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Haunted Crime Scenes 15: Dissection Class || Tagalog Horror Story

Stories Philippines Podcast

16:12 min | 1 year ago

Haunted Crime Scenes 15: Dissection Class || Tagalog Horror Story

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Killer Pet Sitter

Mojo In The Morning

11:20 min | 8 months ago

Killer Pet Sitter

"The morning show follow us on twitter. Instagram take tock we would love for you to check us out if you like the show. Also do this for us. Go to the iheartradio app. I'm gonna walk through this real quick. Click on the iheartradio app and then scrolling there in this right mojo in the morning and then follow our podcast. That's the show podcast. And after you do that he. Race so backstay space. Backspace more mojo. That's the after show. Podcast we love free to follow us on You know podcast wherever you get podcast. But i heard radio app specifically because that's how we get paid i. I wonder if i should be forthcoming with this. So we're going away for the weekend and chelsea was freaking out because we did not have anybody to Pets it henry and louis and we were trying to figure out what to do as far as that was concerned so i had called One of my friends. Who has a dog and i said. Hey who the person that pet your dog. Last time 'cause he raved about how great the This person was and he said you know the the person's name and i to say their name on there. Because obviously when i tell you you don't want their name on the radio and He said yeah he said i think that they would be. It'd be great. I'm like okay. Cool 'cause he raved how he came back home and his his dog was just like in love with this girl who's great. He also said that she pet sat at his house. He trusted her fully came home. His house was cleaner than it was when he left and he has nobody. They're cleaning but himself so she cleaned out the obviously the house. So i told chelsea about this and chelsea. I don't know if i her to stand at my at at the house but maybe she can watch the dogs yesterday. He goes down me something about her. That i think you said something about before. The last time that she pet sat for someone which was like a weekend or two ago. The dog died in a freak accident. i guess. The dog napped cleaning supplies off of a table and a bottle broke hitting the and the dog ended up swallowing a bunch of poisonous liquid dying. Oh that's sad but that's an accident but do i. Do i now have to tell that to chelsea before we do anything because he didn't tell me that ahead of time he told me nothing but the positives but last time i talked to him yesterday. He says he tells me this story. Do i have to tell chelsea and now freak out. Well i i think you have to tell her because she can be so pissed if she finds out after the fact and and figures out that you knew and didn't say anything to her so i hope that she will. You know. I mean it is an accident my life so hard meghan. Why is my life so hard. That story so sad i mean. Why can't it. Megan ever go right. You know what. I mean like you know what i'm talking about. If you didn't know that. I've been crying that to myself for the past two weeks. I don't i don't know i feel like there's a cloud or something these days you know. There's been a cloud since march sixteen. So yeah i would say how i feel. Yeah all right. So i so i have to say something be honest about it but if i don't have information that she would be pissed if you didn't give her that information yup but then again you said it was a guy did by burl. It's nothing you did so she can't be mad at you yes you could you imagine by the way your pet sitting for somebody. Oh god and the dog or whatever. The pet is dies while your pets. Has that ever happened. Anybody is what do you ever had the animal. While you're i mean. I don't wanna laugh but could you imagine and so i had. I had one where my mom actually The goldfish died as a kid and my mom ended up going. Meyer getting another goldfish. And i could tell because the color was a little bit different on seismic front door. So you can't try to swap out the goldfish. Let me see your mom. Switch it well. That's a goldfish joe tomorrow. That was my baby goldfish. Live do have goldfish. But i have glow fish there. Hot pink and purple games and pam is. The name of. The woman are fabulous nanny. Who's with the kids while i'm here at work. And she texted me a couple of weeks ago and said george is missing from the fish tank so they have gotten out of this thing before. I know that sounds crazy. But if you don't have the lid on the right way. They can like they're nuts. They can flip themselves out. So i thought oh my god i laying on the floor somewhere. It turned out. He was stuck behind the filter totally fine but she thought that one of the goldfish or one of the glow fish. Excuse me had escaped and she was going to have to do damage control fish. So here's the funniest part. Even little glow fish. She had to call. Andrew tacoma over to the fish on you from the look. I'm kirby's face was the greatest album what's up michelle michelle just michelle. Michelle there you guys dylan. Wait michelle your professional pet sitter. Wow i didn't know that they is there a league that you guys plan or what is it. We're buying insured of the inner International sitting association. Doing so. okay. So no so so tell me. Have you ever had a situation where a pet died while your pet sitting. I've had one pet diane my time. Yeah what happens when you're a professional pet-sitter in that happened do they knock you down to the minors now I called the the client and That the dog to the back and then Then we went from there and the top to the client and so the dog was already sick. That pre existing shoe passed away. She had internal bleeding. This is good. This is good to know that there's professional pet sitters shelby shelby. Pet die while your pet sitting had three pets grew you. Go to work okay. So i'm not a professional pet sitter. I was pet sitting for a coworker of mine and they did it. I my watch but like a week or so. After i was pet sitting there cat passed away like due to old age. Their cat passed away. The goldfish passed away and the rabbit passed away within like a few weeks i felt so bad and that doesn't make me look really good. But did they watch their dogs again. By the way they must have been really desperate. If they're calling the lady who'd killed three hundred and you got to sign up shove it'd be a part of the national association of professional pet sitters. Listen to this one here. Hey mojo in the morning what's up. How you doing don. I don't what happened to you. And your pet sitting dogs. I popped out. Did you know that that could happen. No i had no idea. I was raising how to an emergency vet and they had to end up taking the eyeball out and and the is shot away when they got back their dog with his is where did the eyeball fall to the ground. Shock to the hair of the The dog was head around the is. It was shot. So the here on the i would fall to the ground and the dogs would eat it before. I noticed that it was gone here. Hear what you say. Your dog is listen to this. Tragedy samantha morning samantha. What added to your daughter's goldfish. We his tank on the window sill in the kitchen just so we could see the pretty colors and south and i was rushing around the kitchen washing dishes. And i just noticed. I'm like where's mr noodles and i'm trying to panic and look down in. Somehow he had slipped out of the tank and was in the garbage. They are nuts. These fish realize as soon as you take that. I didn't even have a lead. I couldn't put my hand in there. So i just prayed and another one. She was so young. Yeah oh my gosh Listen to and this story darren either. Yes sir darren. Your brother had a fran watches cat now. You finish the story for us. Yeah so my brother went on vacation. yes friend to watch his cat for him and he got back he was gone for maybe two weeks. We got back and you know they matt up at his apartment talk for a little bit friend left and then shortly after he texted back and he said hey by the way. Your cats in your freezer It died off. I guess he didn't know what to do with the cat so he just put it in the freezer. Do something with the way text by the way like. He didn't tell call him and tell him. Hey by the way around with your your cat. Your cats Sec or your cat dying after he left all my gosh saying why would the brother not come home. See 'em and go. Hey where's my cat. I don't know. I guess that's a cat thing must be and must be a cat thing. My cats in the freezer good learn the disrespect. You put the cat next to the pizza hut. Don't apologize for laughing if somebody during spikes phones this morning fifty on mojo in the morning like it.

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Ruben is Now Very, Very present.

Rambunctious Bombastic Newscast! (RBN: The voicenotes)

38:49 min | 9 months ago

Ruben is Now Very, Very present.

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Rambunctious bombastic newscast aka rpm. The voice nights brought to you by an hicks by moving winter. Now i was willing to bet as podcast about a Backlog episodes which is why. I say things like as of the time of recording this podcast because it is like subtitled. The boys nights so like when i have what or something. I thought in which which i feel like people constantly ashley game from in which people can she like. Come off this podcast be like. Oh yeah okay. Chris salmon and things on the best but then it's like it is because of the people who i didn't taxed. I just sent his where instead. You know it's like. I didn't have anyone to talk the pain right now. About things going on at high appeal his podcast. So a thing you know. But i always think that's better because now i can put all these thoughts and feelings aside and be more present in the moment i feel like i'm the president present in the man right now to miss thing but like yeah is present. I'm not sure. But i feel like and just really able to to seek out people's needs and you know months myself appropriately needs which i think is an amazing thing that i have not seen that everyone is having a podcast on blog. A twitter feed and everything else did. But it's like at this point in time. I kind of being incision media or being creative in any capacity am an eclectic line of thought which is a nice allot people and i think the internet is a blessing and a curse because well defined full and it citing life. But it's like no longer have to see how people in order to make your life means something and that alina it's thing because it's like i mean hell if among anything almond hanson. That may was a youtube. Let's that's how people think these days but it's like if this thing if this registered is not working out that the swiped ripe maybe find someone him. I am accustomed to yemane which is why i still give the side that people. Who if they and on wanted. I didn't want to take away from me. But i think it's quite strange how it's like. I went to the state primary school together and this is always what we're doing. I mean get yourself breathing. Room here south to like at least leg. You have a little bit right but then again like live you life. That's what does he wanna limit. But yeah like like i unless you met someone who is bryan bryan eclectic on the million this kind of me. I understand but i've nine scheme of things. I get looking out at least some kind of breath. Different kind of bess. You've you on the display. People were to a kid and as recorded us of ice. I'm recording best. Not twenty five. Yeah so maybe gab. But people british people that live life very very quickly very very quickly and that to me is quite quite scary hardware thinking that i should be having grandchildren my now. Oh yes hud. The people go on a hill before twenty nine. Okay gme your lens retail on like free means which which are i mean. Anything is a blessing in the cast. Right he's been it has been as hasn't brought out in this world. Then that's great. I find i find being to is. That oftentimes can become custody mature as well that ends well. But i've talked. 'cause i have inherent for a i announced to the end of time and it's i've been talking about banning is can Anything else but some trust into as being i just saw like send us rate will talking shit things people made like as piccio and eber but know if if i need a certain mission and you you've got i'm going to try and finish from now. That's that's all that is gosh in my life. i wish i wish spat. Gosh i wish that i could just mention. I did at noon. Someone does not It's like i have gone through as it has in and it's like some people just like another is like well unhappy well. I'm happy hour to buy sandwiches. Treaty settlements Receive my excitement. But sometime if i'm going through something or if you might you know what they made up here but looking at this thing i buy it. I feel like mangled year has changed as a result of it. Like what you have to say. I have nothing to say. As like. But i thought you were at least be like. Oh what really you know what unconsciously house pets patching you and you know. I'm sorry who. I did simply that simple. But people didn't even want to pull that bull shot. They're semites me like back as well. Actually if you if you add add that maybe i will not be in sight but but like eastern donation Yes but you weren't able to control that. We have to envision the physically abusing pardon. Got i have reinfecting on. He doesn't want to remind emissions anymore. Him dead time for him. You know what i mean and it started exhausting trying to expect other people. Emotion intelligence is designed by the massive. And it's something that is is it's not mandatory people ask you keep on iki and even do a complete details about some of them in the library and the manager was like yes. I'm sorry how you can see that sent. You got the wish she'd said it was like zoom martin uh been front life itself as a lack of emotional investment and things things that's like someone is upset by something and it's like he didn't want to croak is not a thing but it's like it's like god is stood mike how as reliable you are encouraged to resolve ending an automation. For the sake of of of what. I that's all. I never listened. The gosh my life has been bravery. Penn has has bullets like god. It's almost like my house that does happen. You can commit now but pains. Take off your shoes. 'cause i've never been but i see i didn't have more chocolate cake or do just just just the pardon me i always got when i made this podcast and say sorry. Cost like has sex as as at alike may give you half an hour to an hour of my life every how often goodness day he pulled expect that you will drop your emissions. Says like really wanted. Waste time in into fistfights. That's like announced. We'll hang on what last to be as normal lesson thing if it been beaten and abused for all of your life no more. It's like oh well. That's not how i want my bay and it's so disappointing. One thing when you trust trust people to come into your then they just do so some random nonsense as like cleans. It's not me day. God damn keeps be a knife. Hasn't how is being links on crying. Nothing about it your child child ousted. They got the new way. As or this at this led to get inward you mean. I have thought burke and creative thank. That's something is clinging onto this include. Live in 'cause if you don't have bad god. Sometimes i saw like give benefit of the doubt three but because like people do things et purpose the level of consciousness appropriate to the level of understanding appropriate t like the the mission that's been in the brain and let me be very clear substantially superstate between lutheran attending the golden sunday for all good impure and knowing that other people does that people that he even for all human beings. But it's like. I saw that that that he would be to at least baton and eligible have inventions right. Isn't that what separates us from machines to isn't that what supposed to be. Isn't it why. I thought was god know that i'm working on this train wreck macos support out there like i feel like i'm able to be that originally for other people so i just for me. That's that's truly app. commission is also who didn't give a shit about anybody anything then. Okay i understand. Blow was like who pays i be able to understand but it's like people are able to be like maybe the purpose time or or maybe this person is sending to. Maybe that's the thing that i did back at this point. Is i like this. I'm not ready as the ones we love for me. Personally i now. I feel about it but then like just like coexisting. When the having witnessed ships of the french people have arguments people to write about everything. But the wildness. Well people who up in my life is that then lynch the brown old ready for this you what. You're rude like people. Don't mind you know what i see. I see this and it's like it's a shame that setting didn't happen because of that. And i'm sorry and i have fat. Hippy has gone and hopefully in the future. We can try things like we saw. Now we know how to speak the now if you can get poets like i didn't get that like thus what he is so simple as soon like is what like acting for my way. You have to look at my walks away. Samson way me is that. I seem to be disappointed at some people who who seems to be very reach for hell like i didn't have the national league. My brain like a must what words me out. Certainly he's some doing. She admits level of an reach for other people. And when i wanna encounter but he will mouth odor or helps it nice rates happy and they have not given themselves night beginning. They have not even thought that emotions are about today tonight to image is like what get it. It's all about. Hey chon check boxes. Like what about what about respect. When does that come into play. That people will be also death if it doesn't justify thing to do fuck fucking game. I'm me. I'm not about this micro things. Small things can get things in the world during onto and then but it was like you know what this is significant to me regardless of you are not a bit of medicines. You're not this for me. A paper but i tell you today all the things. For example somebody populists lay. Her name is. I'm time i'm not gonna pretend someone or someone someone is like a wrong thing that what is fine make like the out west things that have gone worse. Things are happening in the world in my life. And it's like you know has but like with people like you know what i buy this psychology invasion eventally and this has changed the cost of my life. Let me let me let cheated. Life grow up like some of unless just now the head of us from because like you know we didn't get to see the pebble. Whatever hockey ed also like what is like whatever but when it comes down to comes down to onto what this happened. And i feel like my needs of being when matt's i feel like you this on discredited and complicit in what was going on like you know i feel like you give a shit and if the other person whom saint onto does not want to at least at least at least at nulla jet doesn't take at least acknowledge it even it's like an the event owning my feelings at puberty. You know actually. I think you interpreted that the wrong way nine. But i think they've been having by think you'll get you bet to deepen it. Never in my life has said that to me now never but it's like but but that say i've been taught that friends come and guy you know but it's like we'll define a friend benjamin guy yes but it's like if people the spot in my life have lake how not been up to up to Go because like alongside Time any company is soon. But i was like you know it's it's very very needed have standards when like you want to a baria something. It's like oh we didn't think that people would be kind of fence entire that kind of thing. Legit like oh. I didn't that soon. People would like just cheers him but like something to wipe the day of the show. On like i didn't. I didn't know that was the. I didn't know that was the default setting for the best minority. People melanie i. I didn't that. I feel like a hundred. This person might manipulate me. Because i've seen you before. I didn't know that i had to save myself against emission I would have to have to try and set myself from being belittled undisputed every week every moment of like mind jedi to self-fulfilment. I didn't know that said doesn't miss. My son does have changed. And i don't want to meet us on this. We'll have to be in the back. Bama that it'd be on the have on the back splash doesn't have to be on the I'll get your picnic give regardless of how to get your best when i feel like the won. T feel four wherever the hell none your best you mean audio human our time to yuna that kind of thing as lord ludd right. A sibling davis mass kwanza. On new car gomez did okay. I didn't know why synced to the house. I well goodness remedy like eat like you know. Yeah like this isn't sometimes. We might sometimes. It just put our just like like ray like okay. That's today buka. That's fine we want. Okay my own donald ted. I guess we just built on top of the now. Except for this. Like if i felt i had. 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I'm not here for it anymore. Any longer and it has to be a man from time of that then sibiya maybe wait so they went on my deadens had like maybe like running having friendships but baby. I've seen people who are like who missions and it's like eight of them then again maybe that's poverty fallen in. What kind of coldhearted you have to be to to be like physically visit sat and then what what how best even trees the even treason when Trees upset we spread. Gosh goodness me. I am so now as like me. I is a bit like what it means. Not like in a way. But it's like gosh. I'm very very aware that. I'm very the where i wanna pack on out. Went on on down right. Well what. I'm cry embryo wealthiest things strange man like someone my mission. But it's like wow you well why smick so set for and why is no nothing those god awful but like i'm not talking about being than think about a oh it's like girl is supposed to be the mag at bleed correct. So it's like this was not me say and my eyes closed. I like this when things online need background. People happy reinsured is like maybe live in such a way. But it's like dan down dam dam. I think i did bill to enjoy because always one. That's act by. I took typically ads go to has go go could split i in two. And then pepex because god. We interesting people's emotions. Like absolutely. I'll go i swear to. You'll be like you know what the fan me and this past economic financial and out a drink anakin fame laid. I know i can you know You got down speaking. What's behind you to remind flight is like like was too what Without like. I don't know whether i should be answering that. Yeah probably friends. This feels like an agreement while life was invested in my life. one ticket. Michelle there no one team to can anyone. Anyone gusset around. Maybe i should have been a bit more simple and maybe frying never had a simple peasant companion them. That emotional needs that was precious. But he's like this week. 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Because i need to know who. I can count these things. Count on you then please. Life centered inside. Please allow time to to to seeing that people can be not anymore and didn't have then she to waste do this things. Yeah i'm then now. So oh yeah yeah. What do you think like something desired or is the me in an age now where west like just input output husks of what whatever hebron beings could have been. That's the thing an office before. Not as someone who can hugh who you can trust. You're on an image. Don't jenny yet. People making odd if people missions says like yeah by the way. I'm going to go so thank you so much for letting to ambushes messages caps. Hey i'll be on. The voice needs but she by an hosted by recruitment. Yes let's tonight thanks bye.

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AEE 1485: How To Be A Well Rounded English Learner

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20:32 min | 10 months ago

AEE 1485: How To Be A Well Rounded English Learner

"This is an all ears. English podcast episode. Fourteen eighty five how to be a well rounded english learner. Welcome to the all ears. English podcast downloaded more than one hundred fifty million times. Are you feeling stock with your english. We'll show you how to become fearless and fluent by focusing on connection not perfection with your american hosts lindsay mcmahon the english adventurer and michelle kaplan the new york radio girl coming to you from colorado and new york city u. s a and to get your transcripts delivered by email every week go to all ears english dot com forward slash subscribe. Is it better to be well rounded or to focus on specific things in your personal and professional life today a listener asks us about the meaning of this word. Listen in for our opinion today. Hey michelle how're you doing today. How's it going. Hey lindsay i'm good. I'm good. I'm excited to be recording today. How are you feeling good. We actually got snow here in colorado. It's october guys. We are recording this in october. I know this is coming out in december. But it's october. And i just can't believe that we get snowstorms here in october. It's a lot. yeah i remember. Once in new york there was a snowstorm on halloween and it was crazy so it's not something so like that would be the earliest. Yeah and that's a shock right. Exactly that's what i mean. We're talking mid october here late october. So crazy stuff. So what about you michelle. What's going on in your world and new york what's happening. Yeah well i'm actually. I'm i'm with my parents. So i'm enjoying being with them but i'm heading home soon. Back to new york and yeah. Everything's been good been spending time. We had my dad's birthday. Yeah lots of things going on. So yeah everything's fine over here and glad to talk to you. Love it love michelle. What are we getting into today. Do we have a listener question. We do. I'm excited for today's episode. As i am excited for every episode. I love this question. This is going to be super fun to talk about here. So yes we have a listener question about the word well rounded. So would you like to read the question for us. Of course michelle marina area. Hello guys thank you very much for all your help. I've been listening for more than a year. And i'm so happy that now i have a conversation with native speakers without being afraid to open my mouth. That is awesome. This is from daniel. Just call him. Do you are the best still. Have a lot to improve. Therefore can you help me. Because i can't understand the meaning of well rounded. Thank you again blend. Yes can you hear me. I'm sorry i don't know if you want me to stop you. But i think we're in the speaker view. No i think we're actually in the right view. Oh yeah that's okay. That's okay no problem. Our listeners can our little hiccups here and there is a hick okay. We'll get a bonus guys by the way. This particular episode is being recorded and put on youtube. So now you know that you can come over to our youtube channel and a hiccup. What does a hiccup michelle. What is a hiccup like a small mistake. So you guys. I see like being highlighted and it looks like it's in the view that we didn't one and yeah so i thought oh you know what. We're at the beginning of the episode. Maybe we should start over. But of course no i think long so. I'm glad you reminded me. But when i saw guys. Zoom is of funky right. It's kind of weird kinda messes with your mind. But what i can see is michelle and myself side-by-side. that's what we need to see from the person recording so we are good to go lindsay no worries so this question is from danu danu. Danu top militaru. Okay good question right. Michelle yes good question. We appreciate all questions from our listeners. There it's always good to know what you guys are looking for. Would you wanna learn. So that's why we try to answer as many as we can definitely send your questions to lindsay at all. Ears english dot com. We also wanted to think our listeners. Thank those who have reviewed our podcast. So what we wanna think today. Yes guys we haven't read these. Thank you notes in a while. But i want you to know that every week we do review these reviews we review the reviews and we appreciate them so much so big. Thank you to the people that are reviewed us in october starting with let's see l. Manco from ecuador. ailey. How you from. Canada trung when from the united states a win. Sorry that's how you pronounce that vietnamese name. Someone from sarah from iran russell from iran me metre from the us powell. Pella are from columbia. A who launched from china while another name from iran. Another person from china torrid tea from china. Michelle there are so many. I can't read the mall. it's crazy and a lot of these are five star reviews guys thank you so much. Thank you so much. Thank you definitely. We appreciate it so much and definitely guys. If you haven't reviewed elsia definitely rate and review us yes definitely go ahead and do it guys and we will try to read your name on the show all right. So let's get into this for our listeners. Well rounded guess yes. So what does it mean to be well rounded so it means that you are like a jack of all trades in a sense right so i love that expression so it means you have knowledge skills and talents in a lot of different places. So you're not just focused in one area especially intr. I would also say interests riot hobbies things that you like to do. You're not just one note right right. And i think that is a very very important to be well rounded. I mean. it's not just about being good about something it just means. Yeah you being go to many different things. I think of it as being in tune with or good at a variety of things right though about variety. Yeah do you agree with that lindsay. Yeah this is really interesting. I feel like we can do multiple episodes on this today. And i mean we could also talk about in your professional life. Is it better to be well rounded or be a specialist. You know what i mean. That's also really interesting but maybe we do that another day and today we are live. What topic yeah. I think it's a balance with this word. Literally think of us circle right. Yeah like you said you're kind of one note if you're not well rounded but the well rounded your a circle you have many different places you can go. You're not just all the same. You're you're not a square right. You're a circle. So i think that i mean that's what makes me think of core requirements in college which i think we've touched on a little med on. Yes right guys so when you enter the college level in the us knew usually some people don't know their major Some people are some people know what they wanna do. And but you still have to kind of take these core classes and usually you have to do like math or science or language requirement and they have these requirements that you have to fulfil and when i was in college. I was so angry that i had to do them. I was so frustrated. Because i felt like okay. Well i. i'm not questioning my major. Why do i have to take biology of the chesapeake bay class. And what is this doing. And that's kind of a deeper discussion. As if those things are valuable. And i think different countries might do it differently. But i can't appreciate this idea of wanting students to be well rounded and not focusing on their major. Yeah for sure. You're bringing bagging nightmares for my freshman year in college bio one. Oh one okay but it was hard as hack and my my roommate wendy. Kilby from western. Virginia really nice girls so smart she could just break open her textbook the night before and i would spend weeks studying for this test to get a b minus. She would break opener textbook the night before and a i was like. Are you kidding me. You didn't go to any of the classes you slept in. I know there are people like that. I am not that kind of a student. i. I don't know. I don't know what it is some people. They could just do that. I remember that in college. And you're like why can you do. It's true i think the mission. And i wonder though if this is going to change because i actually think in the professional world it's better to be a specialist right instead of a generalist but i think what colleges up until now and maybe in the future have been trying to do is make us more articulate and able to so so writing reading public speaking able to articulate an idea flesh out an argument challenging argument be constructive consumers of news things like that but bio part of that. I guess it's good to touch base on every topic a little bit but it seems like education higher. Ed yeah i think part of the thing is maybe part of the thinking. Is that that you never know what might appeal to you. Like if you're like maybe you go in thinking you're one thing and then you take that biology class and you're like oh my gosh. I had no idea that this was available to me. I didn't think in high school. I didn't like it. Maybe you had a bad teacher. Maybe you maybe veiled and you had this bad attitude but maybe you go into your bio classroom and your core college requirement and you have this amazing teacher here early in touch with it. And they apply things in different ways I wonder how that happens to my dad. Actually really how. My dad ended up being an optometrist. Which i dr. So he was taking a went to university of delaware psych one. Oh one freshman year right. Your basic psych is on every requirement. Every gen ed program in every university site when they got to the section about is and neurology the neuroscience and the way the i worked with the brain i love this and he fell in love and then he went and became an od. So it does happen sometimes but you have to get better. how yeah. I wonder how frequently happens but it also meant like what you said lindsay and again we can save this for another time. We'll touch on a little bit. It kinda makes me think of our strengths finder. Those then with the strengths finder guys lindsay had us. Do this really cool thing where you are. You take this quiz. And it really analyzes what are your strength and the idea behind it and this is also. I think the strengths finder You you talk a little bit about it. Maybe in the business course. Oh yeah for sure we. We've talked about it. And i exactly we do whole lesson on in the business guys go to others english dot com slash business to check that out but yeah go ahead michelle. Hey guys don't forget to rate and review all ears english in apple podcasts. Spotify or wherever you listen to the show let us know what you think about the show and we will do our best to read reviewers names out loud on the show. Thanks for listening so this idea that you want to focus on the things that you are good at right instead of kind of being working on everything to get a lot better at something that you're not. That's not your nate strength. Oh no you really a different strategy guys. This is all about strategy and so the strategy could be in business to actually just focus on what you know you're gonna and keep going with it. That's your strength and on that. So yeah that's that's a completely different idea. So is somebody who's focused on their strength. Not well rounded it. Goes back to lindsey when you said about being well rounded about different things so maybe in business you're laser focused but may die in yourself show life like you said where you consume news where you do different things you learn about things. Maybe that could be a well rounded or needing different people having different friends from different places you know instead of just you know right. Being well rounded. I agree with that. Michelle it's good in your life. But i think in your professional world. It's really good. If you could figure out what you do well and strengths. Finder ties into that. Also exposure to certain fields certain areas sub fields within fields. Right if you're the one person who can do that thing no one else around you can do it. You can make a lot more money right and you can have a lot more leverage in your workplace and so i think that that's good. I just think our education system in the us works again. Anti-theft works against what actually creates success in the working world. Right so for example if you have all as you get a d. in like i don't know it's in some maybe literature or or even math or something then your parents they focus on the d. or the seat right there like but they ignore the as what if we spent more time encouraging kids. Oh you're good at these other things let's hone. Let's deepen these skills that you're already good at because in the future you don't. We don't spend a lot of time outside of our fields right. Like i don't have to be that great ed bath certain things around around business right but i'm not running calculations. I'm not running computer simulations. So why does it matter in school. I think i think one of the things that the education system could improve on and again. Please let me know if this is how it is in your country. Because i've heard a little bit about this and other places that first of all. I think we're a little bit too young when we have to choose something that they had to. If i had to now all like make decisions maybe i would have made slightly different decisions. But i can't know that until you learn from trying things in life. Maybe i would have had a different major. Maybe you know. But i mean when i started college on youtube lindsey. I was seventeen years old. That's yeah i mean that's a baby like how are you supposed to know. So i think that's in a way you almost wish that there was like an extra year or some extra time where you're in college. You're focusing on the social aspect. You're taking some different core courses. Then like i just feel. Something's off things off. I mean i'd better listeners. From places like spain and france. I think they actually have to choose a lot earlier than we. Don't choose until. I didn't choose until my third year in college when i was a junior so i would have been about twenty junior year. And then you start getting into your majors in my college. You could do a gen ed the first two years and maybe think about your major. Most people are that way but i think in europe. I'm pretty sure that you guys you can let us know in the comments if you're on youtube or let us know if you set us a review on the podcast but i'm pretty sure you guys are choosing way earlier. When did you declare your major michelle. How right from the start really okay. That's interesting so okay. So that's more like a lot of our listeners. Probably i wonder if it's because you went to a huge college university have to declare it. I don't know if you do the genetic thing for two years. You probably could. But i at the time i mean this goes into so many things i mean like. I thought i knew what i wanted in hindsight. I wish i would have experimented a little bit more with different things. But that's just me as a not completely different things. But maybe i would've made slightly different decisions with the my strengths that i think are the same but maybe it would have taken me in different directions. Also a big believer. In if i had made one different decision. I wanna be where i am now and i want to. I am now so at my life is scary like that when you start to think about all the little decisions that led to something out. It's terrifying. Yeah the about this word well rounded so we were talking about a person being well rounded can okay things be well rounded. Do we only use a stock about people. Yeah i mean you could say. That was a well rounded argument. Right when you if you are on the debate team or something and you're debating you wanna hit it from multiple perspectives. An counterarguments rounded presentation. There's a lot of ways guys that we used this. Not just to talk about the person. Yeah right. Right right and lindsay. You touched on this expression. Think earlier the expression. A jack of all trades master of known. And we've actually talked about this on the show you back to forty four. Oh my gosh Which was to do or don't that is the question so guys if you want to hear a little bit more about that expression that's where you can hear it a jack of all trades. That's a great expression. A great expression are there any other. Maybe one or two michelle. Because we're running up on time here Other ways to say that you are well rounded anything else. We can leave our listeners with today. Michelle okay i will give one is versatile which is a beautiful word versatile or And then i'll give you one more. Okay i'll say multitalented different. That's just somebody who's good at a lot of things but You know this idea of having multiple things that you're working on going for ya. It also makes me think of the expression a renaissance person a renaissance. I'm pretty sure that's how that's used. I never heard it being used the idea that you're well rounded. You can do a lot of things really good stuff so this is a deep topic that i feel like i could go into a lot more michelle but i'm glad our listener asked the question because guys now at least you have the vocabulary word to use. What's the takeaway today. Michelle for our listeners. Well guys today we went into. We really really went into this word. Well rounded we talked about our thoughts. We talked about the education system in the us ally and we talked about business. And what does it mean. And when is it good to be well rounded and when do you want to stay focused so try out that today and think to yourself are are you well rounded. Maybe there are areas in your life where you think you know what i should be more well rounded in this area or maybe i should be more focused in that area. So it's a good thing to kind of think about in your own life how it applies to you. Yeah for sure. I mean for me in the last couple of years. I've become friends with people who i thought. I was well rounded. But they're way more well round right into even in terms of things like diet right. Having a well rounded diet nudges eating like vegetables all the time adding meat and adding different varieties of food to get healthier balance. I mean there's so many ways guys look at your life and think about. How can you make your life more well rounded like michelle. I love that idea. Michelle and guys de michelle This was fun. And oh my gosh when you brought up the diet stuff one day. I'll talk to you what it's like to try and make a toddler have well rounded. I can't imagine. I think we can do a lot more episodes on this but for now we'll cut cut it short by guys. This has been fun. Thank you to our listener for that question. Guys remember send us your questions and definitely review us. Yes review all ears english. Whether you're listening inside the iowa's app you can reviews in the app store or review us wherever you listen spotify apple podcasts. Whatever it is guys. Give us a review. Let us know what you think about the show and ask your question right inside that review our guys awesome. Good one take care bye bye. Thanks for listening to all ears english. If you're taking. I'll this year. Get your estimated score with our two minute quiz go to all ears english dot com slash my score and if you believe in connection not perfection than hit subscribe now to make sure you don't miss anything see you next time.

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AEE 1438: How to Use the Word Commitment To Maintain Privacy and Be Concise

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20:17 min | 1 year ago

AEE 1438: How to Use the Word Commitment To Maintain Privacy and Be Concise

"This is an. English podcast episode fourteen, Thirty Eight. How do you use the word commitment to maintain privacy and be concise? Welcome to the all ears English podcast downloaded more than one hundred, fifty million times. Are you feeling stock with your English? We'll show you how to become fearless and fluent by focusing on connection not perfection with your American hosts, Lindsey McMahon, the English adventurer, and Michelle. Kaplan. The. New. York radio girl coming to you from Colorado and New York City U, S A, and to get your transcripts delivered by email every week. Good. All ears, English dot com forward slash subscribe. Today, our listener Oleg asked us to clear up how natives used the word commitment. This word is diverse and useful get all of the handiwork you can use it in English today. Hey Lindsay how are you? Awesome Michelle? How're you doing? I'm good. I'm good. It is so hot I. Know I always talk about the weather, but it's just truth. But I'm very excited because it is going to rain today and it is going to cool everything down how's it out there I know it's it gets so humid on the East Coast so that rain cools it down a hairdryer out here. Shall I have to tell you Colorado in August has been really hot? It's a different kind of heat. It's like you're literally under that. Hairdryer. I look her the supineness of the East Coast. But most people prefer this dry heat you don't sweat as much but it doesn't feel as nourishing. It feels more like it's sucking the water out of my body. Okay. Well I I'm sure he'll. He'll get used to it does. To moisturizer more. Oh my gosh. You have to drink a lot of water. You have to have moisturizer on constantly reading replying yeah. It's these things I didn't have to do on the east coast my hair's awful out here it's. By Soya your hair looks great. will say that that there's nothing like having this amount of sunshine. There's so much sun as able and that really perks up my mood makes me like I never have to worry it's going to rain and ruin a party. We can always be outside which is awesome. Yeah. That's good. That's good. Awesome. So what Lindsey you have any commitments later today or do you have time to talk later while I'm going to dinner later on tonight but I'm timing the late afternoon okay okay. Awesome. Getting I don't need to talk later but I enjoy your dinner. Thank you. So we're going to be getting into this one word commitments. Okay So that's what we're talking about today. So I am excited for this episode because we have a really good question for Melissa named Oleg, but before we get to Oleg question. Guys. Free Live Web class say more. Tell us about it. It's gotta be awesome guys I. Mean Speaking of Commitment, right how do we commit? Really, succeeding in our careers, we want you guys be able to go to work and not worry that you're GonNa make a mistake in. English not worry you're gonNA look silly give that presentation and actually have a template for to do it and we're GonNa get started on getting you to that level in the Free Live web class. Okay. So Michelle, where can they sign up and why should? They make sure they don't miss it because it's the last chance, right? Yeah. Well, it is a last chance. Go to all ears English dot com slash real. You don't want to miss this one. This is a super fun interesting topic that will help you a lot and guys make sure also that you are on time s I don't Miss It. Don't get you out of the web webcast beyond. Early even. Yes the less chance we had it on. Friday we have it on Tuesday and it's the last time. It's going away after this and you'll miss it forever. No okay. No. Yeah. Guys you don't WanNa miss this one I'm excited about it. So all right. So the word commitment Oleg has a question. Lindsey could you read this question for us Ok highlands and Michelle Jessica an Aubrey how're you doing I'm oleg from Kiev Ukraine as I really enjoy listening to the podcast I wonder I can't completely seem to get the meaning of the word commitment, which is quite confusing to me because it has many definitions though often used specifically in the news it would be fantastic to hear how native speakers casually US commitment in one of your following episodes, all the Best Oleg Nice question good question. Yeah, definitely. Yeah. I. Mean it is true. A commitment. I didn't really think of this until Oleg asked this question, but it is. A word that news is used in many different ways. I'm not necessarily sure with like with the news exactly but we're going to go into it more today and give you a few definitions inspired by the dictionary homes. and. Then we're going to talk about one of them more specifically and some fun you can have it. Yeah. Love it when our Yeah Michelle I love one our listeners right in with a great question that we never would have thought of because we take it for granted as native speakers or something but thank you for this good question and guys make sure you send in your questions for the fall send them to windy all ears English DOT COM and we'll make try. We'll try to make an episode based on your question if it's a good question definitely definitely. Yes. Make it a good one. Thing. So all right. So let's talk about this word commitment. So on one definition is basically something that you have to do. Like you actually may be on able to do other things because you have to do this thing. So like and our first role play I said, do you have any commitments? It's something you have to do. So you couldn't like maybe talk with me if I needed to. Yeah. So that could mean having to do it can be defined kind of broadly right? It could be an appointment it could be responsibility you have to pick up your kid from daycare or could also be just like a dinner date or something right Michelle? Ley Right Right. Exactly. It could be whatever it is. I mean I feel like this it's used a lot with scheduling scheduling things like how I said in the beginning so. You might say something like Oh sorry. I can't come because I have a commitment with my team at work that day. Or Scheduling appointments is always tough when you have so many commitments. Yeah, I. Yeah I. It's interesting how I think sometimes maybe we're going to cover this in a second but. This work can be used to kind of mask just kind of keep private a sense of privacy, right? Vague. Little. Yeah I've noticed native speakers do that sometimes I, have a commitment later. Instead of saying, Oh, I have to do this and go do this It's a good way to make sure that the details stay private but to be clear and direct. Right. Right. Right and it might not be that it has to be private because you're trying to hide you're doing it. Yeah. Like it it may just be because you either like if I say, Oh, I have a work commitment later maybe I'm saying that because why would I tell you like details Oh i, love that Michelle it's kind of being more concise therefore more respectful of the person you're talking right? It's like, Oh, I have a seminar later on how to yeah you know like you you can just Say, work commitment and that kind of covers everything or if you're if you maybe you don't feel like talking about it, maybe could say what it is but you're just in a bad mood or whatever. You know it's just a it's a good word to use. Yeah. That's a great point. Maybe someday, we could do another episode on how to shorten things to be respectful concise and sound kind of smart in a sense I, think that could be a cool and this would be one of them. I have a committee. Sounds. Very it sounds good. It sounds great yeah. Definitely. I love it. So I mean also commitment it's a promise. It's a promise to do something. And all of these kind of fall under the same basic definition of like something you have to do right like yeah. So this one is a promise so. If it's not the exact same. Yeah. Like I said, these are inspired from the dictionary inspired by the dictionary. So they're pretty exact. Onward. So let me give an example. So you know I'm talking about so. I made a commitment to be there for my niece every day after school. So that's kind of an ongoing promise, right? Right. Right. Right. Right. Exactly. So it's a promise. Like a little less about an appointment time and exact time it's more of an ongoing every day for your life because you want to be post your knees. Yeah Right. Right. Right. Exactly I love that. So and this is also about loyalty. So could be used to talk about you know a couple or about being loyal to something particular. So their commitment to each other is really beautiful. Yeah I, love that Super Common. When you're talking about marriage love relationships and you know that kind of thing I love. So what's another example of that? Well or when it's a cause that you believe in rice on my commitment to the cause of animal rights will never change. You know all of us have certain things probably that we believe in deeply we're committed to it I mean for me even though my meditation practice waivers I have to admit. I'm pretty committed to that path throughout life and I do have to make sure that that like my actions up with my commitment but that's another example like I'm committed to meditation for my lifetime because I believe I believe, it's very effective and important Good. That's really good. Yeah I. Mean I think overall this idea of commitments it's just something. That you are set for your promising you're devoted to something so. Talk about this in terms of relationships because that is the first thing I mean when I hear the word commitment, I do think of something you have to do but I also think of just like relationships. So we're going to go into that a little bit in a second. But before we do that, we wanna really really really think the people who have reviewed our podcast right Lindsay, we want to be committed to our listeners here. Good one. Good one. I WanNa say thank you to those who reviewed us for the PODCAST. Make sure you guys go and subscribe by the way but let me say thank you to Zara for Raji from the Netherlands e Hub Sea from Canada someone from the US can't read that frank just from the mainland China Lonzo Ninety. Five from Saudi Arabia Michelle. There are so many. Wow. Gosh Danny One. Oh, two from the Netherlands. Bloom Seda from Turkey how to from India Asthma Zairy from Iran while Ali Rei Avi from the US id one, nine, three from Cambodia. Cool. We have a listener in Cambodia I love that Fasano Mary from Kuwait guys. These are fantastic reviews guys. The best way you can help us first of all is making sure you are subscribed. So you don't miss an episode and then go and leave us a rating and review. Yes. Okay. Thank you so much while to hear that like an here the person's name and where they're from and people from all over the world it just it's like, oh my Gosh I can't believe that. I need to send you these reviews. I haven't send them to you know wildly shocks. That when we hang up because it keeps US motivated, we read these guys don't make any mistake about it. We read them every week and it keeps US motivated to keep creating awesome content for you guys saw them to you. Michelle when we get off the because if it weren't for you guys Lindsey and I would just be having these. I liked talking the obviously I've been talking to her for almost six years. But. It would just be a little bit strange if you're having this and no one was listening. So. Yeah. Yeah. If you missed our live business, English web class on Friday. Then you have one more chance on Tuesday sign up. Now at all ears English dot com board slash real where Lyndon Jessica will show you how to be formal and informal and semi formal in Business English go to all ears English dot com forward slash R. E., a. l., and we can't wait to see you at the web class. What next Michelle, how should we talk about here? Yes, we're talking about commitment in terms of relationship. So this is interesting. So have you ever heard if somebody being described as a commit MMA phob commitment phobes or commitment is that how come? Okay. Okay. So I thought it was I thought it was a commitment phobes. It could be your but I. But if you see on the sheet, it's underlined as a spelling mistake I looked when I looked up I saw that it's commit afo. Oh my gosh. So there could be a variety of ways to spell this. It's obviously not like an official dictionary words kind of more of a slang fund. Yeah. Like Lenses said commitment phobes you could just say commitment I was commitment phobes. Yeah. So so what is that and I mean because that's kind of a frequently like you said kind of slang that's used. So. What does that in be so anytime you put phobic after something something you're afraid of like Arachnophobia, where have you seen the movie Arachnophobia? Movie that I would say. It was great I remember seeing it when I was like ten and I was permanently scarred. Oh, terrified of Tarantulas. I'm terrified of them and I've never seen that they're they're scary. So. So you know in general applies to so many more words any time you have the word and then phobes something you're afraid of. Okay. So commitment foup someone who just is afraid of committing to anything usually this is used when you're talking about relationships. Yeah. Someone won't commit to taking the next level moving in together getting engaged, getting married those sorts of things right? Michelle. So yeah. Yeah. Oh Yeah. Definitely I mean do you have any friends anybody? You know who's a commitment phobes? Dirk couple of people I have a theory about that they are, but we'll see we'll see. Some people I mean some people have this. Fear of attachment or you could say fear of commitment and relationships it makes me think of guys I'm sure if of course I'm going to relate it to friends, but it makes me think candler on friends in the first few seasons. All was he a commitment phobes. Yeah. Yeah. He was always like so scared of getting involved with someone to seriously and there are some people who are like this I mean why do you? Why do you think people sometimes have this phobia I? Think it goes back. To stuff. We learned from our parents. I think it goes deep. I think he goes deep beyond fortunately there's never something you couldn't work on in therapy right but we do I think if people have that issue, they definitely have to address it actively like in therapy or through some kind of help I don't know. Yeah. Yeah. It's it's interesting because for me I'm terrible decision maker leg the worst of the worst of the worst and I always felt like, oh well, that's how I'm going to be. Forever like so it's shock that I I mean you're talking about your relationship? Yeah. Well, no no, no no I'm saying in general. Decision maker. So like I would have thought that I would have not been able to to find someone and commitment you know like be like so sure about them I'm like, okay that's it. You know I would have done that it'd be more like I don't know what my Gosh but I dunno or maybe I mean maybe that's how you know you've met the right person. Yeah. So but yeah but definitely like you can yeah yeah sometimes, the fear of commitment is be if like if you're with them on and you are too scared. To be committed to them sometimes, it's just because you something inside us. Yeah, right? Yes. I that's the other piece of it. I completely agree with you your body's telling you something's wrong. Something's just wrong but you maybe you just don't have it in your consciousness, right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Definitely. So people can have clear commitment also for jobs they can have veer commitment for moving to like some people. They don't want to settle down in one place I'm on a little bit like like I wish I could live all over the world so. Committing to one place as a little terrifying. By. Yeah. I mean this just like it it doesn't have to be about relationships. So this fear of commitment Yom I think is something that a lot of people have in different areas of life for sure. Yeah. Most of us have it in some in some areas in somewhere part of of life So we have a quick role play here Michelle. Do it so. We are two friends. We're making plans and channing. Okay. Yes. So Hey, are you free on Sunday free on Sunday? No I have a work commitment. Can I do Monday? I can do Monday. Oh I can do my. Oh I sorry I can do Monday. Sure. My sister just texted me upset because her boyfriend is turning out to be a commitment job. He has a real fear of attachment and I don't think she's accepted that yet. I'm sorry to hear that Oh, my gosh. Yeah. So common common conversation I feel like especially between women probably not between men is much. have. Sometimes Stereo time took. A stereotype? Talk about this but I just feel like kind of in pop culture a much more common conversation that you'd hear talk concert. Yeah. Pop Culture like I said on friends with Lauren I mean I think yeah I. Okay. So what did we do here? So I said no I have a work commitment, and again, that was good because you didn't say, I, have a meeting with my boss and we're talking about this. See what I mean. It could be too lengthy and annoying to who you're talking, right? Yes yes. Yes. Exactly and then you said that your sister's upset because her boyfriend is a commitment phobes or committed faubourg commitment phobes whatever. And you said this this bonus phrase he has a real fear of attachment or you could say fear of commitment. Yeah and if you guys want to nerd out on that topic, there's a whole book I think on attachment styles you know yeah, it's very popular. A lot of people are talking about it now. I'll try to find the link to it and leave it in the blog post, but really interesting stuff really good in relationship specifically. Yeah. It's just an. Awesome while yeah. So I mean, overall. This word is used in a lot of us a lot in many different contexts. So it has the same general meaning that we discussed this responsibility this loyalty. So you can kind of think of it as that, and then see where it is in the context of what you're discussing but there's so much other thing so much. So. Much more. We could do on this topic We can talk about other word forms, other idioms. So you can look out for a follow up on the word commitment definitely definitely and guys. The thing you have to do now is go and sign up for the web class because it's happening tomorrow. Okay. So make sure you get your last chance at that Free Live Web class go to yours English dot com slash real and thank you to Oleg for the question. Perfect. Okay. This has been a fun one and enjoy. You, know make a commitment to go to the web class. Are Visual Talk DC. By By. Thanks for listening to all ears. 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AEE 1520: What Has Shaped You? How To Describe Formative People and Events In English

