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S5E9a - 7 Things to Do Before I'm 30 [Part 1] (Featuring Samee Junio)

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S5E9a - 7 Things to Do Before I'm 30 [Part 1] (Featuring Samee Junio)

"You're listening to season five as mother. May I sleep with podcast. I'm your host Molly Matthew All right so we are covering for this episode. Our guest is Sammy Hunia. Who's also so our producer you mind semi everywhere on the Internet? Shook the description of this episode. I mean like you guys now how it goes at this point but anyway anyway. We're doing seven things to do before I'm thirty. I wanted to do a little Rom com moment this is filed on IMDB under comedy drama and fantasy which sounds right. It's definitely a fantasy. Sure of someone. Yeah definitely But basically weekly the IMDB. Summary says. Laurie Madison is a young woman turning thirty returns to her Colorado hometown discovers childhood list of seven things to do before she turns earns thirty and finds that she has yet to achieve any of them. So Laurie sets on a frantic and humorous quest to accomplish some before thirtieth birthday. Just three weeks away away. All right great. This is what the movie is but it so much more than that. It's this is made in two thousand tate. Do you know what movie this reminds me of like the style of it or the entire movie. Just if you were to walk away away with the vibe of like this is a lifetime version of a certain movie Oh is it thirteen going on thirty. I honestly think it's five hundred as as of summer. Go on. I'll tell you why there's this weird quirky retro style that they're trying to work in for the lead in the whole time hi most notably though her I guess. I don't know the guy who wants to love her but that she can't love knows her Favorite Song because why she sang in an elevator. The first time they met Okay so I WANNA ask you five hundred days of summer what are you you have to tell me because I figured it out. Okay and I know who y'all are stealing from where it's coming from where it's going and that's because I put in the work so oh I will say that we do you understand what I'm saying though now I think your little bit. It's very lake. This is the beginning of Manic Pixie Dream Girl Central for America League or Don Garden State. Right you're not yet hit five hundred days of summer America's a real L. Boehner for a weird girl and this girl is weird in the way that like you know it's very read it like not that kind of girl all layoffs weird where it's like. Okay it's actually not that strange to not prefer you know what some fucking basic check reads Cozma Osmo actually half the female population university. Mian right. Yeah I get that. So it's very not that Kinda girl it's very you know this is like that. It's like the Anti lifetime movie where she's not that pretty but here's the thing? The lead is fucking stunning. If anything I mean not Michelle Trachtenberg is is that Oh my God. You're so right dude. I was like screaming. I was like this is not not Michelle Trachtenberg convert. She has someone else in her face too though. And I can't figure out who it is but you're so right now that I open it Amber Benson. Yes No. I don't affiliate Amber Benson should have this movie held against her and incapacity and it does seem like she works. It seems like her work has picked up over the last two thousand eighteen eighteen two thousand nineteen calendar year. But I. I don't know I mean I don't know. I think this is just an acting role that you need to say no to someone to do it. But it's very I'm quirky I don't I don't have anything about my life together but leg. She like I it just it. was that right. Mixture surprised lifetime caught that lightning in a bottle though. Oh sure that's like that's like that's like them coming out with like shade of get out. I see yeah they they need like Doug your hooks until they can emerging like sort of John Reid that would define a generation which is the whole eternal Sunshine Manic Pixie like five hundred days of Summer Garden State. Like you name it all I see. Yeah okay so I feel like this is their version of that but again this is sort of in the vein of like I me wed or Queen sized where. It's just sort of opens up a little Bob like an overly done Like credits which reminds me very much of a very brady movie or something like that. I like sort of seventies floral. Yeah it just I. I yelled like in the first two seconds when it started. I was like no. It was not having a but at the same time it was between this and the bad twin and I still am glad you picked this good you. It was really light. It was a romp billing the league. Also there's a lot to get mad at a very bad so it's Yeah it's basically like a like a little lifetime Rom Com like movie which I find to be the the most frustrating and I feel like I want to explore that in season six maybe season. Six's knee discovering. Why these make me so angry but yeah So we're GONNA just go into this I should say that all of the title is in lower case. Yeah that for the numbers very very upset and the I. What do you think that is? Is that Tumbler culture. What is that the only the I I am as I I? I don't know I think that somebody just like forgot how titles work I don't know I think when someone goes all lower case that's a that's always as a an aggression will maybe it's because this list of hers was written when she was a kid and she didn't know so her grammar sucked yeah. Maybe that's generous Chris. I honestly feel like it's much more insidious than that I feel like this is some sort of Internet troll on us but it is only also two thousand eight. I wish I wish I knew like the exact weekend this came out. I feel like this is capitalizing on an era that I was very much the victim of okay so I will also say now initiative then came to me and I was watching this short also I was watching some people and they like just the way it's shot made me feel like it was already washes just with people I had to. But it's shot like an alternative children's program like Beakman's world. Oh yeah that's a good call and somebody else knows Beakman's world but somebody else so good yeah belly somebody somebody else said that. It looked a little bit like but I'm a cheerleader. Just the way that the the colors are especially in the beginning. I don't think I've seen but I'm a cheerleader. Anyway let's play fifteen to eighteen and just sorta let you know this is going to be fun quirky She's going to be I. Guess what we don't know yet that I didn't know when I started my notes but will we will know. Is that like. She's on some sort of blurred out background now. In the more we get to know her. The more that background will sort of come into focus and we're GONNA learn about where she's at right now but she's speaking directly to camera in her voice overs usually and There used used lake writing. The voice over was necessary to set up the movie but throughout the rest of the movie. It's used as almost an afterthought oh good which is lazy writing. I okay but like no offence. Actually no truly no offense to Duane pool fool who will see what else green Wayne Wayne will while you're looking at that. Did this movie remind the beginning being remind you of the truth about Jane starts with the video starts with Jane talking directly to camera. Yeah I guess so bird like. Here's my life wait. Let's start with the beginning like all of that shift about James like this is the last movie you know what I forgot. I totally forgot brought about that. And you're exactly right. It's such like it's the tool. It's the tool if you need to tell a fucking story and get it done in one hundred twenty seven minutes that the way you tell the story crazy okay but yeah. No dwayne is written a lot. I will say he's written wedding at Graceland. Oh big hit a hallmark. It looks like he also was a staff writer on hotel. The love boat lottery the biscuits. What the fuck is the biscuit? Would the children's cartoon okay. So yeah I mean Oh Laverne and Shirley in the army. He wrote that in the eighties. Okay so our man's been around for a while I have to say I do love the idea of Duane. Poole deciding that he's going to write his own manic pixie dream girl like his. I Dunno I guess late forties early fifties. I would assume maybe mid fifties based on the timeline. That's a move. Who Do you think Dwayne is Dan? Ear Michael Oher. Think Duan's all of them. I think it's much darker than that. I think they might be Laurie. But also but also like lawry's mom. There's a little bit of jewel in there. WHO's The I'd only I've ever had in character more than Joel? I wrote down it like halfway. Maybe a third page it. Goes you jewel a bunch. Oh my whole thing is very the explicit about Joel Skidoo our first part fifteen seconds to to eighteen. I love happy endings. Fairytale Jerry tell kind ever after I mean when I see a movie and I know that it ends with a kiss or a wedding I can sit back and enjoy all the surprises leading up to it and the thing is life isn't always like a movie. Sometimes life is only well life. You just have to live is best. You can and relax even if the group can't his name is Dan Heart. We met in high school and I knew right from the start he was going to be my personal happy. But I'm getting ahead of myself. Maybe I better start the beginning. Our Little Girl Lori stop please. Could we just stop right there. And not only because because my mom gave away a middle name that I've never really cared for. This is way too far back. We need to fast forward about thirty years braces Summer Camp Past College. Mrs Erm Clarke from Twin Falls Idaho to inform you that you've been chosen receive the reunite nine one of our many five stars. You a good morning. Miss Bombed Garden Ms Baumgarten knock. Your rent is paid. It's not A. I'm sorry it's just been a really rough month boy. Where does the money go go? Well Scout Cookies rescue people. He tried to give to everybody. But you know how it is all. I know how it is now. Let me tell you how it is. There's a waiting list for these apartments long as my arm. People Willing to pay twice. What you do? I'm sure that's true. Well expect the check by Monday. Okay so Let's set it up. We've seen another lifetime movie. That has the exact same sort have call scenario at the kitchen table Brittany Murphy story do member Brittany. Murphy's mom she made rent The landlords are these. He's too I guess Eastern European twins that I think that's right right. They're supposed to Russian twins. Oh I thought they were Irish. No no yeah Irish Heo no. Maybe I mean I'll take it. But they're basically out of a Disney Sitcom yes absolutely absolutely She's not forget her job. As a customer service Rubbers representative which I will argue throughout this entire movie that she actually is perfect. Perfect for that job but he's wonderful. I think she's great at it but we we also need to set up that she's eating a plate of donuts and this girl's sake you know not to focus on it but because the movie focuses on she's has a very lake normal or below normal body very like an average bod very average below average. Like not an American way in a movie way. Yes Lake like slim if she was a real person one hundred percent And so that always sucks. When you're watching a movie in the MOMS like your fat and like sobbing pastries stories out of her hand or they just like really like hang a lantern on the fact that she has some sort of eating addiction when reality she doesn't so it's like the fat version? I know putting glasses on an ugly like pretty girl. Yeah you know yeah but this whole movie is glasses on a pretty girl like the home movie is gas leading you into thinking. There's something really wrong with Laurie when she's actually a very pleasant average girl. Yeah definitely like we're supposed to be like no lorries. Laurie's behavior. Her problem is that she thinks she has a problem by as much as it's supposed to be inherited I don't think it is. Is I think. Laurie's just fucking batch. Shed like Lori needs a good therapist. It's actually scary when you think about this woman teetering on thirty and being unaware unaware about like her how her life has wound up this way. That's Fair Lake. It's okay to be thirty and unstable. It's not okay to be thirty and unstable and we like we like Q.. Like you should know some contributing factors I think instability does like low key. Which is maybe why she doesn't recognize it because you like even though it's so obnoxious the way that she breaks up with Michael or whatever is like kind of self-aware it is quote unquote of where even though it's really selfish and like stupid but then also at the same time? This is the woman who has made time and money money for the girl. Scouts Had adoption like this woman's out bank cookies from girl scouts and like five dollars to a pet adoption Russian agency. She can't pay her rent right and at at a certain point I will have to say. I don't think New York City is the city for you if that This is where you can San Francisco. Oh no no I said maybe. She belongs in San Francisco some. It's also very expensive there. Okay Portland wet but let I will say that I think the like. She's you know like this is how I was when I was twenty five. I think like just like this sort of lake What do you mean So we go to her at her real job now or I guess. It's like where she does her nine to five and it's the same job but she does it sometimes at home. which made me confused? Because I'm like girl. Just stay at home right. Why would you go into this place? She has a cubicle. That looks like a fucking garage. Sale like the whole thing is littered with posted and personal memorabilia. There's actually like a key chain a like a novelty key chain that she's tacked to the wall and like I don't know this. This is sort of the office that I say like when you set up an office that looks this nice. It means you're going to be fired like they always say like. Don't bring a plant in to work because like that means you're it's like you're comfortable. I see so she's very comfortable. Yeah she gets very caught up the customers on the phone and she sort of goes into their whole narrative. She finds out that the woman she's talking to as a baby. She has a friend who has a baby blah blah blah. which she's doing in the telemarketing industry is actually considered to be very effective? Because she's forming a relationship and the bosses overhearing all of this and I don't some of you guys have seen sorry to bother you. I think we should rank this against sorry to bother me scale. Have you seen it. Haven't okay. It's for me a former phone on fundraiser. It's like a total porno but also it's an amazing movie but it's all about like really like sort of establishing a connection over the phone and being able to follow up later later in which she's doing is selling vacation packages which seems like the perfect thing to be able to build a relationship with because her boss is watching her like make this phone call and he feels very frivolous and says that you know. She's been like offering Brownie recipes. A hiccup remedy a movie rack back to another woman in extended discourse on the pros and cons of vitamin B.. And I personally fail to see the problem with that because that is a very easy she recommended you a movie. Okay I call on Thursday and say hey get a chance to see the movie. I WANNA see if you're still interested in that vacation package is you have established established a level of trust with this person and not going to make the final sale. A cold call on a vacation. Package is fucking insane in this Bosch should be fired appeared but time is money molly it is but also he doesn't get it like the truth is is time is money. And she's putting it in by saying. Hey put too much much better in your brownies. We gotTa Bank it off in live a better life. So he said he's in review employment history. She's quit ten jobs in the last six years she was a pet groomer. Departments were employees. All these jobs in my mind are usually taken to quit later. Like pet. GROOMER departments were like even telemarketer. Like I don't think many people are going into that industry although there certainly are people that specialize in and are very good at that. I don't think anyone goes into their first telemarketing gig being like I'm going to do this for a career. Yeah but do you go into it like planning on getting fired because I think there is also like a culture of people who just continue just get fired from their jobs instead of just quit. No it's true and I think that part of me also is walking into that mentally with well she must be looking for something quote unquote bigger or more secure or or I'm also used to being in L. A.. Where people like will get a job with the sole purpose of eventually quitting? GotTa what's lorries deal. Because I actually think that that she could be a very successful salesperson itchy stuck with it because she does have that natural care but anyway The this whole scene is filmed a nineties. Music video the islands are off when she's talking to her boss like this scene where there. Oh you didn't. It's like when they're Aaron the cubicles. She's looking at her boss and our bosses again her but they're both sort of looking at the wrong direction and each other would just sort of like honesty reminded emme of almost like Bulworth. which is I think a perfect movie but it reminded me sort of those nineties? Movies were things were slightly disjointed right. Yeah Yeah Yeah and I wonder if it's in those not in this movie. I don't worry about that but in those movies I always wondered if it was more of like a stylistic choice or film trying to catch up up to lake where it needed to be. That's interesting idea I think about it. I will scored like a looney tunes. Oh yeah that's why like waited till the final music cue to play out on that one because like you need to hear it's like dude and that's actually the most enjoyable part about it is that Oh you know this was truly scored after the fact because like you know. There's this one scene where the MOM Lake Puts Cherry on top of lorries grapefruit and it. It goes Ding. And I'm just like bid you're too perfect. Get Out of here. I really want to know what they wanted us to think. In like what I would have thought in two thousand eight sure what I thought this was whimsical. I was pretty Basak in two thousand eight probably as might have held we into those eight was probably twenty four. No maybe when I moved out here I mean I had a closet full of early Pulitzer okay. It is interesting to think about like was made for people who already turned thirty or were on the cusp. Oh this was not made for people who are thirty. This is made for people who thought thirty he sounded old. Yeah okay you know like this seems like it was made for a twenty two year olds at Relig while they got a late. A fire under my ass going to be almost thirty fucking chic sort of vintage mailman. Although I will say all of her vintage clothes look like they came out of like a like a party city city mass mail box for like an entire theme of Austin Powers Party. She's wearing a lot of hatch. She's wearing a lot of the things that I like. The idea of you know like I'm like okay I can. That's definitely a nod like to a certain era. I don't know if the seventies were cool at this mailman at a big they were ever will. Will they've come back throughout time. But I think that what we're supposed to take away from. Ns is I mean maybe it was that perfected it with like the sort of fifties dresses but the seventies is very noncommittal. Sure okay so then we see a little head slowly rise over the side of the cubicle on her cube mate who we stand and we're going to hear a clip from him later but but he goes. I heard every word. Are you okay. And he goes how. `Bout we get drinks after work just the gang which like. Why didn't we ever forget to see? Who is the gang? I need it. I would have liked Laurie in the gang. I would like to scrap this movie and just make it. Laurie and the Guy I would love that so much and see where where exactly her co worker goes where he lives. Because if we didn't know how she wound up I would think maybe she goes back to the telemarketing job and then like lake. Laurie and the gang is a show. Like this is how it could be a good back door. Pilot is if we just wound up. Laurie back at the telemarketing thing with a renewed sense of yourself. And then we go into the series. Client lists of it So she goes to her boyfriend's photo shoot He is standard ROM COM hot. That's what I wrote my notes but when you guys should know is that he's Matt Oleander Mr L.. From Grassy. He fucked page. He was young long hot teacher that came to school and he's like a Ta from like University of Toronto and didn't know her brother or something. probably what was his brother's name. Luca was it Lucas. Or Luke Guy it was Marco and Luca Lucas yes I can hear his voice in my head. It's crazy yeah. I think he did know him. You play soccer rugby. That's more Canadian he was. I'm sorry why does heal in Senate page. Why does it come up one eight right when I fucking type in page which I am trying to work with you I am? DVD Dylan Michael. Chalk Yep Dylan. Now now I can picture Lauren Collins little face going my gay brother Dylan which is so wild. That Lake you know page was friends with the one gay guy at after school. He matched with her brother. Like that's wild Good for good for degrassi for keeping that circle type She goes to see Michael Chapman. Her boyfriend he's an art fashion and beauty photographer. When we go to this shoot every girl at the shoot is dressed? Dressed like a mixture of Jessica Simpson and Kim K.. And their two thousand eight worst with but like going out outfits like none. None of them were Mottley. They're all very lake. Hi I'm Jessica Simpson and I'm going out not to a nice event but I'm going to lay do and yes. I got my hair and makeup done and they all look very just sort of mean girl. The VIBE is that they're all very hungry Lori is like slamming ruffles at this in Hungary. Water Jokes I know me too and I stared into a mirror. Got celery instead. There you go. We'll know then you pass down your salary like these squirrels are there. She's like Oh a salary Not For me. So she's there and like we're all supposed to draw many conclusions from that and then he's like lorrimore take some pictures cheers of you. And she takes pictures and I can relate to the fact that she couldn't find a face like every picture was blurry 'cause she was is like trying to figure out what to do with yourself. Oh I didn't even realize that. Yeah 'cause they kinda like show is he shoots each person like they're still that came of it and all of these were like when I take pictures of wounds trying to get treats like just like fucking in motion van as I can relate to that like not knowing what to to do in front of like a photographer. Where do I put my hand? This heat man. Yeah but anyway listen. So Oh yeah I did want to know what did you think. They're modeling totaling for. I wrote Adam and Eve. I thought they were just modeling for the Shitty Art. Michael had an apartment like commercials. Shoot or like just like his own his own collection. Did you notice the pictures that are in his apartment now. You're all so bad but there are pictures that he took. I'm pretty sure that's like very very I don't think any photographer Redo that Michael. What's his face took real liberties when he wrote this Wayne Twain? Okay so back in her place or eating Chinese out of the Carton classic movie move. She doesn't know how to use chopsticks. Sound in the scene is so they like really really really leaned into the chopsticks. Noise is really bad. You probably listen a lot more carefully than your average person perhaps. Wow Wow what a hell you live in. She cheers up at the ROM com. They're watching he's like what's wrong. It's a happy ending. She's like I know. Oh do you want more winds. She goes to get wine. And she's GonNa get Kleenex and a fork and while this happening Michael takes ring from his pocket. He's going to pop the question Christian. What a romantic proposal? She's like hey. Are you still doing Owens baseball practice tomorrow. Are there cheerleaders you leaders for baseball. I could be a cheerleader. And he's like yeah. Owen loves you. which is like fucking bizarre dude like this whole? Think think once this. It's like bizarre in theory but then when it comes to fruition it's fucking insane so she comes in and he turns off the TV Even though a Meg Ryan movie is about to come on and just as he opens his mouth her landline starts to ring. And he's I don't worry about it just the the landline rings and rings and rings because lorries poor and should turn off her voice. Now which is a thing. That's a culturally sentenced on moment Her Mom Who's disappointed that she still dating Michael? He answered the phone and she scurries off to another room to talk to her mom. Her Mom had center a book about fifty fifty ways to use a rubella. And this is. We're going to learn that. Her mom spent most of lorries live trying to give her an eating disorder. Yeah So we seem Michael Coaching his nephew later in the park. It's literally the two of them softly tossing a baseball back and forth which makes it so absolutely unhinged embarrassing that Lori is there and assign which by the way if you ever gotten to a protest march whatever you you know the time it takes to color in a letter okay. She has go owing in all bubble thoughts okay. Black outline completely filled sold out inside each letter a different color each one that time come on you know. She saw their mismanaged her time with. Like a fucking one fat sharpy. She can go for late. This super thick know sharpy Crayola. She sat there and she did that all night for a non baseball game with one child. Yeah practice so she's hollering go owen. it's not cute. So Owen hits. The ball hits a little ball moment in the ball comes flying towards Ori all of a sudden. We're back into the voiceover but we can you like really also explained. There's no one there one of the her him her Michael in Owen. That's it three of them and she. There's a picnic basket assigned. She drew. I mean I would call the cops. Okay no I really would they get. I was owens mom I be like yeah. I don't feel safe like this is a lot Let's play eight thirty nine to ten forty four looking back also just baseball coming at me. It was my future. What happened is a game over? Yeah lost and I ruined our practice this. This is the only second fire on Michael. You'RE GONNA die. Well she's allergic to What is this great great? I Love Great. I'm sorry I would have been a home run if I didn't get in the way boy. You're you know much about baseball do you. No no no no. It's just a bump. I'm fine be fine I I can't Miss Work Tomorrow is Mondays and I need to prove that I'm serious about my job. One thing I know for sure I am sticking to job I quit imagine my surprise that man just lost his dog and he needed somebody to talk to. I cannot work someplace where common human decency he is. Not Part of the company policies. So just you know. Give me my severance pay and you will never have to see my face again. Severance is for those who've been severed take another thirty seconds and you would have been pinning so close. Madison close it. Hey girl. I'm so sorry It's Monday you have something for us about my rent. We'll miss you. I wish I could like bander snatched my way through this movie more than anything. I've Ever Seen Language Regina it'll I would love to tap on like her co worker and be like follow me on his journey early. She goes for drinks lake. You know I feel like I could easily. We sort the situation out if I was Laurie. I kinda just WanNa like solve it really quickly and be like Just streamline these things like you don't have to get so worked up up also there's questions here about do you think that she got from that baseball hitting her in the head. That's the thing that the football players have that like makes them no. She started up at okay because I have to say the only other thing besides that does look like a major concussion in in the works that she had which is also you know head injuries like literally while I just made light of it not to be made light of yes. I'm Simon Birch is. His friend's mom died because of the baseball to the temple. Remember then movie no but I am glad to know that Simon Burgess who I thought it was When you said that talk I think like Oh wait? Why shouldn't I should know Simon Birch like he must be a prestigious actor? No I know. He's the little kid who played baseball. Paul Ryan was he a kid. Yeah he was a little okay. I feel you Sam okay. It's Laurie recalls her friend Joel. After she's been a victim in Joel Lake. Mr Proposal quit her job. All this stuff. Jewel is a pretty suburban mom who's very over the top with her. DIY snacks overall mom nece as she reminds me a little bit of the sister in twelve men of Christmas just in that Lake. She's very financially resourceful. have no really no real idea. Why although the thing that she's missing? Is that amazing chemistry with a partner like Chris China with no chemistry with whoever this friend Lori says. There's nothing she can do her. Bank Account Hound is. Is that zero right now. She can ask her mom for any more money And Jewish like. Just come home. It's time we had a good catch up. Am I good for you like scum mom. Laurie doesn't want to give up. She tells her that she's not giving up. She just needs a break. It's important to step back and find out what's going on. So she's conflicted about moving home um says she doesn't want to be like your brother and Jules Lake. It's not like that needs to pack your bags and get your ass back here and like I. We don't know what's wrong with her brother at the time. I assumed it was very bad. Sure like her brother was a real loser as opposed to like the actually really acceptable guy that I would tell most of my friends to marry. I mean for like a fucking random guy. I think he's great but I think he kind of wants to murder his mother. Oh yeah that's true dating material. I guess a little bit but the mom. Tom Is honestly. If you've suffered the mother that long is is asking for. I just know I don't think she's asking for it. I just feel like he would have killed Sir if he was going to. Okay she's tough sure So joyful threatens our job by saying Anthony I mean neten kissed this watercress go by making little sandwiches So Michael Practices proposing the lorry in the mirror. She comes in and she's like I quit today and he's congratulations. They don't understand you anyway. long-term not agree reaction. have to your girlfriend getting fired from her job not great that she said the day before she will not quit no matter what like at least ask another question. We bends down or on one knee to propose post to her and she sits right down next to him and she says like this relationship it should be easy but it's not easy. I need to move home. And he's like you can't leave any like brings out the ring box and she's full of dread and she's like listen. Don't do that. I know what's going on. He's like what do you mean. And she's like a ring like that six months of a relationship. I see where this is going but I can't let you go through with it six months. Yeah Dude we're not support. We shouldn't be hold to lie. Wouldn't at all not okay. I would not assume if I was dating a guy for six months and I would not assume that was ever on the other side of that ring box is an engagement ring in. Mb Lake so confident about it. I'd squash it before the box could be opened opened right. You wouldn't be government. I would not be confident that there was an engagement ring in there. Oh Sherrie very sane and say to myself who the fuck is getting engaged after six months but I mean do y friends give rings just for funsies there could be earrings in there. Are there could be a promise ring. There could be a little pendant a broach like. Yeah sometimes you get jewelry comes in other exterior your exterior packaging than engagement ring box. which by the way is red and I think mental sort of Cartier but does not? It's like clearly I I. It's from Amazon. I have that box for shore. It's what my clattering ordered came in. I think six months is really early. It's it's way way too quickly and for how I don't know for how devoted he is like trying to get her to be his wife. He's a hard end New York fashion photographer. Refer who has lost his mind over this girl. Yeah which God bless him you know we love. We love that. He has loved and he's non-discriminatory discriminatory in the sense that lake. She's basically a homeless Weirdo. He's probably just not from New York shoutout to all my homeless beer does out there. I you can just see. No data's like I really truly feel. Laurie struggled a lot. I just find it. I don't know. I think that they will be shocking. If I mean I find it a little presumptuous of her honestly to assume that this man is proposing there which. I don't think it's presumptuous. But you don't know I don't think so at all. Oh I would be like well. He can't possibly be doing that. Yeah sure I don't know I just feel like if somebody's going to be pulling out a box. It's probably going to be something serious. I don't know I guess so. I guess so I mean you can stand your ground can differently. No I know we I mean we should think differently. I think that's important here but I also gas so she's like listen. I just lost my job my apartment. I can't lose you to the other shoe will drop and he goes. There's no shoe and she goes. There's always a shoe Michael She says she's insecure and that she needs to work on herself. That's good we stand that Lori. That's great She's like look. I really really really really like you. Hardly Rage Aspen. First of all we know where you got your song secondly you were they not saying I love you. I mean probably not Laurie. If she's thing I don't know Louis Michel just on one on 'cause maybe this I used to be on an investigation into Michael. Probably I mean. Israel leander literally is never had great intentions spoiler but the note note that he left was just serial killer note that he left on her bed went at the end of the near the end of the show. Yeah so much. He's in he's not he's not I I don't like them. Yeah he's fixated on her. Yeah he's like. Oh you said no lake absolutely nobody says no to me. It is very lake. Stereotypical stereotypical role reversal. For what I feel in real life Lakewood happen lake with a stray girl in street guy. Like I feel like the guy I been GotTa fucking got a buggy man like. I'm not myself and the jokes like no. I'll fuck in fix you like that's sort of more. They tried to do a little role reversal here and in the process. It just comes off way too murderers. Yeah no yeah okay. So Michael Absolutely destroy this when she calls her mom her mom is working with an interior designer on her home. That's important to know. Just because she does say no animal prints Prince. He's a vegetarian in this scene. which is incredible? Let's wave fourteen fifty five to sixteen o three. It takes a lot to send a grown woman. b-actor mother what choice did I have. Obviously my life needed direction and right now that direction was west. My told me there was something back home I needed to resolve before I get on with my life. I didn't know how to break the news to my mom so I waited till like up to South Dakota. I should be there sometime tomorrow afternoon. I smack happens. Didn't I tell you you left home too soon. You weren't ready. No animal prints vegetarian. Twenty nine years old. If I waited too that I was old enough I'd be fifty. There's nothing wrong with fifty Lang. It's the new forty like orange. Is the new black. We're the trendsetters Oprah says thank you uh-huh you and just you learn to cook what you'd be surprised what I can do lately. I've become very domestic google recipe for roast. It's probably under made or some think. Think Seriously Laurie come for a month a year. Until you're ready whenever you eight after all. This is your home. ooh So lorries. Mom is basically like that mom that Mrs Bom Garden are the name of the Neighbors by the way German. So fuck IOS right Right I don't know if that's German Herald says if they're MEX- we don't know maybe they are half virus half German. I don't know But I will say that lake. We all had that friend in college or whatever that was like no though like you. Don't get it my mom is like she's on a real one like she's fucking crazy like this is when you go to their house and you're like oh she is fucking crazy. Yeah 'cause you always try to tell your friends like no come on about it ever. Everyone's is Mama neuner. No she really is that She reminds me of my high school. Boyfriend's mom actually very much like her so She drives home all the way home in this little car. I didn't figure out the model of it. It looks like a v. w. what is that looks like literally really like if I had to pick a year. Seventy seven. Seventy eight seventy seven. Yeah that looks about right And of course she's just in like a little. Isn't that weird that like. I know nothing about cars but I can always tell you when a car was probably made I love. It's one of my favorite things. I love a good lake. Eighties Mercedes it can early eighties Mercedes. That's my jam. It had false. I fall in that world for fifty. So Earl Yeah Lake and by the way they're cheap and you can convert them but that's still expensive so anyway. She drives home brothers hydro in the driveway. He's very happy to see her. The Great. That's nice right away. We know they have a good relationship. It's not like the brother in St is to triple X. And she noticed that he has a will skydiving. Hi Diving Printed on the side of his yellow Van. He now runs skydiving business which to me. Sounds like a pretty good business in Colorado. Ah like will is painted as an absolute loser throughout this entire movie but to me seems like nothing but just fine. He's a nice dude. Really sweet actually like game I in love with will I think so I think no I actually really do think I I'm nervous fucking call someone okay so so we're GONNA go inside and we're GonNa meet her crazy bat shit mother Seventeen nineteen thousand nine hundred thirty five a I should add that. She's holding a loose fishbowl throughout all of this as if she drove across the country with with leading uncovered fishbowl in her car. Bless you how do you suppress your sneezes like that. That is dark. Sami like you can't not sneeze like what the fuck was press everything well like clearly like literally the fact that I. I'll never seen a human do that twice in a row. Oh my God zine no no maybe like maybe we were recording. I was busy and I didn't like but no I've never seen someone like Tuck to sneezes. Where did that go in my heart? I got a massage you would ball. Yeah Yeah I would have have. Yeah I feel like bodywork is probably a nightmare for you. It's not great avoid. Would you rather go to talk. There appear boura massage. Oh ooh probably talk therapy holding those Niessen Hold onto these in. That is wild Sammy. Wow you guys. Can you hold a sneeze comment below. Ah I'm wearing my tampons pleasure. I love you guys know. I know we actually got a note from one of you guys that you wrote to me. After for the Jake fogleman's episode where he mentioned that I was wearing my tannock on and I do want to let you know yes I am Tanna but a to. I literally sent my friend Liz. I bought her the same day. Bought my own Tannock on sweatshirt which is well worn at this point I send her her tannock annacone sweatshirt two weeks ago. Boy I am tennakon. It's been three years. I send someone Tannock on Hoodie. Three years late. I mean like is that my daughter. I don't know okay I'm just kidding. She has boobs and I don't so it could never be my child but she's walking around on with this loose fish thing. Okay let's keep going seventeen nine thousand nine hundred and nine hundred thirty five. Oh Oh it must have been even worse than you sad Chad. Have you lost weight. No no think so. I'd almost forgotten what you look like. You what is the new color. The package said autumn something. I took a chance so small I promised you a roast remember. Mom Oh no apart. We'll do something about the Dan taking accident last month Everything to be right for you tonight really. I think all I need is a good night's rest I understand completely tomorrow's the first day of the rest of your life. Everything she knows you from a cocktail Such we'RE GONNA turn it into a craft room. Oh Darling I doubt do handicrafts. I have people for that. Besides how can I touch your room. It's just so twilight zone. What's that Oh that let's paint by number painting that you are so excited about back in summer camp? You framed it. It's not finished. There's a whole shelf of your stuff in the garage. Half dollhouse off a science project half of a stamp collection have a palm dress that you were so determined to me. Well let's face it. You love to start things but you weren't big on follow-through and that's what you had your mother and did I mention it's good to have you home if you WanNa talk. I'm still just down the hall. We can have half a conversation. Okay so the brothers and go all. Aw Matching White Adidas tracksuit but it is embroidered with a w which we stand she is wearing something. That's very anthropology of this Sara. It's like a little bit of like a white colored shirt moment underneath a over. Yeah underneath like this sort of you've I don't know it's like it's like Indian prince meet milkmaid. Oh Shit Yeah. Do you know what I'm saying when you absolutely. It's very anthropology in that sense by the way like I guess this is like her trying to be like them trying to show that she's haggard it but she has a side ponytail. That one might have after hours of driving your okay. Yeah she looks fucking normal like she looks like a child who's been driving across the country for threes lake. A really beautiful girl. That's been doing that. She's also well-maintained. Where the fuck is bitch been sleeping? It's not like a twenty four hour drive New York Colorado. So let's go through. MOM IS ZONA set afire. Page one of the newspaper. We do know that now will is very quick with a comeback. We stand that her childhood bedroom is I don't know. I thought the paint by numbers picture that she never finished was kind of Sheikh. Usually beautiful like I feel like in terms of that. That in the art and injured goes West Lake when the guy just like spray painted onto pictures he picked up at goodwill like that to me. A half half done paint by numbers is much more visually interesting. All right I would think about that forever. Yes so we know that. She's not that good on follow-through she's living in her teenage bedroom. It's really blown out bedroom. It's her cubicle. But it's ORIG- girl bedroom. Yeah we'll their houses huge. Yeah they seem to be doing well considering that her parents both big drug dealers when they had her in the seventies India's like her mom looked like she did cocaine off of her pinky. Now died lake was selling in the parking lot at red haired. Sharon Darren Osborne. Wow but now she's fancy interior designer. I would love to know they never really got into whether or not there was like a string of ex husbands or lovers like whatever omam's corneas buck. Though so when she's alone she goes through closet and finds a box and in it. There's an old candy necklace. She takes a bite VHS like a home movie memory moment An address adress addressed to her brother. That looks like a love letter. Yeah and then And then I wrote my notes here did she cock block him or catfish him. does does little like wind up chatter teeth toys and then she finds a list ambitious with the whole movies about okay so she takes a list and she reads it and this is very very important because this will shape the film and the rest of her life a twenty forty eight to twenty one thirty to the seven things they reformed thirty rockstar skinny dipping. Tell the truth get attached to my mother. Ten Sunday Danny Mom and well were right. Michael was right. Even Mr Webster was right. I hadn't been able to complete anything in my life but a job painting not one single thing that list so one of the things on the list is this is an acting choice. This is is dance under the moon. And when she says dance under the moon she kind of says where she like puts her tongue like just leg between her teeth. Sort of like almost as if she's reminiscing about other time she's dance under the moon whereas a pure person would have no reaction into that as they would have no associated feeling so I have to ask myself lawyer you a fucking liar or what also house even possible that you've done any of like haven't done any of those things right isn't hard slyke skinny dipping. Not Hard right apologizing to your brother not hard for giving your mother's that's something you can do on your own. You won't have to bring anyone else in some people's entire lives not giving their mother and right and like even in with forgiveness right. There's layers to that. You can forgive surface wise you you can do it face to face and just like half forgive you go deal with the rest of it later. It will be a lifetime of pain but like this is my question is what would inspire a character to be like. I should do more with this. I would look at that and be like not embarrassed embarrassed but maybe you have compassion for myself. Okay Yeah I did. She say like how old she wasn't you she never really get around to it. Probably Day reference like oh because of the stationary. I know how old you are. And they never say how old she was. I assume now probably between ten and thirteen. Maybe they don't say thirteen specifically because the thirteen going on thirty which came out two years prior to this really. Yeah wow so. I almost wonder if this guys out what they're pitching like. Here's like you know not like the other girls girl. She's about to be thirty. Oh she she has to go revisit this list but we're not GonNa do it screwed style. She's literally GonNa have like a major regression after getting hit by a baseball and move home home unable to pay her rent or maintain your human relationships. Then find this list and then go through it in real time. 'cause wasn't the magic of thirteen going. Going on thirty was that she literally physically left her body and then came back Yak backup thirty see. That's the worst part is like if thirteen going on thirty was real real life then everyone would have seen her be a fucking mess for like all year while she figured it out. Yeah that's that's unseemly. Emily is so funny is it. I don't know so Mama's bussing the kitchen and she's like you know what I don't care what the client wants. I need to make this nice. I don't know what that I don't know why I wrote that. On my notes I guess. Oh her MOM's working on fabric samples so she's making breakfast right now. Things need to be familiar with the way that they are at home. So she gives Laurie half a grapefruit and she tells you used to live grapefruit. And she's like you thought. I loved grapefruit. Her brother who it is a very slender man. And I do want to point this out. Because maybe she's just trying to maintain both of their weights but for some reason he has a fucking late of pastries and bagels. So like I actually hadn't thought of that. Maybe it's also she's trying to control will's body as well beef up her son in sending mountain to the world like a real man oh maybe and make her daughter model thin. I don't know if DWAYNE got into that emotional homework but or will is rebelling against the thing and he's like mother. You can't control me. Can you Google dwayne pool is gay. Hey like I mean I'm A. I'm not asking you to do that. I'm asking if it's possible because I feel like that would explain a lot light probably because I feel like that would explain Wayne. Maybe some of his secret desires maybe some of his insight onto eating disorders. Yeah I mean that would make sense a although straight men do IBM DISORDERS SPE- real. Also you can and not Google is Duane poole gay. What about just Duane poole gay? I did start uh-huh and what I got is Palm Springs. Gay Friendly Hotels dwayne Johnson Dog. Brutus dies after. Oh come on I just US gay hotel women who could be his plan. Is Dwayne dwayne pool drained or drained. He drowned the rocks. Walks dog to get us off the trail. Oh Sh- because he's like what will take over you. Know is D. U. A. N. E. EH DU. Yeah it unlocks a new level level of Google but no truly that's sounds like a viable conspiracy that he writer of this movie drowned the rocks dog enough on sexuality. Um that is a definite qualification. So she tells her mom that she's almost thirty. Things shouldn't be the same. It's almost like the last ten years of her life didn't happen erm goes of course I they happened. How else would you have made such a mess of your life? God that mom I know. And then she hits the grapefruit with the little thing with that Sherry And I liked that this movie in particular commitment to an aesthetic because the cherry was something that they made room for in the budget right that was is written in like she tops. It with a cherry there were the score to it and they wrote like the scene to it. It's the moment and I do like that like there's also this this thing here for me. We're on Lake will forgiving. Your daughter agree fruit while you also starting your day with Cherry most sugary substances known to man right Garesh Garesh right and I think it's just because it's like everyone's stuck in time. This is also timer. We eat half a grapefruit with cherry on it like it's like the beverly. The Host Hotel poolside in nineteen seventy nine. So now we get to meet jewel. Who I am so thrilled about will also see a little bit of a flashback? Back the way she delivered her monologue in the beginning and see a flash of the list. So we're GONNA start to see like that's what you're hearing here. Twenty twenty three thirteen to twenty four nineteen. God it's so good to see you. I can't tell you missed you. Say hello to your Anti Laurie. Or I'm donating these cupcakes to charity. My safe thanks. Hey you go via what do you say. That's the best thing you ever. I really envy when Mark. These kids should have a couple of your own. What about Michael? He will from one again. Tell me the truth. This is because you're still on that one. Dan Heart okay. I believe coincidences happen. For a reason I mean I haven't thought of them in years years and then suddenly twice two days Dan please you know he never really took me seriously. Oh that's not what I remember. But if that's the way he wanted to play was anybody heard from him. As a matter of team was back last spring she took over the Carolina from willow. We should take a test drive. I'm not talking of up. Butter is not a toy. I want a peanut butter to be a Gerbil or something so bad. What did he have inside of it? It was like peanut butter with some pretzels. Sticking out of it it. It wasn't like I will see that the way she delivered. That line was one of the best. Comedic moments of this movie is very funny as That was good. Didn't stick with me so much second third time but the first time I was generally like I would like to see the punchline to that the best way to describe jewels kitchen is like she's just a bitch with a lot of stuff like it looks like she. Her place looks really lived in Lake. She has kids and I almost second. Did they film this like in someone one involved in the productions home because it did have that feel right. Yeah especially when they cut to. The kids is like really oddly dark happened it felt like a real family house and then you also realize maybe she. Her character just has like a lot of time at home goods because she's not making like cupcakes and just just making cupcakes. They're stacked out on like a cupcake tree. Yeah and that's not something you own unless you're either frivolous or you're making cupcakes. Oh case all the time to meet like once in a lifetime experience I think she makes all these things once and then laid the watercress sandwiches one time wanted one and done that was a She bought a cookie cutter that day and needed to like make it a part of her life. Everything looks like it was very which is interesting because jewel does not come back a lot throughout this movie. She only comes into ruin shed. Yes you just wreck shit. Jeans are a wasteful and I can rule google. There's a couple pieces of evidence for that one. Her terrible children that are going to leave a carbon footprint that will never recover from and to just like the random amount of like fucking baking crap. She thinks she needs this. Jewel does not want to bake. She derives no pleasure from this. This is jewel thing she needs to do right because yes yes she all she wants to do is just stir up some chick she's bored. She's got three kids and no time. Her horny nick for Dave Confuses me. And we'll talk about this a lot. So Danny Danny Iro Dave here wants him. I know it's not going to be one of those movies where I call the same y different names of the same letter the whole time so large is by in size Dan at the car lot but doesn't say hi And she recaps that to jewel later in her room. And there's a lot of shots in this movie. That seem very expensive and that they didn't need to do because what they do. is they go from jewel. And her being at Jewels House to her driving by in seeing him in the car lot. That's its own shot. And then they cut back. Act Two lorries. Mom's house where she enjoys standing in her childhood bedroom. Sort of recapping this. So that's like three setups ups just for this one minute of time in this movie and I don't know how they justified the budget in that because they also had to wardrope wardrope her lake reward roper for this that scene where she drove by Dan's rate. Yeah so I don't know uh but also lead to jewel babysitter like this all the stuff I want to know. It's there the car that's all so jones like lawry's mom comes in looking. I'm very goth like hot. vampy Old Lady Goff enjoys like looking good Mrs Madison. 'cause please call me Vanessa jewel. We'll should have never had that privilege unlocked. Because she's like. Oh have a nice night Vanessa. Though much she's very much that person you never wanNA give access or privilege to the at least startling abusing it And Vanessa's going on a first date. That night she says it's just dinner. Don't wait up so Vanessa's a slot. which the jury also renew come on? Yeah Yeah I think also I want to get into that more like we never talk about. Mom's dating life Life Lake. Sort of how. She's been able to sort of float this life as a sole provider for a family where she seems to be working nonstop but also also carrying her two adult children. Where's the money coming from from? A two income household is from wayland probably from well on also. Is it dead dead or as dead. Maybe it's a dead Hoti way past. Yes so the phone starts ringing in lower yells brother to get it like. I think that this is supposed to be in like she's a teenager again mode because she's like well get the fuck look at phone. Yeah he won't answer and I wrote probably because he's jerking off. During one of the moments of privacy he gets is a grown man living with his mom and sister Mr True like good call. Pass Molly she answers the phone. And it's Michael and he's like. Hey look. I got the big campaign with that Teen Fashion Magazine xena been working on. I just want to tell someone This is like such a sad moment because it just reminds me of Lake when you have good news news and like the only person you have to call his your ex and NYC. 'cause they're the person you're like. Oh who tell something good to yeah and then like. They're not not there with you like they're not on that level with you and so they're just over it and they're kind of like he's like she's like that's great my gall. Congratulations congratulations here. He's like it's it made me so sad like because they just was like this is one of those few moments in life or your truly receiving leaving information. But it's like not showing up in any way that it's been given to you. Yeah like basically Michael Need to take a cue you here and be like she doesn't care anymore. Hang Up. Got Some friends. A to Rock break-up too. Yeah but it is rough. No I feel like it's really hard to find a new person like even if you had another person in your life at used to tell things to before that person they sometimes they just don't tell anyone anything. 'cause I'm like Whoa like whatever like I've told things to people and I've not told things to people Glenn either way it's the same. Yeah that's true So she hangs up on him. Basically she tells jewel that this is yet another unfinished first thing in her life the one great thing she really fucked up in jewels like okay give she goes. Okay give what's going on. And she says the Jewish should see Eagle is that she made so she reads it and she kind of roaster a little bit as she goes down. She's like Oh skinny dipping. She's like what I've never been in. She Goes Oh yeah. That's right. The whole body issue thing So jewel wasn't really attuned. Invest Friend I would say it's probably the same best friend she was years ago is no grew out of it happens a lot when people don't leave home. Oh for sure over shore. It is sad to see friends grow apart like that though. Yeah and it's also scary to think that Lori felt like this would be a retreat from her day to day. Life is going back to people. Well she technically has no connection to anymore because if you will already has three. It looks like they're above. Like five year olds. How long has she been a mom? What is lawry's family? Planning your journey right back probably plant. Yeah ritual got a planet if you want so we learn stuff with her mom and her brothers very personal then we cut to the end of the list. which is married Danny so This is super exciting for jewel. Because she it seems like wish that she had married Danny I don't understand why. She's so invest in Danny throughout throughout this movie He's basically Danny is this and I want to figure out a way to say this without it sounding incredibly shitty but basically like he is a townie. Yes never left home if he did. It was for a brief period of time right and now he runs the used car lot. And he's a very good looking guy ish like he's probably probably the best looking guy in town and at one point the two of them shared a romantic connection would sounded like their teenage years. Yes so in. What world is this like? Yeah go get Danny Big Fish Small Bowl but is is he really jewels husband. Because he's the provider clearly right at home goods every day. Yeah I wrote on my notes. I'm questioning whether or not actress US jewel originals. Like listen you came here to turn away Veron and you should use this list as a map jump. CUT The two lorries face laying on a tattoo beds screaming. She's finally going to go through with something wants in her life. Obviously this is supposed to be some sort of comedy like spikes seen but if you've ever had a tattoo I feel it's very distracting to watch this scene with any sort of purity because no the tattoo artist would take someone who when you put the Stencil on them is like yeah no absolutely not I feel like there's a misconception Shen that there's not etiquette that happens on a tattoo or piercing plays Very reckless for a place where permanent life decisions are being made. Did you feel like you see like people be like. Oh Man I'm going to get out to like. How do you say to your friend? You don't post on the Internet. You don't write a scene about like literally Schill out that could never this is. This is one of those things it's like literally like hot air ballooning like it just doesn't happen in real life. It's a movie thing. The Wayne Pool does not have pet. Two's enough for sure you agree. Yeah do you think he is as nipples pierced. No Me Youtube for that. Rain has up. DWAYNE is up if you've got your nips peers. If you don't please don't contact my lawyer so I was GonNa make a threat but I really don't way nothing. Love Year. Must be okay. So we're supposed to believe that our pain intolerances so low A.. which actually again makes me not like her? I will say that the Tattoo artists so is giving the major John Waters Vibes. He felt like his casting very real and organic or like he genuinely is like. This is where I start to wonder. Is Duane poole the ECLECTIC man I think he is because I feel like Duane poole maybe like a hot sexy theater company in the eighties that he didn't New York and like this is one of his friends that he's brought with him throughout the years. That'd be cool. Yeah so like then I see Dwayne. Yeah he's employing his friends we stand. That is that too much to look into into. I wonder who I am DB really quickly. I looked earlier. I think he's like he popped up in a documentary that we should probably look. I have to say though. Oh I mean if dwayne pool is one thing it's a survivor like he really is survivor. This man has done it. All this been writing this quirky comedy like moment for lifetime in thirty years after his career started started. We gotta give props. I mean also especially if he started out in children's television that might mean that his residuals residuals and stuff were not in shack because like children's television doesn't get the same residuals for writers as it does for like a regular prime time. Sick Shit really. Yeah so Dwayne was probably kind of like you know living lean can you. The pool was spent his entire life. Doing nothing. But fucking working and being a nice person probably like here I am you Dwayne us. Really Living. Lean like the years that he wrote on the smurfs like who knows what. WJ Okay scale was back then but no like you do not get you. Don't get the same residuals and then he sort of landed happily in TV movie land. It seems like but he pitched everything from I mean. It looks like he did a lot of what sound like hallmark movies. Oh man and also some of these links are leading to you know where yeah okay. Christmas memory like drained pool right. Oh that's sad. Oh wait no. You're alright though we Truman Capote road on. Oh okay okay. So he adapted something called a Christmas memory. Truman capote's as a Christmas memory so he worked with. I mean was he possibly alive now. Yeah he died in eighty four. Was this movie made. Oh it was made ninety seven so posthumously respect but I will say that Dwayne got his hustle on for short so so. We have ways over from Laurie as she takes the plastic wrap off of her new tattoo. Seeing the getting this done was the first step in her going the direction she always always wanted she was always afraid to be just anyone but just anyone doesn't have a butterfly ankle but I was I was was there irony in that. I hope so Dwayne. I don't think there was ever had wayne does not have a decade ago. It was dark time I mean I they have a butterfly to fuck you do. Oh I was thinking though the other day when I watched us it was like the way the league. Von Dutch is coming back. Doc and like all these things I would not be shocked if people start getting varies in butterflies. Are we GONNA GO BARBED-WIRE I hope not like. Are we going to see some tick tock boys with barbed wire tattoo. Oh God I hope not. So her mom comes into the room. Exporting pick up her laundry and spots or new tattoo and and her mom's not mad at she's like Good my daughter went out and got some last night got some tattoos but like truly though like I think pitch. I assumed that she was afraid of her. Mom Finding out about the Tattoo Mama's quite happy to see it. They they have a they have a weird relationship ship by this point is like look at me. Mom Take me all my fat body fat leg. Yeah Yeah Yeah I'll see you in hell bitch tangle with butterfly. He's not fat either way though. Lake the butterflies super unfortunately gets a blown like black and white butterfly. It's very like tribal adjacent. Is probably what they would have called the style at the time like. We're it's SORTA like we mashed up nine styles of tattoos from this era in came up with this We cut to. This is another scene that that was a complete waste of money We cut to Laurean jewel at the gym. Jewel has not changed out of her day to day. Close she's sort of like there to emotional support source for Laurie It was very soft. Comedy Oh I wrote that. This was almost like Remember member Audrey from Ellen. No she was like Ellen's wacky friend. Like go like what's going on. She was like Alan's dumb friend. Every character in this movie was Audrey Lake. visit whole movie was just. How do you not know who audrey from? Allen is I Only know of Ellen. I know Allen I know Allen because she is my godfather but no I only know episode of Ellen came out on. I don't think I was. I wasn't old enough to like really absorb it at all. Yeah I I take not to me. It's like kind of like the only other character one might now look a little bit league frazier like you know Niles. Yes right if you know frazier but like you don't whatever so okay Gills. All dressed up in a full outfit Narrative for the gym at all. And she's like how long to keep this up. I gotta go. Lorries is basically just like I'm I'm going. Then that's it. That's the last we see of the gym this entire movie. How much money do you think it costs to do is set up like that? That's half half a day Yeah probably probably have to create a gem or they went to a hotel gym wrestling eat. Maybe yeah maybe it's all very under the aesthetics of the film so everything's is very pink and like very you know it's it's all this this movie rape right but that Jim never took place at any other part. They had to do wardrobe for that whole scene. They had to do a setup for that whole scene they defined a location set addressing everything else. I thought most of this movie was GonNa take place in jam based on that scene. Just because I'm thinking like he must have had more money to do these back then probably I mean from the like driving in the car seat. Yeah there's a lot there are a lot out of an airplane Yeah a lot of this movie is a little bit like You had a lot of money. Okay like this. That's something not if it was is a multi cam which I feel like these are shot with the budget of a multi cam like. There's no way that that set would have existed So jewel and Laurie go. Go out to dinner Jewel seems horrified by this environment. That she's in. It's a Sushi restaurant it's sort of like I don't know a Sushi. Do she restaurant in Colorado like you probably wouldn't like bank on it being like the most amazing experience however is the best you can get for a beloved beloved meal okay. It's a beloved Sushi meal. This is where you go and she's so racist assed right when she gets in there. It's very these people. Okay those people okay. So let's play thirty twenty to thirty to forty to wait. I I should also say that. Of course this is also Karaoke restaurant slash. Whenever it's like an Asian anything in a movie also operates under like seven different business titles titles like loosely always so Thirty twenty to thirty to forty two little advice in Colorado who knew right Meco two beers now that makes six six of you singing so far but which one of you is tonight. razzing install who is going to be our lucky number seven some this. This is your chance you said you wanted to be a rockstar right. It's number one on your list. Maybe this is as close as you're going to get now or never pick never anybody you want a shot at this genuine plastic VM. Writing Rights for the next life. Do we have a volunteer. Just can't there couldn't really know you right over here. We have no chance uh-huh the he's a new face in the crowd and your knees. Laurie Madison how about a little encouragement for Lory Madison number and in the stages all yours. Okay while while. We're and how would a big round of applause for our chef Bob Making Sushi. I all night. Because that's how he rolls ladies and gentlemen this stylings of Laurie Madison nine. Nice now sir. The hottest guy breaking if. It's only one time owner Dr knowing that I really the juice Newton Jews Nudie dwayne pool is gay gay just locked. A secret unlocked a secret clip on the Internet. I don't know like where Juice Newton. Okay that's his jam. Oh Wow wow. I feel like ashamed for not knowing this. Oh she's saying it for real. That's juice Newton as well. It's a different version. No no no I mean in the movie. Good Khawla okay so. Dan is incredibly seduced By this absolutely when he sees us he's like Oh my God where is she ben. All these years I won't point. She crawls across the table a little bit like a leopard. We're the sexy leopard moment. She winds up winning the talent contest. this is the hottest thing he has ever seen. He can't believe someone would sing like this to him. He's blown away is simple man. He is a simple man and they're sitting to appreciate about that until you can't appreciate anymore Lake like who wouldn't be like just like sort of thrilled with someone who thinks your low level best is like incredible. That's like a really sweet thing. We all want a husband that support of yeah with the novelty of that gets wears out. Then you're just like they're stupid So he's like. What are you doing back in town? And she's just having dinner with jewel jewel is in the booth and she's waving arm like Hey dan like she wants to to fuck. Yeah she like jewel in Mom Hornets so She thought he was of seeing the world. This whole time. He's been there done that. We never learn more about that. He points you're trophy and he's like a like the Blang This man cannot get off the subject of what he's been doing with his life. Fast enough warning sign. She asked him about the car lot. Needs like the old lot is really the old lot. It's still has the SHAG carpeting in it. You should come by so a girl comes up to them. She looks like my accent sister-in-law Lake. She looks like a very. I would like kind of not wasp wasp adjacent. She is like a just like a blonde girl with a fucking Michael. Kors bag bag in some curly hair and a pretty clean. Makeup look like pulled together in professional. Looks like she is had her bills on auto pay and peyser taxes for a while Probably from money but nothing crazy Just as sort of paint you a picture. So she's married at Vargas S.. Meredith is heard of Laurie before she says of course she's heard of her. She was dance. I crush news to us. We didn't even know basically the way that she wrote Mary Redan on that list. Dan could have never known he existed. Yeah definitely not. The case is someone that she had a relationship with could easily reached out to at any point up until until this moment. So let me go back into the monologue set. We pull back a bit and we now see that. She's in a grade school classroom when we hear the sound of the charm. Arm that we're going to hear in this clip it's like little chime moment That's her looking at her list. So it's about time to apologize. Ought to well. Let's thirty five twenty to thirty seven. Fifty five okay. So for five minutes I was Rockstar. I face my fears saying like nobody was listening and it was actually fun. But who cares about that when Dan is engaged to a woman who was being diapers. I presume you were dating. She's barely twenty a younger woman shocking seriously she's like way too for him to say then young too young and and you should see the way she looks at him. Oh my God like a piece of meat. This is wrong and you think that lie. Aides still living with mom. I'm the last person to judge these colors were for you. Do you remember Caracul. The first grade love of my life like Carol. I bring her if after all these years she and her family moved back East a few years ago right and you wrote her a letter or something. Yeah Yeah poured my heart out. told her she didn't write back. I never bothered her again and then right back she wrote back along mushy letter better about how much she loved you. And you're the only one lots of hearts and flowers. Frankly it was a little embarrassing and you know this because because I read it I was young and stupid. And you're right. I didn't like her. I thought you could do a lot better. Show you what you threw it out. No that would be very wrong. I just didn't deliver it. She wanted to marry me. She was just trying to get your attention. She always knew how to play you. And you didn't trust me with my own life if I didn't want you to get hurt. Look inmate sense of the time but I was wrong and I'm so sorry so so so sorry it it's three so's fourth can't person out typical one stupid letter. How does that rate a typical? It's not only the stupid letter. You've never trusted me to make my own decisions not to drive your car not even defeat your dumb goldfish when you're at summer camp. Look I'm just trying to apologize here. If there's anything I can do to make up for hiding your letter and to prove to you that I trust you just telling me I put myself in your hands. I'll do anything anything anyway. Okay so I agree. Why very fucked up that? She caught blocked her brother for over a decade. Okay Ah for someone who talks about will. She doesn't care about him at all like he's the family Weirdos she sure got in the way of the rest of his life she she. derailed his life bigtime. I Lake in and it'll turn out that maybe not so much blake. She definitely league carried on this secret in went about her life in a way. That makes me question. I mean I wrote on my nose. Lorries grows rose. She deserves jewel. Like that's how I felt like she like and when you leave this you're like she broke him as a human being in the moved off to New York lamb if we're supposed to believe that she was a once popular girl which will find out throughout this movie. Warm more that she was actually relatively popular popular What a bitch? Yeah now I have a couple of questions here gone. I've had a couple of realizations over the week that are well one realization and then also this movie and they are not connected but they are so Do you remember when Jessica Simpson wore for a very unflattering pair of denim jeans like looking back. They're not as unflattering as they could have been there were like quote unquote mom jeans and she looked looked quote unquote fat. And like this was it was two thousand eight and it was this moment where everyone was like the hot girl that we once knew in loved on newlyweds Ed's is now like a big Fatso. I think I do remember in and there was a backlash from it. And she went around the world and did like a series called Lake. AAC The truth is beauty where she went to like every different parts of the country or part of the world and figured out with beauty means to them now in those pictures. which if I were to show you them today which I will? She looks like a normal person like literally just like very average she was as a size eight which is also not particularly big and also we have to remember her just. It's not big at all but we have to remember Jessica. Simpson is a chesty girl. All right. Isn't she told to or no I think she's she sure. But like sometimes that can almost be worse right. Okay so many show you these these pictures now by other question to you. Just a p break was I said. Let's talk about casting because I noticing that they have put her here. You're in this so this is her and by the way. The Denim is atrocious. But like they're actually some pictures in this photo thing where she's very much reaching our average American standard of beauty. Like you know she's got like fucking while in. That picture is a non on existing Aspen fucking killing it. She had fine. She just is wearing denim. If anything. This looks like a result of over shopping to me. Were someone's like we just have to were you in this so we have to figure out a way to make the Jean's work. The belt was a mistake. The belt was ascend this woman was not nor has she ever been in fact now by any means in America only completely persecuted or for us. Now we look at this movie where this whole characters like bit is is about how. She's borderline obese. Apparently Yeah and how Meredith is so skinny. And she's not in like. I think that I don't know what they did in the casting of this movie. But it's actually almost scary to think that this is the on new. They settled upon he was also supposedly. You like hippy. Or big I think Kate winslet also suffered a huge curve ball with that and yet Hanoch worships not a heavier woman really at all. Yeah but but she's not a typical ingenue. This girl is like fucking flawlessly beautiful. Put her in a covergirl Ad Lake. She has total covergirl model phase rate of where the fuck does her body come in so I think they might have done some dressing here. He's if you notice she wears a lot of Like very like empire waste talks which were also of the style back then where you'd have a tighter fitting bodice and then just like a flow e top might imply then the layering with her as well Blake. I really have to ask myself. I know truly that the two thousand body standard like body image standards things was very fucked up. Yes because for when you look at that picture of what looks to be a very healthy Jessica Simpson a Jessica Simpson. That will be celebrated in our time for being like a very beautiful woman man. That was her falling-off back then right and so granted the I I don't know I think like one is an indication of how talks in the early. Two thousands were with weight. Sure unlike that was very much like it was a pleasure and pain that America took like seeing someone they couldn't Ecole Ritchie or a Lindsay Lohan on the beach like looking skeletal rate but also just sort of the other extreme that we've gone to body standards standards now where it's like. We got high value fat now quote unquote. I'm doing quotes are now. So it's like you WanNa fat ass in you want and you want big big boobs or whatever else you want nice size however we if we go back into early two thousand standards which we he probably will based on the curve of time or how the fuck is one's human bodies supposed to come back from that not it's not not unlike it almost makes me feel hopeful that will come to a happy medium somewhere and that unfortunately it might be the Kardashians have helped get us there. Yeah well is there Dave set of very American standard of beauty. Yeah and there's no going back from what they've done to their bodies. I don't think they've all I mean that's it I mean it's not the elephant in the room like we all know it but no one really says their bodies are all surgically modified to another degree. Yeah totally we'll begin. Do Because Jessica Simpson. What she was working with in? That picture is closer or to a car dash embody then the the girl in this movie that they're calling fat. WHO's probably a size six layered? Yeah I I think I mean I'd like to that that I wouldn't swing back to the crazy thousands standards. I think that they're like I. Don't I think there is room for. I mean I'd like to think that there isn't any room for a backswing of that. His body positively move is so oh like hard that if someone were to show up looking quote unquote heroin chic. Like to like dude. A modeling stopping. Yeah maybe like the fashion designers will like the people will not know. The people won't at all but yeah because like I mean looking at the generations that are coming up now. I don't think that they have it in their hearts to like be like the two thousand. I tweeted about this yesterday literally in my instagram. Instagram explore page came across this lake. I don't know I think they're like teen influencers. I've never seen them. But one girls like literally a size zero Eero Double Zero Rail. Thin blasts repressed knee is pray for Sammy is upsetting away. So she's like very tiny and she has a little bit of like a pooch like just like that's where her body is and people people were like is she like the caption was is so in so pregnant and people were like it's her womb. Like let her be. It's that's where her womb is and and like I was like that is so that like first of all and I end like two guys in my comments. Were like no like that's like natural fat knows No-no no-no on a man that's where a womb wouldn't be. You know what I mean. Yeah like is that that girl's womb popping through the body Congress. No but it's a nice margin of error. You just gave right right leg by the way why are wearing body cons with fucks up with that okay day so this will seen as like really messed up. We find out now that the Laurie is willing to do is jump out of a plane with her brother and the juxtaposition opposition of this man being a financial loser and also running a skydiving company in Colorado. And also being someone who's a fucking pussy is so wild to me 'cause because like he has he all of these things at once I feel like they should have cast will and then rewritten a little bit to him I think so. Yeah because he can't be a loser financially running a skydiving company one of the most beautiful like states in the world and a complete bitch boy. Is He a loser financially. Did they say that or is he on about will being a flop up throughout the moment we hear of him until you kind of get that. He's a loser but maybe just maybe he is. Wealthy interest lives with his mom or maybe just one of those people that like start businesses and they fail but and this is the one that we end up knowing will as see that would would be interesting because then it implies a parental issue. It's like you've raised two kids. That can't finish it. They're too afraid I would've loved to see remnants of wills I mean. They had the budget. They could have cut the gym scene and shown that will had like a bunch of projects in the garage. Yeah So she tries to put the out as she jumps out of the plane but wills like relax and then right before they jump out of the plane goes Oh and after she didn't here for me. Carol called me and we broke up. Anyway and Laurie's fury. She's like you knew the whole time. And he throws him out of the plane. I literally like if I was Lorieux Ryobi so humbled by the experience of forgiveness for my brother. After I held a secret that could have changed his life above his head for twelve years. I mean if she's twenty nine. I assume she left home at eighteen. This could have been a fourteen year secret depending on when this came in so you basically her business is a little bit of a flop because from what I know of skydiving having you have two very intentionally land somewhere and were Laurie and her brother. Land is Dan's used car salesman. Lot Right Fun. Yeah for the story also just like so dangerous and he goes what the hell and she goes. Well you did say to drop in. If I was ever in the Area I love that lorries guy like her scudder humored arrest on she's very quote unquote. Quick I love it when someone writes a Quick Care Journal movie but they're also lake. It's just it's a movie of this pace so it's like medium quick. I said it in we as a user a user. He has a viewer supposed to be like. Okay I guess that's she's sharp witted. So the Laura Talk in the park. She asked about his engagement in years. Like while a lobster the next logical step why not so they stopping to get ice cream. He's like Oh don't forget the nuts and for a moment we're supposed to be like oh she is is he talking about meredith nuts his not. WHO's nuts is he talking about but no he just remembers from twenty years ago? That Lori doesn't like nuts and so that means they're supposed to together forever. They talk about skydiving. She was an unexpected complication. She's trying to check off your list. Seven things to do before she's thirty. Dan asked what's next on or listen. She says she won't He says he won't give up until she tells them so. We go on a talking head and she says she's embarrassed who hasn't gone on skinny dipping besides her so she's never been comfortable with her body. There was so much of it in her mom reminded her of of it all the time. But now it's time for her to get comfortable. She calls around to public pools in schedules time for her to go skinny dipping. So which. I'm pretty sure it is illegal. Definitely illegal but also she makes the time to call so yeah you know I mean yes it takes the sting off the spontaneity of it the whole act of skinny dipping. fug It yet scheduled IDA. Yeah this is the break the rules and you can't imagine calling like if you to call a pool right now to be like I would like to rent an hour. Where would you start to pick a pool? Yeah that might be if you were. Take your reading sudafed. They might look the other way. Oh there's a public pool in Glendale that would probably try. You would try the Glendale public pool. Totally they would. Have you arrested Glendale one of the safest cities in America. No adults way. We have a public ball. Well I think our people and we can rent it out. Well no I don't mean like right now I just mean like generally is it a populated pool. I haven't gone to it since I decided to go to it. 'cause I might sell my Disney frozen flipflops Sarah you guys by the way. I have a lot of if Disney's frozen football aloft ones all sizes dance. He's our car outside of the school where she skinny dipping saying he decides to let himself into C.. which is up to just as she's taking off her top? He calls to her house the water. So he's like in there. I don't know how Oh this one highschool crush should happen to find her but he's like how's the water in there. She's all embarrassed she decides the CC act of taking off her top and then she finally commits to him. Why she's there? She's there to go skinny dipping. Okay get over it Dan. And then in response this man fully strips nude on the side of the pool and gets in the balls on that guy really truly. I wish I honestly wish that I had known how big his deck was a kind of just wanted to. But I think it's medium I I this guy I'm not getting beady from in any capacity which is a real science by the no upset. Yeah no I definitely agree. He doesn't have VDI but he definitely has high high school energy. Yeah I think he's working with like a medium a medium sized Dick Dick actually probably rivals. Michael's perfectly Mr L. also does not have a bay deck. No you were not a hot teacher fucking a student with a big Dick. You're just not you don't think so you wouldn't know Nali outside of porn like I feel like if you're a teacher of the big decor look at a child and you're like oh peace lake. I don't care that you're seventeen minutes Canada peace lake. Yeah I could literally go get a fucking mature aspach. You're right okay Mr Oh could have gotten Naomi. AOL Campbell now. They're both naked now. We swim so he says he hasn't done this in years. Maybe he should get a list of his own and she asked them if they were dating in highschool if if not all of that was in her head and he's like yeah it was real and she's like you could have had any thin girl back then then and he's like I didn't WanNa thin girl I only wanted you would. What a what a romantic late? This is the worst conversation I've ever heard. Because it's it's like it's like a night. It's feeling trapped in nightmare conversation with a girl that you don't WanNa talk to at a party but in high a school. Yeah where it's like complement me but like also acknowledge that I- sucked but like if you do like you're gonNA fucking burn but also like I hate myself so you you probably can slur me in some way that I'm not even going to pick up on like it's very it's very fucked up. And so he's like I just wanted hugh girl and so lorries very surprised to learn that she was actually the one who dumped him back in highschool advantage. Damn thing I think. She has. C. T. E.. Like I don't think that this was her first experience with or I don't know see ts generous. I think she's a severe memory loss or something something is fragmented in her brain and maybe she just a good at compartmentalizing potentially yeah I mean yeah. I think that I would also remember if I had like a list of names names of people that I left buried in another town. My memory does overwrite itself every six to ten years. There's like a complete restart on the hard drive. Yeah but I would remember if one of my seven things was to forgive my brother to apologize apologize to my brother. I'd have a pretty clear idea on why it would come to my mind pretty quickly but she didn't she didn't see that entry in the on the listen like Oh what did what I need to tell. Will okay already know when she saw Mary Dan. Why didn't she remember? Oh I dumped him in high school. Oh that's just like one of the things where she reframed the narrative. After she left town she changed. What happened was that a revisionist history where she thought it was him? But it wasn't. That actually does sound like something. I would do. Highschool bullshit like you just. You don't remember it. The reality reality is not what high schoolers remember no. We're all being traumatized literally like high school. All is trauma. I look at like these like kids like when kids are having like public meltdowns or whatever just like yeah I get get it. Yeah totally like I get it not just in the sense that like I would do the same thing I get it in the way that I remember thinking everything meant everything among my life was like a period like it was not like it wasn't like Oh like there was no lip says like everything was it's GonNa the happened this way and we're all going to die and it happened that way and it's my fault or whatever. Yeah your phone.

