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"michael malice" Discussed on Part of the Problem

Part of the Problem

05:30 min | 3 weeks ago

"michael malice" Discussed on Part of the Problem

"Yeah i guess there will be even you know even assuming again we're kind of zooming he could find a way to pull this off but assuming he doesn't. Yeah you're right. He's not leaving the public eye anytime soon. The guy's a monster. Just co vet He's he's fine. He's tremendous health But so you know one of the things that that also is kind of on full display here. If you care to see it which. I'm sure you obviously do see But of course people get very emotional rand elections. And that's that's also part of the reason. Why libertarians get really angry at me when i when i criticized jo jorgensen the very emotionally invested and the same all of the stuff that People were loving in two thousand sixteen when you saw all of the young turks and msnbc people freaking out and the the lefties screaming in the streets and all of that Now it looks like the she is going to be on the other foot. And it'll be trump supporters who are furious and all of that but to anybody who's like kind of a critic of democracy. You just see how ridiculous this whole thing is the idea that like fifty thousand votes in wisconsin is going to determine which side of you has to be miserable like fifty percent of the country have to be crying tonight and the other fifty percent get to rule that other fifty percent. And you're like this is all just so absurd this is like how could we possibly think this is the best way to run a system. The only way of entitled to have my juicy implemented as if they're really popular people who are geographically. Proximate to me. It's just bizarre. Yeah yeah they're very very bizarre The other thing. And i like you know me and you talk about a lot of you. Know a lot of the podcasts. We've done over. This year has been about the topic of breaking binary thinking patterns. Sure and one of the thing. That i've been thinking about a lot lately is that i really do think that quite possibly for the for the real anti-trump that trump is hitler type or they're the people who call say trump is a fascist. And all of this. I really think it would behoove them to consider the possibility that trump was actually a hedge against a right wing authoritarian. And that. You know it's like the point that you made many times. i love this point because again it just explodes. Binary thinkers minds. But when you would go the. Nra is the moderate. They aren't being got and just pointing this out because they have it in their head that it's like actually you know donald trump like i was saying this on the last. Donald trump was the biggest middle finger in the room. And all these right wingers and the republican parties were like yes. We will take the biggest middle finger now just for a thought experiment. Imagine there was a big middle finger. How how much further. How much further do you think they would have been willing to go. And can i guess is quite a bit of data for this. Do you know the governor of montana last night. No two thousand and seventeen greg. Forty was a congressman was running for. Yes i did restaurants. He there was a tweet from the bed jacobs journalists. He tweeted out. Greg forty just body slammed me and broke my glasses. The media went out and tried to find any voters who were changed. What or another by the fact that congressional candidate literally assaulted a journalist right. it didn't even deny he. They could find one voter to change their mind. He ran he thought he was convicted of assault correctly. You don't remember up people at just yesterday. He was elected governor up on yup. No so it's like there's look the truth. Is that this. This is what i see. And i think this is one of the big fears Going forward in america. This is one of my major concerns and this has been for a while one of the major reasons that i hate the woke identity. -tarian left is. There's a lotta shit that they do that. I think horrible. I also think what they're provoking on. The right is truly dangerous. And the i think that with joe biden. What you're going to get is higher. Government spending more federal inter more fed of federal reserve intervention in the markets low interest rates and relentless woke lecturing. And i think that this is really a recipe to push people toward a real right wing authoritarian. And if you ever get a real right wing authoritarian all these people calling trump hitler notice oh actually trump was essentially an eighties democrat and you guys thought he was fucking hitler. He was literally in eighties. Democrat just was in for open. Borders was a little bit skeptical about war not unwilling to fight wars but a little bit skeptical about being involved in every single war and and wasn't politically correct. It's basically what an eighties democrat was. He was right in line. Could've run in one thousand nine hundred on his exact platform and gotten the support of labor and the democratic party and in fact he was a democrat in the eighties. That's what he was and they called him. Hitler and just just saying you guys are really. It's like you have a recipe here to actually push people toward a right wing authoritarian. And that is a concern. And i think for Libertarians Or people like us in this space. That's one of the things that we've got fight with people on the right about Hans hermann hoppe's said at one point that he goes the right wing is on this path where they can either pushed toward decentralisation or toward a right wing authoritarian and..

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"michael malice" Discussed on Part of the Problem

Part of the Problem

06:40 min | 3 weeks ago

"michael malice" Discussed on Part of the Problem

"Happen to you all right. Let's start the show. We need to roll back the state stein on all of our own citizens. Our prisons are flooded with non violent drug offenders. If you wanna know who. America's next enemy is looking at funding right now. Every one of these problems are vulcan government. Went to bed did you. What's up everybody. Welcome to brand new episode of part of the problem. Of course i am dave smith. There was a big election Last night i did not watch it deviates. Please no spoilers. We're going to talk about other things today. What is your favorite book. I'm kidding we're gonna do election. Recap and i am a. I'm very happy to be joined by the person who i've had on this show and bit on his show more than anyone else This year And there's really nobody. I'd rather break all of this This this stuff down with then. The legend michael malice. How are you sir. I'm going to disappoint you. Because i don't you know i was thinking earlier today. Like people look to us. Like what is this all made. And i don't think i got nothing. That's it our show. Everybody that's always the show or for real. Yeah it's a little bit more thinly veiled. We have nothing for you. Well what did you do you. did you stay up. did you watch last out. I mean i. I love this shit. I'm it's uncomfortable with how much i love it. I think i'd be the one who'd be all giddy. I just woke up today. Like all fatigue for some reason. I don't know what it is. Maybe maybe the chaos forces are drying out of exciting distribute through the country. I am very glad. I am very glad that the republicans kept the sect because my two biggest concerns. Were things like court packing And just having not any kind of check on president so if the republicans are keeping the senate which looks like it's almost a certainty as we record I don't really care too much about the come this this this was full. It's really funny to me. Is this belief they really think that since trump is pure evil and white supremacy the encouraging everything that's bad therefore by narrowly whoever defeats to miss the opposite of this. If you think joe biden is going to you know bring the sixteen nineteen project to america. And this whole kind of like tumbler. Ethos like i don't see it at all. I also think that people say well. It's not joe biden controlling him. The people control him stop bernie through him and auto trail. He's been very vocal about shutting down the left east and this was during the primaries. Yeah there's you know there's a the i've been talking about this a quite a bit lately but the the narrative for the talking point that donald trump himself has been saying you know that basically joe Joe biden will be a trojan horse for socialism. I mean that might work to get some cubans in florida. Vote for you like it might be an effective campaign strategy. I don't know but in terms of the reality of it it's it's really stupid The idea that when joe biden gets in there plus three will really be calling the shots or any of that this is all bullshit and and your point is is a very good piece of evidence that actually the party freaks the fuck out when they thought bernie sanders might be the nominee. Joe biden is not going to be a trojan horse for socialism. But joe biden is in many ways His his administration will represent kind of a nexus of bush. Cheney i'ts democratic establishment types. Cia types big business big banks big tech and woke capitalism. That's what joe biden's administration represents it's not any of the fucking. It's not Omar that's not who's gotten in. I am very concerned about the war machine. By far biggest concern he is a hog and he also does not seem like a strong personality. So if the issue is which is more likely for joe biden to be the puppet of you know nefarious forces supply of low. You know nonsense or we need to have. Us intervention abroad. I think the second is much more likely given his history. I mean they couldn't even really get obama to pull off like a lot of the stuff that if they had their druthers that they would have had so he was raised in that hot. Taxis pure function of ivy league figuring an ivy league schools. That's his entire identity of so it's it's kind of interesting to see when you hate trump so much and you think everything is a function of trump again united. So this many times they really think that once trump goes away. It's like it's like hog wild. I'm just thinking about nineteen sixty eight seventy two when the republicans alike finally got nixon the white house and he just delivers every single. Lefty victory imaginable. Affirmative action the epa bussing normalize relations with china and raising costa chairman mao affirmative action price controls controls controls off the gold standard soviet things. He did but he is them. It's like i think people are too young to remember what it was like when you had bill clinton with the republican congress and when he came into office he was pushing for gays in the military and by the time he was leaving he was having federal amendment banning gay marriage. So i i don't know how biden is going to be a. I think we're gonna be. I think by inauguration new your times is going to do beheading articles that twenty fifth amendment and. I think this might be the first time in our lifetimes when the cathedral turns on a democratic president if i become president well that that's interesting by the way i should. I should say that it's not a given biden. Hasn't won the election yet so this is not a. It's not a right now. Let me just hold on check as a i. I like to look on these betting sites. They have his team trump sector. Data fifteen percents. He actually pulled back up now. This one bedding so action network dot com.