All Ears English Podcast | Real English Vocabulary | Conversation | American Culture

20:56 min | 8 months ago

AEE 1520: What Has Shaped You? How To Describe Formative People and Events In English

"This is an all ears english. Podcast episode fifteen twenty. What has shaped you had to describe. Formative people and events in english. Welcome to the all ears. English podcast downloaded more than two hundred million times. Are you feeling stock with your english. We'll show you how to become fearless and fluent by focusing on connection. Not perfection with your american hosts lindsay mcmahon the english adventure and michelle kaplan the new yorker radio girl coming to you from colorado and new york city u s. a who. Or what has made you what you are today. In this episode we give you a key conversation skill in english talk about your own life and therefore help others open up about who they are in english. Hey michelle how's everything going today. Hey lindsay. i'm good i'm good. Are you a fan of the star. Wars movies oh my gosh. I know. I watched them as a kid but i didn't follow them as a fan throughout life princess. Laya and you know there are. I don't know the other names. But i sort of know the icon's right but not really what about you. Michelle down is so. Sometimes i'll have to watch something with him. I mean i appreciate them for being like amazing and p they're so appreciative and beloved in our culture. So i appreciate them for that. But i don't know a lot about it. I've seen things here and there but i didn't grow up like a huge fan or anything being part of it is if you grew up with it. Then it's like a big deal to you but if it's not part of your childhood it's it might be harder to get into. I don't know yeah totally agree with you on that one michelle. There are a lot of people that are crazy about star wars even into being adults like forties fifties. Like they. just keep going with it. yeah for sure. It's not just for kids. Yeah yeah definitely. Oh yeah for sure. So we have a question today and it's involving a word that that's a character from star wars. I actually don't. I don't know if it's just if it started out as a word from star wars or maybe if it comes from somewhere else i don't know but we're gonna get into. It definitely makes me think of star wars. can you are the question for us lindsay. Okay this is a question from nelson from brazil so shout out to our listener nelson then so he says i really appreciate your show. It's fun and informative and even gives me a good bit of energy to take my mornings to the next level. I love that show. I'd really like to know why and how we can express the life experiences that we have had that have shaped our personality and our view of life. Do you guys consider yourself a veteran or a yoga or in something. Let me know really appreciate you. Guys hugs from brazil from rio. Okay awesome. I wanna eat someday by me too. Oh my gosh me too. That's on my that's high on my list. Owner that to your life experience. I would love to got to got traveling again. All right awesome. So we're going to get into this. And i love it on. So is a character in star wars movie. Green guy You'll see like these baby. Yoda things. And i don't know but that's not what we're going to be talking about completely so we're going to talk about that. Is that for a second. And then we're going to get into the other part of the question which i really really love. I'm excited for this episode. But before we do that if you want to really find out about a level in english we got you covered right lindsey. Now we got you covered exactly so guys. You can take a simple two minute. English quiz and the way to do that is to come over to all ears. English dot com which is our website to our homepage and click the blue button. That says free english quiz. It's right next door photo. There's a photo of me and michelle right there and then you look to the left and you see a button that says free english quiz. I want to encourage you come over and do that right. Michelle what a cool way to find out your level absolutely. I love it too. Yes really cool really quick. Really fun so awesome. So let's get into the questions. So yeah he mentions iota right. So yoda's and star wars. Have you ever heard people say to be a yoda in something. I guess so yeah. I'm not super familiar with this way. This analogy this idea. Who was yoda in star wars like. Well don't ask me. But i don't know i think i think one of the things with iota is that he's like really wise or old or i don't know but i've i have heard it. I've heard it before. A little bit used to talk about somebody who may be like an expert. When i first read that and this i mean maybe i'm totally wrong but that's how i hear it like. Yeah somebody who knows a lot about something. Yum so yeah. That's how that lake. So i might hear somebody say something like. Oh i'm a total iota when it comes to knitting or something like that so yeah. I'm not quite sure how to use it in this way. But that's that's how i heard it. That's how i heard it. Yeah that makes sense. And it makes sense with the students question to with nelson's question right so he said. Do you guys consider yourself a iota in something. A veteran a veteran or a yoda in something so that makes sense. So this idea of an expert kind of a guru type of thing right Right right right right right. I mean yeah. When he's a veteran what what does that mean. I mean obviously that somebody who's been maybe a war or something like that in the military. But what else i mean. It's not just about downing amused. And other ways. Yeah i mean often we see this. In any area of life where we have newbies or rookies and then you have like veterans that trends in this area could be any skill any hobby any club or group. there's always veterans and there's rookies or newbies yet. Funny because. Do you hear that. We pronounce this word differently. Which one that. I say veteran. And you say veteran veteran yeah guys there are some words we can pronounce differently and both are correct. Exactly right so it's just sometimes it's funny. I know we always love talking about that stuff. Like how we speak a little bit differently and when you find a word whereas links different that's funny connection point. Actually yeah for sure guys. We've done other episodes on that so come back to our blog and look pronunciation go explore our other episodes before. Yeah exactly so you might say something like know. Oh he's a veteran of this place. He'll show you the ropes right so like the opposite like you said the opposite of newbie. Yeah as show you the ropes. By the way i love that medium. What is that what exactly. I guess our listeners can understand what that means by listening to it right. Yeah it's basically we'll show you how things are done the procedure things we do right. That's show you the rub. So that's definitely a good one guys. Yeah isn't just about being an expert. Michelle or is it about something else. Oh well it's also. I mean when i think of a yoda i think about you know experience living life really living through something specific right so i mean expert could be. I mean experts veteran could be with that as well right So it can be used in many different ways. But this me thinking about like lindsey. What's the difference between smart and wise. All's huge- hugely different. I mean actually. We talk about this a lot. When i studied buddhism studying meditation and buddhism and they talk a lot about this in here because our culture has this ridiculous Like almost worshiping of intelligence but not wisdom. And i think that's a huge mistake so the difference is you could be very smart and very intelligent. You can have iq of two hundred thousand but you could also not be very wise like not making smart life decisions ray. Wisdom comes from mostly from experience about life and then intelligence is just iq just book either book smart or street smarts but you could also be unwise and intelligent. Yeah yeah yeah definitely definitely yeah go explanations so yeah i mean we've done other episodes on talking about being an expert so one of them is eleven eighty six. Are you an english connoisseur. Find out today. Listen to eleven six. I'm lindsay what's the other one. So i love this one guys. It's twelve ninety one how to be the queen of banter her in english. So you want to. You know if you're in our app or are soon to come or android app guys. You can find that in the search bar very easily by typing in twelve ninety. One us So yeah lindsey. Are you a yoga or a veteran. Anything i would never call myself a iota of either. But i mean i guess in the sense that we have been online for a long time now since two thousand thirteen and there's so many new online english english should teachers coming up. I think we're veterans in that area. Maybe moving into that that range i suppose. What do you think michelle. I i would like to think so. Yeah but like so. Yeah for all ears english for sure maybe in the online space. Online education probably. Yeah yeah so Yeah awesome love it. So yeah guys. Today we are going to also talk about these phrases to express what our listener was asking. He mentioned the life experiences that shaped our personality and our view of life right so he's and why. And how can we express right. So why why should we express it. How something shape us. I mean i think it helps. People connect right to be vulnerable to share. Why you got to the place where you are right. Oh yeah for our listeners. Guys this is a connection skill. Are you need to be able to tell the person where you're coming from. Not just your stance on something but how you learned that like why you know that now. Okay people won't put as much weight on it exactly. So yes so now. Let's talk about how to do it right to to talk about these experiences. So are the first one is x. Made me who. I am or is a huge part of who i am right so i say that means the experience so for the person or something so i could say oh. My mom made me who. I am or my time abroad. Made me who i am so something made me who i am right or is a huge part of who i am. I love that man and you know this is interesting. Michelle because i feel like this might be quite cultural wanting to share this in cultures. That are maybe less about me. Ride the individual in the us. We're all about me right. All we are people we think per so solid solidly independent but other cultures may not want to emphasize this quite as much. But know who. You're talking with your talking with a native speaker. In english speaker from the west they might be interested in knowing this more. And it's not bad to share these parts of yourself right right right exactly exactly. Yeah i mean lindsay. What made you who you are. Oh my gosh. It's so hard to pin down this right because there are so many experience yeah family being like a strong healthy family and my parents supporting me. My tennis probably made me a huge part of who i am in terms of my work ethic because when i a kid between the ages of twelve and eighteen. I played a ton of tennis even college. We would go to tournaments. Around new england. And i would have to practice every day for hours. I worked really really hard at my tennis. So that showed me how to have a work ethic. I guess you michelle. What made you who you are. Yeah i mean. I would also say my family for sure And i guess my examples. I mean like my time abroad. Traveling has made me who i am. Also i suppose my experience with performing and things like that like Just getting in front of people doing music and you know. There are also very much shaped who i am. I think yeah awesome. I love it has all michelle their bunch of ways to say those. I'm not sure if we'll build teach all of them. We have quite a few here. We do yeah. What if we teach like one or two more what you think all right. Well one of them. I already used. I just said it. And i realized that saying x shaped to me so like my experience volunteering abroad really shaped me right yeah. That's a good one michelle. That's very common very common. So you know my experience. Traveling through south america with a backpack shaped me. Okay yeah that's simple and again using the word to shape for michelle. Exactly exactly guys want to know your level in english. Take your english fluency quiz answers seven questions that we've created and get your english fluency score. Just come back to our site and find the button called free english quiz. Come back to all ears. English dot com look on the homepage where it says free english quiz. Click on that button and take your quiz now. See you there okay. let's do a couple more. Let's say how about this. I am where i am today because yeah also very common so an example guys amway today because i worked hard and looked at every challenge as an opportunity rates guys. Write these down. I mean these three. I feel like just these three. Michelle are perfect. We don't wanna give to make a kind of a complex topic right. It's kind of long winded in a sense So i am where. I am today because i worked hard and looked at every challenge as an opportunity. What would you say there for yourself. Michelle i am. We're ambit today because me another example i am where i am today because because of a of random events. Yeah that's the other part. We've talked about that that a lot. I mean i mean that's what i would really say. I am where i am today. Because of a lot. Because the stars aligned in many many ways. I know i mean meeting your partner right. Meaning your husband like. I don't know maybe you went to a party that you i for my mom and my parents. My mom was sick. She didn't want to go back in one thousand nine hundred. Seventy eight or seventy seven in boston. Her roommate dragged her out. She was sick. She didn't want to go but she met my dad there and you know it was just a random decision to go out that night. Yeah so there's randomness in the universe to he. Oh yeah exactly so when you talk about these experiences right you kind of have to think is it like the is it a decision. You made the decision that was kind of made for you by the world and it's kind of interesting to grapple what those two ideas like. How much are we in control. I love that. How much are we in control. I love that do have a quick role. Play here michelle we do. We might be using some of the ones we didn't cover but let's just do it and then we'll just quickly explain yeah. I think it'll be good so we're going to use a few here so here. We are reminiscing after running into each other. After ten years of not seeing each other. Okay cool so have you been. Oh good oh. I have to tell you lindsay. I wouldn't be at my current job if you hadn't encouraged me all those years ago to pursue my dreams. Wow i'm so happy to hear that. It was really our teacher mr smith who made me who i am. He was the one who told me to encourage you. Well i can tell you. His class was certainly a life. Altering experience i agree. That clause definitely shaped me very cool. Okay so you guys. You're going to hear a few that we didn't necessarily go through getting let's go through them. Now michelle exactly. So the first one yes. So i said i wouldn't be at my current job. If you had an encouraged me as years ago blah blah blah right so yeah. It's saying that you're responsible for this guys. We're using the past perfect here right so interesting. Getting into different grammar foreign. Oh yeah. i'm sure that we've done an episode on the past perfect format and talking about regret sir if something had been different so come back to our blog dot com and go to the grammar section to learn about that. Okay the next one i said. Wow i'm so happy to hear that. It was really our teacher mr smith who made me who i am. Yeah okay so something made you who you are right right right and then this one. This is a good. We'll we'll call this a bonus for today. I said his class was a life altering experience. This is way to say like experience that changed your life life ring. So that's a good bonus for today yet does a good one and don't use it lightly guys. This is a really is reserved for seriously life altering experiences. Maybe two or three in your entire life a person you mad decision you made okay a job you took or whatever it is okay and the last one. I agree that class definitely shaped me and we did show our listeners. That one right. Michelle jess we did. We did we did. Yeah so i mean these are all really really useful to talk about these life experiences to connect with people right lindsay. Yeah i think so. I think so michelle i mean. Do you have anyone specific in your life. Who shaped you. Anyone specific you said your family but is there any one specific person who shaved you. I would say. I mean i. I mean it's hard to choose my mom or my dad. Also i if i can say my parents i mean they certainly like i. It's funny to now. Like i in now even things recently. There are things where i can point till like. Oh like i'm like this because my mom like this because when my dad and values instilled in me values of honesty and hard work and even you know some of the things that aren't always so good being anxious and things like they're good with the bad right maneka sometimes. If there's like a negative trait my mom will be like. Oh you got that from me you know. So what can you do. I mean lindsay. What about you you start to see your parents flaws as you get older for sure. Yeah i would say my dad shaped me and wanting to be an entrepreneur. I've shared his show before for sure but my dad Really like he built his business throughout my entire life. I watched him do it. I watched them take massive risk And to enjoy reap the benefits of that risk. And you know. I i for some reason. I just got really entice with the idea of doing something. That's very hard having massive challenge in your life and you just go for it anyways. You put everything on the line. I don't know why he really shaped me in that way. I would awesome all that so sweet while you should play this for your dad. Because i'm sure he'd like cry if he heard this probably a reflection going on our what's the takeaway for all right so i do have a takeaway is so it's so important to be able to talk about yourself and your journey in order to connect with other does not just about sharing. Because you're sharing yourself right. Maybe your sharing something to make somebody feel better about where they are or maybe you're trying to encourage them if they're feeling discouraged right so there's a lot of reasons that you would be talking about your experiences. And how they shaped you so think about how this applies to you and your conversations but this was a great conversation. I mean a great question and it really allows us to think about ourselves learn about ourselves and continue to grow. That's a good point. Michelle think about the art of conversation guys in the art of connection. I know that's what you want right. That's why you listened to english that sometimes it's more of a pivot point or an example. You wanna share before getting the other person to share something important about themselves. It's not always is not like you can only use these if you wanna be the center of the conversation right. It's not all about you times. It's about sharing something about you to get someone else to open up about themselves. I love it okay and this is so much fun lindsay. Yea but before we go. We want our mind you to get your english quiz. Your free english quiz go to english dot com and then you will see free english clip quiz. Click on that and it'll take you there exactly guys. We will see what that simple quiz. It takes about a just a few minutes about two minutes seven questions. And then you get your english fluency score so cool so cool okay michelle. This has been great and talk to you very soon. All right by lindsay by thanks for listening to all ears english. Would you like to know your english level. Take our two minute quiz go to. Here's english dot com forward slash fluency score and if you believe in connection not perfection been. Hit subscribe now to make sure you don't miss anything see you next time.

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AEE 1563: Fast English Listening Skills: How to Understand the Why

All Ears English Podcast | Real English Vocabulary | Conversation | American Culture

19:42 min | 5 months ago

AEE 1563: Fast English Listening Skills: How to Understand the Why

"This is an all ears english. Podcast episode one thousand five hundred. Sixty three how to understand. Not just what. But why in fasting. English conversations welcome to the all ears. English podcast downloaded more than two hundred million times. Are you feeling stock with your english. We'll show you how to become fearless and fluent by focusing on connection not perfection with your american hosts lindsay mcmahon the english adventurer and michelle kaplan the new york radio girl coming to you from colorado and new york city u. s a. n. To get real time transcripts right on your phone and create your personalized vocabulary. Lists try our iowa's app start your seven day free trial at all ears english dot com forward slash bonuses. When someone sharing their opinion they will often tell a story. Why did they do this. And how can this help you understand opinions and fast group. Conversations learn our strategy today. Hello lindsey how are you. hey michelle. i'm feeling good. I'm feeling good. What's going on in your world. Everything is good over here. Yeah i mean not too much to report really on how are you. Oh not too much. I'm ready for spring. I'm ready for you. Know being outside more in the sunshine but yet things are good. Things are good no complaints. Good good good lindsay. When you are sharing your opinion do you think it's an effective strategy to also share a story. Oh totally yeah. I like to do that because it kind of backs. Up my opinion a little bit you know and it also adds color to the conversation. I mean yeah. Yeah yeah absolutely and kind of make things more personal right so if you just kinda say your opinion i mean. That's that's great and that can happen. Sometimes but you know i think to really kind of make it more more intense and more clear. I think a really effective thing to do is to share a story to kind of show. Why you think the way you do. Why feel the way you do totally agree. Yeah i mean today. We're talking about this. You know not just when it comes to to people right. It's more than two people conversations with three four five people that's when it becomes even more important to share that story so people know who you are and where that opinion comes from right michelle absolutely absolutely. This is definitely useful for yeah. It's great for two people but when you are having like one of those really in depth conversations with a group of people about a particular subject if you kinda just say yeah. I think this right like yeah. You're not going to stand out. You're not gonna further yourself in that conversation so this is especially useful for when you were talking with multiple people guys. Yes and guys. We know that. That is a big challenge. I mean that's why we created our program for fast english listening. But i do want to let our listeners. Know michelle about a live web class. That is coming. It's going to be so cool. Yes happening all right so there is a web class and it is called three things to do that. You don't write love that title. I want i love that idol. So it's how to stop sounding like a student. yeah. I mean that. That's i mean. I think you guys are gonna love it because this is you know. We don't want us like students right. You wanna sound like the real deal all right the native speaker so this is what this is going to help you do right. Lindsay one hundred percents. So jessica. And i are going to be hosting this. Live web class for you guys on may eighth and may tenth. Okay so go and sign up right. Now go to all english dot com forward slash native. That's an a. t. v. e. and get your name on the list. The list will fill up if you don't get on their show up on time and come and learn with us so exciting awesome. Oh my gosh. I'm excited to learn more about that. Oh my gosh. that's so yes so let's get into it so again. If you share your opinion along with a story. I mean this gives you evidence right. It gives evidence and it. Also i feel really helps you relate to others right maybe someone has a similar story or maybe someone has a completely different story to share. This is not only about having everyone having the same opinion right lindsay. Yeah because then when you give your example people can not just listen to what your opinion is but listen to your example and see if they had the same experience right and they can learn they can learn something about you. They can see things through your eyes right. Maybe they disagree but then they can say oh. Okay i get why like. I don't agree. But i understand why this person feels that way completely. I love it so too so it kind of in a sense it makes you relevant to other people right to stay relevant in a conversation. We have to back up our opinion with evidence with a story. Exactly exactly this is. I mean we might be used to playing things like. Oh yeah. I agree. Or i disagree i so too or no. I don't think so right but like this is so much more interesting to add that story to add that little piece of yourself or maybe it's a story about somebody else right but it's just adding that special something that makes this more unique than just. If you're reading someone else's story in a paper or if you just hear someone just quickly say yeah. I think so right. Yeah and the other piece that i like about encouraging our listeners guys to do this is that little rush of adrenaline. That you get when you even when you're talking with people that you're close with sometime. Maybe maybe we'll make their acquaintances. There's a little rush of adrenaline that you get before you share something like Share this should. I stay in and then you go and you do it and it's almost like you feel like you're taking up more space in the world after you've done that in a good way in a confident way. Yeah i love that. Yeah i definitely get that rush of adrenaline. Yeah right before a share something. Like i know exactly what you're talking about. Yes yes most people do. I mean you know so. This can build confidence. It can be a confidence builder. So we're going to talk today. Michelle about how to kind of do this. Is this what we're getting into. Yeah yeah i mean and guys this is not only. I mean you know here. We're going to be listening to an example but this is about listening right and you know gathering things from what people are saying but it's also really a lot about speaking today. I mean i think you know. Sometimes our students might hold back in conversations. I may be answered. Yes or no to something right. I mean lindsay. What do you think you agree with that definitely. We don't want you guys to hold back. I mean especially for our listeners. Michelle there at that. Upper intermediate low advanced level. They want to become fully fluent and native like in the way they speak. But by holding back you will not get their guys right. No no no exactly so we need to start really listening for why people feel the way they do so that we can also understand how to express ourselves right. Give ourselves ideas of how to do that so we are going to listen to a sample today to go over this. This is a clip from a fast group conversation. This is from our conversations and coffee program. Yup guys this is with multiple speakers and this deals with connecting personal stories to opinions something that lindsay says. We're gonna listen to lindsays opinion today on something on. This is going to be good and guys in this program. You're going to hear more about this program if you come to the live web class so join the live web class. Come on board with us there and you learn about this program but we talk about really interesting topics like you know it is program. You'd get the full episode. You get the full content but this is just a piece and the question of this conversation was should you ask. Someone's parents to get before you get engaged. It was the question that we were talking about talking about. Yeah if you yes and you wanna get engaged right should you. you know. Really incorporate the comparison to having them you know give give their blessing as they say or right right exactly. I think we all of had different opinions on it. But now we're going to play just a tiny piece of the full clips. You guys can see what we can implement the strategy today so guys when you're listening right so when you're in a conversation where opinions are being expressed you know you wanna listen closely for not only what the opinion is but why people feel the way they do. This is taking it to a next level of listening right. So when you're listening to this clip listen for this okay to simple things. This person feels x. Right so how does this person feel. It's lindsay lindsay. Feels what okay. And then the second question is why right. So don't get yourself like nervous about other things. Were just listening to those two things. We're about to play the clip here about lindsay's opinion. I think it's a nice job. I think it's important right. Because i do have a friend whose sister her husband did not ask her sister's dad and that created a sense of animosity right from the beginning get married and they're not a traditional family at all but it was a sign of disrespect to the father and that set them on not a great path. I mean they're okay but there's definitely a constant like Lack of respect between them. So i would definitely aramis just do just do it because you know it's set you up with your in laws and a good in a good way and that's the important thing in my mind okay. Michelle so love. How what we're doing here is we're simplifying the listening right right right right right because and it's really good when you listen when you're practicing with these kinds of things you know. It can be tempting to want to do everything i once. Just listen to everything. Go right and you kind of can get overwhelming so we are giving you these strategies where you can break it down and say okay. This is when. I'm listening for this. This is what. I'm listening for that. And you know the goal is then you start to kind of overlap things together so this is what we're listening for today that we're working on okay. So where do we start or listeners. Just heard me say my opinion on this on whether you should consult the parents before you ask for someone's hand in marriage and then i expounded on that right. I expanded my opinion. So where do we start. If we're trying to understand this conversation okay. Well so let's kind of understand you know the order that you did things in an it doesn't have to be in this order but you did. I mean your quick opinion right so you said you know. I think it's nice. It's important right and then you gave the explanation so you went fully into it giving a detailed story right and then you kinda ended up. I mean you tied it up like a nice little present and explain all right. Explain okay so this is why i feel the way they do that i do and i mean this is a very common way to express your opinion guys so this is good for speaking as well. So again. I you said. I think it's nice. You so of course. Like using words. Like i think right in phnom and right right right right right right exactly and then what did you do. You share the story right lindsay. Yeah i gave the exact example right so first of all. I said i think it's nice. I think it's important right. I'm doing and we can do another episode on that right piece. I in my story is because i do have a friend who sister blah blah blah. I told the exact story in what happened. Right Exactly you went into the story and we can talk about this. Another time. Friends sister's husband that that can gosh great episode topic. Actually yeah yeah so that can get a little bit confusing but yet friends sisters husband so guys listen to that and also i mean. Does it matter to the listener. Your friend sister's husband does it matter that they completely hang onto who that person is not really is just someone that i know anything that happened. It doesn't matter to you guys and that's a good point michelle when we are just improving our listening skills with fast group conversations. We do have to throw out what doesn't matter throw out what is relevant to your understanding and that's one of the things right it was relevant to you to express it because you're telling the story so it's easy you like if you said to me like oh my friend sister. Her husband like in my in my head. I'm like i'm just kind of like okay. I don't like i mean this is not meant to be offensive. But i'm just kind of like okay person x. like it doesn't matter like it could be like the the mailman driving past my apartment doesn't matter that makes total sense. I love it. That's great that's a great concept for today to just throw out what doesn't matter what away. Oh what do. I don't get stressed out. You don't wanna miss our free live. Web class spots are limited. And you get to interact with lindy jessica live. Discover slang and idioms. That textbooks will never teach you but natives use them all the time. Sign up now and mark your calendar. We'll see you on may eighth or may tenth go to all ears english dot com forward slash native to grab your spot. Now see there and then you know then you you know you stated what happened in the story and you gave your overall a conclusion which was trouble with the inlaws which is not good. Good yeah and then you rounded it out right. So what did you do in the end. The third year. I gave my full opinion. This is the wrapping it up in a nice little bow that native speakers do and should do especially if they're kinda debating and arguing their perspective right so i said so i would definitely you know. Ask for permission because bla-bla-bla right and that's the important thing on my mind. Oh that's interesting. Why did i add that piece. The that's important thing in my mind because you kind of brought it back to yourself. You know i mean. I think it's personal. Then you kind of bring it to the story and then you bring it back to yourself and you say in my mind i mean i like that expression we'd say oh in my mind right a lot of time. I will say things like that. Yes and you hear people. I think in in the uk or australia saying to my mind it's interesting. We can talk another day about that but lonzo episode ideas today michelle. Yes definitely definitely so guys. Yeah that was kinda the order now. You could switch it around if you want to. But this really like i mean to me. This makes real a really clear sense like where we're going with this so when you're listening or you speaking that's something that you might wanna try out. So you know lindsey used words like so because i think in my mind you know so you wanna keep those kinds of words in your head when you're expressing your opinion as well. Yeah i love that. That is so important to understand like listen for more information on why they think what they think right exactly. Oh that is totally the key. I mean and let's get back to the strategy but we asked you at the beginning. We asked you to think of two things right And this was to you. Know what you need to understand. Overall right the main point so this person lindsay feels axe. Right so lindy feels. It's good to ask permission. And then the second thing goes why so lindsay. What was the why because my friend had a negative experience that had long term repercussions not just in that moment but really for a lifetime. I guess if you think about it so big mistake and that's that clearly impacts my opinion on that definitely definitely so that really shaped us so that was i mean if you would just said. Oh yeah no i. I mean i don't know maybe maybe some of us did and that conversation. I don't know it doesn't mean that you have to have a personal story every time right like right you might not have a personal story. But you know it's more than necessarily a story. It's just adding more to it. Rather than just saying yeah. I think this. I think that right always think about what can you add. Why of course and of course you don't want to be the person that person that goes on and on and on with their stories there is that person in every refrained group right. Yeah i thought. I thought yours was a perfect length like you went into. It was short and sweet and they can explain a lot of you feel the way you feel so i mean guys. This is also good for speaking practice so for speaking practice. Consider telling a story where you share your opinion and use background story to shape that opinion right and you can take that format that lindsay used. Yeah and i think we'll go another day another week next week or something. We'll go into another episode and breakdown that formula for you a bit more. Maybe michelle go more dab get more examples because it's it. Is you know two different things that we're working on here but this is great. I mean this is all about native conversation hanging in on that conversation right right right exactly exactly and like we said guys. This is especially useful for listening practice and speaking practice when we're talking about multiple people in a conversation right because you have to and that it's kind of a little bit of a different dynamic whereas if you have multiple people in the conversation you really do want to fully go into what you think to to stand out so that you're not just kind of sitting on the sidelines of that conversation exactly and go with that adrenaline rush that we talked about beginning usually that adrenaline rush is nature's way of telling us that. Yes we're doing something. We're a little scared of but it's good. It's a good thing that's how we grow as people and speakers of a new language. So guys we want to encourage you to come to this live web class because these are the things that we're gonna be talking about the three things that natives do that you don't if you're wondering what they are. You gotta come to the web clause. It's not recorded so don't miss it. It's may eighth and tenth and michelle. Where's the link that they can go to register. Go to all ears. English dot com slash native awesome. And what should we leave our listeners. With today i mean what should we remember when it comes to group conversations. If you guys it's not not usually enough just to say you disagree or agree with something you have to kind of think of filling the space right like when you're giving your opinion you wanna fill a space where it's not just like what you think but why right so. It's important to practice listening for why people feel the way they do. But it's also important to understand how to structure your response. Which is something we went over today and share more information so definitely. Don't give us a try and your next conversation and to get more practice with this with this listening. Get over to our conversations and coffee program Yeah exactly and and you guys can. We are going to talk about that on the web class. So just sign up for the web class right. Michelle signed up for the web clause and we will talk about that for sure awesome. Yeah i mean guys become someone that has an opinion and has a story to back it up. That shows that you have an interesting life and that people can connect with you. That is the key right there. Awesome michelle are those fine lindsey. I hope you have a good day. Good style we'll talk to you soon. Bye thanks for listening to all ears english. Would you like to know your english level. Take our two minute quiz. go to all ears. English dot com forward slash fluency score. And if you believe in connection not perfection then hit subscribe now to make sure you don't miss anything see you next time.

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AEE 1324: How to Connect in English by Admitting That Youre Scatterbrained

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AEE 1324: How to Connect in English by Admitting That Youre Scatterbrained

"This is an English podcast so thirteen twenty four how to connect an English by admitting that your scatter brained welcome to the all ears. English podcast downloaded more than one hundred and thirty million times. We believe in connection not perfection with your American host. Lindsay McMahon the English adventurer and Michelle. Caplin the New York radio girl coming to you from Los Angeles and New York City U S A and to take your learning deeper with real-time transcripts and vocabulary practice download our APP on your device. Go to all ears. English DOT COM bonuses. You're talking with someone in English and your thoughts are disorganized. What are some key things you can say to take the pressure off and build connection with the person you're talking to find out today? Hey Lindsey how's it goin' Awesome Michelle feeling good feeling? Good how are you? I'm good? I'm good do you have a lot on your mind? Lindsey Oh all the time. Yeah there's constantly like a thousand things on my mind and more comes out when I exercise but it's good work out all the things kind of plug in together and I think of all these great ideas when I'm working out. It's great I mean. Is it easy for you? Are you like the kind of person you can have lot going on in your mind and you can think about all of it and straighten it out or do you find that's overwhelming. I think I've gotten better as the years have gone on at doing that. It that it is okay. That's always how it's going to be you know especially at work with English. We've got a bunch of things we're trying to do and it's all happening at the same time but that has to be okay right. I mean there's no other way to do it. That's just life right right definitely. Oh my gosh so you what about me? I am starting to think I've talked about this on the show more and more like now I start to. I've been starting to write down things a little bit more because I really do find that helps me because if I know that I if I haven't all in my mind then I think about it too much but once it's written down like even if it's just like to do lists and things like that. I think I've talked about this like it does help me to just write it down so I am not a person who likes to think of a million things at once. I learned that I work best if I get it out and just like put it down and I know it's written. I can go back to that whatever. Yeah that makes. I need that to like. I'd like to finish off the week by writing up goals for the next week. Like what am I gonNa do when I get back to work on Monday? Me Too and that just helps clear the mind you know. Oh my gosh. It's so helpful and I never realized I always heard that it was a helpful thing to do and I'll yeah. Yeah but it really is helpful. It really is like even if I think of something and I'm trying to fall asleep and I'm like Oh wait I have to. You know sometimes I actually like just on my phone send myself a little email or something like that and then I can be like okay. I'm not going to think about this anymore. Yeah I do that constantly myself email. Sometimes I am going to accidentally address to someone else A. Little no like wash dishes. You're GonNa get something from you buy toilet paper like I'll be like really why things are concerned. Oh my gosh. But so Lindsey. We have a question about kind of this idea of like thinking about a lot of things at once from a listener. So would you read it for us today? Definitely so? This person is a Burmese from Burma interesting about living in Singapore. Okay interesting so thank you for your amazing podcasts. You've been part of my daily commute to the office. It does help me a lot with natural native conversations especially when you're adding many new episodes regularly which makes me practice often. I'm I'M I. Bought the premium announced a at the bottom. Oh sorry I didn't see that. No I have a question. So here's our question question about how to describe if you're thinking about too many things at once rather than being focused. I tried searching Antonyms for focus which gave me distracted. That's not quite what what I intend to say to be. More specific recently me and my friend were planning a trip to the US east coast. And I was naming quite a number of cities and places. I want to explore like Boston. Mit Maryland New Hampshire in Bahamas. And I wanted to describe it. I was having too many ideas and disorganized thoughts rather than focusing on a few cities. I was telling her that I wanted to do island hopping hiking and visiting historical places. And so many things I was so excited. And my thoughts were so disbursed or scattered going all over the place in the US although the city's could be from north to south and east to West. Could you please simplify how to say that expression in one word or say it in more effective and understandable choice of words? Who Big Question? Yes good question though. Thank you and then really appreciate your help. Thanks IN WARMEST REGARDS A. Wow Yeah. That is a great question. I mean well that's good that you know there's a lot of things to be excited about. Maryland. That's my area. So that's how this excited to hear about Maryland. But Yeah Good Question. Yeah. I think this tends to happen to me when I talk about travelling to like. Get so excited about this. What about this? What about this right? It's fun it's fun when you get so excited about something that you just can't stop coming up with different ideas for sure that's true especially if you're like an idea person there is always bubbling up right and then the hard part is making the plan settling down and planning it out. Yeah right right right definitely but like that initial brainstorming thing. I think is cool to just like throw everything out there. I love that. I'm glad that you know a is so excited and enthusiastic about exploring. Yeah it's okay to just throw things out there. Usually you know what stage of planning are you in? Are you an actual planning or are you in creating an itinerary? What are you actually doing exactly exactly so guys before we get into this more definitely head over to episode eleven forty four? Which is are you on an English. Kick talking about the word kick and you know kind of being excited about something so that would be a really good one for you to listen to. Yeah this is good. So it sounds like she is wanting to sound a little light hearted and a little self deprecating. Is that right Michele. And do we think that's what I think. I'm kind of going with a lot of things that you were mentioning from the question I apologize. I'm getting a little bit of the wrong idea But we're GONNA take crack at it here so I think this is a good way to connect to kind of explain. You know that you're being this way and explain how it like I said self deprecating I think is always good adds a potential moment of connection like you said if you are just overwhelmed with your ideas you have to laugh and say something to the other person that helps you guys bond right right right exactly so I guess I take that back self-deprecating an- always good but this situation. I think they could be fun. So we're going to go with it today and I could see. I mean I could see myself doing this. I could see myself listing a bunch of things. I wanted to just totally making fun of myself and I think that's fine. Yeah these phrases guys you know. Stay tuned here. Because these phrases that we're about to show you could be really useful in the aisles. Especially if your answer on one of the speaking parts feels a little disorganized if you were to throw out something. If you're already feeling disorganized in speaking partout for example you and you were to say. I'm a little scattered rain right now. Sorry let me get back on track. That would be incredible for your fluency rice score. You're going to get more points for that your vocabulary scores going to get higher and Michelle. There is one place that our listeners could go there on that eilts pathway. Right right right. Yeah what what can they do? Yeah so what they do is they could take a quiz score we score. We have a special quiz. That will show you guys what score you would get if you took the outs tomorrow at seven questions. So you guys can go to all ears. English dot com forward slash. My score to take that quiz. It's so cool. I have to tell you that's awesome. I love it. Oh my gosh and I've had so much fun You know I've been on the podcast a couple of times and I just love the way that things are talked about and taught and I think that you know I can see from the podcast that these would be really great things that could really Jessica Anne Aubrey. I think. Talk a lot about impressing you know rushing the examiner -actly exactly and I feel like these ones are like pretty natural and I feel like they would do that. These are pretty good so guys one more time. Just go over to all ears. English dot com forward slash. My score and you will get your potential score if you took aisles tomorrow. Who that's right if you're taking this year then you might want to know what your score would be. If you took the test tomorrow you can find out with just seven questions in our quiz. Go to all ears English dot com forward slash my score and then get the resources that you need. According to your level all ears English dot com forward slash. My score all right so here we go. So Yeah Lindsey. We talked about scatter-brained right like us. Yeah I think the listener mentioned the word scattered. And yes. I feel like this one's a little self deprecating. Sometimes people might use it seriously. I would not describe someone in this way. I think it would be rude Yeah I agree I agree. Especially if they don't WanNA come off that way. Right would be rude. Sometimes it's nice to be able to just say this because it helps you relax like I remember even in the last couple of weeks being in meetings where I want to accomplish something so badly and I want to be more organized but in that moment it's not necessarily the right time to be organized but I have to admit that I'm just a little scatter brained and it's okay if there's an element of humility here right right exactly so for example. If I were in this conversation about where to go I would probably say something like. Wow Oh my gosh. I'm so scatter-brained I just WanNa go everywhere and I can't focus. Yeah Yeah I like that. I like that. You're just admitting that right. Now you're in a different state of mind right right definitely Lindsey. What's something else gets a okay so to be all over the place to be all over the place very natural for example. I'm so sorry I'm just so excited about all the possibilities. I'm over the place right right. Yeah I know say this a lot. I I know I do. I mean it can also as negatively like if I said she can't decide what to do about the job she's all over the place right. It could yeah. I could be a little like just kind of talking down about the person a little bit. Like she's disorganized. She doesn't know what she's doing. She's all over the place right right right definitely. I think this is. I think that's my. This is my most natural one that I would go to. I go to the word Goto we did. We did SHELIA. We've got so many episodes at this point. Guys go in search come back to the website. Search our blogs. If you use the cap you can search for phrases right in there and pull up the episode. You want definitely all right. What's another one Lindsey? We got a couple more all right here. We go. My mind is buzzing. I feel like this is has a better connotation like a more exciting in positive connotation am I wrong yeah I think so too I mean. What does this make you think of like? What does it mean your mind is buzzing so like this? That does maybe when just there's just a lot going on the frequency right right right right. Yeah so like everything is all the thoughts are coming together and all you can hear his buzz so much so I could say something like. Oh my gosh I have so many ideas. My mind is buzzing. Yeah and this is just as a as a bonus guys. This is also linked to the idea of like creating buzz around something like when when you know brands launch a new product. They're going to launch a new version of Coca Cola. They'll create buzz around that maybe having events or getting celebrities to sponsor them before they launch or as they're launching they create buzz right. So yeah that's interesting too and then the last one is can't think straight Yeah I like this one. I could be using a lot of ways. I mean it could be about someone also just being very confused. I feel views all the time. But that's Okay. I can't think straight right so I could say oh. There's so many possibilities. I can't think straight so focus. Yeah these are all really great really natural. I Love Them. Yeah yeah so I mean aside from this travel discussion I mean what are other times. You might use this. I mean you walk into a large grocery store grocery stores in the. Us are huge hat. Right there yes you do and that can be overwhelming you just. You don't know scatter brained. You're all over the place. You don't know what you're trying to buy. You don't have a rhythm. I tend to develop like a route through my regular grocery stores. I know where I started and but do you do that. Do you go in a different way. Every time I mean I know the places that I have to hit but I think if you if you saw like a map of me going through the grocery store you would like see me like keep on going back to the same okay. There would probably be some song you know like like you know some song. One of those songs sounds like when someone is like circling around. And you know what I mean. Okay yeah I I think I know what you mean. It's interesting. They say this aside I always remember like learning about when it comes to like nutrition. They say at least in the US to stay on the outside of a grocery store because that's where all the fresh food is like the keys. Dairy when you get into the middle you get into like the packaged foods and the preservative. Pack stuff that's interesting. Just a side point. I think that's true. I'm thinking about my grocery store and that's definitely true. Yeah I wonder if that's true in other countries or just the way I think it's probably a worldwide thing but it's just that we have more foods with preservatives so anyways all right actually the point. Yeah another time is. Let's say you're trying to quickly leave the house but there are a lot of things you need to do. I like clean up or gather your things like I would definitely say. I'm all over the place like if my mom called me and I was trying to leave the house quickly. Mom all over the place. Call you back. All I got the I have a recurring nightmare that I I'll I'll be dreaming that I have to all of a sudden leave for the airport and nothing is packed is like a recurring fear. Becomes up in dreams like I have to get on a plane and it's leaving like an hour and a half to pack this guy. I don't know I have this kind of panic thing. I don't know I don't have that but Yeah I mean that is another time like packing for a trip. You could say that. Yeah you could totally say that. I don't know so weird. Yeah do you make lists when you pack sometimes for a big trip? I will for sure. Like we're trying to plan a trip to Egypt Ryan later in the year and That's one on the list because we'll need probably need to think about lots. Lots of different things like weather and all these different things money. Yeah there's a lot to think about though okay. Well let's do a role play so lindsay. We are gathering things for our plane trip. I still haven't finished packing and we leave tonight. Okay so similar to my nightmare exactly. That's one great year. We got A. Wow so you're not ready. I know I'm so scattered right. Now Lindsey one pack all my newest outfits and shoes and I need snacks calmed down Michelle. You're just excited and can't think straight I know. My mind is buzzing. Do you have a packing list? I'm all over the place all help you. I wonder where we're going in this fictitious role play. I wondered too probably somewhere definitely. So what did we use here? We've scatter brained brain. Yup and you said you're just excited and can't think straight yeah and then you said my mind is buzzing. And that's also based on kind of excitement real low lying excitement. You just can't wait to go exactly and then I said all over the place and cool. So what's the takeaway for today Michelle? What should we leave our listeners? With guys these are great ways to share what is going on in your head right and there are great ways to connect and some of these can be used in positive ways or negative ways or both right but all about connection possibly through joking about your own state of mind right. Lindsay exactly Michelle. That's a really good point. This is a connection skill. Because we're all our minds are crazy right. Things are always going on in our minds and it's not organized but if you can admit that's power right that'll help everyone calm down in on the exam. It will increase your score because you are articulating in your automatically scoring vocabulary points. Meanwhile you're getting extra time to organizer answers so it's a brilliant strategy for Michelle. Do you remember that link? Wor listeners can go real quick to take that quiz that score quiz yes. It is all ears English dot com slash my score. Yeah very cool good topic today Michelle. This was fun. Thanks to the listener and I hope the trip is Great. Yeah absolutely I'll talk to you soon. Have a good one bye bye. Thanks for listening to all ears English. If you're taking I off this year. Get your estimated band score with our two minute quiz. Go to all ears English dot com slash my score and if you believe in connection not perfection hit subscribe now to make sure you don't miss anything see you next time.

