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The Circle (ft. Carey O'Donnell & Chris Sapphire)

I'm Obsessed With This

45:18 min | 1 year ago

The Circle (ft. Carey O'Donnell & Chris Sapphire)

"Welcome to I'm obsessed with this. Then epaulets podcast about the shows and films viewers cannot get enough of today. We're going to be talking about the extremely ridiculous. Listen extremely addictive Netflix. Original Competition series this circle and we also chat with one of its stars Chris Sapphire later in the episode. Today I am joined via satellite or whatever the says I never know how to say that I guess everything's via satellite. TV writer including the cartoon network series. Summer Camp Island Island Co host of everyone's favorite vander pumpers slash reality. TV podcasts sexy. Unique podcast Kerry O'Donnell high. I wanted you on the podcast for so long and here you are. I know I'm I'm such a fan of as a as a podcast and a human so I feel very blessed such a such a huge Ditto will. I'm glad you're here. I've known you for a while I was I was thinking came about that. We've been like I feel like we've all been like Internet friends for like five years. It's crazy oh at least at least in how. How did you enjoy the Oscars? I kinda mislead opening of your of your Oscar Banter. Oh yeah a good night. Yeah it was fine because night in Hollywood Hollywood was alive last night. The the roads blocked off. It felt kind of like some kind of corn team is happening I loved it. I thought parasite when was really great and kind of the most. That's exciting thing for me. At least watching I thought Rene speech was hilarious and and she when she mentioned firefighters. I was like in another room and I heard her like I left midway through her speech because it was so long ago like put moisturizer on my face and in the other room. I heard her say something about firefighters and I was like I I gotta get back so I went back and watched finish the tail end of it but that was pretty grit. It was a narrative that it wasn't in any order like you could that that whole speech all all of the sentences could have been jumbled input an different order and it would have had the exact same effect like the first word of her speech could have been firefighters and it would have been an identity speech a sensibly Lincoln. Yeah it was kind of reporters neighbors. The whole speech was like a some kind of epoch almost like home yes. Every speech was like extremely extremely unique. I mean I know that always happens with the actor speeches but like they all felt extremely different. This year chaotic energy. I think I think it's very reflective of the timer. Living in so I was I. It just felt right okay. We are not here to. We are here to talk about the circle. which is a deranged? netflix competition. Job For we get into the ranger net flicks competition show carry. What what have you been watching on your netflix account? That is not the circle. Okay I didn't really make this public but I did watch That show right. After new years. I watched Messiah Ziya with Michelle mcgann. I've sort of been on the fence there. I know it's why it's a wild show. I just you know would like a nears day when you're just like give me anything because they're just so like fragile so I I went with Messiah because I do love a good end the world show. Oh yeah but it was a it was a wild journey for me and I stayed with the the whole thing and I I tried to like. I was very careful about who I told I was watching because it does. It's a very no one was like no one's talking about it and you're almost like afraid to be. I'm watching this. I just love watching Michelle mcgann like one of her eyelids always like flutter and like it's she's very like her chest she does a lot of I acting which I'm I'm into I also watch this show. I serve watching it again because I like watched it sort of not really thinking about it as I was watching it but I returned to the show black summer with Jamie King. I have no idea what the show is. I know I'm I guess I'm going. For all like the gritty apocalyptic shows so. I'm probably boring but black summer. No this is good because as I've never heard of it. It's a gritty Zombie. Who isn't a Jamie King? Jaime King is a Dombi show. I've never heard of this. She anchors the show. She's a center of Stephen. Even King tweeted about it so I got into. You really gave me the range that I was looking for here and I was not expecting it. I know opposite of the circle like the mask the mass entertainment that everyone is watching watching and talking about like literally told me about a show that I've never heard of okay. We're GONNA talk about this article social media. You can be anyone. They've games begin and say anything. Okay okay let me think. Who would you one hundred thousand dollars on the line? Welcome to the circle. Go for a new social experiment. We're players don't meet face to face. The only communicate through this circle circles are called. Take me some profile. Man Says better than Christmas. I'm interested in not just because everyone is watching the circle before we get into the meat and potatoes circle germ. How did you discover the circle? Is this something that was just served to you is did you watch this because of social media pressure did you watch us because you love you like reality. TV shows but reality L. D. competition shows are sort of an entirely different genre. How did you get there? Yeah I saw a lot of gays tweeting about it. I saw someone do sort of like me as one of the characters in the circle like a front facing comedy thing And then my sister was talking about on a lot and she she she loves like the Bachelor and all that so I was hearing her. Oh she was kind of seal the deal for all right so I started watching it and I was immediately disoriented and you know it felt it kind of like Black Mirror and also disoriented of where they actually filmed it which so lots of external things right off. The Bat drew me in my first instinct. When I saw the exterior shots as like they film this like Manchester or something or like deep England and then I confirm that so I was like okay so this is very felt very dystopia being Black Mirror e to me which I was which I love so that kind of kept me going? We've established Yemen. Yup you've you've gotten that I just love how loud out. Everyone was like their volume like when they were just sitting like. I just love the idea of people sitting in their apartments shouting at the wall. You know so that lots lots of that so that was like initially those might. I like. Okay I this is something I can get behind and I thought they were like very just kind of seemed very kind off the bat and like very earnest people even the catfish ones were deceiving. Everyone so we're like my ground floor. That's what hooked me in. Yeah and it's also one of their shows because there are also isolated like you can't really participate in truly nasty devious behavior from you know from your living room couch like you can be deceitful and you can be a little conniving and like you can be a little you can scheme You can't be discussed. You can't be despicable. You can't be for dinner now. Yes I also wanted to know like what the apartments smelled like because I know they definitely have like a cleaning service coming because some of their apartments were like super need and it looked like they just got an a fresh rush vacuum like on the rugs but I just felt like almost like people being like a space station. And you're wondering just that staleness because they they can't. They have their balconies blocked off by that bamboo fence things so they're sealed in there and they can go up on the roof once in a while but I was just wondering just the error in the vibe of those rooms probably is probably pretty gross Pretty Stale yeah felt like call it like a college dorm or something. But you're right like the whole nothing felt disorienting and they and they've said an interview sense like being in there truly was as disorienting as you think it was but even to the viewer. It's like what's going on here. It took me a wild even figure out what when everyone was telling me to watch the circle and they were obsessed with the circle again gay people they were like you got to watch it. Here's what happens and they'd be like well. This happens in this happens. And they talked to the thing and then it makes them then they have to set the profile and they have to decide who's a catfish and then they vote and I was like. I don't know what you're talking about. So there's like an extreme learning curve to the show. No because I've never seen anything like it and you kind of have to have your hand held by that first episode to figure out what in God's name is going on yeah you can't just jump into it you have to. It's like a very important for some rally tells you can just Kinda like do the recaps but you have to really be in that first one to like indoctrinate you in this weird the reality they have you in. I've never seen anything like genuinely so I was. I was actually very impressed by the disorientation. And you you felt super claustrophobic and then you kind of like accepted it. And we're sort of in there with them which I was into yet they were at. They all seemed like I just liked. Just how a happy they seemed about social media. You know Like they were just really like they're really enthusiastic about it and like approaching it in a way that I haven't really had adult. Maybe ever in ten years just this like it was like it almost felt you're watching people who've never been on the Internet before be like yes like we didn't do this. This is so fun I love it. I love interacting and chatting. You know new group message. Yeah new group yes I ll. It's like they went to two thousand four and pulled people in till I now and seeing how they would respond to it. They're like well. You know what I mean. It shows how quickly we adapt to like really ridiculous insane situations and I mean they're countless parallels you can make Tillich anything about contemporary life like how quickly we just sort of like in deal with crazy stuff but when they're thrust into this weird apartment and it's like Oh from now on for x days because it's extremely really unclear how long they've been in that place and they all get used to it so quickly. I mean it's just human nature. We accept our like scenario kind of fast. Because it's we have to like make sense of everything. Yeah however cursed it maybe it was truly curse and they were so into their. I love in the foot when they're they're so into the show like they love their apartment. So yes this is Ed you know what did you think of this of the strategy and Michelle like when you when you finished it you like what did you take from it like. What would your strategy be because as they keep changing stuff up so ultimately? Do you think the way to win was to be yourself because that's sort of what the show tells you like be yourself and then you'll win or do you think there is a way for someone to slide in and be devious person at any given moment like I will continue watching the circle and now I'm just intrigued. Like how will the strategies evolve as it moves forward just like I told what are they even GonNa do in season two. Like it's GonNa be like I can't even. I truly can't even imagine like how you even go about out planning this so I I definitely think it was like improvised based on what was happening and like they probably had like a hundred different scenarios. What would happen and all these people like in the holding? Dan like waiting waiting to come in so like just an feeling it out like that just seems so stressful and like also like nefarious. And but that's just reality. TV But Yeah I think I don't know I think you have to. I think it's a balance you have to be. You have to play the game. I think Chris Played The game pretty well because I think he was deceptively very cunning and he hid behind his leg kind of veneer of You know just hey. I'm just everyone's Fred. He played neutral. Really Hugh is like fun. Gay I was it was like no. You're not you're you're cutting bitch and I love it but like like I love that moment. He was like I'm not here to like when he was kind of like he when they all were speculating. That Miranda went to Joey always because they had some connection. He's like damn. I just WANNA get like a window for my mom in our living room so I was like I was into that but I also I don't know if I could fully commit it to being catfish I think I would like have like a stress seizure from that. I think like that just seems very like weighing on your soul after a while but but I guess if you're in a game like it doesn't like talked it out with your partner and like they were supportive of it. I guess maybe it would be. But I don't think you can be yourself self Kaz. Bill came in and he was like I was. Actually I like bill And he was like trying to be like the fun brother and like they were like no no no no no yeah. He was out pretty fast so he really tried to not play the game and it. It swallowed him whole. Yeah I guess from to take a step back from a broader perspective since if you're a connoisseur of what is arguably the most fascinating reality show on television vanderbilt rules as well as just like drama messy reality. TV In general as has of you're how do you ingest this sort of television like this reality non narrative television and does it differ from the way you watch a messiah or any other serious serious drama or a Sitcom like. Do you give your full attention to these shows. You'd like half attention to these shows like. How long did it take you to watch circle? And do you approach these types of competition petition just differently than you approach other stuff. Yeah I think I feel way more fish out of water when I watch a competition. Show then I do with like housewives or vendor because that's like I mean there's like there's plots and like narrow there's like a driving. Some housewife seasons are like inventor. PUMPER less Active than others but it's fairly stagnant and you can kind of just like maneuver around in the see. How like you know? They're quiet. Interactions are loud and like you know what they mean. So I'm I'm that is easy easier for me to get into because I can put myself in their shoes but competition stuff. I'm like because so many people are so into the bachelor which I've I've dipped my tone about-turn paradise for like one or two seasons and like watch one season of the bachelor but I'm not like I'm not really a competition. Shut like reality. The person I feel him as naive watching these shows so I felt very naive watching the circle but it sounds like it was still exciting typically. Watch this yeah. It was so exciting because it was so so not kind of my wheelhouse and like I had it was like me leaving my comfort zone with son sad but it's true and I was intrigued by that and it was kind of fun to like. Do something different than just. Watch like Sheena Marina del Rey so it was like even watch going back to America's America's next top model like that stuff was I get more stressed when there's a competition so I'm I'm already uncomfortable because of that and I get stressed watching people play each other and like throw each other away and stuff like just it stresses me out and like a human level but I love it That may like I love being like I love it so you will be watching season two. Yes of course I love being afraid you know I love being like what's GonNa Happen to Karen you know And with housewives. You don't have what's GonNa Happen to Alana. Oh my God Alana when they do the slow mo walks of them walking down the hallway and it looks like they're in like a Marriott or something and they're just just like walking and and then Alana just comes barreling in and she's like I've got a bone to pick with you and then Sammy's it's like you know because she thought she was like a man like it was that was stressful when Alana came in because I thought they were going to have a full fight and they're expecting that and they actually have like a calm rational conversation everyone on this show x much more maturity than they had any right to. You know like they're all taking this way much better than they shut he. That was also something I notice has to like even Miranda who I was like. Oh my God. She's going to go like you're thinking she's going to because she was so bombed like she was so upset and she was like really good about out and like even Alana like they were all very like to be the first one to go on a reality show. You know I think most times like Oh fuck Lakewood. What's happen but she took it in such good stride? It's almost like a sensory deprivation. Tankers thing like I'm sure that these people because they're isolated for as long as they are even if in the grand scheme of things things it's not like they're like prisoners of war and they're like stuck in this a cell for you know amount but it's long enough to feel very weird especially given how intricate intricate like the the show sort of does have something to say air quotes but it's probably just enough to make you sort of examine the way you use social media and just the way that you live your life and so these people were probably when the cameras weren't like when we didn't see this footage because the cameras are on them all the time in those boring moments they were probably really stuck in like deep deep introspection and like you know knee deep existential crises. Oh throughout this show I would have been like. What am I doing in this room talking to a television vision but imagine not having any TV any phone access and just thinking about social media for all hours of the day and all like I would be not sleeping? I would be so worried that I was going to get you know what I mean like. It's because I'm already so stressed by instagram twitter. And it's a hell scape and to have it. Just be your sole focus every day and you're constantly questioning whether or not Alana is real I would. I would really lose it. I would lose. I mean there was like very quietly deep. I think very quietly deep. Were you happy with the winner. Were you happy the joey one I mean he was he was sweet. I I was surprised. At how much white Tim. Yeah I was waiting for Sammy you want. Yeah I think Sammy Sammy Shibam. I would've been happy with. I forgot to mention that. I'm obsessed with the show instant hotel net flicks. Alex that is like my two and that is a reality. That's also competition show. I can get fully behind that I wanNA whole spinoff. Show his babe and Bond Bayden Bond I. Oh my God I follow on Instagram and my boyfriend bought her her sexy food book. The one with all the hawks like holding cupcakes and stuff. Yeah Sir Lime. Green Syrupy Margaritas aren't Margaritas. When they look like a chemical reaction from wasn't one of the slots I feel like I watched insane hotel eight years ago even though it was definitely like last spring but wasn't there a subplot in not where she got mad at someone for not accepting whenever Margaritas? She took points off everyone because no one wanted to drinker Margaritas. She took like two points off. Because she's like when you. Hey you have to have the Margarita experience and the gay couple. Sorry this is like this is a horrendous gay. Couple the Fussy couples fussy couple and he would and and Lee road. Always go with the devil's on the details. The Devil's in the details would always say that. And you got his place that it was our I feel like it was like the senior science and lambs where you think that the FBI FBI is at Buffalo Bills House but really. It's jodie foster as at Buffalo Bill House when he opens the door and it's her the most shocked I've ever been a piece of media is like that and then then when they go to the fuzzy couple's house and you see the interior. I was like this. Is Their House. that's exactly the reaction. I had when Juliet walks in and she goes. Oh no she doesn't she's even. She didn't like the foyer like she just no. No she's like. I'm very disappointed. The first thing she says Oh my God it was so bad. Oh God I feel like we've really just like phone fall off. A cliff is the lorries. No it's my fault. What would you say if anything we can close by asking? This and I found myself wondering this a lot by the league in the final episodes of the show. Because as I was like I like this. I'm watching this. I'm completely fascinated by this but I'm sort of like. Why does this exist? What is show trying to teach me? What do you think if if there is is one what is the lesson the circle has for its audience? Or what is the lesson. It's trying to give its audience if any like. What can we learn from this show? I think I think there's two lessons I think there's like a warning maybe or like it's it's sort of I I don't think there were like I guess I'm just taking it this way but it almost felt like this is. Netflix was sort of teach. Mike Not Punishment but almost like a like this is is what we've become in a way like we're in this. We're all like it was a total metaphor for like we are just confined in these rooms and like looking. You know what I mean and worrying about like Yeah Mine Usha so I think there is that going on but I also all. Yeah but I do think at the end like they actually seemed like attached to each other other. And you do you can form real relationships like on social media which sounds like Corneas Hal. But like I know you guys from it like you know what I mean like you do. Yeah you can actually like make friends and like cut through the bullshit and find like a real connection with someone the Group chats is or you know what I mean or the what they were doing the and they seemed especially the original Kerr they they did seem really attached to each other so I think it was like In in a way I felt like there is some hope for us like that. We can at the end of the day. All we do want is like a real friendship and that was my my lesson but also I think there was a lot of kind of a scary glimpse into what we are like. We're living in that dystopia kind So if the circle surprise me and said like just kidding this is all been scripted. This was a very long episode of Black Mirror. I'd be like Oh damn good one. Yeah Well Carrie thank you so much for talking to me about the circle. Thank you so much for having me. This was a joy everyone can listen to your podcast. Wherever you get podcast sexiness podcast? Now it's time to hear from someone someone who is inside the circle for I don't know how long was inside the circle because he wouldn't tell me so. Let's move over to my interview with Chris Sapphire from the circle. And what better way to start an interview with flattery. You're my number one. I mean I wanted you to win. I'm so sad that you didn't how are you feeling. Oh honey thank you so much. Thank you to you and everybody out there Bowie. I am feeling like I just lost the pageant. It is big I like bell here. We go I got the boot in the uh-huh now I gotta go to Wendy's get an application honey. How how long have you been back? When did win in was filming over in the fall you know not to give away a lot of the TV magic than yes? The filming wrapped up late last year. And then it with our massive biggest secret couldn't tell anybody so you must know that I was bursting. Honey bursting at the seems to lead a world l. but I couldn't and I've I've been home for a good while now. Okay I found it hard to explain what the show is even about to people because it. So it's kind of complicated. And and so since you've been on it and you were an actual contestant top-five how do you explain the show to people who haven't heard of it like. How do you do it quickly in a way that makes sense? Oh honey this is a great question. I call out my fault and I pull up that wikipedia article on the way I said hold on the second and then I read the wake of Israel because it is a little difficult to explain out birth. Now that it's out of the world everybody gets it. They're like everybody wants to be on season a two. They're already asking me way way. Way Damn when you first heard about it and you were cast passed on it was your strategy always to be yourself or was being someone else ever an idea for you. I always tell I I always tell the girls this. I have a really bad memory so acid other how there is no way. I'll rolling when you're all the way from Dallas. It's gotta be some other Queen. I'm going to be me. Asking do amazes ninety three even though I was born in eighty eight Dante. Aw I said I'm going to do me. And I explained to the people why I said you'd know what ever since I was a child. I have always been very very blessed to to have the ability to connect with people and I say that with humility and kindness. It's true since I was in elementary. I remember Dude Real Cochran. Elementary School is surface grade. I want France of the Prom. Strength of the promise is elementary school. Now get this when I got to to middle school things became even weirder. I will never forget one day when I walked my middle school. I was ambushed by a bunch of girls and they wanted to take photos is with me and I said what is going on. After I left Middle School when I went into hiding wall. I remember the very first day these girls were like your. Name's Chris Ryan Right now that it's nice to meet you that I heard of you. I don't know what God is up to up in the Heavens but I'm very appreciative. I just naturally have this love for people to me. I'M GONNA use that gift. God gave me unless see how far I guess and you got close. I think that is sort interesting. Because all of the top four were the people who were themselves and it sort of seems like the winning strategy or at least part of the winning strategy is to be yourself is that is that sort of what you took away from it. I would tell anybody who wants to do season shoes. Like maybe just be yourself already live in a world where everybody's putting on shows raids. Bye Baby give yourself a chance you know. Let the Lord Shine through. Let's see what I can do for you. You know you win so hard to be a catfish happiest because I just can't keep up you see on the show. I had a big old notebook. I saw your notebook. I wanted to ask about that. You were always you. Occasionally other people would be writing a notebooks notebooks. But if you were doing it the most what kinds of notes were you taking throughout the show like what was your strategy when it came to recording things and keeping things straight keeping track everything was taken down details like age where the Whether they like to do you know little tidbits on their on their personalities. Just in case I was GONNA start clocking ricky character. That's an announced to the public. A lot of the other parts of the notebook were survival. The Bible verses and I would spend a lot of time meditating. Meditating and meditating and that's how we keep me keep my spirit grounded eat my spirit. Zen xenon focused because it was very long long hours long days and A lot of personalities you know and so there's cameras on you twenty four seven all all all that kind of leads me to my next question. which is that it seems like it must have been? I read an interview with Joey where he was talking about. How the lights were bright? And that's why he wore sunglasses so often indoors and it was kind of hard to keep track of what what time it was and what day it was but you never seem to show that sort of stress. Do you think it was that that meditating and your your your relationship ship God that helped you stay focused and stay so seemingly clear throughout the whole thing. I absolutely absolutely league. I'll a hundred percent and you know a lot of people a lot of people Get stressed under pressure or they feel that it is Dan Damn that has to do everything in the world and with my spiritual practices I've learned and I'm learning to release the eye to release the me. F Ed to focus more on on he you when you read the Bible when you really start to digested. It's really telling you it's not what Chris is GonNa do. It's what God is GonNa do blue. You realize that we're just a bunch of people being used by God if you let them. That's what they say. Surrender your life to God. So that's how I remained calm because ours. You know in that zone. It's not me. It's God indisputable Bible Worth says. The battle is not yours but it's the more and so it really helps to take the pressure off yourself and look. The Lord kept me calm collected. Gather in it. I mean it's a true testament to the power or how good God is and it could just let you focus on playing the game and having fun in that house. Yeah Okay the office fun fact grow was there. If I've got the dyson fans it everybody wrong. It will do. They have air conditioning. Or was it just fans chance because it every once in a while you could see leaves were blowing and hair was blowing and it looked like fans were on all the time it was blowing it it was it was a little warm. You know. There's a lot of lights in in so that can get a little warm but be the girl that I am I am. I think you know what I ain't complaining. I'm just going to keep it moving so I am a little man with me. What if you had to if you could do the game all over again and same cast? Would you do anything differently or would you have done everything the same I think I probably would have. I would just be me. You might think strategy but I would speak a little bit faster and I noticed in the game when I'm watching it over. I'm like circle. Can you please in. It's like Chris if you don't stop Baptist start talking now. What I didn't know how to play? That's another thing I wanted to tell the honest way. I wanted to the circle completely blind when I arrive and even know how to turn the TV on. I don't know if it was such or you got a poke it somewhere so I know how to do any of this. Did they sort of do that to everyone. Everyone everyone just was sent in there without really any you learn as you go sent him with no rules. Learn as you go just see what happens. I don't know I I don't know about that because some of the other players. I'm not sure if they had tuned in to watch the UK version or Nile. I'm back kind of I'm back. Honda Queen I WANNA just go in there and let the Lord blow Through and let's have fun in. Let's keep it real you know if I would have watched the UK version. I probably would have already been. I know what's coming up. I kind of enjoy not knowing because because everything's more it seems a little more fun to go in there and have it all be surprising. Yeah I mean you know you don't want to know what's going on in Willy Wonka land. Yeah exactly what is your favorite memory from from the whole circle experience. ooh My favorite memory I would have to say is when I first got to meet some of the players face to face at the dinner all honey. I was so excited to meet them. You know we had been in our apartments they were reclaim the game. You're playing the game and alert on say you get to meet the players face to face asset all mocked. God means just so so real. You Know Me Opera Dallas than we do things real big. I've been hearing me less than now purple glittering blazer any. I'm GONNA pull Alyssa Edwards makeup on sossio Beverly Hills and I'm going to beat this space to for all capacity what they call me. Your Dallas bid you are casket asking. How long was the dinner because on the show? It's it's you can't get a sense of how long you actually in there. But how long was that experience with them. It was a it was a nice good. I would say we're in there for maybe a good hour. Wow it it felt like a good hour and a Oh my goodness. The conversation station was so good. I wish they could have kept it all in there. A We talked about everything we talked about life in in in our experience in the game. I mean when I walked in I remember I saw standings shoe bomb and all the all the redial was just so happy that these house were real. You'll see that clip. I turn over and throw my hands up and I'm looking at seabird. I'm like who's this on the on the owls Rebecca producer or somebody are the production there just Kiki with the girl and then there's a win. It's revealed its Rebecca beccause like. Is there anyone you thought was a catfish. You wasn't is there eighty-one thought with a catfish. Who was not? Yeah I think in the the beginning As the game starts I was more in the in the head space of like they all could be catfish is don't trust anybody or or if they're real just have fun with it. That's why when I met Mercedes I went with the energy with that was more like I don't care if she's real or not I in love with whoever I was speaking to and so I was in that space like A. They could all be campus rail. You know whatever it is okay. Keep going Chris doing it. And so when Mercedes Watson Oh my gosh honey the crack up all time. Everybody's face just got cracks honey. I think that's my favorite part of the whole of the whole season when Karen with her real name is Karen Right. That was her name. Karen shows back. Yeah when Karen shows up. I think that was my favorite moment. Can you talk more about what happened. Then and what you were feeling okay. So when when someone gets living on the circle they could go to anybody's apartment though we're all waiting there with anticipation is going to be. I don't know honey the door not girl. I've got so big. I said out or telling me Chris get the hell out of here. It's so She walks in and I was just. I was so Assad I was so shocked because I thought it was going to be more sadie out like who is this lady in. I raced her. Because says that's GonNa be okay you were catfish mislaying you were just tap is booth. It gave her the biggest hod. I was so happy we went and sat on that couch. I swear out ahead of big ASS bottle Busted that outfit sat there on iphone are at all the way back. Have you stayed in touch with her. Oh Yes we talk. Every day that queen she wants to come down to Dallas to kick in hang out I data lot of a lot of her fans will be here when a meet her and so God willing. She'll come down and we'll just have a good old catch up good. Oh southern cats a bit. We talked so many things we actually bonded over a really famous Internet personality needs. He has Madison. I don't know who. TSA says she's huge on the Internet and I said I cannot believe you know Madison as I said that is a homegirl. Minor this world and so I said look how small the world is your eye with Al.. We know somebody a mutual person. I thought man look at God. That's great where does she live. Now I believe she lives in New York Org. Okay Oh yeah that's right. She's yes right. That's that's that's what her intro was about. Is there anyone else is she. The person you've remained closest with since the show. Oh I talked to everybody. That's great yes. We have a private group chat on instagram. And we chat every day. Joey called me the other day. I keep in touch a lot with Sammy girls airbag. That's good to know it's like I think shows are more. I think reality shows like this competition shows are are like this or more or fun to watch when people aren't being mean all the time when you know that everyone is truly friends at the end of it because we all like when people fight like we like watching fights on television vision but I think at the end of the day. It's a little more satisfying when people our friends at the end. Almost definitely and I think that's a really drawing people to the circle right now. Is that a- In these times we're living in. There's just so much injustice in evil running rampant everywhere. People need a little dose of kindness and so when I went into the circle. I didn't know that that's how this was going to play out. I was ready for anything. I was ready for a bottle to be thrown at my head. You know when it came down to this now we we see the radiated so much love and using love. I can't help but just thank God that me putting my foot in the door with the circle like this it. It was a door full of love and I was like this is so amazing. I'm glad that the world is loving that love because we need some of that right now. We need a lot of that right now that the show is very popular and everyone who watches knows who you are. How has your life changed since you've been a figure that people are obsessed with now people? Oh Love Chris. People love everyone on the circle. But how has your life changed from people being obsessed with you. Well I I would say to all the listeners. Thank you so much. Thank the offer believing in me or were supporting my journey. I read all your messages. I try to get back to as much as many of you as I can't It has has been very while very surreal. And I don't think anybody can prepare you for something like this. You know when I when I got home from the circle only had like or thousand maybe six hundred followers four thousand seven hundred and right now I look at my phone in whereabouts. Hit seventy thousand from all parts of the world is just absolutely insanity. I I'd never knew what this felt like. I never knew what posting a photo and then and you see thirty thousand twenty thousand likes six hundred comments whatever bill. It's insane insane. What do you want to do with your newfound instagram fame? Oh my God I always think everything's about you know the Kingdom of God on Earth so I definitely want to start my own brand of hot sauce. Aw Baby I'm going to conquer the world you know I might alternate dream in life is to be able to provide for my family to you. Make sure that they have everything they need including hell bit. A huge dream is to have my own hot sauce brand my own makeup line because I started as a makeup order. And you were talking about your parents. It seemed like I noticed that you had a a photo of your parents on your dresser during the show and it was so nice when you got to talk to your mom at the end when she sent that message. What did your parents think of the of the show were they? Did they like it. Okay stopping my mom. My mom offer is just on cloud nine. She watched the circle over and over and over every day. She loves watching the interview. Par djilas watching Toxins she starts crying and crying on the cast every. Hi It's because she knows she knows why Over there I was over. There really hoping to win really hoping comeback because with a hundred thousand. I know that's not a lot of money in today's world but it for us people who live live your life. Yeah Yeah we change our lives you know. I was really hoping to win but I didn't so now just you know living on a prayer. Ah Well it's good to know that your parents seem so supportive of you and your time on the show. I think that that's a really nice thing to see on a on a show like this other very very supportive of my dad. My Dad's very old school. He's from a SAMBA. Medical Gonzaga Mitzi mango. And he's also he because from a little town. Population may thousand people with donkeys pigs chickens. Adobe houses straight up Mexico Mexican people out there Yano went outside of so. My Dad watches the show at. He's just like see me whole philanthropy and all that it so but he doesn't really understand understand the enormity of or or what is. He's just happy that are on there but it's funny. It's funny watching him. Watch it because he's just like nodding his head like this crazy ass kid 'cause all my life I've always told him of the things I wanted to do. And and what I've done and now he sees a Netflix. This crazy ass kid up on this. TV with all that makeup while he loves it. He thinks it's so funny. That's great talking to the TV. How long long did it take to get used to speaking your message out loud girl? I can talk to myself now as I sit in front of a mirror do monologues and all kinds of weird the crap. Do you still find yourself speaking out. Whenever you want to send a text back to normality? I guess I we can move on to the other things so what. This is a Netflix. PODCAST gotTA talk about Netflix. What else have you been watching that? You've been obsessed with lately. Oh I watched the two popes the other day you know me as it was such a great movie you know we we. We have to know that people evolve things are changing the The Times change. And it's introducing God to this new time ran and God will fit in every time period but you know it's about introducing introducing a in a way in. Has that that magic. He has that ability to speak about God to the twenty first century. And I love this new in the two. Popes it's good. It's good also having recommended dancing queen for All the audience out there dancing queen. It's never is original starring the iconic be one and only she is world based Michael Jewelry from another booty. Miss a list Edwards have not lied. Dancing Queen leave. Go in especially if you're a massive fan of the drag race elicit Elizabeth Edwards is my neighbor. We've been friends for more than ten years. She is the GRONDAHL diva of Dallas. The head of the House of Edwards it might vary drag mother. The I've never done drag people right now. What are they gonNA drag weight on my head? You can call me dragway a woman a man you can call call. And it follows Eliza Edwards awards is life as a dance school teacher. A mentor in a world A If you love all that you're in for the riot of your life. She is hilarious. I thank thank you know on the eighth day. The Lord made Eliza Edward Great Up. It feels like a sappy way to end our conversation but I mean at what will you take from your time in the circle. Now that people all over the world are obsessed with you like on a personal level. Do you think it's changed your life in any way or you the same Chrissy. I see where when you walked in. I think what my time on the circle has done for me. It has affirmed that I am on the right track. I WanNa tell the the listeners that in my journey through life there was a time where I was bullied really horribly nice school grown adults in people. They didn't understand me on the world. They would say really mean things about me on my back that I'll fake it in just horrible things about me and I think me being me on the show as really affirm to me that God truly working through me really threw me around me at his present present in a time of need. I don't want to get emotional but it feels really really good that the people around the world see me for me see. See the real me the me that I've always been ever since I bow God when I was fourteen. I've been walking him in. I've learned not to take those mean comments personally because in the Bible says it's not that they don't like they don't like me and I might amen to that God is so good. I'm so thankful for everything he's doing for me. I pray that I'm GONNA be able to help my family and I wanNA say thank you to all the beautiful fans out there who support the circle support all cast in supporting majority. And I'm very the very thankful to you. All thank you to you and you know what we're on the subject of Netflix. I just WANNA say quick. Shot out in a big. Thank you to Jonathan up in band. NAST from Queer Eye I just WanNa say thank you for being so fearless or being so you it gives people like me strengh link to continue on in a world like this show is going to give other people strength to do but thank you so much for talking to me. I'll thank you so much for having me. I remember everybody has tax. Spread love like butter by by uh-huh.

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SPI 411: 5 Market Must-Haves when Building a Business that will Succeed, with Ryan Levesque

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SPI 411: 5 Market Must-Haves when Building a Business that will Succeed, with Ryan Levesque