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"michael malice" Discussed on Part of the Problem

Part of the Problem

08:06 min | 4 months ago

"michael malice" Discussed on Part of the Problem

"Let's get back into the show. And there are other things to which I remember. This is one of the things that I struggled with a little bit like during the rise of the alt-right, like in two, thousand, sixteen, two, thousand seventeen. Is that it's very hard to really accurately label people talking about the leaders in the movement. Who put their views out there you can, you can judge their views, but when you see people online. You know it's like. Is this a troll? Is it really a a Neo Nazi? Is it someone who's just kind of like saying? Throw the Jews in the oven. Because that's the most outrageous thing to say, that will get a big reaction. I guess I'm just describing a troll. But. Or. Is this a troubled teenager? You know like you just don't know what any of these things are. And the same is true with a lot of the Marxist types. You know some of these people are straight up looking for power and put me in you up against a wall. If they ever got that power, some of them are just misinformed. Some of them are kids some of. Of them just don't know this history and just kind of believe in the Marxist light, vision or something like that, so it's very hard, and it's a really bad president to set to start saying you know well anybody who calls themselves a Marxist or anyone who calls themselves all right or any of these other groups are now open season for violence. It's just like it's very imprecise. But the situation in Portland is different and I think that the key distinction is that it's not really about their views. It's not really about whether they're a Marxist or fascist or a Democrat or Republican or an anarchist or anything else the issue there is that there apart of a violent mob. and. This is where things get a little bit trickier because you know. justice is a very individual thing. You know that that's why social justice is such a horrible term just as an individual You know thing it's. It's Ju- where you initiating violence. Was this person just in the way they acted? But when you into a mob, it becomes next to impossible. To to. You know sort this out, and if you're in a mob, that's being violent and you're like well. I was just being peaceful yet they are. There's almost no reasonable way for anyone outside to parse out. Who was the violent one? And who was the the mob? Now? If you this is how I feel like I, think you have to judge it within reason so if you are at a peaceful protests and a few people start getting island. Okay you can have a legitimate claim go. Hey, I was just out here and protesting. These people got violent, but if it's been violence for days and weeks and months, and you're still participating in this mob at a certain point I do feel like you kind of lose the right to say hey. I wasn't the one who is throwing these bricks through the wall and go will the only reasonable action again in my theory of? Of this cancers work on paper. It has to work in reality. You can't just say well then I guess we gotta let this mob tear down all of civilization, because we can't tell who the aggressors are because they're all in masks and a huge group together at a certain point, it's going to be like no. This mob needs to be put down and I would advise you get yourself the fuck out of the mob. It's IT'S A. Right at it's kind of like well. Did you see how she was dressed? If you are going to an event and wearing signals that identify you as the group that is engaging in this illegal unlawful violent dangerous behavior You made an effort to become part of this organization at that point yet you are going to have and you I. Don't think any of them. you know like I mean earlier. I don't think any of them expect to be treated as Tagore by police. They'll invoke the constitution because they think they're. Untouchable because that's of use to them right deep down I think they understand perfectly well that the cops absolutely are going to the cops fascist. Why are you surprised that carting you away in Alabama? This is like Randy. Marsh on southbound Gosar his America, so. It is America and America has a history of when things get Outta hand. It takes a while to get there eventually. Someone's like all right. We're done here. We're taking action. And just to be fair. I mean even in an anarchist society, if a mob of people were to storm onto your property, and then you start using whatever violences necessary to contain the situation i. don't think someone there if the mob was violent I. Don't think someone there could claim, but I wasn't violent. Therefore, he initiated violence against me. It's like she had no reasonable way to know. When there's other people in the mob in Europe part of this mob so I. Agree with that. It's also if you think Donald trump that back to the current situation if you think Donald. Trump is a fascist. Surprise. You is how long it's taken him and still how weak this alternate! Is To put this down. I mean fascist. Governments. Authoritarian to Taliban governments have a lot of problems, but one of their major problems is not like ongoing violent protests with no response to it. That's usually not what like you look at North Korea and be like man. These unruly street criminals just burning things down right. Right so i. mean you know it's like that? There's this like hilarious irony that these guys are actually the proof that Donald Trump in what they say he is. You know of course, and this has been true for the corporate press as well I mean the corporate press like Donald. Trump's a Nazi. Literally the entire corporate presses against him like that's usually not the hallmark. Yeah of air. Regime. So, I guess get the headlines this just in our leader is awesome, right? Yeah, exactly, there's literally no I mean. He can't even control Fox News. Load Eddie of this other stuff, which maybe we'll talk about that in a minute as well. But, so there's you know with with the situation in Portland again. I, I certainly am concerned for the president. That's being set although I, don't know that this is a brand new precedent. You know it's not as if these people are being disappeared, and not giving trials or anything like that. It just seems like federal agents are coming in I. Think it's bad that the federal government is the one doing it. It's not the preferable situation and you know I'm sure they will end up getting some other people, but as we were indicating before I just don't I don't feel like if you're a part of a violent mob, which they absolutely are either. To batons tear gas and beatings. Yeah, the alternative, and while I will also say I'm almost a little bit neutral about attacking a government building. I, don't really you know it's not really legitimate property there either. You Know No. No government property in my mind is really legitimate property, but it's not really yours to destroy, either you know it's kind of this weird gray area, and it's like they're not gonna saying we're alway destroying the government buildings of we respect these vomit pop shops. This is a principle that's not the same. Yeah, and it's just. It is difficult to work up a lot of sympathy for some group of people who go and start like you know trying to burn down the courthouse when the cops are GonNa, come and fuck them up and and. And and it is you know what is interesting is actually how much the government is treating them with kid gloves and I talked about this a bit, but like I wonder if some of these left as do understand that number one. The government can squash you like a bug and number two the second they decide. You're not useful to them. They will. Yes, I was telling people like look at Waco. Look at these other examples if they want to. They'll just fucking murder you and move right along. Move on with their their day and go on, TV. And accept full responsibility and have no consequences..

