20 Episode results for "Miche"

Internal Fire of Best Health: Intuition, Mystery, Spirit, Soul

Health Hats, the Podcast

09:57 min | 4 months ago

Internal Fire of Best Health: Intuition, Mystery, Spirit, Soul

"Visited my sister this week. Travelling between cool sunny sandiego and very hot indio california. It's not the same here since my mom died in two thousand fourteen. My sister jessica. And i- reminisced. Aw what did ruth. My mom believe happened after death. She thought her body died and her spirit lived. She hoped her spirit would come back in a monarch butterfly. My mom born jewish rejected organized religion after surviving. The holocaust. my other sister thinks our mom was atheist. An atheist is someone who does not believe in the existence of god or any gods. Our parents wanted us to have a religious education and brought us up unitarian. In later years ruth described herself as a june -tarian across between jewish and unitarian. Growing up unitarian. I appreciated the wonder of the different ways. People feel spiritual whether or not they recognize god. Welcome to health. Hats the podcast. I'm danny lewin a two legged sis. General white man of privilege. Who knows a little about a lot of health. Care a lot about very little. We will listen and learn about what it takes to adjust to life's realities in the awesome circus of healthcare. Let's make some sense of all of this game. I don't believe in a personified. God she doesn't want prefer or demand anything. They are a power. I can't conceive of can't really know. I find comfort in the mystery of the unknown so i'm not religious but i feel spiritual if god is the name for spirit than i believe in god if god rules and judges us. I don't believe in god. I have never felt that. I had to judge someone. Else's beliefs my intuitions finds deep suspicion of anyone or any religion that uses their religion to divide. Who thinks their way is the only way and finds others wrong or evil. How can they know. the wonder. And mystery of life and non-life calms me. The aw energizes me connection for me. Not division. I don't know if i'll come back as something when i go. But i'm sure there's more to life than cells and the physical. The first time. I felt spirit. I don't know. I was eight or nine and my opa who was a survivor of the bergen. Belsen concentration camp put his hands on my head. in a prayer. During a sater the energy i felt through his hands awoke woke me and called me as i never experience meeting my children. For the first time at their birth they appeared fully formed with distinct personalities. My youngest son seemed immediately an old soul when we first started reading to him he insisted reread back to front hebrew style. Personality infused with an old spirit. Birth and death begin and end corp. I've physical life. Perhaps spirit exists separately differently. We traveled to indio in the desert to visit my dear friend. Luke peletier on this vacation. Twenty years ago. Luke took me to the cr- apollo center for yoga and health in western mass. After our son miche funk died death dying and grief had drained my spiritual emotional and physical reserves. I felt suck dry. The week we spent of silent mornings macrobiotic diet and meditation quickly began to heal my soul. My spirit my mental and physical health would take longer to begin healing. Mike's incredible spiritual strength while dying showed me the power of spiritual health as his body decayed before our eyes. his spirit grew stronger and more vibrant. As you've heard me say before spiritual health. Trump's physical health any day mike died. Well a word about our sponsors sir. Abridge us a bridge to record your doctor visit. Push the big pink button and record the conversation. Read the transcript or listen to clips when you get home. Check out the app at a bridge dot com eight. gb are id g. e. dot com or download it on the apple app store or google. Play store record your healthcare conversations. Let me know how it went. So why bring this up and share in a podcast. I'm on vacation. it's on my mind. I'm wired to share. What's on my mind here on vacation. I feel acutely aware of bone tiredness cellular fatigue. It's really my steady state with multiple sclerosis. What gets me up and moving through the day spirit. I think it's extra capurro beyond physical a different existence. The closest i can come to a sensation of spirit is a fire and internal fire that warms me provides light and piece. I can call that fire. God perhaps when that spirit fire resides in me i call that my soul yet. Spirit requires care just as cells do spiritual health needs nurturing appreciating routines just as mental and physical health for me connecting with warm positive. Supporting people. nurtures my spirit as music art. Mindfulness and gratitude. So put all this together. I'm a spiritual not a religious person. I care for my spiritual health and feel grateful that spiritual strength allows me to often operate at peak mental and physical performance. Gratefulness strengthens my spirit. Gratefulness could be considered prayer. I sense spirit. High can receive god with meditation intuition and gratefulness. Goodness i didn't expect to deliver this rambling. Spacey rant what was i thinking well why not what i pause. I can reflect and create space for that spiritual health next week begins a two part series in a conversation with a family. The tom offs living together through twenty five years of sun. Brother ryan's five with cancer. The whole family shows incredible spiritual strength so till next week. I nord Off thanks to kayla nelson who have been social media coach. And joey van lewin musician and arranger see the show notes previous podcasts and other resources through my website. Www dot health dash hats dot com. Please subscribe and contribute. If you like it share it. Thanks see around the block.

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6/30/21 - Boomer & Gio Show - Hour 2 (7am-8am)

Boomer & Gio

39:55 min | 4 months ago

6/30/21 - Boomer & Gio Show - Hour 2 (7am-8am)

"Many you listening no marks not on the air. Every day. he runs the radio station and has a very long time. You're certainly familiar with his name. And if you listen to this show you've certainly heard the impersonation that geo does often of our boss so he's kind of a character as much as he's our boss as well and i thought just for a moment. This won't take long. But i thought fun because we've got one two three four five. You can participate or not. It's up to you boomer. Sometimes you like to sit and watch and mock right. That's kind of cool too. I figured i've got ten questions here to see how well you guys know your boss. Oh boy i don't think it's actually don't think it's that difficult ever know. Yes when i'm here. I'm fully engaged with him. But when i leave here i try to forget about them fair enough so you want most people with their bosses. I think so after today. They're the people that work for me. So if i'm in the office they engage with me. And then when i'm out of the office outta sight outta mind now they're talking about you unless you're paying the lunch right exactly true to okay. So here's what we need ten questions. I need some sort of a sounder star whose buzzing and i are right so eddie yours will be what you always have the you know something digital okay. So that's you at. What will you do chris. Give me something I'm looking at what will you do. Are you going to sit this out and just go to mock you guys. So you're going to walk so the three us a against one another's are you got something to know. We're just give me a sound. i'll get you something. Okay great all right so here we go. You can play the music ten questions all about mark chernoff. Some really easy. I think we will find out. Are you guys ready. Yes chris what is going to be. I'm going to ask the question. I'll just i'll yell house. Let me here. We go here. We go so we have digital we. Have we have exactly right. So i'll be able to determine who you will decide who gets cancer number one of ten about mark chernoff. When did he start at. Wfan digital That would be april late. April early april march. Ninety three good while to get that out but good job at sounder. Okay fantastic sure. Sound number. two march son. Miche is the general manager of the clinton that was qualified from. This question is out you did too. I hear out he stopped after. You said barca's son is why don't we. We don't know what the cord again since both mark. Son miche is the general manager of the cleveland indians. Where did mike play college based on digital princeton university. Good job eddie. He was a captain to a senior. I'm pretty sure he's got a little more light than data. I guess i know making fun of short short list of short people. I can make fun of beyond question number three now. This is one that i know as they listening to the radio station. Eddie might have the advantage here. I'm not sure but any any ten for ten question number three. During the irs years there was a show remote in the winter. Up in new hampshire now mark staying true to himself and his routine still got up at three o'clock in the morning to run. Where did he wrong in the corridors hotel. Three three well done a lot of this guy. Eddie was here when all of this but here until two thousand seven that you've actually roy. What year is that remote That i don't know. I was probably fifty one hour early to i would say early. Two thousands probably question number four before the fan was in charge at k rock howard stern in the morning as we know where was mark prior to karaoke digital good that would be w. a. d. h. a. dover new jersey art album. W w good job al surprise. You didn't go yeah. That was a zero three zero. And we all want howard stern's job five hundred million entire summer not back after labor day question number five eddie and lead right now about mark chernoff. Where did mark go to college digital university. That's exactly right good job and also worked at the radio station. They're all right so for. This is so number six couple of questions ago you mentioned. Wd so he's also worked at any w. he's worked at k rock. He's been here a long time. There's one other place that he was a dj at and got paid to work. Where was it spent a lot of articles. That's why. I thought you guys get this. If you read the article. I know i'll read the preparing. Nobody boomer for the steel. Still w n n j never heard of that. Yeah i didn't say you had it. Thought maybe you've read an article about them man as he is walking away today. Do i need a question number five years before hiring boomer and carton marks at the guys up for a demo show where did that take place in the cup diner and a story. No yeah the in the diner they'd get a show production studios at wnw. Yes the cup. Diner was where he got the guys together with mike. Oh that's what it was wrong question. What day of the year was july fourth of july. That's right. I was about to say that was worser than seven and put us in a studio him and chris olivero the architect sure i said five subject matter go forward came out if three so. That's the morning show history right there. Four two zero. It's three two two zero one for me right to five luma just added a question. The question that was honest question. Now got it all right here. We go next question. You free now right now and that was worth two points. So we're three three zero so you guys are tied with three to go. Be ready to buzz in here. What is mark's favorite word. That's a tough one boomer. Who got in. I think ceelo all right. Good no cruises on byard years. You're still alive. We got three three two one with two to go. I have no solution for ties. So that's true. You know exactly what he's got to do exactly here. We go question number nine. What do market is sunday at. Least one once a month together for the lead play catch. Yeah which is one of the cooler things i've seen didn't or three and one eighty europe. Three your dorming. I think i was eliminated. Basically after question one you are you a since your door me now. i won't. You can hang around now all right question number ten. What else up. Four three gas eddie. Only had three year but he got the bone and we don't just go to question now. Don't you have questions does yes was chernoff. Faa ninety-three was eddie mark son. Mike played college baseball. That was eddie prince daddy at a fast eddie. Running around the mark running around the corridors and hotel. That's three for eddie. Then you had the wnw thing that al stole from you because you said dha. That's three one right. Oh what als. And he's got four. He had rutgers i. But i also had two on july fourth so you gave him the bonus. Yeah we are tied to the final question for the win. You not allowed to answer. I will not. This is for these. What honor was given a mark chernoff on may twelfth very quick al new york broadcasters hall of fame very well allieu stolen the contest john. That's exactly right He was elected new york. Broadcasters hall of fame on may twelfth saw very good allen pressure down three nothing pretty pretty comeback. Like the mets very become back the behind last night. You're like like francisco important Two out single disappointed. chris. I thought you would have done a little bit better. Which ones all of them. Except for the i not. I knew that. I didn't get to the last one. I knew i wasn't allowed to buzz in true. You got the other. One talked sun i knew about his son. Yes and now is the one that was usa. Today that wrote about there was at the post. I don't one of those articles right about that. Which is picked it up. Put it out first. And then it kind of circulated a little bit and i know. He is driven long and far to make sure that that happens every month. Actually some flying to make that blooms probably and it's pretty cool are chris. Thanks very much. i wouldn't go too far. Maybe go out and come back reading here. Yeah exactly Way back from me to fly by. Can you just retire. 'cause you suck. What was that was that mark. That was his sign up when he did the jock shift. Very i was kinda root. Yeah well that's eddie. Again dona seth macfarlane seven. Sixteen i usually. It's usually into our headsets. To each the morning show with boomer esiason gregg giannotti boomer and geo is name. Is chris lopresti. Go hi brought to you by home. Serve the best call for heating and cooling relief is at her home serve ny dot com and yep a very quiet offense again into the seventh. That's when everything changed. It's a lie. Dr basit hitting the left center field over the head of swanson rounding third scoring easily as peraza francisco lynn door with a two out. Rbi single and the mets have taken a four to three lead. Here are the top of the seven dazzle. Wcbs eight eighty that followed. James mccann's game tying three run homer of charlie morton who had absolutely dominated the mets the season up until that point yet four scoreless innings for the mets bullpen including save number seventeen for edwin diaz. Mets four three in the first three from atlanta. Here's mcken he says. Hey i just happened to be the guy. This time around. He given day any guy can can can get the job done and we pulled for each other. We really have each other's backs and when you have that kind of culture that kind of atmosphere good things. They love talking about this culture. Nothing it's often. You know they needed to win this game to handle the nationals one. Last night the race they would have been to up on the nationals. They just needed to get a win. And hopefully this will continue. I don't know you just never know louis. Rojas is saying well. Maybe france door. Will you know his bat will stay hot and like spanning two fifth and also guaranteeing hits but he hasn't had not been consistent. I guarantee you if you go back to that saturday in washington price of the same thing when they're carried them to a win and hit two home runs and he but there's been no consistency the problem right and they still had a shot in the seventh because title gil pitch pretty well and his second career start. He took a shutout into the fifth. Despite some pretty poor home plate. Umpiring throughout ozzy always got him for three run homer but that was it. He struck out eight and mccann called him a slow heartbeat guy seems to have the mental makeup to be a dependable starter. Cool demeanor that he has a with this stuff. makes them the kind of pitcher that he's shown so far. Yeah that's a good description. Now that kid is now pure ice does sound like ed was at komen asking questions man right exactly mccain had called him where you get carnegie guy no statement slow heartbeat guy and then eddie coleman took that and went to row and kind of attitude to get his thoughts and then row husky. The ice and the veins got slow heartbeat. Nice in the vein lit up the next time it comes out to calm. Down is relaxed cough. Yesterday's he's he's gone one of the guys. On the telecast basically said you you'll learn a lot about a guy when he's basically getting squeezed by the empire or in this case having horrendous calls against seeing the reaction how he's just nothing. I mean the ball or the next pitch. I love abbie endings. Okay that's good. Who doesn't ed. David peterson max. Free tonight in game. Two of three beginning at seven twenty as you mentioned the nationals one as did the phillies on tuesday night kyle schwarzer with yet another home homerun twenty-fifth sixteen in eighteen game span now. He said he's yet to be invited to participate in the home. Run derby but even if he gets he's going to decline it and rest up for the second half what do you make schwab thing boom. This isn't a tear. this is ridiculous. He's just he's in his own is what he's in. I mean every now and again you don't athlete like trae young when he was fighting against the next zone like you could not get him out of that like this though. This guy is locked and loaded just like otani is right now not like this. he's sixteen eighteen. He sat and records. I mean like you know. Daniel murphy was when he was playing for. The mets against the cubs had was locked. Then i know but and this is just amazing about it. It's actually good to see it because everybody's bitching about hitting lack of batting average and all this other stuff disguise well in a way. When did the sticky stuff start about two weeks ago and this and this run for him. Starting june eighth. It's interesting lack of sticky stuff is heading home run. I don't know all i'm saying is this is historic. What he's doing here and slap a yankee pitching around. Hey as long as they went he can slap them around as much as he wants. See if they can score some runs against him tonight for we get there. Though you had the state of the yankees from brian cashman. Before last night's game we heard the we suck right now bite last hour. He added to operate ourselves. Out of that is is obviously the effort but until we until we get online start flying high again. It's gonna look bad and it plays bad and it stinks to high heavens and right now we got on that. He didn't place any blame on. Aaron boone of the coaching staff though and said it's basically on all of them to work their way. Cashman can you let them do what he's gotta do here toronto. I'm not interrupting did no. That was eddie interrupting. So we get to the game. And the yankee bats at least for one night woke up and they put up a career high or career high season high eleven runs swung on and drill deep left center field ward back way over his one hop both the monument park wall sanchez. Scores stanton will be held at third. Pinhead is a rivi double avoid of bullying the dead center. That of course. John sterling and that was part of a five run fourth inning. As the yanks blew it open. They go on to win the game. Eleven to five yet. Home runs from judge. Sanchez and do har- aaron boone. Taking it all in stride to are ahead of ourselves we've we've had Different run so far too ahead of ourselves. We've we've had Different runs weirdo. Hopefully wasn't trying to say something else and then realize it was going to be bad and just kind of kept going with it. You ever get to hard ahead of yourself. Boom now now hard. How did he have no idea. And he's got fifty thousand. Sit there and five seconds later. Maybe ten that comes from over seven years ago seven years ago at the snap of a finger. Fifty minutes to find a sounder for the chernoff. This guy. yeah but did you guys see the thing that cbs sports network did turn off. The video of various stephen waldron very job and that was a great job. And you just forget about all those things that you see in those clips at how long it's been together. I mean it's just great expands the hourglass so yankees the game but true though you look up every day you're working. Everything's going you look. You're sixty years old. You guys gotta cry here. We go correct. No i'm not saying but it's to his point like you look back damn did a lot of things over the years you've lived you've loved you're gone. It's over practically fade into darkness. Yeah imagine if you didn't listen to those motivational books on tape listening to somewhere. Someone's dying right there. What the hell is after this life. Not a damn thing. Warm as time goes on. We're forgotten there are those that will leave a mark but many of us will not carry remark. Did i this too many of them your just here one day. We're all not and the world's gonna keep spinning and we'll be forgotten. What are you doing. Where do you see what allen i have very deep conversation comes on the podcast a lot and it's his fault. He brings up the topics he wants to know about relationships. He wants to know about after death he wants to know about. You know there's any asks you you're where his bread is buttered up the world according to jerry. Yeah let me ask you this out of everything. You just heard anything there. That's not factually factions. Just how it said it might be much. I do believe that the other things are up. It's a bird you moron. Let's say your mom or your dad passes away and all of a sudden you're standing at their grave site and a hawk comes flying thirty feet above you. I think you might tend to think that's them and it's not it's a bird you moron. Yeah you just set him up. Aalyah go but when i hear him. Starting to philosophize try to lay low step aside To see if there's more next thing you know you're dead. You never spent the time with your family. I cares about you. Philosophy remember the old philosophy with fisa. Rav this is nothing more many scam and just filled with hypocrisy. And then you're dead. That's yes you pay your tolls believe in you because everyone else will let you down by the way that magas is available. The wfan team score right. Now it's slow great stuff better artwork. Jerry goes corologis little beings on the pimple of the ass of the universe. We're nothing more than a cat that gets hit by a car or the bug. We step on their living beings that are dead and they're gone. Bet that'd be like a two volume set this blues too. Many can't even i don't even remember the one else many. Wow wow okay very interesting perspective on life. Yeah and ask for that matter. That's very real. You might as well tie. wait around. Wrangel would be dropped off a cruise ship the ocean. Everything's so goddamn negatively unbelievable. You say that. I i'm sure the negativity aspect of you and you listen to this. I happen to be very positive. What is happened us. I am but when when he reads horrific stories to me. It brings that part out at how you just said about men use. Set him up the fail. That's the way i look at certain times when jerry's in the mood to talk the you know have these conversations about life and i'm very excited. You're like the therapist. Say very little and sit back and and then how did that make you tire. Wait around your ankle prop your groups and when you when you hear that you think of what goes up. Everybody sends that alter his part or to. You're banging the waitress in the diner. They never say that. Okay look. I found him in the car getting from the neighbor. You can't grab that. Because i can't go near fifty four percent of all marriages divorce. You know when you get married you can throw that trust and belief out the f. and window and you just hope that things work out because fifty four percent you. It's not going to my own trouble and you're in the minority of that to your house troubled trouble. I'm responding to topics he brings up. Yeah i understand that. Not like we turn the mic on and al says go start giving doom and gloom. It's he brings up every topic to react. Ever give the other side of it and try and shoot down like you know. He brings up filthy stories. I mean they are like he'll bring up i. There's one story in the paper today. And i hope we don't talk about it just as an example of like a teacher that's going to prison after having sex with her student like what is wrong with people so something like that. Yeah it gets you out into a bad mood and you start. Thinking about the filth. That's out there scummy filth gal that should go find a whole sitting it and wait and see if anybody comes looking for them because my guess would be probably not right right right right go on christ you might as well just dig the hole right now. Go lay in the dirt shoveled on top. You can cut to spread too much time together. You're talking much house. got the right down pat. Okay yup chase us. Hopefully that's the end. So why don't you tell us about something else please. i'm begging. You mentioned the sticky stuff before josh donaldson been very much in the middle of that he was the one that went after garrett cole few weeks back so he got into it again last night. So this time he hits a first-inning homer off. Chicago's lucas giolito. As he crosses home plate it sounded like he said you kind of pick it up on the tv broadcasts not sticky anymore and he's rubbing his hands together as he had as he heads towards his teammates. Gio ends up getting the win and then they asked him about donaldson after the game. Let's try that again act. I mean he's a kind of a classless move. If you're going to talk to my face can you go. You know across home plate and do all that just come to me so then the follow is hey. Have you guys had any beef before. And he said not really. We won the w sex my name their loss place. And there you go mic drop outs. Sounds about right there and see Thousand really has put himself all this not afraid to either because i so the players themselves don't trust the owners and we're probably going to get some sort of work stoppage get down to the brass tacks of trying to figure out what's going on with their with their Cba now you also have the players going after each other which is interesting Well now they were going after each other to after the steroid. Your guys like trout who everybody best player in baseball saying. You know you don't need to have. Pd's in the game. they should be added. I appreciate that he said that i. I certainly agree with him. One hundred percent but this. This thing is a little bit different because base. Baseball's have been manipulated for years and years and years and years and years. David cone is gonna be talking about how they were talking about. Law changle in different words back in one thousand nine ten. Yeah well they were doing the same thing back in one thousand nine. Whatever was as they're doing today. Maybe they're not using that spider tech. They were using to generate spin rate. But i mean john donaldson is base is made this whole thing an issue and maine and we'll own it up the players the proof will be when the stats bear out from the point of when this began to how finish what was prior to because if it had that much of an impact now we know why the hitting was so atrocious while the averages are so bad and while the strike outs were so prevalent every night and again they they can determine spin right now. Yeah and they are. They're down and it's down. Its way down. Let me give you the nuts and bolts from the basketball last to the hawks beat up the bucks. One ten eight even the east finals the to appease did it without trae young as he sat out that bone bruise in the foot. You had janas with a hyperextended left knee in the third quarter did not return. He's gonna go for further imaging today so we'll stay tuned on his status. Let me play you one thing. I don't know if you saw this from. I guess before the game. Tnt leading into the game. When we found out young wasn't going shack. And charles barkley barkley trying to figure out what atlanta's gonna do with young out of the lineup. And i would start jeff teague because if you start a little williams i don't see yeah jeff teague start him he's he's not exactly on the atlanta hawks got bucks big dummy done talking about t. I forget. i'm forgetting somebody can make. I can make a mistake. Who who's another guard. Kenny smith seriously not worth star. Jeff team mistakes. Just give me another name. Who's gonna throw and funny thing about shack mocking that. They test on team gets his pound up now. I was funny. I saw that last night. I'm like geez guys. Come on georgie. In tom's river georgie. What's happening brother. I i'll i'll never forget a long long time ago. I was new to the boomer and geo show and i loved it for countless reasons. One thing that hit me hard was when jerry said all people are garbage. Not all people are garbage. That's not true. That's not the phrase that people can tend to be garbage garbage like however you want to phrase yup okay now regarding late being meaningless and stuff of that nature when you say stuff like that okay and regarding virtuality metaphysics okay that has that could have a lasting effect on the nature of each other and how we perceive life so if you have like an impressionable listener. Let's say and he works here that he might go on his day thinking negatively and thinking you know garbage like perceptions of reality about people and he might he might in actuality start feeling doom and gloom and with that one and a half no somebody else somebody up so when after well. Jerry's perceiving reality is fine but the way in which he's permeating and we're out in through in each other better physically period rally could be a bad spirit so it's not necessarily then that garbage it could be jabar's but george here's the problem with your take. You hung up on him. I didn't hang up. i touch them. He hung up the problem with the take. Who really gives a crap. Did you get the point or didn't you know what he needed a point his ass does say any handle it right but in in fairness to me because because what he is doing to me is what i have done to players and managers for years and years and years isolate clips and just have fun with it. Yes the context of what. I'm saying it's just a standup comedy. Really sucks does but if you actually understand why i said it and where it came from her the entire conversation. Yes you would understand. That guy's a hall. You're putting it out there and all the people listening and you're just poisoning the massive any metaphysical running all of us. Think that when. I do work with you and i leave the studio album usually in a bad mood. I know you're not hear you'll love it. you'll love it. You love it and you go play them smile day. It is jim in rocky point. Please help me. Jim how are you. Hey good morning guys. thanks for taking my client. Say like i got into saying georgia's pointers now but added completely different. Take you guys have me crying when you said jump off a cruise ship with away breaking. That was it man. I was dying. Because i'm wondering traffic on. I mean dying day. Good jim your service. Appreciate that positively on a wednesday on a horse out there. Just drop dead and go away bed you guys. You bring the best. Jerry i have. I ever played the one for you from out a couple years ago. We're in the middle of a commercial break. And somehow one of eddie's drops flyers off guys guys reading the spot about. I think it was for books on tape or something. And it's very serious mon monetary quiet and all of a sudden you sir. I never heard that for you. I'm i i didn't do it on purpose. I've been known to do that right. Wow okay great thoughts on the nor'easter over there. Yes that the morning show with boomer. Esiason gregg giannotti boomer and geo couple of quick things here one selfishly And then another thing for you for hockey which is interesting in and of itself number one. I want to congratulate my son who hit his first home. Run last night as kind of cool. Yeah yeah. he's been close numerous times so it's kind of cool. Actually him do it last night. And it's the first game in two years that i forgot to record can't make it up. Come on record every game even matthew to save them in my dropbox. I forgot my camera last night. And i realized that when i got there i'm like do i go home and get mega. Well you know what got enough good. And then i about first pitch. So what are you gonna do. Situated game one again actually played very well. Pitcher pitch great played no errors. Really good defense was good. Last night was a good night. The other thing is since we have a couple of minutes here just quickly your take and only because he's a big name and hockey your beloved your beloved sport. Yes i read the jackal story. That larry brooks put out and we had it on my sheet to get to yesterday. We never got to it right any truth to this. Would you go near it. Because i sino. He's got the neck disc issue in his neck. He's making ten million dollars for the next eight years or something so you know and i know. He's a bu guy. Chris be bu guide. David quinn was a bu guy. I don't know this is you gotta make sure medically that. He has sound allison when he is healthy. A number one center. There's no question about that and then you have to wonder you know you could have him on the team with mika zibanejad would make it a much better offense of team and much more forceful offensive team. And he's a physical player. But i i would really worry about the disc issue in his neck that that is that would really concern me so i. I think there's some truth to the rumor. I know that i. It seemed like everybody in hockey believes he wants out of buffalo right so he will be a a very attractive player if in fact he can prove that he is healthy. The thing i found interesting in. Larry brooks's article was that preliminary discussions have been had. There was doesn't mean anything that could be exploratory but also. He mentioned the fact that they still refuse to let team see the medical records. How do you even have the conversation that well first of all you find out whether or not the sabers are interested in moving him and if they are then you have you know then you can start the process of trying to figure out what you would be willing to give up to get him but then you also have to make sure in every team has to make sure you've heard chicago anaheim and all these other teams that would be interested. The the king's obviously would be interested. You have to make sure that the medical pans out that he's going to be okay. I hope he's okay for his own career. But i would be very very reticent to say. Yeah i want to add him right now without knowing all the medical particulars. You have to be specific. You have to know and you have to talk to the top doctors in that field. And you've got gotta find out whether or not this is a waste or somebody that yes can play the next six or seven years at a very high level not to mention what you've got to give up. He's not he's not signing him. You have you have to give up things you're not signing your accepting ten million dollars a year contract which is a lot in today's nhl simply because it's a cap sport and Temp bay lightning. And you couldn't circus get the cap weaver and then go steal a stanley cup. But that's the nhl spot. That's not the lightning fault as i've said over and over again there's a competitive imbalances just ridiculous. It shouldn't be allowed but anyway that's another story for another day. As far as eichel is concerned. I would just be really really careful and make sure that i know exactly what the medical outcome potentially could be all right. And that brings me. Back to a similar topic damian lillard. So now you're starting to see what it might take to get him. Have you seen any of these stories. Because all of it's ridiculous. I i saw two first. Round draft picks quickly barrett Ob top and. i mean it's ridiculous to get a top five top ten player but about two first rounders this year which nineteen and twenty one barrett and quickly to damian lillard paired with julius randle and you haven't touched any other part of your team well see i think i do it. I think in that case. I i would yeah. I don't mind getting rid of quickly for him. There's no question about that. And then you can still bring derrick rose back and he can your backup point guard. And he's not going to pay play a lot of minutes as long as he plays like he played and he's going to be the force that he was coming off the bench. I'm all for that. I know that everybody wants a top flight win car. That's what we all want and as we all recognize year need we haven't had one. When was the last time we had really truly an all star point guard. I mean. I'm wa- frazier hall of famer. But we've never had anybody even remotely close may be mark jackson when he was a great player. Harry sure but i mean that's that's what we've been missing for years and years and years so i i'm all for that but i just wanna make sure that i keep the bulk of the team together and i and i want. I don't want mitchell robinson. That's one guy i do not wanna lose. And if you're going to have to give up j barrett in quickly to get. They mean littered with two first round draft picks. I would most likely do that. I think you do it every day. And then i would try to. I would try to get another wing score. They need another wing shooter. They have good shooters. There were one of the three point shooting teams this year which was kind of odd maybe. Ob top and we'll be a little bit better next year. I don't want to get rid of him yet either. I want to continue to him. The grow and i want you know. He's a local kid. He's from here once. I wanna see him grow here. I want to see him. Be a part of the The foundation here. I don't think we saw enough of him this year to really make a determination but i'm sure the basketball experts within the next including tom tippett. Oh maybe saw something there towards the end of the year that they feel like they can build on but yes they need a point. Guard and damian lillard would be either here ball would be the two guys that i would definitely go after everybody else. Spencer dinwiddie all these other guys. I mean i think they're just average you know what he's go- he's really good. The question is going to be one hundred percent off the surgery and the other question. Is this kenny. Go against kyrie irving kenny. Go against trae young kenny. Go against all these other great player that the knicks are going to be seeing and the other story that came out was looks like minnesota really wants. Ben simmons for some reason like okay. Take them what they're going gonna pay for them. You want them. I can't imagine that kid back in philadelphia. I just can't after after what happened in the playoffs this year and how those that ban based turned on him. I just don't see that. I just think just to finish the lillard thing. We'll take a break. Just the one thing about lillard to me to your point about still needing this a wing player. Yes here's what. I know you get the point guard. Be you get the star all wrapped into one. You've got the up and coming star in randall. That is a very attractive place to go for another correct and they have plenty of room under the cabinet. Do the fit another person. Whoever that person may you can pay lillard and you can pay another guy to come here when all of a sudden championship caliber team. Yeah i don't know who puts out all of this stuff in terms of what it would take to get a guy like damian lillard but i mean if you're if he's unhappy with what's going on and he wants a change of venue you have to take that into account if you're the team trying to acquire him except for the fact that you're going to have i would think multiple teams trying to get him a guys like that. Don't become available every day and we are talking legit. I know greg says top. Whatever top doesn't matter you're talking top. Ten on damon game is not always a great point guard and he's a great leader. A on his team is also a really good shooter. I don't think people realize how good of a shooter he is. So that also takes pressure off of julius randle. I think you've got a chance to get a superstar and really keep the majority of the team and what you built intact. I really do and then you could also bring back. Derrick rose and he doesn't have to play significant minutes fifteen minutes a night. I come back and play here. And i hope i. I hope he understands that. Well of course you would understand. Damian came here then he would definitely be the backup but that would be the best case scenario for the next. You know i want to keep mitchell robinson nerlens noel. I want those guys. Those guys are good defenders. And i still. I still think we have not seen what mitchell robinson can be yet. I still think that he could be a major force in the middle rebounding defensive. Long arms everything that you want in the nba From a defensive perspective inside the box. So i to me. That's the guy that. I don't want to get rid of each the morning show with boomer esiason and gregg giannotti boomer and geo.

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"Tracy and noah you elo yon say trash draw hello and welcome to ninety day. Fiance trash talk this episode one hundred eight. I'm your host comedian. Tracy cornell joined by my lovely guest co host shannon lee chasing hi shannon. I'm so excited for you to be here today because we actually got rid of noel. Finally our plan has worked. We got rid of noel. I suggested that she go on vacation. And then i just didn't allow her to come back. She fell for it. Yes she i mean. Who's the idiot i was like. Hey no while. Why don't you go on vacation for valentine's day and she was like where should i go and i was like. I don't know maybe the woods and that's it so no all is now in the wood and here we are and shannon is my new co hosts for the rest of my life so i'll come shannon or the rest of today at least at i'll take it okay. Whatever i mean listen is what it is. I'm so happy that you're here. I if you guys don't know who shannon is you should shannon's been on the show before. She's a very good friend of the show and shannon has another podcasts as well shannon tell us about your other podcast. Sure it's called. The thing is ding. We talk about bad dates fighting and ghosts and we have comedians reality. Tv stars musicians porn stars. Come on and talk about their experiences with the paranormal with mandates or bad sex. And i'm getting into street fights. Oh okay have you ever had someone that's gotten into a relationship with a ghost and then fought them no on that. That's going to be when i stopped the show when that story comes on that i'm done. Thank you're searching for. Yeah but i have had two stories like run into each other but not never all three. Oh also who. Who's been like a few your favorite guests on the show besides me in noel. Of course may god rest her soul. I've had the best ghost stories are like my favorite episodes. So i'm zac amigo. Hosaka migos manekshaw goes hilarious. Oh my god. His story was like it should be made into a movie. It was terrifying zack. Has an actual podcast about horror movies. And i'm wondering if he channel that i think he's like i think this was a dream. It might have been a movie. I'm not sure if this was real and also comedian. Mike cannon hosa virus by podcast. His story will gave me goosebumps and almost made me cry. It was like djing go straight. Yep there's there's the great ones there's a lot of fun. Oh my guy so guys make sure you check out china's podcast. Everything will be in the show notes so make sure you go down there. We're here to talk about season. Eight episode ten of ninety day. Fiance's before we get into that. I just want to introduce everyone that hasn't been already introduced to this app. Stereo that we have been using to go live every single wednesday night. We have a show on stereo called the trash talk after show. And it's no ellen. I every single wednesday night at seven pm eastern standard time. And it's amazing because what it is is like everything that we forget to say on the podcast or and we also interact with the listeners on this show and it's amazing so make sure you go to stereo dot com slash trixie to zini again. It's going to be in the show notes. So guys click the link. Make sure you sign up for stereo. You can listen. Live and ask questions or you can listen afterwards because all the recordings are there in the stereo out. That seems like so much fun. Because i know when i listened to this show i often speak out loud in to you and no wealth so i feel like he gives listeners. A chance to do that for real. That's exactly what it is you can say. How many times like. I do it all the time on podcast. I'm like no wait or like they're saying this is my biggest thing when people are saying things and it's wrong and they're or they can't think of the name of something and i'm like hello. Can you hear me now. we can hear you. And that's that's what. Sarah is all about so we're going to do that so now. Let's go into this episode season. Eight episode ten of ninety fiancee. We're going to start off with just the most beautiful well-matched romantic couple mike. And natalie. this is real love guys. Wow so she has learned the word of the day now. I don't know if she had worked for the day toilet paper as what i thought. Yeah or was teaching her the word of the day is she picking a word that she wants to know. How do we pick the word of the day. I was thinking that maybe she came across this word on television or something and kept throwing it at him show now. This is his way of being like. Why don't you tell everyone. What your word of the day because you keep saying over and over again you think. It's just some sarcasm. His yes so. The word of the day for her is controversial right. Isn't that what it is. yeah. I can't really read my own handwriting type. I type out. I should i really should but i gotta tell you. I think that the pain and the agony of writing longhand notes is really the punishment for me to from picking this career fair. Yeah so they go out to eat and heat is talking to her with an accent. Am i wrong on this. I didn't pick up on on that with them. This is a big thing on this show. It's i mean listen. It's a big thing in life. We've talked about this. So many times people speak to people with an accent With their own version of an accent yell they speak very slowly and they speak with sometimes. It's not even the same kind of acts. Like i don't even think this was kind of russian accent now. I missed it. I do have this in my notes for another couple right. yeah. I missed it for them. It happens a lot. And i gotta tell you. There's something that i've been thinking about a lot on. This is that. I am just like intrigued by accents. I really am dying. I just feel like accents are so cool making me how i just feel like. They all just the fact of have we have accents but we don't even know it. Yeah i get made fun of for my accent. Pretty often constantly. People think that i am like from. I was born in in the sewer in brooklyn and i feel like our accents. Aren't that strong. Compared to other new yorkers yeah not at all but it's just. It's so. I don't know like i think that obviously people mock people with accents and they use an accent to mock people. But i'm more intrigued than like. How did you come to pronounce that word like that like what happens. What is so different. I don't know. I need to take a class about this. This this is my new obsession. So there's forty five days left and she doesn't have address and he's like oh i think that's fine. It's they'll be no wedding right so don't even get address because we're just going. I'm gonna kick you out eventually so you know whatever feels it's felt like with this couple this whole season that he decided he doesn't want to do the show anymore. And hold the producers that in the producer like please just pretend and then he and natalie had a conversation he was like all right. We're going to do a show one more season and we're just gonna pretend that she says okay that's fine. He's forgets yet. No i think she forgets because he's just like let's just hang out and drink and have a good time and she is like what about the wedding right and he's like wink wink. Natalie i told you just getting the cash right exactly. And she's like mike. I'm not authorized to be paid by the show and he's like what i can't hear you. Your accent is is very strong right now. And i don't understand what you're saying. So why don't you shut up and just do the show with me. Is that what you think is happening exactly. So they have lots of work on and she wants to go to therapy and he goes no. Oh okay cool. Simple answer he kinda like poop. Who's it he does. I think his answer is like it's only a little bit of like the macho attitude of not wanting to show feelings been getting deep into emotions but it's mostly because he just doesn't care he just wants forty five days to finish and for her to go home. I know and he's like well. I don't want to spend a bunch of money on okay. Saving a lot of money on heat. She's like Mike byrne styrofoam the other day in the fireplace. And i got some kind of terrible poisoning while you're at work and actually blacked out for three to four hours. Could we spend a little bit of money on therapy. And he's like no. That's a waste of money just to keep those styrofoam it's very controversial. Because she's like my lungs. When i breathe out flames come out. He's like yeah. That's america so so he just he keeps talking in circles. He's not making any kind of sense. So it's forty four days to the wedding and they're cooking together very angry. They're not happy about the situation. She is cutting a potato. He doesn't want her to cut the potato. They had already cut a potato potato. I feel like they should never eat together. This is where rights happened. They shouldn't eat in the same room. Bay shouldn't but at the same time she makes shore that he allowed to meet so they have to shift to compromise. Somehow i would like to speak on behalf of all vegans for a moment or oh my god. That's range shannon. you're a vegan. Please give us a little bit of insight. Do you agree with natalie or not. I do not. I feel like i often don't even like to admit that. I'm begin because vegans vegetarians. I don't know what she has Like natalie that give us a bad name for She's constantly shaming him. She's every time he goes put something in his mouth. She's like that's the worst way to make somebody do. What you want to do is constantly. Shamed them for what they're doing right. He's like don't drink. Don't eat meat. And it makes them angry to where he does it just to spite her right but also Why are you a vegan shannon like what is. What's the behind your your choice. So i originally gave it a shot. Because i wanted to lose weight and be healthier and I had never done it before. I was on i was in the mindset of meat is good and i don't feel like it's a good thing to give it up and then i was reading a bunch of books and i was like let me give it a shot and a a a few weeks in started to feel better. I started to lose it a little bit of way. Didn't i miss cheese. I'm going to be honest. But i didn't. I don't miss meat very much. And now it's been a little about almost a year and a half. Wow that i've been. And i mean i didn't do it for animal rights purposes attempt to feel better exactly. Yeah and i don't think everybody should be. I feel like do whatever the hell you wanna do. But it just it works for me. Look at that like just just worrying about yourself. is that what. You're doing that so crazy now. I cannot tell what her reasoning it so we do see that she does eat fish. So i'm assuming that she some kind of pesca -tarian which is like. I said your choice and like you said your choice also. It is odd that the one animal. She chooses to eat fish yet. She's so protective of them with the sound of the fireworks right. So here's the thing you can't scare them but you can kill them exactly yes. Sneak up behind them and kill them. Just make sure they're sleeping. Yeah before you murder them. You don't want to spook them up. Is everyone knows that everyone knows. You don't scare a fish. That's a ancient proverb what happens. It's like seven years bad luck when you take a mirror. Ten years in the would if you scare a fish with the firework that's the thing so the thing is like i don't know is she's doing this to maybe just control them but also to fasching him. Yes there's a ton of fat shaming going on. Yeah she definitely i mean. I don't want to jump ahead. But i usually try not to watch the coming attractions. But yeah if they will. She has mentioned it before too where she calls him. Low class like. She thinks that he is winning the lottery by having by being graced by her presence and that she is not allowed to treat him however she wants that attitude so now she says something worse so she's cutting the extra potato and she says this is a quote. Thank god noel is no longer co host on the show ever again because this is the quote. I get chills. Just thinking about how she would react to this. She says i hate butter so i hope she's not even listening right now because if she's listening she's not gonna make it through. He's like you know. I want you to be fun. I want you to chill out. And then he goes to the fridge to get a beer and this is his quote. Oh no there's only one left. I feel like she doesn't like the drinking. Which is it's fine but also like you got him like that uh-huh you really can't change people yet. Also my favorite quote of her in this scene is her saying. I'm pretty fun. When i wanna be fine. So basically she just doesn't ever want to be the mine never ever wants to. But i do think that he knows that she hates the drinking so he goes hard on it exactly. Yeah yeah make the announcement. He has to smack his lips when he drinks. He has to go after every sip. It's so much sure it is a that is something that he does. It annoys me when they went into that little shop and he wanted to buy the decanters or whatever. Yeah he but it's also like he's being she is shoving his face so much as his only way of kind of pushing back. I think i know but like maybe then. Just don't be with her or have an actual conversation with her and be like. Hey natalie. here's the deal. I'm going to drink and if you keep making comments you can go in the pond with the fish. And i'm gonna play. I'm going to start shooting off tons of fireworks. I'm gonna play the scaring game. He says no again about that. She's like hey just checking in to see where you are about the therapy. And he's like. Oh no no. That's what we're gonna do. You're gonna know way whenever she reminded us like. I dunno. I have megaphones dough. Certain sounds trigger me right when she says michael in constantly to get his attention but he's the other room. I have the same visceral reaction. To the sound of somebody chewing. He's just in the next name in the next room. There's nobody else in the house the other room known. I don't think there is another room. I think that the closet smells bad because that's where they cook cabbage so like i don't think i don't see another room per se. I see different angles of the same room. That's fair half partitions. But yet it's kind of looking open concept modular home. It's really just a beautiful thing. So he says no again about the therapy but then he goes to jane for his haircut and he sits down in the chair and he looks right in the face and goes do my hair like my mom. I want bangs like trash and she was like michael finally. Finally you're coming to and understanding. So they talk about natalie a little bit and she says this is a quote. What are you guys disagreeing on. And then he looks her right in the east and goes mostly buttering aliens. I couldn't believe like most people you know butter aliens also her engagement ring. And she's like. Oh cool when. I go on a date just getting if i'm getting if you are. Do you think that she is legitimately. Because she does. Get a little flirty. Do you think it's legitimate or do you think this is a production plant. No i think it's legitimate. I think that's why they chose her because she's probably like beyond tv with my tricia son miche with the bangs. Oh my god. Maybe he'll let me do the bangs on him. There are much better couple. They will love eating and drinking together. This is so true though. He needs to find butter lover. Likes the would but now they talk about like her not having a ring. Yeah so the thing is is that she was i. Listen i don't like natalie but i also in this episode kind of almost saw her side of things for a little bit and i was like you know. I guess i've been in relationships before where you can paint me as the villain when you don't really know what goes on. Besides that. so yes. She gave him the ring back but like what really happened. He was making her feel so bad that she didn't know what else to do to kind of get his attention. Yeah maybe refresh my memory. But from what i remember of that whole thing was when they were in russia the ukraine that it's not see. Here's the thing it's not not a different place. Okay like it kinda used to be part of got it. Yeah natalie's home very natalie in natalie or natasha's home question that they. They had the interview where she refused to say that she loved michael. Okay so that was on the towel okay. So that wasn't the catalyst to their whole fight. No i don't think it was afterwards. Or maybe she said it twice. She might said it twice. Because i remember she did say on the tele but she might have said it in the confessional as well okay. Yeah because i have a hard time remembering like what. Their big problem was when he left. The big album was that she wanted a baby. Okay right now and he was like yeah. You don't even live like we're not even approved for the and she's like it's fine. Just put a baby me right now. I will cook it here. I will cook it here and then i will burn it in the closet. And he's like you haven't seen my my my set up yet so i think maybe you should. You should put the brakes on the baby and come over. I and see if you like it here right. I remember that. Was i think a lot of it so she so she's gene is cutting hair and she's talking while she's buzzing his hair but the greatest thing about this audio is that you can't hear her she's just buzzing took the television. The buzzer very loud. So i don't know if maybe they should have recorded. we're podcasters. Maybe they should have recorded the buzzers track separately. I've been lowered it just to give the buzzing a fact or made her pretend to buzz and then put a little buzzing sound effect in at a very low volume. You should write a letter okay. I'm gonna see what i could do. so now. He winds up going to couples therapy with her and they need doug and mike is like listen. I'm expecting a call from one thousand nine hundred seven. So i'm gonna keep my blue tooth year piece in because i also am a taxi driver on the side. I need to make sure that. I have this bluetooth in my ear during this entire therapy session. I feel like this was an easy way for him to instead of like just constantly having has is rolling right through the whole session. He's able to just signify how much he does not give a crap with think that he was listening to ninety day. Fiance's ashok maybe. Hi mike mike. If you're in couples therapy right now within the natalia slash natasha we we don't we used to be on your side not so much anymore but we do. I mean i say okay to butter. A shannon is like earth balance so he has this thing this thing in his ear that i cannot believe and doug is like guys. What do you think that the biggest problem is and natalia. I like to call him to tell you now. By the way talia is like it's very hard to communicate with him because he's always on the phone with someone with a bluetooth is year and i was like. Do you think that maybe the bluetooth is part of the problem. He's like what blue what bluetooth. This is part of my ear now. I think that they could not have picked a worse therapist for to sit with them. I think he was terrible in my personal. Tell me why what stuck out to me i. This is just a stupid thing but it annoyed me. I felt i'm on mike side. I felt his annoyance the entire session. But when when they walk in the therapist says this is the spot. Pick your favorite seat. There's just a couch there. There's just a couch and how do you know maybe there's something that you can see. Maybe there was a tiny hammock hanging from the ceiling. Maybe there was a swing. Maybe there was some pillows on the floor that they can lay down when you you were in school. Guidance counselor's office and they're like if you want to sit on the floor there and just lay down. And i'd always be like yeah. Of course. I want to just lay down. Can you also not talk to me great. I'm sorry i didn't realize you didn't receive a whole room. You just saw the one couch area. I feel like a lot of therapists. Do that though pick your favorites. They do. I'm telling you like every therapist office. That i've been inside of because now everything's virtual It's so crazy because they do say like sit wherever you're comfortable. And they usually have two options. One of them is more of a city thing and one of them were as a lay down kind of option. I always pick the city but also sometimes like i've been to their office where they go hard like chair and then they have a couch. I'm not gonna lay on anything. But i will sit on the couch before. I'm going to sit on the chair. That's fair. yeah so we don't know. I think that you need to hold your judgment on that. What else was it about. Doug so i feel like mike could be one over But whenever mike now. I feel weird calling him. Mike feel like you need the same michael but whenever the 'sorry michael anti. I'm gonna change my notes for natasha. It's whatever you feel comfortable calling her whenever he. I feel like the key things that he said. The therapist just glossed over For example when he said. I don't think we're in love with each other anymore. The therapist and this is obviously. This could be heavy editing yet editing. Because i don't okay so she did say that she wants to express to him that it was hard for her to leave her country. And this is a quote. Now i live in the would says my favorite so he ignores her emotions right and he claims that he tried to make her feel comfortable. Now listen again. Never on her side before. But now i kind of am because okay shannon you have your boyfriend coming from scotland. He's have a great so he's coming to your house and he's gonna come live with you. Are you doing anything to pay for his arrival. Yes yes i do agree with you here especially during. I would have in the fridge. Things that he likes to eat. Like our cater. The place as much as i could his preferences i understand what spot to sit in. He wouldn't be would put the hammock up. You put a little bean bag chair on the floor. I understand see. I would even see. I don't know if this is a woman thing though like i might say like. Oh you like lasagna. And i would have made a lasagna. Kept it in the fridge for some grab and go meals because remember. He's going to be in the house and you're going to be off at work right so now instead of him having to cook every meal just like the first few days maybe he could just unwind. Heat up some liaison. You know. that's fair. Yeah and i do think this may be a woman thing. Because i don't think there has been a single man on this show. That has ever done anything you. And what was his name. Eric in something is the guy can't remember. Now i know all lead lead. Yes yes yes yes. We'll blow up the couch. That was effort you right. I'm sorry and he also made the boxspring so they can lay down on it so he did do a lot of the. I don't know what it is. It's like why wouldn't you want these people to be happy like comfortable in your home. That is now going to be their home. And i do think that he did not really prepare now when he said that they aren't in love i think he was paying her back for what she did at the tell all and how what we were just talking about how she said in the confessional that they are not in love anymore or that. She doesn't love him. Yeah don't agree. I feel like. I feel like after him being angry about that. Whole situation that that it's now actually worn off for him because even when she was first coming back here right and like her visa was approved. He was kind of like all right. I mean i guess. I guess we have to do it now. Be sure where proves shy. But i don't think that those feelings have ever actually his heart wasn't in it. Yeah and i think this is him actually finally admitting that and from what at least is shown to us by the editing of this. It appears that the the therapists never asked him to clarify. Never made sure. Natalie hurt well. He definitely didn't clarify. Because i will tell you this but again. I think this is the editing he was like. What do you want to hear from her. And then i didn't understand anything that he said. I played it back ten times. And i was like. I think this is bad editing. Because i'm not sure where this conversation is fitting in. It's true also One other thing that natalie said when she said that He wasn't carrying about her emotions are trying to understand how she feels but there were times that we saw at least where he said. Tell me what your when. She had the tantrum outside in the woods and she walked away and he said. Tell me what you're feeling like. Use your words. Like i don't i don't know so. He has attempted to talk to her and ask her what feeling but she is just shuts down right. She was like. I'm gonna kiss this tree on the so. Just leave me alone now. He goes outside from the therapist office and the producer astor. Ideally asked them. Ideally what would he like and he says in an ideal world. He wants to get married and have kids. But maybe not with natalie. I think they meant in an ideal world. What would happen with natalie. I don't know. I don't know they did leave. It pretty open ended right. But yeah i i think that's just more to. He's he's checked out but there was a little bit of emotion that came over him at the end of this was maj way he was annoyed. He's like are you guys gonna pay me or no. I take this phone call already. He's like i have had someone on hold for forty five minutes so please let me get back to my phone call. Thank you so much. Now we talked about how natalie says again quote. I hate butter and that is just the wrong way of thinking because there really aren't any quote unquote bad foods. That's that's the whole thing and that's what we really have to think about when we think about the kind of way that we eat because when you think about everything you've ever learned about getting healthy. There's a lot of contradictory information out there and things like that old fashioned food pyramid aren't much help but you understand what i'm saying right. A.k.a vegan butter all right and eating better to feel better understanding cravings and knowing how to shop and knowing that no food is quote unquote bad is very very important and neum will help you make better choices. Because it's based in psychology and it teaches. You y you make the choices that you do. And it gives you the tools to replace your habits with healthier once. They use cognitive behavioral approach. And it means that you're not just losing what you're building the habits that you need to keep it off because you're human and neum is forgiving and if you go off track you'll be back on tomorrow. The thing that i love about new is that it really does encourage you to eat more vegetables. I'm on board with. I think. I know and it's just something that like. Sometimes i just never really thought about you. Know you're always like looking at what you're eating and you think about what not to eat but you don't think about what you do want to eat. That's and that's a that's a big thing and there's a science to getting healthier. It's called neum so sign trial today at neum n. o. m. dot com slash trash-talk. You can learn how to eat again with neum. Sign up for your child today at noon and dot com slash trash talk. Are you ready to learn how to live healthier. I think you are so sign up for noon today. At n o o. M. dot com slash. Trash talk all right. Now let's move on to Yara and hobie hoving. They're going to have an engagement party in the bio and now she meets his dad very exciting his and he also was supreme. Sweatpants on miss. This guy is major major douchebag. Ary yeah i mean like a going into this scene. At first i was thinking. Well i yar seems like. She's not on point she only has one layer slayer of makeup on like probably tired and she starts off kind of a little crappy. I never know if. I can curse in the show or not absolutely correct. Okay so your mom listens. I don't wanna be offensive curse. I just don't okay. Ken okay so i don't care if she i don't care if Yes she hates you. That is what it is. It's not gonna buy paper towels from cosco. She's still going to them for me. You know what i'm saying. I got it. So he started typing. Yara didn't have great bedside manner while speaking to hove as father because she was. I think she was tired. I think she was angry. I think she doesn't feel good. And it's like these people are there to judge her. Yeah because he immediately like bit back like his bedside manner was even worse than hers. Was there to her. He hadn't met her before he was at work when she arrived. He makes it like. She's a package right when ups dropped her off. I was at work so we left her by the back door and that is how they treat her. They don't treat her like a human being ope. she is an import. They imported her so his mom. Gwen is having fifty to sixty people at this quote unquote small party. So when is looking at her and lying to her fees. And while gwen is lying ho v is of course. He's drinking and she's like they're like how do you like new orleans. She's like oh. I don't like it at all. I get very scared to walk around the other. Okay what's his name monte. I think i called them. Marty his name is monty down. He said oh yeah. It's very dangerous for a woman that dresses like you. I've seen that The way that you dress. I've seen pictures of you. So he's basically implying that might be mistaken for a hooker. This makes me so angry. This first of all and she i mean. She backs herself up. Yes up well. But it's like when when i'm on vacation isn't often but i would never wear the outfits that i wear on vacation anywhere else. So what you're saying shannon. I'm just trying to understand that. So when you were a bikini at the beach when you're In puerto rico okay. You don't wear that on the subway in new york city doesn't that's just i'm just trying to figure this out. So you've saying you're saying that you have dressed in maybe like a sexy way right at an event that it's appropriate for and then not warranted at four. Am walking in a dark alleyway. In naxi so weird. Because i think that whatever you put on social media is just how you always are. Also i am on her. I don't love new orleans. I era. I've only been there one time. Maybe a younger people place okay. But it's also like. I don't know if she understood what she was coming into. Because i think that. Listen i i like new orleans. I don't wanna live there but a lot of people feel it about new york city. That's you know. And it's also you know different neighborhoods different areas. So she just that's not her thing and remember something jovi really embraces the culture of drinking they're short and the partying and they have mentioned strippers four hundred times in just this one scene so he is living when they say like people say. I don't like new york city a lot of times. What they mean is i don't like midtown manhattan But when you really come down to it. No one really is spending their day to day life in midtown manhattan in times square standing under a billboard right. That's fair jovi is actually. He's like a permanent tourist in his own city. He's going to am store every day. That's the equivalent of going to the eminem store to do his grocery shopping. He's going to bourbon street every night. He's spending his evenings at strip clubs. Which again it's it's fine like i'm not shaming anyone but at the same time like i don't think that you know the lifestyle that he is telling you he's going to give her is going to happen if he still partaking. In that kind of behavior i agree. It's also i mean. I guess like the overall thing though is he has no business getting in a serious relationship. Moving somebody here to this country from a different country when he he wants to be a party boy which is fine then yeah exactly you. We're not shaming shaming him but quote unquote. We're not shaming him. But at the same time it's like don't drag someone into that. It's not like she's a party girl you know i will say that looks are deceiving. When she got off that plane i was like. Oh this girl is really going to be a handful and then you know she was like demanding things in the apartment and it's like when you really think about it. It's like oh she wanted a nice rug. That's it one. She wanted her prog. That's all she really wanted. Remarkably white rug. I would love one. She was she liked kerr. I really do like her now. The other thing is that his family is really trying to push the narrative that almost like she's a mail order bride from the ukraine. Right and i love a obviously could have been done in a better way but when they said her everybody who lives in new everybody to america every body from the ukraine wants to come to america every single by and she says she comes back she can never my dream. She's like look around. Look at this guy. This was my dream. A nightmare swamp. Yeah that was major. So she's she's like okay fine. You wanna see that all ukrainians wanna come to america. She's like that's like saying all americans are stupid. Because that's what people in the ukraine say about american vern. I mean it was the perfect response much fat lazy and stupid. Just you just said that. She's like no. I know i mean. I think that we're proving her quite right with her current relationship so she would like to move to budapest eventually. And i like how she comes out first meeting with her father and she's like. Oh yeah you're going to like kind of bullying me. I'm going to tell you the things that are going to make your head spin also. They're they're accusing her. Of just wanting having this quote unquote american dream and just wanting me to america. She immediately says. I don't wanna live in this country and now they're switching over to. She wants to take our son away so like which you just wanna hate her for any reason. They're so afraid to lose him and his mom says this is a court. I don't want him moving to europe. They okay so here's the other thing right. They seem very uncultured and like the small town like this by you mentality and yet if his dad has the same job that he has his dad has been traveling the world for a very long time. So i don't know why. They seem so oblivious to other cultures you i though when when he is travelling he may be just traveling with his group of workers and not really experiencing those cultures may cause his mom was like europe pretty general also they he saying to To them that they have to decide soon where they wanna live because after they get married. It's gonna be too late. Why why after you get married you just have to stay in one place forever while they're saying that after they get married. It's not as easy to get to divorce her. She wants to move basically what they're saying. So now gwen is listen. We need to make your comfortable in the us. Because she can't take my little baby boy away and he's drinking. I know that it's weird but Jovis drinking and yarra wants to nap because she is pregnant and no one knows and so him and his dad go to a crawfish boil with his friends from the bio. And they're on their way there. Obviously gwen is driving them because they are alcoholics. At least they're being responsible. They're very responsible. Gwen will be there uber. Driver for the day and drops them off and the dad in the car is like did we lock up everything in the house. Do you think it's safe to have left her by herself. It's you know. I am yes and i am on board with Jabbing like jokes are may be slightly offensive. I would say working guest digital network. I am on board with that kind of humor. Sure however if you are trying to convince your parents that you are with this woman for love and that she is with you for love. Maybe don't always jump in on the jokes about your future wife trying to scam you on rob your family right. Yeah just like maybe wait until they get a little bit more acquainted or wait until they're married and then you can tell your parents that she's a hooker. You just wait though. Just give it a second. So they don't all of his friends don't think the marriage will last like two months two weeks blah blah blah and. Then one of his friends says how many. How long do you have to be married for her to be able to stay here and he says three years and they're like all right. Well that's how long you're going to be married. They're also imply. I can't wait until she sees this footage. Oh my god see honestly. I don't think she really cares. Like she didn't care because she doesn't care what sarah said either. Okay she's like these people. I mean nothing. I don't even care. But they do his friend frankie incline heap talking about how. He loves strip clubs. Yeah this is not just one time combo i mean. She is so hot though really is she's beautiful. She's got a banging body so it's like if you're going to. She's funny yes so if you're gonna get someone close to the appearance of a stripper you got it short right. It's like are you looking for a hotter girl. Not i mean. She's pretty hot agreed. Yeah yeah i. I do agree with that so now. She's getting ready for the party and she's in her dress and he's like. How much did that cost. And she's like oh a few thousand dollars she's just trying to shut him up and then as she's getting just he's sprinkling powder on his head. I don't. I was hoping i thought that i was coming here to show. And i was gonna make fun of that and you're gonna make me feel stupid by. I was hoping same. I thought you were going to make me feel stupid. I do maybe it was like a volume izing powder. Have you ever used that. Like on your roots. Where a little texture. Yeah it's like a little powder that you could sprinkle and it gives you texture so you get a little volume. So i've used like like a dry like is dry shampoo right just kind of like a power power but in spray form so there is some sort of liquid component to it but he he didn't just sprinkle a little bit on kept the whole bottle. Assault was in his scalp. I somebody both beam was like putting fish food bank. Exactly he didn't stop. It's not like he gave it a little sprinkle and then we removed onto the next product. Like there was a lot of powder in his head he has and then he says she says your hair looks like shit. He's like. I know i was like i wonder why. Because you're putting you just put old bay seasoning your head. He's like well. I just came from the crawfish boil. So was that not a good thing to put in my now she He didn't bring her any food. He brought her crawfish. she's pregnant. She feels nauseous right so she has morning sickness. And you know. He brought her leftover crawfish from crawfish. Boil that happened hours before. Can i just throw in really quickly. When they referred to the crawfish as red mud bugs. Yes is the most disgusting thing i've ever heard. Imagine life no. Yeah that is what they're called so gross. It makes me want to eat them so much less than i already don't eat them but also he's like he's like what are you mad at me for. I put in absolutely the least amount of effort possible to bring you something. He's like after everybody and touched all the food. I brought you cold crawfish. That had been laying out for a long time. And i know that you're pregnant and you don't like seafood but i made a made you a little doggy bag of my bugs. He like scraped it off the table hands for some of them are on the floor. But you just you just really boil them. Well you're not going to eat. Charlotte sign sanitize them. So she's like. I feel sick. I feel like i'm gonna throw up. And now i feel like i'm gonna throw a not even because i'm pregnant because i'm looking at. You bringing me crawfish. Thank you so much so she wants to tell his family that she's pregnant and he's like oh don't tell them because we're not even going to be able to see the doctor. Oh she says we're not going to be able to see the doctor for three months and he says but we can't tell them until we see the doctor she's like i mean i'm pregnant. I think he's hoping for the pregnancy to go away. Yes that he's like but remember what happened last time. We can cross our fingers right now. It's it's i do agree with you on that. I also understand that. People don't announce pregnancy for a while because of the risk of miscarriage and she does have a history of that so it's like maybe a little bit scary for him but i don't think that's where he's coming from absolutely not giving too much credit It's almost like hey you know if if you tell them you're pregnant again like me. They're going to think. Maybe i drink too much. So he's already hung over clash drunk y way before before they even leave for the party. And he's like aggravated. Here's like can we get to this party already. I think it's because his beer was getting low. Yeah for sure because when you stop drinking you get hung over. So i'm sorry. But the weiming the one he had in his hand literally like he's like i only have twelve car beers and it's a three minute drive. How are we going to get to the party. So she's annoyed at him and he doesn't know why she's mad at all. She's taking selfies of herself. And he's like you only care about yourself. She's like she's like you only care about your beer. And he's drinking in the car on the way now but he hasn't been drinking he okay. She called hollick and he says and this is a quote now ready. He said i only had five beers. I'm not drinking. And i haven't been drinking just warming up baby so you know i'm just trying to so you've only had five beers. Also she says that's a lie. She said that you said that three years ago so he's ahead at least beers and then he says he admits that he's had at least five but also that he's not drinking and he's not drunk just because you are not drunk off eight beers you know what that means that means. You have a drinking problem. That is not a bragging rate. He's like look i. I drink the whole bottle of cuervo. Adam fine yet. Maybe it'll tell people that used to actually data guy that when we would head out like go party or go to a bar or something he would fill a solo cup with a drink. Four the drive as he was driving. You know what that's called an alcoholic that it's called alcoa and it's called the cheap alcoholic. So i don't know why things didn't work out with you guys. I'm so sorry. And i don that's sensitive also then. He adds that she's stupid. So that's the icing on the cake. It's really great so to rican hazel. Let's talk about them. It's april twenty twenty. She's never driven a car so he lets her drive the lawnmower for practice. This is joe great right. I don't know. I would be scared to even drive a or not and you can do it. I'm going to send you over to virginia beach and we're going to get you some more driving lessons. Maybe you could be the third who knows forty one days left and she's on the elliptical their quit working out as a family. Everyone's on lockdown and now. She scared because she heard from the grapevine that her son. Harry has a fever. So she's try. She's she's crying shannon. She heard now from harry. Step mom that he has a fever. That was a while ago rumor. Has it rumor that she heard she read in the paper. That harry might have a fever. So now she's crying and tariq feel super guilty and she said the last time that she called his step mom she didn't call she didn't answer so now i'm assuming days later. She calls her back so she calls again. And ruby picks up and she. This is now. This is why i don't think the kennedy fever she says to ruby. Does harry still have a headache. And she says no and that was it. That was it it was like. Oh my god cold cured. She also translates that into you. She says she's feeling he's feeling way. Better thank you for asking. She's just like no so now. Harry comes on. He seems better right or he seems probably the exactly how he will anymore. Which is fine and and he's talking to wreak in his language and to rico's use your english. I don't like to wreak i'm gonna tell there's so many reasons why i don't like to make if you guys listen to last week's podcast. We covered bears all recovered episodes one and two and we saw tariq wrap so. That's the number one reason. I don't like him. I skipped it. Because i didn't want it. Felt about him. Honestly don't watch it if you want to listen to the episode. That's fine but don't watch the at all it was. It was uncomfortable. It was upsetting. And you know just not not because it was sad just because it was upsetting terrible now feel like tariq things he's the knight in shining armor saving hazel from poverty. He i'll say the next part before. I give you all like he's like oh i don't know she's gonna come here to my big american house and drive my big american lawnmower. I have two to three vehicles. i don't even know. She's seen a wheel before they all do this. Poll yeah. let's look carini poop. Water just liking your country. Look a trailer. Isn't that all you ever dreamed up. Look we put the dogs in cages. So much nicer than you house. Just roam free. Oh my god so now he also is okay. So harry is recovering from covid. Apparently from folded fake ovid. He's like you need to drink orange juice every day. He's like you need to overload your body with sugar as much sugar as you can. That's very good for you. And he's like we don't have money for orange juice so he says instead of sending twenty bucks over there so you can have orange juice forever. No no now. This kid's gotta do jumping jacks in the house. Because he can't play a side. Why did he. I am scared. He has custody of a child. Custody of a child with special needs terrifying. So now his daughter ari goes over. And she's gonna talk to harry on this video call and he points to harry and goes he's going to be your brother and she looks to tariq and she walks away and i gotta tell you that is the correct reaction for her three response. Yeah i'm like. Yeah i would too because it's just like why are you trying to force this. This is strange. So now hazel tells harry. It's going to take a very very long time to get him here. And this is a quote because there is a corona fan in. Was this really the plan. We plan to take harry over. So what you're gonna do is you're going to have. Harry live his whole life basically with his father and stepmother. Who's basically his mom. Because that's right that's how it works. And then you're going to rip him away and he could basically never see them again right but i mean like says she already didn't have custody in one couldn't afford it here yes alike not only like changes surroundings. As far as the people he surrounded by but different country language right everything and also. It's just heartbreaking. That says to him it's gonna be like forever. She's like listen. Don't get your hopes up on this. There is one corona here and honestly if you had orange juice have been making mimosas. But instead there is a corona and current is going to be doing jumping. Jacks and so just doing your jumping jacks also tariq teaches them how to do a jumping. Jack they don't have jumping jackson the phillipi. He's like anyone in the philippines. Have you ever moved your body now. Okay let me teach you this. American jumping jack secure. All this is a very good remedy if you have a fever if you fever and a headache what you need to do immediately as jumping jacks so that in mind if you feel good so just some jumping jacks art. We're gonna move on to stephanie and ryan she's teaching them how to hoop now. They're having a ton of fun her voice. It's very old. It's much older than she. Even is when i hear her voice. If you close your eyes. When she's speaking i think eighty five to ninety five. I agree. I sounds very very old. My may i send here. Is i hate everything. Yes i do not like either of them no he. Also i feel bad for him. Because i feel like he has not done a ton of research on michigan because he says that he wants to explore michigan with her. Now no offense to michigan but he lives in belize understand about people from tropical places. While i understand it. There's poverty so that that. I understand but exploring michigan is going to be more underwhelming than you know is probably equal amounts of poverty. Yeah it's i mean. It's not the great bolt. She also lives a lavish lifestyle. So it's going. It's not going to be his experience in michigan. So his mom she's like is your mom. Happy that we're together and we're in love. And she goes. He goes yes. She's so happy that it's going to be a good experience for me and that you're going to help me get a job. She's like yeah but she happy that we're in love and he's like yeah. That's what i just said that you're going to get a job and that you have a lot of money whether have a job. Not you're gonna pay me so have so we find out that his his mom has blocked her. I mean that's you have to be really bad if you are funneling money to somebody and annoy them so bad they block you. That's what i'm saying like cheese. Like i don't even want your money. That's how annoying. You are so what happened. Was we find out and we knew that stephanie was insane but this is really the confirmation so she got in a fight with him and she basically threatened him that she would ask for the money back for but but not all the money just months money because his mom didn't thank her or thank her working out the way that she wanted to be. And he's like yeah. My mom doesn't have to bend over backwards to you. Like if you choose to give money and you choose to help us out like you're choosing that from your heart rate also. It doesn't seem like they're asking her so if you do. Yeah so if you decide to do this. I mean it's very clear through to control him. Exactly yeah and Sorry am i would really like to take a time out to speak about. She wears three different outfits we saw in the first scene. Where she's there hulu right. She's wearing a rash guard as if maybe they're going surfing short white shorts and sandals. This just doesn't work. And i mean you're on vacation just like we spoke out with our earlier when you're on vacation you wear cute things. Sure your boyfriend that you haven't seen in ten months. Why why is this your choice of out. I'm gonna tell you. There are definitely areas that maybe she does not wanna show okay. Oh i thought you meant that. It's not okay for her to show parts of her body in that area in case assaulted. You know it's gross. Yes no not at all. I think that remember something now. i'm not body shaming her so ever but you do have to understand that she is a very vain person and that's what she cares about. She owns a med spa. Again nothing wrong with that. But she does Think that her appearance and her youth is the most important thing. Okay but so. I think that she's trying to avoid exposing certain of her body. Because i think like it's like this if you're fat and you wear something oversized and in a dark color. You think that no one thinks you're right. Stephanie things that if she dresses maybe like how a toddler dresses. That no one's gonna know what age she is the diaper a along shirt when she's wearing that onesie that snaps at her crotch she's wearing a body suit and A huggies it regardless of what your body type is you can dress cute without revealing. But she doesn't know that she doesn't know that she is she the way she dresses is very odd as well. I don't think that this is just who she is. There's there's always something that she's trying to hide or try to. Accentuate the these weird parts of her body. I think that her shorts always way too big on her. Yes is too big in in that next. Each is she's literally Gave the benefit of the doubt. And i wrote down t shirt dress. That's not. it's not a t shirt dress. Don't just his t shirt yet. But i think that she also likes back because she feels like like when you're in like you know when you're a teenager and you wanna wear your boyfriend hoodie. It bad no she but she wants everyone to know that they're together and then this young couple that's very important to her is that they're a fun loving young couple so his mom just just blocked her and she said that she's trying to keep them fed and keep the lights on and now she doesn't send them any money now that his mom blocked her so she asked him. How many thousands of dollars do you think i've sent you. He's like. I don't know i want you to leave me alone but also i mean still semi money but also leave me alone. He really you can see him like clenching his jaw as he speaks to her and like really restrains his respond on what she's like Tell me understand. like i understand. He's orleans she gives me money she gives you money. She gives me money. Just sh- calm down. Ryan calmed down ryan. You've gotten I don't know an unprecedent amount of money from her. Please ryan just be quiet. You could do this. Mom's already blocked her mom's already blocked. Refine we're gonna be okay. She's such a hero though she so his mother wants space from her telling fair and i mean they were like. Bff's when they were they were they or is this how she pushes herself on people and forces her to say i love you back to her. She's like say you love me or i'm not going to send the money. I love you. Stephanie she sends a scripted. she's like when i send you money. This is how you this is. This is what you say. Because i clearly wasn't clear before. She's very old in the voice. She needs to get a voice injection. Maybe at the medicine they can do that. So she stricken heavy. I think it's a lot of her problem. She is drinking very heavy and they still have not had relations since she's been there i think she's been there for four to five hours the way know. I couldn't tell how long she had been there. But she's checking in with her psychic so don't worry about it god they go to dinner and her. His mask is a picture of her. A it's another rebecca add. I wonder where he got that from. Or do you want one. I think that do you think do you think he makes them for himself or you think that she sends that now that was in her luggage and his mom's why do i have stephanie mass. Everyone in that town does. He keeps sending stephanie mass. I asked her for right money. She sent me seven thousand mass when her picture on it. She's like do you know much that's worth she's like. How many mass did i send you. Pay your bills while you eat the masks. She's been checking with her psychic. Thank god and he says that he doesn't believe in the psychics. He thinks like that kind of stuff is like the devil. And i understand that that is a religious belief. I think christians are not supposed to believe in psychics. Yada yada yada. And he's like listen. Do you think that maybe you tell maria so much about me. That she uses that to maybe influence her readings and she's like give maria any information. She tells her literally minute by minute. There like my best friend and i sent her transcripts of every conversation that we have so. She's like what if you want kids or something. Maria says you're going to look for a young girl that have kids with he's like i don't want kids. I don't want kids right now. And she's like wait a minute you just said right now and i think that what he means. I don't want kids until after you die. It's i saved enough money from you. And then i can have no. But i think that he could just wait until she ages out and then he could still have kids. It's fair so Okay so this is what i think about stuff any. I've been really trying to analyze. How i feel about stephanie. 'cause i don't hate her but then like i don't like her and what i have realized is that i feel like she is like if you ordered darcy for wish dot com. You would get stephanie. Stephanie is like a poor man's dorsey and darcy's already a poor man's darcy. I feel like that's like more credit than she deserved. I mean they're crazy in different ways. Right yeah i don't know there aren't very many redeeming things about her deafening well. Also we don't know we don't really know a lot about her besides her trying to kill her cat very slowly so nearer cat lady self admitted right. What do you think about her feeding the cat. Some play low fat key lime yogurt. It's insanity it's insanity. And i mean that doesn't to my knowledge occur in the wild right no. I don't think cats are trying to hunt down. Yo play yo fat yogurt in the wild. You don't think that there is a little bit like like tigers tiger's felines you don't think that there's tigers that are just looking for some key lime of it he's like. Oh my god two percent only it's gonna watch my weight over here so now four hours later rate everything seems fine four hours later we get this like almost like self taped footage s. He's leaving she gelling that he's lying and he said that he has a cab waiting and then she goes f off and die but she also of course says to throw in there in the heat of this argument. He says he has a cab. She says with what money is that really the milan important thing right now. It's probably a one dollar cab because he works at that resort. He's probably calling a golf cart to take him back to his room. That's harris him up. Arizona drives uber so that and she's already paid him. I think that stephanie needs a ton of help. And right now she's in belize. And i don't know if maria is the best person for her to be getting support from. I think that she should be talking to a licensed professional counselor. Like the ones that you can get when you use better help online counseling. I used better hop online counseling. I absolutely love it. If i was in belize and having anxiety because my boyfriend that was thirty eight years younger than me was giving me grief or if his mom blocked me like family issues. I would be talking to my therapist from better online. Counseling the services available for clients worldwide. And you can talk about your depression stress. Anxiety relationships trauma anger any kind of complex literally. Anything you share is confidential. It's convenient it's professional it's affordable and so many people have been using better help that they are recruiting additional counselors in all fifty states. I want you to start living a happier life today. And as a listener you'll get ten percent off your first month by visiting better help dot com slash fiance join over one million people taking charge of their mental health again. That's better help. H. e. l. p. dot com slash fiance speaking of mental illness. Let's talk about andrew and amirah at one. Sentence only was not a quote. I just have no. I hate them while he's going back home to california he's sue percents to go home alone to quote a world of confusion what a world and after his two week vacation in mexico. That's where you're not going back to a world's confusion you're going back to your mom's daycare you're gonna you're gonna do some cost plate your mom's daycare. I don't even think you worked there. I think you just go there so. He's looking at a mirrors deceit on the airplane that she still paid for. I'm sure do you think she paid her part of that trip. Yeah i sure do so now. His mom picks him up and he said that he misses every day. He's like. I missed her swimming with the dolphins. I missed her during a buffet breakfast. I missed her. When i was doing the walking tours. I missed atv tours. I missed is having talks tacos on the beach. I really miss her that much during the massage because the girl really did keep me a lot of company but i did miss her like in other ways. I didn't miss her when i was sleeping. Either because i slip diagonally on the bed. And i was happy for that but i do miss her all the time. So his mom's like oh has she talked about the detention center that she was in and he's like not really just because i was so busy like i was eating crepes. And then she like You know ooh so said. I was in jail and then i was like a mirror. I can't really hear you. you're breaking up. You didn't have like the best service you know. And then you know having yeah like. I'm having a margarita. Please tell me the story while. I'm drinking a margarita in the sign league. I don't want to hydrate from my tears like she didn't tell me also i didn't ask also. Yeah it was like. It's better that you should talk to a counselor about that. So this is what tossing around the idea of. Going to serbia. What tossing. who's who's you're tossing into her. You just keep tossing. It's her and she keeps not catching it. Because but it's so easy. So easy to go through serbia. You just listen. He wants her to do whatever makes her feel safe securing comfortable. So you know it's like if you have to swim from france to the us then it's like whatever makes you happy. Yeah like i just go to. A different countries speaks a different language. And then you know. Hang out there for fourteen days by yourself right here. I am seven to ten percents. Sure that she won't go back to his attention center. So i don't know. Serbia seems like a really good established. Country what what. i think. She's going to be fine. Like i don't know why she wouldn't want to. I wanna live in serbia right now. I was thinking maybe even she could go through. Maybe the middle east and just stay there for a little while maybe through e gel like maybe jordan or You know what. I was saying serbia. I meant syria. I was saying maybe she should go to syria for a little while. There is a lot of. there's a little bit of unrest. But like in all the confusion she probably just slip right into the us so maybe she should do that. His chihuahua greets him. It's so cute though. That's my only part that i liked. I know i really did like it. But i was also hoping that someone was watching it. I do the same thing. The show our just like holding down the fort starving so now we look at the giant tiger on the bed and he has a gift basket for her for her winning getting to america which she did not win. She didn't win the prize iphone. A five hundred dollar zab. Id card because we can't trust her with more than that. We could never just give her access to our money. She gets five hundred dollars and five hundred dollars only and then the bear its name is garrett but they call gear and he puts it in the closet so he's pretending that he has all these stuffed animals for her to come over. He's like yeah. These were kids that well. That's not true but okay sure now if we're really being fair about speaking about mental illness. Let's talk about ziauddin rebecca. Oh boy i don't think there's a ton wrong would say said i. You know what since. He's been in america. no. I don't hate him at all. No i'm like. Yeah he seems pretty nice so he's face timing is niece and nephew and rebecca's like excuse me ziad no more talking to anyone that's not me. Come in the bathroom and see your surprise and she hands him some fake tattoos and then she says this is quote. You're ready. they're not real won't hurt. Don't worry they're not. I'm not going to needle them on. That's how tattoos word. Have you ever gotten tattoos. Show yes did you know when you when you got these tattoos shoes right so you have. You have two full sleeves or just just one. Okay you have fall asleep did you. Was that with water. You put that on. Yeah in my bathroom and then it just stayed on right forever. And you're like oh my god. I didn't know the real right. Well she She also mommy. Mommy has tattoos. So she wants baby to have time to look. Mommy has them but dc how. She shows her tattoos day but by making a muscle. What does that mean well because big strong mommy has now big. Strong baby's going to have tattoos. And then she also got babies some plato but he can't play on the bed because he has to play on the floor. Don't in the car bit concrete garage. Looks get real. They just hose it down after he plays. So she's like. Do you want maybe to wear them to meet my family. And he's like no no and she goes all you just want to just just for me. He's like yeah. Sure listen you said. I had a surprise. I thought maybe it was going to be a coach. You gave me a fake tattoo. Also could you possibly set him up for failure a little bit more. You want to stick a sleeve fake tattoos on your boyfriend before going to hang out with your daughter. No they're going to the rushed right and this is sad goes so hungry and then rebecca goes. I can't even say it. She goes this place so beautiful food. Okay so here's what's happening ziad. His english is pretty good. Rebecca's english is getting worse and ziad's is getting better. I thought that this was Even though we may have suspected in the past but this proves why he speaks that way yes so much beautiful because she did it he probably speaks fluent beautiful english and he's talking that way so he could communicate with her because that's how he thinks she talks. That's she's like you think just for me. He's like so beautiful so hungry. We have mac on all right so now she says like oh. You're going to be eating my family. I thought it was gonna be like. I dunno a family. No offense but it was her daughter and her boyfriend who they've already met and she's like oh they're going to have a bunch of them out because of course they're going to have to other people come out because they're looking to to pair him with people his age. So do you have any young people. He can hang out with sue now. They're all looking him when they opened the scene. Everyone's just looking at him like it's islands. Everyone just has a straight face but there has age. If we're really being honest. They're his age so now hannah is a friend of their. She's trying to make conversation and they were asking him. Like what is the biggest difference between here and there and she said if you kiss your boyfriend public to jail for six months and i just realized how many men i would like to travel to tunisia. Do you have any ex-boyfriends that you wish you were in tunisia with right now shannon very a so so many so beauty so so much rebecca's going to murder hannah. Yeah let's gonna. She's gonna hurt her in the face. Hannah is literally the only person that tree ten like a human being. She's on talking to him. Yeah she's asking. She's not asking him ridiculous questions. That having a legitimate conversation he even makes a joke when she person. Yeah he was. He's killing it and rebecca is just doing. Oh my god she but she's not even like a confident mad. She's like this uncomfortable. Kid like oh like sulking. And it's very like i had such second hand embarrassment. So now her son. Now i got to tell you. I think i was totally off about her son in law. I thought that he was very aggressive about ziad before he got here. And now i'm seeing like. Oh they treat her like a kid. 'cause she acts like a kid and he's actually just trying to be protective of her. I agree so he asked if They go hunting there and he said it's almost turkey seizing and maybe they can go turkey. Hunting together okay. I think that's adorable. Not that i like turkey hunting. But they're just trying that's that's the way they bond. What are we going to do about that now. She's gonna kill hannah and there's a band actually called. Kill hannah really. Yeah there is. there's a band. They used to hang out with them all the time when i was younger and i think that rebecca might have been the lead singer of so they as they had. What do you do. Usually when rebecca is at work. And he's like i watch a movie. You know play. Xbox he's been there for like four days and that's all. He has is an xbox and xbox a mattress so hannah is like she also rebecca things that while she's at work ziad is going to go to the storage space by himself. You can't drive and he's gonna move all the furniture by himself on his back by foot by. I hope the search space. I cannot fits couch shopping carts so hannah's like actually my family has a lot of trucks. A lot of flack beds first of all. Is your family in the trucking business or did you guys just have a lot of cars. I couldn't tell this was obviously so staged by the produce producers so. She's like rebecca confronts him in front of the whole table. And as i do you hear what she's saying. She's saying that she'll help you move are you gonna. You're gonna let a girl. A woman move your. I don't think she was asking to help him move the furniture in no. I can't do you need to borrow one of the cars car if you load it exactly and it doesn't it's just this whole scene blows my mind because also like i know that it's supposed to be while she's at work like an intimate business. You're in america. You don't let women in the house when i'm and he's like why i don't know what's happening. I really don't know what's happening. He's like. I speak better english the new rebecca and i still don't know what's happening now when she asks him i he's like yes so then she says it again he's like no i don't even know and rebecca's like this place so beautiful food so they all get up and leave without finishing their meals and like i don't know what i did. I think i did a bad thing. But i don't know what the bad thing was. She also thanked uses his culture however she wants to because when she's yelling at him. She's like You know what she's talking to the camera. She says i in his culture. They don't have single women and men and then at the end. She was like oh american. Women are different than how you're using your culture it just using it however she can. She's a crazy person. Like for real. And i gotta tell you i have so much more to say about her and i think we're probably going to talk about some of this on our stereo party. We have a trash talk after. Show every single wednesday at seven pm eastern standard time. 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Ep 108. So Beautiful Food

