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Saddana show here on ESPN LA, Kirk Moore's, our guest co host today. Thanks Robin woods. Yeah, for joining us there. Rodney to mow touchdowns and I know he he upset about even want wanna come out and say, like, man, that's that's. That's, that's. That's too big. No, but he told us as much as could which is like Jared ozone. Also. I mean, it was wide open on two of all, what? Yeah. Yeah, no doubt. By the way, this Saturday come out to Bank of California stadium for the best experience in Los Angeles cheer on Elliott is they make a push for the playoffs with the key Western Conference matchup on September twenty second against San Jose at twelve thirty. We've got, what are we doing later? We're giving the what are we giving away? Mike, we are giving away a package deal to the seventh caller, not right now. No, no later, but later on goes just telling them that. Two tickets to scarfs and two hats. I'm sweet. So you get tickets and some gear. I like it. So yeah, who doesn't? So. Now the fight wasn't free. It was eighty five dollars, but I feel like I, I've been like, I've got my money's worth. I watched the fight. I thought it was entertaining. Mike, you were there. I don't know if you watch the fire, Kirk, did you watch the fight now? I'll watch college football. Okay. So you did not switch to the fight? I did. Actually. I'll watch the fight differently though. Okay. I watched it through Twitter. Oh, that's an amazing way to watch the. No, I would. I would. I mean, 'cause I'm watching college football because eighty five bucks because I, you know, I'll kind of pre tell people wide in order to fight. I don't wanna go last minute, but usually call calling a college football game on Saturday. Right. Oh, my game got cancelled af at North Carolina over because of hurricane Florence and still my thoughts and prayers to the people out there. Yeah, dealing with that, it's just my thoughts and prayers with you guys. So I ended up making it a family night. We go out early, come back to go to the restaurant. I told you to go to got a story behind. Okay, so I told I before we move before we move on, move on, I told you go to yard bird on the Beverly center. I'm appeal the curtain back would have arson household. So yard bird is the bleep by the way, if you like southern food chicken and MAC and cheese, jams and greens. Biscuits, like it is delicious. So let me let me take you behind the curtain of wait before we jump into the fight, it's all part of it. So my game gets canceled this week. Me on me and my wife. We talked about way. We'll be going to do this weekend. You know, obviously, you know, we got the kids on Saturday usually, but usually my mother-in-law, usually that's our time. I, I like Saturday afternoons because I'm usually gone. Why have a little time. So I said, cool. Why tells me I'm going to brunch on Saturday. Okay. And you can watch football because that's what you normally do. Perfect. Saw said what in maybe let's go to dinner that night. I got a place. Maybe she was like, okay, well, I got brunch on Saturday. Maybe we go to dinner another day, sorry. Cool. I want to take you somewhere because I do so she comes back from brunch and she was like, oh my God, I had the best start. I like, oh, Where'd you go? I went to the Beverly center to yard birds. Looked at me. She was like, why are you acting like that? What I'll take you out. I'm slimming. I was laughing. I was like, that was towed. We'll take it to the restaurant. She was like you to tell me that routes restaurant, right? She was already gone. She was like, it was amazing time. It was great. It was hurting girls enjoyed. It took pictures and I'm like, they enjoy told me about it. And you beat me to it. Yeah, but now you can go together and now you can watch you experience it for the first time because it's great. It look, I, I don't get paid to say this, right, but it is one of it's one of the best restaurants I've been to. I've been to the one the original ones on south beach. I've been to the one in Vegas, which is at Venetian, and then this one that opened at the Beverly center, they have a fourth one in Singapore. I haven't been there, but my guess, but they're all fantastic. So if you if you love southern cooking, this place is legit. I'm going trust me I'm going. So after that that's an it was defeated. We'd just made, you know, watching, you know, kids show watching beauty and the beast on Saturday night. So it was beating a bee's. I had ipad on football and I'm watching the fight on Twitter and I'm watching as Twitter is kind of going back and forth. You're seeing a fight in everybody's. You're getting incident Alice's in. I don't know if I can get that when I'm actually truly watching the fight. I didn't expect me watching the fight. Right, and I'm seeing, okay. Oh, the wall I'm seeing through Twitter. Is that both these guys are cool rock them sock them robot, and these guys are this isn't a dance they were going to show they were going at each other face to face and you can see that the fight was close to the way people were describing it. Yeah, it was unbelievably close. Look, I think we live in a world where everyone overreacts this stuff, and if it doesn't go the way that you think it should go immediately, it's, oh, it's a robbery. It was stolen and this that and the other. And I think people just need to pump the brakes a little bit as as you said on