"Whether you have a business already or you're about to start when it's really important that you understand is the market that you are serving viable for a long term business model. Is it actually possible for you to succeed and make money in that space? Well that's what we're going to talk about today with Special Guest Ryan Leveque. You might know him as the author of Ask in previous guests in episode one hundred and seventy eight here on the ESPN podcast. But today we're talking about market viability. These five special qualities or characteristics of markets and different tools that you can use to understand whether or not it's viable and secondly we're going to have you understand actually play a little game with us to know what type of entrepreneur you are and every type has its own dark side and it's important to know that so that you know what to look out for and what might be your weakness and had a break out of that this and more in today's episode stick around welcome to the smart passive income. Podcast where it's all about working hard now so you can sit back and read the benefits later and now your host. Thanks poop. Jokes aren't the best. But there is solid number two pad Flynn so i WanNa talk to you about the future. Not just because obviously I'm a huge back to the future fan but because in the future I think a lot of things are going to be about the soft skills that you have right. I'm trying to teach my kids this. It's not just about the knowledge that you have in your head or the skills that you have and typing away on the keyboard. It's the soft skills like collaboration adaptability. Creativity I say collaboration. That's okay. It's that important. I have to say twice but when it comes to your business You know hiring the right people is one of the best ways to grow and when it comes to hiring people a lot of people assume we'll have to find the people with the right skills and that's kind of important but I also feel like more important are those soft skills and what's really cool is linked in jobs screens candidates for both hard and soft skills to help you grow your business and hire the right person fast and like. I said things like creativity adaptability collaboration they screen for that stuff and allows you to find the qualified candidates. You need who match your business requirements perfectly? And that's how Lincoln make sure your job post when you need. A person is seen by everybody that that would be perfect for you skills qualifications but also those soft skills. It's no wonder a person's hired every eight seconds on linked in which is insane so find the right person for your business today with linked in jobs. You can pay what you want and get the first fifty dollars off to visit linked in dot com slash S. I again that's linked in dot com slash. Sti To get fifty dollars off your first job. Post terms and conditions apply. What's up everybody pamphlet here and welcome to choose session. Four hundred and eleven of smart passive income podcast. My Name is Pat. Flynn here to help you. Make more money saved more time and help more people to and today. We're talking with our Special Guest Ryan. Leveque who I mean. This is a golden commerce. This is going to be one of those episodes that I know I'm going to say hey if you're in business and you haven't listened to this like this is mandatory listening for you so you're in the right spot. Put that phone away. Listen this is going to be a great one. Let's do it here. We Go Ryan. Welcome back to the smart passive income podcast. Thanks for being here in hats often be here super pumped beach with you again man. The last time you were on was over two hundred episodes ago. One seventy eight. It was one of our most popular episodes because he talked about the ask formula for people who maybe didn't listen to that exactly. What is the ASS formula? Why is it so important and I'll talk about how it's affected me in my business after that. Yeah for sure so the ask. Method is a methodology to understand your market at a deep emotional level. You can ultimately better serve that market and then also better sell to that market and the idea behind it is if you understand your market better than they even understand themselves then you can deliver solutions to what it is that they need and sell to them in a way where you're marketing your messaging resonates with them at a deep level. So ask is all about that. And it's all about also identifying the different buckets that exist in your market so in every single market doesn't matter what market you're in there are different groups of people that have slightly different needs wants desires and the challenge when you sell online. Is that when you try to be all things to all people you end up being nothing to nobody and by identifying the different buckets that exist in your market you can segment people and then serve them the best message and the best product. That's a right fit for them. And so I ask is really just a framework to implement that process in your business online right and it's about asking the right questions which you set up really nicely in the book and I took that and I implemented it and right away started the immediate results number one. We started to notice that there were indeed different pockets of people in our audience and that was a huge realization to me. I mean on a implementation level. We had one email list that we were just sending the same email to every time once. I started to see that there were different levels of people and different experiences. That people were having under my brand at S. P. I. It was like Whoa like this advanced. Seo Article that we came out with has like shouldn't even reach the beginners and vice versa. Things that we're for beginners shouldn't even be seen by the more advanced segment yet. We were just putting everybody into one bucket which is sort of the most common thing so immediately we started to run some surveys. Using the question. The frameworks that you had especially that. I think the number one question was what's the number one biggest challenge. You have related to blink and what we did what you teach us to take. Those answers literally just regurgitate them back to everybody and the responses. And I've told you this before. Just people were like. How do you know like you don't be better than I know myself? And Oh my gosh. I found the right person. Like you understand and like like what like what you said if you can show that you understand them better than they can. They're going to automatically assume that. Well you must have the answers to so just a big heartfelt. Thank you from myself my team for helping us sort of create this framework of how to better surveillance. It's made us more money. It's made us have a higher email open rain and just number one just allowed to connect better with everybody. So thank you for that. You know I I love that and you know what makes me happiest is just the impact that you're having right. I'm GonNa huge fan of your staff since before we knew each other personally like I was a listener. I was a customer like for years before that and just to see the impact that you're having to be able to reach more people like that to me is you know. That's the reward right there so super happy about that man. Thank you so that book is called. Ask with probably the longest subtitle I've ever seen in a book but that's okay like at any time. Anybody comes to me. And he goes pat one. Write a book. I I need to make the subtitle short and sweet. I'm like you don't need to make it shortly. Get Ryan's Book. One word title right when you have a one word title. You need a subtitled to back it up. So people know like what the heck the book is actually about. Can you cite the subtitle to that? I'm sure you haven't memorized. Put me on the spot attitude at all about the. I don't put me on the spot. It's the longest funny funny story about that. I'm in talks with my publisher now for releasing a revised edition of the book. Not Saying that we're working on right now and we'll be coming out with that in a little over a year from now and that's one of the biggest topics is that they came to me said. Ryan we have to shorten the subtitle on the second version of the books up. It was the first book I ever wrote. And Gosh I mean I don't know if you think back to your first book like just there's so many things you don't know when you're writing a book. There's so many lessons that you learn and that's like one of you know a list of a thousand things that you know do different next time around. Sure subtitles so yeah well. We'll get to that new version whenever IT COMES OUT. Let me know because it has been impactful for me and there's some big things happening in it. Were changing some of the framework that we teach. So we you remember the concept of hyper responsive so going those people that give you those long. Passionate detailed response is really focusing on that segment of the market. That's like you know akin to your superfan concept like these are super fans when they're like or their heart out you and they and they really have a lot going on what we've revised we find that formula to also incorporate not just the length of response that people give you but also measuring how much time they've spent trying to solve the problem that you're asking about and how much money they've invested in their life to try to solve that problem with that. There's an algorithm that helps you identify. The precise pocket of people who have spent money spent time and have a burning desire to solve that problem. That is what you want to focus everything in your business around your messaging your products and everything else. So that's just about a dozen sort of refinements and enhancements that are coming around the corner so I'll tease you with that for before the the book comes out now. I I like that a lot. I can see that working really well. I have a lot of students who asked me pat like I have the segment of my audience that I really wanNA focus on. But which one should I actually have a conversation with and you know I think having the people who have spent money's a good thing because you know that they've tried and there were perhaps willing to try and work with you to solve that problem is you can fix it for them. They're likely going to be the most outspoken people to spread that message for you even more. So thank you. For mentioning a super fans I think. A lot of my kinds of content. In your kinds of consonant blend. Well together and I think that's where Your News Book Choose. Fits really nicely and so one word title again. Not Ask but choose now. A little bit shorter subtitle. But what is the Sort of Hypothesis here what what? What is this book for? Yeah you know so so when I when I release ask again I I'm author. I had no idea what to expect. I put it out there and again. The book is really about understanding your audience. How to how to ask the right questions to understand what it is your audience truly wants and what I struggled with is after the book literally hundreds of thousands of people around the world publishing all these different languages. I kept coming back to the fact that some people would come to me and they'd write me these heartfelt letters and they say Ryan was huge out of the book. But I tried what you taught and it didn't work and when something like that happens it's sort of like a sucker punch in the gut. It's like well what did I do wrong and so I did some deep reflection and looked at what am I missing? What are the gaps in the methodology? What's what's missing and what ended up happening is I saw that. There is a trend and all roads kept pointing to the same direction. And that's this People were following the methodology to the tea. And they're still failing because of one reason and that one reason was that they were choosing bad markets meaning. They were following the process of asking what people want. Identifying the hyper spots of segmented the market but they are going into markets that had no chance of succeeding in the first place and the metaphor that I use on a show. This in the book I think is really helpful. It sorta like this. It's like when you start a business you can. It's like tossing your your raft in a river and you can have the best wrath. Money can buy you the best equipment you can hire a crew to row in that raft with you but if you put your raft in the river and it's pointed in the wrong direction or worse yet you put your Raft River. That doesn't have any water in it. It doesn't matter how hard you row. How good you're you're never GonNa get to your destination. You're never gonNA get to that place that you want to go. And what I realize is that I'd given people the best raft in equipment but I did not teach them how to find the right river. The Right River for you the river. That's not too big not too small. The river that has a current that propels you forward as opposed to paddling upstream in China. You know do it on your own how to find that river and So I went on a three year research project. really identify. What does it mean to have a market that is going to set you up for success and the book is really all about the data and empirical study that? I went through looking at the twenty-three businesses that that I've started since I've been doing this for twenty three different markets that we've gone into all sorts of different weird niches researching the business that my clients have gone into again in all sorts of different markets and trying to identify. What are the trends like if you were to boil it down? It's easy for you and I to say we'll pick a good market right. But what does that mean exactly and much like ask? It's very analytical approach to measuring things like pre existing demand measuring things like size of the market and. What is the right size market? That's not too big and not too small. But how do you measure that as ring things? Like what are the criteria your market should have? And what is the sort of the checklist of things that you're looking for before you die right and and that's what the book is all about. It's all about how to pick the right market before you start your business. Which I claimed in this book is the single. Most important decision one needs to make. When you're starting your business is who you're going to serve for sure. I mean I've written about similar things in willow fi obviously business validation. And how did you that and I think what I love about your book and your take on it is it can work in conjunction with the things I teach and we'll fly very well and you. On the more data data driven analytical side of things I think with those powers combined I think you can make some magic happen where I focused on and will it fly to start. The book was really on before we even get into the figuring out of which river to get into or income stream. If you will sorry well. How much does this idea or that potential market make sense for you as a person so? I'm curious to know where you before we get into like I wanNA know with what analytics to look at it. I want to know how do you determine the market viability from a data standpoint? But where do you lie on the spectrum of well it needs to also be something that you're interested in or quote unquote as we often say passionate about? How much does that matter when it comes to? Choosing an engineer is what I found is that to be successful in business. You really need to things you need something. That has the potential to be profitable but it also needs to fuel. Your soul needs to fill your bank account but it needs to fuel your soul as well if you don't have both of those things in conjunction with one another. Eventually you're going to you're going to give up. You're going to move onto something else because if you're not fulfilled you're going to say. This is just a holloway to make money. And if you're not making any money you're going to have to you know you're GONNA have to get a job right. Would you make money? And so what I've found in the in the research that he did is that they're really four different types of people that I've found who wanNA start a business that's what I call the four different entrepreneurial types and the first type is what we call a mission based entrepreneur now mission base as I go through these. If you're listening to this or watching this right now what encourage you to do is just to reflect on? Which of these four types do you most identify with if you had to pick just one so paddle? I'll I'll throw it out your way but anyone else listening to this as well. We'll play fun little game so the first type of entrepreneurs what we call the mission based entrepreneur michigan-based entrepreneurs are drawn to starting a business because they have a cause that they're passionate about. It's a IT'S A. It's a cause that they would die on a hill for it's a Christie. Kennedy is an example that I talk about in the book so Christie is is a is a mom who has a son who is autistic and he was bullied in school as a young boy and so as a mom decided that she had to do something about so she went to the school and and started to Get involved and and one thing led to another and she started developing a program to help eliminating bullying from her child school. Which led the school district ask if she would do it for the entire school district which led the state ask if she'd do it for the entire state which led to helping over two thousand schools around the country With a program that she's developed to eliminate bullying in elementary schools. Now she's an example of that mission based entrepreneur someone who's drawn to move people away from something negative in life and then build a business around it and it's in contrast with the second type of entrepreneur which is the passion based Entrepreneur Passion based entrepreneurs tend to have something that they're passionate about. It's like a hobby or love whether it's Back to the future and delorean's or a Lego or playing the guitar or learning how to paint or whatever it may be. They've got something that they love that they're passionate about in their life and they want to transform that. Passion into their vocation. So examples are like Charlie Wallace Charlie. A hotel in the Book Charlie. Traveling is part about heavy metal rock band and to make a little bit of extra money. Start Teaching people how to play Guitar Online while he ended up growing that into a business that makes over two million dollars a year. They just released their first. Lp and it landed on the billboard charts the hard rock billboard charts number thirteen. You know named one of the top thirty entrepreneurs under the age of thirty by Forbes and he's just on this rocket ship and it all started with this passion around playing guitar that he transformed into his business. So that's the passion based now. The difference between the two are mission based entrepreneurs typically want to move people away from something negative in Life Passion Base Entrepreneurs WanNa move people towards something positive that they love. Those are both in contrast with the third type of entrepreneur which is the most classic entrepreneur in the sense of the word which is the opportunity based entrepreneur opportunity based entrepreneurs don't necessarily have a mission or passion that they're drawn to. They're the type of person that sees opportunity everywhere right. They're the type of person that says. How is it that nobody's built a collapsible stand to hold a camera when you're traveling so you can shoot southie videos like how is it that nobody is built something like this? Let's create that right so opportunity based entrepreneurs tend to see gaps in the marketplace in? Ask themselves that question. How's it that nobody's done this and the fourth and final type of entrepreneurs actually the type of entrepreneur that I consider myself to be and it's what we call the undecided entrepreneur now. The entrepreneur is someone who knows they. WanNa start a business. They know they want to go into business for themselves but they just don't know what that would be like. They're in love with the idea being their own boss having their own business making their own hours having that freedom but as far as what type of business or what market to go into their really undecided. Now that's who I was when I first got started in anyone in that situation. What I recommend is the prescription is to start what I call a practice business now just like learning how to drive a car. Most of US didn't learn how to drive a car in our dream. Car are forever car right like we learned an old beater like for me. It was an old you know as an old jeep. Rusted out floor stick shift. That's what I learned at a drive. But here's the thing. The skill of driving learning that skill to drive a car is something that you carry with you for the rest of your life so even if that first business that you start. Isn't your Dream Business. You're forever business. You're learning the skills. You're learning the steps just like learning how to drive your learning the process that you can transfer into your forever business for me. That unlocked this anxiety and that I had around having to pick the perfect business that was GonNa last that next twenty five years and so the first business I started was teaching people how to make scrabble tile jewelry by combining scrabble tiles from the game and Origami paper. Definitely not my forever business but it was a way to make money and learn the steps of building a website and writing emails and setting up ads online. And all the things that you need to learn. So I'm curious Before we go any further pat of those four and by the way we all have elements of all of them like we all have elements of album. I'm curious which of those four of you had to pick one most resonates with. Who who you are. I mean for me when I first started my lead exam. Business website to help people pass in architectural exam was definitely an opportunity based business. I saw a huge hole net market and I built something in an did very well. Obviously and then I started to see. Well I want to help other people and show people the positive that can come when you break out of the nine to five whether it's something unhappy with or you get laid off from like me and I want to show people the positive. That's that's in there. That's I feel where I'm at. I have this passion now for helping people and that's become my business In all kinds of different ways. I don't know if you would agree with that or not. But that's I think that's I think it's really perceptive and one of these that you pointed out there is that as you've grown in the last decade plus you we evolve like we all change like none of us are static and so for for someone listening to this right now. You may have been a certain type years ago when you may have evolved into a different sort of entrepreneurial type as you've had more experience and so I think that's really perceptive and interesting so yeah so to answer your original question around this passion or prophets like what's most important. Here's the thing to know. Each of these four has shadow side is a shadow side to watch out for and the shadow side is neither. None of these types is better than the others. They're all it's their agnostic that it just it is what it is but they each have a shadow side and I'll share what I mean by that. So mission based entrepreneur you fall into that mission based bucket the thing that you need to watch out for mission based entrepreneurs tend to struggle with making money. They're so drawn to the mission that they have in life that they put making money as being secondary to that mission and so they end up building a business. That doesn't give them what they want out of life. It doesn't allow them to have the freedom they want or make the impact relieved the legacy that they want because they're so drawn to the mission and they struggle with charging for what it is that they WANNA do. Pasha based entrepreneurs tend to tend to fall in love with their passion and building. A business around it runs the risk of becoming a leading to you to become dispassionate about that thing like for example if you love painting and you build a business around teaching people how to paint and suddenly that's Your J. O. B. That's your job and you need to make money doing that. You can lose the love that you once had about painting and so you need to be careful around that thing opportunity based entrepreneurs need to be careful that you don't just and maybe you experience this in the lead exam business where it's a way to make money but one day you wake up and you ask yourself and you say how am I doing with my life like. Is this really what I was put on this earth to do and you wake up one day and say yeah. I've made some good money doing this. But is this my calling and you sort of have this year this crisis of identity that can happen and the undecided entrepreneur. The thing that you need to watch out there is The just analysis paralysis it just swimming in that forever. See of maybe this business. Maybe that business. Maybe this business. Maybe that is a never actually picking something and taking the steps to move forward so once you kind of identify who you are you can be aware of the shadow side to watch out for just notice those signs in you that can hold you back from doing what it is that you WanNa do. That's amazing thank you for that breakdown. Man I'm going to chop it up. Put It on Youtube because that was freaking amazing. Thank you for that. And hopefully somebody listening to this can identify and perhaps even empathize with the struggles that they may be having and just knowing that you're not alone but these are common things but how might choose your book sort of help a person. No matter which category they fit in. Let's get into it. Sure Yeah so you know there's this perception that when you're starting a business. The single most important decision to make is what like? What am I going to sell? What's my business model going to be? But the reality is the most important decision is not what it's who. Who are you going to serve and really? That's what the book is all about. So it doesn't really matter if your mission based passion based Opportunity based undecided. We need to begin by asking ourselves the question. Who are we going to serve? That is the foundation on which your business is built in. So in your case pat you know. Who Do you serve you? Serve entrepreneurs aspiring entrepreneurs. That is that is your who right. That is the that is the single most important decision. What you do from there whether you have a podcast of course on affiliate marketing a book on. You know will it. Fly Book Super Fans whatever it may be the most important decision the. Who IS THE FOUNDATION? Which all other things are built right. If you're who was people learning how to play guitar you could do all the things you're doing. You can have a podcast. You can have multiple books. You could have courses. You can have all of those things but it just a different. It's a different. Who Different type of person that you're serving now. Turns out that there are certain characteristics that makes a market one that has the potential to be successful and one that has the potential a good chance to fail and I discovered this by going through as I mentioned earlier. Three years of research really reverse engineering every single one of the businesses that we've gone into so I've gone into markets as obscure as teaching people how to make jewelry or could care how to improve your memory selling high end. Water filtration systems beekeeping. Teaching People Tennis Teaching People. Golf weight-loss Fitness Fish Oil supplements I've gone into all these different spaces and not all of these businesses have been as successful as the rest. Some have been like home runs and others have been like total failures. And so what? I was looking at where. What were the common traits that made the home run businesses super successful and what were the common traits that made the failures not as successful and what I discovered? Is that there are five. Factors five things that you want to look for and what I'd love to do now. Just two people with success is to share what those five factors are so the business idea that you might be thinking about in the back of your mind whether your mission based passion based undecided or an opportunity base. The idea that you have in your mind you can run it through these filters and pat even for you as you're going through this but what might even be fun as if we pick one of the things that you've got going on. I know before you hopped on. We're talking about like there's you've got like a million things going on so if we just pick one of them just as an example and just kind of run it through this filter of these five key what we call market must house and just ask yourself. How many boxes does that idea check off? Does it checkoff all five? Four three two one and anyone at home watching or listening to this right now. I'd encourage you to do the same thing. Just think about that idea that you've been kind of thinking about in your mind or you have an existing business. Just ask yourself. How many of these boxes does that idea checkoff? So we'll start with the first one first. One is what we call. I'm going to pick the scope. I by the way just as an example new business that we're in physical product very specific who the WHO being will people who shoo video and we'll just go for them. So I'm you know use me as a guinea pig and everybody else play on. Please awesome good as a perfect example so first thing that I like to look forward market must have number one. Is You WANNA look for? What's called an evergreen market? What do I mean by that? While I mentioned a little bit earlier that the first business I started was teaching people. How to make scrabble tile jewelry and it was the first thing I I started. Got into that business because my wife one day came home. You know before we had started our business and I would you know was having dinner conversations with her with all sorts of crazy business ideas every single day like how about this and how about that and how about this and eventually when she said all right how about this and she showed me this brand new website. Is this two thousand six brand new website which is a huge site nowadays but it was brand new at that time called? Oetzi DOT COM and for anyone familiar. He's like Ebay for making handmade products and she said Take a look at this jewelry that selling like crazy and it was as jewelry that combined scrabble tiles with Origami paper and a resin on top of it that made it almost looked like a glass jewel and at the time we were living in China so before I got into this online space. My last real job. I was opening up sales offices for a company in China and my wife getting her PhD at Hbu Hong Kong University. And we're in Hong Kong and she'd take a look at this thing and she said look we're in China. We have access to all the Origami paper in the world. We have access to inexpensive labor. We can manufacture this jewelry. We can import it into the United States and we can get rich and I said Okay. Honey Timeout said. I don't know that I want to like chain myself to a factory in southern China to manufacture this jewelry. Like I want you know a location independent business. I want to travel freedom all these things and so we kinda shut the door and the idea a few weeks later. I'm having again one of these conversations about this idea. What about that idea? And she said what about this turns a computer Michelle mcgann and she once again shows me at since she says what about that. Scrabble tile thing said honey. I thought we closed the door on it. And she said no no. No no no take a look. This woman is making the jewelry. She's teaching people how to make the jewelry look. She's selling this tutorial and she's teaching me how to make this jewelry now the cool thing about F C and this is a clue to finding a profitable market. The cool thing about Oetzi is you can see a person sales history you can see. Exactly how many units? They sold today yesterday the day before that so what I did I reverse engineered going back a couple months her income. How much money she was making and she was making over ten thousand dollars a month. Selling this tutorial how to teach people how to make scrabble tile jewelry so my wife bought the tutorial. It wasn't very good. It was like Microsoft Word like spelling. Mistakes was really bad. My wife learned how to make the jewelry. We built a better mousetrap. We started selling it and I you know first month. We sold a couple hundred dollars a couple thousand dollars next month. Five thousand dollars. Six thousand dollars. Eight thousand dollars. Oh my gosh brigadier rich like this is crazy. This is this is amazing and and I learned the first lesson that I wanNA share with everyone here and that's the next month. Our sales dropped to almost zero and it was at that moment that I realized that the market that we had gone into was nothing but a fad. The reason why most of us probably listening right now or wait. Scrabble tile jewelry like. What is that all about because it disappeared beanie babies or pogs or fidget spinners or any one of these things it was like a huge thing for about five minutes and then disappeared off a cliff and at this point. I had quit my job. My wife was finishing her her PhD. We had no income coming in. We had this moment where we looked at each other and said crap like now what and it led me to that first lesson which is going into an evergreen market so with that knowledge my wife and I moved back to the United States and we moved back to the United States. My Wife my wife got a job as a museum curator making forty thousand dollars a year and is just enough money to pay our living expenses in a tiny little apartment no furniture. I mean it was just very spartan living but it led me to create our next business. I said all right next business I go into. We have to go into a market. That isn't a fat and so I started doing research into one of the oldest longest lasting hobbies in America. And what I found was really interesting. Do you know what the number one hobby is in America? And it's been the number one hobby in America or number two for the last one hundred years any guesses on what it is. It's obvious when I say it but just I didn't know this when I when I did. The research. Woodworking close guarding guarding. Is the number one hobby in American? It's been it's gardening and reading guarding and reading have been the number one and number two hobbies in America for the last one hundred years and so I said okay. So that's something that's not going away. It's not like scrabble tiles jewelry and it's GONNA disappear. It's not going away. And I started doing research into different sub niches within the gardening market and eventually settled on Orchid. Care the reason or could care made the list is because when we lived in China we bought a bunch of orchids and they all died and I figured wealth. If I had the problems like caring for orchids in our house like other people have the same problem. So we went into that business and Followed the what's now known as the ask methods to understand what that market needs challenge that they have. We took business from nothing to about twenty five thousand dollars a month in eighteen months. My wife quit her job. We grew the business about half a million dollars a year and went on to become one of the twenty three markets that we just went into market aftermarket using this process. And so the key difference. Is You want to go into that market. That business by the way over twelve years later still pays all of our living expenses so everything that I do with ask and choosing everything that just like all on top that tiny little business still produces enough money to pay our bills over a decade later in the reason for that is because it's a market. That's not going anywhere right. It's an evergreen market so that's market must have number one. I like that. You offer any suggestions on either tools or ways to know whether or not something. A person who's interested is a fat or not. I would imagine that it might be difficult sometimes to know whether this new idea that I have could tomorrow on my favorite tool. This is a totally free tool. And it's one I think you may have. You may have talked about it. A little bit in either will it fly or or maybe one of your books are definitely in some of your courses. It's called Google Trends. So Google trends is of is a free tool put out by Google where they publish the search volume for keywords. Going back to I believe two thousand and four. So we have fifteen years of data that you can type in keyword like orchid care or fidget spinners or play guitar and you can see over fifteen years. What is that surge volume? Look like now if you look at a keyword fidget spinners. It's a fun one type in. You're GonNa find that the keyword volume spikes up the moon and then drops off a cliff. I'll give you another one. That spikes drops. It was a thing about maybe maybe about eighteen to twenty four months ago that everyone was talking about. It was the biggest business opportunity. You could not log into facebook or instagram or go anywhere without somebody talking about it. You know what I'm talking about now now. I'm so curious bitcoin. Of course there's time where everyone was like bitcoin this. I'm starting a Bitcoin podcast. Bitcoin membership. Everyone's talking about Bitcoin if you look at the search volume on Bitcoin. Bitcoin just shoots up to the moon and then falls off a cliff and then goes nowhere. So I caution people away from going into trending or fad markets. Because you don't know where you're going to ride like where you are in that that growth pattern are you at the top and ready to just fall off at the bottom of growth. So what I'm looking for is what I call. Metronome markets metronome markets. Just like a metronome for anyone who's studied music it just takes along tick tick tick and if you look at the Google Trends Graph. It's going to be stable. There may be a little seasonality to it but it's stable from one year to the next. So that's what you're looking for. Markets like that if you look at a market like orchid care. You'RE GONNA find that. It has that pattern this season. -ality do it because it's gardening sub niche but it is a market that just hums along year after year. So that's the first thing. But here's the thing. It's not enough to just be in an evergreen market. The second market must have is what we call an enthusiast market now. An enthusiast market is in contrast to a problem solution market. What do I mean that? A problem solution market is a market where people have a problem in their life and they go to solve it and then they move on never wanting to think about it ever again. Perfect example would be something like a flooded basement or removing a wart or removal is a problem solution market. You have a war. You Buy Medicine at the store. You're not blogging about it. You're not posting about it on social media you're not joining war enthusiasts facebook groups. You're just getting the problem solved in an. It's an embarrassing. Probably getting. It's all and you're moving on now. In contrast to an enthusiast market and enthusiast market is a market in which you can sell to the same person multiple products over an extended period of time. It's the market that you've chosen. It's why people bought your First Book Your Second Book Third Book. The reason why people listen to your podcast like me for Gosh going on five six seven. Eight years spread. It's the reason why people buy all of your courses because they stay enthusiasts in this market over multiple months and oftentimes multiple years so perfect example of an enthusiast market is orchid care or could care people by their first orchid. Oftentimes it leads to the purchase of five ten fifteen twenty orchids which leads to building a greenhouse out in the back which leads building a hydroponic system which leads to growing African violets and succulents and oh I grew my first fallon opposites but now I WANNA learn how to grow an unsteady. Amorin dendrobium before you know it. This hobby has just ballooned in mushroomed into this major part of this person's life so that's an example of an enthusiast market entrepreneurs enthusiast market interestingly weight loss and fitness is also an enthusiast market. If you know anybody in your life that's struggled with their body typically. It's not just a one and done solution right. People like for me like I have a personal trainer. I have all sorts of equipment t-rex equipment. I take all sorts of supplements like for me. Fitness and personal health is like a thing that will spend decades in my life but those are the type of markets. You're looking for enthusiasts. But it's not enough to just be an an evergreen and enthusiast market you need market must have number three before we got to number three. I do have a question about that. That mean so we're talking about the market being enthusiasts. Not necessarily your one solution being something that people can come back to or you having a next level for it right because Corron thinking about mine lead exam stuff. It's very much something that people WanNa take that exam and then they're done with it but I could have that like that's the the singular tiny market of the lead exam but there are more exams people could take so I could have potentially offered tips and advice and strategies and practice exams for the architectural exam and other ones beyond that so when it comes to choosing a niche. I'm just wondering how narrow perhaps we should get in. How how does that narrow the market for us or should we potentially go Kay? Well this is where this is the first problem. I want to solve but there are other ones that I could potentially go into later. And that's that's good enough for me to say us to this. It's such a good question so when we look at your products we're focusing on the individual product as opposed to the market itself so using our case. Study right now right exactly. So that's a product within the market that you serve and it's one of many things that people buy so for example they buy that product. And then maybe there's another piece of equipment that they that's the next purchase for them like so for example. They may need a a second one. They meet needed course. They may need a all sorts of different things that they can purchase. Oh there's a there's a that's a sub market within the market that you actually serve which is people who film themselves typically in a remote environment rightly traveling. They're filming and that's why they have that. They're moving around in some way. Maybe it's just in their home and office or whatever but that's the the use case for the product but it's it's a sub market within that now I do want to answer your question about size. Let's get to that after we get through. The five market must have one of those share is one of the biggest insights. I've had in my entire career spanning anything which is when I started looking at the market size of my most successful businesses in compared it to the ones that weren't as successful. I found what we now describe as the market size sweet spot. So we've found the right size. That's not too big not too small back to that. I do WANNA get through. The Market Must House I. Yeah so Of course gotTA tease right. So we're at number three right. So we evergreen markets number one number two enthusiasts. But it's not enough to be in an enthusiast evergreen market y'all need market must have number three which is to initially solve an urgent problem in the context of that enthusiast market so in other words it's not enough to just go into the orchid care market. It's not enough to just go into the dog training market or the guitar market. You have to identify. What is an urgent problem? That people need to solve immediately in that space. I'll give you an example in the orchid market. The urgent problem that comes up is people Go to bed. They're ORCAS healthy. They wake up the next day and they flip the light switch on and their kitchen and all the blooms on the orchid have fallen off out of nowhere and that leads them to say crap. What did I do wrong like? Did I give it too much? Water did it to committee what what did I do. What's going on? They go online and they type in how to get my orchid to re bloom how to get the blooms to come back to life. They're looking for a solution to that urgent problem that they want us all right then and there. I'll give another example. The dog training market is a perfect market. It's an evergreen market. Man's best friend that's not that's not changing anytime soon Enthusiasts market think about all the if people are if your dog owner like you have. You're in that market for years right from the time that you have a little puppy to An older senior dog and everything in between oftentimes people have multiple pets that span their entire life and urgent problem in that market would be for example. You bring home in you poppy. What happens when you bring you poppy? All-star he'd be yeah. These everywhere rights is peeing on the carpet on the couch on the bed. Whatever so you've got to potty train that poppy so it doesn't take too many nights of the dog making a mess on the better the carpet of the couch. Before you know your spouse honey we gotta deal with this like we got to solve this thing which leads you to go online and fix it another example of an urgent problem. I talk about women in in my book choose. She and her husband built a business called sleep sets and they basically help. Parents of newborn infants get their newborn baby to sleep through the night. So we think about when your kids were Newborns right think about when you and your wife were not getting good sleep it's miserable. Nobody's happy right when no one's getting good sleep and it reaches a point where it's like we gotta do something about this and so they help. Parents of newborn infants get their kid to sleep through the night for the first time. That's an example of an urgent problem in the context of an enthusiast market. Now here's the thing when you saw that urgent problem for someone getting the kid to sleep through the night potty training the puppy bring the orchid back to life. When you saw that urgent problem you then become that person's trusted adviser for life in that particular space because people go Dana. Thank you so much. But here's the thing my kids not eating. What do I do about it or the orchids? This is great. The blooms have come back to life but I WANNA bring a new type of orchids my home or the potty training thanks for teaching. My dog had a To go to the bathroom outside but now my dog is pulling on a leash when I take her outside like. How do I get her to behave? When I'm going on walks and leads us to market must have number four. Which is you need to be in a market. That has future problems you need to be in a market that the success of solving that I market leads to demand to solve the next problem in that market AG- in example. If you teach people haven't negotiate a better salary all of a sudden if I teach you how to add a ten fifteen ten fifteen thousand dollar raise money that you didn't have before that creates a new problem that you didn't have which is what do I do with this extra money. Like what's the best way to invest it do? I put it in my 401k. Joe I set up a roth. Ira What's the best way to use that additional salary to further my financial goals? Well that's a problem that that person never had before because they have been living paycheck to paycheck just just being able to cover their expenses. All of a sudden they get this ten fifteen thousand dollars a year windfall. What do I do about it? So when you're in a market where you solve a problem for someone but it creates a new problem. Your future problems that you can solve you will be. You'll have a customer for years and years and years and years the online space that you and I are both in is a perfect example of that right once you choose your market. What's the next thing you gotta ask that market what they want once you ask them what they want? You've got to sell them something. You is it affiliate marketing. Is it? Starting A PODCAST? He is it. What tack do I need to use? How do I build my email? List Howard Beale my audience. How to recreate a an audience of super fans like every problem that you solve leads to a new problem. It's one of one of my mentors. Likes to say new level you devil and really what that means is when you have future problems that you can help someone solve. You can have a customer that can span literally decades. They can be a customer of yours for life and that takes us to market not must have number five which is the most important one. And that's this you need to be in a market that is filled with P W ams and that stands for players with money. What I mean by that is. You can't sell to broke people. This is something that a lot of people struggle with. You can't sell to someone who can't put a roof over their head can't pay their mortgage can't put food on the table. If they can't cover those basic essentials those necessities in their life. They don't have the money to invest in. Whatever it is that you wanna serve them right I made this mistake one of the first businesses that I went into where. In retrospect it's so obvious but it went into a business That we that we created called scrapbooking bargains. So basically. It was a business that we help. People find bargains on supplies for scrapbooking. Now here's the thing scrapbooking in and of itself is a is a pretty inexpensive hobby right. So it's just. It's not a hobby like yachting. That requires hundreds of thousands of dollars. You can you can start scrapbooking for you. Know getting stuff at the used bookstore and now to teach people who are bargain-hunting in that market. That's like the bottom of the bottom of the bottom. It was market for people that don't want to spend any money at all. So in retrospect it was a terrible decision. But there's so many people who go into markets like that like for example. I just had a conversation with With one of my with one of my coaching clients literally yesterday. And she's deciding what markets go into and one of the ideas that she had was helping mental health professionals were fresh out of school build their business and I said Okay. Timeout a second so these are mental health professionals. They've gone to school. For How many years? How much student loan debt do they have at this point? How much money do they have left over to invest in their business? That's going to be a challenge like as much as you may be drawn to serve that market if you're not in a market with PWS players with money You're GONNA struggle now. The interesting thing about it is. It doesn't necessarily mean that you're selling to millionaires or billionaires. What it means is that you're looking for a pocket of people who have demonstrated to spend a disproportionate amount of their income in that area of their life. So for example for me getting my haircut. I get my haircut. It's like a fifteen dollar haircut. I don't spend any money at all on a haircut. My mom is a hairdresser so my mom cut my hair growing up so I just can't justify spending a lot of money on a haircut Lego. I'm a superfan right. Like I just got the Hogwarts hogwarts six thousand and twenty peace hogwarts castle set. That's GonNa take kids and I like three months to build. It's like a five hundred dollars set like I'll spend any amount of money on Lego. I have literally a blank cheque book when it comes to Lego when it comes to Lego I'm appear wm. I'm a player with money. I will spend money on that air of my life and you see it right so dog training perfect example people spend crazy amounts of money on their dog right organic dog food and doggy spa days doggy hotel and all the items and leashes and bowls and Christmas ornaments and all the things that people spend on their dog crazy amounts of money. So what you're looking for is a market that is filled with that type of person and has demonstrated a demand among p wm so five market. Ma Stops Evergreen market. So it's not a a one and done market. It's here to stay enthusiast market. Can you sell multiple things to the same person in that market over a period of years? Are you solving an urgent problem that they need solving now so that you can become their trusted adviser for Life Number Four? Are there future problems that you can sell that you can solve for that person and sell additional products and services them over time and finally p? Wm's other players with money in the market that you're looking to solve some. I know I can see the wheels turning. You're looking you're looking at over. I'm just curious your initial reaction as you think about. At least you're the product and the market that you're selling that product. Yes so let's let's go through with the switch pot and thank you for that. I have my notes in front of me so number. One Evergreen market is there an evergreen market for people who buy video equipment absolutely ever since the JVC came out in the eighties like people have been just insane with buying personal cameras and accessories? People want to document life right. They want to document life their own life other people's lives like that is. I feel like that's a core human element and that's not changing anytime soon. China shutting down and the the bloggers and all that stuff even though quote unquote blogging is a newer ish. Sort of market. There are players like Casey Nine Peter Mackinnon who are obviously showing up helping inspire. Many many more people doing it. So it's definitely not fat. That's for sure. But number enthusiasts market versus problem solution. I mean people go crazy with videos. I mean it becomes their whole life. They the bill businesses around it. They travel the world. I don't think I have to worry about that at all. Fit that number three salsa urgent problem yes. This is exactly why we built this product. It solves the problem of being able to quickly. Take your camera with you. Pack it away nicely but then deployed into tripod mood in just a few seconds and that was the problem that we we saw the interesting thing about. This is now that people have seen that. We've solved this little problem. We have hoards of people coming to us now going Pat Caleb. I had this other kind of way that I shoot. Can you build a product to help me with that? And we're like all right so we have this whole backlog of different kinds of rigs and things that we could do with or even brand new products to help people in the in the so. They are coming to us. Go Hell you. You're builders in in the locker space like I need this now too. Which is really exciting. Ask Awesome so solving the problem. And that's immediately segue perfectly into number four future problems. Your market is telling you. These are the additional problems that I need. Help solving PAT. Can you help me solve these problems right? Exactly and and and so one clear. Example is pat like You know I'm using the switch PA but I want to add some lights and stuff to it to the lighting. Now that I have the ability to shoot here is not as good so okay. We can create some accessories and solve problems in all kinds of different ways. Definitely I mean something. That's very favorable for us in this market of videographers videographers. As you know love to spend money on gear so there's definitely players with money for sure so I think it fits the bill and we're seeing the results of it right now and. I think we did pretty well with that. You did really well and I'll say you know you you hit the nail on the head on the POW MP's which is the barrier to entry in this particular market from a amount of money you need to spend is relatively high. That's a good indicator right. So for example in contrast video is a hobby or part of a part of your job. But it's it's a thing that requires a fair amount of money to get started versus. Let's say playing chess. You can get a chessboard at a Flea Market for probably ten bucks and you can have that one chessboard that you keep with you for the rest of your life video equipment is this never ending so I mean I'm in my studio right now. I'm just looking at dollar signs of like every camera and light and microphone and the trust and like everything that we have here. It's just a fortune for all this stuff. So when you're thinking about is this a market with. Wm's ask yourself what's the barrier of entry into that market in terms of how much money people need to spend. What do you tell somebody who's listening to this? And they're going. Oh crap I do not have peak W M's in my niche right went away. Well I would ask. Yeah so the first thing I would ask is if you're having overwhelming success by all means don't let the slow you down right. There's an exception to every rule right. So if you're knocking it out of the park and you're saying well I only checkoff. Maybe three out of five of these boxes but things are going great. Don't let anything that. I'm saying here dissuade you from continuing that path. However if you're struggling if you're not making the progress that you wanna be making taken open and honest look. I've made every mistake in the book right so. Pwlb's one of my first businesses teaching people how to improve their memory. I did that because I studied neuroscience in college. I wanted to make my parents happy and use my degree in some way because I wasn't going into medical school and so I built this business rocket memory. I thought this is really gonNA teach people how to improve their memory. Who did I attract broke? Students people who are studying for their L. sets the lead exam 'em cats. They were studying for standardized tests and they needed to memorize a huge amount of information. So they're buying our our program. These were broke students when I was a college student. I didn't have any money at all while I only knew that. In retrospect so sometimes the answer is you can make a pivot in a different direction and make a tweak in your business and find something that does check off these boxes. Sometimes though it's better to just you know what the pause button on this thing and I'm going to go in a different direction altogether But again stick a close hard. Look at where you're at and if you're hitting the results you wanna hit keep going and if not some this is a good rubric. A good framework to help evaluate the market. That you're thinking about going into and I would imagine that there might be an opportunity for if you are targeting a niche. Where perhaps you are offering things to people who may not have the money to invest in you and your products right now. You could potentially stay in the same market but offer that to people in a much more white glove fashion or in a much more accessible fashion to people who wouldn't essentially pay for it so instead of bargain been scrapbooking stuff like stay scrapbooking. But let's go high into the person who lives in that really a fluent community to create an experience with them in their kids and do it that way have fewer clients paying more. You could stay in the same niche but just decide who within that Niche. You want to target instead exactly. Sometimes it's just a minor pivot that makes all the difference in the world like that woman. I mentioned who wanted to help. Mental health professionals looking to start their first business just shifting to mental health professionals that have a successful practice that they want to go from a brick and mortar practice to building an online presence. That one shift alone is enough for her to be successful. And that's the path that she's on it she is experiencing success so sometimes it is just a minor tweak like that that makes all the difference. Love it and finish up here. I mean number one. Everybody should definitely go get your book? I think we have a special link. Actually where you can go get it for free with just pay for shipping right. What is that link? Choose the book. Dot Com forward slash S. P? I go there get it. Choose the book Dot Com Slash S. P. I get for free. Just pay for shipping. Get some other bonuses there too. You'll see it on that page. Choose the book. Dot Com Slash S. P. I but I don't WanNA leave people. Hanging there is a market size. Sweet spot that you mentioned earlier. What is that? There's too sweet spots so in addition to these five market must house. There's too sweet. Spots one has to do with size one do with competition and they both fall within an optimal range that you're looking for so let's start with size so I looked at every single one of our most successful businesses. And I'M GONNA leave with this caveat. My experience has largely been in the space of Teaching People. How to a in spaces where? I'm selling education and expertise. What what do I mean by that? Teaching Online Courses Coaching and consulting doing live events as opposed to physical e commerce products. So I'm going to lead this massive caveat that what I'm about to say applies to this specific type of business so podcasting online courses anywhere where you're sharing your knowledge of other people's knowledge and you're transforming into income and so what. I looked at his every single one of our businesses the most successful the least successful. What I found is that every single one of our most successful businesses fell within a very narrow range on Google trends and in the book choose. I made the very difficult decision to reveal with the world by most successful businesses. What they are. What the key words are we. Call Your Bullseye Keyword. Which is something. I teach how to come up with in your book. How do you identify what you're bullseye? Keyword is and had compare your market idea against what I call the Rosetta stone keywords so just like the Rosetta Stone. Translating Greek in hieroglyphics and it was the kind of the key you can plug in your. He word idea against these reference keywords and now does your market ideal fit within the sweet spot is it too big is too small and if it's in the sweet spot you've got a green light if it's outside the sweet spots a yellow light or a red light to help decide if you WANNA move forward similar to that there's also a competition sweet spot. The best way to measure competition online is to look at how much money people are spending on paid advertising on that keyword. You're looking for a market where there is evidence of people spending money but not so much competition that you're going to be eaten alive and it's sort of the old people do one of two things with competition. They either get super excited. That nobody else has their idea or they get super bummed out that other people are doing it and both of those are problematic because the thing that you want to look for is a market where people are succeeding in spite of themselves. One of my mentors wants taught me that. You WanNa look. You WanNa be a settler. Not a pioneer pioneers get shot but settlers get rich so find a market where other people are succeeding in spite of themselves. And once again choose. I reveal all the formulas although the process for measuring paid advertising online. How to do it using free tools and free resources so you can be in that perfect size sweet spot perfect competition sweet spot and check off the five market must haves and the last thing I'll say. Is this with this free book that we wanted to to give away to everyone listening to this right now. I also have resource. It's normally paid resource. I'm just GonNa give it to everyone for free. Which is a list of one hundred markets that actually check all five of the market must haves fit inside the market size sweet spot and the competition suites by? This is my personal. As I mentioned I went into twenty three different markets. This is the next one hundred markets that I would be going into if I had the time that. Pass all of these tests. I'm just GONNA give that to folks for free so if you want to just pick a market off that list you can do that or compare your markets one of those and give you a bunch of examples so I'm hoping that's going to be super helpful and PAT. I just want to say thanks so much for the opportunity to be sharing this year today. Yeah thank You Ryan. Choose the book dot Com slash. Spic thanksgiving man. Appreciate you hoping to have you back on the show in the future. But thanks for all the value that you offer and Everybody should check out the book and check out the Free Resource and Appreciate man thank you so much all right. Hope you enjoyed that interview with Ryan Leveque again. The author of choose you can check out his book at choose. The Book Dot Com Slash S. P. I and get it shipped to you for free. Just pay for shipping or like it's not shipped for free but anyway it's a small dollar amount for what you get to choose the book dot Com slash. Sap I you can also check out the show notes at smart passive income dot com slash session for one one smart passive income dot com slash session. Four one one and finally just want to know what you think about this episode. 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NGOPI #20 - Pengaruh Kesholihan Orang Tua Terhadap Anak Part. 2 (Ustadz Dr. Fachri Fachrudin, S.H.I., M.E.I.)

