20 Episode results for "Michael Thompson"
Ep. 39 - Self Care
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Ep. 163 - Letters for Michael Thompson and an update on Parchman Prison
"We're now just six days away from the family and attorneys of Michael Thompson submitting a new application and petition petition for his clemency and yesterday over ten thousand of you went to free Michael Thompson Dot Com and wrote a letter on behalf of Michael Thompson and I am so so grateful but we need ten thousand mortgage to do it today tomorrow and the next day our goal is to get somewhere close to a hundred thousand letters from Michael to the desk of Gretchen and Whitmer the governor of Michigan. So if you already know everything about the case stop right now go to free Michael Thompson Dot Com if not wanna break some things down about his case and talk some more about some horrible things going on Parchman prison in Mississippi this is Shaun King. And you're listening listening to the the the breakdown the breakdown of a breakdown. Yeah so I just checked and yesterday ten thousand two hundred. I'm forty six of you. Went to free Michael Thompson. Dot Com filled out the form and sent in a letter to the governor of Michigan Gretchen Gretchen Whitmer and I am grateful for all ten thousand two hundred and forty six of you but I do have some advice. If you've already filled it out you don't have to do it again. Okay that's is fine but for everybody who has not yet filled out this form from Michael Thompson. When you go to free Michael Thompson Dot Com and you see The form we have some suggested information in the little letterbox. You can send that. That's better than nothing but I would much rather you put in your own information your own thoughts and ideas why you think he needs to be free on why you think he spent enough time in prison so feel free to just put in your name and information hit send but I'm telling you there's nothing more impactful than you writing your own information from your own heart. Here's the thing I think. For most of modern American history we have looked at mass incarceration and all of its tentacles and all of the expressions of its problems we've looked at it and felt l.. Like wow that's horrible. Somebody needs to fix that and I mean I guess somebody does need to fix exit but what I need us to pivot from that idea of kind of pointing away from ourselves. We need to fix it. We are that somebody we we. We have to put in the organizing work. Organizing Energy and effort. We have to have the ideas. And the concept's zips to address the problems of mass incarceration and here's the thing over. The course of any given year in the United States over over ten million people are incarcerated. We often hear a number of about two and a half million. What that means is that at any given day about two and and a half million people are in jail today jail a prison but the truth is over the course of one calendar year that number balloons to nearly ten million people which is so much more than any country in the world? And if you've ever heard me when I travel and speak I just spoke in Lake Forest Illinois on King Day. I broke this down for the students and staff. The United States doesn't just incarcerate more people than any country in the world. It's more people than any country in the history of the world and just as it took actually early hundreds of years to build this system to run this system to fund this system it will take equal energy. I don't necessarily mean hundreds of years but as much energy and thought and effort it will take that much energy to deconstruct it to tear it down piece by piece brick by brick system by system Injustice by injustice. And what's happened to Michael Thompson is a grave injustice in so many ways it is a cruel and unusual punishment punishment this notion that a thirty five year old man makes a weed sale to an undercover informant comment which I have a problem with in general. Listen why are you creating. Why is the government creating scenarios for people to buy or sell drugs? It's it's foolishness in fact even when we dig into these so called informant. Drug deals does in drug buys. They are almost exclusively done in black and brown communities in particular done exclusively in poor communities communities. You're not gonNA find them doing. These undercover drug deals to celebrities in. Hollywood you're not gonNA find them doing these drug deals in Beverly Hills or in some rich neighborhood here in New York where I live. They don't do those they don't do those things. Although every single study statistic shows us that white people use all drugs and smoke weed at or at higher levels either at the same level or higher levels than African Americans and other people of color yet the punishment the stings the the the crackdowns the the undercover operations are almost exclusively in poor and black and brown communities. You Know Cynthia Nixon who who ran for governor Just two years ago in New York. She said it brilliantly and and I have to come back to it all the time you know. She did a video saying you know as Governor Governor she would immediately legalize weed and expunge every every single conviction in record and she said Hey the truth roof is and she's a middle aged white woman. She was one of the stars of sex in the city and she said the truth is we'd has always been legal for me. It's always been legal for white people in New York Mark. That's what she said. She said functionally legal. She's eighty there was no law that said it was legal for white people but she just knows she said she just knew I would never be caught lot for it because there was no punishment the punishment is always lucidly. MET It out against certain people and precluded from others. And that's what Michael Thompson experienced. They literally created a scenario. Send this man to prison. People are fussing. Assad people fussing on the Internet saying he was armed. No he wasn't. Don't make that up. Michael Thompson was not armed during this drug deal. That's that's a complete fabrication location. When people say that he was armed? I immediately know that you have actually looked at the facts of the case after they arrested Michael Michael Thompson for selling weed which God he's Sh- if he was going to go to prison he should have gone for a week a month. A year would have been crazy. I mean it's twenty five years after they arrested him they didn't they did did a raid on his house where they found an antique gun in use that antique done as has an excuse to enhance his sentence. And here we are. Maybe you saw in Virginia this week where we see scores scores and scores of people with automatic rifles armed with sniper rifles. Yet you find an antique gun in an in an adult's house and you WanNa send him away for the rest of his life. Give me a break. This this sentence is all about inequity all about injustice. That's why we need you to tell everybody you know to go to free Michael Thompson. ABSON DOT COM. You can go there right now. It's you can learn more about the case we break down the facts of the case you can go ahead and send your letter and tomorrow we are going to announce our phone dialing system. And we're going to need you to begin making phone calls from tomorrow. All the way through next Wednesday which is when the petition is going to be submitted and so We gotta push like somebody's life depends on in. Here's the truth. They basically gave Michael Thompson a life sentence. Let's be real. They intend on Michael Thompson. Dying in prison isn't that's their intent. They basically gave him what I call the slow death penalty where he has to spend a grueling. You you know a sixty years in prison for a bunch of nothing. Listen I have a quick word from our sponsor but then I have to give you an update. What's going on at Parchman penitentiary in Mississippi? Yesterday someone else died. That's five people in the past four days. He's ten people in just three weeks. It's an national emergency. What's going on a parchment? I'll be right back. 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What's going on at Parchman Richmond and many of us including myself are talking to men inside of Parchman were talking to families who have relatives inside of Parchman and I would go so far as to say that it is one of the biggest disasters in the American prison system in modern American in history? We've now had ten people die in. Mississippi's prisons in just the past. Three weeks eight have died there in Parchman. We are having people people that are being stabbed just in the past two days back to back. PARCHMAN has announced that they've had to suicides and people inside of the prisoners. Saying No. Those aren't suicides. Those are people being killed by guards and inmates inside died of Parchman and the officials in Parchman don't want to admit it and so they are saying. Oh a new suicide a new suicide a news a yet another suicide aside as if there is a like a suicide flu going on in parchment what we know is that the conditions there a horrible. We are hearing inmates. And not just here. And we're seeing. They are smuggling photos autos and videos from inside of the prison out where there is no heat. No air no clean water. I hate to be a graphic nick but there are entire cellblocks where the toilets are not working in. The men are being asked to p and to urinate in defecate in bags. It's getting everywhere. We see raw sewage and overflow on the floors the conditions conditions. I will say in addition to the horrible inhumane unsanitary conditions inside of the inside of the prison. The conditions are indeed conducive to suicide. Making you want to do anything to get out of the place and so whether these are suicides or not. We do know that just three weeks ago. There were a rash of killings there. I saw that these weren't suicides. I saw aw. I saw the images of the men who had been killed who had been stabbed to death. I saw blood all over the prison. And now that they they have basically gone out of their way at the prison to take away and to find as many of the phones and other things and I'm glad for those phones otherwise is we would not know how horrible the conditions are. But they've taken almost all of them. Away and prisoners are saying to their families. Listen these aren't suicides. The these are murderers happening inside of the prison. What I know is this is a national emergency? It's a national emergency that needs to be addressed somehow by the trump administration and we may say yeah right but listen if there's anything they can do to intervene they need to. He claims claims to care about criminal. Justice Reform Jared Kushner claims to care about criminal justice reform. Well Republicans control almost every every facet of the state government there so we need the state officials there to intervene. And it's just deeply disturbing and it gets. It's back to this idea that I've shared with you. That this nation has throwaway people. It will allow anything everything to happen to enact as if it does does not matter because they will one day. Convicted of a crime foolishness. It's a national emergency department. That just want you for yourself. Go to twitter just type in parchment in the search box so you can see the stories videos the photos for yourself a right break. Thank you bring the bring the bring the great. Thank you so much for listening to this episode of the breakdown. The have not already already subscribed please right. Now subscribe on Apple podcast or spotify or whatever podcast platform that you love to listen to the show on of course thank you so much to our podcast erectile Sandra to our senior producer Willis and our entire staff at the action. Pack including Adam. Chris Jen Zoe and so many others. That are working hard behind the scenes trying to help us. 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Ep. 162 - Free Michael Thompson
"Six months ago right here on the breakdown I told you the story of a man named Michael Thompson. He's now almost seventy years is old and has been in prison in Michigan for twenty five years for selling weed and get this weed is now legal in Michigan. We have an opportunity in just about a week to help set Michael Free. I need tall hands on deck. I'm dedicating the rest of the episodes this week to getting us. All on board. Have some action steps. I have some news news for you. Let's do this. You can go right now the free Michael Thompson Dot Com. And let's make sure we get this done this. This is Shaun King. You're listening to the the breakdown lane the breakdown break dabbling. Listen if you're just ready to join us so you can actually cut this episode off right now and just go to free Michael Thompson Dot Com free Michael Thompson Dot Com and we can just skip past everything I have to say and you can go there right now and I'm GonNa show you how you can write a letter to the governor of Michigan and we need you to do it. I have some text in there that you can use but I would actually rather whether you write your own text. So that she doesn't get a hundred thousand letters that look the exact same. I'd rather you write it in your own words so if you want I want to just go on to free Michael Thompson Dot Com. But if you want some more information you have to understand that Michael Cool Thompson has served a longer sentence in prison in Michigan than any other non violent violent offender. He has almost been there now for twenty six years twenty six years when I start to do do the math twenty. Six years ago I was. I was in eighth grade like twenty six years ago. I was a child I had not met my. I have five children. None of them were born twenty six years ago like the fact that he has spent so so long in prison for a nonviolent offense that is currently legal now now in Michigan is a crime in and of itself. Michael Thompson has never committed a violent act but he was charged with the violent crime just so that he could serve the longest sentence possible. Let me explain. He was arrested when he sold old. We'd to an undercover informant. But he was a labeled a violent offender which he was not he committed no violent crime he had had no gun on him when he sold the weed. He made no threats because when they came to arrest him they found a gun an antique gun in the House and therefore use that as an enhancement. We we see these in so-called so-called enhancements it's obviously it enhances nothing but the sentence we see these things. They call gang enhancements all over the country entry where somebody commits one crime. But then they make it a mega crime because they're in a gang database so because they found this antique gun in the House they then charged him with a violent crime which he did not commit a violent crime every scholar in in every attorney I know is already written letters and statements to this idea that he did not commit a violent crime but he's serving a sixty year years sentence because of trumped up charges. Michael has spent twenty five years in prison and during that time he has not not received a single infraction. Not One zero. Do you know how hard it is to be in prison for a month or a year and not get a single infraction. That would be like not getting a single parking ticket a single speeding ticket for twenty five years. That would be like not being late on a single. Oh Bill for three hundred sixty five days a year for twenty five years straight the guards in the prison Michael have written letters and testified on his behalf guards from the morning shift guards from the night shift staff from violence prevention programs. uh-huh that Michael helped start in. The prison have testified on his behalf staff from the school he has attended repeatedly the inside of the prison. They've testified on his behalf and in two thousand. Eighteen voters in Michigan chose was to legalize recreational weed and by the end of twenty twenty one in Michigan recreational weed is projected to be a one point. Five five billion dollar industry in Michigan. All while Michael is still in prison. Michael has literally spent can't almost half of his entire life in prison for selling we. That is now legal. It has cost the state of Michigan again. Millions of dollars just to keep him in prison and it's one of the most agree GIS cases of injustice going on in the entire country right now for man to spend his forties his fifties his sixties and beyond in prison for selling elling. We'd is abusive. It's wrong and it's unjust. Listen we have to have a quick word from our sponsor and then I need to give you some very specific details on the action steps for today. Never in a million years. Did I think I would be excited when we would get new sponsors or ads for the podcast but these ads and the sponsors really allow us to do what we do do. That's why we are excited to have a brand new sponsor of the breakdown podcast and it is hellofresh. And they are America's number one meal kit. Listen I've already ordered hellofresh recipes. We've used them for years. We got hellofresh when it first opened in great part because we are so incredibly busy in our house my wife and I both work in home out of the home. 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Ten Code Break Down Ten at checkout and get ten free meals. Thank you still take action on January twenty ninth this January twenty twenty nine of Twenty Twenty Michael's lawyer squad love and trust and have come to know and I've been able to talk on the phone with Michael many times his lawyers. There's going to be submitting a new petition of clemency. To Governor Gretchen Whitmer now. She is the brand new democratic governor of Michigan and I have heard that she is a great person. And so we are trusting Gretchen. Who said that she was going going to begin? Expunging the records for people with these types of convictions. WHO said that she was committed to justice reform? We are trusting Governor Gretchen Whitmer a Democrat. We are trusting her to keep her word. And here's the thing. Last time that Michael submitted a petition there was a Republican governor who just denied the petition with no feedback at all and we believe that we have a real chance for governor Whitmer to actually grant Michael his clemency. His lawyers have had to wait two years it. Even that is the foolish law. You have to wait two years. Between every time you submit a petition so Michael has just been there in prison waiting day in and day. How for this new chance with Democratic Governor to submit this petition in on January twenty ninth it will be two years to the day it will the the first day he can submit the new petition? And that's where you come in. We need each of you to write a letter to Governor Gretchen Whitmer. We have already built out the system. That is going to allow you to do that. You can go right now to free Michael Thompson. Thompson DOT COM. Go Right now to free Michael Thompson Dot Com and you can fill out a form that we have there and when you feel oh that form out it will send the letter directly to her also. You can email her directly which I would love for you to do if you go to Gretchen. That's g our this. Is Our email address Gretchen at Gretchen. WHITMER DOT COM. You can email her directly. Okay let me spell it out for you. Gretchen is G. R. E. T. C. H. E. N. at Gretchen Whitmer W. w. h. i. t. m. e. r.. Dot Com Gretchen at Gretchen WHITMER DOT COM. And last but not least we need you to call her office directly Komo. We're going to be setting up a dialer for you to call where I talk you through the process but this first number I'm giving not our dialers not set up yet. We'll talk about that tomorrow. Morrow you can call her office directly at five one seven three three five seven eight five eight and I'll tell you like I always tell you speak from your heart when you write the email right from your heart be specific be clear. Let her know that you've learned all about this case in that. You are begging pleading that they please grant. Michael Thomson Clemency so that he can spend some Tom of his life back out of prison. It's an abomination. And I want you to hear from me then. Michael is a sweet kind compassionate warm man who is desperate to get out of prison and we need you to put in the work. My friends go to free Michael Thompson. Dot Com. You'll learn all about his case there. We have all the details there. The Free Michael Thompson Dot Com. Learn all about his case. You can send a letter from their than email. Gretchen Gretchen. John Whitmer DOT com and then go ahead and make that phone call two five one seven three three five seven eight five eight all right. Let's do this. Let's help free Michael Thompson. Take Care Bye breaking the number. Bring them and bring the bring great thank you. So so much to willis singer producer. This podcast Sandra podcast director and to so many other people who not only helped make this episode possible but who are working right now. Virtually around the clock to help us free Michael Thompson. I want to give a major shoutout how to Adam to Chris to zoe to Jen who not only built our website. Free Michael Thompson Dot Com but have don everything they can to speak with his attorneys advocates and others to make sure that we nail this seven days to get everything we can get Inside what all of these letters to be a part of Michael's clemency petition. They submit to the Governor Gretchen. WHITMER and I'm so so grateful hateful for everybody. Who Split Their hard work into this? That only episode of this action. Step thank you so much I take care everybody taste.
Little Happier: An Answer from Childhood Expert Michael Thompson Reminds Me of the Value of Considering a Different Perspective.
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I love the work of michael thompson. Michael thompson is a consultant author and psychologist specializing in children and families who has worked with hundreds of schools. He's written many books. My favorite is best friends. Worst enemies understanding the lives of children. And i have to say this is one of the books which i most often recommend to other people. I also really love the book mom. They're teasing me. Helping your child solves social problems. Michael thompson is also well known for raising. Cain protecting the emotional life boys. The pressure child helping your child achieve success in school and in life and homesick and happy. How time away from parents can help a child grow. I have seen him speak in person a few times and side note it turns out that as a child for a while he went to the same school that my husband jamie attended and i learned he was kicked out for being too disruptive he was the class clown when he was a child. I'm michael thompson site. A section called advice where he posts questions from parents and writes his answers. years ago. i happened to read a particular. Qna exchange and for some reason. I've been drawn to return to reread it several times. A reader lightly edited version of the parents question and thompsons answer. I'll note that as you'll see from this exchange. They're discussing applying to college in a context where most children do apply to college. And of course that is not the case everywhere question. Our seager in highschool shows no interest in moving on to college or even getting a job. We have made it clear that no plans for further education means. He is making a choice to get a job and support himself without the benefits of a college degree. No value judgment there in theory. That should be fine but it seems to be leading nowhere and soon to booting them out and conflict. That doesn't seem healthy either. He's been tested at an extremely high q. And has always had a challenging education. Why is it so hard for boys today to launch. Take a moment to reflect on that question. What might you say that those parents. I thought about that myself. From their question. We get a sense of the parents and their perspective on the situation. They see their son's behavior is part of a society wide issue failure to launch. And ask why that might be. They see themselves. It seems to me as parents who have high expectations that their son will be a productive member of society but pride themselves on the fact that they're willing to let him make his own choices but what they don't want to see. Is this floundering aimless behavior. So that's their perspective on their son's behavior and on the issues involved and they ask the questions that seem important to them. What has been unforgettable to me. Is how michael thompson asks different questions and sees an entirely different set of issues at play answer. I'll have to ask you a lot of questions to figure out what is going on with your son. You describe him as a senior in high school. I presume this would be the spring of his senior year. Get he hasn't yet applied to college. Did he not have a college counselor. Did he ignore her. Did he willfully refuse to apply to college when all his classmates filling out their forms. If so that's unusual and makes me wonder whether he is depressed. Usually seniors apply to college even when they are uncertain about what they wanna do simply because all their classmates are doing it the peer pressure for going to college. It's pretty strong hard to resist. Is your son tired. Irritable abrasive or full of despair. Does he express feelings of futility or worthlessness. Do you have trouble. Communicating is so you might need to see a family therapist to sort out some issues before he can go off into the world. Sometimes very gifted students are completely board by school. You haven't told me whether your son has been a good student. He may have experienced himself as being smarter than most of his classmates and many of his teachers perhaps he doesn't look forward to college because school has been a huge disappointment to him. I have other questions. Is she in love and afraid to leave a girlfriend. Has he been an anxious boy. Has he ever spent much time away from home like to travel if not do you think. He is afraid of being homesick. I want to ask questions about his friendships. Whether he is trusting relationships with adults outside the family whether there are any tensions at home like an impending divorce that might cause him to want to stay home to keep an eye on things. All i can say in conclusion is that it doesn't sound to me as if your son is simply having trouble launching. There is something going on in his mind and it is serious. I find this question and answer. Exchange sobering and humbling. It reminds me of how easy it is to get locked into a single perspective and not see bigger issues and questions that are outside the frame. Through which i'm viewing a situation. Sometimes situation may seem to present one challenge. But it's actually something very different from what i assume. I'll post a link in the show notes. The work of michael thompson. I'm gretchen rubin and i hope this makes your week a little happier.
Ep. 217 - Why is Michigan Governor Gretchen Whitmer ignoring our calls to release Michael Thompson from prison?
"I've literally never voted for Republican in my entire life. I would never vote for Donald Trump and I don't know of a Republican right now that I would consider voting for but right now. Michigan has a Democratic Governor Gretchen. Whitmer and I need you to understand that I have begged this woman for months and months and months on end to release a man named Michael Thompson from prison. Who was arrested on a? We'd charge twenty six years ago. I have begged her personally. I have called her. I've emailed her attorneys. Have done the same thing. I have talked to the Lieutenant Governor in now Michael who was nearly seventy years old is struggling in prison during a corona virus pandemic and we need a Democrat to actually do something so it's great that we elect people in power who we say are supposed to represent us but now we have somebody who's in power and we're saying please. Can you have some mercy on a man who's been in prison for twenty six years over a we charge? Let me unpack and explain his case. We're going to get back on many of you who've listened to the breakdown before know that this case means a lot to me. We've talked about it before with made phone calls before but now it's urgent. This is Shaun King and you're listening to the the the breakdown a breakdown of a breakdown. Twenty six years ago with Bill Clinton still in his first term as President Michael Thompson. I need you understand this. Who was forty two years old at the time? He wasn't a cave. Not that being in prison for twenty six years when you're a kid is any different but Michael Thompson was forty two years ago and sold some weed to an old friend. It was a harmless transaction. That's it that's the crime Michael Thompson committed accept. It turned out that his old friend had become a police informant in police. Were using Michael's old friend to set up anybody and everybody they could. Michael of course had no idea that his friend was working for. The police sold the we to his friend and got arrested. This exchange of we'd of marijuana from money. It didn't take place in Michael's home but police used the moment as an excuse to later raid. Michael's home and when they did so again. This is all the way back in Nineteen ninety-four. They found an antique gun in a safe along with a handgun that belonged to his wife. Mind you Michael. Didn't have these guns on him when he sold the weed. He wasn't even at the house when he sold it. So you can't say. He committed a drug crime with a firearm but police and prosecutors packaged the weed. And the guns together like they were one big crime and ultimately sentenced. Michael to forty to sixty years in prison which is basically a life sentence for a forty two year old man and they never looked back. That was twenty six years ago. Now the sentence for having unregistered guns in your home would have been one to two years at most some people get probation for such a thing. It's a victimless crime. Michael didn't use the guns in a crime. They guns were just in his home. You get one to two years for that. The sentence for selling the weed typically would have been a few years. Marijuana is now legal in Michigan a harsh sentence for Michael Thompson selling we to his friends and then later under very suspicious circumstances getting arrested or getting charged with guns in the home the the warrant in that case is very suspect but a harsh sentence from Michael in that case would have been four to five years. Ten years would have been excessive. Fifteen years would have been extreme. Twenty years would have been outrageous. We're now at twenty six years. This is a human rights violation. I speak to Michael on the phone regularly. And He's struggling. He's a senior citizen and prison ages. You in dog years a year in prison with horrible sleep on a cheap mattress with the worst food in the country. Entire meal sometimes cost less than a dollar per person to make and being under in living under the constant threat of violence with the worst healthcare imaginable. A single year in prison is hard time. Michael is twenty six years. He has underlying several underlying health conditions including diabetes and respiratory problems. That now put him at grave risk with the threat of the corona virus sweeping across America's jails and prisons and one person cassette. Michael Free. Right now no questions asked. And that's Michigan Governor Gretchen Whitmer. She's a Democratic Party superstar and is constantly mentioned as a possible vice presidential candidate of Joe Biden and she has the power right now to release him. I want to tell you what I've done and we'll tell you what she hasn't done right after the break. Listen everybody in the country in the world right now is under a tremendous amount of stress and anxiety. 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I'm bringing you today's woman crush Wednesday every week. The northstar excitedly highlights amazing women of color who are breaking barriers and making the world a better place as part of its woman crush Wednesday series. This week's Trailblazers Award winning journalist called Alia who's Afro Latino worked way up the journalism industry to become the first black woman to host Colombia's national news program in the late nineteen nineties. The tenacious reporter soon found herself working for Telemundo before moving onto the largest Spanish language network. Univision in two thousand seven at university on Elliott conducted one of her most widely seen interviews with KKK. Grand Wizard Chris. Baker despite enduring discussing racist language from Baker Elliott bravely stood her ground and told him the her skin color does not define her two thousand Seventeen Ilya made history when she became the first Afro Latina to anchor an evening newscast for the major broadcast network when she joined. Noticiero univision with whore heroes earlier this year Elliott joined. Cnn's Jake Tapper and Dana Bash the CO host the Eleventh Democratic presidential debate for all her dedication to break down barriers for Black Hispanics and her hard work in the Phil Journalism we salute to learn more about Ilia and why we're crushing on her. And her amazing work be sure to check out at the northstar media on Instagram for nearly a year. Now I have personally begged Gretchen. Whitmer over and over and over again to please set Michael Thompson free. He poses no public safety risks to society. He never has. He is an old man now. He's been a model citizen in prison. He's been a mentor to other incarcerated men for decades and while Michael has been in prison. I need you to understand this. Men who were convicted of rape and murder have come in. Serve their entire sentence and been released. Men who actually shot people during drug deals were then caught with the gun that they use for the crime have come into the prison. That Michael was in serve their time in left. Michael has seen prison. Guards comment serve their entire career and retire all while he's been in prison. It's an abomination. I've called Gretchen Whitmer. I've emailed Gretchen. Whitmer. I've sent her male. I've sent her letters and packages. I have pleaded with her. Friends have begged her staff. I spoke to the Lieutenant Governor and nothing and I am left at. This point to conclude Gretchen. Whitmer doesn't care. She wants Michael Thompson to suffer because as governor. She could release him today. He's served twenty six years in prison for a non violent drug crime. But let me tell you what I actually think is happening. I've Seen Democrats do what I think. Gretchen. Whitmer is doing right now. I've seen them do it for generations when I started fighting for Michael to be released Gretchen. Whitmer wasn't necessarily in the national spotlight. She hadn't yet been given the opportunity to give the democratic response to the state of the Union that she gave this past January. She wasn't rumored to be on the shortlist for VP. But now that she is. She's doing what all. Democrats think they have to do to look tough. She's sparing nobody by governor of New York. Andrew Cuomo is basically doing the same thing when her star began to rise. My heart began to sink. I told friends and colleagues that what I thought would happen is exactly what's happening. She'd freeze. She'd be so careful on every single decision that she'd stopped making decisions like this when altogether and here. We are over the past few weeks. Michael's attorneys and advocates have started to ask her to release him just to prevent him from catching the corona virus in prison. Where he would likely die if he contracted it still as we see governors and district attorneys and mayors released from jail and prison. All over the country still from Gretchen. Whitmer nothing crickets. And it's heartbreaking because we celebrate electing Democrats and we cheer. We put them there but here we are. We elected a Democrat in Michigan as governor. Here we are. She's in office secure as ever approval ratings as high as ever and she won't use her power to help woman in need it's frustrating. It's maddening because it's been spelled out. Does somebody could say well Sean. She's got a lot to do. We've been asking her for over a year and before I started asking. Her people had been pleading with her for years. People were pleading with the governor before her. What are we waiting on? Please release this man do what you were elected to represent the people you are elected to represent and release. Michael Thompson from prison. He has served twenty six years. Your state cannot afford to continue wasting its money. Having people like Michael in prison when he poses no safety risk in fact he's only a liability to the state and to public safety in prison. Why is he there? What's the purpose other than cruel and unusual punishment? Listen I'VE GOTTA run. We're going to develop some action steps for Michael in the days ahead but I need you to understand this story so we can continue fighting again to free Michael Thompson. Take care of your body bring number but bring them and bring the bring bringing in the spring break break break break Derek. Bring up break break break. Great great nipped a break.
Ep. 166 - Corrupt Chicago billionaire trying to buy the local justice system
"Have three stores that I want to unpack and explain for you today. I there is a multi-billionaire than is entered the Chicago Kogo. Da's race and it's something that we've never quite seen before is disturbing in great part. Not just because he's trying to buy his way into the race but because 'cause we comes from what he represents after unpack and explained I want to give you a big update on Michael Thompson. Today is the last day for you to be the able to submit a letter on his behalf at free Michael Thompson Dot com his petition for a commutation. Clemency is coming tomorrow. We want you to submit admit that letter today and lastly or give you an update on the conditions at Parchman prison continue to deteriorate. We're getting some response from state state officials there but some of it is just too late. This is Shaun King and you're listening to the the breakdown the the breakdown the EPA breakdown if you've been listening to the breakdown you've probably heard me say this about a hundred times and and I may mean literally. The Nation has about twenty four four hundred district attorney's out of those twenty four hundred district attorney's a represent millions and millions of people who've come through their offices who are formerly incarcerated currently incarcerated or about to be incarcerated local. DA's are in essence this CEOS of the local justice system. They run that system and out of the twenty. Four hundred district attorney's they are overwhelmingly white overwhelmingly overwhelmingly male and very very conservative by conservative. I mean conservative. Democrats conservative Republicans. It's a deeply conservative system out of those twenty four hundred district attorney's I like about fifty of them. Yeah that's that's my ballpark estimate. There about fifty good wins and one of the Great District Attorney's in our country is a woman named Kim Fox in Chicago now. Her official title is State's attorney. It's just it's just the same role. She is the prosecutor shooter in Chicago. And she has fought boldly for deep meaningful reforms. She has stood up against special interest and we see something all over the country. I've touched on this just a little bit before. We see something all over the country that we continue you see happening in Chicago with Kim. Fox's well is that black women district attorneys who are so bad ass. Who are doing doing exactly what they were elected to do? Not only do they not get the credit they deserve. They end up being attacked in ways that that we just don't see anywhere else and right now. Kim Fox's running for reelection I have personally endorsed Kim Fox i I know her I believe in her. I believe in her integrity. I believe in her capacity to run that office. Let me say that. The office of District Attorney is an incredibly difficult job. And I've come to learn that over the past four years helping run. Da's races all over the country. It's a it's it's a really hard job and she is up to the task. Crime has dropped year-over-year in Chicago in great part because her policies actually make the city safer and yet she has a man running against her name. Bill Conway is a son of a multibillionaire comes from a family that runs a group called the Carlisle Group and I did not understand. This toss started doing the research. People are afraid of the Carlisle Group. They are so rich and have their hands in so many things that people are afraid to even speak out against them and bill. Conway is trying to challenge. Kim Fox and his campaign is almost exclusively backed by his father. who was a CO founder of the Carlisle allow group one of the world's largest investment firms? The elder conway I donated a half a million dollars to A special pack soon after his son declared his candidacy and has continued to pour money into the campaign now totalling which is the most. I think I've ever seen a single person pour into any. Da's race has given now four point. Eight five million dollars to his sons race. Another hundred ninety five thousand dollars come. From other Carlisle group executives making eighty six percent talk of Conway's twenty nineteen fundraising from contributions of one thousand dollars or more off from Carlisle group executives or employees. He's and here's the thing was shot. Hell what's the problem with the Carlisle Group. A Lot Carlisle group is deeply invested in the tear. Gas Ask that was used on not just Ferguson demonstrators but demonstrators and protesters all over the world including Palestine. They are a deep deep deep partner in the tear. Gas Industry in fact they were awarded nine point three billion dollars in defense business this from just nineteen ninety eight to two thousand and three. They provide the foundation for the entire Industry today. The firm owns a piece of a company called combined systems. Inc. these generic names they give corporations that is a manufacturer of tear gas and other her ammunitions being used all over the country. Not only that Carlisle has gowd's nursing homes in harm to patients. It's the Carlisle. Group has ownership of two nursing home companies and has produced several horrible controversies including a whistle blower lawsuit that was actually joined by the Department of Justice which charged that Carlisle Group It's called Carlisle's manor care with gouging medicare for millions of dollars. In unwarranted billing Carlisle bought texas-based life care hospitals back in two thousand thousand five. Just a few weeks before Hurricane Katrina struck and twenty four of life cares. Patients died a forty eight percent mortality tally rate after their unit lost electrical power and they were unresponsive there. Listen I have so many problems with the Carlisle Group. A Carlisle portfolio company called Cobalt International Energy acquired three Angolan oil blocks in two two thousand and eleven and it was a deal in which three high ranking officials from Angola were undisclosed minority investors in the deal resulted assaulted in multiple shareholder lawsuits and an SEC investigation. We see this type of stuff with Carlisle group all the time yet they. They are the primary backers of Bill Conway and Bill Conway Says Hey. I'm coming in to change things to change. What the city's getting safer safer? She's a great district attorney. What are you going to change exactly? and WHO's supporting you. What I think I am? Most deeply disturbed disturbed about is the reality that for the first time we see billionaires and children billionaires trying to buy their way into this position I am disturbed. I hope each of you hear this. Who live in Chicago or know somebody who lives in Chicago? Let them know to support poor. Kim Fox she's great. We have our back and we're in her corner all the way. Listen next up. I have an action step for you that if you have not taken I need you to take an if you have taken an avenue spin around if you have not already been to free Michael Thompson Dot Com. I needed to go there now. Needed a check it out and we are almost at twenty thousand. Letters sent directly to the governor of Michigan Gretchen. Whitmer we are. I think just five hundred letters away. We need you to take us over the top so we can cross twenty thousand letters sent on behalf of Michael Thompson who has now been in prison over twenty five years originally arrested for selling weed to an undercover informant. Michael has paid an outrageous price. Basically defacto life sentence for nonviolent crimes and we are fighting hard for the governor of Michigan Begin to intervene to allow him to be released just for time served. It's it's outrageous. If you go to free Michael Thompson Dot Com right now now you can also you can see the letter that you can send in but we need more of you today to make phone calls in the top right hand corner. There's a link that will give you all the instructions on what you can do to make phone calls on Michael's behalf but we need your support. We need all hands on deck to help free Michael Thompson. Listen I had a good chance to speak to Michael this week and I wanted to play some of that but I just wanted to keep that conversation between Michael and myself. I'll speak to Michael title again on this Friday and I'll make sure I record a message from him to all of you. He's deeply deeply deeply. Grateful he sees that you all all are making the phone calls that you are sending the letters and is so touched by your time and energy and effort. But if you haven't already joined us go to free Michael Thompson APPS and dot com and even if you have go ahead and make some phone calls for us to say all right now. Lastly I have one final story and update on the conditions. Additionally Parchment prison. It's the bring Dan to break down. Break down break there to break down a brick down. Now who Are you following. What's happening at Parchman prison now? What I know is that if Donald Trump was not president and was not sucking the wind out of the news cycle each and every day it would and should be a a national story? It's a nationally -mergency just this week to more people have died at parchman making it at least nine people people that we know of who've been killed at parliament this month alone. It's one of the deadliest months of any prison in modern American American history and it's not accidental. It's after a life of neglect at that facility. They opened up a horrible wing of the prison. That was actually ordered to be shut down a generation ago and they've opened back up to put inmates there and the men that they're putting eating there are suffering under horrible conditions and we continue to see not just violence between the men who are housed at Parchman but men say that they continue to be abused by guards and others so listen. The conditions at Parchman are so horrible. Thankfully just late last night in I I would say almost exclusively because of the hard work of local activists and organizers and even including my friends my son and to make a mallory who've traveled all the way to Mississippi and have stayed there fighting hard for the men there at Parchman just last night. They announced that they're going to close that horrible wing at Parchman. But it's deeper than that. They said they're GONNA make new. Hires my friend Jody Owens who was the district attorney of Jackson. Mississippi is on that commission so we see some progress but the conditions of prisons all over this country. Continue to just be horrible inhumane and I hope you just have it in your heart to care about what's going on not just at Parchman but to incarcerated people all over the country and for most of us it's kind of out of sight out of of mind but they need our support they need our advocacy. Thank you so much to all of the activists on the ground in Mississippi. They were fighting hard for change there. And we're starting to see progress because of your hard work. Bring them and during the break a break break break Derek upbringing.
7 Weekly Emails That Can Move Your Career Forward
"This work matters with bestselling author and syndicated talk. Show host ken coleman. It's friday march fifth seventy emails. You should send every week to get ahead. I love this is a from a guy by the name of michael thompson was posted on medium and this is really good. I saw this man. This is so practical. So let's get right to it. These are so straightforward. i email. You should send every week. This should become a part of your habitual rhythm by the way you could also say handwritten notes. Doing these things would also be awesome. Just going to add that little nugget. I e mail. You should email every week an email saying thank you. Just thank some people thought. Oh care who. And i don't care how many send thank you emails number to send an email to somebody admire. Hey just want you to know. You're doing great stuff. I really love your stuff like what you're doing and it helps me encourages me graham'll an email lifting someone again. Tuesday you to lift up could be a friend family. Member co worker. Just lift somebody and that lift has something to do with if you know. They're down lift. Share something great about what they do who they are what they mean to you what they mean to people around him or the just if you just lift somebody if you don't even know their lift of how to give him a compliment. Tell them how much i appreciate them. next email someone. You just met follow up. Most opportunities come through acquaintances. And so let's say you just meet somebody at lunch. You're somebody else. Somebody else walks to the table to mutual relation for the person you're with you meet them. Show some interest there some enthusiasm about human being. Get the email from the mutual connecting sending me. Hey great running into your lunch. Let me mean if i can ever help you fantastic idea email. It'll co worker. Keep a relationship that exists already. Keep it alive. Distant emailed us to work with reach out to moan. Social media would work as well a thursday afternoon. Email to your boss. I thought this was really fun. Very specific but this is just the idea of before your leader leaves leaves into the weekend and kind of moves into the weekend on thursday given update on the progress. You're making that they are. That's relevant to them. Just give them a nice update. Oh that's nice. It's kind of the un weekly weekly report and finally a friday after email friday afternoon. Email to yourself. I love this. This is the idea from the author of trust yourself. Who says that. Sitting yourself a friday afternoon message with a rundown of the week Wins things you learn an idea. Maybe for next week but it is a great great kind of wrap up summary mental exercise. Certainly a inventory of what you've been doing really great exercise. I love that article. Those seventy miles really really good stuff there. I think we all need to do that. I want to try to start doing that as well if you like. What you're hearing. Make sure to subscribe and share. Work matters with a friend for help on your career. Journey listened to the ken. Coleman show podcast part of the ramsey network.