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The best Panthers team to not win a Super Bowl

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The best Panthers team to not win a Super Bowl

"I think that's what you guys this. But while emails I mailed Seth Today. Who's you know? Version of And because he emailed us about our best teams one title thing and I was like if we don't have any teams in the sixty four team bracket that you made. What do I do and he's like? Oh you'll have to do anything. I think the Hornets are the only team that I have a single team. That was good enough to even to almost win. A CHAMPIONSHIP. Took talks low sounding. Podcast as always this is. Brian joined by Brad and John. John How are you doing this? Fine evening okay go fuck myself Brad. How're you doing? I'm doing great Brian. I'm sorry it's okay I got to say I just started it off with Elga. Fuck myself so that works out. Yes that's fine. I mean I heard you try to talk but I realize now you can hear me. It's fine it seems to fit with the whole theme of the way the world's going these days I have a comment though about The intro that we just had I realized I needed to make new music. Yeah because I mean queen while I was going to keep the cat scratch fever thing but like I think every player. That's in the little like audio montage except for Christian McCaffrey has gone makes remember. It's like cams in it Greg Olsen Senate. Thomas Davis is. Maybe I think Thomas Keith Senate Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah you're right. You're Aso that needs to be fixed. That can ever find the time to do in these in these like sack Thompson Christian McCaffrey and DJBA DJ more. I was GONNA say will greer but yeah same. Maybe after the draft will have some. I got some audio snippet of whoever like the panthers draft? Brian get the play by play of Kyle Allen turning a potential fourth and one into a twenty five yard loss that would go along with the vibe of our podcast after receiving fine like the commentary from that life. Yeah so speaking of Horrible Memories So for this episode of the PODCAST. We're going to talk about what was a really great time experiencing it living through it and then turns out to be kind of a horrible memory in the two thousand fifteen. Nfl season so for espy nation steam. Week a what was the theme of the spread. It was the best teams to ever win a championship. Yup and I only have two choices because we've been to the super bowl twice and I don't think very many people would say that the two thousand three team was better than the two thousand fifteen team. Yeah in two thousand eight never really got a chance to even get close because Jake degrom. Yeah she doesn't thirteen team all four. They were good but but they were ready to go to the super bowl known now on top of that the panthers in the playoffs they had that they put a bunch of points on the seahawks and the seahawks did come back. Which if it wasn't for fucking Ron Rivera. That would have been enough. And we wouldn't have had to be sitting there in the fourth quarter wondering if they were gonNA blow this lead. But then the panthers absolutely fucking steamrolled. The cardinals team that team. That was really good in that. In that year like the panthers went into their own stadium and they blew them out. It was like they. They put up like fifty on the cardinals right. Forty nine forty nine. Yeah like a team that had been consistently almost as good as Carolina throughout the season and thirteen three in the regular season. And Yeah They. They beat a lot of teams really really convincingly so for Carolina to all of a sudden play them. I know there are a lot of people who predicted the cardinals to beat the panthers. Just because it seemed like the panthers season they had a lot of fluky winds and Carolina just destroyed them so like yeah I I can't disagree that like the this was definitely the best squad to have never won a super bowl for the panthers. Because you're just everybody going into to the fifteen and one super bowl like you just expect Carolina and win like they. The broncos barely beat the Patriots meanwhile the Panthers had put up thirty plus forty plus they put up thirty on the seahawks. And Forty on the cardinals. You just expected them to blown out like it didn't seem like it was going to be a game at all. Shame gets are good. I would say I think that if the panthers played that version of the Broncos nine times out of ten they would have won if they played ten times. Yeah I remember when the panthers way the cardinals it was like the winner of that game is the Super Bowl champion because them beating the Broncos Kinda formality because the broncos were not nearly as they told me before but like they're playing with painting Scorza quarterback of the other options Brock osweiler. And it was like. There's the panthers in the cardinals like upsets us. So there's no way they can keep up with them but they did and the defense was good enough to win that game. I mean the final score was twenty four to ten. But the broncos scored a defensive touchdown and then they also scored a touchdown because they had the ball the eight yard line yeah. Mike Tolbert fumbled the ball for the first time in his career. He fumbled twice and Jonathan Stewart. Fumble he also got injured to what Jon Stewart. Getting hurt I think is what really sealed the deal. Yeah he was the iron man for that for that group like obviously Cam. Newton was definitely the Superman of of that squad no pun intended but stop Jonathan Stewart. Was the iron man of that squad. I think it was kind of happened. Was the Hornets are the Hornets are basketball my TV? Panthers were so it they did get a lot of lucky breaks. They were really really good. It's only the luck. Throw into fifteen in one but they did get a lot of breaks over the course of the season and it was like the regression to the mean so to speak all happened all at once in the last game of the season. Yeah and ultimate in two thousand sixteen season. Yeah all mistakes. That players like that were very characteristic of players before but hadn't shown up during the regular season came back lay said like the the lack of fumbles. The turnover battle switched. Because I remember the panthers were extremely lucky with turnovers they got an interception or fumble recovery in the first quarter of every game to help jump out to leads and then all of that guy flipped for the last game of the season so it was like it was like damn burst. The dam of a bad luck burst. Yeah everything that had gone. Well for the panthers just shit on us it just shit on. Us I remember I. I'm trying to get some structure here so I want to say Let's talk about just because I was about to get into it. Our our personal experiences watching that Super Bowl After that let's get into just some of our better memories from the season and then let's talk about are like favorite players from that season or most surprising. Or just somebody you want to mention. Sp- shout out if that sounds good yeah So I remember. I watched the play offs in my parents basement or the entire on rand. Yes very on brand the not not anymore but at the time yes and I was also writing the recaps at the time which which was Super Fun because the panthers were really good so writing. The recaps was awesome I watched the play offs with at my parents. House usually in the basement and the seahawks game was stressful. But at the end the beginning I loved it because it was the Carolina beating the Shit Seattle and they almost came back then. I had a bunch of friends over for the cardinals game because now all of a sudden people are like Oh Shit Carolina might actually be good and they were like what is happening. What like who is this team. Because none of them were even knew a whole lot about the panthers. They just knew they were a good team that year. So they watched the panthers steamroll the cardinals like just and I was just sitting there like surprised I was like Holy Shit because I was fully expecting Carolina's hit the bed. Net game was the cardinals like they did it to us in two thousand eight. I haven't recovered from that still to this day and that the cardinals arguably at like the better team even though the panthers had a better record yeah they were still like like if you look at the two teams on paper. The cardinals were a better team. So then we watch the Super Bowl in the same group of friends came over. We were playing pool. We're having fun. And then it just went bad that Stewart touchdown I just remember being sad the entire time like everybody was like coming over like. Oh the pants will be fine. And I'm just sitting there like I don't know man like it. Just it was specifically after the Jericho. Khatri non catch where I was like. Fuck here we go. Classic Panthers Feeling of like well. This is my life now as a fan especially because that that team never gave us reason to believe that they come back because they were like I said earlier. They're playing from ahead like every single game that season. Yeah right they were. I wasn't teams out. Yeah Yeah so. There's no like it wasn't like the cardiac cats from two thousand three where it's like. Oh we're never out of it. These these guys have have spunk. It was just like wait. We're losing what does this? How does this work this happened? Yeah it was really the worst experience ever to be honest. Be Around my friends as their Shit Watson a dame enjoying enjoying the game and I'm just sitting there like my fucking God I have to write a recap about one of the greatest. Nfl SEASONS IN NFL history. Where the panthers didn't make honestly there's only like maybe maybe one or two teams who had a worse turn out as far as the super bowl goes based on their record like going from the regular season. I mean there was the Patriots Are you talking about like? Are you talking about like the how much how poorly they performed a relative to their regular season success? That's exactly what I'm saying. Yeah the probably the the Broncos team that got not nine later by the seahawks a couple of years before okay. Yeah like the other record was but I know they got beat like forty eight. That kind of takes the cake there but yeah Jayme over after the first drive when the on the first play of the game wasn't the first play of the game with the Center. Snap A head but yeah. I mean but you ever fifteen and one team to get manhandled on the Super Bowl is pretty unprecedented. Yeah and it's it's weird. How all that shit happened to. Because you know Wade Phillips knew how to scheme against our offense and stop it but I genuinely believe that. If Denver didn't pull off that come from behind win against the Patriots the panthers would have beaten the Patriots in the Super Bowl. They would have beaten them soundly at that. I believe I yeah. I don't think we're talking about the the best team to never win the Super Bowl if New England wins the AFC championship game. That year came elite. Three thousand three team or the two thousand thirteen team if the Patriots had played US instead of the Broncos and that's what's frustrating to me but the I knew the game was over when Khatri called it but was ruled incomplete. Like I knew that was it. You know I just had a feeling I was like. Yeah this that's it. I don't remember my like moment. I tend to like shift perspective really fast when things go poorly in sports that. I'm watching so I remember being sad but it wasn't like it was just like oh I know how this is going to go so he has hope for the best but expect the worst so in the game ended as well. Well that was fun and I know this this is GonNa make a lot of people mad. That are listening to it. But I really don't care I was mad quote unquote for about ten minutes. I got over it. I mean that's how I am with sports. I said Shit really. This is a sport. It's entertainment and caring so much where you're still bitter and still angry about it. Five years later is not healthy. If you are still mad about it and still bitter about it please get because it's not healthy to hold onto things like that anymore. I've learned that in my almost forty years of life now. Ten years ago fifteen years ago I would still be on the fuck Denver train but it's just not worth being mad. It's they get paid millions of dollars to entertain me. You know that's it. It's not life or death. It's very unhealthy to stress about things. Like it's it's commonly used to stress about things you can't control. You cannot control the performance of your favorite sports team meter when me being mad does not change one thing about that game. It doesn't bring it doesn't bring it back and have it. It doesn't it doesn't do anything except make me bitter and a better. I think the one thing that bothers me the most coming off that game was I sat down and wrote the recap even though I was sad at the time was just that. There was an overwhelming amount of optimism about the panthers because like they lost that game but they still had a really good core of people they had cam. Newton had Greg Olson to have keithly had Jonathan Stewart. They didn't have Kelvin. Benjamin that season they still made it to super bowl which we didn't know how bad government was You know there were so many talented players on that roster where it was like. We expected them to come back. After that season we were like okay. This could be better and then it just fucking blew up that following season when Josh Norman left You Know Kelvin. Benjamin came back. He wasn't nearly the player. Was We lost Michael To An injury and it all just like that show. It became a flash in the PAN rather than what should have been like a defining season to say. This is going to be a really good team for a while like it. Just that's the part that I hate the most about that. Super Bowl is that it looks like Carolina was GonNa be a contender and like potentially a dynasty and it just turned out to be one. Hit wonder apparently like yeah exactly but it happens. That is sports. That is sports. That is Sports Cam Newton. I want to also touch on this because a lot of people did not like the fact that Cam Newton was named NFL MVP in two thousand. Fifteen yeah you can kindly take that opinion and shove it. He was to ninety six four ninety five which is fifty nine point. Eight completion percentage if he would have completed one more pass he would have been an elite quarterback. It's a shame that he could not do that. He threw for thirty eight hundred yards. Thirty five touchdowns ten interceptions. He had ten rushing touchdowns as well as six hundred rushing yards so he was responsible for almost forty five hundred yards forty five touchdowns and between ten and fifteen turnovers because he had five fumbles. I don't know if all of those are considered lost. Fumbles orifice just fumbles. So and he was doing this with Philly Brown. Ted Gannon Jericho Khatri as his wide receivers and Britain Burson was his fourth wide receiver. Greg Olsen was his number one target with eleven hundred yards and seven touchdowns. How in the hell can you justify giving the MVP to literally anyone else cam? Newton won fifteen games with Ted ginn Jericho Khatri and Philly Brown as his wide receiving Grand Bremerton and Brenton Bersin I mean they scored five hundred points. That was number one in the league. They averaged thirty one point three points per game. They allow three hundred and eight. They gave up nineteen point three points per game. They had the sixth best scoring defense in the league. They I don't remember the exact number and I didn't find it and I didn't feel like looking too deep into it but I'm sure they had the number one turnover margin in the league because that's why they went fifteen and one. We've already touched on it. There turnover margin was insanity. I believe you're correct. They they they had a streak of turnovers and I think it was. What ten or eleven games or they had a turnover in every game and I mean it was nuts. Leukemia had talked back turnovers. They pay this turnover in every single game that season. Okay okay. I knew it was something crazy. Like no one. There's one game they didn't. They didn't four servings the seahawks and but like it does not look like a turnover column after that it was like four two two five three one four. That's how many turnovers a game. They're forcing. Yeah it was insane and leuke. Klay had back to back. Pick sixes in the playoffs. Yup Against Seattle and against Arizona had pick six in each game that that to get into the like what I enjoyed the most from the two thousand fifteen season that season really cemented. Luke keithly as not just a really good linebacker. It's cemented him. As one of the best players I've ever seen play like he was insane in two thousand fifteen on. Never Forget. I was watching the Dallas cowboys game. I was GonNa say this season where we beat the shit out of Tony. Romo on Thanksgiving. Yeah we we not only. That was the first time. Not the first of two different situations where a quarterback came back from injury and the panthers put him back on the injury report. But I remember watching the game and Luke. Kuechley made that pick six against the against Tony Romo which by the way. Kirk Coleman also had a pick six on the first drive the cowboys that Game Kirk Bowman. It's snacks under him. On the head. As he scored a touchdown he's straight up. Disrespected Tony Romo on the way into the end zone but I remember watching him run also holy fuck you look defensive back running right now like and then on the next drive the next throw by Tony Romo. He picked it off again like I was like Holy. Shit like that game specifically like. I've never seen a defensive player who who was like that. Who had that kind of impact throughout a season like? I think that there's probably a few in the conversation as far as like J. J. Watt and obviously players that. I didn't personally get to watch growing up. But that was the season that cemented luke equally as one of the best linebackers of all time because he just was a complete game. Changer which something you don't see from linebackers nowadays. Yeah here's a couple of Trivia questions without looking how many overtime wins did the panthers have One I was GONNA say to wrecked. They beat they. Because Ted Ted ginn dropped a touchdown at the end of the game. I forgot about that. Oh my that's that's used in the difference between completion percentage and accuracy because he put it right in his hands again alligator armed. How many Games did the panthers win? By less than a touchdown touchdown I mean the general definition of touchdown as in seven points. Not Going to seven eight nine nine nine. Both of you were wrong. Brian. You're closer. They won five games by less than a touchdown. Geez how many games. And how many games did they win by one possession by one possession? I do mean by eight points fewer nine and seven so a couple of games Bhai nine points to. That's probably why you thought nine. So I'll I'll go into what I was GONNA say. As my memory of the season was the two things. The constant like lack of credit panthers got as the seasons went on. Yeah people yeah. Yeah Big Joe Yell. At worst fourteen year old team ever worse. Thirteen not as the season went on to the point where they were underdogs teno and they were underdogs against three and seven cowboys on things. We out of them with Tony. Romo coming off an injury to whole like we're the home team. Was that either way the pay pretending. Oh they just beat Washington forty four to sixteen the week before in Dallas had lost every game or one in seven. Since Tony Romo got hurt too I don't know but The other thing which is probably why my my guess is so high because it felt like it had been every single week was the pants would get out onto the huge leads and then just like pedaling away because was like all right. It's halfway through the second quarter and by three touchdowns let's start pounding the rockaways the clock. Yes and that's part of the reason. Why like Ham could have had much better staffs if he was allowed to like? Throw the ball in the second half. Yeah yeah probably thrown for five thousand yards. If they didn't run the ball on the second hand Iran I was talking to my brother the other day and he said he was watching the giants game from that season. And that's very as infamous for like the Cam Newton head shaped the head like the nod ways. All right I got this. Wasn't that offered the Josh Norman. Oj Yeah but the panthers thirty five to seven with five and a half minutes left in the third quarter and the giants tied. The game with a minute forty-six left in the fourth quarter at thirty five. Thirty five yeah and that that that was the season to me the the panthers were blowing them out for most of the game and then that should be enough we can call it quits here and then cameras. Save them at the end and that happened a couple of times against Indianapolis in the overtime game on the Seattle in the playoffs It happened one other time too and I can't remember which game it was now but there was one other game that we had to do that. I'm pulling up the game by game right now. Palm means I think it was the saints because we beat them by three points. The panthers are on the colts. Twenty three to six with ten minutes left in the game and they were trailing overtime at one point they gave him twenty points in the fourth quarter and overtime to the to the To The saints the Pants were up. Twenty seven to sixteen in the third quarter. Which isn't terrible. But then they gave up fifteen straight points to go to fall behind. Took one of the greatest interceptions of all time from Josh Norman. To seal that win that was the first game the are up. Twenty seven to seven on the packers at halftime. That was the PAT. Yeah and How does that game in game because I feel like that game? They won't eight were. They won. Miss Davis made a major intersection. Right at the goal line was that it was at that point. I remember that play at and if it was yeah I believe house. The other game I couldn't think of it was the packers game. That season took years off my life. So Thomas Davis intercepted Aaron Rodgers in the end zone with at the two minute warning and so the panthers came out nice game by running for one yard with John. Stewart running for one yard with by Tolbert running for five yards of John Stewart. And then putting to give the packers of all back which is only six seconds left but still that was just like perfectly emblematic of the strategy for that season. Damn hate era. I the two thousand fifteen taught me because of that Kinda Shit that I can't let myself get too involved like get too invested because in the end it doesn't matter in Iran Iran. Hopefully rules not going to rule but anyway go ahead now. I'm I think that's the end of it. And then there's the seahawks game like we talked about but I think as good as the team was in that was also kind of planted the seed like in my brain like Ron avair. Maybe isn't the guy that need is. The team needs to lead them to consistent success. Because he's having the best season his team has ever had had and they are barely beating teams after they get up to like three score leads on a consistent basis like there's no way it's that hard. Oh when you're thirty thirty one to nothing to us at halftime and you can barely barely hold onto win. Does that happen? Do you guys remember when Ron Rivera made the fucking comment about? We want to twist the knife when we're up up on teams and he just never fucking did that. That was the epitome of it. Was the two thousand fifteen season when he was like. We want to twist the knife. We WanNA WE WANNA blow these teams out. Any never fucking did that. He always took him out of like he took them back like two years. Whenever they have like three touchdown lead in hindsight. It's so frustrating. And even the Games where they did go on to blow out teams like wire-to-wire. It wasn't because they kept their foot on the gas so it was just because they're usually playing bad teams because I think they might have had the weakest schedule in the League that year but they would just get in they would just get turnovers and the other team would just not be competent to put together drops. It wasn't like depends still coming out there. Like what's in quarterbacks and Colin pathways in stuff matching their opponents. Yeah it might not have been the weakest schedule but it was in the lower It was like bottom five in the league and that was where the whole. This is the worst undefeated team ever. Shit came from everybody who said well. Your strength of schedule is like thirtieth. Thirty two You should be winning all these games and all that other I will always for fifteen for a couple of things number one. Of course we go fifteen in one in the regular season. And of course the Goddamn Falcons of the team that beat US. Because why would it be any other team number two? I thoroughly enjoyed the first half against the seahawks in the playoffs. I've never enjoyed football more than I did that. Half 'cause fuck fuck them. The first play from scrimmage is a fifty eight yard run by Jonathan Stewart. Where just about any other running back in the league scores because they don't run a gas after they've run fifty yards but to be fair? Jonathan Stewart had been out for three weeks because he was hurt which he always was hurt. But you know we score the touchdown on that opening drive and then the second play the seahawks run the they they force a pick. Six and the route is on. And then obviously we've already said it turned into a damn nail biter. Thomas Davis had to recover. Fuck it onside kick. Who AFTER BEING UP THIRTY ONE TO NOTHING? It had absolutely nonsensical And then I really enjoyed the NFC championship game although I felt sorry for Carson Palmer. I don't think I've ever felt sorry for another team quarterback as much as I have felt for Carson Palmer that they could do nothing that day like they were they were out of it. By halftime. There was nothing they could do to stop that onslaught. Now that defense had no answer and their offense just continued to turn the ball over. It was not fun like they even had there was a punt return. Patrick Peterson tried to return a punt. And then he fumbled it clearly. He was clearly trying to do too much on the return. Yeah I mean that they were desperate at that point and it just everything they did. It just blew up their face thousand eight season for the two thousand eight season when we run the ball down their throat on the opening drive and then John Fox decides hey. Let's just let jake throw it around the old backyard now. Like what the Fuck Karmic justice? Brad that's what it was so I I've been doing some research pro. Football reference has a strength of schedule like metric thing and it's like zero is average in the higher the higher. The number is the hardest. The lower numbers. The easier schedule is the panthers Schedule rating in two thousand fifteen was minus three point eight. There's been nobody already goes to like negative for The I have not the The next easiest found Cincinnati is negative minus two point seven. Now there's a minus three in that same season. And it was falcons their minus three point four so we just the NFC south because he NFC's alphabet and they played year after the twenty fourteen where we went seven eight one and won the division so we had six games against a shit division. Yeah we played. Afc South who who were won by the tax into a nine and seven. And who else do we play the? Nfc East you're ten. Were were bad. Yeah the cowboys are four. And twelve giants or six and ten beagles are Saturnine in Washington. Wanted Division at nine seven so we play bad divisions but yeah basically the easiest schedule in in recent history that season. So they're very good. You can only play. Who's on your schedule? Pru like pro. Football reference else is like a metric that combines like your point your point differential with your strength of schedule in the panthers as he's mostly because they're sees their schedule so easy. Yeah but that's also that's also skewed by Ron Rivera. Taking forty point leads in making the middle ten point wins so instead of making him sixty point leads. Yeah so is that there is that so to end off the episode. I just want to take some time to highlight the players that we enjoyed the most. And the guy that actually. I'm GonNa let you guys go that way. If you want you can just change it so brat. Neither one of us are going to say. Britain Burson Brian. That's not who I was GONNA say. Why don't you? I really enjoy Greg. Olsen that year. He had eleven hundred yards receiving had seven touchdowns seventy seven catches. That doesn't even really reflect. How good he was that. No it doesn't and that's that's the amazing. You know he but he was. He was a beast that year. How could you not Cam Newton? That's my answer who's VP. Because only the best player that lets the easy choice. Yeah I'm GonNa say these choice I'm GonNa do it. We'll take it go ahead take it bigger. We would all pick somebody. That's not cam because that's the obvious I want to remember. Can because he's not here anymore. Neither is greg now. I don so fucked. Now we're back to where we started that Tell us why you love Brenton Bersin so much. So it's not Brenton Bersin though I will say I am still right to this day in two thousand fourteen. I said he was going to make the roster and he did and he stayed so fuck you Brenton Bersin Fan sir. Not Not fans haters so I really appreciate it Philly Brown in two Thousand Fifteen. Because he was a guy who shouldn't have been there but he got the opportunity because of Kelvin. Benjamin obviously being hurt and they just had nobody else I almost picked Jericho Khatri. Because he was just he was great too. But the thing that people are GonNa Forget about the two thousand fifteen season. Because the panthers didn't win the Super Bowl is philly. Brown took a key to lead to town in that Super Bowl. He he got concussed. I think on his fourth reception to lead grabbing the facemask in-intentionally no. It was after that when he felt like he caught a downfield pass. That was like it was a long pass and he hit that he hit the turf and he was out for the rest of the game but he was taking a keep to lead to school and Matt. Game White Illman caught four passes but every time he beat a keep to leave like senselessly and I was the whole time. I was like Philly Brown. Should be the MVP. If we somehow win this game he was so good and he was even better in the game before that Billy Brown had I know. Most of it was on a long touchdown but he had like two hundred hold on. We find it where I'm guessing. He had a heart in yards and four hundred thirteen yards against the against the cardinals too so like he showed up in the playoffs. So it sucks because Ilie Brown didn't do anything after leaving Carolina but he was really good for them that year so he was my on some hero of the two thousand fifteen panthers. Yeah I remember. He was beaten to keep police a bad that keep to leave got mad and news just like. I'M GONNA intentionally swim around by his face mask incidents other five anyway. Independently won't count against. Yeah that was. Absolute Bush. League hated notable scumbag. A keep to lead Yup. The breaker of chains seriously keep delayed. Yeah for real fucking those people fucking And also fuck the field by the way. Fuck the field Mr Brewer. Because there are several gifts of Michael. Oher literally on skates getting pushed back by demarcus ware. So fuck that field. Because that's part of the reason why the panthers didn't win I don't know if I want to talk about this anymore guest. It's time to someday. Yeah Yeah So. That was our breakdown of the best team in Carolina History to not win the championship and it was pleasure. It was pleasurable at times. But it sucked in the end and we're all going to have to live with it so and didn't get worse from the Super Bowl onward like we we recovered and we've we've been to the playoffs every year ever since and everything's Great Yup. They totally didn't totally sixteen didn't happen. Two thousand eighteen didn't happen. Two Thousand Nineteen didn't happen. That was really the start. The start of the long downhill road for the Ron Rivera era. Yup and Ron has gone now. They didn't capitalize on what was a pristine window to super bowl sell. Yeah things are great but hey get the future ahead so maybe things would be better. Who knows but anyway from all of us here at the keep sounding podcast. Thank you for listening. This is our breakdown of the best team to never would've super bowl and hopefully we don't have to talk about that anytime soon again. This Brian joined by Brad John. And you guys next Mandak when we need many content. Yeah and we're told to do this by munition. That's not what happened transparency. See you later bye.

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Hour 3 - Former Bulls players not happy with MJ? Marty can't speak, TV listings, things opening up in SD and Jim's joke of the day

The Darren Smith Show

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Hour 3 - Former Bulls players not happy with MJ? Marty can't speak, TV listings, things opening up in SD and Jim's joke of the day

"Is that the one that brings us back soon. Am Radio Rain once more. Now here's Darren. Adding on extra thirteen sixty. Hour, number three, extra thirteen, Sixty FM, one or three three in the I heart radio APP was asked on twitter. These Michaud agree about the NFL. Being eliminated from the Mission Valley conversation, but wind up pro soccer team to take advantage of a brand new right-sized stadium ownership aside would think is a soccer hotbed. Would support it. All I'm saying is I don't know that there's any more reason today to think that a professional soccer team well. Okay, let me amend that. I think there's more reason to think that a professional soccer team will be attendant in that building than an NFL team. I think by about a million, but I don't know that I think that that either one of them. Are Likely in the near future. Maybe maybe nineteen o four wants to go and play there although I think that they. Probably prefer playing in a smaller venue. I don't know that a thirty five thousand listen I think it's very debatable here and Gosh. I'm going to regret saying this. I think it's debatable that thirty five thousand. Maybe I should just go to the horace grant sound. But I think thirty five thousands debatable for San Diego State. If it were up to me, I would tell you that that would be a little bit larger than I. Would Have Plan for okay, that's me. We'll say that first season. I'm sure it'll be a hot ticket. It's definitely too big. For sport that place more than six times. Right I mean that's sort of what we always lose. Sight of when it comes to trying to compare these sports is that you play a lot more therefore? You're not gonNA have the same level of demand for sporting events, and if you're playing twenty times, you know that's just I, Don I. I would say that that's probably too big. Even on the MLS level on the US level the indications that I've gotten, and not that they're gonNA. They don't need me to speak for them, but spending a little bit of time around St loyal was. They would much prefer to go and find. A Nice block somewhere where they can build a fourteen thousand fifteen thousand person soccer specific stadium. That would be better for what it is that they want now. That's easier said than done. Look Long. It took us to even get to this point. Right and we're still not across the finish law week so. Although I'm told that they're still. Tomorrow's not totally dead, but it's more likely. It's going to be a week from tomorrow. That's adds maybe. You'd have to provide me more. You know when you're campaigning and you're saying well. Yeah, we would love to bring mls here. Well, you know I. Remember a conversation with Jd wicker. You were in the room because he came, and he talked to us back at the old place and we asked. What is your plan? If in fact, professional soccer and major league soccer. Soccer is something that you're interested. Any said well. Maybe a team would relocate okay pretty much a non starter for me, I don't know that that's something that I would want to sit around and wait for. We just went through a relocation and say what you want. MLS is not the NFL certainly not after fifty six years, the League's only twenty five years old. But still I I don't know who's GonNa Pony up two hundred million bucks for an expansion franchise. I don't know where that money climate. No I just I I now. Maybe the League is GonNa need it. Maybe they'll offer reduced rates since they nobody to games this year. Maybe they'll say all right. Here's a special on expansion clubs. You can get one hundred and twenty-five. Maybe somebody steps up in that situation, but you're also now and though the league changes its roles. They're still pointing a baseball stadium. They're playing up in Seattle so. They sort of. Make it up as they go along. But I'm just saying. My original point wasn't again caught into the weeds about some of this. They don't need to do that. Say Yeah you know. It's GONNA! Be Great about it. We got a Division One football program here and we don't need to do big twelve talk and we don't need to. Do NFL talk and we don't need to do. Professional soccer talk. We don't do any of that I. Mean it's. It's San Diego State it's. It's the football team that we have I. Just don't think that anyone voted for it. Did it because I thought you know what if we build this? And maybe one day we can get an NFL team. I don't think that was a motivation for people who voted for it. Let's see maybe Barbara is going to run for mayor on that. Oh, I would advise against it then again. She made it further than I would've predicted. Okay, so she knows what she's doing. I don't. Run for mayor on allowing. Permitting with restrictions drinking on the beach. Now that because people are hesitant to silt, even with restaurants reopening boy a rough week, even. Forty eight minutes I cannot I cannot. I can't end fast enough, but WANNA. Texas thought the gym. The Gym can read it. Right now. Six, nine hundred, and the board is not closed and back and forth five times since March never been given a hard time or ask. Why was he hashtag global entry? Well listen, there is the difference between the essential non non-essential Etcetera. I suppose if I show up there with a bunch of suitcases. There's a chance that they could say no. That's all and I know for sure one of the thing that I always use. Is that cross-border express to try to go right into the Tijuana. Terminal and that we are updated on constantly, and we are told that is not open. In terms of how it would be now I've crossed the border hopped in a taxi and taking it to the airport so I know how to do it. But As long as there's a chance that they could say, who are you? You're not essential. Go home then it's still arrest and. Rest that we take when we're talking about hundreds of dollars, probably thousands of dollars trying to trick, so that's all Tom same. Seven six year number. What is the instrumental songs that Jim is playing during the segment Jim? I have no idea. Cars by fear factory. all right eight hundred number. Dare good grief. Can we get any sports back so we can stop at the silly ups? Texts shot fired. Across the bow of the UPS truck. Right, let me play a little bit of sound. Because now the Chicago Bulls. And even some of the rivals. For the Bulls. are starting to make the rounds. Let's go with Horace Grant. WHO IN NO UNCERTAIN TERMS? Michael Jordan said so matter of factly while discussing. Leaks from the Bulls Locker Room. That resulted in a book called the Jordan rules. Jordan flatly. And as plain as the nose on my face, it was horse. Horse, cramp. And there appears to have been. This may be one revelation from this, because a lot of it is hey, remember when Jordan dead and remember when Jordan dead and remember when Jordan did. But maybe this was the revelation the some that there was some bad feelings between Michael Jordan and Horace Grant who was there for the first three championships who was drafted by Jerry Krause went on the play for the Orlando. Magic who ended up beating Michael. Jordan remember in one, thousand, nine, hundred five, although that wasn't Jordan's fault, it was because he was in baseball shape, not basketball shape, but here's horace grant on a Chicago radio station his two cents on what he saw during the last dance. Downright, outright completely locked, lied Lilac, and as I stated if Mj had a grudge with me, let's. Let's talk about it or we can sell. The is another way. It's only a bridge man. I'm telling the only Gordon and I think he proved that doing this so-called documentary when. If you don't say something. You can say something about him. He's GonNa. Cut You off He's GonNa. Try to restore your character. My point is that he said I was in it, but yet, and still after thirty thirty five years he brings up his rookie year going into warm teammates room in seeing coke and weed and women. My point is why the hell that he wanted to bring that up. What what's that got to do with anything I mean if you want to call it by the SNITCH. snitch read their. Or grant now, let's appreciate. Everything that came from that sound bite. Number One. Horace grant unless I misunderstood it. Challenge Michael Jordan will fight. Yes, is that what you heard? Yes? Horse. On Chicago Radio in Chicago. Challenge Michael Jordan Ah fight, so we can settle this like men if you would like. What do you think about that? Do you need the texture thoughts to Jim Jim. What do you think about that? As a woman probably. How Horace Grant said men. We should handle that. What do you think well I mean? Did he snitch if he did. I. Mean why. Why is he in so mad I don't get it name names. Did he on the cocaine? No. Yeah Jordan was asked about it, and he laughed it off. You'd never named Jennifer snitched who was doing drugs or cocaine in? A hotel. You hold on a second now. Jim. Hold on, hold on. You're saying he. He was asked about it as if he were on a court stand. Will he was not under oath year I know. He ran the documentary. He didn't have to include that. If Jordan wanted something out, Jordan could have had edited out right. Right, yes. But I think that because it was rumoured that the Chicago Bulls were like the traveling cocaine circus. He was gonna be asked about it, and he answered the question. I, don't think there's anything in the documentary or Jordan Pool of good from that given that the whole team was in the room with the blow with the weed and the women, but not Michael Remember because Michael then left and went back to his room by himself. He changed the Culture Darren when you got there. The also see to be very amused by the whole traveling cocaine circus thing as if it were the first time that he had ever heard that wasn't that. One of the big belly laughs that we got out of Jordan. So yes, now this is the second team mate who has complained about this Craig Hodges. It was actually Annette. Said I wasn't in that room I. don't even know what this guy is talking about so that's at least two Craig Hodges used to be a great three point shooter. Probably not a name that many people remember. Don't ask me why I remember it. He wanted three point shooting contest one years great, and then he couldn't get a job. Gee, I wonder why. And then horace grant went on to say. So called documentary. so-called documents European so all suggesting to you JIM is you're not wrong when you say that he was asked about this, but Jordan was in complete editorial control of what it was that we all saw and he didn't have to include that. That's true, but at the same time he didn't say any names. So, he's not no, he just said. The whole team is in the room. I mean I'm sure not everybody was in the room. Well I don't know. Okay all right just a little food for thought so that's that's Ho- grant. Friends Com Ho-. Even though that's what Jordan. Called Scotty Burrell Ho called him a Ho on television. Like ten times. It was quite amusing. I don't know where this came from. Carl Malone has got his own issues. Did you see this club, no of Karl Malone now realize. It doesn't? It would take a little while if somebody said okay. Like he did in the in the piece waist up shot okay? I will show Mardi the picture, and then she can text Jim. Thoughts on the way Mardi thoughts on Barbara Breathe. We can read that in this in a second here. Do we want it. Marty's thoughts. I'm Barbara Bree. Yeah sure, do you? Do you want it? hold on a second. Let me let me just set this up I. Would you know that this was Karl Malone? Yes. Well, he's got a big grey beard and he's wearing a hat and he's wearing a flannel shirt because like he's. And this guy? He would I think he'd be a logger. If. He wasn't a best. Yeah? I I don't know what this is all about I. Think it's an East sixty special. But of course Karl Malone, who was beaten not once but twice. Finals and remember Michael Jordan. Like Sean mcvay, remembering a play from the third quarter of weeks seven. You asked Michael Jordan, what his motivation was for the nineteen ninety-seven finals. What did he tell you? Karl Malone won the MVP I. I'm not saying I shouldn't have won it. I'm not saying called in. Deserve it. I'm just saying. I never forgave anybody who took any part whatsoever in Carl? Malone winning the MVP and I hope that they all died miserable deaths, and I really wanted to punish him alone and in Carmel Loans family, because he played really really well, and won the MVP, but I'm not saying he didn't deserve it. I'm just saying that it was fuel for me in the NBA Finals to go ahead and win my fifth, and then to beat him again, and when my six championship or chrome. That's motivation CROM. Amazing, it's amazing Carl. Malone has thoughts. So when I say named Michael. Jordan comes to modern. Michael, Jordan. Jordan. What else how did you say? Thank, you go ahead. Talking about the game six hundred and you Tony's. Why. Washed, why do I have to? But I'll tell you this. Man Can I accept responsibility for not winning and we were there. We just happened to be playing the Chicago Bulls, which wouldn't just Michael. Jordan by the way and I have the. Utmost respect Michael. But. I never thought I was playing Michael Jordan. I would finish ICAGO balls. But let's not. You know? Everybody say. This person was a bad man and all that. What yes I'll give them respect. But I got to set up a man. I was a bad sound bit, too. So. That's a look at it, and and that's who I am. May My. Older years. I can call it that bluntly, but I'm just calling. See it. Okay. I would like at ten part Docu series on. Karl Malone immediately, that was more interesting than anything. Tom Brady. His ever said is higher life pretty much perfect. In February twenty nineteen by the way. I'm. I'm. I'm sorry I'm all man. Said Carl Malone and you know what. Yeah he's right. He's about as he is A. He's just. He really is a dirty player, too. But that's six nine built like that Oh my goodness. And that's. Man There's a lot of layers to Carl Malone I will just leave it at that I mean. There's been some things that he's been accused of that are just. But yes, if there were any former NBA player, who you would think would dismember body. It would probably be crumble. And know how to do it and just. Be Like in the backyard and Fargo. SORTA got that kind of personality. Chipper a little bit Bill Cartwright didn't say this. We don't have Audio Bill Cartwright thought made a really really interesting point since Jordan. Thinks they would've won again ninety eight, ninety nine. Thinking Kay board, they came back one year if they came back one more all of them. Did you just yawn on the air? I heard. Bill Cartwright Point. was you know if we really wanted to win a seventh? Ninety three ninety four would've been the year because without Michael Jordan. The Bulls won fifty four games. And should have beaten the Knicks in the postseason to the Eastern Conference finals. So we know, Michael was tired. And that he was dealing with a lot. There's no doubt about it. And he lost. His Dad was a really really big deal. He wanted to go on the the baseball thing. But Bill Cartwright point was well if we really wanted to win the seven, that probably would have been the best opportunity. I'd never really heard anybody say at that way, but he's spot on that team in his absence one fifty four times now. Is he still the greatest of all time? He's the greatest of all time. I can say that. Without hesitation on one hundred percent convinced of it. But. Some of this has gone a little too far. Your opinion change. For the worse of him after the documentary because it seems to have for me from talking to you know I've pretty much always hated this guy well. I know you're next. They were featured more than any team except Utah is seems in the in the in the documentary, but. Your opinion of him seems to have changed law. No. I mean I. Just I think. It's you know the slurping is a little much. That's all I'm saying okay all right. I got it and I'm glad like I said I'm glad now that this is. This has gotten to the point I really know Malone wasn't in response to the documentary. But I'm glad we've gotten to the point now. Where we've had a couple of teammates at least three take offence. Say you know. Wait a second here. Wait a second here. At least three that we know of, and we're all on the edges of our seats, waiting for Scott at and to chime in because he didn't come out of this looking great, either he didn't. I mean there was no reason to put the thing there with pippen and coo coach. There was no reason to talk about. The migraines were Jordan flat out I guess he was heard. Debilitating Migraines. Jordan's whatever. Called them selfish in the beginning of it because he was holding out. You know there a lot there. If you're pitching like Geez man, what am I do all I help you win six championships. Not exactly a ragamuffin over here. We'll be back. With. Loose cannons coming up at three o'clock today it appears the NBA is about to make a big announcement that they will close out their season in a single location. Is that a good idea. We're going to tell you an extra. Thirteen. Sixty Fox sports, SAN, Diego and FM one zero three three. Looking forward to that conversation. What would be the downside of the players are into it. I can't think of a single thing that. Would suggest that that's not a good idea, but. We look forward to listen to them loose cannons. They'd come up here in about twenty seven minutes. Help feed families in need during the coronavirus pandemic. The Jacobson. Cushman Santa Food, Bank and our North County Food Bank chapter form the largest hunger relief organization in San Diego, county, the food. Bank distributes food to those in need. A two hundred distribution sites across the county monetary donations are going to be used to purchase food items to be given to those in need. Donate visit food, drive online, dot org slash Santa foodbank fighting hunger feeding. Hope here on Xtra thirteen sixty Martin. Would you like to read the top text that just came in I? Would not you're the only person on the show who can read it? Oh, really almost we should make. Should we make Jim Rita? Could Save. Would it be funny if Jim read it, or would it not be funny or would it be sophomoric? Can Look at it. You haven't read it yet. Now. Now, let's see. Oh. No No. No. WHY WOULD I? The only female on the show so what? Now all right I agree it would be funny if Jim Right Right. Now. I'd recommend Jim. Not read that. Well we got word last night in San, Diego County. That you can dine in restaurants in store. Shopping was approved. So this is what's called phase two that we in San. Diego County, now or in stage to phase two. It's the same exact thing, but there are different rules reopening of restaurants and shops on till businesses fill out these safe reopening plan form. You have to posted publicly etcetera. This isn't this is the step that you need to take. You don't need to have inspectors. Come in there with white gloves and look all around and. Tell you that you're approved. Give you the thumbs up or thumbs down on whether you can have diners end, but Mardi, you were saying. Are you okay to talk to? You need to text the gym shot. You already saw people, I haven't left the house, not dating. They weren't dining. They were not dining darren they were. Restaurant workers so shout out to Peter at Amplified Ale, and I saw some people over at world famous, and they were just like in that little kind of it's kind of an outdoor area, but with a cover. Outdoor area and they were like moving tables around the world. Famous packs it in on the weekends in. There's always a way always, but it looks like a mirrors the hustle and bustle. There are people actually working inside, so it looks like they. They are all preparing to open tables. Putting signs up. I'd imagine moving like the universal like. Dispensers for like Napkins and utensils so hustle bustle today. Not sure by the time we get back on the air since we're heading into our weekend here a day early. I. Don't know by the time we get to the air on Tuesday. I don't know that I will or won't have visited now. I plan to take a walk around the neighborhood today. Okay just looks like you with opening up I'll pay. Dirtiest! She was busy when I when I went out there. It's pretty busy. Still those stupid cars driving up. been a traffic had not closed down, but balked about that last night on Kogo. Is Opening up for takeout only they've been closed the entire time rockies rockies. They've been closed the entire time, but they're gonNA open up now for to go order which is great. So. Piece by piece places. Are Coming Back Jer. The one thing the governor did say by Gosh five six weeks ago. At least for some of the restaurant tours I know not everybody got this. Not Everybody heard this, but. You know he did say I like. You should start thinking about what you're. GonNa look in the age of physical distancing, you should think about what you're is gonNA. Look like now these plans by themselves. which is what we were talking about last night on Kogo. And what we've talked about a little bit here. They're not gonNA work you know. They're just not gonNA work for certain restaurants, because part of the allure of some of these restaurants is you know you go in? It's tight. It's intimate, and then if you have to six foot thing you're talking about potentially twenty five percent capacity in some of these places, and that's just not going to fly so. So, it's not a percentage, it's not like you can have half, or you can have seventy five. It's going to depend on how much space and in smaller places they're the ones that are going to have the toughest time, which is why there's a push here and this neighborhood and other neighborhood swell to an the phrasing is really interesting, because it's not about closing streets, people see say closing. They're they're very I love this I love the art of linguistics that they're talking about opening the streets to the restaurant. Saying because you can take that. As why are we closing street? We are opening streets to see what we did. Our opening streets for restaurants that they can have a fighting chance and. Super Important I hope it works. It will be a temporary thing in a Lotta situations, but we'll see. Do you have any plans, do you? Do you think you find yourself? In restaurant dining at some point, I'm not saying I'm not running out to be the very first, but I'm also not ruling it out. Running out I think for me. It'd be a lot of walking around biking around and seeing what the setup looks like. It's like Oh, they move one table, but no I. I'm hoping that there'll be a couple of places that are going to open up to have an outdoor area. I will tell you this right now. I am much more inclined to go to place for I can sit outside, and in order something to eat them then go inside where I might be separated by diner by say ten feet, but no, I'm showing a picture in the in the UT online here on the beach. House Grill Belmont Park Oh. Yes, right there. They got the outdoor spots cables. Et cetera like that's that's a winner. Now I'm sure rent is sky high in that place, but still living closed. That idea. To your point, there are certain places where it's like perfect tailor made for for outdoor service. Now, I'm GONNA I will definitely check it out. Yeah, let's face it. Would be. I think the next week or so I probably will dine in. Somewhere I do. Not It out, not ruling out. No, you know I mean I. I think again the protocol the setup that's going to matter but that question. GonNa be for all businesses. Amplify ill house. It's it's the majority of the seating outdoors on a roof deck. It's perfect. I hear this this ad that we play on the station and on the other iheart stations for the the bubble APP. If you want to learn a new language. And I keep thinking to myself I wonder when we look back on our time inside. Like. What are we doing? How are we going to evaluate our time spent? Was It time well-spent Alison? It's easy for me to say I've got a I've. Got, a cat I mean I. don't have a bunch of kids running around. But Will we look back on our time and say you know what we made? The most out of that or we go? I! Don't lot more sat there my shorts. Seventeen steps you Dick Nineteen steps. Hey, took nineteen study. He did by a dog stroke. I mean he became a pet on. I know it'd be wrong. With Jim's life has been over the last nine weeks. If we didn't have a no, I don't know if I'd gone outside top anything else. He's my gateway to get outside. Like excuse good point. More knows what would happen today with you if it wasn't for that pop. If it wasn't for buddy the dog. Having to get outside. Yeah! I, just I I don't know that everybody will put that kind of thought into it, but I hear that and I got mad. Man I wish I had done that nine weeks ago. I wish we had started doing some language classes around the house. But. You can't have it all in life. I guess. Maybe I'm the only person that will waste my life thinking about. What we did or didn't do for. Ten weeks. Gun because not everybody has the option, right? Some people have to go into home schooling. Some people need to pick up the slack professional because maybe. You didn't have as much money. But yeah I thought about. Now that we're in face to or stage. To what do you prefer phaser stage? Phase Phase I like face to also final segment for the TV listings gyms. Joe Coming up next on extra third. Hey come on cost and richards tomorrow morning. It is a feeling it. Friday Nick Hardwick is GONNA. Join us at eight o'clock also an idea by some NFL teams that is absolutely genius. When you connect it with no fans in the stands, we'll talk about it. We're going to wait six an exit. Thirteen, sixty Foxworth, San Diego and FM one zero three. For a while there. We had a segment called missed with Jim Russell. And Jim would inform us on some stories, usually some goofy stories and things that we didn't get to because we were busy with the important stuff here. Right I mean this is. This is a show about important. Yeah, totally so. Jim would delve into the world of the silliness and he would say oh, here's some things that you guys might have missed. This is a story that would have qualified. South Korea's FC soul has been fined a record one hundred million Korean won about eighty thousand bucks for quote, damaging the prestige and integrity of the league quote. After using sex dolls, instead of mannequins to fill empty seats during a K-LEAGUE match Korean league match. The club placed around twenty dollars. Some of its were trust in the team's colors, while others held placards supporting the side in the stands. This past Sunday to make up for the absence, fans do the corona virus restrictions however, and this is a key detail. Viewers watching on television quickly pointed out that the dolls look more like sex dolls than mannequins, and some of them, holding placards bearing the name. Of An adult toy manufacturer really. Which which one? Do. You tell I I would. Have called this in. What. Our viewers that quickly point out that these are dolls. Used for those who are lonely. They viewers here watching it to twenty five in the morning. On ESPN, two probably Jeff Passan. The only guys that know what kind of dolls are are. Two twenty five am in the morning. What you're saying is if you're up to twenty-five watching Korean baseball. You probably know they'll be uniquely qualified to know what a sex dogs like. I would say yes. We take. Your core audience right there. It's perfect. You have many things in common. You stay up until thirty watching Korean baseball, you must own a sex doll. Probably? Club is disciplined. This staff involved in the mishap declined to appeal the punishment, and said they quote humbly accept the ruling. Whatever So tight about. Our first pandemic everybody. All right on television tonight says Mardi cows well. The girl with the Dragon Tattoo six thousand nine pm on S Z and discredited journalist Michael, Blomqvist and a mysterious computer hacker Lisbeth sounder work together to solve the mystery of the forty year old murder of forty year, old murderer, and a cover, the dark secrets of a wealthy family. Do you know which one this is now? This is either as Swedish. Is that the we just want her? Is it the one that? We have with 007 in it I. Believe this one. Yeah, the second one. Mara Kmart you've seen this I've seen parts of it only finished washing it. What nobody seemed parts of movies quite like Mardi. Never seen this I've seen parts of it. Well. Finish the, Matrix? What I've watched it like ten times and never finished it. But. Have you ever started? Telling you just. Pick it up along the way midway through. The blindside seven PM on free form. Have you ever seen this? Yes, Sandra Bullock and. Gosh. I forgot the guide. Michael oher that character, correct, liberal, one radio member Michael or yeah yeah. Karate Kid, seven thirty PM on para. Original one with Pacheco, not the remake. Ralph who Gio Macho what. Celebrity Escape Room Eight PM ON NBC Ben. Stiller brings the phenomenon of escape rooms to television in spectacular style celebrity escape rooms Jack Black services a host and all knowing game master, putting celebrities to the test as they work together under intense pressure I will tell you. One earliest friends had a birthday. And her birthday. Planned it. For an Escape Room We went to the escape before we went to dinner or whatever or maybe it was after. It doesn't really matter what the order is, and I remember thinking this lame. Like this is really lame this. This is the downside of being in a relationship. I thoroughly enjoyed it. I thought it was really a lot of. Have, you been. I've been to multiple. Yeah! Where do you go? There's one downtown it's it's. It's okay, but the best one I've ever been to is in Vegas. It was really yeah, they were they did it. After the saw movies and you had to go through like seven different escape rooms to get out, and they were all like high high high end like movie style escape rooms. It was it was. It was extremely fun, yeah. Did you escape. We didn't get through one room, so we ended up. Quote Unquote dying. Yeah, so the answer's now. Well. There was multiple rooms, so we got through. I think seven of the eight. How long how long are you there for normally? They put you on the clock and say you got an hour to figure this out. Oh boy, yeah, different man! Yeah, the one I went was in Hokey. On them, it was I was like I said I was totally surprised. I was like Gosh Almighty. You gotTA. Be Kidding me naked, afraid uncensored eight PM on discovery. We're the millers. Eight PM, on TNT A low level pot dealer is forced to retrieve a big drug shipment from Mexico in order to pay off a debt to his supplier to accomplish his mission. He gets stripper and two teams to pose as his family during the trip. Have you seen this? This is a very funny movie now. I think it's GonNa. Work on TNT. WHO's the main character who's who well for Jennifer Aniston? Oh Jesus stripper. Yeah. There's a scene in there where she. Strips? is she convincing stripper because she. Does the track. Okay, all right very Katie. All right really. Oh More convincing than. Yeah. To tell the truth, ten PM ABC Sports Icons Dion Sanders and Shannon Sharpe joined comedian, Joel, McHale and Gillian Jacobs to make up the celebrity panel. The panels presented. Whatever I Jimmy got a joke. Yes I do. You Ready. We're ready baby. What a CRAB SMOKE! Seaweed. What of gyms finder jokes. well-done done okay. Just read a New York Post story about how cannabis. That's all that is being seen as an effective treatment, and perhaps preventative of it really was a convincing read. CONVINCING ENOUGH Harmful drugs. Exactly Hey. All right. Your four days they'll be a show tomorrow starting at twelve noon. No idea who's a part of it being John. John Schaffer I John. Schaefer pulled double duty. He's doing cost of Richardson doing this. Think so I'm not sure. I'll find out well. There's nobody at the station who who I would sooner picked the John Shaffer to do this show, so we appreciate that having enjoyable and a safe weekend everybody with a little bit of extra time off, and we will be back at it. You masks show number forty seven from the wine cave. We're pretty sure. Next Tuesday here on xtra thirteen sixty.