90 Day Fiance Trash Talk

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Ep 108. So Beautiful Food

"Tracy and noah you elo yon say trash draw.welcome to 90 day. Fiance trash talk this episode one hundred eight. This is episode 108. I'm your host comedian. Tracy cornell joined by my lovely guest co host shannon lee chasing hi shannon. I'm so excited for you to be here today because we actually got rid of noel. Finally our plan has worked. We got rid of noel. I suggested that she go on vacation. And then i just didn't allow her to come back. She fell for it. Yes she i mean. Who's the idiot i was like. Hey no while. Why don't you go on vacation for valentine's day and she was like where should i go and i was like. I don't know maybe the woods and that's it so no all is now in the wood and here we are and shannon is my new co hosts for the rest of my life so i'll come shannon or the rest of today at least at i'll take it okay. Whatever i mean listen is what it is. I'm so happy that you're here. I if you guys don't know who shannon is you should shannon's been on the show before she's a very good friend of the show and shannon has another podcast as well shannon. Tell us about your other. podcast sure. It's called the thing is ding. We talk about bad dates fighting and ghosts and we have comedians reality. Tv stars musicians porn stars. Come on and talk about their experiences with the paranormal with mandates or bad sex. And i'm getting into street fights oh okay. Have you ever had someone. That's gotten into a relationship with a ghost and then fought them no on that. That's going to be when i stopped the show when that story comes on that i'm done. Thank you're searching for. Yeah but i have had two stories like run into each other but not never all three. Oh also who. Who's been like a few year favorite guests on the show. Besides me in noel. Of course may god rest her soul. I've had the best ghost stories are like my favorite episodes. So i'm zach amigo. Hosaka me manekshaw goes hilarious. Got his story was like be made into a movie. It was terrifying zack. Has an actual podcast about horror movies. And i'm wondering if he channel that i think he's like i think this was a dream. It might have been a movie. I'm not sure if this was real and also comedian. Cannon hosa virus by podcast. His story will gave me goosebumps and almost made me cry. It was like djing ghost or yep. There's there's the great ones there's a lot of fun. Oh my guy so guys make sure you check out china's podcast. Everything will be in the show notes so make sure you go down there. We're here to talk about season. Eight episode ten of ninety day. Fiance's before we get into that. I just want to introduce everyone that hasn't been already introduced to this app. Stereo that we have been using to go live every single wednesday night. We have a show on stereo called the trash talk after show. And it's no ellen. I every single wednesday night at seven pm eastern standard time. And it's amazing because what it is is like everything that we forget to say on the podcast or and we also interact with the listeners on this show and it's amazing so make sure you go to stereo dot com slash trixie to zini again. It's going to be in the show notes. So guys click the link. Make sure you sign up for stereo. You can listen. Live and ask questions or you can listen afterwards because all the recordings are there in the stereo out. That seems like so much fun. Because i know when i listened to this show i often speak out loud to you and no wealth so i feel like he gives listeners. A chance to do that for real. That's exactly what it is you can say. How many times like. I do it all the time on podcast. I'm like no wait or like they're saying this is my biggest thing when people are saying things and it's wrong and they're or they can't think of the name of something and i'm like hello. Can you hear me now. we can hear you. And that's that's what. Sarah is all about so we're going to do that so now. Let's go into this episode season. Eight episode ten of ninety fiancee. We're going to start off with just the most beautiful well-matched romantic couple mike. And natalie. this is real love guys. Wow so she has learned the word of the day now. I don't know if she had word of the day toilet paper as what i thought yet or was teaching her the word of the day. Is she picking a word that she wants to know. How do we pick the word of the day. I was thinking that maybe she came across this word on television or something and kept throwing it at him show now. This is his way of being like. Why don't you tell everyone. What your word of the day because you keep saying over and over again you think. It's just some sarcasm. His yes so. The word of the day for her is controversial. Right this yeah. I can't really read my own handwriting. Type i type out. Should i really should but i gotta tell you. I think that the pain and the agony of writing longhand notes is really the punishment for me to from picking this career fair. Yeah so they go out to eat and heat is talking to her with an accent. Am i wrong on this. I didn't pick up on on that with them. This is a big thing on this show. It's i mean listen. It's a big thing in life. We've talked about this. So many times people speak to people with an accent With their own version of an accent yell they speak very slowly and they speak with sometimes. It's not even the same kind of acts. Like i don't even think this was kind of russian accent now. I missed it. I do have this in my notes for another couple right. Yeah yeah. I missed it for them. It happens a lot. And i gotta tell you. There's something that i've been thinking about a lot on. This is that. I am just like intrigued by accents. I really am dying. I just feel like accents are so cool making me how i feel like they all just the fact of have we have accents but we don't even know it. Yeah i get made fun of for my accent. Pretty often constantly. People think that i am like from. I was born in in the sewer in brooklyn and i feel like our accents. Aren't that strong. Compared to other new yorkers yeah not at all but it's just. It's so. I don't know like i think that obviously people mock people with accents and they use an accent to mock people. But i'm more intrigued than like. How did you come to pronounce that word like that like what happens. What is so different. I don't know. I need to take a class about this. This this is my new obsession. So there's forty five days left and she doesn't have address and he's like oh i think that's fine. It's there'll be no wedding right so don't even get address because we're just going. I'm gonna kick you out eventually so you know whatever feels. It's felt like with this couple this whole season that he decided he doesn't want to do the show anymore. And i hold the producers that in the producer like please just pretend and then he and natalie had a conversation he is like all right. We're going to do a show one more season and we're just gonna pretend that she says okay that's fine. He's forgets yet. No i think she forgets because he's just like let's just hang out and drink and have a good time and she is like what about the wedding right and he's like wink wink. Natalie i told you just getting the cash right exactly. And she's like mike. I'm not authorized to be paid by the show and he's like what i can't hear you. Your accent is is very strong right now. And i don't understand what you're saying. So why don't you shut up and just do the show with me. Is that what you think is happening exactly. So they have lots of work on and she wants to go to therapy and he goes no. Oh okay cool. Simple answer he kinda like poop. Who's it he does. I think his answer is like it's only a little bit of like the macho attitude of not wanting to show feelings been getting deep into emotions but it's mostly because he just doesn't care he just wants forty five days to finish and for her to go home. I know and he's like well. I don't want to spend a bunch of money on okay. Saving a lot of money on heat. She's like Mike byrne styrofoam the other day in the fireplace. And i got some kind of terrible poisoning while you're at work and actually blacked out for three to four hours. Could we spend a little bit of money on therapy. And he's like no. That's a waste of money just to keep those styrofoam. It's very controversial. She's like my lungs. When i breathe out flames come out. He's like yeah. That's america so so he just he keeps talking in circles. He's not making any kind of sense. So it's forty four days to the wedding and they're cooking together very angry. They're not happy about the situation. She is cutting a potato. He doesn't want her to cut the potato. They had already cut a potato splitting up potato. I feel like they should never eat together. This is rights happened. They shouldn't eat in the same room. Bay shouldn't but at the same time she makes shore that he allowed to meet so they have to shift to compromise. Somehow i would like to speak on behalf of all vegans for a moment or oh my god. That's range shannon. you're a vegan. Please give us a little bit of insight. Do you agree with natalie or not. I do not. I feel like i often don't even like to admit that. I'm a vegan because vegans vegetarians. I don't know what she has Like natalie that give us a bad name for constantly shaming him. She's every time he goes put something in his mouth. She's like don't eat that. That's the worst way to make somebody do. What you want to do is constantly. Shamed them for what they're doing right. He's like don't drink. Don't eat meat. And it makes them angry to where he does it just to spite her right but also Why are you a vegan shannon like what is. What's the the behind your your choice. So i originally gave it a shot. Because i wanted to lose weight and be healthier and I had never done it before. I was on i was in the mindset of meat is good and i don't feel like it's a good thing to give it up and then i was reading a bunch of books and i was like let me give it a shot and a a a few weeks in started to feel better. I started to lose a little bit of way. Didn't i miss cheese. I'm going to be honest. But i didn't. I don't miss meat very much. And now it's been a little about almost a year and a half. Wow that i've been. And i mean i didn't do it for animal rights purposes attempt to feel better exactly. Yeah and i don't think everybody should be. I feel like do whatever the hell you wanna do. But it just it works for me. Look at that like just just worrying about yourself. is that what. You're doing that so crazy now. I cannot tell what her reasoning it so we do see that she does eat fish. So i'm assuming that she some kind of pesca -tarian which is like. I said your choice and like you said your choice. Also it is that the one animal she chooses. Dita's fish yet. She's so protective of them with the sound of the fireworks right. So here's the thing you can't scare them but you can kill them exactly yes. Sneak up behind them and kill them. Just make sure they're sleeping. Yeah before you murder them. You don't want to spook them up. Is everyone knows that everyone knows. You don't scare a fish. that's a ancient proverb. Exactly what happens. It's like seven years bad luck when you take a mirror. Ten years in the would if you scare a fish with the firework that's the thing so the thing is like i don't know as she's doing this to maybe just control them but also to fasching him. Yes there's a ton of fat shaming going on. Yeah she definitely i mean. I don't want to jump ahead. But i usually try not to watch the coming attractions. But yeah if they will. She has mentioned it before too where she calls him. Low class like. She thinks that he is winning the lottery by having by being graced by her presence and that she is not allowed to treat him however she wants that attitude so now she says something worse so she's cutting the extra potato and she says this is a quote and thank god. Noel is no longer co host on the show ever again because this is the quote. I get chills. Just thinking about how she would react to this. She says i hate butter so i hope she's not even listening right now because if she's listening she's not going to make it through. He's like you know. I want you to be fun. I want you to chill out. And then he goes to the fridge to get a beer and this is his quote. Oh no there's only one left. I feel like she doesn't like the drinking. Which is it's fine but also like you got him like that uh-huh you really can't change people yet. Also my favorite quote of her in this scene is her saying. I'm pretty fun. When i wanna be fine. So basically she just doesn't ever want to be the mine never ever wants to. But i do think that he knows that she hates the drinking so he goes hard on it exactly. Yeah yeah make the announcement. He has to smack his lips when he drinks. He has to go after every sip. It's so much sure it is a that is something that he does. It annoys me when they went into that little shop and he wanted to buy the decanters or whatever. Yeah he but it's also like he's being she is shoving his face so much as his only way of kind of pushing back. I think i know but like maybe then. Just don't be with her or have an actual conversation with her and be like. Hey natalie. here's the deal. I'm going to drink and if you keep making comments you can go in the pond with the fish. And i'm gonna play. I'm going to start shooting off tons of fireworks. I'm gonna play the scaring game. He says no again about that. She's like hey just checking in to see where you are about the therapy. And he's like. Oh no no. That's what we're gonna do. You're gonna know they whenever she reminded us like. I dunno i have megaphones. Esto certain sounds trigger me right when she says michael in constantly to get his attention but he's the other room. I have the same visceral reaction. To the sound of somebody chewing. He's just in the next name in the next room. There's nobody else in the house the other room known. I don't think there is another room. I think that the closet smells bad because that's where they cook cabbage so like i don't think i don't see another room per se. I see different angles of the same room. That's fair half partitions but yet no it's kind of looking open concept modular home. It's really just a beautiful thing. So he says no again about the therapy but then he goes to jane for his haircut and he sits down on the chair and he looks right in the face and goes do my hair like my mom. I want bangs like trash and she was like michael finally. Finally you're coming to and understanding. So they talk about natalie a little bit and she says this is a quote. What are you guys disagreeing on. And then he looks her right in the east and goes mostly butter buttering aliens and i couldn't believe like most people you butter aliens also her engagement ring and she's like oh cool when i go on a date just getting if i'm getting if you are. Do you think that she is legitimately. Because she does. Get a little flirty. Do you think it's legitimate or do you think this is a production planted. No i think it's legitimate. I think that's why they chose her because she's probably like beyond tv with my tricia son miche with the bangs. Oh my god. Maybe he'll let me do the bangs on him. There are much better couple. They will love eating better and drinking together. This is so true though he needs to find butter lover likes the would but now they talk about like her not having a ring. Yeah so the thing is is that she was i listen. I don't like we also in this episode kind of almost saw her side of things for a little bit. And i was like you know. I guess i've been in relationships before where you can paint me as the villain when you don't really know what goes on. Besides that yes. She gave him the ring back but like what really happened. He was making her feel so bad that she didn't know what else to do to kind of get his attention. Yeah maybe refresh my memory. But from what i remember of that whole thing was when they were in russia the ukraine. Whatever that it's not see. Here's the thing it's not not a different place. Okay like it kinda used to be part of got it. Yeah natalie's home very natalie in natalie or natasha's home question that they. They had the interview where she refused to say that she loved michael. Okay so that was on the towel okay. So that wasn't the catalyst to their whole fight. no i don't think it was afterwards or maybe she said it twice she might upset it twice because i remember. She did say on the tele but she might have said it in the confessional as well okay. Yeah because i have a hard time remembering like what. Their big problem was when he left. The big album was that she wanted a baby. Okay right now and he was like yeah. You don't even live like we're not even approved for the and she's like it's fine. Just put a baby me right now. I will cook it here. I will cook it here and then i will burn it in the closet. And he's like you haven't seen my my my set up yet so i think maybe you should. You should put the brakes on the baby and come over. I and see if you like it here right. I remember that. Was i think a lot of it so she so she's gene is cutting hair and she's talking while she's buzzing his hair but the greatest thing about this audio is that you can't hear her she's just buzzing could took the television. The buzzer very loud. So i don't know if maybe they should have recorded. we're podcasters. Maybe they should have recorded the buzzers track separately and then lowered it just to give the buzzing a fact or made her pretend to buzz and then put a little buzzing sound effect in at a very low volume. You should write a letter okay. I'm gonna see what i could do. so now. He winds up going to couples therapy with her and they need doug and mike is like listen. I'm expecting a call from one thousand nine hundred seven. So i'm gonna keep my blue tooth year piece in because i also am a taxi driver on the side. I need to make sure that. I have this bluetooth in my ear during this entire therapy session. I feel like this was an easy way for him to instead of like just constantly having has is rolling right through the whole session. He's able to just signify how much he does not give a crap with think that he was listening to ninety day. Fiance's ashok maybe. Hi mike mike. If you're in couples therapy right now within the natalia slash natasha we we don't we used to be on your side so much anymore but we do. I mean i say okay to butter. A shannon is like earth balance so he has this thing this thing in his ear that i cannot believe and doug is like guys. What do you think that the biggest problem is and natalia. I like to call him to tell you now by the way tall is like it's very hard to communicate with him because he's always on the phone with someone with a bluetooth is year and i was like. Do you think that maybe the bluetooth is part of the problem. He's like what blue what bluetooth. This is part of my ear now. I think that they could not have picked a worse therapist for to sit with them. I think he was terrible in my personal. Tell me why okay. What stuck out to me. I. this is just a stupid thing but it annoyed me. I felt i'm on mike side. I felt his annoyance the entire session. But when when they walk in the therapist says this is the spot. Pick your favorite seat. There's just a couch there. There's just a couch and how do you know maybe there's something that you can see. Maybe there was a tiny hammock hanging from the ceiling. Maybe there was a swing. Maybe there was some pillows on the floor that they can lay down when you were in When you were in school guidance counselor's office and they're like if you want to sit on the floor there and just lay down. And i'd always be like yeah. Of course. I want to just lay down. Can you also not talk to me. great. I'm sorry i didn't realize you didn't receive a whole room. You just saw the one couch area. I feel like a lot of therapists do that though. Pick your favorite seattle. they do. I'm telling you like every therapist office. That i've been inside of because now everything's virtual It's so crazy because they do say like sit wherever you're comfortable. And they usually have two options. One of them is more of a city thing and one of them were as a lay down kind of option. I always pick the city but also sometimes like i've been to their office where they go hard lake chair and then they have a couch. I'm not gonna lay on anything. But i will sit on the couch before. I'm going to sit on the chair. That's fair. yeah so we don't know. I think that you need to hold your judgment on that. What else was it about. Doug so i feel like mike could be one over But whenever mike now. I feel weird calling him. Mike feel like you need the same michael but whenever the 'sorry michael anti. I'm gonna change my notes for natasha. It's whatever you feel comfortable calling her whenever he. I feel like the key things that he said. The therapist just glossed over For example when he said. I don't think we're in love with each other anymore the therapists and this is obviously. This could be heavy editing yet editing. Because i don't okay so she did say that she wants to express to him that it was hard for her to leave her country. And this is a quote. Now i live in the would says my favorite so he ignores her emotions right and he claims that he tried to make her feel comfortable. Now listen again. Never on her side before. But now i kind of am because okay shannon you have your boyfriend coming from scotland. He's have a great so he's coming to your house and he's gonna come live with you. Are you doing anything to pay for his arrival. Yes yes i do agree with you here especially during. I would have in the fridge. The things that he likes to eat like our cater. The place. As much as i could his preferences i understand what spot to sit in. He wouldn't be would put the hammock up. You put a little bean bag chair on the floor. I understand see. I would even see. I don't know if this is a woman thing though like i might say like. Oh you like lasagna. And i would have made a lasagna. Kept it in the fridge for some grab and go meals because remember. He's going to be in the house and you're going to be off at work right so now instead of him having to cook every meal just like the first few days maybe he could just unwind. Heat up some liaison. You know. that's fair. Yeah and i do think this may be a woman thing. Because i don't think there has been a single man on this show. That has ever done anything you. And what was his name. Eric in something is the guy can't remember. Now i know all lead lead. Yes yes yes yes. We'll blow up the couch. That was that was effort. You right i'm sorry. And he also made the boxspring so they can lay down on it so he did do a lot of the. I don't know what it is. It's like why wouldn't you want these people to be happy like comfortable in your home. That is now going to be their home. And i do think that he did not really prepare now when he said that they aren't in love i think he was paying her back for what she did at the tell all and how what we were just talking about how she said in the confessional that they are not in love anymore or that. She doesn't love him. I don't agree. I feel like. I feel like after him being angry about that. Whole situation that that it's now actually worn off for him because even when she was first coming back here right and like her visa was approved. He was kind of like all right. I mean i guess. I guess we have to do it now. Be sure where proves try. But i don't think that those feelings have ever actually his heart wasn't in it. Yeah and i think this is him actually finally admitting that and from what at least is shown to us by the editing of this it appears that the the therapist never asked him to clarify. Never made sure. Natalie hurt well. He definitely didn't clarify. Because i will tell you this but again. I think this is the editing he was like. What do you want to hear from her. And then i didn't understand anything that he said. I played it back ten times. And i was like. I think this is bad editing. Because i'm not sure where this conversation is fitting in. It's true also One other thing that natalie said when she said that He wasn't carrying about her emotions are trying to understand how she feels but there were times that we saw at least where he said. Tell me what your when. She had the tantrum outside in the woods and she walked away and he said. Tell me what you're feeling like. Use your words. Like i don't i don't know so. He has attempted to talk to her and ask her what feeling but she is just shuts down right. She was like. I'm gonna kiss this tree on the so. Just leave me alone now. He goes outside from the therapist office and the producer astor. Ideally asked them. Ideally what would he like and he says in an ideal world. He wants to get married and have kids. But maybe not with natalie. I think they meant in an ideal world. What would happen with natalie. I don't know. I don't know they did leave. It pretty open ended right. But yeah i i think that's just more to. He's he's checked out but there was a little bit of emotion that came over him at the end of this was maj way he was annoyed. He's like are you guys gonna pay me or no. I take this phone call already. He's like i have had someone on hold for forty five minutes so please let me get back to my phone call. Thank you so much Now we talked about how natalie says again quote. 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Now let's move on to Yara and hobie hoving. They're going to have an engagement party in the bio and now she meets his dad very exciting his and he also was supreme. Sweatpants on miss. This guy is major major douchebag. Ary yeah i mean like a going into this scene. At first i was thinking. Well i yar seems like. She's not on point she only has one layer slayer of makeup on like probably tired and she starts off kind of a little crappy. I never know if. I can curse in the show or not absolutely correct. Okay so your mom listens. I don't wanna be offensive curse. I just don't okay. Ken okay so i don't care if she i don't care if Yes she hates you. That's that is what it is. It's not gonna buy paper towels from cosco. She's still going to them for me. You know what i'm saying. I got it. So he started typing. That yara didn't have great bedside manner while speaking to as vase because she was. I think she was tired. I think she was angry. I think she doesn't feel good. And it's like these people are there to judge her. Yeah because he immediately like bit right back like his bedside manner was even worse than hers. Was there to her. He hadn't met her before he was at work when she arrived. He makes it like. She's a package right when ups dropped her off. I was at work so we left her by the back door and that is how they treat her. They don't treat her like a human being ope. she is an import. They imported her so his mom. Gwen is having fifty to sixty people at this quote unquote small party. So when is looking at her and lying to her fees. And while gwen is lying hove v is drinking. Of course he's drinking and she's like they're like how do you like new orleans. She's like oh. I don't like it at all. I get very scared to walk around the other. Okay what's his name monte. I think i called the mardi. His name is monty down he said. Oh yeah it's very dangerous for a woman that dresses like you. I've seen that The way that you dress. I've seen pictures of you. So he's basically implying that might be mistaken for a hooker. This makes me so angry. This first of all and she i mean. She backs herself up. Yes up well. But it's like when when i'm on vacation isn't often but i would never wear the outfits that i wear on vacation. Okay anywhere else. so what. you're saying shannon. I'm just trying to understand that. So when you were a bikini at the beach when you're In puerto rico okay. You don't wear that on the subway in new york city doesn't that's just i'm just trying to figure this out. So you've saying you're saying that you have dressed in maybe like a sexy way right at an event that it's appropriate for and then not warranted at four. Am walking in a dark alleyway in naxi. It's so weird. Because i think that whatever you put on social media is just how you always are. Also i am on her. I don't love new orleans. I era. I've only been there one time. Maybe a younger people place okay. But it's also like. I don't know if she understood what she was coming into. Because i think that. Listen i i like new orleans. I don't wanna live there but a lot of people feel it about new york city. You know and it's also you know different neighborhoods different areas so she just that's not her thing and remember something jovi really embraces the culture of drinking they're short and the partying and they have mentioned strippers four hundred times in just this one scene so he is living when they say like people say. I don't like new york city a lot of times. What they mean is i don't like midtown manhattan But when you really come down to it. No one really is spending their day to day life in midtown manhattan in times square standing under a billboard right. That's fair jovi is actually. He's like a permanent tourist in his own city. He's going to am store every day. That's the equivalent of going to the eminem store to do his grocery shopping. He's going to bourbon street every night. He's spending his evenings at strip clubs. Which again it's it's fine like i'm not shaming anyone but at the same time like i don't think that you know the lifestyle that he is telling you he's going to give her is going to happen if he still partaking. In that kind of behavior i agree. It's also i mean. I guess the overall thing though is he has no business getting in a serious relationship moving somebody here to this country from a different country when he he wants to be a party boy which is fine. Then yeah exactly you. We're not shaming shaming him but quote unquote. We're not shaming him. But at the same time it's like don't drag someone into that like she's a party girl you know. I will say that looks are deceiving. When she got off that plane i was like. Oh this girl is really going to be a handful and then you know she was like demanding things in the apartment and it's like when you really think about it. It's like oh she wanted a nice rug. That's it one. She wanted her prague. That's all she really wanted. Remarkably white rug. I would love one. She was she liked kerr. I really do like her now. The other thing is that his family is really trying to push the narrative that almost like she's a mail order bride from the ukraine. Right and i love a obviously could have been done in a better way but when they said her who lives in new everybody to america every body from the ukraine wants to come to america every single by and she says she back she can never my dream. She's like look around. Look at this guy. This was my dream nightmare this swamp. Yeah that was major. So she's she's like okay. Fine you want to see that all ukrainians wanna come to america. She's like that's like saying all americans are stupid. Because that's what people in the ukraine say about american vern. I mean it was the perfect response much fat lazy and stupid. Just you just said that. She's like no. I know i mean. I think that we're proving her quite right with her current relationship so she would like to move to budapest eventually. And i like how she comes out first meeting with her father and she's like. Oh yeah you're going to like kind of bullying me. I'm going to tell you the things that are going to make your head spin also. They're they're accusing her. Of just wanting having this quote unquote american dream and just wanting me to america. She immediately says. I don't wanna live in this country and now they're switching over to. She wants to take our son away so like which is you wanna hate her. For any reason they're so afraid to lose him and his mom says this is a quote. I don't want him moving to europe they okay. So here's the other thing right. They seem very uncultured and like the small town like this by you mentality and yet if his dad has the same job that he has his dad has been traveling the world for a very long time so i don't know why they seem so oblivious to other cultures you know what though when when he is travelling he may be just traveling with his group of workers and not really experiencing those cultures may cause his mom was like europe. Pretty general also they he saying to To them that they have to decide soon where they wanna live because after they get married. It's gonna be too late. Why why after you get married you just have to stay in one place forever while they're saying that after they get married. It's not as easy to get to divorce her. She wants to move basically what they're saying. So now gwen is listen. We need to make your comfortable in the us. Because she can't take my little baby boy away and he's drinking. I know that it's weird but Jovis drinking and yarra wants to nap because she is pregnant and no one knows and so him and his dad go to a crawfish boil with his friends from the bio. And they're on their way there. Obviously gwen is driving them because they are alcoholics. At least they're being responsible. They're very responsible. Gwen will be there uber. Driver for the day and drops them off and the dad in the car is like did we lock up everything in the house. Do you think it's safe to have left her by herself. It's you know. I am yes and i am on board with Jabbing like jokes are may be slightly offensive. I would say working guest joan that network. I am on board with that kind of humor. Sure however if you are trying to convince your parents that you are with this woman for love and that she is with you for love. Maybe don't always jump in on the jokes about your future wife trying to scam you on rob your family right. Yeah just like maybe wait until they get a little bit more acquainted till they're married mary and then you can tell your parents that she's a hooker. You just wait though. Just give it a second. So they don't all of his friends don't think the marriage will last like two months two weeks blah blah blah and. Then one of his friends says how many how long you have to be married for her to be able to stay here and he says three years and they're like all right. Well that's how long you're going to be married. They're also imply. I can't wait until she sees this footage. Oh my god see honestly. I don't think she really cares. Like she didn't care because she doesn't care what sarah said either. Okay she's like these people. I mean nothing. I don't even care. But they do his friend frankie incline heap talking about how. He loves strip clubs. Yeah this is not just one time combo i mean. She is so hot though really is she's beautiful. She's got a banging body so it's like if you're going to. She's funny yes so if you're gonna get someone close to the the appearance of a stripper you got it short right. It's like are you looking for a hotter girl. Not i mean. She's pretty hot agreed. Yeah yeah i. I do agree with that so now. She's getting ready for the party and she's in her dress and he's like. How much did that cost. And she's like oh a few thousand dollars she's just trying to shut him up and then as she's getting just he's sprinkling powder on his head. I don't. I was hoping i thought that i was in coming here to show. And i was gonna make fun of that and you're gonna make me feel stupid by hoping same. I thought you were going to make me feel stupid. I do maybe it was like a volume izing powder. Have you ever used that. Like on your roots. Where a little texture. Yeah it's like a little powder that you could sprinkle and it gives you texture so you get a little volume. So i've used like like a dry like volume is dry shampoo right just kind of like a power power but in spray form so there is some sort of liquid component to it but he he didn't just sprinkle a little bit on like kept the whole bottle. Assault was in his scalp. Somebody both to beam was like putting fish food bank. Exactly he didn't stop. It's not like he gave it a little sprinkle and then we removed onto the next product. Like there was a lot of powder in his head he has then he says she says your hair looks like shit. He's like i know. I was like i wonder why. Because you're putting you just put old bay seasoning all over your head. He's like well. I just came from the crawfish boil. So was that not a good thing to put in my now she. He didn't bring her any food. He brought her crawfish. she's pregnant. She feels nauseous right so she has morning sickness. And you know. He brought her leftover crawfish from crawfish. Boil that happened hours before. Can i just throw in really quickly. When they referred to the crawfish as red mud bugs. Yes is the most disgusting thing i've ever heard. Imagine life no. Yeah that is what they're called so gross. It makes me want to eat them so much less than i already don't eat them but also he's like he's like what are you mad at me for. I put in absolutely the least amount of effort possible to bring you something. He's like after everybody and touched all the food. I brought you cold crawfish. That had been laying out for a long time. And i know that you're pregnant and you don't like seafood but i made a made you a little doggy bag of my bugs. He like scraped it off the table hands for some of them are on the floor. But you just you just really boil them. Well you're not going to eat. Charlotte sign sanitize them. So she's like. I feel sick. I feel like i'm gonna throw up. And now i feel like i'm gonna throw a not even because i'm pregnant because i'm looking at. You bringing me crawfish. Thank you so much so she wants to tell his family that she's pregnant and he's like oh don't tell them because we're not even going to be able to see the doctor. Oh she says we're not going to be able to see the doctor for three months and he says but we can't tell them until we see the doctor she's like i mean i'm pregnant. I think he's hoping for the pregnancy to go away. Yes that he's like but remember what happened last time. We can cross our fingers right now. It's it's i do agree with you on that. I also understand that. People don't announce pregnancy for a while because of the risk of miscarriage and she does have a history of that so it's like maybe a little bit scary for him but i don't think that's where he's coming from absolutely not. It's giving too much credit It's almost like hey you know if if you tell them you're pregnant again like me. They're going to think. Maybe i drink too much. So he's already hung over clash drunk the way before before they even leave for the party. And he's like aggravated. Here's like can we get to this party already. I think it's because his beer was getting low. Yeah for sure because when you stop drinking you get hung over. So i'm sorry. But the weiming the one he had in his hands literally like he's like i only have twelve car beers and it's a three minute drive. How are we going to get to the party. So she's annoyed at him and he doesn't know why she's mad at all. She's taking selfies of herself. And he's like you only care about yourself. She's like she's you only care about your beer. And he's drinking in the car on the way now but he hasn't been drinking he okay. She called hollick and he says and this is a quote now ready. He said i only had five beers. I'm not drinking. And i haven't been drinking just warming up baby so you know i'm just trying to so you've only had five beers. Also she says that's a lie. She said that you said that three years ago so he's ahead at least beers and then he says he admits that he's had at least five but also that he's not drinking and he's not drunk just because you are not drunk off eight beers know what that means. That means you have a drinking problem. That is not a bragging rate. He's like look i. I drink the whole bottle of cuervo. Adam fine yet. Maybe it'll tell people that used to actually data guy that when we would head out like go to party or go to a bar or something. He would fill a solo cup with a drink. Four the drive as he was driving. You know what that's called an alcoholic that it's called an alcohol. That's called the cheap alcoholic so i don't know why things didn't work out with you guys. I'm so sorry shannon. I don that's sensitive also then. He adds that she's stupid. So that's the icing on the cake. It's really great so to rican hazel. Let's talk about them. It's april twenty twenty. She's never driven a car so he lets her drive the lawnmower for practice. This is joe great right. I don't know. I would be scared to even drive a lawnmower. You can do it. I'm going to send you over to virginia beach and we're going to get you some more driving lessons. Maybe you could be the third who knows. Forty one days left and she's on the elliptical. They're quit working out as a family. Everyone's on lockdown and now. She scared because she heard from the grapevine that her son. Harry has a fever. So she's trying. She's she's crying shannon she heard from harry step mom that he has a fever. That was a while ago. Rumor has it. Rumor has it. She heard she read in the paper. That harry might have a fever. So now she's crying and tariq feel super guilty and she said the last time that she called his step mom. She didn't call she didn't answer so now i'm assuming days later. She calls her back so she calls again. And ruby picks up and she. This is now. This is why i don't think the kennedy fever she says to ruby. Does harry still have a headache. And she says no and that was it. That was it. It was like all god cold cured. She also translates that into you. She says she's feeling he's feeling way. Better thank you for asking. She's just like no so now. Harry comes on. He seems better right or he seems probably the exactly how he will anymore. Which is fine and and he's talking to wreak in his language and to rico's use your english. I don't like to wreak i'm gonna tell there's so many reasons why i don't like to make if you guys listen to last week's podcast. We covered bears all recovered episodes one and two and we saw tariq wrap so. That's the number one reason. I don't like him. I skipped it. Because i didn't want it. Felt about him. Honestly don't watch it if you want to listen to the episode. That's fine but don't watch the at all it was. It was uncomfortable. It was upsetting and just not not because it was sad just because it was upsetting terrible now i feel like tariq things he's the knight in shining armor saving hazel from poverty. He i'll wait for you to the next part before i give you all like he's like oh i don't know she's gonna come here to my big american house and drive my big american lawnmower. I have two to three vehicles. i don't even know. She's seen a wheel before they all do this. Poll yeah. let's look carini poop. Water just liking your country. Look a trailer. Isn't that all you ever dreamed up. Look we could put the dogs in cages so much nicer than your house just roam free. Oh my god so now he also is okay. So harry is recovering from covid. Apparently from folded fake ovid. He's like you need to drink orange juice every day. He's like you need to overload your body with sugar as much sugar as you can. That's very good for you. And he's like we don't have money for orange juice so he says instead of sending twenty bucks over there so you can have orange juice forever. No no now. This kid's gotta do jumping jacks in the house. Because he can't play a side. Why did he. I am scared. He has custody of a child. Custody of a child with special needs terrifying. So now his daughter ari goes over. And she's gonna talk to harry on this video call. And he points to harry and goes he's going to be your brother and she looks to tariq and she walks away and i gotta tell you that is the correct reaction for her three responds. Yeah i'm like. Yeah i would too because it's just like why are you trying to force this. This is strange. So now hazel tells harry. It's going to go very very long time to get him here. And this is a quote because there is a corona fan in. Was this really the plan. We plan to take harry over. So what you're gonna do is you're going to have. Harry live his whole life basically with his father and stepmother. Who's basically his mom. Because that's right that's how it works. And then you're going to rip him away and he could basically never see them again right but i mean like says she already didn't have custody in one can afford it here. Yes so not only like changes surroundings. As far as the people he surrounded by but different country language right everything then also. It's just heartbreaking. That she says to him. It's gonna be like forever. She's like listen. Don't get your hopes up on this. There is one corona here and honestly if you had orange juice have been making mimosas but instead there is a corona at the current is going to be doing jumping. Jacks and so just doing your jumping jacks also tariq teaches them how to do a jumping jack. They don't have jumping jackson the phillipi. He's like anyone in the philippines. Have you ever moved your body now. Okay let me teach you this. American jumping jack secure. All this is a very good remedy if you have a fever if you fever and a headache what you need to do immediately as jumping jacks so. Just keep that in mind if you feel good so just some jumping jacks art. We're gonna move on to stephanie and ryan out. She's teaching them. How to hula-hoop now. They're having a ton of fun her voice. It's very old. It's much older than she is. When i hear her voice. If you close your eyes. When she's speaking i think eighty five to ninety five. I agree. I sounds very very old. My may i send here. Is i hate everything. Yes i do not like either of them and no he. Also i feel bad for him because i feel like he has not done a ton of research on michigan because he says that he wants to explore michigan with her. Now no offense to michigan but he lives in belize understand about people from tropical places while i understand it. There's poverty so that that. I understand but exploring michigan is going to be more underwhelming than you know is probably equal amounts of poverty. Yeah it's i mean. It's not the great bolt. She also lives a lavish lifestyle. So it's going to. It's not going to be his experience in michigan. So his mom she's like is your mom. Happy that we're together and we're in love. And she goes. He goes yes. She's so happy that it's going to be a good experience for me and that you're going to help me get a job. She's like yeah but she happy that we're in love and he's like yeah. That's what i just said that you're going to get a job and that you have a lot of money whether have a job or not. You're gonna pay me so have so. We find out that his his mom has blocked her. I mean that's you have to be really bad if you are funneling money to somebody and annoy them so bad they block you. That's what i'm saying like cheese like even want your money. That's how annoying. You are so what happened. Was we find out and we knew that stephanie was insane but this is really the confirmation so she got in a fight with him and she basically threatened him that she would ask for the money back for but but not all the money just months money because his mom didn't thank her or thank her working out the way that she wanted to be. And he's like yeah. My mom doesn't have to bend over backwards to you. Like if you choose to give money and you choose to help us out like you're choosing that from your heart rate also. It doesn't seem like they're asking her so if you do. Yeah so if you decide to do this. I mean she's it's very clear through to control him exactly. Yeah yeah and Sorry am i would really like to take a time out to speak about. She wears three different outfits through the we saw in the first scene. Where she's there hulu right. She's wearing a rash guard as if maybe they're going surfing short white shorts and sandals. This just doesn't work. And i mean you're on vacation just like we spoke with our earlier when vacation. You wear cute things. Sure your boyfriend that you haven't seen in ten months. Why why is this your choice of out. I'm gonna tell you. There are definitely areas that maybe she does not wanna show okay. Oh i thought you meant that. It's not okay for her to show parts of her body in that area in case assaulted. You know it's gross. Yes no not at all. I think that remember something now. i'm not body shaming her so ever but you do have to understand that she is a very vain person and that's what she cares about. She owns a med spa. Again nothing wrong with that. But she does Think that her appearance and her youth is the most important thing. Okay but so. I think that she's trying to avoid exposing certain of her body. Because i think like it's like this if you're fat and you wear something oversized and in a dark color. You think that no one thinks you're right. Stephanie things that if she dresses maybe like how a toddler dresses. That no one's gonna know what age she is the diaper in along shirt. When she's wearing that onesie that snaps at her crotch she's wearing a body suit and A huggies it like regardless of what your body type is. you can dress cute without revealing. But she doesn't know that she doesn't know that she is she the way she dresses is very odd as well. I don't think that this is just who she is. There's there's always something that she's trying to hide or try to. Accentuate the these weird parts of her body. I think that her shorts always way too big on her. Yes everything is too big. In in that next each is she's literally iphone. I gave the benefit of the doubt. And i wrote down t shirt dress. That's not. It's not a t shirt dress. Don't just it's his t shirt yet. But i think that she also likes back because she feels like like when you're in like you know when you're a teenager and you wanna wear your boyfriend hoodie. It abed no she but she wants everyone to know that they're together and then this young couple that's very important to her is that they're a fun loving young couple so his mom just just blocked her and she said that she's trying to keep them fed and keep the lights on and now she doesn't send them any money now that his mom blocked her so she asked him. How many thousands of dollars do you think i've sent you. He's like. I don't know i want you to leave me alone but also i mean still some money but also leave me alone. He really you can see him like clenching. His jaw as he speaks to her and like really restraints his respond on. Tell me understand. like i understand. He's orleans she gives me money she gives you money. She gives me money. Just sh- calm down. Ryan calmed down ryan. You've gotten I don't know an unprecedent amount of money from her. Please ryan just be quiet. You could do this. Mom's already blocked her mom's already blocked. Refine we're gonna be okay. She's such a hero though she so his mother wants space from her telling fair and i mean they were like. Bff's when they were they were they or is this how she pushes herself on. People enforces say. I love you back to her. She's like say you love me or i'm not going to send the money. I love you. Stephanie she sends a scripted. she's like when i send you money. This is how you this is. This is what you say. Because i clearly wasn't clear before. She's very old in the voice. She needs to get a voice injection. Maybe at the medicine they can do that. So she stricken heavy. I think it's a lot of her problem. She is drinking very heavy and they still have not had relations since she's been there i think she's been there for four to five hours the way i couldn't tell how long she had been there but she's checking in with her psychic so don't worry about it god they go to dinner and her. His mask is a picture of her. A it's another rebecca bad. I wonder where he got that from. Or do you want one. I think that do you think do you think he makes them for himself or you think that she sends that now that was in her luggage and his mom's why do i have stephanie mass. Everyone in that town does. He keeps sending stephanie mass. I asked her for right money. She sent me seven thousand mass when her picture on it. She's like do you know much that's worth she's like. How many mass did i send you. Pay your bills while you eat the masks. She's been checking with her psychic. Thank god and he says that he doesn't believe in psychics. He thinks like that kind of stuff is like the devil. And i understand that that is a religious belief. I think christians are not supposed to believe in psychics. Yada yada yada. And he's like listen. Do you think that maybe you tell maria so much about me. That she uses that to maybe influence her readings and she's like i don't give maria any information. She tells her literally minute by minute. There is my best friend and i sent her transcripts of every conversation that we have so. She's like what if you want kids or something. Maria says you're going to look for a young girl that have kids with he's like i don't want kids. I don't want kids right now. And she's like wait a minute you just said right now and i think that what he means. I don't want kids until after you die. It's i saved enough money from you. And then i can have no. But i think that he could just wait until she ages out and then he could still have kids. It's fair so Okay so this is what i think about stuff any. I've been really trying to analyze. How i feel about stephanie. 'cause i don't hate her but then like i don't like her and what i have realized is that i feel like she is like if you order darcy for wish dot com. You would get stephanie. Stephanie is like a poor man's dorsey and darcy's already a poor man's darcy. I feel like that's like more credit than she deserved. I mean they're crazy in different ways. Right yeah i don't know there aren't very many redeeming things about her deafening well. Also we don't know we don't really know a lot about her besides her trying to kill her cat very slowly so nearer cat lady self admitted right. What do you think about her feeding the cat. Some play low fat key lime yogurt. It's insanity it's insanity. And i mean that doesn't to my knowledge occur in the wild right no. I don't think cats are trying to hunt down. Yo play yo fat yogurt in the wild. You don't think that there is a little bit like like tigers tiger's felines you don't think that there's tigers that are just looking for some key lime of it he's like. Oh my god two percent only it's gonna watch my weight over here so now four hours later rate everything seems fine four hours later we get this like almost like self taped footage s. He's leaving she gelling that he's lying and he said that he has a cab waiting and then she goes f off and die but she also of course says to throw in there in the heat of this argument. He says he has a cab. She says with what money is that really the milan important thing right now. It's probably a one dollar cab because he works at that resort. He's probably calling a golf cart to take him back to his room. Taras him up. Arizona drives uber so that and she's already paid him. I think that stephanie needs a ton of help. And right now she's in belize. And i don't know if maria is the best person for her to be getting support from. I think that she should be talking to a licensed professional counselor. Like the ones that you can get when you use better help online counseling. I used better hop online counseling. I absolutely love it. If i was in belize and having anxiety because my boyfriend that was thirty eight years younger than me was giving me grief or if his mom blocked me like family issues. I would be talking to my therapist from better online. Counseling the services available for clients worldwide. And you can talk about your depression stress. Anxiety relationships trauma anger any kind of complex literally. Anything you share is confidential. It's convenient it's professional it's affordable and so many people have been using better help that they are recruiting additional counselors in all fifty states. I want you to start living a happier life today. And as a listener you'll get ten percent off your first month by visiting better help dot com slash fiance join over one million people taking charge of their mental health again. That's better help. H. e. l. p. dot com slash fiance speaking of mental illness. Let's talk about andrew and amirah at one. Sentence only was not a quote. I just have no. I hate them while he's going back home to california he's sue percents to go home alone to quote a world of confusion what a world and after his two week vacation in mexico. That's where you're not going back to a world's confusion you're going back to your mom's daycare you're gonna you're gonna do some cost plate your mom's daycare. I don't even think you worked there. I think you just go there so. He's looking at a mirrors deceit on the airplane that she still paid for. I'm sure do you think she paid her part of that trip. Yeah i sure do so now. His mom picks him up and he said that he misses amirah everyday. He's like. I missed her swimming with the dolphins. I missed her during a buffet breakfast. I missed her. When i was doing the walking tours. I missed atv tours. I miss is having talks tacos on the beach. I really miss her that much during the massage because the girl really did keep me a lot of company but i did miss her like in other ways. I didn't miss her when i was sleeping. Either because i slip diagonally on the bed. And i was happy for that but i do miss her all the time. So his mom's like oh has she talked about the detention center that she was in and he's like not really just because i was so busy like i was eating crepes. And then she like You know ooh so said. I was in jail and then i was like a mirror. I can't really hear you. you're breaking up. You didn't have like the best service you know. And then you know having yeah like. I'm having a margarita. Please tell me the story while. I'm drinking a margarita in the sign league. I don't want to hydrate from my tears like she didn't tell me also i didn't ask also. Yeah it was like. It's better that you should talk to a counselor about that. So this is what tossing around the idea of. Going to serbia. What tossing. who's who's you're tossing into her. You just keep tossing. It's her and she keeps not catching it. Because but it's so easy. So easy to go through serbia. You just listen. He wants her to do whatever makes her feel safe securing comfortable. So you know it's like if you have to swim from france to the us then it's like whatever makes you happy. Yeah like i just go to. A different countries speaks a different language. And then you know. Hang out there for fourteen days by yourself right here. I am seven to ten percents. Sure that she won't go back to his attention center. So i don't know. Serbia seems like a really good established. Country what what. i think. She's going to be fine. Like i don't know why she wouldn't want to. I wanna live in serbia right now. I was thinking maybe even she could go through. Maybe the middle east and just stay there for a little while. Maybe through each gel like maybe jordan or You know what i was saying. Serbia meant syria. I was saying maybe she should go to syria for a little while. There is a lot of. there's a little bit of unrest. But like in all the confusion she probably just slip right into the us so maybe she should do that. His chihuahua greets him. It's so cute though. That's my only part that i liked. I know i really did like it. But i was also hoping that someone was watching it do the same thing the show our just like holding down the fort starving so now we look at the giant tiger on the bed and he has a gift basket for her for her winning getting to america which she did not win. She didn't win the prize iphone. A five hundred dollar zab card. Because we can't trust her with more than that we could never just give her access to our money. She gets five hundred dollars and five hundred dollars only and then the bear its name is garrett but they call gear and he puts it in the closet so he's pretending that he has all these stuffed animals for her to come over. He's like yeah. These were kids that well. That's not true but okay sure now if we're really being fair about speaking about mental illness. Let's talk about ziauddin rebecca. Oh boy i don't think there's a ton wrong would say said i. You know what since. He's been in america. no. I don't hate him at all. No i'm like. Yeah he seems pretty nice so he's face timing is niece and nephew and rebecca's like excuse me ziad no more talking to anyone. That's not me a bathroom and see your surprise. And she hands him some fake tattoos and then she says this is quote. You're ready. they're not real won't hurt. Don't worry they're not. I'm not going to needle them on him. That's how tattoos word have you ever gotten tattoos. Show yes did you know when you when you got these tattoos shoes right so you have. You have two full sleeves or just just one. Okay you have fall asleep did you. Was that with water. You put that on. Yeah in my bathroom and then it just stayed on right forever. And you're like oh my god. I didn't know the real right. Well she She also mommy. Mommy has tattoos so she wants baby to have time to look. Mommy has them but dc how. She shows her tattoos day but by making a muscle. What does that mean well because big strong mommy has such a big strong baby's going to have tattoos and then she also got babies some plato but he can't play on the bed because he has to play on the floor on the carpet carpet. Concrete garage looks get real. They just hose it down after he plays so she's like do you want maybe to wear them to meet my family. And he's like no no and she goes all you just want to just just for me. He's like yeah. Sure listen you said. I had a surprise. I thought maybe it was going to be a coach. He's like you gave me a fake tattoo. Also could you possibly set him up for failure a little bit more. You want to stick a sleeve fake tattoos on your boyfriend before going to hang out with your daughter. Know they're going to the rushed right. And this is sad. Goes so hungry. And then rebecca goes. I can't even say it. She goes this place so beautiful food. Okay so here's what's happening ziad. His english is pretty good. Rebecca's english is getting worse and ziad's is getting better. I thought that this was Even though we may have suspected in the past but this proves why he speaks that way yes so much beautiful because she did it he probably speaks fluent beautiful english and he's talking that way so he could communicate with her because that's how he thinks she talks. That's she's like you think just for me. He's like so beautiful so hungry. We have mac on all right so now she says like oh. You're going to be eating my family. I thought it was gonna be like. I dunno a family. No offense but it was her daughter and her boyfriend who they've already met and she's like oh they're going to have a bunch out because of course they're going to have to other people come out because they're looking to to pair him with people his age. So do you have any young people. He can hang out with sue now. They're all looking him when they opened the scene. Everyone's just looking at him like it's islands. everyone just has a straight face but there has age If we're really being honest. They're his age. So now hannah a friend of their. She's trying to make conversation and they were asking him. Like what is the biggest difference between here and there and she said if you kiss your boyfriend public to jail for six months and i just realized how many men i would like to travel to tunisia. Do you have any ex-boyfriends that you wish you were in tunisia with right now shannon very a so so many so beauty so so mosh rebecca's going to murder hannah. Yeah let's gonna. She's gonna hurt her in the face. Hannah is literally the only person that tree ten like a human being. She's on talking to him. Yeah she's that she's not asking him ridiculous questions. That having a legitimate conversation he even makes a joke when she person. Yeah he was. He's killing it and rebecca is just doing. Oh my god she but she's not even like a confident mad. She's like this uncomfortable. Kid like oh like sulking. And it's very like i had such second hand embarrassment. So now her son. Now i gotta tell you. I think i was totally off about her son in law. I thought that he was very aggressive about ziad before he got here. And now i'm seeing like. Oh they treat her like a kid. 'cause she acts like a kid and he's actually just trying to be protective of her. I agree so he asked if They go hunting there and he said it's almost turkey seizing and maybe they can go turkey. Hunting together okay. I think that's adorable. I mean not that. I like turkey hunting. But they're just trying that's that's the way they bond. What are we going to do about that. Now she's gonna kill hannah and there's a band actually called. Kill hannah really. Yeah there is. there's a band. They used to hang out with them all the time when i was younger and i think that rebecca might have been the lead singer of so they as they had. What do you do. Usually when rebecca is at work. And he's like you know. I watch a movie. You know play. Xbox he's been there for like four days and that's all. He has is an xbox and xbox a mattress so hannah is like she also rebecca things that while she's at work ziad is going to go to the storage space by himself. He can't drive and he's gonna move all the furniture by himself on his back by foot by. I hope the search space he's like. I cannot fits couch shopping carts so hannah's like actually my family has a lot of trucks. A lot of flack beds first of all. Is your family in the trucking business or did you guys just have a lot of cars. I couldn't tell this was obviously so staged by the produce producers so. She's like rebecca confronts him in front of the whole table. And as i do you hear what she's saying. She's saying that she'll help you move are you gonna. You're gonna let a girl. A woman move your. I don't think she was asking to help him move the furniture in no. I can't do you need to borrow one of the cars car if you load it exactly and it doesn't it's just this whole scene blows my mind because also like i know that it's supposed to be while she's at work like an intimate busyness. You're in america. You don't let women in the house when i'm and he's like why i don't know what's happening. I really don't know what's happening. He's like. I speak better english the new rebecca and i still don't know what's happening now when she asks him i he's like yes so then she says it again he's like no i don't even know and rebecca's like this place so beautiful food so they all get up and leave without finishing their meals and like i don't know what i did. I think i did a bad thing. But i don't know what the bad thing was. She also thanked uses his culture however she wants to because when she's yelling at him. She's like You know what she's talking to the camera. She says i o in his culture. They don't have single women and men and then at the end she was like. Oh american women are different than how you're using your culture it just using it however she can she is a crazy person like for real and i gotta tell you i have so much more to say about her and i think we're probably going to talk about some of this on our stereo party. We have a trash talk after. Show every single wednesday at seven pm eastern standard time. The greatest thing about stereo is that you should listen live because you could interact with us but if you don't you can listen. Afterwards the link is going to be right in the show notes. But if you don't see that it's stereo dot com slash trixie touzani. So what you're going to do. Is you download the app. You're going to follow me and you're going to see all of our trash talk after shows for every wednesday at seven pm and you're going to be able to interact with us all the way. It is so much fun. We've been really just having a blast. We really have. We have brand new content going live on the stereo up every wednesday at seven pm and remember you will be able to talk with us directly on stereo because you ever realize like when you wrap up a podcast shannon. You have a podcast. When you wrap up you forget to something super important all the time. Yes so this is what our after show is going to be like. Our listeners can get the full story here everything we missed it also just things for us to talk about an ask us specific questions. It's going to be so amazing shannon. Where could everyone find you. I know that you talked about your podcasts. A little bit. Can you talk about where they could find your show your social media and everything else you have going on sure So you can follow me on instagram. Shannon lee six nine eight to you can listen to my podcast. A thing is dang wherever you listen to podcasts. On itunes youtube spotify or gas digital network dot com. And you can listen to it there. That's about it awesome. You guys could follow this show. At ninety day. Podcast on instagram and twitter. You could follow him. Your host at trixie to zd on instagram twitter end stereo and as always we have merged for sale. Join our patriot. If you want more bonus content. We're going to be covering bears at all. Oh my god that's a patriot. Dot com slash. Talk podcast you can also follow my ex co host. No well at no. 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"Tracy no l. u. Elo yon say trash draw. Hello and welcome to ninety day. Fiance trash talk this episode one hundred eight. I'm your host comedian. Tracy cornell joined by my lovely guest co host shannon lee chasing hi shannon. I'm so excited for you to be here today because we actually got rid of noel. Finally our plan has worked. We got rid of noel. I suggested that she go on vacation. And then i just didn't allow her to come back. She fell for it. Yes she i mean. Who's the idiot i was like. Hey no while. Why don't you go on vacation for valentine's day and she was like where should i go and i was like. I don't know maybe the woods and that's it so no all is now in the wood and here we are and shannon is my new co hosts for the rest of my life so i'll come shannon or the rest of today at least at i'll take it okay. Whatever i mean listen is what it is. I'm so happy that you're here. I if you guys don't know who shannon is you should shannon's been on the show before. She's a very good friend of the show and shannon has another podcasts as well shannon tell us about your other podcast. Sure it's called. The thing is ding. We talk about bad dates fighting and ghosts and we have comedians reality. Tv stars musicians stars. Come on and talk about their experiences with the paranormal with mandates or bad sex and i'm getting into street fights. Oh okay. have you ever had someone. That's gotten into a relationship with a ghost and then fought them no on that. That's going to be when i stopped the show when that story comes on that i'm done. Thank you're searching for. Yeah but i have had two stories like run into each other but not never all three. Oh also who. Who's been like a few your favorite guests on the show besides me in noel. Of course may god rest her soul. I've had the best ghost stories are like my favorite episodes. So i'm zach amigo. Hosaka migos manekshaw goes hilarious. Oh my god. His story was like it should be made into a movie. It was terrifying zack. Has an actual podcast about horror movies. And i'm wondering if he channel that i think he's like i think this was a dream. It might have been a movie. I'm not sure if this was real and also comedian. Mike cannon hosa virus by podcast. His story will gave me goosebumps and almost made me cry. It was like djing go straight. Yep there's there's the great ones there's a lot of fun. Oh my god so guys make sure you check out china's podcast. Everything will be in the show notes so make sure you go down there. We're here to talk about season. Eight episode ten of ninety day. Fiance's before we get into that. I just want to introduce everyone that hasn't been already introduced to this app. Stereo that we have been using to go live every single wednesday night. We have a show on stereo called the trash talk after show. And it's no ellen. I every single wednesday night at seven pm eastern standard time. And it's amazing because what it is is like everything that we forget to say on the podcast or and we also interact with the listeners on this show and it's amazing so make sure you go to stereo dot com slash trixie to zini again. It's going to be in the show notes. So guys click the link. Make sure you sign up for stereo. You can listen. Live and ask questions or you can listen afterwards because all the recordings are there in the stereo out. That seems like so much fun. Because i know when i listened to this show i often speak out loud in to you and no wealth so i feel like he gives listeners. A chance to do that for real. That's exactly what it is you can say. How many times like. I do it all the time on podcast. I'm like no wait or like they're saying this is my biggest thing when people are saying things and it's wrong and they're or they can't think of the name of something and i'm like hello. Can you hear me now. we can hear you. And that's that's what. Sarah is all about so we're going to do that so now. Let's go into this episode season. Eight episode ten of ninety fiancee. We're going to start off with just the most beautiful well-matched romantic couple mike. And natalie. this is real love guys. Wow so she has learned the word of the day now. I don't know if she had word of the day toilet paper as what i thought yet or was teaching her the word of the day. Is she picking a word that she wants to know. How do we pick the word of the day. I was thinking that maybe she came across this word on television or something and kept throwing it at him show now. This is his way of being like. Why don't you tell everyone. What your word of the day because you keep saying over and over again you think. It's just some sarcasm. His yes so. The word of the day for her is controversial right. Isn't that what it is. yeah. I can't really read my own handwriting type. I type out. Should i really should. But i gotta tell you i think that the pain and the agony of writing longhand notes is really the punishment for me to from picking this career fair. Yeah so they go out to eat and heat is talking to her with an accent. Am i wrong on this. I didn't pick up on on that with them. This is a big thing on this show. It's i mean listen. It's a big thing in life. We've talked about this. So many times people speak to people with an accent With their own version of an accent yell they speak very slowly and they speak with sometimes. It's not even the same kind of acts. Like i don't even think this was kind of russian accent now. I missed it. I do have this in my notes for another couple right. Yeah yeah. I missed it for them. It happens a lot. And i gotta tell you. There's something that i've been thinking about a lot on. This is that. I am just like intrigued by accents. I really am dying. I just feel like accents are so cool. Yeah the mailing me. How i feel like they all just the fact of have like we have accents but we don't even know it. Yeah i mean. I get made fun of for my accent. Pretty often constantly. People think that i am like from. I was born in in the sewer in brooklyn and i feel like our accents. Aren't that strong. Compared to other new yorkers yeah not at all but it's just. It's so. I don't know like i think that obviously people mock people with accents and they use an accent to mock people. But i'm more intrigued than like. How did you come to pronounce that word like that like what happens. What is so different. I don't know. I need to take a class about this. This this is my new obsession. So there's forty five days left and she doesn't have address and he's like oh i think that's fine. It's it'll be no wedding right so don't even get address because we're just going. I'm gonna kick you out eventually so you know whatever feels it's felt like with this couple this whole season that he decided he doesn't want to do the show anymore. And hold the producers that in the producer like please just pretend and then he and natalie had a conversation he is like all right. We're going to do a show one more season and we're just gonna pretend that she says okay that's fine. He's forgets yet. No i think she forgets because he's just like let's just hang out and drink and have a good time and she is like what about the weather right and he's like wink wink. Natalie i told you just getting the cash right exactly. And she's like mike. I'm not authorized to be paid by the show and he's like what i can't hear you. Your accent is is very strong right now. And i don't understand what you're saying. So why don't you shut up and just do the show with me. Is that what you think is happening exactly. So they have lots of work on and she wants to go to therapy and he goes no. Oh okay cool. Simple answer he kinda like poop. Who's it he does. I think his answer is like it's only a little bit of like the macho attitude of not wanting to show feelings been getting deep into emotions but it's mostly because he just doesn't care he just wants forty five days to finish and for her to go home. I know and he's like well. I don't want to spend a bunch of money on okay. Saving a lot of money on heat. She's like Mike byrne styrofoam the other day in the fireplace. And i got some kind of terrible poisoning while you're at work and actually blacked out for three to four hours. Could we spend a little bit of money on therapy. And he's like no. That's a waste of money just to keep those styrofoam it's very controversial. Because she's like my lungs. When i breathe out flames come out. He's like yeah. That's america so so he just he keeps talking in circles. He's not making any kind of sense. So it's forty four days to the wedding and they're cooking together very angry. They are not happy about the situation. She is cutting a potato. He doesn't want her to cut the potato. They had already cut a potato potato. I feel like they should never eat together. This is what rights happened. They shouldn't eat in the same room. Bay shouldn't but at the same time she makes shore that he allowed to meet so they have to shift to compromise. Somehow i would like to speak on behalf of all vegans for a moment or oh my god. That's range shannon. you're a vegan. Please give us a little bit of insight. Do you agree with natalie or non. I do not. I feel like i often don't even like to admit that. I'm a vegan because vegans vegetarian. I don't know what she has Like natalie give us a bad name for She's constantly shaming him. She's every time he goes put something in his mouth. She's like don't eat that. That's the worst way to make somebody do. What you want to do is constantly shamed them for what they're they're doing right he's like don't drink. Don't eat meat. And it makes them angry to where he does it just to spite her right but also Why are you a vegan shannon like what is. What's the behind your your choice. So i originally gave it a shot. Because i wanted to lose weight and be healthier and I had never done it before. I was on i was in the mindset of meat is good and i don't feel like it's a good thing to give it up and then i was reading a bunch of books and i was like let me give it a shot and a a a few weeks in started to feel better. I started to lose it a little bit of way. Didn't i miss cheese. I'm going to be honest. But i didn't. I don't miss meat very much. And now it's been a little about almost a year and a half. Wow that i've been. And i mean i didn't do it for animal rights purposes attempt to feel better exactly. Yeah and i don't think everybody should be. I feel like do whatever the hell you wanna do. But it just it works for me. Look at that like just just worrying about yourself. is that what. You're doing that so crazy now. I cannot tell what her reasoning it so we do see that she does eat fish. So i'm assuming that she some kind of pest guitar. Ian which is like i said your choice and like you said your choice also. It is odd that the one animal. She chooses to eat fish yet. She's so protective of them with the sound of the fireworks right. So here's the thing you can't scare them but you can kill them exactly yes. Sneak up behind them and kill them. Just make sure they're sleeping. Yeah before you murder them. You don't want to spook them up. Is everyone knows that everyone knows. You don't scare a fish. that's a ancient proverb. Exactly what happens. It's like seven years bad luck when you take a mirror. Ten years in the would if you scare a fish with the firework that's the thing so the thing is like i don't know is she's doing this to maybe just control them but also to fasching him. Yes there's a ton of fat shaming going on. Yeah she definitely i mean. I don't want to jump ahead. But i usually try not to watch the coming attractions but yeah i'm all. She has mentioned it before too where she calls him. Low class like. She thinks that he is winning the lottery by having by being graced by her presence and that she is not allowed to treat him however she wants that attitude so now she says something worse so she's cutting the extra potato and she says this is a quote. Thank god noel is no longer co host on the show ever again because this is the quote. I get chills. Just thinking about how she would react to this. She says i hate butter so i hope she's not even listening right now because if she's listening she's not going to make it through. He's like you know. I want you to be fun. I want you to chill out. And then he goes to the fridge to get a beer and this is his quote. Oh no there's only one left. I feel like she doesn't like the drinking. Which is it's fine but also like you got him like that uh-huh you really can't change people yet. Also my favorite quote of her in this scene is her saying. I'm pretty fun. When i wanna be fun. So basically she just doesn't ever want to be the mine never ever wants to. But i do think that he knows that she hates the drinking so he goes hard on it exactly. Yeah yeah make the announcement. He has to smack his lips when he drinks. He has to go after every sip. It's so much sure it is a that is something that he doesn't always me like when they went into that little shop and he wanted to buy the decanters or whatever yeah he but it's also like he's being she is shoving his face so much as his only way of kind of pushing back. I think i know but like maybe then. Just don't be with her or have an actual conversation with her and be like. Hey natalie. here's the deal. I'm going to drink and if you keep making comments you can go in the pond with the fish. And i'm gonna play. I'm going to start shooting off tons of fireworks. I'm gonna play the scaring game. He says no again about that. She's like hey just checking in to see where you are about the therapy. And he's like. Oh no no. That's what we're gonna do. You're gonna know they whenever she reminded us like. I dunno i have megaphones. Esto certain sounds trigger me right when she says michael in constantly to get his attention but he's the other room. I have the same visceral reaction. To the sound of somebody chewing. He's just in the next name in the next room. There's nobody else in the house the other room known. I don't think there is another room. I think that the closet smells bad because that's where they cook cabbage so like i don't think i don't see another room per se. I see different angles of the same room. That's fair half partitions. But yet it's kind of looking open concept modular home. It's really just a beautiful thing. So he says no again about the therapy but then he goes to jane for his haircut and he sits down on the chair and he looks right in the face and goes do my hair like my mom. I want bangs like trash and she was like michael finally. Finally you're coming to and understanding. So they talk about natalie a little bit and she says this is a quote. What are you guys disagreeing on. And then he looks her right in the east and goes mostly buttering aliens. And i couldn't believe like most people you know butter aliens also her engagement ring and she's like oh cool when i go on a date just getting if i'm getting if you are. Do you think that she is legitimately. Because she does. Get a little flirty. Do you think it's legitimate or do you think this is a production planted. No i think it's legitimate. I think that's why they chose her because she's probably like beyond tv with my tricia son miche with the bangs. Oh my god. Maybe he'll let me do the bangs on him. There are much better couple. They will love eating and drinking together. This is so true though. He needs to find butter lover. Likes the would but now they talk about like her not having a ring. Yeah so the thing is is that she was i. Listen i don't like natalie but i also in this episode kind of almost saw her side of things for a little bit and i was like you know. I guess i've been in relationships before where you can paint me as the villain when you don't really know what goes on. Besides that. so yes. She gave him the ring back but like what really happened. He was making her feel so bad that she didn't know what else to do to kind of get his attention. Yeah maybe refresh my memory. But from what i remember of that whole thing was when they were in russia the ukraine that it's not see. Here's the thing it's not not a different place. Okay like it kinda used to be part of got it. Yeah natalie's home very natalie in natalie or natasha's home question that they. They had the interview where she refused to say that she loved michael. Okay so that was on the towel okay. So that wasn't the catalyst to their whole fight. no i don't think it was afterwards or maybe she said it twice. She might said it twice. Because i remember she did say on the tele but she might have said it in the confessional as well okay. Yeah because i have a hard time remembering like what. Their big problem was when he left. The big album was that she wanted a baby. Okay right now and he was like yeah. You don't even live like we're not even approved for the and she's like it's fine. Just put a baby me right now. I will cook it here. I will cook it here and then i will burn it in the closet. And he's like you haven't seen my my my set up yet so i think maybe you should. You should put the brakes on the baby and come over. I and see if you like it here right. I remember that. Was i think a lot of it so she so she's gene is cutting hair and she's talking while she's buzzing his hair but the greatest thing about this audio is that you can't hear her she's just buzzing took the television. The buzzer very loud. So i don't know if maybe they should have recorded. we're podcasters. Maybe they should have recorded the buzzers track separately. I've been lowered it just to give the buzzing a fact or made her pretend to buzz and then put a little buzzing sound effect in at a very low volume. You should write a letter okay. I'm gonna see what i could do. so now. He winds up going to couples therapy with her and they need doug and mike is like listen. I'm expecting a call from one thousand nine hundred seven. So i'm gonna keep my blue tooth year piece in because i also am a taxi driver on the side. I need to make sure that. I have this bluetooth in my ear during this entire therapy session. I feel like this was an easy way for him to instead of like just constantly having has is rolling right through the whole session. He's able to just signify how much he does not give a crap with think that he was listening to ninety day. Fiance's ashok maybe. Hi mike mike. If you're in couples therapy right now within the natalia slash natasha we we don't we used to be on your side not so much anymore but we do. I mean i say okay to butter. A shannon is like earth balance so he has this thing this thing in his ear that i cannot believe and doug is like guys. What do you think that the biggest problem is and natalia. I like to call him to tell you now by the way tall is like it's very hard to communicate with him because he's always on the phone with someone with a bluetooth is year and i was like. Do you think that maybe the bluetooth is part of the problem. He's like what blue what bluetooth. This is part of my ear now. I think that they could not have picked a worse therapist for to sit with them. I think he was terrible in my personal. Tell me why okay. What stuck out to me. I. this is just a stupid thing but it annoyed me. I felt i'm on mike side. I felt his annoyance the entire session. But when when they walk in the therapist says this is the spot. Pick your favorite seat. There's just a couch there. There's just a couch and how do you know maybe there's something that you can see. Maybe there was a tiny hammock hanging from the ceiling. Maybe there was a swing. Maybe there was some pillows on the floor that they can lay down. You know like when you were in When in school guidance counselor's office and they're like if you want to sit on the floor there and just lay down. And i'd always be like yeah. Of course. I want to just lay down. Can you also not talk to me. great. I'm sorry i didn't realize you didn't receive a whole room. You just saw the one couch area. I feel like a lot of therapists do that though. Pick your favorite seattle. they do. I'm telling you like every therapist office. That i've been inside of because now everything's virtual It's so crazy because they do say like sit wherever you're comfortable. And they usually have two options. One of them is more of a city thing and one of them were as a lay down kind of option. I always pick the city but also sometimes like i've been to their office where they go hard lake chair and then they have a couch. I'm not gonna lay on anything. But i will sit on the couch before. I'm going to sit on the chair. That's fair. yeah so we don't know. I think that you need to hold your judgment on that. What else was it about. Doug so i feel like mike could be one over But whenever mike now. I feel weird calling him mike. I feel like i need the same michael. But whenever the 'sorry michael anti i'm going to change my notes for natasha. It's whatever you feel comfortable calling her whenever he. I feel like the key things that he said. The therapist just glossed over For example when he said. I don't think we're in love with each other anymore the therapists and this is obviously. This could be heavy editing yet editing. Because i don't okay so she did say that she wants to express to him that it was hard for her to leave her country. And this is a quote. Now i live in the would says my favorite so he ignores her emotions right and he claims that he tried to make her feel comfortable. Now listen again. Never on her side before. But now i kind of am because okay shannon you have your boyfriend coming from scotland. He's have a great so he's coming to your house and he's gonna come live with you. Are you doing anything to pay for his arrival. Yes yes i do agree with you here especially during. I would have in the fridge. Things that he likes to eat. Like our cater. The place as much as i could his preferences i understand what spot to sit in. He wouldn't be would put the hammock up. You put a little bean bag chair on the floor. I understand see. I would even see. I don't know if this is a woman thing though like i might say like. Oh you like lasagna. And i would have made a lasagna. Kept it in the fridge for some grab and go meals because remember. He's going to be in the house and you're going to be off at work right so now instead of him having to cook every meal just like the first few days maybe he could just unwind. Heat up some liaison. You know. that's fair. Yeah and i do think this may be a woman thing. Because i don't think there has been a single man on this show. That has ever done anything you. And what was his name. Eric in something is the guy can't remember. Now i know all lead lead. Yes yes yes yes. We'll blow up the couch. That was that was effort. You right i'm sorry. And he also made the boxspring so they can lay down on it so he did do a lot of the. I don't know what it is. It's like why wouldn't you want these people to be happy like comfortable in your home. That is now going to be their home. And i do think that he did not really prepare now when he said that they aren't in love i think he was paying her back for what she did at the tell all and how what we were just talking about how she said in the confessional that they are not in love anymore or that. She doesn't love him. I don't agree. I feel like. I feel like after him being angry about that. Whole situation that that it's now actually worn off for him because even when she was first coming back here right and like her visa was approved. He was kind of like all right. I mean i guess. I guess we have to do it now. Be sure where proves try. But i don't think that those feelings have ever actually his heart wasn't in it. Yeah and i think this is him actually finally admitting that and from what at least is shown to us by the editing of this. It appears that the the therapists never asked him to clarify. Never made sure. Natalie hurt well. He definitely didn't clarify. Because i will tell you this but again. I think this is the editing he was like. What do you want to hear from her. And then i didn't understand anything that he said. I played it back ten times. And i was like. I think this is bad editing. Because i'm not sure where this conversation is fitting in. It's true also One other thing that natalie said when she said that He wasn't carrying about her emotions are trying to understand how she feels but there were times that we saw at least where he said. Tell me what your when. She had the tantrum outside in the woods and she walked away and he said. Tell me what you're feeling like. Use your words. Like i don't i don't know so. He has attempted to talk to her and ask her what feeling but she is just shuts down right. She was like. I'm gonna kiss this tree on the so. Just leave me alone now. He goes outside from the therapist office and the producer astor. Ideally asked them. Ideally what would he like and he says in an ideal world. He wants to get married and have kids. But maybe not with natalie. I think they meant in an ideal world. What would happen with natalie. I don't know. I don't know they did leave. It pretty open ended right. But yeah i i think that's just more to. He's he's checked out but there was a little bit of emotion that came over him at the end of this was maj way he was annoyed. He's like are you guys gonna pay me or no. I take this phone call already. He's like i have had someone on hold for forty five minutes so please let me get back to my phone call. Thank you so much. Now we talked about how natalie says again quote. I hate butter and that is just the wrong way of thinking because there really aren't any quote unquote bad foods. 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Major douchebag ary yeah. I mean like a into this scene. At first i was thinking well i yar seems like she's not on point she only has one layer slayer of makeup on like probably tired and she starts off kind of a little crappy. I never know if. I can curse in the show or not absolutely correct. Okay so your mom listens. I don't wanna be offensive curse. I just don't okay. Ken okay so i don't care if she i don't care if Yes she hates you. That is what it is. It's not gonna buy paper towels from cosco. She's still going to them for me. You know what i'm saying. I got it. So he started typing. Yara didn't have great bedside manner while speaking to hove as father because she was. I think she was tired. I think she was angry. I think she doesn't feel good. And it's like these people are there to judge her. Yeah because he immediately like bit back like his bedside manner was even worse than hers. Was there to her. He hadn't met her before he was at work when she arrived. He makes it like. She's a package right when ups dropped her off. I was at work so we left her by the back door and that is how they treat her. They don't treat her like a human being ope. she is an import. They imported her his mom. Gwen is having fifty to sixty people at this quote unquote small party. So when is looking at her and lying to her fees. And while gwen is lying hove v is drinking. Of course he's drinking and she's like they're like how do you like new orleans. She's like oh. I don't like it at all. I get very scared to walk around the other. Okay what's his name monte. I think i called the mardi. His name is monty down he said. Oh yeah it's very dangerous for a woman that dresses like you. I've seen that The way that you dress. I've seen pictures of you. So he's basically implying that might be mistaken for a hooker. This makes me so angry. This first of all and she i mean. She backs herself up. Yes up well. But it's like when when i'm on vacation isn't often but i would never wear the outfits that i wear on vacation anywhere else. So what you're saying shannon. I'm just trying to understand that. So when you were a bikini at the beach when you're In puerto rico okay. You don't wear that on the subway in new york city doesn't that's just i'm just trying to figure this out. So you've saying you're saying that you have dressed in maybe like a sexy way right at an event that it's appropriate for and then not warranted at four. Am walking in a dark alleyway in naxi. It's so weird. Because i think that whatever you put on social media is just how you always are. Also i am on her. I don't love new orleans. I era. I've only been there one time. Maybe a younger people place okay. But it's also like. I don't know if she understood what she was coming into. Because i think that. Listen i i like new orleans. I don't wanna live there but a lot of people feel it about new york city. That's you know. And it's also you know different neighborhoods different areas. So she just that's not her thing and remember something jovi really embraces the culture of drinking they're short and the partying and they have mentioned strippers four hundred times in just this one scene so he is living when they say like people say. I don't like new york city a lot of times. What they mean is. I don't like midtown manhattan but when you really come down to it. No one really is spending their day to day life in midtown manhattan in times square standing under a billboard right. That's fair jovi is actually. He's like a permanent tourist in his own city. He's going to eminem store every day. That's the equivalent of going to the eminem store to do his grocery shopping. He's going to bourbon street every night. He's spending his evenings at strip clubs. Which again it's it's fine like i'm not shaming anyone but at the same time like i don't think that you know the lifestyle that he is telling you he's going to give her is going to happen if he still partaking. In that kind of behavior i agree. It's also i mean. I guess the overall thing though is he has no business getting in a serious relationship moving somebody here to this country from a different country when he he wants to be a party boy which is fine. Then yeah exactly you. We're not shaming shaming him but quote unquote. We're not shaming him. But at the same time it's like don't drag someone into that. It's not like she's a party girl you know i will say that looks are deceiving. When she got off that plane i was like. Oh this girl is really going to be a handful and then you know she was like demanding things in the apartment and it's like when you really think about it. It's like oh she wanted a nice rug. That's it one. She wanted her prague. She really wanted remarkably white rug. I would love one she was. She liked kerr. I really do like her now. The other thing is that his family is really trying to push the narrative that almost like she's a mail order bride from the ukraine. Right and i love a obviously could have been done in a better way but when they said her everybody who lives in new everybody to america every body from the ukraine wants to come to america every single by and she says she comes back she can never my dream. She's like look around. Look at this guy. This was my dream nightmare this swamp. Yeah that was major. So she's she's like okay fine. You want see that all ukrainians wanna come to america. She's like that's like saying all americans are stupid. Because that's what people in the ukraine say about american vern. I mean it was the perfect response much fat lazy and stupid. Just you just said that. She's like no. I know i mean. I think that we're proving her quite right with her current relationship so she would like to move to budapest eventually. And i like how she comes out first meeting with her father and she's like. Oh yeah you're going to like kind of bullying me. I'm going to tell you the things that are going to make your head spin also. They're they're accusing her. Of just wanting having this quote unquote american dream and just wanting me to america. She immediately says. I don't wanna live in this country and now they're switching over to. She wants to take our son away so like which you just wanna hate her for any reason. They're so afraid to lose him and his mom says this is a court. I don't want him moving to europe. They okay so here's the other thing right. They seem very uncultured and like the small town like this by you mentality and yet if his dad has the same job that he has his dad has been traveling the world for a very long time. so i don't know why they seem so oblivious to other cultures you know i though when when he is travelling he may be just traveling with his group of workers and not really experiencing those cultures may cause his mom was like europe. Pretty general also they he saying to To them that they have to decide soon where they wanna live because after they get married. It's gonna be too late. Why why after you get married you just have to stay in one place forever while they're saying that after they get married. It's not as easy to get to divorce her. She wants to move basically what they're saying. So now gwen is like listen. We need to make your comfortable in the us. Because she can't take my little baby boy away and he's drinking. I know that it's weird but Jovis drinking and yarra wants to nap because she is pregnant and no one knows and so him and his dad go to a crawfish boil with his friends from the bio. And they're on their way there. Obviously gwen is driving them because they are alcoholics. At least they're being responsible. They're very responsible. Gwen will be there uber. Driver for the day and drops them off and the dad in the car is like did we lock up everything in the house. Do you think it's safe to have left her by herself. It's you know. I am yes and i am on board with Jabbing like jokes are may be slightly offensive. I would say working guest digital network. I am on board with that kind of humor. Sure however if you are trying to convince your parents that you are with this woman for love and that she is with you for love. Maybe don't always jump in on the jokes about your future wife trying to scam you on rob your family right. Yeah just like maybe wait until they get a little bit more acquainted or wait until they're married and then you can tell your parents that she's a hooker. Exactly you just wait though. Just give it a second. So they don't all of his friends don't think the marriage will last like two months two weeks blah blah blah and. Then one of his friends says how many. How long do you have to be married for her to be able to stay here and he says three years and they're like all right. Well that's how long you're going to be married. They're also imply. I can't wait until she sees this footage on my god see honestly. I don't think she really cares. Like she didn't care because she doesn't care what sarah said either. Okay she's like these people. I mean nothing. I don't even care. But they do his friend frankie incline heap talking about how. He loves strip clubs. Yeah this is not just one time combo i mean. She is so hot though really is she's beautiful. She's got a banging body so it's like if you're going to. She's funny yes so if you're gonna get someone close to the appearance of a stripper you got it short right. It's like are you looking for a hotter girl. Not i mean. She's pretty hot agreed. Yeah yeah i. I do agree with that so now. She's getting ready for the party and she's in her dress and he's like. How much did that cost. And she's like oh a few thousand dollars she's just trying to shut him up and then as she's getting just he's sprinkling powder on his head. I don't. I was hoping i thought that i was in coming here to show. And i was gonna make fun of that and you're gonna make me feel stupid by. I was hoping same. I thought you were going to make me feel stupid. I do maybe it was like a volume izing powder. Have you ever used that. Like on your roots. Where a little texture. Yeah it's like a little powder that you could sprinkle and it gives you texture so you get a little volume. So i've used like like a dry like volume is dry shampoo right just kind of like a power power but in spray form so there is some sort of liquid component to it but he he didn't just sprinkle a little bit on like kept the whole bottle. Assault was in his scalp. I somebody both beam was like putting fish food tank. Exactly he didn't stop. It's not like he gave it a little sprinkle and then we removed onto the next product. Like there was a lot of powder in his head he has and then he says she says your hair looks like shit. He's like. I know i was like i wonder why. Because you're putting puts you just put old bay seasoning all over your head. He's like well. I just came from the crawfish boil. So was that not a good thing to put in my now. Okay she He didn't bring her any food. He brought her crawfish. she's pregnant. She feels nauseous right so she has morning sickness and you know. He brought her leftover crawfish from a crawfish boil. That happened hours before. Can i just throw in really quickly. When they referred to the crawfish as red mud bugs. Yes is the most disgusting thing i've ever heard. Imagine life no. Yeah that is what they're called so gross. It makes me want to eat them so much less than i already don't eat them but also he's like he's like what are you mad at me for. I put in absolutely the least amount of effort possible to bring you something. He's like after. Everybody and touch all the food i brought you cold crawfish that had been laying out for a long time and i know that you're pregnant and you don't like seafood but i made a made you a little doggy bag of my bugs. He like scraped it off the table hands for some of them are on the floor. But you just you just really boil them. Well you're not going to eat. Charlotte sign sanitize them. So she's like. I feel sick. I feel like i'm gonna throw up. And now i feel like i'm gonna throw a not even because i'm pregnant because i'm looking at. You bringing me crawfish. Thank you so much so she wants to tell his family that she's pregnant and he's like oh don't tell them because we're not even going to be able to see the doctor. Oh she says we're not going to be able to see the doctor for three months and he says but we can't tell them until we see the doctor she's like i mean i'm pregnant. I think he's hoping for the pregnancy to go away. Yes that he's like but remember what happened last time. We can cross our fingers right now. It's it's i do agree with you on that. I also understand that. People don't announce pregnancy for a while because of the risk of miscarriage and she does have a history of that so it's like maybe a little bit scary for him but i don't think that's where he's coming from absolutely not giving too much credit It's almost like hey you know if if you tell them you're pregnant again like me. They're going to think. Maybe i drink too much. So he's already hung over clash drunk the way before before they even leave for the party. And he's like aggravated. Here's like can we get to this party already. I think it's because his beer was getting low. Yeah for sure because when you stop drinking you get hung over. So i'm sorry. But the weiming the one he had in his hand literally like he's like i only have twelve car beers and it's a three minute drive. How are we going to get to the party. So she's annoyed at him and he doesn't know why she's mad at all. She's taking selfies of herself. And he's like you only care about yourself. She's like she's like you only care about your beer. And he's drinking in the car on the way now but he hasn't been drinking he okay. She called hollick and he says and this is a quote now ready. He said i only had five beers. I'm not drinking. And i haven't been drinking just warming up baby so you know i'm just trying to so you've only had five beers. Also she says that's a lie. She said that you said that three years ago so he's ahead at least beers and then he says he admits that he's had at least five but also that he's not drinking and he's not drunk just because you are not drunk off eight beers you know what that means that means. You have a drinking problem. That is not a bragging rate. He's like look i. I drink the whole bottle of cuervo. Adam fine yet. Maybe it'll tell people that used to actually data guy that when we would head out like go party or go to a bar or something he would fill a solo cup with a drink. Four the drive as he was driving. You know what that's called. An alcoholic called alcoa and it's called the cheap alcoholic so i don't know why things didn't work out with you guys. I'm so sorry. Shannon i don. That's sensitive also then. He adds that she's stupid. So that's the icing on the cake. It's really great so to rican hazel. Let's talk about them. It's april twenty twenty. She's never driven a car so he lets her drive the lawnmower for practice. This is joe great right. I don't know. I would be scared to even drive alone or not and you can do it. I'm gonna send you over to virginia beach and we're going to get you some more driving lessons. Maybe you could be the third who knows. Forty one days left and she's on the elliptical. They're quit working out as a family. Everyone's on lockdown and now. She scared because she heard from the grapevine that her son. Harry has a fever. So she's try. She's she's crying shannon she heard from harry step mom that he has a fever. That was a while ago rumor. Has it rumor that she heard she read in the paper. That harry might have a fever. So now she's crying and tariq feel super guilty and she said the last time that she called his step mom she didn't call she didn't answer so now i'm assuming days later. She calls her back so she calls again. And ruby picks up and this is now this is why. I don't think the kennedy fever she says to ruby. Does harry still have a headache. And she says no and that was it. That was it. It was like oh. My god cold cured. She also translates that into you. She says she's feeling he's feeling way. Better thank you for asking. She's just like no so now. Harry comes on. He seems better right or he seems probably the exactly how he will anymore. Which is fine and and he's talking to wreak in his language and to rico's use your english. I don't like to wreak i'm gonna tell there's so many reasons why i don't like to make if you guys listen to last week's podcast. We covered bears all recovered episodes one and two and we saw tariq wrap so. That's the number one reason. I don't like him. I skipped it. Because i didn't want it. Felt about him. Honestly don't watch it if you want to listen to the episode. That's fine but don't watch the at all it was. It was uncomfortable. It was upsetting and just not not because it was sad just because it was upsetting terrible now i feel like tariq things he's the knight in shining armor diesel from poverty. He i'll wait for you to the next part before i give you all like he's like oh i don't know she's gonna come here to my big american house and drive my big american lawnmower. I have two to three vehicles. i don't even know. She's seen a wheel before they all do this. Poll yeah. let's look carini poop water just liking your country like a trailer. Isn't that all you ever dreamed up. Look we put the dogs in cages. So much nicer than your house. Just roam free. Oh my god so now he also is okay. So harry is recovering from covid. Apparently from folded fake ovid. He's like you need to drink orange juice every day. He's like you need to overload your body with sugar as much sugar as you can. That's very good for you. And he's like we don't have money for orange juice so he says instead of sending twenty bucks over there so you can have orange juice forever. No no now. This kid's gotta do jumping jacks in the house. Because he can't play a side. Why did he. I am scared. He has custody of a child. Custody of a child with special needs terrifying. So now his daughter ari goes over. And she's gonna talk to harry on this video call and he points to harry and goes he's going to be your brother and she looks to tariq and she walks away and i gotta tell you that is the correct reaction for her three response. Yeah i'm like. Yeah i would too because it's just like why are you trying to force this. This is strange. So now hazel tells harry. It's going to a very very long time to get him here. And this is a quote because there is a corona fan in. Was this really the plan. We plan to take harry over. So what you're gonna do is you're going to have. Harry live his whole life basically with his father and stepmother basically his mom. Because that's right that's how it works. And then you're going to rip him away and he could basically never see them again right but i mean like says she already didn't have custody in one couldn't afford it here yes alike not only like changes surroundings. As far as the people he surrounded by but different country language right everything and also. It's just heartbreaking. That she says to him. It's gonna be like forever. She's like listen. Don't get your hopes up on this. There is one corona here and honestly if you had orange juice have been making mimosas but instead there is a corona at the current is going to be doing jumping. Jacks and so just doing your jumping jacks also tariq teaches them how to do a jumping jack. They don't have jumping jackson the phillipi. He's like anyone in the philippines. Have you ever moved your body now. Okay let me teach you this. American jumping jack secure. All this is a very good remedy if you have a fever if you fever and a headache what you need to do immediately as jumping jacks so shannon. Just keep that in mind if you feel good so just some jumping jacks art. We're gonna move on to stephanie and ryan. She's teaching them. How to hula-hoop now they're having a ton of fun her voice. It's very old. It's much older than she. Even is when i hear her voice if i if you close your eyes. When she's speaking i think eighty five to ninety five. I agree. I sounds very very old. My may i send here. Is i hate everything. Yes i do not like either of them no he. Also i feel bad for him. Because i feel like he has not done a ton of research on michigan because he says that he wants to explore michigan with her. Now no offense to michigan but he lives in belize understand about people from tropical places. While i understand that there's poverty. So that that i understand but exploring michigan is going to be more underwhelming than you know is probably equal amounts of pop. Yeah it's i mean. It's not the great bolt. She also lives a lavish lifestyle. So it's going. It's not going to be his experience in michigan. So his mom she's like is your mom. Happy that we're together and we're in love. And she goes. He goes yes. She's so happy that it's going to be a good experience for me and that you're going to help me get a job. She's like yeah but she happy that we're in love and he's like yeah. That's what i just said that you're going to get a job and that you have a lot of money whether have a job or not. You're gonna pay me so have so. We find out that his his mom has blocked her. I mean that's you have to be really bad if you are funneling money to somebody and annoy them so bad they block you. That's what i'm saying like cheese like even want your money. That's how annoying. You are so what happened. Was we find out. And we knew that stuff and he was insane but this is really the confirmation so she got in a fight with him and she basically threatened him that she would ask for the money back for but but not all the money just months money because his mom didn't thank her or thank her working out the way that she wanted to be. And he's like yeah. My mom's have to bend over backwards to you like if you choose to give money and you choose to help us out like you're choosing that from your heart rate also. It doesn't seem like they're asking her so if you do. Yeah so if you decide to do this. I mean it's very clear through to control him. Exactly yeah and Sorry am i would really like to take a time out to speak about. She wears three different outfits sources in the first scene. Where she's there hulu right. She's wearing a rash guard as if maybe they're going surfing short white shorts and sandals just doesn't work and i mean you're on vacation just like we spoke with your earlier when you're on vacation you wear cute things. Sure your boyfriend that you haven't seen in ten months. Why why is this your choice of out. I'm gonna tell you. There are definitely areas that maybe she does not wanna show okay. Oh i thought you meant that. It's not okay for her to show parts of her body in that area. In case you saw you know it's gross. Nope not at all. I think that remember something now. i'm not body shaming her whatsoever but you do have to understand that she is a very vain person and that's what she cares about. She owns a med spa again. Nothing wrong with that but she does Think that her appearance and her youth is the most important thing. Okay but so. I think that she's trying to avoid exposing certain of her body. Because i think like it's like this if you're fat and you wear something oversized and in a dark color. You think that no one thinks you're fat right. Stephanie things that if she dresses maybe like how. A toddler dresses. That no one's gonna know what age she is the diaper in along shirt. When she's wearing that onesie that snaps at her crotch she's wearing a body suit and A huggies it regardless of what your body type is you can dress cute without revealing. But she doesn't know that she doesn't know that she is she the way she dresses is very odd as well. I don't think that this is just who she is. There's there's always something that she's trying to hide or trying to. Accentuate the these weird parts of her body. I think that her shorts always way too big on her. Yes is too big in in that next. Each is she's literally Gave the benefit of the doubt. And i wrote down t shirt dress. That's not. it's not a t shirt dress. Don't just his t shirt yet. But i think that she also likes back because she feels like like when you're in like you know when you're a teenager and you wanna wear your boyfriend toady it bad. No she but she wants everyone to know that they're together and then this young couple that's very important to her is that they're a fun loving young couple so his mom just just blocked her and she said that she's trying to keep them fed and keep the lights on and now she doesn't send them any money now that his mom blocked her so she asked him. How many thousands of dollars do you think i've sent you. He's like i don't know. I want you to leave me alone but also i mean still semi money but also leave me alone. He really you can see him like clenching. His jaw as he speaks to her and like really restraints his respond on what she's like Tell me understand. I understand. He's harlot. She gives me money. She gives you money. She gives me money. Just sh- calm down. Ryan calmed down ryan. You've gotten I don't know an unprecedent amount of money from her. Please ryan just be quiet. You could do this. Mom's already blocked her mom's already blocked. Refine we're gonna be okay. She's such a hero though she so his mother went space from her telling fair and i mean they were like. Bff's when they were they were they or is this how she pushes herself on people and forces her to say i love you back to her. She's like say you love me or i'm not going to send the money. I love you. Stephanie she sends a scripted. she's like when i send you money. This is how you this is. This is what you say. Because i clearly wasn't clear before. She's very old in the voice. She needs to get a voice injection. Maybe at the medicine they can do that. So she stricken heavy. I think it's a lot of her problem. She is drinking very heavy and they still have not had relations since she's been there i think she's been there for four to five hours the way i couldn't tell how long she had been there but she's checking in with her psychic so don't worry about it god they go to dinner and her. His mask is a picture of her. A it's another rebecca bad. I wonder where he got that from. Or do you want one. I think that do you think do you think he makes them for himself or you think that she sends that now that was in her luggage and his mom's why do i have stephanie mass. Everyone in that town does. He keeps sending stephanie mass. I asked her for right money. She sent me seven thousand mass when her picture on it. She's like do you know much that's where she's like. How many mass did i send you. Pay your bills while you eat the masks. She's been checking with her psychic. Thank god and he says that he doesn't believe in psychics. He thinks like that kind of stuff is like the devil. And i understand that that is a religious belief. I think christians are not supposed to believe in psychics. Yada yada yada. And he's like listen. Do you think that maybe you tell maria so much about me. That she uses that to maybe influence her readings and she's like give maria any information. She tells her literally minute by minute. There like best friend and i sent her transcripts of every conversation that we have. So she's like what if you want kids or something. Maria says you're going to look for a young girl that have kids with he's like i don't want kids. I don't want kids right now. And she's like wait a minute you just said right now and i think that what he means. I don't want kids until after you die. It's i saved enough money from you. And then i can have no. But i think that he could just wait until she ages out and then he could still have kids. It's fair so Okay so this is what i think about stuff any. I've been really trying to analyze. How i feel about stephanie. 'cause i don't hate her but then like i don't like her and what i have realized is that i feel like she is like if you order darcy for wish dot com. You would get stephanie. Stephanie is like a poor man's dorsey and darcy's already a poor man's darcy. I feel like that's like more credit than she deserved. I mean they're crazy in different ways. Right yeah i don't know there aren't very many redeeming things about her deafening well. Also we don't know we don't really know a lot about her besides her trying to kill her cat very slowly. So shannon era cat lady self admitted right. What do you think about her feeding the cat. Some play low fat key lime yogurt. It's insanity it's insanity. And i mean that doesn't to my knowledge occur in the wild right no. I don't think cats are trying to hunt down. Yo play yo fat yogurt in the wild. You don't think that there is a little bit like like tigers tiger's felines you don't think that there's tigers that are just looking for some key lime of it he's like. Oh my god two percent only it's gonna watch my weight over here so now four hours later rate everything seems fine four hours later we get this like almost like self taped footage s. He's leaving she gelling that he's lying and he said that he has a cab waiting and then she goes f off and die but she also of course says to throw in there in the heat of this argument. He says he has a cab. She says with what money is that really the milan important thing right now. It's probably a one dollar cab because he works at that resort. He's probably calling a golf cart to take him back to his room. That's harris him up. Arizona drives uber so that and she's already paid him. I think that stephanie needs a ton of help. And right now she's in belize. And i don't know if maria is the best person for her to be getting support from. 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And as a listener you'll get ten percent off your first month by visiting better help dot com slash fiance join over one million people taking charge of their mental health again. That's better help. H. e. l. p. dot com slash fiance speaking of mental illness. Let's talk about andrew and amirah one-sentence hollywood not a quote. I just have no. I hate them while he's going back home to california he's sue percents to go home alone to quote a world of confusion a world and after his two week vacation in mexico. That's where you're not going back to a world's confusion you're going back to your mom's daycare you're going to. You're gonna do some cost plate. Your mom's daycare. I don't even think you worked there. I think you just go there so. He's looking at a mirrors deceit on the airplane that she still paid for. I'm sure do you think she paid her part of that trip. Yeah i sure do so now. His mom picks him up and he said that he misses amirah everyday. He's like. I missed her swimming with the dolphins. I missed her during a buffet breakfast. I missed her. When i was doing the walking tours. I missed atv tours. I miss is having talks tacos on the beach. I really miss her that much during the massage because the girl really did keep me a lot of company but i did miss her like in other ways. I didn't miss her when i was sleeping. Either because i slip diagonally on the bed. And i was happy for that but i do miss her all the time. So his mom's like oh has she talked about the detention center that she was in and he's like not really just because i was so busy like i was eating crepes. And then she like You know ooh so said. I was in jail and then i was like a mirror. I can't really hear you. you're breaking up. You didn't have like the best service you know. And then you know having yes like. I'm having a margarita. Please tell me the story while. I'm drinking a margarita in the sign league. I don't want to dehydrate from my tears. Like she didn't tell me also. I didn't ask also. Yeah it was like. It's better that you should talk to a counselor about that. So this is what tossing around the idea of. Going to serbia. What tossing. who's who's you're tossing into her. You just keep tossing. It's her and she keeps not catching it. Because but it's so easy. So easy to go through serbia. You just listen. He wants her to do whatever makes her feel safe securing comfortable. So you know it's like if you have to swim from france to the us then it's like whatever makes you happy. Yeah like i just go to. A different countries speaks a different language. And then you know. Hang out there for fourteen days by yourself right here. I am seven to ten percents. Sure that she won't go back to his attention center. So i don't know. Serbia seems like a really good established. Country what what. i think. She's going to be fine. Like i don't know why she wouldn't want to. I want to live in serbia right now. I was thinking maybe even she could go through. Maybe the middle east and just stay there for a little while maybe through e gel like maybe jordan or You know what i was saying. Serbia meant syria. I was saying maybe she should go to syria for a little while. There is a lot of. there's a little bit of unrest. But like in all the confusion she probably just slip right into the us so maybe she should do that. His greets him. That's so cute though. That's my only part that i liked. I know i really did like it. But i was also hoping that someone was watching it. I do the same thing. The show our just like holding down the fort starving so now we look at the giant tiger on the bed and he has a gift basket for her for her winning getting to america which she did not win. She didn't win the prize iphone. A five hundred dollar zab. Id card because we can't trust her with more than that. We could never just give her access to our money. She gets five hundred dollars and five hundred dollars only and then the bear its name is garrett but they call gear and he puts it in the closet so he's pretending that he has all these stuffed animals for her to come over. He's like yeah. These were our kids that well. That's not true but okay sure now if we're really being fair about speaking about mental illness. Let's talk about ziauddin rebecca. Oh boy i don't think there's a ton wrong say add i you know what since he's been in america no i don't hate him at all. No i'm like yeah. He seems pretty nice. So he's face timing is niece and nephew and rebecca's like excuse me ziad no more talking to anyone. That's not me. Come in the bathroom and see your surprise and she hands him some fake tattoos and then she says this is quote. You're ready. they're not real won't hurt. Don't worry they're not. I'm not going to needle them on. That's how tattoos word. Have you ever gotten a tattoo. Show yes did you know when you when you got these tattoos shoes right so you have. You have two full sleeves or just just one. Okay you have fall asleep did you. Was that with water. You put that on. Yeah in my bathroom and then it just stayed on right forever. And you're like oh my god. I didn't know the real right. Well she She also mommy. Mommy has tattoos. So she wants baby to have time to look. Mommy has them but dc how. She shows her tattoos day but by making a muscle. What does that mean. Well because big strong mommy has such a big strong baby's going to have tattoos. And then she also got babies some plato. But he can't play on the bed because he has to play on the floor on the carpet carpet. Concrete garage looks get real. They just hose it down after he plays so she's like do you want maybe to wear them to meet my family. And he's like no no and she goes all you just want to just just for me. He's like yeah. Sure listen you said. I had a surprise. I thought maybe it was going to be a coach. Gave me a fake tattoo. Also could you possibly set him up for failure a little bit more. You want to stick a sleeve fake tattoos on your boyfriend before going to hang out with your daughter. No they're going to the rushed right and this is sad goes so hungry and then rebecca goes. I can't even say it. She goes this place so beautiful food. Okay so here's what's happening ziad. His english is pretty good. Rebecca's english is getting worse and ziad's is getting better. I thought that this was We have suspected in the past but this proves why he speaks that way. Yes so much beautiful. Because she did it he probably speaks fluent beautiful english and he's talking that way so he could communicate with her because that's how he thinks she talks. That's she's like you think just for me. He's like so beautiful so hungry. We have mac on all right so now she says like oh. You're going to be eating my family. I thought it was gonna be like. I dunno a family. No offense but it was her daughter and her boyfriend who they've already met and she's like oh they're going to have a bunch out because of course they're going to have to other people come out because they're looking to to pair him with people his age. So do you have any young people. He can hang out with sue now. They're all looking him when they when they opened the scene. Everyone's just looking at him like it's islands. Everyone just has a straight face but there has age. If we're really being honest. They're his age. So now hannah a friend of their. She's trying to make conversation and they were asking him. Like what is the biggest difference between here and there and she said if you kiss your boyfriend public hogan jail for six months and i just realized how many men i would like to travel to tunisia. Do you have any ex-boyfriends that you wish you were in tunisia with right now shannon very a so so many so beauty so so mosh rebecca's going to murder hannah. Yeah let's gonna. She's gonna hurt her in the face. Hannah is literally the only person that tree ten like a human being. She's on talking to him. Yeah she's asking. She's not asking him ridiculous questions. That having a legitimate conversation he even makes a joke when she person. Yeah he was. He's killing it and rebecca is just doing. Oh my god she but she's not even like a confident mad. She's like this uncomfortable. Kid like oh like sulking. And it's very like i had such second hand embarrassment. So now her son. Now i gotta tell you. I think i was totally off about her son in law. I thought that he was very aggressive about ziad before he got here. And now i'm seeing like. Oh they treat her like a kid. 'cause she acts like a kid and he's actually just trying to be protective of her. I agree so he asked if They go hunting there and he said it's almost turkey seizing and maybe they can go turkey. Hunting together okay. I think that's adorable. I mean not that. I like turkey hunting. But they're just trying that's that's the way they bond. What are we going to do about that. Now she's gonna kill hannah and there's a band actually called. Kill hannah really. Yeah there is. there's a band. They used to hang out with them all the time when i was younger and i think that rebecca might have been the lead singer of so they as they had. What do you do. Usually when rebecca is at work. And he's like you know. I watch a movie. You know play. Xbox he's been there for like four days and that's all. He has is an xbox and xbox a mattress so hannah is like she also rebecca things that while she's at work ziad is going to go to the storage space by himself. Can't drive and he's gonna move all the furniture by himself on his back by foot by. I hope the search space. I cannot fits couch shopping carts so hannah's like actually my family has a lot of trucks. A lot of flack beds first of all. Is your family in the trucking business or did you guys just have a lot of cars. I couldn't tell this was obviously so staged by the produce producers so. She's like rebecca confronts him in front of the whole table. And as i do you hear what she's saying. She's saying that she'll help you move are you gonna. You're gonna let a girl. A woman move your. I don't think she was asking to help him move the furniture in no. I can't do you need to borrow one of the cars car if you load it exactly and it doesn't it's just this whole scene blows my mind because also like i know that it's supposed to be while she's at work like an intimate business. You're in america. You don't let women in the house when i'm and he's like why i don't know what's happening. I really don't know what's happening. He's like. I speak better english the new rebecca and i still don't know what's happening now when she asks him i he's like yes so then she says it again he's like no i don't even and rebecca's like this place so beautiful food so they all get up and leave without finishing their meals and like i don't know what i did. I think i did a bad thing. But i don't know what the bad thing was. She also thanked uses his culture however she wants to because when she's yelling at him. She's like You know what she's talking to the camera. She says i o in his culture. They don't have single women and men and then at the end she was like. Oh american women are different than how you're you in your culture it just using it however she can. She's a crazy person. Like for real. And i gotta tell you i have so much more to say about her and i think we're probably going to talk about some of this on our stereo party. We have a trash talk after. Show every single wednesday at seven pm eastern standard time. The greatest thing about stereo is that you should listen live because you could interact with us but if you don't you can listen. Afterwards the link is going to be right in the show notes. But if you don't see that it's stereo dot com slash trixie to zini so what you're going to do. Is you download the app. You're going to follow me and you're going to see all of our trash talk after shows for every wednesday at seven pm and you're going to be able to interact with us all the way. It is so much fun. We've been really just having a blast. We really have have brand new content. Going live on the stereo up every wednesday at seven pm and remember you will be able to talk with us directly on stereo because you ever realize like when you wrap up a podcast shannon and you have a podcast hill when you wrap up you forget to something super important all the time. Yes so this is what our after show is going to be like. Our listeners can get the full story here everything we missed it also just things for us to talk about an ask us specific questions. It's going to be so amazing shannon. Where could everyone find you. I know that you talked about your podcasts. A little bit. Can you talk about where they could find your show your social media and everything else you have going on sure So you can follow me on instagram. Shannon lee six nine eight to you can listen to my podcast. A thing is dang wherever you listen to podcasts. On itunes youtube spotify or go to gas digital network dot com. And you can listen to it there. That's about it awesome. You guys could follow this show. At ninety day. Podcast on instagram and twitter. You could follow him. Your host at trixie to zd on instagram twitter end stereo and as always we have merged for sale. Join our patriot. If you want more bonus content. We're going to be covering bears at all. Oh my god that's patriot dot com slash. 