This is kind of a cool look and set. This is a board game a choose your own adventure board game very bright. Maybe on that side is better. It's called House of danger and it's based on the book by R a Montgomery and these are cooperative. Adventure game sets by Prospero Hall and it looks like the old choosier in adventure games. I bought this as a raffle prize. Recently we ended up not using it. So maybe I'll give it away on the show. If you are interested in winning that let me know how you'd like to win it. Maybe we'll do some kind of contest or something fun. I also just got new t shirts for my friend Pavel in Canada and he has a new brand called Pizza Jim with a bunch of fun workout pun related stuff on different t shirts. So we're GONNA give those away for something fun as well to all right. We're going to jump into today's episode. It's all about iron man guys iron man from the comic book to the movies. You should have fun. If you're a fan of iron man or an agenda those eleven questions right now here we go all right here. We go with some Ironman Trivia. Remember doing eleven of these in the first eleven are worth one point and the eleventh won. The bonus is worth two points. Let's see how you hold up question number one. What real life billionaire inventor and recluse inspired the life of Tony Stark in the comics question number? One what real life billionaire inventor and recluse inspired the life of Tony Stark in the comics question. One question two. What three letter school did Tony Star graduate from at age? Twenty one with multiple degrees number. Two what three letter school. Tony Stark graduate from at age. Twenty one with multiple degrees question number. Three Mickey Rourke plays what villain in iron man to question number? Three Mickey Rourke plays what villain in iron man to question number four? What does the J. stands for in Jarvis? Which is the J stand for in the acronym Jarvis number four number five pepper potts? His real first name is after which of the original thirteen colonies number five pepper Potts Real? First name is after which of the original thirteen colonies number six? And what decade did iron man? I appear in Marvel comics question number six. In what decade Ironman I appear in Marvel comics number seven who disintegrates into iron man's arms at the end of infinity war number seven. What character disintegrates in iron man's arms at the end of infinity war number seven question number eight? How did Tony Stark's parents die? Number eight hundred Tony Stark's parents unfortunately die number eight question number nine Jon. Favreau plays what character in the Iron Man Films? What is Jon favreau characters name and the Iron Man Films Number Nine question number? Ten iron man has a villain in the comics named Crimson Blank. Fill in the blank. What is the villain's name? Crimson blank from iron man comics and number eleven for two points. What is Tony? Stark's daughter's name in endgame? And what famous line does she deliver to him? Number Eleven for two points. What is Tony? Stark's daughter's name endgame. And what's her famous line from that movie? Those all your questions for the Ironman quiz four today. Hope he had fun playing along. We'll be right back in just a second with the answers. We are back with the answers to Ironman Trivia. Let's see how you did on eleven questions for today's little quiz number one. What real life billionaire inventor and recluse inspired the life of Tony Stark in the comics that would be Mr Howard Hughes number one Howard Hughes of aviator fame played by Leonardo Di? Caprio number two. What three letters schoolday Tony Stark graduate from at age? Twenty one with multiple degrees. That would be m. I T. MIT number three. Mickey Rourke plays what villain in iron man two that was whiplash? She's got those giant electric whips on his arms whiplash at the Monaco Racetrack. That's pretty cool. Like that same was fun in the trailer that came out was like ooh this is going to be a fun villain. And Mickey Rourke was having his big comeback back then the wrestler this movie and Sin City and all that good stuff. Quick little side note. I saw that Tom Cruise was very close to getting the role of Tony Stark. Before Robert Downey junior was locked in so that would have been a very different movie. But I think they would have been pretty good with Tom Cruise. Tom Cruise can kind of pull it off number five pepper. No number four. What does the J. Stand Foreign Jarvis just stands for just another rather very interesting servant? Maybe something like that. If it's not that number five pepper potts is real first. Name is after which of the original thirteen colonies. That would be Virginia and yes I did have to ask. My Wife. Was Virginia. One of the original thirteen colonies. Because you know if you've watched this show if you've listened to it I forget things number. Six in what decade did iron man first appeared in marvel comics that was the sixties nineteen sixties number seven? Who DISINTEGRATES IN IRON? Man's arms at the end of infinity war. That'd be spider man. I don't feel so good Mr Stark. It's not so great. That's not a good impression either number seven spiderman number eight. How did Tony Starts Parents die? That was from Bucky Barnes in a car crash bucky barnes responsible for their car crashing number. Nine Jon favreau plays what character in the IRONMAN films? That's happy Hogan happy. Hogan and number ten iron man has a villain in the comics named Crimson Dynamo Crimson. Dynamo number ten number eleven for two points. What is Tony? Stark's daughters named game. In what famous line does she tell him? It is Morgan and she says I love you. Three thousand which is that Robert. Downey junior kids used to say to him. He wanted to work into the movie. And supposedly all the movies time runtime added up to. That point is exactly three thousand minutes. Who knows if that's true? I'm not add that I just read it and thought it was neat. Those are your answers for today's quiz. I hope you had fun playing along with those guys. That was a fun one to do it. My live events last week. And if you ever WanNa play live trivia with me and go to my website. Trivia WITH BUDS DOT COM. You can play all different nights obviously different nights. But you could play all different venues every night of the week. That's what I'm trying to say. Trivia WITH BUDS DOT COM. It's time for one more question called the funky. Monkey question of the day brought to you by. Fm DESIGNS INC DOT COM. Check Out F. M. Zinc's F. M. DESIGNS INC DOT COM for all. Your Design Needs. What band had an album called? Follow the leader with track one being five seconds of silence. Send Me Your answer on twitter at Ryan. Buds or email Ryan buds gmail.com to be eligible for a prize. Yesterday is questioned. The answer was TLC for the album. Crazy sexy cool and you're trivia team name of the day Bucky Barnes and noble Bucky Barnes and noble. 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Amanza Smith, Saweetie & Mason Morfit?

Who? Weekly

1:01:24 hr | 1 year ago

Amanza Smith, Saweetie & Mason Morfit?

"They WANNA know. Pain. Fame welcome to the podcast where you'll learn everything you need to know about the celebrities you don't. I'm Bobby Finger I'm Lindsey Weber? And Jennifer Aniston is not going to be Katy Perry and Orlando. Bloom's all my God God I. I know that none of these people are. WHO's but this this rumor or this information? Bobby knows it's been played. Like. Oh, you too okay. Good I. Just like what hate it. First of all. Everybody reported it. They were like Katy Perry in Jennifer s and are so close. That Jen is going to be Katie. Godmother and I was like I'm sorry. Since when are these too close not to be like I know them I. Don't know them personally like come on now. Is, the room, a tree that Jennifer Aniston is the God mother. Wow Ron. I know. She texted us because we are friendly with her, and Orlando is one of her good friends. And we were like. Wow, this is. I mean God knows she's you know with her. She's had everything said about her, but I guess this is a fun rumor. But no, we have no idea where it came from, but you know that's that is the product of the media and the Internet. You should definitely believe everything that. Even though. I didn't understand why they were friends. I didn't realize even Katie's explanation is like. I mean we're friendly with her, but Orlando's one of her good friends I was like I didn't even know that, so that's. Than Eighty because these old, all of this reporting was like Katie and Jan are tight as fuck like they love each other, and like she's going to be godmother again, and it was like what first of all again. That's just an the. Narrative is so rude like another. Another year, another Godmother godmother never mother. Yeah like. He's like nine. This is exactly what I want. Clowning me, right? She's like being godmother motherfucking rules. Are you kidding me? My responsibility is zero, but the point is is that. Is just straight up, not true like they. She went on what she went on the Oh God. She went on the Australian Kiss FM. The Jackie Kyle Josiah of course I'll and Jackie O show the other Jackie Oh sorry, but how red pill about the media do you think Jennifer? Aniston is I mean? Think about it. I can't even say the media to her without her lighting on. Genetic talking about the media and I'm not even being rude. I'm like I fully understand why I wouldn't be surprised if she just does not read the news. She just doesn't read anything bright while she read this because she called Katy Perry was like I. AM actually not going to be the Godmother to your child. No fence like I don't know you that well, so i WanNa do this. It's funny to me that like this rumor truly was everywhere. Considering the source was very obviously fake. It was number one at originated in the daily. Mirror in the mirror. And everybody. And the source was anonymous and I'm looking at the story on Vanity Fair Dot com like everyone wrote about this is though we're True Katy Perry reportedly. Jennifer Aniston to be godmother to her daughter. The pair have apparently quote friends for nearly a decade, and they even quote that it's from the mirror, and that it has no sources and yet everywhere I felt like I was being gaslight by this rumor because it kept telling me there have been friends for a decade and I was like they have not been friends for a decade like there's. No way that they both dated John Mayer. They are not been friends for a decade do. Put the map. Do the math do the math get ready to do your map? I heard that the songs smile is about Jennifer Aniston Smile. That's what my anonymous source told me. Okay. Who Breaking News Amanda Amanda Smith. I'm quoting a page. Six headline exclusive selling Sunset Star Amanda Smith suffers third degree, Burns, making Charles. This spoke to me. This is very number one because I like I like selling sunset number two Amanda a number amandas, maybe the best character on selling sunset. This is why I don't deep fry at home. This is why I don't. It's funny because this is the kind of article that you would bookmark and then save for later. In case, anybody brings up frying at home like you would file this under F. for frying at home, and then if somebody was like having a conversation about. It's terribly unsafe and like link them to this it's it's in my anxiety justification expanding accordion folder. printouts of Internet articles frying combat. Who is we have somebody who doesn't watch selling sunset and honestly at this point never will. Who is this woman? And what's her deal? So the great thing. Is that so my friend Lauren we were watching it and she got she was ahead of me in the second season and so I think the second season's maybe eight episodes, and like she was as episode six before was, and she was like correct me if I'm wrong but I, don't think anyone's sold a house this season and I think I was maybe on episode. Four was like I. Don't think anyone sold the house either. There's maybe one or two exceptions to this rule, but this is a show about re. Real estate agents in at one of the most like I don't now in demand. In. Yes, but they go around and they show these like twenty thirty million dollar houses to potential clients, and it's very unclear whether or not the clients are either actors, extras, actual interested buyers or rich people who have no intention of buying the hassle on. Both F not only never know just WANNA television. Yes, so a lot of them are real estate agents like crucial, the one who was born at the shell station by delivered helped helped by the show employ named Chris, but so it's about the agents and the same agents have sort of come through into the second season, but they introduced a couple new characters in. In the second season and one of them is a man's Smith and the thing about Amanda that makes her so likeable and I think why she became a fan. Favourite is because this is why I gave you all that context. She actually has a discernible job and a talent, so she is an interior decorator, so she does the staging and so find you staging. Konak yeah, it's incredible. No, it's incredible, so that was her job, and so she was actually well liked because you could look at Amanda and even though she didn't even make sense within the context of the show was sorta like I. Don't really believe that they need this person to do this. And I believe that they use someone else, and as you as you did the research like she is a model slash actress. She was on deal or no deal just like Queen Megan. With the silly with. Kind unlike the nurture I'm a mother, too. So I have a seven year old son, eight year, old daughter and I'm a room. Parents so when I'm not modeling or doing interior design. I volunteer went school. Yes, she is an interior designer. That is true, but it's like she was fun to watch. Because she had the most interesting history. She was like a single mom she's been. Been married to a football player, but they're divorced, but it was like she was kind of a quote. Unquote like released one. She was the only one maybe that you could sort of relate to. As of you're who is not extremely rich in Los Angeles Oh. Yeah, so I like demands. Manza was great Amanda sort of gotten to a mini fight with them with the woman who's dating Derek. Why Oh Christina, but not one of the real estate women is dating. She's one of the women is dating Eric Mussa and I like my boyfriend, but. She's like he's famous reality. Star on like he has a lot of kids. And before she was on selling, and then joined the cast, or she was already on, she met him between seasons one and two. Years Mussa like went. After the cast of songs on side, he was like this is like real estate agent, ways or hot, and I love home home interiors, or whatever, because that's what he does to. He does flipping arm, and yes, so it's heather and they met at a thing, and so she like nine of them are really looking for a relationship Lindsey, it just sort of happened and she does not like that Amanda Amanda has extremely Johnny. He's so dark. He Soda. What's up, everybody I'm you'll? Mussa and I'm heather, Rayong, and this is the newly dating game. What does the term when you like? Both partners have killing blended family jarring. Releasing Juburi More Adam Sandler yeah. Adam Sandler and Drew Barrymore. She's used to being in a relationship where she has been in a relationship where her partner had other kids, and she had to sort of like be friends that children, and so she was giving heather advice, and had there was like how dare you tell me how to deal with my boyfriend's children? Children they are my partners. Children do not give me motherly advice, and a man's like I'm just literally trying to be your friend. So that made me sort of fall in love with the Manza I appreciate a man's. Unfortunately, she had third degree burns because deep frying oil exploded out of a pan and covered her arm and wrist, which is truly my nightmare. Again I'm telling you frying frank, slash deep, frank for comedy off the off the whatever off the page with your with frying I just I just literally clicked on a link. That's like house beautiful and it's like step aside Tarik El Moussa and Heather Rae, Young's Beach House and you go all the way down. They do like a tour. They talk about the house and the ad says. At the end of April Tarik told People magazine that they're Newport beach. Home is just a rental and the only plan to live there for at least a year. So what so they rented it? But like they did a whole tower? They did a whole article. They did a whole video and then the end. It says it's a rental and notice that she noticed that not to be like all blonde white women look like rolling now. Christina okay. The other thing about a man says that she used to date Taye diggs you day-to-day digs like very briefly, but there's a lot of Muslim together and she. You have to play the clip of Iran deal or no deal. Because she was on both iterations of dealer, no deal she was on the mega, and then she was on the reboot. Which I think was short, lived Ammann's great shot up to the selling sunset heads. She is my favorite person on the show apart from Christine. Who is the literal devil and apparently season three I read an interview with Maya who very said the silence of the lambs the? Christine's wedding will be the focal point of season three. Which I'm into because Lindsey you have not telling Sunset Christine is the literal devil, and she is the most perfect reality villain. I've seen in a very long time although to be I don't watch much reality. Is like what it must be like to talk to me like normally. For a normal person to talk to me. Sorry and it's making me like crazy. Okay, what's next? Okay? I'm sorry. We have a lot of little bits of breaking news one of them is that August Alsina has. Responded to Jada and wills response to August Alsina as first response to the relationship and he released a song called Gordon Tangle moments and guess what eat is a really good song in that is not me being ridiculous. Kingdom. Sweden. Didn't go. Only. which play a little bit, but let me read you some of the lyrics like there. It's actually really good. It was like Rick Ross produced it, so it's like it's good and. So we have this lyric. Listen to this, but it's like he's not a real. Artist the real song you know an influence or WHO's doing music? He's a real artist. the the definition of entanglement is when you're tangled in the sheets girl I know we don't call it. Girl I know that we don't call it a relationship, but you're still fucking with me. entanglements is when you're tangled in the sheets. It's when you're tangled up with me. You're in too deep, and then he says girl you fucking with the young in IB. Doing Shit you like. Don't do talk and when I see you all you here's a love sounds so it's like ric. Did you see she's having a good to my slavery purse? Or is he says caught up in the Matrix. Then she said, and then he said I actually feel I gotta get around. Favorite artists was to park. I know in like mid like literally just about Jada. It's but yeah. Old, but on the fundamentally it's a really good song, which is nice you normally you would expect like a sort of hastily written song. That's a direct response to the item to be sort of Shitty. Even if it's sort of fun in a weird way, this is a good song a real artist. I like I'm not surprised because I feel like he actually is a talented singer, but you're right like because it's such a stunt song. It shouldn't be this good. The daily meals obsessed with Zach Ephron. We've cut this segment so many times, but it is really weird to me and we don't need to. To talk about this in depth, but is really weird to me. How obsessed the Daily Mail is with Zach Ephron moving to Australia? Like almost every single day or or along those lines, there has been an article in Daily Mail. That's like Zach F. Ron is in Australia people. Keep seeing him and the rumor is that he's moving here. Like who gives a shit that Zach Efren wants to move to Australia eat is like a huge thing, and this latest one is even the is the weirdest one, yet which is Zach Ephron is in Australia and his people have confirmed that he's not there for work. WH WHAT! They just really. Desperate daily. Australia is like Zach. Ephron list here. No. Meanwhile, everyone is calling his new body. A Dad Bod and it's like. Daddy Bod I am surprised how he went from looking like Theresa Jude Ice on Housewives Bodybuilder Bod to like I guess he just grew chest hair, and like ate a sandwich. You know we keys. He went from being like scary. Lean muscles in. Baywatch to being kind of broad and more like you're not gonNA help me at all at this something about his muscles, something about his muscles is alarming to me and the fact that he has added like a little more bulk to them like a little more like body fat to the muscles doesn't make it less alarming. It also is funny that people are. Are Watching his Netflix show, which is kind of about like it's about the world like saving the world and climate change, and like how to use water in more eco, friendly ways and all this stuff, and they're just like when you're gonNA, take his shirt off. Take your shirt off. Take your shirt. And then he takes her up and I was like. Zach definitely even though when he's talking about boring things like you know water or whatever he definitely still pulls in an audience. This show is very I. Love Learning about stuff as much as the next person, but I have to say. Hearing Zach Go. Wow like a meeting scientists and just being like well Nice Dude Nice wow do. That is so cool. trip. Let's move on. We were going to talk about Meghan and Tori lanes, but it's sort of like we don't know and I think we talked about it on the Patriot, and as we were talking about it, and even though we left it in show as we were talking about it, it's like such an unfinished story. There's so many questions still like as to what happened with Magnus tallying and Tori lanes that night. We don't know and she just tweeted I. She tweeted yesterday. Black women are so unprotected, and we hold so many things in to protect the feelings of others without considering our own, it might be funny to Y'all on the Internet and just another messy topic for you to talk about this, but this is my life and I'm real life, hurt and traumatized. Will people were joking about it on twitter and I think that's what she's referring to is kind. Kind of the me, mrt of like her pain and pain like she was shot in the foot, she was literally went to the hospital, and to be treated for wounds like in her foot, and like we still don't quite know what exactly happened there like the basic outline of in his like they were in a car. A gun went off. Somebody shot a gun and she got hurt. So like. We, just there's just no. The LAPD has no information like everyone for more information. Nobody's talking etc, etc, so it's like we really don't know what went on and I kind of feel like until we do, it's really hard to talk about because who knows. More probably know about it eventually. But. Let's talk about things we do know about one of the things is is Henry cavill. Assembled a computer while listening to Barry White, or at least heedless, he added the very wide. This is like the sequel to our favorite instagram video made by Henry. cavill well won't well. That was CD. Wonder the thing about this is. I mean not to overuse the joke. It's like if you would have shown me this headline and twenty eighteen. I would have slapped you and call you a bag like just A. Whatever you know. But I guess Henry Cavill in. Has Been under reported or under acknowledged by myself, because the number of people who like got horny on main to Henry. CAVILL building a computer, which honestly wasn't even that horny still. He's like a horny. I find him I love him, but I find him like completely sexless, and even the Times where I found him like attractive and sexy. There's still an element of like of life. Of Michelle Possible sexless nece in a weird way. To, say like he's a drawing, he's a drawing right. Imagine of Thomas Finland like loved drawing all those things, but like he didn't draw the Dick's sure. Right right right right I. Think also the thing about Henry Cavill is. He is really weird and people get a kick out of like his personality, which shines through in the fact that he made a five minute long instagram video where he puts together his own gaming pc like that. That is weird. Weird yet again. These celebrities and their apps like what apted he used to make these titles that are like no the logo pen- sensitive or totally ran out of hard drive space, not really a surprise. Considering this took hours. Hold up what the fuck was that. Yeah, that number is upside down. Where did he get this at that? He clearly did. He did it on his phone. I, don't think it's just movie I. Don't think it's just marrying. Himself on like some of the content. We've been seeing that. It's been ridiculous from. Let's say Jessica chastain who like definitely has a team like in her own. Jessica chastain made her own Fan Cam and everyone was like to views to even comment on it. They were like I'm just going to let Jessica walks the attention that Henry cavill building a computer God. You know also building building your own gaming pc truly is like the nerd, the epitome of like nerd and Geek behavior. You know so for him to be doing this like superman is making his own. Like I get how this clicks for a lot of people, I get it I get him even though he is weird, but it's also sort of like deceptively easy to build. No No. I get a menu. You get a list. You put them together based on how you don't get the argue that you don't get to say that information. La Times only Henry cavill could build a computer and break the Internet at the same time Yahu. I think it was a yahoo lifestyle Henry cavill built a PC and a tank top and I need a glass of water. Except? For of course you want to watch the winters Henry. cavill build a gaming pc I thought. This was funny because they had to define a mess at the winter star. Like of course, because if it said of course, he went to watch Henry cavill build a gaming PC. Someone will be like I do. And then you say the winter, and then you okay okay, and then there's the verge. Because you definitely want to watch Henry. cavill build a gaming pc I thought that was funny because it's sort of like. Cats. And, then there's rock paper shotgun which I never heard of. It's a gaming website watching. Henry Cavill bill gave a heart attack okay. Because they're. Doing it wrong by. A refinery twenty nine says Henry Cavill is breaking the Internet for building computers. Tore Dot. com which is I think? Site let Henry Cavill show you parts you've never seen before. As he assembles this gaming, PC and then tech spot says Henry. CAVILL PC building skills aren't quite superman, because again the tech site and they were sort of like I like that he's I think they were sort of. Glad that he left in his errors, they were like. Oh, he like allows himself to fuck up on camera. That was the part about the whole video which is like that he messes up. It's a five minute long video. I mean this isn't like I built a PC ll, it's like this is a process and I'm like not that good at it like arming. Any plays a sexy song. He plays Right, don't don't yes, there we go. Time watching it. Now I'm. We've got it together. He cuts it off and that's when I do i. do like that I mean there is something sort of there is something sort of charming. It's about any. But I still find him weirdly sexless. No I need. That's why he's so. That's why he's so which I think maybe help us. Harming it's sexiness in a way where like when you say Hubba Hubba. That's the kind of sexiness that this is. Saying how Hubba you know that is Henry Cavill. Say it and re cavill can. Destroy me like legit. You can superman this whole. That's very kind of I. Appreciate your bigger. But. Then hurt yourself. Cath Lab I would let Henry Cavill. Split me in half. I'm just going to say. Thanks, is it? What do people get free time What else do we have? Oh, we have some relationship news and there's a lot of like annoying and really stupid relationship news. Let's start with the good relationship news, which is actually like way too sweet and cute There was a profile cue that was mostly written. I think in February. They said, and then they followed up. They did like the pandemic. Follow up, so of course there's like current context to it but Cueva in sweetie were profiled Jikun. It's like way too sweet and way too good and I think we need to focus on this and the other stuff. We can give this a lot of the time because the other stuff is so bad. This profile is really really good I. I wanNA start with this because I could not believe that they met not just on Instagram, not just like he slid into. His tales oldest time at this point. They met because she showed up on here on his explore page I've never heard also just like I think I wonder if it's random for like people, Friends of friends to show up on explore pages, but obviously 'cause. She's famous like she showed up as an explore like she's. That makes more sense. 'cause like more famous people show up on, explore page or whatever? But I think friends of friends actually can show up easily on explore page. I'm looking at my explore page and I'M GONNA. Gross like Rod ice and like. Celebrities obviously because. Let's see I have to be in a relationship with a celebrity. It's the first celebrity. For the first liberty on your more paid with the person you have to be in a relationship when here? Yeah? Okay got one. Oh, I'm poly-amorous. Zoe Kravitz and Laura dern. We. winning. But mostly mine is like food. It's like mushrooms on toast more mushrooms on toast. Apple slices what a snickers bar, No. Mindset Catherine. Dammit, he news is Zaka Ron. So that's how they met. Who are they? Cuevas and Meka Lazio is in migos. SWEETIES rally for weren't icy girl which was heard. I liked the song that broke her, but then like she has her new song is tap in. Although a lot of people don't like Tappan I really like it, but they're like. Oh, she's changing she. That's not her style like whatever but I like it I like social. She's also pretty new like she didn't graduate until she didn't graduate from college until I. Think She's maybe twenty five twenty six, and so she started on Instagram, which I like very much of her her youth like she's a rapper who? Who got started instagram? Anyone who gets started their career on instagram. It's like wow, you're young I. can it's it's very hard for me to relate to you, but he. She showed up on his explore page. He clicked at and then like because she was putting some of her music on Instagram, Click Click. Your music. It like Oh wow! She's hot and she has like a lot of talent. I'm going to reach out to her and they've been dating ever since then. I would say like they're kind of a super couple like they're. They're it's. They both lift each other like two big stars. Like I think that I think quavos of them, but I'm not sure if Sweden I think sweetie might be a them and Cueva might be. I don't know Migos doesn't and but like. Can you name all the Migos like I used to? I might not be able to I. Don't think I'd yeah, but like. The peak when I could name Migos was like few a year ago or so a few years ago, but Sweetie Quavo Offset I. think Sweetie is bigger than than Cuevas. In a way probably right now. Did you know that she is? Gabriel unions cousin. No I didn't know that. She Has Gabrielle. Union's Cousin Gabrielle. Union was like talking about something wants and an instagram. And she mentioned sweetie and called her like one of my cousins or something and everyone was like. Wait your cousins, Sweetie and she said Yep her father and I are first cousins. Her grandma is my aunt Joanne glass who I based. Eva from deliver us from Yvonne. She based her character on Sweden's. Does we Graham Martin? And also I I remembered this. Do you remember this video of Tracy Ellis Ross realizing she said Sweetie wrong, okay so I have recently been informed that that beautiful lady that was wearing that dress at puffy fiftieth birthday that was hanging off of her luscious body. The her name is sweetie. 'cause you know what I was. So our team. So they did a video also. was that video because they were very very sweet to each other, and like he was singing her first song, and like he knew all the lyrics and were quizzing each other. Can you wrap the first few bars of icing era? Off To. A eight. and. They say I need Venus back. One of. Cancer won't stop. Get what Tim White Toes Montoya flipflops, manicures and pedicures. I'm always tip top on that Sam not how all these lies needs because I'm. By haters WANNA fight me. Never been no longer are peopole. Nope, that's really cute. It's cute, and these videos can go really badly, and it made me think of the the one with Travis Scott and Kylie from a few years ago. That's like. But also, he doesn't really know a lot about her. So. It's like both uncomfortable and sort of cute because they clearly have chemistry, but like Travis said know anything about us, those part of the. Joke about it. What are my dog's name? Mormon. Lady. Lady. Actually. Number! Four you got. A girl prettier like we're for name. And then. Rosy Harley. We're in this one like cuevas everything about her, and if he gets something wrong, he has like the like the meme. Surrounding the conversation about this profile was like these are sweet couples goals like love. These two like we this is, this is so adorable or whatever, and also, if I'm going to read about like couple goals like there's something there's something rare about reading about celebrity relationship, and actually being charmed by it, and like thinking that it's sweet, because so often, the media will be like. Oh My fucking! God Halen Colton underwater dating, and we're fucking shaking y'all and it's like. Why does anyone give a shit about these two? And then you see like Oh sweetie and Quavo did a profile in. Did they and then you read it and it's like Oh. They actually did where it's like where it's like Oh. You Click on Lucy Hale dating the bachelorette's Colton Underwood as pair or spotted on a hike in Los Angeles two months after his split from cassie. Randolph and it's like I. don't even know if my brain is fully functioning after reading that headline like how can I possibly be charmed by it? Okay, I love. You just love that you. Love that you're using these to go through them quickly? Yes, Lucy Hale was spotted on a hike with Colton Underwood I love that this says in a photo obtained by TMZ. The Pretty Little Liars Actress Thirty One and Hunk Colton twenty twenty eight so like after calling him bachelor, she's. Out of things to call him, so it's just like honk. Cares we ended up in noticed. She's an actress and he's a God. That sounds like a netflix Christmas movie than the actress on the Hong. Speaking of Boring Relationship News, this is really we've talked about Andrew Form and Jordana brewster, but like the Daily Mail cannot take the opportunity to like know dump on someone, and and like not like cannot not take the opportunity to up on someone in their time of happiness. 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The pair has been spotted numerous times out in Los Angeles okay. What's next few? We have some fucking feuds today. We have a few different feuds. This I viewed I. Didn't really unless I mean look at who look I. Mean so I guess Mickey Rourke hates Robert Deniro and they have a feud when Mickey Rourke was like relevant to incoherent. To be on equal standing kind of you can't just like be somebody who doesn't matter. WHO's mad at somebody who does Mickey Rourke at one point didn't matter more at least and I think they had a feud. He sort of a WHO now definitely. G. Now. Their feud was from a snub on the set of the nineteen eighty seven film angel heart and the incident, which now I won't click on. was in the page six in two thousand, nine, hundred nine Robert Deniro Mickey Rourke is lying about the Irishman snub. The feud extends back to the nineteen seven psychological thriller. Angel Hardware Rourke Start Opposite Deniro now. Seventy six work, said what when I was in school signed. You being I looked up to him like Marlon Brando Al Pacino, said noting that he introduced himself on. On the set, but immediately he was snubbed by his idol about five minutes later Deniro comes over, and he says I think it's better if we don't talk because of characters in the movie, it's better. Don't say hello, talk or anything wrong at it hurt my feelings 'cause I looked up to. This is the reason this is the pettiest thing I've ever heard had because Deniro was like. Please don't talk to me because of the characters and I don't know what this movies about, but I guess they're not friends. Wrestler added that. They're ripped festered while filming scenes for the Alan Parker film including alleged incident where Works Deniro refuse to be touched by his co star. Okay. You just hate, I. Don't even know this is a feud now I'm like viewed. Well. It's a one way feud, so the reason this is happening is because Mickey Rourke took to instagram couple of days ago and posted an old photo of Robert Deniro I. Think from the movie they were in together and it says Hey Robert De Niro that's right? I'm talking to you the fucking crybaby mind. Just recently. A friend of mine just recently told me that a few months back. You're quoted as saying two. Two newspapers quote Mickey Rourke Celaya. He talks all kinds of shit. Listen Mr Tough guy in the movies. You're the first person that ever call me a liar and it was in the newspaper. Let me tell you something. You punk ass when I see you I. Swear to God on my grandmother on my brother, and all my dogs I'm an embarrass you severely. One Hundred Percent Mickey Rourke as God as my witness. So, Mickey work is essentially threatening. He wants to embarrass Robert Deniro. It's not violence, but it's like something. He's threatening. Something really embarrassing and I think Robert Deniro was probably in his upstate embarrassingly I. Meet, the parents like o'clock the toilet like he'll make it look like Robert De Niro Kloten. Islet, it'll definitely be A. it'll definitely be like a poopie embarrassment. How many of them, too? Bad? Poop the toilet, but then he then you're gonNA. Have to figure out how to fix the toilet. I'm GonNa Tie your shoe laces together when you're sitting. End Up you're GONNA, fall. or at least it'll be so embarrassing. Like what other like what kind of threat is this like? This is a is a very. You know one on one threat. I have to say. Mickey Rourke also like the Cheek of Mickey Rourke, talking about people behaving badly on a movie set. Like isn't every story about the rest are like Mickey. Work didn't do anything Mickey work. It's a nightmare working. Mickey Burke as the words Mickey work is terrible. We Mickey Rourke even resume was like it was a nightmare. Am I wrong about that? I think. She said like it was difficult. Yes, yes. and. He's mad. Because Robert De Niro said I'd rather not talk to you right now. Because this is what Howard characters work the other view, there are two more feuds. The for the worst viewed has mickey versus Bobby 'cause it's barely a feud. The second is a little bit better. It's K. Michelle versus a couple which is funny, because it's one versus two. K. Michelle versus Apple. K. Michelle has come a long way from being like queen of my heart like. The song visa having the best storyline on love and hip hop being iconic till like being so. Rude I cannot be in her. She's so rude. Visa is one of the best songs of the decade, but that does not change the fact. That came missile K. Michelle sort of. Pleasure funny, but just like kind of like wanted. Do say that like relax. You know if she's my friend or she was ruined detail, Mar, she was, and then recently, so she this rapper Baguio. Celebrated his girlfriend's birthday Ari Fleischer money. Baggio used to date Meghan also by the way Celebrated Ariz birthday by buying her Lamborghini and so both parties instagram's Guinea right, you get a gift. He posted. You're like Oh, my God he's like I got my girlfriend this. I got my girlfriend this. Ari Posted Oh my God I love my boyfriend. He says we got me. This Lamborghini came goes on instagram alive, and it's like dumping on them and says that it's rented because Lamborghini one hundred thousand dollars, and he does not have that kind of money off period where money being and about his hundred thousand dollars that they finish showing his bank cal today at seven o'clock why he tried to be picky about some regular when I. Could brand if they and unturned joy style. and. You are one hundred thousand dollars. Rent now now bows. Our land. And so the response from the two of them is that no, no, because the Lamborghini was custom and you cannot rent a custom Lamborghini. You cannot rent. A customized car one. So my car is in my name. Arianna Fletcher Bitch. Don't play with me so now. Everyone's came shell for putting her forgetting in the business of someone else for no reason, there was no reason for K. Michelle to go out here and do this, but as I said. I. Guess We've just sort found that kind of an which out so who are wait we talked about? Can you came? 'cause we talk. We talk about K. Michelle, a lot who are Fletcher and Money Baggio Ari. Fleischer is sort of I. Don't know she's. She has a lot of followers in. In, she's sort of instagram model like party promoter person that sort of thing. She's friends with a lot of other another sort of why she's famous. That's why she gets attention because she's like in the circle of other more famous people money, Baio is a rapper from Memphis. He did a nice thing recently. Did you see this tweet that I found that he donated ten thousand dollars sanitizer in mass to keep the students and staff of a school district in Memphis safe, but the photos really funny, because the superintendent is wearing a mask and money. Baggio is just like. Without a mask. Like come on, he's he's most of the rapper, but he's like kind of like more known for dating magazine Stallion, because like she. They were dating when she kind of was like rising to fame and she had to be like. By like and one time he got into a fight with fifty cent, because fifty cent called her a Ho in like a photo that money back posted of her end of him and Meghan the stallion, not that it was Meghan, Australian in the photo, and so he had to apologize for it how? Dare. That's. Rude the last. Well. Fifty cent is also very rude, so it's funny. THAT MEMPHIS came back. Though so he's from Memphis. I'm sure he called in money. Baggio also is now famous for calling who weekly and saying that Memphis was a city in ancient, Greece. Thank you money back all the drama? And all the people talking Shit and leaving comments again on their platforms to say Shit about me. You won't hear a word back from me, baby! You WanNa. Know why? Because I got something to do i. Man the business that pays me not the fools that watch me mind my business, the last few Haley, Baldwin, versus me Haley Bieber versus a service industry because and I don't know how I feel I mean I, believe these things. I'm willing to believe these things but I guess they should be taken with a grain of salt just. Personally. I worked as a I worked as a server and a big fancy Manhattan restaurant. These are me rating celebrities. I've encountered everyone at ten and it's sort of a funny setup. Reading celebrities I met was hostess. Manhattan Claw One so first half the hood dude sisters, these two are literally so nice I cannot say enough things about them. They're super, polite and friendly with staff, which unfortunately is rare for celebrities ten out of ten. Next Mad Concert Cameron. I kinda bad experience with. His friend caught after we were closed and insisted on table kind of Poland Dino Hawaiian plans for all the time. Except we have Mrs Bieber. He's GonNa be controversial. I've met her a handful of times and every time. She was not nice I really WanNa. To give her like. Five on ten. Next up. We have Kylie. She was fine, but she took twenty dollars on a five hundred dollar dinner bell. Do that information what you will. That's why that's. What shocks me. Why does Haley Haley all the headlines OR NOT TIKTOK win? Like Kylie tipped twenty dollars on a five hundred dollar deal got Haley got headlines because Haley responded. She apologized to it. She apologized so I think maybe in retrospect. Headlines Kylie you're right like that's. That's fucking unacceptable. Because that's like truly the Haley Bieber being not so nice a few times, I gotta say like celebrities. People saying are nice to them. I'm a little bit like I. Give the celebrity little bit of a grain of salt. Because think of how many people they meet every day, unlike imagine being nice to every single people you meet when you meet like thousands. What the point is like I guess if this she'd been to this restaurant like quite a few times was mean every time. Yes, obviously, that is not. Not Great because that's like a pattern of not being very nice, but Kylie Jenner tipping like twenty dollars on a huge bill is is so much worse than that. It's not even about meanness or nice. It's about like you are literally so rich, and if you're going to spend that much at dinner, and you don't have like that's disgraceful. That's disgraceful. If if you if you are a server working in like a fancy restaurant New, Yorker, A. Like the only celebrity story that I really care about is how much the celebrity tips like. That's really all you. Correctly on a five hundred dollar bill then like I. Don't really fucking care. You know like I really don't care you know, don't you? Don't you think like yeah, so it's like it's like. Tell me how much Haley actually tipped on our meal. Because if Haley had tipped badly, she would have said it Tony five hundred one hundred bucks and she tip twenty dollars. Dollars so think about what percentage that is. Yeah, let's do the math. Meanwhile, Carly would never come in on that Kelly would never come out on that, but yeah, but Haley didn't Haley said I'm sorry like a that's just that's not my intention. I'm sorry if I gave you bad vibes, I wanNA know what she tipped and honestly she well, I don't care. Beginning of tips. Here's a tip. I wouldn't fly WIZZ air. Just signed a deal in this economy in this economy, they're paying JEMMA six figures to be the face of budget airline air, as you can imagine a date or knocked out is no good. Thank God for my good friends that we say I'll could've gone sick. Grayson smashed plight could. Go and Trunk Po but Intrude Essex Jason. stowe I am flying to spy. High cow social distance by luckier. Do you think that's a smart choice for them? At of all things that they could do well the Europeans. The Europeans are Charlotte. No like we aren't traveling, but like. So maybe airline has with Gemma Collins as the face of fly. No truly like if I was like ascending the steps to Boorda. Wizar- flight with an I saw Jimmy Collins's face on the like nose of the plane. I'd be like sugar. We're going down like I would not be coming in. I don't know that super. That's playing black. They might have Presario. She says that there's perspective on. A budget European airline has free press echo. They don't even have free seat belts on this flight. I don't mean to be free I pay for the budget process. Go do limit cheap. Like I am luxury, which really is kind of hard thing like luxury like you're paying for every single thing on this airline. You're paying four the peanuts. They're paying for the shoes. I'm wearing their every every article of clothing that I have on on my body when I board I'm paying for it, oh. You're wearing shirts and shorts. You're going to be an extra twenty. Okay. Also wizz air sounds fake this whole thing from the name of the airline to the fact that it's happening in the middle of a pandemic to the mockup of face on the nose. The plane which I think might not even be a mockup. I think it's a full photo of looks like. This is. This is beyond parody. I don't know how to deal with this. How did she makes us? Source told the publication. JEMMA loves going abroad. Someone was air approached her team. It was a no-brainer plus the planes are pink her favorite color. This is the baby. He welcome on baby. Let's go. Don't forget your masks and who wants Echo. There's only one way to travel with air. Enjoy Hot House that. Is. There is no wrong. She spilled wizz air wrong. A Hungarian low cost airline with its head office in Budapest it is. Still if you if you saw this flying through the air if you were an alien and you are in your life. You really. Floating around waiting for someone to spot you and you saw Jim Collins face on a plane flying towards you terrifying. She's out to find you. She's looking, but even as a child. We all remember Leo cartoons. We've UFO's in like guys. These are Oh messages to. All of us and I do believe this lawyer for Mars is definitely you know often look up at the moon. Like again lots of forms recently. I don't know about you, but my breasts get so heavy on a Volvo. Literally aecom belly. Most I know I'd go back. I'd go back to galaxy I'd never going back to Earth. Welcome on. We magic gem doing like a safety like a safety video for them like that I could get on board with I. Don't think Jim Collins participates in safety I. Think she's the person who immediately takes ambient, unlike puts on the face mask asleep the moment she's. Never, actually experienced a full flight. She like doesn't know what airline travel is like. It's like. It's like people who travel where they're like immediately like reclined asleep, and it's like Yeah I love to fly, and it's like yeah, because you're fucking zonked out the moment you sit down another fun thing about Gemma's that. She dumped her off. Boyfriend James Arjun earlier this week over WHATSAPP. Thank God sources say that are. Arch told Gemma. He wanted an open relationship. Like will Smith and his wife Jada reportedly had, but ours later insisted that it wasn't sure. For Jim. What can you imagine Oh my God? Can you imagine being on this plane in every single announcement is Gemma's voice like I would actually fly to experience that the seat belt sign his own. Remain. There's turbulence like the Cam. The marketplace is open if you want. If you want crisps, I don't know. There's no marketplace on these flights. Are you kidding me? We'll become in Fru will become improving aisles. Ed phones their ten quit apiece pace or something. I don't really know what a quid is. I'M GONNA. I'M GONNA get yelled at Ben. Is GonNA listen to this? I'm like text me angrily. He's like your impression is narrow. Very good I claim it's good. Okay speaking of. She wary. Where was she seen? She posted why on Instagram? She's a WHO clean. To. What's Rita Ora up to? Who is this woman? We keep thinking like wow rita. Rita's back Rita's. She's recording new music she's. Coming back to normal like nature healing. Read. Is Coming back and. Here, she is like posing, showing off her toned torso, low rise flares and a rap top as she poses with Cameroon in the sunshine. I feel like this is. Such a return to form for Rita, she's posing in close showing off toned body parts, and like with a random like. Brunell. Who seems like he may be doesn't want to be there I. don't know that Bruno is says my cute cat. Bruno on a daily today. I'm grateful for all you beautiful people that continue to support me. You're welcome. I'm grateful for my family. This weather, my health, my mazing friends and my cute cat Bruno landslide. Bruno, last life that's Bruno. Let me do my Libya that. Bruno is her actual cat I don't know that I've ever seen this cat before, so I'm searching okay. She has talked about this guy. Once cat is named Bruno, and there's an instagram called Rita or Bruno, the cat there was a vanity fair story from two thousand fourteen, where she talks about her favorite things and one of the things her cat Bruno so I stand corrected. I didn't know about this now. Try to race Bruno. Also one of her favorite things in this two thousand fourteen vanity fair article is colgate toothpaste. He's a Bengal. He's Bengals Tatt. He's one of those like he's one of those. That's an expensive. There's there are lots of pictures of This cat on this fan accounts for the cat which is. At a record, the cat. And then also, there's a picture of her in a recording studio. Read Up. Put a mass I I was thinking. Because it's a, it's A. It's an office building and she's in a hallway lined by framed albums, so it's either a music. Click a label or they're recording. Studio is back to work on when you're inside the recording. Studio Rita We know recirculated air is occurs, so that's I think. We're beginning our descent. To. In Day fro into a fro-. I don't actually think that. This airplane fly to airports that I've heard of let me tell you something whiz. There is not flying to an airport. WHO's call signs? I've ever heard of. Their flying into cots walled like where Rita or was staying on vacation. The when it lands on, it's like kind of like the hop skin rambling on trying to figure out where low cost airlines like actually land is like one of the most impossible. Thank you for listening to who weekly call on six one nine? Who then delete questions, comments concerns about the topics we talked about today. Call topics. You'd like to talk about on Friday. What else is there to say falls on instagram and twitter supporters on puttering on dot com slash who weekly for twice-weekly bonus episodes also someone someone quit subscribing to our patron and their exit survey. They said there was too much content. I didn't have time to listen to at all. 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Dirty 1 (Thursday)

Mojo In The Morning

05:34 min | 10 months ago

Dirty 1 (Thursday)

"Hey, it's Mojo in the morning the Kroger are ex savings club powered by good Rx can provide discounts on thousand prescriptions. Members also have access to over hundred common generic prescriptions. Members save up to eighty five percent visit Kroger S C Dot Com ready to start saving with the Kroger. Rx Savings Club. Shannon's dirty on the thirty. All right. We got a scam and just a little bit chant going to do the dirty right now trying to well, Kris Jenner and Courtney. Kardashian, are getting sued for sexual harassment. A security guard named Mark Williams filed a lawsuit against Chris and court claiming he was hired in two thousand, seventeen watts over Chris and her family, and he says, in May of that same year, he became subject to a pattern of unwanted an unwelcome sexual advances and some other harassing misconduct from. Chris Specifically, at first he said, she made comments about his physical appearance massaged his neck shoulder arms and back without his consent caused her hand to rest on his thigh in growing. He said, she would cause her pelvis to rub against his back and or but and he said sometimes she would expose different areas of her body to him Chris and Courtney say this guy is making up stuff. They say he's a disgruntled former employee who fabricated this whole story and their lawyer says the security guard. Outside of Chris's home never even stepped inside to be close enough for these things to Happen Donald Glover Aka. Childish Gambino had a baby during coronavirus. And kept it a secret. Now, this is kind of no surprise to me that we didn't know about it because he keeps his family life incredibly private, but he does have two young sons and now he has a third little guy. He was talking about the birth and he was saying it happened a while ago but he was talking about being in the hospital bed his son has just been born. So He's holding his newborn son watching the George Floyd video. And he said that moment was so weird powerful at the same time because he was experiencing this terrible tragedy and all sorts of feelings associated with the death of George Floyd and then welcoming a new life into the world is one of the happiest moments you could ever experience and he said to further add emotion to that moment his dad had just passed away. So he decided right then in there that he was going to name his new baby boy after. Ena Vada judge approved an eight hundred million dollar settlement between MGM resorts, and it's an and the families of the victims of that deadly mass shooting at the route ninety one country news and saving anniversary of that too I believe so. October the first. Okay. So that was three years ago. Now, MGM resorts will make payouts to the more than four thousand, four hundred relatives and victims of the shooting and remember that suiting tragically took the lives of fifty eight people injured more than like eight hundred and fifty people. It's still considered the deadliest mass shooting in modern US history. R. N. from bt s hanging out with Jimmy Fallon last night talking about the boy bands stream of some day. Hopefully, fingers crossed winning a Grammy Award. Is that even Are Music Award you know any value is to prominence in the musicality of artist. So we all watching grammy wars and we know so doing bts own performance only winning grammys are like awesome going also dream that has naturally grown insiders. Dumb, and lastly, the mask singer returned for its second week of musical performances last night. We saw performances stop. Spoiler don't worry. Right now, spoiler kit crazy. Almost I was going to give. Go ahead, spoiler alert I. AM going to say struggling about the mass singer who went home last night while she's going to talk about the math singer in general because people get a little crazy over there. So, we saw the crocodile baby only in the sea wars west him apolo the. This was the Gremlin singing last night. After the GREMLIN perfume. He decided he was just GonNa take off his mask and eliminate himself right they're. Not, even he wanted to be on the mask Zinger. Guesses I don't know. He's got an interesting voice asking me raspy a little bit older. Actor is who? Can. Give me a clue another older actor raspy voice. Crazy hair. What's his name from Seinfeld Kramer from Seinfeld? Who? Future. No no, it's nine. o'clock. Mickey Rourke. How am I gonNa Guess I couldn't pick Mickey Rourke on a fricken lineup for guy says. Just like. Oh my God Mickey. I thought you were dead Mickey. For All of today's dirty check out the dirty page on Mojo with winning DOT COM.

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202. Feature Presentation - The Wrestler (2008)