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NGOPI #20 - Pengaruh Kesholihan Orang Tua Terhadap Anak Part. 2 (Ustadz Dr. Fachri Fachrudin, S.H.I., M.E.I.)

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Glowy and the Friend Adventure/The Big Chance (feat. Jeremy Sisto)

Story Pirates Podcast

37:36 min | 1 year ago

Glowy and the Friend Adventure/The Big Chance (feat. Jeremy Sisto)

"Or not to dance Oh that's not right hey meghan what are you doing. Well I'm having trouble memorizing the lines for my one woman Hamlet Hey grownups before we start the show we have a quick message for you from today's sponsor the makers of Hillshire farm lunch me too right you can find Hillshire farm lunch meat at your local grocery store today slow roasted to make your meals quick and delicious see how that will help how about this Hillshire farm oven roasted Turkey breasts Peter again the type of delicious Hillshire farm lunch meat wasn't the issue ready story pirates nine took over your ship or from standing right in front of you now I'll be your captain you might be feeling a little different up here without gravity or sunlight millions of white where's on both sides that probably lead fancy rooms and labs here we are always have uh-huh follow me this way for your Orientation Orientation Hallway always have this nice white hallway lined with yeah well this is really good to be or not to be that is the Salami still not feeling of taking off into space definitely feel sick from taking off took pirates stop complaining and look outside the the screening room no I've changed a lot of things around here this place was disgusting it's beautiful out there I figure I could see my house now Peter you can't okay I can't so what do we do now south they're doing incoming communication Audi now ship this is the Galactic Space Alliance we are coming on board meets aren't going to solve my problem try this I don't know if the sandwich featuring Hillshire farm lunch meat is really one and we have gifts for you and if you don't have gifts for us that would be well a huge football really an epic failure an error the consequences of eh six five three away from everyone you know in love with no return date in sight he doesn't feel very well commission I'm watching a movie but there's so much to love and learn about I'll never get sick of the like my story for other people just right for yourself okay you're all ready for a party oh no no I forgot about the space friends alliance they're gonNA want to welcome you to space this sounds fun what could go wrong whether this video to welcome you to space and dry welcome to space hi I'm naming you may recognize me from before the report through time and space for eternity loops the point is okay I get it but how about this Hillshire farm roast beef ultra thin sliced hard salami routine rest stop lunch very space that soon you'll be asking off this is going to be fun what's that big shit how welcome back to the story pirates podcast everyone where we take stories written by kids and turn them into sketch comedy and songs like can't believe I forgot about the space friends alliance off the problem I love it okay. Listeners our first story was written by two brothers and it's about the most important adventure any person in order sea creature could ever go on the adventure to find a friend here are the authors to introduce it if they don't get gifts that are going to be furious but we have nothing to give them I know I know maybe we should just do a story and think about this later pudding they go for the imagination once there was a whale named Golo e high he lived in a luxury came mansions sleet he was always happy in California and this girl I read it adventure theme is missing friend someone to share my luxury gave mansion with me Fred Get Outta here finish your story solely pilots enormous bathtub because I'm when he suddenly realized despite the size of his KABC felt small and alone He swam you every room and he was MS send them through every room and he say some aw I need so he made one last attempt to search they do synchro pot roasts and playing his fish station for in single player mauled one day the whale named below e that's me was cleaning his my name is hi I'm nine years old and I'm never neared and we would and so he decided to search see I'm off to find the friend spot I need someone to share my luxury came mansion with me that's what I need the horn between my in globally say I would never swim away as your friend I'm here that would be sweet body can live in my mansion with me we sure said the Narwhal he wasn't scared of chloe's booming voice fishes off and swim from me the nearly lost all hope when he changed course and swam towards the North Eh Topley ever after now lease speaks with the author so my friend asks Chloe squeal the finish he was afraid of choice uh-huh women drawers rain will you be the Smith aw that's what I need so he continue to start to see stay yeah I finally found a friend Ilise we'd if you shared my laundering mansion sweet it's the Krill Pot roasts for someone that might not know can you tell them what Krill is for Krill tiny kind of fish that first time and I say it's gone pretty well I would also say that I love the detail about how Globe they were bred aww you'll see all together you and me girl Sousse you might not know that it's a tooth when you first see it right so basically that big long tusk thing is that other than I thought I hope I now I have a friend that's all I need somebody who is free of me of friends in June he was scared of Blois saw blowy say oh well that's fine actually to break I didn't actually know that I thought it was a horn yeah well it's a two doesn't that make it hard to eat Silas I wanNA know what inspired you to write glowing in the friend adventure well I'm not the one who got the inspiration I think you're right early a lot of listeners know it on our wall is but can you describe one so it's just like a sort of small scale with the very long uh-huh so I thought glowing would probably like croce you guys wrote about Nar walls too I think so those aches when they got like cold or like when they felt fear they like talk `bout humans that is like an evolutionary trait that sort of like the Narwaz tooth that you could think of we're after shooting show they had something that they didn't have now and then they evolved to have it what makes them evolve most Wales or well sharks is like a bunch of it they swim around collecting them and their mouths and just chomp and then probably some died so then they like adapted to have that big long tooth to break through the ice wow is there something what does that mean that they evolved like that let me step like really a long time ago they were wanting You know we have goosebumps Oh yeah yeah I've heard of goosebumps yeah so basically how it works is that a long time ago so fun to talk to you today thank you for letting US perform your story you walk on by after that Clive writing do you guys collaborate on stories a lot well we never actually have collaborated on a story before yeah okay that's enough thing now it is time for gifts will present you with your gifts from the alliance to begin behold a quilted blow luncheon on Krill so he mustered up this courage in his will can you be my friend as aw and exchange gifts yes we have your gift of course you do I mean if you didn't know would be extremely mad abs- okay I have this are a screwdriver to give you I made you a piece of paper who knows what I would do really do you want your gifts now of course not how Gauche I I absolutely insist we have exporting around take lakes swam out the double doors found a Sea Urchin Jew and on the ocean floor will you be my friend asked Khloe reports sometimes too it's very rare for too but yeah that's pretty much what it is it has a long lying around hey my autograph is worth tens of sense I won't stand for this you come into my outer space without gifts for me doc more to like keep she in and like look bigger more scary so we still have like goosebumps maybe when we're called our body Paris great with a nice cauliflower steaks and hear a fallen star from the galaxy o have one thing or a different thing is there ever a reason I'm pretty sure that the normal probably didn't have a big long to then they couldn't get through the we'll come to you with none other than approaches star is very disappointing there will be consequences gasp hey grownups looking for some fun wall decor for your story pirates fans we have posters featuring all of the art from season to available Wii I see what's happening year yes you did get me any gifts at all and now you're trying to give me a bunch of old garbage I had other teeth its mouth but that too is specifically for breaking ice such a weird design for an animal all like that is out now get brand new episodes songs and stories wherever you get your podcasts and don't forget to leave us a rating and review only right back hey grownups leave here with your weekly announcements season three of the story pirates podcast come to your school we're now booking school programs for the twenty nineteen twenty twenty school year bring in class creative writing residencies and shows it's not just lead Peter Meghan Rachel anemone there are so many more amazing story pirates and you can see a lot of them right now someone to share my luxury K. Mansion with me we can make a Krill Barak uh-huh well hello everyone didn't mean to startle you sorry just wanted to come aboard welcome how you can find them on story pirates dot com slash store along with shirts and brand new kids hoodies for fall the story parents want explorer cooled nights a bottle of the finest gas from the planet Torga try odle solve that problem Hillshire farm honey Ham Peter just because hamlet is the title of the show doesn't mean there's ham in it okay you should know better there's nothing more important to the alliance than gifts you have made Garrido error here today we didn't mean to we've been traveling for so long on tour so come see us in New York City on November sixteenth in December fourteen Los Angeles California on October twenty third and December Eighth Bethel Woods Alga Moustache Wax I got you my autograph here you've got nothing sick free Michelle please we didn't mean anything by it we just forgot God I have this for you see brought you this happy bag of potato we're story pirates we come from planet Earth we take stories written by kids and turn them into sketch comedy and songs sketch comedies lakeside. Yeah Yeah so can you tell them much inspiration I kind of nate the name growing it just came to me and then what happened for school or Community Center by visiting story PIRATES DOT com slash school programs did you know there are a lot of story pirates that's right work on November second and Midland Michigan on November twelfth for Dates Times tickets and more visit story pirates dot com now back yes we used to live in New York City but Lee bought a ship on the Internet and we set sail for the open seas I was the captain of that ship came in very story pirates once I siegel tried to steal my mustache but I was wrong we traveled far and wide meeting sea creatures learning to speak Porpoise and celebrating the words and ideas of kids everywhere we went they crashed onto a deserted island where they met me siegfried I help them rebuild told into so many different places we didn't even know it'd be meeting you we've just been so focused on our mission your mission yes see and a gift card to the mock why oh well that's all she wrote what do you have for me the things tried to tracking in this bumps that's what goosebumps are yeah pretty much I had no idea that's so cool Clive Silas this has been giants and conspiracy theorists until Loofah indic- came along and brought them to space we're just trying to get back to her home planet the ship and using my viking magic helped to take off into the sky we spent a whole season flying around the sky meeting aw call in sick wow sounds like somebody needs to work on their bedside manner oh I almost forgot you never Dr Rubin Good Morning Future Dr Welcome are we don't have gifts but you have to forget us mean stuff behind your back doesn't sound that bad so would you like to hear another story yes please all right another doctor Luigi why never rude who are you who am I am the one in on the listeners this next story is about a character named Isabella who has a dream a dream to become a doctor but in order to live I in just a moment while you guys were really here the big chance I know Isabella we've worked so hard I'm so excited after all these years the medical students who will never be doctor I see you never Dr Lotus Never Dr Meant chiloe daring and chance does he have any real doctors taking the test this year but I can see it's just a bunch of doctors wasting everyone's time maybe you should being means you've just given me the greatest gift of all we what gift the gift of a good story listen to change the world in the industry of doctors well well well looky here if it isn't this is a very slow clap yeah I've never seen a clip this slow does he know how to clap. Can't you see my slow win or should I say never doctor Isabella Wella umbrellas stitches on a banana means you got what it takes of studying and practicing my stitches on bananas it's finally time for our big chance I think I was born to be a doctor I think I am the wait what would you have done if we hadn't told you this great story I dunno I guess gossip about you two all about her space and see upping chance the annual public tests that people take to become doctors as you all know each future doctor will take their test one at a time themselves Lori I love stories years of course who doesn't love a good story I feel very happy with this gift Liam I she's GonNa have to take a big chance here's the author to introduce it hi my name's Bela I'm here becoming doctors don't let them get to you you deserve this chance as much as anyone you just have to believe in yourself ladies and Shit they've been married my story it is called Dake could be a real doctor like me I speak for all of us when I say we can't wait to become doctors people need to start listening to us we have knowledge to it will be very clear when the test is over Al's doctors mixture you've signed in and we will announce who's them all right what's anyone can get lucky this isn't over yet not Dr Rubin Way to go Isabella leaving your qualified to do is pass out bandaids on the street basic you only get one chance to be a doctor and you will never be a doctor tests and see wait a minute this can't be amazing is Bella Ruben you lost no points because you no I am not a loser pass I thing in the World No biggie reminder this test is a biggie on your mark get set okay first question how much does the Human Zabala here is your question a kid is hurt their arm it is not boost it hurts the child a lot if you touch it if she moves it or if any weight touches it what should you're Phillip Michelle mcgann Tokyo tastes who what are you doing here Dr Phillip Michelle Nicolini says decided to swing by the big it yes me surprise I've been watching you this whole time from the other side of the two way mirror and now I'm going to grade this Jack Tayo you can have a seat right here on this operating table I'm just going to check your arm by moving it around does it hurt when I do this how about this you been everyone who is not as clear the room and find US stands Isabella you sit here at this tiny desk in the middle of it's an enormous operating room Abella Goddess crush I the PPO TA OT HP or the portion of the net the Skeleton Way Oh that's easy it's a wage I thought I knew this doctor Julius has gotten into my head what if I don't pass what if I'm a loser any of the human body take your Mark Okay Zabala you got this nothing to be nervous about it's just your dream the thing that you one more than any doc I think something's wrong with my arm let's see I'm looking at your MRI scan and I'm seeing a lot of bumps and things that shouldn't be there great time to relax I'll just sit here alone in this big empty room full of medical equipment and how does it hurt when I pressed right here and is this Anglo uncomfortable and how's this when it's time to announce who are first test taker of day will be first step for the big chance is Isabella and once he's awake we'll know whether or not the surgery was a success we just

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#122 Henrik Gimle Holm: Politikken under Norrne tider DEL 1

Liberaleren Podcast

25:45 min | 6 months ago

#122 Henrik Gimle Holm: Politikken under Norrne tider DEL 1

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Kelley Brooke: Reimaging Golf Amid Coronavirus

WSJ Secrets of Wealthy Women

25:24 min | 8 months ago

Kelley Brooke: Reimaging Golf Amid Coronavirus

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She spent over thirty years in the industry she was named the two thousand eighteen. Lpga golf professional of the year then is the director of golf at the bethpage. Golf Course in New York Kelly's episode was a listener favorite for that reason because so much in sports has changed since we last spoke. We want us to check in with Kelly about how she's adapting her game amid Kobe. Nineteen welcome Kelly. Thanks so much for taking the time. Thanks for having me for. This is great our pleasure I how are you doing? Great healthy you know it's like everyone Spending a little too much time eating and drinking. But you know that's the way it goes. If that's the worst thing that comes out of this for me I'll be in good shape. It's great before the coronavirus fully closed down golf courses on Long Island on April tenth. How did you adapt the Bethpage? Course to accommodate the need for social distancing well like all other courses. We took precautions. Obviously we Marked the floors that everyone had to stay Six ten feet apart. We only allowed so many people on the pro shop. At a time. The Ti- times are spread out every other SOS every fifteen minutes versus every seven. Eight minutes. Cartwheeling loud one person per cart. The cart sanitized after each use. And basically just tried to maintain social distancing. We also we made where you can touch the pen. We put foam in the holes. Your Balden go down into the hole so you touch the whole took the breaks out of the sand traps that kind of thing. How are you coping financially and emotionally with all this? I mean emotionally. It's it's been hard you know. It hasn't been so hard for me in the sense that you know. I'm the owner. I'm GONNA always probably survive. Although you funds are definitely low at this point But you know it's it's hard emotionally to put All of your employees out of work for this period of time. I don't think anybody knew. This is GonNa last this long amount of time. We thought it was going to be a month. Maybe two months and we're seeing that this is a much bigger problem than anyone ever anticipated Thankfully the government did step in I didn't get P P P funds the first round second round. I got some people be fun. So we're starting we just got it this week. So we're starting to bring employees back and creating projects for them to do and Just trying to keep everyone busy. We you take back to the moment that you found out you just got relief. Money some of that stimulus money. Well it was a relief. I felt so blessed that I was able to get it because so many people. I'm one of the only people that I know of. That runs business that they got it so and it was just throw in for me because my main concern always is employee ease and because we're seasonal and It was killing me that employers were staying at home and it wasn't like they're going to build make this money up because we are seasonal and so it was just such a relief that I could look at them and say you're coming back to work so. The task is causing many entrepreneurs to be even more innovative than they usually are. How are you adapting Your Business? Well in the beginning of March I would say we saw that. This was coming. I think as any entrepreneur must do in life and business and As you have to anticipate the future so we really started examining what could happen for example? We have junior golf program minutes. A subscription type of a program where the kids pay X. amount of dollars every month and they come to the chorus. They have fitness classes. We take them on the course we have instruction we saw potentially The social distancing was going to stop program so we rushed and we put everything online so we use zoom like everyone else's to run fitness classes three times a week with our sports. Dr One of my pros and I film every week The instruction and we give them skills we give them drills so basically they're following our program just doing it at home it's neat in addition to running the bethpage course. You're also often on tour as a pro golfer any sense when the LPGA and PGA towards may start up again especially given the fact that some states are reopening. It's unfortunate because you know I'm I'm a little older. I'm fifty two just turned fifty two. I don't WanNA age myself too. High into the fifties but Most of the senior tournaments because they're only handful or are being canceled For this year even the senior. Us Open canceled the LPGA Regular tour where it's looking like. It's probably going to start mid July end of July same thing with the PGA tour. There have been rumors that golf tournaments might start up without spectators. How is that going to affect athletes and sponsorships? I don't know how many people attend an average golf tournament for the PJ PJ but really. That's not where the money is. The money is in the TV sponsorships. So I don't think having spectators there learning going to affect it one way or the other to be honest with you. It might even improve a ratings because everyone's at home. No one can leave the house so you know the viewership might go up and as a result stock will be a lot more happy as golf courses including your own start to reopen. What do you think the Game GonNa look like and do you think people are going to be able to afford to play a round of golf given the tough economy? I'm very fortunate. I survived the two thousand and eight recession surviving. This because golf is really resilient and it's something that people love to do and relatively inexpensive. I mean I don't know many activities where you can go spend four or five hours for forty or fifty dollars so it's really kind of recession proof for me as a business but for players. It's really a wonderful sport that you don't have to play with another player it's It's by nature their social distancing. You know people don't hit the ball in the same spot You know I know for quite a while. We're going to have to eliminate one person golf cart. But that's not a big deal. We have more than enough in our fleet. I don't see the Gulf is going to change a whole heck of a lot if anything. I think. Golf is going to get more popular. You know you're not going to go to concerts for a while. You're not going to go to basketball games. Football Games Baseball Games. So people are GonNa be flocking to the golf course just to get out of the house and do some sort of physical activity so I think it's going to help golf. What else has this whole experience taught you about entrepreneurship? I mean you know. The thing is that as an entrepreneur. You have to always have a plan in mind. You have to Pivot you think you're going you know on one course. For example you know we had last year the PGA Championship at Bethpage. So we were closed for two months and we were so looking forward to this year because we felt that there was going to be a big rebound because we had a major there and we were going to You know take in some revenue this year and make up for last year and unfortunately our biggest quarter is the second quarter and we're into that right now and we're making literally no money so You have to put it. You have to figure out alternate streams for revenue. You've got to once people come back. We need to figure out a way to maximize every dollar to upsell to try to make this up in some way which is not such an easy feat because we are seasonal is part of your personal starting an online channel as well. You know I had this idea in November The LBJ was found seventy years ago and so naturally the original thirteen founders have been passing away we have to left and I said this is such a shame because women's golf is going to die if we don't get some of these ladies on camera interview them so it was a passion project which now is turned into a full fledged business model where I went to Nancy. Lopez Amy Alcott Michelle. Mcgann a handful. The ladies and I said. Would you all like to start a women's streaming golf channel with me but since this this pandemic happened I realized that it. It's really a good idea because there's not enough content out there. I don't know about you but I've watched every single thing on Netflix and Hulu and HBO. And there's just not enough content out there. And I I understand now that the demand for at least short form content is there so I think this idea is really going to take off. we hope to launch the middle of July. And we're excited about it. We're GONNA take a quick break but when we come back. Kelly's going to share what she learned from the psychology of Golf. And what it's like to be a woman in the game her encore episode when we come back when the world is at a standstill. Facts can move us. Forward facts help us make decisions and bring us together. Even were apart. The Wall Street Journal has the facts in these uncertain times. Get the latest on the corona virus outbreak with free coverage of the crisis and its impact on the economy politics culture and daily life. Find the clarity. You need with America's most trusted new source visit wsj.com and stay informed so Kelly when you were around thirteen. A you're on an all boys soccer team and you had a formative experience during some of the game. So can you tell us about that? Absolutely well I grew up playing sports with the boys in the yard. I played football baseball basketball the whole bit but I was on the boys travel all star team and I was the leading goal coincidentally and there was A game very important game. I had scored a couple of goals and the the goalie was getting a little tired of me. I was getting under his skin. And I don't know if you've ever watched soccer but you challenge the goalie some standing in front of the goalie about I don't know four or five feet away and staring him down. He looked at me in the eyes and he dropped. That ball. Punted it right into my face at knocked me backwards about six ten feet. My feet were off the ground and I was in a complete days. My eyes are watering. I got up and my nose is bleeding everywhere. You've broken my nose and so I just shrugged it off and I play the rest of the game scored a couple more goals and I felt like that was a lesson in life for me in general and that's kind of how I've lived my business life where You know gotten kicked in the face. I've gotten punched. I've gotten you know kicked in the gut and you just have to get yourself back up. Brush it off and move on with the game of business in the game of life. Did that kid got trouble now. It's part of the game and I was playing with the boys so I deserved it. And I was being a little bit of noxious and you know and I was challenging him. He treated me like any other boy. You know he treated me like I was just one of the gang and I was competitor. And that's important for life to know that you know you're not going to be treated differently as a woman. We all want quality but you have to learn how to shake it off when you're treated like one of the guys are you saying though. We should put up with the level of rudeness to get that equality. I don't know if it's rudeness. You know I think a quality I I think it's competitiveness. I don't see business as rude. You know male behavior women to behavior. I see this competitiveness and you know you have to if you WANNA play in this game you're going to have to take it like like every other man takes it. Had you know you WANNA be a Pro Golfer? Well my mom and dad put a putter in my crib when I was born so I don't think that I had any choice. I was going to be a pro golfer. My mom was city champion. She was a great athlete. Great Tennis player Great Golfer. My Dad was an entrepreneur. So I got that Entrepreneurial competitive side from him and basically you know I was I grew up a golf course and I play golf every single day and it was not. It was a choice clearly but my dad said to me at a young age. Listen you know. Your friends are getting jobs at McDonalds. There working at the mall. You can do that also if you want. But how about this? You're going to get a scholarship later in life. I'M GONNA pay you to go practice. I don't know if I ever actually saw the It wasn't like I got punched in and out but my job growing up was to get out of bed and go practice while everyone else was working and I got an allowance for it and you know it all paid off in the end because I got a college scholarship for golf. How did he know you were going to be good at it? He you know you can tell at an early age of a child is going to be good at golf and I clearly was good. I mean I was beating the boys. I was beating the girls. I was beating everyone. I mean I played my mom in our club championship and the Women's Club Championship when I was twelve or thirteen and I beat her and she was the reigning champion for many years. So we knew you know at an early age that I was going to be good. I played in tournaments from the time I was six or seven on and I was finishing in the top ten and so it it was Something that we knew I was always going to do so. Can you elaborate a little bit more on what it's like to be a woman in such a male dominated sport well you know? I'm lucky because I'm kind of guys girl. So what do you mean by that? Is You know I've always been good at sports. So I learned so much from sports. I learned competitiveness Sportsmanship I learned integrity but I also learned because I played with guys how to be around guys so basically you know I I mean I hate to say this but sometimes I Swear too much. I smoke cigars on the golf course. I drink bourbon afterwards. So I'm kind of a guys girl and And so I kind of lived in their world. It's a challenge though because you know I wanna be feminine at the same time and I don't want to be seen as one of guys all the time so it is a fine balance between Being one of the guys and still maintaining your femininity at the same time. How do you strike that balance with the guys? I think that they respect me. You Know I. I've gained a lot of respect in the last thirty years in the business world because I did enter the male dominated area when I came to New York City from Iowa in Nineteen ninety-two It was There was a company called American Golf. They were running all the golf courses in New York City It was a publicly traded company. I can't remember Salomon brothers someone was Operating it and basically it was all men. There were no women to be seen in in that. Were running the golf courses and I got here and I saw that there were so many holes and gaps. I came from Iowa Gulf was mid West. Golf is very big. There was no junior golf in New York City. No women's golf there was no Even mention of of Golf Psychology. There were all these holes and I said to myself boy. This is such a shame when in the biggest city in the country and there is no organized golf so my goal was to fill those gaps and as I fill those gaps. I started to get a little bit more respect. Although they fought me every step of the way because they didn't want kids and women on the golf course they wanted full pain men on the golf course and you know it was an uphill battle. There were many obstacles that I had overcome. But I've found the right team to help me overcome those obstacles and you know at the end of the day I gained a lot of respect and I think that's the key in the business world. Is You have to have their respect. You can't you have to know what you're doing. You have to talk the talk. You have to walk the walk but at the end of the day. You really need to know your stuff. So how did you deal with those guys who are like women should not be on this courts? Well you know what I went about it. Kind of subtly so the The sports writer in the staten island for the staten island. Advance friend did me. And we became very very close and I wanted so badly to to start this not for profit junior golf club and American golf and in different organizations the men's group they were really fighting me on it so I put together a team like a board of directors and I found and I had the media on my side. Which was Tom Flanagan? I had The President of the Women's Club there I had An attorney that played golf. I had a very high powered Male Golfer bought into my vision and as it team we were able to get around any barriers that they were putting me Kelly Brook in front of D-. You feel like the golf industry has changed for women over the years. Oh it's definitely changed the. Pg of America has something like forty thousand members. I would say ninety. Nine percent of them are male the LPGA is a thousand members all female. There's one female member Named Suzy Whaley. She became the first ever president of the PJ of America so this one woman overseas almost thirty nine thousand men. So the has definitely changed. And I'm seeing it's changed Just across the board I mean I am in a unique position where I'm the director golf and the head professional for a championship. Golf course I don't know any other women in the world that hold my position so it's been quite a journey for me and I've seen a lot of change. I think we have a long way to go. I think that women still feel and this is my plight right now in my life is to educate women that they can get to where they want to be that they don't have to be the junior golf director or the women's Day director for the rest of their lives. They can actually be the head pro at their golf. Course they can Have World Famous Golf Schools? They can run their own facilities if they want to. But women in the golf industry have been made to feel like second-class citizens for so long that they don't even realize that those opportunities are out there so my objective for the next couple years is to educate my fellow female golf professionals that they can have what I have. A lot of people want. Women set goals but big goal. Sometimes but they don't achieve them. So what's the secret of actually achieving the goals you set? I think the secret is that you have to check in with your goals on a daily basis. Your short term goals. That are getting you to your long term goal. I would put that posted that card on my my mirror inside a look at it every day and I would have to check in with myself and Sarah did you chief any short-term goals today that you know we're going to get you to your long term goal and if you want it enough you're going to get business manages. The bethpage course winches one of the top public courses in the US. How did he beat out the other competitors for this contract well you know? I've always been in golf for the right reasons. I enjoyed it and I wanted to spread the word and so I think that I ended up beat the PGA tour. I beat some major Golf Management Companies and. I think I did it because of all of my philanthropic work that I did grow in you know in my say growing up and I was only twenty one when I came here so I really did. Grow up here I you know I I was always in it for the right reasons and I feel that I was recognized for that You know in all of the the properties that I've won and operated. It's not all about the bottom line in life. It's about who you helping. And if you're in things for the right reason and you're helping people then you'll always be rewarded. So what can women learn from the psychology of Golf? Oh Gosh I'll tell you I'll tell you what they can learn so I joined the LPGA in nineteen ninety two ninety three something like that and the first thing we we're taught as all PJ golf instructors is to understand people's learning styles because there are no bad students only bad teacher. So I could give you A. I could give a chipping lesson to five to four different people. Let's say and I can give it four different ways based on your learning style so I'll interview you at the beginning. I'll figure out. Are you left brain right brain? Because a left brain person's very detail oriented. They're very auditory. They're very sequential and They're very objective. I'm a right brain array. Brain person is very creative. Very big picture can't get bogged down in details vary visual and so when I learned that other people have learning styles I reflected upon myself and in Business. I am a better business person because I understand who I am. I am very right sided And I think that that's a very important thing for women to figure out. Are they the left brain personnel there? The right brain and you you tailor your leadership style and your business style to what you are. I know that I can't get bogged down in details. I'm not auditory at all the fact that you didn't give me any questions ahead of time really is freaking me out because I need to prepare visually because I'm not auditory So I will Sit in a meeting and I will need a powerpoint. I need to see things or when I give a presentation. I can't give it auditory. I need to do it through a powerpoint I prefer to communicate through text or email versus phone calls because I know that that's my learnings on how I function best. I also know that I'm not a detail person of big picture person so I hire people that are detail left brain people and so that I can focus on the big picture and I can focus on growth or whatever you know. New Programs were developing so for women. I think it's Or people in general. It's really important that you understand how your brain works and you Tailor Your Business Management Style to how you learn best. Do you say a Mantra Yourself? Like I'm GonNa win this or when you're out there well you know what I got so much into the mental side of golf in the last year and a half and I use it as a metaphor for life. I I have this opti brain that I put on my head and I put on my students heads and we can measure where the The brain waves are stimulated in your head. And this is what I'm talking about with millennials. Again they love the stuff they eat this up if I say to them can I get inside your head and I'm like yeah sure and I put this on and so i. I've taught my students for two years. How to quiet the brain and live in the subconscious and live in this zen place and so I decided to try it out for myself. So my advice to myself. As if I were teaching someone would be next week when I get there. I'm going to just try to live in the moment. Take each shot as it comes tra- not to overthinking stimulate my prefrontal CORTEX and live in my subconscious. We all know the world is changing every day. Since we spoke with her two weeks ago Kelly found out that she's allowed to partially reopen bethpage and she's adapting like we all our listeners. Let us know your secret feeling resilient during this pandemic texter call our hotline at three one. Four two hundred five nine four seven. We might use your comment on an upcoming show. If you'd like to hear more secrets of wealthy women you can find us on apple spotify Google podcasts or your favorite audio provider. If you like US subscribe share on social media and give us a review. This episode was originally produced by tiny bustos. Today's version was produced by train. 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NGOPI #27 - Membentuk Akidah Anak (Ustadz Dr. Sujian Suretno, S.Th.I., M.M.)

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NGOPI #27 - Membentuk Akidah Anak (Ustadz Dr. Sujian Suretno, S.Th.I., M.M.)

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Ep 10 Struggles of Long Distance Relationship

Life, Honey & Missy

51:50 min | 4 months ago

Ep 10 Struggles of Long Distance Relationship

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TALKSHOW - Dakwah Sendiri-Sendiri dan Dakwah Bersama (YALIFA)

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TALKSHOW - Dakwah Sendiri-Sendiri dan Dakwah Bersama (YALIFA)

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NGOPI #15 - Perwalian dan Mahar dalam Pernikahan

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NGOPI #15 - Perwalian dan Mahar dalam Pernikahan