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"Tracy no l. you elo. Yon say trash draw. Hello and welcome to ninety day. Fiance trash talk this episode one hundred eight. I'm your host comedian. Tracy cornell joined by my lovely guest co host shannon lee chasing hi shannon. I am so excited for you to be here today because we actually got rid of noel. Finally our plan has worked. We got rid of. Noel is suggested that she go on vacation. And then i just didn't allow her to come back. She fell for it. Yes she. I mean who the area i was like. Hey no while. Why don't you go on vacation for valentine's day and she was like where should i go and i was like. I don't know maybe the woods and that's it so no all is now in the wood and here we are and shannon is my new co hosts for the rest of my life so come shannon or the rest of today at least at. I'll take it okay. Whatever i mean listen is what it is. I'm so happy that you're here. I if you guys don't know who shannon is you should shannon's been on the show before. She's a very good friend of the show and shannon has another podcasts as well shannon tell us about your other podcast. Sure it's called. The thing is ding. We talk about bad dates fighting and ghosts and we have comedians reality. Tv stars musicians porn stars. Come on and talk about their experiences with the paranormal with mandates or bad sex. And i'm getting into street fights. Oh okay have you ever had someone that's gotten into a relationship with a ghost and then fought them no on that. That's going to be when i stopped the show when that story comes on that i'm done. Thank you're searching for. Yeah but i have had two stories like run into each other but not never all three. Oh also who. Who's been like a few year favorite guests on the show. Besides me in noel. Of course may god rest her soul. I've had the best ghost stories are like my favorite episodes. So i'm zach amigo. Hosaka migos manekshaw goes hilarious. Oh my god. His story was like it should be made into a movie. It was terrifying zack. Has an actual podcast about horror movies. And i'm wondering if he channel that i think he's like i think this was a dream. It might have been a movie. I'm not sure if this was real and also comedian. Mike cannon the virus by podcast. His story will gave me goosebumps and almost made me cry. It was like djing go straight. Yep there's there's the great ones there's a lot of fun. Oh my guy so guys make sure you check out china's podcast. Everything will be in the show notes so make sure you go down there. We're here to talk about season. Eight episode ten of ninety day. Fiance's before we get into that. I just want to introduce everyone that hasn't been already introduced to this app. Stereo that we have been using to go live every single wednesday night. We have a show on stereo called the trash talk after show. And it's no ellen. I every single wednesday night at seven pm eastern standard time. And it's amazing because what it is is like everything that we forget to say on the podcast or and we also interact with the listeners on this show and it's amazing so make sure you go to stereo dot com slash trixie to zini again. It's going to be in the show notes. So guys click the link. Make sure you sign up for stereo. You can listen. Live and ask questions or you can listen afterwards because all the recordings are there in the stereo out. That seems like so much fun. Because i know when i listened to this show i often speak out loud in to you and no well so i feel like he gives listeners. A chance to do that for real. That's exactly what it is you can say. How many times like. I do it all the time on podcast. I'm like no wait or like they're saying this is my biggest thing when people are saying things and it's wrong and they're or they can't think of the name of something and i'm like hello. Can you hear me now. we can hear you. And that's that's what. Sarah is all about so we're going to do that so now. Let's go into this episode season. Eight episode ten of ninety fiancee. We're going to start off with just the most beautiful well-matched romantic couple mike. And natalie. this is real love guys. Wow so she has learned the word of the day now. I don't know if she had word of the day toilet paper as what i thought yet or was teaching her the word of the day. Is she picking a word that she wants to know. How do we pick the word of the day. I was thinking that maybe she came across this word on television or something and kept throwing it at him show now. This is his way of being like. Why don't you tell everyone. What your word of the day because you keep saying over and over again you think. It's just some sarcasm. His yes so. The word of the day for her is controversial right. Isn't that what it is. yeah. I can't really read my own handwriting type. I type out my should. I really should but i gotta tell you. I think that the pain and the agony of writing longhand notes is really the punishment for me to from picking this career fair. Yeah so they go out to eat and heat is talking to her with an accent. Am i wrong on this. I didn't pick up on on that with them. This is a big thing on this show. It's i mean listen. It's a big thing in life. We've talked about this. So many times people speak to people with an accent With their own version of an accent yell they speak very slowly and they speak with sometimes. It's not even the same kind of acts. Like i don't even think this was kind of russian accent now. I missed it. I do have this in my notes for another couple right. Yeah yeah. I missed it for them. It happens a lot. And i gotta tell you. There's something that i've been thinking about a lot on. This is that. I am just like intrigued by accents. I really am dying. I just feel like accents are so cool. Yeah the mailing me. How i just feel like they all just the fact of have like we have accents but we don't even know it. Yeah i mean. I get made fun of for my accent. Pretty often constantly. People think that i am like from. I was born in in the sewer in brooklyn and i feel like our accents. Aren't that strong. Compared to other new yorkers yeah not at all but it's just. It's so. I don't know like i think that obviously people mock people with accents and they use an accent to mock people. But i'm more intrigued than like. How did you come to pronounce that word like that like what happens. What is so different. I don't know. I need to take a class about this. This this is my new obsession. So there's forty five days left and she doesn't have address and he's like oh i think that's fine. It's it'll be no wedding right so don't even get address because we're just going. I'm gonna kick you out eventually so you know whatever feels it's felt like with this couple this whole season that he decided he doesn't want to do the show anymore. And hold the producers that in the producer like please just pretend and then he and natalie had a conversation he is like all right. We're going to do a show one more season and we're just gonna pretend that she says okay that's fine. He's forgets yet. No i think she forgets because he's just like let's just hang out and drink and have a good time and she is like what about the weather right and he's like wink wink. Natalie i told you just getting the cash right exactly. And she's like mike. I'm not authorized to be paid by the show and he's like what i can't hear you. Your accent is is very strong right now. And i don't understand what you're saying. So why don't you shut up and just do the show with me. Is that what you think is happening exactly. So they have lots of work on and she wants to go to therapy and he goes no. Oh okay cool. Simple answer he kinda like poop. Who's it he does. I think his answer is like it's only a little bit of like the macho attitude of not wanting to show feelings been getting deep into emotions but it's mostly because he just doesn't care he just wants forty five days to finish and for her to go home. I know and he's like well. I don't want to spend a bunch of money on okay. Saving a lot of money on heat. She's like Mike byrne styrofoam the other day in the fireplace. And i got some kind of terrible poisoning while you're at work and actually blacked out for three to four hours. Could we spend a little bit of money on therapy. And he's like no. That's a waste of money just to keep those styrofoam very controversial. Because she's like my lungs. When i breathe out flames come out. He's like yeah. That's america so so he just he keeps talking in circles. He's not making any kind of sense. So it's forty four days to the wedding and they're cooking together very angry. They are not happy about the situation. She is cutting a potato. He doesn't want her to cut the potato. They had already cut a potato are. They splitting up potato. I feel like they should never eat together. This is where rights happened. They shouldn't eat in the same room. Bay shouldn't but at the same time she makes shore that he's not allowed to meet so they have to shift to compromise. Somehow i would like to speak on behalf of all vegans for a moment or oh my god. That's range shannon. you're a vegan. Please give us a little bit of insight. Do you agree with natalie or non. I do not. I feel like i often don't even like to admit that i'm a vegan because or vegetarian. I don't know what she has Like natalie that give us a bad name for She's constantly shaming him. She's every time he goes put something in his mouth. She's like that's the worst way to make somebody do. What you want to do is constantly. Shamed them for what they're doing right. He's like don't drink. Don't eat meat. And it makes them angry to where he does it just to spite her right but also Why are you a vegan shannon like what is. What's the behind your your choice. So i originally gave it a shot. Because i wanted to lose weight and be healthier and I had never done it before. I was on i was in the mindset of meat is good and i don't feel like it's a good thing to give it up and then i was reading a bunch of books and i was like let me give it a shot and a a a few weeks in started to feel better. I started to lose it a little bit of way. Didn't i miss cheese. I'm going to be honest. But i didn't. I don't miss meat very much. And now it's been a little about almost a year and a half. Wow that i've been. And i mean i didn't do it for animal rights purposes attempt to feel better exactly. Yeah and i don't think everybody should be. I feel like do whatever the hell you wanna do. But it just it works for me. Look at that like just just worrying about yourself. is that what. You're doing that so crazy now. I cannot tell what her reasoning it so we do see that she does eat fish. So i'm assuming that she some kind of pesca -tarian which is like. I said your choice and like you said your choice also. It is odd that the one animal. She chooses to eat fish yet. She's so protective of them with the sound of the fireworks right. So here's the thing you can't scare them but you can kill them exactly yes. Sneak up behind them and kill them. Just make sure they're sleeping. Yeah before you murder them. You don't want to spook them up. Is everyone knows that everyone knows. You don't scare a fish. that's a ancient proverb. Exactly what happens. It's like seven years bad luck when you take a mirror. Ten years in the would if you scare a fish with the firework that's the thing so the thing is like i don't know is she's doing this to maybe just control them but also to fasching him. Yes there's a ton of fat shaming going on. Yeah she definitely i mean. I don't want to jump ahead. But i usually try not to watch the coming attractions but yeah i'm all. She has mentioned it before too where she calls him. Low class like. She thinks that he is winning the lottery by having by being graced by her presence and that she is not allowed to treat him however she wants that attitude so now she says something worse so she's cutting the extra potato and she says this is a quote. Thank god noel is no longer co host on the show ever again because this is the quote. I get chills. Just thinking about how she would react to this. She says i hate butter so i hope she's not even listening right now because if she's listening she's not gonna make it through. He's like you know. I want you to be fun. I want you to chill out. And then he goes to the fridge to get a beer and this is his quote. Oh no there's only one left. I feel like she doesn't like the drinking. Which is it's fine but also like you got him like that uh-huh you really can't change people yet. Also my favorite quote of her in this scene is her saying. I'm pretty fun. When i wanna be fun. So basically she just doesn't ever want to be the mine never ever wants to. But i do think that he knows that she hates the drinking so he goes hard on it exactly. Yeah yeah make the announcement. He has to smack his lips when he drinks. He has to go after every sip. It's so much sure it is a that is something that he does. It annoys me when they went into that little shop and he wanted to buy the decanters or whatever. Yeah he but it's also like he's being she is shoving his face so much as his only way of kind of pushing back. I think i know but like maybe then. Just don't be with her or have an actual conversation with her and be like. Hey natalie. here's the deal. I'm going to drink and if you keep making comments you can go in the pond with the fish. And i'm gonna play. I'm going to start shooting off tons of fireworks. I'm gonna play the scaring game. He says no again about that. She's like hey just checking in to see where you are about the therapy. And he's like. Oh no no. That's what we're gonna do. You're gonna know they whenever she reminded us like. I don't know i have megaphones. Asked certain sounds trigger me right when she says michael in constantly to get his attention but he's the other room. I have the same visceral reaction. To the sound of somebody chewing. He's just in the next name in the next room. There's nobody else in the house the other room known. I don't think there is another room. I think that the closet smells bad because that's where they cook cabbage so like i don't think i don't see room per se. I see different angles of the same room. That's fair half partitions. But yet it's kind of looking open concept modular home. It's really just a beautiful thing. So he says no again about the therapy but then he goes to jane for his haircut and he sits down in the chair and he looks right in the face and goes do my hair like my mom. I want bangs like trash and she was like michael finally. Finally you're coming to and understanding. So they talk about natalie a little bit and she says this is a quote. What are you guys disagreeing on. And then he looks her right in the east and goes mostly buttering aliens. And i couldn't believe like most people you know butter aliens also her engagement ring and she's like oh cool when i go on a date just getting if i'm getting if you are. Do you think that she is legitimately. Because she does. Get a little flirty. Do you think it's legitimate or do you think this is a production planted. No i think it's legitimate. I think that's why they chose her because she's probably like beyond tv with my tricia son miche with the bangs. Oh my god. Maybe he'll let me do the bangs on him. There are much better couple. They will love eating and drinking together. This is so true though. He needs to find butter lover. Likes the would but now they talk about like her not having a ring. Yeah so the thing is is that she was i. Listen i don't like natalie but i also in this episode kind of almost saw her side of things for a little bit and i was like you know. I guess i've been in relationships before where you can paint me as the villain when you don't really know what goes on. Besides that. so yes. She gave him the ring back but like what really happened. He was making her feel so bad that she didn't know what else to do to kind of get his attention. Yeah maybe refresh my memory. But from what i remember of that whole thing was when they were in russia the ukraine that it's not see. Here's the thing it's not not a different place. Okay like it kinda used to be part of got it. Yeah natalie's home very natalie in natalie or natasha's home question that they. They had the interview where she refused to say that she loved michael. Okay so that was on the towel okay. So that wasn't the catalyst to their whole fight. No i don't think it was afterwards. Or maybe she said it twice. She might upset it twice. Because i remember she did say on the tele but she might have said it in the confessional as well okay. Yeah because i have a hard time remembering like what. Their big problem was when he left. The big album was that she wanted a baby. Okay right now and he was like yeah. You don't even live like we're not even approved for the and she's like it's fine. Just put a baby me right now. I will cook it here. I will cook it here and then i will burn it in the closet. And he's get you haven't seen my my my set up yet so i think maybe you should. You should put the brakes on the baby and come over. I and see if you like it here right. I remember that. Was i think a lot of it so she so she's gene is cutting hair and she's talking while she's buzzing his hair but the greatest thing about this audio is that you can't hear her she's just buzzing took the television. The buzzer very loud. So i don't know if maybe they should have recorded. we're podcasters. Maybe they should have recorded the buzzers track separately. I've been lowered it just to give the buzzing a fact or made her pretend to buzz and then put a little buzzing sound effect in at a very low volume. You should write a letter okay. I'm gonna see what i could do. so now. He winds up going to couples therapy with her and they need doug and mike is like listen. I'm expecting a call from one thousand nine hundred seven. So i'm gonna keep my blue tooth year piece in because i also am a taxi driver on the side. I need to make sure that. I have this bluetooth in my ear during this entire therapy session. I feel like this was an easy way for him to instead of like just constantly having has is rolling right through the whole session. He's able to just signify how much he does not give a crap with think that he was listening to ninety day. Fiance's ashok maybe. Hi mike mike. If you're in couples therapy right now within the natalia slash natasha we we don't we used to be on your side not so much anymore but we do. I mean i say okay to butter. A shannon is like earth balance so he has this thing this thing in his ear that i cannot believe and doug is like guys. What do you think that the biggest problem is and natalia. I like to call him to tell you now. By the way talia is like it's very hard to communicate with him because he's always on the phone with someone with a bluetooth is year and i was like. Do you think that maybe the bluetooth is part of the problem. He's like what blue what bluetooth. This is part of my ear now. I think that they could not have picked a worse therapist for to sit with them. I think he was terrible in my personal. Tell me why okay. What stuck out to me. I. this is just a stupid thing but it annoyed me. I felt i'm on mike side. I felt his annoyance the entire session. But when when they walk in the therapist says this is the spot. Pick your favorite seat. There's just a couch there. There's just a couch and how do you know maybe there's something that you can see. Maybe there was a tiny hammock hanging from the ceiling. Maybe there was a swing. Maybe there was some pillows on the floor that they can lay down when you were in When you were in school guidance counselor's office and they're like if you want to sit on the floor there and just lay down. And i'd always be like yeah. Of course. I want to just lay down. Can you also not talk to me. great. I'm sorry i didn't realize you didn't receive a whole room. You just saw the one couch area. I feel like a lot of therapists do that though. Pick your favorite seattle. they do. I'm telling you like every therapist office. That i've been inside of because now everything's virtual It's so crazy because they do say like sit wherever you're comfortable. And they usually have two options. One of them is more of a city thing and one of them were as a lay down kind of option. I always pick the city but also sometimes like i've been to their office where they go hard lake chair and then they have a couch. I'm not gonna lay on anything. But i will sit on the couch before. I'm going to sit on the chair. That's fair. yeah so we don't know. I think that you need to hold your judgment on that. What else was it about. Doug so i feel like mike could be one over But whenever mike now. I feel weird calling him mike. I feel like i need the same michael. But whenever the 'sorry michael anti i'm going to change my notes for natasha. It's whatever you feel comfortable calling her whenever he. I feel like the key things that he said. The therapist just glossed over For example when he said. I don't think we're in love with each other anymore the therapists and this is obviously. This could be heavy editing yet editing. Because i don't okay so she did say that she wants to express to him that it was hard for her to leave her country. And this is a quote. Now i live in the would says my favorite so he ignores her emotions right and he claims that he tried to make her feel comfortable. Now listen again. Never on her side before. But now i kind of am because okay shannon you have your boyfriend coming from scotland. He's have a great so he's coming to your house and he's gonna come live with you. Are you doing anything to prepare for his arrival. Yes yes i do agree with you here especially during. I would have in the fridge. The things that he likes to eat like our cater. The place. As much as i could his preferences i understand what spot to sit in. He wouldn't be would put the hammock up. You put a little bean bag chair on the floor. I understand see. I would even see. I don't know if this is a woman thing though like i might say like. Oh you like lasagna. And i would have made a lasagna. Kept it in the fridge for some grab and go meals because remember. He's going to be in the house and you're going to be off at work right so now instead of him having to cook every meal just like the first few days maybe he could just unwind. Heat up some liaison. You know. that's fair. Yeah and i do think this may be a woman thing. Because i don't think there has been a single man on this show. That has ever done anything you. And what was his name. Eric in something is the guy can't remember. Now i know all lead lead. Yes yes yes yes. We'll blow up the couch. That was effort you right. I'm sorry and he also made the boxspring so they can lay down on it so he did do a lot of the. I don't know what it is. It's like why wouldn't you want these people to be happy like comfortable in your home. That is now going to be their home. And i do think that he did not really prepare now when he said that they aren't in love i think he was paying her back for what she did at the tell all and how what we were just talking about how she said in the confessional that they are not in love anymore. I where that she doesn't love him. I don't agree. I feel like. I feel like after him being angry about that. Whole situation that that it's now actually worn off for him because even when she was first coming back here right and like her visa was approved. He was kind of like all right. I mean i guess. I guess we have to do it now. Be sure where proves shy. But i don't think that those feelings have ever actually his heart wasn't in it. Yeah and i think this is him actually finally admitting that and from what at least is shown to us by the editing of this. It appears that the the therapists never asked him to clarify. Never made sure. Natalie hurt well. He definitely didn't clarify. Because i will tell you this but again. I think this is the editing he was like. What do you want to hear from her. And then i didn't understand anything that he said. I played it back ten times. And i was like. I think this is bad editing. Because i'm not sure where this conversation is fitting in. It's true also One other thing that natalie said when she said that He wasn't carrying about her emotions are trying to understand how she feels but there were times that we saw at least where he said. Tell me what your when. She had the tantrum outside in the woods and she walked away and he said. Tell me what you're feeling like. Use your words. Like i don't i don't know so. He has attempted to talk to her and ask her what feeling but she is just shuts down right. She was like. I'm gonna kiss this tree on the so. Just leave me alone now. He goes outside from the therapist office and the producer astor. Ideally asked them. Ideally what would he like and he says in an ideal world. He wants to get married and have kids. But maybe not with natalie. I think they meant in an ideal world. What would happen with natalie. I don't know. I don't know they did leave. It pretty open ended right. But yeah i i think that's just more to. He's he's checked out but there was a little bit of emotion that came over him at the end of this was maj way he was annoyed. He's like are you guys gonna pay me or no. I take this phone call already. He's like i have had someone on hold for forty five minutes so please let me get back to my phone call. Thank you so much. Now we talked about how natalie says again quote. I hate butter and that is just the wrong way of thinking because there really aren't any quote unquote bad foods. That's that's the whole thing and that's what we really have to think about when we think about the kind of way that we eat because when you think about everything you've ever learned about getting healthy. There's a lot of contradictory information out there and things like that old fashioned food pyramid aren't much help but you understand what i'm saying right a.k.a. Vegan better all the time and eating better to feel better understanding cravings and knowing how to shop and knowing that no food is quote unquote bad is very very important and neum will help you make better choices. Because it's based in psychology and it teaches. You y you make the choices that you do. And it gives you the tools to replace your habits with healthier once. They use cognitive behavioral approach. And it means that you're not just losing weight. You're building the habits that you need to keep it off because you're human and neum is forgiving and if you go off track you'll be back on tomorrow. The thing that i love about new is that it really does encourage you to eat more vegetables vegetables. I'm on board with. I think. I know and it's just something that like. Sometimes i just never really thought about you. Know you're always like looking at what you're eating and you think about what not to eat but you don't think about what you do want to eat. That's and that's a that's a big thing and there's a science to getting healthier. It's called neum so sign trial today at neum n. o. m. dot com slash trash-talk. You can learn how to eat again with neum. Sign up for your trial today at noon and dot com slash trash talk. Are you ready to learn how to live healthier. I think you are so sign up for noon today n. o. m. dot com slash trash. Talk all right now. Let's move on to Yara and hobie hoving. They're going to have an engagement party in the bio and now she meets his dad very exciting his and he also was supreme. Sweatpants on miss. This guy is take major. Major douchebag ary. Yeah i mean like a going into this scene. At first i was thinking. Well i yar seems like. She's not on point she only has one layer slayer of makeup on like probably tired and she starts off kind of a little crappy. I never know if. I can curse in the show or not absolutely correct. Okay so your mom listens. I don't wanna be offensive curse. I just don't ken okay. So i don't care if she i don't care if Yes she hates you. That's that is what it is. It's not gonna buy paper towels from cosco. She's still going to them for me. You know what i'm saying. I got it. So he started typing. Yara didn't have great bedside manner while speaking to hove as father because she was. I think she was tired. I think she was angry. I think she doesn't feel good. And it's like these people are there to judge her. Yeah because he immediately like bit back like his bedside manner was even worse than hers. Was there to her. He hadn't met her before he was at work when she arrived. He makes it like. She's a package right when ups dropped her off. I was at work so we left her by the back door and that is how they treat her. They don't treat her like a human being ope. she is an import. They imported her so his mom. Gwen is having fifty to sixty people at this quote unquote small party. So when is looking at her and lying to her fees. And while gwen is lying hove v is drinking. Of course he's drinking and she's like they're like how do you like new orleans. She's like oh. I don't like it at all. I get very scared to walk around the other. Okay what's his name monte. I think i called them. Marty his name is monty down. He said oh yeah. It's very dangerous for a woman that dresses like you. I've seen that The way that you dress. I've seen pictures of you. So he's basically implying that might be mistaken for a hooker. This makes me so angry. This first of all and she i mean. She backs herself up. Yes up well. But it's like when when i'm on vacation isn't often but i would never wear the outfits that i wear on vacation anywhere else. So what you're saying shannon. I'm just trying to understand that. So when you were a bikini at the beach when you're In puerto rico okay. You don't wear that on the subway in new york city doesn't that's just i'm just trying to figure this out. So you've saying you're saying that you have dressed in maybe like a sexy way right at an event that it's appropriate for and then not warranted at four. Am walking in a dark alleyway in naxi. It's so weird. Because i think that whatever you put on social media is just how you always are. Also i am on her. I don't love new orleans. I era. I've only been there one time. Maybe a younger people place okay. But it's also like. I don't know if she understood what she was coming into. Because i think that. Listen i i like new orleans. I don't wanna live there but a lot of people feel it about new york city. That's you know. And it's also you know different neighborhoods different areas. So she just that's not her thing and remember something jovi really embraces the culture of drinking. They're he us and the partying and they have mentioned strippers four hundred times in just this one scene so he is living when they say like people say. I don't like new york city a lot of times. What they mean is i don't like midtown manhattan But when you really come down to it. No one really is spending their day to day life in midtown manhattan in times square standing under a billboard right. That's fair jovi is actually. He's like a permanent tourist in his own city. He's going to am store every day. That's the equivalent of going to the eminem store to do his grocery shopping. He's going to bourbon street every night. He's spending his evenings at strip clubs. Which again it's it's fine like i'm not shaming anyone but at the same time like i don't think that you know the lifestyle that he is telling you he's going to give her is going to happen if he still partaking. In that kind of behavior i agree. It's also i mean. I guess the overall thing though is he has no business getting in a serious relationship moving somebody here to this country from a different country when he he wants to be a party boy which is fine. Then yeah exactly you. We're not shaming shaming him but quote unquote. We're not shaming him. But at the same time it's like don't drag someone into that. It's not like she's a party girl you know i will say that looks are deceiving. When she got off that plane i was like. Oh this girl is really going to be a handful and then you know she was like demanding things in the apartment and it's like when you really think about it. It's like oh she wanted a nice rug. That's it one. She wanted her prague. She really wanted remarkably white rug. I would love one she was. She liked kerr. I really do like her now. The other thing is that his family is really trying to push the narrative that almost like she's a mail order bride from the ukraine. Right and i love a obviously could have been done in a better way. But when they say to her every body who lives in new everybody to america every body from the ukraine wants to come to america every single by and she says she comes back she can never my dream. She's like look around. Look at this guy. This was my dream a nightmare this swamp. That was major. So she's she's like okay. Fine you wanna see that all ukrainians wanna come to america. She's like that's like saying all americans are stupid. Because that's what people in the ukraine say about american vern. I mean it was the perfect response much fat lazy and stupid. Just you just said that. She's like no. I know i mean. I think that we're proving her quite right with her current relationship so she would like to move to budapest eventually. And i like how she comes out first meeting with her father and she's like. Oh yeah you're going to like kind of bullying me. I'm going to tell you the things that are going to make your head spin also. They're they're accusing her. Of just wanting having this quote unquote american dream and just wanting much to america. She immediately says. I don't wanna live in this country and now they're switching over to. She wants to take our son away so like which you just wanna hate her for any reason. They're so afraid to lose him and his mom says this is a quote. I don't want him moving to europe. They okay so here's the other thing right. They seem very uncultured and like the small town like this by you mentality and yet if his dad has the same job that he has his dad has been traveling the world for a very long time. So i don't know why. They seem so oblivious to other cultures you know what though when when he is travelling he may be just traveling with his group of workers and not really experiencing those cultures may cause his mom was like europe. Pretty general also they he saying to To them that they have to decide soon where they wanna live because after they get married. It's gonna be too late. Why why after you get married you just have to stay in one place forever while they're saying that after they get married. It's not as easy to get to divorce her. She wants to move basically what they're saying. So now gwen is like listen. We need to make your comfortable in the us. Because she can't take my little baby boy away and he's drinking. I know that it's weird but Jovis drinking and yarra wants to nap because she is pregnant and no one knows and so him and his dad go to a crawfish boil with his friends from the bio. And they're on their way there. Obviously gwen is driving them because they are alcoholics. At least they're being responsible. They're very responsible. Gwen will be there uber. Driver for the day and drops them off and the dad in the car is like did we lock up everything in the house. Do you think it's safe to have left her by herself. It's you know. I am yes and i am on board with Jabbing like jokes are may be slightly offensive. I would say working guest joan that work. I am on board with that kind of humor. I'm sure however if you are trying to convince your parents that you are with this woman for love and that she is with you for love. Maybe don't always jump in on the jokes about your future wife trying to scam you on rob your family right. Yeah just like maybe wait until they get a little bit more acquainted till they're married mary and then you can tell your parents that she's a hooker. You just wait though. Just give it a second. So they don't all of his friends don't think the marriage will last like two months two weeks blah blah blah and. Then one of his friends says how many. How long do you have to be married for her to be able to stay here and he says three years and they're like all right. Well that's how long you're going to be married. They're also imply. I can't wait until she sees this footage. Oh my god see honestly. I don't think she really cares. Like she didn't care because she doesn't care what sarah said either. Okay she's like these people. I mean nothing. I don't even care. But they do his friend frankie incline heap talking about how. He loves strip clubs. Yeah this is not just one time combo i mean. She is so hot though really is she's beautiful. She's got a banging body so it's like if you're going to. She's funny yes so if you're gonna get someone close to the appearance of a stripper you got it short right. It's like are you looking for a hotter girl. Not i mean. She's pretty hot agreed. Yeah yeah i. I do agree with that so now. She's getting ready for the party and she's in her dress and he's like. How much did that cost. And she's like oh a few thousand dollars she's just trying to shut him up and then as she's getting just he's sprinkling powder on his head. I don't. I was hoping i thought that i was in coming here to show. And i was gonna make fun of that and you're gonna make me feel stupid by was hoping same. I thought you were going to make me feel stupid. I do maybe it was like a volume izing powder. Have you ever used that. Like on your roots. Where a little texture. Yeah it's like a little powder that you could sprinkle and it gives you texture so you get a little volume. So i've used like a dry like is dry shampoo right just kind of like a power power but in spray form so there is some sort of liquid component to it but he he didn't just sprinkle a little bit on like kept the whole bottle. Assault was in his scalp. Somebody both beam was like putting fish food bank. Exactly he didn't stop. It's not like he gave it a little sprinkle and then we removed onto the next product. Like there was a lot of powder in his head he has and then he says she says your hair looks like shit. He's like. I know i was like i wonder why. Because you're putting you just put old bay seasoning all over your head. He's like well. I just came from the crawfish boil. So was that not a good thing to put in my now she He didn't bring her any food. He brought her crawfish. she's pregnant. She feels nauseous right so she has morning sickness and you know. He brought her leftover crawfish from a crawfish boil. That happened hours before. Can i just throw in really quickly. When they referred to the crawfish as red mud bugs. Yes is the most disgusting thing i've ever heard. Imagine life no. Yeah that is what they're called so gross. It makes me want to eat them so much less than i already don't eat them but also he's like he's like what are you mad at me for. I put in absolutely the least amount of effort possible to bring you something. He's like after everybody and touched all the food. I brought you cold crawfish. That had been laying out for a long time. And i know that you're pregnant and you don't like seafood but i made a made you a little doggy bag of my bugs. He like scraped it off the table hands for some of them are on the floor. But you just you just really boil them. Well you're not going to eat. Charlotte sign sanitize them. So she's like. I feel sick. I feel like i'm gonna throw up. And now i feel like i'm gonna throw a not even because i'm pregnant because i'm looking at. You bringing me crawfish. Thank you so much so she wants to tell his family that she's pregnant and he's like oh don't tell them because we're not even going to be able to see the doctor. Oh she says we're not going to be able to see the doctor for three months and he says but we can't tell them until we see the doctor she's like i mean i'm pregnant. I think he's hoping for the pregnancy to go away. Yes that he's like but remember what happened last time. We can cross our fingers right now. It's it's i do agree with you on that. I also understand that. People don't announce pregnancy for a while because of the risk of miscarriage and she does have a history of that so it's like maybe a little bit scary for him but i don't think that's where he's coming from absolutely not giving too much credit It's almost like hey you know if if you tell them you're pregnant again like me. They're going to think. Maybe i drink too much. So he's already hung over clash. Drunk was way before before they even leave for the party. And he's like aggravated. Here's like can we get to this party already. I think it's because his beer was getting low. Yeah for sure because when you stop drinking you get hung over. So i'm sorry. But the weiming the one he had in his hands literally like he's like i only have twelve car beers and it's a three minute drive. How are we going to get to the party. So she's annoyed at him and he doesn't know why she's mad at all. She's taking selfies of herself. And he's like you only care about yourself. She's like she's like you only care about your beer. And he's drinking in the car on the way now but he hasn't been drinking he okay. She called hollick and he says and this is a quote now ready. He said i only had five beers. I'm not drinking. And i haven't been drinking just warming up baby so you know i'm just trying to so you've only had five beers. Also she says that's a lie. She said that you said that three years ago so he's ahead at least beers and then he says he admits that he's had at least five but also that he's not drinking and he's not drunk just because you are not drunk off eight beers know what that means. That means you have a drinking problem. That is not a bragging rate. He's like look i. I drink the whole bottle of cuervo. Adam fine yet. Maybe it'll tell people that used to actually data guy that when we would head out like go party or go to a bar or something he would fill a solo cup with a drink. Four the drive as he was driving. You know what that's called. An alcoholic called alcoa and it's called the cheap alcoholic so i don't know why things didn't work out with you guys. I'm so sorry. Shannon i don. That's sensitive also then. He adds that she's stupid. So that's the icing on the cake. It's really great so to rican hazel. Let's talk about them. It's april twenty twenty. She's never driven a car so he lets her drive the lawnmower for practice. This is joe great right. I don't know. I would be scared to even drive a lawnmower and you can do it. I'm gonna send you over to virginia beach and we're going to get you some more driving lessons. Maybe you could be the third who knows forty one days left and she's on the elliptical their quit working out as a family. Everyone's on lockdown and now. She scared because she heard from the grapevine that her son. Harry has a fever. So she's try. She's she's crying shannon. She heard now from harry. Step mom that he has a fever. That was a while ago rumor. Has it rumor that she heard she read in the paper. That harry might have a fever. So now she's crying and tariq feel super guilty and she said the last time that she called his step mom she didn't call she didn't answer so now i'm assuming days later. She calls her back so she calls again. And ruby picks up and she. This is now. This is why i don't think the kennedy fever she says to ruby. Does harry still have a headache. And she says no and that was it. That was it. It was like all god cold cured. She also translates into you. She says she's feeling he's feeling way. Better thank you for asking. She's just like no so now. Harry comes on. He seems better right or he seems probably the exactly how he will anymore. Which is fine and and he's talking to wreak in his language and to rico's use your english. I don't like to wreak i'm gonna tell there's so many reasons why i don't like to make if you guys listen to last week's podcast. We covered bears all recovered episodes one and two and we saw tariq wrap so. That's the number one reason. I don't like him. I skipped it. Because i didn't want it. Felt about him. Honestly don't watch it if you want to listen to the episode. That's fine but don't watch the at all it was. It was uncomfortable. It was upsetting and just not not because it was sad just because it was upsetting terrible now i feel like tariq things he's the knight in shining armor saving hazel from poverty. You i'll wait for you to the next part before. I give you all like he's like oh i don't know she's gonna come here to my big american house and drive my big american lawnmower. I have two to three vehicles. i don't even know. She's seen a wheel before they all do this. Poll yeah. let's look carini poop. Water just liking your country. Look a trailer. Isn't that all you ever dreamed up. Look we put the dogs in cages. So much nicer than you house. Just roam free. Oh my god so now he also is okay. So harry is recovering from covid. Apparently from folded fake ovid. He's like you need to drink orange juice every day. He's like you need to overload your body with sugar as much sugar as you can. That's very good for you. And he's like we don't have money for orange juice so he says instead of sending twenty bucks over there so you can have orange juice forever. No no now. This kid's gotta do jumping jacks in the house. Because he can't play a side. Why did he. I am scared. He has custody of a child. Custody of a child with special needs terrifying. So now his daughter ari goes over. And she's gonna talk to harry on this video call and he points to harry and goes he's going to be your brother and she looks to tariq and she walks away and i gotta tell you that is the correct reaction for her three response. Yeah i'm like. Yeah i would too because it's just like why are you trying to force this. This is strange. So now hazel tells harry. It's going to go very very long time to get him here. And this is a quote because there is a corona fan in. Was this really the plan. We plan to take harry over. So what you're gonna do is you're going to have. Harry live his whole life basically with his father and stepmother basically his mom. Because that's right that's how it works. And then you're going to rip him away and he could basically never see them again right but i mean like says she already didn't have custody in one couldn't afford it here yes alike not only like changes surroundings. As far as the people he surrounded by but different country language right everything and also. It's just heartbreaking. That says to him it's gonna be like forever. She's like listen. Don't get your hopes up on this. There is one corona here and honestly if you had orange juice have been making mimosas but instead there is a corona at the current is going to be doing jumping. Jacks and so just doing your jumping jacks also tariq teaches them how to do a jumping jack. They don't have jumping. Jacks the phillipi. He's like anyone in the philippines. Have you ever moved your body now. Okay let me teach you this. American jumping jack secure. All this is a very good remedy if you have a fever if you fever and a headache what you need to do immediately as jumping jacks so that in mind if you feel good so just some jumping jacks art. We're gonna move on to stephanie and ryan out. She's teaching them. How to hula-hoop now. They're having a ton of fun her voice. It's very old. It's much older than she is. When i hear her voice if if you close your eyes when she's speaking. I think eighty five to ninety five. I agree. I sounds very very old. My may i send here. Is i hate everything. Yes i do not like either of them no he. Also i feel bad for him. Because i feel like he has not done a ton of research on michigan because he says that he wants to explore michigan with her. Now no offense to michigan but he lives in belize understand about people from tropical places. While i understand that there's poverty so that that i understand but exploring michigan is going to be more underwhelming than you know is probably equal amounts of poverty. Yeah it's i mean. It's not the great bolt. She also lives a lavish lifestyle. So it's going. It's not going to be his experience in michigan. So his mom she's like is your mom. Happy that we're together and we're in love. And she goes. He goes yes. She's so happy that it's going to be a good experience for me and that you're going to help me get a job. She's like yeah but she happy that we're in love and he's like yeah. That's what i just said that you're going to get a job and that you have a lot of money whether have a job or not. You're gonna pay me so have so. We find out that his his mom has blocked her. I mean that's you have to be really bad if you are funneling money to somebody and annoy them so bad they block you. That's what i'm saying like cheese. Like i don't even want your money. That's how annoying. You are so what happened. Was we find out. And we knew that stuff and he was insane but this is really the confirmation so she got in a fight with him and she basically threatened him that she would ask for the money back for but but not all the money just months money because his mom didn't thank her or thank her working out the way that she wanted to be. And he's like yeah. My mom doesn't have to bend over backwards to you. Like if you choose to give money and you choose to help us out like you're choosing that from your heart rate also. It doesn't seem like they're asking her so if you do. Yeah so if you decide to do this. I mean it's very clear through to control him. Exactly yeah and Sorry am i would really like to take time out to speak about. She wears three different outfits sources in the first scene. Where she's there hulu right. She's wearing a rash guard as if maybe they're going surfing short white shorts and sandals. This just doesn't work. And i mean you're on vacation just like we spoke with our earlier when vacation. You wear cute things. Sure your boyfriend that you haven't seen in ten months. Why why is this your choice of out. I'm gonna tell you. There are definitely areas that maybe she does not wanna show okay. Oh i thought you meant that. It's not okay for her to show parts of her body in that area. In case you know salt you know it's gross. Yes no not at all. I think that remember something now. i'm not body shaming her whatsoever but you do have to understand that she is a very vain person and that's what she cares about. She owns a med spa again. Nothing wrong with that but she does Think that her appearance and her youth is the most important thing. Okay but so. I think that she's trying to avoid exposing certain of her body. Because i think like it's like this if you're fat and you wear something oversized and in a dark color. You think that no one thinks you're right. Stephanie things that if she dresses maybe like how a toddler dresses. That no one's gonna know what age she is the diaper in along shirt. When she's wearing that onesie that snaps at her crotch she's wearing a body suit and A huggies it regardless of what your body type is you can dress cute without revealing. But she doesn't know that she doesn't know that she is she the way she dresses is very odd as well. I don't think that this is just who she is. There's there's always something that she's trying to hide or try to. Accentuate the these weird parts of her body. I think that her shorts always way too big on her. Yes everything is too big. In in that next each is she's literally iphone. I gave the benefit of the doubt. And i wrote down t shirt dress. That's not. It's not a t shirt dress. Don't just his t shirt yet. But i think that she also likes back because she feels like like when you're in like you know when you're a teenager and you wanna wear your boyfriend hoodie. It abed no she but she wants everyone to know that they're together and then this young couple that's very important to her is that they're a fun loving young couple so his mom just just blocked her and she said that she's trying to keep them fed and keep the lights on and now she doesn't send them any money now that his mom blocked her so she asked him. How many thousands of dollars do you think i've sent you. He's like. I don't know i want you to leave me alone but also i mean still some money but also leave me alone. He really you can see him like clenching his jaw as he speaks to her and like really restrains his respond on. Tell me understand like i understand. He's orleans she gives me money she gives you money. She gives me money. Just sh- calm down. Ryan calmed down ryan. You've gotten I don't know an unprecedent amount of money from her. Please ryan just be quiet. You could do this. Mom's already blocked her mom's already blocked. Refine we're gonna be okay. She's such a hero though she so his mother went space from her telling fair and i mean they were like. Bff's when they were they were they or is this how she pushes herself on people and forces her to say i love you back to her. She's like say you love me or i'm not going to send the money. I love you. Stephanie she sends a scripted. she's like when i send you money. This is how you this is. This is what you say. Because i clearly wasn't clear before. She's very old in the voice. She needs to get a voice injection. Maybe at the medicine they can do that. So she stricken heavy. I think it's a lot of her problem. She is drinking very heavy and they still have not had relations since she's been there i think she's been there for four to five hours the way i couldn't tell how long she had been there but she's checking in with her psychic so don't worry about it god they go to dinner and her. His mask is a picture of her. A it's another rebecca bad. I wonder where he got that from or do you want one. They've done do you think do you think he makes them for himself or you think that she sends that now that was in her luggage and his mom's why do i have stephanie mass. Everyone in that town does. He keeps sending stephanie mass. I asked her for right money. She sent me seven thousand mass when her picture on it. She's like do you know much that's worth she's like. How many mass did i send you. Pay your bills while you eat the masks. She's been checking with her psychic. Thank god and he says that he doesn't believe in psychics. He thinks like that kind of stuff is like the devil. And i understand that that is a religious belief. I think christians are not supposed to believe in psychics. Yada yada yada. And he's like listen. Do you think that maybe you tell maria so much about me. That she uses that to maybe influence her readings and she's like give maria any information. She tells her literally minute by minute. Their best friend and i sent her transcripts of every conversation that we have. So she's like what if you want kids or something. Maria says you're going to look for a young girl that have kids with he's like i don't want kids. I don't want kids right now. And she's like wait a minute you just said right now and i think that what he means. I don't want kids until after you die. It's i saved enough money from you. And then i can have no. But i think that he could just wait until she ages out and then he could still have kids. It's fair so Okay so this is what i think about stuff any. I've been really trying to analyze. How i feel about stephanie. 'cause i don't hate her but then like i don't like her and what i have realized is that i feel like she is like if you ordered darcy for wish dot com. You would get stephanie. Stephanie is like a poor man's dorsey and darcy's already a poor man's darcy. I feel like that's like more credit than she deserved. I mean they're crazy in different ways. Right yeah i don't know there aren't very many redeeming things about her deafening well. Also we don't know we don't really know a lot about her besides her trying to kill her cat very slowly so shiny nearer cat lady self admitted right. What do you think about her feeding the cat. Some play low fat key lime yogurt. It's insanity it's insanity. And i mean that doesn't to my knowledge occur in the wild right no. I don't think cats are trying to hunt down. Yo play yo fat yogurt in the wild. You don't think that there is a little bit like like tigers right because tigers are felines. You don't think that there's tigers that are just looking for some key lime of it. He's like oh. My god two percent. Only it's gonna watch my weight over here so now four hours later rate everything seems fine. Four hours later we get this like almost like self taped footage s. He's leaving she gelling that he's lying and he said that he has a cab waiting and then she goes f off and die but she also of course says to throw in there in the heat of this argument. He says he has a cab. She says with what money is that really the milan important thing right now. It's probably a one dollar cab because he works at that resort. He's probably calling a golf cart to take him back to his room. That's harris him up. Arizona drives uber so that and she's already paid him. That stephanie needs a ton of help and right now she's in belize. And i don't know if maria is the best person for her to be getting support from. I think that she should be talking to a licensed professional counselor. Like the ones that you can get when you use better help online counseling. I used better hop online counseling. I absolutely love it. If i was in belize and having anxiety because my boyfriend that was thirty eight years younger than me was giving me grief or if his mom blocked me like family issues. I would be talking to my therapist from better online. Counseling the services available for clients worldwide. And you can talk about your depression stress. Anxiety relationships trauma anger any kind of complex literally. Anything you share is confidential. It's convenient it's professional it's affordable and so many people have been using better help that they are recruiting additional counselors in all fifty states. I want you to start living a happier life today. And as a listener you'll get ten percent off your first month by visiting better help dot com slash fiance join over one million people taking charge of their mental health again. That's better help. H. e. l. p. dot com slash fiance speaking of mental illness. Let's talk about andrew and amirah. One sentence only was not a quote. I just have no. I hate them while. He's going back home to california. He's sue percents to go home alone to quote a world of confusion. What a world and after his two week vacation in mexico. That's where you're not going back to a world's confusion you're going back to your mom's daycare you're gonna you're gonna do some cost plate your mom's daycare. I don't even think you worked there. I think you just go there so. He's looking at a mirrors deceit on the airplane that she still paid for. I'm sure do you think she paid her part of that trip. Yeah i sure do so now. His mom picks him up and he said that he misses amirah everyday. He's like. I missed her swimming with the dolphins. I missed her during a buffet breakfast. I missed her. When i was doing the walking tours. I missed atv tours. I missed is having talks tacos on the beach. I really miss her that much during the massage because the girl really did keep me a lot of company but i did miss her like in other ways. I didn't miss her when i was sleeping. Either because i slip diagonally on the bed. And i was happy for that but i do miss her all the time. So his mom's like oh has she talked about the detention center that she was in and he's like not really just because i was so busy like i was eating crepes. And then she like You know ooh so said. I was in jail and then i was like a mirror. I can't really hear you. you're breaking up. You didn't have like the best service you know. And then you know having yeah like. I'm having a margarita. Please tell me the story while. I'm drinking a margarita in the sign league. I don't want to hydrate from my tears like she didn't tell me also i didn't ask also. Yeah it was like. It's better that you should talk to a counselor about that. So this is what tossing around the idea of. Going to serbia. What tossing. who's who's you're tossing into her. You just keep tossing. It's her and she keeps not catching it. Because but it's so easy. So easy to go through serbia. You just listen. He wants her to do whatever makes her feel safe securing comfortable. So you know it's like if you have to swim from france to the us then it's like whatever makes you happy. Yeah like i just go to a different countries because a different language and then you know. Hang out there for fourteen days by yourself right here. I am seven to ten percents. Sure that she won't go back to his attention center. So i don't know. Serbia seems like a really good established. Country what what. i think. She's going to be fine. Like i don't know why she wouldn't want to. I want to live in serbia right now. I was thinking maybe even she could go through. Maybe the middle east and just stay there for a little while maybe through e gel like maybe jordan or You know what i was saying. Serbia in syria. I was saying maybe she should go to syria for a little while. There is a lot of. there's a little bit of unrest. But like in all the confusion she probably just slip right into the us so maybe she should do that. His greets him. It's so cute though. That's my only part that i liked. I know i really did like it. But i was also hoping that someone was watching it. I do the same thing. The show our just like holding down the fort starving so now we look at the giant tiger on the bed and he has a gift basket for her for her winning getting to america which she did not win. She didn't win the prize iphone. A five hundred dollar zab. Id card because we can't trust her with more than that. We could never just give her access to our money. She gets five hundred dollars and five hundred dollars only and then the bear its name is garrett but they call gear and he puts it in the closet so he's pretending that he has all these stuffed animals for her to come over. He's like yeah. These were our kids that well. That's not true but okay sure now if we're really being fair about speaking about mental illness. Let's talk about ziauddin rebecca. Oh boy i don't think there's a ton wrong would say add. I you know what since. He's been in america. no. I don't hate him at all. No i'm like. Yeah he seems pretty nice so he's face timing is niece and nephew and rebecca's like excuse me ziad no more talking to anyone. That's not me a bathroom and see your surprise. And she hands him some fake tattoos and then she says this is quote. You're ready. they're not real won't hurt. Don't worry they're not. I'm not going to needle them on. That's how tattoos word. Have you ever gotten a tattoo. Show yes did you know when you when you got these tattoos shoes right so you have. You have two full sleeves or just just one. Okay you have fall asleep did you. Was that with water. You put that on. Yeah in my bathroom and then it just stayed on right forever. And you're like oh my god. I didn't know the real right. Well she She also mommy. Mommy has tattoos. So she wants baby to have time to look. Mommy has them but dc how. She shows her tattoos day but by making a muscle. What does that mean. Well because big strong mommy has such a big strong baby's going to have tattoos. And then she also got babies some plato. But he can't play on the bed because he has to play on the floor on the carpet carpet. Concrete garage looks get real. They just hose it down after he plays so she's like do you want maybe to wear them to meet my family. And he's like no no and she goes all you just want to just just for me. He's like yeah. Sure listen you said. I had a surprise. I thought maybe it was going to be a coach. You gave me a fake tattoo. Also could you possibly set him up for failure a little bit more. You want to stick a sleeve fake tattoos on your boyfriend before going to hang out with your daughter. No they're going to the rushed right and this is sad goes so hungry and then rebecca goes. I can't even say it. She goes this place so beautiful food. Okay so here's what's happening ziad. His english is pretty good. Rebecca's english is getting worse and ziad's is getting better. I thought that this was We have suspected in the past but this proves why he speaks that way. Yes so much beautiful. Because she did it he probably speaks fluent beautiful english and he's talking that way so he could communicate with her because that's how he thinks she talks. That's she's like you think just for me. He's like so beautiful so hungry. We have mac on all right so now she says like oh. You're going to be eating my family. I thought it was gonna be like. I dunno a family. No offense but it was her daughter and her boyfriend who they've already met and she's like oh they're going to have a bunch of them out because of course they're going to have to other people come out because they're looking to to pair him with people his age. So do you have any young people. He can hang out with sue now. They're all looking him when they when they opened the scene. Everyone's just looking at him like it's islands. Everyone just has a straight face but there has age. If we're really being honest. They're his age. So now hannah a friend of their. She's trying to make conversation and they were asking him. Like what is the biggest difference between here and there and she said if you kiss your boyfriend public hokuto jail for six months and i just realized how many men i would like to travel to tunisia. Do you have any ex-boyfriends that you wish you were in tunisia with right now shannon very a so so many so beauty so so mosh rebecca's going to murder hannah. Yeah let's gonna. She's gonna hurt her in the face. Hannah is literally the only person that tree ten like a human being. She's on talking to him. Yeah she's asking. She's not asking him ridiculous questions. That having a legitimate conversation he even makes a joke when she person. Yeah he was. He's killing it and rebecca is just doing. Oh my god she but she's not even like a confident mad. She's like this uncomfortable. Kid like oh like sulking. And it's very like i had such second hand embarrassment. So now her son. Now i've got to tell you. I think i was totally off about her son in law. I thought that he was very aggressive about ziad before he got here. And now i'm seeing like. Oh they treat her like a kid. 'cause she acts like a kid and he's actually just trying to be protective of her. I agree so he asked if They go hunting there and he said it's almost turkey seizing and maybe they can go turkey. Hunting together okay. I think that's adorable. I mean not that. I liked turkey hunting. But they're just trying that's that's the way they bond. What are we going to do about that. Now she's gonna kill hannah and there's a band actually called. Kill hannah really. Yeah there is. there's a band. They used to hang out with them all the time when i was younger and i think that rebecca might have been the lead singer of so they as they had. What do you do. Usually when rebecca is at work. And he's like i watch a movie. You know play. Xbox he's been there for like four days and that's all. He has is an xbox and xbox a mattress so hannah is like she also rebecca things that while she's at work ziad is going to go to the storage space by himself. Can't drive and he's gonna move all the furniture by himself on his back by foot by. I hope the search space. Like i cannot fits couch shopping carts so hannah's like actually my family has a lot of trucks. A lot of flack beds first of all. Is your family in the trucking business or did you guys just have a lot of cars. I couldn't tell this was obviously so staged by the produce producers so. She's like rebecca confronts him in front of the whole table. And as i do you hear what she's saying. She's saying that she'll help you move are you gonna. You're gonna let a girl. A woman move your. I don't think she was asking to help him move the furniture in no. I can't do you need to borrow one of the cars car if you load it exactly and it doesn't it's just this whole scene blows my mind because also like i know that it's supposed to be while she's at work like an intimate busyness. You're in america. You don't let women in the house when i'm and he's like why i don't know what's happening. I really don't know what's happening. He's like. I speak better english the new rebecca and i still don't know what's happening now when she asks him i he's like yes so then she says it again he's like no i don't even know and rebecca's like this place so beautiful food so they all get up and leave without finishing their meals and like i don't know what i did. I think i did a bad thing. But i don't know what the bad thing was. She also thanked uses his culture however she wants to because when she's yelling at him. She's like You know what she's talking to the camera. She says i o in his culture. They don't have single women and men and then at the end she was like. Oh american women are different than how you're using your culture it just using it however she can. She's a crazy person. Like for real. And i gotta tell you i have so much more to say about her and i think we're probably going to talk about some of this on our stereo. A trash talk after. Show every single wednesday at seven pm eastern standard time. The greatest thing about stereo is that you should listen live because you could interact with us but if you don't you can listen. Afterwards the link is going to be right in the show notes. But if you don't see that it's stereo dot com slash trixie touzani. So what you're going to do. Is you download the app. You're going to follow me and you're going to see all of our trash talk after shows for every wednesday at seven pm and you're going to be able to interact with us all the way. It is so much fun. We've been really just having a blast. We really have. We have brand new content going live on the stereo up every wednesday at seven pm and remember you will be able to talk with us directly on stereo because you ever realize like when you wrap up a podcast shannon. You have a podcast though. When you wrap up you forget to something super important all the time. Yeah so this is what our after show is going to be like. Our listeners can get the full story here everything we missed it also just things for us to talk about an ask us specific questions. It's going to be so amazing shannon. Where could everyone find you. I know that you talked about your podcasts. A little bit. Can you talk about where they could find your show your social media and everything else you have going on sure So you can follow me on instagram. Shannon lee six nine eight to you can listen to my podcast. A thing is dang wherever you listen to podcasts. On itunes youtube spotify or go to gas digital network dot com. And you can listen to it there. That's about it awesome. You guys could follow this show. At ninety day. Podcast on instagram and twitter. You could follow him. Your host at trixie to zd on instagram twitter end stereo and as always we have merged for sale. Join our patriot. If you want more bonus content. We're going to be covering bears at all. Oh my god that's patriot dot com slash. 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"Tracy and noah you elo yon say trash draw hello and welcome to ninety day. Fiance trash talk this episode one hundred eight. I'm your host comedian. Tracy cornell joined by my lovely guest co host shannon lee chasing hi shannon. I am so excited for you to be here today because we actually got rid of noel. Finally our plan has worked. We got rid of noel. I suggested that she go on vacation. And then i just didn't allow her to come back. She fell for it. Yes she i mean. Who's the idiot i was like. Hey no while. Why don't you go on vacation for valentine's day and she was like where should i go and i was like. I don't know maybe the woods and that's it so no all is now in the wood and here we are and shannon is my new co hosts for the rest of my life so come shannon or the rest of today at least at. I'll take it okay. Whatever i mean listen is what it is. I'm so happy that you're here. I if you guys don't know who shannon is you should shannon's been on the show before. She's a very good friend of the show and shannon has another podcasts as well shannon tell us about your other podcast. Sure it's called. The thing is ding. We talk about bad dates fighting and ghosts and we have comedians reality. Tv stars musicians porn stars. Come on and talk about their experiences with the paranormal with mandates or bad sex. And i'm getting into street fights. Oh okay have you ever had someone that's gotten into a relationship with a ghost and then fought them no on that. That's going to be when i stopped the show when that story comes on that i'm done. Thank you're searching for. Yeah but i have had two stories like run into each other but not never all three. Oh also who. Who's been like a few year favorite guests on the show. Besides me in noel. Of course may god rest her soul. I've had the best ghost stories are like my favorite episodes. So i'm zach amigo. Hosaka me goes. Zaki goes hilarious. Oh my god. His story was like be made into a movie. It was terrifying zack. Has an actual podcast about horror movies. And i'm wondering if he channel that i think he's like i think this was a dream. It might have been a movie. I'm not sure if this was real and also comedian. Mike cannon the virus by podcast. His story will gave me goosebumps and almost made me cry. It was like djing go straight. Yep there's there's the great ones there's a lot of fun. Oh my guy so guys make sure you check out china's podcast. Everything will be in the show notes so make sure you go down there. We're here to talk about season. Eight episode ten of ninety day. Fiance's before we get into that. I just want to introduce everyone that hasn't been already introduced to this app. Stereo that we have been using to go live every single wednesday night. We have a show on stereo called the trash talk after show. And it's no ellen. I every single wednesday night at seven pm eastern standard time. And it's amazing because what it is is like everything that we forget to say on the podcast or and we also interact with the listeners on this show and it's amazing so make sure you go to stereo dot com slash trixie to zini again. It's going to be in the show notes. So guys click the link. Make sure you sign up for stereo. You can listen. Live and ask questions or you can listen afterwards because all the recordings are there in the stereo out. That seems like so much fun. Because i know when i listened to this show i often speak out loud in to you and wealth so i feel like he gives listeners. A chance to do that for real. That's exactly what it is you can say. How many times like. I do it all the time on podcast. I'm like no wait or like they're saying this is my biggest thing when people are saying things and it's wrong and they're or they can't think of the name of something and i'm like hello. Can you hear me now. we can hear you. And that's that's what. Sarah is all about so we're going to do that so now. Let's go into this episode season. Eight episode ten of ninety fiancee. We're going to start off with just the most beautiful well-matched romantic couple mike. And natalie. this is real love guys. Wow so she has learned the word of the day now. I don't know if she had worked for the day toilet paper as what i thought. Yeah or was teaching her the word of the day is she picking a word that she wants to know. How do we pick the word of the day. I was thinking that maybe she came across this word on television or something and kept throwing it at him show now. This is his way of being like. Why don't you tell everyone. What your word of the day because you keep saying over and over again you think. It's just some sarcasm. His yes so. The word of the day for her is controversial. Right this yeah. I can't really read my own handwriting. Type i type out. I should i really should but i gotta tell you. I think that the pain and the agony of writing longhand notes is really the punishment for me to from picking this career fair. Yeah so they go out to eat and heat is talking to her with an accent. Am i wrong on this. I didn't pick up on on that with them. This is a big thing on this show. It's i mean listen. It's a big thing in life. We've talked about this. So many times people speak to people with an accent With their own version of an accent yell they speak very slowly and they speak with sometimes. It's not even the same kind of acts. Like i don't even think this was kind of russian accent now. I missed it. I do have this in my notes for another couple right. Yeah yeah. I missed it for them. It happens a lot. And i gotta tell you. There's something that i've been thinking about a lot on. This is that. I am just like intrigued by accents. I really am dying. I just feel like accents are so cool making me how i just feel like. They all just the fact of have like we have accents. But we don't even know it. Yeah i mean. I get made fun of for my accent. Pretty often constantly. People think that i am like from. I was born in in the sewer in brooklyn and i feel like our accents. Aren't that strong. Compared to other new yorkers yeah not at all but it's just. It's so. I don't know like i think that obviously people mock people with accents and they use an accent to mock people. But i'm more intrigued than like. How did you come to pronounce that word like that like what happens. What is so different. I don't know. I need to take a class about this. This this is my new obsession. So there's forty five days left and she doesn't have address and he's like oh i think that's fine. It's 'cause be no wedding right so don't even get address because we're just going. I'm gonna kick you out eventually so you know it feels. It's felt like with this couple this whole season that he decided he doesn't want to do the show anymore. And hold the producers that in the producer like please just pretend and then he and natalie had a conversation he is like all right. We're going to do a show one more season and we're just gonna pretend that she says okay that's fine. He's forgets yet. No i think she forgets because he's just like let's just hang out and drink and have a good time and she is like what about the weather right and he's like wink wink. Natalie i told you just getting the cash right exactly. And she's like mike. I'm not authorized to be paid by the show and he's like what i can't hear you. Your accent is is very strong right now. And i don't understand what you're saying. So why don't you shut up and just do the show with me. Is that what you think is happening exactly. So they have lots of work on and she wants to go to therapy and he goes no. Oh okay cool. Simple answer he kinda like poop. Who's it he does. I think his answer is like it's only a little bit of like the macho attitude of not wanting to show feelings been getting deep into emotions but it's mostly because he just doesn't care he just wants forty five days to finish and for her to go home. I know and he's like well. I don't want to spend a bunch of money on okay. Saving a lot of money on heat. She's like Mike byrne styrofoam the other day in the fireplace. And i got some kind of terrible poisoning while you're at work and actually blacked out for three to four hours. Could we spend a little bit of money on therapy. And he's like no. That's a waste of money just to keep those styrofoam very controversial. Because she's like my lungs. When i breathe out flames come out. He's like yeah. That's america so so he just he keeps talking in circles. He's not making any kind of sense. So it's forty four days to the wedding and they're cooking together very angry. They are not happy about the situation. She is cutting a potato. He doesn't want her to cut the potato. They had already cut a potato are. They splitting up potato. I feel like they should never eat together. This is where rights happened. They shouldn't eat in the same room. Bay shouldn't but at the same time she makes shore that he allowed to meet so they have to shift to compromise. Somehow i would like to speak on behalf of all vegans for a moment or oh my god. That's range shannon. you're a vegan. Please give us a little bit of insight. Do you agree with natalie or not. I do not. I feel like i often don't even like to admit that i'm a vegan because or vegetarian. I don't know what she has Like natalie that give us a bad name for She's constantly shaming him. She's every time he goes put something in his mouth. She's like don't eat that. That's the worst way to make somebody do. What you want to do is constantly shamed them for what they're they're doing right he's like don't drink. Don't eat meat. And it makes them angry to where he does it just to spite her right but also Why are you a vegan shannon like what is. What's the behind your your choice. So i originally gave it a shot. Because i wanted to lose weight and be healthier and I had never done it before. I was on i was in the mindset of meat is good and i don't feel like it's a good thing to give it up and then i was reading a bunch of books and i was like let me give it a shot and a a a few weeks in started to feel better. I started to lose a little bit of way. Didn't i miss cheese. I'm going to be honest. But i didn't. I don't miss meat very much. And now it's been a little about almost a year and a half. Wow that i've been. And i mean i didn't do it for animal rights purposes attempt to feel better exactly. Yeah and i don't think everybody should be. I feel like do whatever the hell you wanna do. But it just it works for me. Look at that like just just worrying about yourself. is that what. You're doing that so crazy now. I cannot tell what her reasoning it so we do see that she does eat fish. So i'm assuming that she some kind of pesca -tarian which is like. I said your choice and like you said your choice also. It is odd that the one animal. She chooses to eat fish yet. She's so protective of them with the sound of the fireworks right. So here's the thing you can't scare them but you can kill them exactly yes. Sneak up behind them and kill them. Just make sure they're sleeping. Yeah before you murder them. You don't want to spook them up. Is everyone knows that everyone knows. You don't scare a fish. That's a ancient proverb what happens. It's like seven years bad luck when you take a mirror. Ten years in the would if you scare a fish with the firework that's the thing so the thing is like i don't know is she's doing this to maybe just control them but also to fasching him. Yes there's a ton of fat shaming going on. Yeah she definitely i mean. I don't want to jump ahead. But i usually try not to watch the coming attractions but yeah i'm all. She has mentioned it before too where she calls him. Low class like. She thinks that he is winning the lottery by having by being graced by her presence and that she is not allowed to treat him however she wants that attitude so now she says something worse so she's cutting the extra potato and she says this is a quote and thank god. Noel is no longer co host on the show ever again because this is the quote. I get chills. Just thinking about how she would react to this. She says i hate butter so i hope she's not even listening right now because if she's listening she's not going to make it through. He's like you know. I want you to be fun. I want you to chill out. And then he goes to the fridge to get a beer and this is his quote. Oh no there's only one left. I feel like she doesn't like the drinking. Which is it's fine but also like you got him like that uh-huh you really can't change people yet. Also my favorite quote of her in this scene is her saying. I'm pretty fun. When i wanna be fun. So basically she just doesn't ever want to be the mine never ever wants to. But i do think that he knows that she hates the drinking so he goes hard on it exactly. Yeah yeah make the announcement. He has to smack his lips when he drinks. He has to go after every sip. It's so much sure it is a that is something that he does. It annoys me when they went into that little shop and he wanted to buy the decanters or whatever. Yeah he but it's also like he's being she is shoving his face so much as his only way of kind of pushing back. I think i know but like maybe then. Just don't be with her or have an actual conversation with her and be like. Hey natalie. here's the deal. I'm going to drink and if you keep making comments you can go in the pond with the fish. And i'm gonna play. I'm going to start shooting off tons of fireworks. I'm gonna play the scaring game. He says no again about that. She's like hey just checking in to see where you are about the therapy. And he's like. Oh no no. That's what we're gonna do. You're gonna know lay whenever she reminded us like. I dunno i have megaphones. Esto certain sounds trigger me right when she says michael in constantly to get his attention but he's the other room. I have the same visceral reaction. To the sound of somebody chewing. He's just in the next name in the next room. There's nobody else in the house the other room known. I don't think there is another room. I think that the closet smells bad because that's where they cook cabbage so like i don't think i don't see room per se. I see different angles of the same room. That's fair half partitions. But yet it's kind of looking open concept modular home. It's really just a beautiful thing. So he says no again about the therapy but then he goes to jane for his haircut and he sits down in the chair and he looks right in the face and goes do my hair like my mom. I want bangs like trash and she was like michael finally. Finally you're coming to and understanding. So they talk about natalie a little bit and she says this is a quote. What are you guys disagreeing on. And then he looks her right in the east and goes mostly buttering aliens. And i couldn't believe like most people butter aliens also her engagement ring and she's like oh cool when i go on a date just getting if i'm getting if you are. Do you think that she is legitimately. Because she does. Get a little flirty. Do you think it's legitimate or do you think this is a production planted. No i think it's legitimate. I think that's why they chose her because she's probably like beyond tv with my tricia son miche with the bangs. Oh my god. Maybe he'll let me do the bangs on him. There are much better couple. They will love eating and drinking together. This is so true though. He needs to find butter lover. Likes the would but now they talk about like her not having a ring. Yeah so the thing is is that she was i listen. I don't like in this episode kind of almost saw her side of things for a little bit and i was like you know. I guess i've been in relationships before where you can paint me as the villain when you don't really know what goes on besides that. So yes she gave him the ring back but like what really happened. He was making her feel so bad that she didn't know what else to do to kind of get his attention. Yeah maybe refresh my memory. But from what i remember of that whole thing was when they were in russia the ukraine that it's not see. Here's the thing it's not not a different place. Okay like it kinda used to be part of got it. Yeah natalie's home very natalie in natalie or natasha's home question that they. They had the interview where she refused to say that she loved michael. Okay so that was on the towel okay. So that wasn't the catalyst to their whole fight. No i don't think it was afterwards. Or maybe she said it twice. She might said it twice. Because i remember she did say on the tele but she might have said it in the confessional as well okay. Yeah because i have a hard time remembering like what. Their big problem was when he left. The big album was that she wanted a baby. Okay right now and he was like yeah. You don't even live like we're not even approved for the and she's like it's fine. Just put a baby me right now. I will cook it here. I will cook it here and then i will burn it in the closet. And he's like you haven't seen my my my set up yet so i think maybe you should. You should put the brakes on the baby and come over. I and see if you like it here right. I remember that. Was i think a lot of it so she so she's gene is cutting hair and she's talking while she's buzzing his hair but the greatest thing about this audio is that you can't hear her she's just buzzing took the television. The buzzer very loud. So i don't know if maybe they should have recorded. we're podcasters. Maybe they should have recorded the buzzers track separately. I've been lowered it just to give the buzzing a fact or made her pretend to buzz and then put a little buzzing sound effect in at a very low volume. You should write a letter okay. I'm gonna see what i could do. so now. He winds up going to couples therapy with her and they need doug and mike is like listen. I'm expecting a call from one thousand nine hundred seven. So i'm gonna keep my blue tooth year piece in because i also am a taxi driver on the side. I need to make sure that. I have this bluetooth in my ear during this entire therapy session. I feel like this was an easy way for him to instead of like just constantly having has is rolling right through the whole session. He's able to just signify how much he does not give a crap with think that he was listening to ninety day. Fiance's ashok maybe. Hi mike mike. If you're in couples therapy right now within the natalia slash natasha we we don't we used to be on your side not so much anymore but we do. I mean i say okay to butter. A shannon is like earth balance so he has this thing this thing in his ear that i cannot believe and doug is like guys. What do you think that the biggest problem is and natalia. I like to call him to tell you now. By the way talia is like it's very hard to communicate with him because he's always on the phone with someone with a bluetooth is year and i was like. Do you think that maybe the bluetooth is part of the problem. He's like what blue what bluetooth. This is part of my ear now. I think that they could not have picked a worse therapist for to sit with them. I think he was terrible in my personal. Tell me why what stuck out to me i. This is just a stupid thing but it annoyed me. I felt i'm on mike side. I felt his annoyance the entire session. But when when they walk in the therapist says this is the spot. Pick your favorite seat. There's just a couch there. There's just a couch and how do you know maybe there's something that you can see. Maybe there was a tiny hammock hanging from the ceiling. Maybe there was a swing. Maybe there was some pillows on the floor that they can lay down when you were in When you were in school guidance counselor's office and they're like if you want to sit on the floor there and just lay down. And i'd always be like yeah. Of course. I want to just lay down. Can you also not talk to me. great. I'm sorry i didn't realize you didn't receive a whole room. You just saw the one couch area. I feel like a lot of therapists do that though. Pick your favorite seattle. they do. I'm telling you like every therapist office. That i've been inside of because now everything's virtual It's so crazy because they do say like sit wherever you're comfortable. And they usually have two options. One of them is more of a city thing and one of them were as a lay down kind of option. I always pick the city but also sometimes like i've been to their office where they go hard lake chair and then they have a couch. I'm not gonna lay on anything. But i will sit on the couch before. I'm going to sit on the chair. That's fair. yeah so we don't know. I think that you need to hold your judgment on that. What else was it about. Doug so i feel like mike could be one over But whenever mike now. I feel weird calling him. Mike feel like you need the same michael. But whenever the 'sorry michael anti i'm going to change my notes for natasha. It's whatever you feel comfortable calling her whenever he. I feel like the key things that he said. The therapist just glossed over For example when he said. I don't think we're in love with each other anymore the therapists and this is obviously. This could be heavy editing yet editing. Because i don't okay so she did say that she wants to express to him that it was hard for her to leave her country. And this is a quote. Now i live in the would says my favorite so he ignores her emotions right and he claims that he tried to make her feel comfortable. Now listen again. Never on her side before. But now i kind of am because okay shannon you have your boyfriend coming from scotland. He's a great so he's coming to your house and he's gonna come live with you. Are you doing anything to prepare for his arrival. Yes yes i do agree with you here especially during. I would have in the fridge. Things that he likes to eat. Like our cater. The place as much as i could his preferences i understand what spot to sit in. He wouldn't be would put the hammock up. You put a little bean bag chair on the floor. I understand see. I would even see. I don't know if this is a woman thing though like i might say like. Oh you like lasagna. And i would have made a lasagna. Kept it in the fridge for some grab and go meals because remember. He's going to be in the house and you're going to be off at work right so now instead of him having to cook every meal just like the first few days maybe he could just unwind. Heat up some liaison. You know. that's fair. Yeah and i do think this may be a woman thing. Because i don't think there has been a single man on this show. That has ever done anything you. And what was his name. Eric in something is the guy can't remember. Now i know all lead lead. Yes yes yes yes. We'll blow up the couch. That was that was effort. You right i'm sorry. And he also made the boxspring so they can lay down on it so he did do a lot of the. I don't know what it is. It's like why wouldn't you want these people to be happy like comfortable in your home. That is now going to be their home. And i do think that he did not really prepare now when he said that they aren't in love i think he was paying her back for what she did at the tell all and how what we were just talking about how she said in the confessional that they are not in love anymore or that. She doesn't love him. Yeah don't agree. I feel like. I feel like after him being angry about that. Whole situation that that it's now actually worn off for him because even when she was first coming back here right and like her visa was approved. He was kind of like all right. I mean i guess. I guess we have to do it now. Be sure where proves try. But i don't think that those feelings have ever actually his heart wasn't in it. Yeah and i think this is him actually finally admitting that and from what at least is shown to us by the editing of this. It appears that the the therapists never asked him to clarify. Never made sure. Natalie hurt well. He definitely didn't clarify. Because i will tell you this but again. I think this is the editing he was like. What do you want to hear from her. And then i didn't understand anything that he said. I played it back ten times. And i was like. I think this is bad editing. Because i'm not sure where this conversation is fitting in. It's true also One other thing that natalie said when she said that He wasn't carrying about her emotions are trying to understand how she feels but there were times that we saw at least where he said. Tell me what your when. She had the tantrum outside in the woods and she walked away and he said. Tell me what you're feeling like. Use your words. Like i don't i don't know so. He has attempted to talk to her and ask her what feeling but she is just shuts down right. She was like. I'm gonna kiss this tree on the so. Just leave me alone now. He goes outside from the therapist office and the producer astor. Ideally asked them. Ideally what would he like and he says in an ideal world. He wants to get married and have kids. But maybe not with natalie. I think they meant in an ideal world. What would happen with natalie. I don't know. I don't know they did leave. It pretty open ended right. But yeah i i think that's just more to. He's he's checked out but there was a little bit of emotion that came over him at the end of this was maj way he was annoyed. He's like are you guys gonna pay me or no. I take this phone call already. He's like i have had someone on hold for forty five minutes so please let me get back to my phone call. Thank you so much. Now we talked about how natalie says again quote. I hate butter and that is just the wrong way of thinking because there really aren't any quote unquote bad foods. That's that's the whole thing and that's what we really have to think about when we think about the kind of way that we eat because when you think about everything you've ever learned about getting healthy. There's a lot of contradictory information out there and things like that old fashioned food pyramid aren't much help but you understand what i'm saying right a.k.a. Vegan better all right and eating better to feel better understanding cravings and knowing how to shop and knowing that no food is quote unquote bad is very very important and neum will help you make better choices. Because it's based in psychology and it teaches. You y you make the choices that you do. And it gives you the tools to replace your habits with healthier once. They use cognitive behavioral approach. And it means that you're not just losing weight. You're building the habits that you need to keep it off because you're human and neum is forgiving and if you go off track you'll be back on tomorrow. 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I mean like a into this scene. At first i was thinking well i yar seems like she's not on point she only has one layer slayer of makeup on like probably tired and she starts off kind of a little crappy. I never know if. I can curse in the show or not absolutely correct. Okay so your mom listens. I don't wanna be offensive curse. I just don't ken okay. So i don't care if she i don't care if Yes she hates you. That is what it is. It's not gonna buy paper towels from cosco. She's still going to them for me. You know what i'm saying. I got it. So he started typing. Yara didn't have great bedside manner while speaking to hove as father because she was. I think she was tired. I think she was angry. I think she doesn't feel good. And it's like these people are there to judge her. Yeah because he immediately like bit right back like his bedside manner was even worse than hers. Was there to her. He hadn't met her before he was at work when she arrived. He makes it like. She's a package right when ups dropped her off. I was at work so we left her by the back door and that is how they treat her. They don't treat her like a human being ope. she is an import. They imported her his mom. Gwen is having fifty to sixty people at this quote unquote small party. So when is looking at her and lying to her fees. And while gwen is lying hove v is of course he's drinking and she's like they're like how do you like new orleans. She's like oh. I don't like it at all. I get very scared to walk around the other. Okay what's his name monte. I think i called marty. His name is monty down he said. Oh yeah it's very dangerous for a woman that dresses like you. I've seen that The way that you dress. I've seen pictures of you. So he's basically implying that might be mistaken for a hooker. This makes me so angry. This first of all and she i mean. She backs herself up. Yes up well. But it's like when when i'm on vacation which isn't often but i would never wear the outfits that i wear on vacation. Okay anywhere else. so what. you're saying shannon. I'm just trying to understand that. So when you were a bikini at the beach when you're In puerto rico okay. You don't wear that on the subway in new york city doesn't that's just i'm just trying to figure this out. So you've saying you're saying that you have dressed in maybe like a sexy way right at an event that it's appropriate for and then not warranted at four. Am walking in a dark alleyway in naxi. It's so weird. Because i think that whatever you put on social media is just how you always are. Also i am on her. I don't love new orleans. I era. I've only been there one time. Maybe a younger people place okay. But it's also like. I don't know if she understood what she was coming into. Because i think that. Listen i i like new orleans. I don't wanna live there but a lot of people feel it about new york city. That's you know. And it's also you know different neighborhoods different areas. So she just that's not her thing and remember something jovi really embraces the culture of drinking they're short and the partying and they have mentioned strippers four hundred times in just this one scene so he is living when they say like people say. I don't like new york city a lot of times. What they mean is i don't like midtown manhattan But when you really come down to it. No one really is spending their day to day life in midtown manhattan in times square standing under a billboard right. That's fair jovi is actually. He's like a permanent tourist in his own city. He's going to am store every day. That's the equivalent of going to the eminem store to do his grocery shopping. He's going to bourbon street every night. He's spending his evenings at strip clubs. Which again it's it's fine like i'm not shaming anyone but at the same time like i don't think that you know the lifestyle that he is telling you he's going to give her is going to happen if he still partaking. In that kind of behavior i agree. It's also i mean. I guess like the overall thing though is he has no business getting in a serious relationship. Moving somebody here to this country from a different country when he he wants to be a party boy which is fine then yeah exactly you. We're not shaming shaming him but quote unquote. We're not shaming him. But at the same time it's like don't drag someone into that. It's not like she's a party girl you know i will say that looks are deceiving. When she got off that plane i was like. Oh this girl is really going to be a handful and then you know she was like demanding things in the apartment and it's like when you really think about it. It's like oh she wanted a nice rug. That's it one. She wanted her prague. That's all she really wanted. Remarkably white rug. I would love one. She was she liked kerr. I really do like her now. The other thing is that his family is really trying to push the narrative that almost like she's a mail order bride from the ukraine. Right and i love a obviously could have been done in a better way but when they said her body who lives in new everybody to america every body from the ukraine wants to come to america every single by and she says she comes back. She can never my dream. She's like look around. Look at this guy. This was my dream a nightmare. This swamp yeah. That was major. So she's she's like okay fine. You wanna see that all ukrainians wanna come to america. She's like that's like saying all americans are stupid. Because that's what people in the ukraine say about american vern. I mean it was the perfect response much fat lazy and stupid. Just you just said that. She's like no. I know i mean. I think that we're proving her quite right with her current relationship so she would like to move to budapest eventually. And i like how she comes out first meeting with her father and she's like. Oh yeah you're going to like kind of bullying me. I'm going to tell you the things that are going to make your head spin also. They're they're accusing her. Of just wanting having this quote unquote american dream and just wanting me to america. She immediately says. I don't wanna live in this country and now they're switching over to. She wants to take our son away so like which is you wanna hate her. For any reason they're so afraid to lose him and his mom says this is a court. I don't want him moving to europe they okay. So here's the other thing right. They seem very uncultured and like the small town like this by you mentality and yet if his dad has the same job that he has his dad has been traveling the world for a very long time so i don't know why they seem so oblivious to other cultures you know what though when when he is travelling he may be just traveling with his group of workers and not really experiencing those cultures may cause his mom was like europe. Pretty general also they he saying to To them that they have to decide soon where they wanna live because after they get married. It's gonna be too late. Why why after you get married you just have to stay in one place forever while they're saying that after they get married. It's not as easy to get to divorce her. She wants to move basically what they're saying. So now gwen is listen. We need to make your comfortable in the us. Because she can't take my little baby boy away and he's drinking. I know that it's weird but Jovis drinking and yarra wants to nap because she is pregnant and no one knows and so him and his dad go to a crawfish boil with his friends from the bio. And they're on their way there. Obviously gwen is driving them because they are alcoholics. At least they're being responsible. They're very responsible. Gwen will be there uber. Driver for the day and drops them off and the dad in the car is like did we lock up everything in the house. Do you think it's safe to have left her by herself. It's you know. I am yes and i am on board with Jabbing like jokes are may be slightly offensive. I would say working guest joan that work. I am on board with that kind of humor. Sure however if you are trying to convince your parents that you are with this woman for love and that she is with you for love. Maybe don't always jump in on the jokes about your future wife trying to scam you on rob your family right. Yeah just like maybe wait until they get a little bit more acquainted till they're married and then you can tell your parents that she's a hooker. You just wait though. Just give it a second. So they don't all of his friends don't think the marriage will last like two months two weeks blah blah blah and. Then one of his friends says how many. How long do you have to be married for her to be able to stay here and he says three years and they're like all right. Well that's how long you're going to be married. they're also. I can't wait until she sees this footage. Oh my god see honestly. I don't think she really cares. Like she didn't care because she doesn't care what sarah said either. Okay she's like these people. I mean nothing. I don't even care. But they do his friend frankie incline heap talking about how. He loves strip clubs. Yeah this is not just one time combo i mean. She is so hot though really is she's beautiful. She's got a banging body so it's like if you're going to. She's funny yes so if you're gonna get someone close to the appearance of a stripper you got it short right. It's like are you looking for a hotter girl. Not i mean. She's pretty hot agreed. Yeah yeah i. I do agree with that so now. She's getting ready for the party and she's in her dress and he's like. How much did that cost. And she's like oh a few thousand dollars she's just trying to shut him up and then as she's getting just sprinkle ing powder on his head. I don't. I was hoping i thought that i was in coming here to show. And i was gonna make fun of that and you're gonna make me feel stupid by. I was hoping same. I thought you were going to make me feel stupid. I do maybe it was like a volume izing powder. Have you ever used that. Like on your roots. Where a little texture. Yeah it's like a little powder that you could sprinkle and it gives you texture so you get a little volume. So i've used like like a dry like volume is dry shampoo right just kind of like a power power but in spray form so there is some sort of liquid component to it but he he didn't just sprinkle a little bit on like you kept the whole bottle. Assault was in his scalp. Somebody both beam was like putting fish food bank. Exactly he didn't stop. It's not like he gave it a little sprinkle and then we removed onto the next product. Like there was a lot of powder in his head he has and then he says she says your hair looks like shit. He's like. I know i was like i wonder why. Because you're putting you just put old bay seasoning all over your head. He's like well. I just came from the crawfish boil. So was that not a good thing to put in my now she He didn't bring her any food crawfish. She's pregnant. She feels nauseous right so she has morning sickness. And you know. He brought her leftover crawfish from crawfish. Boil that happened hours before. Can i just throw in really quickly. When they referred to the crawfish as red mud bugs. Yes is the most disgusting thing i've ever heard. Imagine life no. Yeah that is what they're called so gross. It makes me want to eat them so much less than i already don't eat them but also he's like he's like what are you mad at me for. I put in absolutely the least amount of effort possible to bring you something. He's like after everybody and touched all the food. I brought you cold crawfish. That had been laying out for a long time. And i know that you're pregnant and you don't like seafood but i made a made you a little doggy bag of my bugs. He like scraped it off the table hands for some of them are on the floor. But you just you just really boil them. Well you're not going to eat. Charlotte sign sanitize them. So she's like. I feel sick. I feel like i'm gonna throw up. And now i feel like i'm gonna throw a not even because i'm pregnant because i'm looking at. You bringing me crawfish. Thank you so much so she wants to tell his family that she's pregnant and he's like oh don't tell them because we're not even going to be able to see the doctor. Oh she says we're not going to be able to see the doctor for three months and he says but we can't tell them until we see the doctor she's like i mean i'm pregnant. I think he's hoping for the pregnancy to go away. Yes that he's like but remember what happened last time. We can cross our fingers right now. It's it's i do agree with you on that. I also understand that. People don't announce their pregnancy for a while because of the risk of miscarriage and she does have a history of that. So it's like maybe a little bit scary for him. But i don't think that's where he's coming from absolutely not giving too much credit It's almost like hey you know if if you tell them you're pregnant again like me. They're going to think. Maybe i drink too much. So he's already hung over clash. Drunk was way before before they even leave for the party. And he's like aggravated. Here's like can we get to this party already. I think it's because his beer was getting low. Yeah for sure because when you stop drinking you get hung over. So i'm sorry. But the weiming the one he had in his hand literally like he's like i only have twelve car beers and it's a three minute drive. How are we going to get to the party. So she's annoyed at him and he doesn't know why she's mad at all. She's taking selfies of herself. And he's like you only care about yourself. She's like she's like you only care about your beer. And he's drinking in the car on the way now but he hasn't been drinking he okay. She called hollick and he says and this is a quote now ready. He said i only had five beers. I'm not drinking. And i haven't been drinking just warming up baby so you know i'm just trying to so you've only had five beers. Also she says that's a lie. She said that you said that three years ago so he's ahead at least beers and then he says he admits that he's had at least five but also that he's not drinking and he's not drunk just because you are not drunk off eight beers you know what that means that means. You have a drinking problem. That is not a bragging rate. He's like look i. I drink the whole bottle of cuervo. Adam fine yet. Maybe it'll tell people that used to actually data guy that when we would head out like go party or go to a bar or something he would fill a solo cup with a drink. Four the drive as he was driving. You know what that's called. An alcoholic called alcoa and it's called the cheap alcoholic so i don't know why things didn't work out with you guys. I'm so sorry. Shannon i don. That's sensitive. He adds that she's stupid. So that's the icing on the cake. It's really great so to rican hazel. Let's talk about them. It's april twenty twenty. She's never driven a car so he lets her drive the lawnmower for practice. This is joe great right. I don't know. I would be scared to even drive alone or not and you can do it. I'm gonna send you over to virginia beach and we're going to get you some more driving lessons. Maybe you could be the third who knows forty one days left and she's on the elliptical their quit working out as a family. Everyone's on lockdown and now. She scared because she heard from the grapevine that her son. Harry has a fever. So she's trying. She's she's crying shannon. She heard now from harry. Step mom that he has a fever. That was a while ago rumor. Has it rumor that she heard she read in the paper. That harry might have a fever. So now she's crying and tariq feel super guilty and she said the last time that she called his step mom she didn't call she didn't answer so now i'm assuming days later. She calls her back so she calls again. And ruby picks up and she. This is now this is why. Don't the kennedy fever. She says to ruby. Does harry still have a headache. And she says no and that was it. That was it. It was like god cold cured. She also translates that into you. She says she's feeling he's feeling way. Better thank you for asking. She's just like no so now. Harry comes on. He seems better right or he seems probably the exactly how he will anymore. Which is fine and and he's talking to wreak in his language and to rico's use your english. I don't like to wreak i'm gonna tell there's so many reasons why i don't like to make if you guys listen to last week's podcast. We covered bears all recovered episodes one and two and we saw tariq wrap so. That's the number one reason. I don't like him. I skipped it. Because i didn't want it. Felt about him. Honestly don't watch it if you want to listen to the episode. That's fine but don't watch the at all it was. It was uncomfortable. It was upsetting and just not not because it was sad just because it was upsetting terrible now i feel like tariq things he's the knight in shining armor zal from poverty. He i'll wait for you to the next part before i give you all like he's like oh i don't know she's gonna come here to my big american house and drive my big american lawnmower. I have two to three vehicles. i don't even know. She's seen a wheel before they all do this. Poll yeah. let's look carini poop water just liking your country like a trailer. Isn't that all you ever dreamed up. Look we could put the dogs in cages so much nicer than your house just roam free. Oh my god so now he also is okay. So harry is recovering from covid. Apparently from folded fake ovid. He's like you need to drink orange juice every day. He's like you need to overload your body with sugar as much sugar as you can. That's very good for you. And he's like we don't have money for orange juice so he says instead of sending twenty bucks over there so you can have orange juice forever. No no now. This kid's gotta do jumping jacks in the house. Because he can't play a side. Why did he. I am scared. He has custody of a child. Custody of a child with special needs terrifying. So now his daughter ari goes over. And she's gonna talk to harry on this video call and he points to harry and goes he's going to be your brother and she looks to tariq and she walks away and i gotta tell you that is the correct reaction for her three response. Yeah i'm like. Yeah i would too because it's just like why are you trying to force this. This is strange. So now hazel tells harry. It's going to take a very very long time to get him here. And this is a quote because there is a corona fan in. Was this really the plan. We plan to take harry over. So what you're gonna do is you're going to have. Harry live his whole life basically with his father and stepmother basically his mom. Because that's right that's how it works. And then you're going to rip him away and he could basically never see them again right but i mean like says she already didn't have custody in one couldn't afford it here yes alike not only like changes surroundings. As far as the people he surrounded by but different country language right everything and also. It's just heartbreaking. That she says to him. It's gonna be like forever. She's like listen. Don't get your hopes up on this. There is one corona here and honestly if you had orange juice have been making mimosas but instead there is a corona at the current is going to be doing jumping. Jacks and so just doing your jumping jacks also tariq teaches them how to do a jumping jack. They don't have jumping jackson the phillipi. He's like anyone in the philippines. Have you ever moved your body now. Okay let me teach you this. American jumping jack secure. All this is a very good remedy if you have a fever if you fever and a headache what you need to do immediately as jumping jacks so. Just keep that in mind if you feel good so just some jumping jacks art. We're gonna move on to stephanie and ryan. She's teaching them. How to hula-hoop now. They're having a ton of fun her voice. It's very old much older than she even is when i hear her voice. If you close your eyes. When she's speaking i think eighty five to ninety five. I agree. I sounds very very old. My may i send here. Is i hate everything. Yes i do not like either of them no he. Also i feel bad for him. Because i feel like he has not done a ton of research on michigan because he says that he wants to explore michigan with her. Now no offense to michigan but he lives in belize understand about people from tropical places. While i understand that there's poverty. So that that i understand But exploring michigan is going to be more underwhelming than you know is probably equal amounts of poverty. Yeah it's i mean. It's not the great bolt. She also lives a lavish lifestyle. So it's going. It's not going to be his experience in michigan. So his mom she's like is your mom. Happy that we're together and we're in love. And she goes. He goes yes. She's so happy that it's going to be a good experience for me and that you're going to help me get a job. She's like yeah but she happy that we're in love and he's like yeah. That's what i just said that you're going to get a job and that you have a lot of money whether have a job or not. You're gonna pay me so have so. We find out that his his mom has blocked her. I mean that's you have to be really bad if you are funneling money to somebody and annoy them so bad they block you. That's what i'm saying like cheese. Like i don't even want your money. That's how annoying. You are so what happened. Was we find out and we knew that stephanie was insane but this is really the confirmation so she got in a fight with him and she basically threatened him that she would ask for the money back for but but not all the money just months money because his mom didn't thank her or thank her working out the way that she wanted to be. And he's like yeah. My mom doesn't have to bend over backwards to you. Like if you choose to give money and you choose to help us out like you're choosing that from your heart rate also. It doesn't seem like they're asking her so if you do. Yeah so if you decide to do this. I mean it's very clear through to control him. Exactly yeah and Sorry am i would really like to take timeout to speak about. She wears three different outfits. The we saw in the first scene. Where she's there hulu right. She's wearing a rash guard as if maybe they're going surfing short white shorts and sandals. This just doesn't work. And i mean you're on vacation just like we spoke with our earlier when vacation. You wear cute things. Sure your boyfriend that you haven't seen in ten months. Why why is this your choice of out. I'm gonna tell you. There are definitely areas that maybe she does not wanna show okay. Oh i thought you meant that. It's not okay for her to show parts of her body in that area in case assaulted because it's gross. Yes no not at all. I think that remember something now. i'm not body shaming her whatsoever but you do have to understand that she is a very vain person and that's what she cares about. She owns a med spa again. Nothing wrong with that but she does Think that her appearance and her youth is the most important thing. Okay but so. I think that she's trying to avoid exposing certain of her body. Because i think like it's like this if you're fat and you wear something oversized and in a dark color. You think that no one thinks you're right. Stephanie things that if she dresses maybe like how a toddler dresses. That no one's gonna know what age she is the diaper in along shirt. When she's wearing that onesie that snaps at her crotch she's wearing a body suit and A huggies it like regardless of what your body type is. you can dress cute without revealing. But she doesn't know that she doesn't know that she is she the way she dresses is very odd as well. I don't think that this is just who she is. There's there's always something that she's trying to hide or try to. Accentuate the these weird parts of her body. I think that her shorts always way too big on her. Yes is too big. In in that next each is she's literally iphone. I gave the benefit of the doubt. And i wrote down t shirt dress. That's not. It's not a t shirt dress. Don't just his t shirt yet. But i think that she also likes back because she feels like like when you're in like you know when you're a teenager and you wanna wear your boyfriend's hoodie. It abed no she but she wants everyone to know that they're together and then this young couple that's very important to her is that they're a fun loving young couple so his mom just just blocked her and she said that she's trying to keep them fed and keep the lights on and now she doesn't send them any money now that his mom blocked her so she asked him. How many thousands of dollars do you think i've sent you. He's like. I don't know i want you to leave me alone but also i mean still semi money but also leave me alone. He really you can see him like clenching. His jaw as he speaks to her and like really restraints his respond on. Tell me understand. like i understand. He's orleans she gives me money she gives you money. She gives me money. Just sh- calm down. Ryan calmed down ryan. You've gotten I don't know an unprecedent amount of money from her. Please ryan just be quiet. You could do this. Mom's already blocked her mom's already blocked. Refine we're gonna be okay. She's such a hero though she so his mother wants space from her telling fair and i mean they were like. Bff's when they were they were they or is this how she pushes herself on people and forces her to say i love you back to her. She's like say you love me or i'm not going to send the money. I love you. Stephanie she sends a scripted. she's like when i send you money. This is how you this is. This is what you say. Because i clearly wasn't clear before. She's very old in the voice. She needs to get a voice injection. Maybe at the medicine they can do that. So she stricken heavy. I think it's a lot of her problem. She is drinking very heavy and they still have not had relations since she's been there i think she's been there for four to five hours the way i couldn't tell how long she had been there but she's checking in with her psychic so don't worry about it god they go to dinner and her. His mask is a picture of her. A it's another rebecca bad. I wonder where he got that from. Or do you want one. I think that do you think do you think he makes them for himself or you think that she sends that now that was in her luggage and his mom's why do i have stephanie mass. Everyone in that town does. He keeps sending stephanie mass. I asked her for right money. She sent me seven thousand mass when her picture on it. She's like do you know much that's worth she's like. How many mass did i send you. Pay your bills while you eat the masks. She's been checking with her psychic. Thank god and he says that he doesn't believe in psychics. He thinks like that kind of is like the devil. And i understand that that is a religious belief. I think christians are not supposed to believe in psychics. Yada yada yada. And he's like listen. Do you think that maybe you tell maria so much about me. That she uses that to maybe influence her readings and she's like i don't give maria any information. She tells her literally minute by minute. There like best friend and i sent her transcripts of every conversation that we have so. She's like what if you want kids or something. Maria says you're going to look for a young girl that have kids with he's like i don't want kids. I don't want kids right now. And she's like wait a minute you just said right now and i think that what he means. I don't want kids until after you die. It's i saved enough money from you. And then i can have no. But i think that he could just wait until she ages out and then he could still have kids. It's fair so Okay so this is what i think about stuff any. I've been really trying to analyze. How i feel about stephanie. 'cause i don't hate her but then like i don't like her and what i have realized is that i feel like she is like if you ordered darcy for wish dot com. You would get stephanie. Stephanie is like a poor man's dorsey and darcy's already a poor man's darcy. I feel like that's like more credit than she deserved. I mean they're crazy in different ways. Right yeah i don't know there aren't very many redeeming things about her deafening well. Also we don't know we don't really know a lot about her besides her trying to kill her cat very slowly so shiny nearer cat lady self admitted right. What do you think about her feeding the cat. Some play low fat key lime yogurt. It's insanity it's insanity. And i mean that doesn't to my knowledge occur in the wild right no. I don't think cats are trying to hunt down. Yo play yo fat yogurt in the wild. You don't think that there is a little bit like like tigers tiger's felines you don't think that there's tigers that are just looking for some key lime of it he's like. Oh my god two percent only it's gonna watch my weight over here so now four hours later rate everything seems fine four hours later we get this like almost like self taped footage s. He's leaving she gelling that he's lying and he said that he has a cab waiting and then she goes f off and die but she also of course says to throw in there in the heat of this argument. He says he has a cab. She says with what money is that really the milan important thing right now. It's probably a one dollar cab because he works at that resort. He's probably calling a golf cart to take him back to his room. That's harris him up. Arizona drives uber so that and she's already paid him. I think that stephanie needs a ton of help. And right now she's in belize. And i don't know if maria is the best person for her to be getting support from. I think that she should be talking to a licensed professional counselor. Like the ones that you can get when you use better help online counseling. I used better hop online counseling. I absolutely love it. 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I hate them while he's going back home to california he's sue percents to go home alone to quote a world of confusion why a world and after his two week vacation in mexico. That's where you're not going back to a world's confusion you're going back to your mom's daycare you're gonna you're gonna do some cost plate your mom's daycare. I don't even think you worked there. I think you just go there so. He's looking at a mirrors deceit on the airplane that she still paid for. I'm sure do you think she paid her part of that trip. Yeah i sure do so now. His mom picks him up and he said that he misses amirah everyday. He's like. I missed her swimming with the dolphins. I missed her during a buffet breakfast. I missed her. When i was doing the walking tours. I missed atv tours. I miss is having talks tacos on the beach. I really miss her that much during the massage because the girl really did keep me a lot of company but i did miss her like in other ways. I didn't miss her when i was sleeping. Either because i slip diagonally on the bed. And i was happy for that but i do miss her all the time. So his mom's like oh has she talked about the detention center that she was in and he's like not really just because i was so busy like i was eating crepes. And then she like You know ooh so said. I was in jail and then i was like a mirror. I can't really hear you. you're breaking up. You didn't have like the best service you know. And then you know having yeah like. I'm having a margarita. Please tell me the story while. I'm drinking a margarita in the sign league. I don't want to hydrate from my tears like she didn't tell me also i didn't ask also. Yeah it was like. It's better that you should talk to a counselor about that. So this is what tossing around the idea of. Going to serbia. What tossing. who's who's you're tossing into her. You just keep tossing. It's her and she keeps not catching it. Because but it's so easy. So easy to go through serbia. You just listen. He wants her to do whatever makes her feel safe securing comfortable. So you know it's like if you have to swim from france to the us then it's like whatever makes you happy. Yeah like i just go to a different countries because a different language and then you know. Hang out there for fourteen days by yourself right here. I am seven to ten percents. Sure that she won't go back to his attention center. So i don't know. Serbia seems like a really good established. Country what what. i think. She's going to be fine. Like i don't know why she wouldn't wanna i wanna live in serbia right now. I was thinking maybe even she could go through. Maybe the middle east and just stay there for a little while. Maybe through each gel like maybe jordan or You know what i was saying. Serbia meant syria. I was saying maybe she should go to syria for a little while. There is a lot of. there's a little bit of unrest. But like in all the confusion she probably just slip right into the us so maybe she should do that. His chihuahua greets him. It's so cute though. That's my only part that i liked. I know i really did like it. But i was also hoping that someone was watching it. I do the same thing. The show our just like holding down the fort starving so now we look at the giant tiger on the bed and he has a gift basket for her for her winning getting to america which she did not win. She didn't win the prize iphone. A five hundred dollar zab. Id card because we can't trust her with more than that. We could never just give her access to our money. She gets five hundred dollars and five hundred dollars only and then the bear its name is garrett but they call gear and he puts it in the closet so he's pretending that he has all these stuffed animals for her to come over. He's like yeah. These were kids that well. That's not true but okay sure now if we're really being fair about speaking about mental illness. Let's talk about ziauddin rebecca. Oh boy i don't think there's a ton wrong with said i you know what since he's been in america no i don't hate him at all. No i'm like yeah. He seems pretty nice. So he's face timing is niece and nephew and rebecca's like excuse me ziad no more talking to anyone. That's not me bathroom and see your surprise. And she hands him some fake tattoos and then she says this is quote. You're ready. they're not real won't hurt. Don't worry they're not. I'm not going to needle them on. That's how tattoos word. Have you ever gotten a tattoo. Show yes did you know when you when you got these tattoos shoes right so you have. You have two full sleeves or just just one. Okay you have fall asleep did you. Was that with water. You put that on. Yeah in my bathroom and then it just stayed on right forever. And you're like oh my god. I didn't know the real right. Well she She also mommy. Mommy has tattoos. So she wants baby to have time to look. Mommy has them but dc how. She shows her tattoos day but by making a muscle. What does that mean. Well because big strong mommy has such a big strong baby's going to have tattoos. And then she also got babies some plato. But he can't play on the bed because he has to play on the floor on the carpet carpet. Concrete garage looks get real. They just hose it down after he plays so she's like do you want maybe to wear them to meet my family. And he's like no no and she goes all you just want to just just for me. He's like yeah. Sure listen you said. I had a surprise. I thought maybe it was going to be a coach. You gave me a fake tattoo. Also could you possibly set him up for failure a little bit more. You want to stick a sleeve fake tattoos on your boyfriend before going to hang out with your daughter. No they're going to the rushed right and this is sad goes so hungry and then rebecca goes. I can't even say it. She goes this place so beautiful food. Okay so here's what's happening ziad. His english is pretty good. Rebecca's english is getting worse and ziad's is getting better. I thought that this was Even though we may have suspected in the past but this proves why he speaks that way yes so much beautiful because she did it he probably speaks fluent beautiful english and he's talking that way so he could communicate with her because that's how he thinks she talks. That's she's like you think just for me. He's like so beautiful three. We have mac on all right so now she says like oh. You're going to be eating my family. I thought it was gonna be like. I dunno a family. No offense but it was her daughter and her boyfriend who they've already met and she's like oh they're going to have a bunch them out because of course they're going to have to other people come out because they're looking to pair him with people his age. So do you have any young people. He can hang out with sue now. They're all looking him when they when they opened the scene. Everyone's just looking at him like it's islands. Everyone just has a straight face but there has age. If we're really being honest. They're his age. So now hannah a friend of their. She's trying to make conversation and they were asking him. Like what is the biggest difference between here and there and she said if you kiss your boyfriend public hobo jail for six months and i just realized how many men i would like to travel to tunisia. Do you have any ex-boyfriends that you wish you were indonesia with right now shannon very a so so many so beauty so so mosh rebecca's going to murder hannah. Yeah let's gonna. She's gonna hurt her in the face. Hannah is literally the only person that tree ten like a human being. She's on talking to him. Yeah she's asking. She's not asking him ridiculous questions. That having a legitimate conversation he even makes a joke when she person. Yeah he was. He's killing it and rebecca is just doing. Oh my god she but she's not even like a confident mad. She's like this uncomfortable. Kid like oh like sulking. And it's very like i had such second hand embarrassment. So now her son. Now i gotta tell you. I think i was totally off about her son in law. I thought that he was very aggressive about ziad before he got here. And now i'm seeing like. Oh they treat her like a kid. 'cause she acts like a kid and he's actually just trying to be protective of her. I agree so he asked if They go hunting there and he said it's almost turkey seizing and maybe they can go turkey. Hunting together okay. I think that's adorable. Not that i liked turkey hunting. But they're just trying that's that's the way they bond. What are we going to do about that now. She's gonna kill hannah and there's a band actually called. Kill hannah really. Yeah there is. there's a band. They used to hang out with them all the time when i was younger and i think that rebecca might have been the lead singer of so they as they had. What do you do. Usually when rebecca is at work. And he's like i watch a movie. You know play. Xbox he's been there for like four days and that's all. He has is an xbox and xbox a mattress so hannah is like she also rebecca things that while she's at work ziad is going to go to the storage space by himself and drive and he's gonna move all the furniture by himself on his back by foot by. I hope the search space. I cannot fits couch shopping carts. So hannah's like actually my family has a lot of trucks. A lot of flack beds first of all. Is your family in the trucking business or did you guys just have a lot of cars. I couldn't tell this was obviously so staged by the produce producers so. She's like rebecca confronts him in front of the whole table. And as i do you hear what she's saying. She's saying that she'll help you move are you gonna. You're gonna let a girl. A woman move your. I don't think she was asking to help him move the furniture in no. I can't do you need to borrow one of the cars car if you load it exactly and it doesn't it's just this whole scene blows my mind because also like i know that it's supposed to be while she's at work like an intimate busyness. You're in america. You don't let women in the house when i'm and he's like why i don't know what's happening. I really don't know what's happening. He's like. I speak better english the new rebecca and i still don't know what's happening now when she asks him i he's like yes so then she says it again he's like no i don't even know and rebecca's like this place so beautiful food so they all get up and leave without finishing their meals and like i don't know what i did. I think i did a bad thing. But i don't know what the bad thing was. She also thanked uses his culture however she wants to because when she's yelling at him. She's like You know what she's talking to the camera. She says i o in his culture. They don't have single women and men and then at the end she was like. Oh american women are different than how you're using your culture it just using it however she can. She's a crazy person. Like for real. And i gotta tell you i have so much more to say about her and i think we're probably going to talk about some of this on our stereo trash talk after show every single wednesday at seven pm eastern standard time. The greatest thing about stereo is that you should listen live because you could interact with us but if you don't you can listen. Afterwards the link is going to be right in the show notes. But if you don't see that it's stereo dot com slash trixie to zini so what you're going to do. Is you download the app. You're going to follow me and you're going to see all of our trash talk after shows for every wednesday at seven pm and you're going to be able to interact with us all the way. 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Merry Black Widows

