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Fresh update on "michelle obama" discussed on Cork's 96fm Opinion Line
"Narrative. Donald like the crown. Okay i want these actors. And it's funny when i i have learned. I happened in ireland long enough now to know listen. That accident in cork is different from limerick waterford and don't play around with with very proud. Don't mess don't have someone who's now from court to do a cork accent. Oh no so That's gonna be fun trying to figure out okay. So which of the great irish actors are from cork. Who who will those will be the ones we choose from. And i think it'd be great fun actually saw also part of the game is getting ireland behind this project. So who were the right producers over there who say oh yeah. This is great. Because listening. As writing this ongoing. Going frederick is one of the few black actors anyway. This is going to have a lot of irish actors. It'll be a crowd series for ireland at a lot of people it by the sounds of it. Oh yeah chat cork actually gets two episodes because so much happens there. So most of the city's get one episode and when you film here absolutely you can't fake it. You can't fake ireland and you can't fake the way these cities. They look slightly different even though they're built in times of georgian architecture. You can't fake it. We will be very excited to see what happens here. Paul now also this weekend. You've been recreating one of frederick's Best known speeches in a place called the help me. Here pokipsy kissy. Tell me about that. Listen that the eight episode project is a behemoth in mammoth and difficult. Trying to cut an edit adapt one of frederick speeches because listen. I wasn't gonna speak for three hours yesterday. I might have gone for it but no one will sit there for that long nowadays so i had to cut the speech and so what i thought was the best thing to do is actually wrote a song when i was in court about frederick outside Video in the hotel of an interest. Cut that song into speech so that i could sing a bit of it and then make a jump to another section of speech without it being so cozy so it ended up just being Had twenty seven minutes. They gave me things like a lot. Actually but when. You're doing douglas texts. That was difficult to cut his speech. Down spoke to see showed up. We were at the highest point in the city. Where frederick spoke in eighteen fifty eight on that day so it was a nice anniversary. The mayor was there. it was a big event. He he'd been after. I finished proclaimed for douglas day in poughkeepsie and the speech itself was about The british emancipation in the west indies. It was the anniversary of the british emancipation which was august. I eighteen thirty four. They invited frederick to speak but they should have thought before they invited him because he just took the opportunity to eviscerate the fat fat bed. He's standing there helping them. Celebrate bet england is at their the twenty fourth year without slaves and he is one standing there in front of all these people in america saying and we can't get it together so yeah maybe they purpose but Yeah it was quite a speech. Isn't it such a pity like you mentioned earlier on. Isn't it such a pity. We don't have even worn recording. Yeah because people say to me One of the npr. Before i did the event was how to you. You know you play george washington hamilton. Now you're gonna play frederic. How do you find the voice. And that's the pity you know But then again you just take it as well. That's also the benefit message of of an actor isn't it as well to portray you know that's right. It's also the benefit. I don't have anything that has to imitate. I don't have anything that. I have to try and mail all have to do is get the words makes sense them. I'm thinking in my mind paul. That he may sound are may have sounded something. Like i think man you know well and i would say one of the great. Our attorneys of the last forty years fifty years barrack obama. I would say that too. I would say you take a mix of barack obama and mix it. Maybe with little little john lewis because there was so much at stake. When frederick spoke there was literal life and death for him but the or tori skill and the patients with which he made you lean into what he was saying absolutely Our former president forty four. Barack obama. Who i i know you know well. Let's talk a little bit finally about hamilton because if someone said Twenty years ago. Look i'm going to read musical. Based on the story of one of the founding fathers it's gonna be a a pop music hip hop musical like could anybody have predicted. Just what a phenomenon will be like as a performer. Do you ever stand back. And say wow. I'm part of this and it's huge you before a different reason at a i i'll answer your first question. Could anyone have someone say to. Someone said they're gonna do that. I will just borrow from michelle. Michelle obama when lin told her what it was about she famously said good luck with that. She was went beth. That's the general answer. Most people would give someone who thought they do that And then also say i'm gonna cast people of color as the army fathers the air that so what did i do you know. By the time i was cast hamilton. The train left the station. It was it was the Sold out massive mega hit. That it is so i guess i had a career long enough and been enough flops in bannon enough really great shows didn't do or you know solid shows that had a good run and i've just been in enough things that i said. Well i can't believe this is happening but When rapid go on have this many weeks. I better get it together because i got to get up there and doing so. That was really mad. I didn't take much time to be like. Oh my gosh. I can't believe hamilton. I was more in a state of abject terror that i've got to get to work and get right you know there's already a legacy ahead of me. By the time i got there. There was already jackson. Carbonless on the nicholas christopher had played the role bryant park. So i on a notch. So i was like well. There's already lexi year. I've got to step into these boots and get us right and your back. Onstage shoot. covert played havoc with the touring. But but you're back onstage soon. Yeah we start rehearsal. I just got back to my home in chicago last night from the ireland trip and then poughkeepsie to get things together and we are interval at and i don't know how the producers doing they're putting up five hamilton's all over the world so we all need to play our part in like get be the important it's such. It's such a huge phenomena. Paul oak list of all. Thank you so much for being with us today. Best of luck with the new hamilton and we cannot wait to see the tv show about predators. Thank you so much. I can't wait to have court be part of it you know. I want everyone in court to know that. Or should i say kark and what might be learning fast. I want my yours in car to know when i first went there. I said i'm gonna live here. Love this place. And i've made some great friends.
Kevin Hart's 'Fatherhood' Coming to Netflix This June
"In the last segment. I just finished talking about the newly released from. Kevin hart fatherhood which just happens to be making. Its release. on father's day weekend this film will be released on netflix. June eighteenth and it tells the real life story of matthew lauglin who loses his wife liz shortly after the birth of his daughter and he must balance dealing with the loss of his wife providing for his daughter and providing for his daughter in more than just having a job in providing a certain level of care. This film has many layers to it and provides kevin hart with the opportunity to show off of more dramatic side of his acting talents. The book it is based off of is called to kisses for maddy a memoir of loss and love. And if all that isn't enough this film is produced by the obamas. One of the production companies involved in making this film reality is higher ground production. Which is the company. That was started by former president obama and first lady michelle obama in two thousand eighteen. This movie fatherhood will actually serve as higher ground productions first feature length film as to this point. They had mostly been focused on documentaries including american factory as well as the documentary becoming which took a look at michelle obama's heritage so whatever your political stances. If you're making a film that is backed by a former president. You are probably doing something right and once again. That film is fatherhood. Starring kevin hart and it will be making its debut on net flicks. Friday june
Interview With Yusef Salaam and Ethan Herisse
"Now if you experienced at all there seems to be consensus around this like i want to say michelle. Obama even wrote about it in her book. What a black students who are in route to a medical degree get strongly encouraged by counselors and advisors to not do it. Have you heard of this phenomenon has happened to you. I have not heard this. And i also i haven't experienced it either. No one's discouraged me on that. I'm wondering if that's before they get to college. Possibly if students are like exploring the possibilities of what to go into when you said that the immediate thought that came to mind was what malcolm x. was discouraged to become as a child when they asked them. Hey what do you want to be and when you think about systemic racism oppression that stuff. A lot of it has nothing to do with physical fighting but has everything to do with what happens mentally to get you to accept whatever definition. They are trying to put upon you. What did he originally wanna be. I don't remember exactly. But i think it might have been a lawyer or something like that knowing it would have been a good lawyer. But it's one of those things where you say you. So damn you know when i went to college after i came home from prison bumped into master teachers. My most impactful teacher was a student of dr john. Henry clarke and i think dr john henry clogged is taught. You know the fact that he was professor maradas hunter college in. He had people under him who were not so talk ahead to go to school to get educated. They're getting their education in addition to what they had under him so with regards to master teachers. What i found was that in educational environments that are breeding ground for success. They have specific things right it. A student to teacher ratio is a balance that you find in a lot of private schools but in public schools. You don't find a lot of people fall through the cracks but with the master teachers. They didn't get the opportunity to look at the child and see the child's gifts that they're exhibiting
Russell Wilson to Co-Host Vaccination Special With Obama and Biden
"Are teaming up for a TV special about Corona virus vaccines. President Biden, former president Obama, Michelle Obama and several celebrities are taking part in roll up your sleeves this Sunday on NBC. Its goal is to educate viewers raise awareness and address concerns surrounding the code 19 vaccines. That's Mark Mayfield reporting and that roll up your sleeve special he was talking about that's going to be hosted by the Seahawks own Russell Wilson.
Michelle Obama says she's "moving towards retirement"
"Michelle Obama says she's thinking about retiring from public life, She says she's taken up knitting as a hobby now as she moves toward retirement She tells People magazine that she had what she calls low grade depression during the pandemic lockdown. And after George Floyd was killed in Minneapolis last
Michelle Pfeiffer to Play Betty Ford in Showtime Series ‘The First Lady,’ Susanne Bier to Direct
"Actress. Michelle pfeiffer is about to step into the role of the former first lady. Michelle pfeiffer is set to take on the raw betty ford and showtime's upcoming anthology series. The first lady the actress joins the previously announced by davis who will portray michelle obama for the show. No word yet on who will play. Eleanor roosevelt the show will focus on the roles. That the first lady's played in shaping impactful and sometimes world changing decisions during their time in the white house for it is the wife of former president. Gerald ford who was president from nineteen seventy four to nineteen seventy seven. She died at the age of three in two thousand eleven.
Capitol Hill violence again raises the question of social media responsibility
"The story of the us capital wednesday was a dark day. Us history once again. Ask the question. How much responsibility rests on social media companies that have allowed figures like president trump the foment enough rage to enable such an act. This is your daily charge me to discuss this is our social media reported queenie wall. Welcome queasy thank you for having me. It's been quite the crazy exhausting week. Yes i really actually want to get you on earlier by new. You're so busy to the store. I didn't want to bother you. I'm glad you're able to come on today. so let's let's talk about it. Facebook and twitter have to their credit. They been more proactive of the last several weeks really since the election in flagging trump social activity but wednesday's violence seem to be a real turning point. Run through some of the steps. They've taken to to your outright block trump in some cases so i think it was interesting because you saw content. Moderation happen in real time and initially. Facebook twitter did with a usually did with trump's posting tweets which was a label to them which you know experts have said in the past. They felt was not very adequate on to his claims of voter fraud. And then you saw twitter limit. The reach of his tweets Like stopping people from re tweeting his tweets and them and then eventually saw the company's remove the posts and that was you know as violence continued to break out on capitol hill. They took the even stronger step of locking trump's accounts which prevented him from tweeting or posting on facebook. Facebook said the lock was indefinite and twitter. Said that he had to delete three violating tweets. After that there there would be like a twelve hour lock period and once that ended he Again so how. Unprecedented is this. The you know. The fact that facebook said trump's account would definitely be locked down for the next two weeks but also really called indefinite which suggests there isn't an end date cow. How a precedent. How big of a deal is this. It's a really rare step by the social media companies because in the past especially with facebook the company has had a mostly hands on hands off approach to political speech. They exempted politicians from fact checking and their rationale has been political speeches already heavily scrutinized and the public should have the right to see what the president is saying and twitter has taken a much tougher stance but they have something called a public interest. Notice where they will limit the sharing of the tweet and say that it violated its rules. But you could still see the tweet if you click through the notice. But this time. Both of the company's locked trump's accounts and pulled down his tweets because they said you know the risks of islands with much greater than public interests these steps as you note there big deal ends a big change of practice but is it too little too late for these companies and many sense. Yeah it was because the violence had already broken out. They were given a lot of warning signs before and they didn't take stronger. Action until after violence had broken out and so the companies got criticism from politicians including former first lady. Michelle obama on civil rights activists journalists saying they should either take stronger action or that. This was really something that they should have done a lot. Sooner because at this point damage has been done right. So let's talk about the role that social media's played in radicalizing people how all this online content motivate people enough to actually travel all the way to dc and stormed the capitol building so trump himself and his supporters were promoting this rally online. Like it was no surprise that there was going to be a big rally on january the sex and he's been pushing these baseless claims of election. Fraud sense you know. Joe biden was declared the winner of the next of the presidential election. So he's been sort of riling up his supporters By seeing the election has been stolen and even before the violence broke out there were already stories and researchers pointed out that there were calls for violence on various social media platforms and some of it was in social media sites where there's a large conservative base marvin echo chamber. So it's just a lot of anger being filled. Fueled by a lot more anger on social
Gallup Poll: President Trump And Michelle Obama Most Admired Man And Woman In America
"The most admired man and woman in America, the latest polling from Gallup shows that Americans you President Donald Trump and former first lady Michelle Obama as the most admired man and Woman in 2020 President Trump tied former President Barack Obama for the honor last year but edged out his predecessor this year. President elect Joe Biden finished a distant third. Meanwhile, Michelle Obama ranked as the most admired woman for the third year in a row. Vice President elect Kamila Harris is second edging out first lady Melania Trump. The Gallup polling also showed that 39% of those surveyed approve of the president's job performance in Washington.