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Full Episode: Friday, June 14, 2019

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Full Episode: Friday, June 14, 2019

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I looked at my father, and I showed him how I felt with my eyes and the stunning final twist one families twisted reality. Michelle summers. She's gorgeous. She's just beautiful on the inside and out. Very graceful and classy, and loving Michelle was just twenty one years old when she met Martin McNeill, and within months of meeting Martin the two of them, eloped and were married and began a family very quickly. They Dopp children from crane. In the distance and the family grew to not just four children. But. Martin McNeill was appointed by the governor of Utah to be to head up a very large medical facility. It was a very big job. He walked in the room, sort of took it over like he was above everybody. We did try to warn her. He had total control when my father turned fifty he started acting very strangely. He became just very obsessed with losing weight and his appearance one hundred your mom react, she was suspicious Michelle became very suspicious and confided in her daughter Alexis that she thought that her husband was having enough air, Michelle confronted Martin McNeill, with allegations of an affair and ever, they manipulator. He turned the tables on Martin McNeill convinced her she needed a full on facelift. She was afraid that she was losing. Her husband Martin had found a plastic surgeon and came in with a list of things that he wanted Michelle, too. Have Michelle ended up being prescribed Percocet, Laura tab, valium. Ambien Finnigan Martin McNeill insisted his wife, go home with prescriptions for lots of sedatives and painkillers. The surge of defer to Martin McNeill, because Dr McNeill, plan to take care of his wife, personally, what could go wrong, when she came out of surgery. How did she look too bad? You say that the next morning when you saw your mom, she was heavily Medicated. She was completely sedated and out of it. And I went right to my dad, and he said, oh, I think I gave her too much. And he said, oh, your mother threw up. So then I gave her more medicine. I said dad don't give her any more medicine. I'm I'm going to take over. One night. Michelle Robson bombshell. She started to cry. She said, if anything happens to me, make sure it wasn't your dad. I of got upset. The night before Alexis went back to medical school Alexis center. Mom looked great. On April eleventh Martin went into work as normal. Picked up eight from school and arrived at the house around eleven thirty five. She ran and just calling, mommy. Mommy. My dad stayed in the kitchen while she went into the bathroom and founder. And then she screamed for my dad. Their way is your wife breathing? With Martin McNeill, decides to call his daughter, Alexis he reaches medical school. He said your mom, she's in the tub, she's not breathing of called an ambulance, and the knee hung up and I was just screaming kilter. That was my first instinct he killed her. She said, dad murdered mom Barton has had, somebody flush all of Michelle's medication down the toilet. I mean as soon as I heard that things were just starting to add up, my mom was concerned because rather than spending more time at home, he spending more and more time away at the office while he was sleeping printed out all of his phone records. And we found this number that he'd been calling a lot gypsy, Jillian Willis. Gypsy. Jillian Willis was a woman that Martin McNeill had met online, did you know, he was married? I did my father demanded that we have a funeral within just a couple of days among the crowd was gypsy, Jillian, Willis, you crashed her funeral. I, I had felt sorry that I had been involved with Martin and appropriately. We'd come to find out that my dad had been dating gypsy for several years before my stuff. Martin had a set plan right away. He was going to hire a nanny, and said there is going to be an interview for a nanny, and that was gypsy. Why did you move into the home Martin told me that he needed help with his younger children were you still sleeping with them? So were you the nanny or were you the girlfriend? I moved in to help with the kids. I when we had opportunity, I still slept with him. So you were both. It's going to look at it like that she walked into the house, like she owned the place and then I'm gonna questioned my dad, and he said, oh, she's a guest in our home. He wanted to make it that it was either gypsy, or a shoulder and he chose the nanny nanny, but you must have been shocked when three months after she died. He proposed marriage to you. I wasn't shocked seemed like a natural progression. I believe he loved his wife. He did sincerely mourn Michelle, but she was gone. And I, I didn't I didn't suspect anything unusual police didn't really conduct much of an investigation at all. They did it collect any of the evidence, close the book on this case and ruled it a natural death. Michelle's daughters were absolutely outraged that police closed the case so quickly on Michelle's doubt and Alexis and Rachel, and Michelle sister began their own investigation, and we went to the pleasant girl police we said, you know, we have this new information. We know about a girlfriend now. They took no knows they acted like we were out of our minds talking with the investigator, their pleasant grow. They felt like this was all a natural caused kind of thing. Could they have done more? They could have. But I think the initial response was appropriate. Doug Whitney, and Jeff Robinson were to investigators with the Utah county prosecutor's office and these were people that were assigned just to work, special cases. So I got information from the daughters, and I got enough to get investigative subpoena. Doug Whitney weekend, investigating everything he did and uncovered a life of lies when he was in his early twenties, he went to jail for check kiting was a convicted felon. He was charged with forgery fraud. We basically found out that our entire lives had been based in surrounded on lies that everything about our experience with our father was ally. You've played a part in destroying our whole family. On lunch. Your mother. One. Now. Nothing wrong, Michelle McNeill adopted, four girls. But I saw this little girl, and I said, are half to have her on the computer. I said, I thought L ADA, Sabrina and treselle to sell was the oldest stopped a daughter and she had family members back in the Ukraine. Just a few months after Michelle's death. Martin decided to send Giselle back to your crane for the summer for what was supposed to be a very brief trip. His sent to sell back home to the crying for just two months. But then those two months against stretching into almost a year the rest of the family couldn't understand. Why just sell didn't come home? Little did they know that McNeil and gypsy. Willis had taken. She sells social security gypsy, Willis assumed g cells identity. How did this idea come up when I got together with Martin? I had a, a lot of tax debts, probably in the range of fifty or sixty thousand dollars. Was martin. This is Martin's idea. This was Martin's bacteria. Why did you do it? I said, I didn't want to I he said that this is the best way to do is temporary. It's not going to hurt anybody. You got to fake military ID cards, three joint banking accounts using a fake name. You gotta fake birth certificate a fake, Utah state ID card, and a fake social security card. How could you be passive participant in that Martin was very horrible? He was very influential. I just assumed that he knew what he was doing to sell had no idea what was going on her. Identity was being stolen when Michelle sister Linda discovery still in the Ukraine. She set plans in motion right away to bring her back. With the family didn't know was that this incredibly compassionate act of going to rescue his L and bring her home would put a total wrench and all of Artons plans. Now to people without social security number. There's two people with that name once the identity theft was uncovered Martin gypsy were both arrested and they were both convicted and sentenced to separate prisons where they served time for the identity theft Martin has gone, but not forever. He's only behind bars for four years. So the family knows will be out eventually, and it leaves them time to basically wonder what else is Martin McNeill, capable of doing investigators became convinced that Martin had killed Michelle because he wanted to be with gypsy. Nightline the perfect nanny will continue. 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Investigators have doctor Martin McNeill, and his lover where they want them behind bars. The last sentencing hearing, the only thing he said to me is, I hope you're happy, Alexis all of Michelle McNeil's, daughters believe that Martin McNeill killed her. What do you think? The reason we have home aside, investigational right now, as we believe that there's probably caused that there's foul play involved here, Michelle's sister, pushed and pushed and pushed until finally authorities agree to review. Michelle McNeil's toss calls report. And when they did they found a toxic drug cocktail finally success. It was changed them. Natural to undetermined long story. Short undetermined opens the door to the possibility of murder. More big meal was charged with murder of his wife. Michelle. After long years of fighting for Justice for Michelle, there was such tension around finally going to trial, the defenses position was that Michelle died accidentally the prosecution presented a case that Martin had meticulously plotted Michelle's death. Dr Scott Thompson was the plastic surgeon who performed Michelle's facelift hydra code on liquid as well. So to pain medication prescriptions. Why did you prescribe it here because Martin was a physician? And he asked me for these things. Was it your intention that Michelle take all these drugs together? No. Would you have prescribed this combination to her? If Martin was not a physician, no taking center stage, a model of a bathtub, this bathtub, ladies and gentlemen, has an important story to tell there's about an hour and a half period of time where no one really knows where Martin is Russia will give Michelle the drugs fix her up a bath get her in the tub holder. Head down Martin described. Finding Michelle in the tub as if she was outside the tub, but bent over with her head down underneath the water. When in reality, she was found entirely inside the top with her head up above the water while Martin was serving time for identity fraud and a Texas prison inmates learned that he was suspected of killing his wife after watching television show, just pretty much opened up about it. He said he gave her some Oxy is sleeping pills in the. Got her to get in the bathtub did he say what he did next later on? He just said he had to help her out. And I said, what that was. He said he held her head underwater photo. The jury was left trying to determine who is telling the truth. Doctor Martin McNeill or an inmate in the texture can of federal pin was about one fifteen in the morning when the jury came into the room and delivered their verdict is true macneil, if you will stand, please. Visionary dependent as count one murder guilty. I burst into tears. Had it took my breath away because they knew. You know, I knew he was going away. Now for good gypsy. Willis was never charged with murder, because we couldn't prove that she was involved as either a direct participant, and Michelle's murder, or even an accessory. We believe she was the motive but we simply did not have the evidence to prove that she murdered Michelle or was an accessory to her death. So many people think that you must have known. Or that you were in on it. As is incorrect. I don't believe Martin murdered, Michelle. What would you say to Alexis and Rachel. I am so sorry for any part I played in anyone's pain. I don't feel like she has any any remorse. She's a very evil person in two thousand seventeen Martin McNeill delivered. One more shock to the family, all Utah doctor who murdered his wife was found dead today at the Utah state prison prison sources claim it appears to be a suicide Alexis. Call me. And we both screamed and cried. He had recently lost his appeal and he was going to remain in prison. And he probably saw it is just no life at all. Rachel Vanessa and I were standing over his body seeing him in the funeral home. I was able to tell my father that I forgave him that I loved him and not feel fear. And not feel anger. I able to let go of feeling that hatred in that pain and just obsessing over my father's act. Alexis ended up successfully adopting her little sisters, and has sprays them with ADA, Sabrina and L Alexis is now married with children of her own. Now I just can't imagine how, how much joy she'd have with, with my children being in our lives. She's, she's missed out on so much. We celebrate her every January fifteenth balloons and cake. And she would have been sixty two. Don't be finally tonight, a program reminder. We've got it covered. You don't feel like you're behind. You're not fighting for haven't even started yet. Do you find? 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Tom Brady, Bruce Arians, and Mike Tomlin

The MMQB Podcast with Peter King

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Tom Brady, Bruce Arians, and Mike Tomlin

"Sports bettors are you ready when you bet with points. Bet you get faster bets. Faster withdraws and faster rewards donald up. Now sign up with code. Nbc pod one hundred to get to risk free bets up to two thousand dollars. Terms and conditions apply. Border prohibited must be twenty one years roller gambling problem. Call one eight hundred number for crisis counseling and referrals. Welcome to the peter king podcast back at home after eighteen training camps away over the past month and bag at home in brooklyn recording from here today. And i've got a fun podcast for you. I'm gonna play you too long. Soundbites of for my conversation. Last week in tampa with tom brady and i picked them because i thought that they were the most fascinating and the things i learned the most about. So we'll have that. Then we're also going to hear from tampa bay coach. Bruce arians who was revealing. I thought nar conversation. And also i stopped in at the steelers. Preseason game saturday night against detroit and had a brief conversation with mike tomlin. You'll hear that as well so before we get to that three notes of interest around the national football league as the teams get ready to play their final preseason game everybody will play their final. Preseason games this weekend so obviously. There has been not necessarily a co vid outbreak in buffalo. But with the news that one of the trainers a had has cove it and was in close contact to several bills now five bills players included including noted anti vaccine or or whatever. You would call it. Guy who doesn't believe in the vaccine cole beasley. Now we'll have to stay away from the team for five days and look this is all. This is a cautionary tale. Because just telling you this is what this season is going to be like in the nfl. I think especially with the southern teams. You know as. I was in new orleans jacksonville tampa. There was no question at all that those teams are highly concerned. And i mean highly concerned with what is going to happen. This season with cova d- Obviously mike variable the head coach of the titans has tested positive. So this is not only is it not over but it could be just as dangerous in just as big an interfering factor in the twenty twenty one season as it was in twenty twenty secondly the patriots have traded running back sony michelle to the rams michelle overall a disappointment in new england. The rams clearly desperate for an nfl caliber running back. When i was in rams cam the word was that they didn't think they had an every down running back on the roster and if they didn't get one what it meant was matthew stafford who already is going to throw the ball a million times this year would have thrown it even more so getting sony. Michelle means that the los angeles rams are going to be able to have a representative good running back who came into camp this year in really good shape and the fact is the patriots. Don't really need sony. Michelle there in very good shape and the running back position so they get either a fourth round compensatory pick next year from the rams or they'll get fifth and sixth round picks from the rams. I think it's a pretty good deal for both teams. The rams really don't value draft choices the way that most other teams in the league do. That's probably a discussion for another podcast. But it served them pretty well and making them contenders so far and finally a couple of things about the new orleans. Quarterback situation had a good conversation with sean payton. When i was in new orleans last week there was no question that the monday night. Preseason game against jacksonville was huge. For the new orleans saints because in tastes them hill and james winston were instill in significant competition for the quarterback. Job the starting quarterback job and as i wrote in my column this week. You just got the sense that the saints not that they were pulling for jameis winston necessarily but they thought that that was going to be the best thing for the team because if tastes them hill. Wins the quarterback job jameis. Winston is a classic backup quarterback but if jameis winston wins the job tastes some hill will play probably about two hundred snaps in the regular offense this year. He'll have a huge role on special teams And it's just better for the overall team. If winston wins the job and i think in the wake of his very solid performance. Monday night against jacksonville. That he probably will win the job. In fact by the time you hear this you may have heard that That he has been named the starter. Now i don't have any inside information on that but i would expect jameis winston to get the starting job. So let's get into our conversations now. I i'm gonna start with the couple of soundbites from tom. Brady one is about how what it basically takes for him to get familiar with a receiver and we talk specifically about a young wide receiver named jalen darden a fourth round pick from north texas. Who brady has been working with a lot in training camp Working with them individually and he's gotten pretty tight with darden professionally. And so i would expect darden to play some role with this team but the reason i thought this is significant. Gives you an idea of how tom brady thinks. And what's important for him right now for a young receiver and how and why it's so important for a young receiver to get on the same page. So here's brady on all that it was very I think it's good for me to kind of have different expectations coming in. I know where to park where my locker is what the game days elect with travel slight with the driver works like with the stadiums life. You know it's like last year was everything was new everything personally. Professional life relationships teammates opponents practice fields. The meals this year. It's like i know what to do. Know the offense. No terminology now really got to focus on you know how to make ourselves the best possible. It's it's not an easy on. This is heart fire and said something really good today. It's very simple game. It's very hard to execute. It's a very simple name. But it's very hard to get eleven people on the same page. I ever play. But that is intense effort to get eleven people coordinated individually it's simple throwing a hitch running routes and but now i gotta connect the movie received. That's a lot harder to confer receiver with line in front of me. That's now i got to do the same thing with a difficult blitz look. That's hard to do it now. I gotta play clock and our down is hard. It's got to be on the same page at the end of the day. Like no one can fix it except the quarterback see her doesn't matter what anyone else thinks. I'm throwing the ball. You're catching it. We got to be on the same page and we gotta connect and we gotta literally have a von the connection between us and you gotta take what. I'm thinking all the time. So the more you talk in the more you get the better it is and the longer i played with. Guys better is You know the shorter you play together. You can't cover everything five weeks of training camp for in two years together five years together. Maybe seven years together okay. It's pretty good. Play seven years together with the receiver and can make a magic allen. You know but after a year to banner still things. There's so many variables that you've got to get right and it's a it's a. It's a chess game. everything's new any. It's you have played. I changed the play. Then i look at you. And i changed the route than i see a defense that we didn't necessarily talk about but everything i gotta throw right here and said gonna throw in point two two two seconds in a laser chin-high to a place. I don't know where it's gonna be an you gotta run where i think you're going to run so it's just every player. It is what i'm thinking you know. And you gotta have someone that can take a take the critique the mid you know the coaching you got to be on the same page together so just it's constant communication. The second sound bite. I have from brady is about how. It's so different for him. This year compared to last year in tampa. I just enjoy the kind of thoughtful response in the fact that when i you know as i wrote in the column. I'm not sure we really appreciate a guy walk into his new team. Getting into the huddle for the first time with his new offense. Exactly one month before opening day and going on to throw for more touchdowns than patrick mahomes more yards and aaron rodgers and winning the super bowl by twenty two points. I mean there's a very good chance. That's the best accomplishment at tom. Brady's career but anyway he talks about his comfort level this year compared to last. So give it a listen. It was a really special year for a lot of reasons. You know a lot of Change you know to go from one place to another. And then he was magical. How how the team made it happen. I was very. I think you've become a free agent. This'll bado choices. There's a lot of reasons why you would choose tampa or another place. you know. i think when. I look back how fortunate i was to choose here because all the things that happened when i got here. We're better than even what i thought and it could have been different. And i think he'll be a better the whole time. I mean i. You went through some her champs. During the season perfectly. Payment to denver was hard is hard. I talked to him about it. He told me the for sure. I had with my first year. And i was expecting. Because there's so many situations and football that you have to cover and your one year in and you're you're two games in and things happen and it's like okay. We have a problem coach. Va has knowing how to solve that problem. One way i have in my experience solve the problem another way. It's the same problem we've identified it but in bruce's not and and byron. This is how he likes to do it in my mind go. This is what i think. And then how do we get on the same page show. They're confident i'm confident. And you'll use work through it. And i think they're so receptive to and i'm receptive event. Ultimately we want the same thing so just work through like okay. I got to relearn something and the as gone. I gotta remark and it actually makes a great for me and for him because the trust really pays off in the end for all of us. You know. haven't gone. I should on my way or here. Sugar my way or football's ultimate. You look around the league ultimate blame game. Yeah general manager and head coaches player. Quarterbacks receivers defense offense. It's so easy to blame someone else. Yeah it's so hard to say. I didn't get the job and we collect didn't get the job and that's the best part about team sports and i pick the team where everybody's like. Hey we gotta get. We gotta do it better and it's not. I got all the answers. You guys all screwed it up except me. That's that exact opposite way to play the game. You gotta play together. My thanks to tom. Brady and to particularly a shout out to nelson louise the vice president of communications with the with the bucks. I've been talking to him for a while about trying to get brady. And and he was very helpful in it and i really appreciate him His work and making so many people available to me when when i was in tampa for just a day last week. So let's move on to our interview with bruce arians. I enjoyed this conversation. Because i think it gives you a little bit of a feel of how arians is going to approach this year and just how different it is this year from last year. Here's bruce arians. With bruce arians the head coach of the super bowl champion. Tampa bay buccaneers. I have to ask you. Has your life changed now. You've won super bowl. You've coached a super bowl winner. Never gets old brother being introduced as that never gets old but You know finally after the ring ceremony we could put last year to bed and and get this team focused on this year job and put it in review mirror but Yeah that that part never gets you know. It was almost exactly ten years ago a decade ago. That you've got either depending on how you term it either fired or not renewed by the pittsburgh steelers and part of you thought. Well that's it. You're riding off into the sunset. And i wonder could you have ever imagined a that. You were going to coach another ten years and be that this would have happened. No not a million years You know One storybook book year change dollar lives. You know chuck's phone call to come to india ghana in the colts. Yeah he makes that call. We go to indianapolis and You know we're driving the road and my wife looks at the phone show. Shit you're gonna take this job. Wait till to see what he's got a but When when chuck got leukemia and got sick and they got an opportunity to to take over. It opened up all those doors that we're never going to open. And i knew they were never gonna open and it's a shame that took chuck to get sick for to happen but Life is funny man. It takes some crazy turn sometimes but just two more questions about you. That really interest me. Remember at that time even after you had the coach of the year season in indianapolis the only interim coach ever to do so. You still go through the first seven jobs of that postseason without getting a sniff. Seven jobs get filled. The only job left is the arizona cardinals and luckily you get that job but just imagine if they hire somebody else maybe. Maybe you're never head coach. Oh i i doubt i ever would have been you know. I took the chicago interview first. And then came back and really wasn't even going to take the arizona one because kenny wizard. How and russ grimm and kevin spencer those guys while went on super bowl within pittsburgh and i would have to let some of those guys go. We're good friends inside. I called kenney said bro. i don't know if i can take this interview. And he really talk me into take an interview while so let's go to the present tense now. You and your general manager jason. Light have brought everybody of great importance back to this team. The coaches are backed front offices back. Probably you're twenty five. Most important players are all back to me. That seems almost a blessing and a curse. Because you don't have a lot of new blood here. How has it been so far for you. Spent fantastic jason mike greenberg. jackie davison. Just did an unbelievable job of getting everybody back. And we're very fortunate with the hiring process happened before the super bowl. There's no doubt my mind had to hiring process happened. After the coaches for coaches have lost tight end byron and You also have your coaching staff. We even have staff meetings. We've been together so long. Everybody knows what to do where to go. How to do it and Coach coaches is harder than and players. And so as i have them back. Have all the players back to top twenty five to thirty guys. Then i thought we'd jason just hit a home run with the draft and the influx of new young guys that are gonna make big impacts on this football team and giovanni bernard talk about his impact early. Yeah was one of the guys really targeted in free agency. And it was a great interest on his part. Great interest on our part in a veteran back. That's solid pro person and fight football player. But he gives us a pass catching guy out of the backfield. That's been there and done it. And he's been a blessing in a lot of ways because of his preparation. He's one of those meticulous preparing guys. Nothing's going to surprise him in a ballgame Younger players are there any. Is there a downside at all to bring everybody back the whole idea. Maybe some people are complacent. Now i think with with the everybody's think thought would be complacency would be the problem. And you know. I gave all the veterans the entire spring off and We brought in forty five young players looking for about ten fifteen spots and mostly were special teams. So we spent the entire. Ota's with them. Then we brought the vets in for the mandatory mini camp. When you have dante david in. And i'll even throw devon young as years but devon white devon jason pierre paul shag dominance all the leaders. We have on defense. There's no complacency but the competition between our offense in our defense is relentless every day. Because they're both really top five in their Rain ranking so they wanna win every day and with brady on offense. They're not gonna be any complacency. I promise you what's brady lake in year. Two with the bucks it's night and day. I mean he knows how to get to work first of all. He knows where where to stop where to get groceries. All those things that that that affect your life but the terminology it just flows now. He seemed pictures in his brain when he calls the play. He knows the picture in his brain last year was just a bunch of words. What the hell's at me all the way up to by week nine It was it was just a learning process. Us learning him how to make him. Comfortable byron did just unbelievable job. I get way too much credit for anything that happens offensively. It's all byron and So now he can be more vocal he can even a better leader Because he'd really knows what the hell he's doing. You know what. I really remember about being here last year. Exactly one month before your first game of the season to give people an example of how difficult it was last year exactly one month. I saw the first practice where he huddled with his offense. Imagine you don't you don't get in a huddle with your teammates because a cova because of all the restrictions until thirty days before you have to play the new orleans saints in the super dome and that's why to me. The first few weeks of the season. I would have been surprised if you won. Many games at all. I was shocked. We've got to six and two our young defense. Getting better and better than and tom byron. Just working together. You know staying in their comfort zone as much as possible but yeah it was You know. I gotta staff unbelievable amount credit because we had to learn how to teach eat. Meat travel differently in a matter of thirty days for the entire season. You know we had to learn how to eat outside how to meet outside We have such a great facility kind of made it easier than most teams because we could meet outside and Then travel moving all your travel back not having meetings before the game all those things that go into a just it's Our guys on our staff our players on our staff just had a hell of a job. How different is it this year with the because you still have some restrictions obviously yeah everybody else is acts like they're normal we can't you know we've already had some positive cases on vaccinated people and so we have to still be extremely cautious family wise and still sacrificed a lot as players coaches and families. it's great to have the fans back blame great to have the fans bag but again they they are more normal than we are year in the belly of the beast with his delta variant in covert and everybody had hoped by now that every all of this would be over. It obviously isn't over. You still have to be cautious every day don't you. There's no doubt because we you know we've had fully vaccinated people get sick or test positive. But they don't get sick they just they have symptoms very mild but again you miss ten days of work so if if it's our players are going to miss a game or maybe two when you look at this coming season water the potholes that you look at entering twenty twenty one defending your title things. You can't control injuries. Injuries decimated team quickly obviously still covert. It's a huge part of it Missing time missing games and then for that. If we if we can dodge those two now love our chances. You wanna make a prediction. I think we'll dodge last thing. What have you learned in the last year and a half from tom. Brady well It was reaffirmed more than learn having been with peyton manning that preparation is the key and He prepares himself physically mentally as good as anybody i've ever seen. But he is such an unbelievable coach to younger players. Not just on the field. But off the field with tb twelve and some of the things that he does to teach young players how to do it the right way and he really embraces. That and i never knew that about him is probably the most positive thing i can say about him and this year. Who've you seen him kind of take under his wing or help allot. I remember last year watching him and oj howard He really was on top of oj. Howard i thought. Oj however is going to have a great year until he got hurt no doubt about it and and scott miller really blossom. I think if you look jalen darden a young rookie Tom sees a lot of solid things. He likes and Trying to get him very comfortable in his raynor's in his role and You know some of the young offensive linemen that might give depth. You know helping them to. Hey bruce good luck. This is gonna be fun to watch. Thank you pete's always fun support for this. Podcast comes from better help online. Therapy go to better. Health dot com slash. Peter king for more info. 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Shoppers cargurus here with your word of the day confident. You know that feeling you get when you're about to rock an outfit so killer. It's going to drop jaws worldwide. What if you could get that feeling well. Shopping for a car with cargurus. You can shop more cars than you'll find on other leading car shopping sites find a deal. That's really really great and see all the details that matter like mileage accident history even days on lot all on cargurus then context the dealer knowing your stuff and feeling more confident than well ever visit cargurus dot com today. My thanks to bruce arians for his time in a very very busy day around. The buccaneers last week. So we'll end the interview portion of the podcast with With mike tomlin who you know this year it'll be as fifteenth season coaching. The pittsburgh steelers. And i still find it. Amazing that he will end. This year's i say in here he won't turn fifty until after this season. Imagine coaching for fifteen years with one team before your fiftieth birthday. I just think that's amazing anyway. Here's mike tomlin. After the steelers victory over the detroit. Lions at heinz field. Mike he just finished off a win over the detroit lions but in the pre season. It's not necessarily about that. It's about answering the questions that you guys have. Tell me about your offensive line which you probably are going to start five guys at different positions than they started a year ago. There have been two things that have been really impressed with i their level of conditioning and collectively groups in great shape. And that's a catalyst for everything and lastly there finish. I like the direction that the palace fallen. I like to Guys finishing plays with We continue to to build off of that foundation. I'm confident that we're going to have the type of cohesion and half the second line and we need a lot of coaches would look at an offensive line. Making five major changes the way you did. Maybe fear is the wrong word but with some trepidation. How did you feel knowing that you were going to make all of these changes in the off season. You know it's just part of it You know we we you know. We were last in the league last year and run the football. So you know they're not allowed of room places the fall We don't live in fear. We live in hopes and dreams. We're excited about this group that we're putting together in a way that they're working in a way to come together. Najji harris has been a revelation throughout the off season through training camp. What have you seen him. That gives you hope he can be an impact player early. He's just a tremendous competitor and just about every circumstance. We put him in. Not only the things that you see stadium but probably more importantly day-to-day practice in competition period. Drill work He's got a thirst for the competition in an s exciting. The interesting thing about your team is that very rarely. Do you have an end of the season kind of as devastating as you guys had and then have to come into the next season and think boost your team and say hey we're gonna make it. We're gonna be okay. How did you deal with your team. Mentally after how last season ended in always devastating unless you to world champ That's the mentality that we have. So i understand your question but we all know that we live in that world you know. We realized that we set out to be world champion. Idi are aren't and we weren't and also we load up and we go with an effort to be world champs in two thousand twenty one. Do you think you've ever seen the division that you're going to be playing in as strong with at least three teams and maybe the bengals to as strong as this division is you know we don't pay a a bunch of attention to to the preseason hype or or non hype. We're just preparing ourselves to play respect Everybody we play against. We expect competition in our division is always gonna be rough and tumble. But that's no indication of record in so we just proceed with that understanding. We're ready ourselves for the fights that line hit last thing. You're entering your fifteenth years coach. You aren't even fifty years old yet. And i wonder is you look at. Why so many young coaches in the nfl are making an imprinting getting hired early on the way you did. What do you see. you know. i'm not gonna pretend to understand what people are looking for But it just some dynamic young coaches some bright coaches out there some guys that are on the cutting edge innovation and i think people want part of that offense and defense mike like this year. Thank you my thanks to tom. Brady bruce arians mike. Tomlin hope you learn something from those conversations. I am going to be back next week. And i'm not sure. I'm going to do any more interviews from the road kind of exhausted them. I might pull one or two of them out. But i think next week. I'll just start telling you a little bit about some of the things. I saw the road what i think how. It's changed my opinion about this season. But if there's anything you want to hear on the podcast or you want me to discuss on the podcast. Please send me an email at peter. King f. m. i. a. edgy mail dot com peter king f. m. football morning in america at gmail.com and i will try to get to your request next week on the podcast. Hope you enjoy the final week of the preseason games i have to tell you i'm probably not going to be watching a lot of them. There's a couple of things i have in mind. I want to see this weekend. But you'll see a pretty good chunk on both the ravens in the steelers in football morning in america. Next monday august. Thirty hope you enjoy. That learned a lot on my visit. Visits to those two places have a great weekend. Everyone and really look forward to starting to really look forward to the 2021 nfl ceased.

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John Lennon tras los Beatles: activismo, paternidad y el fin de semana perdido

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John Lennon tras los Beatles: activismo, paternidad y el fin de semana perdido

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How To Save For Your Kid's College Education

How To Pay For College

27:43 min | 2 years ago

How To Save For Your Kid's College Education

"If you ever want to give yourself anxiety I mean serious. Anxiety try one of these online calculators. For how much money you need to be saving for college. I've I've done some of the online calculators to tell me how much I should be saving per month at this point for our daughter. They were suggesting that we save like a thousand dollars and a hit not doable. That's a listener Valerie. Finna Meyer. And she's right. I mean saving money for your Kids College for many of us that it can seem like an impossible possible task. I mean the sticker price for a four year private schools like two hundred thousand dollars per kid. It's like how is this even remotely possible and if you start late it's even harder. Take it for me. But don't panic back away from the ledge saving for college is not easy butts. You can probably save a lot more than you think especially once you decide. Look this is on. We are going to do this. And you know parts of it might even even be kind of fun. You can get creative albion as I use it as a hammer for my kids like you. Don't pick up that shooting no college fund for you EH. They were fighting with each other. I'm going to give your brother Your College Fund this is your NPR Life Kit for paying for college the episode how to save money advance. Your kids don't have too much student. Loan debt I'm Chris Arnold I cover personal finance consumer protection. And we're going to give you seven important Jordan things that you need to know to start squirreling away and investing money in a smart way. So we're going to get into five twenty nine plans the best savings strategies and we we even have to pay anything close to that sticker price. Anyway we'RE GONNA learn how to do this right and I promise you that your kids are going to love you for it right after this. Okay so the first thing we're going to do is blow up a myth because blowing up Mrs Kinda Fun and this method gets in the way of a lot. The people saving money for college and I have to admit that I fell victim to this too when my kids were little. There's this idea that if you save a pile of money for your Kids College College the college is GonNa Pay Great. I mean this person can pay a lot for college and you don't need any financial aid so I figured I'll be much much better off. Probably right if if I put all my savings into by retirement account colleges. Don't look at that and then I'll get a lot more financial aid because I don't have any the money saved up and we'll take out student loans or something on the back end markets Pam. Later Gray plan no no no. There's you're going. Oh your heart's on her. The that's Michelle Single Teri. She's a personal finance author and columnist for The Washington Post. Now my parents do think that like the more I say asking to be the less that my kids going to get for financial aid. But guess what they're going to look at your income. This is the thing that you need to understand. When it comes to getting financial aid aide your income counts against you like twenty times more powerfully than any money you saved up for your kids college and this is our first takeaway tip number one? God Save as much as you can for college. And that's because it's not GonNa hurt you very much at all when it comes time to get financial aid. So here's how this works. Schools want you to save money right. I mean the system works because people save money that they can pay for their kids to go to school and that means that they. I don't WANNA punish you for saving by giving you know financial aid. So when they calculate how much aid you're eligible for it's like they put on magic glasses. It's okay and they look at you and they say how much money these parents make. And how much can they actually afford to pay. And your income like glows bright orange with these glasses. It's like blanking and they're like okay. Well if you make two hundred thousand dollars a year you're going to be paying for college but the money that you saved. The magic glasses can barely even see that money. It's it's mostly hidden your college savings. Just doesn't get considered that much. So yeah that savings is not going. The difference between you know huge need base package for your child absolutely right to get some actual numbers on this. We talked to Sandy A and E bow. She's an economist with the Urban Institute and she spent her entire professional life studying this higher ed finance stuff. So if you saved a thousand on dollars you're expected contribution would go up by fifty six dollars so thinking that you would be better off if you just didn't have that thousand dollars doesn't make any sense at all. It's a lot better to have the thousand dollars than it is to have the fifty six dollars that the financial aid system would say a you could get or if you save a twenty thousand dollars you're expected contribution. She says might go up by about eleven hundred bucks. You'd be so much better off than having. Ah come up from nowhere with the twenty thousand dollars and I think that once people hundred sentence like I get it okay. You're so much better off. Having saved the money much better off having saved the money also says depending on the school you might not get all of the financial aid that you're technically eligible for any way. They just don't have the money. aww everybody's needs so so it is true that saving has a tiny impact on the amount you're expected to pay but it has has a very small impact and might not even have an effect on how much granted you end up with all right so we want to save the money. But what's the best way to do that. Sandy recommends using what's called a five twenty nine plan. Will you put money into an investment account specially made to to save for College. The five twenty nine college savings accounts are good idea. The advantage of these plans is that they are tax. Free that your money grows tax straight and you withdraw tax free to pay for college. That is really powerful right because if you start early the money you put in the account could easily double. By the time you're goes goes to college and you get that entire gain. You have to pay any taxes on that that just goes right to pay for college and another thing. That's really cool about these. Five twenty nine is they're set up up in a really simple way a lot of them where you just say okay. My kid is two years old or ten years older. Whatever it is? And then you're put into the right account. Where where everything's adjusted and calibrated for the number of years? You have left till your kid goes to college now. You probably know that you need to save right but balancing saving for college with other things that you need to save for your retirement or paying back your own student loans. That can be tricky. And we I heard from a lot of you who do struggle with trying to figure out. Okay what what's the right way to do this. So I am Valerie. I live in Chelmsford Massachusetts and and I work as a physicist at MIT so Valerie works and academia. She's a researcher. Her husband works in public health. They are highly educated but they don't don't make massive amounts of money in meanwhile they're paying two thousand dollars a month on their own student loans that they check out to get those advanced degrees and it's habit that Boston is this incredibly probably expensive place to live and so saving for college and retirement both has been really hard. I'M GONNA ten year. Old Daughter just turns ten tomorrow and seven year. Old Son son so I actually was trying to save for college and then got a lot of advice from A friend financial advisor and some others that I should be be focusing more on my retirement because you can always borrow for college. You can't borrow for retirement and so we switched our focus over to just making sure we got the Best Bang for our buck with the employer matching now this is our next takeaway tip number two. You do want to prioritize saving for your own retirement ahead of saving for your Kids College. That's true a lot of financial advisers. Say this you need to have money to live on when you retire right but Michelle says people still make a really big mistake here. What's the right smartest best way to try to balance all this so listen to to what someone told her? And I it just drives me mad when financial advisers. Tell people will you. Can you can't borrow for retirement but you can ball for college coach and this and the result was instead of saying okay. I'm going to try to do both stay a ban in one. So that's why you got to stop. Stop saying that and people stop listening to that. That is bad advice. No it's it's true on its surface but psychology of. Why are we here on our money? We can't kind of process these two things that we go okay. We're GONNA just do one but look at them so now they're in dead and now they can't say for their kids in so what I tell. Parents is yeah. It's tough to do both but it's not an either or situation you have to try to do both so you would do at least put in enough to get your company match and you also say as much as you can for your kids college front. It's not either or both are necessary. Sarah and that brings us to our next takeaway tip number three. Don't get overwhelmed and defeated. If it seems impossible to say the full cost of your kid's college saving something is a lot better than saving nothing and to find some motivation here. Because we're GONNA need motivation to go with me. We're GONNA take goat from an ancient Chinese philosopher and says the giant pine tree grows from a tiny sprout. The journey of a thousand miles starts from beneath. I need your feet and is it Kinda like that. It's like well okay. Look you think Oh. I can't possibly save enough. Why bother throw up your hands but you start with a little bit? You start just making taking the first automatic payment and and it will grow. I mean is it Kinda like that. It is Kinda like that you know. We've talked about this all the time. The the financial challenges orange who have starts with not how much money you have. But it's a mental thing. Now maybe you can save enough that they don't have to borrow for books or they don't have to borrow offer this. Michelle says maybe starting with something small. You'll end up with a lot more money than you thought you'd be able to save the key here the the way you get this tree to grow out of the ground talking to Michelle there. I said you make your first automatic payment and this this is their next takeaway tip number four to be successful at saving for college or retirement or anything else. You have to make it automatic as in every single paycheck when it hits. It's your checking account. You were auto transferring a set amount of money into your college savings and investing account. We talk about why this is so powerful in our life get episode called. We'll get started saving but basically behavioral economists will tell you that look I mean us humans. We're just not wired for saving for the future unless we do it this way so my husband has set it up so that once a month but a certain day money comes right. Out of our paychecks goes right to the college front and that I call a set it and forget it. It is the best way to save for Your College Front for retirement. Anything that you're trying to save for because we're human we aude's get busy and then the other thing is that life happens and then you start to cheat yourself like this month. Maybe you over you blew past. You're eating out budget so instead of putting money into couch a savings account you've gotta logic credit card building. You expect it so you take that money to pay down the college credit card and then there goes the college fund for that month but if you do it automatic it's coming out you forget it and the U. adjuster spending to what's left so the research shows that when we make payments auto matic. Then we're more likely to be successful. That's Philip Gibson. He's an associate professor at winthrop university where he teaches personal finance classes. He also works works as a financial adviser and helps people save for college and set up their five twenty nine plants and pick the right one he also says making things automatic. That's just super were important because it makes saving a lot easier and after time you might not even notice that the payments were going out of the account because you have no become accustomed to to a particular budget or you're spending what you have. So you're not going to miss that money as much and Philip says a few more things. You need to know to do this right. He he says the thing about five twenty nine plans is that each state has its own way of setting up. These plans the hair different financial firms to manage them. And you can choose any the state's plan that you want and it's definitely worth shopping around. It doesn't take long. It's easy and it's worth it because some of these plans charge much higher fees than than others. So it's important that we understand how fees impact or returns. Philip says think about it this way saving investing is like taking a snowball and then rolling it down a hill. That's covered in snow. So if you start early and the ball starts rolling then over time it's going to get bigger and bigger because you're Adding money to that account and receive in return on your investment but if the fees are high in the account then or snowball isn't going to grow as big and as as fast as we would like it to be but now here's the tricky thing and the next big takeaway tip number five even fees. That sound sounds small like one or two percents. Those are not small. There's a really big fees and you want to pay the lowest fees possible so Philip says what happens is is this when we hear a one or two percent fee our brains kind of anchor that to the wrong number we owe one or two percent out of a hundred that sounds pretty small but that is the wrong way to think about it. Yes so if you're five twenty nine planners invested and it's invested somewhat conservatively. And you're less you get an four percent cent return and there's a one percent fee then. That's roughly twenty five percent off that return that is gone to the fine that you invested invested in. Okay so let's go ahead around this. There's a lot of numbers but one percents is a full quarter twenty five percent of your investment return right and it's that investment return year after year that piles up piles up and that is why that one percent fees not small. It's a big rice. This is going to do is really going to slow down around the amount of growth that you're getting in the portfolio and over time you end up with a much smaller snowball if you're giving twenty or twenty five percent of your investment return away I again and again year after year by paying fees. That are too high. It's really worth shopping around so that you can find a plan that is going to give view very low fees. Philip says one other thing you want to consider is that some states will give you extra incentives. If you invest in your state's plan you make an a tax break or some other the park and there's a very easy way to comparison shop all these different things out. There's a website saving for college dot Com. It's run by an author author WHO's also like the super expert on five twenty nine plants and it's a really well respected resource saving for college dot Com. Where you can compare all the five twenty nine plans out there? What the fees they charge everything about them so definitely check that out okay? This next thing is a lot more fun than thinking about fees. I promise because what you're gonNA find out when you set up a five twenty nine plan you start saving. You'd be surprised by how much friends and especially family members. Actually WANNA to help you out with this. We heard from one listener. Who did something very cool? He set up the planet before his child is even born and then for the baby shower. The couple told everybody nobody they said look. We don't need onesies. We have a high chair please. Just don't buy a lot of plastic stuff where we really really would appreciate is if you could just put anything Tan Hand Twenty Fifty Bucks whatever you can do into our five twenty nine account to help pay for our kids college and I was telling Michelle about this. They got well over a thousand dollars before the kids even born. I love it and it's like oh I mean if you start explaining that way it's like honey. Let's do this five twenty nine thing thing I wish I was. I thought of that. I love that idea when you're having a shower or the kid's birthday party people will always asked whether the kidney 'cause I do do that when I'm invited when my kids were little ready to call the parent it's like what does the kidney and then when you are asked that question you go listen. Kid really doesn't eat anything. But if your heart is inclined inclined and you were going to spend any money. Here's there are twenty nine plan and most of the five hundred twenty nine plants. I know Maryland does not only has a great page that you could set up with a picture of your kid it and then you can even send them a link and the link tanks some to a page and it makes it so easy to contribute like in less than five minutes you can contribute so you can make it easy for people to help you. Well the college money for your children and that's our next tip number six setting up a five twenty nine plan creates an easy way for friends and family to help kick in some money to help you save for college and it doesn't have to be a baby shower of course if you're starting later than ad could do it for the holidays or the next birthday party but the sooner you do it the sooner that college snowball starts rolling down the hill. And maybe even with a little help from your friends friends chipping eh birthday parties and stuff. It's fine. It's going to help a bit but most of us are going to have to dig pretty deep to save enough money for our kids college and Michelle who we've been talking to. She is a success story here. Michelle talks the talk but she definitely also walked the walk and which she did what I could was born. She started by putting children fifty dollars a month into a five twenty nine plan and then as she and her husband's incomes grew they started having more kids for each each kid was to fifty two hundred and fifty dollars a month. That's what it took times three which is still a lot of money for a lot of families. But that's it was affordable for us for twenty some years and that's all we did we. We set it up automatically so every single month no matter what money came out of our bank account went right into the state. Five five twenty nine plan now. Michelle says this was affordable for her. But this was not easy Michelle. Her husband. Do not come from any kind of money. And they had to watch their spending ending and their budget really closely and even to the point where the kids want a new shoes at their friends had nice shoes or a video game where they wanted to get to eat. More monkeys asked all I he is. Charlie Brown's teacher y tune it out. What can I have it essay note to whereas college for my friends heavy? Mommy please Mommy Mommy please. I said two two ways for your college Michelle's kids did not always like this but Michelle decided that she did not want her children to have to deal with student loans and with that a two hundred and fifty dollars a month you know that seed planted in the ground growing growing growing invested over time. She saved up enough money to send all three of her kids kids to state schools. But you know the best laid plans and all that Michelle's oldest daughter Olivia turns out really wanted to go out of state to the University of North Carolina. Beautiful School beautiful campus. Just loved it. She painted her room in the colors and she went to visit and it was just. It's like out of the movies and she was like a half to go here. Just GonNa die if I know go and then we looked at the cost. I said well you just going to have to die. Because you're you're not wanted to school. You know I mean you. We didn't have an UNC money. We had University of Maryland College Park Bunny. And that's what I child went and did she like it. Initially really not sure didn't and I locked my bedroom door because I didn't want her to smother me in my sleep. But she went and she had a great college experience she and she has now finished her masters degree program in social work so that's six years of college education and no debt for her or US us now. Michelle teaches a personal finance class at our church for couples and she was telling us that the people there and they weren't really buying saying that Michelle's daughter was okay with this whole thing. I mean. She painted her room. The colors of the school. You know I mean. This must've really sucked name like we don't believe your kids hate you. You know. They're all the stuff that you did and they knew made them go to a state school. So Michelle do this thing. She asked her daughter. Olivia come in and talk to the class and we actually got a video of this and this was right. Olivia was graduating from college and she started talking about how her friends were really stressed out about paying back these student loans that they taken taken out and my even my friend that I have that approval even say that just like sitting in on both conversations of like six months before you're dot com. I just don't have those got really emotional about this. Which Michelle didn't really expats bats? I didn't I didn't need issues like I'm graduating without debt. When I think about that like now I can that because I would be spending for my student loans I can put my and then just generational so what you have done for me is so amazing? I just really thank you both for that and people start flag so it's hard to hear but Olivia says my eight year old self. Thanks for that now. You've got me crying. Kids never stayed at t you now. Of course not everybody's GONNA be able to send their kids to college totally debt free or make the kind of decisions that Michelle did for her kids and there is no one right way to do this but one takeaway here. Is that if you do save money. You're really giving your whole family a gift. I mean if your kids have to borrow less. They're going to really appreciate that. And you're doing yourself a favor to because you won't be scrambling around your kids. I start school like how am I even. We're going to make this tuition bill and sandy bound says. Look even if you can't save all of the money most people can't right I mean so don't feel bad about that there. I used to be a a a movement to get people to think that you were going to save one third pay one third while the student was in college and borrow one third and that's not an unreasonable. Unreasonable way to think about it. If you can save any part of it that does a couple of things one it gives you the confidence and gives your child the confidence that there is money the day that you are dedicated to this that it's a priority and that you'll be able to pay for it also says to get a handle on a rough estimate even about how much she'll need to save she also says you can go to that website saving for college dot Com. It's got really good calculators. And you might find that you're likely to qualify for a substantial amount of it. That doesn't doesn't mean. Don't save money to save money. But for example full-time students at private colleges receive an average of more than twenty thousand thousand dollars a year in grant aid so that is a lot of money. There's a lot of granted out there so that might be encouraging and you start looking at that you know. Save third now pay thirty college and all. This can start to seem a lot more doable than you might have thought and it can also be scary. I mean when I did this actually for my kids. I plugged my numbers and I'm expecting to see like Oh. Yeah we'll get some greeted. It doesn't look like I'm going to get much and I did kind of freak out. But what within two weeks. I totally overhauled our approach with our five twenty nine savings plan with automatic payments now going in every month with a lot more money unlike really stretching and so sometimes steering reality in the face can be like a shock but it can also be a good motivator okay so we covered a lot of ground here so we can remember the most important stuff here come the takeaways tip number one. Sorry Myth Buster. Save as much as you can for college. That's because it's not going to hurt you very much at all when it comes to getting financial aid. If you've saved up a nice pile of money you will not not lose out much in financial aid. If at all you will be better off you will have an easier time paying for college if you have saved number two. You do want to prioritize I saving for your own retirement ahead of seven for your kids college but you still want to save for both. It's not an either or situation you gotTa do both number three. A giant tree grows may tiny sprout. So don't give up dr up your hands you can do this. Don't be discouraged orig- safe which you can as often as you can even as little as you can number four to be successful at this savings thing you have to make it automatic and you don't even realize it. The money's gone all right number five even fees that sound small like one or two percent. Oh that's so small. I know what you want to pay. The lowest fees possible is really worth shopping around so that you can find plan that is going to give you. The lowest is possible fees finally number six party time setting up a five twenty nine plan creates an easy way for friends and family to help kick in some money to help if you save for College for more. 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BONUS: Barack Obama Talks About What It Means To Be A Man

