18 Burst results for "Michael Shellenberger"
"michael shellenberger" Discussed on The Dinesh D'Souza Podcast
"It takes a special kind of incompetence to simultaneously produce inflation and recession. Now, those are actually opposites, inflation is when you have rises in price levels. Usually inflation is the result of overheating as they call it of an economy. Recession is the opposite. It's sluggishness. It's a decline in a contraction of economic growth. And by and large, these are arrows that move in the opposite. You can get one or you can get the other, but you have to be a Joe Biden. You have to say to get bought. And the combination of inflation and stagnation or recession is called stagflation. The economy is stagnant, and sure enough, the GDP growth just came out. Just below kind of underwater. That's the second, the second quarter in a row. And the second month in a row, and by and large economists and they've had a conventional practice for a long time, when you see something that's repeating itself, it begins to suggest a pattern. So this is a way of saying hey, listen. We're now in recession. We might be able to get out of it, but here we go, two quarters consecutively. So the Biden administration doesn't want it to be known or publicly acknowledged. And so what are they doing? They're denying it. They're denying they're trying to change the definition. Of recession. Oh, no. Don't look here. Look over here. Well, no. What they're basically saying is that there's a multitude of factors that one of them, I just heard Trump talk, I always want to say Trump. Biden talking yesterday, but we added 9 million jobs. You know, and it's like, well, that's not that good. Why are you bragging about that?
"michael shellenberger" Discussed on The Officer Tatum Show
"I want to get on to the middle class and how the left is trying to destroy the middle class and the goal. The goal is to train you to accept authoritarianism to accept communism. Society or the have or have not. You're going to get your crumbs. You're going to be happy and you're going to shut up. That's what the left wants you to do. So when we you have to look at everything that's going on and how the left is trying to gain power over you. If you say that you're for the Bill of Rights, if you say you're for the Second Amendment, then be for the Second Amendment, or simply say you're not. Those rights are rights that the government shouldn't touch. That's what the constitution says. It's amazing to me how far Americans have come from civics and understanding our constitution and how important it is that those Bill of rights are untouchable. By the federal government now, sadly, privacy, all these issues have been tied up with a lot of the things that are going on in some of these bureaucratic agencies that I think we need to winnow down. I think we need to cut the budgets and slash a lot of these agencies get rid of duplication, so on, et cetera. But that's a subject for another day. But I want you to understand that the left is intentionally trying to crush the middle class and they're intentionally or what they're training you to do is to accept authoritarian rule. We saw it with the lockdowns. How many of you would have would have guessed before the lockdowns pre lockdown that you had government officials, you know, the people that are supposed to work for you tell you whether or not your job is essential. You have to go feed your kids and you got some government employee that you're paying that you're paying his or her salary telling you their job is essential, but yours isn't. That you have to wear masks when we now know that was a bunch of bull. Just straight up lying to people in order to gain control. I mean, they were just playing a guessing game when it came to science. I mean, look at what's happening now, wrapping up energy energy prices, trying to get us to buy into this, these electrical vehicles, which essentially ultimately what they want to do is even take us out of those and put us into a densely populated cities where they can control us like they do in New York City like they do in Chicago. This is what they're after. So they want to take away the guns and we comply. Oh yes, we see we see the stories that hit the news we see the highland park murderer. We see this story on the news. But what we don't see are the thousands and thousands and thousands literally. Of cases and scenarios that happen every single day in the United States literally about every ten seconds actually left. There is a good person with a gun that uses that firearm to stop crime. That doesn't make the news because it would have to be played and loops every ten seconds or less. That's how often a gun is used to stop a crime to stop mass public shootings, but you don't hear about that. That's why I go to crime research dot org. You can actually read the stories crime, research dot org, another resource armed American news with Mark Walters is another one where they constantly give you stories of gun defenses that are happening daily that you never hear about. So the media, it's always guns or bad guns or bad guns are bad. But if you hear one story about this murderer in highland park, but in man, you can go to someplace where you're like, oh my God, 20,000 gun uses today saved a life? But this is what the left does. This is what the left does and obviously they've been very, very, very successful at it. Oh, I want to hear, I want to hear this caller. Jerry, from Hollister, California. I actually want to go right to him before I move on. This is interesting. Jerry from Hollister, California. Welcome to the officer, Tatum. I'm sure you got the mic. Hey, thanks, Carl. Great to be on the show. I used to be a level one NRA shooting instructor and myself and the vice principal of my kids high school. We had a shooting team there. And I just want to share this with you. We probably had 30 or 40 kids shooting on our shooting team and we shot trap. But we had Lincoln granite bay Roseville, Yuba City, Marysville, Fresno. We had kids were all surrounding the state capital of California. We'd have shoot offs in Fresno where we'd have 750 15 year old 18 year old kids with shotguns. Semi-automatic, single barrels and over and under shotguns, shooting for days out there with their families and another 1500 mom and dads and grandparents and siblings and so forth. We'd have, we'd have an awesome display of gun safety with these kids. So it's not the kids. It's definitely the person. And anyways, I just wanted to let you know that nothing more satisfying than teaching having a dad come up to you with his daughter and say, here, teach her how to shoot. And watch her grow in the shooting sports from being a freshman to a senior. She could barely hit a target when she started and by the time she was a senior she was shooting lights out. So it's all about responsible gun people. And I'm just so frustrated with all this gun talk. And I just appreciate you supporting the Second Amendment Carl. Thank you. Absolutely. Thank you, Jerry. I appreciate you being out there as a matter of fact, there's a young lady that works on Marco Rubio senatorial campaign right here in Florida who became a national national shooting champion. I believe she has gone to the Olympics and she started shooting when she was 15 or 16, her father's police officer trained her in weaponry and now, I mean, she's top of the line. She's top of the line. It's unbelievable. Oh, I forgot to ask Jerry. How many of these people have committed mass mass public murders since he trained him? Obviously the answer is none. So we have a population of over 330 million people. You have a few shooters out of that 330 million people murderers and all of a sudden we should take millions of people's rights away. This stuff isn't even logical, but this is what the left does to us. They make us get emotional now. Let me go to this issue at hand. I want to tie all of this stuff together. The left is trying to get you to accept authoritarianism. They are training you, whether it's high energy prices, whether it's the COVID lockdowns, they are training you to accept authoritarianism. They are totally winnowing out or hollowing out the middle class. They're doing it intentionally so. Why? Because when you're poor, you're more desperate, it's a lot harder to climb up the ladder if you will, especially if the left takes all the wrongs away from you, and that's exactly what you're doing at tip New York Post. Yes, you can blame Biden for crazy gas prices and here's why I started this in the other hour, but this was written by Michael shellenberger, by the way, I had to have Sean McConnell he informed me that shellenberger is out of the race for governor. I thought because he was an independent he went on regardless. That isn't the case in California, so he's out of the race, but he writes some fabulous columns and books as well. And actually, I thought he would have made a good governor for California, but here's what he wrote. You know, experts are saying, don't blame Biden for this oil crisis or the gasoline prices. It's Russian president Vladimir Putin's fault. They say the U.S. had to cut off Russian oil imports to punish Putin for invading Ukraine. That's what the experts would have you believe. Meanwhile, Biden himself has blamed the American energy industry at a time and I'm quoting Biden at a time of war Biden said high refinery profit margins being passed directly onto American families are not acceptable. Companies must take immediate action to increase the supply of gasoline diesel and other refined product, he said, but here's the problem. Shellenberger writes, U.S. refineries are already operating at 94% of their capacity, with U.S. refineries in the Gulf of Mexico, running at 98%, which is the highest rate in 30 years, running refined refineries at a higher rate at higher capacity than that risk damaging the equipment he says as such Biden isn't just wrong. He insulted some of the hardest working people operating in one of the most dangerous industries in all of America. It Biden wants more American fuel. He should build new refineries. He says, right, but Biden is doing the exact opposite on May 12th Biden's interior department blocked a proposal to open up more than 1 million acres of land in Alaska for oil and gas in it, drilling, and you're telling me this isn't being done on purpose. The left's mission is to crush you. They want a society filled with useful idiots. They want a society of people that they can control and unfortunately even when they lose the left seems to get their way. But we have to fight back. We have to defeat these fools, not only in November, but for the next generation. We have to.