The Audio Adventures of Harry & Meghan
"Less than a year. Since michelle obama's podcast lawn spotify have landed and other big proposition. Harry and meghan will be delivered into your is in the new year in the form of the incredibly uninteresting. Lee named podcast arch well audio Rebecca what is the show going to be about almost already forgotten it. E- hiring stories from inspiring people. It's you know it's corporate kind of stuff you know. They might not be working royals officially anymore but they certainly get involved in anything that's bit but dirtier a bit edgy. So it's going to be very lifting content An i i don't know unless they start sharing things about the personal lives. I don't know how to appeal. It's going to have in the long term. the style of it. I mean we only have a trade list. Go on so far but the style is notably. Podcast i'm not that corporate. We can eric lip sherie restore no say it. I think it sounds really nice. With your accent ultra. Ultra ultra audio. I mean rene shall we guys. I'm harry and meghan one of the things. My husband and i have always talked about is our passion for meeting people and hearing their stories and no matter what the story the usually offer you an understanding of where someone else's coming from and at the same time remind you in some way of a story about yourself and that's what this project is all about to bring forward different perspectives and voices. The perhaps you haven't heard before and find common ground different voices. Different perspectives could be less establishment an elitist than a member of the common ground. They must it's just i am no nothing against either of them personally and i'm sure it'd be perfectly listenable but it's the this idea that that telling stories that haven't been told as though there are hundreds of protestors out there who've been doing that for years Yes but i'm not. I personally don't resent them. You know someone who makes similar shows to the ones they're describing i. I've kind of always thought the most celebrities get involved in podcasting. Jimmy collins is everybody he does drive up listenership for podcasting and ultimately that's a good thing for everyone making cast rising tide carries ships. So something more in the sex is good. I mean things that knowing me arch well audio is production company. Name rather than the brand name. But maybe that'll be fixed later on show it will be. I mean people have said to spotify. They had problems with royalties so maybe this is their acquisition of gimli. I'm not gonna say it's paying off but this is another coup that at least uses some of the things that they bought because that style that informal so we just heard in the trial is meghan. Markle is season actress but even so to produce prince harry to sound like that. I imagine must've taken actually quite a lot of effort and that's the kind of thing gimblett. Good isn't it. I mean for for spotify. They they've got a blinder of year They signed up. A lot of people have acquired companies. They're positioning themselves that you have to basically use the spotify app as your podcast app because it will combine shows you can get publicly from. Rss feeds with shows exclusive to that platform. And this just like michelle obama on a job. Rogan will do that. And they're they're playing a blinder. Will it be a super successful show if it was them solving family problems. Why do you think it is the rebecca the four. I mean i'm using the short end of calling them royals. I know technically. They're not in the official practicing royal family but four royals. Why do you think podcasting would appeal. Where it's hard to imagine a royal. Even an excommunicated one doing a regular radio show. Tv show you know making would not be doing fine witchy quick answer probably because they can edited shit. You know it's very. It's very safe way for them to they can achieve things. They make themselves sound relatable polka like having a friend in your ears but also it's obviously going to be edited very carefully so it can be presented in this in the package. They've got in mind. I'm not gonna lie. I mean i might listen. If they drop a few hints about their private lives. I mean on that does their willingness to allow certain vetted meteoroid is asians access into their private lives contradict with what they're doing in the high court. I mean you know. They're suing associated newspapers. They're suing a picture agency for invading. Their privacy can they have it both ways yes. They need to make living but they are making a living by selling access to themselves. Well i think that's very in line with what they're doing that they have decided that it's going to be entirely beyond their own terms. And that's a mixture of legal giving exclusives owned media. Have got a documentary thing with netflix's well as they've got this spotify so yeah i mean i think it fits the pat now whether it works out. We'll see. I'm sure it'll be absolutely fine for them I think they also know that they've got to by being totally against the press which is pretty much what they are. They need access to their own media so social media. Podcast and the netflix tally to to get their own voices heard. They don't need the inbetween of the sun. The daily mail to communicate to the to the public and done that to you. They've created their own channels to to speak to subjects directly. It's interesting 'cause. I think we have seen recently a bit more of a celebrity. Push back against this idea that it is a trade off. I think you know for you know decades. We've accepted as fact this idea that if you're famous you owe us certain amount of your personal life. It comes with the territory and we've just kind of let that be you know. Just the fact. Yeah well now we're seeing push back. I think you awareness. That mental health has contributed to the celebrities. Are saying why who says you know. And i think having their own social media pocus platform etc has really boosted that movement towards no. I'll tell you what you can have. an from. Sports point of emu say work in terms of getting people to the platform. And i'm sure it will but they're investing so much money. Do you know how they judge whether it's a success. I mean what's the metric because way they make money is by converting into premium subscribers or selling them targeted ads. You know a jet for model to have. That's that's so poke. If you're spotify subscriber endanger ads on the music. You will still get ads on the po costs. So there's there's an ad model there. I'm looking forward to make an harry. Doing s- quest based and dodi shots but they will re reads the ads in michelle obama's show. Maybe they'll have a third person a stunt character. He'll do the reeds for them. Who knows some courtier. But that that's that's the market. I but for spotify a whole you remember the music. Pit doesn't really make any money but they need to do is shave. A couple of percentage points off the royalties. They pay all the volume that they pay the record companies to make the whole thing profitable so if i was them and i was saying hey only thirty percent of the audio consumed on spotify is music now when we come up to rights negotiation. We have another look at that so by being broader they have a few levers they can pull. It could actually make their operation much more. Profitable nothing postings. Partly way to do though
Obama memoir sells a record 1.7 million copies in first week
"Former President Obama's new book is shattering Records. The AP S Oscar Wills Gabriel reports on Obama's new memoir, A Promised Land has lived up to its promise that is of delivering book sales. Crown reports. The book by former President Barack Obama has sold 1.7 million copies during its very first week of release that is almost equal to the number of books sold by his two previous predecessors, George W. Bush and Bill Clinton. Combined. Obama's book move nearly 890,000 copies in its first day of release, and it's on pace to have one of the highest sales totals ever for nonfiction book, But that might not be enough to earn him bragging rights in his own home. Former first lady Michelle Obama's book becoming has sold more than 10 million copies worldwide, And though it was released two years ago, it is still on the current Amazon
Obama memoir sells a record 1.7 million copies in first week
"That's just flying off store shelves? Boxes. John SOC A As the story. The book is called the Promised Land, and it was written by none other than Barack Hussein. Obama, the former president's memoirs selling like a new Harry Potter. How about 1.7 Million copies in just its first week is a big numbers big enough That sales are among the highest ever for a non fiction book. Michelle Obama's becoming also a major hit. Selling 10 million copies worldwide since 2018 back in 2000 and seven author J. K. Rowling is Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows sold over a million copies in the 1st 24 hours of release, John Saucy, a Fox News and from the Rexall
Obama memoir sells a record 1.7 million copies in first week
"Former president Barack Obama's memoir is setting sales marks our promised land has lived up to its promise that is of delivering books sales crown reports the book by former president Barack Obama has sold one point seven million copies during its very first week of release that is almost equal to the number of books sold by his two previous predecessors George W. bush and Bill Clinton combined Obama's book move nearly eight hundred and ninety thousand copies in its first day of release and it's on pace to have one of the highest sales totals ever for a non fiction book but that might not be enough to earn him bragging rights in his own home former First Lady Michelle Obama's book becoming has sold more than ten million copies worldwide and though it was released two years ago it is still on the current Amazon best sellers list I'm Oscar wells Gabriel
Former President Barack Obama criticizes President Trump
"Presidency and the vice-presidency is bigger than any of us. So i have instructed my team to work as hard as we can to make sure that this is a sex successful transition for the president elect president obama four years ago showing professionalism and class to an incoming president who offered very little of that in return so perhaps it's a fitting final contrast for everyone to see. Donald trump is incapable of meeting that standard. You could call it. The obama enter. You could also just call it the typical presidential transition standard if you want but it is one more reinforcement of these times. We're living in tumult revolt. Fear an america veering between presidents. That are so obviously different. Obama to trump to buy the former president waited deliberately until after the results to offer some more personal candor about all of this. Obama has intentionally held his long awaited presidential biography until after this race a choice that would of course keep the spotlight on the democratic nominee and the current president obama made that choice of course before he knew the nominee would ultimately reflect his own choice back in two thousand eight for who should be president if not him. Joe biden and as part of this new book tour. We are now hearing from obama for the first time about some extra donald trump as a severe aberration when donald trump won. I stayed up until two thirty in the morning. And i then called donald trump to congratulate him his margin of victory over. Hillary clinton wasn't greater than half. Joe by martin over him i think about john mccain calling george and laura bush welcoming you and michelle obama to the white house interest not have been more gracious. Everyone knows obama doesn't really take a lot of cheap shots if anything his own. Supporters have been frustrated sometimes now measure he can be he will look for any reasonable interpretation of opponents actions. He'll try to think through their views. He'll discuss that in public. I think those traits actually made him an excellent writer and lawyer by the way so it is notable that today and these new remarks obama does not even see any reasonable way to cut donald trump emotional or theoretical slack. Barack obama is not joining this odd snowflake chorus of enablers who say donald trump needs days and days of processing time that no other politician ever gets or the conservatives who suddenly think one man's delicate snowflake ary and narcissistic foolery should hold up the national security transition of this country. No no sir. Today in these two interviews barack obama hits the stakes and the costs of donald. Trump's failed to concede and active choice to fan misinformation. Which could hamper civic life for a long time to come. They appear to be motivated in part because the president doesn't like to lose and Never admits loss. If you're listening to some of the talk radio that trombone are listening to if you're watching fox news if you're getting these tweets. Those allegations are presented as facts. So you've got millions of people out there who think of there must be cheating because the president said so. Where do we go from here for. President obama is telling everyone it's bigger than trump addressed his top republicans abdicating their responsibility. They obviously didn't think there was any fraud going on because they didn't say anything about it for the first two days. But there's damage to this because what happens. Is that the peaceful transfer of power. The notion that any of us who attain unelected office whether it's dogcatcher or president are servants of the people. It's a temporary job. we're not above the rules. We're not above the law. That's the essence of our democracy. that's deep. The jobs are temporary. we are all temporary. What we're trying to build to on our best days democracy injustice. That's permanent.