Midnight Double Feature - A Film Podcast

2:43:52 hr | 9 months ago

202. Feature Presentation - The Wrestler (2008)

"Aging wrestler randy the ram robinson is long past his prime the still ready and raring to go on the pro wrestling circuit after a particularly brutal beating. Randy hangs up his tight and pursues series relationship with along and the two stripper the also tries to reconnect with his estranged daughter. But he can't resist the lure of the ring and readies himself for comeback. Welcome to another feature. Presentation idea will feature and on this episode. we'll be covering two thousand eight. The wrestler direct by darren offs call. And you're ready to talk about some wrassling ally an apostrophe. No i like. I am ready to talk about. This movie that uses wrestling like rocky uses like boxing. Yes absolutely and like that's that's hanging are a good thing by the way cards on the table. Fucking love this yeah. It's great like you know this was this and this was the first for us law right like this. Is i think a first time for breadth of us watching this movie now. I have seen this once. A longtime ago vega fair enough. This is my time watching the movie and man like i was like i wasn't i wasn't hesitant to kind of come into it. I just. I don't know. I just didn't watch it. Never got around to it. But yeah i fucking love this movie. But that's how you know it's a good movie because it uses like its subject matter as a crutch to tell a bigger story and yet man like we'll get into that and a whole lot more guys. Thank you so much for joining us. Here may not feature we head covering of the rest. La directed by darren aronovski. And ma'am i cannot wait to talk about this movie. I caused them stable again. I did not choose this movie because one of our listeners. Really really combining for us to cover this. I did not. That's not what. I don't want to set a precedent. That's not why is it. This was this is always kind of being. Just one of those movies. That i've always wanted to watch and honestly the podcast is so good in that way in that it it really pushes me to kinda like step out of my comforts iron and watch movies that i wouldn't ordinarily watch and this is one hundred percent one of those movies. I think down are no skis. A fantastic director. i like. Hey dude you need to watch mother. If you haven't seen mother like it is incredibly underrated. It's i think of couple of times before is a metaphor of the movie. Like like you can get. I don't wanna. I don't wanna spoil it or anything like that. That's a javier bardem What's her name jennifer round. Yeah yeah but i mean my i dream. I mean fucking horrifying horrifying movie. Yeah he's he's a town director and no no. I was a bit of a misfire. But what can you. He's got the captain morgan again. Well bravo media for this one forever. Reminding me that it's fucking midday guys. We're ready to get into this but plays plays plays support. The show and keep the lots on here may not head to patriot. Dot com forward slash. May not if you are not already a member of the green room where you can get access to burn his content Cullen i we recorded reservoir dogs. We have coming up very soon. We've got movies like the mummy. On number right jason house of wax. And you know like these are really tough movies to sell your parts bait on but hey reservoir. Dogs is common story. I had to patch dot com for That's pat reo n. dot com slash may not feature and head to our facebook to the body to come a pot of the conversation. scholley I'm one hundred sensual that when this episode drops they will be some what of a conversation between now After body members Head over there to be conversation man. Let's get into this talks about what your initial impressions. Where maybe when i watched it and i guess is kind of run me through. If you have any experience with wrestling prior wrestling or watching part wrestling yeah honing alcohol zoom shit. So yeah no i As far as actual wrestling goes yeah. I mean we. My brother really liked it a lot up. I fucking hated it. Even as a kid i fucking hated it. I just didn't like it. And i was like this is i. I liked boxing. Like i like shit like that like that with school. But i just didn't like wrestling. And it was half the time of him taking me to the trampoline and fucking choke slamming me and shed and i was never able to do any moves on him because i didn't care and didn't like to do it but it was so easy for editing moves on me and i fucking hate this goddamn and you know but the figures i knew a lot of wrestlers growing up. You know. Bret the hitman. Hart owen wilson The i'll fuck The big show and ramos mysterious and owen wilson. No hard sorry breath. I said bret the hitman hard and then his brother is owen. Hart mealy said oh. I'm like you fucking serious. Never be bracco guys i. I'm not okay with this like one of the and brothers wrestling. wow but But now it was bret the hitman hart and his brother owen hart and his brother owen. Hart fucking died doing that. Shit he something. He fell from really high up. I don't know all the. I'm sure. Patrick eric talk circles around me but he fell for high up in a certain way died. I don't know exactly what happened. But i grew up watching stuff. Like when hulk hogan behaved like mr america. And there was like vincent van are vince. Vince mcmahon and the undertaker when brock listener was really big Eddie guerrero Crispin walk but a lot of these guys it's kind of nuts like oh and heartfelt who his death eddie. Guerrero died crispin wall killed. His whole family died like it's breathing. Razi shut the tap and Which is why. There's a great show called dark side of the ring but there's also really cool. Look at someone like johnson and how much make a wish that he's not you know there's also a really positive side all that as well And it also dwayne johnson ron right batista. It gives you. It gives you a lot of people that are now breaking out. Because i mean that's the thing with wrestling is that it's you know you have to be an insane physical good shape but also you have to be somewhat of a good actor you know. Don't have to be amazing. But you know i'm sure that the the dave teesta that was wrestling was not to save dame david teesta runner twenty forty nine. That's different guy you know. And it's the same different guy and garden galaxy But yeah i definitely grew up with it in the house. And i just i fucking hated it. I didn't like it I i was always more of like a boxing fan itself. But i understand like why kids like it and you know i guess i just don't understand why grown men would still appreciate it now. I'm just kidding Now there's there's a lot of stuff where like i get it the the i think that debate is wrestling. Fake as it's like dude. If someone is arguing that with you you just gotta walk away like it's not real it's it's entertainment is scripted entertainment but still people still die people can still still get very look fucking mick foley who played mankind. That guy has been through the that guy might as well have been jim. Caviezel stunt double and passion of the christ. He has been through the fuck and ringer doing his wrestling. So i definitely grew up within. I definitely have like a history a little bit. Who doesn't know andre the giant hulk hogan and ultimate warrior and stuff like that. But you know when it came to watching this. This movie is so fucking not about wrestling. You know there's just it's not. It's this this could be a guy who's a professional ice skater. This could be a guy who's a professional juggler. Or someone who's a great ventriloquist you know and it's you could be about but there's also something about wrestling where it's like the fit. It has to be wrestling because the physical the physical complications of it in. It's not something where like a lot of wrestlers. Don't you know a lot of wrestlers. Don't hit pro. And don't get to retire like johnson. Dave batista south. So you kinda get to see the other side of that of like these people who are still trying to make an still trying to break through I heard that. I think carlos and africa he said this was going to be in black swan. We're going to be a thing together like item. Yeah i haven't seen black swan. Black swan is outstanding. It might be my favorite movie of his seen two hours of it but the only twelve minutes of it for two hours of time. Oh yeah yeah. I'm not exactly what you're talking about. But apparently in aaron off-key is kind of like mind. He had the act up type. Natalie portman character Who was a dancer in black swan. And mickey rox character who obviously has wrestler in this kind of like a couple Darnall ski was like look. I don't think that i'm going to be able to the world of ballet dancing justice and the world of wrestling justice in one movie so he just kind of split them up. I think it works. Honestly it's kind of like it's such a good double facial like in terms of he may this in two thousand and he made black swan. I think was twenty ten like right off road and it's just like holy shit did like what a great one two punch for director. It's it makes me so sad that he was this close to doing like batman. You're one like darren aussies. Batman like come on dude he was supposed to do. The wolverine came very close. Oh jah because that was james mangles. I swing it that right right. Yeah yeah the one that the one where he goes to japan that was that was only once i haven't seen and i've heard it's better than i give it credit for i should check it out At least got him to do. Logan so cool fucking awesome like i will. I will watch x men origins x men origins twenty four hours straight. If i watch. Logan wants it's cool. I'll take it absolutely did ask. But i you know i. I really love this. He's a he's you know what what which one of us has not felt in some way shape form or fashion. You know about something like this in our lives who who of us has an. Haven't you know man. You're doing a podcast again. Like yeah i know. Dude i'm sorry you know blah blah. I'm an you know you're going to go work out again. Like all you're doing video games like which one of us has not had something. We're you know we're we're this into it. But he is such a great character. Dude he so nice and that's the thing is like you see you would wanna like kinda hang out with this guy but then you realize you're like man you're so cool to hang around with like drink a beer but i might not give you the money you know. I don't know you kinda sketch out a little bit. Like it's a guy he thinks real cool when you're like twelve and you wake up and you're like oh man he used to fucking like beat his wife and he left kids. And it's fucking sucks. There's people like sending lives. You think are so cool when you're a kid and when you're up you're like i kind of a piece of shit you know but The yeah you know obviously a lot of personal stuff at home but still a really nice guy. He's hines his fans. He super down to earth. He doesn't he's not this big headed fucking star. You know and it's like man. I fucking sleep in a van. If i can't get into my trailer humble. I love that about this character and he so nice heyman hanging in there. You got a lot of talent. You got a lot of ability. And it's like god you just so fucking nice man and it makes us supporter support us. Yes and it makes you the things that he's doing to himself but he would never do that to another human being he would never put another human being through that intentionally you know except for his daughter apparently But yeah the there's something so tragic about the if this were a guy who's just a fucking piece of shit. We really wouldn't care about that as much because he is so nice. We want to see him succeed. We wanted to see him take that curve and unfortunately it's just it's this movie is just an epic sad bastard tragedy and i love it. I think it's so great It's low but six million dollar budget. You know i. I think he got nominated for the oscar. And so did miss. Marie saotome ed. Yeah and therein like evan. Rachel wouldn't resume her. Like i feel like fleeting glimpses in this like he is just so up in up in front of all looming but yes but the little bit that they're they're they own and they do they do really really really really excellent job and i think we all have like met or no people like this. That had that one moment. That like i feel like he is the wrestling why he's not as bad but i feel like he's almost a wrestling equivalent of like dickie. Excellent from the fighter. Like i knocked sugar ray nocco trigger. And you're like no not really. This guy is a lot nicer than that guy like. It's similar but not not exac. So i i just think there's something really compelling so sweet about him that i just love but there's also something so tragic and just and so sad about the whole about the whole situation And what What a metaphor for mickie works career. You know what a metaphor for this guy who was just everywhere in the eighties and nineties and then had a fucking total comeback iron man and the wrestler any not a total. I haven't seen already j. or something but yeah yeah he's come back into the fold of shit we're like he is a a household name. You know he didn't really just like the he was actually a boxer. Mickey rourke was a legit boxer or one point. that's why his face looks like hamburg. Made the dude. Yeah we had fuck this shit up doing classic surgery and stuff and it was like why man he's such a handsome angel heart. What a handsome son of a bitch dude. But then you also watch it. And your do this guy's marv. This is the same guy that played mar. I don't think so and you're like there's no way So i i really really love him. This movie i. I think he does such a fantastic job. Kudos i mean if he's got a stunt man i can't tell the fucking difference that has definitely him in there. Ninety percent of the time. I would argue. I put money on that This is fantastic. Movie i'm glad you picked it. I'm glad you know we've covered. Fifty percent of what patrick harrington will call his demands And i'm actually. I'm really excited to be covering this. And whatever we inevitably do read on now but it's like a. It's like a terrorist hostage situation right like it's like jesus christ metric this guy place man. Yeah i i was. I was on my list for while now Well before we did two hundred with duct to the future i was like man i wanna. I wanna get the wrestler on that. Because i i've been wanting to watch this for a very long time and patrick i'm kind of posting was is like all right time to fucking pull my finger out and just watch it and man this movie. I'm a grown man and it nearly brockway. It is heartbreaking and you can feel just like a sense of dread throughout the movie. Because you know it's not going to end well like you know you know you just have a feeling and it's just the amount of shit that's piling up against this guy just what he has to do like how hadi's trying to fix it you know after you get the dog this is like oh shit all right look look i gotta work. The delhi gonna to work longer hours. Hey i like working the delhi. So i'm going to quit wrestling. It just doesn't work out that way. Man i it it. It's really heartbreaking movie about doing something so long and not knowing how to do anything else and about that is true about Mickey rooks character and marissa's ms marissa's characters walking around in the strip club and trying to get clients and she's getting old. It's her body. That's kind of failing like it's literally just inevitable. Yeah same with make your character. It's his body. His body's just not be able to keep up with his I guess pursuit. And it's just. It's kind of heartbreaking that way that we do what we love and what we good at forever. And i'd like that. That whole element of it is just so bent like that. That really rice maha everything that we do is inevitably going to going to end. And these are the stories that i just absolutely love until to like you. Know whether it's whether it's brooks in Old man brooks who just is in prison facility long it becomes institutionalized and when he goes out into the real world he's just not. He's like a puzzle pace that just con- fit into the rest of the board in our little world and got itself in a big damn hurry. That's one of the saddest lines of that whole movie. Dude can't watch brooks's parts so sad. Yeah that whole like ten fifteen minute aside. That movie does and it. Just kinda goes down a rabbit hole and just shows us brooks outside. Yeah i it's it's heartbreaking. This really reminded me of that like that. This is brooks kind of like saying except expanded. Or sheriff ed. Tom bell right like from from my country for old men who was just like i like. I'm too old for this. Like i don't understand the world anymore. It's i love these kinds of characters in movies like you're just kind of like look at the world and look at themselves and like i recognize in myself that i am outdated like right like things are changing especially you know when when when randy's on implies via guy with this kid and the kid all he's talking about is call of duty feel like it's just like the progression it's very jerry king from the world's end like still has the sisters ashi shirt and the tape to dragons and you're like yeast dude like come on i. I had to be careful. I will become this. I if i'm not careful like in this podcast. This person has this. Podcast helped me break being at first and like hey macho squad. And it's i did you've got to let go like you've got you've got eventually branch out a little bit. You can't just put all your eggs into one basket. Yeah you're totally right on the money. This is just one of those things that i think is prevalent in society right now. Right we all kind of like fantasize That moustapha right. I mean like nostalgia a huge huge thing that we all kind of like look at and kind of like prop up you know if we want star wars. We one old cactus to come in from your in you initiate right. If we wanted mandalorian people always expecting. Oh shit wanna win. They're gonna bring in an old character and it's just like man like ecomog going let guard like you know you just gotta gotta move on you gotta move on my my history with wrestling is pre senility yours. Actually i. didn't i didn't hate it. I think i was just kind of indifferent. I had causign. Who was very interesting. When i was young and my brother was very interesting. So i kind of like a took everything in moses There was a wrestling game. That my brother and i loved it was on the original. Xbox called wrestlemania twenty one men was a fucking funded fun like my brother would just like we. We'd always play like a tail. Say match like tables ladders and chairs and just talk shit out of each other with chess. Fucking gripe we. We always played a wcw in wwl unin sixty four and i love that because you can do tag team matches and run it with baseball bats and stuff. It's so funny. Because yeah i didn't. I hated watching wrestling. Loved playing games with so much fun. Absolutely like hell elder you. Just fucking jump from the top of the fucking cage to the bottom like you know. It's fucking ludicrous. But it's so fine. And i always used to the bras and panties match in sacred on our truck trish stratus like sable china china my god. We also had some days as well. My brother had like saba sunday. And like yeah i know right oh different. Dvd's okay. but man. I i hey i used to check it to the davis man with fucking hot. No they're they're trish. Stratus was the win. When i was like for a brief moment the coin bay grade and dude and hats off like if i if somebody asked me like who is one wrestler that you really really still respect and you think would just kind of left it all out there and did every like ramos stereo. I love mysterious. I think that god has six hundred nine. Yeah there's not a lot of people like white everybody says big juggernaut and he's this little fast like and like man. That guy's an acrobat. It's incredible say for me My wrestle was cain. Because i just love that maas back in the day off. It's like it's like really mysterious. Red and black mas and then his brother was the undertaker her came back from the dead. And then you had like the classics like starting calls dave allston. You had could angle. Basil are just like these are just like guys though. It's like man like they feel larger than life. And i get it like i kind of understand. Why adults like now our age. Maybe a bit older still love this stuff because it again phase back into the salvatore we all these legends growing up and it's just like it became kind of infused in like how like what love what we love watching Yeah i'd like i. I totally understand why people like wrestling like i'm not you know it's just not for me in particular but i i dig it like i dig the the fact that it's fiction but also that these people are actually really you know they need to execute face of athleticism right so they actually need to fly in collide with each other like you know all while staying in character and that is not easy to do like like. It's just. there is a level of skill. that's here and i didn't for the longest time i didn't understand that and kind of like fucking wrestling. It's all fake. But i think the better word to use this fiction right if we watch star wars. We don't call it fake we call it fiction because you kind of like made things up like but you still executing some some level of realism. That requires some skill. But yeah man like this was an absolutely outstanding movie. I this is. This is the first for the. Podcasts was kind of like a baba duke situation for me. I'd never seen the baba dog before. Though the podcasts julie and on that episode dude i ended up giving the baba like a tab this tab and i think i'm on that fucking level with this movie i cannot find a single floor in this movie. I think a little bit. Maybe evan rachel wood is acting a lot like she is acting a lot like when she needs to break down. Shame breaks down hard. And i love evan rachel wood. I'm a big fan of westworld so like i. It was just yeah. I don't know it was a little too much for me. But i mean like man. Mickey rourke he didn't win the oscar for this and i. I'm going to look up on the australian thousand because it is suppose ledger. Where's that oh nine. Oh yeah well. Legend wants supporting. Oh that's right. that's right. Yeah i wonder thousand eight now. There wouldn't have been no country for old man. That was oh five. And i really trying to think. Let me have a look. I'll i'll have a look. Just this is gonna be a snub and i'm gonna be pissed. Yeah i feel like that's her new off jeopardy's theme song to me sad recipes all extra back but he so best actor. Oh sean penn for milk okay. That's a damn good mood. i don't i don't think it's better than the wrestler but i i actually think we just talked about milk on the last episode. I swear to god. I mean we just talk that. Yeah because what we're talking about crispin yes and it is a great movie. I do love josh. Brolin james franco. It's fantastic but it's not as good as the wrestler. It's definitely not. It's been ten years. Probably i've seen it and i own it and i love it but it is still not as good as still gotta watch her. This is this is very good. This is amazing and can we talk about mercer time. I was not expecting to see hatay as in this not even side boob not even profile. It's just like bam like it's like right. They're here here. It is like his his all of my bits man term as as just german george george costanza spinning just about to say i was supposed to take personal domain token love of dude. Love him but yeah. I just watched ever since the seinfeld to become a moped me too but man like this is an outstanding movie. Everyone is on the game including aronovski. I love the southern about this movie. That feels sorry tactile and rail to me like just the way films. A lot of it is kind of hand held. It's grainy film like it's not really cleaned up digital like like like films talking to you know what i mean like. It's it feels very middle america. Low budget yeah. This definitely feels like a six million dollar movie. You know the thing that helps is like from what i was reading and i don't know how you know i verified any of this but you know any polls the razor out and actually cuts like. That's really like that's mickey. Rourke it right okay. But it's it's shit like that that really like when you look and you're like oh i can spot the stunt double it kind of takes you out you know when you learn the things. Mickey rourke is doing. You're like that really helped sell this. This movie It really helps sell a lot of this stuff that that that's really the fact that this movie it has like what ten fifteen minutes of actual wrestling in it. And you're like dude. I am so i. This is the most i've ever been in my life. This unlike fucking rocky three with hulk hogan had more wrestling in it than than this fucking. But yeah i'm fucking pompton. Let's jump into this shit. Yeah let's jump into. I just wanted to mention something sir. Fuck hetero mentioned this other like formula one racing. But i love rush like you know like it's kind of like that situation like a game four rush game. Oh that's nice but also couple of little facts. Nicholas cage was very close to securing the role as randy. The ram man. That is the he actually went to arrest. Rexel wrestling messages for for research. Then eventually dropped out and dan orlovsky always wanted. Mickey rourke apparently for the role hoc hargin actually said. I was up for the role of mickey role For for randy the ram and aronovski. Just come out and it was like all right. I think hulk hogan also said he was offered like highlander. And i'm like okay no like you're you couldn't hold down an mtv fucking reality show and stopping your sex tape from getting out. Don't act like you're gonna be fucking duncan macleod. And that's like don't there can be only one brother one brother. I'm beginning at world pain. Like i'm gonna break you. But yeah now that that was that's like laughable you know and i get it getting a former wrestler you know but but getting a former wrestler. I think just a little bit too. Then people are going to not augur only you know and it's like this. Is you get somebody. Who mickey rourke has a face like a wrestler. He was a boxer his career kind of took a nosedive. But he's the perfect choice for this. I mean literally. I think i cannot really picture anybody else in the. I'm sure you could sub somebody out and it would be good but i. I really don't think you could sell out any of the three like leads. I do not want to say the rock in this movie. Like i feel like there's something something about mickey rourke in this movie that just he really wears the whole i am weathered and beaten and broken put aright okay cape doing this you night rice. He plays it. sorry well Apparently mickey rourke ulcer when he took the when he took the script he headed the dialogue and All of his dialogue for him dude. That is that's cool. That is awesome. What do you think of him as ivan ivan lonzo in iran too. I need this was gonna come up eventually. Like a pot of is like i guess. Mccown issan but man. I thought it was good like the russian accent aside. I think he's a good foil. I think that maybe gets a lotta shit because it kind of sets up a lot for vendors but yeah yeah i think him especially when he's out on the right track and monitored he's like talking about us it's it's hard when you're when you're the the danny devito's pink win to your michelle pfeiffer. Scat woman is justin hammer. And it's like man that guy steals the show in that movie a lot but There are incredible there are moments where he is so terrifying an ironman too and he gets him on the phone. He's okay you sound pretty good for a dead guy. He's you'll do. And i'm like oh fuck like like. That's fucking terrifying that. I remember watching at the movies. I was eight years old. And i was like that is fucking if you can. God bless like holy. We'll show people the possibilities that this person has kinks in her armor. And i'm like cool. I fucking dig them. And i i was blood in the water and the gum. I hate the whole like when your dad was the other side of that coin. Fuck all this shit. I hate it. I absolutely hate all of that. If i just man they problematic they could've streamlined. A lot of shit for arm into but anyways. Let's into this movie which we a covering. Which is i'm too so we started off at the stock s fire patrick's made wedding silo fucking wrestling Let's get into this dude. I love how it starts with the golden line. Venice award-winning ally guy. Like that's not pretentious. At all right yeah. That's pretty cool. That's pretty cool. I mean like the venice film festival is obviously this huge. The film festival and a super prestigious jerko won the golden line for Basically best picture at the venezuelan vessel. Sorry okay pretty cold at this won best picture at venice Which is a movie about wrestling. And you wouldn't expect the critics say something like this but it isn't aronovski film and i think that that name has a lot of white in those circles so this extended title sequence showcasing the history of randy the ram robinson. It's all sensationalize. Rod can hear the cheering in the background and he's had a great run and this is i. It's funny to me. Because i feel like this is hell. He would remember it like all this sharing all this like it all keeps him. This is what keeps him going in. This one feels him now. Yeah one hundred percent. I definitely dig that. It's the you know. What is she what is she. What is a still Specter's say in watchmen where she's like you know i it was. I get older the past. Even the grimy parts look brighter and brighter. And i'm like yeah. I mean so his golden moment shine like crazy you know even even even the ones. Aren't that great still are better than what he's going to. Now a love black you just fade in and before you see anything at all. You just hit a coughing. I right yeah. There's no there's no visuals or anything it's just and it's just like oh fuck leading up to. I couldn't shake it in my head once. I put him and dog the bounty on it. Together On say this now. Oh nice dog. The betting on. I'm seeing as i was going for more of a vigo the carpathian kind of look but i hundred know that is actually way more like those dudes rocking you know like a goatee or something. Like yeah i i can. I can definitely see that for is not happy about is cut in the manager. Says i was sure the gate will be bigger already saying kind of how the world is affecting. This guy is doing it tough now. I this is something that i was really interested in because wrestling to me. I feel like had its hay day back when we were growing up like back when in terms of like when when randy was kind of like in the story like a thing where i don't think it's as big of a thing now like i guarantee you. It's so makes a shit load of money. So i looked it up those this assuming mrs set in two thousand and So apparently the live. Attendance figure for prior wrestling figures have been dropping and i looked at a survey by the sportster dot com specifically for wwe based on the results for four from four hundred. Seventeen adults eighteen old. The numbers only showed that thirty percent of the viewers sold. The product was too cartoonish twain on dissent. Didn't didn't think the storylines were interesting. Another twenty eight percent didn't like the characters like apparently but i mean look as a twenty nineteen. Wwe generated over seven hundred million dollars. Like juggernaut i feel like he's thing it pitches and wayne's you know it goes up and down but here's my thing i think would the introduction and the like just how popular the usa's becoming. I think that's definitely had an impact on prime wrestling. Like exciting as usa is more of a vicious and brutal. And actual i guess rail like match match ups right exactly so you know i. It's it's interesting. And i wonder if that's a contributing factor given the decline burt article. I definitely could same thing with boxing. I think boxing you just kind of you know you've got pack yell and mayweather you know but i i couldn't you know i could name you off you know who's the tyson or who's like the evanger holyfield or that lennox lewis of like now. I really couldn't tell you. But yeah i feel like a ghost because when i was in middle school you know when i was two thousand and two thousand three You know it. It just felt absolutely huge. But now you know in the south it is huge. Wrestling is huge thing like they have local wrestling around here like they go to the vfw. Put up matt mike. There's people who wrestlers and stuff a lot of people go they just want to hang out and drink a beer and it's just something to do. It's cheap you know it's it's crazy. Yeah but i it's it's definitely it's hard for me to tell because the It has always been something absolutely massive. Here you go you go to walmart. There's the marvel of injuries and right across the aisle is like undertaker hulk hogan like you know all them are action. Figures like very very very popular. I mean come on. It's the south. Don't be shocked but you know. I'm not i'm not. I'm not lying when i say that. Yeah i mean like if you walked into a department so you would still find action. Figures like wrestling action figures. It's the thing people still buy them kids. So by it's i think. And maybe because. I'm sorry i just had ferment. I i have a feeling that it's declined a lot since when we were growing up elliott thousands. But i'm not one hundred percents. Yeah all right. Let's let's look at it as he walks outside and encounters one of the things that keeps going ride. The fans as these guys ostrich photograph autograph. Did you notice that. He's got his own action figure on the dash of his car. Wow well it is driving a ram we get it. Yeah very very funny. We'll also the fucking song is so heavy. You don't know what you tell. It's gone and i was like okay. Come on now. There's lamont yeah. He goes back to his trial which he finds his all locked up. I love the way that this is by the way right. It's mostly from behind the hand held camera and it kind of feels like how you would feel if you had a hangover of had a high. His he's been on a high while he's been wrestling and like you know hanging out the wrestlers and he comes home to reality and now it's just kind of like shaky cam like it's just unfocused and man like talk about using your cinematography and photography to illicit feelings for me. I was like god. I was just three times for the podcast by the way three days. I definitely got the feeling of like the high has worn off and your body is now out. It's like when you get into a fight and like after the fight is over. Your stomach is like you feel like you're going to throw up. It's like okay now now. The shock is setting in of what. I've just done exactly. I mean like he takes his meds and has a slate in this car because he's been affected and i just wanted to point out the undecideds school like is he kicks as he looks at the old photos of the on the wall of his truck and business quite clearly. The first hobbies slept here the first time he's been visited. There's a lot of storytelling here any few minutes. That's really really fantastic. He's super charming. Would these kids look up to him. Love this dude loved it. Oh man this is so good. Yeah talk to me like it's fucking it's gret. Well here's something that was really interesting to me. Because in two thousand fifteen us older prices for the wrestler and although i'm not a fan of the wrestler i knew darn aronovski was as a fifteen year old. Even because i'd seen requiem for a dream. I mean come on a double dildo that maybe like jennifer connelly those two like this. I always share that randy in that movie in this movie. Was this kind of also you know like he's this big giant like junk looking guy and lie was kind of like a little flawed that he is super super kind and caring and a bit of fucking sway dot. No yeah. it's a double sided coin. Because it's like he's a fucking asshole to his immediate family and will ditch any responsibility that get in the way of him actually succeeding and what he wants to do but when he is in that element and he is around the things that he wants to do duties gold. He he is. He's he's such a nice guy Yeah there's something about that like especially with the kids coming out. It feels like the fighter it feels like watching mark wahlberg and christian. Bale go down the street and you know they're giving people hugs and stuff and again. That's what it feels like feel like just a local boy we're going to the final on demand a fucking love that maybe me to fucking incredible. So he plays with this guy. Lenny refuses to help him do your replies one. I mean from what we talked about. He's breaking bad he's T te'o i came here. What is examining is yeah. He played hector salamanca. It's a mark mullis. his in ventura. Yeah right and he was in my daredevil. And i was like what the fuck only popped up and we cover daredevil bitch crazy too crazy and again it's clearly. This isn't the first been a victim. He owes his boss wayne for more hours. I'm gonna let you rip into wine wayne. Looks like he likes to lane a bath tub and let other people pee on him. I said neil the same. I said i said this. Guy guys after every shifted my to a fucking caravan by himself and he fucking order or order at himself yes he. He does the same way david. Karen date kirk harding right. Yelling michael hutchence from an excess pulls mike now. Yeah there's something about like you know. I never took a risk criticize everyone else who ever did. I was born in this town. I'll die in this town. And i'll never take a risk and i'll fuck this leave on my favorite jacket for the next twenty years like i have for the past twenty years like god. I hate you know. That's what sucks is when you're working in an environment like this or working in a lot of grocery stores and there were always a lot of people that like. You're in a band you do a podcast and i'm like oh what do you go home and do fucking watch tv and it's like there's nothing wrong with going home and watching tv. But i want something else out of that. I've got a hobby. Like i wanna do something else. I hated hated hated. Hated working with people who are just like that guy goes home and like collects action figures or build models. And he's like forty might who gives a fuck like the twenty likes to do like leave them alone. I gotta eat that shed man. Because i have gotten that look so many times. What your podcast about. I'm like don't fucking maury about it. Don't even worry about it. I had paid her mater. I i had a guy. I work in an office and i was talking to a friend of mine and she was like hey. How's your podcast going on. She sat right next to me. Really sweet girl really really nice and i was talking about and one of our managers and this guy has always been an asshole just like jumped up and was like. Oh yeah you know. I do a movie podcast for this guy from new zealand and the next goes. It's australia and i was like oh shit. She looked at this. Fuck you from australia. And i was like oh cool. Thanks like but that was kind of like dude. I may have mentioned this a couple of times. You know and. I'm proud of the fact that i do want this guy zealand. I'm not most. Is that like somebody saying. I'm from arc. That's somebody saying. I'm from arkansas. Head fucking does well to be fair. Fiji indian new zealand boat. Whatever but no yeah. That's what absolutely killed me was just like hey who the fuck was talking to you anyways but be like. Oh what do you go home and do drink every night and watch burn burn yourself out on net flicks at least go almond fucking. Do something i love. you know So yeah that. This really struck a very sour like blistering swollen nerve with me and i was like i hope. I hope he just like choke on a restaurant and nobody gets out now. I gotta finish croutons look good. It's just it's just. It's just condescending. Right i mean like the way he looks at randy the way he talks about the wrestling. The and yeah i agree with you did i. I don't think i've i've spoken to anyone yet. Who is condescending. About the podcast or about this creative outlet. But i like i feel like they would be one hundred percent deal out there like you know especially those that you work with who are like. Are you a punk ass. Well bucket like hey i least a creative outlet. At least i can look back on like the loss. Two years of my creative thinking and say how am i. Thinking has changed as a record of that. But let's pray fought all these wrestlers gearing up roque by the way rook is ripped. He he kind of looks like a walking hernia like he looks just walking but yeah like he's got that let that old older kind of bloated really in shape like look you know like that swore nager and stallone who are like seventy kinda kinda look But yeah i mean star. I wouldn't fuck around with this dude. Twenty seven pounds again right. I mean style learn looks like a melting candle without a shirt off like maybe recently and it is no good and we already mentioned that role experience life as the bucks a stranger to the gym and i mean like apparently had a comeback fight in two thousand fourteen. Like it's a bad idea. It's not good. I mean literally watch it right. This is literally the wrestler coming back and doing like something like a comeback lot to two thousand fourteen. I mean god. Held held is mickey. Rourke you now i'm actually gonna i'm actually gonna look this upper mickey sixty three donna. He's sixty eight right now. Sixty six years ago. He was sixty two next while. Well you said two thousand fourteen. Oh yeah oh sorry. I was talking about this baby now. He is sixty two years old. Planning a comeback vitamin like. That's a bad idea man. That's not the and i don't mean that to be like. Oh no seriously don't do that. That's a good idea liking really hurt doing that. Shit i even thing. Mike tyson's to all to fly like he's gearing up for our firearm. Now is fifty four that jesus like i know champ and you still got it but god damn right right. Be careful be careful. Tommy rotten vs randy the ram for the strap and he's trapped him up his opponent. Tommy wilson. I like the chivalry between these. Two zero animosity randy even like you said praises him by saying that. It was really good that time. We saw him in pennsylvania. Just this is level of sportsmanship dude and just a level of camaraderie. And it's just like we understand that we need to go out there and pretend to be enemies and mortal enemies right back. Hey we are the best of friends and let's go to bill like you know ego. It's just like hey. What are we going to do. Like i'm randy the ram so i'm gonna win regardless and he's like bud. How are we going to do this to give them. Their money's worth michael dig that man. That's really cool Apparently all this locker room seines when they kinda like behind the behind the scenes They're all improvised. There's for this. It's all just off the cuff. I believe feels great. Feels very natural. Absolutely we say these other wrestlers planning out the flight. I'm gonna really milk it. His leg man. Everybody does that work. His neck any plans to his in the type and this is what we were talking about. This is actually called blading. Apparently it's spain applauded the professional wrestling for ages. If a wrestling is to make the culmination of this year dramatic intense and memorable then being covered in their blood seems to be the way to go. Apparently it's caused the names like juicing gigging getting khao and dirt. I looked up like there is a list on the internet. And it's like top ten times. Blading has gone wrong like johnson. Is my list number one outrageous number one. The great eddie. Guerrero suffered one of the most distinguished unpleasant way jobs of all times during judgement day. Two thousand four after heinous Shot to the head eddie. Bladed himself but something wrong. He went way too. Deep and audrey artery was pumping everywhere. Eddie was covered in his apartment. Jbl was covered in the ring that was cut cartoons saturday in the stuff and resembled a total paddling pool for us. The that is intense. It again. I really appreciate the level of realism. That mickey rock brings to this same ride a main like this is him actually bleeding himself in the ex i i used to hear a lot of them and i'm probably speaking at a term is would just cut right at the eyebrow right there so it was like your eyebrow and like your scalp. What's up leads. A lot says real sensitive skin but it was very artificial bleeding but yet cut yourself right in the top of the goddamn head do. That's the hard that is not. That is not tough skin up there man and you know i was watching this movie putting the blades in his like straps. And i'm just like what is he. Is he or something right. Exactly like it. I i had no idea but that is crazy to me. Oh my god dude. I just looked up. Eddie eddie guerrero. Dad is awful man. he looks like mars is mechanic. Charlottesville dude looks terrible lie. It's that's insanity. Do that should have been stopped that no that is fucking bad. That is really fucking bad. Song used to be a of remember we lacked. We cheat we steal. And i'm like this. One of my parents never really wanted us watching this growing up. Yes he literally hits a guy that had a on the way to the ring a fucking love it love. Then we got the fi. I do like the way that most of this shot like mostly long takes and it's not it's not exactly the length of the bat in the middle of craid because in in creede there's like a boxing match in the middle of it and it is completely unbroken it guys for like seven or eight minutes crazy but this is still grad at. It's good tonight at. It's mostly rock. Fighting there is a stuntman here but rock is a big part of this and especially the end as well when he's fighting the is all we'll get to that yeah. He does a ram john he pins him. I love this harsh cut from this loud great celebration with the crowd cheering and the celebration music is planning to just complete silence and randy to sitting. This wedding bullet stirred like he's not being tended to by the paramedic again aronovski showing us what goes on behind the scenes of what the audience doesn't say and the manager reminds randy that the twenty year anniversary fight between him and the ayatollahs coming up. He wants to organize a rematch and wilmington in response. Rainy says the guy playing the ayatollah. Bob has just like to me that the ayatollah has just such a plane name. It's just a and by the way the ayatollah. Oh yeah that was. That was a big thing back. Then of just like futurama does a really good like bender. The gender offender when he liked comes out does like fake wrestling and stuff like the. There's a there's a robot who comes on my ways are different than yours in they're scary. It's funny it's like fucking bits. Apparently the ayatollah name was inspired by an opponent. That the whole i think in the eighties is something name. The iron shake. Yeah there is a bunch of shit like that. Yeah there were just like who's brown and who's russian gets a fucking get some crazy competition. So the ayatollah has the kyle law. That's doing good business. He does not come out for the fadh but the manager shows in little. Come after this too. It's randy says okay. Bring it and i liked that we kind of already seeing the hesitancy already from randy. If it's him being nice and considering that bulbs moved on from this ole if it's him clan of realizing hey gonna move on from wrestling right. Yeah i think it's yes right. It's early to toss out because it's like part of me is like does he know that he's like man. I'm a fuck up. I don't wanna drag somebody else in here and get bob her. You know i think. I if i had to guess i'd say it's probably it but i mean like we even get like a little bit of a microcosm of the entire movie here because this manager when he confirms the rematch a fist-bump and route fist-bump he like randy clutches his In pain like you know is like i ready to do this but my body is literally just reminding me. Hey you're gonna fucking of pain did very futurama. The the the spirit is willing but the body is flushed and spongy the flesh the flesh hired and spongy or something like that we get a strip club called shakes h air and we made custody played. Bob versatile aka wonder what paid it with think. Can you imagine if this kid rock this just grow like yeah i can imagine like as as mickey as mickey rourke is like sitting in the van and he's like that guy looks a lot like now let's not him and he looks like flies off he's like there's no way randy breaks hold on why she's being unappreciated by these guys. These frat boys because of her age fucking awesome by the way rainy breaks it up chase past because two hundred dollars just walked out. I can do something your girlfriend never did. Yeah like graduate in one thousand nine hundred five. I've fucking almost bit my drink out a good good but do when he shoves one guy all four of the move and i was like okay so it really is i. Could you can see like the fucking sized on this guy. He's a behemoth. They like fucking twigs. We get a sense that familiar with each other. Randy's a regula and hard cut to fucking lap dance. Strat us Here we go here. We go nudity from. She does man. she's i think forty something at this man. You're old like your if that is old. What do you fuck like twelve year olds. I don't understand because this woman is like. I honestly think she. I think like seinfeld. Machines talking gordon score shirt scores dude right. Well that's like watching something like you know. Seinfeld when she pops up and i'm like she is water hotter now way hotter way way hotter dirt seven like you. You're watching civil war in this. She is like you know she's playing on may. Who is this supposed to be the stick in the mud for for beta baga rover daddy. Jd is planning with it like smart. This movie had spotted it out and it was like sally field of their like dancing to the not. Even sally failed. It's the it's the may from the i that's a love rosemary clooney. I'm so sorry. I really had to put his since ben died man. Fucking old man fucking. Nephew has been highschool her like ninety man. It's dangerous it's a dangerous man. Recover here oh man but yeah term as forty four here which is which is crazy. Big care and compassion for randy when she says his forehead caught and genuine interest when he's showing his scars riley. This is this is why keeps coming back right like this literally. Someone who cares about my genuinely cares about him business. Fuck ary. they're faking. It's just oh look there. Is this line right. Like we're gonna talk about the line that she really set for herself. Your customer right like your brandy doesn't say about way rainier like a man. I was really could be a lot more and that is. it's this. Movie is very tragic because again you are that the ending of the movie is not going to be great four andy but it's also tragic and the man like he just like he could have saved him probably like you know you could have probably saved him well. Yeah it's it's going to the stanley mattress. It's like you know to what extent though when he eventually this would not be enough that he would have to. You know i. i think that this is. He's almost kind of like an addict. The where it's like. I don't really care. You know. I could have a wife and kids and bob like. I had a chance to do that. But like i'm addicted being accomplished in this thing. I think you gotta do that for yourself before you know. He's just wanting to be. He's wanting her to be like his knight in shining armor. And it's like man you gotta you gotta go out there and do that shit yourself you know you gotta commit that yourself brennan's vine draws from something that looks like my penis if it will white right that this guy. This guy really does like yeah. Go for it. I don't know the. I don't even know this guy's name yes. Ima fuck man. I forgot his name lenton. Hey he got arrested like apparently two weeks of this although let me let me look this up. Fuck this shit. I need to deliver this cab. Because i don't want i don't want patrick to fucking leave now. I can't remember the guy's name but he was like he was like selling Steroids and like fighting federal agents and shit like it was something pretty big. And you're right. It was not that long after either this was filmed or when this came out. I read it just a minute ago. But i can't remember the guys. Sorry i haven't scott siegel scotland scott. Sega was the guy apparently his career. His career was derailed. That win tonight. When siegel walked up to a honda civic pox especially suspiciously outside. His parents has in ace chesa. The car had the dacas tint tinted windows. It ever seen sorta did. He had two copies hands around his is pressing its claws to his crisis. Tell me what happened here. What are you looking back at. Him was another pair of eyes siegel jump back from the saying. No one got out of the cop. Sigel walked around the vehicle and then bolt away having figured out that he was on the kalisa violence in the honda award. False mulan offices with the dia. Oh shit fed's westchester county. Toss falls. they'd be watching sale for years. Since almost immediately after his release from a two year and a half year prison stint selling ecstasy exiting the agents suspected he had been supplementing. He's acting income by dealing steroids. Fact the and eighty five pound holy shit. On eighty five pounds siegel had been using anabolics his entire adult life starting as a fifteen year old with body image insecurities today. so you'll thirty five sits in a cell in the west chester county jail invol- hala wild while but yeah. This guy's got everything blows go and see randy taking steroids. Even to this garnered randy shows respect right. There's a sense of. Hey let's talk about something other than drugs as he just says he looks good in the awesome to flex like this is not needed. But i'm fucking glad it's like you could call like if you are easy and you wanted to cut down the movie time you could easily cut this by like thirty seconds elia like you need the hey man you can go ahead and flex but this says so much about race card character and his. It's amazing right. Well he's just like hey even though we're doing something illegal and bob is lesson lesson this on something kind of camaraderie enjoys injects. Royds into his office wrote that when he slept his us. It's like when rookie fucking punches. The prime base a looks like he for real sticks his ass to god that it looks like it's really in their man right even talk to the woman who does his hair like even though she doesn't know a lick of english like you know it's it's it's very endearing dirt like right. He's hit a fucking listen to a problems. I think it also speaks to something. It's like somebody who you know what he talked to. These people regard this like. Yeah but i think it also speaks to someone who's longing for human connection. I mean considering that he breaks humans right every fucking right every not jersey dulles supermarket. They're buying wrestling props of them testing out the pans and shit. Give it to me even the cashiers. Getting in on this indian dude. Allow this when they get back against his ad and then we get another five. This time sees w says combat zone wrestling on a if. I didn't say that patrick will kill me. This guy randy about this guy. Radio is about is about to fight. They're like the shit with the staples wild like even like randy's like initially like hesitant. He's oh man. I guess i gotta do this. Dude yeah he is. This guy is like the rookie. Morty version of cletus the slack jawed yokel. You know just as crazy smokes. Math and golic strangle small animals and then shows up to wrestle on the weekends and Pethick posted a photo of this guy because apparently is like a real life wrestler justified of this guy in in the body just odd like cancer or some shit like it's wild And apparently i'm like forty something hard cut to the fucking bloody battered and bruised entangled in barbed wire before randy knocks him out with a gloss panel to bed dude is visibly winced when we see randy exiting the ring and we see the staples in his back Jayhawk fucking cross. He gets the locker room. We see the insane amount of damage to stay into. His body comes across guy he just knocked out and genuinely if he's okay like you know like you. You look like you've just fought three tours in phnom but you'll still concerned about your opponent right sportsmanship man. I dig it. I love it. We say what happened. I love the way to. This is added by the way because we see what happened in the fight as their by thank traded ending january it's good staples to the nips bug spray to the face folk to the forehead. Bobbed dwyer crutch this dirt literally us randy to take his prosthetic leg and use it as a weapon which is apparently based on a real event. Oh yeah i like it. I love it. I love the crowd getting on this right. Use his leg. You savages rainy vomits before clutching his left arm and subsequently passing. It wakes up in hospital disoriented and bad news. Bears right doctor tells him he's had a bypass and that he needs to take better care of his ought and he'll be on meds needs needs to cut off the other sar cut out the other missiles on aka the steroids and the other bullshit. Whatever he's on Do all of his first question. When can i get back in the gym and start looking out and talked to destroy. Trump says mark montague not a good idea to cape breslin. You can't handle strenuous activity. Rainy plays with the doctor. The doctor advises strongly against wrestling. The most heartbreaking pot about this dirty is you know. I appreciate the him having the attack. And that's all that's over. I said for me. It's nobody picking him up from the hospital and he has to catch a cab to the parking lot of the place where he pasta out like that is oh man one of those things. Where if you if you you know if you. I think a sign of utter loneliness. If you didn't show up by ten o'clock at night somewhere would somebody start freaking out. No nobody would freak out if he didn't show you. You haven't been missed right right. Yeah it's like maybe after a few days maybe after a couple of weeks. The guys in the vfw yet notice you're not doing any matches or whatever but i feel like this guy if he dies in his trailer You know His landlord finds him. You know because he hasn't paid rent or something. It's not going to be something. Some family member checking up on you. You know man it's gut wrenching. That's a good point. Yeah like he would be found out of like family. Member genuinely concerned. It's you didn't pay my money right. Fucking socks he regains access to his trial paying the puck manager and he's got a nollie scour chest. Oh by the way. I'll be meaning to ask you. Do you have random pornography plus behind your towel rack because randy does. Oh hossa where. He's got it at the at the hospital. I know that's out of this show. He gets out of shell in his caravan and reaches for and behind the tel. Just plus an a four. just women's just just hits like not even like a face or head it's just would. I'm just like that. It's such a random. I just now solve that. Like fucking corner. There is something kind of funny about that though of dislike the towel in like this. How would always be here now. There's something kind of funny about that. Some kind of clever. Actually i am thinking rod. Put my thinking up on. I don't say as someone who pays for her internet so when he's in the shell on he needs material. Yeah i beat off on analog digital right. he's still paying for like fucking playboy in print. Girls gone wild on on. Dvd this groundbreaking stuff on vhs. He doesn't even have fucking david aaplo right. Oh man he's rating but his chest thoughts heading again. He literally has nobody so he calls in one of these kids into the into the trial of deployed intendo. That struck me the second time around like it is his weird calling a kid. I i get all that but it struck me the second time around that he didn't want to be a learning. Casey like maybe collapsed as some shit like that was really striking to me. The second time around. I missed out the first time right will. Yeah and there's something like you know man. I wish i had a kid. I wish i could play and hang out with like kidding south like any you coulda you kinda fucked up first time around. You know right exactly and like him playing this randy like this game that features him the cocteau. What what do you think of. What do you make Is there some kind of level of narcissism here or was it just kind of like him being this tajik i you know. I think it's kind of just like you know if you if you gave this guy an xbox controller and like a. We're going one. V one rust modern warfare. Two right yeah. He can't yeah. I can't do that but you know you kind of have to even the playing field like this were even like mike tyson's punch out or something you know he probably be cool with it but it it almost makes sense like would be. Did he go on by this by a copy of his own game now. I think somebody gave him this as a gift. Long time ago. Now this is the only thing that even if he ever felt like playing a game. This is what he would do. You know This kid describing called force hilarious. By the way i'm just like bitch the sa. Sis soldiers name is soap and price. Have some damn respect for the fallen. Those mother fuckers legends but again it shows that the mctavish fuck them audited fucking case david in a dude who get to get to the verdict town. Good love atlanta. Anderson is is the colonel sick ass dude. Love that i didn't ask you this. Sorry go ahead. Because i'm moving onto the wrestler side. We've talked about bruce greenwood and glenmore shower as overlord. I fucking lava data fucking overlord Good stuff i loved the juggernaut. It was like zombies for modern warfare to or modern warfare. Three but it was just like you an partner. Killing a is a came man but it wasn't zombies out. I can't remember what it was called but what is it spec ops. Is he deaf in one ear. Yeah i call that to the second time around. Because it's so prevalent when he's hanging out with his daughter. I'm pretty like it. It looks like he's going deaf or he is deaf in one ear but again in really speaks to the fact that his body's breaking down right. Right right yeah. I wonder what you thought it was like man. There's something interesting about that where it's just like him you know he doesn't make a big deal out of it and you just see him take an i feel like when he takes it out and puts it in. You can hear like and it's gone for second like i swear to god. Maybe maybe it's just me inflicting my own hearing loss on it. But i was like. Oh shit i there's something about this huge hulking man wearing this like child like device. You know there's some yeah there's something about that well. The first time i picked up on was when he's working in the delhi. And i just thought it was an ap so could communicate with his coworkers. But then i sort again in the same with rachel would and i was like. Oh wait hold on your death. Ya right So just a little couple of cool little things about this This game out his game actually wrestle jam and it was specifically designed for the movie by oddest kristen. Human program randall fiorina. It wasn't actually running unintended hardware controls a wide op to play it. And apparently there's like an extensive story about the development of the game Then i just got a little bit of snippets atoll's program. At denver area develop a net devil had to program russell jammed from the ground up writing rendering input and auto official intelligence routines the to playable characters and curator says wrestle. Jam is completely pliable. There was an interest grade character. Select win-loss conditions opponent eight different attacks. It was as close to a genuine old school wrestling. Gama's i could make it in the time allowed. I even met an old antenna control to put to to input systems applied. that way. Fucking awesome dude. That's a lot for just a little bit. You know rahm but there is. There's something kinda sad about that the fact that this kid is. This is just so archaic. And here's this washed up dude. You know asleep in and a trailer and stop and it's like dude for a while. This guy was like. Do you know who tommy morrison the boxer is. Do you know who he was. Tommy gun in rocky five he was rockies protege in rocky five Okay up got that our. I just watched rookie firefighter recently again. Actually yeah yeah. It's fresh bad ass real life. This guy was been boxing. His whole adult life knocked out. George foreman or tko george foreman. I think he won by points. I mean george foreman. This is in the nineties late eighties. But tommy morrison ended up testing positive for aids and had to drop out of boxing and the fucked up thing was they ended up figuring out. The tommy morrison actually knew for a while when he was boxing. But it's like dude. Imagine tommy morrison died at like forty four because he eventually got sean android and like dude if you see his what tommy morrison look like in his prime and then his blake pictures of him getting arrested right before his death. It's horrible it is fucking horrible to look at. You cannot believe it's even this guy but you know. Imagine that guy still live living in a trailer and he's gonna watch rocky five like what a sad washed up mother fucker. You know but it's like but for fleeting moment. This guy was on top of the fucking world like this guy had the world at his fingertips. It's like and. I wonder what exactly happened. They don't ever really give a reason. Why like dickie acklin. In the fighter got addicted to drugs. He kind of blew it. You know but what did happen. What happened to the rammed where the ram either did the market dry up for what he was doing. Did he fuck it up time. Just pass them on and he hit a ceiling. could you know. I'm wondering what the reasons are never really broke that ceiling. That's why that's why i like. When i saw this movie i kind of looked up. Wi- recycling diminish in terms of viewership. Because i think that's a factor. I said thank because this is so good at wrestling and what he does and working in an industry that is just becoming less and less popular by the minute. Like you know it's just going to happen eventually. You're going to want to cling to it and you're going to want to like cling to the old days that it just eventually consumes the allies. I'm trying. I'm sure ages ageism minute as well you know like oh the straw. A guy who looks like that is not the face of wrestling. You want you know. I mean it's not like he's ugly. He's not in great shape. This pretty ugly. I can't believe his balls produce. Evan rachel wood. I'm like that smoke. Show of a woman nagy gotti. Well i mean like mickey rourke in this movie looks like a white danny's right higher spicer like looks dude. He is so handsome as a younger man. Like a fox is a box dude. And it's like what did you do to yourself. Man what the fuck kris jenner duty yourself. Terrible that's great because he goes to the strip club custody. She wants to grab a hamburger. But this tax apprise she says. I can't leave the customer. He tells her about the heart attack. Changes in mind dirt like yalies. He says of feel like lazy says. Yeah i liked cassidy here. I like i like i like kind of like i'm just gonna take a break like this is just too much for this is like i can't ignore this. I need to talk to him. Like in our. She's she's very caring about about ran randy. I'm conflicted on that. His yes she does like split reno right right then and she's like go out there and talk to him but as soon as she does any kind of like lip service. Are you okay okay. Cool and she just merely goes back in. And i'm like and part of that. Is you know in her profession. I understand why she would be closed off. That's understandable. i don't falter for that but but there's something about that where it's like even in the face of this like it's not like you're a fucking secret service agent is like you're you're a dancer and it's like and i understand you don't want to lose your job. You have a lot on the line but this guy obviously has something for you. Probably know him enough to know that he doesn't have a lot of people in his life and he come to your just right. I'd be like. Hey i fucking need to talk to somebody like maybe hang out with dude. Don't you know. Oh you had a heart attack. Okay well. I gotta go back in. You know i'll see you later. And i'm like man that's just seemed a little. I just didn't dig on that man. I just didn't dig on that. But it's i think it's also you can't falter. Were her character is at at this moment. You know. I think i think him coming in and relaying the problems. She has a problem of like trust. I feel like it's a character. Essentially someone who's a customer so to see him kind of extend that olive branch. I is what's important. She would not be the one to the first meal to the table. He would have to bring you know you have to be the first one to lay it out there. You know what i mean. I think this. I know what you mean. I'm also wondering if there's a level of because she's planning on moving with us on soon so i'm wondering if she is ru somewhat closed off to connecting with someone on an intimate level and finding upon a in randy that she's just like Men and i don't want to get involved because i've plans like i've actually like kinda fades into it like plus knob being able to trust anyone considering what her job is like. I feel like does two things together might lend to her kind of like dating. Like oh you okay okay. Cool let me go to right right right and it felt it felt very marv and goalie when he comes in in the four guys are fucking with her and he's like stand up for her and he's like i don't talk to her like that. I'm like but you know like she's like oh come on going okay but deep down. She's like i would fuck fuck the shit out of this guy right now. Thank you a deal with people all the time. Fucking thank you totally He says. I just didn't feel right. That's why i wanna talk to you. Because i don't wanna be a learn. And she says that he should be with her daughter but there appears to be some animosity with them which we haven't found out yet but here we go because that he digs out an old fuddy his daughter with a bunch of added far numbers on the back. I love that like just the nice touch did when he picks up the florida. You can see on the back. There's like folk crossed out for numbers. I wonder if it's like it. I wonder if it's like him trying to keep tabs on but he's just not able to like you know like it's it's it's pretty breaking. Yeah i it seems like either you know and don't reach out or you're trying to track this person down and have like a half ass time of doing it you know. I mean. he tries the latest. One of the coal doesn't guy for imagine what is feeling right like he just went through this highly traumatic experience ride. That likely is in nevada and death fucking looms nia and you just can't get you can't get ahold of early data data. I don't know. I don't have kids but i feel like that. Is that is harrowing me by the only person who is here you loved and is capable of loving you back on paper who should be loving you back like econ get hold of him like your ride. I probably right. It's like it's like waiting on death row from the call from the governor in it's approaching midnight like now it's time to go. There's no yeah. This is a bucket mouth classic colon analogy though. I'm like i'm like let me let me fucking spill out this. Like twenty million would run on sentences. And you're just like let me sum is here. Go only do that with my opening. Thoughts is gonna be fucking eight hours long ago against the stephanie's place on this door this chick by the way was early caused just to cost like judgmental looks at randy like i wonder if the fucking causing coal budget wanted for good judgmental looks right. Yeah the there's there's something yeah there. Yeah there is that look but there's also like a very protectiveness about her that i did. She's like the fucking you you know it's like who is this guy right right because you imagine that stephanie is told her all about her dad right right must be must be. I already said that evan. Rachel wood is acting in this movie. I especially in this sane where she freaks out and like i. it's good. i think it's a little. I think it's a little too. I mean she goes a little overboard and especially in the same way. She's lost throwing shit. I i can see her acting. And maybe it's just because mickey rock and mercer tire may just goodness this movie that if you have a weak link just kinda stands out a little bit me. What did you think about this. Well yeah and. I mean it's as somebody who like i had a semi contentious relationship of might add and like my dad had a heart attack. Shed and but i was never like you know a man you know you're on my dad. Never treated me like ram treats you know her. Name's stephanie right. Stephanie stephanie right. But at the same time it was like man you know. That's that's coming off like it's it's it's hate. You hate to be like cohen off a bit harsh because you didn't really have her childhood. You know but. I feel like for her reaction to be this nuclear. It has to be like man. He was either abusive due to steroids when he was younger and she was younger. Like there needs to be a little bit something more there. An absent father still an absent father but yeah there are some owners like man it does feel like she's going like a little she's going to the button way too quick. She's hitting nuclear way too fast now so much in her. I made that clear. Like i don't need every single thing in the on the planet answered ironic ambiguity. But it's just like. I feel like i need a little bit more here because i didn't think absentee father. I mean it's it's terrible. It's bad but he could have done so much less. And it feels like this reaction that it was a lot was. It's it's hard to put. It's hard to put value on somebody else's trauma whether fiction or on neo nonfiction but it is still like man. I don't know where the mom is. Obviously she had his name With her daughter or the mom is dead. They don't ever say you know this is probably your last living parent like you know if they're showing up to make amends. I know it's twenty years. Excuse me i know. It's probably twenty years too late. But at the same time. If i hadn't seen my dan twenty years and he's like hey. I had a heart attack. You know it's not looking good. I'd be like you know. I would rather bite the bullet and kinda stomach. You know these last five years then. And i tell people that all the time like dude. I understand you're strange from appearance. You have a bad relationship get over it because whenever it be the bigger person even if you're a third of their age because when that moment happens near like i probably should have done something and you will fucking regret that and it's like that trust me and i feel like after this movie is over and you know he's come on talking dead She is sending fuck. I really fucking shit. Like faulk. I really i think she is full of regret and anger because he put her in a position to where she reacted like that. You can't blame her for it. But at the end of the day i feel like there is still a lot of regret after that moment happens. Yeah absolutely i think. You'll one hundred percent on the money that She freaks out when he tells her about the heart attack. She thinks he's being disingenuous. Wants to take care of him and he ben her more than a few times game is interesting to me because these are the regrets in life that he needs to live with right like this is kind of like you've done this in the pause and now you're trying to make amends for it here at the end of the allies and it's just not gonna go away and that is the worst part about this hurting like you want someone to take care of you and he's like now i just i just want somebody you know and it's right. Do i really believe he wants her to take care. He wants him he. He wants her to take him. No not not one bit. You know it might be Might be a you know on the back burner. But that's not front center. You know what what his intent. I think it's literally. Hey what are you doing today when i get some fucking aaa wings. That's literally right i. 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He sweats when he jacks off a come down to what does what does birth campbell's announce a coal him again in spider man like the final. Or something yeah. He wants to be. He wants to be called the human spider and he's like oh the spiderman love. Let's get back into this. So randy goes back to the gym. Where he tells the provider that he's good to gar. He's set something up with the ayatollah fide and man. I love. I love like rocks. Performance here like insane. Like this where it's gonna be something like you know it's just like right. It's like it's like because he looks the promo bill here. I like the you know the randy the ram versus the ayatollah and like. I wonder if it's like he's thinking man. I wonder if this is going to be where i die. Like you know like if you near way you're going to die and you had to choose way you're going to die and way you lost. Merman was on earth. Like i wonder if it's kind of like that like you know like if it's like this is probably gonna be too much for me like i know it's racial shot but just knowing you're gonna die is fucking wild to me. I think the guy. He's talking to. I he somewhere in this movie but i can't find him. It's free lander from rock. And i'm pretty sure that's him the guy with the glasses who always has trucker hats on thirty rock. I'm pretty sure this guy he walks into has got the jersey on but that guy's huge like he he's end Oh god would you ever lehto about the movie. Who the guy who shot john lennon. I'm sorry mark. David chapman i think is i can't really guys name. But he's in that he's in thirty rock. He's not bunch shit. He is fucking hilarious until i. I didn't realize he was even in this movie. Until i saw the google cast and i was like. Oh fuck judah friedlander in this like. He's hilarious man. Are they awesome. Did you notice how. He's got a fanny pack. A main lost all respect for him like six crust. But this man. What are you gonna do. This is probably one of the first things that i kind of really started feeling the movie. Pull a heartstrings. Like he he sits down and just like surveys. The room ride looks around the other wrestlers. Everyone has injuries. this one. Dude has a pissed bag attached to his ankle dude. This is super haunting stuff right. It tells us that this is not a profession. Meant for people who want to live long healthy lives you know right. We'll also look where you are like. There's something wrong sell in march man. Like that's cool but i. I can equate this to when we went to the louisville super con. And i don't wanna say who. I don't wanna be you know. Make anybody phil babb. There is a certain movie that came out. It was a one hit wonder and the people enter. Were pretty much one. Hit wonders and there. They were an nobody was at their table. I mean it it was. It's a movie that i absolutely adore. And i just saw them and i was like that sucks man and it was. This place was packed. Chris aranda and carry. Always dave batista. John cusak william shatner. And it's like nobody's at your fucking table and little super concentrate big you know but this is just like fuck this a sad man. This is this is like there's something about this just like a down at the american legion signing autographs. It's like you know. I'm sure he would. He likes his fans. But there's also something about that of just like in this room full of like overweight injured guys to cheap plywood of all the linoleum lie. You know the linoleum. The fluorescent lighting stitches yards. It feels like they're almost in a fucking like hospital. You know this feels a hospital. It grow. I hate it. I fucking hate it. It feels like it feels like we We watch breaking bad. So it feels. Like when. Walt is kinda like sitting down on the couch on the couches. Like getting the fucking with the iv drip getting the came my pumped into like it feels like a vegetative state like in our right. This is not a room full of hopeful young people. now it's like It's a scary at the strip club. We say cassidy attempt to get a few customers to buy into a lap dance. But she's not very successful and again very much like randy her age and is keeping her from doing what she's good at and what she needs like. She need this to survive. She'd literally needs. She needs shane's the income from this job to live and rising sun and yeah she's got she's prospects for. I like she wants to move away. She's what does it. She's building a house or she's having a house built or something like that. Some something yes she she. I i can't remember but there's also something about the fact that not only do people not voluntarily asked for you when you offer it. People wanted that all which is insane. I would fuck in who. I've never been asked before but i'm just saying it's it's i did not actually actually not a lie. That's ooh he'd mass. I had a guy wanted the work at a job. I worked. Hey man it's twenty twenty. Everybody eats assets. Like no the fuck. They don't way maybe fresh out the shower with Yeah that is yeah. That's a good point. I didn't think about that. Like the fact that she is offering. And no one is saying yes like you have nothing else to give by your body like yard. That is insane to me Randy tells that he went to go see his daughter but she ripped him anew asshole a he doesn't know anything about his daughter declines dance because he doesn't think he's quite ready for that and do like minor. Here's what i'd fucking brisket. It finally getting a hundred hot fucking explodes. I'm good sorry. She looks usual clientele before changing and going back to randy offering to buffering a help to get some class whereas door. What did you think about this. I don't like this. I don't know this is something just to be specific not like them kind of like going cluj shopping but her turning around off looking at the clients and then going back rainy. I had a really tough time coming to a conclusion about this. And i don't know if i still do as a conclusion. What are your thoughts about this. This feels like. I better have a backup plan. That's this is what that but it so in. It's so conflicting though because she offers to go out with him but then she you know there's no it never goes anywhere beyond him going clothes shopping and stuff you know they kiss ma ma but that's really about it so i'm like what. What is her going back as her going back. You know just to say you know fuck it like i. I'm kind of torn because at one point in my mind. I'm saying oh so now once you realize there's nobody out here really wanting you'll go for the one guy in here who really actually does want you. That's one way to read it. But i honestly would say that might be a little bit of a surface level. Viewing i think also part of it might be. I actually genuinely feeling for this person. That i won't let myself feel because these fucking people and it's like no fuck y'all go right up there until yarmysh tomorrow you know and i think already. She's kind of like breaking that. That golden rule of hers. The first time around. I really really fucking did not why. I still don't like this. I don't think it's a little sloppy the way that this is done. Because she walks over looks around as like all right backs. And it's like you know. I don't know i just. I don't like the leaving going looking leaving coming back. It's kind of stupid. But there is something i like about it and the sense of at my i read on it was i better have a backup plan and no i think that's just a really two-dimensional way of looking at it. I think it's more her looking at going. You know this is somebody who i you. She obviously likes the guy she obviously does but she's actually allowing herself to kind of see. You know let somebody backstage. Somebody inflicted right yes. She's definitely conflict. And and i think that it's almost might be a thing of in the face of rejection in the face of getting older. You have somebody who actually like you. That was my question. So i was like i was like shaved being told so many times tonight. That this one guy who actually comes up and offers himself to is what. She's been kind of needing to get out of this kind of nosedive that she's intimate that's my none of like rate on it. It was very tough to get to that conclusion. That because like you said it it feels some of this feels a little sinister like united shitty. Yeah if you don't get to like the carta through than this feels a little sinister in terms of like she's kinda using randy full as like a crutch like emerging economy right. Gotta make up roughly. I don't know if it's that hostile on that sinister or that shitty but in this scene if you want to take this saint out an isolated it does a little bit like you know it comes across that way a little bit but yeah yeah. That's i think. I think it comes across. Add on a guinness reversal. Viewing but if there had been just a little bit of something of her like even her son was like you know she gives us her her that toy to her son and he's like you know this guy can meet him and she's like no you know she doesn't want him to actually meet him. That's one step closer to this person becoming a part of our lives and like the there's a fear of intimacy or there's a fear of something you won't let yourself do and you realize it's because of this fucking place that's a little bit different but i. It doesn't read that way the first time you watch. It took me a couple. It took me a little bit of time sitting on it to come to that conclusion and that might mean that's might not be the way it's meant to come across even now absolutely and i think i think her ultimately leaving that job to guard to randy at the end of the movie is really helps. This saint out like. I really like indicates that it's like okay. Maybe it's not fucking sinister like you. Maybe there is a lot more here. I'm right exactly so. Did his manager is just watching porn at the office. Like this is what this is like out there and random familiar. I'm just lying okay go. He's like hey chick or names cassidy like the thing them the sunday night about the your like store history Cookies right. Mike right are you. Not and also he's just watching it like that's insane inside her just watches porn and doesn't crank down because that is that is like some serial killer level shit right right. Yeah no. that's that's what sitting there and just watching pornography as unlike any. I don't want to knock anybody like you know. I'm sure there's been times where people have watched pornography there are val there are varying degrees of value in pornography. I'm not gonna like clot right. Like maybe he's going to like plumbing school and he's getting tips from like johnny sins. Right right yeah. He's like all right. So how do i. How do i show up and act like they're to clean the pipe. But then i fucked gleaned bites good now yeah there is something kind of like. There's something just kind of strange about that routes like a. There's a reason why you watch this usually not just leisurely like i think it would be like watching the election results inches masturbating the whole time. You know you've got this totally flip-flop like what the fuck but yeah the hilarious part is he gives him he and i don't want to jump ahead. I don't want to try it and you know when he's sitting there and he was like you know. Hey i can work. Weekends is like oh. Isn't that when you said on other guys faces and he's like just watching some fucking college dropout finger blasted like what the fuck are you giving me shit. Are you kidding me. Like oh man. I love what he does that. I love what he does this guy at the end. But yeah there's there's something really It's kind of weird. Man like my. My mom worked at a public library for a long time. You know they had like computer banks and she's like you would be surprised how many people actually show up to watch it. And they're not sitting there jacking off in the middle of the library. But they're just sitting there watching thrill. Maybe maybe it's the thrill because you're in a public space right. Like i mean like with this guy on that work. I'm doing something wrong doing something. I'm i'm doing something that i shouldn't be doing like you like. Maybe that's what it is. I don't. i'm speculating. Be like the rest of us. Go grab your guy or gal or whoever and go bang in. The back of mosser tribune a walmart parking lot. That's all i'm saying you. Now show up jack off at work getting paid to jack off. That's that's taken advantage of the system. That's what i say. Actually that's not too bad getting paid to jack off. That's correct exactly to take the job right. Parade of hot horny housewives begging fia mate okay. What what is wrong with this guy. He's like he's just. I wanna fuck you ram. He's just turned fourteen and is going through puberty. All think about is like sex like all like all of his dialogue. but like it's just so like really cranked up to eleven like the sexual explicit exclusivity. Whatever and i'm just like what what are you. Are you a you a boy. A young boy. There's no way this guy didn't go through like a really really bad divorce and his wife took the kids because he was doing something fucking crazy. You know. whatever pro this guy. I mean. let's be honest. It looks like you watch child pornography. I'm gonna beat around the bush. The guy looks like watch pornography. Yeah right so. His wife took the kids. She's gone to her sister's and you know orlando or something he stuck here you know at the house She might be left dog You know but he's basically. Yeah the only person that would fuck him in the last one eight years is gone and he thinks going out there and just doing it all the time you know the basically if i water the flowers too much every day. I'll eventually get some kind of like no. No sweden doesn't work that way. It's all about balance. I'm trying to find out a case Trying to find out what the movements of the east area rapist were and trying to say. This guy was missing. Because well i mean like just this fits the bill not address. James dangelo was the making it right like he was the he's eric is but it's like this. That is like what that guy was doing as he was walking around like random houses. And you know he had like like like a the doors of like people's like places while they were sleeping in have nice and knock him the fuck fucking tap on the windows and he'd not be not wearing anything underneath like he had a tiny penis and like that's not even like a jerk. That's a detail across all witnesses. He had a tiny penis. That is literally. I imagine this guy ends up doing like you know it's right now. Yeah this guy. This guy definitely volunteers to have like sleepovers at his house when he had kids. Okay do do you just need to back on. One of the dads called them on. It was like this is really inappropriate. You know what is. What's what's this guy's name gianna the boss's name. Oh fuck whatever's name. He probably thought we'll go out. It's got to be a four letter. We're like phil or like doug or Yeah yeah spin vs vin. Something crazy lear. That or it's like a three with three like three word name riley. Joseph james deangelis like. Yeah yeah yeah pam cassidy and randy go shopping. I like this. She's like calm. You can call me pam like again. Like the lowering of the defenses Randy's got terrible taste in clothing like it's just all god so tacky. Hey thinks that. His daughter is a lesbian. Not in my middle america. God damnit around the spots. I love the fact that he's like well lesbian news matter. He's like no and that's only really brought up. You know i love that. He's he's probably a little old school you know. And he's like well. You know a whatever you at this point i really you know what's it gonna matter if i anything this boy right exactly. It's not gonna make any difference. But probably inflame inflame further. He also forbid she's hesitant and she says that she has a kid. I love the way she mentions it. Because rainy doesn't bring any of this up. It's just kind of you sure about this. I have a kid like it's a it's it's a you should know about this each like before asking me out because i feel like it's going to put you off and it's just such a true. It's kind of like an adorable like defense mechanism. Like you know like it's kind of like i'm insecure about this kind of thing but ulcer. Just be prepared. It's hard to get. It's a nice touch boy and it's also like well you know you should probably tell somebody that before. He actually go on like i had ice. I had a girl once. I asked on a date. And she she did have a kid a couple of years old and ultimately that ain't never really materialized while we you know we were both interested annenberg okay. Do you want to go out to dinner some time. She was like she was kind of like stunned. She was a kid right. And i was like yeah and she was so surprised that i was asking her. I was like. I don't bother me if you have a kid as you know 'cause i guess she just is shows so shocked that i was you know even like yeah you know knowing that if the dates went on you know maybe of the nine of this step-dad or something like whatever but just so shocked and it's like that shows you the thura of douche bags you've had to deal with you were like i mean i'll fuck you but like i mean i'm not looking for anything long-term rod exactly. Yeah like the kid is something that weighs you down. Yeah absolutely official the having a bitch. She's thinking about moving to may be great here as she. She's to shot a dance in the middle of this bar in broad daylight also by the way. The nineties fucking ruled a k. Funkier the with fucking greats. Her i if you were if you were successful in the seventies or eighties. Yeah maybe not. Maybe the nineties weren't great for you but that's also people started like using the internet ordering stuff online like you know in a lot of stuff from the eighties was not cool anymore. Eighties music windbreakers mullets. And it's like yeah that's fucking gross dude. Ninety came around. Yeah definitely burst that bubble like real big time absolutely So this they're actually singing and dancing to this song called round and round around. We'll find a wages. Did you catch when they stop thinking. I think i read that right before that line or something. The next line before like a just before they stopped saying the next would have been at a love will find a way. Just give it time right. That is iran fucking awesome. Dude the I think well no. I was gonna say i thought rat did his intro music bomb bomb bomb bomb right. No no. that's quiet riot guns moment. No his insurer music data. I'm like eliza sixty like that song. I think mental health or drive you or something. It's a fucking bad ass song. It's really good song. I wrote altro music or something. Yeah but choir is a bad ass. Ban rat were bad. Sbn yeah the those are they actually do have a good plethora of like eighties rock music in this that i actually don. I'm not embarrassed. That i like you dig it. Look out of the two of us fucking music is the thing dr. I'm in like i'm just right. I like i like whatever whatever but yeah hookup cassidy is embarrassed and makes a quick exit before she sucks down an entire bay. And i'm just like fucking mary me. Like jesus yeah time talking. Well that love that he has the name badge again. He's fucking bosses dervish. He he doesn't look like a robin. No but there's something. There's something really interesting about here. Though like i don't i mean i don't think his name really is robin wright. It's reindeer randall or whatever. I look credited as randall. I i mean they call mr ramos linski. And it's like okay. So his name is probably randall. Rimouski or something like that and he goes by ram. But what i thought was interesting. Is he says. Oh there's some kind of mix up on like your w4 or whatever w two which is like a tax form. He's like okay fucked up something wrong. They fucked up your name. I was like. I guess it's not intentional. So what. I was wondering is like is this a subtle thing to be like. This is the person you are becoming. You're not rainy anymore. Like you're kind of becoming this robin like you're becoming something that you were not like an m maybe a little looking a little bit too far into it but the loss of identity is is kind of up in that a little bit. I like the fact that randy absolutely. Oh like when you like. Fill out your w. two in the first place. You consider yourself to be robin and then you took on the mantle as randy and yeah you'll save the incoming back around to that. Yeah and like you know like is constantly correcting his name throughout the movie right like it's just kind of like that you're rejecting your kind of like identity like you know you're constantly saying Man it's actually randy like like is right. I love that it's good. It's good stuff. I love the tracking shot. Follow him to the to the To the deli and the mixed in the background dirt as the fans cheering even just like as he stands before. Heading out hesitates balking awesome. I think this is kind of like how he makes it bearable in his mind like what he's doing. Good stuff man. I did this. I worked me departments for a long. I never worked into delhi. I worked in meat departments for probably five or six years. I loved it. It was a great job. You've got to work behind the counter. I'd put headphones and clean up shop every night and go home Yeah there is something. That's that's how you know that your way around a big sausage road. Yeah yeah dude. I heard you can't beat our prices but you can't beat our meat There's a lot you know a guy there so many fucking like me jokes inside Especially in the south all the meat department guys are a bunch of horny drug rednecks But it was. It was actually kind of a cool job. 'cause you learn a lot about like meat and you're like how many people actually eat meat. You learnt so much chicken You know especially cutting sakes cutting pork chops and stuff There's actually really good steak that i learned. It's called chuck eye steak and that's different from a rabbi. Like if you're cutting on a line you know once you get farther down the line the stakes stop getting nice. Yeah but they're still pretty good and cut him off and call him. Chuck is rib is are like ten to twelve dollars a pound in the us. Just for you know just how to pound is you're gonna twenty twenty five bucks a chuck eye. Steak is like four fifty to five dollars a pound the same state. Just a little more. And i was like dude. I used to get the. I'd walk into a pharmacy. Hey chuck steaks and they'd be like like. How do you know about that. I used to work at publix. Foodline stop But it's a great job if anyways are looking for like man i'm gonna good solid career. That's never going to go out of business. Bmi cutter do his never going away. Those people make fucking bank. It's like it's like a secret society. How do you know about chuck. I except for tiramisu. They let me in the back door. Man i'll tell you what i i'm starving a guy for nice fucking wag year right now like cross man he can eat. Stay wait what what did you like your w. g. y. goo w. a. j. wire i think it's the strategy and actually i was gonna say i never like we got like t. Bones porterhouses strip. Steaks are lying. Lucas up i mean. Look this up. Because i'm saying i'm interested in what a wag year in. Oh japanese should. I guess oh several. In several areas of japan waggin bay fish shipped across the ship carrying area. Names the fuck some examples metsu sakaba curb eighth yonezawa bay michelle mob. Eighth kobe beef. We definitely have that. But i just realized as soon as you said it was japanese i was like oh and i was like oh that sounded way to crisis. That sounds terrible bits. Aw found offended now so these trailing wag. You association is the largest braid association outside. Japan rights bud full blood and waggin cattle communist rally for domestic and overseas markets. Yeah so that is important. Yeah so yeah. I was as markets including taiwan. China hong kong indonesia. Uk france germany. And the us. So then we got. That's why such a big thing. Okay make sense and your meat is so much better than ours. Oh my god it's ridiculous. From what you i it is it actually is. I'm not even kidding. I don't want it to be like. I'm fucking failing and i'm proud of it like a genuinely into the states twice i've had stake in in the us like whatever it's no comparison dude like it is is is it next year or like a seasoning. Thing yeah i think. I think it's because i think it's the texture thing because oftentimes you find that stake in australia is mercy. Gross fan instead of grain. Fed and cross fan is a lot lower betta for texture. Then god that's a big very expensive here grasp grass-fed beef. We sold that in public and it was like outrageous outrageous upheld. Although as insanely interesting as this is we get off the midnight. Mitri fucking who patrick's polaner slave now. Yeah patrick elbow patrick's lists like wakes up. Let's get to probably one of my favorite scenes in the entire movie and that's this same whereas like working the deli. Like this is old improvised there is this is an actual working deli actual customers. There is no scripted. This is mickey rock. Interacting with actual customers of this stole customers. Have no idea that. This is a like the movie they're filming. It's amazing because brandy is incredibly likable here. Man like he's just just as he goes through these customers living. Yeah his giving his own personal tasha h in canada rather than just being like a mindless drone. What you haven't good-looking freshest monkeys breath like he's really really trying to make this work man like even though none of these assholes say plays once. Did you catch that. I just ninety nine. Wow 'cause i worked at hoists the cinema for for such a long time. I even before that. I worked food restaurants job and like i think it's just after working in customer service for so long. I kind of like stock to read into people's like you would be able to you too as well because you saw good luck with customers you kinda of like you'll very good at picking up people's terms and the way people speak and pave the way people use words and leaves out specific words like you really start to understand the psychology of the way they speak so this lady is just like. Can i get a pat of chicken. It's just it's not. Can i get a pound of chicken. Plays like you know it's just like still. There's still a level of you're not being accepted here right like you'll still right. Not a part of this well and it's just no matter how hard you tried to matter. How well they as in canada. And how well you to make yourself. You know personable. It's you you are still a part of the machine. Yeah it well. Yeah and the the big thing is like you know. Everybody has great days at work. Or they're like you know this isn't so bad and then that one bad day comes along and they're like i gotta go back to college. I gotta do something different. You know and that's the thing is like he's having a really good day. And i love seeing him on. Tom and i love seeing him being able to like something that he's not afraid to go. Work the deli counter perfectly able. It's like. I'm afraid that i'm gonna feel like a failure. Eli's does it. he starts getting into it. He's like shadowboxing. You hits the poll. He's got damn how about them cowboys. And it's like do. I love that but there's also something that as soon as that as soon as it's kind of a rush as soon as it's kind of a bad day he just collapses and it's uprooted like this guy cannot work like a normal nine to five go in their work your forty hanging up when you go home kind of thing like you're just not cut out for that kind of thing if you fold under the first day you're never gonna fuck and make man And it's literally. Like i mean he has a lotta shit riding him at that point you know with his daughter and you know with pam and stuff. But there's something about that where it's like man this guy the first sign of trouble. He just kinda like folded he can't. It's just it's a it's a character. it's very decisive character. Trait of like. I cannot juggle all this shit. This is why. I walked the fuck out on my family because i couldn't book and do it 'cause i can't juggle having shitty really ship the woman and my daughter and my job. I can't fucking do it in. The ring is the only only thing to make sense right absolutely and some people just aren't meant to fit into the mold like some able on. I'll just on built that way. Like his he's an example and obvious it's very far out example and it's nothing randy but my brother and i are very two very different paypal. Mike you know. I was. Yeah coming up. I m first generation israeli and my parents are immigrants. I was expected to go to uni and might get a degree like you know. It was kind of like yeah. It was kind of an expectation you know like there was no choice but luckily i always kind of wanted to be a lawyer anyway. So you like. It's not like unknown pressured or anything like that but my brother comes along three years later right and my parents kind of like perspective changes a little. It's like my brother. Did trying to play himself at school but he was not You know he's not the smartest in the fucking in fucking. I can talk about him. He's it but it's like academically. Some people just don't formulate into classrooms. Yeah exactly and like you know. And he would he like we talk about this all the time now. You know like my parents tried to get him to apply himself but he just wasn't able to like some people just don't fit into that mold and then like then came the day where Parents realize oh fuck you know. You'll probably not going to get a union like like it's just you're not going to like and that was fine like like it wasn't like this whole big thing like we all kind of like that. Like maybe you're just not built for like it's fine and my brothers doing what he loves now and like he's any good income and like you know like there are ways right kind of like around things and just kind of like brace maha to see someone like randy who is a circle trying to fit into a square peg and trying very hard to fit into that square peg. You know right. Yeah that that was my thing. That's why i'm lucky. I landed a job that i'm like. You know you have to be kind of. He have to apply the gift of gab. You have to have logical kind of common sense and the after stay calm in the face of people getting pissed and that's three of my biggest strongest points but it was like i. There's no way who goes to college. Be a fucking debt collector. Nobody does you know so. The twin up working out for me. But as if i wanted to be a psychologist and i liked hearing about people's bullshit you know which granted i kind of do on a daily basis anyway. I should've been a psychiatrist but yeah there's a lot of stuff where it's like you know. There's the people who are like you know. I can work my nine to five and i can work and i can get a good job doing something or you'd i can go to school and i can have a profession and major in something and get a job based on this degree or there's randy and it's radi does not fit into any of those randy is like i am a fucking i m entertainer like i i. Yeah i i wanna hear these people you know. I'm i'm bigger than both of these worlds. But together that i think that's kind of what he feels like and then for something bigger and better than both of those worlds which is kinda right you know. He causes sauce canceling appearances retiring. It's the maximum that he's doing this runoff to the daily gig. Right like he's found his safe way to make a living kill him He his door to close again. Really trying his best he and after some coaxing he finally convinces ahead of gut at favorite place. That's this boardwalk. He expresses his life regrets. He was the one who was supposed to take care of everybody. And he doesn't wanna head him and men like rocks really going for the oscar here right. Like rock is brilliant. As he tries to talk to his daughter he finally manages to win her. I may share sweet daddy daughter. Dance what did you think about all this. I kind of like some ten fifteen minutes of the movie and don no. yeah i. I like it a lot. I think that it's a little. you know. His his his reasonings his taking responsibility for fucking everything. Up is good and i like it. I think it's a little far fetched like you relationship. Is this damage to now. You're sharing a daddy daughter. Dance as a little bit farfetched. I think getting her out of the house to come with. You is good enough this little mail. Yeah right yeah. She seems seems a bit quick quick you know but if she had had something where she was like you know what like i can. Harbor this grudge anymore. You know as much as i hate the fact that like you're that you are the ram like but you're also my dad like i want my dad that kind of thing that'd be awesome. You know. I think a lot of people even with bad relationship with parents want some kind of resolution to that to some degree so but yeah but having this whole like let's have the dance that will never have it like your wet em like okay do. This is a bit like it is a. It is a bit much but but it kind of leans into if you don't have this than what comes later isn't as heartbreaking like you know if you see how happy they are in this moment and then like by the time twenty minutes or so when we see stephanie stock literally throwing and pelting things that him like. It's fucking knob raking do. I'm a. I'm a broken piece of me. I'm alone and i deserve to be alone. Is probably one of the best lines of the movie. And it's like you are really south realizing like you bet you fucking get it randy. Pez the visit to cassidy at work. She's of course playing coy. After the loss encounter he gives her a cod thanking us for helping mend his relationship with his daughter and this term as sane ride like. She's fantastic here as you know. She kind of like judges randy's perception other like thinking that she just a stripper but she's actually a mother and a hardworking woman emphasizes that she doesn't go out with customers and like this is every make believe conversation. Have in strip clubs in grand theft auto. Yeah it's just like come on. I can change your life come can maybe i can make things better for you. Yeah there's there's something yeah and there's also something kind of fucked up about the fact of like you know there. There was a spark and there is something happening and she's not leading him on. He kind of initiated that but she of reciprocated it and i get it You know but the you know the the thing is it's it's it's just it's so wishy washy it's the thing none of these guys are picking me up so i'm gonna over in her to talk to you. Within the next moment it happens where not you know. You're a customer your customer. It's like did you if you know. You're moving if you know you're quitting this job. It's okay to maybe those guards down a little bit. You're like what does it matter anymore. I'm leaving like i can kind of open up to this person a little bit. Because he's opened up to me. And i think that ultimately he's in the wrong at the end of this conversation but i think that that's why she's the one to make contact again after the after the scene to find him and i and i dig that i dig that a lot Absolutely i'm one hundred percent agree with you He goes to a wrestling match meets with the restless backstage. This is his crowd ride. Like this is. This is as people These are people the most comfortable with and accept and love him and it goes through drinks at this by this blonde. Who's coming on incredibly strong They go and do blow. Fuck in the bathroom and man. She's definitely est. Grandma like she is loud. The best part after he neo is being addicted may walk away from the bar. Iran was taken. Outside is a man. I'm good you want a drink. And he's like now by that here. But yeah mike this this like thumbnail porn hub. Girl just like what the fuck in her bedroom and shed thought woman. Yeah this is. I mean look i i get this part of the story here. Self-destruction like this is things on going your way of so. You're going to do what you've done for the last. I guess how many years and fuck fuck things up right because this leads to him missing his appointment with his daughter the look on his face when he looks down and sees the boots and he's like oh god. I laughed audibly like his reaction is amazing. Sir good man. This is the this room. Looks like hell ride just like this even a finance helmet on the bed head like right dude at firemen sheets and yellow cases and like god knows what it. What is the ferret for that's terrifying. I love that he just lays lincoln's not even like a by bitch. Just leave walks out rise. It's a ferret. Jesus goes to. Bed wakes atalanta landau and not as full and only to realize he missed the appointment daughter and his escapades or once again ruining his personal life and this is kind of like the mutually exclusive right like he can't have one without the other and it's it's kind of it's really it's it's sad like it's kind of heartbreaking in our right and like there's something coming up to like when he when he shows up to the door and he You know all hell breaks loose way on her way we can write a. Don't fuck let yourself into that house. That's nuts that is a big debt as a big big bad dick move. That is a bad move but then also i. It's also getting to a point where you're rupturing the lives of people around you you know. You're you're kind of causing a fraction between these two women. And that's that's fucked up a good point And there there's there's something there's something that's kind of crazy about the fact that you know. I don't know this is the weakest part of this movie to me is the fact that they had the sandy daughter. Dance amazing zine and. They're kind of feel like they're close not coming back together again and then yeah i understand. He misses the dinner understand. This is still you know he should be back in the shit house again. But you have you started here in the middle and he went up two or three spots and now you're negative five and like dude you're all over the fucking place and it's like and i can't. I can't assign your trauma value system. I understand that. You know it's your. It's your baggage. I get it but at the end of the day. It's like him missing one more thing. Is that anything fucking different than what he's done the whole time and maybe you can argue the fact you've got my hopes up. Made me think the something a glimmer of hope kind of thing right. But i also think at the same time you you know. This guy is going through a transition of life. And it's like you've got to be. I don't know. I don't want to be you gotta be a little bit understanding that you're dead. Pg and it's like i but there is kind of a thing of like you have to understand that like there is something going on with this guy that it's like this is not just like oh i missed your madge because you know i was out there fucking wrestling. You know owen hart. It's like no there's kind of some crazy schick on like behind the scene i just. I think it's weird that they start off just not talking then they have this great relationship and intimidates later. She this the last conversation they ever have. It's a bit much. And i feel like if i feel like if there had been if she had maybe been at the match at the end and he couldn't see your and he jumps anyways and that's the of it that's fucking tragic you know but the whole thing just. I'll never speak to you again because you miss this dinner. You know. I'm like it's a bit much man and i think that i think in two weeks time you know. If he were to show up at that house she would be a. You know maybe a little bit not as cold but the whole thing like i am done. Don't ever come back here. You are nothing to be like lady a okay. Calm down just a little bit. I think that's a bit much. I think this is a bit urine. You're starting a relationship back with your phone. It's going to be rocky. It's not going to be all sunshine. John rabo's the whole way there. It's like there's going to be moments like this. I granted probably shouldn't have happened this fast but i just i think it's a bit much in my personal opinion. I agree i. It does seem a little rush like it seems like It seems like we need to cram like the start of this relationship to the peak of this relationship to the valley of this relationship and like like to go through that whole cycle. You need to come to dedicate a bit more time today sir. Today's characters actors. But that being said. I think the movies like what is now forty seven. It's like a plastic length. Like you know. No kind of like saying that i would take out. There's no saying that. I would like i mean like would put the saint in. Maybe but yeah. I agree it. It seems like they should. They should have been some more time that passed. And some more kinda like bonding moments for this to feel real and it does feel real like Like i don't take me take me wrong. This is mickey rourke and evan rachel wood outstanding here like they are fucking great but yeah hundred centigrade from a story standpoint. It feels a little rush and it doesn't. I'm not sure if i if i fully by as well that she would be this mad after this very short period of time right right she says there is normal fixing this. It's bright permanently. And i'm okay with that it's better right. I mean that's that's the line that's the that's the nile. Now in the coffin right it needs to be something bigger and needs to be something like her graduating needs to be something like her media. It needs to be something big like if it's something big. Yeah you are in the right man but like missing dinner. You know. I if it's if it's a dinner if something menial if it's something small like done it's kind of like if you can if you can miss something small than i. Don are like Yeah slippery slope. Yeah exactly right. Like i mean like where does it kind of thing i mean i hate when people say that it because i miss a dinner. I'm not gonna to show up to your wedding but good faulk dude like on mean again. I don't know specifically what happened in the past. Like i think she's i think she's kind of being like i'm being careful sort of thing as well because i can't afford to be birkin again. Yeah makes sense. Yeah we have the same way he just explodes in the delhi riots. Let's talk about this. This is by the way. Fuck this old lady like makeup your goddamn mind. Like he's like really wanted him in that potato salad. I thought it was going to happen when he starts eating it. He just watching. The slicer seen just popped up buck. Yeah fucking shit dude. God like there's a build up to their ride. The manager walks. Let's did i hate this. Ride the fucking undermining your staff members in front of customers pisses me off like let's pick things up with the line. Fuck offered like darn talk to your employees that way in front of customers like just. Just be fucking mas about it. I'm sorry this guy recognizes him as randy ride. The line of separation between wrestler. An ordinary citizen is starting to blur. You just can't run away from your boss. It's good stuff He cuts his finger deliberately. He's he is fucking terrifying when he stopped raving and just yelling and especially when he was the botanist. I talked to me about this right well. Then there's something. I mean a he's terrifying but as he's marching down the aisle. It feels like you know it was kind of like frankenstein's monster unleashed you know. Or like almost. Like danny de vito and batman like i am not a man on. He's tearing the suit up but there's something about the fact that he's like got all this white on this redemptive white. He's got the white hair net and as he takes off office covered in blood. He rips the hairnet off and he's just ramming shan. It's like dude. He goes he goes fucking ram down the aisle. And that's what i love is by the end of it. He walks in this day as he walks out the ram he mocks covered in blood. Fucking shit up. And i'm like like rejection of like what qualifying like. I'm not going to to to to be a part of the mold because icon by physically Onto this right now. Yeah he re- taste the ayatollah fly and he says i learned care. I just wanna five cassidy. Pays a visit apologizes for how she behaves as the club but she emphasized that she has a line in that she con cross it. It's too little too late. Though right rainey's up getting ready to go to wilmington. I liked the. I like the fact that he's not just like he doesn't stop and even give it any pause the fact that randy she's like by i'm going see this thing that makes sense anymore. Fucking done man. Yeah there's no speech or anything like that like you know like you. You should have been there for me blah blah. It just takes off and leaves. That's the simple as it is by the way just as we're recording this back and patrick harrington posters on the potty. What's the oldest movie earned. And what i mean by that is. How long ago did you buy it. And it's like a fire fucking red dawn. Patrick this is all you're getting. We early giving you the rest. I'm sorry i've literally patrick. I'm liking it as i'm saying this. That's the best part. I wish we could do some live chat. You can hear an heartbeat. Well we can have that organised. The burners fade probably. Maybe maybe randy in idaho la. This is played by mila who was a real wrestling aren't as the cat By the way we name for a wrestle the cat yeah our very very manly very very masculine. They work at the flight. While cassidy's mind is elsewhere while she works he packs up and takes off to the fight. I read about this. This is symbolic apparently when a wrestler quits they leave their boots in the ring so she left her shoes at the strip club. I think is kind of like i saw. Yeah i saw something like that. And then i didn't know that that's interesting. It's like throwing analogous kind of exactly like raising the white flag. We get the right like this is. This is the fight like did i miss something. Hold on my well. We'll talk about the fight in general but Ran he's going to have a conversation with cassidy just before the actual fought so this is shot during the ring of on his double faye shaw jazzy and filming took place over the weekend. A fourteenth marsh does night which were pretty stack shows. There was a this is a real audience by the way like this crowd there and apparently when he's making his big speech here the audience were booing him and just jeering at him. Darren earn off. Ski comes up and just pretty much tells them off. So it's like hey this is supposed to be a full on emotional moment for this character so shut the fuck up and take this like you know. And then that's awesome. The crowd understood the importance of the sane and then they started chanting. We fucked up. We fucked up. That's awesome but yeah. Apparently the crowd actually got an alternate ending to the movie they actually saw the movie ends While the real obviously we know the movie ends with the ram jumping off the top rope and then it cuts black The live crowd so randy his ram jim finisher and pin the tola in three the elia but yes so randy prize He has this. He has a feeling right that this is the last go around. I wonder if he prize before every flight. Or just this one. That'll be really interesting to know Yeah yeah because you really see him do that a lot. That is really interesting. Custody means him just for five he says mahad still take him and heard is out there. The world doesn't give a shit about me right. I mean like he knows and the service paul he he knows like he's very well aware that the world has give a shit about. It might not like situation. You have a character who is just kind of like pushing to that. They don't really realize he fully realizes that he's not meant to be a part of the world like this is where i support right right right right custody responds with on here. What do you call that. What do you think about that ryan like. She's she's retorts with. I'm here what he called out right. Yeah i think there is something also about like this is your last. It's kind of like the first season of breaking bad with elliott. We'll pay for your chemo treatments. Like this is your last out the this. Is you know if you stay on this bus. This bus is going to the station. There's no more stops this. Is it the last call this. This is the final thing this and there's something really interesting about the fact that it's like she kind. She pulls like a whiten like a white knight in shining armor like she likes shows up on horseback. And i'm ready to take away from all this stuff and he's just like now like now. Nothing makes sense to me anymore. It's i kind of. That's where i feel like jerry king in that way the gary. I don't care if i die. Completing the golden mile. This is the only thing that makes fucking sense anymore. And it's so sad but there's also so many times in your life when you can kind of relate to that as well where it's like. I hit point raum lake. You know i. I just now turned thirty. I'm hitting the point where like wait. What's tiktok my what is and i'm hitting points from like shit hasn't really make sense anymore and like up is down in. Facts aren't facts and you know just crazy shit that i'm like it doesn't matter you know there's there's so much software back today you could like prove something like a fact and it's like now there's just not that doesn't exist anymore. There's no there's no guarantees there's neo and it's a scary world if you're out there on your own and it's like bach man like a. What am i just go back doing. What i do and just leave their leave it all out there on the mad. You can't blame him for what he does. I i really don't think you can econ- absolutely and like he's being beaten and bergen and this is where he finds himself and this is as early kinda like rest by it's It's good stuff I'm i'm just gonna say his final speech actually kinda burke me right. I mean like this. This whole space that he'd lose it I'm just going to read this out. It's a little lengthy but just stick with me because it's it's incredibly heartbreaking And mickey rourke talk he says. I just want to say to you old snot. I'm very grateful to be a lot of people told me that i'd never wrestle again. And that's all i do. You know if you live hard and play hard and burn the candle at both ends you pay you pay the price for you know in this life. He can lose everything that you love everything that loves you now. Now i don't hear as good as i used to and i forget stuff and i ain't as pretty as i used to be but god damn it i'm still saying aired on the ram you know as time goes by as time goes by. They say he's washed up. He's finished. He's a loser he's her you know what the only one that's going to tell about the only one. That's going to tell me when. I'm through doing my thing. Is you people here. You people here you people here are the only ones worth bringing. Fuck fuck it up. Your people here are the ones who are worth bringing at all because your family. I love all your thank you so much is now you know why i read this one. Take all of this now. Every time i do all my one take him off man. We started this episode fifteen minutes leg. Because you fuck off dude. That's gotta go and like the after the music fades away and it just on radio. Fuck all right guys. Stick around off. The music is done for the atrocities. But yeah this is a man this is. This is it right. This is this is the this is the movie. This is why he dies year and he hundred percent is i know it's supposed to be a lifetime biggest but come on us right. Yeah well. that's what i've heard you know. I've heard aronovski say that you know. And that's what it feels like if he jumps and he lands and he doesn't die it just kind of undermines a lot of stuff right right the medically it. Just it doesn't it doesn't it doesn't wave with a lot of that stuff. And and that's that's what i don't dig is the fact that look bob is. He's like i moved on with my life. You know. I'm fat and happy. And i run a used car lot and like all everybody around me has moved on with their lives. And you know what's interesting is when he's in that room with the older guys at the american legion. They're all lot older than he is. But not by much like they're not you know i guess a lot wouldn't be the right where they're older than he has been not by a lot but there's something interesting back that something interesting about the fact that he is the only one wrestling and that group of men looks like. He's the only one who still kind of actively wrestling. And he's getting the fake spray tan. He's dying his hair and what's amazing about the hair dye that i never get as that. He never quite gets it. All the way died. And i'm like oh dude you can see the terrible. Like routes and my. How do you still you pay somebody to look like the shit like that like. that's the. That's the phenomenal part. But when he gets up there do it and he fucking starts and he slashed those arms and the frame rate of when he jobs. And you're like dude. It's so sad and lindy. I are watching this and it goes black. And she's like. Oh that's fucking bullshit and i was like eyes and she's he does way what she's like the inception day and now he he dies and it's kind of supposed to be left open to interpretation but i just i really don't. His heart is failing the whole time. The refs checking on him. Tola check writing nudie dies he riot aid is our yeah exactly. There's basically no evidence that he saw like to indicate that he might survive like it's just it's owns honestly like balance of probabilities right. I mean like like if you balanced probabilities. It's more likely that he dies. And it's even just from a medical standpoint is just better if he dies and like i know that's fucking downside sad but i think that's just the reality of it in like i think that's just the entire last hour and fifty minutes of movie that's been set up. So there is a brilliant line from bob right before he climbed the term. Whatever those things are the corner and he's like penny penny we've given them enough. Yes yes that's your whole life. You have given these people enough in like they are fighting to remember you. move on. Move to florida live on the beach. Do something somewhere else and have enjoy the rest of your life. Because you know. You're you're like you said he's burning the candle at both ends like he is obliterating you know he could probably live another ten five ten fifteen years and he is obliterating it all in one night but the moment he looks up to that crack and he looks to see if marissa's aaron she's gone and you're like man that really fucking that really really fucking sox that's the moment when right before he clients and he's like i'm fucking done with a man but there's also something interesting about the fact that he is someone who is the relationship that he wants to. His daughter is being cut off from him. But he's also the one cutting off the relationship from orissa may so it's not like he's being rejected on both ends. He voluntarily severs one but But also has one forcibly severed from him. I think there's also something interesting about that. The fact that you have something that is being taken away. But you're voluntarily rejecting something at the same time you have an out and you choose not to take it. That's very very interesting to me. Yeah yeah that is interesting are maybe maybe it's because he realized that mercer Character is probably like she will probably always say that line between customer and blubber like you know like like because before she leaves even though she's yell for him right now he ought caring about him before he leaves for wilmington hate. She says look. I can't look that line like you who you will always be a cosmetically. I'm sorry like you know like it's just And like maybe that's the maybe that's it. Maybe that's why he decided ties and just buying it nine. My i think that. I given if you watch the kiss. He plants one on her and then she disliked jump san and that's like dan that's the real her and that moment and that's that's what might you know. I think that she once once she walks. She quit the job. Who cares if he's a customer anymore you know. She has some type of feelings for him you know. Obviously he wants to have a family and he wants to have a child and have some kind of relationship and the fact that there's not a whole lot of guys white lining up to do that for a forty year old ex stripper you know and it's like this guy. He's a nice guy he's very likable. You know he stands up for her and he does a lot of this stuff but at the same time if when he gets pissed. He's also kind of terrifying. You know so. I think there's something at the end. I i think that. I think that's why it's there. Because he's denied the thing that he wants but he's also offered something as a substitute of just like you can start again. You can literally leave a life with a wife and a child and common be here and be a part of my life with me and a new child and be a part of this. And you're outright rejecting it and i think that it really comes down to the fact of like this role doesn't make sense anymore. I get that. And i understand that you know the whole thing of like frankenstein's monster if i can inspire love i will inspire fear that kind of thing that makes sense to me but that only works if there's not an offer on the table there's an offer on the table for you to leave this life. And it's it's that's where the walter white. That's where heisenberg separate from walter white. That's where you know it stops being randy and it turns into the ram for me. That's a you want this. This is how you want this to end. I just think the. I just think this is too little too light like you know. I think it's as simple as that like it's just it's a good point you know like the the world has thrown sorry much shit year and merged the time is character had cermony. I'm gonna say opportunities to you know shack up with him and like run off with him and his kid together. I get together new live. But it's just it's just too little too late like i think that's that's really it like. It's as simple as that you know like there's just never coming back. He's he's made his mind up. He's decided that this wrestling is all i have. The fans are all i ask. This is all i'm good at. There is ner point living anymore doing something that i'm not good at and it makes me feel like shit doing something that i'm not good at as we saw in the in the delhi seen united started like. He's someone who really really bates himself alive. When he's trying to do a job like the delhi sane. And i don't think he can keep doing like Like his body physically is breaking down. And you need a body physically to be able to do wrestling. You know you you just you just. It's just a fact alive. And i'd i honestly think it's as simple as that man like like if you it's just too little too late and that's a tragedy of like you know that's just the that's just the bottom line like she. She just got here. She met him up way to light. I think and it's actually causing. Ramazi has batman this whole thing. This whole like the doctor is is problematic but the lines that gadget. You don't are these people anymore. You've given them. Everything and batman has just like not everything not yet like you know like de this whole saying here i really dig i- atallah just being like hey dude even just like asking him to pin him. A lot of this is actually. Mickey rourke ride like when he gets the ayatollah head between his legs when he's on the rope She looks up to see cassidy but she's gone. Ride like corrective wrong wrong right now. He looks right throws yeah right and like that's that i think is super important. Because that is kind of when he goes up to do the ram jam ride like that is an important factor in our like fucking his tickets dying out and it's just like well i'm going to look and say my saving graces there literally my angel looking up to me and she's not there he does one ranjini and he's gonna cut to black com- bomb bomb exhausted. Did this is such a fucking song. Springsteen s on her yeah love it. Love it dirt. I was like because the cost of lack and the the cut like it holds on black for so long like probably fifteen seconds. And i'm just like is there anything else and then the credit come up and i was like. Oh shit okay. Cool already here. We go man. I absolutely love this. Before we give out final thoughts raid patrick's email because he fucking email us. Why couldn't find it man in common. It's weird yeah look limited. This is lengthy so grab yourself a drink and sit back and relax. Patrick says oh. Happy day man. I don't even know where to start with this movie. I'll be watching wrestling since. Nineteen ninety eight. There was a dip from there was a dip from watching while i was in college and post college. But it's always been a part of my life. I'm also a major aronovski fan and he says in parentheses did pile now not long ago veteran. Mary people watch movies. So this was a match made in the squared circle that he must podcast I didn't say it in the movie theaters. I was a poor college at the time. But i did scrape together some money for that david. Eight haven't seen wrestle. Having seen restless hit rock bottom. O'dell young this hits me hard. Mickey rourke hits at out of the park with his performance of a guy who used to be the top of the cod and just fell off a cliff he emotions. He put on puts on the screen when he's trying to mend fences with his daughter. When he's trying to have a connection with cassidy he's primarily at the end of the movie with the roi h crowd goddamn. It gets you misty as a fan. You can just say some of the guys you used to. You used to watching his performance. I'm sure a lot of them had issues. Like this. just look documentaries on jake. The snake roberts or the iron sheik that had fucked up person lives outside of wrestling was really interesting looking at it with a twenty twenty lands. Is that a guy like randy could have had a second life would youtube and social media. Had he just had live prince as on. He does at the end in the ring in the ring. The way he'd wanna go out. There are companies that run almost exclusively through youtube like nwa. Prince says national wrestling alliance on by bill by fucking billy corgan hogan billy corgan big. He's from smashing pumpkins aurora. I was like wrestling fan also. Nwa is not the first thing i think of when the l. No it's the neighborhood watch alliance from come on fuck the ball from the immigrant community service lease on the neighborhood watch ally in the living statue. Man he goes on a sudden wrestlers also have their in youtube channels and social media huge. The iron shake pretty much found a second life during twit up. Then there's the convention second in the website pricing tease. You think guys who grew up on that. Oh started watching. His old matches wooden fork over twenty to twenty five dollars for a randy. The ram shut. Come on he'd be fucking wrecking. The money on. That site conventions are also much different now than they were back. Then you see randy and these other charts peddling does types in high school gym in the movie whereas today. That'd be booked vegas vegas casino to go along with maj of iran. By w w w dennis is interesting. Actually appoint like that point. Yeah in terms of like. Yeah but i wonder if it's actually i was gonna lack of management. Yeah i was gonna say. I wonder if it's a lack of breaking out because i guess to get into the wwe. You need to be a little. I don't know like you need prestige like you need some kind of like following but randy has the right. I think it's i think he needs some kind of end for that. Yeah patrick finishes by saying. I'm pretty excited to talk about this. If all the shit offset advised. Today i didn't make that obvious. This is an episode of my show. One another shot at. Because i did have just soul. I went baba's seek one week. I may george lucas special edition that shit. That'll be over now. Big emphasis on the court for now part of that sentence herb everyone. The mdf side is doing well and safe from these very fun and exotic times. Definitely talk as he says. I'm gonna do. I'm gonna go pal on my kids now. That's great just put a buzzer mattresses at the bottom of the steps and just take all the way down. You're going nowhere. I'm gonna kill you. Lend wrestling with kids. You just lay a bunch of legos floor and just power sleep. Took kids death match. Thank you sign patrick. And look like. I said you're you're definitely spot to this movie and i am glad that we did because this movie was a fucking bost. We did get a few comments as well. Rick rick tuesday says all hell. I like to call it what i was doing a side job. Khalas freitas Will pretty much kinda like pointed out that Descript had funding this one movie. Yup definitely great in tommy lumber. dozy tommy's checked like checking in with us after so long. He original our original logo original on. He says great movie. Mickey should've won the stupid oscar. Plus marisa tomei lavar fucking love. I think this is actually fucking altana. Man i bought this movie. I could've rented it. But i was just like fucking i'm gonna pay the twelve dollars and just by this navy 'cause i like i like it. And lo and behold i fucking love demand. Mickey rourke is absolutely incredible in this movie. i'm not the biggest rick. Mickey rourke guess aficionado. He's done. But i can probably tell you that this is probably a career defining performance like this is probably that like this. Is that one role that amac to guess that it's just like i'm gonna fucking swing for the fences and that i'm not gonna the puck and man. He did he fucking nugget out of the box. Mr tarmac fantastic and supporting role. Darren off aronovski directing and just to just to Not show in cape a lot of things. Subtle that we brought up during the podcast was really fantastic. That i really really enjoy watching Was really really fantastic. And it was interesting to actually talk wrestling. You know like i. This is a a sport or a. I guess like an entertainment field. That doesn't really come on the podcasts. A lot mainly because you and i on that big fans of it but it's really it was. It was really interesting to kind of like get to talk about. You know things like blading and things like how like these guys you know probably end up like mostly washed up and this is they can do. Yeah it's really fascinating are glad we covered this movie. Dude me too i'm calling it and your final watch cutoff. No i'm just kidding. My my i mean really what have you know what can be said that i haven't had in the last three hours. I i really liked this movie. It's a great movie about Self-destruction about obsession. You know about trying to find a second you know. The thing is he constantly spits in the face of new opportunities but he's always trying to flourish out or response stuff. That happened a long time ago and it doesn't really seem like he's prepared to just kind of take the next step in just move on with his life and his inability to do that or his refusal to do that. Not that he can't he just kind of implode and just can't do. It is refusal to do that is alternately is what his downfall is in such a tragic character. There's something fantastic about that Yeah it's the. I've heard a lot of people said i haven't seen a lot of aaron oskoui's stuff a lot of people say. His obsession is kind of his game with a lot of films. A hundred percent right. yeah So i think there's something interesting about that. I think fits the bill perfectly. There's something there in his character that goes. It's not quite obsession to me. It's more of just like this is where i feel like i belong. This is where i feel like. I made an impact. And where i actually have some kind of authority were actually feel like i have some kind of say repeat. We'll still listen to me where people so care about me. Wanna know i can understand it. I empathize with his character. A lot like why he get sucked into that world I think that i mean again. This is like the rocky of wrestling movies. I would say it's probably better than rocky This this is fantastic. And it's it's it's. It's got a lot of stuff. They're very very similar movies But i would say that this is probably a better version of rocky and no offense to rocky. I liked the first one actually like the second one better I think really twos no answers of all time i like. I like rocky do. He's got yellow kids running behind him up the steps and shed. I really dig it. But this movie i i love it i would say it's i would say it's probably a nine out of ten. Maybe a maybe like at eight point seven five. The ship with his daughter just really throws me off. It's in there's something about that that sticks in me that i don't dig If not for that. I would say it's probably just about perfect but you know i would say probably eight point five nine nine amazon or something i really really dig it You know and i hope it's i hope we see more stuff out. Mickey rourke like that. I hope he kind of. It's been twelve years since this came out. Which is nuts. I thought when we are doing this twenty sixteen to two thousand eight lawsuits. Ten tim allen in the mirror and the santa claus like he just turns like white-bearded air. I'm just. I'm just. I'm an mickey rox career and just saying what's coming up. He's got one two three four five six seven eight movies in pre production right now. Sorry oh well i'm sorry. Father pre production started three hundred as a pre production of those are in parts production. So they had done wild. Wow you take singer guy. I'm sure he works his ass hampsters. I'm gonna work a holiday or something Do you want me to get us out of here. You fucking guys. You want to check us out. You can find on instagram at midnight. Double feature you can find us on twitter. It'd be pot. there's also a facebook group called midnight double feature. We have a group. Attach that call the after party. Everybody's invited June email midnight double feature a g mail dot com. Stop by police. Check us out on patriot. 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Episode 104: Mickey Rourkes new attack on Robert De Niro is old beef