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"michael malice" Discussed on Part of the Problem

Part of the Problem

06:14 min | 4 months ago

"michael malice" Discussed on Part of the Problem

"I've noticed this before, and I'm sure you have to that oftentimes when a leftist or or a right winger. They will play on Libertarians desires to be consistent, even though they are wildly inconsistent themselves. There's still this expectation that you have to be really consistent so a whole bunch of like big government liberals feeling the wrath of big government like that. That's just completely. Put aside, but you Mr Libertarian, it's almost like a soft admission that we know you're the only ones who care about being intellectually consistent, but it's still digs at libertarians, because it really pain them to be intellectually consistent. So I WANNA I. WanNa get your thoughts on this, but I wanted to mention quickly that so eric July did a a long stream about this the other day. By the way July is just a that guy's a fucking legends. I. Just I I love that guy. And his take, which I don't think I completely agree with but I. Certainly get his point. His take was basically that he he says to these calls for Libertarians to defend these these. Writers protesters. Many of whom are communists. He's like they would never defend me in a million years, and so I just look at it like two competing gangs and staying out of it, and I have no obligation to defend anybody a involved, which is largely a fair point, but I just wonder. What do you think Michael Malice when you see federal agents in unmarked cars of snatching people claiming that you know will, this person was about vandalize a government building or something, but you know really love taking the government's word for these things but how? How does that like? How do you feel about that situation? There's a name that I was just looking up while you were talking which something you said. Remind me of its Pajama boy. Drawing Pajama, boy, and he says you should let in more refugees because Jesus said to be compassionate in the Bible somewhere. No I'm not a Christian and I have nothing but contempt for your backward. British beliefs, so yeah, this argument work on me, but maybe if I use it on you, you'll do what I want, so yeah, it's a very disingenuous argument first of all. If. You are going to accept the premise which I think I would that. The government has the right to protect its buildings. There is no way that that happens where it visually looks nice and relaxing I don't see a scenario where it's like you know like go home. Oh, okay, officer, like that's not a thing, so then the question is and people hate trade offs, because as soon as you bring up. Trade offs was their minds and released the swimming. How do you do this to minimize? Damage Conflict de escalate as much as possible one of my favorite fish if I was going to get a tattoo, this is going to be one of my tattoos is in Anglerfish, and anglerfish doesn't move. It looks like a sponge and it strike. It inhales fish it should set. Its mouth is the fast motion in the Animal Kingdom and it strikes so quickly. You can't even see in a slow motion attic. Take fish out of a school and the other fishermen even notice that quickly the point being if you have a group of a hundred people. Right you WANNA go hundred COPs, two hundred cops one hundred people. That's not going to be nice. That is going to be horrible nightmare scenario, but something that the Soviet this myself. Your brain is going to kick in now. something. The Soviet Union realized very well is if you take out and they did this at some university i. my friend told me about twenty years. Years ago. I don't remember what the circumstances was. But basically there was university where all on strike, and this is what they did, instead of taking out like the ringleader, and like his lieutenants, they randomly expelled people and then everyone's living in fear, because the bottom tier people, the people that top leaders are like I'm GonNa, be the one the frontline on the taking the. On, the brave one than everyone else can jump on the bandwagon because they're not scared. They get all yeah, yeah, yeah, or against it, but now when the people who are the followers have to face consequences. They scatter really fast because that is were will. I didn't sign up for this, so it's a very effective tactic to pull out. People at seemingly random because that serves to. To instill fear an irrational fear in the larger population while using a minimum amount of force now obviously I am not a fan of the state grabbing people and vanishing them somewhere I. Don't think on the other hand. I would have felt much differently if it's a cop car with sirens and they're trying to blue I. don't see how that is the distinction there is no. Dispute that these were you know whatever you want. Duly whatever agents of the state, so they're either as legitimate as the cops were as illegitimate as the cops, the point being. The premise that this is a states, rights issue or the local police have to wants to doing it okay well. The local police aren't doing it right so when they don't do it i. mean this was the issue. A lot of people constantly talk about not incorrectly. Lynch law, which is the local police in the local juries and local judges, sat on their hands, while black people and white people were murdered publicly murdered, and then they were arrested or force. Be Arrested majorities like I. I don't see anything wrong here and then you had to have on some level. You'RE GONNA. Make this call. The federal government come in it'd be like South Federal Crimes because these people are not facing consequences on the local level. There's a very very broad analogy here where it's like all right if you have the people who are being told to stand down or the barely powerless to put a stop to this at some point either eat, there's choices easy. Send in the feds. Or you sit in your hands and things either fizzle out or more more likely things are going to escalate and spread to other areas. I. Let's take a quick second I wanNA. Thank our awesome sponsor for today's show, which is real paper? Real paper is here to make sure you never run out of toilet paper ever again. No more emergency trip to the store, no more.

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"michael malice" Discussed on Part of the Problem

Part of the Problem

06:59 min | 4 months ago

"michael malice" Discussed on Part of the Problem

"Feet all right. Let's start the show. We need a rollback state. We spy on all of our own citizens. Our prisons are flooded with non violent drug offenders. If you WANNA know who America's next enemy is. Look at were funding right now. Other than one of these problems resulted government being way, too. Bed? Hello. Hello, what's going on, everybody, let this be y'all's howdy for a brand new crossover between me and the Great Michael Malice. My brother, I was just thinking about how interesting it is that neither of us give each other the heads up about what we're. GonNa talk about yet. It's never a problem and I realized that's not normal. Is this your first clue that we're not normal people to the extent that like. If you tell a regular eleanor enormity like I'm going to have you on this show. You'RE GONNA. Talk about literally possibly any political social issue and they would crap their pants just. Yeah now not once through this entire crossover thing have either of us asked the other one what we're going to talk about. When we're the other one show disgust, it had any indication although there have been a couple times where I was like I could Kinda Guess AG-. I was like I. Bet was GonNa WanNa talk about this this week, but then. oftentimes no clue. I like that. Yeah, but it's. It's I I realizing that we're not as pathetic as I thought. Look, at that slightly less pathetic, slightly less failed. We started the new LP slogan. By the way I would gladly settle for slightly less failed out of the pay. If we could just get slightly slow the ever. Instead? It's very failed. Political party largely failed largely felt pretty failed we'd be. That's what we're shooting for a decade away from pretty failed. Actually I will say just a quick aside that I saw someone posted in my private facebook. Group a campaign ad for Jordan. Cohen and I thought it was great. Video with the war. Bring you hope. The jets is Great I. I actually thought it was really really good, and that's exactly what they should what they should be doing the. Is Far as concerned about the libertarian presidential nominee. Don't even jump into the culture. Wars don't get caught up in these silly things. Stand ten feet above all of that and go look, this is all silly. Here's what we're GONNA do. We're going to end. All of these wars were not an empire where republic In the bill of rights, we don't want to prosecute people for nonviolent crimes. The debt is out of control. Just focus on these issues that nobody else is serious about that are really really important issues, and that's my best. Anyway you would say is they? Yell at each other in front of your face, and then they laugh at you behind your back. Yes. and. You put it in any go budgets. And you have clips Bush. We're GONNA cut the budget Bush one Bush two accountability and every year. The budgets go up. Lie To you, and then they laugh about it. Show, a nice little picture of Michelle. Obama given George W A, hug, or any of this dollars. Just like yeah, they're all. This is the old George Carlin Line? It's it's a big club and UN in it. There was this the one of the most devastating of political ads I've ever seen which was entirely out of character was Ron. Paul's hit. Add on Newt Gingrich and it's like ninety seconds long two versions of it and you watch it, and it's a I've never seen such an asked last thing in my life and he just goes. Like he goes. HOW STARTS ITS FRAME BEAUTIFUL? Structurally speaking as a writer like starts off with the corporate, saying like a president needs to have a B. C., n., d., and then he goes a it just goes through how he contradicts that be, and it goes through all that see him hugging Nancy Pelosi. D At it's just like Holy Shit. It was like a legal brief I. I encourage everyone to look for this Ad. You'll watch it and you'll be like, oh my God, yeah, I remember it. I was I remember like cheering when I saw the AD twenty twelve, I was I was like wincing, because it was so brutal. Yeah, yeah, and he would I mean you know it's funny, too? Because Ron Paul was such like kind older woman. But so when he attacked it almost and obviously someone else made the you know his campaign, but it's still just felt like that much more powerful. It was kind of like when you're really cool. Teacher was upset with you. It would hurt a lot more than just head teacher. You know like it was. It had that type of that type of energy which was great, Okay, so what I wanted to discuss today that I didn't brief you on was What's going on in Portland L., which has been a really interesting? situation on many different levels, and if for people who don't know, there has been some videos that have come out of federal agents It started with some videos of federal agents in unmarked cars, walking up and Kinda snatching. People who are involved in the mayhem of what's going on there I I feel weird calling it protesting, because it's really kind of a different level than protesting. And the the media jumped on this as you know trump's and Nazi type angle pretty predictably. and. Of course, the media isn't really talking about how. There's been chaotic violence for like a month now in Portland and they kind of leave you with this little clip it. It took a little bit of reporters. Digging into it to figure out exactly what's going on. It's now been confirmed that it was a Department of Homeland Security is a border patrol kind of the equivalent of their Swat team coming in and grabbing people They say that this is a legal under federal law because they were vandalizing a federal buildings. And then there were a few people on twitter. A few blue check marks who are criticizing Libertarians saying. Oh, where are the libertarians who should be outraged over this stuff You know you're supposed to be the guys who fight for this which? So many levels there that George Floyd vigil. Right yeah, exactly well camera probably not completely untrue. Picture Day remember she was there. no I, remember and there's probably plenty more so there were. There were a lot of things that I thought were interesting about this situation number one..