Cherry Avenue True Crime Podcast

17:27 min | 6 months ago

Merry Black Widows

"Welcome back to cherry avenue. True crime podcast. I have two new movies for you. In this continued series based on a true story. I true crime story that is both are about black widows who chose poison interestingly they were both southern women and were operating around the same time period one in north carolina and one in alabama the black widow. Murders the blanche taylor moore story and wife mother murderer the story of marie hilley. The first movie we will cover is the black widow. Murders the blanche. Taylor moore story. It's a nineteen ninety-three movie. I found it on youtube. The movie stars elizabeth montgomery david clendenin and john m jackson it starts out with elizabeth. Montgomery as blanche taylor moore talking about her childhood. She says her daddy was a minister and her mom worked at a textile mill. She says they were poor when she was a child. Her dad had four children with another woman as well. The movie is based on the book. Preachers girl by jim shoots blanche. Taylor moore was born blanche to fly honeycutt and parker kaiser parker was a millworker and an ordained batteries minister he was also a reported womanizer and gambler. Blanche married her first husband in may of nineteen fifty. Two james taylor. A veteran and furniture restorer. They had two children together. The bland started working at the grocery store. Kroger's in nineteen fifty four by nineteen fifty nine. She was the head cashier in. Nineteen sixty two. Blanche began an affair with the store. Manager raymond read blanche's husband. James died in october of nineteen seventy-three initially as a heart attack after james death. Blanche and raymond started dating out in the open. The movie picks up some time after blanche's husband has already been deceased for awhile and now her house is on fire. The fire department is there and soon so as her boyfriend. Raymond blanche's talking to the police about the fire. Raymond comes over to console her. The fire is out now after the police leave. He says he will take her home to his place to get a sweater and then gets in his car as they are driving away he tells her he sees her house on fire again. She says it must be the same pervert who set the fire earlier. She doesn't seem terribly concerned. Blanche and raymond had been dating openly for twelve years. At this point it was nineteen eighty five and it seemed like blanche was may be getting bored in real life. It was said that blanche had started to date. The regional manager of kroger's. It is unclear if that was true. But what did happen for sure was. Blanche filed a sexual harassment lawsuit on the regional manager and krogers in october of nineteen eighty. Five kroger's settled the case out of court for two hundred and seventy five thousand dollars a couple of years later then in the movie. It is easter of nineteen. Eighty five blanche meads. Reverend dwight more. And they start flirting. This is true and in both real life and in the movie she takes the relationships low and keeps it on the quiet because of raymond but also because of the lawsuit with kroger's she has been dating raymond for twelve years since the death of her husband and even though she has become tired of raymond and feels the preacher might be better marriage material. She keeps saying raymond reid in nineteen eighty-six redeveloped an illness that was diagnosed as shingles at first in the movie when blanche loses her job. She convinces raymond to get her a new car complaining. How unsafe for old one as raymond gets her a new car and when the preacher asks her about her relationship with raymond she tells them they are only good friends. Then raymond ends up in the hospital. She brings him banana pudding but he only manages to eat a little as he says. He is sick to his stomach. The movie shows flashbacks that blanche has of a man dragging her way while her father just stands by and watches turns out. Raymond not only bought her new car. He also gave her around ten thousand dollars to get by while she was unemployed. However raymond didn't know she was also seeing the preacher and now he is in the hospital. Raymond is and leaves her one third of his estate the other two portions going to his sons. His cause of death was listed. As a as from gillian barr syndrome. This was an october nineteen. Eighty six the blanche and reverend more or dating more publicly now and they make plans to marry but blanche finds out. She has breast cancer and they have to remove the whole breast blanche's concerned that more won't wanna marry her but he assures her that she is still the most desirable woman he has ever known. Wedding date was set for november nineteen eighty eight but the reverend gets sick and has to have two surgeries. They finally get married. In april of nineteen eighty nine and the reverend starts to get sick again eventually hands up in the hospital. The doctors do a heavy metal test and find arsenic brutal treatment that they have to do in the hospital. But the reverend survives. He doesn't believe that blanche did this to him. At first he tells the police. He doesn't think she would do this to him. Toxicology showed that reverend moore had more than one hundred times the normal amount of arsenic in his system more than had ever been found in a living human being but the police have already started to look into who died around blanche. They take another. Look at raymond reid's death and blanche's first husband bodies start to get zoomed. Raymond reads body shows arsenic poisoning so does blanche's first husband and even her father. She was charged with first degree. Murder of raymond reid and her first husband james taylor. She was found. Guilty of raymond reads murder in nineteen. Ninety is an end is on death. Row north carolina. After she was sentenced to death and raymond reads murder. They decided not to go after her any further and dropped. The other charges turns out all the flashbacks they show in the movie of blanche being dragged away by another man while her father looks on. Were about her remembering that her father had sold into prostitution to pay his gambling debts. She was just a young girl when he did this to her. In february two thousand in nineteen. Abc eleven tv station did a story reporting on. How blanche taylor moore was the oldest woman on north carolina's death row. Blanche taylor moore is still alive. As of the date of this recording in north carolina correctional institution for women in raleigh. The next movie is wife. Mother murderer is a nineteen ninety. One movie i found this one on youtube. As well starring judith light and david ogden steers. It is the story of marie. Hilley a wife and mother who started killing after twenty years of marriage. This one is really something. I read about her many many years ago and never forgot her recently. Saw this movie audrey. Marie frazier was born on june fourth. Nineteen thirty three and aniston. Bama she married. Frank healy her high school sweetheart on may eighth nineteen fifty one and they had two children together. Mike and carol in the movie. Murray's husband dies after a mysterious illness. Then she gets a secretary job and his sleeping with her boss. There is a house fire and marine daughter and her grandma just escape in the movie. We see just marie her husband and daughter in real life. Marie had both a son miche and a daughter. Carol and her husband frank. Frank had a good paying job and marie was employed as a secretary. There are reports that say. Marie sometimes had extramarital affairs with her bosses and they in turn favored her with extra money and or gifts. Despite a decent combined income the family had financial issues. Due to murray's overspending. Mike said that he carol and their father. Frank became sick with stomach problems. He says that this started just a few months. After some new life insurance policies were purchased. The doctors were not able to help with the stomach issues and they disappeared on their own after mike went away to college while he was gone. His dad's illness got much worse and ended in death with the official diagnosis of hepatitis. Frank's life insurance was thirty thousand. This was nineteen seventy five so that would be worth just over one hundred and fifty thousand dollars today. Marie spent it fast. She bought a new car and furniture for the house. She bought gifts for her mother. Son and daughter. Mike had just gotten married and she bought them furniture for their new life together. Apparently she kept buying on credit. After the insurance money ran out racking up a lot of debt the was four years after frank's death at carroll started having stomach problems again. Carol was eighteen at this point. Mike had started to get calls from his mom's creditors saying she had put him down. As a sort of guarantor. Mike was living in florida at this time. And he flew home to alabama to talk to his mom about the spending and debt. After she cooked him breakfast he became very ill. He flew back home soon. After carol stomach problems worsened she was taken to the hospital. While they're marie injected her in the hip was something telling her. It would make her better but she got worse. Marie was arrested for bad checks in september of nineteen seventy-nine somewhere around this time. A doctor noticed some things and carol that pointed to arsenic poisoning and tests were done. It was found that she had indeed been poisoned in october. Nineteen seventy-nine frank's body. Was exumed january. Eleventh nineteen eighty and arrest warrant was issued for marie for the murder of her husband. They couldn't find her. However because marie had fled in the ensuing investigation they discovered that both murray's mother and meri's mother-in-law died under similar circumstances to frank but marie hilley had fled and was a fugitive for just over three years. Marie had gone to florida. She started using the name robbi hannon she got a secretarial job and met a man named john greenleaf home in the third. They live together for a year and then got married in may of nineteen eighty one and moved to new hampshire. She had previously talked to john about her twin sister terry in texas and told him that she had a rare disease and she had to fly back to texas to see a about it. This was in the summer of nineteen eighty two during the trip. She called john and pretended to be robbie's nonexistent twin sister. Terry she told john that his wife robbie had died she also told him it was robbie's wish for her body to be donated to science so no need to come out to texas for the body. Terry and john talked over the phone for months before deciding. They should meet in november of nineteen eighty-three after having lost weight and changed her hair color. Murray with the new identity of terry returned to new hampshire and met john as the grieving sister of his deceased wife. John and terry eventually started a relationship and johns. Co workers were suspicious of his sister-in-law. The police were contacted and they took a look at the obituary for robbie handling they were unable to verify anything in the obituary and in fact found the medical institute where rob's body was donated did not exist at all at one point. They suspected terry was a fugitive bank. Robber named carol manning but later found out she wasn't of course terry got his secretarial job in a town near where she and john lived and she probably thought it was going well. She was arrested one day at work and while being questioned she confessed that she was wanted in alabama for writing bad checks. She gave them her real name. Audrey marie hillary they quickly found out she was wanted for more serious charges and she was dated to alabama. She was convicted and sentenced to life in prison for her husband's murder and given twenty years for the attempted murder of her daughter. She was at tut. Wiler women's institute a medium security prison and she eventually earned day passes for good behavior. She returned to the prison from each of these visits. In february nineteen eighty seven. She was given a three day pass to visit her husband. John holman john got a motel room in nearby. Anniston spent the day there. When john left the room for a few hours marie disappeared. She left behind a note asking for his forgiveness. Home and alerted police in the four days. She was missing. She was apparently out in the woods. There had been frequent rain during this time. And the temperatures even got down to the low thirties. She eventually was found on the back porch of a woman and aniston who called the police thinking. She was a transient woman. Who needed help. Marie died on the way to the hospital. Suffering a heart attack brought on from hypothermia. Ironically marie knew the woman whose home she turned up at they were in elementary school together. Likely she hadn't recognized marie after all the years and then the four days in the woods. I have two bonus movie names for you that you can look up in stream if you want to watch them. The first one is death in small doses. It one hundred ninety. Five movie starring richard thomas and tess harper. I found this on amazon prime and to be tv. It is based on the true story of nancy lyons. Nancy was taken to the hospital by her husband. Richard lyon and she died in the hospital and her family blames richard. Arsenic was found. Her family tells the that richard had left nancy for a younger woman and it supposedly didn't work out and that he was back in the house together with her trying to make it work. They were back together and he was in the house with her when she got sick while he is being investigated. Richard hires an attorney and he hires a private eye. And richard tells them he feels that nancy may have killed herself in a way that would make it look like he had done her in in another words that she took the arsenic herself. The other movie is sins of the preacher. Two thousand and thirteen movie starring gil. Grady and chris garden. I found this one onto btv. It was inspired by true story. And the screenplay was based on the true crime. Book by catherine casey that cease y Story it's the story of matt. Baker minister and his wife carrie baker who supposedly committed suicide. Of course there assist suspicion there and that is what the whole movie is about extra bonus for me. I found out that anne rule recommended catherine. Casey's book so i'm going to have to check them out. I will put all of the names of the movies and everything in the show notes so make it easier for you to find them. If you want to support this podcast please tell a friend Share about it on social media. Please come and visit me and social media. I met twitter at new crime and on instagram on cherry avenue true crime. Thank you and as always stay safe for the sources for today's episode. I will put all the links in the show notes. But they are also as follows. Marie hilley unsolved mysteries wicky. Fandom audrey murray hill wikipedia twenty seven interesting and strange facts about audrey. Marie hilley ton of facts. Marie hilley murdered her husband and poisoned her daughter before escaping prison monsters and critics dot com. Blanche taylor moore wikipedia. Blanche taylor moore. Black widow killer is north carolina's oldest woman on death row. Abc eleven raleigh. Durham where is blanche. Taylor moore now. Is she still in jail. Today is blanche. Taylor moore dead or alive. The crime mahalick dot com former prosecutor in blanche taylor moore trial dies in charlotte charlotte observer. Blanche taylor moore woman on death row. Mike crime library.