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E9: Crossover Hits

Novel Gazing Podcast

57:36 min | 9 months ago

E9: Crossover Hits

"Today show sponsored by the Reading Women podcast. Reading women is a podcast that exists to promote books by or about women from bestselling author. India rights is discover your next favorite read fallen on with the team as they celebrate. Incredible women from around the world with Emphasis Book Recommendations Index Discussions and author interviews in majoring. Hendri's Lachey and ruth them as they discussed nonfiction voter Asian American Pacific Islander Heritage mm-hmm including Kathy Pack hongs Mina feelings and maxine home Kingston's woman warrior. You listen to reading women on their website. Which is reading women podcast adults? Come off from wherever you get your podcasts. Hi I'm Mary. Kay and together. We are novel gazing the podcast that talks literary fiction and we're recording today show on April twenty eighth so again if anything juicy happens between now and then we're not ignoring it. It just hasn't happened to us yet and on today's show we're discussing current affairs as usual and news as usual from the literary fiction world. And we're going to talk about crossover genres as well as our current reads. It has also come to my attention that a few episodes ago on the episode of literary fiction versus Genre Fiction. I came in pretty hot and came off pretty elitist about literary fiction It also seems like I clarify enough that my opinion is of course super subjective and just because I prefer one over another does not make it better or worse so I wanted to ensure that To do that here at the top of the episode and as a gesture of goodwill and hopefully to kind of undo that error this episodes topic will be crossover hits so to speak meaning. We're going to name. Some of our favorite literary genres literary genre are also other genres like. Why a romances her. And what else leave. I think we throw in a couple of Brandon's right. Just keep everyone on their toes. Yup elect that okay but before we get into that. Let's hear from one of our sponsors. This episode is sponsored by Flatiron. Books publisher of the Paris hours by Alex which one day in the city of light one night in search of Las Tiene Paris between the wars teens with artists writers musicians a glittering crucible of use but amidst the DASA and creativity of the city's most famous citizens full regular people reach searching for something they've lost told over the course of a single day in nineteen twenty seven. The parasol takes full ordinary. People who stories when told together are extraordinarily is the glorious city inhabits and that's the Paris House by Alex George. Alright so let's open. It was some news and current affairs. And I think defense when we wanted to talk about was An article on how authors find the characters. Speak and this is when you came across right Mary. Kay Yes so I found this one actually this morning and I think book right posted it independently of me finding it as well. So that makes that makes me feel good. That I have good taste is probably pretty solid But I thought it was interesting because The study from the Guardian says that sixty three percent of authors say they hear their characters speak while riding with sixty one percent reporting characters were capable of acting independently which and that's a quote directly from the From the article So I as a writer Find it that the characters will act independently. Yeah I that From being on the show I mean I definitely do here. My characters voices in my head and I'm wondering if because I'm right Mostly historical or non historical non fiction or nonfiction. It's not historical like their actual people. So I went in part of with this article says to is like. You're basically if you're if you're creating a character you're you're just you're creating the persona of a person that lives in your head which is. Pretty Normal Lake. I mean I don't know about you but I'll I'll put on an outfit and here my mother's voice in my head being like you need to put some color on your just here. I predict her reactions. And I think if you are if you have a really in depth character which hopefully you do You should be able to to kind of hear their reactions as well. But that just seems like odd. They're independent yeah. It's quite traditional I did you hear in creative. Writing Teaching in office talking about their stuff that they do have these characters meeting independently. I know the big one for me with the research. Doing his people are any blatant and things like that. Who Say oh they are almost like telling the story on behalf of the characters and they really are just kind of like a conduit for it. Yeah I totally buy that. And I know that on my part like my first book is about America's first female serial killer so in her voice came into my head. That was pretty disturbing for me off. A lot of the book is written from the perspective of other characters because that first of all is just like more authentic. She didn't have much of a voice in that in that time period but also because it a depending on your characters right like you don't want them in your head. I can imagine note with serial killers. Ooh She was. Yeah Act yeah and then just to kind of pack on like her leg not back on. Blake support what I was trying to say. One of the quotes from this article says that Internal Dialogue or inner speech is a phenomenon that people experience in many different ways with some people including the voices of people they know as part of their verbal thinking and I think that part of that is How impressionable you are. Or maybe even a part of empathy. I'm not I don't know the reasons why that's just like what the article say that. That's just me adding and then The article goes on to say whether or not. We're always aware that most of us are trying to anticipate what other people are going to say and do and in everyday interactions and for some of these writers. It might be the case that after a while their character start to feel independent because the writers develop the same kinds of personality models. They develop for real people and these were generating the same kinds of predictions. So that makes it sound a little bit less like a disorder and a little more of like you did your due diligence with creating these characters but I just thought that that was. The article is super interesting. Because I read the title and I was like. Oh my gosh. That's horrifying then. I read it and I was like no. This is re regular like I have this all the time so I don't know it's it's interesting because it's kind of trying to understand creativity and innovative particular kind of books in almost find the patterns that make these stories and these narratives happen But I think as well as about Putin's actually and that we are human we understand our conversation words we look for Hello and then you know you reply with. Oh Great Hello how are you? I'm fine thank you? We feel in. We Look City the call and response the thing that finishes off the thing that has been given us so in some senses. I think it's almost filling in those patterns just book by yourself because there's no one else hair when you riot it's like you've got to say the dock and angrily type it the laptop Zone and Yeah well When you said that it made me think of like so you know. I don't know if this has happened to but this happened to me a lot in like middle or high school where as soon as I left a conversation I would think of the perfect thing to say about worth and then it's the worst and then I was like well. That is not going to happen to me again so I would like play the conversation in my head so that next time. I will be ready and I did that. There were still do it but I was an only child so I mean I spent a lot of time with my own imagination. The worst part is when you get the perfect response about six months after the yes. I finally know what to say to this situation. Yeah or you realize like five years later that this person you had a crush on was actually hitting on. You just didn't know it at the time and this stupid like Brazil right you workshop that moment in your head and play it out and sometimes I think that that's how people in general developed the persona that they want to display to the world. You're kind of creating that character like this is how I wanna come across but yourself by buying ages interesting. Yeah sorry we're going on a slight tangent here so just forgive for a moment but What really stuck with me from what you've just said that is. I remember elected I went to and the guy so basically said how many us as in why are you know as a jeep a half? How many use a U A U too? So his point was how many different versions of yourself? Do you present the world on. How many different versions of? I don't know if your name is like Sarah Jones. How many different sirens does the well now? And it's all about. I T that you present and you show the versions of yourself to to someone I think. Oh totally I agree with that and we we kind of talked about that on our episode about literary nonfiction. Yeah so but I think I mean not only. I might have been checked. I can't remember now who said The the dullest actual person is more interesting than the most interesting character. So to think that you're writing about or yourself or you know creating a character. It's still only a fraction of what you would know of another person so we need to do what we can. I mean probably or or we'll just end up like thinking about it took about six months later we will have to do a follow up and just go. We figured it right. That's how long we need to workshop the conversation so I'm go and talk about your Your find of news all right. Yeah so The Comedy Women in Print Prize. Twenty twenty long list is out and this is funny. Women writing funny things. And it's a brilliant longlist. It features published an unpublished comic fiction. Graphic novels by women writers and I will include the link in the show notes courts deemed the of the long list for me were Queenie by Countess Kathy Williams. Which is it's one of those books that go on labeled as as a fleabag similar title which Kinda thanked love it. Yeah I mean I. I was a bit in Mississippi. Lee Back Really. Hit home for me so I kind of won't okay. These books to be understood in their own right but but Queenie's brilliant So I think post breakup life in London Took mental health to real world on sexual rights movements me tailgate. And he's really funny and small so it has a similar content. Yeah I think it's just young women. Living Messy honest lives. Well I can write solidarity of US Army many sensation. That's not many ways for people to understand not without popping the fleabag label that. Yeah and I think also people who publicize are like. Here's another popular thing. Where if you liked it. You'll probably like this well. Yeah it's it's the shorthand so go for Queen I think is is brilliant but has no. I've recommended Comex on head before because I think I really x-men ru intelligently fiction and Valiente valid form true fiction and everyone writes So I'M GONNA pick sensible footwear a girl's guide which is a graphic goto lesbian queer history between nineteen fifty twenty twenty by Kate. Charlesworth so good. It's a mammoth task to try and encapsulate that amount of history in Helmick and she does so brilliantly and so beautifully and so Kindly I think I really want more kindness in The stuff I read you know like where people realize that the mistakes they make mistakes all made I'll just part of being human innocence. So yeah since footwear. I recommend it so I love this title. It I I. I have a question because I have not read this but definitely want to and I'm just trying to into manage my expectations. I suppose Does it how. How much does the footwear play into it? Like an ethnography of shoes nine. It's like It's a pun in some senses. That the playing on. I don't know if the Expression translates into over America. But there's an idea that if you will comfy shoes You had a particular sexuality so I think he's playing on that and messing around with that and just saying actually. This is the history of the people that stand behind such a try and inappropriate expression and he has the story of what they had so it took on its UK history to Sakarov searches on things like the Section twenty-eight thing which hit my education I was never taught about Lesbian Queer history in any sense whatsoever because it was Illegal so it's remarkable to think how far we've come and yet how far we still have to go in many senses and yes yeah. Kate Chelsea just kind of encompasses all about in such a strong powerful brilliant and incredibly funny manner that. It's a book that I would give to you in Hopi. Okay I mean that does not deter me from wanting to read it even a little. I was just trying to conceptualize it in my head. Also I think that does transfer but it might that That phrase dose transfer but it might be a little bit less on the nose here because I was like I get that. It's a joke like a kind of I mean in this context but yeah thank you for clarifying for we. Also seventy years is such a long time. It's amazing amazing. Yeah you kind of think. Wow you've you've done this and even that even if you done it poorly to still do. It is a massive achievement in its own right but to deliver a book that is as good as their s and as truthful and as beautiful as this it. It's a great thing I'm excited for it excellent So are those to the ones that you hope when yeah I go but I think anything on the long list Israeli right. That's what that by some brilliant women writers and you know anywhere on there. You would not go wrong. We will as I say. Include the length. But we'll also give you the league t the twitter you can follow them and gain some more background information on the tiles and the rice and hopefully Gives a bit more open? Open world excited for that. Cool Fabio Alright. Shall we pull from it from us? Bonuses Oh yes up today show sponsored by Libro. Fm Lebron Feminazi. Pensions audiobooks directly from your favorite local indie bookstore at the same price as audible firmly membership. You can pick from over a hundred and fifty thousand audiobooks including New York Times bestsellers and some of the hottest new audiobook releases like such a fun age by Kylie read untamed by Glenn. Doyle wow no thank you. By Samantha Abbey and the Glass Hotel by Emily Sin John Mandell listeners of navel-gazing I says can get three of audio but membership for the price of one month that's Lieber Dot. Fm and then the code be our three. That's a capital b. a capital and then the number three to get three months of audiobooks for the price of one. So let's talk about some crossover hits It came to my attention. Was listing my favorite. Why books to talk to Louise about that. Well they're not why and that might be the reason why I don't mean like. I have no informed opinion about this because I didn't really understand what qualified a book as being part of that genre. So Lewis will you please define what a young adult genre book is all right. Yeah I felt really bad because I was just kind of going out all of that. Snow Young show glad you did because I mean how else would I learn well? Nobody told me so to fasting as that young out isn't a genre. It's a collection of books that came around essentially in a post World War. Two context if you think that teenagers clearly existed before this but they weren't ever quite understood in this way that we understood them after the war and a lot of this comes from the EU radicalism of Post World War Two publishing especially for Children Anfield. People were thinking that children were the people that are going to get them out of these problems. There were two old walls. Everything had gone wrong. the weld had been V. shaped and vastly imparted over several years Children it's it's a hackneyed phrase but children were the future The books that they were given by the adults that and we've only publishing and they were particularly intended to be a radical to move them towards a place where they could make the choices and to not repeat that which had come before. So then coming into the seventies and the eighties when all those kids who'd grown up in the postwar contacts who'd read those books we'd had things like Elvis rock and roll the Beatles the idea of a youth culture being really formed and then in the eighties. These people were kind of adults working in publishing and making the next generation step so to speak in able to find a young adult Kaman and this is where most of the big big initial book starts make themselves nine people at Robert Columbia. Judy blume So late eighties nineties Paula ago. People like that. These are stories that were concerned with young adult characters. Doing young adult things so not necessarily like a a child or an adult. It's not space in between right. Okay see listeners. Y'All are going to see real quick that I didn't know that the books that I listed are none of them qualify for that definition also I just referred to it as a genre and you real quick to be like no so yeah. Thank you for that. That's a common thing though. People can read young adults genre and say okay. It is Asia owner of books. And it's like well no it's no it's it's a type of fiction that can be represented in science fiction Historical any type of joyner can be considered as A. YOU'LL NEDAL book providing it has these kind of loose criteria of the usually a juvenile central character that he dealing with teenage you'll not concerns and they are recognizably different from children on from adults that are saying that messy in between right right so like the ones that I listed y'all were to kill a mocking bird. Not Why because she's a child in. It takes place in the thirties so immediately out. No for that sense In you know in one sense you could say that Karabakh Bird is young adult novel. But it's not because it's written from the adult perspective got so she looks back onto her childhood and reflects upon that so the young adult novel it clearly existed in some sense before we started referring to it. As the you know yes okay but I'm okay with Toco MOCKINGBIRD. It's because SCAR. Hamon reading of it so she is an adult she's reflecting and retelling the story and there is a really interesting article on book. Ride that will pop into the link as well into the links as well that talks specifically about whether to kill a mockingbird can be young and I think you how silk yeah I think asset and you'll know resonance for sure so I can see why you pull it in both technically. I would probably step back from saying it is a young adult novel because I I I just think it is okay I'll buy that. I have no frame of reference so it can be a good book and still not fit into that category. I forgot about Judy. Blume JACOB LAMB. God Love Judy Blume. She is legendary even life in many of my generation particularly from British school days. We were very confused with how the sandwich towels in the period thing worked night they will sanitary belts and we were like what is the what. How does that work right? It is man just for so long. They just acknowledge that that was a problem that needed a saw. A thing like Judy. Blume is revolutionary in Hawaii featuring the sort of thing in her books like the Victorians or something children just kind of magically shifted from about six years old to about nineteen and getting married and there was no in between right. You were a child and then you're a mom did not sit right pretty much. Look forward to that guy right right Okay so the others. I'm just GONNA go ahead and get these out of the way that's all right home and these are are accurately. Why a Phantom Tollbooth Nope? Mets child's fantasy all roll doll. I put an uncle remus but I don't think those are either. I think those are a totally different amazing problematic oral history and then I put in the wizard of is in. That's also not that's child child children's and fantasy right. Yeah so resell that led me to maybe the the conclusion that maybe I just did not have a young adulthood lake. It seems like I have no authority at all because I wasn't even aware of what why entailed I think in some sense we can solve. Say that this is also to read as he might have had But the readers that might have had a similar journey and that it's never too late to star reading these books. Because you have you know I am still working out the world massively and I'm like injured and to These books still have an immense cultural resonance and if you a one thing places to star we can provide those on my picks would be. I capture the castle by Dodie Smith who was the author of the Dalmatians and I capture the castle. It's possibly the most perfect young adult novel. You might read in some senses in that. It has an eccentric family. She the opening line is I write this sitting in the kitchen sink at it so beautifully an so vividly romantic an unreal. Strange that if you happen being towards these books before and if you're not sure where to begin then I capture the castle by Dodie. Smith is a perfect place to stop. Okay noted added to list. Let's read it. I would be very happy. Just everyone just reads. I capture the castle flight. The NEXT SIX WEEKS. I'll make my day okay. Great all right look club. I was thinking of as well was Some of their oath is the are Brillian and give you crazy. Wild big stories that kind of find the the edge of the universe and find the last city in it and push it open for you and say you can be part of this world so there the book that I would recommend again as as doing something like this as a book called life and exploded diagram and his by mail P who's now passed away but the books he wrote before this were stoning. They are almost own unclassifiable yet. Stay tell you everything about the world and what you can be within it and sir life exploded. Diagram is at one sense. It's loose story but one sense it's a history lesson and it's so strange and so big. It's it's it's a brilliant piece of writing. Sounds good integrate title? Yeah it's it's really great Do you think all right so I wanted to pick a couple of examples of authors from across the time period so coppola like a historical war and I wanted to pick someone really recent and present an is an article Juno Dawson who is a UK. You'll have writer a fierce talent. And she shifts across genre. She's done stuff Like a contemporary point. Horror type vied through to Mago and me which is a book about a relationship between a girl and her grandmother and her finding I actually. What's going on with her grandmother and why she is what she is And Junior Dawson is so skilled at hopping between these stories and yet telling the truth about teenage life in. It is complicated. But you are not alone in experiencing this you are with friends with people and the choices that you make are totally valid and you have the right to make them. She has a lovely I Youthful Life God Bossa sale agent youthful life. So if you can cut with like a grammy telling you this I really recommend. Yeah Junior Dawson's my final also big. Pick any of her work. But particularly I think Margaret Mead is one of the best. Okay I thought of one her. Okay so When I was why did. An AmeriCorps program tutoring kids who had mental illness and What that meant for me. I have a point until all this. I promise What that meant for me is like the kids who are like fourteen to eighteen. So young adults Just didn't trust adults because they didn't have any who are reliable in their lives and so I was supposed to tutor them in literacy so I brought in the outsiders by Esi Hinton and I said it down on the table and and I just thought of another one too that I read with them and I was trying to get this one kid to read it. And he's not into it and another kid of the older ones came by and he goes. Oh the outsiders this book go hard it was so resonant you know with them because it is. It's it's has to do with gangs. I mean granted like this is in the fifty so they look different than they do now but it was just like that quick endorsement of like a an older young adult made the kid. I was trying to read with. Yes okay. Let's do it so I thought about that one and then on a similar note because I'm wondering like maybe I didn't have a young adulthood and that's why I don't identify with that John in the past haven't in the past But would you tell holes who I would probably say? It's open children's but then again that's really like it. 'cause I work in the in the in the industry and it's a really picky thing and I do think at some point you have to kind of all right. Who is this book talking to? And who is this book resonating with but yeah? I'd probably say your new Godot. It's it's kind of because okay so I allow it okay. I was thinking like a as as it was recalling it. I was like what I think. I read that with a thirteen year old. So I'm not sure don't count. Yeah I mean I read it on my own as well but I didn't remember it as well as when I was reading it with him because Kind of looking back on it. I could hit. That novel is so tight. It's just comes back in Same with the outsiders is just. It's they're both very well done. And I think that they're both quote unquote literary as we loosely defined it in zero two And and I'm not saying that the ones that you picked weren't of course I just haven't read those and of course I trust your judgment over especially over mind but yeah I have some have some holes in my knowledge of course Oh and I just wanted to tell. Y'All listeners that I probably need the read harder challenge a lot more than I thought and By the way I've been using this spreadsheet the amazing tears I made which will link to which is kind of a reading log but it also tells you like what where you've been reading at like if you've been reading mostly Female or male or nine authors like. It's just a really cool way of seeing what basically what your comfort zone is and There's another toggle that goes to the heart harder or challenge that when I started this spreadsheet I was like well. I'm going to do this to just to see how you know if I am reading as diversely as I thought and I have completed eight out of the twenty four of the challenges which is of never been good at eight times table. That's a third rate propulsion. So I'm a little behind but I also have it Intentionally yet gone in and been like Fannie read from this thing but I mean the list is really cool and it's Specific in a way that I wouldn't think to look for is out of Asthma Comfort on so the school Okay should we move into a different eight crossover hit sub-genre? I don't even know how to say what I'm trying to say. Help me. Are Roy MOMS? Let's go to Roy okay. All right so you WanNa start or you want me to. I can take site. Yeah on Ooh where do you begin with because I think send me it begins in Two words and Eva Ibbotson. Can she is an offer. Didn't really from what I've been told and I've talked with. People has never really fully translated over to the. Us market as much as she did here. She was a Jewish family was Jewish and they moved over to the UK in the forties due to Obviously if the rise of Nazism and she attended a very avant-garde school I actually went to university At later so it was really look connection and she grew up to write these incredibly rich stories of eccentric artistic creative unusual people falling in love with each other even though one of them both at the might not be aware of that happening and she has bones and learn. She has t houses eccentric aunts An every inch of is suffused with heritage her Jewish heritage and also her rich Eisen detail. There's a lawyer in one of them that I will never forget. And she talks about how you won't character scratches the air of adult and she scratches him just in the precise part where a large dog keeps his soul and I just thought so beautiful to find that moment and she say right. It's just behind the air a big dog that you can just go. This is it. This is where you are precisely perfectly perfectly made so yeah Okay so I have a question that I probably should have asked earlier. But how do you define if something is a romance? Oh I thank you just run onto Kellerman you can have the straight of mills and Boon type romance where you know very much where when you pick it up. What you're getting into right where it's packaged innocent and monarch perhaps part of a series popsicles. So it's an rules about it. I know the Mills Boone. Books are very specifically designed and structured and have certain elements of out that has been asserted Amana Interesting yes so you can have kind of straight Piero Raymond but equally romances. Such on the part of human life is an end. It's everywhere so I love it when you find in places that you do expect so for me. The other book that I wanted to shout for this moment was a book called a Little Love Song by Michelle mcgann. It's technically you had And you should look for the UK version if you count it was republished in the US in a slightly different form cold not a swan and has an extra weird plot element twist just doesn't work. So that one's a double crossover hit. Yeah I Yeah so little of Song. It's the book that I read when I need my heart making whole essentially you know when you are broke and depressed and everything is awful. I I pick this book so it's a good one for right now bob actually. Yeah so once he finished doing. I capture the castle. Everyone would do a little love song and then just hit me up on twitter and we can talk about it until the cows come hype very happy. Wonderful your sounds so wholesome compared to the ones that we shared. Embraces contrasts. Okay so one that I wanted or one author that I felt. I didn't put it on the list but of course I don't know how I missed her but an iceman who is like She's amazing Yeah I like like the correspondences between her and Henry Miller I think best but I loved Rosalind Miles. Is Gwen Aveer trilogy? When I was in high school because it really tells the story of King Arthur early you know the whole yeah mythology which was obsessed with at the time and It does so where love and lust and attraction is really the motivations behind Behind all of it and I liked as well that it Acknowledged that there was something going on with Lancelot for Arthur Which is I like revisionist wise pretty apparent but at the time it would have been like an Easter Egg. Very few new than you knew. But it wasn't so I loved those Also I love and rice. They she is. I mean. I'm Hara person but totally tell that she's a romance writer. Even though she is most famous for her vampire series and that beauty series We re another retelling of the fairy tale of sleeping beauty. Our guys kind of genius honestly gets pretty doubt so I've never really grown on. Rice also suggest a good place to start I think it depends because it definitely even when she's Writing Romance of the Limited Cross section that I've read it definitely still has the element of horror in it. That is not really your jam. Maybe no but if it is maybe yes or or just you know give it a go and then if this is what I do with books where I'm on the fence like I didn't really like it but I know would like I give it to them so that's always a way to do it and you can support your booksellers at this precarious economic time as well thinking about buying any of these books. Go ahead on and do it. Y'All we are pro. Gotcha so so. Yuga the last join that we wanted to talk about. What Torah right? Yeah I know this is your specialty area. So do you want to hear is all sure? So I kind of defined her as loosely as I define literary meaning that one of its objectives. One of the main objectives is to scare you. So that's just I mean that's a very loose and of course anyone can have his own opinion about it so it's fine but for like with the beauty series with Anne Rice. It's definitely has the romantic element and it is supposed to make you a little uncomfortable. I think Ari so maybe. You're not like outright scare you where you need to put the book in the freezer when you go to bed but it should like you know. Make you a little bit spooked afterwards. So The the scariest book that I've ever read. I definitely would consider a literature. It's called the true confessions of a justified sinner by James. Hogg and I thought that it was going to be super dry because I think I read it in century literature and he's Scottish seventeenth century. I'm thinking off. Yes I'm a thousand and one we're all about sharing yeah So he he He's in Scotland in the seventeen. Hundreds actually not a seventeenth century. My bad so this is during a calvin EST protestantism in which Predestination really big factor. But there's a group of Of that denomination that believes you can tell or rather Reverend can tell you whether or not you are predestined to go to heaven and if you are I mean do whatever you want right. Because you're in so which I don't think is the message of the book but I do think it is a caution against that mentality especially for that time period because this is not spoiling anything happens in the first. I twenty pages of this book one. One of the teenagers comes of age and he has like a party and then his the reverend his stepfather decides that he is in the elect which is what they call it and that day after the next day after the party when he is capable of making his own adult decisions. Satan shows up reading the Bible. It's like Oh my God they get so it's so scary but it also has a deeper purpose of lake. Consider what you believe in. I think that's one of the messages that try to get across And I it was not dry at all like I thought it was going to be just because of that time period is is a is a layer of the English language. That is just typically really hard for me to access but it was so compelling so that one. Excuse me and then Geek love by Katherine Dunn Is Amazing. It's about How to paraphrase this listeners? If y'all have read this book you're probably like how she going to do this because so much in it. Essentially a family of sideshow workers decides that they want to have children who all have anomalous bodies so that they can have Basically a means of of earning money built into their existence so I know so. The mother and the mother and father do novelty acts. I think one of them is an acrobat. And the others Maybe a mermaid. I can't remember like it's a thing you can train yourself to do whereas the freakshow as it is called in the book Is a person with an anomalous body so like an extra limb or something that at the time period would not have been thought of medical so much as an omen so the family decides that that's what they're gonNa do and dose themselves with something that May that messes up their DNA so they had this family full of me. I don't WANNA say Disabled. Because they are able and other ways. But it's just it's it's a very complicated and it's told from one of the children's perspectives. So it's just it's real good. It's real good and real scary and it has circus element which is always a little spooky or at least unnerving inspe- antastic truly is and it took me and we were talking about like covers. It took me so long to read that book because the cover of the version that I kept seeing was just not very good like it. Didn't I mean I don't WanNa say not very good because it is of course? We'll design but it didn't depict what was happening in the book on the cover. Okay yeah and I know you're not supposed to judge a book on its cover. But we do we. Do we do but we do all right. So yeah those are my two big horror literary reads and of course beloved but I talk about that in this big given right right it is the best all right so the horror story. I was like I. I knew it was kind of jam. So I'm thinking okay. What can I bring to this? I'm kind of down. The Rue of the psychologically or n-nothing type of stuff love it siren. Yeah so A Children's Book Code Marianne Dreams by Catherine Stole and it's a couple of decades old now and it's about an ill girl who he's bedridden from her illness and as part of that her mom gives us from crayons to quit and the drawings that she makes she starts entering them in her dreams. And IT IS I. It's good it's really incredibly it. An incredibly or nerve an incredibly dog for what it is and when it was so unusual so yeah Marianne Rene's Sequel to the wasn't by any means is good so stay. Quit the first one and freaked out again. Come and tell me all about it because I am still thinking about that book. Yes add to cart. Not While I was on the call immediately afterward I will. Every now I've been like British children's and young out literature throws out these really unusual things that make any sense. They don't any show they don't for any criteria they just kind of also resolutely of themselves and I think Marianne Dreams is one of those books and it's incredibly well done awesome so yeah is it illustrative. Yes so the drawings that she does and the addition. I think it's the same throughout the addition. I had copies drawings. Come in and you could say like what she made on the pay and oh I don't know how anyone when they first radio and I came out ever true anything again. Just No. I'M GONNA get sucked into. I'm not having those crayons. I will stay the patron now because I think let's say la blank pages good so yeah the last one I thought of is its own a similar line which is black Narcissus Magadan. And there's a BBC adaptation of this. I think coming soon. So keep your eyes out for that. 'cause I'm really looking forward to what it is is it's a group of nuns are sent to establish a convent in India in the Himalayas Wa. And it doesn't go well. They're kind of affected by the area. That kind of affected by the things that happen certain of them find their commitment to their religion incredibly challenged and things go to a scary and unusual and complicated place and it's not necessarily Hara in you know ghouls and gremlins jumping out of the darkness at you. But it's more the things that lie in the back of your psyche. Finally making themselves known I cannot wait. Oh God I am so pumped for that. I love the book so it had me at none. I'm ready. Yeah and the film is by Amherst Powell by Powell and pressburger really iconic will will to mid century filmmakers armed the film. I recommend as well if you if you can't get out the book get yourself towards the film. It's beautifully done and eights go a lot in it. Think about Sam. I'm trying to be like as coy as I can. Without telling you ever sure. Yeah you don't want to give much but I think it's it's one of those books that you kind of think you understand it. And then he put it down anything now best so much more and I'm only yeah you just. That's how I was about the movie. The weight like in the grocery store like four days later just staring at the laundry detergent. That Man. It just keeps unfolding. I love it. I can't wait in his black. Narcissus of flour. Yeah Office Florida. It's black nod office but yeah the certain yellow. One plant sought my specialty. Either cool okay so yeah. I'm excited for this. No I We will come back to this kind of area in discussion the future. I think there's still a lot more tiles and a lot more things that we could have mentioned. I think. Yeah if you hit shown that we've missed owners that you'd like to talk about or things for the future that you want us to give you recommendations description on that. His were more than happy. Yeah we can do a deep dive into any of these or if we missed one We Love we love hearing from you all about what you want us to address and all that or just to tell us that you acted or will. I like less when you tell us that you don't but of course but don't want to know because trying to improve you've capture. The castle could spend. Yeah I'm excited for that one to have at least three that manning to my God. Oh so what are you reading now Louise so I recently sold my first book book. Which is which is kind of glorious and I congratulate as part of the I bought myself because I am nothing not brand. I bought myself some vintage picture. Books to celebrate and I picked the model line Treasury by Ludwig Baumann's and so today's if you've been seeing you post about that made me so pay that just so great If you don't know model line is a tiny girl who attends a Convent School in Paris. There are twelve little girls into alliance on the smallest of the mall is Madeline. It's adorable and she takes no grief she. She's just tough. And Small and feisty on the books are beautifully done. They were done by I think literally battlements was a New York reporter reporter for the New Yorker. Okay Yeah So. He's really strong beautiful eye for detail and so in this kind of eccentric story of these two this logo storming her way around Paris you get some classic sights and sounds of the images that she's around so you see like the eiffel tie you see like the. Oh chauncey Liza you see the other and it's just beautiful. Oh that's wonderful. Keep posting about it all right well. I'm so obsessed with them. Say can you tell us about your book on Shaw and it features nuns and burdens and convince and there is a with my work at the moment there really is of in a boarding school story and is out in autumn 2021. Wonderful so excited for you times. Yeah so what are you? What are you reading? Oh okay so I just started reading a manual for cleaning women by Lucia Berlin and it's another collection of short stories and I am really enjoying it so far because I can't remember if I've talked to about to you about it On here but I'm really fascinated with The way people go about jobs that I don't WANNA see their unappreciated. But like if you do them. Well then people don't really notice like cleaning people. Yeah you know So I'm really enjoying that A lot excellent. It's very cool. Yeah obscure and it was recommended on Carmen. Maria Machado's list in. Ah You know. I'm obsessed with her. I just been working my way through that list. Now have somewhere to add to but yeah. 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Michele Madansky's new research into sexual harassment in the tech industry

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Michele Madansky's new research into sexual harassment in the tech industry