We Hear

25:53 min | 1 year ago

Episode 104: Mickey Rourkes new attack on Robert De Niro is old beef

"Down we hear Mickey Rourke is slamming Robert Deniro in a fiery instagram post August Alsina dropped a Raunchy song about Jada Pinkett Smith and of course it's called entanglements and selling sunset star Amanda Smith is on the mend after Chiro making disaster coming up next on we here. Oh my God. Divorced slashed excise page six. Pages, six hundred field. Hey there Maggie toggle. And more welcome to. We hear a paid sick. Leave here all the celebrity dirt Mark Souza sources, and you hear the story behind the story. What I am absolutely obsessed with today is the beef. My point out a long standing beef between Mickey. Rourke and Robert Deniro. You're not the only one who's obsessed with his story Maggie because it's our number one trending story on page six. Dot Com who knew well I get I. Don't even WanNa. Say Who Knew I. I feel like Mickey work. Sort of annually has one blockbuster story this point still per year, but it's you grumpy. Old dudes feuding with each other Mickey Rourke blasted Robert Deniro on Instagram, but it turns out that this few dates all the way back to nineteen, eighty seven I. Guess I'll get to that in a minute, but what Micky work say Mickey Rourke is proving that you never really age out of. He's sixty seven years old coming for the seventy six year, olds and euro, basically on Friday Mickey Rourke, posted a photo of Deniro instagram. And he wrote this. Hey Robert Deniro. That's right. I am talking to you you big Ethin- crybaby. A friend of mine just recently told me that a few months back. You're quoted as saying two newspapers. He talks kind of Shit. Listen Mr Tough guy in the movies. You're the first person that ever called me a liar and it was in a newspaper. I mean these were advocating for print media. That's cool. I love that I love. We don't have so many. Items these days where the word newspaper is. Very into this, it's like they're speaking another language that only you and I can understand. So then el-sisi also call them a punk ass right. Oh, yes, it gets better Martin Scorsese great director. He wanted to meet me for a movie with Al Pacino. Joe Pesci Chris Walk in and Robert Deniro. Rourke had previously said on an Italian TV show, and the casting person allegedly told rox manager that Deniro said. He refused to work with him in a movie. Or here is that work is claiming he was not cast in the Irishman because Robert. Deniro said he wouldn't work with Mickey Rourke Yeah so so. Also said in this instagram post. Let me tell you something you punk ass when I see you I swear to God on my grandmother on brother and all my dogs. I'M GONNA. Embarrass you severely one hundred percent. That is. And then he related God is my witness Ooh. That is how a sixty seven year old man says onsite. You ever hear somebody. Say Onsite like when I see you I'm GonNa up who. This is all very I've told you before in Brooklyn on the streets when I was growing up. If someone came up to you and said someone you've never seen before, said Yo. Why'd you mess with my cousin? You knew that it was about to go down this very Weiji mess of my cousin. Up But? Yeah, so this beef goes back decades, but he basically said that Robert Deniro blocked him from being cast in the Irishman Deniro. The producers of the film and the casting directors of the film said they refuted that, and said that Mickey work could never been considered for a role in the movie now one thing is that film was a very long jesting project, right? It had been going on for years. The development of Of that movie had been going on for years and years and years and Deniro into had been trying to make it for a very long time, so I mean. I just wonder if it's unclear, if maybe in some previous iteration of the movie who knows maybe there had been talk about Mickey being involved, but obviously deniro in the producers denied. That wasn't in that movie. I'm shocked exactly. That's probably by Mickey. Work is upset. Everyone, else, but the interesting, a- the rest of his instagram feed is so random the post before he slams Robert De. Niro is of some woman in a bikini from Russia like practicing traps from other people girlfriends. Though we might have Robert that he has a I think he has a Russian bikinied girlfriend. He's gone after people before on instagram. pretty hard. I mean the one thing about this. That's also kind of confusing is as you mentioned this. This Irishman situation went back a number of months, so it's unclear. What precipitated this new flurry? You know in other words, so mickey work says that his friend told him that Robert. Deniro had been. Quoted as saying two newspapers. Mickey. Works Aligarh. He talks all kinds of shit, but it's like. Is that going back to this like a delayed? Ah Game of telephone amongst. Geriatric Hollywood set. Yeah, like what did maybe the friend because that happens like for instance last night as up way too late I was out to go to bed, but then I realized that I hadn't read the Sunday papers, which is still get so then I started like you know so. You have a stack of newspapers or maybe all those old issues of the New Yorker that you keep meaning to get through or Harper's magazine so similarly. Maybe Mickey Works Friend. It's like you know. He was way behind on these newspapers. And then got to some like. Year old feature in Parade magazine. Magazine Yeah. Hey Mickey called Mickey. Deniro's talking a lot of shit about you in the newspapers in April. This shit talking now, the funny thing is though so far. Deniro has stayed mum on this feud in fact when we had. Reached out to his rap and asked if he wanted to comment on this latest, go round with Mickey. Rourke, I believe he got a one word reply, which was no, so I don't know if we're going to be hearing from Robert De Niro but then again, Deniro. He's pretty outspoken so I think while he might not be officially commenting right now I I'm sure this isn't the last we've heard of this. Meanwhile, things are business as usual for Mickey, Rourke because his last Instagram, post is a photo, a re post of Norbert, the dog and it says one of my fave into friends love him. Wow back to dogs. He just goes. To sort of extremes, it's either like rage and swearing on my grandmother and were like. I'm going to beat you to a bloody pulp, but look at this little dog and how cute he is, he's one of my favorite friends. The the thing that I love about this story, too. Though, Maggie is that it turns out that this beef between Mickey Work and Robert. Deniro goes back to a nineteen eighty seven film that they starred in together called. Angel Heart and I. Guess it the time. It's unclear what happened on the set, but Mickey work has said that he felt deniro snubbed him in some way. Anyway, Deniro meantime has been going through of course crazy divorce and custody battle, so he has been in the news lately. I. Just I feel like Deniro's. Deniro's Deniro's pretty outspoken I've seen Deniro go nuts. I was at a I was at an award show once where Robert Deniro is being honored and one of the other honorees was the guy the guy who invented slack, so that guy? This lake sort of Startup Tech Dude? He goes up to accept the award. And he said very innocently and nicely like wow, I can't believe I'm being honored in the same award show. Is Robert Deniro? I even watch the Godfather to on the plane here from San Francisco to New York and. That's it, and then Deniro went up there, and he just said at the podium is like basically like insinuated that this guy was talking shit about him, and said he heard these comments and just like. You, so I feel like you know what I mean and that was a lot less. I mean all the guy said is I enjoyed the Godfather to? Going to say that Mickey work, I mean I think there's GonNa be a comeback. He's laying in wait. Is it easy to threaten someone in a pandemic? Because they can't really get near you? Especially at their age well I, think you're specifically talking about hand to hand combat. There are many ways to injure a person from six feet away. Like poison, Dart. Bought about. Hey we see you caring for others taking care of your loved ones. It's hard work even for superhumans like you. You had some help. It's time you met your new sidekick. Heroes. Hero is your medicine. Cabinet reinvented the hero Pill Dispenser Sorts. All daily medications delivers them with the push of a button. 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Is that would hurt and it's on red. Red Tape, we'll talk her facebook. Watch show. Watch it so hard to keep track on her red table talk show with will Smith. And she referred to her relationship with August. Alsina has an entanglement, but then she also said it was relationship, but now he is a new song called entanglements, and it's actually. I mean. Who else does he entangled with? Is he going to spill the Tian another major Hollywood player like he did on Jada? This makes me believe there's more entanglements common. So what are the lyrics to this song I I I feel like he's making some references to Jada and will Smith in the tune. Okay so here we go the chorus the definition of entanglement. It's when you're tangled in the sheets. True girl I know that we don't call it a relationship, but you're still F- in with me. Modern Day. He's right. And then there's also like a little veiled reference to will Smith. That sort of is basically saying like. When your man's not around I'm going to be pulling up. I would like you to read that part, please. Let's see. Like, to do a dramatic reading of August Alsina Rick rots track. Well. That's the thing, so. Rick Ross is on the track, but also Rick Ross came up with the idea for this track, and this kind of to me shows the brilliance of Rick Ross. Aka Show. Yes, because so basically the reason this entanglement song came out was because Rick Ross was on instagram stories, and he any was saying after the whole Jada. Pinkett Smith August Alsina. Thing. Blew up that August. Alcyone is actually really good singer and. People should wait for entanglements album and it sounded like he was joking, and it was actually pretty funny, but now he is on his actual track, called entanglements and the thing. I love about this, too, is that? You know in the in the digital era of music. You know especially initially It always there are a lot of reports about you know sort of bad for artists and record labels because people can pirate the music. The music is out there. That artists don't get enough money for the streams end, etc, but the great thing about the digital era for artists. Is that as soon as something happens in your life two days later? You could just put out a song about it. You know what I mean, so it's like. Real time so it was pretty smart of Augusta I literally I honestly. I had never heard of August Alsina before this. And I. Don't think an and I don't think I'm alone right? I mean, did you were you like? An Auto Fan. Now I A fan. I wasn't even aware that existed. And we have do. We have to pay for this. Angela friend of the PODCAST who did an interview with him? And that's where he revealed he had been which Jada but I actually am kind of surprised. It took this long for the songs. Come out because the red table talk episode premiered on July tenth and it racked up fifteen million views in the first twenty four hours, which like broke facebook, statistic history, and now it's like the most viewed video. She has on her whole channel. So I mean what's Today looking at a ten day turnaround time? That's that's kind of a long time for singing into a Mike and putting it on some beach and getting Rick Ross total. I'm I'M GONNA? Hit you with some more entanglement lyric. Cool I was GONNA say. The song is only the first step I think what's next is merch. Bo Mike Things. Yes so are you ready for more entanglement lyrics? See this I believe. In My. in this will be included in Yale dissertation on. entanglements. I I believe this part refers to will Smith. Are you ready? Maggie, he says. I'm a pull up when he dip skirt. Just, spit. Spit take on my mic. That was such A. Skirt. I'm a poem when he dip. He's always think me in you, F. F N. If he see. He's GonNa trip. House with no key girl you know, aft up your hair. Lay you down and hit it right there. Oh My, we gonNA. Keep it poppin shoddy you my little secret. Then he repeats that line for emphasis. Apparently, it wasn't wrong because Jada and will maintain that they were separated and I quote I don. He's. This narrative that they were sneaking around the shadows to be with each other, but it sounds like. They need to might have been separated I. I, I'm going with Song I kind of believe the song. This is good i. mean what a rebuttal this is this is. This is a rebuttal. Listen if we've learned anything from Jada use your scandal. To get those views. Selling sunset has proved to be a big hit for net flicks. It's a reality show about very beautiful real estate agents, selling homes that are worth millions and millions of dollars, Chelsea Hirsch from page. Six Dot Com, spoke with Amanda Smith This Week and Wall in quarantine. A man's have found herself having a bit of a true disaster. Yeah I saw Maggie I should say he's the listener is hitting that lake ten second rewind button or on your? Fast, forward, rewind rewind thing. It is not Amanda Smith. It's a Manza. Which is for me? This is perfect because while I don't as you know from Brooklyn. The Street entanglements. But that that is technically we would say Amanda Anyway like where I'm from Amanda Amanda. It's like Oh. Yeah, actually end. Maybe, that's why I don't know where a man is the number Amanda Anyway, so what happened with the Manza Okay so? She was actually hospitalized because she sustained third degree burns while making chose with her daughter. This is. The dark side of the pandemic baking with your child. I was just hearing someone the other day talking about how she was trying to bake and she hit the hot. Cookie Sheet and left kind of burn on her wrist anyway. You know those kind of you. Fry Them. There's oil involved. And she explained that the hog grease just exploded out of the pan in about two or three cups of bit, got onto her wrist arm and hand you. Sorry go. She said looked like something out of an alien movie Oh. You like there's the show the deadliest catch. the deadliest desert. The deadliest snack. The deadliest snack. Yeah. Anyway so basically, she had to go to the hospital. She has two kids. She's a single mom. She's trying to figure out. How are they going to treat this? Burn I self to watch my kids and she said that when they when they all the hospital. The staff of the hospital is working on her arm and trying to distract from the pain by asking her worth. At least good. How do they turn out? Are you GonNa? Keep? Making is in the future and she was like okay. Can Somebody please stop saying the word euros? I never WANNA. See another zero again I love that. I love. And I don't think I'd be able to eat another one if I had suffered third degree burns well, that's the I like eating Tros, but now I just have newfound respect for the people that are making them on the frontlines of tros making it's agony. Yasser that she looks like Sushi was hospitalized for a week. I think not just like a little visit to the ER, and then they wrap it up and send you home. She said her arm looks like the mummy. She was hospitalized. Very dangerous. This is now my second favourite ever selling sunset item selling sunset. You're GonNa have to tell our audience? In case they don't watch the show about the show because I know you're a stilling sunset fan. But I have become a huge fan. When I was on vacation, I took some time to watch it because season three years premiering. Netflix X. and you know you want to be caught up. With what people are talking about so basically? This is the secret sauce. Selling sunset was created by Adam Develo who. was the genius behind the hills, so you're looking at these like highly saturated images very warm overhead shots of Sunny Los Angeles million dollar homes, women who all look like models teetering around high heels. You're finding out there. Possible commissions that are more than like me. Entire household incomes and there are pregnant pauses between every interaction. He can make drama out of like. A, fly Passing mature. Like this guy is genius and making drama from reality TV, but it's great, because it is like you feel like you're traveling to L. A. Even when you're stuck in your New York apartment and I was never so big on La Myself. I always thought it was whatever, but if I could live in a forty million dollar home in La. I'd be all about it. Wow, so this show. follows the staff of a a real estate firm that. Owned by this Guy Jason. Oppenheim right. Yeah, they're owned by Jason, but it was founded by. Thumb the tumor, so it's actually. The group was actually founded by Jason and bread. Who are twin brothers and now we've just reported that Brett has exited the brokerage Jason's running point, but it's really like a visual s'mores or like you have these two twin brothers, identical twins running point you have all these beautiful women. You have all of these incredible houses. You have sunny glossy looking shots la I. It's like being hot tub for your eyes. It's so relaxing to watch despite these women fighting with each other, and the other thing is that we've been reporting on some of their personal lives for awhile like Cra. Shell Daas was married to Justin Hartley from this. Is US season three are going to see that. Yeah. Got See to be I. Think to be like a flashy real-estate agent in La. You need to have like these names are amazing Amanda and Chris Shell. We've also been reporting about. Heather Rae young who's dating a Tarik Al L. Mussa who was on flip or flop? Yuna, so we've been reporting on them. She was like the new girlfriend for a while, but things are pretty serious among them and spending time together. They lived together, and there's a lot of kind of interesting personal drama going on there. Yeah, so my favorite selling sunset item before this truce. Explosion I mean obviously thank. God demands. It was okay. WAS THAT JASON? Oppenheim back in April was alerted by security at the firm that there was a Nikkei guy who had broken into his Bentley. I wait the cameras around for that. He had told us the time in back in April that they said there's a naked guy in my car. And is he a friend of mine? He said sure enough. There is a guy in my backseat naked. He locked himself in and was holding my keys, and showing them to us, and the alarm was going off so basically the cops came. They got the naked guy. Guy Out of the car. They put some clothes on him, and then Oppenheim told us I wiped my car down for like two hours now the reason that guy jumped in the car was because I guess he keeps it on. He keeps the Bentley unlocked when he's at the office I guess. Maybe if there's like a big deal going down, you gotta run outside and jump in the car and race. That's pretty trusting. One but with the keys in it come on. He doesn't do that anymore. Though he's not from the mean streets of Brooklyn in. You would never do that exactly so the thing is exactly in my car. There'd be no radio sign in it. Driver carries no. Point! We're in the wrong business Maggie although I. So bad I have to say I would suck at sales me, too. That's why we're not in that line of work. We don't. We're great at talking. Our show would be called like million dollar. I don't WanNa, be. Don't want to. Talk to you about kitchen islands and walk in closets I don't care. You'll be a good sales, thing or today. You could say like you know what this would be a perfect second home for your various entanglement. that. Is it for this episode here? Our show is produced by Jamila. Williams Melissa Castro's, we would love to hear your questions and your ideas for the show. Let us know if there are any celebrities he wants to cover by emailing US HAVE TODD CASTS AT NY? POSTS DOT com to your the latest. We hear episode. Be sure to hit those dry on apple podcasts, spotify or any verb podcast platforms and please don't forget to leave us a review. We'll be back tomorrow with more paid six see about.

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286: The Oscars 5, 10, and 20

