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REShow: Greg Cosell  & Michael Wilbon  - Hour 2 (06-28-21)

The Rich Eisen Show

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REShow: Greg Cosell & Michael Wilbon - Hour 2 (06-28-21)

"This is the rich eisen. Show love it tonight. Do rich eisen. Communicator i know from the rich eisen show studio in los angeles nola braun. And there's no steph curry and there's no kevin durant and there's no kyrie irving and there's no james harden and these are the shruggy emoji nba play-offs show sees gas from nfl films. Greg co host of espn. Pardon the interruption. Michael wilpon actor. Nick actor colin hanks. And now you're rich is our number two of the rich eisen show on the air. We spent the first hour discussing the nba playoffs over the weekend. We also spent the first hour talking about what scottie pippen Told our colleague and friend. Dan patrick preceding this show every single day on nbc sports on peacock and preceding this show every day on nbc sports audio on sirius. Xm channel to eleven. We say hello to all those watching on those formats or this rich. Eisen show terrestrial radio affiliate In this radio station smart enough to have us is the way i like to put it. Aussie is how you can stream every single day for free coast to coast as well All of our guests are coming up in this hour and next hour And part of our guests is you at eight. Four four zero four rich being the number to dial our number two hour number three We have colin. Hanks calling into the program. He's diehard kings fan. Wants to talk about the ninety. Three stanley cup kings loss to montreal canadian last time montreal was in the cup final And kings fans thought they got a host because of Marty mcsorley having his stick looked at out of the clear blue sky in game. Two of that series in the cursive. Marty mcsorley still reigns over the entire city of montreal and Country of canada. I can't wait for colony. Give you those stories. Montreal takes on toronto tonight in game one of the stanley cup. Final nick. Two zero who is livid over his yankees. What's the word for sucking That will be hopefully as stringent word as he will use and he might Transpose the first letter of that word As he does on his twitter feed many times may who's gonna join us in studio. He's coming in to help them and help each other. We can help each other. I figured i'd give you a gift chris. Second consecutive yankees. Sweep of the red sox. We'll well me. Red sox sweep of the yankees not to pat myself on the back here. But i think i've been very constrained and my gloating. It's okay you can go it all. You want it still regular season baseball and i don't follow the sport anymore. So what is it. Why does it even worth Michael will join us in about eighteen minutes time. But i i wanted to get This went on the phone line. Because i was poking around today when the announcement came. And we've heard many of these announcements in the past when somebody gets named that for enshrinement in a sports hall of fame and you're like how the hell is that person not in yet. I felt that person would be in in the broadcasters wing for the pro football hall of fame. The voice of god as he was referred to many times For nfl films for all those years. John zenda he's going in posthumously. You passed away in the early eighties and poked around. Nfl phones. mike who who worked with him. Who still there at nfl films today and sure enough. It was the person who i thought it would be. the senior producer of nfl films. Who's on all the time on this program but Now here in late. June greg cosell here on the rich eisen. Show how you doing greg rich good to be with. There's always i am pleased to have you here. So what's your recollection of john for santa. Greg cosell well. it's funny. I have a number of recollections. Rich number one is. I was the last one to work with him before he unfortunately passed which was nineteen eighty. Four and i had to go to his house because he could no longer make the journey from his home to nfl films. And i remember working with him that day and it was evident that he was just not quite the same guy but he was john for santa But my probably my most vivid memories are. When i first started i started at. Nfl films in nineteen seventy nine and probably got the opportunity to start working with john. No nineteen eighty. I would say. And i was young. I was just really learning the documentary filmmaking. Business and did not have a whole lot of confidence in myself writing scripts. I'd written a ton of papers in college. Writing scripts to be read is far different than writing papers. And i remember writing my first number scripts and john would read them and i just remember it being so so nervous going into the booth with john for santa And obviously i did not grow up in philadelphia but john was essentially the walter cronkite of philadelphia for people who remember when one person sat at a desk and just read the news. That's the way local. News was as well back in the day so john was in philadelphia. Really the walter cronkite of philadelphia. And i just remember going into that booth because you'd go into a little booth you know you've done a in your career and there's just the two of you sitting there and you feel very enclosed very cost or phobic and people are looking at you and he would read your script and so nervous that he would just you know kind of look at me like This really isn't very good and all you waited to hear john stadium because there was one of his favorite expressions. Was you've given me a good horse to ride. And if john percent said that to you all was right in the world. I could just imagine the way you've given me a good halston. Your fortunately i heard that a few times. You know great good horse to ride. Oh my gosh. And then of course the number of horses that he rode Figuratively obviously the way. You just said it greg. Cosell as written by steve. Sable autumn wind is a poem that steve sable wrote. I mean what a combination. The fact that steve due to the pandemic his enshrinement was delayed to this. To this summer he was named last year. Right they're gonna go together. I mean how incredible is that is already there too. That's that's from its phenomenon it's It's funny because i steve every day i come into the building here. Nfl films because he was really my mentor. He was the one who encouraged me to do so many things that fortunately turned out well. But you know. It's getting back to john for minute. You almost had to really work for to write a script for him because it would have been easy just to write anything and you could say to yourself. John's gonna make it sound great. You know which which through really but just had to kind of say to yourself. No no no i can. I can write better lines than what i just wrote. Even though john could make anything sound like it came from the mountain top But you know he was he was just the thing though that and like steve. It's funny that we're talking about them together. Just a genuine human being. That was the thing. It's just like with steve. I mean there's so much people who didn't know steve all remember about him and the impact. Nfl films has had in our lives. But steve was such a genuine caring human being and john was the exact same kind of person. I'll put you on the spot a little bit here greg. Do you remember your your favorite line. The best horse that you gave him to right so that was a. That was a long time ago. I can't remember that you know 'cause back then You start out. Doing highlight films yard. Nfl films really to to learn how to make a film because we do a highlight film for every Every team in the league. We still do it. And in the early days When you were going and starting out you would do three every off season. I remember my first five six years. I would do. Three highlight films every off season. And that was the point to learn how to make a film when you had some kind of deadline and So i don't remember specific lines. But of course i was starting to do other things as i learned the business as well But no i can't remember any specific lions but that that's what you always waited for the the good horse to ride. I love that and I mandated ask you. Did your uncle howard ever cross paths with john. I don't know You know the only thing. I remember and i was very conscious because of who i was. You know my name that. I did not want my uncle to be involved anytime i when i came in college and was looking for a job because i did not want that to be the reason i got a job but because my uncle and had sable close friends i did find out later on that they did speak and i don't know what they spoke about I'm hoping My uncle said good things you told it like it was about youtube. Greg would imagine so. I would imagine so but But i remember speaking my uncle. The highlight one of my highlights when he wrote his first book I remember he was talking about college sports. And obviously that was the same is true today but it was certainly going on back then where college sports it started to be about. Money and with the scholarships and the whole deal and and i was in college at the time. He wrote his first book. So we're talking seventy four to seventy eight nne somewhere around there. And i remember he wrote about me on a page or because i went to amherst college where. They don't give athletic scholarships. But i did play sports and i guess he was using meas example of what it was supposed to be what he thought was that was that i never played the game. Is that the by believe. That was the first one. Yes i never played the game. I had the copy that i i mean. I've definitely read that greg. No doubt about that Before i let you go what film you look at. Give me give me something. What are you doing right now. Actually believe it or not. I'm on vacation. But because i don't have anywhere to go right now i've been coming into the office. Just kind of you know revisiting things from a year ago this morning watching jalen hurts. His last four star. Okay Because obviously it appears he'll be the starting quarterback for the eagles. So i'm actually going to jump into watching joe burrow. The nice thing about doing this. I can pick and choose whatever i wanna watch. So it's not gonna watch all four hundred of joe burrow throws so i'll pick you know i'll watch third down. You know i. I watch whatever i kind of care to watch because i can with the help of vacation greg. That's amazing. so what do you see from jalen hurts. Would what would you say. I think there's going to be a lot of work to do to be honest with you. I i think. He's very symptomatic of quarterbacks that have always been able to move around and i think he leaves the pocket prematurely I don't think he has a really good feel at this point. And don't forget. He only started. Four games is not defining his career I don't think he has a feel right now for playing from the pocket as it gets later in the down He leaves a to throws on the field because of that so It'll be interesting and he has to earn new often. So it'll be an interesting year for for jail hurts. It's my understanding. He'll be the starting quarterback. I don't think there's really a competition. I think it'll be him but he's got some work to do. I mean it's definitely going to be him right. I mean lyft. Flacco is not going to beat him out. I mean you're going to be. Joe flacco right. I mean so it's gonna be it's be hurts and then he's got this year to figure it out before they use all those draft picks they have in the following first round. That'll be probably three based on our assumption. That wentz is going to be playing as much as we expect him to in indianapolis that they'll either draft one or may be used it to go acquire one in never depend. I guess on hurt hurt ends up developing and then playing well and it appears he'll be the guy then right they i mean they may draft one later but they wouldn't have to take early if that were the case. Greg thanks for the time. Appreciate the memories. I we just figured dull talking senda with you a little later. It's thanks for reaching out. Of course that's greg. Cosell follow on twitter. I do it at greg cosell. You should follow them to. That was fun. I think of steve sable all the time number of times that he would just e we would we would call them up and just i would call him up to. I would call them out. Call up steve. Sable on like this happened in the nfl. Like you've got a good story off of that. A good right and he would like four or five different stories and we off the top of his beautiful brain his health though many unbelievable and for is going in who the hell emmy again. He was the local god. Turning to the weather like literally was the local guy in philadelphia. Had sables like he's got a great voice. Look let's have him do our films. And then steve would write stuff form. Like the autumn wind is a pirate. Spiraling football tight. Shot widening out for. Send his voice sables language. Sometimes greg cosell's incredible you imagine he says you've given me a great hall style ride. I just want that line in hidden in the vicinity and steve told me sable told me years ago that there are a bunch of outtakes of for senate cursing up a red storm. Just you know cursing himself for screwing up. Take one of our great fan. Oh my gosh. Working for senate. Work in blue would be something i'd take. Let's take this call real quick jeff in detroit before we take our break in And have Mister wilpon joins jeff. Hey wonderful hey cousins house everything upto. Listen not much not much. I wanted to talk real quick about scotty. Pippin when you're the fifty one of the fifty greatest player you usually speak with reverend honor insight. It sounds like oh awesome. Things man he really and truly is and i've got a question for you real quick. What's the hardest statement so you to believe right now. If i were told you this at the beginning of the play offs reggie. Jackson is the mvp for the lakers. The brooklyn nets would not would not even make it to the eastern conference finals. Or there's a player that's guaranteed hundreds of seventy seven million dollars that passes up a wide open because he's scared to get file. It happened to the. What's the craziest. I i would. I would say reggie jackson being the mvp of the clippers. I would say because you know you never know what the nets and you've seen stranger things in the fact that simmons won't shoot anymore. I don't know that that is certainly you. You would believe that. Ben simmons was would disintegrate. Potentially i mean that's not that far fetched though it is obviously fetched. You know but back to back. Back to scotty pippin usually when you hear somebody up and i mean even if you don't get a ring like you and the barclay you still speak with reverence or you know it's like bygone and things like they enjoy being one of the fifty greatest players. It almost seems like this guy. Didn't if you were to listen to you wouldn't think you want anything. Because he also full of animals. I thank you for the call. Jeff i mean not to be a psychoanalyst but i'll i'll do it real quick. You imagine you do what you do to get where you get and how self made you are small school drafted and you make so many big shots and you are absolutely in a team sport. Somebody who is one of the best added top fifty all time and you're not even considered remotely in the area code of the best player on the team and the best player on the team might be very difficult to get along with and doesn't share in the glory as a default how that must feel and the one year that the best player that wasn't there and you could be the one to carry the team. You didn't take the last shot and the coach. That was there the entire time you feel had something against you. Maybe that's the way you go again. I don't mean to psychoanalyze anybody but how many of the other top fifty players that are in that list that old fame top fifty players. How many of those top fifty players do you look at and say that's not even the best guy on their team stockton would you. Maybe yeah i mean for a while you could say that about magic but he was also the first one go as well to In the in the you know it was always stocked into malone. He kind of had top billing true role because he. I know that he was the one who i am just. But i'm just talking about yeah. Tj in just the phraseology. That we use his fans referring him not like he's the best he's better than malone which always hey was stockton malone whether it's malone stockton malone right. I'm just talking about how it can mess with. Somebody said make sense. Let's take break. Michael wilpon will join us next right on this program so much to talk about with one of my favorites. The great hall of famer. Michael wilbon will join us next. 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I'd probably scrambled the remarks that he made. Okay you know. But i mean nobody feels that way anymore and i really am on cowboys twitter. Life i don't i see a bunch of angry and annoy cowboy fans. I don't see cowboys. Fans like walking around like chiefs or something like what he thinks. Oh my lord. Don't know if you i don't know you and i don't mean to catch any verges on you as a human being. I'm sure you're very nice to highly intelligent nude with this particular subject. You are a damn life that you can say with a straight face that you don't run into cowboy cowboy fan of all the aiding fan base. You could possibly find. You never take second. No you're also looking at beaver. Great great moments. That i had just remember two thousand and ten when you ended up going six to ten but then those weren't my favorite years couch because actually like the cowboys play making toy with the prog came over there and all but he was my favorite moment. Two thousand eleven two thousand twelve two thousand thirteen. Not only dallas cowboys. Finished eight eight season. They had the lab game a regular visit crown or the live four four three years. It doesn't get much sweeter than y'all still shooting man stephen. As good as they come youtube dot com slash richeisenshow for our felarca back here on nbc sports on peacock in this rich eisen show. Radio network terrestrial satellite and streaming. Police have back here. One of my favorite people. That i'm so thrilled to be able to call a friend. And for the first time on this program a hall of famer physcially from espn and their nba coverage and the terrific. Pardon the interruption. Our friend michael wilbon. How are you sir rich. I'm pretty good. How are you doing. I'm hanging in there so There's so much going on my gosh. I'm just going to dive right into it if you don't mind Did you see what scottie pippen had to say on our friend Dp show today. I just i just saw a luckily thank you for you. I i was. I was starting a sleep marathon last night when i got back from From clippers sons and that that was that was going to mean about fifteen hours up on days without it. And so i saw nothing on my own. Thankfully your producer sent me this I say thankfully so. I can be aware and i just looked at it and shook my head and i you know i don't i don't know i know i. I start to scotty occasionally And sometimes like during previous seasons. It'd be more than occasionally because we would work together on rachel show on the job and and No scotty for a long. Long time. I i. i don't have any extra knowledge. I have no special intel on this. I looked at it and went. What like probably most people did so. I'm just. I'm just catching up. And then we're all going to have to react to it and to whatever comes from it the reactions to the reactions but Yeah i'm just. I'm just now seeing know half an hour stoke. So what were your boots. On the ground recollection of the ku coach and pippen moment back in the day We'll look at it was it was it was as dramatic as as nba can get I was at the game And immediately i didn't know. I didn't realize this guy who was on the court coming out of that time out and then you look look looking. You're wondering what's going on and all flash But and there was you know there was no social media of course to just dissect it over and over and over again a million times in the next you know forty eight hours and it was. It was it. Was you know scottie's low moment and it's certainly a moment that i know he hated having to relive during the last dance I did you know communicate with him. After that. And i you know. I was one of those people who is critical. You know how could you. How could you not be. I also think that the moment. Unfortunately and i talked to scott that that that game that moment You know it. Colour him for a long time. And i thought i came to rich that it. It couldn't be the only thing that that made us think a certain way about skipping because he did win six in one he didn't want to he wants six and michael never one without him and he went on to play for team that should have been in the nba finals. You know the portland trailblazers. Nineteen point lead in the fourth quarter of a game. Seven against the lakers. Kobe and shaq and i don't know how that winning and getting to the finals. It's interesting how that might have changed further the narrative but i thought we were away from this. I thought i thought we were away from this. I said written public scotty. I'm not gonna solely judge you. By worst moment. None of us wants to be judged that way and his career has too much else in it. The resumes to full. And you know now. I hear this. I don't i. Don't i don't know what to think you michael wilbon here on the rich eisen show Just for you know. completion for the moment Pippen has just tweeted out. I'm just answering the questions. Y'all asking me you wanted the headlines you got them dig deeper to find out. Why actually said what i said. Instead of framing your questions to get clicks it's all love as with a heart emoji What do you think that means to find out i do. He's winning. I learned not to do rich Put too much into answers that come via social media. There's not discussion is social media. I don't know what it means. I can't. I can't tell you what it means. I can react to. Who i think phil jackson is and was in in my experience and i did not. I would not around fill every day. The people who the people who i will listen to on this will be And what they say are the people who played fulfil and one with him. So you know. I i know those men Obviously starting with michael jordan will be asked. I don't know how he will weigh in on so many others ron harper. Who i know. I wanna hear what ron harper i wanna hear would be armstrong has to say i wanna hear what steve kerr you know. Tony coup coach I i you know have been on a golf course a few times or sony which is a five hour. Fun fast i i. I would love to have four hours or five hours of access to tony today. so i i'm not gonna i don't i'm too old and too not of the generation to spend hours even minutes trying to figure out what people are saying with emojis and you know just secret phrases. That are not meant for me for my thirteen year. Old son i mike and mike. I can't do that. But but i want. I want to hear in in order to to get. Because you're gonna have to but it won't. I don't know what love means. I mean a everybody others these phrases these days using means nothing and you have to beneath it is asking. The question is is going to be asking the questions with scotty. Men who are on that team right. And so i guess the last one for you on this subject before we go to the here now. And micheal. wilpon is what what what. What can you tell me about the pippen jordan relationship. Because it's clearly something that pip pip and also said to dan that the the nba Entertainment cameras that picked up the huddle in which michael was seeming to be absolutely fine as well as be at the forefront of setting up for winning shot that we all know in the last dance about Was a setup. It was jordan knowing that the cameras were there and then he would control it for documentary. And i just seems to be a lot of calm a lot of confusing statements what it was all. They have a complex for the. They've had a complex relationship. I don't think any we. We saw that in the documentary. Which explains it much more than any. You know individuals statements. Well we saw that and and you know there was a time when they didn't i you know i don't know that it was ever in my view hostile. It was just. They are very different. People had a complex relationship. Which michael we know from the last dance. Just scottie pippen. But we know. Steve kerr you know we. We know those stories now And i i believe. I know that some of the reliving that i got i got i know Did it hurt him. To re reliving of these moments that her in the beginning i if if they were conflicts her thirty years ago then we know what they must feel like thirty years later They were never the best of friends. I mean there are people on the team. Michael was closer to bj armstrong. I'm there with people on the team that you know the irony of scotty and coup coach and they're hoping in the olympics. The dream team is got that toni kukoc and he became very close And you know when you mentioned scotty to throw. Only he was called a pip. And he'd have a smile on his face and scotty became very much as big brother. is is i interpreted from both of them So but these things are not. They're not gonna change right the relationships that you can't undo the relationships. You can't redo the relations mulligan you know Pun intended on these relationships. They were conflicts a year ago. Would we finish watching the last dance right about now. Maybe a month earlier price and So this is what it is and there was less examination of fill and the guys i mean mike has told me. Get to fill for a second He told me that the three most important in life and quoted him somewhere doing this washington post In live tommy. The three most important in his life were his father. Dean smith and phil jackson And in the context. I'd have to go back and get the context. I don't know petankis was well. Tv basketball because his dad right the headliner and obviously we know that that comes with no secret So that relationship. Maybe it was left conflict. I don't i don't i don't know that all of us know maybe chicago beat riders. Know a ton about phil's relationship with scotty other than one point eight seconds. Maybe michael von here on the rich eisen show. Pardon the interruption and of course the nba coverage that were were locked into With it appearing to be. Michael is it fair to say where we got sons bucks on the horizon to use the phrase. Okay now. i know we won't know won't go there. I mean. I think that. I think the look. I picked the sons in seven And i think the you know the clippers without kawhi leonard reduced. No question about that. It's like the sun's without chris. Paul chris paul even injured during that labor series or without him for the first two games of this season. I thought clippers. Add to get at least one of those who games and they didn't to win to beat The sons in their series. And they do that. But and then i don't trust milwaukee. I've been following this for three years. I've been watching milwaukee for three years. They do the oddest most bizarre thing. Some me dumb when people are just jacking up three e. every few games they just not even sometimes back the back game. I don't trust the bucks. I'll have to see them win. It atlanta should win that game last night. Atlanta should be up to one now. I'm not hearing it. linda camp. Tony my you know my partner in crime says you know when they lost game one because they're not losing another game milwaukee's gonna sweep. I know charles. So two of the people. I'm closest to in life When talking about sports believe atlanta was not gonna win another game. I don't believe that. I don't trust the milwaukee. Um there's too many bizarre things over the last few seasons and particularly this postseason and the clippers rich. They're tough they're tough minded up physically. They're not better without kawhi. Nobody's gonna say that they're not as good without kawhi but they're tough. They are And so i don't know. I think the suns will win tonight but i'm not loading it up. I think the sun. Let's put it this way. I believe the sun's will win this series. Am i ruling out further drama. No i'm not. I think they'll win the series. I think they'll win tonight but this is going to be alley. Fight the other night. That was the nineteen eighty basketball. And so when you have that kind of thing and the other team was willing to initiate an engage in that. I don't know i think there's good. There's more drama to be seen. Maybe being a close suns win tonight. It can be that way to well. I guess i'm not. I'm not counted. I guess the thing. That's most jarring about the boxes. Can you name me another team. Where the clear star of the team the mvp of a league To in a row isn't the closer of the. I mean wh- rare. I mean i'd have to examine every single championship team right. And i was trying to figure out you know was it. Was it. kenny. Smith and not a keen was it. So there's some of that. I mean i don't know. Sometimes it was notably on those on those spurs team early. you know. it wasn't necessarily david robinson was start early and then it became dunkin and then sometimes it was. It's floated and knows a four hall of fame on their team. Obviously it's rare. It's rare rich to your point and in this case it can't be because you can't go on four for wh- last night four for ten vows shootings crazy so you you know. It can't be a. Here's the other reason. I'm sure that how how. How do you with teams. That you've got like bobby portis six ten who's been the league for. I don't know seven years. Something like that seventy and you don't even play straight games in the series and you're playing against kevin durant. How do you how do you. How do you not play him at all. Not one second. You're looking for long tall athletic experienced bodies to even help out. Even if it's a foul kevin durant even getting his way accidentally and you don't play him for three games. After he's helped you sweep the first year i don't i. I don't understand anything. That milwaukee does anything he has. I don't say anything they do. And so my reaction. I'm not going to say they're bad at it. I'm not they're not bad. They're they're they're they're capable of winning a championship. I don't understand what the hell they're doing. Most nights michael wilpon here on the rich eisen show. What's your what's your Viewpoint of ben simmons viability as a sixer moving forward. When you see it. And i and i don't wish it on them bright and i'm i'm conflicted here. Rich i mean doc rivers is a friend not a friend one of my good friends all right. I'm biased. I'm biased toward doc rivers in every episode of these things. Don't back more years than i cured. Admit mitt and when i joke with him is not joking. That say people say. How long have you. I've known a lot longer because he had no reason to know who. I walked any playground or pickup court. Ever in life. I knew he was and so i knew for doc right i don't i don't i don't wish that on rivers. Ben simmons is a talent. I have my thirteen year. Old guy son who's plays point guard and he loves basketball. He loves his own father and he came to me about six weeks ago and he said dad. This is a liability. That's it mike. Shut up and go to your room without dinner and the dumbest thing. I've ever heard what you're gonna wanna play basketball. That's your your dad. Then some liability. This went on for weeks at my house. I had to go to him last week. And say okay you can come on. I joke story realized about my son saying that my reaction initially to them but rich business. I can you he needs. He needs a change of scenery. I need to change. I think there are places where he can have that change and somebody's gotta impress upon him. i. I picked up golden state as an example example. I'm not trying to do. A warriors. Bidding bob my getting and these. But that's a place where it seems to me that the roster the guys on the roster between the combination of just insolent basketball intellect. Tough love salt love. But it'd be would have probably you know having a combination of you know people that you know in that in that organization. That might be a place where he could prosper relatively quickly again. But i don't. I don't see it in philly in philly of all places really i mean i mean i would even wish that on bed who seems to be just a nice i. I've met him a couple of times. I haven't had exposure to privately. But i i just wish that on him i wish him to get his career redirected in the way that we would want. I don't know if this is apples and oranges. Because cam spent many you know a couple more years in carolina the minute that in super bowl fifty the ball was on the ground any kind of flinched at a an an all. The game was kind of over anyway. Denver was gonna win that super bowl but it it it you know. And then his reaction to the media afterwards. He wasn't the same quarterback there. I mean he did have half a season before he got hurt. I don't know if it's apples and oranges. But but simmons passing up that dunk passing up that dunk and passing it off. That's it yeah. I think his was more psychological than but i could be wrong. It's an interesting analogy rate. 'cause i gotta i hadn't thought of that plane years i by that point. I thought that even though that was a few years ago he he'd been put so much punishment. Flinch was actually. It was physical more than maybe psychological. It was like what is you know what is going to come. When you get in that position von miller should he was then right. Yeah and and and who. I don't remember who else was in the potential scrum coming at him but business cycle bending physical. I mean it's it's it's it's psychological. I mean there's no. I mean we're playing. You know you know psychology wanna one armchair quarterback you okay fine but you don't dunk the ball because you're worried about being filed by trae young then you you. You don't wanna be found. This is not even open for debate. You don't wanna be filed in that moment because you don't wanna have to go to the free throw line and so he's there's so many things there can be helped and could it work in philly. Yes i cannot work philadelphia. I'm not saying that. I'm saying i don't wish that recovery on him in philadelphia. I don't know you know what you know what that's like in that town. Of course especially since even if he does stay there and have a terrific regular season. All it takes is one moment like that. As i playoffs came in at all. It's all back to square one like right there on him. I don't wish it on doc. I just break. It can be a part of the way they're philadelphia. The sixers can get on with what you know what. They're trying to do with a championship. And ben simmons can get on with his career. I i just think that now we look for so many things to be. You know hotcakes and remedy through you. Know i i don't believe in it. I just think he needs a fresh start. Well i i appreciate the call. Michael like in terms of these playoffs. It's been so much fun to watch and seeing the fans back in the building has been terrific and my favorite my favorite shot of the playoffs. So far was caught by. I guess a fan in the stands in phoenix. Just taking the camera fans are going crazy to the right into the left. There's you and stephen egg. Think with stephen add like a cup of coffee or something like that or you had the coffee. And i know there's no cheering in the press box or anything. But you you you your jaws were just like hitting the. I love that job. That's now oh my gosh you know it just Denied is going to be so interesting. They're rich but that was you. Can't i mean. I was screaming stephen in the moments leading up to the play right before the imbalance during the interminable timeouts it came in there. What's right then made ninety seconds. Take thirty three minutes. I was screaming. Is stephen a. Eight and to the rim. It's eight remedy saying no. You could still gonna booker i. They'd be happy. Go to booker with a full two seconds left with eight and to the rim eight and of the rim screaming. It doesn't mean. I think it's going to actually work and win the game. Just what you sitting there drawn up. You're talking like we'd like you. And i are of could've been you and me on a tech on your home right and i and i'm screaming eight to the rim and it's just so shocking to have it happen in that building in that way and that noise in that way it wasn't a west coast building in that moment. I mean people can act if they want like the buildings down loud at the. They don't madison square garden in boston. Philly chicago detroit. Sound the same as la in phoenix. They don't they sound exponentially louder and more desperate and more frantic and they're not cheers screwing buildings and that's phoenix sounded in the absence of championship. Playoff basketball where. Show the shot right there. We just showed the shot right there still so did you. At least before. I let you go to. Julie's turn stephen and go. I told you did you give them an e we we immediately went on the air rich and on overall with got van pelt. I run no. I guess we were on The la sportscenter. I was staying and steven a. Said we'll buy screaming in my ear. Almost deaf now eight and to the rim which i i i did i got right but i love the rest of it is like oh my goodness what else can happen. That's why i'm saying rich. Don't rule out drama tonight. I think there's something left in this alley fight of a series that we're gonna tomorrow be reacting to. I don't even know. I'm not gonna have a predictions tonight. I don't know. I just think more drama dalby tuned in tonight michael. Thanks time greatly appreciated. You always appreciate police. I'd cherish this. I really do. Thanks for the call. Michael you bet you too. That's michael wilpon. Everybody though real mike will on twitter he's must follow. Ought to talk about right there. Eight four four two zero four rich number dial we will take your phone calls and set up our third and final hour right here on the rich eisen show to be quite honest even just in the last few years the team that gets that presidents trophy. It's it's not a great thing. It really is not that great thing especially in the play. Offs is a streaky luck based system practically in terms of clicking at the right time hitting your peak at the right time because it is the stanley cup playoffs. They are grueling. have you colin. Hanks ever drank from the cup. I have on my gosh and it caused me about it. What did you may ask what you drank from the come I'm pretty sure it was like a molson ice or something. Some canadian brew are sure it had to be canadian. I know it was. It was absolutely incredible. I mean when your team finally wins the stanley cup and you've spent your entire life rooting for that team. And then it happens. We cry like you. The little kids you were phone you went to your first game. My wife took photos. of course. luckily they have been deleted. Deleted never made it tom. But then when you actually get a moment know to be able to see the stanley cup in person and then you know one of the players goes to drink out of it. I mean it's it's just. You're getting now childhood. You're not allowed to have it. You're not a lotta tippett yourself though right. Tips at for Andrzej cope. its nose. well andrzej did. I drank from it a few times. If i'm being on a few different water skiing. Dustin penner was the first time. Dustin dustin penner was copa and then copied the second time. When you're the cup. Their rules very serious. Are rules very serious rules in the only one. You can't hoisted either right unless you've wanted or act as i understand it. You know people say you can't hoisted it over your head and shoulders unless you're a player but that's obviously not true because the equipment managers head coaches short. A lot of them do that. So i think it's an organizational type role you have to have some role within that organization to be able to do it but probably not gonna let jim from accounting. Do that guy sounds like office space. Yeah jim just You know did you get the memo so again for mere mortals no hoisting no tipping but drinking is absolutely good. And you did that. Did colin hanks going to join us next hour. Telling us some tales of the ninety three cup between the kings and the canadian and how the canadian are back in the stanley cup. Final for the first time since then have a curse apparently over the entire country of canada. That's coming up on the rich eisen. Show eight four four two zero four rich number. Dial right here on. Nbc sports on peacock. Golden is an indepth. Look at the country's top gymnasts. it's a peacock original golden. Go behind the scenes. With the athletes. As they compete for four spots on team usa's olympic roster the docu series golden streaming. Right now right here. On peacock peacock t dot com get started. And you see us every day as well. The journey of usa's elite gymnasts golden peacock original. Let's go back to the phone. Lines michael in detroit. You're here on the rich eisen show. What's up sir. how are you. i'm doing good. Oh you're talking like early when i when you were talking about how. Nba reviews take about thirty minutes to get one car wreck. So i don't know if it's just me. But when i'm at home and they showed that replay and i look i say oh it's out of bounds or oh that's a foul. Why don't the nba hire someone for game. That's all to do that. Someone every time review happens instead of the rest on the four reviewing it. They put on the headset. If somebody says yep that was the file. Here's the clock not the minute process because they already doing in the end we back to the well. I mean they they do have. There is central officiating. That's who they're talking to on the headsets they're going back and forth and that's you know what what what the. Nfl does now for certain. They're they're not reviewing the film with somebody with the nfl front office. They are sometimes going over Adjudicating down distance and time clock and whatever that they are getting some assistance from central new. Nfl on that It's just they're trying but there there is somebody that's back there and there is somebody. That's that buzzes. The referees they were stopping play to take a look at it in the final two minutes. I just don't know why they did. Not maybe they looked at it and thought that it wasn't off of pain. It was off a tomb but to me. Thank you for the call. It's the same damn thing that they stopped the game for in game. Two with patrick beverley in booker and that took forever and i think the nba might have seen that and say that's one thing we're not doing anymore because they could literally stop the game almost on every possession you know you could literally stop the game on every possession because because you could say for every drive to the basket there is a possible right now and if you can stop to see was there an actual foul on the play if you can reverse a block and turn it into a charge. Which is how devon booker booker plaster day. That's how devon booker got you know out disqualify then you could literally stop on every single down like if the nfl. You could back in the day except for the one Year if you could stop and call a foul through replay. You could do that. Every single play in the final two minutes of football by just imagine if the last ninety seconds of the nba. Game thirty minutes. Imagine the last two minutes of the superbowl along outtake and we came on the air and said that it's it was a it was awful. That took thirty three minutes to pull the last ninety seconds and i think the nba heard that and they might've basically said we're not that that we're not doing it. And i think the only thing i could think of is why would they not have stopped the game to look at something that was almost a carbon copy of what we saw. The two games previous clippers get screwed twice. The i screwed because he could make a damn shop the number times that they could have taken the lead in that fourth quarter granted. We couldn't hit. I can't believe are never lead in that game. The number of times that they brought the ball up having an opportunity take the lead and then did not it was it was ridiculous. Yeah But we we lose the one game we get the thirty minute review which gives them a chance to set up this value so we lose and in this other. Play that you talk about the. Don't look when the balls off of a phoenix player. They don't check that so we ended up losing the game. Because of that so is. I just don't think it's time i don't know i mean then i didn't dispute what what Michael wilbon hard to say about how. Tough the clippers are they are. They are tough there. The deepest clipper team. That we've we've ever seen here are tough. Yeah i mean i i. I've lived here eighteen years. I've never seen a team. Looked like this. A clipper team in on that when they had the big three. The question was who is coming off the bench. You know and and and you know canard makes plays. There's a bunch of guys who make plays for this team other problem is we. Just you know he. He mentioned how loud it is in phoenix covers. Just can't get a true home court advantage like if you watch these games and you listen to the crowd at some point i forget. Who's the home team when they're at staples. Because as chris. We talked about last week. You have lakers fans who go to the game blue route again. That clip house like wish. That is i. Don't like the lakers. But you know who doesn't live in my head the lakers. Oh i hope you lose boom. I'm done but i've got friends. Who are laker fans have gone or instagram stories. And now all of a sudden you're a suns fan and then they it is psychotic. It's redick it is psychotic. That's the only. It's a sport psychosis and i say that fully copying to the fact that i'm a yankee fan and i've been water skiing and behind a lot of yachts and i can't stand the mets. You'd never know. I know that. But i make the world series. I'm not like suddenly becoming a diehard royals family. A that's crazy as a yankee fan. Suddenly i'm rooting for the royals. And that's nuts. that's nuts. You know. Nick chiro colin hanks coming up our three. I do wanna hit that a little bit more because bill plaschke's did write a column near los angeles times quoted a whole bunch of laker fans who sounded like total complete lunatics. Like i would not want if there was one laker fan towards zanu was like. What's what's it against the you know. I'm fine with the clippers winning you know. I don't root for them. But it is still los angeles. The rest of them were just lunatics total complete lunatics producers in this town other people in this town i guess plash he knew and had you know. And obviously you can write an article in any endeavor. Sports obviously politics these days where you can get as many crazy fringe people as you want and paint an entire community with a broad. Brush through these people's quotes. I understand that. But i wouldn't have wanted to be any of those laker in that in that column. It sounded ridiculous asana completely and again i. I was a yankee fan in college. In the eighty six world series when it was the mets and the red sox and each play. I wanted something horrible to happen for both. Unfortunately only one team could have something horrible happen to them. Each time But that was just me as a yankee fan going through a stretch where we didn't we hadn't won. We won like since one thousand nine hundred seventy eight and we didn't make the world series and eighty despite having a great team in an eighty one. We made it in the strike shortened year and and loss to the dodgers and then it was a dark period. You know the only bright light was tomorrow. Second our guest in donald arthur mattingley and so i was kind of beginning to sense that things weren't going the yankees way and it was really getting me upset but these laker fan you one last year. You have generation talented players coming out of your ears literally every other year like what is your mouth function. They want the clippers. Just stay losers forever. But how do you look at a team like this team. Like reggie jackson stepping up the way that he's stepping up. How do you not look at that. How do you not look at somebody. Like reggie jackson in this town in los angeles. That's the name of the town across your chest. The laundry that you're rooting for to use the phrase that seinfeld says and the way that he's playing out of his skull like you have a problem with him like you take him in a purple and in a heartbeat. he'd rather have him than coups. Mma probably i mean you probably have a couple of these players in the clippers. Yeah i mean if you if you are a lover of the sport of basketball you've got to respect what the clippers are doing not like getting a ticket to openly root against them in there on the court that's insanity right insanity sanity word. Is your malfunction. And i get a yankee fan. Who can't stand the mets okay. Colin hanks nick two zero coming up our three.

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"Yeah. Pardon the interruption, but I'm Mike will bond pointer is a campy here because he's getting up big a war, and you get a big price to fill in Frank fading half. Michael wilpon, bigger Lord, snuff, that in on these, forget the very clever. Anybody could win an EMMY. Oh, what's one of New York Cami, did you New York's the media market media capital of the world? So they got the sports capital of the world will do well to the PT, I Tony is using his induction into the national sports media hall of fame, Mr. BIC shot as an excuse to play golf does. So, I am joined by our great friend from the athletic break, guys. So. Enough. We begin today with the US women beating Spain two one World Cup play on a pair of penalty kicks. No less than expert than SI's grant wall called it, quote, a soft penalty in the US is favor, close quote that decided the game so after not the American women advanced to Friday's quarterfinal match against hosts France, which is number four in the world behind the US, Germany and England Frank how confident or not to the US team after today's performance. I think you have to be a little concern. Megan repeat. Oh two goals in the game both on penalty kicks. So no goals in the run a play. They went into the second half of the first time in the tourmament without a lead. And I thought their backline that goal that they gave up, you know, the goalkeeper listen Nair, and also Becky Sauerbrun, they bed communication on a on a pass, which led to a goal at this level, you cannot do that. You do that. You will lose a big tournament. Now you're gonna get Fran. Chance in Paris. So these partisan US crowds that we've seen at their matches. Not gonna change on Friday. Yeah. I'm excited about that enough recap. I mean although I'm looking at the penalties and I'm wondering really I mean actually the second one the second one but okay. So they win that game two one. Now we go to the game in France against France and repeat. No. I mean she would I thought is a great attitude about it saying after today's game. Let's go. Yeah. It's going to be a circus. Let let's have it. I mean that's everybody's looking forward to and I would agree with this is the match of the tournament, so far and probably the one that could be the most memorable before we get to the final. That's what's hard to believe it's going to happen early. You know, for the US you play Thailand, you play Chile those teams that they're not in the same league the US then when they played Sweden both teams that are to advance. So the first tough match at the US played was in Spain. Spain was very physical and the US struggle to adjust to that. And the back line. Me that was always going to be the issue going into the tournament. Now the outside backs one goal Frank Iowa. Is that mistake happen? More than once it can't have multiple times of the game. But now the pressure's gonna go when you playing France. The hardest thing to do is went on the road. Now, you're trying to win in Paris. All right with NBA free agency set to begin this weekend. The New York Times is reporting that the Brooklyn nets are considering signing Andre Jordan, because he's friends with Kevin Durant. It's worth noting that the Nixon wired from Dallas at the trade deadline with the same idea in mind, Michael, do you think the net signing Jordan will entice Durant to come to Brooklyn, so Kevin Durant is going to make a decision, which is going to affect the rest of his life, including starting with fifty sixty million dollar difference. He's gone, he's going to decide on where de'andre Jordan is like you can't just reach cell phone and say, hey, yo de'andre was up. I mean reports are so they anger me. Because this is not reporting anymore. This is Justice is simply guessing playing some go. He's friends with him. So he might go there and connecting dots. That shouldn't be connected at all. We don't know what Kevin Durant to do the only bigger wildcards. Kevin Durant is littered. We don't know what they're gonna do. A nobody wants to say this to me means nothing in the Chicago White Sox to the same thing with Manny Machado. Lauren's family other in law, and he go twenty two hundred miles from Chicago, the Knicks in the off season. They hired Royal Ivey, who was a player in Oklahoma City when Kevin Durant was there, so that you tach now the Andre Jorde Kevin Durant. I doubt is going to make a decision like that based on a role player. Now, Kyrie Irving that couldn't ties him and we've heard for a while that may be the to avert a met, I had heard that they were going to go on vacation together after the season that change once Kevin Durant got hurt, but I'm not buying I think, by everyone right now is trying to figure out a way and link the teams with the players. But I will say this Brooklyn appears to be more in play today than Madison Square Garden. How you tell me how this, I would ask anybody sitting and share you were Tony New York guys is doesn't shock you. And do you think it will hold up that Brooklyn has stepped I head of the neck? Well, here's what I had heard in the church attraction that Kyrie Irving wants to live in New York, but he was a little concerned about Nick. Ownership manager. How about Andrea dollar today on CNBC? We'll probably watch watch your stocks, and he said he said, no one's nobody's going Ari. How about that? Do you think he must have some? No back the ranch. Trolling everybody who wants to connect the dots. Everybody in our business wants to big scoop. This is not new. We wanted it when we were being actual reporters once upon a time. But Frank come on about by the way, New York, usually doesn't get anybody. And I think it would was talking about the Knicks more than all of, including absolutely, by the way, he also said Klay Thompson backed by February. Klay thompson. Look with, with the marvels of technology now in rehabilitation he wants me back a hope he is. Yeah. We have more reading of the tea leaves down in Houston regarding the rockets. Chris Paul told the Houston chronicle quote, I'll be in Houston. I'm happy about that. I'm very happy about that. I'm good. I never asked for a train close quote, Frank. I'm going to ask you to play a little fortune, teller look ahead until me by Christmas, whether CPA three will be happy about playing in Houston. You might get maybe we'll get Houston Lakers on Christmas day. I think it'd be happy for this reason because I think a lot of the overreaction to the Houston Rockets happened after they lost to the wars before they knew what the injury was to Kevin Durant before Klay. Thompson got her. So why not the Houston Rockets, the last two years, they've been knocked out by the Golden State Warriors hardened conceal play MVP level. I get Chris Paul. Sometimes could be difficult to get along with same thing happen with the clip. That's happening with the rockets. But I think when you take a step back and realize they had you can make the case for the rockets as much as any team right now in the Western Conference to get to the NBA totally agree with you. And so will be happy, you know, it doesn't matter if he's happy Christmas. Can he be happy by the middle of June, and he's got as good a shot at that as anybody in the league. Now, the Golden State is going to be in. It's red shirt year and even Klay. Thompson comes back by February. We're not expecting Durant Anton back at full strength in two thousand eighteen and a half formed by then. So this Houston Rockets, they better make themselves happy that little realize the tune had gotten front of them to at least get to the NBA finals. And I know that the Lakers are going to be improved in Utah, and Denver are going to be improved. But don't you think that the rockets right now we had to fill out a projection of the top six teams in the west? We both not have rockets one, of course, while they're in enforced, that's hard and carry them, by the way tonight, the NBA awards hardly. Probably finished second voting for the way that he played over the season. Here's my thing about Chris Paul. Once you sign that contract, you could demand asked to be traded that contract is almost untradable at this point here, but you're stuck with the rockets were kind of, I'm not maybe one of his representatives said, if it doesn't happen, but I'm. The thing I'm gonna take as we're for everybody talks about him being tough to play with at times. Remember how that was set about is Ahah Thomas for year. All he did was to championships and get close to other times. I just think that guy's when they're six feet tall. Have that. Stature, everybody's good informant as a certain demeanor, they've had to have since they were on the playground when they were ten or twelve years old. I think Chris Paul fits into that category. And if not for some untimely injuries, his resume might look a whole lot different. Right. And the rockets are not trading. James harden, both aren't gonna leave there, the marry together. Yes. So get used alone. All right. So why Leonard will officially opt out of his contract, making him the biggest free agent on the market there reports that he will meet with the clippers Mavs and Knicks and co is also considering, of course resigning with Toronto. Michael you've covered the league forever. Do you think the NBA would be more excited if choline stayed in Canada or left? I don't think I don't think that league officials much. Care. But I will say this because part of it, you get the conflict of, yes, you've got this incredible phantom in the north in for our bosses and the other TV executives the executives at Turner ratings, don't count. So you have this preposterous thing that goes on this dynamic, which nobody should care about in terms of rating. It doesn't mean the eyeballs aren't there. The eyeballs are there from Nova Scotia to British Columbia. They're, they're what's it about a national team, nobody nobody else in the NBA qualifies as that. And I'm saying this knowing that my dear friend of many years. Glenn Doc, Rivers, if he's poaching Hawaii, Leonard the LA clippers may even move ahead of the Lakers. Yeah. Not just in the west. But in that building in terms of who is going to be closer to winning NBA championship, or at least getting the Western Conference finals, but man Toronto, Frank, we just saw this. I know we just saw it's a national team Hockey League the unhappy about that, and Adam silver, and. Cya Jiri are very close. They are. And he loves what happened in Toronto this year, the league looks at self as an international league. And I think for the next couple of years if Cohen we've heard this during the NBA finals, maybe he would sign a one plus one or a two, plus one if it keeps them in Toronto for two more years, you look at these conference they could rule east. They end up back in NBA finals once over the next two years, they could possibly win one. I wonder if y is thinking that as well, eventually, I believe that he's going to the clippers he knows I'm necessarily now maybe not now but I think eventually, by the way to billboards out. I noticed what the Kawai license sag, we, we said, we so can, we are trying to figure out what, what things would I like more just as a basketball fanatic, and they both have their attractions, but there is something I guess, you grew up in the cold light. I did. There's something about a big time free agent and may be now the best two way player in the game say on the stay right here. I got everything I could. Can have how about the fact that he hasn't left the city yet. He's been there showing up at blue Jay games. I heard Ronald in the some of the grapevine July. Second. He's meeting with the clippers market down guy. Doc Rivers where suit than. You're not I hope doctors washes show today the confines of Wrigley field. Weren't so friendly yesterday afternoon to a news reporter who was cursed and threatened by Mets manager. Mickey Callaway and relief pitcher Justin Vargas. The club is fine both men for their roles which various mitts officials have called disappointing intolerable regrettable. The issue that got the mid so riled is merely basic post game baseball one. Oh one. Why did you leave that guy into the home run the losses? The game Frank Mets are nine games out four under. Is this the excused? They're going to use the fire Callaway while they haven't yet. And I think it'll be something that they'll add onto it. You know, the way it works in New York. The two baseball teams get covered like nobody's business and talk radio. They'll break down every single move. The manager makes Micky Calloway's moves have been questioned for a couple years right now. And he's used to the bullpen is disaster. Now when he was after he was done with his press conference. Addresses walking out the reporter said, see you tomorrow. Mickey Callaway blows up then bargain is staring the reporter down just one writing some walks toward him. Totally add a line. So the Mets fine both of them. They find the pitcher bargain defied Calloway as well. The Mets right now are complete disaster in New York. You got the jets you've got the Knicks. And right now, let's go back, even the Yankees didn't the Yankees. Just try to throw the daily news out of that was the Knicks and the Knicks got Knicks. The Knicks got five fifty thousand dollars and not allowing the daily news into the press conference to introduce RJ Barrett. And yet, it's the end. Workers think everybody who's three of their career obligation want to go to New York all the time to make a living. Really, here's what I would do if I were the Mets. And I think there's a chance that it could happen. I understand he used to manage the aunties, but one of your guys from northwestern Joe Girardi is out there, Joe Girardi at times is contentious relationship with the media with the Enke's, but he knows how to handle the New York media and the next day he gets over it. You move on. That's what makes the Mets being in disarray as they left Wrigley that, that puts a smile guys beat the split the series, which is a loss for the Comey's as far as I'm concerned. Let's take a break coming up design really promise to stay in the moorlands and should the Padres tail for Endo junior to take it a little easier or they say reminded kitties, New York. They don't want any media. That's what drives up all their salad. Also two losing teams that something to do is interaction is brought to you by Gatorade thirst. Quenchers. Proven sports. Veal. Male time people when we take questions from our valued viewers twenty would never say that let's get personal going to read it to you Frank Sola. Did you read science comments over the weekend as a promise to stay in knowledge? The backstory here is he was at a charity, then in New Orleans and said he had an pithy while he was in his hotel room. He said, it's one of these gut feelings that I had that this is right. He said, this is my home. I'm ready to stay here. So does that mean I'm ready to stay here forever, or for at least the length of my rookie contract doesn't mean even through November howled again is I on Williamson nineteen. Yep. Do you remember nineteen? You just had a son who's nineteen. All right. Nineteen and I couldn't be sure of anything at nineteen or twenty nine and with these guys know you know, it's not a promise, people stop reading it as a promise people to get their expectations of wet. How about kyri who said to an a. Up people. This is simply a guarantee I'm staying. And then he did a commercial where he said, I'd like to have my number retired up there as well. I think a couple of things number ones. Ion is a great kid is. And he said he wants to say the right things, but after the draft lottery, the story came out, he's looked happy. That was ridiculous. He doesn't want to be in New Orleans where I think we don't like telling I'll on camera. This is where I wanna be this. Let me tell people for Zion shut up. Why people are morons and your expectations are out of whack. People. Ready? If you're managing the Padres, would you tell an Endo Teti junior to never do this again? This is tags up after a pop slot infield fly with the infield fly rule. He just thinks it's going to kiss sticking basement napping. And he does two steps. Apparently the mid and this slide is great. I want to do this every game this Nuttal. Stupid phony two hundred eighteen foot home runs and Yankee Stadium. The right field or what make baseball exciting and guys like t's junior. And havi lobby bias those guys make baseball exciting Frank with plays like this. And the plague reviewed and it he was so at a time now where we question guys for standing watching balls at hit off the wall, and they should be on second. They're sending burst. We're not going to tell a young player like this not to hustle hustle. Don't be daring old. One of my favorite players of all time. Mookie Wilson how many times he scored from second base on a six four three double play with none out. Out as they're completing the double play. Here comes Mukhi start at second sports. Why would you tell a guy like I would just take away from guy because you know why? Because there are bunch of people on the numbers geeks bandwagon about launch angle. And as if that is exciting, another home run tape measure job. I what tagging on measure. Old pretty good, bold last one. We all sidetrack that you wanna talk about. Junior and havi bias some more will you return to the big east make it relevant again by it. You mean Yukon? You mean the big. Yeah. I think it'll help both that Villanova did win two years ago. And we know the big east is a basketball conference always football. Let's face it over wires, if I'm the big east, and if I'm Yukon, you need to be together because how are you recruiting kids from the New York area to play in the American athletic conference and we're going to go play to lane all division in basketball. We know this having covered the big east for years, I agree with you. It'll help make them more relevant. But you still don't have Syracuse Siracusa left. He's still don't have BC. You still don't have some of the guts of that of that conference, when I look, I was there for all of the glare years and football got in the way they all thought they were football schools, and you're not the boss. Not even Syracuse, which has a football history. It is a basketball school, will this alone uconn going back, make it relevant. It'll make it better. I'm not sure realm, telling you, I'm Danny Hurley it helped, and if I'm chino REM it helps as well. You or him it may help him as much as this program. No offense. 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REShow: Michael Wilbon and Christine Pearce. Hour 3 (06-06-19)

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REShow: Michael Wilbon and Christine Pearce. Hour 3 (06-06-19)

"Thank you for listening to this podcast. One sports net. Production available on apple podcasts and podcast. One. Hey, it's shaggy now that the NBA also, we can is over. It's time for the second half of the season to get underway. It's a tight battle in both the western and eastern conferences, as teams vying for playoff position that I've been saying for months, there's only one place again on all the action, then online dot AG sign up today for a free account and use the promo code podcast. One. And when you make your first deposit you'll receive a fifty percent bonus that's promo code podcast. One NBA savings heating up. Don't miss out on all the fund better line dot AG online sportsbook experts experts experts. You rolled guests yard tools of met their match right now. The Home Depot has Father's Day savings on the ego, fifty-six volt, cordless trimmer, and blower combo kit. Just two hundred forty nine bucks. It has the performance of gas without the hassle. It's too powerful tools powered by fifty six volt lithium ion battery platform and right now it's at a price. No one can match today is the day for doing with the ego, trimmer, and lower combo just to forty nine only at the Home Depot. More saving, more doing while supplies last. Hour number three of the rich Eisen show is on the air. We had a great chat last hour with AJ Hinch the manager of the Houston Astros. We've got Christie Pearce rampant of box sports and two-time World Cup champion and three time Olympic gold medalist getting set to talk about the women's World Cup that starts in France on Friday team USA's and play until Tuesday. But we will start our coverage of it today and joining us here, though, at the top of hour number three is one of my favorite people. One of my favorite guests from pardon the interruption, which one yet another EMMY for best studio show. Daily calling in from Oakland, California where the warriors are all banged up and the raptors are halfway to a world championship. Michael wilbon. How're you doing Michael, rich and fine? How're you doing? I'm hanging in there. What are, what are your thoughts? What goes through your mind? After what you witnessed last night, Michael. Well, I think it's really compelling Siri now. Now. And I think that, you know, injuries often you sort of end the story, you know, they people are taking out for a series or season or long enough period that you just the stories diminished. This story is not diminished in hand. I think, and we were going to see Klay Thompson tomorrow. That's pretty much given I don't know about Kevin Durant. He's hoping to get cleared this morning to have a practice today. And then he wants to play tomorrow. Now, whether he will play or not don't know yet, but he wants to play tomorrow. Specifically to be back out there. And so you got the chance to one whole being trust, you know, by this team that has a unique appeal but unique internet global appeal and it's pretty resistible now this series with the warriors, having a sort of get off the mat invite their way back to, to defend their title. Yeah. So you think it is compelling even though you know, let's just say Durant, or clay clay will come back to rent doesn't. I'm going to prepare myself for the asterisk championship with FRA Toronto that they fought a team that wasn't at full strength. And that's the reason why they wanted all Michael I'm kind of prepared by. I mean, we didn't say that the maybe some people did Cleveland's championship in two thousand sixteen with an asterisk because Draymond green couldn't play game five in Oakland after being suspended. I mean, you know, I don't know that people remember but you have Cleveland lost without Kyrie Irving, and Kevin law and a championship series of golden, they, we're not calling that dancers series. So I I just think that as you go on people are given credit for winning championships. They earn it and, you know, played Thompson, it'll be there, and this gold has eighteen was whole with those three guys Thompson curry Draymond green. Steve Kerr coaching them, they were whole when they won the first championship, and they didn't have Kevin Durant to do that. So Kevin Durant apps it that's part of it. I mean that's just part of, you know, part of of championship sports. Look at what happens with what are we going to decide about the blues and Bruins char campaign because it is broken. Faith. So that's, that's just part of part of championship sports that have to be except. Well, so then I asked this question, not to stir anything up, or it's infused with the language that, that implies something, I am legitimately curious. Why is Durant watching these games from the locker room? Do you know why? A guy with a leg injury should be watching. So, in other words, a guy with a tap strange. It'd be hopping up and down or vulnerable to people fly into benches, which we see every day, we see that with bands. So Kevin Durant should be up and down on a strained calf. I, I would have I would have banned Klay Thompson from the bench. Quin Thomson the pulled hamstring. What's he doing on the bench? There's just. You know, I love me rich, but that sentiment that you aren't the only one express editor spread out, but it's like it's dumb. Why would a person with an injured leg? You're trying to get back in the lineup on a court to defend a championship. Why would those guys and they're injured legs be sitting on a bitch? And makes no sense. And that's why some teams have had the who in the past that if you if you're not dressed to play, you cannot be on the bench. Why would you do that, that people bodies flying all suppose Kevin Durant last night, pops up to cheer on Steph curry epi to three on his strained calf. That I, I don't get even the, the notion, he better not be out there. Kevin Durant had wandered out there. I find him his job is to get back on the court not to be cheering on people from the bench. No. I, I was just curious. It really was a curiosity factor. The only ones had flying the things to everybody. It would okay? I get it now that the answer to that curiosity. And it's pretty definitive I mean you talked to, and you've done this, all your career you talked to trainers, and -sition they talk about the they have specially as God these these workouts in rehabilitation sessions there. So you know details about what athletes can or cannot do should, or should not do we're doing this for four hours and then you're gonna be off of this with elevated. Well, you know what? It's not a hospital bed on the sideline. And so it's not a football sideline where people have thirty yards to stand at the back of that would just be completely insane for Kevin demand to be on that bench by globe on of ESPN here on the rich Eisen show. And in terms of players flying into the first row and someone from the warriors being involved. It happened last night. Mark Stevens a venture capitalist who is a part owner of the team. Shove Kyle Lowry as Lowry had the apparent temerity to play hard and leap into the first row. When is the next time, do you think we should see Mark Stevens? The team is told everyone that he is not reappearing for the NBA finals. What do you think Michael? My goodness. Rich you or your credible? When I went to bed last night. I don't think we knew we haven't been totally identity of this person, even though you know, the solid clip didn't notice it in real time. So the clip. I mean unbelievable. It's unbelievable for anybody to be that dumb. And yet for somebody who's a part, owner of professional guy who makes millions of dollars a year. I'm sure at least millions. Wow. That's incredible. Well, I mean, in this case, if the if the warriors don't do it and say you're out of here indefinitely, and I'm not sure I mean definitely does it mean to series. And he's back for game one in the new building. It's got to be more severe than that. Don't you think it's a worry? Don't do it in the world is our team is seems to take that sort of thing. They understand optic, if you will so rich to me, the league would have to get. Involved at the warriors, don't make the stiff enough. I mean maybe it's a full season. I don't own it or not, what these what does he possibly doing. I don't know if he's issued a statement by now but now that this guy has been outed. I mean, how much do the warriors have to sort of distance themselves from this Indian while the warriors have an given a statement and I'll read it to you real quick since you're on the phone here, saying Mr Stevens behavior last night, did not reflect the high standards that we hope to exemplifies an organization. We're extremely disappointed in his actions. And along with Mr Stevens offer our sincere apology to Kyle our in the Toronto Raptors organization for this unfortunate misconduct. There's no place for such interaction between fans or anyone and players in an NBA game. Mr Stevens will not be in attendance in any of the remaining games of the twenty nine thousand nine finals. And then review of this matter will be ongoing. Lebron is since chimed in on if you're aware over the last couple of lowest last hour on Instagram and on Twitter saying that this is not enough. And just and just imagine if karnal Lowery had reacted in shoved the fan back that everyone would be howling for him to be suspended for the rest of the series. I, I don't think there's any question about that rich. I, I would call the behavior nothing searching, but responsible and again, and they get by saying were suspending him indefinitely and the investigation is ongoing. Is it basically allows the warriors to take the temperature of the room and see what's going to be tolerated? And what will not be. And I gotta go away for longer than that. You think the NBA came to see the series, you think the NBA would shove the, the seats back Michael, I mean just a no just a wee bit here. No. No. Why? I mean, because one on to one irresponsible moron, does this was somebody in Utah. No. I mean. No. And they shouldn't the intimacy the relationship between the fans an NBA game. And the players is a great part of the passion of basketball people. Pay not just pay money to go see to get these seats but the interaction is great. I mean, the the the, the literal, verbal interaction of sparring that goes on. It's fine to me like is hollering over drink. It's like shut up drink. That's part of the same inspite leaf and Reggie Miller giving each other the chosen that was parked that, that is part of the entertainment that, that makes the that set the NBA apart you'll need a moat and it's not, you know, it isn't the NFL is not the same thing, the, the fan experience in the NBA and the faces that we see there. The yes, the famous faces we often see that's party possible of professional basketball worldwide. So no, they don't need to move any fan base back things the move this guy out. I will bound here on the rich Eisen show few few minutes left. So suss out for me. We've seen the games you've seen it. You've been traveling all this time. How do you think this plays out your best guess Michael wilbon, how this plays out on L health? Like last night, I thought it was very simple. Warriors can still win that game. And probably will if quaint Thompson played tonight with what I was saying going in it on doesn't play tonight. He didn't did the raptors where we're going to win that game had to win that game their path to championship had to include winning last night's game. He was a deal with which the raptors completely copped to after the game. I thought that was big of them. They said, look, the team is missing this guy, we're not gonna act like that doesn't matter. It does. So once again, I think I think the warriors win game five I'm sorry game. Four tomorrow. And I think this is even I mean Klay Thompson comes back. I don't know about Durant. I have my doubts. But I think they win game four. And then if Iran's play tomorrow on that and just played the rust off a little bit, I still think the warriors, I am seen with the warriors did against Houston without Durant. I'm I'm just I'm done doubting, discounting, the warriors. But I, I wouldn't go with the words, but let me just say Klay Thompson his hobbling Durant. Doesn't come back, then I teach run a winning. So it's entirely to me. I'm not gonna Vegas without that knowledge. You know, I gotta have some sense of and it's interesting that the, the Vegas line and all this stuff that have to worry. You're still favorite clearly. Those makers are counting Durant, and at least Thompson back in, so that's why I say risks that irresistible that you've got all these gifts and you've got you know some big stars. You got you know, Leonard is a guy who's going to have such intrigue. Just wait. I mean for the next two weeks. We're gonna talk about. We. Only where he's going, right. I wanted to can stay in Toronto. I think that's a very real possibility and he's not automatically, you know, lay. So I think all of that just gives us a texture and depth. That is pretty cool. You agree with Charles Barkley's supposition that Durant skin is not thick enough for New York City, did you hear that? I mean I know mine, wouldn't be. And I you know, I know Kevin reasonably. Well, I don't think that it is. Now he likes to engage. She does he, he went to engage in all forms of social media and mainstream media, and maybe he just says, I don't care I take it on. But rich, I mean, we both those a lot of professional athletes, or people professionally who think they can take on New York in an all day and sometimes very quickly. I don't I don't want this and I, I, I think that Kevin Martin is nearly made up. I think if there's all these reports about where you. Going and what he's doing are completely out of left field. But I don't think he knows that. He's a thinker. He's never guy who's just gonna make up his mind while he's playing for Golden State right without investigation as to what he's going to do in a couple of weeks of one of the bigger decisions life. So I don't see his high being thick enough for New York. And I just wonder you know what's wrong with staying with the team that you would wanted, perhaps a third championship with at a place you seem to love to live was wrong with staying there. And if he goes more powerful, I'm with your before I let you go. I'd be remiss if I did not ask you about your, your, your check with the forty fourth president of the United States, that I saw Toronto, Barack Obama, what was that? Like michael? Well, I think it's sort of known that, that Mr. Kornheiser not playing golf Tony more than me take off with forty four. And so there's you know there's a there, there has been a friendship there for a while. And I knew him before he was president United States. Remember, we're talking about a couple of south side, Chicago guy so that that goes back a while. So it's not new. It was so funny though, I guess there were people who have audio heard the audio actors not said only said you're ducking me, when, you know, when is going to resume he was, of course, talking doll, and it was pretty funny people like, oh my God. You ducking friendly. No. Well, yeah. On the golf course because he's playing every day. And I'm covering basketball. So you see all of my pocket rich. You gotta avoid that. And so he he and Tony, you know the leisure set they get to play a little more than those of us on the road with the NBA playoffs for nine weeks. I like it. You're working harder, is what you're saying. And that's your golf game suffers. Why would you put yourself in that situation? Thank you for that. My absolute my absolute pleasure to do all that. Michael, thanks for calling man. Thanks for having me. You knew. I appreciate it. Always thank you. Michael wilpon host, pardon the interruption calling in from Oakland, California, the one and only Mike wilbon a. It's the president the United States. I'm just glad by the way that he was there and nobody's shoe fell apart because then we would start blaming him. Yes, I was the last game that we saw that he would be the through the through line is I on shoe. And then if it happened to somebody else, I'm just Glenn. Everybody shoo stayed intact with him advance in tended to the basketball game, by the way you did here. You did hear him mentions. Dana Charles, jaw he was in the morning skate. Looks like he's gonna play with a broken jaw tonight in that pivotal position. All right. Let's let's, let's we'll discuss that on the back end. And by the way, he said, you can't create a moat around the court oracle moat is the name who could all know it's the name of the Alba of flash pants. The band that may start playing during the middle of our chat. That's coming up right now, Kristie, okay? Just want to let you know that. So if you start hearing some sort of cover of what do you think it would might be eighties cover? Motley Crue or employs in. I'd go more hall, and Oates would be hopefully more. That's more Yanni by nature. Okay. So, so. There's a band out on the thoroughfare. I don't know what they're having right here at our K games, Christie Pearce rampant is here to talk about the upcoming women's World Cup. If you start hearing eighties cover songs, I can't tell you that it's just from the just the band, is called flash pants, and the, the called oracle moat. I think, but we will talk women's World Cup with a two-time World Cup champion Christie Pearce rampant. When we come back here on the rich Eisen show, okay? This is the thirty second commercial and I'm going to throw a lot of numbers at you, but please stay with me. And just fifteen minutes you could say fifteen percent or more on car insurance. 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For more information joining me here part of the FOX coverage of the twenty nine thousand nine hundred women's World Cup is somebody who's one two of them participated in five of them in finals appearances a former captain of the US women's national soccer team. Welcome to the rich Eisen show Christie Pearce rampant. How are you get? How are you? Right. What is it like to step on the field representing this country in such an event like this? What does it feel like crazy amazing? You know, it's the journey to get there. And then when she make that final roster, and you're on that stage, the big stage, you know, there's a lot of pressure all the countries of they're competing for the same thing winning that World Cup. It's unbelievable but you have to game by game. That's I think the biggest pitcher of making sure don't look too far ahead. Sure in that's the part of the process of winning World Cup just looking around I match. Right. National anthem plan. Not imagine. What feeling must of course the fans you get the chills? You know you're playing for your country. You know, you think about all those all the prep work leading into it. And you kind of just listened to that national anthem digest it. And then that whistle blows. It's game on. So now let's talk about the, the prospects for the women's national team this time around ranked first, obviously in fie rankings, but a totally different team, even though they are. I guess technic-. Kley longer in the tooth, and most of them out there, every age of twenty eight I just set the table to send things off to you. And what you think of the chances for the team this year. I think they tend to. There are very good. You know, we're coming into this World Cup ready and prepared I think we'll be peaking at the right time. We're very deep in the attacking side of the game. I think we are little lacking in depth in the defensive side as a unit. But I think overall you're going to see the US scoring a lot of goals in this World Cup, very different than two thousand fifteen which was solid defensive unit less goals being scored. But I think with our attack with Alex Morgan, Meghan routine. Oh, Tobin heath. Their chemistry up top is going to be something special to watch, obviously leadership of people like yourself Abby Wambach not there who does fill that void gonna see Meghan repeal and Alex Morgan. I think stepping up in those difficult moments because the game of soccer ninety minutes, there are moments where you're going to lapse, and you just matters how you're gonna get out of it, you know. And I think the players will look to those two. To really help them get through it as well as cry Lloyd coming on by late in games. Well, the, the tournament starts with the host French team taking on the career Republic. That'll be on Friday tomorrow. Three eastern on f s one first match for the United States women's national team is against Thailand live on FOX at three in the afternoon eastern time on Tuesdays and that is that a good thing that it takes that the first matches later in the first round, I think they can. I think they can take kind of see the game the tournament, you know from watching it from afar. Getting used to being in France, the environment, the distractions, I think, you know, playing against Thailand, which is a lesser opponent. So they should be able to start getting the nerves out, you know, especially with a lot of younger players on the team in the midfield. So I think it would be good for them to go from Thailand and then to Chile and then Sweden who will be their, their best opponent in the group stage. We know about Sweden obviously, this is the side that knocked team USA out of the real Olympics in two thousand sixteen. We all know what choice words. Hope solo had back done. What, what do you think is there is this a rivalry game? Do you think get a little bit and playing Sweden a lot in group stage? Right. Definitely fix the first time. So I think it's a rival know old coach Pia soon Hogg, who was from Sweden as a very well. And I think in the Olympics, you know, there was a lot of mind games per se. I think in that in that game she's no longer the coach but Sweden definitely always comes after to beat. The US you know, I think they've heard about the US for so long that everybody's gone in for the US. Let's be honest, but Sweden has something I think extra in their motivation to beat the US, but hearing about all the time. So that'll be a difficult game. But it's group stage, you know the top two teams advance in each group. So you'll see the US move on. And now be determining factor of who they'll meet in the round of sixteen and then onto the quarters. Who's the one in the round of the round of sixteen that lurks right now, if you look over the steering wheel ROY, I think, you know, coming up against a Spain, or Canada or Netherlands are teams that we could meet in the round of sixteen all very technical teams. Spain is very organized tough to break down defensively. They have a great attack. So it's going to be each game is going to be kind of a different game plan heading into from the round of sixteen on two-time World Cup champion three time Olympic gold medalist with Fox Sports for this World Cup Christie Pearce rampant here on the rich Eisen show. Give me the name of somebody young. Player from team USA that we might be talking about a little bit more one week from today, two weeks from today midfield, you're gonna see Lindsay her ran in Roosevelt and their first World Cups, you know, breaking barriers. I think you're going to see them have exceptional games their experience in the fact they've, they've played in high level games, but they just haven't been in a World Cup. So I would see them be breakout players in this World Cup. And what would you say if you were on this squad to the younger players, what advice, would you give just relax? Enjoy the moment, you know, take it minute by minute. And don't look past each game because they the goal is to win the World Cup. And I think if you get too anxious to stress about getting to that final you lose your momentum throughout the game. So it's just, you know limit the distractions focus on the team in the locker room. Keep the locker room going going well and confident and just take a game by game distractions. You mean like hanging in France for a week. End or for a month. Between distractions of like social media media as well as like family and friends. That's probably the hardest thing is making time for those people that are coming over to support you, but also realize that you have to like just your legs and the job. Yeah. It's like you can enjoy France later. I guess I'm saying there's no, I would imagine downtime here downtime because you're prepping once you finish that game you're prepping onto the next game and, you know, resting travelling recovering and preparing for the next opponent or let's, let's stop be so nationalistic for quick, second here else. Elsewhere outside of these United States. Gimme a group of desert group of death. The so called group of death in this in this draw is a group of death death. I think there's you pretty much can look across the board and see the top two coming out of each group. It'll be that third. There's four third-place teams that will advance but you always have to look at Germany. France England is making a run a Young Australia team that's doing very well. It doesn't matter who you meet up with, and, you know, where the US will fall into place reaching the quarters and on a you were. Here watching in our green room in the at the end of the last hour of Christie Pearce rampant here on the rich Eisen show and you watched the three of us draw idea are adopted nation states. Yes. Out of our deadwood hat you have named two of the sides that we plucked out a hat. Unfortunately, Mike del to five yet to hear Christie talk about Nigeria much sorry, my, so if you don't mind which could make a run. Okay. We'll say they're very athletic. They're fast. Okay. So to forward on like Mike so far. That's okay. And he's gonna have to score more than they give up. Yeah. Very, very athletic. So, you know, younger team come into their own longer. Team though, Mike. That'd be ornament up who who is giant. To get out of group stage. So we'll see you're saying there's a chance a chance as a possibility. What about England England's going to do? Well, they've got a coach Phil novel. He's played at the highest level. He's got these girls confident ready. So you can you got a good one. Okay. For good things to how you already talked about Spain having fun to watch. Yes. Okay. But but team USA is standing in the way team say is in the way just if I wasn't going to choose team USA out of the hat. And I hopefully wasn't gonna just choose somebody who just look at me go, unfortunately, that'll be a quick one. I just didn't want somebody that was going to be right in the way of team USA out of Spain. Possibly and around sixteen. My gosh, be never know. I know the actor Timothy elephant shows Canada, he chose wisely. It candidates. Very good. They've okay the coming along. They have Sinclair, who. Has four goals away from beating Abby Wambach record? She's someone I played against for many years. They're good leader. So they have a good leadership on on Canada. Who's the best competitor over played with with abbey? Hands down. Stutter. Abby. Just what was that show? Just because she has this mentality that no one else brings the game like she loves the pressure. She's able to finish and be composed in the box, and that is a sign of good athletes. Specially good forward just is mindful of others, but she's just the triple threat. She's, you know, he's so good in the air. She's a great leader. She can finish you know, their feet or head. She's just someone you want on your team. One of those players teammates that you didn't want to let down with your bus needed to raise your I was so much fun playing with being in the back being able to scream up to her on the four line, as well as her screaming back to me, like we had such a connection on the field, and new, just signs because you can't really hear self talking it oral Cup. It's so loud, so you have to just be aware of body language, and that's what she brought. Like she just brought so much energy in the energy is contagious. You know, especially in moments when people are fearful of the unknown. Of making mistakes abuse, right there to secure them. Well leaders don't you stop? Leading once they stopped playing and she has been leading the charge if you will alongside with the women's national team that sued the US soccer federation for equal pay, and the women's national team has generated more money and had more success than their male counterparts for team USA. Why do you think there's disparity in pay? Do you think Christie you think it's just the lack of resources and the awareness to, you know put forward for the women's team? You know, we've been very successful. We just haven't really gotten the support from US soccer there. They've been very helpful. But now it's it's time for them to just recognize the success of the team and respect that and don't want. Don't I think it was just more so on the fact that they don't I don't we were winning that kind of pushes aside. I think they expectation was always to win to be top three and we always were there. So I guess they just. I felt like they didn't really have to focus on us. And now it's time that we have been successful. The numbers are there. The ticket sales have been proven now. They just have to put a little bit more time into promoting the team back in ninety nine we pretty much promoted ourselves. And look what the final was. It was like ninety thousand and that was all all on just the commitment of the players of doing radio doing sneak attacks doing clinics doing camps everything that we could do to produce like an tournament like that. And who's a stay now in two thousand nineteen soccer promotes the, the girls like they should the tickets, you know, people will come the sponsors will come and you're already seeing it through this World Cup, how many sponsors are backing this women's team. And now we just need a little bit extra from your soccer. And I think the women have kind of backed off from it now and they, they need to really focus on preparing a winning this World Cup. And, you know, we'll probably hear about it more after short, you know, remote. No, we're playing. Yeah. The, the old appearance now distraction while you think men the men. Side has not been as successful in the World Cup. As clearly, the women have been just so many different sports in an America, that men are choosing between the NFL, NBA NHL, you know, there's so many other sports out there and soccer was kind of the back burner was like it was last. But now I think education in America for soccer and seeing it on TV and MLS doing much better from the start. I think you're starting to see more people turn to soccer. Well I mean we have a couple of, of teams here in Los Angeles, as well. I mean just here in alone, I just know having coached, a while ESO and having all three of my kids go through youth soccer as well. I mean they they can't get enough of it. They do. It's a good starting something. I think we're still behind plus years as apparent running around. I mean I, I'd look, I love baseball more than life itself. And I love watching my kids play it. But when they're not swinging a bat there literally are standing field. To love that. They're running around there it, it's great for later in the day for when they're tired, but it's also great it the exercise. The is amazing figuring literal solving being on a team sport. You know, leadership roles. There's so much that comes to accountability within soccer. So it's a great. I love it, and my daughter, my daughter should now five I'll tell you the story Christie's when she was, like three my wife got her in a soccer clinic with a whole bunch of other kids who are like twenty five kids out there and the person running the clinic, I think it was at the end of his role, a little bit when twenty five little ones out there, and he starts screaming dined space, everybody spate, yet because everyone's right around the bulbs, this line space. So my daughter at age three looks at the little boy, next door and just shoved him over. And I'm like, yes, that girl she's some space. As they say, finding it make your own space. She's ready. I think she's running. She's definitely ready to watch the women's World Cup on FOX f one and f s to with you. I look forward to the to the coverage. Thanks for coming on here. Of course. Thanks, god. It Christie Pearce ramp own thing, she gives you the, the leg up there. Chris with England. Let's go, then I got Spain. If I can somehow void team USA, and the Nigeria, good luck to you, sir. We're good luck to you. All right. We'll wrap up the show and set up our Friday show in a second. And by the way, I do believe as has the wife of the warriors owner that got the shoulder from beyond say, been interviewed as to what she was saying to Jay z last night. Yes. Ramona Shelburne town, Nicole getting to the bottom of this. That's next on the rich Eisen show. Coming soon to podcast, one, the podcast with Rick Fox jas hall, and Todd ROY, log to see the world behind the east sports you love. And find out what good game really means from the trio, who's taken the business by storm, including the three time NBA champion behind team, echo FOX. Download new episodes of the G g podcast every week on apple podcasts and podcasts one. Stay tuned for sixty seconds of eight me news headlines, right after this podcast. Get them. Go in yard. One is Jack p left centerfield there bled. Amir go. Railroad junior doubts his, his presence to the bombers with a three run over the bottom of the eighth and the Blue Jays lead at night to seven. Yeah. We and that breaks up the Yankees remarkable streak of winning consecutive series at nine the last time the Yankees at one nine consecutive series was their nineteen ninety eight season when they went one hundred and twenty five and fifty after winning the World Series flag. Guerrero junior hitting went off of y call the Manchurian reliever. Eight that guy donate sacra. I don't hate anybody. Zach Britton was acquired last year from the Orioles and he really wasn't very effective and it was up the ankles resigned them Yankees resigned. But that was a very big night for him in the blue Jay say, take the series for the series sweep on the Yankees later on today. So by the way, the Blue Jays drafted ROY halladay son yesterday. That's pretty cool, and the thirty second round and the Yankees drafted allied, her son. Oh, wow. That's awesome. Yeah. Yeah. So keep an eye on all of that, as they matriculate their way through those systems. It's brought to you all by Capital One, which is reimagined banking by offering savings and checking accounts of no fees, or minimums, and one of the nation's best savings rates in America approval is required. Capital on NA member FDIC, Capital One. What's in your wallet and wanna let you know this season finale of game of zones is up our be ours? Original advocated series game of thrones game of zones. Pardon me watch the season finale of that on Biard on the? Are app game of zones? It's really funny. It's really well done in the season finale for you to go take in people can't leave well enough alone. Right. I mean, we were having fun with it earlier today. It's gotten out beyond Santa gave the brush off to a lady that was to her left talking to Jay's. We had fun with it earlier today. It's the owner's wife of the, the warriors. Nicole, Nicole Curren? Yeah. While Nicole Curran, lak-, and Joe Lakers, wife, Ramona Shelburne reached out to her. I guess she they've met throughout the years of her covering the warriors. And according to her, the wife of the worries owner, Joe lacob talk to her about last night would be on say. She was in tears said, she's been getting death threats on social media all night this morning. She disabled our Instagram account just to make it stop. What the hell's the matter with people current she had no idea anything was even a missing until she got home and started seeing text from friends and checked her social media, she's invited. Jay z and Beyonce into the game three to four times a form. We were insane. Maybe they. Yeah. That's that last night. She asked if they want to drink beyond say asked for water. Karn says JC as for vodka soda, she has to wanted line with that, but it was loud, and oracle, she couldn't hear. So she leaned over. That's the photos of beyond say, looking scancen her came from. We didn't I didn't think that she thought that the woman was untoward. I just thought like again, it was one of those things that I, I know in an airport and airplane wants base card said that she went to go get the drinks. There was no hostility was trying to be a good hostess. I'd never been experienced cyberbullying like this. I can't believe our players go through the kids, go through this. What is the matter with people? Death threats Cratia out people. You get you look at it again in you. I'm I think I'm a pretty good lip reader. You wanna put that video at one more time. I've having looked at the video, one more time you could see. She's like what do you want with that? What do you want vodka? And she has what else would soda, you could see him say. Yeah. You're right. And she says you wanna lime? You could see that says what she is saying, but say move forward in time. Be on-site. They'd give her the show. I mean I, I would continue going down that road but it's not funny anymore. Now with PD people are just like giving a death threats because she's talking to Jay Z and beyond say, look, I mean, you're on Twitter, you see what happened Campbell p anybody in the sound of my voice at a death threat anywhere on inst- on Instagram or social media. I what is the matter with you? Stupid, just with flash pants playing behind me to takes takes that of that. What do they play? Now, Brian, I don't even know can roll before they can here on the microphone, right? It's that we we went through this last year and went through this. I truly mean went through it. Yes. By nature every year, I guess the, the, the landlords of our property. Decide to throw a, a benefit just a party for, for the tenants are there any other tenants other than AT and T here. Now, are there is there like another? Let's hear companies. So the building, we're showing right here this, this band, is called flash pants. They are all there's four of them like the Beatles. That's only. After that there's no comparison. Because the Beatles were never dressed like Richard Simmons in the eighties with short shorts like they're sweating to the oldies with bands and, and and and tank tops. They shouldn't be wearing and I've been told Don buoy. Mike awarding, is it true? They were on the gong show is that is that, that it's been confirmed. They were on the not the clearly the, the old version the version of the new version with Tommy Maitland. The host Tommy Maitland, the, the will Arnett or I love that show me me. I don't know if it's coming back when they have sixty eight reviews against. Against the machine they, they have sixty eight reviews on help. Oh, yeah. Also on five dollars. Choose me all five starters, Hughes me, excuse me, and, and I say this to our landlords, I understand where here at their, their pleasure. In a we actually, we're at the pleasure of eighteen what am I talking about trying to we're trying to do? We're trying to work here. I've seen it flash pants countless times at bars, and they are always a good time. Can I got them for my dad's sixtieth birthday, and it was the best show? That's great. That's great. But that dad sixtieth birthday wasn't while the rich Eisen show is going on is a group called the nerds rich that play in New Jersey. They make about fifteen twenty thousand and night to play since the eighties and they've been the dressed like nerds, and they still do it apparently because it's like do we know if they were gone done didn't do we know? We are unfamiliar, Oregon, but Isla Fisher was part of the, the judges who are they sang take on me and will Arnett and Courtney Cox all where the judges on the gong show. Take gone, I'm watching right now. Broccoli. I want to thank today's guests Christie Pearce ramp own. It was fun right there. 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The Sedano Show (HR 2)