Twitter, describing it as a close fight. I saw it as a close fight. I actually put away ger unconnected. He was the underdog in the fight. So I figured I got a little value there. So I on canal. Oh, I was rooting for canal, but as I scored at home, I was score. Born it just like the the the judges would and I scored it one fifteen one thirteen, seven rounds to five in favor of triple g. But my thing is and there were so many rounds, Kirk right where I was like, ooh, where do I go with this one at the end? I I was sitting there debating like, do I go this route, go triple judo canal. There was at least four, five of those where I could have gone either way, right? So for anyone to sit here and yell and scream, oh, boxing's a sham. There was a robbery. There are plenty of moments for that to happen. Okay. I'm not debating that that fight on Saturday was not one of those moments. I know it was close, but I think it's the the, it's the average fan, the fair weather fans guys like myself who when we tune in? We wanna see a true winner. You know, we don't wanna see all it was anything in which there's controversy behind. We want to see a true winner. It's kind of like what we saw the NFL the first couple of weeks like yesterday, Green Bay. Minnesota. Yeah, you can't walk away with a frequent talk. Yeah. Like just give somebody a victory. Okay. Well, my wife asked her that she goes on a new ROY said, no, it's up in the room for a long time. We just haven't had it like an, it's happened twice. You wanna walk away knowing that you know what that team won that team loss. Yeah, and that's it. Yeah, I think it was just so much people who are watching the fight and kind of analyzing it saying, yes, somebody deserved a win if it was a draw. Okay, we understand, but we don't think that Cannella one is fight. We say more. It was triple. It was closed, but at the end it was like, okay, triple g may have one, then I hear the people that will. It was Cannella with his flashy punches. He was working with flashy canal was more triple g was more old school and then you know, I thought it was a great point, man, DeMarco four. We're talking about it yesterday and it also it does. It's like you got the young star in Kamilo, Mary young. He's still got to what about fifteen more years, earning power know obviously, triple, jeez, on the lake. Later in his late thirties. Yep. And he doesn't really have that. So it's what's it's kind of like, what's sexier to you? You know what I mean? It's like even when you watch sports, it's the older guys versus the younger guy. People start to say, well, I'm gonna see that younger guy, love it more. Why? Why don't we just give it to him. You know, I, it's do. Does the older guy gets the benefit or the younger guy think about that? Well, what ends up getting the benefit of the doubt is the guy who is flashier promoting the damn fight a lot of those cases and that's golden boy, and you can ELO now, Mike, you were there again, I don't have an issue with the with the decision. I scored it in triple, jeez favor, but I could easily make the case that can Nella one. I know that's not necessarily great radio because people don't like nuance and they want hot takes, but you were there. What was the sense there? It was. I'm sitting in a role of media guys and after, like you said, there was so close after the round. You would look at each other say who you got, because he had to ask the question that close. I went back and watched it at home last night. Right? And I had a different score. I, I had seven, five triple Jeep last night, watching it again. Six. Six, really? Yes. Well, it's interesting. You say that because the LA times did kinda count of the media people that were there around the ring, and I think that fourteen of them had it as a draw, right. I think like like four had it three or four had it for triple g and then like two or three at it had it for Cannella show is pretty impressive look and you can go a lot of different directions, right? Howard Letterman had gloved. Dan Rayfield are boxing guide ESPN had it as draw Stephen a. had it as as Golovin Arash was there. He had it as a draw teddy atlas had good luck in Sports Illustrated how to draw. I mean, there are a lot of different guys Kevin. I only covers boxing for yahu had a draw like there's a lot of different people that will have a different a different opinion on it. So that to me is why was a great fight and worth every penny of the eighty five dollars. That again for third, I wouldn't know. I would definitely definitely. Yes. Is kind of reminded me, and I know we don't get to this at some point, but it was like, when you look at the third matchup someone is going to win because you don't wanna see it for a fourth time. It was like like Saturday USC. It was the third. It was quote unquote the trilogy, right? Texas one, the first one SE one last year on the arm of Sam darnold. And in the third one was just like why they even play this game. You know what I'm saying? Like, well, this fight be that way where you know somebody's got to go all out. It just depends on how soon it happened and the it's the value of the money. How much does both camps need that big payday? Or some people were saying canola, just going to move on. We'll key might he might Jim Lambley was saying that this morning on a number of different places is able Sanchez going to join us next. Yes. Next, okay. Show Abel Sanchez is the trainer