The Popcast With Knox and Jamie

59:29 min | 2 years ago

286: The Oscars 5, 10, and 20

"What are your odds? Are if I gave you a hundred one okay? Okay. A hundred to one. So if you bet a hundred dollars. Okay, do I get one dollar get a hundred times a hundred if I'm right? I shouldn't have started this much math this, Mr. Alabama. If you bet one hundred dollars, and it pays off you get a lot of money. Okay. Will there be some kind of Bradley Cooper, pissing his pants visual gag? No, they're one hundred to one. Now there won't okay? It's very disappointing. And I I would like to see that. I just I don't think anyone is on this Bradley Cooper, pissing his pants thing is like I am. And I just I feel bad for meals. Hello and welcome Deb, a two eighty six of the podcast. I'm wondering employed, and I'm your host, Jamie. Golden the podcast is a show dedicated to the life. Oh, and we're committed educating you on the things entertained, but do not matter to find out more about these cinematic pursuits check us out at Knox and Jamie dot com. 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It felt like it was still too soon. Even though it's been too soon. To talk about murdered president. Speaking of too soon. Do we need to feel like we owe the listeners a explanation for to individually, but still very excessively dramatic Instagram posts. Well, here's the thing. So I was on Instagram stories if you follow me at Jamie, golden, which I encourage you to do. So I had posted about that. I went on a shopping spree Friday night because I'd gone to Alta, and I spent a lot of money, and then I went to Barnes and noble, and it's been a lot of money because I'd had a really tough week. And then you double down and the inaugurum five what isn't any agree five do in stress. They us supposed to go to seven. I know which is you wake up, and you're like, I can change the world. But you posted like yet, another one of your surfaces, your whiteboards, and you wrote something like it was like, suddenly my next six months have gone from. Yay. But you did it in. Sure, I did. So people were very concerned about us. They were they were an, unfortunately, we're not super at liberty to say, it's not bad. It's not bad. It's really not bad. And we're just not at liberty to say who's on our list now. Yes, there are people on our list. Yes. They've made the battles. I I'll do maybe I'll do like an Instagram stories post. And if you wanna DM me, your theory what it's about a great idea. Whoever gets right. I'll give you a fifty dollar Amazon gift card. If you're going to get a right like, you gotta get spot participation. You gotta get read. That's right. So Knox McCoy. Right. But this episode we've got the Oscars coming up, and we've never really done like a Oscars preview because a lot of people can't see all the movies. Like, I won't have. I will not have been able to see all the moves by the time Oscars comes on. But we wanted to have kind of a conversation is in that area in that arena. So we thought this would be really fun to do kind of a rewind because Oscars are Sunday night. This is one of I don't know about us one of my favorite nights because it celebrates one of everything's movies, but this specific rendition or the specific edition of Oscars, it's a little complicated because we don't have a host. And if you had to qualify, the pedigree of the class of movies in this award show iterating would it sound along a fart noise or like. Well, to me, the eight movies that are nominated for best picture, which I will say that I will have seen all the movies, minus Cold War who the directors nominated, but it's important issue. And I don't even want to see that anyway, and it's on the dark web, and I'm going to have to like get on a torrent in order to even see it. But I here's the thing. I think I loved all the eight movies minus maybe to them so six of them. I thought were really worthy of best picture nominees. Okay. Once one year red lights coming up one is on my red light and told me at board. You so hard that you cried yourself to sleep other than that. They're they're good movies. Read my movies. You got you got enjoyable, but I love the Oscars because you get the red carpet, you get kind of the unexpected of like, hopefully, maybe they'll be some surprises and people will win that you don't think in the speeches and all the fun things. So to me, there's a lot of hope that comes with the Oscars. Let me can I ask you this one of the many controversies right now. They they're showing they've been showing the dedicated time to show kind of the not sexy awards in the commercial break. And a lot of people like that's messed up you guys. Like, I need to know who won best assistant Mataka for like I wanna frequency that. When mad Seth Rogan has gotten about. Like, why are you not showing the cinematographer? What it which to be fair cinematographers do important work stream important, and I just don't understand why we can't just cut somewhere else. Like, I just don't know that I need all the best to be sung. Although I am excited about lady Gaga and Bradley Cooper singing. I don't know like even like, Emily blunt. It's not even singing the song for Mary Poppins. She's ominous Bette midler singing. So why can't we cut some of that stuff? And just stick to like, let's just gotta words. Why do I gotta have a montage of all the times that Cowboys have been in the cinema. You know, we're going to get something dumb like that. I will say about the awards this year. So if you're if you're prepping, and by the way, good art, Instagram, we are posting in stories all week of how you can watch the movies that are available and where to go and that will be. Stored in our highlights if you missed it. But Black Panther is the first superhero movie of all time to be nominated for best picture, and by the way, it's gross seven hundred million dollar plus box office is more than the earnings of the other seven best picture nominees combined. Oh my gosh. I know which is great. And then Netflix has their first film nominated for best picture Roma which was fine. It's fine. I made it five minutes. And I was like, it's not you. It's me right now. I'll come back to you. Just can't is it as boring as it looks so much. Everything I just can't it is the temp foreign language film to be nominated in the best picture category. And I think we should maybe stop there take no more foreign language films. Look I'll I don't want to sound like ignorant Americans. I wanna watch it. It's just I'm very busy. I got a lot going on. I got stuff going on. I also Glenn Close is the most nominated living actor never to win an Oscar. She is up for her seventh nomination for the wife, and it is sh she is on track. It seems like to possibly win and beat out alleviate Coleman and late Cup prefer K McKenna's. Glenn Close to Glenn Close's. Real Glenn Close. One hundred percent. Let me to eat three quick questions about the Oscars. How much do you think? This year's Oscars will cost to make the production of the show. That's right. I'm really bad at this. Thirty million dollars forty four million dollars, very impressive and the LA annual economic boost is one hundred and thirty million. So they make that money back. They can they can apply that to the four. Oh five or if they take the one ten they can go down to the four. Oh, five that's right by water on the. Yeah. How much do you think of the most famous after party after the Oscars is Vanity Fair after Marty how much do you think it costs for one couple to attend to buy two tickets to go to this after party a hundred thousand one hundred and three thousand? I don't even care. I'm just impressed with my final thing. Everybody who presents at the Oscars, and everyone who is a nominee gets a goody bag would you like to guess how much that goodie bag is worth because this is similar to the kind of swag bags that we provide at our live shows, very similar, very similar. I'm going to say twenty five thousand dollars. I'm sorry. It's one hundred and fifty thousand dollars a bag is worth more than a ticket series forty thousand dollar trip to Hedy and every bag that doesn't count because it's like you have to include it in like it needs to be a drone. It can't be like here's a ticket to go to Mars and live. Like lady Gaga was just walk out holding a drone. I fill misled. I felt very misled. Okay. So what we're going to do here is I think the really interesting interesting thing about living in Pucklechurch right now is something happens. And then like two weeks later, it feels like that thing happened ten years ago. So I think we lose a lot of perspective and a lot of context that informs future things current things we're doing right now. So well, we want to do is go five years ten years twenty years ago, revisit those Oscars and kind of give them the context of a new lens because something happens like, I'll never forget. I don't remember which Oscars the artist one, but I remember watching them like in thirty days. We're gonna think this stupid. That dog is not impressive. It's not impressive at all. And I love dogs, but it's very underwhelming dog. So we're gonna start do five years ago in kind of give it a give it a good look and a wash over see if we think it could be improved or see if there are any snubs, we're gonna talk about on any unintended consequences from that Oscar's just as a refresher the two thousand fourteen Oscars Ellen Degeneres, Ellen Degeneres was the host. If you remember she took the most retweeted selfie of all time with many people who no longer like each other pleading Brad and Angelina she had pizza delivered to the pavilion theatre. No to the Kodak Theatre to the Kodak Theatre my favorite line that she gave in her hosting was I did a little bit of research in between all the nominees here. Tonight, you've made over fourteen hundred films, and you've gone to a total of six years of college. Wow. They right and my favorite memory from that Oscars. Is that as John Travolta when introducing a demons L called her Adela design, not even close. It was so far away. What a great authors. That's a good. It was actually Oscar so okay. So let's I think the big takeaway is always best picture. And that's kind of lends will look at some things. We'll go to other categories but quickly let me just recap. What was nominated for best picture? Okay. You've got the wolf of Wall Street. You've got Filomeno Nebraska her gravity. Dallas buyers club captain Phillips, an American hustle, and in twelve years, a slave now, obviously who won best picture that twelve years a slave when best picture you feel like the right movie one that one. Oh my gosh. I was looking back because I love twelve you're twelve years a slave. And I was looking back and listen when you look at this cast list, and then you go this was made by Steve McQueen. It was produced by plan b films, which even now we now see even more how creative and smart they are. But like this this cast list included Michael bender Benedict. Cumberbatch Paul g. Amati lupita neon. Go Sarah Paulson Brad, Pitt alfre Woodard to tell for like people who we now like love to see these. And for a couple of them. It was their first break out experience. I listen is it a dark film for sure. Sure. Right. I mean bigger it's a who's the cast. It's a who's who don't I will quibble with your terminology of like this. I love watching this film does invite love watching this film. It's not I mean, it's very difficult film to watch. But I like that it I appreciate that. It was difficult. I think you're you'll have movies about slavery, and they will be like there's a hard scene and then everything's gray. Everybody gets along and white people. Learn their lesson right? And then what you realize is like, no, we need a film that like Michael bender. Ooh. He's so he's so bad. Good in it. You know, but I think our friendship and Morton I saw her on Twitter. She talked about an exchange with someone in the personal Saima how she doesn't like some of the things. Talks about because they're difficult and she ends like that's kind of the height of privilege. Like yet talk about thinking about difficult things. That's why twelve years a slave is so great. It's tough watch is a great wash. I don't think because to me it's foreign away the best movie of that year. If you had to pick a s- like a close second. What would you would you land on? I really love the wolf of Wall Street you love the I really do it's complicated entirely. Too many orifices. There are a lot of orifices. But in between the orifices is a good film. I personally love gravity. I saw extremely high. So I can't have any had the most nations. Yeah. And it was shocking that it went so few like it really did win. So few sure took director of but it did not win best picture. So we agree on that. Let's talk about notable snubs in other categories. Or if you want to broaden this out just non snubs like this person shouldn't have won. But it's held up. Really, well, or it's gotten better as aged. So for me like this movie, I don't think this move should nominated all that. You could've talked me into it World War Z fill like a holdup. Really? Well, good film. Really well on the rewatch. I personally was surprised truly. I like frozen should have probably been nominated for best film love frozen. I wish this was a video podcast because people could see the Solis look in your eyes. And he said that I I'm never forget it. Seven I'm admitting that because like frozen is such a complicated thing. But I like it was really great film, and it did something different than any animated films that had gone before it had done. So it would. I mean, like if you're going frozen or Nebraska go like that seems silly not to include frozen, and it seems silly. And I'll come back to Nebraska in a second. But I kind of wish the the academy would do, you know, what the funny thing is I've come full circle when they started. I don't remember what they announced they wanted to do like best mainstream film or know, you remember what I'm talking about film people like, yeah. Like the way they did it was wrong. But it almost it seems like they need space for like a phenomenon like frozen wouldn't classically qualify for anything. You can't if the purpose of the Oscars is to commemorate the year in movies, and you don't talk about frozen. Like, are you really doing that you really captured? Now, you're not that's it's almost like we needed an award. That's like what made movies. What made people willing to leave their house, right? Like, the put on your pants movie. That's neat. Need for every year? That's good branding, right? There. Your professional. Can I throw this at you to just off like off the top of your head? I've always been passionate about it makes me mad at comedies aren't recognized the Oscars sheriff, there's no best comedy there's drama, but new comedy. So I'm going to give you three. We'll no there's not it's not best drama. No. But dramas are always way more than comedies are. So I'm gonna give you a best comedy category. And I'll give you some nominees and you'll get to be the arbiter. I this is the end with Seth Rogan all those guys right now. You see me? I firmly believe there's a comedy that's asking us to Jesse Eisenberg's a cool kid, which is insanely hilarious is very Dr. It's sad. But here it is the heat. Oh, the he this is a he writes this weekend that he all the time because I love it so much he's crushes then we don't have a heat too. But don't we have a heat to know, it seems? Dumb. What are they doing can do it? She can do. They can do it. Okay. Let's talk about unintended consequences of these here. Oscars, jamie. What happened? What can we derive and traced back to this? Exact there's one clear thing. So Matthew mcconnahey wins best actor for Dallas buyers club, and in that acceptance speech, he says he starts off by like a quick like I want to thank all the economy and Makassar emit crew. Now, there's a few things about three things to my count that I need each day. One of them something to look up to another something to look forward to and another someone to chase. And he's been four minutes breaking down three points. Arman, all you need to link. We'll put it in the show notes. How point he gets glasses? There's a laser pointer, and I don't know who it was. But there was a Lincoln executive watching this author's going that is what we need. My god. We need him to sell our navigators in that speech saying I need to hear. And I figured out who it is. It's me and ten years me. Years. It's me I'm my own hero. Here's the thing about that. Like these especially if someone like Matthew, mcconaughey? This is not the first time that they're up and they're like maybe out win. I don't know. He's won sixteen times for this movie already. He's done all the speech ios. He's going to win. So he saved his A-List material for this moment. And that's what we got which is beautiful such a great thing. For me. The biggest unintended consequence of these Oscars. Is that we got the old people movie renaissance. That's right. They saw Bruce during their like, we got the Kaminsky mess that the Kamensky method was in development at this moment Kaminsky method. Don't forget Jamie book club that movie were four ladies reach shades of gray and all sex hell breaks loose. Good. God. I don't know. Why? I don't like it makes sense we get the mule with Clint Eastwood having inexplicable threesomes. What is it that? Why is it that senior adults are either having sex or moving drugs? I don't I mean, you can talk to my parents about what they're doing on choose to do you want to watch the movie about what? Citizens really do complain about their arthritis in watch their programs. No, you wanna watch them have sex and drugs. I'm just saying that straight. I wasn't ready for that. We also got Jared Leto is like a big big deal capital actor cause remember what's he get after this after he gets the joke ner gets the joker. 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The show super fun house about Hugh Jackman. And look he the show itself was produced by Bill Condon who loves them use ical. And so he had Hugh Jackman at some point in the show is a musical revue to musical movies performed by Hugh Jackman, Amanda, ciphered and beyond say. Hugh Jackman have Hugh Jackman Gazza like in this moment that he did who actually like at some point like works the front row of the crowd and pulls Anne Hathaway into do it which is the worst Shaw that is the worst party to go to try to return policy on that. I don't like it. It. Also, what's interesting about this Oscars is this is ten years ago. And it is the height of branch Alina powers. Both Brad Pitt. Angelina Jolie were nominated for best actor and best actress. And so they are looking good on the red carpet. They're in love. They don't know that they're going to hate each other. Eventually, it's a magical, Tom we were younger than it was simply did this did that hosting gig. Did I get him Lee, MS or like was lame as always happening? No matter what oh he was always that was in his like hope journal that he wrote on every day want to be in life miss day. Three. I want to be in. He that was his dream of dates still want to be is. Okay. So let's talk about best pictures. Now. This is before the field got expanded. So we only have five best picture nominees. Right. That's the reader who snore sound later milk frost, Nixon the curious case of Benjamin button and Slumdog millionaire obviously something millionaire one. Yeah. Did you like that? I actually liked Slumdog millionaire. Although I did really love the curious case of Benjamin button. Like, I genuinely loved that so much, and but like Slumdog millionaire got ten nominations. It went eight of it's a words, which is very rare that somebody would win that many. And I think it's because this list of five I mean milk milk milk is like can I don't think you say anything bad about milk is didn't like it. No. It just wasn't like. Wow changed. My let like the reader, which is which was such a shock at the time. Because everybody thought that revolutionary road would be nominated for best picture, and it was like, no none for Leo. We're using we do like K though. So we're going to give us the reader instead of revolutionary red. Do what is the reader about? Do you know what the reader is about it's about? Okay. So like when you're in the first grade learn how to read write that. No. Kate Kate Winslet. And she's like, here's how you read mate. Well, here's the thing. She teaches somebody how to read and then she does bathe naked with them. Does. She really well there is a naked bathing. You don't even know that she bathe naked, but you're assuming and you're probably right. There is no actress in Hollywood who I have seen their areolas more than Kate Winslet. It's you're not wrongly top. That's on you. Because you saw Titanic billion times. Here's my problem with sundial millionaire the whole dance thing at the end. You don't like I hated it. I don't like dance scenes ever. I don't I'm not a pro dance kind of guy. Almost punched moment. It wasn't. It wasn't was actually wasn't. It was not of this list, including actress superlatives was there. Anyone who should have one? That did not win. Listen the clear category is best supporting actress because I'm still angry about tragedy. P Hinson not winning for Benjamin button and that stupid faced Penelope Cruz winning for inexplicably titled Vicky. Casino barcelona. I love the title a low Penelope Cruz. That's actually an unintended consequence that we got from the stupid Oscars is that suddenly people were like is Penelope Cruz. Good. Let's keep putting her and stuff, and guess what? She's not. She's just married, Javier. Bardem who is good? She's not good. You can be good to look at. But not good at your profession. And that's totally like, here's the problem. Salma Hayek is a better actress than Penelope Cruz to any both know they're absolutely duplicates. Like, do you want the busty model more? Here's that version. You can she's better talker. So I've listened I've real issues penalty crews not being able to do any accents whatsoever and doesn't care and just says, well, this is who I am this goes back to my theory, if you're attractive enough, you don't have to do anything. You don't have to have a robust profile or talented. Exactly. Right. You just your your talent is your attractiveness. You could talk me into a world. This is crazy. And I'm going to say, Jamie. I'm just gonna freak and say it you could talk them into the world where Angelina Jolie wins for changeling. I love changeling a hat changeling is a good movie though, that's a dork movie. You hate it. Because it starts. But no, she's. And she is so good in that role. Maybe we should have seen was the dark Knight in that best picture race. Because I thought the dark Knight yet didn't even get nominated. They didn't even get nominated. It was the number one grossing film of the year. It's so good. It's one of those movies that you just go. It's a put on your pants film. And it's so good, and he'd ledger one for it, which let's be honest. I think he was great. But like, we know he won't say what I think you're but he won because he was dead who's going to beat him. That's the thing. I thought the same thing, Jamie. And then I educated myself, and I looked at mommy's house like all Michael, Shannon and revolutionary Philip Seymour Hoffman in doubt winds, or let's be honest, Robert Downey junior in tropic thunder was so good. Can we get to Robert Downey junior and tropic thunder because holy cow thought. It'd be we could make now what a nesting doll of like is this. Okay, fine. It's a very weird very weird moment. So 'cause I had I had I thought Mckee I thought the Russell was good. Mickey Rourke could have won. I thought I haven't seen anything in a long time like the first fifteen minutes of dark Knight to whole extended. I haven't seen anything in a movie like that before. Oh, yeah. So I think that's that's pretty interesting that ends up giving us really in many ways. Christopher Nolan gets a whole career. Yeah. And I think I'll skip ahead. And that's one of mine Senate consequences. I think the dark Knight legitimizes superhero trilogy and a new era because by this point ironman, original has already started. That's why I want to talk about Robert Downey junior for a second going back to tropic thunder because he's kind of reimbursed on his career, he's ironman. They've taken risk on him. He's done it. And then his move because he's he's had drug abuse issues. He's ironman the take shot. It's great and his move is to then play Kirk Lazarus was also playing a sergeant an African American sergeant right grade your approval over this choice in the moment. I think it's it's. Who else could have done this? Nobody nobody. And I really love that movie. Because of I like any movie that makes fun of Hollywood. And it got like does it. Well, and not many movies. Do you like there's just so few movies that self reflect it'd be like we're stupid shrike? This is stupid. But I felt like I was watching with tropic thunder. It was real life. Like, these are things that happen on real sets Dany McBride. I wanted more Danny McBride. I was like daddy. Make broadest great we'd be more of him. It just in. The course the Tom Cruise roll all of it was just the Tom Cruise man that was my least favorite part. I think that was another because you're right. Like, nobody loves moves about themselves more than Hollywood. Yeah. And the shortest or the easiest way to get nominated to do that. And that Tom Cruise like we forget we forget. There was a moment where Tom Cruise was a bona fide weirdo. Like there was post. Oh br. Post. Katie Holmes, jump on the couch his approval rating was zero and this was his way to get back because this him doing less gross. When doing this disgusting parody of a movie executive, which now in retrospect was probably Harvey Weinstein. I think we one hundred percent heart. So everyone knew that. But then once talking about it that got him back into the public, which is an insane thing to think about right now. I do this Oskar gets violates gets her first Oscar nomination, and I think it's everybody went viola Davis who's that. She's good. Look, y'all people color. This is fascinating. It was like a year. It was the most diverse year for nominations for the Oscars. Like, it was this weird. Our don't don't worry. It didn't stay this way because the Oscars got white role quick ago still five y dudes for best actor, it's still no women directors. That's fine. No worries that, but it was like oh movies that are not just like movies could have like Slumdog millionaire. What I loved about that movie is that was not. Just a meaty that had diversity for this. It was like, no, no, this is this is about a whole other group of people are like way, that's weird. And it was very good. And that's what I kind of love. And that's why I love that. It wants somebody off. It's funny. Like the only way that gets made and nominated in ward, it is because it's such a not derivative in a pejorative sense of who wants to bilionaire. Yeah. Like this is just a game show in India. We'd all be like, nah. No. Thank you. But because we're like, oh, that's Regis. That's Indian Regis. Okay. Got go ahead. Like only it's it's a moment in time as he say. Can I tell you also about this Oscars we had couples debut and the fosters which I feel like you've forgotten about the fact that Jennifer Aniston and is coming to this Oscars to present, by the way. So it's a big deal because brains Selena or they're both nominated. She brings us her date. John Mayer is is this pre sexual napalm or post post like I wanna move what a new girl. Jennifer, Aniston me light over y'all together and nominated for Oscars. This is my younger boyfriend whose role hot and then one couple that took to you the red carpet for the first time was Reese Witherspoon and Jake Chilin hall, like gross them. So glad they're not together. Let me do this. I've got notable snub this might be spicy. But Wally become FU panda and I used to bang before. For Wally Wally, it's still fine. It's so fine. You are not placing kung FU panda Wally must sing. But I'm I'm saying you are saying no mostly in that. I'm saying I think about think about. About it because kung FU panda so Polly should have been nominated for best film. That's how good that film is slowly drags Wally drags that. I twenty five minutes is gold. But then it it's about like fat people not want to walk. I doubt. There wasn't interesting stuff in this Oscars. Which was Bruce Springsteen who won the Golden Globe for best song. Didn't even get an Oscar nomination for the wrestler. And so I love that. They're like, no, yeah. Look we like songs from Slumdog because they dance this the wrestlers sweaty movie. And I don't blame them for not wanting to do that. Enjoy Mickey or work is one of the he's a bad guy in iron, man. He's very red and sweaty he's tough. How do you feel about how you said his name just person to person Keough work with? I think it's just a Mickey Rourke look at night verify stats department can't confirm you made him doubly Irish when he's just singularly Irish should add the, oh, I don't think it wouldn't make him more interesting to me give him. So he wasn't Irish enough. You're like, I don't know. I need to know not really still it. Okay. That's fair. I think let me throw the comedy remember best comedy. Remember that thing? I was talking about. Let's see that. Okay. Best comedy of whatever, your this is you've got nominee stepbrothers, okay. Forgetting Sarah Marshall tropic thunder the happening. That's a comedy. You know, it is. And then get smart leave left out twilight. Wow. Wow. I just wanted there to be some competition. I feel like that's such a juggernaut tropic thunder that media. So funny. I think I would go forgetting Sarah Marshall, you have the weirdest thing for that. I do I don't know why. Got Jason Segel's pain. And I love that you though, get smart. It's a good movie. No, it is not. No. That is not a good. You don't even feel about that? You got you know, who you just said frozen should be best picture nominee. Don't think. I forgot that equate frozen. How do you quite frozen with get smart? Get smart has a really bad the rock in. It is the rock ever, not bad. Let me do another unintended consequence. I think Dow I think launched the side I religious movie like we finally formalized that and you it's weird the same movie came out that year, you know, else came out that year proof by so as we are. I think culturally like religious part, let's make movies about that. And we went to different directions. Also this year marked the official end of the Raisa Shiloh buff because he was in Indiana Jones and the aliens head in the fridge. That was about one. And then also this was the verifiable end of Will Smith because he had handcock and seven pounds that year. Bever about. Okay. Let's get to twenty years in the past. Let's talk about those move. Okay. So the nineteen ninety nine Oscars hosted by Whoopee Goldberg who would be like go onto host it four times total. That's the year. We got selene Dion in a backward. White Christian Dior tuxedo with a matching white fedora on the red carpet. This is the Oscars where here are three of the live performances. You ready you get selene Dion with Andrea Bocelli singing the prayer. You get Aerosmith performing. I don't wanna miss a thing. And you get Mariah Carey. And with the Houston performing win, you believe. Oh my God. I know. And then what's sad? Is you got like some folk like Allison more performing. And it's like, I'm sorry girl. This is not your year. And this year will get Bradley Cooper. But this whippy Goldberg this was maybe her best Oscars hosting gig. She came out from the beginning of the show. She she she goes onto stage dressed in full Whiteface as Queen Elizabeth. Wow. It was a special moment. Wow. Okay. Okay. So the best picture nominees. This year were the thin red line, which is I can verify the most boring movie ever made good. That's not hyperbolic. That's just fact saving private Ryan life is beautiful Elizabeth and finally Shakespeare in love now, I think a piece came out last year. This is kind of something darker storyline that a lot of people know about that, isn't that wide widely out there. Shakespeare in love. Wasn't. I mean, obviously you look at this. And you're like what would that be saving? Private Ryan is because of an intense marketing campaign done by Harvey Weinstein to ensure the Shakespeare in love with win on his kind of legendary and it launched a whole movement in Oskar lobbying. Now, did you see Shakespeare in love, I did I actually really like Shakespeare and Latin right? It's gets fight is a good move. But it's not saving private Ryan, which if it had been any other year, you could probably finesse that point but to go up against saving private Ryan, y'all be like nut as soon as better this. They're laying around day beds in like close shows Harvey Weinstein's power because he had just done this two years earlier with The English Patient where it had won best picture, and he spent so much money lobbying and already you know, that they're like they send all the studios. So now screeners to everyone in the guild so that they can see their film. So that when they vote it won't be like you didn't have to go. You don't have to put on pants you just wash this on your DVD player. Right. But the thing about. This movie was it's like it was the perfect storm of you had this Aaj new you had these rising stars that Rupert Everett. You had been athlete who had won an Oscar the year before. So we had these it was like it was like the perfect kind of hitch in in saving private Ryan get along that it was like he could spend so much money so much money that DreamWorks in the last two weeks before voting commit or voting ended that DreamWorks spent forty million dollars trying to catch up with what Harvey Weinstein was doing. It's insane. You wouldn't saw that. There was misinformation they put it out. Also, improv Ryan really is fifteen minutes which that kind of stood to this day because that's all I really think about men I fifteen minutes. Great. What's good movie beyond the first fifteen minutes, greatly V beyond the for? I mean, it really is a phenomenal movie. And it's like the voter said, okay. Because here's the thing. It's not even that Shakespeare in love did so much better at the Oscars. It got thirteen nominations. It won seven of them, which is unheard of. But it was like and Steven Spielberg had had been nominated before for director. But had never won. They did give him that. Like, they did say, well, we'll let you have this one just because I don't even know who directed Shakespeare and right John Madden. Because I went to look what he's done since. And it's not nothing. But it's a lot of like best marigold exotic whatever until captain career really's mandolin. Yes movies. I would never see in a million years right to so it's safe to save saving private Ryan should have won. I mean, like Z said English Patient two years prior good will hunting didn't win the year before a lot of adjacent wins. This is I think it's fair to say, this is Harvey worrying to see net is absolute apex predator pun intended in Hollywood business. It's considered one of the most controversial Oscars because of saving private Ryan, not winning particularly because saving private Ryan was one of those movies. That is. Like just an enigma in Hollywood. Which is it's beloved by critics, and it was beloved by the audience. It was the number one grossing film of that year, and that's competing with Armageddon, which people love them, some Armageddon about Ben Affleck this year, he's in the two highest grossing or he's in Armageddon, and he's competing with Matt Damon Matt Damon's in saving private Ryan only sort of and he's only sort of in Shakespeare in love Ben Affleck. And I just think these two guys, and and the fact that the Paltrow broke up with Ben Affleck just a mere week before the Oscars and she put on that pink dress that bubble gum dress. And then cried and acted like a crazy person when she won best actress, I mean, I think is a fair to say that one of the unintended consequences, these Oscars is we get goop because I don't think. Oh, yeah. Gwyneth paltrow? I mean, you can make the case that kind of shaped your definitely shaped recruiting a positive way in probably gave for opportunities. She wouldn't have gotten. You can make the. Case that if it hadn't won she would have had a more. I don't know fitting trajectory light not as fraught with like, you're in an Oscar winning movie. But I do think when you look at what what's come after. It's not been that close. She's definitely always listened. When when they talk about the best actress curse, it's always Gwyneth Paltrow. And it is always Halle Berry. It's like those two women are always mentioned because when you think about her IMDB, she goes from Shakespeare lab to sheet already filmed the talented, Mr. Ripley, but then she goes to duets she goes to bounce. She goes to shallow how she goes to Austin powers in Goldmember. She goes to view from the top that movie is so bad because it's Christina Applegate. And her trying to be flight attendant, it's horrible and she never really recovers from at remember country strong. See that's on brand though. Like, I feel like that's okay. I didn't do. Well, but interesting so she famously won that Oscar, and it was a surprise because everyone thought that Kate Blanchett who it was her first Domino's person for an Oscar they thought she would win. And so I think what happens is Cape Lynch at what you said should have happened to Paltrow like you don't win. And then you probably get to be in better movies that actually happens to Kate Blanchett. So Kate Blanchett goes on her career diverges and a wood and she ends up with seven more Oscar nominations in her career, and she wins to Oscar talk about two women who start in the same place. They both start with these I Oscar nominations, and then how different their lives have turned out. This is also the Oscars where for about the next ten years of calling refines and Joseph socal on them, Josephine ace and Ralph Fiennes felt really good about it. Which is weird because their names would have been pronounced all the time on the television. And you would have heard it said, right? All the time. It's the same thing when I heard Vaughn Iver. Can we don't even their play who's this bone of air? I know Bon Iver. He's real good. Here is the notable side this year. It is Jim Carey who was not nominated for treatment show, despite the fact that his co-star at Harris was nominated. He had won the Golden Globe. And he wasn't even nominated for an Oscar kind of question. Yeah. Show even a good moving. Is it a good movie? It is an excellent. Is it a good movie? It's a great movie. It's so different and unique. And listen, do you know, much how much I cry? I don't even realize 'til now looking back at these movies going what I would give for creative unique different. I mean, look at this list. These are saving private Ryan based on a book. That's just a really smart creative movie. Shakespeare in love is just a unique take on something. We're familiar with. That's why I love the Truman show. It's like, we get reality TV and it tapped into that. But it did it in a more thoughtful heavier denser way, like when he realizes that his best friend is not what's the subdues name Noah, Noah something. No Emmerick desktop at the top scene. That's a really interesting point though. Because I think you get a glimpse of Hollywood could do inundated with superhero stuff yak. You get these ideas. Yeah. It's really interesting. I wonder I'm wondering this is the Truman show a better idea or better movie. And I think it's. A better idea. Like a Morriston the idea they execute it. Well, but you're right. I look at the top ten movies that year it none of it's Armageddon. It's there's something about Mary a bug's life, the waterboy Dr Doolittle God that was a tough year tough year. But none of it is like the only sequel you get is lethal weapon four ghoul. And it's it makes a hundred thirty million dollars. You've got you've got mail the prince of Egypt. You've got interest move on. Those are all interesting creative films, and we just don't have that anymore. Could I interest you in a case for Edward Norton winning the Oscar for best actor for American history. X you know, I don't think I've ever seen American history. I haven't I'm not an Edward Norton fan at all I'm not either. But he gets ripped gets a giant swastika tattoo and suddenly can ball like he's absolutely dishing on the court. He dunks. He spoiler alert. I'm starting to do. So you he curves thomps literally curse on someone's head. It's a tough movie. But he's really good. You know, it's interesting. He. Took as his date to the Oscars that year because he was he was beloved like he was at the height of his team powers. And he takes drew Barrymore. That's a good move who on the red carpet kisses on the mouth live Tyler. I don't know. I hate it. I know right moves. I don't have love a jury in making it work. And we're not even talking about how this was the year. We had deep impact and Armageddon. The. Same thing. One has a romantic storyline. And one does not once crust ear, I guess. Let me can I give you the comedy category. Oh, yes. Okay. First nominee, the wedding singer second nominee, the faculty. It is a comedy last one. There's something about Mary. Oh, it's there's something about me. I think so too. I think there was a real buzz, and I've read this there's a real buzz for there's something about Mary to be included in the best picture nominee group. It's you know, it's where it's where Cameron Diaz should stage. Should not have tried to be in the gangs of New York. She shouldn't have tried to ever be in anything serious. She should have just been in doofus comedy. And I think breath Barsha stay there. Two stops. In people pictures of of his dude pickets, you know, one of the kind of love that. I don't love do picket Shuba like force concern at you do do to get you get you sound like do could you talk to me in the Duca chew. I'll allow it. Okay. 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Now to find your perfect fitting bra and get fifteen percent off your first purchase. That's third. Love dot com slash P. O P for fifteen percent off today. Okay. Back to the show. Our jamie. You do some let's use a lights. What is your red light this week? Okay. So my red light this week is the favorite and by that. I mean, the movie the favourite and part of it. It's not the movie is a red light. It's me as a red light. It's people who DM me about the favorite their red light. Here's the deal. It took a long time for me to see the favorite because I just never could get to the theater, and then listeners started deeming us and telling us that it was either the worst movie they'd ever seen or it was the best movie they'd ever seen. And I suddenly felt this pressure to like make it be the best or the worst movie I've ever seen. So make thing that's been finished into the best. Or worst thing. It's ever been. That's where I get it. No. I'm just wanted to make sure I'm right? So here's what happened. I go to see the favorite y'all the favorite is nominated for ten Oscar nominations, by the way, and it's probably going to win a few. And here's the thing. It's okay. Do I need a fish wins for a movie to create? Tive guys fish islands. Is that my niece uses those on Snapchat? It does not make her a great filmmaker. Okay. Also, the first thirty minutes is fantastic. And then it slows down, and it may be all of the sexual like, look, I didn't have any problem with the sexual content because it felt preate because they're trying to tell that story. And it's like did I need to see Emma. Stone's booby. No, it felt very gratuitous. And I'm gonna be honest. She does not have a great booby question. Was that singular booby? She's just one. There's just one baby gossiping that just choice. It's. Yeah. Fish islands. I get Sean liens and when baby I didn't like it. Did I level the Coleman? Yes. She makes decisions that are so smart and so unique and so different that she if she wins. I will not be mad about it. Emma stone, so great Rachel vice boring. Didn't do anything different July's. Look you've got dragged by horse. That's not fun. But we're Jamie come on. But that also is not like. It's not interesting or creative. And so to me this movie is overrated. But I'm also saying that everyone deeming me to tell me that it's the best or where some of her. That's also overrated. Okay. So I had a bad weekend. We're had to watch Roma, and I had to watch the favorite kind of brought me down. My green light will recover. Don't. We'll get there. My red light is this individual who I did not know was in human existence until a little bit ago. And I'm red lighting him for making me know this in the world for propelling this person to existence. Do you know who little Zan is no little Zan? Okay. Imagine if you will, Jamie. A younger version of Davidson if he was like more ambitious. Okay. That's little Zan. Do you know what Zan is short for Jamie, Zander, zanex little Xanax? Okay. This is a this is a gas station drugs. It's not a gas station drug this kid. I saw him because he was dating Noah Cyrus daughter sister of Miley. You see where I'm at here wound bread lighting, just where I'm I'm wise and pop culture. And so I had to learn about him just because I'm interested in this whole idea. So he's dating Noah Cyrus, they broke up in September because Noah jokingly sent a picture of Charlie poof. Okay. Another person. I just don't care to know. And it was a photoshopped picture of his head on a naked porn stars body which made little Zan break up with her and publicly accuser being unfaithful also on September September twenty teen. Little Zan was treated for stomach pain after eating too many flaming hot Cheetos little van a. Needs Zantac calm down about. No. That's why doesn't he got addicted to Xanax? That's why he is a little Bullock. Why would you name your soul thing you're addicted to like like, I don't call myself a little cheese it, I don't call myself blue French from even though maybe we should maybe we're doing wrong cheese it for. A truck. I wish agreement this week. Okay. So I have two green lights my baby green lights are because I'm watching so many Oscar films in the last week. I did want to do a hat tip to everyone should watch free solo free solo which I thought was about Han solo. It was not it was about solo climbing rocks, which again is never interesting to me. When I go go buy it at the wa people who are climbing rocks seems very boring to me this movie was so riveting and so creative and smart. And it's basically just about a guy that they're filming his solo com of L copy Thanh, and it is like I was like dizzy da does he live? What happens? I was. I was intrigued the other is black klansman. I only watched black klansman with Adam driver, John David John David joined in Washington. Thank you on our Coa black Cukurca clansmen. So Clemson gifts. What Jamie did not know? This was based on a true story until the credits rolled and it said based on the book by the characters name, and I was like, oh, okay. Well, this is even better. Then it was it was based on a true story. It's so good. It is uncomfortable. It is it's very uncomfortable. But listen, I think we need to watch uncomfortable things in order. It's like our discussion about twelve years of slave. I think we have to watch things like this that we better understand history. Where we've come from. How do we not repeat these behaviors? And how do we understand some of the fears that we see currently how do we understand them? As like, this is not the long ago past this is the current pass too. I liked both of those homes a lot. Then my green light book this week is I think you're wrong. But I'm listening by Sarah, Stewart, Holland and Beth silvers now Beth and Sarah or the host of the podcast PNC politics, which I've always loved because one of them is on the right and one of the Muslim left. And so I like when they discuss because they do it very civilly. They always have conversations about political issues, which I really love I like to see myself, I like to see myself on the spectrum of politics, but sometimes it can be really hard to discuss politics, and I like this book because. They really talk you through. How can you have conversations with people you are in a family with or you go to church with where you're in a small group with and how can you have conversations with them about politics without wanting to punch somebody in the face. And I had I did not know how to do that. Until I read this book, and it just is really lovely. And it's not even just about how to talk to other people. But how to bring yourself to this conversations in a smart way? And look we're in the middle of season of politics being very hard. I think about the people that I have I left Facebook because politics because I was realizing when I would see those people out like at Paneira I'd be so mad at what a garbage person. I thought they were. But before I always loved them. And so I didn't like how was feeling about people. This will help give you a new perspective on having these conversations and having them be grace filled such a good. But what a crazy thing like doing. God's work of helping people have those conversations because it's like big deal. I know there's nothing about that. That's. Ministerial? But I think it very much is of like, here's how to be more humane to each other. That sounds crazy. But it's so necessary, and so helpful I can't wait to read that my green light is the so I don't I mean, which I don't really watch documentaries that much right? I watched fire fest and this documentary is this what documentaries alike because it's a fantastic. I won't get back on that train Jamie abducted in plain sight is a dunkers have you seen this document? Okay. So look, here's the thing. It's about it's about this family called the bergs. This is a real family real family based on true story. They they are naive. They are going. They are from Idaho. And they fall under the spell of their psychopath. Neighbor who is like real fixated on their twelve year old daughter, Jean okay? Okay. That doesn't feel great. And I don't like I'm like, it's it's weird. Like promoting a documentary weird stuff happens. But like the best I commend. Okay. So like if I'm in that clear like this is such a book wild documentary because I think like if you are if your parents and you ever feel like a bad parent. I would urge you to queue this thing up because these are cartoonish Lee horrific, parents, they are the absolute worst. The elevator pitch of the idea. That's going on is that this guy Burch told their neighbor that's his name. They call them Bieber sold. He's fixated on their daughter and their inability to even like competently approach being good. Parents it allows her daughter Jan to be kidnapped comma, not once but twice Jamie in plain sight in plain sight, aliens, earn -volved. Look, I I like to think of things I watch like usage rates like what is the usage rate of me saying, holy shirt balls. Okay. I found myself saying this every three minutes, I was ten minutes. And I was ten minutes in and I did it Instagram story as it. This is the craziest thing I've ever watched. I was ten minutes in Jamie. This is not good. I think this is a show it kind of talks about the the danger of when you lead reputation and religion take precedence over relationships. And especially the ones they have with your kids. This family was LDS. So I've seen a lot of people like throwing shade. It Elliott this isn't about L D S like Christian families do weird stuff too. And like they're naive in belligerent to families, but you will not watch wilder documentary this year, I see it. And if I'm wrong wear patch. That's my Val. This crazy. Okay. All right. That's going to do it for this episode of the podcast. And before we go guys from time you do in shopping Amazon dot com slash shops slash pop. Guess I say per link figura purchased using net linked this week was Jamie. This is just called curly girl. The handbook and I'm mad because I thought this was curly fries. The handbook, and this is a very different than what happened. This is this is a bible for people with curly and wavy hair. People really love this. I will say I did look at the reviews did get a one star from a woman who said this was a very boring much too long book about curly and wavy hair. Would you think is going to be about listen? She also did give one star to diva curl, which is the product line made by the author of this book, she said, and so I'm starting to think this woman probably went to this high school with the author. And like, this is a vendetta. Okay. All right. You guys, Jamie. Golden you can find me on Facebook, Twitter and Instagram at Jamie, golden, I'm mostly go. You can find it on social at Knoxville coy or you can buy my book. The wondering years wherever books are sold. Thanks for listen guys.