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The Sedano Show (HR 2)

"ESPN LA. So we just heard from Magic Johnson. There, Kirk, there was a point. I jotted down notes as magic was talking. And the one question that got you or at least the response to the question that got you to go Hm was, when Michael wilpon asked him what would you do differently? And he said I'd hire my own people from the beginning. He's like Robin. I got put together, I inherited Luke. And then judge me, I know I did some things wrong, and that's fine to do things wrong, but judge me on my own stuff. Not stuff that I inherited. Yeah. I think that's the one thing that and I know this is for my career in the National Football League through eight years. I've known that when general managers, president of operations head coaches when they come into the league or when they come into a job, they want to hire their own guys. That's just what it was. I mean, if you don't believe me, take a look at the last, but what about a month ago the? NFL draft. Right. Arizona Cardinals cliff Kingsbury comes right? He didn't say, I'm going to work with the quarterback. Josh Rosen who's already here. I'm gonna hire my own guy. Right. I mean I wanna draft my own God. That's just part of business. That's why sports. Yes. And I think magic realized that oh, we can try to we can retain, Luke. Or we could do it this way. No. When you got the power as president of basketball, operations magic and you wanna do things your way you gotta do them your way like this is how it and if it falls on you and it doesn't work your way, I did it, my way when I'll swing it. I'm gonna go out there passive aggressive. Should I should? I not. And I think that's the biggest thing I said, well, because I think he realizes that from the beginning, he should have hired the guy who we wanted in place. Oh, I think she, especially a head coach. I think that now in the article that talks about how the Lakers had like a thirty seven percent turnovers, which is which is astronomical compared from hundred a year over the league. But yeah, look, I don't have an issue with that. Any regime and man, this again, this is not just a sport thing. Like, when you have new bosses, they gonna look around and they'd be like working can we trim fat? Where can we get better? You know if Bob and accounting, isn't the best account, but we can get Jim who's a better accountant. Then we're gonna get Jim that happens all the time. So that part of it. I'm not as it is what his face it. Here's the thing. We sat here at least I have and talked about how I didn't love the Lakers training staff. The last couple of years, the Lakers had way too many injuries. Those big Tom, we talked about this show in magic turns that stuff over, you can't get mad about that, too. You know what I'm saying? Like, I don't have an issue with the turnover turnover should be expected when there's a new person in charge turnover always happens, especially when you hire new people to handle certain things head coaches. I know that's where you see. New training, staff, new, medical staff, new travel staff everything everything tests to change. Right. Nobody's truly a holdover, and that's that's, that's the tough part because I, I see it all the time with my friends who are coaches, and they're like, man, we got new guy. I'll interview with him, but I know it's probably unlikely that I'll be able to be retained or stay on, because everybody is all about change, because they're trying to implement their culture, their philosophers. Now did you ever watch the show entourage? Allah onto right area. Right. Laura are Yari. That's a slightly cartoonish version of a guy who's unbelievably successful in REM annual who I've talked to Jeremy Piven about this. He told me that was his agent, so that's where he was able to pull the Spiratou for because he knew like how he was and yeah, like, I'm not saying that that's right. But what I'm saying is the magic clearly wasn't that. But what I'm saying is when you remember in that show. Oh he eventually started his own shop. Right. And he was doing things his way. Now you had partners to answer to in this that and the other and that kind of conflicted him at times. But when you have those scenarios where new people are in charge. They ha you have to expect feathers to be ruffled. Now, I'm not saying that it should be at HR situation. Right. And to Magic's point he said that he'd never got called in a room now in the story people are saying that, well, you know, it was if they felt like it was meaningless to go to HR because nothing would be done. Well that's your own fault. Because if you did feel like you were being wrong, you should. That's what the HR department is therefore. Okay. You should go there and it's nothing gets done. Then you have a bigger issue, you know on your hands. But so for people to say that they didn't want to go there, because they didn't feel like anything was, we'd be done because they didn't feel like magic how to positive work environment. And that's your fault that's on you. That I'm sorry, if I don't come across being more empathetic there, but I do feel like that's on. You've you don't go through the proper channels there. Well, sometimes you have to be like. Like for me, George, I love being coached, hard read, you I love being coached hard to make tell me where at where my week it. Where can I be better at and I can take it? I'm a big boy I even tell you know guys now. And if you want to be the best at your position, man. I'm gonna talk to the Oakland Raiders rookies next week. And that's one of the things I wanna tell them like, do if you want to be the best. Don't you gotta find a way to gravitate to your veterans. Go ask a coach because I'm telling you, if you think you're going to get it on your own is not gonna happen. Let's go happen. Let's get some reaction here from magic. We just heard from Johnny's in San dem- is what have Johnny. Yeah, going. Hey, bud. Hey, you know what? I really, really kind of fascinating if it's become political, it's like Donald Trump. He's a rich kinda spoiled guy. Magic seems to be a rich for guy. Come become a back on the air justify himself about what he did. And what his Kenny just me on more damage? If you wanted to leave leave later on right a book or something. But I think he's doing too much damage credit justify his I, I do think there was some irony, Johnny, in what he said that the Lakers needs to get out of the news, and you're also doing a national television show. I thought there's now granted he was booked to do this NBA finals preview and has the news drought. He had to do it, but I do think there's some funny irony there, but I listen, you got to defend yourself, we've talked we've said this, if you don't tell your story someone else will, and he's not gonna let that happen. You know whether you like it or not. I don't know how much that actually benefits the Lakers. But I agree with you on that, Johnny. But, you know that's, that's his. Motive and I don't I don't blame him necessarily for that Richard and victorville a man. How's it going, which I wanna make a statement? I don't want to ask you guys question regarding I something's bothering me about this whole thing with magic when a guy leaves the sport, there's they missed two things. One is the game. And the other is the attention. And I'm wondering if he was trying to, you know, get a little bit of attention by coming back to the Lakers. Now my question is, what do you mean by coming back to the Lakers? You're saying attention like when he went through the John OPN a spotlight with, with. Building in the team. Have you seen? Have you seen? Magic Johnson walk Staples. Gets audience. Like having his hands on it. But the question I wanna ask you could they have kept Julius Randle and the kid the left handed kit. Gansler us, I think. Yeah. Could they have kept those two players and still gotten LeBron James on the team? Well, they needed to find another way. They needed to Moscow, right? But they would have had their I mean there are other ways you could have done that you didn't have to attach the ends of the Russell necessarily to it. And if Julius Randle, only if he would have taken a similar deal that he took in New Orleans, which most people believe that, that wouldn't have happened here in L A, because the well was poisoned because the agent was also the agent for Russell. And also the agent for Paul George. So there are some things there that don't necessarily add up. I can continue the reaction here in a sec. If you didn't read the Baxter. Home story Baxter is going to be on with this at five. So we'll talk to him about maybe some stuff, they got left on the cutting room floor, potentially in this long story, though, it'd be hard to believe considering, how long the story was, but we'll talk to Baxter five so make sure you tune into that. But coming up next, again, I asked you, how you thought LeBron came off on this. I've got some of my own. Thoughts on how LeBron came off with this story today will do that a second. But I, I gotta tell you about my friends and Mercedes-Benz of Encino man, right before the holidays. I needed a new car. Lease was up data new Mercedes Benz at Mercedes Benz of Encino. An unbelievable experience. Man. They treated me like a VIP like a king. And I thought, well, you know, I'm doing the radio commercials. Of course, I'm gonna get treated like VIP, but no, no, no, no man. Everybody in the room. 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So we had Magic Johnson on television and we played it for you live and people are reacting to it. I thought the biggest takeaway was that, if that he basically denied the whole HR thing? I thought the other thing he talked about was if he had to do it over again, which was questioned Michael wilpon that he'd hire everyone for the beginning, he'd just start with a clean slate, which is kind of what Jeanie Buss should've done when magic stepped away absolutely. Or at least put someone in the room that. Has experienced like I'm not advocating for rob to lose his job at this point because he's he's got. But you needed someone to be side by side him that has more basketball experience. Correcting decisions saying, like we always say he's he doesn't have enough hours. Yeah. Right. All right. Exa-. Exactly. It's funny. I had this conversation with someone in the other day we were talking about flying because I like to. Yeah, I mean I travel a time, right? So I like aviation. And they asked me, would you ever want to be a pilot is don't have enough time because years would so many hours into it? But our you know, I don't have the time. And it's obviously ridiculously expensive to learn to fly a plane, but it would be something that if money and time we're an issue that I would love to do you know, like I would love to learn to fly an airplane, even a small plane or whatever. But, but it's that it's the hours. It's what? You know, they talk about in the what's the famous author who's got all these books. I, I mean, I've bought them myself. I'm trying to remember. His name is skates me right now. And of course I can't find the damn books in my ear ago. His what is the name of the author bladder mountain? Glad while. Yes, Malcolm Blad. Well, if Malcolm, glad it talks about the ten thousand hours right that you don't become really good at something until you've got ten thousand hours. It's called the book is called outliers. And he's right. Yeah. You don't Jim it Lee become masterful at something or really understand the craft until you've done that amount of time for the time. Right work. It's like that's, that's the only thing that magic saying I wish I could have done was start over. I rip it all apart, start from the foundation and its do it all over again. Anything is. I thought they got a mulligan in which genie bus could've came in and said, you know what magic didn't work. I thought we could have done it this way. But you know what? Rob, I want to hire a couple more people. I want to put some more people that I think have about his equal amount and. We had heard of that have been here before we had heard rumors of that, that, that was a possibility, and assured it happened because right now, rob is the guy who was leading. But then there's also the other things with the story too, though, you know, we we, we have now and you've been talking about it for a long time, and we've been trying to figure out who's the ghost owner. Well as Linda, Linda, right, abyss who that was in the story. That's in the store. We've known that. Now that wasn't new. But I think that it has a has a deeper conversation to it now. Right. You know what I mean? Because how much impact does she have, and then you have her informant, which is her husband, right? Who is which is why people didn't want him on his on their staff. Right. Which is why he's the advisor that can still keep his ear to the locker room. What's being said, how was the Brian feeling is what's going on? Why are we doing this? Why are we doing that? And even being at some of these meetings with Luke. Walden and saying, oh well Luke allowed him to be in the meeting. But all he's gonna do is grab the information and can go run upstairs and then Intel Linda right would tell what you know what they down there doing. Yeah. You know, carte told me he had car told me this what they know around Brian over he doing and you just knew. That's how the chain of command was working. And just like all that stuff has to stop. Yeah. Agreed. It just show. Lebron I feel like LeBron. And the article actually comes off the best because I mean, I guess it's your interpretation of it, right. Like if you believe that Rich Paul and maverick Carter, just an extension of LeBron. They don't act like their own people, which I believe they do they do. I don't believe that everything they do is, like LeBron is not like the villain in a movie, you know, like doctor evil or the villain and inspector gadget when you were a kid that you never actually, saw you saw his hand is claw hand and his. You know what I'm saying? Like he's not just directing, right? Like what's happening behind the scenes. Now I'm saying when it comes to his own career. I'm sure there's plenty of stuff that he is doing because that's what you do in a player agent relationship. But I do believe those guys act independently at times to also look at Mavericks, I'm assuming you don't need a masters to run LeBron's business, but he went to USC and got a masters on his own. Yeah. So I just love. I just think that if anything the Brun, even though in the story guys in the locker room felt like he was involved in the Anthony Davis thing, there isn't any real direct connection to it, though. Unless, again, you just believe that that rich pause doing his bidding. Yeah. But there's not a direct link to LeBron any of this. It seems like at least not to my memory after I read it all. Well, I go back to my playing career when I wanted something done, or two questions. And or if I need an answer from the organization, I gave the questions to my agent. My agent does all the work, right? My agent. So you believe that there is a lot of the stuff the bidding done by rich perhaps a loop? Okay. Absolutely. Your agent is the one who's going to audit because LeBron ever wants to be seen as the bad guy. Right. No. Any shouldn't t we'll never want to be. But if there's some things on his mind, hey rich, see what's going on with this coaching situation. Right. All right. Cool. Yeah. What, what, what do you want me to ask? Oh. Perfect. I'll call rob tomorrow. Hey, rob. But by the way, Rich Paul didn't love Luke allegedly, according to story go dating back to the contagious, Kolbow, pope stuff. Right. The way he handled that some of that stuff like the minutes and things he's contagious. Well, pope, which is rich. He represents can tape you popes when, when you represent you want the bus best for your client, and at the same time, that's how rich can have these conversations with rob with. You know, with magic at the time, it's hey look, I've got some concerns about how you're playing my client, or I got some concerns for the future of my client here with the organization. What changes can we make coming up next? There is a former player that has taken the Lakers, dysfunction and claimed it's at a level that is even inconceivable within the realm of sports, that it's so dysfunctional that it can't even be related to from a sports standpoint that he has taken the example to a different level. Different stratosphere will explain who. And what in three minutes so down show here on ESPN LA Kirk Morrison here? If you missed Baxter homes, choose me if you missed Magic Johnson. We'll have that for you in a little bit coming up in the six o'clock hour. We'll just it was really just eight minutes. It was like one segment, and we'll just kind of play with magic and Stephen and wilbon talked about. In the six o'clock hour Baxter homes. It's coming up next. So Mike, you need to text him now to make sure he's good to go. He needs a twenty minute heads up. He's busy guy today. He's been man and and a day. So I'm going to get to some of these calls here in a second. But people hold them on. And we do appreciate of course, you tuning in, you guys holding on chiming in interacting with us on social media on the phones, or whatever obviously each and every day. So thank you guys. Of course, we're doing that we will get to what's trending after Baxter. Normally it's at five but because Baxter can only do five o'clock we're going to talk to Baxter at five o'clock. So I mentioned earlier that the Lakers dysfunction by a former player current ES ESPN analyst has been taken to a different stratosphere that not even the confines of sports can be used as an example, Kirk Morrison Jay Williams. Says the Lakers are the Kardashians. The Lakers are the Kardashians of the NBA the best reality show on TV and a good friend gave me some advice about the Kardashians, no matter how bad you want to hook up with them. Don't do it. Do. Phil thing. In Jalen city. It starts from the top, it starts from the top, the first thing I read the article about Linda ramp is being the shadow owner the shadow owner for Jimmie bus like that gives you a lot of insight into what people think about Jeannie bus, and what people think about the ownership. And this whole thing is turned into a house of cards. I mean he's not wrong, right? Like even the most Laker STAN of Laker stands can't sit here and say that Linda Rambus should be having input on basketball decisions. Right. Like I just don't like my point into all of you is this on that stuff man. I don't need to get all emotional excited about this anymore. Just like it just is what it is. All right. Go ahead. But y'all just deserve better. You do you deserve better. You have had the crown jewel of this sport for so long. And by the way, I know run our tests was all Mason Ireland earlier. And he said, the same thing on the job about, you know, it's only been six years, and Jeannie. You don't really see real investment, and how it all turns itself around for a number of years, sometimes ten years, I used an example about if you invested ten grand Newburgh, I'll say, you got one hundred twenty five million or something like that. That's cool. But what makes you believe what you're seeing is Uber? You know what I'm saying? Like what seriously? That's a serious question. Like, what makes you believe that right now? Also, to the coronation analogies way more appropriate right now because it's a reality. So that just keeps on going every I mean I woke up this morning and you know I had a great holiday weekend and was hanging out having a great holiday weekend. You know, making sure we pay Omar to the, the, the soldiers who have fallen for our freedom and our rights, and I woke up this morning, and I got a text buddy of mine was a Laker fan, and he's like, man, you ain't gonna believe this. I'm like, oh, I didn't know what had happened. So I'm like, what are you talking about? He's met, you know, complaining about rob and I'm like, what are you talking about? Like, why, why are you complaining to me about rob at seven in the morning? Like I don't understand. And he's like he's like, did you read Baxter homes as article? I'm like I look on them like I will. Now it reminded me a lot of the Seth worker sham article about the patriots. Yes. It was very much because it was detail timelines. That's actually a great comparison because we always want timelines something like oh, I remember that now. Oh. Remember magic did say that at this. Could we forget, the past so much relive it in the now? But it also goes back to, to this does George one of the things I took away from article. Is this in the last six years likes to law three hundred what is it? Three fifty nine yeah. Them in the Knicks have lost the most amount of the most games in the NBA in six year stretch in six years. Yeah. Like the NBA was are we talking about? They lost more games than the Sacramento Kings. The sons sons, wizards pelicans. Just I mean, timber wolves monks even hawks like the last six years have been a nightmare. And so it's not a people hating against the Lakers. It's what you've shown that you deserve better. I agree with that, but then also to you've also put yourself in this situation. It's not because of some drastic injury that has changed their today. Are there the franchise? Events that have happened that have led to this, but it's all things that they've done to themselves you agree. It's not like, oh well, you know what's self inflicted wound the Greg Oden or something or Brandon, ROY, you showing like the, you know injuries two guys that up in Portland? You like man. They always had a good team in this happened work. Well, by the way, people, I mean, the Laker fan will go back to the Chris Paul trait, or the lack thereof of a Chris Paul trait that, that's what Chad changed the fortunes of the organization. Now, I don't know if I would necessarily dispute that goes, Chris Paul had crisp Alvin healthy during all this time. And it'd been a Laker or even just played the same way he played the last X amount of years up until this year where he was lit more limited than before. I mean I feel like the Lakers would have been playoff team. All this time is that fair to say. Yeah. I can I can see that in the way that they would have built around Chris, because he would have been the the I mean Mitch and Jim might solve a job. Yeah, they would've gave the key to right. Because when Kobe retired a room about that. Now. Lebron allegedly is I mean he's tight with Chris, so they're meeting all the time anyway. And chatting, there's a rumor out there that the Lakers, would consider, maybe making that deal for Chris Paul. If they strike out in free agency. That's a possibility. We know that this man, I'm just saying we know that, that's a possibility. Man. Do you wanna make the over that contract at this stage? I love Chris Paul. I am Chris Paul guy. Okay. I just don't know if that's something I would consider doing at this stage. I don't know if that's proven business e and I know it was just a rumor, but I'm just stating my opinion on it for now guys. I don't think the Lakers would do that. I don't believe so after they just wouldn't even give Lou the money that he wanted, you know, true they also probably view players and coaches in different lights though. You know what I mean kind of? But they told Lou. Hey, you're only really in other words, you only here for the brunt, right? Yeah. That three years. How how much more he's got left on that contract? Oh, is a lot. It's three more years. And then the next several years. Are like so do you tie that money up? No, the piece for LeBron. No, no, no, no, no Paul was in Beverly Hills has been holding on patiently Paul. What's up? Hey guys. No. I just wanted to call in because, you know, I, I hear magic character kinda getting attacked at the article and things and the HR stuff and just to kind of add is defense. I mean I've been serving in an very a fancy restaurant in Beverly Hills. Now for many years, I served a lot of celebrities. A lot of the most powerful people. A lot of the sports owners in them and everybody. Right. Magic included. And I'll tell you this man. I've noticed, you know, like, you know, when celebrities are in everybody wants to photo with them and stuff like that. A lot of celebrities kind of Flint, or you see a little hesitation Magic Johnson wouldn't hesitate. If my if the dishwasher wanted a photo with magic he wouldn't even hesitate he wouldn't even flinch eat. So natural it just being loved and wanting to be loved. I can't imagine a scenario like the one where they're describing where he would've treated employees the way he did. I know firsthand based off of the way he treats me when I serve his. Family and stuff like that. He's respectful. He's funny. He's meiling. He's a good guy. Even if something goes a little wrong with the dish, not even not even a little bit of tension at all. But so I just wanted to defend them on the air, you know, it's funny, Paul magic. I it's funny you say that I've had plenty of friends that have worked in as servers in the industry before. And they, they have told me that you can tell a lot about a person's real personality. The way they treat servers in a restaurant that Luke Intel that what that person treats the servers, like beneath them that, you know, that person is just a crappy person that, that, that is the I think that is the perfect scenario where you really learn about how people are as a person. Yeah. And he was even willing if I you know, he knows I'm a Laker fan, and I give him my two cents. And I was like, hey, you know, this player likes her team or you loved you growing up, and he was cool with it, you know, he would just talk a little bit back and forth, but he's always respectful. And like I said, man, I've served them all most of the people hate the warriors wearing town for the clippers series. I'm not gonna name which one but let's just say one of them would even take a photo with a with a very sweet party coordinator. She was like, he went take a bottle with me, and I was like, well, you know, I mean, you, you don't judge them on that they do. It was just the wrong moment or whatever, but my point is Magic Johnson. He will give his time is energy to anyone, and he doesn't care, if it's the dishwasher to read the restaurant or the owner of the Lakers. I mean, he treats everyone is much the same as he can't get respect human beings, for what they are, which are human beings. I'll, I'll defend magic forever, and I'm with you on that my interactions will magic you've always been good. I've told the story that it's summer league even though I completely disagree with everything. He said to Mark Jones and Chauncey Billips about the signings that you may like came up to me like he. Kind of grabbed that me as I was walking by like, what you're not going to come in and give me a hug. You know what I'm saying? Like say what's up these a positive dude? But that doesn't mean that you're not a killer in the boardroom you know what I'm saying because he was a killer on the floor. But when he played basketball like those there that, that is part of the deal, you know what I'm saying? Like there are different personalities for different situations. Ernie's in the Ernie. Hey, how you doing some Ernie? A you know, there's obviously a lot of layers, it is. And we keep peeling them back. You know you keep finding new things. But just kind of like with the last caller never had any personal interaction with magic. But if nothing else he seems to be pretty outright, and upfront in everything he does sometimes to our detriment, right? That's why we got fined five hundred thousand dollars or whatever it was for tampering. Goes he the talker. And he, he if he feels some way he's gonna let everybody know, no matter who you are no matter where it is. So it's not. I mean people were kind of getting on him about, like a why are you drumming this up now? It's killing the Lakers defending himself, but he's defending himself exact right? And he's doing it in, in a professional way. He's not. He's not, you know, he's not tearing down the entire establishment. He's talking about a couple of people in general and. And his interaction and how he feels about them. And I mean I feel like most of this really falls on genie. Even though you know, everyone likes her as a person that is a great point does fall on genie. There's a leadership vacuum, and it does fall on her. Greg is on the ten. What's up, Greg? Yeah. Hey, I just want to say real quickly. You know, I didn't want to respond to what the server and in Beverly Hills was saying, you know, how magic is a nice guy, and he's a good Tipper and you know who take pictures with you and all that stuff. But, you know, and then what you said about the fact that you can tell a lot about a person, you know, about holiday tweet servers. However, he's not working for Magic Johnson. Everyone that works for magic. Johnson has a lot different things to say about him his personality, type in the top of person that he is. So to me, and I've loved magic, you know, I've watched magic since he was at Michigan state. But to me, he seemed like to face guy. That's magic. Johnson is to me now. I don't know about to face. I would say, more like again, different personalities for different scenarios a killer in the boardroom and charismatic in public public. You know what I'm saying? Like I don't have people like that. Yeah. Because business is business, and you're a lot of people are cut throat in business. George, I'll tell you this quickly when I play football even still people saying, well we appreciate the call, Greg, by the way, shut up. I mean he's such a cool laid back, do that can mean you played middle linebacker in the NFL, and I was like, do I put that helmet on LEGO between those lines? You said the story you become a different person. I've watched videos of myself and I was like, I can't believe that that's the person I was and your love. And your shoes off your super mild-mannered. I'll just dump relaxed too. But on the field it's offset some things, and mom and asks me, you know, why did you get a penalty on that plastic 'cause I can't say I can't tell you what I say because you will look at me totally different. So I understand that there's always two different people that, that usually there's the boardroom guy. And there's also the guy who's, you know, the, the basketball player or the curious, Matt guy coming up next Baxter homes who wrote, this in-depth peace will join us next. We'll talk to him. I'm sure he saw Magic's reaction. We'll get his thoughts on that, and much more and see what got left on the cutting room floor, if there was anything, so we're back in four minutes with Backstrom sedan show here on ESPN LA, Kirk Morrison, our guest coast today. And we've spent a lot of time obviously talking about Baxter. Homes is story today. It's on the front page of ESPN dot com. I've tweeted a link out to just now you can find it at Sodano ESPN his Twitter page at Baxter, and we. I've spent a lot of time talking about it. Magic Johnson addressed it a little while ago on television on the NBA finals preview that got pushed back a few minutes to discuss Baxter story. And he is kind enough to join us here on ESPN LA Baxter, what was your takeaway from Magic Johnson's appearance in reference to your story? You don't want to think that, that came to mind was actually a comment it didn't make peace and it was from a staffer who is describing when the day that urban got assigned to his position. And it was that the Stanford felt like the building would have to burn down for magic to lose his job. And he was describing that, you know, how big Magic Johnson is the Lakers, Los Angeles, the NBA NBA history in Lakers history, and it permeated the feelings, route the organization from a lot of the staffers, I talked to just why would they ever speak out about him because he was Magic Johnson. And who were they? And so, I know that talked about how there were no HR complaints filed against. So many never set in HR office getting, you know, chewed out for any of his actions or as demeanor with people, but many of these, these people who, I'm told endured a lot of this told me that they never felt that even coming forward, Danny one including HR would do any good at all. So those are some of the things that came to mind when I was listening to his comments. Let me play devil's advocate a little bit on that. Isn't that kind of on them, though, for not reporting it? Any we got. I mean there have been a lot of stories in recent years about this function of workplaces toxic cultures. You know, things that are there's maybe a really dominant authority in some physician, and what employees have to go through in this kind of code of silence of people not doing anything. And we'd like to believe I think all of us in our in our best version of ourselves. We'd have the courage in those moments to step forward. It's easy to say that from far and imagine that we could. But when you're living day to day in those positions, you know, who knows how we'd feel you listen. Mckay spe- in Los Angeles. By the way Baxter, the one thing that I'm listening to from magic earlier today, and then reading your article, which took me a nice law. The buffalo eighty five minutes, by the way, the job well done by you. But the one thing is well, as at magic one to come in and kind of reset the Lakers culture. I don't understand it. I guess the front office culture. He's been running businesses the way that he. He's been doing it for the number of years. And so from the, the, the, the knowledge that you gained how much did he try to not really? Get rid of people, but do things his way in the front office. He tried to do away. I think this is m oh, no matter what. But I also think that the, the way that an NBA organization runs now is very different than when urban was last intimately involved in one certainly as a player even as a coach, and I would say, that's probably true to the common workplace in general things have changed a lot certainly over the decades. And I should probably over the last five or six years, especially with workplace conduct and employees being treated a certain way or how we even perceive mental health as a society. And some of the things that happened, there was a thing that would come back to my mind, a lot said magic kind of comes from some of the old school, and that if this were certain day and age. And maybe a different NBA a different kind of. Workplace environment, you know, time period, maybe things would be this way, but we're here in twenty nineteen and to try to lead, you know, to, and then it'd be NBA team back to contending status. There's a lot of things that you knew differently that maybe you didn't do twenty years ago in technology was the way was worth twenty two per Baxter homes joining us here, again, tremendous piece on the front page of ESPN dot com about the dysfunction within the Los Angeles Lakers reboot with Magic Johnson. Rob Pelinka and the like speaking of Pelinka, it feels like what you were what you were telling in the stories stuff that we've heard from magic from other people about just the distrust of rob Pelinka. How would you best characterize the way people in that organization feel about him? One particularly striking anecdote. Was that rob on occasions? Several occasions has said that a particular decision that they're gonna make that he's gonna make is really because of a player a certain player wants to be that way or certain Asian wants to be that way. And people in the organization, the distress for him as such that they will go, and they have gone to these individuals and said, hey, this conversation with rob ever actually take place that he did you say these things that he said, you said. So they're essentially fact, going back and trying to fact check, you know, conversations because they believe you deflecting blame ownership responsibility for these decisions. And the second thing I would say too, is, you know, with respect to his credibility in the way that affects things is the flow of information through any business, but especially in NBA franchise is really important with respect to making decisions on draft free agency trades person. Hirings whatnot. And if the person at the top of the basketball structure, a GM is somebody who people have serious credibility issues. And that's the guy that that information is flowing through it can really make a lot of things very difficult. So it's funny you say that because one of the I one of the stories you wrote about Pelinka and Walton is something I had heard from someone a source, basically close to Walton had told me the same story about the whole coaches meetings thing. Right. But the source added to me that Pelinka told Walton that he was doing it because Myers was doing it what you had in your story, but added that he had spoken to Myers, and that Myers told him confirmed to him what he was doing that he was doing that and that Luke had called Myers, but Myers, are you going to the coaches meetings and Myers told him? No man, I haven't spoken to Robyn months. So I hit heard the same story I was not able to confirm and some people that I spoke to actually. That they were unaware of any conversations between rob, and Bob directly regarding such thing, but neither here nor there. I mean, the, the central you know, crux of the story is that he's saying the bomb sits on in on meetings, and as you probably heard as I've as I've heard confirmed. Bob doesn't do that. Right. And so, again, that's kind of an example of deflecting blame and saying, well, I'm, I'm doing this because of this other reason, because of this other person, and people told me that, that's a that's a pattern with him. You know Baxter with my history in the NFL playing eight years when I hear draft war rooms, I get excited. All right. So this is a great part of the story, too. But unbelievable. But Baxter, I'm reading this piece and I'm thinking about in two thousand seventeen it was easy for the Lakers right in the draft. It was there were a number two. So it's easy. We're gonna pick Lonzo and they scored with Kyle Kuzma. They end up getting Josh hard and then it reading your piece in saying that in two thousand eighteen there was. Two different draft rooms, there's one with magic in rob, rob Pelinka. And then there's another war room with all of the different, you know, you know, player personnel player development college scouting guys. How did that come about Baxter in, in house that still being received by the guys who were I would call it the other room and not the main room her? So I have heard of it as we're kings will have maybe two room, set up in part because there's just too many people from the entire all basketball out. Scouting everything to sit in one room, but the rooms may be right next to each other. So it's not as if communications difficult. Whereas in this situation is this isn't a story until the rooms are down the hall from each other. So it's not as if you know, you can just literally open one door go across the hall, and they're the person is so yeah, I don't you know, that's this a why it occurs in the, you know, deter the, the current setup that it is. I'm not sure but people one of the things that they would talk about. And this goes for the entire. Our front office or sorry for the for entire culture, was that they felt like Pelinka and, and urban created a culture of time division of us versus them making unilateral decisions and this draft night, instance, where they, you know, everybody thought they were gonna take one guy with the top of the value board was available. And then they learned through the media, essentially that they're taking somebody else, and then rob says, it's impart because of decision untold that, you know, talking to a player on the team catches everybody off guard, and you're like this is just another example of unilateral decision making. So that's just, you know, people not being on the same page pulling in the same direction. What is the level of input that Joey and Jesse bus have when it comes to the way this organization's run? I know they handle specific aspects of it, and I feel like to their credit. They've done a really good job with within the constraints of what it is. They do. But what kind of input do they have at all? Even now. I'm so I'll be honest with you. I'm not exactly sure that the especially with everything that's happened over the last couple of months in his as things are shaking out what the dynamics are with, with their particular input. Obviously, you know there are members of the bus family. So that Bill that unique with them, one thing that I have thought about, and this is why that draft room situation. I thought this was maybe particularly infuriating for some of those people is that if you look over the past couple of years at some of the players, the team has drafted past few years, you know, they've had they've, they've had several guy that hit, you know, Dangelo Russell all sorts Paseo Thomas. Brian starting center, Julius Randle, Larry Nance both had career years, but some of these guys has ended up elsewhere. And so I can I can understand frustration part of the people do help scout. And gather information on prospects which is what Jesse enjoy. I believe one of their one of their tasks to do. And yet feeling as if they're kind of on an island and left out making. Asian making. It's like we're doing all this hard work. We're helping make good decisions. We're leading the right direction and then other things happen, and bad decisions or make. Baxter homes joining us here, again makes you check out the articles, just fantastic. It's on the front page of ESPN dot com. They're a couple more questions. I have for you. How out of the ordinary is, what Rich Paul has is doing. According to your story within the Lakers organization, because the before you answer that, what I would say as much like with magic if someone allows you to push the envelope. Most people are going to continue to push the envelope, but how out of the ordinary isn't where look agent who have superstars are typically given more leeway, the context here, I would say, is that because rather than her in one of the things that they did upon sending to their post was allowed more agents access, and then clutches known and a lot of circles. And I've heard this from people around the league is being aggressive in, in ways of thinking influence access, and power, and so people the organization started to feel this in outsize ways even, you know, unusual for them in certainly the Lakers have gone after plenty of superstars or been involved with superstars. Before ready for some people, there have been there on time, this noon, and usual, you know, I cited in the article about Rich Paul Ryan the team charter, which people have told me the, you know, unheard of even on an ever basis people saying they've never heard of such a thing, and then, you know, I, I also mentioned anecdote of all Casey p and then there's an anecdote involving, you know, Rich Paul sitting down or not sitting out but saying to Adam silver during lunch that he wants to oust or that Luke Walton is in the right person for the job. And so there was kind of a swirl of things that were happening which, you know, maybe culminated with or not culminated but it all plays into the dysfunction. The drama, the circus, that is the Lakers and it just it didn't make didn't make things any easier to put it mildly Baxter. Drake has a song, call God's plan. Right. Robs plan is what I'm calling the Lakers. Is it still? Rob's playing or is it something to where the division still kind of separates between? He. He and the other player personnel people. Or is it still just we've got LeBron we cater to LeBron. What does LeBron is LeBron still just the main plant, or do you kinda see a plan that rob s? I need the plan for the Lakers has to get superstars in whatever form or fashion, they can. And if they get somebody to summer, it's going to help make things a lot easier if they don't, then I don't know what's going to happen. You know, is a team that will enter into a very difficult Western Conference once again with LeBron who's, you know, one year older on the wrong side of thirty with a lot of mileage, I do think that there's a disconnect still with rob and various members of that organization. And that credit those credibility issues absolutely exists. You know, a lot of these problems go away, if they get a superstar lot him go away, if they start winning again. Those are two big ifs. And they're they know as we've seen from a team that has missed the playoffs for six years in a row. They're not going to be easily solved. Two quick ones for your on the way out. What is the sense of how LeBron is viewed within the organization from teammates to people who work within the organization? What is that sense? We'll I if you know, people recognize that he is a once in a lifetime, like generational talent. You know he's he's one of the greatest players ever played this game. I think there's a perception to among some people that he came here, not necessarily for basketball. It wasn't his top priority, but that they were other business interests. That were, you know, deeply important to him. And so it's like what is basketball? His his top priority. Now he transitioning into that other phase he just some questions that Stanford spoken to a reference. And there's also the feeling of, you know, which I think existed at some of his previous dumps about the influence of his agency, and if labontes complicit in that I know specifically the players within the organization so that LeBron was complicit in the failed. Anthony Davis trade talks and the and the, the kind of chemistry that sell apart around that time of the year, obviously, Anthony Davis, and the Bronner ripper by. The same agency and players within the organization saw at that way that one was, you know, the did he played a part in that. So it's, it's a it's a tricky dynamic. Yeah. I mean, nobody should never be perspective. Lebron's, great make no mistake. But there are other things that are to last one how much of the void or vacuum in regards to leadership is being put at the feet of GD bus from those within the organization. That's a good question. And I think her absences definitely felt with respect to, you know, not speaking in the wake of Ernst departure, not speaking in the wake of Luke Walton and the team, parting ways, not speaking in the wake of praying Bogle being hired, you know, she's been absent a lot, and I think in any work innovation, people are going to look to the top for leadership and pays at the top of this organization, which is one that's been characterized as being dysfunctional in disarray etcetera etcetera. And the stakes are incredibly high for them this summer and especially with the chatter about the influence of Linda Rambus, and Kurt Rambus any organization right now. I think that I don't think I'm speaking out of turn by saying, I do think people are looking for leadership right now and that, that means they're looking to Jamie bus and, you know, it'll be it'll be key for her moving forward to. Kind of define what kind of leadership, the team will be given everything that's gone through Baxter. Homes makes you check out the stories on the front page of ESPN dot com about the Lakers dynamics and dysfunction in their front office and within the organization. Hey brother, thank you for coming on and making time for us. Always appreciate it. Absolutely man. Thank you for having me. I appreciate it. You got it take their his Baxter homes. We're gonna let you guys react to that. We'll do trending at five thirty. What kind of push some things back? If you miss magic we'll have that at six o'clock, he spoke earlier on sportscenter. So we get a lot of stuff to tackle. We'll open up the phones you at eight seven seven seven ten ESPN to react next. Donna show back in three minutes.

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RE-AIR: The Rise Of The Suns Devin Booker

ESPN Daily

22:07 min | 4 months ago

RE-AIR: The Rise Of The Suns Devin Booker

"Hey guys it's pablo we ran this. I think fantastic. Show about the suns devon booker way back in february and we decided therese spin it today because of this run he's been on this year's nba play-offs devon booker has not only ended. The phoenix suns. Eleven year playoff drought. Also taken out the lakers lebron james and the denver nuggets and the mvp nikola yokich on the way to these western conference finals. Which are about to begin. He is basically doing everything that our friend michael wilpon said he would end this episode so enjoy and it is saturday. June nineteenth. This is espn. Mike it is an honor to have you on the pod. Thank you for being here man. Thanks for having me appreciate it. Mike wilpon is the co host of pardon the interruption and one of the most respected basketball voices in america. His latest cover story on devon booker is up now on. Espn dot com. So mike. i've got to begin here by noting that you are very unapologetically old school. Right like your rolodex. It's full of names. Like michael and urban and charles and yes. I also should note that you're also more. Skeptical of millennials. Like me more than anyone else i know. So how is it that you got legitimately excited to spend quality time with a guy who was born in october nineteen ninety-six like right on the cusp of z in devon booker. Well one of the first things. You'll notice if you see this piece whether it's the broadcast piece or the written piece you're going to notice that devon booker embraces the notion of old head Old soul old anything people referred to you. I'm not sure how you take people referred to you as old head and it's also all salt and a couple of times. My closest friends wouldn't agree. But now here i'd say this growing up up just been always around. Older people encounter forced to mature. There was a social event. Actually this summer during the pandemic and arizona. We have a mutual devon booker. And i was sitting outside at this person's house having a bite one afternoon and they're old people hanging around telling stories and then you're young people you know people. In their early twenties people. He had played basketball with other names of people would would recognize and devon was sitting with the old people and i said what is it no other chair to go over there with the young folks outta war. I don't want to hear that. I want to hear more stories. And he sat there through. All the stories and listened mostly participated some at right then. I just thought. I love this guy. The fact that he's like a sponge and he's an old head he has a classic cars. I'm talking about fifties and early sixties cars. Whoa sixty years old. Yeah that's right. He rebels in it. But it's natural force now like he's trying to get some wanna give him attention this he is and and i enjoy the hell out of that. Mike you've just described a person. Who was if i didn't know better trying to court michael wilpon classic cars storytime storytime with wilpon. But i do want to get to this interview session. You had with him november twenty twenty in arizona. You sit down with him for like forty minutes. Would you wanna know. What did you want to ask him about well. Because i spent a chunk of my life as you know in the greater phoenix area in scottsdale. I paid more attention to devon booker than most people but people outside of that region. They have no idea who devon booker is unless their college basketball lunatics and it can remember him plan twenty minutes a game one season for the university of kentucky. And so here's a guy who's average twenty seven points a year. Each of the last two seasons right yes. He's a player who has drawn. Comparisons with kobe bryant. And so. I just wanted to ask him. Who are you. do you realize people don't know you. And how do you feel about that. And that's with this thing. Sorta started so. I want to jump in the time machine with you. Mike and head back to devon booker's childhood because your reporting taught me a lot i didn't know about how he was shaped by his parents. Demographics mother is mexican. his father is black and his dad. Melvin booker played a couple years in the nba played many more overseas. How integral was devon's dad and his development as a player at a young age as dad's essential devon living with his mom and siblings in michigan. His dad is playing overseas and as he's winding down that career he's thinking about his son. He knows his son is playing. We takes the sun to his home in mississippi and he's working with definitely sees that that this kid is got a thirst for it not to mention a talent and so he decided you know what this life with his mom and siblings. Great in michigan. But if he's going to be a real baller hindi's have something a little more hardcore little tougher road to hold and that he quite frankly says mom and son. This is what i want to do. I'm going to take him to mississippi. I spent the first year just recruiting him. I was like a recruiter. He's at the florida michigan and try to convince him and his mom like the best. Move him to come to mississippi and it allowed me to work with him daily not just on his physical but his mental devon finished his freshman year of high school in michigan and then devon got. There can't be a bigger culture. Shock the going from this community in michigan to mississippi whereas devon says you know they were gonna try them they were going to come at him and he understood and he looked at it and he didn't resent it he just thought okay. This is good for me. Having father involved Has been through similar situations and every day. You're feeling that presence of would it takes to be a professional at a young age. I was blessed and fortunate for that situation. And tell me to grown at super rare mike. It's a crazy story and it continues at the university of kentucky because that cauldron in mississippi developer goes from there to uk in two thousand fourteen and that is a team that is absurdly stacked with nba talent. Carl towns there. Willie cauley stein. Is there trey lyles. Is there the harrison. Twins were there and they make a final four with devon booker essentially sixth man on this team what did devon say about his time at kentucky. Well you know he. He gets there. He wasn't planning on being a one and done guy he's playing. He played twenty minutes game and he was. I think he was the sixth man of the year as a freshman but people could see enough and scouts saw enough of devon booker to say. You're one and done pal. One and done is exactly what you are because you. You have the rarest commodity. Perhaps on that team other than okay. So karl anthony. Towns is essentially seven feet and we'll call stein is what six ten but devon booker has the greatest commodity in today's basketball. He can shoot booker with his third three here in the second half seems to be a gathered at the first water to goes down. He's going to make it a long night for funny. Thing is melvin. Booker was so certain. To devon was going to be a kentucky longer than one year. He wasn't planning on coming to his kids games as a freshman. And he's like i got i got. I got time. I'll get there get there next year the year after and all of a sudden people are telling. Melvin do where are you. Your kid is tremendous now. He averages ten points a game that season before he goes one and done along with a lot of those other teammates. We mentioned in the twenty fifteen nba draft and he gets chosen. Thirteen overall by the phoenix suns. A franchise you know. Well a franchise. Mike that had essentially become synonymous at this point with just being awful. How did devon booker handle being drafted into what was objectively a losing culture. Well it's funny. He says he knew nothing about arizona. Why would he when he gone from michigan's mississippi. Well it's just another but then this speaks again to the sort of old soul in him. He was he looks forward to it. He didn't read it and sort of embracing. What do i have here. Let me go out and explore a little bit. I think that maybe served as a little bit of a positive distraction. If you will. The team was terrible. I've been through many situations since i've been here and you know taking it all in and join in as a positive but at the same time i hate losing so that trumps everything they lose them more than you love winning. Yes yes for sure. But he didn't complain about it. And i think a big big big big part of his navigating that without bitterness or resentment or trade me or just whining which never did or does is being with his father because melvin then moved to arizona and they worked out. They still continue to sort of prep for this career and professional basketball. Which wasn't going to be one or two or three or five years. It's going to be with good health. Knock on wood for devon booker is going to be fifteen. Eighteen years that i think was a big part of his he calls it the grind and instead of looking at the big picture he looked at the smaller and the smaller one was get to be better and booker would continue to get better mike and became. I think most apparent during this game in two thousand sixteen against kobe bryant and the lakers which was kobe's last game in phoenix devon booker. Open that game with a koby. Move against kobe. Which seems bolt. Yeah he openly game up and he looked at it and you went to the fadeaway jump shot and he missed it. He was guarding me. I could feel the crowd you know. Get a little little lower than they usually were. So i wear right to his move right to. Kobe fade away. I missed it. And after the game he thought coping just verbally take him out planning booker to them he. He wished to move. First time you call it. Beat me oh my move man but it was. It was great to see covered. Said no no no. That's that's good he goes. I did the same thing against mj. He's absolutely great to see. Because i remember i used to. I did the same thing with jane's fantastic. He has the right attitude. Fundamentals are shamed so and now it's just about him figuring out exactly what his game is. Assigned appears shoes to devon booker. Once you said to the young one and the other shoe said be legendary. Kobe explained in detail in a conversation that night. What what he thought. It meant for devon booker to become legendary. He's at the devon booker. You're going to have to go through golden state or whether it's golden state of the bronx. La it's the same lesson right and coby said it's every single detail no shortcuts ever and so devon now has on. His wrist tattooed be legendary. Say the soul never goes and that's how it is for me. You know i got be legendary tight on arm. And that's something that code left me with you know in our in our final game against each other so exactly one year after that game against kobe. Mike devon booker plays the celtics and he has game of his life. The game of pretty much anyone's life with forty five points. Stick around and see what happens to forty nine. And they'll go to the line for fifty cents out a record. Sixty one points for devon footer avenue points for devon booker. Most boys in the league since kobe's eighty-one in two thousand six were you thinking back in two thousand seventeen when you were watching. Devon booker dropped seventy. I did not see that game live. It's one of those things where i'm at another game another nba game of people like hey devon booker's got sixty early in the fourth whatever it was like what how many active players have seventy point in the nba. Right now. None other than seven did devon booker here from kobe. After that specific seventy point game. Yeah he did. He texted him and it had kobe with know the arm. Flexing the muscles and that sticks with them to this day you can see what impact it has on him. That encouragement that feedback. That relationship sadly only lasted five years. But he's got some memories and he's got his head conversations private conversations that they had that certainly effective now coming up how devon booker's performance in the bubble got the attention of the entire league including chris paul So mike devons younger. Half sister maya she has a rare chromosomal. Disorder called micro. Deletion syndrome has special needs as a result of that. I know devon is incredibly close with maya how has his relationship with his sister impacted him as a human being as not just a player but person. Well you hear stories about people and other cities if they went on the road devon my very well spent time with special needs children and nobody knew about it because he wasn't looking for publicity probably shunned it and my has that effect on him. Sister maya what she means. She is not just a little sister. No she's not she's a spirit animal for me. She puts things in perspective for me. so good game or bad game you know whatever. It is good day bad day. Not about a bad game. Okay about not taking her to starbucks or not not plan her pool or something like that but taken every day as opportunity and you know saying what you can get out of it and a positive ways you know where she shows me. Daily devin seems incredibly grounded by that and connected to it and feels fortunate that he has that maya with his his relationship with other children of special needs is remarkable on the court in two thousand twenty. Mike devon booker was pretty remarkable in a different way. He made this huge impression in the nba bubble with the sun's going eight and they missed the playoffs in the bubble but for booker. Play that well in that setting. What did that do for his image and his reputation around the nba. Well that was the first bit of reputation he had around the nba. Outside of players and coaches people said it was a coming out party. But do you see it that way. I would say there was a party going on and more people got invited. Burger hit the glass. We got it for two and a. He is marvelous everything to couple of former players. Who are they watch a ton of. Nba live on the east coast. They don't necessarily see booker. He's not on prime time nationally. And all of a sudden the bubble going eight knowing booker he was great in all the games yes. He was legendary in that game against the clippers win. He somehow gets a shot over and past two of the. What six or seven best defensive players in the leak. While leonard and paul george to win it brooker on the drive goes up. There's shot he got an gave. Devon booker buzzer. Put up and push it in. And i remember i was sitting in my office here in washington watching all these afternoon public games and he hits the shot and i screamed out the fact that he just sort of went straight up with that perfect form on his jump. Shot over those two guys like you know what this is. The kind of thing that stays with a young player that drives him that drives his teammate. That gives everybody around him confidence in him. That is a different level and by the way. It certainly affected where. Chris paul thought. Walk them back to sports center breaking news from the nba adrian ascii senior. Nba insider with us. Woge half i. Paul is headed to phoenix suns. He'll go in a multi player deal from oklahoma city and now the sun's well. That's fascinating the idea that chris paul is basically scouting perspective teams. And he says that kid. That's the one. I want to work with because mike playing with chris. Paul historically speaking has not been easy like he. Is this leader. He is in some sense. A backseat driver if not the guy with hands squarely on the wheel. What did devon booker playing with. Chris paul and that power dynamic. Well i was with them before the trade as well pablo and he was on pins and needles hoping it would happen as he has said plan with chris for everybody because chris paul's tough chris paul's demanding but again devon booker looking at the small picture day to day. How do i give better. How do we get better. I think it helps immensely the money williams coach of the phoenix suns. Now was chris. Paul's coach early in his career. New orleans money williams told me that it seems like it's on the verge of a fight every practice and it's never on i mean it's never gonna get that far because they understand hit in. The playoffs is something. They're probably going to do. But then how do you advance most teams get in the playoffs. That happened to get there. Naked joan the door of the sweep. That's what happens in the nba. Booker does not want that. And to that. End he in. Chris paul and mikhail bridges and they probably have a little more tutoring and coaching up and foot. In the you know wear for eytan. that's my guest. Not anybody saying that. But he's a late bloomer. It all of a sudden you start. We're starting to see eight and do things now. He couldn't do a year ago. That comes from coaching playing with great great players. And it comes from from chris. Paul and that's what you need. The sun's last appears the playoffs. Two thousand and ten when they got to the conference finals and lost to kobe and the lakers pretty much on air ball. Put back by. Ron are test comes up. That's essentially the play that put the sun's out of the playoffs for eleven years. But i think they have the wherewithal. And i think they're going to get better because eight is getting better before your eyes bridge is getting better before your eyes. They got some pieces. What's at stake for devon booker. The rest of the way this season do you think everything. I mean how your career resume starts to round out how. Who are you going to attract because park. Can't play forever chris. Thirty five and he's played in the lead sixteen years but he can't play forever. So wherever book is going to be and this is presumed phoenix. Our players. going to look at him in these games this spring they going to say. Yeah i wanna play with him. I wanna play with. Are they going to see a maturing evolving version of what. Kobe saw five years ago. Does he have it. Can you maintain it. Can he be the guy. Chris paul who puts a foot in. Somebody's rear end in practice or at the end of a big game this phase. Pablo this sport is about the star player of team. One guy the franchise player one do and that guy is devon booker. That's the guy that the phoenix suns have invested in. And so we now pay attention now. We pay attention to devon booker nationally for the first time the irreplaceable michael. Wilbon thank you for making some time for the kids. Let's tony gets too much of your time as it is pablo so i gotta be and have some your time as well matt. I'm pablo torre and this has been. Espn daily. i'll talk to you tomorrow.