Election 2020 Analysis: Bethany Mandel, Ron Kampeas
"Mandel is an editor writer and podcast at ricochet and online hub. For conservative conversation she's also a rising social media star and conservative columnist. Who has garnered quite a bit of attention. In recent months decrying the government overreach of quarantine restrictions and going from being a never trumper in two thousand sixteen to supporting the president's twenty twenty reelection in a recent column in the forward she talks about why pollsters trying to project the election's outcome got it so wrong once again but don't expect this conversation to be a breakdown of methodology and shifting demographics. Her explanation is much simpler than that and she will explain bethany. Welcome to people of the pot. I think you so much for having me. I'm sorry for the puppy noise. You might hear in the background okay. Now before we begin. I want to remind our listeners. Ajc is a nonpartisan five. Oh one c. Three not for profit entity that neither endorses nor opposes candidates for elective office. So anything i say or ask or challenge really is in pursuit of an explanation. Because i do want our audience to listen so bethany for those who did not read your column. Tell us why. Pollsters predicted a blue wave that we did not see in last week's election so i think that there's going to be a lot of explanations that become clear over the next few months there might be problems with the way that they call people how they call people but i noticed anecdotally and i was saying for months beforehand the most simple explanation for why i thought that it would be extremely close or why the president would garner. Reelection is just because people were lying because they didn't feel comfortable telling the truth and when they would get a call who you voted for from a stranger because you don't actually know who upholstery is. And you can't confirm their identity on the phone When they get a call from pollster hi. I'm just curious for you're voting for. They're not going to tell you on the phone who they're voting for. And in my column i give a story that i thought was really illustrative of my thinking on it coming up prior to the election. Which was i have a. I have a girlfriend who lives in a swing state. i think it's north carolina. And i asked her at the outset of our conversation who e-voting for just sort of in passing and she said. I am still undecided. I don't know what to do and we had a very long conversation. And what we're really talking about was actually. She was doing a conference that got cancelled by a social media. Mob and people were falsely accused of racism. Yada yada and the entire six months of work that she did for the conference just went up in smoke and and it was cancelled and so we were talking about that. And i said this is the kind of stuff that makes people vote for trump. Because he talks about this. Like social media mobs the cancel culture in all these things and i was kind of laughing about how this experience would make her into a trump voter over the course of our conversation. I said yeah. I'm voting for trump this summer on. I never thought i would have done that for years ago. And she was like wait. A second you are and i forgot that. She doesn't follow me on social media. She doesn't know. Sort of where i fall and i said yeah my buddy for trump and she was like oh i am too. I mailed ballots in weeks ago. And she's a friend of mine and we were having an hour long conversation and it was only after i told her that i was voting for president trump that she admitted that she was as well. And so we finished texting. And i looked at my husband and i said the polls were wrong. If this woman who i've known for five years didn't feel comfortable telling me who she was voting for until i told her there's no way we'll no much was made that there were fewer undecided voters in this year's polls but also sounds like what you're saying is that there was even smaller number because those who said they were undecided or at least some of them voted for trump right or they were lying and they said they were voting for biden instead. I i think that that's definitely a possibility as well. Okay now why would they have said president biden. What been the reasoning there. That's the safe answer in this. Cancel culture environment that you know voting for vice. President biden was stackable incorrect dancer. But i think that I think that a lot of people probably unfit apply. I'm curious if you've gotten any feedback from people who read your column and said how dare you call us liars absolutely. Not every single person understood. Even i as someone who works in the media until the eleventh hour did not want to say i was voting for president trump. Because i knew that every time he does something stupid from then on out people with throw that calm back in my face and say this is what you signed on for whatever reality. I'm like. I signed a deal with the devil and i knew i was signing a deal with the devil and i'm not not raw about him. I'm not maga- it's it's an unfortunate situation and it is what it is something that really frustrated me in the wake of biden's election was people sort of saying koumba. Let's all come together and we're were you three years ago. Where were you last year. Why didn't you speak up for the covington. Boys and pete buttigieg was one of the people who was saying it and your staffer. Literally making lists of trump administration employees to blacklist them and to strip them of their livelihood and i think people across the spectrum have different opinions of people who worked in the administration. I know a million of them and they understood the deal that the that the devil that they made to and they were trying to uniformly serve our country and to mediate. Trump's trump. Nece and i think they did a great job and i am appreciative of the work that they did in every single department they worked in and they made it possible for us to come out of the last four years. Fine we're fine as a country and pete bridges people. His former staff are making lists of all of these people and pitas coming out. And saying you know. Let's all come together. I'm like okay. Put your money where your mouth is and publicly denounced what your staff are doing. Where is that being reported. I don't know where it's being reported. It's called the trump accountability project. And if you google it. I'm sure only conservative media are covering it because that's how it is. They had a website called trump accountability project. And it's time for people to put their money where their mouth is a little bit on this and no one is and michelle. Obama tweeted something the other day. That was you know. Half of americans who voted for him are x y. You know the whole litany of and this is not. I don't know how you move forward. When that when the former first lady is impugning the motives of half of the americans that voted for for trump. And you're not. You're not voting for racism. You're not voting for you. Know i think. I think that's a really simplistic way of looking at things. And it's also a really divisive and toxic way and if biden wants to actually move forward in a kun-bae off fashion say something about what michelle obama tweeted now. I want to reiterate what you said at the beginning. Bethany that this is just your theory. it's based on anecdotal evidence. There are many reasons why the polls might not have panned out this year. But let me ask you this. Not all pollsters work for media some work for politicians who are trying to assess what their constituents want. Do you think people understand that. Not being truthful about their preferences might undermine the whole democratic process. Do you believe that so. That's an interesting question. Because in some part it undermines the thesis of my piece because we saw that the internal polling that was done by campaigns was actually far superior to that of the media companies. And i think that people are more apt to trust a cloister that is not in the media because people don't trust the media dot readily and that distrust has been well earned by the media but the internals that we can gather that the biden campaign was getting told them to go to georgia and it seemed like a crazy idea and they were right to do so. So i i think that the internal polls that campaigns had were better than the media hat by. I don't think it undermines the democratic process because is not essential to the democratic process. It just it gives campaigns some idea of where they should be focusing and what their messaging should be but overall the democratic process is completely hinged upon votes. And that's really what counts at the end of the day well bethany. Thank you so much for. Your thoughts really intriguing thoughts. I really appreciate that. And i hope our listeners. Think about it i hope. I hope you've given them food for thought. Thanks
Donald Trump is finished, but will 'Trumpism' prevail?
"It's been more than a week since the us presidential election joe biden of course has claimed victory whereas the president is yet to concede defeat but when donald trump eventually leaves office the question. We have to ask ourselves is is trumpism. Really finished after all the media conventional wisdom the new york times washington. Post the major networks. Cnn msnbc all that conventional wisdom is that the twenty twenty election represents a repudiation of trumpism and what's trump luckily to do after he leaves office well for more. Let's turn to patrick. J buchanan senior adviser to president reagan nixon and ronald reagan. Pat has been a regular fixture in america's opinion pages and cable television shows for generations. Ninety ninety two and ninety six pat buchanan ran for the presidential nomination of his party. The republican party on america first platform pass walking back to you between the lines. Good to your tom now. Let's start with the election itself to spotted trifecta of crises health economic racial the us congressional and presidential contests were very tight. How do you account for that. I think there were tight for this reason. The covid virus which hammered us in march and april and then all during the summer and full took the lodge. That's two hundred and thirty thousand americans and they induced an economic decline unrivalled since the great depression. And then you have to racial turmoil in the country. And the wake of the killing of george floyd in minneapolis riots. And and things like that. So he's really damaged trump in the eyes of the public and his administration and normally they would've killed any presidential candidate. But i will say that in the fall. When trump was further behind he basically one mechanic team won the battle against biden. It was surging at the end of the campaign but he did not get over the top or at least so far so i think what you can say is trump and trumpism won the campaign. They lost the election because of the burdens. They had to terry which were too happy to cross the finish line. And let's not forget that in the late up to the election the metric conventional wisdom the polls the pundits. They predicted a democratic sweep. A blue wave washing the republicans out of power capturing the senate and delivering an alleged democratic congressional majority if the democrats did indeed have a clean sweep of the congress and the white house what would radical progressive in the american takes. What would that have made if you had nancy. Pelosi in control of the house and chuck schumer and control. The should i which looks less and less likely now and preston biden into white house. Biden's problem would be the tremendous pressure from the progressive left wing of this party to impose his leftist agenda. The party home to the country in the first two years of his administration. And i think it would be virtually impossible biden to resist the democrats cheap to kill the filibuster. Which would eliminate the ability of the republicans to stop their agenda and we would be off to the races with medicare for all the green new deal statehood for puerto rico statehood for dc. Defunding the cops. Pack the supreme court the whole left wing democratic agenda. They would try to ram through with fifty one votes. In the senate and biden frankly would be restraining force because republicans wouldn't be able to do it if they lost the filibuster in the senate which is what. Barack obama urged the democrats to take away if they win the senate okay now bought and has pasta to sydney electoral college. Votes needed to win the white house now given that it's very hard to prove widespread electoral fraud pat. Why want trump just accept defeat. Here's trump is demanding that he be allowed to play out last play of the deal. Because i think he feels he has been treated horribly by the democrats and the liberals in the press and he's not gonna do them a favour. He's got a right to make sure. The counselor made and certain things happen by certain dates. He's not going to speed up the transition. It's not gonna be a pleasant transition at all. He's going to treat them the way they felt. They treated him when he came in with the russia investigation and all the rest of it. So i think what you're getting is. Trump is looking at upon this if it succeeds is a hostile takeover of the government of the united states. And he is acting to resisted with every legal constitutional weapon. He has so it's This is not a cordial country power at all. Okay but with dany. Before the nineteen sixty presidential election between richard nixon and john f kennedy. That was very taught. There was a lot of speculation about electoral fraud in texas and illinois. And that of course benefited. The democrats won that election now. Apologies for the very scratchy. Sound quality of these vintage news report from sixty years ago. but he's nixon. Your boss pat here. He is at four. Am at republican headquarters. After the election conceding. Defeat to and and results shows come in if the present trend continues If mr kennedy and senator kennedy will be the next president of the united states senators kennedy now. And i want you know that. Certainly this trend has continued and he does become our next president that he will have my. That's richard nixon conceding. Defeat john f. kennedy in nineteen sixty pat buchanan. Why can't trump do a nixon accept defeat graciously that at four am gathering. My wife was present. She worked for richard nixon and the nineteen sixty campaign and travel. The country would and the point is that was a different time in a different country. That america's today america's bitterly divided and one of the contributing factors is the is the belief correct in my view that donald trump was denied. Not only a good transition but donald trump was investigated by the fbi and during the transition. They went after his state of the fbi did and they had a two year investigation beach. Kim they try to defeat him then they tried to overthrow him. And i think trump feels this and he says i established nothing. They can go. I mean they can go too far as i'm concerned and we're going to run this old way out and make sure every ballot is counted and all the towns are accurate. And whether or not we're going to go to court and exercise our rights and we're not going to pretend otherwise that this is a pleasant for easy transfer of power this was a hostile takeover and trump's view. I mean they're campaign run against him former first lady. Michelle obama is already talking about the house and he could and racism and the rest endemic pain in what he come folks voted for. So i think look you gotta divided country and there's no sense pretending otherwise and trump is not gonna gauge any pretense.