for triple g. We're going to talk to him about this fight, and we're going to ask him why they decided to walk away and not do any interviews after the fight in the post fight with HBO. We're. Going to ask him what he what he thought he was watching while the fight was going on. And of course we'll, they'll be a third fight. We'll get into all that stuff with Abel Sanchez the trainer of triple g in just a moment here on this Donald show here on ESPN LA sit down show here on ESPN LA, Kirk, Moore's guests coast. Today we are efforting defined. Abel Sanchez, the trainer of Gennady doing interviews Gilligan, do. Maybe not gotta sell, so he's going to call him. He knows my hustle. Michael out there in Vegas putting in work. Yeah. Yeah. No, I know auto, the Vegas, who's the boss we get to Michael, I do want to find out all that. You see, because I know you've been to fights before, and I remember one time. Of guy over here, remain nameless in terms of sports writer, all minutes. My first fight. Why I got in a business where he was, he's like, man, it's my first time covering boxed. I've been doing NFL NBA this isn't it? You'd better dress up, which meet dress up, you know, he said, no, this isn't your normal. Like, oh, this khakis in a collared shirt light. This is a fight. You're going to suit. You gotta get up. You gotta wear dress code and shirt and tie. And I remember that Monday he came back. He was like, man, you are so correct? Yeah. Luckily I listen to you because even your your colleagues dress up a little more than just your regular beat. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. There's any question you don't have to go tie any more, but you gotta go coach. You've got a coat. You got to look, you gotta look decent. This ain't just, you know, just your milliner run a Sunday NFL game or scrum for an NBA game. We got a lot of people on hold who want to chime in on this fight at eight, seven, seven, seven, ten ESPN. So Abel's gonna come on at four thirty. He called an apologize. Yeah, we're thirty with Abel Sanchez the trainer of get not Gennady glove. Before we get to the calls. This Monday Davis thing. So for those that don't know, vile fate, I, I gotta tell you why mad to? I'll tell you, okay. So vantera Davis is a corner for the Buffalo Bills. He's been on a number of teams, the colts the dolphins guy, man, he is Vernon Davis, brother, younger, brother, Vernon Davis tight end most you mostly remember him from the Niners played with Washington as well. So von day is a little goofy is probably the way to describe him at times we a little loose on hard knocks. You were talking about heart hard knocks on harnessed couple of years ago and had his issues with Joe Philbin when he's the dolphins, but can I call grandmother? Yeah, exactly. When he got traded afraid. It was. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So so vantera started playing the game for the bills this past weekend, and at halftime was like now done and retired after ten years at halftime? Yes. Now. I can understand. I don't know. I haven't done this in a team environment, but I remember when I was in college, you don't college. You work odd jobs do stupid things. So I remember I took a job that I thought was a quote, unquote marketing job, and I'm using finger quotes. Gotcha. And this marketing job was an essence me going into some office doing cold calling and unlike. So I started doing some of this and I'm like, man, this is stupid. I'm like, so I went into the other room with the boss, and it was just me and a room on a phone. And I said, look, this ain't for me. I'm out. See you later. I walked out, but that's not a team situation. Have you ever seen anyone that I've seen it in training camp? Yeah, I've seen dudes walkout out anything like this? No, not quite like this, and I'm kind of set advantage because we got a great relationship. I remember because when Vernon his brother, I got drafted. Obviously, when he was in San skulls and Oakland in Vernon came, you know, really tight still to this day, actually introduced me to my wife. Almost crazy, but anyway. Yeah. So you know, when von tables coming out of university, Illinois, you know quickly was kind of calling him and it was actually crazy partisan, help them out giving too much family business, but his brother gave him like two, three hundred thousand dollars while I was in college, like because as his brother, you know what I'm saying? So it's kinda live alone to say, I'm giving you a loan. You'll be a first round pick on my money back. And that was the first check that he cut back to a brother. Right? Was the money back that loaned loan anyway, fast forward to where we are. The one thing I can tell you this George, sometimes you can retire from the NFL or sometimes the NFL can retire you for sure. And yesterday was that moment for I think vantera Davis. You go out there. You line up against SU who the Rams have to line up against this week. It's Keenan Allen, Mike Williams and Tyrone Williams wide receiver for the chargers, and you realize, man, I got it. It's a humbling thing for sure. I, I was talking about this today and my group chat, one of my buddies and they were like making you believe that. I said, no, I can believe it because I was in year eight and CJ. Spillover. Running back out of Clemson was dressed the Buffalo Bills. He caught a swing pass, George, and I attempted to go grab him and he hit a different geared. I