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Just The Tip Home Decor - Season 3, Episode 46

First & 10s

20:35 min | 10 months ago

Just The Tip Home Decor - Season 3, Episode 46

"The first intense podcast will start right after a word about our official sponsor usual wines. Usual wines are clean wines for the modern Drinker. Each bottle is 6.3 ounces, which is us poor Amy. It's a heavy pork about a glass and a half of wine usual wines are amazing. They are made in napa-sonoma Santa Barbara all the awesome places where you get delicious red wine white wine, Brut wine, whatever you want. There's minimal intervention 0-0 additives low carb and again zero grams of sugar very important this holiday season. They have a new usual Reserve. It's ultra-premium limited edition Mount veeder Cabernet Sauvignon. It is delicious gifted to someone keep it for yourself. It's there for the holidays. It's very limited stock. So get it while you can keep it for yourself. Go to usual wines.com use our promo code first for a discount off your first order. Try it out. This is the first and Jen's with your host Jasmine sadry and Amy Voss there tends get it. Welcome to the first intense podcast, I'm Jasmine and I'm Amy. Thank you for checking us out today. Please go like And subscribe to our podcast as we always say give us a review and share us as well. We would love that share. The love sharing is caring is Amy was would always say on today's episode. We've got another round of dakstats that Amy hates lord gave me you're going to love this because I know I do and that's all that matters to me. That's getting also Juice throwing shade which sounds like a children's book title is not an actual story. It does juice Throwing Shade. We're also going into the NFL Wildcard Weekend super stoked about that. So that means NFL Wild Card Weekend fun facts get your nerd glasses out folks. So excited and out of pocket protectors. Guess you came up with those exactly exactly exactly. Yep. Person who owns Sunday NFL ticket. Well not owns it but has it I own it. Yeah own it. If I know that we wouldn't be doing this podcast l. Oh my God. No Jesus. I would be like being somewhere along with you off an offsides Miley Cyrus is giving us all decorating tips for your home. You're going to want to listen to this. These are very incredible pieces of art that she's she was recommending that we all have and it's Miley Cyrus. So what do you expect? Okay, let's start with our NFL news and let's start with a Jack's dad hates cuz I hated when tax exceeds off the Cowboys. Okay. So here's the story hate is a strong word. By the way, you're not a fan of the Cowboys will just say that well, that's true the Cowboys as we know them yet to sign back to a long-term deal long-term contract extension. But Jerry Jones continues to say it's the plan. Okay. So stop with the hating everybody Amy boss who are like well, yeah, he'll come back. In a different uniform he's not so Jerry admitted this week. The deck has a ton of Leverage. Obviously. We saw the way the season plays out. That doesn't scream leverage. I don't know what does when it comes to his contract talks. So he said this is his quote. He said I don't know how you could have any more leverage his his evolving into an NFL quarterback has been nothing short of a perfect picture. He has great ability in my mind to win games. He's talented he certainly has the experience. He has all the things which have which has been substantiated by what we've offered back. You wouldn't offer Jack will be offered in the past. If you not thought he was very special the issue is how do you come together? And that's no stranger to me. I've been doing it long life putting things together. We've got to get it together. Yeah, Jerry, you got to get it together in the bigger picture, dude. Hello. This team fucking sucks right now as it stands, but can't wait for Jack to come back home team will be assembled and we will go to the promised land next year Amy agree to disagree. I mean, this is a Jack's got that Amy hates any time there's happy positive. Back news. Well, I mean and take a shit on it. I I wouldn't say this is Happy Dak news. I mean there he's not saying that he's signed on the dotted line. He's saying that they're trying to get a deal together which Happy Jack news because now it's speculation that he's not going to come back as a cowboy you can have hope in one hand and shit in the other and see which one fills up fast month. Well clearly. I mean you should more than you hope so that's all we're saying when it comes to the Dallas Cowboys. Yeah a Miche it's more than she hopes wage. Okay moving on because I will not tolerate more desecration of Dakota Prescott. Juju throw shade a children's book. And what is the supposedly sounds like a children's book? That's funny. Okay. So, you know how Juju does his thing every game like if he's playing an away game, he goes to the middle of the field and does his little Tick Tock does his Juju, Yes right off. Okay, so they asked him about this upcoming wild-card game against the Cleveland Browns and this is what he said. I quote. I think there's still the same Browns team. I play every year. I think their name is gray faces. They have a couple of good players on their team, but at the end of the day, I don't know. The Browns is the Browns Juju honey preach honey. Plz ocean shade. It's true. It's true. I mean think about it when you think of the Browns. Well, here's here's the thing. They are going to be nameless gray faces because half the team has covansys they're not going to know who they're going to play. That's another thing too. I was asking you before we started taping. What's with the Browns. Are we going to like? Well their facilities been Club because everybody's testing positive for Kovac. So Kevin stefanski the head coach's out and then there's two or three other, you know top players that are out as well. So they can't practice birth. According to the latest news Baker hasn't thrown a pass in a whole entire week which again, you know, if you're talented then you shouldn't have to practice single day, but I got shut my mouth actually connected by practicing every single day. So hey, remember remember Joe burrow was an excellent Zoom quarterback going into the season remember that that's right. He was a fan of his passer rating on zoom off the charts. So yeah, I mean it's going to be interesting to see what kind of team they show up with wage against the Steelers and if they can put points on the board, it does not looking not looking well for the browse which you know, of course. Yes, I'm going to root for the Steelers but I like an underdog and I was kind of excited for the Browns organization since they haven't been to the playoffs since like 2002 Ami Nicol Voss don't you dare utter those words because I know two men Bruce birth. And Mike McVey that would have your ass for saying those words that you were rooting for the Browns rooting for the Browns. I'm rooting for the Steelers, but I have a soft spot for The Underdogs so long that's all about that. You better hard in that soft spot real quick. You're a Steeler fan through-and-through. Amy actually waiting. So I will be this weekend. I forgot you've got never mind. Never mind. You're a insert all teams, except the Cowboys fan through-and-through. Yeah see, thank you. Let's be accurate. Okay on this podcast. We're if we're we're nothing. We're accurate. Okay, Ami some would say a word accurate. Okay. Oh, all right. So NFL Wildcard Weekend starts tomorrow Saturday, which everybody stoked about this is downtown bolshit. And this is what it all comes down to this is what we play for. Right? So with that said maybe has some fun facts about NFL do I do? Hope my pocket protector? All right, fun fact Got a wild-card virginity to if you could find it. Good luck. I think it was somewhere in Nashville. Anyway Wild Card Weekend fun facts. Did you know that I did not notice the head coach of the Colts Frank Reich Greek Reich, right? Let's go with Reich. He looks like our friend Rob Chickering. Hi, every time we see Craig a sponge bag. That's not the fun fact. So the fun fact is like for those of you who don't know who to help Rob Chickering is that does not matter know the fun fact is Frank Wright was drafted by the bills from 1985 and he faces them this weekend in the wild card game that fun fact more. Fun fact, Amy and I weren't even born yet. That's more amazing fun. Right no choice. Oh, yeah. I mean fun fact number to Pete Carroll is 34 years and 131 days older than Sean McVay. So Seattle plays the Rams this coming weekend right? I know a dead. All right, so Pete Carroll 34 years and 131 days older than Sean McVeigh which sets the record for the largest age differential between opposing head coaches in a playoff game in NFL history. This is so dorky. I'm pretty convinced Joey said you that one because she's been walking around feeding me stats from the 2013 Seahawks season. Shoot me fucking shoot me dead. Yeah, so I didn't realize that a baby shot McVeigh is but he totally is again, we've been like, oh my gosh, like cradle-robbing with him. Yeah. He's younger than I am fuck off. Okay, I don't want let's not talk about it. All right moving on the one thing real quick remove on cuz you're talking about the Seahawks because of the masks. I miss Pete Carroll chewing like a maniac I miss seeing them come with you can't see it under his mask know remember when he'd see his mouth like this like I'm doing a search. Yeah. I look like a squirrel but like it's his mouth go Bonkers and the gifts were better that way now we're just looks dead. A mask that's vibrating. It's weird. Maybe it is maybe he's got some fun going on toward his mask. That's the mask. We need adds to the most everybody needs a phone. Next. Fun fact, fun fact number three Lamar Jackson won the MVP in 2019, but he lost in the playoffs to the Titans. Now, they face the Titans again this weekend and change history does not suggest that he will get revenge because each of the previous quarterbacks to lose a playoff game the year that they won MVP and then played the same opponent following year lost that rematch. So if you're going by that fact, you're looking at a Titans win, okay, and that thus concludes our fun facts for Walker. Thank you so much. Amy your research box was spot on that was some very hard-hitting hard-hitting research. Okay, Doug dig dig dig dug Deep South Oh dear, God Damien. This is me. So glad it's Friday holyshit. That's me sober. Okay, so pick two teams you're rooting for this weekend go off of the Steelers Steelers. Okay. Yeah Titans Steelers. I will go Titans and obviously because I live with someone who is a Seahawks fan. I have to so those are my two picks so we'll see what they do home, right? Okay, let's get an offsides next where Miley Cyrus is giving us home decorating tips. You don't want to miss this if you guys are looking at filling up some empty space in your home and you're like gosh what can we do at the space to play with? What is in that empty Corner? She's got that can be more than one thing after we read this story that's coming up. Next. This podcast is sponsored by usual wines usual Winesburg clean lines for the modern Drinker each bottle of 6.3 ounces a heavy poor that's a glass and a half of wine. And that is an Amy Jasmine metric unit of measurement. Okay. So no more pouring wind down think it is wrong. Did when you don't want to finish the bottle, cuz sometimes you just can't that single sir format and bottle design which is completely as the kids say supes Crush just awesome. Usual is always fresh no more flat bubbly or scale ROM. They are made in California. 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Yep. It doesn't compromise on taste. No wine. This one does not we're alcohol content with Chalo exactly usual has a red blend arose a and a sparkling white called Brute and for the holiday season, they have a special product called usual Reserve. It's an ultra-premium limited edition Mount veeder Cabernet Sauvignon. It is so delicious. So smooth. I'm telling you you have to get this while you can they only made four hundred cases of this stuff and it's going to suck fast. So gifted to someone special keep it for yourself and it's only out there for a short time as I always say keep it for yourself go to usual wines.com use our promo code first for your discount off your first order and try to get today. All right, let's get an offsides and interior decorators. Listen up. This is a very special segments that we're providing to you Amy also as a real estate agent, this is something that you could give you age. Potential clients some advice on if they're looking at home and they're like, yeah, but gosh, what would we do with the space? Wait now, you know, yeah so Miley Cyrus home. Sweet Miley. Let's just say some people use candles some people use framed art. Well, she is a sex toys and according to Miley Cyrus. He's our sex toys for the house guys sex toys to functions in her household one obviously being the reason that we have them but also she likes to decorate her house with them as well. This is not a joke. This is her quote I gave them for myself, but I end up using them for interior design sex and interior design go hand-in-hand. How is she going to explain that to her kids whenever she has them? Mommy? What is this song? That's a dildo Johnny. I mean what it's a penis lamp. Let's move on. Is it the is it a penis lamp or is it a vibrator that looks like a penis lamp. Well, it's yep. Only a vibrating penis lamp you turn it on and then he's like why why shaking so this is what she also she continues and says I'll buy a dildo and for more than its operation. I don't really want to get in them with it because I love the way it looks on my table. I like vibrators, but I mostly like aesthetic. So Amy as someone who has a beautiful mid-century modern home. Lots of great natural light looks like an art gallery. It's a gorgeous home. If you ever would you ever look up any area and that home and go. Hey Bruce, we need a giant glass dick in the corner know, you know, I have two dogs and they have this truck toy. This is going to wait for it. They have this dog toy and it's a it's a plastic bone, but it's ginormous pack like it's fat and thick and it looks like to like balls on the end of a stick. It looks like a deli chicken ball. It looks like yes. Yes, it's exactly what it looks like and it's red like plastic read on I swear and I was like decided this was a great idea, aesthetically for a dog toy like every time I see it laying around the house, I'm Like who took out the plastic red Bill do I really know? I cannot handle it and say no, I would not decorate my house by the how do you explain that to your kids? Like what it's our tame got to think deep especially deep whatever. Okay. I love Amy story about the dog toy chicken balls cuz you know, she's like, okay. Well no it have this in this home shame on you. I'm going to put this in a safe place like my nightstand grows. Yeah. I don't know honestly, I think it'd be I a me I would live for you to do this just in video tape it when you're sweet Catholic mother comes over and she's like looking at it. Like is it what I think it is. I would love to get people's reactions. I think that's the only way that I would do this whole like how not it's kind of like, okay. Do you remember the the movie A Christmas Story where they have the lampshade the the legs leg? You know, I mean, it sounds like my lady's house is like dead. Just A step above that, you know that the leg could actually turn into some sort of sex toy smiling I'm going to regret looking this is Cyrus Choi sex toy you're going to regret this Google decorations, let's see cuz I've got to see if she gives us any oh wow. Oh she's not kidding a me. Let me let me let me pull up this photo here. Let's do a shared screen on the old Xoom since that's how we are developed. This is cording off and let's share screen and Amy, do you see right here? They look like cactuses. They do look like cactuses. So she's got a bunch of the rabbit vibrators on her bar. Yeah, How do you like and what do you do when your parents come over like, you know use of a parents celebrated her parents celebrate that it's no wonder the family so fucking weird. There's a lot I do. Know if you know, but if you just Google them, there's a lot of stuff going on in that family and that sign whose family's normal, but let's call it when somebody's family is normal. But I mean whatever happened to each his own who am I to each his own so Amy I shared this with our audience. I share it with you and other fellow Realtors like yourself to help give inspo to potential clients who are just thought man. We love this house, but there's so much room here. What would we use to decorate? I know and if somebody doesn't like plants or you have a you don't have a green thumb use a dildo cuz it looks like a cactus so it could be the same thing that brings a new name to the word succulent. That and more Pro tips with Amy the realtor Amy working folks reach you if they'd like to purchase a home. Versus Jets podcast.com all words. This is the kind of real estate. We're dealing with folks holyshit. Okay as we always do we end on a high note? I don't know what that really means wage. But that's it. Okay, first intense podcast.com all words to check out all of our episodes Amy. What else is there? All of our social media links are there audio links are there but wherever you get your Rdio just bought a Google or not don't Google but search first intense podcast and you'll find us you will find us cuz we're everywhere folks. All right until Monday after our Wild Card wacky wild cards. Anyway, I'm Jasmine. I'm a v Thanks for listening to the first intense podcast. Now, here's the word about our sponsor usual wines. Usual wines are clean wines for the modern Drinker each bottle of 6.3 ounces, which is us poor Amy. It's a heavy pork about a glass and half of wine usual wines are amazing. They are made in napa-sonoma Santa Barbara all the awesome places where you get delicious red wine white wine, Brut wine, whatever you want. There's minimal intervention 040 additives low carb and again zero grams of sugar very important this holiday season. They have a new usual Reserve. It's ultra-premium limited edition Mount veeder Cabernet Sauvignon. It is delicious gifted to someone keep it for yourself. It's there for the holidays. It's very limited stock. So get it while you can keep it for yourself. Go to usual wines.com use our promo code first for a discount off your first order them. Try it out.

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Previewing The New Portillo's w/ Karen Dybis + Stories To Know Around Town

Daily Detroit

17:31 min | 8 months ago

Previewing The New Portillo's w/ Karen Dybis + Stories To Know Around Town

"Hey it's monday february twenty-second twenty twenty one from detroit's north end. Welcome to your daily detroit. I'm jair stays today. Karen diva's joins me to preview. What so many food fans in the region are talking about. The new portillo's in sterling heights. Karen went to the media event late last week. And we'll share all the details. She's got but first we'll talk about some things to know around metro detroit. A group of about one hundred mccomb county restaurant and bar owners are suing. The state naming governor gretchen. Whitmer the department of health and human services director elizabeth hertel and pat gagliardi the chair of the liquor control commission. They're seeking damages from the state for the closures. Dining restrictions mandated in response to the covid nineteen pandemic the county restaurant bar and banquet association contends in the suit filed late last week that the michigan constitution does not allow the government to take away people's property and businesses without just compensation. It's a different legal route than the michigan legislature and others have taken not questioning the legality of the shutdowns but seeking monetary reward by jury trial specifically compensation for the potential lost prophets. I will note that multiple media outlets report. That many of the association members weren't wearing masks and did not social distance until they got up to speak in front of cameras. The suit was filed in mccomb comedy circuit court separately from this suit. I'll know that in a number of recent polls support for the governor's actions around the pandemic is around sixty percent and a new poll out by click on detroit's shows that more than fifty six percent do not feel safe returning to dining indoors and generally about half of their poll. Respondents think legally resume indoor dining currently indoor dining is allowed at twenty five percent capacity in the state and onto. Vaccinations wayne county announced saturday. A number of new vaccination sites for those sixty five and older for this week. There are sites that serve canton plymouth. Highland park hamtramck inkster. Melvin dale romulus and the city of each has their own phone number and although the press materials say to contact the location closest to them. A number of listeners. Have said that. These vaccinations sites are for those city residents. Only not for wayne county in general so. Your mileage may vary and don't be surprised. I'll link to the wayne. County website wayne county dot com in the show notes. The listing of all the cities and phone numbers is on the front page. If you or a loved one one one of these appointments. You should consider acting quickly. Detroit versus everybody is well known locally and it's become more visible over last few years nationally with their gear on stars musicians and tv shows. The latest thing is a collaboration with the italian luxury. Brand gucci for gucci versace everybody detroit versus everybody was founded by tommy walker and two thousand twelve and has been doing a variety of deals over the years licensing and working with those for custom versus everybody. Apparel photos have appeared on social media with the new clothes. There aren't a ton details on the deal other than it is part of gucci's change makers initiative so proceeds from special t shirt line will support nonprofit organizations locally designed core detroit is listed by gucci as part of the change makers program as well as gucci give scholarships for students interested in making the fashion industry more diverse. We've been following the ups and downs of the art van brand over the last few years for decades. It was metro detroit's best known furniture. Retailer art van elslander. The founder spent a lot of money on philanthropy and his working dollars. Were key to saving the thanksgiving parade when we almost lost it but shifting buying habits and tastes among other things. Put it out of business. The founder sold the company in two thousand seventeen. He passed in twenty eighteen and the company ended up in bankruptcy soon. After with its parts being sold off through the process. Many of the stores ended up as loves furniture locations. A new chain. That's had its own troubles as of late. However the van elslander family has reacquired the rights to the art van furniture. Name i six million dollars. There's no word on what they plan to do with it. Though when art van elslander sold art van it had more than one hundred stores and thirty seven hundred employees. Remember how on a friday episode of the podcast engineer randy talked about guy. Fieri is flavored hound ghost kitchens and how they're coming to mccomb county. Well there are a couple more heading to metro detroit ghost kitchens utilize already existing restaurants or commissaries to make the delivery orders alongside their in house menu. We mentioned surly heights already. That'll be house at the brio. Italian grill up there. The two new ones are at bravo. Italian kitchens in livonia on haggerty and in rochester hills. Adams road lavonia is now open and the other will be in the coming. Joining me. virtually is karen davis. Welcome back to daly detroit. Happy to be with you. So we've got a new place to check out out in mccomb county and i know just from listeners. From the social. Buzz people are excited about the arrival of portillo's midwest tastes sensation rick. How much excitement in bosnia is around having this place and of chicago mainstay. That's come finally to state of michigan yet. You know and not all chicago. Mainstays have done. Well i mean we all remember the giordano's in downtown detroit. That didn't last very long. But i've got a different feeling about this one because a it's it's bigger be. I mean if you've never had one of those sandwiches it's one of those things that like it goes along with chicago. It's kind of like a real signature thing. Yeah and i think they did a good job understanding both the marketplace. They've tried to localize a little bit. More than maybe your average. So they have some signs like the burners known but they also understand that they're going to have to look at do the things they serve. Make sense in this market and i'm going to say. Do i think enough of us in chicago. Dog that we appreciate it its quirkiness but also you can't beat the italian beef sandwiches. They're really a little bit step above. I would say just because. I got to sample on yesterday. I've had an italian beef a few times in chicago at portillo's and it is something that has definitely unique stands out. Let's get into the details. Specifically where is this place. How big is it because you actually had the chance to go and take a look and get inside yeah. They had like a media preview which is unusual and exciting in of itself. That they brought in the founder's son. Miche portillo was in town to help launch this media introduction and it was great to see it in person because it's a standalone restaurant. It's not of strip center. It has a sizeable interior. Which also i think makes it fun to go to because it has kind of cafeteria style but then you can sit at the tables and linger maybe go get refills. So it isn't a fast casual. I would call it somewhere between a traditional restaurant and a grab and go kind of eating experience. So i think people are gonna really like it. It's a little bit of a sensory overload because it is huge but it tries to be unique enough that i think you could make almost like a special occasion stop when you're out by lakeside mall. It's in that inner circle awful tall road so it makes it a little less hectic to get to as well so it's really seems from what you're describing is a destination not kind of like you know how there's a bunch of like taco bells and burger kings everywhere. Feels like i really wanna portillo's chicago's just you know four. And a half five hours away this way. I can just head up to near lakeside mall. And and get my fix. Yeah they have a fairly small expansion over the years that they've gone and built other restaurants. There's about sixty total in the whole country in eight different states. So it's a rarity in some ways when you look at how fast other chains expand so. I think they're taking their time. They're trying to do it right but also you have this idea that if they're gonna come here they want to have it be an experience so they took the time to find out. What are the things that we like. So we like verners okay. Let's put up some of that on our decor and then let's make it where it's a big friendly entrance and and has a good sized parking lot so you don't feel the hectic nece you do feel like you're coming to a formal restaurant even though it's somewhat at grabbing goal experience like you're gonna come in and order from cafeteria style entrance then you could see it made in front of you as well so you kind of have that. That's a little bit different than your traditional fast casual so a lot of different elements that i think we haven't seen here and they also did something kind of fun. There's that officially named halo sculpture there on hall road. I heard something about them. Renaming it for a day. But i feel like they could do a lot more than just rename it. I mean this is an opportunity that if i were in the company's marketing department i would take a hard look at is you have that infamous hall road ring that gets made fun of across social media and just in general and why not turn it into something that might be a kind of like corporate landmark. I don't know that the city's looking that sterling heights is probably thinking. The golden corridor deserves. Its own monument. But i think you could get away with turn that into an onion ring. And i think it would be well. Appreciated not only make you hungry and think about stopping there to eat. But it's something that's going to be a talker. You need a landmark in a city. That really doesn't have a solid downtown. Let's say you know. I saw a historical photo. Was it yesterday or the day before of braise hamburgers back in the day before it had the zeon the end you know the one with the donkey and hazel park. That's the kind of thing that people remember and adds kind of genesis of panache to a place that like. Oh i'm going to go to the place with the donkey or go with the giant rang. Or you know there's a coffee shop or one of the many now in capital park but one of the one who's been around a while urban bean it's in that cool modern spacer. They're renovating right now. Because of the pandemic. But i always look at that thing and i go missing a giant coffee cup on the top like the origin. Story or j.lo's is dick. Portillo started a hotdog stand. He had been a marine and he kinda taken odd jobs around chicago when he looked around and thought i could do a food cart and so he to make his food cart standout in the mean streets in chicago. He shaped like a dog house. has it was hot. Docs and his hot dogs. Who are good at first so he had to do something to kind of step that up so then he did a big Culinary tour got to know shafts and really brought all these different foods into this level of culinary experience that now they could expand and grow like they are now so yeah having this symbolic doghouse shaped original building or trailer because it was kind of a a temporary food cart feel led to these permanent restaurants. Will why not bring luebbe that back right with. Maybe we can't do the doghouse shape. But how about a giant dog or like we mentioned that giant onion. Ring those things again. I think our throwbacks. And if you've got a restaurant like portillo's opened in nineteen sixty three. The has a little bit of history to it. Yeah let's throw a donkey on the top of the ways that we see it from the road and instantly gets salivating. Those are important moments especially in a food town like detroit. I gotta ask you about the food Did you have a chance to try. The chicago style. Hot dog not yesterday only because it was a limited window. So i had one of the italian be sandwiches but i am a big fan of chicago. Dogs have family members that live in chicago area. So i love them. So that'll be my second try. I definitely go back. Let's put it that way because they have enough variety on the menu that i think this is multiple. Stop type place like they've got a really good looking fish sandwich. So if you are going to traditional fish fry maybe used cruise through their drive through and try something like that and then again. The chicago dogs. They got hamburgers. They've got chicken even have salads. Believe it or not so and then supposedly this chocolate cake is something that has to be tried to be completely honest. I've had people bragging rave about that. So this is a kind of joint once again. I think i will be making multiple trips just to see what it's like and give them a chance. So i think they're smartly diversified enough in their food that i think they could get people to see what each different part of their day and even like evening meals might feel like why. I think that was part of the challenge with deer. Domino's in downtown detroit was it was just one thing like it was basically all variations on one theme whereas like this patillo. It sounds like there's more stuff. I did want to mention for listeners. In case they were not familiar. The chicago style hot dog. The portillo's dog is quite different than you think of. As far as coney for one it's basically loaded with like veggies and stuff. I'll i'll go through the list really quick for our listeners. You got mustard. Relish celery salt chopped onions sliced tomatoes pickles spirit and sport peppers to the lot. Yeah i mean and it's bright. Green relish usually and that celery salt really changes the flavor. I mean if you're thinking like detroit coney dog and that kind of dog flavor. This is like you say it's almost like having a salad on top of a hot dog. That is a very different experience. The same thing with the different kinds of peppers. They'll throw on their italian beef without a beautiful french. Bagga kind of french bread. And then you can have a dipped you know fully put into the ju- like you say with the hot dog and the sandwich you can change it up to taste different depending on what. You're feeling like that day. If you're on a diet maybe not go there that day. You can change it up enough to make yourself feel a little more justified. So they're chicago. Style definitely fits our style in a way and Is this place open. Our was kind of a preview. What's the what's the status. Yeah this is a preview. They're going to stop to open in about two weeks so like that week of march eighth is soft open week and then march sixteenth. It's go Weather dependent. I think on them being able to do like they have a little food cart. They'll they'll take around the community to celebrate openings so have to see if we get another big storm because that was a hope for activity in the weeks before they open just to get their name out in the community but they are full bore trying to make this big success. So i think you're gonna see them hanging around and doing some more activities in metro detroit. At least i saw the renderings large kind garage style doors which might be really helpful considering where at the you know this last third of the pandemic here people wanting a little bit more of an outdoor space when it warms up. That could be a lot of fun. Yeah that's something. I think they did really well with the interior yes. It's a traditional. Let's hang cars from the ceiling style. Interior so get that vibe going right. Quick when you walk in you'll see all different signs and things that remind you that you're in detroit but it has huge banks of windows and a big open floor space so it definitely has a good made for post twenty twenty world vibe to it that i think people will appreciate huge tall ceilings. It feels very industrial factory. Like so i think they made some good decisions as they were doing. Design work on this particular location. Well karen thank you so much for your time. You can follow. Karen on twitter at karen davis there's also karen diva's dot com because she's written a whole bunch of things and you should buy them. Yeah i love food. I love writing about smooth. So yeah more stories like this. Let's bring you new restaurants a quick reminder that our podcast is powered in large part by the support of our members. If you get value out of what we're doing want us to do more. 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DNB: The Coronation of Joe Biden, Normalizing The Purge, & The Curious Change In PCR Test Recommendations

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DNB: The Coronation of Joe Biden, Normalizing The Purge, & The Curious Change In PCR Test Recommendations

"Welcome to the drivetime thirty minutes patrons. Jam packed with news of the day from a perspective of truth. Liberty and justice is monica perez brinkley. Our top story. It's the first full day of president. Quote biden's ministration and he takes. Am at undoing. Everything trump did and then some so here. We have the pendulum swing. This is what i always thought. That trump is that he was it wasn't that he was pulling the pendulum back. It more like he was drawing back the arrow but then it would let fly and in particular i always thought it was about globalism but literally in the opening article today of the wall street journal talking about how biden normally a new president as one executive order at the most he did fifteen executive orders to executive actions yesterday and expressly said that it was designed to undo everything trump had done. And for me. That's your classic problem. Reaction solution kind of operation. And i i can tell you the specifics. But that's my overall feeling about. Yeah absolutely he's make trying to make that stamp on at first day with the new administration is going to be like. This is how this operates is going to be run from here on out because normally see an empathy and respect is now in the office that is true but there's also meat on the bones. It's not just optical. I think is in one think i had asked. Yesterday i tweeted. I'm actually about halfway through the answers. I don't think i've ever. I know i've never gotten this many responses this fast but i said what are three things that you liked about. What trump did. I'll tell you more about it. In the patron fifteen big part was exposing the media. Like that is. I'll tell you details about that afterwards. And what i think about that. But as far as the specifics they talked about defunding the world health organization people like that about trump. They really liked that. He exited the paris accord. That was one of the things they like the most about about what he did. His t regulation. That was something that was a big plus for what trump had done the wall the muslim ban and as i read through the executive orders from biden they literally had most. If not all of those items so there he's going to cease the withdrawal from the world health organization. He's rejoining the paris accord he's he's having his regulators identify hundred three different trump actions that they're going to reconsider they've already revoked. The keystone excel pipeline permit. He is stopping the wall. He reverse the travel ban from certain muslim countries. And the one thing that every president does on the first day of office. If there's a change in party is reverse the mexico city rule which is about guess. Foreign government agent our foreign work allowing portion paying for abortion so he allows it republicans. Don't allow it but but is this to over arching things about the executive orders. I think is important one. Is that look at how that is one. The executive orders are temporary. They're not lasting so you can't really consider it an administrative success. If and i remember in physical someone said that they the real success. The real measure of your success as a leader is not how you leave the company but what the company looks like a couple of years after you're gone so if you haven't really set it up to be what your vision was right. Your strategy was. You haven't really contributed to the company and that kind of way and i felt like that but also it points out. Why weird power. The president has to do this kind of stuff. And and i believe executive orders are just aren't in the constitution and the executive executes the laws of the legislature and. That's why when. I was thinking about it this way. I realized that carmela is actually much more powerful than biden. Right now were would be if constitute if our constitution. Actually he delineated the rolls. These people have because she is the top legislator in the country now the most important later in the country in that she will she will cast the tiebreaking vote in the senate and biden really. Shouldn't have these kind of powers and her power will be lasting. They featured her sitting at the head of the senate a lot today in the news showing her new position of power and she looks like she's rattling in it to me and she was wearing purple at the inauguration which would so much more felt so much more like a coronation to me. As i mentioned there was a really strange carnation definitely. It was weird. But i know one thing i wanted to as far as that like the vibe of that what trump what biden said in his speech and i know you have more on the speech but the thing that stood out to me is that he does a quote. I read in the journal. We must end this uncivil war that pits against blue rural versus urban and conservative versus liberal. And it was so interesting to be conservative versus liberal red versus blue. That's the same thing we get it. Yada yada that's always the way it is but he didn't say black against white or rich against poor he said rural versus urban and i have identified that for the longest time and i ever since we talked is age farmer. I'm one hundred percent convinced. That is not the second amendment at that goes. People are second amendment. Those people exercise our second amendment in real way. And that's going to be hard to overturn. Because they have the guns they use it for self defense there ranchers. They protect their property from animals instead of like they really need their guns. And that's you know what part of the culture that this country was built on. Allah patrick henry the fact that they can impart us this cultural this individual autonomy by growing food. I mean i just. I cannot emphasize enough how they are the real target of the trump. Sign up in my opinion and i think biden's words really confirmed that for me what's up guys with such uncertainty in the world right now. The best way to have true security is by growing your own food and feed and seed in smyrna georgia. They got you covered the offer garden. Supplies vegetable plants chickenfeed bird feed farm. Supply everything gardner. Farm needs even host a farmer's market on saturdays from ten. Am to four pm and right now propaganda report listeners. Only they're offering ten percent of all online purchases neighbor speed and seed dot com just type in coupon code propped up on checkout. And if you have any questions give them a call at six seven eight six five three eight. Three eight yeah. There were a few other executive orders of note. Did you cover the mask mandate executive no. I didn't go for it. Yeah he he signed a federal order requiring mask on federal property nationwide and social distancing mandate on federal land in federal buildings and for federal employees and contractors and he set up covert office is going to report directly to him as well and and i think airlines and trains and travel is interstate yet is going to have that end. When i found notable is that he wants to work with states to bring those kind of policies to the state level that the fed. Can't do directly yeah. He encouraged to states to follow in his footsteps. So we'll see if that happens or not. he also. During his inauguration speech echoed a theme which we then heard echoed all over the media and congress even and that is the theme of attacking and getting rid of this domestic terror threat that is white supremacy now. I don't know anybody who likes white supremacy no one. I don't know a single person that likes white supremacy. The problem is though is what does this definition of white supremacy and we have seen that it tends to be anybody who disagrees with the overall agenda that the people in power right now the media are pushing that they can twist anything you say do into being a white supremacist thing and i want to highlight one. In particular effort that is being taken up in congress to eliminate waste from we rockin video last week where we covered some indivisible talking points for twenty twenty one what they're going to be doing and attacking and getting rid of white supremacy via legislation was one of the themes that they had and here we have today. We have house oversight committee. Chairwoman request f. b. i. Probe of parlor including its role in capital siege representative caroline. Maloney of new york says. She's planning to launch an investigation into the conservatives sites policies ownership and alleged russia ties and her letter to director ray of the fbi. She requested that. The fbi conduct a robust examination of the role that the social media site parlor played in the assault and cluding as a potential facilitator of planning and incitement related to violence as a repository of key evidence posted by users on the site and as a potential conduit for foreign governments who may be financing civil unrest in the united states. So they're saying all the chatter the incitement on the platform. They need to investigate that to see what their role wasn't causing that and they need to investigate other sites as well anything that's right wing conservative and i'm going to point out again. All of these parlor comments are removed. So who's going to have access to it. They're going to have access to the public is not going to have access to it. You can't even delete your tweet if you feel bad about it or whatever they call it when you post something on parlor but she said that this committee is going to be going after similar sites and it's going to be a top priority to learn answers about parlor including its alleged ties to russia. So she's now time to russia now. The reason parlors tied to russia's because it's on a russian owned web services platform called. Dos guard now. That platform has like internet infrastructures. Like the you know the basic bones of the internet. The only reason is on that site is because it got kicked off of everything else and that site offers protection against cyber attacks and maloney made it clear that studying parlors going to be the top priority of this oversight investigative panel of this is exactly what their theme is going to be is to go after these right wing or whatever conservative outlets and shut it down because they want to silence speech. John brennan also appeared on. Msnbc to promote a similar theme where he said that we're going to be going after domestic tear included a long list of types of groups that are domestic terrorists one of them being libertarians tyrians white supremacist domestic terrorist according to john brennan who is a communist. That's where we are in. So did he say why because they incite violence a theme inciting violence speech. That's dangerous not protected. There's where your care by your definition because a lot of libertarians define themselves by the non aggression principle by that folds in my mind to this story. I read about the portland. Rioters who damaged ice building. Yesterday it was called the j twenty protest. And it was an anti guess. I don't know if they actually called it antifa. I saw the reports of it. It was a demonstration against biden and police and all that and my my feeling about why they were immediately rolling out is they need to keep the tension up. They need to keep the not my president boo-boys or wherever who there so it's a kind of anarchy anarchy spy versus spy versus like antifa is kind of an anarchist thing. Not in a good way. In my opinion it's probably like a communist type thing but but as if if the government is perceived to not be putting them down because they're intimidated by it or they like what they're after the official government. Then you have the rebels who feel like they are the real heirs to the throne because trump really one and that what they're paying foreign government what they consent. They're not getting because antifa isn't being put down isn't being resisted isn't being countered antifa is Orchestrating is initiating the aggression and all these guys are doing are adhering to principles of self defense and will help others. Who willingly voluntarily ask them to defend themselves but what it actually looks like and really might amount to and i know that people say this a dirty word. It's not necessarily dirty word. But it's vigilantism will keep this undercurrent of stress and violence in the subculture behind the scenes to be trotted out whenever and certainly a steno people feel like they kind of know about it won't necessarily be splashed across the headlines. Might be but it's there for the strategy of tension and a little bit more. Yeah and amping up that strategy of tension from the foreign policy website. This is one of the think tanks. I think it's associated with the council on foreign relations. Put out an article. Titled it's time for justice not healing and gave three lessons from south korea on how the united states needs to move forward with a biden administration. And the first lesson is this. Do not give an inch to the anti democratic forces and they go on to explain how south korea handled it they say having cut their politics and risking their lives battling right wing dictatorships to south korean liberals understood that those who reject democracy are not amenable to civil persuasion. So they can't be persuaded. Right-wingers cannot be persuaded. The biden administration must approach the trumpian legacy with the same level of determination. And it goes on to say that the trump supporters who sacked the capital would sooner abandoned democracy than accept the fact that their leader was on the losing end of the process. If the united states is to remain democracy those anti democratic forces must be defeated. So what are you reading. Those were snippets from an article titled it's time for justice not healing that is on foreign policy dot com right now. The basic idea is that south korea. They had a right wing dictator. They once they got him out. They didn't try to work with them. They radically from the government and iraq that sentiment because that's intimate cannot be persuaded and biden needs to do the same thing so trump housi- is bending this. Yes this recommendations on what who wrote it. Can you see who wrote that article. Ever since getting to know the people and products at true science i have made. Cbc products highly rewarding part of my life for muscle. Rub to body lotion to cbd oil and my absolute favorite gluten-free brownies. I have incorporated. Cbc products in my own approach to personal well-being to find out more about cbc products in general and true science products in particular including their latest offering of dummies. Check out their website request a free personal consultation at true him. Science dot com slash prop. Report is a guy name s nathan park green guy. But it doesn't sound. I was wondering if it was somebody like tony. Blair somebody big. Who is really had the authority to make recommendations this an attorney at a washington dc based firm and an expert in east asian politics and economy in the second lesson he says from south korea is to recognized that the structural forces that gave rise to this moment to recognize what they are and to dismantle them and the united states version of this. Let's talk about that. Is trump years in the conservative media. Sphere that thrived and disinformation. Yeah so this is where everybody who doesn't recognize the true nature of of the forces. That are shaping our world today. Lose me libertarian podcasts. I like that when they start trying to figure out the psycho social dimension of why people from this desperate place are reverting to tribalism or whatever. I just cannot deal with it. Because we've seen the plotting over time how they mean to create the identity politics so that it can be tribal rather than ideological so that both sides battle for the same ideology just to be bestowed the benefits on their group in which case as soon as the changing of the guard happens. The other group gets the value and no justices dante. Either side. So i cannot stay on that so obvious. That wouldn't you see that as soon as the other groups in power they just. They completely contradict what they were. Just saying right. Before they came to power the rules apply to write to everybody else but not us so sad way the he he said that those right wing forces need to be marginalized into relevance by any legal means possible and then his third lesson is to do not flinch at the accusations of partisanship or infringement on freedom. Don't flinch it those. Wow that's basically what i was just saying you're just gonna flip the thing and is going to have justice and he's like that's fine because we're on top now. Which reminds me when. I talk about this. I've mentioned this conversation had numerous times. I'm sure people remember when trump first took office and i was in the presence of son. Miche super liberal successful lawyer guy that everybody was worshiping and he was saying how it is the job of the gop lee to get those trumpian in line. No matter what. It's outrageous. And i said so. You don't believe in democracy anymore and he said basically yeah. I don't i heard tucker carlson. Save the almost exact same thing. Two nights ago he was saying how it is the job of moderate democrats to rein in those fringy socialists. In the party right now. I don't care. We're willing to cross the aisle and work with moderate democrats. It's like really that's bad. This is a guy who says he only votes democrat by the way in some little hidden video or on not talked about video. Let's say it's not really hidden by that. The the idea is the same. I mean you just see these themes rolling out each time. The schisms the dysfunction but always we march towards centralization globalization. I mean that is what's happening is a way around it so landau by the way well. Anyway let's change gears a little bit I thought it was funny. Something you said about the this secret message in the white house. Oh yeah there is. Apparently on the back end of the white house website. You know if you click around by accident. Hit like control something. It'll show the the kind of the coding on the back end website within the back of the website on the white house's pages is a new message secret message exist. that says. If you're reading this we need your help building back better. Oh that is actually really interesting. So they're asking hackers or coders to join the fight right. That's exactly what it seems like because always somebody who is either. Does it by accident or knows how to do that. Is going to see it. And the fact that. It's the bill back better thing kind of folds into a saying the other day about. Tim cook's like let's get underprivileged children of color coding and coding what else mcdowell would say the the future virtual prison but the build back better is part of that that actual phrase i think is very specific absolutely. That's not done a lot of research on him. Since then which i i'm not gonna bring it all right now because it. It's pretty extraordinary stuff. But he's been pushing this one world language of coding more important than any spoken language for years now. This is his central message that he delivers he's been advocating for having children learn coding from grade school. All the way up for at least half a decade or so and yeah it is going to be a little bit of digital slave. But there's also the angle of the people who create all these bots and create. Who get involved in this computational propaganda which is what in the digital verse when you create all this. Ai that infiltrates people's programs and stuff. These are this is who makes the coders code this they make this stuff so he's creating an army he's even called it an army of coders but he's creating an army of people who could use to create bots. Ai that could just like you've talked about before they can create a false reality. Someone thinks communicating with a bunch of different people but they're all actually some personalized specialized bots. He's creating army of children. That could create things like that. I think that things like that are higher level. I think that children are for the stuff that mcdowell is talking about. I think the children are there to build like this vast world. But that's that that stuff is the stuff that like. The google bird's feather people are building so is it would it be comparative to the the workers who are building the buildings in the streets. It's like differ play minecraft. I seen people play it. The kids are actually doing a building. The world yeah. I mean not in. I don't think it's actually minecraft gabon like pokemon go. It was like just playing it builds. It yeah yeah playing it. Populates the virtual world with digitized environments right. So they're they're it'd being enslaved in that they're just they're the they're the workers on just the bricklayers. Yeah they're not the form and you're talking about the four men and you and you that has been going on in this book. I'm reading for like sixty years. Something crazy like that that they've been ah since before vietnam they've been that exact stuff is what the military invented computers to do. 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That is true but for us to adopt european grocery stores that kinda just stars crazy but anyway so we have the algae and they are giving people paid time to go get the vaccination but also to dollar two hours worth of pay per shot. And i feel like I understand they don't want to mandate by. That's quite a responsibility. That's quite responsibility to tell people to do that. I remember i. I said semi how they're gonna feel somebody dies saying. Yeah like my mom's like never recommend drugs to people like pharmaceuticals they. They could hurt them. Like oh okay so you don't want to be responsible for that. Yeah it's kind of crazy and they're doing it so and others others will follow. I wonder what the demographic of people who work at all. D is i wonder what percentage of them are in that vulnerable demographic. It's what you're what you're saying is making me. Think just like my friend. Who's a nurse's aid getting it and all the people the front lines. It's not so much that it's the health demo that is obvious to me. It's the it's the economic demo. People are not going to have to do it if you if you have a brain job you can zoom but if you're manual labor those people stocking in the shells are probably don't have a lot. I've as many options for other employment. That's crazy is a matter of time started paying surprised that they didn't start offering that like. I'm surprised that wasn't part of biden's pitched that it will pay you to take vaccine. If i'm i wouldn't be surprised if that comes but i did see more of what you were talking about. Was it yesterday about changing the pcr. That just cracks me up. I saw somebody. I re tweeted it an article that said that the world health organization is recommending not one positive test but to plus symptoms before. You get a positive diagnosis and to me. This could not be more in lockstep with the rollout of the vaccine. If that just could not be more in my mind the timing of it is is undeniable. And i read the world health organization the info and i read some of the stuff on the cdc page to. It's the language uses a little hard to understand the medical terminology but it seems to me that yes that you're going to have to be focused got to be a lot more requirements before you are officially labelled kovin positive and it appears that they'll be changing the way they analyze the threshold side analyze the task meeting lower threshold cycle. Because of the concern over false positives which we've been saying for months. Although few months ago you could get kicked off of the platform. You're getting trouble conspiracy theories everything that has happened. The past year has been based on the results of those faulty tests. The faulty results of a faulty tests lease away. They analyze the test. The billions of dollars spent the shut down the facemask. Everything vaccine all of it. Based on that and i would go further and say now. I read another article that said in china. There's a resurgence of covid. They're seeing the new strain there returning to germany and measures so not only did that whole case democ thing highly manipulated stimulate all those policies. The policies themselves made absolutely no difference. It feels like cold and flu. Season happens it happened that it happened last year. It's going to happen this year. And they're an. I mean you can just look at the example of california and maybe new york don't pay as much attention to newark. California's had the most draconian rules and now experiencing the greatest resurgence try. China also had the most we were supposed to pivot to totalitarian technocracy because of china's example in radical covert when cold and flu season rolls around. guess what. They're getting colds and flus. Absolutely my question is this had this new testing threshold of the way. They're they're determined. What a positive cases had this been in place from the very beginning would we even be a pandemic. my guess is probably not with any of these measures be necessary. Probably not what are we vaccinating for. Why are we not waiting to see how the cases roll out under these new measuring standards to continue the vaccination the vaccination still the push continues despite the cdc the world health organization quietly adjusting the way the virus tests unbelievable in that. Same vein. A doctor from america's frontline doctors. This is a group of doctors that challenge dacoven prevention strategy on the capital. They got a lot of coverage. Your called disinformation dr simeon goal. This was a female doctor. She was arrested during. She was arrested yesterday. At due to her role in the connection with the insurrection january six according to the criminal complaint filed against her federal authorities were tipped off by the pair by her attendance by the washington. Post article in washington posted an article about her so the fbi start investigating because she attended the article. Not the article attended the capital. Sixth rally and then it kind of vaguely says she might have been inside but to arrest someone on a washington post article because she was at the rally seems like targeted. I i don't hurt. Her story is. I never looked into her story. As i've been reading in tweeting articles that i've read it people who have gotten arrested. I mean at least ten of them seem absolutely to me. Nine hundred of them have where the person either was working for the government or was in trouble with the government. it's just there's an their stories. They their facebook post whatever seemed to announce these intentions and these actions that we really didn't see evidence of at the time. So they're the a lotta. These people were getting arrested. Our validating i consider to be a false narrative. I don't know about her in particular. And i don't know what her role was. I remember hearing about it. But i never dug into it about the covert so i mean some people are for sure legit and they're going to be abused i. It's hard to sift out these stories. I feel will. The washington post sought her out fern interview. And they they. This is what the f. b. i. Arrested her for biz. Because she with wando so the washington post set her up and not to mention. It makes you not want to tell your story. yeah exactly. i didn't want to put out and city. How so the right which is great. That's great we did not do that. So there's all of these journalists who are also attending the rally. Mind you hi. Random people to interview and then taking these interviews and saying hey. Fbi wants you check out. That article got someone you might want to look. I mean this is unbelievable. It's mentioned things like attending it or posting stuff or whatever is not or breaking curfew like the things that are getting arrested for. This is why. I can't stand stuff like hate speech crimes and all those kind of things that it. It doesn't matter you have to have a criminal act and the intent to commit that act. That's what justifies an arrest. These kinds of aunts larry even conspiracy in itself to me. Isn't real resisting. Arrests like these are not underlying crimes. So i don't i i would get rid of all of that stuff. I mean that to me is also red flag that there's nothing real there and and that is i think a real into our civil rights starting to be more and more like minority report. Always say that a lot that programming but when you can classify groups as terrorists and you can violate their rights. Yes of course the slippery slope from gitmo and everything else. I fought that fight against republicans. That's why i don't have that much sympathy. I'm like i told you and defend the constitution. I could have any grants to stand on and the patriot. Fifteen hour to tell you something of interest to you. 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My All-Time Personal Favorite Episodes out of 200 IMPACT SHOWS | Ep. 200

Todd Durkin IMPACT Show

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My All-Time Personal Favorite Episodes out of 200 IMPACT SHOWS | Ep. 200