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"michael malice" Discussed on Part of the Problem

Part of the Problem

04:12 min | 7 months ago

"michael malice" Discussed on Part of the Problem

"This is a cultural issue about race coming to its own and how it's going to present itself perceive itself and that's fascinating When it's like all right we can't blame slavery more. What the fuck are we gonNA do with ourselves now and they were asking themselves this question to see that you know how they handle this a hundred years ago to me is very fascinating and I know everyone talked to. I mean. This isn't a profound statement. People find history fascinating. It's a generally interesting subject to learn about. You know people past how things handled in the past. It's just so there's so much there. Yeah yeah one hundred percent all right. Well that is our that. Is Our episode for today. Michael in this episode about your favorite topic which is you. What was your favorite part My favorite part of this episode was That was good You talking about talking to the police. I think that is such an important thing. He's our important for people to realize that even if you're full pro-police which there's many reasons to be I can understand some of the claims people make are just so even on our side are soap. Sorta their face like. Was You talk about it? You start to laugh. You're like I can't believe people would just take two seconds this and not realize it. Well you are part of the problem all right guys. That's our episode for today. Thank you guys for listening will be keeping these up as long as the government is keeping us inside piece all right guys. Thanks so much for listening to today's show before we leave. I just wanted to say you know. A lot of people are always asking me about other libertarian. Podcasts that are out there. Which ones do I recommend ye? I know a lot of times these days. People have a lot of time on their hands. So I wanNA tell you about the peddling fiction podcast. It's a funny and Informative Libertarian. Podcast from Roth Bardy and radical. I checked out a couple of episodes. I think you guys are really going to like with Johnny. Feta has to say in his most recent episode he explores the Fed intervening in the stock market. And how the market is somehow going up while investors pulling out. I really think you're going to enjoy his podcast. And it might give you something to do while. You're harassing Brian. For whatever thing you think he has gotten wrong. Which is usually my fault. Anyway CHECK OUT. The peddling fiction podcast. This is a lying politicians. Worst nightmare destroyer of Keynesian economic fallacies. The link is right here in the episode description. And we've got a short trailer that That we're GONNA play for you right now. Anyone claiming that America's economy is in decline is peddling fiction and Libertarians are better Democrats than the Democrats and Republicans than the Republicans Republican President Republican controlled. Congress presided over the base expansion of government up to that point. Mr. What's going to happen? When they realized that social security is nothing but a racist sexist. I mean how badly do you have to screw something up before we finally conclude that government can't solve this problem? The free market is the ultimate expression of democracy. I do the show two days a week. Free Show you sure you don't WanNa see some evidence to back up any of their claims before you get us into another war. Their entire existence is exploitation. Everything they eat everything. They drink the roof over their heads. It was Paul Trade for from thefts at the threat of violence. Isn't it interesting that education system run by the government? Somehow churns out a bunch of people favor. The government everything. That's the type of accounting that would get you thrown in prison if anybody else where to do it. But that's how the federal government operates.

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"michael malice" Discussed on Part of the Problem