BBB Includes Major Investments in Housing Affordability
"There is in the House version of the build back better Bill, a $170 billion for affordable housing and homo SAP. I've spent much of the show today replaying my interview from Friday's podcast with Michael shellenberger, the author of San Francisco, why progressives run cities a man of the left, he studied homelessness in Seattle, Portland, San Francisco and LA, it would be a disaster. The problem will only get worse if that money is passed by the Senate, where is the build back better version of the bill right now in the Senate, Jake Sherman? Well, a few things to note, I have to imagine that housing money will be in there that's very important to progressives and very little as we've discussed very little going to change in the Senate. But here's what I would say. Kirsten sinema and Joe Manchin are both saying both of them that they don't believe this bill is going to pass until 2022 and that's probably 22 and that's all you need to know because they are the key here. And if whatever they say goes, I would say that is as simple as it is. So at some point pretty soon, Chuck Schumer is going to have to contend with that reality and kind of get wrapped his head around what's next. Now, on the other hand, there's a lot of uncertainty about what will end up in this bill. Number one, the immigration provisions, you are just all are just very uncertain at this point. And I have to imagine that in the next couple of days, maybe a week we will hear from the parliamentarian nonpartisan kind of balls and strikes arbiter of what can be in a reconciliation bill about what could go in. So that is kind of what we're looking at this week when it comes to BBB.
"michael shellenberger" Discussed on Mike Gallagher Podcast
"European city and clean Amsterdam that the way they deal with this is you have to arrest addicts who break the law. If you're shoplifting to support your drug habit, you need to be arrested. This is something that everybody knows. And drug intervention. And Michael, if I may, that position can extend to the protests we saw after the death of George Floyd. We saw entire neighborhoods burned to the ground. We saw buildings being burned to the ground on the guys of racial justice. I mean, it's mind boggling to me how America was sort of numb to the violence that and we still are seen. I mean, go to Portland, Seattle these days. I mean, it's still crazy. It's not as bad as it was in the summer of 2020 following George Floyd's death, but again, that mindset, which is just why I can't wait to read your book because you explore that victimhood status that is afforded a two criminals. People that are doing terrible things violent acts. We've been reading about there was a guy that just killed a woman in Times Square a mugger. He was out, of course, on. There was no bond, no bail, he was out. You know, just bonded right out. Incarceration period. These are violent, violent criminals. So somehow progressives have lost the argument that we've got to reform our criminal justice system while granting victimhood status upon many, many violent people, and that's something that isn't sustainable. Michael shellenberger is our guest. He's a journalist and author, his new book, San Francisco, why progressives ruin cities is out today. And I urge you to get it. Michael, I'm always fascinated by the journey that all of us have ideological journey if you will. You said 20 years ago, you worked for George Soros. To the right, he's the boogeyman. To the left, I don't know, the Koch brothers or the boogeyman. I mean, everybody's got wealthy people on opposite sides of the political spectrum that we like to vilify do you mind? Helping me understand your journey and sharing with me your take on George Soros being attributable to so many things that are going wrong in American cities. Yeah, sure. I mean, I'm a very sensitive person actually. And so I'm a bit of a bleeding heart. Liberal, I really have a hard time seeing people living on the streets. At the same time, I've always been somewhat street savvy and realistic. I've spent time in countries in war. My last book apocalypse never was about being in a very dangerous violent country. So I've always been comfortable talking to people in any situation. And it was always obvious that the people living on the streets who we miss identify as homeless are suffering from drug addiction and often mental illness. And so I never had the rose colored glasses on that issue. But the original concern in the 90s was just that we, you know, we went really far in one direction, which is that we gave really long prison sentences for some crimes that really merited things like probation or shorter senses or rehab. So when I stopped working on this issue, 20 years ago, my understanding was that we were going to mandate drug treatment to addicts. That's obvious. But we didn't do that. They just went too far in the direction that nothing should be required of people who they view as victims. It makes a lot of sense. Michael shellenberger, his book is out and today San Francisco and my entire interview with Michael, available on our podcast, subscribe now at Mike online dot com. When the my pillow takes line, one 806 5 5 Mike. I want to share with you that I've done something that I can pretty well promise you that almost nobody else in my audience has done. I've shot across the table with the guy who formulated the process behind balance of nature. Doctor Douglas Howard an incredible guy. He's a doctor, a professor, a scientist. He's one of the most brilliant health experts I've ever met. I know him. When he described to me, his 20 year journey that resulted in one of the most powerful supplements on the market today, I knew I had to start taking it. You probably never have the privilege of meeting doctor Howard in person, perhaps, but you can make the same decision I made. Get those ten daily servings from 31 different fruits and veggies all derived from doctor Howard's proprietary process. Believe me, when I say balance of nature, is the real deal. All new preferred customers of balancing nature will get an additional 35% discount and free shipping on your first balance of nature order,.
"michael shellenberger" Discussed on Mike Gallagher Podcast
"I'm going on Tucker Carlson tonight to talk about why we need nuclear to save the planet. I'm sorry if that triggers you, but it's the right thing to do. Dear conservative Friends, please watch Tucker Carlson tonight. I got to imagine living there in Berkeley in the belly of the beast. There aren't a lot of people real fond of you appearing on Tucker Carlson's show on Fox News. Yeah, my progressive Friends for some reason. I'm not sure I totally understand they really hate it when I talk to conservatives like Tucker Carlson. Or my contrast my conservative Friends don't have any trouble when I talk to liberal hosts. So funny how that works. That's the part of the religious fervor. I mean, I think there's a kind of religious idea behind it. For me, politics is politics. It's a place where you should have conversations with people you disagree with. Frankly, I have the same view of my spirituality in my religion. I also think it's interesting to talk to people I don't agree with, but somehow there's a dog a dogmatism has set in and that really involves a demonization of people that progressives don't agree with. I see happened to me people demonize me. And it's immature and it's destructive of our country. I wrote San Francisco in part because I wanted to find some common ground. I think I do at the end I talk about the need to balance responsibility and freedom. We need to take care of people, but love is not all you need. The Beatles were wrong about that. You also need discipline, you need hard work, some boundaries. You need some, you need to protect our public parks, our public sidewalks should belong to all of us, not to homeless drug addicts, not to people that we call victims. This shouldn't be that difficult. I do talk to a lot of Democrats who, when you kind of lay it out for them and make it clear, I do think that they are more sensible. And we find 70 to 80% support for the kind of policies that we advocate, including mandatory drug treatment as an alternative to prison. But it shouldn't just all be voluntary. You should not be able to use hard drugs on the sidewalk. It's not what they do in Europe. It's not what they do in the great liberal cities of Europe or Asia. It's not what we should be doing here. Your experience reminds me of something I say all the time on this show, the left is a lot less tolerant and the right is a lot more tolerant than we ever seem to recognize. Michael shellenberger, I hope the book is a big hit. Everybody should get it. San Francisco San Francisco, why progressives ruin cities? It's out today. Michael, thanks very much for taking the time to join us. Here on the mic Gallagher show, all the best. Thanks for having me, Mike, thank you..