Ep. 399 - Let's buy Michael Thompson a new home together
"Everybody we are about to buy a house together. Not me my family me and you and all of us we are about to chip in. Show the world what collective economics looks like. We're about the chip in and buy a house together for art sweet kind compassionate brother michael thompson who was just released from prison this past week after serving twenty five hard years in prison. Give you some details some instructions. I'm going to tell you about the house then less chip together. Let me unpack and explain it. This is shaun king and you're listening to the breakdown the breakdown the breakdown for the past two years now voice a little horse but for the past two years. We've been fighting to free michael thompson from prison in michigan. He's been incarcerated for twenty five years not for murder not for a sexual assault. Not for robbery but for selling weed. And if you've heard me say this before it's important for me to say it. Wow michael was incarcerated. He literally saw people who were for murder. Serve their entire term and get released. He saw people who were convicted. Some who plead guilty or who didn't who were convicted of sexual assault. Serve their entire term. Michael was imprisoned for so long that he literally saw people start their career at the prison and work their entire career and retire. And while michael was there for selling weed non violent crime while he was there his parents died is only son died. He lost virtually everything he had accept his dignity and he continued hoping and believing that one day he would be free. They convict they. They sentence this man to over forty years. We had to fight to get the governor of michigan. The attorney general of michigan lieutenant governor of michigan. The local district attorney. We had to fight to get them to make this commutation to release this man and when they released him. They didn't do so in my mind. You weed is now legal in michigan and has been legal in michigan for years and even after it was legalized they continued to keep him incarcerated on thankful the gall nerve they continued to keep him incarcerated but michael continue to hope and believe that he would be freed in this past week. Finally in twenty twenty one michael was freed and when they let michael out. They didn't do so with a multi million dollar settlement. They didn't do so where they gave him. Thirty thousand one hundred thousand dollars or two hundred thousand dollars a year for every year. He was incarcerated. They didn't give him a check for one thousand dollars. They gave him nothing. No housing no transportation. He's on his own. Which is crazy because now he's a senior citizen out in this world that has changed so drastically. He's been imprisoned. i'm forty one. He's been imprisoned since i was a teenage boy. And we're going to buy this man a house if you go to my instagram page and click the link in my bio and by the time you click the link. We might have already raised the money but if you go to my instagram page and click the link in my bio at shaun king on instagram. You can see pictures of the home. I've posted some pictures at a home. You can get a link to the go fund me and we're going to chip in and do this together. Today is the first day of black history month and there's pain there. There are painful stories. That i could tell today but i decided today that today the first day of black history month we would come together and do something good something righteous something that will last something that will at least give this one man who was wronged by the system not only give him peace and comfort would literally give them shelter. Give him a place to stay a place to live and We're going to do this and we're gonna have him go. Buy a house in cash. Because here's the thing. There are apartments and god. This makes my blood boil. There are apartments. They won't even lease to michael in michigan and michael appears to basically be stuck in michigan because even though he served twenty five years in prison they decided to put on four extra years of probation unthinkable. We're working on that. We wanted to get michael released and housed and all of that. And if he ever one day decides to sell this house and move on his business but michael pick this home. It's a beautiful home. He loves it. The neighborhood is full of retirees. That are his age of the home is wonderful. And he's ready to move in and so Less make this happen. Go right now. Click the link in my bio on instagram. Chip-in donate and share that link everywhere unless raise these funds to purchase michael thompson. A new home love and appreciate you all. Stay safe everybody. It is a full on blizzard here in new york. Be careful wherever you are. Take care bring the bring. 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Ep. 397 - My conversation with Michael Thompson after he was freed from prison today after 25 years in prison for selling weed
"Everybody today is one of those days that i would call a good news. A great news episode of the breakdown. And i am very very excited to share a conversation that i just had with my dear brother who has become almost like an uncle or father figure grandfather figure to me michael thompson. Who was just released from prison. A few hours ago early this morning after serving twenty five years in prison staggering twenty five years ago. I was a student in high school. I mean that's something. We're talking about all the way back from the nineties until today michael thompson was in prison for selling weed in michigan. I just need to say it was. It was not a kingpin. He was not running some crazy operation. And i don't even think a kingpin feed should serve a year in prison. Dan dam sure. Not twenty five years in prison. Michael spent twenty five years in prison for selling we to a friend. While he was imprisoned his parents died is only son died. Talk to michael just briefly about some of that loss but they wanna linger on that. We're looking forward to the future. And i just want you to listen in to the conversation. I'm gonna be asking you in the days ahead to help us by michael allows. The state of michigan is just basically leaving him with nothing he is sentence was commuted. We offer that commutation for years now. Unfortunately it took that long and unlike somebody who was wrongly convicted. And that's how. I see michael Michael's not going to beginning any compensation from state. Even though weed is now legal in michigan is just bananas. They stole years from his life. But we're looking forward. And michael wants to be an advocate for justice reform and prison reform as want you to hear the conversation. We were both glad to see each other's faces and hear each other's voices and we'll got a lot of work ahead all right. Glad you can be here in joining on this conversation. This is shaun king. And you're listening to the breakdown the breakdown the of the breakdown michael a man are you man man. Just like a just like sam cooke chain a change going on. That's right man brother so good to see you man. I love you man. Eleven to sean and He's been a long journey. Man finally animated you keep on no brooklyn Kept on pumping it out on the internet. And i felt you. You know that was hearing. You know it ain't important to talk to. The person is above the action person. Carry when you're not there winning knows and you told me that you wouldn't believe me. You didn't you and mike and michael. We're not finished. You know i. I told my staff and others the the most important thing that you always asked me was to make sure that when you were released that we'd be there to help you and so we're really kind of standing by to see the best way to support you but we're committed but a long haul you know for the rest of your days. You know we wanna see you in a house that you own in a job that you love you know whatever you need and so we've already set aside money to support you and we're just we're just kinda waiting for your. We wanted to to be able to get out and get a good night's rest and then these next few days you just tell us how we can best help you on week. We got your back well. Well it's shown the maintain like we spoke last. You told me that That a us honorable. Man you know and i told you who i was and still that person and of course man and it sounded you still at person as well and my thing is a home career home and just like i said i ain't trying to go back to living Mice and rats and stuff like that. Even though you're saying. I spent years in prison after stealing. I used to know a living with mice and rats and stuff in a you know we found a couple of houses sambat but we tried to work the money we try to get the money up to pay for pay for the house and i wanna know all i wanna know. Michael is when you find the house that you like. I just wanna know how much it costs. And i'll i'll i'll raise the but a whole thing man like i'll we'll we'll put our. We'll put our. I have the money that we set aside from grassroots law. Whatever else it costs we'll just raise it and people are ready to give. I think when if we could if you choose a homeless. And i wouldn't rush if you find one that you liked. Let's choose it and it will show people online the house man. We'll just raise the money and by the way no we won't even have a mortgage you know. Let's just find a home in by that thing. Man oh my goodness man. Johnny raisel easy may just like a toad. Toady like talking you. You go straight to the museum. Yeah no man listen. If if we live we live in a just society the government would pay for all it is and you deserve all of that and much more because i really see in all of us. Who know you and love you. I really see your case as a wrongful conviction like hell at most. They should've had you do some community service or you should have been in and out that same year you know and it's like and so if we lived in adjusts -ociety nisshin would do all of this for you. Flint would do this for you. The government would do it but the thing is the people are with you you know and the people the people care about you man all the people that are there with you all the great. Dd who's just been a champion for you. All the great people at last prisoner project but you know we see man. We asked people. We made a book that we're gonna send you. We asked people to ride encouraging notes for you and we were putting it into a book send you. Man is about ten thousand people that wrote notes just wanted you to know how much they care about you. How much they're in your corner and so those same people that are gonna make sure they chip into to just you know. Make the rest of this year. Easy for you as you as you try to figure out. What's next man a man. I knew i knew Talked to you. You'll make things right Phase right but anna. That's all. That's what i held onto these us anna because last time i talked to unique did Grandfather grandfather some where a day day. That was on a map. You said we're not feel that way man like Note away my the way my brain and heart man. Like i've felt this whole time like it's my family and my family does. That's this locked up in being mistreated. And that's what gives us. That's how i try to lead with support. People is say. What would you do if this was your father or your grandfather. Your uncle and you know. I've tried to tell people like always felt your sincerity even though we weren't even able to see each other face to face and Know my my staff. And i one of the things we wanna do. We know these days. They're going to be super busy. But we're kind of spread some time out and then over the next month. I'll come up to see you and some of our staff numbers. If you okay with it will come hang out with you as well. We know that there'll be a lot of people there this week but we hope to be there in all in the next few months to day. Dead man s la real anna july. Just like a you know. My thing is that You know you had stressed me. How honorable you know. And and that means a lot to me now because i don't you know with enough people in my life that when real and all they do is get in the way man knows my july did News interviews in the damn mentioned was about a them gaz in speech voices And leave you can leave wednesday. The news stations that covered that you can believe one thing Guys near jumping for joy hiring and running said you say hit the you said right right and got to cover ours proud that already. You know all the local outlets have covered have covid and and will continue to cover their you know what what. I'm looking forward to over the next few months. Is you know people across the country being able to hear from you and we're working. We wanted to wait until today until we started. But i i'm already going to figure out what we can do to get the the supervision and stuff at the very least reduced. I'm so frustrated That you got this commutation but now still trying to supervise your life and so we're working hard on figuring out what it will look like to make sure they either remove that or or drastically reduce it. We just wanted to wait until today until we started pushing just didn't want to take any risk. Yeah Yeah i'm glad you go four years probation rain. Oh man come on. I told my wife. I was so mad when i learned that i made my blood. Boil man like You know. I didn't get a chance to tell you. This would like this tight. You know my anger over. That is part of with us me. I try to make sure my anger. Is you know Anger can be healthy and unhealthy. But i'm so angry that they already stole those those years in they wanna keep you on probation for four years. This is unjust. As as anything. I think they just don't think about because the people who make those policies they've never lived through that and and they're not even connected to people who have so for them. It's just like words on paper man and they don't understand like you paid the price ten times over and it's like not we but your team Everybody this there with you there in michigan. Now they they right. They really wanted us to wait until after today to start pushing to get that probation removed or reduced or we don't get behind right away. A man yeah you know Break for out of new but but These less too much been kinda rough On noman at the prison. I've been i was at because they took my phone. They put me on day phone restricted. Knowing go come on and eight but meal. Thirty day own strict Do what was the purpose of that. Like just to be mean spirited or they re they don't care man they got a dirty and see what happened was i was on close contact. And also opposed of many kept me on. Close contact between heyday. The only to keep you on it for fourteen days So i was trying to get to the phone and the they kept him. Where you got you cleared declared a close contact but the is but Kate but they just hadn't present them to me but my bank. I had to get on the phone shot. And so they wrote mutate manuals. A roman nose intended to three day. But see see. It's hard for me as miami. You you know all this stuff. I went through with people. You know this particular prison here down. Twenty eight twenty five years anonymity hit this kind of problem. You know say after twenty and here you go twenty years take it then you get one prison three months and get get to right. Yeah i think what i know. Is these prisons. They're not designed to let you go. They're designed to keep you and what i've seen over and over again across the years when brother get close to release date the these these facilities and their staff and their policies they try to put a grip on you man to do anything they can do to make it impossible for you to to be released or or to delay your release obscene axiom. The worst case scenario before where brothers close to their release date and you know facilities john doe over the years. You've seen all of this man where people jammed that stuff up and Two tickets the desktops phony man and We we know that and below day is why. Keep talking about prison reform. It seemed like they not doing that. The nobody knows why winning start doing really doing some about it is still others talk. See because this guys need help in that man you know this. This guys in there sean. That's remark he did. A brisk is a little while ago as we might start speaking about the prisoner reform. Man it goes. Listen if you speak about it knows something about it. You don't know nothing about the prison. You know saying you'll know even don't know how to deal with it because some reason you let you speak about it for political reasons and then it disappears man in. That's why i but see that's why you need you to be able to be a spokesperson for it. Hadn't spent this much time whether whether you're comfortable with it or not. You are now an expert in in prison you know. And this is a level of expertise that you have to share with people. Because you're right. There's a whole lot of talk from even from people politicians that we were supposed to support very little but very little action. And right there you go. Yeah yeah no. I see it. I think it's two fold. You know like my wife. And i both have grown up with close friends and close family in and out of prison and so we have a lot of experience and understanding personally s party. Even what caused me to be able to connect with you. Because i know like we've had that experience and not work for three years in jails and prisons as a teacher and i've seen the impact that it had and except most people that are talking. Talk not only did not step foot in there. They haven't even really studied it man and so part of it is we have to make sure we empower you create opportunities for you to speak on what you know and To to educate people to show them. You know how bad system truly is man. We didn't know said is till you but you know You would think black counselors runs a rust Black officers who patrol captain shift commanded. You would think that it'd be better for you because they know something about you as a you know the in somebody you know. You've been a black man. Not man don't you know man. They give del worsted anybody else man and you got i got i got i gotta send you. This book is called locking our own. And it's bhai brilliant brother named james form in junior and his dad jane swarming was a leader in the civil rights movement and book. It should be popular but it's not popular. I'm gonna tell you why it's about the role of black political leaders in building this incarceration and it's something that we don't want to confront because it's easy to point at an e an evil person out there and say oh it's uh is also building these systems maintaining the systems working these systems and that book locking up our own it. It really explains what you just said. The role that our own people have played in building and maintaining these evil systems. You know i'll send it to you and if you want. I'd love to even connect you to to james. Who wrote the book he's a. He's a professor at yale law school and just a brilliant kind soul. He was A public defender for many years. Just a really good guy civil rights attorney you will you know my thing is is experience man for twenty five years and And whatever i can do to help somebody else. Not a brain awareness to to to what's going on I'm all for that man. i'm not for myself. No no mattaya is Aggie my blessings from god you know saying some all right man you know but thing is as won't be putting position for somebody to hear me man he would. I'm saying because end these workshops there in what shine a stocked up and they were successful. They stopped them. And this had nothing to do with no certificates just coming on. Because i've tried to tell him before you can move any further. You gotta watch your own heart. You gotta wash your heart. Don't worry man heart yard in the game leaders a story man this story. I told him. I got together in and they came to me and said wow michael Can you explain that to me again. Had told him a limitation story about him again used to be aced do and this got was a student amin. He was screaming and then they get hooked on drugs and he get in trouble. The was living on the bridge. He was a hobo and some have been sent to prison to prison. Everybody looked the same. Wash it off. Wash him off the day so he ain't worried about drugs vocals. That's the end of that because private christian get him now so he by crushing washing mall. Thirty million was clean clothes on in everything so now he goes back to what it used to be a student. Okay but this as a student smarter and most of these organizations in prison laws you can read a company him real good. You'll be a leader but you nothing but hobo. You another better Will you can't you. You wouldn't do a net up in st. okay now. Want the but whistle dangers about this chime whistle danishes about it. Is these same ones. You know what. I'm saying that that that was a student. And he's leader the groups now you know he knows it goes because you not read the crime. Could you not read the laws. You not read this. Read the bible. Let the thing is man. these guys putting a life behind is man was once a student but he Prison lived on the bridge. And like i told them i say here. You know nothing about this man but you've fallen because some be pass your test because he's not a reading and writing and he can comprehend real world. I said but the thing is let me tell you some. The only one can give or else is the one who earned strengths. S it in this man. Ain't never know straightening y'all following him. Not only that yoga more heart than he do Because he's smarter than you he can get you ordering teagle. Killed his gecko stabbed. Get komo wake up. You smarter than right in. And they looked at me and we'll one. After we left one of the workshops he came and say what you mean by of you know gagging earns he earned strikes if he won't be awards as a go to the military. Nobody gave orders arnaud stripes. Nobody military given orders strikes. So so what i'm saying. Is you give this man something that did he ain't never earned but you your life on the line you're the so you ruined ruined your life over. It shouldn't have that much power over you and Yeah i get it. And i know for years you will mentor in these young brothers. That would come in there and it just infuriates. People need to know here you were leading your own mentor ship program. Basically in that they stopped you from even doing that. You know it's it's What people need to understand is you know i. I say it like this. These systems were not built to to empower us. They were not built to to to to set us free they were built to make us captive to oppress us. And when you try to do anything that doesn't fit the definition of what this system was built for the system will assist them will bite back you know so you know you're trying to basically change change. These young brothers live so they could come in there and get out and start their lives over again. System never liked that man and people don't people don't know that that on the inside when you try to help people they'll make it where it's impossible for you to do it. You know people don't know win. I win a why every time you do something good notes down talk with a group of people and and and you don't give them nothing. No no Conservative you know what i'm saying. Do it just because you he listened to you. Why is it that you got to be some. You know trying to form some kind of organization you know saying within the prison and don't you why don't they just take the time out this talk to young ad that i was in the workshop with wanted to take the tab And ask them you know saying what do they feel about me. Because when i went to one man heavier have been hugged by your father grandfather. It makes now now as it will. I'm i'm i'm one of them and i wanna hug you and want you a grandfather when her father and it's a what happened. I had a a man that canon. And and i hit him ready. You know what i'm saying. 'cause he already knew what to do and so he called his buddy and told us but it gets living hug. Uncle any hugged him and they both broke down crab. Yeah did you know. Did you have much relationship with your father. Yes ma'am father day with my best friend. See so you're able to you're able to pay that forward because it's in you you know and and see that makes sense to me because i even felt that energy from you so it makes sense to me that you had such a great relationship with your father when when did he pass has but Eight years ago nine years ago. yeah. I'll try to thank try to thank trying to think about That's my father's passing in my son. I only sir. And i know michael okay. I heard offered Sorry if i made a demo hard for you man. I just was curious now. I i didn't think you knew and thank you. Yeah it's part of what made me wanna fight few man just and just the anonima loss and We can't make all that up. Michael but what we can do is give you the support you need and then put you in a position to help the way you want to help. Moving forward man so just as Over the next couple days. I i sent my number to everybody there. And so that you have my number and can call me anytime and I know that there's been some money. Raised for you. And and and i hope you have access to all of that but as soon as you're ready to make some of those next steps just hit me up will will be there to support it and make sure it's easy for your right. Yeah di di di di already she. She on top of the house Some type of vehicle. No give me a vehicle Also ddh to win the geico than in contact with everybody Me myself. i'm just getting out a shine so a deep breath man like i told you man. A guy's got younger than this. Just sam cooke changed will man. You know i'm here for you. And i'll i'll keep my phone close to me and if you Want to reach out and call back where we're not recorded or anything else we can. We can talk as often as you want big small if you ever want me to Just put my eyes on something Anything like that anything. You want me to check out or if you want me to speak to anybody on your behalf or anything anything i can do. My answer is yes okay. we'll win. A does the d- d. The sound is a nice time though. And and so when I'm gonna get into insignia. Because i wanted to try to get you where the kitchen was. Good no me too me too that to me today man and we'll see what it is so we can do with it obama to see you man see so you wanna bring the. I'm tiffany hawkins. I'm alan boomer. And we are the momentum advisors every single week we talk about wealth management personal finance and entrepreneurship financial advisers by day. We're entrepreneurs by night. We're building wealth for ourselves and we wanna make sure that you understand how to build wealth in your own family tune in for shows like is your retirement savings investment. one one. We literally run the gamut on all the things you need to know about financial wealth creating legacy for your family can really just wealth creation as a whole what we find is that these conversations are happening but they're not happening as much as they need to in diverse communities and so we're bringing a new voice a new amount of energy and we want you to tune in so we bring the tips we ring the strategy and we always bring the good news so make sure you tune in every week to the momentum advisors. There's something for everyone.
Ep. 400 - This is What Happens When We Come Together!
"In the past twenty four hours together over eight thousand of us now nearing nine thousand individual donors came together to raise two hundred and sixty thousand dollars to not only purchase. A brand new home for michael thompson. Now that he's been released from prison but we also now have raised enough money to purchase a car for him which he desperately needs and wants to be able to support himself and get around and to also provide him some extra finances to make sure that we're covering taxes insurance and everything else that he needs to get started. Don't worry we're also looking for a job for him. Other ongoing support that can be maintained but did is one of those days where i just wanna say thank you. Thank you to all of you all of the listeners. Here of the breakdown now. All of you who've supported me and my work across the years including right here on the podcast but in just a moment. I just wanna unpack what we can do when we actually come together. 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Get ten percent off of their first month at better help dot com slash breakdown. Check it out. it's really important. I know you'll love beat down. If break down break you know my whole life. I've heard i've heard us say. Wow if we only worked together some version of ad like if we only worked together what could we do or if we weren't fighting each other we weren't getting any way. What could we actually do. And what we could do would be by amana brand new house in about six hours. That's how much took for us to raise the one hundred eighty thousand dollars that we raised i to purchase a brand new home for michael thompson when michael was released from prison. They didn't give them anything you know. He's not being treated as someone who was wrongly convicted. They commuted his sentence but he wasn't given a pardon still. Has this case hanging over his head and we said listen. This man served twenty five years of his life in prison and everything was taken from him. Let's set him up. Let's buy a new house. And i thought it would take a week. I told michael the day before. We started the fundraiser asset. Michael now i could take me a week and a semi quick could be a few days more or it could be a few days less and i thought you know best case scenario is gonna get it done in a few days to us showed up and we did it in six hours and then after we raised the one hundred and eighty thousand dollars to buy michael in new home. You all gave another eighty thousand dollars and that eighty thousand dollars will cover a nice reliable car and the living expenses and the taxes and registrations and insurance an all that that michael is going to need and this is going gonna give this man a cushion to live on. And don't worry we also. We are also providing financial advice and guidance and support from people that have worked with the innocence project for several years to help guide their exonerates after they are released but This is what happens when we work together when when we don't just focus on problems but focus on solutions when we don't just focus on our frustrations but focus on what's possible and listen. There are real problems and you're going to me talk about them. They are real frustrations and listen. If you follow me you know. I stay frustrated but we can't stay stuck in our problems. Stuck in our frustrations we also have to say. What can we do. Can we change the system. How can we support the victims of this oppressive place that we live in and call home. What can we do. That can actually provide michael the support he needs because we can say damn idiot twenty five years in and they didn't support him at all. Damn that's terrible and that would be that. That's that's a full thought you're right. It is terrible. That's a that's the beginning middle and end of a complete sentence but we don't have to stop there we can do something about it. We have the means the systems the structures the capacity and it touches my heart and i spoke to michael several times. Yesterday i spoke to michael. Today is just say. Listen in the middle of this pandemic where we're all struggling in some capacity. We still came together and made this happen and it was beautiful for me that it started on the first day of black history month again even with black history month. We're not just focusing on pain. We're not just focusing on struggle but we're finding ways to show what we can do when we bring ourselves together and use our power in smart beautiful ways. Love you all appreciate you all. We've got some really big announcements. That are coming. Maybe in the next two three weeks for this podcast and for the northstar can't wait to share the news with you love and appreciate everybody take care and thank you. Thank you thank you for your generosity breaking down the burma bring the bring the bring. Tiffany hawkins alan boomer and we are the momentum advisors every single week we talk about wealth management personal finance and entrepreneurship. We are financial advisers by day. We're entrepreneurs by night. We're building wealth for ourselves and we want to make sure that you understand how to build wealth in your own family tune in for shows like is your money racist retirement savings investment one. Oh one we literally run the gamut on all the things that you need to know about financial wealth creating a legacy for your family can really just wall chretien as a whole what we find is that these conversations are happening but they're not happening as much as they need to in diverse communities and so we're bringing the new voice a new amount of energy and we want you to tune in so we bring the tips we bring the strategy and we always bring the good news so make sure you tune in every week to the momentum advisors. There's something for everyone show.
HR 3: Cleveland Cover Up
"Three o'clock by the way got my first shot on saturday. So twenty eight days from now. I'll get a little sick and then i will be one hundred percent ready to go going anywhere. I want at any time including leaving the country. Which i'm planning on doing. So we talk about the bahamas. Stop going to costa rica. i would love to go to the bahamas hookup. You have a hookup for me. Do matter of fact is it cheap. Yeah i could probably arrange some you. Let me know if you serious. I'm dead cold series. Eighth of michael thompson boulevard. In the bahamas. Yeah i'll stay at the at the five star hotel michael thompson boulevard. All right so there was a piece on One of the pages that we read all the time five funniest tv characters of all time. I didn't like their list at all. So i decided lets us go ahead and put together our own list. I hate mates before you keep going. Let me give one breaking news do it. Yeah mark saul out tonight. For health and safety protocols interesting could be out. You know when when shooter had to go out for health and safety protocols. He missed a week so i would hope that marcus all i obviously hoped the best needs situations that maybe this is. A contact trace. Wouldn't be surprised if he's out tomorrow night as well and then hopefully over the week long. Break the all star. Break thing getting back damian jones. He looked the other niamey. Michael hurt at the end of the game. Is he available tonight. Oh so that way. They took him out. Yeah hurt his back. Oh he's young you'll bounce back but phoenix was a team that going to be in jail right so he he would have something to prove their base go ahead. Sorry okay five. Funniest tv characters of all time. Eight seven seven. Seven ten espn. John what is your list. All right number five and this is kind of cheating because she doesn't play just one character but anything with kate. Mckinnon it on. Yeah it's cheating can't do that. So if i see plays a whole bunch of character making them all right so number four and this is my salute to michael thompson. Red fox fred. Saying on sanford and say it's a great one. Yeah if you go back and watch. Michael occasionally we'll send me clips and it stuff that never today go. I mean some of the stuff. Unbelievable number four. Number three julia. Louis dreyfuss is selena. Meyer on veep. I will tell you right upfront. She is on my list yeah. I thought she was fantastic mace. I don't think you'll have number two number two. But i think you'll agree. This is one of the great characters of all time cat alec baldwin as jell donigi on thirty zero. Damn funny so damn funny. Yeah he would talk. I would laugh great character and my number one is very obvious or hey hit it okay. Fine i'm dan. Larry david from curb your enthusiasm hands down the funniest character ever television mace. That's it that's my okay. So i want a little bit different than you learn. David is obviously there. But instead i went leon from curb your enthusiasm okay. Great character just kills me. What does he number one on a five. I didn't put him in order number two again to thirty rock. But i'm going with tracy on thirty rock. Who is hilarious excellent choice. The character that The tracy morgan place. I've got selena from veep. I've got george costanza from seinfeld. And then i'm gonna go back and grab ted baxter from the mary tyler moore. He was good funny my surge to buy lists more iconic and historic bed. Okay got number five. Yup by the way i see but five joyce jefferson george jefferson. So damn funny number. Four and aunt esther got to see some clips. Larry number three larry. David larry wow michael. I think you'd have a number one number. Two is fred sanford. fred san number. One's gotta be archie bunker. Archie bunker is a great one. Oh man he was hilarious so stupid and such a big unbelievable. Yeah it's it's a tough list like. Oh yes objective. Everybody's listening to be different. Yeah of course but do you care here my list let me just mention eight. Seven seven seven ten. Espn you want to jump in on this Lindsay what is your list so my list is number. Five layer david number. Four kramer from seinfeld love framers. great number. Three is michael scott from the office because he just so so uncomfortable. It's he's great. I love him on number. Two is kenny powers from eastbound. And down. I don't know if you saw series hilarious and the number one for me was also leon black on there too. So leon is awesome. Leon his awesome betty but there michael. Un old school. Yeah i mean currently went to an old. I tell you what we should be on. We forgot to put on a mesa. Airland was Susie from curb all suny s mad her on his podcast right. Yeah yeah she was great as funny. I love chicago larry. She kills kind of goes after you guys well on that on that subject base. I can't remember if it was your guy. I think it was on your podcast. She told a story about how when she said. You're not being mean enough to jeff. You're mean enough to your husband. She got permission to be. He goes just for kicks. Be as mean as capable of and susie said by the way. I don't wanna make fun of someone. Wait larry go. We need you to enter. Goes and literally right after. Okay jet you fat. She calls you fat duck tape. She will say she'll say she's a great for best wet ever on the curb when the guys lost the of the doll issues. Y'all all hair. Yeah oh my goodness she had larry in jeff frozen and fear. She was custom so bad for. Hey were gone. Josh and inglewood josh route seventeen. Espn what's up. Hey you guys forgot chris. Pratt buying andy dwyer on parks and rec one of the funniest performances overall. Can i tell you. I have never seen parks and rec is it. You gotta watch it. It's also if you're going to go with an office character. It's gotta be creed. Bratton show underrated. You gotta look at the little nuances that he has throughout the so. Okay hey thanks for the Give that guy mason in ireland shirt. Stanley was the funniest to me on the office. Stanley's funny okay. I'm going to be honest. I have never seen an episode of the office. You go down the office rabbit hole like one day. If you're not feeling well and you start watching episodes. You'll watch like twenty of them. That show is so addicting. It's ridiculous and dwight troupe is running the great sitcom characters of all time. Apparently by the way there is a some statistics. Somebody has because the office i think is streaming on peacock on the new. Nbc thing that you've got to pay for everybody's got something you've got gotta pay for now but the single most streamed show during the pandemic has been the office. Everybody is either watching it or watching it again. Yeah it doesn't surprise me because you can watch it over and over again. It's like curb you can watch curb over and over again and you'll you'll laugh at stuff that you didn't notice the first time let's go to downey victor is on the line or what's up man. Hey you guys forgot one of the most iconic female comedians. at all. The time i love lucy lucille fault. You're you're listening awesome. But if it wasn't for lucille ball the leading ladies. That's a really good point. She was the first lady of comedy the first great female comic on television. That's a great call now. And if you go make a tease me for this. And you're gonna answer non garozzo comedy comedy. I watch these episode today even though there are one hundred years old. The honeymooners ralph honeymoon. Ralph oh yeah no. That's a great show. That's an example. Mace you were talking earlier in the show that dr seuss story. Yeah very frequently. Ralph kramden played by. Jackie gleason yup threatened to hit his wife alice in the face. All the title house right through the straight right to the and i'll put you right in the face and then you could never get that show still air somewhere yes. tv land you can find it. I think that shows still does air. Despite that i had no idea. That's where it's from. When i was a little kid. I do something bad. My dad would you want to go to the moon. I never knew what he was talking to. Honest with just look at them like year right because he knew that he was never going to do that. Now there is a statue actually saw bill. Maher talk about this. There's a ralph kramden statue at the transit center in times. Yeah and bill maher asked because of to the moon and all stuff if there would come a time when they would cancel ralph kramden. So far hasn't happened. Yeah but i mean they people talking about this other remember. There was a statue of kate. Smith the old singer outside philadelphia because she would sing. God bless america in before flyers games and they had an unbelievable record. It was like up. Mike owen jeffrey osborne saying the national anthem. It laker games during your showtime air. You guys are always good. Luck charm right well. Then later somebody found that in the twenty s or thirty she hits saying some offensive lyrics a song and they pulled the statue down. Yeah because it was the song of the time way back when ticketless see. I think you've got a frame history in its proper context. Exactly right. you've got to say at. The moment kate smith was doing that everybody was doing that. She is a product of her time. That's why this conversation about washington and lincoln. They were products of their time. If you hold them to that standard. It's impossible to hold anybody historically to that standard. Because everybody is a is a character in their time a person of their time. And if you don't view it in that context you're making a huge gamble everything. Yeah everything would be viewed as inappropriate. There are all kinds of movies that you would have to say can air that one again. Kanner that one again. That's where i think he gets out of control. Ever show django unchained again with the language in that movie. Yeah they're going to. You're absolutely right. If they want to cancel everything they should just burn that film right. Yeah see i think. Django unchained the n. Word offers many many many thousands of times aired anymore. Then if that's the case yeah. I think again all this idea. You gotta take lincoln's name off the high school or washington's name off the high school all that jazz the state's change the state name. Seattle george seattle. Whatever why would you change. Seattle's name because it takes you taken washington's name off things got to change to talk about the state. Oh i see what you're saying. Yeah changed the eight. The nation's capital you've got to take that off to a good question. Yeah i i tell you what coming up. I've got a really. This is a great question for you. Michael great question for you john. It's an mba question. Today is the fifty ninth anniversary of something amazing in the nba. We'll talk about that coming up next for you. I thank you very much for listening to thank you very much for being out there michael thompson hanging out with us today. Today marks the fifty ninth anniversary. You guys know what of fifty ninth anniversary in the nba. Today fifty nine years of. Let me think what's a year. I do the math. you can google it anyway. two thousand. it's fifty nine. I know i know what it is. Do you give me the here chamberlain scoring one hundred dollars yes. So here's the question which nba player today is most capable of scoring one hundred and is this an unbreakable record. It's not an unbreakable record. I was there the night. Kobe had eighty one. And i've been at games. Cobi at sixty and three quarters The guy who who. Michael i tell me if you agree i think the guy who's playing in the league today that could do. It is durant score inside and outside. Yeah he gets him. He'll make us free throws You gotta shoot at least thirty free throws out. Imagine close to it to get filed a lot You gotta get hot from three because obviously wilted have three point shots. So you'd have to have a really hot first half you gotta go. Like twenty-seven gas in the first quarter games got to be competitive. Yeah well stay. Because i would like to have seen that came. Wasn't i mean i michael. I don't remember that game at all. Obviously one way for me. The wilt chamberlain hundred point game. Yeah but was it competitive to the end or was it just. I'm going to get two hundred hundred. No matter york was getting blown out there in the game fifty and sixteen points. This is what what that was the story with. Kobe's game right. Clay had sixty and twenty nine minutes. If you would have played the fourth he might have pushed eighty. But you gotta have you gotta have a lease close to fifty at halftime. Yeah to get a shot at got come out in the third and get just think about. Let's say you have forty eight and a half guys the third you got to come out and have another twenty seven that put you up to around seventy something and then you gotta have another twenty eight twenty seven in the fourth it. Se- it seems to. I mean. I think it's probably an unbreakable kind of think. We're ever gonna see anybody score a hundred and someone who's guest the eighty. Let's say with ten minutes left in the game scored eighty year leading. Yeah probably comfortably right and you can't stay in a game. I don't think you can just stay in a game. They should continue scoring in a non-competitive devon booker. Seventy the devon booker. Was that game so competitive evan. Blow up the celtics are up by thirty or something like that. And they just kept giving. The bullet devon celtics giggling. And what was the guardian. Yeah it well. Didn't michael didn't lisa leslie miller hundred point lisa less scored one hundred points and a half. I still want to do that. There's not enough time six dollars under the other half and they didn't pay the second half. I don't wanna stand how she had time to score hundred and sixteen minutes. That's all high school game. That game one zero two to twenty four. How is that possible one. Oh tutu twenty. Four it didn't. I don't think they played the second half or something like that. It's just forfeit or whatever but ireland. You can't score that quick a pace can you at sixteen minutes. When cheryl miller one hundred her team won one seventy nine to fifteen yeah other other players have had one hundred points on the lakers. I think a guy and a small college at one hundred points in college game. they're not gonna division three game. Something like that. I googled my one wagner had one hundred and a high school. Yeah right exactly. He had one and that's thirty. Two minutes of play yeah. I don't think we'll see it. I don't think we'll see it ago because if you're not if if the game's not competitive it's just a bad look to be in the game and still trying to reach one hundred points although people fancily like if a guy on record pace a historic pace. They wanna see him. Stand a game and chase it. It might be an insult to the opponents. But hey if you're the opponent stopped a guy they'll let us stop them exactly. I cleveland indians Everybody knows the story of mickey callaway. the pitching who was Run out of new york because he would not let female reporters alone. He would text them. He was very persistent. Hornbeck for that though. Well you then. What was he. He i mean he was. He was fired because he was a bad manager. The stuff about him in the the women didn't come out until yeah way way later came out like a month month two months ago maybe about a month ago he was andrew cuomo wing the women. Yeah yeah about. But but i mean michael in an incredibly i mean. Far beyond anything he was a he was he was sending depict. So yeah And you know that doesn't fly in any way. Now he was with the indians and the indians said originally. They were unaware of any inappropriate behavior. While calloway was there. That's what chris and twenty a antonetti said. he's the indians president of baseball operations. Now it turns out based on an insider that Both antonetti and terry francona knew this was going on and did nothing about it This means that almost. Certainly i mean you guys may disagree but almost certainly you blow up the entire front office and terry francona fire to what depends wh- who the owner is lindsay. Who's the owner there. Paul dolan the worst owner in sports is he. Is he related to james dolan. Yes there it says uncle or brother. Yeah they're related. James stolen probably wouldn't fire member. James dolan kept isaiah thomas on after he lost an eleven million dollar right. We'll harassment suit like it really depends on what the owner standard of conduct is okay. But if this guy and it's it seems to be sourced by the athletic there signing unsolicited pornographic material to female reporters in women in the organization and the indians knew about it and covered it up. You almost have to get rid of those guys. How do your home or something like that. Up there's twenty two people who came forward after the original article about mckelway came out twenty and what complicates it. Go ahead lindsey. sorry. I said there's twenty two people that came forward and said not only. Did the indians know about it. But we have proof that we've communicated with them about it. That's where i was going to go the linchpin in this. Mace is that when the first athletic article came out. The indians responded to it by saying we had no knowledge of this yet. There were no complaints filed in our human resources department. And when mickey. Calloway who's here. We didn't know anything like this was going on. And after they said that after they lied about that twenty two people came out and said oh. They're just this clogged up lately false. We've all complained about him. He's the worst kept secret there. So it's you know it's the old watergate line. It's not the crime it's the cover up. Sure i think guys out to fire them. I think they're out. But you're not guessing fired for this season are you. I think they get fired. Seventy two hour. I in the next two weeks for sure i agree. This week's yeah i disagree. I think that they will. They will be given a chance to one of their own was sending unsolicited pornographic material to female reporters and they covered it up. They've got to go okay. So if the mets new and they covered it up. Do those guys have to go. All the men have a whole new regime. None of those guys. Are there any of those guys. Were there then. Well hold on. Andy alderson was there. I guess if sandy alderson new if it's proven that sandy alderson new yes. I mean there's documented who hired him. Well they hired him in and he's gone well he's he's he's still suspended having we'll be gone right. Yeah so the angels did the right thing. Companies would do what you're suggesting most companies would say if you knew about it and you covered it up. You're out but sports are different. Sports our world. Where if you can throw one hundred miles an hour. S roberto as soon though teams a. Look the other way but there. There are badly coach badly. Put together team. That is going nowhere anytime soon. They're in a cellar mode. It's not as though we're firing these these guys who are bringing us to the promised land. The indians are a last placed team going absolutely nowhere that there's no reason not place team that are act going absolutely nowhere. That's a little harsh. They're going nowhere you have. They didn't last last year. Did that people that are picking them to win the division. All they do is sell every time they get a player there a seller so does most small market teams. That's what they do because they say that they can't compete. But i think important question here is what does this do with terry francona. Like what does this say about him like. He's he's a god in cleveland and he's the hall of fame right and he's never won anything but he's still for whatever reason he's a god in cleveland. Was you won. Three world series or two world series in boston. Hasn't won anything here though. So i don't think that lindsay wasn't he the manager of the year they lost to the cubs in seven games. Yeah the that. They lost him down to the last inning of the last game. Lost the last eight playoff series. They haven't won anything with him. As their manager period the almost won the world. let me make a correction. You're you're right. Lindsay the prokhoda kota projects. Them's have the indians with eighty. Six wins behind the twins. The twins are favored to win the division. The indians with eighty six wins. Third behind the white sox. Okay but they're not a last place team not a last place team correct. I miss. i didn't have that right attack. In cleveland it's lindsay's hometown. She's broadcasting from cleveland. Jim friday arguing that these guys should be fired. I think they should absolutely be fires. They aided abetted right. Yeah they they covered it up. They knew it going on and they did nothing. They're going to be fired. Joe go one step further. They're going to be fired whether they probably should. But if i mean you can tell me whether you disagree. This story isn't a surprise to any female reporter. I know they. They've been this stuff like this has been going on in most clubhouses for years. Sure but the fact that the dna went out of their way to deny it they held a press conference after that story came out just to address this and frank or antonetti went up there and stood up there and said we never had a complaint to hr. We never had a complaint which the indians lawyers spoke with one of these women's husbands because he was so adamant about making sure something got done about this and he filed a complaint with major league baseball and nobody did anything about it so for them to go up there and say nothing happened and that there. Is you know emails or phone. Call saying mickey just warrants. This go away like you know of a teen lawyer saying that. I think that's pretty egregious. Yeah i don't think. I don't think those guys survive. I think it'll be like mickey callaway. With the angels. They will be suspended. There will be two weeks or three weeks or a month or six weeks of investigation. Then they'll be gone. You can't keep you can't keep people that cover that off. Still in the organization mates. I'll just say this after zia. Thomas was found guilty. Yeah i know of sexual harassment and lost in eleven million dollar lawsuit. So he he. He was still employed by the knicks the entire time. He was on trial after he lost the trial after james stolen refused to fire him over that but that was before the metoo movement that was before women began to stand up and say look. This is what's going on. This is the way the world is and we will not stand for it. It was before that if they isaiah thomas thing had been free if it would have happened two weeks ago it would have been a much different. I strongly believe that stance on on the world series and whether or not guys should get in with the moral clause. Do you think that terry francona. 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Eight hundred five eight four four one one six eight hundred five eight four four one one six or visit their website at power pro plumbing dot com. I got games coming up for a couple minutes. After that four game losing streak which included that blowout loss to the utah jazz. The lakers still have the best defensive rating in the league. It will be tested tonight against inex- sons who've got Chris paul who's playing really well right now. Obviously devon booker and deondraye eight and that is a really good roster and monty. Williams has been really. I mean probably a coach of the year candidate if not the coach of the year right. Oh yeah and they were the hottest team in the nba in february along with utah they were twelve and three. In february devon booker today was named the nba player of the month. Western conference player of the month may may do you know what the spread is in this game tonight. I don't you. i do okay. Lakers going to guess lakers minus three and a half one one. That's how good this game figures to one. Yeah giving me two thousand dollars on the lakers minus the one. That is no help from door who has gone silent. Oh gee shocking door has gone silent. Yeah it's because you were busy this weekend. The the engineer. Michael can't even bet as a joke. No games. yeah. But i would never up game. That close spread that close. I would never do what you just did. That means like one guy could throw up but three pointer at the end. It just break your wreck. Your whole gang's on it's called mythical money it's not a real money exactly but i'm betting my real money by the way i lost three hundred dollars. I closed the account and curacao. Okay would you lose on. I lost on the lakers twice. Now lost on the super bowl okay and that was good this holding lift three hundred dollars. It's good discipline to close the account. Yeah i'm like no more no moss to learn. It's your game today right. It is my game okay. That's a good one. Yeah but this is going to be the last time. Well i'll be here tomorrow too but you know this is your opportunity. You've never won a month of game games as either in me or lindsey every month correct you one january and february you on six months in a row john. I think there one month in there that lindsay broke it up. Oh no lindsey as one twice but you on six months or lindsey one early you want a total of eight months lindsay onto. It's my game tomorrow. Yeah michael mike. Three choices and lindsay will make the choice micro. I want you to close your computer for this game coming up. You're accused of computer data down. I i didn't she lives. He found me innocent. Yeah but you found you not guilty. Lindsay's not here. Let's see let's facts. Yeah michael ascher were you allow bronstein or whore. Hey to turn off your computer for game a game. I'm offended. you still trust me. Right on untrustworthy again. Will you allow them to turn off. Because no because. I refuse to be offended that way. Okay charged with cheating. But i was found guilty. You're acquitted secure like the astros. We all know you did it. No we all you know you not admit to something. I did not do all right. All right. Coming up next for you is game of games. It's my game today. Mason ireland seven ten. Espn game of games time. It is sponsored today by power pro plumbing and heating. We thank them powerful professional affordable to they are. It's in their name. They are our plumber and they wanna be yours to call one eight hundred five eight four forty one sixteen and it is my game today so far in the month of march ireland is one twice. Lindsay has one once. We started the month early because ireland basically put us away in the month of february so the game today is called the birthday game. I will give you a fact about someone solar celebrating their birthday this month. You tell me if it's real or if it is made up. Bs right so ireland. Exactly fifty fifty shot ireland. You can play obviously mt lindsay and hor. Hey are we re so. Are you looking for the answer. You're looking for is a name of a person. No no no. I'm going to give you the person and tell you a fact about them. You tell me if it's real or if it's made up got it former new york city. Mayor michael bloomberg turned seventy nine this month. He's worth fifty four billion dollars which is amazing considering that he was born in staten island. Father that worked as a machinist and a mother. The work in sewing factory that factors that fiction ireland That's fact fact michael thompson fact fact lindsay. I'm gonna say fact. Fact jorges fact because michael google did you guys are totally wrong. I at entire story doing of cannot born in staten island at all right so nobody on the board twenty two year old tiktok star teddy. The shot is best known for his noon. Challenge where he does. A shot of a different day encourages his followers to do the same thing. Is that real or did i make that up. Michael fiction fiction. Lindsay fact fact horror fiction fiction ireland fact that it is totally made up. Bs there is no such tiktok. Star is teddy the shot. So it's michael jorges to nobody else. Everybody missed the first. We got to got to one. Horace going all right here. We go simpsons creator. Matt groening turned sixty seven this when creating his legendary animated tv family. He chose the real names of his parents in his actual sisters is that real or is that made up lindsay felt like that's a real real fact real ireland. I think it's real real. Michael is this simpson's i think. Oh yeah. I was thinking of a window south park. I'm gonna go real fact fact. It is fact yeah. His dad's name is homer and his mom's name is marge the sisters or his actual sister's name so everybody was on to that one all right just in the super bowl. Halftime show turns thirty one this month. The weekends parents maccagnan in somera immigrated to canada from ethiopia. Is that real or is that made up. I'll say fact fact ireland. i think that's true. Fact fact michael yeah. The emigrated from african country. So you're going to go fact fact and lindsay his real name is abraham and lindsay or his name is able maccagnan is stayed immigrate from ethiopia. Right so everybody got that one. It's michael three jorges. Hey three ireland to lindsey to rap legend and law and order star ice tea. Turn sixty three this month in the one thousand nine hundred five box office bomb called tank girl. He played a kangaroo. Ireland is that real or is that made up made up. Fake made up michael fixing fiction. Linzie real real whore hitchin. It is one hundred percent real. He did play a kangaroo and tank girl back in nineteen ninety. Five is weird as that may sound. So it is whore. Hey three lindsay. Three michael thompson three in ireland to who is coming from behind okay. Green day lead singer. Billie joe armstrong turns forty nine. This week. he met co bandleader. Mike durant at the apollo theater. Where i'm sorry daren't at the apollo theater where daren't was working as a sound engineer for baby face is that real resent made up michael thompson fiction fiction lindsay fiction fiction real real ireland. I need of. I need a win. So i'll go real. Nope totally made up mike. Dirt and billie joe armstrong when they were in highschool squirm demand. All the way back then to left. Let's go into that paulo. Linear michael johnson. Both have four island. Doesn't know what the apollo is not. Actually this is the last one. There will be a tiebreaker. But here we go film director. Michael bay director of movies like pearl harbor armageddon and transformers turns fifty six this month. He attended wesleyan university in connecticut. Where famous loans include lin. Manuel miranda and bill belichick. Is that factories at fiction. Michael and lindsay. You've got to go first since leading ladies first gonna fact fact michael thompson fiction fiction ireland. Well that case me out of it. Because they i'm gonna go fact fact and horray. Hey i'll go fact fact. It is an absolute fact like away winter. Wesleyan lin manuel. Miranda went to westland bill. Belichick went to westland some very famous alums. That means lindsay wins the game today. She's now one weiss in the month of march gonna win march street. Lindsay is lindsay is rolling to lindsay. Hot i'm sure you've heard guy before. Let's do the tiber just for fun. Ready tiebreaker just for five galileo known as the father of modern science. He's the guy who invented the telescope among many other things. His birthday was february fifteenth. What year was he born. No googling michael what year was he born Start with you ireland. Come to closest to it right. Yeah closest to it. I will just guess. Sixteen hundred sixteen hundred says ireland michael fifteen sixty four. You are just a jerk. Told you i told i told you are just it on the news. Such of not cow. Galileo and only astronomers tapes. Four right off the top of your yes. this is about. Astronomy is one of my hobbies. Do google that. He pretty quick didn't major major stretch classes. I took a lot of classes and straw. Candle michael company george coming here. Look you'll see. I haven't talked to my computer history now. You know the game. I knew i knew he was born in fifty six. When did he die within three seconds. Answer this okay. When was copernicus born copernicus the other astronomer famous your head fifteen forty four fourteen seven win is isaac newton born. Who's another one to three. Couldn't get you tackle gorn. Hubble bubble was born in the eighteen hundreds eighteen ninety two eight hundred eighty nine c. Stuff man you actually. Don't you actually did. Just strana me tonight. The latest will turn the sons into a into a white to off. Hey this is ours will come out tonight. Were coming up with a white dwarf is mace i do. It is a planet that Not a planet asteroid or a sub plant is a As a star star the sun out with the sun was going to become a white dwarf often going to be exhausted nuclear fuel and five billion years the sun will become a white dwarf which will be the size of the earth so it is a burnt out star star. yes expanded. It's google that by the way i do. What is a white dwarf. And that's what came up by the way speaking about the nba. What's going on the all star game. Ireland mason and lindsey our out of the car test zion miles bridge just anthony edwards jalen brown in. Okay i dunno test you on this to see if you can get it in the dunk on team. These guys play for ireland. You go last in case get. Ob topping i know. Oh yeah oh top. We played most dope. He's he's in the gic. Nope george indiana. He's a nick. Cashier steadily ever heard of him. Oh yeah cashiers. We'll see play for. He plays for indiana very good. That's right and and simon so we play for lindsay. No clue mace. You know this he was just here he was just here. He plays for utah. Yes nope george. We played anthony. Anthony simon's western conference team portland. What those guys are in the dunk out this but none of the big stars wanna do it. You know what they need to do guys they listen. Listen to me up the prize. Money to one million dollars to the winners. Not a bad idea. Half goes to the charity half goes to the guy not a bad idea. That is the end of the show. Don't forget coming up next for you is sodano and then lakers pre-game mason ireland seven ten espn.