Part of the Problem

13:35 min | 7 months ago

"michael malice" Discussed on Part of the Problem

"Pocus anymore like I was GonNa Rescue. But not he said those. Don't tell anyone it's not eating out. Were you order off the menu and you get like animal style. Whatever that's not how it works. They really also think that like a cop would never lie under oath in court right like if you if you say. I'll I you know like they never claimed to evidence they would never back each other off now. You may say then. That's what it comes down to. So they'll be something where you just go. Oh I didn't give them permission to search my car and the COP can't go. He did just that simple. He did not only that. He can't do it that he would do it. Fragment Back Right. And of course. And then the other the other major flaw to me with objective. Law The ideas that I don't actually think there can be objective. Law and I think law is inherently subjective to some degree. Now that doesn't mean there can be worse laws than others or more immoral laws than others. But the so I I would agree with. Ayn that there is objective morality. I do agree with that. I think you could say something like Murder is objectively wrong or rape is objectively wrong. Or you know lots of different things that are objectively immoral but law involves not just saying something's against the law there also has to be a punishment for the law and a enforcement of the law. And that's that gets into very subjective territory like okay so it's easy to say. Rape is objectively immoral. But what should the punishment for rape big? Now that gets into a very weird subjective territory. It's not as if we have some objective answer like well now the CIA gets to rape you or something like that and now. It's like like this. That doesn't really solve the problem. So should you go to jail for three years or seven years? That's pretty subjective if you ask me so now who's going to determine that well it's going to be some group of humans who are kind of flawed and so. I just to me like a a really at the heart of the anarchist position is like this is why it kind of needs to be decentralized completely this should be agreed upon by the parties that engage in activity and not by some authority figure up somewhere who just decrees. This is the way Okay so you you said that you went from you. Went from Republican to full anarchists. Was there were there like stops along the way there. I think it wasn't that I think it was more than I was like. A hard core. Libertarian who was rooting for the Republican Party. Okay and who saw as a mechanism both to fullback the state end who saw it as a mechanism to upset really horrible people which it is often affect doing well look Donald Trump's proof of that. Yeah anything like the people. Elect a real Paul Lindsey Graham. They've been doing it to it's at Ted Cruz to hilarious effect but again just seeing that there's Think people I think I mentioned before but I really WANNA BE. People's heads before nine. Eleven they were talking about going to Iraq. This was very much part of the parliament of the day. Are we are? We not going to go to Iraq and finish the job that George H W Bush started. They talked about it constantly. So the fact that this was their priority you know was very very telling. I mean you have to judge people by how they behave by what they say. No no no. You're right and that's that's a you know it reminds me of. I mean there's lots of different examples but most recently where Di Blasi. Oh has appointed this commission to make sure that when New York City reopens. We Open in a more racially equitable manner. And you're like no. This has nothing to do with the crisis at hand. Obviously but this is just what he already want lost today. Okay sure s case. People want to people have their plans and when they have an opportunity really and I had already made the de Blasio point this let the Blasi already wants and this is what de Blasios already wanted from before this whole situation so it's very obvious. They have their goals. They have their their plans and then if they have an opportunity they go ahead with them. Yeah this is why I wrote that. I save for the Guardian. Why won't vote this year and I said they were going to start with their conclusions and democracies mechanism for them to for the way in that direction. Actually one thing that really did help my intellectual development. There was a file of webpage called the heretics bookshelf. I think it's the floating around in the way back machine and it was the list of books you're not supposed to read and I read all of them so it was a like a red pill. Bookshelf on every issue on the alternative perspective and going through. That thirty really helped me Understand politics and culture differs her way. So since you became a full blown anarchist since you were diagnosed with full-blown. Nrk as I also suffer from. There is no cure but there is treatment available. There is There's no there's no cure but you can podcast about it and that keeps you alive Through the years and you can gain weight on it's Great But what would you say so in the last? How long what year did you say you were like England? Humorous came out in two thousand six at there and so that less than twenty fourteen. So this is a while okay so since then. I've read it okay. So so since that time what would you say are have there been any like major issues that you've changed your mind on. Yes I think one that. I'm changing my mind. On is atticus by definition. Think the government's the enemy and I'm starting to realize more and more how much more nefarious the corporate pressed. The universities are compared to the government itself. And that the hatred for like a Pelosi or Chuck. Schumer is a little misplaced That they're just kinda shells and they're serving certain interests and they're not the ones like Congress that let's IT Congress Spanish tomorrow adventure tomorrow you would still have a big issue with outlets like the New York Times really doing a number on the population at large and training them very Nefarious ways so that is something that I guess. I'm not changing my mind change. You might fry already is one. I think another thing I've seen in my lifetime is that I've tried my best to help with this. I know you have as well. Maybe not consciously is when I first got into this whole scene one thing. I was very aware of is there. Were all these a communist party meetings or like Green Party meetings like back in the day. Nba These old hippies with these handmaid's signs enemy really sad and will be these books of Rando Lettuce strike in the nineteen twenties. And they're trying to make him out to be a hero and I'm like this is not the business and I'm like A. It has to be a scene where there isn't much of a stigma or social costs to attract people toward it right I think the Internet enormously has helped make that happen and that is really a wonderful effect like I think You know most people who are in any way. A fringe thinkers online. There's lots of different schools. Of course they're all familiar with anarchists thought. So that is that's where all the innovation comes on the fringes. Daddy something that I think is really kind of an excellent thing And also just how despicable many of these conservatives the Buckley type conservatives are just bad people on a fundamental level because their views because of their personalities and how they behaved their views are fine. They're neither here nor there. It's really just them as human beings like you really are just off especially at I think. Many many many leftists are far more ethical. Have far integrity care more about people than they do? earnest and are kinder and people. I would enjoy having conversation with like they would run the tape even if they are an essential status. Yeah no I agree and I think that a lot of those left wing People the good lefties on talking about. Yeah there's a lot of an Anna Lot of times they really are They're lefties for the right reasons even if they're wrong they're there for the right reasons it is truly because they care about the little guy and they don't want to say an entrance being. They're like yeah. I don't care about your right to not be taxed as much as I care about this kids right to not starve to death and it even if we think that's flawed and that that kid would be better off and this is a more ethical system. I'd rather take that kid than fucking you know. Like one of these like warhawks any day. That's interesting what you talked about. This is one of the things that I changed on a lot Some of my fans tease me about this. 'cause I always say this but When around two thousand sixteen I really started talking a lot. More about the culture and not just Typically talking about politics and I just kind of realized that that number one this is what people care about. They care about this a lot more than they care about the the things that I really cared about. And that you know you'll see like if there's one of these videos of they'll be one of these videos of some. Social Justice Warrior on a college campus Saying like all the white people here need to apologize for their privilege. And you look under the video. And it's like twenty million views or then. There's some video of Richard Spencer being like I care about white people in white people have a right to exist and it's like twenty million views and then it's like someone talking about the Fed. It's like you know. Twelve thousand views or something underneath. And you're like Oh yeah. Turns out we can sit here and say oh. This is just a distraction. This doesn't matter but you know what people really care about this issue and are really engaged in this distraction even if it is one but then you also realize if you really believe in liberty will then you need to have some type of culture that can sustain it and the point you were making before I mean even if we had a red button we can push that abolished the state tomorrow while if you still have the New York Times and NBC News and CBS News. And you know all of these different well. There would just be a state by the end of the year because the first thing they would say as well. Oh my God. We don't have a state. We need recreate estate. And everyone would beg for it. Everyone and you would just have so. It's like there would be no you know like first off. We don't have that red button. It's going to be really hard to abolish this thing. But even if we did if you don't tackle the cultural issues you're just GonNa be right back here. Absolutely I mean I think that is. It's also fun because that you can talk about things that other people rabbit holes which I like to do and bring things the public consciousness people who are maybe Politics History. I think on the right side of the political spectrum. There is a Explain why the second huge dearth of knowledge about America's cultural history. Ed Part of that has been due to the fact that the universities who invented these kind of departments in the late sixties response to the new left things like African American Studies. Women's studies studies are overwhelmingly. Hard left ideal. Professors promulgating their vision right. So people on the writing are just like okay. That's a thing for them. But then when you do the homework like I've been doing and you're like the one a bit out of the Rally Holds Harlem Renaissance when you have like the city N. double ACP w meaning LAX. And then you have the New York. Harlow artists were writing books. That getting drunk getting late getting fights. This is Republican versus Democrat. This is a democrat. Democrat is cultural battle and to say that this isn't of interest to you because you're not a black person is weird young because just cultural conflicts spread out to in every direction and it's fun to watch people fight. Rightey as but we're told well you know all BA. Everyone on the right is the same at Democrats of the same. And it's like this is for Democrats in. This isn't a political issue..

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"michael malice" Discussed on Part of the Problem