Consider This from NPR

49:17 min | 4 months ago

BONUS: Barack Obama Talks About What It Means To Be A Man

"Welcome to consider this from npr. And w amu. After the top story from npr. Stay with us for a look at what's happening here in the dc metro region from the w. amu newsroom. Hey consider this listeners. It's audie cornish it sunday. We've got a bonus episode for you and this one comes from. Npr member station wbz in chicago. They've got a podcast over. There called art of. It's about people who have wielded power in sometimes unexpected sometimes traditional ways but also in ways that have changed the world in which we live and in this particular episode. That person is barack. Obama art of power hosts arthur shahani spoke with the former president about feminism balancing personal and professional ambitions. And what it means to him to be. A man hears that episode of art of power from wbz. Be a man what it means to be a man. As an open and contentious question diametrically opposed models of manhood are battling it out everywhere from the home up to the american presidency which man winds will fundamentally reshape the world so i decided a colleague. I may know to talk about it. We're very comfortable. I think insane the girls. You can do anything you want. You know you can be a tomboy. You can be ambitious. You can be more reserved with boys. We still say sports money. Physical strength girls. It's it's which chimp has the most bananas today on art of power president. Barack obama occupies public. He is widely seen as the alpha among alpha males. The bro who plays basketball the leader of the pack. He is also the first american president to call himself. A feminist raised by strong women married to a strong woman during his presidency. He legislated for women's rights after his presidency. He's shifting focus to the inner life of men and boys among the most prominent men on earth he is pushing to redefine manhood itself away from domination and toward caretaking. Hello there how are you rt. I'm very good president properly almost perfect. Like a t. h. Sanskrit t. r. b. Arthey yeah president. Obama and i are on zoom in washington. Dc and me and my home office in oakland california saw a relatively new showroom. It is you're like the seventh or eighth episode. I think are the being on the ground floor. He's eighth guest. Three previous ones each who changed the world had their lives. Fundamentally altered by decision obama made as president. I didn't seek that out. His footprints is just that huge that he's quick to point out it wasn't always your busies my home station. Yes these e used to have me on with no way cared. I had to say. I have a lot of questions for the former presidents about policy. How he campaigned as a radical yet governed as a centrist but given that american democracy was just disrupted by a man who's very definition of manhood is the opposite of obama's it felt timely. Urgent even to drop down to a fundamental level. The story heat tells himself about what it means to be a man. We start by rewinding to a moment. Obama describes in his latest memoir a promised land when he had to balance his life as a young father with his enormous political ambitions. Start rolling you pitch offset all right. There is a moment in your life that fascinates me i think of it is the comeback kid moment. Because basically you're this guy you're forty you got obliterated in a house race i mean. I'm sorry i wanna remind people you lost sixty one percent to thirty percent nobody is telling you hey brock. I really think you have a future in national politics but you cannot let it go and you see. There is an opening not in the house. But a step up in the senate and give guy to take it. Why i will look as i as i write at a promised. Land i did get a significant beat down in that congressional race that i failed race was against a popular incumbent and after a crushing defeat. He made the brash. Decisions fly off to the democratic national convention. The who's who of his party but he didn't get credentials to actually get on the floor. So it was a waste of time implying. Back feeling woebegone and i considered actually leaving politics. Maybe i took a wrong turn here and this wasn't Destined to be but he had this nagging thought. I felt if people heard me and knew who i was. I could connect the problem in the congressional race. Was nobody knew who i was. But i did make promise to michelle that we were upper out. She agreed to primarily because she figured well maybe this is a way for him to finally get a sense. I will ask about that in a moment. I guess just want to drill a little bit deeper here and as i read it there are actually two explanations you offer in your book for the seminal moment one is you're seeking a stage big enough for your vision. You need that. And you're not finding local politics state politics or even the house congressional district. You need something that fits you now the other thing and listen i. My jaw dropped. When i saw you use word. You use this word megalomaniac to describe your explain that part of it not look i think that by definition when you offer yourself up as a political leader you're going out there and you're saying vote for me and i will represent you and be or voice. You have to have a certain ego. Bet probably tips beyond healthy into sometimes. A little delusional. And certainly. that's true when you run for president now. i was self aware enough to know that maybe I am delusional And so i've got a kind of test. This out in the world president obama recalls the famous sermon by dr martin luther king the drum major instinct where he describes the desire to feel important as the most fundamental human desire even more than sex talks about the go eye driven aspect of any kind of leadership. We all without you wanna to be. I you want to lead the parade. I'll have that drum major instant but the question is can you channel that so that it's i wanna be i in service java. I wanna be i in helping others. And that's a way of maybe squaring the circle so it doesn't become just about ego. You know. I think that if you don't have enough self-awareness going into politics led some of this as you feeding your own ambitions as michelle described it whatever holes you have because your father left ear. You're mixing it in hawaii. Or what have you. If you don't have enough sense of those motivations then you can probably become somewhat insufferable and you see that in sabau dish right That neediness to be center stage And if they don't reflect on it than it can consume them and make them less effective and sometimes dangerous one more question about that when you think about forty year old. You doing that thing. That no one's telling you to do and i can think about moments in my life where i've thought something ambitious and that reflects to turn and look and ask someone will do you think i can make it but it seems fundamentally you didn't have at that there is coming from inside of you. I wonder what is the lesson that you think is important to share with people today. Well it's not entirely true that no one was saying it wasn't possible gun jumped in a race partly because it was the wrong race wrong time hadn't thought it through ahead on the research when i decided to run for. Us senate actually. I had consulted pretty extensively with a lot of folks now. There were people who assumed if you couldn't win the lesser seat. You certainly can't win the bigger But there were others like Senate president email jones I had a bunch of downstate white. Legislators who had befriended partly from poker games. And i said you. Know what brad geyser thank. You could win some boats right here even though this is a largely white rural or suburban district So i actually had done my homework. And i guess the lesson to impart when i talked to younger people who are interested not just in public service but any kind of risk taking is. Are you taking a calculated risk. I would not have run for senate. If i thought i had no chance of winning. It wasn't just a lark. It's too hard. And you're asking too many people to commit to investing themselves and their resources into a campaign For you to just do something on a lark but everything important in balsam risk politics in the united states is not like politics in many countries around the world. Where if you take on the powers that be and you fail. You may be imprisoned or your family may be threatened or you may not have a livelihood is not that risky so at the end of the day. The worst that can happen. Is you get embarrassed. I figured I've been embarrassed enough. In the passenger by arco one more time you know how the story ends as he campaigns for the us. senate he finagle his way back to the democratic national convention. The hope of immigrants not just to attend but to speak on the main stage time over young naval lieutenant introduced himself to america to make his story our collective story of a kid with a funny name who believes that america has a place for him to come back home in illinois. You may not remember this part. The two men. He has to defeat i. It was allegations of spousal abuse the leading democrat and the republican in the senate race fending off sensational allegations tonight about his divorce to get mired in sex and marital scandals barack obama the ambitious man and the family man is in victorious and those calculated risks. He took them at home too. So now let's flip the focus. Okay because i want to talk about this decision in the context of family of a power couple. Okay you do not tell your wife michelle obama that you intend to run for the senate until you already have a plan in place for how you might be able to win. It's a secret secret mix. It sounds sneaker that it was. I think it's fair to say that until i got the sense that i could actually win. I wasn't even going to raise it whether because a If i'd had a bunch of conversations and everybody's been like no chance were not supported. You're mail to raise the money. Forget about it then. No reason to sleep on the couch any extra nights. Well i mean you're making a slight ch open. I'm actually wondering if it's serious like why wouldn't you from the get-go se han thinking about this. Was there a concern about strain well. Michelle doesn't like politics and she doesn't like it not because she thinks it's unimportant but because a we had small children and she had a very specific concern about the strains of me being away and her being a working mom which were entirely legitimate and be as as michelle wants describe it. She doesn't like mess in her life. So i i did not take that lightly and i always felt obliged to do my homework before i broached the question honey Thinking about maybe doing this. What do you think and by the way also had to be certain myself that this was even something that i was considering doing. Because because part of the part of the internal dialog that takes place for me at least was. Is this worth it. Because i miss my kids. I know i don't like it. You know being away from my wife that much. Let me ask you to follow ups from that. What you've just said one. use the word sneaky. I'm making it sound sneakier that it was right. Be real with you. When i read that part of your book i was like i'll be tamp. Like he really has to compartmentalize his ambitions to get things into place so he can pull that trigger. And so i understood the move. But i wanted to hear you talk about it because that is some real compartmentalization well you know what it is and i think that all of us go through this in our partnerships Michelle there were times where she would make career decisions or career changes. But you'll part of what we've tried to do is let each person figure some stuff out and have clarity about what they really want. What they really think. Ben bouncing off the other person's see how the other person acts what their views are One thing that that the saving grace i think of what the the dialogue the dance. That michelle i did around my political career was she always knew that she had be to- power at that at the end of the day if she absolutely said interesting if true for that. Because i didn't read it that way. Maybe i didn't read it correctly. It seems to me like she had veto power for the senate race. Well i think the way i presented. It was more damaging to myself. Because i was trying to give her perspective because i was sympathetic with her perspective but i think that she would say and because i said this explicitly multiple times and she knew in her heart that if at the end of the day this is not something that she could manager she thought would be damaging to our family or children. We would not do it. Michelle obama and her memoir becoming uses the term sacrifice to describe her role not veto power. At one point. He was away so much. He spent less than four full days at home with his young family in a six month stretch. She felt she could and she did compel her reluctant husband to couples counseling. But some of us will wonder did. She really thinks she could use that veto. Power there's one other word to use to go into a bit strain the strain and you've acknowledged the film match and she's written about this extensively and becoming the strain falls on her right. How did you think about it at the time. Father of two young children wife who is very accomplished than has their own ambitions. How did you think about. Did you think about the way the strain would fall on her. Yeah that's why i'm writing about. I made a this is not like. In retrospect this is in real time. My wife's not shy so when things were strained she let me know. There's a strain here brother. And this was not something that i only look back on and realize somehow we went through it at each juncture. We were having to wrestle with these issues. We have a society. That doesn't do a very good job in providing families with support systems for kids basic stuff like daycare and what is undoubtedly true. And and this. I think you can extrapolate from our experience. No matter how enlightened the guy thinks he is they're still a tilt in the direction of more burden falling on the woman. And do you feel like that's a biological given or is that dynamic playing out. I think i think it is in this I think it's embedded in our social structures and discrimination in expectation in the messages that were sending in the media and entertainment. And it's something that now as as a father of two daughters. i'm constantly warning them against and trying to ensure that They're not limited by. It's interesting you bring up your daughters Daughters may command. Think a lot about masculinity and The division of labor between men and women and where things fall. And i wondered you know. Would you want your daughters to find a partner like you in terms of that division. It well i. I think that you're seeing an evolution. That's more generational right. I mean michelle and my relationship is different from what her parents relationship was like he. She grew up in a wonderful family but there were times where her mom was. Just not us but was a stay at home mom and wasn't thinking about bad whether she liked it or not. She kinda yeah. That's a role i fall into. Michelle obviously progress from that but the society didn't always support. You know the the kinds of changes and family support structure are necessary. I think me and sasha and a lot of their friends just automatically operate on the assumption. That i'm not expecting to make more sacrifices than the guy or partner that i'm with Would just part of the reason why. I think You're saying this next generation. Mary later in life because they recognize that if they if they marry too early then it's natural to be more vulnerable to some of these social pressures and expectations. That fall on women. I want to highlight. This is some groundbreaking parenting advice even twenty twenty one. So many of our parents pressure us to get married before we become spinsters. put a ring on it obama. That is not the message. He gives to his daughters. Sasha and malia i encourage them to actively resist that and make sure that they know what they want before and don't just fall into something Because that's what society says is the easiest path dating life. I i try to pick and choose my spots. I it's fair to say Because if i were constantly giving dating advice they would definitely closed the door to their room. And i wouldn't see them after the break. Partly because i grew up without a father in the home i had to spend time thinking about. Or what does it mean to be a full grown man. Barack obama offers an alternative deficit of manhood. If you're new art of power and you like what you're hearing we got a bunch more. I'd recommend our episodes on mary trump. i don't believe family trumps everything else. Carol moseley braun. Nobody thought i had a chance in. Hell wing gabby pacheco here. Was you know the most powerful man in the world being disregarded because he disregarded us david collins who created the netflix's hit queer eye dog needed a voice to tell this story subscribe now and let us know what you think a couple of days. Before barack obama won the presidency hit a pretty bad gaffe. Pull up the pants up past. You know you walking by your mother your grandmother and he was doing town hall on mtv unaware so unless wrong he sent steered away from regulating male bodies but the inner life of himself and other men. He is leaning into that conversation. It became urgent for obama. In the trump era many newsrooms framed donald trump's victory as a battle between forgotten working class white america and be coastal elites but obama. He says it's more complicated than that. And masculinity is at the core of how we are to understand where america if today. It's a topic hebrew podcast which he did with rockstar. Bruce springsteen president obama this line of questioning. That i'm picking up with you fundamentally it's about masculinity and what it means to be a man right and and it seems like that's something that you are thinking about a lot and maybe i'm now drawing more from your conversations with bruce springsteen those are fun five guests and that was a major theme of it Yeah look. I think that partly. Because i grew up without a father in the home i had to spend time thinking about. What does it mean to be a full grown man. There are a lot of ideas of strength masculinity power that are defined by dominance and subordination sadly in our society in our world is often defined by violence or the capacity for violence enforce money. And what money can buy. I think that oftentimes The the narrow definitions that we provide our boys growing up about what it means to be strong powerful admired a man seep into how we think about public policy and how we organize our societies and often is a stunted view and that art of what we have to do is to expand our notions of manhood and power so that providing people healthcare carrying for children and being good stewards of the environment. That's what men do as opposed to just going to war and And make lots of money and tell people what to do. I asked president obama about a specific juncture where he really thought about his evolving sense of himself as a man. He talked about a moment from his presidency. Women in his cabinet and other senior advisors and one day. They came to him with a few complaints about their male colleagues. Talk over us bag nor what we say. If we provide a viewpoint or analysis solution to a problem nobody says anything and then ten minutes later. A guy repeats the exact same point and somebody. Everybody says that's brilliant adventure. You are nodding your heads because you've had this experience there's research on this. The way women or minority voices get sidelined in the workplace. It hurts people and it hurts the work the contribution the excluded group could have made it gets lost. Obama had not realized this was happening right in front of him. He had a three hour dinner. Talk it out with a senior women. Men are went to the men in the white house. I said listen. We have to change our behavior now partly because i was raised by a couple of very strong women i. I'm glad that i have actually didn't myself engage in some of these practices generally speaking i. I got a a decent grade in terms of including everyone in our these conversations. But i had to ask myself. To what degree was i Complicit in this atmosphere because i would a lot of male staff would get argumentative or raise our voices or or or create sort of a locker room atmosphere. That that just wasn't comfortable for a bunch of the women how men respond when you pull them aside and had the talk with them you know of them. Were a little defensive but generally they were politic and babe improved. I won't say they ain't got perfect. You take the example of My first chief of staff for maersk gago rahm emanuel as he and others pointed out he could be brusque rude he has. That reputation is those women That's how we operated. Generally that's how the men operated with each other so from their perspective this wasn't in any way gender directed but embedded in how we operated quote unquote was certain styles practices as ways of communicating. That didn't encourage the women to speed up when you have power capital p. You can design situations that silence or amplify voices. There's a time. I was in the room and saw president. Obama used that power it was at stanford university at a technology summit. He was on stage not getting interviewed. But doing the interviews. Start with you and tell us. I was hearing some of the great work on sells more about beside him a young female startup founder from egypt. Thank you so great to hear. I was dumbstruck. He is asking the questions. She young brown woman wearing a job is giving the answer. Software engineer have an engineering background obama. A master of optics was sending a message around the world other times. He's used that power behind closed doors. Faciliate muna's An advisor of yours. And i spoke with her in advance of speaking to you to get a sense of you know. What does she think. President obama has to teach people about how power works and how to use male privilege. Because she believes you do that. She shared this interesting story without name names. I i remember time when like one of us had a hot flash in front of him in the middle of a meeting. You know one of the women breaks out into a sweat. Face turns red fabulous. Something's happening and you know you could see like he's starting to look concern. And so anticipating. She's like hot flash. Don't mind me ignore the sweat pouring down my phases just hop lash knowing that it was like ok to say that and then everybody chuckled will die like i know there are men in my life would be absolutely mortified. It's hard to imagine any other president. Having a conversation with itself marry that i do well and we joked about it us being able to be comfortable enough with each other and respectful enough of each other bat. Were not all walking on eggshells but that we are able to get the job done. Stay focused put mission ahead of our egos but still just be mindful of the fact that it's different for women. It's different for people of color. In many of these corridors of power the conversations i have with women staff Senior staff was to both empathize. But then also say to them. L. doggone it my expectation as if a guy's talking too much And you're not being heard televised. Stop i just finish your sentence for you. Look right exactly. I haven't finished my point yet right. And these are the kinds of adjustments that i think we're all making in our society all the time. This is crazy timely. I mean just to be real about it and part of my fascination with you know barack and michelle obama and that relationship and the division of labor it has everything to do with what we as a society right now are dealing with look cogut look at so many in so many couples young couple younger generation than you and your wife and part of what part of the reason i'm familiar with that is because a lot of the folks who started off as junior on my campaign there now you know in their mid to late thirties and starting families on their own and If there were a number of marriages that occurred as a consequence of my campaign although nobody's aimed their kid barack yet which hurts by failing for funny. No one who knows you have people who don't know what you have done that so the we tend to think about politics and government as being all about tax policy and grand diplomacy and so forth but a lot of this has to do with your surfing a wave of all kinds of social trends and shifts in values of bed. hopefully go in the In the right direction. It's interesting you say that. Because you know i brought up a little bit ago. Your podcast with bruce springsteen which. I didn't hear it as a fun. Little project i thought it was a very ambitious effort. What i heard you doing is in the wake of the trump era. And you say this. You have a little theory. That part of trump's success had to do with selling a notion of manhood that many men and it's not safe to say this publicly sometimes but many men are hungry for this notion of. You're fired life gold plated right. I've i've always saw. Trump's presidency is a symptom of something bigger ride and and some of it is rooted in the changes in our racial demographics and insecurities around what's happening to the caste system. And who's on top and who's not in in in our society. Some of it is a response to be shifts in gender dynamics and power and you know people feel insecure when suddenly their status feels potentially at risk whether it's gration or changing economic circumstances or by president and a part of what my podcast with bruce springsteen was about was a big chunk of that has to do with men and how they define themselves and how they define their own status and seeing if we can redefine that in a more healthy way part of it was also trying to think about. What does it mean to be an american and redefining but what it means to be patriotic. What does it mean to be To take care deeply about this country what what's the better idea. Or the the essential idea of this great experiment that we're under which which oftentimes get skewed. Most things are deeply connected. I will say this i. I feel like my understanding of what it means to be. American has been deeply shaped by your first and the point. You make about the inordinate diversity of america being the feature of this country. It is the feature sunflower. it's where the world's converges. So i take your point in the many layers your operating. I'm not trying to affect. There's just one but for the sake of following a conversation through going back to manhood you know we've had not enough but we are having conversations about white privilege look at the new york times bestseller less than the books that are selling what people are hungrily consuming in their quiet rooms. We haven't. I don't believe talk so much of for lack of a better term about male privilege and i wonder what is it you are trying to learn or teach others about male privilege. Well you know. I think the obviously we've made progress in the metoo movement and in other places recognizing the most toxic the most egregious elements of bad behavior by men towards women. I think what we haven't spent as much time doing is thinking about. What are the positive values that we're trying to instill in our boys. So that when they grow up. They are respectful thoughtful partners with women whether it's in the family or the workplace. What what are those things that are not constructed based on the man being able to do what he wants and then the woman adjusting but rather how do we meet as equals and Work together to raise families. Bill businesses make the world a better place. We still define what boys can do michelle. I talked about the other day. We're very comfortable. I think at least within a lot of families insane girls. You can do anything you want. You can be early. You can be a tomboy. You can be ambitious. You can be more reserved. You can find what fits you. What feels right with boys. We still say sports money. Physical strength girls. You know those are things that you are going to be measured by the way. Michelle talk about its. It's which chimp has the most bananas broadening how we think about men and broadening broadening the definition so that we're telling our boys you being a good caregiver is part of what you should be as a man because it's part of what you should be as an adult showing. Compassion is not weakness. Listening is as important as talking a few male friends have told me earthy you talk about women's rights. Well we men can feel trapped to hear obama making the same point if following what manhood means. It doesn't only benefit women. It's first self empowerment for men to i interview leaders. There's something i've observed just about. Every single one has some seminal experience at age nineteen give or take. That is a clear window into the leader. They will become one day. President obama when writing about himself around that age describes a guy who's angry sometimes wants to swing split lip when someone insults him and a guy who's into books sometimes for the wrong reasons. He read this french philosopher. Michelle suco and i love your descriptions about nineteen year. Old barack obama Reading fukuda chase skirts. That was one little. I love that. Because i dated that guy to nineteen year old barack you have sort of beautifully self-effacing way of talking about him. I'm still curious though. Does he provide a window into the leader. You would become you know what. What's a consistent thread. And i can say the some confidence because i part of me sir. Transitioning from wild somewhat irresponsible teenager to maybe overly serious guy who ends up going to community organizing period around nineteen twenty twenty one. Where i'm making this change. I kept a lot of journal. I can read these journals looking back on them and you know some of them are are mortifying because it I just stayed myself so seriously. They're so angsty and in others. You know bad writing and bad poetry in there and I'm i'm i'm just navel-gazing but it gives me a sense of who i was and i do think there were a couple things that were consistent. And that did preview elements myself. That continue Touch i i think i was even then concerned with how to bring people together and appreciative of the fact that humanity in all its variety is full of beauty and cruelty and that the superficial differences that we put great stock in. Don't mean as much as what's underneath That there's a commonality to people. I always believe that out of necessity. Given that i'm the product of of A white woman in a black man at who grew up in asia and hawaii right. So i had no choice but to believe that and that i think was it was a lasting fame and i think there was also a basic bias towards kindness as a primary value of empathy and looking at other people and asking. Gosh how our they feel him. But what's going on Bad shape my politics and then finally having a certain level of self reflection b being comfortable with analyzing things and having strong points of view but allowing yourself some measure of doubt or being willing to question yourself so they don't get so cocky and confident that you don't listen to other people the guiding question. Our show art of power is so how does power work in the real world anyway. Right tell me something based on your experience. Is there something that you've learned on your extraordinary journey about. How power works that. You wish nineteen-year-old barack obama and you you. When i was an organizer we used to say this. Is sort of a standard organizing. Credo power is organized people and organiz. Money i it's not that complicated right if you've got either. People who are organized are a lot of money that's organized than it can influence and impact our world But but what i would say is more important than we i think give credit to is the power of stories because it stories that organized people and it's stories that organiz money the stories we tell about what's important the stories that we tell about who we are where we're from the stories we tell about What's right and what's wrong. You bat has enormous power and. I think that we don't spend enough time. Maybe in in our classrooms. Billy thinking about the stories we're communicating to. Our kids. were surprised when people don't vote or our democracy is weakened or for the. We see what happened in the capital in january. When what happened here was something we did not think could happen again and yet if you look at the stories we tell on. Tv and in movies and over the internet. We haven't been telling much of a story but this is a experiment in democracy and self-government requires everybody to participate effectively and be respectful of each other. Those aren't necessarily stories. We we we inculcate in our children. So i i. That's something that. I would emphasize to all the nineteen year old barracks and michelle's who running around. They're thinking that maybe at some point they want to change the world. My lessons from president. Barack obama one be self aware. And if you're not cultivate that muscle it will help you take risks that are calculated and be a little less insufferable in the primordial quest to matter to don't trap yourself in an identity that forces you to be unbalanced. Give yourself permission to interrogate and expand your definition of foundational words like manhood. Three stories are a tool and weapon to turn information into meaning to move people and money be conscious of the stories. You tell especially to yourself. 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Wendy Williams' Take on Why Ellen DeGeneres Is Really Leaving, Prince Harry Will "Break the Cycle" on How He Was Raised - Daily Pop 05/14/21

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Wendy Williams' Take on Why Ellen DeGeneres Is Really Leaving, Prince Harry Will "Break the Cycle" on How He Was Raised - Daily Pop 05/14/21

"Wendy williams slams ellen. I'm not sure that all the guests are happy. I guess i wasn't happy. And the real housewives of beverly hills go to war shady move dividing ladies. We're picking sides plus jaylo once again proves she is all of us breaking jennifer lopez in ben. Affleck are back together. Get shady in here today. Wendy williams is coming ellen and the real housewives are fighting over a bail. Happy friday i am on the struggle bus over daily pop really ought to ask is jody. Sweden are going to be up today. We got you got. You girl is hurting. I wish i missed a hangover. I don't. I almost called into work sick until i heard about this story. Wendy is doing what she does. Best throwing major shade and giving her unfiltered take on. Why ellen's really leaving I believe she's leaving because the workplace conditions nineteen years on. Tv doesn't change your life. It exposes you for the person that you really are. I'm not sure that all the guests are happy. I was a guest. I wasn't happy. I don't know whether she told her current staff though. She seems like the type of person that would come out on stage and announce to everybody and people are looking at the tv issue saying like what what what just happened the ease at which windy just spills t. She's just like i wasn't happy what we do. Those super cuts of wendy. Just telling it like it is is my favorite thing and you know what it is. It's because of her radio experience. She can just flow like no one else and by the way she is saying what everyone is thinking and does not hold back. I love watching her hurting. This is why we watch wendy. Williams could watch an hour of wendy's sitting in that purple chair by herself with no guests. Guess what. I heard ellen. Give the interview yesterday. When she said all my guests said they had a great time i was like. Oh here where the floodgates they're gonna open for people to come in safe things. And i think a lot of times when a celebrity has a lot of sway and a lot of power. Like ellen against in. Let's remember the dakota johnson interview. I mean that was one of the ones on ellen where she was like and that was one of the first times. I feel like somebody kinda like. Actually i didn't by you and you and she was like I think one of the first times ellen. Kinda gotta check win. All this stuff came out and washer dryer rossy. Her her wife went ahead and posted. The i stand with ellen thing no one re tweeted it and no one said oh i stand with. Why are you what is like that whole thing. But that's when. I thought oh snap this is going to cause a big ripple effect because she opened up those floodgates right. I do like what wendy said though about that. Being on tv for nineteen years only exposes. You i've always said when people get money and fame and success all of that stuff it doesn't. I don't think it inherently changes who you are. I think it makes you more of what you more of what you were going to be anyway. So if you were going to be kind and generous and all of those things. I think that that it comes more with more success in money and i think sometimes you know the more money and success that you have the more that you feel available to get away with certain behaviors. And you're like. Oh well. Now that i have all of this stuff maybe i can push push it a little bit more. Yeah let's let's talk frame because you've been in hollywood for a long time and there's a point that i feel like we missed yesterday. Okay when les moonves had his whole situation we were like. Cbs needs to take some accountability because they let that happen for so many years right. Why aren't we calling on the people who signed ellen's checks for saying you knew that this workplace toxic for the last ten fifteen years but yet you didn't take any accountability for it. There's a checks and balances everywhere kind of secret. I mean it was something that had been discussed was that there was some unhappiness on that sentiment. I you know. A lot of people hurt that. I was going to say what wendy also said there was. She was talking to some of her producers in this industry producers move from show to show as you from. la tight. i mean. I think we all know somebody that's either worked on the show or been on the show. And if we're gonna be frank i'm gonna ask you like based on people you know that have worked there or that have been on the show. Has their experience been super. It hasn't been the most positive. But i will say those people do what my friends in the music industry to do big stay somewhere for five years three years when they leave they go to another job for interview and they say oh my god. You survived three years with ellen. How did you survive five years of that person all the money in the world because if you can handle that you can handle everything else. I have a really weird suspicion. And i'm not taking up for ellen for this. And i'm not saying it's not her fault that workplace was not in tiptop shape but after nineteen years and working in such a toxic environment. You don't think there was one. Hr complaint to one of others. Well here's the thing. i do. Think that the way this works and you know this if you go to complain there are some deals that are done behind this planes for employees. That is a reality of our business. So let's just say. I went and said you know what this place is toxic here. My three complaints. I filed this with. Hr i don't wanna ruin my name in the business. Your reputation is all you have when you're in the entertainment industry so if i'm a young producer i'm twenty five years old twenty seven years old. This is a dream job for me. I'm complaining against one of the biggest names only would that. I want to keep that quiet. And i'm sure that people in charge of ellen and you're right it's not just everybody that was in charge without show. I'm sure there were some down and dirty behind the scenes deals that kept people quiet for years. And at this point we've had enough and sadly when you're young you keep quiet situation exactly. And that's sort of the unraveling of all of this of what's happening now. Is that those types of environments and people and places are no longer. It's not acceptable anymore. It's just because you can do this. Nobody's going to put up with it anymore. And i think i think you know. Unfortunately we're finding that out like nobody's going to tolerate this anymore. And i do think years ago if you went to. Hr like who's going to go against ellen going to go against her. Nobody did. But now i think people are like brady. Okay yeah someone who should've out. Hr complete very honest about how he was raised involves pain and suffering. Listen to what he just told. Dax shepard's armchair expert podcast is experienced some form of pain or suffering because of the pain and suffering that. Perhaps my father all my parents had suffered. I'm gonna make sure that. I break that cycle. Suddenly i started to piece it all together and go okay. So this is where he went to school. This is what happened. I know this bit about his life. I also know that's connected to his parents. So so that means that he's treating me the way he was treated. You have a lot to say. I do have a lot to say. Because here's the thing. So i'm half mexican half puerto rican and i think anybody that grows up in. That kind of house knows that there are behaviors that go down in that house behind closed. Doors that i would never wanna repeat with my own children. And as i'm about to give birth in a couple of months i think about that. Now that doesn't mean that my relationship with my mom is beyond repair or that. I hold hostility against her. You repeat the mistakes. You repeat what you see right as a parent if your parents treated you that way you tend to repeat it but i think what harry is doing. I think what a lot of people are doing or saying no. I've had a lot of therapy right. Acting weird generation of there are and like i can hear the therapist in his voice when he's talking about it and all he's saying is listen. I don't want to repeat this again. I don't think that means that him. In charles or forever broken. I think he holds a lot of hurt in his heart which i think any child that has grown up in what he grew up had like. I grew up on the north side of fort worth and i have a lot of hurt. You know what i mean. I can only imagine hurting like that on the global stage. So it's hard because i don't know if i go and talk about the way he did because we do keep things private in our home but at the same time. I think it's great. I applaud. I apply what he's doing. I applaud him. Because i do think because of that silence and because of that years and years i mean hundreds of years like you. Don't talk about the world around that's it nothing comes out and then comes out but my god like at some point. Somebody has to talk about what's going on and it's not probably really healthy for all of them you know and i do. I think that it's important that harry's out and being like look this is what's really going on like. Everyone loves the royals and everyone loves all this some really kind of hard dark stuff in pick big picture kind of bitch to look at the big picture and i think if my relationship was strained with anybody would i go out and tell the truth even if it was my truth even if people could relate to it even if something that every american goes through if i'm having an issue with my mother at the time i'm not going to add fuel to the fire because i know what the press is to do optic girl you know what i mean. Don't you think there's like a little bit of healing for him in this release. It's for yes. But harry has to defend himself. He can't defend the royal family anymore. Here shows and himself his wife and his child and his his next little girl. I think there's healing him releasing. I mean that's why i put winter releasing something like this. You can turn to your mother and say by the way i said that and it was cathartic for me and it was this moment and i hope that you accepted. He's not having that conversation with his father because they are not talking. And when everybody's looking to point the finger at somebody you already know prince charles. I don't want family drama on a global stage. I you couldn't pay me to be a royal. Just timing is wrong because everyone is watching. Everybody's watching everyone's looking for cracks had. He said this three years later when they were fine. And they were all hunky dory. I would see great. I just think the timing was bad. Well i also think there's a big i mean. There's a big reckoning happening with the royal family. I love harry. Now he's on the podcast with dax. Shepard like who would have thought if you told us ten years ago. Harry's is going to sit down on armchair expert podcast the dax shepard. You'd have been like god. Ginger speaking out. And we don't blame her plus kristen cavaliers sharing her secret to co-parenting but is heard vice. Easier said than done discuss with your parents embassy dr in info i am the doubt you just must be in and she is back in ready to reclaim her throne as the queen of hip hop nicki menaj broken internet. Last night again with nearly a million views on i. g. life s. She released her two thousand nine. Mix tape. Beam me up scotty. It's streaming services for the first time with a new track like seeing green with drake. Little wayne you guys are you bar are you into the second coming of mismanage. I love nikki. Montage like she. She just writes her own rules. She gives no apps and in a world that is not been kind to female rappers. She has created a space that is wholly hers on her own terms amongst all these men and just brakes record after record after record like this woman is incredible. And she makes crocs look good So i was like. Yeah literally i i was like. Oh maybe after the baby like i'll get some crock some pillows and some diamonds and like this. Who makes crocs look sexy. I sit around like that just took. What does it does it. 'cause it's like an old throw pillow hair's not now it doesn't look like one hundred percent i will say nicki menaj is who she is because she is about the craft i and about her fans second this woman releases music to make those people happy. I've seen her on many occasions and she will talk to everybody my love my this. Oh my god. I saw you on instagram. Thank you for that shot. Apo la this woman. You're right ten years in the game. No one has done it like her. And i cannot wait to see what she has. Upbringing smart business. My god credibly and she gives zero. Okay what else. who's excited right now. Jennifer lawrence. She is hearing some breaking news. Sort of in today's papa love and proving. She is just like us now. Listen to the exact moment she heard about j. Lo and ben affleck while she was on the bitch. Bible podcast breaking breaking news jennifer lopez in ben. Affleck are back together there. They are on vacation with each other right now. Clicking lincoln back first of all the girls were like. Is this a reputable news source bible. It was e- rea- reputable okay. Check your 'cause we broke the story. Is there another celeb- couple. That would make you react this way. Because i have one that in my head that would make me probably pass out. Oh that's a great question. Jennifer aniston brad. I mean if brad and jennifer got back together. I think the world every magazine steve dunn. He can't even process. Be careful little hungover into st street. Now everything has slipped on. Everything is flipped on its head. That would be incredible you guys. Kristen cavalieri sharing her secrets to co-parenting jay cutler. She tells mr warburton magazine that the key is not to say anything bad about your ex in front of your kids. No matter how mad you are could you do this. I do do this. I mean i have two daughters. And i have two axes that we have to deal with and i will say. Luckily we're actually in a really good place right now. We've we communicate a lot better. It takes a time. Of course you get mad at the other stuff happens. And i'm always like i need to make sure and not put any of my stuff on and that's just not even with their dads with anyone like i need to not put my stuff in my emotions on them and i tell them all your relationship with your dad is entirely separate from you. Don't ever have to feel like you're being disloyal or any you know and i think it's really important. Tell kids that because they do feel like in divorced homes. If i really loved one parent and then i really love going to the other like am i being just loyal do i need to pick sides. Geneva it's hard but you said we're a good place right now. Was that always the case when you were in a bad place. Did you ever catch yourself doing it. And that's how you got to the point where you would never do it again. I would say i actually was. I tried to be really really good about it. Because i know how absolutely toxic it is And i know. I'm sometimes it doesn't always go both ways but i know like i try and be the one that's not going to put that on my kid because it's not fair you know my mom. Never say anything. Bad about my dad in front of us. Until i was about twenty one years old. Then let y'all know knew what i've been through but it's so interesting because i feel feel like i personally would. Not you know. Pick my kids thing that they're doing anything bad about going to their dad's house. Because i would want to know it splits michelle there this morning. I want to hear kids also taught me no. it's not toxic. It's real a real bitch. I don't do that. But i have had ex's do that to me. I love you. Like what am i wanna know. I wanna know. I wanna know i wanna know i need to know how well oh gosh i don't listen i. I would hope that. I can be bigger than that moment. Like what you said. But i do think it's really hard. And i think it also depends. I mean divorces are affected by so many things. I think if there's money involved there's fidelity involved if you part amicably then. I think it's a lot easier but you have to remember. These are two human beings in a relationship so yes i would try not to put my children in the middle but like the where people divorce how i grew up like people are talking all my respect it so much but like that is just not good. I'll be divorced. How when i grow up. I feel bad for my ex-husband. What would you do. Is someone sit there bill. At a restaurant. This just happened to cow richards. It's ignited a housewife. You'd that is next. Yeah ooh that third. Margarita is not sitting. Well every you said six during the commercial break back on the commercial is just check. Kyle richards and i mean that literally so the to happened to be at the same same restaurant which is this. Tiny cow was out with one of the bravo producers and apparently lisa thought. They should pay her. Tab weren't is lisa. Sent them her bill which they decided not to pay after not speaking to a friend for two years. Was this the right way to approach it. I mean it's definitely a power move. You know what i mean. I definitely done this in the past two exit to an ex boyfriend. I definitely did. I'm not a psycho. I was i-mode retribution. For that relationship in perpetuity and i was at dinner at a place that we used to go to and he was there with the much younger group of girls that he shouldn't have been within the first place. I was on a second date. And i said to my date. Oh we'll just send him the bill. It wasn't a good date anyway and so would never do the things that this one did to me and honestly like yeah why not. It was a power move. I sent the check by the way he paid it. So whatever. it's fine your date. Feel about that though. Tape probably didn't feel great about it anyway. And the best. Is that my ex text the next and said a see. You're still a cheap date and be wasn't that good of day was it and then i hate you rate. I dunno you know. It's so funny. Lisa vanderpump has a very cunning and funny personality. And i think her sense of humor is for me. It would have been even funnier and better if she would've walked up after and just said hey wishful thinking right and had a drink with her and tried to men. You know the bridge that have burned between the two of them but i think after two years of not talking and returning your your former friends phone calls. That's kind of a little bit below the belt and it actually could have worked and what you guys back together. But why didn't just pick up the tab first of all. Don't send me your bill exit you since you a gift and said you know. Let's make this right. Don't your bill as the first thing i did that. Part of me also see okay. Like i said i've got all the time in the world to be. Petty genus is an art. I don't have to practice it. But i admire it and like i look at it. I'm like oh but who has the power than if you pay the bill. Just like yes. That's what i'm saying. Pay say nothing order. Just how much. I don't hold on a picture of the chat. Yes that's it. They're part of the story. Then you tell me. Tell me if you still believe it. So allegedly got worse. Instagram user posted. This cast photo and claims. A fan asked lisa to sign on it on her way out. The fan says that lisa did but she also drew all over the faces of her former cast members. Now we reached out to confirm but have yet to hear back. The ladies had quite a reaction to this online. Do you still feel that same way. I mean look as an adult woman. I think at times you gotta be like. I really need to start this and sometimes but sometimes you do and so i. I feel like in this case. Though i am actually. I'm with you in that. I'm a person. I would much rather petty but then i'll be like you know what i agree with you and yes it's fun sometimes. Sometimes it's fun. I just never want people to know that. I'm pressed about something about it. I still would want to pay the bills. Like i'm reading a read on comments by celebs. What the other ladies wrote in response to this photo lisa x. out like teddy's face you put a mustache on kyle and i think first of all you. What you said is accurate. Lisa's british. she's got a very dry sense of humor and this is who she is. I've personally i found it funny. And i'm like why are you also serious. Like just make a joke of it. Like i feel like everyone in outlays so soft like that that is i feel like they're overly sensitive itself. It's funny lisa. Vanderpump is funny. I was an deal the way that know he's involved in this. I'm not even gonna try to like have an understanding at the level that you have a. But i'm saying lisa's funny. She's a brit she goes in for it. Don't be so sensitive y'all it was a joke. I should've walked up and said goodbye. I would've been okay. Cameras have been rolling. That would have been amazing. Good off to this story lady gaga is joining friends. Everything we know about the shows. Big reunion plus ginny. Garth says she never watched an episode of nine hundred and i'm going to go puking the bathroom with more daily. You're puking in me back. Let's get right into today's hollywood minute. We have your first look at the friends reunion. Hbo max just released this video of the cast walking together with a slow version of the iconic theme song. The special air may twenty seven. Now few details have been released. But we do know. Guest stars will include reese witherspoon lady gaga and justin bieber. ronnie ortiz. magro is taking a step back from jersey shore family vacation to focus on his mental health. Ronnie wrote on instagram. It's a mutual agreement with the show and wants to get healthy so he can be the best man and father to his daughter. His decision comes after the city attorney's office that it won't seek charges against him and his domestic violence case katie. Holmes is hot and heavy romance or at least. That's how it looked to. Us is over with emilio vitolo junior a rep for katie told us weekly. She and the restaurant tour have quote parted ways amicably but remained friends. It was back in september. They were forced photograph kissing in manhattan. And that's today's hollywood minute. And i did it another sixty. Okay harry potter fans are in luck. Ease every harry potter movie ever. Marathon starts today at three pm and to get your height. Justin put together a little reminder of why we love this franchise owes so much a wizard harry. It's been almost twenty years since harry potter hit the big screen and taught us. That's niches do a lot more than get stitches. If you're one of the millions who lined up to see it at midnight. I had to break it to you. But you're officially old. See this kid. He went from boy to harry potter. The man who is giving us life. The kids relate millennial beatles as one. Can we talk about that. Supporting cast robert. Pattinson thomson dame maggie smith. Alan rickman can keep on. Going for days the franchise was like lawn. Offer fried conic british actors. Everybody dropped paycheck. new these grandmother's family films. Either harry potter the top question. How many pairs of spectacles takes a finisher franchise can kim john. Williams scored anything. That isn't thanks for twenty years of memories and movie marathons harry potter. We'd love to party with you at hogwarts but we'll go ahead and assume our acceptance letters got lost. You both shut up. Because you've never seen harry potter before and i'm literally not all of them. I didn't even read the book. I am outta here. You guys ginny. Garth is dropping a shocking nine. Oh two one confession. She says she's never watched the show then made her a star and a million year until. Now here's what ginny told us weekly. I have never watched the show back from the beginning. Never watched a full episode. Never sat there and really committed to watching it so now watching a back were watching it from a fan perspective. And i'm sucked in. I'm all in. I love the show. I think it's great. I can't believe i was on it. It doesn't even look like me. I don't even know that person. But i'm definitely a fan as a new year new. We're going to do you watch yourself back. Did you back in the cut. No you didn't do. I never watched full house. I never watched house. Wow and i think part of it too like when year but see now i can watch it and appreciate it in a different way. When i was young i was like oh my god. I'm so in there like it felt. I felt silly. I felt self conscious. I fell now. I'm like i don't care you know you grow out of that. And now i think the shows larry if it's funny. I still don't really watch it. Though but one fuller came about. I would i. Wouldn't we would have a preview before. And i'd watch a few episodes and i always like to see dailies or whatever or like how i'm doing but i hate watching myself. I don't like it. But i know as an actor like there's times i need to but as a kid on full house i was like i'm just having fun out of it but fans totally know this show better than i am. Remember that time on the show the the disc jesse did told me i was gay right. Well we walker process screen. Six seven years old. And i was never the same again. He has kind of power really changed. Everything i knew about myself these same weight. I can't watch myself back. I don't like my voice right. I don't like to hear myself for some reason. Nobody does because actually sound different in your own head like it reverberates jeter like my voice either and the only reason. I know that. I do things on this shows because tom tells me tom will literally tell me like literally the note. I'll get like from tom right after i walk out. That's the only way what doing the show. Yeah how about you. I don't like watching back because there's nothing that you can do about it like we work in a live format right so there is nothing that i can do to go back and change like how i was sitting what i said that i touch my hair too much. So there's no point in watching it back it's live it's over and i think with the movie the a little different like as an actress right. Maybe you could shoot something but for us. I'm like no. It's one and i'm out of here. Forget the show. Let's move onto monday. I'm going to take kind way you got it. And that's how i looked at it. I think and i. I still kind of you. I'm like it's like. I gave it my best. I did this. I did all these things like. I got the notes. I took him in and now i release it to the you know what now. That's it it's out there. It's done like you're it's i'm only going to announce it with something that's out there. I love it well. I'm not a million year year. we're coming up. Did ready for national chocolate chip day. We are celebrating with a delicious and healthy new recipe. And you can all make it home to me. He's welcome back to daly. Pop chef and author sadie redon scheme. We're so excited because tomorrow is national chocolate chip day and say he has a healthy and delicious recipe to share with us. Everyone in the studio is excited about this recipe to work before we get started. You make sure you pull out your phones and scan the qr code. It is right at the bottom of your screen. You'll get the recipes so that you can make this at home with us or this begin. Okay what are we making today or making tahini chocolates at blonde east for my new book whole girl so instead of like flour and sugar. It's made with tahini which is ground sesame seeds. Okay now for grain free. I am a purist when it comes to my baked goods with butter. I cook with vanilla with eggs. So whenever i hear all of these ingredients substitutes like two we i know. How did you come up with this recipe. Well so each chapter and whole girl helps us embrace a different mood and for the chapter. Be wild. I wanted to make a recipe. That sort of help us get outside of our comfort zone bake with an unconventional ingredients. I thought why not a heaney grain. Free gluten free and makes really fudgy bodies. So what are we start with. Start cracking one ag into mixing ball. And we're just going to whisk that up and so we are using regular for this but they're gluten. Free gregory burger. You'll also have a sugar free option. He's too if you want to do. Yes if you want to make it sugar free. Just use monk fruit t ask so now. We're gonna add an all the other ingredients. We're going to add a cup of creamy tahini. I could see how this could make up for a really good. Blondie adds up everything else and dump everything there. That's some coconut sugar coconut show. This is one of our sweeteners. also sweetening with a little bit of maple zero three order actually leave the flaky sea salt for loss by odd extra. We're adding some baking soda. Seesaw and it's just say this is such a simple recipe great for kids. 'cause it's like an easy way to get them involved in the food and then i have to say we have to add our hero ingredient which are chocolates prefer dark chocolate milk chocolate semi sweet chocolate jolly stark chocolate chips and try to buy fair trade. It's you can. But i love dark chocolate low sugar. It's for your body and it just tastes so delicious. Okay now once. I've got this all mixed up. This is a little looser than my normal kind of the recipe. That normal i wanted to show. This is like a little bit looser than my usual. Yes brownies so when you're doing this it's okay that it's a little bit less liquidity. There's no flour once you've got just like just enough mixed over mix say okay. Let's get until it's all combined and then you're gonna pour it into a parchment lines eight by inch baking dish with parchment just so it doesn't stick and it just makes the cleanup's super duper easy. Okay so in we go in we go and this is just. I think it's awesome to cook with kids when they're young because it starts off that relationship with food positive at a young age so this is a super great way to do that. I wanna look it. Yeah we're just going to sort of smooth it out into the pan and okay. This might be a really dumb question for people who never made a blonde before. You explain the difference between a blonde at brownie. Yes so blonde is like a brownie. But it doesn't have cocoa powder still. Has those delicious chocolate chips. And that tax smith but no cocoa powder so it's just a different labor profile. There i feel like it's there so it's a really great tree and it's amazing. These are really good for you. Because they're high protein high fat and low sugar so they're gonna leave. You feeling like energetic and satisfied. I've done that with chickpeas before i. You don t. Yeah so once we have this end. What do we do with three fifty for about sixteen to twenty minutes and i like to undertake a little bit so that they're like on the inside after you bake them you're going to grab your flaky sea salt lake you see so good sprinkle it. I love her. I have a question. Why is it that sea salt makes every sweet so much better. I know i know the game. I think it's mixing salt is always like chocolate with the see-saw it's so good combination sweet and savory always a plus exactly speaking of i'm gonna just shove this. Please tell me how you like it. I love my ron and it doesn't taste like paleo. were also doesn't taste like tahini. Nah it's subtle other skeptical when it comes to healthy baked goods zany. You have made me convert amazing. You guys got to check out. Book is called a whole girl. Live vibrantly love your entire self and make friends with food. I love that motto. Thanks to opting that translates blondie. You so much for being here today and you'll do not go anywhere because up next. Tom cruise will be right here. Yes he's helping us. Put our top gun knowledge to the test when we come back clear the cap i know them. I'll save a blonde got the right this week. In march thirty five six gun came out and the movie is back in theaters for a limited run. Like the didn't you got a little topgun fact. Our bitching is all right. First question after the iconic line aren't feel the need the need for speed. Maverick and goose. High five is this fact or fiction. Flip your paddles and let me know. Oh we have one fact one fiction. Let's see the answer. Feel the need. I i have to say this i maybe have watched topgun once so that was just a complete random by the way it was eighties. You think they patted each other amass. I mean i would right. That was after the hi fi liliana. You have a chance to come back. Guth play the piano and saying during the movie but fact or fiction did he sing. Elvis presley's all shook up how things he shook it was not. Don't is there an option for. I have no idea like how. I haven't seen this movie since. Nineteen eighty nine both goldman fiction. Let's see they answer this crazy love. Yes fiction you is goosing great balls of fire by jerry. Lee lewis okay. I didn't know it. I just guessed. Iconic song from the movie was dangerous zone by the great can lodge us is lock into lodgings loggins loggins fiction. The chorus is molly. Ed too dangerous though. But that's not the courts. No that's not the court no. It doesn't say way to the uh my way. I say highway too right. No one's tiring jealous played anthony edwards wife in top gun. I miss the. What was the name. kelly. Mcgillis played anthony edwards. His wife in top gun. You go in fact you're going fiction. Here's the answer was it. Was meg ryan. Because i didn't even know she was in the movie. Line is iconic. I think. I've said that line never knew exactly here. You go everybody am i. The only one hung over here because it seems like you are to now discussing next of you guys. How one great grandmother is never too old to make a dreams come true and we are here for it. I love it back so little can. Do you want to point that out guys. Do not do not do not do this. We can't let you start your weekend without some feel good friday stories today. Our sponsor unilever is holding their second annual day of service this year. They're focused on helping. Communities impacted by covid nineteen including women families and black and hispanic communities unilever employees will be volunteering and they'll be providing millions of products and supplies to groups like feeding america one of my favorites check out every day. You does good dot com to see how you can get involved now. We all know ain't nothing. But a number and vivian cunningham proved that once again by graduating from stanford university in alabama at the age of seventy eight years old. Check out this amazing moment. Samford university is proud to present it. Seventy eight years young graduated. Vivian rosetta cunningham. She was like put some respect. It again mazing. I always say like if you wanna do something. You're going to keep getting older anyway. You might as well do it now. Oh my gosh amazing congratulations you. It's also official that guerrillas love babies. Check out this video of kiki the gorilla gazing at emelina austin's newborn son at the franklin zoo in boston. Now at one point. This is a curious thing i've ever heard. Kiki even brought her one month old son to glass to bond with the baby. She wanted to have the lead a handle this. How to hormonal for this. I can't i'm trying. Oh that's pretty amazing. I claiming animals. Okay you ready for this too and this little flag. Football star is the only girl on her team but that didn't stop her from showing up and showing out look at her phone. Can't stop. I know i hate to be shady but victor could learn or early next week. You guys were talking to emma stone. Amy poehler pink gabrielle union. You don't wanna miss this. We'll see you on monday. That was really cute. I want my daughter. That's that's of course as it.