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Hour 3: The Club

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Hour 3: The Club

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And in fact, let's do this in reverse order Mitchell. Do you have a go-to creed song that you would sing in karaoke? I do not. I do not. I think if I did a song my go doing the passage drops of Jupiter, and that's it's not that good. So I wouldn't I would not. I'm not supposed to carry. Okay. Okay. Very good. So you're you're with us here on behalf on behalf of gone rogue snacks. And we've had a number of food questions around here that have been a little bit unanswerable. So who's going first we're going to allow Mitchell Trubisky to be our arbiter here on food related items arguments that we've had here recently, which bag of Doritos would you like to go with red OBE Lou? Go with the rabbit classics. Oh, wow. I'm sorry. Roy seem very hurt by this necessarily. Oh, we gotta go way back with this one is a hotdog a sandwich. No, it's a hot dog. These are very definitive answers that he's giving us. And this is him coming strong with his opinions. What else you got Billy? All right. Mitch. Can I call you Mitch? Okay. Let me ask you. Let's say your hand each one of your fingers was a dispenser of a condiment which five condiments. Would you have your hand? Dispense. On mustered buffalo ranch. And and rather than agree with you. Whereas barbecue mayo. Now Mitch we had a little debate on this is butter a condiment because if you gotta use butter because the way we played the game was you could only have these five condiments for the rest of your life. So you have to a big decision and is butter on them. You want to change any of your answers. Mitch you seem to be badgered about this. So would you like to have your answers? Are you going with those five I would have? Yeah. I want to change them. How would you gotta add salt and Byron there, you got a so then you gotta talk to Mitch what are you taking out out? I would take out ranch and Honey mustard. Okay. So is that he's very quick decisions. He makes very quick decisions. He's very decisive here. What else do we have for him in order to clean up some of our food, controversies wise, Mitchell hall of fame ski, thank you, Stu gods? I'm ask I want to know what your top three chips. Are. We know you went read to read over blue. But if you're just going the whole chip category. What are your top three chips? There's a good good place for gone rogue snack. I think. Yeah. I I would have to go with gone rogue high-protein ships. I've got the best ship out the right now because it's seventeen grams of protein per day, and they got four great flavors chicken baking, chicken teriyaki, buffalo style and barbecue out there right now. And it's it's crunchy like a chip except it's healthy. And it's got a lot of protein in it. So it's kinda like they it's smoked lean chicken. That's crunchy like a chip, but it's protein-rich like jerky. It's like the best snack out there right now. If you're not he meant I don't know what you're doing. You can get it on Amazon right now gone real high protein chip. So that should be your favorite one right now. I mean, there's only one answer. Meets your next obviously on condiments and food as we've learned am I allowed to put mustard on a cheese steak. No, no, you're not. What about mayo? No, you're not can you catch up on a steak? No, there's Magna. Thank you are not allowed to put anything I stake. How do you like steaks? Do you like it? Well, done medium, rare radium medium. All right. You guys can't come up with questions fast enough. You have met your match. This guy is going to answer every one of your questions, and you guys are going to run out of can Arleen day. Mitch do you ever put chips on a Sammy? Yes. That's a good one. Can I put ketchup on a hotdog? Yeah. What's your favorite type of fries, we potato fries? Waffle fries. Sweet potato fries for sure. Mustard Honey mustard, if you if you could only have one hot dog for the rest of your life or you going ballpark hot dog or a New York like on a strategy water. Hot dog. I'm going ballpark. Hot dog. You got to when you put catch up on a hamburger did do it in the middle like a big squirt or you kind of like a swirly thing around it. So it's evenly distributed. Even maybe sure you did Fisher. What else are you pulling your hot dogs? He put relish sauerkraut. I'm just the catch guy. Oh, my God, pancakes, waffles, I like both. I'm better, they can pancakes is this. The most opinionated interview you've ever done. It's probably up there for sure I'm I'm a big fan of food though. I'm a big foodie felt like we gotta go into. I mean, you're good at the eagle bites or pizza rolls. Pete's favourite wing sauce. Buffalo questions. Wow. Are the bears going to protect the pocket this year? Oh. More than you guys. Did who ran out? We're going to run out would you ever eat a square pizza? Mitch. Pizza. Yeah. For sure. Well, he he can tell us about deep dish pizza. He could tell us like, where's the place in Chicago to get pizza? I like Reno's it's out in the suburb. It's close to my house. And it's not one of the big guys. I don't think but really good pizza. They got really good deep dish. Antenna crust. I go for both Mitch this is safe place near Chicago. You can say deep dish overrated. Yeah. It is. It is. I'm not gonna like brightly if he's wrong, you can get some bad deep dish can be overrated. That's why. Then crosses definitely okay? You are now less popular, Chris, you're less popular right now in Chicago than Cody parkey like that. I can't believe. I cannot. You just did that do you believe onions should be on? Do you believe onion should be on a pizza? Sure. Be for sure park. You should have made that kick. What are you doing? Gone road questions on that to answer. It was just a statement on ROY next where you go. If you want support what Mitchell Trubisky, which do you prefer, by the way, is it Mitch or Mitchell? I don't have a preference. Do you still have the nineteen Ninety-seven Toyota Camry? I do my little. How long did you drive it after you got the big contract? About six more months. And then I got a new car like halfway through the year thing or before the season started. So I have a pretty good bit. And then my because he's like go get a new car. So I could have your car. Okay. Mitch when you go to botchy restaurant. Are you a yum yum, saucer ginger sauce? Gosh. Guy manhole famous. Do you get hurt or offended if the chef at a Benny hana's is not is an American. No never as long as the good. Okay. No. But because there's some Asian preferences here they want they wanted to feel a little more around. You get upset if you go to the hibachi restaurant, and he chef doesn't do the volcano. You kind of volcanoes must do you prefer you prefer the volcano or the the onion shoot you trade? That you chain comes after all Kano, doesn't it. Break the good ones. Do both you like when he tosses the shrimp into his hat, and he catches it. Or she. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. You defeat you guys. Again, you guys you're actually run out of question. I would like to shift quickly to a drink question. I maintain that the fountain Coca Cola is the greatest drink in the history of drinks. Great, no water. Without question is the best. The cold. It's called pop to drink it. No Mitch, you're waters overrated food, so good. So right. What do you mean? Wanders overrated. We couldn't live without it back. I could live Coca Cola. Okay. Very good. Mitch. Thank you for allowing us to waste your time gone road snacks. If you wanna tell people anything else before you get outta here. Gone. Rogue snacks. What do you got? That would be most productive interview done. You got waste my time. Got a lot of good food questions out there. But all the people need to know, they need to go. Get some gone rogue protein ships very healthy. Awesome snack and the see everybody and how they like the New Mexico take it out and get on on wanna say with us there. He said he didn't want to do that. Get the it wasn't a creed on. What did you say? Was your karaoke song? We don't have it. Okay. That's good to got you should have communicated with someone. Thank you. Mitch. Thank you. Stugatz here for one eight hundred flowers after a childhood full of unsuccessful attempts to pull the wool over. Mom's is do you really think he won't be able to tell the difference between a last-minute mother's day gift and something truly thoughtful this mother's day. Don't settle for anything less than the biggest and brightest bouquets from one eight hundred flowers dot com right now. One eight hundred flowers has great deals for mom like twenty four sorta roses for just twenty four dollars. That's only a dollar Perot's with a bright and beautiful mix of orange yellow and pink blooms. 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Now guys, how do you wanna handle this because the mystery crate is being produced? By the shipping container and it's going to be a weekly mystery. And it is now out the second one. The first one was the most popular thing that we've done throughout the podcast network. And so each week it's going to be a bit of a surprise. What can I tell the audience about what's in this mystery crate, and why it is they should be listening to this mystery crepe because we've said that the mystery crate is the most likely place for you to find the things that you want in lebatardshow friends, the podcast network that are most like this show the show that we do daily. I would say that this is a special episode for this time of the year. Not helpful area mysterious. Only head tell people what they're listening to. It's gotta be a surprise every time. That's what you're telling me may the may the fourth be with you. Okay. That's what it's called mystery. Great, Dan, you get it. But he did there douse. A hint, Dan. It's what it's called is. The may the fourth be with you is what the episode is timing because you get the may fourth thing may the fourth like may the force be with you. Good clue all. We're telling you and then. I wish we'd broken news with Mitchell Trubisky with this in the background. I pictured people all over. Here's PIN being like, what are they doing? They've got the pairs quarterback. We ask him about something. So we could use the sound and give it to her stake. That's a hoping we broke news with him with his playing underneath. But all we were asking about was what kind of fingers he would have condiments coming out. He laughed Cody Porky. I mean, it was a statement at a question that could be newsworthy. He also said the deep dish pizzas overrated legitimate news in Chicago. That's I do believe that that should be somebody one of you Chicago newspapers newsman, a legendary newsman somebody needs to take that interview with Mitchell Trubisky and bury him with it bury him with it. So that we can get the credit for ruining the young quarterback. He's got an answer for everything man that guy is sharp and quick. Well, he tell you why he answered questions that quickly because I've seen him interviewed before and he falls into the same robo quarterback cliches stuff that bores them to tears doing the interviews and bores us to tears listening to them. But we didn't ask him about football. So you actually got opinion if we'd ask him anything about football. He wouldn't have given us single opinion. It would it's like an immunity. They have they I wouldn't have been able to defeat him and get the news that Chicago's deep. Dish pizzas. Overrated by asking him. How football question? Who's the most opinionated quarterbacks? Aaron rodgers. I guess it's era, right? The most opinionated quarter. Baker Mayfield is is showing personality. Philip rivers seems to have personality. Why did you do that to make conversationally? Well, I just was wondering because his quarterbacks are there robo. I mean, a robo quarterbacks they're impossible to break their impossible to crack when you ask them about football. I'm just wondering if there's a guy we ever spoken to about football. Who wasn't like that? That's all the quarterbacks tough man, regardless to God's his head on his computer here. We're going have Michael Lewis. He's going to join us in about ten minutes. Great author Michael Lewis. He did the blindside. He did liar's poker. He takes complicated stuff. And he makes it very easy to digest, Malcolm. Gladwin calls him. A genius, Malcolm. Glad while looks at the stuff that Michael Lewis writes and says I wish I could do that. But before we. We get to that or these people's through God's has a waterbed and Sixers take that he wants to make sure to give everybody. So before the serious, Michael Lewis interview, let's give you a minute of stugatz while you know, we were talking about waterbeds earlier and how big they were in the eighties nineties, and I made the statement that the waterbed is making a comeback. I thought I had read it somewhere. And we thought you were lying. We thought you were just making it up. And then you said the thing you said, which is look it up. And then you looked it up idea. I want to it's official dot com. And the headline reads it's official the waterbed is making a comeback while no other details. Just it's official. The only thing you found on the internet to support your point that the waterbed is making a comeback on the entirety of the internet. This is the recent article December thirty first two thousand eighteen it's official. The waterbed is making a coverage was saying earlier in the show that the waterbed cannot be something that is still existing. They're hard to get out. Why somebody writing that article on New Year's Eve, that's? That's. Officials. So what is dot com? They said night that person together. But for this moment. One day go pay off. Peruse the entirety of the internet and find a single thing that supports his point like Louis next donlevatar, we've got a horse in the game. Dan. In the race force would be in the race, whatever. Stugatz. Got a horse in the rate. Listen, I can mix and match cliches. I'm the cliche master. I can do whatever I want with Mike leashes, cliches, and your they're not yours there. Everybody's and you're not the cliche master. If you can't get them. Right. That doesn't make you the cliche master that just makes you bad. At speaking. These live at our show with a Stu gods on ESPN radio. He has a new podcast against the rules. You should subscribe, new episodes available weekly on itunes, Michael first of all thank you for being on with us. I have been a big fan of yours since the first book of yours. I picked up which was moneyball and sort of change the way that I looked at things you do a great deal of that was that your big break sort of teaching baseball about baseball. I would say my big break was my first book was liar's poker? Which was about my time working on Wall Street. I think that. That sort of set up the career, I think we're moneyball fits into my career as it gave me license after that to write about anything. I wanted to because it was such a departure from the sort of things I had written about, and there was mile skepticism that I should be writing about sports. And when it worked until I screw up anyway allowed to kind of go do what I wanna do twenty years. Correct me if I'm wrong, basically writing about this thread that fascinated you which is how we value things in one way or another right? Like, you're you seem to be you seem to gravitate at every turn whether it's the blindside anything else where can I see market inefficiencies? Where can I see things others don't? And then let me play with that. That's true books of mine in magazine articles mind that don't really fit into that story. I wrote a little book about my high school baseball coach I wrote a little book about fatherhood, the undoing project book about the two is rarely psychologists. I guess that does fit into it in a way I mean because they are explaining why we miss value things. So yes, I mean, it is one of my great interests that I think that it's an interesting sort of near the center of our world because we live in a market driven world, and how markets value things is very interesting subject. So the blindside you are writing you again gravitating toward a market inefficiencies value how valued things you didn't go in thinking to write the story of Michael oher? Right. It's the privacy. How good a story. There wasn't a place. I wasn't looking for a book shown to it. Who is the dad in the blindside Tim McGraw played him in the movie who the white father who adopts the black child was my school classmate from age five to eighteen and I just happened. I hadn't seen him since high school, and I happened to be Memphis, and I visited him and in his living room is this, you know, three hundred pounds six foot four inch fifteen year old illiterate black child, he's just taking in and I started I didn't think gonna write a book about my childhood friend. It was bizarre. It just kind of mushroomed and then. But I had at the same time in talking to the San Francisco forty Niners front office about what had happened to the distribution of money on the football field and seen as weird thing that since free agency had been the birth of free agency, the left tackles pay had skyrocketed. And then it turns out this boy in my friends living room is, you know, projected as a future first round draft pick left tackle because he has all the attributes of a left tack at the age of seventeen. Then all of a sudden is a story about it. It's not just about football. It's about all the forces in the world that affects the value of this boy, and one of them is what fallen football strategy and another the fact he has a mother all of a sudden. So in terms of being surprised by a story that was the biggest surprise because you know, it really is it just it never occurred to me that I'd be writing about someone from my past that way thorough. You are caring. You're going to take great care writing about. From your past where you hurt by Michael or not liking the movie, he moved in stages on this subject the book, obviously preceded the movie by several years, and he seemed to like the book. Alright. So that was the important thing to me. And then with the movie, it was complicated because the people who made the movie got rich. I mean, they, you know, they made it for thirty million dollars, and they gross half a billion dollars and Mike Laurie didn't see nickel of that. And I think that partly informed his ASTA to the movie, but I think also informed is still in the movie was not the movie itself. But the reaction of some of the football players to the movie, I mean, they got teased about it. So it was a little hard to know how deeply off put he was by the movie of self as opposed to these other things have you set all that. I really like, Michael. And I really wanted him to be happy. And I just I was a little sad that it didn't take more pleasure in it. Because I think he could have. I've gotten a lot of pleasure from it. If he viewed it a different way. But the movie said all that the movie is in me, the not my book, it's other people doing this thing. So I didn't feel all that responsible for the movie. Glad while has said of you. I'm sure you've heard this, quote, I read Louis for the same reason, I watch Tiger Woods will never play like that. But it's good to be reminded every now, and again what genius looks like you might push all that. I don't know. But when Malcolm glad well modern day intellectual says that about you. And he is someone who was very good at taking complicated ideas, and making them understandable. You thought what when you heard that? I thought Malcolm has the ability to make people feel more love than they should. And I thought he was lavishing praise on me that I didn't completely deserve. But that was really nice of him. I think it's a better description of him than me. I think he actually does have an almost superpower in an ability to take ideas and make them interesting to people. I think what I'm doing a little bit more old-fashioned. I think I'm taking people making them interesting to people. Do you think he's better at that? Is what I just heard you say, it better taking ideas and making him swing on the page. Absolutely far, more of an intellectual than I am far more fun to watch play with just an idea. I do things he doesn't do. I mean, I do sustain a narrative and what he's not that interested in doing that's an old fashioned. And in some ways left. Interesting skill. We we've had Adam McKay on our show love his work love. How creative years? Oh, he's he's really a smart, dude. And then he decides he's going to direct the big short because he picked up your bookie told us at like nine one night and then seven o'clock in the morning still reading it and his wife's walking in and saying what are you doing? How how did you learn because the big short seemed like it was going to be really hard to make a movie about that? In fact, I can't imagine a movie about that until having seen it if it wouldn't have worked to me on the script. You're absolutely right. And. I didn't imagine either. And my reaction when the it was I bought the film rights refers purchase was you're insane. I don't know what you're gonna you're gonna do this. But when they said he was going to do it. I do for from Talladega nights. I thought that's exactly who has a chance because he is a capacity to make everything entertaining. And if you can entertain the audience, they'll follow you places, and that's his trick. Right. He's never boring the screens just exploding. And you want to kind of be with them and hear what he has to say. And you'll let him break all kinds of rules as he's trying to tell you things 'cause you basically trust him as a storyteller. So yes, I'm forever. Grateful to him for bringing that story to such an audience. When it comes to writing during my lifetime. You want to subscribe to his new podcast it's called against the rules. New episodes available weekly on I two. What is it that? Lord, you to having these conversations on podcast what is against the rules. It's a seven episode. It's narrative is essentially a book in the form of a bog gas about the referees in American life and would caught my interest in the first place was sports referees, and how they're mistakes are ever more scrutinized in ever more likely to generate huge amounts of outrage at the same time that they are being hired and trained and prepared and checked much more professionally they generally got to be more accurate than they ever were. And they're more loathed and more abuse than they ever were. And that's the first episode is about NBA refs. But then it just goes off into examine referees and other walks of American life judges regular. Letters so on so forth. Boom who make value judgments is basically job it is to enforce rules and in sure fair-play and make the world field fair. The general thrust of the story is wherever there's a human being who's trying to enforce fairness that human being is under attack. Interesting. What Lord you to it? Oh bunch of things. But probably the biggest inciting incident was watching the Trump in Bernie Sanders campaigns in two thousand sixteen and both of them were getting their energy from the argument that the world now rigged various systems are now rig and feelings of unfairness that they were tapping into got me thinking about this subject, generally, Michael always appreciate your curiosity. Thank you for lending some time to us. I do appreciate it. Yeah. Thanks for having me. Dan. Tar it's Friday. I'm gonna into the weekend. I wanna get my drink on. Stugatz. Got open up the club open. It. Eight oh. Now, but is the computer buffering there is. Libertas show with this to God's own ESPN radio. Steve Kerr's comparing Kevin Durant to Michael Jordan, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar is saying that Kevin Durant can surpass him as the NBA's all time leading score. Finally, Kevin Durant. Getting some of the things that he wanted when he went to Golden State, right as he's out the door to leave. Golden State is getting some of those validating things that he went there seeking before we go any further. I'd like to know where Stu gods is. I would like for you guys to help me with. Where is to gods? You pointed out something to me yesterday. Billy that I had noticed before we opened up the club here, which is Stu gods had to leave to prepare for highly questionable. And you said to me, I I laughed at this on the way home, you said to me, and I hadn't realized it Dan, don't you also have to do highly questionable. And of course, the answer to that is yes to God's lazy a thief. We don't believe he's preparing for highly questionable. We believe that he's eating lunch somewhere. A lunch did not pay for a lunch that he scammed off somebody it hurts my feelings. It's what will ultimately one day break. This radio shows friendship. Maybe not go ahead and open up the club. What is the computer buffering? What's your confidence level here? Billy feeling. What do you wanna do? You wanted to polls club. I have some polls outsource clipped, ROY. So I wouldn't watch it. All right. Go ahead. And do this. You do polls and he'll do clubs. Oh, so you wouldn't botch yard botched it Yari by the wrong button to turn up my mic. Well, it wouldn't be a great weekend. If you weren't sending us into it with and competent. So it's already before we've started. Yeah. Yeah. All right, good. So let's go ahead and do this. However, you want you got the last three minutes of the show to yourself Twitter. Polls at lebatardshow Rodney, by shave of dollarshaveclub delivers you the products. 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"I just wanted to see if there's one two three four he tweeted me seven times in a row in about a three hour span. Like a spiral next from? Yeah. Yeah. I guess they're all spread out. And I didn't say anything to any of these like is just like three hours ago one hour ago. One hour one hour one hour, forty minutes. Thirty seven minutes, sixteen minutes, and I didn't apply to any of it. He just kept tweeting at me. And then and then he'll go back and delete them later. For he gets drunk. You're his year his like guilty. Text pleasure. That's that's why screen shot at it. Because the last time when he was really when he was really funny drunk tweeting near whatever he deleted it like the next day, and I was real disappointed. Three. Just. That's cute. Will. Hello and welcome to the twenty nine teen inaugural kind of season. Three hod cast of heap sounding this is Brian joined by our regular contributor, John and a special guest in Billy Marshall, our resident draft guru and film specialists. Billy, how're you doing tonight? Unto pretty well. Thanks for having me on. Oh, yeah. You'll be on plenty don't worry. And I'm sure John Heinz not gonna bother to ask them. You'll be back. If you do good job the night, no pressure. Hopefully, there's no crazy initiation. I have to go through here. Oh, don't worry. There's a lot a lot of initiation here. So yeah, we haven't really been on for a bit took a little bit of a hiatus after the. Train wreck of the end of twenty eighteen season. When the Panthers lost several games in knock themselves out of the playoffs. That was that was fun all the fun thing to go through. But now we're here talking about free agency the NFL draft the twenty nineteen season where this is the time where everything's great because every team starts out zero zero every team could potentially draft the next hall of Famer. So here we are. And the big the big news. We do have hope this is the best time of the year because we always have hope. There is hope abound on this one. So the Panthers. Let's start this off with the biggest news the week. The Panthers re-signed Eric read to a three year deal totalling about twenty two million or so gonna end up being about seven seven point seven million a year, plus incentives. So yeah, the Panthers down there starting strong safety since Billy is our newest guests what tell us what you think about that sighting. It's I think on the surface a lot of people got little up in arms about the length of the deal went of the total value of it. But I I'm usually caution against that. Because you should the full structure of the contract comes out about twenty four to forty eight hours later looking now, it looks like it's essentially a one year like eight million eight nine million dollar deal, which seems like it's a pretty low risk. You know for the team at the same time if he proves himself soon be a reliable safety in the back end than he has more incentives to raise his game. Wow. A calculated measured. Take of Eric read. I haven't seen a lot of those this week. I mean. Yeah. I mean. I think there's a lot of misconceptions like going around right now. Like, I know it all like doing this guy credence. But there was someone like Fox Sports claiming that read was like an overpaying all this stuff. But like looking at it as even those metrics on pro football, focus of like terrible. You know, I think safety play in general the league last year was relatively like like, really good. I a lot of above average, safeties graded pretty highly end and read was about me above average average area. So which makes sense like he doesn't really play like a flashy position. Like, there's a. Get a lot of make a lot of game changing plays like interceptions or forced fumbles. You know, some of the other safeties league do but at the same time. I think he has proven to be pretty reliable guy after gonna be transitioning into defense or implementing new schemes on defense. I should say I think he makes a lot of sense before I get to John's take on it. I just wanna point out that he f- f- had Eric read great in as the highest granted Panthers secondary player in two thousand eighteen. But you know, he's bad. He doesn't deserve that kind of money. So John, what do you think of this re-signing? Are you a? Union in defiance of it. Okay. Like every basically ability said getting up in arms in making a big deal about the contract. When it's just when you just get two years in total value is not. Very savvy of like, how NFL contracts work 'cause they're all basically Shams like his less than half of his contract is guaranteed. So it's really a three year like three year one year two year ten million dollar deal. And if he sucks he's gone, and we don't have like a big commitment to Ed. We know he works here as the better, the the beach, you know, because even if he's not the best safety. We know he's not terrible. And we've see what happens with other safeties. We try to sign that aren't we don't think we'll be terrible like promise to who comes in. And is also very terrible. So I think he's a good move. It's also good that he's not like, you know, seventy five and a half years old as a safety. Yeah. As under under age thirty five like, that's a that's a start might be getting some. I was just gonna say that. Chris Bryan, let the lead the. This is way over you know, you're fine. Go talk. Well, no, so like on ODI area. So. Of as you call last year read made a lot of like tackles like some offensive tackles. But also has rump stock percentage within this up almanac. Those are like like run stop percentage out those are tackles at you should constitute a loss for the offense. That's how up PF to find it. And he was in the top half league in that regarding higher than guys like Derwin James Arison Smith T J McDonald air Guadeloupe guys who you consider to be top. Even Theron Matthew two guys who considered to be like best safeties. So like each sound like it sucks like Chiapas. He does things like really well. And I think that's pretty valuable. I wonder thing he playing with a like a limp shoulder for like the last half of the season. He was here. So and you get that made it very obvious impact on some of his tackles like you could see where he was just not able to wrap up with his left arm for awhile. And so that that he's out of every sound tackler by any means. But that definitely didn't help. Needs to be considered. And what Billy said kind of leads into something. I wanted to make a point of before we move on. So a lot of people are taking what he's making money wise and comparing him to other safeties in the league in they're kinda like just looking at the average salary, but a lot of the names that Billy named were either on rookie contracts or they're actually making more this season. Like, a good example, Eric Weddell making eight point six million. He's like what forty five years old? You know, there's guys like Eric berry guys like Harrison Smith where they're making like three to four million extra this year. Where it's there's more to it than just what you're paying them from a year to year basis in like a average part of it. Like what I've been what I was arguing on on Cass crash reader was that you gotta look at this contract. In the context of that safety. Value is going to go up because this is free agency and players who players get paid. They they make a lot more money than they sometimes they should. But that's just the way the free market works. You let a guy get out into the open in the open market. Teams are out there. Offers pushes up other offers, and eventually and other one team makes the offer that breaks the Bank, but it's usually higher and Panthers fans are mad because he's making like seven point seven million per year. But we're going to see contracts out there for like probably around nine to ten million year to year for a lot of these guys were taking free agency. Just because that's how free agency works has a pay top dollar for these guys. And also there is the whole thing where the cap goes up every single year. So there's naturally with that is going to be inflation in the contracts late. We'll see what the quarterbacks every time like every the next quarterback to sign. A new contract is always a highest paid quarterback of all time because of the, you know, the they're always they're taking a breath with the same amount of cap as like previous like free agent signings. There's just the caps higher. So the values the contract in a vacuum is higher. Like, of course, agreed getting in twenty nine hundred Eric Reid's contract is going to be bigger than contract another safety comparable safety signed in twenty sixteen. That's just how it works. So I'm not trying to troll here. But like. The falcons their first round pick for two thousand sixteen other safety. Kennedy L he's offered extension this here and island does a really good job of taking care of their employers. Like, you know, usually like when they're up for extension sized him. He'll get one. And like let's say he gets like nine or ten million dollars per year. Like ADL basis is guaranteed money like bills like two two and a half years. Like, are we sure like he's that much better than Eric greed? Like ozzy's a great player. I'll give you wrong. I just a little confused like why people think like redoes is like a replacement level player. I don't know what nails. He kneeled, dammit. Excuse me. Well, yeah. That Trump has certainly one. Even that like, I I think the Panthers like they're kind of like omniscient of the fact that they be like be marketed outside of Carolina. I know some people were skeptical, but I think it was last year where there were like a bunch of safeties who didn't get signed for like weeks like trae Boston didn't get signed to like training camp. Kenny Vaccaro hitting its until like week one or something. So I think this is probably like the safety market just correcting itself after no. Pretty poor. Contracts of for them into eighteen. I also think. The other thing I think Eric Reed was the reason for the safety market last year. Like, nobody wanted to be the team to sign Eric read because you know, all the the off the field stuff. And then nobody wanted to be the team that gave like would suffer the PR hit that came with signing a lesser safety. When Eric Reed was marketing in how every time a team signed a backup quarterback. And everybody's like, oh, they signed they signed Nathan Peterman, but Colin Kaepernick still out there. And that I don't think teams wanted to be like, oh, they signed this replacement level safety. Eric Reid's out there? See the NFL's colluding. So they're just like a no, it's just we just don't want to safety. We were just fine at safety. Everybody in the league is fine. It's because. Look at too is just that Tyron Matthew coming off of a major injury got seven million in the free agent market. So I imagine that had a lot to do with how the negotiations went because they were like, well this guy, you know, may not ever play at the level. He played out again. But he got seven million. So what am I gonna get? And obviously like trae Boston probably not worth that. But, you know, go head Billy. What were you gonna say? I mean trade Boston to be fair to him two thousand seventeen he came off like a really productive year for the chargers here like seven or eight interceptions. But still I think that greed was certainly like the cream of the crop is far as free agents go and was his name the guy Kerr Coleman like two days after he was released. He signed with the saints, which I just found a little odd. Because like they already have like it influx. An influx of safeties on their team. It really helps them this year that much either. Tell. Like, it wouldn't shock me. I know Thomas Davis like alluded to the fact that you might play. But like is this a suits like videos like it went shopping at all to goes to New Orleans up in love. Former panther players. Yes. He does. He is a huge fan. So obviously we talked a bit about Eric Green. That was a huge need for the Panthers. They needed safeties. I mean, they're they're starting safeties afford this signing were Dinara Searcy aka the walking talking concussion and respond golden who really didn't prove to be worth anything in his rookie year. So that was a big need. They address Nabi Asli. I will go on. I will go out there and say I felt that the Panthers biggest need going into the draft was going to be safety they addresses somewhat so far. So I'd be I I still think they might spend the higher draft pick on safeties. But looking at the draft. Now, let's just let's just you know, wipe away free agency for a bit because we don't know how it's going to happen with the defensive end and offensive tackle market looking at the draft. What do we think is the biggest the biggest priority as far as like what the Panthers address we spent all of last week going over that Billy? I know you weren't really a part of that. So give us your opinion on that. All well for me. I think it goes into different directions. Obviously we have to see how they build the roster in agency off by for right now the draft for tomorrow. I would say that offensive line is innate specifically left guard in center. And the reason I say that is because I I wrote it in my scalp report today that I published on a general Williams is that when Cam has like a clean interior Hockett like he's such more effective because you know, despite what people want to think of him like he does do a really good job of navigating. It's stepping up to the pocket like maybe it's not like Brady or Pete manager breeze. But it's you know, definitely like top of the, and so you saw in two thousand fifteen when he had Orwell Khalil who was playing opera level, and obviously trade Turner, and they had frigging Mike remers Michael oher their tackles like, yeah. Like a blue over their faces Super Bowl, but not gonna play von Miller every week. But at the same time, you just look at it. Look at the talent that they faced leading up to that game. They faced the cardinals with clay's Campbell on. You know, their interior hand. I would take for the most part that those three guys specifically norwell Khalil and Turner hubbub for like the majority of the season. And so that really helped Cam in my opinion, become like, a lethal pastern. I think if he has declared interior like the offense can go up another level. I'd agree there. I think that that van Roden is a high level backup for sure and possibly a starter. But they could definitely upgraded the left guard position, obviously center is a problem. John. What are your thoughts? Get I think it's kind of a tie right now between the offensive line and defensive end because both were major problems last year at night. Like I could be convinced either way into one like you need to protect Cam especially coming off as injury. And also our defense is always going to be terrible. If our pass rushes anemic as it was last year, and we're only getting older on that front. So there's not like, I know there is Markey's Hanes we took last year. But I don't know what his, you know. I mean, he's what was a fifth round pick. Like, I don't know what his long term potential isn't on everybody loves FAO badeah, but he's a long way from being consistent contributor, and if Mario Addison, and if that combination plus Mario Addison are starting defensive ends next year. We'll have some problems. I would agree there. I think you're both right in the sense. And obviously one thing we haven't discussed and one thing I really don't want to discuss as Mattiello's contract. But you're you're you're banking on a lot here with Matt Kalil being healthy enough to play left tackle with Panthers. Because obviously right now, it seems like they're probably going to let Daryl Williams walk because he's gonna have a market regardless of his injury. I mean, you got teams out there who have like a hundred million caps days. They might take a chance on him. So. Now, you have Taylor Moton, and maybe Mackel as you left tackle. So that's definitely a need for sure on the. Offensive tackle side. And obviously the left side of the line fell apart. Once was you know, Frank Clark at or excuse me. Chris Clark and Kyle van Roten and Ryan Kalil his on the last bit of or Greg van Roten's sorry and Ryan Kalil on the last legs is career at center. So that's that's definitely a problem. But as far as the front seven goes to I mean this team is really defined by the front seven pass rush the front seven stopping the run. So it's kind of a difficult situation. Be in an looking at free agency. Which will let's jump into that the defensive end markets seems to be pretty good. But there's also a lot of doubt as far as what guys gonna make it to March and be free agent. So Billy, why don't you give me your run down? A who you think the Panthers could potentially go after in free agency at fence fence? Do you think that offense tackles the biggest need in the draft? Well, a couple of things to add to that in. What when I was. So what whatever tune in the past couple of weeks gonna continue doing if another week or so is because Rivera has taken control of the defense in some respects, and he's going to be calling it. I would back to two thousand ten you know, how he was calling game this afford the chargers in any even to just check to see if those same principles schematic. Plo movements are going to be similar to what he did. When he was in charge of the defense, the final games here. And you know, he's been doing some radio every other every would like a teammate on his suggesting that they're gonna be multiple burning on even fronts, which means three four four three people have been suggesting that what I noticed was. He does blitz quite a bit. He to use us a lot of overload blitzes. And now that that was interesting to me because like young his S d'etre service in two thousand ten at the chargers where someone like Antwan Applewhite who played here for like a season to cut. The other guy's name. Sean volumes are not sorry. Yeah. Yeah. Sean Phillips was want. But there was another guy named Antoine as well after the last name anyway, like our point is he did it with lesser pass rushers. But he did a lot of like disguise overlooked blitzes, which means that he would have like two linebackers. You know, head up on a center than both dropping than they would bring like nickel corner. Blessing from the end chose just a confused defensive so unthinking that. I'm not saying they are going to pass like unaddressed shirt altogether. Like a couple of guys at piqued my interest right now or Preston Smith. I'd like them coming out of the draft two thousand fifteen while he played the past four years in Washington if they wanna take a look at him. I think he'll be probably commanding somewhere in this Sunday billion dollar range. Carolina surrounds academies for the end of the top guys. I just don't think they're gonna Ford the recital. Two guys. Frank clarkin DeMarcus Lawrence silent really them admitting the market, but I got like presence would make a lot of sense. But again, you're competing with other teams who have former cap space too. So Ryan, yes, that's why I'm just not sure they're going to be able to find that different making edge rusher in the. Infrequency? I think you're just gonna have to find like will level, but guys who probably the same talent as maybe younger guys, obviously, like a west important type or Mario Addison type. That I mean, I don't really know. I said the fish market too much for the groceries that I think that's the direction they might have to go in and amid the good there is this draft is pretty rusher. So they should be able to get a good one in the second round. Hopefully doesn't. That they find a guy who can actually contribute though, goes drafted that guy from Texas figures ago. He's already off the team. Much Shawn hall, much to the dismay of many many people. Because even in the league anymore. He was saw him make a special teams tackle for the eagles in the playoffs. A place for the eagles long. Yeah. So yeah. He'd moving up in the world. On september. First. He's laid by the Panthers. He was signed to the forty Niners practice squad in a week later. He was into the Texans off of foreign is practice squad later that month, and then was waived a month later, and then the eagles signed him in December. So we we we really we really miss the boat on that one. I mean, maybe we will eventually, but. I remember that draft because I wanted in address really badly and like a couple of picks before we selected the guy really one jerk reverse will also has kind of been anonymous that's career. I think he was drafted by the patriots. I think that fourth Carolina to just breach for address relation to be reaching for. In X amount. They played across from Garrett. You know? To. No, I saw some H. This guy was like actually creating like more opportunity for Myles Garrett later Bagley Myles Garrett but went for DeJean hall. Yeah. Exactly. Shot hall think all that double teams healthcare. Yeah. Then Myles Garrett is getting like sixteen sacks as a second year player. The other guys barely in the league. It they're gonna as one career sack. So he's doing pretty well. Looking at the free agent market. There's two names. The I am looking at with twice as many songs as John Hall. Sorry to interrupt. But so he's yeah. We did. We definitely miss that. One. Yep. We miss out on that one. Yeah. There's two names. I'm looking at that. I think could be brought in. But I feel like Panthers fans are going to be mad if they do because they're going to get aid more than they this this arbitrary market value that we like to argue about. The two guys are Brandon Graham and Derek Morgan. Grande is you know, what thirty at this point and Oregon has. And Derrick Morgan hasn't really been. He was pretty good. The last two years of the titans. But it took him a really long time to even get to that kind of place where you could say, oh he's productive. So I think that maybe they will go the go that route and get because my my theory with is. I don't think Ron Rivera will go to the draft not having some kind of backup plan. It just doesn't doesn't seem to fit his coaching philosophy to be like, okay. We have Mario Addison. We have these two scrubs. We're gonna find our edge rusher in in the draft. It just doesn't strike me as something in Ron rare would do I would think he'd be more likely to convince mardi Harney to take a chance on the safety or secondary positions than or even the offensive tackle positions than to take a chance on the defensive line. So I think those are two guys to watch because they could fill in as at worst to down to down starters for the Panthers. What which would still put them in position to draft? The guy. But I think those are two guys to watch in free agency myself. So the gentleman who helped us with the help Brad with the Michael. Cap applications article who I here, we know. Now, I'm not printing up Khalil upbringing those article that you wrote Jason FitzGerald from over the cap, he. An article about the potential for address her, and there are some pretty intriguing names. And once again like when you son guys get caught that doesn't factor into the conflict. So and the most important thing as Panthers fans dumping. That's that's that's what I lived for. That's what I live for. So I would give my first born son for with round pick pick. Brian. You mentioned Vinny curry a couple of names that kind of piqued my interest this list. Here are Olivier Vernon Andre branch who I don't. I don't think Prentiss very good. But love you Vernon Robert Cohen in Justin, Houston, he mentioned Seau's. I'm assuming those three guys will get caught because it does seem like their respective teams. Take pretty good Nimitz. Save a ton of money if they cut those guys. So I wouldn't be surprised by the Justin Houston there that they're going to be a trumpet Ford, and they say fifty million dollars if they cut Houston seems like a no brainer. Houston's making a metric crap ton of money. If I if I remember correctly. Yeah. Makes sense. I mean, so. Yeah. So the Houston Quinn. I mean, they they're certainly like on the wrong age. Are there certainly like pretty old? But if he's like one or two on track with like the first year like pretty. Highly guaranteed. I think they they could be convinced Carolina, especially Quinn. He he's from those Carolina. And he went to will is he girl. I know you went to school North Carolina. But sounds like I I wanna say he's. Yeah. I mean, he obviously he's in sounds like a North Carolina name. South carolina. Okay. I don't want to spread into fake news here. But he's still only twenty eight years old, which is kind of remarkable. Because like I remember when he was in the league the Rams, but yet like Olivier Vernon and proper Quinn would probably be like two guys. I would look very closely at should they be Cup of their team. Just to to get what you guys are saying that Justin Houston, his cap it for twenty nine teen is twenty one point one million dollars and they'll save holy Shiite. It'll say fourteen million dollars if they cut them outright. So seems like a note writer. Yeah. May I like the be? Clint name yet living furniture will be. Yeah. He on gives you send that huge deal into those sixteen and mobility issue with him as he hasn't really been healthy. And. Danta Jason mentioned this article or excuse me as less, but he's I think is sold pretty capable player. But the only issue with him are will issue. I think is that he's probably gonna come in, you know, somewhere north like ten million dollars per year. But he's released. But because I mean right now he makes like Bosa fifty or sixty million which is very high. Yeah. Is is salary guide him up right now to his salary his base salary. This twenty nineteen twenty twenty s fifteen million dollars, and is captured is nineteen point five. But he made the Pro Bowl. I guess is what I'm saying. I don't know. So that's. Yeah. Well, it's got a little Astro twenty lines. Pro football reference Bauge says selected approachable. In the best shape of his life. So, you know. But yeah, I we have basically enough money to sign like one or two good players in free agency. I can't imagine. We don't sign somebody at defensive end. Just because like Brian said, there's I I I really hope we learned our lesson with just saying like we'll just draft a guy to fill in the rotate to fill out the rotation and go from there because we try that what defensive tackle back in two thousand eleven try that with cornerback in two thousand sixteen and it just doesn't really say also do not have a propensity to trade back accumulate more picks. I I the all forward if they actually like it down from there from like pick into picked up a couple of day two picks. But I just don't see them doing that. Well, it's also ever really done that. Updated last year. But it was in the late rounds. It wasn't. Yeah. It was. He wants from the third to the fourth and you picked up an extra fifth, which he used that fifth to move back up to pick up markes hands. So eventually, it can be a point. I am. I I know what trade down land looks like it's place with lots of ferris wheels. And. Yeah. Believe on there. I'll believe that they trade down what they tried down for right now. I'm just gonna say that they're going to pick at six at all. I also don't see them trading up, by the way, I think that's not doesn't unless it's for Nick Boza like he falls like to the eighth hick. I just don't see any reason to trade up on that in LA reason, he actually falls is. He did something off the field fielder. Someone's submit some type of is similar to the Larry Tunsil went through. Maybe we need to get to work on that what's going on that what's get on. That guy's. It's crazy like donor. Remember, the people who are trying to disparage Lael Collins like about how he was involved in a murder. He like went undrafted crazy because he was a target ahead for the Panthers. You know? Third round. Yes. Something like that. Because they were picking pretty high that year like twenty so I consider them up to the target. But then. Obviously that was like a year the hardy stuff, but he wouldn't even like ever suspect either. It was just like, oh, he's a person of interest because he like knew the person like the victim. And it was like, oh, yeah. It was okay. We can't have this guy on our team who knows murder victims. Can I those character concerns in this locker room? Meanwhile. Meanwhile, the Panthers draft a guy like Bowe sandland in the seventh round is the guy who might have character concerns like Collins, you know, classic Panthers right there. You know who both last played for Packers, right? I could've swore. Maybe I know. I know Scott Simonsen I could've sworn I saw picked up by undermine. Now. He wants to the cardinals. Gotta Steve Wilks. I haven't said is what the giants thing. Yes, I'm as I was thinking of science. Dave Gettleman bought one of his old. Pet projects one of his old guys on speed. Dial. F course of potential cuts that you see. Make it. Yeah. I think I was projecting Motherland's Torrey Smith baby done poll. Brian Lee phrase that was very funny. Why I don't think captain's gonna make it? Yeah. It does. Captain dislike adversity right now. We'll try to. I don't know of any. He's on. He's gonna be able to pull it out pull out of it. Now, let's see at least what two million by Saint by cutting captain. Yet. I'm looking through us off track right now. I know with Tori, s will save five million for you cut him because I've been being told that the last year and a half by Panthers fans. Just the day. We traded for him. You we've been told that we can say five million dollars by cutting him. Shack. I feel like there's a lower that this gear. They're gonna let you cut out a little bit. You're you're a bit muffled. Can you hear me? Yes. Yes. I was what else is I think they might actually extend him and that way they can lower the cap number this year because if you look at their future like capital into twenty two twenty one it's like runoff twenty perfect. Sixty five million dollars in the cap and two thousand twenty one hundred nine million though, like from my perspective. I just think it makes a lot more physical sense to. Potentially like resigned or excuse me extent, shot cops him while also lowering that cop number for two thousand nineteen obviously like get it. Like he has put up to make all those questions about whether up to droughts us. I think he's been fine. But what same with Davis gone now? I think that you probably to have Thompson entertainment. I don't expect him to mand lots of money. Probably like, I don't know maybe an average per year Sunday million dollars. Yeah. Even if he's a good player. He hasn't. He doesn't have anything. He can point to say. This is why I've earned more money than that. I mean, who's Yuccas. He's he was he was stuck by slaying. Oh, he was not playing over a guy who's like sixty six years old. So yeah. It doesn't have any leverage. And like, and I'm on the. I don't want. I think I'm one of those people not that check Thompsons bad. I think there's an issue where it's kinda hard to separate shack Thompson's abilities effectiveness as a player from you know, how little value we got of him as a first round pick just because we picked a position like the deep. We picked the player that was playing the deepest position on the team. And it just has had limited opportunities as far. So I think it's hard to separate all like production from ability type thing to this point. It's not his fault that he shouldn't have been. I think what. I think what really brought up was actually a good point though. Because James Bradbury is on the docket to Greenwich. They're going to have to resign him next year unless they side the let him go, which I think would be a poor choice. It would be a mistake. Well, is that Healy has a nine hundred thousand dollars it for two thousand. I will action else. Get a one point two for two thousand nineteen. I think you can work on an extension after free agency in the draft that way you don't type recap Rome in the beginning of free agency. I think that just makes a lot more sense. But yeah, I mean right now like. I'm curious. What you guys think you guys like I would potentially cut if our the Panthers. I would save about. Let's see. I don't want to north Thursday jareth right loss cockerel, captain, Marlin Torrey, Smith and done Tari PO which still open for interpretation you save at least two million dollars even dead cap is around six million. But the only name I will I will stand on. There is a Jerry's right only because that was the one. I really didn't. I just don't. But. Yeah, he's this argument. I will keep him. He's been the best thing since Jericho Khatri. But I think there's arguments made to be cut to cut literally everybody else on your list. I mean Searcy hasn't done shits into Kim the Carolina, and that's not entirely his fault because he's been injured. But at the same time, it's a business. It's also kind of fault because he can't tackle. Right. And that's why he concussions. So there's some of the blame. There is both of the conditions. I remember I'm getting this year. He it was because he'd just torpedoed. Another guy's head's Ross Cockrel is and Billy you, and I I know you looked over the cornerback will almanac. I bought to begin last season and calm. Yeah. He's like a perfect fit for what Ron Rivera wants to do. He's perfect off corner zone guy. I think he would be an awesome v. Carolina. I think he'd be perfect this year. If they don't address the cornerback position. Let Dante Jackson kick inside or nickel on those three cornerback situations. But at the same time. I mean, if you think that maybe Cornell there is the guy you nickel. They've been talking that whole Luke guy every preseason talk up guys like that all the time. I mean, Lorenzo Doss those kind of. Lorenzo Doss, the all pro as far as CS Argos. But I think rose were pulling onto, but I don't know if he's not expendable, I guess is the best way to put it as a perk. I got you. Yeah. He's a perfect fit for this system. But at the same time there's a lot of corners out there who can play pretty much exclusively zone and B O M B O K as well. So because that's why he didn't make with dealers, and that's why he didn't make the giants each just could only really play zone. So anyway, John what were you saying? The I mean, the only reason I say that is because. I don't know when he'll be able to return from his injury. I mean because he had surgery in like August. Really now, you know. Early in that. Well, number July thirty there was when he got hurt. Yeah. He I remember the I was actually in. I was in Europe. When the news broke that he suffered a. He fractured. His fibula. I mean. Fortunate. I get it. But I don't know. I just feel like. It's a question about whether he can come back to full strength. But. I think we're both in agreement that captain at Torrey Smith, probably two guys who are definitely odds. Especially how little we use toys Smith at the end of the year wasn't. He wants. Yeah. But he came back in. Because he came back. I want to say with like four or five games left by plenty of season left. And we're just like now, we're DJ more on Curtis Samuel. Here's right. So her two Samuel. That's that's when we gotta talk about four hundred podcast. Speaking of guys, we can keep me speaking as we can cut and save money, right? Same cheese. Yes. It's so funny. How my Curtis Samuel is. And I know Billy Billy I talked. We we message a little bit about it. And I'm not loving you into this Billy? But like there are people where I say Curtis Samuel is fine. And they're like, why do you hate Curtis Samuel so much? Like, I didn't say he was bad. I said he was bad as. Yeah. He certainly wasn't good as a rookie. I don't think anyone would deny that people denied that a lot of people denied that. They add. Yup. Yeah. That's fair. That's fair. I just think that I don't think he's injury prone. I think that the injury that even suffering injury like a heart like heart problem. A minor Harpo. He had a ham. He was on the injury report with a hamstring injury for a couple of weeks at the end of the year. Any miss some of camp before the heart murmur with a hamstring back or something and last year he had a couple of injuries. So he's had like a various different ailments and he's had a couple of different hamstring problems in the twos. He's been here. Yeah. I'm you know. Yeah. I guess it's tough because with receivers they play like a such a technical. Game. And it's difficult to kind of be anything guys that you see that barely ever get her like, Larry, FitzGerald or. Way those bigger type receivers even funchess. He's dealt with his fair share of injuries throughout his career. I just think that. In for the position that he plays. A lot of quick movement into the lunch scrimmage in kind of making decisive shifts cuts. Yeah. I don't know. I'm I'm obviously, I don't I think he showed enough last year that you know, he could be a potential like long-term ex if he shows it does your too, I just I'm a little hesitant to all injury prone right now if he shows if he does have the same type of injuries next year, I might be on board with that. I'm just a just not there yet. We have to remember John. John hate. Yes. Stan with every fiber of his being the after member that when make these every single one of those fibers. But it's just it's so funny because like. I think he's been you know, if you're looking at it from so far LA's, I think it's too early to say like definitely for his career. He's injury prone. But like so far he's been injury prone up to this point. In like, it's too early to say if that's just bad luck. Or if that's a, you know, just one of these just one of those people who just has, you know, his body doesn't hold up, and I still, and I agree that he does have potential to be a good contributor because he's been very good on is the deep balls and stuff which I said when I wrote about like what he's done to this point. Like, he's I've been very impressed with his ability to kinda almost be like Tyler Lockett -i Tyler Lockett, liken respect where he's not very big. But he's he's very good. At tracking the ball deep in winning the depot. So he definitely has used their I've been and so I I don't think he's been bad. I just don't think he's been as it's just it's weird. I just think it's a weird. A little thing. The the hype has match what he's done so far. I guess I'm not understanding who is like hyping it like like who are these people? Some there's some people on Twitter and a lot of people in comments sections. Your buddy Marxist best receive around the Panthers team. Well, I don't think that's too hot of a tick right now. I think that more it's still kind of learning a lot of things I didn't mean to be an asshole. I was. Yeah. No. I think that he goes a little too far when he says that like Samuel reminds him of Steph on. That's like I do agree that stem cells release in does is very similar to stuff on. I just think that does a lot more as a receiver that doesn't really get noticed by him. But like let me let me. While I'm actually looking at out that two thousand seventeen utter super classes, actually, quite impressive. The what? Which two thousand seventeen wide receiver Kloss. The one that. Yeah. I mean, obviously Samuel was you know, a pretty high second round pick. But. The other guy who had drafted the first top ten down Ross. He's been really disappointing. Why? But anyway, so like I think a couple of your when the when you mentioned like the production. I think that's fair. But I also think that a lot of that has to do with Rhonda viral like someone would ever coach like holding it back for whatever reason. I don't think they played a face. Like there was there was one point. Like, I think after the giants are eagles game where he had like six touchdowns on like twenty inches like. Would you like of that? At one point Samuel was pacing a touchdown every four touches. Yeah. So I don't know. I just feel like he obviously didn't see him out of breath said he probably should be sing for good reason. I guess if he was coming off injury on. And then you obviously saw starting to put it all together. Later in the year like the touchdown. He had against Detroit. Like that was so good like the way he was able to release interest get up feel all I love that play. I. I hate it. I hate it. It was the worst thing I've ever seen. I that that Detroit gave was like one of the biggest optimism type games for me because I saw DJ more basically just juke Darius slay out of his fucking cleats with his hip turn on that one touchdown pass in the end zone and Curtis Samuel just beat a guy right off the right off the line of scrimmage caught a pass. And I was like damn these guys could be really good if they can be consisted like that. So. And if you remember like Gettleman, you know, his draft he drafted funchess than. And Benjamin which never made much sense to me at you guys know, Mike Lombardi is on Twitter. He his podcast with the ringer to. Like, what are the things that he preaches on I guess because he worked with bell chug is probably something that you have taught him any work would they actually cited from Al Davis. It's like you said that your receiver that wide receiver or it'd be like a starting five in basketball. So you should have guys do different things and would Samuel I think that the brains element of like fertile separation and opening up the fields and with more. He's more like a short intermediate guy. We can pick up yards after catch. I think funchess last year was a guy that. It was almost like like their center. He would you know? To like the short in breaking routes, but he also of be bled upon the red zone to and by all -cations. It seems like the going to. They're not going to resign him. So they had to find that guy next year. And then a guy like Jerry Astrid is probably like, you're reliable like shooting guard small forward guy, can can I click utility guy just gets open when you need him in certain moments a complaint about his snaps or anything so Bill you brought you actually segue into the perfect part of the last point. I wanted to bring up for odd cast, which is Devon punches. So obvious out of here. Yeah. He's definitely out of here. This point doesn't really seem like they have any reason to bring him back. Otherwise, you probably would have played more snaps at the end of the year. So my question is do we think the wide receiver core is okay? The way it is. Or do we think airline is going to try and find a? You know replacement for funches, Billy. You can go ahead and start off at that. I actually I might be in the minority. I would not be opposed to them bringing funds of all I think. I just I mean, the wide receiver core the crop of bridging talents. Does at release a billing? But if they wanted to find a guy in the drought. Fourth-round would be okay with that guy. Similar to funchess as far as like a big body guy can kinda separate in Ron a diverse route tree, AVI cooled that. But I mean by all the -cations like after he was. You know place after he didn't even sued him up for weeks of tea. I just think is pretty much out the door. Yeah. It doesn't seem like they have any. There hasn't been really any indication. They're going to bring him back. I mean, there hasn't been a articles from the Charlotte observer talking about negotiations. I mean, really all heard his that funchess wants to back dot dot dot. And that's it. So. I think Carolina needs to have that kind of like vertical? Guy who can win in one on one mismatches. But at the same time, if they think that ROY Olson or even Tom or even Ian Thomas is that guy. I mean, maybe they invest that capital somewhere else. That much is would be very productive. If they bring him back. I mean twenty seventeen he played in the way way worse. Receiving core was productive. I think maybe he just had a bad year. Maybe he had a couple of steps back. But at the same time, you would expect a guy like funchess after twenty seventeen to step forward. And he just reverted back to what we saw in his first two years. So it's a really tough question to ask as to whether they should actually bring funches back or, you know, find his replacement, but I think Carolina needs that dimension to their offense. And if they're comfortable with Greg Olsen were Thomas, they're fine. If not I think they do need to try and pursue that at least for Cam. Because he needs a guy like that. I think I wouldn't like I think they they should do something. I'm sure they'll try to target some sort of bigger wide receiver e whether that be fraying funchess back or like Billy said somewhere later like in the middle late part of the drafter if they're all in the know who the free ages are to some low level free agent. But. I think the the core of bright more in Samuel isn't amaze. Not great by any means. But it's probably better than we've had for a lot of the last few years. I know it MRs that like tall vertical? Spacing the vertical target in terms of vertical like, height wise. But all three of them have their different ways. Like Billy was saying complementing each other getting open in different parts of the field and stuff. So I it's not flashier, you know, big name by any means. But I think it would work well enough, especially if cams arm is strong enough to utilize Samuel as deep threat. I mean, we saw Cam Newton put up the best quarterback numbers. He's ever had with Philly Brown, Ted Ginn, essentially, taking the lion's share of the staff. So I agree. I think there's receiver core is better than that group. I mean, Ted Ginn had the dimension of being a really hard to cover deep threat. But other than that. I mean, like, skillset wise these guys are the same. If not way better than a lot of the things he had there. So really the the x factor there, then is a guy like Greg Olsen like a security blanket. And I think Jerry's right. Can be that guy. If if Newton shoulder is healthy. But again Cam's been very productive when he's had a guy who can he can kind of throw the ball up to in the end zone. Let the guy make a play on. I don't know if they have anybody like that aside from Greg Olsen right now. Yeah. But like I said like DJ more is better after the catch will McCaffrey to meta after the catch than anybody ever had than Carolina with Emden would even argue Curtis Samuel to despite. Before he could. And he's been very good like as a balk area. Just for some reason he hasn't been able to translate that to the same place where he catches passes. But he did that touchdown against the giants. Which was that the that was a rough now. No, it was a screen. Actually, right. Yeah. I I saw the to you. I think that you might have an like I watched it. And I've read about it was the one where he broke four tackles getting in the end zone. Yeah. More. Yeah. They faked the screen one more became more of that would be good. But yeah. And then he's better than Ted Ginn is in terms of his hands, especially on deep passes. So like there's like if we if we were good with with that receiving core. Cam can be good with digit more Curtis Samuel jarash, right because jazz rights, basically, courtesy our is basically the same zero Khatri Samuels a better Ted Ginn and DJ Moore's Philly Brown way better than Philly Brown. Philly a- catch the ball or fall down every time. I catch it Brown. I dare say he is basically like many Steve Smith is his career DJ more after the catch for sure. Yeah. That that man is is bad running people over in fit. Great. I love it. I love watching DJ more play for that reason. Just watching them plow through a safety. Like we had nothing that I love after mocking. I watched that plague Billy I forgot about that play. We're Curtis Samuel Burke eighteen tackles for his first career touchdown more of that would be nice. He said our here. Here's a here's our conundrum though. What did you rather have those routes Goto DJ more? Yes. Yeah. And then you probably want Samuel to continue to run like those in breaking route fifteen at twenty yard depth. But also, I guess contributing in some areas with screen passes slant routes, whatever just feel like. I you can really differ suffi- the route tree of each player if you just play to their strengths in my opinion. Honestly, though, like I think that having two guys that similar like they catch the ball. They could score type skill set is good. And I don't think you really need to relegate one guy to being one one guy being another type route runner like that makes defensive coordinators scared because you have to guys where unemployed they could run the ball or the catch the ball. And they could beat your defense in score. Like, I think Carolina's a really good place right now as far as like. Guys can punch it in on any given play. What I worry about is those guys who can move the chains. I think Jerry's right is good for that. But I feel like they need to have another big body guy who can win on those on one. I'm throwing the ball up and you're going to catch it type plays. And that's why I am worried about not having punches round. But I think as you said they could find a guy like that in the draft maybe in Thomas or maybe even even him. Yes. Correct. Or Greg Olsen if his if his two feet or not, you know like Greg Olsen both eat. Yeah. Yeah. And he's not walking on gravel. Internally. Oh. All right. Well, do we have anything else who want to cover on this podcast me? I know we had a lot to cover. Now going to the draft and afterwards. So we we've we've made it to like an hour. Plenty long enough people don't need your more of a set in believe him wanting more. Yep. They always gotta be yearning for more of us. Billy, do you have anything else? You want to bring up or anything else? You wanna talk about for we sign off tonight. Yeah. I mean, if if anyone was really interested in following the draft notes during a pickup. These next few weeks. Via the combine is next week. I believe the drill start that Friday. So I think a ABC show this with. Often watch keep track of some of their favorite prospects. Should check that out. Because now, it's my favorite events. The both cycle heats up here. Gotta love how three what Rives a guy up the draft boards. And you really what better? Do you have to watch at eleven o'clock in the morning on Thursday. Very well. Anyway from all of us here at the keep sounding podcast. We will be breaking down a hell of a lot more with Billy. Thanks again for joining us, and he will be around for the draft. And even hopefully after that. So we will be breaking down the wrath. Regency everything pants related here. Probably at least once a week for the next few weeks. 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Episode Nineteen: Michael Lewis