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So if you want more information on the Mazi lineup including the first ever see thirty goat Amasi USA dot com slash iheart, and don't forget to explore their strongest finance options. You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox sports radio. A lot of reaction from yesterday Kevin Harlan from CBS they're great announcer was on I had fritzy do his Kevin Harlan impersonation with a couple of football calls and that was a lot of fun. Kevin. Had A great time there. Todd, you did you did a pretty good Kevin Harlan impersonation. Awesome that we sent them the script of a couple of calls and he was a good sport to play along like then. Very cool. Can we play a little bit of that? Do we have the final call between Todd Fritz and Kevin Harlan? Final round here to decide the Kevin Harlan game if you're just joining. US Patrick Mahomes as added once again, the chiefs trailed by twenty one point now, they're down just four with under a minute ago. The single setback Hilaire mahomes rolls back. He's got Travis Kelsey in the back corner both. Touchdown Kansas City. Wow, that was a great call cab. That call. Here's the final call. Here if you're just joining us that it again, she's trail by twenty. Now they're down just four with under a minute to go the single back. Is Edwards e layer all enrolls right? He's got calcium back corner pulsating touchdown that she's have scored. You had Sunday enthusiasm and Kevin Harlan did not what happened. There was the broadcaster for the team play against the chiefs that he had the Thursday enthusiasm you had game day enthusiasm and you sounded more like Kevin Harlan than Kevin Harlan. Yes. He says more like Kevin was calling Thursday game. Yeah. Does it usually a bad exciting not as exciting and last night was not too exciting either the dolphins beat up the Jaguars. PAC twelve mountain west or get to play this fall the mid American conference decide either today or tomorrow Lakers up three one, they go for these series clinching. Win on Saturday. and. The NBA, finals Miami Heat. Try to put away the Boston Celtics tonight up three games to one as well. We welcome those in or watching on peacock. You can download the APP and you can watch for free all three hours and our radio affiliates around the country also say hello to chat row and Tyler your moderator mclovin. We're going to stay with the same poll question here. we get switched up. We asked if you should expand eight college football teams for the playoff and now eighty percents. Yes. So I think we have some popular movement there. I don't know why somebody would be a hold out here I'm okay if they want to expand it to eight teams. Given. This year has been unprecedented and you could get some more revenue back into some of these athletic departments like I'm okay. With that. I also wondered about these MVP odds because. Seen that second year quarterback make a jump whether it's Patrick. mahomes Lamar Jackson is Kyle Murray that player this year is Josh Allen going to be that Guy Right. Now, Russell Wilson is the leading candidate for the MVP. No players ever won the MVP while playing for a team with a losing record only two players have won it while playing on teams that missed the playoffs and both of those were over forty years ago and both had. Decent team records I know when OJ rush for two thousand yards, the bills went nine and five johnny united in one, thousand, nine, hundred, sixty, seven, they lost the division tiebreaker to the rams both. The colts were eleven one in two, and the rams were eleven one and two. What are the odds of two teams in the same division ending up with two ties but johnny united. Simpson won the award even though the missed the playoffs and that's you know that could hurt cuyler Murray because I don't know Arizona's going to make the playoffs Seattle is GonNa be there rams appear to be a little better than I thought. I. Thought that the niners would take a step back with these injuries. They're certainly taking a step back at least in the first half of the season. Dak. Prescott. They didn't even win the division last year. They got to win it this year. He's going to be up there for the MVP race. Aaron. Rodgers is in the top five but if I was looking for a dark horse there, Josh Allen would be a guy because if they win the division and put up, you know maybe eleven wins and he has some good good numbers there. Maybe maybe he'd be the guy. A, he doesn't play in. Marquee Games. He doesn't he didn't get that. That standalone game. I think that when he beat Dallas when Buffalo beat Dallas last year that was one of those coming out parties where we wow Josh Allen he's pretty good. Now Josh Allen can give and take the way. He's got to cut down on I don't mind if you run. But if you run make sure you protect yourself and he does not protect himself. Cam Newton would be another guy that I would take a chance on if they win, he has a good story there as well. And you go to New England replacing Tom Brady nobody wanted you, and if you somehow end up with ten wins this year. Put up some good numbers and good rushing numbers. and. I've had some Patriot fan say you know you always said the Tom Brady didn't have any weapons but Cam Newton is throwing those same weapons and I said, well, I will say that what Belichick has done is established the run with Cam, and that does help these guys who can't get open on their own very often they can. They have a better chance of some separation there and we're gonNA find out if Nikiel Harry can actually play the position Eshelman we know. Can they just kind of throw together wide receivers and Cam? I think giving that thought that element of surprise of running gives these wide receivers, a little better opportunity to get open. Yeah. Paulie not for the. MVP But for the month of August and the rams could have interesting month because the rams are to, and now no one picked on the B. Two. Now they have Buffalo New York Washington San Francisco Chicago Miami. There's five win a very winnable games out of six in San Francisco is hurt. So in their next six games, obviously, they got a long way to go but nobody talks about the rams preseason after the burn of the year and a half ago but the rams could have a really nice start really good first half. Yeah and they have a great defense or at least you have to marquee players at key positions on defense if Jared Goff is able to. Reclaim that magic and Sean. McVeigh maybe. They're the surprise team. I expect Seattle to be there. Seattle's got to get better defensively I don't know how you get better defensively but. They better. It better happen because it feels like in that division, Arizona might steal one from you. In the Rams appear a little bit little bit better a little further along than we thought yet club don't have. An April may Bet I gave a shower shame or something crazy the rams winning the division. I'm almost sure police force me to do it and you said the rams will win the division. Yeah. Am I on the receiving you're not at all it was it was a solo me and I think I win something big and I don't even know why predicted it. You Win something. Big. Yeah. I'll have bob. Schmidt. Our sound guy pull it. But I picked the rams and May to win the division. I have no idea why they were in. Would you be bringing? Idaho until Paulie read that soft schedule, I wasn't going to bring it up either. But now he's got me all in. We'll talk to Michael Thompson. He does the radio analysis for the Lakers and get his thoughts on this team and how good they are as they got by the nuggets. It wasn't pretty they wanted at the free throw line which was the. Total that I was keeping an eye on. Lebron ad both going to the line over ten times. Yokich got into foul trouble there. Jamaal Murray is still tough to defend Lebron. Lebron credit. Here, he is at age thirty five and he's going to he wants to guard Jamal Murray, whose what twenty four in the final five minutes of the game. He asked to do that and did a pretty good job on it. I. As he said, it's winning time and I respect that you went out there and did his best to slowdown Jamal, Murray and they pick up the victory. Let me get a couple of phone calls in here Kevin in Virginia. Hey Kevin would you have for me today? Dan. To the question. Sure. Instead of eighteen playoff. What if the NC Double A. Did a sixteen play off each conference gets a bit and there's one at large teams wanted to get a by three plays six warplanes five. Well I propose that a while ago and I think we're headed for that Kevin but. Yeah, thanks for revisiting that but I think that's where we're headed eventually. Yeah. I I would I would bet that SEC would veto that one because if the SEC saw that everyone gets one in, they think someone else has taken away spot from them. The SEC would think okay if the sixteen playoff and we we get one plus one will probably be our. So we'll get to they're thinking to themselves. If we have an eighteen playoff, we get three teams in. Yeah. But they're only one voice there only one vote at the table there. Everybody, else is going to go. Thanks tough. You know we gotta get. We gotta get a pack twelve. School in there. Somehow SEC's never been more powerful than they are currently. Yeah. But they only have one vote at the table they're powerful but you know what are these other commissioners going to say? Oh. Okay. All. Right. We'll shift three. Just not gonNA happen at least I wouldn't let it happen I'm looking at the college football rankings. I don't know what it's based on Clemson is to know. So they're number one Alabama hasn't played their number two Oklahoma's three Georgia hasn't played there for Florida hasn't played their five Lsu six. They haven't played Notre Dame to know their game. This weekend was postponed dacoven. Auburn hasn't played their eight Texas WANNA know they're a nine and then Texas am is ten they haven't played. North Carolina in their sure they are. The you is in their. Cincinnati. Got Army coming up this weekend. Is there any other stranger teams in here Cincinnati's been there before marshals in the top twenty five armies in their? Virginia Tech hasn't played there in their. Pittsburgh is in their. Army what if army goes undefeated? They could there to know and they've got a lot of mishmash teams coming up after Cincinnati Abilene Christian. Don't sleep on the CITADEL UTSA MERCER Air Force to the army's got to run the table. Yeah. If, you had a a national title game of Army Versus Alabama, army, versus Clemson. That would be cool. I'll take I'll take a arbor army in the first half very I have cover for army. Absolutely I also saw the NFL's top ten backfield. Now, these are just running backs. Aren't they mclovin this doesn't this doesn't include your quarterback. This is current, right? Yes. This is from NFL DOT com topped him back. Okay. I keep saying the browns the best backfield in the NFL. You've been saying that since last year you were hired. Leon. Where do they rank? Believe. They are numerous. Okay. Yes. There one. Okay. Where does But see they have two running backs. I'm trying to think how many other teams have that diversity that luxury their. Advocate now that I'm reading this list, there's some silly ones on here and like Tampa Bay buccaneers are four with leading for net and Ronald Jones. That's creek. Well, you have to have to if I'm saying the best backfields. You know it feels like it's plural that there's two guys in there you know with the quarterback. So the backfield. Backfield is the best running back. Leonard for was got basically released and Ronald Jones was always people entrusts ever remember Cam Newton gone released to unbelievable I mean Leonard Fournette ran well last week. Packers gotta be there guests right there too. Okay. But what's that based off of you're right I like this one Baltimore with JK Dobbins Gus. Edwards and Mark Ingram okay. Now, that one I at least understand because you have three other three runningback their. steelers got two running backs. You've got snow and you got James Kana. So I I would think they might be in the pictures well. Kind of misleading top ten list feels like. But. I think the guys arguing that you need to running back right now that the era of the running back by committee. I I understand that. But now this is one of the weirder listening Okay Rams with Malcolm Brown and Darryl Henderson. That's not even who they plan to have camakers got hurt. You sent me the list I know I should have read it. I. I. We have a new in she pull opposite from Paulie. All right. Let me get to Jesse in Wisconsin. Then we'll get to the interesting poll option page s would you have for me today? EP Boy thought she flow and Oh everything's great we got. we got jump Eliah. solid. You gotta five ten swimming one maingate going on here right now by the way. I wanted to propose to you guys may not think of a save a couple bras and make a nice little scrambler in the morning. That could be that topic could be broached but thank you there Jessica. Scrambled eggs with bronze yes mclovin. Okay are discussing this poll question, which should be permanent. Shorter Major League baseball season shorter NBA season. Or College football starting a little later late September instead of end of August early September. I don't want college football to start later. I'm okay. With at the end of August first week in September I'm okay with that. Baseball shorten the regular season I'm for that what was the other one? NBA shortly. I have to pick one or only get to pick one. I would pick baseball. It that that's just a that's just a slog baseball seasons of smog. It's just like Oh my God, even the sixty games as amazing as that may sound felt like it was interminable. Thank you just and their speeding up the process. They got doubleheaders that are seven innings. They're starting extra innings with a guy at second base. You've just gone. Let's postseason start. WHO's in the postseason? Is it best. At the best of five best is seven and where are they going to be located Just like they threw it into a blender just said, let's spin it and then we'll pour it out and then hopefully people will consume it. Yes. If baseball didn't have regular season, how much more baseball would you watch? I I bet a ton. If if they didn't have any regular season or if they had like a a quarter of regular C., let's say they played. Twenty Five Games oh no, that's more than they don't don't rest all your starter if they if they played twenty five games, I'd watch baseball. But you're not watching so much baseball now. Yeah. But it doesn't matter of it matters. Well, it kind of does not really. How about they cut down on the playoffs, the number of playoff teams, and then you have like twenty each team plays thousand five games, and then only a couple teams get in, they should either get rid of the regular season or get rid of the playoffs. One of the other eliminate the regular season everybody makes the playoffs right and it's just one long tournament, right which is. Yes mclovin. You're alive. You guys wouldn't even watch that. person. WHO's GonNa tune in until the world series I watched four innings of a baseball game because I couldn't find a remote the other day. My daughter wouldn't help me look true story. Yes. That's a lot of basement watch Paul, four innings as like three and a third. How did you do it? They switch pitchers and again I just think that you can't make a pitching change in the middle of an inning. Like that would be a a rule that I would have. There'd be a few other ones in there. I'd make the game seven innings. And no pitching change in the middle of an inning. What if you had a swing at every pitch, you know how `bout you get two strikes and three balls. Now at that. All in favor say Aye. All oppose. Yes time, what do you make a foul ball with to strike strike three like as if you're wondering? 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I said yesterday I'm looking at the rebounding differential between the Lakers and nuggets and I was looking at how many free throws the Lakers shot in particular Lebron and Lebron AD shot over thirty free throws combined. Here is the head coach of the Nuggets Mike Malone. Saying that he's going to do with frank, Vogel did blading the game I thought Jamal Murray attack the basket a few times where it appeared to be contact. So we'll watch the film and we'll send clips in will reach out to the NBA and kind of make our points noted and Whether them going through the proper channels affected tonight or not I have no idea. The NBA does a great job of listening and that hardly you know you hope that next game. Maybe some of those fouls or call. All right. Mike Malone, next game coming up on. Saturday Michael Thompson. The Lakers radio analyst who time NBA Champ joining us on the program. Been Awhile Michael Thank you for getting up and joining us just a coincidence that the Lakers had all those free throws or do you think this was something that was carried out premeditated? No, not at all Dan and the Lakers much more aggressive in getting four game three and they reward for that aggressive. Basket they were playing physical, and that's the nature of the NBA and guys who play coaching. This league for a long time should understand that sometimes he goes the calls are going to go your way some games sometimes go against you and that's something you have to play through when when you're not getting any calls, you got to buckle down Bentley get messed with offer and say, okay, we're not gonNA call tonight we gotta find a way to win the game as opposed to always looking at the referee and hoping to get bailed out and that goes for the Lakers and nuggets. I don't know if it's just because of the number of games they played in a a finite amount of time in the bubble but this is the first time I can remember seeing Lebron where. I, I'm seeing an older Lebron he's still can be brilliant takeover a game He knows his role. There is a good deal of time last night where he sort of faded out and wasn't a factor here. Am I reading too much into this Michael, though it has to catch up with him at some point, but it feels like he almost has to pick his spots a little more than he ever did before. Dr Yeah Thirty Five Years Eight Athlete nineteen years and do his career Dan nuts seventeenth is you add in all the playoff games he's played two years of playoff basketball to exit year. So nine, thousand, nine, hundred. Thirty five and having the got beat a guy to carry a team every TV on I think a lot of the lots toll on your body and sure he has to pick his spot that thirty five years. There's nothing wrong with that all the great players, colby? Michael. Jordan Kareem they all had to do with thirty five or forty years of age and the good thing about Lavar, as you got the second best player in the game citizen depend on to carry the team Anthony. Davis. So he doesn't have to carry for forty minutes he had in the past. Why can't I do this every night because. He's too unselfish. He's such a good teammate that if he demanded twenty five south to nine thirty tonight, he put up these kind of numbers. That's how great unstoppable is at. But you know the the bunch of other champions on his team guys who've been there done that Lebron. Danny. Green. They'll Javale McGee Jr Committee gets the. Game? Six champion Squawk resigned Rhonda. They've got six guys on the team who won there been there done that one championship and he knows that, yeah, I can go out and be selfish and try to score forty every night for those guys'll have with me. They know how to win so he understands that and he allows those guys to do their thing to. Why do we still marvel at playoff? RONDO OR WE SEEM SURPRISED WITH PLAYOFF RONDO Because a lot of people don't understand all the little things. He does help the team, win a championship. He's talked minded a competitor. He'll go out and get the rebounds. He's throwing excellent pather knows how to lead a team you've been doing. Worke and Boston and a lot. That's a lot of people. He doesn't. He doesn't put up the big numbers like a Steph or Daniel Lillard or those type of guards. So people overlook and understand all the little things he does to help the team win tapping Jeff. He never looks like he's having any fun Michael. Not The look on the Michael Jordan. Having Fun Kobe when they're out there. A Little Bit Mondo places and I love that about him. Who is the role player that has to play well for this team to win a title That's a great question because the Lakers have many good from. Alex cruiser the Dwight Howard to Kau Ku. But I I would say if you need a guy to step up. Especially to win the next round. they're all important. But if I, if you made me think about one guy I guess I would be coup because coups learn has the ability to come off the bench and you'd be twenty points and sort of do with Jeremy Grant is doing for Denver in this series. Of the talented skills to get the Lakers twenty points, a game or eighteen twenty game and the final once they get there. Let's move ahead. Let's just say the Miami Heat and the Lakers face off in the finals. Give me like handicap that matchup like what kind of headaches problems with the heat give the Lakers. But let go balanced. So well coached they played copy then spread the ball around a like Denver. They moved the ball. Well, it got shoot us all over the floor especially now with the emergence of hero. So there, well, balanced team ever well-balanced attack it on depend on one guy to carry them every night, it could be Jimmy. One. Night drug. Dragging in that, the next night could be he wrote a book the showing up this Jay cloudy can knock down three very versatile team that. That's the thing the Lakers play and they're well coached and that Pat Riley style. These Michael. Thompson the Lakers radio analyst two time NBA, champion the Lakers plus if you had Lebron and he had to go back to Miami now, that would be a juicy storyline because those fans wouldn't be happy to see him. But the fact that they're going to be in the bubble you know you're GONNA neutralized that you're gonNA take that off the table. So that would be an advantage for the Lakers, but then they don't have that homecourt advantage. So it's probably evens itself out. You feel that way. These playoffs. So different this year, Dan, even though the Lakers all create one. Because, they're not going back to La for game five. No. Thanks for grabs because the on a neutral court sterile court. So not being a funnier home fans makes all the different in the world and you're right what an atmosphere that would have been for games three and four in Miami La was coming out there. We definitely misses we can't have this happen again. Were you on the Lakers when magic that Hook shot in the Boston Garden? You, bet I was I was right there on the bench had a great you of it on the court with them but. That was like the last of possessions rally got me out of the game. So I wouldn't. Do. You remember what the play was was was magic supposed to take that showed. No that was kind of like off of a looking inside the Korean and but then Kevin Mchale Switzerland on address Matic said Oh. You know what? I can take this little and that's when he can then did that little running hook across the lane and you know what? Not Shot. You look at that highlight again, if he would've missed that Corinne was right there for the put back dunk, there's nobody walked on. Green Robert Parish and Mikhail with act magic. Johnson even magic list we were going to win between was going to tip duck it anyway how crazy was that atmosphere when when you guys? That game ended in just trying to get to your locker room and I remember being in that locker room and it was so hot in there. No air conditioning. It was so tight. It was just chaos in there. What do you remember about that shot goes in? I'll intense about that whole scene wasn't the Boston Garden hose co a craze. Those fans are GonNa say Love Your Celtics, and now the you could cut the atmosphere with a knighthood was so thick attention was so sick every minute of the game even warm-up you knew that this is a totally different from just playing any kind of a regular game going south, End Boston, and the final the Lakers nothing and ball will ever compared to that tougher facing magic or bird. I'm going to Atlantic, of course. Bird is Berg man you know he was seized among the all time greats. Ten greatest ever played a game. The way he competed he wasn't GonNa be friends with anybody shake anybody's before the game he was he was like bill lamb veal with more talent and not as dirty. Did. He talk trash to you I. Did I was trying to listen but he would tell you. You know you shouldn't be on me. You can't guard me take this one with you being knocker shot down on you but I just tried to ignore it because there was nothing like a do about anyway if I didn't let it hurt my feelings. Do you think your son is the best shooter in NBA. History. Of course I do of course are dealt thinks except Steph is Bradley Beal father that the is Lilith that he is. But yeah, I, mean honestly players in the end the compensation and he should be I one thing. and I've told him this and I other people on record and on the year I think the warriors when they had Kevin Durant, they had the three greatest shooters on the same team in history I. Don't see anybody could assume that. Durant durant a great shooter. You thought you wondering about that did you watch you play with the warriors and you see all those great shopping was knocking down from everywhere? Yeah. He sees a mid range jumper. He's got knocked now to. The finals against in the Bronx. I knew blaming you are east coast you're up too late or whatever. So but I watch every warriors game with. That man he is uncanny how well he can shoot cold Michael. Michael I've been watching NBA Games. I remember you in College. So I've I've watched a lot of basketball and I think Kevin Durant is one of the top five shooters probably in the history of the game I was just having fun and so. You understand. I don't know we'll ever see a team like we the with three dive I got on the same thing I. Don't think we'll ever against. I, think that Steph has done more for the game than Michael Jordan did for the game. For that to say that I don't know. I. Mean Obviously, staff is in the face of the League. For years I don't know man Michael. Jordan. Arguably the greatest player ever either him or choline. But look at the impact though Steph has had Michael everybody thinks. You have guys who've come into the league and they think they can be nobody thought they could be Michael Jordan. And Kobe what are you talking about now? No but they're you know they're they're more people playing basketball more kids playing basketball. Think they can be steph curry than can be like Michael. Jordan would you say that's fair okay okay. So that's That's an impact like trae young is in the NBA. He's a byproduct of Steph. Curry. Michael Jordan is responsible for coding. Kobe even said that well, how do you compare say guys like trae young ones be when you have guys like Kobe and Dwayne Wade who wanted to be Michael. dwayne Wade wasn't Michael Kobe was pretty damn close to Michael but there's only a couple of guys. They're more guys who have that ability to shoot deep because Steph curry I just think his legacy will be He. He made it. Cool for little little smaller players to think they could play in the NBA that you didn't have to jump out of the gym. You didn't have to be exceptionally big and I think. That steph Curry's legacy on this sport. Oh, that's a great point. You know you look at Michael Jordan, he was a physical specimen six foot six wiry strong. You might not every kid's GonNa. beat way. But steph when he came into the League, look like he's one of the ball boys and. That encourage other kids as he can do it. I can do you're right about that. But imagine if he played against the Celtics back then in the eighties like book, how much would they have just the Pistons Badboy? They would've roughed him up right because you could vote. Doesn't matter Dan Steph the top competitor just let us pretty boy looked. Doesn't back down from anybody in great players like south they could play in any era. I don't care who is playing against what are you GonNa do you can't stop the way he gets a shot off from that range there's nothing to do you can put your. You could put your hand on them. Be Far more physical so it'd be harder for him to get to his spots. You're not. You're not giving him credit the way he can get round guys stepped up some of the best ball handling skills. You've ever seen him as an entire Irving Isaiah Thomas. Tim Hardaway those guys you put to handle the ball having they can get away from. What if I have you in clay versus Steph in Del People always asking that question who would win the curry's killer They don't miss the our be of such A. Hindrance. I can't shoot like Dell Dell would go around me knock down three soon as Silica Thompson Smith I would do then the curry would take over. If it's hit a take. You know then they would. They would want. To eleven by one. Nine. Shots. But. If I at your peak at in your prime and and Dell and his prime, how would you guys do? Then going through eleven by one it was be eleven to six because I would miss and play with the mad at me. For weeks because I look game because I couldn't keep up with Dell I know the Beatles I'm not. So I, have a big ego but I I'm probably not to admit. It's great to catch up with you Michael as always we appreciate your time. Thanks for joining us. Any GRANDDAD. Good to talk to you never turn down Dan the man. Thank you. Michael Michael Thomson Lakers radio analyst who time NBA Champ been a while since we've had him on but. That scene was so chaotic in the Boston Garden. And it was so hot in June in Boston and they you know the crowd runs onto the floor and you got the Lakers are just knocking people out of there just to get to the locker room. And I went into the locker room because you're doing postgame coverage and you're just trying to get interviews and it was it was just crazy. Just crazy. Yeah Paulie we're watching the clip over here right now you after Magic's shot you don't remember remember what happened next because the place is going crazy that didn't end the game bird had a shot in the corner right? Bird is being covered by my. Thought worthy loss to kind of a bird. The scenery pretended he was cutting towards the basket and he just stayed out there and did a total push off Michael. Kubrick. He had a great look from three and he caught the back iron and Burgess stands a second looking at like he can't believe he. Yeah and he should have hit that because that was that that's what he does. Yeah mclovin Michael is right. Kareem was wide open for the put back now I didn't remember that either the I didn't either. I just remember when he made that Hook shot in the Boston Garden went silent and club we're looking at the video. The crowd is so on top of the court, do you remember it being very close? Yes extremely. Like that was that's one of those true home court advantages and the benches are right there and. It it was a because that was when Larry and magic at their peak in Kareem was still contributing and. You know that was. That was that was some real distance I don't know hatred but there was certainly dislike there between those two and that was wonderful rivalry. Great. Great to have you know up close seat watching that those games even when the rockets had Akeem and Ralph Sampson and they played the Celtics in the Boston Garden and Robert Reid think was the guy was guarding Larry Bird and David. McRae. One of the McRae brothers. Not Scooter Rodney mccrae. Just great stuff and I remember at the time Craig. Yellow. Wasn't good enough to play for the rockets but he would workout for an hour prior to the game and then you fast forward to Craig. Hilo. Becoming a starter for the Cleveland Cavaliers and then he's the guy that gets poster is with Michael Jordan when he hit that game winning shot. I will take a break last call for phone calls. We'll close up shop after this Dan Patrick. Show thanks for listening to the Dan Patrick Show podcast. Be sure to catch US live every weekday morning nine until noon eastern six to nine Pacific on Fox sports radio, and you can find us on the iheartradio APP at Fsr or stream it live on the peacock out. Last call for phone calls coming up. My thanks to chip Kelly Ucla Michael Thompson Lakers radio analyst woody page from around the Horn and the mothership here. All right. Results poll question mclovin. Okay. So we put up last hour, which do you want to say permanent shorter NBA season shorter. Caesar late September Sharp College football shorter, but it's close a lot of people say shorter MBA as well. This change sports history Paulie a bunch from Dan nineteen sixty, five Willie mays at the age of thirty four became the oldest man hit fifty home runs in a season. He also had the record for the being the youngest person to hit forty home runs in a season video marines and the season a twenty four. Page at age fifty, nine pitched three shutout innings versus the Boston. Red. SOx Fifty nine and you wonder what he would have been like if he was given the opportunity to pitch. You're doing that in your fifties. And you know we talk about Jackie. Robinson there were other players, Josh? Gibson. Was the one that I would have been most curious about how great he would've been because by all accounts those who played with and against him in the Negro Leagues talked about him being. Babe Ruth like player. Nineteen ninety-three Dan Charles Barkley was the guest host of Saturday night live. Can you guess the musical guest? Nineteen ninety-three. About as good as it gets. For Nineteen, ninety-three is a good one nirvana. Nirvana's correct now nirvana new valen ear Vanna Sean Salisbury once two thousand one my. Ll. Cool. J. From now. Lorena Jay and Sean Salisbury was one of the Co host with me. Do. You have the quote from Salisbury Berry was talking to Dagoes Ju- listen to other bands like Nirvana and L. L goes. Never van a tough day. Barclay feet up. WHO's the purple? Stuffed animal barring Barney Oh. Yeah. I think Barclay beat up Barney on that Saturday night live two thousand and one. Michael Jordan announced returned to the NBA as a player for the Washington Wizards. Two thousand one. Kyle and California joining us on the program Kyle. Welcome back what do you have for me? They DP hey, but I, you're you're totally right on Lebron He's not quite the same guy. He's exerting themselves a lot more especially on defense. You know goes cavs team you know stick them on Harrison Barnes or whatever, and he comes to play weakside. He can't really do that anymore and then the whole nuggets free-throw saying they've shot the same amount for four games before last night's game but nuggets have shot twelve more for each other than the Lakers so. If Lebron suits, two free throws and again I think I just taught. Quote Kyle, Korver said when he plays against Lebron, you think he gets every call and play with them doesn't get nearly enough. And you're probably right but I did say keep an eye on those totals for him. You know has gone to the line and I think they're the exact number of free throws in this series so far with these teams. But as they move forward does Denver get a little bit more leeway here coming up and also sometimes the team that just lost comes back in his in his more aggressive minute just natural and I think you saw that with the Lakers but it dawned on me last night. And having seen Lebron first time I. met him. He was still in high school. and He has played in one thousand nine seasons when you think about it when he's played to full postseasons. It catches up with everybody we know that but sometimes it's dramatic. Sometimes, it's very subtle and with Lebron I think it's been subtle last night was the first time I saw him where I went. He can't be what he wants was where you just take over a series. Now he can take over a game I don't know if he's capable of taking over series. You know maybe he proves me wrong against the Miami Heat I still expect them to win the title but. This is where he's so smart. He understands he's got I. I have to make sure Anthony Davis feels like he's the go-to Guy. He's The star I want him to be the best player on the floor Lebron deep down feels like he's still the best player in the game I mean that's why he was saying, Hey, I was p owed that I didn't get many. First Place Votes for the MVP I think deep down he knows what the Greek freak did was more impressive. But when we don't factor in Lebron, doing what he did at this age degree of difficulty, I don't think factored into the MVP I would factored it in because I. Think what he did you lead the League in assists you go through the West because remember. A ticket to the NBA finals because he's in the east. I would still love to have the Lakers, go into Miami if they were playing in the finals. That's put. All Miss. The most of those two teams face each other just to see how the Miami Heat fans react but we're such hypocrites like Lebron. Left us. You didn't feel bad for Cleveland when he left Cleveland. And then you just wait for it's like a guy who? Steals. His wife from some other guy, and then he complains when she leaves him. She left me. Yeah. She left some other dude to. Let's go around the room. What we learned on the program. I'll start back left with odd. 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I was going to say the y'all. Let's get more into Klay Thompson, and his dad. Michael Thompson brought to you by indeed used by over three million businesses for hiring post a job today at indeed dot com slash higher on the lower with us right now again you heard his name, you know, he's the father of Klay Thompson when he was a champion as a player with the Los Angeles Lakers. He's a radio hosted ESPN LA. He's my buddy. But also a highly highly highly opinionated and provocative and informed boxing fan. Evidently, I'm talking about the one and only Michael Thompson, right here with Steven A on ESPN radio and ESPN news. What's going on, man? How you doing? How's everything? Never been so intimidated and all my life. I played against Korean problem hardest Gilmore played against Patrick Ewing, but I've never faced Stephen a Smith one on one. So if I saw a little Tim data here, America, forgive me all you level. Oh, please. I'm the one that need to be intimidated going up against you. I know who I'm dealing with here before I even get into the basketball stuff for you. I couldn't believe you know months ago even a couple of years ago when, when you an our debate in boxing, you was talking so much about the sport of boxing. Evidently, you got a problem with people like myself, who heard, what Deontay wilder said about one in the kill Dominic Brazil this Saturday night at the bar. They send a clearly, we don't condone that level of hyperbole. But I didn't think it was a big deal at all Michael Thompson. Why did you first of all I am a big while the fan I love to watch incites but he went too far and this one it's any this word you wanna put in their disc. Ace Phyl distasteful. Disrespectful, disgusting and discouraging, especially to the casual boxing fan pool already may thinks even eight a boxing is barbaric sport. And to hear those comments come from the champion who is supposed to set the example of being a sportsman and the Bassett of the sport. It's an ignorant statement. It's stupid, Ali and Frazier. Stephen a Smith. Maybe you're too young to remember the greatest rivalry in the history of sports and not just in boxing. But all the sports, those two hated each other, and they never stupid, this low level, this lowest level on, on my heart. Michael didn't Allie Allie, call Joe Frazier guerrilla. Let's I didn't he get into real put just say, did he do that. Did he do that? Yes. He did. Obviously, you can't do that today. And that's an insult he called he called Joe Frazier, Tom insulting and razor was very upset about that, but he never talked about. I want to kill Joe Frazier in the ring. You can't compare the two Stephen Smith. Well, I'm not comparing it Michael Thompson. But what I'm saying to you is this could not could it not be an engagement in hyperbole, not condoning it? But I'm just saying boxes talk. He didn't talk about doing anything illegal. He talked about this. Right hand no, you to sleep. And what have you, right? We've always heard, and say, I wanna knock this guy. I have never heard a box of say, I want to have a death on my record. How'd you ever heard of boxers say that Stephen Smith? No. I have not. No. I have not rabble. Sal. How do you how do you just so casually dismissed this, what Stephen I slipped? Let me ask you a question. If we saying the hood. What if our defensive back set about a wide receiver, you know, when I talk, this guy I want a crippling I want to turn them into a quadriplegic was that'd be okay. We because that the moment of the. No, no, no. It would not be fair, and it would not be good with me on a couple of reasons. Again, I'm not condoning it just like I'm not condoning this now while the wouldn't condone that, but also keep in mind that, that defensive back is hitting a defenseless receiver when you get into the ring that is a relatively bar. Barrick sport. We do understand that the intent is to do bodily harm to one another. We do understand that the intent is to knock somebody out, and sometimes they engage in that level of are perfectly. We also know that factually factually, Tom Deontay wilder was absent, actually. Correct. Because a look, if you if you put this man, the sleep at something ends up happening to him happening to him. God forbid, it's not like the wild is going to get arrested or anything like that. As long as he does nothing illegal in the ring. We know that, that's nothing. There's nothing going to happen. So he was actually telling the truth. I don't condone what he said, Michael Thompson. What I'm saying is what the hell is it? WBZ doing talking about how we need to conduct an investigation. What the hell are you talking about? There's nothing to investigate. He said, what he said, Mike Tyson wants talk about hitting the tip of somebody's nose. So he can push it up into their brain. Mike Tyson said this kind of stuff. So I mean why are we in an uproar about this? Why can't we just say it's wrong and leave it at that because it's a big difference from saying, yeah, I wanna put somebody's Boehner to their top of their head or I want to knock some guy out as opposed to I want to kill someone in the ring. I hope I have a body in the ring, I how do you not see the difference? I to me when you talk about hit somebody's nose into their brain. I'm thinking death with that to, to be quite honest with you. I really, really am, but I understand your point. I mean, when you put it the way that you put it I have to concede Michael Thompson, that you're absolutely right. To be appalled by it as I said the WBZ, and everybody else should sit there and say, excuse me, what the hell are you doing? We have to rebuke, such words that come out, but I really, but I really don't believe that the wild omit that I mean, I think he wants to knock the guy out and embarrassing, and that's about it. I mean don't you think that this was a method for him to sell the fight? Don't you think that's what this was about? This wouldn't notice cost the line, you could say, yeah, I wanna destroy Dominic Brazil, I want to knock him out. I want to make it so that he won't wanna ever fight me again. I understand that. But to say, yeah, I hope I kill this guy. I mean I, I don't see how America's not and I've I was WBZ. I was the president WBZ. I would find I wouldn't suspend him, but I would definitely heavily fined for making such a stupid. Statement. I'm not like I say I'm a fan of the wind up. But in this instance you cross the line when you say you wanna kill your opponent and you hope you do they were moving civility. No, I'm not losing my civility. I just think that I was of the mindset listen, I don't believe he really meant it. I think that he's trying to engage in our perfectly to sell the fight. I think he means Stephen, I think he means it because he said in before Dominic zeal. I think he said he hopes to have a body in the ring. I think he said, I'd like six eight months ago before this fighting them. I just say, I think, I think in an effort to sell fight him being a knockout artist. I think those are the kind of things that he thinks will ultimately lead to more sales for the fight. I don't believe that the wilder legitimately wants to kill a man in the ring, I think it was high perfectly. I think when it comes to the support of boxing or pugilist exports. You do have people listen, I was at the mega medoff's fight against Conor McGregor. And I believe if the referee wasn't there Moton, new mega medoff would still be choking Conor McGregor. I think he truly wanted to kill that. Man. He didn't say it, but he was far more serious than I find the. Okay. Wilder, the B I tell you that we know we saw the intestine that number number. But I can't even say his name Conor McGregor. Of course, we saw the intensity and the hatred between. But we see hatred between fighters before during the course of history of the US, and, of course boxing. And I'm a boxing historian, I know more about boxing and max Kellerman, I always tell them do by the way, and I have I have never heard from a little boy, in the Bahamas champion say, I hope I killed my I've never heard that got. You got you Mike, Michael Thompson. I'm gonna defer to you, my brother. Michael Thompson, right here with Steven ESPN radio ESPN news. Well, who do you have winning this fight with all of that being said, well, the only chance Brazil has, he's gotta stay on the outside of outbox awhile, awhile, definitely? It says name or Representative and he gets wild. Yes, amateurish punches, come in wild, and crazy and out of control. Brazil can come straight down the middle with this job and his strike. Right. He could catch Dominic. I mean the because the aren't there has been caught before he almost lost. Luis ortiz. He was our basically. So the chan- be caught because it's not technically sound, he punches heart, but those punches come from wide angle. So you go straight down the middle. You can catch him the only worthy opponent. I've seen Brazil go against was Anthony Joshua and he lost that fight. So I've got concerns about whether or not, he's got the skill set to be a Deontay wilder, are you concerned about that? No. I think he's a good boxer. He's a little. He doesn't punch hard as Anthony Joshua. And you know you learn from your defeat. And he said he learned he what he did wrong in Joshua. Good go. Seven heart rounds with Joshua fly believes the best heavyweight of all the three main major guys. And by the way, boxing, the other day, max Delamore says the heavyweight division is alive and exciting. No, it's not. It's knuckleheads. The wanna fight each other imagining the C you too young to remember Stephen Smith put in the seventies when I was your age in a fifty fifty years old back there. I remember guys like Ali Frazier Forman. Kenny Norden all fighting each other is excuse. Excuse me, excuse me. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on Michael Thompson. I'm going to have to check you. Now, I kinda know my boxing, now I don't sit up at the bloviate about it, but it's used me. I remember the days. Iran lyle. I remember the days of Earnie shavers. I remember the days of alley and Frazier, and all of these boys. I remember Sonny. Listen. I mean, I was two years old when he had that second fight against alley for, I remember all of these, I grew up loving, Larry Holmes. I remember Larry Holmes against Earl, we've, I remember Larry Holmes. Right. It's against Jerry, Cooney and all of these boys. I remember Allie and Spinks in all of this other stuff. I know my boxer now but I guess what I'm saying to you is this. And if wilder wins this fight, who do you think he should fight next should it be Tyson fury, should it be Anthony, Joshua? And if he fought Anthony Joshua who would you pick or go, Josh? Well, I think Josh was the best heavyweight, and he should by Josh, when that's you know why you know what else I'm hoping to, I hope he'll win because these knuckleheads keep avoiding each other not fighting the fire is hot. What are you gonna do? Wait five years. He had to wait for Manny and Floyd to finally getting the rate thirty three he's gonna fight Joshua when he's thirty eight I don't get these guys in the wing. So I kinda hope either Joshua him loses just disrupt disrupting upset the whole apple cart because he's got the delaying getting a ring faced each other. And one of these guys are gonna get upset along the way and cost themselves about fifty to seventy million dollars because they keep delaying spike what's wrong with you. You got all that you got the power the platform Stephen they call these brothers out and make a blah. I can't call the brothers out Michael Thompson, because it's not their fault is to promote his fault. They won't make the final. Give me that. It's a fight when you want a fighter you the boss, Utah promoter. You, you stop me from making fifty million dollars. Are you crazy get? Listen, listen, listen, so many of these fighters are not the they don't control their own destiny. Which is something that fluent money may what the complained about. Religiously listen, arrow spends junior wanted Manny pack. Yeah. But he's getting ready to fight Keith, Thurman. Okay. Why? That's the promoters that make that fight. We all know that we wanna see junior versus Terence Crawford, but Al Hayman and Bob Arum, can't get on the same page, you can't put that on the as Michael toe. You know, they don't have tation. Reputation. But on the Nope, I put it on a fighter. I was L spans. I'm telling out here and you want me to fight Sean fodder for two million dollars when I could go fight terrorists coffee for twenty million. I do not. I don't wanna fight for you. Make this fight with batons profit. I don't wanna fight for two when I can make twenty but that's why were you, Stephen, I thought you were business businessman. I am a businessman, but I'm telling you that it's not about that. It's about their lack of control because they may not necessarily have the business acumen of a Stephen a Smith or Michael Thompson. They might count the dollars, but in the same breath that thinking about how to promote us have control. They're getting about a third of their money their purse, and what have you. And there's a level of control that they just they just don't have they don't have representations. You've got guys like Roy Jones junior and others who've gone on Capitol Hill complaining about the lack of supervision over the sport. And how they at the mercy of promoters for crying out loud and still have to all of these years. Nobody has done anything about it Michael Thompson. What are they supposed to do? Well, well, how in the world do we ever get how many hers or Sugar Ray Leonard? Fight each other van different promoters. How did that ever work? Tommy hurts and come home to get it because the promoters are willing to work together because the promoters, are willing to work together to make it because if you're a man, your fighter you tell your promoter, I don't wanna fight that guy. I'll give up my belt. I don't care. What does this mean to me for making two million bucks? If I when I can make sixty million over the next two five if I give him my belt and go fight this guy. What is wrong with you Stephen? Hey, why don't you see it? I do see it your way in terms of what from an altruistic perspective in terms of what we want to happen. I'm just saying that every time you turned around to these fighters, they're at the mercy of their promoters. That's all here, which is. Yes, you think if I don't know, Ali Frazier Forman. Those guys were fighting a day under different promoters. They wouldn't face each other. Is that what you're saying? Well, if you talked to at you another stories about alley and his dealings with Don King. You've heard the same from Larry Holmes and others. And you heard on many occasions, how they found themselves and unfair and unwanted predicament because they were at the mercy of the promoters. So even back then the promoters has some degree of control. Even when you saw those fights, you didn't always see them when you wanted to see them, Michael Thompson, that can't be escaped. No, no, no. I remember Larry Holmes. Remember, Larry Holmes, Gerry Cooney? Yes. Remember, took the site that we had to see and they made it happen, while the Joshua is the hottest fight that could be made in boxing, for these guys will be delaying it for another two three years. Who knows if it'll happen. That's fine for us. Boxing fans. I agree with that. Michael Thompson, right here with Steven ESPN radio ESPN news while I have you on the phone. Let's face reality as much as you know, about boxing. Your expertise is really, really in basketball. You're a champion for the Los Angeles Lakers in basketball, and obviously, your son is a three time champion for the Golden State Warriors. What did you think about what you saw from last night game watching it? What should we feel most from Golden State's victory last night over the Portland trailblazers in game two of the Western Conference finals, very gutsy win by the warriors to pull that out after formed out, seventeen to a blazer team was desperate and hungry for a win. Now they gotta go. So I was very pleased to see them come back and fight back and show the ship heart that they have. But they when they go to Portland for these next two. How do they know they won't have Kevin Durant? They gotta go up there and show of metal is all about again. Like they did engage six down in Houston. And they got to come out and Saturday, send a message to the to the blazers keep the game close because we know if that game is in single digits, either way and close in the fourth quarter, I think that Sampson medal will come out again, because the warriors had that experience porno will feel the pressure known it they fall down Owen three the series basically over. So the key for the warriors is clay and staff have to come out get sixty to seventy points combined again to keep up with Damien and C J and the Mona center because they're two boys are tough, and that billing, so the warriors and of bench gotta keep playing great. That's been the secret of the last four games for the warriors is their bench play. Those guys have come through for I'm interested in knowing from fathers perspective, obviously, incredibly proud of your son, and you should be because I think your son is one of the top five shoot as I've ever seen a basketball. I think he's that great of a shoot, and he doesn't get the praise. Neil? Early as much as he deserves. I wanna know how you personally because sometimes parents are, you know, they judged their children harder than the average. Joe out there as a former player in NBA, former champion in the NBA who's now watched just son went three championships. And you see the greatness that he's displayed periodically throughout his career. What do you how do you feel about your son Klay Thompson as a player? I can't say nothing about clay. I can't say nothing to him. I can't criticize his career has locked my career ten times. It'd be like me going against you saying both in the hundred he could run back with them beat me twice before I finished mine. Clay has been a multiple time. All star two time gold medal winner in the world and the Olympic Games three time champion five time all star of like you said, one of the greatest shooters, ever, and he can he's still in his prime. So what can I possibly say Klay Thompson that he hasn't been through and it's done? So he's got the break break coaching. I just tell him to stay hungry. That's only the only advice I gave him because his career has passed mind, ten times over one of the reason why Macusi you're being diplomatic. Here's because you can say whatever the hell, you want 'cause you're his daddy, so daddy, always has power over all, you know with with the children for crying out loud. And even when there's nothing to say dad's usually find something to say, how come you don't? Because he's accomplished so much. And he's going to tell you man, very introspective on the court and off the court and the only advice I give him just respect the game and stay hungry and stay humble. If he if he keeps if he falls out advice, you'll be ready to be successful drawing the rest of his throughout into post career. So I wanna man stay humble they hungry and just keep respecting. And what what God is blessed you with them do not ever. Take it for granted, because it ain't gonna last forever. What advice do you give him about impending free agency because we've talked about Kevin Durant? We talked about a while Kyrie Irving, etc. Etc. Your son is about to be a free agent as well even though everybody in their mother believes he's staying in Golden State, and I'm not asking you to go there that y'all business. But what I am asking you is, what advice do you give him about the impending free agency? Is there any advice any father or mother would get to their child in any place, employment? If you are happy with where you are act, if you are comfortable, and this is this, what you want to be. And just stay right where you are no reason to go looking for anything else. If you are happy and content of where your whole already are act, which he definitely is he loves the bay area loves plan for the warriors loves their fans. You've been up there. So, you know how great it is up there. It's the second greatest franchise that he could ever play for. So I tell him to stay right way, is if he's happy. My last question, are you involved, the Los Angeles Lakers? Your radio host in LA. You, you obviously call games with John Ireland. You see the Lakers. You know the Lakers intimately better than most people on the planet or calling their games on a daily basis. Magic Johnson abruptly stepped away. We don't know whether it's Jeanie Buss. Linda is Kurt Rambis rob Pelinka who's running, what whatever the case may be. Magic Johnson is making an exclusive appearance on first take on ESPN this Monday with yours truly along with max Kellerman and Molly Kerem. Tell me what your thoughts have been about what you've seen from the Los Angeles Lakers over the last couple of months, very disappointed to see magic belief. So abruptly, of course. So it was great to have him. Be a part of the everyday operations for the Lakers. But in the meantime, now, we have to move on, I think the Lakers are in a good place. We've got a lot of money to spend on a particular Rachel whoever they may be out the burned James, and if they want to continue to do it, organically, they've tracked drafted. Well. Over the last several years, they've got a number four pick coming up, so they just wanna be patient here in Laker land. The Lakers are going to gradually work their way back into the title picture. It might take a little longer than we hope for the young core players that they have LeBron James top four pick. I think things are going to be fine and lecture giving good health. I think the Lakers will be a playoff there. Knowing won't be a championship contender on the favorite to win the championship, but we will be a playoff, the next year serious content playoff team, if we could just keep everybody healthy the Bronco continue to keep the being LeBron. And if we signed a big time for the summer, which is very possible. Are you scared that you're going to end up empty-handed in free agency as lake oh, as, as the Lakers organization, of course, we've got thirty seven million dollars spent? I would love. I hope they can find someone to take that take their money. I would hate to see someone turned down wherever that might be, so yeah, I I'm because we know if we can add of a top level free agents to this call players. We have ankle LeBron James, the Lakers. We'll be back so it's imperative that we signed somebody, this summer that will get us back on the playoff track faster than if he had to wait another year. Michael Thompson, I appreciate you. And by the way, I'll modify opposition to some degree. I'm not condoning trying to kill somebody in the ring. I just I just think it was high Purba -ly at he didn't mean it. And it's boxing. And that's what comes with it. That's all I was trying. But see the thing. See the thing about the he always says he means what he says that he only says that. Yeah. But do you really believe it? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. 'cause the proven before, like he goes on destroys weekly. He backs it up. And from the say, hey, I mean, this, I'm not kidding around this. Ain't this ain't jokin game. You gotta take him seriously. Stephen quick dismiss. I got I got on the stand. I appreciate your man. Thanks so much for joining the show, buddy. I really appreciate it. Thanks, a lot, anytime you need, more boxing and basketball advice, or education, buddy. Got you got it. You got one of the only Michael the right here with Steven eight. He has radio ESPN news. Eight say ESPN, that is always the number to call up. That's eight eight eight seven to nine three seven seven six. You listen live to the Stephen Smith show. ESPN radio ESPN news. Noah Thomas has got gotta get back to your calls and more in just a minute right here with Steven ESPN radio. By the way, I'm here to tell you about Zell a quick and easy way to send the receive money right from your banking app. Not sure what to get someone for their birthday graduation, or house warming, send the money with Zell a truly one size fits all present. So they can do whatever they want the money goes directly into their Bank account typically within minutes if they're already a rolled with cell, so they don't have to wait long to spend it on a perfect gift for themselves. 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And if you gotta say the most hyperbolic things or whatever the case may be to get money and generate interest in a fight. That's what you're gonna do. I bet you folks will be watching Saturday night to see if deonte wilder does what he says he's going to do. I'll tell you this much watching Dominic Brazil. I will say this he can box and he can take a punch because Anthony Joshua hit him with several of them before taking them out in the seventh round that was the only loss on Dominic Brazil's career. He says he's learned from their fight, we shall see. While the is, is the grim reaper of the heavyweight division. He hits you a one punch. He can put you to sleep, but don't call them. The Tommy Hearns of the division. Because even though Tommy, the hitman Hearns was a one punch, knockout artist Tommy hitman Hearns, could really, really box Deontay wilder. He's got something to prove in that department. He gets very, very wild once he gets you hurt. And when he got hurt by Ortiz. He wasn't that great at covering up. So to me, a fight with him and Anthony Joshua, which I think, is what everybody wants to see could end in one punch from wilder, Anthony Joshua who got dropped by, by Ladimir Klitschko, or Anthony Joshua could hurt wilder and then finish him off because he has the boxing skills and the power with it to pull it off. It could go either way, which is the fight that everybody wants to see. I'm not that interested in seeing Tyson fearing 'cause I don't think Tyson fury could hurt the Walter the wild but clearly heard him twice got him down. But he survived credit. To him. But Tyson fury is more of a boxer. He doesn't really have a punch Anthony. Joshua has both. And nobody has the punched that wild has. So I think wilder we'll see if he catches, Brazil, or Brasil catches him. Can he take that punch? We'll see about a way you never know what, you know, what never goes out of style. Surprising a friend, a loved him would buy one get one free multicolor rose bouquet for twenty nine ninety nine for one eight hundred flowers dot com to order, go to one eight hundred flowers dot com slash ESPN. Those go back to the phones Byron alive. Stephen, what's up? Champ. These things have been said before, man listen Mike Tyson said, if he doesn't die, it doesn't count. He was selling the fiber is nothing. Bad series nature. Man, we're blowing out of proportion. You have brothers that came up in say, seventy sixty seventies, we've transformed his, we've conformed to this era in this really create your supersensitive. He was selling the fight and these are things that said just to sell it by nothing more. Unless I will say this. I will say, I will say this Byron, you know, you have to rebuke, those comments as a society, 'cause it's a bit extreme, but it's not like he deserves to be punished. It's not like he does the WBZ says they're going to launch an investigation, which I thought was utterly idiot made no sense whatsoever. And this Dan, Tom, however, you are absolutely right. There is a heightened level of sensitivity. And as bad as that may seem isn't that also an indictment against society, and how there was some slippage. On all of our part due to the things that we allowed folks to get away with in the years preceding. The sensitive error. You can't even be a comedian. These days, everything is just congress sensitive. I when I. When I to hold a photo. Hold on Byron. That's still you still in answer my question. I'm saying it's is it a byproduct of us leading too much go in the past that everybody had to turn around and go to opposite extreme just to realize back into a middle of the row position. I'm asking. Cut kinda kinda sorta sees. All right. All right. I appreciate the call buyer. Thanks a lot. And then call back anytime buddy. Thanks a lot. Let's go to Robyn. You live with Stephen A on ESPN radio ESPN news. How are you? Hey, Steven AM good. Just a question as a millennial I kind of took offence to something you said the other day about the eye on millennials are already have the mindset of instant, gratification. I get what I want if I don't want one. It was given to me. I'm just not gonna take it or whatever. And you said that you think that he should if he is drafted by the pelicans, he should just say I don't want play there. And I think that that's opening a whole can of worms for well, even the number to even the number two three four five. Steve, hold on Robert, Robert. Robert g you hear me. Can you hear me Robin? Yeah. I can hear you. Let me ask you this question. Let me answer this question when Eli manning did it with the giants. Nobody said anything when Danny ferry did it in one thousand nine hundred eighty nine with the clippers, nobody said anything when KiKi Vandeweghe did it with the Dallas Mavericks in nineteen eighty nobody said anything. Now, literally, I don't mean literally. No one said anything, of course, there were people in those specific locales that were fended by that player's position. But the point is there has been precedent here, when Kobe Bryant was drafted by the Charlotte Hornets. Remember he wasn't drafted by the Lakers. He was drafted by the Hornets and a, an Jerry West pulled off a heist to get him to the Los Angeles Lakers because he didn't want to be in Charlotte. He wanted to play for the Los Angeles Lakers. So these are the comedies. They happened before. Hold on. Hold on Robert. I am not saying that John Williamson, she'd get drafted by the pelicans and refused to show up and go play for them. I'm not saying he should go back to school at Duke. I'm not saying. I should go overseas and play rather than play for the pelicans. What I'm saying is before they draft you if you know that you don't want to play for them. What's wrong will whisper in the air to let them know you don't wanna play for them, just in case they might sit up the enfold, particularly after what happened when Anthony Davis is say, okay, we'll trade his rights to somebody else and get equitable compensation because we don't want another play here. That's unhappy. I'm saying if you have an opportunity to pull it off without ruffling feathers along the way in a public forum. What's wrong with taking your shot at doing that to be where you want to go? If you have a shot at it. What's wrong with the Steven is, is that it just millennials don't think like other people Jeremy and like, I'm a millennial myself and it, you just say, oh, you can just sit out and you can do what you want. It's a lottery and he should just be happy to be playing in the NBA, and who's afraid. Robin, robin. I think you're very unfair. I think you're being very unfair. Again, if he refused to show, what once they drafted him. I get that I'm side and what you want percent. But if I know that this particular corporation, franchise, whatever is going to pick me, and I don't want to be there. If I have an opportunity in my mind that go somewhere else. I don't see the harm in me, informing them that I don't wanna play with you. I will if you draft me, I'm not gonna shook my responsibility to you. But before you inherit me and forth, that responsibility upon me. I don't feel there's anything wrong with letting you know, if I don't want to be there. I think that's right. No. Because who's to say the two three four five c can't just come out and say the same thing because it's been proven before. I want to do not gone, what one. What if they do the whole the whole idea of sport? What's no, no, Robin from anywhere. Drama would say I wanna play where I just gave Robin. I gave you four examples that it's been done throughout history. I didn't hear you say anything about those people. The NBA has been just fine. Since those people did those things, you have other people who have forced their way out. The NBA has been just fine. The Denver Nuggets did just find after Carmelo left the Cleveland Cavaliers struggled, but we love the NBA LeBron in Miami. Kevin durant. I didn't like him leaving. Okay. See, but the NBA has been just fine. The fact of the matter is people have a right to express what they feel now if they shirk their responsibility once before them, that is different but to express what you want prior to that. I see. Absolutely. No problem with it. I gotta run Robin. I appreciate the call. Thank you so much. But we just respectfully disagreed in at eight say ESPN eight seven to nine three seven seven six back, which you'll call us to close out the show in a minute. It's Stephen a Smith show. ESPN. 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I don't have time for that because LeBron James would never have considered going to New Orleans. It's a hypothetical that makes no sense because it would have never happened. He ain't trying to go to New Orleans period have a nice day. Let's go to Miguel you live, Stephen. Miguel. Go ahead. You live Stephen A. I'm all right. You live on the air. Go ahead, buddy. Go ahead, real quick. Assuming it's going to be Golden State in the bucks in the finals. Do you think Golden State, would, you know, say, say Kevin Durant is not hundred percents as may fifty percent. Come that time you think Golden State would risk playing him or they would just go for it and jazz. They would again trying to win a championship meant if Kevin Durant, they're going to be cautious for this series. But in the NBA finals, they know they ain't gonna beat Milwaukee without him. So the bottom line is Kevin Durant is says he's healthy enough to play you damn right? They don't take a chance and play them. There's no question. Appreciate the call. Ep alive. Stephen a real quick. Go. Hey two, good comments that maybe woman earlier she commented on about the unfairness of it all. Well, you spoke Gascoyne. I think it was unfair to compare someone. We've been a city in free agency versus being drafted, but I do agree with your overall point. However, it also took place like an NFL. I believe ally. Manning. In golfing, and the NFL remain. Okay afterwards, I agree with you. I just wanted to say, I think it was a little bit of compared someone leaving their free agency, even though they're megastar versus being drafted. No, I was just telling her into our just addressing hub point KiKi. Vandeweghe, Danny ferry Kobe Bryant that wasn't free agency. Carmelo was and Carmelo wasn't free agent. He was traded. He forced his way out of Denver. That's how it happened. Appreciate the call. Mike, Steven A. You got thirty seconds. Go. Yes. Or just wanted to ask you a question. I'm with you. Okay. D- goes to New York, but I was just wondering who do you think would be the best to go with him? Well in a perfect world, I appreciate the call in a perfect world. Our tell you that could wide lent. It would be the best person to go to New York where K D Kawhi Leonard or Klay Thompson. But from what we're hearing wa willing to stand Toronto or go to the clippers, even though the Lakers, have an outside shot. And in the case of Klay Thompson, he ain't thinking about leaving Golden State, and go to state is not going to think about letting him go as of twelve o one night. A free agency. There's minute they allow to they're going to be Klay Thompson door ready to offer him all the money in the world to keep him there as well. So neither one of them going, but I would tell you, those two are the best two options to go with K D to New York as opposed to kyri in terms of talent. But neither one of them goes kyri wants to be in New York. 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The Sedano Show (HR 1): The Dodgers win the World Series... in 1988
"Saddam with you here on. Espn presented by Progressive Insurance. All our guests appear via the Shell Pennzoil performance line. This segment brought to us by our friends at straight talk wireless full-court cellphone coverage you need. Get The unlimited plan with twenty five gigs of high speed data in two G. For forty five bucks a month so you have to cause a big carriers. Everything for savings may vary see terms and conditions at Straighttalk DOT com. We've got Ethan. Strauss author extraordinaire covers. The warriors for the athletic will join us. He's got a new book out called the victory machine that talks about a number of things including how the MAC salary has changed the game in the NBA. Even though supposed to help the owners it didn't it helped empower the players and it specifically talks about durant and curry's relationship so we'll get into that with him. Michael Thomson will stop by. Excuse me either. Stretch at eleven Michael Thompson before him at ten thirty. I have it backwards. And then we've got our senior shot at eleven fifteen tim. Kirch eleven thirty but for the whole show. We've got we saved the best for last Mama. Momo what Georgie how are you? I'm good how are you? I'm good this is so interesting because I can't get in and tell exactly we're about on the air everybody else's using all the different the comrex things right right. I was like I have to wait until exactly nine fifty five to jump in. But I'm excited to be here. You guys are just been holding down by yourself talking to yourself and your your office or something. Is that what you do? Yeah I've got. It's only two hours. It's nice comfy. I've got greg and his multiple alter ego egos We have we have a lake. Laker boy We have dodger boy. We have raider boy and bruin boy his four different alter egos one thing that I need to know from Greg though. Okay Greg. He's the lights on in your bedroom. Oh I have one light on. The main light is not on the smaller. Light is on those. You know that Greg is still sitting in bed right now. Oh yeah of course he is. I've seen him yes. He sits in bed in a dark room with his laptop as the only source of light. In the bedroom as this is your show. Yeah no it's insane. He's an insane person to go. I can't go on the you. Tell me he's got alter egos. That's even weirder. It's like is he just in the dark room all day talking to himself in the alter egos. My Alter Egos are Georgia's way of making sure that if I say anything he just brush it off and just say dodger boy talking. Okay got it. I mean there there is some of that but there's also it just it allows us to talk to the different alter egos because you know he's corporate greg now and so the alter egos allows him to still be the fan without being the corporate person. It's an escape. It's an out for him in essence. And then we've got Laura who is the sanity of the program? Have you worked with Laura before I have? I like her very much. Yeah Yeah I think she should get a promotion. That's good morning. Laura how are you? I'm doing fine? Thank you guys. Think I appreciate that? You're speaking for the ladies here. I've got a crew. I've got a clue. Well I've been. I've been binge watching the last dance. George one set me. They sent me the first eight episodes I'm working on a big story for Friday kind of about how this whole documentary came to be. It's the for those you don't know. Espn is running the last dance. Which is the ninety seven ninety eight bowls team? The last year of Michael. Scottie and Steve Kerr Phil Jackson in Chicago. They had over five hundred hours of footage from NBA entertainment. That's basically just sat in a volt for twenty three years and everyone has the agreement was Michael had control of this so nobody could make anything with that footage until Michael Jordan was ready and so for twenty three years. It's been this sort of like you know. Holy Grail of footage that every people in the industry knew about. But you really couldn't get to because Michael had to say and Michael was never ready to make a documentary or never. Okay never didn't think enough time passed and so finally about four years ago this guy in Tolan who's the executive producer of this He's a guy he used to Arles. He's done a few of the big thirty for thirty s that we've had on. Espn he did the Inglewood Five. He spent a few big ones for us. The Iverson Doc for showdown he convinced Michael and Michael Business Associates. That now is the right time to do it. And so I've watched eight episodes. George it is so good. It's so good. I'm so excited for everyone to watch it. Yeah I think it's GonNa be awesome because I think the other part of it is. This is the thing about it. You and I are of age that we saw Michael Jordan in his prime. We saw Michael Jordan even when when we were younger like struggle to get to the apex. So we're old enough to remember where he wasn't winning championships yet and he considered a ball hog right like he was considered the guy who would never win because he wasn't a team player and then became the greatest player in the sport right. So I think there's a whole generation or two even perhaps that have never even watched him play show. I think that it's going to be really educational. I think for a lot of people it is and I think that was one of the ways that they got Michael to say. Yes I think in the pitch to him. The producer walked in and said hey everyday people walk into my office wearing shoes but they've never seen you play and boy that hits you right and I'll tell this I love seeing young Phil Jackson again by like Phil like the you know the mustache. No no goatee. Yeah skinny you know. Young young fell right. And then you see. Steve Curr what. He's a player. They talk about the fight with Michael. I mean there's an I don't want to give away too much because I want people to just watch it and enjoy it but one thing that was like jumping off the page at me was just like I just. I hear so many echoes of Kobe. Bryant in this like when you I knew. Kobe looked up to Michael. I knew that he watched all the videos of Michael on home video that he emulated him. I don't think I appreciate it as much as I do. Watching Michael for an extended period of time like they sound the same. They talk the same. They walk the they shoot the same. Celebrate the scene. It's unbelievable when you wind. It was just because my frame of reference with so much getting to know Kobe. Just how close he and Michael really were and how much Kobe really did emulate Michael. Yeah it is pretty incredible when you see it like it is right. And there's a lot of people who grew up Kobe fans who see Jordan play and we'll watch it back and go as you pointed out I get it. I get it now. You know. And and that's that's where we're going to be plus the more things change the more they say the same right. The reason why the Bulls broke up is because Jerry Krause who was the general manager. They're Kind of got into it with a lot of the main characters and the team. There was this famous quote. He said players don't win championships. Organizations view they revisit that quote which really caused a lot of dissension amongst Phil and Michael. And Sky all this K- whatever GM you know. What are you talking about Organizations Championship? We're we're the players right and there was. There was a dispute with Phil Jackson. Jerry Krause which is Kinda over him. Jerry's daughter got married invited to the wedding except for Phil and the other guy. He invited there was Tim. Floyd who would succeed fills. Everybody knew he was coming in. I mean you know it reminds me of you. Know it's so sad that that's how they're dynasty ended but it also reminds me of the warriors just ended for stupid reason to write shack. Hobie Lakers ended for stupid reasons to like when we look back on that. It's just that's what dynasties do just really hard to keep them together. Yeah yeah I would agree wholeheartedly. I do love homework assignment for you. Ready Ready to engage so on the poster of the last dance. You have Michael. Obviously you got Scottie. You've got Phil you've got Dennis Rodman and then all the way on the left. In the back Steve Kerr Okay and now I listen I love me. Some Steve Kerr you love you. Some Steve Kerr of but my guess is if you text him right now and ask him. Did you think you'd be on the poster of the last dance documentary? He'd have something really funny to say is my guess because I don't think there's any chance he thought he would make the poster but considering he's won all these titles and I think younger people now know Steve Burs the coach. It was smart to put him on the poster. Well that's a really good point. He kind of he wasn't part of the first three the second part of the second three so he kind of plays that John Paxson John. Paxson is like the shooter who went. Bike will finally learns how to make teammates better entrusted teammates. That's the big hill overcome. Right and Phil. Jackson helps them do that by getting him to believe in the triangle and believe in his teammates and and you know build them like you don't have to score everything yourself. It's very similar. Transformation to what Phil did was Koby many years later so John Paxson is the first guy. And then Steve. Kerr ends up being the second guy who we trust to make the big shy. Neither of them are Of the same kind of star. Power as Michael and Scottie and Rodman Phil. Right but I would say this. I sometimes what you do afterwards ends up. Be Making you see more important than you were as a player right and like very humble. He makes fun of himself. He was like you know he he laughs about it but because he went and won more championships with the Spurs and he goes and wins three coach with the warriors like he does have a pretty big name in the game. I mean I think Steve Kerr probably going to be in the hall of Fame Right. It's coach Joe's although titles. I think I think I think he's kind of the same argument. You Make Robert Ory Robert wouldn't be in the hall of fame but if he did it as a coach also he would direct if Robert would have gone on done something and one championship as a coach for sure. But Steve Her. You're going to see in this documentary. Yeah it's one of the biggest shots in that teams run in the Nineteen Ninety. Seven finals in game six. He hits the Monster Shot. Yeah Yeah and they have. They have one thing. I thought was pretty impressive about this is it? Michael is willing to go there. Like there's a couple of scenes in this episode. Five is where he talks about the Republicans Nike's to Harvey Gantt Stuff. You know the Senate race there. North Carolina Michael Goes there. Michael Talks about it. I've never heard him talk about it but he got he talks about it here. He talks about the gambling stuff. He talks about his father's death talking love it. I love it I love it all of it and I I was. I was refreshed to see. This wasn't just going to be. You know a sanitized version of history. This was Michael. Michael went there. Yeah well listening when you get the thirty for thirty people involved you either give us the dirt the for nothing all right. I'll confess I think of my and my college softball team. I think I might be like the Steve. Kerr look like I kinda like they hired at Stanford. They hired one of my former teammates to be the head coach like a couple of years ago. They win and they got quote they they called me and said Hey. Can you give us a quote for the press release and I was like you guys know? I wasn't that good right like I wanted like. I wasn't an all American like you should call Jessica Mendoza. She was like three time all American Olympia and stuff and and they were like. Oh No no you know we'd like to have you know and I'm like okay. I understand what that's about right like I work for. Espn now in the public eye. A little bit like I'm a little more. I'm certainly more relevant now than I was in college when I was like batting ninth and playing right field okay. It was like that girl but I think okay. Just take just say okay. Sure no problem. I'll do that. I'll tweet rolling rolling. Yeah if you if you can text Steve and just see what he thinks about the poster. Because I think it's I just think his response alerts during the break. You don't have the right now but I think it would be hilarious so let me ask you this question. I saw this on. I take today because we got about two minutes here before the break two or three minutes. How many more do you think they could have had jerry? Krause not broken them up. Oh Yeah let's take the next champion. Was who was. It was the spurs right. Yeah so so. So basically the the Jordan Bulls leave. It's ninety eight. Then the spurs have their nice. Oh run I think those bulls would beat the Spurs don't you? It would have been fascinating. Because they had Robinson Dunkin right show. How would the? How would the bulls have matched up with two guys like that? That would have been would have been the guards Michael. Who's for him? The Spurs contains Michael on the Spurs team. There's probably not anybody that can can Michael or Scotty for that matter. I mean trying to sell them. So Scott would be guarding. I think Scotty would guard Dunkin. And I think Robin's Rodman would guard Rodney Lagarde. Tim Tim Robinson right right. Yeah David Robinson regarded. Yeah yeah getting. And now. What Steve Curved on? What are you stayed in Chicago? Where they've gone to San Antonio like right even we'll purdue I don't want to do wasn't an all star. But he was a role player in their center rotation for the Bulls. Yeah I mean it's it and then you think of like how history changes so you know Michael Gets to. Michael Wins his first championship against Magic Johnson. And the Showtime Lakers Okay and shortly after the Spurs Dynasty Fades. That's when Kobe's Laker dynasty rises. So Would Mike. Would Koby have played Michael in finals? Like could we advise would feel have never left? Would fill have never left? Why STAYED IN CHICAGO? Never become a Laker may shacking Kobe. Maybe never played. Ville who who comes in after del Harris. There's so many questions here. Yeah there's so many sliding doors things here I mean it's it's it's just ri watching this and putting the history together. Michael Goes and plays baseball in Nineteen ninety-four so they win three titles in a row. My burn out when you win three in a row. It's just a long time and he actually says in this documentary. He told his biographer. At the time. This guy who's writing books about it. And he told them at nine hundred ninety two even after the second title that he had been talking about playing baseball he wanted to retire early and just walk away. He was really tired but he had. He felt like he needed to keep trying for the third because nobody had ever won. Nobody had won three in a row. His guys that he was being measured against. So that's magic and bird. They've never done the three peat so he wanted to come back and go for the three peat but he was tired he'd won it all those years where he's pushing then. He goes ninety two. They do the Olympics. That's the Dream Team. So they didn't really get a break. He comes back they win. They win in ninety three. And then he and then that's when his father's murdered and he had already been thinking about stepping away his father's killed he's devastated and he just said you know he'd been talking with his dad about playing baseball. His Dad had already said this is a good idea so he steps away goes to play baseball. Terri Toner is his manager in Birmingham. Right with the Birmingham Barons. They said the reason they started him in. Aa is because those facilities. There were large enough to accommodate the press contingency that was gonNA follow him. They couldn't anything below that they wouldn't have enough room. Yeah so Terry says he actually was pretty good and he said if he was stuck with he has no doubt he would have made the majors but ninety five comes along and it's a strike year and Michaels a big union guy so all the minor leaguers were being asked to cross the picket line and play. It'd be the replacement players during the strike year and Michael Says No. I'm not doing it. I'm not I'm not crossing the picket line. So instead he walks out of he walks out of white sox campy walks at bury him camp. And that's the end of baseball. He goes home and he sitting at home and he called and he gets a little itchy calls. Bj Armstrong said. What are you doing Bj? Says I'm I'm a practice once you come on by? That's crazy that's crazy. Tell I've been geeking out on this story about. We'll talk about it more. Thrash show here but coming up. Next Momo spoiler alert the dodgers won the world series own. That was so awesome night. Let's get into that in a second here but Sodano with you here on. Espn Ramona Shelburne. Mama Momo hanging out with us today throughout the whole show. Espn radio here on ESPN. Seven ten is presented by Progressive Insurance Quote Home Insurance man it just got easier with progressive homequote explorer quoting by all online at progressive DOT com. So Michael Thompson is GONNA join us at ten thirty and before we get into. The dodgers are real quick. Momo you Michael's family is involved in this Jordan documentary right. So there's one person to thank for this footage existing the five hundred hours of the ninety seven ninety eight bowls. It's Andy Tomson. That is the younger brother of Michael Thompson. And the uncle of Klay Thompson. Who was a photographer and cameraman producer for NBA entertainment at the time and he came up with this idea and pitched it to the head of NBA entertainment at the time. Who Was Adam? Silver and out of silver went to the Bulls and said we're going to need access to the locker room practices. Whatever and the deal they made. Was you know we just need to document this? This is history. It's probably the last year. This team could be Michael's last year and we gotta just get this on film. We just gotTa get it down and we'll figure out what to do with it later. And they talked Phil Jackson into it. They talked Jerry Reinsdorf into it and they talked Michael Jordan into it by saying a will. Never do anything with this. All parties agree and so for twenty three years all the five hundred hours of footage. That Andy Thompson Shot Michael Thomas. Little brother sat in a vault. No-one touched it and now finally it's making it to the screen. It'll be here on Sunday at six o'clock all right speaking of Of of cool footage. How awesome was it to watch the eighty eight world series eight world series yesterday? Now take me back to where you were at that time. Like forget about yesterday for a second to nine thousand nine hundred eighty eight nine thousand nine hundred eighty eight. I would've been nine years old. Okay I was a little nine year old Momo. I was a huge baseball fan. I was a huge huge dodger. Fan at Kirk Gibson was my favorite player on that team. Although I did really like Orel hershiser to everybody like bulldog right And he I was just watching at home with my parents Just watching and I watched every single game. I was like that girl. Okay and I I watched it. I you know we were just at home. I remember Vin. Scully's call like it was yesterday. I remember jumping around in my living room like we. My parents still live in the same house that I would have been outside. I remember we were in our living room watching it and I remember when he hit the home run. I was just jumping up and down. I just like I can. I can still put myself back there at nine years old. That's Awesome Yeah. It is yeah now watching it back with fascinating first of all Vince. Gully Joe Garagiola. I mentioned are just fantastic tandem. And here's the thing like it's wild to me because people now I mean we're talking about Jordan. How people don't know him now. People now who are of a certain generation had no clue that Jose Canseco was arguably the biggest star in sports now just baseball arguably the biggest star in sports. This is a man who dated Madonna okay at the time in the eighties. All right like he was as big as stars there was he was a forty forty guy like he was in that exclusive club and he hit a Grand Slam in this game and I would imagine at that time like I remember watching it as a eleven year. Old Kid and go to myself. Oh this is over like the as were overwhelming favorites and to watch the way. It unfolded was crazy but I think back now. Compared to what he is now in the way people view him now it is just as wile a difference a stark differences you could ever consider he was cool and it was like. I feel like it was like Miami vice or something like he was he just had this like swagger about like you know I don Johnson was so cool and dressed in like those silk shirts like absolutely canseco was like you know he had the silk shirts and was like the bash brothers and him McGuire with Bash brothers and like that was like they were like the tough bad guys like the same way that people came to see like the The Pistons were like that Dude's right like they couldn't beat them and I think that I think you look back in SACO. Now it's like he's a joke where eighties just like a steroid guy who went off the rails and set all this crazy. Although by the way everybody that can Saco out in his book has turned out to be right as crazy as it sounds Momo. He was the most credible person when it came to performance enhancing drugs in baseball right. He owned his own stuff and he outed everybody else. What more can you ask for? So that was one thing and then you know. Look the as were loaded that dodger team. I thought you brought up a great point in our text chat yesterday. How Mickey Hatcher had one home run all season but yet gave the dodgers to nothing lead in that game right. Mickey Hatcher was another good season period and he was just a fill in guy he had listened to these numbers. Eighty eight games on one hundred ninety one. That's fifty ax hits with one home run for the entire season. That's it that was all but Mickey Hatcher was like scrappy. Guy Like he was a fan favourite. I watched him. He was like one of my favorite players and I remember. I just remember him being like he. He still seems like he looked old. Then right like when you want to look old. I remember Vicki's at coach and he's still looked old now. He looks up about anyway but at the time you know watching that game last night because they replayed at espn last night which was like really fun to watch back. I forgot how bad Tim Belcher choked. I forgot I mean I was having A. He was basically you Darvish Darvish. He just totally screaming yellow. Sorta get him out of the game and he's walking the pitcher. He walked team Stewart. Yeah could you imagine? Oh could you. Could you imagine if somebody now Dave Roberts yeah social media go nuts? Yeah he would have killed him for that. That's not the way that baseball is played now. And I've talked to some people Tommy. Lasorda did that all the time. And you guys in way too long all the time. Yeah it's like the opposite of what managers do now He had tim leary warming up. Tim leary was like ready to go. And SORTA just was sticking with eligible. He'll find it and you'll find it and it's you know then there's other things too that just watching. We all know how Great Vince. Gully was but to hear Vin in his prime pointing out little things like I remember there was like Belgium struggling. And Ron Paranoia. Sti goes out to the mound and Ron Herron. Hausky was the longtime pitching coach before. Rick Honeycutt was pitched I think honey cuts on the team right okay eighty-eight but ramdas goes up to the mountain and Vin. Scully goes to Joe Garagiola. And he says he's had a problem opening up. That left front shoulder. Lets you know that they've been working with him on that. And then they show the replay of Belcher and he's like opening up that left front shoulder to your like wild man. That guy was on it one to just know that that's what they've been working on with him and then to without even knowing that that replay is GonNa show exactly what he points out. I mean it was like you know people get excited that Tony Romo calls out the plays Tony Romo was an NFL quarterback like Vin scully's a broadcaster so for him to point out something detailed like that and just be right about it. Yeah it was incredible and then the other thing that stood out right before the home run. That Gibson hit was the graphic that went up said Dennis Eckersley has not given up homerun since August. Twenty four and it was just like Whoa. That's crazy that they put that up to two or three pitches later boom. It's gone and it was just gave me chills to watch it as much as you know. I didn't have a rooting interest in that series as a kid but baseball was so big back. Then that you were everybody was watching the world series and like as as a little kid. I was living and breathing with every moment and to watch that. I still got chills just like if I was an eleven year. Old Kid watching. So I've heard Vin scully's call of gifts Homerun I greg. How many times have you heard hundreds thousands like that billions? I don't even know I still get excited every time you talk about a role of the dice like I said it's not just I know what's coming next season it's been so improbable both the impossible and then he shuts up and you just and you just let the moment sit there right and Kitson's running around and he's pumping his fist around second and like you can just see the whole. All the cars in the parking lot like that moment is just such an amazing sports moment and I think there's a few like in like not just in baseball but whatever your team is you probably have a few moments like that when they won or whatever but That that game is so good and then subsequently we learn even more about this. Is You know the reason why gifts in kind of knew that that that was coming the pitch was coming is. There's a scout named Mel diddy. Who had said that when Gibson when Gibson gets ahead and he's he's Oh to when it gets ahead of you he comes to the back door slider Eckersley gets he gets ahead. Oa-to gets you down. He tries to get you out with that back door side so that was in the scouting report from Bell. Did Yeh Gibson knew it. It was too. He knew to sit on the page and he just threw his hands out. I mean it doesn't even look like a good swing. No TERRIBLE SWING OFF. Just throwing his hands. It's crazy all right. Speaking of crazy Michael Thompson stops by. He's GonNa come gloat. We'll talk to him about a number of things. Momo's hanging out sodano seventeen. Espn here on seven ten. Espn Mama Momo hanging out today Ramona Shelburne with us for the whole show Michael Thompson. Going to join us here in a second. It's all presented by Progressive Insurance and our guests appear via the Shell Pennzoil performance line. It's time for straight talk. Brought to you by straight talk wireless everything for less only at Walmart. Micheal Hope you and yours are safe and healthy. Since the last time we spoke with bringing Janda gloat do you know that? Did you know that we're bringing you onto gloat? I Globe even gloat about what we talk about. Well we're talking about how Christian McCaffrey. Yesterday became the highest paid running back in. Nfl history. And I talked about how you and key would go at it about Christian McCaffrey when I was doing the mornings. And you become your victorious. He is not only the best running back in the league. But he's the highest paid of all time and you basically called it. You said he would be the guy. No I hate to say it and I'm not accusing key about talking. About a lot of other people who are evaluating McAfee. When he was at Stanford he suffered from reverse racism because we have not seen running back him do what he can do in the NFL. Since probably the seventies so a lot of people thought that what he was doing in college wouldn't translate the NFL because the speed can't you guys doing in the NFL abroad defenders doing the NFL to out didn't WanNa believe when they were seeing because some of them didn't think because of his pigmentation he would be successful in the NFL? We may as well just face facts guy. I mean you don't have to tell me and that's my guy that's a stanford kid right and I can't believe he didn't win a heisman like like he was so good in college. And you know you just couldn't I thought a I thought it was never gonNA get the respect. He deserves a for Stanford running backs. History Kinda like coming up short and heisman votes. But he was Kinda hurt I think in a way by the failure of other Stanford running back. Toby Gerhart was a big guy for us right and he didn't really do much in the NFL. So I think like McCaffrey comes along. He's awesome but he was put into that same category as Gerhard which is like. Okay Really Good College Guy. Maybe he's a system thing maybe Stanford quarterbacks like maybe it's just you know whatever they run the ball a lot or the way they use him. I I just don't think he. He got the respecting in college for one. As you say my God I think it was a little reverse racism But I don't think it was. It was just you know the recent history hadn't gone as well for Stanford running backs in the NFL. You can look at it that way talking about recent history but other running back come out of programs really having big yet position but they get drafted high because they see skill they are when they performed on Saturdays and they didn't hold of the scam path against the other guys. No fishing McAfee was just because they didn't think what are you doing can translate to the NFL. One main reason I mean should We're GONNA WE'RE GONNA. We're GONNA look back on that heisman. Vote George he lost a derrick. Henry who is Alabama that year? Mccaffrey finished second and discharge Watson finished third. Pretty good heisman year. Home Builder Mayfield is fourth that year. Let's let's give Michael on to call back or let's call Michael Back so we can get him on a better connection because it might just that he just on a bad connection because he kind of keeps getting garbled and coming in and out but yeah look I mean McCaffrey. You could have made the case for him but yeah that listen there. Those years there were some pretty good guys won the heisman. So look it's it's relatively competitive and I just think he's being utilized in a way we haven't seen really since Marshall faulk where he's catching the ball like hired times a season or something like that. So yeah like and by the way you mentioned Lamar Jackson when I get Michael Back. I'm GonNa let him gloat about that too. Because he called the Lamar Jackson to. I'll say this Michael may not be a great MBA. But he sure as hell give me an NFL GM at this point. Yeah it's pretty good you know. I think I think he has main point. Always just if you're doing it at the college level and it's like no joke the way you're doing it's not just a gimmicky system quarterback right like that should translate to the NFL. Should I mean now I just The problem is. There's been so many great college quarterbacks like Johnny Menzel with a Great College quarterback and people drop them wanting to just doesn't translate but that was a kind of a geeky offense he was running at Texas Tech. There's no doubt Yeah I so Michael. Not only we were talking about Mccaffrey winning the heisman. But Momoh pointed out those two years Derrick Henry one for Alabama and then your mother boy Lamar Jackson Your Guy. This is another guy that you tab from day one so go gloat about him to look for Lamar and you know Scott reporting. He couldn't throw and all of the Louisville game and I it put Passes Right on the money on receivers at full stride and I kept saying. What do you mean he can't stop yards must be connected somewhat? Frustrated me mostly stay on the martyr out about him is is is is throwing abilities when I saw in the past the pro every kind of tone of the NFL makes frustrated me about him. Yeah I mean well I mean you even have people saying he should converted positions right. He's supposed to pay. They should make them receiver making my running back. Yeah that happened on our show. It was me and Keyshawn does e. what's his name. Bill Polian K. Mart and show instead it right there and we were like so it was pretty crazy. Michael let me ask you this more and I were talking about the last dance and you didn't tell any of us. At least I didn't know that younger brother was involved in this last dance. Michael Jordan documentary looking at the right the all think it was his filming and was a major producer spill by anyone and told me some stories out. I can't reveal them here about behind the scenes. Or we're going to the Bulls back then I mean. Look we'll talk about it off the air with some juicy stuff and even though they got some juicy stuff on campus is the greatest sports documentary in history. Only because my brother did it because of what he was describing on this thing. Twenty two years. I think. Uh It's been in the cast and to be released. This is going to be amazing to watch. Yeah I talked to you about it by Michael. Did He tell you know? I didn't tell me to call him. What are you say? Well Yeah I know you said you're probing questions. I know we talked for probably thirty forty minutes. I'm doing a story for For this week just to set up the documentary and I I was just wondering how he got in with Michael Jordan right because he but he shot a few of his home home video things and he told me a story. I don't know if he's ever told you this. Okay but apparently Andy was working with. Ahmad. Rashad your and Andy Thompson. Your brother was with a moderate Saad on MBA entertainment. Ahmad was really close with Michael and he decided and they went out. They were going out to dinner so he invited Andy along so we met Michael and abide says. Andy is Michael. Thompsons younger brother and Michael set. Michael Jordan says to your brother. I love Michael Thompson. I think he's so. I think it's so cool that he changed the spelling of his first name. I tried to do that too. Okay where when he was growing but when he was coming up but his mom got mad and he wouldn't she wouldn't allow it and that's why he liked. He liked your brother and kind of let him into that circle of trust. Do you ever tell you that story? No never heard of that. He's he's the second grade. Michael never played the game. I mean look at that. The Michael Jordan wanted to be like you Michael Thompson. Instead of Mike you should have been be like you Mike Us Right and you know think about Michael Jordan is day Ramona Android. That you guys know you guys around these. Nba Stars all the time these legends and when they go out they usually have. I'll never forget this dinner with me and my brother Michael Jordan Entrench Taco. The former Nick. We all before. The dinner sat in a restaurant no bodyguards. No nothing I'm sitting there with Michael Jordan. Then the the most famous probably the greatest athlete in the world. Nobody bothered US snapping a good conversation in the middle of a restaurant. He needed me. Bodyguards entourage around and keeping people away. I was so cool. Yeah so so. Your brother is basically the creator the guy behind this and the voice that we hear a lot of the interviews that were shot during that year but so he takes. He takes all these hours and hours of video and he'd said that the end of the year when Michael Hits the shot at the end the scores forty five in you know in the last game. They win the championship. The last dance. He said I knew we had just shot the greatest Ford's documentary ever and then it basically sat in evolve for twenty years right now With Bra brought around and what documenting wealthy released for several years until Lebron retire so from now going to get one of these about Lebron and that's going to be so cool and the thing about my brother is I remember. I used to smoke and look at me. Scott Matthys right but I still hanging around Jordan Ma-margaret so he became a Michael last one. Before we let you go phones crapping out on your but I wanted to ask you this because you played against them in a finals at the beginning and at the end you know Michael and his thirties. They broke up obviously. This was the last dance at your brother documented How many more do you think they have one? Could they have beaten that spurs team in ninety nine balls up a year so they should just one what Kathy Campbell Jordan would have seven of six? I said they would have won. I'M PRETTY DAMN. They would have won seven right one more. I caught the end of that. Michael Thank you so much for taking the time. Get a better connection next time. Come on you got. He's here on his yacht. I got that he's out here on his yacht later they much. Yeah does your son. Does he talk at a lot yet or is he doing I have? I have to dig code my son's language all the time. So we say say please. Okay okay I can go that coming up next. You and I can compare notes and also Clayton Kershaw drew a line in the sand Momo lawn on this Arizona thing. We talked about it a little bit yesterday. I want to get your thoughts on that. We'll get to that in a few seconds stick around. We're back in two and a half minutes. Sodano seven ten PM here on. Espn MOMO hanging out with us. Today we're happy to have her as always brought to you by my computer career training for a better life. And if you miss any one of our interviews today eaten. Strauss's coming up at eleven. Tim Kirkman at eleven thirty and in between that. We will have our senior shutout Evan Leonard from UCLA. Men's basketball another Irvine. Another ant eater and again check out our entire interview on demand section for the show podcast brought to you by the capital one quicksilver card earning unlimited one and a half percent cashback on every purchase everywhere. What's in your wallet and we've been talking about the last dance When it comes to insurance State farms the real deal with over. Nineteen thousand local agents. Award-winning MOBILE APP. You can get the help that you need when you need it. Find an agent. Get a quote at State Farm Dot Com and the last dance will every Sunday from six to eight. Alan Sleep I will have a video recap on the Espn Los Angeles twitter account from eight to eight thirty so make sure you tune into that on ESPN. Los Angeles is twitter account. So Momo Real quick before we get into Clayton Kershaw. Ethan's trousers coming up in a couple minutes. You and I have young toddlers basically the same age. We're at eighteen months and change your at your eighteen months. I think you're I think we're all literally a week ahead of me so I'm like yeah. Oh that's what it was. It was a week right. It was a weekend show show. Yeah so we can compare notes a lot of screaming and I don't know about you but really nasty poop Mizoguchi. Bet I mean. I don't know I guess I'm just over it over that like I did that this morning. I because I was doing your show at ten so I had the morning shift early. You know went from whenever he wakes up so as soon as he wakes up because he sleeps ten eleven hours and then he wakes up. I mean you. You know that diapers loaded. Yeah right yeah so you know what you're getting in the morning right. It's that things that things full and just over it. Okay what it is like but also I kid so maybe maybe like second kid. You're like come on. Well you can also compare happy for him. I'm like okay. Good get that out of the way. It's actually when the diapers not loaded in the morning that you're like oh we're going to. We're GONNA be a little fussy until the advantage of having an older one is that you can at least tell her. Hey keep a quick eye on him for a second you even at five. It allows you a minute or two for the most part where you can have someone watch while you're grabbing something. You know what I mean. So it's nice to have that that little help on our side and also we're we're at a very cute stage right now where he likes. He's really into reading books with me. And I'm saying that because I do the first five California okay. He loves reading so I said he comes in. He sits like I'll sit cross legged. He'll come sit on my leg and I'll read the book to like probably seven times in a row so gave her books. These days are I am a mouse and I'm a kitten and we read those over and over and over really doesn't love. The trucks likes the truck book trucks so he opens up the truck book and as soon as he turned the page and he gets to the one with like the tractor. He's like mean we're we're at a stage before he gets a Clayton kershaw where he is now a climber and on the arm he'll get onto the arm of the couch and then he'll dive onto the couch and I'm like dude. There's going to be a broken arm in your future here. You're gonna fly off this couch. At some point. Daniel has been climbing on the foot. Rest by the chairman is a nursery. Probably I mean I think since he before he was a year old he was climbing on the thing early and now he knows that a climate and the jump from the foot rest onto the chair and he gets almost the top of the chair and he's like trying to like launch himself off of it and I'm like Oh my God. You're you're crazy. I carry wrestling. It's very wrestling off the top rope but yeah good. Lord I get to Clayton Kershaw. Quick so kershaw. I know that right thompsons got a great story. Clayton Kershaw look this could be. This could be the last great season for him. Potentially right and we're dealing with a pandemic which is just wild but Clayton Kershaw. Yesterday told or Monday now told sports net. La He's not doing this Arizona thing like he's not interested in being away for four and a half months and I took the position Momo that I get it I am not bemoaning him for feeling that way but if the sport decides to go and they get a green light and they WANNA do it without Clayton Kershaw then so be it like. That's just the reality and we all are adults and we all have to make decisions. But I think the sport will will move on with or without him or their stars. If they're not all willing to do it yeah. I think what's really hard because you know you know the the the players are going to have to be in this bubble which is not going to be very fun right. It's it's really going to be hard to control it. I would think curse surprises me about Arizona. Because they're used to do that in spring training when Ellen and the kids just you know. He has three kids under three. I think You know they live in Arizona with him. I mean they. They should stay there. It's like I think you'd be able to see your families Raised that how it would work or they would they. Would THEY SEQUESTER STUCK IN THE HOTEL? Yes they're sequestered. Okay Yeah I mean I I get that because I I feel like I would have the same conversation to like. I don't know if you know if they said the NBA season is restarting. And the only way you're going to be allowed to covered as if you live in a hotel for two months. I don't know that I could do that. Like not. See My family and kid for two two whole months like not even an off day. It'd be pretty rough. I mean you kind of have to do what you at some point like in our jobs and our our situation you have to do with John Calls for some point site Ram. You're those are pretty extreme measures. I mean that's almost like being a astronaut going off into space free big long mission. Sure I mean I said it yesterday. That's the position. Basically what you said yesterday is what I said. This is the job I signed up for and if I've gotTA DO SIDELINES FOR WHATEVER. It is two months or whatever they need to do. This is the job I signed up for. And that's the reality of the job. You know who? I don't know it's going to be an interesting question when we all get back to this whenever that is whether it's you know in July or August I I kind of. I'm taking Adam silver point of view. Which is that. None of us know what the world's going to look like in a month so let's so instead of trying to predicted. Let's just kind of roll with it being moment and you talk about the. What would it take to be okay with this? I thought I noticed something in baseball. Yesterday I thought it was going to be really important. Ten thousand players and coaches have signed up to be part of this antibody study. And it's kind of like one of the largest group of Not just players like players coaches team employees. Everybody who's just like working session workers so the reason why that's important is because it's not just so you can hear Daniel screaming in the background. He's okay it's okay come on. Let's go eat breakfast. And this is what age is doing a eighteen month right Texan everything. Okay in there the But when you because when they do these antibody studies you want to have the best cross section of people that you can you? WanNa have you WANNA have a real diverse crossing. So you don't want to just have players you don't just have coaches. You WanNa have team employees concession workers etc so that you have a real comprehensive slice of population right of a group of people and I think it's really important you know that they're doing that it also though gets around some of the political ramifications of sports teams leagues etc having more access to testing than the general public and. I think that you know in the NBA if they were to do. Let's say the bubble thing you know like go to Vegas or whatever. Maybe there's an Eastern Conference bubble in Western Conference bubble. I don't know if they were to do the bubble thing everyone would have to be tested and they'd have to. I don't know how many tests is that twenty thousand I mean. How could you justify using all those tests for just so we can have sports right like there's that sort of social and political question and it's really a moral question to but if you did it in service of science where you're part of a large scale antibody testing thing? I think you could probably sell that. I think you could probably do that so I don't know if everybody knows that story yesterday. That seems pretty important to me. Yeah it is. It is and Mayor Garcetti and Gu Governor Newsom of basically similar things about Just real quick on a new news perspective as far as large scale crowds in California and particularly here in L. A. With mayor. Garcetti don't expect until two thousand twenty one is basically the point so make sure you you keep that in mind as things are going but sports could be back we will talk to Ethan Strauss next. He's got a book called the Victory Machine about basically the warriors dynasty and how broke up. And really how Lebron was the impetus to a lot of this and how player movement and player empowerment has kind of changed the game. We'll get to all that with Ethan next.