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You're listening to Rico decode from the vox media podcast network today in the re chair is, Michelle Madonna, who's been on the show before to talk about her research into harassment and discrimination in the tech industry, which was called elephant in the valley and was a long time ago. She now has a new version of that study and we're going to talk about it. What is changed in the past couple of years? And of course, what hasn't Michelle welcome to Recode deco. Thank you for having me. So you say you're just going to talk and tell me things I would love to know what's like let's go. Let's review what you do tell the people what you've done in your long, and storied career. Okay. So I am a independent market research consultant, and I work mainly with digital media companies. My clients have been Pinterest Twitter, check baby center post mates. Uber, etc. My last fulltime job was at Yahoo Yahoo, where I ran market research from two thousand three two thousand seven and I know people didn't like Yahoo. The need at the time. Yup. Yeah. Yeah. At I'm here because I'm co author of the elephant valley, which I'm going to talk about. But I you know, I kind of got into this project in a very sideways manner. Right. So most people that we've heard about who are talking about gender bias in tech had something bad happen to them, right? Ellen Pao was in followers cetera. And the reason I got into this is because I'm a market researcher, right? You got it. You had to put numbers to this. Yeah. Right. Yeah. So the, the background is the Ellen Pao trial, two thousand fifteen Recode is to integrate job blogging about this every single day. We did you didn't reporters on it. We have the very excellent lose gains and Nellie bowls also did an amazing job and it was great as they did amazing coverage, the two of them. They did. And like many women I was following this every day. Right. So we're all gonna reading about this, and one day this woman trae, the sallow was subpoenaed, and she tells on shoot guests, so she was testified about being harassed by the same guy. Guy who Ellen pow had been harassed by. And after that happened. This is all according to try. So Trey was a partner Kleiner Perkins. She was harassed by the sky. She did all the right things. She reported to shar the guy was fired. She ended up leaving Kleiner. She now has her own VC firm called defy, but she never talked about publicly until she was subpoenaed. Right. And according to trae after she testified all these women came out of the woodwork and where they did emailing her, and they're all saying, hey, thank you so much for talking about this. I've had similar experiences and Travis RC overwhelm, because she thought she had thought she was all alone in this experience and a felt a little bit guilty because the only reason she talked about this was because she was a peanut. Right. So you know what she said was I had no idea this was such a prevalent issue. I wanna learn more about it. Let's do some market research, and she was walking and talking with her friend Hillary, Michael. Who was my friend? Who I my colleague at Yahoo? And Hillary said, oh, if you wanna do market research, talked to Michelle, so that's how we got involved, and it was really a clever of effort between a number of women, some Stanford affiliation, and we reach out to our network of senior level women in Silicon Valley and surveyed them about their experiences. And of course, the first thing that we did, once we had the results as I said. Hey Keira can we talk about right? Yes. And this was a long time ago. This is before all the metoo. Exactly. Yes. So we the, the podcast was January two thousand sixteen one was released and after that happened, what was interesting is that we had built a website so you can still go to elephant in the valley dot com and some of the stats are there, and there was also a way for women to enter their stories. Right. So after the podcast, we got six hundred women entering their stories on our website and every media outlet wanted to talk to us. So we wrote for time, we wrote for, you know, we were published a Newsweek. The Irish Times vogue, like really kind of go ahead. You had this stat data from all these women telling stories and you're trying to collect statistics to yes. Yes. Yeah. So just stories stories are critical, right? And, and the, the one stat which this is a headline, which I love, which was from the SF ist that sixty percent of women in tech are sexually harassed and more numbers to make you throw up. Great headline for a story, that was, of course, was the thing that got picked up. So after that we got contacted by south by south west and, you know, Trey got the Email and I was like, oh, I'm going to south by south west. Let me I'll talk to them and they just to be on a panel. And the next thing, we know they said, hey, we keynote at south by southwest, and yeah, the tried to get you to, you know, these okay, all right? And you were already booked they don't want you to. So anyways been rules of south by. So the way you know, I'm a hall of Famer I get to say whatever I want about south a special badge and shit. I can probably like damage people want you drink whatever I, I really liked the podcast of Kathy Griffin. Oh, that was great. So. For all the time now because my best. So I let her come to code or do you think that's just a disastrous idea? Why not because it could be a disastrous idea. Oh, she can come in trouble. Okay. Anyway. So, you know, you get to speak, your hall of Famer like for me. I'm a market researcher. It was a big deal for me to be able to keynote at south by southwest and that year. Obama was speaking. So I've a PowerPoint side with my face next to his, which I try to show as many places as possible. Okay. So at south by southwest, we do this panel trays on their Meghan Zahn, there, Laura Wiedeman, power from twenty forty and in the audience is a woman who is from an organization called the three percent movement, which is focused on getting more women in senior creative positions in advertising. And she contact me afterwards and said, oh my God, I would love to replicate this research for the advertising, and you know that before I worked in at Yahoo, I was in advertising for my first half of my career and so much. More egregious behavior there. Sure. And so I was like, yes, let's do this for advertising. So we publish something called elephant on Madison Avenue. You can also download that research someone automotive news. Contacted me and said, I'm a guy who is yeah, so news published it market research. So we now have all this research, kind of comparing the different industries. This is all because of you know, thank you. Well, anyway, you got the word out which is kind of awesome. Where are we now? So I know you want to get to over now I do want to talk about just the comparison to different industries are. Okay. So when I first got the statistics sixty percent of women have been subjected to unwanted sexual vessels like that seems super high is that high is not high. I couldn't find any comparable statistics. The best thing I could find was a Cosmo survey in two thousand fifteen this had one in three women eighteen to thirty four had been sexually harassed whatever they make that up. So I mean it's higher six percents higher. Compared to other industries. Advertising surprised him was lower fifty four percent automotive higher. Sixty five percent market research, Woohoo. I work in a good industry thirty-five percent. So still not great, but much better. There are some other differences advertising women are most likely to have been asked to do lower level, tasks, man. Go ahead. Yeah. The work mom got a thing automotive is obviously in most for sexual advance, you know for sexual harassment. So other industries have also reached out. So tech industry is bad, a lot of other disres- bad are different nuances for each of them. Right. But at least now we have a way to say, okay. This is how we compared to some other industries love to get more interesting. This was an issue. This is a way Vinod Khosla tried to actually Nellie. Did it really great interview with him at the Commonwealth Commonwealth club? And they talked about that. And I think he was like, well, lots of industries are bad, which I thought was lame friggin excuse for bad behavior. But anyway, that was the idea. It's not different than anywhere else, which I don't think is the. The point. But no. But tell me why you wanted to compare them because I think that tunder stand like for women coming into tech is that a is this much worse than if you go into finance. If you go into academia, like you know, we don't want to scare away women from join our industry, and because we are worse than other industries. Right. Right. And the fact is that, you know, there's a lot of room from proven across industries. Right. Right. Okay. So you compare these all. And then we're we're this new. Okay. So it's like okay, it's three years later. All this stuff is happened. Doesn't me too. That's happened. There's a Susan follows up and the Google walkout kind of happened afterwards. Right. But basically, the answer is everyone's getting sexual harassed or bother, or there's some gender bias, this much more visibility into it. Right. And much more. Just open discussion about it. So I said, hey, I want to relaunch his survey three years later. Let's see if anything this change with the same women, same cohort. Right. So we actually had three hundred women in two thousand eighteen two hundred. In two thousand fifteen. So I'm going to share with us stats on some of the stuff that's were some of the same. But I really want to focus on some of the stuff that gives me hope. Okay. Well before we do that, 'cause I wanted to the next action took me about what's goal of this for you to be doing these. And the next thing I want to talk about the, the next section we're talking about the results. But what is the goal of doing studies like this, and continuing to do studies? What do you think the point is? Yes. So for me, I think that the way to make improvements is first of all to have a benchmark to say, like let's make people aware of all these issues, and yes, sexual Harrison's, one thing. But there's the things like not looking women the I there. Yeah. Things like, you know, having the women take the notes in the meetings. There's the, you know out thousand little slice. Yeah. The, you know, the death by thousand cuts. So when I talked to a lot of, you know, men who are pro women promoting women. They had no idea like there's really you know, you know, you know who the bad actors are in, you know that when you see it, right? But you don't know all the. Little slights that happen every day. Yeah. Exactly. So it was interesting. One of the things that I found interesting when we were doing the, the, the coverage of Ellen Pao style, which I thought was a real watershed moment, Silicon Valley, and Susan Fowler was the second. Do you know what I mean? The two of them sort of, I think, of them connected in some way. Is that every woman when we did that coverage? It was really important to do it. That much and was such gifted writers, and such good reporters because we wanted to put a put a light on it. I thought that was critically important. And so, and then people started picking it up because it's an also an interesting story. There's, you know, there's next money and weirdness, you know, every Jack leather jackets, whatever there's a lot of weird going on. There is interesting, and it also gives you a real, you know, you can see it. Other places. People can understand in great characters, etc. So what was fascinating with people reading it, and we were trying to create a narrative around it. So people tune in every day, you know, with that great writing, and that great reporting, what was really interesting. Is that every woman, I ran into had ten stories like that everyone. And they often they were very much. A scale and they love to read it because they were, they were like I see myself, you know what I mean, which was interesting on a scale of those little slights like take notes get the coffee that kind of stuff to very serious sexual harassment. Now, most people were down in this area like down in the slights area, the lack of promotion, the treatment somewhere in the middle, which are just gross remarks, and the others were lesser people, but still significant were over here. And it was really interesting at ten ten to everyone had ten like at least ten examples, I have ten which I can't believe, but I do I could count ten and all the really good men. Why consider I've used that sort of a loose term. But people who I don't consider, you know, schmucks schmucks. There's there's we all know this schmucks, right? Then there's the jerks, but then there's most people didn't know anything about it didn't know didn't you weren't paying attention willfully ignoring their own stupid behavior, sometimes or didn't notice it when it was happening around them, or it was really interesting. Just didn't know. And. It was like, is it because the women don't tell them or the are paying attention or combination of the both, and it was very interesting. I remember thinking that's why we have to keep telling the story. And that's why we keep putting the statistics out just two people get it's they can't look away. I guess they can't look away, which is interesting. So what is the reason you want to call Elena valley, because it's else in the room that nobody everyone pretends to see believe that's still the case. They pretend not to see it now since between then. And now I think there's a lot more visibility. That's interesting. Maybe we should change the name right? There's a kind of a catchy name, but I do think that there's a lot more awareness among, you know, men and women are and calling each other out on that women also are feeling more confident to call out men or to, like support other women in meetings when men are man splitting or taking their ideas as their own. Right. Which are the typical ones, but there's word city is one seven that when we get back on talk more about what the research was that you've found in between the two. Things with Michelle Danske. She is what do you call an independent media? Mark market research continues to work. Yahoo worked all around the valid, lots of companies, and she did research into harassment discrimination in the tech industry several years ago called elephant that valley, and she's back with the new information now. Today's show is brought to you by China here in Silicon Valley. You hear a lot about growth, but scaling up while serving the diverse needs of your workforce can be a challenge trying, one of the amazing sponsors of the code conference this year can help you with your HR needs. Take Brompton bicycle, for example, they make folding bikes that work normally on any street, but also fold up small enough to fit into an overhead bin when Brompton wanted to expand from London to New York. 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Poly-amorous hermetically, sealed domes and Courtney Kardashians dining room chairs, but not necessarily in that order, new episodes of nice, try come out every Thursday subscribed for free on apple podcasts or in your favorite podcast app. We're back with Michelle madams gay. She's the author of elephant in the valley which talks about Harare, was surveys in research. He did into harassment discrimination in the tech industry. So we had before and now we have now so let's talk about now. Don't compare it to before to talk about the results you got. Okay. So I am going to talk about start with the bad and moved to the better. Okay. So we're starting with what's worse percent asked to do lower level tasks went from forty seven percent in two thousand fifteen to sixty one percent in two thousand eighteen is that just because people reporting the more or what do you think, you know, I don't know. I think that there may be more aware of what that could be. They Lord it before. Yes. So two of the quotes, I have here. One colleague, said, oh, men can't multitask, like you when I asked him to take the notes instead of me particulars, and then another woman, I thought this was interesting, not fetch the coffee, but more emotional labor, these days, literally. Smooth this over. So she wasn't talking about, like, you know, taking knows. But more like you deal with that problem employees or you deal with that, you know, problem clients. So I thought that was a different take on her better at that. Yeah, yeah. Not whenever they send me and it gets worse. We've different percents. This does a whole separate conversation is around. I feel like there are women like you and me who can hang with the guys. And we have. No, we've been very successful. And it doesn't matter it really, you know, but we want to make this the place where someone who doesn't have our personality whose quieter who's less leads to interrupt. I agree. Can't be successful. I'm an Olympic Naggar. It works beautifully weird anyway, Aker. Okay. So the second thing this is not what's worse. But one of the questions I ask is, is there anything that you think that we should have asked that we didn't? And we totally forgot to ask about compensation 'cause I study K. And there's been a lot of studies since then. But so sixty percent of the women say that they're less welcome sated than their male peers eighteen percent say it's equal three percent more favorable ninety percent. Don't know. So if you actually re-based to get rid of the people who don't know, three and four women believe that they are less well compensated. And a lot of them actually had. Proof like men, leaving their W twos on the printer Ryan's like that. So, okay. So that's the what's what what's the same two stats are exactly the same. So the sexual harassment sixty percent two thousand fifteen fifty nine percent. Two thousand eighteen and what did you? How did you describe describe? That's a very good question. Because I think that partly explains why they're such while differences. But the way I phrased it was people who are some we use objected to an unwanted sexual advance. So it wasn't like you were, you know, necessarily accosted, but it was an unwanted sexual advance comment or touch, or something like that. It's you have to define it your own way. Right. Okay. So, I think that's another thing about kind of using the same survey instrument across industries because how the way that you phrase it can really vary? How people respond. Sure. So this was any unwanted sexual jazz and could be touching could be not touching could be words. Okay, and did you ask people? Differentiate jeannot. Okay. We had a lot of anecdotes. And I think a lot of them were, you know, advances man, some of them were, you know, more costs, the other thing, which is exactly the same was at two and three felt excluded from key social networking events because of their gender. Right. So how many stories about golf, you know? Yep. How many stories just read some zonal whereabout that strip club in so Ma was, there was something about that the gold Gold Coast, go, like never walked by it all the time. And even know where was okay, I love this one story. This woman said, I was excluded from a whiskey tasting and the guy who organized it said he thought that I needed to be home to pick up my kids, what it she. She doesn't have kids. Clincher. So there's all this, like, okay, it's just an excuse to get together with the guys. I mean trade talks about like these women are skiers. I mean, she's a really good skier, so she can go on these ski trips. But then they're like, oh, well, we only have an Airbnb in this new room for the women there, whatever. But that's. The same. Right. And I think that's a big public, I, I, you know, again, I personally have not seen any had any, you know, active harassment, but I have seen a lot of the women, there's this whole network of the diaspora, and we've all done, you know, well, but all the men who are putting each other on each other's boards. The men are opening yourself now down. Yep. Okay. So that's the he man. No lady. No women club. Yeah. Thank you, exactly. But we'll also the one up in oh that thing I think about rating, it every now and then. It's the worst. Name though. He he my brothers doctor up there. He does Dr wins a lotta old guys. I think anyone. Okay. So now I'm gonna talk about what's better. Okay. Okay. So care. I listened to your podcast a lot. Okay. I don't listen to it at all. You are completely. You're so prolific. It's ridiculous. Eric is sick. Man. I think you're sick of me. Okay. I have to say I agree with you ninety percent of the time. But I'm depressed. I'm like, tech rigged the elections. Over in neighborly in the culture of hate. Divisiveness check? We haven't done anything for the environment. Jack double check, okay, lawn and Bill Gates are trying all over, you know, the, the teachers and the policemen and everything in our schools have to move. I'm talking in London. Breed about that tonight. Okay. Yes. Yeah. So check not to mention the homeless. We're not doing anything about it. So I'm like, do we want to stay here to air pods are great bringing a positive thing about technology? I love my air pods. I am going to say though. So what I want you to say here. Is that why the co author of elephant, the valley is optimistic about the future of women in tech assessment Eric to be this thing? Okay. All right. Okay. All right. All right. And going on which was not. Okay. Razer headlines. We're not gonna let it oriented, cuma her. Right. I'm not going to frame this progress. Not perfection. A few were have heard demeaning comments from men locations. So that has been a little bit better. Yeah. They're smarter. They're not gonna do those, they, they're worried fewer have reported men, making I contact with male peers. But not with what? So they're getting more. I contact and maybe they're like less Asper that have yet. Okay. So that's good. All right. So those were questions I asked two thousand fifteen in this next survey. I also asked some specific questions about, like me, and inclusion, so again, metoo had not happening. Exactly. So this had happened. Right. Has no, no. Susan Hadden had Ellen. Yeah. Yeah. It was Ellen Pao. But it wasn't Susan. Follow wasn't famous memo Susan Allerton. Yeah. Okay. So twenty seven percent agree that Silicon Valley has become a better place for women to succeed. Fifty seven percents said, no change sixteen percent said it's more challenging, but that's a positive this twenty seven percent of saying, hey, is become better before. This is a new question. A new question. It's not a very good number there. This shelter terrible. Not terrible this. There's the positive there's the like, okay. All right. The quota Steelers the amount that said, no, there's no change. Change change. Fable. Yes. There's positive there's a glad that Uber brothers were finally taken down. Yeah, there's more awareness of the problem that people don't know how to fix it. It's easier to speak up when instance arise. Yeah. So there's like there's a wariness. This is like a way this is that the first step. Yeah. The worst is the first step to enlightenment or something like that. Okay. Get to keep hitting them. Ok. Okay. Has the focus on gender biases. Silicon Valley and me been helpful or harmful to the industry. Fifty eight percent helpful helpful. Yes. Okay. That's a small number though. I think it should be here for some chippy, like a hundred thirty five percents. So no difference. Okay. All right. Seventy seven percent. Harmful for the so there's there's like you know what I've heard like now. Men are afraid to go have lunch with women, blah, blah, blah. Like that's not someone said that to me the other day. Now, I'm afraid, I'm like, just don't touch their boob and it should time like what I'm like you're an idiot, but that's a positive number that it has been helpful. Okay. Positively, yes Paul, how's the tippety? Not pollyanna. But I really like I six ten have said that their companies launched a diversity inclusion program, which is neither here. Everyone's doing that yet. But among those half of said that the programs have actually helped the atmosphere of women in our programs not these ridiculous. Like let's hire unusually looking people to, like, do our diversity programs. You don't you know they they, they don't give them teeth. They don't give them true teeth to really change things. Right. So it's not just it's not just feel like they're they're helpful. Yes. Okay. All right. So that's the good. Is there anything companies that are better than others? Well, I you know, I don't know. I was, you know. One of the like good. Guy. I know I was like you, you do have like occasional like, oh, I'm so uplifted by listening to the out of your. Yeah. Okay. So he's a good guy. So thus the quantitative rations, but there's other qualitative reasons that I am personally optimistic. Okay. So we talked about the awareness in Silicon Valley, and there is this genuine surprise about the, you know, for men, not understanding what she's identified also. The second reason is the next generation of men. Okay. So from the research I looked at the data of sexual harassment of women under forty versus over forty. Okay. And those under forty only fifty three percent only only fifty three percent have had an unwanted sexual advance and those of us over forty sixty five percent. Yeah. Well, the same is true in the advertising community. All right. And we can be cynical, and we can say the reason that happened is the more conferences, you go to and the more you travel internationally. There's more chances. Schmuck. Write more, you can say you know what this younger generation of men are more aware. And you know just better actors. Yeah. And that's the narrative that these more online porn. But anyway, I'm telling you, I think that is an improvement. It is. It's still fifty. That's still too many. I mean too many. But it's the fact that, that young hopefully that as it continues. Right. So is it that the younger men are not sexual acts as much or the older men of stop sexually harassing younger women like that. That hasn't we need. We need more sample. We need other stuff to get at that, but it's kind of. Creepy old Duterte creepy young dude, like what which which creepy was which level of creepy wasn't. And there's of course, scrapes across the well, it's also it is a level where I mean, look, this different Biden. I mean, you know, even though he is seems functionally unable to say I'm sorry to anybody. It's a really the awareness of what he's doing. I think I don't think he'll be grabbing anybody again ever again in his life like we're touching them without their permission. Al Franken also. Yeah. I think it's just I think so. Well, the awareness is massive now how much people should pay for. That is a good question. Right. You know what I mean? That's really probably they won't pay that much whatever you think of it, there, probably won't like people are going to just give it a by because it's not like Harvey Weinstein. Lamar behavior. No gradations. And right. I mean it's hard to do that. I have had several people recently come up to me and saying, shouldn't we just give everyone a by now? Who isn't that bad? I'm like. I don't believe I said, I don't know. I said, no, let's not. It was interesting. It was an interesting question, but you see that more and more, right? So where do we go from here? Okay. Okay. Okay. Gen Z. Great Louis, Louis my son, your son. I my agency sons, right. And Louis was awesome. On your podcast. Yeah he was he was eloquent. He was. You know, he s he really, really good job. And I look, so my two sons. My older son is in college his first semester of college. He went to Greece and his roommate was transgender, and it was like you didn't even think that it was like, oh, by the way, my room is transgender. My younger son has roomed with transgender students and you know, youth group retreats, but I think for this generation, they're just have different attitudes towards humans. Well, it depends on what your race. I mean the closer. With the closer. You know, my, my kid has been raised in a very liberal environment, and I think, but I do think I actually think it's more than that, because I have another son who's a little more conservative. I would say, but I think they're both like what the hell is that a problem for, you know, you can get that? And I think a lot more kids than you think of from all areas of the country like that. They're not. There was actually a really interesting evangelical statistic that the older people are still obsessed with the gay thing. And the people were like let's, let's just move on. Let's let p footage get married and leave them alone. It's nice that he's religious and Mary, and so it's the statistics are really quite glaring actually, in terms of the younger says old, which is fascinating. So, yeah, I think yeah definitely jen's e is different group of people, including around issues around women. And I don't think he feels. My younger son's, too. Young to think about this. I think he feels burdened by it. Like he doesn't think, oh, what a bummer. I can't be an asshole. I just think that's the way they think. Right. You know, like I don't have to. He doesn't feel like he has to change because he never behave like that, if that makes sense. Right. So lot of culture lot of the men are like a victims. I can't do that anymore like they feel bad about. You know you get that thing. But jen's e- people don't they just don't. It is the most, you know, it's the most multicultural immigration. Yeah. I think the most open minded odd percent. I mean, and also, they also find it offensive. They find it gross. I think which is interesting. Although I have to say my son just related something to me about someone in his class, that was kind of gross, but he, but he also was like put a stop to it like the internet. I mean like they feel responsibility. Now, of course, I, I have like drilled into them that it's his responsibility to see something do something. But it's really it is an interesting. I it should be interesting to see the next statistics. You get right? Okay. So another another trend which I'm optimistic about is the rise of breadwinner moms now. So Liz, Monday, do yes, she wrote a book called intersex journalism school with her, okay? Super interesting. But, you know, fifty percent of college graduates now are female and the United States and globally is over fifty percent that was a stats. And when you go to visit collar. Ages, especially if you go, this small liberal arts schools, all of them are seventy percent female right? So it's. At yahoo. There were a lot of women like myself, where the breadwinner moms? But that mean bread with him. I'm always, so according to pew. Yeah. Okay. Thank you for asking for a few. The women just has to earn a dollar more than the man. Okay. Like, so in my case Travis was a stay at home dad for a decade when I moved here and there were not. I mean, he could not find other men in Menlo Park who were stay at home dads. Right. So it's I think just the, the overall acceptance of women as breadwinner moms as men in kind of different roles is going to change the narrative around the workplace and the homeplace Dari, we're gonna get back in a second with Michelle Danske. She is the author of the studies elephant in the valley about gender Tacoma, nation and sexual harassment and she's come back with some new stats. Talk about that a little more. And then what we can do to make the numbers better going forward. Hi. This is Peter Cosco. I'm the host of Recode media. He's an awesome podcast that I make about media want to tell you about a specific episode. I think you will listening to he's with Jimmy Petar oath president ESPN, one of the most powerful programming networks on TV also one that's under a lot of stress. He's down the fifteen months we talked about what he's doing to sort of reshape that thing and, or keep it competitive all other sports networks and the internet in general. It's a good conversation. You can listen to it for free. Jimmy Petar was on the Recode media podcast with me, Peter Kafka on apple podcasts. Four wherever you are listening to this message right now. We're here with Michelle, McGann. Ski she is a researcher. And she did a study that I did a podcast with her, and Trey best, the Selo many years ago called elephant the valley, it was about how women in tech looked at sexual harassment and gender discrimination. She has since done a lot of research and other industries, like advertising and automotive and she's back with new tech information. She's been relating lot of it. And one of the things we just talked about was breadwinner moms. And how does that affect younger people? Is that they're less? What well I think that there's this, you know, as there are more women who are getting undergraduate degrees, so we're getting graduate degrees. They're going to be more poised to be the breadwinners in their families. Right. So there's going to be this natural evolution where we need to navigate. They need to navigate just as I did the work environment. Like, you know, if you're the breadwinner, you need to be able to work in whatever environment whether that's tech or -education is cetera. And so the workplace is going to. Have to adjust to that. And as well as the, you know, our home lives. So men, taking more responsibility in the home. You know it cetera. So I think that just that kind of that discussion around rolls and there was an article in the New York Times, I just read was about to a couple that are lawyers and talking about how the women tend to know she. Yeah. She went to twenty hours a week and the husband works, sixty hours a week. And he makes five times as much as her right? But that that's not the, you know, the narrative is shifting so that, you know, women can do that in men can take the lower. The lesbians already figured this one. Listen, that's been should raise all men that this might look right? Well, off I'm doing I'm doing research around, breadwinner moms, man, if there's any listeners who are prevalent amongst want to talk to me. I'm hoping to write a book about it. But I think, yeah, I mean the, the same sex couples have figured it out. The were. Just getting there and, you know, it's low, but he, but we have to because there's just more and more women who are, are poised. I mean I have a PHD in business. My husband has a floppy undergraduate degree, and that's that's. You know you thinking the good Travis. So, so let's talk about what how you changed, right? Because the numbers still remain glaringly obvious that white men ruled the roost continually every time they even when those reports come out, I'm like, oh, once again, it just doesn't move. The needle doesn't move, it seems like there's no efforts as much as they say, there's difference it feels like maybe it's priority. Number fifteen just recently, one of the big CEO's called me. They were adding someone to the staff, and it was very had been a very male dominated staff. And I was like, is it a woman, and he goes, no one, I was hanging up before I was like, I don't want to hear about it. I just okay. I'm not writing about I'm not writing about it. I just I'm tired of it. It's and I wasn't trying to like push numbers on him. But it was like, really, you can't find it was a role where the plenty of women candidates. That's why was irritated with them. So how do you change the numbers because I think that's part of it. Right. Yes. So power and being in power. So the last reason that I'm optimistic is and, and I think this is one of the ways that you change the narrative is more women supporting. Other women. So you think about, like one of the things in reading the Ellen Pao book, which, I finally read, what was said to me, was that there was a number of partners or junior partners, or whatever they were, but they weren't really supporting each other. And I think that for a lot of places whereas care what we seem scared, but go ahead. Yeah. I mean, I think maybe the culture wasn't. Right. But, you know this eaten beaten culture over there. Yeah. So, you know. So maybe that's the culture. But I think that in a lot of places where there are only very few women on the top, you don't want to be seen as like I'm having lunch with the other woman, right? Like you have to be one of the guys and what I've seen over the past few years is all these women supporting each other more. So you see that through, you know, this informal groups like the Yahoo diaspora women's group that I'm part of that we have lady groups. Yeah. Yeah. We all get. I mean it's just like we all just get together and you know, kind of support each other in whatever is needed. You see people like alien Lea and Tina Sharkey like always pumping each other up on social media. You know, and you do that also. Yeah. To your credit, but I think that we're seeing more of that. And the more, you know, board lists etcetera, when I don't know, when the Burtless started, but it's the idea that you can create these things I know part of it is great. Although you do get pushback from men, like why do you have women's only groups? I'm like, really he needs to stop. Well, they can they can be welcome to jail. Thank you can give us where. Obviously, you know, Sheryl Sandberg did this years ago. It's been written about like her women's groups, were really interesting. That was very early like a women's only dinners where she brought in big games and stuff like that never gonna fight. Oh, sorry. They were. But, but the, the concept of it is that is women, supporting women, but I'm talking about actual change of people getting into high ranking positions. How does that make that make a difference from your perspective? We're not at all. Maybe not. Women atop companies that are problems. I think that it would definitely make a difference. How do we get there? You know, I don't know. I was it frito Kapoor? Yes. That was free to. Yeah. Teddy sleeper. Yeah. And the whole discussion around board members mean responsible for the company's and making that imperative I think is really important. So, you know, calling, you know, companies out and have you have you more diverse sports, certainly will help right if you ever more diverse board than it would help. Get more diversity in the C suite. And that will help with the culture women that have to do the heavy lifting where people of color that have to be the ones doing. That'd be lifting on this weird way. You'd think that most people would find this a good idea or at least normal, I do not something not seen as something that's like, oh, I'm going to have to be PC here. It's just a good thing. I mean, what I mean why wouldn't they behave like this? Yeah. No, I mean, I think the onus isn't everybody. I don't know why the onus is never on to manage, just isn't as much. It's usually you've gotta get three women in there. And they have to push for women. I think women are tired of that. I think like having to do that. But, you know whatever you. Oh, yeah. No, I mean, the men should be responsible for this. So, so, so you're talking about positive things. What are you worried about what are you worried about? There's been a little bit of a backlash to the concept. So I could metoo and things like that. I'm more fatigue is more than backlash. No. I mean, I think those conversations of like the men not going to have lunch with the women. I'm not as worried about that. I think that people will get over that and. And for me, I think the important thing is that we really understand where we are a point in time and try to make changes based on that. So what I would love to see is first of all, like a larger scale study, where we can not only analyze this by, you know, women, but by LGBT by people of color by ageism. I mean, there's all this kind of intersection, I don't like that. We're gonna look like co variants, which are also impacting people in earnest Ray so being able to kind of say, like we can't say we have an ageism problem unless we actually measure that, right? You know, important to these people. Right. Right. So you need to do that. I would love to see companies taking the onus and doing that themselves insane. Hey, I'm gonna measure where we are at this point in time. And then make objectives around shifting some of this not just around like the numbers, but how people are feeling in terms of being included. It also has to do with HR. They're supposed to that's supposed to, to me. With HR is an and instead it turns out to be a defender of the company versus. Trying to change agent too often at a lot of these companies it becomes a logistical thing. They become managing problems versus managing change or pushing inch. Yeah. No, I think a lot of the women said, especially on the sexual harassment. They did not report, you know, these incidents because it felt HR we're not be supporting them. No. And those who did a lot of times had bad experience. I mean I mean, the, the Susan follow thing is ridiculous. Right. But common. Right. I don't think it's now figure look they've changed. I mean you know, you know, he's still in those swings. But are you. I mean I I'm cautiously optimistic about the future of Uber with. Yeah, I guess I don't think it's a competent to say they're not quite as you know, awful, like they're not quite as you know, grabby and mean to women. I just, I don't know if that's it's sort of like a, it's a low bar to me. It's over I find it you know, it reminds me of when I was coming out and my mom's like look I was nice to you for being game. Like that's not. He don't get you know, get a star for being for being a decent person. Right. So I think that's one of the parts is that I still I still get the feeling that the priority is not on that. And it's just it's an irritant versus a positive. That's my sense. But maybe I'm wrong. Well, I have to look at the free to Kapoor's. She apparently we'll, we'll see how her fund is doing but yeah, yeah. But then you don't even know what the how the results are skewed because of your ability to access people. Right. And so some people have more access than others. You know, I think that's where the real problem is the access and the ability to just the ability to get in the room to get in the room, not the elephant in the room to get in the room, even if the elephants there. Right. So I think that there are more stories coming out. Also, like I think I'm on the board of an organization called wool grammar, which is woke Graham. Oh, grammar. I was to Facebook, engineers side. I love it anyway. So it's all about just telling stories of women in stem. Right. Right. And I think the more that we tell those stories about, you know, the positive things that women are doing that women. Who did the black hole? Yeah. Oh my God. Here's all tell you what bothers me about that. They kept saying woman, and I was like she's a programmer, my friend. She's not a woman programmer. Like I had someone the other day like you're the best woman draws I'm like, I'm a best journalists like sorry like you know what I mean? Like it was a really interesting. And it's not that he didn't want to celebrate being woman. It's that that's wasn't the point of my work or her work, or anyone's work know that it is my talk. But it is the fact that she was clearly responsible. Yes. And she was being featured as the behind the flack the person behind the black hole. Yeah. And and she was adorable. She's smart and everything else. So talk like finless finish up talking about what needs to happen next at these companies for, if you will go in with this numbers, what do you say to the companies you may be advising? So give me five things. They have to do so everyone is understand. What's happening your company, right? Like you need to understand where these challenges are. And, and what they are is, is it, you know, the. Egregious stuff. Is it though, you know, death by a thousand cuts and what are they in where in which areas of the company and which segments of your work, you're working population, so that we can fix that number two, you know, boards need to be responsible that needs to be more diversity on boards, there needs to be more diversity in the C suite? And, you know, I think there's the make your C suite like your consumer base. Right. That's just a good motto to have excellent motto to have. And, you know, again, I am not I'm not an HR. I'm not in diversity inclusion. I'm just trying to shed a light on the stories. And I think that shedding the light and making people aware and share the data like share the data of within your own company, share the data within the industry, so you can understand, but you're not gonna have any change unless you understand where we are at this point in time. What about going to your positively, because I'm not a positive person. I'm I'm op. Domestic pessimist. I don't know. What are you, are you pessimistic optimist? I'm not go. I'm thinking of optimistic pessimist optimist. That's what I here's what it's also telling you about stories that are good too. That is one thing that I do gets lost in this, because everyone feels badly all the time and they should. But some like I am always like WalMart. Berg changed my career like in talk about, like good outcomes when they were like you can blame him or give him kudos for me, but you have to like is a through line between him you know, to my career to him. And so, I think a lot of the those kind of things you have to talk about which people don't think that's a good point, which is men mentoring women, and I just was on a panel with Dave Smith who wrote a book, when I'm to forget the name of it, but it was all around men, mentoring women and how important it was and how to, you know, be a better mentor. Right. And I think that's a really important thing that kind of gets lost. Because for all those kind of schmucky guys, there's another won't Mossberg out there who. Is supporting and advocating for, and we need to be celebrating that and not making people feel afraid to go out to lunch with the next hot CARA Swisher because. Interesting. A hot journal, how hot is in, like, yeah, I, I, I, I get it pro s but that's how I mispronounce words from now on what do you think? I do all the time. The Nick instead of Malegaon bothers people anyway. Michelle, you have any final words come back with another study in three better now. Better number. Yes. Okay. I will wait back to three years. Okay. And when I have my research on breadwinner moms and talk about how we can create a better society. With more breadwinner moms fantastic. It's a great idea until then the lesbians. We'll have to run everything. It was great talking to you. Thanks for coming back on the show. And thanks to you all for listening. You can find more episodes of Rico decode on apple podcasts, Spotify, Google podcasts, wherever you listen to podcasts. And please tell a friend about this show you can follow me on Twitter at Carrow Swisher. Michelle working people find you online Shumba Danske dot com. And on Twitter at Mitcham de mission. Be okay. 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It doesn't fit because it's an answer to a question you haven't asked yet and when you look at the manipulation of data and some of these studies are going on and he sent me a study recently posted up to shorter day even canada on the mineral <hes> imbalances and food you'll see that their conclusions don't make sense with the data data they've collected same way as the climate studies talking about global warming well what's going on is why because they politicized things and they have an agenda when when you point these things out for example a jitney moto now in japan doesn't manufacturer but when i was back in one thousand nine hundred seventy i actually took care of employees working at the <hes> aspartame plan in south carolina and told us specifically don't talk to the media they actually are hospital directors that don't talk to the media if they come in and they have this this knysna symptoms uh-huh which means polygraph panic brain damage optic nerve rightous <hes> cancer all kinds of things. Don't talk to the media because they're going to be something if you'll be impact actor exposed to aspartame vapors now they took e. coli insert a gene into equal gut bacteria bacteria to jerry peptide doesn't have a centralized interview senator for us off to try peptide. That's what's called an e centrifuge which means it uses electronics current and the atomic or molecular mass actually separate molecules to try peptide out the molecule basically is e coy are your poop bacteria pooping peptides that are basically neuro toxin in an abortive assiut and cancer inducing carcinogen and the fact is they know this and they've known all along and in fact they like it in fact and keep changing the name or they have new generations of sweden doctors like splendido which is i optical ice mercer or as assault an which is also toxic put in things. It's like a bottling company where ciders northern california. We've got ace cider almost no sugar that's because this is also a neuro toxic genotoxic and if you have a previous reaction aspartame and you started drinking splendor. You're gonna get recall phenomenon. It's just allergic. It's a narrow toxic phenomena relate to the spectral frequency effect spectral frequency of aspartame and sucralose is identical at foreign thirty eight point six hurts according to the equations last pauling the spectral frequency of salt and sodium cyclamate is identical two hundred ninety nine point nine hurts. That's a neutralizing frequency so if you don't have to understand ah body is being poisoned on purpose to reduce population reduced fertility and reduce i._q. This is not a joke. This is not by chance it's on purpose. Isn't it dr art religion doctor. Rhonda martini was matter. Hope not if somebody slaps you in the face and the right in front of your hitch with a baseball bat you know the guy in his routine his right hand. You know the perpetrator. We know the perpetrators we know even the data when we see data studies where the day likely fatal drugs loud people. That's the name that dr betty thought up years ago were or i've changed the name now to call the federal federal death agency the federal agency and we all know dr diggle said why did he do not want to license in this country. America's is both a doer of great good and great evil. American does more evil in the world than any other country on earth and currently is ready to put the deduction things and spread g._m._o. Food around the world world and spread of course toxic genetically modified foods. There's four countries united states canada. Argentina and brazil learns the gods with g._m._o. And people understand these toxins for example energy moto the mutating announcing over the counter medicines are prescription medications. They have to take early these are they said well. We have to add a sweetener because we've converted these news matt radical palestinian too generic generates have to have a sweetener no they don't and they add the sweeteners aspartame or something similar to it with a different name right and dr deal <hes>. Something comes the mine from everything you're saying. Do you think <hes> you know the colloquial legalese and how we define the words we use. Do you think that there's a component opponent of that in the way information is delivered because you quote scientists will say <hes> g._m._o. G._m._o. does nothing but because they're saying empirically in some definition of the way i understand it yeah it doesn't do anything but but <hes> ah downstream effects that using those loopholes because in in some sense it is it is true but i mean really it's not true. Do you think well i'll tell you what the problem is. If you want to solve lie you change the terrain in which you're lying about you saying does nothing looks like a tomato taste like tomato mito but if you're doing infrared photograph of a tomato that's got scorpion jeans. It doesn't look like a tomato in insects and all kinds of other life arms inspector. They won't eat it. How pheromones scare the hell out of insects. It's doesn't look like it now. When you bring the spectral frequently something modified like that or you bring an aspartame it directly affects <hes> the resident fifties regulate your d._n._a. So it's not just a toxin it actually regulates the effect of mineral residents in me no acid residents because because you remember minerals and amino acids primary things that control the production of message arnie new nuclear plasma little strove to hold your d._n._a. Too toxic amino acids which is what does this yes nominally. It's gonna shut down specific genes. You're gonna get a deficiency of structural proteins and enzymes. You're also going to get the direct toxic effect of these chemicals because across lean proteins or the amplify actors advocates amplify your immune system so when aspartame you know toxically cross links or produces free radicals articles by docking on enzymes. You're going to end up with certain proteins becoming even organic so you're going to get out of immunity so aspartame is going to increase autoimmune astronomical increase. The breakdown of the blood brain barrier aspartame is going to know premium your brain but it's also going to immunogenetics city of other things you're eating so if you're reading of regular fooling even joe organic food when the drinking the soda you know a soda cola or whatever the has aspartame. It's going to increase the risk. The proteins in the food are becoming. Janik aren't gonna improve. Allergic reaction elevated cytokine levels and redirections. It's just natural but the problem is they wanna make the statements because they want to just avoid it like the lawyers and the politicians the fact is you have to ask better questions. What does aspartame do. How does it do do it. What are the four or five different avenues which aspirin does it doesn't affect epigenetics toxicology auto immunity gene transcription and if he asked people that have supposedly looked at the cell say we did a double blind placebo controlled trial. You can't in many of these cases. Just kind of try would be unethical wouldn't it we want why do his trial of one. We actually measure specific parameters and say what does it do to those parameters. Does it break down the blood brain barrier which you can test if you do actually special things like a quick scan of the brain fine organic acids are looking even toxic cited kinds of their blood but no one's doing this stuff and the people do enough studies realized that hey these things are really toxic exit but the regulatory authorities are honest like this one to talk to dr betty. They'll simply say oh yeah. We do need to reduce world. Population infertility don't mean the latest statements statements by bernie sanders claus. Is we need an hourly reduce the population when you convert human beings into food i mean he's saying this views. Oh no that's not evil is that are you an idiot. You aren't idiot okay. There's no cure for that except the darwin effect which means if your if things get really rough. You're going to die prematurely so you have to understand any of you. Don't listen and don't ask better questions and think that you know what's going on. I don't know everything every day. I get up asking more questions when i know i realize if if i know a thousand times more than the average person they think they already know everything they're dangerous. Because i called vicious ignorance they bare their teeth and growl at those ask questions because they don't they want us to shut up. Now i was born without the shut up gene is this isn't the first hour with michelle mcgann or laugh. The setup gene means when people grow right. You're socially tried to to to shun you. You'll shut up and you try to say thanks nice little like you. I don't give a damn what people think about me. I want them to respect one thing thing. I ask good questions. I present good data and care for them and al di for them but it don't take us until you're not crap of anybody including m._d.'s p._h._d. Scientists politicians and other people bull because they won't ask the tough questions and pursue the data to see whether or something safer not genetically modified food or not safety memorize foods not safe food where he took the we saw them destroyed with gases to kill the bacteria says no minerals toxic e e toxins from electro pollution smart grid <hes> wifi network and five gene in sixty these are talks are destroying enzyme pathways and then when he had asked for payment all the other spinoff would call toxic call sweeteners of death this. This is like a devil potion. You can hear like the school tape letters in the background. It's so wonderful we've had so many names for aspartame thirteen now and directors on covering up all traces of evil and they still think it's just accidental killing sterilizing people isn't that wonderful act satan. Yes we have some very compliant. Jellyfish people including these jellyfish christians won't raise these issues and churches or public bases because they don't want to be shunned by their college thought as a conspiracy theorist that evil exists. That's what's going on people what the doctor bills sits. This is retain wearing this month and lighting sending you the report award. I just did you read. Have you read the new study by the world. Health organization at aspartame was never proven safe. Thank you sent me that last week i did it looked at that yeah in this more recently and this makes total sense. I had scott tips on the program last week last monday and we talked about that. We talked about the fact that by g to how they think about the name if you notice all most all the <hes> articles have the word kids yeah repeat that when we come back because we're gonna be around by the dump bumper but we're gonna come back and while you repeat that back in a couple of minutes stay tuned. 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Alison med order dr bill de gaulle's neutrogena at triple eight two one two eight eight seven one or neutral medical dot com. That's one aaa two two eight eight seven one or neutral medical dot com and listened to the mixture medical report on the genesis radio network with over lines every weekday neutral medical dot com bringing nutrition and medicine together <music> welcome back so many wonder repeat what you were saying just before the break because we're drowned out by the bumper <hes> and expand on us because they your comments of dealing with some of these doctors and even overseas <hes> indicates that they're well aware that hundreds of millions of people will die prematurely surely or be sterilized by these weapons of mass destruction and what people don't understand and again. This is where i want to have a talk with dr tramonte being a psychiatrist understand. One of the words has been removed from the english language especially psychiatry's. It's always a mental illness. Even evil evil is not a mental illness. It's the absence of good and why people should understand it when we see these people in regulatory authority power in our government. They're saying things like hey we do to reduce world population. Look at all the democrats pretty well. All of them are basically saying we need ruse population to say the planet they want to sterilize us and in fact even bernie sanders positive converting human beings to food like sweden green charlton heston people need to start grasping that what's going on here needs to stop an. There's a possibility europe. I was going to actually ban aspartame pretty soon again. Now that is now off patent. It's so cheap but cheaper than regular sugar so it's dan while everywhere and it's got all kinds of we call mm-hmm newton name so you can't tell exactly what's in your food or your medicine so pistons about f- because i worked with him if you've looked at this report and i have dr woo dark millstone dr eric millstone okay and i'm i'm at dock millstone about twenty two years ago when i was lecturing in <hes> england and scotland holland and he's an excellent scientist and he has an he's absolutely brilliant and goes a little further than a lot of people and his study so when i saw so they <hes> f <hes> investigation and of course i was <hes> trying to they have put my so were my network around the world and all of our doctors to and nothing <hes> nothing happened and <hes> <hes> when the rams any studies were done bat dr seuss freddie i keep in mind this is there. <hes> ramazani messini institute one of the top cancer institutes in the world. We're not talking about just and you know researcher. You know oh that's not be familiar with this type of thing. He didn't do one study on on asked pertaining cancer he did three of them and he received received <hes> an award only given twice in history and i know because i was there when he received it and that was with him in new york and i went up there to meet him well industry was trying to prevent it was so prestigious that they they were. They were doing everything in the world. They could don't accept it and some of it. <hes> you know was really can't stupid especially since doctors authors and no better for instance they said you can't accept that rats were retort disease dr so afraid of course of course they did. This is live cam. Study respiratory disease is dying process and we're dying anyway by the time the dr <hes> through <hes> they wouldn't answer so anyway they argued and argued and this is imprint and oppress relate the head of the committee of f resigned and put out a notice quick asa elsa is european food safety agency right right and but anyway they <hes> he put out a knows that that we were pressured by industry <hes> to hijack science so the head of us even before dr millstone got started in a study admit it the whole head of the committee admitted that <hes> that that that they were doing this because cost they were pressured by industry and you have to know from the beginning because there wasn't any asset it was the commission own food you know in britain and they did <hes> they did this study and reported by a friend of mine mark goad the aspertain toxicity since the center because it turned out that the committee on the review was one person probably slack and so <hes> the people over there that have to do with fraud and <hes> it became inactive active and they set up s <hes> to keep them away from industry so then when rams any studies came out and study after study after study on how bad it was after says. We're going to do a review. I said oh my word here. They go again and i sent them. All the best scientific peer reviewed studies things that you absolutely we could not argue it but it turned out what they did was they couldn't find. How do you find one hundred percent amount of independent studies. What they did was they. They have their people they pay to do. Studies shows they plagiarized a review and <hes> marco turned him over to <hes> this organization as i did for conflict of interest. If you got half the committee that's worked for people like coca cola or or the aspertain industry. I was your introduction. I imagine talk for an hour and a half after doctor he lied and i want to hear his comments because young doctor he's quite <hes> how can i say taken by the negativity inside the so-called healing professions nations and regulatory agencies and the government over just healthcare in general because it's not really down to drink send people's life span. It's business but regulation of medicine. Listen and food is insane. I mean i james the name of doctors to m._d. For medical doctor to medical drug salesman m._d._i._s. I realized that that anybody who ask tough questions and i did a lot in medical school. I asked ninety eight percent of the questions of my class one hundred five dollar housi- in halifax nova scotia which is the sister of harvard and across z. water in boston. We had conjoined stays lot with harvard and what people need to understand. I could change it entre sound back in nineteen seventy four seventy five. We're gonna dr mcmillan and i work with a motion disorders lab with dna madison and what i understand is if you're a scientist i which it should be before your doctor healer and and you ask tough questions and you have to be a problem solver you have to understand advanced science before you can actually problem solve became just drug salesman and you can't just accept drug companies or the words of even your professors if you can pull them apart with good questions so dr ele elected government on what you've seen so far because you sent me a study on minerals else but you've seen the same thing goes with the toxic sweeteners what you see happening as a young doctor seeing this. It must be very distressing because like i'm i'm forty six years old from the from the time when i went to medical school nineteen seventy-three. I'm re distressed by the fact that i see the system of anything anything getting worse not better. I don't see it improving and by the way it doesn't matter if it's a socialist country like canada or britain or so-called non-socialist country like america the insurance carriers and the effect of government regulation are in some ways virtually the same in some ways even worse because in regulatory countries like america genetically modified food and toxic six-week nursing so and get away with murder in the crop america than they do in other countries where they won't even accept some countries overseas are genetically modified food like are austria for money d- corn or china or russia. The accept genetically modified food in these countries so your analysis. What do you see happening well on this. Just <hes> preface if you think i'm <hes> i'm thirty three years old i i've got seven years of <hes> medical experience under my belt including my residency residency training <hes> and i you know i trained in the south west. <hes> trained <hes>. I did my medical school at you. Avai and i and i did my residency in albuquerque. I would call those the two epicenters of integrative medicine and and you know talking about all these topics <hes>. I think the first thing that i think we should say that. I don't think most people come to work saying. I'm gonna do a bad job. I don't think anybody says that and and i got a lot of respect for all my educators and all the work that they put into my education however <hes> there is like you said i mean it's understatement to say there's some unbiased in our education not only from the pharmaceutical industry but <hes> but from several other interests that that that keep that keep the wheels turning earnings so to speak i i came <hes> i came in about two thousand six with some awareness of aspartame and some toxicity and that was was that was while i was in college and still thinking about you know how my life was going to be and <hes> i <hes> <hes> you know just a few years ago. <hes> aspartame came up on my radar again when when i had <hes> when i was cheering for for some individuals that pat symptoms that i could not explain and <hes> and so i started. I started picking apart their diet. I started dissecting okay. We're like what are you reading. What are you drinking and and in a couple cases in a couple of cases. There's quite a bit a diet soda or or diet consumption lights or or crystal light. I mean but as an example seems and so <hes> and you know you know and and a cursory search on the internet on toxin tino hits an open source free <hes> service by the government <hes> you can i looked aspartame and then like i haven't thought about this in a long time and i said oh i can give some i._v. He's item. It's gives people vitamins their symptoms more or less disappeared and they said well. I feel so much better doc so <hes> and then it's so it's been kind of on my radar and then in the last couple months. It's you know it's it's it's become apparent to me in my free time during my research and <hes> that it that it is a big problem and <hes> without without violating hip <hes> i think most of the people we see in hospitals settles <hes> i mean i would say more than half are probably experiencing symptoms from aspartame because most of them <hes> are consuming stop with aspartame and and <hes> and and <hes> dr martini i i got a hold of dr roberts book and and i put up about one hundred pages into it over a thousand pages and i'm just blown away. I mean this is <hes> this is. I mean i'm thinking of patients. I've i've seen in the past. Mike wow that was my face with. That was my patient. <hes> you know making it a point right now to tell patients about this and and i try not not to sound like one of those crazy people because you know you sound paranoid right if you're talking about the additives in your food. Everybody says oh they're crazy right well. I mean i mean i tell them systematically. We'll know this published and this is all open source and and when i say to people in the right way they seem to listen the break you gotta break to them gently because they're gonna look at you as not if you tell them you know that and there's so many toxins your food g._m._o. Food and no water. It's ruining your health like an death in britain house dementia well. I could <unk> unless you know what's causing. I would say there's probably a number of we call possible. Add adventures things that we've done. Aspartame is up there. I mean federal depleted soil toxic electoral pollution jam food and of course the overuse toxic poly pharmacy. That's actually depleting specific brain activity activity worth celebrating damage so you have a whole list of things now. I don't know which one is the greatest. I guess the toxic sweeteners are major patrick causing and celery brain damage to your comment dr betty yes. Ah about this. When i first got started. I met my in <hes> new someone from pepsi and any event. They said that they had just done <hes> a ten year. Study on aspertain on humans and the results were coming in and that what was causing all timers birth defects and blindness how this is many years ago. He didn't know that's what it caused i we i knew that it caused that and everybody was beginning a forget and on the <hes> f._d._a. Reporter money to set uh-huh <hes> that <hes> forgets notices. Oh i don't know it must be <hes> from number nine but an interesting thing happened one day yeah ran into someone from the national soft drink association american beverage now and i was giving out flyers like i usually do. I'm i'm this woman turned around and she said aspertain safe. 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Food toxic pesticides like round adopt causes non-hodgkin's lymphoma toxic sweeteners which they know cause infertility decreased i._q. And our cancer-inducing and literally premium bomb you look aspartame and people find this hard to believe that i think it's a conspiracy theory. Would you put it on facts. It's almost like putting being a gunman that he may kill you and you've already got one bullet in your chest hasn't killed you yet and he's about to shoot another bullet and you're telling them that there's a there's a shooter right in front of you killing you and they don't wanna believe it. It's it's it's bizarre. It really is it's like i say i call it vicious ignorance. The public public is they're not stupid. They think it's survival mechanism to believe that they're politicians regulatory series or even their doctors that odors nothing wrong with aspartame good. It'll help you lose weight. Known fact it actually makes you gain weight because insulin oh stimulant and things to make free radicals and things that stimulate insulin actually put weight on you and they make you obese. They actually people to become diabetic. They caused infertility day 'cause lots of other stuff that we probably don't even fully really understand yet but we know that they improve free radicals their opponent co toxic with other things like genetically modified scale radiation. I call e toxins. Toxins are scanner waves and actually shut off enzyme pathways in your body. What's your summary of what you see things going because in my forty six years since i started medical school. I'm very distressed by what i see happening. I don't see very many of my colleagues off enough to ask tough questions or even the fax the rate in the eyeballs. It's me it's bizarre. <hes> why dr bill that's a tall order. I'll say that <hes> ed and i'll say it and i'll answer it as best as i can. With my level of training experience okay here goes <hes> i think <hes> i i think everybody is trained to do what they're trained to do <hes> and and so one solution as we have to look at the training and see if there's some some way that we can go into the training and and supplement the training of our professionals right to to to make them aware of this number one number two <hes> where i see things going that that was the main question you ask rows. I i mean i'm gonna say something. I don't think anybody's ever said okay the guys <hes> i think the only medical specialty that's actually cared about human beings has been preventative in aerospace medicine coming anyway there were said that before because they actually care about the astronauts and they want them to be tiptop before they go into space because come back. I don't think there's any any other specialty. That actually has it at their core to do that because like you said we're pushing drugs so i think if you think about what really causes illness it's excessively. It's deficiency. It's exposure under exposure. It's trauma. It's infection genetics epigenetics. That's everything and most illness is because of probably toxicity and deficiency and exposure and instead of doing something about the underlying cause we are coming from another direction putting the drug on the symptom or or the thing that that is <hes> revealing itself so to speak without getting caught so i mean i i think innovation i think real free thought and innovation in medicine <hes> is is is is has been under attack for very long tack. I got a few analogies for you. What you're saying is the doctors are the scientists are going along in every area science including metallurgy i in building supercomputers. They're going over those break hanan spraying them dashing dashboard light of issues of might be of concern and then the secondly is what i call mega university where the the medical professor or the science professor or the environmental professor intellectually really defecates in the university and if you eat defecation as a p._h._d. Candidate and your defecation in your paper or your your your seizes. The defense looks tastes smells like defecation of the professor you pass so you have to have a similarity of a call mega university sit. The code pests smell test. Ask the ugly test of your intellectual defecation does that make sense now dr diggle and i said well what i learned when i was as low as little as three years of age learned that i learned to talk at about one like most people do but i talked in sentences and by the time i was to ask questions of adults that made them feel feel uncomfortable and by three i was doing stuff that was like very precocious and all the way through school in university in medical school residency. I've asked questions that people didn't want to answer answer. No i don't mind feelings. I'm not averse to feeling stupid because unless you feel empty you're stupid. You're never gonna ask. The question of why things are the way they are. What i see happen as most people that are not really smart. They can live with cognitive dissonance. They can live with things that are non ways don't make sense and they haven't trained intellectual people either in medical school p._h._d. Program basic or advanced science or anything to actually ask better questions to start learning how to think with their brain they learn how to do intellectual defecation location. They learn how to wrote respond to questions so you have to figure out how the test makers making a specific tests. She don't overstate the test maker so you don't fail so the problem is i see they have an anti intellectual system. I have brain exercises for example. I'm going to put up my website and on youtube that will actually raise your accurate in minutes. These exercises are call. Where's waldo exercises. They train you concepts to break them down and actually rebuild concepts as there's a whole grabbing your brain. The problem is people don't know how to think and there are taught anti intellectual ideas because they wanted to do when you put him through the the european system in colossians system of education stood over one hundred and fifty years ago they brought to north america and west they brought this system because they want to train people how to think of how to regurgitate urged because they wanted to teach them how to print how to write how to make sentences and paragraphs how to communicate but they don't teach people how to think about thinking and as a result what happens we have people that are able to passe i._q. Tests because two puzzles but they really aren't original thinkers they don't have what's called an inquisitive index. You know i don't like the i._q. Mike you which is an intelligence quotient. I like the inquisitive index okay. How are you yeah and a and this is where the problem is. If you're scientists and you go through the inquisitive index when you're doing a research paper and saying data means the conclusions at the end of it probably probably means something i found my experience by two percent of articles published by medical doctors and scientists in general including basic sciences like oceanography where i did my work ritual original p._h._d. Is worth reading the rest of it is intellectual garbage. The reason is they don't ask questions to show that they've actually selectively had pre pre-selected data for their conclusions. An alternative conclusions will be made based on the data that they've already selected or the model they have which is not a complete doesn't have all the drivers for example model climate the model of what how the body works for example does the body like g._m._o. Food for example. I had talk to five years ago. A indian doctor during researches a p._h._d. At the university edinburgh on monte de carney founded cause microcephaly a giant abdomen obesity cancer and sterility dropped the sperm count of these gerbils down to zero so switzerland where they got this data they outlawed outlined money the corn coming into swift's to to <hes> osteotomy so what we have to find out that science doesn't move forward because because we do a big study of thousand or two thousand people double blind placebo controlled tried to find an answer because remember they construct the study to prove a specific point and the drug company behest invest enough money to show that they can actually justify their drug. That's why i heard the funniest statement a few years ago if drug doesn't have side effects. It probably doesn't have affects the problem. Is you see we're going around as doctors sprang little flashing light on the dashboard of the body rather than signing a wired. We have so many more kids with eighty. Why did we have more dimension. Now's the number of deaths in britain. Why we get so much heartfelt your wife's increasing foreign percent faster than any other heart disease. Why do we have so much cancer now. When i went to medical school one percent in twelve got cancer nearly seventy now. It's less than one and two i mean why do we have so many <hes> we disturbed sexual orientation people now that are there are basically being feminist males or we have the presence of seattle westerns and our and our environment why recycling toxic water that's getting in our food supply and now even you know odyssey trump was good at some things but other things he's nydia pushing recycle toxic water. Was you know you know birth control pill and and industrial waste and doping agents microchips pushing sulfide which when you're hearing this concentrate by your kidneys dissolve steel and even porcelain pushing five d'you network that pushes out <hes> he talks that shut down your genes in fact i know and i know the science how to make a face ray directed energy weapon and it's all based on mineral residents rated weapon at you as a mineral resin say of mercury i can shut down your metabolism seconds and you'll have an immediate surge of superoxide brock's dismutase. It'll kill you know dr deal you can't do that. Yes i can actually and i know 'cause i work with guys working classified projects and the n._s._a. And classified projects. I know what they're all up to take people with really high q. over one eighty and sold them and don't have any ethics some good the ones with no essex. They get promoted to have an unending budget. Do whatever the hell please and there's no restraint whatsoever darpa for example even as a vaccine against the god gene by shutting down the in miscellaneous l. d. s. partly receptor in your brains. You don't wanna have a higher purpose in your life. They can do this now. They've handed over ten years. We've not god gene vaccine. Do you know that diggle you can't you can't know all this stuff. I will only release enough information. I won't have view if you're not saved. Commit suicide because if you're not a saved person you listen everything. I say you just think well most people say well. He's just not no. I'm not just not you know and the problem is i've been through god allow me to go through a personal hell and see a lot of things first-hand secondhand and have the intelligence is to absorb it and have what deficiency what's called the shut up gene. I don't have one. I'm not afraid of the public or a million people in front of me. I'm not afraid of people challenging because i want to be taught. If someone's got great three and a good logic and evidence i want to learn but i have very few callers intellectually challenged me asking me questions or anything because literally i have the intellectual and spiritual ability to answer any question on any topic in the world instantly or breakdown a problem to its constituent parts. I don't know anybody that has that ability but i do and i'm showing right now. Because this is the end of human history. We're about to transition to an age where they're going to genetically modify caste system. Humans get get rid of mostly human population replacing what i call cyber which are human embryos ronin laboratories in connected to the supernet be part robot if you don't think that we're heading toward blade runner and much worse you're an idiot we are and it's not waiting decades a lotta. These things have been done in the past. I took care of <hes> super. Soldiers were actually taking being being developed by the u._s. Military general poindexter destroy to hold them. I took care of actually show them. Personally doctor and one guy got genetically ackley operated in six months after he had taken the genetic modification allows colleagues they had terrible bone pain but most of them drew much larger he put on one hundred pounds of body mass and six inches in height and a lot of these guys got so depressed by what was going on with their body. They committed suicide so people's dr diggle oh honey and all that stuff i said god had my daytime and let me tell you what i know. You do not want to know not unless you really saved by the blood of jesus really ask stuff and you're not gonna hear this stuff in any other show. Non coast to coast rents network. You're not gonna hear it on republic radio. You're not gonna hear this stuff anywhere else. You're gonna hear from eagle and my co host like dr betty is probably the most intelligent person on aspirin toxic sweeteners of death and she has a bevy of really brilliant doctors like yourself self dr hewlett dr monty many others and the problem. Is this keeps marching forward. I don't see any stalling at all. The toxic sweetener marched you there culminating if you don't need to hack into the niassa hebrew for the temple in our consciousness if you don't think that they're knocking down the door of the battering ram is things like aspartame the batter down the ramp of your cortex if you don't think they want to reduce human fertility when you hear the demon wrap saying that we need to reduce human fertility because the world will not survive these devils honestly that's what they are these millions of satan and and these ignorance so call pretend m._d.'s p._h._d.'s. They're marching like lemmings over the cliff and if you don't if you wanna spit only the messenger passenger again. I'm a man of spittle. I don't care but i'm gonna tell you. The truth. Rates the last moment my last oxygen molecules my last night account. I will tell you the truth and the problem is that they have made exactly they most.