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Part-Time Lover by Stevie Wonder

The Story Song Podcast

1:32:29 hr | 2 weeks ago

Part-Time Lover by Stevie Wonder

"This episode is brought to you by. Abc abc is bringing some serious heat on thursdays with all new seasons of station. Nineteen and grey's anatomy after surviving. The unthinkable meredith now faces an impossible choice. Stay at grey. Sloan with the people she loves or start a new chapter. Plus did you see who showed back up in mary's life last week. Can't wait to see where this is going. Don't miss an all new grey's anatomy thursday at nine eight central on abc and streaming on hulu infidelity. You can dance to this week on the story song podcast again. A hey everybody. Welcome back to the story song podcast. Mcinerney i'm rachel oakes and michael gazelle every episode on this show. We walk you through the world of a story song and this week you guys know. I'm a lover not a fighter but also you guys know that. I don't get health insurance because i'm a part time. I wanna love twenty five hours a week so this week. We are doing part time lover. You keep no paid vacation getting your lover shifts cut. I know damn love economy and this love economy boss. I need more hours now. Magic working like it's just like fifty care bears. And i'm like i am. I am putting in the work. I don't understand they're like well for one thing. You're not a magical teddy bear. that's really holding. You back unionized. So right this is discrimination. I i can't help that. I wasn't born. Imagine teddy bear doing part time lover by mr stevie wonder Ever heard of is while michael. I'd say about this onto us. Yep and this is a classic story song. And then i listened to it and not only. Is it a story song. But it has a lot of details lot of your day too many down. Let's let's hold onto that for a second before we get there michael yes. How's the story of the story song. Sure so part. Time lover is about a man. as portrayed by stevie wonder who is cheating on his wife and explained to us the listener in vivid detail the code and systems that he uses to communicate with his part time lover. Yes yeah there's like semaphore involved there's morse code. Yeah there's all kinds of things. Yeah one if by land a duck calls somehow point to the point where you're like stevie i always feel like you've thought about this too much like maybe maybe this is something that you know is hitting home for you or maybe this is like you know what i mean. This is all fiction. I've got the code completely worked out total fiction but in k. Right but like but again with anybody wants to actually do this right. What here's my three tape. Three cassete tapes of ways to circumvent your marriage and have a part time order and make. This is almost like the show. this is like the show had. How does it get made like shows like how crayons or whatever made but for cheating where it's like. It just feels so authentic. Oh i see. I see how it works. Oh they put the wrapper on the cran. Watts still warm that makes sense in addition to explaining not to give away the ending. But we usually give give away the ending. This point right. So i'll say this you're listening. It's a three and a half minute song. go lists. If you're worried about spoiling it goes in the come back so you got like a movie anything. you don't have to read it. Not a novelty magli. So by the end of the song he discovers that not only is he cheating on. His wife is cheating on him her own part time lover. What's good for the goose is good for wonder. That's what they say. Well i wanna say reinstated at the top before we do. This is something that i have thought many times. Which is i can safely say that. I've never cheated on my wife but anytime i hear about either a an acquaintance who's been caught cheating or a celebrity who is perhaps cut cheating on their spouse or celebrity acquaintance or slithering wins all those people doing the hollywood squares. I remember well. We all remember the scandal when alpha's caught with a cat at that. I do imaginable scan. Could you imagine anyway. It was mel mec eight. I always whenever whenever i hear about it. I always have the same thought. Which is this. That sounds exhausting. Where that i mean. Put all morality aside for the moment. Where do you find. The time is the time for this time. If this the amount of effort you have to put in. It just doesn't seem found. You made it made public in box. So what's happening here is that he has been with this part time. Lover lover went home and is calling him to let stevie know that she got home safely but obviously can't phone and be like. Hey what's up. Hey are you doing You got home and she says she does it. Ring ones then hangs up. This is weirdly like right off the bat. This is weirdly What's the word i want. He's he's concerned to make sure she got home. You know safely right. Like what i'm saying is i. This is surprisingly like full thoughtful and like more involved with the part time lover than you would think you know what i mean. Yeah she is not something that he does and then forgets about her genuinely concerned to make sure that she got home which again feels more realistic movie us. All that's my the woman. I have an affair with care about her. But of course like you probably would become attached to our emotion into. That's what i'm saying. So again the but i don't know he doesn't do it all this time. Tour of course. Not but i know cast dispersions. I'm just saying phil very realistic. So that maybe see firsthand. Knowledge of maybe a friend just told him yes. I would go so my question is do you think he calls this woman part time lover because i can't imagine that's enjoyable because it doesn't say with my part time lover he says don't want nothing to be wrong with part time lover part time lover as if you're episode he's like oh hey part time lover. Do you want to go get some panerabread. She's like my name. Is jessica not to me to me or part. Time lover plus. That's okay let's. My wife's name is jessica so we cannot do that. God helps out in some ways. But you know we're convenient make it easier just part time lovers. Pto can i tell you pto. His wife is pretty young things so she's pyti speedy right. It's interesting a lot of mistakes easily. Three's company her husband is michael. Her husband's michael wilpon so he's on. Pti so it's very convincing. That's a that's a joke just for me. I don't know what that means. Don't worry arouse people are laughing. Trust me it was a joke. Someone laugh at that job by me on my hilarious joke about a espn talk show. Okay so i've heard of that. Let me ask you. This does more sports. Does he spend more time with his part time lover when he's on vacation so like if he's on how he wants to more than pugh. It how does she's out with right. That's a good question. Yeah yeah and then. If they're concerned about what's going on in the schools you guys can see where this is going. Yeah well they do live in harbor valley so right if feel like they would join. That's right right. They needed to be on the pizza high with their pt l. but the but the big ours running gag they practiced they take practice Safe sex but she doesn't doctor for it so they just do. Ot pt els when they're together for pto well and that way they're tinker business. I think i did not. tcp right. and sometimes i get i get ice. What they think is ice cream. But it's not and then they go to. Tcp y only only when they They only go to. Tcp y on. Fridays you now. Tgif yeah exactly one line in so to make it about like when they watch perfect strangers. Which also tgif gotcha. Yeah it's interesting. That stevie starts not even in media res- this is after. This is after the date. The action hammett osage basically. It's already happened. This is the like as wanna let you got home safe. Brawl which is which is nice. is walking to her car. Like okay just because they're meeting in a hotel. Is that why she has to like you. Know what i mean like. Like he was at her place and then laugh at a third party at a neutral location and so they need to make sure they each other got home. So you know. I go on. I'll save some of my comments to later. Go on ever. That's i was asking again having never done this before. I'm trying to wrap my head around. What exactly is happening here. I mean they go to third. They go to a third location. I'm sure or the back of a car. Sure that hopefully listening. But they said yeah. Yeah i think. I think they've philip classy he's definitely he's bringing for the komax motoring. Don't worry about that. I think this also and again one line into the song. I think this puts us pretty clearly in the mid eighties Because and you'll see this through the rest of his code A lot of this could be eliminated if they just had a cell phone right a lot of just texting. Yeah and if it's like current times and he's like all right so you call up and let the phone ring but you hang up so i if it rings once on no that it to you and that means that you got home. Okay and she'll be like i could just text you right. Yeah and he's like no. Where's the drama. No i learned how to cheat from steve. And that is what i'm going to do. Also i could not figure out how to set a pass code so my phone is your in my phone. It's annoying co worker. So if my if my wife has it So knowing keeps calling and hanging up so they have a system. She she calls rings once So he knows that she got home and then if she's with me. I'll blink the lights to let you know. Tonight's the night for me in you my part time lover so i understand that line. She's with you. It's rock the night for you and her. It's the night for you and your wife. Because she's if she's with me. I'll blink the lights to let you know. Tonight's the night for me and you. You're just setting yourself up for disaster buddy. I think what he's saying is that he can't pick up the phone and call her because the waste there. But i guess maybe he's gonna like okay. You know i think stressing you're right or he's got a comfort a friend who's feeling down a right. Wasn't that the line from the lying is so he'll make up some excuse to leave the question. I have so that barbeque says question. I have is the white like after you do with the light. Leave the lights along. Why are you doing that. Like that's not gonna notice that. Were all the haunted house. Ooh trying to quiet down in school classic was happening. I hope it's like the porch light or something which is weird enough. Were like every time you walk past. The door is just like click. Click click click as opposed to like going to the circuit breaker and like all of the lights. Now go off and then turn on just like ten times just one of those big like make like on off. Switches like cocoon. Ooh i mean. Maybe that's assistant. Maybe maybe he's like look we've got ours it's gonna take her forever to reset all the i'm just gonna pull a fuse and toss it away this fusebox again. I'll see in a couple of hours. Cellphones goodbye just be like look i. Why don't we get these crazy ideas. Of course i'm not cheating on you. We have a poltergeist. And what i'm saying is don't climb into the tv. That's all right so okay but she like. So what does she do. She like sitting outside his house waiting for the lights to blink or does she live across the street. This is what i don't understand. This is a flawed system. There's many places where this can mess up if you constantly rings once and nothing happens. You're going to be suspicious. If you're blinking lights. That means this woman is sitting outside in her car. Outside of your home and you blink the lights. You mean that your wife isn't going to be like who's that person in the camaro sitting outside. I see her so many times. And you're flicking the lights. Yeah it's like it's like this weird thing keeps happening. The phone rings once the camaros outside. And all the lights. Go out again poltergeist. The answer is the very obvious the eighties. That's when the poultry guys. Tap big back. Then i mean poltergeists and poltergeist too double the portuguese. All the ghostbusters her. I would think you would definitely get fewer chasing love up against the sun right. We saying he wants to get home before daybreak but again like for what is he likes sneaking into bed and his wife doesn't realize he was gone like i don't understand what's a flawed system is easy saying that. He works a night job is he saying i mean. He's stevie wonder so he could be like listen. I'm playing gigs until five in the morning. it's true but i'll be back with sunup. Don't worry honey. He has a nontraditional job. I guess an excuse. I do have to say i actually really liked that line chasing love up against the sun. I don't know why i just like it. I like the intention behind it. But i like it the oh i love. Oh it's great. I mean. I'm not for cheating is what i'm saying. Okay all right. Like rachel is not for hard stance hearts leads. We'll we'll do a quick vote for the rest of the of the see how we feel it takes. It takes a songwriter as skilled as stevie wonder to make cheating poetic right. Yes you know. Like chasing up against the sun is such a lovely line about cheating Absolutely it's it's very poet. It's a very poetic way of saying. Look we we gotta check out by we. I'm not paying for late. Check out lover. There's if you know the lyrics to this job continental breakfast going good news. It's it's winter so we've got ours point. This is a song. Where if you are if you don't listen closely to the lyrics and you just hear something here and there like passion and lover all words which made me want to throw up in my mouth but anyway And it's so peppy you would think what a fun. Love song to do deep. It's so peppy and then you listen to it and you're like this is about awful. People is a song about terrible people doing terrible things. I'm still gonna listen to it. And it's still cotton my stuck in my head but i feel guilty about how much i whistle it. Well i mean. I don't think you know i think it's okay to have a song about terrible people doing terrible things. I don't think steve he's like i'm cheating on my wife and by the way it's awesome. No no no hold on hold on and actually here's the thing. There is not a moment of regret or guilt in this song. In the you disagree. Okay he saw. he doesn't even start with. He starts with call up. Bring hang up the phone. he's right into. This is how. I'm going to cheat on my wife. He is not saying. I'm really struggling. Torn with the fact that i love to people. There's nothing like that in here. It is a handbook on how to somebody in the eighties. It is not a handbook on how to deal with the emotional distress of being in love with two people at the same time. He is a okay with it. If you say that the knowing it's so wrong but feeling so right is the line that makes it. Seem like he understands. And there's a bit of regret you are dead wrong sir. You are dead wrong. You know what that is that is a. Cya is covering your ass. That is what he is doing. He saying. I know it's wrong but doesn't it feel so right. I guess buddy but it's let's put the emphasis on the wrong. He doesn't man. I went on a rant. I'm sorry guys. That's okay what i was going to say it was. I mean the the one thing that makes me feel like not totally hate this guy. Is i agree. I don't think he has much regrets or gives much thought to the feelings of his wife. But what does that tell. Is this the end. He's just like all right. Well let's doing it. She's gonna do like he's not he's not like he's like he's upsetting. Like how could you do this to be like. Well what are you gonna do. Yeah we'll get to the end there but yes but but this is this this chorus first of all great chorus there. That last line is as if he has caught himself realizing how exciting it is to be cheating on his wife. It is a sense of performance guilt that he is. Because that is a cle- shea line and i don't mean that like as stevie wonder is cliche. I am saying that as a writer. He knows it's a cliche line right. There's no emotion in there that changes. There's no change in. there's no change in the song. there's no change in the way he is singing. Its goal face carry. This character is a cliche lay. I don't i don't mean like i mean like like if you saw a person in real life and you just be like you. You're like a cliche. You are like your. I know you do the exact thing that people do like. Yeah right he's he's you know and he's doing in a way he's doing it because it is wrong like it. It's not like you've got swept up in something. It's like the excitement of of almost getting caught. That's what probably system sucks. He wants to like almost get caught doing this. So i he's he's turning one light on and off and then then he's turning to like by the end every light and she not notice And she's like. I'm really concerned about stevie. I think he has obsessive compulsive disorder. He's looking on dark. I'm concerned about his eyesight. Yeah personal but that's also kind of a a testament to how good writer stevie wonder is like he can take these cliches make them and make them character traits without making it sound cliche in the song. Right and yeah. This'll be clear. I think rachel would agree. We're saying that he's using the cliche to write purpose. It's not putting in cliche. Because he's a bad writer this again. This person is like you know ten thousand other dudes who have cheated on their wives like he's like oh it's so exciting because it's wrong and it's like yeah. Everyone thinks you're not nothing special. Okay your basic is what. I'm trying to our part-time lever base. jason la bob against the sun. We are strangers. Day lovers by night Sound like they're wolves but knowing it's so wrong but feeling so right and he says if i'm with friends and we should wait before we get to that please. Do you wanna say in this course and it happens a couple of times throughout the song stevie wonder again as a brilliant songwriter Kind of plays with the emphasis that he puts on certain words and like emphasizes the wrong syllable And it fits it. Fits into the music. But there's something so cool about it that you actually have to go back and think like oh that's not how you say lubbers. He puts the emphasis on the second syllable. And it's like no. That's that's not but it fits so well into the song and there's such emotion in in the accident being on the wrong syllable that it works perfectly in general in this song the the phrasing everything the phrasing he uses the actio phrasing he uses. Not the words is just wonderfully bizarre not to keep going back to the first lines but the first call up ring once hang up the phone and then get to apart later where you're like. He's then there's parts where he's trying to just fill as many words in two one breath as possible but he's all over the place with it. Which i think works for the song that this guy is all over the place. There's there's such a almost like like frantic energy to it yes Yeah that that works. And maybe that's where the regret and remorse comes in. Where like this song starts. You know as i guess. He's on his way home to his wife and he's just telling her call up bring once hangup quickly like here's what you gotta do. Here's the plan. So maybe it's a subtle remorse. Yeah i appreciate your china inject sound. But i don't think he's here. Michael i know i know i know nobody can see my face but michael yukon right now and i want figure out whether or not i agree with you. Are you rolling your eyes not yet. I don't even speak by the way he says. Don't even speak right is so cool such energy and that it's but there's a lot of this like at this point if this was like a lot of instruction so many rules. Have you see me. But i'm also with other people. Don't even look at me like don't speak to me. Don't look at me like even seen the seems like an unwritten rule. That's what i'm saying like but he's like his entire family. Do me a favor. Grab that dictionary off the shelf and look up the word discreet. Because that's what i need you to understand. Maybe you don't know the word discreet. But you should know it and you should be discreet and we happened to meet on the street. And she's like yeah. My name is part time lover. It ain't my first rodeo. Exactly what's up dude. Maybe you to speak to me How about that. I was with beth the other day you start waving at me like an idiot. Don't do that. You're also my part time lover so tit for tat using. She's i think she's cheating on someone for whom no. Here's what i think michael. Here's what i wanna think either. A she is cheating on somebody with him so they're both part time lovers or she knows exactly what this is and isn't sitting at home waiting for this dodo to figure out like leave and like like flick the lights and get in the car. Leave his wife for that evening. She's a yeah. I know. I know what this is. I'm not a dummy. I'm an adult. I think she definitely has a significant other. I think they're definitely are time libraries. Do they're both part time. I would like to think that she's cheating on someone as well. Is that when when these lights saying that. And and that's just good advice. Now i i would like to think that. Just so when he's like you know if if we see each other during the day don't don't talk to me if i'm other people so that she'll be like out with friends or family and stuff and he'll be alone be like oh my god. Hey how's it again. That's what i'm saying. Remember when we were cheated she was married. She was hang out a starbucks with beth and he comes over like a dummy waving says. This isn't this isn't a wait. You're not a wait staff. this is a starbucks. Get ham scrape peace. That's my that's your name. okay. I'm just going to flip to in this starbucks real quick laugh so okay so now the next part we have a situation here. I don't know if we've ever had before but it is difficult to understand what stevie says and we looked a couple of Lyric sites we had nothing to do with it. Mutual working on lyrics were nyquil. I just listened there. Was there some conflicting information. So i'm going to read this and then we can talk about it. But but if there's some emergency have a male friend to ask for me so then she won't speak to you my part time lover or it could be or she won't peak its really you. My part time lover are rachel you at a third option so my third option because this is one of the parts where he he puts a lot of words in this line and so i thought it was. But if there's some emergency have a male friend to ask for me something. She won't be to you my part time lover meaning. She won't be a friend to you if sh- if it's you that she sees or maybe it's like she won't be on to you. Maybe but because it's the it's it's the if you listen to it. He says the Like he he. There's a secondary part to it. That sounds like to you so sites a lot of words. you're right. I don't think we've ever had this this problem especially in this day and age with internet right back in the days when they didn't have all the lyrics on cds. Or you know on your your records. You're seventy eight probably like you know. This wasn't a thing read. The lyrics are in the liner notes. Or something right where you can. Just look them up. So so which one do you guys like the best. Well let's start with. I'm not quite sure what this we're we're talking about here. So but if there's emergency have a male friend to ask for me so like what kind of emergency like. She's in the hospital just like anything anything she needs to talk to him about. See have some random guy but this is about where this is so much worse. Where now if she like is in the hospital. I gotta get involved. Because here's the thing and maybe this is. This is this is just me but i feel like if i was if i was cheating rate the the woman i'm cheating with i'm like look is really nice being with you. If something happens you're on your own. I can't get it. Yeah there's could do if you burn yourself cooking bacon like figure it out. I tell you real specific like so it just weird that this is the second time where he was like well. If i'm worried that something's going to happen to you would again just feels emotionally draining till i constantly have to be worried and this again. Most of this like most of the rules are not about him. Like getting together with her to you know be together. It's like well. If i'm worried that like you won't get home or more that you'll be in the hospital it just it seems weird. It seems more about like other information. Outside of the asphalt. It's more about emotion than than the physical. Exactly exact unfair. Though i mean. I think we're assuming that this takes place obviously in the story song expanded universe. Okay of course while they all are just by covering it. It becomes part of the universe so i think statistically k. the fact they're cheating. There's a really good chance that something can happen to her. Yes well anybody. Who cheats in any of these songs definitely Murdered i mean being it like the life expectancy of a story song characters like thirty five right because most of them are going to be thirty five seconds that are going but i'm saying most of them are going to be killed whether hit by train or they're killed by celebri- shore. I mean one way or another. You're probably gonna end up dead before your time so. Yeah that's that's that is. This is a very dmz universe. That is a good point that he has spent a lotta time coal yard. There's there's drowning in the race cars. They're against cars. Sure deadman curves callsign. There's a lot of what you get buried alive nicole mind. There's a lot of ways you can die. Sylvia's mother. I mean juries out on her she killed she killed. That guy's dreams sure shot to a radio. You know anything's possible right so again. If she is like say re reshingling her roof and falls off she s she s to find a male friend to call this guy just to let him know that she's in the hospital right question. I is like who's this male friend who's like. Why am i call this guy like wh what was happening here But then again like what is stevie supposed to do he. Is he going to run out to the hospital because it was going to blink the lights because right right but if he runs out to the hospital though i mean i guess he just smarts coasts. I guess he just knows what he's going to run into like her friends and family gonna explain who. He is If he's at the hospital. That doesn't make i guess. The nurse could blink the lights and then everyone could leave he could. He'll know that it's okay for him to come in This last lines living will. She's the doctor comes in. He's like what do i need to know. She's like well. I have a part time lover that our entire relationship is based on a series of random tasks. Say no more every third patient. This is this song. Expanded universe everyone here. This hospital is on the cheating side. We're very very whatever this last line is. I think is essentially something like because if a male friend calls you know my wife won't be suspicious because of a a dude is calling me. Not right right. Yep brian so Unless she feels he has bisexual tendencies in know. What's going on. That's the thing you don't know what's going through the wife's mind either this well. That's part but this plan might not work so well in twenty twenty. One is what i'm trying to say in nineteen eighty five or whatever. Maybe that just you know that. Didn't people just didn't think that way you know now you'd have to like i dunno get a robot to call. Maybe saying yeah. I think you have an alexa. That's true alexa. Notify blah blah blah in a male british voice. Right yeah hope. Whoever's listening to this phones. And that. Because i had so. That's my my. That's my part. Time lover getting That's my part time lover trying to get in touch with me. I gotta go guys saw. The lights are actually blinking on. Hey part time lover. What's the weather going to be today. Last night someone rang days. There's an instrumental break at this point. That is so cool it is. Oh yeah but that's not what we do on the show michael so kidding note. You know what. I'm just going to do it guys. I'm on a heartache. Here we go. Twenty twenty one. I must say it and you know what you guys cancel me. If you have to get on your social media on your twitter's cancel me. But i'm just going to say this guy. He's not good. I'm going to say that you know what. And i don't care who hears i'm saying it right now okay. He might be kind of talented. Maybe maybe sarah so yes. So then he says once again. We aren't occur pressure on around. She's in love of sun restricted by lovers. Night knowing it's raba feeling so right so then he says. I've got something that i must tell. Oh last night. Someone rang our doorbell and he does it again. Hear the doorbell thing right. It's not bell. It's a doorbell bel mel doorbell time. Someone rang our doorbell and it was not you my part time lover. Well that's good. I stick by our rules. Ever do that No professional part time lover. I'm like yeah yeah. Ups other people ringing the doorbell. Jordache dash looking to me then. A man called our exchange but didn't want to leave his name I guess you can play the game of part time what i will say. Yes so the wife is also cheating with this guy. Apparently it's happening in one thousand nine forty-seven because he is raising knicks seeks. Yes operator seven two zero nine klondyke five but beechwood four five seven eight nine she. I'll accept the charges. The wife though not not doing a good enough job of like instructing her part time lover or this and this is. This is what i wanted to remember for the end. Yeah the wife doesn't care to what she thinks. She knows who i mean. Maybe she knows does she'd no. Are you kidding me. Of course she does well probably off the hook and nobody's nobody's talking spiral ring notebook out like what are you talking about right now. I love the fact that i love. That she doesn't west page of his notebook is like the mona lisa and i love the idea that she that she does not care. And he's doing all these things to sneak around and she's just watching him do them all being like city at i care like like. Do you think she went and got herself a part time lover after she had figured out. You know what. I mean where she was like well. If you're gonna do it that i'm going to do it and again i'm gonna be ro sloppy about it because i want you to. I want you to come and talk to me about it. And then i could be like. Here's all my evidence for you. What are you gonna do about it. So yeah i liked it. Or i'm not turning the lights off i am done. Resetting these clocks. yes i am you. I'll let them blinked twelve. I don't care or the third thing is or she has gone through all this but her part time lover isn't so bright while that's true one of these like you're pretty but maybe stopped talking with you for the conversation. What does that. Don't don't ring a bell ring. The bell arena battle. No no no repeat after me. Don't ring the bell ring the bell. Okay let's try it again. You're gonna call but you're gonna hang up. Okay i call. And i ask for you. No no no no. No no no. This is the last time. I find a part time lover at the gym. Forget it but he says someone rang our doorbell and it was in you part time lover so meeting like wondering the dermal. He was a door and it's some guy. Yeah because i can. I help you. And he's like yes. Cynthia home and he's like my wife no all right. I'll come back like this. Is i mean this is cheating. One a one-stop like you can't just ring the doorbell and charcoal husband. I mean my god man can you. Can you discover these flowers. Yeah ever call me. Yeah but he didn't say they're from pto but mount airy lodger with me. Well i mean all you have to bring your love of everything going goes. I guess that's why she was packing a suitcase. Everything that is that is a joke for our friends in the northeast anyway. Glass bubble bath for everybody else's listening. That's all you need to know about it tube going well i was gonna say this. Even if not everyone knows what. Mount airy lodge's every every area has a mount airy lodge. Every area has a comex motor in to you. You don't everybody. You don't need to know the specifics. Because you know in your town or your region. What those places filling your specific heart-shaped metairie. No reputable place has a heart shaped bed. No place has a champagne glass bathtub in the middle of the living room. Not one is reading architectural digest. And that's very and right now. Yes is this the pierre. Yes which here rooms has the heart shaped bed. None of them. Where a fancy place. Yeah so a man called our exchange but didn't wanna leave name. I guess you can play the game part time lover so i again i do love the factories like well. I mean i was hoisted by my own petard. So let me ask you. This totally deserved this so someone rang the doorbell and was not you my part time lover and then a man called our exchange. She have to part time lovers. I mean she might that we know of is their doorbell guy and phone guy. Well here's the thing. She used to have a fulltime lover but with benefits and stuff it was. It was really being difficult You know she could have. She could make her bottom line so she decided to have two part time lovers because then she doesn't pay for their health insurance off right right. She's really trying to make ends meet. She needs part time lovers michael. I don't think so. It's two different times. I think this guy rang the doorbell. And then stevie opened up the door. And he kind of looked. Like darren headlights and then ran away and then later on called her wren was like is cynthia there who's calling nobody and then hung up the guy from the doorbell But yeah so. He didn't yet didn't wanna leave his name. Maybe this guy is the male friend of the part time lover who west twist. Yeah going to say. Is this guy part. Part time lovers husband is that the is that the guy could be like a circle. Yeah i think. That's possible. But i i think what i i was going with. It was maybe it's her male friend who called to ask for him like as part of the code in the wife answers the phone and he's like you've got a pretty voice Like that and that would be amazing and they get together because he was trying to she was trying to use him to get her a message to stevie but that everything backfired or did it because the first line of this when he's got something that i must tell is he sitting the part time lover down and being like guess what we don't have to sneak around anymore bringing all the part that made our relationship really exciting and passionate. We don't have to worry about that anymore. Now we can go to a movie in the middle of the day seeking to have soup together. We go we can. We can pay matinee. Prices just think about Sneak around anymore. We could just go grocery shopping. Isn't that exciting. You know. I didn't even see that. I've got something that i must tell. I assumed i was gonna say. I assume stevie was talking to us. But that's a good point. He could be talking to the part time lover talking to his wife. No kids he says. I've got something that i must tell last night. Someone rang our doorbell and it was not you my part time lover. You're okay never mind it. Take it back. Okay thank you know. But i wonder if this is the downfall of their relationship because she's like oh i was just in it for the sneaking around so i mean now the point of it yes absolutely. That is what's going to happen yay. They'll try to make it work for like a month and then it'll fall apart because it's unexciting anymore. I was only going to say it's it doesn't make sense because you're a he says it wasn't you my part time lover but i was wondering if he was going to the wife. It's almost like a like a. Hey i know you're cheating and also by the way i'm just kidding minute because you probably already know that so it was like a e confrontation a confession. I could see that. I can see. No no it's fair. that's why i mean. That's that's she was lovers in this. Just because she liked tracking codes and then after after he finds out that his wife is also cheating the lasco that he sensors drink your ovaltine. She's like i'm done with us. I'm going back to doco the Wasn't going to say. Oh yeah just when you mentioned about the the male friend. I've just trying to imagine rachel because we're friends right Yeah you just being like. Hey i cut my hand open cutting a bagel. i'm in the hospital. Do me a studious solid. Could you call my time lover. And as a tell him so cases wife answers. I'd be like what no talking about. Of course. i'm not gonna do that so just it seems like a big ask is what i'm trying to say i'll say this. It does seem like a big ask and dan. We are have been friends for a long time. And i know you enough to know that you will be the last person that i would ask to do something like that because i do not think you could pull it off. I think you'd be sweating. You face with get red. You get real anxious. I'm genuinely trying to decide. Take that as an insult or a compliment. Because you're like look the most moral person i know. I know that you would not want involved in that. Both you and michael. There is no way people that i would ask you something like that. Hey do me a solid. And do this very amore over me and live some poor them base. Do something both amoral clandestine. Which two things i cannot be. Let me ask you some. How many bagels are left. All right so then he says i guess you could play the game with part time lover. You and me part time lovers. But she and he part time lovers part time. Lovers lovers better typical. And then there's the best like that ending do but he's very good. I think that when he does you and me you and me that he's coming to the realization and he's he's like but she and he hung after he says he part time lovers if she's just like right we gotta talk about this maybe focus on she and he because you and me Nice All right anything else on this song. This is a great song that's it. It's a stevie wonders amazing. The song is great and it's nice to have a song or story song in the story song expanded universe where somebody cheats on somebody and nobody ends up murder. That's true that is a rare real nice change of pace real rare. It has chad you most about cheating. Do not end with a shrug. Well you with someone being murdered. But there's are we gonna talk about the b. side to this part time murder. Yeah i mean typically like this song ends with him being there. I guess that's fine. As opposed to. That's when body that will never be found right exactly. Yeah yeah yeah. Come on god. When will that woman be brought. The it's been nearly fifty years Song i landside still expanding universe. This to me is the bizarro version of escape. The pina collado song. He's looking for a part time lover and it turns out it is his wife so it would be like so it would basically would be you and me part time lovers but you me part time. Maybe he maybe. He meets his part time lover through the same personal ads. That rupert home. Oh yeah meets his wife. Yeah i think that's true. This could have been a completely different thing. If ruben homes had read one personal ad down from where he stopped yes well because his personal pinochle lot is getting caught the rid and all that steve. Do you like very complicated rules followed. Yeah so come be with me. He said his ad was done. Like you can only undo it with the enigma machine. Exact to either either. I can go on a day. Would see tonight or i know where the nazis landing. It's one of the two I mean let's just get out of the way that obviously this story takes place on the cheating outta town. Well i'll say this half of it takes place on the cheating side of town. The other half takes place on the other side of town where his wife is so they flick shooting though you down all takes place on the cheating side of town their house where lights on and off and there's a ghost that's not cheating side of town. Okay that's fair enough. But they're always spending too much time on the scientific because everybody's she owner buddy. Al town tends empty. There's nobody just people flicking lights out enough to empty houses. The other thing is you know if If cvs card or he he catches the wife's boyfriend on the porch whatever. Obviously they're going to say it wasn't me right of course gone out there. So is it possible that we did talk about the fact that the part time lover might have a husband or significant other is that significant other. Tom jones is she delilah. Wow does it end poorly. Maybe how does delilah end. I don't i don't remember with Someone dies okay. Yeah of course you know. I not occurred to be until this moment. This is a dangerous universe. this is a rare wind. Where like every you know he even though they're cheating on each other Again it just ends in a shrug like nobody's nobody's killed. We met somebody else in another song who really likes codes. So maybe this is knock three times later. Oh yeah or maybe. That's how cb matt her. Maybe she's ready to. Maybe that's why she can see. The lights are blinking. because she's right upstairs that's true. I liked maybe maybe see tony orlando live with their wife in apartment upstairs from The part time lover. Yeah or maybe irma. This decec- met his his wife initially was loves like little secret codes. And of course so at all you know yeah. That's just his thing. I could see that and then she was like. I'm not knocking three times on the ceiling. Like just to say good morning you know. Stop is stevie wonder character and i'm trying to think of this works the other guy from take a letter maria the the other guy from take like the the guy that the wife is cheating. Yes yeah could if the part time lover is why aaron is the wife of rj or whatever. His name is okay. Are w what's his name are b rb. It was. yeah that makes sense. That makes i like that. Oh gosh and is maria his. Stv's wife so he comes so rb comes and and sees maria and he falls in love with maria they become part time lovers and it turns out. Maria is stevie wonder's wife also known. As cynthia cynthia maria cynthia maria her very italian name. Yeah yeah i was just gonna. I got confused so i'm gonna yeah i lost along. That's fine. I just wanted to throw back to an old one that we now we've forgotten about when i forgot about. We have not mentioned a lot of time. Do you think you know maybe when the When when the wife found out about stevie cheating right and it's tv First of all they get. Dav c. e. sure but then stevie marries the part time lover and the wife shows up and says i hate the bug you in the middle of dinner version of me. Well you know and then you ought to know interesting guys. Remember we did. You ought to know like a million years ago little bit. I yeah. I got. I got two more. Okay this'll be a dumb cutting enough all right but these would i know. Well i'm not stopping. You is the part time levered. Just in his imagination So is his wife does his does his wife decide to cheat on him because he's just sitting there like turn the lights on and off for no reason all day right blinking turning the lights on and off at this girl who is what is going on. He's like he's calling from the other room and then running in being like don't worry about that call you. I know it's you what are you doing and Could his wife josie and was she on vacation far away when he met his part time. Lemon on in talk it over. Surely okay that works. That works tilted make sense stevie smooth and like the the outfield guy like he can close the deal the she left Before they did anything. But i don't know maybe we'll say we'll see maybe All right let's let's leave it there. we're gonna take a quick break and we come back. We'll talk about the history of this song which you know this little artist stevie wonder i remember this not much talk about but we'll we'll throw brick we'll see but We'll talk about that when we come back For sorry about the story. We'll dylan american shakespeare to you in conjunction with crystal clear records each episode. We focus on fishery released. Our we have two distinct rules number one. We listened to the whole album number two. We don't skip and hopefully we rediscovered the excitement without listening to these albums for the first time we're going in chronological order so we also a flavor of power dylan's career older while listening. We tried to consider dylan's influence alongside the other great cultural touchstone shakespeare. It's a lotta fun and we hope you'll to him the many listeners that ready to thin line all the usual listening platforms. You can find on twitter. I said she had dylan america. See soon all right. We're back hope. Everyone enjoyed their break Right now we're gonna listen to the story behind the story. Michael yes lose. Walk us through the story behind part time lover by Mr wonder schorr so talking about stevie wonder is like wonder if someone went up to you yes obviously but if someone went up to you and said like tell me quickly about the beatles it's that kind of yeah he said i will say if you're going to be covered on this show do us a favor. It's it's really rude being on the show to start at like pretend like professionally. You gotta go back even further right like try to start in your twenties like. Don't be little stevie. Yeah again just rude. Because i just add extra extra time we cover. So what i'll do is. I'll i'll just give you a brief history of of stevie wonder and i think let's look at where he was when the song came out So stevie wonder was born. Stephen hardaway judkins on may thirteenth. Nineteen fifty in saginaw michigan After his parents divorced he moved with his mother to detroit where he was active in the church choir and by the age of ten he had taught himself piano harmonica and drums. Mike i appreciate the chance to be through this. But i gotta stop. I already have to stop us short in the discovery that stevie Stevie wonders. I day was not stephen but is it a bag steve land. That's okay all right fair enough. His entire sounds made up more made up than the name. Stevie wonder yes. I agree steve. Lind hardaway judge akins jenkins carried. I i knew his last day was really wonder but again. The shock that is first name is not stephen is is really last. Name should actually be wonder. Yeah like gives you name. It would just be like yeah. This makes sense. Yeah yeah said like. We've said this. Before but i mean you know you're good when you can call yourself. Stevie wonder like nobody. I sense sure. So at the age of eleven He was discovered by ronnie white of the miracles. Who brought him to edition for berry gordy and he was signed to motown records. Very brief overview As little stevie wonder he released two studio albums in nineteen sixty two but it was his third album in nineteen sixty three That was his breakthrough in nineteen sixty three recorded. A and released a live album called little stevie wonder recorded live twelve year old genius. Yeah nothing about. That is is incorrect. Yeah so that album was his breakthrough and it went by the way went to number one on the billboard. Two hundred And it also included his first major hit. The single was fingertips part two. Want to number one on the billboard hot one hundred and the billboard charts always weird when the sequel does better than the originally and that that also one of the weirdest number one hits ever because it was recorded on american bandstand taped show and if it was actually making it was it was alive his with him. Yeah i've just seen video of it and it's like there's like a bunch of kids like around him in a circle but it's it's i'm going to say that just him playing leher monica with people clapping but like that sounds bad but it is in fact. Like fantastic and brilliant. But it's just so weird where it's just him like playing the harmonica and then like random kids in a circle around him clapping and it's fantastic. It's it's really weird. I his best known songs include superstition which went to number one You are the sunshine of my life also. Went to number one sir. Duke went to number one signed sealed delivered. I'm yours which he also. He co wrote the other songs he wrote. But it was a co writer on that went to number. Three my cherie amore. Musica writer on went to number four ebony and ivory which was written and before written by and performed with paul mccartney went to number one. And isn't she lovely. Which is basically like a pop standard at this point neo. Yeah never charted on the hot one hundred but it did go to number twenty three on the adult. Contemporary chart asked me. What is it a single. Why a single another one that we've had a couple. I think it didn't chart. But they were on the adult contemporary or whatever. Well the reason it was on the adult contemporary was stevie wonder the album version of the song. Something like seven minutes long and stevie wonder didn't wanna cut it down for a single release got it but due to popular demand they released a promo version two radio stations. That was a single version that was released as a promotional single only. It did so well in terms of radio play that it actually charted crazy. Also that song fun fact if you don't know that song isn't that the song that starts with like a baby cooing well about his daughter so we've talked about the grammy hall of fame which honors recordings of quote lasting qualitative or historical significance. That are at least twenty five years old Stevie wonder has six recordings that have been inducted into the grammy hall of fame. The superstition single from nineteen. Seventy two was inducted in one thousand. Nine hundred eighty eight tommy book. The album was released in. Nineteen seventy tune inducted in one thousand nine. Inner visions album was released in. Nineteen seventy-three also inducted in one thousand. Nine hundred nine The songs in the key of life album was released in nineteen seventy six and inducted in two thousand two. You are the sunshine of my life. Were the single release in nineteen. Seventy-three was also inducted in two thousand two and for once in my life the single was released in nineteen. Sixty eight inducted in two thousand nine michael i have both interventions in signs of the key life on vinyl within arm's reach of me to should do they need those. Should i send those to the grammy hall of fame. I think we've actually been looking the only caucus. Okay says the cabbie. Yeah so no secret. Life of plants. all right. Well you say grabby hall of fame. Is it over. Twenty five years old but speed. That'll think it came out ninety six and now it sounds very late. Ninety s in two thousand five songs in the key of life was added to the library of congress national recording registry as culturally historically or aesthetically significant sound recording and a work of enduring importance in to american culture to them to all right. Yeah well it's a. It's a double album right. So i guess each one that's true it's record so that brings us to where mr wonder was When part time lover was released part time lovers from the in square circle album this was released twenty three years into his career which is a point where it would be like well. Maybe he's not having huge hits. Maybe he's not getting a lot of radio airplay. That is not the case At the time this was his first studio album and five years It was released on september thirteenth nineteen eighty five and by december of that year it was certified double platinum with more than two million copies sold. You know i remember when we did. I caesar italian restaurant right there. Like billy joel was like endangered being dropped by his label and all that stuff and then that album which was the stranger was a big hit and he became the billy joel that we know today like stevie wonder ever had like a fallow period or is it always just been kind of like steady going now peaches scream. I'm just saying like was there ever a time. He was like in danger of not being like super famous and successful or i mean not my knowledge. I think maybe every artist has kids and songs that aren't hits. But like i mean since would we say nineteen sixty three. He's been right. Pretty much consistently commercially creatively and critically successful like yeah. And he's a legend. So i mean right. I'm in yeah i i. I don't to my knowledge. I don't think there was ever a time where it was like We're done with stevie the amend. We should drop steve. You know he's he's been consistently working consistently brilliant again. He was like hey. My last name is wonder and also released an album. That's me seeing the plant and everyone was like okay. Everybody stamp steve is going to do something with plans. Is that so you know what what is it that that makes that that give somebody that kind of career longevity and I think there is a new york. Times review by stephen holden Of the square circle album on september fifteenth nineteen eighty five. Where he says. Mr wonder sound like that of the beatles hasn't dated the way. Most pop styles tend to do in the early seventies. he was a studio. Pioneer who unhesitatingly embraced the synthesizer for its color ristic possibilities today when everyone is using the sort of electronics that he was among the first to play with his musical signature remains indelible and distinct. So i mean there Yeah again has a sound you know yes was gonna say it sounds boring in cliche to say but yeah i mean you listen something like super superstition. You like the sounds just as fresh today as it did when it was released. And it's it's just it's timeless in a way it's also funny to think about this. Review is like just like the beatles has dated like me. Meanwhile the bills broke up fifteen years before right this review was written. It wasn't even that line in the past. They're like well. I guess. I mean i guess feels. You're still okay here in nineteen eighty-five We're we're really focusing on flock of seagulls these days tackly musically Part time lover. According to stevie wonder was inspired by two songs by the supremes You can't hurry love and my world is empty without our. I didn't think about that until you just read that. But now i can hear it now. I totally hear the inspiration. Yeah definitely there's i like can't hurry love and the to do as a similar sort of the base line you can definitely hear it in in both and if you really listen to it. The both of those songs are about Flipping the lights on and off and your shit. That's the main. That's the crux of it. After nine weeks on the billboard hot one hundred part time lover reached number one the week of november second nineteen eighty five the top five that week were at number two miami vice theme by yan hammer shore awesome. That's great and totally deserves it's Number two sides number three saving. All my love for you by whitney houston number. Four was head over heels by tears for fears and number five was take on me by a ha. What's the most eighties billboards hot. One hundred. oh is it. What number two was the miami vice theme. Oh yes. I'll take that thank you. Well i mean to be fair. The following week The miami vice theme went to the number one spot perfect and sends you bring it up rachel that week. The week that part time lover went to number one You would have heard these other songs on the radio as they were all in the top one hundred. This is a bit of a long list bear with me. But you're going to love it. You belong to the city by glenn. Fry also from miami vice. Yes yes we built this city by starship and write a song about a city. And you're you're along the radio broadcast Fortress around your heart by sting separate lives by phil collins and marilyn martin never by heart Wings by mr. Mr who zoom in who by aretha franklin question still relevant today. We're still wondering we're still wondering zooming. Who dancing in the street by david. Bowie and mick jagger south america always cherish by cooling. The gang Sisters are doing it for themselves. By the by the eurythmics aretha. Franklin dress you. Up by madonna america by prince small town by john mellencamp freedom by wham. Don't lose my number by phil. Collins conga by miami sound machine weird science by going. Oh boy no. We don't need another hero. Open print that the parentheses thunderdome close parentheses by tina turner and both saint elmo's fires and we what's the other what's what's hitter. Saima's fire the instrumental. the one. gosh yeah okay. All right and finally the power of love by huey lewis and the news guys it just too darn loud this the conclusion sleight of my powerpoint here is this was perhaps the greatest week in the history of music that is like. That'd be no that's a great. That's a great play right. They're gonna be good eighties playlist there. You go to bald statement michael. I don't have any evidence to to refute it february ferry twenty nineteen ninety-one far far. Be it for me to impugn broken wings by mr mr but maybe there were other. Maybe like somewhere in nineteen sixty nine. There was a stronger week but Yeah that's fine we can. We can We can go with Don't lose my number by phil collins. Sure why not okay. Things first of all. That's a great thing. Say this video here of all time we can we can. We can debate that. Is this possibly the best week for like eighties music. Well that's is pretty good or it is certainly in the top to the other one. We talked about the the week that the juice newton version of angel of the morning to number one was also pretty incredible. Yeah But i think any week in the eighties. We would find incredible. I'm just saying. I'm you've got saint almost fires on this. I know i mean you trust me. Seen almost fire. Give it a minute. I'm the guy who said the miami vice theme by john hummer deserved. It's come at me like i. I'm out here bid against this. I said it was also. It was a great week for soundtracks. Wasn't going to say it's funny. How it's like weird science. We don't need another hero by thunderdome. Which i've said before i mean obviously love tina turner but i imagine being like tina didn't like some doesn't literally about what happens in the movie right Yeah then parallel and cinemas fire so yeah and she said what to do and get mel gibson to sing. Backup for me if you ever like. If you're listening to the radio that we can and you're like i don't know do we need to need both cinemas fires. Can't we have two songs from say miami vice right the dj's like we wait a minute and yeah one of them's instrumental. And that and the mental is the bigger hit by part time lover going to number one on the billboard hot one hundred endo contemporary chart it also went to number one on the r&b chart and the dance chart. This song made stevie wonder the first artist to have a number one song on four. Different billboard charts. Wow so he's got a couple of billboard records what a one yard some of the singers who provided background vocals on the track. Were philip bailey. He's one of the lead singers of earth wind and fire cerita right Who's a frequent collaborator With stevie wonder both musically and when they were married Briefly in the early seventies They weren't married at this point but they were married. I think for like two years or something in the early seventies. Her biggest hits a singer were in the late seventies early eighties and she's probably best known for her. Nineteen seventy nine with billy preston called with you. I'm born again. Oh and by the way another one the background singers was luther vandross. So i guess if you're stevie wonder you get some pretty good musicians to work with tenants right part time lover which was as we said. A huge hit for stevie wonder was released just one year. After another one of stevie wonder's biggest hits the international number one single called to say. I love you which was from the film. The woman in red. It won the nineteen five academy award and the nineteen eighty-five golden globe award for best original song. It won the oscar verses. Let's hear it for the boy from footloose and also footloose from footloose. Against all odds take a look at me now from against all odds and ghostbusters from the movie. Don't tell them that. Like i said this was a huge year for him. A very successful era for him and it was twenty three years after his first album. So pretty incredible overall. I mean again. Just the fact that i like i you know he's so good that like you almost don't think about it because i was generally asking like when stevie wonder like had problem in his career. I mean again like you know. Now he's he's he's gotta be in his seventies right. I mean obviously he slowed down this guy. He's seventy one as so twenty If you have just gotten this from some sort of time capsule this was recorded in twenty twenty one but yeah no i mean he went from like you know early seventies straight through to to like ninety s with really no problem right. Abc's trucking along. Yeah i i think it's. It's it's not about the time between projects it's about the qual- the continuing quality of the projects. I mean the man is a mainstay and and and you know a national treasure now. So you know who's written and recorded basically pop standards. Yeah of course. And he's he's you know he's been in the business since he was twelve or earlier than that. But i mean wasn't that you know mozart. Beethoven was real young when they started. He's one of the things. The dog hub. Thinking charles road and i apologize. But he's he's a legitimate musical genius and it started off as a you. The you know like a child child prodigy and right but allowed prodigies. Don't always go on to be successful adult. That's what i'm saying. Is that the that child prodigy. It it it belied this genius musical genius. It wasn't just a fluke. It wasn't you know it. It wasn't a gimmick. It was legitimate musical Ingenuity and genius nece. Had you say that while speaking of genius belied that a. I don't even know if i used it correctly either. Smart yeah i very much rachel. I thought it was a good blinding. I will say this. Be that as it. May i thought say for all intents and purposes Thank you michael. Thank you for that history on Steve land we're gonna take a quick break and when we come back we'll tell you about the lesson we learn from this song with lessons learned. There's only one thing missing from the story. Song podcast pictures. You can fix that by following us on instagram. Story song podcast. You'll find album covers of the songs we've done behind the scenes photos new episode announcements and more get the full experience. Follow story song. Podcast on instagram bag. It's time for lessons learned. What lesson did we learn from this. Let's with michael michael lesson. Did you learn from part time laver. I learned If you have a code to communicate with a part time lover stevie dozen the song. The holidays are really going to complicate. That what you're gonna wanna do one goes out. They all go out right. You're going to want to double check every day every single christmas light. If one goes out they all go out. You don't want these lights blinking exercising. Say yeah if the lie. Yeah even if they're working if the lights are blinking. it's really gonna cause a lot of confusion. Yeah right for your for your part time lover. Yeah that and she's like. Oh i guess i guess. He just blinking the christmas lights today. Well yes yeah. Yeah oh i was gonna say or is she thinks every night is is your night because they're blinking now you want to make sure they're solid and whatever you do definitely does do the thing with the lights or time to music. Because she's going to be totally obvious so it's even worse if you have the lights connected to your phone and somehow are they lincoln. I think pretty much to look after thanksgiving pause this for like because it's too complicated. How about this. I have one of those light up snowmen. If the light up snowman is on inside. But don't look at the lights because you're going to get real confused. Look snowman's broken Let's leave it out there like that. It's it only goes on every once in awhile. He's supposed to do that a. The lesson i learned is that guys. Look it's the world's getting crazier by the day. We all have so many commitments. It's nice to get your friends together your family together and do a game night. You know what i mean. That's just a great way to get. Everyone gathered on the table. And again that i like to play a game called part time lovers now two can play this game. Okay so you're gonna have a board. There's a gay right. there's just a to you. Everybody's your blinking lights colorado's everybody's cheat on everybody else right. You gotta be careful. You gotta be careful like you'll have a car. This is an emergency that you have to ask your male friend. Who's sitting next to you to tell the person there under the table so it's a complicated game but it's it's really fun. It's like clearer. Something that's right. Yeah you have a lot of talk. Rachel what did you learn. I learned that if you're a part time lover maybe find a friend with benefits because then you can get benefits because many times as a part time leather children's. Yeah just who. Friends with benefits or unit or unionized. Find other part time and that's actually why yeah in early. Two thousands part-time levers turned into friends with benefits. Just so people could literally. that's right. yeah yeah so. It was a little loophole. That people figured out just by changing the name of their part time lover They could yeah they could. They could get their teeth fixed. So that's right with people don't know that but if you went to the dentist it was like i have a friend with benefits or like damn. We gotta fix her teeth. Scrape at will help you out. Just say or part time lover. Sure get aflac to help you. They'll help you with anything that you're talking about ben affleck right so we'll help you with anything. Yeah i know the jalen right now is Has a friend with benefits if you joined the part time lover union. I'm pretty sure you get like discounts in movies and museums show. Yeah so all right. Well thank you guys so much for listening to the stories on podcast if you can follow us on the socials like instagram twitter and facebook. Have you go with a five star. Review on apple podcast. Wherever your podcast we would certainly appreciate it Come back next episode. We'll have another great story song for you. Want spoiling thing. But it might be a halloween special so no might be a little all spooky scary. Get ready for that But it should be a good time. So thank you guys again for listening on dan mcinerney. I'm rachel oakes back at you next time goodbye. Our theme music was written and performed by jason flowers. Find him on twitter at jason flowers with z. Some of our bumper music was provided by purple planet. Our logo was designed by dan. Rather be sure to like us on. 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Dan Patrick Show - Hour 1 - (05-21-19)

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We didn't demand a recount a lot of these aren't through. Okay. Okay. All right, suck, at both rose. Steph cries for five. Good. Okay. I like it. Taking the golden high road man cavemen offer. Congrats. That's something that's mentioned. Yeah. The Roman road brewery, scorn Heiser, Mr Tony didn't recognize DP show as legitimate threat. I don't know if that's true or not. Pty Dan, and team feel like knuckleheads. Okay. We'll always Chris knucklehead. Reality bites popular host in Danijel over latest loss a little stretch. Their reality doesn't work on the longtime okay? Clock blocked. Three hour, daily show falls to thirty minutes, bait. Wow. Learn cutthroat six times, more work, every day, whatever. Okay. Thirty times six three hundred unhappy trails DP, gang briskly departs for dinner if the not hearing name called. Unhappy trails. And the final what it'd be ever been omissions, the kademi. Got it wrong again. I don't know if they got it wrong, we I thought that maybe there was something of because a rod was up there with Michael Strahan. Michael Strahan is a friend of the show, and they're the presenters of that category. So the first four categories Alex Rodriguez, and Michael Strahan are up there on sportscenter desk, and they announced the nominees, and then the winner and I thought just for a moment here. A rod who's not a friend of the show. Maybe looked at the envelope when he opened it up and went LA La Land. Yeah. That maybe it said, you know, Dan Patrick show. And then maybe he just said, pardon the interruption. Yeah. Polling, but Strahan, good friends, the show, wouldn't let that happen. It's jamie. See the envelopes Ryan's bigger. I think he could take them. I don't know if you saw the envelope that might have been one of those that Iran had it opened it up. And then just blurt it out, pardon the pardon the interruption. Yep. Well, we were sitting in the row. Roque. By the way, not too close to the front, and I turned toward seat and seat in one of his favorite athletes of all time is Alex Rodriguez. I said, wouldn't it be great if Alex Rodriguez handed you a sports EMMY and he goes hand would be pretty nice. And we were that was twenty seconds before the announcement. There is nothing like this that okay for the last couple of weeks we've thought about this. You know how are we going to accept the award? Who's going to speak first? And fritzy, of course, speaks last, and then I started to think, okay. Right before they announce who won. They go through all the nominees. They run through all it's the jump, and it's MLB tonight and it's pardon the interruption and outside the lines in the Dan Patrick show. And then there's that there's like six seconds where you're just going, we might win this, and the winner is pardon. The interrupt Cam it. Let's go, let's get outta here. Let's go. I was standing up, regardless of what name they call the that I was going to the stage or going out the door. Yeah. Yeah phone. Dan, it sounded something like this. The nominees for outstanding studio show daily are. The Dan Patrick show direct. TV NBC. The jump ESPN. MLB tonight, MLB network outside the lines ESPN, pardon, the interruption ESPN. And the EMI goes to pardon the interruption ESPN. Yeah. Whatever. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. On the club. That was a real time impersonation in the enter it goes to part in the interrupts. All right. Let's go it was, there was no time gone before we were out the door pardon the interruption while we get up and leave one of the best parts of the night though, brief, as it was is Sarah Spain, our buddy from ESPN was hit, and run one or behind this. We saw at the little cocktail hour. She's funny. And as they're announcing the candidates, they go, the nominee, the Dan patch show. I'm totally rooting for you guys. I hope you win. And then they will the nominee PTI goes. Oh I like them too. I really like them as she went through each just outside the lines. What a great show. I love Bodley, and she was going, she was just at us the whole time, so we didn't win, but it's just it's just an honor to be nominated and really is I'm trying to think who I usually take it the worst out of you guys. I take it the worst because I want you to have that feeling of being on stage there and getting that that award. Out of the dannettes, who took it worse. I think I was a little bit of a soldier for while you were sat at dinner last night. I was bummed. I, I was hanging out with you guys. We had a nice dinner and everything. It just it I don't know. It took a while to sink in. And I just I thought after last year that, you know, getting nominated for the second straight year that this would this was going to be the unknown. I'm waiting to hear the Dan Patrick show being announced in that didn't happen. What we're not like long-suffering nominees. That's only been two year. No, but two years in a row is very exciting and awesome. But after losing to MLB network last year this year, you know, second time would be a charm, and I really, you know, allowed myself to believe that they were going to say, our name them. Guests you somebody had said last night, who doesn't work on the show. So I won't say who was, but they summed up my feelings perfectly in that we lost to show that plays clips of our show. Well, cold-blooded blended. See, now we sound like it's sore losers. Hello. Look around the room. See, I don't mind losing a PTI. That's a good show that I watch. I really don't I I like PTA and you know, it's weird is I came in with somebody who was nominated in the same category for another show. And he said to me, oh, are you presenting and I go no no, no nominated? He goes studio host. I go, no, the show, he goes, what show the Dan Patrick show goes, oh, I said, we're in the same category as you. And he goes. I'm sorry. I didn't know that. He's still doing that. Little thing in the attic, they're done. Yeah. You know, I had a guy the like usher, whatever you know, when you have to go in, they say, so this guy just came up to me and the French kid and was like, hey guys, I'm here to help you guys. Find your seats for when everybody has to go. See your tickets. Please affleck. Yes. Sure he go and guy said, okay, you're going to go over by the elevator down these stairs or whatever, and you're right up front and I was just kidding. I was like, oh, is that where they see all the winners? And that's what everybody who wanted won an award there in that section. Right. And the guy looked at me goes yet, don't wear you're going to be around celebrities. Okay. Don't worry about it. It's fine and left the house like yes on well, and has an extra what I'd have to believe is an unintentional jab. They didn't promptly arrange the seating that way right after we lost, I think it was the very next of order to what's the had to get up and let a bunch of people who won the award go through. And they kind of barged through and pulley Boito attention. I think they stepped on at least two of our feet storming through is we have to stand up and let me pardon me. Yeah. Hey losers. Excuse me. Pardon me. Excuse me. Short form documentary or something and on Williamson and documentary one these three nights from net flicks or whatever they do or the production company they were sitting just to the right of us. And so, we're still like licking our wounds and then they die in Williamson net flicks, and these three dudes jump up. And we're trying to get we thought they had to go to the bathroom. But then they were a little too excited to go to the bathroom as a group and then outside as we walk out there outside. There's a big poster of the sports Emmys, and when you're done, you stand in front of it, and get a picture you one and they're standing out there like like they just summited Mount Everest, and we're walking by looking for a bar. I had some people who did win last night, who sent me pictures after they won last night. It's all right. I'd have it. No other way. But it was a little disappointing with somebody that I once worked with who didn't know that, that the show was nominated in the same category. As this person show, the EPO the I team has also learned that you had a brief incident where someone you also used to work with a former network said something to you, that I team's hearing rumblings. Well, okay. So I go I go up the elevator. I go up the elevator and I'm on the elevator with somebody who was nominated his show and my show, and then I had another in the span of five minutes I had. Two moments that really stood out. The other one was I ran into an executive who says, hey, not everybody hates you, you know, and he was talking about the network that he works out. And what do you just want to let you know, not everybody hates, you and I go. Wait. Why would they? Why, why? Why would they hate me? I kind of gave some good work there. I think denying it. So that happened in five minutes up the elevator. Oh, I didn't know you were nominated. Oh, your show. Yes. In the same category with you. And then the other one, a not everybody hates you at your former employers office. Yes, I love the aloof role of like the guy being like, oh, you're nominated to really what category for what show the Dan Patrick show. It's, it's my name, it's literally my name, the Dan Patrick show, that one, you didn't recognize that. Yeah. We're, we're, we're in the same category. Yes. We're gonna play the popular game, which network was the guy from nobody here. I'd rather not do that. Not everybody. He meant he meant. Well, it just didn't come out. Well, not everybody hates you everybody. Yeah. And I said, well, that's good. I said, you know, maybe one person does. But that's it guy security. He thinks you're pretty nice guy. He likes. Being guy at the. Kind of line to that. He planned by see Dan. I'm going to save us. And then he did. And you're like what the hell are you talking about? Yeah. Why did you just say that to me? Hey, I got an icebreaker. When I see, Dan, Patrick. I'm just gonna let him know that not everybody hates him. You know not everybody here. Hey, too. Thank you. That was my first five minutes and I'm not drinking anymore. So I get in there. I can't even go let me get to the bar. I got to the bar, and I had the French kid go up, and get me some some water, and I'm going this can't end quick enough. It just can't and we, we were hiding against we look so out of place. We do but but I love it. You know, we had the French kid bought body, his outfit, right before the event, and his pants weren't even hemmed. They were like we're just a mess drag it on the ground. We're just a mess. I had a new belt on and still the tag on it when I walked out of the hotel, MC. Oh, jeez. Yeah. Paulie was killing it, though. And you did all right there, I almost wore these plaid pants. I should've worn they would have been a good luck charm. Yeah. Fritzy, I was waiting for someone to expect me to have a tray of food to bring around to give everybody a something eat there that we were kind of up against the glass on in the back there. In a corner, when just wondering where everyone kind of taken glances at us wondering why we might be there. Yeah. Oh, you presenting. No, no, no, no. We're nominated over, really what category. Best daily studio show. We do three hours. Yeah. Take that half hour thirty those yeah. I got an idea I got the solution. We cut this showdown a half an hour a day. Boom. Dan? I can have it. Yeah. I like it. Yeah. Mclovin, I'm going to be the honor to be nominated guy. I do tell you. I thought we were gonna win, then you realize we're up against like three of the most famous shows and television history. Part of the interruptions goes down and sodas outside the lines. Yeah. I was like I was watching that real of, like, whoa, wait. Wait, wait. What are the other? What's the other show, I jump in MLB tonight or not two of the most famous well outside the lines and part of the part in the in the interruption may go down as one of them base? Absolutely. So in a way, I watch, I really like, whoa, we are amongst the titans. Give it those guys been male in it in for years now. I mean we, we, we, we have to get up and crank this out single now with get up wins before we do, then I retired. Get ups. Yeah. If get up wins than I just I walk. Forget it. Yeah. Forget it. I'm not doing this anymore. Yeah. Yes. For its. S P T. I read it out. Why was that a professional to that? You been my reaction. I got some dirty looks when that. Yes, we so what would the hug handshake situation of been? There would have been no hug with a rod. There would have been dapper Strahan would have been great because Strahan loves the show in loves you guys straighten Woody yelled out. A-rod I would have given a little dab. It might even been an air dab. Maybe not a full DEP but a Strahan. Absolutely. I think we're friends with right now paulinea right outta conversation. Does he know who you are? Not exactly conversation as we're leaving the building a rod was done presenting. And I think he was going back to the bar for a minute. And we walked right past each other, and there was a guy there with a stack of was lo there. No. Now with him at what we saw. So eight rods walk you pass us. And there's e- stack of trace or like eight feet high wind go yes secretary where he goes. So these tech trays on a cart. And they all spill as suze rod walks past, and they're all over the place. And I look back Alex, it wasn't me. It was just kidding. And then we help the guy pick him up. So that was our entire, that's your religion. Okay. But he did smile at us. He wasn't always smiling. Not when his security guards beat me up at a Super Bowl. I know he only had one security guard lesson. Yeah. But mclovin got roughed up by a rod security guard a couple years Super Bowl. Yeah. I will never let that go any beat the Phillies in two thousand nine would you of hugged him if we won listing? Yeah. Probably I would have been so happy. I think you might have even. No, no, no. I would adapt. I would've hugged Strahan and then been like, hey Alex, it's stuck out. My hand Bill. Hayden psych did like beer. Rubbed us at your hair thing. I was done that Dan Patrick show. The losing Dan Patrick show, brought to you by truecar they show you what other people paid for the car you want. You can recognize a good price. When you're ready to buy new or used car, visit truecar enjoy more confident car buying experience, eight not everybody hates you. They don't not everybody. But I told the Dan as they went what life was like, what, what did he say that to you? I don't know. I think things and then you say, how does someone and say, I think I think because it's awkward for people in this person, I have great respect for. I think he felt bad for his company and he was trying to break the ice, a little bit to say that not everybody hates me at a at a place. I once worked. Yes. But this is so many other ways to phrase that, you know, some of us, missed you here 'cause there's a lot of positive ways to, to word that just seemed like a weird venue to say something that had a very negative tinted. And I, I saw Tom Rinaldi? And he did not have a piano with him because wherever Tom is. There's usually a piano playing, and there's a really sad story but it was good to see. Tom rinaldi? Yeah. Guess you've come a couple of Melissa stark got see her last night, preceded full court press. Arca length. I know was fifteen minutes with fritzy, I see her body direction like he's trying to walk away, more than initiated the conference as 'cause she was talking to someone else and I tapped, her on the shoulder and I just kinda jumped right in there and didn't care that she was in the middle of a conversation with somebody, and she's really let herself go. You gotta hit the gym. Once you really, she's really. It's sad. Really? Yeah. It's like I hope she's ok. Yeah. Yeah. She looks like she's about, you know, thirty twenty five or four kids. Yeah, yeah. She really let herself go may, we all let ourselves go like that. All right. So we'll come up with a poll question stat of the day play of the day, Dale Earnhardt, JR. 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Yeah, just Google loser, in the song, title or in the lyrics, and probably going to hear that today, prince you just brought up a great point, which is rare. But fritzy your great point was my point is if this was PTI would be wrapping up in the next two minutes. Air half it on a train back to Connecticut. Yeah. Yeah. We did be done for the day. We have two and a half more hours, quick, happy trails. Happy birthday to this guy or is it a mission? Catches on I tunes. Knuckleheads we've a Canada flag or out. Yeah. Maybe we're doing something wrong here. They might have it figured out. Yeah. Oh, they do a half hour. I'd never met anyone who's in a better mood that Wilbad if you will, by the tail, we'll got a great life plays golf couple of homes in a couple of different cities. He's wearing a pair of cargo shorts he puts on a sport coat when he's PTI takes it off. Runs out the building, Mr.. Tony even is in usually a rare good mood Caisley. Yes, I'm surprised. It's not other shows with his two guys arguing back and forth like that. The railroad. Okay. They started. I'm yeah, teasing a little. Just kibitzing. We're, we're happy for pardon me off. We are where you are. And we'll bunch joining us from Toronto from candidates gonna come on the show. A little that's cool. What he's not. It's just a phone call. Like, oh my God. He's calling from Toronto. Country we've had people call in from New Zealand to make a dramatic is preparing for the bucks. And raptors. He's got other things to do at nine thirty in the morning. A lot of research. He's, he's well versed in the NBA world there. Okay. The warriors. Sweet the blazers Steph with a triple double. The big news yesterday was the Lakers. Introducing their new head coach Frank Vogel. And I think they did that just remind people that they did hire a head coach and it's not Jason Kidd, Jason Kidd. I don't believe was at the press conference. I thought maybe he had to, you know, the package deal that he would be there. But LeBron was there, but the drama continues, this is a franchise that has always had always had leaders. They are in desperate need of a leader right now. Magic johnson. He was on the first take program was Stephen a Smith in max Kellerman. And he started to napalm rob poll Inca here and I'll give you my thoughts on on what what magic was doing why he was doing. Here is magic on hearing, the whispers about himself in the Lakers organization. People around the Laker office was telling me. Rob was saying things, and rob Pelinka rapidly, not in, like those things being said behind my back. I wasn't in the office enough and so on. So I started getting caution my friends outside of basketball saying those things now were said to them outside of basketball now, not just in the Laker office anymore. Now is in the media, and so on the people you trust. Exactly. And people got to remember, something being in this business people or forty years. I got allies. I got friends everywhere. Okay. He also went on to explain to the guys. I take what this straw that broke the camel's back the straw of broke the camel's back was I wanted to fire Luke Walton, and we had three meetings. I showed her the things he did well and things he didn't do. Well, and I said, listen, we gotta get a better coach. I like him. He's great. Former Laker, the whole thing. So the first day well, let's thing about second day, okay? You can fire then the next day. No. We should try to work it out. So when we went back and forth like that, and then she bought Tim Harrison to the meeting, he wanted to keep them because he was friends with Luke Luke's, great guy. Great guy when I looked up and said, wait a minute. I only really answer to genius, now I got Tim in Vall. I said it's time for me to go. All right. The timing is not an accident magic knew that they were introduced Frank Vogel on Monday. And he decided that he was going to get out in front of this. He was going to give his side of the store. I understand the logic and the strategy. I thought it was selfish on Magic's part really do. Because if you care that much about the Lakers, there might be one person, you don't care about, and that's rob pulling. But the rest of that organization the fans the history of it, you did a disservice to that organization yesterday. You wanna say what you wanna say you wanna get out there and let people know what was going on. You had an opportunity to go in front of Jeanie Buss, because you said, you never told Jeanie Buss any of this. Why not if she's trusted, then go teller and say it's either him or me because I want to be here with this organization and it, you know you just brought him in and I'm hearing all these whisper about him as well. But. Okay. Luke Walton who brought in Luqun. Yep. But I wonder justify devil's advocate at magic is thinking. I know this is awkward. No, it's ugly. But who's rob Pelinka? I wonder if this is what magic things I've been a Laker for almost forty years, very successful. I know basketball. And if you're gonna if you hire me as present let me do my job don't say, I can fire coach one day, then tell me next day I can am I chartered rob Pelinka and I wonder magic. Thanks this. This guy's been here about fifteen minutes. I've been here almost four decades. I could see him thinking that right or wrong. But magic never done anything in that position that would warrant, you know, any extra longitude or latitude in my opinion, and rob Pelinka. You brought in an agent and it was Kobe's agent and people even speculated. Is that the right person to have in their agent? A former agent. It wasn't a good combination from the beginning. But magic is not read Orbach now he's not Jerry West in there. I think he's got. To understand what his limitations were as well. I don't think he was good in his job. But he did deserve more respect than he got from rob Pelinka, mclovin, just a distasteful to double down on how he wanted to fire Luke Walton who quote and did get I feel like that's kind of mean like he's going out of his way to wonderful. Yeah. Might be true. And I understand why he's doing it. But I think he was trying to walk everybody through what this season was I I'm guessing. But. You know, he went scorched earth here. But if you truly care about the Lakers, you can make this about, rob Pelinka, but you did it on a day when they introduced Frank Vogel. I you know, I was disappointed when I heard it but Magics and entertainer and you go on there and, and Steven is pressing him and asking questions about players players, he traded and LeBron would you trade? You know I understand that mean you have magic in there for an hour, and let's just go. Let's just start. Peppering him with questions and magic wants to entertain. And that's exactly what happened yesterday. There was a lot of great TV in there. I just didn't wanna see magic do that to the organization that he professes his love to if it's rob Pelinka. Okay, I'm just once again I go back to what I said, you desperately desperately need a leader in here in there were decades, where you never said that about the Lakers, you never said, well, they don't have a leader. There was always leadership there, and it just feels like there's some people who have more power than they should and have done nothing to deserve that power. That's where it's dangerous, if I'm. I always go back to if I'm a free agent, and maybe Anthony Davis doesn't care. Maybe it's a lifestyle change, and he wants to Los Angeles great. But if I'm a free agent if you're quite Leonard who doesn't like the big circus Jaanus, who doesn't like the big circus, the big city, you're not going into this situation. There's nothing enticing about this. And I think that's the dangerous part of this. That's the bigger takeaway is not. Hey magic feels scorn, you know that feels like that? He got stabbed in the I understand all of those things. But airing your laundry for everybody to see. And then these free agents where we have what a little over a month before they're gonna make a decision on what they're going to do. I don't know if you wanna go into that situation. I really don't gusts in Los Angeles. I guess welcome back. Good morning to think of taking my phone call. If you wanna quickly then again, on my Dunster five. What it is. Why isn't magic bringing up the fact of what he told genie? I, I'm here, but I also want to stay with other companies because they make me more money. Why don't we look at the president of basketball operations for the teams that are still in the running? You got bub Myers. You got you got the gentlemen in Toronto. You got me walking. You got Maury Bill guys had that those guys are all in on their organizations. They're not. Gus you got a bad phone call. You know, I looked at magic more of as a an ambassador. That that's how I would use him not to be making these decisions day today. And I don't wanna former agent making those decisions. I want somebody who is making or has made these decisions and made great decisions, not way. We're going to do something completely different. Okay. I love thinking outside the box there. But I also have also live in reality, and rob Pelinka did not have good reviews going into this job, because he's an agent and people don't trust agents. And then magic being in there was the all in. No, I don't think he was. And then Jeanie Buss genie always answered questions, always Jeanie Buss should've been out in front, yesterday and answered questions. And she doesn't do it. But but she she didn't do it, but get it done. Get out there and just say, hey, here's the deal, like show leadership. Let people hear leadership. We didn't we heard Frank Vogel. I mean that's not enough. You gotta hear people. You got to hear voices. You got to hear somebody who says this is what we're doing. We're not rudderless but boy, it certainly feels that way. And if you're LeBron James, are you going? What have I got myself into you can't even blame LeBron for this drama? Normally LeBron gets blamed for everything camp Lamey for this phone that that's the still the guy would love to hear interviewed an actual questions. And actually, I want to hear from genie buzz, I do, but I wanna hear LeBron's opinion of what the past year is where it is now. And unvarnished I know his show, the you know, the haircut joint, or whatever it is great. But I don't think you're gonna get an honest answer from you genius is always been forthcoming and that's what you needed yesterday. You really needed to Chris in Los Angeles. I chris. Morning, Dan, real quick. I wanted to give you a little viewpoint. And I'll try to be really quick. First of all, Jenny Beth, I think is being a fairly compared to her father, who was an incredible innovator whatnot. And, you know, Jim couldn't do it genie's having issues with that. So I think that's one thing to look at also you know we a lot of fans they do support magic. They think that he did a pretty good job as a gentleman. Well, whatever president of operations, you know of if it were not for the injury, the Lakers, probably would have made the playoffs there in the number four two games from number three. When the Bronwyn down. So overall, he did a pretty good job. Like you said he I don't know if he's a are back or, or Jerry West, but he did a pretty good job, initially. So a lot of this, I think, is somewhat bad timing, his part, but he does get a lot of support here. And I think I think like be okay because I think. Chris if magic didn't have as basketball resume as a player. What would you think about Magic Johnson in the role that he had is the president of basketball operations again? I think what he did was great. He got them to the fourth spot, the they're almost in third spot. If LeBron doesn't go down. I don't think we're having this issue, and I think Jerry West are in that position and the Lakers ended up how they did at the end of the season. People wouldn't be looking at it the way did he admitted. I mean really the only bad move was was the brook Lopez and maybe not making the Kate. They Detroit go through. But apparently that might have been because the rob Pelinka's relationship with the manager managers of the NBA. So I think if you look at it as, if just objectively, he, did he job compared to how the Lakers word last season. I mean I don't know how to get around that. All right. Well, thank you, Chris. They haven't made the playoffs in what six years. Okay. So there there's a lot of blame to go around. I just didn't wanna see magic do this to the organization that he helped build and made great. And I understand there's one person and look, I speak from experience because they were people that I did not like at the mothership, but I did love the mothership. You know, do go scorched earth with talking about a couple of people that nobody really cares about. And then you discredit the place you used to work. And you know what I had those emotions for decade, you know. But magic has every right to feel this way he does. I just didn't wanna see. That's, that's what I want you to understand. I didn't wanna hear that from him. And that that's what we got yesterday for hey, in Los Angeles, or hey, I work. Hi, dan. Sorta. Yeah. So are you doing? I think magic is doing this for him to buy the Lakers. Can you say? He's a businessman he making them look bad. And then just coming out and just coming just the purchasing just to magic. Well, but he did say or hey, that the Lakers are a gold mine. So if you're the bus family, and, you know, you have a gold mine, why would you sell the gold mine? The, the thing that I told you about I was in Los Angeles little over a week ago and talking to somebody who's involved in this situation said, keep an eye on the minority owners and their role in all of this, because there is pressure from inside for the bus family to sell whether that happens or not, I don't know if we're at that point right now but, you know is genie capable of doing this. Yes, I do I do think she is. But you must surround yourself with the right people. And as much as I may have friends, I really like I have to have people that I trust who can make great basketball decisions. And that's what would make me nervous in this situation. Do you have the infrastructure there to help you when you delegate, there's nothing better than delegating? And somebody comes back and then they pay off. You know, when you delegated them they paid off tenfold. But this situation like Kurt Rambus is the one who probably hired Frank Vogel. Do I want do I one Kurt Rambis hiring Frank Vogel? And then I gotta bring in Jason Kidd, and then we didn't get Tyler because we wouldn't give him two more years. But then there's also report that Tyler was going to have to bring in Jason Kidd didn't want to like, that's not what the Lakers do. That's not who they are. But that's what they've become right now. And magic in that role. You got to be all in, in that role. And I think when you're not all in that role than people have there's openings to take shots at you. And that's what happened with magic. He's a great businessman, but he knows as a businessman. You have to be all in, when you're doing business, and I don't think he was, but that doesn't mean that other people that organization handled their roles as well and rob Pelinka he was whispering behind his back. I can understand where Magic's going dude, you've been here less than two years. And I've been here, forty years, and you're going to say what you're saying about me that. When Jeanie Buss needs to say, rob magic, come on in. Let's, let's hammer this out hash it out. Now, let's talk can can we both work together? Can you both work together because if not, then I gotta make decision here if you guys can't be grownups. I have to make a decision and one of you is not going to be back. And I think we know who that person is who won't be back. We'll take a break back after this play the day more phone calls. Dan Patrick show. Okay. This is just a thirty second commercial and I'm gonna throw a lot of numbers that you please. Please stay with me and just fifteen minutes. You could save fifteen percent or more on car insurance, the company that has been offering great rates and great service for seventy five years. It's gyco. 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Humans are wired to focus on obstacles and things that are going wrong. Instead of things are going. Right. That's how they revive in the wild so you focus on losing more. They said specifically the human mind focuses on the losing the winds. You just move right path. And then you say this is all going wrong with me in the pet is your mind is wired to solve problem. Well, you'd think you're going to win or at least you try to train yourself to think you're going to win if you're good enough, you get in a position where you think you're going to. I don't think that, you know, any professional athlete goes into some kind of event going. Oh, what if I lose, or I might lose? I think you always have to be thinking, even when I would gamble and I would win money. I didn't I didn't appreciate or you know saver. Moment. But when I lost, then it was devastating. And, you know, I, I would think the losing part that, that emotion stays with you. Even when you win. And I know you move onto the next thing yet fast. Yes, you've always been like that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But, like getting nominated I expect us to get nominated. I didn't expect for us to lose. Yeah. What would be more frustrating or upsetting if they had the ranking of how the finish went from first to fifth place with the with the nominees if we came very close second? Or if we somehow we're voted in as the last place person, I would rather not. No. I just preferred if think because both of them are painful, I mean, second, we almost one to v Wade, no chance to win this thing. Either way now. And it's like how could we possibly be last? Yeah. Now, I wouldn't wanna know Wally in Ohio. Hey, wally. Would you have for me? Dan, just wanted to say a few things about this mythic Jetson situation. Can you board anybody there, tell me what success, he's had in the NBA after his playing days were over? 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HR 2: National Radio Day