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Episode Nineteen: Michael Lewis

"South beach. Sessions is presented by T so official watch of the NBA shop at US dot T. So shop dot com. Hello. This is Dan Le Batard. I was a baseball dork as a child I would watch the line scores come across my television. That's how I was following Yankee games on television. Just the line scores. Every three minutes, the number would change. And I would find out whether the Yankees scored top half wolfing or not you are lame. I was super lame. I was forty one years old. I was also reading Bill James abstracts. And so I figured I knew baseball. I thought that I knew baseball from being a child on. And then I picked up moneyball by Michael Lewis. And he taught me about all sorts of things that I didn't know and how it is that the Oakland A's were exploring and exploiting market inefficiencies. And so that's how I discovered my Lewis and Michael Lewis does that basically with any subject he decides to apply himself to even Malcolm glad while looks at Michael Lewis? And says I wish I could do it the way that he does it all of that said, I really respect this guy from number of different reasons. He's written books liar's poker about the financial world. He he takes interesting subject matter. And makes it more interesting. And so I enjoy talking to him. I remember I think the last time we talked to him he spent a few days with Barack Obama. And he was just the details were extraordinarily in that story. You can find it on the internet. But just what it was like to be around the nuclear football. Yeah. He has a great story about how he was left alone with a nuclear football. And if you're a fan of Michael Lewis like Dan is make sure to check out his podcast against the rules with Michael Lewis. Well, thank you, Mike. So while you're here, can you tell the people about the people who are sponsoring this. So that our people when they rate subscribe and review, they can also support our sponsors before we get to Michael Lewis. 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Everything that's coming at you from Lebanon infringe, which we are still building out that will include this New York trip that we're making here to do something that is going to become part fiasco and part extravaganza were growing out everything that we're doing here. And we ask you to support the sponsors who are supporting us because that's what keeps it all afloat and will allow us to keep bringing you better. And better stuff. We've got a assortment of writers in the coming weeks Carl hiaasen Dave berry, some of my writer, friends, but this guy. There is none better doing it. In American terms of exploratory journalism and explanatory storytelling. Michael Lewis here yet. I don't think there is anyone who takes complicated subject matter and makes it bite sized and digestible for a reading audience better than Michael Lewis has over the years with a number of different projects that I wanna talk to him about. He has a new podcast against the rules. You should subscribe, new episodes available weekly on itunes, Michael first of all thank you for being on with us. I have been a big fan of yours since the first book of yours. I picked up which was moneyball and sort of change the way that I looked at things you do a great deal of that was that was that your big break sort of teaching baseball about baseball. I would say my big break was my first book was liar's poker? Which was about my time working on Wall Street. I think that sort of set up the career that money, we're I think we're moneyball fits into my my my career is gave me license after that to write about anything. I wanted to because it was such a departure from sort of things I had written about. And there was some mild skepticism that I should be running about sports. And when it worked man that until I screw up anyway allowed to kind of go do what I wanna do. Well, what was your life? Liar's poker was one thousand nine hundred eighty eight nine hundred eighty nine and I eighty nine right? What was your life like right before that? But when I published it, what was I always I was twenty eight I had some savings from working on Wall Street, and I was working as a freelance magazine writer, but you know, I've been working as a freelance magazine writer. For the year since I left Wall Street was so immersed in the writing of that book. And I was so I I was so idiotically sure it was going to work. I wasn't living in a state of exile. Or penury? I felt I felt like this is all gonna work out. Let's give it a whirl. And the interest in me writing. I mean, I had a handful of editors of magazines that would take my stuff, but after liar's poker, I could kinda right for who. I wanted to as long as I was sort of in and around the financial world hold on a second. Explain this to me shitting me you write liar's poker? You write it. And you have no doubts that that's going to be what's next for you. And your late twenties. Oh, I'm going to be a successful author for sure this'll be easy. Yeah. You know? That's what happens when you're twenty seven twenty eight years old, right? You think you're immortal, but what had but, but but what had set me up to feel that way? With I'd written several things about Wall Street while I was on Wall Street that had gotten a lot of attention or would seem to me to be a lot of. Attention. And so I did feel like the world would be interested in this story is interesting as it was maybe not. But it, but it was, but I did think the story would have an which audience. What what draws you to that kind of subject matter the big short liar's poker? Like what specifically is it about money or Wall Street? That's most interesting to you. What do you think of it? That was at the heart of liar's poker was what two things were going on the on the surface. I mean, the the the big things going on as you got this. This this financial sector becoming we've come to know and love I mean, it just it exploded and change. And I was sitting in the middle of a change. But underneath that the thing that really interested me was his anybody was gonna pay me all that money to give financial advice because I knew I didn't know anything. I mean, it would just how preposterous it was. And what attracts me to that place is just how distorted values. Are you spend a lot of time talking about the sports world and in the sports world. Yeah. There guys. Get paid more than they should and their guys. We don't get paid as much as they should. But it pales in that the distortions are small in relation to a place. Like Wall Street where you have. I mean, just people being paid out of all proportion to their value to the society. And I think that's what energize me in the first place. Spent twenty years. Correct me if I'm wrong, basically writing about this thread that fascinated you which is how we value things in one way or another right? Like, you're you seem to be you seem to gravitate at every turn whether it's the blindside anything else where can I see market inefficiencies? Where can I see things others don't? And then let me play with that. That's true. I mean, there are things that their books of mine and magazine articles of mind that don't really fit into that story. But maybe I wrote a little book about my high school baseball coach I wrote a little book about fatherhood. I mean, they're they are the undoing project the book about the two Isreaeli psychologists, although that I guess that does fit into it in a way I mean because they're they're explaining why we miss value things. So yeah, I mean is one of my great interests that I think that it's an interesting sort of near the center of our world because we live in a market driven world. And and how markets value things is very interesting subject. When did it become so for you like why did it becomes? So for you. Because you one of the arts that you've crafted as you are really able to explain this stuff to to idiots you're able to explain it to us in a way that if it were complicated before you read what you're writing your say, wait a minute. Why is this the only person writing this because some of the stuff should be obvious to others? Well, if the questions we're how I I got interested in all this. I think that they're two things one is I had extremely happy childhood, which is normally I a disadvantage for a writer, but I strongly happy childhood in in essentially, a dying society, I grew up in New Orleans and the value system. There was very different from the value system I encounter when I left it. I in many ways preferred the value system in New Orleans, and so that that energizes me a bit. I think when I hit Wall Street, and I see that we're money matters. So much. Kind of unsettles me. But then the fact that I saw and I live the experience of being valued myself in a very pleasant way. I mean, but the people were hurling money at me to do something I really shouldn't have been doing. I think that's that energize me. The second part is like how you explain things to people, and how you spend complicated things to people and the to rules one is I make myself explain it to my children, or my wife, and my mother before I write it because that forces me to address an audience that doesn't know anything and put and that's the big thing. I think is getting yourself in a state of mind where you don't even though you've learned it all your you kind of back in the state, my we you remember what it's like nut to know anything in the huge vantage people who know things trying to explain it to people who don't know things is that they know the things that they can't remember what it was like not to know them. So that they failed a sort of empathize with the person who they're they're talking to do. You win writing about Wall Street. Find yourself often appalled by the greed corruption or whatever it is that you're seeing that you're just like this. Ain't right, man. Yes. And I and it isn't that I dislike on Wall Street people. So when my best friend's work on Wall Street, but it it is it's just a place where people get paid way more than they should for what they do. And in addition, it's also a place on top. It's always been that place. It's just gotten a bit worse. But on top of that, it's a place where people are incentivized to do things that are actively at times, actively destructive and and made to feel like in doing them. They're they're a big success because they get paid a lot of money. And these are things that are not against the law. It's just like incentive systems are screwed up. And they drive people to behave in certain ways, they shouldn't. What do you think is the most appalling thing about Wall Street right now like what the story that? I that. I that. I wrote in the book flash boys is still just in the mazing -ly appalling story to me and his part of this podcast, actually. And it's at the heart of capitalism are these stock exchanges and the stock exchanges in the last decade have ceased to become be fair referees between buyers and sellers and have started. I got into the business the very lucrative businesses of of selling speed advantages to some of the to some of the people some of the players so that high speed traders can exploit other people, and there's this huge money in this it, but it is an avocation of their essential responsibility. And that nobody is making more of think about it. Although the SEC is just starting to make us think about it is amazing to me. Explain to me why this is so poorly governed because you've been in and out of this world. Why is it? That this is something that you are finding things that should probably be regulated and be found by others. It's not that. I'm the only one who knows it. You know, it's stories are hidden in plain sight. The problem is that when something breaks on Wall Street figure this way, you can think of Wall Street like this think of a giant oil pipeline running from Canada down to Houston and someone comes along and knocks a hole in the pipeline somewhere in the mid west and oil gushes out of it not so much that the world doesn't some oil doesn't eventually reach Houston. But you you have this gusher in the mid west coming out of the side of this pipe. It's inefficient. It's kind of fast. But what happens if the person who knocks the hole in? It is an honest straightforward person without any kind of self interest. They say, oh, come fix it. But Wall Street people aren't like that with they do is they build a little village around the hall, and they starting to make lots of money off the oil coming out of the side of the pipe. And when people come in and try to police them regulate them, they pay the regulators not to do. So. And that's the big problem. Big problem is when a whole gets knocked in the side of the financial markets, and people are making money in ways, they shouldn't they have the ability to go into the regulatory system with those vast sums of money and distort the regulation, essentially, the regulators is owned by the the people who are being regulated which your viewer books was the most difficult to write the most difficult to right was the undoing project because I was dealing with two people the main characters Amos terrifically, Danny condom in two psychologists who were so much smarter than I was I sent deep down, and I was never going to be able to do them Justice. So that was there was a little scary. The most complicated thing to explain within the big shorts in the sort of the the financial instruments that the at the heart of the financial crisis. When you say scary. What it's scary. Look like. Scare you mean scary when I felt scared by my subjects. Yes. You're scared by your subject, you're sitting there and tackling a book every time I've talked to you about your book writing. I've envied that your process doesn't seem to be too pained. And so when you say that there's subject matter that you find scary because you can't rise to their level. I find I want to know what the nature of that looked. I had the the the the first symptom of this with how long it took me to write that book. I started I published it in two thousand in seventeen but I started working on it in two thousand and eight and I wrote the big short flash, boys. I don't know. What else why I instead of writing it because I kept putting it to one side. So I procrastinated horribly with it because I just kept thinking, no, I'm not the one to do this in the writing of it once I finally engaged with it. And and there were reasons I finally gauged with it. The reason. The reasons I finally gauge with it became clear that no one else was going write it in a lot of the people who are in the middle of it were dying off. So if I didn't write it soon, I never ride it once I gauge with it. I cease to be frightened. But it was just it was just getting going with. It was the problem. Understand and help the listener understand here because you were doing how the mind screws with us how you're basically writing about the brain the human brain, you know, while with two of the smartest people you'll ever meet, right? Yes. To the smartest people who are also actively hostile to the idea of story, which is what I'm telling right because they there are there arguments, essentially that the mind it instead of moving through the world and making the probabilistic calculations it should be making even when there's just statistics available to make those calculations. Instead with the mind does is it tell stories they're filled with all kinds of problems. And and I was going to approach them by telling a story that was no doubt filled with all kinds of problems. That was a certain innovation. Actively hostile how they were showing the way these stories we tell ourselves to make sense of the world around us have all these mistakes buried in them systematic mistakes. And they were they were explaining it. Funny way. The the story of moneyball like why baseball players get miss valued by people who were just eyeballing them. The fact that I was reducing them to a narrative to story. They would both the one one was not living. But I'm sure they would both say to me. Yeah. It's a nice story. But the very active telling the story is going to distort us. What did you learn about the brain that you found most fascinating? Or if you were explaining it to your kids in assuming they didn't understand what are the things that you would point to if you want to be smarter, and how you live your life. You really need to watch yourself and be aware of certain mistakes. You'll always make you'll always exaggerate risks that are really vivid like just like catastrophe remote catastrophes, if they're really vivid in dramatic, and you'll always underestimate things that aren't dramatic or or or vivid. You'll think in stereotypes, yes, it's bad to be bigoted and prejudice. And all that. But the fact is the brain is wired to think it kind of crude stereotypes. And so be aware of that. When you're hiring someone for a job, if the person looks the type be wary of that. And similarly if you don't like someone for a job because because they don't look right in some way, be wary of that your mind is. Telling you to do things that if you probably shouldn't the mind is a bit of a poison. Yes. The mind is a useful crew tool. It's sort of like good enough for the job. But it makes these systematic mistakes. And if we're aware of those mistakes, we can use it better. And what would you point to that? You learned about your own brain that was actually helpful to improving your life because someone who has to spend as much time thinking as you must have difficulties turning off his brain. I don't want any trouble at all. During off my brain. I'm about to do it in five minutes. Okay. Very good. I'm surprised you didn't do it five minutes ago. Maybe board by the question. Yeah, I'm sorry. I hate to disabuse you of your of your idea me. No, I'm frayed. I turn it off pretty easily. And I just said the single biggest thing is just how wary I am of my own stereotyping of people. I just back away. I try to ask myself. Why I think what I think not all the time. I'm too lazy to do it all the time. But it does occur. And I give you a little metaphor for how I how it's affected my attitude towards risk. A concrete example is also a metaphor like everyone else when I'm out driving on the California freeways when they're when I see an accident. You know, in this carnage on the highway much more careful as a driver for the next, you know, thirty minutes when his actually that's probably the safest time right after everybody's seen an accident. And everybody's a little more careful. So now, I make an effort to be a lot more careful when it seems like the situation has trouble free when it's sunny, and there's no obvious threats and. That's I you know, you sort of like you're in the idea that you're at most risk when you're not aware of the risk. I kind of internalized that as a result of that book. So you listen to fear. Yeah. I do fears a funny thing because you get scared when you see the carnage on the highway, and that's when you probably should be the lease scared 'cause the bad things happened. It's like nothing bad has happened for a long time is when you need to be most worried, which of your boots, would you point to and say that one surprised me, I was writing it for this reason. And then it became that. That's really interesting. I think maybe the blindside that surprise me in just the richness of the subject, and then I can put the book surprise me. And then it took me in a direction, I didn't expect that hard question. Because by the time, I actually sit down to write I have. So thoroughly plotted the thing that the surprise doesn't happen. Once the writings starts happens on the level of sentence level of paragraph. But the story doesn't usually change take me through it though. So the blindside you are writing your again gravitating toward a market inefficiencies value. How we value things you find a left tackle who store? He wanted to write about the left tackle, you didn't go in thinking to write the story of Michael oher? Right. It's the prize me how good a story. There wasn't a place. I wasn't looking for a book Sean to who is the dad in the blindside, Tim McGraw played him in the movie, who's the the white father who adopts the black child was my school classmate from age five to eighteen and I just happened. I hadn't seen him since high school. And I happened to be a Memphis, and I visited him and in his living room is this, you know, three hundred pounds six foot four inch fifteen year old illiterate black child, he's just taking in. And I just started. I didn't think I was gonna write a book about my childhood friend. It was bizarre. It just kind of mushroomed. And then, but I had at the same time in talking to the San Francisco forty Niners front office about what had. Happened to the distribution of money on the football field. And seeing this weird thing that since free agency had been the birth of free agency, the left tackles pay had skyrocketed. And then it turns out this boy, and my friends living room is, you know, projected as a future first round draft pick left tackle because he has all the attributes of a left tackle at the age of seventeen. And then all of a sudden, there's a story about it. It's not just about football. It's about all the forces in the world that affects the value of this boy and one of them is what ball and football strategy. And another is the fact he has a mother all of a sudden, so in terms of being surprised by a story that was the biggest surprise because you know, it really is it just it never occurred to me that I'd be writing about someone from my past that way thorough. You are caring. You're going to take great care. Past were you hurt by Michael or not liking the movie he moved in stages on this subject? He the book obviously, preceded the movie by several years, and he seemed to like the book. Alright. And so that was the important thing to me. And then with the movie, they were it was complicated because the people who made the movie got rich. I mean, they, you know, they made it for thirty million dollars, and they gross half a billion dollars, and Michael Laurie didn't see Nikolov that are hardly Nikola that and I think that partly informed his hostility to the movie, but I think also informed is still in the movie was not the movie itself. But the reaction of some of the football players to the movie, I mean, they got teased about it. So it was a little hard to know how deeply off put he was by the movie it self as opposed to these other things have you said all that. I really like, Michael. And I really wanted him to be happy. And I just I was a little sad that it didn't take more pleasure in it. Because I think he could have gotten a lot of pleasure from it. If he viewed it a different way. But the movie you said all that the movie is in me the booze. Not my book. It's other people doing this thing. So I didn't feel all that responsible for the movie so cocky, twenty plus you isn't imagining that his books are ever going to turn into movies. The big short, right. You're not not even the cockiest. You is expecting that. Well, you know, it's funny liar's poker was bought instantly. And I thought why not and all these different people were said they're gonna play me and Marlon Brando was gonna play John good friend, and they're writers are writing it. And I thought oh this is and then it didn't happen. And then for years and years and years p books and magazine articles would get bought by the movies, and I began to the movie industry as this machine for throwing money at me for no good reason. I saw I did just kinda give up on the idea that he's ever going to be movies. And I didn't care all that much. And then all of a sudden the blindside happens. And kind of accidentally. I mean, the movie industry would not have made the blindside the blindside got made after every movie studio rejected it as not commercial and Fred Smith, the founder of FedEx, a who lived down the street from Tui's in Memphis, and whose son was dating there. Dr Who watched the whole story in real time said that's a great story. I'll pay for the movie to be made. But I'm going to do it on a shoestring and made everybody look like a fool, and so that changed my relationship to the movie industry because all of a sudden people said, maybe there's something in these books. Talk to you. You had spent time with Obama, and you got all the details. It was really well reported, but beyond that, I remember you seeming to really enjoy doing that. When you think of your projects, joy and joy in the process. Is there one that stands out? Like as more pleasurable than all the rest. Just joining join the doing of it. They're all pretty fun. Even if they're hard in places. They're all joyous experiences. But I gotta say that of all of them moneyball was is a real pleasure in that. Because I played the game game it meant so much to me. But I hadn't really paid all that much attention to it. And I and I got the dive back in and be on the edge of this thing that was clearly more important than just baseball. There was a thrilled that it was peculiar tell me about it though, because this is primarily a sports audience, and it was my introduction to you. Because I was reading a book keeping mine. I I grew up on Bill James baseball abstract. So I didn't think I was an idiot. But I'm reading your book, and I'm like, oh, I didn't know this. I didn't know this. I didn't know this and just page after page, I didn't know this. And it felt like baseball read at the same way. Well, those feelings you had I had those. Phillies as I was marinating in the front office of the Oakland A's. So I had all those same sensations. And I think baseball had. I mean, the baseball had opposite a hostile reaction to it at first it was really quite threatening to most of the people who were in front offices and scouts and all the rest and everybody was angry at me. I didn't get the sense that baseball people were picking up my book and saying, wow, he's really taught me something. I think they picked up by book and said who's this idiot. I've never heard of who saying that. We're not running our franchise. Well, that was the first reaction of baseball insiders, the owners had a different reaction. I mean, the reason I think the book gain traction was I had an audience, you know, with the kind of people who own baseball teams from the financial books, and they read the book or their friends read the book and call the friends who ran the teams and said you're being screwed by the people who run in the team. And then you start to see transformation in the front offices, which was cool. I made it was it's interesting. It can be. I mean, Billy bean started it, but you started at by reporting all of it because that was a seismic change in the entire landscape where we realized oh everyone's been doing the measurements wrong. But when you say people were angry with you. What do you remember about the hostility who were the names that are calling? You names. It was scouts who felt threatened and their friends who were kind of beat writers baseball America typewriters who felt insulted. It didn't much matter. In fact, it probably was good for the book that there was some controversy right from the beginning. And that people weren't just also happy with it. And the truth is if you write anything that's going to at all meaningful. You're gonna kick off somebody the deeper truth. I think was yeah. The book maybe excel arrested this change in the sport. But I was only a step ahead of what was happening. The Boston Red Sox had just been bought by John Henry, and he was trying. To hire Billy bean to come do for him what he'd done for Oakland and was going to do it one way or the other. And I think if I had not written the books and main effect would be for the Boston Red Sox and not the Oakland A's have gotten the credit for revolutionizing the sport. Theo Epstein used all of your principles where it got him from. I find interesting though, what you're saying. So baseball owners have enough money, and no you're writing because you're writing smartly about the financial game. And so they realize wait a minute. I'm paying my baseball staff to largely be idiots. To mismanage my resources. In addition, the backdrop to all this is the kind of person who's owning sports franchises changing. He's becoming a is becoming a tech guy or a finance guy who people who are more or kind of comfortable with data and analytics, and so they're open to this new way of thinking about it because it's a way they can compete when they're in the room with the people who know the sport. So I think that there was an openness on the part of these people to this kind of message, and that is how chain I mean, that's had the way change happened was through the owners owners either firing existing management or buttressing them with data gigs and all of a sudden their jobs in the industry for people who previously were not welcome. Explain to me like in terms of satisfying and fulfilling when you look over a landscape and realize you've changed it or contributed to changing it where does it rank in terms of fulfillment. You were talking about people hurling money at you. I'm gathering that. It probably means more in terms of fulfillment to watch baseball change, at least in part because of something you wrote. I don't look at what's happening in think I had much to do with it because there's so many other you know, Billy being had to do what he did. And Bill James had to do what he did. And I was just you know, I wasn't one stop in the story. But I mean, I guess it's still going on in a way. But the revolution is over the revolutionaries have one, but we did it was all happening. It was cool to flip on the television and hear people shouting about my book during baseball games. I thought that was his great. It's some point. I weary of Joe Morgan trashing the book wherever he couldn't have. We just turn off the volume and watch. The games without the announcers. But for a while, it was kind of cool to be part of the conversation a conversation in which I was really an interloper those fun. I remember thinking to myself though, as Joe Morgan was trashing you. And I think he may have even admitted it that he hadn't even read the book that you are basically just that you are basically just attacking things he believed in and he believed in those things because he had the ego to see them. He didn't need your explanations. You know, it was a fairly common refrain the book stupid. I'm not reading it is what they would say. The book doesn't make any sense. I'm not reading it. I mean, it isn't the nature of sports to have honest intellectual engagement. I wasn't expecting it. And they didn't deliver it is there any place where you've written a book because you've talked about some discomforts here. But the reaction became deeply uncomfortable. I guess I'm asking you. What was the most uncomfortable experience you had to endure because of something you've written flash boys because it was. Like moneyball in than it was threatening and established order, and, but then this case the people on who threatening were billionaires and high frequency traders, and who were basically the heart of the financial system. And that was the one case where the people who business was threatened actually generated at great expense, essentially, a hostile political campaign aimed at the book at propaganda campaign. Hiring people to attack the book, and that was the setting because what it really did. Is it gummed up the possibility of change the kind of change it happened after moneyball should have happened after flash boys and the money stopped it from happening. More about that. Explain to me how that happened because I didn't know that part of it that basically you're telling us that the billionaires bought the ability gauges of gotten rigged and rigged in a very subtle way. It leads to billions of dollars being transferred from essentially, you know, middle class American savings into the pockets of rich high frequency traders and those firms and traders spent a lot of money on politicians and on regulators hiring people out of the SEC donating to political campaigns hiring academics to publish work that supposedly debunks my own that kind of thing when you money the water is sufficiently and you're asking politicians to take on rich interests at the same time. They won't do it. 'cause it's a complicated subject. The easier thing to do is stay friendly with the people who give you money for your political campaigns. So just it they were just able to just stop things from changing. Whereas in baseball. Ball. It was much cleaner more open. There wasn't organized assault on the book and the truth is that the people who had money in the end had an interest in embracing the message of the book because it save the money. How did you realize that there was an orchestrated assault on the book? Flash boys came out. I would get. I mean organization was created in Washington. I in response to it. And they were I got sent memo. I don't reporters dug out memos between between that organization and high frequency traders at repaying the organization to trash the book. I mean, he just like if you go back and look at the press around flash boys, you can see it happening and the protagonist of the book the people who created the fair exchange. It's called IFC investors exchange. We're on the receiving end of the same sort of stuff, and they had the resources to find out who is doing things to them. And so they just accumulated files, and it was a professional hit job. It was done in the same way apoliticial would organize an attack of a rival politician. It was it was that it was that kind of thing. What was the worst of the worst of? It was simple. The worst was this. Thing that everybody needs to hear. And this thing that needs to be fixed won't be heard and it won't be fixed. It was like it neutered the power of the book to change the system quickly. What was the worst of it? Because it doesn't sound like you were you had any fear it found. It sounds like you noticed this happening in real time. And we're like, oh, oh, look they're going to be able to know, you know. No people threatened a lawsuit that wasn't actually all that miserable. Unlike the protagonists in my books had physical threats they had to hire security. They were made really uncomfortable as the author you're sort of sort of chicken if the ham and eggs breakfast right near the pig. The pigs all in the chickens kinda interested. I that. I didn't have I I didn't fear for my life or anything like that. I didn't feel that way about it. But it was just like it's not nice waking up in and having yourself trashed in the newspaper for things that you know, are true. It's disturbing to see a very what is very simple story. Once you understand get distorted in ways that make it impossible for the public today. Just Malcolm glad well. You've heard this, quote, I read Louis for the same reason. I watch Tiger Woods. I'll never play like that. But it's good to be reminded every now, and again what genius looks like you might push all that. I don't know. But when Malcolm glad well, a modern day intellectual says that about you, and he is someone who is very good at taking complicated ideas, and making them understandable. You thought what when you heard that? I thought Malcolm has the ability to make people feel more love than they should. And I thought he was lavishing praise on me that I didn't completely deserve. But that was really nice of him. I think it's a better description of him than me. I think he actually does have an almost superpower in an ability to take ideas and make them interesting to people. I think what I'm doing a little bit more old-fashioned. I think I'm taking people making them interesting to people. Do you think he's better at that? Is that what I heard you say it better taking ideas and making him swing on the page. Absolutely far, more of an intellectual than I am. Far more fun to watch play with just an idea. I do things he doesn't do. I mean, I do sustain a narrative in a way. He's not that interested in doing that's an old fashioned. And in some ways less interesting skill. We we've had Adam McKay on our show love his work. Love. How creative is? And so, oh, he's he's really a smart, dude. And then he decides he's going to direct the big short because he picked up your bookie told us at like nine one night and then seven o'clock in the morning. It's still reading it and his wife's walking in and saying what are you doing? How how did you learn because the big short seemed like it was going to be really hard to make a movie about that? In fact, I can't imagine a movie about that until having seen it. It wouldn't have worked to me on a script. You're absolutely right. And I didn't imagine either. And and my reaction when it was I bought the film rights refers purchase was you're insane. I don't know what you're gonna you're gonna do this. But when they said he was going to do it. I knew from Kalugin heights. I thought that's exactly who has a chance because he is a capacity to make everything entertaining. And if you can entertain the audience, they'll follow you places, and that's his trick. Right. He's never boring. The screens just exploding. And you want to kind of be with them and hear what he has to say. And you'll let him break all kinds of rules as he's trying to tell you things 'cause basically trust him as a storyteller. So yes, I'm forever. Grateful to him for bringing that story to such audience. What would you tell us was the most interesting stuff, you uncovered as you gravitated over to Silicon Valley because you do end up in places where there are giant amounts of money. That's true. I wrote one book about Silicon Valley, the new thing, and I guess I published that in maybe two thousand and one, and it was that the heart of that book as a character named Jim Clark who sort of the original internet entrepreneur in some ways, sort embody the spirit of the place in all kinds of ways. My biggest takeaway from Silicon Valley was it's a very very very hard place to write a story about because it's always plowing itself under you know, it's all about displacing, which just happened. And it moves so fast. Nothing has time. Like story doesn't have time to develop you know. There's always a really good first chapter. But then it goes nowhere. It's a frustrating place to try to turn into a narrative. But that was the you know, that was the early internet age, and he'd been there before then he he was you. I could write the story through him because he had this whole prehistory back when the valley was more stable place. I was watching this documentary helped me understand something has someone who comes from that time. Did you see the theranos documentary on HBO did I did? Okay. So just to tell the audience, basically, it's just fraud of the highest order. I don't even know how in fact, you're better with words. And I wanted you. Why don't you explain to the audience? What the hell that's about. Because I don't have the Dick's territory of Silicon Valley language. I have not read the book bad blood on which is I think basically based but female entrepreneurs or flash sort of scientist, Elizabeth Holmes claims to have new Gizmo to draw. Blood from people to make testing, much simpler easier, do it at home, and you find out much more about your whatever's inside of you, then you could before and it's a total con and the cheap persuades hundreds of millions of dollars in lots of famous important people to support her and fools the world for four or five years. The joke of the story is that this environment will tolerate that. And it was just a con from the beginning. She had no ability to do in. Everybody should have known it. And it was probably an open secret. But nobody had an interest in revealing. How how does something like that happen? I mean, you was you understand how that happens. How does it happen? Well, the huge using famous people to make yourself reputable, these people had no the cut of people who she attracted to her had no independent ability to evaluate her technology. And she seemed to be very good at keeping away from her anybody who had an actual -bility to evaluate the technology. People were in love with the idea of it. And in love with the idea of her and they wanted to believe. This guy here is as good as it gets when it comes to writing during my lifetime. You want to subscribe to his new podcast? It's called against the rules. New episodes are available weekly on Aydin's. What is it that? Lord, you to having these conversations on podcast what is against the rules. It's a seven episode. It's narrative is essentially a book in the form of a podcast about the real referees in American life and would caught my interest in the first place was sports referees, and how they're mistakes are ever more scrutinized in ever more likely to generate huge amounts of outrage at the same time that they are being hired and trained and prepared and checked much more professionally they generally got to be more accurate than they ever were. And they're more loathed and treat it and more abuse than they ever were. And that's the first episode has been NBA reps. But then it just goes on. It goes off into examine referees and other walks of American life. Judges regulators so on and so forth. Who make value judgments is basically job it is to enforce the rules, and and sure fair-play and make the world field fair and just how under attack the general thrust of the story is wherever there's a human being who's trying to enforce fairness that human being is under attack. It's interesting. What Lord you to it? Oh bunch of things. But probably the biggest inciting incident was watching the Trump and Bernie Sanders campaigns in two thousand sixteen and a both of them were getting their energy from the argument that the world's now rigged various systems are now rig in that and feelings of unfairness that they were tapping into got me thinking about this subject, generally. That's pretty cool. Michael always appreciate your curiosity. Thank you for lending some time to us. I do appreciate it. Thanks for having me, Dan. 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Talking about the entire 2019 draft class and Hall of Honor inductees

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Talking about the entire 2019 draft class and Hall of Honor inductees