The Refugee Crisis: We Have To Do More
"Chris. Thank you so much. For coming onto this podcast. Thank you for having me. I'm so excited to learn about your work Get your perspective on some of the current issues in this country right so i feel like if we talked about the shoes. The issues will disappear somehow. And we'll also talk about your upbringing. What sort of forces you think got you where you are right now so it. It's a it's a laundry list. We'll see if we can get through at least the important bots so i will start with what did do before you were the ceo and president of russian immigrant and refugee services. And what led you to your current role. Yes so. I served in the obama administration for five years. I was a senior adviser at the state department for three and then at the white house Servings policy director to first lady. Michelle obama for two After i came out of the white house. I actually thought that i was finally going to get a little bit of a break Moment catch my breath. But i actually ran for governor of maryland in two thousand eighteen election. Okay so let's talk about your role as policy director for first lady michelle obama. What did any initiatives that. You're most proud off during your tenure there. yeah Let girls learn was the first lady and president obama's joined international initiative it was the only international initiative that michelle launch while in the white house and i was especially proud of that program because it was very personal to me. My mother came to the us as a teacher ambassador She had me when she was forty. Two she got her phd when she z. To and so girls and women's education Had always been an issue that You know my mother cared about the chain grain. Did me as her daughter The opportunity to work on global girls education around the world but also here at home in the us. was an opportunity of a lifetime Sad to think that still today we have sixty two million girls who are not getting an education in terms of a secondary education and that is due to barriers ranging from cultural ones to menstruation to economic factors and so that opportunity to launch on the initiative. Which is actually The one shift. She really is singularly focused on now in her post white house. Life i think reflects the importance of it And its legacy krishnan talk about good education. At least i think of education for goods in developing nations right. i grew up in pakistan. So that's the first thing that comes to my mind but what does lack of education or lack of access to education look like in america and what are some of the challenges that people face in the us and don't talk about as much. Yeah i mean. I think some of the communities that we spoke to. Who were you know. Domestic americans were sometimes shocked to think about how this is an issue that was at home We have thousands of girls who drop out of school. Some of them return some of them. Don't a many of the reasons we see here in the us or related to who Economics a child who i started working after school and just to help the family A single parent be able to pay rent every month. Turns out that you know. Maybe the mother ends up losing her job and so the girl has to take on a full time job You know in some cases You know this is rarer but we do still have some cases of where girls education is not valued as much as the voice and so you know. The child will initially be homeschooled You know you still have parents who are fearful of sending their girls to school But that ends up. Meaning that the standard of homeschool is not adequate. And so if we actually were to apply tests You know that are a kind of a national standard. We couldn't say that. They actually completed their secondary education. And it's sad to think that arguably the us's the leader of the free world and yet we are still not able to educate oliver girls. This is so interesting and you bring up disparity between girls and boys education which to me is a total surprise when it comes to the us. Again i think of histon right. That's my reference point. And i do understand their cultural reasons for why people in pakistan specially boo hoo economically challenged would probably prefer boys to have education because of limited resources right. But i'd never thought this was happening in the us as well. Why don't we talk about it as much. Yeah i mean you know. There are some great groups that are exclusively focused domestically like a girls inc. Their focus is particularly city centers. Because that is where we see it more but honestly you can also see it in rural areas as well but the truth is here in the us. We feel as though you know. We've solved our education issues. Even the disparity in our educational systems that applied to both girls and boys that is driven largely by how we fund school. It's driven by property taxes right and you don't wanna talk about the fact that we have stepped away from this idea of education as a civic good
Election Day 2020: Rick Davis
"Joining us live is Bloomberg's Rick Davis, partner at Stone Court Capital has run a good number of campaigns, including John McCain's 2008 Rick Again. Thank you so much for joining us. My pleasure. Yeah, The Democrats seem focused on Pennsylvania Joe Biden yesterday back again today, Camilla Harris today saying it be decided they're Biden claims it's his first home. Polling has been good. But now the NBC Marist poll today shows it tightening. Where does this stand? Well, it's on the horse race side. You can't tell, but it's been a very stable election. Even in Pennsylvania, Biden held the lead anywhere from 4 to 10 points, depending on which poll and at what point in this campaign. But that's the nature of this campaign is so unusual is how little has really changed lately. I mean, when you were tracking polls and you're only you know, seeing Ah pointer to tightening or loosening in the course of an election. It shows you a very stable electric. In other words, people have made up their minds and we've seen in the last month. People are voting in record numbers during these early votes, And so my guess is Pennsylvania. I would say. Friends toward Biden because he's never been behind in any public or private survey I've seen, but you know, we're see what happens on Election Day. Yeah, Also Florida I mean, for the most part of Florida Early on, and who knows early eyes? It goes for for Biden. They're saying that it's over. Yeah. If Florida goes for Biden, there's really no way for Donald Trump. To find a path to victory mean Biden start with some of the Trump states that he won before pretty much in Hiss. Calm. Michigan, Minnesota, Wisconsin. These are all states that Biden is right now tracking an almost 10 in some cases, 12 points. So you take those states away from Donald Trump. And he can't afford to lose those Bay States and the biggest one that he Has in play 29 electoral votes is Florida now have the two things have the pollsters learned anything since 2016 number one and have the Democrats learned anything since 2016 I'll take the last one. First. What the Democrats learned is that they needed to pick their spots as to where they need to win in orderto get the necessary electoral votes and And Hillary Clinton's campaign spread themselves all over states that were completely unnecessary. They had people in Arizona and other places the week before the election thinking we're going to turn Red States blue. What? What Joe Biden has shown is the discipline to park himself. As you said earlier in Pennsylvania, every surrogate he has in the country was in there today. And he's planted a flag. If I win Pennsylvania, I win the presidency and I'm fighting here. And he has Ah, just in just in the past hour in campaigning, talking to young talking to students, saying that they that they are the key. I mean, the Democrats have needed, you know, asking that question to motivate young voters. Michelle Obama's been beating this drum now since Since 2016 the young have to be showing up. Are we seeing that they will Yeah, There are record turnouts bank on Which state you're talking about in Pennsylvania is one of them where under 25 8. Voters are starting to show up in much bigger numbers than they did in 2016. Now whether or not that follows on Election day. These are all the early voters that we can track. But if that follows up on Election Day, the young voters could actually make a big impact on the state like Pennsylvania. OK, let's and and the presidency, of course, is what everybody focuses on the most for very good reason. But But let's let's look at the Senate here. I mean, if you're a Democrat, and you're looking at this, you're saying, Wow, we have a really good shot that this could flip. Yeah, His Senate is ah, Titan. There's no question about that. Republicans have probably five or six states where they have likely swings to the Democratic side, potentially. And they only have one pickup in in in. Ah, Alabama. What is interesting? State toe Watch is Georgia. Not only do you have a Senate race up for grabs, But you have a special election for a senator to Senate seats up in Georgia this year. And Georgia has a funky law where you have to get over 50% of the vote, or you go to a runoff. And at this point, neither one of the incumbent Republicans there look like they're going to be able to get to 50%. So you could have the control. The Senate decided months later in a special election on top of the special elections you already have? Yeah, possibly in in January. Now now vote counting. Of course, you know, we hoped to see something tomorrow probably won't. But the president has said that he may claim victory on on election night anyway, both sides of lawyered up. This could be a mess as well. I don't want to be negative, Bob, but but this could be a mess. Well, The good news is states run their elections and so unless they decide to defer to the president states, which would be extraordinary, right? No, no state Tends to do that voluntarily, then they're going to count at their own pace. In fact, we've never had an election where the actual elections certifications. We're on election night. They always take days later. In order to facilitate all the ballot collection and count all the ballots, And then the state certifies. There's there. It just simply doesn't happen on election night in any election we've ever had. And so I think that most of the states if their discipline and they follow their own rules, they'll pay no attention to the president's protestations. He did this in 2018 during the Florida governor's race where he said, Oh, you know, all the votes were counted, and we ought to just move on. We're Yeah, we're going to have to leave it there. Thank you so much and will watch for you and David and Jeannie. With our special election coverage
Too Ambitious? How the Press Covers Female Politicians
"And today i have two of the best political minds joining us and today we're going to focus on election day. We are recording this eight days out. It is so crazy to even say that. But we're going to talk to them about the election. What they think. We'll see what we really seen with women this campaign cycle in particular so we have to start. Intrude biji fashion with asking both of you. How did you get started in politics. Teen. let's start with you while i got started in politics. Actually the way. I got started on especially women's equality. Politics was right out of college. I found myself after i graduated from college. I got married to a guy from chicago. That's how i got to illinois and working for state government in springfield illinois in nineteen seventy eight with was the year when we were trying to pass the equal rights amendment and illinois was the hotbed of american feminism. If you can believe that. And so i learned all about you know marching and organizing protests and we would stand in our our green and white while they anti forces were there red and white circling the rotunda of the state capitol building at mail was there and all sorts of folks and here. I was a young twenty something Really just swept up in all of it in. That's how it got started from there and never stopped just working on gender equity issues democratic politics. You know when you live in chicago democratic politics like i'll full-time full contact sport. So that always did that. As part of my work started a group called cook county democratic women which was the first organization to support jentzsch. Caskey for office is not an incredible congresswoman and one of our congressional leaders And along the way met a guy and talented wife. Long enough ago that the three of us can't remember when we first met. Which was barack obama and michelle obama way way way back in the early days of his political career and his and then from there i loaded. That's fascinating and with karen. I met karen when i had my first job in. Dc in two thousand eight. I was the assistant to the political director in care with during communications department and i could tell immediately. I'm like oh this lady. Don't take no bats. Well you know that. Was you know as much as i love howard dean because this was at the dnc. Under howard dean. You know you kind of had to get in his face trying to so in the morning. Communications meetings as a representative from the political department. And you just sit there. I'm like i'm just here. Take notes just passed the notes back to the political director. Karen ran a tight ship off. Thank you so much well so for me. I was. When i got of college. I was working at a facility. It was in the kind of downtown. La pasadena it was a minimum security facility for teenage girls and these girls were incarcerated. They with their children because they were either pregnant or had very small children and so as part of their deal they were allowed to be in this residential facility in their part of there was school as part of it by loved it but it was. It was incredibly hard and one of the things that made it so difficult. Was that a lot of these young women you know. They're learning had learning challenges that were related to many of them had been sexually abused They had been engaged things and they had because this was a time. This was the early nineties When we saw a real explosion and understanding of gang engaging culture in la i went to ucla and girls. Were you know this was a big thing. Right that Women young women were could be just as violent. Frankly what frustrated me was this. This facility would classify a lot of these young women as having learning disabilities that they didn't have as a way to get more money. And i was really angry about that because i felt like you know you're these kids already have disadvantages and you're to be listed as learning challenge or learning disabled. That's a whole other mark that at that time in particular was just going to set the set back even farther.
WTH #808: Crazy Uncle - The Lord Has Called It
"I. Hope Soon because he is he is now looks like a floating head on some shoulders his point. So they said that Obama was the Anti Christ. So how we get from him being the Anti Christ to Now. You pretty much at trump's the anti Christ. Groupama was still the antichrist's this guy this is trying to clean it up. Back Bro isn't that how to prophecy works. Right. Michelle Obama. Pat Continued and only the father knows it. So I'm not saying this is the second coming, but I am say there are things that people thought would be during a millennial tile with a coming of Jesus, but it will happen our lifetime and the next thing is the election is coming up in just a few weeks at which time. According to what I believe. The Lord told me the president is going to be re-elected. I'm saying all as getting vote vote for whoever you want to vote. The Lord is called it for Donald Trump Lords Code Lords called the election for Donald Trump he's reported it to Jim to Pat Robertson. I called him. Jim. Baker.