Mason & Ireland

49:12 min | 2 months ago

HR 2: National Radio Day

"Yeah yeah you know what. You're not really getting to me. You're not really getting under my skin. You need reggae man. He's basically i think his his attack there was it's personal and because you don't go to his events and then it's also that you're not as important as the other shows. This is the by the way that part of it is trash. That is a trash common. But i i'm the one guy that went out and learned the game of golf from scratch to play one tournament against ireland. I've been working on this for months. Now tell me somebody else is willing to go out and do this by the way when i get back. I only have ten days until the man me. If you're if you don't know john ireland deny or playing a heads up golf match at black gold is part of our big seventeen. Espn golf tournament at black gold on september the tenth and john is giving me twenty six strokes and i would argue. Not enough not enough. If you've seen my game not enough might be better now because you'll be rested and relaxed after costa rica. You know what my goal is junior. Speak credible yeah to just hit the ball like you're supposed to go all get it in the air which i'm doing gamma games. I'll just try to make it. Non suck exactly all right so christopher alice. I'll i'll say this about chris who am obviously having a war with right now. Our house is that he understands the importance of radio So mom it's national radio day. So when i was a little kid mama you can put on the old time music here when i was a little kid all i wanted was to be on the radio and when i was fifteen years old i went to a station called w. g. Or and. i said. I wanna buy five minutes of radio every single day from you. I wanna do a five minute sports gas and they should say they said sure. We'll do it. Kid will say this five minutes and you can do it on a couple of system from your bedroom every day. So i did it. I went out and sold the advertise able to pay for the five minutes here allen's leeway and actually made a little money. That's exactly what alan has done with his career exactly. I have always loved radio. It's really been my passion. And my love and i hate when people say. Oh radios dying. Radio's not what it used to be a radio. Here's the thing about radio. There is no more intimate means of communication. Then radio right now. There's somebody in their car listening to us. Have this casual off the cuff conversation. That doesn't happen in television in the same way so a while back i went in and i met with a program director i did. I did two and a half years of tv at fox. I did good the la. And i did We in sports. And all that stuff. So i i have my experience television and one time. I sat down with the program director and she said. Do you have any regrets in your career. And i said well and she said. Do you wish you would've been done more tv. Should absolutely not. I do not wish i would have done more. Tv tv was not a passion. Tv was not love tv honestly doing weekend sports on a tv station. You're just reading words. There's nothing contemporaneous about it. There's nothing intimate about it it. You're just reading words and showing highlights. It's a skill but it's not as hard as going on the radio. Were angry and talking for three hours. Momo you've had this experience right. Yeah i think that i am my best self on radio i do too. I think that on tv. I just come across. I mean. I'm not saying i'm bad but i don't think that i can. I seem like myself as much because what you're saying is twenty seconds of information or reaction rather than three hours of just letting it rip have. There's way more honesty and the way. I approach radio especially in the last Decade i is. You know. I've i've just i've learned from some of the greats. I've listened to howard stern for years and years. And i've learned that he put stuff out there in an honest and real way and the people react to that. And i you know. I've talked about talked about Bipolar disease i've talked about being gay. Came out as gay. I mean all that stuff. All that stuff is just laying it all out there in a really honest way and you don't get that in a personal way from television moment. I saw you on the jump today. And i agree with you completely. You're fantastic on the jump but you're better and honest and more real on radio. Absolutely i agree with that. And i think there's very few people who can be as the best version of themselves on television rather than radio. It's just the format yes just. You're you're a guest or your host but the format does not always lend itself to showing who you are and your personality you have to really be on air as like a Rachel maddow type host. Right you're really hosting the program yourself in it's all about larry. King is a guy that i think you probably know more from tv because that womack oh yeah that that lends itself to it but To me with radio. I have a have a this is the best way to put it. where you got that wendy williams clip hold the wendy williams. When when this happens on television it's a mistake and when that happens on radio we do it on purpose and we laugh and we don't have to apologize for it afterwards so matter time she's not lonely and then what does she say i apologize. I apologize apologize on radio. We're like yeah that's that's great. You don't get that day of the ireland choking clip. You don't get this on television. Everybody so like polish stop. And i'll give you thirty seconds on the lakers scheduler forty five seconds on russell westbrook or whatever that happens to be on the jump which you do incredibly well ramona thinking but stuff on here is real and it's honest you have the john ireland choking one standing by styling joking when it is one of my favorites. That happened while i wasn't here. But and people will point out. Mistakes get made and i always. I always say you know what try talking off. The top of your head for three old are going to be mistakes. It's almost like at the end of the show. There should be a a real of all the things that god said wrong or correctly or slightly. You know what this is a. That's a good example. Pardon the interruption that one of the longest running shows on. Espn up one of the best. The best shows on espn. Because it's a it's a buddy show. It's two guys who get along really. Well michael wilpon tony kornheiser. And they're just talking sports at the end of the show at the end. Hey let's do the department of corrections. Tell us the stuff we messed up. Exactly exactly they do. They do that. john ireland. While i was not here having trouble with a joking but right now. Caller number seven wins a pair. Those tickets excuse me eight. Seven seven seven ten. Espn mason and ireland. Espn la got through it. Though didn't he. I think we should just take mason and ireland. Espn and use that as the drop. Because it's so messed up. No i think it's the colored over seven. Caller number seven wins win. I didn't know what to do by the way when i'm gone. Do you guys goof on figured well by the way Roast every day this became the question for the next eight. If somebody's choking on the air for you help me with you question. Do you have the one. Where where masons Carmax dropped out. And i had the open. I know how i can reenact that reenact that hello hello. Is anybody there. Caller number seven wins so apparently sticking. And i wanna i wanna get your input. Lindsey an jorges you linda. You've been in radio for a long time. You've worked in a variety of ways in radio. What is what's what's the celebration of radio like for you. Probably most of the thing like most of the things that you guys said. I will say that. I think podcasts are just as intimate as radio if not more because it with podcast. You're choosing your time. I mean it's the same. It's national radio national park. I'm going to say it's the same thing. Same podcast or taping recorded radios right. You're right it's live. But i'm saying like it's podcasts. Come from radio derived from radio. I guess you could say radio has shifted into audio and there are podcasts. But again i point out or hey you've been in radio for a long. Yeah yeah to me. It's it's just the magic that we make like people don't know what i'm doing back here. Yup like i know. But i paint a picture like we help paint a picture for people out there driving around and if they're having a bad day we put a smile on her face when you're driving around and you're sitting in traffic and you worried about whatever's going on in your life right. This is your twenty minutes to just totally escape. Find out a little of what's going on and listen to john. Ireland choke or whatever pastime than our job is and. I can't even tell you how many times i'm driving. How often do i text you. And i'm just driving around all all the time. I'm the same. When i'm driving around. And i hear something on travis leeway tax driving around here something on sodano and cap i tax. I mean i'm a big fan of the station. Big fan of the show. Big fan of radio. I think everybody here does a really good job. I still think we should have the billboards at suffice stadium about range. I'm not gonna let that go. Under any circumstances. I anticipate that they will be there for the rams opener against the bears sunday night football but i. I do think that you know for everybody. That's listening in their car right now in particular and i've heard from since the pandemic started so many drivers depended dynamic. Whether it's uber or lift or post mates or grub hub all these ease where i get. My. we'd all so many drivers who are out there so just letting you know that we appreciate you. I don't care you're moaner urine zoo. Sorry you're an hunga or wherever you happen to be. We are happy to be here for you and we appreciate radio and hopefully you do two things for other people who tweet us. I like that during the show. Yeah the tweets are grand. Joey ceo tweet you often and listen every day. You don't always show me love but that's cool seriously. Though i listen. I feel like we get to know all of you be more because of radio. You're so one hundred correct. Love seven ten. La there you go. Kelly washington who's doing tv now really well channel one spectrum one. He says i agree with you about radio. I love tv. But there's nothing like the clubhouse and locker room feel of radio you're able to find your voice and connect like no other medium people cling to radio. Yeah kevin kevin really good here. I don't know why they got rid of them. Just just as an aside are listening. Yeah i know i know. I like alvin. Dewey does really a job in their. He's point is honesty right. Honest anything else. I want to ask you coming up. I want to ask you question about the new tesla robot. Have you seen it you know. What else happened on radio super random questions like that when asked about the new testament robots hookah random. I also i also want to ask you about the mike richards if you have missing my richards who almost appointed himself the host and he indicated that. Yeah he dick cheney that he said. I'm gonna have a big. I'm the executive producer. We're going to do a big search for host of jeopardy to replace alex becton. Oops it's me look. It's me so all kinds of stuff came out on mike richards and today. He officially stepped down withdrew. His name from consideration to replace. Alex trebek's now. I've got a bunch of stuff that went on and i i wanna sorta lay it out and see what we think about. In total and by the way he stepping down as host of jeopardy. He's not stepped down as executive producer of jeopardy. At least not as of this moment. So i wanna get into kind of what he did and what he said so prices right model brandy cochran in two thousand ten so this eleven years ago accused richards of fire because she had become pregnant and had difficult pregnancy. Another suit filed in two thousand eleven by prices right model the nisha coal asserted that she was wrongfully terminated and subject to harassment on the set of the long running game show. Richards was dismissed as plaintiff in coal suit. In two thousand thirteen. The case was settled out of court for eight million dollars now. The ringer went through and they found a podcast that he did in two thousand twelve and two thousand thirteen. This was his own podcast and here is here is a summary of kind of the offensive stuff that he said richards. Comments included calling his female co host a booth derogatory term for modeling. Cas that's computer electronics. Show in vegas and seeming to make a jewish stereotype joke after somebody else made a comment about big noses. Richards reportedly said ixnay on the os. Nee she's not an j. the ad l. Has the name of this podcast. This is the best. I don't have that exactly in front of me. Lindsey can you find it. It's like the dumb podcast that among other comments richards made on this podcast calling. His co host friends really frumpy and overweight. They all look terrible. They look fat and not good. He reportedly used a derogatory word for little people and a derogatory term for the mentally disabled and twice singled out white male hosts for prey seemingly. Because they were white and male he said jeff probst had a daytime talk show which i was cheering for because i like you know the average white guy host in another moment. Richards reportedly described himself as this. This may be the most disqualifying thing of all. He described himself as horrible. All trivia and said. I would never even gotten onto jeopardy all that stuff. Momo i want to get your reaction to it next. Was it necessary for him to step down based on stuff and comments and stuff that happened a decade ago or should he have stuck it out. That's coming up next for you. Mason ireland seven ten. Espn so yeah. We'll record those little promos. Yeah that run. You know promoting the show. And yesterday i would i. I'm not taking the fall for that moment. I thought we care for. Were gonna use that against you. Bring the truth is like normally my role on any show. I'm on is to fill permitted unbelievable. I mean today. I was on the today as on jump and we had a little i was on with me andrews who's hosting men and was coming on set during the segment like there was a part where somebody was on. They had to get up in the middle of the segment so he was supposed to come on during the second which is hard to do on live tv. You don't want to see so. They had to kind of get the camera off of him while he came on and melita very widely instead of it today right away so he could sit down. You can get his his microphone on yada yada. She just tossed it to me out of the blue. I was like. Oh it's me what we're about again but you know i can fill lebron. I can say something. I don't have to have anything. We're filling i think wherever conversation do promos. It's against type. I'm not supposed to fill on the promo. I'm just supposed to react and say such as where you have to fill the promo then if i try to fill. It's too long all right. Well we'll try it again today. It's just against hype. it's against my and morale. She had to do better than that. If you wanna get under my skin man. He's just me play nice. I wanna see the game. I mean i'm waiting for the game. The real the the roast. The roast was the roast. I wish we had on tape. And my script. You're you were great at my my road. I want to go back to the jeopardy thing so to summarize. Mike richards was fired. A pregnant woman who was having a difficult. Pregnancy was filed suit against Also another asserted. She was wrongfully terminated subject to harassment on the set of the long run game show. Richards was dismissed as plaintiff. It was an eight million dollars. Settlement so that goes back to two thousand thirteen His podcast from two thousand twelve and two thousand thirteen talked about women looking terrible Looking fat not good used. A derogatory term for the mentally disabled singled out white male hosts for praise. All that stuff by the way and described himself as never would have gotten a chance to be on. Jeopardy batted trivia. So all that stuff did he do the right thing. Was it necessary for him to step down. I think so nobody. Nobody embrace that choice. Literally the it. I think there was no no one said. Yeah that's a great hire like the whole point of hiring somebody who didn't have a big name in the industry. Like you know the odds aaron rodgers and lavar burton brought it all these big names the whole point. Is that if you choose somebody who already has really famous it's something else you're you could alienate people or you could They could have some baggage or some association with something else and you just want to have brand new jeopardy host who can make his name as he jeopardy host. Well that's completely not what happened right. He became the guy that no one wanted and everyone he was the inside guy. He's the inside guy. And i feel bad for him but i mean. There's there was a part about in the ringer story that i thought was really interesting. And i'll summarize it okay but what they were basically saying was there was a longtime executive producer who stepped aside in the last. Few months of of alex trebek's time there and after they hired richards to replace him there was a sense that sony pictures who does the show kind of stayed away from jeopardy they just kinda let that longtime executive producer and alex back run the show do nothing and when that longtime executive producer stepped away and then richards came in. It seemed like he and sony took a much bigger role in things and it also seemed like they were interfering a little bit. It was called the random show by the way that was the name of the rand dump. Joan yes spelled r. and d. you want sounds like it was sounds fruited But anyway so why is it. Richard became the executive producer of jeopardy wheel of fortune. May of two thousand twenty succeeding longtime chief harry freedman right They bring in one hundred twenty five million dollars in profit a year long will fortune so they kinda stayed out of it but when he stepped aside and richards came in. Then there was the pandemic there was a real power. Vacuums richards was only there A few months with alex reich. Wasn't there all the time and we had that caller who who called sort of the when they hired him he was supposed to be the guy that that was part of the deal and it was either. He's either going to be the host of wheel of fortune or jeopardy. Whichever host retired. I stopped working. I okay well. i think we're side. I mean that's the point. The point is sony started. Meddling yeah it. It was not a lot of the longtime staffers. The people who made jeopardy what it was left right that. I'm i'm talking about workings of sony and more talking about actually what he did. And so you got it right lindsey. I just think it's funny because we all right. All right i get it i get your sony. Did something inside all that stuff. But i'm talking about the stuff he said in the stuff he did. Okay to cancel them. I guess which which dates back to dates back to two thousand and twelve thousand thirteen to lawsuits one. He was dismissed from the other was settled for seven million dollars out of court. This podcast the rand dumb. Podcast said a bunch of stuff. Is that a in two thousand twelve. Two thousand thirteen was right for him. To step down wasn't necessary firm to step down hundred percent like there's nobody who who embraced him as the host. This is a long time beloved franchise. And i i feel bad. I mean he's he's been publicly smeared here and i never wished that anybody leaser. These are facts. I mean you can't say publicly smeared this stuff you actually said and stuff actually did actually said and dead. Yeah and it's not your we have stuff in our contracts that it's if you do things to publicly embarrass the company right publicly embarrassed your show and it will hurt the network or whatever place that works for you. Can they can remove you from the show. Yeah i mean it's a public facing forum. I mean sometimes you can. You could stay behind the scenes but when you were the face of the show. Yep you just can't like if you got arrested for drunk driving you. He'll be fired. Okay yeah that's part of our contest. No question and by the way rightfully so rightfully so I don't know what do you think don't condone that at all. Yeah i was necessary for him to step down it out of control. The ringer story really did him in the comments on that Podcast from two thousand twelve and two thousand thirteen on top of everything that we already knew. I think doomed him. Lindsey what do you think. I think it's kind of ridiculous. That they even bothered to like formally announce him. Because i think when they were you know there was reports out there and we were like. Oh maybe they're just putting the feelers out there and there was nothing but negative backlash about him reportedly being named the new host and then like three or four days later they they announced it and i just think it was stupid for them to announce it then because this is very predictable and i think we all kind of saw this coming so i'm confused. Why they even bothered in the first place why the why tended like the caller that we had was right. They probably why didn't they vet him it. You know one of the things that i thought the ring story made it pretty good. Point was it didn't matter if it was ju- jeopardy or wheel fortune you just wanted to be a game show host but to fans of jeopardy. It matters a whole lot. You gotta love trivia. Like even the i don't love trivia i suck at trivia to me. It's like you're not the right guy. Alex trebek's cleaned up on on jeopardy smart. But but i. I do think that this is the right move and i hope he keeps his job as executive producer. Like this is stuff you said an podcast in two thousand twelve two thousand thirteen was. I mean it's wrong then it's wrong now but it's a long time ago. And if we all got held to what we said in two thousand seven or two thousand twelve a lot of other people would probably be in trouble. This guy. Just got combed over. Because he was named the new host of jeopardy and he wasn't popular. Now lindsey you think lavar burton is now the obvious choice right. I think they should've picked him in the first place. And i think if they continue on with this search or if they don't pick him i just think it makes them look like jerks. Who was who was the lady that alex recommended. Who never even got an audition. Yeah never got an issue. He also recommend alex faust. Who's a play by play guy wings and never got a chance to audition. I think i think lavar burton is probably the most popular guy was the most popular host. He's got a huge groundswell of people that love him. So i think that's the easy way. And he only got. He only got one week in his which was basically one day opposite so a lot of people didn't get to see him because of that I think lavar burton is going to be the guy. I think he's a fan favorite. And i think he's going to be the guy i home. Mike richards does and who. I've worked with in full disclosure. I i did a show with mike. Richards at a place called the reels channel. I always found him to be a totally decent guy. I didn't know. Obviously all this other stuff but i hope he keeps his job as executive producer. I don't think he should be wiped out of the world crossed off cancelled completely. Yeah i can't culture that way. But i will say this You know who i can i can. I rep sh for somebody publicly. That privately hasn't gotten a little love. Tony rally oh. He'd be great. I love tony really yeah. Yeah he'd be great. Come on he should get an audition. Yeah he's great. He does around the horn. Your really good at that format. It's really great improv guy. I think that's a good idea. Throw tony rayleigh out there as a possibility. I coming up next for you. The lakers schedule is out. Who i wanna play the game. You know the game okay. The this is a win. This is a loss. Oh i love that game to see how we go for this lower. First twenty games of the season we will go through and figure out what we think. The lakers record will be at the end of twenty games. Plus i do want to ask you about tesla's new humanoid robot please do i will mason and ireland. Seven ten espn. Well that's not even a slam. Of course we love radio. Tinder radio tenders one of my favorite parts of the show. Trying to point out that it's not the host whose name is on the show is the best segment of the show. I think china energy. What do i believe in more than anything else team. It's all about teams okay. You don't believe it's all about teammates. It's all about you. Let's be serious. I mean it's all about team so you're were or is it all about me or is it all about team. I would say that it is all about the team as long as you're getting the best shots. Well i'm the boss of the teams coach. Yeah mason and ireland. I get correct comes first by the way. Do you know that my comes first. And he gets one dollar more niessen. That's the way the contractors struck. That's how you're supposed to say right. Nice yeah i lakers for the twenty twenty one twenty. I love this game. I'm excited so we're gonna play a game. You have to keep track of yourself. God wins and losses. So we're going to go through. The first twenty lakers games and we are going to say what we think. The record will be at the end of twenty okay. I have a pen and paper excellent so they open up at golden state win or lose when momo's got that as a win. I've also got that win on opening night. Thompson claim will not playwright. Yeah he's not going to be back to on christmas oto christmas okay. Home to phoenix days later is at. It's three days later. It's a sunday. Yeah i'll say when to. I've got him to go home to memphis. How many days later two days later. Let's let's be. Yes that's a win win. okay at san antonio. I think that's a win okay. I'll go with you at oklahoma city. Second night back. I'll throw in a loss. Only i want there to be one loss in the back toback. Okay well i'm gonna go win so five now i've got him four and one. Okay cleveland at home. That's a win win. Houston in a back to back. I'm sorry houston not an tobacco. Houston on halloween at staples center. That's a win win. Houston again at staples center on a november second. That's another i think. Houston we'll probably steal one of those two all right. What are you gonna go. You're the only one that thought that i thought could be a loss. Was maybe that memphis game. I think memphis feels like it could be a loss homo casey. I think that's a win. An god this is easy schedule at portland. They always have trouble of loss. Y'all give him a loss their seven three only charlotte. It will be a fun game but the lakers will win lamelo mall at staples center. Yep miami at home. I'm going to give that a lot to minnesota at home. I'm going to give that a win. Win yep san antonio home. I'm gonna give that a win win chicago at home. I'm going to give that a loss that'll be the first home loss. I think i'm gonna give that a win now. What i wanna point out here. They have their first fifteen games. Twelve of them or at home. Yeah you pay the price on the back end. Twelve of their road games. And then they go on this road trip. And we'll just go to twenty at milwaukee. I've got that as a loss. Yeah i'll say at boston. I'll say we win at detroit. Say we win win at the knicks. I'll say loss. I'll give them a loss to at indiana. That's a win win. Okay so i got them a very realistic fourteen and six in their first twenty. What are you have five losses. So you've got him thirteen and fifteen and fifteen and five fifteen and five sounds pretty. That's you talk me into one of those early games as a as a just a random loss in their kind of randomly there. There could be a loss in there that you just don't expect it. Yeah memphis is pretty good. I can beat them. I just think. Twelve of the i fifteen at home gives you a huge running start really does which is important because you have the oldest team in the leak so you got to get off to a fast aren't so that you can rest. The old guys down the stretch by the way our last fourteen on the road. Yeah so twelve. I fifteen at home. Eleven of their last fourteen on the road. So you do pay for it and the road schedule down. The stretch looks looks tough. Dallas at utah. Home you're then you get at phoenix at golden state at denver. That's a rough run on the road at the end at dallas at utah at phoenix at golden state at number really rough because at that point those those teams that you mentioned that feels like the top of the western conference. Does that sounds like the. They're definitely all inker position. That's tough. I tweeted out the entire schedule a little bit earlier. They do have fort sorry. They have twelve back this year. Twelve backpacks two of them are home back to back which are easier. We're back to eighty two games back to eighty two First time in a couple. Yeah yeah that's right that's right. Do you think by the way. The short time between the end of last season and the start of this season. Because i mean. We're really only well. I think it helps the lakers. Because they are out in the first round so you think it helps the lakers to start sooner yeah. So here's here's something. Somebody mentioned the other day. We're still a couple of months away. From when the lakers won the championship in orlando from like the one year anniversary. That's crazy. I mean he hasn't been too right so it was october. Something twenty twenty. One was october first dish or something. This year the seasons could open. I think on the eighteenth nineteenth so it's just over a year from one year anniversary. Isn't that crazy. So they've played three seasons in two years. Yeah see i a couple of months away from that meets. I still think we're gonna have a year. That's filled with injuries. Just not off season although okay so there's only four players on the team now that we're on the team last year. Is that right only four players. So it's lebron a d. t. h. t. and mark assault mark saw navy won't even be mark that's tough. That's that's the toughest part of rob lincoln's job. Yeah and he's tried to put the right pieces around this core and there's not much that resembles the twenty three four. I guess if you can't dwight howard own right. Yeah but i mean you've got to assemble an entire new roster around these guys every single year and you've got to find guys that are willing to play for the minimum and they were able to do that and if you take the shooter's that they brought in i'm gonna include carmelo in that group because he's not forty one percents from three last year and really did well in his role in portland as a group. They shot thirty seven percent as a team. The shooter's that they brought in so wayne ellington kendrick nunn and Who who am. I missing kendrick. Nunn wayne ellington campus. More that group carmelo shot thirty seven and monique mug. Shot thirty seven percent from three. So that's a huge improvement. Last year. We were twenty first in three point shooting and it it went completely south. Once we got to the playoffs. The shooting was absolutely awful. They shot twenty nine percent from three fruit on that last series when we got eliminated. So they've got to improve their shooting. And i think rob pelinka is taking the right steps to do it coming up next for you. As christopher said the most popular segment on mason ireland. I couldn't be prouder of our friend. Lindsay fulton who kills it every single day. Radio tinders coming up next for you mason ireland seventeen. Espn if by now you do not follow lindsay on instagram. I really question why you bother living every day. Whoa lindsay is the follow of all time lindsay. How do people follow you on instagram. At lindsey baseball excellent am. I selling it up appropriately. I might have been a little to much more. I think. I think i kind of liked it better when you may you make fun of me for being annoying about it. I'm going up and going over. The top is really annoying bit. It was a good okay. It's coming back lindsey baseball. What are you got all right so a viral. New york times headline published wednesday asked. Are you ready for sentient. Disney robots and based on twitter. The answer kind of seems to be note so walt disney is in the process of developing hyper realistic free roaming robot versions of beloved characters to populate the grounds of its parts the creations are slated to have cameras and sensors. Let them make on the fly choices about what they do and say but while disney executives see the boxes away to intrigue younger generations in stay relevant. Some people are a little bit more to the. I think they see them as terrifying. Guess yup do you like the idea of disney's sentient robots roaming the park swipe luster swipe. Right i'm going to swipe bright and it layers in with the story about ilan mosque and his new human made humanoid robot that he's working working in the end it's supposed to be. Robots can replace people with monotonous jobs yet Boring jobs dangerous jobs. And i would say that being a mascot. Don't you think having a big foam head on your head and wearing a goofy costume. Don't you think that's a job that we can all live without in there so robots. They're not really. You mean those those people that run around disney. They're not real. It's not really rela. I'm sorry i if there are any kids listening. They're real if they're not listening. Then that is somebody in a sweaty costume sweaty and that's scary. I'm not afraid of this robot apocalypse that everybody is. I don't think having sentient robots is as dumbo or whatever mascots they over there princesses all that stuff i. I don't think that's dangerous. I think those are annoying job. Somebody's working but annoying jobs. If you can get a robot to get a robot to do it you know. I think people need jobs. People do need jobs people doing jobs but annoying like that's an annoying job and probably a lot easier for disney have sentient robots to it. I guess like i try. I was like one of those jerks tries to talk to the characters. I'll go and i'll see you. Oh god i know. I thought the one that goes to To london and tries to get the guys with the big furry hats talk to you. I'm not gonna lie. i did. I mean i wouldn't do that now but like in my twenties. I thought that was really funny. Close in the brain of the guy with the big fuzzy hat who. You're trying to interrupt. Shut up stupid. American stupid american stupid in american. So original lindsey. How do these robots at disneyland. I think it sounds really cruel. Especially if they're able to interact with you based on what you do and say but ramona has a point. I think i mean there's people that probably dream their whole lives of being a disney princess. And then they get a job at disney. Were they get to walk around and act like they're really cinderella or snow white. And i don't know i feel like especially in those like you know like the personal like the human characters. Those people should probably still princesses because you see their faces and all that stuff they should probably say. Stay the same. How do you feel about stupid questions to siri. What do you mean you're going on. Ask siri you know. Like high sierra What does the menial life. Hey sir what is the meaning of life harmon. Some extra love three or family. Your did you hear that for yourself. That's what here that the meaning of life to do it again. No i heard i heard of it. Yeah i mean just ask syria. I mean it's kind of fun. They program syria to say things. Maybe it's about doing things that make you stop wondering what life is all about and instead just start enjoying life for what it is. That's a good answer but who is siri to tell me that. Who told siri. Tell me that obviously apple. You've completely lost me. you've lost me two more. I don't know the point is is. Cinderella is essential human back to the show. No okay what. I'm saying what i'm getting at is. It's a fun game to play with. Siri does see what she'll say but i don't. It's not a real person talking to you. So i don't wanna say hey cinderella and it's a robot cinderella say something weird and then who tells her what to say. I mean he's kinda weird piece of advice when you have a story also have a point. It makes it so much easier for this. The point the point is i. It's not a real okay. All right you get it all right scrapie sentient robots talking back to me okay. So a man is receiving criticism for expecting his future wife to take his last night he asked read. It's am i the whole vice and it did not go over well from the man wanted his fiancee to take his last name and she refused the request because she said the paperwork is an enormous hassle he still fodder on the issue and refused to drop it. He opposed her choice because he doesn't want his family name. Today out is the man the a-hole swipe left or swipe right. Oh he's definitely the he'll come on. he's he's the whole. But i feel for them. I mean i'm glad. I've got three brothers. I've got two brothers right. Two of us are gay and one of them is straight. And i'm glad that the name will carry on in my brother's kids and grandkids and all that stuff that the michelle ski name will not go away but i kind of understand why this guy would want his name to continue but no he is the hall as somebody who did not change her name which got married It was It was you know like my husband. Said he was okay with initially and then when it got down to it. We went down to the courthouse. You're supposed to fill out the marriage license. And he was like. I think you kinda hit him there. Little upset And and then. There was one time where i was like. Well you know and we have kids. You'll have your last name. and he. He liked that idea says dial but i. I felt really strongly about this. I was like this is this is patriarchy at its finest how. 'bout you take my name. How do you feel about that. Combine our names like this is my name's been my name for my whole away. So did you not take nevins last name. Rain not ramona barrett. No no no real ramona. Shelburne it's not and i don't even. I'm not even going to pretend that it was a professional thing. I just think that that is a weird old vestige of the patriarchy that i don't think women should have to change their names. It just because it looks cleaner when you have kids or something or is it all can be the the you know. Whatever your last name is i am if your guy who feels really strongly about that consider how would feel if you're woman said you will find. Just take my name so we can have the same last kind of standard issue like triarc brandon. Take your name. She took it. But i didn't make her. She did it by choice. she did. she chooses that. That's cool married. Would you take the other person's name. I don't know it depends. I don't have strong feelings about it either way. I honestly like i guess thinking about like what ramona said. I don't know. I don't think that i'm going to get married but if i did i'd probably keep my name because then what if it doesn't work out up at my mom's situation. She's still as my dad's last name and she said it's such a huge pain in the butt to get switched back to her name because you have to change literally everything my family my name certificate and yeah and then you have to get like. It's just a big pain in the. But i don't feel like what's the point is a pain in the but i've had friends that had that too it's like you change it once and then now you're like three. It's like changing your phone number. You know how big deal this. Yeah now anybody will ever find me my correct and you don't even know your own number so like if you change your phone number and i know my own number. The numbers that i know by heart are mine. I almost said the number. I'm jacob ronnie eight four four twenty four jacob eight seven year mirror audio video to thirty forty eight seven seven seven ten. Espn and i think that's it. That's the extent of the numbers of that. I remember is pretty good though couldn't reach wanted to save my life but if i need to call lynch more one more so i'm sure you guys saw the big hullabaloo about this. Yesterday only fans is trying to tone down some of their more sexually explicit content on the site to attract investors. So they announced that the sites gonna go. It's going to block all sexually explicit content which is basically all the pornography starting in october but will still allow nude photos and videos that comply with the sites rules. Apparently the changes are coming due to mounting pressure from banking partners news of changes coming to only fans. It came out hours after ios revealed the company. Who's having trouble finding investors. Would you ever invest in a company that was built around sexually explicit contents tough question. Ireland is told the story that he had a chance to invest on the ground floor of an operation that that specialized in Sexually explicit stuff and his wife said absolutely not even if it's successful we cannot invest in it. Yeah i was. I know. I wouldn't myself but i think the only story is is weird land because that's how only fans built. That's how yeah. I have a feeling that they're gonna end up going back on it because they made billions of dollars like they take twenty percent of people revenue. What they need investors for anyway. Sometimes it's like it's like a cop out. I don't know why do you need investors. Just just do what you do and invested. All they do is get in the way they tell you what to do. It's another boss to answer to a friend of mine. And he offered me this opportunity. I turned down. He's he started a a website called next door girl next oral and i said no. I can't be involved in that. But apparently he's doing he's doing ok companies doing okay. But i i'm like no. I agree with lisa ireland. There's something like. I would invest in cannabis. But i'm not going to invest in something like next door girl or or any of these. I won't put money into only fence. Just because they're still going to allow by the way nudity. Just not going to allow lissette sex so i i think i think that's still but that's still like eliminates the majority of their content and i think it's weird that they would do that especially when like nowadays like sex workers like that's what made only fans popular and that's what made them all their money and like sex workers. Don't really have an alternative and what's happening is somebody who's going to invent an app. That's the alternative that is basically a new version of only fans with a different name and then the old only fans going to be like. Oh crap were we thinking you know. It just doesn't make sense. Seems like only fans but you do it. You do it like totally clean and just pretty bad. It's safe safer for content. nice nice. it's great. It's great so subscribe have it. There is radio tinder for today. Coming up next for you. Mama i do want to ask you about these new elon. Musk humanoid robots. We kind of talked about a little bit with disney and what they're doing But i wanna talk about that. I also i also wanna talk about Somebody on the show who have developed an enormous gripe against today. well i. it's like. I can't even believe i don't even know who i'm working with. I'm so stunned by. This is what i'm talking about it coming up next mason ireland seven ten espn.

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"If you're New Orleans, why would you agree to any of this? I think that's the biggest thing is. Why would they do that? I think it also includes a third team. So it's the thirteen will never agree to that because. Well, it's still apparently works. I mean it's in the article, it's very confusing to me because there's a lot of numbers being thrown around, and it's tough. But if there's a third team math here. Yeah. Right. Exactly. So if there was a if there's a third team, then you have they have to everyone has to trait amongst each other. So it's like the fourth pick would go to. Let's say Atlanta, there was that article that was saying that the eight and ten could possibly go to New Orleans and the four would then go to Atlanta. But then that way you would have to then go the four would go to Atlanta all the pieces, go to New Orleans. But then Atlanta has to give something back to the Lakers. So they're all kind of intertwined, and they have to wait a little bit problem is the whoever gets that number four pick is going to want that guy. In summer league when I started meals with this article says that everything can be done July. Six. Yeah. I said it to Bobby marks. Because he was an assistant GM for number of years, and he would be able to kind of sift through that. And see if there's any holes in that particular argument that was trying to be me. I'm not a cappella gist. But every the way everyone's explains all the cap allergists seemed to say that what you're describing there, and I realized that you describe it. I think you're describing the article doesn't work. I mean while I was reading it I was it was very confusing. So it was it was long and I was in the middle of the show. So I didn't get to fully try to figure all of it out. But it seems like they found some way that on July sixth, you can make this trade with a third team you get to keep all you get somehow make your money up to they only need three point six million dollars at the end of all of this. It's very, very complicated show. I wanna I wanna find the have the article Email it to me because I want to other texts. No mail it to me. Because I've got my laptop on I don't wanna read it off my phone on the air, if I don't have to have a MAC. I get it. You'll get it. That's fine. If I prefer to read it on, on a bigger screen. They're so Bobby Marxist responded to me. Bobby Mark says, I'll take a look at it. That's all right. Cool. So he'll take a look at it and we'll know like he'll know he'll be able to decide for all this stuff. Yeah. I what I don't understand. We've had Bobby marks on Mason, Ireland. We have had him on your tweaks at Aurora. He was on Sunday when after this whole Anthony Davis thing happened. And you had Larry Koon on today, and none of them. Aired Pinkus, all these people who really know the cap. Well, this is what they do. You would think the type of scenario in this article which disclosure I've not read it feels like what this scenario would have come to one of them, yet somebody, somebody would have decided. Hey, this makes sense, like I would think about this. And then of them did they don't even bring it up as a possibility. They all come to the same conclusion, you can't get to thirty million dollars. Yeah. So, so Marx's on the case we've already quasi Marty on the case, and he's going to take a look at it. And when he gets back to us, we will relay that information. So for all of you listening, there is this story on twenty? Four seven dot com. I wanna credit the writer David Lord three hours ago that reads puzzle pieces do in caps, give the Lakers room for LeBron Davis, and in caps, max free agent, and he's claiming they can do all that by July six. Now, I, I don't know I'm not going to claim, like I know so I'm going to make sure that Bobby marks reads that and see what he thinks, and then when he knows we'll bring him on the air and Showtime, forum, we'll aggregate there you go shake time for him. You can't listen live, go to Showtime. Formed aggregate, it in the meantime, we will talk to Michael wilpon of PTI. And obviously, he's an OG media member very, very tied into the NBA. So we will talk to him next. So here's what Marx wrote if it was that easy. The Lakers would have already added Wagner Bunga and Jones as part of the trade package. Yeah. Why don't they just do that? Right. So I don't know. Let's get we'll on first, and then we're going to try to get Mark son, and let him kind of explain what's going on. So we'll do that. We'll be back in three minutes with Michael wilbon, and then hopefully Bobby marks sometime after that back in three minutes. The data show here on ESPN LA. So Michael wilbon is supposed to join us here in a second. I'm trying to effort to get Bobby marks on. He's kind of a busy guy right now this time of year. Yeah, so we'll try to make that work. And also Bill Plaski is going to join us. This, by the way, is a rare time where Bill plash key is thrilled with the Lakers. Yeah. Like he is absolutely a static. So if you're looking for positively on the Lakers from Bill Plaski, you wanna be listening today again, what is there not to, like, you know what I mean like you've got two of the top six players in the NBA. Show. It's like. What is there to be upset about the tops explores the NBA? No other team with the warriors injuries can boast that. So for all the negativity around the Lakers, and listen, there was plenty of reason to be negative about them for months. It felt like now. It's it's a little different ballgame. And Michael wilbon, of course, the great Michael wilbon joins us here now in the Sodano show on ESPN LA. Of course, you can watch PTI at two thirty Pacific each and every day on ESPN. Follow him on Twitter and Instagram as well. My goal there is nothing to be really bothered by any more here in Laker land. Right. Is that fair to say people better not be bothered, but I'm sure they will be they're gonna complain about something because that's just become grat has been the customary pattern down the last six years without being plows, the Hakeim people be very upset. I mean, I know the first few months after the Anthony Davis trade was not consummated everybody was upset, and you have the litany of things happening from Magic's resignation. Two. I mean have one thing after another there for a while. But now, you know with two of the top seven players or whatever in the league and Golden State on redshirt year, you know, I mean, what's, what's the complaint about now? It looks I don't expect it. You know, right now, people say, well, right now, if you were going to take, you know, a leader in the in the west recovered, wouldn't be the Lakers to me. It'd be Denver. But that, that is plenty of time to change as we get through draft day and subsequent trades and signings and people are going to get cut looser unexpected from other teams and the Lakers have a shot at getting them. So there's a lot. I mean it doesn't lot left the Lakers to do, which is having these two pieces, really these three pieces, because the me keeping Cal Kouzmin is a enormous bonus that the Lakers didn't have to get them up and people start saying, well, we need a deep shooter. Hello, people paying attention have Cal Kouzmin the last year who's. Gonna get better through player development. And because he's playing with two of the best players in the league, Michael beyond with this trade does for the Lakers in terms of on the court and the basketball, what do you think it does for them just reputational with all the dysfunction of leading up to it? But I don't think it does anything because everything I mean, they have look. There's only two teams this there's three teams with. Fourteen outside reputations in order. So he's Lakers, Laker Celtics. And then the ball of faded because they haven't done anything in twenty years, and the Spurs is not dated because they still have pop and some terrific players. And it hasn't been that long since the championship in fourteen but, you know it's, it's the pillars of the league are the Lakers and the Celtics and nothing has changed is not gonna change. They still got whatever they got seventeen and sixteen or seventeen and fifteen championships. So it doesn't do anything, they'd reputation to me. I mean I'm old enough to know. I'm not a prisoner of the moment that no this league is about the Celtics and the Lakers first, and then everybody else, Michael Logan with us here, PTI each and every afternoon. Two thirty on ESPN. So how would you bolster this roster? Michael, if you're in charge. Shooters. I'm not even. Sure a lot of people have said, and I would have said, this, all of my life until the last two years, you need a pass first point guard. And maybe listen, I'm not I'm not saying I thought I think the Lakers, enhance it. They went out and got Ricky Rubio because then you've got a guy knows how to run a team. And not only does he know how to run a team Le Bron knows he knows how to run a team. And I think it was great comfort in that from the Braun and then by extension. Anthony Davis, you know, when you get a veteran guy who knows how to run a team you stop. Worrying about stuff you. Okay. That's that, that covers enough. And you turn it over to somebody. So Rubio of the guys who are of that. Stature in veteran stature, no, no. How to run a team both the Olympic level the NBA level. I mean, I think Rubio was a standout on the list of sort of traditional point guards and old school way. But if they didn't want to do that, and they just wanted to go get shooters. Why wouldn't you start with? I don't know. JJ Reta, Danny green, two guys who are free agents, who have JJ Rettig knows the pressure of planning LA, even if it wasn't the other side from the other locker room Danny green now has two rings. And then the finals at least three times those guys understand pressure games, and they would understand playoffs star players. So I you know, they could go that direction, whether they go traditional Koi guard or shooters. And that's. Something that Rob's going to have to figure out and LeBron gonna have to figure out. And then, by the way, this is where you go to the brawn, James and say, okay, we've got the framework here for something really good. We gotta fill in, then you start talking about philosophies, so you don't wind up with what the Houston Rockets appear to have now. And so I think the Lakers are in great position, but they do at the finish it, whether it's with the traditional setup man play making point guard or for that money, whether it's twenty three thirty two million dollars. Can you get to shoes at least, and then you've got three shoes 'cause you putting them without Kuzma, though? I think I mean, I think all this is found money for the Lakers right now, does the leap feel as wide open to right now. Michael is the way it's being described it with Golden State in flux. Yeah, but it depends on what coordinator decides like litter decided to stay put, then it's not as wide open Toronto comes back the heavy favorite. If if for why be always looking elsewhere illicit gets acknowledged that the clippers aware buddies thinking, then it changes, again, you know, who's the favorite in that building a forty seven win or forty eight win team adding Leonard. And by the way, if they act Kawai litter gonna ask somebody else because people will be dying to play with the clippers with the framework. They've got you know, the richest owner in the league they will executive level guys. Doc Rivers coaching to why limit of the star. I mean you're gonna wind up with not just quiet Leonard. So I'm not so sure by the way, we talk about the Lakers, and how did the betting favourite I'm not so sure. Sure that would go, I let her doesn't change in the clippers become the favorite, but that's a big if I mean, I'm not I'm not certain leaving draw. I mean, I know everybody in California's convinced that I'm not what would you do if you were him? I mean I don't know. I don't know what he we don't know him. The one thing we know about the why Leonard is we don't know anything. Right. I mean he's hysteria is anybody in sports is legitimately, not fake. Mysterious not. I want to be mysterious. He is a mystery. I mean, the, you know the, the Spurs had him for seven years. They have no idea. We is, they don't know who he is. So that means we don't know who he is. And I, I don't know. I think that, you know, I had a NBA head coach say to me yesterday morning. How do you leave that? Do you leave the country's adoration? I don't know. I, I mean that's hard. It's like that's the Olympic team the Toronto Raptors it was like a world cook thing, it's not like a like, you know, normal club team in any sport where you have a fan base. It could be outside like the Red Sox. Or the cubs or the Yankees or the Packers. It's not like that. Because even that fan base is competing with twenty eight or twenty nine of a fan bases. The raptors then they've got this thing to themselves in Canada. So there's going to be interesting to see of collage says he wants to thank you. But I'm dropping the Mike. I can't do any better than nephew people. Hope you appreciate, I'm going home, which is perfectly legit. But it's also perfectly legitimate say my God, hopping, I leaves it, and I was complete by being complete disbelief of anybody who says, oh, yes, sources told me, I know what he's going to do. 'cause that's why no. Nobody knows what. It's just I can't recall ever feeling like, you know, the, the landscape of the NBA can change in so many ways in so many different facets day, eight hours. George forty eight outlook. Okay. Kawai probably not been decide the really met with the clippers yet. We don't think. Right. So I mean he may need a week to do that. But by the time we get, so we're ten days out, and I mean, yes, the whole thing could take up big pivot depending on what he decides. I mean, I think we suspect, Kevin Durant. In Klay, Thompson will decide to stay at Golden State was appointed don't. Then, even if the pivot is the lay there still shoes, pivot in the NBA, four who who is the favourite next year the post somebody joins the Lakers on a dare. There's a lot of the live to be determined right now. But where the lease Michael wilbon with us here. Michael last thing, yahu sports, Vince goodwill. Very good NBA reporters reporting that they're the discord between CPI three and James harden. And Houston may have reached a boiling point. How do you resolve that if you're Daryl Moray? Well, I mean likely trade, one of the here's, we know, look, I know Darrell Darrell Darrell like yours truly is a proud north western alarm. And I've gotten to know Daryl more than reasonably well over the past few years, and all you gotta do is look at the history of, of the team Dera will make a move. He will make the move. The other people say it's not the move. The rockets are. Constantly in, in contention gave him more so than the players who come in and play. Well, they're contingent 'cause he will go and get those players, no matter what the prevailing, your conventional wisdom is. So I mean, if I see Chris Paul is posted saying this is news to me. He's requested a trade so Africa's Paul saying fifty I have not requested a trait, but still man, if they can't get along to this degree it look this is out there and now that is out there. You have more people saying players and people and other teams saying they've been told if they've heard this. I mean one thing that people have to understand listening to us right now. George is that player the NBA is a social league more than the others players. Talk to each other more than the other leagues. They talk to each other in real time like on the court before a game players to walk over to you. I'm sure you that does happen to you, please to walk over to you press row and say. Say, hey, you believe what do just told me? That's a nightly occurrence in the NBA. Yeah. And so when players are getting along or somebody wants out these things come about. I mean in unbelievable fashioned, like so quickly. And they are very real. It doesn't mean that people don't change their minds. But in, in that time that a very real and guys want to go. And so I don't know. I don't know what this how they're like, they've passed this up. You bring in somebody and sit down with Chris and with James and say, okay, seriously. I mean, I always knew they had a fundamental philosophic philosophic difference on how to play the game anybody watching the two of them to understand that. And I've, I've known that from conversations. They have a fundamental philosophic difference in how basketball should be played. But then I, I to me, I live in a city where this goes way back. You gotta be at least fifty years old, even be familiar with their histories, Wes unsealed, and Elvin Hayes hall of famers. They couldn't stand the way necessarily each other plate. And yet, they stayed together won a championship playing the final three times, you know, and and, and west stood for Elvin. When he was inducted into the hall of fame. So just because people have those differences, don't mean doesn't mean that they can't coexist to the to the good to the greater good of the franchise. I mean but is that going to be the case now I don't know Shaq and Kobe, right? Here is a perfect example, real Koby, great example, real quick before I let you go as we were just discussing this Jonathan Fain of the Houston chronicle is tweeting that he spoke to Daryl Morey and Moray said that he hardened and Paul have all been on face time together recently to discuss fifty free agents together, the three of them. So he is exasperated by the reporting and believes that it is nonsense basically, so they have it. There. We have with their faith timing, and discussing who else to pick up. I mean the one thing that look the rockets are benefited by staying together because the only team that has beaten in the last three years, it's been the you know, soon to redshirt, Golden State Warriors. So if the war is the only team to beat them. The rockets shouldn't be scared. Anybody else in the west? Not Denver, not Portland, not even the Lakers. And so it seems to me they should be able to make a go of this, and really try to do this, while the the the, the voters they were out of commission. And, and even if you only get to the finals once hell, they got to the finals like that, when Michael Jordan retired it work once in history. So I would I take Darrell at his word. I know Daryl I trust them. I take him at his word that those three are together on this, and then we have it's going to be a fun season. And it hasn't even we're not even in the offseason yet officially. It's ridiculous. Michael. Wolff. Wilbad PTI. Check it out each and every afternoon at two thirty on ESPN. And of course, follow him on Twitter and on Instagram as well. Michael, you are the best, sir. Thank you so much for making time for us. Always appreciate it. Jordan, welcome. It's going to be a on Wednesday, Thursday Friday. It looked like it. Yeah. For sure. I'll talk to you soon. Take care. Thanks a lot. There you go. There is the man might go wilbon with this year on the Sodano show on ESPN LA. He brought up an interesting point Andy about Kawai, and what he believes we actually have some Intel on what core values Kevin arnovitz was on with us last night, and told us as he spent the entire playoffs. He he wants. They're all of it, right. The entire playoffs with kuwa-. He was the Colli whisperer for ESPN. He has some Intel on what core values will let you hear that in four minutes Saddana show here on ESPN LA. Thanks to Michael wilbon for joining us there, Bill Plaski will join us in fifteen minutes. Join us Thursday, this Thursday at Rockin Bruce. In Redondo beach corner PCH palace Verdes boulevard for welcome AD party. I'll be broadcasting live with Byron Scott Mason island will be there from noon to three we're going to do a live in studio audience, purgatory from three to three thirty stop by and get your chance to win opening night tickets and autograph merchandise and more. You know, we always come correct with all that stuff all the goodies and whatever. Show Michael brought up Leonard, and he's like, look, I don't think anyone knows what he does or what you know, where he's going actually is what he said, and he said, I don't necessarily know what he even values. So I had Kevin arnovitz on last night. Kevin arnovitz as I mentioned earlier is was covering the raptors for the entire playoffs for ESPN. So he was around why a lot. And when I asked him about what co- why would do and what he picked the Lakers, where he picked the clippers but he stay in Toronto he gave us some insight on what he hears. What arnovitz said yesterday everybody I've ever spoken. Who knows Kawai that he loved living in southern California? It's a part of his identity at the way it is for many people who grew up in southern California, people are. And if lavar Lakers can offer something that only one other teen could offer it puts them up on the list. I just don't see where they have a competitive advantage, given what he wants and he wants to be comfortable. He wants. A franchise that hasn't been established health and performance, and science program going take utmost care. The Lakers are literally coming off a season where they were just oriented on that front. They fired their lead trainer and they not exactly been branch is known for their leadership in this area. And I just see that being really important to him. So you got that stuff is really important to him. And that's the type of stuff that we were talking about over the span of the season. Right. Where it's the training staff. These guys aren't necessarily staying healthy. That's a big problem lack of a shooting coach that contagious. Call will pull had to go outside the organization. It's just the little nickel, and diming stuff that every other franchise for the most part is doing, or at least attempting to do that. The Lakers are still way behind gone and that stuff for a guy like that. Yes, whose body is a is potentially a problem at times, and he is very self aware about what. Kind of issues is body may have this could be a hurdle for the late, but also to be on the fact that why has the body issues that you were talking about co is a guy with options like when you're talking about somebody, like Kawhi Leonard who's got two championships. Two finals MVP's right now could be, you know, the consensus best player in the league and you have nothing to prove you're looking for those, you know, those little things are going to be, what break the tie, not the lore of the Lakers of the history of the Lakers, like the that stuff can maybe break a tie if all things are equal, but the idea that the history of the Lakers or the glamour of the Lakers, the Tiffany of it all, that's not going to bring in somebody like, Kawhi, Leonard who he doesn't need that, you know, I mean, like the idea that southern California could break the tie for quiet. He's going through equal options. Right. That's what could work for the clippers because the clippers have more of those little things like you were just talking about George. They're, they're more established that way they have more. They've. Covered the details better than than I have in that situation. Watch this morning on get up with my Greenberg talking about Kawais focus right now. The reality is quite Leonard's focused, I Los Angeles, but it's the clippers not the Lakers that number one, they don't have the money to sign him. And to the idea of him being a third wheel on a team trying to create a super team that has not been Kawais them. Oh, the clippers are poised to be able to lure him from Toronto. This will be a raptors clippers fight down, the he may take meetings. With more teams it's not even certain even taken meeting with the Lakers right now. I mean, what's to take the meeting if you don't have I if you don't have the requisite money like the idea that he's going to take that, that type of pay cut to join a team you know, he knows that he can bring a championship wherever he goes? And if he goes down the hallway staple center, he can automatically put you in contention. He's already shown, I don't need a big three to make this happen on a big one. Yeah. He's, he's shown. He's, he's gotten his first finals MVP at LeBron's expense. Right. When LeBron was a better player, right. Then we now to me always was the biggest issue with the top two. Your guys Durant clay and Kawhi. And even Kyrie to some extent the first three, I mentioned, as you pointed out, have one LeBron's expense. The other one wanted with LeBron and left. Lebron? Here's the thing when you're a made guy like in terms of having a championship, and you're no longer at a place where you have to chase one. You still want more all these guys want multiple championships. But you don't have to chase anything like you don't have to be desperate in the way you make these decisions or feel like you're making concessions, because I, I gotta validate my career with that championship. Right. Co. Why is well past that right now, Greg Bergman, Texas, that they brought in Judy CTO CTO to revamp. The health side and a lethal shooter coach or shooting coach Casey p shooting coach seems like he's going to be hired now. Now he's posting stuff, but don't know about that. Maybe that helps. Well, I mean, look. Again, hiring Judy cdo and I'm not. You would be probably way more familiar with her. Maybe this way. Kobe loved her. Right. What is your expertise? I mean for a long time, she took good care Kobe. I mean Kobe used to be the guy who could play through anything. He was always the guy that could manage to get back on the court no matter what. And a lot of that credit went to Gary Viti, you know, the credit would go to Alex McKechnie who's now with the raptors working wonders their way, when he got let go during the lockout that was the most stunning thing to me in terms of people that they're working going to let go essentially because I didn't wanna keep paying him during a pure where there's no basketball going on. Alex McKechnie was stunning to me. But Judy Saito should also get credit for Kobe having been able to force so long play through a lot of injuries. But here's the problem, though. Even if you believe in Judy cdo and, and you believe in her credentials, if you're quiet, Leonard or any other free agent, you wanna have an idea. Of what it all looks like Anna template that was already there. Right. It's it that is the point is that you don't write when she worked with Kobe. How long ago was that? Now I it's been a while. Right. As been Joshi hasn't. He hasn't seen it work with this incarnation of Lakers. Remember how like five this is show me. Remember how like five six years ago there was this, there was this concept that, you know, you could pitch free agents with the idea of. Okay. You have a blank campus. I mean a blank canvas and we will let you pick your teammates. We'll let you pick your coach. The whole world is your stir pick what you want. Right. As it turns out, guys want to know exactly what it is. They're signing up for. They don't like the idea of the blank canvas. Yeah. Thomasson Woodland Hills. What's up Thomas? I, I was I wanted to make a comment about yesterday. You make minimum on talking about. While growing take less money and begin that it just doesn't work like that. You can't why can't it? If you. The collective bargaining agreement says you can't do it. You read work at do. Is in the NFL. It's not Thomas. It's not the NFL. They, they have collectively bargained that, that's it. That's why they have fully guaranteed contracts. Fair enough. All right. Eight your show is great today at Lubbock white talk. Thanks, man. You gotta buddy. Thank you. Yeah. I just let's get that clear. This is in the National Football League. They cannot go back into a contract that was already signed sealed and delivered and reopen that and do surgery to it does not how this works that they can't do like what Tom Brady's done for the patriot. No, you putting aside the fact whether LeBron would do it or not. You can't do it. Right. It's not an option. It's just not possible, Kevin in El Segundo. What's up, Kevin? What's going on guys? You know, it's just like Judy said, would you guys not think she's been practicing for the last seven years, or that, she, I know we're not saying this hasn't been practicing clearly, she's been practicing. But what we're trying to tell you is that they haven't seen it applied to this group when she worked with Kobe. That seemed like it's been a while clearly, and I think that if you're Kawai you're going to go with a group that you are more convinced you've seen the results, you see what I'm saying recently, good point. Good point. That's the only thing I would say, specia- is trying to tarnish your credential. No, no. She she's very well respected cover the team when she was a part of it. She's extremely well respected. But also too young to remember, Kawai, Leonard is currently at least part of Toronto Raptors team that he seemed what they can do to keep them healthy. Right. Like that's the standard now that he's working with he entered that situation with concerns about his health and. And the raptors could not have handled that situation any better than now his baseline. They nailed it. I look, I think this is a good time for the Lakers like guys who cares about the third max player. You are the only team with two top six players on your roster right now because the warriors are hurt. So you've got an edge already fill out the roster. With complimentary player totally agree. We'll talk to Bill Plaski plastic. He's happy rarity. It's a rare, Mark this day happiness moment. Eighteenth two thousand nineteen Bill plaschke's happy about the late and we will talk to him in four minutes.