"There you go. Seems to be working prize. You haven't bought your no no eases. We just suggest damn joke. The dog peed on the carpet. I mean is nine weeks old. Since didn't do that. And he gets very upset when I say, no. And then he just come prancing up to me as happy as can be ten seconds later. That's what dogs do. Stupid. All right. He is on a start because I know I'm making us run really late. Just. Touchdown. Will. Hello, welcome to keep sounding podcasts as you are twenty nineteen coast draft edition. This is Brian joined by Brad, and John as always Brad. How're you doing this fine evening? I am doing well. Bryan. Thank you for asking. I'm glad that you care about. My will be I always do. I always do John. How are you doing this evening? Just just lovely. Not stress all stress it all about running late. I mean, I I figured you wouldn't be. I mean, you know, neither Brad nor I have live. So it's fine. We know we all mess. That's the only saving grace for me is knowing that you guys have absolutely nothing better to do than sit conference. Call with. Kids by life has been over for fifteen years. So. I got nothing to do. And my life's been over since it started up a boy Niles Brian right out right out of the gate. That's that's my brand. So anyway, Panthers, you know, had a draft this past week drafts and guy. I was pretty good. Actually, it was not this past week the week for that season. So yeah, the Panthers had a draft. They drafted him guys. It was cool. It was fun. Definitely weren't angry about anything to happen. So god. Brad's needed. I don't know if he's just shouting. Or if he's genuinely nah. No, I think he's just he's probably doing something continue showplace. I just wanna make sure everything's Copacetic. You know, good. Good. Does have just done was rustling dishes in the sink. And I didn't want background noise to in -rupt, the quality of the show, Brian. I appreciate. Well, you kind of ruined it by pointing? You mentioned earlier that you might drop outs. I wanted to make sure that wasn't what happened. So don't think I ever the dropout. No. It doesn't ever the collected hosts as soon as something goes off off script. Just oh my God. What's going on? The middle of the show. I'm sorry that I'm a millennial and I have. Okay. Bryan is basically Ron burgundy. I'm trapped glass case in motion. Anyway, first round pick sixteen overall Brian burns, John give me your take. No, okay. Brad. Give me your take. This. No. All right. Well shit. I think it would take. Yeah. You knew how about you. Give us your take Brian because you're the one that was so excited about this pick. Oh, literally ruined draft night for John. Yes. I was I was pretty excited about Brian burns. He does happen to share my initials. I don't know what that means is far as like why would be so excited about an actual good player at the sixteenth overall pick. But. Yeah. Brian burns defensive end slash outside. Linebacker very fast. Speed rusher seem the guy gets the snap faster than. Really anybody? I've ever seen in Panthers uniform to the honest like off the snap. So I've been pretty excited about the pick. I think he's gonna be a day one starter get tons of snaps. I guess my only concern I think a lot of Panthers fans concerns is how are they going to use him and mitigate the risks as far as like rush defense did not the biggest guy. He's I wouldn't expect him to be able to set the edge against the right tackle left tackle in the NFL day one. But overall, I think it was really pick. Because Carolina needed pass rush on the got arguably the most polished pass rusher in the draft. That's that's might take hashtag my take. Joe? It makes me feel a little better about those concerns which I fully understand the whole like rigidity issue. Brian burns Bruce Irvin. An Christian Miller are all listed as linebacker slash defensive end on the team's roster and all have numbers in the fifties. So I think that points to the team being serious about this whole odd front thing. Just play them at nickel linebacker. Yeah. All season. He's just the next to check Thompson. We wanted a free safety and Brian burns is pretty fast. So. True is true. Brad. What are you that or John? Go ahead continue. I'll just say I'm excited excited because like you said because like. The only pass rush threats. We've ever had have been either interior pass rushers or like, I guess the closest thing we've had the speed Russia. Everybody else's kind of a bull rusher. Type saying it'll be nice to have somebody that could actually no. Have the occasional? Hopefully, like von Miller type pass related blow things up off the snap. And they don't have to like, you know, make a bunch of mess to get there. I agree. He seems like a got like for all the concerns about the rush defense. He's also a guy where he literally blow up a play just with the right speed rush off the outside and just totally destroy it. Faced is college snaps anyway, concern about the rush defense believe it or not because. That I've said dozens of times running the ball is inherently inefficient no matter how bad of a run defense you're playing against or that you have as a defense. There's just too many plays. I go for no yards. So. Teams always have to pass and as long as you stop them when they pass you'll be fine. Brad. What's your take? I like the fact that we took a guy who has versatility. Like, I think that's one thing that, you know, they said all offseason, we're gonna show more unique looks we're gonna show hybrid looks. We're gonna show some three four we're gonna show some four three we're gonna show some three three five we're gonna you know, we're gonna mix it up. And I'm glad that we didn't just take a traditional four three defensive end, you know, and try to replace Julius peppers with rookie because I don't think that's really possible. I'm glad that they took someone that can play outside linebacker that can play deep that's been that could play, you know, anywhere. You wanna put him in as long as he can get to the quarterback and generate pressure than he's going to be affective. And I agree with John. I don't think that defending the run is as important as it has been in the past. I do realize that Ron is still our head coach. And if if burns gives up an eight yard run, he's probably gonna get bench for six games. But I I don't think it's that big of a concern. I think his versatility his speed like you pointed out Brian his ability to just blow up a play with his speed. I think those are more important traits, and I'm I'm actually happy with the pick. I agree and the piggyback off the running things since I know it's gonna be a top conversation, regardless of what John thinks with him in a stupid calculator over there. So the thing about Brian burns. If you look at his college film, they kinda like let him rush from really wherever it wasn't like he was stuck at one position. So in my mind, if you're running a multiple front type defense, you just let Brian burns play the weak side. And I know I brought this up a lot in the slack chat. But I obviously haven't mentioned it at all in the podcast. So when you're playing the weak side is far as defensive end goes, you're far less likely to have the raw the offense run the ball at you. And even they do your your defense still has a bit of an edge because you're going to have, you know, at least equal personnel over there. So in my mind, at least early on if Ron Rivera really wants this to be. Like a successful pick for someone who plays every down. You let it rush off the weak side because he's either going to be able to pursue the strong side runs or they're gonna run counters right at him, which he might be able to blow up. Before it even gets off the ground is usually when you run a counter, you have a trapping guard or a trapping center or something like that who has to go get the guy first or it's a passing play. And he's going he's doing what he does. Well, which is rush the passer, or it could even be a bootleg if that's something where burns could grow into that. And get after the quarterback before they can even turn around and throw like he's the kind of player where he can wreck play just because of how fast athletic and. Just as polish the pass rusher as he is. And he's only getting better in the NFL. Another thing too is with this multiple front something that I don't think has been brought up enough. But I don't really know what it's called because I'm not I'm I'm, unfortunately, not the kind of film Baru that there are out there where they know like every kind of personnel name, but those plays where you have pass rushers lining up and like a standup rush technique on the inside over like a guard or a center, I think he could be effective with that as well. And that's where I see his value as somebody was just like you move them all over the formation find the weak spot. Let him just get after the quarterback. That's that's what excites me the most about this guy. Yeah. So yeah. Brian burns highly athletic pass rusher. Definitely molds into. NFL has going as far as a defenses. Go. Shifting to the second round. So one thing that people should know is that Greg little was allegedly on the Panthers rate art first pick. They got Brian burns. They've done. They traded up in the second round to go. Now. Greg little offense tackle, most likely left tackle. So when we were sitting there doing the draft talk as it happened because we literally like had to jump on. And evaluate the pick as happened because we weren't expecting it on fast. There were two things happened one. We were happy the Panthers Greg picks. Greg little to we were really mad about what they gave up which was the seventy seventh. Overall, pick to go up and get him. So Brad, I'll start with you. Give me your breakdown on that. On the actual picker the trade both. Okay. I love the pick. I think that protecting Cam Newton is the most important thing that we had to accomplish. Because if you watched the Carolina Panthers last year you saw what happened after camp got hurt. And how bad they were so preventing that from happening again is paramount. And mad. Keith say the dog. Go carry on meeting the headset till they come down. Okay. Anyway, I think that drafting a left tackle was arguably more of oppressing the than drafting a defensive in. So I'm glad that Greg little was still there in the second round. I'm not crazy about the trade. I get it that Marty thinks he got a franchise left tackle. And if he did in five years if if Greg little is, Jordan, gross two point. Oh in five years, I won't care that he dried, hey, traded the the number seventy seven pick to go up and get him. But if he's not very good, and Marty is wrong than this trade is going to look bad because we could have picked a nother player at another position of need at seventy seven, and it really it's too early to tell whether or not it was a good trade or not because we don't know how good or how bad Greg little is going to be. But if he's as good as Morny thinks he's gonna be than like, I said a couple years we're not gonna care that he made the trade because we'll have a a. Franchise left tackle. I agree with that. I never liked trading up because you're basically trading into lottery tickets for one lottery ticket in the odds, just aren't good. But like, you said that the process is never good in my opinion. But the results can turn out. Okay. In this case because it is a huge need for us. And we definitely filled that need with Greg little and other. He's got his wards because also have been available where he was. But. You rarely see someone who is pretty much universally thought to be left tackle our franchise left tackle, but central available at that spot normally all the tackles taken they're supposed to be guards or right tackles in your lucky if they turn out to be a left tackle. So getting a guy that's naturally fits there is should be a steal. If everything goes as it's supposed to. So one thing I want to mention. That I gotta give her props for. I know that's kind of blasphemy here. But. So for how long have we been talking about Panthers need to protect Newton. They need to give them more offense lineman, the need to surround him with people who can keep them, upright helpful. I feel like it's been half a decade at least Hamish the whole time. He's been here after Jordan grocery tired. Yeah. Four thome. We want to be more specific. I know the Panthers of that needs at pass rush. And I know the Panthers bad need it safety. I've been talking about nauseatingly throughout the off season. But over the last few years the Panthers of surrounded Cam Newton with more weapons they spent several high draft picks on weapons in this year, mardi Herni feels like he went kind of all out on protecting Cam Newton on the frontlines. I mean like they went and got the highest rated center in free agency in that Paradis. Exactly. Yes. Catch. I walked by right? When he was begging for food. They found a way to re-sign Daryl Williams, which was unpopular at the time. But then they went and got Greg little who theoretically is the left tackle the futures. They made three different moves on the offensive line. That were big like Daryl Williams could potentially be the starting left guard. What if not he still your backup detailer moten? So if something happens to Greg little Taylor Moton, you could still theoretically shift the left tackle Dera William steps in. Obviously if something happens to Taylor Moton Dera William steps in. And if somebody's better than Dera Williams left guard and big at hurt Daryl William steps in. So they actually have like a solid contingency plan for once on the offensive line where we're not banking on Michael oher to start at left tackle. And then putting Mike remers left tackle where he was like a mediocre, right tackle. So I do have to applaud that like they really. When they said, they they're gonna protect Cam Newton. They went all in on it in my opinion with this draft and this free agency class and. It could potentially pay real dividends. Cause the last time that Cam had often line that was dependable that went to the Super Bowl. They said this is probably the first time we've ever had an offense of line where it felt like we could handle an injury at any position and not have a catastrophic failure on the line. Exactly. And even center, they still got Larson. They still got Greg. Like, it's not like everything is lost. If one player goes down. Exactly. So. That's I mean hate mardi hernias you will. But if he he honed in on Greg little that was his guy that he wanted to walk away from the strap with based on what we've heard. I can't fault him for it. So same. Yep. Hello. I'm Spencer hall from Espy nation. And I wanna tell you about my new show. It seemed smart. It seems mart as a show about people doing things that for some reason or another seem smart at the time. 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Where Panthers fans were freaking the fuck out because they they might take them enough first round of the graph. So Jon, give me your take on that taking will Greer with that third around competently selection. So it's pretty funny because Brad, and I got I didn't care going into the draft about what we did like in terms of drafting will Greer whatever by the time. We got to that hundred pick Brad. And I are both actively rooting for the fantasy pick him just because we're just. The man. Yeah. Aside from that though, I do like the pick because. Everything. Objective. And I know this is using my calculator again. But like all these plots pro football focus, and he's this article that linked earlier today from Espy nation that has these different dance stats to measure quarterbacks in how they translate the NFL will Greer is like borderline first round prospect based on objective analysis. I've got him into the third round like guys like. If if you take out like what you see based on, you know, their size into their coaches and with their mechanics like like him in Daniel Jones should have been drafted opposite spots. I think we got a valley. There's great value there. Whether or not we need it is obviously a for debate. But is never a bad thing to have a good backup quarterbacks that costs like eight hundred thousand dollars a year. I kind of feel like John was listening when we were talking when he wasn't Emma chat. Because Brad, and I were talking about the whole Daniel Jones will Greer thing. Radd. Go ahead. Why don't you share what you shared with me? Yeah. I mean, basically, I'm the same thing. I think will Greer. Has a chance to be one of the better quarterbacks of this draft class if he's needed to play and like. You know, Bill Parcells had a rule like there were seven commandments quote unquote that quarterback had to. Meet and if they met them than they were draftable, and I'm trying to find them. Okay. Three years as a starter is a senior. Did he graduate? Did he start thirty games? Did he win twenty three games was as touchdown to interception ratio at least two to one. And did he have a completion percentage over sixty? Will Greer had four of those seven, and he would have had at least six if he didn't get busted for PD's at Florida. And I know you're saying now while he took PD's, he's a scumbag. But that's beside the point. He only started slightly over two years. So he would have started for three years if you didn't get suspended from Florida. He was a senior he graduated. He only started twenty seven games that thirty. He lost more than three games in that suspension. He did not win twenty three games. There's no way to know. If they would have won those games are not. But his touchdown to interception ratio was eighty one to twenty three and its completion percentage was sixty five point seven. Greer meets the good quote unquote criteria of Bill Parcells evaluation of quarterback, and he doesn't have the strongest arm, but he has an accurate arm and you can scheme around accuracy. You don't have to throw it thirty yards down the field every play bass acccess cesspool as we've seen, you know, the west coast offense thing like you can scheme around that. So if in the event Cam gets hurt, I think we are possibly. Better off than the giants are with drafting Daniel Jones at number six overall. I think that the best case scenario is that we never see will Greer play because that means Cam stays healthy. And he's just are Derek Anderson where he's the backup quarterback for the next eight years and. Is that worth than the one hundred pick in the draft some people probably don't think so I personally do like it was a cop pick. I know that that football fans love picks. And I think their potential hall of famers. But he's essentially like the first pick in the fourth round, basically. And I think it's a tremendous value. I think will Greer should have been taken in the second round or potentially. Maybe even in the first round. So aside from me liking, the chaos that is a result of Greer being taken. I'm actually glad we made the pick. Because I think he's a good quarterback. And I think that if we need him I would much rather have will Greer than Taylor heineke or Kyle out? I'm honestly gonna surprise. Mocked to the patriots a lot. And I feel that would have been a perfect fit. I'm surprised they didn't draft him to like I expected him to be gone before one hundred I expected Bella check to draft him in the third round. The other thing. He's a great deep ball Baltar. So the Armstrong doesn't a problem in terms of pushing the ball down the field where the arm strength really comes into play is like being able to force the ball on a tight windows, but your offense. If you're doing good job shouldn't be overly reliant on your quarterback Threadneedle through tight windows down the field. And one thing I wanna touch on too. So I don't take pro football focus as gospel. But I was listening to a bit of one of their podcasts earlier today, and it was about specifically like quarterbacks in the NFL draft. So the way that they were talking about it was in the first round or even like the early first round you take the quarterbacks where they are ready. Like, you have an argument for why they are ready to start for you right now where in the maybe like really late first round too early second round. That's when you take the players you say, this is why they could be a franchise quarterback. But we need to work on that. And. They talked about guys like Andy Dalton or guys like Gino Smith where they had like the physical attributes to do what you would want out of a franchise quarterback. And they said Daniel Jones seemed like one of those guys where he should go there. If you really believe them, and obviously, we all know, Dave Gettleman. He's a stubborn bastard, but. What they mentioned was that they thought that will Grier should go in a place like that as a second tier quarterbacks. The Panthers got a second tier quarterback with a third tier pick. So as far as value goes that was an excellent pick of the Carolina Panthers. Granted they are not the patriots. They are not one of those teams that goes to the playoffs every single year where they can necessarily afford spend high draft capital on a quarterback. But. They also are were essentially fucked whenever can Newton couldn't play. So investing in a high value quarterback. I've been saying this for months now that I felt that they should have done that. And. Maybe where they do that. And hopefully as Brad said he never plays. But. He's the kind of quarterback where he has the skill set where you can potentially bring in the pieces around him, maybe even the coaching and have them be successful. So to spend essentially a early fourth round pick because it was a third round compasses worry pick. I do get it. I do. So they've locked in their their backup quarterback situation for at least the next four years. So the pick does make sense it does because quarterback is the most important position on NFL football team. So spending some draft capital. Get one rather than banking on these guys. Keep picking up off waivers. Kyle Alan Taylor Reinecke. Okay. I love that. I do. I really do the other thing. The the thing that everybody wanted. Instead, it was a safety. Because everybody there's somebody say he's on the board. All these names that people throw out there, all like, I believe we pass on this guy, or that guy will gear this is the last time we're ever going to hear their names. Probably theoretically in most like in most cases, like if you go back to old CS our draft threads and posts Raffray actual desert. So many names in there were just like I can't believe we pass on this guy. And I just never been heard from again everybody forgets every year. How rare it is to find good players that late. We didn't miss at read or Troy, Paula Malu or Charles Woodson or Ronnie Lott or those type. We didn't lose that by taking wheel Greer on. We lost Colin Jones, Rashawn golden like, Shawn. Golden was drafted into third round last year. And you all hate him. That's that's funny. That's the kind of guy. We we missed out on. I. There's obviously exceptions. I'm not robbing him that name. I don't care what you say. Or exceptions every rule. There are sessions generates Eddie Jack's second round pick. But back and looked at like five or six years worth of drafts at safeties taken at or near pick one hundred and they were like two stars out of like fifteen or sixteen guys. And granted one of them was there's trae Boston Eddie Jackson and Jackson is obviously mired outlive where Kevin buyer drafted third around. Before after pick one hundred. I couldn't tell you. But those obviously the the exceptions he was the sixty fourth picks the first pick of. A little different. Around. The only two names that we possibly will regret are Chauncey Gardiner Johnson was taken at one zero five two the saints. That's going to hurt more than the other one because he went to the saints and Amani Hooker went to the titans at one sixteen. So we actually passed on him twice because we could have taken him with our next pick at one fifteen and we still didn't do it. Yeah. But I'm saying like the odds are like those guys as good as all are that they're going to be trae Boston like that's probably their ceiling, and I would rather secure the quarterback room than draft. Trae boston. Yeah. That's just me get assigned trae Boston could just sign try Boston. And there there's no reason to believe we won't because as of the today that we're recording this and absolutely today with you listening to it teams can now sign players without them affecting the come the count pick formula. So we can still give that seventh round pick for losing Devin funchess like we're not going to lose that person less than a month. They're gonna have a lot of cat rolling into. So they can on June the second we're gonna have we're gonna have seven point two five million dollars worth of cap space. And we might not even. Do it. Then we might wait until training camp starts and teams. Start cutting the rosters down. Like, we might Ron might be looking at week one against the Rams as almost a lost cause and wait until week to when no money is guaranteed, and we can we can sign any free agent that we want. And then if it doesn't work out we can cut them with no cap penalty. Yeah. And like like we said if it was really that easy to find starting caliber talent in the third round. We should be fine. Because we have a third round pick Shawn golden is ready to take over that role. Yes. So really like, that's that's what I don't understand. And that's another thing give Rashawn golden at least another year. Before you declare his career over like, I don't I don't not every rookie that gets drafted and gets thrown into action is a Pro Bowl or like some of these guys take time. I I have one thing to say before we segue into our next pick. But I personally don't write off respond golden as a pick. I just don't think he's a France. Tasty. I agree with that. I don't he's a free safety. But problem, well, I worry as our safeties to at all he just there's two safeties. My problem is that if you put Eric Reed next to a guy like Rashawn, golden. They have a similar skill set. The Panthers are going to get killed. That's what I'm worried about will enroll in mind though, with drafting Brian burns and Christian Miller who were gonna talk about next. Oh, you know, we we don't have to worry about it. Because the pass rush will get to the quarterback. I agree with you though you. Can't put Rashawn golden and Eric read on the field together because that drew Brees will throw for seven hundred yards. Theme routes all day on them say it was Mike Adams and era though. So clearly the coaching staff has no qualms of putting too. Doesn't care at least Mike Adams of fucking veteran safety. Not a guy barely played in his rookie year is a very veteran safety very veterans say he was like eighty nine years or and safety, but speaking of Christian Miller, so the Panthers use their fourth round pick on edge rusher from Alabama Christian Miller who is actually pretty well rated as a pass rusher by PF and Mari hernia. Specifically said we were surprised he was still here. So the Panthers walked away from this draft with potentially to productive edge rusher is I mean Miller's obviously more of a wildcard than Brian burns. But the guy was productive when he actually got a chance to play his issue is that he didn't play as often he had some injury issues in college. So Jon give me your opinions on it. Chris Miller edge like we talked about earlier. PF is actually the gospel Perec's only if you agree with. Yeah. It's it's only useful if it reinforces your preconceived opinion. Anyway, they had I think it was the head him as their second most efficient pass rusher in SEC behind only Josh Allen. Who have it was the seventh pick? So I and that's one of those. I don't really pay too much attention to their grades because it seems super subjective. But when they have their stats like snaps per pressure. I'm a little more inclined to give creates those. And I said he was the second most frequent quarterback pressure in SE. So to me that means he's got talent. Obviously, he's boosted by the the rest of Alabama front, but you don't just luck your way into eight and a half Saxon SEC from what I gathered to add on that was that Christian Miller was very hot and cold in where like he was either borderline dominant on the edge or getting pancaked to the ground. So that's that's where I see why he was a fourth round pick because you pick fourth round picks on for where they win not where they lose. Yeah. You take him at in the fourth round at one hundred fifteenth overall hoping that you can get more juice out of the lemon and hope that you can put him in situations where he can win like third and twenty five and you just run them sour. Yeah. But. Lemonade Jesus Christ Brian. Okay. Well, let me rephrase it God. Damnit get juice out of the orange is that better. Or would you prefer me to say grapefruit or apple or pear or what kind of fucking juice? You want hotdog hotdogs use? Hot dog juice to watch sell apparently, limp biscuit album. But anyway, you put him in there and hope that he can get to the quarterback on third and long and get his confidence up, and you can you can get something out of it. And if it doesn't work out, then you know, you just wasted the the hundred fifteenth pick instead of the I don't know forty seventh pick or whatever. Agreed. But if he doesn't work out, then we're going to hear nonstop Khuda drifted safety from the CS are commentariat. So hopefully, pans out. Wow. To real word. Look it up to the word. So in my mind, it's. I guess to beat to put the optimistic spin on it is you have Brian burns guy who's gonna lineup over the place. Rush off the edge and Christian Miller can kinda spell him or even play opposite him on like three four down. So. I think this is a good pig. I'm yeah. Full disclosure. It was my favorite pick that we made because the value meets the demand. Like, I was glad to see that we took to ED's rushers. Plus, it's not like Chris Miller played against bunch of scrubs when he played for Alabama too. So. I could theoretically see him coming in like actually being somewhat productive as a rookie. So yeah, I think you'll get probably five over under on sax is probably five. I mean if you've got five sacks successful fourth round pick. Yeah. I would say four and a half sacks is probably over under for his rookie year. Because I think we're gonna we're gonna see a lot of him. Only don't have any better options. So no, we don't have very many better options. Like, we have Brian burns Christian Miller, Bruce Irvin, FAO badeah Markey's Hanes Mario Addison. That's it. He forgot about Brian Cox, excuse me. And Brian Cox. I'm sorry that's seven and west horrid relief probably signed sometime between now and training camp. Because he always does could never leave out of Brian never leave Bryan out of the quays. I'm Todd Vander. The host of primetime a new show from box dot com. This season. 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And we all fucking called that didn't we Jordan's specifically? But the fact that they pick a running back, and though it's a funny joke Panthers fans, it's understandable considering that Christian McCaffrey is backed up by Cameron Artis Payne in God knows who else right now. Also, reg bonafide has the guy that he is going to be a superstar cornerback wide receiver and running back. My bad. Have you watched highlights? Jordan scarlet no, I have not I have he's he's punisher their lending is he's actually a really good running back. And the reason he was available in the fifth round is because he has some off field troubles. His his highlights are lots of people bouncing off of him. Hint dragging tacklers for extra yards. He's basically Jonathan Stewart. Yes. No, no. That's that's much. Obviously to that. I mean hit a poor, man. Yeah. College Jordan scarlet is like NFL, Jon Stewart. If you know what I mean? Relatives? Now, this is the thing. He's a great straight line runner pretty decent one cut guy. But from what I gathered from what I watched him. He needs some work as far as like his vision. And he was somebody where he would try to cut back and just get blasted in the backfield to like seems like the kinda guy where it's like. Okay. You wrote that whole, and that's where going like and he'll do fine. But if you expect him to do like, the Christian McCaffrey, like find the whole find the soft spot go through at least at this point is career. He could learn I'm not saying can. But if you expect him to do that he's going to not be good. But he's basically third in one you put in there because he can bulldoze through for one yard. I mean, the guy benched four hundred and twenty five pounds as a running back, and he weighs like two hundred fifty pounds or something like that. So yeah, he's if you just say, hey, we need one yard run straight at that depends of line. I would be very compensating get that yard. So he's hopefully is the second goal from the one that we send in. Into run straight at the defensive line. So Christian McCaffrey and Cam Newton don't have to do it. Like, honestly, my comparison to him would be like a lighter. Mike tolbert. He plays very similar to Leonard fournette. Kind of. I mean, Leonard fournette still had. Vision. I guess like just the NFL your wallet. I don't know like minute Fornet at least in the NFL. I didn't pay much system in college. But under on the NFL is very much a take the ball run as fast as you can where you're supposed to go in this bulldoze people you fall down. He basically that same guy in college. The thing was the vote is he looked like a grown man playing with children in common much bigger and stronger than everybody else and faster like and fast. Like, he feels Bornet is like just a superior athlete to most people who take NFL field where he's like, really. The I I actually think that Derrick Henry is a better comparison for scarlet. But I think Henry is a better overall running back as far as like playing position. But I think Carolina's says, hey, we're gonna run power you run at that. Tackle I think he'll be fun. Or give them time to learn. This was the only pick of the whole draft that we made that I really didn't understand. Like, I just I didn't get it. All because of the off field stuff mostly because we've never really drafted a guy with multiple violations before. And I mean, it's not this is going to sound worse than I mean it, but it's not it's not domestic violence like he didn't kick a girl girlfriend or beat her up or you know, he's not a child abuser. He's not you know, there's a lot of things that are way worse than what he did. But what he did was really serious. You know, and I was surprised that we still drafted him knowing that I think we could have picked him up as an undrafted free agent. But at that point fifth round picks your base Olympic. Yeah. You're you're basically picking the drafted free agents you want and. I was just gonna say I read his draft grow file, and he has like the NFL profile of of star of like an actual NFL caliber running back. So I do I don't hate. I don't hate the player. Like if the game, I just don't like the the off field stuff, and I hope he's grown up and matured, and I'm not I'm not gonna hold his past against him. You know, because it's not fair. I just didn't. I didn't understand that pick when they made it like it just it didn't seem like a a Carolina Panthers pick. Right. I agree. And plus we haven't really had a chance to get a good look at Cameron Artis Payne and. I mean, I thought that's what Ron wanted to do. And it didn't make much sense. We joke about that. But we legitimately signed him to a one year contract. Why did we do that? And why do we draft to a running back when we we already have Cameron Artis Payne? And I know it's one year versus four years and the money's different. But it just didn't seem like a good use of resources to me. Plus we have future hall of Famer Reggie bonafide on the roster. Exactly that good. Good. Before vont sometime hindsight makes us make people really stupid. I'm looking at NFL are for nets combine stuff. Just to compare them to scarlet bottom line hit says that a Fornet doesn't have the wiggle to make defenders miss and his vision can be iffy. And that's two of the more important traits. Running back, aren't they? Yeah. But it's still still supposed to be an all pro. So that's why I got that for net. Comparison frumpy has scarlet kind of the same way. I don't think I just think that Scarlets little more raw as far as like a running back prospect compared to four net was plus four that drafted like he shouldn't have been drafted fourth by the Jaguars for also benefited from being playing LSU in LSU was really good. And they had like he was running through like highway lanes and is being faster than everybody. Yeah. I mean in he got he was brought back down to earth when he got into the NFL with better competition like NFL defensive linemen and linebackers are better faster stronger in all that than college guys are, and he just you know, he was just bigger faster and better than the guys was playing against villa shoe. And they just he's not in the NFL. And that's not saying he's bad. He's pretty bad. But he. I'm not I know, but I'm not saying that that's your opinion. I don't think he's I don't think he's terrible. I don't think he's worth the number four overall pick. I think he's a decent starter. But I think the Jaguars are going to regret taking him when they did. He's a better athlete than most running backs. But he wasn't worth for the overall pick that fair. All yeah. The only two drills for athletics. We're spending way too much time talking about a fifth round pick Linda Fornet Ryan the forty in four or five one and Scarlett at it in four four seven an linen for it had a twenty eight and a half inch vertical. Leap in scarlet had a thirty inch vertical. Leap. So we basically drafted Leonard for net a year later four rounds later behind Harney. Yes. Two years drive into your later or two years later. Yeah. Arounds light. What's his height and weight six feet? He he's very heavy. Very heavy. But I don't think he'd been tresses foreign sixty five pounds. So. Yeah. So what a lot of weight read a lot of weight like, that's that's car love, plus Christian, McCaffrey. Or half of Christian McCaffrey McCaffrey's onto its to Christian McCaffrey is to Christian McCaffrey McCaffrey on each end of the bar and Jordan scarlet will lift him. Yeah. So why don't we just lump the last two draft picks in because honestly, they're probably not even know we are gonna give Dennis daily respect. He deserves from a high institution of learning and athletics. I forgot he went South Carolina. Yeah. L at Brad take that. 'cause I don't really know anything about rod. You can you can you can take your your solo on this one. Okay. Real talk. I'm not gonna I'm not gonna give any hyperbole. I'm going to be real probably guard. He played tackle at South Carolina. He probably should be a left guard. And in my opinion. We basically drafted a combination of a menial Tolo, and Chris Scott, and Chris Clark and Marshall Newhouse those guys that we've had on the roster forever. That have just been put him in there. If somebody gets hurt for a couple of plays, but he can play left tackle left guard right guard, right? Tackle for like a drive. But I would not want him to be the guy that is starting at left tackle for a whole year or six games or whatever. Because then we're probably screwed, but there's some potential there. He was pretty good at South Carolina. I mean. It's kinda hard to judge offense. If player South Carolina because they're coached by Wilma's champ. You know, but unless the punter, but I think that daily will be that guy that is the backup. Like, this makes it where we don't have to bring mini total back. And I think if I. We actually gave daily. I mean, he's number. So I think we might finally be out of the Amini stilleto Lou era. And you know, he's he's good enough to make the roster. He's good enough to be, you know, Daryl Williams are Taylor Moton. Whoever wins the starting left guard job. He's good enough to be their backup. And he's good enough to where if one of them needs a day a game off he's good enough to sub N and play. But he's not good enough to depend on for Cam Newton's wellbeing. And I like the pick. I think it's a good value. I'm surprised he was still there at two hundred twelve overall. So I mean, Homer ISM aside. It's one of the better values that we got. All three of the numbers. That means he'll to lose warrant. Carolina are currently taken. Ron can fix that problem. One of those guys that imperatives has sixty one Dennis daily got sixty five in the Dylan, Gordon, got sixty six on the I'm sorry. Dylan Gordon year out. Give them like sixty eight or something to staff give him a new number for every time. He's retired. Jordan gross is number six to nine AM. Now table Tyler Larsen sixty nine. Oh, that's right. Nice. Nice. So last pick Terry God went out of Georgia seems like at best he will contribute as kick returner. But basically, yeah as weird X Y receiver kick returner as weird is going to sound Carolina's actually kinda stack wide receiver. So I don't even know why they drafted wide receiver with the season. He's Demere birds replacement. But they already have that in a you know, like most like two of the three receivers on their roster. I mean, honestly, I'm think we took him because we didn't really have any reason to take anybody with that pick because we got it for trading down with Denver to get daily. And you know, it's just a matter of okay. There's nobody else really. 'cause I'm looking at the players that were drafted after him, and none of the name standard. I mean, it's the bottom of the seventh round. None of these names, standout, right? And even the UDF as like we only signed four because of all the af signings that we made we only UDF as so I mean, why not throw a late seventh round number two hundred thirty seven overall pick at a wide receiver that can probably return kicks. And even if he only returns kick, so you know, DJ more doesn't have to do it or Curtis. Samuel doesn't have to do. It. That's worth the seventh round pick. John would Sam all Chris all Curtis. Samuel is good for is returning kicks. So I don't know what you're gonna never said that. Out. I said that at that point. You're not really driving based on what you have on your team, or what you need you just kind of like we like this guy will draft him. As would obviously obviously I wasn't making. I wasn't making the point that he was gonna make the team my favorite thing about it is Ron said after the pick. He said, well, he returned fifty percent of his kickoff returns. And that's great unto you realize. It was only two he said that facetiously that didn't like, yeah. He said it jokingly, but it's just it's funny that he said that now you wanna be big on analytics Ron fifty percent of his kick returns were for touchdowns. I have a feeling that Ron Rivera has a has a career as a comedian. Once it gets fired. Out. He he'd be great. So to some of the draft. I thought this is really funny so NFL dot com. Tweeted out like draft grades, but to make people watch they only tweet it out half the team's draft rates. So they like, here's the NFC south grades, and it gave the buccaneers pandas grades and the falcons and scientists the little like emoji with his rubbing his chin. They gave the Panthers a Tampa Bay the bucks day minus and to me that says that they think that the saints in the falcons. The saints draft. Anyone they is feels like they traded away every pick. They had the Jeff. They drafted a guy all the Panthers fans wanted. Yeah. Makes even happier because Panthers fan suck. But but the reason I say that is because like for the NFC east it has Washington with a and the eagles with a Emmett has a question Mark for the giants Cowboys. So to me, it's like there's no way they're giving away. The giants. Great. So I think that but they gave us a so for whatever that's worth the saints drafted Eric McCoy at forty eight. They tried to actually a good thing. That was a good pick. They had to because what's his name retired under MAC longer retired. They drafted Chauncey garner Johnson in the fourth round. A lot of people. They drafted saquon Hampton who that is. I don't either he's. From rutgers. They drafted ally. Mac, which is one of the coolest names. They drafted Kagan Ellis. And that's it. Draft saints. That's. When you straight away our future first round picks for developmental pass rushers. It's amazing. I can't hate on them too much though because they did fill the biggest they had was unders retirement. They they found that. Peter radically, theoretically. What about what is this about airs on cardinals? God, dammit. I hate auto video. Who never created the auto play video at full volume should be strung out and shot in the town square. Because whoever you are you're a fucking asshole Arnold. See the town where? You would do it for. The hall honor. Yeah, let's do that for a little bit. So we haven't even talked about. Everybody. Neil Patel editor and chief of the verge and this is the verge cast. 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We also do talk about college football every now and then like, mascot fights announcers fleeing the early and unfashionable pants that coaches where now if you want to college football exactly as seriously as it should be taken. Subscribe for free on apple podcasts or in your favorite podcast app. The Panthers finally added to their hall of honor. This past week. And I am super happy about that. Because Sam mills was literally the only person in their hall of honor for how many fucking years is this. It was the only person only player excuse me. But might on the first general manager and president was the other person hit a hold on it with two people on on. Along with the PS L owners blow PS L owners, but it's more like a hall closet of honor like. Sorry. Closet honor the closet voter. So they added Jake de Lome quarterback, Jordan gross, offenses tackle Wesley walls tight end. And for the grand finale wide receiver speed, Steve Smith senior. Which all of these were very deserving. I think. Wesley walls being the first great tight end. Carolina really had Jordan gross being those consistent often often to tackle. They've had dick took him to Super Bowl. Obviously. Steve Smith, Steve Smith's. He still classic. So. They went from from one to five and a matter of dates as far as players go makes more sense to call a hall of honor. When there's actually people in it. And also what's understand why it was even a thing? If it's been since nineteen ninety seven since we've added anybody to hold on her. It's like. Why do we have it? Doesn't our chat. I don't know if JR was a bad owner, and we just didn't realize it because we didn't know any better or take tempers just really good. But it's like Jerry brought the team to North Carolina news dislike here guys football team. And he just kinda sat back ended nothing for the rest of his time is owner. Yeah. I tweeted in apart other the part where he had to fight to not pay players money. Yeah. I tweeted this when the hall of otter amounts confer made, it seems like David Tepper is taking every dumb ass hill that Jerry Richardson would die on is just taking a massive shit on it. I am a huge fan of that. Because as much as people wanna give Jerry Richardson credit for bringing eighteen to Carolina, he had some really fucking dumb ass hills that he died on and David Packer is just not being like that. Which is super refreshing. It's visited. Phone fact, about the hall of honor John mentioned briefly a second ago for those of you who don't know this Sam mills was actually put in the hall of honor before the keep pounding speech like seven years before. So that's not why he's in Jerry Richardson, just thought he was a inspirational Nuff player that he belonged in there. Which makes it sound. Like, it's just the Jay Richardson. Like, these are my best friends, basically. Yeah. All of honor. But it's honestly strange that we've been a franchise for twenty five years now. And I mean guys like Wesley walls were never included. Like, you know, I understand why he didn't put guys like Jordan grows 'cause it hasn't been that long are Steve Smith or even which we'll get to this in a minute, Julius peppers. Like, I understand that. But, you know, Wesley walls hasn't been here for what fifteen years like he he left in the early two thousand or even the nineties like it's been forever. And it just it doesn't it doesn't make any sense. Why jailer was so against adding to something that he created? You probably forgot it was there. Probably. Walls last season. Here was in two thousand two. See JR hat JR was very concerned with the hall of honor. And then he remembered jeans day, many forgot so. So. Boy, who do you guys should be the next wave of people. Okay. Before we do that David Tepper said today that the re the requirements to get in. You have to have been retired for at least two years, and you have to have made a notable accomplishment achievement whatever to the Panthers. Like, I don't know if it's unsaid rule. But I think there's an like you have had to have been here for a couple of years to like they're not gonna let Bruce Arvin in the hall of honor. If he gets twenty sacks this year and he doesn't play but he only plays one year. Brenton Bersin will be eligible. Yeah. But you have to have been retired for two years because he said he wants to eliminate the possibility of somebody retiring getting in the hall of honor. And then unretire ring so peppers will not go in until twenty twenty one unless he retires and comes back, then it'll be pushed back further. But so we can't say Julius peppers next year because he's ineligible. I would say Chris gamble in Mike Minter are too. I don't think I don't think Chris gamble deserves. It really same. Yeah. Has like no accolades. Yeah. He was just. This is sad. But he's one of the best corners we've ever had. But he wasn't that great. Like, he just he didn't stand out. I mean, he wasn't bad. I'm not saying he was a bad player. He was a good player. But he didn't do anything. Like he didn't. He's a very a very very good corner. But he has zero Pro Bowl zero all pros. He has. He didn't win a Super Bowl. He didn't like he didn't like have a Ricky manning game. Where he's the reason we went to a Super Bowl. Okay. By those things. He doesn't stand out in any way. Here are his career highlights awards two thousand two national championship which is college and co in of see interception leader in two thousand four. So I agree. He didn't win the Super Bowl when I agree. He didn't have a Ricky manning junior game. But all pro and Pro Bowl. Are you kidding me? That's not his that has nothing to do with his his performance, especially pro like come on. But also. He was the he has the most interceptions ever in Carolina history. I'm not saying he won't get in. I mean, I think he will. But I don't think he should be on the list of the shortlist of like five to eight people who should be in within the next three years. Like, he's the kind of guy you put in ten years from now when you have two guys, but you wanna class three. So you call Chris gamble. I don't think he deserves it right now. I would I if people David only remember who he is into nears goes gamble. No offense. Chris gamble. I loved you. When you were here. I just don't think you are hall of honor. I think you're hall of good, but not hall of honor. Yeah. I feel that that's reserved for like Thomas Davis. And. Yeah. And because I don't want us to run into the the the the over correction problem. Why I don't want us to start putting guys in just to do it. Like, they have to deserve it. And I don't think Chris gamble does. One name. I believe should be an next year is John Casey. And I honestly believe he should've went in this year over Jack Lome. Green because he was the original panther. He has the franchise record for most all the kicking stuff. And I unless somebody's past him. He has the franchise record for most points. The only person to be Cam Newton. And that doesn't count passing touchdown. So now, he's gonna have your I'm gonna sit around for a long time. Yeah. So I mean, it should have been Casey gross, walls, and smitty like that should have been the first floor. I think. I John Casey's definitely on the shortlist for the next one. I'll know who else. I saw like Mike Rucker got. Some some love in that like in people's discussions, which I think he's in that same classes Christie fan favorite was very good for us. But like he had to double digits axes. Not why not. He's good. You know? But it depends again, I guess it depends on how procedures they want the hall of honor to be. Yeah. Now, if they want it to be like the Basketball Hall of fame by all means put him in there. But if they wanted to legitimate the elite of the elite than. If it's like a history of the Carolina Panthers thing then. Yeah. Like, I'm all for Micron. Chris gamble in them getting in there. But if you're trying to make this like the best of the best like these are all time greats team history. Like, it's one of those things where Ed where you know, football still sport in fifty years old. Can you story of the Carolina Panthers and leave his name out? But it's like a not then he deserves to be in. If he doesn't it's real bet last night, like if Ila really bad if we have like, Luke Keithly and Thomas Davis, and like, maybe even Jon Beason or somebody as a linebacker, and then like, you know, dozens of dozens, but several players would that caliber of career at like, a defensive end or something. And then you look back to like two thousand nineteen like why wasn't Mike Rucker Mike Rucker in there when we have like five defensive ends at all time greats. It's one of those things. So Jonathan Stewart definitely belongs. I would think he'll probably get in next year. What about no because he just retired? So he'll get with Julius peppers route to yours. Yeah. What about the Angela Williams? No. He's too salty. I would agree the Angelilli. I think has a better case Johnson Stewart though on the field. Yes. But I believe that the trajectory of those guys is gonna make that decision. Get flipped because John are the Angela Williams has been a cry baby ever since he left. He's also not the all time rusher for Carolina, but Jonah service here longer like Jonathan Stewart got that by volume. Just saying I think might mentor should get in. I think he'll probably get in next year. And I also think that Michael Bates should get in. But. Michael Bates, Michael Bates is on that people are spies about Wesley walls. Could like we forget how good he was. There are six players that have had that have made five pro bowls at the Panthers. And Michael Bates is one of them along with Ryan Kalil, Luke Keithly, Wesley walls, and Julius peppers all six of those again. Yeah. It's amazing. It's amazing. What happens when you getting Greg Olsen? You just forget how fucking good Wesley walls was. Let's walls was one of the original really good tight ends. Ron Olsen is just like an I'll I I'm this might be a hot take. But like physically speaking Olsen is like an all time tied end athlete. So it's. I don't think that's a hot Tyke at all. I think Greg Olsen. Well, pre ankle and foot injury. Greg ocean was the second best tight end in the NFL. Yeah. The only tied in better than Greg Olsen was wrong. I'm looking at the Williams. Dangelo balance through its numbers right now. Definitely a higher peak than Stewart. They both have won proble Daniel had to eight. He ran for fifteen hundred yards eighteen touchdowns, which is absurd. Really good. Yeah. John had one thousand yard season had eleven thirty three. He would have thousand yards in two fifteen if you didn't get hurt into the year. But Jonathan Stewart styles yard season was the same as the Angela Williams fifteen hundred yard season. They both ran for over thousands yards. And I honestly think that their roles should have been reversed like Jonathan Stewart should have been the guy that runs the majority and you bring Indiana Williams at the end of the game to run past a tire defense. I think they always had that backwards. And if they would have done it that way, we probably wouldn't be having this conversation. Digitally all said that thing for the first six years of his career. He averaged over five yards carry for his career, which is at that point. It was like him. Jamaal Charles Jim Brown or something like that. And then he got old on slowdown big time. But and then he. And then got better and then went to Pittsburgh and played really well for one season. Then got old what about Charles on the? Nah, that's a hard one. But I would probably say, no. But he was like from defensive end Johnson is probably gonna be the best player that doesn't get in. Sad the way I see it is like. The way I am. Like my criteria is like what were they like among the best players in the NFL for an extended period of time while playing for the Panthers. And I don't think Charles Johnson was that I mean like Saks from like two thousand nine to two thousand thirteen. Yeah. But we've had dog shit on the other side of the time. Yeah. Ever that was back when we had like Tyler Brayton as the other defensive end light to me. It's like his fault that this on the other side. No, oh, but it's a point against him for me, an all time great like somebody has to get the statistics. So it's Julius peppers. He had so many sacks when he had shit side from them. Jewish. It never had the side of him though. Julius peppers was the best player on the best defensive line that the franchises ever had. How many sacks you have done when he played side opposite Tyler Brayton? I don't know. But Jewish third all time in sacks. Like, it's just saying the argument is kind of time second in franchise history in sacks to your. Overruling his one of his best seasons as a panther. When he played opposite. Right. All I'm saying. No Brad is saying is that Charles Johnson leading the team in sacks. I is not have any. It's. What I was saying though, he led the NFL in overall sacks over that period. Time. Did he because he never really had? I thought you meant that. He led the Panthers inside. He he had more sacks. He was the most consistent pass rusher over like four years prime than any other passers in the NFL. I don't remember that being true. But if it is then yeah, he probably should get in. But I thought you meant most on the team because he doesn't mean diddly squat because the pass rush on our team was dog shit. When we had Charlie Charles Johnson's prime. He was the most consistent pass rusher from year to year to year to year in the NFL at that time now when he was considered the one of the higher paid guys. That's that was the point. I was making. So to for me what I do. I look at it is like kinda put in like video game perspective or like, Madden perspective. Like you have to have like a. Overall rate being in the mid not mid to high nineties for an extended amount of time, I'll playing with the Panthers be considered like a hall of honor type thing just because you know, to put a number on it. 'cause that's what I do for everything. I mean, it's essentially are hall of fame. So you have to ask the question is this person an NFL hall of fame caliber player, that's bad. If they're not like if there's not even really an argument that I don't think they should get in the hall of honor. And the the we could even call it. The Chris gamble problem because Chris gamble is one of the best corners we've ever had. But if you look at his career compared to other players, he's not that great. And I get it that it's Panthers hall of honor. But I I don't think guys like that should get in. It was weird. I have a hall of honor with guys in there that have no NFL accolades to their name. Yeah. Yeah. I mean. You know, should Jon Beason get in. That one's close because he's got a bunch of pro bowls and stuff. Yeah. So by the way to Brian's point Charles Johnson in his peak is four best year stretch is best for your stretch from two thousand ten to two thousand thirteen. He was nowhere to go. Eighth in the NFL. Total sacks with forty four. If you make that five years he was fifth. That's not terrible. No. But but that's like like for the four-year stretch. He was he's tied with John Abraham will end one sack find Jason bobbin. Like, that's the kind of. Yeah. Kind of competition. That's the kind of companies keeping if I'll do the five year one where he was better. It's pretty similar the names are a little better. But you get the point. I'll tell you what we should do for the hall of honor the like the two thousand and three front four should go in as a unit. Yes. That's that was sixth. He was six between two thousand seven fourteen starred interrupt right between Tomba Holly. Mario williams. Yeah. See I don't think that should be in the hall of honor. But like the two thousand three defensive front four like, you know, Rucker Jenkins. Crap over the other two came. Yeah. Kris jenkins. Mike rocker was Brenston Buckner. Yeah. Yeah. Peppers in pepper, obviously. But you know, that those four guys as a group should go. And like we should have like a plaque two thousand three front four best in the NFL or some shit like that. The two thousand fifteen team, you know, things like that. They went fifteen in one and almost won the Super Bowl things like that. I think that would be cool for the hall of honor. Because it's basically a museum is what it is came onto a team yet side. He was doesn't six two thousand eight. So it would have been peppers Rucker peppers Rucker Buckner Jenkins. Yeah. Rocker Buckner Jenkins, whereas the front four the linebackers were Dan Morgan will Witherspoon and Greg favors. Mike mentor Dion grant with safeties and Terry cousin Reggie Howard corners. And then we also had at defensive end. Everybody favorite back up. Our wallace. I've said this one hundred times if I've said at once every team in the NFL should have an hour Wallis on it. The dude is. He's he's basically like the the NBA six man, and you can put him in there and not who's a step and every team should have that. That would be ideal. Here's a good one. Should he get in? Or should he not get in Ricky role? No. On your value mating as a player or coach at our thing as. What does the coaching the help him? I heard him. I if you add it. I mean, I feel like Adam the coaching part of it. It hurts. He didn't develop anybody. In two thousand fifteen wasn't that. Give it our wide. Receivers was the weakness. That's I mean pro- pros here for three years and had thirteen hundred yards total in three years. I know clutch moments, but it was kind of like that'd be like. That's going with it. Should we count clutch moments? Like, I wouldn't Robert ory doesn't Robert ory isn't in the Basketball Hall of fame. Even though should they not? As fair that people who are like, really, really good. He was in the right place at the right time several times he made the shot. Yeah. I know he gets credit for that. But very few people get the opportunity to make that many shots. Okay. Here's here's one that that people are going to have very strong opinions on. Brad Hoover now. Oh god. I know people love I'm going to say, yes. Just so I become everybody's favorite member of this podcast already are pander Panter, even more. I mean, I don't think he should because you know, he's basically version of Rudy. But I mean, he was here for what thirty years it's seemed like two two thousand nine. Yeah. Seems like a whole lot longer than that. I'm looking at the two thousand and three roster. Obviously loose skits in. Like, you'll probably get in next year. Kris Mangum definitely deserves it came. Okay. Tempting. Okay. John, John, FOX. Brad hoover. His rushing stats are really funny, obviously that was what he was here for. But if you look at them. Because he's just like averaging. Three point six are two point two three point three three point three two point two two point six yards per carry for ProSieben is yet. He's like three yards a cloud of dust in carnet. I'm going to get the ball. Yeah. Inefficient way to move your offense might goodness. Like, six hours. A catch. Three are the Kerry. That's the Panthers. If I can find some more names here. What about Sean foster? I'm gonna do this. I'm going to. Dragon the towel. But this last night. Let's see. Any year team? Carolina panthers. Proximate value greater than or equal to fifty. Sort by. Brock's valley get results. Numbers too. Big. To handle that. Now. Okay. Here we go. So the best player in Carolina Panthers. History is. According to pro football, focus. No, he's third. Steve smith. He second. Oh, well, who the hell's better than stace myth, courtesy? For east, Lloyd. It's Cam Newton guys. Oh. Already. Uh-huh. He's already his approximate value. According to pro football references already ceased with it goes Cam Newton cease Mitchell peppers Keithly Thomas Davis, stored gross Ryan Kalil moose in Muhammed. So that's the top eight pretty much like Rucker I fairly. That's where we start getting into the gray area. Yeah. Because then we have to start considering things. Like what did they do off the field? Where they community people things like that. Like does Dan Connor deserve to get in. Here's the best linebackers. We ever had until he couldn't stop getting concuss stand bargain. Yeah. The wrong wrong. White number fifty five. I'm sorry. Not Dan Connor, Dan more. So other thing, by the way. So you has pro football references approximate value values. I'm vaguely familiar. It's basically, I don't know what the formulas. But it's yeah. It's basically are tempted to win shares. So it's cumulative. Which is war. And the draw from like Cam Newton deceased myth is one twenty to one twenty and then it goes down to missing mama's eight. So they're all pretty. Dropped to might mentor who sixty six micro-society five Anna, Jake delone sixty two but he gets the quarterback boost. So that's MS Muhammad the definite cutoff line in after that, it's kind of picker choose based on personal preference in position all field impact and stuff like that. Free not on the list. John get in because he gave me an autograph football training camp. He gives him. I think we should wrap it up the show a lot longer than we planned. Yeah. Yeah. Damn. Sabra his time for me to go to bed seem. Well for all of us here at the keep sounding podcast. Thank you for listening to our Braff tapes and hall of honor takes and hopefully we'll have some more for you here in a little bit. But this myself Brian joined by Brad, John and a have a great rest of the week. And we'll talk to here in the next few weeks. Are you at the hall of every week? We should. See the football. For the touchdown. Took it in time. Thanks for the. Jonathan Stewart that he's in for a touchdown. That's. Gets a road win in New England.

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414 Jake Hurwitz, Amir Blumenfeld, Brett Morris, Kevin Bartelt

"Four. Three two. It's time for EPA sewed four fourteen of who charted the show where comedians discussed the top five songs and movies of the week is the middle of November. I'm your H, Michael Cray, Howard, Cray, or. What I don't know. What to say at that point? Yes. Our we gotta work on that ad copy. Right there. Copy. It's it's intro copy. Maybe if I go, I'm your H, Michael Cray. I'm here with start and Cav. Yeah. That sounds good. Feels good episode fourteen. They figured it out housekeeping. That is good because I was to blow that off. I'm H Michael Cray. I'm here with start and Cal. And then what would do is say that point? Yeah. Maybe then you go how we're. Okay. And we're with Howard. And then we just loop it. Well, this is a mess. I'm barest professionals in here where they haven't been introduced yet. But I'll tell you. I went to their patriarch page. I gotta ask him about it that thinks cook it we're trying they can't talk yet. Didn't introduce them. Keep bathing them into. I can only talk in Hebrew until you introduce me. I can count in Hebrew, okay Stein. Shallow sh- gannet. Hodge dime. Shut us is due to three Ken. Cannons only count two and three. Only ones. I. One. Well, no because I was reformed reform. I'll still reform. He really shouldn't be talking has been introduced. Sleep hop. Shush. I would always say sleek chef oh sorry now or excuse me. Right now, Ken. Okay. Yeah. I guess Hebrew gets through the sensors or something like that. Well, let's not waste any more time here. They are. They're comedians writers and actors, you know, them as the founders of the head gum podcast network their show. If I were you there show if I were to Jake and Amir. Type of fear. This this music now get into it. It's too loud. Even when it's quiet. It's too loud. For me. It's like impossible to play it. Softly. Yes. Yeah. So jarring an invasive at any volume. Size music, yelling a whisper. I went to the movies this weekend. I won't tell you to we get to the movies chart. What it was? But it was literally the loudest. Oh, have you beat? I have a movie that was so loud. I almost walked out that everybody loved. Well. Let me say. You got me. I watched this movie with ear plugs in and it was still rattling my skull. Okay. So I wonder if this movie is louder than the one I'm thinking of movie. Out a year and a half ago. I know what yours was what I think I know I can even pull one movie from last year. Yes. Last year loud movie. Was there a World War Two? Oh, dunkirk. There you go. Now. No, John wick to know. Okay. I wanna say louder, but I haven't seen either. Can't imagine a movie louder than the one. I said our seller. There's that there's not one the what I saw and I wear earplugs. All the time every movie. Yeah. This one took it or not. Wow. Why do they do that? I have no idea our brains are different shape than most people. I couldn't figure out how anyone could handle it. When it ends it. Just feels like such a relief. It was bad. Max, it was madman. That had to be crazy with you. And I said that was too loud. You said you walked out. I thought that I almost almost walked did we all left the theater, and that was the best awesome. I didn't like. That was too loud for me. I have tonight us. It was okay. Did you see Mad Max is the movie saw louder than Mad Max, it's well max was like a car scene with an electric tour? I'm trying to remember. I think I saw that in theaters. I don't remember. I saw an incredibly lab movie this weekend. I'm wondering one you is an incredibly loud in incredibly close. He sought to it was not saying right sanely overlord overlord Lord is so allowed leibel. It's basically World War Two they find out to some fishy alien aliens. But like, you know, supernatural medical I thought this was the Grinch movie. Back to the volume. This thing starts off with a like in the middle of an air battle where they gotta jump out of the plane. You know parachute. Yeah. Paratroopers? It was it was the most full Ambroise you've ever heard. Yeah. Yeah. It's pretty it's pretty insane. It's a really good movie though. I mean, I loved it. I saw that. I it's really lower of it. And I stand by it. I only see about an hour of movies, the free passed so in and out in and out. Yeah. But I saw mid-nineties too. That was good. I our that. Now, I heard that movie was only like an hour long hour and a half. I still couldn't stick it out. A good one bring brought me back to the mid nineties as the running time to perfect that'd be good. If all movies were named after their running time. I liked that transparency. What was that movie? That was silent. Oh that was one thirty eight. Movie recently where like nobody was thinking. Yeah. Acquire play way to that. So that way. But you know, you would get used to a really low volume on that. And then somebody yells or something it could be a big spike like with overlord. It was so loud that I left the ear plugs in then I couldn't hear the dialogue. Out one plug, and then you're seeing the movie audio in ear. Maybe that's that'll be the next thing for these. Idioms kind of boring. It's kind of played out. Maybe they'll start mixing movies. I liked about time. All right. Well, let's get into it. We gotta music chart. That's right. I'll do a here we go. Back in the day. We played L peace tracks cassettes and see the now we download and we stream if you're a John let me hear you scream tunes tunes. Thank you. Do you guys? Do you guys wrap on your podcast not enough? We mostly free style weed trapping, you're reading which I don't wanna call you out. No reading I was I was off the top of the dope. Got your stereo. Yeah. Papers you can see that. Oh, so is just like to give yourself complete sensory deprivation could freestyle. Yes. Got you know, this is odd because somebody told me this story yesterday, which applies Gerard Carmichael. You know, him the stand up. Yeah. He brings a paper with them on stage. Just many stabbed ups do with the, you know, most stand ups have some jokes or written on there. All his says, keep going that's fun. Just keep going, and he doesn't show it to the crowd or make a joke out of it. It just gives him a chance to like take a breather. That's good. Oh, that's cool. I thought it was weird. Actually, it's actually a bit of his called keep going. So as a reminder. Yeah. Yeah. Bit. Yeah. Do keep close with that would make sense. I don't know. Why does it? And then someone interpreted, oh, it's koso-. He's pushing himself. Yeah. That's what the bits call. Yeah. Keep going. Hey, we've never had so many dudes at here. This is pretty crazy. We can do a boy bent out of this. We have the exact number. Your howie. I call Howie how he calls Howie. I too. It's too hot to claim Howie because I don't want to be the worst one who's the worst one. How he is the worst one J AJ's worsen. Howie are comparable is a bad. As how he's kind of the sweetheart. That's fine. There was I looked grease balls. I didn't have to grease balls. Yeah. I like Kevin. He's the tall one. Right. All right, Kevin, and Brian and Nick Carter was taller than Kevin. I would think I don't think so. Aaron Carter was weeded here. And let him know why? All right. What are we got this week down the top five from the billboard top two hundred. These are the songs from the most popular albums of the week. What if it was a top three hundred will we get the same five. Yeah. We should say the top two thousand. Yes. Give me the million. All right coming in at number five number five from the Carter five it's little Wayne with uproar. Get the fuck though. Komo scuff forward out of scuff up. Veal yesterday Halsey he scribbled something halls his arm. You guys hear about Lou Wayne and hall Z were at some show Saturday. I guess he scribbled something on her arm, and she got it immediately tattooed on and then ran out to do her performance. Okay. What did it say? Preview said forgiveness. I don't know. Why? That's so unlike halls -ly. What's her name Halsey awfully full name? We went to health school together. Like that doesn't like that at all. And I'm worried about hall's Li all fearless. And can you please reach out? Let us know Halsey. You're okay. I'm worried about you Halsey, we'll forgiveness you. We're filled with it. You guys know TAT's for you, gentlemen. Jake, Scott, a few you do have a butterfly tattoo on my forearm. I'm sorry. Everybody listening. Smashing pumpkins butterfly wings. It was a musical thing. When I was eighteen I had a Qatari that had butterflies all along the fret board. And I thought I was going to be a musician. So I was like, you know, what I'm gonna get started early. I'll get my tattoo now. And then I'll I'll be covered in cool tattoos. But this will be the first meaningful. One Rolling Stone will do profile on it out. You only got the one on there. Yeah. The one the one is it. For anybody listening. I took off my shirt and a huge Cobra on my back, which is way cooler that is cool. Well, I don't know the butterfly is. It's like where you gonna always use that same guitar that was the plan. Yeah. It was a love that guitar it did I it helped me with ladies in high school. But not since then so it wasn't really worth it. Do you still have the Qatar? I do still have the tire. It's good now that Instagram like people pay butterflies on wall and girls take pictures in front of it like the is that something. That's that's yeah. Instead of become a musician. I'm gonna do lean heavy into a butterfly thing. Gee, people just take Instagram self as in front of your wrist. Really small people when you say healthy with the ladies, what song would you actually play because I play guitar in high school. And I always felt like when I asked you had one of my hand it was like. What do you actually want to hear the answer is Wonderwall while I was gonna say wall wonder while the song, and it was more than words by extreme. I think if I picked up a tar today Wonderwall, I could probably like mess around on the risks of a couple of other ones, but wonder walls, still the only one I could just because of how I did it every single Friday at a campfire. Campfires at high school. Yeah. That was what we did in Connecticut. We just had bonfire parties. Oh, like not attached to the school. No. Yeah. That'd be that'd be losers that doesn't sound like a Connecticut thing to have a cool school so cool school school. With your like sleeves up during the bonfire. So people could see the tat. Oh, yeah. Yeah. With the with the left sleeve up playing. Yeah. Butterfly, butterfly tattoo, the butterfly guitar. Well, we're learning about the way pickup Connecticut. Let's talk to Amir about embarrassing stuff from his. Romeo. Hebrew school. No, I was the opposite of Romeo. Juliet. No, they were actually very similar. I studied Shakespeare lot. And I was at the school parties that nobody went to. He he Bruce. Shakespeare who would be the Hebrew. Shakespeare, maybe most Oz probably to mind as a Jewish writer. I was gonna say shel Silverstein. Oh, that's pretty good. All right verse. I'll change my answer. Okay. God god. Oh, what do you have a row? The goat code go greatest. God of all time. Let's see what sex number four number four from love me. Now, it's Torey lanes with talk to me. Sean. Doing this too. Yeah. You guys. Record your podcast in downtown LA. Correct. And you are doing very well on patriot. I gotta say that right before I left to come here. And I was like, hey, ho, whoa. What are these Doboy junior? God goal is to be junior junior. What have you ever thought of a tour with those guys or something we think about it all the time? They've never thought about it though. Think about his arby's stuff, French fries, and milkshakes or something. That is a little dangerous. Like, you know what I mean? It's not good to be eating that food all the time. Yeah. But they seem to pull it off. They only have to do it once a week, right? Yeah. So you can eat healthy during courage, others to be addicted to that Greece. Meet. Well, not necessarily because some of the poorly about some of them, they urged people from meeting discouraged there. Forget the name of it. But there was a place that they really really hated. Yeah. Maybe maybe it was blimpy's. I think there's something addictive about it. You know what? I mean, the food there. There's talking about food. Yeah. Because it's like they're not talking about kale. No. Yeah. Definitely not well, sometimes they tender greens and some healthy chain. Okay. I'd like to see more of that. Yeah. What do you do? You guys talk about stuff that you're purposely trying to sort of you know, what I mean? Yeah. Tach to the listeners, brain stem, get them addicted. We have a new maybe twenty episodes about cigarettes and how they're not that bad for you. That could be an example of. Yeah. I smoked three yesterday three cigarettes and you're still kicking. And I gotta tell you. I was in my car afterwards. Drive them. Anyway, I felt awful for about two hours. Yeah through. Yeah. Yeah. Actually never had a cigarette. Really? Yeah. I made you take a drag of one once. Yeah. It was not good. I don't know to me. It feels like I'm fixing my lips around a car exhaust fight. Felt like smoking marijuana coughing. I don't know if I have a sensitive throat, or if I never got past that phase right now what if if I started doing a podcast about how great cigarettes are like you had suggests that you're hired. You could be on a head of network tomorrow. Thank you. About anything though qualms? That's my rap name little qualms. Xiaomi qualms. All right. Why don't we see what's coming in at number three number three? It's ballots. One the album from Joji the song. Yeah. Right. He's rapping over kid or something. Yeah. Slow. This is this is what you would call Ambien rap. I guess when I heard the first like ten seconds of that's on. I was like, oh, what is music, and then the second ten fucking love this. This is great. What do you like about it? I liked the Ambien like kind of transient of it. That's yeah. It's so soothing. Doing anything to this? I could just like go for a nighttime drive to this like make is with somebody across a bar. But those are my favorite things to do. I could like work to this. I don't think I could actively listen to it. Yeah. I guess I I don't think I would like fold laundry listening to this. This is a sexy song Ambi, ripping insects like it'd be on MBA into this. Ambient only to sleep on long flights. Okay. Ever used it. Recreationally never fought. You know, I did that once and it wasn't fun at all fun to be drowsy. Yeah. It was very underwater. Like not able to get to the surface kind of thing. A couple times thing that I have you like really races your memory. Yeah. So you have no idea if you really had fun. And your girlfriend if she's on. It has no idea how much she did wrong than before. Reset. But every has no idea what you think you figure you have fun because he stayed up really late in like it feels like some weird dream. Nobody can really tell you. What happened? Yeah. Yes. Weird whether the effects on the brain. Didn't Roseanne claim Ambien for your Harambee and tweet. It doesn't make you racist. I've I've been I that I didn't suffer that side effect. All right. What's it? Number two. Number two. It's a star is born soundtrack lady Gaga with always remember us this way. This movie was too loud to tell you that right now see this movie. See this movie. Guitar. Probably probably trying to be. This was a great episode of Nashville the TV. Why wishing to movie, but people seem to be loving. Loving is. Where is is Cooper on the charts right now? Who's that? Brad. Bradley cooper. Oh, yes. It'd be from this move from from the soundtrack it makes lady Gaga, no stranger to this. But like a top song in the country is sung by Bradley Cooper that insane. And you know, he seem more like a rock show than she did. And she really is one. It was a lot going on in their good. He's a good actor. He's a good actor what about Streisand which have been better in this just bring her back as a older older lady? Well, that's good a stars reborn or something. Yeah. Yeah. It seems like this movie was made before nine eleven. Yeah. When people had a nicer view of the world, just like a fine movie. But like we have bigger fish to fry now. I'm with you. Yeah. About this. Another Batman need to take my mind shit, statement Cooper. But even like almost famous seemed to cover all this ground already. Do I thought? Yeah. I can I feel like I don't need to see the movie because I've seen the movie listening to that seven second clip. Yes. You actually right because I watched it, and there's not that many surprises you walked out after nine minutes. I saw this one twice. Wow. Parts artsy. I mean, I our second hour then second very piecemeal piece bills away to go. I mean, that's what Netflix has taught us, right? Yeah. That we can watch at our own pace the lesson of Netflix. Thank you that flicks. They pulled eleven dollars out of my count via stripe. Yeah. Every month. Right. Yep. So that today. Actively on their suspicious. I keep thinking that I should cancel these monthly fees that I should probably get rid of their service that just like aggregates all of them. Let's you like a debt consolidation. Unroll dot me shit. You pay like an HBO now or something? What about dollars a month? There's a Hulu. Yeah. Maybe a maybe some Brazzaville's I want. Yeah. 'cause there's browsers has like original content. But the also just licensed stuff, so you can watch NBC shows. I watch will and grace on browsers. Got some the relocation deals on that. It's like what was that? Oh, see so browsers has every Monty python? Okay. Good. Yeah. And they have. Jillian property. They do now. Okay. Good guy went to high school with we traded HBO and Amazon accounts. But the downside is anytime. He buy something. I get an Email, and we're like not really close friends anymore. So it's like a pocket knife is on the way out every time. He got this. So if if you saw a chainsaws on the way, do you check it or you go it's just that guy. Check the address I know I know it's going to him. But if you found that he was ordering some really shady shit like chainsaw. Goes dark web. Yeah. That's what I'm nervous about because I'm not really close at the many more. So I'm not looking forward to that. And our kids cookbook, she tried to lightly. Do it last year? I changed my password. And he was like, hey, dude. How's it going? Just the past. I can't like log in damage still should just give him back. We what is it? What do you HBO? That's pretty good. I know. But now he gave it to sister. And she's getting books for college. So I feel like I'm like now, I'm supporting their family, Mike, God, this is so bizarre wrapped up in deep. But you're paying for all the stuff that he's she's I get the Email every time they but they're using. Hey, that free shipping is that what it is. Really quick. Like, you can't turn off the Email for that. To my knowledge. I've tried. So what does he see you by Kev? That's the real recently watched. Yeah, he could see that. I got like a new face lotion or something. Pretty crazy Senlis lavender. What are you doing? What am I doing? I don't know something. I keep looking good. I don't I need to do more research check. Oh, what flavor you go? All right. Let's see what's coming in number one. This is shocking to me from C. It's Andrea Bocelli with fall on me. This is the top album in the world yet because at Christmas, I guess this guy always pops up around November to remind Christmas is around the corner. Are you? Are you guys looking for an early Homolka this year? Looking for. I'm looking for a December second Hannukah the early one. Yeah. Yeah. Get your stuff earlier get it out of the way. Okay. And then after like, I don't have to worry about the end of the December the Christmas thing. Allegations are done. Right on Christmas have my family's Christian. The other half is Jewish and like nobody's ever going home for Hanukkah, but I'm home already for Christmas. Right. So boom, I could not couple days. Hannukah the way. If I if I don't have the family celebrating that I forget that hannukah's happening. Really? Yeah. I always know my Hanukkah because I missed getting the gifts. And I missed the cookies my mom made. Yeah. Hannukah's stuff because you have like just eight days. You're you're more than tearing up here openly weeping. Christmas day. Everybody goes home for one day. Yeah. Christmas is by the way, three months at this point. It's weird to say that it's one day because I'm already seeing like Christmas ship. Chilies already topping. I mean, this is getting ridiculous at a certain point. It's going to start swallowing thanksgiving and Halloween, and then it's like September third Chris Grinch soundtrack again, it's like enough already. And the worst of all is Christmas in July. Don't know where that comes from. They want another one. Well, the you'll see like people dressing up like Santa and they're on the beaches. I think you're talking about an ambient trip. You had. Produce evidence. If I have all right? Well, I would like to see somebody thrown that guy. I know that Gwen stefani's putting out a Christmas album. Really? Yup. I think what's his name the kid. 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And I'm here with Amir Blumenfeld, and Jake Hurwitz, and Brad Morris and Kef Bartell, and this is the movies chart. They're just like tweet. Release them constantly. Them. We don't need to see when you're getting a good one. That's it movie. That's good. Thanks. Tweet. They are. Right. Yeah. Hundred and forty characters and some. I'm glad they didn't make movies longer this past year. Thank you for longer movies. You could love them. Really? Yeah. What are you Doug pension over their shit? What else do I don't it? Don't. Let's keep going. You get tired of sitting there. Exactly what I want. Exactly, I love you have them on the ropes get them. You wouldn't want to like? Albums. I gotta listen to listen to music. Your dream. Mission. I'm trying. Wait a second. Rockstar getting laid in high school with music late. I said I did well with the ladies. Okay. Well, the what did you mean by that first base? Second base. This. That's pretty good for high school junior. Yeah. I mean, I was too scared even Kisa girl. She was my girlfriend. I've just walk around hands with her. And this is last week last week, you're in a Santa suit Santa con. Let's get into this. All right. So we're mixing it up. We're going to talk about the highest grossing American sport films of all time. Now, you guys. Yes. Yeah. Can we do some guessing sure guess one? But if it's on there, I'm not gonna tell you. So. Let's let's just here ahead of time. Prognosticate? Okay. So I will guess that number one is rocky assuming boxing is a sport. Of course sport is rocky on the list. I will tell you this right now, you must be referring to which rocky. The original. Now that you asked me because the sequels are more successful than the first creed. He says creed you say to that's not on the list. I'm sorry. But you're in you're in the neighborhood interesting. What is your favorite of all time Space Jam Space Jam tell you this. I've never seen Space Jam. Do you want them to reboot? It. Oh, hell, yeah. I believe in LeBron is he's the goat. Here's the goat athlete and actor greatest actor of all time you go to the use any of those UCB readings of Space Jam with Blake Griffin. No, I did not. But that's awesome. You wanna three hour remake of space. That's longer than a basketball game. You watch a whole Jordan game. Think space. You might be number one. I remember reading something maybe the number one basketball movie of all time. All right. Well, we're about to find out. Let's dig into it. What's number five? Kef. Rocky three. Oh. Three after winning the alternate title. And being the world champion rocky falls into a ho and finds himself picked up by a former enemy, which is we know clubber Lang, right or is it Apollo cluber? Mr. T, Mr. T, clubber Lang, I train alone. I live alone. What did he say paper champion saw three billion? Ever thought three is three. Fours, Ivan drag its Apollo Apollo cluber, Ivan Drago, Tommy gun. Wow. Kevin watch these religiously as a kid, really. Not very tough. Wow. Didn't inspire me? Join the arts. Leader speaking, not tough and mall. That did anybody see that Morrissey attack? Morsi got attacked on stage. Who? Halsey bikini top lots of I don't know. This is the footage was grainy. But it was somebody ran out there. I'm wondering like was because Morris, he's pro Brexit. So maybe it was like a a liberal English person or something could be very unlikely. Yeah. Being that aggressive at a maybe he has fallen could be. Yeah. Our boss. He has a lot of controversial takes too. Morrissey. Yeah. Let's see other words he's pretty like he said some pretty racist things. Sure. He's been pretty pro Weinstein like not having good takes in the metoo movement. So like, not even controversial just wrong. He's like. Too hard on them. I got asked to join a Morrissey cover band a couple months ago, and I walked in. And then was like kind of doing more research about him. And was like, hey, guys. I'm out and then what did not go over? Well. Yeah. Most people just blow off the addition. Yes, showed up and was like reading. It was a little awkward. Don't want this. But yeah, take in Morrissey tribute dishes before, you know, much about more. That's another gas for top movie. Let's hear it major league to that is a great movie major league to setting set in the what is that the fifties forty-seven baseball. I don't see it on here. What about the real sports guys? What your team a real sports on the Laker fan? Laker Rams fan. No. I'm not football. I grew up a raiders fan. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Gotcha. I'm Yankees fan. That's probably my main sports team. I used to be a patriots fan. But now, I because you guys in Connecticut continues whether you what Boston teams are New York too. Yeah. Yeah. It was easy choice back then we'll also because New England Patriots sort of. Encompassed Connecticut too, right? I think of New England when you say Connecticut. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I was trying to I almost started telling you off Mike when I was a real little kid before Giants Stadium was built they they they played at Shaef, you know, and then like for one year or two years, they it at the Yale bowl in Connecticut. Yeah. Like was super little kid and remember going up there to watch giants game. Wow. What year was that? Because it was in the seventies somewhere. Damn. Damn. That's really cool. I went to Yale Harvard games at that that place. It's it was always crazy. Yeah. It's like a cool like intimate kind of stadium yet. Really fun. You likes the Lakers. Tone of the answer is I do like seeing the lakes important games playoffs championship. Yeah. I went to Lakers Celtics finals game at Boston Garden when I was living New York. That's cool. Yeah. Lakers lost. I saw Lakers. Magic in Orlando, which was probably the most important Laker victory. I saw live Derek Fisher. Okay. Hit like a three to send the game to overtime. The Lakers want to take a three oh in that series. And then they were they the magic came back for three right? Yes. That is the fan fiction. You wrote oh, actually a three one lead that that point we won four to one that would be. So if the fan fiction, you wrote was just sports team. Orlando. And then the magic went on to repeat, right? The next year. They took down navarine check left. The and they got good. Orlando doesn't have much going for them think they got the they got a team the Orlando Magic. Yeah. Yeah. They have one professional sports team down there. That's it. All they need like dog racing or something. Yeah. I'm really big into that as well. That's actually. Movie air bud could be on the list. Airbud golden retriever. What is it golden receiver golden receiver coming in at number four number four real steel? Wow. Speaking loud movies, docs, crazy Lau, two yet. Hugh Jackman manager of robot, boxers how this is a big movie world number four of all time, worldwide gross three hundred million. This is a great sport. You guys don't think there should be a movie about it. This is the top two of the top five so far boxing coach a robot building, he builds them or some little kids something I always see it in cable, and it's like avatar style or like he's boxing in the robots box. I love action movies you'd like that one. Seems like you're not to two hours. Just need something to do. I seriously can't believe this is top five. Yeah. Yes grossing. Yeah. That's real still beats any rocky movie. Perhaps we don't know what the top three are. Where does it? What we're where's the money? Come from. Yeah. This is probably like four and. Yeah. Chinese dollars. Yeah. We shouldn't. And there's like even Dakota Goyo is one of the stars second billing who's raise your hand. If you've heard of that, nobody that tells you foreign money, right, right? Like, the Meg did you see any of that? Now. I went to see I couldn't even get through the first hour. I twenty minutes big shark Levy, did you see the big shark? They even show the shark while we were there. No like overlord got it. Right. Because they start right in the middle of some action. Right. The people from the Meg needed to see that. I mean, I waited a couple of months. Yeah. It was like a half hour before anything happened at all. But so a lot of the leads were, you know? You tell that like English wasn't their first language. Yeah. And there wasn't a lot of like that's not the market thereafter. Yeah. But they weren't pop and they were like boring people you never heard of. Yeah. Well, good luck would love to see real still to. It's about time. Okay. What's coming in at number three? I think Amir is going to be very happy with this. Rocky four. Wow. Another Ocoee movie. There. It is trial though, a six foot four. Why did they give his weight two hundred sixty one pound fighter? Damn gronk. And he's got the backing of the Soviet Union. This is what creed to is going to be about. Oh, really? That's cool. I did not like Crete as much as the normal human. I love create either. Yeah. Yeah. The movie, right? Not the guy the movie, what's he was running those bikes through the neighborhood in the morning. I thought I can't root for that guy. Too many regular folks who are piece of euro. Dolph Lundgren, right? Yeah. Doesn't he have like a he'll like a Rhode scholar or something is he? Yeah. He's a genius dolphin fan fiction. Iraqi behind the scenes fan fiction and then. Then he went on to get a PHD. All right. What's it to number two? It's the blindside. Wow. Oh. Is this about idea? There's the big deal just for one night. Best idea you. This is kind of the star is born for sports. She won an Oscar off this left. Tackle is born. He's been enrolled in institutions the electricity between these two was palpable is the guy is still playing Robert ory is that who it was. Laker. Yeah. Michael oher, Gloria's, Robert ory. That's a different worst movie. He was just raised in a normal home. No, adoptive parents. You guys do your show downtown LA. Do you make it over the Staples? After shows and stuff. Yeah. Like, I said I like watching the Lakers. I. There is a time when we were going to a lot of clippers games when I first moved out here in the clippers were still fun to watch agent used to get us tickets to these games. And now, I feel like the Lakers are popular. I can't even get I can't get tickets through him anymore. It's tough till they stink again. That's how I got to go to a game a bunch of games through the agents and the managers. Yeah. Have those stop for you as well? Well, yeah. Because you know, what it is. It's like the same as meals with them after you're not that hungry anymore. You've been in town for a while you realize like I could just eat on my own, and I wouldn't have to talk to these guys. You know, they're not. They're not they're they're a little, you know, they're nuts and bolts. That's the agents. That's how they feel about me. And amir. They're making money. They don't need to put up with you anymore. Yeah. Exactly. How you guys feeling about? Lebron? You pro pro LeBron really. Very excited. I hated the Lakers, and I love LeBron. But now my love for Braun has trumped my hatred for the Lakers Laker fan. Wow. So Bronwyn, I think is the best. What about Lonzo? Is he going to be around? He's going to be around for now for sure, but he's kind of losing minutes to raise on Rondo Rondo ball, who's going to be around longer Rondo or Lonzo Lonzo I think he's younger Rondos on a one year deal. But LeBron loves Rondo so maybe LeBron will pick and choose his teammates. Like, he always does being diplomatic because he just like all the Lakers, or would you be a little happy? If Lonzo got traded. It depends on who we get back from. Right. And. What about the dad is he bothering you? Or you don't even care. Lavar has been very quiet this year. Yeah. Yeah. Probably last big outburst. And then and then he he got quiet. There's something that ended in them. He took his high school or to Lithuania. That was a big one. Yeah. But then he realized not a lot of cameras were in Lithuania. Now, the kid is back playing basketball in Ohio. I think right. But I mean, do you think like when they made the trade for LeBron? Yeah. They said like look one of the contingencies as you just stay out of the way. Yeah. I don't know. It seems like that would only AIG even further. It seems like he was naturally starting to go away even before LeBron. All the air out of the room for him. Probably. Yeah. Yeah. Big deal. But he could say like because he challenged Michael, Jordan. You could save LeBron could beat you lavar p too early because then he started saying stuff like I could be Michael Jordan. Okay. So you'll say anything, right? So we know under care. Should've paced himself. He could have peaked when LeBron came it would've been nice if they have not. I have not. Yeah. Yeah. A Cy dual climax LeBron taking lavar in on his shoulders. Is there a fan fiction again in any both joined the Orlando Magic. Oh god. Can you imagine? This thing is just dove tailing together. Well, we burn through all Araki's. Unfortunately, we burn through our boxing where number one number one. What do you think just give me an area? Don't even give me the name of the movie just give me the sport. I'll say football. And I think it's can I say what I think it is you're wrong. But okay. Remember the titans? That's correct. Because it's not just about football. It's about race relations fifties and sixties. I'll say Space Jam because I think I read somewhere that's based John was the number one sports movies all the time. And I couldn't believe it. Well, it might be. I don't know where did this come from. I'm not sure. Magazine. Updated in nineteen eighty nine. All right. Well, let's see this martial arts. If I said, it's martial arts. Karate kid which was. Smith one there. It is commutes Roddy kid, Kevin what's number one karate kid from the originally. No original twenty ten all right long play the trailer from the original. So we can reflect it three hundred fifty nine million worldwide gross Brody is very proud of being from the valley of karate kid, or are you that way to Amir? I'm proud from the valley, but not necessarily because of karate, but does. The big one. That was an exciting movie for the when you look at valley culture. What are your top touchdowns? Ooh. What was his ambi- movie that was shot in the Sherman oaks Galleria? That was a big one for us. Oh, you know, what Terminator two the arcade? See? And in the beginning was shot at the Sherman oaks gallery. Okay. That's big. That's a good one. The this is the Galleria the previous Gallup's, right? The indoor Galleria because that's gone, right? Yeah. Well, they sort of have now it's like an indoor outdoor mall slash movie. I went there, you know with childhood memories. You hear about the Galleria valley, girl and all that. Yeah. And I was very disappointed. Sorry to hear that they had a in me. Lost. But I guess like. You know valley girl. Yeah. Valley girls a big one. I think it's Donna the dead or some movie that takes place entirely in a mall in the valley. Okay. But I forget Terminator two Greece. I think those car racing team scenes in the river valley, and like you said Encino, man. It's a big one or as they called it in Israel, California. Man. Did they really they did are you there when it was playing? I rented it is Isreaeli blockbuster. Blister knows actually called time out. Do you? Remember mcdavid is still there. Make David is not. But boobs on is the burger ranch instead of Burger King. David McDonald's ended up coming in and killing all the mcdavid. I would think so. Yeah. But yeah. Back in the eighties. Dave is popular spot. Yeah. You know, you'd get a newspaper to find out. What's going on in America? That's right preseason David even name this that up. David. It's like I went to Mexico, and they had spader, man toys. Loopholes. Yeah. I love one countries have different names for movies. Yeah. I went to Italy like three years ago, and they saw my ID and they're like, oh, Kevin like help us. We've lost our son the baby. Boy, I was like what am I sister? Guessed it like are you talking about home awhile? She's like, yeah. That's what it's called like help. We've lost our son. Just totally changing the name. It's like how YouTube videos are now titled they just like try to pull an interesting quote from the video to make the title of the video more people click on it. That's what they were doing back in Italy sneaky in the nineties my back to the football. My dad was at the game where Rudy like the big game at the end in. So he is he always tells people he's into movie Rudy people like freak out. And he's like, yeah. I was at the I was at the game where did they shoot that was that actually in south bend Notre Dame in Notre Dame? I think so he he was at the game. And they're like oh for ten minutes. We're just gonna shoot this quick thing. It's for this movie. Oh, cool. But to this day people are like, oh my God. Yeah. I thought you were saying there was a real game. The movie was based on that. He was at that game. No. They were they when they filmed it it was like same thing with like this star is born. They're like, hey, we're going to film this live. Yeah. So like, I guess did something for ten minutes, but they have like a big camera shot of the whole audience. And he's like, yeah. I'm there. I'm in the movie, that's me. I'm in a sports movie, then too. I was an extra is in real steel. The what was the the movie where deniro was a pitcher of the net. The something something the problem, or there was someone was going to try to kill the pitcher that Wesley Snipes. We just either go down to Anaheim stadium and just sit there all day, and then they go now we're gonna shoot it out field seed, everybody moved to the outfield bleachers. It was it was a horrific dead blocked out most of it the drums slowly, no it's the fan the fan fan. Did you ever see ever have? I might have rented that one from these really Starbucks. Remember, some old guys that were extras next to me bad mouth and Woody Allen movies the whole day when it was before any of the sexual Versi or anything. Was making great movies and really angry. They got the last laugh out right now. They're fans of is. Yeah. He turned it around that. Quick break. Let's take a break. And we'll be right back with the hot picks. Pud swag is your one stop shop for podcast, merch, like mugs pins posters. Hoodies and more courtesy of all your favorite podcasts. And most importantly, it's the best place to get who charted shirts from November fourteenth my nephew's birthday to dove, amber twenty-first. So when you knows birthday, you can get thirty percent off the entire who charted. Wow. Kev, the entire who charted collection with the code charts pods wake dot com charted dog. So they can get eighty t-shirt thirty percent off. Yeah. Interesting interesting. That's pots wag dot com slash charted code charts for thirty percent off thirty percent off a healthy discount gang, and you can get into a great who charted shirt, and I'll tell you a great conversation piece. It's not like a, you know, you might see. Lavar Burton reads, you know, what that is. No one's gonna ask you what that is. No one's gonna ask you about bang bang. It's massive. But who charted what's that all about? And all the sudden you've got an opening line. And you're on your way to lease Ville. Bang nation bang nation. And that's that's wack. Picks. Picks. The third job is a hot fix the countdown about the start. Let's see you pick. And let's see did not. Fix. Vicks. I gotta say that theme seems like slower BPM's every week. Yeah. That's not. Say life is just moving faster is true. Got fires. We got political firestorms. Yeah. Lebron's LA, right sport. Fires those clippers. They lost that playoff game. There was supposed to win. And now they trash franchise against you know, they're out playing their expectations record than the Lakers. Yeah. Would not much superstar talent. Wow. Not the last. Right. I don't know. They're scrappy bunch, and they're they're winning games. A mayor. Would you like to make this prediction, and we'll see comes true in may? Yes, you're saying that the clippers could have a better record than the Lakers. They could. Yes, I would be shocked. But I don't think it's zero percent possibility. Hammer of Telhami. Fool. This is sports radio weei. Just me. Okay. These are the hot picks. We curate this chart. We tell you what these good songs are. We don't wait for sales. All right. Let's see what's coming in at number five number five. It's how he's pick little peep with sex with my axe. For the. Jake. I think you would like to sell them. It's all soothing like this like every track sounds like this. I picked to show randomly because they all sound like this. That's great. Yeah. Of course, we lost. We lost a little peep this past year. And if you listen to this album, you will be a suicide risk or a death risk is. Well, it's very depressing. He tackles a lot of intense subject matter to him. I'm old. Damn daniel. I'm sorry to hear that sounds like a creed riff or something in the background. It's. Yeah. Blend of of. Oh, yeah. Good amid it is. It was man. Shooting. Or even that guy still around and gone. Life isn't fair cheddar huggers winning. All right. Well, I wasn't. I don't stand behind that one a lot. But I figured we lost peop-. Let's let's throw him on the counter. That's nice or let's see people. All right peop- like that. I got all right peop-. All right. Let's see if anyone could top that. All right coming in at number four four four. It's Amir's pick Travis Scott with sickle. To countdown. Maybe no. When is my Donald product. That's just Saudi knows. You don't know about the now. That will take the telephone. Yeah. Keep it going little bit. Complete inching you to pick and roll. Well, it's a new song within the song this this this out goes. Which one do you like better? That's the best part. That's the best part. This is Travis Scott. Compl- related to the drink part. And then after this like three minute chunk. It goes back to Drake. You don't think the Sean veers off course, we just did a preemie stream our other char we did about psalm said start one way and then lose the plot. And go into a whole new song. I think they're embracing a completely different song within a song. It's like an Oreo or. Okay corn dog. Okay. Yeah. But couldn't it also be considered like a blister on a foot, of course. And that's why I now eight it. But this is the and they don't they never wrapped together. It seems like all Drake then Travis got for three minutes. And then it goes back to Drake again. I say, oh, I'd like to see some interplay like EPSN EPS, they'd go back and forth. It wasn't like you do your thing. I'll come in next week. I'll do mine on you know, I like when they mix it up. Yeah. It's like when they brought arrested development back, and they couldn't get them on the. Yeah. Room at the same time. That's right. That's why I had the boycott. The song. Arrested. Okay. Sure. Looking number three. That's a pretty good pick. I liked it. And it's got a great song. Rattled psalms one. That do that. Like, I have anything recently changes. Yeah. Daily, but whatever this research. So it sounds like Drake's about to start wrapping. And then it just ends actually just told them they paid them for a full verse. And they just cut it off. But then they come back to them. Paid him for the full. Yeah. Hey, we gotta get our money's worth spit. A few more. All right. Let's head number three. It's Jake's pick Cardi B with like it. Thank dotty. That's a couple of the coupe. No bicker. That's hard as k b. Fix. Coty Fundus select corio g put this to you jacomb here. She the most talented reality show person of all time letter than flava flav for sure really played. It was great. But does before the reality show, Harry we counted celebrity apprentice because might be most more successful as the leader of the free world sort of. Yes. Well, technicalities his Blake there. Yeah. I don't I run this shit like cardio. That's a really good. Uh-huh. Josh has to hate her. Right. Oh, absolutely. She's a first challenger. She's had in her whole entire rain. But it sounds like she's doing Nicki Minaj impression has a little bit of a little bit. I think she I think she brings her own thing too. Which is what makes her a fierce competitors? There's like two female rap rappers. And there's a thousand guy rapper all of them. They on the same to you just a sex just called you sexist. I can hear the hinting at it on. You are not a sexist of Cardi B shows her voice based on Nicki Manashe. Maybe she was an influence because she lived in New York. She heard it all the time. Maybe so, but but I do think that she's not just a straight up impression you could. I could tell the difference. I could tell what Cardi Briggs she has a more Latin obviously. But also her lyrics. What's the other one? She's a she's a better writer. She's a better writer like her stuff is more immediate. And it's more about actual real things years a lot of Nikki's during characters he's doing a lot of like type of rap. She's just like you could tell us not about anything real. I'm the Queen bitch. And then mean this. It's like it's a Muffin or something. Yeah. Exactly. No. Oh, I remember. When weirdly silent after you went too far. I was picturing it. Unwrap fair though that is good writing. Yeah. Hell. And made all of us think deeply I love any type of Muffin writing fiction. All right. Let's see. All right. What's coming in at number two. Number two. It's my pick white denim with performance. We often. Bet they live right here on caves wrote up telling you, I know from the the twin ju what they're doing. They're southeast Austin, south west. See now when I brought white men before they were our slammed because they they sounded like t Rex in that song. This is the same lint nothing like directions, slam still sure the sound like. This one's a little. Steve Miller had a head injury. Yes. Brilliance lamb. He does a good band. They have a little bring a little too much of the noodling Lowell jam bandy. But it did bring some variety to the chart. They have a song that starts with the solo made me think bream strain. Oh, yeah. All right. All right. All right. Number two coming at number one number one Brett's pick. What do you got? Okay. I got a Nico case with last line of Albion. This interesting stuff going on behind her voice. That's really cool. So. Great. Thank you. That's very good. I know people that people that are nego case fans, die hard Nico ks fans. Oh for sure she's coming here before she recorded her. Well, Joe is it was it based on a few. Yeah. Wow. Jeez. Just going to sniff. No kidding. Hey, you guys go to the crushes on any new Artis any Li any whatever a female artist crush if you. Yeah. Other than Nico case other than Decaux shit. I I I still have a crush on Cardi B, and that singer from churches, oh, they were also near weeks ago. She had a crush on that lady for a long time. What about the Muffin? Nobody's going for Katy Perry and nobody's going for teeth with Todd. I'm over that. No, they're retired. And we're looking to get wired. Oh, so they're not they're not current and mine answer is Shinto Connor. Because the truth to me berry. This is that the same band as what we just heard. No, okay there who is that is it like. Is it like monsters of men or something? Oh, right. Yeah. Yeah. Of monsters of monsters and men, that's what it the ice Landik band. Well, I'm gonna have to pick a winner on this. For once thought mine. Be the last one. I'll pick it. Yeah. Yes. I don't wanna slide our guests. But I am going to pick Nico case. Thank you. And you would like the lyrics to about animals getting revenge on humans like to. Yeah. I. What did we do to them? TV left at giraffe to burn up alive in the fire. Was there a giraffe died? Outer oh, there's like a big thing raft. It was stranded at a zoo in Malibu. Wines. Oh, the winery they took all their expensive cars, they made sure to get those out of the way around. The horses and all the animals super fucked up, but they survived I know horses horses down up there. Yeah. Some people just brought their donkeys like to the beach and just let Packers and stuff just like leashed up on the beach because they didn't know where to put a finger. Figured it was like fairly safe there. Yeah. Sands not gonna burn. What if it gets hot in the sun? If the tide rises than sharks, the donkeys you saw the Magar. Yeah. Twenty fire mental disasters. All right. I need another prediction from you. How many squirrels though when they when all the fires gone. How many how many char broiled squirrels will they find all say two per acre hundred thousand pleasure thousand two hundred two hundred squirrels two hundred thousand two thousand four hundred fifty three squirrels. Okay. That's your girls over under under I'll go under nineteen squirrels. How many squirrels that was seven hundred guesses. Well, of course, you guys do a great show, and you've got your patriarch page. We're people find your stuff though, head gum dot com is all of our podcast. Not just me. Jake. We got a lot of funny comedians with a lot of funny shows. So I think there's something for everybody at had dot com. And the females on your roster. No, we gotta get one. Oh, wow. Yeah. Yes. Of course, we have females are, Mr.. Yeah. We have Betsy Sadahro and MARCY Jinro. I've funny feeling we have meal who's does show punch-up jam with Demi lady Lovin is all lady hosts diverse ir truly. Yeah. Nicole buyer is a strong African American lady hosts she has want date me. Okay. So check out. There's there's got to be a show for everybody. And Jacob has a dungeons and dragons show, Jake. How could you? Yeah. I'm sorry. I wasn't going to say anything. What about third pokers at your competition who they play dungeons and dragons what the is not like magic the say. Yeah. I guess not formidable competition if you've never heard of it you just pulled. I don't I don't even think about you. I don't think about you at all. They're buddying us. What's the name of that show? Six sided die. It's called not another DND podcast. Do we are aware of all of the competition? That's right. All right. And what about social media? Do you want to send anybody over there? Yeah. My name is Jay Kerr with everything you could just Google me and follow me. Yeah. And then once you're at Jake's place, you'll see pictures of me. And then. Yeah. So Jake her with Instagram. My last post is probably a mere tag. You guys are tied together and the online universe and give me double tap. 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Mason and Ireland [HR 3]