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"Download gun deleo for free today and start saving money get alerts to hot deals by walking into a gun store. Plus offers new products and videos sent straight to your smartphone. Get your gear for less gun. Deleo dot com and gun. Talk has returned back. I don't know something like that. I'm tom gresham number. Eight six six talk gun. Probably if you've been here any length of time you know. We have a good time around here. We have some fun so you have a story. Tell by all means share it. That's what we do here again. The number is eight six six. Talk gun or tom talk guy. I was mentioning the politics. The big elections most of 'em over but we have two major elections that are erased. They're still going on to runoff elections for the us senate. What is at stake is everything. Actually it's is chuck schumer going to run. The senate are joe biden and campbell harris going to run the tables with their gun bans and gun control if they have control the senate they can if the republicans win those two races than there is a way to stop them at also all about judges and justices and people are saying but i don't live in georgia okay. I get that but that doesn't mean deter not able to do something about it. There's a website called wind ridge. W i e it's for the republicans how to donate money and talking about it on twitter aung parlor at gun talk about those places in encouraging people to go throw some money and people are doing it. I mean if it's the cost of box of ammo has cost of a gun wherever whatever you can afford i went over there and ponied up what i thought was pretty good amount and then looked at it and went in. Yeah this is that important. And i just doubled. It sucked it up and it w i n r e d dot com win red dot com or comes up. It'll have a place where you can donate to those races and george. Obviously if you are in georgia you need to be registered to vote. You can still register if you have friends in georgia people you know need to be calling them. Yes you can make a pill yourself to call them and bug them and make sure that they are registered. Make sure they are going to vote vote. Early vote in person. Do whatever you have to do okay. Eight six six talk gun is our number here. Dave has called in and he has been patient waiting. Appreciate that new mexico. Welcome sir what's on your mind. Thank you very much on. I a Ranger bird on the twenty two teams seattle or listen to the range support right the twenty two pm. It is a very nice. Little pistol Was reasonably priced ended up buying from la or the top inversion that they carry which he's here's model laser light. Well what model pistol not. Not sure exactly where the honey. Twenty three tweet two caliber. so what. what else ireland. I'm sorry rock island talking. Okay thank you. Yeah and she loves it chicken slash back. No problem doesn't have any kick released. Minimal kick fivefold a little eight indonesian girl that Sixty something years old and she loves it. Okay good deal. So but how are you doing in terms of trying to find ammo for it. Now when i purchased the thing i went in. I bought a house rounds. Oh smart guy way to go. Yeah i've been like like one of your previous callers and saying. Why are people buying weapons when they don't have any animal. I've been collecting ammo. Synced mid-nineties when that turkish Eighty dollars available right forty dollars for fourteen hundred round box eight all all right so you called you on the after show last week we were talking about a situation where he hit some kids shooting at you. You were down on the border there. If i remember is it correct close. Yes okay so and the question i was asking was in. No did you back why not. And we didn't have time. I didn't have you on so fill in the blanks. Kind of bring us up to speed with what happened and what your thought process was okay. Real good job. My little phone is surrounded on three sides by residential neighborhoods granted. They are fairly spread apart in the nearest neighbor is probably about three hundred yards away. My interest and concern was as a responsible adult and gone on her I've had to be thinking about what's beyond my target. Because if i'm shooting either regular ball or even the hall apply that round is going to go through target and continue on and the last thing i need is to be responsible for dance to. Somebody's property worst-case scenario hurt. Somebody's injury or death. yep yep how. How far away were these folks who are shooting at you. Okay and i remember you said is y- the way you described as almost like you weren't like terribly concerned. If almost felt like they were just kind of her harassing fire. Pretty much when you're walking around with a twenty two revolver Not expecting something that one hundred yards or more out. Most of the kids have no concept. Chances are they're hopped up on something illegal and they're like oh there's my target pop up and you know there's a hail of fire that goes around me and i'm like okay Let's see if i actually shoot at that person. Who might i hit behind him right. Get that main concern. That's not responsible for that. And i think not enough people give that thought beforehand of okay. Just because i'm being attacked doesn't mean i can't shoot or that i should shoot. I need you know the four rules. A gun safe. You still apply you got no. You're targeting you gotta know what's behind it even in the middle of a gun fight because as you said you're responsible for your bullets do even if it is unintended even if it goes over there and somebody else you are still responsible for it. Exactly when i've act- i've actually had to pull off us. Sixty rounds of argest scare people away. But all i really am you put holes in manure piles and piles you can get up and run there you go. It's not do well. Look i appreciate you filling in on that and fill in the blanks for those who don't Haven't heard heard the after. Show shame on you. The after show is cool. It's fun and we do a lot of interesting things. We've got jim michelle there. And it's you you gotta do that. Basically it is a podcast addition to this show we take the regular radio show and then we make it a podcast and then we add to f for sure on which is not over the air and it's kinda fun and different has a different vibe to it so if you ever miss the show you want to be able to get the podcast but also you just go ahead and subscribe to the gun. Talk podcast wherever you get your podcast all right quick. Break your eight. Six six talk gun. We'll get you in here. I'm tom gresham. be right. 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Cci spear they also the ones who just bought the remington ammunition factory in brand vista outdoors reports and ammunition backlog of a billion dollars the ceo. Chris met says we currently have over a year's worth of orders ammunition in excess an excess of a billion dollars for those who say well. Gee they're just not making ammo. Trust me when i tell you that they would love to be able to ship. Another billion dollars of ab nisshin. That would do well for the bottom line for these companies. They're making every round of ammunition they can make ryan twenty four seven. What they're not going to do. I can just tell you this because people will sometimes say you know they just need to expand to more more plants no because they know from experience history it this too shall end and when it ends. It goes really fast. The panic buying the hoarding the. Somebody's what do say. He had a hundred and fifty thousand rounds or something of nine millimeter and trying to find more and more all the time. And i'm not sure what causes this to stop but it will and it may be that pay. We get a vaccine for kobe. Nineteen and the political settles down and when it stops i mean it's like the brakes at thrown out. You don't want to be in the of building a fifty one hundred million dollar plant. That will come on line three or four years and all of a sudden demand is down its price war again on ammo. So they're not going to build more factories. They're gonna make what they can make. I'm gonna say you should've bought ammo. I have been saying for ten years. Biam obama obama obama obama. It's cheap it's available biam. Oh by extra ammo by an extra box a week by an extra box among by whatever you can buy commit five. Ultra ten dollars a fifty dollars. Whatever you buy it. I feel like jim cramer screaming. Bye-bye by those who did are sitting pretty those who didn't are going. What happened is somebody's wakes up and goes what happened. I don't know steve. Steven is in lebanon oregon on four stephen. Thank you for your call. You got a suggestion for the fires industry. Yes sir taking my call I really appreciate all of the great information you give about firearms in the second amendment. You do great job. Thank you but yeah so i you know. I think some one thing that i've listened to you over the over the years always mentioned about how the gun banners They control language. You can control language that controls the way people think about without about so You know this whole concern about assault weapons. Well you know that doesn't exist but if you throw award assault in front of something sounds scary but I would suggest that maybe as like a firearm industry or gun owners. In general we can help. Educate the people by telling them that. These are for defense for self-defence defending your own life or defending our nation from tyranny. And so i don't own. I personally don't own any assault rifles. I own defensively bible. Okay i mean. I i do not disagree with what you're saying. I'm guessing you're fairly young. How old are you stephen on thirty. Okay that's pretty young to me four. I've been fighting this fight for fifty years in for most of that. I've been fighting the fight about language whether there was the gun banners calling revolvers saturday night specials are accurate rifles to call them. Sniper rifles are whatever and of course the term assault weapon was created by a gun banner and he said look people don't know the difference between semiotics and we can create this term. And then we'll go with. This bothers me is that you don't seem to be aware of the extensive efforts. A people in the firearms industry chains the language. The have you ever heard the term modern sporting rifle okay. Well that is the industry's defined fire ministries to try to change the language and never use the term assault weapon because there's no such thing as a political term assault rifle. There is such things assault rifle fire. It's a machine gun. Submachine gun or machine gun so it has to a machine gun to be called on salt rifle. What that means is air fifteen or not assault rifles and they certainly not assault weapons in your right here in lies the problem though there are still some of our folks who used the term assault weapon which is dumb because it plays into the hands begun banners because of what they wanna do is use that term to frightened people And the general public. And i guarantee you. This is actually would be a funnel experiment for you to do talk to people who may be you know who are not really into guns that much and just ask them this. This really kind of interesting thing to do. And i said what an assault weapon and see how many times they come back with the term machine gun or automatic not knowing that instrument automatic and semi auto. And of course. That was the whole idea. That was the design of changing the language. The gun banner said hey. We could frighten the public into agreeing to ban these semi automatic. Guns buy carnival assault weapons and then he had places. I appreciate the call. I gotta talk about this though. Then you have places like cnn. I caught them making up terms. And actually making up quotes. Cnn saying that. Atf said that assault weapons factor in highly in murders according to an gave the guy's name at the fbi. And i remember hearing that and going. No that's not right. Factually and now the fbi data doesn't say that so. I actually tracked the guy down who they quoted. And i found him. It took me a couple of months to get the right guy and talk to him on the phone. He said well not only. Did i not say that he said i have never talked to anybody at cnn. They've ever talked to me about this. They just found the gun guy there and made up a quote for him and said that this guy says that so called assault weapons factor in highly and he said well. That's not only have talked to me. I wouldn't have said that because it is simply untrue. And then you had. John zarrella still works for. Cnn should have been filed a spot. Faking the footage showing two different rifles. Both of shooting two to three ammo one of them. Had the dreaded bayonet lug on it one did not making one of them that dreaded assault weapon cording to the clinton gun ban and they fired them into cinderblocks to show how much more deadly and powerful the assault weapon was when they shot their cinderblock with the assault weapon using two three it. Just shoot it up. And then when they shot the cinderblock with the two three rifle that did not have these evil things like a pistol grip. And a bayonet lug the cinderblock was unscathed. It was simply not damaged at all in the cnn video. That john's rela remember the name. John zarrella you still seem on there. He's out of florida completely faked. It completely made it up hold allies and yet the public doesn't know that you know that when you look and go well that's it didn't make any sense given shooting. Same bullet at the same velocity hits the same target. It's going to do the same amount of damage and they're telling me no assault weapon. Features like pistol grips and bayonet lugs. Make them much more powerful. It would be getty out of except that it's actually effective. So what do we do about it when we come back to the now. What if the media is ninety five percent of the tank for gun control or gun band or gun confiscation and they are. They're going to control the language. They're going to take talking points from the gun ban lobby. So what do you do you get involved. You cannot just shrug your shoulders and say that's the way it is. We don't do that. We are the gun. Talk true squad. We speak truth everywhere. We back it up with facts. We go to gunfights dot. I n f o and we get our data and we get graphs that we can post online but mostly you know what we do. We get involved in the fight and way too many gun owners honors. Shooter's gun owner. Sit on their big. Why duff's and don't do anything we don't join we don't get together. We don't have clubs who don't have groups because we don't actually seek validation or affirmation of our ideas because we're pretty solid ideas whereas the other side likes to get together and try to force people to change their lives. Well you know. What if we don't get together if we don't have clubs and groups and organizations state gun rights groups and if we're not showing up showing up showing up not sitting there complaining showing up physically showing up we lose we lose of say it again. We lose if we don't show up if we don't write checks. Yes i am saying. You need to write a check or make a credit card charge. Go to win. W. i n. r. e. d. win red dot com right now. We have got to win these two senatorial runoff races georgia. We'll talk about that when we come back on the backside a lot of things going on also should eighteen. Nineteen twenty year olds. Be able to buy handguns. I say yes. Let's talk about welcome back to gun talk. I'm tom gresham. The number is eight. six six. Talk governor tom. Talk something on your mind. You wanna talk about guns or a gun or ammo or maybe think about buying your first gun. A lot of people buying their first gun. Now people are nervous. They're concerned unsettling time they're watching the riots or watching the defined. The police there. Don't what's going to happen whether you sit on the right or the left. You're worried about the other side and people say well maybe we should buy gun well if your thought processes running there give me a call out help you work your way through the thought process. It's here's the bottom line. It's not for everybody. But if you wanna go there we can help you make some informed. Decisions are number's eight. Six six talk gut okay. The second amendment foundation and the firearms policy coalition are busy filing a lot of lawsuits trying to set precedent trying to take advantage of the change in the supreme court and also frankly tried to establish some ideas about what's right and what's wrong when it comes to gun rights and who can buy guns. Who can own guns because there there are areas where there's not a lot of logic and there's inconsistency there and one that was just filed in the state of louisiana near and dear to me. We're going to tell you about that danza. Linka is the president of the louisiana shooting association. He is a practicing attorney. He had a frequent guest on here and also a good friend of mine. Dad joins us right now to fill us in. Hey what's the status on this lawsuit. What is it what. What's the challenge on this thing. Well basically A couple of eighteen to twenty year olds who are members of the shooting association. have challenged the ban on the sale of handguns and ammunition by federally licensed dealers to adults who are eighteen to twenty years old Any adult from age eighteen up can purchase a shotgun or rifle from federally. Licensed dealer right okay. However there's a specific prohibition sern the purchase and sale and delivery and all of the all of that language of handguns and importantly handgun ammunition. by a federally licensed dealer to and dole Law-abiding adult eighteen to twenty so We believe the second amendment foundation the firearms policy com Coalition and he's shooting association along with these plaintiffs. Believe that That's unconstitutional so. That's the challenge. Okay so when you're eighteen years old you are an adult you have rights which ascribe to you at that point you at eighteen nineteen twenty years old can do a lot of other things you can even as you say you can buy a rifle you could buy shot shotgun you can buy an ar fifteen you can buy ammunition for those. You just can't go to a licensed gun store and buy a handgun or handgun ammunition. What was the history there. How did that come about. Remember as far as i know it Came about in the nineteen sixty eight gun control act which is a little interesting. Because that's about three years prior to think it was the twenty six th amendment that provided Adults eighteen to twenty two years old with the right to vote in federal and state elections. So it seems to be completely inconsistent that you can buy long. Smith can't buy handguns and then of course he just say the handgun ammunition makes it more problematic because there are of course longer handgun ammo and that can be confusing and constricting depending on where you are and what the store will allow you to buy sure and you could actually in a lot of states including when he's you could actually at age eighteen own a handgun. You just can't purchase it from a dealer so if you owned the handgun you'd be. It'll to buy ammunition for okay. Let me make sure people understood that. Because i've always thought that was a very interesting. The people you know eighteen year olds can't handguns. Yeah the can you. Can you can own a handgun. Eight thousand nine hundred twenty. You can't buy it from a licensed dealer. You can actually now not sure if you can actually buy one yourself but if you're gifted one you can own a handgun but now you can't go by ammo for the gun. You own legally correct so challenging in federal court right sir. Okay the plan. If of course i mean look the plan all of these drive a bunch of these cases and try to have good cases and good plaintiffs and no matter what happens along the way either side is whoever loses is going to appeal and dry them. And let's get some good precedents. Whether it's a precedent in the appeals court in louisiana that would be the fifth circuit or all the way up to the supreme court. Correct basically heller When when the heller decision came out of the supreme court it left a lot of open questions. It confirmed that there was an individual right to bear To keep and bear arms that it was not a militia right. It belongs to an individual It also said things about handguns that they are the You know they're in common usage that they are protected by the second amendment. You know that they are the most useful for people for self defense. Which is a very main clause or a of a main reason for the second amendment and but they didn't flesh anything out okay and it is up to the lower federal courts Mostly the appeal courts. But you can't get to the appeal court without going through a district court. I to flesh out all of the smaller questions okay. Now they significant questions but they you know The supreme court has pronounced this this blanket. Okay statement but leaves the lower courts to deal with the details and eventually some of these lower details You'll have a maybe the fifth circuit as a you know says yes. It's unconstitutional and the four circuit says. No it's not unconstitutional. And then the The supreme court takes up and hopefully in mexico decision right right that we would fe as opposed to with the other side and now that we have What we think is a favorable makeup of the supreme court. I it looks pretty good to run cases in as much as we can right now. Dan at hold over the break here but what we do tempe how they find out about louisiana should we. We can't shooting dot com. We've got website and it has all the information that you would do it possibly okay. We'll come back. Talk with dan about What's going on over in georgia. Because he and i agree this is as we say for all the marbles. This is where it's happening. This is ground zero for the second amendment right now for the next two months and if you're not involved in that fight shame on your we're gonna explain to you why you should and how you can get involved. We'll be right back for more than seventy years. Tim knee triggers has been enhancing the shooter's experience whether it's a local competition a day at the range or even the hunt of a lifetime setting the standard in aftermarket triggers. Tim knee is now producing more than one hundred and seventy models of triggers for bolt action. Rifles shotguns arrivals. 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That's gallery of guns dot com palm recipe gun. Talk eight six six talk gun. We're talking with daniel inca from the losers shooting association but also just a second amendment activist and fighter and warrior for many many many years. And dan you and i. We're talking practically daily now because we understand that a big election big national election you kind of look at everything and everything's going on your. Your attention gets diffused to get diluted but now that's not true now we can focus down. We can hone in on just one little area one st if you would talk for a second about this. What's going on in georgia. And what it means specifically the gun owners well and it's a weird occurrence okay but Both of georgia's senators orrin runoff elections on january the fifth and it's a weird occurrence because that was One senator had had Health issues and and dropped out and head. Someone appointed to His take his place so that election is running and then the regular election is so. It's a chance to replace both or keep both of georgia's senators We're in a position. Where the republicans have fifty senators The democrats have forty eight and if republicans win these key senate seat. They'll fifty to control the senate if the democrats win. They'll have fifty. And the republicans have fifty and the democrats will have controlled by virtue of the Basically they will have the control because they'll have the white house and camera. Harris becomes the president of the senate and she cast the tie breaking vote correct and that would give them control of the white house. Control the house. I mean we made great strides in the house but but the democrat is still have control and control of the senate. The problem with the control of the senate is that the the party that has control of the senate gets make the rules and chuck schumer. Who is now the minority leader. Who i would hope the keep. The minority leader has threatened to do away with the filibuster which is a requirement for anything to pass devotes attack Actually to get to the floor requires sixty votes right That has prevented a lot of Badge gun control legislation from from reaching the floor for the The mansion to me Right yeah i mean that was that you had more than fifty votes but They didn't have sixty so it was defeated. So that's the main thing is to prevent them from changing the rules to require a simple majority if they have a simple majority. A lot of bad things can occur in assault weapon ban could could pay us I think it would too. I mean i think it absolutely would and people i've heard people say well you know the democrats. There's some moderate democrats. They wouldn't vote for that. You actually had history with that because we had a gun. Supposedly second amendment represent us from louisiana. Who voted for the gun ban. Bro was a solid a rated. Nra guy okay. He was a senator. He voted for the first assault weapon. And billy toes. Zan was not only saw solid Senators congressman He voted for the ban and then change the republican party. Okay so i mean. We're talking about broken. Democrats but much like the affordable care act when the democrats needed sixty votes and they had sixteen senators and they twisted sixty arms. Maybe a hundred and twenty harms and all of them in line so i have no doubt that they will be to put together if they control the senate it would be put together. Fifty votes plus the Plus the vice president right what they yep exactly and i know that i can tell your phone's blowing up because it's just this is what's happening and i guess you talked to steve scalise regularly and he suggested i've been telling people about win. Read right yes yes. That's the way that you can you can Give to the campaigns for both Off learn and senator purdue and you can go along Our facebook page. I posted the wind Link and then the link to the to individual campaigns right and when you go to win red dot com w. inra n. d. win red dot com. Those that's what's going to pop up going have those runoff elections georgia and you can make a donation and people said we know but i don't have any money what everybody's got ten bucks or twenty bucks and that that makes a difference so we get a five hundred thousand a million of us ten million of us. I mean there are supposedly one hundred and ten million gun owners. That adds up what you and i used to say you know. Donate the cost box fan. Benicia out as i was like sixty dollars. Six point fifty good point. Hey dan look. I appreciate your time and appreciate what you're working on and then we'll keep talking. We'll bring dan in casey because he's he's talking to the right people and also new member of the board of the second day the citizens committee for the right to bear arms. Congratulations thank you sir. All right thanks for what you're doing and tell the family. Hello talk you later. All righty i guess. The question is are you would you. Why wouldn't you make a donation. You may not be in georgia but you can do something. This is focused. This is laser focus. We know where the action needs to be eight six six. Talk gun backward to hear. Tony's called in from arizona with some important information a lot of us look at arizona going. What just happened there. Tony first of all tell me who you are. What your situation is your position and then tell us what happened here. Hi tom how're you doing. I'm the vice president of the arizona state rifle and pistol association cool You've had me on your show before. And i really appreciate it so i just i just wanted to address two very quick Items number one. One of the reasons georgia is so important. Because unfortunately senator nick. Sally lost her bid to stay in the senate to Unfortunately mark kelly of all people so That would actually only pick up that the democrats are able to make So it's it makes georgia even more important because headset mic salad. Been able to keep that seat. We wouldn't be in this position for those who don't know mark. Kelly is an avowed gun banner. Even though he keeps saying well. I owned guns go. Yeah but you're the spokesman for the gun ban lobby for heaven sakes yeah and You know he was heavily financed by bloomberg matter of fact the inside joke here is that he is the third senator senator from new york because he was Pretty much recruited handpicked by chuck schumer to run for that seat and mix. Sally actually came a lot closer than Than the poll showed. I mean at one point. Kelly was ahead by fourteen points. And i think by the time it's all said and done. She probably lost that race by maybe two points and Two or three point so it's actually a lot closer than people thought and kelly has to run again in two years here. yes this is. This is a continuation of filling. The late senator john mccain. That's right so this is only a two year slot for him. He's gonna have to run again in two years. Okay well that that gives us hope so take all that and then turn it around and put this laser focused on on georgia. Then given what's happened in arizona right so Here again you know had mixed. Sally been able to stay in the seat and that would have given us a little bit more breathing room for georgia. But unfortunately that didn't happen so these two seats in georgia are absolutely critical. And you know. It's midnight train to georgia for bloomberg everybody else. They're dumping just a ton of cash and then that race and You know I'm not gonna. I'm not gonna produce the tecate on the national elections. I mean i. I have my own opinions. But i'm not a conspiracy theorist we'll see how it all plays out but you know if if if biden won fair and square than you know we're just gonna have to deal with it and move on and hope for the best if he won fair and square being the the key word yet and i'm with you it's like okay. If he ended up winning then all that means is that we have a really tough fight and we have to get ready to fight. Fight fight all the time and get. Everybody signed up and everybody on board right. Yeah and then you know. There's there's other issue of well you know. Arizona for biden so not arizona. Now blue state i can assure you that is absolutely not a blue state so City independence pretty much are are the most important voting block in the state of arizona. The breakdown is it's about fifty one percent Republican about thirty two percent Democrat and then everybody else wrote the independent so whichever the which way the independence goes is kind of how the state goes so on the national level you know the president looks like he he said about a ten thousand vote margin I believe so extremely close. There's only like point two percent so as an extremely close election right. Yes kelly did win but by very close margin than anybody else fraught. Plus at the state level the arizona legislature is still in republican hands. Both houses everybody thought that one at least one of them is gonna flip the up. That did not happen exactly and that was a big deal tourney. I've just i've run out of time. I appreciate you calling. Keep us posted. What's going on out there and they'll give up. Don't give up Yeah it's not really moving as much as being told it is moving and the rest of us. Everybody no matter where you are all focuses on george. You don't have to worry about fifty states and all the rest of. It's just too racist in georgia right now for all the marbles eight six six talk gun.

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"The wacky gun talk after show crews gathered and there's no telling what they'll say. I at that particular time Tom Gresham here. We got Jim Kinsey over there where you should eat. Nothing you can do about. That is Tom. Hanan is with us. Tom Thank you so much for coming in and filling in for Michelle again greasy eight. That always a pleasure. Oh good stuff yeah just Yakin about this and that and everything else and we got people who've called in we'll take a look at that so we appreciate that just kind of a weird time isn't it. Oh Jeez say that again just weird. I was thinking about trying to come up with an analogy and people who say well. This thing came out of nowhere. Didn't see it come on and go. Yeah but that's the way a threats come kind of going through the whole the guys running at you with the knife. You don't go while I just can't believe this has happened. I've never seen anything like this before. Right he's got to take action. He's not wearing a criminal t shirt. I had no idea I did like your idea. I'll you gotTA explain. We were talking during the break lockdown. Go ahead no you. If your idea man I heard you were talking about the scenario. Actually one of the callers brought up. That you've brought many times before about You don't know what you're getting involved and you don't know that. Atf agents beaten up that girl or the girls the ATF agent. Or whatever right right and I said well just be easier. This made a law that said all criminals have to wear a t shirt that says. I'm a criminal brilliant. Yeah I think you're onto something work wishing law while you work on that I'm GONNA get some calls. Let's just he's out Arnold Missouri. Hey Justin thank you for your patience. We appreciate you letting us get you back in your time. No worries. I'll tell you what I gotta get analogy for you here. No froze experience if the gun if the gun Gun Stores and gun ranges star. Don't start opening up real soon again. Track at in in In frigging him. I'm married Racer vibrating. I usually do a lot of shooting on Trump on trampolines and five Saint League and I finally burnt gunpowder today for the first time in about a month. And I've been trying to reserve a little bit you know cut back and whatnot but There this is how I I'm I'm I'm running out of stuff to do so you didn't. We all did you. Went out and bought somethin- yes I did. Actually I was about to something. I bought an impe nine compact to point out. I pull the trigger and I got it and IT IS I. It's good to have snicker lesson back in my handle. Say That restaurant gun. I've been trying to track down for about eight years now because I've got rid of one ahead years ago stupidly and so I found a model twenty nine Dash. Three eight and three eighths in very good condition. Okay let me. Let me decipher that. We're talking about forty four magnum the end frame Smith and Wesson with the long barrel. The eight and three eighths inch. We're talking about dirty Harry plus here. You got it and I'm back to hidden soda. Kansas City your fan explain. Why that is I mean I know but there's just something magical when you get that much barrel out there isn't it. Yeah well I mean it's it's all about your sight radius. And you know it's just think about the trig of it Now Michelle was here. She'd understand I don't know about the other things. He's not wrong wrong. Another another part of that. Justin is that when you got the longer barrel. Yes you have a longer serious but you also have mass out there. It doesn't not twitchy it kind of hangs on target for you exactly It really does and it. It gives you an extra second to squeeze that trigger and get it right where you want it. And they're just something about you know Big Gun in your hand. If I WANNA hit a deer you know if I want to shoot a deer. Hunter yards with a handgun. I can trust myself and that pistol to do what I needed to do. And There's just something about it just you. You don't get out of a plastic gun you don't get it out of a defensive pistol. I mean yeah I can. I can shoot a an eighteen inch gone at two hundred yards with sixty five but consistently no right. There's just something like you're saying something magical about you know that they long barrel the weight. It just eats the recoil For somebody who started out new and shooting and they want to shoot a forty four magnum. you can do reduce magnum loads. And if they'll like a nine millimeter out of that gun shows are wait. Shoot forty four special in it and the other thing is and you haven't mentioned it but is that secret sauce part. Which is the single action trigger pool on that Smith and Wesson revolver it about as good as it is possible for anything to get. You really got to focus on trigger control because it's easy to cook that took took one off if if you're not meaning to but when you get it where you want it when you're used to it it's like you're the trigger is connected to your brain with nothing between when you start to think now it just goes off Yup Yup. It's wherever you want to go. It goes. Yeah that's so the question. Was this a used gun you picked up it was used Somebody had you know been used Somebody's Hun- within the past has got holster wear But it's not it's not been shot out But it actually had collaborated oil underneath the rear sight. It had sat for so long. Well I've always said that you can often by a forty four magnum with you. Know a box of ammo. That has three to five rounds. Fired it some some folks just go. I don't like this. This is not not so much on the big guns but you get a three or five inch or two four inch people go. That's just that hurts. Same thing with the snub nosed 357 goes out and shoots like three rounds of three High Power. Three fifty seven snobby. They're going. I'm not doing that anymore and I hope yeah I know that's why you should thirty eight out of those little guns but just in. This is terrific. I am excited for you did you do you know. Was this gun sold because somebody was trying to take advantage of you know people buying guns during the corona virus thing. Well that is my assumption. distance simple fact that you know. I've seen more classic firearms and not just revolvers the classic firearms on the rack in the past month. Or so because everybody's digging out your Damon Sean Forever. And it's great for collectors like me because I mean I can go out and instead of paying twelve to fifteen hundred bucks gone online. I can spend a thousand pick it up in house. Nice very good again. That was just what you were saying. This is a this is a good time to be selling. That's what I've been doing last week. Actually I looked at my pistol inventory and said you know what I bought this one from somebody who needed money for one hundred bucks last year and I can get four hundred now. Now's the time debt. Means you get to go by. Spent four hundred dollars on another gun. He said a lot of AMMO. Hey Justin thank you. That's a great range. Report congrats on that revolver. That is terrific man. Thank you yeah. It's it's definitely staying stable if it's nice don't make that mistake twice right. Oh never never actually the best part the best part about all this and I'll making sure I've pulled the stocks off of the gun to full clean up when I first got it and I was born back in nineteen eighty six well. The stocks say June Nineteenth Nineteen ninety-six. Oh this is my birth year gun. You're such a baby all right. Thanks Justin appreciate that. That's fine deal. Cocoa real is. Let's grab Ken In Denver before we hit our break. Hey can't thank you so much for your patients We've been Kinda Yakima out this and that and I know you got something more serious to talk about okay Yes I do actually The American people have been have been paying the ATF to do something. Background checks on convicted felons. Just if they have the right to have their second amendment back as far as I knew in the constitution it did not think about anything about anything about violent crime which I don't think. Violent criminals should have weapons but people like myself who did the crime on their nineteen forty seven now. Nowhere near what I used to be my victim has my family have to play the victim because somebody didn't when I was nineteen years old. So what what you say is it. You commit a crime at Nineteen. Got Convicted of it. Now you are prohibited person and you know what I am right there with you. I agree completely at this point. There's no reason you shouldn't have your rights back. Here's what happened. You know the story but some years ago Congress chains the funding to ATF and remove their funding. They used to use to be able to process applications to restore rights and so now. Atf will not process request to get Restore rights and nobody in Congress has the guts to stand up and say 'cause they they know what's going to happen that they they just ten bucks but did two years ago. I watched the videos and doing it. They went it passed through the house. Born it got to the Senate totally disappeared. That's what I'm that's what I'm saying. They don't have the guts to pass it because somebody when they go to run for reelection. We'll say this person voted to put guns in the hands of convicted felons. And now they're having to chase that that's what keeps them from passing this out. I understand people will introduce the bill but it hasn't been passed right. That's correct okay. So there's not going to get them to vote this and so what we may have to do and there may be a way around this. I don't know if we can pull it off. I'm just kinda working on this as I'm talking here. It's just a matter of funding is all it is. It may be that the president was some kind of executive order can. Just get the money back. Atf say start processing these again. When our if I get a chance I'm going to bring that up to the right people And see if maybe there's a way to get that done it's otherwise the term paying your debt to society as a bunch of BS correct. No exactly right you serve your Senate so you did you roll your probation. Whatever it was and it should be over at the end of that. They should not be a life sentence. So you lose your rights for life. That's just wrong and now can you do know that some states have a provision where you can apply for and get your rights back in that state not that. I'm aware of yet lawyer that I've talked to say no going to know maybe not in Colorado. I don't know if Colorado out of the states but but there are that do that so You know the other thing. Is You need a lawyer who specializes in this. You don't need a lawyer. You gotta find somebody that really knows what they're doing on this. Dave Koppel K. O. P. E. L. I believe it is I go back. Look he's in Denver with the Independence Institute. Contact the Independence Institute in Denver and see if they can help out all right. Thank you Sir. I appreciate it. I hope it works out for you because God knows felons that are released from prison. There's no way they would ever even consider getting a gun so the ones who are going to commit crimes are going to get a gun anyway and the guy who are living a good life and turned his life around and he's you know going through life and he's just frustrated as all get out because he knows he's a good guy now and this shouldn't be happening to his family's the victim not just him. That's a great point. Yeah it really is so I'm GONNA to see if I could whisper in the right ear and maybe look. I understand that. This is a difficult thing for a politician to do because it will be used against him. You put guns in the hands of convicted felon campaigns thing that people can use against her and they all know that just is all right. Quick break here. We're GONNA cut back and we'll get a chance to be right back Ooh Easy monitoring of your personal gun safe hotel room safe toolbox storage unit luggage and more is now an option with the lockdown pock. 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Oh well Kinda monotonous. But you know. It's the weather's changing so that makes it makes it. You're you're just hold up at home. You're not going to the store now. I take it correct. Yes yeah we were staying at home As I know everybody's making a sacrifice in some way of of their life but You know it brought to mind how much I miss my shooting family. And I know that we're all making sacrifices in that lane but I guess it's also kind of a time to reflect on everything that is important things to not take for granted time friends family on that whole. Yeah no absolute threw in the whole not taking things for granted and also I was talking earlier about how people are nervous or frightened losing their jobs. And it's just a time for everybody to take a deep breath because you don't want to be too judgmental because you don't know what that other person's going through these days right. It's actually a good time to do some. I guess. Self reflection values some respecting to see how important really having the. Second Amendment right is to so many people and I hope that that could possibly change the way or or bring more perspective to voting time in November. But you know I guess one of the big things that I kinda wanted to put out there was affect that while we're making the sacrifice one of the things I want to make sure we don't sacrifices shooters are skill set. You're assuming we had skilled in the first place kind of rules out and being able to you take for granted the ability to just go to your favorite range or take your friends to the ranger wife or whatever that might look like for you and I just think it's so important to keep working on those shooting skills. Sometimes we take for granted the slow shooting. This is definitely a good kinda take baskin fed and the hand and and not do all the speed and hosted work necessarily You know working on a poll where you're not disturbing the sites working on you. Know just just experiment with different grips. You might just try different things and also I'm just thinking. Now there are like a zillion videos online you can go online and maybe pick up a different technique or different. We doing something or I never thought of that moment. Right well and the other thing too is that you know some of those things that That you might not ever use a push to the becky. You're safe like those twenty two pistols or pilot in the air guns those types of things that help keep these skill. Maybe you know if you have a basement you could for sure ended up safely if you had enough base did Set up a range to be able to do air gun work and whatnot. And it's all skill set and it's cheap and who knows maybe this'll give you that potato. I Dunno go buy something new that you thought about a good point. You know you can buy your guns They can actually ship directly to your door and you can set up. I mean you're going to garage and basement depending on where you are. Maybe a backyard shoes and you know. Keep your your skills sharp. I like that good idea. Yeah you know dry. Firing is huge. That's one of the things that you know we've been doing quite a bit of along with the twenty to work is just working. Let's start firing skills. Obviously making your own the immunization minding ourselves if the gun is loaded loud. I'm loaded one when we go back to carry that firearm. But you know working with those all that type of thing. I mean this is just the time to really slow down and make sure you have those basic skills sets down Pat Spec in doing what you're talking about it talking about and GM and Tom is basically. This is a weird time. And you're forced into different pattern so you gotta make yourself stop and say okay. How do I take advantage of this? How can I turn this into a positive? Here's something else I can be doing and Michelle. I do have to say you do understand that to your average anti-gun person the very idea that you could be digging around in a safe and find a gun that you had forgotten about just to make them totally apoplexy there. What do you mean you got guns you? You don't even know back there. Oh not just one JIM demint guilty. Jim May have to go and Bartolotta his firearm spent. Because he's been lonely. Thinking might be a good time to also you turn about dry firing stuff be a great time to pick up a laser for your gun. Ooh An and that we can see the little dot move on the wall and go. Well I am flinching. Yes for all those people who say yeah. Yeah when you put that laser on wall out there and you dry fired and it makes a six inch streak across the wall you're going. Oh maybe I do. We could talk to crimson trace and they could change their slogan to dry fire with Curzon. Trace the great revelation. I'm thinking what you do. Is You have traits. Come up with a model that just stays pointed at the target no matter where you point the like the military. You don't shoot any better but he's makes you feel better about yourself. Yeah yeah locked in steady steady gun. Okay hours love to ask people from these gun companies and. I'll put some of the dumbest questions you've ever gotten a trade show and the guys at Crimson Trace. This goes right to what you said. Michelle said okay. You got the laser on there. How does the bullet no to go? Where the link do it no? How No joke? No yes WOAH. Things that that I've kind of looked at. It may seem crazy to the antibodies out there. That think that we're missing our family members that you know shooting teams really become that people like Bradley on and Julie Gallup and my husband and I are just really missing that interaction. You know. We're out there shooting them doing something that we love but you know that social skills you're going to stuff a good forum or a platform or something like that that you can get on and have conversations with people and I just you know collectively put some thoughts out there different things that we can do. This is the perfect time for us all to come together as a community and thrived. Yeah it is get together. We'll do it so I was talking about. Maybe even finding people who just bought their first gun and offered a do facetime with him. Look while you have your gun. They're unloaded we will talk you through how to hold it what to do and how to manipulate it even before you go to arrange at least we can show you how to have multiple discipline right nine. This is a time when you know bringing somebody new might not be in the you know ability range. I guess but you know setting up those future dates because they bench labor going to be back to life. I mean the south. You know a lot of the nationals. Already councils in different events or cancelled just like hurts my soul for so many reasons but it is important to keep those conversation going to keep the interest there. People are afraid right now. And they're purchasing firearms because of burglaries and home invasions and this is a bad time to take up that as a as a dumb. That's what you're wanting to do. But you know making sure that those people come back again and get the training and spend that time and more time because obviously they can't get on on the range and if they're new to this and we really need to take advantage somehow and get those people incorporated into some training. Absolutely Michelle thank you for spending time with us here. I know that you're doing by phone. It's not ideal but it's working. We're all accommodating right now aren't we? We are everybody take care. I hope everybody out there listeners. And and Jim and Tom and Tom you and PAT. I'm your family's all healthy. Stay healthy and if not prayers and thoughts to you all very much thank dear all right. Take Care Guys. Let's see you think all right good deal always good to talk with Michelle now that We were with her. Delete that whole thing yet. We don't we don't have to actually have any show who who. I mean not Tom. You know what I was thinking. It'd be a great time to get into reloading so anyway and ammos hard to find except that the components are impossible to find that although that Har site morning things people bought the same people went out and bought. They grabbed all the AMMO. Primers everything and so once again. If you didn't anticipate you're behind the curve. I'm sitting on one hundred and fifty speer gold dot self-defense. Bullets Oh that's right. You got all you have to share that story. Oh yeah a couple of weeks ago. I thought he did but above friend of mine. I was in a hurry and she called up and she's texting. She said. Hey I've got this. They still have ammo. I'm going to buy it. Is this the right stuff to buy? Because she's a Newbie and I was a situation where I couldn't really focus and I looked at said Gold spiritual dot com. Yeah great stuff and the price is tremendous and now I know why because when it got shipped to us it was Indeed fifty one hundred fifty Bolles funny thing is because she actually I got mine gave him to her. I never looked on. Just put them in the shelf. I'll get to them and she calls me and she goes. What am I supposed to do? Throw these damn things that I said. What are you talking about? I said go look at the box. Boxing son of a gun pocketful of those handy. You never know. Put them in shotgun shells or something you could need. People have to be as a little miniature paper strong in California. I get it to silence on the end of it. It's still sit. There actually is a reason that there's a difference to bullet cartridge. Evidently there. Is I say who knew that. And so easy to do. You're going. Yeah that's a great price goal dot man. That's some good ammo right there. Yeah well it would. If you actually put it in a cartridge live and learn all well you know man. I was talking with a buddy this morning. It's pass this along. And he said yeah he says back. We're talking about guns. And he was asked about this kind of that guy. He said he'd gotten a snub. Three fifty seven for his wife and so he went out and shot. It sounds good. Yeah Yeah we'll be hearing on shot it and he says man that's a lot of recurrent thing. I don't even WanNa let her try that with three fifty seven. Mm loads I said No. You don't let me give you a tip. The Black Hills Honey Badger in thirty eight special not three fifty seven thirty eight special one hundred grand book and it will outperform a lot of traditional three fifty seven magnum loads in terms of penetration and trauma. And now you have not allowed to recall the lightweight bullet. But you get a lot of good penetration out of it. I think that is a really good alternative for people who are carrying thirty eight and three fifty seven magnum snubs. There you go. Honey Badgers okay. Honey Badger yeah. That's weird bullet. It's you know people look at and go. That's just weird. It's not it's not hollow point. It doesn't expand I go. Yeah Yeah I know but goal on their website and look at the Ballistic Gelatin. And you go. Wow seconds uh-huh yeah. That stuff really works. Yes it does. It's you know what it is and we're all the same way. It doesn't matter what your world is that you operate in something comes along that it so different. You think it can't be right. You can't actually work because I've been doing this for so long. I know what works. And then you look at this just weird. I can't possibly work then. Go well actually does. Lighter recoil is always a good thing when it comes to those little snobby. They're just not fun to shoot. Are they well? That depends on what unless you're masochist? That would be great. Were the worst of all of them. And Look I love Smith or Wesson but the worst thing ever was their scanty 'em superlightweight three fifty seven meg. Oh actually they ended up with a forty four magnum as well. It's like you're going to look at. Did you ever have a a firecracker go off in your hand? Unfortunately yes yes okay. Well that whole bunch and it's just like Oh my God that's awful just hurts to shoot that thing. It's a five or six are under never got past two know. Hey That was fun. You ought to try this the rest of these in this one. Okay Yeah I believe. I've shot just just three inch. Three fifty seven thousand one holy cow. Now Yeah Yeah. I think it's one of the reasons that three twenty seven federal student so well people really like it and you could shoot the light loads but I will say when you shoot the full blown three twenty seven federal magnum loads here where it is pretty much the same as a three fifty seven. Magnum just is and that's why I sold the double barrel shotgun that I used to have. Why's that the three inch shells and they're just. I couldn't find shells that were that didn't kick like a mule. I found on most threes. You can you can put in the two and three quarters and stuff on Nat. In the. He's he's I don't know how to discover that folks because it folds down and you stick the two shells in the back. Flip IT UP. The two thousand four would not actually. It wouldn't strike them really. They sent down into far like gun. It was stoger over under twelve gauge When you put the two and three quarter shells in they went down too far. They went down a little too far and the striker wouldn't hit him. Yeah there's something badly wrong with that gun because that should be. It should be the rim of the showroom in so if that wasn't happening. Nfl depending upon the front of Shell hitting the throat if you forcing cone of Shotgun Chill. Gone from slopping there yeah it's a really good thing you got rid of that whoever he sold it to you might want to call and say don't shoot that gun that's bad wrong with it and it's just not it's not right. Israel like say that Don right so there you go. That's what you say about me growing up. That bore just ain't right about that boy that's right. Oh lordy well. It's been are weird couple of weeks and you know Allen talk about all these lawsuits and you know and then you've got this guy calls it. Hey the mayor of Anchorage is closing down these stores just by edict and if we don't push back now and people said well you know gun stores are not essential. And why are you pushing this deal? Because if we don't then the next emergency is going to be a snow emergency then the next emerges. There's going to be heavy traffic day. And whatever excuse they can conjure up and then it's just you know what we think that guns are just a problem overall. We're going to declare that to be emergency shutdown. All Gun sales one step at a time. Yeah and you know we know. That's what they wanna do because they actually tell us that. So I guess going back I would encourage everybody once again to get involved. But here's my question for you. How do you think this is all going to affect the election? My gut feeling is. It's going to help trump. Yeah I do. I think because a lot of people woke up. Well I mean if you just take one faction here if you look at the amount of folks both liberal and conservative that a first time gun buyers a lot of those are going to convert to actually be gun people that get it and I never had a gun. Now that have one. I see what these wack jobs I'm talking about. Guns are pretty cool. I think we're going to gain some voters. They're just think overall he's he's he's doing a pretty good job. Let's just you know I don't have a crystal ball. My Gut feeling is we've gained more gun people and that's always been a huge portion of the vote is is the gun vote right. I think we've gained some voters. Draw through a backwards way but right take him out. We can get him well. It'll be interesting to see because I I don't know I hope that proves to be the case. I don't know if the new gun owners are going to change their political persuasion based on this. I don't know we don't know and the other thing is whoever Biden's running mate is that's who will be president because he'll retire. Who Joe who? He's been really quiet past not discount the possibility of Cuomo coming into the convention taking the lead or taken as vp taking note taking the presidential slot. Okay don't discount that possibility or possibly take vp. At which point he'll be prisoner and who knows how long Biden's GonNa last. So you're you're ruling out breath you don't think Oprah's has a chance. She can't take the pay cut down all of makes it much money now. You wonder why they do that but didn't want one of them donates at all. Well here's what concerns me a little bit because you hearing more and more people push for the paper. The absentee ballots are voting by mail and it just opens up the door to massive fraud. Oh yeah no doubt. And it's one of the reasons did Democrats back Shortly after the sixteen election I think they were pushing for What they call Voter Reform Their own version of reform going back to paper ballots. Yeah it's no no ide- annoyed. Yeah and there's well when you vote by mail how you get a check anybody's. I saw great meeting. The other day was about these. These liberal states that are preventing other liberals neighboring liberal states people from coming into them right. But they're still against a wall mart but they've got the police position to keep people from entering New Jersey or Rhode Island right. There you go. Well it'll be interesting. You know the main thing is for us all to pay attention. With these new efforts to clamp down on gun rights and to get energized. 'cause I actually think that trump wins if his base is energized and his base turns out. He doesn't actually have to win over a lot of people he just has to get people who believe in MTA turn out into vote. Yeah and we need the House House is going to be a stretch We and you gotta hold onto the Senate. I don't I don't know if it is statistically possible to get the house. I mean anything's possible. But it's highly unlikely the most important thing hold onto the Senate and the White House because if you bet yes that's it that's the whole deal and if you have Supreme Court judges injustices you're going to have a thirty year impact on these decisions and I keep hoping I know it probably is silly but I keep hoping for that Supreme Court decision that simply says no you cannot ban gun so you're bans on semiautomatic rifles. No bans on magazines holding more than ten. No unconstitutional it. All goes away completely. Do Away with all the stuff state-by-state stuff twee slip in full auto while you're on a roll Chur Ford Edge on making identify. Thank you there. You go all right guys. I gotta go back and find out what's hiding in the back of a safe and like you said earlier. I'm going to enjoy my vacation. I think I'M GONNA tonight. I'M GONNA go out and check out the guest bedroom. You know if Palm Sunday and then we're GonNa do net for those who listening next week we're going to be doing record shows that go there. But it's GONNA be off around here for Easter willing to my ass though Mike McCurry Michelle call in here. Couldn't nobody listened to our into the ether breakfast. Michelle there it. Is You guys be safe seriously? Take care of yourself because nobody thinks out. Thanks for checking out the after show and don't forget to join the gun talk true squad at gun. Talk Dot Com and grab gun deleo for your smartphone. It'll save you money on guns Ammo limbaugh.