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"I who got his time for fasttrack by Rex Rex dedicated to helping homeowners. Save us and game changing technology full-service experience. No minimum. Rex cutting agent commissions by seventy percent to get started on lock your savings. Visit sell with wrecks dot com. All right. So let's just play gut hunt chair Janet of the coin Tyler do other side of the coin somebody else called in the air. I think it might be money Williams. I'll call a Dell say tales. Wow. That's tell someone else. Wow. Someone else fast track. But I don't know anything. Yeah. I mean, I know nothing. I know nothing. You're Sartre your these sergeant Schultz. Yup. The okay Mace. There was some severe weather becky's yesterday. So a lot of TV stations were putting up weather warnings in their area while tiger was winning the masters, right? Some stations took it a step further in Atlanta, and Cleveland, they actually cut into programming when tiger was on the back nine and they got killed on Social Weather. They like the meteorologist popped up and said, hi, I'm John Ireland with a weather update. And while Tigers like nobody the people didn't get a chance to see it in Washington DC. They showed the masters live but did several cut ins during the replay in the afternoon. Here's what Michael wilpon who is watching in DC tweeted about the CBS station there quote channel nine in DC, the CBS affiliate you people couldn't wait until tiger putted out before you took him off the screen for your self indulgent, endless weather, interruption, really a pox on your producers. Probably some of my dear friends that among other things and social media calls and everybody's screaming at the TV station caused the meteorologist there a guy named topper Shutt. Yup. To put out a Twitter video. Here's what topper Shutt had to say. Okay. Lee relatives topper shot here. Look we had to go on the air for the one. What we do is our policy is one reason for granted SEC license to protect life property. I will say this had that masters been live and not a replay. We might have addressed it with a crawl on the lower portion of your screen since it was not live. And it was in our viewing area we went on and our policy is to stay on until the tornado warning as expired or cancer it was canceled about two minutes before it expired. So that's why we did what we did. I'm sorry. If you I know some folks work, and they came home to watch replay. And we've had a lot of calls and a lot on social about this. Look, I'm a huge. Golf in probably one of the golf fans. So we don't take it lightly. We also don't take protecting life and property lightly. Either. Okay. Let's see you run a TV station. Yep. There's a tornado warning in your area. Do you cut into programming? Run a crawl across the bottom of the screen or just wait. Until after the master's is over. How do you play? This is the reason why you have an FCC license. It is a tornado warning. And I grew up in the part of the country where there were tornadoes. They are. There are tragedies all over the place involving tornadoes. I would have done exactly the same thing particularly since it was a replay. But tornadoes are serious. It's like, okay. What would have happened? If had we had an earthquake would they have broken in and shown earthquake coverage is that's the equivalent. Yes. We have earthquakes they have tornados. Here's what I would have done. And I worked in TV news for twenty eight years. You can cover both things what he talked about a crawl along the bottom of the screen is just as affected as a guy sticking his face on TV. I don't think a tornado warnings going to affect certain parts area. It's not going to take everybody. What's the difference between putting in giant letters across the bottom of the screen tornado warning in our area? If you live in Venice or Manhattan, beach or credit you need to be prepared. We'll keep you posted on you didn't answer my question. If if there had been an earthquake in Los Angeles during the mass or in the master tiger. What would have been covered. I would have said you would've put a crawl. Yeah. We're sorry. You don't have power right now. There's people can't watch anyone. No, no. I look this is one of the reasons why you have you know, how we play those annoying emergency broadcasts. That's exactly what the mercury necessities. Crawl crawl curl Piguet IRS, Greg where you on this. I think you've gotta come in. It was a replay. It wasn't live. He absolutely should have a replay to the people who didn't see it in the morning, but it was during the resource you knew who won crawl you already knew. Yes. We proud of me now yesterday tornadoes more important yesterday. I was actually out golfing in the morning, and we came back, and I recorded it. I played music alway home I walked in. I told my wife if you know anything don't tell me what if stairs watched the whole master's finding out. My phone was going crazy this left it buried almost never works. But it worked for me. Hardly ever works, boss Chapman. I brand new rankings for you're listening to case in Los Angeles for the most visited websites in the United States. Now, I'm gonna tell you up front are there some porn site. I'm Italian front number six's, porn hub. Yeah. Number seven is x ex- x and number eight hundred tried that one that one. XM Goto John come down. Oh, Greg for you. It's accent ex ex. Absolutely. And John wearing normally go porn up. Yeah. I'm porn hub guy to. Now, speaking getting killed on social media. All right. So now that means that there are seven other websites in the top ten. All right. See how many you can get three straight. We had to do before. So if we miss it we did this year ago. So we miss it idiots one of got to be Google, right? Yeah. Google Google number one. All right, Greg. I think one's gotta be Amazon right Amazon, Amazon Amazon's number four. Okay. We got one we got four YouTube YouTube is number two, by the way, Google and YouTube. That's the same company. Google owns you too. So they have the number one and number two most visited websites. Facebook got to be Facebook Facebook number three, right? So we got one two three four. We don't have that. Most people get their news on Facebook. Okay. Greg Amazon's got to be there. Did you did you? Okay. So now, it's gonna is is Instagram is that actually a website or is it? Yes. And no, it's both. And I think it has to be there Instagram number ten by the way owned by Facebook. Right. She's they own every what are we missing? You're missing your. Missing number five and number nine. Let's it. Yup. And we don't have any strikes. Okay. I don't think any sports sites are in there. What about money sites? I don't think he is been would be top ten about like news and information site. Ios number five. Got one more just missing nine people buy stuff there, and it's not Amazon oftentimes a player will sign something. And it will end up here. Ten minutes later. Oh, EBay EBay, y'all done. Hey, so it goes Google YouTube Facebook, Amazon Yahoo porn hub ex- ex- ex- ex- videos. Ebay an Instagram. It is amazing that that I read I read a story today that at some point Mark Zuckerberg went to somebody that owned my space back in the day and offered to sell them Facebook for an extraordinary amount of money, like seventy five million and the guy said no while whoops last. I heard my space is owned by Justin Timberlake might as well. Yeah. Chat. Limbs less anybody. At my space Mace, you two thousand and three claiming to the world's oldest millennial have come out in favor of cliff Kingsbury plan to give his heirs own cardinal players. Cellphone break guests every fifteen or twenty minutes during practice. I think it's stupid because when you play actual games, you can't have your phone with you. So on. Saturday. The Sixers were losing to the nets. When ESPN got a shot of Philadelphia's Amir Johnson sharing a text message with Joel Embiid on the Sixers bench. It was on a cellphone. Here's what Doris Burke, and Dave Pasch said about it when it happened at camp. And this is really troublesome to their Johnson is not what he is on the bench. That's a cellphone. I can't definitively say all of us show with a text message looks like like, what is that thing? Doing out to me. Why did you only looking and smiling? Now after the game. Embiid said Johnson's daughter was really sick. And the message was an update on how she was feeling. The Sixers didn't care they find Johnson and both GM Elton brand and coach Brett Brown called the incident quote completely unacceptable under a connive Johnson. But not Embiid for looking correct. If I Johnson for bringing the phone out onto the bench. What? What do you think of this story? And do you still support the idea of giving these guys cellphone bricks? Well, first of all if your daughter's sick, you leave the bench, you're not act for the bench, you go back to the locker room, and you figure out what's going on with it. If you're not active, you don't even have to be on the bent, right? Yeah. So Amir Johnson is completely wrong. Here doesn't change my opinion of of what cliff Kingsbury is do gonna do an Arizona. You know, you can't tame this generation, wait a minute. You cannot win mind millennial generation you if you're giving these guys every fifteen or twenty minutes, they'll get their phones. What are you gonna do when they have a three hour game on Sunday? And they're not allowed to look at their phones. You can live without it. Evolve. Lived in this living without it because you lack has live without its practice. Right. Where you with the cell phone breaks? I don't like it during a game. Not during that game. I'm fine with another word day. It's twenty minutes ago. A check your phone. I told you the story that when. Brian Shaw was you're making such a bigger decay wind Brian Shaw was the head coaching. Well, this is kind of a story that would lend itself to your theory. Brancheau was the head coach of the nuggets he asked that. He goes, look guys, I need your undivided attention. When you hear it practice for three hours. Just gimme three hours and he had the equipment manager collect their cell phones in a bucket, and he said when practices overcome get your phone out of the bucket, but just give me three hours. When Brian was fired the general manager there told him that the younger players complained that he didn't understand the younger generation and used as an example him taking away their phones for three hours. I think the whole thing is absurd. I think branch did exactly the right thing. And if you can't live without your phone for three hours. You don't deserve to be in the NBA grow up every time. I hear stuff like this. I think you know, what they're running the show now. Now, maybe it's it's their show and by the way, cliff Kingsbury wants to check its phone too. Well, you see who you wonder he's basically isn't a millennial also. And he's like forty he's. Yeah. I mean, he's right there Molyneaux, I think. Just most generation X the ring. Check my last week boogie cousins told Marc spears from the undefeated that he doesn't wanna be called boogie anymore. Really wants to go by his actual first name DaMarcus, bogey is the nickname. He picked up as a freshman at Kentucky. But at the NBA level has name has become synonymous with a quick temper knucklehead locker room behavior and until this year. Lots of losing why do you think boogie wants to change his name, and will it work? Well, I think Johnny Manziel is trying to get everybody to call him John on Manziel kit. That's what's interesting about. This is the team announcers like if a player came to me, and they said, hey. Go. Call me boogie like, let's say the Lakers signed DeMarcus cousins and Allison Boegli comes to me for the season. And said, hey, DeMarcus is asked that you call him to markets. He wants to lose boogie. We would do it like Erbil Bill McDonald? And I would see sing the word boogie now would fan stop though, it's tough genie to put back in the bottle. It's really tough as no limit you as somebody who works at the Lakers station. Would you do it would you respect his wishes to be called DaMarcus? Or would you say, I'm not I'm not beholden to them. I'm not doing see what I mean. It's going to be a tough thing to do. But see, I it would be a hard habit break you. You know, what the real answer to? This is honest depends how he plays. Well, you it's up thirty and fifteen every night, Mr. tomorrow, listen here. Here's the thing. I understand look. He's like, I'm friends with the with the warrior, guys, Bob, FitzGerald, and Tim, ROY. I betcha they if he asks him to do it. I bet you they're just saying to market he's likely going to get a ring. It's an opportunity to rebrand himself. You know? You know, I'm I'm devoting myself the basketball in a more meaningful way than I ever have before. And I'm serious about this to me. Marna size them for that. Just DeMarcus is actually kind of a cool. Nobody else has it. Right. All right. More fasttrack in two minutes. Mason in Ireland ESPN LA back with fast-track Ireland. It's do you false tack by Laurie Laughlin in her husband have pleaded not guilty on law. Let me get the question out have passed on a plea agreement in the college admission scandal, so since Laurien occur and not complete. The US attorney went to a federal grand jury to get an indictment adding charges of money laundering. This now drastically increases the amount of time Laurie and her husband would get as a minimum recommended sentence. Specifically, the US attorney says Laurie her husband and fourteen others will now be charged with the additional crime money laundering charge. That alone carries a maximum of twenty years in prison. This means of and her husband now on a plea bargain. Their cases instead of a minimum range of two to two and a half years. Prosecutors would recommend a minimum of four and a maximum of six now normally rich people with this kind of money and resources are able to avoid jail. Do you think? Laurie Laughlin or Felicity Huffman will ever actually spend time in a jail cell. I'm sure they've got the best Justice money can buy. I would be shocked if they wind up in jail amp Becky should not be appearing on orange is the new black now. Full disclosure. I went to high school with her husband, very briefly. Yeah. Maas massimo. Yeah. Most wanted you went to Kernan Lamar very briefly do the crime. Gotta do the sign him a little I have not talked to him in years. They said hi to him in a Laker game five six years ago. But I think he remembers you he said he did. But he was very good friends with a very good friend of mine. Chris Lynch shot at Chris Lynch. The so I'm rooting for him. Because I know see I think that this looks when the when they pleaded not guilty and refuse to take. A plea Felicity Huffman pleaded guilty. So I think she might not go to jail, but I'm worried about Lori and Massimo I think that they may I you think neither one using none of them. Greg eating any of them are going to jail. No, I don't think any. Here's the thing up in jail. I, you know, this is white collar crime. I guess here's here's my question. Who really got hurt? Who who who is the foremost got in? And they're spas victory is who in the weird thing is what they should do with the kid. You know, they're not letting the kids withdraw from school the kids. Are there the one girl didn't she quit daughter? No. And won't let they won't let her quit influence or Libya. Jane? Yeah, she they won't let it quit. They said, no, you're not allowed to try your cases under his pending. When I grow up. I wanna be an influence her already think you are. How do I get to be an influence or just keep going on Instagram? Your constantly influence. What are you talking about? I say locker up. No, you're just glad girl. I just wanted to chant that locker. Her. I know some rallies you can check. We all all over the board on there. Right. So we all watched Hathor Julius Bjornson last night. Oh, he's servcies bodyguard. Right. Yeah. He's the mountain. Yep. Now Bjornson admitted to is also the current reigning world's strongest man, right? He's from Iceland. He's six foot nine four forty. He's using Steve Greg. We can hear you, Greg. We can hear what you're saying on my Microsoft, you're you're totally blowing. My question my bed. He eats eight meals a day when he's training. He wanted to be a professional basketball player, but broke his right ankle twice when he was nineteen. He would have been hard to get off the block. So he turned a weight lifting competitions. He didn't interview for east sixty which appeared yesterday, and he was asked if he's ever used steroids. He answer guest. I have when you want to be the best you do whatever it takes. So a few questions. Yeah. PD's are banned in the world's strongest man competition. Okay. But he's never failed a test. And just this year. He finally one is first championship. If you're a competitor that just lost to him. Do you demand that he give up his title Sherwin at he admitted he uses steroids? Yeah. And by then like, my friend, Steve Mason, always says the users are always ahead of the testers. They absolutely are. But he he admitted it. Yeah. And the second question is it fair to assume then anytime, you see a ripped up actor on screen that they're probably using steroids. Yes. I completely agree. Yeah. It makes me feel better about myself. I don't have to look like Chris Evans. I mean, I like you see Michael Jordan, Jordan Reed. Yeah. Come on. What do you think? Everybody. Cut up is using steroids a lot of them. Yeah. We should ask shave. They've ever been asked to like poke up for a movie and take steroids. I can text them. But if they I've I know people that used steroids and say, yeah, you steroids, they're actors. Well, we used to work with this guy. Name Martinez who's gone onto a very successful career in Meson public radio, and he openly uses steroids and makes the argument that they should be legal. Right. And he said that as long as you use them in a measured way that they can really help you develop in your fine. He said that it's a joke. They're not legal one of the side effects is hair loss, and I saw. And yeah, you used to look like Jesus did you say have like super long hair those days are over. All right last one for me, and I've got a game, Greg. You could play Jay you could play Masons in when Tiger Woods won the master's yesterday. It was the longest stretch a winning player has ever gone between masters. He last won the tournament fourteen years ago. April tenth two thousand five I have a series of events you guys. Tell me did these things happen before. Or after the last time tiger won the master. So in April of oh five. Greg number one, you first Justin Timberlake and Janet Jackson had a wardrobe malfunction at the Super Bowl did happen before. Or after tiger won the masters. The last time. That are you allowed to say what year he won the master's last? What was? Oh, what was it was April tenth three thousand five five? Okay. Yeah. I don't remember what year that was you tell the story of thousand times, I can't guess for our before J before Mace. I'm going after Jay and Gregor. Correct. It was before it happened in February of two thousand four was when the wardrobe malfunction occurred. Okay. Number two, Jamie Foxx wins and Oscar for best actor for playing Ray Charles in the movie Ray jaded that happened before. Or after tiger one is last masters that was after okay Mace. The year is two thousand five you want to I'm going to say it's before Greg. Yeah. I'm gonna say it was that year. So you're going before Stephen Greg are correct. I know you would feel bad if you missed that because your friends produce. But it happened in two thousand four year before. Okay, Mace Nintendo releases the we gaming console in the United States was that before or after April tenth two thousand five. I'm going to say it's before. All right. Greg trying to think when I got my way. Whatever happened to the we have the Grizedale. I still have. Before okay j. Yeah. T- that was before all three of you wrong. It was in two thousand six that. We released the gaming consoles. Ceo. It's great to J. One was big Steve one. Okay. Greg. Barack Obama announces for the first time he's running for president before after. Oh, it's probably right around there. It is right around there. After j after Mace after you guys are all correct. It was in two thousand seven and then he won in. Oh, eight was president from oh. Eight to sixteen. Yep. Okay. Great you and I had time right? Jay, Saddam, Hussein former president of Iraq is captured by the US fourth infantry division was that before or after April tenth two thousand five I'll say that was before. All right Mace today Hussein capture. I will say that was before Greg. I think I was at FOX after Jay and Steve correct? It was before it was in two thousand and three. And that ties the game you guys all have three each and there are four remaining. Okay. All right. Let's to ace Tom Cruise jumped on Oprah's couch was that before after April tenth two thousand five. I'm going to say that was before. All right. Greg. After Jay after Greg and Jay are correct. I only missed by two months. He did it two months after tiger won the masters in five you did it in. Oh five. All right. Who went I that time Mason did right? Greg apple launches I tunes which becomes a major success selling ten million songs in the first four months after. Okay. Jay before maize break, the two after Jay Corrales has taken the lead it happened before in two thousand three. Wow, outside tunes. All right. But everybody's still in it. Okay. All right. We had I the I pod. All right to Mark. The iphone yet though. Jay, Reggie Bush wins the Heisman at USC before. Or after April tenth two thousand five. Member Leonard and Bush run them back to back before. Okay mace. After greg. I'm I don't remember. It was two thousand four two thousand five I'm saving four and two other four Mason is correct. Which sets up a great finale Reggie wanted in December of oh five. I knew it was right area. J jaaz five. Greg and Steve have four which means J you f- to go. I this is the one that will decide it. It's worth two and a half points. Jay, Kelly Clarkson wins the first American idol contest, Kelly Clarkson wins the first American idol before after April tenth two thousand five to save before. Okay. Mace before J win. Let's say after okay, Greg, you're wrong. And Jay's the winner. She actually did it way before way before thousands to. Yes. Well there. Yeah. You always. Interesting game. Oh, look. He's here. Brian Windhorst is here. Well, excellent author of the brand new book LeBron Inc. We'll talk to him about what's going on with the Lakers. Mason Ireland ESPN LA. I, hey, look who's here. It's Brian Windhorst. Brian what's going on man playoff time playoff time? Yeah. And some surprises over the weekend. We'll get into that with Brian to. But he's got a new book out called the Browning. Can you've been of course, covering the Brun forever. And there's this debate today as to how much say LeBron will or should have as the Lakers rebuild their front office. First of all, do you think that what we're hearing is that rob Pelinka is has been put in charge and he's one hundred percent in charge. And he will do the coaching search and make decisions for now you here in the same thing. Yes. I hope that's true. Because if he's out there doing the coaching interviews, you want him to be the one making the decision now how you feel about him and insists he's made is different. But you gotta have the decision maker out there leading your charge. Because if I'm a coach, let's just say, I'm drawn Howard. I'm saying are you been my boss because I don't want to get with you. Right. You know, you wanna be my boss, and they to start making you making plans for draft and stuff like if they're going to move on with the coaching search and robs leading it. Then that leads to me. Leave. That's the way. It's because here's here's the thing. This is I been ranting on this today. But this is a multi billion dollar corporation in their operating like a mom and pop, and you know, the to me the right way to do. This would be find the right head of basketball operations led him make a decision on general manager and head coach. What do you think? Absolutely. And we we see us all the time. We just saw the Minnesota Timberwolves who are getting a pass nationally because what happened with magic they announced that they're going to keep their GM coach but hire a new president. Lunacy. Yeah. They're not his Gus. Right. I I mean, I guess it could work, but almost certainly not gonna work. So now, there's another path that you could take which is to hire a senior adviser, right? He Jerry West role. Is there somebody out there that you like you could bring in who wouldn't necessarily be the direct report, but could come in and say, hey, I for lack of better term that Jerry West role. Then maybe it makes it works a little bit better. But even then you'd still like to have that person in your adviser advising you on who your coach should be. Now, it seems to me like the Lakers had kind of gone down the path of their coach is going to be and rob. And I assume we're talking about that together. So maybe this was something that wasn't going to be changed matter. What are you hearing that same three names? We're hearing Tyler money Williams. One howard. Yes. Yes. What do you know about? We you covered Miami. When. Lebron was down there. We don't know a lot about Juwan Howard. What are you know? I love Juwan. I love him. I he was right. The end of his career there. He played his last season Amelie. What's the coaching staff? Now, he has generally been a development guy a guy to work with the players. I don't exactly hundred percent know how the heat staff go. But I think he's like the third assistant like, and he he's he's really effectively working with the players. He's got to other assistance there. Chris quinn. The former guard who was around the league and Dan Craig who's basically Erik Spoelstra air expulsed show. Pat, Roddy Spoelstra was like his sidekick expulsion psychic is Dan Cragg, Dan, Craig is kind of going to be a future coach elite to I and physio came out of that tree to fit they'll moved out and sort of Dan Cragg moved in. So he I understand why did you want getting interviews? He's to move you in Cleveland, I believe as well or with Cleveland aware it'll be, but I was surprised I. I think this is like, let's see what you have to say gain to know you. I would be surprised if he is ready to be head coach right now. So a lot of people have thought all along it's gonna wind up being Tyler because he's got experience with LeBron is he the right guy in your mind. He's the right guy. But this team is completely not built for the way. He wants to coach the way that tie coached in Cleveland. And I mean, I don't know maybe it was too that personnel. The t the floor was completely set up with shooting. And he put the ball in the Browns hand and said everything that happens on this court will be to service you all the plays will be set up for you to be the primary playmaker. All of the players who out on the court will be outlets for you. You will be the man in the middle, and we will serve as everything around you it exhausted. Lebron that's one of the reasons why he wanted more playmakers, but that was the way tie Lou coached right now. The Lakers team is not set up to play that way, they're set up with multiple different options and certainly multiple different ball. Handlers. So Ty, I'm sure would have an opinion on how to use the the personnel at the have. But if he was replicating what they had in Cleveland. It would be a complete change of sore. You saying that LeBron you said it exhausted him? Yeah. In other words, do they have to find a different way in his age thirty four season. Or can they still go back to the floor? I would say is, you know, one of the things that, you know, magic set a few things this year that made me scratch my head one of them that he said at one point was this is not Cleveland, and he was referring to the way that the team was set up with LeBron the centerpiece of it, and they this is this is not clean one. And that been to the finals for right? Yeah. Well, the so the the one of those three we haven't talked about yet is money Williams who has been a head coach. How do you think money would fit in this situation super highly respected amongst the players very much of a building the team come rotary. Almost like a father figure type guy comes from a large family had a tragedy in his family of. One of the stories that articulates what Monty was about as a coach was when Ryan Anderson his fiancee, are it was a reality TV star ex-fiancee. But anyway, the woman who was very much in his life a committed suicide, and he basically carried Ryan through that experience, and that type of guy he is he is the he almost like a college coach where he is sort of the sort of father figure type guy not that you have a father son relationship in the NBA. But certainly like the head of a family that is what he brings incredibly well respected has spent time sense. His last coaching job learning, a great organizations, Oklahoma City San Antonio now. Philadelphia was beloved by the players in in New Orleans when he got fired. So I, you know, by the way players love Thai Lue to he's one of the quintessential players coaches, but Mani even to a different level than. All right. Can you hang on? All right. Cool. More with Ryan Windhorst coming up, by the way, the book is LeBron Inc. And we'll talk about that to Mason and Ireland ESPN LA I- ESPN LA Brian Windhorst hanging up, by the way, he's gonna brand new book out called LeBron Inc. One of the things that we were just talking about this interesting is the way. Lebron met Rich Paul which was in an airport. But for a very specific reason. Yeah, I think LeBron was going to the final four which which was in Atlanta and rich was going to Atlanta because he had a business where he sold throwback jerseys. So back, then nearly two thousand throwback jerseys were really popular, and at least in the Akron Cleveland area. Apparently, he couldn't get the really good ones. Rich was wearing a like authentic high end Warren Moon, throwback jersey. Lebron was wearing some I don't remember what he was wearing these wearing a different one. And it was sort of like low rent. He sheep for throwback jersey. He was almost embarrassed a walked up to him. He was like where did you get that jersey because there was just an availability issue. Right. And he goes, oh, I I lo- business. I get these jerseys. I go down to Atlanta, which is where he was going to have a guy down there. I buy them from and I take orders, and I get him. And he goes, well, I would I have been dying to get my hands on a Joe Nemeth. Rams LA Rams through. That was what he wanted. Yeah. Great story. And so he's like give give me your number. Gimme a week, whatever. And the bridge got it form, and they start talking about their veterans actually have a similar background in that they're from the inner city, but they went to private schools. They had apetit to go to private schools where they were definitely in the minority and Richard a few years older than him, and they just had this relationship and LeBron liked him. And this is few years before he turned pro he was like midway through high school in this happen. That's where their relationship started. And then the other two guys in their group maverick Carter and rainy mims were they already there when he met rich come later. Yes. Maverick new LeBron when they were kids their families were friends maverick was a senior when the Brown was a freshman on his high school team, the senior captain got it. And so he had a he had a mentor role. He went to western Michigan university. And had the coach that got fired or he might have played at western Michigan university for years, and like they would have kept in touch with LeBron but the coach cut fired maverick transferred, the university of Akron had to sit out a year again, he could not transferred Akron. He could've transferred somewhere else in that year was like the year where it was became realize that LeBron was going to be a big thing sliding doors, man. Yeah. Lebron trusted him. Yep. You know? And so and Robert became like the Nike guy. Right Nike was looking for a way to get in with LeBron. So they hired maverick to be an intern and brought him up to. That's where he learned the trade. Like, I talked to people Nike, and they were like normally we have like Harvard Business School guys and Stanford business school. That's where Phil Knight went was Stanford. And there's this guy from Akron. And we thought he was going to be this token this no show guy. But in actuality, he was like super super interested and everything that they did. And like even though he didn't graduate from college. He went to Nike and like wanted to learn the business and learn what was going on with the shoes. And basically not only did was he LeBron was he trusted by LeBron. He spent that time to invest in learning the business and then headed rainy get with them. So LeBron had a surrogate father, you know, he never really knew his own father this guy. Eddie Jackson and Eddie provided for LeBron when he was a high school. Gloria didn't have a steady job, and then he went to jail for mortgage fraud, federal mortgage fraud and Randy was a close friend of his. And he said I want you to watch over the family readies ten years older than abroad. Brady now works for the Lakers. Right, by the way. Yeah. I travelled. With us. And so really he was just like when Eddie went to federal prison in Pennsylvania. He was there to make sure that everything was okay, and again protective of LeBron and just sort of earned LeBron's trust. If you had the Bruns try if you had the bronze trust at seventeen you have is trust today. Now, if you didn't have a trust and seventeen very few people have entered that's fear in the in. The time sets is Brian you mean, and we're talking to Brian wind horse who's written this book. Lebron ink is LeBron. No is LeBron a- billionaire yet. No, he's not a billion. Although like he owns this percentage of blaze pizza. How much is that worth? I don't know. He owns two percent of Liverpool f c right how much is that worth? You know? Did he invest in apple early? Did. He have Disney last week. I don't know. But I don't know as investments have gone, but he I don't think he could put his hand on a billion dollars today. But he's headed in that direction. So Ireland was bringing up on. Friday that and I think somewhat jokingly that was radio top that Kobe would get involved somehow with the Lakers at a basketball level. I think that's a ridiculous notion. But I do believe that LeBron especially after reading the book that his future may be owning a team may be involved in team operations, right? Well, Kobe just did this deal with body armor where he supposedly. I have no idea that he made a couple of hundred million dollars. Not to mention that. If somebody wanted to buy a team, okay, somebody was collecting money to buy a team and they wanted to bring Kobi into the ownership group. It would be incredibly powerful. Even if Kobe wasn't the leader. Like, this is what Derek jeeter did down in Miami. I think four percent of that team. But he essentially runs the team keys, essentially, the fact, that's the that's the same deal. President George W Bush had with the Rangers. He owned one. Percent of the Texas. Rangers wouldn't surprise me of Obama someday has that role in NBA team. Oh, interesting. If the Chicago Bulls ever came for sale. Yeah. What they probably wouldn't in the short term, the Reinsdorf, you know, butt or something like that wouldn't be surprised. Lebron will be a team owner one day yet. I don't think he wants to be a four percenter controlling like the veteran. A diva is the controlling owner of the sacrament. Oh, king C owns less than twenty percent. It all depends on how it's structured, and you have to have the partners and everything, but I feel I think LeBron had an epiphany in his twenties that he was getting up raw deal. Even though he's making a really good salary. He was just a contractor in the NBA and the and his teams were Mickey hundreds of millions and the league with LeBron. And you'd say the same thing about Kobe the league benefited billions of dollars how you quantify it, right, Brian. It's been worth billions of dollars to the NBA that twenty four billion dollar TV deal that we're in the middle of right now, the Brian is responsible for a big piece. And even though he's getting more than thirty million. He's still not getting a raw he's still getting a bit of a raw deal. So he decided going forward. I'm going to be an owner when I can be an owner of something I want to be an owner of it. I don't wanna be a contractor anymore and. That has been a big driving factor. And how he's looked at really a lot of his life decisions in the last ten fifteen years. All right. Let's do some Lakers. How does so right now rap linka seemingly running the show genie boss in the ownership role. How does the rest of the league view what's going on with the Lakers? The league is thrilled because the Lakers are sleeping giant as long as they stay sleeping. It's benefit thrust the league when you say sleeping giant. What do they miss him? They're missing the the cuttingly. Well, look look at how the lo- LA clippers do business. Yep. The LA clippers run their business like a small market team. They invest in heavy scouting they invest in heavy analytics they invest in heavy player development. They if they have a player on their roster who they don't think is worth his salary or they're worried about what they're going to pay him the future. They trade him. They look they look to make small deals to build up to deals. They have a very deep front office. Like, not only do they have Lawrence Frank. But they have Michael wingers one of the best go she in the league. And they have Mark us, and they have Jerry West. I mean the debt when when you swing when the when the clippers make a maneuver you feel their infrastructure last week, for example, they release Luke Papa mutate the second last day of the season. Why why would they release a player the second to last day of the season? I realized he's hurt because they were making room to claim this guy off waivers from Miami. Rodney mcgruder who will not even play for them in the playwright because they recognize that Miami was probably going to waive him. And they wanted to have a spot to Klay them. The Lakers could claim them by the way, it would have been ideal player for the Lakers to claim. I don't wanna say the Rodney mcgruder is a difference making player. He's a young guy who can shoot who has a very low cap hold who if you have a salary cap space team, you fill out your wall. Stor is a perfect guy to have on your roster. I was stunned that the Lakers did not claim him us. We. Yeah. That's a good example. Brian lasting for you. There's so much speculation about free agents. Do you think the Lakers, get anybody? And if so who would you speculate they might get so the to me the big swing guy in the league is Jimmy Butler. Considering what the what the what the clippers got for Butler for for for for Tobias, Harris. It looks to me like they in the Sixers and ten to recycle by Sarah. That's a five year the otherwise he's walking. Yeah. They've got Ben Simmons. They've got to pay this fall. They got Joel Embiid are they prepared to pay Jimmy Butler max contract. And if they are are they willing to go for five years or even four I think it's a squishy answer. I think Jimmy Butler if he doesn't get a five year offer is going to be is going to be gone. And I don't know if they can give them five he wants to play in Los Angeles. I didn't that's where the Lakers have have a move. The question is does your coach whoever it is. Does your president whoever? It is GM. Yeah. Do they think that the right decision is to have Jimmy Butler and LeBron James if you can get you Butler or is the better move excuse me to go sign Danny green and Robin Lopez and get in players who fit more than just the big star player. Right. And not sign a guy team building. Opposed to star-hunting. Yes, interesting. Let's see we all think that the clippers have a great chance to get co. I Leonard with their first salary slot, right? Yep. What do the clippers have planned with the second salary slut? That is the is the plan. I'd like to steal the Lakers because I'll bet it's a team building slot and they're not going after Jimmy Butler. Right. Or Chris Middleton. They're going after guys like Seth curry guys. Like, Danny green guys like Robin Lopez who could fit beautifully into a team. And to me, if I'm an interview if I'm coach interviewing it's a reverse interview. Right. I'm saying who's my boss? What's your plan? What are you gonna do at this draft? Big right. If you keep this picket eleven who are your four guys, you're looking at these are the things I want to know because I want to know how the Lakers looking at building this team. Great stuff man and good luck with the book. Koby Inc has Ono. Lebron? Can you believe I said that you know, what my hand, I can guess Ramona should write Kobe. That's doing very very well Toby would want to write it himself. Matter of fact, that's an actual company. I send you people like Kobe Bryant, thanks for coming. Appreciate all, right. Coming up next for you, purgatory Mason, Ireland, ESPN LA. Hey, it's per Dory. Hey, come on. Let's get after it. Let's get after it. You know, you've been a little disappointing in that regard. Yeah. I did. I haven't yet. Well, you know, what it was what we were just talking about. How many games you're working? You've got a lot of opportunities. We couldn't do Toronto. Because the nets game went so long. So I didn't even get into to do a free game hit. Right. I got. I gotta hit and it was off camera. Hey, by the way, so Toronto who I really like they just killed the Lakers twice this year. Yeah. Loses to Orlando. They're not in trouble. Are they don't think? So I still think they'll win the series and five or six games. And I think Eli down the stretch was qui-. He made a lot of big shot right deal. Like Augustine just had a really big shot for nine though. Here's the thing. Orlando plays really good defense. And I think there was a little bit of underestimating them, and I also think as much as I'd like Nick nurse that coach Toronto he only played coli thirty two minutes. And it's like this isn't the regular season. Do you gotta play him thirty eight thirty nine forty minutes. Yeah. Let's go. You know, by the way, did you happen to look at Kyle? Lowry's full stat line. Yes. Okay. So here's an amazing thing about Kyle Lowry. He did not score, right? George zero points. So he missed every shut he took. He didn't take very many shots and Gilly took nine over seven seven shots. Yep. He was the only starter on the raptors who was plus in plus minus. And he was plus eleven how what I think. That's just the pairings, you know. But I mean, if you miss every shot, you don't you don't impact the game. How are you plus eleven because they went on a twenty two run at one point. And he was out there at the end of the second quarter into the beginning of the second half. And he was out there for all of that. So that's kinda swung that individual plus minus as far as individual games is not usually that's a you. Gotta look at it as a big picture stat. Analytics again, what did you are you? So you're you don't buy them. It's to me. It's the same thing. You're like, Michael. Michael is very anti analytics, I believe in this that certain guys show up in the postseason in certain guys shrink in the postseason. No matter what if someone asks me, hey, tell me about coury. What do you think great regular season player? But in a postseason that dude is nowhere to be found. Okay. But so you don't believe in any analytics, no, I'm not. Get. Stats stats? I don't know. Why you're so scared of him. Yeah. You're why are you supposed to like, for example? Why do you think teams shoots? So any threes. I understand that part. I should say probably to the probability of making more threes or you hit more threes. And then another person's to you're gonna win a game. I that part of it. But that's analytics the analytics part of being plus eleven or minus two or whatever that some of that stuff. Yeah. Like, there's certain parts of analytics, I can do it. I understand. Right. So that just going to swing it back to the NBA, George. They weren't the Orlando wasn't the only team to go win on the road. The Sixers lost to the nets. And I actually think the sand is I got one I think I think this I could win that. But I think the the Sixers are in real legitimate trouble. I think that either a seven game series that they that they squeak by on or the nets win. What do you think? I think it's possible. Yeah. I had originally picked Philly and six, but now, I think it's absolute. I still think it's Philly and six. Yeah. Yeah. Still think it's although I mean, it's a quail overreact to one game. We did. We get suckered in it is just one game the six day does not look, right. No. And there was like a a rumor floating around that on the internet that he was out the reason his knee got dinged up again, allegedly again, I'm just, you know, discussing what was rumored was that. He was out and doing karaoke or something was jumping around. I mean, okay. Noel, Mason Mason feels about this. But George and Kirk is gonna go out. I've never asked you about this. Right K. Ben Simmons is dating KENDALL Jenner. Oh, you are the car dashing Kerr gorge. Yes. I I do James harden has been on the record. She's ruined him. She says he says it was the most difficult season of his career when he was dating Chloe that remember they were like an eight seat that year. And then all of a sudden they were like back in the right files after he was an MVP. So yeah, I do believe in her to you believe in the Kardashian curse too much. I believe in it to a certain degree. But there is just the one caveat. Okay. The one caveat, I'll always remember was two thousand and ten in Miami the Super Bowl, and I'm good friends, Reggie Bush. I remember, you know, we're all hanging out, and we had dinner, and he was he was with Kim Kim, then dinner with Kim. No. This was just on my radio show. She was on our show once you don't remember. Oh, no, I don't this was like the one night that he had like early in the week that it had to himself because he had a lot of stuff going on all week the media. This was the first night that we had out to go. Eat remember eating, and he was like man just I just can't wait to play. I can't wait to play. He goes out there and the New Orleans Saints. They win the Super Bowl. So. I mean, you could say on one hand they he was dating Kim and they wanna Super Bowl. But then after that his career kind of fizzled out a little show. Here's the thing. I don't watch the Kardashians. Watching them. I talk with you. I hear about it. Right. And I happen to flip through an article about rob Kardashian. Who's the one who gained a bunch of weight, right? Yes. He had a baby with black China. Right. Exactly. And he found that the thing he had to do put his life back together was to step out of the story. So you don't see him. He's not talked about right? He's getting his life together. When you're in that story, you are it is all consuming. The story is about you. And it goes twenty four seven. That's why I think the Kardashian effect is real. Yeah. Right. And that's what James Hardie Luther that. He he just everything was the show. Anyways, it he couldn't deal with it. Yeah. Tristan thompson. I mean, he just loves it though. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Right. But I think Tristan Thompson is not a guy who has real pressure on him. Like, James harden? You know, but he's in it, though, he wants to be a part of it. He does. Oh, hold on. To when he was a lake and look what happened to that. Man. Look happy. I think the curse actually is re it brings in an unnecessary pressure. That goes along with it and the whole cell phone thing had Philadelphia one that wouldn't have been an issue. It's because they lost the way Doris Burke called it out was pretty well. Because they're they're losing the game. They're in a game. And he looked like they're unfocused then div lame her though. No, I say go at it, man. That's that is that's a terrible. Look if they're winning the game. I don't think it's a big issue. But it's because they're losing the game. And they lost the game. Everybody's gonna make a big deal. So I gotta ask George. I you know, I suffered a terrible. Oh, how'd you feel in last week? Yeah. And so I'm driving home on Thursday. And basically you guys just took about twenty minutes and mocked me relentlessly. You know what you're down. I'm listening today. What up what these are? These are supposed to be my friend. And they brought up the fact that you had fallen flat on your face. And like just tripped on the dog stares. Well, no, we're talking about celebrity Gail the celebrity game the Mace, and then they showed me the video. And I was like I thought you look like you had died on that. Or it did look it did look worse. Now, it actually was it was that. Yeah. It was bent. They brought it up. Yeah. And then I I was like I I don't know what you're talking about. Because I wasn't here back. And then I saw it. And then yeah, we were like breaking it down. And then that was telling people to go to the video and. Yeah. Yeah. All right. So been Mace if you actually did have a concussion, you wouldn't have been able to drive home, right? No, I I had a concussion, but you I went to the doctor wasn't a serious concussion. Mild a mild concussion weird thing about it. Was it happened on Monday. I was fine on Tuesday right Wednesday. It started getting worse Thursday. It got bad. So now, you have a different guess perspective. When you hear NFL play. I felt like go to the beach in front of those little tents. I thought they showed that for me. You were foggy. Yeah. I was I was definitely something was wrong. Yeah. You wear your usual bubbly self. No, never Bessant. Honestly. That's why guys it takes them till Friday Saturday when you're in the concussion protocol. That's why we tweet like oh he had a mild concussion or a slight concussion. We're it's still a concussion, and it's going to take you three to four days to actually get cleared. So I don't know when you got clear maze. I never had a a diagnosis concussion. You never did. But you had diagnosed. Now, there's some times I did hit my head. And I I realized that now in today's in fill that was a concussion, but then back then it was just like a shake it off. You're all right. You're fine. Right. Like, see install. It's just a Abreu back. Then then when when did concussion protocol, did I guess it came into the end of your career well at the end of my career man in two thousand eleven I think it was really polcy BA because that's what they had to clean up because that's where the owners were trying to get back this and get back that and that's why they shorten the off season training. It was about player safety and that was at the forefront. And so that's when the NFL really, you know jumped on guys pretend like they don't have concussions. Don't they because they wanna play play? Yeah. Got what got gotta play there. There's just some guys who are like just they're so passionate. They love football so much that they don't wanna come off the field. I mean, I know guys who literally were not unconscious and so forth. Second they got up. I'm fine. I'm good. I'm good. Like, no. You're not like I saw you have to be helped on find. I'm good now. I'd have to shake it off as that's part of. Yeah. Well, I survived it. So good news for nice, by the way starting tonight. News for you guys starting tonight. Yes. For the reds Yoshio. Yup. That camp and cow farmer. Let's talk about that coming up Mason in Ireland. This is actually purgatory. So Donald Sears so's Kirk Morrison. ESPN LA purgatory. Yep. Mason Ireland Sodano and Kirk Morrison. You said earlier I was driving around. Thank you for listening. Of course means a lot to me. I am a p one you know, that you said you were in a bad mood. Why we're talking about the Lakers. Oh, don't you. Don't even come on. I just caught that part of it where you said. He is not pleased that rob Pelinka's one hundred percent in charge day. I mean you and I talked about that. All right. I wonder we are one hundred percent same. It's brutal. I mean, I don't know Plaski killed him in the LA times too. Oh, yeah. I said that to Mason. Yeah. I mean, plus keeps dead on right on this one down honest because he's agrees with us. Correct. But I mean the net. This is all on genie. Now, you've got an opportunity to reset. And instead, you're kind of hanging onto Pelinka. And you're not you're gonna let him make the coaching. Search. You're not bringing anybody in order of the way. It's being done is night. The right hire basketball, unless if it works, then you gotta go. Oh my God. What did she know that we didn't know if it doesn't work, then it's all her, right? But it's a lot like when LeBron came here. And then they signed all those guys that couldn't shoot and everybody including some of us like me were saying what the hell of doing? And then it ended up coming to fruition like Rex. Yeah. A lot of foretelling second-guessed. We I guess right. I guessing this I want to be the first one in on I guessing high to spe- second guessing, I we were talking on the show earlier that I miss I do too. We come back tonight CEO as a member of the Cincinnati Reds along with Matt camp farmer. They basically just took all our guys and moved them to Cincinnati, right and Mason pointed out earlier that what what was your source. On this that we're where they were talking it. Okay. And I read it I read it really good dodger beat writer for the LA times. Basically said that if when once you hear this even guys like me who didn't want to go have to go. Yeah. I read my. You know, first of all game two World Series against the Astros Puig out of position on an Alex bregman line drive should have been in the right position. He wasn't ready for the pitch. You gotta late jump. Here's out of position shaded too far towards center field. Right. You know, what he cost them game too? And that's sort of a microcosm of of what we has done. He makes exciting place, but he often and this is straight from anti McCullough ignores the positioning card distributed dodger defenders before games, according to six people familiar with the situation he on several occasions ripped up the card in front of the outfield. Coach, George Lombard and left the pieces on the ground. This is just a main Kirk. I said earlier that if you're going to do this. You can do it you. But you better be a great player. If you're not a great player. They're not gonna put up with your nobody's got more credibility in that dodger locker room than Justin Turner. Justin Turner, said this the frustrating part is that if Puig was good and played good. Then we would be really really really a good team. So everyone wanted him to be that good player. He didn't see it that way. He just thought as he was just going to show up and do whatever he wants. The best player you ever played with your best teammate in terms of talent in terms of talent. And the best player ever who Randy moss? Okay. So he's perfect perfect. Actually said this week would take plays off. That's exactly the knock on unready mon-. So at what point do you say, oh my God. He's too talented. We just gotta let him be him. And it will point you say he's too distracting. We've got to cut bait. Never never happened with Randy because he was just too talented. Well, wait was he only played one year with you didn't into okay. But then they gave up on them. I think he was the coaching carousel gave up on him. And it was you know, Al Davis in what he wanted Mr. late day late out Davis what he wanted with the team. And by the way, this was they treated him to the patriots. Right. That's when his career took off. He got he got that. Unbelievably she's. Example of this does that in Cincinnati. It's going to drive me crazy. But Randy moss everywhere. He's been Kirk it ended badly it into badly. Because here's a guy that wanted to do things sort of what we're talking about a hall of Famer, though rice, I Bala no doubt Famer. So when you talk about when I remember when I first met Randy. So I'm thinking we're getting you know, all the stories of what I heard in Minnesota, right? You know, here's a guy exceptional talent. But he's just not a good hard-working guys. You know, bad locker room guide is what you hear from the media. And this is the this is the the reason why I never listened to what media has to say about certain players until I get a chance to meet them for myself Randy walks in and remember, the first interactions with them we introduce we're talking, and I remember he had these purple in white thirteen's. So when I say thirteen those Jordan's numbers, Michael Jordan, number thirteen. I was like damn I never seen those in the store. He's why you own them. I was lying. He kicks off his feet and just throw them to keep them. I still have them in my in my wow player edition, never before seeing Michael Jordan. So wasn't a bad guy. Just wanted to do things his way wasn't a bad guy. But the thing was his talent on the field. When he put that hand up. You knew it was over you might as well the next scene because he was going to score touchdown who's make plays that showed you the his exceptional talent. That when the ball wasn't going his way he probably wasn't working his day. So here's the here's the difference. Randy moss is one of the great wide receivers. Correct. Week is a good player league is a two seventy hitter with twenty homers and sixty seven RBI's. That's who he is your. Would you say more as Randy moss potential? No. I would not you think. Wait, didn't they say New York? In the article, though, they compared him to somebody like when he was drafted that they said or when they were scouting him excuse me out of Cuba. They they compared him to one of the all-time great. No, it was someone more recent than that. I'd have to go back and check. But in the McCulloch article in the in the LA times, he was compared very early on in the article he was compared to somebody who's an all time. Great in it just escaped me right now, George knowing what we know now after reading the McCulloch article should the dodgers have given up on week. I wouldn't have because I always feel like a player's going into a contract years. I said. I thank you want. That guy you want the guy who's who's trying to play Adrian Bill trae in his contract your hit forty eight home runs. They, but he hasn't been so far, right? No. He's not. He's never hit thirty home runs. And it's okay. But his struggles early on show, they played in Mexico, obviously in Monterey, and there's a video MLB dot com. Tweet it and he's talking to I think Dexter Fowler. And a couple of other guys in Spanish Fowler in English. But a couple of the other guys in Spanish, but the Fowler conversation. He's like, hey, man. How's it going everything? Good. And he's like man things are great, whatever. And he's like, but man, I've been struggling because it's so cold in Cincinnati that I don't even want them to pitch me inside because it hurts. So I think some he, you know, he's at least attributing some of the struggles early on on whether I I mean, I think he's going to bat to seventy with twenty two homers and seventy eight is, but it it why? And I bet you I'm not far off just winging that I don't think it's going to be a situation. You're like, wow. We should have never done it. I don't either you have to do a reset and this team needed a big shake. And in fact, about losses you needed to shake up lookout jocks off to a great start. Alex Verdoux goes off to a great start. They needed to make room for for these guys. What I found interesting in that article too. Is that the two guys who defended him? Yeah, we're key. K and Janssen. Yep. Both guys international. Yeah. Yeah. True. And I think that game a little benefit. Hey, our lesson for we get out of here. Clippers warriors game tonight do the clippers even when it game in that. He's. He's not we're we're more concerned as warrior fans that Kevin Durant has keep his emotions together. Because now with one technical what he's only got four more to go. Now you seven seven so, but yeah with this mini games. Still left teams are going to try to go at him. So that's why we're trying to we don't want that technical foul creating Patrick Beverley is going to try and push peoples buttons. That's why then Golden State is a thirteen point favorite show. Here's an eight. All right side of that came very bad game is Golden State the authors found the comparison the comparison in the story. It said Scott director Logan, white believed. We could be the LeBron James of baseball. That's what it was. That is not happened. No. But they did compare them to someone like Randy moss. He showed flashes early on. You were like, oh man this guy, and you know, what with a different approach and a different work ethic. I think he could have been great. I think he solid I think they gave up on a solid air. But he needed a mentor early on someone who can check him at the door and say follow me. He never had. No, he didn't have that. So we done here. Renault gonna stop by. That'd be fun. You can get Kirk to cry. Yeah. Well, that's the thing. Rinaldi's like, Mr. cry. I almost herreid watching listen to his commentary. They played it on the get up today. And I'm like, oh, it's so so he's the best. I mean, he just captured the emotion, I think he's gonna make us cry on the air like they were re-casting, Jerry. Maguire time is fifty five. Okay. Five fifty five. They were good dude, though, if they were recasting, the Jerry Maguire movie, remember ROY Firestone was. It's like, you're not gonna cry ROY. It would be you're not gonna make me cry Tom. All right. That's the purgatory coming up next the Sodano show. Kirk Morrison is here. Among other helpers. Tom Rinaldi Mason in Ireland in the book, see tomorrow, noon, ESPN LA.

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Dan Patrick Show - Hour 3 - Michael Wilbon (04-22-19)