Mason & Ireland

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Mason and Ireland [HR 3]

"Yes It is twenty twenty. This is the season premiere of Mason Ireland's Premier got all different stall new episode all new episodes including voting at some point a very special episode. I'll never do that. Yeah we well. We'll do it a very spent we we we all serious entire show. We've done very special episodes. Yeah always respected about Seinfeld. Zero very special about our lives differ segments for segments. Yeah we've ever done an entire tire Downer show. Now we've done an entire debt. Seinfeld never very special episode. Never anything where they tried to teach you a lesson or something with meaning. It was just basically making fun of themselves. Yeah that's true. Although I've had I've had very emotional shows here sure but not like the whole show even when you came out we didn't do the whole show. No no we didn't. It was just yeah in and so it L. At my dad episodes. What's yeah but those even then when our dads died because they died right next to each other we didn't do? We did like segments right which I think should always do. Nobody wants tune in at us to get serious for three three and a half hour. Oh God no speaking of which okay. So how much football do you to watch this weekend. all of it. I watched all the football all right. So we're great games. Climbs everything close. I have never. I've been watching football since I was a little kid. I've never seen worst decision making then then at the end of that Houston Buffalo Game I literally befuddled by it all right so buffalo is driving to try Ryan get the tying phyllis they're basically in field goal rain right and Josh Allen who had been great the entire jail apart takes a sack on secondary secondary so now they're like bordering on field goal range but they can still do it he takes a sack on third down so now it's a sixty yard field goal with like three minutes left. They're down three. Its fourth and twenty seven. Yep So thinking in my head okay. There kicker has made a fifty eight yarder. This is to tie a playoff game. May want to give them a shot to do it. But if is not pundit you still have all three of your time outs and stop them and then stop. You'll get the ball back and you'll have a chance to get back into field goal range and it's not fourth-ranked orange twenty-seven they go for it on fourth and twenty. Sean McDermott to coach. I mean she shown explicable guys get fired for stuff like this then he takes another sack. Yeah Josh Allen takes another sack on fourteen which makes zero sense even if you throw the ball hundred lately back in yourself okay. So the the buffalo has now because of bad coaching lost a game but wait Houston gets the ball yep and they. They're running plays to force buffalo to call their timeout and its fourth in one okay. Buffalo cannot score. They're going backward it off all right. So you're Houston it's fourth and one from the fifty. Okay Yeah you'll be making them gripe eighty yards or forty yards over. These are offenses a mess. At that point they go for it they go for it and they they run the dumb up the middle play. That all coaches do you too much. Yeah take it stopped. Buffalo gets them all basically at midfield. Complete two passes kicks field goal game overtime. I've never scene two decisions like that back to back. That made as little or something seven stupid as those two McDermott's again he's very well regarded. You might be coach of the year provoke. Buffalo had a great year integrate year. He's the guy that played against the charger. And I think Josh Allen is going to be a really good quarterback here too. I think he had the best weekend of any of the losing quarterback quarterbacks but the the best loser well but thinking about the the losing quarterbacks played pretty good. Yeah I mean. Drew brees wasn't great And radios okay. Yeah gesture now get thrown in there and couldn't do how is it cheap shot by the way the shot on Carson. The clowning Davey and cloudy now. If he was playing college probably would have been e. Jack dove down twisted himself and made a helmet to helmet hit Yeah that but those those two decisions made. I don't know if coaches just get freaked out because it's the playoffs or date. They think fourth twenty-seven I have to go for it right McDermott's the guy who played Nathan Peterman against the chargers in Carson WH- Peterman threw five interceptions in the first half Yup and he wouldn't put tyrod Taylor learn the game so I think he just gets a streak stubborn in a mini can't cure and and and there's GonNa be a lot of conversations about coaching you if you weren't with US earlier the rams decided they're not bringing back wait Phillips As their defensive coordinator net there now in the market looking for Defensive Coach and coaching is never been more scrutinized. Yeah and and the rams are GonNa stay internal I think Joe Berry is going to be the The defensive coordinator. I wouldn't be shocked. Act if they went out and got somebody that's more experimental but let's see yeah let's see Because the defense was not the issue this year for the rams it was really the case. So there's thirty the defense by the way the cowboy game is the game at all. The season fell apart. Wait a minute I. I don't think it's that simple. I said cowboys that's all right. We're cowboys I don't think it's that simple. I think that the one thing that thirteen and three rams at ten went to the Super Bowl even even the games they lost. They were competitive right. There were three games this year too at the Coliseum. Were the Amer in the Ravens right where they gave fifty. Yep they will I think forty eight to Tampa and forty five to the Ravens and then the cowboy game gave up another forty. Yeah so you I mean that's that's just but this surprise me there thirty teams in the NFL. Where do you think the rams ranked in defensive efficiency this year? I think that a thirty fourteenth ninth did they. Yeah so they weren't off. I guess it all depends on how you measure because I looked at the in total defense from next Gen stats. They were number twenty right but I think those three blowouts is what. Dylan's weighed in right that you know you can't you can't think of a forty eight points at Tampa at home. I mean there have a nationally televised game against the Ravens were. You don't show up the Ravens Forget it the niners forget it they they were not in those games. They were not close in those cases they were never in games. Totally disagree about the Niner's the number one the nine or so class in that game. Okay that that Game Jared Goff Mr Wide Open. I can't remember if it was higby Gerald. Everybody missed him but they they lost twenty two nine all right the game in San Francisco against the niners they had certain rate in the game. Patch San Francisco. Maybe that could save Wade. If they don't give up to third and six six grains correct They do that. I mean if I go back I mean and you know I flashed through this season because nine and seven and now making the playoffs is really a bummer. Right but I mean the Tampa game here of Seattle. Go Away from Seattle Field Goal They were jared Goff Turn the ball over twice. They went down twenty one. Nothing in the Tampa game The call in the Pittsburgh game where Jared Goff. I don't think is I think his arm was moving forward. They ruled it wasn't turned into a scoop and score. I mean they're you can dial al.. Okay that's what I say I project forward with the rams free second. This is a weird question yup in in the NBA. The answer no matter who the player is would be yes. It's a little harder than the NFL. But is todd girlies contract tradeable. Know what about this. What about for another? You know if you do a dance of the lemons for example like Adam gays does not want levy on bell and he's got four years left on his I would I would if I was the rams I'd make that trump in Bella still totally totally useful. Hold on running. But you'd be taken on Salary Levian Bells Contra and it's not like the NBA were i. It's it's different and the other thing is you hear about contracts and you say it's the the the term you need in the. NFL is how much dead money is on a contract. You hear all the time guy signed for one hundred million none. None of that matters. It's the guaranteed by the counts against cap rancher. These dead money number is about fifty. Milligrams have an opt out on the girlie contract after twenty twenty twenty one. Okay so what you WanNa do is find another team. That has somebody that they don't want that they owe a boatload of money right it. Is this kind of a wash. I mean Todd Gurley ran for seven hundred and Change Levian. Bell ran for seven hundred and change their kind of the same guy Todd Gurley did of I think eight touchdowns right and data Levian bell and it's going to be a hard contract to move but running backs. Are you know that's why nobody pays running backs running backs get beat up and get cut cut down and you got to move on and I saw les needs that. I don't regret the contract of Syria. I mean he has to got to and I actually think he probably regrets the contract. Jared Goff Yeah I mean you waited a year and you didn't I I mean I think what the Eagles could've done with the cowboys did. Yeah but I think the US with the Carson wentz contract and the rams with Jared Gov con Contract may have moved to early on both those. Yeah you would have gotten jared Goff at a much better number and now here's went with another season ending injury which is at each of his first. First two seasons. Yeah so that it's it's tricky. I think the rams need to make the playoffs next year or else then then this what happened today to wait. Phillips Potentially trickles into the front office so I mean I think they're not but they were one field goal away. Line is normally money in the bank from tennis. Think of it this way. They went twelve and four thirteen and three nine and seven. Yeah they've not had a disaster and both the Seattle Game Seattle and the Niner game in San Francisco could have very very easily win. Yup could've gone teams if think about last year. They won all those close games this year. They just went the other way. Do you like now i. It's man it's a coin. Flip up particularly in the NFC. I'll tell you next. I got an idea but I'll tell you next. Yeah I know the the right answer. I'll tell you next Mason Ireland. ESPN LA. Hey it's Monday. It's twenty twenty by the way definitely check out the new calm. Tom App endorsed by Stephen a Smith. Because nothing's getting isn't because nothing says meditation. Attention like says calm like Stephen. I thought that was a Saturday night. Live sketch even for called. FRY GONNA get in trouble for that but screw it. Well you know. It's like you're vase last year on doing last last contract last contract it it is it is interesting that it it all depends on where you work. Yeah Okay I played golf with James or the other day and he was telling me that Charles Berkeley says stuff on. TNT sure that he could never say on spectrum and if we set it on ESPN we would probably get suspended for example. I can say this was now. Wait a minute for example. You said we'd get suspended you'll see but this is not me saying it. I've been told by the away if something offensive happens I should not speak. I should get up and leave the room. Okay you can decide whether or not you want to get up and leave the room again. This was not me. Newest Charles Berklee. The Pistons played a game in Mexico City. Yup and they didn't show for the first half like they just got blown out in time. FARC Lee said it again he can get away with this and other people can Barkley said Ernie Charles. What'd you think of the first half Berkeley goes well? I got some friends in Detroit and all I can tell you is. They're hoping that they hurry up. And build that wall and maybe leave the Pistons on the other side falls through now. That's a good. That's a good line but you can't say here. No okay. That's it but that so if in some places you're able to have a license to ridiculously lose now did you watch the Ricky Gervais. Monologues unlocks Weinstein unbelievable. Unbelievable thing was the shots of the people in the ideal time hanks comfortable they were anxious had his and and then they would just cut back to Germany and he said I'm not doing this anymore doesn't matter matter. He had a beer on. Thank your agent. Thank your God and get the F.. faulk we don't WanNa hear any political statements and then like the first thing Russell Crowe wins and they read a political. He's brilliant brilliant man. He is brilliant. All Right so oh yes so. We're GONNA do this super bowl now. We've we've done eight teams. Yeah I think we're down to eight or sixteen now. That doesn't make any sense. You're down ever SAGANA foreign each conflict. Okay four so there's total of eight okay so new to this math. I think Baltimore's going I mean to. I think I think the Ravens are going. I'm all in on Baltimore. That's the best team I saw year. What's interesting is there will be? No Tom Brady. And no Ben Rothlisberger in the Super Bowl. Yeah who's the last. AFC quarterback to is it flacco to win win the super double other than Brady or Rothlisburger. Think it's FLACCO hassles lack. Oh Yeah Yeah. So the Mark Jackson. But but like who's left. Lamar Jackson the Home Ryan Tannehill Tannahill and who we leave it out. We're leaving out to Shawn Watson. Yeah I mean so one of those guys is going to be in the super bowl yet so I I think I think it's on our Jackson. I think Baltimore too. I'm all in on Baltimore now. The harder one to figure out is the NFC. I'm picking the upset here. I Hate San Francisco. I hate him. Kirk cousins no. No it may not be Kirk. Cousins knocks him out. But it will be Russell Wilson. I'm rooting for Seattle. And I picking Seattle really yeah. I'm picking Seattle. You go into Green Bay and win yes I do. I I have Russell Wilson versus Lamar. Jackson is a great super bowl. You know what Russell Wilson's record on the road is this year no eight and one the okay. Okay see you know where the one fact somewhere the one was. No you were there. Oh yeah was coliseum sir. I mean. They've just been. It doesn't matter that they plan they win. Everywhere the what after all is said and done probably we my second favorite team in the NFC is Seattle. Because because of Peop- I dislike Pete that's blasphemy. What is wrong with you know I? I've I've always in the same division. Oh but I I like Pete. raisman Manley was the coolest guy in a little email to his school. Now has clay Helton and and Mike Bone of course. Plus if Tommy lasorda went to the giants for some reason and giants this thing about I I don't i. I consider the niners to be a gigantic rubber. However I don't consider I don't consider illegal rivalry pete always treated a so well good guy? It's hard hard to not like Pete Carroll person over team never go nothing Reggie Bush knew absolutely nothing about horse not and and and as far as you're concerned neither did pete neither neither the the thing about the NFC is there's really no clear cut dominant team. I right the niners. You could totally see them losing. Yup You could see Green Bay. Lose in. Green Bay has not green based on fire at all Seattle's great on the road and now they have to play. Well you know what they could get the game at home if they Minnesota win. They get him. And I don't rule Minnesota. I think Minnesota could be San Francisco. Hey Big Game Kurt Doc. How one in really in his case one play can totally change your reputation that throw e put? That was a chimney to Adam. Phelan APP hype in the Air Right into his arm. I mean and then boom they get it in but but it just seems to me that the NFC is completely wide open Your your Seattle pick is not crazy but headache. Think it's probably Ravens niners. You like that you know that is why you mason. You've never heard that. No what's wrong seat all my gosh. That's kirk cousins. So going Kirk though. That's right when Kirk cousins was the quarterback in Washington. Yeah they had a big win at Carolina and he was walking by world media is camped out Yup and he told the story and Dan Patrick Show this morning. He said that he was super criticized size when they gave him the starting jackets everybody was in love with. Rg three and they said he goes to be honest with you. People didn't like me but I figured they would like that. They'd like the fact that we went on the road and Carolina so he did that in front of all the cameras and it just Kinda stuck and now they have cameras everywhere including inside the locker room so when he walked in last night after they won in New Orleans. Oh you got it all your t right twenty points a chance at the end but I got three words awards for you. I was really happy for cousins. He seems like a genuinely good guy. Hi who got overpaid. I know they paid them too much. Money guys like to see if you get overpaid. Yeah Castle Delaware. Viking fans are really down on digs Monta run. Yeah it might be worth every a penny he seems you know. He still drives a van that he inherited from his grandmother while he's like married first time. Yeah he's one one of those guys so I could see them winning in San Francisco Rams Fan from the time when I was a kid so I hate the Vikings. I hate the Vikings because of when I was a kid niners. The niners are the team that I raised rang. Hey but I also I hated the Vikings in the seventy s because they would always beat the rams when made them in the weirdest ways when it makes a little complicated for us as we used to work for John. Lynch's Dad. Yeah so we know young John a little not well but we know him. I hardly know him at all. And he's a good dude I met him watch and And and so it's John John Lynch even know who you are. That's a good question. Did I think so just because we were there for so long. But he wouldn't be. It'd be able to pick you out of a lineup. No no no. We haven't this discussion the other day. How many bill? Bill MacDonald Ni- discussion yet. You lineup the current Laker Ross. Kemp till toddler John. I walk out and stand in front of how many of them know our names. Lau were you would know better than I. I don't know what your interaction is as I mean I've been on on the team plane. I know you guys sit in the way back as my mom used to say with the station wagon you sit in the way way back which is still great. Yeah Bill Bill. Immediately goes is zero zero. I think he's wrong. I think coups would now. We've known him covered you know from. I think Lebron would know 'cause he's super smart. Yeah yeah he is. And then. My guess is Caruso who seems pretty perceptive yet would would probably know. Jared Dudley knows who we are. Do you think they would know. May from Media Day interviews you. The answer is zero's were some memorable media day anarchy as a one person. The one person who might is Lebron. Because you're from Ohio. You mentioned your mom. I say hi to my mom yeah. He's a sponge and he's super smart so believe it or not. If one person was going to get it it would be. You would be Lebron. Yup All right so hang on Friday. We're doing a block party. Three o'clock commerce casino. You can Join me and who me and who brand him. Let's go. We got the big names. James Cameron Sqi for a block party. Commerce casino will be broadcasting live from three until five o'clock at the arena. Sports Bar Bar Commerce Casino located seven miles south of downtown. La Off the five where the game rains with over three hundred tables. Get in on all the action from easy feedback to Twenty-first-century blackjack hold him and more commerce casino. This Friday we're going to watch Lakers Mavericks on Friday and again Dan be there to meet Ryan Kaminsky all right. We couldn't get Ramona. No she's not going to a remote. Come on Ramon Ramon is go to commerce for not to roast you. You should ask her nicely. That'd be a nice treat the tree to drive to commerce true assessment. Nice treat for everybody. That's how fast track is next Mason Ireland. ESPN LA all right. I official fast track of Twenty Twenty Mason. It's an Ireland show for the brand new season. The Premiere episode and John C Miami of Ohio Leads Louisiana Zhanna right now seventy three in big trouble. No I've only five minutes to go in the second I've got were Niamey. Plus fifteen th that you have minus V. No I have Miami plus fifteen. I'm in great shape in Europe Lynch side of the coin. I win my first bed of twenty twenty the other side of the coin. Miami collapses. I'm competing against you tales Miami Collapses Laura what is it did you hear tales. Yes so that's Laura She's new congratulations relations figuring out how to turn your mic on. which was an issue the other day but are how long you've been here? I going on two months going on too much. Why I I just meeting? You haven't been here for two months. Okay good good. All right. Aren't lost. Track Greg. Got It right okay. I'll start with this coach. Oh fifty year old Ed ordure on is maybe the best coaching story in all of sports this year leading. LSU To an undefeated record thirteen now your number. One ranking spot as the favorite in the national championship chipped USC head coach. Oh yeah but. They didn't think he could handle being the church head. Coaching passed him over. Even Lsu was rumored to Tom. Herman to replace place less miles before Herman decided to go to Texas and LSU settled for coach. Oh yeah as their second choice. It was hard to see this coach showing up. He was ten in twenty four right at Ole miss in his first head. Coaching gig Nice runner. USC He went six and two at USC before being passed over then six thousand two at Lsu before almost being passed over again. So I have a weird question I want you to listen. This for people who've never never heard coach speak pay attention to his voice. This is his actual voice. Greg give us a little coach. Oh everything's online and whatever things on the line I believe in a team but you know we don't make the game later this. This is an important game for us. Obviously to get women WanNa go when we take it a one game at a time. Okay right. So here's my question. Do you think ed or girons voice. The fact that he sounds like a cartoon character held him back in anyway. Anyway or do you think it was strictly as record. That kept him from getting to the top sooner than he did. I think his voice was pardoned. I do too too hard to take serious right and there's a little bit of being easy to caricature and let me point this out. He is a great rain guy. Great Guy and what people like we say this about Clay Helton clay on a great guy and when somebody is a really good guy for whatever reason you think will. Maybe he's not tough or he's not serious but can you imagine. USC would love to have right now and Lsu. If they had had Tom Herman Tom. Herman went seven and five this year. Yeah I mean well. He said coach always very easy to be happy for into root for now that he's working thinking about coach. Oh two is he's. He's a an unbelievably great recruiter right unbelievably good recruiter. And by the way if you've ever seen the movie the blind side yeah coach. Oh plays himself in that movie. He's the one who got Michael. oher gap the kid in the movie to go to Ole Miss. He had the inside track. Both of his parents had gone to old miss so he was a legacy but coach. Oh plays himself does a good job as chat all right in. The world of fitness brands are increasingly employing digital tact tactics to to attract new recruits in the classes that succeed in bringing strangers closer together seem to be doing the best among the developing field. One class has emerged as more extreme than the others others. Certainly a name. I'll say at once it's this. It's the skinny bitch. Collective now controversial highly selective. It's a British exercise is reserved Class reserved for the elite Russell. Bateman is behind it. A former writer turned personal trainer. He claimed the name of the female lonely fitness group was meant as a term of endearment a former. SBC member emphasizes how difficult it is to get in. You can't just turn up. I'm pretty sure they looked at your instagram. I am followers. You have to email. Say exactly why you WanNa go etc Why do we have? Why do we create these elitist gems and exercise programs and doesn't Abboud Z.? Jim Actually started defeat. Its purpose No no here's why you do it. Creating the illusion of exclusivity has always sold this. Did you watch any of the documentaries. He's on the fire festival. Yes the one in the Bahamas. Yes that was basically watch both of them. Yeah I did too. That was basically if you haven't seen in. There's one a Netflix one Hulu Lou. What this organizers did he was a con man was basically got the hottest models he could find to do a commercial saying? We're all going to be at this party and it's GonNa have concerts and exclusive waterfront accommodations. And it's GonNa be great and then just took people's money and never produce result right. I was an unmitigated disaster. People showed up down in the Bahamas. He tried to save it last minute. And it turned out to be a bunch of dodd matters fall prey to exclusivity and they try not to. I think it's so SNOB. I didn't go. Well hold on you do it and you didn't even know okay. Tell me where I do it. With your Ram season tickets. They date the soldier the highest level of access to get you the best seats in to get you into clubs and stuff like that and you paid more for it because you you knew you. We're getting exclusive benefits. I told you long time ago. I said once you got into business or first class you would. You'd probably get into everytime coach to Costa Rica right but I know got it now. I'm aware of it and I was able to use miles to fly one time but I won't. I won't pay for a lot of people will. Yeah I know a lot of people well when you get a taste of that lice. Oh frigging expense. And so that's why it's I don't think this gym is in is necessarily going or this program. This exclusive program is going to be the any more helpful or better for you than you would be. Just going to Gold's gym in. Venice bought the fact that you think it is right. Maine's they can market it and it's not and you can get you can sell the exclusive Jim in La now Ucla Hills for anybody can join right. Yeah Yeah it's Pricey I'm trying to think if there's there it's more like can you get in with an elite trainer like the Lakers strength conditioning coach. Gunnar Peterson has very practice. That he trains Kate Beckett sale and Jennifer Aniston and that you know that world of people right But so but but he produces unique results. When I'll tell you one thing I I also think an element of this is the idea of being in a class right up because there's a there's a group energy that happens when you're in a class whether it's a yoga class or God bless you twenty-three-year-old women who are going to a soul cycle? There's a vibe that happens when you're in a group or in a class and it sounds like that's also part of the appeal here fouls chack all right amaze name. Leanne Ashley is a thirty year old instagram model. That until last week had a live in boyfriend she no longer does. Because because of an Apple Watch nailing says quote one day I was home and he was washing his truck outside. I saw his Apple Watch going off buzzing in buzzing and buzzing egg curious because they saw a small square that looked like a picture of a girls but in underwear so I opened it she. She discovered he'd been messaging girlfriend of several months side checks his ex and that he'd been meeting with multiple prostitutes. Joyo hello So here's my question. Let's say you're a guy listening to this right now and you have an Apple Watch okay. You have an apple what I do. Would you continue to keep it or would you get rid of it. Knowing you your private life could be exposed At any time not necessarily that you're cheating like this guy did right but it's very easy if you take your watch off and throw it on the counter and you people over that they could see things that you wouldn't necessarily want the MRIs nothing interesting. I can tell them either I at the slightest bit interesting. My wife has all my passwords. One has all my passwords and vice versa. There's nothing going on but got greg would you Do you have anything to hide. Get rid of the Apple. Watch snow I can put my phone down and put. She has my password to my phone whenever she wants right. I would think though if you're listening to this and you're like this guy and if you're if you're if you're messing around technology can get you tiger woods. You know big mistake should never an apple watch. Would've done him in. He would have been caught years earlier. No one got. I forgot how to do. The data into that goings. New Star. Liner capsule could not dock with the international space station after a software glitch caused it to launch into the wrong orbit minutes after blasting off on. Its first test flight. I was Boeings. Chance to catch up with SPACEX NASR's other commercial provider. NASA has opted to shift on how it operates instead of owning the hardware. It now hires private a bit. Companies to take over NASA has ordered Boeing and SPACEX billions of dollars to develop made in the USA solutions. NASA says that by early next year they're going to be launching American astronauts on American rockets from American soil again for the first time since the space shuttle shut down in two thousand eleven now NASA has been exploring space on its own for years. Is that a good idea to privatize our space program. or The upsides downsides and how important is it for us as humanity to continue exploring space. If you study the history of space exploration what you learn is it's not necessarily conquering occurring space. But it's all the things that we've gotten from it. Yes for example titanium was invented in the space program and now we use titanium for safety ours ars in your foot and then my golf driver and you know every everything else So I have no problem with either of the things you asked about. I have no problem with them. Privatizing privatizing it. I think that that means you get all the best ideas and you just you use the open market to to find out who has the best stuff yup and yeah I would continue to explore space because other people are going to explore it and who knows what's going on up there. There may be a whole alien life form. That's looking at US ready to take us out like in the movie movie Independence Day. We got to be ready for these guys ready. Exactly yeah the things that have been invented because of space stu- stuff you don't even think of like scratch resistant. I glass land rights or the cat scan or led lights a bunch of different kinds hypothetic shoes. All kinds of stuff has been developed. Because I think it's important to get out there. I personally think it's important that we get to Mars. Heck Yeah I wanNA meet the Martians. Yeah I I know I want to figure out if Dennis Rodman is really from this plan. I'm pretty sure there may not be life there now but I think there was life there. Heck yeah might be right now might be a mason in Ireland going on on Mars. How does that change the world if we find out that there was life on Mars? I'm glad that it happened when I was older. I don't want to be. It's too crowded down here already. I always always wonder what it means. Wouldn't it bring everyb- like I always think if like a An alien race landed on the planet. Yeah don't you think we would all have have peace really fast. No wouldn't we all be on the side welby overcrowded more male than we are. Now fighting. Earth You know we'd be fighting them. We'd all be fighting getting the same battle. One that is Independence Day right we all we all got together all right more fast next for you Mason Ireland. ESPN LA yeah Rolling on with fasttrack in Ireland Steve False Tack Mace Win The NBA released the first round of all star voting results. Last week there were two big surprises in the West Lakers guard. Alex Caruso is eighth ahead of guys like Devin Booker and John Moran In the East Celtics Seldom use center. Seven foot six inch Taco Fall Taco full has played a total title of eleven minutes. Not Eleven minutes per game. Eleven minutes was fifth ahead of guys like Andre Drummond and Gordon in Hayward Michael Thompson says you can't vote for these guys because it would be a mockery and they would be embarrassed if they win. I I say it's an exhibition game. And guys like that somehow got voted in. It would be great. Yeah what say you well the first of all I think it's awesome awesome. Landers Sam why people would vote for Caruso and TACO fall The only thing that bothers me is don't some guys get a bonus for making shared artem. Yeah for those guys. I feel sorry if you were to. You know if you had a bonus in your contract and Alex Caruso went instead of you. Well let me let me okay. Let me provide some clarity. The top two guards in the West. He's he's not getting anywhere near. I mean it's Steph curry is a head of him and Steph. Curry hasn't even played in a game this year. But the top two guards are Luca. Danni who is the leading vote-getter on the entire our league and James Harden who's right behind him so curses five hundred thousand rows behind this because so he won't get voted in. I just think it's kind of a cool story and Caruso Russo place hard and Taco fell. People WanNa see these guys. They're not GONNA win. But I have no problem if anybody votes for him. No Michael's like come on airline. It's a mockery. It'd be embarrassing. Is Your Campaign for Alex legally vote. NBA Dot Com right now and vote for by the way. I'm voting for him right. Now let me give you some other ones Dwight Howard tenth vote for Dwight Howard vote for Dwight Lebron and a D. or one two yup. And since you need a fifth guy and his you know his name rumors be nice and vote for coups. Yeah Oh give give them some good news there. You go all right fast track let me see. What do we got here all right so many? NFL players battled with the flu this season including Lamar Jackson. The flu virus disease Continues to spread across the US millions of illnesses estimated for the centers honors for Disease Control and prevention according to the CDC three point seven million had the flu and it has not even spike jet The CDC says that nearly two thousand people have died from the flu. So far experts are encouraging people to get the flu shot. And if they if they still haven't the CDC says the vaccine seen a safe for anyone over six months of age now Few questions did you Have you gotten the flu this year. No have people in your life gotten the flu this year Jekyll sick. I don't think I would call it. The full born flew more like a like a bad head cold and explain once again why you do not believe in the flu shot okay. I've Yeah I've had in my life. Probably three flu shots K All three times. I got sick from the flu. Shot and I know that Eh medically those. That's a fluke but as a flurry for three using dead virus right taking causing I get the flu shot. Then I get the flu so I said I'm going to see what happens if I get no flu. Shot and that's been going for about fifteen years now and I haven't had the flu yet. Yeah I cannot imagine not getting the full grade. Do you give flu shots. Never now my life I reply. I just don't want you. I don't WanNa get a shot for something that if I don't get sick enough yes once. Laurie shots I got in. I got the flu. I'm out. Yeah she's like me. Well there are lots lots of different strains of the flu and you're only getting protected against some of the right but I think for me once. Shame on me Foamy or shame on you. Fool me twice Shame on me at three times you go down I am going to. I am going to laugh. Okay I am going to laugh when you go down with the flu. How often seriously since we've been doing this show? Haven't I get sick sick. I just never happens the now. It doesn't mean it won't but I get sick well and you also like you. You don't play hurts. You're smart and if you're not feeling good you say why. Am I going to work. It's that load manage exactly managed. Okay Mesa since. It's the first show in the new year. I figured we'd start start with the alumni game a game. You're very good at. Here's how the game works. I give Greg Laura and Mace a name. They each get a different name all three of those his name's went to the same college. If you get it on the I guess you get two points if you get it on any of the other guests as you get one point first person to five points wins. We will begin again with Greg Greg. Your name Sunday night. Football announcer Al Michaels. UCLA incorrect Laura Homerun king although he's tainted Berry Bonds Just a school any school. USC USC NO MACE NBA leading escort. James Harden all now Arizona State Correct Act he says with firm conviction Arizona State and Mason is. Okay I got it from the second clue Barry Barry Bonds as you all right Laura you start this one basketball player Jamal Crawford. UCLA UCLA good basketball school. Mace Mace former one hand or a former pitcher. He still has one hand. Jim Abbott former one handed pitcher and and I thought he's still got one hand former pitcher. Jim Abbott I will say he went to Michigan. Wow Mason jumps out to a tune nothing Liam on all right mace. You go first this time. You take a commanding four zero lead. Dj Lemay Hugh Baseball infielder DJ. Lemay Hugh I will say. LSU Wow four nothing mason. Jason you know that that was a guest and I was just going. What's a great baseball school And Greg Yours was. Andrew Whitworth in lawers was shack back. There would have been okay Mason. No one has ever been skunked in the alumni game. Greg you need help. I've only had one guest. I know I know I get to third picture. Yeah exactly Oh man. Let me see if I can give you one. Easy One Okay Greg Golfer. Now I'm not getting this John John Daly we're we're we're might John Daly beef from probably somewhere in Texas so how about Texas. No no you already know it. Don't you know Laura Jerry Jones. The cowboys owner Alabama close mace or old friend. Billy Ray Smith Arkansas. That Ladies Ladies and gentlemen is the first sweep in the history of the alumni. Guests is nothing by Steve Mason. You have announced you're twenty twenty twenty presents with a thorn the you it is officially at the year other. Mary's Bergman you leaving the show after that. It's like Tom Brady. Leaving on a pick. Six go out of this terrible redeem myself ex. We owe me well. I got a lot. We'll play again next week. 'cause I've got like twelve L. things for that domination. So let's finish Greg we'll see if if you can turn your year around talk to a terrible start. We're going to play a little name. That tune Jimmy songs is a theme song potential theme song for a New Year. Okay and Greg you never good at this game so once last yet. It's always geared toward Ireland. He's better at music to say. Here's the eagles here is number one one. That is Michael Jackson. WanNa be starting something. WanNa be starting twenty twenty John's F.. One actually knew that one to song long number two well that that was actually recorded by sting but you you might have it as the Yang. Okay it stinks thing. Yes that's correct right so here comes that skunk. No one has ever been skunked in two games on the same day Kasan by the way brand new day. Okay here is song number. I want this more than anything. Ever number three. No no Greg Greg. Connie gonyea enjoyed by Konya Cognac. Here is some blow the game after this. That was crippling song number four on Justin Timberlands. Jt Dance dance this that and the last one. It's three for pride. Last one is worth two could have greg. You're still alive last two and a half. Here's song number five drag the Greg so Bob Marley Bob Marley spoon half two and a half for you know is sacred two and a half win by the way people one love. That's our thing for the one. Love is so stupid uh-huh Coming up next last night Lakers a way. Why did we make mythical money worth two and a half value at the end? I will get him out. She's soon bet feeding. Yeah we get into that. After the fact just a ruined night's coming up next Lakers a block party last night Twenty blocks in their game against the Detroit Pistons and and the Rams are making a change of defensive coordinator it's all coming up for you. Mason Ireland ESPN. Yeah it was a great trip. Great great break. Look who's here. It's about the way I wanNA. I WANNA point some out. Yeah so The Bob Miller awards are coming up at some Lamar assessment. Are they tomorrow. Okay so I voted each vote. I voted for Allen's Lihua and Lakers talk as best sports talk show in L. and yet he didn't get nominated that so Agu nominates. No no you will you vote and there's three finalists. There's three finalists. We make the finals. I think we were kept out because we've one too many years in a row. Is that right so we're not even a finalist. I don't think so but I don't know nobody told me pretty sure they don't know Wayne allyn switched to this microphone. The phone over here is that microphone is useless. the 'cause we we win that thing Willie Max getting like a lifetime. Achievement was old enough to get a lifetime achievement award. He's older new Zoeller me is. He really seems so young because he like he's Peter Pans and effort. That's true he does so Alan. How're the holidays for you? Good great man. A Lot Yeah got a lot of these games. John Working more than I think anybody in. La Watch the one One advantage I have over John. Is The road games. I'm just sitting here John. Well although Al and I will say this that over the years we've had many hosts of the pre-game show including Steve Mason There was Dave Shore. There was the cabinets on the floor. Sadat Sodano did it a couple years travis to every year travis all the aforementioned people every one of them it's a weekend I'm not working due to games you didn't we're GONNA weekend. I missed I was allowed. It was in my contract. I was allowed to miss two games right plus a weekend. No I worked the weekends. I worked every game except for two new that year. Alan have you missed a game this year. No and I definitely don't have a leash to miss any games so I will be good for you that we desperately need berry was such a hard ass about that. I was like not allowed to miss. I was allowed to miss two games and that was By the way breaking news involving the Weight Allen we wanted all that year the but that was that was twenty nine maybe not getting the contract and twenty nine. It was twenty ten. We didn't have an eight nine and ten did we. We know we didn't have but the year they lost to the Celtics Twenty nine ten season that that season was the first year we had the year they wanted against Boston. Right Right I'm okay so there is this if you if you don't guess right away. Did you hear the news today. That one of the Lakers is going to be in the same contest. Yeah Okay Mace. It's not necessarily the person on the LAKER roster. You would think you know this yet. I do okay No I I don't know fries me Will you know there were people lobbing Caruso. I know it's Dwight Howard. He he wanted in two thousand eight. Why twelve years ago he was in it in? Oh seven Oh wait and would that one of the longest between we should look this up Greg. You'll you look this up. Would that be the longest between winning the passages probably well. You're span to win it. Will you know they were years ago. And this year they were lobbying that the the the official dunk roster has not been set. But I thought Rachel Rachel Nichols had a great idea. Put Vince Carter in it. Fantastic right now would be great But I would. That would be the longest between winning the dunk title. Well and it also Carter is the only guy ever in the NBA. He was drafted in nineteen ninety nine so he p played in the nineties he played in the ought Ziashi paid in the two thousand ten's and now he's played in two thousand twenty only player ever to play in four different NBA decade. That's crazy and good for him. Yeah Yeah and you can still dunk with with authority. Are you surprised John. Dwight Dwight soon this all star game. I'm not I do white has been at. I've said anybody. He's asked me the biggest surprise of surprises more surprising than their twenty nine and seven more surprising than Anthony Davis playing later defensive player of the year than Lebron and with this renewed energy I thought to white might be good. He's been great day as and last night to another example of it last night they blocked twenty Mitch shots and five of them were blocked by the white and Mace. He probably had another six or seven that he altered that you know. He made people adjust their shots. So He's been he's been the best surprise on the teams you know who won the slam dunk contest last year. Either view any three of you. Do you know who was here. Was it sack. Zach Levine. No no because he doesn't see loan out his knee. Oh that's right. He was who did win last year. Right exactly that's a great question. I'm trying to think. Is it a name that we would know. No one of those eastern conference teams. NOPE team is it. Is it like someone like Derek Jones. Ah who is it. Hamadu Diet Diablo. Oh Yeah Oklahoma City but That's Aww you actually could put the roster of every team in front of me and I wouldn't have got it wasn't him. Yeah yeah that's not. That's not what matters so it's not a it's you don't necessarily make your name. Why don't you remember when Shannon Brown? Everybody wanted to get Shannon Brandon and but he was offended by it. He'd like guys don't want to be known. Just as a dunker you know they look at it as like limiting right. It's kind of like when you're a character actor how beat being pigeonholed into one role. Right right so They they th some people don't go into the dunk contest because they don't want to be labeled as that that's interesting 'cause I mean think of a back in the days you know it was Michael Jordan. Dominique that was I. I know they were more than just dunkers. But it's just amazing that that's the perception of this today back in the day to three point contest. Will Larry Bird I mean they they. I think okay Appreciated this The All Star festivities at least clay Steph. Still do the three point contest. But I'm surprised that you can make a name for yourself By one in the dunk contest. If you're Hamadu dealing by the way that you know Dominique Wilkins one five years apart. He wanted ninety five one thousand nine hundred for Dwight. That'd be fun to see Matt Win. I only can. I can only think of one laker ever to win it. You guys know who was one lady won the Slam Dunk Contest. Yeah now he wanted but he was on the sons. When you want right this guy wanted in a laker uniform on really Greg did you know before you look it up? Is I care. Oh I didn't realize he was in it. Oh you looked it up now I did. We Stop Balan. Yeah who isn't coby. Coby coby Oh my gosh. That's right and he did the I. I forgot that he did it. The Clipper who won it before Blake Griffin yet in front of you. Now I got in front of me showing. No the clipper that wanted before Blake Griffin wearing sweatpants wearing long pants. Andrey is it Brent Berryman bear. Oh yeah that's right Brent Barry did it yeah I forgot I. It's so funny. I guess it's not important anymore. I forgot Kobe was even in the slam dunk contest. I think it's not important anymore. I think it's fair to say what I would do with with the slam dunk contest. And I've said it many times YEP is if you go on Youtube and type in amateur slam dunk contests some of the dunks. That guys are running around around. The country are spectacular should at least be an amateur division so wait a minute. How about this though? Halftime at a lot of these games has gone kinda stale like occasion using. You'll get like the. She's still doing her job at half. Red Panda Red Panda. Yes you get back from a knee injury. And she's still kicking her head. Quick change with the clothes. Oh that's good that's good but how about this okay. You have a tournament you do it all over the country Yep and then you do at all thirty. NBA Cities You have the top ten dunkers come out at halftime that that that finishing the tournament and you pick one team then you have a dunk contest contest with those thirty guys and the guy who wins that gets one entry in the NBA dunk contest when people talk about it all the time right so you have all the NBA players. Yes and then this guy that won the tournament and I said to somebody at the NBA. I would probably win. I said why not and he goes well. The players wouldn't like the spotlight being offered them. I go I don't don't think so. I think they when you watch like Alan last night at the game. A guy hit a half court shot for one hundred grand at the end of the. Yeah the Mandalay Bay a big shot yeah jackpot so Mandalay Bay puts up one of the MGM. Hotels usually does at the shirts. Mandalay Bay puts up five thousand dollars a game and it just gets progressive throughout the year and last night it was for one hundred rand and throw a baseball pass. He shot his regular shots Jolla shop. He did a jump shot. His name was Evan Brooks. He was from La Habra. Greg I don't know if you can dig it up but Michael and I actually interviewed him at the start of the fourth quarter. I don't don't know if that's in the system or not. But we found him and and talk to him now. He's is kind of cool story so he lives in the Habra for Christmas Christmas. He bought his brother two tickets to a Laker game and his brother invited him. So we you know. His brother was thanking them from getting a cool. We'll give for Christmas so they went. They walk in last night and the Lakers. Select that shooter at random which you WANNA try and he says sure his brother. I tweeted needed it out. If it's the last thing I tweeted if you go to twitter account you can see the video of it. A they gave him a shot at it he steps up he nails it and the guy that he hugs is his brother who couldn't believe But the point was going to make was that. When that happens the Laker the players are normally really happy for that guy? I think that if a guy in amateur guy came in for a dunk contest and did well was there. One time when a guy did the behind behind the head lean back and throw it over the mascots too. Yeah Yeah it's a place but Iraq and we asked that guy we said we said. What are you GonNa do with the money? He said I'M GONNA pay off my student loans and helped my mom. No that's great and we're quick what he would probably get after taxes. What do you think sixty? Yeah yeah take forty three good bye. Congratulations Evan Brooks for good job man. don't spend it all in one place. Sixty thousand dollars doesn't go as far as they used to. Oh you did you fat okay. We'll play when we come back okay. Cool Mason Ireland. Alan Sleep is sitting in the star. Dr Of Lakers Talk Mason and Ireland. ESPN LA ESPN LA Mason. Ireland Allen was hanging out today Alan Sleep with the star of Lakers. Talk who I voted voted for to win the Bob Miller Award for best sports talk show and apparently didn't even make the finalists. Yeah you know we they tomorrow but I have no idea. I don't even more nominated. I don't think they know that the show exists. I know I voted. I there was an actual ballot and I did vote for you. You're allowed to vote for documents of five or something. I appreciate the most serious one of your five. You're one of my outer show station. So I mentioned last Sean. You this guy. Evan Brooks hit the shot y'all for a hundred grand. Here's Mike grabbed him. And here's what it sounded like last night while they sort out Michael. We welcome Evan Brooks to the radio. Evan when is the guy who just hit a half court shot at the end of the third quarter for a hundred thousand dollars. The Mandalay Bay big leaks shot Jackpot. Evan congratulations man. How are Ya John? I'm doing great right now. I feel like I'm dreaming. Soak okay where are you from. I'm from the Hobrough California not too far Orange County. I'm in Orange County and we're Michael Lives and where I'm from and now did you. You just came to the game tonight you. I had no idea you were doing this. No no not at all at somebody approached you and said you WANNA try this. Yeah Yeah for sure I do. I mean why not Would now when you realize what you got one hundred grand so you probably take them sixty or whatever I'll have to taxes. What are you going to do with the money? What do you think about Well first off. I'm I'm going to say. Thank you to Mandalay Bay for doing such an awesome event. But after that I think I'm GonNa Take Care of my college loans response to do. Oh that's great And then and you know just try to help out my mom myself you know. Make sure I keep the family afloat. Here's this by the Lakers. Sorry didn't mean to cut you off. And then they call charging Caruso Russillo. Detroit's going to get it back Evan. I noticed that there was a friend of yours or some debt was hugging you after the game. Is that who you came to the game with that is. That's actually my older brother. So today I I brought us to the game as a Christmas present to him. Wow are you gonNA spend money with him probably. Will you give the president a hammer. Amer did he give it to you. Well I actually gave it to him. I I bought US two tickets and I'll say we're GONNA go to this game. Have a good time. There's the Lakers on a breakaway curse. Oh Oh slam dunk and the place goes nuts. Timeout Detroit. Evan last thing for you is this. The first game you've been to a table senator. This year This is the second game I've been to this year. Why Bet you remember this for the rest of your life? Is this your phone blowing up. Evan it is it is visit. You're going to be on sportscenter all night long tonight my friend. Hey congratulations for Mandalay. Bay congrats for hitting the Mandalay Bay. Bigshot Jackpot taught and most of all happy new year. Evan thanks for being a Laker Fan. Thank you guys happy New Year. That's gotTa be the highlights the life. It's amazing what's the highlight of your life. Allen Dr Yeah. There's there's a proper answer this hasn't happened yet has an apnea. Yeah Hey what's coming up on Lake We have Same AMEX HOP on. We'll talk about this Just some of the rumors around the Lakers and and I think such interesting conversation. What What Room I? I have no idea what you're speaking of. That's that's interesting conversations. Just in general about the Lakers and obviously if If we think this roster as constructed is the way the Lakers will go color. We'll see if there could potentially be some changes to it and then And Begley from Sports Net New York. Kind of preview Lakers Knicks tomorrow. Continue Chat about This twenty nine seventeen see if we can make it thirty thirty minutes tomorrow. All right I have got to get to my car so I can turn the show on. WE'RE GONNA way I'M GONNA run a couple of extra promo the highlight of your life. I Mason I got good news and bad news. The bad news is the Louisiana orgin Cajun's have taken a ten point lead but the good news is Miami of Ohio is driving or coming on and you have how many points I've got fifteen point site site the mythical money first of the year Mason betting on his native state Miami of Ohio. He's got fifteen points right now. He's up by five. His Miami were down seventeen. Seven gives you a reason to watch this exciting barn burner of a game. It is eight thirty left in the third quarter so anything can happen. Oh aw I cannot wait all right see you tomorrow at three. We're back at three nine at noon. Stop bitching Mason. Ireland E._S._p._N. L._A..