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Episode 132 The Yarn Wall

The Moratorium

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Episode 132 The Yarn Wall

"Hey Phil Freak stirs. It's Tim the moratorium just here to remind you that if you enjoy what you hear please like Shirin subscribe then Rinse and repeat we're just a couple of small town nerds trying to make sweet geek love to your ear holes and we can use your support. Check out our website for movie reviews links to social media, merch movies, and more. You can find us at the moratorium dot Com. Now, that's out of the way on what the Shenanigans. Welcome to the yarn wall a mini moratorium I'm your host Tim Cornerman on this episode Jason and I take a long drunken dive into the depths of IMDB. This is where we break down the last week's film and follow the yarn to make the thinnest and slightest connection to our next movie. It's kind of like six degrees of Kevin Bacon game with slurred speech and Double Vision, which can only explain the sudden jump into the middle of the thread of the conversation. That is the yarn wall. She. Looks like she's rated apart. Get outta here. Baby. Bernie. I'll have some of this. Yeah. He gets pimp slap. Busy. floozy food. Let me just check my levels a little bit. I mean, as long as you don't change anything I think we'll be just fine because. Really, the only thing I, could do is pop this little knob out of place but it's Pop My knob out of PLO dude you're just getting ready to say it. Guess maybe. I don't think a KNOB is an American. That's like a British thing. You're not a set right? Yeah, I've got a couple of British people I'm going to talk about today. Yeah interesting and some people who might not be British that I'm just going to use a British accent when I talk about I'm. Sure want to do that. My British accent is probably better than my normal voice. How are you with a Cajun accent? Len's type you do that now every time I, do I just go back to hard target? Oh. Van Damme doing them. He just says, Gumbo like not wait a minute. His is named Gumbo or something. Oh No. No No. No. Luckily, either they website that will tell me. About it. Out What he? What was his name chance his name hands I think his last name unless unless that's just something that Michael and I made up my momma took one vendor exactly. Yeah that. So I'm on hard target here and he's not on their. Voices on there. They have removed him from the movie. There is he's halfway down this chance Bordeaux. Outlets got an RN. How do you even pronounce that? Boo Drop Boudreau Yara Boudreau. Boudreau. Use had the say like about now. Yeah. I think that was the dog's name and. Grosse Pointe Blank that he assassinated. Fairly. Sure. Fairly certain. I didn't realize Arnold Vosloo is in this since we just talked about him. Oh, the guy from the money, the mummy series of movies. Yeah. His completely forgotten those movies. I just had to make sure that his name his last name was not Gumbo like. Mean even then that would have been like mangams is not even trying anymore for Brim lease in that movie I is hit Lance. Henriksen that movie. Lansing since like one of the the bad guys you know it's like a out of be hunted. Oh that's right. The gas can and shoots it in the air. Okay. Michael and I always came back with the how does it feel to be stupid? Yeah. Tell me. Explain. It's like I you know what's worse than stallone just yelling everything he says it's a French like stallone yelling everything. Even. More incomprehensible. Imagined, those two in a movie together, you'd need the subtitles to be on stallone and Frank Stallone. Yes. That's what that's what he's known as the French loan. Little. Known facts you can only get right here. I think van Damme might even be a better actor install who share. His movies are Stinky Stinky. Judge. DREDD was on Youtube for summaries. I wasn't watching it and I was listening to him in Armand Asante yelling at each other. and. It's bad. Oh, real. Bad can't even understand what he's saying. Is just screaming at the top of his lungs. I am the law. That that line in particular is a real bad for only when you can comprehend without. But that you remember he told Barbara Walters that they had to pull him out with the tongs and that's why his face Smith read is that they have to use the salad tongs Yup. Wilford grimly spin only. Thorson. Ted Ramey is in it for God's Sakes. Wolfer. Bramley. I think he. Hears a bow and Arrow, and Remember when Wolford Brindley like attack somebody with a suitcase in the firm kinky actually like somebody the depth of a suitcase. In the NC Butler. Yeah and the reason I know who that is she was in which blade. Your wife and I watched that show detective Sarah Pez Zini. Pez Her nickname I guess because nobody wanted to say Pizani the Great Zini sounds delicious. How stow on him anyway any. Wow. Now, three of my tabs are Yancy Butler related. Didn't think we were. Never. Know exactly. We never know where we're going ahead. And we never know when we're going to say, Hey, welcome to the yarn wall. I'm your host Tim cornermen. And with me as always is. Jason. Walker. Jay DUBB's. Have just. Chatting about hard target. You know winter we not talking about hard target I'm dreaming about it when we're not talking about it, I've a few things I want to talk about. All right and I, know we have some grievances brought it up before I. Know we have. But it's because I get. Craig. Shaffer. And Brian Krause mixed up who's Brian Krause Brian Krause was in sleep walkers. Okay. Okay. Yes. That is the only movie that I know him from has he been another thing? Yes. Actually I watched something there was something on yesterday that while I was nursing a hangover I caught part of. and. The perfect I'm tough for that to happen and it was called exactly already fucking laws and one of the tabs that's open, right? Yeah. I'm looking at he's got actually a hundred seventeen credits. No Shit looking at him I, I I'm like, okay he was on charmed and I know who is now Craig? Sheffer was on charmed, right? No no no. Ryan Krause See. That's why no man I think it's because night breed did the way that was. Like the only thing I really know from Craig Shaffer but looking through his shit I'm like holy crap I know these movies wasn't in unnecessary roughness no, the program, the program, a less funny football movie. Yeah. that was then this is now yes, that was in this was now that's Emilio Estevez okay, and it says to juvenile delinquents find themselves growing apart one is growing up and the other is staying young and reckless it has Ramon Estevez in. A little known Kim Delaney. I don't know who that is. RAMONA's to this. Yeah. We talked about him when we went down. Estevez. Family stick I mean tree. But. He only has like a couple of credits mean actor twenty, one credits. Other Ramon is not a well known as Kaz he lives with Joe have an apart. But that was then this is now is thousand nine, hundred, five Morgan Freeman's in this okay. Now wait a minute I have to say wait a minute again are we talking about? Krause. Or Craig. Shaffer this is Craig. Schaefer. Z. In it now now I'm getting you confused yes but it seems like on purpose. But you know. Well I was just looking at that was then this is now because I remember seeing the box for it. I. Never saw the movie it was an se hidden novel. Estevez wrote the screenplay oh I think I. Yeah. It's interesting. Shit third credit down is Larry. B. Okay, go ahead and Click on him if you want to and the first thing you'll think of when you see his face is how little Omay Lamar. Okay. Grim revenge of the nerds this the second and last movie he was in right Now as sixty six credits. He was one of the fighters in the karate kid at the tournament Ok I'm like, wow, man he was in space camp and I was like Oh crap Lamar Lewis. Yes. Okay. All right. He was in another stakeout. For you that's all for you. Maggie, basically just rolling the cursor around and whatever else on. He was in the Iron Eagle. Lamar. Craig Shaffer Lamar. Okay. You're changing gears on I can't keep up. The mouse clicks on this episode are GonNa be. So loud. Okay. This is talk about Craig's Shaffer and Bryan Cranston. Who Do you want first I want. CRAG. Names Craig. Craig. He did a voice in Teen Wolf Cartoon. Good Okay. What is voyage of the Rock Aliens? I saw that I clicked on it. L.. I remember that I actually remember that shit he is the Dora Tom Nolan I, think the reason I know it is because it's got a really cool cover and like I probably watched the movie once the never it looks bizarre I mean when you've got Ruth Gordon playing the Sheriff Yeah Michael Berryman is just playing a guy named chainsaw. Cool. So he is not been pigeonholed into anyone role. You know he's a versatile actor I. Love Him. So no never saw this movie voyage of the Rock Aliens, but I had to click through it just to see. Some kind of wonderful right I remember that and all that was before night breen. Yes. Of course. Yes. See now catching up to you that was then this is how I remember that box art for that was in. This is now okay Larry B. Scott yes. ECHO come on Hey, they are Hayden he was in a movie called split the citizens with Gene Hackman and Jeff. Fahey. Boxing movie. I'll right, right right yeah. But I've never seen this one. I like my boxing movies too. Yeah. Sure. Digs town. So we have a river runs through it fire in the Sky I. Mean He's been around I always say, yeah, he's one of a DB's friends. Yeah. I just watched that scene. You know where DB is tied to. They put that wet sheet over his face in a brief says they put like a giant condom on him and Stuff in his mouth. Really growth it is very jarring. I don't know how to feel about that movie. It's equal amounts. You kind of get what you want, but it's Kinda boring bit goes on for a minute. Yeah Okay. So sleep with me. Nineteen. ninety-four. Craig Schafer's like ride in my sweet spot for all this bullshit. Love. Clive Barker loved night breed. But he's in sleep with me. And I don't know why it must have been just on cable TV. Love. I can't say that I've seen it. It's. I think this is the movie that has that weird scene. Think. That's it. We're Quentin Tarantino shows up at a party. Okay and you talked about that the guy that wants to be a screen writer director whatever they just kind of chat briefly in a kitchen i. think maybe you're right I'm flipping through here Joey Lauren Adams Parker, Posey June Lockhart. There's Quentin Tarantino down bottom as. I thought. That checks out. Yeah, anyway. He's like smart correct. That because he's got tiny little like wire glasses. Not that he's dumb anything just seems like he always plays. kind of a really found like just calling him out now just saying he's usually cast as a jock in these movies. So if you go back to looking at Brian Krause Dan he doesn't have such great is not I mean he's got tons of credits don't get me wrong but maybe he just doesn't stand out. He's one hundred seventeen credits, but it doesn't stand out in type of movies that we liked to watch. So and sleep walkers would have been that movie and I don't think it did very well of course, went to the theater to see it you now. There's something real I mean they're whole relationship, the mom and the son is just bizarre. and. I maybe I just like had that in the back of my mind the whole time. So weird movie does have MoD Shin Omic NFL. Slow figured out how to say her name. I was one of these days. Somebody's GONNA come to correct us all our name I think I'm saying I think heard it said before in its Majdan. Noga but you can just say it all as one and it sounds like. Like reaganomics or something. He was in return to the Blue Lagoon. How many movies have they done? Just all in all about the Blue Lagoon I think there's just to. Make a series out of it. Is it always incests I think. So there's a TV movie blue lagoon, the awakening. That is just they're not even trying anymore. They're just saying there's GONNA. Be Some young kids onscreen in little clothing. Here's something I did not know. The Blue Lagoon was a nineteen, forty, nine film same story same story. In the Victorian period two children are ship direct on tropical islands South Pacific Fall, in love while growing up together. Did I just make the part about them being brothers sister. I think there was something like that. They're like cousins maybe maybe I'm just thinking of flowers in the attic. Well. Hey. Let's not forget Brian Krause has Jackson slate in. The side and wreck. That looks like one of those asylum movies like a shark NATO or something you. Okay. Looks, awful. But the movie I watched last night. Or yesterday knit was. It was supposed to be like a haunted house type story it just. Wasn't very interesting but they had a it's called be afraid. That's what it was. Two thousand seventeen. I've seen this setting many times now that there is an old I think they're saying it was a train track tunnel. Okay going into the side of a mountain. There's some kind of creepy things going on but nothing spectacular. They talk they talk about the things that you can see in your periphery and not. O K I, kind of like that. Is just going GONNA. Say like trains going into tunnels. Nuts like Quinn. To people that you want to get together are like finally make it to the bedroom and then. Start to get a little intimate in that just cuts away to like. Oil drilling or something. Hotdogs being made. So he was in a movie called. Cocoon the BOOGEYMAN Kokos McCoy. I also trying to pronounce that. What was the the demon thing in the outsider? It was Elka Coy or something like that airlines. Will you read by look? Yeah. But that's not in it. They just made that up for the TV show thing. That thing doesn't have a name really I don't think no game. I thought they talked about Cuco because she brought up the films in this is in the book. Oh, right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I I see what you mean but the I get it. But maybe not the same thing. That's just what I thought when I saw that was yeah Alco. Right. Okay do we have our? Brian Krause Craig Schafer's. I think we've reached out. Okay. Yeah. I mean the main things you need no or night breed and. Sleep walkers. OSCE that now Cuckoo Cuckoo Cuckoo. Just A. Couple of great guys. All right. Clicking him hand watch hard target. I don't know how that was part of the discussion. Swatch it. GOES BACK TO ARNOLD. Vosloo, which was Wollen away off the trail always get back to. Have you forgotten his name Addy said Vosloo boss Lou. Who Man? I was going down some different paths. Just looking at some different things I came across. You know how we talk about typecast characters often, and there's a guy by the name of Joseph Whip. Whip W. H. i. p. p.. And K., who it looks like he's been typecast as. A freaking cop so many times, cops and guards his like profile picture. IMDB is he kind of looks like bill from King of the Hill Yeah. Picture Him. So I can't really place. Who is yeah I don't recognize it. It's a current picture, but you see the picture has an autograph on it. Really it sure as shit does I didn't see that he wrote to himself. I'm sure I get here. Joseph. Thank you for being such a good fan. Signed. Mr Whip. He's like a frame. He's been in a lot of TV job. Yeah. A lot of TV but a lot of West craven stuff too. Okay. Yeah. So he was Sergeant Parker and nightmare on ELM street. But he also showed up and like. He was to. In chiller okay and I guess I didn't realize that was a TV movie. I know we talked about this just re says we did. But I don't remember. What we settled on, there is a little chunk of his credits in the eighties that are like, wow. I know all of those movies beyond being in. dukes of HAZZARD HILLSTREET BLUES SCARECROW Mr King Moonlighting Highway to heaven twilight zone. Wow. Stir crazy series. I don't remember that I don't either that was nineteen, eighty five. Why did they make a series out of that? Van I've seen that movie Salvini Damn Fonz. Guy. So. But if you scroll up a little bit to the mid eighties myths or late eighties. Golden Girls. Disorder. LEASE COP number one. In, disorderly. I had to explain disorder disorderly to my wife just last night. And? Her is just kind of Glasgow. Oh, I know why it was because that guy from. General Hospital. That's like the worm he Is He guys, son I don't remember but he was on soap operas like forever. Talking, about from General Hospital a guy named Anthony Geary. Get Nothing. That's him Yep Hey. Winslow lowery. I, remember that name I've seen this movie sometimes. I loved this movie. I didn't realize he was also in UHF. Right. I think I saw disorder lease. This is about the time when the there was a single movie theater and Talla. And that's what we did I mean we just walked into town and whatever was playing. Yeah. Between what was at the movies across the street to the arcade that's where I spent all my time at sounds like a good time. It was I just saw a bunch of shit that nobody else wanted to see. Right and this I'm sure was one of them. Yeah. he was also in the hidden. Yes. I, need to revisit this movie. I have watched it recently and can confirm that it is still a good movie. Awesome. That's what I wanted to hear now my love for. Claudia. Christian agent Cooper well, maybe hurts him Kyle mclachlan comic Lachlan might have something to do with why dodges? and Michael Nori, I got him mixed up with the COP from twin peaks can't think of his name Eva, Clue Luger's in that by the way. Not to be confused with Clue Gallagher. Who is a real estate guy and Austin Texas good? The Hidden Chock full of some character actors Lynch Shea is in the home my God she'd be young. She's never been young who wrote that because that is the craziest the written by. Jim couth as Bob. Hunt that. Of Hunt sounds a lot like a some kind of porn Guess He created Grimm TV series. Okay. Oh, my God. As. Bob Hunt he wrote. The bogans? Are you kidding me I am not kidding he also wrote. Up The creek what? IMDB. It's like I am DB has become self aware and is just fucking with the yes. Exactly. They'll never find him. He wrote another stakeout my God did we need to stop the podcast right now and talk? He he wrote the original stakeout to secret admirer God class. What are the fucking chances? How did we not know this guy? Because he wrote national treasure, he wrote rush hour couve. Man That's insane. The hidden to I don't know if I knew I knew there was a sequel I've never seen it up the creek, the hidden stakeout. Going on here the bogans. When are you going to? When are we GONNA do that? Soon not next week but soon okay. I was just looking at a secret admirer not too long ago because that was that was Kelly Preston we lost her this year. Yeah. God See Thomas how Lori Loughlin Kelly Preston, D Wallace Cliff de Young Fred Ward Casey Semaska. Courtney, gains man Corey Hayme all in secret. Admire. That's in secret. Admire how? See I feel like that's a movie that I watched a lot on cable back in the day and may because it had a John Hughes feel to it but it wasn't a John Hughes Film. Yeah. But like slightly horn ear I think that's the that separate. Some of those movies is I don't think John Hughes ever made it Horny. That she could easily have. Oh, easily Yeah. That's crazy. Now I, WanNa, Watch secret admire the put this guy back on the radar Jim couth. Yeah thanks Jim giving us a lot of Fuckin- coal movie. Exactly. And dig it. All right. I have no idea where where were we? Disorderly, oh, that was a little bit ago. Tony Plana played Mikhail in the searchers I really liked him. He is He's The dad and ugly Betty. My wife's got addicted to ugly betty a few months ago and I basically watched all of a mother. It's really good. But yeah. He's dad and resent not a chick from. Superstore yes it is. Yeah. America Ferrera. There's a the of her name, it's either rare or Ferrera. A at the end of it. That means anything never watched. Shirley good. She's awesome. Take your word for it. So it's super store it's funny to I've watched most of those are hey, I am clicking off Joseph Whip I just wanted to bring him because you know typecast characters hang on just a second before it closed these out. What does the C in? C. Thomas Health Stanford. Click on him. This is not A. We're not playing a game here. This isn't funny. Stop laughing because this is funny I need to know this. Christopher. Hoping it would be like Cra Goria or something something. Really Weird. Rag Transylvanian Conrad would have been good. I said contract but. I'm sorry I thought your. besmirching. His name. Rag. Think I know what that is now. The more I think about it and you disgust me Sir it's all British. I'm GonNa say something that you are either going to be like, yeah of course or what the fuck he was married to raid on Sean. Did He? I read that just recently I did not know that. There's a lot of weird marriages in Hollywood that have lasted just a small amount of time. Yeah. Exactly. For us to make fun of what if he had changed his name when they got married and it'd be. Rig Thomas Hal Dawn Chong. On some of the guys do that. In Hollywood, he was almost MARDI MC fly in back to the future how going back to read I just saw this earlier Greg Schaffer. wasn't married, but he had a daughter with Gabrielle Anwar who really yeah. Job, Craig. Yes. Probably a good looking kid to names. Yeah Willow Willow Anwar. It's a fun name. In a lot of fun names today. googlers still is probably the number one and. For some reason I came across just looking at other people here Charles Bronson. Because I've never really looked up Charles Bronson before. Only thing I know about him as he was roommates with Jack Klugman. Yes. Just, read Bat. Literally the only thing I know about he was once considered for the lead role in Conan, the barbarian watts. INSEE which role because the lead in my book would have been. Arnold Schwarzenegger. Yes most people would say that he is the star of the his the titular star of the film. Barbarian of isn't titular barbarian he he was once considered for the role of snake PL- ISKIN. Interested Carpenter felt that he was too old and too tough codified. That would have been a really dark film if it hadn't been Kurt Russell. It, literally would have been five minutes long because he just walks up shoots everybody. Everybody tested and read for Christopher Reeves role in Superman. Oh you mean, Superman. Playing coy on air. We know fucking. Super. but that would have been a much different movie oh. Yes. Especially when he has a full mustache. And A gun. That is literally what would have happened? Yes. You got laser sight. Coming everybody with a three, fifty seven. He's not a good actor Charles Bronson. No, you don't think. I guess death wish is like the only. I guess it's my favorite movie that he's now that's not true. He's in. Once upon a time in the West which is the most Razi brutal movie. he turned down the titular. It actually says this. Thank you. I am to be a turned down the role of the titular character's father in billy. Madison. So, who is the father I don't know if I've ever seen that movie I am not a huge Adamson's Darren mcgavin. Wasn't really. UK. All right. Anyway I thought that was funny. He was considered for Gregory Peck's roles and Cape Fear and the omen. He was going to be the DAD and Cape Fear Yet nineteen sixty to cape fear. I mean. He made a lot of money. It looks like out of. All the death wish movies fought dude there's like six of them. Yeah. And it said he made five million to six million dollars for death. Wish Five. Jesus and Nineteen, seventy five when he did hard times a million dollars another boxing. Wow. Really. I don't think I've ever seen that death wish he was paid a million dollars. That was nineteen, seventy four. A made a ton of money. It did say that he left five forty, five, million dollars in his estate so. was considered to replace John Wayne and rooster cogburn again. Not about this billy crystal claim that Bronson was offered the role of curly in city slick now's Zad I bought. Is a very like. Him Jack Plants could have like a growl off you know. Just see ears and years in cartons and cartons of unfiltered cigarettes how and it says here yes, he was an. It was an avid smoker. He was a fan of smoking. Yes. It was one of its bigger. Proponents he was a cigarette proponent He died of lung cancer, COPD congestive cardiomyopathy, and respiratory failure says body basically said Fuck this I'm Don. Don. It says right here that he was considered for the role of a Ferris Bueller. So I think the thank. You know. Against playing against type. All right clicking off Charles Bronson. Thank goodness. We talk a little bit about gargoyles because ice I should i. Really kind of disappointed for the the lack of Diana's. End The podcast. Thought about that too. That was just the joke from that movie for years and years and. But now I'm I'm I'm torn because knowing that it was vic Perrin's voice and Burning Casey's voice. The movie have been. If, they use Bernie. Casey's voice would have been like a blaxploitation. Him slapping that old gargoyles on the ass as like that's just a taste of what you get. Is like get out of your baby see lady. This other young toxic does not go into those eggs I'll be on. That is weird and it does kind of change my like perspective of the film. A little bit. A little bit not a lot. Are we to assume that gargoyles lay eggs now? Some big fucking eggs to. There are a lot of questions about that which she was the only female, right? Unless one of the babies were female and so you're thinking like. I mean like eggs don't get bigger. You know what? I mean the thing inside gets bigger than busts out bread. So it's not like she had little chicken eggs in the grew into those big things. That is what I'm thinking here so. I mean, that's like alien You know the Queen Alien like Philo plan to is like a you know. A meter wide. Yeah exactly. Covered in, slime. Anyway. Anyway. I just thought of that and I thought it was a little a nervous to think that something that big would come out of a gargoyles. Butthole is going to say. Look in a gargoyles maybe appreciate Scott Glen a little bit more. I. Love Scott Glen Rugged handsomeness. Yeah he's eighty one years old probably his best role I think was silenced lambs yet. My wife was watching that just the other day that he also play him in. We'll see it was was he in Hannibal wait a minute now cast change for them. Exactly. Pretty. Damn. Versatile actor you know he's liking his volt beginning career was like kinda rough around the edges you know bad boy kind of thing, and then he just aged into cops I guess Jack Crawford with played by Dennis Farina. And the main in manhunt and manhunter. Yes. Okay. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, didn't Harvey Keitel Play Jack Crawford. In Hannibal. Was it an Hannibal I could not tell you scrolling through scrolling through. Or maybe I was reading that. Crawford does not show up in Hannibal maybe in the book he's not in the movie I love silence of the lambs and not real crazy about I. Mean I do like Manhunter? Who's that Michael Man? That did this. Correct and yes Harvey Cartel Played Jack Crawford and Red Dragon. Okay I. Was Looking Up Frankie is I'm already there dude I wanted to see if he was. You know the guy from scrubs dad ever watched scrubs mom says names FIS on. I don't see anything. I. Don't either maybe that's say. I've never heard that name before I guess is why I looked at him Gotcha. But Frankie he appeared and all of the Hannibal movies. Except for Hannibal rising, which was the origin story, right? At Ya yes. It would have really weird if he would have shown up there. Yeah. He's in white chicks. That is a disturbing. Seeing them in makeup like that is very disturbing. Yeah I like him a lot. He's in quite a few things oh. Of course he was in do the right thing. He's been in some TV and do you remember? Hawk. The kind of sexually called a man called Hawk yes. Like these spin off of Spencer for Gotcha. Yeah. Everybody liked that guy's in his name as Avery Brooks. Dude I love Spenser for hire. Robert Jewelry. alrich. Sure. Let's not get mired down in TV. I'm still looking at manhunter because it's just such a good movie. Yeah. I need to see that one again and forever made. Tom Noonan a creep avoid is not going to play a heartthrob or anything anytime soon now, I need to look at his career some more we might be able to do a deep dive on over. Sure. 'cause I was flipping back and forth, just trying to find my guy. I will say and manhunter though I really did enjoy William Petersen playing well Graham. Yeah. He's like perfect. That's exactly who I think when I read that book. But as per the character. Going straight into my deep dive. I WanNa talk about Hugh Dancy. Hugh Dancy played will Graham and the TV series of Hannibal. Okay, have you ever seen this? So you've never it is worthy. It is damn worthy. mads Mikkelsen is the Hannett at first. It took me a minute to get used to him. And he he won me over was he was incredible for being like an I. think it was a prime time series on like one of the major networks what you know, but it was pushing the boundaries for grotesque nece yet or grotesque after. Is. This seems like there's too many S.'s in that grotesques in this. Yeah. You're definitely putting an extra essence. Okay. For Your Basic you know big three it was really pushing the boundaries. Our I don't think I realized I figured it was like a fx show or something where they can show gross stuff not you'd think. It was very well done and Hugh Dancy. Really does a great job playing will Graham? He is unstable. Yeah and it a plays it so well yeah I highly recommend it go. he's been in a few things back down the list here he was in Black Hawk down that seems to be the only one that I had no impact I think. He was in King Arthur Oh. Yeah. Was that another TV show now that was a movie. Oh, with Clive Owen right right right and mads was in that as well. Joel Edgerton right Ray Stevenson. Kiera Knightley. Yeah Ray Stevens. Guitar Man. That's Stevenson. There's a stellar skateboard is in there. I'll right. So Ray winstone I forgot about Raewyn they and I love that dude haven't seen him in a mental health is so good in everything sexy beast. Yes. As a regularly So this is your guy. So, this is my guy. Hugh Dancy a Brit a Brit. Is that. Okay. I think that's more than. Okay. He played the voice of Edgar Allan Poe, and this is a biography. Of L. ED girl. IMPO-. That wraps around his most famous tells and several this poems. I would be very interested in listening. Yeah. Sure. If you can say listening to it, right it's animated. Our in thirty minutes, interesting Alfred Molina he plays a whipsnade in a segment so You're to say whip steeler. All. Primarily, what I think is but hugh dancy also, he was in our idiot brother which. I've seen that. I've seen it not not a great measure my but but. See he was in a series just recently called the path. which was kind of a religious cult. Type thing. I've seen most of it. and. It's good but it's also one of those I don't know when you start dancing around religious crap at it starts. Sometimes, it gets a little old but has Michelle mcgann. Aaron Paul is in it and Hugh. Dancy. Those year three front runners right there. It was a good series. I don't know that I ever finished it. So onto some of the Trivia. For talented Brit Hugh Dancy. HIS NICKNAME IS FANCY DANCY I. I probably could have guessed that if you give me just. Horse's name is fancy dancing. And he just has to go home crying wet crumpled on his face. little thing I didn't know He's married to Claire Danes what. He has trademark is delicate asymmetrical features. Mellow soothing, voice. Cascading Curls soulful blue is air and I'm I'm getting hard just thinking about it. and He's good looking. So. Looks like the version of the guy from mindhunter. man I can't wait until that series comes back out. Yeah, the path actually looks Kinda. Cool. Homeland which everybody says great. Never seen it never seen it. It looks like the male version of the girl from stranger things the kind of. says. Small little face. Then go sure. It. Says here he was he auditioned to play Hannibal Lecter and Hannibal rising. So very interesting interesting little thing. He's an avid collector of fake hands. Okay crate his fascination started after having seen a set of wooden hands on a film set. Hey So that's kind of narrowing. Yeah, I mean if there's ever you know. A murder spree involving people that are missing their hands it's like. He just shows up at the precinct be like it's it's me. You guys were going to get eventually anyway. So I just figured. Would help you guys out I did it. There's a whole box of hands on my trout, just box a hand. seriously. Does that I've strange stumbled into acting at the age of thirteen after being sent to the school theater as punishment for misbehaving school. Basically everybody was calling him fancy dancy and just. He was voted prettiest boy and previous girl can college. Yeah. So no problem there the hand things fine. Everything's fine. He's definitely definitely does not need psychiatric help. The law going to make. Just, a really well rounded person. Fancy Dancy having pains, and Just. And last but not least, he was considered for the role of Batman and Batman begins okay. Anything her. Sorry I've never seen those movies. I. Just can't can't do it. I don't know why do Christian Bell Batman Oh. I. Don't know just has no have all the things you refused to watch. Yeah, I guess yeah, I mean you'll watch of green gables but you will watch that may I? I've now a fan of green gables had like Ninja, stars in her knickers or something that would be goal to. The idea of. I just don't. But I liked the idea of anti-green cable stars better. Let's write that right now. Stop. The CAST. All right. So Hugh Dancy. I, just that he he should be rallied around I. think he has a good career started. You know he is born in seventy five. He's about your age. Andy's. British. And Good luck as he. He's not British in Hannibal as or does he have a British accent and Hannibal? America's. American accent now gotch and same thing with the path. They're lot of guys like that that you find out there like British or Australian any like some of them were like really and some are like, yeah, we know he he he has to play a redneck because that's the only way that he can. You know kind of mask his accent. Unfortunately, we cannot play British actors. Yeah It just comes off sounding really really bad. We're not skinny and tall enough either. Pale and our pel enough see you got curly locks fancy dancy was also in. Basic instinct to. Really. Oh, yeah. I've never seen it. I don't know why I mean it's still sharing stone I. Guess She's like you know nobody's talking about my Kuch anymore I gotta start another one of these films Navy. Also had David Morrissey in it David Morrissey was He played the governor in. Walking. Dead But also a British guy, right with A. Cracker. Accent. No I guess he did have sort of an accent but really. And David, through lists was also an basic instinct to. Never my British guys here that's a lot of face. A lot of face foodless has. At least two peoples faces on his. I like him a lot. He's still I. Guess he just does. British. But now he's actually going to be in Avatar two and three God. Why are they making those movies? I don't know nobody is excited about. Mean we'll go and see them properly. But it's not like I. Don't know I could not tell you one thing about Avatar. The avatar world share, you can their blue. Mean sure you can. You can talk about Avatar basically because Stephen Lang. That's all. Yeah. Guess Stephen Lanes bad ass. Robot fights art something close the door on Hugh. Hewitt will see again, I'm sure by fancy dancy. By Ansley VNC throwing a biscuit later. The crowd goes lethargic. So Did you say during that last segment? Did you ever say here's your one chance fancy don't let me down. Did you say or my just imagine. You're just imagining that Lisette at somebody had to say okay. It had to be said I feel like he's GonNa come up again. You think so fancy dance I mean he hasn't been in a whole lot of stuff. But I. Think he's GonNa come back around anyway I. Think he's recycle. He's got a long career ahead. Oh. Yeah. Of A hand collector. Yeah. Heels of a hand. It could be hand Hans Gruber, it could be handled. To one or the other. I think it has to be able. Alma God that'd be a real rabbit hole like, okay. There is this movie and it inspired the actor to become a serial killer but the Punti name. Mo Ray LIOTTA STRAIGHT UP GETS HIS BRAINS EATEN IN THAT MOVIE Oh. Yeah and Fed to him. Yeah. Right and roasted slightly and fencing. Beautiful. All right. Are you ready to try out this new thing? Yes shirt. All right. So possible news segment. Impossible it's a new segment. We're going to try out here. Yeah. It might just be once new said. But. Yeah I don't know had introduced it this just. Cuban music Yeah Yeah Cue the music. Musical interlude. Can you sing for me a little lovable little. mind. That's your new band. Everybody. Yeah. So we were just thinking that we wanted to separate little segment. That might you know? His we typically focus on you know actors. When we do those dies will. This is you know? This could be a lot of different things. It could be you know. The cast the crew. Special Effects Anything. It's Literally the Goulash. Episode. It's like the Goulash you just throw a bunch of shit NEPAD peanut butter raw. impossibly on noodle or to. Noodle fun noodles the leftover vegetables a you didn't finish off dinner. That'd be cruel if like all your leftovers or just like. In its tupperware and your mom major eat at the end of the. Horror Movie. That's what we need to be. Okay so I this the reason. I. Had to look this guy up and I've known about a lot of this stuff for a long time. I. Got some I got some more little details now. It's a guy that had a vision of of you know sugarplum fairies you just really wanted to make some horror movies with zero budget. So his name is. Don Dahler. We brought him up before yes. But. I mean as movies are basically like they're super eight movies and they they look like home movies. Basically, you know quality's not great. But. What it lacks in quality is just his. Newsy Azam for it's got a lot of really young inventive special effects. I. What movie in particular you talking about? Well, all of them. All of them have his. Style I guess the Alien Factor Nineteen Seventy eight being as I. Am Not as I. I think fiend is his first actual movie. No, it's listed in nineteen eighty the alien factor was seventy eight right. But I remember seeing the box art for the alien factor never ever watched it. Okay. I see yes seventy eight and then feign does this his second movie Wow. So like alien factors, my favor one out of the three that I've seen, they typically have a roster of his like friends and family that are acting in the movie. Anyway from Baltimore, started making movies in the in the sixties just kind of experimenting with like Subaru and stuff like that, and he also had a magazine called cinematic. It sounds fabulous. Yes and I've had a couple of these that you know. I picked up from comic bookstores and stuff and basically they're like They're kind of little how to guides four amateur filmmakers that might not have a lot of money. So they've got to create their own effects and you know we're. Shots and stuff and I looked at a couple of these and They really do have like step by step instruction for young filmmakers and they're really they're they're awesome I mean I would like to just have some just to have around you know because the covers are always really cool interesting. Yeah. So check those out at I. Think they actually have some of that are like scans you know online that you can recur. So I. The first time I ever heard of him was looking up There's an MS called pod people I. Mean you're probably familiar with well, I don't know the exact story but for some reason, a guy like bought up a bunch of of these old kind of B. Movies and the opening and ending credits are scenes from another movie. I still do not understand the purpose of this. So, pod people which as far as I know has nothing to do with Don dolar no I can't seem to find anything either I was like, where are you going with this counselor? The opening of pod people is kind of a slow down what are they call it like posters -ation it's got some weird effect on the scenes of you're watching. So as the credits are rolling it showing scenes from a movie called Galaxy Invader which Don Dahler also did has nothing to do with the rest of the movie there just. As, opening and. I can't imagine why they would do galaxy invader I remember this box. Yes I gotta read this off. An alien is hunted by a gang of drunken hillbillies. Who saw him crash land is spaceship. That is the most succinct. Accurate. Description of a movie ever that is exactly what happens is awesome. I WanNa see I feel like I could make a movie now that was the plot to and. Have a lot of fun with that Oh. You know what? I mean Bet Oh my God dude a Mauve, a drunken mov drunken hillbilly mob, and then Baltimore can you imagine that? Anyway. So he put out this MAG which looks very The ones I'm seeing it's eventually sold them off the star log, but they started the scenes. You know I think he was like binding his own little feing and then eventually came up with enough money to actually you know. But that thing out very interesting. So, he's only had about you know ten movies. Yeah. It went to two, thousand, seven. He actually died in two, thousand six that is I did not know that that's what I was just looking for. That's why it says here in his bio, he began eight millimeter shorts. The A twelve dollar also published a mad magazine type off called wild. Never heard of that. Now, it says here he was the Creator editor of Cinematic magazine, which later sold the Star Law Group also created Amazing Cenema and movie club magazines US and vaguely remember