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Sin City (Film) - GMMF

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Sin City (Film) - GMMF

"Walk into a very special episode. Gave my mom found. I mike alberton. And who's with me tonight. Michael okay hughes and you can scream now if you want. A bill tucker. It's time to get nasty. I didn't even think of anything russell. Wow i was usually the most clever of all of us normally but this was not a movie. That movie hurt me and places. I'm bill i should say before is one we are. We are covering movie because we finish face to. It was time for build a comic book movie for us to to all watch. And why don't you know what you picked for us. I picked the twenty thousand and five plastic maybe that was classic sin city which is a agitation or as robert. Robert rodriguez puts a translation of the frank miller series of books again released in two thousand and five directed by robert rodriguez of a desperado fame and once upon a time in mexico and See spy kids. You know spy kids movies. Yep and a friend of quentin tarantino. So this is a very popey extremely faithful adaptation of the extremely dark violent and crude and crass and kind of amazing frank miller comic so i thought an interesting. You know. this isn't capes and flying people and superpowers. this is i a take on More of the darker side of i guess comic books and i don't know the books very well i don't know any comic books well but i figured it'd be an interesting conversation if nothing else. This is one. You don't need to know very well. I'm pretty sure. Because now. I have absolutely no interest in ever picking up this book in my life. The app collector's edition. Dvd which is sitting to my right. I was really into this back in two thousand and five. This was super my wheelhouse. So i do have the collector's edition. Dvd has actually the lamar of the entire marv book. It came with it. And it's it's almost shot for shot. I mean you could read this book and not see this movie as far as this. What's inside and i don't know if this was done specifically for this version or if this is the book actually is But rodriguez definitely wants to be as faithful as humanly possible to the source material. He really loves it and we will get into the way. This movie actually really does work quite well. And i think where sometimes goes over the line and we're that line is because i think that's actually where the interesting part of this is a very important thing. I got to mention before we go any farther. If i remember correctly your favorite movie is pulp fiction right. No it's not my favorite. Now it's i if you talk about tarantino my favorite tarantino movie is actually jackie brown good. I think because. I think the bail bondsman is the best character he's ever written or at least adapted because that is an adaptation. It's the only movie he's ever done. That's an adaptation so No i think. Jackie brown's better but politics is like a top three as far as as i as as we more. We watches movie. I'm like this is a lot like pulp fiction. And that's it gets off the off the beaten path but if you watch pulp fiction again with clear unfettered is like on the style. Gic is there are some dead zones in that movie. That are like this this this could use some trimming like we don't need this scene at all. We're just talking. There's nothing going on here. Just two people talking about nothing. That's moving the plot telling us about characters but anyway off topic okay. I couldn't remember. And i felt like that was an important thing to add here like thought i knew you liked it a lot a lot. I yeah i mean i. I've seen all of his movies multiple times. And i think he's phenomenal isn't credible director and rodriguez's very similar to be they're kind of john ritter directors tarantino especially And this is definitely a genre type of pulp film. Dr neha popular style comic book movie so it falls in house. Well i never seen all of it before. I've seen parts of it before i remembered the beginning and then that was about all that was in my head i realized is everything else was different. I saw this god. It must have been shortly after. It came out on dvd. I remembered the just calvo is a stripper and alleged was accountable in that was pretty much own. what happened. frodo doesn't keep the ring. that's his nails. Grow out like seriously dude. Get yourself some clippers. Come on now seriously man. And one thing i do have to say about pack a lot of stars in. I couldn't recognize half damn stars but to pack a lot in movie. I definitely recognize that a lot of names. Like you said he'd they don't quite are quite represented. Well well that's poor choice. Like i didn't realize mickey rourke was mar until like. Oh jeez because the only movie. I know mickey rourke from zooming you might be the same when and yeah. He's out. he's a extraordinarily ugly. Use your favourite. I remember this whole that whole discourse from ironman too when we are talking about. This movie is an interesting movie. As far as i was filmed to it was From what. I understand rodriguez he. He sheets a lot of stuff at home. 'cause after success of desperado and poor spy kids he just stays at home and shoot stuff has his own studio. I'm a huge proponent of digital a digital editing and digital photography and he basically shot most of this movie was standing actors and then brought in the real actors for a couple of days to just superimpose them upon the the shots. I don't think anything in this movie is real like sat wise. I don't think there's a single real set in the entire movie everything. Is you know green screen. It's it's a green screen movie from beginning to end. And if i'm wrong on that please feel free to ask me. I'm not gonna pay attention to you if you do so. It's really doesn't hurt my feelings. At all can't clones. Yeah exactly yeah. basically right. So and that kind of lends itself a lot of the surreal nature of this where it just doesn't feel real or nothing seems integrated even though it kind of is it's got a very interesting visual style which most people liked this movie for. I do too. I think it looks beautiful at parts earlier. Some stunning shots and To go with law the brutality and the horrendous acting and horrible writing but We were those things balance out so And before we get too far we are gonna talk about a couple. Like touchy subjects. Like child. Murderers and rapists and all sorts of things like that so just been warned because it might come up because this movie is batch insane. So i wasn't as insane. As i remembered honestly i remember i was i i. There's a couple of things couple parts in this movie. Where i was actually laughing and i'm like should i be laughing in my brain. Say yeah you can laugh. This is okay. This is cartoon wylie coyote stuff like fine perfectly fine lots and some stuff where it kind of goes over the line but we will You onward we got. This movie starts off with something. Like i understand the beginning at all because i had no you see a random guy which is another famous actor. Josh harnett okay. Yeah who who end up doing nothing after this. Because he was a huge star for maybe five years and it turns out he decided to stop. Acting like yeah. I'm not able to expand my creativity in the hollywood scene. So by like a star black hawk down language is a major major hit back in the arizona that forty days and forty nine four days. Yep if i remember that yeah good okay. That was just weird to me. How he didn't like very opening for like a two three minutes or maybe like five minutes but and it didn't make any sense. You just dancing with this girl. Which i don't know if she was someone famous to or not. I didn't really pay that much attention. And then she kills her like there. Was this very strange to me. I didn't really understand what was going on. I wasn't i didn't like it. It's it's all mood setting right kind of showing you. This is what this movie is going to be. We're going to have a lot of rain always raining insensitive because it starts to rain as their as he's doing his little monologue. It's just mood setting. it's cool. I think it's actually a really well done seen. I think it's very effective as far as setting tone for what to expect A very effective. And i think they're both really good messing actually so stood out to me. I was the the black and white how there'd be splashes of color every now and then in that scene it's address in her lips and then when he mentioned her eyes aglow little bit and i thought that was really cool. Only one person is that grabbed me every time they're on. Yep yep yep over the whole north thing you know this view i think. Has i love the visual. Styling of it again sometimes affects work. Sometimes they don't sometimes they're very dated. But i do think this as a husband has to Dan i think this is really well. Well done it's really again. A great table setter for what we're gonna have a for next hour and forty five minutes was a two hour long movie. It's two hours and felt like longer. I felt so bad for because these movies watch is always going to hate this. All gonna hate this too. And i'm i'm not gonna lie. I do. I think the discourse about this movie is going to be pretty interesting but also kinda sorta just wanted to get your reactions and watching something lot house. Yeah i want to put you outside your comfort zone. Because that's usually makes for good podcast material reactions. So yeah yeah and then we get to our credits which is a all the scenes in the credits are drawn from the comic right. So they as showing the actors and actresses names behind that they have the black and white drawings from the actual comic itself. The huge cast like you said like big all-star cast for two thousand five. I mean really coming up on. Clive owen like the year before he was nominated for an oscar for closer. He's a good actor in some movies. I forget he was in a bank robber movie. That's really good really. Don't i know what you're talking about. I don't remember though remember. I really like it where he keeps like. They don't realize it he's part of the crew or something and he's faking it. But i i wish i could remember what the hell it was called. I remember very good movie. I don't remember but broadcasting but it just weird it was such a weird mood inside man. Oh yeah okay okay. That's that's a good movie. You have never seen it. go watch it. There's my don't watch this movie. you can watch that. This movie is really creeped. Me out even like because i i was confused a little bit because they're like the movie stars off. You have that. Then you get. The bruce willis character bruce willis story line is not very long initial little chapter. I was like i i thought. Okay we have bruce willis and then he gets shot like is that the end. I mean they put him on coverage just to sell the movie and he's done. I'm like what the fuck i mean. Yeah it's fine he's So this gets us into the the second chapter like you were saying It's called the yellow bastard or that yellow bastard. It's the first part of it and this kind of book ends towards the end so surprise surprise. He's not dead at the end of this piece but somehow he shy at times. Oh i know well when he's plastic bullets radio So yeah this is and this kind of sets up now. What were the this is. The film new are rich in that kind of idea of again slashing rain and you have lots of angles and of course the black way and the lighting vary evocative and stark and sharp. The acting is terrible. Bruce willis of course is cliche cop number eighty five years old man john maclean. He's old beheads right. he's all mad. Tom mclean. He's retiring soon. My wife's got a fat juicy steak waiting for me ticker ticker who says bumped terror in this day and age even in two thousand five. He is do enough to do one last. Good thing before. He shuffles off his career Which is take out the young rourke who is a pederasts of disgusting proportions he figures he is the last one he asked to get right the last good thing he has to do. This is a movie. That's comprised of two to three word sentences driving there alone rain on wife. Scott steak state. Good and everything. Everything is just literally two to three word sentences. Which again is very kind of of that style of the frank miller comic very corny very cheesy. But it's kind of kind of delicious just dumb. It is and it doesn't care it has no k does not care how silly it is again. Meets up with mike. Matson of who of course is e quinton tarantino. Who's in a few of his film. I was trying to figure out who that guy was. I knew he's in reservoir dogs. All i recognized them from. But i couldn't place it really. He's also in kill bill. He's one of the He's one of the oh five. Yep he's easing kill bill so he plays the in kill bill to is his main part. lives in the trailer and he works at the strip club. And he's kind of like the disgrace the sassan who's just kind of said. Forget it. I don't care about this at all. Maybe after i recognize even more from kill bill he's been a couple of other things to Just pops up here there and everywhere In tarantino movies kind of a guy tarantino will throw them apart here. He got nothing else doing this weekend. Coming by play this role tarintino odd like that. Yeah he's loyal like that yeah he. He has his favorites. So he has his buddy cop his contract cup franchise to say. Don't don't don't do it. Got wait for backup. Of course he knows that's not gonna happen so he goes in and takes on The young little work tries to find him. That was weird to like this. 'cause they're all trying to rescue like eleven year old girl in essence where it just gets strange to like this guy. Rourke who is a. Senator son is a child molester and murderer and it's just his weary it's it's gross. It's really hard to watch is not pleasant material at all this when you had your trigger warning earlier. This is one of them right. This is definitely it. He obviously seen anything happen to nancy. Nothing you'll see anything right because that would have been just think the also he got there in time before he started torturing her yes a line at the end of the movie the basically says nothing happened before he got there. Yeah he was there in time to to save the day so to speak but yeah so They so what ended. The cop is haredim was a right handed argon again so cardigan with each. Got it okay with an age. But yeah the whole thing with nancy's hard to watch but it's not supposed to be easy right Who's the actor who plays creepy to become yellow man. Please go look up for looking right now. Is that senator work yeah. I don't knicks stall okay extol. He looks familiar. Isn't hang on a second. All right pause the show put pause on this. Can't john boehner and one of the terminator movies dramatic is. He's terminator three okay. That's what i movie it's fine. I'm like arnold schwarzenegger walks out of a grade with a coffin. Full of guns. I mean are a if you're not there for that then. I don't know what you're watching this her. But before ya actors are not recognizable in this movie. No no they're not they could maybe because they had stand ins for principal photography and then they came on for a day and had some fun. I can't believe that's what he did. He gets all these big stars and all it was this little moments. They're like here. Shoot a couple of things all right back to doing so. So so once Once mr again shows up or bruce willis kept writing down because they couldn't remember his name to. Yeah when bruce willis shows up the work tags him in the shoulder they run off to the dock where they have their big showdown and verve disgustingly. Bruce will- shoots off its ear in very close up slow motion fashion and it looks like it's minister from one hundred percent probably was robert is sitting in his kitchen like china mold styrofoam with like an exacto knife. Hey man check it out of gig right idea. He got some spray paint to worry about. What's going to get black and white and the impost norad. It's fine eighty percent of this movies in post. It's fine to worry about police to proceed sedan. Blow off his hand and then his nether regions happens often in this movie. Lots of people go for the nazis. But hey alright excellent then. Of course there's there. Yeah well well wait an hour talk. I know yikes okay. You got me. And i don't really care about stuff like that but it was his irradiating me. It's it's not pleasant and it's and there's no reason and again that's a big thing with this movie is it's directly directly basically shot for shot redoing the source material. So you can't blame anybody for this. You can't blame rodriguez for like. Why did you put that in there. He'll be like well. That other guy. Frank miller who also he's credited as a co director on this movie so that's the guy i guess you have to blame quote unquote but again. I don't really think there is any blaine. Had because you kind of know what you're getting into this is your first ten minutes really and this is setting the scene and this is basically telling you audience. Look this is what this is. This is what we're here for so if you don't like it now either turned off or leave the theatre. Maybe like maybe not confirm that i was light. Check the times like fifteen minutes. I'm like Jesus another hour forty five minutes of this man super as a kid. A kid two thousand five. I was a twenty five. And i was super into this Again not now grownup grown up now. But there's lots of things. i do. Think this movie as a lot of beautiful stuff in it so it is beat for beat in the comic of the movie. I'm looking at the comic right now. It is beat for be. Yeah even visually even from the staging of the actors. The actors look to they're framing. It's like yeah it's exact so the colors too and like the ear blowing off as right from the comic too. Yep yeah every nearly every shot is it's shot for shot so which is pretty much. Hey listen about adapting a film. I think actually turned after rodriguez labeled as a translation. He isn't considered us. Nat nation considered a translation. Like i'm taking this this this comic book and i'm putting it on the screen amount adapting it. Not changing it putting it on the screen In a very visually stunning anyway. Even the lines from here are straight from like the dialogue in the movie straight from the comic book too. Yeah yeah it's it's it's pretty remarkable when when you look at it in that way so why he had to shoot his nuts off and everything you just shoots the guy comp- i mean. The guy deserved it. Well there's lots of themes in this about masculinity and emasculate masculinization what that's not a word and approval of masculinity right. There's lots of that you know having to get this done. You know i gotta do for the girl This kind of like this old fashioned idea of masculinity and heroism. It which i think is a little old fashioned even for that era and i think that might tie into it. I could be looking into this way too deep in trying to find stuff to talk about but it is interesting that this happens multiple times throughout this film that is a common theme or a common occurrence so air board and three mortar. Three times is a common occurrence. So mike matson shows up from behind a shoots. Bruce wilson the back schools. Has this crazy very stupid line in a movie. Full of stupid lines is great. Such a man. Shoot your partner in the back like dude. You punch them in the face glasses. Listen i mean. Hey fair's fair i mean you know so. I just kind of bought that one and then lows them away. Boom boom boom sirens in the background and harding says fairtrade. Old man lives young or old man dies. Young girl lives fair. I really thought that was the end of closing movie. I'm like wow they. Just they used in the give a movie produced. I saw it felt and i. I didn't realize he comes back later. I thought that was the. i'm like. Oh that's all they did with him. I mean it's like putting spider van on the cover of marvel comics when he's only in one panel just to sell the comic so really not unheard of iowa. Okay and it wouldn't be the first time i've seen a movie. Where an on the cover. But they're not ashley in the movie. I mean it happens. It happens happens. Awesome featuring this person featuring that person music same thing featuring taylor swift and she's in the background going. Oh yeah that's basically feature or somebody's watching me like that song. Catering michael jackson. That's a great song. It's on you as it takes a weird turn. This is where. I got really confused. After he dies it jumps to the second the main storyline that i considered in this movie which is called the hard goodbye goodbye and i gotta say mickey rourke never looked like i don't know what the fuck mickey work looks like because he just looks like whatever the hell they throw on him and throw him in the movie in my notes. I haven't as he's a mixed to an addict tracy villain. Max payne tombstone from spiderman. Duke nukem in this movie was the combination all that yes green sky. Wolverine sees him with the car three times at top speed. It's fine. It's just get up and stagger to his own problem. Not by you know if ever. I say this is dumb. It is done right in the back of my brain and i can see robert. Rodriguez and quentin tarantino. Turner has going whatever turning back to whatever show. They're watching they don't care they know it's dumb but who cares. Enjoy yourself take it in for what it is. And i think that's how you have to approach this movie. And i. i didn't know this the comic the actual sin city comic. That is the story of the hard goodbye. It looks like where he wakes up oldies dead. And you have all that whole weird thing yet so since it. He's a series again. I think six books and these are four of them. And i think the other The other film does the other two or three. So this is a this is basically a series of books that Frank miller roads many many many years ago. And yeah this is just focusing on three or four of the of the books in that nineteen ninety-one one started. How okay okay. And it ran two thousand. Except also with frank miller one thing i don't know of heroin realized. He got to a certain point where he wrote comics. Justice sell a movie. That's all he did. He would write a concept. Make up something. Make a couple of issues just enough for a movie that he would cut the seer. Cut the series and move on. And that's he's like he's made so many movies because of that. What a maverick or not. Maverick what i Mercenary they okay. Absence of what he does. And i know people in the comic world when people don't like him for that all he trying to do is make move into eighties cartoon executives who make cartoons just sell toys on to this day started i feel the go. Bots out there to To american audiences we go bots house at my family. Boy oh yeah were cheaper. Transformers toys made us long ago. It's pretty good. Yeah so so. We start off with work. We need him In the throes of passion with goldie made no sense to me. Well i mean it. Everything is dropped him without context right. So you bruce willis dies next thing we have. Is you know hanky-panky that they extraordinarily ugly ban in the extraordinarily a beautiful woman. And you're thinking okay. What's going going on here. Strange but again no context throws me in there turns up he wakes up the next morning. She is dead. He is baffled that this happened. Because no one's sneaks up on mickey rook as he is mickey rourke and decides that. He is going to avenge her even though he's only known her for one drunken night. It and i think you do see a brief shot of frodo in the background sneaking up in the house before he passes which elijah wood was movie probably Yeah this is. This is all stage setting for the for the you know. Basically his entire motivation for this entire film. No other motivation needed. That's it revenge comcast and kill goldie. Gotta find the guy killed goldie. That's it the only girl has ever been nice to him. Take a shot. Every time he says goldie seriously you do that. You know what. It'd be more comfortable way to finish this movie often watching out midway through a more enjoyable when you get to the later part being drunk off your ass when you're watching that you guys didn't enjoy this. I actually had. I had a decent time with it to be honest. I don't think. I loved it as much as i did. Back in two thousand and five is. I like to say in growth happened but i really still enjoy this for what it was kind of. Lean into it lemans go. Mike was the lowest. I'm in the middle and you're the highest. I'm pretty sure that's the way to put it might be. I think that's a super fair. Bet i can guess before episodes thank loans. I think that's no no risk there. There were there. Were parts that. I enjoy like everything with marv. Like when he's breaking out and he's fighting the cops and he stealing a car here was a cool thing where he jumps through the front window. Car feet i okay i was like okay this is kinda cool in the splashes of blood the only read on the screen and everything is black and white. I mean work. Who'll moments where i'm like. I was getting into the movie but is just like when the violence gets violent it gets so the top like n even with block and white and it's not and it's kind of cartoony in a in a in a in a sense it just there. Were a couple of things that really. I was just like nope on the checkout. Like you had after you read. They'll tell you what. I wrote down a sexy claire where i gotta say. This movie loved half naked. Women putting here for some reason. There's nothing about how there's there's nothing but which again i'm not complaining. It just didn't feel from the comic like that. That claire standing there with a gun just just in their underwear. That's straight from the comics. I've been flipping through the conquest. We're talking straight up panel panel. Yeah and we just really quickly when he would he throw in When a throat network jeez when Barr thank you win. Mar of Dishes the car into the ocean or the into the late. Guebre it is. He does his best. Mario brothers and kind of just swims in the water without breathe. We're he does. Yeah you're right. Just go through a five to yeah. I noticed that too man. He's been underwater for a long time is rather silly but again. This is the comic book part of of this movie. And it's finally say okay movie. I'll i will accept your accept your silliness because he's clearly gonna be violent and silly angry and all the above but yes me claire. And she's His parole officer. Of course. I like claris she. Yeah she's good she. She provides him his medicine which i guess keeps them from being a homicidal maniac. Because clearly you can take for that obviously He has a nice little monologue about how these are the old days. Were just being people in the face. Ms what you do. Because that's that's what you do in the bad old days boy. It is him like we haven't mentioned yet but like there's more over narration and monologue adding to the audience than there is spoken dialogue in this movie. Oh yeah everything's everything's narration is lucille seal. Yeah you're right. Claire is someone else. It's it's very twenties radio detective show like this and it's the vibe is going for it right and that's kind of what this is. It's like you said a lot. Mostly nation not a ton of dialogue. The dialogue is there. It's not terribly good nor is performances. Very good. I doubt whether or not the actors were in the same room. I don't know because again this is all this is all done pre product postproduction. The more you told me. I don't want to ruin the same state for some of the stuff. So oprah swells your your your your bathroom right just shooting a bathroom. It's cool. yeah it's just take your phone and just do that's fine. Don't worry about it it's fine. I'll fix them post office. Just system. weird ass shit. Everything of marvis strange like you like you have the part with the lucille and you have heat merged people in an alley which was kinda cool and when he goes. There's a saloon that keep popping up throughout the movie at least through mars part and then continues on. And you see jessica alba's character which she goes by the name. They call her by her character's name disbarred or just something else. I can't remember they do nancy okay. It didn't click to me that that's nancy. All grown up from the first did not click until wayne or the end of the movie. Men will get there. that's britney murphy right. i saw sars-like all. Yeah you had to you kind of have that moment. Yeah they ought about her. And then i remember yeah not not actress. I think about very often well. She was a pretty big star at that point to like she. She was She was an eight mile Which i think one of our bigger roles she had a bunch of a bunch of work sheet. Apparently that count. I've seen movie was. She passed away. I don't remember from what monja. Oh god at age of thirty two for my age right now. Brutal brutal that sets us on a lot of movies too. I'm looking at her all her movies and it was a lot before she passed away. She did she did a lot of work again. Everyone in this movie is most. Everyone is a pretty big star at this point. And we also be clive owen. Who plays dwight. We have no context on who this person is in britain. Murphy gives him a coy. Smile as she hands him a whiskey and he delivers one of my favorite lines in this movie where he explains. How marv is like he. Clearly he knows who marv is in the explains to the audience in narration has. Michael clearly has said camp explains how marv was born in the wrong century. Like he really should have been born with the vikings or with light the gladiator his and that explains a lot like someone. Who's almost addicted to the violence. And addicted to debris tally and the and the energy of that right of that kind of adrenaline. Rush of being brutal. So yeah there was an interesting little moment. I like that quite a bit. Then we get our dancing. Reveal which is you know meant nothing went right over my head i really. I had no idea who i'm like. Oh just kalpa. oh yeah. She's in this movie. Yeah that's as far as it went. She was a big deal. This time to jessica alba was a huge net contesting for movie. A bunch stuff. She had dark angel at one point. I like just go. Buy a fantastic core. Movie will be on the show at some point. Sure will but it will be some point. Sure it will but yesterday kinda again her intro. Which is one of those like you know like embarrassed with my wife's around like seriously now for the podcast for the show by choice is old me. This was watching my computer by the way this was not an act. This is not for public consumption. I asked my wife. I'm like i'm gonna watch sin city. Do you wanna watch it with me. She goes. I've never seen it. I'm like he's got a lot of violence in fact and why. It's a colleague. Booby she goes. Have fun with that. My wife i don't work today. She's like oh. I already want to home like well if you were home than you'd have to watch this movie with me. She's like yeah. That's true that's fair. I think she would rather pick work than watch this movie with mike. How i'm saying i'll work so So once we get our introduction to mr owen and alba go ahead say. I'm jeff actually. Enjoy watching this movie with me. And she got she was like during the marv stuff. She's like what the hell is wrong because he just wouldn't die but she was into the movie. He's max payne who and what. I like the way the way. The movie goes virtual. She's like no. I'm good. I don't need to see any of that in my ear right. You don't need any of that now now because there are there are some tricky things in here For sure so but thank you for that trigger warning for god move up. Move right along so This is a silly seen this again. This is more of just. This is this is really more just for the sake of violence. Marv is led out by the by couple hitmen Who are easily dispatched and again brutal violence fashion shot and all the rest of it He takes their code which is very funny. Recurring guide theme mighty fine. That's a fi co you have We have our second crotch shot of the of the of the production for twenty minutes into crotch shots. A fine of course. He admits to give them the next clue to lead him to the big bad blown away. And then we see we see goldie. Oh i joined. When does this take place. Is this take place after the rest of the stories have ended no camp because this has to take place before because nancy is still at. So win bruce willis character walks in and sees nancy the bar the end. You can see mar at the bar so this at least takes place after that. Okay right and i guess it gonna make sense that she would just go back to a job right. It's not like she's not gonna work anymore. Yeah i don't know that doesn't really. it's not clear. yeah. I don't know okay. That's what i was thinking of your and yeah we see goldie. She's there the gun. Now get you for this city. Sent him what the car is. It asked if i think is right near here where they go out. He goes outside shooting at him. I do we see her before she. She's so hang on one second. Oh yeah no no. This is after this is what we have our montage of him beating people up in violent brutal ways are we had the shot of him shoving someone's face into a toilet which also With the on that was actually later. See that's funny. I just said. I just said the sentence he pushes. Somebody's face into a toilet. Beats them with the lid ono. That happens later. Which implies there's two parts in this film pushed into a toilet and gets as i said the toilet guy. We are faced scrape with the car. Which made me laugh. Hard good is out about you. But i'm having a baugh. It's great marvis driving down the road holding this guy's face to the road as he drives the gross play. It is laugh at is played for laughs. And that's kind way to kind of lean into it and realize how comet bookie and silly this israel. Shortly after this ashby played for laughs. Yeah point so we can get to the church with a priest. We have this. There's just a little bit of religious subtext in here like the evil of religion. Okay ka very hand handed like that stuff but not not didn't really fit. Okay that's fair. I it's fine i it's just seemed kind of ham handed at the bad of course is a priest and the priest has his hands in everything but everything points to work blows away the priests again very stylish fashion according to be the priestess frank miller oh really okay not i did not know that we learn something new neither. That's what i m d visas must be and then we get probably one of my favorite lines in the movie as he's leaving the church Marv says that modern cars all look like electric shavers with i. I love that. Because he's so right. I ever ever since i've seen that movie for the last fifteen years later every time i think i just driving along and i'll see a car and like looks like an electric shaver. Martha's right it does. I will think. I'd probably thought that thought three hundred times since every once in a while i look at a car and say no. What is it like an electric shaver. He's got a point. It's just further proof that he's born in the wrong century brawn born in the wrong century. And this is when we get to the point where goldie will fake goldie as we come to learn runs over. The car hits some three times. No biggie had just let's back into his vehicle. And i have it in my notes marvis stuck in a boss fight sort of those cheap ass boss fights. The were the enemy keeps. Hit you and you get up. They'd knocked out again. And then i don't remember why but something happened and he heads to the farm like oh. I think the priest tells them to go to the farm. The finally spills the beans that it's divorced kid goats the farm. You'll see everything you need to know. That shocks them. i like. He's driving there. He's trying to take his pills but all the medicine keeps falling out of his mouth. All over the place. Figures wipe is mouth just dumps. It's like oops that's not good. That's the sign of bad things that happen and this is probably one of the goriest and sick. It's things that are watching a movie in a long time that yes this whole farm park. I don't i don't like it at all. you're not supposed to. I mean. I don't know i thought we know movies. I don't like gore. And i don't have i know it's fake. I just like i just don't like it. It doesn't do it for me. And he gets hidden. A i forgot. He ended up fighting elijah woods character. Which is elijah wood. He's a little guy that moves fast and has nails. That are razor blades. Or something like weird like that. Charlie browser and the charlie brown and doug and cons which which disease the second character in this movie who wear Super rad comes and he's gonna anime glasses. Where typically you dec- white circles in front of his is his actualize very good. Yeah he takes up smashed in the face with a sledgehammer because he's got blood his eyes and i think this is what you're talking about in the ends up in the sell. This part got me like i had no member writing. I did not remember it but like you. It doesn't take long before he wakes up in the cell lucille's there and she's like he eats them. He made me watched. I'm like what the fuck and it just. She ends up showing she one. You see all these heads on the wall. He had just had people's heads on the wall women's heads and then you find out she's missing. She shows you. She's missing her hand and he ate were hand and she had to watch them. Eat it like it is just a groat like everything a little disturbing little bit. It's rather disturbing. Yeah yeah you could say rather worse. I forgot about the hand eating. When i was watching it and i was forgotten about it. And then when they reveal. That was like wow. That's just not pleasant. Not pleasant. At all i i i did not get that so please all right. He's meant to be very disturbing like even all the cops show up. And then i like it. Where lucille's i missed shooter in the head anyway. She's when you find all the cops are you know. Evil to and they're working for the senator. Who's you know corrupted. Just just everything about this part we just so depressing. Just want to turn off the movie and be done. I see this. It's tough this. This is about half an hour now and this is this is not pleasant at all. The the thing with this also is the first time where you kinda see how this movie really treats. And it's easy to say it's exploitive because it is. It's it's like an expectation almost but when we get to old town you can. We'll talk about that but this is how we're kinda refers to. He's first dame's a lot which again that. Nineteen twenty and nineteen thirties. Mash emir. i'm damien like a lot of that kind of style and also he has line here he says you know sometimes dame's is need to scream it out and i'm like no style. Mental health works in the something we learned in iron man three build. Something you're fine. Just get some legos. You're good so i mean you know so we're we're kind of starting seeing some of the backwards way that this movie does tree women again. What's okay in two twenty. Two thousand five is probably not okay now just the way life works. The ways history works society all that but again taken in the context of the film. I can't get mad at it. I can't get all social justice warrior on it Because it's it's what is this is the world you living in right now where this is kinda how it is by these ancient. Didn't think about you know like This was actually everyone. No one minded right. No one really brought this up. The critically acclaimed pricks love this. This jose seventy something percent on rotten tomatoes which is about right and but when i remember when it first came out it was critically lauded like. This is a visual spectacle. It's a visual breakthrough. This is wonderful right. It's a great adaptation known. Really mentioned this part of it. You know like hyper violence. How desensitizes and all that sort of thing so it's live in different times for sure But yeah he breaks out after some exposition that we already knew that cares about again when this movie starts really just sitting and talking feel free to to now because there's nothing interesting really happening already know what's going to happen and then like you said mike they Police come they blow away. Lucille off goes through the hatchet. The some Some business at that point right. Yeah yeah he key kills everybody there. There's no sign of the suspect. He's like here's your sign you swings the accidents dude in the crotch like what is it what this movie and balls. We're number three. It's just unnecessary. And it's just like you're teddy me it it just it. Just the violence of this part with everything like just really kind of made me not get into this movie all totally. I mean when it comes to all the different parts. This was probably. This area is one of my favorites. So i mean there's i mean i've i've some. Their thought were later on. Of course the biggie. Which will get to i. I did like it when he gets caught by the hookers and he's tied up in in old town where all the hookers live that. That was amusing me. And they're beaten him with a gun and when he finds out goldie goldie sister. She looks just like goals twin sister and when he when he gets done. Okay let's go kill rock and he just the ropes that were supposedly tied him. He just drops him off like they were nothing. Just leaves did amuse me. It made me laugh a little one. Take the chance to talk. Some sense into me says right. He figured you know he. He figures it's a weird lying bounced between. You're not really a threat. So i'm not concerned to or and that the other side the line which is what the is trying to do is say. Oh he's not gonna hurt a woman right even though he does you know fifteen minutes later even like her women. Yeah i don't. I don't hurt dame's that and just kind of showing. Hey he's he's clearly not the person who who did this. Even though they thought he did. And he's willing to help event her timely demise rosario dawson who was a pretty big star at the time as the as lead lady of the night. I did like that. But i also have a thing for any dressed up and dominatrix outfits. I have a thing for that like one. The complex that. I bought the first. The first invaders is you. I bought which is a nineteen world war. Two comic captain america name or and the human torch but not johnny storm human torch the first issue. I bought it that that made me interested to read that book with there's a ariza villain for some reason. Nine hundred seventy s as a dominatrix villain who works for hitler and has watched it goes on here and i bought that comic book confessing ally here on the show. One of sesame world war two. And i i just love everything about that and that that's and i own the entire run of that show. I never read it. But i have the entire raj because it because of that comic the the second time rosario dawson's shown up on this show might it was the first time in percy jackson Okay you know what. I liked this version better. That's all i i it. It got my attention that i was like. Okay now now. I'm interested more movie so texan by the she. Kinda give me a an eighty s storm with a mohawk vibe. Yeah yeah absolutely. What did you guys think of town as a setting as an idea. I'm not the person to be asking right now. Mike you got nothing i was. This think it's very interesting. Because that's where again this tone the line between female empowerment and exploitation Because again it is played for you know titillation. For the most part right scantily clad women prancing around prostitution thing but it also can make a case for Empowerment how they they owned it right. They own town. They're no longer slaves or subject tuition. Cicely they're no longer subjects are subservient nest the better term. They're no longer subservient to the mob or to the pimps. They've cleaned it out and now they have their own community. Really of let's be honest of sex workers and depending on how you feel about that sort of thing is totally up to your prerogative but You know and that's kinda isn't empowerment to that. We take care of ourselves. We don't need anybody else to take care of it and we have this kind of deal struck with the cops. Where hey they don't come over here bother us. We don't bother them. We give freebies and that's kind of the shaky truce that we have. I really really like that. I think there is something somewhat empowering women not only owning this you know again regardless of what you think about the actual work that they're doing them kind of owning this piece of this very violent and brutal world I think is rather cool. So i like all this stuff actually quite a bit i did too i i really did but then again like i said before it was. I was much more interested in the movie. When rosemary dawson showed up. And she's like what kind like just give. Just give them what you have thought for a little bit here. I'm interested in school. Yeah yeah. I have a collection. I was like all right. Absolutely this alexis fidel's character to god. I get like this movies mostly black and white with something colored and for those. That don't know who that is. It's the girl from gilmore girls younger one and her eyes are blue eyes just pop out so much and i every time he's on screen. I'm just like i can stare at. Her is his whole time level. Okay like i. I just i just like her life. I think she after like the movie. Sisterhood of the traveling pants when she's in joist To see her in given the other stuff that she's done yeah hey she's in kaduna handmaid's tale to is she really ever ever watched that mike toko near it. Oh handmaidens i hear. It's pretty brutal. Yeah i won't see it. I will you. You should watch it. Just i want to. Yeah i've been. It's a really good show and it's a very well done show but there are too many similarities to our current world again. A little creepy to watch and like it thought for chose you. What would happen if you let certain. Religion ideas run the world in today's world where women are pretty much almost like slaves and stuff like women can't read against the law for them to read and you break the law. They don't throw you in prison. Hr cutting things off depending on what you did. Jeez it's like let's figure you had a marriage sex out of wedlock with someone and you're married. They're not just gonna arrest you or know you shooting they're going to drown you drown you. Instead is your punishment is all very broad show. But it's very good. I just i can't hand. I can't do it but it's very good actress. And she's in that in that show. She plays one of the handmaid's and it's she played very like very adult character and she does a very good job acting. You check it out. Yeah i been. I been Wanting to see that. So i think I definitely want check that out. So after this parts that we we make our way to to the farm back to the farm. Wendy goes with Work they have some conversations repeating things you already know. Y- goldie was the only one that was kind today. That's it Every once in a while he's every once in a while he slips and calls herbie which is which is pretty interesting because he kinda shows that he's starting to get a little confused. He spilt all his medicine on the floor and with his big myths. You can't pick it up so it's just yeah we get to the farm. He actually picks up some supplies from the local hardware store for the as the keeps said. The old holidays are the old home. Security is razor wire and his tubing and his everything else. We get back to the farm bikes favorites location. This is when. I wanted to turn the movie off yet. This gets this is this is the. This is the roughest part. He he sets up a trap for Elijah wood is yes. He sets up a trap for elijah. Wood throws a gas canister into the house. The house he leaps out dodgers all the traps. They have some close quarters Marv applies the handcuffed to plaza handcuffed to his wrist and that prevents him from jumping around and then one good shot across the jaw. The very fake blood plop across the screen and we get to the scene where he uses that rubber tubing and we see the demise of kevin which i just remembered the character's name was kevin. This is one of the show any and you don't see what you talked about. He didn't even make single noise. When i cut off his limbs and i'm like what and then as camera pans out you just see lijun would sitting there were no arms and no legs just smiling and then there's a dog you see earlier than the dog comes over. I'm just like turn off this movie. Now yeah anyway. You only see the really brutal brutal stuff that really the most brutal thing is of course the dog pulling at the meat of his leg but you see that all in stark silhouette in like white on black silhouette. So it's not you know. Obviously it's not as gruesome. You would think a toes the line. I've seen worse a saw this year. Nothing because you look for it. I do not. I know no no no no i do not look for it. It's not mug going on gross face dot com and seeing the whistle disgusting more movie. I go next next next. Well let's just say. I saw the lighthouse earlier. This and the ending of the lighthouse is worse than that. So they'll never watch that movie. Thank you god mazing hope. It's a beautifully made movie on the best movies. I've seen in quite some time. I heard about it. I might like it a little more than parasite anyway but yeah so so. So michael where where were you on. The scene Then bothering like it's a. It looked so fake. That like there's worth stuff in. There is an earring very fake. It's very it's not meant to be silly. it's meant to be gross in harrowing doesn't quite pull that off i. It's it's fake. It's obviously not a really really only show for a few seconds before it cuts back to the close up of firdaus face right right which is which is pretty chilling. Which is that that. That's him have him just like staring off into the distance while his was left of his limbs or being devoured by an animal his own dog. He is on wolf not fun. A fun best. That piece is very just as the part that i was like when the next because after he does he kills him he show he goes back to just all apartment and i was wondering now once i figure out who nancy was. This was taking place after the the yellow bastard event part ends and she's back working again. That's kind of how i took it now. I've seen the movie. This this two seconds seen that just starts and stops. It doesn't do much and he gets. He gets shot up and arrested in a police. Beat them and you have all that happens. It's where it looked. It sounds like he was in prison for a while. I think before they ended up taking electric chair. just murderer. well yeah. I mean i don't know. Did you mean this is well. Because after this very brief scene we he goes after work the priests. Yeah he goes out. The priest rourke and he has a little salt on their. You know we see him snaps. Dexin very quick. There's no big deal getting into the bedroom of of pope work and Hands over kevin's head. Whose memoir though the to decapitations in this is like it's still like super fake but it says so gross. Yeah it's clearly a prop head i again. You have your your little religious dig where he plops it on the bible on open. Bible your pops it right down on on his open bible. It's like okay. Well we find we get it but the symbolism robert yeah so ca we learned that kevin he was aware of kevin's eating situation He joined in the eating white lights and it was only a was only prostitutes to aid right. They weren't people they were actually people with no hearts thoughts and feelings of kind of or should i guess i'll look at how some especially some people in religion you know that are very religious upbringing view sex workers of you and that kind of way i mean not be eaten but just like at their that. They're criminals are in a different way. Right i feel. I can cite and get. I mean they were going very extreme extreme version of it. But that's kinda how i took it. Yeah i mean it's probably symbolise. Yeah again it's just it's ham handed and the were sotirios. So i want to say mr rodriguez really mr miller. That's crazy. he's a crazy man. I'm sure he's sounds like a crazy man but that's fine. Allowed elbow takes goldie to the airport. I don't remember that in the film but it's in the comic and i'm looking at right now we're talk. Oh well okay. I i don't i don't know i guess that might be part of the story. That might be part of the comic. That i just didn't Maybe there's also a bunch of deleted scenes. A lot of violence was deleted from this movie. There's violence removed. So i don't know if it's on the deleted scenes. I didn't get a chance to watch it. I wanted to before this recording but got busy. I'm i did. We mention that kevin was the one that killed goldie. I don't know. I don't think we mentioned it but it's kind of understood. He's the only person that could have possibly done it. I don't even know if it's explicitly said it's it's yeah it's like you said that when kevin sneaks up on margaret before he's like well known sneaks up on me except for the bastard who killed goni which means that this guy did it and gad wendy wants to kill kevin herself and that's why maher hits a woman rice right. Wouldn't do right daddy right. Yeah she wants to finish off and he's like no. I'm not gonna let you get the satisfaction of killing his person humanely I'm going to brutalize him. In the most vicious way possible everything. Marv does brutal. Like when he when he gets to the pope and he kills was the was the senator. Or i don't know the pope is okay. Yeah the senator. I think is the son of the pope and then yellow face is the son of the senator. Okay yes that's right. What was his brother. It might be brother easy brother or dad or who knows. Just the pope seems pretty old. So i don't know if he's was wondering leach doesn't matter he's his. Evidently mur marv crushes his face and the law of the virus has offscreen in. This movie is more jarring than the stuff. That's onscreen this one. Really gami me like you don't see what's happening. You just hear crunching and straining and then you see the blood spotter on marv as he's doing whatever he's doing what he's doing really don't that i don't wanna see that they'll be back soon. He was like crushing his head with his hands. Op assuming with his mitts was last time. I say that just makes me laugh. He refers to his this midst but then they cost me in the movie so he didn't. He didn't lose that he did then. The cops appear. They see him doing what he's doing. They shoot him twenty times and ends up in the hospital. And this is kind of the the this mirrors heart again later on the film kind of what he does in the hospital. He gets framed on his last night before his execution. Wendy appears but says it's okay to call him call her goldie which i think actually strangely sweet she. I mean that's our understanding that you know. He's yeah he's this is his last night on earth. So now what call me. Goldie a little solace salil piece low comfort before for your attribution than fine. Let's go for it so all that's how yeah all. That was kinda sad. Oh sad it was interesting to me. I was watching it. And i'm like oh this this is this is a downer. You know because. I know what's going to happen right but i was thinking like. Should i be all that sad because mar doesn't need to be. He's he's got to go. He's a problem like this man's a time bomb waiting to go off like if he survived his whole escapade with work. He does his medication. Would run out 'cause Lucille gone his contact is gone. So do you know what this might be for the best. Can we all agree. But yeah then he. They zap him. It happened twice because again very gross. He's like spinning a blood. Go hunt that all you your pansies. Yeah it was like. I was like i'm ready to be. I was like oh my my nearing the end of this movie. And i'm like no. I had a good laugh at that. That's funny it's funny. That's a funny line allowed. What did you think about all this. This whole jail sequence there. michael the dislike. Let wendy lay down with them like she spent the night with them in a jail cell. Very good point. I think yeah but i mean in the world that the film would they just let him have just this last night with somebody maybe. Nobody seems very sympathetic. To anybody in this film in this world of sin city right. That's a good question. Also if they were going to electrocute anyway why let him sit in a hospital for eighteen months to heal and then immediately beat him to death anyway or near death. Craziest is took it because this whole town like everyone's corrupted everything. Is there something wrong going on so hold on. I'm piecing this together. Police break into the folks house. The shirt this guy that killed a hundred times and then they take a hospital like tried to kill them when they shot him well. I think we're the police. Because i think what they want to do. Is they want to frame. They want to delight the frame up. And that's a lot of this movie to with hannigan as well are harrigan keeps saying the wrong with bruce willis as well as they they don't just want to kill somebody to want to embarrass them humiliate them and escalate them. And that's and that's the thing again. That's i think. A big theme of this is that emasculated masculinization. I should say that word of its not real that kind of with the crotch shots and the and the actually. I can see that being a thing in this movie because everybody needs thing that makes sense. Yeah because everything and everybody in this movie are evil. Evil people right. There's no real reason for everyone to be this evil they are. They're all these archetypes. Are these you know very one noted villainous characters just evil for the sake of it like this movie there's no exploration of its of its evil and violence is just celebrating it and and hand waving it and i think that's one of the bigger problems with this is is that no one takes any responsibility for this right like if you're going to be grossing violent again. The lighthouse is horribly violent. The ending scene in that movie is when most were some things. I've seen on film in years but it's also well earned. It's deserved it. Works for it. It's beautifully shot. I just gloriously shot. it's artfully done violent snug good. Now after after the show. I'll tell you guys near gonna say But don't want the show you can tell us yeah. I don't wanna spoil here because you should go see this movie though. See the lighthouse talking to us. Yeah they know. They've earned that they earned that ending of that movie. Instant city rodriguez would probably say well. That's just what's in the comic book and a free miller would say that's what's in my brain and no one's taking the time to really examine it and really see if they should his frame. Yeah probably yeah. No one knows and i was thinking about it. It's just this kind of celebration and glorification without any thought to to what they're actually celebrating glorifying as a piece of pope media. I think it's fine right but you can't take it more than that. Which is why stuff. Some of the stuff in this movie does come off unearned and just there to shock you and shock value and Definitely the scene with his limbs. That's shock value. There's no reason for it. It is no reason other than to do something gross onscreen slash on the page. Which doesn't make me a and again. I have no problem with that. Sometimes i just ran out of steam there but anyway it doesn't examina- thing it's just putting it on screen for you to deal with or not deal with. Sometimes it's fun then sometimes it is not and We're gonna get some stuff. That's not fun but marv getting electrocuted and going. Why don't you do that again. You pansies is very fun and very funny really liked the next story in this movie. That was probably my favorite part. Is movie the big fat. Kill where you disagree of clive. Owen who is apparently like a guy who thinks he's mission impossible and has changed his face salton or changes. you know. he's a different people. He looks different or something. But keep making keep making comments about it. This early come up doesn't say why. But they do say he looks different stuff. He's a he says. I think they mentioned. He's a he's he mentioned. He's a murderer and he had to get changed his face to because he has he's escaping the scene that we're going to get you right now. The cop pulls up behind him. And he says i'm one fingerprint away from going back to jail. Oh yeah okay. I i like clive owen in this movie like i didn't like this move. I enjoyed his part. And i enjoyed the story. More than anything like it. Opens up your brittany murphy apartment brittany murphy support. Whatever where. She won the waitresses from the saloon. Now she's an apartment in he's over there and then this asshole guy who played by benicio del toro yes yes which just guy can act. Because i've seen another movies like more recently. He's in galaxies in the last jet. I and equation completely different character and all three of those movies like completely different. I'm like pretty good. Yes but these are the toro's a phenomenal actor. He's done so much good work over there. He's the collector Yeah he's name seem familiar. I don't like his character and his movie. But you're not supposed to because he's a woman beater in an asshole and a. He's just bad but he does a good job of acting. His delivery is so interesting and different. It's his delivery. Is something out of a comic book like. You would think that's kind of how it's got such an interesting His delivery in this movie Hand they just hand. The city complicated retailers. Here you go yeah basically. That's pretty much probably what they did to are. Also very i mean on on how well no was enough. Fear and loathing in las vegas plays dr gonzo and he is glorious in that movie. I adore that movie. I don't care what anyone says. A beer big fear. Loathing fan never seen it yet. I is we'll see you should see everyone should see it. I need to be smoking something. I don't smoke. why go watch it but no no. I actually asked me about this a couple of years ago. Like why do you like that movie. So much in the way i i won't get into i. Let's move this show is this podcast is already at an hour. Plus of it has its own it. Has its own stimulants in it like. You don't need to be augmented high or anything like that to see it. 'cause 'cause terry gilliam director has that all baked in like it's just so visually exciting and brain alternate like your brain china. Make sense of this movie but it can't because there's so many weird things happening that don't make sense it kind of alters your state for you so but it's also a wonderful wonderful mediation on the american dream on jabs. Go on and on. I will not. We're already running long so innocent. When when the when the actual company should tell taurasi brings in his gang of idiot and like you have him threatening brittany murphy all better get another man here. And i don't remember he slapped my boyfriend in the other room or something and when the guy goes to the bathroom and he's talking stupid and he's taking a piss like this part was just unnecessary. I mean straight from the comics where clive owen characters. Hiding in the shower comes out but you raise your blade to his neck and then shoves is facing the toilet in the toilet for a while. And i thought for sure he was gonna drown them. He does have a line here. Where jackie boy is like. You're making a big mistake and clever use made a big mistake to you. Didn't flush the toilet discussing but that's a great line is very good line. I feel like this goes on way too long when they're when they're in the apartment is his troops go troops go in there and they're kind of leering at brittany murphy and it just goes on this one just this. How along part like the whole him chasing after them 'cause after that they leave and him chasing after them then he he end to end up in old town trying to get with the gilmore girl like it just goes on too long but i mean again anytime. She was on the screen. I was happy. So i was like okay. Just because there is your is in this movie. I said it before but damn they did a good job with their blue allies. I really like her. We get we get our expert exposition on old town. That's when you learn that this kind of truce in place we learned that dwight is is is well known here. Dwight used to have a thing with dawson. Which which is kind of weird in doesn't it they of say it and then you understand it and then they kiss at one point and that's how you're supposed to know that they have a romance because there's nothing else yeah. We're not taking the time to do this character building stuff. Let's just get to the head shopping and all that fun stuff that you came from clearly onboard in this part though yes we do i love. I like roseanne adoption in general but in this movie with all the women from you know the hooker town like i was just entertaining this part this this this had and then there's there's a part i didn't catch it where when he hadn't after benicio del toro's character he makes a comment brittany murphy. Says something where you can hear it and you don't find out later. He said she that he's a cop well before we where he gets all that. Yeah because because i really do want to spend a little bit of time on Mio and the and this is an example of what violence in this movie when it's when it's done well when it's done properly because this is p. your wylie coyote cartoon goofy silly wackadoo. Violence like yeah. This is not meant to be gross. It's not meant to be shocking. This just meant to be a lot of fun because violence can be a lot of fun in the right context. I think the pacing of this is great. You know his slow car. You said gilmore girls basically tell them look. Get out of here. You're about to make a big mistake and cassette and the trap. The pacing is good and then the payoff is great. I i put out is i put in my notes. Here actually stopped the movie to write. All these beats down. Because i felt like i had to. Jackie pulls gun and hilarity ensues. So his friends get slashed through the head. And i through the car. Jackie gets his hand cut off with just with a fountain of white blood was going from it he. He crawls to his gun gnaws his hand his fears off of the trigger of his own gun. He gets a throwing star. That's a swastika in his backside. Worked as he gets his pin thrown into the barrel the barrel backfires and then turns his neck into clive. Owen calls a pez dispenser. This is so funny and silly and cartoony and i. I adore this so great Michael did you. Did you share my in my joy. I enjoyed this though. I don't like you know poor for no reason. But i enjoyed it. It's definitely just more over the top violence. Yeah but you didn't. It didn't read to you as as kind of funny and silly and no not really strange. I don't know but recognize me. How though God i even try and pronounce actresses name but she whisk assuming in the dinner alive movie. I was just gonna say that. Oh meet me to watch the trailer right now. For dead or alive that have seen and i kind of remember liking it. I know it's one of the lowest rated video game movies but it's going to be on the show. Has lois lane smallville. On that on that. Too as can't remember the delegates but i don't think so i just watched the trailer look like it. But speaking of smallville what was her name the. Tell the girl that could tell the the clark dated for a little bit aleisha. Her actress sarah. Carter is in it and man. I had the biggest crush on her back about the time. That smallville officer came out. Why not later on this show wise saw that movie so yes that point at this point we get all our fun violence out of the way they find out. He's a cop like you said mike. And that's a problem because that that means he and he's a hero cop like he's a big deal cop that could put the entire truce at risk So we get our next scene. Where we're you to go to the pits and get these And go to the tar pits to bury this car and these people and And then we kiss between unnecessary necessary. Yeah his his warrior woman as he continues to keep calling her again kind of big masculinity kind of thing going on it was fine to find. Give her a kiss and move on. Let's get to the pets. Let's get going twice in thirty seconds. Yes he calls her about greece twice in thirty seconds. Yes this movie. Why did you make us watch this. I think it's interesting. It's not capes and speed and spandex and you know and it's not character development and it's could writing in all true comments. Yes i it's it's really interesting. Adaptation of a poll. Duar comic book did last when unique. It's unique when they load because he keeps saying. I need hard talk with a with a fast engine. Hard top like he just keeps saying it and they get him a car. He complains about the car and they don't have to sit all the bodies in the trunk. Sleep put venetia Frigging part of a gun sticking out of his forehead. Put them in the passenger seat. I laugh at part. Yeah this entire scene scene. What he's driving to the pit and jackie is now hit. Very strange jackie's now talking to Dwight's dwi courses imagining this in his brain. But jackie is talking to him that this this entire scene was directed by quentin tarantino. He he is labeled as a guest director this war and the fee if the feet yeah. My wife told me about that. And like i didn't know that until she's like i i. I saw it once upon time. Hollywood which is actually excellent. And i'm like jamie. It was a good movie but like what's going on with this and she's like it's a tarantino movie he's in defeat but what think about every tarantino movie made. How many are there all of a sudden all the feet. I mean look hammer right on her tote move. My had no idea until my wife says he's into feet think he's not the best person either but i could be wrong and i don't know i don't know about mr tarantino. He makes good movies. This this is directed by by quin. This is a pretty cool seeing. I like how the colors are constantly changing the all these really cool splashes of blue and green and purple. I think it looks really cool Kind of giving that surreal vibe of this is not really happening is all in his head. The they get pulled over so in order to hide the fact that he has a gun barrel attached in embedded into his brain. Dwight stomps on the brakes and smashes his head into the dashboard. Further embedding said a gun. Barrel into his brain guests. Fine we get to the pits. Clive is almost about dwight ways almost about to get there and then he He gets blew up we shop. We get shop. Yeah because the car runs out of gas so we searched the push up hill. And i got shot in the back and everyone loved to shot in this movie all the time. I don't think everyone loves to get shot. Just getting shot to shoot other people as dago. Join the whole city and then you find out that he was you know turned on him and someone told him to meet them there. And you have these weird mercenaries that last very long because they get killed themselves. Ah i was into all this still miss the point when when rosario dawson We cut back to her real quick when michael clarke duncan Appears out of nowhere again and he. He appears out of nowhere and He's the green mile of literal goldeneye. Yeah that's okay. Yeah golden eye. Okay so i'll tell you hill. He's in goldeneye the movie. No no he's not gonna let me and i didn't know that he's kind of dooney exposition we already know they're gonna come back. And the pinson the mob and everyone's gonna take over old town and we've heard it hurt. It hurt it. I don't know of this is revealed because actually before this What's her The girl the blue eyes blue eyes. Becky thank you becky before. This was on the phone with her mom quote unquote and Evidently she is. She's on the phone with her mom and evidently that was not her mom. She is a stool pigeon. Cause he's afraid. But i don't think we learned that yet. I think that's what's not until they get the captured gail. We see her tied up. Or whatever yep yep shell claim that dwight's dead on but we go back to the pits and that's where you had the mercenaries the irish mercenaries who Three forced them have bad bad. Irish one guys clearly irish. The other one's own. No you certainly are. Not but that's fine talking about how great the americans have it like. You're from this country commentary. Yeah you know but this is the point where you a little bit gunfight which is fun the is a they pull out the badge out of pocket and it looks like a badge saw broken up. See the bullet sick and obvious like wait a second dwight flips over. And that's pretty cool moment. Yeah school yeah. This whole gunfights very cool. You know some diving. Then a grenade gets thrown and clive gets sunk into the pits. I'm every lead character in. This movie gets a chance to narrate his own death scene right every the they all do. He's just let the let let it fill your lungs that take you away and then of course mi-ho pulls out from the sludge and that's it right. I think so. Yeah no no. He wakes up and the mercenaries are cutting the head off of jack equal because they need proof that the got killed in old town by the hookers right right right right right right right. So yeah when he gets pulled out of the of the. It's right after that. Because he sees that and then he sinks down and as they're walking away and they pull them out and then they go after the car right. 'cause they're they're in they're trying to get They'll toro's head off. Jackie boy's head off. I also wanna put no here that the silhouette scenes are really gorgeous. Like all the silhouette scenes when it's just a white on black. I think is really really stunning. Visually and always in the right spot when he's sinking down of the charge. Yeah pretty cool. That's really cool. And then she comes down and grasps hand again that i think is very visually stunning. It's really funny gold night. It kind of looks like a like a james bond opening credits thing. He kind of does. Yeah canada's So we basically now. We have our so. Now we had the fight for jackie's head of this whole scene is weird because The end up in the sewer chasing the main Irish mercenary irish mercenary. The remote bomb renault grenades a clearly. This has got to be a thing later on the movie. 'cause the movie takes some time to say. These grades are self promoted because remote control grenades. His he actually says lines. Like i don't like i'm not gonna an accent. He basically says i. here's a like handguns or revolvers. He likes things that go boom and he shows him all the things that go boom and then the little stick that makes it go boom and then he makes it go boom because obviously this tallahassee very well set up for later on towards e finale of this piece of the film but beheld comes in after irishman done his job. You've done your job for the movie sir. Now you can get dispatched by by meals. All it was. that's it. he's done your job even a famous guy no guy but yeah so then we go back to old town. And that's when you see the gale rose area. Don rose dawson tied up in a chair. Getting beat up by goldeneye. Like when i was watching the gross. Yeah this is when you find out that becky girl from gilmore girls god love using other shows is the trainer and again like i said before she shows up. Show me here. I show me your eyes. That's all i wanted to see. I mean a lot of times. We have to especially the movie like this. There's so many characters. Like you say. Gail i gotta stop thinking. Girl is girls. Gail rosario dawson. But it's easier to keep track of reference. Something else definitely is. When it came to the survey we watch soccer pun. Sunday if we ever. That's wherever that side to one torture ourselves sucker punch. Yeah not not not not because it's it's not awful. I think i think i'm going to watch it at once. It is trash trae. Put it this way with sucker punch. I i was reading reviews at the time and i think my byline. The review of the one of the main lines was sucker. Punches is if you gave thirty eight million dollars to a thirteen year old boy and told them to make a movie. I remember hating that movie so much that i actually was i was living in new york at the time. I walked by subway stations with the poster on it and i wanted to rip it off. I was so mad at us for wasting my time. Yeah i the spy have. It'll be great detained. Listen to me screaming about it for an hour and forty five again. Anything movies for the next time. I get a pack. I get my revenge. It sounds like all right. We're definitely covering sitter alive at some point now. I i need to see katsumi so fair. Funniest part of this entire movie and mike. Why don't you mentioned what was. This is the only part of the movie. Were actually laughed. Where the guy one of the goons is standing there watching reserved dossier beat in that all listening. All our printers jess hey looks dot any goes. Hey talk about how. Everyone should be concerned. There's a harpoon Suggest does seem to be any kind of paints like hey you should i give me a doctor. Thank everyone else has better things to do. It's it's really funny. Yeah it's definitely one of the highlights. A comedic lee of this movie just watching him kind of squirm. That's where watching. Be just bemused by the by by this harpoon. His chest full looney tunes at this point. Oh yeah hey and this. Is the movie telling you guys relaxed. This is all fun. You can have fun with violence. It can be goofy and silly ended up right. You can in context of you can re animator. He's horribly violent. But it's wonderful because it's fun even when it's her readily disgusting and gross in sexist and blah blah blah blah. Yeah wwl's one part where i laugh and then this one when you head with a trade there. They ended up meeting out in the trade. The head of jackie boy for rosie dawson and i. I liked this park. They come they have did. His mouth is all taped and gilmore. Girls like there's something wrong. his mouth is taped. 'cause they're going to kill her to find out even though she helped them out. I guess you her to we. Don't eat her. And i thought that was interesting. How everything she did just wasn't gonna work for her in. The tape is kind of a cool figure out for the audience because like as we mentioned. Jackie boy's been talking to dwight this whole time. Even though he's long dead suicide assumed the he put the tape over his mouth to shut him up your year. Because he's insane and becky points out that there wasn't tape on his mouth before riser. Tape now and michael. Clarke duncan vigors pulls out the detonator. Basically it's a really good again. This is very cathartic. This is the point in the movie. Were caught me. Where i said. Okay where's is. Am i now becoming desensitized right through the violence in this movie and does papering this over with the veil of comic book write a comic book movie this blackened way all the digitisation all abstracting violence for me. Where it's i can watch an alley people alleyway of basically defenseless people. But they have guns but they're they're no match for thirty women with machine guns and rifles and everything else firing at them. And i'm not feeling anything. I am not feeling island. Right volume in with guns dominator outfits and stuff. And i'm just like i'm actually enjoy his charge. I was all. I have a thing for that. If you haven't notice is clearly Listen normally will mention by like for some reason like stuff like that like women in charge like that just especially in that type of situation like i'm one hundred percent on. Well yeah. I one hundred hundred more. There's a one timer. I'm like okay and that's why this kind of goes more. Say more to empowerment right. They have taken control They didn't need they like. Yeah i love that like that that it didn't happen in this movie. Were every it feels like you're in the nineteen twenties and you had women not showing just creatures or slaves but actually in in in charge of. Yeah i liked that absolutely and it was interesting. 'cause i'm thinking like i'm just watching. These people get mowed down. It's good. I'm like a the bad guys are dying. And that's great. But is this again. Is this saturation of violence over the last hour at this point we're about the halfway point. Is this really. Is this kind desensitizing. Me and i i don't know again. I think it might just be. Because i've seen this one hundred times. I've probably seen it. I've seen this film probably thirty times. I own and i have really really into this movie. I haven't seen this movie probably at least ten years. I'll be honest with you on that by definitely have seen it before that time. Yeah probably easy thirty i. It's a visually stunning film. And you know near near late. Mid twenties well she got to do watch city one hundred times in a row up ship so yeah being desensitized to the violent talk about jackie jackie boy's had exploded in like eyeball flies at the camp gas cartoonish. Shit ever allied. It was so bad that you didn't grow out it's like wow that looks really stupid. I really fake ed. Right and again. A lot of these effects. Don't hold up very well but taking in context in the flow of a film. It works fine again. I don't think anyone's to concern on the props department which is again was robert rigas backyard. Yours believe that going in the fridge and grab that watermelon. We're gonna use that as a head coach a shopping list on watermelons maybe three takes. As many as i'm gonna do. I got i got picked up the kids at three so if a three then unlike the idea of this movie a lot more of all this stuff is improvised. This nego- sierra skaggs explode ahead. What can explode. Hose watermelon dress. It up like a i find fixing post. That's it a movie made in post a fixing post. Exactly i mean i like special effects movie but this whole movie i made post felt like basically so. That's basically the end goodbye. We'll see you know this at this point this is the end of this is the end of dwight's yeah which is which the meat. Although it's not the most memorable i people remember to. Mickey rourke stuff much more than they definitely longer section on this one. Yeah no i. I really think this whole this whole thing because again. It's it's actually feels like a movie you know it sets up stakes it. Setting up a drama There's tension there's mickey just run around bashing people's faces in not really do that this this that section feels like a proper movie a movie with beginning a middle of the end payoff and everything kind of pays off to a certain extent but And then the rest of this doesn't feel like moving. This feels like count book stuff. Now we're gonna finish up hard and story. He is alive bafflingly. A senator work sees him in the hospital. We don't really know who he is. I don't even remember who he is. Because i've seen this one hundred times. He's he's touch miffed about his son messing up his son Who's balls. Yeah losing all this stuff and Yeah all that stuff. Basically the idea is not an act that like. I don't know the guy's name but when you see him and you you look up wikipedia because you can't recognize anybody in this fucking movie. He you know him from everything he's been in so many different things he's just one of those actors like ends up all the time in tv. Yeah and this is we can actually kinda just blow through a lot of this because this really is just kind of setting up his final heroic thing. We learned that. Nancy has been running him letters every every week for guy too was that oh who died in okay in two thousand seventeen. Yeah so the plan is the frame of they. Frame him for everything. They're basically trying to get him to confess to all the heinous things that have happened including the death of the poop. This this sequence contains. I will say this is the most disturbing thing for me in the film richly. Which you've okay good. Thank you thought it'd be alone in that The prison beat down when he's getting beaten by that really weird creepy dude. They got the cookery nurse. Who's they're tanning michael. Why why didn't you. What got you on this okay. So it's not the sparked it's later on when he he finally takes care of the yellow bastard. Oh no no no. That's number two. This is number one and the reason this is number one for me is i. Don't like seeing people beaten without any context really or seeing people being without be able to defend themselves by just people. Getting brutalized is really hard to watch me Especially with this scene because again there is all its yet that stark red blood against black and white right which is always jus- gripping and visually unnerving and there's a humiliation there too and the humiliation is the stuff that really really gets me Where he's like see she just turned your head her head away from you. She's disgusted by you all that for no reason right. No it really didn't need to be. There is just snow. Just showing the bruce willis was planning on giving them what they want right. The only the only purpose ahead. Yeah that's the only it's the only reason there's no joy in it like when mickey work getting ill brutalized and beaten and had clubs and bats. He's actually enjoying himself. Right crazy person mike well. My favorite little favorite moments is the key. Pine hannam confessions. He keeps spitting blood on them. And i keep laughing. How many copies. They had you know like that. At least there's a little bit of joy in it just kind of fun even though it's brutal but this is just sad and is this. This was this was more upsetting than than the other thing slightly more. Because that's still a very upsetting an unnecessary but Yeah that's that that that he's really got so we typically find you find out. He's in these jailed for eight years in solitary eight years in solitary. What every we. Every week he gets his he gets his Letter until one day. He don't get them no more and he wakes up and he see we see the yellow man now. I don't think his name is yellow. Man it's like yellow hair bastard bastard. So we see yellow bastard and is visually grotesque this grotesque it is. He is a monster unlike. I've ever seen 'cause he's a the first time you see the color yellow in this movie yes yes to yano. You're right it's and it's visually man. It is visually startling. because it's a it's an abstraction of a person just grotesque dismayed yeah protests. I keep saying the same word over and over again. Because i can't think of anything else. It's it's really unnerving it's unnerving star trek character. Warf worth ya. The general shape of his head cut reminds of that he's warf esca. He's a war like okay. Yeah we see him for the first time Gets punched wakes up to the envelope which has a finger inside was creepy. Which very creepy Which has no real if you look at a finger you can tell you. Oh this seventeen year. Old girl yes. Clearly i'm good at examining cubicles. I understand that that is a line from the movie for those. Yes really finger close to a finger girl detective. He's a detective so let's give him that much. You can pick up a body part and tell me what is from valley than human. no no. He knows it's a finger of a seventeen year old girl because the script themselves You just go told them. So yes exactly. So he that that breaks they realizes nancy's and troubles we just admit to it all to which they just let him go. Yeah i understand that all. We got your compassion all yup get out of here. You're you're good makes no sense. Why do they let them go. What i'm truly asking for for for ab guidance here. Because i can't find any. They got the confession and so they're like all right our son. I don't know why makes no sense to the world so that everyone can knock him and spit on him. I dunno czar demet sense. Of course his partner that shows up at to give him a ride the town. I don't know why i guess. Make that indian another day's worth of days worth of wages. Guess i don't know from another check. Find out his wife's remarriage on their blah blah blah. They have some boring dialogue and then yellow head is right behind and awkward. it's awkward. this is very strange. This is not good so you talk about the part one anti on stage it no nothing. This is with when he goes to the bar he he goes to the club where we're just as you see yellow man sitting there in a chair so he starts to leave just always character season. Which is nancy. Which i didn't want it clicked that like nancy. That's the seventeen year old girl. Who was eleven who now is eighteen or nineteen. She run jumped off the and kisses him on the lips. And i'm just like oh. There's a lot to unpack here. You saved my life. When i was eleven and it gets worse it a little bit but i just like oh this is. This is where the movies go in. And i'm gonna just kind of fast. but then. After he kept her she kisses him. They followed the car he should. He shoots yellow man because they're falling. Try and chase from. I mean part was kinda cool where he lives up his shot guy. He's like this guy has no he can't he has no you just keep shooting. He's a good shot but he doesn't have the time and he shoots like right through the windshield. Take some out. You think he kills them all right. This is kind of cool. And then and they go to get to the show. And i just wrote in my notes awkward. 'cause she starts hitting him she's like. I never loved any other man. I've had a couple of boyfriends. But i wasn't you'd i'm just like why acis in this movie. And then they start kissing like what are you doing even says like i'm old enough to mirror grandfather and this and that's what we're all thinking we're all thinking stop. Oh do this. It is weird. It's not it's so out of place. I my cynical brain was like. I think the reason this exists is because when bruce willis signed up to be on. This movie saw the jessica alba. He's playing the league saves he wrote his contract to is just too funny. Then you got me. Got me for seven days. No this makes no sense. It's the energy of this of him wanting to save. Nancy is like even says it in the car Kinda like the you know i. He never had a daughter you know. He always wanted a daughter. His wife will make a good mom right so. This is a fatherly thing right. He has a fatherly affection for this girl kissing her. Well yeah well right frighten. You should stand up sir. Your legs work. Just run away. Just keep running around. It's a giant motel room. Senselessly big why with one couch potato. Just go round circles. Just run yeah. They're playing a stupid cartoon music okay with it. So his motivation is clear like he does not want to share. Motivation is why. I don't know. I guess she's now in love with him but again. It's like a fatherly thing. It is so strange. Adult field doesn't make sense. It doesn't roller uncomfortable. And not in a fun way right. Is there a fun way. Not said i know. But i say not when you're dealing with a girl who was supposed to be eleven when she got rescued by a cop and now she's trying to make out with them. It's eight years later. No there's nothing. Yeah and other things. Yes and the movie of course makes a hundred different attempts to make sure you are aware yes. She's of age. She's nineteen nineteen suggest. That was fun. But i do not want to say what's in my head. At the moment. I can think really bad moment. It's it's it just sets up a yellow face coming back and punching a cold shower because he's horny and i'm just like oh yeah exactly it's it's just alba but still like that's just yeah all of its very uncomfortable in weird and again in an age without context way i mean an after he gets part of the shower and you have hanging as i wrote my no tang in naked bruce hanging bruce i mean you you see alba's which i mean there's a lot of newness movie but i can. You can see that either elba said. Nah i ain't doing it because she's actually wearing clothes in the scene where she he something into her. You know pat maker pass. Ought or whatever the hell you doing. Bruce supposed to be hanging by his neck naked with the hand side on a little table. That's wobbling. you can me. They skip his junk thankfully. Just weird ass part. Yeah because just hours. Carter says it's a stripper and according to be. She didn't realize how racy her character was in the comic. Oh and the script originally had her doing nude scenes and she absolutely refused. Oh that makes sense. Yeah i mean to. Yeah yeah. I woke the don't everyone has their boundaries. If you need to see that there are places that can take care of that. I don't need to see it in my blockbuster movie yeah i mean. It's yeah but when you're thirteen thirteen okay. You need your blockbuster movie but a like no. I'm good. I got good or michael or michael bay like all right so so we we are in the in the news yellow faces basically you on the phone and say hey party around a great time the he he says they all scream a thousand times the thousand time. He says that they all scream. Kicks out the table. And that's when hannigan gets hung or does he know he just tightens his neck and grabs. That's how that works. Yeah titans his neck. Because that's how you save yourself from from strangulation. He swings breaks a plane of glass. Snags a piece of glass with his foot somehow breaks his bonds and gets it up six feet to his neck where the rope is and the two guys we haven't mentioned yet. The one who's very wordy and very articulate thug the articulate thugs very very funny. I had a good laugh. H their only onscreen twice had a good laugh. They are quickly dispatched by mr hannigan talk about cars. Yeah talking about had the whole quote. I would i would do. It's very funny but it's it's a very good See i like those guys again. Breaks up the tension some good comedic beat and again ball delivered goes to the farm. He approaches his bumper ticker. I thought this was fixed. Call a heart problems or your seven six zero six five year old man stalking a strange yellow face kill. This is also when you see. Elijah woods character sitting there too yeah and the also a lot of parallels between marvin him now. I don't know if that was intentional. Again this is all coming from the book of the out the comic book but again you're he's saying things like no needs to go quiet now. Let's you know he's actually mentioned being nasty again. Like how are these these. Frank miller beets are repeated here. So there's kind of like a correlation between marv and and hannigan because they are both trying to rescue someone again. This kind of like extreme masculinity is happening Were saved the girl very similar. Motivations actually is different motivations but it's a c- kind of this book and this book and is now setting itself up. We have a very uncomfortable scene. Where we're where work is is within Jessica alba again. Just not you. Don't see anything. Thank god. that's the last thing you need to see what we actually going to see the last thing. We need to see the last thing we need to see. We're going to see where we need the end this movie. That's where i was when i was watching this part. I was just trying to finish this movie. And i was just doing a lot of shopping to your house and stuff i can imagine. Do you like walmart. And lowe's like you're tired of all parts off by the way. So i can see like with a shopping cart kind of looking at your phone. Just continue to as you're putting your house together. New wife's like what do you think about these curtains. I don't really think they go with the pain. But yeah i think they might the patterns and you're like looking watching my walking through gotta finish this movie. I'm like we're going to record our. I've got to get this over with security risk free. I'm like on my volume was not on for this right so nancy refuses to screen because he knows that's how that's what gets going. That's what gets them off as screaming part like that part after she can't she kind of gets rescue or she makes a comment. I guess he what he said was right. You can't get off. don't scream. i did like that like i. I like her even though she's in a very terrible situation. Kinda take charge and not be. That was cool like that. That that i did like. Yeah because bruce was tells her before not scream no matter matter. What don't scream. So then hogging approaches gets catches yellow face in the tummy with his with knife figure. Yeah i guess. They don't the the parallel lines of looking that. You can't even lift cannon guy like you did the beginning of the actually can't this time right. It's there then then Then finally we get the khuda. Which i'll let you michael describe this This is the worst part of the entire movie it's removes. His web is payroll exact parallel line. Where he says the beginning where works down he's like check out his weapon and knocks guy away and he says both of them and then the beginnings where he shoots the crowds this one. He grabs a fistful of junk in tears. It off yeah. It discusses during rubbery plastic looking like. It's clearly very very foresight. It's still super gross. Yeah it's it's it stretches like kathy and like snaps back like a balloon breaking so. This is the i've talked a bit about lines right. There's lines in life and in movies this. What crosses it this is. This is a line stepper. This is stepped over the line This is so unnecessary. This is not fun. it's it's brutal in a way that is that can't be earned. I don't think you can earn this kind of retali- and it's just unsettling and gross for the sake of being gross. I don't think i even liked it as like a twenty five year old. Who is the sort of thing. This is just unnecessary and it is. It is highly disturbing even more disturbing is when he punches. The man's face into literal goop. You don't see it but you see him on top of Works body and there is nothing that he thought that line said after a while it was just punching like bone chips into the into the floorboards. Or something yeah again. Extremely unsettling and gross I guess that's kind of what they were going for. This is a gross out moment. But i think the context of it i try to think of other gross-out moments in other movies that that are actually work right again. Like animator. reanimator has the as the famous city. I've ever seen reanimator doubt. No okay so really matters is. I'm not gonna but has one particular scene towards the end that is so patently offensive and gross and a out outside the bounds of what's okay right but for some reason it still fine because in the context of the movie. It's there it is. Yeah you just sent us a picture. Reanimator not opening up a picture of the cover art of the poster every animator. I'll say let's just say it's the the this is as the doctors head with the lady on the table. Okay everyone if you re animator. You're talking about discussing. Should not happen ever in movies but for some reason the context of that movie. It's fine and i cringe. I say that. Because i don't want to say it's fine but it's fine enough because again. That's what you're in this the movie or end. This is the kind of the world's iran a lot has happened to lead up to that and this movie is earned a lot of goodwill cincinnati has not earned enough goodwill to rip off someone's genitalia taffy pulling style fashion and then beat the man's head into literal paint. That is has not done that. And there's no reason for it except for just pure brutality and to be gross and yes. It could be reflection of the book. If that's what the book says the conflict says it's looking at the book. Because i just couldn't i didn't care anymore. I pretty sure is probably right from the book everything. Here's right from the book but that doesn't matter. That doesn't excuse mr rodriguez from doing that. It doesn't excuse. Frank miller's certainly from writing that you're allowed to make the art you wanna make i'm never gonna say you shouldn't but that is certainly not for me and i just don't think that was again earned because it is horrendously unsettling and i've seen worse than movies but yeah and the white house privacy a little worse than that. But so that's see. Oh my mic comments on it or don't do like it. Don't use it a lot. I'm sorry i feel like. I've served eight percent of this this show. Sorry for is that you should just this movie for talking. Sorry for everything. Have not sorry for that. Because i did this on purpose so i will wrap up with that but anyways finally the last bit of this movie is it takes nancy to fancy car. He lies to her and says that you know he's gonna go after work and set the record straight and clear name and she goes. Okay drives off leaving a bear with with no method of conveyance like what was going to take the bus now like after all this happened and then he realizes he knows that she's never going to be safe while he's alive. And the only way to defeat work is to shoot himself. So he does in that beautiful White silhouette on background way blam and we get to our altro which we get to. I would think that the final the final growth for for hannigan cheered. The movie was almost over honestly. It was kind of like. Wouldn't they kill her anyway because she was involved in the murder of his sons. I fish real. She would still be at target if he had just gotten out of jail and his and none of the had happened. But it's like you just you just shot ripped off his sons sons dick like you're not it's not going to pick on. Where just you let her go. No you're gonna kill her to even says the they're just gonna find her again like we assume she goes back to work right right. Yeah we we still has she still employed so yeah. Things are probably going to end well for her either but that's his movie which will never watch the show. She isn't a second movie. Mickey rourke he's in that's okay. i think. I don't remember where the second one to find out down bother. I would never make you guys watch that that. The second one is horrendous. I would show up for it but somebody else would be like yes. Mickey mickey rourke just gaba and rosario dawson are all in the second. One and bruce willis what what do you shoot yourself in the head and come back. I don't know she again. You pansies so often could get to watch it but watch fear with Carl johanneson. I'll be good all right so anyway so we have that scene. I think it's i mean. Yeah like you guys said it. I don't think it's gonna save the day or anything but it does prove make for a really Evocative seen of him getting shot in the head shooting himself in again that beautiful stark white on black background. Way altro becky's in the hospital. Her arm was broken member. it was. She papered over for dawson. I think the doesn't break are oh and she ripped her ripped through out which was fun little moment. I remember that. Oh yeah. That's when they find when we're rosario dawson finds out that becky is kind of sold them out. Because becky the cops are gonna come back. We have to just make a deal. She gets close in with their teeth rips her eerie out the very not pleasant way. As if there's a pleasant way to rip someone's thought her neck or something. I didn't realize it was earing. It looks like your neck right but now it's it's earing shas long dangling earrings so big hospitals. She's talking to her mom. She goes to into the elevator and it book ends with the hitman. Just heartland hartnett. Josh hartnett behind her calls her by name. And i think she knows immediately. What's going to happen. And then that's the end of it. That's our troops credits that sweet weights it two thousand five. You're not happy to see credits. Oh man probably. I don't think this is the worst movie i've ever seen. And so if not. I mean i've seen worst movies too. There's no the movie. I've hated most scene. I guess is a better way to put it. It's you know. I can't say that the worst movie i hated the most seen for this. Podcast i watch double dragon a few other things. Oh god no. I want to star star wars holiday special godawful. Yes it is so. I can't say i don't know for sure i'm not really looking at my list. I have a list but we'll get there. Yeah but it ended. I was just happy over that. That's what i want to say. I was but i. The book thing was weird. Because i just didn't even understand the point of why josh earnest care. Because i did like the fact. He's like do you want to go. Becky has smoke. And she's like she realizes immediately what's going on what's happening. And she just tells her mom. I love you bye and hangs up the phone and the movie ends. I mean that was kind of all right. Should we go to show for box. Let's all right. We'll we'll save. We'll go with the most positive. I mike you hated this movie. I hated every minute of this movie. Lied built knew exactly like you said he knew what he was doing. He knows my sensibilities. And how this ticks off every box of everything. I hate like felt like an hour passing. I check the netflix queue. It's like fifteen minutes. Since the last time i checked like. Oh my god this mui ever end just went on forever This is going in a box wrapped in chains and thrown into a lake. North carpets or carpets. Even better and know me ho to save you really wanna see host country. We know we're going to you. But i need to see that movie now. So that's going to happen at some point. We'll we'll see all right. I'll go next. This is a hard one for me. This is going into the box. I didn't hate it. i enjoy parts of it. I the marv stuff is fine. The clive owen stuff. I enjoy because. I have a thing for apparently women in scantly clad with leather so i enjoyed that but when it came to late. Just the stuff with bruce willis in the movie overall. I wasn't really. It wasn't my thing why i will never watch the end of my glad. I watch it kinder because now you're saying i watched since i've seen that movie i record and and then i will plug this podcast and that i'm good. I will never watch again. I never need to is going into the box. Can stay in the damn box bill. Ready for a shocker. This is going to go in a box to box. Yeah i don't need to see this again in. And as we as i've done the show with you guys i i kind of redefined what Michael does on what goes on the shelf. Right shelf is really for. Maybe a tier films. This is the movie for me. seeing with you know forty year old is i have a lot of again kind of like. I don't know if you've done blade yet. But kind of like glade. Where i have a lot of affection for it and on this i think. This movie is visually stunning. We didn't talk a ton about the visuals because it kind of gets it gets masked by a lot of the violence and the poor performances and such. This is not a movie. I need to really see again But i do respect it for what it did. I respect the energy of it. I respect how much it serves a source material and basically is the source material. It's just the source material. That's what it is. There are some of the violence. I think a lot of violence is fun and in character in context a good amount it is an just gross from gro- gross for the sake of being gross and i liked this movie i still liked it and i still had a decent time with it but it was one of those or mike. I can now put this. Put this deluxe box set of mine. That i bought and twenty two thousand six and put into a box because i can wait another ten years before i see it and not have a problem and be. I don't want my kids to find it and like take out the comic book that comes with it with all the nudity and silence four. Hey dad what's this and like. This is going in a box so a box. That's easily accessible. If i feel like maybe fifty of feeling the style gic just toss it in again for one more spin around the world of sin city. You know. I didn't expect all three of us the box this did you think i was going to put it on the shelf. I mean d- again. I've changed my a lot of my ideas of what would go on. A shelf has changed the course of that. So yeah no giving my now. This can go on a box. And actually i literally might put this in a box again for the reasons that i've stated i will literally delete it off. My netflix. never had to look at it again. I want to say what they really quickly. I apologize i don. I wasn't trolling. I really wasn't strolling guys. I thought it would make for an interesting discussion because this is an extremely unique movie like. Yeah no one's ever seen anything like this before and yes probably never should see again but like it's it is a unique movie with a very beautiful visual style. I know you guys don't like violence. So i did choose this intentionally to just push you a little bit. I aside your comfort zone but my intention was not to troll you. I wasn't trying to guys or aether like that. It's not it's not really a bad movie is just not are kind of movie. I think what it and it is also a more like if you're really in the movies like this is the art of a movie is probably really impressive. The people like that like you want the land for example like that. It's such a movie movie that you can just go over piece by piece. Which would he some point and i. It's just like you know that's kind of how i felt this. When we something that was more of just like a spectacle and ride just want dumb action. Why superheroes killing you fighting. that's fair. yeah and again. This is yeah. This is artful violence. Artful artful camp. You know which way of saying it. So now i get. I just wanted to publicly apologize. If i ruined anyone's evening slash day slash trip to k. mart. I didn't want to somebody's day but he's under so that's all right. I did definitely does have the style. I said that right of the top that the way that only certain colors pop out of the black and white is really cool. I think i was being nice. I said during this episode. I was that was it and if we keep talking. I'll just convince you like it. So we'll just taller dude. I know i'm all good all good. I think it made for an interesting discussion if nothing else sure did i think we should go to her wrapping up this episode. And if i can remember all this so if you enjoy what we do we do a bunch of other movies. We do the mcu and at the time if we already covered phase one and phase two. Certainly those out. 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Patreon Bonus: The Wrestler (2008)

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27:54 min | 1 year ago

Patreon Bonus: The Wrestler (2008)

"Hey everybody I'm Max. Parallel host of classic movie must, and we're coming at you on Tuesday, which can only mean one thing. Here's another episode of double feature from Patriot. Library, in case, you didn't know classic movie must double feature is a weekly podcast. That's exclusive unpatriotic for one dollar per month. It's the same structure as our normal show, but for more recent movies that I believe are destined to be thought of as classics. This episode of double feature is on Darren. Our NAS. Ke's the wrestler from two thousand and eight. In fact, this was released as the middle episode in a three episode series on the films of. Of Darren Sqi so for just one dollar on Patriot. You can get our other aaronow episodes on requiem for a dream and Black Swan, as well as dozens of episodes from our back catalogue. I think that's a pretty good deal. 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We continue our talk of Darren Aronovski and his films with the wrestler. In this week's episode in our feature presentation, we will continue to break down there in our in Oskoui's directorial style in this film, and in our buzz from the back lot segment, we'll talk about commitment to realism but first. Let's get into this week's opening credits. Are Film this week. Is the wrestler which was directed by Darren, are Noffke and was released in two thousand and eight. The Wrestler Stars Mickey Rourke and Marisa Tomei Robin Rams, inskeep better known by his ring name as Randy, the Ram. Robinson is a professional wrestler who became a celebrity in the nineteen eighties now past his prime randy wrestles on weekends for independent promotions in New Jersey or working part time at a supermarket under Wayne a demeaning manager who mocks Randy's wrestling background as a regular at a strip club, randy befriends stripper named cassidy who is older than those usually in her profession after winning local match, Randy, agrees to. To a proposed twentieth anniversary rematch with his most notable opponent, the ayatollah, which would bring him back to start them. Randy intensifies training which includes a steroid injections after wrestling hardcore match, randy suffers a heart attack backstage and undergoes coronary artery bypass surgery. His doctor tells him that he nearly died and has to stop the steroids feeling that he is unable to wrestle in his present condition. Randy decides to retire and begins working out fulltime shift at the supermarket. Deli. Counter at cassidy suggestion, Randy visits his estranged. Estranged daughter Stephanie whom he had abandoned when she was a child, but she rebuffs him well. Helping Randy by a gift for Stephanie Cassidy reveals that she has a son. Randy makes a romantic advanced towards her, which she rejects on the grounds of her job later, Randy gives the gift to his daughter and apologizes for abandoning her the to bond over a visit to a beachfront boardwalk where he took her as a child, and they agree to meet for dinner on the coming Saturday. Randy goes to cassidy strip. Strip club to thank her, but she wants more rejects him resulting in a heated exchange, upset randy goes to see a wrestling match and finds solace in his wrestling friends while at a bar with them, he gets drunk snorts. Cocaine has sex with a woman in the women's restroom then wakes up in her bedroom. The next morning exhausted. He sleeps the entire next day and misses his dinner with Stephanie. He goes to her house to apologize, but she angrily tells him. She never wants to see him again. At the Deli counter, a patron recognizes Randy as the wrestler though he denies it, the customer persists which Agitates Randy, who then cuts his hand on the slicer, and goes into a rampage in the store, hurling abuse at Wayne and the customers spurred by the fans recognition of him, and with nothing left Randy decides to return to wrestling and reschedules their match with the idea tola. He reconciles with cassidy though she begs him not to wrestle because of his heart condition, however, Randy disregards her advice, and explains to her that he belongs in the ring with his fans and fellow wrestlers, who, unlike the rest of society, love and respect him as he wrestles, Randy begins to feel chest pain and becomes unsteady. Notices this and urges him to initiate the PIN. Randy refuses however and climbs to the top rope for his signature finishing move. A diving headbutt called the Ram Jam. He looks over and sees. Cassidy has left with tears in his eyes. He salutes his beloved fans one last time and leaps from the top rope. The rest of the had a budget of six million dollars, and it brought in almost forty five million at the box office. The wrestler was nominated for two Academy Awards best supporting actress for Marisa Tomei and Best Actor for Mickey Rourke now. Are you ready to rumble because it's time for our feature presentation? The wrestler opens with a black screen on top of this. The comic strip like opening credits unfold over the noise of a cheering audience and quiet riot, and eighty s heavy metal band, revving up the camera glides over numerous professional wrestling posters and tabloid clippings, all about Randy, the rams, fights, showing sensational slogans and Photos, Depicting oiled naked torsos, and faces grimacing with triumph and pain. The aesthetics of this opening sequence are heavily saturated with Testosterone Laden masculinity referring to A. A world in which values related to emotional toughness, endurance of pain, brazenness, casual sex, and pumped up muscles, rule over an interpersonal relationships and familial responsibilities. The image fades into black and on the audio track. A sound of someone coughing can be heard before the next shot appears a contrasting seen twenty years after Randy, the rams days of glory he is shown sitting in a space that appears to be an elementary school classroom in some suburb, waiting for his fight to. To begin the setting of the fight is both geographically and symbolically far removed from the Madison Square Garden in New York City, where Randy's famous victory over the ayatollah took place. It is interesting to notice how the film introduces its main character. Randy is first shown in a static long shot filmed at a low angle and a three quarter rear view, sitting as far as possible from the camera in the following shots and camera. Follow him closely either from a full. Full Rear Three quarter rear angle then stops and lets him move out of sight. This recurring technique has a symbolic function. It operates by inviting spectators to put themselves in the characters place on the one hand and blocking access to the character on the other. This strategy epitomizes Randy's isolation from any social contact including the spectator, but it has another more tactical function as well which is to avoid showing the characters face. At first. The film refuses to show us. US Randy's face, either through a badly chosen camera angle, or through a lack of light in the image, it is only at the seven minute mark of the film that we get a full clearview Randy's face as he rushes out of the back of his van where he was forced to sleep after having been locked out of his trailer by his landlord, he then pretends to attack a group of noisy trailer park. Kids outside is van as if he were some. Some kind of monster returning to the alien setting of the classroom, randy is shot from a low angle with his back to the camera, and his head buried in his arms while we hear him. Sigh, deeply as he heads home later on. There's only a heavy metal song on his car radio to remind him of his past fame, heavy metal rock from the Eighties Diabetic and non digest isn't important. Auditory motif throughout the film often referred to as Glam, metal the. The music genre is characterized by a tough, thick, loud, massive sound and extended Guitar Solos and generally associated with aggression and virile masculinity. The music is combined with a theatrical style performance, long hair and heavy makeup, as well as gaudy accessories and flamboyant clothing, made of materials like tight, colorful SPANDEX, these software features, which whether intentional or not are often associated with at camp attitude, and in this case they are associated with the world of professional wrestling as well in the. The film, the wrestler, the juxtaposition of toughness softness becomes a constant struggle in which the one always cancels out the other it could be said that Randy lives in two separate worlds that can never meet in the world of Wrestling Randy still enjoys the admiration of his peers, his loyal, middle aged fans and young boys, while in the world outside the wrestling ring, he is financially broke and forced to tolerate constant humiliation from his boss at his low paid job. In front of the audience, his muscular body can still take every blow, but offstage. He has to submit to its vulnerability, as is evident in the backstage scenes of the medics who stitch him up outside the wrestling scene. He is very lonely and can only encounter his love interest cassidy at a strip club. Where female desire is typically. Mel Sexual Pleasure instead of by its own standards. This becomes clear the scene in which a young club patron. You'll the aging stripper declaring cassidy, too old and sexually unappealing to perform. At first randy displays to cassidy his wrestling scars as badges of honor, but later in the film, the scar resulting from his heart surgery testifies to his mortality, his body can no longer manage the demands of professional wrestling and requires maintenance by means of a substantial amount of drugs, including painkillers and steroids. The heart surgery scar is not one of which randy is proud. It is rather a source of shame that randy can only overcome by means of self, delusion and bad faith, this position of pride and shame toughness, and softness evokes negative emotion by means of painfully direct cinematic features, the most painful sequence by any standard. Standard and the wrestler is the agonizingly long fight scene with Nacro Butcher. This sequence is approximately seven minutes long, but it feels endless as it is saturated with relentless negative emotion throughout just like the ending of requiem for a dream, the neck rob butcher seen in the wrestler evokes discomfort, which is a consequence of this spectators inability to stop watching an unpleasant painful scene, the narrative structure of the sequences, rather complex, consisting of three tempera layers before during, and after the fight it starts with a flashback of Randy and the butcher, discussing the most efficient and spectacular ways of inflicting pain after this narration leaps to the end. End of the fight showing the butchart lying on the floor with bloody incisions, all over his body, caused by broken glass and barbed wire, his toothless mouth is twisted in a hideous scowl. All the crowd is chanting. You're so dead. He gets up with much difficulty only to get a window panes smashed on his head, after which randy floors him violently with his knee, then we follow the exhausted randy backstage, and we noticed that his body too is covered with wounds, staples and broken glass, as the camera lingers over the bloody mess. A flashback brings us back to the beginning of the fight which had started out with. With Randy and the butcher slapping each other's faces. The shot. Reverse shot of this scene sees to it that we feel as if we were on the receiving end of the blows until but butcher ends the slapping by spraying insecticide on both Randy's and his own face, the sequence thing continues with butcher using a staple gun randy as well as on himself, fascinating, a dollar bill to his brow, and digging, a deep wound in randy's forehead with a fork, the shots alternate with shots from after the match, in which the medics are removing the staples and trying to patch up the contestants. All this is filled with agonizing. In close ups that bring the I wear, it would not normally look the close up, thus creates uncanny intimacies, and shows us the body as we rarely dare, look at it as an organic mass bearing the marks of decomposition that is barely visible to the naked eye. The close up is intensifying agent because of its size alone. This magnification acts on one's feelings more to transform than to confirm them, but. But, close up modifies the drama by impact of proximity, pain is within reach as an emotional indicator. The close up has the power to overwhelm the audience. The close ups in the wrestler induced pain directly by lingering over sharp items that are shown I as they penetrate the skin, and afterwards as they are being removed, the close ups magnified the bruises, thus drawing the non dietetic audience's attention to the. The vulnerability of the body, which is not witnessed by the digest audience. In addition we can hear the pain Moans, groans, grunts, Gurgles, and whinges in an oral close up that speak bodily vulnerability, while these sounds are apparently inaudible to the crowd cheering and booing in the background finally the Nacro Butcher sequence denies the spectator any sense of Catharsis or relief as ends with randy throwing up in a corner backstage. Backstage and then collapsing on the floor while a sharp chirping sound indicates his heart failure often catharsis works by configuring violence and pain in the service of enjoyment like requiem for a dream, the wrestler is explicitly Anti Cathartic offering, no narrative, satisfaction or purifying release of tension for the spectator. One reason for that is that the wrestler does not function effectively through empathy, which is an essential element of Catharsis. In the experience of Catharsis, this spectators are invited to empathize with the suffering of a tragic hero, well identifying with the truth of the drama. In contrast the wrestler regularly evokes pity for its main character, but since pity is associated with superiority, it is by definition, not an empathetic reaction. Pity always involves looking down upon the pitied, even when one is feeling genuinely sad about the others misfortune, this anti Cathartic operative logic in the wrestler potentially invites the spectator to reflect on the very conditions of viewing the film after Randy. Randy has heart bypass surgery. There is an immense contrast between his past athletic image as a professional wrestler, leaping off the top rope and his current reality as a wrecked aging, frail man, wearing a hospital gown, which embarrassingly reveals his, but as he is struggling to get out of bed at first, Randy seemingly tries to come to terms with the certainty of his bodily deterioration. Wrestling and accepts a daily job at the Deli counter of the local discount supermarket. On his first day he is shot in medium close up in the mirror of an unkempt toilet, trying on hygiene cap over his bleached curls as he walks through the service corridors, the camera follows him closely in one long take a generic technique unmistakably associated with fighting films. Perhaps the most famous scene of this kind can be found in Martin Scorsese's raging bull, in which the camera follows Jake Lamotta through the bowels of a sports arena up into the glaring spotlights of the boxing ring. This association is emphasized by the non diabetic cheering of an imaginary audience that gradually. Gradually becomes more audible only to stop abruptly with a Hollow Pitch Win Randy enters the new stage. An elliptical sequence follows showing randy, wrapping up cold cuts, dealing with customers, oiling the grill and learning to use the pressure cooker. Then suddenly he acquires a taste for customer service. His bodily language loosens up. He starts flirting with his female customers and bonding with the male ones in other words he performs for a moment. Randy belongs to the world only to be rejected again shortly afterwards he performs duties with apparent satisfaction. Until one day a customer recognizes him after which he deliberately thrusts his hand into a cold cuts machine, bleeding all over the place. Again. The violence of the moment is emphasized by close up of the wound by the suddenness of Randy's gesture, and by the shaky hand held camera that follows randy, as he rages his way out of the store. All the framing fiercely alternates between frontal and Rear Angle. This too, is a painful seen, not only because it renders randy's pain tangible for the spectator. The scene also marks a defining moment of bad faith that will lead to Randy's definitive self-destruction instead of to. To any kind of responsible self determination, he returns to negotiating about the wrestling match with the ayatollah, and is shown preparing for the match in a montage sequence accompanied by loud heavy metal music. This is a scene that does not inspire admiration, as might be said for similarly structured scenes, depicting anti-heroes, preparing to face inescapable dangers, instead it evokes pain due to the inevitability inherent in the scene, which is saturated by lack of hope that a happy ending might still be possible. In contrast to earlier wrestling scenes in the film during the last fight, pain is not clearly visible on the bodies. There is no show of blood for instance, even though when occasionally recognizes pain in Randy's facial expressions, one is invited to imagine pain from the inside as evoked by the sounds that accompany the scene. There is the sound of Randy's heavy breathing, but it is also the piercing electric sound that comes. Comes and goes. Particularly embodies Randy's painful sensation that he's heart's electrical circuitry is about to fail. The film ends with Randy leaping off the rings top rope for the last time accompanied by the accelerating ethereal score that is in delicate contrast to the harshness of the setting. The music stops abruptly, and the final shot is to black, denoting the lethal stroke for Randy's heart. The wrestler can be seen as an example. Example of cinema of relapse, and its avoidance of Catharsis changes the spectators relationship with the film. The lack of ethical struggle in the wrestler does not mean that the film itself is not ethical. However, its ethical dimension is found in the way in which the film positions the spectator as an accomplice in Randy's objectification, the wrestlers corporeal aesthetics directly induce pain in the spectator. The pain functions to draw spectators attention to. To the difference between the non diabetic and the diabetic audience, the dietetic audience, the audience in the film's story world is the audience demanding pain. It is this audience that Randy addresses, and for which he performs by contrast that non diabetic audience, the spectators of the movie are invited to observe Randy's pain very closely, but without ever getting really close to the character, it is the contradictory dynamics between diabetic and non. Audience that draws one's attention to the discrepancy between specter to`real and performance of pain with important consequences as such the film functions as a violent fought provocation, pushing the limits of our viewing position, so that we become positionally conscious of our own responsibility as spectators of pain, the film achieves this by staging a drama of the flesh. In this course of action, the spectator is treated as an accomplice instead of a mere witness and. And the ethical challenge offered by the wrestler seems to acknowledge this. In other words, this spectators are not allowed to forget the conditions under which the objectification of another person takes place, including their own role as witnesses in the process, the film confronts spectators with painful imagery, forcing them to acknowledge the pain of another, while simultaneously exposing them to the impossibility of such acknowledgment, the wrestler demands spectacle engagement all simultaneously complicating it the. Royal engagement has to do with the juxtaposition of distance and proximity in the wrestler flesh opens and bleeds sense of proximity while the victim is objectified, which requires distance. In this way, the film forces it spectators to look into a mirror, thus presenting them with an image of a crowd, cheering at the site of pain, objectification in the name of entertainment, while compelling them to acknowledge the correspondence between that very diabetic and non digest audience. Now it's time for our buzz from the back lot segment, and let's get into some intense realism Mickey rourke actually cuts his own forehead with a razor in this film to add to the realism of the role, this is known by the wrestling term as getting color or juicing. Due to the film's a modest budget, axl rose donated use of guns and roses, sweet child of mine, free of charge for the final match and Darren are now skeet revealed that Mickey Rourke was his first choice to play randy the Ram Robinson, but the studio wanted Nicholas Cage or ski fought to have Roque as the Ram, and obviously he won out. The first scene of Randy working at the Deli counter was improvised when real customers kept walking up to the counter during filming. Darren aren't Oscar. Told Mickey Rourke to take their orders. All the cameras would continue rolling also improvised were all the backstage locker room scenes. The old wrestling photos of the ram in his heyday are actually doctored photos of former wrestler lex. Luger and finally although Darren Arnav Ski Wanted Mickey. Rourke for the lead role. Rourke was initially hesitant to be in the film because he wasn't a fan of the script, nor was he a fan of wrestling however after. Let rock rewrite much of his dialogue. rourke agreed to be in the film. That concludes our episode on the Wrestler. I'd love to hear what you think of. This classic must feel free to Tweet at me at movie pod. Email me. A classic movie must said Gee Dot Com or the Patriots on. Thank you to our patriot, producers eleanor be mcenery Pedro Araya, D. and Jonathan. 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Ep. 16: "Double the Trouble" (Real Chance of Love Season 1)