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"<hes> michael gimme richler whoo ooh that means michael thompson that sounds so much cooler than the stupid grow is the information. It's mason in ireland. We have a lot to get to. I hate being here by the way why is that. This is the ireland icebox. Keep your house at this temperature. Okay don't go to the islands. We're gonna get to that coming up. I was watching rich. Eisen stevie show this morning and they got in this huge debate over what temperature pitcher you should leave your room still you can still meeting here. Folks i sixty seven or below. You are what seventy seven and above you would be fine in eighty degree eurotel ribs eighty degrees. You're happy right. I liberty with sweat like it. It'd be you sleep in eighty degree while you're you're not nordic. It's not like you have to have it. Cold all sleep better when it's cold. No i'd like to be warm and toasty. Well welcome to the mason and god sort of originators us closer to the equator or you closer to the arctic circle people yeah the irish all right lots to get to today including the fact act that the dodgers did it again last night michael. Do you realize their sixty and sixteen at home. Yeah and eleven walk off. What's the record for walk ours in two thousand sixteen fifty and sixteen fifty and sixteen. What's the record a major league record for walk off. The dodgers. Have a record of twelve walk off home runs which was was in two thousand twelve and max and <hes> maximum data again last night but first michael hit another home run will smith well. He's got twelve. This is how sad sports net l._a. I want to will is lifted. The laughs down the blue. He has twelve home runs in less than ninety at bats which means if he would've been in for the full season he would be on pace to fifty home. Runs like bellinger is and then what greg was talking about and you were talking about in the bottom of the tenth. Max muncie saved the day slap yeah. That's joe davis along with orel hershiser and sports net l._a. Dodgers win it two to one but michael. It wasn't all good. They lead one to nothing walker. Bueller pitched great pitched seven innings right greg only allowed five hits seven innings zero runs eight strikeouts right so buehler's great and like we talked about on the show yesterday you weren't here michael. They go to kenley jansen joe kelley pitches. The eighth doesn't allow run they go to kenley jansen and rowdy tellas tags him in the top of the ninth again the three two and a deep fly autorite feel rowdy as his title ballgame. You're going to get charged with another blown. Save for the dodgers. That's their twenty second blown. Save this year. We've talked about achilles heel that might be at right there another cutter that he didn't get inside and rowdy with that outstanding power is able to pull it out of the ballpark. That's why you have to stay away for homerun hitters. It could tie up the game. That was the toronto call. Dan shulman from e._s._p._n. Games for the raptors are the raptors. Let's more my headset for the blue jays during the season season and so michael the dodgers have some decisions to me. I'm gonna be s.'s does the six six blown saves yep. He has six months as which the second most his career greg greg even worse. He has a career high three point seven oh e._r._a. I know you and mason say he's. You're closer. You gotta stick with them. I think you guys got. I think he's got to admit you're wrong on this. I think it's time for him to move on really is raw. He's like arthur funds rally early before he can't say the word wrong right. It's just he has he. He's throwing a cutter at ninety two miles an hour and the ball's not cutting so it's just right down the pipe for these guys and they're just sitting on it waiting for it and he's just as not he's not right. He needs to go into non low leverage situations and actually his last three innings that he's pitched. We're all non save situations and he was great clean cleanings. Everything was perfect except for when he goes in the last two times he's gone out. I save homerun all right so michael. Here's the question you've paid kenley jansen. He's in the second or third year greg that deal. Look that up please second <hes>. You've paid kenley jansen eighty nine hundred million dollars to be your closer. He was the best closer in baseball two years ago. Yeah he appears to have lost it or at least is in a miserable slump. This dodger team has the best record in baseball. They are twenty games up in their own division. The division is already decided. Do you and it would be a blow to his confidence like he's not going to pitch again in this series. They've decided they're only going to use them. One series down the stretch. Do you audition other people to be your closer and give up on kenley jansen. Even though you've paid him a ridiculous amount of money. What would you do well. Let's see it's this august milwaukee's august the twenty second to go into lad gave him a few more saves. He continues to do this because the dodgers have a nice fat cushion so they can afford the blow a few games because they obviously favors to come out of the n._f._l. This year now wait a minute one greg you said in my ear no they can't explain why well the the new york yankees are coming in this weekend are right there neck and neck for best record in the league. I don't mean nothing oh yes. It's michael homefield in the world series. Does that mean anything to you. Dodgers are fifteen sixteen at home because we've seen teams who didn't have the home field is going to road and win and astro city two years the more common in baseball and it isn't basketball. You need if you can get those games against great michael. Here's may be wrong about this review kershaw. Her shot and buehler are almost unbeatable this year at home yeah but playhouses old different animal as you've seen these dodgers right but you wouldn't value home field in the world service. You know you you you you would put kenley jansen over finding out if he can close overhaul and give you a couple more weeks. I take it this early september and if he keeps doing blown saves they said okay. I guess we gotta try. The people going down the stretch so greg if the trade deadline's gone if kinley janssen's not the closer joe kelley aureus destined made auditions justin may as a closer. What do you do well. Those are all all three of those guys work except for most likely it would be a tony gunslinger would have a better chance at it right now over dustin may who has been very good out of the bullpen were dozen may has kind of been iffy but joe kelley has been fantastic since the beginning of june so he's probably going to get them. I chance at it orients when he comes back from suspension. We'll get a chance at it but they're going to start going by closer by committee other got although dave roberts has come out and said that kenley jansen is still the closer despite the fact that he's only pitching in one game per series right now michael. It's their only weakness literally they are. They hit home runs like like no other team ever. They're almost unbeatable at home. Their bench is insanely deep. This is so important. Would you even even mess around with a in the playoffs. You don't need five starters which is going to the bullpen already greg right yep and so is ross stripling see those guys don't sound like closer to me. No they're not could richhill clo. Yes richhill can close and that's when he gets back. He is your force starter starter in in the postseason but if they need him in another situation they could very well used him there because he can be that guy. I let me ask you guys. Both something joe. Joe kelley went out and pitched a perfect eighth last night right. You may allowed one hit. I can't no he was perfect. Why wouldn't you and i know this is not what they do in baseball but a guy pitched a perfect inning michael in the eighth. Put it back out there. I know he's facing different hitters greg. It's not you're not getting a second look at him. What's why why are we married to these setup. Closer definitions shins as much as we are greg well. It's not it's not so much. The definition of it is the fact that guys are going out. There used to only pitching one inning only getting through a certain amount of pitches with going out for a second inning is a completely different animal you have to you go go sit. Different fingers used to pitch like we're not talking about. The get out of here. Michael is isn't this is an opie land like this is what i what phase six battery that greg. You ran uphill both ways snow in a minute. Though isn't this really a pitch count issue for example a lot of times. If joe kelley gets the this yes. I don't know how many twelve okay so ten to twelve pitches. That's not a lot no if he has a fifty pitch inning. I get your point point but if he has a fifteen pitching send it back out there until he struggles. It's striking people out right but if you go out there and then you have to go sit and then and come back out again you can say oh please. This is how the game works. Give him a solid relievers work. Make up some green tea lapiz arm in a towel but that's that's starters work because they're used to that. These guys are going out there for sometimes one batter sometimes just for one inning joe kelly is not used to pitching multiple innings he probably could but a lotta times julio arias has gone out so many times and he's used to pitching three innings fantastic in that first-inning then he comes out for the second starts getting beat up it just relievers. Just don't work that way. I it depends on who it is unless you're a starter turned into reliever. It's a different animals that you put on you. Put your mind to it as good as these guys can do it but what's so weird about this is the dodgers are so so good in every other aspect of the game. Do they greg. Do they have another weakness. Besides bullpen basis really hard there defensively. They're good. They're deep they. They've got great pinch hitters. They do everything well. They have great offensively. They're great defensively. They're deepen deepen every single position. They've a great starting pitching my best team. I've seen it they literally. It's the definition of an achilles heel you steady mythology. It's like they have this one weakness and that's it. Has there ever been a perfect team. That does everything perfect you would say your lakers were perfect in nineteen eighty-seven yeah but but let me see them be basketball baseball baseball u._c._s. so weakness somewhere right yeah and this is it and so the dodgers indecision some decisions to make okay coming up next. Did you guys see kyle kuzma now. I missed it. I actually was gonna taper watching later when i got home but i saw blew out australia surprise u._s._a. Looks surprisingly dominant and one of the reasons was coups. We'll get into that next michael thompson information. I'm john ireland mason and ireland e._s._p._n. L._a. mason jason ireland show michael thompson is in for macy's and this morning michael very early. Let's see the five a._m. Right no earlier neck 'cause 'cause. I woke up at five and it was late in the game. I started to that early two or three a australia's. How many hours ahead is thirteen fourteen hours. Something like that so australia is hosting u._s._a. These are not tournament games either friendly's exhibition games but the australian team is sorry is five seventeen a._m. In register early right now yeah. It's a fifteen hours twelve doing math on the air seventeen eighteen hours okay so the team u._s._a. Is in australia and the australian teams have been there no but i want to you you f right now. I have never been death far south or far west but everybody tells me it's beautiful all right so on that team is aron. Baynes played in played in college with klay right cleveland and new zealand for the under nineteen championships. The most beautiful countries overseeing joe ingles is on this team matthew ova patty. Mills is probably their best player player as well. I thought they'd give the team u._s._a. Tough game not so much the u._s._a. Although it was close at halftime it was forty four forty three at halftime halftime the u._s._a. Then bloom out in the second half and beat them one to eighty six and one of the biggest stars for team in u._s._a. Was kyle kouzmine. Who did it all now. When i turned on the game michael that'd be here in an n._b._a. T._v. crew but they picked up the australian broadcasts. So you hear a couple of ozzy announcer calling this. When i'm crocodile dundee <hes> they sound like it's the most famous aussie rod laver the array okay all right <hes> but listen to how much coups mma affected this game j maroney's back shows the bulls spice line complies with the guy in the u._s. Crews were off and running with donovan mitchell now harassed by golden. The bowl dislodged like it outside harris. What's it's inside. The defendant meet support the kushner and the kona pay five by slot and kills bugs worked. Look the club join the school's. A little curious tantalized was rejected back to the u._s. I listened listen four-minute supply tim number one title twos mitts off of the vines woodland hills these two to six point shot talk just in time so good pressure today from the trans round running mills couldn't control the coughed it up and a chance napa middleton the inside outside touts mahela bikes putting on a show and with stop. Let's see kerr's. He's just got a beautiful beautiful. Stroking plays with say a beautiful released writer of short stringer too late at the start of his they will try to work their way back into the frame. His charisma far as takes five got twelve so bottom line michael kyle kuzma made four of six shots four of five from three finished with twelve points and just one thousand nine minutes when you heard he came up with a couple of defensive stops is there any question out of couse was going to make this team or no question at all. He's definitely on the team to solidify. Twelve thirteen guy stole yeah. They gotta make one cut. It would appear the cut could be marcus smart. He's a little bit banged up and he was the one guy who didn't play the other twelve. Guys all play de eh. Here's the team jalen brown donovan mitchell miles turner kimball walker and joe harris started the bench is harrison barnes lope brook lopez miles plumlee chris middleton jason tatum derek whyte marcus smart and coups and i think kuzma has played so well that gregg popovich whose the coach of that team has to keep him. Oh yeah that's another question they they needed versatility his outside shooting the ability to garden muscle the position so yeah. He's definitely on the team. Are you disappointed that more elite players didn't agree to play for team u._s._a. Yes <hes> very disappointed because guys use the excuse as well obviously if anybody's hurt two can't go but guys who are healthy and chose not to play and we all know who the elite players are who are healthy enjoying their summers chose not to go to the world. Oh cup. They all will be in tokyo next year all the guys who turned down u._s._a. This year are going to be on the olympic team. Next year and you know who the players are. You can just go through them in your head. None of those guys are gonna turn down if they're healthy chance to represent the u._s. Olympic games but what say what they don't understand is yeti. Olympic games are the most most important things for american basketball but for international basketball for world basketball the world cup is more important than the olympic games because in olympic games i think so you have twelve teams who qualified what in the world copy of twenty four countries who were there and it means more to international place to win the world cup in this to win an olympic gold medal and dan team u._s._a. When you team u._s._a. Around it down in rio i didn't mean to the world champion wife went and <hes> they treat eight the players and the accompany family members like heads of state i mean the treatment is off the charts ireland <hes> the travel you travel in the best biggest private planes. You can imagine agean <hes> they. They set up seven star hotels. You have a banquet at your disposal every night to eat out. It is such first class by beyond beyond first class treatment it is it goes beyond what is necessary and when you're a great team u._s._a. Issue play no more than twenty minutes so it's not like you really taxing your body so i don't understand why a lot of an you get us off a nice shiny gold medal. You put in your trophy case and look when you're seventy years now. Now's a cool. I probably shouldn't assume anything but if they want to if they want to both lebron anthony davis will on the olympic team right. Nobody's told us anything yet placement in the last two correct world cup and olympic team and he says he desperately wants to be on the olympic team in tokyo if if he's healthy if he shows the joe michelson clay is not healthy he pull he tornado. He's he's recovering. He probably won't be playing basketball till february or more like that but if he's healthy and he's all the way back which we're hoping you expect that he will be. He says he wants to go to tokyo and play for 'cause. He'll be thirty years old so i'll be his last chance gold-medal. He says he wants that opportunity if he's healthy and if the he selected by team u._s._a. Is anyone turned down and as far as lebron a._d. Oh believe me this lebron's last chance to win a gold all metal and a d did not go to rio <hes> because of the remember the zeka virus. Everybody likes the mosquitoes which obviously was not a problem once we got there but yeah those two oh god i will go out on a limb and say those two guys will be invited to for team u._s._a. And they will be there if they're healthy. Durant has a torn achilles but he's been critical in the last two olympic gold. He was able if he doesn't play it all in the n._b._a. Season can we is it too hard to speculate that he would beyond the elephant does not if he's healthy. It'll be twelve months from his injury. The olympic games won't be till september. I think they august-september and if he's back and he's showing that he is back. I bet you team u._s._a. Will invite him and i could see him using the olympic games as a way to get himself ready for for the season okay so here's the last thing went asha about this. Kyrie irving was born in australia betty since he played for team u._s._a. He's an american now american and he can play for you for australia if he wanted to but he would have to petition petition fiba to get permission to play for another country and they're given permission the play for another country if he wanted to do that now what about a guy like joel embiid who's from cameroon maroon but now lives in the united states and cameroon probably won't make the olympics could could he play for our country. If he's an american citizen he has to become a citizen like you. Did it yeah like if he says he hasn't played in a nationally for any other country if he's in because a member came along and did that born in nigeria but he became a u._s. Citizen and he played in an atlanta for the for the u._s. So he can do it and who's the biggest competition both at this world cup and at the olympics and i thought it was australia i it was canada. I thought it was canada. Canada have some players dropout wiggins. Wiggins is not playing of jamal. Murray elected not to place that i'd really her son. Tristan thompsons not planning for canada so canada has the most n._b._a. players in the n._b._a. So i thought more in spain more than spain getting older and we just saw with the u._s. Did to spain when it down anaheim last week they did split. Toyota's yokich. Play for serbia serbia's the team. You gotta watch out because the you heard me. The coach said about team u._s._a. Yes they're not worried about them at all. The only that he says yeah yeah reno team u._s._a. Is good and so are we but if if we ever meet the team u._s._a. God help him and his is it possible. They meet in the world. Yes and it's definitely not definitely a possible they will be that would be the gold medal game because those are the two best teams right now as far whereas i see all right so so far so good for kyle kuzma and team u._s._a. Down in australia they have one more game. It's over the weekend and then they head to the world championships which are where <hes> beijing and sh- beijing's definitely why the city's maybe shanghai so. I think that'll be three trips to china for coups because the lakers are going back. That's right and <hes> but he says he's not passing this opportunity to play for team u._s._a. He s to make the team yet but i think this is great for him. I like harrison barnes at harrison barnes because harrison was on on the rio olympic team he says anytime u._s._a. Basketball wants him. He's gonna take advantages opportunity because it's such an honor to represent the country and it's so much fun to win medals like he set and for people who don't know you think the world of harrison barnes as one of your favorite players on and off the court unbelievable young man if you have a son i saw you want your son to turn out to be just the way he conducts inducts himself how smart he is. He's just he's just a gentleman through and through just a great guy any wanna title with klay in the warriors before durant as best friends yeah and and and <hes> and so that's that's the type of the whole experience for coups. We'll be like rub off on him. Hanging around with guys and coups are so young. He's probably gonna get another chance because he's making a a good impression with team u._s._a. Now he probably won't be on the tokyo team but after that in twenty twenty four where the olympic games in twenty four the hearing them and you know twenty eight here okay and remember where they went and twelve twenty coups will be one of the favorites the to be on the olympic teams and twenty twenty four yeah and and i you know there's a reason think about all all those young they're in paris in twenty four okay yeah and then in los angeles in twenty eight. You're the lakers trip made that big trade for anthony davis all those young guys and the guy who ends up on team usa as the guy they kept good for coups as great great opportunity for all right michael information. I'm john ireland e._s._p._n. L._a. mason ireland show oh. I'm john ireland. Michael thompson is sitting in for mason michael. There was a situation last night in houston and i can't decide who's is right and who's wrong so i'm going to throw it at you and greg and you guys can can weigh in so the astros were overwhelming favorites to beat the detroit tigers offers. The astros have one of the best records in baseball. The tigers have the worst so they were huge favorites to win in houston last night over the tigers as often happens in in these regular middle the season baseball games. The tigers won so is the biggest gambling upset and five years but that's not what everybody is talking about. The tigers wanted to to one hit two solo home runs off justin verlander who pitched great vern lander after the game said he would not talk to anybody anybody in the media. If the detroit free press was allowed in the scrums quite he played there for thirteen years and he has a personal problem with the the reporter for the tigers who feels has been unethical and unfair so he told the astros the astros communicated that to the reporter quarter before the game and after the game they let everybody in and this one reporter was stopped at the door and they said sorry you can't come in and three security guys. The the detroit free press reported up. They said this is not allowed. They have to allow a reporter in he's breaking the rules. They should be fined <hes> and when you hear that much in verleger talked without this guy being there and then they let the guy in and the guy walked up to overlander and he said i have nothing to say to you and he walked away and when i first heard that part of the story i thought well ver- landers wrong here. He can't decide who covers them and who doesn't cover him but then i heard ver- landers side of the story. I can't wait to hear this alright verlaine under says that he called the detroit free press yesterday and told him hey. I want to talk to you guys about something. I have a personal problem with your reporter unless you talk to me. I'm not gonna speak to them tomorrow night. So if you wanna send somebody else he should because i'm pitching tomorrow night and i'm not gonna talk to him. Unless you guys talked to me i the detroit free press ignored him. Verlander called him again again the morning of the game yesterday and said and he emailed him and he said guys. I'm not kidding. If this guy's is there tonight i will not speak to him. I'm giving you advanced warning so you can make other arrangements. They ignored him again. So then after the game that other scenario played out and verleger hasn't said specifically what the problem is but he says they are obviously uninterested in hearing my side of the story and so i'm not gonna talk to them until they do. Who's right who's wrong in that situation well. It all depends now. What i'm wondering is this reporter stupid report or something personal and in in berlin his personal life. Did he say something about his wife kate upton <hes> did he cross the line personally. That's what i'm wondering. I think this reporter was critical verlaine his pitching or his performances or you know somebody really let me read you exactly what verlander tweeted today <hes> tweeted this morning i declined to speak with the free press rep last night because as of his unethical behavior in the past i reached out to the free press multiple times before the game to notify them why and to give them an opportunity to have someone else there her ironically they didn't answer although i tried to avoid this situation altogether i've still reached out to the free press multiple multiple times today with no response. They're still not interested in my side of the story so greg. He tried to contact yesterday. He tried to contact them today. The detroit free press feels like they're on an ethical issue here and they're not gonna talk to them. They don't think justin verlander should have any say in who covers and who doesn't who's right here verlinden or the free press well by the rules. The free press is right now. I wonder if if verleger himself reached out or if he had his agent or representative reach out for him. I don't think matters greg. This reporter was just extremely critical offers performances on the field. This business about business bill is critical of everybody. I understand that and it's okay. I was a player in a league guy and i was criticized for a lack of production or whatever and you have to accept that but did this reporter go personal. Did he say something about his family by his wife sure well. You don't have to answer any any questions from him himself. As i'm wondering if the the best the line of this report across and that's why we're orlando refuses to talk to him then for lenders right but if he's mad the report it because reporters critical of his play then were lenders wrong. I i actually think greg that in this particular case that's why you have editors. That's why you have editors unders and chief. That's why you have people in management. If this situation came up here if if somebody at the dodgers or the angels said i will never do media if somebody from seven to ten e._s._p._n. Is here because i have a personal problem with one of their reporters. With one of the cabinet skis the first of all one of our management people dan's in pillow or scott mccarthy would get on the phone sure and they would say explain to me your position and then we'll decide but but why wouldn't the free press return his calls or his emails you can't you gotta find out what's bothering him don't you i mean the eastern michaels question if it has something to do with how you covered him as a pitcher i then i think you send the reporter ripe you backer and you say we stand behind him and you put him in their if it if it is personal if he like let's say for example he was trying to break the kate upton thing and he went to like in called a personal friend or arelatively of justin's or cates and tried to get a story that way if they contacted my mom you know because they were doing a story about me. I'd be furious sure but why are you talking talking to. Nobody else wired because this guy's there. I refuse to talk to anybody because this guy is just in the room. No we're not to answer his questions. You don't have this report is because he feels stories because he feels that strongly about it yeah michael. I think you have to get the answer to your question. Nasa would line the the report across and then once you have that answer if earlier was just in there have been players in other sports in baseball who have done this russell. Westbrook wouldn't talk to the guy in oklahoma city remember and that guy in oklahoma city had never gotten personally. He's just talk about the guy's name is buried trammell and he'd been covering the team years just in like you've got we've got to find out and by the way early under if he went public with what this guy did could end this debate and win it absolutely but he's i think for landers actually being professional here sure but russell westbrook still answered other people's questions you know other people he did not answer buried train question member didn't michael. Well didn't stonewall. Everybody know he answered other people other people yes when asked various questions you answer the other reporter's question so that's that's the way to do. It like find donates next question next question. You don't have have to answer that. Guy's question you don't even have to you can talk to you the the astros p._r. People and say don't give him a microphone right but he still they. They are getting quotes from verlinden. Verlinden doesn't want to help him in any way and if he was personally i actually think sure somebody who's been in this business for thirty thirty years. If you ever talk about somebody's family can more time you know that that's what happened right but but why wouldn't you at least here his side of it if the free the free press is smart today they will call for landers agent and say we are here. We wanna hear your side of the story and then we'll decide whether or not to pull her beat writer and most of the times they won't they'll back the beat right like barry trammell what was backed. I am sure we had bill on. If we had paci john he would say there have been guys that have stopped talking to him because bill's very opinionated yeah i was a big bill doesn't get personal. I was t._j. Timers guy and t._j. Used to rib everybody oh you know he used to joke with everybody and make fun of them and if you didn't get it t._j. Could really make you mad but t._j. Never felt got personal <hes> <hes> i. I think that if i need to know this guy did if the guy went if he crossed the line of personal into his personal life than i cyber verlinden eh just about baseball and vernon is wrong. Gotta talk to him like or to say be you can be kurt with an occurred rambus of course but you can as far as your in your with your questions or your answers or say rustled respite the next question yeah i mean i know i've been around enough p._r. People michael you you were you were under the great john black. I worked with john for many years of john was involved in this john would find out what the issue and then he would decide whether or not to back vert lander right or or go without you know one thing about john was he was too. I mean professional to a false. I mean like he would not let this get to what it's got right through thick and that that's why i'm very interested to see what the next turn the stories okay. There is a huge debate going on right now michael about pickup basketball and you're uniquely qualified to answer it. I'll tell you what it is next michael thompson information for mason john ireland e._s._p._n. L._a. are off the air conversations. Today are excellent. Michael thompson is information. I'm john ireland okay michael. I'm sure you've heard about this but there is a raging debate and by greg is meena in for the top of the hour. She is calling in at one o'clock. Okay so many times who has been doing the ram games uncovers the n._f._l. For e._s._p._n. Is gonna join us in less than fifteen minutes so we'll talk n._f._l. Coming up michael. There's a video going around of a pickup game in this pickup. Game is devon booker also in this pickup game joachim. Noah and booker is being double teamed in the pickup game. They throw him the ball in the right wing gets it and he's hot and he's lightnings other guys up so they send a second defender adam to get the ball out of his hands. <hes> booker says when they send the second offender guys come on. We're working on our games here it. It's a pickup game. Don't double team in a pickup game and noah goes hell that we're trying to win the game. We'll do what we we want on defense so it is started this huge debate over whether it's appropriate to double team in a pick up game where there's no money and no nothing at stake. It's guys working on games right. Andre iguodala and draymond green have both weighed in mood. They think it's okay hey to double team a pig. They say they used to do this to durant durant used to get furious. Durant has weighed in and said if they would have done this at the u._c._l._a. Pickup games and all those guys running u._c._l._a. Claes find. Some of those durant said i would've gone right back to malibu. You don't double team in a pick up game. Trae young says i would've would've reacted exactly the way devon booker did we're working on moves in games and shots. You don't double team to pick up game. If if you're lighting a guy up your lighting up i've played pick up basketball. Most of my life and i've never seen a double team in a pick up game but you played professionally. You've been in these offseason loose pickup up games. Who's right here devon booker joachim noah. I'm going with <hes> joking. You try to win and if you go up against a korean meaningless game well. It's not meaningless if you if you win stays on the note and you gotta go sit out fifteen thirty minutes. They'll come back on the court. If you know because that's what how did you pick up games works now. Now you gotta go sit out. 'cause you lost and you gotta wait thirty minutes to play a game so no you as long as you don't hurt anybody do whatever comes necessary to win the game and if you're playing against the kareem or shack akeem olajuwon believe me. I'm going to need some help to try to stop specimen the games online come and help me out so not mind that and if you're being double teamed well as part of the game that you're going to probably see doing a regular anglicized anyway can work on getting out of the double team passing out a double team. You can work on that part of the game. Well booker average seven assists a game last year so he knows what to do when it gets dribbled but he wants to work on his on his has often every possession to certain possession so that's part of the game really yeah. Jalen rose agrees with you. Yeah jalen rose says that hey you play play play to win these late games on winding everybody's whining about everything these days you know relievers can go see six batters anymore double team meager 'cause. I want to score please what happened to man mankind. Let's man in this country. Does seem like everybody is hyper. Sensitive about everything so soft about everything now all right. Did you see the rams game in hawaii and saturday parts of it and they play again this saturday. Meena times is calling the ram games on t._v. And meena covers the n._f._l. She'll join us coming up mason and ireland michael thompson information e._s._p._n. L._a.