Part of the Problem

04:48 min | 7 months ago

"michael malice" Discussed on Part of the Problem

"TO RIDGE DOT COM SLASH P. Otp CHECK IT OUT THAT. Got Some great stuff highly. Recommend the Ridge Wallet All right. Let's get back into the show. I don't 'cause I've heard so many of them and some people an am. I really smart people. Join Petersen's a good example of this and Milton Friedman's and other really really smart people and they'll they'll tear apart the problem with equality of outcome and they'll say well but how are you going to achieve this equality of outcome because given any degree of freedom we're going to not have inequality about come so you're going to need this. Totalitarianism this authoritarianism. At in order to force this equality of of outcome and that's why. I'm just for equality of opportunity but they never ask the same question about equality of opportunity. Well how the hell would you enforce equality of opportunity? Where do you see this around you? Organically in the real world p. Of course people. Some people's parents are just better to him. Some people are born with more money. Some people are you go for job interview that person interviewing you have certain prejudices in his mind that he's not even printed to. I didn't mean risk I'd be like look like somebody went to high school with and it makes us distrust you on fairly or maybe you're tall always going to like you or your pretty or you're on the. There's just one big arguments against intricate. When they argue for having common law I go you know damn well that under your system. The rich people are always going to have better lawyers. There's no way around this. So if you're arguing for equality under the law you cannot accommodate it even theoretically yes and we may have talked about this before but this is one of the things that I've argued with objective as to abandon the port that they'll say objective law is what we need with this idea of. Jekyll which I always found to be such a bizarre idea yet. What rant talks about at one point? I'm sure someone confided. She says she wants rand. Who wrote a book collection of essays called Philosophy? Who NEEDS IT? Who said constantly that every person? He's philosophy that we need to live consciously that without having a world you to guide your actions. You can't live a fully moral life and you can't fully healthy and happy life right. Which she's talking about. She says when you have judges who are doing their jobs. I want to have no ideology at all. They should basically be robots. I think she can use the word robot. And it's like these. I get what you're saying that you should look at the evidence of gently without your prejudices was. That doesn't talk. You need to analyze the data using your mind. Which was she talked with Greatest is anyone who spoke more about the human mind Rando and it's like Oh but when it comes to the most important thing the law basically at the turn off your brain and be a robot. It's not possible. Yes there will always be the human element in any type of enforcement of any rules and of course everybody. Who's if if you've ever dealt with a cop before in your life you know this. I mean it's like that the truth is that guy could be having a bad day and then you're fucked and it doesn't really matter what's written down some piece of paper. I used to have a bit in my in. My story was on Libertas. I did a bit about this But like the idea that people always like. Have you ever seen one of those youtube videos? And we've all seen the videos of like when people are like they really know the law and confront a cop and they're like well. Actually you can't do that because the statute see seven. Four one says that Bob and this guy ends up on the ground and there's always something amazing about that moment where people have this like. It's this collision of idea and reality and the idea is like I know my rights and the reality is man with a gun with a walkie talkie with lots of other men with guns who will come. It's like a written on a piece of paper and I believe in it verse gang. He's GonNa win. It's really funny 'cause. They're often like very skeptical of the Constitution and so on and so forth but there is no one who believe this more in the magic powers. Constitutional these types because they sincerely believe like Minarik thing okay. A bunch of brilliant man two hundred in whatever forty years ago sat down at a room in Philly wrote down some things parchment and most wonderful governed ever made payments right. Who so spell other than their clothes wizards and you look at them. You're like come on. How did that work out in real life right these types taking the further they seriously think copies coming at you for reason or not used to say hocus.

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"michael malice" Discussed on Part of the Problem

Part of the Problem

13:56 min | 7 months ago

"michael malice" Discussed on Part of the Problem

"And I've talked about this with Tom. Woods where people like. Oh they always think that they're the first ones to this by the way. This is amazing time they go. I thought of this theory that right-wing means less government and left wing means more government. Therefore you know Hitler and Stoller basically the same personally as some of his Jewish was born the Soviet Union to be told. Well there's no real difference in hitler-stalin is kind of funny to here but besides that it's then you ask them. What do you think about the original? Advocates Emma Goldman? You know people like that. They're leg. Who or then you go. Okay what do you think about the original right left wing? Which is right with their stop. Crecy are you saying the aristocracy were for less government. It's different in Europe. Okay why we have terms that work in every context right terms that work just in the way that you like. Which gives you the result that you want right so no I agree with you now. It may be forgetting right left. There is something to me that I think is useful about looking at a spectrum of people and how much state authority want and in in that sense there is something and they're certainly can be comparisons made by Stalin Hitler right. I mean obviously in the twentieth century. They really if you're looking at the two most authoritarian dictators the numbers of dead all of this stuff and the and the totalitarian impulses of both of them. They're they're really. You know figures that have a lot in common but I agree with you in terms of of left and right. That doesn't exactly it's not exactly useful and obviously there are differences. That are important. So what would to me? I think and this is just very loose but wouldn't left. Seems in general? The the left wing seems to always revolve in some ways around egalitarianism. Right whether whether an irony yes Khloe and the right wing is more concerned with hierarchy and Traditional to traditionalism in some sense of not not tearing down The the systems that have existed for a long time whereas the left is very happy to tear down systems that have existed for a long time if they're Hierarchical those are legitimate axes axes okay but even even in that it would those definitions. It seems very hard for me to place us on either the left or the right like that's that seems to bring me back to the Walter Block third of your priorities equality as opposed to analyzing power. Well hold on. I'm sorry is my is. My concern is equality. Everybody Quality Idaho. I mean in a very loose sense certainly not in the in the sense of like a Socialist I wouldn't call myself any gala -Tarian but there is something to be said for believing that all human beings have the same right to life liberty property things like vets. Now we- don't believe that you don't believe that all human beings have self ownership. I don't believe all human have the same no okay but in the sense that Everybody has the right to life. Sure but it's not the same. It's not identical. Okay Fair enough but there is still let me ask you this trump. Do you think it's more of a tragedy tragic. Wow English second language. Do you think it's more of a tragedy with person? A? Is Over Person Day sometimes absolutely one hundred percent so this idea that it's equal at that it's always no. It's not so so so grounded and actually I you know. I'm not a big Ben Shapiro Fan but I don't know if you saw he was getting beat up He said recently the thing about like younger people's lives being more valuable than older people which I thought it was so insane that anyone would not agree with that statement. What's amazing is with people. Sometimes it's hard for me to figure out of people are playing dumb or they're such emotional thinkers literally candidates and things that are not even dispute for example. The question you'll have is. How can you put a price on a human life right? And it's a rhetorical question and is fair to say people replaceable. If someone dies you can't bring them back now at that is that is a tragedy and it's a unique tragedy. That's true but every single day would someone gets killed. There's a wrongful death lawsuit at that. Jury has put on a price with unite. My friend Bagman for the United States government with the. Us kills kids overseas. They go to these families. They give them cash to pay off that. The kids or the sibling was killed. The boys are paid off a lot higher than the girls. Male lives are worth more in the Middle East. So how could you do it you have to do day? It's the same thing when they say well. Teachers should teach. Don't get paid enough great. I bring this up constantly. How much should they be paid? And how were you determining that number? You can't literally right. The word more monoplane a paycheck. What is the number forever? It's the same thing it's like. Yeah everyone has a right but I don't think that right is Equal then it becomes. Well you're Hitler who are you to decide well? Emperor has to make a decision like I decided. Who's time I WANNA spend time talking to decide if someone is like a real asshole? I don't need like they're mean someone like basically a Carol basket right like they killed the husband With his property or allegedly allegedly if we do for real and it's like oh she got her property seized by domain. I I'M NOT GONNA be a okay short so I agree with all of that and and just to the bench appear appoint the thing that I it even for people who think emotionally the thing that I just couldn't get past and I I think everything you just said is is right and it's not that you can like if in a wrongful death it's not that you can actually make that person whole but you can come closer than you are now so giving somebody money for somebody who was killed. It's not going to bring that person back but it's better than killing that person and not giving them money so we still accept that. This is a better solution than not. But to the Ben Shapiro thing even for people think emotionally I just think like can you imagine if like you know. There's like a grandmother and a four year olds and you can only save one of them and someone went and saved the grandmother. Would you not be looking at that person? Like what fuck is wrong just on an emotional level? Don't worry I disagree. I really an interesting because historically it would easily be the grandmother because the case for expendable right now so if someone grandma that you've had a relationship with right as opposed to like a foyer I needed by get tricky when they get older this. This is a very disturbing compensation have. I don't think it's at all obvious that you save grandma's GonNa say to save the kid but I don't think it's that obvious person source degrade value. This is like the the Patriot. Mike Matriarch of the family. Yes but so much of her value has already been instilled in all of that stuff. She's already lived life. And this is the future generation. See I think that a and and you know. I think that most parents would agree. That is your strongest. Your strongest instinct is to protect your kids life whether the at the expense of someone else's at the expense of your own and I think there is kind of like a Darwinian logic of that where it's like you you WanNa keep the next generation going but either way to the point we started at. Were agreeing that one person being killed is can be worse than another person being killed in that. I'm not saying life but I'm not saying that life is is equal. What I am saying though is that there is some spirit of equality in saying that everyone has the right to not be killed now. We're not going complete accurate You know Egalitarian every life is the same value or something like that but I still think there is something especially if you were to say To the point you made before if you were arguing against the original right-wingers right which were the defenders of monarchy aristocracy things like that. Who would be saying some people get all of these rights and other people get basically no rights? It would be kind of at least at the time in a gala. -Tarian impulse to say. I think everybody has the right to live. I think everybody has self ownership and that stuff now. Regardless of that the idea of the right wingers loosely. Define them before saying that they Know therefore tradition and hierarchy. And they don't WanNa tear down structures of the past. How exactly do a couple of anarchists like me and you who want to abolish the most foundational hierarchy that's existed and Anna a tradition that's existed for pretty much all of civilization? How do we fit into a right? Winger definite yeah. That's very that's very very true. Yeah it's that's a great point. I the reason I don't like the constantly quality in in the sense of rights is. Let's look at the idea of something that's not in dispute is we all have to is right so in a certain sense he behaved when it comes to having these were all equal but I think using the equal there is opening doors and I don't think it's much Sahfiqul. Use Yeah okay so I I do. Tend to agree with you in that sense. And this is something also of course. That's also a pointed out to left-wingers Quite a bit when people are arguing against them and I think it's very effective but that you'll realize if they don't even really believe in equality in that sense either because it's the idea of even floating out it will say equality of outcomes. I mean it's just it's absurd. It's it can't even exist on paper. There's no way you can have but then there will be the kind of Jordan Peterson of an. Even people. Like Thomas Soul and Milton. Friedman used to say this to which drives me. Crazy is when they'll say were not for equality of outcome but we're for equality of opportunity and I've always hated that because I find that to be equally just fantasy land like made up like how would you enforce equality of opportunity. That's going to be just as horrible as enforcing equality of outcome. I am glad you brought that up. I have a book signed by Richard. Richard T. Eli Richard T. Eli was woodrow. Wilson's teacher he was one of the founders of the American Economic Association Something similar to that and this was the equivalence of the London School of Economics in the states and their principal was to get together. Basically if you as a public conspiracy we're all gonna get together and spread. The ideas of the new economics and the new economics was of course. Have the government managed the economy and key Was a one of the founding fathers of progressivism. He was not a corporatists in the sense of he wants. Bugaboo Salida government whatever. He had a place for private enterprise. But if you read his autobiography the ground under our feet the last chapter is called. I believe in equality of opportunity. That's where fucking started and have that on their flag and they wave at like a pride flag every day. They don't even realize very comes from and their suckling when I found out book a duly all the original research and it just popped open to that like that was after I came up my conservatives in progressive quote and I saw that in those words Holy Shit so one thesis. I had was totally wrong that Republican president Republican governor a congress. We're GONNA scale by government Disproven other thesis. Oh there it is. It's not proof but it shows a lot of evidence. And that's that's a really great sign of being like intellectually honest thinker is that you can have a theory but then when the evidence contradicts the theory or even disproves the theory in this example. You abandoned the theory. It's like okay. Could buy theory. That was nice. It's a little bit painful to abandon the theor theory. You gotta go shit. I Argued With all these people and said this shit. Now I gotta be like I was wrong about all of that but if you WanNa be right then you have to do that and then when you have a theory that is really confirmed. That is really conformation of all right. Let's take a quick second. I WanNa thank our sponsor for today's show which is Ridge the makers of the Ridge Wallet I I've I've switched over to the ridge. Wallet Bunch of my friends here in pretty much. Everyone gas digital has done it. Because it's just a better wallet if you're still using your grandfather's wallet. That's throwing your spine out of alignment because it feels like a brick and you've got old you know gift cards with no money left on him in receipts from the year two thousand and three in your wallet..