"michael shellenberger" Discussed on Mike Gallagher Podcast
"Michael shellenberger has co edited and written a number of books, including breakthrough from the death of environmentalism to the politics of possibility. He's the founder and president of environmental progress. It's an independent nonpartisan research organization based in Berkeley, California for many of us, the belly of the beast, Berkeley. And his new book is coming out called San Francisco, why progressives ruin cities? Michael, thanks very much for joining us. It's nice to see you. Nice to have you. And I used to have you on the program. Thanks for having me, Mike, good to be back. Thank you. Let's talk about just from the title of the book and I can't wait to read it. Why progressives ruin cities? I spend a pretty good amount of time in New York City. And I'm watching people get bonded out, no jail time. I'm seeing people criminals roaming the streets. I mean, for many, it's a throwback to the horrible era when crime was rampant in big American cities. These policies of the far left are ruining American cities and San Francisco is a perfect place to start. It's a beautiful, unique. Iconic American city, what the left has done to that city is almost impossible to fathom, but you write about it extensively in your book. Tell us about it. Yeah, well, as you know, we're in the midst of the worst drug crisis that America has ever seen really the world has ever seen. I actually worked for George Soros and Maxine waters over 20 years ago to help liberalize drug policies. I did so because I was worried about the disproportionate impact of mass incarceration on people of color, African Americans in particular. But when I left that movement 20 years ago, I thought that the that we would get drug treatment for people that were suffering addiction, well, that didn't happen. What we've done in California and many other progressive states and cities is basically to remove all consequences of behavior. So now we see 93,000 people died of drug overdoses and drug poisonings last year. That's a 5 fold increase from the year 2000. We have massive open drug scenes, which are euphemistically referred to as homeless camps, but really it's something like a 100% of the people in those camps are suffering from drug addiction. Basically, wildly out of control, we had a big increase in homicides last year because there was a big pullback of police. So we've been demonizing the police who are proven to be effective at reducing homicide that's not a controversial statement at all. Police are necessary for reducing homicides. And so what we've seen is basically a kind of victim ideology take over the left. The idea of empowerment is gone. It's now the idea that some people can be categorized as victims. And once they're categorized as victims, then they're allowed to do anything, including break laws, destroy cities and really end up dying on the streets. You know, I don't want to beat a dead horse here, but images we've seen of brazen shoplifters marching into drug stores and convenience stores with trash bags and just clearing the shelves and walking out sort of daring anybody to stop them. It's happening in every aspect of American life right now. In fact, in the condo building I live in in the Tampa Bay Florida area, a guy walked into the garage was caught on camera, stealing a mountain bike that was locked up, I think, and he cut the chain and they saw him and they went out to confront him and he let loose with a bunch of racial epithets and all kinds of things to the people that were asking him to stop. And he walked out and as it turned out, they were our staff was instructed not to confront anybody just call the police, let them do it. Because this is sort of the mind set right now. As you put it, victimhood, victim status, and, you know, I keep thinking about gears back, Giuliani's broken windows policy in New York with the concept being if you fix the windows in a building the value of the building goes up. If you let the shoplifting, the bike steelers, the muggings, these quality of life crimes we keep seeing day in and day out with increasing alarming regularity, you're going to lose our society. Am I right to kind of connect those dots, Michael has the same thing happened in San Francisco as well? Yeah, that's right. I mean, basically, victimology, victim ideology has become a new religion. You know, we've had a declining belief in the United States and traditional religions for the last hundred years. I think it's accelerated, particularly in ostensibly secular places like the San Francisco Bay Area, but people need religions, they need a higher power to believe in. And so what we've turned to is a kind of worship of victims, and we've it's honestly it's a racist ideology because it claims that all black people are victims. That's absurd, not all black people are victims. And not only that, but the status of being a victim is temporary. It's part of what you experience on the way to becoming a hero. So we should have much more of a heroic story about it overcoming depression. I mean, that's what it used to be when we talked about people like Martin Luther King and Nelson Mandela and Gandhi. These were people that overcame oppression, those used to be the heroes of progressives, but now progressives worship the victim status. It's part of the radical left. It's dates back to the late 60s as you might imagine. There was this idea in the late 60s and a condemnation of this idea that you should never blame the victim. And that sounds good. Like, why would you hold somebody responsible for something that's out of their control? But what we know is with all sorts of other things, including having a job going to school going to work, not doing drugs, not becoming a drug addict. These are things in our control. Obviously, the life is hard, but there's become a kind of coddling culture, a sort of spoiling, and that's related to basically the over prescription of opioid drugs, which occurred in the late 90s, early 2000s. When we pulled back on those prescriptions around 2010, a lot of people turned to heroin. We've also been dealing with a big meth epidemic, and we know that the way to deal with these drug addiction problems, the same way that every European city, every progressive European city and clean Amsterdam, that the way they deal with this is you have to arrest addicts who break the law. If you're shoplifting to support your drug habit, you need to be arrested. This is something everybody knows. And drug intervention. And Michael,.
"michael shellenberger" Discussed on C-SPAN Radio
"The reality of the extensive extension. Is still to be determined in whatever or maybe never in human time scales. What do you do? So such a herring after the Serengeti areas were cities are encroaching and important landscapes. The Amazon No. We've already just foiled our North American. Region so fantastically and so it's hard for us to cite. You should do this, but You got. Let's talk about the Amazon. You get had some time on the ground in Brazil. We do have both an arrow to power down, which is changed. Some dynamics is just sort of like saying The Amazons. Not Bernie. As much as it did in 1990 days is not the end point. So what do we do now? What's the role of Trade policy. What's the role of remote sensing? What's the role of empowering the indigenous communities? Right? Yeah, well, I mean, I think the first thing I'm trying to do in both the Amazon and then, of course, the other place That's not a lot of time is the Albertine rift, which is where the mountain gorillas ours. Freebie Homo SAPIENs of evolves both a very special places in the book, and they run through the book. The first thing I'm just trying to do is to show that the degradation, the degradation of natural environments and the killing of species and the rest of extinction are not being carried out by evil people who hate nature. It's often being carried out by people that are desperately poor poor in ways that The young people who are alarmed by polar bears and plastic straws have no understanding of and you I know, understand it cause you go to those places, So the first thing I wanted to apply, this number is to bring My kids and kids. My daughter's age. 14 15 16 wonder, writing really simple stories, characters and show what their struggles are. And so you see in the Amazon chapter. I just object to this kind of elitist, literally looking down, flying over the Amazon condemning the people on the ground. What they're doing these air desperately poor people. I lived in communities of former slaves or I'm sorry. The Children of former slaves the grant of the descendants of former slaves in Brazil. Point out that, Yeah, I mean, there's there's certainly we would all like this all else being equal. We would like the Amazon forest to be intact. You know all those speed equal. I don't want any temperature change on Earth. We've adapted to this temperature but also is not equal. You know, there's still two billion really poor people. So that's the first thing the second thing I think it's so important. Had my my main character on the Amazon who now regrets having spoken to me because he spoke so freely, and I know you know him very well too. Damn, That's sad. He spoke so freely with me because he was upset as I was by the media coverage, saying it's the ones of the world He revealed. This important thing, which is that in demanding small is beautiful conservation measures. Greenpeace forced the fragmentation of parts of the Amazon forest that should never have occurred. So what we know is that if you want if you want to produce more food on less land, you need to concentrate agricultural production. You need to intensify it. Well, that should happen in the Savannah region, which is none of this had had, which is in this southern south of the Amazon forest. It's actually much more productive for agriculture. It's less file diverse, fewer college. Just think that it's the same as the Amazon for us that would then allow you to protect more of the Amazon. But Greenpeace insisted The farmers maintain half of their land in forest isn't creating these forest islands that make it more difficult for apex predators like the cats to move between them. I think that was a very, very important finding. Now, if I could skip if I go over to the Albertine rift in Africa might be some of the heroes of that chapter. We're also conservation scientists who have been working with oil companies. To develop oil safely in national parks, so that could be used as a substitute for would fuel would fuel is the worst fuel. It's the fuel that disrupts for us life. It Z Americans. We tend to pay attention to the millions of you who die from breathing toxic smoke, but the people that used to feel what they complained about the time it takes Of course, the impact on forest is devastating to have hundreds of thousands of people going through the forest, eating wild animals and using the wood Michael Shellenberger Subtitles whose book why environmental alarmism hurts us all. So in both cases, I do think I'm arguing for a moderate view. Which is to intensify our culture in the savannas of the Brazil and Tol allow some some extractive industry, particularly for petroleum in the Albertine rift so that people can be liberated from what his fuel Now I wrote the book, in part because if I just want to say on CNN or MSNBC, I think there should be oil drilling. In for a room. The National park I would be. I mean, I would be crucified for that. But once you read this book, I think it's very hard to read Chapter four, which is the chapter about species extinction and leave that chapter and think. That somehow that it's wrong. How could it be wrong? I mean, I knew that l the Americans and Europeans that are there flew there on jet planes and enjoy a petroleum. Howard lifestyle so and in the idea that petroleum drilling even in the Amazon, or that in these parks is worse than would fuel is also wrong would feel is just massively worse for the natural environment and getting some oil out of the ground. So I think in in in sort of making that moderate case that's what I'm arguing from are arguing that there is a way to balance development and conservation. But we do need to have some appreciation of the importance of moving up the energy ladder and of the importance of growing more food unless lancer concentrated agriculture Yeah, I did a lot of reporting on cooking fuel A couple of years ago when I was at Propublica, and it was there, the issue was antipathy. In a lot of European thunders to supporting projects without being natural gas. Propane LPG, which is a side project after gas production and The is levels of hypocrisy. Here's that are unbelievable, normally has a oil for development programs that they fund to help countries and my Ghana. What about their A levels more practically, and so they won't spend money. You helped bring LPG two communities. They're stuck burning wood, and I said, I'm with you on these levels of democracy. And double speak and clashing agendas. It's around us in many different dimensions. Let's go. I want to talk briefly about population. And growth. No, the white this 10 years ago, I wrote a piece of my daughter's blocked at the times, actually, 12 years ago, drawing on a demographer just if Sami's working on Jesse L. Suppose, work and It's just, he noted that the old model the population bomb is we both know who's total physical. But I called it a population.