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NM Forgotten Child: Victoria Martens Part 2

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NM Forgotten Child: Victoria Martens Part 2

"The menendez brothers we are talking about panelists smart andrea. Yates is kind of one of the first things that started my true crime session for. Daphne gonna be diving into the legal and psychological parts of this k's first of all. You shouldn't be friends with people that ask you to cut up. Somebody's body and on the flip side. You shouldn't be friends with somebody who is willing to cut up. Somebody's body if she is abusing drugs at nine and twelve years old. It would make sense that there was some significant abuse going on in the house. That's not normal. Never trust the mother or the lover who is a self professed drug dealer in court. I always say get a lawyer because you just fed them this information that they didn't have and they're now using against you hi everybody. My name's mary. And i'm deirdre and we're from not your normal podcast with my experience in psychiatry and my experience and criminal justice we bring a fresh perspective on small town cases and those cases. You can't forget if you love true. Crime a little bit of sarcastic manner but lots of objective research. Come find us on apple podcasts. Or wherever you listen to podcasts. You know what's the best part of hump day. There's a new episode. Every wednesday see their true consequences is a proud member of the barilla's podcasters guilt look deeper consequences as a true crime and mystery podcast stories based in new mexico and the american desert southwest post. Eric carter blondine. I am welcome back to chew consequences. I'm your host. Eric carter dean today. I'm joined by a very special guest by the name of joe. Joel welcome. thank you eric. I'm really glad to have you here. Not glad to be talking about this. This cases is really tough end to get through. But i'm glad that you're here. And i think i reached out to you a while back to start this process in. We're finally here. So i'm glad you're here. Thank you for having me beg you or covering the story escapes. Yeah it's You know my brother story in in my family story Watching torius case in watching other cases like omari and in all these other kids has been beyond heartbreaking for me because my brother was murdered thirty three years ago and you would hope that things would improve in the state with regard to child abuse and they just don't seem to be getting any better Progress seems to be extremely slow. And victoria's case in particular really really got to me. Because i just feel like it's been it's been so many years of this happening over and over and over and over again and nothing changes and i don't really know what it's gonna take to change things but i'm hoping that having these conversations and making people aware of what's going on in this state might motivate them to do things differently to think differently when they're voting to think differently When you know. 'cause i know that a lot of people that say for example the judges they may just vote down the party line of whatever party that within that that's not always the best way to go Especially with judges right you wanna do you want to look at what they were and And so i think that having these conversations really important as difficult as it is in as painful as it is for people to hear. I talk about it. It's important to know why things are the way they are absolutely so If you don't mind tell a little bit about yourself. Tell me how you became involved in advocating for this case in for victoria and just give a little bit of history on on you in the whole process. If you don't mind okay well. I moved to new mexico and twenty twelve right before. The mario ordeal nablus absolutely heartbreaking. And i'm sure there were a couple other cases before. Victoria's and i was just shocked at new mexico's leniency. Towards some of the most seriously violent offenders there are it kind of awakened me. And victoria's murder happened. It was just so outrageous and horrific that it just meeting At bob and like you said the person that is honest conversations speaking about it or awareness learning will know what is really going on in new mexico. Yeah so you have a facebook page that you manage the tory martin's deserve this. And then there's a victorian martin's voice age. Okay how did you get involved in advocating and on all the things that you've been doing for victoria well basically what happened. Was i will never forget where i was. When i first news sitting at mcdonald's having a smoothie and i heard the all or a deceased ten year old and i thought it was the result of a domestic. And that was riddick enough. And then later that day. I had a girlfriend call me and tell me that it was her daughters round and she was absolutely hysterical and then as more and more came out i saw what so i decided i would start doing whatever i could to speak up Make people aware of what's going on in our state Numbers of child abuse cases and child sexual assault or off the charts and it seems like our judges are electricians not changing laws in other basically on a on the wrist and then they proceed to do it again when you look at somebody like jessica kelly who was basically in a revolving door of being arrested and being released and being arrested and being released and that is unfortunately very common in the state repeat offenders continually are cycling through that revolving door and then when when they get out they continue to do horrible things were and it just seems like a no brainer to the everyday person like you and i to say like this. The problem is that you're letting her out all the time able episode. That's what keeps doing this stuff right. Yeah it's it's absurd. And it's mind boggling. And the more i learn about the state of the justice system in this in this state the more angry i become and the more infuriating the more infuriating it as anything else you wanna say about your advocacy or you know where people can find you or anything like that again. By the victoria morton's voice page in miami. Have victoria martin. Deserved this and i also will talk to Had family members reach out and contact me and try to not them so much legal advice but the tone him may be issue stirred here and the step stake in china. Help them advocate. Were there novel anger. Living child relative or a couple people that i'm working with right now that have children. That are being abused by either. Another family member significant other destroyed us support on giving the best advice. I know how to get them. You're absolutely with anybody. Ever needs a platform to share their stories. My my show is always open I'm always wanting to help families of victims to get their story out there because sometimes that's the only way that they can get the district attorney and the attorney general to pay attention to what's happening on the case and i m happy to be able to use his platform for that. That's exactly why created this show. So i'd like to just kind of create an open invitation for you to let people know that. That's a possibility. I absolutely will. And let's talk about talk about this case we're coming up on the four year anniversary of his death. Can you do you mind kind of going. Through the details of what hap and then as the story evolves. I know that there's a lot of twists and turns in False confessions happened so it can get a little confusing but Just whatever you feel is important to. Victoria's story we'll basically. We'll begin on. August twenty four when michelle martin's called the police after jessica. Kelly had just assaulted her baby in with the iron jr. He had that big scar down. Her baby was kind of locked up to a black man. Ray and then they took all of them when it into custody on twenty four and michelle and abyan both Police interogations without an attorney for a little over seven hours long and there were some relief Horrific things that were scouse. And jessica. Kelly lawyer up right away never said a word and then see basically. We were all preparing that. These three people would go to trial and be held accountable for what they've done and that absolutely hasn't been the case. Michelle martin's was the first to get a plea deal. She faced being. What is it twelve to fifteen years. And they're giving her turn if she earns it which is a fifty percent reduction because they don't deem it a violent crime and that to me in itself was just absolutely appalling. What could be more. Horrific child was seeming that she was sexually assaulted that and she was severely beaten up around the Was killed and related right. Yes they Cut up or arms of arms. They cut her chest though been kicked out. Rich three through eight are part of her liver and then they were starting to take off. But we've it was for or provide leg. And then i guess they must have some kind of dispute on the suming and Act with the owner and then a clause michelle and baby and really a not so long after the police for all they went to michelle's were in an jessica opened. It slammed the right back in their face. She proceeded to go to the bathroom in lake. Victoria remains on fire as in hopes to try to destroy evidence. It's just a nightmare. It's the worst. It's it's got to be one of the worst cases in new mexico history. I think it is at least albuquerque's history. It seems to be one of the most brutal horrific is that. I'd seen so i understand that. Once she lit the torres body on fire she jumped out off the balcony police a and luckily walker leg were able to detain her in an initial impressions of case role based on Parts of abm which there was some truce but there is a whole lot of lies and deceptions. And just like. I said me no statement. Shed over two years said nothing Michelle got up bargain. I believe she was the next one that was offered in. She's her narrated doesn't bite the with the witness statements as to what the witnesses solvay right. I know that she was she. The one that made the claims of different male and ball way away after two. Two plus years sedley there's a fourth unidentified well-dressed white male that came to the parv debut shower l. and i guess he asked. Bbn and supposedly jessica said. Oh she's not here but the little girls that hurt and claims. She leads some stranger in the room while she was neth out of a board. And that person killed victoria. Does that seem likely to you. Yeah it seems. Like she's trying to create fabricate this different sequence of events to make herself less guilty youth. Exactly yeah i fully agree with bat in. Move many of us a hot night. There were many people outside and numerous people reported seeing the toria kind of up against the wall and michelle did initially say that gave the comber down but there were no drugs. Just alcohol so that Bits of wildly bumped up against wall. Absurd birthday and later baby michelle web. Numerous witnesses Raw victory by our hair. A yankee radio art regard the next time they saw any activity and not apartment or in the area was jessica carrying her dead body down the steps at the time. We did not know that she was deceased. We weren't sure if she was executed. Drugged or Away but now we know that she was infected when she was trying to carry your done the steps i guess michelle wu baby and pulled in as she quick ran back of the steps with her in her bedroom as some plant she told the vietnam at basically that victoria had been killed and at that point the two of them conspired to disposal victoria. Luckily that didn't happen. Because i think we'd still be a completely unsolved gaze at the point yet. I think it would be very tough to prove what happened. I mean it still is. I think on some level but The fact that her body was still there. I'll probably helped to expedite them at least being arrested. And so what's happened after that has been a bit of a shit show for language. L. h-share ads But at least they were arrested immediately. Hey so okay. Do you think any of what michelle said has any truth to it. I do know there is some truth in it. That victoria was sexually abused prior to they'd be an industrial coming into the picture as she did have an s. Td that dated back somewhere. Were six months or so and that really fits in timeframe of things that i pretty much no. I really don't think that anybody but michelle and whoever else was involved at that plant were aware of the abusively tori and she is still participating in things will run after all activities in seemingly a happy adjusted child and so she wasn't anymore was michelle trafficking her for drugs. Michelle's it or not. Michelle was not on drugs when they arrested three suspects. It got search forms to get bled air all that and in new mexico most states. You don't get tested for drugs or alcohol involving of crime Motor vehicle or boat or some among being type of violation or an accident. So at some point i guess michelle holder glare that she was on drugs and they did do a drug test. I'm assuming on her bed and she came back without so nothing in her system and that not drugs is an ever an excuse for any of that that that's just made it all the more offering bet some person that's fairly well educated. She didn't call it. She was working a job and seeing on the outside in like a normal mom of two kids and then Victoria's dad is under. Michelle has never revealed it. She even knows to. Victoria's biological father is in when victoria was a baby. She got with tori's little brothers dad so he became victorious dad in respects and seven years later when they broke up is when all the stuff started happening just in. Do you think michelle was aware of what was happening. She involved as she said so aware because there is a previous boyfriend on the shells who tried to kiss. Victoria and victoria also said that this man came into her room in the middle of night and i guess michelle perhaps maybe even walked in and he's in the room in the dark in the nine year old child dad. What do you think's going on. And then i guess michelle did get rid of this boyfriend but it seems like that started a vicious cycle. It's just horrifying Looking at pictures victoria without knowing her. She just looked like the sweetest most loving child. Just like a normal ten year old. Absolutely everything learn. I've never actually. I didn't have the pleasure of meeting victoria. Again girlfriends Best friends said they had nothing but good words about how kind of a person has loving sweet fun enough chivas. Just you're happy or lucky child. Like i said until she was super little girl. Okay anything else that we need to know about jessica or michelle before we start talking about. Abm as you said. Jessica barry long violent history. Jessica did in a female being raped at md. See some years prior and she'd never was forced to register as a sex offender. I believe she kind of either lord. The girl in kept watch while somebody else sexually assaulted her with some type of object that led this woman to be severely. Hurt by like you said jessica was a revolving door in the now in and out. Michelle had no criminal history whatsoever in a way to say this. She did kind of seem a little naive. That those types of people that light. I think that helped facilitate things along one. I know that. According to her amphibian they met online dating website which is a little bit of a cautionary tale for people. You don't really know who you're meeting the only know what they're presenting to be online and i think it's important to remember that for anybody. So fabian is he's been a hot topic in in the state especially among child abuse advocates and people like you and i who want to call out injustice as it pertains to child abuse in the state. His case has been completely frustrating and upsetting. And for those of you listening who don't know this He was released from jail pending sentencing on his own recognizance in november of last year. November twenty nineteen. He he is involved in this. You know the to the degree that he was involved. That may not be very clear. But it's clear that he participated in this on some level rate specifically with regards to trying to dispose of his body. I mean that's that was pretty clear. Absolutely don't participate that part of it So let's talk about him talk about his involvement and then let's talk about. Let's talk about the the judge's decisions that have been leading In even up to this week the most recent revelations that have come out from the trial if you don't mind let's go get into that. Hey well. I think when he was actually release. We were all just dumbfounded. As how could you let this man to call free answer Admitted to in his police interrogation he admitted to raping victorious And that unfortunately is not a crime in new mexico. My ally suspicions that a conceded that in case they found dna. Or something linking him. It's so sad so so you're suspicious that perhaps it was done prior to her dying by that was his way of explaining it away a fabricating. Some story should they find anything. Blinked you'd cronin and he also has a history of crime. yes he does. He has a history of abuse against women on some other child abuse charges. I don't know if directly abused child. I think he punched his one of his babies mothers in the days when she was pregnant and stuff like that. So he jessica both at a pretty lengthy violent editorial at this story and they were both known to use drugs. Yes yes so. He confessed to i guess reaping reaping the torreon jews dead He confessed to helping dismember her to right. Yes he did in. I think he probably had no choice because when he was the police appropriately was trying to clean up the lead off of them. They own story on the mass than in an Active lake it was from shells wound or whatever but we know that that's the totality of that you change the socks to parents because they were soaked in blood yes yeah. It was very very gruesome and they. It was reported to that when they subpoenaed. I guess maybe jessica's records she had been looking at google so it can only assume she was looking for a place to dispose of her and didn't get or thankfully I mean it just seems so stupid that they even bothered calling the cops when they're in the middle of all this stuff like may just doesn't make any sense to me now but i'm glad they did. I'm not saying that the best thing they could have. Yeah exactly Okay so he was released in november. I'm not very clear on but judge. Brown's reasoning is I know that he blamed the prosecutors. He said it was their fault that that he had to release fabian. Yes But i'm not really clear. Do you have any insight into what his reasoning was. He deemed that they didn't have enough evidence to prove him as like a clear and present danger to society which i will never understand. It just doesn't fit in. He basically left a male. I guess a few months down the road again employed or some more lenient no conditions of his release and he was granted that and then before we knew it we The baby mamas dating another woman children which was a condition of release violation and they had a hearing on that and it ended up. The judge. brown is allowing this man to be on any child. Unsupervised and basically the only restriction is. Pbs is allowed to leave the county for work in just a few things that people convicted or even out on pretrial release. They don't have those luxury for much lesser pieces than this one especially when you're suspected on being involved in such horrific child abuse case like to. It just seems like common sense that you would restrict that person's access to children absolutely. I mean he shouldn't be in the first place. But if you're gonna do that by the love of god Near anybody's children and i don't understand why was like had somewhere Be supervised. I don't even understand why was released. It again live. it's and how was his confession deemed. Not enough evidence like he confessed to those acts way he did that. I can't hear understand ernst. I'm just at a loss for words. They're announcing it was co worse so much but Like he was just both michelle. Were just agreeing to grow. The boy said no in the some some of that that was also some belief ignificant. Revelations made that were just horrendous maddening. i believe that he's retiring. This judge is retiring very soon. Yes twelve thirty one. Twenty not seen enough. Let's hope let's hope that replaces him at least as more willing to stand up for what's right for children in the state because it's clear that his his perspective is skewed absolutely. I think he's totally lost. Touch with reality and i wonder what he wants. They being around his grandchildren might don't think so. It's just absurd Only phoebe attorneys have requested. The case be dropped. Yes and they're saying he didn't get a speedy trial. Which now this case. As i showed you in just the amount of evidence and things to process there were hundreds of hundreds of crime scene photos. Autopsy photos said the cases so in debt because the horrific nature of it that it just seems like everything slips away here we thought the day ivanova's murder we found out. Three suspects were arrested in michelle fabian. Did like i said. Seven plus hours without an attorney present of interogations and that really alluded to a law of different things. And i think everybody's still in shock that now there's already been typically deals abraham lizard relief from jail to begin with and now he's the only condition he has. Gps which as we all know could be cut off at anytime and he could volunteer. Land redondo mexico's not very far away from here. Exactly very close. I'm hopeful that they will not allow this case to be dropped. But i also know what we're up against here in the state. Whatever you think isn't possible. Is one hundred percent possible absolutely. I don't think anybody could have imagined that people will get a plea deal and the third one would be set. Rian said the longer out the less his conditions are he's now while around any children unsupervised. I can never ever ever understand. Why in judge brown. I believe is really out of touch. I mean in a were him to say he's not a risk. What could be more risky. I don't understand that at all. It just doesn't make any sense even if he wasn't involved in the actual abuse which Which i believe is true but they but let's just say that he isn't he. Was there any help. Dismember destroy and cover up the brutal murder of child in others. Too many things that compare on that level at the very least we have destruction of evidence conspiracy to destroy destroy evidence Conspiracy to cover up a crime all these these. These are pretty serious. Charges yes absolutely. It's not like jaywalking or anything. This is brilliant and he has toys even if he didn't partake in the events prior to the tories of he had a choice. Right down there on the spot to either step into his cousins mess and helper dispose of it. Or just get the hell out of your Something he did nothing. It was complicit in all the aftermath for shore right which is at the very least negligence or a because you are a parental type figure in the situation. You're living with your girlfriend. Her daughters living with you. You may not be an actual parent that you are rental figure. You have some responsibility if jessica kelly's your babysitter. She has a responsibility now. She accepts that responsibility to take care of victoria. So even if the story about this strange man coming in happened while they're still responsibility there absolutely. And i just i don't buy it for one second. I'm sorry but in my opinion jessica was only out of prison for five days. She was under the influence of at least Admitted to she's tweaked out of her gourd. You think some chick that's out of prison for days is going to allow someone on have a murder. Committed the feet from her and she's going to stay in the house no. I'm not buying it at all. Yoda left in ocd is a she would've been like Risen belushi was involved. Exactly exactly him. The fact that she's agreed to a forty nine year plea hero. The pretty much tells me a lot right there will. It is more than life in prison. New mexico men. Fortunately it is that she to all of is for good time so she could be out in twenty some years as he said. It's coming up on the four year anniversary. So both her in the shell martin's already have almost four years time served. It's horrible it's horrifying and now we have this situation where the case could just be tossed out against fabien in a real possibility at this point it is. I hate to say that but it is. Yeah i i'm speechless. This whole thing is so frustrating to me. It doesn't make any sense. It seems like whenever it comes to cases like this our justice system for some reason can never get it right absolutely and i talked about this all the time on my show. This isn't a new problem. This has been happening for decades and decades may here. Welcome with waseda Thirty three years ago in Commute plug house or was it a confession evidence and this piece of trash charged held accountable. Still not acceptable is unacceptable by any any measures in. That's the message that is sent to these people right that you you can do this and you can get away with it pain and i'm going to do whatever i can in my power to make sure that changes in the state of need change. How many more children are we allowed to be. Victimized sexually physically abused beaten to death murdered and not so much the wave consequences. You know a lot of these people get holtz at some point. Many of them continue on but yet they were involved in before they got up. And that's that's one of the things that i've talked about consistently is these people don't change their behavior bay and when you're a child abuser when you're a child predator there's something lang with you absolutely whether it's chemical or mental or emotional. Whatever it is there something wrong way and and that doesn't just get fixed on its own. No it doesn't. It seems to be honest the once they if they actually go to prison. They just learn how to covered better and learn from past mistakes. What do you what not to do. It just seems like it's a revolving door. Yeah what's your take on michelle and her involvement in much. Were that michelle there. There's evidence that aren't baby. Were not in the apartment when and i'm as much as i don't like to I'm not sure that she was aware that victoria was murdered. Until the aftermath rate before nine won't look. I can't say for shore but it's looking like she may not have been yeah jessica's on words that they did fight it and didn't blow michelle to go into. Victoria's room or anything like that. I guess what's michelle went to bed. That's when they began to dismember destroyed to wipe away any trace of the coin themselves and e alleged fourth person. I don't buy a moment. Just unthinkable anna. What's the deal with this mystery. Dna the found and her bay they found a or low cut sample in a full at the i. Match they need thirteen so this so small. It was not semen so it can only skin cells saliva or perspiration now. The autopsy didn't show any dna on victoria. You'll only evidence founders trace besides sexual injuries or three hairs that were i think. Make winner leg or armed robbery. I have never heard who's hair that was however if it's any one of those three being role living there the right to know and so this. Dna is never ever enough to match anybody this case it could only plus we be used for the nation and even that relocated civil when you need. Thirteen isn't isn't going to cut it in. Oh yeah yeah so that. That's so confusing. It's hard to know without even as where it came from. Ashley a victorious shirt and not body as we've all been obese moon. We don't know you know there's been some things even our district attorney at us. they'll taurean. This was going to accept plea deals from anyone. Basically the most horrific case other cookie seen to mine lynch. It makes me wonder there had to be reason right. Like did he feel like he didn't have a winnable case. Did he feel like he didn't have enough. Is that why he decided to go. That route actually Totally sure but i do know if he secures a plea bargain. It's a win for him again in win win situation. Unfortunately you know we shouldn't be offering plead. Ills said that the moment i found out that michelle was opport- line i wouldn't have given anything plea deals ever and i think there's a lot things change with regard to the prosecution of these cases One of the biggest issues that i've discovered is that it's pretty common for a prosecutor to decide whether they're going to try case. Not and there's really no. There's nothing compelling them to do that so for example my brother's case i've have done this by several prosecutors and many of them will say i would have declined to prosecute this case in my opinion on that is that you really shouldn't have choice if it's an old. He's been abused. You should not have the option to opt out of that. Even if nothing should be brace eight we have mandated reporters. Why aren't you. As a district attorney mandated or justice or children will never understand that. This doesn't make any sense. Couple that with offering a plea deal on to somebody who is suspected of doing these things. It just doesn't make it doesn't make any sense and i feel like there needs to be tightening up of those things in the prosecutor's office in the laws in the state to make it so that it's not something you can get away with a slap on the wrist rate in a sing. It was sweeny seventeen. I helped promote a toria martin's deserved Was calling for mandatory one hundred and twenty years for anybody who murder such old and there is no law. Nothing else other than that. The roundhouse couldn't even agree on the at went up in eighteen twenty nineteen. They couldn't even agree to that. So it seems like you know. The problem stems much. Deeper than brown's the date whereas failure seems to be the politics in new mexico aren't giving justice it or victimized in children it's a systemic issue and it's pervasive it goes into every level of government an oversight and it may not intentional but the message of munity is getting is the data. Care bag zimmer state. that's such as sad as the children are future. What are you showing these children. We're not gonna believe you a disabled agrees and even do believe you. You may be reunited without Boyfriend relatives brand. Whatever the case on sometimes like you said they get on the wrist and they only learn how to cook next. Yeah or they get smart and they learn how the system works and learn how to play out when they learn how to do these other things that work to their advantage in and i feel like all of those loopholes need to be closed absolutely inning for prime. Maybe it makes sense to have those things. But i think for child abuse it just. It's such different circumstance. It's horrifying crime. It shouldn't be a question. There should be no question absolutely there. Should and it shouldn't be the out. Any real substantiated abuse. Sexual violence is violence a refighting. Were these children in. They're gonna be left with lifelong impact if they survive in essence your left and your mom and family with the repercussions of losing your abuse. Thirty three years ago. When i heard that it really touched me. I couldn't believe it Okay so this has been going on. He said greg bird enough is enough to stand up or kids if you are aware of abuse paladin. That's not snitching A whole different set of rules. And if it's not happening than we pope that way of de skill enough to know real claim in what's not really happening I know that mistakes happen and things like that. But it's still like it's your responsibility as a human being to look out for people who can't be for themselves who can't fight for themselves who have no choice. Who had no options for like your parents. Are everything even pave using even. If you're being abused you still like as a child. You still want that connection with your mom. You still want that connection with your day That's just natural so it's hard for a kid to stand up for themselves in those situations. Yeah it's very It seems like i said. Hold stay every aspect government in the district attorney in other areas Sledding or children down and it's words miserable failure skits are getting justice. We can never bring them back on. Do the damage that was done for them but then we got a hold the people responsible accountable and if you murder a child you should never be free again. Shouldn't even be question. I have mixed feelings about the death. Death penalty. I think in cases like this. It's justified. it's horrifying what they did to victoria. I i can't get over it and i can't. I can't believe that we're still here for years later and talking about this and i said nobody nate. The three suspects for additionally courage tastes like nineteen twenty one twenty two charges the michelle. Norton's video lifted one child abuse resulting in death. Just got plenty about six furthest eve rate murder cases went away in the kind of gave them on the lenient side of what we're hoping or in new mexico be a result it didn't happen and then we have fabien. Who knows what he's doing. Who knows who is hurting now. I don't believe that he is innocent in any way in the situation and i think he needs to pay any more children after die. Physically abused sexually abused. So we come together and say we're not taking this crap anymore in. We're gonna call them once you're found guilty that's it. You don't get a second chance immutable. We need a whole not only suspects accountable. But we need to hold our legislators accountable axel we need to hold. Our elected officials accountable. We need to hold. Cya fd accountable because every single agency has a part to play in this and so far in my lifetime. The of all failed. And that's unfortunate because those are supposed to be our recourse through justice and the people were protecting our children. There's nothing there in an empty weight. Were nothing is changing in. It's not getting better release is. Is there anything else. You wanna say to my listeners. Either about this case tour about anything in general say pay attention to your children your family and children and let them know that if something is happening them. They are two tone adjusted dope. Tell three of them tell until everybody can in hopes that somebody will step up and say this unacceptable and make the report said. I don't consider snitching if you're turning somebody in for child abuse smut an issue here. Nobody even the people committing crimes muslim under children in heard and especially victoria but so brutally murdered in dismembered inland empire what could be more horrific and on her tenth birthday things euro. It's just success is the worst possible situation. And i don't think i'll ever be over hearing about a like. I said it took me honestly i think per case coupled with a few others along with my brothers case motivating meted create this show. Because i feel like these stories a lot of people. Don't wanna hear the detail right and unfortunately by denying it or sweeping it under the rug isn't gonna create any change chains the better or jovan. Not it's a disappointment. He added pray now. If they're not getting any tests this year. Something that i say a lot on my show is what you ignore you allow absolutely and just because you're not speaking up about it doesn't mean that you're on the right side. It means that you're on the side of the people who are getting away with this. May your silence says or the you know late because it allows the abuse to continue where they're either going to have such a hard time mentally physically more. They're not going to be here. Like victoria is not here in her life was taken out one her temper birthday Who nobody's thinks that's acceptable in need to come together can touch the hell. You boat like. I said i would encourage everybody to watch your family. Your your child's family members their friends and be vigilant. Anything suspect that they're being abused. You can make the call anonymous. Eat like you said there checks and balances that hopefully an innocent person but wonders innocence. There is usually not evidence to cooperate. It i agree with you on all of that. I want to say before. We wrap this up. That i'm just very honored to have met you and i feel kind of connection to you. I'm grateful for you in all the work that you're doing to get the word out there to share these stories as horrific in his tragic as they are. It is so important to have somebody talking about this. Which is why. I decided to share my story because a mice mice islands also is in a way permitting this to continue to happen because of the shame. And everything else that you have gone through something like that It's important to to tell these stories because then it lets people know that are in the situation that they're not alone. This is more common than most people think. And as and that's horrible but but it's the reality and when you start to realize that we realized that we all have more in common than we think we can all work together to make a change you know and whether that means you know we've had enough end sick of these legislators and we're gonna run for office okay fine if that's what you wanna do than do it. 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eBay for Business - Ep 153 -  Trading Cards Price Guidance and Collections

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eBay for Business - Ep 153 - Trading Cards Price Guidance and Collections