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Ep. 16: "Double the Trouble" (Real Chance of Love Season 1)

"Trish! Trash. To the travelers. You just WANNA. Listen twos and trash. Just go ahead now when I know name he's. Seeing this song, so I'm going to go. Yeah Dude. Good. Sucking do. Realize life. I swear my life I'm Sarah Jan Brutal? They say skimming. About. Sarah Jeopardise both apart spell it scooby dooby SC. Be. I, WANNA say to ask Ko. Dad hated even more. Years Anyway Hey welcome to the. That is an argument or another time. Could, be a minute. No, it could be. No, it could be a minute and forty five seconds shorter. That is my final judge along this. How long the song? The song is like four minutes and thirty seconds or something four minutes in thirty seconds. I think it could be three minutes. However many adds up to like thirty seconds long. I think it'd be thirty seconds long I. Don't think it should be that long at all. Yes thirty seconds thirty seconds up. If you will sound to something, Babe is enough flex thirty seconds is a lot and if you don't sound something some. Rules, you don't smoke enough weed to love that song. Yes I I guess I've never smoked the amount of weed that got me to that point where I just put on one of those fuzzy hats, the ball on top and like the string. You've never smoked enough weed to become proficient at Hacky sack, and I feel sorry for you, brother Yeah always suck the Hacky sack, and I've always been proud of that anyway. Zach every. How are you doing this week? Are you doing okay your fingers doing? The scabs on my fingers fell off, so we're doing great there in the scarring process. That sounds like a good song. This cavs think allow. From playing, Megaton too hard I don't know. What we gotTA REMEMBER THAT FOR Maybe a! there. My fingerprint is fucked though dude, I feel like they should have done a lot more left-handed crimes before. Yeah, maybe now it's like unrecognizable. Should say this at all. This is a comedy podcast, but maybe you should shot the president with your left hand, you know. Quite interesting harmony. PODCAST! It was a comedy segment we have. Like, what do you think's GonNa to happen from that? The SWAT team six nine front door. Because on Thanksgiving Day listening to the past, and they were like hey. have. You Ever WanNa see your category. Take back what you said and I'm like not W. Then I renounced what I said, and then they take our cat anyways like. Secret services like Oh man. You know I listened to the trash podcast. fucking week and this week. They said they were going to kill the president. Say again. Sorry, it's the way I can't say the words I thought it was only if you're on the phone I thought that's what how it works. If. You want to kill her. Doing didn't you get kicked off twitter for something like that or anyway? We'll have to talk about that Questionable. Allegedly Julie I've been on this week I've been. Drinking a little bit less less hard alcohol focused more on weed and trying to drink truly instead of beer. I am not sponsored by truly, but hey truly if anyone works truly and you're listening to this. I fully endorse you and if you want to pay us for that, that's that's cool. Is there spotlight. Yeah, he's response right now. So why don't you got? US This if you sponsor us, we'll drink truly on every fucking episode of the lemonade ones. Oh. My God Rene Truly is why and this has been an ad for truly. Truly truly. Truly have like an affiliate. Okay, cool! Yeah, so yeah, that's. Truly and truly We want to be your last podcast on the left bank, hills like drilling. And I'm like I love you been kissel. Also this week. We got a lot of things going on with the trash. We got some new merch that we're working on. We got a new shirt design. We're kind of testing right now. If everything works out great then we'll have a shirt for sale. T shirt pretty core shirt, cute, Asher cutest fuck. Yes, it's made. It was made by a friend of mine. shutout Clyde Balut. Handles, but if you know him, yeah shadow to him. I said if you would like. Back to that song, it's not that great. Anyway. We also gossip new Patriot fan subscribers or patrons this week. Also so let's give it up for that. JOVE! In addition to the three patriots subscribers got this week. We also had a donation from someone. In exchange for a trashy song, so we're going to be doing four trashy songs this episode. That's one two three four trashy song. You've safe. In your fucking face and we're going to back to back and we're just GONNA. Want to get into that or anything else I. Want To say before we get to that okay. So all right. Our first new patriots subscriber that we got is a friend of ours. You may actually have heard her voice before on another PA I can't talk on another podcast called paranormal. It up for Robin Work. She donated. I think she donated as trashing trashing the five dollar to your whatever who cares anyway. She gave us money and we're GONNA do a song for her. Now we asked through. What Genre Asong Song. She wanted it and she said trash choice. Click on a choose, so we chose for her based on who we know. She is and what she would probably like, but so anyway. Enough talking, let's get into this. Are you ready? Sarah Fool? Neither one of us is hurt this whole before so. All. Right trashing song for Robin Word clashes. Dear dear. Geologic. Works is the. Guess what done com. Shabak, GATT you. Don't burner burner. Off. Don't. Own The. Person! ME. WHO. Work Boop BOOP. BOOP BOOP Sand best friend with. Money. I love you roll. Your own. Some. Ciampi's means. But that's just how cats bees, not router. The, Song. That was gonNA. Give up her I made him a little bit longer this week. I felt like. A. Minute and a half now. Longer, but yeah. That was trashy song for Robin and. More next one's get three some songs. Song is going to be for Taylor Melville. About Taylor Taylor is a friend of yours. Sarah Celtics Rahman Taylor and I. All met in Chicago Theatre Ten fucking years ago. We became friends ten fucking years ago. You guys so basically. We're friends for life. That's like just how time in stuff works. so Taylor is awesome. Beautiful. Beautiful girl inside an out. Of Jesus. Jesus loves her if he's real ochre, she thinks the thing to know. Is that true because that's a good thing to knows? Beards released Wilkins's. She never like yells at me for not being like religious or anything. That's cool, and she gets it, and she's one of those like actual Christians. Who's like nice in doesn't judge others, and like does good things for people out of the kindness of their own heart, and isn't fucking judgmental like people. Well. I'm sorry that you know people like that, and let's give it up for that. Too so like she's very musical and we're from the bay, so she obviously when I asked her what she wanted us to do, she was like a rap song and I was like what kind of rap song and she said. Hi, FI, of course no, where I do a hiking area song for Taylor mouthful and I'll be honest like it's been a while since I've listened to any. Hi, fi music so. I'm going to be Rusty I. don't even I've I. Forgot what hi Fi was i. may say the R. Word a few times, but don't fall for me. It was a different time I'm sorry it was a different. I'll try not to I'll try really try not to, but you know they. They talked about short buses a lot back in the day. This is a weird time anyway. This is our trashy song for Taylor Melville. A. Secure. Secure. In High. Down at the Berkeley Marina. We're GONNA get crazy. Curly Tear Filipina. Ext.. Barbecues Shit. Trees Erratic. Crazy. Crazy torture, raise little ranch. On! Back to look. Back. Mr A-plus. Hair. Curls woman in the win Taylor Melville. She's one of my best friends. The motherfucker good, I don't care. All. State. In God. Oh, all. Cash tax. She's the coupon speech. She'll make you. Shit. Lift kid drunk. Cows r.i.p Papa Cody. Keeps it houses strong. Trend Taylor Melville I'll say towards the in their first of all. Let's give it up for now is pretty cool. Towards the are really wanted to contribute more to that song, but you were going off, so I just let you go. Fuck. Out there was I. Mean I think you're overthinking I? Think it was fine I. Agree Song I think she'll love it Our next song is for next Patriot. Patron that we got this week. This person is also someone familiar. Thank you to all the friends and family that have been subscribing to our patriots on. We love to get some strangers, so if you're listening to this and we don't know you and you like what we're doing, subscribe like it's a dollar two thousand dollars, but they're. in-between there's like a five dollar ten dollar, or you can just put whatever you want. You can donate whatever you want monthly. And whatever supporting us, we will only do love you. We do extra content. We do fun many episodes. They're different every single week. We're always mixing it up. We're going to have some livestream at some point soon. We're going to keep stretching in expanding and we want you to stretch. US Expand Fan. Ebay. So our next patron that we got is someone very near and dear to us more to you Sarah because he kinda raised you. Dad Scott. Let's give it up for. Renewal! Robin? I was like man. You Know My dad's just that type of person that like you know if your family sucks? My Dad's down to like beer. Dad, friend, you know your friend Dad. My Dad like America's Dad. And so now we've been calling him America's. Like my Dad, my dad loves Jean. Shorts some line. Grilling, try tip and if that's cool. What is? That sounds like a cool dad. Are and we asked? A Scott or daddy is their calls him I don't call him on data. Oh! That's creepy I call. My Mom Mommy sometimes. Is that weird now like? My mom was boy anyway. We ask at what kind of song he wanted. He said something like acid. Key seventy dollars like acid sixty psychedelic. Choices are a little limited I don't know if I found the right thing I hope I've do it justice but I did find something I fill fits that closely, so this is going to be trashy SONG FOUR SCOTT GM! Are you ready for Sir? I think so. Let's do this. Damn. These these men. and. Everybody. Knew. He'll grill the Trad. You a stake into your head from. Sky? He big. Stakes taking lose you. Get me started about the LASAGNA. Invents. at-bats. Always get a couple of places, and then, and then we go back and get some more. The only person that loves to eat food more than me and my dad. Might be joey chestnut the hotdog champion. Joey, Chessman, Champion of the world all right, give it up for Joey Chestnut and give it up for that song cut. Pretty Fun hopefully he likes. Lever flat. Why are you critiquing? are seeing skills? We're not singer. Everything is flat when you're on as always I'm always off key I. Don't think I've ever been good i. don't Really Care Anyway. Theater school where they were like a Sarah you're off key. Go fucking, kill yourself. Never get a job. That I did not. We got one more trashy saw to get to This trashy song is from not a Patriot subscriber, but someone who gave us money. And supported us because he wanted a dope ass trashy song because he saw what we were doing, he was like I wanna be a part of that so give it up a really big I before I. Introduce Person By name I WANNA say that. This person has also been do it. Producing a lot of shows recently to kind of keep comedy going during this quarantine thing so like shadow to him for that also. You know what I'm talking about. Guys give it up for David Dominguez et. Comedy shows some people are being a little bit more reasonable than others about it and. David's one of those people who's being very reasonable about it and doing what he needs to do to make sure the show keeps going so. And we're going to do a signature song for David We're going to a rap song. He wanted to in the style of hip hop. So how have to wrap again? Go Hip hop song by. Do you guys keep wanting me a white person rap? Because it's so fun Sarah it's the best thing ever anyway. Here's a white girl rapping. No, here's our trashy Song for David Damigella. Her. David Dominguez. took. Come. He says. Come in have a he wants. Guest judges. Audited. All you haters! Automated. have to. Stop! Taking pictures of birds. Gene Make, you look. You know you WANNA. Come on his feet. So send sixty bucks at the feet short. where I remember, he says. He does. Not Been in the traffic inches last. Night reminds me. David Domingo. Streets and he'll be out there and he'll be. I'm not. That describes and that's the end of this song I'm so glad. I'm sorry did. The. Weird, but anyway give it up for David Vegas's. Song Good as I could do. I got really into that one yeah! Was Pretty Dope. Wii. Ashanti while. I'm upset. We should take it up with God. with that all the. White Bitch that look like a cabbage patch, kid. That's how God talks. With all that being said. We're finally done with all those trashy song so I. Guess It's time for rule you. TRASHY Bring. Any of the trashy is new straight from the junkyard. Ledge in get to the truth. If you don't mind? Would you WANNA go first this week? You have a story all right, yeah? From last week. Oh Sweet! Go this week, bonus episode I. Don't remember when I said it. Who Cares? Reported that Megan style. These Taliban was shot in the foot. But I also miss reported that Tori lanes shot in defense of Megan this dallying Oh. Yeah, he's the one that shot. Yeah he yeah. WH. Yeah I'll I wasn't there, but they came from a party right? There were out of birthday, party or something, so my guess I. Don't know exactly what happened yet. Except for what Megan's told them and I don't know if it's public yet. But what I'm thinking happened is that they were drunk. Tori was try to fuck or something, and meg was not having it so Tori like as he drunk, dumb ass was probably just shooting at our feet as a joke or some Shit I. Don't know if it was deliberate or not, but he was doing. All fucking shoot at your feet. And then he fucking accidentally shot her or I don't know but either way. I think it was him being dumb I. Don't know if you tried to actually shoot her. I think he would just be dumb and he was shooting at the ground near her some shit. He's fucking man. I. Don't know a lot about Tori lanes though I don't. Know is making these stallions. No snitch, so it's. Which? For Her But at the same time like come on Bro don't shoot people defeat. You're making it. Look bad for other people with guns. You're the one. That's my first thing, are you? Do you have anything or do you want me to do something else because I know I have? We can go back and forth. I just want yeah. I don't really have anything else to say about that one though I think he's probably going to go to jail for a little bit or I don I. Don't know what the is one of those things like that. Just he's small thing where it's like there's no detail is really out other than the fact that he shot her in the foot, so we don't know what Phil, so it's weird I don't know it was in California right I. Think so yeah like in La made. Oh, I don't know if it's one of those things where like if it's A. I think it might be one of those things where if she doesn't press charges than it goes away, but the I don't know 'cause there are some states where shit like that. The state presses charges. Like, not even up to a violin actors. Yeah, yeah, I don't know California live. In Surrey! Stay clean when I get caught for Shit. I'm just only any. Legal. Week at the COPS and the aim. Sorry to see how that would work. Yeah I've never done that do that if you have and I don't know why. You don't arrested in a second like no, no, it would work. Trust me. It does so sad, but it would work. My first story Disney Disneyworld opened during this whole quarantine. Thing and ridiculous. Yeah, it's ridiculous and they had like a rule where you had to have a mascot unless you're eating like. Eating was the loophole I guess right of not having a mask on, but what they found was that a lot of people were walking around with pretzels and drinks. Just eating and drinking and because you know obviously yeah. So they changed the rules now where if you're walking, you can be eating or drinking. You have to have your mass going at all times, and you can only take off when you're sitting. They said that they encourage the people in the park to only take it off if you're six feet away from someone else. You're encouraging. A bunch of dumb asses. People are dumb like just as a collective. Let's say we're DUB lane like they're not going to adhere to that. I think is crazy, disneyworld or the first place. Ridiculous, but I just thought that was that they had to roll back that. Because people were just like okay. I'M GONNA walk and eat then it shouldn't be I. Don't understand why people need to go to theme parks right now. Is it life scary enough? I know horrifying enough that you don't need to go on a fucking rollercoaster right now. I'm sorry. Turn on the news. If you want your heart to start raising beneath your pleasure now, they can't wait A. Little Bit. Decision go down now. Dollars for fucking. Also an article I read. Out Labored ease of paying sixteen dollars for. One of the funny things they mentioned was that the only person really the the only people really that are safe in the park. Are the characters like Mickey Mouse because he has the second had helmet on, you can't. Cough all up in his face. Yeah, that was the first one I started at light with my trash the transients. Doors. Okay, the next one. I have is very I. Didn't really doing research on this? All I know is I saw a picture of a cop at a protest. One is eight was Portland because that's been popping off lately? and his hair looked exactly like Johnny Bravo. have you seen this name? I have not seen Gosh. Okay. Wait a minute as like to the point where it's distracting where you just Kinda look at it and you're like. WHOA. There's that Johnny Bravo. It's to the point where it's like a huge pompadour. It's to the point where Johnny. Bravo is trending on twitter. Rilya oh shit yea. We'll. We'll post a picture on heard instagram. And Twitter? Holy Shit. You okay so far away when she showed him immediately I just thought Vanilla ice didn't actually think. That's a fucking thing and people are like talking about how he looks like Johnny. Bravo. They talk about how he looks like the mayor of crazy crazy town was that like? That kids show something town I. Don't know it's the kid show. I have no idea. What matter someone will, someone will know okay? Crazy town lazy town, which I think that's questionable. They shouldn't have even called Lazy Down, but other people are like how dare you blaspheme Johnny Bravo's name? Yeah. It's crazy, so also question is. How does that haircut regulation? I don't think it is I don't think that. Bothers do not regulate because I feel like they're probably like black officers have to have their haircut cut short. Black officers can't have dreadlocks. Black officers can't have raised all that shit, but then this white motherfucker out here looking like Johnny motherfucking Bravo can wear a helmet. He's only Muslim me her. What's his name, Chad or something? I swear to God. His name stuck in China. Allow. News. Next. The little bit trash year, because this is trashy news, and we WANNA bring you the real trash. Mickey Rourke Calls Robert Deniro a big fucking crybaby. A reignites a decades long feud. So apparently, there's a feud between Mickey. Rourke and Robert Deniro now that I didn't know that either they've been in a feud sense nineteen eighty-seven damn when they start in a movie, Angel Heart Together and Mickey. rourke accused Deniro Very. Poor onset behavior I. Don't know what that means, but they had to be for all these years and I don't know why. But recently Mickey Rourke posted on his Instagram I'M GONNA. Read the quote that he posted. He posted. Hey, Robert Deniro. That's right I. AM talking to you you big fucking crybaby PA. A friend of mine just recently told me that a few months back. You're quoted as saying. Two newspapers Mickey Rourke Aligarh. He talks all kind of Shit. And he continued listen. Mr Tough guy in movies Lino. Listen Mr Tough guy in the movies. You're the first person that ever called me a liar and it was a newspaper. Let me tell you something. You punk ass. Swear to God on my grandmother on my brother and all my dogs I, WanNa fucking embarrassed you severely one hundred percent God Damn Guy Ginks though on him dude like. All on his. Phone, and then he, the note was signing. Mickey Rourke as God is my witness. In here is there and he's like Achey Roar God. Damn I don't know I guess like Deniro, said something in passing in an interview and he got pissed off about that Shit. Old Guys throwdown. Dude like me growing man. Deniro Mickey Rourke Sixty Seven Deniro, seventy six kind of weird. It's like. Own. Yeah, but yeah also lost his career because of his bad plastic surgery, so I think he's always just been a little bit more on edge than most people yeah well, let's let's let's actually say the root cause. He lost it because his boxing career which cost them to get the best surgery because he fucked his face up. But he wanted to be a boxer. He wanted to be a tough guy. Roux and yet to that I really WANNA. See Mickey, Rourke and Robert. Deniro fight like that will be fun. That'd be. That'd be like the old man fighting that family guy episode where you're like slowly. Come night each other and so. Anyway, that's that story when you got to be honest. I don't think I have. A couple others happened in my neck of the woods. Other than some stupid shaped head I think you. Join a fun story, I would love a fun story. 'cause I avenue not not fun fun trashy fine okay. I. Don't know what selling sunsets is at the. Show have you heard of it. So you know who Amanda Smith is know who that is not the host A. Smith Yeah. That's the host. Okay, so she suffered third degree burns making sure. Degree Burns. She was hospitalized two weeks. After sustaining third degree Burns while making sure with her daughter Noah. There's not really much the story. Yeah, she was making Charles and then I guess the the iron or whatever you use to make. Them touched her arm, and it Burns got third degree burns on arrested development anytime. They use the corn baller. cornhole or corn baller hormone. Thank! Reach over it, and they're always like oh son of. Oh actually. Oh I totally forgot. That I saved three stories, but they're really really short. Do you want just like hate you back tomorrow? I have like about two three more plenty of stories as did you have the story about the decapitated dismembered body of tech CEO? Part actually I didn't. I saw that and I didn't add it because I thought you would like. Decapitated tax CEO was found inside of a lower east side apartment. Earlier this week, he was in plastic bags next to a power saw. He says right. Yeah. He was definitely cut up. They found him after three thirty PM cut my life. Of sorry that's. Not. Come on I. Mean like the timing was. It was not appropriate. He is Jim. -CATIONS okay. I'm sorry, go ahead! This guy was you know someone's brother some sun? And people always say that. Came up on the grisly scene shortly after three thirty PM cousin of the dead man requested a welfare check. And the electric saw was found near his thirty-three-year-old. He was thirty three by the way I read it. The guy was in my meadow of putting Soleil. Venture Capitalist and CEO of the Nigeria based Motorbike Startup Okada. All My god, we have matching hair. He had green hair. I'm next, just kidding. Damn! That's this whole. Shit's crazy. The way that already he was in the middle of cutting the body up, and the person walked in on him, and he ran away. So I don't know if that was in. That article, but that was like. I don't see anything about that here I just see that face that looks like the person was interrupted. fled the scene, but they don't know who interrupted maybe the family member. Yeah, I mean that's what that's what our articles might have been different, but that's what I read though. It's fucking crazy anyways. Yeah, that should release sad sorry to his family. Sorry, we sang that song. That's nuts. To do that? I mean obviously I think anyone listen to. This can know inherently that we were not making fun of the dead or anything like that. It's a comedy podcast. Like. The person who did it. The person who is garbage deserves to be in those garbage bags, and not this fucking dude, who was just trying to like make a life for himself as an immigrant from Bangladesh you know. The American dream. You know okay, you know what you go next. I have another one, but you go next. I'm fired up Ogre Yeah. Obviously Nick Cannon He didn't bring that up. Nick Cannon. Made a lot of comments last week, I think and then he tried to make amends for it so he's like trying to apologize now. For All the antisemitic comments that he made he also is still believe trying to get his show like the rights to his show from Viacom after they fired him Yeah, that's pretty much what he's just trying to. He's trying to backpedal now, and because at first he was trying to defend what he said and saying. The, but now he's like backpedaling and he's like. Oh! I Apologize. Yeah and he's just saying how like he thinks his wording was off or whatever and like. I don't know there's so much going on like I feel like just don't say anything that could be even considered maybe antisemitic or anti any. Group of people who have been oppressed per notice. I don't know maybe. I don't know. I agree yeah. Do you have another earnest holding out? My next story. Or do you have anything you WANNA? Say about that no. Okay, so my next story is from a few days ago. I want say a variety. and the headline because it's a video so I, don't like open up the link that I have because I wanted to play or whatever, but there was a passenger, said their hair on fire. So! We live in the bay. Area and Bart is bay area, Rapid Transit, known as being one of the worst public transportation systems in the country, and there was a woman who, straight up her hair on fire, like Michael Jackson, Pepsi, commercial her hair on fire. So. If you want to see the video, it's on NBC. Bay Area, DOT COM so check it out. It's under woman. Light her hair on. It's under bar passenger. Sets hair on fire that. They put out the surveillance video of her, and it's not even the surveillance video from someone's fucking snapchat, and they have like a fucking text bar in like an Emoji. Trying to help. Old Shoot. For the Grand Lake it's first of all the bar second of all. It's twenty twenty one. His anyone ever tried to help anyone these days. Everyone just pull out. There I will say everyone. That's someone is a rarity most people. They're fucking phones and start recording show, which is fucked up. Yeah, so. When someone did finally notice that her hair was on fire, then she liked, fell back and started kicking her feet up like she wanted someone to notice her before she started reacting to it. I don't know she obviously. On drugs. Let's just say that much. Yes Oh bay area. It. Fired Issue Michael. Jackson Pepsi Pepsi commercial that. She did it off you beyond seated didn't say do that. One point didn't like something happened to. Her hair almost caught on fire. Perhaps yeah, I think I think I remember that happening, but anyway. I last story I. Do because we've been kind of doing a lot of stories this week. Kanye West earlier today tweeted. And then deleted a new album announcement fan. so. I think like you know I. Think you said it in some other people cited, but about him doing this presidential bid just to promote his new album. I think that's the case, but he deleted a hell Hella quick, but people. It's fucking twitter and instagram people as soon as something gets posted. Someone's takes a screen shot like someone's job to do that. Shit. And, so a took a screen shot I. Guess the the album is supposed to be called Donda. And it was, he tweeted this on Saturday. So yesterday tweeted this any said it would be released next week. And he deleted the post. So I don't know if he was because he was going to drop out and then just release it next week, and then you know like Oh. Hey, mom came out by Shit I'm you know presidential or if he was like that, but I'm thinking. Maybe he was gonNA to do that, but he was then I saw the. We're GONNA. Talk about later a little bit will. We saw the his rally today that he held a safe Carolina. And I think he maybe thought Oh. You know what maybe I got a chance. He got that kind of Donald. Trump and he was like. Oh, maybe I can actually do this. Because some people were behind him and lakes whatever he was saying some shit, though, but anyway that yeah that that was basically it. He had an album. Are He tweeted about an album coming out, and he deleted it right away so I'm not sure what that means, but you might have some new music coming out I. Don't know. I hope so I hope that something good that comes out of it. That's all the stories i. have is that other stories won't be dope? If yeah, that's all I have. That'd be dope. If he did about with that album and he may be, was he? He took it down because he was postponing it because he wanted to add a song. Oh, his presidential bid be like I ran for president. You know some shit like to talk instead. Both for me. The President Cartier Twenty? Right he added to your black man. Prison. Inch Rasa. trashy news really like a really short trashy Trivia I didn't. Find! Yeah find. This week. Yeah, but I couldn't find. One that had to do a chance or like real chance of love. That's what we watch this week. That is what we watch this week. Done why we always tell you that it's in the description, but sometimes. You don't look at the description I. Don't want you listen to the. Radio Listening! At least who fucking listens to anything without reading what they're listening to? Like that's so weird to me that you just go play play half. Just believes things they here. Yeah, but the has nothing to do with playing. Read is cool track like you. Would you do that? Would you just go on your phone number Lou to? Going to read it now. No, so fuck! Does people anyway we watched. I'm now You watched a real chance of love, but I can find a good quiz on that, so whatever, but I did find quiz from pop buzz. Whatever I don't know what that is. Found a quiz. On which reality show do you truly belong in and I thought since we both like truly. Sponsor US callback. that it would be kind of a fun quiz, so this is. Going to be this week's version. Of. Shit. Oh. Do this like normally. Do these kinds of quizzes? So you go I. I will ask the question. Okay. You're you're ready? I question number one. Someone is messing with your best friend during lunch. How do you handle it? Era? A come up with a strategic to take them down be. Get an a huge screaming match. See Rip out their hair extensions. Or D. walkaway and cool off. Someone is messing with your best friend during lunch. How do you handle it the first one, so you would come up with a strategic way to take them down, okay? Question number two. And there is one two, three, four, five, six, seven eight nine questions. Would you rather have all the attention on you or do you prefer to make things happen behind the scenes? Such as the which which one you WanNa, be behind the scenes or you the attention. Okay all the attention. Question Three. You've just arrived home after a long day and you're starving. What do you do? Whip out the fast food menus in order in. Be. have a glass of wine and call it a night. C- get into the kitchen and make something fresh and delicious or D. fine whatever snacks and leftovers I have an improvise. The first one I'm fucking. Whoop out fast food, get delivered. Give me some burgers and giving some friends. The last one always also kind of fits you because you liked to improvise a lot with like. But yeah now. Okay, so whip out fast movement sterling long damn like treat yourself. All right next question. or Question. Are you here to make friends? Basically a I'm not here to make friends and be Yeah I. Always wanted to make friends not here to make friends. But I. Don't know what show it is well. No, it's not, it's not. You'RE GONNA. You'RE GONNA. Get it actually. Be because like I. Always do make friends I've already never. Too late. which adjective best describes you. A dramatic be free spirit see emotional. D- dedicated. Or e creative, which one best describes you dramatic, free-spirited, emotional, dedicated or creative, while they all make me sound really fucking stupid, but I guess the threes eerie. Guys. Free Spirit. Third to last question. Do, you have more introvert extrovert tendencies. Inter extrovert. Probably Extra I would say extrovert THOUGHT ABOUT IT Because I need my alone time to trigger very much extrovert, though charge up. What are you afraid of? Small enclosed spaces. Needles. Heights. Blood. Public speaking. Or insects infest in just kidding now. I'm not Super Fan of heights, but I also am not like Superfan of confined spaces unless him sleeping. Okay with heights heights okay. Slash question. Slash question if you were on a reality show. Who would you want to be on it with you? A, my best friend's. Be a bunch of strangers or see my family. Who is the gone best friends? Okay? I think your family will make a good show, too, but let's say. Army. All right and then. You gotTA. Let me see. Love Island. Have never seen love island. I don't WanNa. Be Islands of love. If you guys know what Love Island is this? S T D island, Sarah Island belongs on love, island. Probably get kicked off in the first episode being a Dick to everybody. Coconut oil. I'm going to do same quiz. So, we'll just make this quick. Someone is messing with my best sauce. Someone is messing with my best friend during lunch. How do you handle it when you know what I'm going to rip out the hair extensions? That's what the Alad do would you rather have all the attention on your prefer to make can happen behind the scenes. I'm a behind the scenes Kinda guy. I'm a fucking SCHEMER and. SCHEMA boy. FEMUR boy! I just arrived home after a long day and I'm starving I do I get into the kitchen and make some fresh and I have a glass of wine and call it a night, yeah? I would drink drink. Drink. Why would just drink? Whatever's there? Are you here to make friends now who the fuck is on a reality show to make friends? That's so stupid. which adjective best describes me. I would have to say creative from being real a put creative. introvert extrovert introvert. What am I afraid of I? AM afraid I would say small close spaces like yeah, 'cause I'm already small. You know so. And, if I was in reality, show who I WANNA be on it with me a bunch of strangers because my friends and fucked my family. Like I, Love I, love my friends family, but I would never it'd be I. would not. She's listens to this. I would not be on his show with them. Though because it would just I would reveal too much that I don't want to reveal anyway. But a bunch of strangers and the show that I would be on is. Re Pause dragway. GIG, Girl. Saturday jonty or something like that. Okay. Cool Yeah that was fun. That was this week version of. she trivia. All right like I said we watched this week. We Watch real chance of love. I think we're going to get into it. If you have anything that you research, we could probably talk about it during the whole thing, but assure all right, so let's go get into it. Love Me. Nuts visit. got. Song at. Our, at least say best song ever on vh. One celebrity show are patron. Saints of Trash Reality Mark Cronin and Cris Abrego more Cronin Cris Abrego. Cronin okay. They brought us. A beautiful dating show called real chance of love. It follows real and chance from I love New York. Spin off of flavor of love so this is a spinoff of a spin off. which is the case for a lot of slavery of the H., one real and chance where brother or yet were brothers? R.I.P but anyway go ahead and relationships brothers that were competing on I love New York neither one of them one. You know sadly and I did a little research on why they were chosen to have their own dating show. initially Mr Boston was supposed to have his own show you why he declined. Ways he declined so that was an offer. They offered him as. As I like there nothing was he that I don't know man like. Do People Right in like? Hey, we really want to see more of Mr Boston late. I don't know Mr Deflect. The. You know what caught him picking his nose on Camera Multiple Times I will I will give some claps and cheers for Mr, Boston for not coming back. Thank you for saying no. That would have been horrible. That would have been the worst show footage. Sarah Boston of love like. Love and Boston. Boston Tea Party. Barney she Mr Bar Boston's chick part cheap party tea. Party Tea Party. That's exactly what they would call that show. But it happened was he was going to get his own show? But, then I guess. Real and chance were also on I love money, and then they they got feedback from people who watch I love money in a lot of people were like Oh, I want to date them or whatever they asked them if they wanted to show and on the fuck. Yeah, because they're real and chance and they wanted to promote their rap groups. Stellian airs more. which stallion airs I mean. We'll talk about why they chose that name later, but. What A name out there! We watched season one this week. the entire season entire season. Thing. It was kind of hard to look away. Okay, so I know that this is a spin off of a spin off in their famous off of someone who's like wouldn't even be famous without Flavor Flav. Who himself wasn't even that famous at the time. So. I was not expecting much, but the girls. They picked worse so fucking crazy. It felt like I was watching the bad girls club more than a reality dating shows I say before we get into the girls that I've noticed in a lot of these shows that they flavor. Flav is like the elder vampire. The celebrity shows because everyone. They find a way to mention like J. One right? Someone mentions him, and then radio says shout out to the big homey. In the confessional thing, and then they mentioned on this show also. In one of the in the clip show I believe. Chance was like. He was like man I. Ain't Flava Flav do I. Look like flavor flav clock. I mean like I got love at home like him, you know. It's going to be like the always mentioned him away with like you know I got love with him like she had also the homeys play, he says. If, it wasn't for Flavor Flav. Soon. And these dudes like. I feel like real chance of love was the best crossover between like rock of love, Hum Flavor of love. Because the stallion errors, they had country flare. Up Hip hop. Hip Hop. They were like the the one thing that kept coming to mind was they were like a not as good version of Flo rider, think flow ride here apart rap. But was that for the history that you have for? It would just like. Okay! Let's talk about I. Guess some of the favorite girls in the house or the girls that were in the first episode. Yeah I was GonNa say what I thought real and looked like okay. Yeah, we started this so real and chance. Real chance of love is a show. Full of people who look like other people mixed together. What do you mean my delivery so real? He looks like Chris Angel Plus genuine. Plus Cat Williams okay I can see that, and then chance looks like Eddie Murphy. Plus Jason Derulo plus. Cal Mitchell. Plus Juicy J. that's a lot of people. Put them in a blender. A lot of features. Please look up the pictures of these people. If you haven't watched the show because it would make more sense if you do that yet like I, don't know to me though chances mostly looks like Eddie Murphy. 'cause Gavin. Yeah and he had a slight list and he said he was loud loud thing about them. We're like Eddie Murphy and like you know like. The movies Eddie Murphy would do that. He would be like really like you know boisterously loud. If that's a word and chance was like the same way. Yeah, he's eighty. I can see chance being a movie where he played a bunch of different characters, including like a fat woman and like his. Pumps like chances, patiently the clone. Remake remake the clients. Put chance in there, but yeah. They looked like a bunch of different people mixed together for some reason they liked to wear cowboy boots and holsters quotes. It's because they grew up on a ranch. To like Ed Hardy t-shirt part didn't make any sense, yeah. I don't understand anything. They want to be like they just. They were like these weird, shiny workout fabric looking sleeves. let's get into. Show. Should we just go in order of WHO got kicked off? Just go by whoever have to mention. All of them are just the ones I stood. Out. Of course we gotTA talk about. The first girl kicked off the show. She was there today chance and he named her stocker. Did they know before they were there. They kind of had an idea like what who they wanted to date, or was it just now? Did they find out late? Okay I don't know how production works right around. During the show when we were watching, it was moments like anybody was up for grabs. That's gross, but yes there stocker, but she was definitely therefore chance. They called her stocker because she's the one that made the clock. That pissed him off because I'm not flavor. And then from then on older stalker, because he thought that was weird so he was super disrespectful her the whole time, and then he kicked off the show, and then to make her seem like stocker. She decided to say I know you're mass base I know your home address. If you thought I was a stocker, before gave ready, yeah? Never mind. Yes, basically threatened to stalk him. As a in in defense of him, calling her a stocker. We can talk about so heard your favorite check on the show. She wasn't my favorite I. I liked so that I. Never said she was my favorite. Like I want a girl to like chase after me and bus down my door and be like literally never those. I I think she was fun, but she was not my favorite. My favorite was. Like milk was the shit like. so head was fun she. I wish she didn't get kicked off. She was a little too forward. T I think she basically was grinding on chance, an Jeanie and when I say grinding I mean like she was viciously humping him to the. Man was gonNA. Get bruises concerned about his wellbeing. This guy, the guy that basically just got on this show to fuck everybody. That's all you wanted to do. She was going so hard on him that he got scared and he was like I gotta get away from this. Sean and it's like well. You're the one that gave her the name so hood, also she the worst haircut I've ever seen in my fucking. Was Inbetween like a Karen, and like eve the rapper it was like short. Let Karen Haircut. Black hair was it wasn't done well, so the cuts taken out of the back. Ralph Chunky and the died just looked like someone put a bowl on her head. It was. ALONE BOWL! I liked bubbles. Yeah I like bubbles to I like bubbles. Name. Is Bianca Sleuth. Sounds like fucking. Nancy Drew Carey like that doesn't sound like a real person she sounds. The sluice sounds like a slow Rosie Perez. And she walked up. She's like. He was like my mom's Dominica. In my daddy's Dau-. I'm not even kidding. Neighborhood bubble was skipping ahead a little bit, but like when they were doing that challenge, it was in the clip show or the later shows. And she she had one challenge with a group of girls. One of the girls in her group was Kiki. And she's. There was a part where. Bubbles like yeah, and like we won. Because Kiki really motivated me because she said to me like. If you fuck this up bubbles, I'm GONNA. Fuck you up and that really motivated me. Fit. Genuinely airheaded it was. Very entertaining to watch. I think she was my favorite person on the show and. She you want to challenge or she got to do a song with like a bunch of. Young. Girls got to record a little bit that they were going to add. Onto the season is when I came. Bubbles gets in there and she doesn't know what to do. And her voices so annoying in like high pitch, and she just starts going I can't wait to get a chance with chance because. My Daddy. Is My down every time, and when I say every time I, mean this time and on Ray j because those are the only times I've seen it, but every time there's a musician I'm doing. Air quotes I musician on the show. They always have the girl do something in the studio and the girl. One of the girls always does some kind of mony. Chance. To. Banish, she was. 'CAUSE! My Indiana. And then back in way. Way before you can. Even weirder when she was saying, chance was my daddy chance started getting in the magazine and she's Mama Me. She's Mommy and was like that was weird. Already, weird. But Anyway! Man and then mill on the track she was the one that literally was just like dress up. Asked cheeks on real just going. Right yeah. And then it turns out later that she used to do porn, so it's like hell yeah. You knew what you were doing. Before you can tune you if you're listening to this podcast out. Loud on speakers, turn it up really loud right now. Oh! Okay anyways. Turn down now. I'm trying to trying to remember all the. There was a girl on there who didn't really have any memorable moments to me, but her name was meatball. It's. Me More me. She was from the East. Coast I think. Jersey and she was Italian and she sounded like Sammy Sanders. You're! Hella funny 'cause they named her meatball every time she came on screen. All think of was Jersey. Sort of I would just say me me. Sheva certified me ball. Me Both like to get day drunk I kind of wish. They would have been cool if she crossed over and went to Jersey shore at some point eight, I feel like we would be extremely remiss if we didn't talk about lusty a little bit. Oh Fuck I forgot about less the oh my God less. Steve reminded me of Earth a kit in the way that she like Berry. She was very hot beautiful woman, but she was scary as fuck but she. Ask Voice and she seemed very calm, but then she would say some shit, and it will be laying all. I couldn't put my finger on less like I couldn't figure out what kind of gross you was because there's moments where she tries to act, are like refined, and she'll call the other girls ghetto, but then like. She goes get. And then like when she was in like an in A. Confessional and things like it was like one of the pre interviews before the show started, she was all like a guy with the big dig a big wallet. Understand, this person like are you classier? Are you like again? I don't get it now. She's she's crazy. Yeah, less was nuts She had that crazy look in her eyes. She said things like she said things like. Are you scared of me? Are you scared that I'm GonNa? Hurt you and the only time anybody says somebody. Some shit like bad is when they want to hurt you, and that might be hot for some people I. Don't think it was hot for them. I think they genuinely were scared. She also got an yelling matches with Uh. With Kiki was key Kizzie was because he they were yelling at each other and. Say Lusty didn't well. She called her something racial. And they're both black. So that was confusing. She just I think she just does what she called her go. She says she was a ghetto or like a hood, rat or something like that it was. Specifically her like a black something and I was like. That she was. Rough to here, but then Kiki was like mom's a bitch. Your Mom's a bitch and she's like well. My Mom's dead so and she's like okay well. Your mom was a bitch when she was alive and she's still a bitch now that she's dead. People do when they get angry. sputter. Tennessee that she was. But, she didn't want to back down from it, so she kept going with the whole. Your Mom's a bitch. Thing and announcement lusty was like. Again! I was like. The way she was pausing in between things. So scared! Like! That's when Actually Bay Bay stepped in 'cause, she was like Holy Shit. She stepped in and was like I don't know how to want to murder in this room right now. What Fun! Fearless. He was crazy unless he was. You know how you know. She was crazy. I'm not even just calling her crazy. There was a scene where chance as he asked her like. Are you crazy like? How are you mentally are no real answer that he asked her how you mentally and her answer was well. You know what I like to think and was. The answer is be like I'm buying I'm good. With, who are you trying to explain it? I? C. O, Ko. Oh, yeah, no I was in to say like. KOA The. Weird like when she was the fighter she was. She was the one that I always want to pasta. And she was the only one where like she had a normal like she had almost like. A Elizabeth homes like deep voice when she talked, but if she got emotional, started yelling, her voice would not go past a certain register. It would just stay. Hours. Bad, and even at one point, real ones like I know. She was like hell a disrespected, but right now I'm just like voices annoy. Booze. Against so mad can't breathe, but then again almost understand because she's used just like beating the shit out of people. Yeah I. Don't think she's ever really had to vocalise anger before it just didn't it didn't. There's always a and I. I think this is because Chris Abrego and Mark Cronin have a formula by now obviously. There's always the archetypes like her. She's like cage in. was like so angry that he didn't know how to deal with his anger and shit. Yeah, so he would get emotional, also the archetype of chance starting a rumor that she's more into the girls there than the guys they're. That's always something that happens. There's always person where they're like. Gate or sexual, which she can't love me. Yeah, which means that's just some masculine insecure. Yeah. I think back in the day in this still happens i. mean obviously, but like I think the whole thing. Is that they for whatever reason think that? If they're dating a bisexual woman that another woman's GonNa come by someone be lay. A guy in his head thinks like our women, so if she is bisexual, she loves women. She's GonNa leave me for a hotter woman. That was so stupid. So. Yeah, they were given A. Chance started a rumor that he thought she was like getting a little bit too friendly with the other girls and then the other. Joined in because they WANNA, win and of course and then she was just like. Like. Like there was one point where Kiki and I think Kiki. Fighting, she likes stepped in, and she did the Arthur fists, or is she just? She and then she did this shit where she liked pulled back like she was gonna hit her, but like thanked her out. funnies buck Ko bad, though, because then at the last minute real like I don't think real was gonNA pick her. And then chance was like okay you to be on my side and she was like what the food. No. NHL kicked off. Worst of all time I hated. Anyway and then the only other girl. I can think of to talk about which there's not much to talk about. Really I don't think is rabbit. She was of booze you to me. Ones that was like Helen nobody until the end episode, and then all of a sudden. She thought she was better than everybody. She would I didn't like her. Boozy like she would talk about everyone else. You'd be like this girl's ghetto. This girls wearing the same shoes for three days. Dude with the. She's the one that like in real. In chances, parents came. She fucking said Riske's like personal shit about her brother, being in jail for. Murder or some shade revealed that out of nowhere or no friskies like the kind of girl. You want your son to be with because her brothers in jail for murder. Murdering. was held responsible for everything. My brother is done. I don't know nothing like he's actually a pretty nice guy. Basic standards he's. EXCEPT I. Would appreciate. We bring it up again, but except he erased all of your shit, though twice twice. For. Family Computer All Day music movies pictures. Del Better? Rabbit Suck Dick's. What about Kelly? The industry. Has You know I had her on Melissa grows to mention, but I don't remember much about Kelly other than she was Asian and she. Finals. Ko. Voice you're like and she? knows. He did make it to the finals but I. Honestly cannot remember much about her. Throughout the series, she was not that memorable tumor. She was Asian. Get talking about them like being sexually compatible in front of his parents, which embarrassed her. She's a makeup artist. She wants to do the special effects make. Dossier was the industry girl remember. She's an industry girl. She's an industry girl. She's like I work in the industry because I'm a makeup artist, but I'm not like I. Don't know what the fuck you think I am, and then she said something like. I don't if you know who my dad is. There was cornfed. Only. because. Boiler, spoiler alert, real picked cornfed and chance picked nobody because didn't want to break in one's heart or light. I! Honestly, don't think it's much of a spoiler because when I was watching her, that was like that's what's going to happen. And there's no way chance is ready for love. Why even fake it and go through the whole thing and pick someone in afterwards and the reunion? Go like yeah. I didn't work out like why fake it actually thought he was the most real. Martini Dude like. Just, the whole show real was a caricature of a person and chance was like slightly abusive to these women through the whole thing. There was one point working grabbed you by the arm. Let her go. He was like physically like not even slightly. He was like full on abusive to some of them like there was that. Yeah. I think it was so hood or it was. It was, but someone was trying to leave the room, and no, it was one of reels, girls and he was trying to talk to her. I forgot who was and traveling room. Legs to leave the room. And chance was like kind of like standing by the door and asked us like going out the door. He grabs her arm like hell up tight. Door and shuts the door, and he grabs her and pulls her towards him, and you can actually see her. Get like a little bit like physically shared. And then he like let her, and he was hell of physical with do physical with a lot of the girls in ways that were like not okay in the violent physical way. But then there was that one scene where mill in real were like making out on a bed like intensely and then funky in. Chance. Her on the. US. Actor, she was leg. Hey, stop what the hell! Agnew. I can't believe that that was two thousand and eight. Why difference just kidding aren't. fucked up right now. No wonder people don't understand. because. That's the type of Shit we saw. And then there was one part where real said to someone like Oh, you so drunk I shouldn't take advantage of you, and then the girl was like. It and like you. She said I wish you would. She would. And it was waiting brought. Yeah, he he said it in a way where it was all like I. Really Want to take advantage of you right now, but I'm not going to, but I really want to, you know. Macro talking about taking girls on the boat on. It's always sunny in Dennis was like. Yeah, you got a girl on a boat. The Ocean. And then it's like you know. You give her the implication that something could go very wrong for her. You want and he's like. Are you win hurt these women? Like no one's ever getting hurt the implication. That's what's happening. Here is the implication. Since we revealed the who they chose the in. Maybe we should just Kinda. Go over like top moments of the show, and that's kind of a good place to I. Think definitely. One of mine I mean. The recording booth was one of them but another one of my favorite moments was probably like the biggest thing of the show when they did that faker, the were real. right. So basically they they staged a thing for the girls you could tell. It was stage because it was bad acting. Nobody. Was Real and chance. We're in a club with the girls, and some guy walks over and starts talking to Kelly, and then he's like. Hey, do I know you're whatever, and then like real intense look visibly mad and they start getting angry and then later on at the bar. A chance goes to get a drink. The Guy talked shit to him. Chance pushes them. And then real sleeps at a nowhere like superman with the bottle, and just smashes it over the head. Explodes everywhere, because obviously fake as glass. No. If a beer bottle when explicit. Ridiculous I can I can see how in the moment if you were there and you're one of the girls. You, Wouldn't think about that. Girl's drunk before the Yeah, and then they decided to have like the producer at Cris Abrego made us fucking on talked me. He made his Alfred. Hitchcock debut. He was in the fucking thing. In length. and loose fit Denham. There he is Chris Abrego and he's like. Hey, guys, yeah. Really serious of the cops are here. They need to talk to you one by one about what happened at the bar and everybody's freaking out and I'm like. This isn't for real. This is so ridiculous. Yeah, and they pull each girl in, and they have these like fake cops like. No they were actually. He says like. Thank you to the real police offices and he was sitting in your hands. Well, that makes it worse. Watch and he's interrogation like these fucking assholes. They're using the worst tactic. They looked at cornfed and they were like. Have you ever been interviewed by the police before? And she's like no I'm from fire. Go North Dakota, I've never even spoken to police officer. That wasn't my own goal, or you know some weird shit like that. They're just like well. You know if you lie to us. We'll take you to jail right now. You'll be in jail night. You won't go home. And, she was like Oh. Bad for her I felt better than everybody, but especially the black women on the show because I feel bad for them, because they did very like a lot of them did well like baby held her Shit Samsung. Put Women of color through being interviewed by two so. Fair. A different perspective. Here's the thing I get what you're saying. It's not fair, but I can guarantee you to those black women. It was nothing for them. No I'm serious for them. It was nothing like baby. Obey was literally just like I. Don't know nothing. Why are we still talking? Why are you still talking to me? They were just like buying. Like, even think. Kiki. fucking held, she shakes from the. Exactly They didn't care. There was down. Is Saying Shit? You can't get you Outta me what's up? Other were theater and I love it. Ella cut that out. anyways for now. I love it because it's like I. Don't know that's something you always learn. Just growing up in general is like. COPS. Ask if you've seen anything like your leg, no! Yeah. No. Not always good! From the St Street Code. You can't stitch I I'm from the streets you know. Even if I am I'm from. I'm from. I'm not from a great neighborhood I grew up in, but I wasn't in the street. So I don't have to abide by those laws. I can just switch all. Go full care on some of these restaurant ICBM open around here. But yeah. So, we've they were. Getting them some grows snakes, some grows. Didn't any standout moments of that like who cornfed actually held her own right? She didn't this year, but she started crying a heart and it was like freaking out. That's like the only reason why she held her own was only because she was so freaked Dow and crying that she didn't. She couldn't say anything because she just like couldn't breathe. But Hey, she's from Fargo. So who cares whatever she's never. And then there was a few girls that basically just folded. Yeah, they were just like real real, did it? And one of the girls F older was K. O.. And then. When, so after they all like did their thing. Chance came out, and he's all like hey grows. Oh, they arrested real basically to make real arrested real. They act like they're really walked out. And then chance was like. Hey grows. Want to tell you that. This was all a challenge law. Immediately all the girls were just like. You crazy you ha- Ko just runs off on our own behind the staircase, and she's just bawling her eyes out crying, and then like they get hurt and then when she talking to like. With the calls are. Share the moment. and. When, the cops come around, you, close your mouth, those you. fucking. The anything you know anything you ever watch. Anything! Every movie I can talk a little Kim yeah. Yeah, you might do some time for it, but not snitch. Challenge. Saying my highlight of the entire season was anytime. They interacted with wildlife. Chance particularly there were times where girls would be talking at a squirrel would run by. Totally, stop listening to the girl for a long time it, but like you see that squirrel. He's got. Had Way more respect for animals than you did for women. That's ridiculous, so Chris, there was a lizard in the house and he was like upset, because none of the knew how to pick it up right, so then show them how to pick it up by its tail, and like all day, and all this shit and he was just like. What that Lizard get hurt one of these dumb ass hoes. Ono a shit. Yeah, he he's. Of, really questionable things about the women. He made up a lot of lies about the women. He sexually assaulted. Some women physically assault women. A Lotta things happen and. To some women in its show, it was probably the one of the worst. Treatment of women in these shows I've seen. All Him in really did fight like the BATGIRLS club. Yeah, he would fight. That had nothing to do with the dudes in. Dramatic the girls did create friendships, and then when the dudes were like picking girl, it was almost like you know. May the best woman win in a way lake? Didn't it didn't seem like there'd be hard feelings between a lot of them, which was interesting to watch, because usually the women like really divide and try to destroy each other, but in this case it happened a little bit, but it wasn't the main thing that happened. The women were really good at destroying themselves on this show. Yeah, like milk Kept line about shit, or was she telling the truth? Lying. Lying. Lying she's like real tolmie that Kiki chances deck. Velasco over the reunion. I would just want WanNa. Go over that. Really quickly and then we can go into our. Sarah Says There Union Masao Ratchet Dude la La hosted. You know that's GonNa be good. Obviously they VH1. Has This racist? If it's a rock show. It's ricky. Rodman if it's a hip hop. She did the Ray one also shirt. I think it's partly in my mind. It was partly because they were like. La You've worked with black people. This is what the producers said they were like. Hey, it's probably going to get ratchet, so we need someone who's going to handle it and La handled it. She handled her stood because they were pretty ratchet separately. Even knew you know she was. She was a great host Lalla. Hats off. For that, Shit Yeah you. I've ever seen because the women just would not in the audience, members would shut the fuck up. They were being heckled by audience members. Amazon the women everybody was yelling. There was Hella moments where someone will yell to the audience member like shut the fuck. Up here bitch. Just went out. There looked at chance in his eyes, and said you a bitch ass. And good for her, because he fucking grabbed her, and then she got kicked off as he lied about her. Yeah, he said she did a spread Eagle in front of him, and then he'll kicked her off, and she was just like fucked up and I'm like how I was treated. I don't like how it's talked about and that was like glossed over. It's just awful man. Dude. Things, she got to say her fucking two cents. She got to be like you're a bitch ass, and he is a bitch as sorry. You said that like Tommy Chong WanNa. You're like it's awful man. You roll sixties like weed smoker! The way that they kept like fucking with Promo and even rabbit switching between. We didn't even talk about Promo. I mean I just say. I didn't really she flip flopped a lot, but like I, didn't she? Wasn't that interesting? Yes. To know anything about her, because everyone just being like Oh, I thought you were here for real, but now you're answering. Don't think there was much to know about her. That's just my opinion. WHO doesn't know? How did you make up? Lots of fighting lots of wretchedness Did anyone physically fight? They didn't get here. There was a moment where someone on almost knocked the table over insecurity to come in, and I'm like yeah, grab people, but it wasn't really that I think in the. And one of them. People will actually fall, day, one ray J. Rey Jay was more ratchet. Obviously, that's why we gotTA. Watch batgirls because when Robin. I used to do batgirls Tuesday's. East much batgirls and Tuesday Every reunion episode of the Bad Girls Club multiple fights like they actually physically connect. It's Rad, so we got to do that and it wasn't hockey, right? It's like you watch hockey over basketball. 'cause you like fights. You Watch bad girls club over this stuff. Could you like fight exactly? So now I think maybe before we go into Sarah says. Can you do a little bit of like? After the show has never type thing, we can do like a brief like where they now title. Most of the women haven't really done much. Let's be honest. rabbit became a fashion designer. I think risky was on Levin Hip hop new. York in empire was risky. While one of them. Did that what else? Oh Oh. Got Arrested in twenty fifteen for having someone with a Paris's. Dodge wwl. Dodge the there's. Maybe if he would have had a rock. Buck among a lot of the other girls are working MLM's. Kelly became a marketing yeah. Kelly became a musician slash Internet personality, who has a ton of fillers and Botox and Tahoe poured and learn and smooth. fillers blackhawks I. Don't know her deal is. was that milk was arrested for stabbing someone with scissors that I can I want to know who on what happened. I want to know what to tell me Tell me more. Tell me also the biggest news. Also WanNa know of I know flakes, Black Guy, so I'm kind of curious if it was the black. I'm just curious. I'm not nothing anything that you have to answer. I'm just curious if it was black Aaron I, think the biggest news that happened since the show was that not only did real fine love with his wife, and they had a beautiful signed together real also passed away from colon cancer in Twenty fifteen. He was only thirty five years old. Who is really really sad talking sad about it online? There's hell pictures of him in the hospital. I want to say this now. Though did not lose his beautiful fucking hair. And thank God that. so rest in peace real. telling actually wrote a song in his memory. And I would like to quote one of the lyrics. If you don't mind nate, go ahead. I do not mind. Okay, so real wrote this in Chance wrote this in dedication real. This line in one of the songs said. You baddest without you. I'm just saddest. For, some reason that fucking hit really close to home. that whole song was like actually pretty good in really sad, and it sucks because you really see their bff sale of to fuck around and joke around together. They work the other on shows together, and he died way too young so recipe real, but now chance might get another TV show. The last chance at love so hopefully covid will settle down, and he can find true love and men that hole in his heart. Chance, even these women for rooting for you. The trash that's. so yeah with that I guess we should go right into the Sarah. I'm serious kind of hot this week, so? it's time for. Sarah says. Hey everybody! Did you guys think that Kanye dropped out of the presidential race? You're wrong. Connie didn't drop out in fact. He had a rallied today about on Annetta. Kanye West Campaign rally. I when I tuned in, he confused the word divorce with the word abortion, so I was already hooked couldn't watch enough It was upsetting how my brain did like tug O war whilst he was talking through this thing because he would say one thing that was terrible, and then he would like counter. It was something that was reasonable. I'm like Oh no! I thought I was watching. Someone tried to do a Warhol Kaufman comedy said, but they didn't know any of Warhol's jokes, so they were trying to imitate his style. A local area comedian for those who don't know him. Check him out on, Youtube. There's a bunch of Shit on there and then watches youtube videos and then compare it to Connie's rally you're GONNA be. You're going to be shocked also. Where is the Magic Miracle Water? You're literally sounding like TV and. Then evangelists. That the TV evangelist so in Miracle Water and Shit. You're up there. You're talking about Jesus, and all this shit, and then randomly, he would get booed randomly. He would get. There were people talking and you couldn't hear anything. The whole thing was a fucking nightmare. Mess Connie had no control over that crowd because he kept saying. Bullshit Outlandish Shit. Basically, he said Oh, so if a woman says my body might choice. Is that like the same as if she has a one year old child and the father doesn't see him at her house. Her choice I'm a murder. Your one year old child I was like. What, the fuck, how high are you or how high are you not? Should you get higher? Maybe you should smoke some weed and settled down Connie. Or maybe you should take some fucking medicine, because this is out of these are the ramblings of a mentally ill person who has not doing anything to help themselves. It's ridiculous. Put then, he said. I'm not trying to make abortions legal. I'm just saying that when women use the excuse of I can't financially support a child. There's a problem there. Everybody should have enough money to financially support however many children they want I don't know maybe everybody who gets pregnant and has a kid should get a million dollars or something. That is a direct quote on. You said. If you get pregnant, he'll give you a million dollars or something. Therefore vote Konya. Get pregnant. Get a million dollars. Let's all have babies. Yeah, CIA so basically. Kanye West less his damn mine. WHO's wearing a bulletproof vest? It wild. If you guys have the chance to watch it, watch it but also. If was promising a million dollars to have a baby. Have Babies. And at. And that Sarah says. All Right? Yeah, and that's our episode this week. Did I loved it already. I already know. Favorite episode. Great for that. you again you can. If you want to get access to our Minnesota, which would be out this Friday, we have a new one to third episode is coming out this Friday. You would have to subscribe to our patriotic. Just go to Patriotdepot dot com slash the trash podcast in sign up. Got Some really cool tears, medical perks, Indiana, also you can go to the trash podcast, dot, com, and there you can find all of our merge We have mugs right now. We're going to have shirt soon again and also you can see other podcasts that we have gone Sarah's paranormal patties, which comes out Wednesdays. High and you can also find my other podcasts that I do call. The cross faded podcast. which is spelled with an X., not the word cross, which is kind of confusing, but I did that on purpose, so it's the cross. Beta podcast with nate. Arnie so check that out. It's on our website. WWW DOT www dot. The trash podcast. Debbie. WanNa say to the kids before we go. don't go to. The kids are still out of school that sucks. Plead the YOU WANNA say to him. for the kids. Don't yeah, actually you know what we, but we want to say. Don't home a lot more. Don't fuck the Kale Fuck kids guys. About it. Don't be edges lane. Whether. They're they're willing. smashing guys had blood whenever. Finding. On the. I come out I. I. Saw Garments. On And look either wrestler now we take the trash man out of retirement. I need some trash the plug up because your blue. Up to trash. I think the cleaning up and thrown the trash always good. When I'm dead. trae.