"Welcome back to another episode of the toddler in impact show and this is not just another episode. This is the two hundred episode of the show. We got strobe lights on. We have an absolute party. Such a party. I and my wife melanie melanie. What's up. I know you better invite me to your parties. Let's go and i've got julie wilcox here as well. Hello hello everyone. Behind the scenes. Julie has been a part of all two hundred episodes and man. We're going to have a party today. No doubt about it. we're gonna have some fun. We wanna reflect upon some of our favorite episodes some of our not-so-famous episodes some of the hardest one of the easiest ones and a look back at some of the favorite ones and this is going to be rapid fire. We're gonna go around around the horn and maybe look at one or two each of the episodes so it's so good to have you guys as part of the two hundredth episode of the impact. Show awesome to be heard. It's unbelievable before we go there. I won't say huge. Thank you to all of you for listening whether it be. This is your first one or whether this is your two hundred dewitt. Anyone who's listened to all two hundred episodes if you do. I wanna know hit me up that. Td i've listened to all two hundred and let me tell you what i've listened to like in snow sleet ice rain workouts. You name it. I want to hear some crazy stories. If you have any crazy stories please message me you can or you can just go to twitter dot com. Look for the impact. Show podcast little section there and let me know you're crazy stories but thank you for your five star ratings. All of your reviews. They really help. I didn't think. August nineteenth two thousand nineteen is our first episode august nineteen thousand nineteen. We are rapidly approaching our two year anniversary. I feel like it's been like five years eh. It's only not even two years two years. i know. Actually you're right. It's a long two years but august. Nineteen two thousand nineteen is when we started. And we're coming up on that birthday here soon so we will have a birthday party coming up here in august nineteenth of this year as well without further ado. Let's look back on our favorite episodes Here over the last two hundred episodes man. that's a lot of episodes. It's a ton but hey before we start with got todd i would love to know what your easiest episode was easiest. That's going to be easy easiest episode easiest well none of them are easy but some of the ones that are more enjoyable when we look back on easiest episodes in what we're doing With the show when you think back on easiest episodes man i would say the easiest ones wayne cotton because i asked him one question any way out to you episode episodes. I asked wayne. I love you so check was the easiest episode ever and let me tell you how is taking notes in my own episode of like. He's just dropping bombs again. So i'd say wayne cotton. Tom house timeout. Same things because time was i again. I've known tom he's been a mentor of mine. Since the late s same thing. I asked tom a couple of questions about training. Next thing i know he's going off into this tangent. So deep and i was laughing this i was dying and he was easy. 'cause i have such a great report with tom and it was awesome. Also gerald mccoy gerald so funny funny. I journal mccoy i mean when he eventually hangs up his cleats in the nfl. He's going to have a well. He's got a future in podcasting. Microphone in front of hamra exact run of him. So i don't know of you though. Just come to mind like the easiest ones. Yeah what about the heart stone ones are one. Do you have an episode. Turn around folks. We find it completely different. I haven't talked about that. It's interesting to was there any that. Yeah it was the hardest one. Y'all gonna laugh at this. Was the one with our kids and you on thanksgiving couple years ago when folks were around the dining room table doing an episode. I got zack. At the house shooting shooting the impact show and lucan brady are egging on each other. I don't like the ever. An eighty shows a mistake and lucan brady. Were being just little turn. They know they were trying to make each other laugh and they had it all planned out and they reality is when you ask us to be on your podcast which you have done a couple of times the family has has jumped on with you and there's really only one that really wants to do. I mean not that. I don't want to do but lucan i usually like. Oh you have to convince us a little bit and even mckenna nowadays. But brady's always the one that will definitely on and wants to talk about everything. So yeah you had to course the mall a little bit to be on that podcasting and lucan rare feat. They thought they would have a little bit. Did i have to stop that. One and get on their cases. I believe and we had the stop and retake. Yeah i had lay them a little weapon of like y'all get your mind right choice yet. Daddy daddy durkan is gonna come down on your heart right so anyway that was probably one of my hardest or at least more frustrating ones. Believe it or not. It's like my family. Like oh nice family and just throwing threats hanging over them i did. This is a come. To jesus moment two hundred episodes. How and i know you've listened to a lot of them. How how many have you truly honestly listened to. I swear to you i have listen. Everyone i love how i yes i listen. It's just it's i mean i i love to listen to podcast so i don't only listen to your gut but yeah no. I listened because whenever. I hear you sit around getting the for juice on the two hundred. I'm working or i'm driving. Signed by your usually non around me for like thirty and it is kind of weird to listen to your husband one he. He's when he's not around. But i just find it interesting. I wanna i hear about them. I mean i. I do help you with editing of when you're doing your show notes and i typically am you know part of that and so i i know what's coming up with the week and so i usually. I always curious here fled. I must admit that the that are the most difficult is if i had been in. I listening to myself as i almost have to kind of force so you listen to this one over. I would probably. It might take me like all. Only if melanie some love because anniversary i was like. Oh gosh i i was hanging over my head. I didn't listen to that for like two weeks. And then i finally went and listened to how i did not even know that you have listened to two hundred only absolutely julie. How about you. How many will you listen. He's like always listening to these. So now what about you i. I don't even know the answer to this. Do you go back and listen to the podcast or do you produce it. You create it but you go back and listen to no no. No no yeah. 'cause you're you're you. I think that it's a common thing. You don't like to listen to yourself or see yourself. There's said that was a couple things. There's a couple of things. I put a lot of time on the front end of preparing. So i actually listened. I kind of like visualized kind of how the show is going to go. At least i how. I hope it's going to go doesn't go the way i think it's going go But it's there's so much work on these podcast like one i'm done. Yeah you're right. I don't have the time to go back and listen ran. Typically when listen to podcasts out for walker job run lifting weights. Whatever i'm doing is. I'm listening to someone else's podcast so i don't listen to myself. Yeah in that. So honestly Julie doesn't amazing job in our team does an amazing job And i just shared on one ninety nine. Obviously the lessons learned in the importance of a team in this is like i count on my team to to make sure that this thing is produced at the quality. My job is to create the best content. I did early on like listen to like zacks Opener and i'm like we need a stronger opener. We need to like. Fire him up. And that's i in the beginning. I listened to that more from the production standpoint but once i have done an interview. It's time to move onto the next interview. And i got to try to stay as a juicy at least a few weeks ahead. I wish it was a few months ahead. But i like to very in the moment unfortunately for them and my team But no i. It's onto the next one good question interesting. That is a good question for me when we're live. I'm here so i hear it and then i'd go back and listen to it again so sometimes i'm listening to twice. If you haven't listened to episode one go back lessons. Learned because as mentioned each episode by the team is about five to eight hours per episode That we're sharing to really create a a quality content but without further ado we gotta hop into today's episode and the content itself are pop favourite episodes of the two hundred episodes melanie. I'm gonna start with you. Maybe wanted to to to you. I mean i have more than that. But i i had to i. I'm gonna start with episode fifty six. Do remember what episode fifty six former college. Qb sentenced to life in prison coffee. Bean ma'am damian. Last day and that was such a great story. It was so fun to hear you interview him because i had heard a podcast with him before We had had dinner with him. I think like two nights before you did that. Interview the podcast. That main is such a storyteller. He is so interesting. An animated. And i i just remember just sitting even at dinner and just everybody around. The tables jaw was just kind of dropped. Daimler has story after story and to put that together on your show that was just so it's just the craziest story ever yet damon special man I'll tell you like when i first heard of. It was do john. Gordon and john at damon west they partnered together because of a connection through dabo sweeney at clemson and then alabama but damon. Who was a college quarterback. Got hooked on drugs became a thug. Got life in prison in texas folks. If you haven't listened to it for these things go back to one but damon because of just incredible behavior and service while in the texas state penitentiary was released after only seven and a half years in prison and then when he came out is when he somehow miraculously bhai by by the grace of god hooked up with john. Gordon johnson. i wanna write a book with you. That's called the coffee bean. Then last february february twenty twenty right before the pandemic. I invited john to be the guest speaker at the toddler and mastermind retreat. He ends up being a speaker at the retreat. Lie that's when we had dinner and damon. I become very good friends and he went back out. He's coming back out. Yes as we record this guys. We're just days before father's day so he is actually small world he's doing the service for passer jeremiah. On father's day why because pasture jay was in the back of the room act alive. Retreat was back. My whole you've got to be in the room. Pastor jay is in that room. Here's the damon. wests A whole testimony and what he got through and went through and everything else. Passer j. invited damon to be the guest Presenter at the father's day's sermon coming up this sunday so look back on that folks. Italy already have happened by the time you listen to the show but we are having a dinner with damon this coming sunday night again. A great man a great episode. Go back and listen to that. You said one more was her or any any thoughts about damon west. I love damon. That was one of my favorites. Yeah like you said an incredible storyteller. And i think just you know some of my favorite episodes and that was one of them as well mel so i won't use that one. Could you stole the okay. Good next one. My second one was way back number. Twenty one of our first ones which was cancer. Sucks a fight for family and life. Sandra dougherty and her Her husband bob their story. And obviously she's a personal friend of ours and We've crossed paths for longtime with our kids and just Just her wisdom and grace and courage and her share on what her family went through And her personal fight and And and she's doing good right now and she's she's she's hanging in there Even though that that was about a year ago wasn't that that was yeah. I'll tell you. Sandra is inspirational. Her stories amazing folks if either you a are fighting cancer or know someone who is fighting cancer. Go back to episode twenty. It's called cancer. Sucks a fight for family in life. I must think that episode. I have like kinda referred people to recommend it to like friends. Or i don't know just different data after. We know someone who gets a diagnosis and and it just it is. It's just kind of one of those. Must listen to episodes. If you're she's awesome finding yourself in that in that place. So and sandra has had cancer not once but twice in between lost. Her husband yasser. It's an amazing story. It's emotional but inspirational and I tell you some of my favorite episodes deal with with stories like the sandra's who have overcome an amazing amount of adversity is well. How about you being in the room. That day was sandra. Like melanie said. I mean the one thing that just released its. I'm picturing her right now as she was so graceful and very courageous and And she was nervous she drew member. She was so bad she had of publicly shared her story. The thing with that happened. So too is even i know. Remember back when we did it. We had said there was a part two. And they're they're really still is a part to with with sandra because her amazing wisdom and It just her nutrition got hers fast. Yes oh yeah. I went on a walk with her at during the pandemic and we were just sharing she. She's she's sharing her wisdom about nutrition and eating for health. And i just listen and just i learned so much from her every time she she starts to kind of open up about all that she's learning and practicing and so anyway she's she is one for even to bring about justice survival part after the sad but now she's she's just she's surviving and that's just something she's actively you know every day. Every week you know apparent to the thought for me was oh man. If i lose my spouse. I'm trouble and she has to be a strong woman right when she lost her husband bob to be courageous for her kids. I'm like man mel. Don't go anywhere cause trouble. So if you're parents would you say she said i'd be in trouble. We sandra back for part. So your favorites. Where's the quarterback sas imprison now creating massive impact and cancer sucks a fight for family and life. Good good reasons. Why inspirational stories julie. How about yourself. How man top. Well as mel. I mean. I'm a sucker for happy endings. And there's been a lot of episodes in stories that have come from the heart and soul and where people really really overcome major adversity so Like mall. I thought of sandra and also Damon but one of my very favorites was number thirty and that was with jeff bristol overcoming addictions and rising to the top and. His story is so incredible. I'll never forget the day i met him. I'll never forget the day that he had his wife called me and said he's we've gotta check in rehab. He's he's using again. I mean this guy should not be alive right. I everything from just all the himself being in jail himself just Battling drug addiction and just really not knowing how to get out of it But then something clicked and it clicked here so todd. You're a great mentor for him. And have been. And i think being part of the fitness quest ten family and having a purpose and really seen his future ahead of them and not looking back really wasn't overcoming story so i just that was absolutely one of my favorites and still is. Yeah a great share for anyone. Sure your kid and young how you know. I don't know One of the fun things about that is to be reminded of where he came from. Because now you look at him and he's just the believable and you know such a hard worker a front desk right director of first impressions. Yeah employees know teammate. And now he's just you know killing it on the trading floor. Just he can work out he can work out with anyone he so confidently not so much about finished got his certifications and learn so much now obviously with even general one thing interesting about that. Is that ryan. Rogers was going to pay for his certification and then he went back in to a rehab facility. I forgot he added in so ryan invested in him But the other thing about jeff is one thing that struck me from the very very moment i met him. I actually heard his voice. I heard him talking at the front desk. He walked in off the street. I was in my office. I think a meeting and i literally was listening to the conversation that he was having with the director. First impression i sent into interview. Yeah i actually. When he came into inquire stop by meeting went out introduced myself and said we've got to connect my there was just love him a bowl. And yeah i could see that remember. That was a great episode and obviously jeff is a great man and he's grown so much one of the things i think about over the twenty one years of fitness quest. Hannity amazing amount of talent. That's come through here on so many levels in our amazing community here in san diego. I think one of the things that i've enjoyed the most and still do to this day is identifying talent and and seeing something in summoned. When sometimes they don't see something in themselves and potential always. I've always enjoyed the process of seeing something in somebody and trying to bring that out in them jeff's a classic example of he was struggling at the time and like several of other former employees. Had a hiccup and where where some people may not give him a second chance. I've always believe in second chances when people get right and jeff's a great example after rehab welcoming back into the q. Ten family As a director first impressions again and then a trainer and gm and now a helping me out on the partnership of fitness quest hand. So that that we can Do great impactful things. In the in the world and fitness quest ten continues to grow but jeff is an amazing story. And if you have not listened what episode was that again never thirty number thirty definitely go back to that once again if you listen all these back to back. I think it'd be crying lot crying in a good way but like were you know. The emotional ones have like just unbelievable stories. And what's interesting. And i've shared this. Not only jeff guys like travis barnes. Who's been on the show before is some of these men and women who've been through tough times initially don't want to share your story. 'cause you're either embarrassed you don't want people to know about it and then all of a sudden you share and all of a sudden like magic happens like this out chad. Richardson richards richards. All of a sudden like you share people start saying oh that was me or my son or daughter or i know someone who that was imprisoned or was using drugs or had cancer this or that and all of a sudden it opens up and it. You don't have to like keeping a secret anymore about who you are some of the stuff that you've been through an opens up this incompletely new world and I love here is one of the things. I love most about This podcast is some of the guests we've had are truly amazing and You had that's that's going yet. One more jewel do. I'll have several. But i'm just gonna share one one that i think really I enjoyed listening to being in the room This is the woman who has really overcome quite a bit. And she's been a guest on our show two times Episode one eighty seven five ways to overcome challenging times beat russian in discover happiness. Enjoy again with dr heidi hanan. Yeah a good good good icy yeah i do. I'm such a sucker for that for those store lawyer. She's amazing have created the the biggest. Wow moment for me on any of the two hundred episodes because you think about like wow moments. Were in the middle of a conversation on our first episode. Number was the first one we did whatever it was because it was right after it was right after the coronado retreat july of february twenty twenty and she shares with me about these suicidal. Id ations mike. What does suicidal idealization. she said. Todd i experienced these and she then recently just shared that those ten months where the darkest ten months of her entire life and we went deep into almost the psychology of of the mind and the emotions and how one get through really dark time. So hiding i ever. Since she's present a live at the mass A few years back in coronado again Has been an amazing contributor to nine the impact show but all of the different movements in Initiation she's behind. She's an amazing woman. No doubt yeah. I'll definitely educate so much about the brain so many degrees and so research underneath her. So yeah personally. And then she gives you her suggestions and you know guide guidance for how to write a healthier brain and and he'll and emotionally and she's just so good so good those were good and you know it's interesting what i think i really liked about this episode to is that i i really. I had no idea that she had gone through. Divorce lost a stepson. Yeah yeah and fought depression. So deep mike she really didn't know how to get out of it and the one thing that stuck in my head that really helped her was. I believe it was a letter from her niece. That helped her kind of woke her up. Yeah i respect. You have goosebumps. Yeah anyway young. Yeah being the person who just write the specific feedback that she needed in that moment. And it just yeah. It was amazing. Because i think everyone relies on a heidi to know all the answers right and to help people and that it doesn't matter how much you know. Academically are many books. You've read or write any classes you've taken. How many degrees you have it. You know it can still can still hit anyone. Yeah i love the fact that you just said it melanie. Is that of all the quote famous athletes who've had these are the people with shows me. We need more women on the show. So can i get out there while. You're walking the dog right now and you're working out today amen. Td call or i know somebody. Because as i just mentioned i love having great guests and we don't just look for quote famous people to be on the show. We look for people with amazing stories backgrounds people who inspire somebody to go on and live with great impact in there so Julie those are two good shares is that is that good for yet. Good for me again. I want to say thank you julie for what you do for. All two hundred episodes folks have a virtual round of applause. Let me hear you very good. Let me go remember. This is a protein shakes. squeezed intakes. Likes her lincoln. Protein shakes are being drank. This is a part of my style. No doubt about it. So i've got a few different ones myself and kind of two categories. Actually i've got my faves in the family. Category and non-family category. So let me start the family category. I because we've actually done several episodes with the family and And i shared some of the ones. I didn't like the family. But actually have some favorite ones with my family and They actually relate manley to thanksgiving blessings with you and the kids melanie. One thirty six and one three seven by the way that was the hardest one but also one of my faves because it was the family at thanksgiving giving gratitude. But i'll say with my mom you know sixty four and sixty five. Why because any any time. I spend with my mom is just so valuable and i always now this dark thought as it whenever been there every time with my mom like. Is this going to be the last tom with my mom. I wonder if this is the last time with my mom and now she lives in orlando florida. So i'm down here. Check this out. Sixty four and sixty five one of them. I did actually sixty five q a coffee. Talk with muffing. can't listen. You can envision this. My mom has like a two bedroom condo in florida and I do this on my phone. Epa was done on my phone. So i just shared on my lessons learned about how important it is that you have good equipment and you know it's gonna cost you between fifteen hundred. You know five thousand dollars. Plus they have the equipment. I did that episode on my phone. And my mom's like i don't get this. I don't understand what we're doing right. So she but here in this episode. My mom's talked about sugar and my mom. This is no joke. Sixteen packets of sugar and a glass of water. I think it's preserved her folks. I said sixteen packets of sugar. Mom like mom. Why are you having sugar. Like i don't like the taste of water from that game. You could do for us you can do it for decades is god bless. You have whatever you want. They don't tell us about her new hobby and she was needlepointing. The get your mind right. She's made like hundred of those index. Still have collectors items. I haven't even given the way i'm after. Give them away here at some point She talks about the when she broke. Wooden-spoon over my. But when i was a kid because i still remember her chasing chasing me around the table. Because i don't even know. I said something back to her. And she's chasing me and literally. She broke a wooden spoon over my butt. And i still got a bruise on my but holly and then and the last thing i share from episode in that episode it was sixty five. Coffee talk was Just the mindset and interesting enough. When i recorded this was in february was in late february. Twenty twenty early march The pandemic was just starting. It was just like. I had to get home. So i could get a flight before they were possibly being cancelled and her whole mantra. Was you gotta keep going in life. You gotta keep going. You gotta keep going. You gotta keep going. You gotta keep going to doubt from a family perspective. I believe may have been my favorite and on the way home. Even though it's episode sixty four Up in the air literally in an aircraft that like thirty five thousand feet faith over fear and the reason i share this is because once again it was on my phone interesting interesting trend. Two of my favorite family will on a phone with nothing fancy. I'm burrowed into the window. Seat does dictating on my phone. That desperate times require desperate measures. Desperate times required desperate measures in Thinking about this pandemic was kicked off. Not knowing what. We're going into. But i said this. How can we look back in a year and say this corona virus that we're facing right now was the best thing that ever happened to me while. I'm not nostradamus. But in march of twenty twenty before it was you know really hit. I'm saying how we look back in. The year should have been a year and a half or two years And then i did. Share also in that episode about self care has got to go up now. I didn't know there was going to be a shutdown. For what i thought would be two to three weeks and then in two to three months and then a year happy sickly but i did share about self care going up the reason why. That's one of my favorites is because they said then i'm looking back. I'm like it's just as ap appropriate today as it was in march of twenty twenty like faith over fear. What are we doing to make sure that we're using faith over fear in that time so those are like my favorite family ones other guys are good and they were both filmed on your on my phone. Yeah you got a good feedback on. That funniest thing was sitting next to one of my old high school friends. Yes yes i know you well. I didn't know that until after the plane landed and she said hey. Todd thanks for the podcast episode cool friend of melanie's i listened to your show. 'cause i listened to your show. I'm like oh my gosh. That was like wow. You're in burrowed into a window seat on southwest airlines with your head with my good good on and i'm like kind of like incognito recording this and i've got some literally right behind me listening in perched up there listening to my podcast episode commodity out part of the non-family wants You know i look at guys two hundred episodes a lot of episodes. I don't even know we got two hundred episodes in like less than two years in the middle of pandemic so again tip of the hat to my entire team like i just shared lessons and that was number one and two about the power team and how The whole team works together. You know zaken and jess and julie and amelie and it's just a team is just incredible. How how they took from a two hundred episodes in less than two years men i. It's incredible and a lot of these. These sharing came during the pandemic but a few of my faves. And i i. I definitely do have a favorite But just a couple of my mind buffalo bills coach. sean mcdermott. That was he was in his basement. During the pandemic of its episode of eighty. Four and sean. Who was a college friend of mine at william. Mary the reason why i say that is we talked about culture and how he changed the culture of the buffalo bills and how he treats men like men and the way he leads is the way he wants to be leading. These ivy. Heart centered leader. And i think that thing that struck me the most about that episode. Was sean talking about when he was a sophomore william mary. I was a senior. And the the reason why he went to fca every thursday night fellowship christian athletes is because he knew that. I would be there. Because i didn't miss. Fca was right after my pops it passed and i always wanted to fica and we would you know we jam out on the songs and el shaddai. El should die. I mean i. I would kissing sorry folks for that for the little song there but i love it. But sean mcdermott always went to fca. Because he knew that i'd be there. And we had a great relationship so He's got a blue collar mentality in. It's no surprise to me why the buffalo bills are having such tremendous success in the nfl. i also think back on twister and that was double one episode one sixty four in one sixty five foe. Cuban hear me talk about quarterback your own health for a long time but twister who battled stage four throat cancer quarterback your own health the infamous legendary twenty six ingredient twister jungle juice. Everyone's like two d i need. I need the ingredients of the twenty six ingredient. Jungle juice twister. Thank you very much for that. And he talked about the mindset of attacking radiation chemotherapy every day. When he was doing that that he would not suffice. He would not succumb and not working on those days that he was going to be cancer and that he has my friends That was back in march. Two thousand twenty one about how he took his own lab. Yes self yeah to expediting my god. They say whatever he was he was. He was racing. The clock unbelievable. Talk about quarterbacking. Your own house. That i've never heard of anybody. Having the ability to do that was just you mentioned in saunders episodes twister again once these people and see if i if you know of somebody that has cancer or you have. Cancer listened to that mascara people were beating. It had the mindset on how to approach it on that it's going to be octane in oxygen for your soul literally On this but twister. I was thinking would i do that. I know what. I actually my dot added over. I'm going somewhere else does that. That's my love i love. I love that guy i love. I love my love. Him and mike chandler love. I love mike's episode is one seventy one and it's called. Ufc fighter might chandler. I'll see you at the top. Why is he could just months before he he Not only fought for the ufc lightweight. Championship of the world. Before that he just become a part of the ufc family because he was with. Bela talk and it was during the pandemic when i was talking on the phone. He's like td you know. Should i go to stay in bella tour. Because i'm the face of ballot or should i go overseas because the money's better or i could take a chance with the of seeing go into the unknown. It's not going to pay as much. But if i do well it's going to pay off and i talked to mike about that. Any took that risk and now he's playing truly at the top of his game right so it was just one of my favorites. I know mike now. For seven years have had the great privilege to train him for a long time. He's a great friend. And i love to see all that he's doing not just in the cage but just in life and how he's thriving and how he's making an impact to literally millions if you don't follow him. An instagram is a must follow. I mean he. He has the mindset of a mind right maniac man my chandler love at episode also sp- rosy In why is that. One of my favorites is because i share in that and darren shares that. Here's a man who has a stuttering problem. Joining the podcast. Wait what wait. So darren sproles. Y'all know the legendary five six hundred ninety pound Soon to be hall of fame running back episode one eighty three and he has a starring problem and he's it. I wanna share my story. Mike marlboro that's what it's all about. It's when you when you're not like so polished and and you want to just get your heart out It's just one of my favorites because of him wanting to share his heart and his soul with that so those are a few my favorites. But i have to like really really good favorites that you haven't mentioned match out to two hundred episodes you work. Although i don't listen to them. I like i do actually have an emotional connection to all of them all of them. I have an emotional connection and I would say this It's a tie between my top two and the top to this I is the one with philip. Oh he was. Yeah yeah was an amazing one. Losing coaching his dad. Mike guys if you listen to you got to listen to if you're a parent or your cheer. Listen to mike gluten curtain. Talk about his son. Philip ville with a two time all american at auburn university football player. I said an all american football player at harvard everything is peaches and cream rainbows and sunshine. It is phillips living the life. He's he's got an altogether had a little taste of coffee in the nfl lights in front of me. He's in this young twenties one bad decision. One bad decision Philip made philip luton in. He made after a party after graduation or after Him being out of school and got into the car after a night of partying with one of his best friends who had been drinking and that best friend got into a serious car. Wreck and philip died and here he is talking. And what do i see. I see myself. I see myself. That's me that mike. Talk and mike luton curtains talking about his son. Miche man one bad decision. That luke brady mechanic makes and that's me talking about my foundation. That's me the luzi. The laci forty-three foundation folks. Look it up be part. That's impact you talk about legacy talking about impact dot what it's all about. That's why i started. The impact show is to find stories like that and again. Although it's it's a very tough time and in some weird way it was aspirational to know that. His father mike. His mission now is to take phillips legacy and to pay it forward. I made all the kids script. Listened to that podcast. I made anyone i train. Listen to and if you listen to that you know you shared that because of the impact that episode one twenty eight one. Twenty eight the legacy of philip luton kirch in On that it was it was no doubt One of my faves and this is kinda crazy. Y'all are going to laugh at me. i'm over two hundred episodes. What the heck's going on here y'all gonna laugh and you're like really. This is your favorite episode. One thirty five a walk with the jersey doc. My boy my boy awoke with the jersey dog You know you're like well. Why would a walk with the jersey. Doug folks once again. I was on my phone. I was on my phone with jersey and Walking up a hill. And i just said you know what i feel re real creative right now and i whip out my phone and on rev started just recording an episode because when i'm with jersey very spiritual time the sun hasn't come up yet i'm walking and talking. I'm listening and i just all of a sudden i started talking and the three things on on that episode of one thirty five is just as applicable now as it was in november nineteen twenty twenty God's timing is always perfect even when you don't understand or you disagree with it. Can i get an amen england. Let me repeat that. God's timing is always perfect even when you don't understand it or you don't agree with it. The second thing i shared in there was where are you putting your faith these days. Now november december twenty twenty was like to me. It was dark days right. Where you putting your faith. It needs to be in the right places. Otherwise you'll fall. Victim to the world of negativity pessimism and darkness and has the light here in june and july. Twenty twenty one is finally coming on. We're seeing it. We still make putting our faith in the right places and then the last aspect of just walking with the jersey dog. And if you remember. I actually shared when he stopped and took a dump yes. I shared it on the episode. Because well i won't even share that but when i pick it up and you know i gotta gotta be a good good dog owner. Everyone pick up the stuff after your kit. You have your kids at your pets. is Where and how do you place your focus on your vision and knowing entrusting that the best is yet to come says. I'm walk in this hill looking forward looking at the vision knowing the best is yet to come. But we're going to have to go through hell and back to get there. It's going to take sacrifice in risk. It's going to have to be moving forward. It's gonna take things that we don't even understand yet again. This is november twenty twenty. But i think most importantly in that episode just walking with the jersey dog and getting spiritual And then having the opportunity share it with you and guess what that was one of the most well received episodes of all of them of me on a walk with jersey dog no fancy lights no parties nothing fancy just me and the phone and going deep inside the soul and share in a walk with the jersey dog so those are my thoughts. Any feedback on any of my faves. Those are my top to walk with the jersey dog. And the philip luton in one as well as our great a little takeaway as we get out that phone of your's more often and jersey dog didn't have this is great at allies money on this. I think the point is. It doesn't always require fancy now at to get down to the depth of it. Could you could have fancy. You could have expensive but if you don't have solar doesn't matter the bottom line. If you have a desire you have a will to create impact. You find ways to get it done so sometimes i need the fancy studio i need the sound baffling machines and the lights and the cameras and all that stuff light strobe doing a great job. Today is is honestly. It's when you have a desire and a will to do something you can find any any way to get it done and when you listen to a lot of these episodes we shared some of our top. Favourite wants to that of two hundred episodes This just goes to show you that. You don't need fancy what you need. Is you need to find great people in your life that you can connect with. And that's one of things. I pride myself in is not only the the connections who you mailed a share on the show but some of the spirit soul that we provide and most importantly your feedback is always guided us. So i just wanted to say again. Thank you To melanie. Of course you for listening to all two hundred. I now and julie from you For listening to all two hundred twice episodes to zach over here who is right now. He's like the control. he's got his headset on. He's the strobe lights. If you're if you're watching it you see the strobe. Listen i mean we got flickering going on all over the studio here and jess jacobson on my team. Who works closely with zach to to make all this happen. A million on my team It takes a team effort and The bottom line is this if it was just me or if it's all five of us all working together if we don't have any listeners and we don't have a show so i wanna say thank you from the bottom of my heart for listening listening today and again. This was your first one subscribed if this was your first. Show the todd impact show. Please subscribe to the show and also if at you're two hundred episode please Continue to share this show. The sharing really helps us. Spread the impact. Spread the positivity and the optimism. Because we've got a great great Plan ahead as well. So any parting words julie or melanie julie. Well it's been fun. Yeah it's been fun And it was so much fun to go back through the list of the two hundred. It was really hard to pick us. I kinda had that female on like what really was spoke to me. So i'm glad we were on the same page mill trying. Yeah congratulations i just i remember when it was. Yeah no you never know where it's going to go and And i think you're just a perfect fit over this definitely people say to me all the time Just how good you are at interviewing and and you know just pull in a great story out of people and putting it all together. Yeah it's so true in a great job and in an honestly put together two hundred just you know all star episodes and that that's a success. I'm proud of you guys. Thank you melanie. Thank you thank you for your sport because some of those were done in the home office in the middle of gene and in the pandemic. And i feel like two hundred episodes. I honestly felt like it was three or four years. I didn't know who less than two. A lot of episodes of folks again. You have a lot of content to ben john. Go back and bend john by promise you it will get you better on that you know what to expect moving forward On this more great shows i will continue bringing great guests with amazing stories. And i always appreciate. If you've got someone in your in your network who you believe would be a great guest on this show inspirational. If you've listened to five ten a hundred two hundred episodes you kind of know our flavor we love. they don't have to be famous. They could be regular people with extraordinary stories. I think you're going to hear more even some spitting fire type episodes because people love this spitfires five minute quick episodes To help get your day started right. I love when i get your questions. i think coming up here on moving forward will also have some specific q. And a. on topics that you ask about. Therefore i need you to ask so. Get in the weeds. Where can i help you best. At least once a month. I liked to have some. Qna's so where do you do that. You can be your questions. Hey thi this is for the podcast or you can just on my website. Tom dot com. Look for the podcast section. And there's a big box you can drop your question. I love to highlight you. I will give you a shout out and and get you on the show. But i love the qna's because i'm specifically helping where you're you're hung up on on fitness or nutrition on recovery on business on on On life right so on that and you can count some more deep thoughts deep thoughts working walk in would jersey Or when a plane interesting that it was with like on a plane or jersey or with my family. Even if i'm like having to stop an episode and and point fingers on this is you'll have more deep thoughts from me Moving forward in the next hundred two hundred episodes as well. So i just wanna say thank you. Thank you melanie. Thank you julie Thank you zach. Thank you jeff. Thank you a million. Thank you team. And thank you all of you all of you. Mine right maniacs. All of you fire breathing dragons to commit every single day. You're like it's monday. I got to listen to the show or thursday show. But it doesn't matter what date is because with two hundred plus episodes. Now you can go back and listen at any time to them and make sure you get it right and get your mind right and makes you live with it every single day so i say thank you thank you for allowing me into your lives and into your heads and again thank you for sharing the show so that you can share impact until next time episode two hundred and one wow episode two and one coming up next. I just want to say one thing. You gotta train hard. You must always eat right. You gotta live inspired and you must create impact.

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Democracy Now! 2021-05-11 Tuesday

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Democracy Now! 2021-05-11 Tuesday

"Hi i'm amy goodman this year. Democracy now is celebrating our twenty fifth anniversary. That's a quarter of a century. Bring you the voices and stories. You won't hear anywhere else. Democracy now has always refused to take government or corporate funding because nothing is more important to us than our editorial independence but that means we rely on you our audience for support please visit democracy now dot org right now to make your contribution and help us stay on the air for at least another twenty five years. Thank you so much. Oh and remember wearing a mask is an act of love wearing to is even better From new york this is democracy. Now this list. Why did you kill him. Kill and there's no one to make them answer for world is watching. What does it matter child or woman. There is no one to hold them accountable for batch. therefore it doesn't matter if they kill a child. Israeli airstrikes have killed at least twenty six palestinians in gaza including nine children. As tension escalates dramatically in the region following weeks of protests in jerusalem israeli security forces raided the alaka mosque monday injuring hundreds of worshippers. Mass responded by firing rockets into israel. We'll go to gaza andrew sulum for the latest. Then we look back thirty. Six years ago to the day when philadelphia police helicopter dropped a bomb on the home of move radical. Black liberation organization. Must take a careful. Look at this five twenty seven. Pm state police helicopter ops. There is the explosion as you can see very dramatic explosion. That occurs thirty seconds and really rips into the move cop-out the bombing killed eleven people including five children but the print tragedy didn't end on that day we'll look at how princeton and the university of pennsylvania have used bones from one or two of the murder children in their classes for years in museum connected to the university of pennsylvania has been holding onto the remains of two children to black children for over thirty six years. More coming up. Welcome to democracy now democracy now dot org the quarantine report. I mean goodman. Israeli airstrikes have killed at least twenty-six palestinians in the gaza strip including nine children as tension in the region has escalated sharply over the past day in one incident. Seven members of a single family in gaza were killed including three children. Got to happen here is we. Were sitting outside the house waiting for star. The breaking of the fast eight month old child was killed. Who's getting married in five days after he was killed. How is this the children's fault girls between the ages of seven and nine killed. How was this their fault. We were just sitting outside the house. Waiting for the call to prayer fitness then The attacks came after seven hundred. Palestinians were injured in jerusalem and the west bank by israeli security forces. Monday including a violent. Crackdown inside the elax. A mosque in jerusalem. The third holiest site in islam her masters sponsored by firing of rockets into israel. No deaths reported by police said over. Two dozen people were injured. The tension in jerusalem has been mounting for weeks as palestinians have been organizing to block israel from forcibly evicting dozens of palestinians in the jura neighborhood of jerusalem to give their homes to jewish settlers after headlines will go to gaza and jerusalem for the latest india reported another three hundred thirty thousand corona virus cases to stay in nearly four thousand additional deaths though the true tolls are likely for higher in northern india. Dozens of bodies of covid nineteen victims have washed up on the banks of the ganges river in recent days residents said desparate relatives disposed of the bodies and the river. After they could not find a cremation site with open space or could not afford to buy would for funeral pyre on monday the world health organization declared a new potentially more transmissible corona virus lineage circulating widely in india is a variant of concern in the czech republic. Mourners lit nearly thirty thousand candles monday. At prague castle to commemorate the number of victims who fall into covid nineteen. The czech republic has the second highest per capita death toll on the world from covert after hungry. Worldwide cases have edged down from record highs set in april but remained dangerous. High plateau case rates are highest in countries with low vaccination rates in geneva world health organization director general tedros adhanom ghebreyesus called monday on wealthy nations. To stop. Hoarding vaccine doses. At the expense of poorer countries shocking global disparity in access to vaccines remains one of the biggest risks to ending the pandemic high and upper middle income countries. Three presents fifty. Three percent of the world's population might have received eighty three percent of the world's vaccines mike contrast low and lower middle income countries account for forty seven percent of the world's population targeted. Just seventeen percent of the will vaccines cova. nineteen cases. Continue to fall across. The united states is more of the population is vaccinated nearly half of. Us residents have received at least one vaccine. Does the number testing positive. Each day has fallen below forty thousand for the first time since september the food and drug administration monday granted emergency use authorization to pfizer's covid nineteen vaccine for trojan as young as twelve. This is acting fda commissioner dr china woodcock. We know this is a big step for our country. Accelerating a younger population brings us closer to returning to a sense of normalcy into ending the pandemic the pentagon says a us coast guard ship fired. Warning shots at iranian speedboats. Monday as they approach us navy ships escorting a nuclear submarine through the strait of hormuz. It was the third encounter between us in iranian ships in the past month. The naval tensions came as dozens of democratic officials wrote to president biden asking to revive the two thousand and fifteen nuclear agreement with iran which former president trump withdrew from in two thousand eighteen. The officials demanded the lifting of trump era sanctions writing quote. The only result has been vastly expanded around the nuclear program increase regional instability near usc iran war multiple occasions and severe economic sanctions that have contributed to a dire humanitarian crisis inside iran unquote in columbia as massive anti government protests. Continue for a second. We the city of cali has become the of skyrocketing violence against demonstrators by police. And vigilantes on sunday over a dozen. Protesters were wounded after. They were attacked by unknown armed assailants. Who demanded protesters and the blockade of major highways during a series of indigenous let actions in cali right wing president. Tom duquesne monday. Announce more security forces would be deployed to cali and urged indigenous leaders to leave the city. This is one of the protesters at the reforms changes against the colonial people. They love listening a few families. Big banks big international corporations who all tax burden on the country's population doesn't nationwide protests starting in april twenty eighth against a now withdrawn tax reform proposed by duquet and have continued to grow amidst increasing poverty. Inequity and police brutality and columbia. This is a member of the national strike committee. Speaking from bogut tom. Monday tunein got unscathed by you. Must flick is one of the basic guarantees we asked for was respect for the constitutional right to peaceful protests. A simple social right. On the contrary the discourse of president yvonne toward the excess of the security forces in mexico city hundreds of mothers whose children and disappeared let a massive march. Monday to commemorate mother's day and to urge the government take immediate action against violence and to find missing people since the us war on drugs with unleash mexico in two thousand six over eighty. Five thousand people have disappeared. This is estevez. One of the mothers yeager. Maybe government never told me muddy. Sorry i am sorry for what happened to you. Never apologized to us. They are the ones responsible for allowing the situation to continue escalating thirty. The statistics of missing people go up every day and fill in one hundred thirty one. People disappeared in twenty twenty in morocco occupied western sahara dozens of agents broke into the home of the renounce. A harare activist. Sultana kaya early. Monday morning and detained three well known human rights defenders. The activists say they were taken to the police station and the city of bush door tortured for two hours then driven to a remote location in the desert where they were dumped the raid follows months of harassment and assault against tana and her family in and around their home or sultana has been held under house arrest since november nineteenth. It's part of a wider moroccan. Crackdown on sahara activists. This week this comes after axios reported secretary of state. Tony blinken told morocco's foreign minister during a phone call late april that the biden administration would not reverse president trump's recognition of morocco's sovereignty over western sahara for now the state department has not confirmed the report morocco's occupied the territory since nineteen seventy five in defiance of the united nations and international law. Us recognition came. Morocco agreed to establish diplomatic relations with israel to see our documentary. Four days western. Sahara africa's last colony go to democracy. Now dot org in italy more than two thousand refugees mostly from sub saharan africa pakistan and syria have arrived on the mediterranean island of lampedusa within the past day hundreds of the asylum seekers were forced to sleep on an open. Air dock after the local shelter surpass capacity. Hundreds more have been quarantined until they're tested for covid nineteen. This comes as at least five. Refugees died sunday. After their boat capsized off the libyan coast as they attempted to reach europe a humanitarian aid groups said there could be a newborn baby among the dead in russia. At least nine people were killed and thirteen others. Hospitalized after a pair of gunmen reportedly opened fire at a school. In the city of kazan russian media reported one of the shooter's believed to be a teenager was arrested by police while another attacker was shot. Dead by security forces. School shootings are very rare in russia. Immediately after tuesday's assault president vladimir putin said he had ordered russia's government to immediately begin work on tightening gun ownership regulations. The washington post is reporting. Trump's justice department secretly obtained the phone records and attempted to get email records of journalists reporting on the investigation into russian interference in the two thousand sixteen presidential election. The justice department sent three separate letters earlier this month. Dress to three washington post journalists notifying than the department had received records associated with their telephone numbers from between april two thousand seventeen and june. Two thousand seventeen. This comes as press freedom. Sure denouncing the biden administration for defending. Trump's move against the washington post journalists and the. Us government's ongoing push to extradite wikileaks. Founder julian assange from britain. The head of instagram has apologized after the social media platform blocked deleted posts supporting a national day of awareness for missing and murdered indigenous women girls and two steers two spirit people a spokesperson from facebook which owns instagram blamed a global technical issue but did not provide further details. The company did not specify why the content was singled out. Meanwhile attorneys general from forty four. Us states and territories wrote to facebook. Monday urging ceo mark zuckerberg to scrap plans to launch a version of instagram marketed at children younger than thirteen. The attorneys general wrote quote use of social media can be detrimental to the health and wellbeing of children who are not equipped to navigate the challenges of having a social media account unquote. The biden administration announced monday. It's reinstating protections for transgender people accessing healthcare reversing an anti trans trump era policy. The move prohibits healthcare providers that receive federal funding from discriminating against people based on their gender identity or sexual orientation extending from an antidiscrimination clause. That's already included in the affordable. Care act california. Governor gavin newsom expanded a drought emergency to thirty nine more counties after the spring snowpack in the sierra nevada's measured well below historical averages. Several other western states are also reporting droughts. this follows a record shattering. Twenty twenty fire season along the west coast fuel by the climate crisis in louisiana dozens of climate activists with the sunrise movement have begun a four hundred mile march from new orleans to houston texas demanding lawmakers pasa villian climate core and provide millions of climate-friendly jobs as part of president biden's two point three trillion dollar infrastructure plan and in new york the federal trial against environmental and human rights lawyer. Steve don's acre began monday. Don's has been on house arrest for over six hundred days now. Allegations of contempt of court in two thousand thirteen. He won a landmark nine point five billion dollar judgement against oil giant chevron over the corporations dumping of sixteen billion gallons of oil into the ecuadorian amazon. Don's egger who has. Since been disbarred chevron's legal attacks on him are meant to silence critics and stop other lawsuits against the company for environmental damage. Democracy now spoke to don's eager in march chevron destroyed. The ecuadorian amazon. And i was part of a legal team. That held the company accountable. Decision in ecuador has been affirmed by multiple appellate courts in ecuador in canada which chevron did is rather than pay the judgment than it does to the thousands of people in ecuador that poisoned. It's gone after me and other lawyers the outlet. Common dreams recently reported danza. Gertz trial is being overseen by right-wing. Judge loretta preska. A member of the federalist society to see our full interview with steve zahn sagrega democracy now dot org and those are some of the headlines. This is democracy now dot org the quarantine report when we come back. Israeli airstrikes have killed at least twenty-six palestinians in gaza including nine. Children is tension escalates dramatically. We'll go to jerusalem and gaza stay with us the long march by the triage brom. This is democracy now. Democracy now dot org the quarantine report. I mean me. Goodman in new york joined by democracy now co hosts one kansallis in new brunswick new jersey high juan by me and walk toll of our listeners and viewers across the country and around the world. Well we begin. Today's show in gaza where israeli airstrikes have killed at least twenty six palestinians including nine children as tension in the region escalate sharply over the past day in one attack. Seven members of a single family in gaza died including three children. Meanwhile over seven hundred palestinians were hurting jerusalem and the west bank by israeli security forces. Monday hundreds were injured when israeli forces stormed the lacsa mosque. The third holiest site in islam. Hamas responded by firing hundreds of rockets into israel. No deaths were reported but police said over. Two dozen people were injured. Maas leader is smith haniya warned rocket attacks will continue until israel stops quote all scenes of terrorism and aggression in jerusalem and a lock psomas unquote. The tension in jerusalem has been mounting for weeks as palestinians have been protesting plans to forcibly evict dozens of palestinians in the shape of girard neighborhood of jerusalem to give their homes to jewish settlers. A court hearing on the addiction scheduled for monday was postponed. United nations has described the plan to fiction as a possible war crime in gaza families have started to bury the dead. After monday's airstrikes survivors described the airstrikes. Killing young children got the sitting outside the house. Waiting for the breaking of the fast eight month. Old child was killed. Who's getting married in five days after he was killed houses. The children's fault girls between the ages of seven and nine killed. How was this their fault. We were sitting outside the house waiting for the call to prayer. Rally knesset member of my. Tb blamed israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu for the violent esscalation which comes as netanyahu is fighting for his political life connection. Somebody could benjamin. Netanyahu will continue in these that we saw shifted coke. You fight sitting and the march. The we're joined now by two guests or illinois is in jerusalem and israeli political activists and editor of the hebrew language call member betselem executive board and joining us from gaza city. Raunchy surani ward winning human rights lawyer director of the palestinian center for human rights in gaza. He's two thousand and thirteen right livelihood award laureate. He's on the board of the international federation for human rights. Received the robert f kennedy human rights award in nineteen ninety-one also twice saying amnesty international prisoner of conscience raji surani. Let's go to you first in gaza The latest numbers. We have twenty six people Palestinians have been killed among them. A number of children. Can you describe the scene on the ground. Thank you in me. It's very hard. It's very tough. It's bloody to geek and black situation. Less van twenty four hour. I mean this harvest of lives and injuries and destruction. It's unprecedented and this remind us. Just what has happened. Two thousand fourteen two thousand twelve two thousand eight but this time i mean it seems it's much more toseh- than the clubs. Before is i mean. Domini can thirdly gaza and they are bumping they discovered since yesterday at this moment and every moment i mean this situation deteriorate more escape more and we are having more engaged. More civilians are gets a bomb the storm unfortunately as you and the civilian targets and that's very worries as if got just need that we have the we we have the blockade for us. Fourteen years which finalized entire life. We have the pandemic. And now i mean we have discoursed war against goes on targets and i of the storm once and again Do flagrantly late international law international and lou. Which is then took perfect at the time before they interesting. Neither gaza in order shifts or in the territories. This is in your brand of apartheid. Unprecedented much much. Worse than south. Africa moves to do raji surani. I wanted to ask you what up from your perspective prompted this latest round of attacks clearly over the last four years. During the trump administration there was an effort by the united states to sort of further marginalized palestinian question and the palestinian the israeli occupation What you're set in your perspective led to this new round of of attacks by israel will lamine very right wing government. The brian minister netanyahu competing how he can beat the most stride extremist. I mean as an and that's why he's investing and his best to someplace oppress more and more palestinians and to do what he's doing right. Now trump administer asian him wonderful get they give him clink for the settlements policy and that was spent to simint the this apartheid regime of israel in jerusalem and west bank they enhance ethnic cleansing in jerusalem towards palestinians and trump gave his executive or done by recognizing jerusalem as the not united kept lethal of israel. Unlike any other american administration eh before. Of course i mean. Netanyahu felt with that. He has absolute three hundred towards death. Especially i mean. He is into peak of the elections when his position is shaking and he tried to bring more and more death. He is read national. And he's the one who believe in eritrea ryan from the bird to the c. Pass keenan's with no existence they would. We don't take this for him. That's why he wants to clean. I mean jerusalem palestinians and. that's why when gaza injury as part of the people in jerusalem. He just jumped to that and he began. This orchestrated campaign bumping destruction and getting once again and the the visions that have been that have been proposed in the shakes jara neighborhood of east jerusalem. The united nations has described the plan the victims as possible war crime but and now we have the israeli supreme court postponing at least a decision. Could you talk about the importance of this particular neighborhood. As representative of the continuing a seizure of land by the israeli settlers israel in east jerusalem. They clinton i mean palestinians from there. They are taking it over a day after day by forcing people to leave by imposing pressure by expansion by building this and apartheid that the most important curtain said it's null-and-void a shift is good example. I mean for that. They want to take over. Its it systems. It's sounds threes. Palestinian genuine barked off of jerusalem. And the people in it. I mean they were refugees for eight to this after is forced him leave the cities they made against them and they came to this part of this and they are existing there. They don't want them to exists. There is ryan I want to remind everybody that entirely jerusalem. Any at this is not by. Palestinian is by but esteem bite by you and the whole world including get the american administration to according to such trump administration. Now with with what they are doing they want to force people to leave using then in the high court. What is the high court in the high court and his ride and the courts in israel regarding palestinians are racist rennick and they are then to provide pulitzer cover for organized system crimes but rated against the palestinian people. Just giving in this league got cut on for what they don't apply international though the international material lou for them this with ninety distance. Whatever who is one thing only then cook nuys the right of the any those who considered a holy blood holy swords hooley land others. I mean we oughta with non-existence. I want to go to that. Video that has gone. Viral on social media of the shake shera resident moon occurred confronting and israeli settler who've been living in her family's home for twelve years. You know this is not your house. Yes but if i go you don't go back. I didn't do. I didn't do this together me. But i didn't do this. My house and a vital someone else gonna steal it. No no no. I'm mean we spoke to mona l. Kurds twin brother. Muhammed occurred a yesterday. They are resisting the forcing out of the palestinians from shake shaw. I wanted to bring early noy into the conversation. The israeli political activists editor of the hebrew language news site local call member of the but salam executive board. You are in jerusalem. Explain what is happening there. And the escalation the way the us media following the israeli government media often refers to this is hamas shooting rockets into israel. Give us the context before this happened. What we should. I will get in a miniature. The context so the last round of esclation with before during that we need to look at the broader context of The the Inherent and institutionalized violence against the palestinians with a constant. There is a constant war at different levels that israel is embarking upon against the palestinian residents of jerusalem. I we need to remember that. The palestinians in jerusalem which make about forty percent of the city's population are not citizens of israel and they are as far as israel is concerned as sort of temporary residents of the city. It means that their houses are constantly under the sweat off A demolition they being taken over by settlers means that they are basically subjected to a different set of law and this is part of the apartheid nature of The palestinian reality everywhere in injures them. So this is the broader context then. Latest round of esscalation actually started we the very arbitrary and outrageous decision by jerusalem police to bend the palestinians from gathering at the end of the fast during ramadan. On why the steps outside. Damascus gates which is one of the main gathering centers of palestinians in east jerusalem. Certainly in the month of ramadan. So which should be a fest. Those festive affects new evenings after the breaking of the fast which always hacking in damascus gates And i think that the police knew very well that this will not go on protests without protests in an surely Surely off the palestinians Did protest which only gave the jerusalem. Police an excuse to treat them. We'd extreme metality. And i was there night after night. Mount i cannot even begin to describe what war zone an actual war zone. The police created because of the product because of palestinians posting against this arbitrary senseless of provocative decision. And of course when you add to that the sweat of the victims in sheriff joe which by the way are not for the first time palestinians have been constantly being evicted from Not only shifter but also from silwan in from other sensitive areas in the historic coli basin of the old city of for inform the most quarter of the old city itself so all of that sort of As was very much expected from the first moment exploded into the situation that we are witnessing right now and all in our could you talk about the a netanyahu is hoping to benefit from this instability and the his own problems that he is facing in terms of being able to form a new government and the repeated elections in israel how this plays into the his political interest after netanyahu exhausted the time that was given to him to try and established a government and failed to do so. His main goal became to prevent his political rivals from Succeeding in forming a new government. Now the israeli politics is now in a very strange phase in which extreme right-wingers are controlling both sides of the israeli map which is the pro-netanyahu of camp in the anti-itch awesome the answer but the situation in the anti nitzan yao camp which now has the mandate to try to step in and form a government is such that it needs to the for Extreme right wingers like naftali bennett. Engaged on sal to collaborate in some way with left central left qualities as labor party minutes and with the silent collaboration or cooperation of dejoy. Police the sure. Way for netanyahu to events that cooperation between both political sizing the anti netanyahu. Camp is to provoke them. This the the situation the reality insular war we show in which case it would be much more difficult because the bennett people. The right wing. People sal bennett etcetera. They need to be accountable to their Basic basis of Voters they want to escalate the situation. They wants a stronger attacks on gaza ause More violence against palestinians both inside and outside Forty territories Which is something. Of course that would make the co-op corporation with the left central left side of the political map almost impossible to achieve and at the same time The prime minister. Benjamin netanyahu is on trial for corruption as we wrap up rashi surrounding. We just got word from that. It looks like two israelis were just killed in ashkelon. that's where the rockets are falling And you have the twenty six palestinians number of them children In gaza as a result of the israeli attacks and finally The response of the united states secretary of state. Tony blinken said a moss needs to end the rocket attacks immediately and added. All sides need to deescalate. What do you think has to happen now. And specifically what are you demanding of the us government. This bloody bird long military the patient. That's the issue. I mean we talk. Do with us we. We cannot allow this to happen. I mean i. I cannot understand or digest. How international community seeing these. What'd crimes crimes against humanity have been in once and again once and again a on international human rights organizations. Know under your eyes. What's going on this new brand of apartheid that is need to have an influence this conflict. It's time so something something simple outline in this part to the word rule of law make accountability. All what we need peace. No one on air in need peace more than the press and oppressed we a as palestinian people but we stem having strong feeling toward justice. We want peace based on international go international during what we need similar thing in. Lake your bachchan what we need. This is ryan should be all the counting and you can deliver. It's an off. What the american administration then for israel providing them fully political immunity against the crimes. They are doing once again against palestinians icy see as when would be one of the places where these road incriminates wouldn't be all against all they committed against palestinian begins goodbye territories against the against the septum months policy against doctor. Is i mean there are making their night raw. She's running. I wanna thank you very much for being with us. Human rights lawyer director of the palestinian center for human rights in gaza. Please be safe and orleans by israeli political activists Language news site local call also a member of the human rights group bet salam's executive board when we comeback. We look back thirty six years ago this week to the day when a philadelphia police helicopter dropped a bomb on the home of move of radical black liberation organization killing eleven people including five children but the tragedy didn't end on that day will look at how princeton and the university of pennsylvania have used bones from one or two of the murder children in their classes for years. Stay with us and she told me she wanted the good life. She says he wants to know mama. You deserve it all. She s you believe too much he's got to get you one the wanna be a good bye. She got a man. I wanna give you everything she said. I couldn't ask for anything one and took wanna give me something to him. Happy to be done at the pretty awesome. Yeltsin fly baby by mike africa. Junior featuring suzanne christine. He says that when his mother came home from prison after forty years she told him to be free and fly baby. Debbie africa and michael africa senior are in that video as well. This is democracy now democracy now dot. Org quarantine report. I'm amy goodman in new york with juan gonzalez and new brunswick new jersey. By the way you can sign up for. Our daily news digests by sending the word democracy. Now one word space texting it to six eight six six texts democracy now to six eight six six. We spend the rest of the hour an a story. Democracy now has been following for decades and again more intensively this past month as philadelphia's racist past resurface with the public disclosure the bones of one or two african american children killed by the city's police in one thousand nine hundred ninety five or being used in an online princeton university course called real bones adventures in forensic anthropology. These bombs are being used without the knowledge of their families. This thursday may thirteenth the thirty six anniversary of the day. The city of philadelphia bombed its own citizens on that day in one thousand nine hundred eighty five police surrounded the home of move radical black liberation organization that was defying vacate. Police flooded the home with water filled. The house with tear-gas blasted the house with automatic weapons all failing to dislodge the residence. Finally police dropped a bomb on the house from a helicopter. Killing eleven people six adults and five children. The fire burned an entire city block to the ground destroying over sixty homes. This is how the bombing was initially reported in philadelphia on w. c. Aau tv just been advised that we have new video tape of The episode that apparently ended we think ended the move situation tonight dropping of an incendiary device. Let's take a careful look at this five twenty seven. Pm state police helicopter drops. There is the explosion as you can see very dramatic explosion. That occurs thirty seconds and really rips into the move compound there you see the bunker which soon will go up in flames. And that was the explosion. Close up out. There was anybody. They're standing there. It's obvious they couldn't survive that explosion so that was may thirteenth nineteen eighty five. The police bombing came after an earlier. Standoff with move in one thousand nine hundred ninety eight ended in a hail of police gunfire leaving one police officer dead move members say they didn't fire a shot at the officer that the victim the officer was a victim of friendly fire. Former mayor of philadelphia wilson. Good concurred with that conclusion nevertheless nine of them were convicted of his murder and given life sentences. One of them. Debbie africa secretly gave birth in her cell just five weeks into her sentence. She managed to keep her son miche africa junior with her for three days before alerting. The guards seven of the move nine are now free after serving forty years to died in prison in a minute. We'll be joined by mike africa junior last month. Philadelphia activist and writer duly muhammad learned the bones from one or two of the children killed by the police and that nine thousand nine hundred eighty five tree and alicia. Africa were being used by princeton university. And the university of pennsylvania's penn museum of archaeology and anthropology in an online video course in the video penn museum curators. Janet monge handles the bones and kohl's them quote juicy meaning that you can tell that they're of a recently deceased individual said. This comes as press accounts from one thousand nine hundred five say that trees remains she was fourteen were buried along with those of her half sisters in that not long. After the conclusion of an official inquiry the remains of the other children including deletion where reportedly handed over to a state senator who ran a funeral home and had them buried in unmarked graves but if the bones of tree and alicia were buried in one thousand. Nine hundred five. How did they end up in janet. Mancha's hands thirty six years later for more on these developments in what the children's families are calling for. We're going to philadelphia to speak with abdulah. Lui muhammed who helped reveal how the remains were being used after they first called for the penn museum to repatriate the skulls of enslaved people held in its morton collection also joining us mike africa junior host of the podcast on a move with mike africa junior and co author of the new book fifty years on a move. We welcome you both to democracy now of duly muhammed. Let's begin with you. I mean your reporting on what has happened to these bones and the philadelphia inquirer and other places is key to understanding. What's taken place. How is it possible that princeton and the university of pennsylvania have been using these bones to educate students about what adventures in anthropology. I mean it's gross. You ask how is it possible. The we'd still don't know all the details about what happened in terms of the chain of custody of the the bodily remains of trine deletion africa. What we know according to archival research and the work that i have been doing is that in the days after the bombing the days after the state murder of eleven people eleven black people in philadelphia island man who was a professor at penn who is a bio anthropologist was hired by the medical examiner's office to help in determining who the remains belonged to. Because like you said earlier in this Segment that the bomb been burned in causing a destruction of two city blocks. The killing of eleven people The city in its efforts to get the remains from the crime scene in the days following basically used machinery in mangled bodies instead of carefully gathering the remains of people and so the medical examiner needed help figuring out who these remains belong to man was hired by the medical examiner's office to work for a day in some change to help identify remains and janet monge was a phd student at the time and to assisted man and helping identify remains. Their conclusion was that there were seven adults and four four children which we now know is accurate months later. Mayor good moore wasn't good creates the move commission to look into the events and the bombing. The move commission hires forensic specialist named dr ali from delaware. Dr ali himalayas examines remains and concludes in a report that there are the remains of six adults and five children and we know from archival in from our archival information and documentation that homily has to reexamining remains because man challenges the findings in the press. So now i'm elliot. Reexamines remains in november of one thousand nine hundred five with two other people and reaffirms his earlier report. Which is that. These remains are five children and six adults and the remains that were said to have been an identifiable belong to treat africa and there was some other means that there were there were questions about and himalaya says these remains belong to delete you africa with the commission does after that is sent a memorandum to the medical examiner's office to release the remains per the normal procedures of that office. We are i. I'm this mind blown. At the fact that thirty six years later these remains our up on a video to teach about anthropology a gulali mohammed. I wanted to ask you. Terms of the of the of this morton collection itself and the university of pennsylvania a morton was celebrated as a founder of american ethnography but he was actually a white supremacist. Could you talk about this whole issue. This scandal these institutions continuing to hold a the bones many of them of enslaved africans and of native americans as well. Yeah sure i mean like you said martin was the white supremacist physician. Who amassed a collection of skulls in the late seventeen hundred eighteen hundreds and more research array science Was based on this notion that humans had different ancestors right that race different races had different ancestors and he tried to posit the idea that you could tell the intellectual capacity of a race by measuring skulls and so to do his scientific work. He would purchase goals from plantations Their skulls that grave robbed by From local potters field in philadelphia of fourteen Black philadelphians on remains were stolen And this collection like you said has indigenous folks has poor white people in his science was basically trying to legitimize the institution of slavery by stating that veto black folks in other people like indigenous people had less capacity for intellectual Thought then than my people and so about two years ago. I started calling for the repatriation of the remains Housed in the morton collection and that escalated and then around the uprising police free pin formed calling again for for the abolition of policing on campus. And in that context restated my demand for repatriation pin then creates a committee to consider the question of repatriation and reburial And was more momentum around this conversation then almost a year later paul with mitchell a phd. Student then identifies. Oh they don't just have the fifty three cranial that we originally thought they had wright fifty one cranial from a A plantation in cuba In vedado And then to from black folks in the us they additionally have fourteen cranial. A black philadelphians grave robbed from franklin field which is a part of penn's campus. It's an athletic field that used to be a burial site and when that happened it re ignited the call for a repatriation. There was a protest and there were you know demands stated at that protest to repatriate the remains or if they can't be repatriated to give them to descendant communities up to to bury them and after that happened that's when the story came to me about Pins possession pin museums possession of tree and deletes remains. I'd led to bring you know. Mike africa junior to the conversation of michael. How are the families and the move community processing and responding to these latest developments on what happened with the remains of two of the children in the bombing as well first of all. Thank you for having me on the show To to put out this information it the pe- people in our family as you can imagine are still very shaken up and disturbed and trauma is re traumatized. You know we were supposed to do this thing this tier because of the city council Since city councilwoman jamie gautrey pushed for an apology from the city. City council to and the city of philadelphia for dropping the bomb and there. Was this like possibility. Possible opportunity to like really start talking about how we can reconnect recommit and re observe and all these things for what happened on may thirteenth nineteen five and although never we never forget about what happened just going back to that aid to try to to try to learn from it so that it never happens. You know like one of these things where you can't even begin to heal because harm is still being done. And so like everybody is just re traumatized and have to relive may thirteenth all over again and to find out that this happened to two of the children s steph asserting gives me the creeps just listening to the reports about what happened to our sisters. Everybody in the family are just just stuck right now. That make you nutri. You knew delay shia you lived and played with them and a farm in virginia. Did we lived for years. We for years together. See the thing is we. Were all like orphans right. All of our our paris were in prison and so we were always together because the people the other people that caretakers other organization they took us in because by my parents were imprisoned just like trees. Mother was just like a delicious parents. Were you know. So yeah we all. We were always together. We were always doing everything together eating together. We play together. We cry together. We were in fear together. You know to hear about this is deputy and mike in your book That that you that you've written fifty years on a move. You talk about the history of the relations between move and the political establishment and the police department and in philadelphia. As you know. I was a young reporter back then in philadelphia. At the time i i lived through the seventy eight a confrontation and the killing of an officer ramp which obviously was was from. What's from police. Fire not from the not from the move compound then and then of course one thousand nine hundred eighty five as well. Could you talk about the the situation back then especially under mayor. Rizzo frank rizzo. I recall after the seventy eight of a shootout win with africa was publicly beaten into streets almost senseless by a group of police officers that the head of the naacp at the time i thought so deal later became a state us representative said at that time. He publicly called for an investigation of police abuse. And may orissa. What on the six o'clock news and said as for our deal. I want a piece of him myself. That was a kind of mayor. Frank rizzo was. Thank you talk about the climate that what and how move became a lightning rod of police abuse in those days. You know much much like the black panthers and other organizations that wanted to see change. That's what move was doing. That's what john africa was about trying to make some kind of change because of the of of the of black people's living and not just black people have a poor whites and animals and they have You know every we need to change and that message was so strong and will you try to make change. Will you try to do something to to to upset the current establishment and try to just take us a new direction. Because these what's happening is wrong. They they don't want these these things to change. They want to stay in this position and this position of power and disposition of control. And so when when anybody try to speak up it ain't just move that that will run into these obstacles and these and this wall of police and this wall of of politicians and just trying to stop you from from from putting out this information and so that's exactly what rizzo was like donald trump. You know of that time except he was even worse in the confined space nyc africa junior. We have to leave it there. I know your family will be doing something on thursday on the anniversary of the Thirty six years ago. The police kailai Eleven people in the move family I mean he goodman with one gonzales. Mike africa and abdulah lui. Mohammed thank you.

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Antigone part 2 - Hymen Scream

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Antigone part 2 - Hymen Scream

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I'm going to talk about and i was. He the one who like i'm not your dad. No know that was i. Think the shepherd or someone that was the past a different messenger. Terrorist is the blind prophet. Yes dermot patera say. And he'd been the commission by korean and then that's why person crianlarich fellow actors like usetim. And then he said. I still have a billion marrying people in greece. Shit and i don't know man prude fucking respected so the way terrorists back and he comes to. You've more incestuous case for me. I swear to god. I'm gonna lose my shit. He's come to tell cre- on that he has to bury pollen. Icees whose brother that's left out and free antigone or hyman creole. Who die. And i do believe fortunetellers out for their own profit. You know you hired me like a couple of years ago. You got him singing his praises and also he. He's like early believed leave them. I believe it's the thing. Did you watch me sing like literally that and you're not into fortunetellers memory. And then he's like even if like you know. These things are going to come. Deposits got to do with the actions of a more to because how could the actions of immortal pollute goodness of god again person. That whole play button. Tara tara cleese's are sees terraces is just the biggest iro going as like geico will. I just came to tell you that your mood is if you don't do what i say about the end of the day your choice. I'm often them. There's always just around boy aroused boy. Lead me home. I don't have to listen to him. I can see you would get w like lesson now. I think you're liar again like okay. Well i actually know how this plays out won't be seeing literally saying so. Maybe i said they offer the fact you call you. I can see see further than you boy. So he goes and the chorus kind of ways and then they're like well i'm saying dude is that i'm old as fuck and i've never known him to be wrong can imagine like the course. Nothing like you tell outsiders helen and cryonic concedes but he says to admit that i'm wrong and to back down. What i've said is just as bad as watching a terrible tragedy. Play out so save on. They need this gray one of your own like three people's lie and this is t- people's lives to burial for someone his dead on the dow. Yeah i see where you're coming without. Oh yeah he's kind of like all is i am trying to figure out the lesser of two evils but it is hard man. It's hard and the chorus is like. Could we advise you. On that point. He goes go on then yet. Cheeky old man. Like just take a deep breath. Guess onto me out to go. Freon agreements like. This is extraordinarily difficult to me. Because i am very arrogant but yeah i guess we'll have to do it. And as you see enough old white men have told me to do. It's therefore shall to it like high five botany to put the person with the biggest bid to talk to him. Yes who's got who who's the fairest skin on the street and off you go please. So the chorus goes and go. Let your own hand to it and no other. Gods have told him that he has sorta also don't confusing need to sort this out and creoles like i will go this instant slaves new bring spades and mattocks out on the hill. I shall do it no other hand purposely. You do it for me. It's clearly bullshit countess to this. I taped like. I suppose they think similar to getting into car like i'll go and get her right now. I think you'll find the right now. I took the car. I told the slate green tree. Yeah let's like that people are people and you're totally not doing. It doesn't work out. He shot sauce. We're maybe the gods pro slice so the course of having jannu at when there's like kind of a lull and things are progressing which they didn't have the special effects to show us the course just basically has a chin wag about the state of the world and everything and just like. Oh he's see does everything by doesn't antigone k is the messenger back yet. Tell us what's going on. So finally i made it the messenger rox always a messenger. And he's like oh i'm instead and the like oh god and that killed him like lets. You wouldn't think paul screen on this point. I have to say to my calendar. Got bit confused. Did he stop a messages like himself. The and at this point queen. You're a dc. I presume say her name again. She works in who is highlands mom and crayons wife. And she's like my husband. She said i had a conversation but not properly. Would you mind repeating that you see. I've never become acquainted with grief. So i'm sure i can bear it. Does it show like. I never been bereaved say laid on me. I'm good what about women. I'm sorry but what the. I appreciate his benefit ring to my onerous war poetry. But like i've never had grease so she'll be i tell me this really is i'm like did the translation gab. Fucked fast mean. She's also she's like been around with oedipus thing in the whole life plague and everything like to me you've known grief you're no stranger to grief so this is why i mean is like look. I am in no way an expert. But i think he must translate. Sometimes when you watch for levi's. I've been translated on i. I was watching. I think it was a korean film. One once. But i'm all i remember is. They were talking about the science class about the solar system and they were saying about how the sun Orbital the planet you got that translation a bit wrong like fiction thing. I was like come on and did nobody check. Do you remember. Laurie is with challenging. But we watched a film as cool annabel was like spanish or something on espo was a whole section. That literally didn't make saddened sliding you watched it. Yeah like i was subtitled alley. Like a section where. The subtitles did make sense as far creepy doll with long blog. Has i think. I know what you mean. Yeah again yeah. That's netflix where it was. Yeah yeah there's a section it was like it just it doesn't make sense leipold happening like 'cause it's subtitles with the subtitle just fair. It's not part of the country conjuring season asi weird thing and it's massive like well. Two of them will netflix's but anyway. Yeah maybe it didn't make sense. I suppose the team that running a house and that like the dope gosh lights. It's like kind of thing they've all gone to the house to kill this dole and then they get like anyway. Let's leave now and get dinner rental. Do something their daughter or something gets kidnapped. You you literally went to kill the doll. Are we talking about yeah. It was on fire. That stopped anyway so looking to rewatch shared. It's gotta be perfect. Sounds like maybe they were drinks them up on the subtitles so Yeah the message. The course right. So the message tells had pre-owned went. I bury pollen icees and i was reading something about this and they were like this is really poignant. Because he went to bury. Paul is his first because he feels guilty about what he's done to a dead man than what he's done to a living woman but lets you pull in and take an in the cave right now go let her out and then go shopping antigone she would want to be there for his burial stroup. A fucking stupid does he. Sounds like go sons betrayed and also you know like it's contentious point fucking sue. Antigone out. I like to imagine that when they messages telling this power all the course of all my fucking man lighten actually. We're finishing burying him. They heard hyman scream. I think it is heyman by half golden highland. They heard hyman hyman screwing gig at this scream. I haven't screamed from antigone cave. they're gonna dock in the mind the had the and from sophocles like i'm hella funny. You're not wrong so issues sophocles. You are comedia- he's plays off fucking to be you know what of these serious look. Embraced her talents bra. You will make me laugh okay. You and they see on takings hanging. Just like margin custer did and i really i and highland screaming and cry secre brushes over to him and like oh come away come away and hyman spits in his face and like no when he pulls the sword out and he lashes out his died and this is the dad. Just run away unscathed retreated. I think it was like well if someone came run away and i and our top tation staging this and it's like come away. It's okay. I'll i'll cut of often not be able to stop. I'm stops himself in the side. And then he hugs antigone as he's bleeding out and it says his blood stains pale cheeks and at this point urizzi is hoping her baby son miche aside. He's hurting her presumably. How her cheeks or did he mean cheeks guy you can imagine the messenger and be like. What are you going to tell her that she led. He pled ross say cheeks. Sounds nice at yeah. I'll say she's live beating. Bob poetic poa. Spin this one. I'm going to say cheeks. Nice nice nice person gotta make it. Beach sold every penny. I'm a slave right on this case. It's very sad yes. We need to reach correct. That so was so Yeah at this point queen you were deceased right and just stands up and walks into the house without saying a word and the course is like that sought and someone car with us. She's got a top messages. Like i'm sure she just wants to grieve in prime. She doesn't let go of course but there is a day again. This is the this. Is the women like the course of a women on the messenger sure. Of course you'll store storm going on to the chorus case but there is a danger in unnatural silence as much as there is in excess limitation. Like i kind of a red flag for me. On the messages he adds be fake or put okay check. She's not on a cellphone if you would if you would. If you take pastor. She got the news and she disappeared the policy and then more happen offer a messenger and i'm sorry i'm just live. How olsen joe cast his name as league grade. I'm going to name for my cup of joe. Gatt staff. yes yes yes get a cat now. I'm seeing some kittens week. I mean no position. I'm gonna get a kit but you have to get joe. Cast casta cats. Sasha fucking people come around like you jake hotstar like just let you one in every fifty people like ha. I wanted every fifteen people. Staying say lawless. If i am meeting hundreds and hundreds to meet this one in every four friends now what we call the episode is it joe or the haymond screen from antigone cats because it shorter hyman. Scream the polling at the hyman behind. We'll do that one. Sorry guys you already know what we went for. Who can you tell us at the messenger. Heads in check was going on this point. Crean rocks up carrying highlands body and now can hewlett silly now clean. You didn't listen to anyone now. It's all gone to shit. Just like terry ceus that it would and you look very silly boy so career brooks and he's literally those gods god's real something deliberate under well they come for you become for you real good point. The messenger rocks back out the palestinians. You wait you think you're in a world to pay now you will paint. His belly stopped powell and criminals like of course like did shea and net messenger. She said you wife the mother of who is dead in your arms. The death wound fresh in her heart. She said that audit dig the developed Pay back to legacy five minutes four inches like grief. I'm sure i can take. This is the moment. I realized i was wrong. This is the moment realise. She'd fucked up just about like the voice said. This is the moment. I realized fucked up just slack on just like the before shot like i've never had grief. I'm sure it can handle it. Like a freeze frame. She she really kitchen. That's for me for me. So i mean she. She was about very quick at what she did. This i ain't talking about stubby. Stop time ago so you just put this a lot of the flooding trigger warning. Jesus just stopped mention of knife crimes and death and suicide a lot. He ended in inverted inverted quote mark kinky converting time but yes the end of the great tragedy. There's a lot of death. So yeah crayons like showed he notch dead and they just opened the doors. His dead body show hid her dead body. Just imagined you know the messenger. Go deep in the dorm coping. Ooh that might not be the most tactful way to today's border on and say is like my child. Okay get ready for another rhyme My child topless suit again with give it. What is is my child here in my arms and there the other the sun. I love cheeky right. Yeah and they're the other the sun mother. Because when i read it i was like the other your wife. That just kills herself. The mother of your child the other. Oh it's for the media buying it. I wasn't talking now. I'm so i'm hydro and the koreans like and the messenger is like. I'm with her dying breath. She cursed you on their slayer. He's like the chorus in the message. Like no i thought within and for me to end this misery messages rolling up his sleeves. Like indeed you bed. The burden of two debts. It was her dining word. And i would just like to remind everyone with the title of this players to debts vitamin and you see what the fuck is ready to. Finding his the burden of three deaths at least just the county on taking is she's dead. She said she's a woman and she's not mother or wife. She did they ask you find body hanging or was it just like night gallon. She'd just freaks out. He's dying body as so. Yeah just fucking cheek to death ridiculous and then do over. The core is going on in the front maryland program. Guys fucking reach and taylor's last acts like what did you see. What was the last thing she did. And the messages says hearing her son was dead with our own hands. She drove wife written a shop. He soared i presume i mentioned so. You're over shaw. Just joy drew of shopping. It was a terrible mess in quiz night. Copy imagine what the special effects and she's just draw with sharpie. The message came and she drove a sharpie sort wink wink into art. And there is no man actress. We hired like myself and shopping view. Call soluble no. I'm so creole. Says there is no mandate compared this skill but me it is true. I killed him. News me away away. I live no longer and the chorus is like twelve and if anything is best in evil times what soon is done is best when all is l. Goes i am nothing. I have their life lead me away. Might hands have done amiss with face too heavy for me and on exit so i was like to kill himself for an that saw at least because he's still have no life in the courses like ruling to look this up with all the knowledge that he's learned from recent years affect hall niche real off. And i was like no. You don't get two ru you fucked me. Have a bit one of the correspondence guys. Which on went onto rule. Thieves noted she learned from this smith's unfortunate event and some good like yes is this is where the chorus to saas. Karen stay fucking. Oh always like go. Oh it's very inclusive new series. Go co-co-co-couple is nobody funny. Literally guys if any of you have connections but losing contact. We need to make this play so the news to make tap. The chorus concludes that they basically say. That's a old age. Teach you to revere the gods above all else including all man-made authority and wisdom so that's what learnt to blindly follow. The gods like terrorist always done so i added a bit that it's really undiplomatic and so with old age. You learn to revere the gold supply of everything manmade and that's that's the end of the even place was another one was really good. I swear as legend own also at the end about creole. That didn't really talk about as fantasy needed to cease to exist left the dog. Can you imagine the debate like get. You don't like a satisfying you finish writing the last sentence of your book and you close see the title of the front page. Reckon sophocles shit. I read it that way with me. i'm okay with it like well to very patriarchal society. I'm sure i one member. Oedipus being like joe castel won't be like from lowly starts web but he smelled fucking women so rupa just imagined like because most of the korean like i'm one of them just like just cracking up is true cure to fat. He has called just unfortunate. But i got the point like look. I'm not saying i'm happy about. I'm just saying it was a funny shock. It's really weird though. This last play like the fattest antigone and she's got her. No call that much to do about set. Just men arguing around here and here and her trying to make sure that men are honored like now that the men will have anti fights not that i. I've definitely read something for. I know we discussed it last week about antigone feminists because she's standing up to matt and like no she's not family. She could have been a feminist. She argued women's rights which are not feminist. Because she's not defending women's rights. She's defending But it's like this like most early like version of like and this is a powerful woman but she fights for men because we can't really think about listening thing like i got the result of stuff while you were much more powerful and possibly even the stories about Taken a but then lost in time clay when written by then it will remember. What's the thing at the batch del tasks to see if there's like yeah two women. It's lycene he want discussing them out. Yeah basically yeah. That's all he has to. Women have seen together with no but they talk to each like talk to another woman on. The topic is about manager. So that's what this is like the well. You know one of the earliest failings of the bachelor test and they're like about strong women like vista about men though in it. Oh yeah because when you think about the best choice the seventy films even they eat patriarch whoever then you think oh my god you will fucking fail. I mean I love her Not every single one files the bachelorette test yet. I'm trying to think because the early when they're talking about women that talk to a man so yeah the honestly the only seen i can think of but as little batman as well as the antibiotics to see a man being like. He's the only one that can help us about her son. So a lot of penis in thinking about the things she had mother's death but she's trying to harry transferring. Yeah yeah yeah. Yeah even even genius stuff with them. Lillies down through the narrative dumbledore all three snaps maria so yeah so fails including antigone which wasn't even a better at the end icon guy to death. I know i'm like a broken records. Thing fucking turns us take him because he didn't technically kill his wife is what his wife saying it like. I mean he did technically can take what he actually sentenced today. Anyone he did yet. She's the one you're so ru but then he was like i'm gonna slap this messenger. Let's not i'm got hit the messenger. So i think we'll wrap things up there guys and we're going to be taking a little brick before katie comes back with all you coming back with. I have no idea and you didn't say give them stop for a weekend to be looking at on one to be go and it was exciting. I and guys get the lsd. I'm lou do that and we'll go on the trip together. Oh my my smile well. I need to need to explain what just happened. So i've seen cross-legged like china had my heart resting on my mouth that i just put my Gift to my hands up and put my face muhannad against you just leant forward and wall. I m grim times man Yeah i get. I really smelly up. Yeah i mean you. Work hoffman lower. I do statal out. 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302. The Advisors Guide To Achieving Work-Life Balance With Travis Parry

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302. The Advisors Guide To Achieving Work-Life Balance With Travis Parry