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Thursday, October 4th, 2018 with Heather McMahan

The Morning Toast

1:11:06 hr | 2 years ago

Thursday, October 4th, 2018 with Heather McMahan

"Good morning millennials. Good morning, everyone. Good morning, Heather. Hi, welcome back to the morning toes. I am thrilled to be here. I am thrilled that you're here. The toasters are thrilled that you're here. The toasters have been like key, harassing you for months, trying to get you here they have. It's like I was working on the scene trying to get you hear that was just lost on them. Right, but everyone's happy cause today you are here and we are going to spill the t we're going to spill the team. We're going to tell you the news. He don't really need to know it, but you know, it could be helpful. You never know what you're going to talk about dinner tonight point and just quiz you just on everything that's gone on since last time I saw you when it's been two months. Exactly. And I know that because last time you were here, I was on my period and today I'm very, I'm about to storm her look at us to sinking or cycles. And last time I like you told me you were about to start to some. We're both staying regular Greece. We are seeing regular my breast circa gorge. So that's where we're at today. Happy Thursday have either. I realized that and it was like, I don't wanna say that. But you know what if outright, no, and I'm glad we should be really like more expressive and open about our cycles right now. I'm reading a book called the woman code right now and it's like, don't be ashamed of your ear. That's like the the new big thing is like, like trying to be more. I don't need to be so open about it. There are some things that should remain a mystery, but like Amy Schumer does like a bit in her stand up where, like the way you walk to the bathroom with a tampon is like hiding it shameful thing, and you know. Okay. I just I literally am always kind of bloated and like, and I'm always hungry all the time. So Jeff, my boyfriend never pick up on it. He's like, you know what I mean? Like we eat extra when you're messing, but he had just eat that way all the time since he'd never picks up on it. And I'm just kind of always manic, you know. Right. So he never knows. That's great. Yeah, they've got like fluctuation, right? If you're just nuts. Twenty four, seven, you're always on your period and so you know, living my truth. Yes. Well, we appreciate it. We'd love your truth and we're so happy to have you here. So glad to be back. I know it was like two months in the making, but I in so much fun and I just felt like we really vibe less time and we were just getting into the gossip. We really were what has happened in the last two months. Have you been up to? Are you moving to New York moving to Newark? Probably at the beginning of next year I was gonna move right before the holidays, but then I'm going to like Europe vacation. So it's like, this is stupid. I'm not going to move into an apartment and then you know, right Jays at and pay for in the apartment and then not live in the exactly well, Jeff Spang. For the apartment because I'm an unemployed actor. So gotta work that in a couple of hand jobs at a time. But yes, so I think we're gonna wait till the new year. So you know, when it's like January fifth and it's freezing and there's no apartments left in the city. That's what I'll be moving. I feel like that's actually it's a bad time to move physically because it's cold in like you have to stand on side and hold a couch, right? But I feel like not that many people move during that time. So there's actually pretty good availability. Well, you can get a good deal on an apartment, but there's like three literally three apartments in the city because nobody wants to move. So there's like three available, but you know me see Jeff, amending, they're good negotiators, but at the end of the day, like we're actually the ones who get the job done. Like if you ever want to buy or sell a house, you always take a woman. You know what I mean? The man may be writing the check. Let's two thousand eighteen please. We're making her own money. Yes, but my mom always said like the woman is the one who picks out the house. So I'm the one who's going to go in there and like negotiate with the landlord causing hamming. Yeah, a professional scene, but still seen trail actually, the worst negotiator. Of all time, he'll yeah, and my fiance's is really good at it. Right. He's almost like too good at it. Like I like sometimes it's like insulting, right? Like how you negotiate could be insulting to someone. So I literally, I can't even watch negotiation. That's how bad like I have to walk walkway and pretend like I don't know. These people get like sweaty, youngest, I get so nervous. See I thrive because I can't. Okay. So I've been really chipped for so long. I don't know if I can actually flirt. You know what I mean? But you gotta add like a little flirting element into it. Even if it's a woman, you know, you just kinda like it's a sales technique. You got to speak at their level. So if they're kind of soft, you gotta get down here and just kind of say, so the apartment you said was, what was it? Forty, five hundred. How about we signed a two year lease for four thousand and call it a day. Good deal. You gotta you gotta match their tone. Yeah. And you have to, it has to be realistic like you can't be like, oh, can we do thirty five hundred for no reason. But like you're eating them something with two years, right? That I that I could do still. That's something I need to get better at, but solely. But surely I used to be like the worst just like conversationalist. I couldn't even like try. Move my fight on the phone with delta, like it would give me anxiety. Oh, I'm the Queen achieving flights, not you just pretend start weeping. My uncle. He lost the leg liquid. You just talk about like missing limbs. People will shut down. Literally dealt unlike loyal to delta forever. So like nobody called delta and let them know that I've like lied to change some flights. We all have okay. But literally I'll just cause a scene and it's always like an animal who has no limbs left. You know, you just gotta go if you go. So over the top, they panic. I know it's like Tammy on the phone and she's like, Honey, we're, we're going to change it and they waive the fee and everything. Well, one time I need to move a fight for real because like there was a, there was a death and it just messed with my plans and they wanted the death certificate of the do that yet. I've even know how to get one like I wasn't lying. Right. And I find that I just ate the cost of the flight. Of course I do. And then it was like two hundred dollars change fee. And then it was like six hundred dollars to leave the next morning. Yes, you could bought a round trip ticket like literally Bora Bora. Yeah, for Jeepers. Yes. If you say there's a death, you actually have to show death certificate, but if you just say that like uncle, Larry got hit by a bus. Next thing, you know, there's blood everywhere. They don't question it. You know what I mean? They don't wanna see pictures. No, they don't want to go hell. No, they do not want to see pictures. Yeah. And then you just pretend like you're hyperventilating on the phone. Can you tell him dramatic actress? Oh, yeah. You think you're an actor so that's like easier for you? Yes. I don't have an acting bone in my body because if I did, I would be on home or channel this season could for you addition for a hallmark movie. I haven't, but I feel like I would really thrive in a melodrama. So it's so funny that you guys are obsessed with blue bloods because I am actively trying to get on blue bloods and I know some people there and unlike literally like high, when will you put me on blue bloods? So that's my goal. And my future mother-in-law sh. That's her favorite show. And Jeff said the only way for her to ever like me respect me like to get on blue bloods. So that's what I'm working on, but you can do it. Goal, right? And the thing is, comedians can do dramatic, but dramatic actors can always be funny. So I'm like, I'm ready. I'm ready for like a real dramatic role. I'll play a Hooker of play a dead body then comes back to life. You know, I'll play like an attorney. Thing. Anything a prosecutor here. I'm reading auditioned for a law and order nob-. That's such a New York thing. And I've been out of the New York scene for a while, but as a New Yorker actor, every single person you expanded law and order total. There are so many. There are so many episodes. There's so many seasons parts. It's like, and then if you, if you're someone who watches old episodes of law and order, you really see every actor actress has ever like reinhart's on law and order Riverdale. Right, right, right. Yeah. And you play everything? Yeah. I would love to be a law and order NATO, I think I'm not much of an actress, but I could definitely play a dead body because that's my strong suit was like Ozark, shoots in Atlanta. One of my favorite shows with Jason Bateman and literally I call my agent be like, hi, it's all about meth heads in the Ozarks in Missouri. I can play a method like just take the lashes off. You know what I mean? I can go from scary to like glam real quick and back the back the other way. Yeah, we'll speaking of shows that film in Atlanta. That was something I was gonna wait to talk to you about, but hosted a. Instagram that just has like everyone shook, especially the toasters. Right. You aren't a flight from New York tweet Lantos sitting next to like two girls? Yes, like ingrate actor. Were they both actresses or. I did not know. The girl sitting next to me was I just knew the actress was okay. So her friend. They were talking as if they were both on the show, but I didn't. I didn't recognize her. Okay. So at least one of them is an actress on a show that's filling in Atlanta. This set to be a success. So you say yes, and she was talking shit about the lead actress of the show? Yes. She was saying that we would never be friends in real life. Yes, and opened up her Instagram and was playing her Instagram very loudly and kind of like making fun of her. Here's the thing. Okay. I am thirty one years old and I like to say that I really good plane, etiquette, and this girl clearly wanted to stir the pot. She wanted people to hear what she was saying because she was speaking so loudly about the most outrageous agreed things you would ever speak about in public. It was insane. It got to the point. I was listening to my podcast and I just pretended like I had I was listening, but it wasn't. And I was just losing to the crazy shit that they were saying it was like two spoiled little brats on a plane ruling in their shirt juuling. They were hitting the bait and then blowing in their shirts. At one point, like the stewardess was walking towards us, and I was like, if she sees them juuling I will legit. It's them. They her smoking on an airplane that takes so a legal so legal. Wow. Do you hear that the factory was rated. So the FDA has like is really on Jools case because teenagers are smoking jill's, right? And they feel as though jewels jewel is marketing towards teens when they shouldn't be right. So they went to the headquarters, seized marketing documents over a thousand documents to see if they really are intentionally targeting teens. Of course, they are, yeah, feel about jewel in general. Okay. Well, where do I begin with the drills? Here's the thing is popcorn long that nobody wants to talk about, but it's actually from all these dates because you know, like I like today. Plants that make you relaxed. You know what I mean? I don't know if I can lick legally say what I liked to date, you know? Yeah. So my doctor was like, hey, just a heads up. I'm glad use it to relax at night, but because it has, I guess, is it because it has water in it. Basically those things can cause bacteria to grow in your lungs, and then it pops like popcorn. So vaping not necessarily that much better for you than smoking cigarettes because you're just going to get popcorn lung instead of black lung. Exactly. But still fucked up lung. Yes, either way you'll lungs done so is is one worse than the other? I don't know. I mean, actually my sister who's like a real stress out attorney, Oliver friends or smoking jewels. And she's like thirty four because she's trying to quit smoking sakes. And now it's like so gross. But when you're an attorney that just like what you do, you know? So she's on the jewel and I'm like actually literature. She's like, Heather. If the fourteen year old kids are doing it, like how river clients Julie and she's like, I got to get on that tool game, but she's literally doing to try in weaned off. Okay, six. So here's the thing I was coming out of a club in the Hamptons, which I didn't even know that there were clubs in the Hamptons and. We had dinner there really early. And then we were walking out at like ten thirty and there was like six hundred kids. You're like, you know, not even like twenty. At every single kid out there was tooling. I literally went up to one of the kids and I was like, can you explain what's happening? And they're like, oh yeah, you have to have a jewel like you don't. You do not go out, but, but like those kids were like eighteen twenty or whatever. They look down on kids who smoke cigarettes, so they think they're superior hierarchy. We'll hierarchy. That's so wild. Also what's wild to me. My juuling I like people smoking when they're out and drinking isn't like a new thing. A lot of people smoke in their junk bit have never touched a cigarette sober. You know, juuling like my sister Margot who said it was like people in the library. They charge it in their computer and then take it out and smoke it like nights, lorries everywhere. Now, listen, I, of course used to get drunk and then smokes eggs outside the bar in college. Everyone did that right. That makes us feel so old. Oh God, I loved. What was it? The native, the spirit cigarettes, you know, with the native. American headdress on the front? Yes. Supposed to be like how low American spirit American spirits God. It's been so long. So that is I kind of want a cigarette at the studio. We're gonna need a smoke break. Yeah, we're gonna need to take a smoke break, and I want to like sit and just like, you know, crack open a glass of cabernet and just have a moment. That's amazing. Well, anyways, now people are taking to the library which is like really wild anyways. I just wanted to your take on jewel, so these girls are drilling on the plane. Oh, yes. So the juuling on the plane. They're talking shit about everything. I was just so flabbergasted at one point, it even thought about saying like, hey, Honey, just heads up, like, I know you don't. You don't want to be saying all this stuff on the airplane. Literally got to the point where then she started talking about like this crazy sexual stuff. The girl sitting in front of us, it was SE black girl says with literally turned around and was like ten, you not. And the two girls like I can't believe she's like trying to tell us to be quiet, but it was. So it was of noxious. I mean, they were speaking at a level like eighteen went on the plane right down here like a level eight, bright. Interest and they were both dressed like homeless people. Well, that's just so entertaining better than a podcast Jess better than a podcast. And I mean, the toasters have been trying to figure out who it is, and I thought I was really onto something when I message. I thought they were talking about mod appetito though, and I feel like she's such an angel. No, yeah. But that they were being mean about her and she's lead on the show and she is filling a new show that's gonna be on HBO. That's based off. It is rarely series, so should be a success. And there are some like thirsty lower to your actresses that would fit the Bill, but then he said that that no, it wasn't her. And I feel like I feel like her parents would keep her humble. It will seem like the lead actress that they're talking about. Seeings berry kind. She's very kind and she's lovely, and everyone knows her. That's all. And it's filming in Atlanta and it hasn't premiered yet, but you think it's going to be a big success. Yes. Okay. And it's and it's not dynasty, Cassandra, any servicing my manager was like, if you go on blast and blesses curl your career's over. So I told everybody remind me in a year to the date and maybe all the show comes out. I'll be like spilled the tea like anonymously, but you guys can't tell me that like I told you, but yes, she's, she's got famous parents. I don't know if they're Scientologists either, and you know, I'm terrified of that, right. Oh, that's a whole nother. That's all another thing. Okay. Well, digging so much today I've been so dehydrated, it's good. Is it though it is drinking water, scrape this coffee's ebb also metal Shaw that will straw and some lovely fans and the tuning. It says, the Italians Diane's gal. They made me raved get. It's great. Also, I noticed in the bathroom, this whole building is going anti plastic. Yes, it is rolling in with your IB. I bring my own straws. Yeah. Well, there's going to throw shade at you in the break room because you've got plastic. You got a plus it Cup. It's a paper Cup and the longer that it sits here like it disintegrates. So this cop isn't really harmful. The cap is probably harmful. I'm show take those away sues. I mean, I had to plastic things, but this is what I do afterwards. I set them on fire actually. You're not supposed to do that except with like Kim into the atmosphere. No, just take scissors and I cut this up and then I put it in a box and then later I'll make a necklace out. It didn't know. You can't varied insane because in the plastic goes into the guy just make jewelry. I'm gonna start making jewelry out of all my plastic cups. That's so cute. We met this woman. I Cam toast who was she was working the coffee bar and she said her jeans were made out of recycled plastic. That's the thing. Yeah. H. m. even does. They were Liz Claiborne. She said, look it up and they're made out of old plastic. Great, very cool. Very, very cool. Anyways, I appreciate your commitment to the metal star life, and I understand why you've done it. And so what is what happens to this straw when you get it from the terr- when I get it from the chair, I'll go and I'll just rinse it off and I'll put it back in my bag. And I have like a cute little brush that I can clean it out with like a lot of this, and then I just use it my next week. Okay. So you clean it out and you dry it off? Yes. And I'm not even kidding you. People at Starbucks have thanked me. Workers have been like, oh, my own. I don't need to straw. Thank you. Thank you so much. You're well. I feel like they're thanking you for just like being there all the time and like shining a positive light on them. I'm really trying to get back to the bucks, you know, and I'm really trying the opposite, but I'm glad that we're both so resolved in our efforts. Okay. Without further ado here are the fast ice stories that you need to know before you wake up and take a bite out of your morning toast. Okay. First story is to something that's been in the works for a while and really hits home for me because Kim Kardashian is suing her former bodyguard for six million dollars by the insurance company. Because of the Paris thing, yes. Pasco pass. Scowl hire a bodyguard named PASCAL in the first play. He wouldn't hire bodyguard. That looks like that. Wait a minute. What's so crazy about. Or is like he was like becoming famous for being Kim's bodyguard is in the background of pictures. When that guy who was like a prankster in Paris attacked her. Seep, took him down. That picture went viral only viral enough till the next day when she got robbed and that sort of superseded the prankster. But it's been two years since compassion was robbed at gunpoint in Paris and her former security guard. PASCAL do the air is now being sued, do the air who left Kardashian alone in her apartment to guard her sisters at a nightclub, the night of the robbery and protect security. The company he worked for are the targets of a six point. One million dollar lawsuit by insurance company AIG reports TMZ the six point. One million dollars is the amount a GP to Kardashian for the stolen jewels, including a massive diamond ring the soup places, much of a blame for the robbery, undo the air citing security breaches at the hotel that he failed to correct. Edgy also claims do the fail to point out several problems, including an insecure front gate of the hotel and a malfunctioning intercom system on the night of the robbery gunmen posing as cops gagged and tied up the star. She was left in her bed. Bathtub as they ran off with her jewelry, at least seventeen people have been arrested in connection to the jewelry heist. And shortly after the robbery do the air was sacked by the Kardashian family to Russians is PASCAL. Talion French looks like he's from the jersey shore, but I feel like PASCAL Frenchman. Yeah, I don't think he's talion. He like I feel perhaps that he's French or even like eastern European, the Romanian, yes, a Romanian situation Romanian situation. Okay, here's that's the first thing that's the first mistake. She did also sushi suing him, but she's not as saying that he was to blame the insurance company is suing him because they were the ones that had to pay right her on the insurance is such bullshit. Say that get on my soapbox and say, I don't understand how it works. I don't understand what it covers. I don't understand insurance. Also, I of the funniest name that was like worse case scenario with insurance. You've just lost a ton of money like you're paying insurance hoping that you never need to get insured. Since, but then when I need to be covered, they're always like, ooh, yeah, you forgot to get comprehensive coverage, right? You're playing doesn't cover this. Yes. And I'm like, okay, I have no legs left and they're like, oh, you didn't check the box for leg insurance and you're like, what? The fuck? Cheryl? You're my agent and you led me astray. He's like all those payments. You've been paying all those years. What did they go towards? Like a nice home for shero, but what about cheryl's literally Adirondacks just like thriving. You know what I mean? She's on a speedboat. Do they have lakes in the Enron dex Irvine there? I feel like there's different manmade. Yes. She's literally on a boat like just vibrating listening to Kenny Chesney drinking, you know, like Mike's hard lemonade all day while I'm over here with no legs bleeding out. And then I got a call delta and change my flight unity. That's where I'm at feel you. I went, okay, I get the insurance companies always going to try and sue somebody. It's like even when you get an offender bender, they try and sue state farm stews, AllState, whatever. I'm like, just Duke it out. And I just feel for PASCAL because I feel like at the time he kind of shouldered a lot of the blame it even Kim said like, it wasn't pass Kaos fault, and I just, I feel like none of them really knew the level that they were at. You know, he was like bodyguard in her, like he bodyguards any celebrity like he is. He's bodyguard now like for like he's a Fergie level bodyguard. They all have their own bodyguards will now now that after this now they're like full Mossad. I'm in there and there are. There will be no breaches. Hopefully. Did they. Criminally like did they figure out who it was? Did they catch those guys? Yes, to seventy two were arrested and then like seventy seventeen and then came like had to go and testify. Right? And there was a really scary episode. Yeah, very sad. That's like we're talking about our toast movie of the week, which was room last week. Have you seen it? Is that with religion and Jacob? Tremblay? I've seen bits of it, but I choose. I can't like being abducted honestly, like one of my. I could shook us. It is my biggest fear and I thought I was old enough now to watch the film and it was okay. Now I find myself like every night before I go to sleep, like just thinking about room and the story that it's based off of which is so much worse than that, then the movie. I've was one of my favorite steakhouses in Atlanta and I swear to God. I thought a woman was being trafficked. And I literally went up to her in the bathroom was like ma'am, our UK and she was like, yeah, I'm fine. She said. Oh, my thought I was like, she looked kind of Russian and young and I was like, are you okay? Like I just want to check. I followed her to the bathroom like eight fucking Crete and Tiffany. And she was like, maybe you see something say something because I don't know. I carry myself. I abroad shoulders and I don't think anybody would like try and pick me up. In fact, when I studied abroad in Italy when I was in college, like my sister's really little and she did the same program as me and my dad was so concerned. He like going to track her on her phone all these things. And I was like, dad weren't, you concerned about me? And he was like, Heather, we'd take at least seven fringed dudes to throw your ass in the back of a van where seventeen or seventeen km squad. Yeah. So he was not worried about me being taken because I'm like denser and I was like, that's one eight route and two, I guess I just have to keep my eyes and ears open for other smaller people guess you know, young, appreciate the work that you do. I will keep with, uh, new. I'm not half I'm behalf of small defenseless people very weak. People just call me Pasco. I like that. I wanna chinstrap this guy. You need to Google him into candy. He has a chin trout and then like a little soul patch here, just thing. Yes. No, he was like, I Connie in the Kardashian community, and now he's being blamed for everything, and I don't think it's his fault. It's not his fault. Kim told him to go to the club with her sisters, like, what is he gonna do not listen to Kim. She's the boss. Yeah. And I mean, you know, sometimes scary things have to happen for us to learn and grow. Right? But it really is still so crazy that that happened to him like this, like the story of Kim's robbery. It's like a story that will be telling our children, you know? Absolutely. Like it was a cold timbers October of night. Konya west was performing at the governor's knock governor's ball. The one up here. What's that festival called on Randall's island Xilin. No, the other one. The Mike festival he ends. That's here's reforming Greek fest in queens on a story of Ovar. Yes, he was eating spotty COPA tone and do an easy shift. So that's what it was. I was known as the meadows when the set was abruptly. Cut short. Yes. He had to go to came in Paris in a bathtub tied up. Yes. Wild wild. And honestly, that's why she only carries that little gold band and you know what I'm about to get engaged. And yes, I deserve acreage after eight years, but I'm also like honestly dated to eight where a tiny band, you could clubbed over the head outside whole foods, you don't know not even like I'd rather get clubbed over the head than what my worst here is, which is getting my finger chopped off, then never go to Naples because that's what they do in Italy. I'm going to Florida. Naples, Florida is savage to Florida is savage no offense, Georgia. And so I can talk shit about Florida all day long because that's where my parents here literally above it. I'm literally of when I meet people from Florida. Okay. I will admit I automatically go like I kind of take a step back on my psychos walls. Go up walls, go up. And then when people tell me they're from inland Florida. I'm like, why? Why would you move to Florida out of all states and then live two hours from the beach? Right again, if you have a farm, there's actually some like cool farms down there but like come on. Yeah, you gotta why? Florida's going to send me, but they know even if you're a good person from Florida, like you are aware that there are people in your state that are just really fucking it up for you guys, and it's such a beautiful state. It is so sunshine state, it's a sunshine in orange state, and I think this is why really have a chip on my shoulder about Florida's because being southerner, people are always like, oh, Georgia bunch of rednecks, Alabama bunch of rednecks. I'm like, no, no, no. You've never met a redneck. Florida, redneck because your nest out of their mind. They're like scary, white people who like wrestle alligators salt, fat salt. They're more wild than like people from Louisiana. So I just feel like you want see roll country real there on flock. Remember that flock is essentially vessel. It's okay. Yes and yes. Remember that guy was running through the streets naked and he like ABC's? Yes, might have been his parents, my guess what happened in Florida? And of course it did. This next story is just speaking to me and I wanna get your take on it because Connie Wentz goes down and ran during an art school visit saying, leave Elon Musk, the fuck alone. Kanye west gave an impromptu lessons to students at Michigan art school, jumping on a table and telling kids to quote leave Elon Musk, the fuck alone, quote, Elon Musk. I don't give a fuck over at his house. Leave that man, the fuck alone. The forty one year old rapper ranted during his Tuesday visited Detroit's college of creative studies. It's unclear what prompted the outburst which was captured on video posted to Twitter by a student named Josh. He might have been referring to the comments made by Zelaya banks in August. About the CEO Zilly banks is stirring the pot. She really is in the fact that like she has had a hand in like taking down Alon musk and feel good about it. Honestly, I don't Zilya. I watched the whole Twitter thing when the thing would Grimes is coming out, but I was just like, I've been asked to threesomes before I declined because that's like not my, that's not on bringing for me your enemy, right, but but you don't yuck someone's yom's. Thank you. Couldn't have said it better myself. I don't yuck someone's young. How do you feel about you on because people like, I think he's a genius. I think we're, I think he was trying to send us a message just like Britney has been trying to send us a message. I listen to you elect to our podcast with Joe Rogan and him. And honestly, he talks about AI stuff, but we don't realize that the robots are coming for us. So you guys want to get onto him because he's doing crack or like smoking too much weed or doing acid and trying to have a threesome. You need to listen, the robots are going to take over and he's trying to warn. Us. No, I'm totally teetering on. And it's like now it's like being a on controversial, but I'm standing by him. He has yet to do anything that would like that negates all of the positive change that he's bringing to the world. Thank you. You know what I mean? If you know what's coming like a robot war war, right? Like that could drive you crazy. I keep you can keep you up at night room style like my room is Elon Musk's robot war, like he's got a lot on his mind. He knows things that we don't know. It's like, okay, obviously we're gonna weird, political climate will why would you ever want to be president? Because you know, when you become president, they sit you down in a room and they're like aliens a real. This is what's happening you. You're joining the alumina. You have to like give them your blood, like the whole thing. I don't. Ignorance is bliss to me. Sometimes I like to be awake and woke, but I also like to like chill, right? And it's like if there's a robot war, hopefully it's not for fifty years and hopefully like he's not around for you know, and then it's not my problem. Honestly, this is going to sound weird. I think someone talking about me right now, my ears, you're so really the toasters maybe someone's like. Talking with their friend at work and they're like, oh my God, Heather, I love her jacket, like look is so fall chic that you are and morning show hosts special. Thank you, but it's like New York. So he's still helmet kicks on. Right? Because you've got places to go. I have a lot of walking at Lord and Taylor to do. I'm excited for you. Thank you. Speaking of walking, actually gonna jump around stories vice because that's just I love a good segue. Yes, speaking of walking Fitbit links ninety year old man to his stepdaughters stabbing death. This is so crazy. And I just I love when technology is used to solve crimes and they said it was going under and it's just getting stirred right. Like, you know, I'm getting a Fitbit now because if I ever do go room style, like they'll have my information, but this is like you would think, oh, they track the steps to find out where they went. Investigators have charged an elderly, California man with killing with killing his sixty seven year old stepdaughter. That's when I was angry that late in life. When I think of stepdaughter, like I don't think sixty seven years. No, I think she's like nineteen and a little baby back bitch, brat skin. This story, I assumed he was sixty seven. Killing his stepdaughter, but the stepdaughters he's what ninety ninety. He's ninety. Who's that bidder that old? Don't you hit like over sixty? Five and you're just like, what are known for it to? No, I'm twenty five and I feel that way. It's like agree to disagree. Let's let it go, right. He's be with you. I'm ready. Like I am who I am. I can't Shane. I don't don't try to change me. I won't try to change you, right? So he was charged after data from her. Fifth, it along with surveillance footage allegedly linked to the murder scene. According to police reports obtained by people and o. ninety was detained, September twenty. Fifth on a first degree murder charge, police allege in the report that yellow slashed and stabbed Karen of ARA. His ninety two year old, wife's daughter on September. Eighth remains were found in her San Jose home on September. Thirteenth after concerned, relatives, call police tourist quest, a welfare check when police arrived, the kitchen knife that had been used to cut her neck and head was found protruding from one of Navarre's hands. Oh yeah. This is graphic. Let's get to the fifth part at least report on the murder. Alleges. I l investigators, he last on of our on September eighth when he stopped by our home to bring her food. He told the Texas seems inside Navarre's residents for no more than fifteen minutes of the police report indicates, but police managed to recover surveillance footage from the neighborhood that set that they say confirms yellows car was parked in Navarro's driveway for more than twenty minutes. They also recovered data from Navarre's Fitbit device. The police report indicates that information showed numerous. Showed him Navarre the stepdaughters heart rate spiked at around three twenty pm at the same time. His car can be seen in her driveway. The data also indicates her heart rate started to slow eventually stopping at three twenty eight PM according to the police report, I didn't even think we were going to link it through the heart rate. I thought it was gonna be like she got a spike in steps my, she's running around her kitchen island, get away from me, but did she meet her? Daily goal is really the moral of that story was she got her heart rate up and then she didn't. But this is really like wild. Of. Dark place, but really knew about getting my steps in. It's like it'd be became increase your step goal, ten thousand a day. I was like once counting steps. And my goal was actually only seven thousand a day. I only hit ten that's come out of concert and I'm like dancing, right? Doing the shuffle random, like stepping the whole time. And I check my steps on my phone. I don't. I don't wear a Fitbit or anything, but I like to see on my phone like where I'm at, but there are some days where legit don't even like on a Sunday hung over like, oh yeah, you get forty five steps. It's and it's like, that's generous. Absolutely. And that's why quit wearing it on the weekends because it was true. I don't even have it on today and I should wear it around New York because you know, I'm getting my stepson, but you know that your phone counter to in your health Atkin. I and it does it retroactively like, I could show you go and you can tell me a day where he walks a lot. I can tell you how many steps. Okay. I need you to know the other day. I heard a weird noise coming from my phone and I put it up to my ear and it sounded like like static and I was like, they're listening. I was literally taking a nap and it was like they like the NSA tapped into my phone. They turned it on and they were trying. To report me. So I just started saying crazy ship there were literally recording it. Yeah, and be like if you're listening out of toilet paper, if you're listening sinned, Doritos and what are we gonna do Reverend, you know what I mean? Right yet. Tap into Brittany phone. Yeah, I'm always like on you to look at somebody were to look at my YouTube. It's like aluminum, like what? You know, all this is crazy stuff because I liked investigate. I'm looking spiracy theorists like as much as the rest of the world actually only like base in reality conspiracies total just like things. You don't want to believe to be true. But like I've never really dabbled into the aluminum, it's kind of sort of a joke and right. It's more like I was investigating how JFK die, but you gotta admit like there's some sort of like good old boys club race. So why is nobody asked me to join? I thrive in group settings. Right? You would bring so much like possess to the group? I feel I could plan like our little cocktail hours. Right. And then you wanna talk about world dominating a social events coordinator, think social chair. Thank you. It's like a bunch of old white men. And then there's just like me being like who wants pigs in a blanket and martinis me may I have pigs in a blanket. That's my favorite food. There's nothing better. There's truly nothing better because it's like better than hotdog because you're having more bread to dog ratio and the bread is better because it's like Crisan. It doesn't get better than a percent. I like the multifaceted layers. Like I wasn't into the cronut because I just wasn't into the grownup, but a regular flaky or chocolate croissant by blackout dead right? It doesn't need to be complicated. You know, the simpler, the better, crispy cream, you know, Dominic answer like I don't need a current well when the hot signs on the at crispy cream, it's a very southern thing like, I'll roll up. I know totally even evenly at three eighty New Yorkers I know about it. And then when I'm in Florida, like we stop by when you're in Florida right out to, you could say that you're listening, not so. After I take a relaxing bat, salt, right? Yes. Okay. Next story, speaking of potential bath salts the OC star, Michel Barton, joins the cast of the hills. Reboot. This made me sad. I saw this makes me well, this made me like puzzled and then I saw video that made me sad. Me Byron is returning to the small screen and making her reality TV debut a source compared to people that the actress has joined the cast of the hills. Reboot MTV later confirmed the news too, though she never appeared on the original series, which aired for six seasons from two thousand six to two thousand and ten Barton has a special connection to the MTV show at seventeen. She was catapulted to fame for her starring role is worse Cooper on FOX's the OC which premiered in two thousand and three and became a cult phenomenon almost overnight. The OC inspired MTV's Laguna beach, the real Orange County, which eventually spun off into the hills. So she, this would be like Teri Hatcher, going on real housewives, a hundred full circle and for that I am very meta, right? Very Neta and I'm here for that aspect of it, and it's like really. The hills became the OC like life imitates art too. So the OC I I've never watched single episode. I was like two years older than it, and I didn't even really watch the hills Laguna beach, thirty one and was thirty two. So I missed it a UMass you're such taste. I have. I really an arbiter of taste. I'm going to go on my grave. Joe? Yes. You know, a dent bitch arbiter of taste. So Michika. Oh, sweet, sweet, sweet. Nisha. I am saying her name right me. Show me Shah of Yemeni. Sheesh who needs borsch. Okay. Yeesh Nisha, Michel knee shopping. I wouldn't be surprised if her full name as Michigan. Then at Ellis Island, they changed it and I've realized name is not Barton. It's like Bruno, Nisha, Bruno, you know what I mean? And then she's like, ugh Dodd, can we try to Barton? You know, like this would happen anything. That's what into. I mean, here's I never she got on the show. Yes. Well, here's the problem with Michel Barton. She was amazing. Actually. I'm sure if I watch it the back, the Mercer Cooper like would piss me off. 'cause she makes poor choices. She doesn't appreciate the things that she has in life. She's always complaining. She thinks her parents are out to get her when really all they want to do to provide for her. Her little sister's horse has alopicia and just just has no sympathy with her little sister's horse. Her little sister played by Shaleen would lease. Horse had alopicia and it was like a great travesty in family. We want. What do you mean? Shaly woodley's horse Shaleen woodley's horse who they spent a fortune on then turn out to have alopicia and like she can no longer compete with her. I don't know what just happened or what was said. But my I've got to go back and watch the air. And so like Mercer Cooper clearly deals with a lot and her dad, Jimmy Cooper is like the birdie main off of their town. Their mom is like the village tramp, but I love her and like she's just trying to provide for her family and like Marissa, get off her Jacques anyway. So I don't know if I would like Mercer Cooper anymore, but then her gravest error was when the show was at its height me. She decided she was too good for it. Killed off her character and the show was never the same. I'm at this point. I'm so humble in my career. If like, you know. You know a show wants to lock me in for forty five years. I'll do it the gene job security job security. Do you know that people don't have jobs. Here's are so hot. Could you ever? Wow, I wonder it's the girl. Maybe the actress who I sat next to on the plane is a dog is a toaster. She sounds like our demo knocks, you really is. She's the age like it's perfect. She's probably watching like freaking breaking and tweaking and tweaking and juuling with for all the stress jewels. Could you imagine being on a show that is so so popular like changes the landscape really speaks to the culture of the time and like not wanting to be associated with it anymore and like not wanting to talk about it in interviews like if you had been on one tree hill, and then you're like ashamed, like, how could you how dare people get too big for their britches? I will never be too big for Atlanta, Georgia. Those are my roots. I will never be too big for the university of Mississippi. I'm waiting for them to ask me to do the commencement speech. They haven't you. That is such a good like goal in life. Thank you to be like the notable alum from your university, and they actually called me the alumnae department called me two days ago and they were like looking for donation, and I said, brianna, if. You're watching. I talked to on the phone and I was like Brown, and let me tell you something right now. Like I am not in the position right now to give you money, but when I do it will be such a large donation that you name the food hall. After me, I don't want that. The ability to be named after me, I want the place where people come together and eat snacks to be named after me. The student union, the Heather McMahon, Khawla snacks, university of Mississippi has a nice ring to it doesn't the blind side. Of course. He did. Of course, I did. Did you appreciate the portrayal? Absolutely. And I know the to ease so yes, Collins is. I think she's my year and she was a Katie and I was a delta gamma. So we were like the cheerleading the lily Collins? Yes. Oh my God. How was she? She was the loveliest night. I didn't know Mike Golic personally, but everybody knew on campus. Lovely, lovely family. I thought it was amazing movie. And did the little boy s j rarely get to run onto the field. I don't remember because he was drunk and I never made into a game. Oh my God. I did make it joy game, but like in the south, like we do tail with other level, right. Not like like I'd never wear a t. shirt to a game. I would be in full mosquito. Outfit with pearls and like a full thing. Totally. So it's more about like ambiance, unlike commodity and like drinking bourbon and eating Ponente cheese. It's not about like Michael oher yet, but love him. Like at the time when it was happening like before it was a movie. Did you know of the story of Michael award? Was he a big get for the school? He was just like they do for the school. But again, like I don't even know really like how football is scored and I'm like, I don't know. It scored at all. So I just like, you know, I'm like, oh, a great. Yes. Well, wow, what an interesting factoid him. God, I, I'm sure everybody at ole miss is going to be mad that I said that that I don't know about sports, but honestly, like don't know about four new and it's like, you know a lot about the things that you know about it and you can't. You can't do everything unless you're Elon Musk, thank you. You know, like you're like, is beyond your years. You really are like, I get a really good positive energy from you. And I just feel like you're on another wave length. Thank you. I feel the same way about you. I feel like I say these like 'isms that like are very old light, old soul hundred percent. I honestly and truly like an eighty four year old Jewish lady like in this body me too with our with our cigarettes and our glasses cabs sitting somewhere in queens, just talking shit. That would be so, and I would make a funny show what's so crazy, and I'm still shocked by this is when you came on the show last time and we were talking about like a random show that I never heard about you really get, they put it onto the universe, like maybe they'll maybe it'll reboot, what's it called designing women, reboot, literally, this is the craziest thing is you're watching for the first time. Last time I was here I said, my dream is they're doing a designing women reboot, which was very famous show with any pot Jean smart, delta Burke. And Dixie Carter, and that's your dream role would be for them to bring that show back for you to be on it two days later after I left the toast because we put out into the universe, ABC announced that they picked it up. That is so fucking weird. I never. I still I never heard of that show like that is so Aranda can't find it on Hulu. You have to go watch it on YouTube, but it is an incredible show. It was like it was in the same. Like lane is like Murphy Brown, but it was. A show about four interior designers and Atlanta, and they really like we're pioneers for political conversations. Empowering women talking about like gay rights like it was a show that made everything that's taboo in the south. They really like brought it to a head and discuss it, and it was insanely like witty and funny, and then literally two days later, they announced it. And I called my manager. I was sitting on a tarmac for three hours at JFK, and I was like, this is happening like happen. You're always at the airport or on a plane. I'm always on a blame banks, and that is why I have such good plane. Etiquette. If you ever see me in the airport, you will see that I'm not acting a full, maybe drunk, but I literally like, I'm like, I'm just as savvy traveler. Yeah, no, like you know, like you have your space rented yours, and you can do what you want within it, but you don't like lean onto the. I have a couple absolute, no nos at the airport there too many men wearing open toed sandals. Okay. It is different. If you're a woman, you're coming from our betas if you're grown ass man, where a decent, excuse me. Bucking shoe. Okay. We're a sensible close to chew. Okay. Do not put your feet up on the business of the person in front of you either. That is disgusting. They're no, no other, no. If you're in zone six, we all know that you bought your flight on orbits. Okay, you did not. You don't have miles, you don't have perks. So do not stop your feet Michael when they're like, we have to check your bag at the gate. Guess what? You're not on the front of the airplane. All right. And I was in Joan two yesterday and I could already see they're like any. We have a full flight because every flight is full. So just know that they're every airline over sells flights. So this gentleman I was walking on zone tune. I was like, great. I just made the cut off because literally by half two and a half, they were checking back, right? This man wanted to cause a scene and I lose this close attorney randomly. You need to settle down. You're a grown ass man, quit acting like a baby. It's free. It's going to get there right. You maybe have to wait what an extra seven minutes like I can't. Am I thirty nine? Always always no matter what you say. Thank you to the pilot and all the crew. When you get off that airplane, they got you there safely. And you need to be respectful to the stewardess totally or the stewards men. I don't know what the proper term is steward. I say weird but stewards this to or actually is that an archaic word? What's the what's white attended? Oh, perhaps poll Ono all my flight attendant friends. We send me a message. Eleven me if I'm using like, you know, you don't say waitress anymore server. I didn't know that. Yeah. I mean, I worked as a server. What about actress? Is that offensive? I am an actress. I have a giant. Won't be like, oh, you're she's an act door. I don't care. I'm an actress. I said, a large gaping vagina. I love saying that sometimes I mean, sometimes it's what the moment calls for. How do you feel about the way people dress in airports? Like what is your take on what people should be wearing? There was a big thing. I think it was a United flight that a girl wasn't allowed to get on because she had tights she was marrying. Yeah, like leggings. But apparently there she wasn't wearing pants and technically like my outfit today, like they might actually, I, I'm wearing shorts under my shirt, but like they might look at me and be like, you're not wearing pants. Well, also I would never wear shorts on a flight just because there have been so many asses in that c-. Totally. But the thing with that was everybody was up in arms about it. I think she was a airline employees and she was trying to catch a flight and they were like, you need to dress is I always try and bring the sensible blazers, nice jacket. I was wearing like a sneaker, close to shoe, I dislike to put my best foot forward and you'll make up. I do wear makeup, and if I don't wear makeup, I have my nice Panama hat on and like a pair of sunglasses. So I look like I'm glamorous yet. I will tell you this right now. Do you want to get into any of the sky lounges as long as you have a blazer on from the top up, they cannot see you sitting at the desk what you're wearing when you roll in. You will get upgraded. You will get the IP service if you just look like a decent human being, so don't roll on the flight in your pajamas. Narran away and never got upgraded. I actually for someone who dresses for every everything. I don't dress up to fly because of the conditions of lying. Like I need to be wearing like harem pants so that my legs can fit into this legal box like on and I don't wear makeup anymore just because my outfit doesn't require me can make harem pants, look. Nice. You can go to, you know, I mean, remains like the makeup really makes a difference like it's made up like I look wonderful when I'm not made up. They asked me how old I am before I go through the new scanning machines because you have to be thirteen or above really yet always asked me to like ma'am, where your children, everyone just like suspects that I have six kids because the because they think he'd be a great mom or because I'm tired and sweating all the time. A hormonal imbalance. I'm talking to my doctor about it. Thank you for your concern. Got to hear it. We'll speak airlines and other great segue because big bazaar Egypt Air. Sorry, why are we fled to Egypt? Aren't they in turmoil right now? I believe so. But you know, the parents are there and it's there's a lot lotta shit. See, yeah, a bizarre Egypt. Air drew Barrymore interview battles. The internet. We're going to write very interview of as a source blames the translation. So someone on an Egypt, Air flight caught an interview with Egypt airs version of sky MAG and drew Barrymore and like they actually decided to read it and it was very troubling. It says, quote, despite being unstable in her relationships, most of her life despite the six, several unsuccessful marriages. And despite the busy life of start on that dominated her life for several years, the beautiful American Hollywood actress drew Barrymore has recently decided to temporary sick, take an unlimited vacation to play her most crucial role as a mother. While many people were offended at the statements in the article, a source close to the ashes house. People. It is just a case of things getting lost. In translation quote, this is truly an innocent translation job that somehow made it through the channels ulcers. You've been very open about her failed marriages and like how she's like kinda conscious uncoupling with her. Now, ex really drew Barrymore's such an open book. She's like always been like her kid olive and the June bug all of all of the Elvin Jones and Neil place, isn't it? Or no, it's a restaurant, Alvin. Oh thing. Alex, digging all the Alvin bets is a clothing store. I love all the Mets. Yes, Joe, I know I think whenever it gets olive and Frankie Frankie, I was close June Frankie Frankie and June. You see, that's that's the way I connect. She's always been open about like she did cocaine at like, eleven. That's so crazy. Why are we acting like this is crazy thing for her to be honest and open about her life. Right? I guess just the way that they portrayed it, it was like making her, it was just not a respectful way to to discuss it. Like, despite this, this this and she's America's sweetheart. You don't talk about girl like that. That is so true, but that's probably why wouldn't do an interview for Egypt airline United maggots also like our times tough, Egypt, Air, are they paying you for it? Probably on my God. Those airlines have so much money or she just like leaving Morocco in like somebody asks her a question like, and they got the exclusion of an exclusive. She was like, excuse me, yeah, I'm taking care of my children right now where like your riches a failed. She upsetting. I know I know asshole. That's why I'm here by myself. You know, like I think that that's how it went down. No, totally. We need more context around this story. It's just like threw no wrong who actually opens those magazines. I know. And that's another thing. Don't touch those magazines because they have a lot of germs, and I'm not a germaphobe, but we all know love shopping at sky mall, but you can do it online, right? No, I'm a germaphobe for sure, but an airp- airplane germs are the worst kinds of germs. Yeah. So don't touch. Don't trust touch the throw a bag. Joe. Everyone puts their gum in including myself. Actually, I really think it'd be an awesome other because when I was flying to Europe last year, there is a little kid in front of me and it was like my maternal instincts just set in. We'd just landed and the mother I could tell she had two kids was looking around panic, and I just knew he was about to throw up and Jeff had no idea why I was like searching through the bags, and I threw throw it back over my seat in front of me. And she was like, think you and Jeff was like, how did you know what was about to happen? It was like something inside me told me that this whole three year old was about to puke, and she liked was in tears. Thank you. And I was like, I just knew like nauseating maternal instinct. God spoke to me. Wow. So anyway, then you do have it. Yeah, I hope, yeah. Yeah. Well, since we have you here, I need an update on Britney. Nine one because last time you were here like it was taking the world by storm. Everyone now really the whole universe is aware of Brittany nine one one, and it's like even news with their Instagram captions, where they never wanna offend people like they know something's out they do. She's been posting some interesting stuff recently, actually. Do you mind if I opened my Instagram, we discuss some of the things I would. I would love that a real like DBQ. Yes. So she posted a few things from Paris, like a couple of weeks post her being being in Paris, and they're the most random photos. But one of the photos that she posted, she was like, oh, look at this really cool street art above. She's like, I saw this really cool street art above a woman's head, which that makes sense. And it was an evil eye and you're telling me that she isn't being attacked by the aluminum body. Looking right in the camera or it's like maybe a room situation. Yeah, it could be here. I'll pull up the photo just UCF it interesting. Yeah, she's been. She's literally been just sending his messages way. Did she take it down? That's another message we. She took down the photo of pair her in Paris. That's another message we were supposed to discuss this because I was supposed to discover this. She realized that the universe just sent this to us. Right. She took it down. I bet the aluminum contacted her and they're like, you're, you're giving off too many signed. Exactly. Wow. And then she posted this the other day, if she doesn't scare the hell out of you a little, she's not the one. So maybe she's like been like looming over Sam in the middle of the night. Then also, Jeff, honestly, would be like, yeah, you scare the hell out of me. Yeah, as it should be. No, for sure. But who is she referring to like, who's who? I don't know. Clearly she scaring everyone. Maybe Sam was like, you're back on the cocaine, he maybe he's nervous. Yeah, here's the thing. People have really been sending me mass. Britney. Nine one line. You have to save her. I feel like my hands are tied at this moment doing what I can, but until somebody from her camp or somebody who actually has like the key to like Louisiana, I can't get it. No. And I feel like you've already done so much for her by by by bringing attention to the issue and saying the things that no one that everyone was too scared to say we were. We were really all thinking it so you've she should be thanking you and at a certain point, like it is out of your hands in it. And that's where we're at now. So I look forward to seeing like what becomes because she going gonna put out new music. Like, what is she doing? I don't know. I don't think she might put out new music, but really my biggest concern like britney's there and I need to save her are who really needs save us Lindsay. Oh my God. Did you see the video? Did I see the video of her trying to steal refugees? Yes, I saw the video that was so crazy. We talked about it yesterday. I don't even know how this because we talked about it. Monday on the show. Yes, and, and you all had very valid points. Right? But I just think the level of cocaine that she's on is just that she's. On cocaine, like cocaine and that's cocaine? Yes. Cocaine, and that would end that aside effective that would be kidnapping refugee children? Well, it's just because you get that superhuman strength, three like, oh, I'm going to do the most in the lease at the same time. I mean, okay. What was most alarming is the video of her in the bathroom when she's clearly like cross faded, you know what I mean? She I don't see everything that she posts because I can't like I don't. There's people talking outside the door, Jamaica show. Let me just open the door and tell them that we're shooting. We are shooting show, of course the minute we opened the door, they walk away, we'll good. I'm glad we opened it then. Yeah, because I don't even know if you could hear them, but they're just in my mind yet what it was like. It's like Lindsey at is more important than your conversation and saving her. I agree. I think she's in a worst off spot than anyone else is right now. Did you? She's trying to make the best of it? She is. But did you. They better leave teacher. I'm like, I'll wait. Now you're, you're okay. So the video of her in the bathroom looking for her. She was trying to say, you're pods, but she said no shrines eight buds, but she said like ear off, she, what did she say? She said something that didn't make sense. Then she had her friend who I guess was Greek or Persian or something. He was in the bathroom with her and he was like, turn the fun around, show them a five, show them up five. That's literally he was screaming like I have been enough around enough people on cocaine to know that this guy was out of his mind, and so he's geeking out in the mirror like Sharma, five, all that's literally the noisy made afterwards and Lindsay's trying to turn her phone around so she could show everyone his face. You know, it's like when you're on uppers, you get that superhuman strength, it just anything. Where does she live? You know, like, what is her home look like? I just do the low hand just filed for bankruptcy. One point, eight million dollars in the hole. Oh, my goodness. Yeah. I mean, I'd speaking of Lindsay Lohan and. I was meant to say this when we were talking about actors who don't appreciate like the six things that made them a big star. We're having an opposite problem like that with the man who played iron Samuels who's like going around thirsty everywhere, like doing October third, like impersonation. I know he like he's like super thirsty. And I mean on the one hand, like, I appreciate that you love that we love your movie, but like, yeah, it is. It is, you know, who's the loveliest person I've ever met in my life? Who's from mean girls lacy Chevallier only got I love her because she's a hallmark actress. If I was going to say she she's one of the best ones because she's a great actress. She's so pretty unlike just cute and enjoyable to watch. We went to lunch together in LA because we had a mutual friend and I'm not even an ally. She was the nicest person ever and I really think we need to promote Oliver hallmark movies. She's a phenomenal actress and a good soul. No, and I love the cheetahs hallmark movies because it is the number one watched television channel during Christmas season like her movies are being watched more than like some indie movie in the. Frigging cinema club and nobody gives hallmark channel the credit they deserve. They go to Africa and shoot movies. They have like big budge. Like she just did a movie in Africa. I'm my God. That's so cool. Yeah, we gotta get her on this show because like I gotta get the tips to becoming a hallmark just like I'm just a soul cycle class kind just take this all of corner, stick withdrawn here. Although I don't know if it'll reach in then you gotta like tilt it back OK. I'm going over to Instagram because we have so many questions for you and I would be remiss people are calling me like, I can't, and I shan't. Okay. A lot of a lot of questions does. Sorry, that's the second shown the house. It's my favorite thing to say now. No, that's amazing. And then mediation follow her. We have a question. Who are you more worried about Lindsay, Britney? Lindsay, I'm way more worried about Lindsey. I think Britney has enough people protecting her that I think we can save Brittany, but Lindsey, I think is, is it honor? What do you think about Amanda Bines? I think Amanda Bines. Is going to make a comeback. I'm so ready for it. I just watched Sydney white last week in like that wasn't even her best work, and it was still so good. But I think what's going to happen is when she makes a comeback, there's she's going to tell all, and I think we're gonna learn a lot of information. A lot of information that I don't think anybody's ready for because I think Amanda knows things. She knows the things that we know that you know that we know that NT knows and that we've alluded to on the show, but there are still some big names haven't been taken down yet. And I think just because they resigned from Nickelodeon that it's over, but it hasn't even begun. Oh, yeah. Look at my feet. I see. What are your thoughts on Lindsey Lowe, hens, new strange, accent, Madonna vibes, Meghan Markle bibles. Again, I often times when I've had two Chardonnays I'd love to go into different accents. You know, sometimes I'm talking like this. You know, sometimes I'm Russian look, a look dune Australian. I'm sorry, debts and actual thinks in me to like change accents. So clearly she's consuming things. So I just think it's par for the course. Got it. And when you think about Meghan, Markle's new, British accent, okay, here's the deal. If you live in England, you're gonna be British. It doesn't matter. Like when I go to the south when I'm in Mississippi kind of country when I'm up here, like I literally get a Long Island accent, I just think maybe it's like I'm slightly schizophrenic. I'm not quite sure, but I think, okay, Meghan your royalty. If you want to talk with the British accent, you're Queen new Toda. And now that I like I was going to throw shade because it's like she's just trying to be something on. She's not, but the more I think about it, it's like I watch one episode of shits creek and all of a sudden, I'm way we're rose. Yes, you know, like if I moved to Britain and not only just was a peasant there, but. Like I represented the whole Royal family. I would start to say family family and all of a sudden I'm British route, so I feel it, yeah. Even when you hang out with people, you start to talk like that. Like when you go to camp and you come talking like your camp friends, all of your campaigns with the thing with Lindsay is especially in the video and she's trying to save the refugees when she was trying to speak Arabic and Russian. But it's kind of like we tried to Lindsay socks, lenses sense, kind of like like, I don't even know where it goes, right? It's like hill. I feel she's just trying to be like a citizen of the world. She's making up her own access. You really is. But and then when she goes to Greece, it's just like just no holds bar like just buckle up. We don't know what's gonna. She needs to get a Greek accent, she and then she can't enroll in my big fat Greek wedding three, and then we'll come full circle. There we go. Loves it. Something I meant to ask you about because you're a friend of busy Phillips and cloudy, and I were talking about her new show that finally has a name and a tagline busy tonight and premier date and like a format from what I understand. And do you have any additional details about about the show and the format? I don't actually kept everything pretty hush at my best friend Raymond is her personal assistant. But no, I think the show is going to be amazing. Kelly, ostrich, one of her head writers like I think it's going to be great. I don't know anything about the show yet, but she did announce on her first guest, I believe, is going to be Julia Roberts. So I mean, that's going to be dramatic. And it I Julia, I like her. I don't know. I don't know if I use a very dramatic. Okay. Discuss. Okay. Okay, good. That's cool. I'll check it out. I get to me like Chelsea handler vibes with like a little any co in just like late night. Fun. Yes. And everyone's asking me if I'm gonna be on the show. She has an ad. She, I'm busy. I loved to be on your show, but she hasn't asked me yet. He's great. I mean, maybe I'll be like maybe she'll bring on like people off the street guests. You know nobody knows who you are because I'm not this, and then I'm just like, good. That busy at the gym. Holler were friends. Got it. Well, I look forward to it. It's going to the shows that would be great. And I think it's been a huge success and I think we need that real girl talk. These going to be like real female friend because I mean, there are no women in late night right now. Right? And she's on a stand up. So I don't think it's going to be roasting people. Him there was, I think it's going to be more like we're sitting down in a comfy space really talking about real shit toasts. Sounds like a show I know. Right? We had a question for you to you, or would you ever do standup? I do to stand up. I do do it. I hate that I did a tow dare. Yeah, I do do it, yes, and I'm going to actually writing one woman show so I'm gonna take it on the road, hopefully. So don't worry. I'm back in action. I get a little burnt out this summer, but we're back putting on our creative wigs and like we're going to do the most this that's going to be as I've been cold months. I really do. Oh, I feel the exact same way. It's like I'm even like thinner in the winter than I am this summer and I am so much thinner. Right. It's just because like the pressure's off and it's like everyone else is looking worse than that makes me looking better. And I'm one of those people like after, say, like a second class, you were discussing this the other day, like I'm like, you, I'm beat red and I sweat for four hours after. So in the winter, it's so great when you can like shower, put yourself together and feel like a human way more productive. Right? And you like walk out and it's like thirty degrees and it's like, refreshing. I love it. I do. I love it. As long as I can get away in March and let go to the church in Geico's. I'm fine. I don't mind wearing an I like Chris jacket. Totally. I really put on a persona when I come here. I mean, I'm always ASI, but what I feel like when we vibe and we talk like I get very crisp, no crisp like I get so Moyer on this show like and I wouldn't have it any other way like I we were just talking about shits creek. Yeah, I just caught up on season four. So it's top of mind. And I mean, I love Alexis. And Ted. I don't feel like that's a popular opinion people who know about shits creek or like OSA this show ever. Yeah, but I'm also set the Showtime, just cancelled my favorite show. I'm dying. What's here? What's it called? It's called, I'm dying up here really so good watch it. It's on Showtime seasons. They did two seasons and they just canceled it and it's hard to watch show knowing that it didn't get another season like literally wants to Jeff. And he was like, almost in tears on the way here on this is bullshit was let's go the Showtime office, but now we're like started petition, change, dot org. That's great. We have pushed about your relationship. How do you guys make like long distance work for you? Okay. I say this all the time we knew we were going to be long distance forever, but long distance for some people just works. Here's the thing. We've been together seven years of eight and February. He is very career driven so my and we just fly back and forth all the time and they get a bunch of miles. But I like long distance, like I still in like crazy wild head over heels about Jeff. And we've been seven years. We never took a break like there were no ups and downs. We've been like madly goo goo Gaga in love all that time, but we've been very selfless and like he's like, I know you have to go to l. a. and do your things. We've been just building the empire together and he's an engineer. He's an engineer. He's. Okay. He's like God right. Think he's an engineer and apparently not, but it's great if you guys see the giants dying out, be like Jeff engine near he is every all of his energizing him about it. But another reason why I love long distances like because the sexist to like really good and like we're still like really passionate about each other. But then I get to like send his ass on a plane like not pick up after him. I'm not putting it in the crock pot. Look, I'm not at home Baker on Lantis playing with close to choose. Thank you. Yes. Oh, Jeff, dresses. Sharp. Yes. Sendai always a sports coat on. Yeah, I don't know what a sports coat is, but I love the sound of it like this thing, it sounds like a very useful thing. It's just like a really nice place or like it would be a nice navy. It's kind of lightweight. I mean, it's essentially like a blazer, but it's just a real, Chris blazer, and he usually wears it with like a white button down and like just cool jeans and like converse. You know what I mean? Ohio, where like a nice red wing steel toed boots because he's an engineer, right? How do you come up with all your character's? Like what is your inspiration from them for them? Like Brenda, Carlisle, we'll Brenda Carlisle was created in a actually saw the gold jacket goodwill and I, it clicked because it was kind of loosely based off some of my sorority scissors moms Mississippi. I was such a fish out of water Mississippi, but was the greatest four years of my life. So it's just like I had a friend's mom and shoot show up like drift head to toe. In Chanel, it'd be the middle of August. We'd be like at a sorority function, and she would just be the full like wool Chanel. There's so much money in Mississippi people don't even realize. And so she was just like crazy and everyone. Mississippi drinks bourbon. And you know, like in the south of you're in a sorority, one of the rules was if you wanted to the cigarette, you had to be seated. You couldn't be standing up by smoke this kind of that. We're like, yeah, we're, there's like lanes where like we keep it classy, but we also like, you know, kind of sloppy yet. Totally. Oh my God. I didn't know the rule that that was a thing. Oh, it's rule across the board as any any sorority? Probably in the south we had to sit down and if they didn't have that rule, then maybe they weren't the good one. I can't imagine you being in a sorority like now I thrived and you know what? Everybody has its opinion of sororities like it was a bunch of mean girls. We had such commodity every we did so many philanthropic things. I loved my sister. I have only positive experiences with 'cause I went most one. I feel like I didn't have the actual sorority experience, but if I thought about like sororities at like in Mississippi like that is scary. No, it was great. Also, I don't know how they let me in. I was a delta gamma and grew up sisters. We were founded at the university of Mississippi. It was very overwhelming for me. But I was pledged class president, and then I was was I was bid day chair. Wow. I like, did the most totally what I did. I was a little bit of a black sheep because our first swap or like social, which is the party that you do with fraternity. The theme was health are bikers in babes, which was Hells Angels themed, but I heard bikers dress up like Lance Armstrong. So I thought I got on the bus to go, and I was full head to Joe spandex. We'd like live strong bracelets were like all dressing like Keat like leather gear, and I was totally misread it. So when it comes to characters, I've always like thought outside the box. God outside the box so forever. I always had to wear spandex to every swap even if it was like billable ball. Yeah, that's amazing. Yeah, wow. Well, I wonder if they have sororities in business school because I don't know if you know I'm applying to Harvard Business School. I did not know in this is incredible. I applied to Harvard originally for undergrad. My dad thought I could be Elwood's, but they didn't get me. But I did go to the Harvard of the south university of Mississippi. You apply early. I did. I love it. I always had like if I didn't, I tried to call you because like that was my reach. But like if I didn't have a school that I was knew, I wanted to go do. I was gonna just apply early to Harvard because like why not? Why not? They probably get like so many people who think like that. I think you really need to send in like a whole video kit. Yes. She needed social media like media kit, and you need to just be like, this is who I am. You already have a thriving business with the morning, Joe. Right. I feel like my biggest hurdles can be the g. mat and I'm taking a practice test soon and Donald determine if I move forward with this plan that started on Monday because we reported a story that business school applications are down because the job market is very good, apparently. Right. And why why go to business school, if you're already an entrepreneur hustling. Right? If you're like, have a job paying back student loans, like why go into more debt you go. So that leads an opening though for me, I'm going to take a practice she met if I get below a five hundred, I will give up on the stream. If I get a five hundred or above like that, what's it out of eight hundred? Eight hundred. But that would be a good starting point. Like without a tutor or anything like without even knowing. Anything like on my worst day, five hundred Minna I'm gonna go for it. I actually ended up at the university of Mississippi by accident because I had applied to only two schools. I applied to Harvard for undergrad at which was just a real dislike shop majority. I think that's my fav- action. Then Armstrong is a close second, but that's my favorite thing because that is always like how I felt about early decision and Harvard and like how you should approach it. You should just go for it. I mean, and then I applied to Pepperdine and I literally thought I was going to get into Pepperdine and I got a whole tour the school from basically the president and I, I was like, okay, I got into Pepperdine two weeks before I was supposed to graduate high school. I found out I got rejected from Pepperdine, not bitter about it still bitter, and I had chew weeks. Literally two weeks before school was over to figure out where it was going to go visit at the university of Alabama. It was Mr. Matic like twenty four hours of my life. And I said, well, looks like I'm going to ole miss 'cause ole miss and Alabama were the only two schools that still had rolling admission. So when I showed up to ole miss, I should have an orientation. Never even visited, and I just pulled a hail Mary. I was like, well, you know, they got a great tailgate school school, and then I showed up and it was God's country and I never left and it was the best for years of my life. Everything works out the way it's supposed to. I'm obsessed with Pepperdine for multitude of reasons. One, someone who works at Pepperdine law school. I don't know if that's the thing just the other day. She was like, I work an emissions at Pepperdine law. So like if you want to speak to her, she's a toaster until she was telling me about like the business school process and try and get them to Pepperdine. It's a great school, and I mean, is it and I think it's in California, but it looks like it's in Hawaii, it's in Malibu. It's right up the PCH it's gorgeous, and they great thing about it is that's where they film Disney's friends for change with the Jonas brothers, Selena, and Hannah Montana who have never been in the same room together since. I mean, maybe that's why they needed such vast campus so that they can all have space from each other is called it on on and on. One spark can lead another. It's a great great song, and it was doing good in the world. So I'm just here for Pepperdine. I understand your lot for it. No, I'm still here for it and I realize you know what? Sometimes like. God's into a different direction and had I not going to the university of Mississippi. I actually have never met the Italian stallion. How did you guys meet again? Because my best friend, Christina, Tompkins, who's on the national Broadway tour of Santa music plug? Who does she play? She plays like all of them. She's a swing right now, but that's the best thing because that way you don't burn out your voice. Cool, versatile? Yes. And she's on doing her second tour, but she loves like being able to play all the different character, I guess. So she actually was in the same situation as me. She applied like one like super fancy or at school and didn't get in. So she was from New York, and we met the first day in theater class, and I looked at her and I was like, do you know what state we're in? She's like, I didn't even know where Mississippi was, and then we became best friends in so Jeff and her grew up together. Oh, my goodness, yes. But honestly, like I love Mississippi and I would literally like be buried there and like it's the, it's the best. And I look forward to your commencement speech. I'm gonna coming to you so much. I'm thrilled to do it. It's going to happen Angels' wide open. Thank you for joining us. Thank you for having me. I have so much fun and I just feel like you. Are just like really change in the world. And I think we need to give you the credit and you just are so poignant and like elegant and so kind, and I appreciate you having me on. Thank you. Appreciate you coming. You're taking the world with your Instagram stories in your premium content left. Right and center and your mom on bumble. I hope she matches with Mario singer trying to make it happen. Yeah. So just thank you for being here. We'll see you again soon, especially when to move to New York and cloudy is on tour like we could do this all the time. Absolutely. And also thanks to the toasters you guys are the best like house cheerleader. There's a biggest cheerleader. They're so like John honed jed. So kind of just like if they like you, they love you and they just make everyone feel as good as we do all the time. And so thank you for representing our show. Yes, Ha's guys, we love you very much. We're so glad that made this happen where everyone follow you for more premium content. Just Heather Kay McMahon at Instagram, love it. We will see back here tomorrow. I'll be hosting with my sister Livia and we will get all the engagement details. We'll be taking all of your questions and it's just going to be a fun day right now I have a headache, so I need to massage it out. Yes. Bye.