"michelle obama" Discussed on The Michelle Obama Podcast
"And. The other thing that. I kind of. Take away from our childhood. I think one of the reasons we get along. So well, the fact that I never felt like I was competing with you and I think that mom and dad did a good job of. Recognizing us as individuals, and so I've tried to do that with me and Sasha is like give them a moment. You note to show me who they are right because you know like I said earlier kids come here with a certain temperament I was always feisty. I was always internal perfectionists. Sasha's temperament is different from elise that's different from Italy your daughter that's different from avery and it's like you've got to give them space and parent the kid you have not the kid you want Ray and mom and dad were good about that. So I always felt secure in who I was and fine with who you were. Right you know your success was my success I wasn't competing with you. So I'm trying my best to make sure that me and Sasha feel like they're on the same team even though there are two girls and all that their success is each other success. That's all you have that. Relationship is special. What dad showed us is that in order to build meaningful relationships with people is that you have to show up for them. Relationships whether it's sibling or parent child or friend relationships, they don't happen through. Osmosis they happen because they make a decision to be very deliberate about. Connecting with people and the connection can look like a bunch of different things. Right it can be a phone call it can be taxed. It can be a whole dinner or set of conversations what what I saw in our father was that nothing replaces getting on the phone and calling somebody showing up for somebody. I. Know that if I call you and I need you, you will call me back. Right away. Yeah you may call back and go you okay but you show up and I want to show up for you. So that's what I would tell people. Yeah. That's like we learned that you gotta show up for people. That's that's a really one. That's a really good one you have to show up is absolutely right I can always trust who you are and I don't know that everybody can say that about their siblings you know mum. That I know I know who you are through through I mean that's that's the wish that I have for all of our kids is then all of our nieces and nephews on Mike our kids that they show up in the world. I don't care who who they are, what their titles are. I don't care how much money they make I don't care whether they're famous or not I want them to show up. With, empathy with consistency with honesty you with decency and if we if we can pass onto them. Those traits that our parents passed on to us I will tap out in view us as successful old people. When the TIME COMES I WANNA. Thank you my big brother Craig for taking time to be on the PODCAST. This is been an enlightening conversation full of fun and laughter and humor, but this was really enjoyable. Love you love you. Well. As you can see, I am so grateful for the relationship that I have with my brother to be to trust him. To be able to count on him to know that he's always gonNA show up for me. That's a gift I cannot replace. And so if you have a sibling in your life whether that's by blood or by choice, I hope that you'll take some time to dig into that relationship with them too. I bet it will be as meaningful for you as it was for us. Thanks so much for listening everybody and I will talk to you again soon. The Michelle Obama podcast spotify original presented, and produced by higher ground audio and collaboration with US productions. From Higher Ground Audio Dan Firemen Anna homes, and looked Moham- are executive producers. Geneeral is our editorial assistant. Adam Saks consulting producer. From dust like productions Mitchell Yussef is the executive producer. 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"michelle obama" Discussed on The Michelle Obama Podcast
"And political backgrounds and. WHO GREW UP Only knowing. A. Black Man as their president and I know this is frightening to some people out there that want to deny the impact of that These. Kids were raised to believe in a different kind of America and their parents were part of that instilling that belief. That all men are created equal I mean the people were teaching that around the dinner table and young women are being taught in ways now that they can do and be anything in other and they have fathers who are parenting them differently who don't believe that they should Joe, just go off and get married to the highest bidder but that they have to have their own voices and their own careers in their own autonomy. Those have been the conversations around the dinner table. These kids of all races were told that that was Merica and there's honor and truth. And now they're seeing the opposite. At. The highest levels you're seeing the very opposite of what they've been taught to be by their parents of all races. And they're seeing on social media on their phones and it is real and in and it is clear. The hypocrisy is right there. And it is hard to look away. It is hard to look away and that is change and my belief is that these kids will raise their kids differently. Assuming that we don't get so depressed downtrodden that we give up the fight. which is directly tied to voting. 'cause we roll over or we could just protest our way into oblivion. Absent the vote. But if we keep the momentum going in, send a message in this coming election of the America that we want for our kids then that next generation will be even better than we are. It is generational change and it feels a little scary now because we don't know what this is because we've been disappointed in the past right or things started to change and then. We just like with our administration. We thought we were going and run direction and didn't realize that they were still some underlying stuff going on some resentment in some beliefs and some old stories about who we were as people that were still out there. But why why wouldn't they still be out there and they don't go away by magic they go away by being replaced with other stories. So now, our challenges is that we've got to tell those stories and we have to start with telling our own. Loud and clear, and that starts with not telling it with our voice telling it with how we exist in the world by bringing our blackness and Brown and women nece to every table that we're in. We've gotTA bring it all to the table and say. Deal with it. Let's talk about it. Why does it bother you? Why are you afraid? But if we're hiding it and we make a comfortable, well our. Our white brethren never have to adjust because we're not asking them to So. We gotTA start asking him adjust. I can't be your only black friend. Where are the others? It has been a pleasure having you guys here on him. So proud of you. Happy Well as you can see, I am proud to count on China and Kristen and you nee in so many ways they are thoughtful empathetic and just plain old grave I am so incredibly impressed and proud by the women they become and are still becoming. And that's why I'm so grateful to count them as my friends the little sisters I've never had. So if you have some special people in your life, especially, if you're a little bit older than they are I, hope you'll take some time to talk with them and in here what's on their mind especially as we navigate this complex and draining process of wrestling with racial injustice? Even if you just listen especially if you just listen. Because this process of growth and understanding isn't something that's going to happen on social media with a bunch of memes in tweets and Lord knows our politics are not the best avenue for these kind of conversations but if we can reach out. And share our stories and allow each other to be a little vulnerable. Didn't maybe we can make some progress person by person relationship a relationship. Thanks so much for listening everyone, and we will talk again soon. The Michelle Obama podcast is a spotify original presented and produced by higher ground off Aaron collaboration with US light productions. From Higher Ground Audio Dan Fireman Anna homes, and look demo- Han are executive producers. Chennai memorable is editorial assistant. Adam saks is are consulting producer. From us like productions Michel Yussef. Producer Arwen next and Jonathan Shift let are the producers additional production support from Mary NAF. Jonathan Chifflet is also our engineer. Manica. Wilhelm. Is the archival producer and transcriber Rachel. Garcia is the dust light editorial assistant, Danielle AC, Don Ostrov, and Courtney hold are executive producers for spotify. Special, thanks to Mackenzie Smith Joe Paulson Christina Schalke Melissa Winter China Clayton Alex May Carolina Other Morales and Motto Skull and thanks to Clean Cut Studio Search Party Music Tyler Lechtenberg Dylan Rupert Caroline Lipka young creative agency and Dr. on his Aaron. Our theme music is by Stevie wonder original music by Andy Clawson and Telly Fresco. The song you heard at the beginning of the show is made it by Tian Taylor. Thanks for listening to the Michelle Obama podcast. Thanks to our sponsor salesforce with the right inspiration. Anyone can be a leader. That's why salesforce created the make chain series. Each installment is a chance to learn from business leaders and activists who are using their platforms. To make a difference. You'll learn how the turn ideas into actions and gained valuable insight for how you can to to view the series head to salesforce dot com slash make change..
"michelle obama" Discussed on The Michelle Obama Podcast
"michelle obama" Discussed on The Michelle Obama Podcast
"Deep pain is that you know still you know still Cecilia fray still we don't belong still still you try to put us in jail still. At us live in our lives, right going to church raising kids being president going to school all of that part before it's rewarded, it's questioned it's challenged how dare you be black and intelligent? How dare you try to be President? You know how dare you try to own your own business is like we keep playing by your rules. As I said you change the rules Why? Because we're because the hugh of our skin is different my God we aren't even try. It feels like we're aren't even trying to be better We aren't trying to learn. That's the frustrating thing because it goes on both ends because on the one hand I'm like, okay why folks still we're still here but I'm also. Black. Folks Women, young people we are not voting. I never thought electing Barack Obama would end racism in America. That wasn't I. You know I was too old be that naive maybe young people did believe that maybe young people thought you know having that one black man without a congress. And without a spirit supreme. Court. And without full control over three branch system was supposed to move heaven and earth and change at all in eight years you know I understand. Being confused by that if you don't know how this democracy works, but that may lead to confusion what does constitute change? How much work in coordination has to go in to move the needle just so slightly? into not get complacent because when you're moving the needle that slightly. You take your eye off the ball and it slips right back. Ours having a conversation yesterday it was just like our team was talking and we were talking about racism and like where it comes from like how did we get here like what is it about black people that scare why people so much and I was saying that it's really to me all about the power of storytelling of narratives and like when you were saying this idea that black. People aren't human is where it started. Then they were three fifths than they were property just this idea of lesser. This is like a story. This is like cultural heritage, the cultural heritage, the story of the birth of this nation. Yeah, and so on. One Hand, how exciting that you know we all have the opportunity to create other story storytelling is huge in culture right now no I. Think you make a good point about the stories we tell ourselves In we pray and we pray if we practice those stories over and over again becomes our truth and that's why it's so important to practice a different set of stories in order to get ours ourselves as individuals into a different mindset about ourselves I mean it starts from within right so you can't tell a better story about your community if you can't find a way to tell a better story about yourself, you know the the self doubt the the self hatred quite frankly that can go on among oppressed people, women, people of Color those that are not deemed to the top of the hierarchy those stories if we can't unravel that within ourselves and start there. Then we won't be able to see it in others who look like us. That's one of those. You gotTA. Love. Yourself I. You gotTA believe you're worth it to believe that your neighbor, the other the other woman across the way who looks like you. Deserves it to? and we just don't see those Jisr enough about ourselves I think we're doing better as a as a culture now we're seeing. A more diverse image of black people. You know the fact that insecure you know is. that. Is among our favorites. You know I mean to see Isa every week. On the screen living her life and making her mistakes and have it be just as ordinary as watching Karen. Tell Her story. That's that's powerful and I do want to take this conversation into the positive because. The truth is that is what progress is that something that I tell you guys all the time it is the progress of generations. It isn't the progress of one or two presidential terms. That's four years. That's eight years. That's nothing. But the progress of a generation is is really powerful and I think we're seeing that on display in the midst of these protests. This is the first time in my life that I've seen such diversity. Of people out there you know of all ages and races unique is you ask is like, how do you keep from being resentful? It's like well, we have to stop and look at what is happening right because there is something about this moment. That is a tapping into the humanity of more than just the people who have been victimized by in a way that I haven't seen since the civil rights movement and China maybe that is because we are now sitting in all of us you know not just you and me but we're all on quarantine and and we are all unable to turn away. But whatever it is that it is a sign that that humanity is there in all of us. And it's also something that Barack and I have talked about. This generation. Was the Obama Generation, these kids of all races.
"michelle obama" Discussed on The Michelle Obama Podcast
"So I wanNA thank Valery not just for joining me today but for everything she's been for me in my life and for so many people who've worked for her and with her over the years as you can tell, she is someone that understands to her core that when you make it in this world, you have got to reach back and lift up other folks who will one day step into your shoes and that doesn't just mean if you're in the White House or the C. Suite or any lofty position. It also means taking on the responsibility anytime. You've got someone out there who's looking up to you. Maybe you start at your job couple months before the newest higher maybe there's someone in the great behind you who's looking for some sport. Maybe. There's a kid growing up down the street who just likes the way you carry yourself. No matter who it is or where it is what it is you have an opportunity and a responsibility to make those kinds of connections. And if you find yourself. For, someone to learn from and lean on. My advice is to take that first step of introducing yourself to the folks rounding. Ask Them for coffee for set up a meeting ask them whatever questions you have on your mind. Do whatever you need but just make sure you do it. Because once you start a conversation, there is no telling where it might end up. So, thanks again for listening. Talk to you soon. The. Michelle Obama podcast is a spotify original presented and produced by higher ground audio in collaboration with dust light productions. From Higher Ground, audio Dan Firemen, Anna homes, and looked demo- han are executive producers. Janine memorable is our editorial assistant. Adam saks is are consulting producer. From dust like productions Michel Yussef is the executive producer, Arlen next and Jonathan. Shift Flett, are the producers Additional production support from Mary NAF. Jonathan Chifflet is also our engineer. Manica Wilhelm is the archival producer and transcriber Rachel Garcia is thus light editorial assistant Daniel. Act Don Ostrov and Courtney Holt are executive producers for spotify. Special thanks to Mackenzie Smith Joe Paulson Christina Schalke Melissa Winter China Clayton Alex May Carolina Other Morales. Skull and thanks to Clean Cut Studio Search Party music, Tyler Lechtenberg, Dylan, Rupert, Caroline, Lipka, young, creative agency, and Dr on his Aaron. Our theme music is by Stevie wonder original music by Andy Clawson and telly fresco. The song you heard the beginning of this show is the night song by Raven Linney. Thanks for listening to the Michelle Obama podcast. Thanks to our sponsor salesforce with sales forces make change series. You'll find strategies for transformation and learn about the innovative strategies. Business executives are using to improve the state of the world here how to turn thought leadership into action and get inspired to use your platform for change. View. The series had to salesforce dot com slash make change..
"michelle obama" Discussed on The Michelle Obama Podcast
"What you describe in your approach and your marriage, you know just speaks to why we have to learn to cultivate empathy. In people in our children because you need it to be successful in life in relationships because what you were talking about is essentially saying looking at the person you love in the eye and going I have to understand your context. So I can understand where that frustration where that anger where that joy is coming from and then speak to that. You know one of the things it makes me think about is that when you're in a marriage you do. Not Have the luxury of making the person in other you just don't have that luxury because you have to make this work. Yeah. There's the nuclear option of I'm out. Let's get a lawyer but a lot of people do that a lot of people do that. But for the most part, even people that have gone through a divorce have to still see that other person as a person and we've all had really good friends that have done really stupid things. And we've stuck with them because they're our friends and because it's a human being to us whereas if we were just hearing about them on MSNBC or Fox News, we could dismissed them. If, if we wanted to and I think it's just about being really close to someone you don't have that luxury you don't have the luxury of. You have to work it out. You just have to you. One of the reasons why I'm having these conversations about the importance of relationship in defining ourselves is that the core of who we are is built up of all these pieces our relationship with ourself our relationship with our family, our siblings, our spouses, our peers are co workers, you all of that conceptualizes us and gives us substance, but we don't take time to explore that to understand it. To understand how it impacts us. As a comedian you're whole profession requires insight, right? you observe and understand, and then interpret in a funny way what is going on in the world around us And we just can't take that for granted that work has to be done. i. i WanNa thank you Coenen for Oh my God. This is your incite. Yeah. Well, pick and choose the ones you lying and. Throw away the rest but Thank you. Thanks for having me. I had so much fun with Conan. Hopefully you did too. For those of you who are married, maybe you heard something that rang true and for those of you aren't I hope that conversation gave you a sense of what marriage might actually feel like or what you might WanNa be looking for in a partner. But no matter what I hope this conversation gave you a chance to listen not to me in Conan but to yourself to that little voice that tells you if there's something you want to work on or work through with yourself or with your partner, those realizations open you up to journeys that aren't always easy. But. They are always always worth it. So, with that I just went. Thank you for joining me Conan and thank you all for joining me for this part of our journey together. I will talk to you again very soon. Take care. Michelle Obama podcast is a spotify original presented and produced by higher ground audio and collaboration with a slight productions. From Higher Ground Audio Dan Firemen Anna homes, and looked Mohan are executive producers. Today memorable is our editorial assistant. Adam Saks is consulting producer from dust light productions, Michel Yussef is the executive producer. Win, next and Jonathan Shift are the producers additional production support from Mary NAF. Johnson shift is also our engineer. Manica Wilhelm is the archive will producer and transcriber breach Garcia is the dust light editorial assistant Daniel Ac don, Ostrov, and Courtney hold are executive producers for spotify. Special. Thanks to Mackenzie Smith. Joe Paulson Christina Schalke Melissa Winter China Clayton Alex May Carolina other. Morales, and Madan Halima skull. And thanks to Clean Cut Studio Search Party Music Tyler Lechtenberg Dylan Rupert Caroline Lipka Young Creative Agency and Dr on his Aaron our theme music is by Stevie wonder original music by Andy Clawson and Telly Fresco. The song you heard at the beginning of this show is love me right by sister. Thanks for listening to.