"Welcome to the top adviser marketing. Podcast brought to you by proud mouth in. Yeah i'm your host. Matt halloran being. Your own loud is not new to marketing but the mindset strategies and resources to help you get. There are evolving faster than this industry is keeping. It is time to find a new perspective on what works why and how to move your business for. Listen as i interviewed guests to help you learn from them how to be your own loud. Let's get to the show. Hello and welcome to another top advisor marketing podcast. You know we love bringing people to you who are not only going to provide you with unbelievable service and provide you with something that you might not be able to get anywhere else. Something truly unique but we also love it when we can bring on great marketers today. We've got a dumb women here We've got dr travis. Perry now travis is an amazing coach. And we're going to spend some time talking about that but not only is he. He's an amazing coach but he markets like nobody else in. I want you all understand this before. I even welcome to the show. Not only does he have a book which just came out. We'll make sure that we have that in the show notes because it's awesome. But he also video blogs boggs. He has an unbelievable social media presence. He podcasts in then on top of that he does video too so he is firing on all cylinders. That we've talked about here. Prod off for really long time and of course that begs the question which is how in god's name z. Time to do it all. And he's also time management wiz. We're going to talk a little bit about that too so travis. Welcome to the show my friend. Thank you for having me. I've never been introduced as marketing anything. So this is a appreciate that. We have been very impressed. In fact kirk. And i spent a little time today for all of your stuff kirk just like dude and he does this alma got it. He does this well first off. We need to find about find your story. Because i think yeah. We're you have come from to where you are now with the book achieving balance with your life balance with your rather demanding family life because you have six kids now six and one on the way by the way do not right. You got six. Seven is a perfect number right on top of that. You know you are very very busy person. You speak all over the country. So how did you make a transition because you weren't advisor at one point and how did you become a really good question. So with northwestern mutual. When i got started. I fell into the industry into state farm frenzy. Hey i've got a sales job. You want to do this. Are you're going to school. My insurance what's that. I wanted to be a financial advisor. So i started there and when i got into northwestern they such a great training program. They really did. And you know most of these big. Bbc's they have to because most advisers don't stick. And i wanted to be one of them with that stuck might persistence. And my stubborness brought me through it. But i wasn't making a ton of money. In fact i look back on my four years of college. Actually three years in the internship As somebody flipping burgers because at the time that you put into it it all is the return on investment. But as i was going fulltime on that. I was married to kids at that time. My wife and i try to juggle the schedules. It was pretty hectic because they want you to work nights weekends Pretty much twenty. Four seven i eight just got to that point where my thought. You guys sold me on the flexibility in the financial freedom. That was a good fit. But now i'm starting to feel pretty. You know pulled in every direction. As i was feeling that man i hit twenty five and i was like wow. My health was not what it used to be. When i was twenty is starting to catch up to me. There is some strain. My wife is relationship quite honestly and in addition to that. I just like wow. There's gotta be something that i missing. What am i doing wrong. I started to get some help. And i started. Get some training realized. Yeah me. I need my time better. And maybe it's this big. Maybe it's their fault. So i'm gonna start business. Holy cow starting. My own going off on my own to do that. You know i. It's one thing to be independent. But then i realized how much is like the support. I missed so it was kind of a two edged sword northwestern. Has you like other big cities. They've they've got you kind of in their system you're also in their system so i had create all these new systems and quite honestly man. I got caught up in everybody else. Starting a business logo design. Where i have my office all of the things all the shiny objects so i decided to do some training at that point in Cockroach on how to manage my time better and that's kind of where it came to a head in addition to that kind of what got me really thinking about it deeper was my father was forty nine. All of a sudden passed away a heart attack on a mountain bike ride in it left me in paralysis. I was just shocked stunned here. I was twenty six years old speaking at my father's funeral. Like what am i doing like it was just a total nightmare. Her family went through a lot of things mitchell. You don't have to mention all details here but that was the catalyst that really just pushed me over the edge. Travis you need to figure this out. Dad was an awesome guy. I loved him a great relationship. He was phenomenal. So i have a lot to look up to. But then i had a lot of fear and trepidation of. I need to pass fifty. My wife wants me to my kids. Need to and so. That really pushed me to figure out what i needed to do. Through that journey you have created for lack of a better explanation natural system right and you said something right at the beginning which you were. You felt like you were pulled in every direction. I know that advisors feel that way. All the time trav- i mean they feel again they have to be. They have to be the event planner and then they have to be hr and they have to be payroll and they have to be compliance. Have to be all of those things. How do you help. Advisors achieve that balance. How do you help them figure out where they should be focusing and then what do they do with other things that they shouldn't focus now. I know there's a huge question but why don't we start at the beginning that we can get a little bit more granollers we want. Yeah kind of revisit. That what his balance for me. That nineteen eighties version of balance is not what balances today is. Not that i'm gonna directly proportion all ten areas of my life perfectly so that i balanced that is not a thing anymore. Technology has destroyed those boundaries that we could say i'm going to close the door of the office and go home is you didn't have a laptop in one thousand nine hundred. You didn't have a cell phone. My dad had like a briefcase mcdonagh. What is that right. They call this a cellular telephone son. Miche what like you can make calls from your car if you need to. We got it in her pocket. We have supercomputers in pocket at it's just destroyed boundaries so i think what what people need advisors especially need to know. What are my priorities. And when you live your highest priorities in life doesn't mean you're spending all your time there but when you put those at the very top physical health relationships whatever it is for you. That's what advisers have told me is when they feel balanced the most. And that's what i've experienced smith what. I've studied in school to try to figure that out. I remember the first conference that i went to and financial services many many many many years ago you know it was. It was a badge of honor. I work eighty hours a week. Yeah you don't know anything. I work eighty hour twice as much as you. I plan on dying at my desk. And i remember looking at one of my coworkers. Tattoos going to die here you know. Blood vessels popped in his nose from high blood pressure. Way overweight eating terribly breathing sweating. And i'm just like how is this a badge of honor. Do you think travis that there has been a consciousness shift with it. The adviser community so that they are living their life with their their their highest directed their highest purpose. They're high focus. Do you think that's happened yet. Or am i just dreaming here. I think it's starting to with younger advisors right. We have gone from the information age to the experience age. People wanna travel now before they do school. They want to experience life. They want to experience life before they have children. And what they don't understand and this is the last section of the book is actually having children is what we all crave maybe not necessarily the physical act but having the next generation that we're able to give a legacy to which advisors talk all the time like legacy legacy that that actually is a number one motivator of society today. We want these experiences in. So i think in a way millennials think that they're creating better work life balance but yet they're really struggling with staying present so you've got the older generation like we could be present because we're not addicted to our toys but we're going to work eighty hours a week and then you get. The millennial generation was like yeah. We don't work eighty hours but we're on our phone all day long so it doesn't feel like we're working but we are that make sense it does. It does make a lot of sense. And i think that finding that balance and i think finding that balance is a little bit different for everybody and it's not a light switch Do you agree with that. It's not like oh today. I'm not going to be that way anymore. How do you help people do that over time. Though that's one of the things. I think achieving balance. I love how you call it. Achieving balance not balanced today as my wife's idea by the way we were camping and she woke up in the morning. She's like. I have the title for your book. I was like okay. It's like it's cheating balance you nailed it and it's true because it's not this i. I have arrived balanced. It's now it's every day struggle. And i tell my clients all the time. I'm so grateful for you guys. You help keep me balanced. Because i have to show up and i i cannot be in a incongruent with what i do and what i teach you so in a way. This is really helping me. You know as just like you have a nice podcast. You're giving me tips like it really helps you. I'm sure to be at the top of my best practice. So i think that that's incredibly important as as we move forward and understand that it's a moving target. It's fluctuating even the cover. My book has kind of this teeter totter action on the time pendulum because we're constantly balancing work and home work in personal because of life things changed so dramatically and so quickly right. I mean i don't think anybody would have expected the nation to be shut down for an entire year right. I didn't think that. I don't think people were prepared for some of the things that have really become very difficult and you talk about you have four areas that you really really focus on when talks when you're talking about achieving balance and and we were talking about this before we got on but a wise person once told me that the for everything that you want in life you have to give up something proportionate to that one you can only give up five things time towns relationship treasures and control and you've got four of the five and then you just told me i talk about control all the time. How do you begin. So let's talk about when somebody engages you. Where do you even start. Because i always found in we find it and how goodness gracious here proud. It's just getting people to interrupt their pattern and do something different. That's going to change their life. What do you do to get them there. Dude yes the marketing secrets So i think the big thing is just having the conversation. Like i've done since i i thought i thought i left the financial advising space. I found out the industry hallelujah. That was killing me. I thought i wanted to be a financial planner. I'm so done. I wash my hands of it. Ought to go hide in academia to find out what i'm going to be when i grow up right and experience that really rocked me as well. You've created this time management system and you want to be a coach. I started doing that while i was going through. School did a psychology masters. And i realized that. Through that experience i did kind of become a phoenix. I became a different person when i graduated anti went on to do the test. What i created and guess what at the end of all that. I came back to the industry because i realize this is the industry. That probably needs me. The most in the research shows that the research shows that so i think having the conversations about it one of the biggest things that people tell me at the end of like just to consoles i call it a discovery call. I see what's been the best part of this may say every time so good to talk to someone about this like you're not a therapist. You're not trying to shrink me. You're not my spouse telling me what i should or shouldn't do. You're not telling me you know you're a bad business. You're just somebody else. And i'm like yeah. It's good to talk about it because it's a real issue that we sweep under the rug and like you mentioned where a badge of courage in honor at conferences. But it's not helping it's killing us. It's causing stress. It's worrying us in our psychology at stuck in our subconscious in quite honestly. It's not helping has to be the best advisor out there right the best advisor the best human the best employer the best of all of those things when you're out of balance things. It's just like my kids have. We bought our kids a car which was good and bad in one of the cylinders was not firing correctly in the car was running horribly dude and so we took it to autozone and make you a little computer. And it's really franco plugging peter in this old car. By the way plug it in and took it back to the and cylinder number five is off. Here's what you need. So i was like it's going to cost me. Ten grand cost me thirty five dollars for the part. We replace that part travis. Car runs brand new. So i i like that analogy because if one of your cylinders in life is out right. So here's the thing. I come to you so i'm an adviser i come to you. I'm sitting there. We go through discovery. And you say i think you should work on these areas. Do you do that or do you say which of these five areas do you want to work on and then walk me through one of the four major areas in how you attack that. Yeah so i think after we have my initial consultation with people usually it comes down to. That's the psychological deep dive and so they know where they're stuck. Psychologically and a lot of times that's built in fear which is chapter fourteen of the book. We talk about fear. Nobody wants to talk about it because financial advisers. Were these tough guys. You know type a personalities and we've got it all over the brass and because we need to be right. That's kind of the industry. Expectation is to of be the lead on that. So we don't talk about that yet is subconscious level. It's important to address those fears for what they are subconsciously. The next thing that i typically do with people is the behavioral deep dive. Okay here's what you're thinking. Now what are you doing. And so then. I helped break down with them. What they're actually doing every single day or at least a on an average and help them find their sweet spot right before this. You said something to me Two fingers travis in front of the mic. That's the sweet spot where you should be right and is totally true. Sweet spot is where the mic sounds. The best if talk way up here. It's not you can tell. The difference will just like financial advisers. They have a sweet spot in their daily routines. And when they're hitting it do they feel on fire. Today was awesome. It was such a great day. I'm helping people and saving the world. Whatever but when they're stuck in those things they don't like doing or that are not are taking away from the things that they should. They're not in their sweet spot. They feel it in. they're frustrated. You know what happens. They work more and do more of the stuff that they shouldn't be doing as a way to feel like. I'm i i'm going to work on this instead of doing less just on the things that they should do. I work less than thirty hours a week. I don't wear that badge. I'm just saying i do. I have multiple six figure business. Because i do less in what i've been finding to is the the more laser focus. We can get them and we call it staying in your lane and and we do that here right so in in. We're gonna change gears just a little bit because you have been able to do extraordinary marketing without killing yourself on the thirty hours a week right and so i want advisers so we had a two prong reason. Why we want to travis on the podcast number. One is because we really hope that you hire. I'm just going to say that flat out. All of you need it. Most of your terribly out of balance. I love you all in. You know that but most of you are terribly out of balanced and it's really nice to know that there are people out there that can help you focus in figure out what that sweet spot is where you need to be in order to perform your best because you are an expert in his your duty to do the best you can for your clients but the second part of this is is. How do you act cute that because some of you are thinking will come on travis to. We got too much stuff to do. How do you help. People rescinded the control or delegate in order to make it so that they can't stand there sweet about without having to do absolutely everything. Yeah so as the really define what that sweet spot is. It's all about doing three things automate delegate or delete. If there's something that i know i could do. I don't really want to. I automated for example my calendar everything on cowardly have got it all set up and what it works acknowledges working it works great. There's times i've got to fix it or you know. I got my assistant. Who can help me figure it out. But i automate basically all of those things. I know. i'm pretty good at but probably shouldn't be doing all the time. I delegate things either completely or mostly to my team members. I don't wanna do my bookkeeping. I don't care about taxes. I don't wanna do them so. I delegate the majority like ninety percent i'll even pay one hundred dollars a month to have so many. Take care of my books. Why existing take me several hours. That is not worth it to me. I i'm were. I'm worth fifteen hundred dollars an hour. So why. don't i pay somebody else to do that right. It just depends on how you look at it and then the last is why am i doing this at all. Should i even be doing this. Sweet spot or even a couple of things down than you probably just get rid of it. Delete it sometimes. Those activities really are just there because you do them to avoid other activities avoidance behaviors and that is really important to to understand your either delegate automate or delete those activities and heavily. Get people that you can give that stuff too when you delegate or the offer that is effective. I want to dive into your marketing. Just a little better. This is a marketing podcast. You have a substantial amount of client relationships right so you do very similar things and financial you meet with your client. You're talking to them. You do work for them between the meetings. All of the same stuff financial advisors. Do you said you work in about thirty hours a week. Which by the way. I think a lot of us are going to realize here in the near future that that's really a good balance and then and then you're still producing all of this stuff. You've got a podcast. You've got the videos. You just wrote a freaking book. How how did you. How did you manage all of that and maintain the fact that you're an entrepreneur in your business person and you're helping people. I've had great people coach me. I have invested a lot of money into my own education and into my mentors. And i always have a coach. It's usually not the same one. I use coaches for sex to twelve months and they helped me with something very specific. And i say thank you. I meet at that and even if it wasn't all everything that i thought it would be. There's usually two or three things that change my my work. Because i learned from them kasi learning step one now as far as marketing goes i realized over using various different coaches that i really needed to niche into who i am trying to get as my client. Once i finally with some help of several coaches realize these are financial advisers. Then i had to find what was it. They actually wanted to hear from me. Step to fight. What is it that they wanted. That only happens when you interview them when you talk to them when you have those conversations but i needed something to interview them about. I have all this knowledge. I could teach a plethora of different courses. I have books all over my sheldon. I've been to the university but my biggest thing was balanced. And i did it wrong. I started preaching to the public. It was consumers about relationships and try to bring in balance on the side. And then i went to advisers and i thought will k. Visers here my people. So i'm gonna help you but then i'm gonna go on this spin of relationships with advisors in that got me some traction but it really wasn't there and it wasn't until i figured out what they needed was balanced in from balanced than i can go to other areas. If i'd like right we can talk relationships. We can talk finances. His zany financial. Help just like anybody else. So so that's where. I transitioned is once i knew what they wanted. Then i wrote the book and from day one. It was actually a ago. Today will not today about last week ear ago. Matt where i went on social and said i'm writing this book. I didn't write the book for six months later. I didn't even write a word. But because i began the process of discussing the book bringing it out. It was the one focus that i had. And i did not lose focus for six months straight when i hit my sales goals. That came in because of the what the book did for me. And you could insert podcast. You can insert wlac. You get insert blog. Whatever you know youtube. Whatever you just hit that hard. And then as soon as i was able to promote it for that long and i wrote it. And here's how i did it. I had already created a course the advisers could go through. But i didn't create that all at once and belong. Matt i can keep going on this but said the the the log of this was the coach. Had before said. Don't try try to create a course and then try to sell it to people. Your coaching them create the idea. Get an outline. Get it ready and once you sell it then stay one week ahead. And honestly my favors client michael smith michael. I love you listening to this. He was fantastic. I told him after he. You're my very first client. That went through this whole process. I've done this for lots of other people but this is how how this work. I stayed one step ahead. But i had all the content all my head you were paying me to complete the course he loved. It was great. He's in my book. And and after i had the course i already had the content for the book. I have another core secreted to the exact same way. And that'll be my next book. And what i did is once i get to that six month. Mark i hit my sales goals. I press transcribe on rev dot com. And i paid seven hundred dollars. It transcribed for me. I said editor here you go. I paid a few thousand dollars from editor right most of the book and then she said okay. Time to put an a story here here here here here you get to write chapter one and chapter fourteen sweet so a delegated. I've lived what. I preach and teach the people i let go of the control who wouldn't wanna right every single word of their book like it's your baby. No you transcribe it in hen you spend most of your time financing it and i learned that in writing my dissertation. You don't have to write every single word you can get help so i highly recommend it. Well so i'm gonna proud mouth what you said there which is what we have found the most successful marketers do is. They have a very specific piece of content. Whether it's a course a book of log blog or whatever and then they use that to create lots of other pieces of content and you are the perfect person for that. You have absolutely done that right. It's interesting because you've kind of between some of the different medias that you can use like i mean taking a course attorney new book. That's freaking brilliant. Right and now. You've got the book now. You've got content for every podcast you're ever gonna probably do because you've got it in the freaking book right. You also have a book plus can give the book to somebody to help you right social media copy and now. This is a shameless plug. But i have to do this because We just recently got sponsored by stream and you're starting to use something to maximize the fact that you can do. Livestreaming shoot high quality video and also pull it out. It's a podcast at the same time. And so now your even more sync with your time. Do i mean. It's like a gift brother right. We call it that single point of entry. The single point of entry that can create all the other pieces of content. Now do you have people internally who helped create all of your social media stuff. How much time you spend on that in. How did you find somebody that you felt comfortable delegating that to for whatever reason i want to bring up derrick name sheriff and i we got connected. I think that's how you and. I are connected. Because derek as interesting as i was as i was bringing this content out to the world i was using facebook in lincoln and facebook casino. Their business page lincoln. I had lincoln since two thousand nine kind of dusted off and like okay. Let's let's let's see if this puppy will work. And i thought mel. Let's do facebook ads. I tried facebook. Ads failed miserably too much money to try to figure it out. It's i thought. what can i do. Organically linked in linked in has advised her solo over the place. That's where my market is if you're market as facebook your markets twitter if it's instagram affects. That's where they are at go there and go and do one really well. Derek not been. Does this extremely well. And i picked his brain and he gave me some great ideas. I talked to some others. I got some coaching at purchased. A book called about linked in. I dug into it when i realized this is going to be my one thing but so when on lincoln when lincoln lie became a thing i got. I got one of one of their streams in it took me several attempts. But then exactly what you said. I'm going to figure out. How can i use this. Other content for other places like youtube and facebook. And i'll keep keep the messaging going but it's all happening through zoom through re restraining to lincoln live tooling din to my people and as i did that i've been able to start finding people who work in the same space like you. Someone else. it just got off the phone with just as deny advisors like. There's a lot of different people who are non starting to connect with and now all of our voices are banning together. Were able to scratch each other's back in the marketing is now just snowballing. I went from average hundred views on on a an educational topic to fifteen hundred years. Because of how hitting it and then with linked in. I actually don't have a social media team. I'm it because i'll tell you when i put on organic content and i am nursing that throughout the week. It does so much better. Than if i i do gore pulse and so i can calendar some some stuff here and there and i'll have every once a day but there's one main topic that i have. I let it go on monday. And i nurse it the entire week and then the next week i did the exact same things one main post week and that has banned great. Because i get organic. People are content views likes shares. And i just connected those people say hey thanks. Thanks for supporting love to connect with you. That's it very easy. And if they want to connect with me and they're interested they usually say something the night create a conversation very natural. It's easy we call it. Opt in marketing. Your that's exactly what you're doing. I've just putting it into our terminology. And as as i had said to you at the beginning. One of the things that we say this is why i believe you're so successful. Is you have to find your ideal kleiner prospect in what media social media. They prefer you have to be there and then you have to communicate with them with organic content that's exit you're firing on all of those cylinders marketing. Data's perfection when it comes to marketing right now. Is it works absolutely. Do you need to monitor absolutely. But let's breakdown so your time management to right so it's all about balance. How many hours a week are you actively marketing your coaching company. I mean maybe five hours a week and most of the other time. I mean me personally that i'm putting into it because i'll i will en- here's here's the other way. I restrained map on my coaching calls with my clients. I will give a tip at the very beginning of my meeting with all my clients. And i'll mute there my external everything off and i'm giving the tip when i'm done it's recorded and it also is connected because it's on zoom it's connected to order dot ai. Which then transcribes the whole thing. And i spend about fifteen minutes where i download it edited. I take the tip out. I copy the transcript. I put into a blog. And i send that link to my assistant she finalizes it sends it out an email and then i take and i posted monday. Mornings live as video. Oh and i also. I i put it to read and rep. Does the captions underneath it. Take so i do to type of automation because it saves me time to cost me. You know five dollars a month. I offer and like three dollars a video. Do the captions on ramp. So i had that ready to go and that becomes my email newsletter for the week. It goes under link. Dan and and then it. I don't have to think. What am i gonna do for this week No i do at one time and then repurpose throughout the week. And then what's great is an i use it gore a pulse a social media content messaging. And i will i will. I will several months later. i'll say. Hey here's a thursday throwback right and i use that same thing and i now have him to my blog and on the blog at the very bottom of every blog is get the book. Get the book like it. That's the focus like every time is just getting them interacting so it has been a combination of so many of those factors but stream your stuff get it to the your actual audience in the form that they like it and then later that week i will take that live video and All spent another twenty minutes putting it into a linked in article up. Riposting it again. Repurposing it in a different forum and and using that as something to then share again so advisers. Who are listening to this. You can have really really focused robust amazingly engaging marketing by just following the whole system. That traffic just said. I mean that is absolutely everything that we have found will allow you to talk to your ideal clients and they're gonna listen because you're talking directly to them number to not kill yourself on time number three use your thought leadership over and over and over again you know life insurance guys always tell me you know. Matt you can spend that same dollar seven times before and i'm like oh i know exactly what you're talking about the cash value life insurance policy and private banking or personal banking or whatever. You wanna call it. I get all that we give the same thing with your content right. Why don't you do that in. you're already talking to your clients. Travis said that these are what i already talked to my people about. Why are you doing that. If you're concerned about compliance will tell you right now. It's very easy to get by that because anyway there's some just some really good systems that you don't have to worry about that like you. Don't use their frigging name or whatever whatever but anyway travis want that to me. There was the golden nugget for podcasts. I love how you just broke all of that down. I'm going to send that to my team. We're going to quote you on that stuff. That's exactly that's why we exist other. I mean we want we want to it's the rockstar coach right. Well our goal is for you to show up you. Do your thing dropped the mic. We do everything else for you. Which is almost every single solitary thing that you said that you do kind of independently now you have delegated a lot of that new software just magnificent but i think that's really cool now to thank you so much for giving our audience. Great now it's not just on how to focus and how to take that first step to achieve balance in your life but also talk a little bit about how you manage marketing without killing yourself if you connect with him on linked in which you should if you have not you're going to see the quality of content is unbelievable and he told you how he did it without killing himself. But if people want to engage you. Travis somebody wants to hire you the like dude. I love this guy feel. It was a connection there. What should they do to places. I go to achieving balance book dotcom achieving balanced book dot com. And right. now. I have it up as a free book. They can just pay the shipping anywhere in the united states. Some places in europe you know We'll ship it to you. Just pay for shipping. And that's a great first. Start showing who is this guy. Never heard of him. I wanna learn more about his stuff. Do that The book is amazing reviews on amazon. It's a number one bestseller internationally. It has maya entire process. You just heard me tell you. I transcribed my course. Obviously it does have some bonuses that has worksheets and things that go along with it. It's not a course like if you want the Get that too. But really if they want if they want to get the first step. I'm a big believer in if you want a long term relationship. You don't tell the persona. Mary you first date. You might think that but you want to try it out so so try it out. Get the book each like no. I'm way past that travis. Everything you just said. I want you know working gauge right. Now go to travis. Perry within a travis perry dot com forward slash coaching and set up a time for us to chat. It's a discovery call. And i will do exactly what i talked to mad about. The psychological deep dive will find where it's hurting. What's going on. Psychologically that's my coaching background. That's my psychology background. You will leave with clarity that you've never felt before just by talking this through. It's not sales is not a long term ending in eight. We're gonna now charge you. Whatever for year it is just the first step in its. it's a five hundred dollar value. I'll do free for your listeners. In thanks in return. So do those two things travis. Perry dot com for such coaching or good. Achieving balanced book dot com. Grab it before. We have to start charging for the book. He all right. We'll make sure that we have those in the show notes when this goes out traps. Thank you so much man. I off as as an amazing marketer. I want to thank you for doing such good work in our field in the number two. That good work allows you to help more people and anybody who is gonna come into financial services with a singular focus to help people have better balance in their life is entirely commendable and greatly. Appreciate all of your hard work. Thank you matt. And just so that. Everybody knows this is a great time to talk about it. There will be podcast. It comes from this book. Repurpose content right and i've got great guests. That will be on that podcasts. Going to continue sharing this message. So i thank you for the work that you thanks. Well if you're not subscribe to the podcast make subscribe now button below that way. Every time we come up the new podcast will show up directly on. You're listening device and also. There's somebody that you know that needed to hear this. The best way to do that is to go ahead and share this podcast. All you have to share share with your other fellow advisors other business people who you know who you know are out of balance in really truly need to achieve balance in their life so for travis and all of us here at problem. We'll see the other side of the mike very soon. Thanks for listening to the top adviser marketing. Podcast brought to you by proud mouth. 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ADC From the Start

Trapping Today

33:47 min | 3 months ago

ADC From the Start

"One year i got trapped. I liked to liked. And i liked where it'd be able to spend more time in the woods when i get into traps out. There is the hardest part. I think with leave the in the back of montrose. Lastly we're going to no matter. What guide trapped part of what you do. You don't ask them. You know everything this arkansas. China learn something from blended to ask questions without aspiration volume the maggots from her. Though gorman hurt running fired uphold the to fattening. Radio carcelle me. That's pretty by listenable developer system working to build traffic very good with your pal told about these big hands. Most of my to coming from down fought probably the best part church. Waiter back about fear of better back in the first shed. This is trapping today jeremiah. Thank you for listening in. It's great to have you here. We are brought to you by cots others k. hero s dot com trump's work. Harder enjoyed this assessment. 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And i'm planning to cut hay and i got the next three days off and hoping for big things but this ranges keeps pounding and pounding and pounding away at us women do but anyway so instead of complaining about it too much i decide to come in here and record the podcast early so i did a little interview with pat from massachusetts. We had a nice chat last night. It was A real long conversation. A lot of fun caught up and pat. If you don't remember pat was on episode one hundred and fifteen of the podcast back in february of twenty twenty seeing go back and check that out to learn a little bit more. Get some background. But when when he got on the podcasts then he was brand new trapper. So we're about a year and a half out from from that interview and it's it's really cool to check in and get kind of a little bit of a an update on his progression as trapper. Interestingly pat has simultaneously progressed in his trapping and his animal damage control work. And he's he's doing a sort of semi full-time two full-time animal damage control work now. In massachusetts and surrounding areas. So that's something that. I think is really commendable. Because it's hard to start a business like that and so he's really gone out and taken the initiative to to get out there and knock on doors make phone calls and figure out where the beaver problems are and convince people to To use his services so that was. That's that's pretty cool. So i'm going to split this interview into several different sections and tonight we're going to get an update from pat his progression as trapper his will damage work. A little bit about cages cage-trapping and trapping laws and massachusetts. Which are as you might imagine. Very restricted restrictive in often difficult to understand but pat will laid out for us. And i hope you enjoy this and let's get into it. Thank you for coming back on in jeremiah. Thank you for having me man. It's always a pleasure a low the podcast you put on. Why Writing for yeah for folks. That haven't seen a pat has done a couple of articles. Did i review on the mb. Seven fifty beaver trap and a review of on x maps and all the different things that he uses on x four on the trap line. We'll talk about that here. Probably a little later on. And i can't say i've gotten a bit stronger than my article. I was having trouble setting with the seven fifties by hand. But i don't know. I can get them no problem. Oh just a little muscle memory or the springs. Were down either on getting stronger. They're getting weaker so it was probably a year and a half last time. You're on. I think it might have been more. I think it might have been pushing years. So if i was real professional i would have gone back and listen to that i was. I was a stammering mess in the meantime that was. You're like a brand new trapper at the time all fired up and you just got started. Didn't have a lot of experience. But she had a lot of Pissy vinegar we get. And i gotta say whatever i got got worse so i've been hearing from you. Obviously in in your progression a lot of folks are probably going to be pretty excited or interested to hear how things have gone with you as a trapper. Yes oh why didn't want to go into too much detail i. It's enough time now. I don't think any of my customers. listen to this but a lot of the i started getting some towns and i'll tell you this is actually a funny story. I had a town. I'd only caught a handful of beaver cages. And i had this town hit me up little. Did i know that it was. It was the site that had been beat on by other trappers lake. Dry doing some nonlethal control. Maybe the topography wasn't well suited for dumped a bunch of money into that and dumb. I was a disppointed. Just get some traps to get get some more bieber traps. Get some calm stocks. Get some of the us. Is the coro on suitcase traps. A lot are really really effective. Beaver catching tools and Basically i had to just like a little small fibbing just basically like well. You know my traps kinda tied at some other sites which wasn't entirely wasn't entirely ally because they were they were on my airline. So i basically got this town to advance. Be the money. Wow why more traps. So that i can work in. Start to job immediately for them. And if we're all you guys out there first of all. Everyone is charging too little for beaver work. I can almost guarantee it and and the other thing is the number. I was thinking they're number was about five times what i was getting thing. I didn't open my mouth. 'cause we pox loses yet. Yeah i get some advice from an old timer one time. He bought a snowmobile from me. And he said i said he said my experience. You ask the guy. I price i what your best price. And then he. The new low volume You gotta insult him just enough to the point where he doesn't quite throw you away but at least opens up the the communication. You gotta just meet somewhere in the middle. You know a good negotiation is where everybody feels slightly cheated. Yeah so yes so then. I was doing a lot of odd jobs. Just trying to trap time and i did not start. Adc business like you should I've always been kind of like a free spirited like well. Let's see what happens. It will pick up the pieces later and I literally just kind of dove into it in the gut. The point where like aside from every now and then picking up a little side work when things are slow. I've been doing it full time now for about two two and a half years so so your experience as an adc trapper and a survey recreational or for trapper kind of both progress. That simultaneously. Yeah it's it's it's been really cool. I mean it's kind of nice a lot of the ad sites I've been guilty of setting a couple couple cages for And the while while more you can mix a little business and pleasure. It's year i'm going to be doing a lot of traveling lot of state hopping and stuff and I plan on doing a little mink muskrat line. I think on the way to my be jobs. And you know if i see some good cats and maybe maybe something there and stuff. Maybe try to get after some coyotes two and we have just been you know what really changed it for me and i don't want to spoil too much. I really wanna do this might be a spoiler But i'd love to a cage trap in article Because because that's that's you know as far as critters caught. Most of my creators have been in cages. It's only recently you know past few years past two years or so. that really started messing around with con economy converts. You can use mass under special permit using footholds and stuff like that. So it's been it's been a whole different game you know signs the same and everything's like that's insane but when i felt restricted with cages. I think it was. I forget what was but it might have been comstock on. Jones's podcasts old. What is hard to find but He was talking about will engage trap especially at double door one. It's no different than economy snare and it was just like something clicked you now and so i've just started a used. Those double more beaver traps like like like kana. Bears or wherever i put on a bear. If it's again not drowning set mass. It put him where. I put a con a bear or i'll put him where i would put a snare so it's kind of you know looking at it that way in those cora's minor pretty heavily modified which is an upper inside baseball that we can talk about at a later date but you know when you look at them. There's a there's a big four inch pan there a foothold. So any we'd set for old for beaver will you can set one of those coral traps. And you know i'm of the opinion and i sure this question for debate another other day but i i like the biggest trap that i can legally use. You know if i could if i could use you know ten inch full. Ultra bieber's i. Would you know if they made them. You know rather have that big kill area. And what's a coro- it's a giant forefoot Basically that just happens to instead of wrapped around there goes around the entire body. Yeah in my opinion. The in my view the biggest drawback of the cage traps is you've got to carry them around. I mean but because of the areas that you trap. I mean they're essentially all road access swell. Well no not always but yeah. I do a lot i've been doing. I do some Watersheds which is really cool. So i get some of the snacks Still sometimes i gotta fit into the woods and some of them you know there's one in particular they have walking trails around the reservoirs in through the reservoir sexually. Is this damage control work. Yeah yeah so. You're you're getting off the road. Yup yup reservoirs you already on. They can really wreck havoc or cripples per diem or any of that stuff so it's not a funding issue that particular ones. No they can't they have a. They have certain numbers that they have to test for. And if they're georgia tests are higher than x amount than they have serious problem and they can get fines and stuff like that. Okay so but the road stuff isn't so bad is when you have to try to have this colossal trap and try to hide it you know for the for the rubber neckers in the in the the do gooders so they think dude you know that. The only downside. That's the time where. I'm happy what i could pull apartment for gonna bears constantly sir den water. Yeah how has that been. Have you had issues with public harassing. You're messing with traps. Let me find some woodrow. Quit on no not yet. I had one stolen out of state. And i'm pretty sure i know who did it. In the concentration officers pressuring news knows who did it because he's notorious or but when someone when you go out of state anytime you gotta state and you don't know the guys in the area. They consider that they they think they own the trap line in chaps go missing. Well that's also. Actually i apologize actually to two tracks rolling but one was returned to me because i had a conservation officer out of state Not read my trap tag right into this was right after. I'd reported a one ten stall. And so i just i called him as you're suppose to just said hey just a heads up. I had one go missing. So you know something shows up in a little bit funny or something or whatever Reported missing and must have been day or two later. Or i had one eighty call traffic bilko missing which again i don't have that much money into it will now now. It's the price steel. I mean that's quite petty larceny. You know like i called. The conservation offers her worked with enclosed with travelers. Before any goes where was that. I'll now said it somewhere. I shouldn't have. I started to panic and he goes what where exactly what town i told him. It was a because. I don't think that's a trap. He goes another because another conservation officer. Thought you were somebody. That wasn't a wasn't supposed to be trapped in the grabbed it and the guy a british fella. He's real funny. And the first thing i said i said you know. It's a crime to touch somebody else's trapped and with and he goes. I'm sorry mike. I'm so sorry. Mike myers isn't it. Yeah your english. So it's like an english. Hires thing is that what's going on. I had laughing. He's like to put it back on. Like a panic. I pulled my whole line. Because i thought it was stepping on. Somebody's toes. i just pulled everything. Adding thousands are three. Actually he wasn't too far from where i was in. He drove down in. It was a good guy about it. But i was like you know next time i might have to press charges so just you just be careful as a warranty on so yeah that was. That was my couple. That were stolen than i had that. I think that's all the time i ran into him. He says you know somebody traps this property at got permission on the owner and nobody had heard from the other other trapper for two three years so they didn't off us live or whatever. I wasn't trying to you know. Take anybody's line. They built or anything and he was. That's me and we had a big big to do about that. So that wasn't that wasn't ideal that crushed some of my Son miche Dreams than one of my other properties whereas just doing some work for a friend. I had to pull up on it because i just got too busy with bieber which. I'm trying to avoid that happening this year. I'd like to get after some coyotes and cats in footholds I caught a few engages yet at the beaver work pace. It's it's hard it's hard to Is even to justify it to at least my girlfriend when i'm like am i gotta go to work to make money you know on like hey i gotta go chase by dollar muskrats. And i'm gonna drive a real long time to go get him to you little less understanding or is the vast majority or all of your animal damage. Control work beaver right. Now i've been branching out up until recently it has been but it's just been I've been. I've been really trying to you know we just bought a house and i'm really trying to you. Know gotta get a new track before the season. 'cause mine is a walking beacon to law enforcement officers. It's just not ronald gooden. Just need to get that one off the road and retire it as you know. Yeah you get a call need go somewhere. You gotta have dependable track. Yeah yeah exactly. And ideally power steering like lights at work you know and you know not not a bucket rest in all those thank safety and whatnot so but yeah and so you know you know trying to get this house you know. We bought a farmhouse but Garage shed and so in my old place. I had an apartment. I was putting up for the adding. It was like one of those barely finished addicts where he just like. Threw down supply with all the good enough that it was a mess than i put up a lot of critters that attic do you new place it's It's i had time. Yeah yup hopefully a if not this your buddy that lives for minutes away. That cultural basement that he has kindly offered to me. He's real passionate about like clean skulls and he does a little home tanning and stuff like that. So i've been trying. I've been trying to pay him to put up by far. Not that i don't love it. Do catch a decent amount especially with the beaver. Work at those are time consuming. And i've been trying real hard to bring to the dark side and like having my first guy he says now he goes because i love it and i don't want to ruin that and i'm like that's smart. I should've thought of that not the I still love it but on every now and then it does. Sometimes you're like. Oh i am. Doing real work is actually. This is actually work as far as it is of the beaver stuff. You're probably doing as much physical work as you're right. Yeah yeah those things you know. Clients get real real real personality if you just leave carcasses on the property you know. I don't understand it. I mean it attracts coyotes and stuff like success him you know but wanting so yes so it's To luckily yet. It's i've been trying to branch out. I've been doing some more exclusion stuff and it's it's hard not to get into that. I mean i do know some guys. That are high number beaver guys. That's all they do but they also got into later in life and maybe had some side businesses and stuff you. I'm just trying to look at all aspects of it. you know. I think i was telling you before. I might might caribbean license in. Might you know been messing around with some lures and formulate and stuff like that and you know that's been baskin cooler. I like that To buy and to just basically. I mean eat sleep and breathe trapping and it's neglected my fishing and hunting and i wouldn't change it. I think i told you last time. If i if i had to choose you held a gun to my head. Hunting fishing trapping. You can only pick one. I probably pick fishing but only because you can do it year. Round you know. But trappings real close. It might it's With the damage work you can drop year round. Yes it's true but man catching summerbee sucks man you can put up catherine's but like i'm carrying balloons out of the woods that are exploded on me and stuff like that you know it's it's yeah it's not it's not the same as on the same as pulling up on a nice london. You know it's gonna be a beautiful. I can't wait to put it up like when it's cold. I eat a lot of the i. Actually that's one of my idea. Do the back straps a lot but actually do Call it cast door asada. Like i do like a like a carne asada but but the beaver in spanish has cast a war so i do it like a steak taco with with bieber like salon stuff. It's real it's real tasty so yeah so. Yeah i've just been part of the i think Before you know so. I was so nervous when i was especially really green. Still wicked green. Let's not us not totally punches about it. But when i was even more grain i was also just worried i was going to lose it in the weirdest. It's a weird thing. I felt like if i don't trap like if i don't stay on it if i don't keep reading sign. Keep hammering on them. I don't you know work real real hard. Like i'm gonna have to like. I don't know i'm at to relearn how to do it next season. So that's like that is one of the good things like you gotta keep your sharp so the the adc stuff definitely by the time trapper season rolls around unlike firing on all cylinders. So this time of year i'm just catching up on projects. Licking my wounds you know. How do you find business. Dude i just i straight up old school boy scout it just like door knock people and it's it's probably not the best i've had some people advised me that i should probably get a better website or in by veteran me nate website and maybe do some marketing or something but honestly it's all been word of mouth i've been i'll literally just i'll call you know like this time of year and i've actually had a lot of stuff come to fruition from scout like from like prospecting in years past all call every dpw in an area work say this is what that's probably a unique thing to massachusetts at people. Outside of the area will know about. Is that because of the trapping ban. Basically you need Well first of all there are so many animal damage problems because the beaver population exploded after advance trapping. The exception allows for trapping with the permission from public works departments different towns right or the health department. So we're actually Don't tell anybody but we're actually a lot like main. Were where one way. We don't need permission. It's it's not hosted so if it's not posted land we slam in a set. You know it's with the now if it's out of season than we have to. We have to pull apartment so that allows us are Cages out of season During the season you can trap beavers without permission from the town. Correct if you wanted. But nobody's doing it because again. Those core traps now are about five hundred dollars. You can't use body grips you can if you pull the permit. But they've been cracking down as far as pulling permits out of In season because they say will you can use cages. And so there are. There are some stipulations. You can't make a case and some towns are different than others some towns. You'll have a board of health director that hates strapping. And it'll take it'll take an act of god to get them to give you an emergency permit to use khanna bears and then others are like you. I have one town. I could call him right now and i have about half an hour you know. As a ham about about application he goes no prob which town which bought problem. When do you want me to date at for okay. No problem all right. You'll have your inbox in half an hour. So so cage-trapping was never banned. Not heat trapping never band but you do need to pull that same firm. It's the same permit to use a condom. Bear as it is to trap out of season in our bieber season goes from november. First april fifteenth. So so basically what. I've been doing for work. I would literally just find a spot and i'd be like are having to call every town in this area and then one out of six maybe would get back to me. Oh yeah we bunch prompts. I figured had. I had a feeling you know and i mean on i just i just turned thirty this year so You know a lot of the guys that were doing our aging out. You know so it's been it's it's not great for recruitment and all that attention so on so forth but i have been afforded the opportunity to trap a lot of places that i never would've if it was a competitive for market or if it was affordable for somebody to get into it you know i was just on like i'd love to do a little mink and muskrat line with the boys in state but you know it's it's you know trying to catch him and try and catch them alive and is is is a is a difficult task to say the least. So so yeah. I've been doing some state offices. I've actually gotten some control work for some other state. Highway department said a pretty substantial contract which has been keeping busy which is where than messing around with Footholds and like. I said i'm not trying to. I'm not trying to blow up a any state spot. And i don't wanna you know. Give the anti any any ammunition. Because i'm sure i'm stir. They're i'm sure they're out there and i'm sure they listen to this thing so you'd be surprised. Maybe maybe a couple but i i really don't think the spindle. Maybe if they can catch like a thirty second blast that they can latch onto. They might but to sit around and listen for a lot of hours you. You might even be turned into a trapper you enough. Well that's you know. That's the my favorite thing about the damage. Control is the people that would never i would never and then it's their problem and they're like oh kill them all them. You know it's great. It's amazing how fast they get cold. You know and i was. Just listen to some other meteor podcasts. They're saying acceptance for wolves directly correlates to how The inverse of how closely you live to them yet your backyard. Suddenly you're you're here's matic mega-fauna stock goes way down. If you're in the city you know you like you might like the idea of wolves more than like the actual animal all the positives. The negatives exactly so it's been really cool. I've i've been very blessed very fortunate in the Just road dogg in it. Just putting a lot of miles on my truck and just hustling hard literally. I can sit down somebody and just stick to explain to me. Even if they don't have a problem like i can talk the conservation aspect of it. I can explain. I've gotten pretty well versed in the biology especially beaver. That's my that's my forte. For sure and it's it's it's been great you know. I've been amazed at how even big contracts that might say. Hey we have the allocation process. You gotta do x. y. and z. Like certain things that ramp up my insurance coverage from Let's just say Between none and one and though like some of these things ramp up the vehicle coverage in ramp up by early coverage on that sort of stuff. But it's also got me the door with some of these bigger contracts doing stuff for you know bigger state highway departments and stuff like that and at even doing some residential and stuff. It's amazing you know if you do good work and you you just are just honest with people and and do just say you're gonna do and solve the problem. It doesn't even might thing. Is you know sometimes. You don't kill them all. Sometimes you just got to solve the problem. You know if they're if they're not damaged if they're not flooding. I call that a victory. You know yeah. Yes if i think. Clint locklear said this one time. Few do if you just do what you say you're gonna do. You're ahead of ninety percent of everybody else also contractors. I mean having just bought a house contractors nightmare to deal with no disrespect. Any of you out there. I'm sure you're all wonderful. People in one upstanding businesses but having to deal with lawyers and contractors insurance people. I mean there's some real out there. Let me tell you people on my wife. And i talk about this all the time anytime. It's it's it's everything in life it's people you have to deal with like can communicate effectively this part of the animals. They you know they they act. They act exactly how they are supposed to. Then it's the people that are real nightmare. I'll show up next week and then three weeks ago co by. Oh yeah you call. And he doesn't even ask surprised like oh. Yeah yeah you're gonna show up fast fun thing. I've been deal which. I haven't gotten into with with the like the the bigger contracts. I didn't realize this. But you get paid monthly or sometimes bimonthly like i didn't realize that cashflow problem by weekly patients now. You might see it in thirty days if it's if it's less than sixty consider yourself lucky paperwork in invoicing stuff while the worst. It's the worst. I wish i could just cut off tales male tool merson. You know. But no sometimes i have to send invoices and all that sort of thing and it's not fun. That's that's the side of it. That is a trapper. I'm like i want to be in the woods. I just wanna to be outside as one because critters in implant in the swamp. I don't wanna be. I don't want to be doing paperwork. That is interesting though to grab onto highway department contract as a brand new trapper. Essentially it was a town one. But then i got one town and then i could use that. Town is a reference. And i was like. Hey this is especially bombing hugger town and I was able to use them as a reference. Will this guy can do it. Quietly and discreetly me as no problem sneaking in at four in the morning. We're throwing on a fluorescent best. In hard hat to try to hide in plain sight and that this that that sort of thing and then they tell the neighboring town Pretty quick you than a lot of my mentors from mass trappers I got more involved with mass trappers. I was a member since the first year. I didn't just because i know how to how to join in i. Didn't i think when. I took trapper in. How the money or something. Because they offered after trapper Join the the state organization but have been getting really involved with that. I'm actually on the the executive board from mass trappers which is a huge honor In this dusty the state trapping association in massachusetts yep massachusetts trappers association. Police fall some facebook. We've got a great community there up. We have a nonvoting membership. So i think like ten bucks or something so if you want to do that or bypass patch or something. We'd certainly love it especially could use. The we could definitely use the members were were the second words great state in the union for trapping. California's get you be. They got us beat. Just barely i mean if things go much worse will be. We'll be there with them. you know. That's it for tonight's episode. Hope you enjoyed it. And now it's time for the spots message of the week. I believe the time of recording. Cuthbert still has a limited supply of t s eighty five beaver traps ready to be shipped. So that's been a three to four week backlog for those if you if you've been ordering them But i believe they still have some they. They start to catch up a little bit and they could ship those out right away so Be sure to try and get on that while you can because it's going to be harder and harder to find supplies as we get closer to the season. I believe that everything's kind of everything that's coming from. A distant in require steel especially is getting either more expensive or difficult to find also be sure to check out the clearance and specials when you're on the cuts bros. website to take advantage of some deals that they may have going on. Thanks scott spurs. Thank you guys and till next keep on talking traffic. He bought thinking trapping. We will catch you on the next episode.

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#87 G&Q&P Learn from an Octopus

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53:29 min | 5 months ago

#87 G&Q&P Learn from an Octopus

"It yeah welcome. Gene key review where we reviewed the best tv and film the world has to offer and sometimes some other stuff too one a we check and review. What's going on. What is going on quinn. how're you doing. Well i'm good is a p g and cuban guys. We have an announcement to make. It is our third gets. It's actually the same guest. Same third time. The trade show triple feature is no him. You'll you'll love him. You love to hate him or you love to love him. Patrick manning. welcome to the broadcast. It's good to be back. it's good it's good it's good. I'm excited i think You know it's really fortunate that i keep winning this like name in the hat contest for all the the right ends i just look on my side will if you put if you make a comment on the blog q. Review dot com. And your name gets put into a drawing and if you are selected each week you get to be on the podcast ex. Yeah don't don't mail in your comments your mail. Does that get read. Yeah if you remember our last episode with patrick you know he. He's the one who's been sending us things to our po. Box all the time and We felt you know for his inconvenience you know. I guess we have so many people requesting to be on the podcast but we to get an patrick again. You know just out of courtesy. It's very kind credible. Before we get started. I just have a quick question is a cultural question for my ohio boys so i think the yes exactly. I already knew that one. So i didn't want to ask that one but cdc fully vaccinated no masks needed out. And i'm just curious if that was a shift in behavior in your side of the well ted. So patrick actually just visited and we went to kentucky and i called because it was going to be three people a brewing company and i said hey guys got room for three you know and they're like oh yeah i mean we just dropped restrictions so like you can just go on the rooftop lay. Everything's fine like you can just stand around and everything's good no restrictions. We're like. I was just as table but palm and actually today was the first time i went to release in ohio Like The beer store and they have liquor and stuff too and Says on the door. No mass required. I so people were wearing masks because i think ohio they did have a june date set. Dropped it confused. We're going to go now we're ready. We're ready meanwhile california pump the brakes a little bit. There were waiting until june fifteenth rainy changes to the law. So does that mean. Are they promising. No master new promising shit. They just said june fifteen possibility that anything will change. Yeah yes so. They just like set a date News coming june fifteenth. Yeah they're like whoa. I mean this was a while ago. They said yeah. June fifteenth will look in the reopening things in than all. This happened in. What will we're still looking. At this june fifteenth date. It's like we all were supposed to go to d. c. and the organizer pasco. He tweeted out. He's like this week. There's gonna be some big news. Tell me california's late. June fifteen there may or may not be big coming out. Who knows what the hell's going to happen. I was just curious cassia. Nothing's purgatory did you think -partment no and i think emily is asked the lady who's running the building. My girlfriend a twice when the gym is gonna be reopened over like a year that we've been here as an open never been open sand set her. It's been a couple of months be three months since she asked previously sushi's Senator another email got the strangest like auto replies. I think my landlord blocked. Emily's e mails. Ask the going to go like twice fleiss. Yeah it just send him on email. I did wilted nice. Did you get auto replied. I did not get the auto reply this is. Maybe the second time i do. It would be but just a wild explanation. She's like no. We're consulting with nepotism urologists. Like we're doing all this stuff like just over the door. Extremes have been open for awhile. Gyms have been oakland for awhile over you live. Yeah sure james have been open. How i mean since march february february march. Ya not in california's you told me. Quintile fifteen home. I think our apartment is open in some capacity but commercial is closed at least in l. a. county. They long story short. They've opened up things legally. You can have like what twenty five percent of people thirty percent percent of people in an indoor gym but none of these places actually have reopened. Because they're like i. I don't know if they're permanently closed or they're waiting until they can do one hundred percent Interesting it's it's sad I heard that California's actually one of the worst with a vaccine rates. No one in california wants to get their eggs. Is i think the lowest state in terms of what the books. Yeah maybe it was like the lowest of young people or maybe it was like a smaller democrat. I thought it was lois day. Yeah we'll follow up with figure it out any other questions. I have no questions. No questions no mask no no problem what. What are we talking about this week. Well you guys all know we had a little Oscars stint there. You know we did our oscar movies and you know we were off of them. We switched to house moving castle By miyazaki and studio ghibli and We got pulled back in. You know. I asked I'm sure you guys all listen to our podcast last week We he talked a quin. It's the ball is in your court. What are we watching. And we picked my octopus teacher. Which won the best documentary of twenty twenty It is at twenty twenty netflix. Original documentary film directed by pippa lich in james read and the documents a year spent by filmmaker craig foster forging a relationship with a wild common octopus in a south african kelp forced thing that sums it up pretty well. You guys think Well i wanted to ask pat. I patrick mr patrick. Did you get a chance. Did you re watch this movie. I know you've seen this movie before. I did not wash it. I feel like. I talked about it a little bit with my sister today just talking about. It's not complex movie you know. It should visually beautiful. But it's pretty simple I don't think you're gonna like catch the hidden twist the second time around. All were shadowing octopussy. Does that thing. Ooh i know is in a year. Yeah i i don't know if there's a shinjo it let's get her opinion odd. She's gotta watch it. She said she would. You think she's like neither sought scrolling through netflix's saw pop up. Yes she saw pop up pat. Would you think what did you tell her. I told her it was a man. Search for passion Reinvigoration through a simple lesson with the octopus. Tell her she should watch it. Yeah i said it was really good. I wasn't trying to its It's so simple you don't you can't over explain it. you know. Even the wikipedia what grant read. This is a short and sweet but wasn't wasn't short. Was that time this guy spent in the water. And i was trying to track down because you know in the wikipedia says like this film shows how in twenty ten. He began free diving. In first of all this water's cold is hell man. He six forty degrees fifty degrees. The tip of africa no wetsuit doing some wim. Hof iceman shit. The southern tip of africa. Yes now the northern tit south up and this movie comes out in twenty twenty and as been if he is he still in the water right now. He's still in the water. he's going every day. And i think what the time looks like is he. Correct me if. I'm wrong when the water basically every every single day from like twenty two who knows twenty eighteen. But it wasn't until twenty seventeen where he started to. I dunno refound the octopus and then after seven years of this because he was having a midlife crisis she's like i'll long live crisis my guy now. It's like you're going to have your three-quarters live crisis. You keep running. Spent seven years in the water. Who knows how he can afford time-wise to go on diving trips. Every day was pretty low. Budget his equipment in it looked that i guess it's just him. It's any doesn't have a wet suit you know it's like it's family's house where he grew up you know. Yeah it was close to yeah. He said forgot about that. In the beginning he was describing. How when he was like a kid. The bottom half of his house was like at the high tide point so like wave crash at his house. These use of that cold water would wake him up so he finds the octopus twenty seventeen. And then i think he gets the whole crew together to start helping him film this. Because i mean there's a lotta shots were he's not. It's not first-person. Pov so was it. The same octopussy found in twice nineteen. A yeah i think so. I think i think there was only one octopus. For the end spoiler alert twist find a little tiny pose. Three watch potential but it just. These spent a lotta time in the water. And that's all. That's a lot longer than i would have guessed and i don't know how i feel about that. Was it make you make you feel less. Make you feel one of my one of my things about this film That rubbed me the wrong way. A little bit or it's just a little too much was Is a little melodramatic at points. And i thought You know the live lesson. He learned One didn't need to be done by an octopus and to a pretty straightforward life lesson. And i it took him seven years right. he's like he's talking about. I don't know being lawson. It's like if you weren't be closer to your family. Maybe not spend every day in the water for seven years. That's a saddle help. And so that's star trek. I can again. That's going through. My head was going through my head. Watch this it's like do. I mean yeah like i get what you're saying with. Dr is teaching a lesson but man like you know the is beautiful. I'm sure i've never done anything like that. But i mean seven years of diving forward to meet and octopus you know. i thought it was a little melodramatic. I'm an octopus. Yeah it's cool but he almost like octopuses if it was like special light. It's a many active pie or octopus octopus. The playwright there's many occupants like when he like is not. I know about her. When i when i go to bed. I think i was like this fucked octopus crossover relationship for sure. It's crazy that you're interacting with the same octopus animal at the same place every day. That was that was thinking that oceans being in the ocean a couple times. You don't know what's where go in the water. And he's finding these mapping out the whole were own without like scuba equipment getting up. He's to go down he's gonna go up a constantly so yeah it was. It was weird relationship. But i think he found some purpose. It wasn't like looking for it. You just like i don't know i do in life i'm gonna ocean and yeah i know i end. It's just like he's talked about his marital problems to point. And i'm like maybe you should stop. Dr police read second your life. Go for a run craig. So he did. He is divorced from the mother of you. Know things on me or something. Okay and his new wife isn't environmental filmmaker who actually worked on backed teacher. She was a producer for it said. Maybe she was encouraging him to find the fashion production. That's true i was gonna ask. I saw. She was indian. Was like wait. That kid was not at indian strong white teens. But maybe you know he's going into the water maybe the octopuses teaching him that he can be trusted because it is a pretty powerful thing to like. Put yourself out into nature in Intelligent thing you know coming like interact trust. You almost like form this. It was a pretty beautiful relationship with you. You know now. yeah. I definitely don't want to sound like i think it was very cool. It was very interesting and cool and one to learn a lot about octopus is occupy in and how smart they are intelligent. They are and yeah. It's beautiful it is very cool. I just thought and maybe it's just like his individual. Just i just thought like he was like knowing about it. You be like did like imagine if this is your friend. You're like. I got the octopus again. He's bringing out octopus again. She allowed a little bit. You know i. I got those vibes to but it is it. I don't notice still spat like that is crazy special. I think they had to do it. I mean that's the whole year dockyard about it's tough bringing in other. Let's just say there's some you know there is a narrative there's just some cringe quotes. This is a little cringe. Says a little too much little too melodramatic coming from the. He said there's no better feeling on earth with an animal like that and my note was no wonder you have marital problems. It'd be linked. That's that's it that's like i'm sure it's like a very special like i'm sure it's like a one of a kind feeling. But that's the best feeling on earth is like dude. I mean i feel like human interaction can compete that the birth of his child. Maybe if the octopus was talking wouldn't that be more interesting. Oh yeah like a human Interesting no no. I think it's just so foreign. You have a lot of scientists this is what like scientists don't do. They're not in the water like physically interacting with animals. It's not what yeah. That was really interesting for him. Like the lack of resources when he is trying to research the to push his behavior. I thought i'm a little skeptical on that point 'cause i was like. Oh that's so fucking cool like if he like. He discovered this like octopus. Evasion hiding technique from like real experience that he couldn't figure out just from like literature. And like if you just google shit like they octopus they grab onto shells and they hide themselves. What about before the movie and this is where we saw. This is true. Well could it be on i. Four years ago was two thousand. Seventeen i dunno. It's you'll be a bag of air point. Yeah you could spend like octopus shell. I can't find it asking about this. Looks like a ball. I mean i was like i don't know what the hell it's doing. Had sort of eureka moment when he saw inaction which helps the narrative so i thought it was pretty cool I thought it was crazy. That octopuses only live a year that to me like what is that true like. I'm just a small one though. Isn't that create. Like it's just crazy to me that like when you talk about evolution like that intelligent creature when only live a year for some reason. I have a correlation my head of longevity of life and intelligence but i guess that correlations not there yeah it is crazy outsmart. They are though. Yeah i see the end like it was like as smart as legged cat or dog. Yeah something like that. Which makes it even like. Imagine so being. Like i. I spent like every day for like a year observed. My cat like we connected on like a different level like me and my cat. You'd be like. I know it's wrong with you. But that's lace. Everyone like octopus. you don't even know what to think. Imagine you're going out to like the mountains though and you're like sleeping with a pack of wolves you know that would be like pretty weird pretty wild anything except you like imagine. They're just like the outcome. Ran up to you. And you're like licking on their new. That would be pretty like. I don't know that'd be a pretty cool. Experience has their y'all howling together like going on rip into mousse or something happened. Yeah i don't know why he gets like me that much. The dog example. Hanging out with my dog and mike god. Smart dogs are right. This thing like i ain't no dogs said fit. And then he placed his rear. He really had a connection there. It was like no better feeling on earth and interact with an animal like that. And that's how he said it to like a direct them. You're like okay. All right dude overall you know i. I've sounding negative but you know this is what i can tend to to do i. I enjoy the film like it's very interesting where watching again i don't know but it's very it's as much as it's a novel experience for him. It's a novel experience for the viewers. Well you're like. Oh this is crazy and has gorgeous. It makes you wanna explorer Especially the beginning talking about like how it is like sci fi and i mean dude it is you. You don't see your so unfamiliar with like the sea in the ocean in how That you know ecosystem like plays out you know so it's very interesting. Yes south african general own. So beautiful i would just love to go there at some point kind of fucked up but you know but still equal go. Yeah like the nature's gorgeous it's movie feels like it would be something played at like the great lakes scientist center like the amax screen. Feel like that's a great that's a Yes which is likely they are cool in their interesting and maybe they have a moral. But it's i don't know if it crosses that like that was amazing. line I thought you were going to say so. You said i thought you were going to say you know like the museum exhibits where they have like benches and like a movie playing the you kind of like sit you like. Maybe we'll watch the whole thing. Where maybe we'll watch minutes. You know what i'm talking about. I know what you're yeah on there like. It's just like in video thing down. Then you're like all right. Let's those are usually ass. I hope it's better than in those are like. Can we move on police. Raiding those like does it won't be there are weird to just be like the same shot you know p all super slow on until there are yeah. Apparently he took a little break between his first dive in two thousand ten to head to much where. This is the over okavango river. He dove in it. Seven octopus said twelve foot crocodile that he was hunting. Fuck all the dragons feast he was. There's a film earlier is a documentary before this. He was hunting the gardo not i. I don't know haunting craig. Foster dragon see spring thing. This is a great segue to my second quote and he said oh known. This nightmare is happening all over again when the shark was adopting an octopus. Yeah dude like Nature and sharks. I mean like it's it's a nightmare. I mean yes it's like. Unfortunately i don't know. I you so melodramatic about like everything was like. Yeah you know. It's unfortunate that dr puts might die but it's a nightmare. I mean especially if you're hunting and crocodile. It's wise octopus better than the fucking crocodile. My guy i can. I can see but he was like snuggle in the octopus in news thinking about her at night and then goes down. You know he's a night. That was scary as hell. That was imagine that if you've ever been in the ocean at night greenville i like it. I've been close. I have never been submerged. That's terrifying is especially in a kelp forest all those things touching you other sharks like right next to him. Is like a flashlight. Did i guess he had film crew. Does it really matter her. Still find a liar. Fi comfort do you. Have you been to like like your parks like a forest at night like yeah. I've gone to the metro parks at night. Like pass closing. And that's just here by a lot of noises. You're like come out to my age. you know. you're like yeah just step outside and sh- could've at same with the pepper clean and we'll get real dark. Remember about the bonfire. Tell which ways which like. I think i like your shoes. Streets could see the street. And i was like i know. I don't wanna go towards the street. i mean ago. it's all disorder reminds when we were in yosemite quinn. When we exactly where in the middle of that my god island thing we were just trying to get back yeah. It's no fun being in nature in the dark. That is not fund. Almost feel like there's an element luminary like. Yeah i feel like humans you like are on edge. And i think it's hard to override that because you're like i can't fucking see your human body is like the non nocturnal news like you need to find shelter now coupled with going into the ocean. We're given in the ocean like do imagine the temperature then. Oh no oh yeah. See that actively cold baby coming you kind of touched on this grant. This is one of my last points that i wanted to bring up so i saw a lot of good reviews. A lot of people. Love this movie. Oh my god. It's fantastic blouse touched. I was moved. This was amazing. I saw out of the you know one stars in a lotta hateful comments. Do you know to either of you know why these people hated hated this movie. Did he interfere with nature. They feel like he interfered with nature. In fact it was the opposite grants when he didn't exact shark went in attacked the octopus. He did not interfere. So people call in specialties. Crybabies on read it. They look calling him a monster. Ruin the film blah blah blah blah blah. Say his best friend you know. This is the octopussy think spot. All the time is true. I dunno relationship us. why didn't get. That's why it felt like it wasn't drama. Felt like melodrama here like dude. You cannot really think that your interactions with this art. The best feelings in the world right like you more person your life. I hope i yeah. I agree with that because there would be a higher calling if that was the best feeling. You would interfere. Because what's what's stopping you from saving this then something that's more important to you which is like the order of nature. Whatever she was saying. Yeah i i. I know he probably said that quote. You wrote it down. That's it's recorded. proponents. I disagree with the criticism. It's not no i. it's not his kid. It's like someone it's something that he had a connection with for a short period of time and it's not interfere with the fucking shark that's like nature off of her. I'm one over with you. I agree with what you said I didn't feel like he should have when i was watching it. All you know But i just was making the connection that you know that could have been why had such an issue with the melodrama is like it didn't feel like true leg it was overly dramatic. You're like dude. Come just be real about how cool it is like why you painting this story leg thing like gear outlook on life. I guess it could have. I don't know man is like yeah. If it touched you that deeply how could you like if it if it sparked up any feeling in you that you'd never felt in your you know forty years of life or however the is forty five years of life you would save it from the shark right so he's being a little dramatic And i don't think the film needed that drama i don. I don't think in needed more. I would like over the top drama. I think it could have been just as good. Without some cringing quotes there are always cringe quotes in nature documentaries like into it all komodos like i don't know there's always like over the top ridiculousness because like without the i don't know how exciting it actually is. You know it's beautiful. Like i guess the element of like hype up the octopus. I'm cool with that. Hyping up your love and moving and being moved by. The octopus is weirder to me. That's fair. who are you grant to say that that that man not have those feelings. That's where i'm saying if you add all those fucking feelings when he saved the artists. No i don't think so because it's the it's i think if you really thought about it like day and night like he goes to bed thing about art was wasted thinking about the octopus octopus like. He's eating his cereal in the mornings on you argue into art boost the it's a necessity of life like if you if if we take some sort of natural death for human maybe just you're getting old. Are you gonna do everything and you have someone you care about. You love deeply like you're not going to go to the ends of earth to to save someone from getting old you know. Actually i like this too. Because maybe he was having a hard time coping with loss. And letting go. And this was his moment where he did you use like. I can't hold onto octopus. I gotta linda shark. I gotta let it play out mangle. Shit tom down our search shit because he's been doing you know documentaries for in like all the craziest places in the world or a kind of doing a similar thing. You know wouldn't be as like you know. He's much more in tune with the natural order of things in any investor. And i'm sure like the guides leg at the beginning when he was talking about his early haunting or tracking days when he was filming. Sure it's you would hope that those trackers and like there that's like a comment and it's like a law like we do not interfere with the animals. You know like we have we do not. There's not our do as not our job. So i can see that. I can see that you use other documentary. Didn't go over so well is it has a four of us on amazon. Prime video and people are upset. State's control of apex predators is not acceptance. And this was mostly talk. Talk talk annoying music. Yada yada yada crock. Yada yada yada. People would shut up some nice underwater footage of crock swimming though which was dragons feet. Dragons feast twice. He's got a follow up. Your pre touching the drug in the dry. I couldn't find anything on that one. I don't think this big break man. It definitely was. Craig foster touching with dragon tv movie. Twenty thirteen through this is like the investigate stories of men calling wild crocodiles out of the river and a crocodile shaman. Who can swim in random back of a giant crocodile without being eaten. Wanna watch that one that will into the dragon's lair to the third one and sets the first one. I wore a cave hundred. Meter deep. Cave were giant. Crocodiles drag their prey. I think that's another reason. This one Kinda got famous is not a lotta Comes out of a lot of famous. Notable stuff comes out of south africa so this was like a big project in really kinda. Put them on the map. Because who the hell's heard of any shit is the only one with a wikipedia. Page mayak more than ten reviews. I mean really. It's much easier to make to like going into a crocodile cave eat in the nile. It is i mean. I don't think he's going in the water. Hope not says it's called into the cave going in there. Maybe that was his. There's some sort of a metaphor like crocodiles like his ex wife or something she dragged. Beuningen go but i survived exactly. Then he just wrote on the back and conquered it hooked up with this other woman. Have you guys eating octopus before. Yeah yeah continued also after the movie. Yeah that was. Another reddit comment Well i've had like Like the tentacle with all the suction cups and that was really good. But now that. I know you know they can grow them back like there's no more humane. Yes yeah yeah yeah. That's probably how they do it. We can only cut off to you. Guys give it. I do feel a little weirder about it. I mean they are but like in terms of intelligence. I think cows are pretty fucking intelligent. Pigs are eggs. Elgin the dogs. That's a whole other discussion. I think my teacher my pig teacher big taught me to roll around in the thick. Should quit your job every day. Twenty four hours with rocky throwing my dog. my puppy has been. Yeah yeah they don't have any things no human could teach me. I figured out if you give your animal scrumptious treat four do something. They'll continue to do that behavior. It's fascinating really. I figured out. I could throw up and then eat my throw-up delicious really. We should all do this. The only thing holding me back was side on the arms near sparta's cats all right. I took it too far. Who thunk it was. Short and sweet didn't overstay its welcome it. I think it accomplished its goal. I don't see maybe besides toning down the nullah dramatic parts. They weren't i mean. I'm just complaining and finding something to kind of riff on in terms of the movie like You know i didn't detract. Anything for the most part. It was still very interesting and compelling throughout. I wasn't like man. This is is just kind of like making it. Make fun of movies for much them so making guys kind of cranston like come on kept you engaged. Did it did. It could have like mixed issan out of it. I mean i. I see why it felt like it was slapped on at the end. Yeah it's like he's a marine biologist himself poem about nature checked but i guess he found the little octopus is that right suppose i mean supposedly according to the near the media's narrative. Yeah i found one too i'd calamar this weekend in orlando right is that was insensitive. I ever all the shootings. That's squid veteran twitter. Post anything else boys. Final thoughts stephan. It's about that time the g. q. And p pan in review where we decide whether the true rating of my octopus teacher is over under the imdb. I cannot wait when i cannot wait. Hit me with it. It's it's it's high. It's an eight point one with thirty six thousand votes guests. I guess last guest i. Of course okay. Mr patrick i think although i would rate it lower than eight point one so under correct. Correct yacht it. That's the gene q. And patented riera. What's your reason behind that. I'm trying to compare it to you. Know i feel like eight point one. It's pretty high up like some great movies. I think over time that would fall down a little bit. So i become the seven point five but it was good. It wasn't like anything different than watching like planet earth which is beautiful but like it didn't like planet earth which is great and cool and fits a certain occasion And kind of took it a step further but in the end it's still. I almost don't like that. They took a step further. Because it's like if. I'm watching something like that. I like that. It's just like you know removed from humanity. Yeah i feel humanity. Get a b. craig. You know you get exactly experiencing in that situation instead of like listening to craig fall knocked. I don't need craig's his commentary. That's like i don't know on top of things and then like his son miche project kelp forest whatever. It was cool his insights into the area in its relationship with south africa. But like beyond that way. I don't his marital problems in ghana. I'm with you and just for some context. Your intuition is right. If you look at the ratings of the top two fifty movies you know. They started eight. So it's not on the list. I they have some other algorithms erred. A number of ways in terms of rating alone. It would definitely be on here at eight point one. Yeah so you're in under as well grants. Yes i'm under as well. I think i'm in under two. I was thinking about going over. Just you know. Piss off some some crybabies. Just people that i. I don't piss me off but i think that was a pretty accurate. Where you the planet earth stuff is like. Yeah you are craig. Did they get so close. To those goddamn animals. You're seeing some natural behaviors and interactions and the storyline for him. Just wasn't as compelling as could've added. Now i wanna see that male octopus be craig you know. See the Battling it out being friends fighting sharks together. Onc- craig like. oh yeah. i'm so sad for her. look at her. She's defense lisp. I want to see the male octopus getting their hit sharp with iraq. That crash or the lobster. The lobster was always running away. That was cool. Yeah that's good great shot which is also crazy like the director in the film crew day also are under water without wetsuits filming. All these things. If they have to breathe they have to go up and breathe so you know. Wet suits wet wetsuits will do recruiting for i at least know the director the director now craig's not the direct user pippa. Erlich ehrlich is the director. And i know she had no what sudan. Because you guys. i don't know why i forgot. Why don't disturb stuff. Yeah i mean like like or scuba tanks makes a lot of sense because not going to get great footage bubbles floating around. Yes yeah people just running away from you to three unders. Yeah watch it if you have some time. I definitely think it's worth a watch. I would is someone. I don't know i'm in the mood for like a documentary. He'd be like oh. Have you seen my octopus teacher. If you're gonna watch berlitz planet earth. I just put on s the good grant. Would we do in next week next week. We're back to the old times when we're going back to our tried and tried and true pick. We roll Well i we decide. We're doing top two fifty bottom one hundred and then we do in our in g to pick one of those movies so right now We decided we're going to do the top two fifty i am. Db's top fifty list. Yes dot com. And i will generate. This is the first time of doing it live. We're going to generate the one through to fifty right now. Can you see one. That's six yes. It is generated one seventy six. So review rights on seventy six is tokyo sewri. Nineteen fifty nine eighteen fifty. See you say this is why we do this. Pat remember this feeling you see you go one thousand nine hundred fifty three foreign foreign movies better. Actually it's black and white to not. This is yeah. Go ahead quite well. Sometimes you turn out to be real gems and then sometimes you're like yeah. I was right. Which one do. I feel like metropol a metropolis. We kind of felt like was not all worth Old slow yet his art piece films. Yeah anyway so made and nineteen fifty three The synopsis is the elderly Sh shuki And his wife. Tami take long journey from the small seaside village to visit this their adult children in tokyo Their elder son cocchi a doctor and their daughter siege. I'm sorry i am between these names. A hairdresser. I don't have much time to spend with their age parents so it falls to norico on my god. I know this so The widow of the son who was killed in the war to keep her in laws company are cinderella certain wall. I think there's like many of them if a similar to need film that i can't remember the name of where we watched it and you saw a remake of it was made like twenty years later the jungle was what you saw. I think i saw the jungle and we saw wages of fear. Wages of fear. Yeah i saw the sorcerer disorder. Yeah not not jungle with daniel radcliffe. Not this one. Maybe the you know Norico or noriko was what made me think i saw this. It was made by ozone. Yes yes this director very famous. I think this is right yes so He made Early spring which was right after this film three years after this film he made early summer which was right before this film. I think tokyo story Fits in between there and it's the same family that they follow and it's a very japan in cinema. Was you know these were films that established them from what i remember and a lot of Female motifs you know throughout the films. But it's very day to life family Dynamics not that much happens from what i remember and there's cool things like camera angles or closer to the ground because japanese culture Smart you sit on the floor around crowned by if you guys. I think i've mentioned mona Mono ra which is a japanese concept. And i learned that from watching a film by ozone i. I'm excited great. Yeah i'm gonna watch it though that you're not i don't know i haven't seen this seen you've seen one of the other ones involving the same family. Oh okay yeah so. It's a new to all right. Well thank you. Mr patrick for joining us. Welcome anytime Yeah thank you And thank you g. qt's for listening We will go. We'll see you guys next week with tokyo story. in nineteen fifty-nine japanese drama film and Excited to succeed you guys. In the meantime please reach out to us you. You wanna be guest. 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How This Veteran Went from Wall Street to Entrepreneur

Veteran On the Move

35:52 min | 6 months ago

How This Veteran Went from Wall Street to Entrepreneur

"Welcome to veteran on the move. If you're a veteran in transition and entrepreneur wanna be poor someone still stuck at gop trying to escape. This podcast is dedicated to your success. At now your host job bring you may not have heard but navyfederal sers all branches of the service for more details into apply visit. Navyfederal dot org marine corps veteran founder and ceo of bill tele capital in local vest. Bill miller taylor. Welcome to the show today. We got some great things to talk about Before we get to talking about business and entrepreneurship takes back which you did. Tell us what you did in. The marine corps may be the naval academy. How far back. You wanna go joe. Thanks so much for having me on the podcast. I i love the name. You know of veterans outta booth and veterans. Know how to do anything. He's just like shoot moving communicate I guess we're doing everything but she may shooting ideas around bhaskar. Mike appreciate it Yeah just going back to. When i entered the military. I listed in the navy right out of high school and then got picked up to the naval academy graduate with the class of ninety two accepted a commission in the marine corps and basic school Made the decision to go signals intelligence deployed with the twenty six new to somalia in nineteen ninety four adults lagoon and then after getting back from a That fun in the sun. My last tour duty is the national security. Agency and then transitioned Out of military from there. yeah. I remember when we first when we we're about ready to come ashore. I was in flight school. I believe When they were getting reassurance somalia. I was watching on the news. It was dark and there were some landing some guys from a landing team that were down there putting in markers on the beach for the for the come ashore when the sun was coming up and there were all these news news reporters down there on the beach like filming them. Doing this talk. It seemed so ironic that you were about to make an actual landing but you know the the current environment was safe enough that there could be reporters cindy i remember watching it on tv as well. Because i think that was the twenty four. Th mu not mistaken probably around. Yeah and remember that. A friend of ours Lieutenant kerr coker. I don't know what is now but Anyway he was one notes interview on the beach with trying to be stealth like and make the landing and also all the camera lights pop on. It was hilarious if roenick anyway so Talk about What your transition is like when you get out of. The navy went back to the civilian so things. Yeah so when. I left the marine corps in ninety seven after completing by Five year commitment after graduating from the naval academy. I thought i had a plan. And and I had interviewed in the bunch of places and And didn't really have any authors. But i said you know i'm going to try my hand at this entrepreneurial thing and went to go work for a friend of the family and i will tell you that My wife refers to or refers to our transition as the flaming So it's like okay. The paychecks twice a month and all these resources you can call up and and really the transition program back in ninety six ninety seven was nothing to speak about. I think the one thing i remember was where a black suit on interviews like. Are we interviewing to be undertaker's so you know that transition assistance has improved in the last twenty plus years but yet that's what it was like it was it was rough. It was filled with Unemployment filled with Spending my my modest savings in trying to find a career and try to get something going and and it was met with a failure to be quite frank so it was yeah. It was a scary couple of scary couple of years after after leaving active duty. It's almost like you have to go through that pain just to disagree orienting yourself in. Sometimes it just takes a while until you get it figured out. Yeah i guess so I mean i agree with you in but from a personal perspective. I'd like to avoid pain wherever possible right because You know you don't you don't need to know practice pain. Life gives you plenty of opportunities to put some knots on your head so But yeah i. I will tell you that. In retrospect it was probably one of the best experiences of my life because that transition just broke me down to like my core values. And and then i started to rebuild myself from there but it took probably two of just Just getting beat on if you will by the world and didn't didn't enjoy don't throw it But a lot of lessons learned it. It was a good place to build a foundation to launch from the last you know twenty one years two years so after the painful transition. Where did you end up landing. Well i bounced a bet right. Because i was trying to figure out. What did i want to be. But i grew up and you now. I'm pushing thirty and looking at entry level positions with big companies. And so you know. After a failed attempt at working for a friend of the family in his financial advisory business and then with a government contractor that was building systems for finra. I was able to network my way into a job on wall street as an equity trader. Where i thought. Gosh this is exactly what i wanna do for the rest of my life. This is awesome in the mecca of capitalism as a traitor and was druce. Really enjoying myself and moving up in the ranks and then Nine eleven and so that was more than a setback. Yeah no kidding So had you always had this entre neural bug going way back or did you gradually Ended up in it. Yeah so i've always. I've always wanted to be an entrepreneur. Going to be a business owner My father had a small appliance and hardware business in my hometown obey. Oh new jersey. His father had a sewing machine repair business. So i i read somewhere. opted Cite the source but and find it for you. But i've read that that having a parent as an entrepreneur has the creates the greatest likelihood that you'll become a a an entrepreneur business owner. And so you know. I wash the windows and the tv's and refrigerators in in my hall his business after school every day and and help them with various things. So i kind of grew up in business. And i wanted to serve my country and i knew that the military's a young person's game. It's not something. I can put off into my forties and fifties and so That being an entrepreneur and business owner was going to have to wait. Until i served. And i gave something before i received something from from this country. Yeah that's awesome so As you were looking to make the jumping out near ship yourself after you transition Get some stable employment. What kind of things. We've seen out there in the landscape in end up getting involved in in local vest shorts so after after nine eleven unemployed again so starting to become a habit and and i got picked up as a consultant securities and exchange commission. I thought that would be like important storm and go back to new york. After in the bear market was over on as it turned out we started to have children and and i decided to hang out a shingle with by first business in january. Two thousand three. So i've started for companies have sold to all in financial services and As it three through that progression of owning at four one k. consulting businesses a wealth management company and military capital. Which is a you know what we call it. Joint venture privately business investing in commercial real estate and and start ups that we we created local really as an internal software project to manage. All of our limited partners are investors. Financial intermediaries are deals and really just to communicate information and so Really local best was just supposed to be a an a an investor portal on steroids. And i didn't like any of the off the shelf things and so in my uber. As i said we should build our own at software. How book that you've never built so it's like It is very difficult so you know. Six years ago we embarked on this project. it worked very well for us internally Not just to communicate information about private investments. Because they're rather opaque right. You know it's not apple. it's not general. Electric microsoft with is plenty of information analyst. That'll tell you everything you want to know about you. Know it's there's limited information about private investments and so We wanted to overcome that for our investors and prospective investors and makes it more transparent and so we built this thing and when we flip the switch to funny thing happened is it. The phone started to ring right and people were getting more among call it. The color commentary. Play-by-play is the stuff you'd expect to hear you know. Here's your statements. News your k. One and here's your valuation etc distributions but then it was more the color commentary about news like we own apartment building. Someplace in a big company moved into town. We sent out that. That news clipping digitally. Of course People would find that to be the most interesting thing and they'd call up. Say that's good for us right now. Go it's not bad for us. Yeah it's good for us. You more advanced for these apartments probably raise rents we did. We made money and so that was That actually turned local best. The technology into a distribution platform which i found out later was one of the hardest things to accomplish. Its in financial services so people would call us and say hey you got any other deals any other investments and in where before you can call somebody a bunch of times and never get him on the book but when you ask you obviously that made for a much easier sale and so that was the beginning of local and we were approached. Many times had some capital at military capital. We had seen capital And the worst thing in the world was turning an entrepreneur down. It killed me. Kill me especially you know. Good entrepreneurs veterans have solid business plans and ideas. And all they need. Is gas in the tank regio zo. All they need is the capital and finite capital. And so i was like well. How do i make my network. My rolodex of hundreds of ood wealthy investors and and other makes that available to these veterans. And 'cause just picking up the phone and they can email introductions was just you know that's a job in itself and so we we kind of had our my co founder. John bracken boosts a really smart guy berkeley mba co founder of e vite dot com and and was on the eighteen Will instant messenger team built back back in the day so really bright ball bright and he looks at me across the table one day about three years ago and says you know how many more billets hello capitals are out there. I was like gee. John i don't know tens of thousands and he goes he goes do. Do they have the same problem i go. I would imagine they do. Any goes will would take a rewrite of the software but we could basically turn this from an investor portal to a marketplace. And you'd be able to make your your network available to these entrepreneurs who wanna come in at list. Their deals lists their their offerings. Said you know what let's do it and that's local best. It's awesome right. That's a great stopping point where you take a quick break. We'll be right back. Navyfederal serves all branches of the service. 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That's v. e. t. i. back with marine corps veteran founder. Ceo of military capital and local vast. Bill miller telo so bill As kind of get some more details from you on the break and so you guys to go go back a little bit when you guys were developing your own software. Basically to distribute information to your current investors and in the process of doing that you discovered as you were feeding your current investors. Really good information on some of the projects and and real estate that they were invested in. They started calling you right and more being being more interesting. You said you know typically in in the world of selling somebody an investment. You're constantly trying to call call them and trying to get them on the phone. It's hard to do. I'll send you figured you saw something. You discovered something kind of by accident that made your phone start ringing and yet yes yeah in the best thing in the world but this is gonna distress swing because this is very very important in. The world of entrepreneurship is sometimes. You think you're going this way and along the way you discover where we're demand for. There's demand for something and you pivot and run with that and that's kind of what happened. In this case you develop a software system to distribute information grown investors. They start calling you people that weren't even in already. Investors with you started calling you back off of this information flow that you developed and then you said your business partner really smart guy says how many other companies like like ours is there and the reason he asked that is We could market this software system to other companies like ours develop an entire platform of investment companies that are investing in real estate. You take even a little bit further. And you say we're going to focus on the underserved communities like veterans minority and women owned business projects. And you guys are in the beginning stages of this. You've you've definitely discovered something in in your your onto something and that's that's what you're doing. Which is really cool now. The the top the top two of the top three things that veterans struggle with when they get out and go entrepeneurship one is access to capital in the number. Two is lack of a network to plug into The your platform really solves to two of those to both of those Struggles it does open up. Access to capital get some exposure which is also helping to plug into the network. That exist of investors are looking for good investments. And you said yourself. The the the thing he hated most was turning down an entrepreneur and the only reason you had to turn down with. You didn't have enough capital to give but if you have a network of other people that are willing to do that now. You're not having to turn to as many entrepreneurs that's right. In fact i feel like i don't have to turn in anybody right. 'cause we we did we had. This is my co founder. John says we had our aws right amazon. Build aws routes own purposes and then all of a sudden said gee you know we could provide the service to other people and so that was the big pivot you discussed from an internal software. Project is something that we wrote the software and made it a many to many relationship and opened this network which grows organically daily. No marketing dollar spent and on the other side veteran entrepreneurs whether they're in real estate they have a fund or they're a startup or you know franchise whatever they're trying to raise capital for any any business that they're trying to raise capital for. Ill can plug in and list and can act with in a with those people which they have a great level of affinity at a serious level of connectedness with because the the buy side if you will. The investor side of this marketplace or platform are largely military veteran accredited investors. Cities are millionaires in multi millionaires. Who are looking to invest in veteran business period. Yeah that's awesome You use the the new apartment building or the condo complex going up near in the local community One of the things you said like a we put in a this is something that your investors already invested in. He said he'd be put it in a new parking lot in for this building. We sent sent a bunch of pictures and videos of us building the parking lot before and after picks and all of a sudden you start. Your phone starts ringing just just for. That's just one example of what your system does Why is it that sending investors pictures of a parking lot phone. I will take my best guest because it certainly wasn't know the plan. I guess you could say you really need to know why you know that it works. Yeah i guess so you listen i think people understand i said earlier that pride in ivan investments are rather opaque lack transparency by their very nature and so and even stock rate is in your brokerage account is is is not really tangible. It's not real if you go ahead. I'm just so distant you know it's like you get to show up at the company and walker and meet people just because you've been stuck with him. That's right yeah you don't get to go in and see the ceo of the company and shake hands with them Nor do you go and get to go and visit the building rested. But you can actually and so. That was the ideas. Like how do we bake investing real and tangible and so we started with this brand concept of of real ready and investments you can visit investments. You can talk to well is. Ceo can't necessarily talk to every investor. But they can communicate information in a way Whether it is to a picture parking lot that's just been restrict or sharing good news about the community about a big company moving in battle benefit that that real estate project or contract being one startup. those are real tangible ways for an investor to start understand that. Hey this is real. And they begin to understand the investment right and then once they understand it and Ben the they can begin to trust it and so the platform is really helps. Helps an entrepreneur or anyone trying to raise capital communicate relevant information at scale and a securities compliant manner and that was are from the very start and you know as you know. Anybody noticed that he got a ton of email. We don't read everything i think. We even joked about the emails you sent to me. Part is podcast. And i read the relevant to me right and i wanted to I wanted to play by the rules that you've set up. And so what we what we've designed or says face tools and patented technology to help in helping issuer an entrepreneur raising capital communicate relevant information. Things get opened up at scale and securities compliant manner. And i think that been connecting them to this growing network of of people with whom they have an affinity with i e other military veteran investors will make all the difference in. And certainly we've seen you know Case after case after case of people raising money this way yeah and so how how. How do you go about vetting Those things are information where people organizations that you that you willing to put on the platform. Yeah so good. Bit of that is proprietary right We don't we're not a thinner edge to broker dealer where software platform. So we're not making recommendations are there are some things that we do upfront terms of bad actor checks and And their security filing stuff has to be in good order. But i think the the key difference between what local best to set up and this is new. I don't think we've talked about this yet. Is mentioned two things around trust. We're really one phone. Call maybe to away from anybody on that platform so as an investor or as an issuer you could You could vet someone pretty easily. The other is that the majority of our deal flow right the majority of our issues that list on the platform actually come from a third segment of the of the local vast platform called investor groups and he's investor groups. Are you know for for veterans that liked to do deals together to hundreds of investors that all went to a school or all went to the air force academy whatever you know so there are these mo- multitude of investor groups that That invest together. And so what we've set up. Is this third piece of the of the platform are investor. Group technology allows this group of people who trust each other to evaluate private investments. And with that. They perform the diligence. And so when they performed the diligence and And then they communicate that using the platform to their other members and then people could make a decision to invest from there. Okay so the question From your perspective. Since you're in this game what is it blatantly. Obvious to you. What there's more of is there more money out there looking to go into something or is there more opportunities out there that are trying to find investors. The this it's going to sound crazy and probably frustrating for for an entrepreneur. Perhaps listening who's having difficult raising money but there is an infinite amount of money out there looking for dips okay. I was hoping you'd say that and my point is from coming from an entrepreneur perspective knowing that usually if you're not getting the investment or the money that you need to have raised the capital that you need then there's really one of two problems you're either not you might you might just have a bad idea But fossils latter really good ideas are just not presented. Well your stuff's not an order. You books are disaster. Whatever stop that happens all the time or h either either you or your or the or the idea. That's not right or you don't have the network to find the money. Yes it's it's those those are the reasons like you either. Just have a bad idea. And nobody's nobody's ever been honest enough with you to tell your baby's ugly and and so instead of the instead of just getting this kind of worthless encouragement of keep going l. Wouldn't because you know that's a very good idea but you know who might have judge right. You know maybe hear that from ten people that say. That's that's not a good idea or that. Your presentation is awful or yards Whatever your way you're presenting it it's bad or your books are not an order. Whatever the reason so it be your just. It's not in investable idea but certainly can be the case the terms could be bad. I've had lots of people you know. They they know enough to be dangerous. They've i don't know watched too many movies or whatever and Read a few books in. They think they're gonna win over on son miche. Listen you're deal. Terms are need to be middle of the fairway their established norms. Just be the where. Don't don't get creative. And i can tell ya million stories about And they don't you try to tell them but it's like talk over while they never come back because they just want to figure out a different way and and and then of course than there are people that have everything most everything in water but they just don't have the network but they just don't know how i said earlier. I don't know if it was during the break was recorded that Capital raising is a profession. Syndication is a profession. So you may know real estate or you may know your business Sorry it's more than just telling the story of your business and and ask for money. It is a profession. There is a process to it and En- that's what we hope to also give to clients of low cost. It's more than just connecting to a network. It's having access to these sas tools these codified methods of of raising capital and and utilize. And if you do that we've seen we've seen a lot of success so Yeah well you know. New fairly new entrepreneurs The either don't know how to run their company in a way that makes it look presentable. outsiders or or or they don't care But we no matter. How new of an entrepreneur you are. You if you're going to run your business right you really need to run it in a way that it does look good tune outside or looking in even if right now you don't think you're ever going to sell or you don't think you're ever going to go try to raise money If you're going to sell your business you need to have the same things in order that you do. If you're ever going to raise money for your business it's the same. You have absolutely good Thrills yes and a lot of people in their business just haphazardly or the way they feel like it would not not ever even consciously thinking about somebody showed up and looked in on my business. Would it look like ten outsider and if you can run it properly from from day one all that stuff's in order In makes it a whole lot easier going back years later and trying to fix everything it really. There's no excuse. Nowadays there's so many choices available right. Joe i've i i'm jealous. And to some extent of all the resources that available to transitioning veterans and military veteran entrepreneurs that whether it's youtube or through master classes or some of these boot camps exist me. These are great programs that you just not any one is going to teach you everything you need to know about being in business mean. There's a lot that comes with experience in and all the scars and bruises that come with the ups and of of of growing Running a business but the other networking groups were. You can just have these peer to peer relationships with technology. We're on zoom right now. There is all sorts of other technologies that exist in platforms that exist out there to gain knowledge to get smarter faster than there's really no. Excuse if you're not immersing yourself ben environment because you need to get smart. You need to get smart best. Yeah and the other thing is if you if you don't wanna be a bookkeeper or you're not an accountant or a tax expert or whatever that's fine you don't you really shouldn't go do that stuff in less interested in it. You just need to make sure there is. There is somebody that's doing it for you You just you just can't let it go by the wayside because you don't spend your time doing that's perfectly the inner true an absolutely true. I'm a big believer in that. You have to know yourself you have to know what your your geniuses bring your what is what are you better than anybody else in the planet. And then you just. And that's y- i visualized that as a as a number of concentric circles rings and so at the center is what you're great at and you should never outsource your your unique ability and then everything else that you're very good or good or average or poor just absolutely lousy at all those things somebody else's genius those and so just find those people and that are trustworthy to perform those functions. And and then you just you grow from there but you know focus on your unique ability. Outsource or hire somebody. Who's great at the things that you're not absolutely bill. Unfortunately getting close univer time How do we find local local. Please please look us up on the web Local dot com. And you can find me up like din of military See me there. Please please reach out love to connect with you every body on linked in and if you go to the local best website please don't hesitate to join as an investor. It's absolutely free. You could create an investor group in have access to a lot of free tools. And of course if you're an issuer or veteran looking to raise money and you want a demo of the local best platform in its tools and what it can do for you and there's a little chat box on the website for local vest. Just enter your name. Somebody will get back to you will. And we'll be speaking sent says awesome also bill. If if you're talking to somebody who's in the military just getting out looking to get in entrepreneurship. What kind of advice comes to mind. common advice comes to mind. I love it at the highest level It's it's the toughest job you'll you'll never really regret it with enough years of hindsight you know it's it's worth getting in somebody's hip pocket and in having sort of an apprenticeship it even if it's for a year or two or three Don't get too comfortable and but learn and there's somebody else i've done it for others people done for me. I've learned from people. And so i would. I would look to do that. I try to get in Another gutter Hip pocket and learn from them for a couple of years. And then you know Go out on your own and build your during awesome label Really appreciate sharing your story. fascinated interesting stuff and looking forward to the future success local visit. I'll definitely check it out myself. So all right thanks joe. This is great. I really appreciate it and the thanks again. You bet right these marine oscar. Mike vetted on the move. Your pathfinder to freedom if you like to show leave us. A review tunes reviews are always greatly appreciated so until next time. This veteran is oscar mike.