"michael shellenberger" Discussed on Biz Talk Radio
"Michael Shellenberger is the founder of Environmental Progress and co founder of Breakthrough Institute. He believes Newsome is off base with this mandate. I mean, this is nuts. We've never created new technologies by banning existing ones. We didn't get jet planes by banning propeller airplanes. 2% of all new car sold were electric cars. They're just really expensive. They have all the problems Everybody's aware of. You know this. If you were designing a policy to hurt poor and working people, this would be it. California's electricity rates went up six times more than in the rest of the United States. Since 2011 we had electricity shortages a few weeks ago. If you were to add our entire transportation center and make it electrical, you would shut down the entire transportation sector when we're running out of electricity, So it's nuts. This is just pure politics. As more and more people are requesting absentee ballots. There's been numerous mistakes on absentee ballots in New York City, some like sewer, complaining that ballots have the wrong names and incorrect return labels on them. This mistake could invalidate the ballot. What about the people who've already sent in their ballots? Who didn't notice to look? Look for this? That audio courtesy of NBC News for Yusa Radio News. I'm Timberg now. Leland the Bitcoin. Welcome to the big coin from Boomer recorded live in Arlington, Texas, at the TV studio. I'm your host Jerry Leland, affectionately known as the Bitcoin, Boomer and welcome to Episode one of season one Like instead of the Bitcoin for boomers show, I'm an advocate of Bitcoin. I really think it's a life changing world changing technology. That's come along, and we're going to do this show to try to teach you Maur about Bitcoin. As a boomer, You may not be as well educated on Bitcoin as you'd like. But the thing is, boomers control the majority of wealth in this country between her for a one case and our retirement programs. We actually control most of the wealth and There's a tidal wave coming called Bitcoin. And I want to educate you on what Bitcoin is. I'm not a technical advisor. I'm not a financial advisor. But I do know a lot about Bitcoin and I am invested in Bitcoin and I really think a lot about Bitcoin, so that's going to be the goal. Of this show. Now, if you want to follow me, you can follow me on Twitter. Gary Leland. And and keep up with what I do produce a lot of Ah, a lot of post there about Bitcoin boy said. We just want to bring you this show and give you an idea of what Bitcoin is. What it can do for you and how to take advantage of like I said, This tidal wave is coming through the financial markets. You see the turmoil out there. You see the money being printed. You see what's happening to the dollar right now? I'm sure and you have questions. Most people don't know that much about Bitcoin. You may have heard of it. You may Think things that aren't true about Bitcoin during these 12 CES shows in the first season, we shouldn't lay all of those things the wrist and answer all those questions for you. As to what Bitcoin is. Like I said, I just can't say it. Enough Bitcoin Bitcoin bit cooling. You need to learn about Bitcoin. You don't have to get in it right now. You don't have to be invested tomorrow, but there's gonna come a time. When you're going to see Bitcoin skyrocketing, I believe And when that time comes, it sure would be nice to know what's happening and what Bitcoin is. That's my thoughts on the situation. Now we're gonna come back with segment one in a few minutes..
"michael shellenberger" Discussed on Biz Talk Radio
"806 10 57 39 offers required of obligation. 24 month commitment determination. The restrictions apply call for details. When it comes to wildfires across California, Oregon Washington State. What is the cause to these fires? Is that global warming? Is it forest mismanagement? Or is it a combination of both? Well, the truth lies somewhere in the Middle California has warmed approximately three degrees over the last century Forage mismanagement plays a part as well as Democratic governor from California, Gavin Newsom admitted on Monday. Michael Shellenberger is president of the environmental Progress. He also has a new book out titled Apocalypse. Never He joins Fox News and says for in the research for Apocalypse never interviewed most of the top California forest scientists and what they really emphasises that there's two kinds of forests. One of which we don't have enough fires, and we actually needed more of the smaller prescribed burns or controlled burns. We haven't been doing that for 120 years, and so the Woodfield been building up. That's why the fires were so intense. That's why there's so much smoke in San Francisco. And then there's another kind of fire the shrub land fires. We want less fires in and that's mostly been having to do with more people and more electrical wires, which they failed to maintain for many decades because we've been focused on other things like building renewables. Also, according to Jennifer Bulk, director of the Earth Lab at the University of Colorado, she says at 93% of the fires started in California were started by humans. Find us online at USA radio dot com. Ford use a radio news I'm Timberg. Most of us like to be out in the sun. That's my sunscreen.
"michael shellenberger" Discussed on 600 WREC
"Of False Alarm, president of the Copenhagen Consensus Center, visiting fellow from the Hoover Institution. I believe he was part of our first climate special that we did at CNN back when CNN actually would have opposing views on kind of It took everything in them. The letters do that special But I am somebody who I I own property out west in the mountains. I believe in the environment. I Love trees. I love animals, and I want to keep our our water and our air clean and pure. I don't know of anybody who doesn't care about that. I'm sure they exist. But I don't know anybody who doesn't care about that. The problem seems to be with taking the climate change attitude and then applying it into an emergency panic. Everybody's going to die quickly. And so we have to do this. Well, What should we do beyond Lemberg is joining us now. You are And how are you, sir? I'm good. How are you? I'm very good. So we wanted to. Ah, We wanted to talk to you about a couple of things. The alarm is, um, but first who? Who is this book targeted, too? I don't know. I talk, a lot of people and very many people really, really worried about global warming, and especially their kids, a word about global warming. You know, lots of kids are saying, Why should I study if there's no future for me because And that certainly is what we're being told. A new survey showed that almost half of the entire global population now believes That global warming will lead to the extinction of the human and that is simply crazy. Look, global warming is a real problem is something we should fix it. We need to get a sense of proportion. The U. N climate panel tells us that by the 2000 seventies, the impact of global warming will be equivalent to somewhere between 0.2 and 2% reduction in your average income. Remember by then you and I expect there will be 2.5 times richer. So instead of being 2.5 times, Richard will be likely lesson 2.5 times richer by 2007. That's a problem. That's not the end of the world. So this book is really to all the people go worried. And, of course, all the people they know we'll worried and telling you, it's a problem, not the end of the world. So you're kind of in the category of Michael Shellenberger that Except you're probably more in line with the I P. C. C. You take those reports as as gospel and say, Look, we're just going to accept this as fact. But then you look for the things that we we can do. That will actually make a difference. Would you put yourself kind of in Michael Shellenberger Sze kind of place. Oh, sure, sure. Andi, I think there's a lot of people in that camp. Because honestly, what That means is you take what the science is telling us. There is a problem. But then you also insist we need to look at the economics. Of climate change and actually take the best science there. And most people don't remember. I take my starting point in the guy who actually got the on ly Nobel Prize. In climate economics, William Nordhaus from Yale University and, he says, has to almost everyone in climate economics that there is a real problem with climate change. So probably in the order 3 to 4% GDP by the end of the century. That means if you can fix a substantial part for a low cost That's a good idea, but it's crazy to try to fix a 3 to 4% problem by incurring policies that will cost 15 to 30% of your GDP. And and that's what you're mean. You did an article in USA Today. Climate Change, Democratic alarmism leads to failing policies. Can you take us through that? Yeah. So look, the Democrats have a good intention there playing out Look, there's a real problem, but then they go on to say and much to Noah's. You should point it out. They believe that this is going to lead to the end of the world in 10 years. And that's just not the case. If it was the case, if this was a leech or hurtling towards Earth, the only thing you should be doing would be to worry about global warming. You just throw everything in the kitchen thinking correct. Send up Bruce Willis and everybody else, you know, fix that. Medial. What reality is This is a minor problem. It's not a zero problem. It's a 3 to 4% problem over the next eight years, and so the risk and what they're clearly suggesting is you know, we should have no new gasoline cars by 2035 Fossil fuels in power sector in 2040 basically get the US to net zero, so emit no new You two in 2050. That is going to be phenomenally expensive. Remember, we only have one estimate that actually shows how costly that will be. So what's nations have promised on Ly one nation was brave enough to actually ask. So how much is that gonna cost? That was New Zealand. So no left wing New Zealand actually asked. How much is this going to cost them? Their preeminence estimate? Wass. This is going to cost us at least. 16% of our GDP more likely around 30 present. Oh, my God, that for the U. S is equivalent to paying 5 to $10 trillion every year. Remember, that's more than what the entire national of the federal budget is. Right now. Every year. It's twice that a five trillion is Twice the revenues of the United States of America. So you tax it's twice the revenues just for that, and and remember, it would not fix all the warming. It would slightly produced the impact because most of the problem from global warming does not actually come from rich countries because we've already You sort of peaked and were increasingly going towards just producing services, which emits very little CIA, too. But most of the rest of the world so China, India, Africa, Latin America. Still want to get rich. They want to get to where we are today, and they will mostly be able to do that by using much more cheap and readily available energy and try and telling them I'm sorry. You can't do what we did Unbelievable. Right? You'll just have to stay poor. Yeah, it's it's It's absolutely irresponsible. But you're not talking about when you talk to global warming people. The zealots. You can't get them to talk about nuclear energy, The cleanest and the safest energy out there. You can't get them to talk about that. You can't talk to them about. Let's help Africa grow to be a richer and a you know an industrial nation and go through the industrial revolution, but in a clean way, we can help them. Get into the 21st century by giving them power. Nobody wants to. Nobody wants to help them. Ah, get richer and live our kind of lifestyle. They're trying to just bring everybody down. To their lifestyle instead of bringing them up to our lifestyle. There's certainly a lot of truth. I actually find that when you confront most people with us, especially well meaning sort of left leaning people. They also want that. And so you expose in some way, a very clear Ah twist in their minds between on the one side. They want to help African the world's poor, but they also want to fix global warming. And of course, what insult is very often..