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"michael malice" Discussed on Part of the Problem

Part of the Problem

09:29 min | 7 months ago

"michael malice" Discussed on Part of the Problem

"All right let's get back into the show so even when you were working at the Cato Institute you still were basically you know on a Republican. You weren't yet a committed Republican liberty personally friendly surveys like I thought okay. This is going to be a mechanism a means to an end like it is possible or likely. I would say likely that a Republican President Congress is going to do a good job of pulling back The growth of government look. They just kill socialized healthcare. They just respond to shut the government. This is going to happen. These people believe that they impeached Clinton. You know they're holding therefore they're not fucking joking around and yeah they were. They were totally joke. Around was a total farce. Is One of the really sad things about the. The story of America is really. You know what we've done especially in in me in your lifetime is just what's happened in the twenty first century to this country. I mean we really just blew the twenty first century. Forget being anarchists and all the moral problems we can have with America going back. I'm not even talking about morality as much as I am. Almost just from a business perspective like the bottom line like we went into the year two thousand with just you know being the most successful country that's ever existed and what we've done in the first twenty years of of the twenty first century is really been to like jeopardize everything it's just been you know. I mean even this is why we're living in this world of like Sanders and trump. You know these like populist movements on the left and the right because even like average person can just look around and go wait a minute so like we can't win are wars. We can't balance our budgets. We can't protect our borders. We can't have a cohesive culture. We can't like the very basic things that you expect countries to be able to do where failing at all of them and it's and I really. I put like the majority of that. Blame on the moment that you're talking about in the year two thousand when the Republicans take the Presidency the House and the Senate and this is like look. This is how we're starting off the year two thousand with complete Republican control and they just we had the most disastrous eight years. The last two were not all Republican control. They had it up to two thousand six. But those six years. If you want to just say of Republican control Just I mean on every level and absolute disaster. So it's interesting that that was the moment that you kind of your Belief that that things might change if Republicans everything. It was really such a such a terrible time for the country. Oh yeah it was unambiguous that the data lady the first thing they do is Medicaid. Part d whatever it was like what? What are you talking about you people? I remember very vividly ninety six. When Bob Dole was running against Bill Clinton and Clinton says Bob Dole was going. Bill Clinton was the government to increase it. Eighteen percent increase a twelve percent. Whatever the number was and I'm just like are you fucking kidding? Me Like this is a it was just and while he's doing that they're saying that he wants all people starving in the street early at that the nation of just like this is not for me. Yeah well there's something you know. It's funny that you mentioned the Medicare Part D prescription drug program thing because that's that's an important distinction because even if you were to grant the Republicans which I don't at all but even if you were to grant them though like nine eleven war in Iraq had to happen all the military budget build up and all of that. The it's still that still doesn't explain the outrageous growth in domestic spending. The no child left behind in the Medicare expansions in the every single budget of every domestic program. Going up So yeah it was it that really was I. I think I opening to a lot of People a lot of right wing people in America and part of the reason why I mean. Obviously it's it's years later but part of the reason why in two thousand sixteen a guy like Donald trump is able to become president So what so happens to you after this period so now you're kind of disillusioned about the Republican Party. You've been exposed to a lot of libertarian Literature and been around a lot of libertarian people. So what was your next step in your intellectual journey. It was it. I just full blown. Enter at that point I mean it. There's Hannah in there. Yeah I mean I was a hardcore libertarian. Already I would say but I mean at that point especially seeing the war state is just like I I by twenty sixteen when when when he came on. My blogger fee already identified as anarchists But I think became a significant bit earlier. Also they're pulling the supreme court like who Bush's putting up. Its kidding me. And what's his name? His Attorney General I forget the guy's name. He was a former spence. It was space anyway. They had Greek statues in the Capitol building. Any cover them up because they were naked. Like these classical statues and I'm just like you. People are just authentic just pathetic you have no problem killing incarcerating your own citizens but like like a ancient statue of beauty of the human body. This is a problem for you. You were not at all what I'm about you've always I remember I think you you're the one who said your definition of a right-wing is was the that question about people being better than others right. It's IT'S A litmus test. Yeah so so. Just tell people what that is if they're not familiar. Sure I think we're in a bit of a delay but that's okay The Litmus test says it's an easy way to tell if someone is Right wing or left wing if you end already cringing at the comments. But that's okay ask. What do you think some people are better than others and someone who is right wing? We'll say yes and someone who's left wing will give a speech and it has happened worked for me successfully one hundred percent of the time if he doesn't need to hear so would you. Do you consider since me and you would both answer. Yes without without a speech to that to that question. Do you consider us to be right. Wingers I think by most definitions. Yeah although I would consider myself to be very left wing. But there's several different ways to define the terms so I always I kind of like I mean I understand. Different people have different definitions right leg. You're saying there's different ways to understand these terms and certainly there's a lot of people There's a lot of people who consider me a right winger. Although the hard right-wingers would consider me a left or a liberal or something like that But I always personally. I kind of like Walter blocks just third leg on the stool I to me. I really do think that that libertarian. Anarchists are. It's just almost like you. Have this right wing left wing thing and we're our own different thing so I was doing on and I think that's cheating. Yeah I UNDERSTAND. I understand that you you a lot of people do want that but even someone like you to to describe you as right wing to me just seems off particularly as you mentioned with so much so much of your cultural views on things. Just it doesn't seem accurate like it seems like it's not cheating it is actually fair to you neither left nor right wing your own branch because for very obvious reasons. Both of these terms have achieved a boatload connotations in public discourse and as mechanisms to dismiss preemptively. What a person is say. So and I talked about this in my book. Like if you WanNa Talk About Mussolini and Fascism. Right which he achieved a decade before Hitler was in power. You can't because as soon as the safe fascism Like right away. There's all these kind of Gatien's not inaccurately because this is where it goes. You really make sure not down that slippery slope but again when you say right wing it has. And that's that's that's the other thing becomes funny that you have these boomer cons like Hitler becomes potato like it. They'll think I'm right. Wing Hitler's bad. There for Hitler's right right and then they'll have the rationalization as to why the left you'll be like you're crazy. I'm left Ray. Left brings good. Hit was obviously right wing Blah Blah Blah and people wanted to find these terms as whichever one I am. It's all the good stuff and they are. It's all the bad stuff and it's like it would be really nice if we kind of have the teams separate so easy but right wing and left wing have both many positive connotations and many negative connotations in many definitions and it always amazes me..