"michelle obama" Discussed on The Michelle Obama Podcast
"During our white. House. Time one of the the the programs that I was most proud of was our mentoring program that we had in the white. House You know we didn't make that public because that was something that That we wanted to do because we felt we had an obligation of living in the most famous powerful address in the land. What were we doing the as the first lady and his senior advisors to the President Women in this administration? What were we doing to actively lift up young people not working for us or interning with us but you know young young women in high school who were trying to find their way and we started the white. House. Mentoring program and Barack had a companion program for young men. But you were played a big role. You were one of the you know more powerful and more important. Mentors. I'll tell you a story. I'm not even sure I've ever shared this with you. But the first group of Mentese that we brought in were all down on the first floor ground level of the residents waiting to be invited up to to meet you. And I walked from the West Wing on my way to the reception luncheon that we had for them, and so I had to walk through the crowd and they were they were so emotional about meeting you. Many of them were in tears. Typical teenage girls had no control over their emotions because you weren't there. They felt free to just a hobby and screaming and they were a hot mess before they went him. Smith. But they compose themselves to go upstairs in what I remember. So vividly about you and you have talked about this a lot. Is it for the moment they met you. You are so present in their life. And you you've talked about the fact that you don't know whether families were present. What kind of circumstances they were living in all you knew is it for that time that you connected with them you wanted them to know that. You've. Out. UTHA. and. You could just feel them relaxed because at all, she's a Muslim she's just like normal. and. So I think the program it was about the intimacy of that connection. And that was the piece of it that I enjoyed hearing their stories and you know teenage girls they'll talk you just have to like Oh. Yeah. Why I'm up but that and the thing the program did you know the reason why? I like formal mentorship programs especially with young people, it takes time for them to warm up and to reveal themselves. It doesn't happen over the course of a meeting I don't. Care, how open you are our mentorship program was heightened version of that these young kids were being brought into the White House and they were meeting with the first lady at the time and that was really heady but that's true for any you know relationship with young people it takes them a second to ease into themselves to start opening up because they don't know what they can trust you just because you're. The first lady just because they don't like minded parliament as I don't know these people I don't know if they're serious I don't know if they'll be here. I don't know so. So the consistency of formalized mentorship program, it reinforces to young people that you're serious about your investment in them, and my point would to them always was if you can walk into the White House and look the first lady in. The eye with confidence and share your thoughts and ideas and share some popcorn and laugh. If you know if you can feel your growth getting comfortable in the most powerful house in the land, there's nothing you can't do. There's no place you can't go 'cause you've been to the mountaintop and you've looked power in the eye and and you were part of this mentoring can be that powerful and formal consistent mentoring. Can Change the trajectory of a child's life. We have seen it again and again, and again even if they don't end up in a certain place, it changes the fabric of how they see themselves in the world and my thing is if we could do it in the White House under some challenging times I know that every corporation every bank, every office. You know everybody out there can think of a way to do something formalized like that for the young people in their communities. And I will say one of the thing outside of the formal mentorship program that you that you to did is it when you touched people, it was never the drive by some example when you embroiled Gwen to Indian country and you meet those teenagers who had. Suffered so much the suicide rate in the high school I know is off the charts and what did you do you invited them back to the White House not once but again, then we wouldn't Chicago and and Barack with a group of. Students were High Park High School. In this becoming a man program before they even wasn't my brother's keeper and then he invited them to the White House around Father's Day and I'll never forget one of them gave him a card it said. It was a follow say card they actually they also sign the cart and one of the kids said to him. You know I've never signed a father's Day. Card anybody. And Brock said needed. Well the powerfulness of that moment in those young.
"michelle obama" Discussed on The Michelle Obama Podcast
"Make change. So let's talk about the state of things now. Sort of we are because, yes, we are still in the midst of a semi quarantine ish because the world is responding differently that, but we believe in science. So we are still taking the corona virus very seriously but we're also in a time learn. Once again, we are dealing with racial strife, blatant signs of injustice things that people naively thought were all taken care of issues that had gone away in America and around the world and low and behold here they are black men, black people still being killed on the streets black folks poor, folks, Brown folks dying at higher rates from a virus and not much going on. Let's check in how are you feeling as young women women of? Color, I'm angry. I think I'm more angry at the fact that so many people like. Ignore what's going on right I feel this responsibility to no longer stay quiet right like things that bothered me or the fact that people want to ignore because they don't know what to say to just be like this is what it is. I'm a black woman you are going to recognize what is going on and how I'm feeling you don't have to your experience, not my experience and I would like I know that you're going to address it I think for me. It's interesting because this is Kinda like the first time I. Feel like I've been physically in a room with you guys. Since this all happened and you guys this my grandfather who was a black man passed away from covid. As a family we're dealing with that for six weeks, the ups and downs of that whole experience. You Know My GRANDPA was ninety four. He lived a long life and there are hundreds of thousands of people who have family members who passed away who are young. I'm angry too I go through these really interesting moments of like trauma I think and we texted a little bit about this but there's this. Trauma of just being black in America that you're seeing on social media, there's trauma of watching people kill you people who look like you based on how? They look and having a brother who you know God forbid he ever got pulled over is not gonNA have Chil-. He's not going to be somebody who as brother is an either plenty of my friends brothers aren't then also the trauma like watching white people process it. Has Been It. That's sent me over. There've literally been days in the past weeks where I have been watching. Social Media. There was this one clip that was floating around in this really brave young girl. She's a teenager. She was a white girl trying to convince her parents not to be racist like that black people weren't all. Whatever adjective they wanted to come up with. I literally had a panic attack for about fifteen seconds and then has pulled together for a call to get on a call. And so justice idea that like the humanity of people was being discussed or defended or debated that that's a conversation that we don't have that we've never had. So I'm tired I'm exhausted I will just 'cause we'll be vulnerable. I'm probably like Elizabeth wrote about this in her Essay Elizabeth. lizzie killing it in the New Yorker But you know that we probably all have very low great depression. The that is obvious from insecure the TV show, which is brilliant and I think they do a great job addressing not just mental health directly but also this low grade like we're just not happy nobody's happy in our community. And yes I'm exhausted ally and I'm trying to work what has been helpful is. I do feel like our agency right now is doing important work. We employ black people by the grace of God are we've been able to stabilize our business through Kobe? We've been able to pay our workers every paycheck which is really important to be an Ra and we continue to get work in be able to continue to employ people of color. So that feels good. That feels meaningful that fills significant an important that keeps me going why get out of bed but. It's a lot and I think it's a lot to be quarantined and not be able to be in conversation with loved ones. We typically would be in this room right now. Well, that's why this this podcast is important. Yeah. because hopefully, it will give people an opportunity to hear to listen to process to share China I see you write notes over there. I think for me a feeling that I haven't been able to shake is guilt. And it's guilt when it comes to the coronavirus because I feel like I'm now at a place where I'm a few steps removed from my old hood and I know that there are people in that neighborhood who may not bounce back I have the opportunity to bounce back from and feel guilty because of that because I'm not in that same position anymore. There's a guilt that comes with. The you know the the protest and seeing you know these black folks being abused and killed by police officers because. I'm trying I'm trying to process why. When I initially saw these videos of the Sandra Bland's Fil. Why I didn't feel the same anger and hurt you know when I first saw them that I'm feeling now and I think a lot of that has to do with the pandemic in the mere fact that I am forced to sit in it and sit with it whereas before it was business as usual. You saw it you're like damn another one and then you kept going. But right now since everything is at a standstill, you know I'm processing these things a little bit more in depth than I ever have before and there's a guilty feeling there. There's a guilty feeling of. Feeling as if I've failed Gen Z. Because I wasn't out there protesting and making sure the stuff was corrected prior to them being involved Emam you and I had this conversation. Of just the mere fact that the world was a little different back then we thought we were headed in the right direction. Things felt a little better. So my my activism back then was being part of your husband's campaign getting him in the White House and making sure he was elected you know but. I just feel very guilty. What do we do as black women.
"michelle obama" Discussed on The Michelle Obama Podcast
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Charter, member charter member. But you at least have experienced that point on parenting that I'm at where kids are. Well, we were supposed to be empty nesters. But. How does it feel Craig Seeing, Adrian? Leslie. You're older adults you know to see them at the end of that cycle with all the hard work that we talked about all the love all the the teaching and the caring to see them then. Enter. Into the world because every is a grown man will now now that I can sort of look back on what it's like to raise adult kids kids who have become adults I realize what mom used to always say to us about. I'm just GonNa give you all I can up and then at a certain point you guys are on your own and to to have two that are on their own and able to take care of themselves. They both are are capable and and there are good people in good relationships. There's a sense you know Kelly I talk about this all the time. There's a sense of satisfaction that we've got those two going and it really makes us feel good about the little to for us. There was that just that emotion when it's like the actual goodbye I mean the process getting them ready and dropping them off. College was the next natural. They, they had outgrown everything else about their lives and they were ready to go and you know that and that felt good if but there is that La- that actual when you leave them, drop them somewhere and you leave your loss and you pull off. With Maleeha you know we we held it together. You know sort of. We have broken two different ways of dealing with that and. I just had a list of things to do I was unpacking the room we're making the bed were cleaning were getting the dorm room ready we had things we were you know I was occupied and Barack was he was all out of it because he really didn't have a job you know. So we had we had to give him a like a make job like, hey, why don't you try to put this lamp together like the lamp was already put together you know it really does needed to be screwed and. Yeah and he he was thinking. Yes. This assignment and then he realized this is just make work. He completed assignment and like five minutes and then he was like you know okay. Now what. But we took me to to lunch and then we were leaving 'cause you know with all that we brought to college campus having us stay longer was not going to be helpful. So we were pretty much in and out in fact they let her move in a day early too so that you know are commotion wouldn't be in the midst of everyone else moving in that moment when she left the restaurant and we got in our car to go the airport, we tried to hold it in and then I heard Barack over the side just to. You know that SORTA. Yeah you know and and Alan his agent passed a handkerchief back to a music. Thanks man. and we both just you know that we both shed some tears just him but me because they were just something about the actual leaving her even though she had been asleep away camp and she traveled and she they're just something about that. Baby is now like she's gone little did we know they'd be back so soon? given the pandemic and then we were better with Sasha. But still right at that same moment when we are departing and all of us are leaving and she is staying, there is a little choke up that while this is this is a real milestone in their lives. Being a parent. Has taught me so much about myself. I'd I think that? So much of who I am is not just about the parenting you gave me but the experience of trying to pass on these things to my daughters who are these two very individual people and learning about me through them. That has been one of the most important over any kind of job any kind of education. Any kind of degree that I ever had being a parent has been the biggest growth point for me. Being a parent is such A. Pleasant surprise it's been such a pleasant surprise because there is something. That Dad wasn't alive to see any of our kids. But there is something about each and every one of them that reminds me of Dad Somehow. And that's just the culture that we've sort of built that he started. Well I think I want you know particularly because I know we have a diverse audience in as we're in the midst of these protests black lives matter. You know this is the frustrating thing for. Mo- for black people. Because what we know is our truth, which is we are the norm. We are family is what black families are. Black neighborhoods want to interrupt you but no, if you remember generations before. We bought into the propaganda they were teaching us about ourselves You know what they said about us, a lot of people believe that. Even us and reacted in in that way. So we are getting to the point now where. We know who we are. We know recapable love and all that stuff that you were pitching. Is True. But what do you make of what's going on? You know where we are as a country, you know how these young people are out in the streets protesting. The whole issue of police brutality because we've we've talked about these kind of issues growing up the time that Craig you about ten had your new ten speed bike that mom and dad bought you, I. Re I still see vividly as yellow. Tint speed it was Goldblatt, S- from Goldblatt right but you were riding down the street and you got stopped by the police and they accuse you of ceiling your own Bike Ryan. They would not believe you to the point where you were like, take.