Mason and Ireland HOUR TWO
"Hi, what's up? It is a dark dark Monday. Am I exaggerating? No, it's pretty depressing. It is really sad would happen. So I said good news and bad news about the dodgers. First the bad news. Mike Di Giovanni is that correct dip? News on Clayton Kershaw. He's looking more and more doubtful for his opening day start as he rebounds from shoulder inflammation. Dave Roberts says, quote, the main thing is he's trending in the right direction. So that look that means Walker. Bueller opening day? Yes. Walker? Bueller? Opening Gregory or the good news. Yeah. If it's such a little of both, right? Right. Trending in the right direction. You deserve to be the anyway, actually, here's the really good news who were ES struck out three in two innings today and was clocked as high as ninety eight miles an hour. He did allow along homerun to Evan longoria. But that's as I earned run of the spring throw a ninety eight miles an hour. He may figure into the rotation. Yep. Sounds like it. All right. Don't forget. It's a fifth row. Friday's going on. You're listening to Caspian Los Angeles. We've got Lakers kings March twenty fourth in the fifth row that could be for a playoff berth. Good, especially if the Lakers, go on a big run tonight city big run run. Plus, you get an autograph basketball chairman's club passes super guts gift card. Here's how you answer all five questions about this week shows they'll be one from each day if you can answer all five Friday at two thirty you win the whole price package super-coach fifth row Fridays. Brought to you by SuperBeets super catch. You can enjoy the signature hot towel finish free of charge with every haircut. Cannot have any moment to salute someone salute as you know, I used to play a lot of pickup basketball in one of the games. I played in. Was Monday night league that believe it or not Luke Perry from nine to one in the league. And today Luke died. He was only fifty two. That's terrible. I'm hit a stroke last week. He died of complications from the stroke could not have been a nicer guy. And remember he there was a time where he and those other kids on I know. Yeah. Were the big this is before things went viral, right? They were the biggest and sations in the country. They were shutting down shopping malls, just by showing up for a peer Ince's they hung out at the peach pit right peach with NAT not. But a a strong hail fellow. Well, man to Luke Perry who was a crafty left-handed point guard and an overall just a rental watch Riverdale to show Riverdale, but they actually shut production down because he was on that show and. And you reading all the tributes coming into them, and they'll all be glowing. He was I mean, he could have you see a lot of those teen heartthrobs kind of crater in and have trouble later in life. He was the opposite. Yeah. Like couldn't have been nicer was a dad heads kids, and so best wishes out to his family and and gonna miss him. He was a really good, dude. All right. So that's that's the serious moment for the show. Let me let me through something. I had a dialer die limb. A die limb. Okay. So I'm at the movies, and you are often where I am often. And I was seeing an obscure art film. It was called Gerhard burnt collector is an animated film by God. You'll watch anything. It really it Gerhard burnt confetti Calang Ruben Brent Ruben brand collect. Okay. Good way. Who is Gerhard Burke? I don't know who that is why I don't know really Gerhard brand is he's over the Monica, and I love Khanaqin console. You're in the theater in the theater and the lady right in front of me at I I think she's just on her phone like, she's texting and stuff annoying. Then I notice she is recording the entire movie. She's got her phone. There was a Seinfeld episode this looting reinsurance bootleg in the movie who lagging and by the Ruben Brandt collector is what she was bootlegging. I would say if you're going to bootleg do it with a more right mainstream movie. So I went this is an it's very rare for me. Okay. I got up went out told the manager and said don't come in for five minutes because I don't and then came in I pointed at her any leaves and then five minutes later comes in and boots the lady from the theater, and I don't know. Do you think charges should be pressed? I'm good question. I'm the witness, and and by the way, you're narc I'm a witness. And you know, what here's the thing. I year where you you were the one that if if Greg if we're all in the same class and Greg is cheating off of my paper. You would call the teacher over in report, Greg. Here's here's the thing. This is I really value people who make movies and. You've got to live in this world, all the people. It takes to make a movie, and I hate to see somebody steal that without any. Well, not some your question was should charges. Be pressed. Yes, unless you do it. It's a federal crime. Right. I mean, I think that there are certain things that you want to make an example out of in. This sounds like one of them. I think if you don't press charges, then what's the disincentive for someone did not do it tomorrow. Yeah. The not necessarily in that movie. But maybe in like Black Panther to the premise, then I gotta be a witness. And I thought you spend enough time in corden last year, they want to do it. So they're asking what you're in it. Now, will you come in and testify, and I'm like, I don't know why is this worse than what I do. It's the same as what you do. No. It's not I'm not sitting in her stealing intellectual property. Why are you kind of are? You're stealing intellectual property. Absolutely not. How are you? Not you don't pay for content. But that doesn't. Mean that I'm stealing it myself. So Steve yet, and I'm doing here, consuming it, I'm consuming. You're part of the problem. I'm the guy that Bob part of the problem with the side of the street. I bought the DVD. Yes. Without you back that without you, the contents stealing business doesn't survive. Yeah. You're the reason it exists or the reason it's they're there for me. But I'm not even paying for. No, that's your so don't even know you're doing here. It's the same reason that I don't know that I'm doing right came to massage parlors and Paul survived because of Bob cry. That's not funny. I don't know. No, no, no. I mean massage parlors. Yeah. Underlying crimes terrible awful. But seriously that it exists because guys like Bob Kraft, the same thing intellectual paying for it exist because of you you are solely responsible. I am not you know, what I just convinced myself. I'm going to court again. I will I will show up as a witness because I think it's here's Andre dryer says three words to you, this niches get stitches, you better hope that person was that person that you read it out. He's not listening right now tell you they are going to be waiting for you in the parking lot. I'll tell you in parks in the east garage. Go live go see his follow the smell of the week. It's mine, but but there's a lot of Wedeman, gresh. So when I was you you are at my theaters in Hawthorne her right? Yeah. So back in TS nineteen Ninety-four is running those theaters on those theaters, and we were playing a movie called low down dirty. Shame. Do remember? Remember under shame. So I walk into the theater one night. And there is a guy with a tripod setup. Not even the days of the camcorder was using acknowle and tempting to hide. Oh. And I pitched the guy and told the studio, and I think they busted him, which is the right thing. But that's unbelievable to set up a try Pol. It was it was that was really ballsy. That's like if you're going to go big is is Michael Thompson here, Greg. Yes. Okay. Find him. I have a dilemma that. I think is going to break on intellectual lines between Mason, HOGAN, Michael most things break along intellectual. But this one's interesting, and it involves the NBA. Okay. Okay. So we can do that coming up. All right, Mason and Ireland ESPN, Greg. Where's Michael Thompson? Well, before we get to him that lets you said because he needs he needs sound to do we need the sound to do this have Michael stopping in. Right. He we need to find the sound. I okay. So. You ask them not to did. And the reason because I wanted to hear you guys today by yourselves without Michael Michael comes in there. Most of the time it turns into strong during this whole did. All right. So let let's do this. That's the NFL the NFL combine is is going on right now, this it is right. So this writer named Alex Kirschner from SP nation. Have you heard about this came up with an idea? There are only three punters. Okay. Okay. At the combine three total. So this is a crazy idea. But it's kind of funny he came up with fourteen different objects. And he had the punters rank how far they could actually punt each item. So I have the results I was going to do some fast track. But I think it's gonna take longer. So I'll give you two items you guys tell me which one the punters could kick further. Okay. Yep. All right, number one a burrito or a ball of yarn, Greg. What do you think of NFL punter could kick farther a burrito or a ball of yarn? A ball of yarn J a ball of yarn. No burrito. It's heavier than a ball of yarn. Mason is correct. Here's what they said. I would ask for a burrito. That's really tightly wrapped up. And I think I could get that farther, but light. But it would unravel the boulevard would unravel unravel the the burrito, especially if it's packed really tight super gonna explode on your foot. Yeah. All right, number two wrong on all right? Number two. A balloon filled with helium or a loaf of bread J a balloon filled with helium or a loaf of bread. What could they punt farther loaf of bread Mace? Well, a balloon goes straight up I will say a loaf of bread. Greg say the balloon because it would go straight up and go very far Greg hit it on the head the balloon. According to the punter one of the punters the balloon is full of helium if you punt it it's going to go up in the winds gonna take it. It could go fifteen miles away. Right. That's right. All right. There are only two more of these great Greg one Steve one and as usual Jazeera all right for three professionally bad at all of our games. A number three a cabbage ahead of cabbage. Yup. Or a hockey puck Mace cabbage. All right, Greg. A hockey puck J break the tie the cabbage. Greg and Steve are correct. None. None. Head of cabinet. Yeah. Henna cabbage winners. And Steve our car. Yeah. Right. Yeah. It's always said, okay, Greg. So you great you missed it a cabbage. According to the very very say, I feel like a cabbage would be really satisfying to kick it might fall apart a little bit. That would be number one. I it'd be a satisfaction thing. I'd love to break it. So it gets a higher grade for me you just lost the hockey. Puck would just hurt. Yeah. True. Would. All right. So last one. Yup. Mason leads by one. This one's worth two and a half two and a half a laptop or a knit cap, Greg a laptop or a mid cap. Oh, man. It's like the hockey puck. It would hurt. Knit cap. All right. Jay, the laptop the laptop Mason is your winter. They say I think I could get a laptop probably a good fifteen yards depending on. Knit cap. Yeah. Mid cap, you're going to go like five yards, right? Yeah. This by the way, the only thing that's right or did wrong. What's he should've actually had them? Do it. Right. Just ask them to talk about doing it. This would have been a fascinating would've been I would've paid. I actually thought when I read this that you, and I should do it. We should just take. These objects get Janice to come out with a camera and kick all the hitting a Latin see which have people bet on them that I want to bet on who's going to break their foot. I know. Well, that'd be it's already Burs thing. My foot has lots of metal in it. So it can't break. I was thinking know I was told that if I fell building that start one part of me that would not break because it's held together with titanium would do you still or did you ever trip the metal detector at airports? No, it's titanium. And that doesn't it used to back in the day when it was steal. But now, it's titanium so. So so you can walk through without watch. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They'd so I love that story idea Alex Kirschner, but you should've actually had the three there's only three of them. Yeah. Go out, you know, get an expense account from Espy nation. Go by all that stuff. I can give you half of it. I'll give you a knit cap. I'll give you balloon filled with helium, the, you know, I say go for it. And and we should actually kick those no back in the day. We used to have when we were on in San Diego. We knew John kid the punter him and John cryan would come kid would do this. Oh, sure. If we just called them and said, hey, go kick these v. I would I would say Greg the leg would do. But I do not want him. But he's placekicker we would need, Johnny. Hey, Connie, Hecker and Hecker. Would you probably do? Although I don't wanna break in his foot. Can you imagine? If he did it and broke his foot. No cannot afford to lose Johnny Hecker. Our specialty medicine on player. Yeah. Yeah. Last year, by the way to thirty today. I'm taking a bunch of people to see captain marvel Thursday night at the regal opening night. Whereas the remarkable, right, right? The theater we walk by. All right. A lot right in LA live so Thursday nights, seven o'clock, and we're giving away those tickets at two thirty. We'll have some each day this week, captain, mar I will you go out and see captain marvel. I can't Thursday. I am Mr. mom starting Thursday morning at nine. Oh, man. Why Lisa is going to tennis tournament for four days. She is oh, she's not in it. She's just going to watch all going to be professor tennis fantastic. She key believes she is Martina Navratilova win isn't. She liked the best female tennis player in Manhattan. And she were in Maria Sharapova. They and she Lisa Ireland thinks she can do them a story. The best one. The one where we are on the red carpet at the SP might to win your were interviewing grind the SP's. We're interviewing everybody. Yep. And I- Maria Sharapova comes over, and she says, I live in this place called ban Hatton village. It's a development and I say on the air to Maria. I said. This was great. She was so good. And I said, hey, I think you, and I are neighbors. Do you have a place in the village? She goes I do. And I said, oh, this is awesome. My housing price. Just went up and without missing Veton. She goes and mine just went way down. Maria Sharapova for what? Bravo, she was like right on the money, rob. Oh, all right. So actually I want to read you a quote. That I came across here and tell me, I think this particular, quote is pointed at one LeBron James. Okay. You tell me if you think it's right. All right. This is Josh heart kep. The question is does this team still believe in each other, Josh heart? I mean, we have to if you want to get to the goal that we've set for ourselves in the season. We have to believe in each other. We have to. Yeah, we have to believe we have to trust each other. That's what it comes down to at the end of the day. We can't not pass someone the ball or not make a rotation or get our heads down. When something doesn't go. Our way we have to as a unit when adversity starts we have to come together. And that's something we have to keep working towards like I said, we have the talent we have the ability. We have the leadership to pile up winds and to make a run for the playoffs. But we have to do that as a collective unit. And if we don't believe in each other we don't trust each other offensively or defensively we're gonna fail. That's not how you win. This game is about team it's about being selfless. It's about sacrificing for the next player in. If you can't do that. You're not gonna find success. I don't think it's about LeBron. I think it's about. Somebody else. Really, I'll tell you who next Nacer in Ireland ESPN L A K I read that quote from Josh heart just a minute ago about teammates trusting each other about its team. And you said I thought immediately he was talking about LeBron seems eight I to me the team looks like LeBron and everybody else, you don't think it's about LeBron. No, I and. Part of it could be about LeBron. But the the guy who I think is shooting a lot and is not a good shooter is Rhonda. Yeah. I think he feels like he needs to shoot if he's open. He's very well liked by the t shirt because he's a great assetis. Terrible shooter. Right. And I think there was a game that Milwaukee game. But he passes to everybody Rondo pass. Right. The quote, it says not passing the guises. He's not tro. Yeah. Their quotas. You're not passing two people because you don't trust. Well, that could be Rondo run-up pets everybody. Yeah. Get sixteen assists a game. Yeah. But the the issue becomes an I I don't know if trash men anybody in particular, I know he likes LeBron. Yeah. But the one thing that I don't know. What would you guys suggest Rondo do if they leave him absolutely wide open at the three point line like they leave him there? And and as soon as he gets the ball the defender backs up five feet, right? I would say who's got a better shot who's got a better shot than me. And you would shoot it. No, no. I would say find find a guy who's got a better open. Look somebody else is going to be. He's a brilliant passer. Right mean use that skill because shooting wasn't he did he go for ten one night. No, no. He went oh for five and he made his six one, but he had never taken more. More than seven in a game. Yeah. Yeah. And that's one of those you're open for a reason. But I like Rondo I go he's look as a passer is brilliant. As the defender is not good. He's one of the reasons the defense is suffering. Maybe the defenses t it's not a good defender. I know shooting forty one percent from the field. And shockingly thirty way better than I thought he was shooting from three thirty seven percent from three his. The but it came right? It seems to me that there Jim Clements. Phil Phil's old assistant used to say to me if you're wide open a lot. There's a reason they want you to take that shot. You know, the thing. That's weird free throws sixty two percent, which is actually up from where he was by the way, seriously greatest player in the world. Got to make his free throws at the end of a game. Well, the whole team it's not just the buying the old the letters are. Run click those two you have at the Lakers as a team are dead last in the NBA for let me ask you about that. Okay. So I'm an excellent free throw shooter. Yeah. We we prove that. Yes. But how much blame if any? Can you put on coaching that the Lakers for the second year in a row are dead last in free throw shooting? Michael says, none he says that every player knows you have to make your free throws every player since high school is responsible for taking care of themselves. He does not blame the coaching staff. Even one percent. Do you zero percent? You think it's all on the players zero percent. Yeah. First of all if you've got to do if you got the head coaching job in your team the team you're coaching is dead last in free thirsting two years in a row. What would you do about find better free throw shooters? That's it. You can't you can't you can't address it from a coaching guys. I mean, I don't know what the Andre Jordan did because deandre Jordan has now become the the hacker Jordan or the Hakodate Andre doesn't necessarily work anymore because he's able to make his free throws. Suddenly, I told you what he's doing right? What is he doing? I didn't tell you the star. This is fascinating. All right. So Deandra Jordan was generally regarded as one of the worst free throw shooters in NBA history. So this year, and he's now in New York with the Knicks. He started the year in Dallas. The this year. He completely changed his stroke. All right. So you have any his knees more, but right before de'andre, Jordan shoots a free throw. He finds somebody on his team standing in the lane. Right. And he asks them a question or says something about defense on the other end. In other words, he'll say red I gonna shoot it. He'll he'll look at you and go and go. Hey mace. I've got. I've on the other. I got zoo bots on the other end. Right. And you go good. Then he turns and shoots because he's getting himself out of his head. Correct. That is really smart who taught him to do that. All right, so okay. And it's interesting. So here's de'andre free-throw percentage over the years. Okay. In seventeen eighteen. So last season he shot fifty eight percent. Okay. Then. This year he shooting seventy three percent. So he raised it that much. He's had seasons where he shut thirty nine thirty eight forty three either it's a mental device to get out of his own head and it worked so, but but I've asked Luke about this. And he says they've tried everything he said they've stopped practice in the middle and had them shoot free thrive. They've tried meditation. They Phil Jackson's to tell me the check would shoot one hundred free throws a day in practice and make eighty. Yeah. They get in the game. And he was a fifty percent free throw shooter. It's it's the yet shacks would say I can usually make one of two right, right? But I don't know how much you can blame coaches for bad for we say at the beginning of the year. This is not a team comprised of shooters. Well, you've. Okay. You generally don't make your free throw K you've opened a can of worms here that as we discuss why. The Lakers are struggling how much of the blame should be placed on management for not building a roster that had shooting. They talked about star of the year. They said we think that our current players, Josh heart. Brandon Ingram are all Casey p are all going to get better. And we think some of these guys we picked up are going to be able to shoot three's. Rob was on with us at the start of the year. Rob lincoln. He said, I don't think our three point shooting problem is as bad as fans think it is. It turns out it is three. I think they're twenty seventh. Now, maybe twenty eighth in three point shooting. And it's a they acknowledged that the trade deadline when they traded zoo Botts for Mike mascola, and they went out and got Reggie Bullock for spe-. Right because it's been great. Yeah. But moose Qazvin hurt in his defense. But I think the fact that they even did those moves was an acknowledgement that we've gotta give LeBron and these other guys more three point shooters. So when they build this team next to a lot of these guys are on when your contracts in your mind, how important is going out and getting three point shooters paramount. Yeah, I mean, it's paramount has last year was you've got an they thought it was over gonna get playmakers. No. They wanted guys that were tough guys. Right. The that could defend and run and fast break, it was it, was Beasley Rondo in. Stevenson, those were the three on a one year deal, Casey, piano. Neil mcgee's done. What you would y. Some Jan there on on your deal. They picked up in season. You know, that's one thing about I mentioned at the top of the show. A lot of these guys over these last nineteen games. Even if the Lakers don't make the playoffs or auditioning to see whether or not they can hang around next year. And I would think if you're an NBA player you'd wanna play. In LA, you know for the Lakers. I think be part of something. Sure. Is you assume they're going to go out and sign or trade for a big star that they're going to be much better next year, then they are this year. And that's going back to what you and I disagreed about earlier, you think Brandon Ingram playing well, probably make some more tradeable true. It couldn't remember us of remember the Lakers control his rights. So if he continues to do this Twenty-eight a game with these super high shooting percentages, you he's twenty one you don't have to trade them. You can just say, you know, what he figured something out. We're keeping them, but just in you can't talk. But how if New Orleans is going to trade Anthony Davis here? They're not going to do it without Brandon Ingram. And if you give me a choice between Brandon Ingram and Anthony Davis. I'll take Anthony Davis every day of the week and twice on Sunday. Right. But I'm just saying that those me by the way, I'm just saying the Lakers if Ingram can. Continues to play like this the Lakers control him. It's not like when Randall was here, and he could leave and he was a free agent, and he could walk away Ingram's under a rookie deal Casey can walk away. And I would I can't imagine. They would keep Casey P A. Greg says he looked up the free throw stuff. How bad is it? Okay. So since LeBron came back. What's a good a decent the free throw percentage? Seventy five per the number one teams in the NBA shoot. Eight top shoot. Eighty percent Shula Lakers are dead last at sixty eight per site. Take seventy so anywhere seventy five or up is really good. Right. Okay. So since LeBron came back Brandon Ingram is shooting. Seventy six percent from the free throw line. Okay. Kyle Kuzma seventy four point four right about Sifi. So and that's your top three. And then LeBron shooting sixty one percent. Let your top three guys. Don't do them hop. Three. Those are the top three. Yes. That have the most shots taken. Brandon Ingram fifty six or seventy four the Bron James forty three seventy Kaku. Twenty nine of. Thirty nine and javale fifteen of twenty three. So I mean, but he j- avails, obviously, not gonna shoot very, right? So it's not it's the free throw percentages. The free throws are not that bad. It's LeBron the fad what's his Thursday. One sixty one seventy five seventy five for the other two that get there. And by the way, it seems like an Lance tenants. They were alive at the end of the Phoenix game. And LeBron missed those two free throws. They were in it. Well, the the the biggest mistake I saw this weekend. Was the Friday night gaming. It's Milwaukee they were down three with a minute and a half to go in case EP was inbounding the ball, and he had a time out and LeBron was double covered Milwaukee. Put put a full court press on they just not gonna let LeBron get the ball right in Casey. He just tried to throw to him anyway. And Malcolm brogden, stole it and shot at three, and they're all of a sudden instead of down three with a minute and a half to go you're down six game over you know, they've they've had some dumb turnover. That's as Amy cabinets key likes to say. That's an avoidable turnover. Yeah. You know, it it just doesn't mean. Did you get that sound that Adam silver sound? I did it's two minutes and fifteen seconds. No, no, no. You cut it down to just where he's tall come. Yeah. Edit that a little bit there producer guy, two minutes. Fifteen seconds too long. And where's Michael Thompson in the other room? Get Michael I'll ask him. I don't know. He'll do it was not actually not in the other room anymore. Right. Now, I know got it. Mason and Ireland ESPN LA. I what is going on. All right. So I think we've got do we have Michael Thompson? Guess Michael Thompson? Okay. I okay, we're going to have a conversation too. But Michael, welcome. Rosa. Why would you even go there because he says you kicked him off at less? Not keep he's Michael Thompson. You can't hear me. Anyway. All right, walk the walk home. Okay. So Mace great you have the sound bite prepared, right, Michael. And I debated this the other day, and I think you're going to have radically different take than Michael this is Adam silver talking about players in the NBA today hit it, Greg. I think there's a few issues going on one is is a larger societal issue. And I know you have a lot of young people work for you at the obviously our our players are young. We've young people in our office. I think we live in the age of anxiety. I mean, I think it's it's it's I've read studies on this. I think part of it is direct product of social media. Yes. And I think those players were talking about when I meet with them. What strikes me is that? They are truly unhappy. Yeah. This is not some. Like, you know show they're putting on for the media when you get you know, you have relations a lot of players when I'm one on one with a lot of these guys. You know, I think to the outside world, they see the fame the money all the trappings that go with it. They're the best in the world at what they do. You know, they say how is it possible? Like, they could even be complaining, and I I hear this on television all the time. A lot of these young men are genuinely unhappy or Michael you first, what do you think of these players that are genuinely unhappy? Well, like may says a lot of people have mental issues and they do deal with depression. So I don't wanna make light of that. But if someone's not suffering from depression and medically diagnosed as suffering from depression, bipolar, okay? Just because I understand that happens because Kevin Lowe said he had that and Marta rose in two. So I'm not gonna pooh-poohed that's the that's serious stuff. But if you just unhappy because I don't know because somebody's criticizing you, or the you think the works too hard, or the coaches demanding too much for you. Then then quit do something else. And stop you realize how blessed you ought to be in the NBA. This is your been your dream since you were little kids. She just picked up a basketball. Probably you a so blessed you have every material I know material things always make you happy. But you you make so much money compared to the average human being you can take care of your family your extended family. You can set yourself a for life. You can do. Good works with your money. You're playing a game. You supposedly love it is an honor and a privilege not a right to be in the NBA. And you're gonna complain about anything. I don't get that. At all. I understand everybody has bad days. If you don't play. Well, you losing show you get upset ticked off about that all human stand that. But to say you're unhappy because. You're an NBA player because of the expectations that come along with it. I don't get that at all every day. Even when I was exhausted beat up and cream was Elba, me and my face. And I was with the Spurs Blazel be lost ten in a row. I was still saying I'm so thankful to be here. I'm so happy to be here. I'm going to try to make the best of it Mace. What do you think when Adam silver says NBA players are genuinely unhappy? I agree with who with Adam silver. Why are they unhappy if they're not bipolar suffering? There's think there's actually a difference between depression and anxiety yet what he was talking about was an exciting. Right. And here's the thing, Michael. I think that because of and it's not even so much social media because of the internet because of the way we consume information. I think we live in a country and a culture now where everybody is a little unhappy. I think we're all a little less happy because of social media and be and I think that's everybody. I don't think it's just NBA players. I think it's everybody I wanna be like Barkley and stay office social media. That's actually that's actually nation question or today's NBA players capable of staying completely off social media. Klay doesn't do a lot of it. But he does some of. He doesn't pay attention stuff. We we talked Witter account. He is your mic does too. But I follow both of we've talked about this. And clay clay, why are you going to worry about somebody who's sitting at home behind a computer true? Who's never played never done. What you why you care about? I mean, obviously, you don't want people think you're a jerk or your bad human being. But why this guy criticized play who can't pick up a basketball yet? They do. But he said heart. They he says he agrees who said, yeah, you're right. I shouldn't don't we shouldn't pay attention to that stuff. I said I have one of your peers, criticized you publicly or privately you heard that should bother you because that's someone who's been there done. What you're you're doing and can understand what you're going through. But some guy was never played the game. And and why would you let I understand? They have a right to their opinion on how you're playing right. But don't let that get to you. But I think it I think it goes beyond NBA player. And by the way, John I think it Barkley is a brand right, right? Every NBA player. This includes Klay Ireland. Uber brandt. Yep. Yeah. But I don't do a ton of social you. Do you do? I see your tweets I probably tweet once a week. But there's a certain flavor of the John Ireland tweet. Sure, I cool. There's a certain flavor. Michael tweets, more than any you tweet a lot. But you tweet fun stuff positive. It's funny. I'm not gonna rip anybody for the opinions or how they play all someone you look at what we talked about today. We've been critical of LeBron genius. Yeah. I mean, I I've critical of Michael and bite the hand that feeds right? But I mean, but you know, there is constant criticisms a territory turning up and the media which genie complained about it. And I think it's it's fair. The media in the NBA has never been more all consuming than it is right now. Yeah. Every room or every trade demand every criticism, John. We just criticize John Rondo right up shooting but version, but the other stuff John render does is really good right shooting. But my not making them over the last game six in a row. He was Mike K, right? Right. But no matter as Klay Thompson. Here's here's the biggest problem. I think in our culture right now is loneliness people are lonely when you get down to it also end the family mean, no we interface with each other on the computer on via text like weren't we better when we did things as the of course, Michael. And I ride on one of the team buses to the games. And man all those guys are headphones on right? There's no conversation. Two guys talk anymore, and it just all bison their headphones. So the air buds or whatever and like talks that throw quote Manley lives of quiet desperation knows that sake spare. No, Henry, David thoreau's. It's true. It's it's more true now than it's ever been people. Live lives of quiet desperation. There's a loneliness out there. We used to go to the library. Right. Oh, yeah. Or the bookstore. Love that. Now, we have a kindle exactly we we used to go to member human contact. We've lost that cost human con. Right. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Definitely. And I think that's one of the you know, what my and I just like it when we get our house tours. Exactly, it's less. Totally in declined. Was that only thirty percent of Americans go to church. Wow. Really? Yeah. Only thirty percent going to church has not has south has steadily declined as a as a country. It's only thirty percent where we'd better when we when we got. I don't take your church calling. Somebody actually can't wait. When's the last time you were here? That's wherever Michael Beck with. No. But I mean, weren't we better when we all got together on Sundays. You got a great point. And now it's in decline. Yeah. You're right. All those communal space. That's why I like movies so much movies you walk into a theater, and you share a big communal experience. He just words afterwards. You have a common that way, I found this way about concerts. If you go to content that's fun because you're talking to people you're having find your singing, your dancing, doing whatever you wanna do. It's a commune. I remember when Bruce Springsteen open staple center. Oh, yeah. Why ninety nine he walked out, and he looked up into the sweets. And he said, you know, you people in. The sweets. This is supposed to be communal experience the share with others, you're more than welcome to come out of there and everybody like did these big. Yeah. So I so I don't know if I'm necessarily. I I do understand what Adam silver said I understand when you're alone at night on social media and players, they're they're alone. With all these people who are criticizing. They gotta get more self esteem and got it. We'll get more self confidence, and it's not paying attention. What everybody says about Trent? He's arguing with eggs onto. Onto. Exactly, you know, all like my advice to these young guys, not the ones who clinically depressed. I'm not talking about why you about. Why are you still an ordinary guys? We'll have any medical issues. Listen son, count, your blessings realize how blessed you are negative. Lahser turned on a positive attitude is a great way to go about that. Yeah. So you could be living in Ghana in a month. By the way, I've been to Ghana and it's a beautiful. And it was fun. That's right. All right, Michael. I don't understand why Greg banned from the show. Do you know why I guess he said I was out of the welcome me on my my my presence on out. No I wearing out my presence. Because when Michael Thompson comes in. I love Michael I loved the things he has to say doesn't seem like this up. Seem like you love the subjects end up changing into things that we are. We're not talking about says both of you guys. What do you guys are talking about just as us? It turns into topics of the all I wanna know how to talk to your boss. I wonder if the day turns into sure go ahead turns into topics of what the warriors are doing and all NBA teams and all these because I don't think that that's what the what this show topics are normally about we're talking about the Lakers. We're talking about the dodgers. We're talking about things that are all happening within LA, Washington state. Of course, those are. You do fun stuff to bring back. Amanda. All right. Where is she here? She can come switch. Yeah. What would love her to Michael? He's telling into Denzel Washington hunt for Red October. I look for instance, airwaves with you this evening. It's going to be fun. It's a big zoo. Watch out for the zoo zookeepers zoo and fight by the way. Here's your pun. If you want to ask me if any of these games are must win just all of them. I've ever recorded anything if they lose tonight just pull the plug. We'll be five games back because as games game. We will not be method medically eliminated. You know, what they said Lincoln out of the Kamilo Anthony signing thing possibility they ever in it. I was hoping they would do it. No come on. No. Because the way that article reads, it sounds like Carmelo is the one that's made the decision to in six since the also what? But did you read the wochit piece the world's made it sound like Carmelo doesn't wanna come? I don't think that I think he'd come on similar Braga got better. Exactly just sitting. He might say the spark we need. It's either him or play Alice Caruso there. You got great curse Russo. All right, Michael. Thank you will male fellow well-meant fasttrack is next Mason and Ireland ESPN LA.
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"That paint falls off may sell becomes off buddy. Yeah, that that may not be fun for one. When you get home Ramona's revenge. I love it. He does look like the ultimate warrior Sodano show here on ESPN LA Michael Thompson and DeMarco far will be our guest co host today. Jim Lampley who we just discussed will be on it for fifteen, Roy Jones, junior at four, forty five and keys gonna stop by at five because Michaels got a bone to pick with key. So key is going to check in at five. And if you missed our Cannella Alvarez interview from last week, I got a chance to speak with canal. That'll be the last segment of the show today at six forty five to take you into the weekend. So certainly a lot of stuff for you today from a boxing perspective because we got triple g and canal. Michael is going to be very, very pumped to discuss this particular fight DeMarco is in on this fight. I, I actually think that DeMarco this fight needs to be great because I don't know how many other big fights we have left least in the near future for the Casuals. Probably not. Many, there's a couple of heavyweight fights coming up. So I'm John. Joshua's taken on Pevec and I think that's across the pond, but there's some good fights, but for the Casuals the the boxers that everyone knows. Yeah, this is it for a while. So for me for guys that love big fights. I'm hoping for another close fight. Maybe we'll get a third. Here's the thing that the fight that everyone really wants to see in the heavyweight ranks is because everyone is also dying for the heavyweight ranks to matter against big, big way. Yeah, Deontay wilder Anthony, Joshua is the fight that people want, but because Joshua doesn't want right. Well, there's that and then the politics of the different promoters and all the stuff that comes with the nonsense. And it's because like two years basically for us to get that fight. How long did we wait for Packy on Mayweather five years felt like forever. So I think that's part of the look. I love boxing, you seem to love boxing. I know Michael absolutely loves for boxes. So I just feel like I get it strange because there's not one sanctioning body like you have in the NFL or the NBA or any of these major professional sports. Even the you have c. right. They have their own sanguine body, right one champion. Yes. Yeah. So I think that becomes a big problem. There's just too many chefs in the kitchen. You got to parse through at all. I mean, I used to, I used to tell people go by the ring rankings because the ring is pretty much the lineal champion guy who beat the guy who beat the guy. So stay with that, and you'll be pretty close to who the best in the world is. But I mean, there's so many good fighters out there. There's so many good matchup she wanna see Keith Crawford Terence Crawford is a guy. I wanna see fight any Garcia. I want to see him fight. Adrian Brodie. I want to see him fight everybody in the welterweight ranks, but when the promoters get involved and it's all about money, it's all about timing sometime. You don't get the fights you want when you want to. But at some point you'll see them all in the ring against each other. Freddie Prinze junior was in yesterday, another big fight fan, and he was talking about how with boxing is strange, is a sounds it's about building to the fight right sometimes unfortunately, that building can take way too long. They the construction takes a little longer than you think they make you salivate for it. And this is why I always say Dana white has the perfect model for combat sports because these sport will always win. Yeah, the champion doesn't matter. Well, he will always be challenged by somebody as good or better and that belt will change hands more often than not. Well, what I mean by it doesn't matter is that he's gone through a million different stars yet, and eventually they create another star like that because it's like the NFL. Right? The shield is bigger than the parts. Yes, right. Laundry is more important than the player. Yeah. Yeah, no doubt. I mean, but that model will work, but you do run out of stars without Conor McGregor. I mean, you're kinda suffering right now and that's why that guy doesn't go to jail for what he did. That's why he's getting. Back in the cage because they need him so, but boxing's a little bit different. But sometimes and this is one thing Oscar de LA Hoya when he started golden boy promotions. Yeah, it was supposed to be a haven for boxers. It was supposed to be different than Bob Arum different than Bob king. It's our dining. It's the same. It's the same thing over again. He's protecting Cannella. He's making sure his fighter fights who he wants when he wants where he wants and how he wants. It's the same stuff all over again. Boxing is just boxing. Yeah, I think that he just even if you wanted to because everyone else does business that way, it's just hard to try to go against the grain because you're only gonna fight your own guys then if that's the my favorite fighter of all time or not of all time. But right now is Amir Khan, you know why? I love it when that guy gets not cold, right? Yeah. I mean, he's he's great. It's like death by a thousand beast yet, but it only takes wore knock him out. It's great. So if he gets in the ring with Paquito that will be fun for however long it lasts coming up. Next, we're going to talk a lot about the fight. As I mentioned a lot of guests today, Michael is going to join us here at some point. He's he's walking around. We know of Michael's, okay. I saw him. He what he did full the other day. I wanna make sure that you know he didn't fall Savell. Oh, he fell out of that chair. There was on video. It was hilarious. Where did he fall? I just because he hitting that age height, maybe. Okay. Let's be careful as you maybe a little brittle coming up. Next. I want to get into some of the football stuff from this weekend. When do you start the young guy? I think that's an age old question will touch on that next Demarco's year. Michael. Stop by second. It's Saddam Sean, ESPN LA. My goes. Finally, here there we go. May finally here I was hit, but I thought you like to go solo from three to four, Donald Sola, it's all about him. Through long. About you just here's fillers now on him, not to jump in a big boxing weekend. Yeah, guys are huge, boxing fan, you DeMarco s we talked about this. Remember just making shamed me in front of Shane Mosely. I was new that's right to and then almost beat you up for me, help people that fill shelves. Everything else before I before we get back to boxing here and Jim Lampley is gonna stop by at four fifteen, Roy Jones, junior at four, forty, five. So Mike, we can ask him about his confrontation with key this morning. He tried to beat him up. Well, key said he could take him and then so we have some of that audio somewhere. What do we have it? Yeah. So here's what ki- said to Roy Jones this morning. I don't know if you want that smoky. Oh, man. I'm not ROY up, whatever bad, Brooklyn. That's all you're gonna get. We'll get. So Roy's going to be a four, forty, five. And then keys going to join us at five. Listen Roy's only Roy's only like five eight about one hundred sixty six four to fifty to fifty two. He's fifty lower high. No. Hi. Fifty. He looks like a tight, and now we should have a scale challenge. He's my dude, man that guy's not to as much bigger than ROY. First bigger. Yeah, he's must the ROY and I know I don't think it would matter wouldn't matter. I don't think it would matter. Chins light. You saw him go across knocked out, how do you think it would be a Chen shot? Straight. There's that. So we'll have those guys on. And then if you missed the Cannella interview last week, the last segment we'll replay that for you guys my interview with canal Alvarez before the big, listen, these guys generally dislike each other, right? They built up a hatred over the last six or seven months. So tomorrow night DeMarco I don't wanna see. Nobody come on smile and I wanna see high gla Hearns for the first few rounds. That's what I wanna see. Remember that fight. Yeah. Two guys did not like each other and they came out and fought like they didn't like remember what Sugar Ray walked out too, but I know Hagler came out to war. You mean Tommy Hearns. I'm telling you talking about her. That was he came out to war with them. Yeah. Man. I mean greatest three rounds in boxing history. I think you might get something like that. I hope so tomorrow item by it. I think these guys are all saying the stuff just to say it come on jealous Canoas backing up in triple g doesn't know how to do anything else become four, right? So if it's not a war, that means boxing moving. Well, you'll have to listen to what canal had to say at six forty. Five can't wait. You'll see if he'll chicken out, but. Teased about Wendy. You start the young guy now we went through that here right in LA with Jared Goff a couple of years ago when Jeff Fisher was the coach, it's like how many games for you get him in and all that, which you don't go. You mean young quarterback, young young quarterback on the jets, the jets seem to be doing okay, right? But I'm talking about last night's game, so the ravens and the Bengals and I know you will have some thoughts on Jay green later, Michael, but Amar Jackson? Yeah. Clearly, Joe flacco was not happy when they went to Lamar Jackson package deal. Flacco had to stand at wide receiver that'll he looked like he wanted to just be anywhere else that'll be ivory mature Aikman. I would hate that too. Aikman said the same rhythm. He said that they tried to do with him one time and he dismissed it immediately who and who's the quarterback with Aikman. Well, it might have been when he was older as my definitely wasn't Jimmy Johns. We competed with Walsh for a minute. No, but he's talking about like a wildcat to. Okay, right? Yeah. Felix Jones, maybe. Okay. Anyway, maybe navy's, but it definitely wasn't Jimmy Johnson who did with him. So. Lamar Jackson, you love Lamar Jackson game pre game break a playmaker DeMarco. You played in the league for a long time magazine and saw him live? Yes, he's dynamic. What do you do there? How do you handle that situation? I think you're handling it the right way of your Harbaugh. You don't rush it. You still have Joe flacco. He is your quarterback. He won a Super Bowl for you have to respect that, but the kid is climbing. Clearly. He's going to be the future when the Rams were they're playing the Baltimore Ravens in preseason preseason game number one, when they set Lamar Jackson out before RG three, I said that's the future. Eventually maybe at the end of this year, flock goes out Lamar Jackson zen, so don't rush it with him. You don't want a guy like that out there too soon because he's athletic. He puts his body in harm's worked for Michael Vick. Michael Vick was the more sophisticated pasture though he wasn't. I thought I don't think I mean victim past don't get me wrong, but Vic, I and who was in Atlanta, who was the starting quarterback it when Vic came, Chris Chandler got hurt, okay. It's a little bit different than Joe flacco who us to provide the right. Chris. Chandler was also ready at that stage should be more mentor. Joe flacco is not position Chris chandeliers and neither is RG three. I don't think he wants to be a mentor. Well, he was a great mentor and I think RG three kind of knew, okay, it's not going to be me. It's going to be you. Let me help you help. Lamar Jackson? Yeah, he did the right thing there. It is an awkward situation as they flag flag only thirty three. He's still complain a high level he's still can. Right. And it is awkward that you've got this young dynamic player playmaker behind you just waiting in the wings and maybe you're right democracy. We just gotta wait a year the next year. I guess the thing that you really want to try to do in the NFL it's impossible to do is recycle your quarterback every four years. So you don't have to pay him right when you pay him. You kinda hamstring yourself. I was talking about said that before I say, why don't teams do that? Unless you know you've got Aaron Rodgers, Tom Brady Russell Wilson, the guy stay with it, right, right. Because there there's too many guys get paid DeMarco that don't deserve the twenty twenty-five thirty million dollars like I can't justify even Matt Ryan, who I think is a top ten quarterback. I don't know if he's got it like I don't know if he's the guy that I say to myself, man, that guy no matter what is going to bail me out every single time they, you can make the case, but I don't. I don't put him in the upper echelon of top five, six guys that I know can do when his contract is up. What do you do give? I'm going to give you fifteen when no, that's not the market. You can't do that, but it's gonna take a couple of maverick owners to do that. I think. True. Well, I mean, look, I think it's impossible. You can't recycle your quarterback every four years NB successful. Maybe maybe if you built the Baltimore, Ravens defense when you you're not relying on your quarterback so much, possibly, yes, but that's what you wanna do. But at some point, Baltimore is gonna gonna wanna go away from that big contract and not spend as much on the quarterback. So you can start to fill out the rest of your Rosser how how? How reliant are the Rams on the quarterback position? Hold that thought because I want you guys to think about that for a second because they're the way they do business, I think, is a little different than most teams when it comes to that position. I'll explain what I mean in just a second sonata show here on ESPN LA Michael Thompson DeMarco far in with us today, big Boxing Day, Michael, Mike, playing Bob and beyond for Michael? Oh yeah. He's been. I love it like this stuff maybe by this. Yeah. What's up with that? What do you mean? You try to say one hundred? Yeah. You like this type of music. You know what? He's Mike. This is John. I think it's it's the Caribbean boys. I think we lies that what it is. Yeah. What are you just in the hip hop? That's it. Jazz. Moons what Ganic spaniel, pariah. Ken. I just don't get it. You can explain it to me. I don't get into what you need to take him. One of those Miami little ultrafast. That's what you need to do. Closer Vegas as okay, break it down the one word. Just one word I would. I like this music one words live. It makes you feel it's fun. It's dance music. Okay, fair enough. It's it's youthful. Okay. Is youthful. Youthful is a great old tobacco. Tobacco gonna tell you, we want the other than you. I used to watch you play. Your famous athlete, we could Google this. This isn't that black people go to EDM like EDM DeMarco you'd have to be a same. I'm not never mind move on. Yeah, it was interesting. 