said, tired. Yeah, it can is that if go up against this every single week, I just you just know you're in trouble. You just know light, man, you know what? It was run. It was a good run in a game, just change. I'm more of set at this though. He could've scumbag one more game and got an extra year on his policy. That's his dumb. No. Hey, look, we've talking about money then I'm saying dumb on his come on man. But what he was like, do he gets one more game? He gets a credit a year. So whatever year this is for him, it's not considered a full year because the only play to as he played one more game, he he'll be less year vested for one more. Yeah. So I put up a poll. Have you ever pulled a vantera Davis with a job? You can go at Saddana ESPN. ZD ESPN forty-seven percent say yes, fifty. Three percent say no, very early returns. People want to chime in on the fight, able Sanchez, the trainer for triple j is going to join us in seven minutes. Let's go to how in north Hollywood, what's up, how not much guys. First time, caller, loved the show. I just wanted to elaborate on the position that some people are taking on the triple g Cannella fight. I thought triples any one in my opinion. But I think when people say that triple g was robbed, I think you have to consider the totality of both fights in a lot of people's opinion that like I think they think that triple g one, the first bite and which I was one of those people. I, I would agree with that. Exactly. So I think in this by was very close obviously, but I think triple g was just a little more aggressive, especially towards the end of a lot of the rounds. And I think the decision just kind of undermined, I guess his aggressiveness in those rounds and they like, I think it's a lot of favoritism in in terms of camello in him being a more marketable fighter. I don't think there's any. I don't think there's any question about that. You're you hit the nail on the head and golden boys. The promotion. Look, I get all that boxing is strange in that regard, there's no one. There's not one sanctioning body like in the UFC or obviously every other individual sport, right tennis has the or the WPA. It is very strange in that way, and I think that that plays a role in it, but I don't think that's ever going to change is the problem? No, it will never change. And that's just the way sports are, though we always kind of gear things differently, you know than any other, especially in the individual sports, not team sports thing about team sports wholly different. When you get the one on one sports, the individual sports is going to be that way. All right. Let me grab Girardin Downey what's up Gerard. Outgoing, my opinion on this is most of the guys who were born for children. G Muslim are made, whether type fans they want. They were against Panella versus a fight to because they don't mind Mexican sell fighters. And then they criticized him for for doing that type of fighting in the first fight. And then now they're still not happy. But if you notice triple g only landed twenty out of ninety punches through in the twelfth round. And I think that's true for most of the fight is they, he didn't have a an exact connection when you were throwing punches. So that's why are they get excited because you see a bunch of punches, but they, they're not connecting it and if not connecting, they don't count. Yeah, but I do think that triple g the last couple of rounds, even though he may not have been connecting. I don't feel like Annella was connecting all that much either. I think that canal for clearly was waddled late in that fight Cannella went to the body. A lot, and that's not always sexy and people don't always see that. But the judges see that and he go to body a lot and it looked like triple g was little bit outta gas in, you know, about about four fifth round, but triple dream really dig dug deep and did what he had to do. Am I reading too much into, I guess, canals response to the announcement when he was victorious. Like I think that's also kind of a way that you look how close the fight was where they said his name. He was stunned. He was stunned like, I'm looking at that like, okay, so the fight actually was close if he thought he thought he had to knock him out. And I think fighters new was close. Yeah, for sure you can vote on our poll. We'll take more of your calls here in a second because I know a lot of people want to weigh in on the fight at eight, seven, seven, seven, ten ESPN eight seven, seven, seven, ten, three, seven, seven, six. You can also vote on our poll. Have you ever pull devante Davis with the job fifty? Seven percent say no fifty, seven percents. I know you can vote at Sodano ESPN. So Abel Sanchez, the trainer for triple g will join us next year on the Sodano show Kirk Morrison. Hanging out with us today here on ESPN LA I so the big fight, obviously a lot of people talking about the fight from this weekend, triple g versus canal. We'll talk to the trainer of Gennady left in Abel Sanchez. Now with us here on the Sodano show on ESPN LA able. Thank you so much for coming on with us. We appreciate your time. How stunned were you by the result. I was going to say it was stunned. I knew it was a very good fight. I knew the close fight. I didn't think it was that close, but that's what we have judges. We have faith in in in what they do, and and they saw from a different perspective, nobody else I think that I thought we won, but we'd