"This week on ebay for business podcasts. Gosh by just kept that shoebox full of cards from when i was a kid but some of us did keep the shoebox full of cards when they were kids and those cards are worth something now. So it's it's a lot of fun and you're still seeing kids today it. It's the same thing you're you know you're chasing your heroes when it comes to sports and when it comes to collectible card games you're you're an active player of a specific game but that's something that's always going to continue as long as there are trading cards. I'm brian grit and this is ebay for business. Podcast you're weekly source for the information and the inspiration. You need to start running. Grow a business on the world's most powerful marketplace and this is episode one five three. Welcome back brian. It's great to be back with. Are you busy this week. Have you've been busy at work. We always talk about business. It is actually. I actually went into the office which has been a little bit new for me. You gotta reserve desk in all wear masks but it was nice being in the office. I ran into some folks that hadn't seen in all the while and so it was fun while brian. There's i checked. There's nothing in the ebay news this week so instead i thought we may be t's a few of the segment. Topics are on the docket for the last quarter of this year on the podcast health. That would be great. Yeah because i think the last news item we had with the recap from open on friday. That jordan put up this upcoming shopping season. We're going to cover a lot of topics. We usually cover these every holiday season. We're going to try to find a different angle for some of these for example shipping. We're going to spend some time starting today. Talking about shipping options. A lot of people don't consider for example freight. We're gonna talk about special options for things like packing and this comes to mind for me. Every week i get. I buy a lot of stuff on ebay and very rarely do i get something. That's under packed. But i get stuff. That's over packed. All the time. I could be an issue for buyers will also it happens too frequently from a seller. You're actually eating into your profit margins. Yeah you know that extra around the with tape three or four more times. That cost you money. i get things wrapped. I think the intentions are great but it is like trying to unwrap and addiction. Mummy and it's so tight like a bubble wrapped item. That has so much tape on it. That i have to go get a scalpel to open it. And there's always the risk. I'm gonna cut myself will at least you're not getting anything broken. I'm sure then when they pack him that while very rarely does something come broken. but sometimes i've come close to breaking my fingers trying to get stuff open so we're also going to talk about coupons. There's been some enhancements to that so he's scheduled at least one if not a few segments around coupons the perennial favorite promotions. Were gonna actually get some sellers to talk about specific things. They do to get promotions to work for them. In obviously everybody knows holiday season. Promotions are absolutely critical. Yes they are critical. We're going to have barbara wellman back. And she's going to talk about closing out the year. Two thousand twenty one and getting ready to start for two thousand twenty two which means we will get a question about in. Maybe you and barbara can answer it. When and where will. I get my ten ninety nine every year. Yeah well it doesn't come until two thousand twenty two usually in january february. But we'll talk about that as well and then finally we're going to have a three part series planned for october and it's gonna be about crafting social media marketing campaign so not just you know which channels do you use. And how do you use them. It's actually sitting down and creating then managing a whole campaign around social media marketing and this is what businesses do this is. What ebay does this is. What every business does just because you're small ebay seller doesn't mean you shouldn't do it either. Let's her great idea may not have as big a budget but you can still make it work for you. And it's it's like anything you want want to do it right. Our special guest will be guru and social media marketing expert and no stranger to some listeners. On the podcast. Yes it's true. She's coming back. Audrey tracy wonderful audrey great. Yeah can't wait and we'll have of course a lot of other stuff that we always do when talk about lots of sellers lots of sellers stories. I'm looking forward to the last quarter of this year which is coming up and by the way we also if you open slots in our upcoming episode so if you have a topic you'd like to cover here on the podcast feel free. Send it into us please. Podcast and ebay dot com. What a great idea. I think you probably will get a few requests topics. I'm sure i will. It'll be great to have some feedback. Hey brian i hope you have time to join me for a few seller questions. This week i will be there. What are the nautica where we have a question about opening a second ebay selling account the pros cons a question about how to get started with global shipping program and a question about shipping. Big stuff like furniture. Very interesting alsu at the end of the episode sounds good every now and then we liked to stop in talk with our good friend. Bob means who's the director of trading cards. And i thought this would be a good time. Because there's been some changes to the trading card features that we wanna talk about bob. Welcome back to the podcast is gonna be your drift thanks. What's new in the trading cards world. We've been talking about just pasted the business in general. It's been credibly strong last year and this year to date. It's also incredibly strong. Jamie announced two billion dollars in sales at the master earnings call and so in half a year. We did what we did a year ago. Which is a pretty amazing amount of volume to do all on trading cards. We see that surge happening and we see that surge continuing so it's been a lot of fun. Is this just a momentary thing. Because of the pandemic or we see this continuing. I wish i knew that but we keep thinking that moments happened keeps going you know i think there might be some really good ground underneath this and some really solid foundation. The other thing to remember is from a collectible perspective. The collectors were here years ago and they they will remain here whether there's some speculation involved nowadays the collectors there in the collectors always been there and so that's always been the foundation of business that we're feeling really good about it. This is not something that just became a collecting interest in the last two years. People have been collecting trading cards for decades. Now yeah that's right. I had trading cards as a kid. It's fun when you have this job. Dr somebody in almost all of us have the same story of gosh by just kept that shoebox full of cards from when i was a kid but some of us did keep the shoebox full of cards when they were kids. And those cards are worth something now. It's a lot of fun and you're still seeing kids today by it. It's the same thing you're you're chasing your heroes when it comes to sports when it comes to collectible card games you're an active player of a specific game but that's something that's always going to continue as long as there are trading cards. Tell us a little bit about what these to announce features for ebay trading cards. What it does for the platform and for buyers and sellers we've announced quite a few things and we've talked a little bit about this. Podcast know we came up with a chief shipping method. Call ebay standard envelope. Which cards under twenty dollars. We also came up with image scan. Currently that's just for collectible card games that allows you to use your phone to scan card and create a listing fee to get it up on ebay and the to new things that we've iterative on is we've released a beta version of price guide and collection and they're very closely related. But they're also kind of different and the reason why we're calling them beta is we've got a lot to learn to get them out to the market and figure out what the customers like about it. What they don't like about it and how we need rate on it. But i really liked the fact that we actually jumped forward on something that we didn't feel a hundred percent on got it out to people and let them tell us what needs to be improved about it but let me tell you a little bit about price. Guide price guides from a very simple perspective just helps us leverage all these years of data that we have on trading cards and quickly tell somebody what the most recent values. You're thinking about making a purchase on a card. You can look that card up and see what it's been doing how it's been trending. Maybe it's trending down and you think it's an opportunity to buy something. Maybe it's trending up and you think it's not going to get him before trends up any higher but it's like the stock market if you think of it that way and collection takes everything that you've purchased on ebay for. I think it's the last year at this point in it creates a digital collection for you and then it aggregates the value of that collection together. So that you bought ten cards. Those cards are gonna show up in your collection and the aggregated value of them is going to be shown up. And you can look at each individual card as well both of these huge steps forwards for the collector for investor for the flipper for whoever is interested in this right because one it helps you keep track your inventory in two helps you get ebays best in class data behind it to know what the value of your cards already. Anyone given moment. This will lead us to some really exciting innovations on this looking forward to how iterative on it and how we make it even better. I wish i had it for the things. That i collect. We'll be nice. And i think that's one of the things that we're really excited about is if we can figure out how to do this anyone. Who's a collector of anything would benefit from it. We've got to figure it out. We gotta get all the wrinkles. We've gotta understand how this works. Ebay is such a massive company. And there's been so many millions and millions of transactions. That's a lotta data. Try to pull back for people but in this day with clouds and all this we can figure out how to do it and maybe somewhere down the road. There's cost price guide in collection for trading cards. But right now we're just focusing that on that one category because it's just as explosive category is replace where i can go and actually see the price guide or see the collection feature in how it works. Yup i'm going to get a little nuance here. Price guide is a slowly evolving and growing thing when we launched it. We lost it based off of ten thousand or so. You heard someone like lebron. James would show up if you did a search and then eventually you'll get into place into a point. Where even very niche player. Somebody who might have had one year in the major leagues. Eventually we'll be in there eventually. Will we hope to expand its everybody but yeah the the simplest way to see it as the shop on ebay app go to trading cards and put in somebody who you know is a big deal for like from better term. Lebron will work kobe. Bryant's michael jordan from baseball perspective. If you throw mickey mantle in there you're going to get price guidance from a soccer perspective you throw lionel messi in there. You're gonna get guidance from a golf perspective. Heathrow tiger woods in there. You're gonna get price guide. It's right like if the person that you're looking for is in their currently we're going to keep flowing more information through the system so eventually we have very wide coverage of all of these players. Is this dynamic price guide or is this something it's like as database. It's gets updated every six months or something. It's dynamic so like for instance something jordan cards if you do lebron james. That's an incredibly broad search. You're not going to get the best results because there are still lebron james cards that you can buy for twenty five cents in there. Are lebron james cards. You can buy five hundred thousand dollars search. You're gonna get very broad results but as you narrow that down is the card that you're looking for tops number one. seven five. Two thousand twenty one prism green. Whatever the specifics are that you're looking for. That's where you'll start to get really narrow results again. Current it'll always be looking back over the last few sales and giving you a good reference point for what that trend line has been in immediate history. What about collections. Is there anywhere i can go and learn and see how the collection feature works and how it looks. There is a desktop version on my ebay. But it's optimized now for app so if you're on the app you go to ebay and you'll see digital collections. Show up sort of at the bottom under you know like messages on all of the all that good stuff. That's in your mind ebay. Recent sales recent purchase history. All that good stuff. It's down at the bottom of it digital collection again if you've bought cards in the last year probably populated with some information. There's no opt in or opt out or anything like that if you don't wanna use it don't use it but if you bought a card it's going to be there. We've also added a process through the desktop. Which is called a csv uploads really kind of a cool thing that we heard from some of our customers. There are people that have been tracking stuff for years. They might have an excel spreadsheet or google sheet or chicken scratch napkins stuffed into a drawer or something but people have their different systems and one of the things we wanted to enable was for people to get that information up into their collection as well. It can be a lot of work if you can. Just imagine this if you have thousand cards. And that's all in excel file. You can upload it really quickly but we have people who have literally millions of cards. That's a big big upload. I should say to get into the system. But we're working on it right now. We have a cap. And i'm not a hundred percent. Sure what the cap is. Were expanding that as well just like price guide. It's just we had to sort of contain all the bandwidth than all the storage and all that stuff we had to sort of contain it. And then we slowly expand and expand and expand. My goal is at some point that somebody could their entire collection of sports cards or collectible card games on the site backing against data so they can keep track of the value of it at any given time. You actually peaked my interest. I go buy some cards just to see how this works and griffin. I know a company that you can get some trading cards out here neetu. Hey we're going to keep checking in with you and we understand. I want to make this clear that both of the features price guide in collection in beta right. Now as bob says it's a learning process. Yeah i'm so happy that we put this out of beta just said look. We need your help figuring this out because it's so big. We're learning about people again with tens of thousands of guards. How do we keep all that together in one place but he head over to ebay dot com slash trading hub acts lashed. There is more information to read about. And then you can send feedback to beta feedback a dot com and we will read all of it. People that are involved in trading cards. They love to share their opinions. They don't hold back in. We don't want to hold back. We want them to tell us out of fix this and make this be the tool that they need in the future where we would need them to do it. You just send it to beta feedback at ebay dot com and bob and his team will see it. Bob thank you so much for stopping by talking to us about these new additions to the trading. Cards market on ebay. Thanks bob means is the director of trading cards at ebay. We've been talking about these new features specifically price guide and collections. And we'll put the links that we talked about in the episode transcripts of the you can check them out yourself joining us now. Is kirsty done senior seller social marketing and communications manager. She will share how sellers could get their hands on attend thousand dollars to power their business and also going to share some seller tips for prepping for the holiday season. Which you know. We're talking a lot about this month. Welcome back kirsty don. Having we've talked when teased a little bit about the reintroduction of this latest round of the up and running grants. But i wanna make sure as many people as possible apply. Because it's not hard to do and you're not gonna get the grant if you don't apply let's go through it all. What is the up and running grant program again. This is actually our second annual economic grant program. We have another round where continuing to give back to our small business salads really being powering america and continue to power america Fifty saleh's will once again be chosen to receive ten thousand dollars in cash. They also get salad. School training and access to a growth adviser were inviting all of our saleh's to apply for one of these grants. Do we really hope that the salads take advantage and apply again. We don't do this alone correct. We do this in partnership. Yes we did this. Partnership re palo allies so there were business acceleration sa help us. Run the the program when you apply you have to register to have an account with them. They really help us administered the whole grunts program because as you can imagine there's a whole bunch of things that come with grants program whilst we can very close tana shit with them have been successful last year. That's why we're bringing back this year by exactly. Yeah and like. I said it's just our dna and just being able to give back to those fifty saleh's being able to see them go through the school janney actually applying some of what they led to the business hearing stories about how they applied the grants that businesses. I just had from traung actually. I'm sure he won't mind me sharing. I know that you love toronto. Was one of our most popular guests we've ever had on the show. He was amazing. He's incredible while he's actually just about to released to new products which he's been able to develop thanks to the funding and the resources in the training that he got through the ground. How solar supply again. We have landing pages ebay dot. Hallo alice dot com. There's a grant application that we ask you to fill out. We want you to tell us what you need to grant full. How you're planning to use the grant how you run your business. Obviously if you want to know a bit about your business and how you want to evolve. Everyone can head on over to that. Applications coz on september fed at six o'clock eastern so. There's still a few weeks to apply. So we wanna get as many applications as possible you do have to be registered ebay salah Olivia listen aw out. What are some of the tips. Were gonna tell people when they're going through the process about what they should be keeping in mind to make their stand out. Yeah i think that's a really important question greg. We judge the applications based on. Obviously like i said the need for the funds as well as the plans of how they're going to use the funds the applications kind of split up this psalm which are more kind of background questions. Some basic questions on that business. We obviously want salads to be complete in truthful and accurate with how they met business while they sal why that passionate about it but then there's also mow long form narrative questions near the end of the application. Mrs why you have the ability to tell your story and to show your needs and set yourselves apart from the other applications seller and i was applying for this. I'm not because i can't isn't employees. What i desperately need is to completely redo my workspace which is currently my garage. And i would be putting in a grant application saying in order for me to grow my business. I really have to invest in my physical location. Might this ten thousand dollars will go a long way for helping me get this foundation to my business in place so that i can grow it. That would be what you'd wanna say not something like where we've been working so hard. We're looking forward to a las vegas vacation so this really help exactly how you can demonstrate that it's gonna be applicable to business and help you grow space that you have you might need to get storage space. You might want to expand you might want to get more inventory. You might be planning to pivot to new inventory. That's always a huge investment having to do that clay. Yes there's like a the funding can help you kind of dip your toes or try that. Tell us what your goals are and what you want to and this money on. So that's the up and running. Grant while i got year. I also wanna talk a little bit about holiday. Prep and we get our content from these sweepstakes that runs on the ebay for business. Facebook page the most recent one was prepping for the holidays and we have a little collection here that we can read through some of the best tips. Would you like to do that. I'd love to yeah. We have some really good advice from some of the salads and some other followers on our facebook page about what they're doing now to stock up and get ready for the holiday season great. So why don't you start. Well yes so. Ginny says listless and keep your eyes peeled for those christmas treasures when sourcing she says summit is prime christmas time for garage sales. So she's already out in about finding olivia christmas. Infantry holiday inventory calling focusing on getting as many things listed before quarter force starts now. That's really smart. I hired a few new workers. She says and stocking up on shipping supplies. And then alita says i'm cleaning up old listings to make them discoverable by the search engines. Perhaps high on the list of search results. So i guess she's spending some time in the summer to get pat listings in tip top condition so that very good music time. Julie says that she's researching. What's likely to be in demand and then streamlining relisting processes anything that makes business more efficient as a good thing. I and then marianne says soaking in organizing all the infantry purchased this yet and last year researching photographing writing up my descriptions. She says my shipping supplies a well-stocked in need to better organized. She says she listed new christmas in july items to get in the mood and she's looking forward to a great holiday seizing stock now. That's great amanda says. I have holiday cards. I'm starting to fill out to include with each purchase. So she's getting them all pre filled with you know handwriting out things on her cards that she puts each box very wise. Love that yeah. I love that because hopefully she gets so many styles that she needs to have hundreds thousands of these cards ready to go with such a small idea. That's a good tip. You wanna listen to next week show as a man does actually part of it. Tammy says i want to get everything from desk pile listed before i plunge into listing the two hundred plus holiday cds. I have in my to be listed q. I'm stocked up on shipping. Supplies s piles go there. Speaking of shipping. Our sellers prepping for the holiday. Shopping season. denise. She says getting ready for the busy season by ordering shipping supplies. She says don't forget to use your quarterly coupon. If you have a store you'd be surprised. How many people actually forget to do that. So you can use it any time during the quarter. If you don't use it the next coupon will show up for the quarter but you let a whole ninety days. Go by without getting free shipping supplies. So make sure you're always using those set a reminder in your calendar near the end of the cool sirens vermont just south have have. I used it. If you don't use it you can obscene people do this. If you overstock and you're no you're not gonna use them. You can always sell them on ebay. Colby says watching for shipping supplies and major deals on toys going on a lot of clearance happening right now in retail stores which leads to great things to put up on ebay. Smart i and then finally diane's has listed about half my halloween and christmas stock. getting ions out. I leave one every week left until holiday unless that to keep stock in category fresh. She says i'm loving. They assaulted bubble myla package and may just be what i owed with my coupon. Yeah you should always check the store out for the shipping vise ebay shipping supply store with your coupon because there's new things being added all the time. Make sure you check it out kirsty. I wanna thank you so much. Always great to have you here. I thank you for having me back in you. Ask reminds us to get you up. And running grants applications by september e- by dot hallo alles dot com absolutely kirsty. Done is senior seller social marketing and communications manager. Here at ebay we're calling ebay sellers who posted a tip in the ebay for business. Facebook sweepstakes boasts last week. We talked to ebay seller. Mary robbins about her holiday. Sourcing tip this week. We have an kalinski on the line. And thanks for calling in. Thank you for having me. I read your tip on the facebook sweepstakes contest and we thought we should talk a little bit more about that before we did. I went out and check your ebay store. You have a lot of stuff i do. I specialize in nothing. And i don't claim to know everything just a little bit about everything enough to be dangerous. Do you source differently for the holidays or i should ask do source for the holidays. I year round or the holidays. I do a lot of collectibles in vintage items as well as some new more modern. What i do is primarily auctions. I don't do a lot of rummage sales and estate sales. I like to buy in volume. Because when i buy in volume i can buy at better prices and that then the key to my success. It doesn't work for everybody but it does work for me in a number of others that i know and we'll put a link to your ebay store in the episode. Transcript for episode one fifty three so that people can check out your store. It is really diverse. I mean i'm used to seeing sellers with a diverse line of merchandise. Yours is about as diverse. i've ever seen. I have talked to a lot of people that ask you know. How do you decide what to sell. I don't know what i'm going to sell tomorrow. Every state is very different when you go to auction. Sometimes it's a number of estate in personal products and i don't claim to know everything about that item but research is key and when pricing if you can buy right you can celebrate. I'm a firm believer in free shipping. And i know that the very hot controversial topic but after you've done this for a while you learn your boxes and your weight and just build it in your price. If somebody is searching on ebay using free shipping as a qualifier. many items aren't going to be seen if it's not being offered. Yeah that's true although it's mixed collectibles. I think he's still have an advantage. If you take the shipping out of the equation for the buyers than they don't have to think about. How much is this really cost. And it's just one price and they know what that price is. Oh my heavens odd looking at your listings. And i found. I know it's a woman's hat. And i know it won't fit me but darn it's my favourite colour. It's the woman's bullman hat. It's dose skin. Felt citation green. Ooh it's fabulous walker. Marie need item. I want that hat. I want that at won't fit me. I have to shrink my head. I don't think that's basel. It's been tried walk for good. Enure they don't on me unfortunate rate and if you had to give your advice or talk a little bitter extrapolate on the tip that you provided to the facebook page for ebay business. What would you tell us seller when it comes to sourcing holidays. Matthias retail has changed so dramatically through the years and it will continue to change buyers. Don't know what they're looking for until they find it and the key to to my success is a vast inventory of different items people. Oftentimes don't know what they're looking for. Sometimes they'll go on and they'll search for something specific in a certain category and stumble across an item and they didn't realize they needed it until they can't or it triggers a memory. And that's the key to what i do is their grandma had it or they had one as a child. I hear from buyers all the time through email. I had a teddy bear recently that this young lady had it was purchased by her grandmother for her but she had one in foster care growing up and through the years it had gotten lost or misplaced and she was struggling going through a really hard time in her grandmother looked up. Kazoo was the the teddy bears name and found it. There was no others on ebay and had actually been in my inventory for quite some time and it was that memory that triggered it and she bought it sent a tour and she said her granddaughter was just in tears static because that there was her comfort growing up and now she was struggling again and it was a comfort item. What a great story. It is true to memories. they trigger a lot. Sometimes when you're searching on ebay. I've never owned this hat but i want the memory that i once wore it. Maybe in a different life fun doing you know and that's the key with ebay is when you're doing it. He loved what you're doing thrilling out work. I agree with you. One hundred percent and i'm sure there are thousands of sellers who do as well will and i wanna thank you very much for coming on and giving us your tip and continued success to you in a very profitable holiday season as well. Banking pool selling an kalinski. Ebay store is granny. Annie's addict will put the link to her store in the transplant. For episode one fifty three. You can find this an all episode transcripts at www dot ebay dot com forward slash podcast. Just click on the link for the episode. You're searching for in this case. It's one fifty three. And then click the link for transcript. All of the links are at the top. You have a tip you wanna share with your fellow ebay sellers. Send us an email to podcasts. At ebay dot com and include your phone number so we can call you back and talk to you live. You got questions. We got answers. Brian is back. thanks brian. why pleasure graph. I've looked through the three questions for this week. And i think i'm ready to help. Answer them excellence. So why don't you read the first one then go k. Our first question was sent to us by ebay seller. Michelle who right. Hi i just discovered your podcast. From the ebay open and had been plowing through the episodes. I have been selling mainly apparel on ebay since last year. I'm helping my mother-in-law downsize and she has given me a lot of great collectibles homegoods in art to sell with the profits going to my kid's college fund. What a great idea. What a great mother-in-law. Should i set up a different store with these items or would that get too confusing. I just don't want to mix my inventory with hers. If i do open a second store. How would that work on the app. Thank you so much. Michelle sas one. Sassy lady is user. Id well thanks. Michelle o. rien. It's time for the old pros and cons mostly cons in my view of opening a second or third ebay store. Yes this is a perennial question. michelle there are not so many benefits to opening a second ebay store and a lot of obstacles. For example you'll have to open a new ebay account for the second store exactly and that new account will have to have a unique user. Id and email address associated with it and that account will also be subject to the same listing restrictions that all new accounts have for example you will be limited to listing only a few items at a time to start and although you can always ask ebay to raise your selling limits for that account. There's no guarantee that they'll grant your request and you'll have to manage to separate accounts that means to separate loggins and that's for all channels mobile and desktop. Yeah another concern with two separate accounts. You won't be able to use any of the promotion managers features of either of them to cross promote between the two separate inventories. That might not be a concern to michelle though. Yeah i guess but hey anything that helps so either. Inventory is a good thing. Promotions could be a sales booster. Correct the other thing. I thought of graph if someone's browsing through her store they won't see the other inventory as well right and maybe she feels. It's not a good mix but think of it from a buyer's perspective. It actually may be good. Mix if it's because she wants to keep bad inventory separate for bookkeeping. She can do that. But let's talk first about the benefits. Michelle the benefits honestly. I don't think they're really harney benefits from having two separate accounts. Yeah you can keep the inventory separate that way. But i just don't see that this is in the sesame because you don't need to accounts to accomplish this you can indicate for example your mother's inventory in your store you're you know you're selling with a note in the customs label field. Maybe you say you know moms or something you can use and then you can use that field to find in filter all of her inventory in your payments report for your single account. That's a really good idea greg. So michelle our recommendation is though you can indeed open a second account to sell your mother. Stuff is not really worth the hassles of starting and managing a second account especially for a limited amount of inventory. And we're talking about you know thousands of items. Maybe but even then you can keep your inventory separate in your bookkeeping if that's important. You don't need to rely on a second account to keep them separate for bookkeeping purposes. We hope this helps michelle. Thanks for including your shipping address by the way where shipping mugs out this week so keep an eye out for yours. Our next question is about shipping ebay seller. Suzanne sent the following to podcast ebay. Dot com alot. All i've been kicking around the idea of expanding my ebay selling to include furniture in larger items thought of packing and shipping them. Sounds incredibly daunting and problem beyond my capabilities somewhere. I heard that. I can sell larger items but have the buyer take care of the packing and shipping by a third party. If i miss this somewhere and my searching lease put me on the right track. Thank you suzanne. Shearman on ebay. She's distill think antiques interesting name. Thanks suzanne the vast majority of sellers with the occasional big item. They tend to list it for shipping. They just say local pickup only know shipping buyer has to come and pick it up in one of the pros to that. There are no worries about packing crating shipping right but there are few cons because local pickup only drastically cuts down on your potential buyer base but for some big items local pick only make sense things like sofas or tables appliances etc and we mean those big furniture and appliance items. That don't have a collectible interest. That's a good point. A huge contemporary sofas best listed with local pickup only with no shipping. But you know a designer name for example. Let's say an names or annul mid-century modern sofa that's worth quite a lot of money that should be made available to a wider audience in order for it to realize it's true price and if it realizes its true price. I'm sure she would not mind paying for the shipping right. But there's an option to that there is. There's there's always the freight option exactly ebay shipping policy feature has options for selecting something called freight which you can use or large and or heavy items and we also have a long list of national freight carriers that provide tracking for you to upload to your orders. The one thing. Is there some work to be involved in anything that you do for freight before you list that big desirable item you would determine which of the recognized free companies are in your area then you would have to get a list of their rates based on size weight in destination in the example of that eam so far that we were talking about the freight company would come out you would give them measurements and they would tell you how big the crates going to be an actually. They may provide creating as part of their service. So you don't have to do anything except f- over some money they do all the work. And on ebay any seller who provides afraid option for shipping can then use that information they get from the freight company to set up their own ray tables based on the information provided for example your freight company might have different rates based on where in the us. The item is going and they would give you that information. And then i'm gonna put a link by the way where you can see. These rate tables have good idea. And then you can create the rate tables for your afraid options and then select those as a policy and we're gonna get there too because once you have that information and you created your rate table you can then apply it to any item so that when a buyers get their invoice. They'll see the freight charge. They're clear as day and it also being your listing based on your ray table based on their location in the united states. Though see a cost that they'll have to pay for freight shipping both a really good point. Another concern. most freight companies will also come and pack and create a large item that you have contracted with them to ship. There could be an extra charge for creating service. Yes but that you can. If you know it beforehand you can add it to the listing and the policy so it shows up on the invoice as a handling charge which will be baked into the price. So you can include that as a handling charge when you list the item. Good idea all this information is probably only worth considering if you're gonna list big items continually or if they're really valuable you know if you're planning to only list a few big items now and then and they aren't valuable antiques. Collectibles or like high value goods like air conditioners that are sold out in most markets than stick local pickup only also keep in mind that with local pickup. Only you will have to meet the buyer to complete the sale. That means the buyer comes to your place of business. If your place of business is your home you may want to arrange to meet the buyer in a safe location. Many local police departments provide a safe trading place in the parking lots. Something consider the other thing. I heard sellers will meet in front of a bank because there's lots of cameras in front of the atm machines. Oh that's a good point now. There are two pages on ebay that have lots of information. You're going to need for helping you to set up shipping with afraid option. If you decide to go that route and will provide their links in the transcript for episode one fifty three now. Our last question was sent to us. Podcast that ebay dot com and brian went. You read this one sherve. Hello my name is karen. And i'm originally from colombia. i've been selling on ebay for the past five years starting with my personal account and now upgrading it to business. I would like to start to ship items to my country and other places around the world. And i've been very into the global shipping program. Please guide me with information about how to start to dive in. I would really appreciate it. And i would also love to receive the muck we definitely can get you the mug and that's from ebay seller account. Cs liquidations will. Thanks karen for that. Using the global shipping program can be easier. You only need to set up a shipping policy to include the option for dsp or or what we call the global shipping program. Yeah in fact. If you have a current shipping policy set up one or more you can choose one and you can edit one or more to actually add the global shipping program as an option for them so either way it's easy to get your shipping policies. Go to your account in seller hub. So that's https golan forward slash four slash www dot ebay dot com for slash ford slash w and click on the listings tab at the top. Then look for the business policies on the side bar on the left. Once you're in the business policies page look for the edit create new options for shipping policies and follow the instructions from there in. that's it it couldn't be easier. there's really nothing else to it. Karen wants an item is listed global shipping program as an option it will appear and searches by buyers across the world. If one of them buys your item you'll be instructed to ship it to an address in kentucky where are big warehouses and ebay takes it from there. You're only responsible for getting the item to that kentucky address and if you're using even a printer labels the label will have that address right on it. Slap it on ship it. And that's the last you have to worry about and will provide links in the transcript for this episode. That have more information for the ebay global shipping program. Now we hope that answers your question karen and we'll send you a mug in the coming weeks. Do you want any babe for business podcast mug. Who wouldn't if you do. 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Abortion, Surveillance, and Vigilantism : An American Story

Amicus with Dahlia Lithwick

1:02:38 hr | 3 weeks ago

Abortion, Surveillance, and Vigilantism : An American Story

"People would say this is just simply alarmism. This is extremism to compare this historical moments in the past. No it's not. It's that those historical moments in the past were in fact extreme. It's not our articulation of them. That's extreme toward making abortion inaccessible. To vast swabs of this country has been happening ever since roe was decided and there has been people who are not surprised by this who have been working against that trend and those are the people who are being targeted by this long. Hi and welcome to amicus. This is late. s- podcast about the courts. Then the law and the supreme court and the rule of law and i am with weak and a cover the courts for sleet and today. We're going to bring you an off week special episode to discuss the order. That was just handed down right before midnight on wednesday night up holding a really novel. Texas abortion law this law. We've actually talked about it on the show before is known as sba effectively bans all abortions. After the six week of pregnancy many many women do not know that they are pregnant at six weeks of pregnancy. There is no exception. For rape and incest governor greg abbott signed. Sp eight into law in may and of course the trick behind the law is that unlike similar deliberately unconstitutional abortion bans. heartbeat ends. What have you. Sba doesn't allow any state actors to enforce it there in fact prohibited from enforcing it instead literally everyone else. Any american anywhere is empowered is in fact conscripted to bring civil lawsuits against either an abortion provider. Or anyone who quote aids and abets those terms. Go undefined on abortion. That could include your counselor. Who talks to you about your options or the uber driver who drops you off at the clinic. Look the law is unconstitutional. Texas is well aware that the supreme court precedent sets the bar for abortion bans at viability. That somewhere between twenty two and twenty four weeks but this law was deliberately crafted so that there is no state actor and thus nobody for an abortion provider to take to court to try to get injunction one other thing if an abortion provider is sued in state court under sb eight. And they lose well. The winning party not only gets bounty of ten thousand dollars possibly more. They also collect. Attorney's fees providers in this case tried to sue a whole bunch of defendants including judges and others who will presumably be tasked with enforcing this law. This case was proceeding to trial in federal court until the fifth circuit stepped in to. Just stop it. The providers then took the case ironically to the supreme court on monday and the court ordered briefing on tuesday night at midnight. The law went into effect and posts. Six-week abortion stopped in texas now according to the providers who are suing to block. Sba at least eighty five to ninety percent of abortions in texas take place after that six week of pregnancy all of those abortions are now illegal under sp eight. The court remains silent as the low in into effect the website the nineteenth described the scene at the whole women's health clinic in fort worth as the clock ticked down to midnight and clinics. Dr sadler prepared to close the doors quote. One young woman arrived at her first appointment to the clinic that same night. She was a drug user. She told sadler set to begin serving a five year prison sentence in a week. She already had three children at home. She didn't want to deliver a baby in jail. She dropped to her knees on the cold floor in front of sadler begging her to take her to perform the abortion so wednesday was a long day of waiting for signals from the supreme court and just before midnight. The order finally came down five justices in one. Long paragraph unsigned announce that texas could continue to enforce its ban because it was unclear who the plaintiffs could sue and whether they could prevail at trial all dissenting justices including chief justice. John roberts expressed shock that an unconstitutional law would be allowed to stand in texas. Based on a cursory glance on the shadow docket justice sotomayor spoke for many us when she wrote this quote. The court's order is stunning presented with an application to enjoin flagrantly unconstitutional law engineered to prohibit women from exercising their constitutional rights and evade judicial scrutiny. A majority of justices have opted to bury their heads in the sand last night. The court silently acquiesced in a states enactment of a law that flouts nearly fifty years of federal precedents. Today the court belatedly explains that it declined to grant relief because of procedural complexities of the state's own invention in quote. It is truly hard my friends to overstate the enormity of what just took place on the shadow docket. My guest today are here to help us understand both the legal and constitutional issues at play the ways in which history seems to be folding back upon itself and the very immediate implications for women in their health. These two women are guiding lights in my own thinking and i should also note that they are each speaking to us in transit. So my apologies in advance for the imperfect quality of today's audio. Michelle goodwin is chancellor's professor of law and director of the center for biotechnology in global health policy at uc irvine school of law. Her book policing the womb came out last year from cambridge university. Press professor goodwin is also a committee member of the aclu and host of the podcast on the issues with michelle goodwin. rebecca trae. Stir is a writer at large for new york magazine. She has written about women from a feminist for the new republic l. salon. She's contributed to the nation the new york observer of the new york times and the washington post. She is also the author of all the single ladies and the award. Winning big girls. Don't cry and most recently. The author of the phenomenal book. Good mad rebecca michelle. Welcome to the podcast michelle. Let's just start with spa. I guess. I laid out the gist of it in my introduction but you wrote in ms magazine that this kind of citizen attorney gen role. Vigilante law has a long pretty sordid history that harkens back to the fugitive slave acts. Can you talk a. Can you talk a little bit about the ways in which this really chimes in the key of some very very ugly american history. I thank you for having me on your show. Dalia and yes. This does hark back to some very dark american history and dark american history that has been supported through the united states supreme court so the fugitive slave act provided for citizen participation in the establishment the furthering the preservation of american slavery. It weaponized citizenry a deputized citizens to surveilled to stock to apprehend people who were in violation of us laws by escaping themselves out of Slavery out of an inhumane situation. There were bounties that were provided for their success in surveilling and successfully apprehending obtaining individuals Who dared to exercise liberty autonomy and freedom. And when you think about this texas law there are certain analogues that eerily resemble that of the fugitive slave act in that it provides for a right of action of private citizens it provides for financial renumeration of those citizens who are able to successfully peg Someone who has aided or abetted an individual in obtaining abortion and what this means with the law written in such broad terms in this could implicate. The uber driver the lift driver. The us driver The receptionist that works at an abortion clinic virtually anybody who has been in the way of the path of a person exercising the constitutional right to terminate a pregnancy. What's interesting about the law. Dalia is that After roe v wade there was planned parenthood v. casey and what comes out of there is that there should be no obstacle placed in the path of a woman and terminating a pregnancy and texas has flipped that on its head Which instead you may sue anybody who aids in a person on the path of terminating a pregnancy it is very dangerous law and it is very dangerous in alarming. What has happened at the supreme court and rebecca. You have been writing about Women and their bodies And their atonomy. For certainly as long as i've known you and i want to caveat this that you're not a lawyer and don't pretend to one. I wonder if you can talk just for a minute about the fact that for decades after casey. Michelle just talked about. Casey abortion opponents. Wood frame their support for abortion bans in terms of deep solicitude for maternal health wanting vulnerable women to make better choices just having better abortion facilities deeply deeply wanting to be connected to a health system that loved and cherish them. Boy did that. Turn on a dime right well. That rhetoric has always been just absolutely hollow from the start as both of you know and thank you for having me. I couldn't be more honored to be talking with both of you. Both of your work is so fundamental to my own and understanding how this works. Because i am not a lawyer. The first thing. I would say that you know the ara of solicitude for for women's health and bodies and wellbeing and the always infantilized protectionist approach of You know political and judicial limits on women's freedom and autonomy as somehow for their benefit. That was always a lot right. That's always a hollow lie And it's just another framing of how to prevent women from fully exercising their rights and experiencing access to a full undignified existence in this country You know sort of socially civically economically legally sexually. That's always how that stuff has been denied and so the fact that they would turn on a dime. I don't you know sure because it was always. It's always it's always a false fronts. but interestingly listening to what michelle is talking about in terms of the vigilanteism aspect of this and the kind of payoffs bounty payoff truly bounty hunter payoffs being offered in texas right now. One of the things that i can't stop thinking about And that i've been rolling over in my had the past couple of days. Is that a law like this. Which is so strange and has these deep historical roots. That michelle is describing. But it's you know feels like wow ten thousand dollar bounties they are targeting the very people who have seen us building toward this for decades and have organized to protect people from its impact so in fact there have been limits on access to abortion especially for poor women and for black and brown women for decades basically ever since was decided thanks to the hyde amendment which is a legislative kreider that prevents anybody who receives federal insurance money from using that insurance to get abortion thereby making abortion all but illegal anyway in this country but there have been. Many people have remained asleep to this right. This has been true. Abortion has been accessible in huge parts of this country for years and decades and yet people still satisfy themselves and go to sleep easily at night thinking. Well there's row protecting us right. It doesn't actually work to protect millions of people who need abortions out there rights but the people who have understood that are the activists in the abortion fund movements in the reproductive justice movement who have been organizing over years to provide ways for women who've been cut off from that access to gain better access to help them raise the money to pay for procedures that they might not be able to afford to help them at travel and let them up in places that have mandatory waiting periods or to get them out of areas where there's no clinic or care available into areas where they can get an abortion. There are people dedicated righteous activists and people who have worked their whole lives to do the very thing to support people who need to get abortion care but have been prevented from doing so over decades. Not just starting two days ago but over decades this law takes aim at does systems of support those activists. The ones who've been awake this whole time and have been working to stave off exactly this kind of this kind of restriction and this kind of putative cruelty it's bills the activists the people who've known this was coming but this law targets by saying that they themselves are now being made vulnerable. Then dave themselves are going to be the subject of vigilantism and bounty andrew for doing the righteous work of supporting the people who need the care that they've been barred from and that's something that i can't stop thinking about because yes. This has been a decades long project for many many people. And there is i i see in the coverage of it. The sense that this came on us by surprise it happened overnight and the dark knight and all true in terms of how How the courts do it did it. And how how supreme court did it. But but the move toward making abortion inaccessible. to vast swaths of this country Has been has been happening ever since roe was decided and there has been people who are not surprised by this who have been working against that trend and those are the people who are being targeted by that by this law. Which is the thing that i sort of. Can't stop going over in my head all day today. rebecca. I'm so glad you said that. One of the reasons that you and michelle were my top picks for talking about this today is that i think both of you are people who are completely unsurprised by the decision by what happened and the speed with which it happened. Because both of you are people who've been shouting from the wilderness for a very long time that this was coming michelle. There are so many problems with this law. Including and i really want lift up. What rebecca just said that. I think it partly intends to isolate women from the networks of people who could advise and care for them. But i wanna really focus in on the fact that the supreme court shoes to chose to let this bill stand on the basis of a really hyper technical jurisdictional argument and i wonder what it signifies to you that this was disposed of in this kind of back of the napkin. Unsigned order in the middle of the night on the shadow. Docket even as there's a fifteen week. Mississippi abortion ban case teed. Up to be heard this fall. This could have been six three on the regular docket with regular briefing and regular argument and none of that happened. Why well what this does is it. Shows a disdain In many ways for the lives of those who are affected by this texas law now in this dispatch of less than seventy two hours of thought. Which is what justice. Kagan said the majority which is a conservative majority ultimately aided in gutting roe v wade in the state of texas and to your point they did so on this technical ground now if one is to believe that this was the only choice that the supreme court had then we'd have to believe that centuries of jurisprudence mean nothing including marbury v madison all of the supreme court cases early on centuries ago that established the supreme court the supreme arbitrator arbiter of the land and so one can't take seriously the quirks failure to intervene in this case. And i think justice roberts dissenting opinion. The case makes that very clear where he really shreds in many ways his conservative cohorts in the court Making clear that of course they could have intervened and of course justice. Soda meyer ish. A very compelling descent. As i mentioned justice kagan did as well but what this allowed was for the supreme court the majority To come away with clean hands. I in that they make no argument as to the constitutionality of the law. So they get to appear as if their own priors were not somehow on display in their views old to impose an injunction in this case as rebecca mentioned. This is a long time in coming. And so as we look at the jurisprudence that's been articulated dissent by these Justices as we look at their private leading such as justice. Amy coney buried this advertisements that she has signed onto this each's that justice alito is given the dissension currencies. Coming from a justice. Clarence thomas that this too has been victorious moment for them and let's be clear that this is part of a very well oiled machine and part of this machine has been the lifting of the federalist society that has played at enormous in fact an outsized role in who sits on the bench today. Let's be clear that there are a number of movements to come together to put us in this particular space. The decades long antiabortion movement which has been well oiled and well funded with some of the sharpest legal minds. Paid a lot of money to help along this bain and we see that in the mississippi case we see that in the texas legislation here that movement has also affected who sits on the bench as well. What donald trump was in office as president. He was able to nominate more judges to the federal bench than any other president saved. George washington Most of those judges that he nominated were already filtered through the most conservative filter. Ever those are people who are on the court not fifth circuit as well and so we can't see the supreme court's involvement is just simply isolated isolated from their involvement in social groups. We can't see what texas the legislature did as isolated from the broader movement and even isolated from mississippi. In these other states this has been a deeply coordinated movement that has taken foot and in that way. No it's not surprising. A what these conservative justices just did and these are the warnings that rebecca has issued that. I've issued in a book at across many many different law review articles and this is a complete disregard as well for the health and safety of the people who are most affected by this. Let's remember that in two thousand sixteen and whole woman's healthy heller stat justice briar out served in this was based on a robust durable record from the district court and from science and evidence through empirical research that person's fourteen times more likely to die nationwide in the united states by carrying pregnancy to term them by terminating it. Now let's add what that looks like in texas where the maternal mortality rate is considered amongst the worst not just in the united states but in the entire developed world and then let's add on the layer race. It's chew because nationwide a black woman is three and a half times more likely to die than white women who carry pregnancies to term but when we look at taxes in certain counties and districts in texas those percentages dramatically multiply so in many ways it is not extreme to say it all that for some a there was already a death sentence by a coercive means of forcing them to carry pregnancies to term that they did not want and that were dangerous to their health. What taxes is shown. Now is a complete disregard for that and let's be where the statistics on return war talapity coming out of texas are coming out of the texas department of health and safety. These are not ones that are big made up by pro choice groups or anything of this is texas is owned data about how deadly it is to be in texas and to be pregnant and the data from that is actually sadly not much different than the infant mortality rate in texas it would be great if the texas legislature prioritized attention to that the fact that they don't reveal incredible disdain in the for the lives of the people who can become pregnant. We'll be right back. Is something preventing you from achieving your goals. What interferes with your happiness. Checkout better help dot com slash amicus. Better help will assess your needs and match you with your own. Licensed professional therapist connect in a safe and private online environment. It is so convenient. You can start communicating in under forty eight hours better. Help is not a crisis line. It is not self help. This is professional counseling done securely online. 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We're talking to now for season to fill brim ceo asper web smith founder to enter fast. Heather hasson trina sphere co founder. Ho ceo crew sock kohner lower carbon capital okay. Ceo here sheets. This conversation shop defy plus. And i want to be really clear that we are talking to michelle in a hotel room rebecca in her car. We briefly lost rebecca for a second there but rebecca. I wanna ask you a version of the very same question. I asked michelle. Which is is there any way to take this late night order. That doesn't even as michelle noted pretend to grapple with the constitutionality of row and casey the merits of the case. But instead just bats it away and says oh well. I guess there's nothing to be done. We'll consign the women in the second most populous state in the country. To having the kinds of outcomes michelle's been describing. There's a kind of sloppy carelessness about it. That feels to me really profoundly different from the urgency. We heard from the justices even on the shadow. Docket maybe especially on the shadow docket when the people coming to them with exigent concerns wanted to pray in cova together or wanted to execute somebody on death row or wanted to as we saw last week reinstate the remain in mexico policy those things. Those exigent concerns are seen as so visible and so urgent to the justices. This felt like really really profoundly different. And i guess i wanna ask you what asked michelle which is is there some explanation for why they wouldn't just sit back. Take the mississippi case. Have it come out six three fill with the doctrine why it feels like this notches back of the napkin but back of the hand. It's so interesting because that's actually. You mentioned that. I was in the car and i. I hope that. I because my audio did go out that i'm not going to repeat anything that michelle just said or not engaged with it substantively. But i didn't hear parts of her answer but it's what my family has been debating in this car ride this entire day. That question that you posed. Why didn't they just wait right. And and i can't pretend to know the answer. They could have done it. And you write this in your in your column. They could have done that. Chint stroking we're taking this very seriously And they chose not to do it. Uae one answer is almost certainly just pure disdain and disregard for the kind of people they imagine need abortion and. We know that all kinds of people need abortion. We also know that certain people will always have access to abortion You know wealthy people white people With with money and means and the protection of the system and elite systems that will protect that right but but the messaging of this including as you say this just been delay. The lack of urgency That they didn't he didn't do this decision a night before. It's like it's below. There is below their concern right. You know adam were wrote so much. W- with regard to the trump administration was brilliant observation. That i think was incredibly vivid and descriptive the politics of the trump administration. The cruelty is the point right that there is a message power. There's a message of domination In showing your disregard in your disdain and this is not important right and and that's part of what my guess is about why they did it. it certainly an issue. That's important too many of them right. We know that abortion is important to amy conybeare. We know that abortion is important debris cavanaugh. We know that the That this is not something. They are not interested in And so and and i can't answer dahlia. I don't. I don't have a great about why they did this from a lay person's perspective who doesn't i don't have the kind of legal background that you and michelle do i think. Wow it feels like this is actually undercutting the court itself and and precedent. Even if it's precedent that we may guess they're eager to overturn right. And i believe they are eager to overturn it and And i have suspected that they would for a long time but to say like we're not even going to bother to to uphold this federal law that that was made by our body by the supreme court feels to me to be self Diminishing in some way. And i am confused by it and this is the conversation we have been having in the car but we also know that this project and this may be what i heard. Michelle talking about The years of organizing from an antiabortion movement. There's also been years organizing by republican party To put a court in place That would take all of the disdain For for reproductive autonomy and and reverse row or make it functionally meaningless Take away Fully take away the rights and access to abortion care to full healthcare And this has been a mission of republican party and we've known it and it's happening through state legislatures right and conservative movement. That was obsessed with taking over state legislatures to excellent effect that you have state legislatures that come up with these wild laws like the one in texas To taking over the supreme court you know and as supreme court see that was that was held hostage by mitch. Mcconnell in the last year of obama's term to a senate been through a replacement for for repeater ginsburg in in the last days of donald trump's administration. The tea party that this is all been sort of in the cover of night stuff. That was just barely under the surface of the republican party for decades. It was the rise of the tea party. That said it was all about you know economic conservatism and being worried about taxation but in fact just got into power. ten years ago inserted voting different planned parenthood. Every week i mean literally what the tea party cared about and yet we also had a press. That didn't acknowledge that at the time. Political press that kept saying no. No this is this is about taxes and actually like speak to that point rebecca because the press that traditional press that you talk about what was also frustrating is that you see this kind of uptick between two thousand ten in two thousand thirteen traumatic between that time. thirteen more antiabortion anti reproductive rights. Laws that are proposed and enacted the thirty years prior and. This is during the time. That barack obama as an office and there are reporters who kind of you know. Framing this time of the tea party as well. This is just all politics. And they're divorcing it from the importance of race and being part of this discourse and the ability to use race weaponize racism weaponize white supremacy in ways that at that time there were reporters talking about. We were post racial. How wonderful it is never black president. Business the new coming of america and there were those like you like me and that other people were saying no look at what this represents. This actually dangerous. What's taking place and sadly it's taken a while for traditional news media to catch up. It's taking a really. I mean as part of a traditional news media right. I can and who have been told so many times over you know i guess. Now i've been writing about this for a couple of decades and let's been told over and over again some version of you're being hysterical if you think this is. What's going on right run-ins back. That is certainly. You're so right about how the right used barack obama's presidency and the kind of Though though will sleeping that it engendered in in on the left and the liberal l. Absolutely pattern south on the back and say look what we helped to do right. I mean it's ho- stray shaw right and post. Racial was white liberals celebrating themselves and saying look at what we did. We got rock obama in the white house while being asleep at the wheel on all of these other funds and to be clear that the democratic party has played a really crucial part here too and encouraging that sleep. Pull in right. Is that a word. I'm very tired You know the the democratic party has refused if the press refuse to acknowledge what the right with doing. In in building its power in state legislatures in in taking over the court in moving in this direction. The democratic party that was theoretically supposed to be on the side of reproductive rights and autonomy has absolutely refused to fight for them. Up until as recently as the amy conybeare permission hearing where nobody wanted to have the fight because the democratic party has has absorbed and inaccurate incorrect. Message find abortion nikki and i would argue that that is because they find because there is an assumption that anything having to do with women's autonomy And human full and equal human thriving. Is he right to allow people But the democratic party has not brought under despite the fact that the legality of abortion is actually one of the most broadly popular issues in this country. Even in red states. people depressed again would. Have you believe that the country is irrevocably divided on right that it's fifty fifty. Nobody's ever changing their mind. But in iraq good smart holing over the past decade has shown that that is a myth seven people even in purple and red states want abortion to remain legal in some form and the democratic party despite having that very good strong evidence in front of them has refused to fight for abortion rights for better abortion act. That's joe you know. This administration is the first time since the nineties that a budget and you know has in its first draft not included the hyde amendment. The democratic party has permitted the hide. A minute to be in the budget. Through the obama administration the democratic critics has refused to fight for abortion and in fact contributed to the idea that it is. There's something distasteful about it that there's something icky about it then. It's a cultural issue. Rather than a key economic issue the democratic party Has been very much a part of this story to and has also been absolutely asleep at the wheel while this was very clear to many people who weren't listen to and who were called hysterical literally called hysterical regularly been saying look. This is what we're building this is. What's this is what the right is trying to do. And and people who've been saying that we're told that they were fantasists that they were over dramatic that they were feminist. Basically by saying you're being over dramatic. Rebecca i'm so so glad you said this and i and i want to stop for a moment and honor the fact that rebecca and i have stood on many a street corner in brooklyn and asked each other historical right now having had somebody tweet that at us or shout that at a So i think it's really really important to fold into this conversation. How subject You can be to claims that you're overreacting. And i also wanna on behalf of you know a lot of the mainstream press acknowledged the fact that this narrative about this moderate centrist court this redemption narrative that says that. Oh look at the end of the twenty twenty one term and look at how centrist brett cavanaugh was and locale centrist amy coney barrett and look at how they are drawn like magnets to how right the left. Fundamentally is. how corrected lead fundamentally as and look at how centrists and moderates they are. i mean we. We really really wanted that story. We pedaled that story. The public right now. Gallup polling is showing that fifty one percent of democrats loved the john roberts court so we also played a part in that narrative of normalizing and legitimizing a court. That was inexorably going to do. This and was selected to do this. And i guess under this rubric of gas lighting. I mean we've talked about the ways in which the court was gas lighting us. The dnc was gas lighting us. The press with gas lighting. As i guess i wanna give both of you a chance to say that just the political system itself kept insisting that there was something about The way women were reacting to brad cavanaugh. The way they were reacting to bear it there was again over the top hysterical. That wasn't a sober and legalistic and that i'm just thinking of you. Rebecca responding to ben. Sasse saying you know. These women are nuts. Why are they dressed up. Like handmaid's saying that they're gonna lose abortion. I mean the gas lighting all the way down so so. There are two instances that i think of one is that ben fast and that was during the cavenaugh confirmation hearing in fact before he was accused of sexual assault by christine bazi ford when protesters were yelling and the chamber about abortion rights Benaissas who is the senator from nebraska. Who's a history teacher. This incredibly condescending things of from the perspective of historian writes like for decades. I've been hearing people scream. That women are gonna die. Where and he used the word hysteria right. You think that. That's an overstatement. No he used the word hysteria. He's said where does this hysteria come from like. This is a ludicrous thing to say. Because i've been hearing it for decades right so that it this guy fighting this condescension from the white male nebraska senator history teacher. You know like a harvard degree or something. Who is telling you that. You're just crazy if you think that the confirmation of brett cavanaugh to the supreme court is going to result in harm to women's bodies right and autonomic right so there's that instance and then i want to bring up another incident also can't stop thinking about which is the end of the any coney barrett hearing just this past fall. When the democratic senator from california dianne feinstein reach over and congratulated as many people are watching this and just gobsmacked that after a supreme court was kept out of barack obama's power right as as brock obama was prevented by the senate by mitch. Mcconnell from appointing a justice to fill an empty seat in his last term and republicans jam through any conybeare barrett's a no opponents of abortion rights. And and the democratic party. There were a couple of people who really did site. And i was grateful to them for it but by and large the democratic party. Sort of let this happen without saying this is without saying no. This is a travesty. This works this is this is a horror show. This is what's going to happen. Here are the things that it's it's abortion is voting right. this is the environment. It's the planet without saying those things as boldly as they should have been saying. They didn't fight. They didn't fight and at the end of it. You have all these people watching me watching my jaw on the floor thinking. I can't believe this is happening. And they and feinstein democrat. Reaches over and congratulates lindsey graham on the best smoothest confirmation hearings in her memory. That's gas waiting to. That's doing all the people who are watching this thinking. Oh my god seeing the future. And i'm seeing our systems. Our government or government our planet unraveling here in front of me on the television and democratic senator. If congratulating republican senator on comedy and and you know the smooth operation of the system that's gasoline in lighting to just as much as ten passes. I i would like to bring this back to another era Pre barack obama at a time. In which i think there is value in being a introspective and retrospective about this and he can't divorced this time from the nineteen eighties and the perfect storm. Of mass incarceration the a attempts and success and villain izing black women as as Crack moms who would have crack babies and during that time they rise The surveillance and stocking of black women kind of lia fide redone over in their pregnancies The ways in which news media then to you know went you wards where there were premature babies who were acting as premature babies. Do they shakes. They cry wyoming. Those baby is saying these are the crack babies and then the articles that were published in the wall street journal the new york times washington post rolling stones that if we were to read those articles day. We'd say what racism what white supremacy baked in to. What is reported the claims that these would be Children who would grow up would be unedu- qabail that these would be kids who have distorted genitalia quite literally. These articles like that being said that they would be brain defected if easily would be would bring weapons to school and kindergarten. Teachers would have to watch out for them. Claims that there would be hundreds of thousands of them. Boring based on no evidence whatsoever the blacklisting of people researchers lake dr clear kohl's at emory hallam. Heard at penn who were writing saying you know we've been doing this research on maternal feeder fetal interfaces on cocaine with cracked with tobacco alcoholic. We do not see what you're saying. And eventually they were shut out from being quoted in stories. The race of this story is really important. Because this all has been built on the surveillance stocking the criminalization the civil punishments of black women and the failure to recognize that the very earliest attempts then and of course we could say the earliest attempts during slavery. Where we just kind of normalize like women have no control over their reproductive autonomy in the nineteen eighties when prosecutors began to say well. We can use existing child abuse statutes to come after you And to say that a fetus is a child in that way and the failure to mount the case cases then which were basically person hood kinds of measures that prosecutors were kind of taking on their own do or other kinds of attempts by saying that black women were trafficking drugs to their fetuses and using existing the drug laws against black women and that way or states like wisconsin admitted minnesota that enacted euphemistic crack. Baby bama laws that allowed for the civil confinement of any pregnant Person at the time pregnant women based on the on any doctor or medical providers claim that somehow she was a threat to her feet are all the things that were going on with. Black women being arrested and charged with murder for having miscarriages and stillbirths. And where were the movements. It said we have to attack that there should be no arrest of a person like really was fifteen years old when pregnant sixteen years old when she had a stillbirth and charged in mississippi with depraved heart murder because he had a silver right. These were the things of the eighties in the nineties. That really should have been paid attention to that served as a successful foundation. You can see that okay. We can get through prosecuting. These women on all sorts of matters related to their conduct and feed. What more can we do and so. I think that we would be remiss if we didn't pay attention to that time as well as being important to the current discourse dialogue. I couldn't agree more. And i think you're so right. Michelle to start the clock before we initially started the clock. Because it was another part of our sleep fullness to coin rebecca's word that she coined that none of that gets filtered into how We thought about these issues. And you've written so eloquently about the michelle. I guess. I did want to hear from you for a minute about just because you rate so often and so frequently about women in their bodies and maternal health and miscarriage an abortion. What you think comes next. I mean we're looking at a raft of states. I sent both of you florida's already talking about passing a copycat law. We're going to see a whole bunch of red states. I was suspect within days passing copycat laws. Tell us michelle permanent. What it's going to be like on the ground are we simply going to look at a world. In which if you are in mississippi if you're in texas florida you literally have on paper a right to abortion post roe v wade that you cannot access. Well that's right. I mean you spotted it a right to abortion that's more illusory than real and let's understand that these are a number of play books on that have been holland over time. So if you were to think about eugenics in the united states when the state of virginia's eugenics law goes up before the united states supreme court 1927 buckley bell. I mean it's done as a test case right in some ways one could look at this as a test case that successful. And what does it do it means. Then that are a number of states. After that enact eugenics laws it becomes like a model law. Much of what's been done is to test out what who'd become model laws and so yes. We will see those copycat laws because we also see that. The supreme court was sending a signal by its failure to act its action that was also a failure to act was in fact a very powerful and strong signal from the most powerful tower that there is in the land about the broken of this aspect of our democracy when it comes to upholding the types of laws and constitutional protections that will aid women in the furtherance of their will wellbeing of their health of their privacy of their autonomy. And we've seen that time and again and it's important that we understand that going bright back to what was said in that to the extent that there would be people who would say. Well this is just simply alarmism. This extremism to compare this to historical moments in the past. No it's not. It's that those historical moments in the past were in fact extreme. It's not our articulation of them. That's extreme. it's just that it is unfortunate and sad and horrific that we are in a country that would have fugitive slave laws that we are in a country that would have eugenics laws and that now we are in a country where roe v wade could be up ended in the way that it did in the supreme court would claim that it had no choice but to do what it did and now let's return to our emergency extra amicus podcast that we're bringing to you in the wake of the supreme court shadow duck decision to effectively overturn roe v wade at least in texas with professor michelle goodwin and rebecca trickster and rebecca because this has been so desperately hopeless. I guess i want to ask you and maybe this is gonna be an even more depressing answer but now we have president biden saying he's launching quote a whole government effort to see how the federal government can respond to texas. And i guess. I'm wondering i mean i know you think about this harder than most people i is there. A whole government effort to be brought to bear. Is there a master plan. That i don't know about that. You can share with us. Yeah no. I know the master plan. I know the master-plan expand the court. Yeah that's that seems to be the effort at the plant no. I don't think that's fun plans. And i'm livid about it I don't you know there's this and again like there's been this unwillingness to actually address that it would be too much. That would be over the top one of the things that i listened to michelle talk and think about the history and think about how in so many ways the structure of this particular super weird law reverts to like such an old american norm right like where our economy was built on the economic element of this. The payoff yes. Vigilantism the fugitive slave law slavery itself. Where the country's very underpinnings its economy. It's government everything is built on this institution that relies on controlling black women reproduction. Right the production of of enslaved bodies and limiting the autonomy of enslaved women and more broadly You know a country that was built on limiting women's civic participation including white women's civic participation and them the vote for very long time This is what the country is made and in fact one of the things that's happened over the past century and a half is that there have been these enormous long movements that have in some cases resulted in increased protections than freedom right some of them judicial some of them supreme court decision roe v. Wade some of them legislative changes that have built better laws and expanded pre didn't but the fact that they did. This is like this way that they can get around and going back revert to the nor right revert to the founding principles of this country Built unrestricted liberty and inequalities from which people will profit some people profit and some people will pay right. That's that's what this is even though there's probably going to be more strict version of it coming in certain months right was the same thing hopes rebecca. You're cutting out. We'll we'll try to Maybe rebecca we can retake the one thing you just said i have. I have one thing and we're going to be pulling out here. I'm not keeping them any longer. But i would only say that there is something extra neem an extra ho athletically american in the worst cents about the work around when they could just a could have straightforwardly overturned the judicial protection that you know people work toward over decades the century to gain protected rights to abortion care. They could have just frontally reverse that but instead they chose to do this for profit thing that hearkens back to like to as michelle said fugitive slave laws to To the ways in which people could profit off of the surveillance and policing of of women's bodies of pregnant bodies In this really nasty visceral punitive way. They didn't do it. The official way right they they will they will do with the official but in this case they did it with bounty hunters and money. Payoffs that takes takes us right back to the founding to the foundations of this country and its economy and and it's government on the surveillance patrolling enslavement of people. The denying the denial of rights to bodily autonomy or civic participation to women And the fact that they chose to do it this way is just there's an ugliness about it that takes sh straight back to the beginning michelle. I just want to give you a chance. Because i know your inbox is flooded. Rebecca's flooded minus flooded by women. Saying what can i do. What's to be done. I would answer that on multiple fronts. I'm the first is to understand the political economics behind this and the importance of political empowerment the texas legislature has so gerrymandered voting rights in that state. That essentially what they've done is to create a a recreate a pattern of voting for those were of most economic means and sophistication et cetera. To be able to access the right to vote. Which means that on one level. It's really hard to vote these people out of office but that is really what is important here. The texas legislature does not represent the demographics of the state is overwhelmingly white and it is overwhelmingly male. So there needs to be greater balance in the texas legislature so the political process the politically calming process is incredibly important. And that requires resources. It requires information. It requires a certain sense of indefatigible in making sure that people are able to access the right the vote but also able to run for office. And so that's important. It's also important to understand that this may be kind of long arc of work to be done notice that those who are in the majority on the supreme court in the shadow docket opinion. Three of those are trump appointed Justices which means they're not going anywhere soon so it's important also not lose hope in this but it may be a fight for the long haul and not something that is just simply instant but it does mean greater resources being provided to help support people who are in texas who will be harmed by this law because they will have an immediate needs and that includes for some of them. It's already happening that they're going out of state in order to access abortion rights. Now that is something that may have a little impact on people who are wealthier and of means to be able to get up and go but for poor people. People who are working class been data is a huge barrier to being able to have the effective healthcare that they want so support in that way is also critically important. And then lastly and there's so much more we could write whole books on those in terms of what we need to do is important to understand that this is part of a national network of movement. And it's not the last that we will see and taxes because they're already gearing up for additional laws to be presented in the state legislature and for the governor to be able to sign. It's important to understand that that will serve as basically it is serving as an incubator for other states so those who are in other states that worry about this coming to a movie theater near them. It's important to pay attention and try to make sure that law such as this do not get enacted in their states that means voting that means being part of the political process That means putting more women in office and it also means being very mindful about the judicial process to many of the local state courts are one where people actually have to run for office and we have to think about this as not just being involved in the political process as it relates to who will serve on a legislative bodies but it also means being mindful about the people who are running to serve as judges In those states is well and people need to be mindful about that in texas and also in these other states because of law itself is written in a kind of way to make it very hard presumably for someone to actually seek some remedy from a federal court and yet that they would have to lean in into or file litigation that would be heard at the state court level while i disagree with that and certainly believe that the supreme court could have issued an injunction in this case it still raises an important matter with regard to who served on stage court and add one other thing too that too when we're thinking about elections people running for office and things like that is that every level a governing needs more. Women need more women of color and so every effort that can be made to make sure that every space including school boards that will determine whether sex education is taught in. Schools are not all of those places all of those institutions need greater diversity and representation and they simply don't have them edit startling at alarming and states like texas mississippi alabama etc. So i'm thank both of you for taking time out of your respective days. Michelle is in a hotel room. Rebecca is quite literally stopped on the side of a highway with her kids and pets in the car. I know you are both unbelievably busy. But you were precisely the two people. I most needed to hear from today and as expected you both utterly broadened and deepened my understanding of what took place at the court this week. Michelle goodwin is chancellor's professor of law and director of the center for biotechnology in global health policy at uc irvine school of law. Her book policing the womb came out last year from cambridge university. Press and rebecca traced. Her is a writer at large for new york magazine. She has written about women from a feminist perspective for the new republic l. salon. She's contributed to the nation the new york observer the new york times and the washington post. She's the author of all the single ladies. The award-winning be girls. Don't cry and most recently of good and mad both michelle and rebecca. Thank you very very much. I needed to hear your voices today. Which means there are. A lot of women did to thanks for joining. Thank you dahlia. Thank you to both of you. That's a wrap for this episode of amicus. Thank you so much for listening. And thank you so much for all your letters and your questions. You can always keep in touch with us at amicus at slate dot com or find us at facebook dot com slash amicus podcast. Today's show was produced by saw birmingham. Gabriel roth is editorial director. Alicia montgomery is executive producer and june. Thomas is senior managing producer of slate. Podcasts we will be back with another episode of amicus next week till then hang on there.