'cause I had this conversation with Mace and Ramona and Brian about when does music start Morphing into classic because I was listening to care which is like the seventies eighties nineties channel locally here, and they were playing a song from one thousand nine hundred eighty. I promise from when in Rome, right? And I was like, thinking to myself, I was eleven years old. Yeah. Okay. That was eleven years old when that song came up and when I was a kid, the classic hits was the sixties at that, right? So when I in the eighties and nineties, that's what they were playing. So why wouldn't this be classic hits, maybe twenty years, twenty years fifteen to twenty years. Yeah, everything becomes classic. I asked this of my daughter when I'm listening to music. I like from for Myra. Does this sound to you? How does this sound? It sounds pretty dated dad. You know why? What does it just sounds old because they don't play style anymore. Right, right. Is anybody can get up to non just talk. That's all it is wrapping is just talking and he'd like that either. Yes, it is going to be able to carry a tune carry a beat, scene owes. You sound like me with EDM. That's different. That's different. You gotta sing. If you feel that way. Yes, I'm a singer. Let me come on. Let's let's easy. Okay. I said this before DeMarco what is easier to do rap or sing like Marvin Gaye. It depends all come on now. I'd say the same thing to me day depends. Yeah. There are some guys out there that if somebody just put on a beat and they gave you the lyrics, you can wrap it right. You could wrap it when I was in down, they put out they teddy pantograph. Museo cannot sing when I was in Oakland when the rain for Monday night. Obviously, we went to a local freestyle hip hop spot. Right? These guys are making stuff up off off the cuff that's talented town. Yeah, it's like an open mind. Yeah, that's talents, seven, eight minutes long. I know. Yeah, that's. That's more pressing than singing to me really. If you can just come up with rhymes top, you're happier. Don't go in and actually say something not just such a thing before they got there. They had stuff in their head already. Oh, I'm sure they they practiced. Yeah, so it wasn't like they just got up there coldness. Okay. Go, right. I think the one guy that was starting it would give you a topic and they went all was amazing. See, okay. I see what you mean that is skills. See there you go. See you go open your mind to EDM the Marco. I'm trying. I. So we were talking about quarterbacks and young quarterbacks. I look at the Rams and this is what I see. You tell me if I'm crazy DeMarco Michael. I see a team that has a young ascending quarterback, but I don't think they're overly reliant upon him. And this is what I mean by that. They've got a good offensive line of veteran offensive line, particularly the left tackle, right. They've got a unbelievable freak of nature behind him in the backfield got really smart receivers, particularly woods in Cup, and they got looks and cooked, you know, but I don't know him like that. So I, I don't know yet, but I know the other two are for sure. So they've got a lot of stuff going for him, which is the smart way to build a young quarterback. In my opinion, I don't look at that. I'm not trying to make that shot. I'm just saying that it feels like they're not overly reliant upon him. Yeah. I mean, I've heard this before and we've all heard this before going all the way back to Joe Montana. He's a system quarterback. Right? And then you went from him to Steve Young and you didn't look back, so I'm sure that's gonna come up at some point and remember, Sean McVeigh did not draft, Jared Goff, right? He inherited him so he made him better. So at some point, yes, if he does draft a quarterback, if there's another guy you'd like to see run this offense. I'm sure that's going to come up, but Jared Goff is getting better. He's getting better as a player not just within this office. So I think at some point it's going to be just his offense at some point we're going to, we're going to speak less about what Sean McVay is doing and more about what Jared Goff is doing. On the field, like in Green Bay, it was all about Mike McCarthy and Aaron Rodgers now is just air. In Rogers. So at some point I think we'll wind up there with him. Michael, you buy that? Yeah. I mean, right now, if Todd Gurley was you know, ineffective somehow running game was going in the playoff game. Okay. Jarrett the game was on your arm or ski. What's your arm cleared? He your what orm says, okay, you can't say arm. So what Jitka Jared, Goff win a playoff game. Just with his arm this year. It depends on who your plan is. It. Minnesota doesn't matter if you're playing Minnesota. I mean, you're playing in the plans. Green Bay's defense. That's your. Yeah, that's probably the team that he could do it again. If you're playing against Minnesota. I don't know, not Carolina. I don't know how many teams could not Minnesota, Minnesota, right, Philadelphia. It's going to be. So by next year he'll be able to do at Rogers and Brady does with his arm, spas win games and it's starting to happen now. I mean he has more time to me within the offense. He has the right to change place if he doesn't like it. Now you have to go explain it to the coach when you get to the bench. Why'd you check me off? Why'd you shake me off? But he has more Tommy more responsibility offense. And that's only going to grow with experience. You brought up Green Bay and Aaron Rodgers. Who makes the call on who does he make the call? Does Aaron make the call and if he plays this weekend or not? Yes, he does. When he said, I'm going to play then you can't stop them as a head coach now it's it. No. Heck, no. If Aaron Rodgers wants to play, he's gonna play, Tom Brady wants to play. He's going to doctors up to the last day. So good luck. Really? Yes. These are Franch. As quarterbacks. These are the guy minute, wait, I mean, came back last week. These are the guy and people thought he might have been done last week Brady had a cut on his hand, right? If he doesn't want you to see it, you won't. Oh, fine for that. Sure. Good luck. You're gonna find your quarterback or even held out the if if adopted goes to McCarthy's has this, I advise he not play. He's going to damage his his career, maybe even put himself out this year McCarthy's. I'm not one game. I'm not going to risk it. You out. He McCarthy can't do that now. And he can't tell Erin. Doctors told me you're not playing. No, no, go back to Kobe. Kobe wants to play is gonna play. Well, if Kobe says I can go, yeah, he's going to go even if he's compromised. That's just how those guys are. How realize that guys can play through injuries. Ben Rothlisberger place thought the doctors overruled everybody when it comes to your health new some most most of the team, yes. But franchise quarterback quarterback, they draw the line new, absolutely. No Jew play him would if you had the choice, would you play him this? I would. I mean, if he can take the pain, if he can protect himself. Yeah, I don't know if I'd do that. He's just we to eat just did. I mean he did it right after it happened and came back from twenty points and won the game yet, but the Minnesota's better than the bears. Okay. But if you can't protect himself, if he starts to get, you know hit, I can always pull him, but I'm going to start him. You crazy. Like last night again with Cincinnati in Baltimore. Of course, I was watching that beers and Packers game. Just fascinated riveted fascinated, like everybody else, but the beer's. Okay. They built up between nothing lead because Rogers was hurt, but what did they get conservative in the second half when they knew Roger. Is coming back with the miracles that he performed. Why would you be so conservative found that especially not last drive go for? Well, some coaches, especially the new ones. They have a script and when you're up by twenty, the script says, I'm supposed to do this. They just forget about the game in front of them and they start going by this card here. Yeah. Last night with AJ. Green looked like AC green day. AC Green's my boy. I mean he was just the story and they had no answer for him in the second half to two targets. I thought you were talking about how you know maybe he wasn't, you know, like partying and procreate partying. Now I can make you can make a guy disappeared defensively by by wanna know, cover to hike. I can tell you, I've got a safety over the Taliban. I got a guy underneath and the guy running right with them. You can't throw there. So they just couldn't find him yesterday because they chased defense gaming aced. Right. I mean, if I see triple covers your double coverage on my star guy, then you're supposed to go to your opposite read because that's the one on one and that guy over there gets paid too. Yeah. That's just the way it goes. Yeah, I thought I thought the ravens comeback win that game because Cincinnati got so conservative in the second half, Marvin Lewis has nine lives and good for him. Man, he's too right now. They, they may be able to win that division potentially still, it's they've got good talent on that team who else can do better than Marvin Lewis. In that division, you are bumping heads with the Steelers every single year, right? So I mean, if you fire him, do you think you can actually do better? Who can you hire to do better than Marvin Lewis to keep that team Cincinnati, at least competitive in that division? Bobby probably asked fire, Jeff, Fisher JR, but at least marvez been making the playoffs Jeff, didn't make the playoffs. Right. Zillion years that isn't there. Another Sean McVay several staffs. I'm sure there is somewhere, but I think they've all been hired right now. Yeah. Yeah, my buddy Sean McVay. I appreciate you buttering me up your. Yeah. I was buttering him up. What did you say? Well, we were, I asked him one of our poll questions. The other day was can you butter someone up but also be sincere and genuine with your reverence. Okay. And he believes that, no, because the buttering up part makes it a cause a negative connotation. What were you trying to ask? Where were you buttering up to? I don't remember what we were talking about that before. Oh, okay. So then we put it up as a poll. I don't remember why we went down that path, and then we just asked him and he said, wow, that's a really good question. But he kinda thought it out very quickly and that's what he came inciteful. So he and I feel like he and I have have done this enough where even when he was on the morning show that we in the morning show, we definitely used to have a ton of fun with him. So I give it to him a little bit and he gives it back and it's it's fun. So at the end of the interview, that's how he does the interview. Nice. Yeah. Behind closed doors. He's hilarious. Oh, I've actually ran into him at a at the clippers playoff game a couple of years ago. He was a blast. Two. Yeah. Biting you'll go after you. Yeah, he wasn't funny when I mean that's a good example right there. Hey, so Jim Lampley is gonna stop by. We're gonna talk kinetic triple g with the legend Jim Lampley, but this Saturday can Ellen triple g will settle their score in a battle for middle, the middleweight champion of the world at these sold out t mobile arena in Las Vegas. It's that time telling you all week, you can win an autographed, boxing love by both canal and triple g and collar. Seven right. Now we're looking for you at eight, seven, seven, seven, ten ESPN no, come on. We're doing at six o'clock. We'll just teasing it right now. The boxing, we're not doing it right now. We're giving it away in this log our so don't call right now, but listen in the six o'clock hour, but just listen to the Jim lamp. Guess you not ready, you better be ready. We're going to give away that glove, the autographed love canal, and triple j of both signed in the six o'clock hour wanna make wanna make sure that everyone's aware of that. It's these six o'clock hour for the autographed love. And of course you can watch ineligible g live this Saturday at five pm is when the action begins live on pay per view, legendary boxing broadcaster and broadcaster in general. It doesn't have to be just boxing, Jim Lampley. Now joins us here on the Sodano show on ESPN Los Angeles DeMarco far. Michael Thompson, my guest co host today, Jim before we get into the boxing, Steve Mason works at this radio station and told us a story when we told them you were coming on that you worked at Olympics with him and that he was used as a shining example of what to do with one of his bobsled calls. Do you actually recall that or Steve, you know, maybe stretching the truth there. I recall that steep came to Olympic. To say that we worked together is sort of a stretch. I mean, I've I've done radio shows with Stephen, the past. I have been a working partner of Steve's in the past. I have nothing, but the greatest respect for Steve Mason. He is and ultimate professional and a great human being. But I believe I believe at the Olympics that I was studio hosting for the television networks, and I think he was doing radio, but I'm not, yes, one hundred percent certain. So yeah, we were probably in the same general media area, and I always in love, love running into him and dumping them. But I don't recall anything specific about an ethic, Bob sled call. Although I think if there's anyone I know capable of an ethic Bob sled call, it's probably all right. Well, that that will make sure to clip that send that to him on his phone. So we'll just flip the last sport because if not, he, he may not have a great week dead. So there you go. But Cimino I tell them that I want him to have a tremendous weekend and that's pretty much my primary thought fifty, two weekends. Mason. Do you have Lampley you are the best Jim Lampley with this year. So Jim, this particular fight. Michael and DeMarco and I were talking about some of the the barbs that have been tossed and lobbed back and forth, particularly Abel, Sanchez towards canal triple, jeez trainer. Do you buy into the animosity, though? Is is it palpable isn't real. Yeah, they don't like each other and and it's a huge difference from a year ago year ago, it was a sports sedan of civilized sports event between two guys who tended to respect each other, maybe even like each other, and there was nothing in the way of a discordant undercurrent going into the fight this time. They definitely don't like each other and it gets a little worse every day. And I think that both of them will struggle to control their emotional impulses in the ring because I don't think it's necessarily good for either to simply throw caution to the wind end engage in an all out tooth and nail brawl. That's not the way that either one of them really wants to fight. But I do think that it will be a more aggressive more savage affair than was a year ago. And and a lot of that goes to the emotional. Content which is definitely add to build. If this point I don't wanna hear that lamps. After after all this, we've been hearing all this trash talk with from canal, oh, from triple g from Abel, Sanchez from triple from Canellas corner. Listen, man. I'll sit in on my customer Jim Lampley and I want to see round four of hyg learns, are we going to get that? That's what I want to see. Well, you know. You know, we'll never see round for of Hagler her because we'll probably never see the equivalent of the first three rounds of of Hagler Hearns and we might not have seen exactly what we saw in Hagler Hearns had not Tommy broken his right hand with the very first punch that he landed in that fight. But you know things things happen in boxing matches. Hag Hearns wasn't supposed to go that way. It went that way for a variety of of different reasons. This fight, you know, I believe is going to be a very aggressive give and take slugging match in the sense that the guy lands the most power punches is is going to win the fight, but could it become good to kind of tactical boxing match could could accommodate scratch and sniff affair between a counterpuncher hiding from big punches along the ropes. And another guy who's mostly interested in landing. His jab because it's his most dependable and defected clients point in his career. It could it. You know there, there are a lot of ways I can go, and and I think that one of the things that bothers triple gene and which helped to contribute to setting up the draw last year, is that even cripple g. while most server spelt that he did, he didn't win it in the role of triple d. he didn't go in and portrayed the full scale destroy that. The public had been told that he was he wound up, David can Alvarez somewhat the way he thought they let me controlling with the jab and using power punches sparingly here and there, but being careful not to expose himself to counterpunching risk. And if he does that again tomorrow night, he's opening the door for canal, oh, to do better than draw and actually beat him. I think that cannot he has to be more aggressive and has to go in and ports. Betray the role of triple g tomorrow night. I'm just not sure that at age thirty six approaching thirty seven. It's still in him to do that. It's on him to prove that he's still got enough of the old triple g to be able to put it on Cannella one last time. Jim look, I have to be honest, I go on boxing websites all the time, and I read the comments sections and it's amazing to me. And I heard Bernard Hopkins say this about triple g and Marvin Hagler. Let mentioning those two in the same breath is disrespectful. Some people don't even have triple g as a top twenty greatest middleweight of all time. Where do you have in ranked? Where do you see triple g that pure prejudice against eastern European fighter and eastern European fighters still struggle to get that respect at the level at which they deserve it from Arab American audiences. Now, maybe Lama Kinkel is going to be the person who breaks that mold. But to this day ill only been one Martina Navratilova and there, and there hasn't been a Martina Navratilova in boxing. And, and by that, I need an eastern European athletes who gets respected for exactly who they are and how good they are without the taint of being from eastern Europe and anybody who says Gennady is not a top five all time. Middleweight is during the he has the highest knockout percentage of any middleweight champion ever. He has twenty some odd consecutive title defences regardless of whether you want to call that the equal of what Hopkins did and there are technicalities involved. It's still means that he's been in that position for a long time. He's the longest reigning titleholder in the air sport of boxing at this moment to say that he is not a fighter with may, legitimate historic impact is simply ignorant and and anybody who says that doesn't know what they're talking about. On the other hand, it's extremely difficult to do these long term historical comparisons. How can you really say whether you think ATI love can is better than Stanley kessel? You know, there's no. There's no personal live who watched Stanley kessel fight or who can say that with any clarity or precision whatsoever. I think the top four middleweights of all time are Stanley catcher Carlos Monzon, marvelous, Marvin Hagler, and Gennady glove can if glove can wants to be seen as the very best of them in needs to knock out tomorrow night, if he wins without a knockout, he's still one of the top middleweights of all time. If you lose tomorrow night, he loses a lot because his legacy depends on being able to win this fight. He does not have another real signature win on his resume. Jim Lampley joins us year on ESPN LA and this show Michael Thompson DeMarco far with us here as well. I actually spoke to Cannella recently and I had him on the show and he said that he said he needs me without me. He doesn't have anyone to fight. So I'll ask you this. Obviously, we have to go through Saturday night, but in the aftermath, don't they both. Each other because what's what would be next for Cannella even well Kello you know, he's only twenty eight or twenty nine years old. And even though he's had a lot of professional fights at the fairly typical Mexican career, the pile up the numbers and have a lot of fights along the way. And you know, people come along, you can't ignore the guy who is in the next to last fight on the card twenty one year, old hundred fifty, four pounds star hanging yet. He's fighting as June plate right now. It's going to be very long before he moves up to hundred sixty. If the top middleweight at the moment win Mundi becomes a full fledged. Middleweight is a canal Alvarez. That's Mexican Mexican. That's Pereira versus Morales that's Marquez versus Barreira and Morales that's Julio Cesar Chavez against any of the other Mexicans that he thought that's a. That's a potential tremendous rivalry. We could ultimately see three fights. Between Heine Mongia and can leverage if if mcgeer continues to develop the way that he has and if you haven't seen him, you absolutely have to see the next to the last fight on the card. This is exciting fighter as there isn't a sport bike. Now, thirty five zero with thirty knockouts fighting for the fifth time this year he he is an absolutely spectacular talent, although high risk, not a defender is offense as defense if in there to reprise to provide scorched-earth, everybody should want to see a fighter like that against Cannella Alvarez. It's a natural matchup between into counterpuncher. So yes, there's plenty left for Cannella Alvarez in his career and it's just ninety via, but he's correct. Cannot love can need him and he needs a win over can ELO Alvarez, put the capper on his great career. And frankly, if I were advising, Idaho Lufkin, I'm not sure this is what happens. But if he wins a big win tomorrow night, a knockout or a stirring decision. And he looks good doing it retire. You don't make a greater statement that that you can't. You can't take yourself to any higher level as a middleweight boxer, what do you have a chief if you beat can l. o. Alvarez tomorrow night and for our has his career can't sustain a loss, particularly against the fighter of glove, kipnes reputation, and there's a lot that he can still do with the rest of his boxing career. If he wins, he's he's back in in the fight to to become the number one pound for pound fighter in boxing, he's back in that discussion if he can beat glove, can tomorrow and Jim Lampley witless the interaction, the body language, slight today the way in between the two fighters could you, could you tell a friction between them? I was mired in other business, and I did not go to the way in. I have not had a chance to see exactly what went down between them. I will say that they both looked physically spectacular on the scale. I saw some video can ELO in particular is built like the proverbial brick house and. And and Ganapati looks lean and muscular and athletic as always it's interesting punchers aren't usually the guys with the black granite by Cannella was the one with the block of granite by you're not even more of a swimmer type muscular Bill. Those are punchers punters have flexible muscles that respond to stimulus. They don't usually have that buffed outlook that can l. o. has Jim Lampley will be on the coal Cannella triple g Saturday. The coverage begins tomorrow at five o'clock from the t mobile arena in Las Vegas, Jim, a pleasure. Thank you so much for the time I guarantee you one thing. They didn't give each other flowers at the way. Good. I wanna do. Hi, Jim. Thanks again, defeating animosity tomorrow night, and I hope you guys enjoy it. Thank you, sir. Take care. There is Jim Lampley with Jim, Jim call me ignorant because I, you know, triple g get beat me up. I understand that and he might be able to beat up DeMarco. But as far as the middleweight ranks in history. He's on top five, we we can. We can discuss it. You know, we can discuss you guys. I've seen them all we can discuss it on the other side coming up. Next speaking again old, Michael, there's a way to help you get smarter even at your age, I'll tell you what that is everything in just a second. I got a question for you guys. Michael is showing DeMarco his picture from when he was floating and fit. Laugher that you will never get back to this. How great you look though? Yes, we we looked up your age. I hope I look as thirty three years of age in the best shape of my life. I was telling my son is this again. This is supposed to look sending me an athlete. You were thirty three thirty three. And where are you in the Bahamas you're in the Bahamas snorkeling. Were you a champion by this day? Yeah, we just coming off a champion coming off a champion shell. You had fun there. My wife then, but I had phone, did it modestly nice. I was I used to do. We used to have three and a half. Oh, I don't know how we did this tomorrow. When I think back on those days when you you and your tiptop shape, right? We'll ever get like that. Again. I was practicing three and a half hours from nine thirty to twelve thirty with Pat Riley. Sometimes one at from there, I would go over two goals gym in Venice and lift weights with two hours. I don't know how I did that for you of a road for you, but I try to tell it to my son's athletes citizen what you gotta do you wanna stick around for the late thirties, they just laughing. The call me an old man show. Show play that again. We were playing the guns n. roses version of live and let die. Okay. So when I was driving in this afternoon, I heard on one of the local radio stations. Paul McCartney's version of live and let die. Yeah. Okay. Now which one would you be more prone to listen to him by the way, Roy Jones junior is going to join us in ten minutes. Nice. Was he looking for key? He might be. He's gonna stop by at fi- I like guns and roses version better. I do too to Kearney's to bubble gummy into yesterday, Whitney Houston, and I'm every woman that's actually shock Akon song. Right? That's right. But I like Whitney's better. You do? Yeah, I do. Yeah. And the Fujii's here. Here's McCartney. Oh, see that. That's not my ehre. Yeah. Yeah. The guns and roses one to this era. So I'm curious as to why that's why I'm I'm interested your thoughts. So you said guns and really much more soulful in Paul McCartney you got no soul. Yeah, that's right. Loud the soul with John Lennon real hater funches set in my ear. No, Michael Izabela. Hey, are you? Okay? I like the Beatles Lonzo my favorite beetle hater said Paul McCartney's got no soul at the John Lennon who was a cool guy. He was the cool air and George Harrison because Harrison said everyone knows better quite he was the mysterious one. This sounds like the cover. That's funny vis when sounds like the cover to me. No offense to Beatle fans. Yeah, second greatest rock. I mean a Beatles. A more pop rock Rolling Stones rock. That's rock and rule. All right. Well, I'm going to put up a poll and see what the people think. Guns n. roses was Harrison guitarist, Harrison nurture, John Lennon. John Lennon was lead guitarist, bass, so Lennon or slash not the bass base bids McCarthy, Oklahoma. That's right. Yeah. Okay. Yeah, yeah. McCartney was the base you face plate, right? Yeah. Show you don't think triple a top five note of all time. No, I'm all wet middleweights and that I seen over the years, somebody, boxing addiction of session, let you DeMarco my top five middleweights I have ranked as Lampley was talking about them. These are the guys if you put them in a ring, once sixty to face a triple g they would they would school him. They would give him a box of on like a sparring partner, number one, Marvin Hagler. Okay. Okay, but but he they had him ahead of, yeah, number two at middleweight I give me Ray Leonard over trilogy any Dan wing Sugar Ray now. I don't handle at middleweight moon. You sort of he's sort of priming. Dave. He gave high glow. I did. Number three calls. Monzon Argentinian catch. He mentioned four at one hundred sixty pounds Hearns versus triple j. Me Tommy Hearns any day of the week and then the five, John the beast Mugabe okay. I like him. You remember him. Ray Leonard guy, but I want sixty Rakhine let Ray could fight a one sixty. I mean that feels like he fought one sixty late. Yeah, destroyed her up. Started as the flyweight ended up as a welterweight. You can move up guys just the move up and down on the time back in the old days when it had only eighth divisions, eight divisions in Henry Armstrong, went from lightweight, the welterweight the men. Wait the the hard way then have junior this junior and senior this junior this. So don't give me stuff by these fighters today. Please, they got they got twenty five different belts because every everything's like two pounds difference between one way class in another. So speaking of the fight, Roy Jones junior is gonna join us next year. That's another one asked me to beat up in in a few of my said that. So he was on this morning with the morning show, and this is how key greeted him. I wanna get into ring which you man. By the way, if you want that smokey, what ROY. Oh, man. I'm not ROY up. Whatever. Let's have bad breath because that's the only you'll get. But I forgot why Jones was a middleweight. I one point. Yes, that's always heavy. He'd beat up. Bernard Hopkins middleweight. I was gonna say, what about triple g and Bernard Hopkins? That's a good one. I was how I would probably take triple j me too because I was kinda slick and tried this lull you to sleep. I think be hop might view some of that aggressive, shall we have love Roy Jones on then we'll have key at five. Nice. And when we have key, we can ask him why USC had such a big letdown last week, Mike, because I know you wanna ask him that particularly and DeMarco wants to rub it in because washing, no, I already own dinner. No, you don't want to bet on Texas and you know. So we'll talk to key about all that stuff including the Rams to. But Roy Jones junior is gonna stop by in a second, but I might go, I mentioned that even you in your older age, you can get smarter because they say studies show here the European social psychological journal says that if you taught to yourself, it will make you smart that all the time I do to talk to yourself. Everybody does. Do you believe that you believe everyone talks themselves? I don't believe that. I think everybody does when is sitting down grumbling out loud is what I'm saying. He likes sitting having a conversation like saying like, oh, I can't believe I did this right or always like you like you walk into room. There's no one else you just say to yourself. Why did I walk in Israel? I need this. You have hold on conversation. So I've done that. You know, talking about boy, I show which I wish I would have done this or done that. Sure. We've all done something like that. Maybe not like twenty thirty minutes, but you know, little census here and there we all do that. From time all the time. My wife just said, I thought you were talking trash about me. No, I'm just talking. I'm talking out loud trying to figure things out. I talk a lot out loud too. I just I thought I was weird. Apparently not. That's why does it you're in. You guys talk out loud to yourself sometimes all the time. Yeah, sure. When I'm playing video games. Gulf brawny. Should I every two foot putt, Josh heart, and Kyle coups when all these guys fortnight? Should I get into fortnight? Unfortunately, I think you're too busy especially with the baby on the way. Yeah, it's not happy. The baby could be here. Any sort of power. Shooting in killing people. Yeah, it's Freddie explained that it's kind of like a like a video game version of hunger games basically. Yeah. So what it is it's like literally drops like one hundred players into a single arena, and they all just fight it out to see win. One is left stand with weapons. Yes, weapons. And and you can also build things and structures while that's going on here. Fight builders. Yeah. Yeah. It's like Collor duties slash mind, good. Each other. Of America today. Right? Mass murder. Pretty old, pacman sensitize to. Should we bring back golden pack and keep up with these violent games, teach kids out of kill each other high goodness. Which version of living lead dies better. Paul McCartney guns and roses. The poll is up your vote at Sodano ESPN EDA ESPN very close right now. Fifty one percent going with McCartney really fifty one and we all went with guns and roses, fifty. One percent. You can vote at Sodano ESPN on Twitter. So we're going to do a couple of things here. We're going to break his Roy Jones. Junior is gonna stop by. I got to remind you that in the six o'clock hour, we're going to give you a chance to win this Cannella triple g autograph glove, this hour to do it. I'm gonna give it away on Instagram. Okay. So I have. I'm going to look to see right now how many followers. I have an Instagram. I have only one thousand nine hundred dollars. So if you are once I'm looking at the last person that I have, there's name. So basically if you follow me on Instagram, George, Sodano ESPN, look for the little blue checkmark. I will pick one person at some point in the six o'clock hour to give away the the boxing love to, and then I will send you. Someone will send you a direct message. She got to follow me at ESPN Los Angeles. How about that? So follow me at George Sodano ESPN and ESPN Los Angeles, and that way I'm doing right now. We will figure it out. Looking DeMarco was trying to scuttle it. Can I get the glow? I don't believe you can win, actually. So follow me on Instagram at George with j. George Sodano ESPN look for the blue checkmark. She you get the right person. So we'll do that. Roy Jones junior stops by next key follows that it's the Sodano show DeMarco far. Michael Thompson hanging out on.
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"And if you wonder why you're only hearing one growl. That's why Michael Thompson, you guys a stupid. They're exactly or I thought you were going to say brothers don't growl. We don't do. Cool agrout. Michael Thompson information, I'm John Ireland. And let's get right on this. Let's get a black funds right on it over the weekend since we last got after it. Yeah. That's what George I say. Oh, yeah. But what everybody's curious about is. Why did the Lakers higher Frank Vogel? And they've hired him as their next head coach is reportedly gonna sign a three year deal, and Jason Kidd is coming with him as an assistant. So we're gonna be ridiculously honest today. We're just going to open the honesty volt. So all we always. No, no, no. We make stuff of all the time. But not today the second this happened. Greg knew that you and I were scheduled to host the show today, and Greg you sent me a text within five minutes saying, we gotta get another voice in there. Right. Is that because you were worried about Michael and I- homering it up too much absolutely one hundred percent insulted. I'm offended. You know, your whole Mark. But it's a legitimate concern. We'd both work for the Lakers. So what did you think of the vocal higher? I it's doesn't excite me. At all. I mean, it's not I'm not excited. I'm not disappointed. He just kind of guys basically saying you fired Luke to bring in Vogel. They're like the same guy. All right, and Michael we've got reaction from all over the place, but we consider ourselves. And it's very fortunate that Mason is not here because you'll Mason will never take calls because he loves Aaron himself. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. But today, we will we will let you react to this higher. Eight seven seven seven ten ESPN eight seven seven seven ten ESPN. And let me say this. I'm willing to give anybody a chance, right? I was working for UCLA when they hired Bob Toledo in Greg. Remember everybody hated that off ob- Toledo what they hired Bob. What who is Bob Toledo, and he turned out to be like a video game coach he was fantastic offensive mastermind. We ended up averaging fifty points game. And it was great. When you hired peo- terrorists. The best example. Okay. They offered the job first Denic Dennis Ericsson said no, then they offered it to Mike Riley said no the to peak care who's coming off of back toback firings in the NFL. Aired by the jets fire by the patriots. And then USC hires and USC fans were furious xactly, Mr. dodger over there when they hired Dave Roberts. I remember you go, and who did we'll we'll I remember what I said. I said dodgers are not a starter job. Dave Roberts has never been a manager. You don't start with the dodgers Leonard manage the Padres of the royals of the Rockies. And then income does Dave Roberts has been through. So that's in the Munich chance. But Michael when you and I said when the Laker announcer say people say, well, John, Michael, they'll never criticize Lakers. They'll never say anything bad. All right. So in the interest of giving you the full story. Here's Dave mcmanamon on sportscenter talking about the dynamic now that Frank Vogel is going to be the head coach. Lebron is obviously going to be the star player and Jason Kidd, a hall of Famer is going to be an assistant. Here's mcmenamin labata professional, of course, then he's going to come in and assess the situation when the time is right. Let the dust settle with the entire coaching staff looks like and go from there. The problem is with LeBron as we all know, sometimes the perception becomes stronger than the reality of things and with the reputation that LeBron has already and the reputation that Jason Kidd has already what happens if the cameras catch LeBron having a conversation with his assistant coach Jason Kidd during a heated moment of the game. That's a normal occurrence. But guess what? Those are the type of things that begin as a little bit of kindling that can turn into a raging wildfire. When people can. Sydor the coaching stability of Frank Volvo. Even though he is technically the head coach in this situation. Michael will come in on that that that there's a chance here. The vice president is the bigger name on the ticket and the president media member overblown, everything sky's falling something like that. Listen if out played in the league, and if I had an assistant coach on the bench, the staff status on a statue of Jason Kidd. Let's see in my day that coach would Bobby been someone like a wall Frazier. So somebody hyphen Z Cousy somebody like that Gail Goodrich wanna ask axiom as we say in a hood. I'm gonna ask them what he think. Hey, caves point is the first time the Lakers had a four game losing streak or people say make kid the head coach. No, no. I don't think that's going to happen because kids going to be like a co coach. Because remember the Lakers said it's not going to be a head assistant coach or anything. Everybody's going to be sort of equal footing and find Vogel understands that this Jason Kidd hall of Famer. What a smartest player to ever play the game. Okay. Didn't wanna champ ship? Brooklyn. He was pretty decent. Milwaukee number walkie has taken. He kind of like was the Mark Jackson of Milwaukee. And then bring in buttonholes in Milwaukee goes to another level. But he got things started in the walkie with the Greek freak spot. Jason Kidd's been smart had been a floor leader. He's an NBA champion hall of Famer. Obviously the man knows basketball. He's while the all time great players in this lead us team has ever seen. So if LeBron James and the players want to go to Jason Kidd, doing a game and access opinion on uncertain game situations this nothing wrong with that. You'd be an idiot as a player if you didn't kid Brian win. Her says kid as in assistant is not good for Vogel. Here's Windhorst in a vacuum. It it it. It looks like a terrible way to construct the coaching staff. You are building. You are building in a scenario where the player can go to the assistant coach who has going to have a lot more clout than the head coach. It's never the way you'd wanna you'd wanna build a staff that remains. Mystery to me why the Lakers field that this way is best, you know? But I I also think you know, Frank Vogel has proven he's coach in the NBA. I just think they're they're putting waits around his ankles right now at the way, they decide to do this see that's the thing too. If you're from Vogel's point of view, he has to swallow his ego. He has subjugate his ego. And understand that this is Jason freaking kid this guy from from college or some some analytical guy who'd never played this highest level. Okay. So I'm gonna lead on Jason Kidd to if I'm buying vogue on thing. I'm gonna lean on him to I'm going to accent his opinion. Obviously, he knows probably more basketball and Frank Vogel because he played and world championship level an Olympic level. And so Frank Vogel has to understand it. Yeah. I've got this on my bench. But my goodness. What is the conference in this game? I can't even imagine. And as far as coaching say resumes. The kind of equal right? Well, Vogel had Jason has never had the success that Vogel had Indiana Vogel. It Indiana was excellent now vote Vogel in Orlando was not. Good. I I kinda throw Orlando out because the ownership situation was bad and you had the same same in Orlando make the playoffs this year with the same players. There's here's Jalen rose on the Vogel higher. Frank Vogel is a respected coach in is Lee. And I know that is probably not the big name splash higher. That franchise like the Los Angeles Lakers fans are used to. But he's a really good coat and Jason Kidd being on his staff does make the squad better. But the optics of this look unusual based on how it was done. See? But if I'm a coach, I was coaching. I had a system coach my staff who accomplish what Jason Kidd's accomplish in in the in the league and has the history that he has I would ask him. I would say what do you think? I wouldn't think I'm so high and mighty that. I'm not gonna listen to a hall of Famer Jason kit. You got to understand that? And and then less than your ego to be willing to take advice. That's why you have a system coaches. And if you've got a guy, Jason Kidd or a say hall of Famer on the bench Kareem Abdul-Jabbar you ask them. Hey, what are you? Who wouldn't do that? Stephen a Smith says that kit will be the head coach sooner rather than later Vogel is respected. Make no mistake about coach ten years in Indiana. The five of the last six years he made the postseason including four straight years two consecutive trips to the Eastern Conference finals the man can't coach, but it's not about that. He's not a name with sizzle. And we all get that. But here's the biggest she's not going to be able to sell him because he's not expected to be the coach long-term for the Los Angeles Lakers. There's a reason why whether it was Monty Williams, whether it was tied Lou or anybody else the caveat was that you had to accept Jason Kidd on your squad as a developmental coach. It was incredibly imperative to the Los Angeles Lakers that took place. So one would ask the question. Why not just hi, Jason Kidd as you head coach. Well, it's very very simple. He has are relatively uncomfortable. Pass one involved. A message violence, obviously it landed up in the divorce there. Was entire driving while intoxicated charge that he had to deal with as well, not to mention the fact that whether it was in Brooklyn, Milwaukee he gave the impression that he wanted more than just head coaching responsibilities. He wanted to run the show. And so as a result of that it was a struggle for him to get back into the league in a head coaching spot. But for right now, Frank Vogel is the state pick Jason Kidd on his bench, and you can expect to be the next head coach for the Los Angeles Lakers within two, you know, that's wrong. If it the Lakers states of five hundred. Yeah. But if they become a playoff team, which we expect and they're in the playoffs and illegitimate playoff team Frank Vogel. Be fun. All right. Gregg in particular has a problem with what Stephen ace said about kids background Greg wouldn't hired him. We'll get to that. And your phone calls next. Eight seven seven seven ten ESPN eight seven seven seven ten three seven seven six. Here's my take on this. I'll give. Nobody chance I don't know. What's going to work? It's not gonna work, and maybe this works, but I have trouble criticizing it before it actually happened. Exactly. And maybe I'm being naive. Maybe that does make me a house, man. Oh, we gotta wait and see. I plays out. You're right. And I think tight Lou made a mistake. And I'll tell you what it is coming up next. Michael Thompson information, I'm John Ireland Mason in Ireland ESPN LA Mason and Ireland show Michael Thompson is in for Macy's. And we're taking your phone calls asking about the hiring of Frank Vogel guy. So good with Donna wrote a song about what vogue? So everybody all Laker fans law got to come to the renew and vogue, Greg. You said you would not have hired Jason Kidd under any condition. Why I would not. And I think a lot of it has to do with who he is as a person. And there's a lot of articles that are out there all talking about everything that he's done in his passan's not just as coaching record. It's his criminal past where he said, D wise say Mike buttonholes who's going to be coach of the year headed DUI. Okay. I can get I can get around. And I understand. I mean, it's not a good thing. But still on his however, the domestic violence issue that he has a much bigger. Okay. But he had it as a player. I don't doesn't make you a doesn't make you any less of a person give. No, it's not one time. What if he's changed his ways people people can't change society? The reason I bring it up is that he was a players at the Lakers of supported players in the past with that type of stuff. So it'd be hard for them to say, we're not gonna do it. You don't have to hire that person. Though, you don't have to hire the person that has multiple when he was back in two thousand one he admitted to it. He said, yes, I did it and all he had to do was pay a two hundred dollar fine. And then later on in two thousand seven there was even more that came out talking about how Jumana has wife was talking more about how he got hit by things like rocks. Okay. Cookies and kicked her in the stomach while she was pregnant, right? And just like all these none of the none of it looks good. But I'm just saying he got hired by both the nets and the bucks that does after that. After these incidences, and he had nothing popped up. Now, he had some other stuff Papa he got fired from both. But that's just the loss of regular Voss. Let's think about where we are in as a society right now. And it's a good thing that we're at this point where we are taking domestic violence much more serious than we really ever have in the past and now to have owners, and I mean, I hate to put it this way. But have Jeanie Buss who is a female owner. Hiring a domestic abuser. A multiple time domestic looks bad. You heard Stephen say he thinks even thinks that's the reason. He didn't get the head coaching job. Right. That's the line. She wouldn't cross. Okay. But you can hire on his as an assistant head coach that's going to eventually as Stephen A just said is going to be the head coach in two years to Michael's point. The fact that he is already been the head coach of the bucks in the nets may have indicated that he changed his ways. And maybe they'll come out and address some of this stuff. You know, the press conference thing isn't changing. Well, the press conference is going to be fascinating. Who's on the days? Do they put Vogel and kid? No is rob up there. Rob will be Vogel Vogel. Who gets the first question, Jim hill. I know. But what does he asked Raja? Yes. Toronto Vogel mogul. We'll go sees the star of the show that day because he's the head coach. All right. Let's go to Louis in Valencia. Hey, Louis, you're on ESPN LA. Hi, louis. This is a dumpster fire. So far from Dr buses dream turn into his nightmares. Like, given a Smith is right. He's going to be out of here in two years. You don't know that blue Louis are you a Lakers fan? Yes. I am. Okay. So why not give it a chance to see? What happens rather than assume? It's going to be awful because it's not sexy. This is not this early in the same big that you would make it. How's that working out for them? They're like ten miles from each other. And they they make the same mistake, and John you can't say that. This is Dave Roberts. You know? First time first time coaching the dodgers are so star studied Greg could manage them to the world. I don't take some great good Pedro buys in. Association. You know? But whatever happened to Mark Jackson like what happened. Did they interview Mark Nova Lewis? Why do you think that why do you think that no team has hired? Mark Jackson since he left the warriors because he's difficult with front ups right difficult with everybody except the players this reputation. But my thanks for the call Michael you think I mentioned the day when you weren't here. You think that if Mark got another chance he would learn from? Yeah. He would learn from that that you can't alienate the front office or the ownership group. So I think he will learn that was a mistake. He menu like them, right? I like him his players like I say Steph and Klay loved him as swear by them. And they still love him today. All right. Let's go to Ryan in Northridge. Hey, Ryan, you're on ESPN LA. Hi, john. How's it going, man? Good again. Hey, so the reason why I think Frank Volvo is going to be a good higher. The Lakers is because he's fills a void that the Lakers have. And and that's defense. I think he's talked great defensive schemes in the past. I think Jason Kidd has played for great defensive teams in the past. So that's one thing for them to be successful basketball team this year. I think two things happen. One thing Katie needs to leave Golden State, and we need to sign either any a or b list free agent things like is going to be just fun. It'd be with you. I think. Ageless freedom. You know, who they are one of them. And I think with the improvement of the young guys they haven't proven to health Brandon Ingram. I think this team can be a playoff team mix you they're not there's to be a lot of discipline. Go ahead. Ryan I also in and then you fill in a couple of shooters here there. I think JJ Rex. But great targets Lakers to go after this year. I think like, you know, you get a guy like that time to one year deal. COO Joe's with extra money. We may or may not have I think I think that's the rest of success. But also kid you leaving to leave Golden State though. All right. Thanks. All right. Thanks for the phone call. I I actually think Michael I tend to look at these things. So to you as glass half full rather than glass half empty to be patient. We got to see how it plays out before we say it's over a dumpster fire. We gotta wait and see that isn't yet. You know? Here's Chris in LA. Hey, Chris, you're ESPN LA. Hi, hey, guys. First of all I ever say the Greg point if we left it up to Greg. You know, he probably would have traded Kobe or not refined him after this incident of you know, we do forgive in this country. But anyway, my point was it's not unusual for 'em to have a former head coach on their roster. That happens on time my brat Mike rounds with current nam says anything about that. You said it best. My, you know, if you're smart great leader you want to surrounded by people who can add to that. And by their ex right in there and their knowledge. So I think it's great that will be part of. Of vocals coaching staff. If and utilize all the information has a player, and whatever he has a coat, but again, you can't be threatened by that smart leaders are not threatened by people around them. People. Overlooking Greg is LeBron James has a lot of respect. But Jason they were teammates on team USA. Lebron respects him as a player in the leader of the champion. So that helps from abroad to go ahead, Greg. I was gonna say nobody is denying anything. He did as a player or even what he'd just the fact of the matter is what he has done is. I'm not saying give him a death since I'm not saying that he can't ever do anything. But in your out. No, you you're just saying you wouldn't hire. No, I wouldn't also not in the NBA like go to job somewhere else, you go be was rumored as as a candidate for the cow job. Here's Windhorst talking about you know, that caller Chris mentioned LeBron and how he's sees these coaching hires. Here's Windhorst with more on that. It's hard to earn. The bronze respect as a coach, you really need to have it when you walk in the room, and you know, to do that you probably have to a been a great player in the league that he respect or have been really successful as head coach. Has one something where you instantaneously gonna have his respect Frank Vogel. Even though I think he's an effective coach is not going to have that. So he is going to have a harder time, then I think from day one then a coach Tyron Lou or Jason Kidd would have had. There's two kinds of assistant coaches in the league ones will challenge the head coach in one text winter Phil giant one once that will just somebody day Miller. He's head coach said the only job of assistant coaches trying keep the head coach from getting fired, but they're working traumas Riley. There's a lot of do that. If I was in assistant. I would just tell you what I think is take it or leave it. Yes, now, there are other people that won't challenge the head coach at all. Because they you know, they wanna give the previous call us. This. You got to be secure enough in your and yourself to build to accept advice from great of legendary player who's been there done that who's who's accomplished so much in the game. And if if your ego is if you're that paranoid or that. Insecure that you can't take advice from your assistant coaches. Don't don't be a head coach. Okay. As I mentioned, I think Tyler made made a mistake in this whole process will tell you what that is next in more of your phone calls. We'll get as many of you as we can in here today, which I know Greg loves eight seven seven seven ten years PIN, eight seven seven seven ten three seven seven six your opportunity to react to Frank Vogel. Michael. And I always give stuff like this chance we've seen crazier hires before. But we know what you're saying. Oh, you guys worked for the Lakers as so what do you think? We'll let you react next. Mason in Ireland, Michael information, SPN LA Mason in Ireland show. Michael Thompson sitting in for maize Ramona Shelburne is gonna sit in with us starting in about fifteen minutes what she got more gossip that. And a Greg of as, you know, Greg does not want you on the air in any way, shape or form. And and he wants a non Laker employee on the air today. So he doesn't think he his bullet. He does. Yes. I do. A couple of homes right now. Absolutely. Chance. Peace a chance all about everything about Lakers, give them a chain. But would that's why wouldn't we say you? You change it. We're not. We don't have the the there are things our to go back and higher. We don't go, Greg. We can't walk in and say no take back that Frank Vogel higher. We have to see how it plays, of course. But you can also be cry. Like, if you're not an applicable mystique was here, he would be critical of this. Because of in have reasons behind why he was critical don't criticize your have of it as he was the third choice, obviously behind Liu and modern camp. So that brings it takes me at this point. I wanted to make title. All right. I completely see that tied. Lou feels disrespected every other coach getting hired money. Williams, Luke Walton John beeline today got hard code five us five years. Five years. Five years. It is for lack of a better word the standard that guys are being offered and the Lakers because they're the Lakers. Apparently think will we don't have to offer that this is a uniquely great job. We are offering three years and that also ties the coach to the remaining three years on lebrons contract. If so many state this I if I was the Lakers, and I really wanted tied. Lou offered him the five years. But having said that if I'm tied Lou. And you told me if I'm crazy if I'm tied Lou, I take I one time I took a TV sportscaster job in San Diego. And they offered me three years at a terrible rate. I was making money, and they said take it or leave it, and I was living in Texas. And I grew up in southern California. I said, well, I'll take it. And I knew was terrible deal. And my my new stricter at the time who couldn't control it. It was going on above his head says this what you do shoved into drawer. Forget about it work really hard for three years and make it so difficult for them. Not to resign. You at the end of three years that you control the rate and he was one hundred percent, right. And when when three Emmys for best sports gas, I went to the table three years later with a job offer in Detroit. And I said here's what I want. If not I'm going to Detroit, you guys let me know how you wanna play it. And I got my salary more than doubled. And I was able to make it for it. I think that's what tied Lucia done. I think Tyler should've said, I know this is in his own mind. I know this is a bad deal. But I also know how to coach LeBron. A Lakers have good young roster. I'm in Los Angeles. I'm making six million dollars a year. If the reports are true he was getting six million a year for three years, Michael. If he would have won won a championship or just one period like gotten back to the finance or gotten them back. Maybe even the confrontation me, right? Like like they'd legs six year. If he goes gets them back to the playoffs improves every year to the point where they're knocking on the door. Of course, the Lakers are gonna I would have bet on myself. Am I being naive? No. I agree with you. When I heard he turned down the deal because it was three years as opposed to five years. I thought to myself I would have taken it. You gotta chess a coastal for the next three years. You guys have been successful in the past six million a year. Six million a year. Okay. You may not win the championship. But at least I believe you'll be contention. That's they build a Rawson as young guys improve. And out to believe in myself say I'm gonna show genie and and and management group that we are headed in the right direction. So at the end of three years after two years, I can sign a three year extension something like that. I was with you. I'll take it. Anyway. What are you gonna sit around for the next two years and do nothing right in especially if he doesn't get another job. Now. I know people say, hey, Ireland. That's not fair they disrespected him, and he still being paid by Dan, Gilbert, ten million next two years. I don't care if he's still being paid in Gilbert guys from your world NBA players, former NBA players, current NBA coaches are all alter competitive, they're not happy sitting at home nothing contract by the cows would have been wiped out if you take in the Lakers jobs. It wasn't like, you know, the clause contracts, you hedge one again. Yeah. So he would make eight more million dollars over the next three years. I was with you take it any way man approved that he's guys that you can coach easy for us to say because he felt very. Medifast Fred and west Covina wants to talk about tight Lou. Hey, Fred, you're on ESPN LA. Hey, john. Thanks for having me. I was listening to you right now. And you picked out of the words, you're gonna say, you know, Tai Lue is somebody reminds me of someone who was on a big hit TV series, you know, with LeBron Cleveland, and he's been typecast and whether that's fair unfair. He's looking a LeBron guy. That's why he's not getting offered any other job. You don't hear Tyler's name out there being associated with any other jobs? So I don't know why like you said fair unfair. He's not taking this chance betting on himself. I mean, what did he have to lose? If it works out. The Lakers wanna can't be they get to a conference final. He's going to get those fourth and fifth years. I think maybe maybe a five year deal at the end of the three. Right, right. I mean, I really I'm disappointed that he didn't look at that. As an opportunity. Great. I'll tell you attain. Interesting parallel to this. I've never told this story on the air. In twenty eleven when I got hired to be the Lakers radio play by play guy. It was a weird scenario under which Spiro was going to go to TV and Billy Mack was going to go to radio, and they were all set and Spiro got offered. The Knicks job any left to undergo home. Right. And he grew up in fan. I totally understood why did it and I had finished initially for the radio job. I had finished second to Spiro years before they liked me. But they hired him. And he's great. So the Lakers called me. And they said, hey, we're in a pinch. We need you to be the radio play by play guy, which was a dream job for me. And they said, but there's a catch. And I said what's the catch? They said one year deal there's a strike this looming. We don't even know if there's going to be a season. And we frankly don't know what you're going to sound like once you start doing it. So we'll give you a one year. There wasn't anybody else in the league that had this arrangement. But I said get me in the chair. You'll have a tough time getting me out of it. And because that's gone you work gift respected NASCAR the three year deal. I didn't ask for anything. I said I even said to them I said once once you get me in there. You're gonna see how hard I'm gonna work, and you're going to be tough. And and last year I finished your eight so on yourself. I bet on myself read, and that's what I think ties should have done, and I like lot Mike Leno you to completely agree with your last thing before I go, I'll say about this whole coaching thing that's going on and everything to see social media where they're criticizing the higher the way. I look at it guys. There was no Pat Riley out there Gregg Popovich isn't available. You know, Phil Jackson's not come out of retirement. You look at tie Lou. You look at Monty Williams all of these guys. I I mean or risk. I don't think there's any home run hire out there. I think you get Frank Vogel. You have Jason Kidd. I think you have as good a chance of that working out as you would have with any of them. Thank you for the phone call and Michael frac- Franco kind of bet on himself. He didn't say, Nope. I won't take a three year deal. Nope. I'm gonna go in there and show you what I can do. And by the way. I have a tidbit about LeBron in regards to Vogel shirt with the next Ramona coming up, Michael in for Mason in Ireland ESPN LA, I Mason in Ireland show, Michael Thompsons information as the most talented musician in history right there. Don't get me started on that. I'm with you. Yeah. He could play any instrument. He could you know? I don't know if you heard it. But the date music day he died we had Jimmy jam on. Yeah. And Jimmy jam grew up with him in Minneapolis. They went to middle school and everybody signed up to play guitar in the in the middle school talent show and prince the they they was the best one his name was prince Nelson, prince Rogers Nelson. And so everybody said, well, none of us completely cars. Good as prince and prince said, yeah. But I can play every other instruments. He doesn't get enough credit, but he's the greatest musician and history. Yeah. And could listen to them all day that guy's dead rock and roll history. Yeah. I it. Just great stuff. I were talking about the higher of Frank Vogel, and Jason Kidd as an assistant, which is a little unusual. There's some people that think that that this doesn't work. Here's more from Stephen a Smith. He's not expected to be the coach long-term put a loss Angeles Lakers. So one would ask the question. Why not just hi Jason Kidd, head coach? Well, it's very very simple. He has relatively uncomfortable past one involved. A message violence, obviously, it ended up in the divorce driving while intoxicated charge that he had to deal with as well, not to mention the fact that whether it was in Brooklyn, Milwaukee he gave the impression that he wanted more than just head coaching responsibilities. He wanted to run the show they knew they couldn't sell him to the public in Los Angeles. They went the route of Frank Vogel wa because he accepted three years at five million per year. Not to mention a fact if there's even a modicum. Of success that he does not have Jason Kidd is in line to be the next head coach, here's haying towards wants to talk about Jason Kidd. Hey, how are you? Good. How are you? Good. Yes. Might comment was just about the character of Jason Kidd. And, you know, not just the crimes the criminal past a pattern of the recent abusing power. You know, he whatever details were both organizations. He was coaching. He made people uncomfortable. And he was ready to he's he was a power monger. And I think that it really. It's a snake in the grass and put the Vogel in a very difficult position. And it's going to it's really comes down to in my opinion. The leadership of the Lakers, and how they have come to view players and coaching staff, and they don't look at character. They look at talent. And you know, it goes down to how they surround us porting staff around LeBron the character of the people they brought in the character of the coaching staff that they've put around Luke. And now the character of people are putting around Frankfurt where they're setting him up for disaster. A couple of things that you come in. And I number one Luke picked his own assistance. The Lakers did not put anyone in around. Luke lay allowed Luke to pick his own assistance. They felt like he didn't have enough experience on that bench. Which is I think what led to them insisting on whoever the new coaches hiring, Jason Kidd, and you made another point. Let's assume for the sake of our discussion that everything you said is true that kids are bad guy snake in the grass. What all that stuff at some point, Jason Kidd is going to what what do you believe we should do with people that have that type of background? Do you just write him off and never hire them again or do you? I mean, somebody's gotta give them a chance. Right. If he says he's reformed. I believe in the process of rehabilitation, you know. But I don't believe in on my time. Okay. Fair enough. That's your with Gregg on that. But Michael this a hall of fame player, and let's kid ourselves. He was hired. Basically for Lonzo. Yep. You know, here's Adrian religion hausky talking about why kid made such an impression on the Lakers for an office. They want to jump start his career increases value. And they think Jason Kidd will be a significant mentor for him. The Lakers made a lot of calls about kids work in Milwaukee liked what they heard about his role in the development of several the young players on that books team that have now blossomed into a team that's in the conference finals, those were all parts of the decision to include Jason kitty, also has a strong relationship with LeBron James. And that's part of all that. Yes. So now now I mentioned that I heard LeBron tidbit in Ramone is gonna join the show eventually in all all esker to come on this. She's been making phone calls all weekend. I've been told not by the Lakers, but told by a reliable source that LeBron signed off on this kid onboard with Vogel no-go Vogel with kit and part of the reason was that LeBron competed against these guys three years in row in the Eastern Conference finals, and I think he looked across weight and said, okay, I've got Wayne Wade, Chris Bosh and a bunch of other guys we're gonna win this and Indiana didn't have they had ROY Hibbert and David west, and George and George hill was on the team. And they took him six games twice in seven games once almost beat him. So I think he respectful now. I don't know if it's going to work who knows it. We don't know see. Yeah. Wait and see. All right. Let's go to rob in the bay area. Hey, rob. You're on ESPN LA. Hi, how you guys doing good? Rob. Well, I'm on board with the higher in. You know, I believe in giving people a second chance on me. Great. I mean, I guess he just wants to go to build a prisoner. Chop rocks for the rest of his life will be Jason Kidd. Hell he has Dacians. He's doing some good still. I don't wanna just ostracize guy at the league because he's made some mistakes. I mean, there's been many players many coaches many everybody does Nate mistakes in the league if some NFL India is some professional capacity working. So I don't want to say that. But I just wanted to say that the Lakers, I think we're gonna get division. I'm not. One of these fans going to say that terrible. Hi, I wanna see the process play out because Luke Walton work. I mean, we've had coaches hasn't worked out. So here's another coach was giving opportunity in to know what we do this summer with free agent. I mean hope we're not just looking at A-List free agents. You know, let's try to get like a guy like nickel vich or somebody like that. I love that he can play. Well, obviously Vogel knows about him coach just to commentary love to work. You guys do and have a good day. All right. Thanks. I Ramon is on her way over she'll be your shortly. Michael's information moment you waiting on her. What time is it just gonna say she does she know where off at three grid. She may be here to fifty five. That should be. Of remote? I I'm glad that baby Daniel gut here when he got here because Ramona would have been late for the delivers. Right this eastern standard time central mountain Pacific black people standard time and Ramona's standard time. You said it. I really good friends with reporter in San Diego with light girl and her, and I would always go out and do stuff together, and she goes pick. She goes pick me up seven thirty BT. I said, what are you talking about you seven thirty BT? And what does that mean? She goes that means be my house by nine exactly. Does that? All right. We'll get remote in here. Next. Michael's information. LA?