"michael shellenberger" Discussed on 600 WREC
"What did solve a very large part of the air pollution problem Essentials Most the catalytic converter. It was an innovation that you put in your car and then basically it prevents a lot less. Has a cost, but it's an okay cost compared to the immense benefit you get. The trick here is to recognize if we can innovate the price of green energy down below fossil fuels. We can solve global warming. But as long as we keep telling everyone in the special in China and India and Africa I'm sorry. You just got to be poor because we can't actually make you rich. While you don't admit a lot more to back, never gonna work. What we need to do is to invest a lot more in innovation to get green energy to be cheaper than fossil fuels. Once we reach that everyone will switch not just rich, well, meaning Americans. It also Latin America, Africa everybody else and so you point to be, Ah, hydrogen car That may very well be the solution. Remember there lots of people out there who believe that they know what is going to power the rest of 21st century and all of them are still too expensive Hydrogen car included. But the point is, we should invest a lot more in the research of those because we just need one or a few of those technologies. And those are the ones in power. The 20%. I mean, everything changes when we could get the right battery. Everything changes. Andi, we should be working. We should be spending all of our money on on research in batteries and then looking for things like hydrogen cars. That could be coupled with those batteries. And then the problem is is solved. I I don't understand how people can block every single thing. And then Teo say wind power, which is so far away from reality. The land alone that it would take just to build enough wind windmills for a third of our energy need would be a third of the country. Almost. It's ridiculous. And I mean, you're so full of common sense. If this was the green energy movement. What used talk about here was the green Energy movement. We would all be in lock step, but I gotta believe that You have been called a climate denier in science denier every step of the way as well, Even though you're not disagreeing with any of their science. Oh, of course, A lot of people find it a lot easier to argue by just calling me names and actually engaged in this conversation. And of course, the real surprise is, if you really, really worried about global warming. Why would you be proposing the same solutions have failed the last 30 years. If you really think this is the end of the world is not a smart move off course you need to find better ways to fix us. I would probably be a little bit more technology agnostic than you are because obviously, some people believe very much in batteries. Some people believe very much in hydrogen cars. Other people like Craig Mentor, the guy who cracked the human genome back in 2000 parking that we should put out the algae on the ocean surface that grow oil from sunlight and few to how cool would that be. We basically be able to keep our entire fossil fuel economy, but we power it with oil that we just produced and has BC to neutral again there lots to be all of them are not cost effective right now, which is why they haven't taken over the world. But the point is research and development can make that difference, and it just needs to make it difference. For one of these many technologies most more fail, that's fine. We just need one or a few of them to come through, and that's why I think we need to challenge people who are very, very worried and tell us we're going to spend true ings of your money. Ineffective solutions. No, Look, you have the right problem, but you're fixing it badly and your wasteful with the money. Let's do it smartly through innovation and make sure that we actually find something the lot just work for rich well, meaning Americans. For everyone on the planet. It's socialism the way to go. Will that help? Well, clearly, it's not. I mean, I think we've already sort of found out. We need some sort of manage capitalism as we move from post countries in the world, But the idea is to recognize what solves most problems. It is not wringing your hands or making command dictates on what you need to do. It is innovation. Think Back in the 19 seventies, we worried about the fact that there would be almost no food for India and Africa. The solution was not to help people worked world I'm sorry, could just stop eating so much and send it to the Indians. The solution was the green revolution that we found a way to make much more food much cheaper, much more effectively for Indians, which is why India today. I've not had a huge hunger catastrophe, naturally the world's leading exporter race because of innovation instead of just telling people you're doomed, and we got to do with left, and also I would add silencing of people with dissenting opinions. We need everybody thinking and working and being free. To be able to work on their own style solutions. Because it could come from somebody we least expect, Bjorn lumbered. Thank you very much. The name of the book has false alarm. How climate change panic cost US trillions hurts the poor and fails to fix the planet. These books that are coming out by Bjarne and also by Michael Shellenberger. They need to be read to your teenagers. You need to give them to your teenagers. Because your teenagers are being filled with all kinds of despair. And the truth is that despair is a lie beyond Bjorn. Thank you so much. We'll talk again. 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"michael shellenberger" Discussed on 600 WREC
"It's magic. It's going to go in the magic. It's a miracle and all of those things, but all of those should we go back through Nancy Pelosi talk telling everyone to go to China Town in the middle of the freaking panda. We should all nobody will. Yes, we should. Some have more than others, but almost Everybody has statements from February and March that are bad. They're beginning. Nobody. They're not nearly as bad as like an Andrew Cuomo. Who has, you know 15,000 of these types of statements. What are your thoughts on Andrew Palmer? How much time do you have that I'd like to get into that, but you know, it's It's fascinating to see that because it has nothing to you. The idea that what they're doing is trusting the science or trusting the experts isn't even accurate, right? Right? Like they think they pick the ones that they agree with him at that time. You know they were They will be absolutely if Ouchy comes out tomorrow and says, You know what we need to I mean. They were talking about this in the World Health Organization came out and said, What we need to do is avoid avoid full shutdowns. Like everything we conducive to avoid full shutdowns we should do which makes sense. The World Health Organization said that Yeah, but but that that now the World Health organization doesn't agree with what they want. So now they can disregard that it's not about listening to experts is listening to them. That is the bottom line here. Anybody who happens to get expert that aligns with them. They will be in the shining light for a certain amount of time. And then when they start disagreeing, they will go away and they will become, they will become quacks again. It's the exact same thing with climate change and the Michael Shellenberger. I mean, they don't want to listen to him at all anymore. He's a cook now. And a complete He's a quack 40 year environmental activist. Yeah, the guy who's been working who's a guy who literally went to support and see the Sandinistas. I mean, this is a super liberal guy Socialist back in the day. Yeah. Super liberal, progressive his whole life and look at the evidence and said, You know what? Oh, gosh. None of it's catastrophic. It's not catastrophic. There's a happening. Yes, it's not catastrophic sits a problem. He thinks these things we should do about it, but not catastrophic. Stop trying to scare everyone and stuff. Trying to spend trillions of dollars on it because it's not necessary. In fact, according and he goes to what I love about that book, which is called Apocalypse, Never write. What I love about it is he goes to the sources that everybody's sites for the apocalypse and finds out. That's not what they're saying at all. It's really amazing how often He was able to find Shellenberger because Bjorn Lomborg just came out with a book. That was kind of on the same that both of those books as brothers and sisters are fantastic. Both of you should get Because you'll go back and refer to him 100 times or you're talking to your friends about the climate. But Shellenberger, in particular was able to take thes things that have been permeated the media calling claims about the climate and go and not on Ly just say, Actually, this is what the report says, are actually This is ah, This is what the truth is, which is really valuable. He was able to go to the scientists to the very source who supposedly said it and interview them and then have them. Tell Shellenberger they were misquotes. I can't recommendable Kylie enough. It's incredible test. It really is incredible. It's an incredible of, you know, and and look. This is why it's it's. It's sold well, but it's being ignored by the mainstream media. There's a guy who was a teller there, not challenge him on this stuff. The first time I ever heard of Michael Shellenberger was when he was in a documentary for CNN. Yeah, that's what he was on CNN in the documentary. Now he's he's the enemy. And his his main point in there is because he's been hearing so often any sick and tired of hearing it because it's scaring the crap out of Children worldwide like Greta Fun. Burg, for instance, who's scared out of her mind and running around screaming at the sky is falling and he's try to tell them No, it isn't falling. The sky is not falling. So his is one of his big things is that there's no such thing as this apocalypse or this. Extinction event. With humankind, its just not happening. Not in 10 years, not in 20 years, not 100 years. Nobody's predicting that And yet last week or the week before, Joe, Biden said, tells us we have nine years. Before the damage is irreversible. It's not what it says They don't sit down both of those books. They don't say that. No, they don't say that at all. You know, there's another claim that 187 million people Are going to be underwater. If we don't do anything about global warming, and when you look at that, you're like cash. That's wow. That would be that's a lot of people really bad, terrible problem with The problem with this is going to rise all at once and envelope, Everybody you know or thinks about these things right? Then just say it 187 million people. Longboard goes through this and do not move before now. That's exactly what they say that there is a paper that says 187 million people will be underwater. And what it says is if humans don't adapt in anyway, so okay right now, Large swaths of the area they're talking about, are already quote unquote underwater there below sea level, right? So, but what they've done is adapted the society so people can live their right if water like the Netherlands, another shambles than he does. And he talked about how you could spend $100 trillion on climate to try to adjust the temperature enough to make this happen. And it still wouldn't happen for multiple decades. Or you could spend $20 billion on you know a different way of flood. Ah, apparatus that would make the flood not happen, Which is, of course, what everyone does right if you if you have If you had a house on the beach, and there was erosion and the and the water level is rising, you might raise your sea wall by a foot. I think that's what people do in those situations. Another one pet they have, and these are the Ah go back to the to finish off on the flooding thing. 187 million people would have to flood. They say if people take basic Measures in this in the report that everyone is putting. If people take basic measures. It's more like 300,000 over the next, like 50 years. No. Okay, 300,000 over 50 years is, I guess is somewhat significant, right? I guess you could still say it's a few 1000 a year. However, when you look at that, with the accompanying Improvements when you don't spend $100 trillion on climate, and instead you spend it on things that make people healthy and more and stronger buildings and better structures and maybe some.