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May 22nd, 2021- Graduation Special! Congrats to my Noah!

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May 22nd, 2021- Graduation Special! Congrats to my Noah!

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Usa am ten sixty in arizona and now welcome to the varsity sports show. Good morning ladies and gentlemen loaded with sport show might even be lease. Yo and i we are. We are in some some Familiar digs. i'm i'm joined by a special co host today as well as a couple of other gentlemen back where it all started back on the old stomping grounds in our graduation special. We try to do a graduation special every year. Right around this time. Obviously to coincide with the theme of graduation we are at our old high school. Camelback high school and i am joined none other than one of mild teammates or mice. All good friend of mine. He is a regular contributor to the varsity sports. show the beach in with bill segment. We'll talk more about that. A little later mr mike bill. Mike how you doin really glad to be here vents. Thanks go ahead erin. For beach with beal. Random thoughts from a real orange county. California surfer guy mike beal opinions expressed during the segment in the way represent those katie usa and ten sixty arizona vs for joe. It's host war it's listeners so obviously guys bottle that so so we do this segment and it's got some traction you know i didn't think it would but it's gotten to be pretty popular mike. I mean. it's a surfing report. Because obviously people in arizona wanna know what's going on in southern california weakened and week out so we have our roving reporter on the ground. Mike beal who happens to be joining us here in the gymnasium. Camelback high school but my that segment started off as just kind of like a joke. Figured you call in. You'd spend about a minute or so giving us some kind of a surf report in and the other five minutes of the segment. You'd spend kind of insulting me and it's built. Traction people enjoy the insults. Yeah it's been a lot of fun You know. I've noticed that has become popular as people have asked me for autographs pictures of them huddled around the radio in the car. Yes there's a lot of talk on the all right so anyway so this whole show is going to basically be a beach in would feel report today. We're gonna it's like we're back being twelve years old again trading insults with each other but we are also joined by a couple of special gentlemen here. The brand new head basketball coach at camelback high school glenn ellis and the football coach at camelback high school. Mr brandon mcnutt gentlemen coach. Ellis coach mcnutt. How are you both doing. I'm doing great. you know. I mean anytime. We're here at catholic high school. I mean it's and listen. You guys talk about him. You just brings a passion. So is my my home away from home. That is great coachella. What about you. i'm doing good man. You know just sitting here with mike. I think we just became best friends. You guys did. I don't know. I think you guys are buddies now. But the fact that you know coach coach mcnutt hooked us up with jerseys this morning and t shirts and all kinds of ear. And mike's wife ten is wearing my old jersey from high school. Because she she idolizes me. And it's just been a regular love fest and then our old friend rob mags. Who's sitting often the background over there. I don't know doing something over there and And so anyway. Let's talk a little bit about camelback. Coachella let's start with you so this is a brand new gig for you. You're a west side guy. You're bringing that westside mentality to the east side of town. Tell us about camelback high schools basketball program. Oh right now we're coming in. We're gonna be very young. This upcoming season We have a nice group of young freshmen and sophomores. That are going to be contributing up in this next season. So we're going to be relying on some of our young guys to really step up. Play hard place smart so we're going to have to do a lot of different things to you know compete with these teams out here now. I can tell you in past years and correct me. If i'm wrong past years meaning ten twenty years ago the feeder programs into camelback weren't always that strong. Because i you know. I had come back frequently and and and i was coaching year for a time and did some a announcing year and But that is something. You're really working on. What do you have going on this summer. Oh yeah that's a great question. Yes so as far as you know helping our program in development some talent we have some club basketball opportunities that we've we've brought to camelback we're going to be bringing a middle school basketball league here Every wednesday in june. So we'll have a lot of middle schoolers here on campus playing basketball having fun getting to us you know Teaching them showing them the right way to play basketball. And then also we're going to be having one of the biggest middle school basketball tournaments coming here and camelback on in two thousand twenty two. So so mike. I know that you're a big basketball fan. And coach ellis through your basketball. You were out here trying to dunk the ball in your flip-flop sandals and weren't very successful. But what do you think of what coachella is trying to build here. I think it's great. I wish i was a middle schooler plan. Everyone's day over here. Jim has. Jim has really great and yeah. It sounds excellent. But let's be realistic. You honestly coach ellis. Would you have taken mike on your team. The first cuts you know you might. He might have made to the second cup manage a great personality. All about all right all right. So coach mcnutt. Let's talk a little bit about football now. The biggest difference between last year and this year is out there. What happened out there. Oh man let me tell you something. always puts a smile on my face. They put a lot of money into our fields. So we got a new artificial field. We got the orange in zones. I mean it's just something you got to stop by and see and admire It's a huge time coin. Did they do that. They put in a new track force and their own grading are so as should be helpful for you okay. Things might be work a little bit better. But i always tell it sells itself so you come out why the field i made. I can't keep people off of it. Yeah so it's it. It is amazing because it was a big bond election in the phoenix union. High school district last couple of years and so they've allocated dollars toward refurbishing the fields. You got brand new turf field out their brand new attitude. You're going back to the throwback jerseys for your uniforms. Mike is wearing his old seventy four. Which was which was pretty clean when he played so. It's nice to see again. It's a nice clean jersey form to kind of continue that legacy and you have to remember whoever you put on. That jersey is the kid that never played a make. Sure the disgruntled kid whose parents are always going to show up and ask. Why is the mike it playing. So that is mike bill with the equity personality. The personality all about personnel. So mike is just fit right in here today. so coach. what else you have going on. You've got you've got seven on seven you've got some summer things going on. Talk a little bit about that. We'll know follow coaches leader. Coach else's with his youth programs coming in. You know a shoutout to ours. Phoenix dragons They are a top a class of feeder. I mean from top to bottom from side defied side. I've been utterly impressed with the coaching staff. To how they run their program to everything and There are feeder schools in all year. So okay and actually. Their coaches are coaching on my staff on my freshman sap so it's easy transition and then from there said they do. Our youth are here from tuesdays and thursdays during the summer. Okay same time. I think there appear from five to seven thirty on tuesdays thursdays but the more than welcome new show up as well because we're spartan families in we like to train train everybody. Well one thing that's interesting is. You've got a theme this season every week of the season football season. So you're opening game. You're opening no slouches lot of history there. The trevor brown bruins will be visiting on september third friday night. And that's your that's the grand opening so that'll be your theme. It's grand opening. It'll be a party like atmosphere that night and then throughout the season what are some of the other themes that you have gone so we got the armed forces so we're going to have a theme for every home game for the next one will have an armed forces we're gonna have course breast cancer awareness course. Homecoming is senior night or huge for us tonight. We wanna honor these seniors in their parents for all the hard work they put so We're developing that. It goes up but the first one will be troubled brown. It's our grand opening. Night are breaking out our school. Jerseys even We're getting theme sox. Are we getting the tube socks the strikes so we're going school mike. Do you remember that when we made the playoffs in eighty seven coach. Kelly told us back then because he compared us. There was a big comparison to saint. Mary's and how for the playoffs. They always got pants. The gold pants so coach kelvin fellas. He yelled at us of as a matter of fact right before the game. Guess you go spartans. I can't give you pants. But i can give you sox. Those playoffs knocks. I think i still have bites. Ironically we we opened the playoffs. A good saint. Mary's and they ended up. We gotta thrashing at night but it was competitive for a little bit but Yeah we got talk so anyway. That was nice so coach. We're excited to come back. It's going to be a lot of fun looking forward to it. Mike and i'll come back. Maybe you'll do a little shoutout to do a special theme night of guys that never played night. And so that should be fun coach. Glenn ellis camelback boys basketball. Thank you so much. good luck. This season coach brandon mcnutt camelback spartans football continuing the legacy. Thank you so much central high school class of ninety three ninety three. You're a young pup. We're celebrating the class of eighty nine coaches thanks again for allowing us access to the gym and we look forward to coming back frequently. This earth is heaven. All right okay so folks stick around joining us on the next segment. We are going to be back with the varsity sports show. We'll be joined by canyon view high school principal. Mr philip mellon great guy a sports guy and we're going to talk a little bit about kanye view and how they're year was and everything else and also be joined by surprise guest from the canyon view. Coaching staff will be joining us as well a coach. 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Every time how easy thirteen raising over fifty thousand dollars in just an hour it starts with one call to adrenaline six zero two nine nine nine nine one eight four five four adrenaline fundraising dot com. Welcome to the jaguar nation. The varsity sports show is proud to partner up with canyon view high school in the west valley to be the voice of jaguar. Athletics junin on saturdays. To hear the jaguar nation featuring coaches students and staff between nine and ten am on am ten sixty katie and subscribe to the varsity sport show youtube channel to get free exclusive coverage of canyon views events. Welcome to the jaguar nation. Jackie interact with bomb. Kim's poll question on td us ten sixty dot com katy us ten dot com. and while. you're there. Check out bob cans bottom line at k. D. us sixty dot com back in eighty two. I used to be able to throw pigskin quarter-mile coach we're putting in fourth quarter. We'd have been state champions lebrun rico for bullied. I might forget. Oh man so good stuff and that fight song. That was the kenyan few fight song before we go to canyon view principal. Philip nalon wanted to bring on a special guest mike. This is an episode of this. Is your life. We're there is another. Mike beal out there and fortunately it's not you. You're one but there's another one. Mike beal senior. Mr mike beal mr bill. How are you sir. i'm fine thank you read. This is your dad mike. I so far. So good i'm I'm impressed that he a knows how to use a cellular phone but be that he remembered to put his hearing aids oriented tasks. Where accomplish this warning. With some difficulty miss mr beale so this is our graduation special. Do you remember where you were thirty two years ago. Right around this time where you hear where you at graduation or were you traveling Enjoy life Because you realize that it wasn't really much of a milestone for your son at the time with great relief that i recall it done. I wanted to make sure that the deadly as a student okay. Since i graduated the top ninety five percent of my high school class. Yeah i mean. I get this all the time you know when you and i speak off line. I mean you're always telling me how i'm the sun you wish you'd had and all of that. I mean honestly. How do you feel about your son. Miche he he does have your name after all love him despite himself. But i always thought that you're a very fine boy in boy. I am glad to say that both you and my son. Mike are still boys. Only a lot of that old toilet humor for back then so Wow i'm impressed. This is this is nice. Your dad is You know he's calling us and throwing complements our way this great longtime listener first-time caller number one in our heart. S mr bill. Thank you so much for calling us. We look forward to you joining frequently. You gotta call us back. Look forward to advance anytime all right. Okay mr mike veal senior. So that that was great. That was a nice surprise. So you have your dad calling. I mean gosh glad that he's able to do that full of compliments today. He was as well. So it's nice to see things don't change there but he's a he's a good guy anyway all right. Let's let's let's say onto talking to mr philip nel from canyon view high school out in the west valley mr now. And how are you sir. I'm good how are you guys doing. We're doing great so mr so this. Is this whole graduation process. You realize i mean mike and i were class of eighty nine and we still reminisce about the old days in the things that you are doing now to impart on. These kids are going to be talked about forty years from now. Do you know how much of an impact you're making on those young lives. Monroe are absolutely. I mean it. It's something that. I don't take for granted When we started school three years ago we we started with the end in mind. So it's how do we get them to graduation. How do we get them to the next level in their life And and and you know these are forever. Things right that trying to do they. We're trying to establish so I'm truly truly excited to have our first senior class coming up and Yeah it's a big deal. We got a meeting. We're gonna talk about all things senior year this summer and make sure they have the the best memories that they can have. And let's talk about the fact you touched on something very important. Your school is only three years old and you are you. Are you got to be the only high school in the state of arizona and one of the only ones in the country right now. That is that does not have a graduation because you don't have any seniors on your campus. In spite of that you guys have have already bagged your first state. Championship doubles a women's tennis. You had a tennis team finished. That one st a couple young ladies. That was very exciting. You had softball and baseball finished very strong in the postseason softball in particular in in in in five eight where the state finalists in their essentially. What was their first year of our city competition with no seniors. And you've got a jam packed campus. You're not a flash in the bucket there. It's not like you've got five hundred students walking around you've got what eighteen seventeen eighteen hundred students on your campus. Now we've got fourteen hundred and fifty right now. Next year will be eighteen fifty So right now. Technically where the smallest five as school but You know we started. We came into this I think we all expected to compete. Early i hired coaches with that mindset. Hire teachers with that mindset with his athletically academically. Not a lot of people expected us to be where we're at right now but I it's just been amazing. An amazing ride We have to state Finalist to two runner up trophies. And and we're not satisfied But but we're proud of the work that we've done we're proud. I'm proud of my coaches are proud of our student. Athletes are parents. We had seventy eighty kids that they championship game five as softball and we just had a sea of canyon view blue in there and it just it felt a little bit. Like normal but yeah. We're we're excited about what we've been able to do what we're going to continue to do. I think almost. I think eleven out of thirteen programs. Bay the postseason this year All the way through. So it's it's. It's really been great in all seriousness i get. It's milan but my friend. Mike here is works as an academic adviser at a college in southern california and mike. This has to be refreshing for you here. You know a principal and administrator. That is so often so supportive. What what makes your job. Easy mike when it comes to this well you know. Let students bring a lot of enthusiasm from transitioning from high school to college. It's kind of a major league but a lot of times the instructors or teachers and administrators highschool of prepared the students. Well for what's a what's about to happen. Yeah and you don't find that in every district out there you just find guys that just want to go to work every day. And they don't put in the time or the effort. But but you know a guy like mr nolan and his team. You know ms andrea hudson. The athletic director. All of the coaches one of which is going to be joining us or waiting on. Hold here we'll bring him on in just a moment but Mr naylor when you assembled your staff how. How did you get so lucky and bringing all these folks together. Well honestly You know we started started early I've had a lot of relationships. I've been in our district for eighteen years. Nineteen years I was a coach a high school coach college coach. So i had roddick this thing. Relationships With coaches with people. That i knew already so really when we started to add. Okay we've got to build this staff. I tried to look at teachers that i knew. Excellent teachers already. That had good relationships with and and say hey come on and be a part of what we're trying to do here and then it was really selling. I really selling a vision of you know. Think about the high school and about what you want. Think about What's the very best that you can have and do. You wanna be a part of trying to put to create that it's so A number of coaches and teachers. That i already knew and then there were people that knew me and we're like hey i got somebody over here. Like desk. rondor grows basketball coach. A buddy of mine. He's like hey. I got this diner. Dynamite coach that's that's looking for a place like what you're trying to do. We met and the running. Joke is you know i i we go have lunch somewhere and wherever we have lunch ad. That's where we sit down and we talk about what it's going to be john jacobs softball coats and lunch with him at the same place and we sat there and talk and You know i saw talked about what my vision and expectations were. And if it matched up i said come on board. So i we're looking. I was looking for varsity coaches from first year. So they can build the program from the ground up. So what a coincidence. We just happened to have softball coach. John jacobs on the line with us. Coach jacobs are you there. Ill coach jacobs He might be muted coach. Jacobs good morning sir. You hear me. Can you hear me. Yes you okay. So coach jacobs. This is a very important question. I ask you now so that the the day that you met mr alan for lunch to question number one. What you order and number two. Did he pay you. Know what i ordered like. He took me some food salad place. And i gotta think i was going to be. Buffalo wing got like salmon salad. And actually i go there all the time to get the salad. Oh okay so you started a health trend there mr nell and not only are you. Are you bring in you know in in in attracting a top educators in coach like you're starting trends so but the second question did he pay you know what. That's a good question. I don't know but somehow in fact is i'm pretty sure did for sounds all right. Well coached jacobs. Congratulations on the season. That you had this year. A shoutout to canyon jaguar softball team Mister allen thank you can you view high school principal in the west valley. We look forward to continuing our partnership with with your campus and your find students and staff and administration. Great people all the way around grade school coach. Jacobs congrats again and we look forward to to revisiting with you frequently. I appreciate it man. And i wanna i wanna say that i've got the best administration in the game They they treat us like adults. They take our vision their vision and our schools incredible. I mean you drive up to that school and you want to be there every day. And that's that's infection is our campus and it all starts from the top all right mr nelson. Thank you again for joining us. We'll see you soon. yeah. I appreciate it. Appreciate appreciate the partnership and all its you guys do. And i definitely. Let's stay together and ride this way. You know go ride the wave here. We go go. jags okay. canyon view high school. Well represented this morning on the varsity sports show principal philip and softball coach. Jacobs folks when we come back. Mike and i are going to head over to Soros cat land will be joined by sorel highschool sabre cats principal and oxidizer and and a basketball coach. An old friend of ours of the program coach lucas ramirez. So join us stick. Stick it out here folks We're just about halfway through the show. We'll be back after the break here on the varsity sports. You'll might do. You have anything else. You wanna say i insulted you that whole for segment. You've been kind of quiet. I'm very upset. Okay i've been trying to get you involved in the show for god's sakes Feel like i said you know vinnie. I'm sorry so hopefully we come back. We can rebuild our relationship maybe okay. It was funnier dad called. I love all right folks. Stick around we'll be back after the break here on the varsity sports. Yo go varsity every monday night. Checkout re adams is he host the monday night. Govan lifestyle show from six to seven. Pm here on katie. Us am ten sixty. I this is dick stockton. Join vincent on the varsity sports show as we kick off to suffer spotlight series on saturday. Twenty nine we'll do a countdown of top broadcasting moments throughout my fifty five year career in sports here on. Am six hundred katie us arizona from nine hundred ten thousands of athletic teams depend on adrenaline fundraising to help reach their financial. 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Then click that subscribe button to stay up to date the swirl sabre cats are here the varsity sports show and the national youth football and cheer association probably present in why. Fcat every saturday morning at ten the varsity sport shows been still ezio and in ymca commissioner jason hirsh bring you the best of arizona youth football including previews in highlights that attend thirty. Catch the football game of the week with arizona's top players up to age. Fourteen joined vince. Jason in france every saturday morning from mavericks scottsdale on an ymca tv checkout katie. Usa am ten sixty on one hundred point seven selects hd two that's right hd radio on one hundred point seven channel number two. Welcome back to the spike here sabre catfights. That's a great song which leads us to our next segment. Here we are joined by swirl high school and another great partner in outstanding order of the varsity sport show so our high school swirl high school principal mrs an singer mrs. Hey how are you. I'm great good morning. How are you and mike good morning. Thank halsey she acknowledged you. Mike thank you. Don't this relationship off. that's it's a little broke it. It's been broken for about thirty five year impossible. Eighty cats do anything we got all. That's nice okay. So mrs so what. I wanted to talk about and the theme being. You know the graduation celebration here on the varsity or show this week. We wanted to talk about about all the great things that happened out. Its world this year. And and obviously you've got you've got some some great things going on outside of the classroom. Let's talk about some of the programs that you have going on at suara. What what what are some things that you can share regarding your your academics Academics we are at were. We're known for the forays academics. Athletics arts in our assets. We're home to the math and science academy So that's something that is outstanding. Yeah in math. Wasn't one of my strong suits. Mike and high school how. 'bout you just the opposite. Yeah okay so and and so you. You've you've had some some scholars that have come through there and And and some great things among your admin team talk a little bit about your admin team we have the best adleman themes you know the one thing that that we focused on it tomorrow. Is you have to love kids And all four of us. That's what we're here for and that's what we're all about. Is we just love kids. We love working with young adult There's nothing more gratifying than having those conversations with our us but just phenomenal admin team and it's all because they truly are in it for the right reason and all of our decisions are based on what's best for kids and and most of of your team a lot of your team including yourself you kinda came up through the district you served it on other campuses in various capacities. How long have you been. It's war now. It's been a few years now. Yeah this is my seventh year at the world and my eleven year in the learning community. I was In an administrator also local feeder middle school and so a lot of these kids like the kids but he graduated last year. I've known them since. They're in sixth grade so great. Yeah the extra special for you and in doing that. Have you seen It has been a very consistent Seen throughout your tenure there have have there been some changes because obviously with with the the growth of of all the charters out there and the other schools in the realignments this and that has been fairly status quo throughout your tenure there. Have you noticed some some changes for the better that the scottsdale district has adapted to throughout the years. We actually tomorrow is in a huge growth rate now. And so when a lot of are experiencing Lower enrollment right. Now we are actually Bossy not the same. So our enrollment right now is actually High the highest that it has been So we we're we're racking enrolling. We say we're on a two point. Oh right now. We'll but not only that what's impressive about zorro. As you mentioned you're at the highest you've ever been. We're not talking thirty six hundred students. I don't even think you guys are fifteen hundred are you. We're Almost fifteen hundred right now. So we we should start the year fifteen hundred. i'm usually about twelve forty For us yeah. We're it's just been amazing and we've seen some great As as we've had our partnership with you you know we brought on Coach ramirez Who absolutely is all about growing our young men You know we have. Joe mickey jason mon. You know we have people of character that when you have people that can build it. People will come you know. And and that's exactly what they've done. Is people come to our ob because of our the adults better there because they just love love our our youth. So we're we're just. It's the nicest community i've ever been in And that's really because of the parents trust With their kids and then the students are the most respectful people. I've ever been around just. I love our student body. Well that's what's been very impressive to me is how the coaches all worked together. And we'll we'll bring on coach ramirez here in a minute but But the fact that these guys all kind of dip from the same pool of kits. You've got kids playing multiple sports and at a place like that gets kind of attention. That's laura does Especially having such a small Community of students a working together that that in itself is very impressive to. I mean mike back in the day. Do you remember coaches that that that you know share athletes when we were in high school Not so much. I mean everybody was pretty encouraging but i think coaches more focused on maybe once particular sport. I know for us coach. Kellyn just did was football. Football football twenty four seven really concerned. Okay i guess a little bit but you know but but it was. Yeah so it was a it was a a. It's good to see the and with that. And when don't hang up because i do want to bring on a coach premieres as well. We're joined by an old friend of ours so oral sabre cats basketball coach and he's also a pretty popular figure on the show. People are always asking about him and his hair coach. Luis ramirez coach. What's there oh all right all right. What's the story with the hair now. We haven't cut it lately. What's going on. I would it still flow and going strong into summer. I know they really enjoys it. yeah she always let me know that i'm haircut and i do but Yeah my friend. I'm sitting here with mike. You haven't met coach ramirez. But lucas ramirez. He is oftentimes compared to a young michael jackson. Or even. A lionel richie. I've actually compared the way you're describing him. I just want to run my fingers through a all right all right. Okay so coach your mirrors. So let's talk about how how you work with your your administration there. We're gonna put you on the spot. Obviously because you're you're a new you know a new coach there or this this first year but working with administration's working with as well as working with some of the other coaches what's the experience been like. Truthfully you could tell us no it. Nothing but great things okay. I mean i've always believed that when my time came to be fortunate enough to be a leader of a program in the community. You want everyone to be on the same page and you want everybody to have the same vision in whether it's miss as the rest of our admin team the other coaches on our campus even the teachers on our campus. I mean we all want the same things for our community. And that's just for it to be a welcoming successful Positive environment and you know. We're all the same age. Which makes it great. And what's it like how. I know that you've had guys that are playing multiple sports you got. You had a few out there this year. that that we're playing for you. I mean what's the stress bid on like on those guys and for you coaches to have to coordinate schedules to say okay. This guy has got to be at. You know he coach. Mons i gotta take this kid theresa monday to be. You know he's gonna play with us but then he'll go out and practice with you guys tomorrow. I mean what what is happening like. It's been great. I mean again. It's all about communication and just making sure that we're all again on the same page Different periods of the year are going to be more important. You know to particular sport you know the fall. I don't wanna see any of those kids. I wanna see him on the football field. I don't expect to see them. You know at at any of our workouts Obviously the winter basketball season. They're still gonna let them do all things that they need to do for the fourth. But you know basketball's the focus and the spring and summer kind of that that balancing act but again it just comes down to communication and having relationships with the players the their families and then you know also important to this relationships with the other coaches on our campus. So ms is is is is a big sports fan. I remember at the basketball game. She'd be standing in the corner watching their which he give you any kind of advice before the games are coming in at halftime and talk to your team or anything like that to try to pump them up. I remember from the beginning. Her stressing the importance of of Winning just you'd better way the way we do things that soro. And i'm that standard and that expectation it all goes back to just being competitive and and having a chance to win you know and and I mean you're totally right. And you say is is one of the most competitive people. I've been around. No whether you see her at our games or even you know sharing the sideline with her football games. I mean it's very evident in the passion and that she has for not just competing and winning. But you know the warren in our entire community well so before we go. I have one final question. Now miss your athletic director matthew harrison. I have a handshake agreement. That i can have for this fall. Since we're going to be covering the football team in extending continuing our partnership with you. I get my own parking space like jason and i also get my own kind of insurance locker room area. Kinda like he does is that true can i. Can i get the same amenities that coach. Mons has if that's what. Mr harris said absolutely. Yeah all right there. We go all right. Go ahead coach. what's that i said. I'm still waiting for my parking spot. I can say all right all right so anyway the yes so our high school and thank you so much principal and say thank you for joining us a basketball coach sabre cats basketball coach. Lucas ramirez. Thanks for joining us here on the varsity sport. Show guys. we look forward to continuing on covering you guys. A lot of fun. Congratulations on classic. Twenty twenty one. We'll see you both very soon. Bank then thank thank you and so all right guys when we return we will be back. It's it's insincere. Might you know she's thinking the same thing everyone else sticky. We'll be back. He's joe we'll be joined by campo verde principal christy cox and an old friend of mine here on the varsity sport. Show joining vincent mike. We'll be right back. Don't go anywhere you'll varsity. Hd radio is here for katie. Am ten sixty check out your favorite shows and games on one hundred point seven ks selects hd. Two training better athletes was founded by renowned. 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Td whizzy and sixty into your whole with high on alexa katie. Us am ten sixty skill and evil. Visit myself. This is where i start my day. A mom means today's tom. Volume means me cry. Welcome back on my kind of an eighty steam near so tom sawyer you were a big rush fan back. Yeah i love. That was the first thing you've done on the show today because it's at the end of the show here. So thank you for that compliment will. We'll see what we go back to contract negotiations on the beach beal segment past but anyway folks that so that fight song that you hear that is from campo verde high school out in gilbert and with us online is a good friend of our program. Good friend of mine. Personally dr. Chris cox dr cox. How are you today. how are you guys It's okay is it. Okay that i said that you and i are friends. I think we're to that level. Okay all right here we were. We were acquaintances for a long time. I'd say from a distance but yeah okay. We're friends dr cox. You should see the relief on vinci's face do you have so seriously. Let's digress for a moment here dr cox. Do you have that one friend from high school that just of is just still out there just kind of hanging on that you feel an obligation to to to carry with you every so often you know and make him feel like do i have a couple of those okay all right well yes sitting next door and then you can sympathize with all right so dr cox so our theme being graduation first of all congratulations on another year. It was a tenuous year for everyone. But you made it and talk a little bit about this year's graduating class out at Camp overt. I don't even know that. I have two words to describe this class Truly graduating class in my experience is hands down the most nominal class. i've ever come across There's something special and know it's gonna be hard to ever really come across the class like them again and it's been all area they're just great human their over achievers. They're great athlete They we have more than i've ever seen have above a four point plano like it's just insane. What this group of senior had done and when you think of everything that's gone on it even more impressive That they've been able to pull it off in addition to a pandemic and everything else well and what's been especially impressive is the fact that that you were named as an as an a plus performing school what all goes in into that way. It is probably a years worth of work and prepping You write an application. That's pretty similar to dissertation You have to have all stakeholders involved and you have to then invite a group of judges from around the state dot com and basically have to prove that you're hundred page document is what you're saying. You're doing that your campus and from culture to academic sports to inclusion Everything that really makes up a comprehensive high school so the writing is one thing in itself because you have to have a good team and kind of have a common narrative throughout And then the day that they show up. It's pretty intimidating And really are a bus. I think i'm more proud of our campo family for earning it. Then i mean. It's the first time i bet part of meeting that and actually earn it. I'm proud no matter what but we had gotten hold that we were receiving visit and then cove it hit so we didn't get to visit until the start of the school year. And had you do it like our first week of hybrid and so it was our first time having been back in literally months and so i'm like are they even gonna see like no. I didn't have much faith. But are we don't overflow students and they just read the judges through it and the is literally they deep with you again. And i'm not just saying that they had not one critique It was the judge judges out there and ask for like ideas that they could take back to their schools into their communities and so it was almost like it was just very humbling. Because that's what we know all the time but we didn't know if during a pandemic and hybrid and everything going on if if they would see the greatness that we know is there so wow it's well it would is also impressive. Is the fact that you know going through a pandemic and in in your teachers are not just teachers. But they are in a sense counselors advisors even though you've got an outstanding team of counsellors and advisers on campus Let's talk a little bit about some of your admin team. And i know one of my friends that serves on the admin team this year. Thank you by the way for giving him a job. I don't know what he was gonna do at your without without the opportunity because he really was heading down down down a deep dark black hole and with his life and everything else. So we'll get to him in a minute. But but you're admiral about your admiralty. Yeah you know. Campo is such a great place because of all the people and i've worked in a few other schools but i've never touched anything near what campo is and that's from the students to the parents the teachers and it really adventist part of that so right now we have A lady mrs rarest and she's been in education for something like twenty five years and academic. ap and she knows her stuff through and through She's had re students that attend campo who have graduated so she's very best in the community And she just raises the rigor. And then we have dr shawn tonight. S and he knows. I joke in calm. The fun guy gets to oversee all the activities and graduation itself which seemed like the fun things to the community but really it's probably the most stressful behind the scenes And he's will give you the shirt off his back and works tirelessly and then. Our newest adleman is mr ragsdale athletic director. And i had to beg and we'd and borderline get on my knee to convince him. oh coaching. how'd you get him to wear a tie every day. You give me so much. Good bulletin board material for twitter. It's like it's like the time with chris farley. I mean it's the greatest thing. I the fat guy a little coat so leave me alone all your stories on you buddy dr. Yeah go ahead. Sorry go ahead i was gonna say. I'm sure you know our history. Max and i were together back at. Asu some twenty five years ago and we've we've been close near you know best friends ever since. And he's know he's he's a great human. Being is a great person is. He's an anomaly because of just how nice he is that you can't help but make fun of him some types. It's just fudd so ironically my husband. I didn't know this until i got campo and we have made the connection but my zone rag first grade grown up together. Yeah and so. When i realized i was heading over to campo like. Oh that's where rats is that. And i think my husband's very jealous of my daily Work schedule of getting the hang out. I think he ragged. I just like are having fun. Well but You know it didn't take much to get him to where the tie but i'll be honest. I feel catch my smile when i see him. And for any other reason than yours your team and coach gear. Yes but he didn't do enough nice. I have to give them so max. So as an administrator dr cox what is what is What she liked to work for well. You know i've had many candidate discussion about you. Know the differences between how certain people are looked working Look in the workforce and she's awesome and she's a tyrant worker and I could learn underneath or leadership is awesome and once again to Be persuaded to get out of the coaching profession. After twenty. three years of doing it Is kinda kinda crazy. But she did it. And i'm thankful for it and You know this past year. It's been crazier to jump into it. Everybody's kinda you know saying you know. This is a crazy year. How it's going and because of her leadership we were able to get through it and that's not blowing smoke. That's just truisms and She she's an awesome year. Well we also have an announcement because apparently you're you're fearless leader just got a new job. Yuck not did did They couldn't pick a better person for that job and camp verde who was solely miss her but she's left such a great nation that we will trudge on without her but the leadership will definitely be different but They couldn't have picked a better person for our district. Congratulations dr kaku. You're moving into district headquarters as director of curriculum and instruction. And and i wanted to thank you both for coming on today. Dr christopher cox campbell verdy high school principal move into district office and of course mild friend Former head football coach in current athletic director campbell. Max ragsdale thank you both again for coming on with us. Thank you events mike. Thanks mike have a great weekend in mike. Don't take any crap from right. It's over guy sakes that you're you're you're giving readily know at the time syrian insults. My thank you. Kristen max all right guys. So that's another. Show guys it might. It was a lot of fun. I back in our old didsbury. Camp vincent honestly. I'm a little surprised that you had max on. Because since you're you're coaching days back at asu he's really made something on your failures anyway. So speaking which my son. Noah graduated the other night from from cactus shadows high school. Congratulations noah i love. You son. He didn't want to call today. I don't know why you know. Oh real quick. I would like to wish a happy birthday. My friend rob black of his mom. Doris okay. Happy birthday thanks for joining us folks here on varsity sports show. It's been another week. Thanks to our show. Partners are new partner fixed body group all of our friends our guest today too many to name. We're running out of time guys next. You're on the varsity sports show same varsity time. Same varsity channel. Go varsity this is dick stockton. 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0203 | The Power of Suffering: Growing Through Lifes Crises

Building Psychological Strength

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0203 | The Power of Suffering: Growing Through Lifes Crises

"So traumatic memories have a strong emotion attached to it and what becomes clear is that we never fully process them. Because they've activated you know part of our brain and our buddy. I like to give up ryan as an embodied. Brian runs through a whole body is epa time it couldn't fully handle all processes so it just put it in the storage shed at the back. What happened with me. And what happens with with other people that cut three series. All of traumatic events is that they become stored up to a point where those memories still very much alive or operating in a way that makes it difficult to function. normally. That was david rowland. And you're listening to episode two zero three of the building psychological strength podcasts where we uncover the information tools and techniques to turn our mind into our most valuable asset the courage to face fears with persistence. Being able to be present enough in this moment to choose my response thoughtfully we have the strength to bend to life stressors to bend to adversity without snapping without breaking there are only six things that contribute to our quality of life and they are all experiences every moment we are deciding who we want to be and how we wanna live our lives noticing what your brain is dealing and then being able to make choices mobilize the things that we know. Lift us up everybody. Welcome back to the building psychological strength. Podcast my name is april and your host. I am over the moon beyond excited about this week's episode but before we dive into the gentleman that we're gonna be talking to this week. I wanna let you know about a new free resource that we've got going at peak. Mind as you know at peak mind. 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Some free In the moment Things that you can do to help yourself feel a bit better one last time that you are l. is peak mine. Psychology dot com backslash quiz. Okay and with all that said. I'm so thrilled to get into this week's episode. It's a fact of life that we are all going to experience adversity trauma difficulty suffering at some point in time in our lives. I've talked a lot about my own experience in losing my dad at such a young age getting diagnosed with multiple sclerosis and all the uncertainty that went around with that and the experiences i had after having my daughter and going through postpartum depression anxiety and ultimately ptsd all of those experiences were incredibly difficult traumatic and Hard to move through. But i can say with utmost certainty that i am a better person today having them no i would not choose to go through them again. No i would not choose to have that happen to anybody else but if it had to happen. I'm grateful for the lessons and the growth. That i've had as a result of it. And that's what we're going to be talking about this week. We're gonna be talking about those times when life is incredibly difficult when we are handed adversity. That feels too big for us. It's overwhelming and it can be so difficult to know how to move through it. But research shows us that it is possible to grow as a result of adversity. That it's possible for us to thrive through adversity and as a result of adversity. And that's what we're gonna be diving into this week with our guest david rowland. David is a presenter. He's a writer and he's a psychologist. He is a phd in clinical psychology and for a lot of his career. He worked as a clinical and forensic psychologist in australia. He had a huge budding amazing successful career. An incredible marriage. He had the perfect house. I mean seemingly the perfect life when he started to experience depression and ptsd himself and ultimately he had a stroke that experience. Not it probably doesn't need to be said was incredibly difficult for david to go through but what it showed him was how possible. It is to grow as a result of going through something adverse as what he went through and in this part of his career this more recent part of his career. He's devoting his time and his research to exactly that helping us grow and thrive through adversity. specifically david's latest book is called the power of suffering growing through life crises. It draws together real life stories of eleven incredible people who survived their crises in grew in completely transformative waves ways david actually shares a couple of these stories on the podcast today as an example of some of the difficulty we can go through and the fact that it is possible for us to learn and grow as a result of it. Not only that. But david talks about his personal experience after he had his stroke he also talks about what trauma is and why like what it does to us when we go through trauma why it can be so difficult to move forward afterward and then he gives some incredible tips as about as to what to do when we ourselves experience these traumatic and difficult events. Not only that but right at the end of the episode. David gives some incredibly helpful and valuable tips for what to do when someone close to us is experiencing something very difficult when they are suffering. You've probably had the feelings of awkwardness when someone loses a family member. And they're grieving or they've gone through something incredibly traumatic. You don't know what to say you don't know the right thing to do. And david breaks down and gives some incredible insight into what you can do to be a support person for people who are going through their own suffering and own adversity. He's actually one of the very few podcast guests in history of the podcast. That has totally caught me by surprise. Drummed up something from my own past. That i was sitting over here with the mute button on while he was talking trying to compose myself which ultimately it didn't work so you'll get to hear that at the end of this episode as well but leaving it in because i think it is an important lesson in the fact that all of us are going to go through something difficult and knowing. That is a connective point between all of us. All of us. Humans who are in these lives trying to do the best we can. I'm so thrilled about this conversation. I can't wait for you to meet david. Rowland and to hear what he has to say about how we can grow through adversity and tragedy and help others do the same. Let's roll that interview. David i am so excited to have you here for this episode of the podcast. Because we're gonna be diving into a pick that frankly everyone needs to have a background in and have some tools in their tool kit around. Because it's something that unfortunately but realistically we're all going to have to go through at different points in our lives so thank you so much for taking the time to be with us today. Thank you for having me on the show i pro. It's it is a strange topic to be talking about. But i think we all recognize that it's part of life. Unfortunately yeah so today. We're going to be talking about For the audience. Some of those really truly difficult times of life those times when i mean it requires every ounce of coping skills and resilience that we possibly have some of the most difficult times of life health crises death of people that we love other adversity in life. That you know we don't love focusing on those aspects of life with which unfortunately because we don't focus on them very much it leaves people in a position where they don't have the skills they need or as many skills as they could use when they do inevitably hit a time of real adversity. So having someone like you on the show who has not only academic expertise in this area but also personal experience in this area is really a value. I would love to start there actually. you've written a number of books but one of your books in particular really dive into your personal experience The book is called. How i rescued my brain. A psychologist remarkable recovery from stroke and trauma. Wow you are not the type of person who's gonna be pontificating about something that they've never experienced. Can you take us through that journey a little bit. Tell us a bit about the personal experience that you've had a really set up the the arc that we're going to be on in this episode. Yes oh i'd love to. And i think it's i think it's important because i really am speaking from life experience. You know as another human being. I people or any of this efficiently expertise I guess if i paint a picture you know is living in a very beautiful pod of australia near because my wife and i moved from the big city to to this regional area. We'd had our first child who was to. We had two more so he had three daughters. That will all in junior school. The oldest getting ready to go into high school. I had a private practice. It was thriving. People came from long distances. To say me because of my specialities those working is a clinical end forensic psychologist so. I had a strong reputation. I'd set up a A clinic with psychiatrists in another psychologist. And what am we. Were living in a dream home and financially. We were very well off. So we have the perfect life But then something happened and it was no longer perfect and the first thing that happened was that i've been working for more than twenty years by the stage in mice psychologists korea and i not wanting to go to work because and i couldn't tell why that was just that i just didn't have that own to get out of bed and do this work that i'd always love to do and i was also experiencing nightmares imagining my daughter's going through horrible situations and at family being trapping opel situations and sometimes been killed and and because i work with trauma for a long time it was one of my specialities. I thought maybe. I am traumatized by all the work that i've done. I work in the prison system as well so it seems some awful things being a few times when my life had felt threatened during my work so i was putting together an. I spoke to a senior ecologists in my area. Who i knew work with. Cnn victory and trauma he'd done in that area and i told him what was happening. He said i think you've got post traumatic stress disorder and you're also praised so that made a lot of sense. I thought well. I'll take a tight time out of my private practice. I'll get well. I'll go back to work. And this was prior to the global financial crisis in two thousand eight. And because i took time off work and then the global financial crisis hit We will leaving off savings alive savings and then when it came to sell air investments. Because i couldn't go back to work as quickly as i'd hoped Getting depressed prices so that the show it ease. We completely ran out of money. We were unease financially and had to go to a family to support us. And then i had a stroke and the stroke really had no nine medical. 'cause we know he did all a test afterwards but the stroke came out of the blue and it was probably stressing. Jus you know it can be that when you various gedo very strict you can have a spike in blood pressure in any little clocks in your Arteries could go to the to the vertebral arteries in your brain and that seems to be the most likely thing is i generally was physically well healthy and it wasn't doing the wrong things that would indicate going to heaven urological event on that and the other thing that happened subsequent to that was that i was misdiagnosed. So as rush my wife fresh meat to the local general hospital because she said i didn't have the droopy face a loss of my ability but i was wondering around the house early in the morning dress to go to work but i hadn't worked for two years by the stage and she said i was speaking in a dreamy voice and i'd ask what are supposed to be doing. She would tell me. She said he's supposed to be taking the children to school cam. The since the holidays and then five minutes later at asked the same question and speaking in a dreamy voice in coal to touch. So i've cinci took me to the general hospital and i couldn't work out. What was wrong with me. But because i had this history now post traumatic stress disorder. I had this extreme knees. Your i couldn't remember what had happened five minutes before they thought. Maybe it's a psychiatric induced enezi. So they sent me to a psychiatric clini. which i. i waited as voluntary patient. But i handed. They are just didn't feel like this is where i should be. But i thought i'd had a complete nervous breakdown. I completely lost my mind. And that was the most frightening thing. I've ever experienced this idea that loss mark control of myself that this mind that have been so superbly working for me before now was just a mess and fortunately one of the psychiatrists they said. I'm not completely Convinces diagnosis he sent me for. Mri test of the brain which happened three weeks after my initial hospital. Admission and that confirmed. I'd had a stroke so it was completely organic. It wasn't psychological at all and the book. That i ride. How risky my brain is really described. Said a but it really is how i got my social that through. You know more or less as well functioning is. I am today so i have done. Have a lot of symptoms. Now from my stroke. The main one would be mental fatigue. So i can't concentrate for as long periods as i used to and my memory wouldn't be shop as would eight without that stroke but physically. I'm actually much better shy emotionally. I mean much better shape and really the things that happened. After i go will became the subject of my most recent book which on show. We're going to dive into absolutely. There's something that i want to highlight. That is potentially a missing a piece. That i don't want this audience to miss about your story that you've shared with us. You mentioned in the beginning that everything was going well right. You had all of these things going for you and out of the blue seemingly came these really difficult events that you had to endure and i bring that up because so many times it can be easy to delude ourselves into thinking that suffering or adversity is distant from us. It's something that happened to them. I noticed this allot. This audience is very familiar with me talking about losing my dad cancer. When i was young. I noticed this a lot in the way that people talk about others who have died. They'll say things like oh well. But you know that person smoked. This wasn't the case with my dad. But will that person smoked or but they did this thing that i don't do or but they are this characteristic. I'm not what we try to do. Is somehow create a a me and them to put distance in between the fact that this horrible thing happened to them. But oh gosh. It could never happen to me because we have this thing. That's different about us. And so i'm safe and i bring up this point about in your experience beforehand because everyone is going to go through their share of truly difficult truly trump potentially traumatic really hard situations. And i don't say this to be pessimistic or to make anyone panic or feel anxiety but more to say stick with us on this episode. Because what you're gonna learn is important and when you come to the moment when you are facing adversity. You're gonna want these tools in your tool kit to help you through it. Because the time to learn them is well before you need them so the time has pretty much now. We've got the expert on the line so now is the time to learn them. Great point april. And i would like to respond by saying two things festival. People going to go through some of these major life crises even though they didn't 'cause it it just came out of the blue and there's all sorts of reasons mostly life is outside of our control most of the events that happened ally for outside of control. So it's going to happen to us irrespective even if we do all the right health things we do. The relationship counseling things. Do all the things that you know we think leash we should be doing and still misfortune night visit us. If it doesn't visit us it will visit somebody that we really care about with. That's one of a family or it's a work colleague or a friend. And how do we be with that person when they going through that. So that's the first point. The second point is this idea of dissociation. You know we have these psychological mechanism. The human brain is incredibly fascinating. Still legally a relatively young nine but one of the abilities that has an distinguishes us from other animals is that we can time travel so we can connect the pasta with the prison and with the future. We do what i like to coal. Build a story itself so he create a sense of self which has a whole story or narrative about it. And it's like you know. I was born. Heroes You know i was always the black sheep in the family or a wasn't so as the conformance one. Whatever we build up the story about ourselves to meet projected into the future. And we say this is my future's looking based on on my narrative for my story itself and then something comes along and it disrupts that story so says hey no this this idea you had about your future isn't isn't it at all. And so we have this ability to not only build the story itself but dissociates or put out of mind the idea that suffering intense suffering that we talk about now nine. Visit us you know. I'm an ocean swim. So i swim in the in the ocean of these coast here where i live and we have sharks. We don't have a lot of shots but it's you know people do get attacked by them. In if i some across the bay will wear myself and other soon as swim. If i keep thinking or any minute now ashok And take a bit of a nip. I'm gonna stop swimming so it's i know. The risk is incredibly low. I'm more likely to be hit by a car driving to the beach than i had taken by a shock in the ocean. But if i keep thinking about that. Shock is going to visit me while. I'm assuming i'm going to stop swimming. But i love swimming so much in it. So good for me. And i know the is really low. I just put out of my mind. That's going to happen to me. And there was one other thing i might add. Is that you know this perfect life. I had Also included the perfect marriage. But now i'm divorced after after you know all those things happen in in things played out my wife on the divorce and I thought i never going to be the person that would have a divorce. I'm such together personal psychologists. It wouldn't have to me. That's what happens to other people. That's how i used to think. Yeah something you mentioned around. Dissociation is so interesting about it a lot on this podcast too. But i wanna make sure that i draw the connection here. Many of these say abilities or habits or heuristic or just ways of operating that. Our mind has a lot of them in in normal. Circumstances are very adaptive. They're very helpful right it. It is helpful to be able to dissociate sharks so that you can swim There are a number of times in our life when we need to be able to put that out of our mind in order to move forward. I mean think about every risk could possibly think of leaving your house like we would all probably stay in our homes if those were constantly top of mine but when when it when we get out of the context of quote unquote normal circumstances. Just your sort of average run of the mill day. Some of those operating systems or heuristic habits. They're less helpful to us there. Less adaptive for us and You know certainly trauma and adversity is one of those times. When we're pushing it so far away that were not admitting to ourselves that something could potentially happen So i love that. You brought that up. I'd i'd love to ask about trauma itself the the felt experience of something traumatic from the perspective of the person who's going through it there. There is a lot that happens in our mind. I'm wondering if you can talk through. Actually what happens in our mind or why. Why can it be so difficult for us to sort of move on or move forward or get through this traumatic experience. What happens to us you mentioned. ptsd What happens to us. When we're experiencing adversity or trauma of that level. That can make it so difficult for us to move forward. Yes shaw When i went to therapy as i said this before my stroke it after i had to close my practice because of sakala whose name is wayne said. I think you've got ptsd What what became really apparent. As i was talking through my life. Experiences with him was that they were only what we call lightbulb. Memories memories of of events that had happened which had never quite my mind and this type of traumatic memory is gonna flavor to it. That's different from an everyday kind of memory. So if i ask you what what you've had for lunch yesterday you probably don't remember. You might remember unless it was subsequently significant event like was the buffet lunch or something had some strong emotion attached to it so out traumatic memories have a strong emotion attached to it and what becomes clear that we never fully processed them. Because they've activated you know part of our brain now buddy. I liked to give up. Ryan isn't embodied. Brian runs through. A whole body is at the time it couldn't fully handle process so it's just put it in the storage shed at the back What happened with me and what happens with other people that cuts receivers of of traumatic events. Is that they become stored up to a point way. Those memories still very much alive are operating in a way that makes it difficult to function. Normally so my experience hell went from functioning. Only to not normal was that i was becoming preoccupied. We just mentally preoccupied with things going wrong. It was the sense that something bad is about to happen and walking down the street of my town where you know perfectly friendly town and nothing bad happened. But i'm walking down. The side will thinking what what bad thing is about to happen. Or i'd be sitting in a restaurant or in a public place on. I would have to seek near the door near the exit in case something bad happened so i like to describe it as drid feeling of dread was hanging around me like a bad smell and i think the other way to think the other experience i had was that not only was i on high alert all the time and you know loud sounds for example which triggered me so that i shudder and shake. Was that just idea of the sense of kales. The idea that the world was unsafe and that everything was felt like. I was in a chaotic situation where i had no control we before you had control over. Mind my thoughts and my behaviors. And when i was going through therapy. What what wine with to is just he said go back through alive and bring up any memories in this is with closed is bring up any memories that that Seemed to be stay stuck in your mind or trouble. And i was going back to sort of twenty years with the memory of when i started working in the prison system and i was surprised. How vibrant those movies were and son miche. Brian had been unable to fully process those memories. Those events at the time like would every a event when he used the therapeutic technique that helps type emotional steam out of those memories so that now those memories a mostly just memories. They things that bother me like they used to at is really really helpful as a helpful description. Something i've talked with people about a bit again. Something else that i've shared on the podcast. Quite openly is The experience that i had after my children were born. I experienced severe postpartum depression and anxiety after my first daughter but then when my second daughter was born i realized it's it's shocking to say but i realized that i had essentially ptsd symptoms happening as a result of feeling. Like i was being taken back to that. I was not experiencing postpartum depression anxiety at the time but it smelled of it. The context around it was so much about evoking the experience that i had with my daughter that i couldn't believe how surprising and sudden that experience was and something that is interesting about both what happened with me and what happened with you is. It's not like any one of those experiences. Was one major traumatic event right. Like it wasn't that i was held up at gunpoint and thought i was going to lose my life. It wasn't one major traumatic event. And the way. I've thought you know explained it to people i'd love your reaction to this is almost taking a legal perspective when in the us when we talk about things like sexual harassment. We talk about it needing to be severe or pervasive meaning. It can be one big severe or it can be more low grade but pervasive happening often or frequently over time. I'd love your reaction to that explanation. Because i've been using it just in full disclosure but i'd love your reaction to it. So what exactly you asking me. I pull quench show. Yeah just the idea that we can experience these. Ptsd type symptoms or experienced trauma in a couple of ways that it can be either one very severe event or it can sort of build over time after we experience multiple. i guess less severe events but still they. They're still enough to register to us. Use of gotcha. Now you. you're well. I think one of the things i used to When i was leading in sydney was i would consult for for a company that would be critical incident stress debriefings. And that was you know that model way way. Somebody's head maybe a hold up at work or this being Suicide you know a multi vehicle accident and the in the workplace and in someone like me as cooling to debrief Provide any follow up counselling with those people that were directly or indirectly affected and that would be like a single event where somebody's not expecting that to happen and most often unite people agai to recover from those single events. Tedious is actually quite a small amount of those people. Incidents of those people into the recovery initially have a of post traumatic stress symptoms. But they'll dissipate over time on a part of the critical stress. Debriefing is just normalizing people. Simpson's win an event like that happens. I think what you'll also pointing to is way cookie in a workplace or it could be a life situation where you're getting those repetitive. But as decided low grade types of events happening which build up over time and a good example of that would be paramedics or even service men or women. You know you know whoa sitting where what's different about in is they're actually trained to expect these types of things to happen so when these events happened advance that you or i might find traumatic. 'cause we're not. We're not trying to be a woods in order to be a paramedic Way we might be completely knocked overboard. But they're trying to to do that so and expecting that to happen. That's a reading for difference. What's happening to him. Though he said these events in the workplace stuck to accumulate and over time build this internal monster. And that's really what. I had experienced because empathy as we know is a very valuable a skill and ability to have to be able to put ourselves in somebody else's shoes Somebody working in a service position like myself. Will you'll sell. We wanna have a the but the empathy can hook because when we're being empathic to somebody else's distress as a paramedic might be they feelings physiologically. They feeling some of the experience of the person the day helping so they creating internal distress in themselves. and that's why paramedics for example knee ways of of self-seeding and understanding their experiences in crisis experiences so they're not getting a buildup of these trauma related physiological response. Each time they turn up for. Would sean how a going with the answer to your question. His super helpful. It's actually a great segue. Because i would love to talk a bit about helping people think about how they can move through these experiences when it happens to them. You mentioned your book. The power of suffering growing through life crises. I know there's a number of stories in that book that talk about people who have gone through incredibly difficult experiences and have managed to grow from it learn from it how that feels so impossible when we think about some of the most difficult things we've gone through can you take us through Even if it maybe even like a story from the book or take us through an example of that. How do we do that. Yes yes well. Look this this some very strong stories in in the book and i i was interested in looking at a range of stories. different types of traumas. If we can call them traumas and this paradox that when live dishes out some life shattering event which you didn't survive. How can it possibly turn into something. That has silver linings or more than that. You know a growth expert said that we change in ways that we actually really liked that. We don't lose the way that we've changed will the person that we've become even though we wouldn't choose to go through that event a game necessarily although some people say you know i had an accident. Became a paraplegic and it was the best thing that ever happened to me. Because of the life lessons that have gained. I mean one of the stories. In in the bookies jane who is the first story in the balkan is i bike to her because she was an ex colleague of mine and i was trying out beside year. Do people grow through their it boosted and her daughter georgia was eighteen had just finished her final year exams. It's high school and had this wonderful life ahead of her incredibly bride lovely personality and was guide to head off to south america on. You know hit big trip which say fool That she started to complain of pain and it. It took a few days for diagnosis to come through. But she had ovarian cancer and this was not in the life story of giants family at georgia. Etel end gay. It was a type of cancer that was you know very fast acting in had very low success writing terms of treatment but they embarked on treatment anyway in there a few times in the hopeful that the cancer had been removed but then it would come back again and then finally there was acceptance. That gioja was dying to to die. She wasn't going to survive and this is about a year after that first signs of pain and they celebrated her day. So james said. I didn't want a house of dying in the house of leading so joe to still in the family hein that people would come and visit and i guess one of the advantages if you can think of it this way when when we know that we're not going to survive know people have time to show they being in the occa- care and for you to do the same and to leave To address any regrets that you might have so. This was devastating to jane and she united she opened the admits that time she was suicidal She's a psychologist so she has a lot of the you know the wellbeing strategies that the mom would end in time she she found going to work was one of the best things for her. You know to try and create some try reestablish. Some routine of the georgia had had left the family and she was drinking alcohol quite a lot in the evening. She said that helped me to stop shaking n. I think it's interesting. I want just not at that point that when people recovering from a crisis like this we gotta be careful not to tell them what they shouldn't shouldn't do like it would encounter intuitive that jane is drinking You know about the wine or bottle of wine a night just steady nerves but it actually got hooked through. I mean she wasn't doing anything dangerous but it got us through that difficult period. The other thing that that she was doing was telling his story a lot so there were other friends who would come to her that she would connect with who had also bain through life ending experiences. And you will find that those people who through such experiences automatically in chew it what you're experiencing a if it's not the same experience that you've had this is a way of being with take away just simply bringing your prisons way you know there's nothing to be fixed is nothing to be changed but you'll bringing your presence. You'll companionship your understanding. As much as you can understand experience and you're offering like a blackboard or whiteboard so that they can tell their stories and put these stories on your white would because that's helping them to understand what's happened and it's also grinding away. You know this associative effect that we've talked about before where we finally reach. Acceptance is how it is now georgia's gone what life can i make for myself now and that is when the growth starts to happen once we've achieve acceptance we've talked about acceptance a few times on the podcast and it's such a tough concept for people to wrap their minds around because you hear the word acceptance and you think it means appreciation or you agree with what happened or you're glad about it and that isn't it. It's just getting to a point where you can acknowledge what happened without wrestling with it mentally so much that you can be at a place where you could not acknowledge the facts of something that happened whether you like them or not whether you would prefer it to be different or not acknowledging that and that feels like if i'm getting this right you're saying that's that first step that needs to happen before. True growth can happen after a really difficult situation is so acceptance. You've put your finger on a great acceptance is not about liking what's happened a signaling loads happen and starting to behave or act is if that's true so georgia's gone i k so i've still got this life fleet How can i make you know this the most meaningful life. What am i going to do knowing that. She's gone and that except you might stop behaving as if georgia's gone but still there'll be times when you think. Oh maybe she isn't so this acceptance can have a long child but the important thing is behaviorally. We start acting in a way which suggests that we're accepting this is how it is now. It feels like there is so once people have accepted once they are behaving in a way where you know they're saying yes this. This thing did happen. How do you make the pivot from that to growth. How do you make it means something for you. How do you learn from it. How does that pivot happen. It's a prosise so in the early days you know having a lot of intrinsic relation a of thoughts about oh you know georgia's gone. I want back and this is wake creating a lot of suffering for ourselves before we've really got to acceptance stage when we get to the except on stage way studying to engage a lot more in self reflection. I so george gone. But i've still got my son with me asuka my husband or my work. You know you start to see. What do i have. And how can i live a live without george My story was that i would be going to a wedding. You know that sort of thing and she would be coming to my funeral i. It's it's gone the wrong room so so this period is self reflection and it is period of self reflection that we've often engaged new relationships so people will come into your life that you never expected them to. You know this is a said. These people have also been through upending life events and people will drop out of your life that you didn't think they would Case family friends just couldn't handle what had happened and they turned out to be very disappointing in terms of support but on the other hand new people came into alive and she engaged in in new activities. Which would bring her into. Contact with with new. People will help a given you a perspective. So it's this period self reflection and engaging new things that will start to give you a new perspective and then what happens. Is that as you get a tight. This new perspective you start to have new experiences new jaws. Open your continue possibilities. You also start to recognize that that you've actually just been through something really tough and one of the growth aspects. Is this idea of personal courage. That win win. We survived something we will back on. 'em we stink. How did i get that. I never realized that i was so strong. But the truth is that you know when lee surviving. We just put one foot in front of the other. We just trying to get through the day today. but after a time when we survive we can look back me. Think wow. i'm much stronger than i. That i thought i was another growth. That speak seems to be. You realize what's more important. Dini alive. What you value the mice in common way that is in a relationships in connection and the types of connection that you want so sometimes you might Discovered some people on cheese is because you you start to see what what makes you names in. What's good for you and what's not you your wisdom starting to kicking in and we also tend to experience much more gratitude so you become more grateful for the things that you do have and that the things that you do have aren't necessarily expensive things of people tend to become a bit more spiritual nit into valley things for the experience accused them rather than you know how much i only know what looks like and level of that. That's it's so it's so powerful because it gives people an idea of what that other side looks like. And i really just it resonate so much with me when i think about the path after my dad passed away and what that looked laying it really did follow so much of Along with so much of what you said How about when it's other people you know so common that when something really difficult happens we feel awkward. We don't know what to say. We don't know the right thing to do. We tend to withdraw just because we don't know what to say or do when in fact that is the last time or that's the one of the worst things that we can do because that person does need support. How do we be there for someone else. Who's going through something really difficult. Yup greg question so just Briefly touch back on that idea of dissociation which he said you know savant. It can be a survival strategy. Differently is most of the time. But when you know somebody a friend or a loved one goes through major crisis and they really need us to be a that. Dissociation affect is not helpful. So we become distressed by the other person's suffering or the other person's distress what way so the uncomfortableness really is with our district's about their destroyers will what they're experiencing brings up for us. You know like if if you'll if you'll framed is gone through a divorce and that may be triggered feelings about you and your relationship that's creating your own discomfit in that could be a reason. Why on you don't want to be with them. So i was really keen on Do not understand this better. In one of the stories in my new book is a senior chaplain with States ambulances. That's probably was talking about her. Many full set got time to stand How he works at paramedics on the scene. You know maybe on the roadside after an accident aura. You know in the himes afterwards. And i was really ancient. So what does the chaplain bring to a alive. Crisis in my destroyed pull mccollum was telling me. He said waiting going to the high of a family where a child has died and a sick with them in in the lounge room You know have a cup of tea with them and they may not be very much conversation at all but after we leave and he's talking about the chaplain out. After we leave they think coast. They say thank you for all you've done and he said you know you think what do i was. Just within and pull explains really beautifully. How everybody else in that situation. All the agency service workers. Everybody else is busy doing their thing. You know this job that they've been trying to do. But no one's actually sitting with the hoods or the grief over the shock of the family as going through. Noah's actually net really hot plays and what paul says is that. We don't need to fix it so we miss somebody else going through crisis. Of course we want to keep them safe. Provide for any practical needs. They've gone but it's not a situation. We can fix certainly not in the beginning so we don't have to feel any responsibility to say the right thing or do the right thing that would lead to some better outcome. Seem that moment in early guys. There is no better. Outcome is nothing to be fixed. It's nothing to be changed other than you know. As a site to address any practical needs of a friend or a loved one and so what it comes down to is we actually done have to say very much at all We don't have to. At and i say this strongly. Now i'm now i'm lis- concerned myself when we somebody who's in distress about saying the right being. I think i will just need to be. And i can say i don't know what to say. This is terrible. This is beyond my experience. I don't know what to say You could ask something say anything you would like me to do But we don't want to presume we know what's best for them and we don't want a truck cliches in like this awful cliches. Somebody's child and they'll say oh. You can have another one this these cliche. They actually really hood so does trout. Eggs cliches So i'm not sure how we going. That's so helpful. it's funny. I'm sitting here trying to compose myself because you mentioned the the chaplain person in your book. And i hadn't thought about this for. Oh gosh decades probably but one of them like one of the most helpful figures when my dad was sick especially and and when he died but when he was sick was the police department chaplain matera but his name was shot and he was so sweet. He did exactly what you said. He came in south of us. So i can't believe i've never put two and two together that that's exactly what you do you do. What walton you with people so good us so good okay so while. I compose myself over here. It's not often that a guest can get me to tear up usually. I've thought through and talk through an whatever everything so if you don't mind me saying i think what what your emotional reaction speaks to know. April is hell hell impactful. It is simply to be with somebody just debate with theme So so incredibly valuable that somebody wasn't afraid and they were just there. It felt like a steady point in a situation when everything felt like it was moving around it was so little With all of your background and all of your expert expertise in your experience. I would love for you to talk about what psychological strength means to you. I think of psychological strength and a ni- i related to myself and that is coastal we need to. I need to have an awareness of what. I like to call my intern with somebody. In turn away. There is my thoughts to my feelings and my physical sensations. that's the data only chatroom oricon. So bad in the will being aware mine. Turn with a tells me gives meeting information. I need to to make Good decisions the other thing. I would say he's away managing emotions. So life is gonna throw curve balls in. A senator will react automatic that we you know no control iva but how do i. How do i manage my emotions. After to the event you have ways of calming down. If i need to come down. If i'm feeling angry do i have ways constructive ways of channelling that life experience helps a lot with with learning to do those things. The other thing out. I think of as a psychological strength is this idea of curiosity curiosity or openness to new experiences on new learning because if we just stay the same we never learn. We never inquire and this came out in my research for this book. Those people who grow had this curiosity jane. If you like this you know the doctor might say something to them. But they say But this is some other way we can think about this or is it more about the so hacking to find out more about that. Or who else. Can i talk to so this curiosity gene openness learning and i guess the final one week be Reaching out to others just recognizing that we can't always manage life events on aaron or even if we could get through them. Would it be better to get the help of somebody else. So this idea that. It's not week to reach. How but being you know showing your voluble to suitable people at suitable times you've own ability is actually an asset. It's a string and through all of these qualities with life experiences we developed with we develop a bitter on the standing of ourselves and the way the will works in the way of the people work and that really is gross when the chief that wisdom and love that. I love that way of thinking about it. I'm hoping you can give us a little bit of direction. If people are interested in learning more about you about getting your recent book or i any of your other books that you've written tell us where we can find more about you After this conversation you sure. I think the best part of cool would be my website which is my name david. Rowland r a will a e. dot com doda. You and from there. I post the videos another interviews on blokes My social media channels so they so people can connect through my social media channels My books are available as audiobooks apex. Anyway the paperback of the paris suffering suspending released in you. Kate's available casino strategy new zealand. And i think from the us you would probably order it through amazon uk or book depository one of those on the get and the same with my other my previous book. How risky my brain. That's that's why valuables slow perfect. I'll make sure that we link up to a your website in the show notes. So if you are to this episode you should be able to just swipe up scroll down and get to those links quick and easy david. This has been fantastic. I love the depth of knowledge that you have around this important topic i love. You can just feel that care and empathy that you bring as you approach these very delicate difficult topics and that's exactly what we need as we're thinking about moving through some of the most difficult times of our lives so i really appreciate you being here and taking the time with us today. Thank you april. And thank you for your genuineness is will. 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