Ask Amy: Why Does My Kid Always Want To Pretend He's the Bad Guy?
"To ask amy from what fresh hell laughing in the face of motherhood solving your parenting dilemmas. One question at a time. This week's question is from Danielle, on facebook she asks does anyone else have a kid that always wants to play the mean guy my almost three year old son always wants to play the villain and hardly ever the hero or the Nice Guy is this normal or am I raising a future bad boy? Yes it's Normal Danielle first of all. Yes. I have a nephew who who is also three years old and also always wants to play the bad guy so I can assure you that this is Very normal and very common and not you're not alone at all. This is more common in boys than girls and we actually did an episode on this. If you haven't listened to our boy obsessions episode, it's episode seventy seven I'm going to put the link in the show notes for this episode go back and listen to this because studies have proven that young boys are even more likely than young girls to develop white psychologists call extremely intense interests. Sometimes, it's dinosaurs sometimes it's spaceships sometimes it's the bag is Disney movies or wherever. And it's it's very common experts say and I would agree having had two little boys that liked to jump on couches and be bad guys that this is something that they need to act out what they're interested in these kids who want to be villains is the power that those villains have is the not having to listen to rules right the the bad guy doesn't have to listen when it's time for bed or have to sit in his chair nicer. Have to go to church and not talk bad guys outside those rules and your three year old's life is all about things that they don't WanNa do a lot of the time. So they're fantasizing about bats sort of power. As long as that fantasy, as long as you know stomping around and saying I'm Captain Hook in waving a stick in pretending it's a sword as as that's confined to play time as long as they're not hitting other kids, you know pulling the cat's tail actually acting out but more sort of owning the the. Bravura. The character of it without acting out it's it's completely fine Dr Michael Thompson wrote a book called Raising Cain about boys in particular. It's an excellent book and he says boys fantasy lives are no place for lessons on subjectivity in humanizing the other I don't think those. Lessons have to be completely excluded from your son's life, but it's Ok that at three he's working on something else first of all, make sure the media that you're having in your house, our movies and TV shows and cartoons where the bad guy or the bad gal gets what's coming to them in the ant- most shows at your kids watch like Ursula is the bad Guy Jaffar. There are all these Disney movies cartoons they do all have in common that the abominable snowman at the end is either in jail or heat has had a bad tooth along and he wasn't actually bad. Taste and so you can start when you watch these shows or encounter playing captain. Hook. With your son, you can stress that the good guys won how did Peter Pan Captain Hook, how did they trick him like how did Aladdin? Jaffar because the good guy does always win in the end and at some point, your kid is going to catch on to that and that's going to become a little bit more interesting. And if you see it starting to creep into their behavior starting to be difficult, you can say in our house, we talk about our problems. We don't use their fists. We don't hit with swords how good guys win if they can't do that and start to talk about these of other avenues to power I. Think eventually your three year old once he becomes more of a school age. He's going to start to understand right and wrong good and bad and he's GonNa choose the Luke Skywalker side of things until then he's interested in exercising some power that he knows he doesn't have in real life and I think letting him have a little bit of fun with that is absolutely fine. Send US your parenting questions, and you might answer yours next email us questions at what fresh PODCAST DOT com. Thanks for listening.
The Sedano Show ( HR 1)
"I never know when the show starts especially on tuesday it is in fact taco tuesday talk to which might might take up most of the four o'clock walk our justice sessions about tacos and tuesday's brian committee andy kamsky infra sodano sodano's on vacation for a couple of weeks speaking of which by the way. I just got back from vacation brian. I was in mexico for week. Boy in your arms including by the way on a tuesday where i saw no taco tuesday celebrations whatsoever never know believe believe believe it or not and this is hard to believe americans may have taken something and turn it into their they might as in spanish tuesday doesn't start with a t t. There's enough english spoken. Why would they call tuesday down there. It's drew martos. That's true just saying right probably monday. That's true but i but i is there. Is there any day of the week of this exactly in my head. I'm going back through. I don't think they can do that down there. Well do different dish. We're always looking for time to party out here so well no no but and look at the the mexican tourism industry which by the way i it's fantastic. I mean you wanna talk about visiting somewhere where they are just incredible due to their guests. It's mexico. I mean they're unbelievable with it but they go out of their way in particular to cater to their american audience so even though it's alliteration it doesn't work in terms of the native work at the at the resort. I'm telling you right now sort. I don't think they're going to do a lot of topics but there's a lot of the areas is all resort so the point being would have taken off in the resort areas and it did not do taco tuesday did not exist on my resort and pooh-pooh on in our town. No i'm not. I'm being very americanism in generally speaking. I think most most places recognized that americans when they travel. Many americans liked to take america with them right. We're not really big on necessarily diving into the culture is going to tell me when you were there last tuesday you would would seeing the waiters and things you know they say these gimme plank they what they probably do is just roll their eyes and go yes sir her. It's taco tuesday and they just go back to the kitchen. I remember he's a guest other okay. It's like you know any went to beijing last weekend. What kind of chinese food you guys have sir. We just call that food just food here. I saw by the way the craziest thing my second to last last day down in mexico i went to this place called shell haw and it's basically like if you combined seaworld with raging waters like it's this amazing huge huge <hes> aquatic park where you can see different light you can snorkel and see different sea animals like jaguars around. There's manatees. There's birds everywhere lizards everywhere but also like a lazy river. There's one hundred thirty one foot tall water slide like it's just it's crazy separate. The jaguars from the lazy river in the manatees caesar's just everything no no. It's not i mean there. Are there are rules. It's not it's not a free for all and there were these three guys down to these these three guys and a woman who was at least nine months pregnant like this woman looked like she was about to burst at any minute and towards the end of our time down there as we're in this one locker area getting our stuff together. We saw the guys who are just hammered. I mean they are like as drunk as anybody you've ever seen at any bar threaten to throw jaguars on flight. It's not there like arguing with each other like one of them's like a man. I i never her hat data my life. I never had a data amount can be your dad. I can be your dad and they're like they're dropping bombs at each other and none of them are black which made it'd even more uncomfortable. There's kids around including my own. Hey why use spoiling taco tuesday so you know. We're just trying to get away from them. As quickly as possible. I can see other people doing the same but they end up out in the parking. Lot area where we like. Everyone else are waiting for our shuttles. One of them is so drunk. He can't stand up like he keeps his falling over falling over his friends were equally drunk or getting mad at him and these police come out and they take hey come away but in order to get him like did they could actually take him away. They put him in a wheelchair so they've got this guy who can't even stand up and and they're dragging him out enrolling about in a wheelchair. All pearson yeah like one of the cops is holding him around his neck and two of them are just willing this guy's out this guy and he's like. I don't give a bleep man. I don't give a bleep whatever and this woman is with the other one. Who's arguing back with him. She's like i am nine months pregnant i do not i am not here for for this bleep. I am not she's british. I clarify not really sure that came through. It was in slow. I know like this woman got got these other guys to finally knock it off because she had that crazy pregnant woman glare like seriously if you do not not stop this right now and this guy to the best of my knowledge went to jail. He went to jail because he got to z. Quit on like going to seaworld sea world getting drunk and going to prison for that. Just doesn't seem worth it no like who goes there to get hammered icu. Who does that that guy. It was crazy. It was absolutely nuts american yeah yeah. We kind of ruin everything we do. We're not we don't travel. Well just just as a group. I think we'll again the biggest flaw. I think that americans have when they travel. Abroad is that they liked. Take america with them as opposed to going to experience the thing that you're traveling abroad to see <hes>. I'm glad you're back. Yeah i know you were you really worried about like abi gone. I haven't seen the news is not changing three. I kept trying to access research e._s._p._n. On my phone kept giving it to me in spanish and i couldn't figure out how to actually fleet english. I'm telling you because i was on vacation for a couple of weeks before you're aerobic in the news is the same as it was when i on vacation three weeks ago miss anything so you're good to go. Don't worry about it. Don't feel it all self conscious. <hes> one of the big things that came him out andy schedule the lakers have won. <hes> you have thoughts about we drop yesterday but obviously we didn't get a chance to talk about it. <hes> a lot of stuff in there that that really could influence how the lakers go about taking care of their players this year and getting everybody healthy to the playoffs to explain what that is next brian kim annette ski andy kamensky sodano show e._s._p._n. L._a. Oh all right so i was going to set up this this thing that we're doing over the course of the show today <hes> related to the the earl spencer fight coming up and i'm gonna do it wrong and so i'm gonna ask mike to do it. Instead <hes> so gay brand kaminsky and accommodates game for sodano so explain what's going on here mike <hes> so that was a press conference today for the <hes> aero spence shawn porter fight. It's going to be at staples center. On on september twenty eighth so michael thompson and demarco far came in and re recorded the fighters earlier so we're going to air both of those interviews <hes> we had both fighters zan one at a time today so we'll air those interviews a little bit later today crossover at all in terms of being in the same space they did when they did the faceoff race-off but the the <hes> promotional company did not want them cross and pass because they said anything can spark these guys they're pretty cordial but at the same meantime <hes> there in that competitive mobile right now so to try to keep each other fighters away from each other and the camps away from each other yeah and generally speaking if you've ever heard michael michael interview anyone. It's worth sticking around for so we're going to. We're going to do it at four forty. Four hundred shawn porter five forty will do thank you very good. We'll talk to both michael and demarco as well both about this and little football little n._b._a. Stuff like that so <hes> gets ready for the the spence porter order fight as well and fortunately you're gotten ready by people who know what they're talking about as opposed to us all right so andy's back from mexico. The schedule dropped yesterday in in the n._b._a. We already knew about opening night against the clippers. We already knew about christmas also against the clippers but there were other games andy to to figure out and overall overall. I actually as much as you can figure out like what the schedule is for eight weeks before. Anything actually happens. I i think the lakers caught some breaks here. Yes they did. They absolutely did in particular the way that the schedule opens up fairly soft for them and then it concludes fairly soft which is great because for a team that has a lot of moving pieces. They've got an opportunity to try to find their footing. Try to start gelling against relatively lesser competition competition but i also think the end being soft matters to because god willing they're going to be jockeying for playoff position down the stretch when every single wind matters others or or they they're pretty well locked in or you know you're you're somewhere between a two and a four or whatever it might be and you feel comfortable where you are and you have the ability to rest people whatever it is i mean here. I'll i'll break it down. If you look at the the first <hes> they have the first ten games five live or against teams that are presumably going to be the lottery not necessarily terrible teams like dallas but lottery teams was about as much as you can ask for in the western conference and and you know overall their october november schedule is ranked currently as the twenty ninth most difficult in the n._b._a. Basically as easy as you can possibly get <hes> <hes> they have four straight games in los angeles have <hes> seven basically we're with only one road game and they they're here a lot. They have a chance to get off their good. Good start at the end. There april schedule is also twenty sixth in the league in terms of degree of difficulty almost all home games and almost all against teams in the lottery but even to like just at the at the opener which is against the clippers and the clippers are in that mix to be championship contenders exactly so even against the good teams that they're going to be playing at the beginning of the year. They catch a little bit of a break there as well. It's funny because i i was <hes> you know the folks at <hes> showtime forum your bergman's outfits <hes> <hes> they they tweeted out a little piece of <hes> something i wrote for the athletic about the schedule and basically what i was saying was like look i understand last year. Everybody thought the lakers could get off to a slow start. You have a lebron a bunch of young players a lot of guys to integrate and all that kinda stuff and everybody said lebron said they said you know we're not we're nobody's gonna worry if we get off to a slow start doc and they they kind of did and people still kinda worried and still kind of freaked out vis year though with anthony davis and they changed coaches and the expectations and all this kind of stuff like i understand there are a lot of reasons they could still get off to a slow start new coaching staff new roster bunch of guys learn each other woah so i wrote you know if if they're seven seven eight and six six and eight or whatever it is after fourteen fifteen games people are going the noise is going to be insane and somebody wrote back on twitter like even if like you we all expect their logical explanations even if all this like you really think people are going to get worked up over that you really think people are gonna get. It's going to get really bad. Is this your first day. Have you never seen this movie before. Of course i people are gonna freak out so the opportunity to get off too like a ten and five start eleven and four whatever it might be so that when you get into the middle of the year you might lose three or four four zero. Whatever it is people already people already said you're good like nobody's worried about it that much anymore. It's really important to just because i mean with a team like this where you've got lebron james who in and of himself is maybe the biggest story in sports and you bring in lebron james and it's the lakers with a new coaching staff davis to that bring a anthony davis to that like anything that you can eliminate as a potential storyline is beneficial. It's really important that you can eliminate as many talking points that that would be considered negative as possible because we're already going to be hyper scrutinizing everything as it is and we'd like to the point like we there's as an assistant coach fair or unfair. Jason kidd that everybody expects is going to be like all over frank vogel to get his job but if they get off to a good start that's at least one story story line that he's listening anthony davis there. I expect right now that he will end up reopen with the lakers in summer two thousand twenty. He's gonna end up a laker for a while but if you get off to a slow start then that storyline no matter how legitimate it actually is to anthony. Davis is out there exactly interesting jim because more of a thing talking about it all season regardless but the context how we talk about it. That's one thing that we don't talk about very much. Nobody talks about his anthony. Davis gonna stay like that's not sound like when they made that trade nobody nobody but like generally speaking of all the stuff off that was talked about they gave up too much did rob pelinka understand what was going on when they ever going to draft again too young whatever it is very little title of the conversation was centered around your guys he's he he is potentially a rental a one and done and then he's off to somewhere else because like you said everybody everybody myself included anthony davis included the lakers included expects that he's going to be here for the long haul and the and the reasons that he's not committing make sense like a you a you wouldn't commit to something before you know what it is but being can't he's not gonna sign yet because he makes more money. If you're right exactly financially it makes no sense for him to sign an extension now or you know to to commit to anything now actually is illogical but that wouldn't ask kyrie irving if committing to stay in one place ahead of time time is a good idea though it's not a good idea at all that with boston and is now in brooklyn right but if they get off to a slow start all of our all of our collective knowledge knowledge with the logic of why anthony davis wouldn't commit right now. That's going to go out the window up and people are going to start just hyper dissecting this thing to death. I remember forgot michael thompson and demarco far getting ready for the spence spencer fight right quarter sports sponsored quarter isaiah thinking aerospace. It was a different type thing a person who doesn't exist spence importer so that'll be coming up <hes> four thirty about five thirty. We'll have those guys on to get you ready for that but up next next andy i got two numbers that will help everybody understand how the lakers. We didn't get their players healthy to the playoffs. That's next game and asking brothers infra sodano e._s._p._n. Elect kennedy brothers infra sodano e._s._p._n. L._a. <hes> michael thompson coming up in about a half hour to talk basketball and to talk boxing liquor schedule stuff here in a second but in the meantime magic johnson is turning sixty and tomorrow tomorrow in celebration has started just churning out lists on twitter. Tom sixty lists top sixty <hes> movies top sixty entrepreneur athletes entrepreneurs. I believe <hes> top sixty places to travel. Magic is an avid traveler. <hes> we're gonna focus though on magic magic johnson's top sixty t._v. shows starting with number sixty. Can we get a drummer police. What's happening magic johnson's sixtieth best t._v. Show of all good show very good show i once when i was in high school i was in the saint louis airport gome with some. I'm friends on our spring break. Trip and fred berry who played rerun on what's happening was being shuttled through the airport like one of those v._i._p. Carts through the saint ain't louis airport and my friend gave an i is lets you know how long ago was because we could actually do this. We dropped our luggage and chased after this cart with rerun run because we do things you can't do. Now you abandon your luggage or chase people. No no no no no. We chased after fred berry because we wanted to meet him and we asked him for an autograph. Graphene was really really nice and he gave us but i felt so sad about this. He signed this piece of paper to both of us from rerun like input fred fred berry. What do we know your actual name. We know who you are. I mean couple. White guys have no idea what his real name is but we knew fred berry was i was like dude. Come on unlike don't disrespect yourself like this. We know you're fred berry dammit <hes> kudos to magic also for having the exact proper amount of exclamation asian points in the on the show title yes to if you go back and you look at it what's happening had two exclamation points so good for number fifty nine in the twilight zone good show me means the classic. Yes well judging by magic's list list. Most of it's the classic definitely class thompson will love yes. He will yes and don't worry dan. We're not going to go through all sixty in this segment but we are gonna go through a bunch of it and then somewhere in the six o'clock hour. Maybe we'll debate the rest of magic johnson honest twitter feed by the way this is why he quit the lakers could do things like this <hes> tweeting out his top sixty of all kinds of things. We'll keep you updated on that. <hes> all right so andy we're talking about the schedule for the lakers and both of us agree that the lakers catch a break with an easy start and easy finish it does mean that they have a couple absolutely brutal stretches like march is cold and brutal and disgusting discussing for them and houston in december. They have the hardest schedule in the n._b._a. At least as it stands right now. That's what people say <hes> one stretch. This is my i. I think my favorite at houston at boston at the knicks at brooklyn at philadelphia than the clippers portland at sacramento san antonio houston golden state that's eleven games nine of which are against playoff opponents and sacramento is like a dark horse well look sacramento thinks of themselves as the playoffs absolutely clearly do that's one lousy team in an eleven game stretch and it's new york and as i pointed out yesterday when he was in here with us there is something called the new york flu. Do you play the knicks. Knicks swept the lakers last year. They swept them a lot of teams. The knicks swept in the knicks. Six did not sleep a lot of teams of this week. The lakers swept the lakers. Yeah the march goes like this at new orleans than philadelphia milwaukee the clippers <hes> brooklyn houston denver consecutive games against utah and then a six game road trip the longest of the year again you pay for it the easy start and easy finish finish with some terrible stuff in the middle but i still think that's better for them. Well it's better for them but also it's beneficial i guess in terms of there's useful knowledge from that because like by march arch you have a really good idea of what type of team you have so going up against a string teams like this in march. It's going to be hard. Intimate have something we have an adverse effect on your record but at least you're really getting an idea of who you are as a team because by now like if you're not clicking in march even like if you're in that playoff playoff mix you're not going to be feeling good about where things are heading once that playoffs begins but the flipside is you get through a slate like that you know with a winning record for that for that stretch or maybe even like a kind of dominant record for that stretch your you're feeling really good about where you are but the rest of the league recognize all right this lebron anthony davis davis thing like it's working as well as an as anybody with the lakers ever imagined if you're trying to figure out some other stuff and i break some of this down my trudell l. breaks down and lakers dot com and do it at the athletic <hes> stuff that works for the lakers the n._b._a. Really hard to lower the number of backpacks not just for the lakers put for for every time the lakers this year have twelve that is not very many <hes> one of them requires no travel. It's a brooklyn and <hes> when they're in new york they the nets and the knicks on consecutive active days and only in two of their backpacks are both against playoff opponents and weirdly. It's both denver in utah both times so you have that the back to backs. Aren't that bat. There aren't that many of them and this. I thought was really interesting last year. The lakers travels fifty three thousand four hundred fifty five miles in the air this this year that number is twenty percent lower. It's down to under forty three thousand and <hes> you get this. It's like that's the seventh fewest amount of travel miles else in the n._b._a. I mean that's that's a huge breaking. Listen caspian los angeles to be able to have that little travel. You got thirty basically basically thirty five year old brian james. You're trying to shepherd anthony davis through his first fully healthy season ever really you know. Demarcus cousins coming off in injury. Danny green not getting any any younger like the hey bradley's got an extensive entry looser the whole thugs whose mass young as he is important as he is to this team and i think he could lead the team in overall minutes. Kuzma's injuries both seasons in the n._b._a. Basically like the whole deal here is can you get them healthy into the playoffs because that's then you think can you lebron cranks it up. You have anthony davis you had the experience of danny green like the load management deal of all this like every little bit counts. I don't care if they travel by charter jet. Stay in the best hotel you save twenty percents off of your travel schedule. That's going to make a difference for these guys. Yeah i mean every single break that the lakers can possibly get with a team that you know has so many different moving parts and they gotta figure out how they're gonna play with each other with a new system under frank vogel but also to like a west. That's really difficult but it also too wide open and like the opportunity to make yourself a front runner. You're you're gonna need some breaks and the lakers got some breaks with their or schedule. It gets impossible to be in the west and have an easy schedule. No like that just doesn't like there's like there are no. I was thinking about this. Yesterday i mean our phoenix in memphis are bad yes but are they like. They're not bad in a way where like you have zero talent rhyming andrea aden's pretty good up and coming player player and booker's pretty good and they sign rubio and phoenix and they've they've got. I mean on every few nights. They're going to be okay right yeah. I mean a couple of good <hes> <hes> john moran <hes> jaren jackson. You're like they. They've got good players but they're going to be bad. I mean because if all it took was one or two good players phoenix wouldn't have been so bad ed last year because they had the andrea exactly. I mean they're not doing that good. They're not going to be a good team. What would you say is the next worst team in the conference. Is it dallas. This is at sacramento. I think it's dallas amy for no other reason than we don't. We have no idea what that looks like. We don shirts yeah and we don't know how healthy posing using as as what he's gonna look like when he comes back how many games he's going to need but thirty something games last year they weren't trash last year or trash but i mean you're asking what's the next worst and that may prove viewpoint for thirty five or thirty six teams the third worst team in the conference. Your conferences really good yeah so i'm gonna suck. They're gonna with zion know. Actually everyone's lanier good team. They signed j radic. Yes they got derrick favors. Oh that's a pretty good tv. They should be they should be if nothing else a good enough team to keep you interested. They gotta to keep focus right amount of with that in mind like what's a number. You know the lakers aren't nobody. I don't think anybody in the conference is gonna win. Sixty five games no it's. It's just tomba concord and i don't don't think anybody's quite the golden state lost. Durant claes hurt all that kind of stuff so they don't have the firepower. Utah is really good but they're not that good. The clippers are gonna be without paul. George for anywhere from two four for some people say even six so if they if they lose paul george six weeks. They're not gonna win sixty five games so what's i mean if the lakers win fifty five fifty five season a lot of fifty five would be a massive season like that. That's a really really where does that land. You probably certainly top four. Oh yeah i i think fifty five you have a chance of actually winning the west or coming out number one. It's possible i fifty five. I think it absolutely lulu putsches than among florida home court. The finals is almost certainly going to be an eastern. I would think milwaukee philly. I would wanna go teams because they get to play play orlando and you know the knicks and the they're six or seven of those teams even the bottom half of the playoff bradley. It's charlotte. They get some lousy teams in the d. You know the the five hundred teams that are going to be in the playoff hunt. That aren't that good young. -lanta is up and coming but they're not gonna be good yet. No they chicago's. It's going to be a good team. Chicago is i think chicago is going to be worse than phoenix or memphis like in terms of actual talent what they're putting out there. The knicks have nothing but power forwards and r._j. Barrack like that is a bizarre roster. It's all big men in r._j. Barrett they're not going to be very good just more bad teams. In the east magic johnson's johnson's fiftieth best television show of all time starsky hutch good show good show good show starsky hutch might not really i remember it though it's fun man as much as magic johnson johnson typically on twitter is joke that writes itself in terms of anything that he tweets. I'm gonna give him props. I think this thread that he's put out there. These top sixty lists delightful full his and he clearly put a lot of thought into it. His list of sixty athletes turn entrepreneurs is controversy as controversial. It's frankly a little strange. I mean he clearly put thought into it. I think he may have outsmarted himself at time. All i'm saying is is in l. A. guy and he has kobe bryant. At thirty third athlete turned entrepreneur that part of it is a strange list. We'll get into that later on this. Show that is not going to get magic into kobe's music as well first of all if magic was really being honest about this thing is if he was keeping it a hundred as the kids would say but also on the same lists of athletes turn entrepreneurs keyshawn on tapa kobe bryant. Yes <hes> but you know who's not on the list magic johnson well. No you can't put yourself you will know if you really want this thing to be an accurate list you can't you can't put him so so and where would matt magic. We'll be somewhere in the top ten. He's one magic might be number one album same <unk>. I i would agree with you but you can't. I mean look magic edgy. Johnson cannot put out a list magic. Johnson is number one on the list. Yes he can he can yes he can. If you look like a jerk no you you look like in this particular case. You're being honest missed. I mean look at match johnson's a billionaire. It's his birthday yes. You're turning sixty. You're a billionaire and you're magic johnson. He absolutely could have put himself number for one liberal like a jerk but does that make him a kobe. Hater magic wasn't in the top five. He would then great himself. You know what i mean but i think we all know he's in the top five as far as athletes turning entrepreneur this this is actually a pretty michael jordan east pretty low on this list whereas m._j. Thirty seven damn number thirty seven on this list tony any hawk fifty seven tiger woods fifty five now ten ten years ago tighter might have been a little higher but like you don't you don't think about michael jordan being lower than hank aaron lebron's thirty fourth kobe's thirty third. Do you think kobe's a little honk that on the second page a little bit i oh i think there's a zero percent. Chance of kobe doesn't think that he's a better athlete turned entrepreneur wolf then some of these drew bledsoe yes he does. I guarantee you joe. Montana wants hannah. I think the perception with koby as he started. I wouldn't say late but really after his career you know what i mean yeah bronze still in his career warrior exactly exactly so number twenty george foreman that feels a little low man sold a lotta grills. I mean that's a lot of okay. Here's a question is lebron. An angry lebron coming in at a surprising thirty four and me lebron i would argue is the most powerful athlete north american sports as far as current athletes have nothing else else. Maybe athletes period. Do you think lebron is mad that he's number thirty. Four and dwayne wade seventeen that is gonna miss off. Lebron like this vis may actually get lebron more motivated for the season than anything else that's magic i know he's just putting this out his birthday and his just his opinion and things he's come up with with its experts around him but he has some explaining to do he does this. Particular list is the one that again. Magic thought we want to do is google. We'll find out what a lot of like what is carl banks doing yeah. Carl banks number six on the athletes turned entrepreneurs former new york giants outside linebacker hall of famer grant player. They're fantastic clearly has done well from self after the game but i don't know what carl banks does danika patrick number ten. I'm telling you go daddy. Morobi toby is texting magic right now. There's zero percent chance kobe's not deeply offend jeez according to wikipedia again consider the source. I magic drastically over and if we're talking if we're talking funds shouldn't floyd mayweather being the top ten but then you got all their issues with the whole floyd thing but i mean what we're talking about list right. We're just talking entrepreneurs. You know it's hard to lead floyd off. I mean he's i don't like floyd mayweather as a human being but if you're just saying athletes turned entrepreneurs it is very driven so wind guys that love what he's done with. What's your blood's. John madden seems like john madden should be close to michael jordan right john madden's thirty. Has he done anything other than put his name on madden. I think that's enough. I mean it's a lot more worth more say jordan in his job. He has a team yes but outside of that is just as soon as right. Nomar forty-one oscar de la hoya forty gods. Somebody just point this out and i feel like an idiot pat. It's at the underscore underdog the list out of that back he's right. All this guys needs to be here working. God i take back everything i said about these lists that he would never the worst rogers number like i'm trying to think aaron. Rodgers is done to be one time. I thought magic got it right on twitter that didn't nail biter bitter and he really got us because he went off medical order by the first name and not because he was he trading us. Nobody who does that who goes first name eh but it does explain why barbershop is the fourth best movie while disrespect to barbershop very entertaining really really not understand how a top plank list works in hindsight now. I'm looking. I'm looking at the list here for t._v. Shows and i should have realized fifty to fifty nine all start with the other ones and also magic talk sixty places places to travel michael man. He must wanna couldn't astor down. The controversial versus magic likes to go get high coming up next. I this is what happens in august when you're really reaching content better things crop relate late. This is magic went from being like super controversial to the least baltimore. Now make makes sense top sixty places to travel venice. Wow we have figured it out out by so it's a little easier on some of these like the entrepreneur show one is tough because like you say every goes by first name which is not how you're supposed to do it but the other sure bunched a lot of 'em's there in the twenty s that was terrible that is that is one of the most colossal alonso radio failed all right michael tiles list fail that was magical sixty films number sixty ex- takes extra. I just thought he was a big action movie and that was the end of it. Wow batboys number three all right explain to recover. That was terrible stupid. I'm michael thompson coming up fifteen minutes. He has been a so michael thompson. <hes> <hes> coming up to get us ready for the <hes> spends porter fight. He did some interviews today. As sort of demarco far will have all that brian kaminsky into kamensky inforce adana day <hes> we still the the mocking is still rolling twitter for our inability to notice off the top magic johnson who is celebrating his sixtieth birthday tomorrow as pumped out a bunch of top sixty lists which we thought lose like magic getting like controversial i put out my opinions in here and i'll tell you the sixty best movies in order and its definitive knows alphabetical on the godfather he he ranked the godfather number one because let's be honest godfather and then from there all everybody really alphabetical top sixty athletes entrepreneurs. Were all wondering why aaron rogers is number. One <hes> a that's why <hes> you know why magic's favorite place to travel amsterdam alphabetical <hes> somebody suggested and i think this would actually work out really well for us because somebody suggested do top sixty n._b._a. Writers andy would be near the end. You'd be like the fourth come forth e._v. Be behind whoa jr adrian. Whoa generosity and less match doesn't know his first name and just calls him whoa junior which is like there. There's my open. We'd both be better than watch. I mean on one hand. I feel kinda stupid. I think you agree brian hands. I feel stupid but on the other hand like why hands as i feel stupid on the other hand in fairness to you and me and mike and curtis because none of none of us noticed either. Why would you even be looking for that in a tap. Pick a number lists like he fundamentally did this wrong dan wrong. I certainly for people who are steeped in sports radio like we are where are every list is meant to be a debate and not list but also to what did we start with. We started top sixty t._v. Shows number sixty. What's happening like that's actually kinda makes themselves. Both magic's era too good shows good show not a great show but it's good. I totally picture magic johnson. Thinking that what's happening really is the sixtieth best television show of all time but where we should have noticed though for example his top sixty films number four barbershop delightful but it's not the fourth best driving no barbershop number four best man number five hills cop number see. Here's the thing okay by now. We really should get. Here's the here's the thing though this is what makes it tricky is because of all all the bees in his top ten. You've got boys in the hood. Black klansman beverly hills cop like these are all really awesome movies. I would say overrated in the top. It's still very legitimately good movies at cameras coming to america fifteen like the color purple four exactly like dirty harry seventeen aimlessly. What we're showing here is that good movies are loaded your that's our fault with thinking that the barber shop is better than coming to america okay exactly no magic thing that now no he had it right and it was us thought it was a random number four train. We're gonna put out a poll at camber umbrellas who is more at fault for this us for not recognizing that the list were alphabetical or magic putting out eleven alphabetical lists <hes> in the four zero today's sack who is more at fault here so we'll put that out at cameras. I think it's magic. Oh i think it's definitely magic. He did this wrong. He fundamentally misunderstands what a top blank list is. It's not alphabetical like he fundamentally did it wrong. We should have picked up on it. I'm not saying we're blameless. I wanted to sing keyshawn where keyshawn would rank the entrepreneurs athletes are not fairly well. He's done well. Firms uh-huh yes all right so <hes> michael thompson today was involved he put on his reporter hat on his interviewer hat and he got got neck deep into this spence fight coming up on two two weeks or this two weeks not next month next month timber twenty september twentieth okay <hes> so that's coming up mike we will talk to michael thomson about that and about the n._b._a. And maybe find out where his favorite place to travel is and whether or not he would do this list alphabetically. That's coming up next sodano show chemnitz brothers in e._s._p._n. Elect.