movie club. I don't remember any of those. So I mean you can imagine like you know people that he knew and was friends with family. You know a lot of the like locations and his movies are like you know. His basement what I mean probably rogue filmmaking the entire way. Yeah. Any permits just grab an hour and going right? Exactly. You forgot the script is okay. He gets really doesn't matter. We're just making it up to go I, you know that's the thing. Is that like alien factor in particular galaxy invaders so dark I mean just like the subject matter I didn't ever really get into that one but alien factor it's just has a charm to it plus I've seen it five hundred times of just with them. Making Fun of it. You know as a commentary trip but I guess, yeah, it started to grow on me. Alien factor reads a spaceship containing specimens for an intergalactic zoo crashes on earth near a small backwoods town, the specimens escape, and soon the town fogarty turning up mutilated. Is that the plot for critters? Seventy eight so I guess I I, see the at trend here though I. Mean like we're GonNa have a lot of spaceships. Yeah. Night Beast Nineteen eighty-two reads. A creature from outer space crash lands in a small town and starts killing people now that sounds really familiar. Yeah, I mean you know? I feel like that's kind of like needed to you. Your I know we can do this better get more money now. I guess I've just seen alien factor much more but. You know when he is spoken about ninety as the everyone's favorite. Like alien factor, it's got like three or four different monsters in it. You know there's one for that. He's like kind of up on stilts a little bit like walking on buckets or something and real crazy like bug bigfoot mismatch kind of saying you know and They're pretty interesting. Did. You ever see the sequel. Now I have not alien factor to. Yes called the alien rampage. which reads. Witnessed the return of Baltimore's greatest alien terror in this monstrous Saga Watch in horror as alien space, specimens escaped to pillage the countryside leaving pandemonium in their wake. If, you're trying to make it a scary horror horror, sci fi pandemonium I not be the word you want to use their. Yeah pillaging pillaging that's stealing people's like goods and stuff right? So again, maybe critters to. Yes. That was in two thousand one so. He has recent you know like interviews and stuff on I didn't watch very many of them but he seems People enjoying them in an ironic way. You know what I mean, and then they talked to the creator. The Creator is always like you know I was just a kid and I. You know I was just having fun and I know they're bad. You know that's why people like stuff like that. Don Dole or not so much. I don't think I think he's like. This is my work you know like cab not. GonNa fucking around ear. Just doesn't seem like many. chuckles with Donda older. So. We see him with Joe. Ripple a lot. Joe Ripple has they have both I like further movie called stakes. So Don dolar wrote it with Joe. Ripple. Joe Ripple directed it. Okay. and. It's a vampire. Whatever Okay Yeah Vampire Queen Right, and is that just like a little short or something? Not It looks like a full length richer our and twenty three. It looks like. Andrew Stevens and Shannon. Not. Shannon what's what was her name? Shannon Doherty now I that's what I got I got lost her for some reason. I looked up Andrew Stevens earlier, but I'm talking about Yeah I know what you're talking about what is her name skip over that? She's a playboy. She's a playmate, right? Yeah. I thought her name was Shannon Shannon tweed. Shannon tweed. Shannon, tween who was thinking of CI- Wayne. I lost their second. I'll just kind of look at it back and forth between Don Dahler and this other guy. That's his collaborator against. So well, also like a lot of these actors, they're all you know there's play different roles. In all of these, you know the same bunch of actors that are in all of these movies. George Stover Richard Ziesel. The Y. S. Z. L.. Greg Dolar Kim Pfeiffer is done dollars daughter who is in all his movies. Okay. Somewhat reluctantly, it looks like. That's exactly what I would do i. don't care what you say. You're going to be in this film and You do go fetch me my box the hands. Yeah. She's like she's like I will be in this movie but I'm going to stare straight at the camera every time. I'm just going to be standing here mad at you. There's a sheriff, an actor that's in all of his movies always places the share of among. Is Insane. His name is Tom Griffith I think. But in the in alien factor, he's kind of doing a Sam Elliott What's the COP on the Horse You've you've lost me the COP on the Horse Walker Texas Ranger. Anyway top on the Horse. This horse is a diabetic you dumb son of a bitch. was that our first dazed and confused R- that would not be dazed and confused. Own. Basically. Yeah. I'm googling cop on a horse because I. Can't go further. And it pulls up six or seven songs for some reason. A how could there be so many songs titled Cop on Oars. Yeah that's true. All Canadian. Cops are on horses, I think. They're called mounties. Now that's Macleod McLeod's. From the clan Macleod. took. If he had a sword in that would be. So, much better. Okay. But anyway so Tom Griffith, that plays like spam law enforcement in all of don dollars movies, and he looks like Sam Elliott in the alien factor. If you go to night these, he got a perm and it. It looks like if Sam Elliott got a perm and has a gray afro instead of a I have to SAM, Elliott hair. At him on the ground Oh. My Gosh as. Gray. Added Fro. It looks like a like a Pomeranians but. Anyway that made me laugh a lot. Yeah. This eastern night beasts kind of looks like a Charles Ban Creation I was I was just about to say the same thing earlier's I was looking at this. Now's like this has some real puppet master qualities to you know in that it's a crappy. Sorry. I love the box art for all of his movies out there are yeah. They look like trauma movies a little bit. But So and I think that the only reason that anyone knows don dolar is. Is Because J.J. Abrams. That is one of his first movie credits is from. Night Beast. He was a big Fan of the Cinema Magic magazine. Okay, and so he contacted Don Dahler and said look if you're doing another movie, just you don't have to pay me just let me you know common learned some stuff for night these he actually did some of the music him and another guy named Robert Wall. Did the music for night these in Robert Walsh, went on to do the score for. Gi. Joe and like transformers Saturday morning and start ends the S. so that's J.J. Abrams I credit is for at beast in the music. Department. Pretty freaking. Cool. I was looking at vampire sisters. Yes. I saw. I didn't click on that one written by Don dolar but directed by Joe Ripple. Okay. On erotic tale of three of the world's most beautiful yet horrifying creatures. WHO engage in the world's oldest profession? Siam. I gotTA. Get my eyes on. Is it vampire sisters is that. What it is, I am never going to watch them. Don't begin should don dolar and erotic should not even be. Or. Ripple for that matter should not be making movies and what was crawler another alien film and alien that lands in the woods northern Maryland let me guess Earth from a meteorite from which it traveled in the creature starts to roam the countryside looking for its first meal. You could guess a whole thing, right? yeah. Are you sure that it doesn't say ten to twelve drunk crackers chased into the woods and Shoot themselves. There is one of those mob scenes in. Galaxy invader. You've gotta see Galaxy Invader outlined. We I think you've seen it before but. The Guy. There's a guy that he really he always is one of the main characters in his movies while there's only like three main characters but. Don Lifer. He is like a new guy in town. Know he's interested in whatever's going on you know killings and you know. but then he ends up being an alien himself sent there to Ma Corral these ayling's spoiler. That's usually it's the plot, these news but anyway plays a you know drunken redneck in alien factor. Oh. Sorry Galaxy and getting her next step because they're literally the same movie just come differently. The as he goes to the local bar to get everybody riled up and it seems like someone is just filming a bar in Baltimore they're all armed already. I. Don't even think they had to go home and get guns or anything they just had. But yeah go out into the woods. On this alien down and yeah he's zaps one of the guys Don Lyford play the main the lead in fiend. Right. That's him with like stuff on his face. I have never seen ever seen that either an evil spirit possesses the corpse of diseased man. I says disease not deceased as disease. 'cause we already said court. So you see is to see. So he is dis- diseased disease corpse. Okay. It must absorb the life energy of the living in order for the corpse to not rot away. It moves into the suburbs with a neighbor begins to suspect something is that right? Are you leaving words out or is it the? It moves into the suburbs. Okay. I guess was tired of the big city life. Yeah. He wanted to settle down maybe start up possessed Disease Corpse family who knows? Yes it just wanted to get away and and you know relax relax mow the lawn every. Sunday like a normal disease peacecorp wake up and drink coffee and just look out the window and and his damn neighbors that 'cause all the problems ain't that always the way. You know all you need is an are to become friend instead of the fiend. That's true. that the tagline Madonna should be dismayed that a that's good. Oh Staying Up. All right, interesting gone dollar. A lot of these movies are on Youtube see can go and check them out. He also has a lot of just interview footage on Youtube. Cool and yeah like I said, you know all of his special effects really inventive. There's like claymation and basically everything that you could do on a super eight with the money that he had. So pretty cool stuff. I can quote the alien factor. That's how many times I've seen. Wow. Why would aliens transport these? Are they taking them to another planet to start zoo? Don't know me just watched one that was basically the same thing just happened to have this like super dangerous thing, which is just a weird out terror vision, the thing and that is almost a but they're. The. Same thing though. I will be checking out dawn dolar stuff checkout j.j, Abrams one of the hottest directors in the world. Thanks Don. Dahler. Venus Crappy crapping well, you know Roger Cormon sues helped a lot of people out say it looks like another guy by the name of George Stover? George Stover is frequently a actor. And he frequently an actor. And on dollars movies, he is a but man, he seems so unstable I feel sorry for him. Kind of because God maybe he's not like that in just normal life he's got one hundred and eleven credits your fucking shitting me. NOPE and all of them look like they could have been made by Don dolar. Right exactly mills versus zombies. He plays the president. Oh, boy. He's in Manno returns. I have not seen that as. I was just two thousand, eighteen. Yeah. I've only like vaguely heard about it. That's an hour and seven minutes long. I think. I could probably pull it together for that long. call girl of Kathy Lee. Aren't really. I'm going to have to watch things. This guy looks like he's been in turn of just bad movies invasion of the riptides you know what's Funny Holy Shit my mind Oh. My God galaxy invader, the one that rift tracks did okay. What's his name grover? What's his name George Stoves Dover Plays Jj Montague Jj his name's JJ. Collide J.J. Abrams it's J. period period. Exactly like that. Like, onion. Peeling. Away. Layers. I'm going to have to check out George. Stover do that he seems to be on the autism spectrum. But manages to what'd you say a hundred and eleven credit hundred eleven credits can't imagine how many. Golden. Globes. Negative three. Can they ask you to return the trophies that you don't? Back. Retroactive. All right. Good stuff. Yup I thought that people needed to know about that and the fact that they are all low budget in literally j.j Abrams would be the only well I. Guess You dig deep enough in something but I didn't think that I could get back to him by the stupid rules that we've imposed ourselves. So I figured I'd better bring it up but. If there is a way I would like to watch like a night these or something. Okay. Later, we can make that happen. Okay. So it's still my turn as an dill your turn. If you WANNA go straight into your deep dive, he had let's do that Ardila need another tangent of monumental proportions no, no, no we need to. We need to be laser focused. Laser. So I sent you a link in an email. Are you are you able to look at that right now? Maybe when did you send this to me just a few minutes ago okay Mister Rogers. Yes just click on it. Oh on it just the speed this along this regular mister Rogers show they go an arcade, bake a cake stuff like that. But Click Goto about minute eight in the video. Wow. Okay. We're putting on our jacket. We're getting our shoes kicking the box of hands farther into. Let's get those out of the view of the camera. He's putting on his damn shoes. What am I missing here go to minute eight. That was a eight minutes, eight minutes. Has said if you say minute eight I'm like a minute eight seconds. Okay. That's how the British say that sound Gotcha fancier. Okay. so Mr Rogers playing donkey Kong yet while planned donkey I mean this kid in here is planned donkey Kong and he's teaching him how to you gotTa grab the Mallet Ticket. Yeah now, ripa spine out yeah. It's that is not what Mr Rogers sounds like but you're right. It looks a little startled when the guy comes up to collect the coins. Yeah. He's like I'm playing a game here you ha- do this now I am planning an abduction Do you mind the S. so the friendly guy that comes to collect the quarters from the donkey Kong. Machine. Is. Young Young Ki- David. Yes. Very Young Yes. I mean like twenties would you wouldn't you say it's kind of hard to tell when was this episode on? You know this has good question I don't think it says anywhere on. That is awesome. What has to be the eighties early eighties I would say so that you picked Keith David because he was a voice on the Gargoyles the no cartoon that was just a serendipitous. Something that happened. Okay. He's been on my radar for quite a while Oh for sure. Yeah. How? He was going to come up. He's so cool I kind of dug around for that one which made me laugh when I, saw it. He was a recurring character, nine, thousand, nine, hundred, eighty, three to nineteen, eighty, five as Keith, the handyman and Mister Rogers neighb- right? Wow. I did not know that at all. That was after he played child's he looks way young Mr Rogers. There is no way that that is true. What you just said that's what I'm Sam to stating. Wow, in continuity of things here. Eighty two is the thing in eighty three to eighty five was Mr Rogers. Wow, that is crazy. 'CAUSE I see him in that movie I mean so I wonder how old he was. Well Cisco Look when was he birth nineteen, fifty, six K. Get out to calculators kids. He was he was thirty four. For the thing for the eighties. So thirty six, he does not look like he's in his thirties in this Mr Rogers clip. No. Now he looks he looks way unger, but then I call bullshit I am D maybe navy. But in the thing he looks older I think Oh. Yeah and it could be because he has like a beard kind of. But still I, don't know He. He's just one of those is it's hard to tell. Do you see what the credit is above. Mr Rogers on IMDB. The. Winter. We going to do that I. Think we're doing it right now. I guess so I've definitely have tab open. All Times just waiting for. What is his name Eddie? Eddie seasons in that movie. I might rent on Amazon when we quit. Okay. So like you said, Keith, David was somebody that we were going to talk about eventually because he's such a fucking bad at in everything he does but he is child in the thing and one of my top ten characters i. just read that Bloom House is going to be doing the thing. Yeah. John Carpenter had a little interview or something mentioning this? Man I. They've got a lot of material I mean they could go anywhere with that. I would like to see a continuing story and don't try to Redo, the the original. That's just yes. I didn't realize that. Keith David was in platoon Oh. Yeah. Did he's got a good line in that? Should repeat. Even if Maybe I just don't remember platoon that will. Wow really fucking love platoon good movie to know that Johnny Depp was Implem-. The Radio Guy Yeah Dude I saw at the theater. in missing in action three. A. Hot Pursuit. That was John Cusak. Yeah. Yeah. He's like he misses a boat trip with his girlfriend or something and is like trying to get to wherever the hell they are. It's like it's not Hawaii, but it's something like that. Okay. So it's like planes, trains and automobiles for John Cusak Yeah Okay Robert. In Zenit as a pirate airy stiller. The this is. Been Stellar in it. Yeah. I just saw that. Hey Miguel Angel Fuentes O c.. Man Human, Puma Man. His name's of video you. Know. That's an onion Look what is his name? Vedeno? Yeah. But the Benigno. Vedeno Dino. Anyway. Back to keep David, tell me what you got on him. Well, the best fight scene ever best fight scene ever in they live Rowdy Roddy Piper wants him to get wants him to put the sunglasses on. He probably could have asked. Very nicely. Yeah. But how they went straight to violence. Guys violence is not always the answer. Even if you are a professional wrestler, did we say that Cy Richardson was in they live? Yes. He works with a lot of like weird people that have definitely been mentioned on this podcast. He won a Tony for best supporting actor in a musical. he is from East Elmhurst in Queens. He's six two which I fuck in knees like towers over everybody else in a scene would. It doesn't say it in the. Trivia. But I'm just I'm willing to added. A lot of the Times confused with David I'll put that in the. wikipedia I'll change the wikipedia. Do I just stumbled upon. George Buck Flower? Yes. Yeah. Who? was in. They. Live. As a drifter. that. Guy's been in a hundred sixty saying, oh my gosh it goes on and on he is the white guy version of the black that was in everything in those eighties movies. He's you know the guy that the that Patrick swayze throws the keys to you know when he leaves to go to Texas or wherever okay. Yes. You are talking about here is in weird science this guy but he was in a lot of John Carpenter's shit. Right. So George Buck Flower was in the fog Oh. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Escape from New York. Yes. Star man he he can be sober and like in a suit or whatever. But it still feels like he's got alcohol on him as. In some pocket and. He. WAS IN PUMPKIN head. Sundown the vampire retrieve. Oh my God this guy goes on and on ought to come back to him. Too Bad it's not who we're talking. No. but yeah the if. You. Scroll. down. To. Trivia. In. It eventually does say not to be confused with fellow attribute David. So stay dotted that. So Keep David. He's been in how many things home I gotta goes on for ever yet he's done a ton of voice work because he has a a voice. Awesome Deep Voice Three hundred and twenty credits damn unbelievable. What a great career via he was Goliath in Gargoyles he does the voice for Spawn and mortal Kombat eleven oh yeah. I read something about that because he was on for the animated series on Hbo Beth Bad ass no. I like often plays hot tempered irritable characters. Yeah. Out Pretty much she's never like stay calm. Cool. Dude is usually in people's faces. At least my favorite roles that he does it was in volcano armageddon, Dante's peak in deep impact everybody that little two or three year period where everything was just exploding and you hate his went from set to set. That's hilarious. He was an er for a few years playing Pastor Watkins. Okay. If I could see him as a religious man, a man of the cloth, but he's also like can kill vampires and say. I will use this Bible as a weapon. Yeah. Exactly. It's got like a gun and Enersen. GotTa. Hidden switchblade. Yes. Yeah if you click on these cartoons every once in a while kind of WanNa like look some of these up on Rick and morty. Yet he's in all the hot ones right now I as far as I know he's in adventure time Beau Jack Horsemen, which has been nominated for a bunch of awards. You didn't mention he was in the puppet masters we talked about the other day. Boy Reality Bites. I don't remember that. He's in community man his so many credits he is in one archer, which now I've got a fine. Did you say he was in Roadhouse. No I forgot he has one tiny seen and no lines. Might say one thing he I've read this before that he did have a bigger role I. mean you know they come out well, yeah they cut him a how dare they kind of like the what's that black girl's name that was she was in summer school he taught her how to write. Jeez in Las Boys and you can see your back behind. The FROG brothers check and somebody out or something. I had her name to second ago I get her mixed up with Stacey Dash I, think it starts with an F.. K. That narrows it down to. Her last her middle names like Joe. Isn't it something like that Oh yeah Kelly Jo Minter there we go. Thank you. We saw at frightened marijuana. One of those years thank you F is not inter name whatsoever. No. And Nineteen, seventy nine, he was in a movie called Disco Godfather. Yeah Yup with Rudy raigmore. Now I. Have to find that had says he's unaccredited. So he's probably just barely in it but excuse to watch it. Rowdy Roddy Piper's head is so big. What interesting career? Yeah. What else you got in his Trivia he was on murder she wrote. Wow is that Edward Furlong. He is looking rough these days. He started a kickstarter not too long ago to buy a new liver so that cannot good i. think he thinks that's how it works. It does work like that. I WANNA start a kickstarter because I want perkier tits, House I think actually a lot of people do that. Oh. I mean if it's like. Fined ten thousand people to give you a dollar this. Yeah. If it was that easy then our podcast to be funded. Yeah. It's true. get on that. Would you? What he went to juilliard. Keith David Yes for singing I think. Wow, but that is I'd never heard him saying. He said. One of his quotes is like the doctor slapped my ass and I started seeing. Not, joking. I came out seeing the doctor slapped me on the head. Sorry and I started saying that's where he got the Tony Award for jellies last jam. Yes. That's okay. The I mean he's in all of our favorite movies. Yeah, how can you not be? Oh My god Michael Loves. The one with with me, Leo and Charlie Sheen. Talking about minute work minute work all my God. I can't remember that movie I do not have the fondness for of Michael. Does I mean he is probably the best thing in the movie. But no. Very, very prolific career man he's yet. Oh is in the nice guys Gypsy that with. Ryan Gosling Russell, Crowe Yeah Okay. Very interested we can go through wicked frigging click on his shit and go on for days and days. But again, I'm like man would want to be a voice actor just sounds like. It's probably like kind of boring and repetitive, but can like what we do now that's very true. Very true I've. Rethought, my entire existence I'm getting ready to talk about another voice actor whose credits on and on which I may or may not have mentioned before but. Interest. Using him today. Okay. Well, we're almost done with the wiki keep talking about Keith David for yeah ever I'm sure he'll pop up something and we'll do this again probably. Watch him and Mister Rogers and the OPI- boys and you better have already seen the thing. Yeah. We don't even need to guys that can we get people to argue with this that somebody's posted that you know you don't see his breath at the end of the I've seen all those and. I just ultimate ultimately, I like not known so. It's better. Leave it open. Yeah. But child the great great character although that is I mean you're you're right in that it does leave it open for the story to go on the NFL. Yeah. One of them could have made it out of I. Mean you know so yeah well, you want slam straight into your guy or Straight into it what do you say? UK, voice actors is the connective tissue. Maybe maybe. Because? We just watched gargoyles. We can talk a lot. A. Lot about gargoyles but I, I did go down. Just to look at Scott Glen in backdraft and started clicking through all sorts of backdraft. Yeah. Good movie definitely watched it several times. Kurt Russell dies at the end of. spoiler alert. All sorry. I haven't seen that. Then you don't need to. We just gave it away. You can save that two hours. Yeah. Why don't you go ahead and say that Scott Glen ended up being the bad guy he was wasn't he? Yeah. Is that seen of him like wedding his pants and just? What was his reasoning for that that the fire department wasn't like getting funding or? something. Like that and trying to cover up like some weird thing that they did. WHO has a craggy your face Scott Glen Orleans Henriksen? in a real crag off. That's pretty good I mean there's a lot of crevices on my God. It's like a couch cushion with landscapes and you've got to like get into that those. Areas I know there's some coins down here. Let me get back to let us have it out with it. Going back to Gargoyles Okay Gargoyles. The Casey vehicle I started to go down with Scott Glen and decided against it I thought we needed to go down Bernie Casey. Okay. 'cause Bernie Casey's been around for quite awhile and. Did. We talk that he died in two thousand seventeen I. Don't know if we did or not. I don't know either complications following a stroke about He was born in thirty nine which makes him seventy eight when he died. Yeah. So. Bernie Casey was a former pro football player. We mentioned that but. Did Not. Elaborate on it or anything was good friends with Stan Winston who did the makeup effects for Gargoyles Ri- ri- right course. So varying interests I like the idea of Bernie Casey and Stan Winston hanging out. But Bernie was only an eighty one things eighty-one credits. I just expected him to go a lot further than that nothing eighty-one something to. Aznar cat. Still, yeah, he was in a nineteen seventy, five movie called Corn Bread Earl and me I. I know that name I don't know why because Moses Gunn is in that Oh my gosh. Yeah. He did do like a couple of kind of blaxploitation. The Martian chronicles trapper John was he a wounded soldier and? He was in never say never again news in Bryan Song. And my favorite revenge owners yeah. Yeah. was his name. You in Jefferson, ride the head of the tri lamb. Right bill and Ted's excellent adventure, of course. Another forty eight hours. Under Siege. Street night. Yes. That Jeff's Beekman in it. God. The one that Kinda went on to do like Christian movies and stuff. That would happen to them I. Don't know sure he had like. Several martial arts movies, and then just disappeared. He beat people sticks. That was his big thing. Now, he only has twenty one credits. So he just kind of disappeared. That's probably for the best. Yeah. I'll do a deep dive on bring him back. I hear you Mr Speaker. Bernie Casey though he was in in the mouth of madness since we're GONNA. We're GONNA keep dancing around John Carpenter legis go into it JC and I, think we can talk about in the mouth of madness. For a long time. Yeah. It simply doesn't fit the. The conditions that we have vaguely laid off podcast. I think we'll get there eventually where Ra like just doing like a movie that came out a couple of weeks ago or something They at no that's fine. That's fine. It doesn't end the mouth the man this we love it as everybody that we've talked about I even looked at Francis Bay. she played the was the hotel. Clerk header husband like chained up or whatever. She's like kicking Adam. Yes. Right. Hilarious. Yeah I love her she was the grandma and happy Gilmore right? Yeah. I. Yeah. I remember that she has a hundred and seventy three credits. Yeah. She's in Repo. Chick. Yes. I saw it. I went down a little dive on her because I thought man. How interesting is she? Because I don't know that I've ever known her to be young exactly. What what did she look like when she was young but no, she's always been a hold she was in Kerpen Boerse tribes. Great. A movie I. Never wanted to see she's in the karate kid part three Oh is she like she plays Mrs Milo not do that is it might be oh. Know exactly who it is Oh my God at total recall for. Erotic. Kids. Three. She's the she's The lady that lives next to Ralph maccioni bomb. No, she lives next door to Mr. meow. Okay and and rough macchia goes over to see him and she like Yells Cincinnati Mike. He's gone. You know but. Anyway Wow That's amazing. You could pull that out. She read her wine a lot better than that. It was. A yeah. She's Miss Hickman in in the mouth madness. and pigment. Called Pitman's model is a HP lovecraft Greta. Every. Everybody's name is probably something to do with very interesting. She was in Blue Velvet. Yeah. That I don't remember her in that either and I looked at this she was in. No Man's you. Okay. Okay. Never seen this. It's a James Bond right Yeah it's. Pierce, Brosnan. It's a directed and written by John Mc Tiernan head the coal cover where he's doing kind of a light jog and a Jackson's, and there's a crazy like energy being above. Yes. And it says a French anthropologist specializing in nomadic groups moves to Los Angeles with his wife and starts following a group of Sinister Street. Right who seemed to live and move around in a black van. But they aren't what they see on like sheds or something I know I have totally not seen this move I have but it did not even like register for me so it must've been it must've been bad I looked at this because I thought maybe this might be something we wanna get back to at some point. Adam Aunt Mary warnow. Oh. In nomads meds yes. Hey. Lesley and down I was like Holy Cran. Okay. And there's like a four year period were adamant is just wanted to be an everything I got a juicy adamant movie that we should do later. Sound. So anyway, I did not go down a Francis Bail Founded affordable, Bay. All instead, I went down a guy we've talked about before William von Hamburg K. Right you know who he is we talked about him before he was in the postman. O. K.. Yes. That guy the needy face sky media face we've talked about his career before we don't necessarily have to go a wait a minute. No No scholley Shit. Not that guy. I'm sorry Willem von Hamburg is Vigo God Damn okay. I totally got lost in my notes here. Okay. Another big disturbing face to look. He was. Yeah. He's one of the bad guys in diehard. Yes. Yes. We've talked about him. Who was the other guy was just talking about the postman. God. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, he was in. Lord of illusions and. It's Daniel von bargain as that guy sway off i. got the Vaughn's. When I typed that in it change its Ville Helm and there was literally like fifty people that are Wilhelm von something. Wow. So popular name. So Wilhelm von Homburg Jason Von Walker. L. It I can use that I mean us that Jenny. But yes we've talked about him just because ghostbusters to. Neither the warrior we brought him up because Oh right? Right. Right I. Know We talked about that others, Lorenzo Lamas written by Thomas and Griffith. We talked about that just recently in fact as llamas the plural for Llama. Too? Long. Only if they're in mid coitus. Okay. My cheeks hurt. All. Right. So but Wilhem von Hamburg com Berg Hamburg I can't even say his name anymore and wouldn't you know at the first thing that comes up rests old wrestling pictures Oh did not want to see but since I was talking about it earlier, I, did not talk about the parody. Silence of, the Hams. Okay. Okay I. Vaguely Remember that I've federal agent Jodie Foster. Is currently investigating a serial killer helped by Dr Animal who is isolated in a maximum security Joe Dom deluise yes billy Zane. Oh my gosh. Martin Balsam. Billy's at the height of his career. Stuart Pankin. John. Ashton. Smith. Taylor the jury. Say Martin Balsam. Yes I did. I've never seen this. I know nor have I I not that I really wanted to I I? Knew it existed. What's weird is you scroll down it seems like a Mel Brooks, movie from this period and had you know but it's easy. Oh Oh. I get it. It's written and directed by easy agree Geo. Branch I think we lose. Touch I, think is. Alias. Doesn't that sound like it sounds fake it sounds fake. It has to be right now. Oh, there's a picture of. Like if Dustin Hoffman was good looking. But he also did a easy agrees Gio. was named whatever. It rolls off the time pretty easy though he also did Dracula deaden loving it. OKAY SO PARODY MOVIES HERE, Dracula dead, and loving. It is a Mel Brooks movie. So I'm going to assume they're connected. Yeah. Yeah. Two thousand one a space travesty now. I don't like that at all. So anyway. We're not gonNA watch size of the Hams I wouldn't do that to you. Although it does have Phyllis diller. Shelley winters. Oh. I would do a parody movie John Carpenter is in this. Keep on scrolling down. Eddie. God Peter Deluise. John Landis. It goes on and on Henry Silva. Bill. I see Henry Sylvan their holy because everybody in it. Sony Cox. But it also has a guy by the name of Larry Storch. Yeah. He's an Eddie deason right? I. Thought I brought him up before but maybe I hadn't instead I has done so many voice credits. Okay. And but he got his start in F troop. Okay. Why would say that he had a ton of ship before then but he was and a lot of shorts Koko the clown yes. Those are the short films he was in I still can't find him Isn't Larry Right Larry Larry Storch as soon as you click on him, you're no we're gonna go but he was in get smart. Okay. Oh. Yeah I do see now are at cool the Batman Superman hour he played the joker he's played the jokers voice and plenty of things interesting that was in nineteen, sixty, eight and sixty nine he played the joker. Okay he the Debbie Reynolds Show Sabrina, the teenage witch cartoon that's a nineteen, sixty nine. I didn't know Sabrina the teenage, which was that old. There's a movie called ghostbusters that he is in that like the sixties speaking of Vigo. I do not like after. No. I can't say, I've ever seen it. So nineteen seventy five was that you're talking about the ghostbusters yes it has billy Barty in it a comedy family fantasy, right? It looks like a TV show or look like a Carol, Burnett type situation. What didn't one of the ghostbusters cartoons have a pet gorilla two guys in their pet girl hunt spooks. This is live action. Yeah exactly. Home our God is too much. Do you remember what I'm talking about there was a ghostbusters cartoon and then there was another one that was crappy crappy in I swear it had a gorilla man I. Oh i. I. Wish I did also this is weird. Have we done something to where? Now? All of this is like like we've said stuff out loud and like now imdb literally is in a I just fucking with this. Yeah. Oh I believe it's true. Larry storch was in a TV show called ten fly. What does that word mean this is too much. Like it when we're both to silence of like. Trying to get to the bottom up, trying to find something that makes sense here. At ten, a fly is a borough in New Jersey like a donkey. Just the name of Donkey Jersey. At the city in New Jersey. So I'm not looking at Ebony Moore these are all questions that I? Don't error but I still demand answers is in alias Smith and Jones that was the guy from. Remember, we were talking about that alien movie where they some mummy, but it's really an alien like the buried, right? Okay. Yes. Is Looking for stuff. Yeah I watched part of it the other day the main character as either Smith or Jones, I can't remember which one. But Larry Storch as you already know is in our next film. Without warning. I didn't think you'd have a problem with that. I just looked up Larry storch though he he was paid seven hundred and fifty dollars for being. Like they just. Even, like whiskey for beings. That's why I think Jack Palance probably just got paid booze to. Martin. Land does looking he's frozen on the imbedded trailer for this. He's looking particularly uninjured. Oh. Yes. Got Long Hair. Awesome. So I'm going to read it out here. Okay, do. An alien creature stokes human prey I thought you get that. I mean I actually? Okay. I'm in I. Know you're throwing off because I didn't put any punctuation and right? Exactly I was like. Man. This is directed by great on. Clark. I know Oh, that's opening up a whole. Can of worms can I just say on the on the like cover art? It says it preys on human No, it preys on human fear it feeds on human flesh. Which I did that I do too and the cover is amazing that poster art I love it as so cool and I've watched this film I this one went missing in my archives from the mid eighties. All I can remember is the flying discs, right? Yes. Exactly. The Alien Weapon, a live alien weapons I loved it. Yeah. They kinda ripped off again and we come in peace that one with Dolph Lundgren kind of did the same thing but away crappier years later than this one, you know what I mean they couldn't figure it out. This one actually did that affect like better and this was nineteen eighty when was they come in Yeah. Now that was the nineties. I, think that's what I think. So the older movie did it better? Did you see that the officer dog faces in the? David Caruso No. Oh, are you talking about Neville brand? Yes. Sergeant dog face excuse. Meaning we could have gone to this movie A. Time. Watsa lots of threads but David. Caruso. I do not remember him being yeah. He wanted the kids maybe. Yuccas, in the eighties, he would. So Rambo was in eighty. Eighty two yeah so. He looked like he was in his early twenties and Rambo first blood is eighty two He was born in fifty six. So twenty four years old and without warning. which also without warning I, guess had a previous title of it came without warning. Which? As the years went on that was a less desirable. Either that or somebody really wanted to use it and they'd like somehow or something. But lots of fun. We're GONNA have good time with lots of people. In this you know Kevin Peter Hall is the alien in this. That is correct. Is The guy that was the alien alien no, he was not. He was That's right. That's right. He was Predator in Predator Bri. He was the Predator and what's the name of that movie? Guy. Had A big lake fish face and Predator. He was also Harry, and Harry Henderson. Saw My God. But he died at a young age. We've talked about him before, right? Right Oh my God he was the monster in the closet. He is seven foot two and a half inches sheesh Julia Morley. Cod that make up for Harry and the Hendersons for Harry. Is really disturbing. Don't you think. It's meant to be lovable saw that I probably a couple of times in the theater, but I don't think I remember monster in the closet. Well, I was going to say there are a few like kind of a I guess direct to video movies when I was younger that Talking on completely lost now. there's without warning. Okay. Here we go. Now, I lost a completely loss. St Lost to get you found it, and then it's gone I just needed to get back on solid ground. Cameron Mitchell is also without warning. Okay, he's like. Commander Santa from. Space Mutiny. Okay the guy that was like the long flowing robes and has a beard. I like him he's a he's in a ton of amnesty movies. Yeah. That's a real and so without warning is available, you can watch it on Youtube. No, it is on daily motion. Okay. All right. But if you WANNA, watch it for free, that's what you got. Okay. Yeah. Just try to have your virus protection up and running. But. It looks like a good transfer I watching on daily motion before that. Now you can watch I've got all sorts of clips I'll be putting off on our facebook. Our group if you WANNA see more of the weird shit that I look up and. Post about these different films or watching I have a lot of fun with it. Also check us out on twitter Yep on all the social media crap. If we're not in on there, then that's because I don't care. Yeah. We just got our my space finish and now people are. Is. On there anymore. That's a lot of ways. It looks great. Yeah finally got like that black background with green writings so that everybody can really. Dagan and read. Go to the OPTOMETRIST. With. Jabbing I've aim. Yeah. All right solid work here today yet. I think we did it. Whatever it was. Krista just contacted me earlier and saying this you'll have a review for the beast within. Awesome. So hopefully, I'll be posting that later it'll be up on the website for a month now since I work out. So late that seems like a long time ago beast within. was. Right. We're talking we've been on the air now since February. Exhausted exactly all the time All right by our merch, we need some income. Yeah we'RE GONNA. Make up some new designs here new designs. Did. You heard that correct new and new? Design? Nightly, and nude -Ly L. Speaking of I would love to do the nude bomb. Oh. Yeah get smart movie that was a Lotta Fun yeah. Don't drop it in Florida. But anywhere else should be. All right or. Anything else to add now I don't. I'm excited for next week this the good pick. All right. I until then. Bye Bye. BUBBA. You've been listening to the Yarn Wall. Mt Cornfield. Production. Tune, in next week for the nineteen eighty SCI FI alien horror slasher without warning. You can watch without warning on daily motion for free. We WanNA. Thank Keegan for that awesome opening to the Gora Him and if you WANNA shred your act skills send us something and we'll lube it up and slide it in. Again please like Sharon subscribe, then Rinse and repeat we appreciate your support. If you have any movie suggestions or just want to tell us how much we really suck. You can contact us at movie moratorium at Mel Dot Com. Thanks for listening and long live. VHS. So somebody's ADO IN THE NASTY