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"Thank you for listening to this podcast one sports net. Production available on apple podcasts and podcast. One. And now I thought from Geico motorcycle if took fifteen minutes to click on the banner ad entitled, you won't believe what these child stars look like now be dissatisfied and kinda sad about how the child stars look. And now your computer is plagued by incessant pop up ads on this can't be to add insult to injury. You could've used those fifteen click bait minutes to switch your motorcycle insurance to Geico. Geigo fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more on motorcycle insurance. Hey, it's shaggy. Now, the DNB also we're going over it's time for the second half of the season to get underway. It's a tight battle in both the western and eastern conferences as teams vying for playoff position that I've been saying for months, there's only one place again on all the action, then online dot AG sign up today for a free account and use the promo code podcast one. And when you make your first deposit your receive a fifty percent bonus. That's promo code podcast. One NBA silent is heating up. Don't miss out on all the fun better Alon dot AG online sportsbook experts experts experts here he is joined by four danettes this Dan, Patrick. Final hour on this Monday. Hope you had a great weekend and in the dentist and Patrick show. We'll check in with Michael wilpon from pardon the interruption talk some NBA with him not only the playoffs the chippiness. But also the Lakers going to zero in name their head coach. We'll talk to Pete Prisco CBS sports dot com. He stirred things up a little bit questioning the cardinals taking Cuyler Murray number one overall and his latest mock draft is out and it's not Kyla Murray. Going to the cardinals. He's got Nick Bosa going to the cardinals follow by Quinton Williams of Alabama. And then the jets taking Josh Allen Montanez sweat to the raiders Devon white LSU to the buccaneers Dwayne Haskins to the giants at Oliver to the Jags. Yeah, you're probably going. Wait. Where's Kyle Murray? He's not even the second quarterback off the board. According to Pete Prisco dr-. Drew lock going to the Broncos at ten then Keiler Murray going thirteen to the dolphins. We'll talk to Pete Prisco from CBS sports dot com. He'll join us coming up here in a moment. You like get in touch with the program as we always do every Monday best and worse to the weekend your opportunity to tell us what you saw that. You liked. You didn't like and there were certain Lee lot going on this weekend. Got a poll question. Mclovin update the poll results will Kayla Murray. Go number one despite p Prisco's mantra sixty eight percent, so yes. You can stream live sports on our live. You can stream this show and be our live dot com for free watch the UA fa Champions League UEFA Europa league as well. Be our live dot com, and you can watch on audience central to Thirty-nine direct TV. We say good morning to our three hundred sixty radio affiliates around the country and our. And our Twitter handle at DP show. We had Louis Riddick on last hour. He's former NFL player noun analysts for the mothership. He loves Dwayne Haskins not a little law. He loves him thinks said he is got star written all over him. And if a team like the giants drafts him let him sit for a year, and he's going to be like, Patrick, Mahomes, not in style. But maybe in productivity but Louis Riddick love. I said who is the best quarterback. And it wasn't even close. It was it was Dwayne Haskins out of Ohio State best player in the draft. I think he liked Devin Bush out of Michigan is the best player in the draft. So Louis Riddick. Shaken some things up Celtics sweep the Pacers warriors raptors blazers up three one three days left to the NFL draft tonight bucks at the pistons rockets at the jazz had a couple of tweets people talking about. Russell westbrook. This is from twenty four in WJ Westbrook shooting is the biggest issue for okay? See he shoots too much. That's part of why Durant left you shooting. Thirty six percent from the field. Thirty percent from for these playoffs. He shot less during the regular season. But the playoffs have been different. Yeah. He giveth any take the way, and it didn't take long for people to sour on him with his triple doubles. What do you do with those triple doubles? What do you have to do to get those? Triple doubles are your team, you know, is your team winning with those triple double. So there's a lot of ways to define greatness. And I think people fell into this habit. It was convenient that he's averaging a triple double that hasn't happened since the early sixties. He's got to be the most valuable player. He might have had the most impressive season that didn't mean that he was the most valuable player. It's like James harden is he the most valuable is that the most impressive because sometimes. You know, they don't give you Pramod IRS when you vote in a league shouldn't because it should be open to your interpretation. But sometimes when you are trying to assess value, we look at who had the most impressive stats, and that's not always the most valuable person player. All right. I mentioned Pete Prisco from CBS sports dot com. Pete, you're shaking up here a little bit. Thank you. Helping me. Do my job recap your your story here with what the cardinals you think we're going to do at the top of the draft. Yeah. I do not think you're gonna take Culliver and again, obviously subject to change. But from what I've been told it'll either be cornered warriors, Nick posts. And I think they're leaning more toward Nick boast. And obviously, you know, there's been some talk a lot of talk about Kyle. And I think a lot of that had to be ownership driven. I think the ownership group strongly considered him. But I think the football people would rather drafted defensive player and stay with particular quarterback particularly after trading up last year. You don't forget that they traded up to get Josh Rosen unfairly didn't give him a chance to succeed last year. So I think that a lot, but I think they're gonna pass culinary. I guess the only question I had about that. Is you bring in cliff Kingsbury in? Yes, he's a quarterback whispered. But if you're bringing in cliff Kingsbury, it feels like you're doing something maybe drastic or you're gonna change things up philosophy wise. That's where I thought Cuyler Murray makes more sense with cliff Kingsbury than Josh Rosen. Does. Yeah. And again, probably solar that office. But if Kingsbury is good as they think is as good as everybody thinks he is and he can make Josh Rosen working his offense as well. And again, you gotta work to what you have not fit. What you weren't to to your offense than in the other thing. There is Kingsbury not making the decision. Remember, he didn't even get the higher defensive staff. The cardinals hired his defensive staff for him. So that tells you you know, what his status is inside the building and granted they can grow. And I think he's a smart guy a bright guy. But I also think he can make it work with Josh Rosen. Do you believe that they have trade offers for that number one pick? I think they'd be open to it. And I think they're listening. Yes. I do I think there will be somebody. That's interested in that one over OPEC. And I think the cardinals will be open to it. Now. How far down will they go that just depends on what the author is. But I think ideally, they'd like to move down and gets an extra picks and still be able to get a top level player. But that means you're not gonna move down that far. Do you think that they've gotten legitimate good offers for Josh Rosen? No, I do not. I you know, I heard one yesterday and there have been validated. But that the giants of offer them a couple of texts for him. I don't know if that's true. And I have checked on it yet. But I don't think they're getting what they thought they would get for Josh Rosen in terms of offers. And that's why I think they're kinda reevaluating it. They would probably take if they were gonna do it again. I don't think they are going to do. But if they were going to do it. I think they would take a high to form. I don't know if they're gonna get that for you kinda Murray slipping to the dolphins at thirteen. That's that's pretty good. Yeah. Yeah. And that's my what they should do my. Oh, yeah. He's got a phone so team. But again, though, you have to this question. Let's just say here that the you know, the cardinals do pass on and the raiders don't take four where does he go? I mean, 'cause I don't think Gettleman at Dick's would say column or I don't think that's that's his quarterback. I don't think John Elway at ten would take him. Because I think he's looking more prototypical standards the pockets of quarterback baby through lock so eleven to the Bengals I don't know like grab will give up on the way to go. So there's always that possibility that if he doesn't go one, that's great. Does that sound if he does not go one he could take a little bit of the tumble, and maybe Miami sits thirty folding their less. Louis Riddick could be SPN was on a half hour ago. And he loves Dwayne Haskins. It's not even close. He's like, you know, this guy's got it all and it almost feels like somebody's gonna make a huge mistake passing up undoing Haskins. What do you think of his I? Grade. For once in my life. I think I agree with Louis. I love Louis. I agree. I think half is the guy in this draft. And I think he should be the the first quarterback taken. He stands in the pocket. He can make all the throws your smart kid. He's a prototypical, you know quarterback. And granted both and asked him to get a look at one thing that the winter keep coming back to is. They weren't really want your store, you know. And that's the concern. You know, the, where's the, you know, the big talent evaluation gains. The really I wait a minute. I think there's a lot there. So there's some concern. But I agree with I had a good one of the quarterback in this draft. It would be definitely Wayne asking who changes the draft. What team? I think Arizona could they don't take money, but which teams great sages address. Probably I let's see what Oakland does I'm real curious there. You know, you got a big push from people in the building the get more defensive help. But you know, how John is you know, you get them with those players. So that'll be an interesting dynamic I and by the way, I wrote that may actually loves asking a lot. So that would be interesting if they do have very sitting there what they do if they do go quarterback. And I don't think they aren't going quarterback, by the way, they going to teach them. How do you know when somebody's telling you the truth Pete? You have to believe the the person because look we've all been lied to in this profession lot. And this is the lying season. So you gotta try and trust the person. And there are a lot of guys that even you believe over the years, and you know, they're doing this for thirty years, you filled up these trust. And at this time of the year. They might not be totally honest with you. I just don't I don't care if you're not telling me that, you know, the great truth, but don't lie to me that that that's the concern. If you're, you know, don't tell me if you don't want to but don't lie to me and leave me the different direction. I don't know if the NFL has changed that teams are looking for an Aaron Donald, of course, hard to find something like that. But that I love Quinton Williams. Like, I just think what he does to disrupt the pocket from inside up. The middle is of such value quarterbacks always say, I can chip you on the edge. It's when you're coming up the middle. I see you you see me and. You know, Aaron Donald was so disruptive last year. That's why looked at Quinton Williams. And I just thought I don't think it's a it's a no brainer to me. I think he's the best player in the draft your thoughts on Williams, and you know, where where he's going and what kind of player you think you'll be? I love love of the power player quickness. And and remember he moved inside from an so there's a lot of athletic ability there as well. I think he, you know, Aaron Jona, you know, failed miserably in Lubbock can be I mean, they took him in the first round they thought he'd been dominant inside player and it hasn't worked out that way. So I, you know, wouldn sassy, I if it was was the first overall picky because he is such a good football player who could also play end then. And so for me, I think he Oliver Oliver both. They're going to be really good inside players on the deck level beat. If it comes through you're going to look like a genius on Thursday night. If it doesn't come through to look like an idiot. With all your little dog on the nicotine to look. Guys, Pete wants to know of you think he's looked like an idiot before. No coming late. Look is. He prescribes calling little guy Pete. Wow. Thank you. Good luck on Thursday night. They started up a little bit. There doesn't think Arizona's going to take column earn one Yama club. And the way he said it to is like, oh, it's football people. Don't like it'd be said is if it was just a matter of fact, he has me totally. I've always the last person who we talked to the one. That's true. Yeah. Whoever we talked to in the final hour on Thursday. That's where we're gonna go. Yes. Mclovin. Right. After the past hour. I now think that all these teams are making a big mistake packs and Dwayne Haskins and column is gonna free fall this morning. When I walked on the opposite is awesome. I wanted to know Iowa's got two players too tight ends who are probably going to be drafted in the first round. And I ask research staff. I said have we ever had a college that had two tight ends drafted in the first round. And we couldn't find anybody. The only college that had two tight ends drafted in the first three rounds was Morgan state that was nine thousand nine hundred seventy Raymond Chester. He went to the raiders who was great and era person in the third round of the cold. But you got to tight ends at Iowa. And they're going to go in the first round it looks like. Phone calls coming up, eight seven seven three DP show, Email address DP, Dan, Patrick dot com. Yes, I found a couple examples of team having second round and a fifth round things. Like that. Like, I think as Washington nineteen ninety eight Cam Cleveland second round, Jeremy Brigham fifth round. There's other ones second round seventh-round fourth-round six-run. But no one's ever had a first round and even as high as third round tied intake. Yeah, it's crazy that when you think about all of that tell you got two first round draft picks at the same position. Mclovin. Did you see this story about Bill Belichick and will he end up? I think he's like less than sixty victories away from being the old time winner in you know, I got some some numbers here. So Bella check turned sixty seven the other day, and you don't find too many NFL quarterbacks or coaching at age sixty seven Bella check would become the NFL's winningest coach all time. With fifty six more coaching victories regular season and postseason. Don, Shula's three forty seven toward channels three twenty four bell check at two ninety two. Shula coach thirty three years. How is forty years? Bella check is coach twenty four but you also had house at a twelve game regular season, schedule Shula coached. I think most of his career what they fourteen game schedule. But you're looking at coaches who coached over the age of sixty seven, and I'm finding George Halas, and I think Paul Brown. That's it. What Bella check is doing at this age doesn't happen. How has coached his last game? He was seventy two. I'm not going to be shot. If he's coaching in his seventies. I don't I don't know. What else? He does goes back to that conversation. We had with Brent Musburger when we're talking about Joe Paterno. There are just certain people who have a certain job, and they're going to die doing that. And Brent Musburger said Joe paternal will die as the head coach at Penn State. Now, he he had to step down. But you had the controversy, but he would have stayed and he would have died as they head coach at Penn State certain guys. That's what they do. They coach as long as they can. And when they're done it's like their life is taken away from them. Yes. Mclovin. I mean, I don't just not political. But our president is seventy two in the two guys running against them are in their late seventies. Why can't you coach felt seventy-two? Feels like that's not too old for Belzec to me feels like he'd be fine. I think energy and Bella check looks. Like he's in shape. He doesn't look like he's sixty seven. I mean, he looks better. But I think the energy is what you need in any of these jobs, the older, you get it's like your enthusiasm or your energy is what leaves you. And Bella check seems like he's still consumed by it that he he still has that quest for perfection and at age sixty seven I I get the feeling why not stick around for five more years become the all time leader in victories ample if you look at regular season and playoffs. He's averaging about thirteen wins plus a year. So he would need four typical. Bella check seasons to get right there. Shula. But I don't know if that's important to him. I I'm not sure he knows the history of the game. I think having the most Super Bowls is important because that's a team victory. Now that that we had this as far as individual honors. I don't I don't know if he's concerned about that. I think he likes the fact that he is coached this team two more Super Bowls than any other coaches done. But I don't know if he cares about the all time victories. Yeah. He has. He averages about his winning percentage for his career as sixty eight percent. There's a couple I have two coaches all time whoever's more the seventy percent in their career for victories. Ooh. Anyone wanna shot the average over seventy percents? I'm sorry. Their career winning percentage is over seventy percent only. Couple. John madden. That's right. And then there's two other ones. I got one more for sure. Okay. How long did he coach not that long? But along up to he's very well known. Chuck knoll got a trophy named netra. Oh, Vinny Lombardi insofar in John Madden. Well, man. Until Lombardi one over seventy percent of his game. Seventy four percent as head coach of his games. 'cause they started out the Packers weren't great when they first started out in then he had a couple of bad years with the Washington Redskins nine. Oh, he had someone believable runs. There were they were they won the first two Super Bowls. But the the Browns were probably a better team pre Super Bowl than the Green Bay Packers. Were they were winning championships? It's interesting seventy percent. We'll take a break. Michael wilbon from pardon the interruption joins us coming up next. It's nineteen after the hour. Dan, Patrick show in sports at trade can make or break your team, a good one community championship. But bad one can set your franchise back for years. It's no different when it comes to selling or trading in your car, you need to make choices and with truecar. You gotta star on your roster. Just go to truecar enter your license plate number and watch. How your car's details? Pop up then enter a few. Questions got a sports package or moon roof watches, a bump up your car's value in real time. High mileage you're a new it's going to cost you. But now, you know, exactly how much danger was you can strategize your next move. Once you're done. 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Do you like not having to drive somewhere to pick something up? This is a way to do it. It just may be the most rewarding thing on your to do list today. That's Geico dot com. They always told will he was too short to play basketball. But will never listen. We'll let his work as do the talking for him. Always in the gym always running drills will knew where there was a will. There was a way and he was will. But then after a second child was born be realized the pros were all way better than him. So we'll gave up and buried his high tops in a tearful ceremony. But one day he heard the geiko could save money on car insurance. So he switched and saved a bunch, which was awesome. Michael wilpon from pardon the interruption will join us coming up a little bit here. Steve Kerr, raise some questions about Russell Westbrook post game. No comment next question. Kerr wall taking time to discuss Golden State's win over the clippers was asked about Russell Westbrook's controversial next question response in its ramifications for the NBA, I think it's dangerous for the league's Steve Kerr said I just feel that we have to be very careful as the league fans love the game social dynamic, the fashion, but more than anything they love the connection. They feel to the players. I think it's important for the players to understand that it's a key dynamic to this league. I don't think this is a healthy dynamic for the league for any player. Any team any local media any national media. This is how it played out after Oklahoma city's game where Paul George's with Russell Westbrook. And this is how it sounded very Trammell Viagra and Russell first both teams struggled offensively is sort of a slug of the game. Both teams got going in the second half. What happened that sort of reversed the reverse the the tone of this game? Next question. Yeah. The the fourth quarter. They you got a fifteen point lead. They catch up one app in the last six seven eight minutes that reverse the momentum. And that you guys burst back away. Curiouser, portland. Abune paul. I did you dunk there at the end of the game. Next question. If you're watching on audience channel, two thirty nine direct TV, the NBC sports network tackler. Yeah. I have a cone of silence that I put here the new man cave. So mclovin and fritzy in paulie had no idea that I was doing this seat and got a heads up last Friday after everybody left the studio and that allows fritzy to be in. Let's see if we can listen. Okay. So we we have a cone of some sort of cone of silence really mutant nicely. I it's it's luxurious. It's like this circular blue velvet thing. Yeah. And then I just press this button that I have here, and he reached out from underneath the velvet give a thumbs up as Michael wilbon is ready. Yeah. So Todd doesn't know. It's coming totally control. Was that all about? Yeah. I had no idea that was happening. Yeah. Give me out of here. It's pretty funny though. A few more seconds. I would have been getting very claustrophobic. Wait, are you? Okay. With that. I'm okay. As long as you know, if it's more than ten fifteen seconds. Then, you know, there could be an oxygen deficiency and panic setting, you know, I don't like to be in those confined places. What's okay back memories of the whole brewers mascot thing when I was wearing the whole chef uniform on again, see I would like seriously can have this waiter. It's not a lot of room back here. But you're not in a plastic bag. I just I feel my mind is telling me that you're stuck in the elevator. Or you're going to like. Lose oxygen. Okay. It's like the minds playing tricks on me like I gotta get outta here. Okay. I like that. But like fifteen seconds or so you're pretty good. Even if we could do ten, okay, I just I was trying to be respectful to you during your John was very funny, actually until I have an exciting to you because you're trying to track Michael wilbon vaca. And he's always available. He's always punctual. Yeah. You guys didn't know that we'd have hydraulics in here. I've Lynch new man cave. He's Michael wilpon co host of pardon the interruption, Mike. Good morning. How are you? I'm good. How are you doing? Okay. I I wanted to ask you about what Steve Kerr was talking about the whole Russell Westbrook. The next question now pulled George's involved in it, and I it feels like the NBA allowed Gregg Popovich to get away with this stuff. And now the players are just saying, you know, what I don't want to answer questions certainly to this reporter in Oklahoma berry Trammell. But what would you do if you're Adam silver nothing? I think the more tension call to it. I never you know, me a long time professionally I don't I don't chase. Don't chase the crowd and chasing a guy with a group of cameras. I'm not I mean, talking to athletes is not that important, and I talked to athletes, we're living is not that important and. So I'm saying that good Popovich also what people have to know. And you know, this Gregg Popovich is in the top one percent of guys who were not on camera or electron in a very public setting helps reporters how many chats have you? And I had with pop on game days. It might let me they'll times where I've gone to his office. And I might have wanted to be there five minutes and was there forty five. So there's another whole side of the great properties that people don't see on television. Because he doesn't want to whatever the game is. Yeah, I don't care. I've had longer conversations that matter more with drug profits and all in coaching basketball. But these players don't want to be told, you know, Russell Westbrook Pelham. I mean, don't tell them did. Then then Russell Westbrook case, which by the way, this is why I have so many people associated with Oklahoma City that I like I wanna see that in a playoff any playoff. You know, going back to Billy Donovan who I covered when he was in college when I was covering the big east. I mean starting with Billie Dunn eventuate Weaver, their assistant GM was Washington guy. And a great guy somebody I've known for a while to to Paul George who now is being Westbrook. And that that's not even George is not even weeds, the sweet guy, Paul George, and so they're being dragged know what? So what we should have learned from pro football. I if you know, there's then most of these sound bites are garbage. Most of the quotes I seen all guys all people are business understand under the age of fifty s analytics they wanna put numbers together. They only know how to tell a narrative half the time hundred spin one. And so you get these quotes you get these electron appear. I don't need that. It's a waste of my time as a consumer of the product. So Russell Westbrook. Was that I started saying I got turned around. I started. I I want. I want him out of the playoffs. Russell westbrook. Great player. Great. Great. Great great. Great player. I certainly have them on my second team all be valid this year 'cause they have heartening curry first team guards. I have Westbrook. And I don't know and they may Lillard second team guards. I want Westbrook out. There are people there. Plenty of people who don't say next question. They mean lilies. One of them. There's no more enjoyable person to talk to in the NBA, then Damian Lillard I want to see him advance. And I want Westbrook out that so you know, what pretty soon west? I have nobody to talk to you next week because his will be out. Hopefully, and that's the way I look at that. I'm not this whole begging people, and they're gonna have policies. Yeah. You know? I just I don't I'm not chasing guys. Talk to them. It's not that important Michael wilpon ESPN, pardon the interruption, by the way, we're in the same category for the sports. Emmy outstanding studio show daily that you one that thing enough already. Can't you let some other people have known on our show. My no not our show. No, no, come on. Now. No now in hiding some Emmys, I'm not buying their you got I had best studio host. But I'm talking about, you know, the show stuff. Yeah. This are second nomination. We lost to MLB tonight last year. You know, what they really you know, what Dan they're really good. I'm just saying, you know, it'll be tonight. It's something. I mean, that's something. I watch. I mean, I, you know, they're really good. I don't relish going up against him. Either. Would you let's say you one because you know, Tony's not going to travel to New York. But but you could be there, and you could go up and just say, look, we're not worthy of this. I think the Dan Patrick show. And look I'll do the same. This is I used to ask Charles to do. And somehow it changed the categories because Charles and Kenny and Ernie and now shack or not in our category anymore. But when they used to win this thing every year we were in their category. And I would just say the Charleston I or I'd be Charles's house. Anyway, they're Zona like Chuck you got like a leather. He's he just go up and say, you know, like my friends to have on. And actually when we finally won one the first literally the first call I got I I was informed by Barclay because I wasn't in New York. Charles called in sick. Congratulations. I go on what? And I'm like, okay. I think I got it. We finally want. Maybe maybe we could go out after the ceremony. I got pretty good. He'll group they will will kick it. We'll we'll celebrate likely want. We would let me I am. I am I wrong about you'll have to chase people. You got people who come on with you every day for years. You don't have to chase the one or two people who say next question really is. A Russell Westbrook said anything that important in the last four years that you need ki- talked to him. No, no. So why just to chase? We're going to treat this like the prom Queen. I want you to go out with me. And so even if I don't like you that much. I you gotta do it needs to be a rule. Well, I think the NBA wants the fans to tune in after the game. And then you get to you know, if I was a player, I would take advantage of this. And I said this a long long time ago, you know, after they said, hey to Steve Nash and Alan Iverson clean up your act, and then they had, you know, this dress code, and I said you're gonna get guys who were going to go in with like a Nike suit on like Nike will start creating Armani stuff and guys weather own brands, Dwayne Wade like then they started doing it. And that's what I would do. But I think I don't know. Russell Westbrook cares about his brand it feels like he does. But then he gets there in any just says next question, and, but that's part of his desk part of his appeal and appeal as rebel, okay? I mean, it's fine. Like, I don't hold any again. I ain't gonna change the way I feel about Russell Westbrook's play. Or when it comes to me voting on these things. I mean, I was certainly one of Nellie voted him before him MVP once they might have done it twice. I mean, the guys he's an all time. Great player does that mean I need to hear him. No. It doesn't I go. And there's so many people in that league, Dan. There's so many people NBA who are Pleat chatterboxes who are engaged all the time. I mean, I was I was in Brooklyn. I mentioned I was in Brooklyn on the weekend. I couldn't have had just two or three encounters with Joel Embiid. You people can dislike what he says. Or the way he goes, I love it. Love him. There's there's so for every Westbrook and Paul George seems to drag along with them. Now, there's like a hundred and fifty guys. No, I'm sorry. Two hundred guys who are perfectly willing after a game to engage on whatever level their personality. Take. Takes it. And I'm I'm I actually about the I this too many guys talked to about Westbrook. I just so I had this conversation over the weekend. I think Mr Tony actually about Westbrook and how Paul Georgia's being Westbrook. And this is not a good move for Paul George. If I if I'm a land that is he's engaging. But you'll just great to talk to great. But, you know, next question LeBron James's role with who's going to be the next head coach doesn't why why are they interviewing people feels like don't they just go to the Brown and say LeBron who do you want, Dan? I think this is more a case of LeBron specifically doesn't do that. And he says, no, you guys hire you want you go through the private nobody believes that Mike. Well, he he he makes them do that. And then he passes judgment on it. Right. I mean people talking about pass aggressive. No smart enough to understand what path aggressive news all the time. But I think in this case, that's what. He does. I, you know, they knew they knew what they were getting they know what they're getting with LeBron and the one short there's only one shortcoming in his career to me. And is that about the number of rings? The Ron James to me is is on my personal nothing anybody else. But mount Rushmore of of pro basketball. It's Russell magic Jordan. And LeBron has I guess now for me replace bird because the bird was that person for about twenty five years, and the one shortcoming is LeBron hasn't been coached hard. And by the way, I know that a couple of people on that mount Rushmore field that way he hadn't been coke start. He hasn't accepted it, and he didn't have it in college because he didn't go. He might not have wanted people say now, but still suppose Mike she chef ski, I'm like, no, no, no that ship is not not that might couldn't do it. Or wouldn't. It's just that. He Mike is gonna coach LeBron heart at this point. No. I mean, I don't know that that you know, he didn't have a Chuck Daly. He didn't have a Phil Jackson. He didn't have a duck Collins. He didn't have. I mean, he he had Paul Cyrus for awhile. How'd that go all sides approach, your heart? Right. I mean, so so he didn't he doesn't want it. He doesn't he he's one without it. He's not going to have it. I know players. I know all time old guys who think that LeBron truly would have been the goat by miles. If he had had coaching that he took too hard coaching. And but it hasn't and he's one and it worked, and he's going to be a billionaire, and he can say, I'm sorry. Why did I need that again? Maybe he didn't make that the times have changed. How many how many guys get that in this AAU world we live in? But that's that's what could be presented was then you could make the case fairly easily that that's the one four. Yeah. Yeah. I I'm I had not heard that. I had not thought of that with LeBron that if he had somebody who would stand up to him what that would have done. Then I hadn't either again a couple of let's just say top ten players all time. He'll said that to me and then in one of them during a game and said, listen, you see why is about LeBron playing in the post two years ago in the finals or not doing it and pay play in the post for a couple of reasons. Why you it's it's it's how you get rest when you're playing forty four minutes in a playoff game. It's also how you open up for the floor for teammates when you're the best passer perhaps in the league, which Laurent is and was and they talked about how that would have helped that team win. It's lesser than say the warriors in terms of just physical talent guys are injured, whatever. And I heard that from a couple of Alzheimer's, and I and I I hadn't thought of it either. Because that's why they're they think of it because they see it they feed the game in ways that even people who observe it all the time for leaving don't. So why we tap into them? And as soon as I heard it, Dan, I was like, Yep. Yep. That's right. That's right. One thing. I wanted to bring up to you. And I don't know if anybody has an answer to it. We recognize Babe Ruth in his greatness in baseball. But with Wilt Chamberlain, we go. Yeah. But you know, he averaged fifty and a season. And but who is he playing against like, why is it that wilt, we don't give wilt the benefit of the doubt. But we do Babe Ruth who was playing before the sport was segregated. And what we'll did like that didn't really happen. And so that I don't know. I just I it's it's weird that we we value something in the twenties. But something in the sixties didn't really happen because we don't include what wilt did. Well. You know, that's a great topic. I mean, that's that's so I mean, I work with somebody who is just older than us enough. Tony to be a wilt guy. He's a real guy. And he says exactly what would you say what you're asking about now? And I would say two things one. We'll didn't win enough. He wants to he didn't win enough. Relative to a guy hit the play against ev- sixteen times a year one whatever it eleven, of course, was Ross. And but I was I think there's something else because I grew up with a father who was a real guy. But you know, I look at these things now, and it's not numbers. We'll play some great teams people say well if we'll to play with guys as great as rough. No, that's wrong. He did we'll played with. I mean, you know, one person I've I've I've gotten to know on the phone recently. And he's one of my idols because he did play a for the bulls for a while. But he played on real nineteen sixty seven championship team. It's Chet Walker. Jeff. Jeff Walker's a hall of Famer, but all the people that will play with he played with Jerry, West and Elgin Baylor for God's sake. I don't wanna hear the the Russell played with better players for Tommy Heinsohn. He wouldn't he wasn't as good as as Elton Baylor. Even though they played the safely the same position. It's that that to me is why I can't put real as much as I love everything about wilt as a little kid. I can't put him with Russell. And I can't put him with Kareem. 'cause he played with great players. What happened, you know? They were up three one in series on the Celtics. They were up to our series on the Celtics. They should have one more. And he was great player. So I think that's okay to hold that accountable. It doesn't mean. I don't celebrate. Because you're right. When these when these references come up at night on whatever recap show, you're watching and and and either one of these guys is always and most recently join. Owning something with the members. So yes, I get that, Dan. I do not celebrate it as much as the it'd be a doesn't have the film library that the NFL does with NFL films. I mean, I talked to Steve sable about that. At one point. They wanted to he wanted to do for the NBA what he was doing the NFL and the NFL blocked it. No, I didn't even know blocked the stable family again, Steve sable, I'm getting that from. But I think there's there's all sorts of like, how do we not have film of something that happened in nineteen sixty two when a guy scored one hundred points. You've never seen one picture and its willed holding a sign. You know, what Darryl Cooke if so sunny Johnson? Now only saw he was at that game because they would have those NBA double headers or NBA others things over hitters and so the NFL had teams in the off season. Those guys got paid to play basketball so sunny with either playing for the eagles or the risk risking in be in their basketball team. I don't remember which team was but said he comes out of the shower, and he says at the end of the first quarter. We'll have like twenty nine sunny had arrived. He was gonna leave. And he says, no, no, no, no, I'm I'm gonna say watch this guy. And so I I guess I've been around enough guys of that generation who did appreciate will too. I don't I don't have that that blind spot in my in my rear view. But I think there's some I think not winning with the great players. He played with may have something to do with that Michael New York. Thanks for joining us as always. So where what are the traits, right? Yeah. Absolutely. All right, this I'm rooting for you. I'm rooting for you, she room for you. Thank you, Mike. That's Michael wilbon, pardon the interruption. Brought to you by Mercedes AM GB prepared for whatever comes your way. The all new GT four door coupe because life is a race. Visit your local dealership for test drive today. Back after this. 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In Boyle heights, or last in east. LA. Eight tell me they will have me I will come down to let you know, I'll let you know which burrito is the bulk. People can keep charming it and let us know see where the new heavyweight champion Ruiz wherever he Andy Ruiz now real quick before I get to the Lakers thing we made fun of that new. Right. We saw the picture. I'm like, come on, man. This and he is shadow to. He is Mexican rocky legitimately like think about the movie rocky Apollo creed. How to fight and they gotta fill in, and then the feeling. Getting a draw with him or whatever it was. I, I draw draw. Right. Or did Apollo win by Apollo? One won by split decision. Right. And then he got the second fight. Right. But basically, that's what this is rocky. I mean to have a Mexican heavyweight champion is damn impressive. Okay. Because when you think of Mexican boxers, I think it might you could attest to this. You think of the lightweight category, the, the lower weight class middleweight even potentially but heavyweight, this is somewhat unprecedented. This is the best. It's been in decades and Joshua. I mean you could see when he got clocked because he, he hit res hard, right? Knocked down. Then Reese came right back up and just clocked him. And this lot had to do with stamina. Right. Pretty much had never had that happen to him. And then what what is funny? Like when he got clocked knocked down the first time it was like he looked at his legs. And it was. Like it was explained to me this way by someone in Toronto that was watching the fight, and it was, like when you look at, like the Terminator, his legs are like malfunctioning and breaking. And he's like sh- that he falls on the floor. That's what Joshua he's looking at his legs. I can't believe my legs are giving out on me. It was just a crazy, man. It was wild change the whole heavyweight, everything. Just because the stars are aligned right now now you put wilder up there at the top right now. Yeah. By default almost your drink. Curses will the call. Our? Yes. Drake and even hosted hosted on their said that he was in the curse the curse. All right. All right. Trey curses real after this weekend. I believe it didn't believe it at first. I mean it is you, you have Mexican a Mexican rocky basically win win because of the Drake curse. It's to the point where we know Drake is looking in a mirror say, what's, what am I doing because I think humor he wore the seventy Sixers shorts right in the game seven and the represented a winning. So even he knows the curses real. So I was at Toronto was LA on fire like popping with Andy REEs one definitely definitely. But a lot of people are just shocked shocked out of the broadcasters. Just everyone Twitter Instagram was while the means also on Anthony, Josh was, was amazing also. So I say the best memes I've ever seen after a boxing match was one ho what Marquez knocked out Paki out. We're doing the line. Saying. Was that was probably the best thing I've ever seen this talented editors out there on Twitter and. Well, yeah, he was Madison Square Garden, the world's most famous arena. He his debut, Anthony, Joshua's US debut and he knocks him out. And then he's a Knicks fan. It turns out Ruis. Wow. He's where there's a picture of him. And this is. Fight where a mixture the belts this crazy number one is Hari was. Right here. Not too far from where we're at right now. If industries, like riverside brought in a little bit not too far shut the sound today, man show. There's a familiar face and voice with the Los Angeles Lakers. There's going to be making a reemergence reappearance so tomorrow. It can't be magic because magic said he going to give us something after July agency July. Okay. So Magic's Dow. It can't be Coby. Coby said he ain't talking. Nope. Unless you pay four nine a month for ESPN. Plus, right? You can see him detail. Right. So can't be Koby four ninety nine deal here. Metta world peace already talked last week about his book documentary, which was cool was Showtime. I'm just thinking of Laker people or people involved with the Lakers, who we haven't heard from never lost. Bars back tomorrow. Oh man. So get ready because more your Twitter time line, your Instagram all the talk shows radio shows. They gonna have never know stout it, because lavar is a loss. He's going on. Skip Bayless is show, you know, because maddening went on I take so lavar over ESPN's, not giving him the TV love anymore. So he's going to FOX to get the TV low skip. So he's going to skip show in the middle of the five middle of the finals, what he's doing because he's not going to get the love because we know everything on, you know, final since is final century. But it's also location. You know, there's nothing that's being done over there, get up, you know, is being done in New York crystal here, so he would have to go all the way. That's for him. That's trying too hard to be seen. I want you guys hear me him speaking here in, in allay is totally different because we were just talking about when is the last time, we heard from, lavar, it's been a while I did around with cowherd, and Bela's before a few months ago when the Anthony Davis stuff was pouches a few months ago, George that was February. We all away, it was like after that it was after that it was sometime after maybe it was like March or April, if I recall correctly now we know Lonzo talked about, on the shop how he had to have that talk with dad, and he had to stand on his own, especially at the Allen foster allege, you know, still in from from Lonzo in the family will we see a different lavar? Well, I'm out. Tell you what I think we'll see tomorrow. We'll do that. And I wanna get into some dodgers stuff. On the other side, we're back in four minutes on ESPN LA seventh annual golf classic. We're hanging out. Here's the golfers are in the ballroom, shutout to our sponsors several of many. Marvin windows deputy. Oh, and vogue invoked events Bristol farms sorry in transphobic, talking Eighty-eight water baseball, this Wiki dudes brew that UCLA did. They advance the super-region. That's UCLA didn't they? Tonight the last game. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. They could be eliminated because they've already lost one. Gotcha. Okay. I doubt little college baseball couple. This is the time of year like watching because it's a little slow you notice where but everything means up. You know what I'm saying? I'm saying the time of year sportswise is slow because days off between the NBA finals Karesh days off between if you're hockey person the Stanley Cup finals. Right. So there's time to kind of watch some of that. I spent a little I was watching a little bit over the weekend a little bit. Yeah. I just kinda monitor a little bit couple team. Like to watch college baseball watch when it gets to Omaha, though that is always a good watch. I grew up while he's wanting to play in college World Series. And obviously, I never did. But I wanted to play at an Omaha. Yeah. That was like the crown jewel because you get for one week. It's a great spot. I haven't been TD Ameritrade is the what's Arizona, there were you on this squad? The nineteen eighty national champion congratulated. Nice you go. Yeah. So yeah, like I love me some college baseball. So I mean on that I actually want UCLA's that our team in the country, so they win though host a super regional I wanna go. I wanna go to watch you Robertson stadium. Yes. Some of that if they advance hopefully they do advance. So anyway, lavar, let's finish that conversation. Yes. So lavar is going on Bela's and cowherd during a warm up here. We've been a ball straight from day one, and thanks to lake or Twitter for putting this on my radar because I didn't know until I got here little while ago. And I'm on my laptop, and I'm like, all of a sudden, lavar, it on my screen, and, you know, you see, like one Mimi, or whatever you whatever. But all of a sudden, there's a bunch, I'm like this up. And then I start realizing what's up? So Laker, Twitter's already aware that lavar is going out there. So Mike, ask the question, do you think lavar will be different? I think what lavar will be is contrite when it comes to the stuff. Alan foster. But what is about his son? Man, mike. It said that Lonzo said during the shot that he had had a talk with pops row. We talk with pops too, because the last thing Lonzo wants to be sent to Phoenix. Because he's still eligible now if the right deal comes up, especially for the number four pick probably Lonzo throwing a couple to get them down there. We'll see. But I think the lavar that we see tomorrow or we hear from is still going to be hyping up. You know, obviously, he's gonna have some thoughts on lukewarm because member, he you gone for the beginning should have been gone, a little, he been playing my son Luke don't know how to coach, my son. So we're gonna get some Luke Walton talk. You're right. That's true. I do wanna hear his thoughts on magic. I'm curious to see what that's like us, remember magic went to the house. We forget about magic we know two houses that magic has been to LeBron LeBron Lonzo. Okay. So I do want to hear kind of that, how that relationship was. And maybe he may be able to kind of pull back the Kurt a little bit more his talks with magic now to magic is no longer operations that afraid this early. Right. So that's too. Questions or two answers I do want to hear from him. But then, you know, kind of. Honestly, it was the question I believe, Charles Barkley as char, Michael wilpon X. Magic last week. Magic went on if you could start over lavar, what you could do something if you could start all over again. What would you do differently because I think he probably wouldn't have took, you know, jello out of UCLA, probably wouldn't took the kids over to Europe now because he jeopardized their possible. Careers in the NBA five taking them to the J, B, A or over to the way. And now you're only hope is that hopefully someone falls in love with lamelo. But he's not gonna play at the college ranks. So. He may go to Australia that other kid RJ happy. So now you've basically he had a easy ticket that he could have played on the college level, played and got the national exposure. And I think that we're looking at Zion, and that's what I think lavar wanted for his kids. Yes, he wanted Zion Lonzo some of that he got a little bit, but he didn't get the Zion. I mean it was pretty. It was pretty big. It wasn't on signs level. Different ion visit Duke, he went to Duke, and he's also a physically imposing correct, right? He looks like a freak of nature. Right. He looks like something you would sculpt in Roman times, June. You know what I'm saying? Like that's what Lonzo doesn't have that. But Lonzo played Kentucky on a nationally televised game on CBS in the afternoon, one. Right. Wonders year. Right. Four o'clock in the afternoon on the east coast. So that was that's, that's a real deal game lonzo's gains. I went to a game at Pauley pavilion, where they played Michigan. Another CBS game. So they got a lot of exposure. Lonzo was there. And I remember summer league being crazy when Lonzo was there. That was, I think that was given to, because he got drafted to the Lakers. So that was probably the most watch spring summer league. Right. And this one I'm going tell this, we'll probably rival it. But I think now that, you know, lavar is probably had some time to think you'd think that you think he will reflect I, I would hope that he reflect. Yeah. It does. Hey, I hope so too. Hopefully, we can bring him in and he come on, on this show on Saddam will show, all of Mike call because I will say, hey, what do you do? Now, your son covered up the triple beat tattoo he put he put the dice on owners forum no longer has the trophies. Lonzo was saying that it just gave him Alice, right? Made him think of Allen. The guy that stole from the fam- allegedly stole. So what happens triple b now because basically, you were all in on triple b that you almost not almost, you basically derailed your son's careers. Yes. Not a lot Lonzo. No other team. Well, those two derailed it gave them distractions that they did need. And now you know, lamelo can't go to college because he's over there making shoes earning money from coming up next. Let's get into the dodgers a little bit. And I want to tell you that Roger Goodell has finally seen the light Kirk Morrison. I'll tell you about what informants three minutes Saddam show here on ESPN LA seventh annual golf tournament brought to us by our friends at lava craft cocktail mixers. Also golf gum, George Chevrolet. Callaway golf body armor, you name it, man, we get a lot of great sponsors helping us out here. We also have a lot of great listeners shouting, his out with mom and pop. Culinary experience. And. Looking at a couple more here. LA sports radio tweets his mom's burger harboring Compton. Yeah. Okay, mic been there. But we all are heard about it. But it's what you get that good urban hood burger. I mean, it's nothing like okay, that's what I need to find a good spot. But mom's, I'll keep that in mind. This one from. Psych. He says standing room of Redondo beach. It's a liquor store and Catalina avenue. The burgers are amazing. And they got some parmesan truffle fries truffle. That's delicious. Yeah. Josh Bentham says checkout crimson coward Nashville hot chicken. Okay. And from a man Ed who tweeted about the burrito. He said, don't take my word for it that the best burrito town was last sticker. He actually set four different links. USA today, LA times LA weekly thirty eight that they had the best burrito in America. I'm there after the second link. Yup. So Joe is so apparently last is the place to be for the best burrito, Snapchat. The dodgers are clearly the best team in the National League. They no argument there. Yeah. Let me ask you this is it is it almost like because last year was crazy. Let's not forget they were like ten games under five hundred. You know. You know, basically near Memorial Day, basically, if you remember correctly and people were freaking out. Yeah. They were. And now what happens is there so comfortably ahead that it's just everyone's just relax this. I kinda liked it. A little bit last year. And I'm explain why ruin because I, I, I kept the faith. I was like, man, this don't matter. And I remember people like nobody's don't do. Now there's been teams that did it. There have been teams have been in that spot one, the world's as a matter of fact they were three or four teams. The Houston Astros. When they when they won the world's when they went to the World Series, they lost that year that was the Chicago White Sox. I think when they were still in the National League. So it was like, oh, five. The marlins. All those teams were like ten games under five hundred may and either went or won the World Series. And there were a couple more. The Yankees had a late stretch to one year, one of those years that they won the World Series. So I just feel like it made it more like it made every gay matter more because they got behind Doug themselves such a whole whereas now I'm look. I think they're gonna win the World Series I said that to start the season I thought this was their year because what we talked about, remember Kershaw not being the key. Just one of the right that was your interest, great. You know, I just look at what hundred ruse doing right. Look at what the rotations doing now the bullpen, but I think you, you can add bullpen right? To me. You know what you're doing trade? Right. There's a single focus and that is adding arms. Right. Okay. Now they're not all gonna work out. I get it. Bullpen is a very the chemistry. There can be very tough at times. But if you had enough arms, you're going to hit on somebody. Okay. Right. So, I feel like I haven't a faith in Andrew Friedman in these guys that they're going to add enough arms that just based on that alone. They're going to be able to kind of make that thing work. So I think the winning this year and they're comfortable lead. They're gonna win the west by mile by double digits, as, as far as I'm concerned, and I don't even know the cubs play better. And, you know, the Phillies are playing all right. But I just don't see a team that can beat them four out of seven games in the NFC SO, I think barring, like a rash of injuries just one injury or to injuries. I mean like they gotta get decimated. Right for them. Blues and obviously has to be at the wrong time. But I just think that the way this thing is shaking out that. It's going to be great in September and October. But right now it doesn't help the season because I just think everyone's like, again, just to relax because last year when they dug that hole was on your game, I was watching every day, like, if I was out, I don't have TV. So I can't watch. So I was watching him OBT mobile network every night. And because they do the constant updates and, you know, Sean watching him. We'll be network every single night because I needed to know that the dodgers are watching them phone. I'm trying to see what the score is, and that if it's not good spot, or it's close them flip it over. I'm trying to find some updates on it this year. I'm kind of like. The roland. And that's good. But I think that part of me, I'll equate into this, you know, when you're young and you single and you like yourself a little drama. You know, you the people you date. That's not that's not a man. That's a male female thing. We all do take a little crazy. You like that little crazy. So this year is just like the dodgers this year. The Cruella to your high school sweetheart. You know what I mean you've been through a lot with them? Right. And, you know, they studied study this year up and down they gonna be down for you. They see you at your worse, yet your bed, but they're so steady this year. That all right. We'll figure it out. And then, you know, you have to make a decision eventually what happens. But that's what it's like to be as great as they've been I kind of miss a little bit of the crazy from last year. Well, I think the biggest takeaway that I got especially come this weekend. Sweep was that the dodgers were a player in the Bryce Harper sweepstakes. Okay. So Bryce Harper comes to LA this weekend. And yet that one player is not putting Philadelphia over the top. Right. And the dodgers didn't make the move. Now they offer Bryce Harper. They did they offered him a contract, but I can tell you right now. If you're asking me, who got the better player right now the dodgers have the better player in Cody bellinger's, and they didn't have to give up the farm to go out and get the best player. So what I look at what. Happened this weekend. I was just looking to myself saying, how crazy that this team could have been like if they would've went out and got Bryce Harper, would he's be affective with AB spend all that money? Obviously, you're over the cap and things will look totally different. I'm more impressed that they've said, you know what we don't have to bring all these different free agents. We've got a nice team right here. We cut the fat on a couple of guys, right? Yes. You no longer here met Kim no longer here you made some harsh decisions but at the same time you brought guys in that just really have fine. Tune their skills George. Yeah. To a point where they're just playing like you mentioned relaxed and they're actually playing jock. Peterson is playing. He's not worried about am I going to play tomorrow. I'm going to play on this day. The sit out this that they're actually playing Cody bellinger's playing and all you're seeing guys feel comfortable now at the plate, and you like all right? This is cool. But Kate, you maintain it. That's the only that's the only bad. Part show. There's about one hundred games left in the season. Right. Give or take one or two games. Right. So we are about a third or so a little more than a third of the way through the season. Correct. And. If you had your druthers before we go to break here. If you could face the Yankees the raise, I'm gonna take the teams that are in contention in the American League the twins. Or the Astros. Which of those fourteen would you wanna face? In order give it to me an order. Say twins. Ashley Astros, raise your keys if you're the dodgers in order. Yeah. Give me one through four who who's one number one would probably be the raise because you feel like you could be beat them like right away. Right. Like raise because us wanna win. I've seen this race story before. It's always looks good. Right. And there's a cool dynamic is Andrew Freeman used to be used to be there. But I think like the dodgers will bring way more fans if it was a series to Tampa, I would go Yankees because the Yankees remind me of the dodgers of last year, a couple years, they'll couple years ago like all the injuries is hit at the wrong time. That's the dodgers. And that's the one baseball would want, right? Dodgers Yankees huge. Then you go with. I actually I may flip flop Minnesota because Minnesota come out of nowhere. They hitting a ton. Like. Haven't been there just kind of like new money, Milwaukee, their new money, the Milwaukee Bucks. Okay, we'll give me Ronan playing but you don't want the rematch with the Astor's to good. I. They are. Good. Dudes man. They're scary. They're scary. And they have a home field that we saw a couple of years ago that was just rocking electric. So I'm gonna give you my four on the other side in what's trending. Plus, we're going to tell you how Roger Goodell has seen the lightens Sodano show live from the ESPN LA seventh annual golf tournament and gala you're on. ESPN LA. Oh, hey, we're back down a show here in ESPN LA at the seventh annual golf tournament is you heard. Mario say they're shoutout to all our sponsors, where I leave off to our friends at MIR audio-video. Sure a cigar, h j glove, and of course, Travis, Matthew, not to mention colo- Aram, valvoline instant oil change in Coors, light show. Benef- untie Kirk Morrison hanging out with this year. Got me a little salad and stake to hit up a little later in the next break got quick around here, you can't be waiting. You know what I'm saying can't eat on the air? I know I'm looking yeah. Look, good little salad a little bit. Yeah. Trying to lay off the carbs. Man. Charity. Add those the breaded chicken from that great chicken place. What's reds and readiness? Chicken sandwich over there was fire to. They were great. But that's my, that's my carbon take for the day fellas. You got the big Scot auto good job that, but the oh. So. Fund. She hit me up with what's trending, let's get to that. Training is brought to us by our friends at the dudes brewing company. With five tasting rooms in southern California, torrent, Santa, Monica Santa Clarita, Huntington beach in Thousand Oaks to order beer from the source, go to the website, the dudes brew dot com. I show before we went to break, I had mentioned we were talking about the four teams in the American League, and rank them in order how you'd like to see the dodgers potentially face them in the World Series because I feel like the dodgers are gonna win the thing and they are the clear cut favorite in the National League now. It's not debatable anymore. So if I had to rank them in the teams are Houston Tampa Bay the Yankees and Minnesota. I would wanna see the Yankees. I because I don't think I've the Antes pitching is super suspect. Yeah. I think they can hit, but they're pitching, his so suspect, and I gotta enter right? I think the dodgers could beat them, and it also gives you a little old school flavor. It gives baseball the best possible matchup. Right. Because if you get New York LA you want you own good. You want you want you want. So I think that's that would be number one, because I think, and I'm saying this as someone who is a Yankee fan. Right. I think the dodgers would beat the Yankees right? Yeah, absolutely. So I'm telling you I'm not just coming from there, just because I'm trying to hype up. You know the matchup. It's I'm telling you, as someone who is a Yankee fan that the dodgers would whip the, the Yankees five games, six tops row. So I think they're very beatable then after that. I'm with the raise after that. Right. Because I do think they're also very beatable. They're also very young, right? But there's a cool story line with Andrew freidan against his old team. I don't think you could sell that that much. But the baseball nerd would love that, right? Then after that I'm going with. The Minnesota Twins. Minnesota Twins are third and probably because it's not as desirable matchup for baseball as cool, as it is that the twins are playing awesome small market and the whole nine even though they're really small Morgan. I dunno four major sports all market by baseball's. I get that, right. They're not getting a juggle. They're not the Red Sox, the Yankees or one of the LA Rams. Right. So Chicago teams where they've got. I mean, small market based on their payroll. That's, that's the way Minnesota Minneapolis is, that's a nice way to small-market payrolled. Right. That's the way you describe. So, and they don't have a lot of household names this that and the other, but I wouldn't wanna see them because they mash and now good pitching beats good hitting. But man, they could hit show. I'm a little afraid of them more show than the rays and the Yankees and they lasts them with you. I don't wanna see the Astros at home. Seven games the last time. But man, the Astros Ono parts there. Gene, first of all, they're GM Jeff lewd. Now, I think is as good as Andrew Friedman, right? He is legit. Okay. So even would call us career hurt. Like that's their, their best player arguably is hurt. Right. And they're still ball. Okay because they got just so many good players on that roster. They might have. I think the most potent lineup top to bottom of anyone in baseball, even though they don't have the most home runs like the twins. They don't have the MVP right now like Cody Bellinger in the nationally. They they're just so solid from top to bottom that I don't wanna see them because they're only getting better. I think they're better than the team. The dodgers face two years ago. I agree with that. They have a lot of pitching. Well, right. And you're listening in Los Angeles. So next before we get to Roger Goodell, and he's seeing the light yesterday while I was at game two of the NBA finals in Toronto. There was a special guest. Barack Obama was there Iraq. Obama is a huge NBA fan sports fan, ESPN consumer. So I didn't know this. But I saw doors Burks tweet now where she he wa-. He was walking the bows, the arena ran into Ramona Ramona's sidelines. I'm sorry. So they were actually on the court and he told her Ramona do a great job. And, and he did the same the whoa, JR. Told me that he's say that I was with Michael wilbon. I was watching the Michael wilpon. Whoa. Jin. Stephen. Okay. I was in the power. Sweet. Okay. And, and we'll Bont. I mean they tight. Okay, what I'm saying tight. They know each other from the nineties, Chicago. So they go to dinner together. He calls will bind to talk sports about like one in the morning like is like that. So we'll wind down to go hang with him at half and all that show. It was just cool to have him there. And I told you this. Purgatory won't notice this. We were all looking for the why fine the building. And when the WI fi lists came out, there was a locked encrypted WI fi. That was called the White House to, and it was just for him and his party. Wow. Sit your service all it. Yeah. I can definitely see L was one thing yesterday when I saw forty four I was like, oh, this is a huge deal in the sea of standing ovation that he got all. Yeah. In Canada, another country. There's one thing here in the US but to go to another country that, I mean, that was that was like, wow. You're getting goosebumps wiles. It was wild. And I was like I've never been that close to a president before any president. It was just cool to just be, you know. Hundred couple hundred feet away. It was it was awesome. And see him walking in that arena, the leather jacket Dinsdale walk. It was. Everybody's gonna say, no vacation. To that people. So next week go to we've had this debate we had. I think the LA times did a poll right about the best, French fries. Yes. So remember, ABC seven has a tweet today that according to let me see business insider. They tasted French fries from eight major fast food chains. Okay. And decided that shake shacks crinkle cut fries were the best between McDonald's arby's. Burger King Dairy, Queen Wendy's the major major major national brands. They decided shake shack was the spot. I've had shake shack fries. All right. All right. Yeah, I wouldn't go that far I would say, maybe five guys fries. I don't like five guys period, every time I eat one of those five guys burgers, it feels like a brick my stomach, it almost feels like whoever's making the judgment about these fries. Don't normally eat fries. Like we do you know, like come on. Burger King still got some good fries. I've had some Burger King fries. I can't really. Some people love the waffle fries. Yes. Oh, yeah. That guy. Well, we has a lot of potato and if it cools down, it's still good. That's a lot of fries. I ten minutes, don't you? They don't taste good next apple had a big day today. They were doing kind of one of their big events today, talking about a lot of the different products. But one of the things that I thought was interested came out today is that I no longer than it is. Now officially apple music replacing. I tunes. And of course, then they have several separate apple podcasts, which, of course, you could subscribe rate review, these Sodano show podcast there, the at apple podcast. And so they've got now separate apps. And of course, they've got apple TV, which has their TV apps. So they are all three different things, but I do no longer the end of an era. It is all just gonna be called apple music at that, as long as they don't miss, because that apple music man is or nine right? Yeah. And it was the whole library. I get the whole library because I tried it for a little while. I don't feel like it was worth. Maybe I still listen to enough music like that for me because I serious. So I just pop on Sirius just listen to stuff, like I think for me. It will be when your kids get older. Right. Like mine are older. So we all have the family apple music, right? By so yeah. It's like four of us on it, fifteen dollars a month for me. I'm a big. Obviously, I'm Jim Guy in the morning. So I'm going to gym at, like five fifteen and I'll just go back into the database on albums, like, come on. We're all part of the cassette CD eras will remember that. So a lot of the albums that I had as a teenager college years, I don't have them on. I don't have them ipod anymore. So I went and just looked up ole to short out and just put the thing on just and they had it. You don't be like every album is at your base your fingertips. That's why I had to go with it. And I still go with next to short. There's more from the apple conference today. Siri is getting a new voice in on I O S thirteen they're no longer going to go with the traditional voice, that they've been using for Siri the I don't know what the actu-. Voice is going to be. But they're just telling us there's going to be there did a brief demo on stage. The new voice does seem to do a better job, actually pronouncing worse because sometimes Siri mess. You know what I'm saying? You know, like my name, especially, like she don't know how to say, hey, you know what I mean? She don't notice George either with a J. We don't want to pronounce Agana. It does. It doesn't go will Baker, right. Yeah. Yeah. Neth it. So the new voice for Siri doesn't Pez. Is that one a little better job apparently with that stuff, especially now with apple carplay, a lot of cars and whatnot? They're trying to do that. Next go back to the dodgers. Real quick. We were talking about the dodgers and their hot start the top four players. In the National League when it comes to on-base percentage. How many do you think are dodgers? How minimum one hundred plate appearances. Minim how many are dodgers of the, the top four. To that is correct. Cody bellinger's for one Ren. Don't is number two Christian yelich, the reigning MVP is number three, David freeze at number four really. Yeah. Freeze having a little year. Yeah. I mean he's, he's an excellent utility player that is exactly what he is this stage. And he's a professional hitter. He's fantastic. He's he's Andrei, go dollar. He is he's very much except he doesn't play even as much Andre. But yeah, for real, I got you next. Are you big jeopardy fan? Yes. So big so James holes, our is right. He's the guy the gambler the professional gambler who has been just killing it on jeopardy. Right. Well, he tweeted today, new shouldn't have invited at Drake to the jeopardy taping. He basically announcing funny way to announce that he lost today. So he announced to the world when you check it out. He went down today, so watch, you'll. See that he is time was on the east coast. They've already jeopardy is already seen it. He tweeted out six hours ago. Okay. I was on the plane. I saw I told my might try to get him on the show. Sports gambler. Yeah. I think he will love he's from Vegas. He's all west coast time. This is not like this, because sometimes we try to get guests on the east coast just really hard. Right. I wonder where his career goes from now. Well, he wants to he wants to work at major league baseball. He wants to be part of a front office. The gambling background. Yeah. It's a numbers background, basically. Yeah. Yeah, it will let Pete Rose back in so. Listen. I think that I would do it. I would look the Dallas Mavericks. So let me give you an example. Bob vulgarities. Okay. Is the most renowned NBA sports gambling. Okay. And the Dallas Mavericks hired him last season. Rude to work on their staff because he came up with basically a computer system that would allow him to pick games. So he would, you know, he created this system that would have the actual lineups insert the lineups, and what the projections would be. And it would allow him to. They would crunch the numbers and he'd win way more than lose. So that kind of information, I would say it's beneficial to a franchise, right? So if I'm a baseball franchise, especially baseball's way more numbers Centric than even basketball is I would at least give him a job or consider it bring them in at least for an interview what do you have to lose? If you're like a crappy team. What do you have to lose? Analytics analytics, but I'm just saying no, I get it. I think that hurts by. Any stretch as much information as I can. Exactly. That's what's trendy brought to us by friends at the dudes brewing company. With five tasting rooms in southern California towards Santa, Monica Santa Clarita, Huntington beach Thousand Oaks daughter here for the source go to their website, dudes brew dot com. Coming up naked Andrei. 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"Who roy? Another day. Another Laker story. Magic johnson. We'll be live on this radio station at four o'clock is doing a sportscenter special with Stephen a Smith and Michael wilbon. And my guess, is he's probably gonna have something to say about this Baxter homes, article, so Baxter, by the way. We'll join us at five o'clock, but there's so many layers to this thing, and I know, Mason Ireland in the morning show and everyone's talked about it, and here's what I would the biggest takeaway, like I saw. And I read the whole thing Kirk Morrison though. Thank you for the whole thing, by the way, it took me about forty minutes. Forty forty it's a long. It's a long run. It's probably about the most done in a while. It's a thorough, right? Like there's a lot of layers to this. But what it says to me is this, we've been on this here. You and I and a lot of people on this show that have come on this show. Mason has. Been preaching some of this stuff. And again, I'm not the fire. The guy radio host, like I'm not that guy. I'm not even advocating for rob to be fired. Like I'm not. And I know that maybe that gets misconstrued because of how critical I am of him. Yeah. All I've advocated for is to have an adult in the room, because when you break it all down, Kirk g bus magic set himself. She's listening to many people. She's not great at making decisions. Right. Right. She did it the one time where they're brother and we commended her for it. But then she created this reboot with people who didn't know what they were doing and created a situation with magic that allowed him to not be one hundred percent committed to this. So I don't blame magic when he's the quote unquote, absentee exec, because that's what his boss allowed, and there's not a person out there that isn't gonna do whatever their boss allows them to do and get away with, like, I I'm cool with that. Like I get it. It's we joke around with Mason around here. Right. And l z about how much vacation time they, but if the boss allows it the hell would it take your vacation time like I'm good with it. So, I would it shows to me is the thing, I've kind of been harping on, which is there are clear disconnects here in how a functional professional sports organization is supposed to work and hence the dysfunction that you're seeing. Now, some of these stories that Baxter outlined Kirk. They're not new stories but they connect the dots because of the detail involved with the stories that he got. And there are a few things that we didn't know like the heath ledger thing right like that. The story that rob Pelinka told with the rack there and one of these player events that he does the genius talks, or whatever, I remember, just a really quick store, there was one time when Kobe who I worked with eighteen years, going back to play Madison Square Garden. It just seen the dark Knight, obviously, you gotta saw that movie. And he's like, hey hooked me up with dinner with heath ledger because he got so locked into that role. I want to know how he mentally went there. And so we had dinner with heathy talked about how he locks in for a role in Kobe. Use some of that in his game Craig's against the Nixon Chaz a mental preparation. And so I know for you your craft your art. How you've gotten to be number one and that how you stay there show. Look, man, here's the thing Kirk and I talked to was during purgatory. I'll talk about it. Then as you get older doctors will tell you like psychologists doctors will tell you your mind gets fuzzy like that's just normal evolution of life. Right. You miss remember details. You or you remember them differently whatever you know what I'm saying occasionally, you exaggerate stuff. Because you think you, you saw at a certain way, and it didn't turn out that way. But because time has gone by it so many years ago, you don't have all the details square in your head. That happens to everyone man. Like, that's it can happen to anyone. But what happens is, we have a pattern of behavior here where rob is by. Everyone's account is constantly telling tall tales you know what I mean. Like it's not just a one off. It's not a one time thing. This is a constant. Well, it's, it's for me from reading this, and I kept saying it before, like to me. How do I describe, rob? Now, you know, like, I, I don't know him personally, but from the how long has it been now since he's been the general manager, what about over two years now, two years, new years in about four months, or five months? And so the more and more, I think about what the job that he's done. And I'm still scratching my head a little bit because I've, I've heard more negative than positive George like thinking about. And by the way, this Mace this fans base deserves better is all I'm saying, man, like it deserves someone in charge of him, who knows how to do this. But I think it's never hating, but I think a lot of people hate hearing the truth until when I hear the truth. It's like oh man year the truth. And you're like this is you guys are hating. No, we're not Hayden. I'm not hating on rob Pelinka. I'm just trying to figure out what's the plan? What are you doing? Like who, who are you talking with who? Are you getting your knowledge from? Or helping you do your job because so far that job isn't getting done. This team hasn't been to the playoffs in six years, rob, and a lot of it, it just falls on him. I'm reading that whole entire article in the in the one thing, I'm just saying, how truthful is rob? Now. You know what I mean? Because a lot of these stories have been, especially the we hear the he ledger story now. Right. Right. Okay. He told that lie. Then all of a sudden magic. It's all he's a bag of Bob Meyer storm. So now you're starting to see like is he a bit? You'll liar. Now, you know, does he li- just a liar, the door to just or is it just an agent talk now? Or is it sometimes you just talking just to talk? I don't know what the rob yet I'm still trying to figure it out. Yeah. And that's the thing show when you have a situation like that when magic is saying that people are telling him don't trust. That is a prevailing notion around the league. It was it's not us making that up man and just don't dismiss stuff as fake news, because you don't want to believe it. There's twice. When there's too much smoke, there's fire man. The great nipsy hustle, once said question, number one, what they call you where you from. Okay. And the, the point of that is, basically on a time guys were already from, they got a nickname, right? Like wherever you nickname is that's, that's kind of how we kind of treat you a little bit. So you think oh, George over here. And they say, oh, jurors slick George now. I got notice slit jewelry watching, right. He's slick right to me. And rob is slated Robinson. That's what Mason calls it. So if he's going to be slick, rob. I gotta you gotta keep sick bribe right there in front of reasons. I got up next. I want to get into the magic part of this, and I want to discuss the were genie kind of falls into all this stuff, too. And by the way, there's a Rich Paul LeBron aspect of this that we haven't even scratched the surface on the lot. So we'll, we'll kind of help digest some of that again. Don't forget magic in twenty three minutes is going to be on this air, so Magic Johnson and twenty three minutes Kirk Morrison hanging out sedan show, ESPN LA back in three minutes. So, dan. Show here on ESPN LA Kirk Morrison hanging out with us again at four o'clock. Magic johnson. Stephen a Smith, Michael wilbon, Doc Rivers, doc dot got roped in. They were originally going to do, I think they'll still do some of this or most. I mean I don't know if it'll be most of I don't know the format but originally was supposed to be a finals preview. I was going to listen to it. I'm going to I was gonna tape it. And why don't you just go back and watch it right? And I was too, but L now a steep as already said that they're going to have to address all this. I happy about it. One bit. I got better things to do with my damn time. To do home in Los Angeles. Because tonight at seven PM eastern tongue law on ESPN. I'm Intel because I am doing an NBA final special. It will be myself my brother. Michael wilpon, man. Doc Rivers at coach for the Los Angeles Clippers form a championship coat with the Boston Celtics. And of course. Magic johnson. So that's what you're going to hear in eighteen minutes is him. Michael. Wilpon cosc-, the great thing with Stephen and wilpon is that they can play good cop bad cop a little bit. Then you know what I'm saying? Like, like Stephen. Hey, we'll just be Steven A, and then we'll, we'll wilpon smooth is they come you know what I'm saying. So he's going to argue with you without raising his tone. Right. You know what I mean? That's, that's a. Yeah. You know, somebody will argue to raise up how I'm here. I got you the loudest person. I get it. I get it, but yeah, that's not Michael, Michael raises voice. You know you're in trouble. Yeah. Right. So there's that so four o'clock we've got that for you. So someone tweeted me, Travis, and says, is there any chance Kobe saw a pre screening of the dark Knight before he passed away, just asking. I doubt it. I believe that the way the time line came out that the movie was still in production like it wasn't like nobody's getting a screener. When the movie is still in post production like that's not happening. So no is the short answer to that. Basically, by the way. How would you feel if you're Kobe about this coming out now because I don't think, like if I'm Kobe. I'd be like for real like, why, why say this about me what they because he's the one person who we haven't heard from to nobody, I'm saying about him in, like, if I was him, I'd be like, rob. Why are you talking about me like this, but it just seemed like he is the one that we haven't heard like all this Laker news and drama. Kobe has distanced himself from the Laker business side of from. The Laker issue as and he's Mark to do. So. And I think for him basically saying, look do. Why are you bringing my name first of all, and I know he's probably call rob, you know, now because all this is now starting to come out now. Hey, keep some of our things that we've talked about confidential little bit. Now you don't have to use my name because honestly, that's what you do right now. That's what mirror, we gotta remember how brought Pelinka came into power within Lakers, organising. No, we know that. Yeah. He was Kobe's agent. He's Kobe's agent. So Kobe basically got no one say gotten job. But basically hill you kind of did help him. Get eight. Yeah. Let's be real. Yeah. Yeah. But, you know, basically Kobe is still a part as Orgainzation, but he still away from the organization, and that makes sense what he's like do. Why why, why put my name in this? Yeah, I, I don't I don't understand why you would do that. I mean, like honestly, like I would I would not be happy. Does that does that? Yeah. I I don't I don't get it at all. But magic. Johnson live at four o'clock, we'll do it. Why? Why? We're going to do it live at four o'clock with Magic Johnson. Stephen A, Michael wilbon, Doc Rivers, I feel bad for doc. Don't you like that's going to be like, why am I here? Again. Doc, eventually I we could get to this finals things. We'll talk about that George many it was honestly look. So when I'm reading the article this morning. Right. And I get a text my producer Mike, Mike. He may, you gotta read is I read this, you know, I'm up every morning, I go to the gym, and I came out at six AM. So you're alright already I'm like read, I'm like, what are you serious and I'm Bank Baxter homes? I'm hi, so I'm still reading it. And another guy who I honestly, and I've never said anything really truly bad about him in terms about the he's a great person. I think everyone said he's a great person but I just don't understand how he was the head coach in what was going on. Like how difficult a job Luke Walton as I'm reading them. Yeah. Like Luke is basically a Dead Man Walking. Every single day. Nobody could any put on a good day and put he put a smile on his fans. He worked for he had to answer the questions after before let's going on the co LeBron is injured this Trump to meet and I'm sitting here light and then the contagious, call we'll pope situation will still sandy as call. Well, pope like this dude is going to a halfway house. Yeah. Instill playing any other team guide. Do suspended with, don't what you'd be a distraction rang. You like okay, but we're allowing currying favor with clutch. I'm just saying like a lot of this. I mean, how much does the clutch have within the Lakers now because this is clearly a lot. It's a lot man. I mean listen I told you that. Yeah. I told you that, like, almost a year ago, I told you I'm telling you, this is a different relationship than the Lakers have been in previously. I've, I've reiterated that statement. No one wanted to believe that that was the case. And I'm telling you, we have now seen it unfold. So factually, not a relationship. It's a partner. Ship. It is. That's the way I that's what I said. It's not a religion or ship. A joint venture called that's all I was trying to tell people that this is not a normal relationship this partnership, they have gone into partnership with LeBron James and clutch, and that's how this works. And I'm I'm not mad at Rich Paul at all. No, I'm again, dude is working, again, much like I said with magic if Jeanie and your boss is going to allow you to helicopter in and out, then that's, that's the deal, and if you're rich and you're allowed to get that kind of access damn straight, you're going to get that access. You're gonna take advantage of that access because I sure as hell would I'm not blaming Rich Paul for a damn thing. So let's get to the magic thing before we have to break in here for magic live at four o'clock. So. Like the magic stuff. I've had tough bosses. Okay. Yeah, where the language hasn't always been, you know, perfectly suited for an office setting. But you know what? You deal with it. And I think ultimately, what matters in those situations is you get results or you don't get results. And yes, would I like in a utopic society for everyone to be nice and everyone to Pat each other on the butt. And well not, that's actually not good in the workplace. So I should take that out, Patty run in the back. Yeah. And and just everyone sing kumbaya. Sure, I'd like to the case, but not every work scenario. Is that now you played football? So that's not definitely out of the question. But it's still don't they got some, some similarities, though George, right? Sometimes you just want to be coached up, you know, coaches, come out there and tell you this is what's going on. But you got coach it up, right? Gimme a game plan. It'd be like, hey, this is what we wanna do. You better show me how to do how to do it right now. So there's the one story in there about this woman who allegedly worked for the Lakers. They didn't name her describe her who work for two decades for the team, and she was in some sort of logistics role, where she had to set up a car service for one of the kids. Who's gonna work out for them in the draft or something? And she screwed up and magic older. I don't tolerate mistakes and the next time you make a mistake. You're fired, by the way, if that was anyone I feel like that's the kind of conversation, you're going to have with your boss. I think that if they were you, if that were me that we're Mike, if they were funches who screwed that part up. We're getting an earful. Right. Isn't that me before that happens, again, you're doing? I mean right. I appreciate it. I got I got the message and it won't happen again. And by the way life, happens this way, when you disappoint a boss, who can be a little emotional, and I've had them, right? You kind of get in the doghouse a little bit, and it's hard to get your way out. But that's life. That happens in any workplace like that navy not to that extent. But I don't I don't believe that the stuff that happened there may look based on the reporting. Right. Maybe there was way worse stuff that I'm not aware of in that office. So I'm not gonna. Act like I know we're just talking about this article stuff that's in his article, like, yeah, some of this stuff should he have gone? Maybe a little pullback some perhaps. Yeah. I prefer it that way because I think you can't treat everyone the same shock once told me a great story about when he first came to the Lakers, and this is an actual story. He told me, so I don't know if he's lying or not. You know, we know shack likes to exaggerate. So I'm not pulling Pelinka. I'm telling you what he told me one day. Okay. Here's what we call an announcement them out Lincoln. He told me when he was playing with Eddie Jones, and Nick Ben axel, that he had to treat them differently that he knew he could chew out, Nick Van actual, and just like chew him out and be like mother, you better, get your in, you know. But with Eddie, he'd have to Pat him on the back. You know what I'm saying because that's how he responded better. And it's just that like you have to as a leader. You have to know how to do that. And that would be the one thing I would say about magic that. If you could do it over again. He probably do a little differently even though he did say you have no regrets. But I think that you have to take people for who they are, and their personality and people react differently in those scenarios. All right. Coming up next, Kirk. Are you ready? I'm ready. Magic Johnson live next. We are four minutes away from Magic Johnson fo- Stephen a Smith. And why go and Doc Rivers show on television, which Rupe initially was just supposed to be an NBA finals preview. But after what drop today? From Baxter homes will join us at five o'clock. My guess is there will be magic addressing some of these issues on this show at seven o'clock, eastern, four o'clock Pacific. Oh, push you. So I don't know how long you'll go on the stuff but we're going to do is we're going to run it live as I mentioned before. So, and then once they stop talking about the Lakers. We'll just come back to radio show and discuss what they discussed and then funchess and Michael monitor it to see if they get back to it at some point, which that might happen, by the way, it will that they may not just leave it. They may say let's tackle that later, let's actually talk about what we were here to talk about initially, and we'll discuss the Lakers stuff a little later that I don't know the format. I don't know what happened. I don't know how this is formatted. I'm we are guessing as much as you are at this point. So we are flying by the seat of our pants here. Remember, remember it was just a short period. Remember, Doc, Rivers is a candidate for the Lakers. Remember it was. Yeah, well managing Dr tight it was. It was just funny just thinking about old times three weeks ago. Longer than three weeks ago. What about a month ago I was a little long that was during the seasons, when dot came out and had to be like, you know, me and Steve, you know, we already talked about it. I'm just got my extension. Yeah, it was a couple months ago. I'm just I'm just thinking about just what is all transpire. Oh man. A lot has transpired and says that moment here in what I wonder what doctor was may have to say because people wanted him to be the coach right possible. Elvis, sudden he's sitting over there in the same city man. I'm glad I never even thought about taking that down but magic. Yeah, for sure magic Degen for state. He wanted to run Lou. I mean of the people who are available. I don't think he could still even say that. Even if he's not in that role that he wanted docked because that would probably still be considered tampering. But this, this can't tell you this real quick before we move on. Yeah, like Rich Paul really went to the Commissioner of the National Basketball Association. Won in the Wall Street, Walton go I mean good for him. I mean, I look, I don't think I think as you pointed out, Luke to took a lot of grief. But by the way, just because I think Luke took a lot of grief doesn't mean I don't think that I don't believe that Luke also did things that deserves criticism. Like I, I, I was someone who believed that Luke substitution patterns were ridiculous. He's got these hockey substitution coaching the warriors man like this isn't the same thing. So there, there is a, a line between Luke Walton took a lot of grief, which you are a thousand percent. Right. Right. And I don't know very many coaches that could have handled the dysfunction, that was illustrated. I don't know. Like somebody's coaches, in the story said, I'm not so sure why he just quit right? Right. I resigned. I thought the funniest part was how his coaching staff said that they all reacted the same way we reacted when they signed all those guys free agency, and they're like, what are we doing? How are we sign these dudes? So they had the exact same. I just feel like you know what it feels like no fence. Like you know, I'm not trying to dig a victory lap. But this validation for us here because we've talked about this so much. And now you know that even the dudes who were working there, the same way, we'd, but still fans fans are always going to say, you know, think the positive we got this. Look in the beginning, I was like I get it. These are LeBron has signed off on these guys. But then you start thinking about. But these guys can't shoot. Right. You bought a bunch of non-shooters about. Right. We know that we know that part. But man, yeah it's just wild. It's pretty what now I got a tweet that rolled in this room. Paolo Paolo says you can't question Magic Johnson's leadership skills. It's on the other person who can't take criticism. Well, the guy's a winner and whatever he does it works for him results only matter. Now, I do believe results matter. They have mattered in all his other lines of work, and he's gotten the results. And by the way, people that work in those businesses, we'll tell you that there's Irvine, and there's magic to show, he's only conducting himself in a fashion that has gotten him the results that he is craved in previous iterations, right? In other instances in other circumstances. So he just assumed that, that would be the case here with the Lakers. And you're listening to Caspian Los Angeles. So these sportscenter special NBA finals preview is set to start momentarily. And it has started now, so funds just tell me when they are all there is there's no, Stephen end wilpon. Just we'll wait for magic. I guess, to pop on the screen. Because they're just talking about the finals preview. Right. But we're we're still two days away from the finals. Right. Right. And so two days away, we're still trying to, you know, gather up in anticipation is still building. But when you wake up on the day after Memorial Day, and you've got Laker news. That's what kind of dominates the day it is crazy. It's crazy. How that dominates go finals? Who cares what the final right now? We'll see that on Thursday. You know what I mean? But for right now, this is still the biggest topic because it's LeBron James and evolved. And obviously in the green room is still. Okay. So dot rivers, actually, they're going to milk, this magic because Doc Rivers gonna be the I guess, so we can just do our show and just keep it locked to be is. They're going to do Doc Rivers right now. And then my guess, is they're going, I would milk magic to if I like no offense. They're gonna ask doc. How you don't hear all that yelling next door to your house next door? Now I'll hear nothing. Yeah. They're gonna they're milking. The magic thing a little. So you know stay with us here. We'll, we'll have that for you at some point. And then, don't forget, Baxter homes, who wrote the story will join us. All right. So let's let's start having the discussions. We were we meant that we didn't even get to the LeBron part of this, yet, 'cause we talked about Rich Paul. Yeah. We've talked about magic we've talked about rob, but how do you feel LeBrun came off? I think the brand did what any former player will not for playboy player would do. It's the same thing with me. Matter of fact. Oh, sorry urban has already taken, actually. Oh with the guys go. There he is. He's just talking. Give us a little Stephen ax to homes and his article on more behind the scenes turmoil with the Los Angeles Lakers is Shelley Smith. What are we can? When Magic Johnson and rob Pelinka were handed the keys to the Laker kingdom in February two thousand seventeen nobody expected this disharmony distrust anxiety attacks allegations of backstabbing of us, and basically sheer chaos when magic quit two years later, fans thought they were saviors Showtime was back and all would be right in Laker land. But you cannot take drama out of LA, Pelinka accused Johnson of not working hard magic accused Pelinka of backstabbing, both are accused of intimidating employees to the point that tune had panic attacks magic said he never disrespected, anyone, according to Baxter homes as story on ESPN dot com. Pelinka made up a story about Kobe Bryant meeting heat ledger for dinner to talk about how he'd locks in a role. The meeting was tied to ledgers iconic role as the joker in the dark night. But one of homes as sources with direct knowledge. So the dinner never happened and ledger died six months before the movie was released during the two thousand eighteen draft staffers in one war room strongly suggested taking Villanova, powerful word, Omari, Spelman, instead Lincoln magic in another war room chose more. It's Bogner for Michigan where Palinka had played his college basketball poll Inca has been known to sit in and coaches meetings irregular, for an NBA GM, and rich. Paul LeBron's agent weighed in on not only trying to get rid of head coach Luke Walton, but also was trying to get players traded first superstar in particular. The pelicans Anthony Davis Paul had so much. Access to the team that has homes reported road on the teen charter highly unusual. Although Paul said it happened only once still players told homes hall's career presence was destructive and quote, a culture killer when the data's trade fell through after players were gang gold as trade bait. One Lakers, coaching staff member told homes guys. No, there's no trust though. So what happens now this summer in one of the biggest free agency, periods, yet, if the Lakers can't land someone to move the needle, they could be facing their seventh season without making the playoffs. Now, here we offer the sports, and especially obviously, we will get into the NBA finals. That's primarily what this show is about what you see what has been written. Whether it's Rich Paul having too much influence. Whether it's Magic Johnson. You yourself two sides to magic Johnston on one that small before the camera and the one was, who's practically tyrannical as a leader for the Los Angeles Lakers, your response to these reports. I've been in business. Thirty five years of have partnerships with some of the biggest companies fortune five hundred companies in in the country. Now. I'm never set in HR person's office in thirty five years, two years with the Lakers. No HR parents genie buzz, do you think? Jeanie Buss will allow me to abuse, the employee's if that was the case, she would call me in Joe McCormack with a call me in the lawyer for the Lakers, as well as Dan, the other lawyer, it never happened. Right. I'm a person who brings everybody together uplift employees I'm never abused a ploy. And I never will. That's not what I'm all about now which Paul had access to the Lakers because he had two clients with the Lakers. He called and said, hey, I'm in Brooklyn. We've talked about allowing him to fly back with the team. That's the only time he flew with the team because they were it was in Brooklyn. And I allowed him to do it. That was on me. I live with him to do that. Then let's go to, you know, Robin. I when we were there we work well together, but the little thing that was going on behind the scene. That bothered me and last, but not least lazy. I have built a six hundred million dollar business. You cannot be lazy going from playing basketball and winning five championships. So I wasn't lazy as a player and I'm not lazy as a CEO in a business owner that's never going to happen. I was brought up in Lansing, Michigan. My father worked for General Motors for thirty years. Never miss a day. Never was late. Do you think he got allow me with six sisters and three brothers? It'd be lazy now the chance now last, but not least I worked for ESPN for two different separate occasions. Right. Worked for him. I think a total, maybe about eight year work with that, man, right there. Let's ask why didn't ask every ESPN employees. Did I ever abused him? Never happen, right? We work well together with Stuart with J B with Michael. I'm a guy that will tell you the truth. Now, a lot of Laker employees didn't like that. I held them accountable. That's what my, my job was did I had to fire some people? Yes, because we had to bring about change and get better. And I think we got a great staff. I will say this right now. The Lakers got a great staff. What's going to happen now is, we gotta get out to news. I'm really upset that I'm sitting here talking about that because I should be talking about Steph clay, you will remind you know. You know. Collide. That's what I want to be talking about. And I think today will be my last day until July. When I come on, I take 'cause I wanna thank you for allowing me to come and tell my true on I eight and I'm gonna come back and talk about what happened in the off season. That's the next time I'm gonna talk about the Lakers in July thing today. I wanna get to what way I missed the lazy part on Sunday. But he will call get me up. Earlier say can we get to the studio and you'd already hitting meetings? Sorry. What would you do differently as only as many successful businesses, adventuresome, some of them, you create it? What if anything would you do differently in our is basketball, so different that you would approach it differently Irvine? Well, I would have hired my own people from the beginning. The one thing I didn't get to, to hire everybody that I wanted my Robin, I got put together. I adhered it the Wotton. Yeah. So, so I, I didn't get the higher, my own people, and so then then you can just me. Hey, you can judge me by trays. I made you can judge me by I didn't have enough shooters you. Yes. That do some things wrong, of course and I admitted those things I'm not a guy's going run from the truth. I'm gonna tell you the truth. And also, you can talk bad about me if I did something wrong. I don't mind it, whether it's on ESPN or other shows say that magic made mistakes because I learned from my mistakes, but I'm also tell you what I didn't do. I never gotten called from Starbucks from Sony, when I had to deal with Magic Johnson theaters. I can keep going right now. So that so all the partnerships, I have the dodgers in and Guggenheim nobody's ever called me and said magic mistreated and employee ever in that would never happen. I love coming in even here, I still know all the people here, working here. What's the first thing I do? Oh, he's still here. How you doing? That's who I am. And so it's okay if you want to try to lie on magic go here, but I noted true genie knows the truth because if she if I had disrespected somebody she would call me in her office in that never happened HR would a call me it never happened. Two years. Never enough you. Yes, sir. Good enough mate. Yes, sir. Thomas talk. Some MBA founder Jolan. Okay. So here's what we do. We're gonna take a break, because there was a couple of things where we both were like ooh. Okay. So we're going to kind of dissect some of that coming up. You heard Magic Johnson live. We aired it live with Steven A and Michael wilbon will react to it. We'll open up the phones for you. If you have anything else to add because he said, this is it for him until July. He's gonna go back I in July eight seven seven seven ten years, peon, you and I will react will open up to the phone so Donald show. ESPN LA.

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Hour 2: Big Easy Decision?

First Take

15:58 min | 2 months ago

Hour 2: Big Easy Decision?

"Camp clinton doing this after two decades of hall of fame quarterback play and production for the new orleans saints the franchise finds themselves in an unusual position uncertainty as to who will be their starter facing the dilemma starting better jameis winston or the versatile tastes them. Hail here's both of them on the saints quarterback battle coach peyton knows who he has his talented. He's gonna he's gonna call the right place for us to to execute that way and So i just think you can't overcomplicate things and For me just come out and be who. I'm always been and make place. I think the competition makes both of us push push ourselves and is great for the team. You know to be able to to be around two guys. They support that. They're leaning on to be well for them Regardless of whose we quarterback play pretty good football in nfl Like once upon a time. So i'm just decided to give back to that in. I'm grateful that i get a chance to be one of those guys. So i'm looking forward to it max. Would you say that the saints quarterback battle actually says more about tastes them hill or jameis. Winston clearly jameis winston. Talk about a trick question. Four number one overall pick guy who by his second season at twenty eight touchdowns to eighteen interceptions not setting the world on fire but with a big arm for nine and seventeen. A lot of people are thinking. Hey can james like take that next. Step become an mvp caliber player. The next season though. That didn't happen no jameis. Winston stephen a. jameis winston not that long ago we were asking the question he be paid at the top of the market for a long term deal and be the face of the bucks franchise answer was a resounding no and now he's fighting for a starting job on a really good team but against the guy and i love tasting hill tastes them hills in excellent running back. He's a good receiver and he can play quarterback but a lot of people think of him as a glorified gadget player. I think that's a bit on there but still certainly he's thirty years old. You had a lot of time to get a job and of course at quarterback. It hasn't happened yet right. So he's not a great quarterback he can play the position. And that's jameis. Winston is in a death battle for for the starting position. Of course this says more. About how james winston has fallen. Okay i think it says more. About how tasting falling all. Just let me explain. He's thirty years of age. All of that stuff is true but damn he was behind drew brees. We understood why he wasn't playing. When drew brees went down shawn payne decided not to put jameis winston. He decided to put in his villas. A starter tastes illinois. it's four starts. Went three and one. He completed seventy two percent of his passes on the season. He was the third leading rusher for the team. With four hundred and fifty seven yards rushing behind. Alvin kamara and latavius. Murray when you take all of those things into consideration once upon a time we were talking about this brothers the heir-apparent we looked at him. And we said whoa look at him. He's got some wheels on him. He can throw a football. He seems to be talented. I'm saying why. Are we sitting there. Talking about davis winston. What about what. The hell is going on with him. Why is it that trump and can't make a decision about you when you got. It started four games last year. Once drew brees went down what has happened. I think that's a legitimate question. And i don't think we should be throwing shade on jameis winston. I think we should be looking at them hill. And saying what's missing bro. Was miss well. It was an outside the box. Thought that sean. Payton head and stephen and you remember super bowl week. we were doing shows. And where were we doing shows. I'm trying to remember. is this to miami. I guess it wasn't miami at the cleveland air. That's right alice a clevelander. It's exactly right. It was lifeless. still normal. And and sean payton. You know like i was saying i asked him. You really the stuff you're saying on tv really. And he had no what's in it for him to convince us off camera that no yet tastes and hill. I think is is is drew rises air. So what happened but that was that was. That was an outside the box kind of thought. We tastes a hill. A twenty eight year old running back receiver guy. Point layer is going to be quarterback in other words for tastes them hill. Not to grab that job and have a stranglehold on. It is understandable. It was it was a reach to think he was going to be a franchise. That rain was a reach for you. Not true in sean. Pay in the head coach on a new orleans saints. One does last year when we were hanging on to south beach when he joined us when we were out there and he came on the show he was talking about tastes hill. so what. i'm saying. Wait a minute now you this pre cove it. He was talking about tasting hill being heir-apparent to drew brees before he started in four games last year then he started them to four games. You go three at one how to how we go from there to taste them hill. Having a problem be now jameis winston. That was that would have it gets teddy bridgewater. Who's gonna get too expensive. They were going to have to lose. Jetties risen available yet. Things teddy bridgewater. I'm talking about what he said about what pay said to us. I'm saying your points valid in terms of what you ask peyton but when spe spoke to you he might have been a gadget. God he wasn't that way to take sean payton sure pay was raving about him. So what the hell happen. What the hell happened is. He's a decent quarterback who maybe they can do better what happened to genus. Who's supposed to be great. So he it. What sean payton said express his own new and may express you from the stretches teams in the game to confidence. Boosting suits that. Feel like sweats. Discover new arrivals at express shopping express dot com or in stores. Hey i'm molly karen rose and you're listening to the first. Take podcast tired after lunch yet. You're not alone. In fact research shows that more than seventy percent of us hit the wall after lunch. Let a five hour energy shot. Help you leap over that wall. Instead of crashing into it was zero sugar in a convenient portable size. It's the perfect me forgetting stuff done the five hour energy website has flavors galore like watermelon. Tropical burst cherry peach mango and more. There's a flavor for everyone. Try them all on the site. 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To be eligible to play since he went straight to the nba. Here's jr on his excitement for this next chapter very special. I can't wait to of as see family and it's really bitten embraced by everybody on campus. Oh cars Can we see students. Start on some of the football games and stuff. I really you know rep broad steven. What is garrett smith going to. Ncaa mean for htc us. I'm holly disgusted. He went to the wrong damn school. He went to the wrong. He should should've win. Thirty minutes. Further to winston salem state university that's way shed b. c. p. three. Oh lord take that photo. He said a winter he he went to the wrong school. Okay now listen let me let me let me be serious here. First of all. I have very very fond memories of my time. It was salem state going to north carolina. Change it's a very very special place at north carolina facilities like the library. Or what are you talking about your to. Mex that to max to a special place okay. That's number one number two in extreme seriousness. I'm proud of my brother. Going to going back to school. Getting his education and liberal arts That brother can golf. I've heard a lot of things about his golf game. Of fact i plan to reach out to to jr and steph and all of them to help me with my. Because i'm getting my own clubs made. I'm a. b. c. stephen going to do that golf. I'm gonna do god. I'm getting i'm serious. I'm getting clubs made and every free time you know how long it takes man. Michael wilpon is helping me c. p. three's ties eight. What world mex southern california and and it's a lot of golf courses country clubs and all of this. I think i could find the time. I think i could find a little town to squeeze it in the back country back to back to while i mean you got you. Get with the best golf courses. You know what. I'm saying. I mean i ain't gonna i mean i'm not a member but they let me in front of teaching me. Well here's the deal. Jr smith going back for his. Education is a two-time champion forming sixth man of the year award winner. You know i mean in. He's wanted to listen. You know he could be a bit temperamental atop stuff like that. But he's one of the most genuinely good dudes in the nba. And i'm really proud of. I really happy for one and the brother can play some golf. And it's going to be really nice to see. Say i like when vince carter went back member and he was still active at the time. But a lot of you hear a lot of players. I'm going to finish my degree. Whenever who's passing up millions of dollars in the draft you got to be crazy. Of course you're going to take the money and then it gets hard to go back. You get older and you already. You're living comfortably and it takes effort so my hat is off to. I mean the fact that he's doing this my hats off to the value of a liberal liberal arts education at this level. It's not just well like go. Get a job. it's not just that. Does he need the money right. No it's about becoming a more fully formed human being there. I don't wanna say sound condescending. And sam proud of him. But that's kind of the feeling you get the fact that he chooses. An hp is also an important decision and an example to set my hats off to him and again and again in all. Seriousness does a hell of a lot worse places to go to know carolina. Easy can't help himself. I'm just saying do you own or rent your home. Sure you do. And i bet it can be hard work you know. It's easy bundling policies with geico. Geico makes it easy to bundle your homeowner's or renter's insurance along with your auto policy. It's a good thing too because you already have so much to do around your home. Go to geico dot com. Get a quote and see how much you could save. It's gyco easy visit. Geico dot com. Today that's geico dot com. Math says when to great things come together they make something greater for instance. One plus one is two. Oh simple right. How about this shrunk. Plus hotdog equals tailgate. Turf plus dancefloor. He was in zone. And when you add friends plus football equals. Espn fantasy football. It's as simple as that. Espn fantasy football with insights provided by ibm watson. Sign up now at espn dot com slash fantasy. Football fall is back. Y'all preseason week one officially begins tonight. Washington takes on the patriots. And the steelers aren't philly to take on the eagles. All four teams have questions when it comes to their quarterback cam new bounce back big ben bounce back from last season and why jalen hurts ryan fitzpatrick will they step up in their new role so quarterback play in question. Here what's an nfl team. That is a good quarterback away from contending. stephen a. i'm gonna say this chicago bears. That's what i'm going to say I think about the defense. And i think that whatever struggles they had a defensive side of the ball last year was a direct byproduct of what was transpiring because their offense particularly at the quarterback position The combination of nick foles would trubisky Combined combined date through for for you know with four thousand yards all right but they weren't getting it done and we all know that and as a result it hampered the defensive put them in precarious positions to out the season. Their defense is a championship caliber. Defense as far as i'm concerned they can make things happen. Led by the mac daddy himself. Khalil mack. I believe in them and i believe they can do some things if they get any kind of production whatsoever from their quarterback position and as an aside max i want to. I want to tell you in mali. One of the most hilarious things. I read this morning and it was. It was a quote from mitchell. Trubisky mitchell trubisky. Dad knew where he said. It's nice to be in a place where you feel wanted. I was i was eating. He said it. But i didn't see the quote to last night. Max i almost choked about food. I was levels a hug. 'cause i'm like. Let me get this straight. You were starting quarterback right. He talked about feeling once it. Will you in buffalo as the backup and backing up. Do decide to six year. Two hundred and fifty eight million dollar contract which will be holding a clipboard draft. Forget that right. The task foams watson to draft. All you feel wanted being a backup. That's going to be holding a clipboard. It less josh. Allen gets idiot after being the starter. That's definitely going to be a one. I know people that wanted to under those conditions. They didn't want your the startup but they want to join adults conditions. So i found that to be comical. I really did. I know i know. A lot of people are high on fitzpatrick and his ability to lead an explosive offense in washington. They have more playmakers on offense. They have a great defense in washington. But if it's patrick is your quarterback. Maybe he's a starter. But he's not a franchise quarterback if francis patrick's quarterback it's because you can't find a franchise quarterback and if the washington football team had a guy who said that dude's a franchise quarterback. I think they'd make a playoff run this year as i don't know that they make the playoffs. We'll see they have a great defense and then the other pick by the way which is why. There's so much pressure on carson. Wentz is the colts. Colts colt had a good quarterback super bowl. Carson wentz really. so they'll so they're in the hunt for the super bowl this year. Now the super bowl but good quarterback we said are they for content for. Could you put the saints in their. No question no question. The saints are a quarterback away. So are the colts will see what carson wentz can do. So what is the washington football team. Yeah the launch. Our david montgomery alan robson and those boys. I think you get quarterback production. Would that defense chicago. I think he can make things happen. Fields is drawing rave reviews of far. I'm rooting for mitchell trubisky. I just thought his quote was hilarious. Know that is especially when you look at the whole situation. All right steven you. Behave yourself out there and try to you on monday by guys.

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Captain SaveAFranchise?

PTI

00:00 sec | 2 years ago

Captain SaveAFranchise?

"Partly interruption. But I'm Mike Rowe Baen. It's the first day of summer, and as everyone knows summertime is the right time for filling Frank baby. That's how we roll. The right time for the first day of the first springtimes at the right time. Well. You guys don't play golf, but those times. Fair and accurate observation, welcome to feed with corn has needing a breeder. I've pleased to welcome our great friend from the Atlantic Mr. Frank guys sold. The perfect we begin with the aftermath of last night's NBA draft specifically with Zion Williamson, and the remake of the New Orleans pelicans the club wound up with three more picks. First rounders Jackson Hayes, the kilo, exander, Walker, and Brazilian second round pick swing DeeDee Silva, and David Griffin saying, it's drew holidays team for now anyway added, quote, don't write this like Zionist here to stay. The franchisee is not. He is here to join this family close quote, Frank. Nice, try by Gulf, but is he actually going to be able to shield Zion from pressure not until the game start? I guess, you know, here's the thing about Cy on Williamson. He comes into the league as the most hyped player since LeBron James even more Ron James into the league media, as you know, all the pressure in the world, the face of the franchise, I got a chance to talk this. I on on Wednesday, New York, and I said, is there a lot of pressure face of the franchise. He said. What do you mean by face of the franchise? Listen, you and David Griffin could avoid it all you want. There's gonna be a lot of pressure in this. He's handled everything great college career the way that he handled the injury coming back from injury losing the NCAA tournament make no mistake about it, though. When you're this big of a player of one of the most high players, mostly in the last eight years, maybe because the world, we live pressure on the way it operates he's the most types. He's more hype than LeBron. Yeah. Because social media was just starting to sort of have the presence. Every the daily presence. Let me say this. I'm gonna go back the other win disagree a little bit. I think that griffis handling this perfectly, and I think you tamp down expectations. First of all, they surrounding him with an athletic team, the kind of team oughta make it a little easier for him to be introduced into the NBA. I think when you say constantly you can't you can't make avoid it. But you can lesson I think the stress on Williamson by doing this way. But you know the fans are looking at it. He's replacing Anthony Davis who you traded that said Anthony Davis made it to the playoffs twice got out of the first round one time. Once it doesn't that make it easier because that New Orleans is a football environment football culture. I notice how they're even saying we can have a second team. We can be a second protein town that they're after the saints. They're probably after LSU, and they haven't done anything. There's nothing he has to follow. I'm going to name drop before you do. I've done radio on Sirius with David Griffin. He knows how the game is played us. He was with LeBron James in Cleveland. He's smart to say this now because he knows the fans and the media wanna make it all about Zion. It's smart to make it about right now. Say it's drew holidays team, even though we know eventually, it's all about, well, while much of the emphasis in New Orleans is to lighten the load on Zion is quite the opposite in New York with the Knicks drafted RJ Barrett before the end of the night, walk through the halls in Brooke. Klin holding up a Knicks jersey. The kid is set for days despite being nineteen years old, that he's built for the pressure of playing in New York for team that always has outsized and unmet expectations Frankie spent much of your life covering knickebocker. Do you think New York is going to be as embracing of him? I think number one he joins Nick team. He's already the best part of the team that says a little bit about him. It also says a lot about the New York. This fan base has been dying. The Knicks have had the worst record the NBA the last eighteen years. You're coming off of seventeen worst worst overall record in the NBA, Minnesota great note, so they coming up seventeen and sixty five they're ready to embrace anything right now. He's the highest pick they've had since Patrick Ewing, and you think of all these first round picks and have had the last thirty years to have become all stars, as Knicks, David ly-, the next year was gone. Christoper's Aengus the next year was gone there dying for a player like this who calls himself, the maple Mamba because he's from. Candida. He's got the right attitude has to produce. I worry about this kid, I worry of is that enough met him and his dad, he has just pedigree. I mean, you know, he comes from a family that understands it's he observes his dad being the head of Canadian bathroom all in the pressures that come with this. And so he's grown up with he is probably best quipped to handle this of any drafty and he's still not a crypt to handle it. Because the first he goes three for thirteen they're going to boom, look, Carmelo couldn't handle this. And camello is a hall of Famer who won a national championship as a freshman college, I feel for RJ Barron, because I think nothing was data. Knicks fans it's gonna take them years. The team still stinks. I just think I feel for this, especially turns out, especially if they don't strike, it big and free agency you in college he ever twenty two points a game. He also took eighteen in a forty minute car healing. And on your team Frank. Do you think has dawned on him that they're gonna stink the next thing era boil? It has, and I don't want it to all just come crumbling down on him. See that's the difference between him and Zion. There's no big pressure outside expectations of pelicans who only been the pelicans for about three years in New Orleans, the New York, Knicks always think they're more than they are. And they're usually less than everything when you pointed out worse record in eighteen years, eighteen years lagging and now they're going to turn over and expect him to deliver them. How about the scene with RJ Barrett and his dad ruin Barry rate? John and his. A hug high on emotional crowd love that scene with those father is hell did a great job. She really was great. And now starts to worry. I know. You son put in that, man. All right. The Washington Wizards. They use the night overall pick to select Gonzaga's, Ryuhachi Mora, who became the first Japanese-born player taken in the first round to nice story. It's a solid pick, but it's still something of a surprise since Haji more revealed, he never met nor spoke to anyone with the wizards. Michael, this is in your backyard. So does the way the wizards are currently operating concern you at all. And that may say more about historically the wizards you talk about the Knicks storage. The wiz historically. They haven't talked about the reason of that certain Toronto president would not becoming the Washington, even if offer was out because the resources, right? And the wizards aren't the richest team. They don't have the longest purse-strings of any team and historically, and while Ted spends much more money than the previous regime. They haven't spent the kind of money that says they're going to follow some prospect of Jerry Krause, followed Toni Kukoc all the way across eastern Europe that good job at Scotty Pippin to that's right. That's not been the wizards and I guess it doesn't shock because they haven't done it the Knicks have that kind of money the clippers who followed Kawai littered every game that, that's not the wizards most I'm not shot. They, they obviously watched him and watch a lot of Bill stout. Hey heard they aren't that he was moving up. And then you start hearing these comparisons. Let's pump the brakes a little bit about collide Leonard, but he does have a seven to wingspan. He is a great. He's got the right attitude. I think if you're Washington, it was worth the risk, because you're talking about Jaanus at fifteen coup why people are putting him in that same category. I laid watch it is a little much. But I think the wizards, Tommy Sheppard as inter he's probably gonna get the full time job. I think he's looking to hit it out of the part knowing that people are going to be willing to be patient with thought he would be gone like you said. Yep. And Tommy Sheppard. I mean, they also didn't do anything. Crazy like trade up six spots to get them and some of the assets, they still have remaining. I think it's a great pick. I think he's going to fit in here talking about personality in a place that it matters his personality seems wonderfully suited for Washington. I think also he's, he's one of the players as Jay Bilas about his yesterday. Is this one of the guys, you think who's going to over performed his draft position? I think and hope will Maria Taylor. I love when she said, we want you talk to people back home in Japan, say something. So we said something in Japanese. I could've sworn he said, the wizards really paying, John. Seven billion dollars in the twenty to forty before he sees John McCall. Right. Gonna be a long time. Okay. Man, forty seven million, while the US women are being widely lauded for taking down Sweden to nothing yesterday, Sweden's coach is dismissive of his team's loss or any big picture. Meaning Pinner Peter guards and said, quote, we didn't think in advance and it was important to end the first or second in the group close quote, for example, while Victoria's US team could have to go through Spain. France England and Germany. That's gotta murderers row swin could be left with an easier road that would include Canada Germany and Japan. Frank who'd you rather be moving forward, the US or sweet eight years ago, Japan did beat the US in the final, I'd rather be the US, because I'm a better team, but some of our people in the media, the American media, some of them over in France, where advocating for the US not to win the group so they can avoid France? Hang on a second. This. The way it works. You avoid us. We don't avoid you where the best team you have to get to a point where the US you're only going to start really playing between fifteen and sixteen players from now on the only get three subs game. You wanna play your regular group? So the US had to go out and win that game momentum. It was a smart thing. I don't agree with the coach from Sweden. I'm torn here because I mostly agree with you. You wanna get that group of women playing together with serious Zach purpose and not have some sort of, well, let's just take this night off and then we might wind up with the easier road. First of all that rule could be harder. That's always a kiss. You talk about this with seeding, right in the team's jockeying position who they're gonna play that often backfires Frankie right about that. But you when you look at that murderers row that the US could have to face and in Sweden, maybe Sweden's been at this long enough for their unfazed by it. Right. And they've had some Vic international victories themselves even with a defending champs. We are team but. France gain is the one at and say, okay, the hosting that's gonna be loved to have seen US cana-, which could have been a great game. But I, I also think this is Swedish coach knowing we're probably gonna lose, I'm gonna arrest seven of my players. So it's like a mind game. He was almost playing with zone, teen US, plus the mind US had the easiest draw up until the sweet and they were right to play. All right. The NHL announced several route changes the upcoming season including referees reviewing all major penalties. You may remember the San Jose Sharks going or power play goals against Vegas on a controversial major penalty in game seven of the first round that, of course, makes sense. But the league is also considering a radical change in how the game is played by eliminating the offside rule all together Michael, when you played basketball, you known as a cherry picker, would you support? This change was say, and no. I mean this comes up, I don't know. Seems like every twenty years. Right. You know, let's not have off sides. You're gonna have cherry picking games. Fourteen to twelve this is the way it's going to work and they avoided they realize happens. Then they changed the rule once basically the W H A force, a change of more wide open hockey and allowing two line passes. I'm old enough to be a kid when you couldn't have that. And so now you have more wide open game. I don't think they're going to have no off sides. It would rather dramatically a like the ham pass review JAT review the major penalties as long as you like college football have somebody already working on that play in a boot. Some other city you're on the phone or whatever it is quickly, the communication goes. And you don't spend all day doing get like college football where it's quick and it doesn't intrude on the game. And for all the fans up in Boston. They're also saying you cannot review what you think should have been a penalty, of course that's off. But should have been a tripping penalty game five, which was huge call, but you can review the major penalty, you cannot rescind the penalty, but you can reduce it to a minor penalty. And the people in Vegas is still screaming about that. Change the Stanley Cup final hour in the playoffs as we know it. But I just think speed is everything 'cause you're talking about adding a lot of potential review. John here for you. But I think to the off call I understand wanting to open up the ice. But that's too radical much much. Let's take a break coming up. What's the word what bowl bowl had to sit through last night? The bad one and was it really any? And what Jack gladdy doing door. Well, one of those things happy about one I'm sad about you can guess who came within this fortune. The. An IRA to have strong words, teach other I it was black to watch bowling bowl. Wait to get picked at forty four Frank in real time. I thought it was excruciating because, you know this kid. First of all, he's you can't miss them. He sent a one or seven to get the most eye-catching out that out there with the spider web deal. And he's been a top five or top ten talent coming into college. What do you play? Those nine games, Oregon. His numbers were great and he expects to be a high first round pick even with the foot injury. Mid first round, and he goes to forty forty eventually goes to the Denver, which I think is a good landing spot, but it was excruciating. Yeah, I said, poorly produced and from a new poll son here he is one of twenty two guys. That's, that's who get selected to sit in what they call the green room. So they have to have a pretty good idea of where you're going to go. They missed by that much as a big miss. They said twenty two he. Owes forty four and I felt badly for this here little of North Carolina because see was dropping to twenty fifth and you went to poor using a pretty situations guy goes all the way to forty sitting there for. Disconnect work out, okay for bowl. There was blowing ice from Croatia out of the crowd to go to. Dan? What's next Kobe whites reaction that Cam Johnson getting picked at number eleven was blank Koby white had been drafted by the bulls. He's in near in the room having a press conference. And here's this reaction to his teammate. Cam Johnson getting picked by the sons. Cameron Johnson just went eleven teddy react to that news. He went would eleven came Audra living. Yep. Spread on the screen right there. Wow. Wow. Wow, bro. That's crazy. That's so love bro. Because y'all new Cam, you on a hard Cam work. Eight knows a lot of people doubt on, but wow. I'm just bro. It's such as crazy row. Wow. That's so crazy. I'm so happy for him right now. I don't understand how have for Cam 'cause he like he proved a night in night out. He deserves to be, you know, in the conversation for a lottery pig man. He shot the wall. Like anyone I've never seen before my life or play with, so I'm so while bro. That's I'm getting to you. You would think my word is going to be, wow, but it won't be. Wow, by the way. I love the bulls. Have an appointment with that kind of person. Yeah. It's Kobe west. We actually Cam Johnson being pick number eleven was sunny, because he's going to the Phoenix Suns where with Taizhou Rome, and Sarge. These guys were all acquired last night. Cameron Johnson six nine the best shooter in college basketball last year. I'm excited for the Phoenix Suns sunny is my work. Johnson ninety six three pointers last July word is gonna be uncool be like, because the real Brian, I never flinch that happy. We should I knew he was going eleventh, really that big of a deal. But I do that Kobe acts like that, because you can tell he loves his teammate in the one thing about all these guys, I Williams would rather talk about RG Barrington. Talk about himself. Same thing with Kobe, white right here that bodes well for the NBA all these guys have to play major roles. What's next last one Jack flare of the cardinals should feel blank about getting picked off with the game on the line humiliated. Humiliated, that's only come up with. Look Jack flirty who's a pitcher. He was put it as a pinch runner for yachting Molina, and it's a seven six game. And my she'll made all kinds of manager made all kinds of excuses, tried to take planes of oil, but he gets picked off. You gotta feel humiliated, and, you know, he was 'cause you see his face. He fell asleep. Frankie wasn't paying attention in that moment is sapping. The anybody even great athletes he stood on his knees sat there used us like humiliated, you look at the ground crews coming out, I said, it's familiar because this was the last out of the game on Saturday against the Mitch. He tried to score as a pinch runner from first on a blue p- single gets thrown out at home plate. Also the game recive base running error. And that's why he doesn't want to get off the field last night, because he does his teammates kill them, but falling asleep. Exactly. That's the other one, you can't fall asleep. That's like a little league play a cardinal so happy. I'm okay with it here. Cardinal hater. I am H words. Frank. Let's take one last break was still calm Klay Thompson actually return next season. Yes. In are we sure Jesse Winker was safe on this play look at, like the matrix reds guy? I want him to be out too. Happy time, people happy, sixty third birthday Rick Sutcliffe the former dodger. Cub Indian Oriole ace, I refuse to attach to the cardinals has been calling games brilliantly for years. But as best these for me was nineteen Eighty-four when Cleveland traded him to the Cubbies and he went sixteen and one to the liver the north side to their first postseason action since nineteen forty five was sunk, clim says the ball juiced boys and girls listen up. He finished first in the Cy Young. Remember him in doc Gooden on the cover Sports Illustrated, who's gonna win the Cy Young. He. That's right. That people forget about a not so happy anniversary, Christian Friedrich around this date five years ago. Rocky starting pitcher capped off the tough outing against brewers by allowing three runners to score off one wild pitch. Here's the video and here little leaguers, what not to do three drinking catcher. Michael mckenry feeling sorry for themselves and falling asleep of count for the final run. Even check Flaherty would have scored on the cardinals. On that play. You keep fell asleep. He never call time out. Yet to get the for flirty, little happy trails to a successful tag on Jesse. Winker the reds outfielder hit a line drive into the left center, gap and decided along the way, he was going for a triple as he approaches thirty twists his body around and over two third baseman originally called out, but in the replay era, the tag has to actually be made to get the call and Winker slide that you can call it that creatively, awful, buddy voids attack. And he's really safe take that this was an out in every decade, most restore hundred hundred years. That's an out. One ball beat them. Baseball has the spended as as Frankie Montus eighty games for testing positive for banned. He was nine two two seven oh, eerie clearly hit into all sorts not anymore. Running out of show is the big finish Frank Andre dollar toll. I take Klay Thompson will be back in February your thoughts Thompson. He's coming back. He's playing Rick Pitino. Says he won't return to Greece and instead wants a job in the NBA think he's got a chance. In the style of play to enter to rises, the NBA now. So maybe so the Yankees activated Aaron judge is expected to play tonight. What do you expect home runs told the Dallas Kyko makes his Braves debut tonight against the net Madison? Bumgarner gave a ten hits and six runs. Three in two-thirds innings is worse start ever against the dodgers. Your thoughts. The same had yesterday. When I said, even elders get lit up like a Christmas tree, the dodgers would not playing around with mad bum. All right. Last one soccer specialists that comes to you. US mitigates. Trinidad and Tobago in Cleveland tomorrow. Will you got and why TNT knock this out of the last World Cup? We've gotta run up the score like the US swimming. How about that? That would be worth about two three those name Radha time. Thanks for watching. I'm Frank I saw. And I'm Mike. Rowe bond have a great weekend. Knuckleheads. You can get the TI podcast on the ESPN app, or apple podcasts, always has a great weekend. Michael wilpon. Okay.