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Fame And Fortune

Weekend Observations with Stu and Jr.

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Fame And Fortune

"Welcome to journey inside the soul of one of sports media's brightest minds. Profoundly nuanced odyssey called stupidity lifted by the incomparable. Stugatz. A man I consider a personal hero and con of the industry. I wanna make no bones about it. There is no Mike Greenberg today without these sensational. Stugatz providing me the inspiration to chase my dream and challenge myself to be just half as brilliant as he is allow me Mike Greenberg man who would probably today doing traffic in Sioux Falls without stugatz influence to welcome you to a truly transcendent sonic experience. This is stupidity. I welcome into a nother episode of stupidity. It's all downhill after the greedy open. He came on our show last week. He said he has got more reaction to voicing that open than he's gotten to anything. He's done in his professional career, which speaks volumes about what the hell. It is. We're doing here. I standard. What episode is this for us? I have no idea. I've lost track of what episode were on episode seven. What are we doing NC double A tournament is upon us at the big time of year? I love this time of year because we all get excited. We take days off of work. We gamble. A lot of money. We all pay attention to something that's been on our television screens for the last four months yet. We've ignored it. But now, we pay attention. So how are we on stupidity? Hear me, and Abby how are we going to attack this NC double A tournament? Are we gonna break it down? We got incorporate Abby why don't we go like famous alumni in who's ever more famous. We pick that team done. We can do that Abbes. That goodbye. You sounds good. All right. So. Duke is playing either North Carolina central or North Dakota state were taping this on a Tuesday. We don't know who they're going to be playing dukes gonna win. We can pick Duke and our Prakash. Let's do the celebrities anyway for Duke, who do you think is more famous of these Melinda gates Ken Jong Adam silver NBA Commissioner or Jay Bilas. So Jay Bilas, Abby Dina who Jay Bilas. Nope. Oh my God. Do you know who Melinda gates is? I'm taking Duke for him was don't what you doing for Siahaan. You know, some of the players notice your sports opinion. We're talking about famous alumni, that's a great big. I mean, a one versus a sixteen and sixteen is going to be playing in a play in game. And everyone's gonna take Dookie, but just in terms of famous celebrity yet Jay Bilas, you don't know who he is yet. Melinda gates. Do you know who Melinda gates is? I mean, someone she's married to Antonio gates who do you can Junkins. Famous. Actor Abby Ken, John is the guy who lives in your in your cousins development out in California. Now, I do now right timing that last week, you're there you remember he was on the elliptical machine at the gym. And I pretended. I would only lift Stanford. You will love this for Ken, John. I saw him on the elliptical. You know, I love celebrity, and I want to be close to celebrity he was on the elliptical machine. So I figured I went to the gym. And I acted like I was also going to do the elliptical machine, and I did it right next to Ken, John and unbeknownst to me Kim Jong is a big fan of the show. But also notes to me Ken Jong animal and the elliptical machine he went for an hour and twenty five minutes, I can go that long. So eventually I had to get off after twelve minutes because I couldn't keep up with Ken, John. You have Jay Bilas. You have Antonio gauges white the ten John and yet Adam silver who is the most segment is it's Bill Gates. Stupidity. All right. So we got Ken John perfect. We'll do is going to win because North Carolina central. They have Sam Jones ten time NBA jam Celtics. Great and North Dakota state. Carson wentz. Ooh. I can't believe you once they're VCU plays UCF who's the most famous celeb- from VCU out of patch Adams, the real one, Gerald Henderson senior three-time NBA champ or David Balducci. I don't know how to pronounce do you guys know who he is? I have no idea who ball dodgy is. I do know who Gerald Henderson seniors junior. Played at Duke, actually, a senior played for the Boston Celtics with Larry Bird abbey. So they won three NBA titles back in the eighties. And patch Adams is is Robin William's character and a movie is that right? Correct. All right. So we have patch Adams, Gerald, Henderson senior, David bell duty. I don't know about do is. He's a writer that I definitely don't know who he is. So you want us to pick between so we'd narrow this down to one. And then we're going to take their one celebrity verse. UCF one celebrity. I think so. Okay. So Abby, I think of those three we have to go patch Adams, right? Is that the one that played Larry Bird patch out inflate with every bird? Yes. I know. He didn't it was it was it was the greatest front court in the history of the NBA. You had the chief Kevin McHale at patch Adams with the clown knows. Right. Yeah. So let's stick patch Adams. Okay. All right. And then UCF, it's Daniel Tosh, Cheryl Hines or Blake Bortles. Blake Bortles Abby Dido who he is. From the beer company. Getting Bortles James. That's why cooler company up Blake Bortles is the worst quarterback in the history of the NFL. So we're not going to go. There was just signed with whoever that is doodo Cheryl Hines is Stanford who is Cheryl. Hi, she she invented catch up. She played Larry David's wife in curb your enthusiasm. But Daniel Tosh from Miami, Abby. He's a big star talk show. That's we're we're going to go Daniel Tosh for UCF. How about that? Sounds good. Mississippi state. Did you want it to pick a winner based? So that was tossed versus patch Adams, plying Tosh is gonna win their right? The patch Adams played with chief with the chief and Kevin McHale. All right. It's a Mississippi State. Your choice is John Grisham y'all Palmero or Buck Showalter. All right Abidine. Dino Grisham is. Grisham did does or does that? I just kill John Grisham that fine. Okay. And he will be facing off against liberties most famous alum either Seth curry Steffes, brother or Sam ponder. All right. It's a Sam ponder host the NFL pre-game show on ESPN. She's fantastic. Seth curry is the third most famous curry and his family behind his brother's Steph and his dad del. You wanna go Seth curry here. All right. So we go Seth curry standing and they're playing he's playing John Grisham Gresham's gonna win that one right at Grisham in a landslide. Yes. All right. Grisham will win by three hundred and thirty three pages. Joe Virginia Tech against Saint Louis. Your options for Virginia Tech are Michael Vick Bruce Arians in Hoda Kotb e okay? So Hodi believes she's on the today show. Right. She's always drinking champagne with God league giver, Michael Vick. Do you know who he is Abby? I do. He's a former quarterback yet Virginia Tech jet quarterback played for the falcons also went to jail because he was very mean to dogs, you know, that dogfighting scandal. Okay. So we're going to take Hoda here at Bruce Arians doesn't matter who he is. Okay. He's the coach of the bucks, and I'm he's never been more irrelevant in his entire life. Saint Louis not great options for Saint Louis. Not gonna lie to you. James Gunn who directed. Guardians of the galaxy news this week. Larry Hughes played with LeBron and the Cavs steam, and that went to the finals and got swept and Pat Lahey it. As a former jets kicker, Abby, Pat, he is perhaps the greatest kicker in the history of the jets organization, and when you're putting them up against James gone and Larry us. I think we gotta go Pat lay here agree. All right. So we have Pat Lahey verse Hoda. I think we have to take the the holidays we have Maryland against either temple or Belmont lot of options for Maryland. So let's do that first Kevin plank. Larry, David, Jim Henson, Giuliana ransack, David Simon. Gayle king Robin quivers, Scott van pelt, Tim Kirch and Dominique Foxworth. All right before you answer or Abby Dido who Scott fan peltz's. Yes. I do. He works very late hours. Right. He does the midnight sportscenter. He was on the podcast that we could go abbey. Dominic. Foxworth is Jeff foxworthy, brother? Yes. It is. Dominic foxworth? Yes. That is it. He is just foxworthy's brother. Always listening. Dominic Foxworth or if Jeff foxworthy's name was Jeff Foxworth that. Yes, perhaps. Okay. Send it would be brother. Dominique Foxworth is a good friend of mine. But he does the show with me all the time, right? All right. Okay. Okay. I don't watch or listen. So how would I know? That's a good point. I do you know who Tim Kirch it some people referred homeless tall. Yes. He's on your show. He's a writer something else. Something else. They'll be. All right. So although there was someone else. I liked sweet. Who was David saw wrote the wire he created the wire name, Gayle king a renchik. She's married to Bill ramczyk, the original Prentice, and she's on E. Right. And she fashion she's on ABM Kevin plight. The Under Armour guy. Now who was Pinson Larry Benson Henson the Muppets over Vira, David. Like the Muppets. So where to go with a muppet we like them up into your. We're gonna take Jim Henson agai. We get Jimmy Hinson from Maryland. Okay. Temple and Belmont are playing tonight, but temple so pick your favorite celebrity among this group. Bob sagging, Adam McKay, Jesse Williams. Daryl hall, John Oates, all from temple and Belmont. Has Brad paisley Tricia earwood, leeann Womack? Let me get the hell out of here with Bob. I haven't heard of any you want to go sag it overhaul and oats Evie. We're gonna go Bob saga. We'll take Bob sag it here for temple. And I'm not even no one from Belmont Belmont better. Not win this game. So we have we have sag it versus man. I'm very. Yeah. It, but I'm very upset. We didn't go with Jeff foxworthy's, brother. Dominic foxworth? So we have Henson versus sagging here, that's a tough one incident sagging, so Maryland's the six seed and the other teams at eleven taking Maryland, we're taking Maryland, we're taking Maryland, we are taking Jim Henson to move on over Bob side. Bob, sagging problem sorry about that. We love you, though, we got LSU shack. Jane carville. Pistol Pete Odell Beckham junior low Jones OB J booger McFarland. Wow. Avid, you know, any of those people do you know how? But I take shocked you James Carville is he's a famous former politician, I guess Kirk politician. He's been in a lot of movies. He's bald these. Nicole strategists. Yes, political strategist. And is that he's exactly and we got Pistol Pete there. We've got be Jay we've got books. I mean, you're going shack. All right. So we got shack. Let's go to Yale quickly here. L has both Bush president hose everyone. She's Meryl Streep the most overrated actor in the history of of acting. You get the hell out of here with her. Give me a break Jodie Foster Edward Norton, Claire Danes, Oliver Stone, Meena kinds. Woo Abby who. I'll take her. She's your co co-host went to Harvard Yale. She went to Harvard. I we're taking we had a cons versus Shaquille O'Neal. Right. Yeah. Today. So we're going to bring in a couple of people famous alarm from both schools on Meena calms was appeared on this podcast more than I have. She is gonna join us. She represents Yale booger McFarland first time on stupidity. Welcome booger. You could check about a Monday night football. He's everywhere on ESPN. He's a massive star much bigger star than I am. And don't think I'm not jealous about that. So listen, I need I need your best college stories mean ACI will start with you the best story you have from your years at Yale University. All right. I am very confident that. The BULLDOGS or whatever the mascot is gonna be u I have not seen a yell basketball game this year. I have been to Yale basketball game ever. I've never seen Joe pets. But I I gotta called who story for you from when I was at Yale which was my freshman year, which was thousand three thousand four uconn won the championship. So you can you guys might know being owner at neither in Connecticut. Stupid. They're they're pretty close to New Haven in stores. So me being an idiot 'cause tune and my friends, and I were like, yeah. Let's go party at uconn going to be somebody lit, although kids didn't say with back then so are like determined to go just have like the like most epic night, partying with the Yukon national champion. You always figure the Kansas amazing. So we get in a car bunch of idiots to drive up. And let's just say we had altered our minds of it before going on this journey. So we weren't in the best brain state. I'm sure the driver didn't in retrospect, so I don't want to, you know, get anywhere. In trouble. So we end up on campus completely just like clueless again with altered mine state. So we say, and I'm like, where's the party? And someone's like, oh, there's a party over there. So we ended up going this party just screaming national TBN, and it kind of felt like like taking shots. I kind of felt like people were not really celebrating with us like they weren't really embrace it national championship. I was kinda confused honestly. So finally, as we're leaving somebody says, you guys know, you're at Wesleyan, right? The whole night partying at Wesleyan. I love it your mind was that altered, you know, altered slightly all the Booker. I gotta tell you me too and Yale University just one a twenty overrun. I mean, I hope he got something as good as that book. You probably do Booker. But I'm guessing you're not gonna tell me most of them. So what do you got? Well, that was a great story. You don't have to worry about incriminating. Anyone that was so long ago these limitations on that story. What I'll say and mine doesn't involve basketball. So this was my sophomore year. Our basketball team was decent. And so members of the football team. We would like to go to the basketball game to watch it LSU Tigers. Well, it's kinda any off season. And you know, what happens in the all season, you work out after you work out you come back to the dorm. What are you going to do? Now. I'm not a drinker. I don't drink. But all my friends that I hung out. We we're kind of you know, semi the hose can so I'm like God. Let's go to the basketball game. They're like, no, we want to hang around for a few brews. I'm like, let's do both. They're like how are we going to take beer to the basketball game? I said I have an idea. So I went to the local little sore little Mark. And I bought jug view, like three jugs your milk. And I brought all the milk. Back poured the milk out. Now, this was this was during the time that board and didn't have the clear milk cartons. They had the white ones. So no matter what. Had no matter what you had in their look what? So we all the milk out. And I came up with a great idea that I feel all the milk jugs full of beer. And so here you have five football players one of the other four just hitting the waste out of their mind. We're sitting third which is screaming go Tigers. And we're taking turns spilling out. She he. Hey, you, Ed. And of course, I'm leading and I'm very sober. And the other guys have no idea where they are about Miller the second. And so I'm like, let's go spill tired say, gee, and then kill Z. And I'm like, yeah. And so we continue to go on and on. And finally, it became clearly obvious that they were neabry idiot. So at that point I have to figure out a way to get them out. And so now I wave one of the managers on the basketball team, and he's like do like what? And I'm like, hey, where's the locker room? And so I found a way to take those those guys through the LSU basketball locker room and out of the stadium. Wow. The game was finishing up. And of course, we got in trouble because they found out coaches found out, and we all had to run the very, Nick. Damn bugger. That is that is a good store and Hetty play by ear, by the way with the milk cartons. Very proud of you. That's a very gutsy and of you. Well, you know, the thing about it when you have friends that you hang out with that are semi haulage, and they wanna drink improvise, and nobody would found upon young athletes raking and a lot of milk. Hey does good right? Yes. Yes. It has in fact that that's that should be the new theme. It's a milk as you just be foam from the beer just across the top. Boettger I can relate. Okay. 'cause I have friends that are full-fledged alcohol. It's all of them every single one of them, including myself. All right. I don't know. I'm still up toward now stands it. Could it we take still don't know who to take. I don't know. I mean who story was better there for you standing and they were both good. I feel like if we ask me which stories better she'd picked Boettger. All right. So I won't allow you to pick this game. Who story was better your own or booger mcfarland's booger? Like an older. True. Yes. He had a dollar a dollar for everyone. That told me that I look like dying Williamson. Refrain that he looked like me trust me. I would love to get a part of whatever he's gonna get in the next. Oh, three or four months from nicer. Listen, I gotta be honest with you. That'd be nice. But I think you're doing just fine in that Monday night football booth. To scoop poverty moving right along Louisville. Mitch McConnell, the Senate majority leader Johnny United's Lamar Jackson Donovan Mitchell or Tom Jackson. All right. So here's the deal authentic. You for clarify who Mitch McConnell is. We appreciate that both of us right out of you had no idea. Donovan a former jet or something with something. Donovan from go. Oh, he's from Louisville. But he's currently playing in the NBA right yet for the jazz, Abby this is. This is go this way because we just went the Salt Lake, right? Mitchell's friends of a friend. That's why. Okay. Okay. Okay. So taking him. All right. So we're taking Donovan Mitchell here, even though we don't like the crowd in Utah berry. Go from Minnesota Bob Dylan. He's a piece of shit that guy goes to camp at Bob Dylan never goes the visiting day his kid goes to work camp. And he never goes to visit that he knows that noticed anyway, Bob, Dole her Brooks. Yup. Walter Mondale anything on that from you didn't think so Tony Dungy. Walter mondale. Is the he's a former vice president, correct? Oh, yeah. Brought to you about that her Brooks was the abbey. Her broken is big her Brooks was the coach of the United States hockey team who upset Russia in the Olympics in nineteen eighty Lake Placid. At Tony Dungy's is a hall of fame coach, she's a hall of fame person hall of fame. Dad who hasn't said a single interesting thing in the history of of his entire life. Didn't he coach on that cats? No, no. I don't really have a preference. You could pick our Brooks there. So we're gonna take her Brooks. And we'll go going her bricks versus Donovan Mitchell. Louisville and Minnesota ripped Patino son going up against Rick Pitino old school Rix going to have to watch this one on tape delay because it's at twelve fifteen we all know Ricky come out during the day. So we'll have to watch his son later on that night. We have her Brooks versus Donovan Mitchell, Abby, I'll let you choose this. What I don't care because I know you like Donovan Mitchell. Yes. She's down them. And so we got Louisville dancing. Here. Stands at last game in the east Michigan state against Bradley Michigan state's options. Magic Johnson live on bell, Adam gays Chris Hansen, duh, obviously at Adam gays. I mean to former Jessica that it doesn't matter. What let's let's well give me the choices on the other end here who they play. They're playing Bradley your choices. There are Charley Steiner or Kirby Puckett. So Abby, I think you're dead audio. I think we love you on bell. He's more famous than either Charley Steiner or Kirby Puckett. We go out and gays, and then I feel like we've tilted the scales against those taking Michigan state. We should be taking Michigan state in this game. You know what I mean? So we'll take Levy on bell. And doesn't matter Levy on bell Kirby. Puckett we're going to have Michigan state advance here right Stanford. We'll go to the west we got Gonzaga against either fairly Dickinson or prairie view. Am Gonzaga is either John Stockton or Bing Crosby John Stockton? Do. You know, we is Abby he played a law. So I- Carmello the mailman Utah Jazz back in the eighties and nineties they came very close to beating the bulls in the finals a couple of times Michael Jordan hit his last shot in Utah for the balls to win six consecutive championship. So that's jots. Not that I believe he retired. When he retired was the leading assist guy in NBA history might still be. So that's at very short shorts and big Crosby had no idea. Do you know who been Crosby singer static is he a singer? Yes. Okay. We'll take the first one and we're gonna take dog anyway. So good point. Yeah. Fairleigh Dickinson, Seth Greenberg, Peggy Noonan or Ron Brill. One of the co founders of Home Depot never heard of them. Okay. And prairie view is either Cynthia Cooper, raise the roof, former WNBA or and or Mr. Teague, oh this club. Is that this today who'd here for the team that we're taking good saga? We're not. Okay. All right from Syracuse. You got Bob Costas, Vanessa Williams. Dick, Clark, Carmelo Anthony. Aaron Sorkin Jim Brown or Sean McDonough. I know you're taking Sorkin, right? We'll sort Abby whose work it is, you know, circuits. Westwood favorite show. Yes. Amongst many other things never taken Carmelo defers one. Who'd you say I. It would either be dick Clark Howard Sorkin, Jim Brown. Jim brandon. Not only the greatest football player. That's ever lived Abbott. You know this. He's also the he's a friend of mine. He's also the greatest lacrosse player that ever lived and grew up in manhasset, New York. All right. So what do you want to do here because the play so all right already? So we agree. We're going around Sorkin Syracuse, even though there's tons of famous alumni from that school great. And then from Baylor who we have so Baylor. It's Mike single Terry. Right. I want winners. Yeah. Michael Johnson the sprinter, right? Joanna Gaines Angela Kinsey from the office. She played Angela right or Trey wingo. Just shut up. How we go. I mean, this is a tough one Abby who what do you want? It. We have an Olympian Michael Johnson. I think the best one. There is Angela Kinsey for us right matching up with Zorkin. I think it's Joanna Gaines. And I'm saying that if some of that doesn't really watch that show. What's the show? It's on H HD HGTV. What is it the chip and Joanna she's got her own line? Now, all those like Lovett in less than an RN. Yeah. All right. If you saw a picture of her, you know, who she nine. Yeah. All right. So we're going to go we're gonna take abbey's a huge fans. We'll take joy Joanna Gaines at Abu to take arid Sorkin. And there's no way we're going to start on this because Abby loves Joanna Gaines. And I love Aaron Sorkin bother date. We are going to bring in Sean McDonough from Syracuse, we're going to bring in Trey wingo, host of Golic and wingo from Baylor. And they're each going to tell us their best story from when they were in college show, Sean McDonough, we will start with you your greatest story from your time. Hopefully, it was four years at Syracuse university. I didn't know that that was going to be the topic. And then I guess we should pick which rated version of these things that we discuss this forum such as this once during a trip only I was a little upset that I kept knocking down nine times with the first ball and the missing spare. So I finally had enough of that site. It's easy way to knock down the one remaining kit with the second was to not roll the ball down there. But for me to go down there by self into a hooks by talking to that that got me kicked out intramural bowling for a couple of months, but we've been just wanna make sure that I'm clear the audience is clear at trays clears does what he has to be because I think you're up twenty at halftime right now. Are you saying we're tired of getting the nine the ten pins? So rather than roll a ball down the traditional way to get your spare? You just ran down the bowling lane. And you knock the it. Good idea at the time until you realize that scene comes down and sweeps, you know, the pens and whatever else into this pit. And as it was coming down. I realized there was a decent chance at my sleep me into the pit. So it evolved a little fixed. Eric in the Jila that I didn't really know that I had then but that like the next ended up. Well, and I did it. We counted fair, which I think is the most important thing. I mean, and that is great like, I I am envisioning. The next person waiting for their ball. The ball doesn't come up with comes up through that little Judy Sean McDonough. I'm glad that I spoke out and to come back and. Tiles with requirements Affi a back on the ball wreck myself instead of the balls being back there on the on the rack for the next bowler to use a couple of my friends thought it wasn't funny idea while I was running down the bowling alley that they would roll some balls down behind too. So I think I was actually struck by one or two of those in the middle of my he grows. What was it head? I it was looks like, but very effective one. Right. And that is a fantastic story a tray. He just went Sean just went on an eight zero run to the half is up sixteen now so Baylor storming being back. Trey wingo your best story while attending Baylor University. Well, a couple of things first of all I have a story that also involves bowling. So I just keep with the theme here at Baylor. You had to have two semesters of Kim, basically, physical education and after my freshman year taking softball the next semester. I decided to take bowling the reason being that was the only Jim Wright didn't have to change my clothes. Those. Fill up about twelve right now. Yes. Yes, he went on a mini four zero run right here. But but Brad. I do I do. Secondly, the gods strong in the I'm in seating victory to show him done up because I wanna make sure I'm invited back was golf tournament. This August because it was a blast. It's summer. So I'm doing this the right way using the stupidity influence to make sure I do this. So I get back to the the invite to the Boston club because we had a great time out there that day was chilling was like one hundred forty that day. It was ridiculous. Yeah. It was not only the warmest, adding and the your boss, and I think it was the warmest place in the history of planet earth, but we're gonna September this year trae, and you'll always be vita a great person. So the last thing I will say one of my great nights in college. Is that a buddy of mine, by the way, go seeker was also named Trey and his birthday was one day for mine. We wanted to go and to the town one nine that's come on. Let's go count. He goes. I can't I told this girl, but I go out with her. I said, here's what you do you call her up on the phone, and you say, I can't go out tonight. And then you've clause and say I have test study for and he goes, but I don't have test to study for and I'm like, right? Exactly. So you're making two separate distinct statements. She'll think they're connected. So you're good. So we went out then. And of course, we ran into the girl that he was supposed to be going on. I mean, it's a funny story. It's not listen, you'll be invited back to mcdonagh's golf tournament for life. I mean because he went from up sixteen down twelve little mini four, Iran. That story was good. But it set you back by twelve point. So we are digging Syracuse year to be billers do body Marquette, Dwayne Wade, Chris Farley, Doc Rivers eight Joe McCarthy, would it mean. Wait. So she say, Abby, Chris Farley. I mean, he's a great eighty. Okay, we're taking that's listen, if you wanna glimpse into how our relationship runs how it works who's the boss of this family there there. It is. Okay. And they're let's do I need to hear about the team that they're playing now. It's Murray state. Their most famous alumnus Popeye Jones also knows the ugliest man never play in the NBA. I think you're taking away to move on. We'll keep it moving floor eight. Yes, they're playing Vermont Florida stays options. Burt Reynolds RIP Sara Blakely never heard of her Jim Morrison Brooks KEPCO, Jen sturdier and Danny canal. Jen surger, Abby forget it. You would. I can't even explain that to you Brooks kept goes the guy who's won back to back US open golf. You know, the beefcake the guy that you think's pretty good-looking that God. Yeah. He's one of third major recently as well. Jim Morrison, you know, who that is a singer of the doors pretty famous, I'll take him. Well, Burt Reynolds is a friend of mine he just passed away. So I feel like we should take and God rest his soul. I love birds so much cannonball, run one of my favorite movies of all time. I think at Danny canal. I mean, he's famous for carrying a clipboard. So I'm thinking I'm thinking we go Burt Reynolds to what do you great who's Florida's? They play they play Vermont, you're off Martin Saint Louis. Ryen russillo. Jack, a route or Dirks Bentley who then transferred to Vanderbilt. Dad? My dad my dad, and my brother both went to the university of Remond based on that list. How about we just move on Florida state advances, thankfully? All right buffalo against either Amazon state or Saint John's Buffalo's options Khalil Mack wolf Blitzer, Terry gross or Harvey Weinstein. Are you kidding me? With Harvey Weinstein will take wolf Blitzer from CNN who's the right choice. You got Arizona state against Saint John's. Arizona state's Phil Mickelson. Don. Don, Don, Don, Don, Abby loves Ville, two. Right. You don't be might be involved in this in this academic scandal. Okay. Abby says he's not. So he's not we got Phil. So we've got Zona state who they who were they play they play Saint John's Chris bowl and j Cole Metta world peace. Mark Jackson or your guy. Mike francesa. A dog dog Mike, but I still take all right? So we got Phil Mickelson versus wolf Blitzer. Here Abby I'm telling you right now. I know you've heard of Arizona state because it's a big school. Buffalo's really really good. So a lot of people think buffalo we're going to advance to the elite eight maybe the final four. So what do you like him? We got we got Nicholson versus Blitzer now. Going Don gap. Okay. We're good. We got Nicholson advancing here. Okay. Texas Tech against Kentucky, Texas Tech options. John Denver, cliff Kingsbury, Cheryl swoops, Wes Welker, Scott Pelley. All right. So there's some football players in their basketball player. And surprisingly, the most fit of all of them is Scott Pelley from sixty minutes. That's my pick while they good-looking along. And I mean, swoops Kingsbury and Scott pellet. I mean, that's that's pretty press. And they play north Kentucky. You're only famous alum George Clooney of Dan. Were just basing this on celebrity. We'd take northern Kentucky right up. Do you want to take northern Kentucky over Texas Tech five? We got including advancing at a lot of people have wrecked me for wrong. A lot of people say I look like George pudding, right? All right. A few more here in this bracket, Nevada against Florida. Abbey's L narrator. Okay. Wow. God is. What did you? Accuse me, of course, I'm thinking Florida. Abby went to school, the university of Florida. Visit you could try it out Colin Kaepernick, all you walk from the vodka. She doesn't know who we govern against Nassar. Who is it announced her? Yes. That's exactly. Yes. Announcer. Yup. Yup. Yup. Let's go to the sidelines. Colin Kaepernick, I mean abbey. Are you kidding me? Do you not know who call him tiny again, he's the guy who took the need for the national anthem, and they banned from the NFL. Area. I knew he was on sports before your dub s. I love you though. I have available by the way. I mean, I'm telling you to bail the ghee, Abby. This guy has more block parties than anyone of the NBA. Wrecking. You f we got it doesn't matter. What anyone else's? We got you up advancing. Okay. US options, by the way. Tim tebow? Marco Rubio, Aaron Andrew Steve Spurrier, Emmett Smith, Laura Rutledge from Michigan Montana. The last game is bracket. Michigan. You have former president Gerald Ford. Tom Brady, James Earl Jones, Lucy Liu Sanjay Gupta. Arthur Miller Charles Woodson. I mean, here's the thing about Brady. He sucked at Michigan. And now, he's the all time. I mean, he's the best quarterback thing about it. Here's the funny thing. I think the people of Michigan or wondering where was this Tom Brady when it was an aunt Auber and they've only Montana Gye Simmons or mardi morning wake boarding morning abbey. Dido that is now in Michigan should know who that is. All right. So we have Michigan advancing. Let's go to the south. All right Virginia against Gardner Webb Virginia. Tina Fey Katy Kirk Edgar Allen POE, Robert Kennedy. So we got Virginia Abby Katie Couric as you like Katie Couric, Robert Kennedy, kind of more famous Tina Fey kind of more famous growl and Puncak taking car garage on the raven was it he wrote. Yeah. Really here's on that defense with Lewis at rid. They're gonna play Gardner Webb. And they're going to beat him the next game ole miss against Oklahoma ole miss Archie manning. Eli manning Michael oher, William Faulkner, Laura's the movie the blind side, Abby. That's like a is on the blindside. Sounds like. I'll take that as as a matter of Cuyler Murray. Baker Mayfield Adrian Peterson to lithium mon- Dari nowkhah who no good deed door Nokia is sportscenter anchor. They taught he's big tub. I call them Doreen Ohkawa like a camera Cuyler Murray is the guy just decided play football over baseball is you'll be the number one pick of the draft Baker Mayfield. You know, who that is? I think he think he's cute at a Livia months. She's pretty hot. So you could pick that manning and that team to win very go Wisconsin against Oregon, Wisconsin JJ watt. Joe Russell Wilson. Charles Lindbergh, Frank Lloyd Wright, bud Seelig Joan cusak, Charles Lindbergh that a school though, dropped out. I don't know he left early to go play the pros. All right, Oregon, Phil Knight, Dan, Fouts tie Barral. Neil Everett you'll ever to sportscenter anchor. I love them. Phil Knight runs Nike abbey. Did you know that Dan? Fouts was the quarterback of one of the great offenses of all time. The chargers air coryell who do you like your Nike? So we have Phil Knight taking. On Charles, Lindbergh, Charles Lindbergh, dropped out and went to the pros early. So Abby who do you like here? I like Nike Kansas state against UC Irvine, Kansas state, Eric Stonestreet or Kirstie alley. Eric still treat, you know. Modern family, very funny. The elephant cheers. So we're gonna take Kirstie alley for Kansas state here. UCR vine, John Lovett's or Scotty Brooks. Gandhi. Once that Scott Brooks as an idiot, those aren't libraries there were his words. Scott Brooks's, a former Oklahoma City coach Kurt wizards coach, and Jon lovitz is a really old washed up bad comedian. We're gonna love it. We have Jon lovitz aweso love. It's versus kearse. The alley Abby who advances here case date. UC Irvine care St. Villanova against Saint Mary's Villanova Howie long. Toby Keith, Bradley Cooper, you should be pointing out Bradley Cooper transferred at Georgetown. He did. He he's not listen he can count if you want. But I probably wouldn't. He's not a true, wildcat, Abby doesn't matter. That's where he started for hot. All right. So Bradley Cooper. I would've went how lawn there. But okay. So who were they play Saint Mary's Mahershala Ali two-time Oscar winner, Tom Candiotti, Matthew delve Adoga Patty mills Della Vedova played with abroad. That's a big games. Lost the NBA finals, Tom Candiotti abbey. Former pitcher for the dodgers many other teams the Candyman who we go with Saint Mary's. I think we gotta go probably on lake right? But it doesn't matter stands it. Because she's picking Bradley Cooper ever Scherer Perdue against Old Dominion Purdue. Neil Armstrong, drew Brees, John wooden Orville reddened Bacher. Ooh. Yeah. All right. We're gonna go. And who's this Neil Armstrong guide, you know, is now idea. Okay. So we're going to take we're gonna take popcorn. He was the first guy to walk in the moon guys. He was really do. You really think he walked on the moon? A lot of people think that's bullshit. You know that right? Old Dominion, just invert. Lander. Ben Bailey, who's the host of cash cab Kent bays more or sportscenter anchor Jay Harris cab cash cab. So we have cash cab versus the popcorn guy. I think we're to take the popcorn right? Cincinnati against Iowa. Cincinnati Oscar Robertson or sandy Koufax. Oh, wow. The big o or sandy my dad's favorite pitcher and my dad's favorite basketball player of all types. We'll take sandy Colfax. Okay. Okay. Iowa gene wilder Ashton Kutcher who dropped out or BJ Armstrong. I think BJ Armstrong the clear choice there. But Abby, I'll go with whoever you want gene wilder. I mean, stir-crazy great actor comedian fantastic coacher. All right. Let's take let's say gee wilder. So we have gene wilder here. Versus who we go with Colfax? We're versus sandy Colfax Cincinnati and Iowa Abby all we'll tell you about this about Cincinnati their coach his name is Mick Cronin. And you might beat mccrone but not before mccrone beating the shit outta yet. We're gonna take Cincinnati agai Tennessee against Colgate. Tennessee Peyton Manning. Reggie White Jason Witten Todd Helen, Alan Houston. Paul finebaum clear. Avocado Paul finebaum. Is. He's the ball guy. Member had to dress up. All right. So we'll take him. So we got fine. Bam. Colgate doesn't really have many people Andy Rooney went to Colgate. Donald foil played in the NBA. But no one really knows who he is. He had a Cup of coffee. Right. And you really ton to knows here. We're gonna take Tennessee here. Right, abby. Yes. All right. So we have we have Tennessee at Paul finebaum advancing onto the the round of thirty tip. All right. Let's take a quick break here from stupidity to tell you about our friends over at ZipRecruiter ZipRecruiter dot com that what I had a real job when I was actually working. 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Let's start with North Carolina and Jona for North Carolina. Who's the most famous of these alums, Michael Jordan, Lawrence Taylor, Vince, Carter Lewis black? Stuart Scott Andy Griffith or Bomani Jones. All right, Abby. Do you have any idea who Bomani Jones's? Yes. With him. Sometimes. Yes, we do the show with he also masters in his a message and economics to lots more than any of us. But who is the most it's Michael Jordan ready to go. All right. So Michael Jordan, and they're taking on I on a who. Do we have for my own Iona? Just Don McLean. Is that McLean McClay Madan? Mclane is that American pot. Yeah. Let's sing. And abby. That's all. Miss American pie. Drove mush shabby to the lobby but the Levy was dry. You don't wanna thinking? Now. Come on. Let's say all right. We got Caroline. You wanna sing it me know? All right. So we have we had Carolina. We have Michael Jordan venting over Dominic late who's not all right. Eight nine matchup Utah state against Washington. Utah state either Harry Reid or Bobby Wagner, do either of you know, either of them are I? No, you have no idea. What Harry Reid is? I don't know who Harry Reid is either. I do know Bobby Wagner. I feel like he's the linebacker for the Seattle Seahawks. Right. Yes. That's correct. Harry Reid was the former Senate majority leader. Oh, of course. Yes. Yes. Okay. So Bobby Wagner? You're picking Washington. Your options are Bruce Lee, Joel McHale, Anna Farris, or rainn Wilson who played Dwight shrew on the office. Oh, wow. Okay. That that explains it, otherwise, I would have no rain Wilson is athletes who can note weather might clad rain Wilson. Let's go at the I think it's will NFL is pretty famous. I think it's gotta be Bruce Lee right now mean karate universally, right? You very wordy today. I take. We have Washington advancing against North Carolina. You don't need to ask me who's going to win that one. It's Michael Jordan. All right. Who we have next dancing? We have Auburn against New Mexico state, New Mexico state only has PASCAL Siachen who plays for the raptors. So he's choice there for Auburn. It's either Charles Barkley. Bo jackson. Cam Newton, Tim apple cook, Octavia Spencer or Frank Thomas. So if he didn't say apple there, would you have known who Tim cook is no same here, Octavia Spencer. Frank Thomas, the big hurt the big irt? What are those commercials? He does. Now, Janice is have you seen those nugenix commercials Abby with the guy in the gym? And he's always like kinda give it, you know, he's. Right. He Frank Thomas at this point is career is better known for new jenex than he is rating. Baseball cap not picking him Charles Barkley. You. Don't trolls. Yeah. You do like drills. Okay. Well, he's on the heat, right? Yes. Charles was on the heat. Yes. He was say ten year member of the Miami Heat jerseys hanging from the rafters just we're bo- Jackson. You know, Bo is greatest player in the history of tuck mobile, we're going to go Barclay here. So like, listen make note that former heat forward Charles Barkley, Abby a big fan static. And we need to get Barclay on the show because do anything for me God Kansas against northeastern your options for Kansas, Paul Rudd Gillian Flynn robbery goal Wilt Chamberlain. Okay. I think is going to go Paul Rudd here. You know? Chamberlain you why? Because he he slept with over ten thousand women. That's exactly why. Okay, good. I mean, you are lot of is lot of Sunday's. And that's like, yeah. That's that's that's a lot of Sunday's taking him because there's the most famous name on the list Dido, Paul Rudd as you like Paul Rudd the actor Paul Rudd yet. If you go the right out, you would know exactly who is from clueless Abby is that help you clueless. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You still wanna go? We'll still sure I mean, many people they don't realize what that dick Dame really stands for the still you know, what I'm saying. Anyway, they're taking on northeastern who we have from on northeastern, Wendy Williams, JJ Berea or LL cool J got an honorary degree. The honorary. I guess is daughter graduated from there. No, he didn't. But at that commencement. They gave him an honorary degree counts. You guys know who L cool j I would take him. Hold on before you pick. You let me remind you who JJ beret is. He is the only guy in the history of the NBA that LeBron James is terrified up. Lebron James Abbe remember first year with the heat. They were up to one against the Mavericks that him in ways sort of shadow boxing in the quarter getting a little head of themselves. They started winning the championship this series got out to this. Lebron any admitted this LeBron James was afraid the post up JJ Berea who was five eight. Okay. I'm telling you. He's defensive stopper. The only guy the history of the NBA to stop LeBron James, you sure, you don't wanna go JJ beret. I'm not going with him. Just because of that loca. I mean, he's a LeBron James stoppers. Who we go with L J, even though it in graduate from there for his daughter. It doesn't matter because we're probably taking Kansas wilty Arete. Right. All right. So we got wealthier. Okay. Iowa State against Ohio State for Iowa State, George Washington Carver I president. Now, this is the peanuts guy. Fred Hoiberg or Colletti assembly. The mayor Fred Hoiberg. Okay. I think we have to go abbey who you want? Here have no preference. We gotta go with George Washington. Corey invented peanuts. Ohio state. Jesse Owens, Jack Nicklaus RL Stein. Bobby knight. Richard Lewis, Kurt herbstreet. Herbie? Abby. Jesse Owens is runner runner Olympian. Bob Knight, the crazy coach the crazy coach, he's an ass. What about Jack Nicklaus? Jack, Nicklaus bear golf. So what do you think you back take jacker Jesse? I go Jesse. If you want to go Jack up fine with that. It doesn't matter. So Jesse Owens? We're gonna go. All right. So we'll take I guess, we'll take the Golden Bear. So we have Iowa State owned state. What do you think thinking, I was stay a carves them up? All right. So Houston Jove. All right Houston against Georgia state for Houston. Dennis Quaid, Jim Parsons, Akeem Alonzo on Carl Lewis, Jim Nance, Fred Couples or art brawls of God, you can go to hell with our Briars. And when you get there, make sure you say hi to for me. I have you know, portions is writing big bang bang theory. That should have been the the name of wilt chamberlain's on a biography. Anyway, Jim Parsons, Dennis Quaid or Bryan who's the devil Hakima lives Yuan, one of the great centers of all time. Although in my personal record book never want an NBA championship. He only one those because Michael Jordan decided to take two years off. We have Carl Lewis perhaps the greatest of all time at able to tell you this all these players are playing for one thing at the end of this tournament. Jim Nance the voice of the tournament. The voice of CBS is going to award the most valuable player his own time gymnasts gives the most valuable player of the tournament tie. It's most coveted award in sports, anywhere sports. How about that? Awesome. All right. So who do we want here? We wanna take Jim portions. Yeah. I'll take him part. Georgia state who we got Georgia states. Either ludicrous or Julia Roberts did not graduate. Why is she on the list graduate a lot of these people went there and didn't graduate? So we're taking Julia Roberts. In fact, I think Abby this is where we'll find that upset here because Julia Roberts at your absolute favorite. So I think we should take Georgia state over Houston. How about that agree Wofford against Seton Hall for Wofford, it's either Jerry Richardson, former owner of the Carolina Panthers or Wendi nix? Okay. So Wendy next works at ESPN, Abby. Jerry Richardson is the former owner of the Panthers. He also has a statue of himself outside of his stadium. It's him in a suit holding his fist out holding a football. And he's got to there's one to the left that wants to the right? It's it's amazing. It's amazing. What a bleep holy is. That's what it means. Okay. All right. Not picking him. We'll take one day next. Who did we have who who do they play? They play Seton Hall your options for Seton Hall are either Chris Christie who got his law degree from their Craig busy. Oh. Piler dick vitelle or Bob Lee bobbly is the best. We have Abby at ESPN. There is no one better when we all need to be credible. We tried out bobbly right back to deal. Right. When he SPN wants to unleash max credibility. What we do is. We only bobbly correct. That's right general, and Chris Christie has no credibility. So dick Vitale abbey where do you wanna go here? Busy as a hall of fame. Baseball player, by the way. I mean normally say dick Vitale by we can do with your credibility personalities or Dicky doesn't really like me. He doesn't let's go Bob Lee here. So we have Bob Lee versus versus Wendi nix. Seton Hall Wofford Adia, let you decide this Seton Hall. We're going to take bobbly over Wendy next twenty don't be offended. Please Abby loves you, even though she has nobody who you are. I last game. Who do we got here? This is it last game. I know he's excited. Final game Kentucky against Abilene Christian Abilene, Christian only has one option. It's char- Kendrick west through the running back in the NFL Kentucky's options. Pat, Riley, Ashley Judd or Anthony Davis. Gotta go Pat over Ashley Judd, Pat Riley, you love Ashley Judd, though. There was a time actually John when Kentucky was making a run a couple of years ago. I think Anthony Davis is team. We're actually job was coming on our show all the time. You remember that? But I still I gotta go with that. I was getting a little too aggressive and she stopped coming on the ship. So we're going to go, Pat Riley. So we have Pat Riley. Really, that's all you could five from Abilene Christian. That's it not a lot of celebs Christian. That is the saddest lists the famous Olov I've ever see for Betty schooled of America. Yep. And up to the jacomb over Kentucky. But I think we have to take Pat Riley right up. All right. So we have Kentucky advancing on to the second round of the NCAA tournament. Let's bring my dad in here. The university of Mont the catamounts they made the NCWA tournament they won their conference tournament. There are good team. There are thirteen seed they'll be taking on a Florida state Leonard Hamilton Dak quickly here because I'm going to have coach Becker on you coach Becker. We'll be able to have a conversation about your university of Vermont catamounts, you graduated from the university of remind, but I've often said that they were two things that were like kind of religious experiences at our house was the masters which is coming up at a few weeks that you would I will discuss that before they teed up on on Thursday at Augusta. But the other was the NC double A tournament, dad. So this was a big deal for me in you growing up. And my brother, we enjoyed it thoroughly that I would ask you what's at that. Don't go back to Lou Synder John wooden because no one gives a shit about any of those teams. Okay. I would ask you though, back in the eighties nineties when I was growing up. What's your fondest NCWA final four championship game? Whatever it is. What's what's a moment for you? You that you were able to share with me. And my brother was Balbina was at Villanova what sticks out to you. Well, I think it was about Vano anyone who was a basketball enthusiasts. Love that story and the other of course, because we do have a connection to the tar heels was Michael shot winning that tournament. Daryl other than that also in involved, the Vermont, you know, winning the the overtime game against Syracuse. At that time, your brother, and I were will call on each other saying, can you believe this? So those are my three favorite moments with that said dad are you excited here? We're gonna bring on the Vermont head coach John Becker. Are you excited Anwar AAC shy of these wonderful job as a coach, and he's put Vermont on the map as as far as being a in the east, you know, getting a shot at the tournament every year. I think you also need to get his team pumped up that you'd get fired up because I mean, they got Florida state and Leonard Hamilton those guys banging around with Zion. Williamson do Carolina the ACC like this is going to be this is a tough opening round matchup, and listen, there's an opportunity here Dacca's. Maybe if you pump them up enough he'll come back on like, we could take Vermont all the way through the NCAA tournament. Why can't they be UNBC of last year? You know, why not you know? They definitely have the capabilities of it to have a tough first round, you know, four versus if thirteen is not easy. No. It's not. No. It's not win one. They did win a Syracuse back in two thousand five they beat Syracuse overtime. So I mean, this guy my dad's stands if he knows his kinda about basketball about that says it just whispered into my ear, and he's right about this. I said you NBC that stands. Well, why don't you tell the audience coach Becker what you just said to me? Well, I said you NBC won one game last year. And Bob you need to settle down with your UVM over Syracuse talk. I'm born and raised in Syracuse New York coach what's up, but you won one game last year. Do I think you meant loyal Chicago. Which made a Cinderella run to the drive to forget sister Jean that hold the Baclig. I listen to you win standing it was essentially like winning a national championship. I know it was only one way. But it's the first time a sixteen beat a one Vermont should have been in there. They lost UNBC in their conference. Final got say mistake this year, but beating a one is a sixteenth static. I would have rather done that then God as far as loyal Chicago did with sister, gene. You know what I'm saying? I disagree. And I bet coaches agrees to coach what do you think John Becker the Vermont had go, Georgia's, right? Alex Dupatta the coach Becker first-team, a sixteen beating a one. Or would you rather go at a similar run that loyal the went on last year? Which what would you rather have him? Get only have one. Well, I gotta stay. I thanks for. But I gotta stay loyal to our fellow conference mates that UNBC say sixteen over a one. Charts? You don't mean that? You don't cut down the nets after one game, you cut down the nets. If you go to. I'm a loyalty guy. I'm a little guy. My you on BBC guess coach. I wanted to. I wanted to ask you because we have STAN Van Gundy on our show is a guest co host every. Yeah, I heard that the other day. It was hilarious. Yeah. Larry. Yeah. And he used to I think it's I go ching job was the assistant head coach at the university of Vermont which. Yeah. Which is pretty cool. But you did an amazing job of coming up with five minutes about bought our team. And about me. It was very very funny. Well, listen, there's you know, it's Dan, and I just peeling back the curtain, and I don't think the Seth greenberg's of the world of very happy with me for doing. It. Jay Bilas finds it a Larry is. But there's just a couple of catch phrases like senior guard play on four wondering, it's underrated coach out. Anyone could do our jobs go anyone can do. It was brilliant, man. I thought so I do find that interesting. I don't know if you knew this about coach Becker. But. We'll go wanted to share with me. And my dad got at your path year because I've read here you had two nine t job you took a pay cut. It seemed like at times in your life being the head coach of the university of Vermont was a tough goal to attain and really the furthest thing from your mind. So if walk us through that the maybe the lowest points and how he became university. Brooke? Yeah. I mean, just quickly. I. I went to school Catholic university in Washington DC and graduate in nineteen ninety. But anyway, for the first five years after I graduated I didn't really know what I want to do with my life and got into some IT work in an association in downtown Washington DC and did that for about five years and realize it wasn't what I wanted to do and mutual friend of mine, Jimmy patios who got me hooked up with the head coach gala that university which is the only four year university for the deaf and hard of hearing in the country, and they play division three basketball located in Washington DC, and I went over there death coach, I didn't know sign language and spend five years at gala debt three as an assistant the last two as a as a bad head coach at that point. And but it was a part time job is only a couple thousand dollars. I was working fulltime computer job at that point. I'd moved onto Georgetown University running their student, computer labs, and and things like that. And and then had to get out sort of family and just couldn't do both jobs. It just it was never home. And so die t- thing was paying better at that point. And anyway, so I did that for a couple of years started a family, and then started to really miss it and got into coaching job at my home amount of Catholic university for a couple of years, and then the head coach at university of Vermont who at the time with Mike. Lana gay who was a alum of Catholic you and a friend of mine offered me a job at at Bramante, director of basketball operations seven thousand dollars. No benefits of thirty eight years old, the wife and two kids and somehow convinced everyone and moved up to Vermont and did that job for a year. And then was we had some money save run a little money. So I had to do it for a second year. And for the second year, the department agreed to give me a part time job in the department fixing. Coaches computers, and you're taking care of the athlete department. IT leads while I did the operation shop also. And after two years a spot on the staff finally opened, and I got bumped up to full time assistant and did that for three more years. And then when Mike longer moved onto George Washington, I somehow was promoted to head coach eight years ago. I guess the rest is history from there. But it's not sure how it all happen. But but here we are. I couldn't be happier down. It's a pretty cool story. It's a great story. I had no idea. I knew some of it about the debt school. You know, when started coach you doubled as a tennis coach. Is that correct? Yeah. When I was at gala that you know in the in the spring, and I was just trying to do what I could to make money, but also to kind of keep the AD and people happy at gala that so they needed a tennis coach. So I ended up coaching tennis for a couple of years. You would never point. I don't know who it was coaching so much as driving the van to the game. And and and make sure the guy said some meal money after the after the matches. But you would never play tennis. Is that correct? No, I never played formal tennis just a recreational player. So it was it was challenging to say the least. Because listen, these two Gotcha Dragen you. I mean, you know, taking a job that you're not qualified to take having never played this sport. I mean, I'm pretty. I really do. Appreciate that. We thought this day in a lot about just how miserable the profession is. And how you guys, you know, your coaches, and, you know, you're you're happy if you win you're miserable. If you lose sometimes you win and you're still miserable. People claim that you never ever smile. But I caught you on camera. In fact, Jake Marsh is a very good friend of mine to play by play guy and say yes, but he sent me a screen shot you actually smiled during a game towards the end of winning the America east tournament is are you going to go are you gonna mitt to smiling during a game? Or are you going to MIT or? No, because I know what you know. What's funny? This has become a thing this year people saying I'm not smiling. And I do have a shitty look on my face. And my problem my whole life. But it's really not that I'm not bad. It's just the look on my face or to speak, and it's caused me a lot of problems people think I don't give a shit and things like that. But that's not really the case. And so I feel like I'm smiling. I guess I'm just not smiling. So I'm gonna work on that. So that people think I'm happy like like, I like, I usually am do you have any other questions here for wish you weigh kind of up tomorrow and great to see a thirteen b two four again. That would be wonderful. Yeah. Like, you mentioned earlier when we were when we beat circus we were thirteen seat. And and we were thirteen last time we were in the tournament against Purdue where we played them pretty tough obviously didn't win, but we're going to give it our best shot and our guys will be prepared and and they'll play hard. And hopefully the ball bounces are way right now. What you say what you want to say, listen, tell coach Becker to go out. And kick Leonard Hamilton's ass. Okay. Let's go. Would you? You know, you with would wet at Hamilton was he down in Miami. For a while. He wasn't Miami. Now at Lawrence. He's a great coach coach backout coach Appleton is a great coach. And when you're that good when you're a four seat out of the ACC with their talent and their size code. There's been there as talented as any team in the country, Florida. Yeah. And whether it Hamilton is is a great coach, it's hard to believe, you seventy years old he or Mendes, and you know, they're going to be a big long athletic team. And they've been through the the grinder of the ACC. So we have our hands full for sure and anti-delhi term. It's so much about matchups. And I don't know if this is a great match up just because of athletically, they they can overwhelm the best teams in the country. And and so we're going to have to be ready for the fight and settle into the game and get a feel for know can't replicate that life, and let us is in practice and in the non conference we played Louisville in Kansas. But I think. Floor state, even bigger and more athletic, and that was a, you know, four months ago, so but we got some tough kids, and they'll they'll stick the nose in there, and they'll be up to the fight. And and see what we can do if you didn't even realize he did it. But you did it and you could replace Bilas when you're done coaching you called Florida state without naming a single player big long talented athletic, and the grinded the ACC. Anyone could do it? From strong senior God play. Yeah. Right. Yeah. Good luck against Florida state. Kick letter DASS, and we'll be here waiting for you right before this wheat sixteen. Okay. All right. Go cats. Go stupidity. All right. Listen to God's army. So we took a week off. We were number one consistently sports in rack we had a blast today, by the way, thanks to everyone who participated, but we took a week off. That's because of the goal IX, aim your fury it then. But here's the deal, we fell down to the forties. And then we came back last week. And we came back strong. We were up as is number five in sports at wreck. I am telling you right now. That's not why we agreed to do this. We want to be number one. All right. So here's what I need you to do. Stand up comedy teams are in the NCAA tournament. How many teams we have? Well, it's a bracket of sixty four. There was sixty eight sixty four to sixty four. Here's what I need you to do. I need you download I need you to subscribe rate and review and then unsubscribe resubscribe rerate review. I need every single person in the stugatz. Army to do this sixty four times each sixty four types one time for each team in the NCAA tournament. 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