"michael shellenberger" Discussed on #hottakeoftheday
"That's making your world worse in the to think about everything in terms of you know. Sometimes, it makes sense to preserve an animal. Sometimes you need to kill an animal to survive and I think it's the so you can think about what's happened. I think generally the philosophy I have toward these things where we should have a human centered view of a relationship with nature, I think that was the predominant philosophy in this country for a long time and I think starting in. In the sixty s that started to be blended with a very different philosophy, which says that our relationship with the rest of nature should be to impact it as little as possible, even if that hurts us and I think most people have a blend, so they think okay, well. Sometimes we want a better benefit humans, and sometimes we want to minimize impact, but I think in practice. The minimal impact is really dominating are thinking is one example I think about a lot of this is. Three billion people in the world have virtually no energy I. mean you and I know how fundamental energy is to human beings ability to produce, and therefore to to flourish, and yet we talk about energy all the time and yet nobody talks about three billion people have almost no energy, all the people in poverty, and yet when we talk about energy we, we hear all kinds of stories about older bears, an or use of energies disrupting this. This polar bear, and this, and all of this all almost fabricated, but that's sort of beside the point. Why is there so little concern for billions of human beings ability to get energy, and they're so much concern for a very remote disruption of nature and I, in and my favorite animal that serious, but even so it's there's something often I think it's because our standard is minimizing our impact leaving nature unchanged. I think it's an anti human. Scanner I think that's come to dominate, so so how do you? How do you balance that I, mean you? You are are certainly I would. I would call you the preeminent. Certainly author of this concept of the case from for fossil fuels, and and certainly from a human suffering from we need energy from a trade offs from a three billion people in poverty. When when you have intellectual Iran lead conversations with people who are predominantly on the left, and would might support the polar bears more so than human lives. How do you engage with? With them and do you? Do you ever bring them over to your side or like? It seems right now. People are so anchored in on fossil fuels are good or fossil fuels are bad, and there's no other rational conversation, so so talk to me about some of those interactions. You've had any success. You've had pulling people into sort of this concept of trade, offs. I find that a lot of a lot of success I don't think there are certain I think there are certain ideas that people have that are foundational that are very hard to change so religion I think is maybe the hardest kind of thing to change. sort of political party can be quite hard like if you WanNa say if somebody's a Democrat and that's their identity can be hard to shift them. these environmental things I don't think are as as. As fixed as as people might might think seem that way and I think part of it is. The people don't really know what the ideas what they really mean. So if if you think about this idea of minimizing our impact, being green sort of everyone that that's a very popular idea, but people don't really think they don't really hold it as we really. Really. Want to minimize our impact. We really don't want to impact anything. We want to leave nature unchanged. The they that's that's the view of the leaders. The bill mckibben of the world. The Paul Erlich, said the weather. I they really do want to radically reduce the human population, but most people think of minimal impact. They really think of it as minimizing pollution. and. Or minimizing sort of callous destruction of beautiful species or something, and so part of the point I try to make when I say a human perspective on the world, it doesn't mean I want to destroy everything or turn it into parking lot and certainly doesn't want to be pollution. Be, pro, I wanNA. Be Pro Development, anti-pollution and pro, enjoying nature, and those are all part of a human centered view and I think that when I can make that clear, then people say yeah, like I want that and a good example of this by the way just interviewed him on my podcast last week. There's a guy named Michael. Shellenberger who just had a book called? Apocalypse never, and he and I. If anyone is interested in this. He and I had a kind of extended discussion, and he's very, you know his motto is something like nature and prosperity for. For All, so he's very focused on the even much more so than I am. Although I'm focused on it on the enjoying nature, I think it's really important that people who are pro development make very clear that they wanNA minimize pollution, and they want to maximize our enjoyment of nature and I think with that with those things bundled together than the other side seems very regressive. It seems like Oh. You don't want to impact anything anywhere, and that's a real problem. I think that's that's one way in which you can buy clarifying. What people's values really are you can. You can win a lot of people over at least to the perspective. Then there's the question of fossil fuels which you have to argue certain facts rain so so interesting that you talked about Mike. Shellenberger because I think he's probably best known that most people would have seen his ted talk I think he was a if we're talking about the same guy he was. A big proponent of solar wind and sort of came to the sort of organic conclusion that nuclear power was sort of the only path forward is that? Is that a fair characterization? I've never talked to them. I know that Ted talk was filmed the number of years ago in so similar to you where you publish the book in two, thousand fourteen, the environment in. In pricing was different. The Es G. Environment was different. The climate was very different. When you publish it, so I imagine a lot change in six years, so we'll talk about that, but in Mike's case, what evolution is he had maybe since that Ted talk, or what was the biggest takeaway you have from your conversation with him? That was perhaps surprising to you. I think the most interesting thing. And he and I go in some some depth on this. People just look YouTube. If you look just fine. Michael Shellenberger will come up. The really interesting thing about him that I think is very a very positive development generally is that he has, he's always been a very rational person, and has had a generally pro human outlook on our relationship to nature and part of the point. He makes us look ever since human beings have been around. We've been transforming nature to meet our needs. This is not something new in the past hundred years. Where does it better at it? Than other people, and actually it was a one point. He makes inject that he's made for a long time. Sort of the better we are this. I'm using my own words, but the better we are transforming. Including the denser the more densely we can achieve things. The more we can preserve the kind of things that we want to preserve so if you even talks in his book about factory farming and he talks about okay well..