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Publicly Fangirled - Number 8

Broken to Brave

08:52 min | 1 year ago

Publicly Fangirled - Number 8

"Broken to brave episode, six number eight publicly fan girl. I love the X. Files. I mean I really loved. The X. files unlike anything before or after I, love the X. Files I have loved it since the very first episodes originally aired and have been relatively closeted most of my life. If anyone would mention it I would light up and be desperate to talk about it, but I would never engage in the community I would read the fan fiction, but never comment. I would scour websites and blogs, but never engage in twenty sixteen. Gillian Anderson and David Duchovny where it was World Chicago about twenty minutes away from my house more importantly, I had a press pass for the event I stood in the next room, doing everything I could. Could not to run into them or catch a glimpse of them. I was so afraid that the glow coming off of me would alert everyone that there was a rabid fan on site I hid the whole time fast forward to August of twenty nineteen, and both actors were coming back to the same comic con, I had a press pass, but this time I was realizing how short life is and that the show was truly over, and I may never have this chance again. My husband bought me a VIP pass I got to meet. Both actors take a picture with both actors and get signatures from both actors, the level of bravery for this public outing of my very private obsession. was epic, not only was the public going to know, but the actors we're going to know I have no chill. I prepared myself that I would cry. possibly. Throw up or pee myself and the glow. The glow is going to happen. The high pitched Voice GonNa Happen. But I went, and I waited in line with all the other fans just like me. I had my daughter dressed like Belle from beauty, and the beast as my buffer, and my husband was there to hold me up. We met Chilean I and she was so gracious. She had just turned fifty a couple of weeks before so I told her how I had a breakdown in her book got me out bed. I thanked her for giving me back my husband and daughter. We commiserated over being fifty. She was signing my book. Book and said I forgot how to write I joke back that it was okay because I forgot how to read. She then told us how she wants forgot how to drive. She had been driving for ten years at the time and gotten the car and just forgot everything. We shared some more stories like the time. I forgot how to throw one rob, and I were playing catch, and then I fell over sideways on the grass. And how molly wants forgot how to sit down? It was a great first meeting, and we made friends in line who we spent the rest of the day with we then went into the photo op, and had a picture taken with both Jillian and David later we met David and then went to their panel. We went back the next day, so my daughter could invite Jillian to her. Her play at Christmas I survived. I was so glad that I went I. Didn't Throw Up or pee myself I would have absolutely regretted not going for the rest of my life. I don't want anymore regrets I. Don't want to live small life anymore. I don't care what anyone thinks. If you love something your passion, the world needs more love and positivity. Don't hide what lights you up. Sometimes very caring your passion. Episodes of broken brave are released every Tuesday and Thursday thank you so much for listening, and for joining me on this journey of healing and growth. If you want to go deeper into the story and hear it from spouses, perspective, my husband, and I have a Patriot only show where we haven't extended behind the scenes discussion of every episode, which also post twice a week. Here's a sample of our latest to Patriot only companion podcast. Yeah and like okay, so then we're upstairs. Waiting in line for the X. Files Panel and. Mickey Rourke No. Really, this is going to be the story you'RE GONNA. Tell is name I love him. Michael Rooker Michael Rooker same thing I get their name. Thing Oh, he walks by, and he sees molly dressed in her bell and she looked. Your new so everybody sitting there knows him from guardians of the galaxy. If they don't already know on which we are dead, we're we're. He's walking by. He's like like he's like a rock star, comic. Just makes he just is going down the ignoring everybody going down. To Be Line for Mali of course, and and he and he says. He's like what princess are you and she's like bell and I elbowed her and I go. Ask him what Princess He is, and he starts you out. He's big tough guy. And he goes. Molly goes. He's Mary poppins and he goes going. Mary poppins yellow and I was like I haven't seen the movie, So yeah, so you know idea what that joke was but molly molly call Allie was dying on. It was funny. And then I'm tell the other part of that, so we had to wait in this line forever right and x-files bud light, and everyone's just sitting on the floor, waiting to go in or whatever and they said you know there's room in there. They're doing a guardians of the galaxy panel. With Michael, Rooker is in there and and this. This room held over three thousand people right. It was huge, so I go or molly does I'm going to go in, and of course we're such great parents, we letter. What could possibly go wrong in a room and everybody was three thousand people masks, and we bad like it was at wrong to send. What was she eleven? For a few minutes, and you're like you know no, emily or maybe. Hanley said Oh can out go in I'M GONNA. Go Find Molly and I'll go. Sit with her and I was like Oh. You're GONNA parent okay. You know paranoid you don't. Maybe it's a good idea. If if I go in there, you waited awhile, but when I went in I, go in. And they have a line for people to ask questions. Molly is like next. Yeah I ran back out a grab. The phone I ran back and I caught it just at the very beginning of her, asking a question, and she walks up and she's like I've got a question and Michael Rooker. I know you. It was so fantastic. It was awesome and we also great question. Of Mike drop at the end I mean. It was just so perfect. It was a great day it. Was a great day and I was so scared and I was so. Like. I! Don't know like in like in the moment I'm like I'm just going to do this. And I'm just going to have a conversation and I'm just GonNa, and then afterwards the adrenaline like it was just like. What did I just? Do you know like I can't believe I? Slipped into it, you wear with. The moment whereas before that I think. When. We'd gone things even meeting people you didn't. Slip into the moment now to hyper aware of what other people thought for aware of criticism and instead you just went. I, don't care I. don't care to meet Jillian I get to meet Dave and we're. We're at this thing. That's a once in a lifetime experience. All around something I love. and to me, it was just incredibly gratifying to see. And it was like for me. I wear I worry about. What am I gonNa Wear Oh my God. What is my hair going to like? What am I gonNA? Do like I'm fat. I'm this I met like whatever and I just sat there going. I don't like I can't care about it anymore. Right have to just go do after just. Totally totally did it totally deserves a place on your list. It was insanely brave. Yeah, it's one of those things that. I. I. Think for some people like if they hear it in the on the PODCAST, they may not understand how mountain monumentally huge this one. But as somebody who's been with you for so long to hear the rest of this episode get other exclusives become a patron broken debris at Patriotair Dot Com. You can also follow my blog at broken debris dot com, for even more insights and engaging content links are in the show, notes broken to brave as a production of southgate media. Group hosted and written by me Martha Southgate. Thank you so much for listening now. Go do something brave.

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How To Slice A Sicilian

The Industry

23:50 min | 1 year ago

How To Slice A Sicilian

"When filmmaker Michael Cimino passed away in two thousand sixteen at the age of seventy seven there were basically two stories that people focused on it's the two stories that everyone tells about Jimmy no I there is the high of his nineteen seventy eight picture the deer hunter an epic about three guys from Pittsburgh before stayed away Heaven's gate would end up grossing three point five Million Dollars Transamerica the parent company for United Artists who produced Heaven's gate he'd hated all the negative press they received from the film this would end up being a major reason why they would sell the studio to MGM which ended the long run to prefer telling this is about the movie he made right after the deer Hunter Heaven's Gate Heaven's Gate was another epic this time about the old West State's national film registry by the Library of Congress as being culturally historically or aesthetically significant in two thousand seventeen having had such a big hit previously Jamuna was given carte blanche and could do whatever he wanted and so he did conceived of the idea of what would become the Vietnam Veterans Memorial in Washington DC Yes that memorial with a memorial opened in nineteen eighty it was a very big deal then there's the other story that people like to tell about Michael Cimino and if you ask me it's the story of people seen American Film Institute named it the Fifty Third Best American film of all time after seeing the deer Hunter Jan scruggs a Vietnam War veteran I hours quickly became twenty which quickly became thirty and would end up being forty four million dollars after filming Cimino locked himself in an editing room and it would play for only one week and then get pulled after the reception to the film was less than positive third cut would get wide release five months later these shorter but still very long time of two hundred nineteen minutes that's over three and a half hours this is the version that would be initially released into the industry losing forty million dollars in being blamed for one five best picture best sound best film editing best supporting actor for Christopher Walken and best director Michael Cimino those are the two stories of my best director worst director but there's another story a third story if you will and I think it's and he had a torn down and built again he spent an entire day filming one shot over and over again he would end up shooting one point three million alien feet of film which is roughly two hundred twenty hours of footage for Heaven's Gate the budget balloon production went out of control eleven point six million wouldn't let anyone in until he was finished when he emerged as I cut of Heaven's gate was over five and a half hours long a second was made came in the United Artists as a major standalone studio and Michael Cimino would end up winning the nineteen eighty-one Razzie award or worst director in the production of Heaven's gate is much more well known than the film itself was given initially a budget of eleven point six million dollars by united artists and don't left alone Jamuna was meticulous filmmaker and when the slightest detail wasn't right he headed done again when a street wasn't built to his exact specifications it was the first time streep would be nominated for an Oscar the first of many in nineteen ninety six it was selected for preservation in the united do was on hand having been invited by scrubs the deer hunter was to me no second film after the modestly successful thunderbolt and lightfoot and would get so contentious it had to be settled in court in a story we're calling how to slice a Sicilian welcome to the a change someone being photographed reciting some lines the idea is to smash that wall it was a picture about a couple of low level gangsters he didn't like the screenplay and when his rewrites were going to take too long for mgm he left the picture next shots who also sometimes didn't know when to say when here's Jamir talking about his philosophy on filmmaking I don't believe in storyboarding he did direct the deer hunter and there was always a chance he could recreate that magic right he was attached to the nineteen eighty-four drama the Pope of Greenwich Village for a while copying two dimensional drawing piece of paper I want to be free in at three hundred sixty degree space I call it demolishing us that never existed when you think about it it's really no wonder that studios were still interested in you know even after Heaven's gate after all ending United Artists as an independent studio did not end Michael Cimino career Cimino was an interesting character sometimes brilliant filmmaker Keanae for the wall the average movie consists of about three hundred fifty setups three hundred fifty separate shots which have to be made most Camino was footloose the now iconic eighties movie about the small town that forbade dancing paramount wanted her roster direct but when Ross did those three hundred fifty shots will be close ups of faces talking heads and you're painfully aware that you almost as interesting my name is Dan Delgado within this episode we're going to take a look at Michael Cimino in the production of bid nineteen eighties mafia movie that around otherwise supersede him you want get to the real world after all you want to take over the third time would be the charm though for Tamino is next project would get finished he was hired by Dino de la Renta's too right and already check it out I hear it's pretty good the production of Year of the dragon was impressively problem-free Jimmy no proved to be very efficient by finishing the this brings us to the Sicilian the Sicilian began life as a novel by Mario Puzo set in the world of another Puzo novel the Godfather we'll be on time and on budget you care too much stanley everybody's rife chasing something that doesn't exist this is not the he comes back to New York and loses his soul Don Cornelio his father tells Michael He needs to find Salvatore Giuliano these kind of kills him the story then shifts Giuliano running around Sicily and getting in and out of trouble with the mafia even though the corleones are in the novel the Iran's Brooklyn New York Chinatown can be very easy like Candy S. making only about eighteen million dollars versus it's twenty four million dollar budget but it was a win for Cimino and that had helped to repair his reputation story is really about the Giuliano character a mafia novel by Mario Puzo the man who wrote the Godfather is too enticing for movie studios to resist Robin Hood who steals from the Mafia and gives to the poor something like that Michael needs to find Giuliano and bring them to New York before the local mafia finds him first and her in the Book and the Movie The Godfather you probably remember the part where Michael Corleone is hiding out in Sicily this book takes place just before Michael Academy award winning director of the deer vision paramount so it differently seeing the movie become more and more extravagant Vega a bit nervous and fired him you know then they went and paid her broth whatever Areso something essentially magical about them the words of my friend Bernardo Bertolucci you creating a nostalgia for the movie rights to the Sicilian sold for one million dollars to gladden entertainment paramount pictures owned the Godfather and the rights to all of those characters in April of one thousand nine hundred forty that cut would be a mere two hours twenty nine minutes and that was a disaster critics hated it and audiences dollars over a ten year period for this he would spend almost five years in jail but all that comes later for Bruce the other head of gladden entertainment with none of them would appear in the Sicilian but that was okay with gladden gladden had started as a production company in nineteen eighty four and was headed by Bruce Bicknell a colorful hundred comes a powerful and provocative New Year of the Dragon? The movie wasn't a box office success correct year of the Dragon a gangster picture starring Mickey Rourke Dealer Rentis you may remember for our episode the dealer Rentis Million Dollar giveaway if you haven't scandal when actor Cliff Robertson blew the whistle on Beagle men's embezzling while running Columbia Pictures we went over that story in the season one episode of the industry small roles were created or they were used as background extras but one way or another the local mafia was accommodated aside from that the production of the onto argonauts and a few resources in nineteen ninety-three he pled guilty to various fraud charges and admitted to bilking banks out of two hundred and thirty six million having it according to McConnell's autobiography he and Bingaman went to Sicily and met with them the issue wasn't money or respect or even test of negative Sicilian stereotypes nope their issue was that they wanted in they all wanted to be in the movie and they got what they wanted. insisted that Christopher Lambert be cast as the lead after all the movie is called the Sicilian and Christopher Lambert is French big lemon and entrepreneur who had made his money dealing rare and antique coins in addition to coins but now has also owned the NHL team the Los Angeles kings the CFL team the David Beagle men big amount spent his career in show business as an agent and running studios like Columbia and mgm in the Seventies Beagle men was caught up in moved to difficult to sign they turn to me now for four months to meet a worked on footloose he's still at Moore's a standard musical and began making changes too soon Cillian went off without a hitch the problem came wants to me a went into the editing room

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Iron Man 2 | A Marvel Cinematic Universe Rewatch

Post Show Recaps

1:40:28 hr | 1 year ago

Iron Man 2 | A Marvel Cinematic Universe Rewatch

"Hey there he is absolute pleasure welcome. Oh goodness gracious. Can we get the handcuffs off my friend here? Forgive me. I'm sorry. I'm such a huge fan of yours. I didn't WanNa make a first impression like this. He's a human being. I respect this fund financed Justin Hammer. Like the do some business with you. The world outside your window is not great but here in pusher recaps everything is super. This is the podcast dedicated to all things. Super Heroic. Presently focused on the marvel cinematic universal. Oh everybody I am Josh Wig. I am joined here by a man who much like Justin Hammer eats. Dessert I before anything else. Kevin Madeo in that famous sweet tooth of his. It's here's the thing when you become an adult at your own food. Are you coming adults? Yes you get your food or whatever order you decide. If you want to eat your dessert I is your right. It's an adult human. What's your what's your go-to desert before. What's your go-to sweet? Before save reeling. If you're going to get like a full cheesecake before you get into a chicken like how's this GonNa go? Oh my God I mean I love love cheesecake so I will eat cheesecake for any part of any meal. Really I would take that down tier masseuse another favorite sweet dessert that. I really like you like like the soft cakes I do. I do Especially like key Lime Pie. I'm more like I think. Eileen a little bit towards pie versus how about a strawberry cake or you will strawberries. I'm not I don't like strawberries. I'd that line by the way. That's that's one of the most underrated one. Because I felt that I felt that. Oh No that's me Kinda like letting you. There is a correlation. This is progress. I felt that deeply Kevin and I. We've already talked about how we took like that character quiz test and we both scored for Tony. Stark has like the one who is a marvel closest analog and that was a moment where I felt like I knew there was a correlation. Was ALLERGIC BREATH. Very capable. Highly capable of making that mistake absolutely. Yeah my sister-in-law is allergic to strawberries and one time. She went home for her birthday and her mom had strawberry cake for her in the fridge. Oh mom is worse than even what? Tony started to pots as long as you. Don't serve emily exit doing alright. No but she does love the bird all right well. Let's talk about this enough daily dying. Let's get into it. I run man to. We're up to our third movie here in the MC you were up to our first sequel here in the MC you so swiftly we return to the subject of Tony Stark and the poor palladium. That's rotting his core. As is raging narcissist is that has been reimb- used at him now that he is a world renowned as as iron man the best. What does he say is the greatest over of all time? Is there a better comeback story? Like I forget what he's saying. What he what he takes the stage. But which would extend is Robert. Downey junior right like that. That's what we kind of talked about this movie. In this franchise especially as a huge comeback for him in a great way so. I totally like He. Was channeling some personal stuff. And I think that's what makes this character. So great for them and the first big ironman scene in the movie is sort of like Marvel taking a bit of a bow. Iron man hit so hard and now here they are a couple of years later because it takes some time for so two thousand nine passes without a single marvel cinematic universe movie after iron man in two thousand eight and incredible hulk just a few weeks after that. And at that point it's like when Marvel's Aright stopdown were assembling the avengers. Let's come up with a plan. We're getting we're getting cat. We're going to stud some people into those movies so that they could show up in avengers but in order to clear the decks for that we got come back with another ironman too fast. Track THAT FAST TRACK. That ironman too. So it's been a minute since iron man's been on screen at the point where like this movie doesn't start here better. Defensively starts here with Tony. Stark taking a bow and it does feel kind of ceremonial for for Marvel itself. But is it an earned bow and this is the question that we are going to be at least a little bit talking through. I think here on this podcast is when you look at those. Mc You rankings. That all of us crazy people do. And that's one of the things that we are doing here on everything super were coming up with an official MC you ranking very scientifically but everybody has their unscientific ways of doing this. Or they're very personal ways of doing this and I think when you look at the rankings that a lot of people do certainly. I'm looking at yours right now. Kevin and I'm looking at mine. The one that I scrawled out at a bar right before vendors endgame came out and the one that you scrawled ahead of I think during the ironman release so we haven't even gotten as far as incredible hulk yet. You and I both have iron man to ask the second worst marvel cinematic universe movie and I think even at the time there was this feeling that ironman too is just like going through the motions and it was just here because you gotta get Tony Stark back in action and this is just like a boating. It in movie like this is just bullied. Not really worthy of the hype. This is just it's just there and as long as it's moving us closer to vendors as long as we're GONNA get thorn cat next like we'll see it through but like you're on thin ice here going back and revisiting. The movie Kevin is that reputation. Bear is the reputation that ironman too is like the second worst marvel cinematic universe movie. Is that fair? Is this movie really that bad or is the extra time to fund? Because that's the kind of sort of fun. This movie is actually kind of fun. It has great great moments and it has some really really dumb one incredibly stupid shit simply so stupid. Some very dated stuff as well. Tony Stark cancelled a very cancelable person. Here I think great to get Scarlett Johansson in the mix and get black widow in the mix but like some of the ways. She's handled in this. Not my favorite some dumb stuff birthday party. Whatever but like there's a lot of fun stuff here too and I think even a lot of the stuff that gets like remembered poorly. I actually think maybe is all right. I'm looking at you. Micky rourke okay. I think you're fine. I mean here. Like my rankings going to reflect because I do think. Mickey Rourke is great and there's a lot in here that made me really love. Mickey Rourke the character I think is great but we can get into that later chart I just I think certainly after coming off the incredible hulk is this movie. The second worst movie nephew. No no not anymore. I think we can all land on that one. We'll get to what we consider the worst and maybe that changes to. I don't know after ironman too. I don't know anymore. This is a pleasure to watch. And what a strange thing to say. I really didn't think it would. I thought like Oh here we go all right ironman too. I have this thing where like in my mind. Ironman too is just a bad movie. And then I go and I revisited in nine men to is fun and then I get away from iron man to again for a while and then like it just becomes a bad movie again in my memory and I revisited again. And it's still fun. This is what happened to me in my road to adventures endgame. I think this must have been in the days leading up to end game and so this was happening after I had done like that like quick notepad rankings of the movies by remember going back and watching ironman too and being kind of a blast and there's an added level of poignancy now to ironman too that has never existed for me and watching this movie until this week when I watched it because again just in case you don't know everything is super is a spoiler filled marvel cinematic universe rewatch podcast and we are talking about spoilers all the way through a vendors and game so if you care about that if you haven't seen those movies if you're trying to do this unspoiled checkout now. That's all the filibuster you're going to get. I'm about to spoil the major thing from vendors endgame which is that. Ironman dies actually dies in much of ironman too is about like. What is Tony Stark doing in the wake of like Terminal Diagnosis? And it's so fascinating to watch this this version of him kind of wrestle with that and maybe get some of those like party man playboy jitters out in this movie that allows him to mature and grow as a character across his are for the rest of the EMC you just never existed for me before washing ironman too and that's something that now does exist for me watching this movie absolutely and I think that we see a lot of call backs I mean. It is very clear. I think that the powers that be went back and re watched a lot of this to to pull certain things as they went on and the stuff with his dad especially I think is very pointy and very impactful knowing how this all turns out I mean you know. There's that line where he's saying. The Happiest Day of his of his dad's life was shipped off to boarding school in the. That's not true. And certainly now that we saw in game and we went and he went back in time to meet his dad as he's going home and worried about being a father. I think that scene becomes more powerful knowing these moments from ironman too. I think you know what you said is true. Though like it is a fun blast to watch and I think the difference becomes like. It's a fun movie but like whenever we look at it in a broader context always felt not important and not impactful enough. I think to an extent that is still true but the smaller moments of character moments occur growth moments the moments are necessary for Tony to have his huge huge character arc. Over the course of this entire. You know a four phase system is really or three days. I guess is is really big and important in Ironman too and setting that up and then there's some dumb software you have a birthday party but I do think it. It's better and it's more fun to watch. The rankings may not reflect it in into it's not gonNA be in the top ten for us but it certainly not the awards. No no yeah but I mean I think like even without looking at it. We're GONNA leave this podcast. Ironman ironman too incredible for sure. Yeah I think that's fair to say where we are at the moment spoilers for that but I think it's safe to say that but this did really have some great stuff. Some great great stuff. Speedway fight is fantastic. It's fun it really is. And it's also says a woman bird like apparently like I remember hearing that was just a real thing though I think. Mickey rourke himself wanted a bird the character which makes me laugh at that date one incorporated that like that that Meta commentary in a way because like that one of the most famous stories that came out of the Mickey Rourke was like my character should have a bird. Yeah all right so again. The great torbjorn frazier a great friend of the PODCAST. Here contributes some behind the scenes details every week. And of course your feedback always welcome super at Post Show. Recaps DOT COM is our email address. You can also tweet at us. At Po Show RECAPS AT ROUND. Howard is me calf? Mateo is Kevin and also by the way we've got our feet up our post show recaps. Everything is super specific. Feed is up so every get your podcast. You can subscribe directly to feed and if you do. Those ratings and reviews greatly greatly greatly great greatly. I don't even know if I could greatly another time without botching. The pronunciation of the word greatly appreciated as we were hoping to lure new. People to the PODCAST. All along the way but torbjorn frazier has a lot of these behind the scenes details. And says that yeah? A lot of whiplash is identifying features. Were suggested by Mickey Rourke. He wanted to perform half of his role in Russian. He consulted on the characters tattoos on his teeth as well as having the pet cockatoo in fact vork paid for the bird to gold. Teeth out of his pocket actually makes me feel a lot better. Part of me is like I love that. But what a nightmare must have been but it'd be paid for it himself. That's great the reverse. I almost be like marvel. You've got to put the bill on that. You GotTa make sure that bird a safe. Mickey Rourke to be responsible for your Ironman Tubert. I can think maybe want like some some corporate handlers involved in the handling of this living creature I mean yes oversight. I think is probably all right. Let's just assume Mickey Rourke also paid for that. Let's just give him the benefit of the data. This point lead also safer after paying for the gold teeth. I think it's I think that the the parallels between Tony Stark in Ivan Vanko are. It's something that's worth talking about here because that's a big piece of the movie. But I I think that in terms of where the actors are. I think it's also kind of compelling where Robert Downey. Junior has this huge renaissance with the success of iron man. He had been like to some extent in like Hollywood jail because he'd also been in literal jail and things were not going great for him and he had kiss Kiss Bang Bang and that was great. And that put him on the radar fabric and he gets Ironman and obviously man blows up and he so recognizable in that role and he's able to negotiate himself a really great deal something where he basically prices himself out to the extent that he's going to have to get killed off at some point many many movies later so he's doing. I'd ends up with a really great relationship with marvel and I think that bad allows him to renegotiate his deal for Captain America's civil war spiderman homecoming and movies like that but he ends up like with like a really huge deal. That like. Nobody like Chris Evans Chris Hemsworth. Nobody comes close to touching and simultaneously with all of this is all happening like around two thousand eight. Ish Right. Mickey Rourke who himself is something of like if you WANNA call the reformed bad boy or like just a bad boy who's having himself a bit of a moment. He's back in a way that he hadn't been in a while like he's Marvin Sin City. Who's not like a supremely iconic comic book character but if you're a sin city fan that's like the guy from the first city book and Mickey Work Brings Them to really life is a real hit. Certainly it's A. It's a huge in terms of its budgets in city had a one hundred and sixty million dollar box office on a forty million dollar budget which is wild eyed. Mickey work is a huge piece of that. That's when he gets the wrestler. Darren Aaron OPS. Keep movie that he was like a shoo-in to win an Oscar for and then along came. I believe it was Sean Penn as Harvey Milk in milk. That ends up. Ads like the Stealth Victor of the Best Actor award. After Mickey Rourke was cleaning it up at the Oscars that year. Now you think about what's making workup to right now. What's he doing what what happened from there examples three? He's in the bengals. I think he was just in but one I think he was. Just in the first expendable. I didn't. He was not in the other two showed up. But you might be right. No He's not in the other expendable 's he was in this movie immortals. I don't know if you saw that with with Henry cavill Ak Suu Kyi. I'm aware of mortals. Actually low key like that film even though it's not good news next week reprised his role as Marvin Sin City a dame to kill for which had a bigger budget than the first sin city sixty five million dollar budget and it made box office return of thirty nine point. Four million dollars so it doesn't go great for for Mickey Rourke and his career after kind of having this moment he's on this upswing and think about how that kind of parallels Vanko stark. I've in Vancouver. Father is like a big piece of the success of stark and he kind of gets thrown to the side he gets like a bad dose of bad luck and then he just gets like grinded under the fist of life and here comes his son. Who's trying to like a reshape? His father's legacy in a way. That ironman is trying to reshape his family legacy as well. And I think it's a sort of a fascinating thing in the ways in which that's being mirrored by the performers too and their and their careers. Not like any of that intentional. But I just think that that is there as some subtext. And if that's like the kind of subtext that you like when you're when you're watching a movie like an ally conforms your your view of film that maybe read a movie like I. I do sometimes because that's definitely on my mind. I'm watching Mickey Rourke bring whiplash to life this time in a way that I hadn't really considered that before but that's like a very big piece of the characters. This person who like who who was a should have been a star like should've been like king of the ring and something else happened in. That rivalry is playing out across IRONMAN. Too and it's not even necessarily like the big centerpiece of the movie but in terms of that dynamic between those two characters. That's there and I appreciated it more this time than I have before. I think you are correct. I think there's a lot in there. That's really interesting about the character and how they approached it in that way but on the other hand. I feel like this is to the incredible hulk where I'm like that is really interesting and deep fascinating. I wish there was more delving into that. Like the same way that Emil Blondes. Have he had just like the bare minimum of it? I think they should have invested a little bit more into developing that because that would made it an interesting character a more interesting character to more dynamic villain than what we ultimately ended up with which was a great performance for Mickey Rourke but a villain that didn't shine through tonight. Think part of it is is what you said. I think there is more of a death of of pathos a NATO so you could have had that focus on to get a little bit lost because like this movie reminded me a lot of the problems with Woodville in sometimes in movies and especially marvel movies to have me go off on a not not a random famous Kevin thing. I'm GonNa talk about writing. Even I'm not a professional writer yet but villains are important and stories and a good adage people follow. Is this idea that the villain should be a reflection of the hero and that is accurate. Yes but I think what happens sometimes is unfortunately you end up in situations where people just take that a little too literally and you end up with Ovadai stain you end up with whiplash you end up with yellow jacket you end up with these villains who are basically just well they have the same powers as the hero except they're bad and the reason for being bad are sometimes surfaced sometimes miniscule and instead it's just oh the hero fights I quote unquote dark reflection but it's not that I think what it really is should be and I think what gets lost in translation often is that it's not a reflection necessarily to the point of having the same powers at it it's a part of the hero psyche or a part of their personality amplified to a degree of darkness as a way of putting it and to make a comparison one of the most famous arguments about Batman villains that I do support tune extent is that each of them should reflect a part of him taken to a man. Yeah yeah part of Batman taken to a bad degree right. So joker is chaos and insanity that does exist small part of Batman the desert crazy. That's that part of it. We have racial ghoul. Who is Batmans hardcore planning? His strategy that exists in racial cool scarecrow as his fear. Each of these characters have these aspects. Batmans personality is taken to a different degree. It's even reflected and should be if you're my favorite character superman. The best way to look at Superman villains. Is that right lex? Luther is superman humanity taken to a dark degree. That's the worst thing that humanity is Lexi with Mr Missile Plex. I actually have an answer for that. That Superman God hood people talk about Superman. Being God a person able to do anything mixed put like is absolutely that he's a god able to do anything taken to a degree. Brainiac IS ALIEN ASPECT GENERALS ODD. Who does have as mimic of power? Is His tony in the group. Tony inside of Superman take into a bad degree. Each of them have a unique aspect of superman of people comment on but shown to be a reflection dark reflection of it. They don't just reflect his powers but part of his psyche and they can have powers but that's an amplified to the first. Which is this and I think what gets lost in Translation. Here is exactly that what you said? Brilliant part of taking that part of the psyche that could be twisted and done with but instead we end up with a final fight that's ironman versus a bunch of iron man would real no real emotional stake shares pathos behind it. And that's a fault. We see a lot in these stories and I think the best villains do that. Well the ones that stand out in marvel do it well. Thanos is a great example. Dan says a universal villain but ultimately he wasn't ironman villain and what he represented. Is Tony Stark's ego because Thanos Antonio the same person? Because Thanos was convinced he knew what was best for the future and he knew what was best for humanity other people say otherwise. Be Damned and Tony felt the same way. Tony made the same arguments and civil war. And that's what makes them so interesting and dynamic and not also mentioned Thanos. Has this magic power. We're Tony as tech. Based there's a lot there that worked really well for those comparisons those characters and white then is way better villain at the end of the day is because he reflected something Tony that we got to see take into a bad degree. So that's my rant on villains. Doom take a little bit thought into that. Don't just follow the surface level adage of dark reflection really think about what it means to have your villain and what it represents. You don't always have to do it that way. They don't seem to be a lot more. But if you're doing the basic approach try that really delve into it and think about what the aspects of your character psyche isn't how you could use that to your advantage and so do not see any of that in whiplash and Justin Hammer in this. Do you do not see like whiplash. Both Whiplash Justin Hammer to me. If I'm trying to map that ethos to them as they pertain to ironman would both be fairly similar of like both of them like or May. Maybe it's whiplash. Has the stark genius but not the backing not the success and maybe Justin Hammer a modicum of the stark success but none of the genius to yes to an extent that is there but again it's so surface level to it right like he has a genius but not success. How has that really affected him in his motivations because that doesn't necessarily align with this aspect of like I wait for for also the idea like make God bleed. That's actually something that we see. Baron Zemo who is actually one of my favorite villains and the MC you because his motivations were similar to basically tear down these heroes and show the world we do let us they do a similar thing with with. Is it baron. Zemo or helmet in zero Is it zero? What what's his name again? Zemo Zima Zima. Yeah drink but with no but like they do the thing with him that they're trying to do with whip lashings that they make it a lot more emotional and better exactly because they had a connection to the hero in a way that that fit that character and I think again like it's there but we don't really see how that influences decision and what he ended up with. Justin Hammer is like. Oh Tony the warmonger. But we did it. It wasn't developed in that way like that characters entire motivation just like I got embarrassed by Tony and I want to do better and make robots can you be at Sam Rockwell? He's one kid. He's eating his ice creams and buy everything though is like it's also they do. There's one moment where you're just like. This is why this character isn't as good as Tony. Stark and his dumber is because he's just like no drones aren't what we want people in suits and I'm like drones are better. You don't have a person in a suit on the time you're trying to take away their jobs Kevin by God but after like they had like the video of like the one person in the hammer has broken in half basically that guys alive. What condition right. What did you do to that man? And that could be again. That could be interesting aspect of like what is what is Tony. The businessman had he stopped caring about human collateral right. That could be interesting. But you have some Rockland road who I love. But he's not the actor who's going to portray that aspect of it or be written to it and say you have dancing on on stage which I love my name right now is just in hammers dancing. Also I'm pretty convinced Sam Rockwell hasn't his contracts. He has to dance every movie I think he does. It's very good but like it's not you lose those aspects of it and I think you know it's it's it's starting to be there but they don't delve into enough but also when you have two villains right when you have two villains and you don't delve into each of them enough you end up in a very muddled muddled water heater man three. This is a movie that's trying to do a lot. And there's a lot riding on this movie. This is the movie that's like getting us back in on the track of like. Well we're here. We are twenty ten. We're going to have ironman too. We're GONNA have thorn later in the year next year. We're going to have cap in the year after that. We're going to have the avengers like we're here. It's happening and there's a lot on iron man to as a safe bet that people are gonna come and see this move makes more money than the original iron man. It's got a report at two hundred million dollar budget. It makes in. Its opening weekend most of that back where a lot of that back anyway. One hundred twenty eight million in it's opening weekend worldwide. Six hundred twenty three ish million dollars so it's a really safe bet. They know what to expect from iron man at this point. They know that they're going to get money. And they know that this has got to be the place where they need to start building some some stepping stones towards what they hope will make a shit ton more money boy does it then boy does it pays off but maybe at the expense of coherency here in Ironman too. Because it's not just that ironman Scott these bad guys here in Justin Hammer and whiplash. Who are barely on his radar for much of the movie. You know he's really fighting himself for so much of it and then the whiplash in Justin Hammer stuff while can be really fun. That's mostly a credit to Mickey Rourke and to Sam Rockwell than it is to the ways in which they are necessarily interacting with Tony Stark. This is also going to be where you're going to get like your Captain America's shield Easter Egg. And that's what I needed. This is also going to be where Samuel Jackson returns nick fury in a bigger way and is trying to push. Tony towards the avengers. Then like that kind of takes its own little turn. And there's also a lot of you to see Scarlett Johansson shows up as black widow here and there's a part of the Natalie Russian Natalie rush men at the Russian great alias I. I'm so happy that we're getting to talk about black widow but like bad like thank God. They have the vendors pretty quickly after this guy. It's just I mean I'm honestly glad they did the review. Can you imagine if we went this movie without knowing that was black widow but her nine Russia? This is like. There's no world where they were going to do that. But like everything else that we come to know about black widow unless like this is just how lowly they think of Tony Stark. We'll just hi Natalie. Rush men in sight but they're serving a lot of masters is the point. They have to like Admiral Iron Man to to further Tony Stark adventure and I think that is the most successful is where they're dealing with like the characters that were already on the table. Rhody is maybe not my favorite in this movie. Even though I I I definitely re watching the so quickly after the first ironman. I'm very happy with Don cheadle. I think that he's great. I think the story is like a little bit wanting for me but like the banter between him and are deejays obviously really really really great. The pepperpot story like obviously Tony and Pepper. The strawberry things just hysterical the moment where he makes her CEO. I really loved that. Seem quite a bit. And she's she's just really good in that role I think a really underrated component of the MC is is just her performance in these in these two movies and even in three. I think that she's just very funny when she needs to be. But she's also very human and I think that the movie is most successful when it's like when it's just trying to advance the ball and some of that stuff that they set up in the first one a lot of Tony's arc across the is sort of him dealing with PTSD. And how does he live with the trauma of what happened to him? How he got injured him reckoning with like what his life's work has done to other people across the world and then him kind of reckoning with like well who am I now and if the movie ended in this provocative way last time with iron man and he's adding himself as a superhero. Like here he is dealing with a different shade of Messiah Complex. I think is is a great way of pushing in deeper on the most provocative moment of the first movie but to do all of that and then to have a bad guy that's going to accurately reflect then push that further while also having second bad guy that's going to be a piece of that while also having like a ventures track that needs to be laid. You're asking for a lot and Lopa hind the scenes. On this one that I think is is worth highlighting first of all this movie screenplay credit gets credited to Mamand Justin theroux Ince Aka Kevin. Garvey of the leftovers is a really great writer in his own right. I think he's either the sole writer or co writer of Tropic Thunder. Just throw who. I really badly wanted to be doctor. Strange wants to be interesting. He would have been awesome but whatever. Hopefully there's still a role for Justin theroux in the in the future unless he has like one of those blink and you'll miss it cameos but this was. This was a movie where there was a lot of behind the scenes woes. We talked about terrence. Howard priced himself out. Samuel Jackson nearly doesn't return is not. He's not going to return unless he gets more screen time. The screen time is threatened to give him more screen time. They also sign him to like this huge nine picture deal which. I don't know where we're at on that at this moment in time I would. I would have to stop down and look at some nathen. Figure that out and do some number crunching. Has He satisfied that contract as he has done a new contract? There is some friction with Fabio with Jon. Favreau with them Having him rewrite the script going obviously because they want to have that self with like there's some business in New Mexico you think you're my only priority stark. You don't even know what's happening New Mexico but you will in two months. The war hits theaters. So there's just there's there's like that kind of stuff that's happening. I think is souring a few people in the marvel process and wonder what how much of that is paramount. Or how much of that is Pearl? Mutter who is the guy at the forefront of marvel at the time and we don't need to do the big historical deep dive into who that guy is for people who don't know who promoter is other than to say he's bad he's bad and he's not he's not running the shit anymore that's now it's a full foggy thing for the most part. All of this stuff is throwing around so the fact that the movie ends up being as fun as it is while having some moments that are just kind of like bomb is kind of success that to my mind. All things considered in the same way that like a lot suddenly riding on incredible hulk and they're now trying to buy kind of like force feed. They're trying to turn like the incredible hulk liver into Wa Gras. They're trying to do the same thing here with ironman too of like funneling it with like all this rich. Mci Connectivity Stuff. The fact that all of that happens definitely like makes the thing heavier and more bloated and is not a contributing factor to the stuff that I like about the movie but the reason why this works better than incredible hulk for me is for the same reason why with all of this sort of like bootstrap ways in which iron man in incredible hulk came together like this alchemy of Fabbro and Robert Downey Junior. And I'd say Gwyneth Paltrow in the mix there to all of that just like swirls together in a way that incredible hulk does not and that is still the stuff that swirls together really well here in iron man two with the added benefit of Don Cheadle as an actor I think like I do think that the chemistry between him and Tony is really great like that. Final fight scene. Where like I think the three movies and you and I have to try and get on the same page here. 'cause we're doing our informal final battle rankings. Along the way here Kevin. I think this is the top so far. I think that and I think that it's mostly because like there's really great friend. Banter between Tony and Rhody and that's largely because Don. She does a really good actor. I don't agree I I don't know it's the final battle I think whiplash shows up. It does but even so it's up in the night. Kill him five seconds. It's like five seconds. You are so smart. You were doing this everything you were doing up until that moment was great like you just wanted to make God bleed. Your ambitions were were so humble all you want to do publicly humiliate Tony. Stark and hurt him a little bit and show other people that yeah he's fouled when you can go after him. You were happy to live a life out in prison after that. And then you get broken out in your hand and opportunity and Justin Hammer thinks that he can seduce with with finer things and dessert for dinner and Mickey Work Decided. Like I'm just GonNa make them think. I'm some dumb Russian. He's like he's playing really well and then he's got. The drones turned on everybody. And that's really great too. But then he shows up then he goes to the battlefield. No don't do that. That's how you're gonNA get yourself killed. And he gets killed and five seconds and it makes sense because he's up against Iran and proceed with thousand. Gatling guns yeah. No it is ridiculous and that is such an anti climatic moment but even before that I mean. It's again ironman finding drones which shirt whatever but one it suffers from what? I have said before were to that. Final battle. Didn't matter where it took place. I mean the the set of the Disney experts. I mean the world. I mean the Tony Stark was. It didn't really play into it enough. It didn't really factor into the especially since they were flying around elsewhere as well. The speedway is way way way. Better refined piece. I think for sure this movie yet comparatively and like I think you get a better setpiece it. With the fight we warmonger in the first one. It wasn't a great one but I think it ultimately was better as a set piece battle the Banter yes. I agree and as we'll see in the marvel films. The Banter between these characters are going to be what carries a lot of it especially during the fights enhances it. I think they hit the balance and amazing way of course during avengers but of course Joss Weeden is known for his banter especially during action pieces and between characters but that also comes around too. I think you're right. There's a lot of problems with this film in terms of the glomming. A lot of stuff together but the thing that holds up and I think the thing that does especially well are the characters in their performances. I mean the problem with incredible. Hope this mishmash of alchemy is also that I don't think the characters and the performances were there enough because the characters weren't have enough of a personality. Meanwhile you really. We knew already J. Right like we knew pepper but I will say pepperpot. Mvp For this movie for me like we give goop a lot. You know a lot of backlash for her rightfully so in real life crazy or today but as an actress. She's great the way she's like freaking out a speedway seeing the way she's freaking out the end. I think she does such a great job. And Gwyneth paltrow definitely given. Mvp Credit for this movie. Even though it's a movie with a Great Mickey Rourke and a Great Sam Rockwell. Her all the way that said you also get black widow introduction to the character that really hits exactly who that character is throughout this movie and we kind of glossed over. But this is the first nick fury really like before he was there for a hot second but this is the first time Samuel Jackson. Playing that character plays that character perfectly. Like brabin actually was watching it and she's like Oh yeah. It didn't even occur to me that this first time really doing it. Because I'm just so used to being like net nick fury. But he was nick theory out the gate in a great way personality delivery attitude. Everything was there for that character and I commend that I also. I really can't blame him for wanting to be contract and having more screen time because a last course get to the last man but not even that the last passionate franchise that man did that he heard about star wars. He loved Star Wars that he got cast in this role he got screwed in such a bad ways. Like can't blame them for being a fan comics still alive alive. You don't see the body Dizzy PLA I mean I would watch the hell out of Like Brussel hands is such a base. Do Fan but rustling feathers but like it is crazy that or it's not crazy that he wanted a better approach for this character because they know Jackson's famously comic books happen loans is the best hours worst. Are You Russell Hands? Also by the way I do have a comment to throw out there because everything that Mickey was doing he showed up and he had that toothpick and I was like. Who's he wendell like? What is happening here? Yeah that's the new winners at it but it didn't out for whiplash. Unfortunately he's ahead of his time was out of a window. God Wendell's like I like that and he fully co-signed on the nick fury of it. All A SCARLETT JOHANSSON AS NATALIE. Rush men AK Natasha Romanov Aka. Black widow was very nearly not natalie. Rush Maneka Natasha Romanov AK black widow. Do you know this way. I remember this very well so I am too. I think I maybe have a little bit of like a softer spot in my heart for ironman too because at United talked about how the MC you is sort of like our adult star wars like this. The movies started as you and I were like at the outset of our careers so young adults just out of college and now these movies are happening and they'd like to find my adulthood which is a totally different experience than something like Star Wars which defines your childhood for US anyway And not even the cool ones unfortunately unfortunately the prequels but I was I was. I was working as a freelance writer. At this point in time two years beyond our days together Wizard magazine Kevin and at this point in time I am a writer for MTV splash page. Which is the Superhero movie blog? Where it was the superhero movies. Were such boom now after iron man and after Dark Knight and everything like that that it was all superhero. All the time and there was like a full vertical created for it over an MTV news. And I was one of Tho- the lead writers over there and so I was covering iron man to very aggressively like anytime. There was a casting announcement ironically enough for me. Anyway ultimately a typically unlike the Hollywood reporter it'd be linking out to them all the time there was this big song and dance about casting in the MC you like. Who's going to be or WHO's going to be Steve. Rogers who are these people going to be and for black widow? It was fairly set in stone for a while. I think that it was gonNA be Emily. Blunt was going to be black widow and then she had to withdraw because of her pre existing conflict with the twenty ten movie co first travels. Jack lack one to bring it back to a survivor reference. Yeah Jack Right that. I don't want to talk about that survivor. Sophie Clarke judging this news very harshly soapies reaction though is so perfect just has obviously done totally fine in her life in in a very good way and it's not impossible that we will someday talk about Emily Blunt as somebody in the MC you shall we just be like Super Cool and join the bandwagon and caller shot here. Is We're recording in April twenty. Twenty April Twenty Second Twenty Twenty S. We're recording this. Yeah obviously I'M WE BLUNT. Krinsky are going to be invisible woman and mister fantastic. Like that's absolutely what's going to happen? It should be and it's actually really fascinating interesting because John Krasinski was also marry. Yeah cats in America's okay magin rewards test. He he was right there he was right there and then it fell apart in Chris Evans came in. And we'll talk about that in a couple of weeks. Yeah we'll talk about it in a couple of weeks have been great to see. It would've been interesting. We would've got that ahead of time that said if we lost out on that so we could get we blend in John Kuczynski as Rian Sue. I mean worth worth it. In my opinion I think that would on that hard to imagine. Black widow has anybody other than Scarlett Johansson who has already very famous person at the time in is like a good get here but like this is a star making turn for her. This is going to lead her to a bunch of like these big action roles that she has a lot of the Oscar buzzy success that she has beyond this as well some of the unsavory thing I was gonna say she also say a real dumb stuff in real life but just as we're GONNA hold that against Goop for purposes of the character and the aggregating she's great. We can graders that character. Get INTO THAT OFF. Line as much as you'd like hit us up on that it's hard to think of that character without Scarlett Johansson and yet like I. I think it's because like she is really treated very much as I can be here. She's just sort of like she's talked about as a sexual harassment lawsuit in making by by peppered. Tony the way that Tony is treating her. You're looking back on this ten years down the line in our modern moment. A lot of this does not play very well. I don't know how great played even at the time. What's your take on going back and revisiting? The black widow origin story is sadly still many months away. Even though as we're recording this it should just be like a couple of weeks away. But this is the first black widow citing in the and she's going to go on to be a foundational player. I mean it's it is. It is awkward and weird and you know problematic. I mean like you said Tony. Stark is a problematic character in terms of his womanizing for sure. It is a bad trait of his for absolately. I do think though to an extent it does establish what that character is capable of in terms of using that part of her to her advantage. I mean we see it in avengers when she's you know pretending to be this weak willed person against Loki when they're conversing and she's just like I it you gave me what exactly I need to know so I think in a similar circumstance for us is that to her advantage in terms of engraving ourselves. Finding out information she needs. You know infiltrating you know she basically type person. Tony Stark is and use that to her advantage to accomplish a goal she wanted to do. Tony comes off looking bad. When she comes off looking like she needs to be a black widow so that aspect. I think does still work. You know we're not. It's hard because I think people look at Tony Moment and are still like. Yeah Tony Stark. As opposed to like probably not great I mean we read it though right and he has to. I think character growth is important. That includes bad traits. Like I think Tony becoming a better person. Even in that regard is important and I think too that he does. This goes on so I think it works in black widow. She has great moments in this her flipping happy Hogan over immediately. Her favorite move by the way she does that. Move all the time. They'll like the leg flip. She doesn't the person who enjoys subduing somebody by choking them out with their legs. More than Jack Bauer. Who also loves this move quite a bit yes? Zana on atop from. That's right that's right. Jensen Big Fan of hers by the Russians. Yeah right what it is and Jack Lower but I get Jack Bauer. He lives in Russia now rested them as always arrested in the not arrested. Keeper wants to do it again. That's where he is. But yeah it's it's it's yeah. I think it works well another thing though I have to say is we did jump over it but I gotta point out this line before I forget again but roadies introduction with Don cheadle of what is the quote. I wrote it down here. But he's essentially just like me. I'm here to move on great like just gloss over of that recasting and I thought was really really smart and really funny so I had to call that out before forgot it because I remembered road and I was like. Oh that's another character introduction where there was surprise right that it's got throw his really funny guy. Even if Kevin Garvey didn't necessarily portray that often enough on on the leftovers he's a very funny. Guy Tropic Thunder Barrow and already Jay had already kind of cleared this lane. Shane black once again consulting with these guys he really is like the natural successor for iron man. Three it really just kind of in a lot of ways come full circle with him taking the helm but like Don cheadle is a very funny actor. The whole Senator. Stern's stuff with Gary Sham. The lay shandling rest in peace. Hail Hydra that whole scene is really good. Thank me I have successfully privatized world. Everyone like going nuts and bleeping out at you buddy esther stark. Great Wrecking Tony. At the end. When he's awarding him is it's interesting. How much damage a little prick and do Yup It's a very funny movie. It's a great movie and we're seeing though the change right because iron one had moments but it did. Have I think the the beat of moments that we get in this hulk had very few? I think this is really now. We're starting to see what the mcat is going to become with these lighthearted moments and these these kind of fun aspects of the series of films that really shines through in Ironman too disjointed. Because there's a lot of dramatic stuff because he's also dying and you have the the FO demon in a bottle storyline which we gotta talk about that at some point but you get it you get those comedy beats and they work really well because again we've chemistry of the cast and we get that play like even something as simple as like Natasha taken all these guards than happy taking one being like God of like scrape. Those Romans are really fun and really great I think bring bring the right amount of Lebanon. Lebanese films set some setpiece stuff. So we talk about the end fight. Do you WANNA say anything more about the Monaco race. Because you really love that and I it just just looked cool like even. The stark racing uniform is really cool. Start racing uniform is really cool and I take. Your work is able to get that gear past security. How did he not get the hailed by Mel Detectors? I mean I don't know this is like Oh okay. You're really bulking out there. Well he's a mechanic for right like say this. I don't want to judge like your body shape. This brick and weird man like but Elon. Musk gave it to them. We saw was there this special technology that I wanNA talk about you. So you know he. He got in there yes shirts. We're but that's like one of those things we allow for villain movies villains movies all the time but like the action two speedways. Great again it takes. It takes advantage of the set pieces to create a dynamic fights in that really fit. And honestly that's my shot of the movie is is whiplash walking down the burning off at him. Walking on the speedway as cars go by. I think I called it the trailer money shot and it is. It's the one they had in the trailer and I just liked the visuals of it. I love the briefcase suit. That's really cool. I mean the movie is still rocking at this point. It's Super Fun. You have an amazing action sequence where he fights him and it lasts longer than the last two seconds. We see at the end the end fight. You have pepper being great. You have him splitting apart that Limo case armor I remember at the time it was like. Oh Shit suitcase or from the comic book it is. This is what you can do with. Ironman which pod. It's great and I think all that works so well so that's why like that. Scene For me is a stand out of this film and I think it was done really really well. Unfortunately you also follow that up with an anticlimactic at the end but in terms of action pieces. Yeah those are the two good ones or not even good. That's a good one. Then you have the okay one at the end. Then you have the one in the middle with. Yeah so talk me. It's like this is the point where Tony it's his birthday and like he's got paladium poisoning he's going to have to concoct a new element in order to cure is that they don't say but that's vibration neom right vibration at Amancio him that he invents. It's crazy that they never really talk about that. I feel like maybe someone will correct me but like no way because vibe radium already. A big deal in Kanda and everything. It is but we didn't have access to it. So if Howard. Stark new vibrating existed. But he could. He knew that he couldn't make cap. She'll out of Iranian because they didn't have enough of it and he wanted to recreate it to make cap she'll eventually he would have the element he would be able to break it down but he can't make it so. I could see that being them trying to create a version honestly. It could be great if it's like. They tried to replicate by radium. They can't because what Kanda has. And you just can't replicate it and now that's a Mansi them and actually anthem into this interesting feature. Black Panther story line a con contributions of vibration technology or rejected because Justin Hammer. Who has since been bailed has figured out a way to develop by brain because he has stolen Tony's methodology from ironman too. What a way to bring back Justin Hammer though bring back Justin Hammer. Come and says he's being taken away so you haven't seen the last semi it's like well so far. Yeah we have this visit he ran. There's a great youtuber. I really like called Nando. V movies who does a lot of breakdowns of Superhero films? I really liked that guy stuff. I think he's very smart and very clever writer. He actually does. He does these rewrites and he did a rewrite of Justice League. That is so goddamn good. It's insane I did like God. Damn I wish again. What's his name Nando and A. N. D. O. V. Movies? And he does. He's doing or he did. And I'm so the defenders where Justin Hammer is a big part of that and they think oh he wanted to bring hammer back and I think the way he does it in defenders as clever but yeah he should come back and I think he can be brought in interesting ways. I think the Tony Gone and like now that there's like a vacuum and we got to see a little bit of that and far from home. The attempt that with with Jake Joan Hall as I think it there could be still stories about iron man's legacy and like a great friend of mine very recently on. Apoe show recaps podcasts. Said nature abhors a vacuum. So they're going to try. Fill the void there. And could you see? Could you see like Justin Hammer taking on like the Norman Osborn role from some of the comic books where he was Iron Patriot right? I know that we already do iron patriot. To a certain extent in iron man three but can you imagine Sam Rockwell in an iron man suit painted in red blue and white and trying to make his mark on the world. That way. I just there's a lot of possibilities to San Rockwell's obviously the man Justin Hammer's very thinly written but like richly portrayed because Sam Rockwell's just very funny and having a graph that whole thing is like the Cuban that they and the fact that the thing doesn't work at the the wife is just tremendous. I can imagine that especially with that. Iron Patriot armored then just starts dancing in very very unique. Look good miserable. That gets us back on. Yes with another sequence and other set piece I know we wanted to talk about which is and I agree with you and I think I texted this the other day when I was watching it. Ironman to bopping. It's bond. There was some stuff that feels a little dated. It's great at least he's not using the flip flow phone really like a little bit of advancement of technology and like things are cooling. Things are fun and then Tony. Who's dying wants to have the best birthday party. Ever and so he gets wasted and throws a huge party in his ironman suit and Rhody comes over and he's like enough and he goes out stairs. Fulfils the terrance our destiny. The prophecy is fulfilled into the mark to armor and another one bites. The dust is just bumping as iron man vs machine Iran. Even names of Mike. You want to be the warm machine man. No movie you're great. You're losing me Josh. We don't like joy is it that we don't like fun things or is this just not that fun. It's not that fun. I mean there's a couple of things that are wrong in this scene. I think one thing that does make sense is Tony's destructive self behavior. He's a narcissist. He's an ego driven dude. Who found that? He's dying so of course as lashing out. It's going to be completely selfish and you know not really paying attention. Caring about other people and causes destruction. That part makes sense. I wish they had built it up just a little bit more especially because they were trying to mimic demon in a bottle which is arguably Thomas. Experts famous story ARC because in comics was an alcoholic and this leads him down a spiral so they're trying to mimic that happening. But then you have this fight where it's just in his house. Everything's being broken. People are all around and they're just using objects that like it's the setpiece done wrong. It's the opposite of the speedway it's the opposite of using the set piece too much. I think and it just doesn't work and it wasn't even that they were fighting to another one bites the does. If I'm not mistaken they were fighting. It takes two. Which Ho boy does not work? I mean that's become a thing as we have discussed a lot about using music unnatural music and fight sequences but help enhance it. We see that too successful degree and then we see that too sometimes trying to make it to fault t degree. There's one show but I know I know exactly. You know what I'm talking to talk about it. Yeah that's fine WANNA. Yuck anybody's young 'cause I know people like I don't WanNa Yuck anyone's the umbrella yeah. People people love it but this doesn't work. The music doesn't fit. It's not right that the scene is very odd. It's not paste well and you just have these this thing where these two people fight each other to the point where it just doesn't work or make sense even because it's like when here's fight heroes. It rarely can actually make sense. It's a hard thing to pull off and to have two people like this fighting each other is also just so dumb and immature and you're just like what am I watching. Why is this happening? There's no this no amusement or fun to it. There's no like tension really in this moment so it was a very problematic. Silly nonsensical seen. That just doesn't work and it sucks because that's the that's pretty much the mid point of the film when things start turning around for Tony in a bad way you know. He's at his lowest low. And then you do get some good stuff does feel. It is forced right you. That's when the shield stuff comes in but those scenes at least I thought picked back up your your at this point where you're just like God. Damn these two characters right now in. This fight is so Blah underusing smashing Asana and they blow up like what is what is happening but then you have no fury show up. You Have Natasha. Being just like I'm the widow. Hello you have Colson. Showing up you have these great catches and dynamic moments and character interactions. I do think pull it all back up. You didn't get some real weirdness about the like. Hey here's a new element with his Disney Dad. Funny he about A Tony Stark. Making a new element if we're not also going to be mad about him like creating vision and I'm the MC you ends up getting like mega comic bookies. So he's just GonNa make an element like is it almost like it's it's not like comic bookie enough that he's making a new element that he's making a new element in his basement. I think we weren't ready for it. I think I think honestly now it works fine like it's the thing we were like. Yeah all right but like we haven't had rocket rocket raccoon grew yet so our viewers. We ready for something like that. I mean it's it's the least like one of the lease agreements things of that movie. It is weird again. I feel like it's a plot point that happens and I'm like Because like dude he invents time machine later on and it's totally like married like you know. We got to accept the fact that he invented the time machine in endgame while he's in a cabin find with the dawn fine with that and ultimately. I'm fine with this element making aspect. I just wish if you're GONNA make an element it's got up into something that's got to meet that needs to combat. That's where that adamantine or something used to come into effect with this moment because it's such like a holy crap moment he invent something incredible but then we never talk about it now. Incredible last week wasn't incredible was at though. Let's dig into some feedback and that'll help guide us through the rest of this and then if there's anything we feel like we've we've left on the floor. I know this is a little more scatter brained than than we've done in the past actually like this. I think it's fun to kind of just like Cherry. Pick around these movies so this may be the way certainly the way of it today. Let's do some community refuse some reviews from the listeners of iron man to in let's start with with Edwin who wrote in and said hot take but I liked Ironman to more than I amen. That take is scalding hot. It's hot take but there are ways in which like I think some of the highs of iron man to are higher than the highs of Ironman one that's crews are much lower. Exactly I think were on more of a rollercoaster. An Iron I inconsistent quality. Yes and to get real high and then some another one bites the dust Daniels. Strong professors strunk. The movie is entertaining in its individual. Bits and pieces but I think it failed to combine into a compelling cohesive. All my two cents is that it tried to do too much. Think of all the different storylines one. There's Tony's blood toxicity problem to their shield assessing Tony for the avengers three. There's Tony's romantic storyline with pepper. Or there's Tony's daddy issues by the US. Government is trying to take. Tony's suits six. Justin Hammer Hates Tony. Stark and seven whiplash. It's just too much very wise words from professor strunk. I think that is indeed the assessment but the entertaining and it's individual bits and pieces the piece that I keep coming back to our Mike. It's more entertaining in its individual bits and pieces than I remember it is. The pieces are very entertaining which we even skipped over the fact that it's now cash John slattery as as as Howard stark who does just the greatest Disney impression that the expo video. I'm like Oh my God. It's Disney like literally shot for shot posters on the wall and everything. I thought that was very amusing. Especially since they weren't bought by Disney at all right. So let's let's keep digging in from west making you keep bringing this up. Kevin. So let's talk about it a little bit more. West writes in. I'M GONNA assume that they're trying to evoke the demon in a bottle storyline from the comics. Urine Ironman too and that were supposed to sympathize with Tony because he's dying from paladium poisoning but I still felt like it was like having to deal with wine Harry Potter from the Half Blood Prince again in the book almost willing to root for Volvo Morton stark was bringing those feelings back here but all of this character building in quotes results in a movie. Where the bulk of the action the Third Act and we come to superhero movies for action. So do me a solid in the listeners. A solid what is demon in a bottle because I think up until now and maybe even still now this could be his most iconic comic book arc but up to this moment this is the most popular ironman story. Is this story demon in a bottle? And what are the ways in which you see it echoing throughout ironman too so deepening a bottle and you know people are GonNa come at me forgetting parts wrong here. But it's been a long time since I've read this comic from the seventies or eighties but basically you know Tony. Stark has always been an ego egotistical. He's also an alcoholic and this is his spiral of alcoholism going really really really bad to the point that it leads to very very destructive behavior and he ultimately loses. He's no longer ironman but he ended the series. You have James Rhodes. Basically I believe taking over the role. So it's this self destructive behavior through alcoholism that gets reflected in a very very dark way but a very real way a lot of this experience. that story. I think handled the product. Alcoholism really well in my memory. It's alcoholism is a very emotional. Touchy thing for a lot of people as you idea what you're talking to. Yeah coming you know from my I have experienced with that for my family It's rough and I think the storyline tackled it in a way that felt more real which I appreciated but ultimately it is about Tony. Stark spiral and destructive behavior. And doing some really stupid dangerous things that lead to him no longer being iron man and we kind of sword. See that a little bit here. I you know the self destructive thing to feel sorry for him. Yes but I agree that you kind of. It's hard to feel for him because of his behavior but there was a realism there. Maybe again. Because it's me 'cause I'm also have an ego that I saw the spiral that kind of get it. I grown a lot since I was that bad. I think in terms of my ego and self destruction but I got it now that all said. I think you're actually thinking of order of the Phoenix and not half blood prince when you make that order. The Phoenix is the one where hairy actually literally going through puberty. Having a lot more emotions and a lot more emotional I read. He was very annoying in that book. Because I was older but I I went through that. We all went through that phase rate. Okay are just GonNa just GonNa hit that. Carry on on twitter. Hit ME UP AS SOMEBODY WHO Is about a year in four ish months five months removed from his last drink. I would be very compelled to have seen demon in a bottle. Storyline adapted will on a big screen to see like a big budget superhero movie taking on alcoholism normalizing that like there are a lot of people that can't do it or can't do it well or for whatever reasons it's just not the right fit whether it's genetic or learned behavior. I think iron man to being the third movie in the Marvel Cinematic Universe with all of. Its trying to happen here in this movie. I'm so glad they didn't try to demand a bottle they would they would they would they would. They would have really done a terrible job moralizing and it. Just it just wouldn't have been good. I think the the Marvel Studios of today should they choose to do something like that like Disney show or something like that? I think that they could tell mature nuanced version of that story. Maybe maybe maybe and like it might be too adult honestly. I can't see the MAS day that it needs to be that it's too adult especially like young people start doing stupid stuff when they're really young. Oh absolutely it can't hurt to like you know. Tell a really good story about wake. Did you have fun. But because like you know like like also like some of this stuff is very prickly and like there are there are things about it that go well beyond something as simple as have fun. Don't be stupid you know. It's it's very very very deep water and I think it would be. It'd be great if done well but it's so easy to do poorly and I'm really glad that they didn't try to do it here on our man. I'm open to them trying to do something like that in a future marvel movie but only if they've got a killer idea an killer way of presenting it and a killer team to back it up and I just don't know that the juice is worth the squeeze on something like this. What's keep going a couple of different takes on Tony from this from this movie? This from Kyle says I think the film's major problem. Is that Tony? Self-destruction isn't self inflicted. If he's the most upstanding guy in the world he would still be dying just a little bit slower so when he makes a magic triangle. There isn't any actual character growth. That's the take from. Kyle jared offers an alternate take. Jared says I think Cardi Jay kills it here. You might be even better than the first movie. I really like how his life flashing before his eyes affects them. And I think it's interesting to reconsider in light of end game. I think I'm more aligned with jared. I think that I actually think that like I prefer Ironman one because it of its historical value. And I think it's it's it's on. It's a more stable movie but I definitely think that Robert Downey junior is a lot more confident here and ironman too then. He is an Ironman one. I think at this point like he's he's bringing that energy that he brings to the stark expo. He's definitely bringing the energy buddy. It's me well he had he. Had you know who he saw the success that they saw that at work they were nervous? The first time it'd be like is this GonNa work. Is this character. GonNa we're GONNA pull it off and they did so he. Of course he feels a little more confident in this role now and I think that makes total sense. But that doesn't you know the self inflicting I think is a valid point on that end of it that the character He doesn't he. It's hard to say. He saw his life flash before his eyes necessarily too much because he also experienced that already right like the life that flash before his eyes when he was in. The cave is the same life. He's technically seeing now. Except now he's also ironman. So if anything is life is on the upswing and maybe if we saw more of that idea where it's just like I'm dying before I actually really fulfil the greatness. I think I can accomplish. Then that could have pulled off but instead we you know see more of the destructive behavior. 'cause he's dying. The Self Infliction Part is interesting because that is even in the bottle right like there's reasons to it that obviously deeper than like you should stop drinking. But I think there's a depth there that is lost in translation by making it just you just paladium poisoning. Let's bad guys stuff. We've cut from Christina. Be Poor Mickey Rourke. This character just does not have a lot to him and you can see. He's really trying his best to bring something more west make. It has a similar take on Justin. Hammer says I like. San Rocco is a very good actor. He might have even made a decent justin hammer but it really filled the direction they took the character with was horrifically bad. I get it. He's Mirror universe. Tony but hammer should be a kingpin. Lex Luther Villain we know is the bad guy but keeps enough plausible deniability to get away with it. What's your take on that? Take on Justin Hammer. My take is basically like we kinda have kingpin and we kind of have a lex luther like I think if they did that it would come off a little more to cliche unfortunately because those characters kind of exists in have this public sphere mindset. I don't dislike direction. They're going with Justin Hammer. I just didn't really again hit. The Pappas needless character enough to make him super interesting but yet they could have done the lex luther thing but yeah that's my main thing is if they did that. It's kind of like well. We have is kingpin. You know like kingpin is sort of that role that was filled so they have justin hammer do it. I don't think we'll work as well. Interestingly Benefits Patrick had written in the Great Brennan Fitzpatrick who is doing a bang-up job collecting all of this behind the scenes stuff and feedback for us. Here on everything is Super Brennan. Wrote to the movie even really need whiplash. It could've just been hammer time. The whole way and I think the movie would be better for it. And The aforementioned Christina Be Kevin Mentions the after mentioned Novi Movies where Christina but I wish that they would bring Justin Hammer back he's a villain rockwell. Kills it in the role? Hopefully they do dark avengers. And he's a part of it. I watched this youtube video. From Nando v Movies has slightly which he has a slightly different vision for the movie with Justin Hammer as the big bad and I have to say on paper. It sounds like better storytelling. So I have not checked. This Abba Christina has a link to that man of the movies since we shattered about so much we will put that in our show notes for sure but what do you think about a version of this where Justin Hammer is the solo. Bad Guy. Does that make the movie a little cleaner if you take whiplash out but if you take him out then you get rid of the Monaco. Seen so like feels like maybe. I don't know I don't know how you balance all of that you joan. I mean that's the problem right like I think you lose the Monaco scene. Which sucks unless he sends a robot out there that that that can accomplish that fight which is possible. I think you could have ended up with a better movie. If you picked one villain and focused in that way you could have developed pathos better. I think Justin Hammer would have been really interesting because I think you could have done a lot more with him than we got to do it. overnight stain but it would have been a similar path and that's probably why they wanted to avoid it and instead they just split the difference weight and then in a suit odiaum gained but I would have liked to seen. I think it could have worked out better. Yeah if they had picked one or at least on a better job of CO heating or making the villains cohesive all right. Let's keep pushing through Savan. Johnson ask does roadies recasting. Make the hulks recasting more acceptable. Yes Don cheadle a game. Changer Kevin in that with us. Just like buying into Don cheadle is Roti. We're going to be totally comfortable buying in to Mr Ruffolo stepping in for Mr Norton. I think yes but I think this thing only works characters and movies that we didn't really care about as much right in the first movie like we got a little bit of turns Howard but Rhody was established established yet. So they're able to pull it off with the people in Iraq and carbohydrate that much so recasting with Mark Ruffalo all right but if they did that can you imagine part way through it as being like well. It's no longer Chris Evans. Now it's this other dude. We would've been like what would have been way worse. It would have been harder but I think he does allow for recasting of certain characters for sure these Brian Lamond. With some love for Natalie Rush mccade Tie Romanoff Aka black widow. Brian says my personal. Mvp from this movie is black. F. And widow makes me super psyched to see the long long overdue black widow solo film. I watched with my husband. Will we both love the pipe? Cash Shadow to will and I have to give him credit for this. Take but the introduction of black widow is the best introduction of any character in terms of showing exactly what she can do and how cool she can be. I totally agree. Loved that Hallway fight scene except for her terrible wig. That's from that's from Brian. I'm going to take the opportunity as well to throw in my the robin comment from this week. This is basically as as you said many times a lot of her comments about black widows hair and like she actually was there was a moment. We were both shocked because black widows here when she showed up as Natalie. Richmond was fine like actually look good decent a. I don't want to speak for her in that regard but she was very much like wait. I thought this was a different hair. And then when the fight habits is like there it is and like her basic comment to is like. Why would she loosener hair to go into a fight especially when it looks like that? It's not the same down in loser. She has black widow. She had his natalie from legal. She has these intense gelled up curls and ringlets it's like she's going to homecoming in two thousand four and which I think is very valid comment. And Yeah it's just a weird look for that character but in terms of like the introduction. I can see that it's exactly as I said earlier right. Like what interests of the character? You kind of get everything that. She's about throughout this movie in her abilities. And her skill set if it's the best introduction of a character I don't know yet I'll have to re re going through. I mean I think we learned a lot about Steve Rogers and the first like ten seconds of that of that film about exactly what type of person he is and similarly to Tony Stark. I mean we kinda get exactly. Tony Stark is in the beginning of the movie personality. But as far as a superhero and what they can do yes. I think this is pretty up there for that. This is from Lawson who says can we talk about how hard Howard stark is totally? Just Roger Sterling A. I don't understand what that means or you not a madman. No I I forgot. I tried watching that show. I couldn't do it guys. I'm so sad John. Slattery please Roger Sterling on madman great character and I don't know that we don't necessarily that Howard stark in destroying the exact same Guy Johnson. John slattery does this swagger him. He's great we'll have laughed when we get to Captain America and a couple of weeks. Who is the Better Howard? Stark John? Slattery Dominic Cooper. The crazy thing is imagining a world. In which Dominic Cooper grows up to be John slattery like just doesn't accept it doesn't make a ton of sense. How about this? How about in terms of things that people who grow into into unexpected new new entities with new powers professor strunk strikes again and says retroactively? Tom Holland and Kevin Foggy have confirmed that the little boy in the IRONMAN mask almost gets taken out by a drone knows her. Get them out of here. He dropped three. He dropped three. That's fine. It's really funny because when that Seen Happen. I wrote down on my notebook. Where's that kids parents? I guess. Now I know but how come on the Marne start thing I'll give and it'd be like okay. That's really funny. I liked that. This is just really great. Why is this a problem? Tony Stark more. It helps explain why he's such a hero to. Here's the thing. Do we need that. That's my argument Spiderman. What fun it's I don't know there's a lot I love about the Tom Holland Spiderman stuff and I like legit love love and high rankings but I think connecting Tony. Stark deeply to that character isn't the right way that character's motivations and stuff. I think it's very very different you know. I think the Detroit has to be because if that happened. If he's stark if he's all what a hero is and all that stuff he would go. Bedouin have died in the way he did like. I feel like there's just so much there that could alter the course of that character's personality and direction but sure okay. What a fun hater on hater. And I'm I am in support of this. Little boy with the iron man mask standing up to the drone with his hand held out because he's a hero deep in his heart and some day. Shalva come Peter. Parker Spiderman grinned. Cheer Grinch Stan Johnson says is this movie of order in. I believe Ironman too takes place before the hulk. I guess a couple of people pointed this out to us that. There's a comic book tie in that clears up the continuity regarding the Tony Stark Stinger from incredible hulk. There's always a convict. I feel like to clear up these take place after could make a lot more sense honestly. Professors strunk the Tim Blake Nelson here of our of our Superhero podcast. Which is a huge compliment. Strunk sums it up for us a little bit. It's also apparently retroactively explained in a marvel one shot the post credits scene. He says the one shot explains that Tony Stark Aka. The consultant was sent by shield to meet with thaddeus. Ross tried to recruit the abomination for the avengers team in reality shield was using stark shield. Wanted to make sure that the abomination stayed locked up in new. That Tony Stark would annoy. Ross so much that it would encourage Ross to keep the nation locked up important takeaway here. Is that the incredible hulk. Post credit scene takes place after iron man to chronologically because remember how at the environment to Nick? Fury discusses how they would like to have Tony Stark in a consultant role. Why would I mean I guess I guess that's that that can work it? It's just weird to think. Well they sent him to recruit the combination because they knew that it would keep the abomination locked up. I guess it's still a bit weird. I think their their hand waving on that one. But sure why? Not and then finally from Lawson Campbell. Can WE GIVE BONUS POINT? Villain bonus points to Senator Stearns. No we cannot. He can't in your heart won't for the purposes of this podcast Hail Hydra Ostra. Let's into our infinity stone rankings. Kevin the way this works is we're going to be ranking the movies along the way the villains along the way the post credits scene along the way I give score. Kevin gives us scored the audience rights into super at push recaps dot com with their scores from a scale of zero to six infinity stones. We round up the average audience score as a third data point. We average that with my score with Kevin scoring that gives us our official score here for everything is super movie rankings. Let's start there so here at the polls that we're working with so far at the top we've got iron man. I'm talking about my own personal polls. You can speak to yours Kevin. I have iron man at the top right now with five six infinity stones which I know is a full stone further than you would like Kevin and so. I've got the incredible hulk as low as a one point five because it really just doesn't fit ironman too was once upon a time in my mind worse than the incredible hulk. But it's definitely not so it's definitely higher than one point five for me and there is a lot that I think it whiffs on but there's a lot that just kind of like works in spite of itself so I think I wanNA set ironman too as like a mid point in the rankings. For me that I think he got a clear an iron man to threshold. Because I think that this is my theory of. Mci is that by and large. These movies are great by and large. These movies are very very good when they're average that's like pretty close to being the worst that these movies get. So let's test that ironman too is GonNa get a solid three from me. I'm going to give it three out of six infinity stones. This is dead set in the middle where fifty percent of the way there and I think that most movies will end clearing that and then I'll be very surprised when they don't So ironman too is going to rest right there at that fifty yard line again. I don't know if it's like fifty yard line as that makes sense. It's good if you did go on that one. Is that right so middle okay. Great so there it is at the fifty yard line. I was right all along is going to get a three from me. I obviously I was a little bit not as generous. I guess to say but like Ironman went definitely still at the top for me It's out of four. Which I think is my own very fair assessment of that bill again considering the broader context of every other film that I know exists out there for this in the incredible hulk was a two right like in my mind mainly because I'm pretty sure there's a movie that's lower if it's not congratulations to that film but we shall see and in a similar way. I didn't want I wasn't going to go for three for this because I feel like there's other movies that will sit in the middle a little bit better for right now. Ironman too is a good mid ground. But I think there's so many other movies that are still better than Ironman to that. Still Fall in the middle for me about. What's the common because of that? I did give the movie a two point five. It's not that far off from your three but for me. I think it just works a little bit better so we have iron metaphor iron meant to two point five and incredible hulk at a two and maybe I might change that incredible hulk suitable one point. Five later we'll see so the audience score for Iron Man. Two is even higher than mine but barely three point. One is the listener. Average goes as low as a one C even a one and a half score. And I don't think it breaks into the fives. It doesn't no one no one gave it pacify but there's a few scores in the fours there and I think that a lot of people were kind of just surprised by ironman reevaluation of it. So with my three with Kevin's two and a half with the audience is three point one. We land at two point. Eight seven for Ironman too as it stands the rankings as they stand iron man with comfortable lead at four point five nine big gap than Ironman too in second with two point eight seven and Z. Incredible Hulk still bringing up the rear of one point nine three. Let's evaluate some villains. I gave a three Kevin. That was precedent that I set. We did because we really liked enough. The Jeff Bridges Portrayal Beker in for that exact same reason. I'm just GONNA dump threes on Justin Hammer whiplash because I row. I really really love Sam Rockwell. And this and I'm so surprised by how much more I enjoyed. Mickey work in this than I remembered and I really think that if whiplash really screws up at the that's it like he really blows at the end he decides to get into a suit of armor that he's probably never flown around before he goes up against Tony Stark. Who's been in that armor for a little while at this point and Rhody who is trained soldier and he gets a NI- late in five seconds to the point. Kevin where like I was watching it. Emily walked in the room to talk to me about something and I turned to look at her and address like whatever it was we needed to talk about and then when I turned back to the movie whiplash dead. It just happened. That fast rewind I was like Oh God he dies that quick So that's why he can't go any further than three but my enjoyment of whiplash of Mickey Rourke with the bird want my bird my shirt. I want my bird such thorough enjoyment that I get out of that character now to Sam Rockwell. That GonNa hit them. Both of the three. I like them both so much. I mean I you know I. I gave staying three based on like I did like Jeff Bridges but I also caveat with trying to pull away as much as possible from that portrayal right because like I tried to look at it as the villain itself and in a weird like well. He's set the precedent way. He like he did that. Villainy and his motivations were there and then you have now just hammering whiplash who are just each each basically like half of what over. Dystopian was so as villains as much as I liked the performances. I could not give that that high. I felt that over diocese had more because he was a whole villain with those things versus just split in two now so whiplash as much as I love love. Love Mickey Works Intermission at character. I gave it a one point five because I like the character wasn't there the death of the character wasn't there enough and Justin Hammer. I did give too because I do. Think he'll potential and really he got an extra point five because again. Same Rockwell's dancing. Audience is closer to me on Justin Hammer. Two point nine. They are really basically in the middle of us for whiplash two point three and so that puts us. This is these are the rings of the villains as it stands stain King of the Mountain. Three point seventeen right now robot stain. Justin Hammer following them at two point six five whiplash following Justin Hammer. Two Point two eight off three of them above a meal blonde ski what that and eat that one point. Six one for a meal blonde ski and a one point. Five one for Thunderbolt Ross. I feel like that rank is about to change next week. Pretty hard war. We'll find out Post credit scenes speaking of speaking the teas of thors Hammer. Which I've just going to give two point five better than the already J. Cameo Height building but I do remember at the time I could sound like a big surprise but it's just more like oh man. I very curious to see what they're gonNA do with Thor. Like how is going to fit into any of what they're doing here so I remember my my hype levels. Were not like off the charts in the same way that the nick fury scene is by any stretch of the imagination. So it's still pretty muted score and I think especially in the context of like other. Mci Post Credit Scenes. This has to be fairly low and this has to be below the fifty yard line Kevin and I even wonder if two point five is a little high but I'm just GONNA keep it there for now. You're doing well with a sports. Analogy is but depending on what direction you're facing below. The fifty yard line is actually going to be a good thing but anyway the offense underneath the fifty yard sales. And that's it so yeah you WanNa be going to forty thirty two thousand ten if you are the offense because you wanNA push towards the goal so if you're the defense you wanna be okay anyway. It's your goal got. Somebody's GONNA come back and we've actually what you wanted anyway. I'm not a sports expert guys. I barely know more than Josh here but ironman too. Yeah the thors Hammer. I remember being excited for about it. End like the excitement is still there. But it's not high you're right it's not super high. I think my biggest memory of the time and I think what I did like is that that scene. That's shot of thors Hammer. Crater is pulled up from the comics. I won't point until more modern version of the comics but this great moment where like thors hammer had landed and people are just like in a line like a giant language. We kinda see INTHORP from that mistake. And I'm trying to lift that Hammer. No one being able to and it's just fun thing of people trying to do until until the shows up in the comics. He has an alter ego named on a blake. And some other thing. But I like the shot because it was like Oh comic book. But in retrospect it's as good to me as DJ showing up. It's like thors. Hammer is to level of RJ. Showing up in an incredible hulk so I ended up giving it a two which was the same ranking now that said it was exciting to to hear the lightning strike do distinctly remember one of my stories. I want to share about this about seeing that movie for the first time in theaters. That happened and there was a moment of quiet. And someone said it's four and I was just like like laughed because they weren't doing it to be obnoxious. They were like they really did like. Oh Man Thor because like data no I guess coming. We're we're more sometimes. You need to be reminded that you're more ingrained in this stuff than everyone else. So it was a genuine like excited. Happy mood from someone and I distinctly remember that. Yeah but it is going to be cool. A audience a significantly higher on this than us. Three point eight from the audience for thors Hammer. Which boosts this up? This is the second best post credit scene so far. Nick Fury. Still in the untouchable I think lead with five point nine. Six two point seven six for thors hammer. Two point seven for the already J. Cameo in the incredible Hulk Kevin you and I have been tracking some informal rankings on our own. Just you in Iowa having to reach some measure of consensus is saying the iron man to fight is the best final battle so far you disagree I did. I will concede to you if you concede to me the next time. I have a strong feeling on the final battle ranking I. I'll I'll I'll do that. I can do that and if it's going to be one that I'm really passionate about regret that but we'll keep switching it back and forth this rain. You have the power right now. Iran is clearing ironman too. I'll have the power next time and you will be in deep deep deep deep danger. The next time we do this. If you come after Black Panther there will be problems. I'm not saying one way or the other all right. So ironman best final battle iron man to see the best battle but for the informal rankings. The second best final battle and the incredible hulk is still bringing up the rear. And how about? Let's 'cause with our informal are informal stones Stanley's Stanley as Larry King here like I'd like kind of like the recurring gag is like he's someone either that or he's like confusing him he takes after he thinks he's Larry King. He's here because he just like them. So maybe in this world Stanley just dressed similar to the person. I thought like the blink. And you'll miss it. Quality of this was a little funnier than the Hugh Hefner gags. I'll take Larry King over. Hugh Hefner Buddy. Incredible Hulk still gets to hold the title here. Yeah I think we're in agreement. Incredible Hulk is definitely the best. So far and yeah I think the blinken you miss it it. It's just a little bit better than the focus on. You have that moment of like wait. What's because like when it happens in Ironman? You're just like played is he. Hugh Hefner is he. Just dress like you have ner confused like what's happening there is now just. GonNa like wait was that I think that works better. So yes. That's our that's our does our Stanley ranking us. All right that's going to do for Ironman too much more fun than anticipated which bodes very well for the future of this podcast especially as we are now going to start branching into some characters that are also MCI mainstays that we haven't had a chance to talk to in deeper detail even if it's not necessarily a phenomenal film. I'm really really excited to get into the story universe. Yes yes or talk about Loki. Talk About Hemsworth. Talk about hit Allston. Even get my my boy Tony hops. Get some Tony hops. In this in this mix is going to be fun. That's coming next week directed by Gilderoy Lockhart. No the connections are all there. It's all thorough. Recap that'd be dropping April. Twenty ninth is what we're shooting for again. We appreciate you bearing with us on the delay. Get your feedback for the podcast. In by April twenty-seventh at the latest you can email US super at post show recaps dot com or you can tweet at us at pusher recaps at Brown Howard at Kev Mahamadou again. Please subscribe your ratings and reviews right now so appreciate it as we are trying to build up this audience for more people to join us not just from the MC you re watch. We'd said we've promised through phase one who knows where we go beyond that Kevin. I seem to be having a great time right now until you start coming after some movies that I love and then which is fun heater about spider man. What is what's your problem anyway. We're having fine so far so we will keep doing this for the foreseeable future but we are promised to at least as one then. Let's see where we go beyond that and then if we hit the end of the there's still places that we could go. There's a lot of superhero movies and TV shows out there We had one one person had had written in Lawson had written in Kevin and said. Have you guys? I've been binging agents of shield during quarantine says Lawson have. Josh and Kevin kept up with the show what they consider doing some conversation about agents of shield. I HAVE NOT WATCHED. Asians live shields. No no I have not I know I just. I don't even know what it is. That is just not compelled me enough to want to watch it. I think the disconnect I guess from the major issue is is something folks. I don't think it's imminent. I think for our one hundred thousand dollar patrons. Maybe that's just because it's also twenty two episodes guys and that's too much these days for me too much twenty two episodes seasons. Show us the money. And we'll do the two year old recap and until that time. It's knows what the future holds but it's not not in the plans right now. I did enjoy the first season and a half that I saw shielded fell off and then it became way too much. Tv to to catch up on all right. Kevin you're on twitter at kept my hideo people can Howard. You see what you're working on. You know that you're trying to get some comics going. Nothing nothing major reports the aperture working on your things. I'm working on this stuff that you mentioned website and everything so I'm trying to get some stuff out there really trying to especially as important do some more things so yeah it can have day over any updates on that end. Kaba recommendations about the flash. I gave him some records on that. So hopefully he enjoys the ones that I suggested or recommendations to get people hyped. Four yes Aaron. A lot of the jason x rays and air and stuff is really great. I would even say you can go further back than that I think the The RAGNAROK storyline from way. Back when before you know of entrances assemble and stuff is really good stuff. I think that sets the the end of the of an Arrow for the door we knew ended there. And then that kind of rebooted which Michalski store which I thought was really good and possible future for the MC honestly an Afro Hairstyle. A little more of the modern stuff can be really great especially now we know is coming eleventh under. There's an arc like you said where which is nairn where Jane Foster becomes store so there's a lot of good stuff recently but I would actually suggest going a little further back. Hit that thor ragnarok storyline before avengers disassembled and then go into jam S. Thor stuff I think is really solid. All right there's your or homework from Kevin. Re if you read any of that stuff and you've got any questions for Kevin read on the podcast. We can certainly do that. You can also just hit him up on the twitter machines at Cath Madeo. I'm at round Howard. There's so much happening on. Post show recaps rate now. West road is getting close to the end of the line. Better Call Saul has reached the end of the line. But there's still some podcasting to be done there with Myself Antonio Massaro and Rob Setzer. Nino is going to be joining us for feedback. Show killing Eve podcasting. Going on loss down the hatch is happening as well. Plus some bonus sporadic final fantasy seven remake coverage Kevin. I know you're playing seven remake. How's that going? No SPOILERS GREAT. Spoilers crash through a roof is what I'll say. Okay I got it. I know where you're adding. I'll talk off line because it's a pretty cool thing that's about to happen for you and it's a pretty cool thing that's going to happen to you if you out there listening. Get An F. seven and you want to hear myself in Ken. Hong King of smash from survivor good bone talking about F F seven. Because that's what we're doing not really promising a schedule on that one. It's just really happening as it happens. I consider any fancy seven. Podcast a bonus. Final fantasy seven. Podcast we'll be back next week talking door until then everybody take care. Bye Cabinet you still regarding. I am still recording. Do you want to pick up a hammer? So that like this counts as a post credit by having you know what's the heaviest object that you have your by that we could hear you really strain. There's a super at this this this do your best impression of yourself picking up. Mueller. What would it sound like? Well I would just lifted off the ground and hold a lightning strike Son of a you gotTa Hashtag for this one. If people have made it this far I mean I like Hashtag Hammer time because one is Justin Hammer but also leads into the man. But we're going to cross over into MC hammer twitter. I am fine with that Sir. All right Hashtag Hammerton. And if you've got this special ending all right take everybody but.