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Beating the Book: The 2021 NFL Draft Betting Special

Beating The Book with Gill Alexander

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Beating the Book: The 2021 NFL Draft Betting Special

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Look at the background lookout. Great this places. It's unbelievable here at circus. Sports and thrilled to have a all star. Cast talk about the draft first of all my partner on primetime action which we do monday through friday night sometimes on. Msg plus sometimes not matt brown. How're you doing well doing well during football season. Msg plus yes. That's that's we start saying it right. And that's how exactly starts and then with the with the circuit backdrop the nighttime dusk circa backdrops from the deep dive podcasts. You're density. how you doing man. I'm doing well. Man were weak out from the draft this time of year. Superfund love all the Looking into the crystal ball of. Who's gonna do. What in the draft. This is This is this is what it's all about dude. I cannot wait. We are exactly what week away from the nfl draft. And we'll go through everybody's favorite pixie or favorite props that they've already bet. Obviously on this show. I saved the best for last. I was gonna introduce him first but he He went off camera for a second. So i wanna make sure. He had time to get into seat. He is the host lombardi line at visa has a podcast of his own with adnan. Virk all gm shuffle. The name of the book is gridiron. Genius i writes for the athletic. He has worked with all the greats. Not all the greats again. No joe gibbs but bill walsh. Parcells bill belichick. Al davis. it's michael lombardi. Thank you for doing this. Michael appreciate it. No problems nice to be a thank you. It's good to be here. Michael star with you before we get into all our problems. Let me start with the top of the draft because in many respects this is i think the most confusing confusing but the draft. I probably know the least about one through six a week out in recent memory if you if you are okay with trevor looked not okay with but if you believe trevor lawrence is absolutely going number one by the way the surest thing in this draft is trevor lawrence tweeting out that he's already donating the jacksonville charity. So he is going number one. If you believe. Zach wilson is going number two though to the jets. Where a week out do you stand. And you've been very consistent about this on three. let's start there you know. I think. I think let's start with this idea for the better. If you wanna play props and you wanna use mock drafts as kind of guideline for your prophetic. I think you have to be strategic in looking at each mock for example if you want to know what the rams are going to do in the draft or perhaps san francisco repeater schrager smock. Because he's pretty wired in those organizations. If you want to know what the jets are going to do or would baltimore's gonna do the mystery redan. Jeremiah's ma if you wanna know what. Some other teams recharged casualties ma it. These are the moxie read. Because they'll give you a peek into what the teams are really thinking. They're not going to be perfect on all the draft. So let's to peter. Peter schreyer's draft mock draft tedious released april twentieth right. He has exactly the way i see it. He has mack jones coming to three. Which is what. I think is going to happen. I think it's a debate in that organization between trae lance jones. I think the head coach really likes mac jones. He likes his intelligence. He likes his ability to control the game. At the line of scrimmage dc's accommodation of matt ryan mack shaab kirk cousins all those players rapid amac jones. The the people the outside the building. Don't see that. And some of the inside the building that they favor trae lance. So i think it vira betting man i would bet mack jones at three i would hedge my bet with something on trae. Lancers well interesting. That just feels none of that conversation for you by the way. Peter schrager has Travis itn going to washington at nineteen not look at peter schreyer's draft for washington specific. Let me just say that. Yeah i mean look. That's why i think you have to be really careful. Do you have to pick certain teams. That you know guys are really wired. Bright you know. Go through peter. Schreyer's twitter feed. What stories does he break. That are true based on like for me like people. Like if i say something about the patriots people to believe it because they know i talked to the head coach so you know carolina that my son works there but not all drafts. That all mocks perfect. But when you when you have a guy like charlie castle who does a good job of collecting information you gotta look at all his information on where he has guys go and you can utilize that draft that as well drew number three. You said a little differently or at least you read. The tea leaves differently anyway. Yeah i mean it's it's really funny how there's sort of 'asymmetry about the coverage of the draft and where actual value betting lies because if you actually think that there's a valued play to be made on three you're probably you're probably deluding yourself. I would say that there are lots of value draft value proposition. Down the board at this point. And you know i personally while i completely agree with you know mike take over all that you have to do a blended approach where you kind of evaluate the quality of information across all the mocks depending on who's connected to i would still point to san francisco and say they would be at the top of the board for me of a team that has mastered sort of the the shops the disinformation campaign. And the obscuring what they ultimately end in intend to do. And i think this is probably the most important pick that's going to happen under the lynch shanahan regime And the idea that they even would have told somebody is that they are especially close to like pete schrager. What their true intention is i think is i. I have suspicion about that And you know as i look you know. There's a reason that. Zach wilson is like minus five thousand to go to the jets but mac jones's like minus one fifty to go to the niners. You know the jets are not trying to hide information. They're being very out in the open with it and they leak all the time you know. It's relatively well known when we get to the draft. Well who the jets like. But i would point to the niners even last year and peter. schreyer's mock he had them taking You know one of the he atom taking rugs at thirteen overall last year. The consensus mocks across the board where they loved rugs. They love judy. They loved land. They were going to get one of those three guys and thirteen. Got to them Lamb and judy were available and rather than make those picks they traded down and took in law to replace force buckner. And it was like i. You couldn't find a single mark in this in the space that linked to gin law and it was like okay They did a very good job of sort of deceiving. The fact that they really didn't have is for any of those three guys when with their first pick And in their second pick they did us on a wide receiver and it was somebody that nobody saw coming in brandon. Euch so i would. I would say that shanahan is one of the guys that i would put the least amount of competence. Anyone saying that they've heard with any kind of credibility that they know what he would do. I've bed into fields at three pretty heavily at this point unprepared to take it as a loss been prepared to a loss of doing it in the first place. Because i've just been like i. I have a tough time swallowing. How a team gives up so much future capital to move up and take mack jones when likelihood he was going to be there much lower in the draft as you know it just. It didn't make sense. Mathematically it didn't make sense in terms of the value that pick for me that that would be mack jones and similarly trae lance. You know if you're if you're leveraging all of this future capital and this goes beyond just pick three with the niners but if you're leveraging so much of your future capital for a player that started one year of football like you've started the clock on the end of your tenure right if that doesn't work out and there's a be a fifty fifty chance that doesn't that's that's it that's the end you know you've passed on guy like fields. Who was who. I think has a higher floor You know you may have. You may have captured the next You know the next great quarterback in in lance. But if it doesn't work out you know that's it for you. And i have a tough time. Seeing people would you leverage that much future capital for unknown quantities like this And then just lastly the the The fit between fields in san francisco in my opinion is is so strong And the connection to the through the quarterback collective tween shanahan and and fields going back to high school and he's a known quantity for them on top of the fact that he was an iron man in the semi-final game in college in the college. Football semi final game played through broken ribs. And here's shannahan he's dealt with Rg three who is a generational talent. His legs go year one You know he can't say on the field he he gets jimmy garoppolo from the patriots. Jimmy garoppolo looks amazing. Down the stretch that first season they trade for him. He can't stay on the. He's made a glass. You know so the idea. That shanahan's kind of i would err on the side of a guy that has an iron man that's going to take the field even with broken ribs. I think israel. And you know the only reason i can think that they would run the sort of misinformation campaign You know this. On on the football media landscape would be to keep the jets locked in on wilson too. Because i have by personally. Think the fields wilson space between those two players and their their potential in the. Nfl is very thin. And zach. wilson in my mind is higher candidate for being an nfl. Boston fields but You know that. That's that's kind of where i've landed but with all that said it's the most fun topic to talk about in the draft prop space but there are lots of better options for finding bedding value for sure. By the way. I would say this i would say that skill i i'd like to rebut. That would say this if it if you really understand cost shanahan and you understand what he's looking for. You can't think justin feels if you understand if you've had conversations with kyle shanahan about what he wants in his offense about the mechanics of throwing the football about understanding. What's going to happen. At the line of scrimmage that it's going to either be mack jones or trey lance and i heard all of what you said and if you talk to people that have coached with them if you heard him discuss the value of what he sees and throwing motion. I mean there's a lot of teams in the national football league to have a real concern about justin fields is throwing motion and there is a huge disconnect between most people in a league where they see justin fields. You happen to see a much higher. But i think it's a little bit like valuing are unless you really understand what the coach is looking for. And i didn't base my pick on mack jones. Being there are three. Based on. Peter schreyer i based on what people have told me that have been in the league and i haven't been with call shanahan and if you ask anybody who has been with kyle in the room who we pick ninety nine percent of say mack jones. The guy. yeah. I met you and i were on prime time action. The night of the niners trading up two three four that hall and by the way what drew saying correct. I mean these. The line on number three keeps flip-flopping day after day from mack jones to justin fields at this point terms of. Who's the favourite. So many more things more this point that you and i are first reaction. Was there. drafting anybody but mack jones. But that was more of an assessment doesn't mean we don't like maximums that was more of an assessment of what we believe to be the game of the draft in where you could have otherwise gotten mac jones's f- yeah and i mean. Listen i'm i'm i very well could be wrong. I think is justin fields. Well very well could be wrong. Could be mack jones if it is mack jones then i think the one thing for certain overpaid for it because they definitely didn't have to go to three to get mack jones and so i definitely think at the end of this if there is no if disgusting built in its matt johnston. They likely overpaid for it. But i mean look. We look at justice fields here and this is a guy him trevor. Trouble the guy that no one's ever wavered on. He has been the guy that everyone says. It's going to be the next guy. The next generational talent tr- justin fields was ranked ahead. Trevor arts and one of the scouting services coming out of high school trevor lawrence and straight ahead justin fields in the other. They come out everybody is talking about. How good these guys are in college. If if if just fields had not played this season like chased didn't then we would be arguing right now. The number one overall pick in the draft. It'd be should it be justin fields or should it be. That was the argument right now. No way knowing what they were literally mentioned say every single african for two years it but the people that are mentioning on the what they're talking about. It's like you can't use a foul a false narrative to support a narrative like you're asking people say well this goes the best player coming out of high school running back so we should talk about him. It's about the career what they do on the field like that does that doesn't value it. That's not how people in the national football league build a draft board. Based on the conversation justice fields has always been. Have you talked to anybody at georgia about justin fields wide transferred. What happened. Do you understand how jake from beat them out. I mean i don't understand it but to you. I don't understand how that happened but it did. But my point here is simply this slow. I'm not gonna debate over over. And i could if it's just fields that i'm completely wrong but i think the reality of it is anybody who thinks that we would have a conversation between just travel arts this summer. We're not watching the same tape. We're not watching the same tape. We're not watching the same game but football. That was never going to be the case. That was never going to be the case and and so for me. It's like look. We played a senior year. You watch them. He did his thing. And you go on i. Just here's what i don't understand. Matt jones did more in alabama. And i'm i have our pick at three solo tackles so let me get away. I'm not in love. With any of the quarterbacks i wanna make this perfectly clear. I'm not defending jones here. But i think there's a real bias going on here. That matt jones every alabama player will openly. Tell you without even asking without even asking the question who's a better player to or mack jones absolutely absolutely jones. Not even close. They changed the offense from jones. They throw the ball daffy of more for mac jones. They did more things to fit his game. That was more conducive to the pro game than anything and now. i know. we're not allowed to say a bad word about to but you didn't. Thick tool was a bad ticket. The fourth pick in the draft last year. But yet you think the third pick is too rich when shanahan. I'm told thought that there's going to be teams. That trade up into the top five namely new england namely carolina maybe denver to get mack jones and he wanted to beat them to the punch now. That could be all wrong. But that's the conversation i will. I will go ahead and let this be known for the rest of the podcast. I've talked to know head coaches. I've talked to know player personnel people. I no one in any any. Nfl opposite so all of this definitely comes from opinion in things that i've gotten along the way i think there's a fundamental disagreement as to how good justin field to us in college. There is a lotta high high level grading systems out there and again i understand. They're not in the nfl offices but pro. Football focus is pretty highly regarded at ninety two point. Four passing grade through then deadly accurate. All the everything that they're saying. Have you ever seen the corners that pro football focus grades and where they end up grafton and how they play like. I'm just telling you that this phenomenon about pro football focus if they were so right quarterbacks. They're wires all of them. Get more on all of the picks blown like you know. Who does the quarterbacks for bro. Football focus like who grades them. Like i like i. I just don't understand. Like i wanna be argumentative on a podcast. But i just knock going to you know like i don't understand how people could kill mack jones and then in the same sentence i don't think about two quarter but he nobody but i nobody complains about it ended up being a better quarterback ultimately than but but realistically the i i i just have a tough time. Having seen only film talked to know on that not not ranking them sort of in the consensus ranking which was lawrence wilson fields lance jones and jones at fifth to me. I can completely concede that what he did it. Last year in alabama was awesome. But it was legitimately one of the best offensive systems that we've ever seen in college football ever. He had one of the most competent offensive lines of that. You could you could ask for his weapons he was throwing too were Future all pro. Nfl players like it was the perfect storm. He didn't have to do much. He was in a very comfortable situation and he to me. I don't know that he has an nfl body. A- personally i think he needs to put on a ton of way to stay healthy. I think if you put him behind the san francisco offensive line he takes. Shots fell players. I'm worried i'm very much worried about at surrogacy. Got an emergency alert I'm i'm worried about him. Picking up injury in the same breath. That i was worried about joe berle. You're going to cincinnati Whereas with fields at least at the durability questions not there for me and i you know the throwing motion is a very interesting wrinkle. That i haven't heard anyone bring up before. And if shanahan obviously absolute offensive guru situation where you land as a quarterback matters almost as much talent in my opinion in terms of if you're going to ultimately be a top team quarterback in this league and any quarterback lands and shannon system. You are already at the head of the curve of finding success. I think there's no no doubt about that. But i do if ends up in a decent situation as well and jones has a pretty clear ceiling. In the same way jared goff did with the rams i could see this ultimately being a very stressful situation for shanahan and lynch long-term with the san francisco organization considering what they gave up to move up to the spot. It's crazy how much we have to pay for outdated impersonal healthcare and even crazier that we all just accept it. It's time to face facts. Healthcare is backwards. Luckily there's forward a new approach to primary care that surprisingly personal and refreshingly straightforward forward never makes you feel like just another patient backed by top rated doctors and the latest tech forward gives you access to personalized care whenever you need it. Using in-depth genetic analysis and realtime bloodwork forwards top rated doctors provide you with in-depth insights to better understand your genetics mental and physical health. 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This episode is brought to you by hp plus in a world full of smart devices. Shouldn't your printer be smart to it is with hp plus these printers. No when they're running low so you always get the you meat delivered right when you needed. Plus you save up to fifty percent on inc so you can print whatever you want as much as you want anytime you want. That is pretty smart. Get six three months of instant inc when you choose. Hp plus conditions apply visit. Hp dot com slash. Smart for details. It's it's gonna be fascinating We're going to give people some betsy. I don't want to go down this rabbit hole anymore. Because we do our on this but i will just say i think the back jones being surrounded by players is valid. I think justin fields being Being surrounded by nothing but the best players in the country Argument is valid to. We don't have a plethora of alabama and ohio state quarterback succeeding in the nfl That could change with these guys. But by the way. I will tell you that trevor lawrence and i know this will make your head explode. Perhaps michael but the last two biggest stages in one in the national finals one in the national semifinals. I walked away from those trevor lawrence games. That i was like. I don't know you know. And he was surrounded by great players too. So you know. I may live to eat those words for sure. Maybe certain things. I don't understand about trevor lords. But i'm not one hundred percent of the way. Zach wilson. we don't. There's a lot of questions about sack wilson. So your point is right that questions about all of them But as far as the draft is concerned one week from tonight. We'll find out who in fact the niners do picket three and then what happens after that. Four through six. I mean that's an even bigger question. Will atlanta trade out. Will they stay. Draft kyle pits. Will they stay in draft sewell if atlanta trades out. assume it's for a fourth quarterback. Then what happens at five. Will the bengals take soule to protect. Joe borough will. They take jim mark chase if joe boroughs in their ear about his former team added. Lsu at six you have to figure jamaa chase can't go past six so let me just ask it this way and i've asked this of all of you at some different form on radio this week. What do you think we do know. Give me the the one draft crop out there in jomar chase going under six and a half triggers that for me because i think we do know that assuming miami stays where they are they are fielding phone calls as well. Is that the play. You like the most michael. We'll start with you or is there another one. Is it about offensive players. What do you think you know for. Sure i kyle pits go and below five and a half is the one who now. Now i say that with atlanta not trading that pick which. I don't think they'll do. But i think how pits in atlanta are. It makes the most sense to me. I think cincinnati at five. I think it's so. But i wouldn't say it's a lock so i don't like sue under six and a half as a lock is something that i know. It makes too much sense. Not the pixel at six at five at six. I agree with you won't chase but i've seen these drafts where everybody talks. Offensive line wide receiver. Then offense lyman their so kits if if seoul is there at six how do they not take him so for me. I mean those are the really the ones that i feel the most comfortable with as it relates to some of the props. I think justin fields for me after four three and a half or above is for me a really good pick. I don't know where. I put trae lanston that matt same question. I think my favorite one that i have in pocket right now. It's just total wide receivers over four to half. I mean again we we understand. Each mock draft is a person's opinion and each mock draft has certain people with different different types of information. But if we do kind of go and we look at at these wide. Receivers in these mock drafts like Steep lazio's has six at his sam. Monson has seven kuyper has six mcshea has six burglar has five ryan wilson from. Cbs has five chart. Football has six so like there isn't any sort of respected mock draft out there that has only four wide receivers going in the first round. Now it's not a bit for every bankroll because you do have to lay about. I think at this point has gotten up to like fifty or sixty. I got it fortunately a little bit earlier. I think i got it at two twenty but again if you do have that type of bankroll what we do know for. Sure i mean. I think anyone's arguing. That chase smith waddell and more seem to be the consensus guys. That are definitely going to the first. We see a lot with bateman going in the first and the most of them have bateman and more going in the first harris marshall moving into a lot of the first round as well and then even again. The same performance has seven. He has his rondell more from purdue going in the first. So i mean there's at least a good number of guys there that we could make sense for all of them going in the first round and so i really do like the over four and a half a lot yeah. I grabbed that one. I had minus two fifty so i was willing to late by the way i've laid ridiculous. You and i think have chase under six and a half later. I wide receiver drafted. I laid minus there. It is i wide receiver to be drafted minus five fifty. I have no problem. I just got an under one and a half on tight ends kyle pits and prove me wrong. I just laid minus three hundred drafts. You would lay prices in a way that you would never never but most likely not be willing to lay an actual sporting events Drew you have the same answer did you. Not with the wide receivers. It was something else. Offense players i believe. Yeah i mean it's all the same bed effectively You're you know the macro trend in the. Nfl is pretty clear. We're running more three wide receiver sets. That means two things you need. You need wide receiver bodies to absorb those targets. And you need a better offense of line because you're putting more stress on them by not giving them as much help like that's the macro trend that you're seeing across most offenses in that are being run in the nfl right now and top of that. You have a bumper crop of tackles and wide receivers in this year's draft And so the likelihood that we see six to seven offensive. Lineman is high likelihood that we see Five to six wide receivers as high. And then i think almost without with with almost certainty. You're gonna see five quarterbacks in tight end so right there You know you're you're flirting with eighteen in eighteen nineteen offensive players. And then one surprise of a you know one running back potentially two running backs Have been you know commonly mocked lately. you know that would put you over the top so offensive players over. I think is still quite solid. Although we've seen a ton of movement in that in the last forty eight hours so it's getting close to the place where i think you know they've they've about settled on fair price. The the rest of the top ten in the interesting things to talk about and the high confidence picks just aren't really there this year. I agree with mike. That kyle pits as an under play makes a ton of sense because i do think atlanta's going to be stuck at four and best player available at that point in time. Kyle pits And then You know the bengals i think. Sewell versus chases pretty much a coin. Flip at this point Depending on which day you happen to be cruising You know the draft information space. The bengals have either decided one or the other and depending on which source I can make a case that the bengals having invested a lot of first round draft capital over the last handful of years in offensive line with relatively little return and then mike brown going out and signing riley readings albeit not a great player but giving him money To come in and play tackle is probably of a Enough of a sway. That if i'm the dolphins and i covet jamar chase. I'm sweating them. Picking that naked fifth. Pick because i would maybe make it fifty one percent chase forty nine percents tool at the crap just at this moment and you know. It's it's possible that the dolphins moved up back into that six spot with recognizing that between pitts- soule and chase. You have three future all pros and one of those guys is gonna fall to us. We don't care who But just kind of the way. That roster's constructed. I think they need more Offensive weapons and if they end up with sewell instead of pits and chase i think they may have a little bit of regret for what they gave up to go from twelve six. Is patrick ser tan to dallas at ten the player and team. You've seen the most matched in mocks. Met yeah you know this one actually. There's a site you can go to the aggregates. All these things and basically he has been from the beginning of march until yesterday he had been mocked to the cowboys in sixty. Five percent of the mock drafts out there. And they're the ones that weren't it. Was caleb barley so i mean it it. Basically were basically corner for the cowboys and basically every single one of these marks getting put out there. It was either cer- tanner or caleb farley in just about every one of them i mean. They were twenty first against the past twenty-seven coverage grade. So i mean i. It makes perfect sense. Here they went and they did offense last year. You come back. I around this year and get a corner in there and being a passing league as drew mentioned to me being a passing league. You either pass rushers or guys that can cover and so it makes a lot of sense for him. I think the under ten and a half which is still available out. There is pretty viable for him. I think him being the first defensive player taken is pretty viable as well That i think whenever you kinda look at how again. There's likely to be a trade that we're not thinking about. This is going to happen somewhere along the way before it gets to the cowboys. But you know as we sit right now at least if you of go thirty peg these things down. It looks like he's gonna. He could be the first defensive player taken as well. Mike eliminate ask it this way. What's the team. And you know these guys as well as anybody. What's what's the team that you always go into these drafts. And you're like this is a team most likely to do something stupid. You know. I mean i think the bengals still take the offensive. Tackle that qualifies stupidity. Watch the super bowl. You know. I i know jomar chases a great nice player and i think he'd be on but still you're talking about a pro bowl left tackle for twelve years like seriously. You're you're not going to take that in a protector quarterback. I mean you know like there's no way that doesn't make sense. Oh and then. I think lately the way the giants have behaved. I don't think they behave in a manner that is typical to what they do. They've been all over the place i mean. Just take this example. They go ahead and pay a ton of money to sign a dory jackson who i liked coming out in the draft but had they traded a seventh round. Pick to tennessee. Who was offering a dory jackson for seventh. If if right they were ready to give them to you. They would have saved fourteen million dollars if they make that trade today. Just told you. The seventh is more valuable. fourteen million. Tell me how that makes sense interesting. Take they would have taken the contract of door jackson which odum ten million as opposed to give twenty four million which should they draft eleven. Wideout though they they decide golladay paid a twenty million dollars. I mean you draft another wideout out. I mean how much you got to have it that position. They still have sterling shepard. They still have a slayton plan for them. I'm not saying they're great. They have no right side of their offense ally. Look off to what. They signed the kid from houston last year. Who played for houston last year. Who wasn't very good. Fulton zach fulton. They don't have a right tackle. They have a kid who was a college free agent at right tackle. They can't function as an offense without you know they're really in trouble there. The skinny podcast invites you do unscripted casual conversations with the biggest names in the motorsports industry and beyond. Oh there you are sweet. Jesus i but he cheated. 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Pick and at the third overall pick second overall pick eight one third overall at plus one forty. I didn't get the best number on third. But yes i. I played him at second. Because i'm not one thousand percent convinced. That zag wilson is into the jets then some of the ones. We've talked about over seventeen and a half offensive players drafted minus seventy over four and a half wideouts drafted minus two fifty. These are all bets. That i already have in pocket jamaa first white out to be drafted minus five fifty mentioned that earlier willing to lay the the hammer on that one. Then i chase under six chase under six and a half at various prices minus minus two forty respectively terrence. Marshall marshall rather would be the second lsu player in the second lsu wideout to go in the first half. I didn't first round rather. I didn't get him at the best number. Here at circuit was eighty minutes late to the desk here at nine. Am on saturday. Only got here ten twenty. But i was the one player where the line mm i still bedded after the line moved a little bit so i went taras marshall under thirty and a half figuring the ravens at twenty seven. Were really the fulcrum for him. Pits under five and a half a couple times sewell over five and a half. Because i do think the bengals will mess around and not pick him and then mack jones under nine and a half just because i like that Lie that they said at nine and a half. There's two others. I made more recently under one and a half on tight ends. I laid minus three eighty at the south point and just now beforehand and michael. Ask you about this. I just bet the chargers at thirteen or wherever they make their first pick or at least at thirteen to draft an offensive lineman. I i only laid minus one twenty. I haven't seen a mock out there. That doesn't have him drafted an offensive line. Do you feel about the chargers. The charge definitely drafted an offensive lineman. I don't know why you won't give up on the on the jets. They're definitely taken wilson. I mean that's been in the cards. What's he passed their physical once. They feel comfortable. That's when they traded darnold the other thing. I think you're gonna get bit on his turns marshall he he had a truck tom of physical. He has slid down the board. I would say right now. He's probably eight receiver on the board based on medical. Yep i made the justin fields pick awhile pack. So i probably wouldn't have made that today obviously church marshall the wide receiver. Novella shoe the justin fields. Second pick in other words. I wouldn't have made today part tears marshall under thirty and a half. That was the one exception. I made in terms of movement. But your point is is noted Drew what else have you bet. I got ahead of the farley steam on the over his medicals our concern. I think he's gonna slide into the twenty s Similar and flip flip. Side of that is Jc horn is i. I have a tough time seeing him. Go past thirteen honestly And realistically the you brought a patrick certain to the cowboys earlier. I get it. That's a great fit I get it that the mock drafters look at need for the cowboys and just slot him there because they they evaluate their tana's the best option at cornerback. Obviously he'll go first. But i actually haven't really seen any true connection. That cowboys are All on all in on certain. I could them look for horn. I think there are a lot of minds in the nfl. That seahorn is a better long-term prospect at at cornerback than ben ser tan Similarly eagles need a cornerback. They take worn at twelve and then I could see. I've heard rumors that That both the chargers And the And the arizona. Cardinals are very high on horn as well and have been making calls recently to try to trade into the range where he would be available so i think the horn market is getting hot and he will go earlier than people are mocking currently Similarly rashawn slater at a second offense lineman off the board. I think is going to go a lot higher than his original line. That was posted. I bet pretty heavily in two hundred thirteen and a half under eleven and a half. And i could see the landing spots for slater all over the place between seven and eleven You know that you've kinda get the feeling that A lot of times you have gm's who are somewhat on the rocks or a little bit under pressure. You know you how you can do one of two things. You can make a risky pick and take a quarterback of the future in which case you kind of start the clock on your tenure or you can take an offensive tackle. And that's a lot safer play. And i can see a lot of kind of you know. Got a lot of guys in the range of seven to eleven opt for the latter there There's been some you know some politicking for slater that he potentially is as good if not better prospects than i don't see that but if someone else does and they're in that range then he could go a little bit earlier than people are expecting as well. I tell you what you get. I have as we've talked nause. I have a four and a half wide receivers first round. I've got just fields under four and a half as opposed to three and a half so does give me an extra chance there if he doesn't happen to go three which i also have justin fields going number three pick overall but if he doesn't someone getting Getting antsy and trying to trade with the falcons to get him at four so do have mutter four and a half after marchesi under six and a half have chase i wide receiver taken mica. Parsons is first linebacker taken. And this is strictly. This is based off of absolutely no intel other than the fact that ninety two percent of every single mock draft that has been put put out there. Has mike parsons first. Linebacker taken they could be wrong. They certainly There's still eight percent chance. And that means eight percent of the time. It doesn't happen or trades. Or anything. Like that. But i i was willing to delay the juice of that one cowboys to take a defensive player as their first pick and i did go ahead and take ser tan under ten and a half as well drew some good points. The the one like i said it is all over the place as far as what people seem to be. The smoke around the cowboys could be surveying. Could be farley could be horn even with with that 'certain being the one that at least most often mentioned i did go ahead and go there without one as well i i. I've been looking around. And i think this is one of those guys that i think we've kinda we kind of eluded to at least a little bit here at the beginning but And i think you might have even said it but as far as as far as value goes now as we said a week out and looking i mean unless we get some sort of wave of information unless we get some sort of you know insider stuff that seems to be accurate or whatever. I'm having a hard time pulling much more out of this i was. I've been digging through this. As much as i possibly can over the last week and a half and i like the ones that i've got in like the ones that have gotten pocket but i don't think i'm going to be betting just for the just for the hell of it and just for the sake of betting here and i don't. I don't think there's a lot to to really pull out of this anymore. I agree with that overall sentiment. At this point. I will say this. I'm rooting for comedy at this point. The three most comical things. I think that could happen. The raiders drafting jalen. Waddell at seventeen dress weren't just based on sheer speed at wide out that they would go crazy. And the packers draft. A quarterback obviously would be ridiculous the cowboys trading up for kyle pits which we've kind of heard a buzzer to about would be absolutely ridiculous to in their attempt to have maybe the number one offense in the number thirty defense in the nfl. That would be ridiculous. it might have that anyway. They they might have that anyway. That's right michael. I did want to ask a couple random questions though before before we close this out though twenty four matt. I talked about this on primetime action last night. I had warren sharp on a numbers game. First thing this week and he went off on how ridiculous it would be if the pittsburgh steelers drafted a running back at twenty four and one of the things that i'm very cognizant of is listen. The draft is an inexact science to begin with as you point out. I mean like the the the the people who are picking themselves don't necessarily know how how these players will pay it out let alone those of us who then chime in afterwards but one of the things that i do feel like i can comment about the game of the draft where you ought to pick players and where you ought not twenty four though if the steelers drafted nausea harris. I can't see myself getting that worked up about it. He was really worked up about them. Drafting running back twenty four. Where do you stand on that. You know. I think it depends on the value of the board. I mean you know if there's something if they had an offensive lineman that they felt really good about you know then certainly you could say well. We could trade back up in the second. We'll get one of these facts. I think it's easy for guys to be critical of where you take. A guy really matters how they play mate harrison. A really good back. I mean you know i'm not. I'm not in love with drafted running backs in the top ten. I think once you get past that you've got to look at the player and what he contributes you know they want. Ben i mean it would make sense that they drafted a quarterback as ben's not gonna play next year very at a high level. He didn't play at a high level this year. So you know. I mean they. Can they get their quarterback of their future. If there's a guy there they like they should take it. I doubt if they'll be guy there that they like but they got to try to get a good player their team somewhere and running back off. It's wider the two places that they have the biggest holes along with defensive line. I think the steelers are gonna take a giant step backwards to me. I i think the one thing we missed on with the cowboys is. There's a lot of conversation that cowboys taken offensive linemen. Because tyrod spent this not healthy they could move collins over the left tackle and they need a right tackle and the cowboys. obviously they're. they're probably most impactful. Draft ever was them choosing not to take johnny manziel in going off lineman twice some years ago. That really changed around. That franchise drew you were. Where do you stand on twenty four. I'm just curious about if they pick nausea hairs. Because how many times that. We watch alabama game and we're like this mack. Jones is great. Devante smith is great but now she is the best player on the field. I i don't. I don't really have i. I'm kind of in the same boat. Where the there's there's it's easy to make a case that Picking a running back in the first round as mistake. It's pretty easy to point two teams that have done this in the near in the recent Recent past out think of reshad penny sunny michelle. There are a lot of examples of You know or even last year clyde the chiefs would would would a little bit of offensive line depth. Bene- better call and pick thirty two probably You know an and four at least four kind of the current state of the nfl. I wanna running back. Who's got good hands who's got multiple multiple ways he can impact game not just Via the hand off. And i wanna get can get you know. Get the short. Get the hard yards. Get short yardage And i want you. You can find those sort of guys in the free agency market in the via trade for low impact draft capital or in the second round of the draft and so i wouldn't be shocked if we see running back slide in general however nausea harris does stand out as a kind of a a pretty pretty unique talent and Huge character guy as well for a lot of locker rooms and we know the steelers build through culture through a large degree and If they feel like nausea harris fits their culture and or all of the best offensive lineman her off the board by the time they were picking. I could see that happening. And i'm not really going to be especially critical of them. You know you know. I'm not going to be especially critical if they do that. But i also say their offensive line in pittsburgh is in such a poor state that it really doesn't matter who's running the ball. I don't think you're gonna get a ton of production So i would say you know. Hold your hold your horses. If you're in the dynasty fantasy draft situation or something like that expecting he's gonna make a huge impact for the steelers in year. One drew you said off air. You said you're saving something for the podcast. Did you already get that out there. I think we've talked about most of the good stuff. You know. Just a couple of other guys that i've seen on the rise. There are a couple you know as you go down the board. There's a couple of guys that i think there are still some value on I'm getting the sense that there's a pretty decent buzz around asante samuel junior. I have his under forty one and a half. And i can see that numbers already on the move into the thirties Cornerback it's again. It's it's a tricky position. Because you out you know there's a there's a A shortage of good cornerback. Talent across the league. So and there are some good cornerbacks in this draft But expecting to get a guy that's gonna make a year one impact. A cornerback is pretty Is pretty Ambitious she saw some pretty talented cornerbacks last year. Really not be able to do much in your one and it would shock me if teams are a little bit less a little bit hesitant to use round one capital and cornerbacks this year But asante samuel. Junior looks like a solid player to me in a long term contributor for a defense. That's in need of cornerback. And i think he's gonna be sought after either at the end around one or the top around to And then a couple of linebackers. That i've got i've heard The to miami addresses are falling. Pretty quickly jabot. Jalen phillips in gregory russo. For whatever reason seemed to be lower on draft boards. Then sort of the talent evaluators would have thought Those guys were falling funk fast and then But a couple of these linebackers seem to be picking up steam. The tulsa linebackers even collins is one The kentucky linebacker. Jim in davis is one And mike parsons. I'm not entirely sold on is gonna go at l. one so i'm going to take a couple of long touring swings there and take both both german davis and zaven collins as lb. One oh okay. That's that is really the wild card of this draft. Gil brandt who's seen decades worth of drafts was saying the other day that that's the this will be the strangest route because we have so many players not so many. But there's a handful of really top layers. You just mentioned mike parsons. Jamaa chase falls under this category. Obviously as well that took the year off. And so you really. You don't know police. Oh right you think you know what you're getting. You don't exactly know what you're getting mad alluded to it earlier. With just feels had. He not played. I don't know how would how we'd be talking about him last thing. Michael we leave with you because the very first thing you said was look at certain mock drafts. Were guys. know certain franchises better than others. You alluded to it. You know the new england patriots better than anyone. What do you think they do. I think they you know if they have somebody i if there's a receiver that slips into the Ten eleven twelve range. I think they go get them. They'll try to go get him. I think that could make sense if they felt like they could if they can't And they stuck at fifteen. I think they would look for the best offensive lineman or trade back and take a receiver a second receiver guy. That may be not a lot of people. Think as a high first round or that they would take at the bottom of the i. I think those of their actions. I think that's their look for. I don't think they would trade up to get a quarterback. I don't think that'll visit fast. They fit. I don't think they fit into the The narrative of of of justin fields. I think it would be if they traded if they wanted to. They trade to get someone like a tray lance that they could develop within a year. I don't i don't see the mechanical element of just fields fitting. How they throw the block. You sat down with tom. Brady and studied quarterback throwing at you. Ask tom brady. To critique. justin fields is throwing motion. Tom would have a dissertation on it. And i've listened to. Tom talk about quarterbacks mechanics and his throwing elbow at i think that's probably the biggest concern that teams that value. The mechanics of the quarterback habra justin very interesting. We'll all know the answers to all these questions one week from tonight. Appreciate it mike lombardi who just got off. Thank you mike. Appreciate it lombardi limescale. Gm shuffle gridiron book. Thank you sir. Judik from the deep dive. Podcasts contributed do a visa and of course at nbc sports edges. Well thank you drew appreciate the circuit backdrop and they appreciated as well that you do that and we'll talk next week matt brown from primetime action. 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