have to go by the judge's decision able. Did you having after watch the first fight? Did you guys feel like you accomplished a game plan and fight to where you feel like you may have missed out on opera -tunities in the first fight? No, I think that to be honest, I think that canal bought in the first five at least saw he needed to fight. Everybody gets talking about Galkin Dina just come forward, kinda guy that just goes bombs and just everybody out the Lufkin through a handle and stuff with the jab, very well in his five, many combinations boxed the. We need the rock. He knows how to box. I just think that sometimes the jabs in good jazz so don't say don't are not taking into consideration. Nascimento body shopping needs to be thrown by the shots. So the jazz are not really as important that you say is that the judges as they should be? How difficult is it? Because of that of what you just described that each judge is watching it through their own prism and they are looking for their own set of specific things instead of there being a set standard for these things? No. I think that every fighter has a lot of facets to them. Sometimes they don't use them. Sometimes they don't. They don't need them so they don't use them. But he sounds a lot can fight Stevens and you saw him fight an immune. He box the box because he knows how with a good job with good combinations behind the Javan. And sometimes you get pigeon holed into believe in if there's nobody shots, there's no work, and that's not true. Abel Sanchez the trainer for night. You love gin with us. You're on the Sodano show on ESPN Los Angeles. When he fought the way he fought in the first fight you had that you saw that he took a lot of criticism. You criticized him for it. He came a different way at your guy. This time were you surprised by the way he came out Cannella that is in this particular fight? Not at all. I think that he had the pressure on him. I get the Fisher not only defame, but the pressure of the media. He brought forty some five before in a certain way, announce any changes in this like. He knew that he he had to do something to dispel those. I don't even rumors of of the positive, but just the fact that he he didn't wanna exchange with the luck and he came on strong and he thought a good price actually a very good. A very look able having been seen the fight Saturday. Have you had a chance to rewatch it and kinda graded and critique it? And if and if you did, what did you think that you guys could have done better on Saturday? You know, I very seldom watch the fights after very because all we can do is prepare guys to be a hundred percent at what they do and and the other guys doing the same thing. So I think. Circumstance. You change in the ring as as the fight goes runs around. So we have to be able to observe from the outside and change it as you see fit or try to advise how to change it as we see during around. But they're the ones in there that he with the opening, the only can do is advise it is just because we see it doesn't mean that they see the possibility Atlanta something, but I thought that he thought he bucks. Well, I thought that dealing the right combinations that that we had. We had done enough, but I knew it was close. Right? That's why. If you hear me in the last couple around, I'm telling you that I need to rounds. Why? Because I wanted to make sure that we didn't leave anything in the tank to that point enabled Sanchez to get Lumpkin trainer with us. You're on the Sodano show on ESPN Los Angeles. Do you feel that he was rewarded? Cannella was rewarded because he looked as if he was the aggressor in the fight. Yeah, I think that he didn't do that the last time and maybe this time because he's coming forward, don't punches Alternativa punches. He's being affected. But again, we can't for me the case has a judge's will be to take away from Cannella Kim's performance that night. I thought that can fight. So it was a very close fight. I, I think that if we were expecting that kind of fight that kinda messed up, I, we got every every bit of our pennies worth. Hopefully they do it again in the rubber won't be. We won the first one. They win the second one according to the judges, and only one the first one because of the stupidity of the score is what I'm saying. And he win the second one according to the judges, let them do it again. If one run. If one round separates him in each fight. I mean the pretty well matched and h thirty six. What's the recovery time for triple g in terms of a the next opponent? Probably not. Not Cannella, but what do you look as for a time line for him to get back out there and fight. Remember they both got cut so forget about the the physical wear and tear they're gonna need at least three or four months to heal the cuts, and they don't get back in the gym and open it up again. And there's a possibility in the fight. It'd be an open canal that was substantial. And the look, I think, took eight stitches. So it's it's not a cut this this going to heal in in a couple of months. So I would say the take the rest of the year up. Awesome. Take the rest of Europe and he'll not only that ones, but also their bodies and start talking at the beginning next year, whether it's canal on the lock in again or or they fight somebody in between and do against the timber. But I think that recovery period right now should be the beginning of the year, and he was like, you're saying