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Michele Mouton, Queen B of Group B

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We'll keep you up to date on everything you need to know in the world of texts including all those weird tips that make your life that much easier. We're always trying to help people like you including all the tech nerds going super deep in the weeds on every phone smartwatch connected car and. Computer. We can get our hands on and not only do we keep you informed on the latest tech, but we also occasionally have interviews and special guests like shark. Tanks Kevin O'Leary and apples creek. Fitorija don't miss out on a single episode subscribe to wait for them to MK PhD podcast on Apple PODCASTS spotify or if you're us have a favorite podcast APP, just go listen and subscribe to. San Remo. Nineteen eighty-one The Sun beats down on the seaside town as the French woman with dark hair and a wry smile whips her quattro s one around its hairpin turns exuberant fans lined the course only feet away from her on either side. Her navigator calmly utters directions as they rally over tarmac and gravel there in first place. But not by much fearlessness focus enjoy the ride where'd she lived by and words that would launch sure across the finish line to Make history as the first woman to win a world rally championship event the First Lady of Rallying Latham key the ranch, the French Tigris you don't earn this many nicknames by being mediocre. So it's no surprise they all belong to the fastest woman in the World Machel. Madan today, we're looking at this rally icon and the twelve year journey that would cement her place in automotive history as the most tenacious and successful woman in any top level motorsport this. Is passed gas. Yeah the the black volcanoes such. A great nickname. Welcome back to pass gas everybody. I'm your host Nolan Sykes joined as always by my toe hosts James Humphrey Chug Chug Chug Chug toot. and. Are you are you taking? Are you taking travel Scott's ad-lib? I. DuNNo. The decided sounded like you said it's in a way. That's. Yeah Yeah. So The way. Way You're saying that. How did you come up with that? Just came to me like I was like I thought something was lit. That I was doing and. It's Like Damn Start I should start saying that. We'll come back to that and my other co host. Joe Weber. Fired up and keep it jus. That's a new one I'm trying to get I like it. I think the more catchphrases you have Joe, the better job we got that video by those guys in Super Cool Huntsville Alabama. That's right. Put him down for Huntsville. That was very cool. If you guys are listening big shout, they said our catchphrases with more confidence than we have ever said them. We should just have him on the podcast to do. That to do. His. Yeah We'll look into it. Yeah. They can do my we the best. I do not care I think you're gonNA run into some legal issues with that one we the best podcast another one. Yeah. So today we're discussing Michelle. mouton. A woman. We've this is this the first time we've discussed a woman on the show. This might be the first episode dedicated to a lady. which is a bit embarrassing. I would say so yeah. But no better woman to start off this trend with and Michelle. She is easily one of the best rally drivers ever. She's a beast. So I'm really stoked that we can tell the story even if it took us a little while to get to it, that's on us but but it's interesting because motorsport is really one of the sports where women and men compete against each other as true like she's not the best. Female driver ever. She's one of the best rally drivers at. Yeah. Regardless of gender she's one of the greatest. and honestly like just watching a video of her rally driving makes me sweat. Over, yeah she's like she's the person who when we talk about. Like rally cars now are all-wheel-drive. Wheel drive. But when Audi showed up with quattro and just started smoking everybody that was Michelle. Meantime that was young Mouton Bay. mouton on the track. Yeah I mean. To your point James like drag racing of course is or was kind of dominated by women at one point all the force sisters were just tearing it up. There's really no reason. For it to be separated by gender in in Motor Sport Really of course right now there's the there's the W. series, which is a like a women's open-wheel series. At I think that's more for them to kind of get exposure and it proved themselves in like a formula car but I'm looking forward to seeing some of those drivers come up in the formula. One. Soon hopefully, it would just make it more interesting for crying out loud if nothing else I agree let's get into it a. all right. Let's fired up. All Right Michelle Mouton entered this world on June twenty third nineteen, fifty one in the French Riviera more specifically the idyllic town of grass cross grass Ross. The Idyllic town of Gross France, the perfume capital of the world grassi surrounded by fields of aromatic flowers and home to Francis. Oldest perfumery GALLIMARD. Look I'm friend by far French is the language that I have the hardest time pronouncing both words and names I apologize profusely to anyone with a modicum of sense of how to pronounce stuff I. Think you're doing great. I think I think here like right there. Thank you, Joe, unlike many drivers whose family have a history in the sport returns family made a living growing roses and jasmine for the perfume industry mouton spent her youth skiing doing ballet and excelling in school. But just beyond the flower fields sat the mountain. Stages used for local rallies and wouldn't be long before the engine notes trickling down into the valley beckoned to Michelle mcgann discovered her love of cars at fourteen years old when she would steal her father. Pierre's Citron to seavy and take it out for joyrides. Quote for me at the time a car always meant freedom and independence she said but driving wasn't something she could possibly see a future in it for anyone to envision that path for mere enjoyment to making something your life's purpose but you could argue this especially from. Models for women on the racing stage were few and far between. So after graduating high school Bhutan took up odd jobs working as a ski instructor, a Care Assistant in a home for the disabled and eventually at her father's insurance company until she began studying to be a lawyer but something unexpected would quickly put an end to that career path her entry into a competitive rock and roll dance contest. That's how you got started right James Yeah I entered this rock and roll dance contest and danced real good this rock and roll. And Bing Bang boom a recruiter from donut bobby. It was danced till you drop and people had to dance more than twenty four hours. I. Didn't even drop. It was Mr Beast. Video. Jenna Marbles Marquess Brownlee they're all in the same contest they dropped they dropped you pie dropped, which is weird because these these are all youtubers that are way bigger than me. and. Somehow I was in contests before I even worked for doughnut. They saw you in that Victoria justice movie and they're like Hey. Man. Yeah didn't, and then it just so happened that keep star dropped out last second james filled in. They saw me say one line onto broke girls and they're like that guy he's got the good. Nine hundred seventy two Muthana attended the contest with your friend John Taibbi Taibbi was a car enthusiast and was about to make his amateur rally debut at the two KORCEA on the isle of Corsica. He wasn't getting along with his co-driver and asked, Mouton to practice the narrow twisty course with him. Instead she was a natural and became is go to navigator in Nineteen, seventy three. They entered the first ever world championship event at Monte. Carlo just a quick refresher here the world rally championship or w RC is a rallying series organized by the FAA or the Thera Seon. Internacional. Automobile, it's evolved since its inception, but generally speaking the series is made up of special stages where drivers each paired with co-driver who handles navigation compete over the course for multiple days, they're driving on closed roads against the clock often in treacherous conditions with driving surfaces ranging from gravel to dirt ice and snow. It's international and therefore the most competitive but Mouton also competed in the European Rally Championship or Er C., which is similar to the WRC just. Confined. To Europe, as well as national rallies affiliated with neither the WRC or er. So there was twenty one year old mouton no experience under her belt. One of only a handful of female entrance at the starting line in the passenger seat of a Peugeot three or four s two, hundred, sixty miles, eighteen stages ahead of them you can only imagine what was going on in her head, but they won't be racing for long because they didn't actually. Finish. And they were hardly the only ones out of two, hundred, seventy, eight starters only fifty one made it to the finish line and that was in large part because something insane happened on the at Plateau. One of the mountain pass stages a blizzard caused a huge snow bank to form on the raceway with only fifty one cars making it through before the road was completely blocked rather than suspending the race organizers insisted the. Stage would still run and disqualified the one, hundred, forty cars at showed up after the blockade. For lateness this disproportionately affected independent racers or privateer teams like Taibbi Amazon who had later starting times than the factory teams in protest a bunch of the disqualified privateers drove to a later stage and then blocked the road for the factory team still in the race and they had to be disbanded by the police. This is wild. That's crazy 'cause they would've had to like turn around and then like go around. Yeah. So. Bogus like three-quarters cars are like too late to race. That's when you like July right? Yeah. Definitely, no you know we should do guys. We should go around and block it. They can't. Even I love it. Like a number of people who have. Shows that sounds like a good idea. Let's go do that together. Undeterred by lackluster first event mouton continued to co drive for Taibbi. I. She participated in more and more rallies her father worried for her being and figured she'd be safer behind the wheel rather than the passenger seats. So he bought her a one point six liter out Pena Reynaud a one ten. The best. French. Rally car at the time data things rear engine. It looks like a freaking not like a big kind of shark. But like a like a sleeker kind of shock like a blue shark I, love these things A. I've never driven one obviously because we don't have them in the US. But in dirt rally, it's my favorite car. We just saw one in the in the Peterson vault like the Alpha on. Yeah. We just saw that like a year and a half ago when we went there I, think it looks kind of like an upside down. Bathtub. No Way. Not a bath. I think it's. kind of silly looking you're silly looking. No. This whole thing. I didn't know such sensitive subject I'm sorry anyway her dad told her he'd finance one season of rally racing for her to test her medal as a driver, and if she failed, she would have to go back to law school. Dang. What an ultimatum hey, you either have to be really good at racing or you're going to become a lawyer. I will support this dream of yours. I will now used car. I will pay for fuel. I you buy usually tired I will pay the entrance fees but if you're not good at racing, you must return to law school and become. A, lawyer. As. Credit sounded exactly like Mr Mouton. How do you say? How do you say thank you in French missy Missy Book Cool Papa. Speaking of mercy, my one of my favorite bands is go Jira. There are metal band from France and on their live album after like every other song. Reciprocal. So good. Mizuko. Logo. All their songs, all the lyrics aren't English but then the break into the French for the. It's so funny. He's still have to be like have stage presence, but it'd be like. How do you tour as a metal band like how do you do that every night and just growl to your throat collapses I've no idea that reminds me. I was like a week ago when we Canaan Joe and I went. Camping. I was supposed to see deaf tones and go jira that night. But because of The global pandemic I wasn't able to but I will say our camping trip was a very suitable substitution. Yeah. I, pooped on a tree on a tree. Yeah I what I brought a shovel with me. This might be tm I abroad to shovel with me with the intentive digging a hole. But see I had whiskey for dinner so I didn't have time. That's something happening. So I just had to let it go. On a tree though So my whole thing was like I'm Gonna I'm GonNa like lean against it in a squat, and then I then I like I'm not going to poop on my heels. Okay. That's pretty good logic. Teach you that in the boy. Scouts. Bhutto made her driving debut in nineteen seventy-three three. At the ER, see all women's rally Paris Saint Raphael Feminine. Long name. Yeah. In a surprising finished for the newcomer, she placed fifth overall in I in class. Bowl jaw law. School. That's hello. Uh School A. Bowl Soi law school. As, this new young female driver clocked consistently good results throughout nineteen seventy-three close-minded spectators and emasculated competitor suggested she only drove so fast because her car had special engine. Is She's got a a an LS swap. Reynaud. It is impossible for a woman to drive this fast without a special engine love love Magic to Jj. DETAILLE. zygotes. Other reason she's really it's really funny. Man It just never changes dude. It's the same that you'll. I'll be like I watch a lot of like I've been getting into NASCAR oval racing a lot lately and I've been watching the ARCA series, which is like one of the feeder series for NAS car and. One of the competitors is Haley Degan. Brian deegan daughter. Just social media presence of like any driver she and you know that. Like. It's just. Like she can't catch a break when it comes to like people like particularly people in twitch chats. It's like if she's not having a good race which happens a lot in oval racing and it's just like it's it's a it's a flip the coin like she gone, and then like if she is doing well, then somehow it's re the racist rigged to make her look good. It's like no, like you guys were all the same people watching this every week you guys know how Oval Racing Works Right? Like she's a decent drivers she's good like give her a chance. They don't say the same things about like. Other drivers in the series, and it's just because Haley is a woman and it's very frustrating but it's Even more frustrating to read this about people saying. Musha moutome was heavily different engine. Now. Especially in gene anyway. Sorry. Continue much like Haley, begin who on ignored the haters s she geared up for the real event of the season, her driver debut at the nineteen seventy, four world rally championship at the Tour de Corsa we're only a year earlier she had competed in first race ever as a CO driver just twenty two years old Mouton drove her out in one. Ten to finish twelfth out of one, hundred and two an amazing achievement for first time. WRC driver at their first international rally. But Muthana held a more personal victory in all of this finishing this high in WC, round meant her car was subject to a thorough check by officials insuring it met regulations and complied with class rules it of course did and so the rumors about her. Engine stopped. By the season's end Mouton was crowned both the French and European ladies champion the following season. Her car was upgraded to a one point eight liter. She bumped her twelve place toward a course of finish up to seventh and she maintained the title of Overall Ladies Champion Hell Ya, and keep in mind. This is a rear engine rear wheel drive car that she's taken all these courses on. So that's pretty cool. I E. IT'S A squirrelly boy. Do you ever heard a snap oversteer? Don't lift off the throttle in the turns Michelle I know I don't have to tell you that I'm just saying explaining. remains. One of the greatest drivers ever drive a car I've never driven. Outside of W. R. Rutan Dabbled and other types of racing and nineteen, seventy five she entered the twenty four hours of the Maw with an all female team made up of two other French racing. Christine, detrimental, and Marianne. Their chariot was Simcoe powered Moi net ellen seven five with the transact transmission from a porsche in the middle of the race it began to rain hard while other drivers slowed to adapt the elements. mouton threw caution to the wind charged full speed ahead on slick tyres she started passing car after car even more powerful ones as her crew radioed in repeatedly demanding that she pit to change to wet tyres but Michelle Mouton didn't like to be told what to do. She ignored them. You must come Tuesday Pete. We must put the tires with this with grooves on. By beep. Michel she has turned off zero I can't hear anything. She hung up on me she. Anyway she ignored her team and she switched on her rallying brain and continued on the slicks. The team ended up finishing first in their two liter prototype class and twenty first overall class victory not bad. Baton says she was pushed to do more circuit racing after this especially in formula three, which might have led you know up to formula to perhaps like Ayrton Senna maybe up to Formula One. But she said quote, it wasn't my cup of tea. It was not my cup of Merlo I loved racing alone against the clock. My character wasn't cut out for circuit racing. You know they can only call it Merlo it's from. I was GONNA say trader Joe's Merlot boxed wine That's the real real deal stuff while she didn't leave the sick Dila soft with a thirst for this kind of racing she did leave with the interest of her first major sponsor, the French oil company known as Elf. In. I've always actually wondered what else was because I've seen that on a lot of vintage race cars and now I know it's a French oil company. So not very surprising elf-sponsored Mouton for the nineteen seventy, six rally season where she earned an eleventh place finish at the WRC rally Monte Carlo, as well as an impressive second place finish at both the rally by own Basque at the ER criterion out being. Not. So mouthful however, car trouble prevented her from finish the rallies at San Ramo anti-bse and the grueling car breaker tour Decossa or only eleven of eighty eight crews even made it to the end. Wow. The seventy six season SOM- UTANS switch cars for the newer a three ten but moutons career would really pick up speed in one thousand, nine, hundred, seventy, seven when she was signed by Fiat she was now officially a factory driver she had made it to the other side of the snowbank. Have you seen this a-3 ten I've never seen this car before it's so cool. Things pretty sick. Like A. It's got French. Three hundred Z X. Vibes I wonder if Our Boy George Eto design this. Oh. It looks very data. Yeah Dude if you had that, you're like the king of every west La car show did like if you if you should up to dais in that. Oh. Man You get a free coffee for sure. So many bees would be jockeying you. You'd get high five to death. This is like the most leather gloves driving guy car I've ever seen. This was huge from Utah who drove not only for herself but for her earliest supporter, her father he loves driving she later said he loved fast cars and I think he would have loved to do what I did. Peer father had been a prisoner of war for five years and never had the opportunity to compete rally but his daughters rising success allowed him to live vicariously they were off to Fiat. The. Nineteen seventy seven season Fiat had mouton driving the one thirty, one, a barth and Muthana. Hated it. She said it was like a big truck mounted car and called it terrible to drive, which is hilarious because it's a tiny car. Yeah. I'm sure Fiat was totally excited about regardless of her feelings about the avars handling mouton achieve consistently good results in it over the next few years and at one point she also raised Lancia Stratos. H F driving it to seventh in Monte Carlo. That's cool outside of the WRC however, Mouton was searching for a car. She felt more kindred with than the Barth and she found one in the Porsche nine eleven career are s I'll hell Ya this classic rear engine, Rear Wheel drive car was a step. Up from the Fiat and a perfect match from utahns fearless driving style, she drove the portion of victory at the race rally in Spain, her first R, C victory, as well as three second place finishes at smaller National Races. In France, that year she finished runner-up in the overall ERC to rally icon Bernard Darn each back on the WRC states twenty-seven-year-old Mouton was racking up podiums in her Fiat one thirty one a bar here in third at the rally den tabs again, the eclipsed by our Nisha Darniche. Again. Being eclipsed by Dr Niche but won the nineteen seventy-eight toward a France automobile a huge accomplishment the season she plays fifth in the standings and fourth in the FA Cup for drivers she was on the rise on the path to being a great driver, but it was an unexpected call from an automotive giant would put. Michelle. mouton in the halls of racing. Audi yes. That Audi extended an offer to mouton derive for the manufacturer in the one, thousand, nine, hundred, one season and she enthusiastically accepted she said quote we. Signing without he meant. Sheared. The on a team with her longtime idol how new Michaela enland he was always way up there for me says, mouton one of the greats Meka proved an enthusiastic mentor. He shared his tricks of the trade and taught her left foot braking, which radically improved her driving. I that's crazy. She got this far without doing that. That is, yeah. He also helped adapt her driving style to fit out radical new rally car that they'd be debuting that season the turbocharged. all-wheel drive quattro s wind. Audi's Quattro s one was two point one liter fuel injected straight five to to making five, hundred, forty her spurs to the crank beyond that it was the first turbocharged and first all wheel drive rally car a vehicle that would revive interest in the sport and also changed the game forever like like we people say changed the game forever a lot but rarely does something literally changed the game forever you know. Like. This is like a new ball in basketball like this is like the three point line like I think it's like like in flubber when he puts flubber on the bottom of his shoe and he's really good at basketball. Yeah. Remember when the talked about that in the last dance that was like such a huge moment for the NBA. Yeah. That then they were finally able to beat them on stars. And take take their back or whatever happened but beyond Mikola or the legendary quattro perhaps the most notable thing Audi gave Michelle Matan was twenty six year old Italian co-driver Fabrizio ponds ponds was focused calm and endearingly quirky with her thick oversized grandma glasses. She likes really like now she looked looks like a hipster like if she lived nowadays but back, then it's like you're twenty six year wearing these like granny glasses. She's cool. She's super cool. She had formerly been a motocross racer and rally driver before. Switching to co driving experience and knowledge that undoubtedly improved her work as a navigator cars coming go. But the partnership between Mouton in ponds would last a lifetime Audi debuted the quattro at money Carlo in one, thousand, nine, hundred, eighty, one, a handled the treacherous snowy roads like a champ totally outmatching the rear wheel drive cars like Opel a scanner four hundred and the Renault five turbo unfortunately though Mikla and baton were both forced retire Mikla after a crash and Mouton do her feel being contaminated with sand. Sanit gets everywhere. But even so they're stunning performances and speed in the earlier stages. Prove the Karachi was a force to be reckoned with things went better at the WR. In Portugal Mouton, was the first Audi to finish and took fourth in the rally overall. But then the season took a dip camshaft gave way in Corsica forcing her to retire and she was excluded from the Acropolis Rally after. They were discovered with her and her teammates cars in. Finland. When Nikola squeaked out a finish third mouton was back in thirteenth. Then came the serpentine multi surface car destroying rally in San Remo. With ponds calmly uttering directions mouton tore through the course over tarmac and gravel. But. On the final day, they're driveshaft broke but they were in first with Finnish driver Henri toivonen pushing hard and second with one stage to go mouton turned to her co-driver and said quote one, of us, meaning her Henry will make a mistake and not finish the event. So for me, I will take the stage as if it was the first stage of the. Rally not the last one like there's not any pressure on anything. That's exactly how she drove and sure enough. Henry Toivonen made the error mouton ponds beat him by over three minutes making history in the process Michelle Mouton. Not only secured the first win for Audi and all wheel drive car but became the first and to this day only woman to win a WRC rally. So the drive shaft broke, did it just become like two wheel drive then? I would assume so. I'm betting that the drive shaft like probably get win the two wheel drive and they were able to limp it to the end stage, replaced the shaft, and then just drive calmly. But high fliers don't fly for long ask a bird following the San Remo Victory Mouton saw stretch of crashes and finished eighth at the end of the season compared to her teammate Mikolas third. One thousand nine, hundred, two seasons started with a return Monte Carlo Rally that proved problematic from Utah time and time. Again, it was stage twelve. You just set the fastest time for the treacherous Cold Tarini Mountain Pass was cruising in third when she hit a patch of ice slid off the road and slammed into a stonewall at seventy miles per hour ish co-driver. Upon. Suffered a concussion mouton knee injury. But both made a quick recovery. They return to the rally stage this time in Sweden. So just to clarify on that San remo rally that she won her crew. helped. Repair the broken driveshaft, but it cut it cut the lead down to thirty six seconds. They were like three minutes ahead. They broke the driveshaft the dudes came to fix it, and then she barely got back in time to like maintain her first place. Wow. That's insane. So it broke on the course and they she was so far ahead that even fixing it on the course wasn't an yeah to while bringing back. That's crazy. We'll get back to more passed. Over sponsors. Support for this podcast comes from Microsoft teams. 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But also because he was an unabashed misogynist as the season progressed role said, he would accept second place in the championship to Michelob. Song. Dot because I doubt her capabilities as they driver. But because she's a woman Jesus Certified Yuck Rutan Enroll would face off again at the Rally of Brazil chaotic four day fifteen, hundred mile car destroying event that would end up being canceled just a few years later due to poor organisation. Some of the public roads weren't even successfully closed for the race crews dropping like flies in one of the final stages Brazilian driver Thomas Fuchs flew off the road plunged sixty feet into a lake. In was killed. Eventually Newton was one of only five cars left including role but on the last day of the rally, the German driver lost a wheel mouton clinch I for a third WRC win that year a spot on the podium and a slap in the face for role. Nice. The end of the nineteen, two season salsa and personal hardship for thirty one year old Newton just before the start of the Cote d'Ivoire rally in Africa. News that our father peered passed away this was especially hard from Utah who cited her dad support as the secret to her success he and her mother had attended all of rallies fittingly. So peers dying wish was for his daughter to start the race. So Tom blinked away tears suited up and set out to make her father. Proud. She dominated throughout the long sweltering rally where the temperatures inside the cars were estimated to be up to one, hundred, fifty, eight degrees Fahrenheit what that's like literally the temperature that you are supposed to cook chicken to. Get Sick. That's when you pull it out of the oven. So yeah, you don't because it keeps cooking it's one sixty five but you can report out about at about one fifty eight because it's GonNa keep going did. I. Cook. Cook I've never cooked before everybody watched you do. And then they're on top of that, they're wearing firesuits and homeless, which is one of the hottest hats Yep. Not Hottest Hat. I mean I can't think of a hat that's hotter than a helmet anyway. Halfway, through the race she was leading from role by over an hour low even after losing twenty five minutes, the transmission issues. That's crazy. I mean not just shows one her ability but also like how freaking good that Audi was on day three, this lead shrank to only eighteen far the hottest had I have. The hot hat Berar audio listeners. James. was put on his his helmet. To Great, comedic, effect. I, wish you casino that if she could beat role at the Cote d'Ivoire, she'd reduce his lead over her in the overall standings to a mere two points on the final day with mechanical problems mounting Rutan's car had to have a complete fuel injection system swap she enroll renown neck and neck. But on the last leg of the race Mouton went off the road and rolled her car. Amazingly. She drove her battered quattro three more miles but his busted beyond repair and she was forced to retire. That's always so amazing when you see like a rally car drivers like flip and then just like. Start Their car again and get back on the road. Oh Yeah. The different different breed men who tom pushed on and the nineteen eighty two season still proved to be your best. She clinched second place at the C. which. Made out of the first German mark to win the manufacturers world title. That's amazing wow. That was the first time at the season's, and she placed thirteen points ahead of idol turned teammate, Hannah Mikola. But despite edging out her rival role in multiple rallies remained twelve points behind him in the standings and placed second overall narrowly missing the championship. Her amazing season did not go unnoticed however and that year she was given the international rally driver of the year award at the inaugural autosport awards gala even for Breezy upon one big receiving the how the trophy, the highest honor for co-driver not only is Walter rural like I my like view of him has gone down since reading all this his name is also really annoying to pronounce yeah. Like every time I, see it in the in the script I'm like. Walter Roll. Roll rural rural. Too much. going. On Your name dog. DOTS and alienated up. You're not. You got three consonants in a row dog. Get some veggies in their. Is Invalid in there you Dork. When. You were in school where Utah like that continents were boys in vows were girls what what's way kindergarten? In kindergarten, all the vowels were girls at all the incidents were boys and I guess. Why is like? Fluid. androgynous. Yeah. I didn't I never heard that. I think it's like like there's like this teaching kit that included like some like personified like letters. that. Whereas on our wall I think it came with a song. You know. J. The letters. Yeah and all the continents were there was like I'm. As cucumbers and And all the vowels were girls. I mean, that's I don't. That's weird. How like once you start realizing how everything is so gendered yeah it's crazy. Yeah it's it's bizarre letters. Like, literally do not have gender but we're GonNa make twenty one of a man. Now here's here's my question where do number what were the numbers like? They weren't. Nothing they were just numbers. That's so weird Bonnie it's like it's like somehow somehow they figured out how to make women less represented in the alphabet. Everyone knows S, is a woman, right? Guy. What S S is like a curvy woman yea. Yea. Let's. That's unreal. Now I that's so crazy. Looking back perhaps for the best that moutons father a man. So concerned with his daughter's safety passed on when he did because an even more perilous league of rallying was about to be born. In Group B if rallying was already an extreme sport, nineteen eighty three's emergence of group B. Took things to an insane next level just finishing these races of live was a feet. So naturally, Michelle Mouton with her world famous tenacity and need for speed was all in. Group B, is awesome Groupie cars are some of the coolest cars ever built group B. is a bad idea. While Group A cars had more restrictions and were essentially production cars turned into rally cars. The Group B rally class had very few restrictions and its cars were designed for rallies specifically then turned into production cars They're basically like in. McLaren series we talked about the Canam cars in the seventies. These are basically Canam cars that you drive in the woods. Yeah. Driving the woods in Finland. group-group. Your B. is like if he took the NFL right, you took football and then you're like, all right guys no helmets no pads. You don't have to wear any of that stuff. Also, you're allowed to do any drugs that you want. You can do steroids you can do math you can do for PCP though. Start. Your engines have to wear pads you can do drugs and also here's a car. So if you have cars. Yeah. So groupie cars needed a roof two seats and you had to keep its weight as low as possible, and that was pretty much it. These lax regulations resulted in superlight aerodynamics speed racer's with all wheel drive and huge engines. Then some cases cranked out more than five hundred horsepower. These machines were perfect from return who never shied away from cars that were considered too difficult to drive more and more manufacturers entered into the sport spectatorship rocketed Groupie had ushered in the Golden Age of rally. We'll be right back with more of this story, but I heard from our sponsors. 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They're unconfirmed reports of mechanics finding blood hair and even severed fingers while cleaning out air intakes rally cars. Oh, my God Bouton said, one of our biggest fears was that something would break in her car preventing her from hitting a spectator. Being able to compete in such conditions, pretending the fans along the course were trees sometimes, I pretend to be a tree. I'm not a Tree Michelle. I'm not a three. moutons, I group B race at Monte Carlo ended terribly when we turn once again, slid on ice and slammed into a stonewall and over sixty miles per hour according to Michelle. The accident happened because she was forced to dodge a photographer luckily, she and ponds went unharmed but the car was wrecked. She did well in Portugal at the exhausting Safari Rally Kenya one of Moutons favorites where she drove on three wheels thirteen miles to clinch third place she she even managed a fourth place finish in Sweden as the only non Scandinavian to place in the top twenty. Nice. At the tour, of course, Mouton debuted Audi's Quattro A to this newer model was one hundred and fifty five pounds lighter with an engine that put out thirty more horsepower than a one. But mouton was forced to retire when her engine caught fire her car caught fire again at the rally in New Zealand but she was able to salvage it and complete the race by taking teammate Mikulas advice to drive into the lake. Lake. Crashes in fires and other mechanical failures would continue to drag mouton down in the standings she finished fifth overall. In nineteen, eighty-four Bhutan scaled back and only race has a part time team member, but that didn't stop her from taking second in. Sweden. For a non Scandinavian driver in a long long time in the highest finish for a French driver for thirty years until Sebastian Lobes win in two thousand and four but more mechanical failures made for an under whelming season and that Sweden number two would prove to be here. Last WNYC. Podium finish her debut at pikes peak international hill climb in the US. However was a different story for those who don't know hill climbing is a form of racing. Where drivers compete against the clock on an entirely uphill course and back when Mouton was racing it, it was still unpaved. So the course was on gravel. The pikes peak race in Colorado is also known as the race to the cloud with cars reaching such high altitudes. They'd emerge above the clouds, some drivers even where oxygen mass as first time entrance mouton ponds play second overall and won the open rallied class now known as the unlimited class they. Had averaged ninety seven miles per hour in their five cylinder quattro. Now, modest specifically for for the hill-climb climb was six hundred horsepower beating all the more powerful V eight single seater race cars. That's pretty cool. The following season thirty, four year old mouton continued to scale back on WRC driving only competing in one major international race the rally cooked d'ivoire she damaged your car but kept racing after she seemingly recovered only there was scandalous confusion about what? Car She was racing in exactly Audis, team was accused of cheating by swapping moutons damage car for one of the mechanics high speed chase cars despite denying these claims, Audi wouldn't produce the missing chase car when asked and despite finishing fifth Mouton was disqualified while the incident didn't cause lasting damage to her career Bhutan was a proud woman in the whole ordeal was an embarrassment. She finished a disappointing twelfth in the driver's championship. One point behind Walter roar. Now. And pikes peak seems like. I mean when it was dirt one of the scariest things to do Oh. Absolutely. Yeah. Just driving like on stunt or like one of those canyon roads is really scary. Our turn to the nineteen, eighty, five pikes peak hill climb would overshadow any bad press mouton set her sights on eclipsing last year second-place finish and taking the title outright as a solo driver event started out with drama as John was caught speeding just five miles per hour over the limit in the pitch. During practice, the organizers decided to make an example of her according to Mouton. It was like it was the first time they saw rally car or turbocharged car even a European or woman they put her before small tribunal lectured her on safety find her then had. The audacity to penalize her by making her start out of the car a seemingly arbitrary punishment at the mouton would have to jump in belt up and then go like they used to do in the mall but Audi made the obvious point that such punishment for moutons previous safety risk was an extreme safety risk. Yeah obviously. Yeah. Organizers relented and let Mouton start belted inside the car but a mechanic had to push her to the start line in new troll and she wasn't allowed to put the car in gear until the clock started and we tons own words. When you make my life difficult, you give me more motivation. So dumb it's like you're you're going a couple miles over in the pit now, you have to start with a blindfold. Only one arm it's like. Okay you can only wear you can't wear any shoes. You use your one big toe. The race to the clouds ends with four turns. Three of them drivers take flat out, but the second turn is too treacherous to do. So and drivers lift off the gas to avoid soaring out the edge of the cliff at outrageous speeds mouton with more to prove than ever decided not to lift. She took the second corner flat out the car was on the edge, skidding the line between victory and death that day it be victory yeah. Even with the deck's stacked against her Muthana set a new record on the course beating competitor. Bobby. Unser nineteen eighty two record bite incredible thirteen seconds unser did not handle his defeat with grace as he angrily spouted off from being beaten by Frenchwoman in German car. Rutan's cool. Response was. If you had any renewables you'd raise me back down as well. Hell. Yeah. After a mixed final season with Audi mouton moved onto dry for Peugeot. In one, thousand, nine, hundred, six, she'd get behind the wheel of the two five t sixteen after five years with Audi said. The Peugeot felt like a very nice toy. Abruzzi I had gotten married and taking a break from rallying. moutons new co-driver was the perfectly named Terry Harriman. who had previously CO DRIVEN FOR PROLIFIC? Rally Ari Vatanen unfortunately, a mechanical issues prevented Matan from finishing either of the two WRC eventually ended that year Corsica and the ever troublesome monte-carlo at the German Rally Championship. However, she won the majority of the events and took home the champion title, the first and only woman to do. So there's a really funny video of Terry Harriman. Like actually being his pants as a co-driver, but they're going through this like mountain course and there's a point where there's like cattle gates that make the road narrower and the driver loses control Ripi for the cattle gates lead you hear them go like Oh dear God, and then afterwards he is like talking to reporters something he was like, yeah, poop my pants. It happens when. It happens yeah man you get older you start poop in your pants once in awhile I probably will I'm like dude, just for foot. God It's not fun. Don't I mean unless you're on a in a rally car it's probably pretty fun. Yeah. It's pretty that's the only justification. Anyway Groupie was on its way out safety concerns had already risen after a series of high profile accidents in which drivers and spectators were killed. But the tipping point came that year at the tour of Corsica Henry Toy John and his co-driver Sergio Questo one off the road in Orlando Delta s four and plunged into a ravine with a car exploded almost instantly. Twelve hundred and Christo were killed and the FAA band group within hours. Groupie was done and baton decided to go out with it. She announced her retirement after the eighty sixth season quote. Henry's death was really sad because he was a dear friend and we had very good times together. But it was the decision that followed to stop the Group B cars that ended rallying for me. That end the desire to start a family with longtime boyfriend cloud gagnaire, a Corsican sports journalist their daughter Jessie was born the following year and Mouton began the longest toughest most rewarding rally over life motherhood. After retirement Rutan kept a low profile but didn't step away from the racing world entirely in one, thousand, nine, hundred, eighty, she co founded the race of champions in international motorsport event in memory of her friend Henry, Toivonen, that events still around to this day. it's very interesting to watch that I mean they they do a bunch of different style of racing. It's really cool that same year she joined the Peugeot Service team for rally raids driving a Peugeot two five, t sixteen grand raid chase car and transporting spare parts for the drivers. That's pretty cool. That's cool. Retirement for rally driver. Circle at the Tunisia rally she not only carried out her service team duties, but also participated in the racing coming in sixth in a chase car. That's so bad. Awesome. That's a you can't turn it off at that point. You're like, okay I'm here to help but I really just Kinda WanNa race over the years people tried unsuccessfully to lure the mouton ponds Dream Team out of retirement but they finally got their wish at the International Rally of Otago in two thousand eight where Mouton and Fabrizio Pawns both in their fifties now reunited for the first time in twenty four years to drive their forty third rally together in a Ford escort are S. Eighteen, one hundred where they placed thirty fourth. It's when you watch video of this, it's. Amazing to see these like women just snap back into it and just be like. All right. This is exactly where we left off. It's really cool video of this. It's like when your mom and her friend go to like Santa Ynez to do wine tasting but instead like. We're going to go compete in a rally. In two, thousand, nine Mouton helped create the FAA's women in Motorsport Commission and has served as president to this day because the title of president wasn't good. Enough time was also made a knight in the Legion of Honour by French President Sarkozy in two thousand eleven and in two thousand twelve she was inducted into the Rally Hall of fame. She's now a representative for the FAA and oversees the World Rally Championship amongst golfing traveling and spending time with her dogs. Hell Yeah. It's important to acknowledge the significance mouton being a woman brought to the history she made. It's just doesn't porn to not confined her legacy to that. mouton. Her womanhood to set her apart she simply wanted to be seen as a driver and as a competitor attacked last interviewer once asked her if she quote shared most girls nervousness when the next corner loomed to which mouton confidently replied everyone shits their pants sometimes whether man or woman. It's only a matter time. James. It's only a matter time jinxing myself and rise. So much. You're talking too much on James. Among so many other milestones Michelle Rutan is still the only woman to play second in a world rally championship and the only woman to place I in a WRC event. These titles were secured nearly fifty years ago. That's too long. It's up to all of us to put an end to the gate keeping Antioch. City. That has dominated car community for so long I mean that's part of our ethos man if if you haven't figured that out by now, that's donuts about share mouton story with two friends share this podcast with your friends support the women in your life who are also into motorsports. It's not that hard. And make sure your daughter knows that she could grow up to shit her pants in the driver's seat of a world class? Rally. Car. Great posing. Man It's okay I was thinking about this. It's just like. Who Cares. You know if there are women are not appreciate their raw talent for what it is. You know we don't need to like a scribe certain notions to it or whatever. We don't need to put an asterisk on any of their wins because of some dumb like. I think we should be required in Asterix by anybody win if they poop their pants while racing I support I support that 'cause I wanna know that WanNa. Know. Okay. I've heard two stories in this podcast of rally drivers poop in their pants. How often does it happen? Do you poop your pants once a season? That's why I would never wear a white racing suit. Yeah Here's the deal. Here's the deal like when I was a kid, I did junior drag racing and. As I mentioned earlier in the show, drag racing is as far as like men and women competing together goes. It's not uncommon for a woman to be in the sport and as a kid, the girls had better reaction times in the boys. But anyway, the point is like at a young age I think that's where I learned that like. Oh women can be just as dominant as men in Motorsport. Everyone drives a car the same way you know good car and skill. If you have a hard time accepting that I hope this kind of open your eyes a little bit because Michelle Matanza. If you're gal out there. If you're like a young Gal out there, you want to get into racing you Ken we need more women in all aspects of cars anymore. There's a lot of frigging white dudes around here. Yeah. We got ninety seven percent male audience watching donut. We'd love to even that out a little bit. Yeah. Let's get rid of these white guys with facial hairs on podcasts. With that. 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