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Lou Diamond Phillips

ID10T with Chris Hardwick

1:06:06 hr | 4 months ago

Lou Diamond Phillips

"Welcome to the podcast number. Eleven eleven one one one one. That is a very satisfying episode number. Eleven eleven very special indeed. Also hey if you wouldn't mind head on over to ten dot com sign up for our email list so we can let you know about stuff 'cause also in addition to the merchant stuff podcast and that sort of thing. I would imagine that at some point. I don't know when. But at some point i will go tour again. The the wizard guitar tour abruptly cut off a year ago. But i would still like at some point when it is safe and comfortable to do so And also safe and comfortable to ask people to gather together in a comedy club. That that i would like to do that and i would like to let you know about it so please sign up for the email list dot com. We'll hope you do that. But let's talk about the community events. That i d ten t dot com like justin who sent an email wanted to spread the word about children's book. His wife illustrated is he says in defending immunity. Maggie elliott illustrates whimsical tale. Written by her friend and collaborator. Michael smyth that smyth with a why. I'm guessing it smyth but there's no e. on the end so could be smith. I apologize. Justin did not include a phonetic michael smith smyth I'm sure that is A frequent question that you get so. I'm hoping i'm pronouncing that properly smyth anyway. It's the book is about the steps. One inventor goes through to protect the nation of immunity from tiger attacks. And the problem. She faces when the tigers are all different types. It's fun for any child and the allegory of flu. Vaccines is particularly lightning in this time of pandemics and quarantines so incredibly proud of the work. Justin says the maggie and michael put into this project defending in museums available on amazon imprint. And in the e book form 'electronic book. If you will justin thank you so much for sending this in invented dot com for anyone else who has a thing they would like to share this episode is lou diamond phillips who I became pals with when he did talking dead. A handful years ago he was walking. Dead fan came on talking dead then ended up from there going on to direct an episode of fear the walking dead but Lose great he's a writer. A screenwriter a playwright. A director And of course an actor you know i mean it was going back to la bamba standing deliver the youngun series and then just a slew of really cool television and lose sci fi and horror in all sorts of stuff. He's been done theater. You know he was in stargate universe. He was along mayer. He was in blue bloods. He's currently on prodigal son with tom paine from who was on the walking dead as well so liu and his wife are just such wonderful folks and also became pals with my mom when they met on talking dead. So i'm so glad. Louis finally on the podcast. He's promoting his new movie. Adverse which is available on digital and on demand in dvd march ninth adverse also stars. Mickey rourke penelope and miller sean astin so so check it out and and also you can look for lou on prodigal son as well so here is the podcast. Eleven eleven with mr lou. Diamond phillips role. The thing initiating april ladies and gentlemen. Welcome to the podcast. Luke phillips. Chris how are you good to see you you as well i just. I just tweeted mama. The letter to be talking to you on the abreu This year in lydia. So man it's been on my friend. Got my momma doors. You by the way like she just thinks the world of you both and When you did talking dead in full years ago She was just like. Oh my god you guys need to hang out more. I don't know you know like shoot. My mom was making all these plans for a one hundred percent. When this was craziness all over We do we need to. We need to get together at some point you know. Just just a rake's bread i would love to. Are you in new york currently in new york city still filming a prodigal son out go our old mutual friend mr tom paine. So yeah man. It's a we started the season at the end of a twenty nineteen or in the middle of it. You've gone and i rented a van and drove cross country with indigo who was twelve at the time. Five cats in the dog crazy got to go to new york. City did the first season than i obviously admired for the pandemic hit. Rug got pulled out from under us and we haven't been able to go back since so new york city's pretty pretty good place to get stuck wait so before we get to the all the pandemic stuff i want to hear about the van trip van or like a winnebago or like an airstream it's one hundred percent like right there in the middle of it. It's the company band ago which rents too little indie rock bands. They go touring the country. So there's enough room for everybody in the plant cats in the van but enough that we were basically packing hassle Moved to new york for what we do is going to be a year. You know obviously turn into too much longer than that so it was. It was hilarious. I mean it was kind of a chevy chase movie will. Are you going to get it or were you sleeping in sleeping in it or were you stopping. No no no. We found lahser pet friendly hotels across the country. And we're able to move. You know we we got a big. You know like The animal carrier and we would move the cats into a into a hotel room and everything and into the man every morning and the dog. The dog was flying. A former cats gable a came up with this whole new meow which we had never heard before but he would literally sit on a chic on while you know what he was just floored by all the sites that you see. It's like driven across country. There's a lot of beautiful stuff while his biggest ball yarn. That's what got the cat out while i'm done it. I've done the cross country trip. My dad my parents neither really like flying and when i was growing up we just did a lot of driving across country and i've done it in my adult lives the idea of it. I mean i guess it probably better if you have a goal like okay. I'm going to move across country but just to drive across country just for the hell of it. I find that. The i like day and a half is amazing. Oh my god were on the road feel so free and then at a certain point. There's not a lot in the in the middle. Like when you get in the middle is just a lotta flat at a lotta cornfields and i kind of started to feel like it was a wallis prison in the sense that you can't stop. It's like oh we have to keep driving because we can't just stop here. The only thing that here are these falling just like every mile or too. There's a barn that looks like it's a hundred years old. It's about to fall down. That's just sitting. So did the psychology of that. Eat it you or was it. The whole time was pretty fun it was. It was fun for me. I mean like you as a as a kid in my in my dad. Georgia's such a car guy. We take trips all the time and then living in texas you not. I mean please. You know just just coming off a road trip you know so. So that's very much part of my history and culture. Any had never been through the middle part of the country. She never seen of the grand canyon. The was it. Liberty arch in saint louis to stuff like that. We thought about going memphis and going to graceland but You know we do we. We needed to get new york eventually. But yeah it's it can get Hypnotic after a while. Because you know i mean the miles. Just keep rolling past you but you do get this great sense of americana and and how you know different people live. I mean. I think there's something to that. You know urban bubble that people who were not every place. La not every place is new york city and you get into the americana of it all and even you like little roadside stops became new jersey for me a little. You know a vegetable stands you know so. We wind a lack of a better local flavor. Wherever we went and got to take that in absolutely. I mean like like going across this country as a tourist is really fun because you really do. And it's one of my favorite my favorite thing as besides performing as a touring comedian is finding like you know what's the best donut. What's the best pizza. What's the best local thing like. What's the best local antique shop. Just really getting a vibe for everything and when you drive and you're sorta open to discover you really find these pockets of amazing like there was someplace i want to say. It was maybe an eye iowa or oklahoma where it was. Just been this town. That apparently had just had this incredible like food scene like in the middle of nowhere. It's just a handful of people just decided. Let's move there. They converted the the old gas station into a restaurant. And all the just you know just this kind of amazing resiliency of different different parts of the country. Yeah no i mean everybody wants to you know to to feel special in the something you know that that that is unique in that you can only get there. I mean part of the time. It's true it's like it's like that scene in el nino what. He sees the world's best comedy. Congratulations you did. It's not so much still remember. You talked about driving across country when you were younger. When i think about what we would drive across country i look at it. The same way as like prehistoric times like before electricity. Like how the fuck did we get fruit. I can remember you know like getting in the car having a stack of maps in the glove compartment unfolding my dad unfolding the maps just kinda. He's pretty familiar with the highways. But just kind of looking you know and then you get to a certain region and then your map. Run out and you'd stop at like a studies and you would get another like series of regional maps and you'd have to connect it all and i don't know it just now it's like oh everything's on my phone. I can see what places are pet friendly which hotels have good reviews where the local restaurants are. And i look back at that ago. How did we not die. Even though it wasn't that dire but with all now knows a little bit of lewis and clark there was a big gaps. If there wasn't more than a few thousand people in town you know it barely made the map not to mention that. I don't know about you man but you know what i was a kid. It was just like two parents who smoke and i didn't have to wear seatbelts in the backseat visited. The fact you know. How do we survive. I don't know you know. I mean there was these in in in the past recite why we did what i know because it the and you can still. You still see traces of that older version of america. Especially if you drive through like albuquerque or any of these places that really proliferated on the route sixty six path then were kind of supplanted by the freeways and the you know like the what his really ended up happening was that you know every kind of small little town developed. Its own little. There's there's like the highway side honeycomb of your whatever your cracker barrel in your starbucks and your gas stations with you. No wifi and dunkin donuts and the honeycomb of the little town centers of like your home depot your tgi. Fridays or applebees. Or whatever. Fast food more starbucks. And so. I i really as much as i appreciate the convenience and the consistency of that I also do miss. You know those mom and pop shops in just like everything that just was so unique to the different regions. And we tried to do that. We tried to in the mornings. Like where's my starbucks car but We we try whenever possible to you. Know to to hit the the local places like you said man. I mean literally. I'd be driving evolve. You're looking at as oh look here. You know we're going to be you know. We only set a destination for the end of the day. You know and we were pushing ourselves because the van rental seven days anyway. So it's like you know you can make it to the organ four. You know driving pretty hard. You can take your time and you know. See the sights and that's kind of what we did is like. Oh look here. Let's stop for early. You know this little place looks kinda cool. Because we're going to be this cow and she was always a scrolling ahead to find out what. What kind of cools off. you know. we're coming up. Well it's i mean i. I hate to blame this. You know like maturing age and whatnot but my heart always wants to eat all of the local everything and travel local everything but especially when you're on the road it's like i need some consistency because if you get a bad coffee or you eat something. That isn't quite in the zone of what your body is used to. You know row road diarrheas. No fun you know like you just. You can't take too many gambles. Sometimes you know it's got my soul and my physiology. We got a twelve year old. So you know there's there's a certain amount of pickiness on there as like you know. We began began stop at the atomic pepper place. No no it's i guess due to van have a toilet editor. No it was just like we did not. So you know you. You take these things into consideration especially because you know when you get the middle of the country you go. Oh wow we're just so you were so spoiled with convenience and you go. oh wait. There's not a place for like seventy miles so if either. I hope there's rest area or it's like or your corn shitting like you just can't there. There's no you we really get so easily spoiled. You know i mean. Hats off to the truckers of america. Who have figured out right how to really Traverse this massive land that we live in crazy stuff man crazy stuff and yet i mean we. We were fortunate and you know we'll do it again. We'll do it again. But i mean this last summer there was just no way there was just away with pandemic going on and not knowing what was going to happen. We knew we couldn't jump in a another van. And you know. I hate to say get stuck in wherever for the entirety of the pandemic. You know i. I guess i guess probably the first time i bet you was when you did talking dead and i i imagine it was was the episode that you directed a fear. No i think you've just came on as man and then after that you ended up directing an episode. Exactly when i have to say. I mean the one thing leads to another. I was doing a play in connecticut that i had written produced it. I was doing the play and a every sunday night. Because we had a sunday matinee. I would cook for the cast and crew and we would watch the walking dead and the talking debt amazing. Yes big fans before before we ever met and literally one of the guys setting the lighting director. Whatever man you really need to be on that show and i went. Yes i need to be on this show. And then your mom saw the tweets tweeted right action and then you like she said you need to get on the show and you tweeted back. Okay i think you do that the next thing you know of there on the talking to gouge you know it's like the event nicole round. You immediately see that. I'm a super van. And i was on a couple of times and and then when fear got new show runners. Oh here's a guy who knows the show inside and out knows the mythology knows the you know the the language sensibilities and that led to me getting a gig letting me being on the cash once again as a director. You've directed quite a bit of television. I know. I think. I'm pretty sure you must have directed a prodigal son by now i just did at. I got to do the mid season. Finale off and introduce catherine zeta jones to the cast. Oh fantastic and it got. Alan coming is a guest star as wolfram episodes. So just just amazing you know. I've been so fortunate. Because i've been able to do show that have such not only a massive fan base but have their own language and their own a world billed to them. You know what i'm saying. Meyer like mark exactly in the western world and the walking dead. I did an agents of shield. So you really got to play with some sci fi superhero iconography and then you know to this real urban dark gritty serial killer but twisted sense of humor. Show that his prodigal son. I absolutely thrilled not to mention. I mean frigging cast includes you know tom paine me young michael she and i mean. Come on man you know. Our show is so dense you frame harks in aurora perrineau. And you again hostess as the entire cast. You throw the ball man and they're gonna score so of Already to be able to work with that much talent. And then full. Catherine zeta jones in oncoming. Rachel york from broadway in july episode. Yeah i i was like myself. It was it was crazy. I mean that is that is kind of fun thing. I imagine for having such a lengthy careers that you get to you. Sort of developed. It really becomes like a community. It's like you see a lot of the same people you know like you were in your proximity to walking dead. Oh i know you also worked on blue bloods too. I did three episodes as an actor and the ultimate goal once again. Small world man. I was directing the feudal walking dead. Dave barrett directed the episode after me and We got we got to know each other very friendly. He says you need to come to blue blessed because he's the show runner so we should yeah he goes. I might have to have you on his an actress. And that's great. I think it's just wonderful. You know donnie and iron buddies. So i'm supposed to read the blue bloods but then product pick up the back nine and i had about out of having done so and the funny thing is the agents of shield literally came about because i got a call while i was directed through the walking dead off. Showrunner on agents of shield is daughter stunt performer hub. You walking dead golden loose. Jilin manny soon really. Great job on this. You should have him on. Agents of shield and ages of zeal so once again it's just small world. I mean literally without the producers across the sun. We had a little bit of a hiccup with casting and in the eleventh hour the lead and they call go. What do you think tom went. Are you kidding me. 'cause tom and i've gotten to know each other. All on the festival circuit you know a and the convention circuit and not only do. I love him as an actor. But he's a great guy. Just such a solid human being such a big heart. And and i have to say the number one of the call sheets main has been a an absolute no. He sets the bar very high. Not only from his work ethic in his respect for the caribbean. What was the first thing you directed. Oh gosh i mean that's going back to nineteen ninety was film for. Hbo called dangerous touch. That i also co wrote it was it was right there in that period. Were they attraction. Were were all the rage. The the to nate kind of psycho sexual rover so yes. Dangerous touch was in that in that in that era Done a good handful of independent films. i did a question mark and a handful a handful of television one of the first things i did was actually just had robert joy yesterday on our show. was an episode of outer limits. I acted until i acted directed in a twilight zone as well. So you know it's it's been off and on for a number of years is never been my bread and butter but i will say that. I am pursuing it much more than i used to. A lot of times disorder fell into my lap. It was something that i i love doing. But i wasn't going to supplant the acting will to do it but now i look at streaming. I look at the the quality of lighting the quality of the budgets and the budgets. That i had for an episode of television far surpass anything he ever got as an independent films. You know so. There's every reason world to do more of that because it's it's just i think television is is better than it has been decades will. Yeah because it has to compete. Because what's really happening is that everything is everything is especially in. The last year is being basically presented in the same way. Were watching it like the idea of tv and movies and short films and internet videos. It's all just kinda squishing together. Under the br under the name of content. You know it's like people just want good. They just want stuff. That's good to watch whether it's a series or a movie or a short or whatever it is but you know we're kind of just watching it all the say in way so it's somewhat becoming indistinguishable from one another. It is and so. There's there's a level of expectation you know it's like when you call game of thrones. Tv's all come on three weeks to shoot a battle scene okay that atv yet technically stevie and say and then you get these incredible streaming shows of which you know a big. But they're they're you know. Basically you know the the dance mix of episodic you've got you've got things like that means ganda or you know a any of the other really great. You know the the flight attendant which my friend go jalen rose novel. It's it's a different world and so An even directly something like prodigal son. The bar is very high. We're making feature film quality looking stuff for tv on tv budget tv schedule. And that's that's the challenge. But i mean i i love that. 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I mean like the night before the movie. Open danny bell. Does she played my linnet. Who was the associate producer. He's actually the one who said go to texas. Go to texas and auditioned people there because danny had originally option this story. He contacted the valentine family because he wanted the role but it took him twenty years to get it off the ground. He'd been the lead in zoot suit. He didn't lead in like bullhorn nights or something that and his brother was louise's that they were going do a long time and it took him that long to get the movie made but the knife opening literally said we're gonna hand you the keys to the candy store. Don't rot your teeth. yeah you know. And it's so funny because when you say overnight success to me. That's the overnight on a thursday night. Not many people know who i am on a friday. A few million people have seen movie at all. Wow and the thing that i think even even more so Cemented that was the fact that i was on the poster that there was none people with naming the face together like right away and shot out of a cannon and just shot out cannon so we did we did a a special screening for the farmers. And that's you know what i mean. I love i was loved that because we all this came from the yatra compassi. No farm workers union theatre which was political activism through theater and and as a result i ended up marching with investing for sister has sweat at the intimately involved with a lot. causes of day which is a little bit my way of giving back being latino jason. You know a filipino. But we did this. Great premier in watsonville. Where the apricot. Pic- sequels was helen. Mirren is married to a taylor. Hafer was producer second unit director on itself. So we had this wonderful dinner in the battle of the mexican restaurant there. But on the way in out of the screening east side and i just got mobbed i mean hair pulling button upping balked and recklessly i sit down next to helen mirren and i said wow of maybe one of these days. I'll get used to this. And she put her arm her hand on my arm. She's oh boy. Don't get used to because then you get snow. That's amazing advice. Yeah so you both both of those little nuggets of wisdom. I stayed with me obviously throughout the years but really not always helped me stay centered and stay grounded because you know life changed life changed massively you know in a very short period of time yet but then but there are so many great movies to stand and deliver was an amazing film The youngun series was fan. I refills in hollywood bomba. Standard delivery guts. Oh my god. That's one of the reasons. I'm still around today. I mean is it is it. Are you able to sort of. Because i know you also did a lot of work in the theater as well. So is there a certain party going. Like well yes. I'm doing these big films. But i also really want. I really want to experience that sort of intimate type of acting from the theater to to write in the theater to produce in theater to act in theater. You know i. I would imagine a you know. Some people probably would have just been caught up in the hollywood. Never thought like oh. I really wanna go focus on craft and work and you know and so what what was it specifically about the theater that having done these three like huge films as your first three movies where you have the presence of mind to go. Yeah but i also really really want to have this real this theater experience i. I'll be honest i got. I got seduced carried away from the theater for a while. You know I mean because not just being an actor. I wanted to be a snack. I mean specifically a film actor because When i was a teenager i heroes my idols. The people that i looked at said while. That's that's the kind of actor that i want to be and You know deniro chino often. These swore the not blonde haired blue eyed guys who that movie stars like okay. You don't have to be. Robert redford to be a movie star. And and so that was what i was pursuing. I was studying film at the same time. I was studying theater in injections you know. So i got away from the theater for a while and it took a few years. It took a two years for me to to go. You know this is not i. I need to get back to basics. I need to you know either even to the point where my agent had made me offer only right because they always taught this and that i kept seeing movies at go by that was like. Why didn't i see that. Why didn't why. Didn't i read that script and i realized then you know you can really your cock. It's like one of those things where comic all this great material. And then their next their next bit of material is is only about the famous and being rich being your you'll lose the street and because you don't have to hit the bricks anymore you lose that thing that made you great in the first place. We'll that's a. That's a brilliant way to put it to because yes you do sort of express whatever your immediate and there is a i guess you know. There's a certain comfort level that comes along that is welcome but too much of it is also detrimental because we do you know like everyone just sort of kind of claws their way through the business in the beginning and it's like oh just anything i just want to and then if you're fortunate enough to start working then you know you can get seduced by the how yeah offer only. I don't wanna have to go through the audition process but then if you get too comfortable and then you're right then all the sudden there's a certain amount of authenticity because you're you've taken yourself out of the bag name. The hunger is what you're talking about like you know the drive comes from hunger and maybe that hunger is to be. It can be all types of things that can be be the best actor or it can be as insidious just wanting to be famous or it can be like to work with certain people or to accomplish x. y. or z. And when people do and they kind of lose the hunger because they get comfortable. Then it's like you know you've got to find something else to get hungry about or or you just kind of like you know or you allow that process to sort of carry. I don't i mean. And i did. And so i got to this point like our hold on hold on. Let's get back to basics. I went did a play in la. Hoya a ridiculous. Look back at it now. I did the process lawn. Which was a reinterpretation of the breakfast. Like tony kushner. Pulitzer prize winning every award. The sun because of angels in america. That's worked with him. That's worth it. And this was a diverse cast before diversity was thin. Charlene was the will lead. And she's guests on the prodigal son with this in the first season. But it was this thing and david louis perez of los lobos who were my voice in the phil wrote new music for it. So i got this. I'll yeah i got to sing. Their songs was this. Was this weird kind of you know. Full circle thing and j. bedrick casting director solve after duck production and that led to me being in the king and i on broadway. Oh i thought he was just a movie. Oh no he's a theater guy who can carry a tune in a bucket so you know. I went in and auditioned for that. And then just just jettisoning the ego getting back to the basics of what what what it is to want something in go after it and to focus on the Courage under fire. Which i never would have done you know and both of those things. The king and i was regained changes for me in into really just going. Okay this is. This is the food of this is how it works and you know a- and not getting so precious anymore because if you want to go the stuff you gotta go for it yet but there is kind of a in fairness though there is a weird balance between not being too precious but also maybe this doesn't exist anymore but also not being perceived as like at that guy. I'll do anything. There's a weird sort of balance. And i don't really know what it is You know if a and maybe that's made up. I don't know but it does feel like there is a line to walk. Then you know and i don't know exactly what it is but it feels like there is something to that. No i mean you. Don't you know there's the old jokes you know about. People walk the red carpet or whatever. They'll you know this person show of the opening the tuna. Can't you know you don't you wanna be that person you know a so you do want to be desired a little bit. So there is i mean. Unfortunately the that's landscape. That talent has to navigate today. And it's in it's exacerbated by the fact that reality stars are now celebrities. You know what i'm saying. I'm celebrities to meet. You were celebrated for something. And it's not necessarily sticking a firecracker up your ass you know but now people will pass to fame. What's the pass to the richest. And now there's another bath that strangely enough runs parallel to yale. Juilliard everything else you know. Yeah well but i think i think ultimately you you really do have to get real with yourself and say like what do i want and what's meaningful to me. What do i guess. Just follow that and not chase. Try not to chase too much of anything else. Does like you fame. That's great. what do you want to be famous for right. Well yeah because also you've worked on so many cool things and you've gotten to be on so many your page is long. You know there's a lot of stuff on there to see how many series you've been a regular on and good shows you know like so. It's know i imagine that. Is that more fulfilling than having just done phil or maybe would only do like a film or two a year but you know when you're working in television there's a much higher turnover rate. I was want to be a working actor. You know it's i mean i. I did the dream exceeded what i dreamed about. You know when when i was you know in college or whatever and you know i mean i like ernest borgnine three hundred credits to his name know. So and the world is different There was a time you know like in the eighties and early nineties. Whatever you're film actually become actress tv actor and never the twain shall meet rob now any place we catch tony winning oscar. Winning catherine zeta jones. Just doing our show. You know what i mean. So lines are blurred narrow street television television so so people are going to the good work is not just what work is where the good work is. But i've also started looking at. What is the experience. In addition to what is the outcome because the life experience that i garner is becoming as important to me. who am i working with. You know It's you know when when the life you know needed to replace an actor and they brought in this day. Would you do this like yeah in a heartbeat to episodes great working with billy bob dunne. I don't even need to read the script. You know because he had been buddies for a long long time you know. I ended up in adverse of film. It's out right now simply. Because i was doing a lot of the convinced thomas nichols and has a lot at a table next to each other and eluded said hey man i'm doing. This limit is agreeable up and coming. Asian american director. Brian metcalf there will be great free. Would you take a look at it. You know it would only take a day. And sean asked him was already attached seasonal buddy in a site you know. I want to support independent film. It's not always about the paycheck. It's not always about the size of the project. Simba migrate us. Love stories have been with independent films. You know that. I still like you know today and people continue to discover because of streaming and everything else and so. It was easy for me to say yesterday. And then all of a sudden miller and mickey worker the cast who well okay you know very good nothing but it's also You know hearing that or hearing about how you got the directing job on agents of shield you there is a certain amount of like auditioning for things but there's also just like staying in the game for a long time getting to know people you know showing up for work on time doing a good job and then word of mouth you know like nothing really beats word of mouth you know when i think about jobs that i addition for and got through that regular track versus jobs that were like more word of mouth or just through some other. It is far more the ladder you know the longer i feel like you're in the business that just going in reading for something getting a callback that does happen But this other way you know you're next to a guy that convention you share i'll take. Oh no. i'm in this movie. Oh wow well that worked out exactly right or there are some times where there are missed is no doubt but but as you said i mean having a career you know you just keep moving forward and then every once in a while being exceeded your expectations. Adver certain did is a bigger thing than i expected it to be. You know But but at the same time like you said that word of mouth is major adding the mistake mistaken. A lot of people make because the bad news travels a lot faster than the good news. Man you know we'll yeah especially because this you know you work on this movie adverse this director that you mentioned or anyone working on the crew. It could be like the second idea whatever. Then they'll go onto something else and then that we know and it's like oh you know it was really great to work. Well let's put him in this you know like in so it's it really is about just having good experiences and again following your gut and working with good people in nice people and professional people and and and if you're lucky enough to do that and you've been lucky enough to do that for you know forty years. It's pretty fucking amazing. I mean that is. That is a real accomplishment. She'll blowing my mind man. It still blows my mind. And i sit there and go then. I really looking forward to what's coming somebody. Somebody mentioned the other day. It's like clint eastwood. He's directing into a seventy s. I intend to do that. You know earning active until his nineties. That's great man. You know. I want to be there. Got okay here you watch that. We have to do pickups clear view. Yeah the pickups then but but you know to sort of chasing all of the emptiness stuff though. That doesn't really lead anywhere. Because it doesn't matter you could literally be the most famous person in the world. And then someday no one's gonna care you know all these stories about marcus aurelius becoming the the emperor of rome. And he would sort of mention all these previous emperors. No one would really remember. He was talking about and he's like yeah exactly and you couldn't. You couldn't get any more powerful than emperor of rome within a generation. No one gives a shit anymore. So maybe just follow your gut and don't kind of focus on that other stuff but it's just especially with social media that that kind of attention is so alluring because you know it's just a constant struggle with keeping the ego in check l. Like not being seduced by those things that kind of give you a rush kind of remembering who you are and what's important to you. It's nice because you can you can. You can be pulled into the moment you know but but fortunately for me. I mean you know that it's always been about a long runs. Always been about the big picture you know and and and it's also the older. I've gotten the more. I realize it's it's about life to you know being a dad and having a family and you know cooking and taking out the garbage and stuff like that. I mean the. I have a book out as well that i did with my wife. Yvonne churn loves and and she had done these drawings back in the nineties of these mangoes style. Japanese influence droid tinderbox. Hans christian andersen wrote. We were dating. I saw them. I thought wow this incredible you know a movie and so i wrote the screenplay realize that nobody was going to give me that much money to direct sifi so we set about doing the ball. Will it took ten years. You know off and on in writing you know. My job kept getting away but but just committed to this idea of. We're going to finish this book one day and a you know the pandemic actually helped to where i could finish the the edits the rights and everything else and she gets thirty illustrations. Yeah they're amazing and the book is out. It's done incredibly well. It's called the tinderbox still driven vera but my point is that it was a commitment to something that i was going to see through to the end and it wasn't about The instant gratification. You know it was. It was about honing it and revisiting it and keeping it alive even if to a drawer you know there are projects that i still. We'll come back around and and it's like what you said you can get caught up in the minutia of things and and the drama of this. This thing happened new orleans. Whatever and just go you know. What is the journey. And you know this this will district pass and keeping perspective on who you are and where you are on the world. I mean we still talk about it today. People who get read their own press too much no really get a little too full of themselves who they are in the moment and they're the ones you tend to fall hard when nobody's paid intention for months well and also It you start to become suspicious of anything that feels like instant gratification. It's just that it's like when you should be working. It's like doh work just you know. Go d i don't know he eat a box of doughnuts and play a bunch of video games. That feels nice and listen that. It's good to have that fallon now. Has its place. But but it's just you wanna be able to just keep the balance strike the balance and especially when you've been working on something for ten years and you've written a lot of stuff written plays and written screenplays. And how do you this for people who are maybe stuck in the middle of a project right now a long term project that they don't see they don't see the latter out of it at the moment. How do you maintain your passion. How do you maintain especially because in that time you change and evolve as a person. So how do you even you know infused who you are like. Maybe you've changed a lot from when you started it. So how do you. How do you know when to keep going. How do you know when to just let it go. How do you know how to keep your passion for it. How do you do that. i you know it's interesting because as artist you know we were always good insecurities you know what i mean. It's the whole fraud syndrome. And am i good enough or you know how to other people. Perceive me in you get this wachovia where where you know you reflect back on yourself. I mean clinic is the one is the people who have no doubt. I'm the best read. Maybe take another look in the mirror but it is. It's it's about developing an honesty with yourself all but even beyond that though it the balance is knowing that you've got enough knowing that you deserve this you know and if you're working at it that you earning it you know so so all especially with the writing. Because i'm only it's like people go. Oh hey you were seniors. I gotta call myself. Because i have friends who are like singers. I'd be like rally good singers. Call myself that when somebody says. Oh you're the writers recite will i. I happen to be friends with a couple of times bestselling author. So i'm gonna beckwith things in perspective for me you know but i. I can't read something that i've written or look at a performance that given a man. That's that's pretty good. There's a reason why doing this you know and and not being too self congratulatory about it but at the same time not having false modesty. It's like no man. I'm good erin. This you know but it feedback is a good thing. I have to say creek. Johnson who wrote the law meyer novels continues to the series was based upon. And then i'm just mentioned crispus alley new at a huge success with the flight attendant. Both of those guys are friends of mine and gave me such not. Just great advice support saying this is good man. You gotta finish this. You got to stick with this you know and and so you kinda can't get too down in the moment and give up. I mean it's just like people who say well you know. How do i become an actress. It well you gotta work at it you know and you can't. You can't expect to be carrying a movie. You know the first time enough for you gotta develop a thick skin where you know the rejection. You can't take your personally and it's still you know but you have to look at the big picture. i mean. some people took an acting class. And you know. I didn't on a tv series. That's going to do that anymore like well. Then that wasn't their passion because it's the same thing with stand up. It's like it's it's i if if you were to look at it from an outsider's perspective it would seem very not rewarding for quite a while but there's still something about it where even if you have a bad show or no one pays you to do it for years. Something still says. Yeah but i still need to get up there and do it and that's kind of how you know that that's that's maybe where you're passion lies but also that idea of deeming yourself worthy of saying no i'm i'm worthy. I know i can do this. But is you can avoid being cocky as long as you're always open to learning you know as long as you're open to the growth process those two things can coexist. It's not it's not one or the other. i think. I think it can be so easy to be self deprecating. Because you don't want to be you don't wanna come up as arrogant and it's like. Yeah but it's still okay to be comfortable with who you are and go no. I'm i'm good at this. I still feel like. I always have more to learn. And i think that's the key to keeping you from turning into an asshole being open to listen an open to or but once you feel like you said like what you feel like. Yeah got this thing figured out. It's like oh shit. I well dunno learning and like you said i mean with the novel but it immediately applies to acting like you know the first time i got cast as a dad. Oh yeah just wait a second. I had that and i. It's being lost with who you are. You know the. I mean on product. I'm all this person gas. Yeah okay crazy uncle lou. That's that's fine. I- i'm okay with embracing that and saying this is what i bring to the table. This is this is why function within this piece of storytelling. You know and not trying to pretend that that you know you're still the Although i get to be a love interest on the show. I you know i i still get you. Don't chase bad guys and tom cruise date her. These do just fine so being in our lease and to you know it's like sort of finding that you know sort of finding the right thing i mean. No one can ever really tell you who you are what you should do. You know i mean it's i know the business does tend to sort of pick and choose and put people in boxes and certain ways but at the end of the day you know like you said. You're start your starring on the show. You get to do all these things and maybe before you did that there would have been someone who have been like. Oh no you're too old for this like fuck you. I'm not you know like exactly you. Just can't people are always quick to tell you what you can't do or how things are quote done but that also means to me that's always a signal that means there's room for innovation because if people have decided that these walls up. They're just doing that because they're just kind of being lazy and going. Well i don't wanna have to think outside the box and someone always comes through the put you in that box man you know. And that's something that. I fought against my entire career in all. It's it's it's why i sifi in comedy in orion and thank goodness been rewarded for it. I mean it goes back to my teacher training. I've been interested in all of these things. That's why i write this. Why direct. I wanted to be a storyteller from way back when and not just a star whatever you know i hate that term but you know that that that i mean the people who just are like kerry films major movie stars and there's not a lot of them to me that sounds like a very confining i mean like yeah okay fine you know. They make shit tens of millions of dollars and they you know they do big budget movies that everyone sees but at the same time i don't necessarily feel like they have the the freedom to move around a lot and shift and make fun choices. It always kinda has to be within these certain confines. Well if you veer off too much this way then you might. If you're afraid of losing that young i'm in service of it as having a career where it's like. Yeah you could start a movie. You could do a low budget indie. If you want to do a series you could do a commercial. You can direct a thing you could affect. Yeah yeah when you look back at your career like what an amazing journey to get to do all of those things and not be confined by any sort of fake constraints of while you have to do. This is we. It's because his fear. Amanda fear of losing something as opposed to the excitement of gaining something right. And and that's been the thing. And i don't know man it's it's everybody has different passing in everybody's you know. Satisfied gratified by by a different things. You know going back to something you said earlier on defining what you want you know and i think that's that's where like young people. They don't really know what they want. Just yet and in some respects the end result gable. I want to be an entrepreneur. Okay you know. I wanna i wanna have a line of tennis shoes or a clothing line in a sense and everything okay. What are you gonna duty yet that you know and also do you know it's like i think a lot of times they just of flash forward to the you know. They're on the ballot. A yachts winking Martini glass like yeah. But i don't think anyone who runs a fortune. Five hundred company has a super chill lifestyle. You know it's like it's like you never stop working and what that does to you emotionally what that can do to the relationships in your life and you know intimacy just not having and i don't know if the truth you like i don't think i think it's nice to just have the balanced life where it's like. Yeah you get to work but you get to have your family you get to travel so bright. You know it's like that to me. Seems much more enjoyable than you know everything you do. you know. it's like every choice you make could tank company and people can be out of work and then you'll never work up got but what you said was very profound about you. Know the focus about focusing on what you're losing rather than what you're gaining. It's like they're afraid of losing an an old type of thing as opposed to looking at us like yes but it's the opportunity to gain a new thing and that is the process of life. So it's if we could just ship are being a little bit sometimes like oh well. This job went away at this. Saying it's like yes. That thing may be dying but that means that it could fertilize the soil for something new and exciting to grow. If you're open to that if you're looking in that direction and aware to see those opportunities noman a hundred percent. I've it's funny my hands conversation to. It's like some of the politicians these days. I don't wanna be your off too far into this territory but you know they're so afraid of losing what they have their power their position that they no longer do the right thing they they take the path of least resistance and will even be critical and and you know change their values to to accommodate. You know what they perceive as as what's necessary for them to stay where they are as being you know being. I dunno productive will. That is the idea i mean. That's the key term in general the path of least resistance. You know because we. I think you know. The ego wants the path of least resistance. You don't wanna have to you know and so in your own work when you're writing play when you're writing a movie and you're stuck. I love to ask writers this question and you're stuck and it feels like fuck. I don't know what else to do. I don't have you know. How do you avoid the path of least resistance which might be. Just you know throwing it away giving up doing something else you know. And how do you know when to set something down. How do you know when the path of least resistance is actually productive because it kind of helps you recharge like how do you know. It's you know a if we could figure that out because bottle it you know we'd be those guys by. It's it's i. Do the pallet cleanser. You know if. I'm stuck especially in the writing. I'll put it away. You know. go go read a book a lot of times workout and the fact that i actually have a day job in alert lines do that. Sort of thing and say unshaven. All of that you know could contribute to a. I've noticed that whenever my juices flowing in one area it helps in the other area though. So which is why. It's strangely enough keypad. And the computer on the set with me. And i before the pandemic i was actually already working on the on the revisions of the gender box. When i was filming prodigal son and and one hand washing the other And like not having to jim in a million years. But i got a yoga mat. I got the straps. I got the whole thing. And if i'm not there that i know that i have to give the idea of the seed of an idea. Time to germinate or marinade. Or whatever and i go off and once again it's weird because it it very much is a physical thing. Get the juices flowing your sweat going. Get the blood pumping you know and and it just seems to spark you know a solution that fortunately i don't have to wait too long to figure out you know. Yeah and i do think physical movement does sort of create mental movement to even just like walking outside you getting a little son. You know like walking the dog or whatever it work it can just sort of unlock because you can really get frozen you know and you're everything your body is telling you this instant gratification thing. Don't get up don't go outside. I don't buy off come on. That's not gonna that's gonna be uncomfortable and if you can somehow just go ya hear what you're saying brain minute just do it. I'm just going to try it and you know like when you get out there. It's like this isn't so bad all right and then afterwards ago. I got him so glad i did that. And also while i get that additional reward of brain told me not to do it and i didn't have to listen to it. It's so funny because it's like yeah okay little. That joke was forced. Why because that's exactly it. You forced it you're constipated and yet heart attack like elvis. 'cause you're trying to take a duck right i mean it's it's just it's you you wanna sometimes just let it let it breathe but also you know maybe that is just sort of in your mind rather than just putting into bed forever just going. I'm just gonna sit. While i go to move do something else and then oftentimes when you when you fight against you know like oh i got to figure this out i got your brain just gets more nodded and then when you just let it go. Oh my god. The solution came to me. You know look. I was in the shower. I was in the middle of the night here on a walk. I wasn't even thinking about it. And then all the sudden to ps connected. You're like why. Didn't i see that before it was right there. The whole territory. Any any you know we let the subconscious. Yeah yeah well. I know that your time is limited. I don't wanna keep you all day and are you shooting today radical or should we. I'm not a yesterday. And i got a couple of days off a pretty exciting. Doing a root canal tomorrow was really great. Oh that's so fun. What a great way to distract yourself exact thing in the world just focus on anything else when someone's drilling into your skull. We're good is it. Is it going to be extensive. Or is it just like just a little bit. I guess every root canal is extensive. I it's my first one so among the lewisite exciting through gentle. I mean my god. It's what a what a fun new experience you get to have as a we've gotta be all dolly as long as you can make that deal with yourself where you go okay. This might not be. But maybe i can use it for something you know you could win it in. It's an experience that it's the birth of a new experience. Yeah yeah works well. People should know that Your film adverse is out march ninth. Lionsgate's like you said it's you and shawn asks them to penelope and miller and mickey rourke and you know lou you're just the nicest. My mom texted me. How much she adores you over as she said i love him so much because she knew i was podcasting. You so please tell Please tell your wife. We said hi. And when you're around and it's okay and everyone you know and healthy vaccinated. Let's see each other and have a meal. I always enjoy seeing you a person. Look forward to lydia's well. Excellent thank you so much lou. Diamond phillips has pain on the podcast. We don't have a live audience. I'm the audience. I we're just at our homes but i wanted to give it like a real in studio talking dead style experience. That way. all right. I you hugs. Take care tom payne. I said hello and hope to see. I'd rather the end. I need gaining complete enjoy.

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