you go into the golf course tomorrow. You got about three months to work on the game. Is that what you're saying? No one is I got eleven other guys in my gym that I have left this month for five next month and five next. And I went after that in their four of 'em world pedal fight. So the reason I didn't get on the phone at four fifteen is I had guys fine in the Ringling now I made it back only this morning for a workout. So it's it's another day in the office note. No, no worries about that. We just appreciate you coming on Abel Sanchez with this year. The trainer forget ninety. You love get. I have a couple of more questions here for you. There was a lot of talk after the fight about Gennady not speaking with HBO in the post fight. Do you know why that was the case? As we're awaiting celebration for canal, oh, it's jumping up and down the doing all this stuff and got up. Can you tell me, say, coach never have his moment. I don't have this moment. He won the fight. They got him as a winner. Listen, leave him alone. That's going to dress. That's nothing. Just let him have it moment, which I thought was kinda classing part instead of standing there in front of max and trying to trying to explain why the panel have is moment, which is I from what I gather great celebration in the ring, what would it take to make a third fight. I think Tom and Oscar and Eric will have to sit down and and and find out what it would take at the beginning of the year at the beginning in defining what it would take and then bring it back to the to the fighters in in in the people in and see if they can put it together. But I think it's a fight that boxing needs. I think it's the rivalries, have always been something that's been a prominent in our sports and and they seem to be by the third one seems to be the best. You know, fourth and fifth end up being does, but I think that there is always been a very defined as in the marquess fight with that gel and is when burn we're fighting and those guys back in those days, would you do anything differently. Obviously, we're going to go back and sit down and at that moment that I would sit down with a in, review the tape and see what we don't see what we can do better. Of course, it'd be it'd be sticking for me to say, I'm not going to change nothing, but we have to be the best. We can be make minor adjustments as the canalside and in trying to put on the great performance like they did this. No, I understand enabled Sanchez with this. You're get leptons trainer that sometimes you're saying stuff, you're selling a fight. Clearly this reverence here between you and canal. As you've demonstrated here in this interview today, there was a lot of talk though about some of the scandals and the PD's and all that. Did he gain some respect back for you after this fight? Well, yeah, there was a lot of top, but a lot of at the beginning was was more to to point out the fact that there was an issue and it shouldn't be swept under the rug. As the we went on, it became personal on their side towards me. I never said anything salty to monitor the truth at the test in twelve or fourteen times with other, he fights. It kinda fide. Absolutely got my respect. I think that he did what he needed to do on a pain level because the number one test company in the world and contested the negative. So I think that by by doing that and then going out in the ring in in in trying to prove to all of us that it wasn't a drug that made him good the first time and it wasn't a drug that he was taking. It was actual tainted leap. I think that he should have. You should have some of that staying taking away because he, he gave us a great great outing. Abel Sanchez the trainer for good naughty, Gillespie, and able. Thank you so much. Taking the time. We appreciate it. Thank you very much. Have a great day. You got YouTube. I look. I want you guys to react. Get your thoughts, eight, seven, seven, seven, ten ESPN eight seven, seven, seven, three, seven, seven, six. Your thoughts on what able had to say about the fight about the decision about basically the way it all went down. We'll get to that plus, man. I'm gonna have to have a long conversation with everybody about USC and what the expectations are. We'll tell you about that in just a second. Thanks, Abel, Sanchez, the trainer, Gennady glove, Ken for joining us there. By the way, our poll this afternoon brought to us by Buffalo Wild Wings. Was a very simple question. We're talking about vantera Davis. Yeah, of the Buffalo Bills your boy, Kirk who basically quit at halftime in walked out and never came back. So I asked the question, have you ever pulled up on Davis with a job fifty? Nine percent say no, but we've gotten some really funny responses to this and you can vote or respond on Twitter at Sodano ESPN. Here's one from Ronald Richardson says when I was seventeen I worked at Wendy's, we had, we had a transient, destroy the bathroom PICO matter everywhere. The manager at the time ordered me to clean it. I quit on the spot. See that. Yeah, I don't blame you. We've got a couple of different ones here. Here's one from Guillermo. Guillermo says was between jobs back in Christmas, the twenty fourteen needed a gig. So I applied for a seasonal spot at a Nike store and went through two weeks of training. First day was twelve hour overnight before thanksgiving. Walked in on black Friday clock then did a lap clocked out. Never went back. Yeah, man. They're