"michelle obama" Discussed on The Michelle Obama Podcast
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Don't know any men who could possibly conceive of what that feels like. If. We can acknowledge what's going on with us. We can't fully celebrate just how amazing we are. We got a hold channel dedicated to men throwing a ball and hoop. and. I Love Sports. I love watching men play Sports I. Get it, but there should be. Some birthing channels were. Just some. Did you see what she did? Did you see that little woman push a ten pound baby out let's give her aware. It's her espy or there should be an award ceremony. When you think of all that a woman's body has to do over the course of her lifetime going from being prepared to give birth to actually giving birth, and then having that whole reproductive system shutdown and menopause right the changes, the highs and lows in the hormonal shifts. Power in that, but we were taught to be ashamed of it and to not even seek to understand it or explored for our own edification. Let alone to help the next generation. And then after you go from that after you've given birth, then your children become your priority. So still there's still this point at which. He can say or when is it my turn and this is I think the good news about menopause. Is that. Even the getting there is complicated and you know it may be the first time in a lot of women's lives when you're not tied down by the other things or. They're just part of day to day life the notion of to present yourself. To someone other than your truly authentic self. kind of fades away you know. You just get to say you know this is this a you know I have changed and tried to adapt and I've been accommodating accommodated my husband accommodated society of accommodation my children. Now I'm done who? When I turn sixty I said to myself. You know I'm going to give myself this gift and the gift is I'm going to say, yes to everything I wanna say, yes to and no to everything I? Don't and I don't think I've ever in my life giving myself permission to and let's stop there so that the men that could be listening to this here this because they start doing that when they're twenty. They adopt their that philosophy mudge earlier in their lives men it takes us until we're fifty or sixty right to feel free enough physically and emotionally to be able to say I'm going to think about what I want and say, yes and no to the things that that bring me joy or turn me off. Right it takes us a lifetime to get there it does. And some people unfortunately never give it there. You know we are. Accommodating because that is how that is what is required of us to get you know you say you know sex for a woman, you have to have another person into your body. Another person pregnancy means you've got to share your body with another human being for nine months, and that is a level of accommodation that you realize that that's why we're always second because there's always like I've gotta keep this here. I've gotTA. Keep. This then you get this baby. I'M GONNA keep this baby alive because it's a lot harder than it looks. But you know I I look at it now, and I think about it said First Time that we're not having to accommodate other people and I think that's a beautiful thing and I. think that's how women should really look at menopause. Don't think it think of it as the end of things it's the beginning of things as the beginning of your new chapter or as I like to call we're entering? Our third trimester. Of Life. One, of the things we've talked about. I'm finding as I get older. Not, just dealing with pause but dealing with. What what does health mean for a woman of our age? Right so you know there's that right but then I think backwards and I think what's what is what is being healthy mean for women period and we've always talked about how there's so many conflicting messages out there about weight about. Mostly about weight right first of all, because it seems to be that that's the only thing from a PR standpoint that people tend to care about. But we don't sort of have a real clear baseline for what health means for a woman women's value goes up with how little space you take up. You know. So the smaller you can make yourself the the higher perceived socioeconomic group that you're in whatever it's all about being thin but you're right being thin and being healthy are two completely different things. I'm going to focus more on function then form. You know. So what you look like and how much you weigh is less of an issue particularly as you get older because the question is, what can you do? What's your function Levin White, and also we come with different skeletal structures you I am five eleven and I have hips and thighs and I can look over my family and I can see that's genetically who I'm supposed to be. We spent a Lotta time being unhappy with our in our physical selves. My breasts are too small to me. This is to what that would look better if I had on and on do you know a woman who's happy.
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"But I mean. But that's the other thing. It's like that wasn't your job. You know I mean. So while we teach you about being lenient I mean the point is, is that having being able to be that grandma for them in that environment where somebody was always there advocate and sneaking them a little extra candy and letting them stay up. You did that as you always said because you knew that I was being the disciplinarian I think the girls did really well with what they had to deal with. You know they ended up being. They would all secret service and all they pretty much just went about their. Schoolwork as just a normal child know even though the secret service were standing outside their door. Yes I just walked by him and go on and I really think it's a real testament to all three of you. You Mom me brock that they ended up being so well adjusted behind all of that because I, it's you know we we got a taste of it from far right but I can't even imagine being there all the time because it was stressful for us to come visit. So I I just don't know what it would be like to raise children. In that sort of official nece and pomp and circumstance, and so I think you guys have done a wonderful job because both me and Sasha have turned out to be wonderful young ladies and very well adjusted giving given what they. What they had to deal with right at a very important developmental point in their lives. I always tried to make sure that I wasn't pouting. In front of the kids when I wasn't there because they didn't they loved him but was like, well, he travels he's not here right now this is what he does. If I had made a big deal out of it and said, Oh my God your Dad's not here again he's missing this or oh I just wish and i. then that's the signal to them. Well, this isn't normal thin I should be upset about this dad's late again, you know But. I've found that especially in the White House when there was a demand, it's like we we worked even as BR brought being the president of the United States, he worked his schedule around their schedule. They weren't waiting until nine o'clock at night to eat because dad was running late. They didn't. They didn't. They never could not go somewhere or do something because of debt. and. I never wanted them to resent the presidency or rent what their dad did and I always thought. Well, they would if their lives were put on hold. For things that he had to do. So they adapt it to him. Being gone him traveling around the country they adapted to me being campaigning.
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"No, she's not good enough for that program. Those little cuts. that. We Experience Women experience them in higher at higher rates than men, black folks in higher rates than others of these little bitty cuts and slights that we experienced throughout our lives and the interesting. Thing is we never forget them and that's why I try to remind adults. It's like we have to be very careful about how we talk to young people not just teachers but parents, mothers and fathers you know because if you tell your child shut up and be quiet, they never talk again. And all of us are running around with those ghosts in our heads. So how how have you guys started to overcome that? Or maybe you still have them goes no. I. I definitely still have them and you know even a second ago when I was like I'm thirty five I still have the most like who've like. Take that off the table I don't want people to know. But as you're asking this question, how do you get over there but I have to be honest I've come a lot further by sharing them by speaking them out loud. You know the three of you in this room Kinda, pull them out of me even if I'm trying to hide them. And I think the more I say them out loud the less power. They have the freer I become from them because I'm able to connect deeply with other people over that shared experience of having doubt. We are the only things that we can't see. We can't see ourselves. Like I can see the greatness in you you but I don't ever see myself unless I'm looking in a mirror and so surrounding yourself with people who can reflect back to you who you can trust to reflect back to you the good and the bad and state the people who can stay around to work through the bad parts with you. I think as Kristen mentioned earlier for me, it's not only having the people around me that are GonNa be like Oh you're doing good. You're amazing. It'd be like Naga girl that was shady like you were wrong for that and I think that. When you have those people around you're able to kind of work through things but it all starts with like you being honest and telling your truth you have always always encourage us to like just say our truth and that is the opposite thing that we're taught. We're taught. Keep to yourself don't be vulnerable. you don't share don't say it out loud but the the reverse is true. You hold all that stuff in as we've talked about, you practice the negative narrative that negative loop that's in your head I'm not good enough because there are no other ways to break that cycle in a vulnerability is the key to our success while I was gonna say self reflection is something that also helps me to overcome doubt when you just take the time to sit with your life in it's trajectory. When I think back over my life and I realized that you know from day one, I should have been counted out because I was the product of a single parent household. My father went to prison when I was young, my mom did what she had to do to make ends meet the mere fact that I overcame that in itself is powerful and then you just keep thinking about everything over life and how much you've done or accomplished or struggled through, and that just gives the power to to Kinda. Get Get out of my own head realize. You. Deserve. Everything. That is come your way. We'll share with folks the the story if you feel comfortable about the time that you pulled me aside, this is recently in the last couple of years. Could you were GONNA? Tell me something right and I was like, oh my goodness it's GonNa quit 'cause while you all are thinking that you're going to be fired I'm thinking Oh these these kids are gonNA quit they're going to need to make more money. I thought every conversation was Oh my God now I got figure out somebody else I'd trust enough to be in my life. So the reverse is often But China when you talking about giving your truth narrative, it was I laugh at. because. China was like, Ma'am I need to have a conversation with you. This is really serious and I was like Oh my Lord. What what is this child because China also doesn't talk much right she does not like to share correct and she is working on that ball ability piece but China is the last one to speak at a meeting. She likes to give her thoughts on the side told them over to write them down to think through. So, you have to really work to figure out what China's thinking. So when China wanted to talk to elaborate on the story while I was at the White, house well, pretty much all my life I. Never really shared that my father was in prison and he spent a good chunk of my childhood in prison He didn't get out and tell us about ninth or tenth grade and he went in when I was three years old. So I had never shared that with anyone because. I was just always ashamed the best story. So Post White House s Mrs Obama Donna tell you in the event anything comes out of it in the event anything happens I. Want you to know this part about my story and I just told her I was like you know I'm a father was locked up while I was in what I was a kid and she's like Oh, you had told me. Is that really all you had tell me and for me I was just like, yeah I wasn't expecting that reaction like that's heavy. Doesn't he never shared it and at that moment she encouraged me to always share my story because you never know what young person can relate to that. You never know what that can do for somebody who might have been in the same situation and making see themselves in you now and they know that something's achievable. But in you, you saw that story as a weakness absolutely you and this is why I say it. So important put our truth on the table because number one you care that around like burden. You know if you when you think you have to hide something about yourself I always say you never bring your real true free self to anything right because you were always wearing the somebody's GonNa find me out right and there's so much in our lives. Grown up as women of color because there is an ideal way to have lived life there is there is an ideal pathway out there. That's why people follow rich people why people follow wealth and Whiteness and privilege because those are the messages that we've been taught. That's the American dream. That's what that's the right answer when the truth is that nobody does it that one way but putting that truth out there it's like what I said to China was like girl. Power. That explains so much about you and explains so much about your resilience and your toughness. It tells me about what makes you hesitant? What makes you scared that made you special. That made you different that make you unique because despite not having that relationship with your father you grew up with a mother that you know saw you through. Who instilled in you the ability to get this far you know i. mean the fact that you rose this far with all that worked against. You makes you even bigger winner. And now your life was tougher and you we're still sitting here in the same room together. Nine that's awesome. Then isn't that Guy Right. You guys are. Now as I've said to you, you are now the mentors while you were still being mentored by me and you will until the day I die. So what would you say to young people that you know were you ten.
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"Let's talk about that. That self doubt that am I good enough syndrome that runs through all of our heads because there are a lot of young people listening and they would assume that you're Michelle, Obama or somebody who's worked for her then you must have this innate confidence that you must not have ever doubted yourself because how could you take on these big roles lot. A lot of young girls are listening and thinking you all have something or see something that they don't in themselves when the truth is, we all experience that doubt. I think you know in so many ways even as I sit here and I hear you say that I'm like, yeah. That's how I feel every day still right and I'll be thirty five in two weeks. But we talk about the fact that a lot of men don't think that at all. Here, at home, a lot of men just go yeah. Of course of course I'll take the job. Of course they picked me out for me. Everything I did everything everything I continue to do. It's like you can't get that like high school I grew up in Orange County Mike Freshman. Year my counselor was like you're an international baccalaureate each week could handle this. It was this constant reminder of you're not good enough and I'll be honest once I started working with the Obamas it was just Kinda like how did she get that? Who is this young girl? I was too young to have the resume that allowed me the opportunity to do something like this. It was just like why her and then you felt. It you felt it like an MDC like the whole titles thing I didn't have a college degree like under getting a degree while I was here, but DC is one of those cities where it was like. So where'd you go to school? Who Do you work for and I started being products like college dropout but I'm like you don't know what I'd do and you don't know who I sit at the table with I've found comfort in knowing that like Kristen, China. Everyone around us was young and we were all kind of struggling and like the three of us As they both have mentioned, we were away from our parents. So we came our own little family like when we thought we were going to get fired. I'd be like Chris I wouldn't text each other. You. Know every minute you're about to be had no, let me just make clear at no point. Did any of you ever have a conversation that lead you to believe? No. Day. I. Could tell you how many times we text each other will we're in the same room to? Do, did I did I say that wrong? Should I like not come in the room right? I'm like just the craziest things that we put in our heads, but it's like. It's all well it. It's little things along the way the baggage that we carry that when we get to this opportunity were just like we shouldn't be here we messed up we don't we're gonNA Minnesota China you a minute over there talking about baggage. The baggage. Along the way I was just thinking in. The first time I was told I wasn't good enough. I was in the first grade and there was a gifted program at my elementary school and my mom went to my teacher was like I want her tested for gifted.