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Potential Problems

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Potential Problems

"Hey it's dan. Patrick here to tell you about the dan patrick school. The sportscasting up teamed up with full sail university to create a sports casting. Bachelor's degree you work both on and behind the cameras and you build skills for the future of sports. You can connect with audiences no matter where they are or how they're tuning in learn more about full sail university. Dan patrick school to sportscasting by going to full sail dot edu slash. Espn the interruption. But i'm mike wilpon tony's national dinosaur. I'm tony kornheiser. Shout out be ground. You know as much as hugo loves and he mentioned that occasionally. He's still he's still a tough god okay right. He may have a few years on you. But you don't want you become an after you doing this. Why do you think i'm going here. You be you're the one who after we do this. All the time says that's great. Let's live from me under the bus one. We love we welcome. Pti boys and girls in today's episode. The lakers and suns are back on the court. Jacob degrom era drops again and the maple leafs dropped game seven in today with joel. The seventy sixers saw their center. Go down with a right knee injury in the first quarter in their playoff game against the wizards last night the sixers were head by eight with embiid and they lost by eight without him. Doc rivers said postgame that embiid would have an mri. Today will on your thoughts on the potential impact of beads injury. Tony you know. So far injuries are defining the nba playoffs. And this ought to be. I don't know a lesser for anybody. Who's paying attention on both labor and management. The the playoffs being ruined slowly. But perhaps surely the biggest stars in the game are hurt in the postseason and so this is just i. I hate seeing this. An embiid's case philadelphia. The sixers were really starting to play not well but great with embiid at the center of it. I mean he was playing as well as yoke into we think is going to be the. Mvp embiid is back in that space. But tony with him diminished. Or without him. It's hard for me to see. I'm not gonna say impossible hard for me to see the seventy sixers being able to get past the second round it. If you struggle with the wizards and you go six. Seven games in that round. It hurts the team going forward. It's an awful thing. This is playing so well but the theme of these playoffs so far have been injuries to stars. Yeah and bead misses a lot of time. He's on the ground a lot. Him and anthony davis they missed a lot of games. Here are the numbers. Women beat is playing with the sixers. They're thirty nine and twelve. That's great when he's out there. Ten and eleven. That's not great that means he's missed. Twenty one of seventy two games and that's a lot. I'm with green and this particular quote we're gonna need him to be the last team standing. That doesn't mean we can't win the next game without him. And that's totally true. The wizards aren't going to be the sixers four in a row. If embiid is on the moon they're not gonna do it. But as you say the bucks or the nets the sixers are not gonna be on the moon right if he's on. No no tony. Emperor tons is out to the wizards little going. You know they played really well last night. Even know rusted shoot well building schule bills to greatest stretch so as russ just the rebound volume. Russell gets at six threes insane but they need brittan. So i mean they do i mean he is a primary shooter on that team and floorspace or knows finally after all these months now how to play off westbrook. It's just you know you look at these games on who's going to be standing next. Who's standing in the next game. We moved to the west vigil. He wasn't up. The story. isn't the wizards this not yes. Seventy sixers and and there's another story to the other story. Is ben simmons at the line where he's five of twenty which stinks that's not nba quality on any level. And he's got to get better or he'll never be the player we think he is going to be and plus album at the end of the game all the time because you can't take him out he's too valuable he's too good like the fatter shadow setup guard except shack could run away from the play late in the game. Ben simmons ought to have the ball he get run with anything so he wants to run with your line. He seems allergic to it right now. Over in the west the jazz beat the grizzlies to take a three one series. Lead donovan mitchell. And he had been hurt for some games had thirty two lead utah to the seven point win. Of course the jazz also held a three one series lead over the nuggets in the first round last season before folding and after the game mitchell said quote. We've been here before it definitely is fuel. Close quote tony. Should the jazz be haunted by blowing that various same lead last season. I mean just clarify one thing donovan. Mitchell did miss. Some games missed one game and he want wanna miss that game and nobody understands why he missed that game. Now let me give you the distinction between laos sonic games at the end of the regular season. Like twenty of them. Thanks you're talking about the playoffs. We're just talking about the playoffs. That the season no longer matters this is the season last year. Utah was a six seed and they lost to a three denver. They were the underdog. They're not even supposed to win that. This year utah is a one-seat utah had the best record in all of the nba. Utah one i believe. Fifty two games. Yeah fifty two games. They're playing eight seed that had to sneak in as a nine seed because they had to win to play in games so that means last year they wouldn't even be allowed in this and they won thirty eight games memphis and i told you before you can write all poetry to john moran. You want. he's not supposed to win this series. In fact i think he was eight for twenty one last night. Utah may be in jeopardy down the line but they're not in jeopardy in this one. I don't think the talk funny how you just decide. You know who you're going to bless and you think that. Oh maybe i'm gonna forget over the years. The james didn't even make the playoffs first couple of seasons and you're blessed him and said he was rookie of the year. Mvp and and god love ninety. he did. He didn't get his team to the playoffs. So you just you just do you try to move the goal post. You can do that on pablo you do it on me now okay. Memphis will be a worthy opponent. But they're not yet right now. They're team in training with the team in formation and utah. These are close games though. Tony these are not double digit. Blow out like you might expect the number one seed to have what's number. One seed usually has 'cause memphis common. They're not going to get across the finish line right now. Tony but would it. Surprise me if memphis one one more game maybe but utah should is not last. Utah loses to be fast. It's fast easy you tell me. I'm moving goalposts. Yeah your usual. You sat there all year long. You sat there and said when are you going to recognize utah. What are you gonna get off by five and gives credit to utah. Well i'm doing it here and you telling me somehow i've changed the rules. Okay there is no way with what you where you were on utah. How much you. There's no way you think they're going to lose the series no way zero so we said i don't going to win now. We turned out a hockey game. Seven you told me you would definitely watch last night. We'll s montreal was down three games to one in this series. They went to toronto last night. They won game seven three two one. This was the first time toronto and montreal off the playoffs in forty one years. Which seems incredible. As i say it because they are the two most important franchises in the nhl bought. Are you giving credit to the canadians or you. Blame the maple leafs. We'll tell them. I think any time you you win a game seven you look at the victor you say they won is they want to pressurise highly pressurized situation but tony v.'s post. I'm listening to bury melrose and berry just crushed toronto. He said the whole thing was basically an embarrassment from top to bottom from the executives. The players on the ice said they weren't tough enough. It was like whoa. I listened to melrose. I needed to play a back. He just crushed the maple leafs and i. i'm i'm i'm likely listen to bury melrose. Who has played in these things and coached in them. I'm sure he's co some game seven. I just couldn't believe how much he smashed them. How hard he did so. I'm gonna credit montreal. Still it was still a game seven. They have pressure on them. Tony you would think that they were a heavy underdog. Given how far ahead. Toronto finished of montreal in the regular season there was a soft girl goal early and again according to bury toronto soft the rest of the game so got at least pop them a little bit having heard what's his analysis of this. So i like barry melrose. I believe he lives in glens falls where my original college roommate. Dave carpenter lives. So i liked. Barry melrose let me. Just say this. And i'm going to give you numbers here not analytics. Just straight numbers. Montreal was the worst team in the playoffs in the entire league. Montreal had fifty nine points. Toronto had seventy seven toronto. One that same division. Toronto was said to be a stanley cup. Contender during the regular season mike. Toronto was seven two and one against montreal. If you add the three one at the beginning of series they were ten three and one. Okay so how did they lose toronto. Three games and the answers they show. Yeah it's that simple. There's no other explanation. They choked in. Forget about the fact. They haven't won a cup and forty seven years. They're terrible the playoffs. The last time they wanna series i think was two thousand and four. I wrote that down. My toronto has lost eight straight series clinching games. They've lost four straight win or go home games. What what else can i'm sure mill mention. This what can you say. They're the cubs there at the cubs back in the arts and the nineties and the eighties. And they they were the red sox back in speaking of eighty and eighty six there those two franchises they see tony paralyzed by these pressurized moments. And by the way they're not. Russia is the conference championship or the finals. Even in the first round they can't get out of which is why they remind me of those two franchises in the nhl. Mike they have a lot of money. They spend a lot of agility. Get nothing for it in a game. Seven at home. They went down one zero two three. Oh come on. let's take a break coming up to. The lakers of the sons have edged. Tonight's game and the race and the giants are leading their respective leagues. Who's had the more impressive season so far. I'm not moving goalposts. I'm on utah now. Talk memphis utah. Should beat memphis. We all agree on that. We don't disagree on that. I'm just saying they've got hit ninety five on ninety five to fifty seven last. I checked with no fees or minimum on checking and savings accounts banking with capital. One is like the easiest decision in the history of decisions kind of like choosing to listen to another episode of your favorite podcast and with our top rated app. You can deposit checks and transfer money anytime anywhere making capital one and even easier decision. That's banking reimagined. What's in your wallet. Terms apply capital one and a member. Fdic province voice over artist. I'm here to explain bottomless. How do i get across free refills on fries drinks. Well here goes bottomless at red. Robin means free unlimited refills on the fries and sites that come with every burger oratory that means free refills on steak. Fry sweet potato fries. Yukon kettle chips garlic fried broccoli side salad softwares ice teas than even root beer floats offered that the knicks fire into your does robin toss up. Two men entered one man. Leaves finishes the show then starts creating fresh content. I only fans account. Was i toss up. Who do you favorite tonight. The lakers or the sons. I will bun. I never bet against lebron james but that doesn't mean i bet on him all the time. Sometimes i avoid the window. This would be i. Would avoid wisdom phoenix ever going to win a game. Anthony davis may not play. If he plays may not be one hundred percent phoenix. I think this would be the game that they would win. Lebron when he's out there. That team is plus thirty seven. When he's off their minus thirty three. So when i will say is i have total faith lebron but i don't have faith in the other lakers and i'll read this lebron quote if i can get to it quote. These shoulders were build for a reason if it takes for me to put some more on top of them then so be it win lose or draw ready for the challenge is a great question ramona. Shelburne lebron about just how much he can carry at this stage. You've been out there one hundred years and it was a great answer. Is lebron james game five. He's as great as anybody's been ingrained. Five i mean he's right. There was a koby and jordan and magic and he would obviously anybody on the russell celtics. He's so grading game fives. This is game five tony. This is the biggest game here in phoenix in eleven years. This is the biggest game since steve. Nash murray stoudamire knows you know those those. Those phoenix teams. They were finals randy got. I am take hung. I'm taking the phoenix suns tonight. Lot of pressure on them. I'm taking them tonight. Tony i know lebron grading game five. But i'm expecting chris paul now that he's back to something close really close to his usual self to lead phoenix game. Five win next. Toss up more impressive season so far the raise or the giants giants are tremendously impressive. They haven't been over five hundred since two thousand sixteen. Nobody expected it'd be this good in division with the dodgers in the padres. Beat the dodgers. Three in a row apparently gave catholic can manage and people in philadelphia. Didn't wait around long enough to show him. But if you go back to last year the only thing anybody remembers about the raise in the world series is kevin cash taking blake. Snell out you michael wilpon. You killed him. You brought down. The wrath of god on kevin cash. Snell has gone charlie. Morton is gone. They have you can't name anybody team they have no payroll but they've won sixteen of their last seventeen. Thirty five and twenty. That's the best record in baseball. And for that reason right now tampa's more impressive. Yeah i think the sixteen seventeen swathes me tony and we're gonna get we're gonna keep talking about this. Probably because if one of them drops off we'll say okay it was a mirage and if the other one one of them are both of them keep going that's going to be pretty impressive too in that division with the dodgers and padres. I mean they brought the early smoke and the giants. What we talking about the giants for off tony. I'm gonna say six hundred seventeen trumps everything right now and i can bring the wrath of god on anybody later. If any franchises manager you don. I'm sorry general manager wants to overrule the manager as often happens in baseball so much at people may crazy stupid decisions but right now it doesn't matter what they did or didn't do last year it's tampa in the moment. You killed kevin cash. And i would point out the. Al does actually deeper than the nfl. Got four teams over five hundred. That's likes take one last break still to come jacob. Degrom lowe is leading. Era mowers it. They also have to orioles. Everybody could beat the hell out of it. Oh wait from your house on. I ninety five zone. Auto nuggets is league game. What should we expect in trying to win the lotto now. It's on together the stay here. I know they stayed. Do you own or rent your home. Sure you do. And i bet it can be hard work. You know it's easy. Bundling policies with geico geico makes it easy to bundle your homeowner's or renter's insurance along with your auto policy. It's a good thing too because you already have so much to do around your home. Go to geico dot com dennis quote and see how much you could save. Its gyco easy. Visit geico dot com today. That's geiko dot com. Which are you more willing to pay the commitment to prepare your workforce for the future or the cost of inaction. It's a question you can't afford to ignore. Introducing pro edge appear wc product. It's the revolutionary way to upskill your people in prepare your organization for tomorrow proactively owned your digital transformation with your existing workforce. Prepare your workforce for tomorrow. Visit pro edge dot p. Wc dot com slash podcast to learn about upscaling. Citizen led innovation and the workforce of the future havoc time people happy fifty first birthday. Alexi laos lawless and landon. Donovan may be the most familiar names in. Us men's soccer history. Wallace was a defender was immediately recognizable as great thatch of red hair. He was on to. Us world cup teams nineteen ninety four nine hundred ninety eight and was that rare american in the ninety s. Good enough to play in europe. He played for pottuvil in syria. In italy like that pronunciation will last played for four different. Mls teams the last of which was the galaxy and he later ran that team was instrumental in signing david beckham last has been a soccer broadcaster and has been critical in that sense. He's like brandel chamblee the golf champ year or so ago laleh derisively referred to christian pulisic as wonderboy well. Wonderboy just became the first american to win. A champions league trophy as chelsea won that title on saturday so lawless has the eat that is there needs to take a shot at pulisic. Probably pulisic had a chance a really good chance to score a goal in that game. I wish he could've turned to the camera and said let's see lawless. You know what to do happy anniversary. Derrick jeeter on this day twenty nine years ago. cheetah was selected with the sixth overall. Pick in the baseball draft by the new york yankees kalamazoo central high school. Gino batted over five hundred three straight years as a senior he was named usa. Today's high school player of the year. Houston have the first overall. Pick in drafted phil nevin fearing jeeter would insist on a bonus of at least a million dollars to four. Vote playing baseball for the university of michigan. We had a scholarship offer. All of fame pitcher how would scouted jeeter for the astros was so incensed. The astros didn't pick cheater that he quit his job. And protests craig gross was the yankees guy who scouted cheater. He told the yankees. Don't worry the jeeter would turn michigan. Gross said quote the only place. Derek jeter is going is to cooperstown. He got that right so he seems like the scouts were in agreement on jeeter and how great he would be and the astros went cheap. I guess a million dollar bonuses a lot of money back then in the early nineteen nineties was still. The scouts had it right on. Derek jeeter absolutely happy trails. Another slice of jacob degrom ziara the best pitcher in baseball. Threw six scoreless innings. Last night struck out. Eight diamondbacks lowering ziara. Oh seven one the lowest qualified starter through the end of may. Since chris short had sixty four for the phillies fifty seven years ago to grandma's allowed just four earned runs in fifty one innings while fanning eighty two. That's fourteen point. Five strikeouts per nine innings. The most in baseball to grant through seventy pitches last night. The first ten were all at least a hundred miles an hours. He didn't allow a hit from the fifth to graham one for three at the plate. He's betting four fifty two season is opponents batting one twenty nine not to put too fine a point on it but degrom has ford four runs as a batter and again given up. Only four runs as a pitcher. I'm going to go. Oh man question on you. Does this remind you in any way. Because you were there for some of this stuff of steve carlton that year. He was on that great run and he was unhittable. Do you make any comparison there. Yeah carlton colfax gibson but degrom is utterly sensational at the moment one update joel embiid is reportedly doubtful for game five. He will be evaluated further tomorrow. And let's go to the big finish if we could. Let's do it damian. lillard setup. Tonight's game five against the nuggets quote. This is the game right here. Your thoughts i told you the game. Fives are often the detail of a series and they did not have a great game at all in game four. I think he's poised to have won. Tonight orioles lost fourteen in a row along. I ninety five once we explain that. Yeah well i just want to say to the orioles. Michael wilbon hates. You would have relegated if he could seven somewhat memphis cardinals as jack cloudy left last night. Start woodside tightness. Is that a big deal. Struck out nine dodgers through five yet. He wanted to have it checked out. We don't know if it's a big deal yet. The blue jays officially opened in buffalo today less than a hundred miles from home. You excited yeah. It's so much closer than florida where they were. That's a good move. Last one with the nets eliminate the celtics tonight in brooklyn. Kyrie's going to have. I mean he just is i mean and they're going to help him get forty and eliminate the celtics yes. We're out of time. We'll try and do better the next time. And i'm tony kornheiser. I'm mike wilpon. Same time tomorrow knuckleheads. You'll get the pti podcast on the espn app or apple. Podcasts shut off the thai lou. Who never gets enough credit. And now. Here's what's the team. Coco second net yesterday shop credit with no fees or minimums on checking and savings accounts banking with capital. One is like the easiest decision in the history of decisions kinda like choosing to listen to another episode of your favorite podcast and with our top rated app you can deposit checks and transfer money anytime anywhere making capital one and even easier decision. That's banking reimagined. What's in your wallet. 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"The Dan Le Batard Woodstock. Gotcha podcast is brought to you by capital on capitol. One is reimagining banking offering accounts with no fees or minimums that can be opened in five minutes, Capital, One. What's in your wallet Capital One and a member FDIC? This is the Dan lebatardshow with stugatz podcasts. In two and a half hours a El Hacen. We'll take a nother run on television on ESPN news at the American ninja warrior course, his first attempt was such a failure that it is the most viewed clip in the history of American ninja warrior. So mean Alhassan twelve thirty ESPN news. You will catch him trying again to get revenge on the American ninja course. But we begin in the obvious place. Mike, I don't know if I'm being fooled by the internet here. But I hope I'm not. And if I am good job because the internet is sending us funny stories. Washington, FOX thirty two news. A man who shot himself in the peanuts was also found to be hiding marijuana in his buttocks. According to a report Cameron Jeffrey Wilson twenty-seven was carrying a gun in his front pocket on April fifth in Washington state, when the firearm accidentally discharged, the one Naci world news report, the bullet, pierced Wilson's peanuts, and then went into his thought upon arriving at the hospital. A doctor was operating on the gunshot wound when a balloon of marijuana slipped out of wilt. Slipped out of Wilson's Amos court records show police arrived at the hospital in search Wilson's car where they also found a bag of meth. The man's troubles did not end there though as Wilson, who is a convicted, felon was being processed in the county jail. He was strip searched and another balloon of marijuana came out of his anus. According to the Wenatchee world news, all of which I'm reading my just to get to the Editor's Note, because they had to write a correction at the end of that story, which was this story initially reported the man accidentally shot himself in the peanuts. He actually accidentally shot himself in the testicles. It's an important clarification really is. I was wondering about that. What an amazing correction Mike come on. You send me that story. What are the chances, have you ever had a bad has any have anyone in our audience headed day that just kept getting worse? Cord like that. Although I am confused. Why decided to conceal the marijuana instead of the meth the math was just out in the open his car? What was it his car? The meth was in his car. Yeah. But he wasn't bringing them at through. But the balloons were for the we'd just if you were just going by jail time. So skip Bayless continues to come after Colli Leonard, because skip Bayless is a Spurs fan and the one angle that you almost can't say anything bad about choir right now unless you revisit the history. Where'd you might have had reason to distrust these Spurs given the quotes coming from his uncle where his uncles talking about? They thought he complained he was telling him they couldn't, and they weren't believing him and the trust fractured. Like, that's how what happened that because Leonard that didn't even make any sense that he would have that falling out with the Spurs. If quiet Leonard is telling you can't plight. You can't tell how much that dude cares. Can you know you cannot doubt how much he cares? It is a strange story if he's telling you that he can't play then he can't play. It's just so strange. Because that organization, usually doesn't bought these types of things. Why can't you doubt how much he cares on us? What do you know why? No. But what I do know reported by the people who know far more than us Lee Jenkins got a profile of quite Kawhi Leonard that he parlayed into a clippers front office job, which is he cares about basketball and almost nothing else? He cares about working and almost nothing else. He's still wandering around with a with a you know, one of these backpacks with the basketball in it just looking for a game wherever he can go. And so when you read that stuff about him, I, there are many things it didn't make sense to me. Right. And what happened is most people thought it was quiet, Leonard doing the Anthony Davis thing. And they just sided with a organization that had credibility period, and it seems in retrospect, that they shouldn't have because this is healthy quiet Leonard. And if he's telling you that he wasn't healthy if he's telling you and you're not gonna believe it, then who are you going to believe on that front? Well, he's on telling me anything, it's still is on coal. So I'm so confused at, at all of this, what are we going to? What are you going to do with, like when basketball? So seemingly winning is the most. Important thing, too quiet Leonard. He left a winning organization. Let's say he wins the title in Toronto. That'd be amazing. What are you going to do when he leaves? It'd be amazing. If all of a sudden, he went, the title comes a bigger free agent than Kevin Durant. Well, he's total. He's redeemed himself. I mean he's carried Toronto the final. Okay. Yeah. But you still wonder what happened there would say, Tonio. I mean, maybe there's something to him quitting on that organization for whatever reason I ask people upset I mean for me, I wipe the slate clean. I think what he's done makes him as you say. I he's not Kevin Durant. And among players who might change seems he's not Anthony Davis, but right after that, to me, Leonard now is on that elite here over media will help them. They'll continue to build a narrative because he won't help them build any sort of narrative because he simply won't talk. So if he just goes Toronto, on a one year loan brings Canada, a championship and decides to leave we're just going to write the story for the let's, let's think about this for a second, because Cody believes that this is the. First NBA finals ever believes that the warriors are going to smoke. The raptors I would say that, while the, the warriors are an enormous favorite and should be the way it would fall apart is sort of the way it fell apart for Milwaukee, where you realize wait a minute. They swept Detroit that didn't matter. Oh that Boston team wasn't very good. Boom. They run into an equal. They're done. And the warriors have not been tested in any reasonable way by a team that can actually beat them because of how the, the rockets were worse this year than they've been all year. But if the warriors were to lose to guts in the history of basketball, not only would it go down as perhaps the biggest upset in the sports history outside of Detroit, taking out, Shaq and Kobe, it would have to happen this way where the warriors struggled all season and someone emerges, Jordan, someone emerges, Leonard emerges what he's done so far. He's made Joel Embiid cry. He's exposed Jaanus. We didn't even know needed more to his game. We thought his game might have been limited, but we didn't know he went, he's the only guy who's gone into the playoffs. We know how good you are. We know how good you are. You're great. Oh, no. We didn't know how good you were right? It's almost like we forgot how good he was because he was playing like this before the injury and say that Tonio. He really was. But I'm intrigued by this finals because you have a guy going up against a super team. It's, it's Ken. Michael Jordan, take down a super team basically, by himself that's going to be interested. You also have the Kevin Durant storyline. And this is a series that there are absolutely gonna miss Kevin Durant. And he's not going to be playing in game one because historically Steph curry plays Toronto better than any team. But now they're going to put Hawaii on them without Kevin Durant on the floor, and how's that going to go for a guy that historically struggled in the NBA final, Golden State is just a different team altogether. Arden me are go sit outside for a couple of minutes. Oh, trouble. Lameta giving your clear your throat the other direction because you've been a disaster. Okay. I covered him phlegm. So we're not gonna do it. Kawhi leonard. Stu gods? Yes. Is he going if he wins the title, does he become more coveted free agent and Kevin Durant, because, oh gosh, these younger because he's younger if he beat this team to win a title. I'm not certain. He should be more coveted free agent. But he probably will become a more coveted thing. That is breathtaking to me, is what he did defensively to Jaanus. I've not seen. Nobody can slow Janas. He's literally, the only person in the world that can slow Jaanus. There's not another defender that can do it. I mean, what do you do if he wins this title Kawai, he'll have to championship rings, Kevin Durant has none? I mean Kawai Leonard is. Yeah, I guess, yeah, he'll be the prized free agent here coming up in July. What an exciting final. I am super excited for this. You're not what I can't believe Greg, Cody, not excited for what I can't believe, because, honestly, this sport is our most predictable sport. And it qualifies as a huge upset that the to beat the one and now. It's one against two from both conferences. But the part that is amazing to me, Stu gods. And is a legitimate surprise is you remember where the raptors were four games ago as they headed into overtime looking like they were blowing a game. They were going to be down three. Oh. And all of this was going to be about Jaanus. It wasn't going to be about coli Leonard. In fact, it was gonna be about honest so much that we aren't going to even notice that Jaanus was exposed if that ball bounces differently in game three. That's how quickly things change. Oh man. If you're looking at odds makers no matter who wins the championship it would seem as though they're still losing their best player considering what's favored at turns their next team, this is a fascinating final. It's that what's happened with the raptors is interesting just because they were done. They were done. They they're sitting there going into overtime Stu aunt, and he's played fifty minutes. He's hurt. He's clearly tired any takes the series from them in game three by winning and overtime where they'd gone down three like they should have gone down oath three given how they played at the end of the game. Right. We wouldn't be talking about any of this stuff. Instead Canada's going crazy. And Drake's gotta be there that's going to be a great final who's getting his Drake, annoying, everybody or just some of the people he's a great wrestling. He'll I think so. He's annoying pretty much everybody outside of his country. But are you annoyed by it? Or are you enjoying it? I'm kind of enjoying it. I liked what he's kiss gray. Be allowed to. Do that. This is bizarre on every level and thoroughly enjoyable juicy smashmouth come after him. There are a band from Oakland, they call them. Glorified mascot. Smashmouth when after Bryce Harper to very weird because they were getting on him about his contract, and then someone made the point on Twitter's like, hey, did you tell all sorts of go out and get paid? But look at bright to twenty now, so don't mess with smashmouth donlevatar three acres is the place to be. Live is life foam me to God's, I just enjoy pain house view, not just bailed. This is our show with this Stu gods on ESPN radio. Ghirma put it on the poll plays at lebatardshow, Instagram and Twitter do crack knuckles. 'cause arthritis stugatz people are knocking on him via Twitter. He really enjoyed himself this weekend at the lacrosse, women's final four, we will get to that in a second. But before we do. So somebody is sending in sound from stugatz. This was a couple of years ago, the people like to play sound send sound that reminds to gods of things that he has said that he is taken, no inventory of so here is Stu got a couple of years ago if he goes to Cleveland and he plays one second of one game and a calf uniform. I will make sure that he never gets a statue. And Jersey's never retired in the arena. I'll make sure of it. I said the he said that of Dwayne. Wade, one more time just for this was before, of course, Dwayne Wade ended up in Cleveland. But this is Stu gods with a totally empty threat. If he goes to Cleveland and he plays one second of one game and a calf uniform. I will make sure that he never gets a statue. And Jersey's never retired in the arena. I'll make sure of it now he did that he played in Cleveland, and I could tell everyone right now as of today, I have done nothing on the statue front nor nor will you nor can you your voice was a lot here several years ago if he goes to Cleveland and he plays one second of one game and a calf uniform. I will make sure that he never gets a statue. And at Jersey's never retired in the arena, they'll make sure it. Got this person writes, in via Twitter, given his attire did stugatz think the women's lacrosse final on ESPN news was at a barbecue. Guys support Suu God's because I know he's been doing this a couple of times this season leading up to the final four. I must be honest. The first time I've watched you call the cross was for the women's final people really liked it, it was really enjoyable to is quite good because I'm entering it as you're not knowing anything about women's across. I thought he was insightful. He had the same. Verbal tics drive me crazy as a producer here. But he was very comfortable and there was a loads of things to make fun of him about. Yes. Including my attire, I was very relaxed. I enjoyed that, that was as fun as anything, I've done in this business, and I was confident because I just knew I had knowledge of the game at fact, I would say, I know more about women's lacrosse at this point in my life than I do about any sport, including the NBA the NFL like I just do because I'm coaching it because my daughter's into it. And so I was very confident headed into that booth. Hence, the t shirt and sunglasses. You turned me onto the sport. I had a really good time watching these first. The games were ex a lot. People are a lot of people. Enjoy great games commentated by a very casual looking Stu gods. Being very much through God's lest you not know what that stugatz is. I will let you know that Stu gods has been clamoring for eight years for a full week on highly questionable that he'd be more respected with his appearances given a week instead of just sitting in an emergency on April Fools day as best seventh alternate. And after telling me on Monday that he wanted us to tape, it a different time, because they didn't realize that it was Memorial Day that we weren't doing radio that was for you. Of course. Yes, he was doing that for me. I added bonus. He's stealing is his jacket. He's not wearing any of his old clothes on television. They fit me. So nice yesterday, he's the first host ever in eight years to arrive late while my father, and I are sitting at the table. I host in eight years to do it. I mean, listen, the traffic down here, Memorial Day insane. I mean, I had no idea that, that many people flocked down here for memorial. Day week at especially on that Monday. So I was just I was sailing along and then it's a half hour. Once I got off the causeway here, which usually takes me three minutes again here. It's thirty minutes just to get from the causeway to the clevelander. Listen, if you want the ratings bump that comes with me on highly questionable. You'll just add to put up with whatever you have to put up with. I'm gonna be late. I might wear a t shirt there might be sunglasses. I might not have all the information, but what you're going to have the highest rated week in the history of highly questionable, so highly questionable everyday this week's to God's will be performing four thirty eastern before we get into the ripping of Jaanus for leaving a press conference early because he was emotional and hurt and wounded. Billy is all excited because ladies and gentlemen, go head. Billy go had the orange yours Billy now Billy's excited. And he's excited for the right reasons. This is good. I hope that I'm going to say the wrong thing and not disappoint you here. But guys is about. Tonight. What's happening tonight? You said go ahead. All right. Tonight. Guys, seven PM ESPN sportscenter special NBA finals preview, live from L, A, hosted by Stephen a Smith. Michael wilpon, Doc Rivers. And Magic Johnson. Team. Magic getting us ready for Thursday night on Tuesday night. Hey, I can his wheelhouse. What do you think gonna say magic four wins hasn't? He used it all up. Whatever magic whatever insights. Magic has hasn't. He just used them all up and hasn't Stephen written in those comments to ratings gold and special on Tuesday night. Why are we using magic? Why? But he's over Johnson. That's the only reason, but he's over Magic Johnson. So that's why we're doing it. That's why he gets every job that he gets is it because he's so horse. Is it because he's so good at broadcast. Magic Johnson did give us a fountain of content alas. I'm he was on these airwaves. So maybe we ride this one out for a little bit while you're going to want to watch it tonight. Just because they're going to have to talk about the Baxter home story that is the reason that no free agents would want to go to Los Angeles. If you're looking at what's happening behind the scenes have you guys seen what the Caesar's odds are now for Kawhi Leonard, and it's free agency destinations. No, tell me the overwhelming favourite, according to the betting money is the clippers at minus two hundred where Lee Jenkins is a part of the front office. Lee Jenkins, the only person to crack Leonard. And really, he just told us that he walks around with a backpack with the basketball in it, and which car he drives the second team is not the Knicks. The. Second favourite such that it is plus one twenty five is the raptors the Knicks occupy space with the warriors with the warrior. Oh, because he rant leaves he can replace them again. Right. But he doesn't do that because he wins championships on his own. So the, the Knicks are plus two eighty the warriors are plus three twenty but here's the damning thing right here. The Lakers are plus nine hundred. There's a free agent available. The Lakers have always been able to get that free agent Lakers, are plus nine hundred and the clippers the laughing stock of that city for decades, the clippers the second organization that city that will never surpass the Lakers, according to anyone who's been around basketball. But why would why wanna go to the Lakers at this point over the clippers? I'm just telling you how amazing it is. That, that's where we've arrived that the Lakers have been so fundamentally mismanaged that the clippers minus two. Hundred and the Lakers are plus nine hundred. Right. It's crazy. I know you said, historically, the Lakers have always been able to get the free agent, and I understand that they just got LeBron James who arguably the best player in the world, but recent history, they can't even get the second meeting with Marcus Aldridge. They get laughed out of rooms and Kobe Bryant comes in meetings, and screws everything up, historically, recent history suggests they never get them. Well, it's such a buddy, buddy league now my question is does LeBron have a great relationship or any relationship with Leonard, that's the quality of your co? Why, why would you wanna go if you don't like the media to begin with? Why would you want to go to that media circus in L A with LeBron James, and you're doing pretty good without LeBron? Right. If you don't need them. Lebron couldn't do it on his own. He needed me on the hero cash. More of the Dan labor. Dr show with the stugatz, ten to one eastern on ESPN radio and ESPN news. Sugata your spring is finally here. 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And if you're looking for more ways to save your local gyco agent could help with more than just your auto insurance stopped by give them a call today. They're here to help. We will get to the funniest thing from the sports weekend in just a moment. But first, there have been very few athletes treated as poorly by a region as Boston treated Bill Buckner, so that with his passing yesterday, people revisited, what a great baseball player. He was because some of the numbers are staggering never had a three strikeout game, even Tony Gwynn, had one of those never once a three strikeout game almost three thousand career hits, but is remembered for his worst public baseball moment. Yeah, it's interesting. He was it was such a good player. Such a solid professional baseball hitter right up until he made maybe one of the biggest mistakes in baseball history. And that's what people remember most that I think people were objecting. As the way. Not, not even his own city did anything to sue the ham. He you know, eat years later, many years later, he would come to Fenway park and the time had healed it. But how many years after that was eighty six ninety six it was, like twenty two years later or is that too, they wanna world, sir? They basically Bill Buckner when he was quoted when he did interviews would say, you know, I can't live there. I can't be there that, that city basically has wrecked my life. Yeah. I do think it's worth recalling that his famous infamous error happened in game six you know they still had game seven to win it and didn't vote context is totally irrelevant. We could sit there. All the was bad moves in that game context doesn't matter history, remembers his name for one thing, it was a game seven with Roger Clemens on the mound for the Red Sox. Xactly. What history doesn't remember those details? History goes to the winners. Like, that's not the way that one works, not the context, you could. You're right brother, the context on all of this. It deserves to be shouted, but it takes someone death for us to apply that kind of nuance only because now a whole lot of people should feel guilty about how they treated that, man. No through God. I mean I listen, I don't know. I think people should feel badly about yesterday. And after we learned that he passed away that was the first place that we were going. I think I think a lot of what you felt yesterday from American sports fans was shame and guilt about that man died, and we treated him over a human mistake, right? We raced his entire two decade career. And I understand that. I'm just saying in the moment eighty six game six fans being upset with him after they had won a World Series since nineteen eighteen and we're trying to erase that drought and he made a colossal mistake. I mean I do understand fans and I understand why they would be upset with Bill Buckner two years. Even number well until they wanna World Series, even knowing that he was a great hitter in a great player for that team. I do understand why so ruin his life enough for him to not be welcome in that city enough for him to have to move. I mean perhaps that's a bit too far probably is too far for. I mean it's too far but I mean, I kinda get in the moment. Why Red Sox fans would be upset with him doing that. Or why Orlando Magic fans will be upset with Nick Anderson. For missing a couple of big rose God's, but when your empathy is so lacking that a human error makes you punish someone for twenty two years. Right. As a city Boston should feel great shame and guilt about what they did to him. But they forgave eventually, which is not know. It was very nice of them to finally forgive him after winning now. Very early in my career, I was trained in how to write obituaries. I love the idea that forgiveness was only readily available. Well now we got. Title. So it's okay. That was my favorite of the takes after they won the championship. Bronson Arroyo became celebrities, right? Bitch worries. The first question you ask is what was this person most known for and, like, like it or not Bill Buckner was most known for that mistake. The analogy is Scott Norwood in the Buffalo Bills, placekicker costing them a Super Bowl offload entreat him that way. Maybe in the moment they did. But buffalo run him out of the city. Buffalo wasn't trying to erase them sort of drought where this is like one of those legendary. Ain't never won anything time. We all know is the Red Sox. That was the team gone the longest without winning a champion. This is sports though. Don't Omar Vizquel and Jose Mesa? Still hate each other over nineteen ninety seven World Series where mess with throw at Omar Vizquel, every single time he faced him just because of things. He said about him afterwards like this sports. This is what you do. Right. Exactly. There was an overreaction yesterday to the overreaction of daring to mention this famous error in writing about his life. I mean, it's fine to, to put that in context to say man, this guy had a great career twenty two year major league career, but it's not nothing that he's most known for that one mistake to put that in the second paragraph of vizo bitch. I don't think is illegitimate. Just too late on the forgiveness is what I would say just much too late long. He went into old age like, you know, Larry David sort of tried to resurrect the softer side. And if you read quotes from Bill Buckner about those two decades what they felt like to him. It's dark man his his family, worried for him by because he wasn't. He had he was a fugitive from Boston. But eventually, they forgave. I mean that, that never done them after they won the World Series right after they won the world. He was fed b before his late life dementia hit in. He was certainly aware that he ultimately was forgiven by Boston, which is I'm grateful that he had that at least some telling me to be a human Dan sports. I wanna boo them. They make a mistake. Don't make them. Stay. I wanna hold things against them forever. Let me do you do. Okay. You can forgive for all of us. Okay. All right. You guys are all entitled to twenty two years of burying got wanna hate the official that through the flag against Miami. Again, stayed on gonna hate him forever. And you can't change that if you want to go ahead and not hate him. You're fully entitled and make up for my are you sure though because I feel like in Boston once one person hates all of them after eight. Are you sure about that? Like all like you think that, that's something that, that you're positive about. I don't even want to say to reporters name, but. Oh, I'm sorry. Now policy is to me. He had over twenty seven hundred hates and had a career to ninety average. I'm wondering how great would he would he have had to been where that was it? The first they think about what it's Bill Buckner, whatever you thirty five hundred five. Really mazed it. I think the nature of the mistake was so large, that there is no forgiving. It there is no career that would have arrived at Boston, forgiving denying us title until many years later when they did happen upon forgiveness once they won the title. Yeah. I think maybe hall of fame might have trumped the error fame career. Maybe it's the same thing with Bartman, though, like didn't they try to get them back after they won the World Series? They tried to give him a ring, and he's like nab good. Like they didn't wait a good thing to Bartman. They did do it to Bartman. And he's no longer someone. Who's in the public eye? He's never. He's still the getting sports. No one's talked to that dude about how Chicago ruined his life, you won't. You won't do interviews because of how scarring, the whole thing was, but it took a championship for them to forgive him. But did they they wanted to give him a ring? I'm good. I don't want to be seen there. Are you going to have this exact same segment when the time comes at he passes away, and his Dan reveal once again, make it about him? Break out the red panties. We arranged baby. That was amazing to see reveal eulogize Bill Buckner by saying, I'm sorry, that I want my one championship at the expense of your pain. We were all thinking that, you know what Mike I gotta be honest, though, that was predictable, or less predictable than what I thought we were going to get which is Bill Buckner got two million dollars in endorsement before his death with a bowl sold for. Donlevatar thread, Cody is married to a Saint of a woman and this morning. She finally shouted shut up at Greg Cody, and the reason she shouted shut up this respectfully, Greg, Cody is because he would not stop singing kung FU fighting's to guts. I wasn't a kitchen making coffee and it's just, you know, soon gets in your head, and you gotta let it out, and I only know like everybody was kung FU hey, is a fast? Eddie. Late. And after ten renditions of that at first the volume on the TV went up a little bit. And then he's like, would you shut up? I'm trying to listen to this. How did he get into your head? Do you remember? I don't know. It just appeared magical. It just appeared in my hand. I had to let it up. VC's donlevatar show with his two guys on ESPN radio. Greg cody's back in my day is coming at you in a couple of minutes in this segment after stugatz begins to read poorly that you Dan. ESPN radio is presented by progressive insurance. Guests on the Dan Le Batard show up here via the shell Pennzoil performance line. Here's your sports center update. 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For all the latest headlines and information tune into sports center on ESPN radio all throughout the day. Here. They come. Mistakes. Hear my ad-lib was here. It comes the mistakes. Up on first take right now Stephen a Smith is going to be doing a finals preview. Game tonight. Seven PM with Doc Rivers, and Magic Johnson. And Michael wilpon. What are you laughing about year MO have a lot going on in my head right now? I'm so excited about that. Also now we're talking about. I kind of believe Palinka on this. Kobe story. Yeah. I believe it. So the story is that he arranged a dinner with heath ledger in Kobe Bryant. Right. And everybody's saying, well the dark Knight came out, and he ledger. Died six months before it. Right. But Kobe's a powerful guy it's very possible that Kobe couldn't have gotten. Invent screening of it before he went to Madison Square Garden. And he saw it before heath ledger died. So I started looking it up. And I see that Kobe Bryant played against the Knicks in Madison Square Garden on December twenty third, right? And he's leisure died in January. So it's possible that he either saw a preview of it. He got a screener or in advance or he just. Read about it, and the facts were somewhat jumbled a little bit when telling the story. But I kind of believe that this happened, even though everyone else in the world is saying, no, it didn't happen. It's impossible because it's such like there's people involved with actual names, and these are things that could be verified. So it'd be so. Ballsy if you can say that of him to just totally make that up and no one would ever catch him on it. It has to have. It's an agent and agent would they do that all the time? I believe. Okay, very good can plant your flag over there, you go ahead and write that out. See where I'd takes you to glory and championships. I'm sure just ride plunk into the sky like a chariot made of hope. So Jeanie Buss. What they're asking on first take is has Jeanie Buss ruined the Lakers and what's funny about that. If you think she's bad. Get a load of the boys like. Her father is a notorious womanizer for all time gave her the power because he knew those boys. And she was the most competent of anything. That was happening there, boys. Got I crack though, there was like some language in the wheel, like if they screwed it up after a couple of years, Jeanie gets it. And they did. So genie. Got it one of the hour asking, she's screw, you know, and they all are all of them are doing a great job of appearing incompetent where you it would appear right now. Put it on the poll game show is Kurt Rambis his wife running the Lakers, because the Lakers only gravitate to people who were in that very small bubble of the Lakers, which is how you come to think that Magic Johnson would be good for that position that what about Magic Johnson? Gives you the idea that he would be visionary about the evolution of basketball. Nothing just as play. Yeah. How did they let Jerry West getaway? That's my question. And I'm have serious. He's in the family. A lot of people are writing in that Greg, Cody got it wrong on Roger Clemens starting game seven of the Bill Buckner World Series. It was Bruce Hurst. I actually got that wrong, Greg confirm what I said. So we both got I thought you said it, but I, I did think it was I thought it was the rocket sorry about the time now for Greg cody's back in my day. Now it is time to take it treat them memory lane. Here's your guy Rick could he with back in my day? He drugs. I have never understood the popularity of food trucks. And I'm glad that popularity is waning. It may not actually be weighing in which case, my apocryphal comment, Mike hopefully serve as an instigator of that decline. Food trucks, aren't even an original idea. The original food trucks of the small silver cited vehicles that roll up to construction sites around lunchtime. Now these food trucks serve a utilitarian purpose. In might be the unsung grand marshal if ever, we have a parade of vehicles, the food truck, we think of now is the large lumbering, elaborately painted rolling monstrosity typically offering specific fare, such as tacos MAC and cheese, or barbecue, like, yachts, and other showy boats these food trucks tend to have punny or other, too clever names, a park near my house has food truck Tuesday, and we ventured there once for dinner abroad, circle of some fifteen or twenty trucks surrounding us, like a nineteenth century circle of Ticonderoga wagons in the wild west, I discovered three things about food trucks. They aren't fast. They aren't cheap and the food is closer to okay, then memorable, they weren't even convenient in an age when I can get anything. From any restaurant delivered directly to my door. I'm supposed to use an apt to track down a wandering truck. Yeah. I don't think so bud the other thing about food trucks is I don't know who slinging my hash. I also respect. It somebody who only bought a food, truck, because he couldn't swing a Bank loan to buy an actual restaurant. And now he's an embittered folk getting a bunch of extraneous ingredients the MAC and cheese charging, twelve bucks or it, and taking too long to hand it to me through a window as I stand in an open field with a plastic four rounded by exhaust fumes food, trucks, make about as much sense. As as me driving to the curb of a busy intersection at noon popping, the trunk of my car, and purporting to create gourmet fare in pup kitchen, sit next to my Gulf me, the silver panels food truck at the construction site. Hey, here's two bucks. Tossed me a cellophane rather triangle of sandwich and begun with you. I'm Greg Cody, and that's how it was back in my day. Put it on the pole, Guillermo at lebatardshow. How do you feel about food trucks for or against? Sometimes it just takes a couple of words like I'm wondering where he's going about laughing. Too hard exhaust fumes. Yeah. They want it is funny. That's, that's what I didn't think there were many people, are you? Okay, greg. How many times are you going to clear your throat into the microphone? We demand demand. All right. I mean, oh, hats is at twelve thirty eastern. We are fifty minutes away from him trying to tackle again, the American injure warrior, course eleventh season of American ninja warrior premieres tomorrow, eight to ten on NBC and again fifty minutes from now. I mean, oh, has an on ESPN news will take another crack after failing miserably, and it's the most viewed clip in the history of American engine warrior returns to the source of his shame Cashmore of our show with stugatz, ten to one eastern on ESPN radio and ESPN news. If you want to talk to Ron McGill, the telephone number is seven, eight six four five six four eight three seven for all your animal questions. Billy, you're on with Ron McGill. Go ahead. What do you have for him? Mcgill fight to the death. No wild line for civil back, Rolla wins, and walk. It's going to be the lion because again, we brought the previous in his show, the lion is a carnivore kills to feed the silverback gorilla is an urban or really a gentle, giant it can be aggressive when it's defending against other guerrillas, protecting the troop, but it is not a killer per se. So when you have an animal that has not just the big canines, and the bite strength, but also massive claws and massive pasta. The lion as the killer is gonna I'm gonna have to give the lime each run. I was driving down kindle drive yesterday, and I almost hit a turtle that was trying the cross KENDALL drive. I swerved out of the way in the car behind me. Stop to pick it up and move it to the the sidewalk. I was wondering if a sign on XP rain over the center of turtle shell. What would that do to the turtle, would it do to the car? Oh, god. The turtle would die. The car would probably go on. I'm sorry to say. Laughing about the shell obviously protects a turtle. Are you telling me the turtle shell couldn't take the weight of Saudi big the term being the shell to endure a car? There isn't a turtle big enough for the shell to endure car. You know, you have to talk like a Galapagos tortoise in the car would never be able to go over Galapagos tortoise have to hit broadside the shell understand what his show is shell is actually modified ribs of the turtle. So they, they're modified ribs that grow and create that shell any outside. But just like you can break your ribs, you can break the turtle shell, you know, you in the while you see something like Jaguars Jaguars it will bite through any turtles alligators will bright through a turtle shell. So, you know, an automobile driving over one though, I don't like to think of the scenario. Thank you for putting that vision in my mind. Like the automobile wins, you're saying the turtle shell a little bit overrated. Oh my God. Next question. So how much weight can turtles show hold like I've seen pictures of people sitting on turtles, but they're not because it's got a lot of pressure k-. Okay. Okay. Yes. Who am I speaking to right now? Billy before Chris before that it was okay. Okay. Billy, Billy, Billy, when you see someone sitting on a turtle. It's usually someone what does the human being away, Billy average. Yeah. It depends on the person. I'd say, okay. Automobile way Billy, I'm not trying to get you angry. I'm just asking. It's a it's a pressure thing. Billy, it's a pressure thing. Yes. It's you know, it's like you know if I hit you with a feather is that going to hurt as much as if I hit you with a baseball bat. It's, it's, it's basically a principle of physics the heavier the object. Yes, the more damaging it's going to be the shell why I don't wanna be the one who kind of tests were that limit is. But generally speaking, if an automobile runs over a turtle the turtle loses, and people will sit on turtles, you'll see them on big a lot because it's just because, you know, Galapagos tortoises mount each other all the time. That's how they reproduce. So their shell is built to sustain the weight of another Galapagos tortoise, which can be as much as five hundred pounds. So generally speaking, most humans are gonna way less than five hundred pounds. So a human sitting on tour is not going to damage that a lot because tortoise, assuming as an adult tortoise one more. Turtle question. How, how long do you think you would take? This is the way Ron. Okay. I think both lanes. Of traffic on KENDALL driver, both five going each direction, five lanes. How long would it take this turtle the cross all ten lanes? Okay, generally speaking, I don't know what kind of turtle it was. It was probably a slider. These animals are coming out now to find land to nest on it was a medium size. I would say like medium pizzas size turtle. Okay. It's like a big dinner plate. Yes. Okay. A turtle like that going at, you know, warp speed for turtle is gonna get across those ten lanes in about. Four to five minutes. One more question relates love of God ROY has it. You're could be talking ROY now. Hey, Ron toy what animal would survive getting hit by a car? What animal with survive, a lot of animals survive getting hit by cars. I've seen, you know, dear survive seen moose survive seeing bison survive. Sometimes they suffer some pretty bad injuries, but they survived the incident, sometimes more so than the automobile, I've seen some automobiles get significantly damaged by having collisions with large mammals generally speaking. But, you know, most mammals hit by a moving vehicle are gonna lose that battle run in, in reading that the African nation of Botswana, just listed its ban on elephant hunting. It made me wonder why isn't there and shouldn't there be an international wildlife governing body to regulate such things, you know, that would be an ideal scenario, Cody, but the bottom line is governments are very protective of their own natural resources, and they don't want any other government telling them what to do. It's been an issue sometimes with wailing and the Japanese and open waters in the ocean. I think the only place it's been successful really and, and establishing a treaty that basically protects all wildlife. From protects the word. The, the land itself is Antarctica Antarctica by treaty of over fifty nations is a land of peace and of science there can be no war there. You cannot kill any animals there. You cannot do any hunting there. You cannot harvest any natural resources there. It is a land of peace and science and Antarctica is the only place. I know of on the face of the planet that has that Irvine. You're on with Ron McGill zoo Miami. Go ahead urban. All right. Mcgill enough of those silly questions, what animal closely resembles in features and characteristics that awful, dreadful backstabbing, rob. Pelinka gamma put it on the poll, please. At lebatardshow. Are we still making Irvine's, Jay van you're on with Ron McGill of zoo Miami? Go ahead. Jason. Hi Ron love the so two questions. The first is any animals crack their backs on purpose pleasure. And also my second question is, what is your biggest pet peeve about pets? All right, animals. I, I, I don't know if it's the civically cracking, they're back. But I certainly see animals stretch in different ways at obviously brings them some sort of sort of relief and pleasure. And a lot of it, sometimes looks like they're cracking their back with, you know, I actually seen primates take their hands and twist their head and twist their neck. I've seen lions of course, stretching grab a tree and stretch back so animals do stretch. And I, I would assume it would be some of the similar cracking back. My biggest pet peeve about pets is people who have who have pets, as conversation pieces and not as companions people who have pets to say, I've got this, even though it's not a companion. It's not showing any kind of fiction, it's an animal is just basically an ornaments for that person's conversation. That's my biggest pet peeve. You know that the pet of the month club run. It's Mike again another turtle question. You blew my mind when he told me the shell was an extension of the ribcage because I always assumed it was an extension of the back. Which leads to this question, does the turtle have spine and Kenneth crack its own back? Turtle cannot crack its own back. It does have a spine spine is actually fused to the top center of the shell and out of the spine, is where those ribs come just like on our bodies and those ribs, actually fused together to form the shell itself, but the spine is fused to the top of the show of the turtle. It is not something floating in the center, and he's actually fuse to the top of the show, the turtle run the other day in a public parking lot. I see a duck in one of its babies look like a juvenile offspring. Just the two of them in a parking lot doomed. What is someone to do? Like I what do you do to save? These two ducks in. That's okay. Well, those, those were probably not doomed because, in fact, they're in a parking lot. That, that, that, that probably is one of the reasons why those two are in the parking lot because no duck has only one duckling. She probably had a lot of other ducklings, and those other ducklings were probably predated on by something that maybe was not found in the parking lot like a hawk or a cat or something like that. And sometimes these ducks learn to find safety in, in places with a lot of humans were other animals won't come in and get their, their ducklings. Plus, you have those people who love to see ducks and give them food, give them bread, parking lots are, you know, notorious for people feeding birds feeding ducks animals like that in the parking lot. So that duck probably adapted to say, hey, listen, if you want to be the last one alive in our little clutch. Follow me into the parking lot. There's hope we get some bread and hope these cars, and people keep the cats and hawks away. So they're safer and a parking. You're the one on the radio seeing dune where there's only a buffet buffet. What is the video that you have for us this week run? Okay. Let me get this on here on okay? All right. We have a oh, wait a minute. Oh, what is this is their hawks, like it's a night vision thing. And there seems like to in. Just came in and took him. Oh my God. It was. It was came out of nowhere. Oh, jeez. Was incredible video on. It's gonna get little hawks on the little edge there in the necessary nighttime all of a sudden out of the darkness ham out. Parking lot. What a bad friend that other bird is what a bad friend, look at him on confused. Third doesn't even know what happened there, Dan. One day, his partner was there, the next day gone. That's the Al the Al is like the stealth bomber you don't want outside, when you can't hear them flapping wing that specialized feathers, on the edge of their wings. That makes their flight pretty much silent. Unlike other birds, you know, you hold the chicken pox when an alpha, you can't hear it. It's like a stealth bomber out of the darkness. What a great video to them. Is from a distance coming from a distance and these birds. Stick out spent tastic. I wouldn't happen. Donlevatar. We play the game, the white wakes to God's sleaze. Switch better than you. These live at our show with his two guys on ESPN radio. Put it on the poll. You like. And do you remember and like the movie Cobra was Celestis Stallone, again, if you wanna watch on ESPN news go there now because you will see how I mean, I'll has did Paul Pierce was willing to put up ten thousand dollars if I mean, oh, has an could get through the first of the American injure warrior, obstacles and the first is pretty easy. So we will get to that in a moment on television. But I hear on only the radio and podcast and exclusive stugatz his lazy, busy weekend survey. It is time for us to share his skin notes. No, one in the media will tell you what happened. But at the my is too. Weekend observations. Brought to you by vivid seats needs to a game. Download the vivid seats at and enter promo code chips at checkout to get ten percent off your first order. Don't buy just any seep get a vivid. See. Then somehow one year removed from throwing await at someone at a gym in Boca Raton, Florida, because he thought he was working for the government at someone in the gym was trying to steal the codes. Dan, after all, that Richie incognito is back JJ watt gotten gauged, haven't confirmed, yet, but hearing, the wedding will be on August eighth. Otherwise known as eight surprise, what happened there. Surprise JJ watt didn't get engaged on national TV Boston College university of North Carolina women's lacrosse, national semi-final on Friday night. The best women's lacrosse game of all time me calling that game and say expect anyone. But BC attacker, SAMA Puzo to take the final shot. Then Sam Puzo not only taking the final shot, but taking it scoring and ending the game me the stugatz strong in you. When we talked greatest coaches in the history of sports university of Maryland's women's lacrosse coach, Kathy Reese is never mentioned. She should be check the resident okay very good. Check the resume. All right. Check it out. Out. Put it on the poll. Is that coach the best women's coach of all time, I'm talking, maybe the best coach at any sport hall, do it that way you should be in that discussion. Check the resume JJ watts getting married, wall, somehow, saving the priest by giving him CPR at the same time airing live on ABC collision, course JJ watt dancing with all the old ladies at his wedding collision, course JJ watt dancing with all the Todd's at his wedding collision course, JJ watt is just one engagement away from having more engagements than he did sex over two year period of two thousand and sixty thousand eighteen whatever. It all serious is or seriousness congrats J jet and his fiancee. It's about time. He finally helped someone get a ring. I don't even know. Weird. Kevin the, the media isn't trying to tell you apart from the warriors. The media just wants the NBA to be fun at Farragut. You say you get it. But do you Sam Puzo might be the best player in any sport? It's not. What a championship check the resume, Dan. Dan, check the reser at Mike agrees. He is a big woman's with Russ van now at 'em. Puzo might be the best of all their your observations. Okay. But I liked it. I mean I've ever seen incredible. Same Puzo Bill Buckner will never be remembered for what he should have been remembered for, which is being a to ninety hitter. With over twenty seven hundred hits come to think of it, though. How many to ninety career hitters with over twenty seven hundred hits in you actually name. Genus boss. The Greek freak more like the meek freak STAN Van Gundy, Houston Rockets. Collision course Louis Riddick said Carson once is going to win NFL MVP this season. And while I can't believe he wants there at this point, I'm buying whatever Riddick is selling Bill Buckner left us to early on the bright side, Bill. The master suite in Bill Simmons is attic awaits you joy and rest in peace. Also, I think I speak for everyone. When I say, I'm sorry, your death came with the unexpected guilt of an eight year old Darrell rebel who thanks in part to your error got his only major sports championship. It really didn't make it about him. Guys, just drug it up. Whatever the as paying Billy bean, it's not enough, but also he's overrated. What happened hope for the love of Ed, just like that. Damore derozen is no longer the most popular player in raptors history. He's now six behind Kawai Leonard. Kyle Larry Siaka Marcus oil. And Fred vanfleet history is going to look back at the top line of Martian Bergereon, pasture Drake. As the greatest top line, it Bruins history and pronounce any of their names, right? Pash trick. No more, Sean Berge Iran. You got that Laura. Patriots tight end Benjamin Watson has been suspended. The first four games her steroid use I excuse I've ever believe. Dan, you know what that means? It means nothing. And Lord knows what's going on inside the office of that. Dr Guerrero, by the way, is he a doctor? Does. He have a diploma hanging on the wall. Or is he just a guy that injects you with things met for a horse? I mean what happened speaking horses? How many needs to die at Santa Anita before we start investigating what the hell is going on there, speak at the hell. It doesn't new name. Congratulations to melt, Vernon Texas who hired are Brial to be its new high school football coach. You brought embroils and hells come in with him. Who's the weekend observations? If you are not watching on ESPN news. It would appear that I mean, oh, has and will not be getting any ten thousand dollars because he just missed the final step. He just skipped it. He jumped over it and ended up straight in the water. Again, another spectacular failure by amino hasn't. He's doing the post game interview right now. He is terrible and thinks he is good at everything. He's in good. At anything yet somehow he did better than expected. Watching here. You watch it here. Rope from inside the water just give the last step Lizzy clumsy, give what happened. Did he forget the less step what the hell happened to he, he told me that he had his eyes on the rope in with so excited about the fact that he was going to get to that he completely forgot, there was a last step? Blinded by the money. It was easy, and he's like I got this I got this, I got this next thing you know, he's in the water. We get to a funny Derek Dietrich story, I said he wasn't a major leaguer many years ago. He pimping out, trots and fury aiding the pirates.