trying to get that discount. That's all he was trying to do. That disco Sanjaya tweets says she says, I know someone took a lunch break and never came back. Yeah. I mean, look do it all the time. That's why I'm not surprised. Bounty Davis did still surprised Mike is here, you know? Yeah. Mike, Mike Pearson because everybody has that that thought on Monday come back from Vegas. Yeah. You go to banks on late, you get back lake Sunday. You wake up Monday after a whole weekend of actually, you know, working and getting, you know, having a good time, but you wake up Monday night. Oh yeah, that's how you must feel going back to practice today. We'll get back to your calls unisex and if you want to react to the Abel Sanchez interview at eight, seven, seven, seven, ten ESPN eight, seven, seven, seven, ten, three, seven, seven, six, Kirk, I I was watching that thing and I I know we talked to Robert woods earlier about it. Robber woods was on this an hour ago. If you missed it, you could always subscribe to the podcast and find it there. He was actually very downtrodden. It seemed like, but somewhat upbeat still about USC, but man, look, here's the question as I'm watching them through three weeks. This is no longer an overreaction. Okay. And I understand that the college football seasons only eleven or twelve games or whatever, but twelve games conference. I put this question out there on Twitter after the game is clay Helton and his staff in real trouble. I put his clay in trouble, but I now open that up to his staff because I know a lot of people have issues with t Martin, right? But this team Kirk does not have an identity, doesn't have an identity on. Offense. It doesn't have an identity on defense, right? And if your identity is not utilizing the really good running backs that you have and letting a freshman quarterback, who I think is going to be really good, throw the ball forty eight times, even though he completed a large percentage of them on the road, that to me is not the identity you want because that's not a recipe for success on offense. I think they're still trying to find what their identity is supposed to be thinking about it coming in. Everybody was talking about what would USC. This was supposed to be the year of the defense because authencity they were going to have to have an acclimation period. There's going to be a new quarterback. It was going to be three different running backs who you're trying to get the football to. You got a news, a host of wide receivers, and yet the best one has been the true freshman, and you gotta find ways to put him and actually keep him in a game. So to me, I think the defense has let them down for the most part, which was supposed to be their calling card this year in Puerto Gusta not being out there that that that hurts Cameron Smith to me looks a little bit. Like he said, he lost weight this off season. Sometimes you gotta stay who you are and stop looking for toward the NFL. I want to be an every down linebacker to me. He's getting pushed around that defensive line is getting pushed around. The one thing that I can say from watching the tape and looking at all the games. I want everybody to watch JT Daniels, I want you to watch this to George. The next game he never looks left. He throws everything to the right every this is where t Martin's even having to come get, you know, get creative, the receivers, like Tyler von who lines up on the left. However, the lines on the left, they're actually having to move him and other players on the right side, right? Has JT Daniels right now as a true freshman quarterback and this is part of the progression. He's a young player. He can't see the whole field doesn't wanna throw across his body, but he's really reading one half of the field. He's got two routes on one side and that's it. If the corner sinking, then you throw to this guy, the corner is not there and you thought it is. That's it. And teams are catching up to that. No one wants to give Todd Orlando. Who's a great defensive coordinator for Texas a good job on his game plan. He frustrated them and look the first half. It was kind of like a Rams game thing about it. First half is kind of like, oh, you got really in the second half. It was just Texas. Didn't allow USC the score the over, overwhelmed them. Now granted they did get the benefit of a really terrible call with that safety, but you can't let that become an avalanche. You can't sit there and just let that thing. Just swallow you up and it looked like they got swallowed up then mentioned about the defense and they were supposed to hang their hat on defense. Here are some of the things that I see from this defense. We talked about it last week, big place. They give up way too many big plays late against UNLV seventy one yard run thirty one yard pass. Stanford. They had a third and twenty three and they completed a twenty five yard pass. When the game was still in the balance. At that point, Texas, a forty seven and twenty seven yard touchdown pass. So I ask you this question is someone who played in lined up. Played football at the highest levels. What gives here too aggressive, bad tackling? Is it both? Like what are you seeing defensively? Schematically is an issue. Smelling the roses, no pun intended, not the Rose Bowl, but smelling the roses. You walk in and you have this. We're good. We're already good. We've already won the game before it even starts. We're as