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"We are raised to especially in black families as everybody. Here's black. To, take the safe route, go college, get your education, get your degree, get a job with good benefits. But what was it in you guys? Do you think that led you to get off those traditional paths and make a decision to do something a little more risky? What gave you the courage? I think I've always had that in me in some way. I was always fine kind of closing my eyes and jumping in the deepen was never like asked thoughtful or meditative as maybe it should have been I think even if we just look at like the past ten to eleven years, I know that we've talked a lot about failure and so I think. Even though I've had the bravery in me. I think being more more comfortable with the idea of failure and being less terrified of that concept that that has helped. Me Be a little more mindful in my risk taking more present in my risk-taking. I think that's helped me be like more successful in my risk-taking too. Well I. Know I talk a lot about. Not Being. Afraid to fail, and that's one of the things when I talked to young people because that is the thing we sort of breed into kids. It's like you know you gotta get straight as you. There's a certain way to do everything analog parents tried to shield their kids from failure because as a parent, you don't want to see your kids go through that kind of pain but failure is something that you do kind of have to get adjusted to because it's a natural part of life. You don't do anything successful without a little stumble along way in. So many people are trying to avoid the stumble at all ever that they never take the chance and then. They miss out on some really interesting opportunities. We've had conversations about this isolated world that we all live in. We think that we have to go through everything independently and I think for me especially within the last five to ten years everything that I do even if it's a risk I, know that I have a tribe in the community behind me right. So it's like even if I fail there is somebody in my in my like communal orbit that will be like you and I do think that like watching you with your friend the way you guys communicate the way you guys link up like I often tell people when I'm with my friends outside of the White House. World. And they're talking about their twenties. When they were all clubs and like having a ball. We were at Camp David and I'm sitting around the dinner table with you and your friends talking about childbirth in college tuition, and all of these things checking my phone like somebody text me. You know after eight years of that. Was You know I do think that I came into my thirties with a lot of wisdom. With a lot. More insight than I think I would have had on who I want to be in the world in how I want to show up, and even though I'm still practicing that and they're still failures along the way I do feel very supported by you your friends, the family that we've all created with each other out here because I don't know there's something about the way I grew up in La or my school where I just mistakes like gave me anxiety I even remember like probably the first six months at the White House now, to be fair, I was like twenty four didn't talk to you. was offered a job at the white. House I was cocktail waitressing in La. So obviously, my answer to the question was, yes I will take a job in the White House and. I walked in and they offered me the job to be your assistant and I was like, have you guys asked her because she? Never, like yes, we've astor do you WANNA think about it I was like, does it come with any more money like one hundred dollars and I remember Mel was like we can maybe work something out I was like all take it but I remember like coming into your family to me you were this woman who was on TV right? So I wasn't on the campaign didn't have these connection points with you and I was twenty four point. Twenty. Five running your life. Yeah and you definitely walked around the house the entire time with that. Look on your face like I'm going to be fired at any moment terror and my husband used to say when every see Kristen he's like, what are you doing her? She looks terrified. She looks terrified I'm worried. The whole time you were in your head I was. So in my head Guardian like January head there was a lot in my head. Working at out all, it was all of your. Poker. Face. You.
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"Tie Everybody I. AM Michelle. Obama. And this is the Michelle Obama podcast. On this episode we are revisiting the mentor relationship but this time we're looking at it from the other side. On a recent episode I spoke with my Dear Friend and mentor Valerie Jarrett about how the best mentorship experiences grow and evolve over time and in this episode I WanNa talk with some people who have been important in my life. So, I WANNA welcome three very special young women, China and Kristen, and you name to our podcast today. These three all started out working with me in various capacities in the White House. And they've all stayed in my life for years. Each of them has grown and matured and. ME At every turn. while. I've known them since they were babies today I, count them as true friends and I know that I've learned as much or more from them as they have for me. So, in this episode I just wanted to talk about her relationships and also what's been going on in the world and what it's like to be black women in this moment in history. So why don't you all start by introducing yourselves? I'm Kristin Jones and I think I might you back in like two thousand nine when I was an intern in the first white? House class which was pretty cool and then I came back and Started as your research associate in the East Wing, and then spent like seven and a half years like as your assistant and kind of do a lot of everything. Hey so I'm trying to Clinton originally from Miami Florida always gotTa Rip Floor Way. I was actually an intern in the White House during fall two, thousand, ten and from there I went on to do something called at the. Following my internship and then I got a call from the first lady's Office to become her body person or trip director in Twenty fifteen. And I've been with her ever since My name is John Damn to I'm your hair stylist I got into the Obama world's in two thousand and nine. But yeah, I've been a part of your life ever since started off with your daughters primarily in your mom and then kind of made my way up the ranks and and and I'm now with you but you're not just with me when you're. Not doing my hair, you're also a little baby baller yourself. I am also have the lawn that I opened in two, thousand seventeen and in two thousand Nineteen I launched my business coaching program for hairstylist. So when I'm not with you, I'm always finding something else to do always always and you were how old when you came onto ninety one I had just turned twenty one I think a few months prior. and I was scared I didn't WanNA come at first. Yeah. Won't you talk a little bit about that? So when I got opportunity to move to DC to work with you all. My Child of Immigrants My dad was not having it. He was like, Oh, you're going to drop out of college will you can't brush over that? You are the Child of Immigrants Yes 'cause that that says a lot right there. So I'm first generation. Ethiopian. American and. My parents came to this country obviously to provide a better life for us and so traditionally when they when anyone thinks of success and when they measure success to be, it's like you're going to be a doctor, a lawyer, an engineer me saying that I wanted to drop out of college to do hair. It just wasn't accepted. It was just like you're going to do what? No know. That's just that's not accepted an even once I relocated and I took the position and I moved to DC I remember my dad didn't talk to me for three months and it was my mom kind of like smoothing it over to be like look she's taking care of herself financially like she's. Okay. She's fine and there was opportunity to come work for the first family the first black family in the United States. It was like how was I going to turn this down because there was this path that my parents created for me and I and I understood that what they understood to be success was very limited right by American culture by African culture. So for me, it was just of like I'm just going to be good at it and I'm GonNa show you like I could still make something of myself. If I don't go work in an office you know each of you you know pretty much all of your roles are the pads you take in or very unconventional. Kristen. You were coming out of college you worked for teach for America, your parents black to So the notion that you were going to intern. In an unpaid internship because let's just. Clear. Starting out in the White House is for free. So what did it take to convince your family's or what was it in you that made you decide to take this leap my mom actually was the one who pressured me into applying for the internship. She was really relentless about it. I mean. She just got you guys know those emails that around to like black people where there's like literally like fifty thousand emails on it and it was like for scholarships and. That's how we found out about the White House internship and so I applied. In came and my parents were pretty supportive. And I think the biggest stretch for them has really been post White House. So in many ways, your mom was thinking, okay. You know might baby girl is going to be working with the President President Obama First Lady She's GonNa be. Judge. Breyer, this is going to be an, Oh, you took a turn right and I'm like I want to try to build something all the way from the ground up she's like. That's Leave. The White House and you get a huge salary and you stay beer but I have to say like it was my time at the White House my time with you are time travelling the world really made me want to build something of my own in China. What about you? You don't come from wealth and privilege. Yeah Yeah. So we I applied to the White House internship get accepted. Did advance for a few years and at that point of Disney mushroom left right because sars-like side left doing advance in twenty thirteen and began working at Disney for about two years and then this you know once in a lifetime opportunity came about to be Mrs Obama's body. person. I was hesitant because I'm someone who really believes instability. So in my mind I'm like, why would I take that leap and potentially be out of a job in the next two years versus thing at Disney and climbing the corporate ladder? So. My mom explained that you know this is the opportunity of a lifetime and she was right. For Mom I know I, always think her. Three.
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"Episode of the Michelle Obama Podcast is brought to you by tide when we don't know what the future holds simple things like access to laundry can be a huge comfort in with the tide. Loads of hope program you can help provide clean close to those in need by simply scaling. Your receipts for tied and other P. and G. purchases. You'll help supply detergent to communities affected by natural disasters and other crises to learn. More about how you can help had to PG good everyday dot com slash tied there's PG DOT com slash time. Hi I'm Michelle Obama and this is the Michelle Obama podcast and in this episode. We're going to be talking about friendship will. Hey y'all hey girl. Hey for this conversation. I thought it might make sense to bring in some of my closest girlfriends off Ms. Turn my phone over there. Try making grazing. You'll probably recognize one of them and that's Sharon Malone who? I'm so glad to have back on the PODCAST. We are also joined by our good friends. Danielle Pemberton heard and Kelly Dibble. Hi I'm Danielle Haim Kelly. Hello this is Sharon now. These three have all got great careers in medicine business and public affairs and I met each of them at various points of my life. We got into all that during the episode so I won't spoil it here as it always does when we're together. The conversation ends up in a number of different places. It's a pretty good window into what I love about. My girlfriend's we can reminisce. We can talk and laugh with each other at each other stories but most of all we can talk about the important stuff. What's going on in the world in our families? Whatever we're thinking about really we're just there for each other when it counts for laugh for a hug for whatever we need now. The four of US recorded this conversation. Not long after the police killing of George Floyd and so all those feelings grief anger outrage. Were top of mind. We're in the midst of not only a pandemic but you know we have just We just witnessed a murder of black man in public and I know that we talk about race is a group of friends all the time. There's a level pain and frustration. You know just fatigue with being black in America. How are you all thinking about these things? We were sure. And now we're talking about this on the way over about we just which is a murder by suffocation and black people you okay. I am doing what you're doing. Great and Oh by the way continue working and Y- can you now drop of diversity inclusion and it's just real you kind of get tired of being the fixer? You know everyone looks to you. I mean you can relate to that. Everyone looks to you in the Party to fix it. What what is Michelle doing? What is she saying? What is she going to do? Can she fix it and bring people together and people are looking to us in our respective roles? Do the same thing and you're just tired. You trying to you know maintain your sense of self. You're trying to hold up your family. You've got kids that are frankly traumatized because Ellie said they've watched on live television. Someone suffocates on one with their hand in their pocket looking at a camera and knowing in their heart that nothing's going to happen to them and that's a very scary thing for these kids to process and you're trying to be there for them but also be there for the young people that you work with the people you lead a lot of people look to us has now senior people in our lives. Not just mothers but as mentors and everybody like it feels like everybody lays this at sort of the feet of rector of of black women you know. It's like make us feel better. Help US understand. You know it's almost as if you know these concerns that we have and knowing what goes on in the community with young black men young black women for that matter. We've all known it and you feel it and we process it when we send our children out there in the world but then there's been this people don't you you know they think. Oh you're just being overly sensitive or you know. It's not really like that. That was nervous. And when you say people you mean. White Peop- I do. Her white friends are white wealthy. You know I I do because you don't experience this in their lives and even when you see it there still asterisk while it wasn't really what you saw. Don't believe don't believe your line is you know at. That's kind of the story of black America being gas slits for forever just simply because no no no. That didn't happen that way. He was resisting she was they imperfect and therefore they deserve what happened to them or somehow diminishes the horror of what happened to them. Well and the other thing too. Is this you working in a corporate setting and where everyone's well educated and they think well. This is something that doesn't happen within our purview. I mentioned call that I had last week with my legal group about incident in Central Park. Where a woman who was walking your dog dog was out on a leash. She was a University of Chicago booth graduate. So smart woman felt threatened by a black man. Who said look this the burn a who was a Harvard Grad? And he was a bird winter. So you're you're talking about two people who are both very well educated. This is not an issue around ignorance. Prejudice is just limited to the ignorant. These are too well educated people but her perception of him was a black man who was attacking. Her achy knew that she could call the police knowing that anything can happen afterwards right but she was willing to bring that on because he says something to her about weaponized shows she that she knew that she could do it. And so there's almost we're going back to. I don't know I mean you can look at Mattel knowing that you since you call foul right with a black man introduced the police. Anything can happen even the worse but it was just as dramatic seeing murder but the fact that she knew that she could bring harm to.