"michael shellenberger" Discussed on News Radio 920 AM
"Mike Shellenberger. He's the author of Apocalypse Never. So What have you? What Have you found when you started really looking in and deciding to expose this? How did we get here? Michael? Well, it's a great question. I mean, there was the conservation movement. As you mentioned. I think you consider yourself a conservationist. I consider myself a conservationist. I mean, really up until World War two. We all basically agree that lifting everybody out of poverty was a good thing. And protecting the natural environment was a good thing After World War two, A bunch of really anti human ideas took hold. They came from a British economist named Thomas Malthus. I don't mean to use jargon. But this idea of Malthusian is, um, is that there's just too many people in the world. After World War two That Took over the conservation movement by 1970. This really dark view that there's too many people in the world even called it lifeboat ethics. Nothing ethical about it, But the idea was we were in the lifeboat. Which lifeboat of prosperity other people trying to get in, and we should keep them out. That was the idea and they they did a bunch of things. I mean, The first thing that they did. That was very important Is that because by the 19 fifties With the invention of nuclear energy. We knew that there would never ever again be scarcity. Resource scarcity on her, We'd have infinite energy. Infinite water, Infinite fertilized are infinite food. So this is very threatening to anybody who's seeking to take control over the economy by frightening people of environmental resource scarcity. So what they had to do was to attack and demonized nuclear. And it was very easy to do because people are already scared of nuclear weapons. Of course, nuclear power plants are not nuclear weapons, but they basically got the public confused about it. So much of the quote unquote environmental movement. Has spent the last half century attacking our cleanest best source of energy for the environment. And proposing. I can tell you, Michael. Michael, I have to tell you just saying that from a guy who is on climate change. Just saying that I Congar Inti you There are people that are listening all over America going. Thank God Thank God. Somebody is finally saying that you can't be an environmentalist. If you're against new, safe nuclear energy. You just can't be. It's the safest, cleanest energy available. Well, this is the question that really What drove me to write one of the questions that drove me to write Apocalypse Never, which was, Why are the people who are the most alarmist about climate change opposed to the on ly things that can reduce carbon emissions, which is basically transitioning from coal to natural gas. And then to nuclear. That's it. I mean, it's not people trying to make it complicated because they don't want to do those things. Natural gas and nuclear the on ly fuels that can really substitute for Cole. In enrich and keep and keep the economy strong and prosperous. So why is that and what I got? Hoo was because they're not really They don't really care about climate change. This isn't about climate change. This is about getting control over the economy over the society. About moving the whole society to a low energy. They want to return to an agrarian economy. That's why they have these really bad romantic visions that she read of everybody is gonna be a small farmer again. I'll tell you something. I've some money. I spent my son 30 years interviewing small farmers and poor countries. Very few Children of small farmers want to remain small farmers. They want to move to Tijuana. You know, I'm right. Some of us really like living in the country, and we like being farmers, but only 2% of us work on farms. All of our prosperity comes from actually not being an agrarian economy anymore and being an industrial economy. So what is environmentalism? And it's most mainstream. And yet very radical manifestation. Do it's trying to deprive industrialization to poor countries, That's all. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you more with Michael Shellenberger. This guy makes sense. Does this guy make you say okay, I could be an environmentalist because this makes sense. Apocalypse. Never buy the book. Michael Shellenberger returns in a minute. You're listening to Glenn back. So what's the number? One sign of bad Home Security System Home security system that is so complicated that you never use it..
"michael shellenberger" Discussed on NewsRadio WIOD
"The same thing with global climate change to how big is this? We're going to get into it next hour. This This book by Ah, Michael Shellenberger. It's great. I'm about halfway through it. I actually had him on today on students. America. Yeah. Do you really? Yeah, he's he's you know, incredibly brave guy and the stuff that he goes through. I mean, there are multiple instances in this book land. Where a claim that you've heard We've all heard 1000 times. You know of environmentalists, you know, alarmist sort of claim is he talks about it? He then calls the scientist who made it and the scientists tells him on the record. They misquoted him in the in the article. It was never true, and they never intended it to be true. Multiple instances of him actually confirming this stuff. It's pretty. It's pretty close. So you're doing climate change tonight? Yes. Does the climate apocalypse is tonight? The climate apocalypse? That is fantastic. I have to watch that one tonight. This is a guy who is student said incredibly brave. I think is one of the bravest people. In the world today because he was he was named the Time magazine Hero of the Environment. The Green Book Award winner he is hey often writes for The New York Times, The Washington Post. The Wall Street Journal Scientific American. His Ted talks on global warming viewed over five million times and what he's done is he's come out and said You know, they started coming after friends of mine and I said nothing and I really need to I mean, this guy is really brave. He is completely dismantling. Ah, the the apocalyptic view of global warming and the things he has to say We'll share them next hour and stool is gonna have him on the show tonight. But this guy is It's starting to come undone. All of these things are starting to come undone. And all we have to do is hold on long enough. Because they're starting to eat themselves, and there are brave people on the on the left that seem to be starting to come out. I'm anxious to see what happens to Shellenberger and his career by the way that the story was first posted on published by Forbes, But it was on ly up for a few hours and Forbes pulled the story. So the media is still Doing what the media does, but this is very good news. We'll have more on that coming up at the top of the hour. Glenn back getting.
"michael shellenberger" Discussed on 600 WREC
"There's an idea that we have Dominion over the Earth. That God gave us the earth. To use the resource is to prosper. That idea is effectively rejected by environmentalists who view humans a cancer on the earth of the virus. And so what? I argues, we need to get back to that humanistic tradition. And in fact, the evidence is overwhelming that as we take care of our Children as we prosper as we take care of our societies that over time Our impact on the environment goes down because we moved from energy dilute fuels from from from from wood and dung. Coal, natural gas, eventually nuclear And our ecological footprint gets smaller. I mean, this is the big lie, you know that going from the environmental progress is going from renewables fossil fuels to nuclear. The environmental movement hasn't exactly wrong. They want to take people from nuclear to fossil fuels to renewables. That would increase humankind's environmental impact because it takes 400 times more land to generate the same amount of electricity from a solar or wind farm As it does from the natural gas plant. There's not enough land in the United States to be able to do it. I mean, the numbers are staggering to see for us to try to replace it. At least today. Maybe in 50 years. Maybe not. Today. I've only got a couple of minutes and I want to hit two more things with you. First of all, Greta Thornburg. I have I actually feel bad for her because I think she has some of the worst parents in the world. They have filled her head with all of this frightening stuff, and we didn't steal her childhood. I think her parents and the the terrifying Ah, science that has gone along with this. That is wrong. I think they stole her childhood. Your thoughts. She's definitely for sure. I mean, Greta's in the grip of Ah, bad religion. She's a victim of this toxic, anti human depressing. Neurotic phobic philosophy and and yeah, and and she's spreading it and it's It's quite it's actually it's actually very psychologically harmful and dangerous on bad for poor countries, So yeah, I don't see. You know, I I'm with you. I kind of go. She's clearly a victim. She clearly hasn't done any research at all. She's been talking to the most. Pseudoscientific Malthusian scientists in the world who I debunk at length in Apocalypse Never Oh, yes. Yeah. Ah, now the reaction to your book. Science. Does it? Do the scientists know that they've set themselves back like 500 years by silencing debate and dissent and you know the settle. The science is settled. And maybe we should put you know deniers into jail and everything else. Do they know how much they damage that has been done to their to their trade into their craft into the stoop, so science itself some do now. I was invited by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change to become an expert reviewer late last year. I know that came because I had been criticizing the alarmism. I was also invited to testify in front of Congress. I've been invited testify in front of you. Governments around the world. And I know for a fact that there are many scientists who are very good people and good scientists who totally disagree with the alarmism, but they're afraid of their colleagues. I mean, you have to remember that the alarmist scientists Who are truly in the grip of this toxic religion. Are bullies. They're still a little. Their tactics are bullying tactics, and I actually described them and discovered them, But I just have known about them for a long time. Ah, I myself have been Ah, subject to them, And so they try to they try. They make all sorts of they lie about you. They claim that you're taking money from somebody. They claim that your you know that you hate nature or something. They attack you personally. And But what I find is that when you confront them and you stand up to them on the evidence And you get you get a very clear and I, and that's why there's 100 pages of my 400 page book are all footnotes. They're all scientific references. So I think the reason they're they're attacking my book, and you may have noticed that I was sent my Forbes column was taken down. But the defensiveness is, I think justified They know that my book is dangerous to the radical left, which took over the conservation movement in the sixties. They know that my book is devastating for the alarmist and apocalyptic case. That's why they're freaking out about it. So you know, I'm I'm confident that you know that in the long term truth will win out. I mean, obviously, there's this bigger problem of what do you do with people that that they need to believe in something and They end up making up all sorts of bad religions. I don't know how to solve that problem, but certainly I think on the evidence my hope is that apocalypse never will. Will resell the conversation. You. You remind me of Nicci and his warning of God is dead. That wasn't a celebration. That was a warning. Look out. Be careful because you're going to create a God and we saw what happened in in his own home country. And it eventually did burn itself out. Unfortunately, it took so many people with it. I hope we don't have to go through that. And this religion, Michael? Ah, anything that you could possibly need. We will stand with you. I know how brave You are. I know what you're up against. And I commend you for it. Even if we don't agree on everything, it doesn't matter standing up and having courage. Is the only currency that matters really in the world. Today. We're in frightening time. And you are a leader Encourage. Thank you so much. And I urge you to go on. You bet I urge you to go out and purchase of pocket lips. Never By Michael Shellenberger. Make this a number one New York Times Best seller. Go and buy this book right now. Apocalypse Never I have not read it yet. I'm buying it today. Stew has read it on and holy endorse. It's to the Holy Dorsett was a great book. It's one of those books. You're gonna go back to a 1,000,000 times when your annoying friend brings up one of these claims to be able to have all that is all of it. It's great. It's great. I'm going to buy a copy for my kid's A cz. Well, apocalypse. Never get that book right now. Finally, the truth is being Spoken. This is the blowback programs. Download the free I hard radioactive. We are. C f m dot com and stay connected to Alabama's largest radio news.