c. and you got to walk around with a target on your chest. And that defense is not playing the way that a team that was supposed to be led by defenses playing. I mean, guys are out of position and it's not to me, it's not because of the defensive scheme. I think also you have to look at this. This defense this year was going to be axed to have to be special. Okay. They have to be special because you're going to have a true freshman quarterback. We see in JT it's going to be some ups and downs of the wide receivers have been the best, but then you look at the the running backs to me, they haven't. The offense of line hasn't been word needed to be with all the starters. Coming back there, atrocious, the offensive line is all February. It was like, oh, we'll lash. It was a gift and a curse. You had. All of these, you know, young players playing last year because of injury. Oh, they're all coming back there. They're returning starters, you were just returning. They're not that good. Have they come along? Yes. So that's my question. Yes. Are we overrating the talent a little bit? Absolutely. Everybody's rating it because they're SE. It's the distill USC that they're talented to me. They're a good football team, but they're in a down conference this year. They're the, the athletes are there, but we'll see now what the conference started. The Pac twelve and Trump Pac twelve. You've got eight more games than you got to face a Notre Dame, you know this year. So I don't know what that record is going to look like last year. I thought they like they overcame a lot to lose what three games last year they finished eleven three conference championship. That's that's an amazing year. Did you know giving what they were handed, but it was those losses to Ohio State. He was those losses that people looked and said, wow, and now you got a quick turnaround because you've got to come out and play this. Friday against Washington state, and I think look, you can kind of forget about it. If you're able to play on Friday night, national TV and say, look, you know, this is this. We're gonna get this team together, but you gotta performance on Friday night the yes, the rumblings are gonna come down. If you lose to a Washington question, the rumblings already coming down. I don't think there's any doubt about that, but let me ask you this. I understand that coaches, coach implemented game, planet players have to execute. I get all that right. But I mean, you're not going to run the ball when you gonna let a freshman quarterback threw the ball forty eight times on the road that to me when you have those running backs and we know that those guys are good. We're not overrating those three guys. How are you not running the ball more, especially when you're telling me as someone who played linebacker at the highest levels that JT Daniels only reading half that isn't that more of a cause to run the ball and isn't that more indicative of t. Martin or Klay or whoever is involved on the offensive side. To just look at themselves in the mirror and say, we're not doing the job. We need to do coaches. I guess it's also to you got to look at it two different ways. Here this weekend. I'll be at LSU. I got a chance to see coach. Oh, I have LSU game this weekend on ESPN ESPN u.. One thing about coach odorata since he's been at LSU has been what it's just been old school football run the ball. They don't play defense. Well, this year they've got a quarterback and Joe borough has actually been throwing the football. So they've actually changed what they've done traditionally. And I've been throwing the football more and they've got success with SC to me. They've gone to the pass more. And why is that? Because I'm telling you from my perspective, I come to play USC. I want to stop that three headed monster at running back. Okay. I wanna stop car. I wanna stop wear. I wanna stop. I don't want them to go out and run the football down on throats, so they're actually falling into the game plan of what I think defends one. They want to me JT dangles to throw the ball forty. Right? So they're stack eight, nine in the box. They want him to throw the football. They're, they're basically saying, look, I saw it on tape. They're playing man to man coverage and saying, yeah, you're gonna get three or four times or opportunities to connect, but we feel you won't do that over. Course of a game to make those connections. We're going to load up. We're going to blitz you. We're gonna force you to have to throw. And if you just looking at one side of the field, that's where you saw Texas. They just race it. They sat there on all the routes and he had no time. And then you talked about the atrocious offensive line. That's just a recipe for disaster. And your defense is not turn a ball back over like you want them to wear it is the blame lie. Eight, seven, seven, seven, ten ESPN when it comes to USC is the coaches, the players? What combination thereof is it between the two, eight, seven, seven, seven, three, seven, seven, six eight, seven, seven, seven, ten ESPN. You can tweet us as well at Sodano ESPN for me at Kirk Morrison for Kirk. We'll get into that and coming up next. Oh, just when you thought Jon Gruden can open his mouth and silly stuff couldn't come out anymore. He says, one more thing that makes you realize he may be in over his head. We'll tell you what that is in just a second.
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