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"Uh-huh. Morning in his time to get up with K D. You know, who it is? And if he would forgotten he gave you a reminder last night, we'll start with him what up performance, and then Ben Simmons. He heard what everyone was saying. And he had answer last night. It was most important performance of the postseason far so far that's in five minutes and then partners. But Michael robot will interrupt the proceedings we got nj talkin tiger. Will Bonn wants to weigh in huge. Our is a hand. It is time to get up. Starting right now for our studios in New York. Thank you for starting your Friday with us as Hugh got Rutledge is here, we got our laugh. He's wearing tie. What is going on? We regret later. We're fancy over. We've got a special guest big that Dwayne Haski special guest that we're excited to see Askins in-studio the best the best quarterback prospect in this year's draft. I don't care what anyone to draft analyst. So let's go hundred percent stake by reputation of which I have none just how good Dwayne Haskins is going to be. Well, let's start with the game of. Night, and it took place in LA clippers warriors form interesting because Kevin during you know, why am you're saying that was going up against Patrick Beverley but early on the warriors great job of getting Beverly away from cagey. Good job on a screen punch them off the ball little bit. Look at the hand off action force him to trail and allows Katie step into that mid range jump shot. That's the opening bucket of the game. And as the first quarter goes more of the same. Yeah. The looking to free him up and look all of these shots are mid range. Take your analytic stored up the window with Kate. He dominates the mid range game. It's not his game. It's not his game. They obviously are analytic driven thima caving could beat you from anywhere including shoot over Beverly which everyone's been asking him to do. Now is an offensive rebound. Beverly only watching at this point from the bench. Kevin Durant twenty seven points in the first half. So he talked to talk. And then last night he walked the walk. Now. Let's go to the one moment of concern. Really warriors. They went had big never late blue that lead in game two they'd blow it last night. But here's the moment. Dra Michael called offensive foul on K D, they're barking, and they would both get technical fouls. Yeah. I think the league is going to have to resemble these because they will Latin. And if you read listen what they're talking about. They're just talking through the play. I agree for the moment is third technical seven gets suspended. We'll see whether does get rescinded. In the meantime, he would score thirty eight in the warriors win going away. Came all super aggressive and then kill moat and. You know, that was all the difference for us. He said he yesterday's Kevin Durant. And so he he showed showed everybody who. Kevin Durant is trying to make it a point to come on kind of remind people is who you all without that's been going on series. And for twelve years thirty on these only show, nobody nothing at this point. Candidly. I love that answer to remind people who is for all the talk of Beverly shutting him down the numbers say otherwise he was three or four with Beverly on 'em last night. He's nine of thirteen against Beverley in the series. So as we take this to the table here for him. I think it's reasonable to say Beverly did a good job in the first couple of games of getting into Durant's head a little bit. And maybe getting out of his game. It doesn't mean he was shutting him down and last night Durant. Just went nuts. He was in NAT in the first couple of games. Right. Like, he was just annoying, and that's his role. And that's what he wants to do. That's fine. Even last night you thought for second. Okay. Katie came out. He hits his first two shots. But he also picked up to offense to fouls was an offensive foul. The other one was actually push against Beverley at the defensive floor less than three minutes in the game. You're like, okay. Is he going to take himself out of the game with fouls? The answer was quickly determined. No in did an excellent job the warriors didn excellent job. Look Steve Kurtz at one thirty shots. Didn't get thirty shots. But he was well over twenty he made more than h. Shots before they even got to the half, which was more than he made in the entire game too. He needs to be this aggressive. He is the best peer score in the game. I know we talk about James harden. He doesn't need a lot of shots. He is a fishing in the way that he's able to score the basketball, and he can get a shot off from anywhere. A lot of people wondered boogie cousins out with the warriors. Look like. And would that be somebody who they really missed? What's your take on that? After seeing what they did last night. Look, and I say this, and I wanna make sure that everybody understands because there's a special unique player, but he frees him being out. Frees up the warriors offense. And the reason is because now you're replacing them with Andrew bogut, and you don't need to post Andrew bogut, more posts were done by DeMarcus cousins than anybody else on the warriors roster since he came back and you had to get him shots to make sure that he was engaged in happy. Now, you don't have to worry about that dream on goes back to a straight facilitator role, and we saw that last night and you're getting more shots Katie Moore shots for Steph curry more shots for Klay Thompson. And I like when those three guys get more shots fee. Could be moments over the course of a long postseason one where they might feel. They'll miss it. They'll question maybe against cappella, maybe against Yokich if they wanted to playing him in this series. It doesn't feel that way. Quickly. Let me go to the technical foul because that could be a huge story as the series goes on. Let's make clear how this works. If you get seven technicals over the course of the postseason. No matter how many games that goes. That's an automatic suspension. If Durant technical from last night holds up that's three just three games on your way to suspension at seven. But you believe it will be recent. I think it has to be rescinded again. Read lips as they're walking down. Man. I didn't flop I was doing this. And he starts laughing and they're smiling. Laughing is now now they're just talking and both of them looked at the official. What are you doing? How are you? Giving us a technical in this moment. I think both teams will go to the league's office and say come on. That's not a technical foul. These guys were just having fun avenue conversation about the play just trans transfer. Just went down at the other end of the floor. Recent technical let's play for we don't want to lose the best players in the game. When really these playoffs has struggled in the ratings department. Anyway, I agree completely. So we'll see what happens there that was one big game last night and one big performance. But the biggest one was actually right across the river. Absolutely. Seventy Sixers taking on the nets and game three. Joel Embiid a game time decision. He would be ruled out with a left knee injury. Ben Simmons needing to step up in his absence and Simmons Jared Dudley of ads back and forth. After the first two games of the series window. Jared Dudley had some thoughts on seventy said Simmons a great player in transition. But I think he's average Simmons respond when asked about this pre game. All right. So then there was this these posters spotted around Brooklyn missing. Have you seen her since? Characteristics, just average. So how would Simmons respond who's moments of the first half and Sixers up by four. There was Simmons with the slam, but it down with a thority looks like these heard the criticism. He's ready to go. Third quarter. Simmons and Dudley. The mad is continues for them right here. Oh, hand off action and the foul and the shot, and it's what's this. I mean, this is just Ben Simmons at his best right there side. I that actually should be an emoji. I think we should just take that drum shirt. He is later in the third quarter. The nets down fifteen Dudley. Getting the past airball watched Simmons, right? You said I can't shoot at least smart enough to know that I shouldn't be shooting from out there this one. Well, it wasn't pretty. Yeah. It wasn't. Okay. So fourth quarter and ten minutes ago. Sixers up by seven and Semons right here in the past banking, the floater, and of course, good ball movement from him. He's fouled there to Ben Simmons in the half court. If you slowing down still but watch these plays. He is he is moving without the ball. He is strong little dribble. Handoff action. And then why and move everything is download in the paint for Ben Simmons under five minutes left to go watch this gorgeous Simmons to jam and he was the opposite of average last night is the game sound. How average Ben Simmons look tonight, another his all software reason one of the most dominant players in his league for reasons he showed up we need think Jared Dudley still thinks average corporate don't worry about it when Dudley that three pointer. I saw you look at them. Was there something extra there? Energy for honestly is done. People going to say what they wanna say is what it is. As gotta play. Yeah. In play. He did Ben Simmons scored thirty one points and shot eighty five percents in the field. According to the Elias sports bureau that's the highest field goal percentage and a thirty point game in Sixers playoff history. So we talked about this today. I mean, we were critical of been spins I think a lot of people work, and you kind of see the highs in the lows with Simmons even already in this postseason. What's your biggest takeaway from his performance, especially without Joel Embiid on the court? This is the frustrating aspect of Benjamin's because this is who he can be. I mean, he can't be dominant player and without Joel Embiid last night. If you told us yesterday morning when we sat here at this desk with Jalen sit in this seat. Hey beans, not gonna play tonight. Oh, this is the nets game. And then it's came out, and they got a couple of rebounds early looked like they were going to dominate inside in the paint. That was not the case Ben Simmons was like, you know, what you say can't shoot a jump shot. It doesn't matter. You can't stop me from getting to the rim, and he got to the rim with ease in last night's game. He is a very skilled player. But when motivated he is elite people for. Get about the fact rookie of the year all star in your too. It's not like he's been a bust. He's been really good. But it's moments where he doesn't engage quite as much as he probably should. And let's give some credit to Greg Monroe who stepped in and the absence of MBA didn't play very well last night. And let's also give some credit to Simmons himself. If we're going to be critical when he says things in handles things in ways, we don't like then it would be hypocritical. Not to give him credit. I thought he handled last night perfectly thought his responses on Dudley. We're great on the court. He shows he heard it. He shows he knows what is saying. And he's getting right there. It is. Then afterwards man were playing say here. I thought he handled all of that extremely well. I agree to your point Monroe and Bo Bon did an outstanding job filling in for Joel and beat twenty three points twenty one rebounds combined between the two of them. You get that kind of production from your center position that also frees up to bias Harris and frees up JJ Rettig who shot the ball excessively. Well from the outside. It was Simmons. Scoring down low. It's those two dominating on the glass scoring down low and then opening up your perimeter game. What do you think been Simmons needs to do for the rest, however, long they go in these playoffs for him to really be considered that because you're right? Yes. He's played pretty well. So far in his NBA career. But for him to be considered living up to the potential of the people think we're in a shooters league right now though everybody in the NBA about making shots. Right. I mean, Steph curry change, the mold of what an NBA star could actually look like go, watch AU basketball. That's my son's eighth grade tape. It's forty three point shots every game. No matter what you say. And when you're not shooting threes. People are looking at you going. What is wrong with you? Does he have to develop that aspect of his game? Yes. But he is still skilled enough and good enough to be able to score and dominate a basketball game. Whether it's scoring like he did last night or for silicon the offense because he's an elite level passer. Right. I wanna bring Adrian, where's your now ski into the conversation here because there's a lot to get to that. And here's what good morning. Thank you as always for spending a few minutes here. I wanna start. With embiid. Because clearly while all seems well in the moment. Sixers play good game and Simmons plays a good game. And silences some of that criticism over on the big picture. The big story last night is that embeds knee was such that he couldn't play. What are you hearing? And what are we thinking? Well, greenie this left knee tendinitis is just a reality. The Sixers and Embiid are going to have to deal with as long as they're in these playoffs, and you may see him continue to be in and out of the lineup. And if they can get him a game rest like they did in game three and then had that gap between game two and game. Four. That's how they're going to try to do it. You might be able to get away with that in this Brooklyn series next round. It's going to be harder. I think they're trying to get 'em bead is much Z cannon as he said the pain and how it feels game to game. They're at the mercy of that, listen if the seeds were to hold its Toronto that'd be sitting there for them the next round. I agree. They can get through Brooklyn. I'm sure they believe they can get through Brooklyn without him. They're not going any further than that without your well. And be while I have you let me just quickly get the latest on the Lakers coaching. Search. I think there are a lot of people around the country waiting to see what they do out there for the bronze coach what is the latest greenie. I'm told Tyler will interview with the Lakers today. Rob Pelinka the Lakers GM met with Monty Williams. Philadelphia's assistant earlier in the week. And I'm told there's an expectation on both sides that they will talk again before this process is over. Outstanding. Thank you so much, my friend. We'll check in with you as we continue to roll through these playoffs weekend. Meantime, let me get you to some football here. Because this I think is very interesting. It was an interview with s TV that aired yesterday. Josh Rosen broke his silence regarding what can only be described as uncertain future in Arizona Cardinals are widely expected to draft quarterback Tyler Murray number one overall next Thursday, where does that leave Rosen then interesting question, he doesn't have answers. Here's part of his interview. People talk about like, you can't listen to criticism or don't ever read articles like you have to be aware of what's going on to a certain extent. So like, I definitely understand the situation. I mean, it's annoying. But like it is what it is football's business, and I definitely respect the higher ups and their decisions. I think the best advice of ever in life from Sony different. People is is control you can control and whatever decisions are made. It's my duty to prove them. Right. If they keep me improve the wrong issue. All right. So those are interesting words, Dan are Laskey is with us all morning long talking quarterbacks and more. When you first heard those comments and Rosen, what went through your mind, I would run and give up a first draft pick for that kid in a trade. If I'm a team that needed a quarterback, I would run to the cardinals and give up my first round pick. Because right now what he's going to really test. It's a test and hearing him talk. He aced that test. This is a kid who's been football wise through a law that was a storm last year that he was in an era Zona and you're hearing him talk in going. I'm ready on the cherry. I'm growing. He was entitled if he was this breath that some people think is he wouldn't say that stuff, you wouldn't say, and it felt real to me. It felt connected. There's so much there for this kid. He is I love hearing. I loved hearing what he said, I think it's important that the context of his history be put into the conversation, Laura, you covered him in college. Which is where all started getting for those who are not really fully aware give. A very quick synopsis of that. Yeah. I think if you go back through his career as a football player, he's been questioned at every level and has always been so talented, and you go back to his time at UCLA there were times when he would deal with injuries. He'd be on the sideline and people would be saying, we'll maybe he's not really heard. Maybe maybe he's actually fine. Maybe he should be out there. Maybe he's not being tough enough for his team. He would continually get beat up. I mean, specifically you go back to that Texas an MD that we're seeing right here that he led his team on a huge comeback and just got a Nile lated there. There were questions about that all the way through even in last year's draft. Remember, he was upset that he had fallen as far as he did to the ten th pick in the draft felt like he should have been drafted higher felt like people still doubted him, and he's been able to in some ways capitalize on that. I think with the ways mature and the point that we make here all the time, Dan, and we've had good conversations about it. Far more quarterbacks are ruined than developed in pro football going into pro football. And this kid has already on his way to overcoming all that how many different coaches and offenses has been in. Whether he's in Arizona this year or not. This will be his sixth coach in five years. Imagine a six different boss six six different ways to do something. Six different versions of how you're talked to and expect it to execute a plan. Imagine doing that six times in five years. It's basically impossible. I mean last year he had the bottom five defense a bottom five offensive line and a bottom five run game. What would you expect? And he has coming off last year. He has every right or opportunity to be like lesser wasn't fair to me. This is not fair on the better player in that. But no, he's going. It is what it is. I'm going to control what I can control. That's my job. And he even said winning was intoxicating of winning was intoxicated. He wants to go be somebody's guy. I think he also sees that to your point being somebody's guy somewhere else could be beneficial to him. That's what actually happens the NFL draft, of course, less than a week away. It's still not clear what the giants will do. And they have that number six pick and number seventeen overall pick yesterday. Giants GM Dave Gettleman. Address the possibility of drafting a quarterback shared his thoughts on ally. Manning. Here's what he had to say. Do I believe you can do it? I mean big name for me film. No lie film. The live you go back, and you watch second half of the year when we all started playing a high level has team. You see how he played you? See I plays out of defense played off the line play. And that's what it is. It went into last season believing that he liked still had plenty left any proved. He did I'm just telling you. I'm not going to force a pick. You can't draft for need. You'll get screwed every time you make you'll make a mistake. Dave has a remarkable way of always seeming as he's explaining something to you that only understands what when you hear him say that when you can't force it pick all that stuff. And that was just a little clip of a very long soliloquy. If you will from him yesterday, what'd you think I get that? But the jets in the Texans and the chiefs would have something to say about it because they forced pick. I mean, they forced the jets went and force their way up to the top to get Sam darnold the chiefs forced their way closer to the top. I think ten or twelve to go get Mahomes in the Texans. Did that with the Shawn Watson they forced their way to go get their guy. And so I understand like we're not just going to go chase somebody. But if there's a guy that you really like you have to force your way to go get the guy that you need. It's not like a a want. You do need a quarterback for your future in New York. All right. I to thoughts coming out of this. The first is what I think he's saying that if I were to take it at face value is if you don't love the quarterback don't take care. That's what I think chasing. It would be if you don't like him. For whatever reason they didn't love Saint Barna last year. They didn't love Josh Rosen than that part of it. I get but maybe the larger point that I would make here is we need to do away with these press conferences leading up to the draft. What is it exactly? We want him to say guys were desperate. We need a quarterback so badly we will move heaven and earth thing at one. I don't care. What happens if they don't fall to me at six I'm getting fired next year? So I'm moving up. I mean at some point rate. Honesty is honesty is not going to work in this circumstance. I don't know why these guys why we demand that. They talked to us when it is so obvious it is not in their best interest or anyone's for them to tell us what their actual, I also there's the opportunity for him to go. I'm aware of our situation. And certainly we want a quarterback this year. And there's a bunch of guys or there's a guy or two that we really like and the draft moves in so many different ways. We're going to do our best to get our guy. But we're also not gonna hinder football team moving forward and going giving up our future say that. Functionally it's the same thing. He can do whatever he wants what he says is irrelevant at this point. Right. Yes. Because at the dates how you execute an operate a win games. There's no doubt about that. But there's also a part were general managers massage their fan base and understand that their football team. And fan base is looking what are we going to do? That's very real question in your choose to believe that he actually means he's not going to reach in the draft because they're going to trade for Rosen. Maybe that fan base if they wake up next Friday and Dwayne Haskins is their quarterback or Josh Rosen quarterback. Dave zych. Zayn force though, because I could justify six seventeen and Rosen trade is not meeting to be forced -tunities, and the Rosen trade is by far the least expensive option from pure financial standpoint for whatever that part of it is worth. All right. We'll take our first break of the morning. We're just getting started a lot more coming up including Michael Jordan weighing in on. Tiger woods. Mike wilbon thoughts on what nj had to say. It's talking goat and come back. Don't miss it. Plus, the someone on this show need to pump the brakes on the Browns. Oh, the woman's gonna call someone out and stunningly. It's me. Kim continue your watching to get. Yes. ESPN air. He. Get up is brought to you by navy Federal Credit Union. Our members are the mission. Huge were coming up, including Michael wilbon in our studio talking about everything is a bone to pick. With me. I'm told Charles Berkeley, pick the blazers to win the west is Michael agree. And Michael Jordan talking about Tiger Woods as the greatest comeback of all time. We'll will weigh in on all that and more. He joins us in studio coming up shortly. But first I'll little sneaky, hembo, time. Here we go. Kevin Durant owns the second highest playoff scoring average in warriors history at nearly twenty nine points game who ranks first fascinating question. The answer is next. You're watching get up on ESPN. Wouldn't tracking the domestic dust bunny? You come to find them hiding the wardrobes next to Las soaks don't to sudden. Although scarring off what's the fascinating about the dust bunny is that although they're not actually sent creatures when they the Kyko not only saves people money, but also has ninety seven percents customer satisfaction rating. It's obvious to them. You should switch because. Yes. Switching to gyco is a no brainer. No is the dust bunnies. Only natural predator on the lung dust on his run along. We are back on get up with him. Most favorite moment of the show. Here we go farnum ready. Kevin Durant has the second highest playoff scoring average in warriors history. Almost twenty nine a game whose first okay. So obviously, I'd go back to my childhood growing up in the bay area about those run TMC teams. I'm not going with any of them. I'm gonna go like Nate Thurmond. Because I think he's obscure enough where he's trying to trick me. So I'm with Nate. Gun my wrong. One was Rick baddy. The correct is will Chamberlain overthinking who averaged thirty gradulate. Tembo weeks that is well done. In the meantime, let us run the floor warriors blew out the clippers last night one thirty two one zero five Kevin Durant. Thirty eight points, seven assists after day after saying, you know, who I am what he do last night. He got to his area where he's comfortable that mid range quadrant is where he's both successful. I watched him worked out in the summer of last couple of years. He loves working mid range game where he doesn't have to over dribble to get to a shot. And then once he starts flowing. That's when you start to see entire repertoire that's step back with just nasty separate himself from shake us Alexander. And again, a lot of the shots come from the right and the left water right off the free throw line. Analytics will not a great shot. It's a great shot when Kevin Durant knocks down at a seventy five percent. Clint last night sort of gave you the feeling that when the warriors get seriously they can't be bothered to play every game when they get serious. No one can play with them. Another game last night. The other one in the west the Spurs taking care of business at home against the nuggets. One eighteen. One eight behind Derek Whyte who his career high thirty six points. He's becoming a breakout star in this season. So you would assume break Popovich would be in a great mood after the game. Right. Well, maybe not so fast. Here was pop and his daily moment. Chose your impression of Derek tonight. As okay. I have to say I have to answer that question. You were at the game, right? It was obviously spectacular. What else to say? Sean farnum your thoughts. I love the story of their quite for those of you who don't do not know he was at division to basketball player for three years before transplant into Colorado. He had no stars next to his name coming out of high school. He was the anthem of what we talk about. When we say I on Williamson and RJ Barrett and all those guys and yet here's a guy that's given into the game has continued to develop an is never taken a ceiling that somebody else's placed on him. And last night. He had a huge performance and just goes to the scouting department Spurs why the Spurs the Spurs because they find guys like Derek Whyte all of a sudden continue to develop and become really good players. And he had a really big game on a great stage player development of something. They don't talk about much in basketball because these guys sort of walk in as ready made stars, and we'd just figure well you can player they can break Popovich and the Spurs. They actually make players better. It is a rarity in the sport today. Our coverage of the NBA playoffs. Rolls on tonight. We have not one not two but three. Game threes rafters magic seventies. And that's on ESPN, Celtics. Pacers eight thirty on ABC and the blazers and the funder at nine thirty. That's on ESPN all three games are streaming live on the ESPN app as well. So you can watch no matter where you may be back to some put ball because I thought this was interesting the Jaguars executive VP com. Coughlan is he expressed his unhappiness yesterday with a few of players two of them being absent from the start of voluntary offseason workouts? Jalen Ramsey and tell Vince myth listen to Coughlan. The voluntary off season program has begun. We're very close to one hundred percent attendance attendants, quite frankly, all our players should be here about rights and privileges. It's about obligations and responsibility. And the question is can we count on you championship teams are dominated by selfish? Individuals who recognize that the welfare the team must always be paramount to any other consideration. Fascinating. Now, the NFL PA president Eric Winston was not happy about those comments. He said, quote, our CBA definition of voluntary is the same as the actual definition and prohibits anyone from threatening players to participate in voluntary workouts. This is precisely the reason players negotiated strict work rules and bright lines when it comes to offseason activities. All right Orlovsky back with us who's right and who's wrong, I'm on Tom Coughlin side. And I'm a little bit of an old school guy. I get that. But I always believe that we should be together. I understand the difference between voluntary mandatory the reality is. That's just there for money. You can't find me if I'm not there. But we always love the teams that I was part of this didn't necessarily equate to wins and losses, but it meant something being together, it meant something in April in May June being together because you know, what else is it mandatory is wins team come rotary that is a voluntary thing. So the great thing about it is when you're stars when you're stars are your your temp. Centers when they're around all the time. That's how you organization really gets better because this is organising team right now that's lacking some leadership. It's got some off the field troubles with one of their stars. It's lose lost their franchise quarterback. And now this will be area that Nick foles helps. But and everyone always points. Go Tom Brady does and go will Tom Brady go because he can't get security carrying six rings to the metal detector guys. Like, there's a difference. And so I believe that you're young stars. Should always be around dictating setting the tempo pre organization, it doesn't bother me at all. Actually that Ramsey and snits don't show up for these workouts. They're working out. I think we're fooling ourselves if we're trying to there were people out there that said, they're just not doing anything. They're doing their own workouts that work best for them. And if they don't want to be there for voluntary workouts, voluntary to the point the definition actually says voluntary, I get it. Why Tom Brady doesn't show up? I actually I've never been on NFL team, obviously. But I actually don't think that. All I do with my outfit. Anyway, hold har- may. Let me Linh some some some sensibility to the proceedings here. Okay. We're talking about Jalen Ramsey. We're talking about a guy who is the first one to give his opinion on how everybody else on every other team goes about their business. And now you're just coming off the most disappointing season of any team in the NFL. I don't care what other team you wanna name. No, one was a big as appointment then the Jaguars were last year and a huge part of it was a lack of leadership. And here's your best player and your leader not there to lead. So I understand what you're saying. Do I think he's working at of course, he's winning out? That's not a great player. Absolutely. He's a great player, but you said many times and so of others just because you're the best player. Does it make you the leader? And in this case, he I think relinquishes the mantle of being the leader by not being there at this time. I understand Eric Winston is going to fight back against this. The NFL PA is because it's the only thing they got in the bargain agreement was we don't have to show up for all this stuff. So they're gonna fight back on that. But the reality is the great teams. You're one hundred percent, right. Tom Brady always used to show up. Now. He's forty two and he's got six championships. He can do what he wants in April. But the really great teams are together right now at times like this. I think it's a big mistake. Well, we always here to sports the little things become the big things. And so yes, this is a little thing. I'm not making a mountain out of a mobile, but when your team in your organization is in a unique spot we talked about the expectations last year. If you're the star if you want to be the face or the leader, do the little things is it annoying. It's jacksonville. I've been worse cities in April yet. Ramsey's gotta show up on the field. I mean, sure no doubt about that. But I don't think this big deal. All right. We'll say as usual. There are lots of opinions. And I'm right as we continue Michael Jordan on Tiger Woods need, we say more. But we won't because Michael labontes here. And he's getting to say Jordan says tiger was the greatest comeback of all time. What is wilpon say you'll find out right after this ghetto on ESPN. Fight on. Over. Con. Ventures versus then. Whatever it takes takes takes. Tune into the Crawford. Conway ESPN to catch a special book at studios of vendors and game in theaters April twenty six. We are back on. But Cleveland Browns have been the talk of the league ever since their trade for Dell Beckham the NFL took notice scheduling the Browns for four primetime games yesterday on PTI, the one and only Michael wilpon wanted everyone, especially me. On the Browns. Listen to this. They're way too many people trying to talk the Cleveland Browns into being good. You can't talk them into being good. They gotta be good. You know, I'm here in Brooklyn. I came here to this studio to stock my dear friend, greenie 'cause greetings wanted to people everyday telling you how great the Cleveland Browns going to be because they got this guy this guy this guy this guy came to find green to say, stop it. This is the most overly talked about franchises sports last five years 'cause wrote some stupid HBO show and now because they made some traits. You can't talk them into greatness. They gotta play. The one the. Mafi? Here starting so I and former first of all welcome. And they might know you a well enough to know the waking up at this hour does not come easy. So hit a nap after the Brooklyn Sixers game Michael Antoni are here in our studio, by the way, 'cause they will be the guest today on part of the choose me on I eight the gang on efforts across the hall coming up later this morning, which is great. But let me start with that. I want introduce you to Dan Orlovsky. This is the guy who's hyping up the Brown. Not me. Bore the brunt on your friend. So you tell him why the Browns are going to be so good. Find me the whole of their football team. I'll find it. Somebody will find it September's six or so. I mean what happened? We we live in era now in which everything is prejudged analytically to the degree in nine levels deep. How many how many you notice much better than you know, you've played on teams from peewee on up to have personnel. That said in suggested, oh, they have to be this. And they're not that if I had a dollar for every team, I covered you may know this mold enough did cover the NFL for about fifteen years as well. This so many teams that have personnel that was supposed to convey into this. And they didn't the Browns may be everything that they are projected now to be and they may not we'll find out in September. They can't be talking. I don't even know what H HBO hadn't been good. Obviously, they can putting them on. How many years have the Cleveland Browns been talked about and not worth a damn? Well, Well, I I would say like most of those teams first of all the NFL all pro sports are telling driven thing like you acquired talent. And hopefully that Telemachus I would say that when that talent doesn't mesh. It's because there's a significant lack of leadership. There's we don't know who we are. There's no one steering the ship. And that for me is why I believe the Browns are Baker Mayfield. Like Baker Mayfield as evidence last year is a different cat. I mean, he's somehow able to rally a terrible situation organization under terrible circumstances, and somehow one then six or seven gains in a matter of twelve or thirteen starts. So that's why I don't get concerned with the we said the same thing about the Rams last year requiring too much talent, Sean McVay challenges this. This thing is to all those personalities is there are no football. We show McVay going to be able to handle it somehow they got to the Super Bowl. So I don't necessarily think like. Oh, man. There's got to I understand that the go. Poof, we say that about everything is what I would say they're going to be fascinating, regardless of which way goes right because you have all of these personalities in a room Mayfield as a personality. Odell is a personality Landry is a personality. That's not even taking new account. A lot of other names that you know, it's going to be fascinating to watch whichever way fascinating. And yet last year dysfunction of the Steelers. Yeah. But we know had talent and leadership. We know that leadership wants them not so long ago. Along Super Bowl. This is what sports is. I mean, look at the Lakers. I mean, I'm sorry. What did we talk about every single day team that some people have projected to go to the conference finals couldn't get within three weeks of the playoffs? That's what sports is and the Cleveland Browns. You gotta show me, sir. Two things. I'd like to point out really fast. The fact that Landry and Odal Beckham already have a great relationship. I do think from a personality standpoint, and mixing and meshing and being able to share touches standpoint. That's good another guy. Nobody talks about Nick Chubb. They're running back who is so humble a workhorse. Somebody who I believe will be a big part of their offense that nobody's talking about as much right now because he's not as big of a name. So to me, he's got the right personality to mesh with all these are just names, right? I live in Washington DC where every year this was done about the Redskins. They got this. Hall of famers how many playoff game? So the Redskins wanted back ship years. The fascinating part of this gives part of that time. And that's not lacking leader Shambo. Put the set up the last division. They won was eighty nine since then they moved to Baltimore and became the ravens. Well, let me get to the next topic. Here. The Portland trailblazers are currently up to zip on. Okay. See in that series out west. And I think a lot of people would look at them winning this despite the seating as an upset but not Charles Barclay further to visit. This was Berkeley on our show yesterday talking about the Trail Blazers. Sleeping on the Portland. Trailblazers? They were my pick to get out of the west. I still think they will get out of the west. So so do not sleep own the Pulitzer blazes. The addition of Innes, captain, Rodney hood to go at McCallum and Lillard. I think did have been they've been the most underrated team in NB all year. I'm going with the polo Trail Blazers to win the west at apparently Charles had said that on TNT before the playoffs started. And I just missed it. So that was why took me back yesterday. Sean joins us here. Obviously Golden State's on the other side of the draw Houston on the other side of the draw. What do you think of Portland I liked Portland? I don't know that I liked them quite as much as Charles just take into account a possible scenario Houston can be Golden State. I'm not picking that. But Houston can beat Golden State. And if they do they could get Portland the Portland gotta get out of this series. Okay. See I think Russell Westbrook is going to roar back in game. Three. When that series, moose Oakville KC. But I'm not gonna say it's out of the question debt, Portland to score the upset the only there in the side of the bracket where they got a score one one big say, it would be an enormous upset with the way Lillard McCollum being back in that lineup plant and Kanter being great insurance policy. I mean, it's a dark horse which Charles also got something else. Right. Pigs Jimmy from day one of the college basketball season. He had UVA win it. He did pick the nuggets to win last night. He guaranteed them because Murray came out with the shirt on. But then. Charles face on it. But here's the deal. I watched the warriors play last night. I watched the rockets the other night and the efficiency in which you saw it wasn't just the numbers that James harden, drew up at the efficiency in which they run up and as much as I like, our yearly reminder, and this is our yearly reminder on the national level of just how good Dame Lillard actually is CJ McCollum is out semi if nurtures there. I'd buy this without Nurkic. I'm like Kanter. But I'm not you've got the better back court with the warriors. And by the way, they also have K D. I I'm with you. And that's why I couldn't make the pick. But again, I think that pick starts with Houston beating Golden State, and I don't know what chance you give the rockets of doing that in the next day. The best chance of anybody in the west. And then could they be not today? Be knocked off their let's face it. Houston is not as impenetrable as the warriors. We we've seen some spring collapses. I'm not predicting it. But it's not out of the question. I think Charles picks. What it gives us whole thing. All right. So we bring people in here to debate. With will let me give you this one all by yourself last Sunday in Augusta. Tiger Woods won the masters. I spoke about it all day here on Monday. It was as a motion a win. I can ever remember seeing in sports Tigers, everyone knows his forty-three went eleven years that winning a major another legend by the name of Michael Jordan had Vits high praise for tiger as told to the athletic, quote, I took two years off to play baseball. But nothing like that. I'm pretty sure he questioned himself whether he could get it back and he had to put a lot of work, but he took it head on. He had to change his game. You had to change his perspective a little bit to me. It was the greatest comeback I've ever seen. So Michael, I just want to give you the floor for those who didn't get a chance to watch this weekend. Get your perspective on this. You don't have to necessarily address. Michael Jordan's piece of this. But what Tiger Woods did what we also? And I know you love golf as much as anyone I know loves golf, what through your eyes. What did you see from? Tiger Woods this week. I was glad David all just called reach Michael Jordan Davis. Athletic because I always thought long before it actually happened. And now this happened to me, it's a minute that tiger joined the two greatest athletes. I dunno post. Roar too. And Ali, Jordan. What do they what's the thread? Comebacks. I mean, all these comeback. Obviously sort of redefined comebacks in that we're talking nineteen seventies. Before these two were born. You were new pants. But then of course, Jordan's comeback and their comebacks weren't didn't take nearly as long absences weren't as great Jordan was gone for less than two full years and all he was gone forcibly for about three and in in my life. Someone of my age. Those are the comebacks and been HOGAN came back from something more severe physically when you look at the just the bones broken and twisted and mangled and how it was he was able to come back and win. But I mean culturally and just in terms of where we are now in terms of our sports operation. I can't those those three to me are now set aside and tighter has a chance to I mean, just go further. I don't know that it's even fair to expect that I'm trying to calm Tony down every day page and pebble and like, wait a minute. I mean, just winning the masters if that's all he does. And I don't think y'all it's just it's unthinkable. Expect for have realistically, you know, what? For the first time. I don't have expectation. I just wanna watch it. Enjoy tighter. Yeah. Seriously. I just wanna watch every whatever whenever you tease it up. Now, I just wanna watch it. And he's he's off the hook to me. He's done this thing. I mean, it Lanta Eastleigh Georgia's pretty good to him Eastleigh. And now Augusta you know sorting back to back, but in the same room, it's unspeakable I only have ninety seconds. And it requires a lot more. I grant that for this answer. But how would you put into words, what Tiger Woods means right now at this moment with everything that we have watched this entire life arc. What does he mean? He's he's one of the great sports personalities carry it from from athletically, and again is influence culturally. You add all that up historically what he's done for golf. He change golf twice. He changed it in nineteen ninety seven eight nine. And now he's changed it again, and they need to get down on their knees. Because look what Tigers done at a time where his own Nike had to say. We're out of part of this. Right. And so Tigers sort of bringing this energy back to golf again. It's I don't know again. He's not all the, but it would be look over the recent arc of history. He's on the shortlist of discussion. Mike von is here. He and Tony will be across the hall doing. I take a little bit later today. And what kind of say, you know, how much thank you for coming by great to see. Thanks for having me. I'm Bill later. Oh, wait a minute. I'm I'm Steve getting stay for the top of the hour and talk about the basketball game even getting taking now. For you. Dear friend, how much saying goodbye. Yeah. Anywhere. And then we'll come back with more with Michael wilpon and his perspective on what we saw in the NBA last night. Kennedy was a story line. Ben Simmons storylines Stephen in the door. In the back. Litas? You wouldn't. He's got a bagel is ready to go.

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Dan Patrick Show - Hour 1 - Michael Wilbon (02-19-19)

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Dan Patrick Show - Hour 1 - Michael Wilbon (02-19-19)

"It's all about me. Dan, Patrick gas. There is more where that came from click back for new episodes all week, log broadcasting from the Mercedes man cave here. He is joined by the Ford, Dan nuts. It's Dan Patrick. We enjoyed ourselves so much yesterday. We decided to do it again today. Dan, Dan, Dan, Patrick show. Glad to have you onboard Michael wilpon from pardon the interruption stops buying a little bit check in on the LA Lakers with the help of the Bill plaschke's the LA times columnist. He'll join us coming up little bit later on as well. You can be part of the festivities in variety of ways. You can dial us up eight seven seven three DP show, Email address DP and Dan Patrick dot com. Twitter handle at DP show. We say good morning to our TV partners, the NBC sports network. And of course, direct TV the audience network channel two thirty nine. There's a lot of chatter about LeBron James today yesterday, and we'll continue the rest of the regular season. Saw the headline NBA room. Lakers are privately concerned about LeBron James the athletics Joe Vardon wondering if James is fully healed. And if he's going to be able to pick up the intensity to take the purple and gold back to the playoffs ESPN's. Brian Windhorst noted that he claimed he had heard James is playing at a career high two hundred eighty pounds was unable to go through normal conditioning. While he was injured I mentioned this yesterday. And I was trying to be polite politically, correct, LeBron James doesn't look like he's in shape. He's bigger than normal. But he missed all these games. He wasn't able to work out at his age. And it looks like he's put on ten or fifteen pounds. He does it look like the LeBron James that were used to seeing. What does that mean in all of this? Can he be healthy? Can he help this team in the last twenty five games of the regular season? Can they make the playoffs? Keep in mind when the season started everybody was saying patients, then all of a sudden, I said you got to fight this urge all know, we might not make the playoffs. I'll know LeBron won't be in the playoffs on. No. We gotta make a move. We got a trade for Anthony Davis all know, wait patients. That's that's what you said from the beginning patience. And you have to adhere to that it, you know, don't you know, mortgage your future just to make the playoffs this year. If you're looking at big picture, then you're looking at next year next season. That's where it's going to be maker break LeBron in his Laker career who you bring in because at that age, you know, the younger pieces around is anybody laughed and who else is coming in. So this year was sort of a feeling out period. Now, everybody gets nervous and LeBron. You know was injured missing games. Now, these younger kids are going wait a minute LeBron coming in. He doesn't care about us it if he's not trading is now he's trading us in the off season. So it's a mess right now. But you know, why you didn't have to trade for Anthony Davis. Now, you could have waited and shown patients and traded for him in the off season. But when you make it public, and it was handled poorly certainly handled poorly by his management team and even Anthony Davis. Anthony Davis shouldn't have done an interview during all star weekend where he says no all twenty nine teams whether it's thirty teams so New Orleans has no chance of keeping him. So he says, well, you know, all twenty nine teams are on my list. Okay. I don't believe that he says he wants to go where he can win. There are few teams that don't care about winning right now. I don't think Anthony Davis is picking those teams and putting them. Hi. On his priority list here. So it's a mess right now. But that's where I'd still preach patients with this. See LeBron is able to do when he comes back. Can you make the playoffs if not next year is the important year? And LeBron look like he was having fun at the all star weekend. And I hope you enjoyed that. I hope he did too. I don't know the next time he's going to get on the floor and be in that kind of mood again because he was having fun. Although it felt like, and I read a whole lot into body language comes like, I'm watching LeBron in it almost felt like everybody else was talking to one another like they had a buddy, you know, like, Katie and kyri just felt like there were Dwayne Wade and Dirk Nowitzki. So you had partners yet. It was like a buddy movie, but didn't have a body like he was looking around going who's you know, when Jim Valvano and NC state won the national title over Houston. Valvano was looking for somebody to hug. He just won the national title. And he's looking around running around trying to hug somebody. Lebron is looking for somebody to hug their or tamper with or both. I don't know if hugging is tampering with the NBA, but up to check in with a long the second pro hug not know Tampa fritzy's guilty of tampering then quite a bit. But I just wondered where he's looking at all of this. And then there's talk that Katy and kyri maybe they could make they could get together in New York, and all of these different things, then you know, Boston's not out of it with Anthony Davis. Lebron's gone. It'll be looking around going, man. Did I overplay my hand? I got some younger players here. They should know that I do come in. Sometimes and say, hey, we're going to trade some of the younger players or maybe a coach gets fired on my watch. But LeBron gonna look and say who is going to come in to the Lakers who's gonna look at this and go. Yep. That's what I want. That's why kyri said, you know, I need to get away from this. And I you know, trade me I want out of here. Collide didn't wanna look at the Lakers. He they he doesn't wanna be around that Anthony Davis. Anthony Davis is a little more pliable with his personality that you know, he would fit in. He would sort of you know, whatever mold LeBron needed him to be. He's capable of doing that. He's not a guy who is comfortable in the spotlight with headlines attached to him. He's just a great player. But I started to think about that Paul George likes Oklahoma City. Paul George is an MVP candidate in Oklahoma City, somehow became the number one guy in Oklahoma City over Russell Westbrook, which is really amazing to be able to do that. But he did coli in Toronto might be comfortable might want to stay there. So then you start to look around and go Kay who's going to be available. Is Chris Middleton from Milwaukee going to be available? What names are going to come in because LeBron desperately wants to win that next title? So you do it with three different franchises. He's trying to different differentiate his career from Michael Jordan's. That's the way to do it. Hey, look at what I did with three different franchises. But it's not gonna be that easy. And then you wonder who's going to be that piece that comes in? And you gotta get a couple of pieces here because I think LeBron looks at the younger group and says I can't win a championship with these guys, and he'll be helped if Kevin Durant leaves Golden State, but still Golden State won a title without Kevin Durant. I mean, you know, then if you lose Kevin Durant Deke boogie cousins, you know. So, you know, there's a seismic shift that could happen with all of this. And then maybe we get to the east and you look at the east with the Celtics and the Sixers with Toronto. And then if the. What happened again in the picture? Then all of a sudden the power is in the east not the west, but you still have Golden State. So if just kind of weird with the whole LeBron situation of who he is now where he is now and the Lakers organization, I think Luke Walton is going to be a fall guy here. You know, some of these younger pieces are going to be part of the trade bait to bring an Anthony Davis. And Anthony Davis hasn't won anything. He wanted national title at Kentucky. I don't even think he scored in the national title game. Didn't he did? He did he go like oh for something from the field. They had a few poise. Maybe like foul shots. Yeah. But I mean, Anthony Davis is wonderful. He is a you. You're the guy who came in before anyone on Anthony Davis. Like, I got the next superstar in the NBA like three weeks into his NBA career. Yes. But I wanna know what he has to prove he can win something if I'm going to bring in Anthony Davis with LeBron James, what does that mean? Who else do I have on the floor? Right. I mean Rajon Rondo Michael be like those guys aren't winning you championship of javale McGee. But if I have to give up a whole lot to get Anthony Davis, then can I? And then what do I have left in the cupboard because LeBron the clock is ticking on LeBron not Anthony Davis on the Braun? Lebron needs to have players coming in now at his age. Yes. Mclovin. Though, I'm playing devil's advocate Rondo and McGee just one titles. Rhonda one McGee one if they're like the seventh player you could win. How many where do you need the next? Good player. It feels like to me LeBron. Anthony Davis is a pretty good start. But who else do you have who else can you convince to come in unless they're unless they're managed by LeBron's agency? Who were you getting in how many guys you need like real rotation-wise? You got to compete with the warriors. I gotta have three at least three. But the warriors are so smart keep in mind that they drafted Klay Thompson, they drafted Steph curry. Right. I mean, they drafted Draymond green. They oh. By the way. Let's take a flyer on boogie cousins. We bring in Steve Kerr. We have a fun atmosphere here and Kevin Durant wanted to go and play in a fun atmosphere and win some championships. But, you know, so that's part of the reason why I wanted to have wilpon plash kion, just you know, where are we right now with LeBron James and the Lakers as they move forward because everybody thinks you would wanna go play for LeBron James and play for the Lakers. There's so much involved in that circus that that you got to be ready for and players privately would talk about the Cleveland situation where LeBron ran the team the plane took off when LeBron wanted it to take off like you go in that's LeBron's team. And you have to understand that what comes along with that. He's going to get the credit. You're going to get the blame long. I think what you said there is a big difference. Lot. People want to play for the Lakers. Not all people wanna play with LeBron. Because you're even if you're the better player, you don't stir the drink look at Kyrie Irving. He was equal to as often a player. Cal. Paul George screamed for a year. You heard the stories that he wanted to be a Laker. He passed. It was a choice. He didn't even have to do anything. He just had signed a deal, but you had free agents who didn't even interview with the Lakers years ago. They usually that you would go there, and at least do an interview. But now, this isn't the Lakers. It's it's about LeBron James, and I would want to know who is he now like what kind of player is he he's still a great player. But what is he going to be then play defense? He doesn't. But he's still an offensive force is is he the guy you build around. Or is it really you're the next guy you bring in you should be building around Anthony Davis if you can get him, and there's no guarantee that you're getting Anthony Davis because Anthony Davis wants to be a free agent. He wants to test the market. So that means if the pelicans trade him to Boston Ben Boston has a season to try to make him comfortable there. And it's a big risk because you're going to have to give up Jason Tatum and probably to other and some draft picks. But if you're gonna roll the dice on Anthony Davis, and you got a great coach Brad Stevens. So there's there's a whole lot going on now, and we'll be going on for the next couple of months and then into the offseason as well. By the way, the Dan Patrick show. Brought to you by the great folks at legalzoom for the legal advice your business needs you can count on legalzoom legalzoom's not a law firm, but they're nationwide network of independent attorneys can review contracts help with employment laws and more. Go to legalzoom dot com today and special savings, of course, enter Patrick checkout at legalzoom dot com. What kind of poll question you got for me today? Mclovin. Do you want to throw out do the Lakers who are one game under five hundred three games back? The AT make the playoffs. How do you think? People answer with boy. Boy, the Brian is back. Yeah. But he's I don't think he's healthy. I'd have to look at who's going to be competing for that the eighth spot like who's in nine ten kings are kings are nine clippers eight Spurs jazz, everyone, you know, the whole west at the by there's like five teams within five games of each other. Yeah. Yeah. The odds are against LeBron and the Lakers making the playoffs this year. But I didn't you. I mean, you had people who thought they would play for the Western Conference championship this year, your member, then I want you gotta be kidding me. That's why I said if he got to fifty wins this year with that team. He should have been MVP. I think there are ways for forty one. I mean, so they're average they're an average team. But you had you had people who do this for a living who said the Lakers will play the Golden State Warriors for the Western Conference title amick. Mclovin. I kind of feel like if they say at the seven seed look at the other teams in the west the warriors. But then it's a nugget thunder blazers rockets jazz Spurs, the nuggets are right on the doorstep and Golden State Warriors. Dave saying I don't wanna play. I know why LeBron in there could do some damage, man. No. I know this is all ideas. Well, it's LeBron. But nobody else on that roster. I mean, Rondo my counting on him and chevelle be you know, you say, oh, they won titles. Okay. They did. Right. Used to be great. He did that title. Yes. Probably going to be a hall of Famer. But you know, once you get into the playoffs, and I don't know what I can expect from LeBron. Yeah. Fritzy, and our friend, Chris Mannix. I'd say from the gecko like what is this team that got some older guys that got some young guy. They can't really define who they are. And he was very much skeptical as to how this was going to work out or have them in the playoffs any time real soon. Well, he thought that the locker room was going to be combustible, and it it hasn't been and maybe it got close to it. When these younger guys realize, hey, we might get Anthony Davis. Oh, we're the reason why they're going to get Anthony Davis. We're gonna get traded. And so you know, that that can't be a pleasant locker room where you're walking in knowing that that guy is great as he is didn't want. You didn't think he could win with you? And even Luke Walton hasta know LeBron didn't bring in. And his history with coaches, he could be the fall guy. Also, the pelicans there's some people with the pelicans who believe Anthony Davis won't play again for the team this season by not because of injury. Well, I don't know how this works where you get around being fined one hundred thousand dollars for each game that you sit him out because I think the Commissioner lay down the law, but according to Scott Kushner of the New Orleans advocate there people within the pelicans organization who think Davis will be benched when play resumes after the all star break. Six man of the year, you can get away winning award. Does he get a bonus for that? The pelicans are unmotivated to play Davis for the rest of the season out of fear that he might suffer an injury. They know he has no intention of signing with them long term. So they're almost certainly going to trade him this summer. However Davis said he wants to keep playing the NBA reportedly threatened sanctions against New Orleans if they bench him while he's healthy. Now, he only played think five minutes in the all star game. But he's had a finger injury and a shoulder injury. I don't know if you can say he's not one hundred percent healthy. And you're gonna sit him for the last twenty five games of the regular season. Yes. No counter. Did I just miss here that or does any of that makes sense to you? The pelicans aren't gonna play hold on. We're going to take the sanctions to preserve your long term future. Even though it's not going to be with us. Like that doesn't make any sense. I don't know if they're going to take the bullet for a hundred thousand dollars for each game and he wants to play, but they won't let me play. Yeah. Even though. They're going to say, he's not healthy. And then he's going to say he wants to play. And this is a mess. This is a mass because his representation went public thinking that they could bully the pelicans into trading him. And the pelican said no we don't need to now. And by the way, Boston would give us a better deal than you guys. Would you know, would we rather have Jason Tatum or Kyle Kuzma is much as I love Kuzina. You're probably taking Jason Tatum and you're going to get draft picks. Yes. For t-. If you're a big pelicans fan, and you had bought tickets in advance, and this is all going on. And they're benching him, and he's considered healthy. Are you do you wanna see Anthony Davis at this point, you bum that you're not seeing when you spend all this money or good rinse? He doesn't wanna play there. I don't think I'm gonna buy tickets to watch the pelicans play fantasy Davis's and playing nice little roster. But if you're a true pelican fan you see a strategy and him getting injured. Kills his trade value. So true. The true. Pelican van's the old school pelican, okay? Let's say let's put it. The injury thing aside, unless he loses a leg or an arm or something rarely have it rarely happens in the NBA. But I would still want to see Anthony Davis out there. I would still see him play. You look at the Knicks, and you go, okay, I'm fine with them being bad. I mean, that's that's more of an organizational tanking, but you're used to that with the Knicks. You know, they traded porzingas they they don't want to win this year. They have no interest in winning this year. But as a fan, they still fill that building. And you know, what they're trying to do. So you're tanking for Zion. And so there's at least a picture there. That you go. Okay. I see what they're what they're trying to do. So you're fine with that. With the pelicans. I'd still wanna see Anthony Davis out there. All right. We'll take a break. We'll bano. Join us coming up. We'll settle on a poll question here. A lot of things to talk about Bryce Harper. Still unsigned Machado still unsigned. What is the best for baseball for these guys where they should go. What's the best for the NFL where Cuyler Murray should go? What's the best for the NBA where Zion Williamson should go? Well, have some fun with that coming up twenty one after the hour. This is the Dan Patrick show. Okay. 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I think so, but if you ask me to put a, you know, a number of confidence on that is going to be very low. I mean, part of it is that the two teams that Lakers are chasing. Absolutely love. Oh, the the Lakers clippers chains you, you know, you you don't have much those two franchises in their fan bases. Just hate the Lakers would like nothing more than to eliminate them specifically. So that's going to be quite a climb. I mean, I think they start off with these five Rogan's, they they gotta go like three and two just to about fall. So far back that they're they're they're looking at too much to overcome. But didn't they preach patience at the beginning of the season? And then all of a sudden that changed when they got it felt like they were getting nervous. And then they decide that they're going to go all in on Anthony Davis. And now, you're sort of left with you know, the aftershocks here, and it feels like kind of it's a unsteady locker room. I got LeBron who might not be in shape. I got Luke Walton on the hot seat there. And I got a bunch of young kids going when do we get not if we get traded? But when we get traded well now, well, yes to answer your question. They did preach patients. And I thought, you know. The injury chains history. Lebron chains all missing eighteen games. They were they were in fourth place in the west, Dan when the Brown went out, and LeBron's never missed his kind of time. So we go back and look at those eighteen games fifteen of them with LeBron the lineup. What are we looking at? We're not looking at them out in tenth place now. So I think the panic came because they sell out, and I I don't think the need for the panic. I'm not one of those people who thinks that the supporting cast is inadequate for everything. If you can't tell me that that if playing with if Ingram and Kuzina. Let's take ball out of the country's four seconds. Now, he's heard, but if you put those guys in the line of LeBron for eighteen more games, you can't tell them that better. I look at that lineup. And I think you know, what they're probably close to his good. If not as good as the Cleveland cast of characters that LeBron one with last year. Okay. They. Got him. That's the one place where you look at it and say, okay, it's upgrade Cleveland over this of. Yes, they're young. But they knew that going in. I so I'm with you on that, you know, this going in and to me LeBron is the one who I dunno seems like he was stunned by this. And he he played against these guys. He knew what they were. So I to me there's a lot of I dunno created drama as as as are different. Mark Jackson, say fake hustle. Fake drama. I I just I I don't I don't really understand why. Well, I guess the injuries. Why the injury the missing eighteen games is why the story, you know, flipped itself. You saw him at the all star game all star weekend. I thought he looked and I was trying to be polite politically correct yesterday. He he looked heavier. He looked like he was about ten or fifteen pounds. He just doesn't look like the Bron who started the season or maybe even last season. Did you notice many built more like Zion Williamson now, I didn't notice that as much as he's tired? Okay. I don't mean tired from this. He's tired. You know, he talked about remember the post game chat after the most recent games. Like there's play. They said I just gotta get away from this for while. It sounds like those previous couple, you know, he would go out of south beach and disappear for he can't do anything. Of that. And so to me, the I don't know what I noticed when I'm looking at them is okay. If he is he energized to the point where this is something he can do I tell you. I said this week or so ago, I meant it if I'm if I'm the all those young Lakers, and I had to go through what I had to go through here all this trade stuff and Anthony Davis, and when I get it off, and they're five packages that do Orleans pelicans could take and we're in all of them, I dealing with Brian and say, hey, icon lead us lead us we've seen you take nothing teams not just to the playoffs. But the finals lead us, you know, they are I think they are doing enough. But every at every turn, it's it's it's you know, how inadequate they are. I'm not saying that they can be golden say they can't. But I you know, I I look at the. The west also has some flawed situations of their Portland is I they may have gotten better with some of these acquisitions, I don't know. The Portland's good enough to win a couple of rounds in the playoffs. Denver's to a neophyte team is terrific as half as they have. I'm not sure they're ready for that. Either. I mean, this the Lakers are this group of Lakers as constituted ought to be better. And I think they I I really think they sixteen and ten when the Brown went out that, you know, him being out as long as he was out that to me, Dan is something that I don't know. I'm not gonna say it didn't need to happen because I'm not one of the questions injuries. I just don't. But that's me is way put them in this position talking to Michael wilbon, pardon the interruption co host joining us, Dan Patrick show, mostly wondering about this. And I'm big into body language, and I noticed this at the all star game in the shoot arounds. It felt like everybody had a buddy. Lebron didn't have a buddy. And I I wonder he knows the clock is ticking. And he's got to get somebody in at least one star in this off season if not to and who are those one or two stars going to be now, you sound like you believe in the Kevin Durant theory, Dan that nobody wants to play with the broad. I, you know, it's interesting. I don't think it has to be any specific person. We'll look I love Anthony Davis, and I'm predisposed to liking them. Anyway, being Chicago guy as I am. I I love empty day was I'm not trade the whole team for him. I mean, this is not like this is not like trading for Kareem in nineteen seventy whatever for whenever the Lakers traded with the bucks. This. This isn't that? I mean, everybody Davis is he's a wonderful player. A whole team worth. And so I don't know. I don't know who they got going to be. I do I do feel this way though. I know the narrative is you know switched and who's gonna play with LeBron. Maybe people don't wanna play with him. I believe that enough people will wanna play with the Brown. It's gonna have to take place. Obviously this summer, they couldn't do it for the trade deadline, and I think we should have known that it was going to be really difficult to pull off a mega trade at the deadline. And I realized that you're Rich Paul was trying to you know, make that happen, but putting public pressure on on New Orleans to do it. But there's a lot of free guys. And they and even if they don't Dan even if they're scared of playing with abroad, even if there's some nervousness about that if the Lakers, that's the place it warm weather cities. That's where guys go California's where guys are going to want to go. What combination? I don't know. But that's what Magic Johnson LeBron have to get done as soon as they're. Eliminated from the season whenever that is. Would you rather have Anthony Davis or Klay Thompson on the Lakers? I, you know, I if you if you told me, I could just add Klay Thompson and keep some of the other parts, I might do that Klay Thompson and somebody else if that's your who somebody else would be necessarily. But suppose if somebody else was boogie cousins. I mean, you it doesn't have to be direct kyri or Anthony Davis. I I don't believe that the okay. Those guys are great. They're all great. They have three championships between them. So I if it was Klay Thompson, and and that allowed me still to quit Thompson right now. Then it sounds like you, and I agree on this. I just think he's I think he's maybe the most underrated player in the league the last three years. 'cause people started lifting all the golden say players, and they start putting Klay Thompson like fourth. I'm like hold on. I mean, I I realize you're definitely gonna put them behind rant. And and Steph, easy Klay. Thompson is a hell of a player. I'm like you if they had him and giving that specific skill set. I might rather have him in combination with somebody else if you could place Zion Williamson as the Commissioner for the for the good of the league. Where would you place him? Well, everybody wants me to say New York the league functions just fine with the Knicks being dog. The league is function just fine with the Knicks beat the dog for most of the last twenty three years. So I'm not necessarily going to say New York. I got my own bias. You know, I'd love to see him in Chicago. I'd love to see him. You know, go to a place where there's been a little more not not much more recent success, but something out in the conference finals. But, but but in terms of like, the bad teams the teams that we know we're going to be in the lottery or somebody's there's someplace in there, just irresistible. Is there a small market situation? I don't I don't know. I mean, I if he goes if he goes to the Knicks. They're not going to be upset 'cause the Knicks are so bad. It's warranted. Here's where I don't wanna see him. I don't wanna see him in Cleveland. Because Cleveland's had four overall number one, and they don't have any of them. The Brian Tyree Wiggins and the kid from Vegas, but what do you is? There a domino effect that could happen. Let's say the Knicks win the lottery, right? Then all of a sudden if you're kyri, and or Kevin Durant. Do you? Then does that make get a little more entice out more? Okay. Lot more. It's a lot more. Yeah. I mean, you know, it's interesting to be Charlotte this past weekend. And just you know, the previous week I was in southern California to the studio things also get a chance to go couple of games. And you know, the reason this whole thing popped up during the Anthony Davis crazy talk was that players and coaches in agents and people in the NBA, Dan believe a lot of them. And helped fuel the fire about who's going to New York. All the the Kevin Durant entire e talk that stuff. Didn't it wasn't just like media generated that was it was it was generated in the dissemination came through us. But, but there there are people talking openly about it, which means where they get it. And you know, what a gossip lead the NBA is much more. So to be than the other leaks the NBA thrives on that doesn't mean that everything is true. No, it doesn't. But it does mean that this talk was generated from people who have conversations who are on the court and in locker rooms in proximity to those guys. Well, I said the last time you were on that Katie was not going to LA because he doesn't want. He he thinks he's the best player in the game. And he might be the best player in the game. He doesn't wanna help LeBron's legacy. And that's why I said that I think he's done with Golden State. He doesn't want to be the villain. He ruined basketball for. Few years. He can go to New York, maybe kyri his and I go back to when I went to the premiere of uncle, drew. D came in. And he sat right behind us because he's best friends with Kyrie Irving. He's not even in the movie, and he went through the premier, Mike. Like appearances. He keeps them up. I listen the thing that I've heard Dan is just again from people who share court space and time, and you know, it could be you know, opponents aren't opponents anymore. These guys don't hate each other by large just the opposite. They is that both of them the kyri and Kevin. I'm sure you've talked about this in previous shows that they don't feel that the championships. They won are there's belong to them primarily. And that's what that's what the preoccupation with doing it somewhere else is winning somewhere else because that would be their championship. So you know, there's a lot of time. I I don't spend a lotta time insisting I know what the, you know. It's like looking at poll numbers in August. And trying to tell me, you know, what's going to happen member fourth. I mean, I, you know, I I don't necessarily believe in that. But I but there's so much smoke. There's so much and I like you you start thinking. Okay, wh-. What is it that? These guys are thinking, I know other players are thinking about this. So so do you think there's a cold envelope? Reference for the yesteryear. They're cold envelope. Dan. Is there something that, you know, you're gonna be in that Knicks jersey lie on that is Mike. I was at that lottery. I know you were I was at that lottery. I covered that draft. And I just remember everybody was like he's got to go to the Knicks. He's got to go to the Knicks. And all of a sudden, Patrick Ewing goes to the Knicks. And then I and I've been around the Commissioner Commissioner stern do not go there with the Commissioner or I don't even joke about not yoga. I know we go dry. Yeah. You just like, you know, envelope. You know, feels a little cold. And then he'll give you the cold shoulder. There was something like that. Where do you want to see him Durant? No zion. I'd like to see him in New York. I not that that owner deserves. He absolutely does not deserve. But it I just wanna see the garden come back because I I know what it was. And there's a whole there's like two generations that don't even know what it was like. Yeah. And and if you had the the seismic shift of the NBA would be New York Philly in Boston again, and you would still have Golden State, and maybe the Lakers a little bit. But you'd almost be coming back to the to the seventies and eighties where you had these teams that were in contention. And and if if I could get Zion in New York because I would tune in to watch Zion play. Yeah, we're gonna walk. But we're gonna watch him almost just almost no matter where he goes. I just thought by the way about the Lakers with the combination supposedly when he gets a bias Harrison Klay Thompson. Okay. So there's no blockbuster. The news is less than blockbuster. Right. It's suppose they put those guys in the lineup. And they they and they could still trade a couple of pieces because they'd have still four guys trade. I mean, they they have they have crazy flexibility still I don't think you have to go and have empty Davis. If you're the Lakers to get back in. I mean, serious contention given what we've seen. I know. The bronze, you know, be older. But yeah, but if you have if you have the garden that look I was I was there. I I loved it. My team always took the Knicks four times four times, Michael. And by the way, don't think when people have Jordan about his career life highlights, and they mentioned different dunks or just championship or, you know, Utah last shot that the people don't understand, and I haven't even asking this lately. But one of the great highlights is not the best giving his feel his love of the garden and playing there. Just taking out the Knicks four times, I think with three different coaches, he took Van Gundy out, he took Riley out. I don't know. Nelly out even he took out and remember every single one of them every single one of them. Yeah. Hey, tell Tony. We settle. 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1. "Just About Superman | What If? The Len Bias Story

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1. "Just About Superman | What If? The Len Bias Story

"I just had this premonition. This intuit hypnonist bad. Something was going to happen In one thousand nine hundred five doctoral in east bias and her husband. James were content. Their sons j. Eric and their daughter shower all healthy and living at home and then there was the oldest son len. On top of the world lynn was thriving a six foot. Eight senior forward at the university of maryland. He was perhaps the best college basketball player in the country. A powerful athlete with a perfect jumper poised for nba superstardom. His athleticism drew frequent. Comparisons to another young star already in the league michael jordan and for lanese. Our son's rise was incredible to watch seeing him as a player and is a person on the brink of fulfilling his dream. It was so exciting to go out to coldfield house and to see him play and then just to see him mature in his game and to the end when he was a powerhouse. It was actually unbelievable. I i could not believe that. It was like a dream. It really was but still throughout her son senior season and the back of her mind. Lenny's help that sense of unease. Her son at entered a world of infinite possibility he had fame he was near riches and more important. We wither on the basketball. Quarter off it. He exuded joy table would say oh. I know you're so excited about your son. And i i can remember telling someone it's like you can see a goal rang but you don't think you're going to be able to touch it. It just didn't feel like it was going to happen to me and it wasn't that it was too good to be true. It was something weightier down in me. That was the truth that what looks like is going to happen. That's not going to take place. So while she experienced these moments of pride watching her son do with few people on earth could do on a basketball court. She felt this way. I knew something was gonna happen. And i i was just so sad. It was something in me telling me something coming. Something is coming. I knew was coming. Local success story took a tragic turn this morning. America's success story has ended in tragedy with his sudden death. The age of twenty. Two len bias. Come a long way and was about to reach new heights when suddenly tragically ended once again. Twenty two year old lamb bias star forward from the university of maryland. Basketball team is now dead. From the wringer podcast network. This is what if the limb bias story. I'm your host jordan ritter con biases death on june nineteenth. Nineteen ninety-six is one of the defining. Sports stories of the eighties. Grew up in. Maryland goes to his hometown school and becomes a sensation his drafted by the boston. Celtics second overall in nineteen eighty six set to join a team. That was already one of the best. Nba his the night. After the draft he celebrates with some friends does lines of cocaine. He collapses convulses with seizures. And the next morning at twenty two years old he dies. Lynn bias represents so many things. To so many people for marylanders he represents a homegrown star the very best of their state for bostonians. He represents the possibility of extending their dynasty another decade for college hoops fans of a certain generation. He's one of the greatest talents they ever saw for that same generation of nba fans by his the foil. Michael jordan never had and that's just on the basketball court vices death reverberated far beyond the world of sports. His death poured gasoline on the national panic around cocaine. Democrats and republicans race. Each other to pass harsh laws nominally at least in biases memory and as a result thousands of people a hugely disproportionate number of them black. Spend years in prison unjustly. His life was extraordinary. His death was seismic and his legacy. It's still impacts the world of sports politics and culture today thirty five years later but no matter how grande has public legacy for loonies bias linens first and foremost her son as i spent time. Reexamining his impacts. I kept coming back to his mother's words. I am a woman of faith. And i believe that sometimes you can have dreams than feelings and it's like warnings up. You know what's going to come. I don't know how to explain it that the listeners will understand. But it's more spiritual for me in terms of what i was feeling. It was almost like a preparation because i grieved eighteen months before lens. Death even in the face of incredible grief when he's remained calm steady but so much of the world reacted to lin's death with anger and confusion and the months that followed the media and the public felt. This need to point to something or someone to blame for biases death. The tragedy fell to massive and shattering to be left unexplained. Maybe some people thought in the aftermath this was by his fault for doing coke or maybe it was a classic case of a good kid getting caught up with the wrong crowd and some mines. The university of maryland failed bias. An others blame lay with the drug culture that local and federal governments that allowed the spiral out of control by his death reverberated throughout his family through professional basketball and all higher education through the ncaa and the justice system history made its way in the church pulpits and into the halls of congress. It's been thirty. Five years and lenses. Still stunned by just how much her son's story means. I really didn't know who land was until he died. I knew that he was my son. We went to his games and people like him and it was a lot of media around him but until his death. I just saw him impacting. Prince george's county maryland. Where we live washington. Dc the dmz the acc like that but this man made impact around the world will be right back before he was a phenom bias. Arrived at maryland is just another promising recruits eager to earn his place on the floor and for a while he couldn't. I made a mistake back in those days. You didn't play freshman that's drizzle. He's a legend in maryland and he was the terrapins coach when bias arrived on campus from a mile and a half away in northwestern. High school in nineteen eighty-two if you start afresh for no play freshman you go lose a couple games because you're playing him you know. I guess just experiences back then. Nobody played freshman mice. I know i didn't start. Leonard is a fresh which i should have. That was mistake on my part soon enough. Though bias forced his way onto the court he was the most talented player on maryland's roster even as a teenager. He looked like a fully grown man. Fiqh chiseled physical enough to challenge any upperclassmen in the paint but he also had a ballot it kind of elegance to him a soft touch on the jumper a dexterity to finish with either hand when point guard kief gatlin joined maryland's roster in nineteen eighty three. He saw all of this on full display. She had something that was god. Gifted talent where you know athleticism was off the chart. He had sweet jump shot for him to be six eight so it was just like when he elevated issued his jump shot. You couldn't get to athletically. He could fly over the ram. Could you know a very graceful athlete left. He knew what kind of talent bias had. Well as physical ability was unbelievable. You know what i mean. It was only athlete and merlin when he was a bench. Press one hundred pounds. I mean he was wrong. It was know could about it a gym. He dumped over anyone anywhere. Anytime he damn. Well pleased physical dunking forwards. you've seen blake griffin dominique. Wilkins kemp fluid and forceful vicious. But smooth think that and when he stepped away from the basket he could launch from anywhere and he had this feathery soft touch whether from ten feet or twenty five. Espn scott van pelt. Who was a maryland. Student back then remembers watching bias physically. He looked different than everyone else. It was a bit like lebron james. Just he was thinner but his upper body shoulders. Were like this. Greek god is waste like thirty inches he would dunk on your head and it was allieu allieu value and you could allieu doing from anywhere because he could go get it so i mean it was just obvious physicality that was just different from anyone else really. I think it's fair to say of that era then pelton. Espn colleague michael. Wilpon covered maryland for the washington. Post at the time was powered explosion in him. That allowed him to throw down dunks. That would have created a dominating wilkins like sensation. But in reporting this podcast honestly nothing got people more excited than talking about bias jump shot. Here's lefty jump. Shot and molly dunham glassman. Who covered maryland for the baltimore. Evening sun the effortlessness and the hike heave where he went straight up. I mean he was floated. Scott impel did his best to describe the experience of watching bias. Rise and shoot. He had the most perfect jump. Shot you've ever seen. Is he six aid but he jumped straight up and down always on balance and it was like he jumped three and a half feet off the ground and let go of it like watch the ball and it goes through the net. Like i'm not kidding. It feels like it goes through the neck differ because it always would like this perfect rotation and art and he was already three feet off the ground to start with when will talks about the jumper. He sounds like he needs a cigarette. It was beautiful. I i see my head look. You asked me about rosa. I answer jump shot at a time when six kids didn't really necessarily have jump shots. Six six kids didn't necessarily have jordan. Didn't have one has similar stage and north carolina but by his hat is the most picturesque jump shot. I think i've ever seen to this day so on the floor. He was incredible in off it. He was beloved. He's been pell. leonard. Was i mean the biggest person on campus and i knew him enough that he give me a nodar. Gimme would stop by some student. Union and as a kid in ellicott hall you float back to the dorm because leonard who was the big man on campus. Fuck that excuse my language. He was the man on campus. Not the big man. He was the in capital letters. Man on campus bias could be quiet and reserved in some settings. But his teammate. For riddick lewis says. He relished his status at maryland. I mean i think you enjoyed it. I think everybody enjoys to extent in a way. Now you can walk out. Somebody's leonard on recognize. You always nice to everyone. I never saw him cheat. Anyone mean never saw pressing for other bags when people ask autograph all the time you know you never saw him. Brush anybody off. He was never rude to him. You know people love them there are few inflection points in biases rise to stardom for molly a game against michael jordan north carolina during biases sophomore year stands out a game whereby seemed like more than just an incandescent talent where he seemed like a leader. You could see him as a sophomore. Take that team as his own and really take command of that team in the huddle. You could see it. His will to win really started to show that sophomore year. The skills had always been there. The body the athleticism the shooting stroke but now as confidence was starting to catch up molly saw it again and biases sophomore year at the acc tournament. He scored twenty six points in the title. Game win over duke and was named tournament. Mvp and lenny just took that team on his shoulders and ran with that entire tournament. Especially the final game i he was just phenomenal. Whose field goal percentage his rebounding. That was what really was starting to come around is sophomore years inside game. And that's when you could tell. He was destined for great things by his junior year. Bias was in full command on the floor. He saw feel key. I'm a good player. I can't be dominant and the things that i do. Here's derek lewis again. And he was starting to sail. Gay had to worry about concern about. Who's playing who playing who's guarding me. And you can see confident by senior year buys. It emerged as perhaps the best player in the country. He can do anything you wanted anywhere. On the core against any opponent the numbers twenty three points and seven rebounds on fifty four percent shooting he led the acc in scoring and was named conference player of the year but the stats only tele fraction of the story by had to be seen to be believed. And sometimes that's what. His teammates did is just watching. Sometimes i know supposed to be doing something. Watching amanda was on the college level for bias. The game just seemed so simple. We saw teams triple team. The whole season they still averaged twenty plus points a game one play by the same play a ho season and nobody can stop it and we rented play pull up the highlight so that maryland season. And you'll see it the same play over and over again. Double swing on the block when you run off to spain but the bottom popout give the ball and you just get out of the way land by us abandon bullshit off the ball at bay fly chopper and or you can color it to. He is as good a baseline shooter. Zeros may be at all a basketball. Keith gatlin was the team's point guard and he made it his mission to know everything about biases game a new once. You got the ball in his sweet spot. That was a fifteen feet in in or on the block. He can shoot a turnaround jump. Shot he ca- lobs a lot of people don't know limb was a powder if he didn't get the ball in his spots in a lot of paladin came toward me. Like if you go and you give me the ball here here or here so we joked about it a lot but we met so well when he got behind the defense he wanted the law. A new record love anytime sometime. I do it from half court because he was such a graceful athlete. And i knew if he didn't touch the ball three or four times down he would power so off. He was such a great player to his credit. He had to touch it. He knows survey suitable all the time but he just had to touch it. If feel lucky was part of it. This was a different era of college. Basketball back then. The nba wasn't the cultural forces today. David stern was still early in his tenure. Magic johnson and larry bird were national superstars but not global stars. Michael jordan was becoming michael jordan but his bowl. Seems we're still nowhere near contention not yet and in college players typically stayed for years fans really got to know these guys today the six-man man on an nba title. Contender is more famous than the biggest college star back. Then players like bias were more famous than the vast majority of pros usa. The boston globe chat fen remembers. It was the height of college basketball to me the mid eighties. The biggest and the acc and that stretch from like eighty to eighty six. The most important thing was it built up over years. You had rivalries and not just among schools the towns but among the players guy stayed I i'm not gonna laments zion williamson leaving duke after a year is the right thing to do but back in those days. Queuing was georgetown for four years. Chris mullin was the saint john for four years. You anticipated seeing those guys. Play each other not over the course of a season but over the course of four years. And that's just incredibly different from what we have now and allow the interest to build and build and build covering college basketball around dc in the early to mid eighties. Mike wilpon was surrounded by stars. There was ewing at georgetown. David robinson navy and ralph sampson virginia. Me right now. If i could recreate it and i was the first night opening night. All these guys were in town. They were all clammed. Same time who would i go and see. I go see les biased. Didn't disappoint he. Famously dropped forty one points and a to duke. His senior year. In a few weeks later he played another game. They're really elevated biased. At that level of national superstardom unranked maryland versus number one north carolina down in chapel hill of number one ranked north carolina crowd of more than twenty. Two thousand is not handle. Watch the tar heels. Take on the maryland terrapins. Michael jordan was gone. But the he'll still had brad dory who would go on to be the number one overall pick and make five nba all-star teams and they had kennedy smith a future. Nba champion and now even more famous as a t and t broadcaster and they were playing their brand new gorgeous arena. The dean dome named after their legendary coach. Dean smith was a loaded team. Derek lewis again always always go in one to win a game. We knew that the odds was high for maryland. The game did not start off well. Carolina got big by up to fifteen points in the second half but kief gatlin remember how the turps started cutting it down possession after possession stop after. Stop recap chipping at it seven added. The whole team was playing their asses off. What if it wasn't for bias. Things would have ended differently. Lynn was incredible. If it would have been three at that particular time he might have had fifty. I think he like thirty five or thirty six quit. He was incredible and into just see how the crowd was like asta against us but so much admiration form. They were just like. I can't believe what i'm saying. The tar heels threw everything at him. He tried four different players and seven footers nobody and again the teams double and triple team him all season and then there was this moment late in the second half the became the singular play vices career maryland. Set up in a half court set back had the ball at the top of the key. Any through it's a bias on the left wing bias. Carolina's warned martin took it out from under the net and through a quick inbounds. Pass to kenny smith. And then omar is stolen before smith could even turn in one motion. He went up and he threw down a reverse. Dunk fluid powerful. It happened in the blink of an eye here. It was only a five point game. But even when you re watch it you can see. This was the moment. Lynn bias squashed carolina's hopes. Eventually the game went to overtime and maryland pulled away to win seventy seven seventy two handing carolina their first ever loss at the dean dome. Here's lefty players. After the game told him. I said look. Y'all bring your grandchildren back game. Wash north carolina play. And you can tell us look weak first defeat on these guys pin we did it. Always be in history right. Leonard played great day game or play great and like. I say that the gave me play like superman was just about superman. So all of this the incredible athleticism the unbridled starpower the dominance of the acc. It evokes a natural comparison a comparison to someone by played against earlier in his college career on that very same campus. A lot of people compare him say. Who's the best buyers michael jordan. Maybe it seems preposterous. Since jordan is the best player ever but at the time jordan was still a rising star and by seem to be just a couple years behind him but on the same kind of trajectory even broaching the topic and feel like a sacrilege. but wilpon who's from chicago says it's a worthwhile conversation is completely merited completely. We knew at the time it wasn't like we get for lenny. Drastically die before making a comparison. He points to an off site quote by duke coach. Mike chef ski. She said yeah. There are two players who defined at the highest level of talent my time in the acc michael jordan and len bias. Now we'll spend some time later on in the series teaching out what buys his nba career could have looked like but for now just know that there was a moment where bias jordan felt like equals. Here's been pal. There's a black and white somewhat out of focus picture on the wall in my basement of limbaugh rising up to shoot michael jordan's hand extended and there's a grainy youtube video of those two point game coalfield house that i would encourage you to watch because it's it's a different era that the style of play but the talent of leonard and michael is so obvious it just jumps out of your computer screen. It's natural to imagine what a rivalry between bias in jordan could have looked like in the nba by nineteen eighty-six jordan was establishing himself as the league's next great superstar by seemed on track to join him as the draft approach to fill q. Is destined for one team. The boston celtics heat attended a celtics camp after his junior year and he loved it. The celtics were enamored of bias to now ordinarily. The reigning nba champions wouldn't have had a chance at a top prospect bias but boston had made a trade in nineteen eighty-four four for seattle's first round pick which turned into the second overall pick and eighty six so a team that already had larry bird kevin mchale robert parish and bill walton adding star rookie. Who could extend their dynasty. It almost seemed unfair. Here's a taste of what boston media members told their city was feeling at the time larry bird did say that he was really excited about having by on the team. And you visualize in your head bird. Throwing no look passes device for those ferocious dogs that you see on all the maryland highlights and you're like wow boston's about the they're about to go back to back. I don't think it was hyperbole to say that len bias was going to be something special. I he had all the tools to be a great player for a long time. He was going to be the bridge. So on june seventeenth nineteen eighty six bison. His father flew up to new york. The draft wasn't the big production that it is now. It was in the afternoon. Not primetime. college coaches didn't come in while players wore nice suits. It was nothing like the game of fashion oneupmanship. That happens today. Still for the players there. It was one of the defining moments of their lives. Lynn was excited. Everyone was excited. The boston celtics select len bias at university of he walked onstage. He shook david stearns hands and he smiled. Consider myself lucky by more blessed. Have an opportunity to play here. Redraft the here. I think is a different in the south east bias. Wasn't there that day. She stayed home back in maryland watching the draft with our other children. We were excited that day. We were just thrilled. I mean i can't even explain it. It's like is this really happening and for me. It was unbelievable that it was happening to us. Because these types of things happen to other people and yet that nagging dread that premonition that was still there that knowing bad feeling was there in the back linden return home until the next day he brought back sneakers and swag for his siblings who lanista though was out at a meeting when he arrived by the time. Timeline he's got back home. When had gone out back over to campus to celebrate with his friends to bask in the excitement of achieving his dream the fact is i never saw land after he returned from the draft. When i saw him again he was in the hospital. Did this season on. What if oshawa is it. Leonard buyers said. I can't tell you that they just wanna the over here come over. You'll know anything that you don't know what happened. What what the hell happened was hitting the what was it. Someone had to pay plant simple. someone had defect. There was a reckoning. it's necessary. I mean if something like that happened. I think everyone asks themselves. What role did we plan allowing this to happen. Wanted to greatest allies told about cocaine. Well did it. Didn't have and that you mother woman alive. If you could support it will have the city itself. Just it wasn't morning. It was a morning for someone they never met. There were morning for the child. They had for the star that they're never going to see blossom. What if the lynn bias story is written in reported by me jordan. Ritter con our producers are no model a poppy wagner hannah beal in isaac lee with production assistance by isaiah blakely music and sound design by kely story. Editing by mallory ruben. Copy editing by. 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