"michael shellenberger" Discussed on 600 WREC
"Mike Shellenberger. He's the author of Apocalypse Never. So What have you? What Have you found when you started really looking in and deciding to expose this? How did we get here? Michael? Well, it's a great question. I mean, there was the conservation movement. As you mentioned. I think you consider yourself a conservationist. I consider myself a conservationist. I mean, really up until World War two. We all basically agree that lifting everybody out of poverty was a good thing. And protecting the natural environment was a good thing After World War two, A bunch of really anti human ideas took hold. They came from a British economist named Thomas Malthus. I don't mean to use jargon. But this idea of Malthusian is, um, is that there's just too many people in the world. After World War two That Took over the conservation movement by 1970. This really dark view that there's too many people in the world even called it lifeboat ethics. Nothing ethical about it, But the idea was we were in the lifeboat. Which life lot of prosperity, other people trying to get in, and we should keep them out. That was the idea and they they did a bunch of things. I mean, The first thing that they did. That was very important Is that because by the 19 fifties With the invention of nuclear energy. We knew that there would never ever again be scarcity, resource scarcity on her, We'd have infinite energy. Infinite water, Infinite fertilizer, infinite food. So this is very threatening to anybody who's seeking to take control over the economy by frightening people of environmental resource scarcity. So what they had to do was to attack and demonized nuclear. And it was very easy to do because people are already scared of nuclear weapons. Of course, nuclear power plants are not nuclear weapons. But they basically got the public confused about it. So much of the quote unquote environmental movement. Has spent the last half century attacking our cleanest best source of energy for the environment and proposing tell you, Michael. Michael, I have to tell you just saying that. From a guy who is on climate change. Just saying that I Congar Inti you There are people that are listening all over America going. Thank God. Thank God. Somebody is finally saying that you can't be an environmentalist. If you're against new, safe nuclear energy. You just can't be. It's the safest. Cleanest energy available. Well, this is the question that really What drove me to write one of the questions that drove me to write Apocalypse Never, which was, why are the people who are the most alarmist about climate change opposed? To the on ly things that can reduce carbon emissions, which is basically transitioning from coal to natural gas. And then to nuclear. That's it. I mean, it's not people try to make it complicated because they don't want to do those things. Natural gas and nuclear, the only fuels that can really substitute for Cole. In enrich and keep and keep the economy strong and prosperous. So why is that and what I got? Hoo was because they're not really They don't really care about climate change. This isn't about climate change. This is about getting control over the economy over the society. About moving the whole society to a low energy. They want to return to an agrarian economy. That's why they have these really bad romantic visions that she read of everybody is gonna be a small farmer again. I'll tell you something. I've money. I've spent my 30 years interviewing small farmers and poor countries. Very few Children of small farmers want to remain small farmers. They want to move T they wantto you know, some of us really like living in the country, and we like being farmers, but only 2% of us work on farms. All of our prosperity comes from actually not being an agrarian economy anymore and being an industrial economy. So what is environmentalism? And it's most mainstream. And yet very radical manifestation. Do it's trying to deprive industrialization to poor countries that thank you. Thank you. Thank you More with Michael Shellenberger. This guy makes sense. Does this guy make you say Okay, I could be an environmentalist because this makes sense. Apocalypse. Never buy the book. Michael Shellenberger returns in a minute. You're listening to Glenn Beck. So what's the number? One sign of bad Home Security System Home security system that is so complicated that you never use it..
"michael shellenberger" Discussed on 600 WREC
"Although there's been a mixed reaction, But, you know, I think the Judeo Christian tradition is a humanistic tradition. There's an idea that we have Dominion over the Earth. That God gave us the earth. To use the resource is to prosper. That idea is effectively rejected by environmentalists who view humans a cancer on the earth as a virus. And so what? I argues, we need to get back to that humanistic tradition. And in fact, the evidence is overwhelming that as we take care of our Children as we prosper as we take care of our societies that over time Our impact on the environment goes down because we moved from Energy dilute fuels from no from from from wood and dung to coal and natural gas. Eventually nuclear and our ecological footprint gets smaller. I mean, this is the big lie. You know that going from the environmental progress is going from renewables fossil fuels to nuclear. The environmental movement has it exactly wrong. They want to take people from nuclear toe fossil fuels to renewables that would increase humankind's environmental impact because it takes 400 times more land to generate the same amount of electricity from a solar or wind farm as it does from a natural gas plant. There's not enough land in the United States to be able to do it. I mean, the numbers are staggering to see for us to try to replace it. At least today. Maybe in 50 years. Maybe not. Today. I've only got a couple of minutes and I want to hit two more things with you. First of all, Greta Thornburg. I have I actually feel bad for her because I think she has some of the worst parents in the world. They have filled her head with all of this frightening stuff, and we didn't steal her childhood. I think her parents and the the terrifying Ah, science that has gone along with this. That is wrong. I think they stole her childhood. Your thoughts. She's definitely for sure. I mean, Greta's in the grip of Ah, bad religion. She's a victim of this toxic, anti human depressing. Neurotic phobic philosophy and and yeah, and and she's spreading it and it's It's quite it's actually it's actually very psychologically harmful and dangerous on bad for poor countries, So yeah, I don't see. You know, I I'm with you. I kind of go. She's clearly a victim. She clearly hasn't done any research at all. She's been talking to the most. Pseudoscientific Malthusian scientists in the world who I debunk at length in Apocalypse Never Oh, yes. You're dumb. Ah, now the reaction to your book. Science. Does it? Do the scientists know that they've set themselves back like 500 years by silencing debate and dissent and You know the settle the science is settled, and maybe we should put, you know deniers into jail and everything else. Do they know how much they damage that has been done to their to their trade into their craft into the science itself. Some do now. I was invited by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change to become an expert reviewer late last year. I know that came because I had been criticizing the alarmism. I was also invited to testify in front of Congress. I've been invited testify in front of Two governments around the world. And I know for a fact that there are many scientists who are very good people and good scientists who totally disagree with the alarmism, but they're afraid of their colleagues. I mean, you have to remember that the alarmist scientists who are truly in the grip of this toxic religion. Are bullies. There stood a little. Their tactics are bullying tactics, and I actually described them and discovered them, But I just have known about them for a long time. Uh, I myself have been ah, subject to them. And so they try to they try to. They make all sorts of they lie about you. They claim that you're taking money from somebody. They claim that your you know that you hate nature or something. They'd just attack you personally. And but what I find is that when you confront them and you stand up to them on the evidence, and you get you get a very clear and I, and that's why there's 100 pages of my 400 page book are all footnotes. They're all scientific references. So I think the reason they're they're attacking my book, and you may have noticed that I was sent my Forbes column was taken down yet, but the defensiveness is, I think justified They know that my book is dangerous to the radical left, which took over the conservation movement in the sixties. They know that my book is devastating for the alarmist, an apocalyptic case. That's why they're freaking out about it. So you know, I'm I'm confident that you know that in the long term truth will went out. I mean, obviously. Is this bigger problem of what do you do with people that that they need to believe in something and they end up making up all sorts of bad religions? I don't know how to solve that problem, but certainly I think on the evidence My hope is that apocalypse never will. Will resell the conversation. You. You remind me of Nicci and his warning of God is dead. That wasn't a celebration. That was a warning. Look out. Be careful because you're going to create a God and we saw what happened in in his own home country. And it eventually did burn itself out. Unfortunately, it took so many people with it. I hope we don't have to go through that. And this religion, Michael? Ah, anything that you could possibly need. We will stand with you. I know how brave You are. I know what you're up against. And I commend you for it. Even if we don't agree on everything, it doesn't matter standing up and having courage. Is the only currency that matters really in the world. Today. We're in frightening time. And you are a leader Encourage. Thank you so much. And I urge you to go on. You bet I urge you to go out and purchase Apocalypse Never By Michael Shellenberger. Make this a number one New York Times Best seller. Go and buy this book right now. Apocalypse Never I have not read it yet. I'm buying it today. Stew has read it on and holy endorse. It's to the Holy Norse. It was a great book. It's one of those books. You're gonna go back to a 1,000,000 times when your annoying friend brings up one of these claims to be able to have all that is all of it. It's great. It's great. I'm going to buy a copy for my kid's A cz. Well, apocalypse. Never get that book right now. Finally, the truth is.