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"michael malice" Discussed on Part of the Problem

Part of the Problem

11:13 min | 7 months ago

"michael malice" Discussed on Part of the Problem

"They played it backwards. They put it through such as like an Internet thing. But this is in the nineties going through this clip like every angle to try to figure out what the Fuck Ted Kennedy saying. Amazingly a look Clinton Clinton Stacy just looks like you say so. He also gave me that chance to be kind of Politically abrasive an aggressive and I was in a bookstore in the upper east side of Manhattan and I was looking at the Iran books right and the one that because the commerce very catching these Nicholas Gaetano Coverage. There are deco covers and I was looking at the back. Cover valid shrug and it said the stories about the man who said he would stop the. Who's the man who promise that he would stop the motor of the world and he did right and I thought this was like ghostbusters to because he ghostbusters to there's this engine underneath New York City and like they like basically get stopped so I thought it was getting some kind of Scifi novel two thousand pages and I'm looking at the about this and the guy sitting there at Barnes and noble goes. Don't don't read that read act but was to like anthem. You like anthem and I gotTa tell you I despise unsolicited advice and when strangers start shutting me up. I'm usually pretty nasty. But Oh this band at a debt of gratitude so I read anthem and you know. I thought I was a Republican quite a bit of time and I remember. I had a very sick flu freshman year in college and Bucknell University and I was reading the fountainhead. And the copy still at the Bucknell library so you can be standing copy. I read and I read the rape scene right and I I'm delirious. I was fevered and I read it and I couldn't understand what I was reading and I look at the back cover and on this is written in nineteen forty three by the woman like unclearly misunderstanding of rating. Like I like this can't be but a reading and it was and that book like for many people. There was a book by drug to she call. It usually starts with our usually against Iran like that and then in the bucknell basement somebody had left behind a pamphlet for lasi books which Andrew Rich ran for years. And when you when you go through those books like so many doors open toward you and then I was a cato in turn my junior year. I despise Bucknell and pretty much everything about it but they had a program where you can spend one semester as A. Indy sees it as an intern in your classes. I did that the health campus inserted Kato. And you know that opened up a whole other you know big world for me and in fact the reason I I came upon Cato. There was a article in New York magazine. I believe that talked with the House that how Gorka built right and I was wondering Kato I forgot why was in DC. But I don away from my group. And I'm wandering around. And then he just came on me like this vision and the building is pretty damn cool so that was kind of a those are the big Thirty points but there's that joke which I repeat my book which I'm sure you would ever else knows which is what's the difference between a minner kissed abacus. Six months I mean it is such a not tenable position in my view to just stick like all right. You don't like you have this dial. Are we going to stick it right at one? Hold it in perpetuity. Somehow even though everyone wants to kind of move the dial as opposed to like. Maybe you could just do this parallel. It's it's really funny. I look back at my men are days sometimes with almost like a kind of. It's like a surreal. Feeling that that was you because it was I had already had all of the like logical tools to make me an anarchist. But I- clone to this idea of well no I there's still has to be some government even when already been exposed to anarchist thinkers and I really think as I look back on it that I think I would. I would have these reasons of why I I was a minner kissed. And they're really embarrassing if I were to say them now but it was things like well. We need to at least guarantee for the poorest amongst us some you know whatever You know rights protection or you have to guarantee that there's Kopchev guarantee a lawyer you can't just say like. Oh if you can't afford when you don't get police or lawyers or something you know something like this but I don't know if America them well I suppose but the the problem with the argument is that what it wants you as most men are could should know that nothing Fox poor people over more than those exact institutions that I was defending. That's ultimately that was really the lightbulb literally my moment of when I became an anarchist was I and I had already read a lot of Rothbart and I was a hardcore libertarian. Already but I was. I was in my old apartment in Brooklyn is one night. It was like Guide Three in the morning. I'd come home from doing comedy shows and I was smoking weed watching youtube videos. I got down a youtube. This is probably around like two thousand dollars. They like two thousand eleven or something like that so I was. You know this. Youtube was like early in its day is still kind of and like it was but I was watching like reading stuff online and I saw one video like the million video I had seen of cops just fucking over poor people. I think it might have even been a clip from the show. Cops I forget what it was and there was something about where I just had this moment where I was like wait. This is why I wanNA keep the state like. This is the thing that I'm hanging onto so that there's police for poor people and I was like really like this is the worst thing that's ever happened to poor. People probably could just come up with something better and if I already accept that there's people like me who give a shit about this and the economy is going to be ten million times better and all these other things will be better. And why don't we just figure out a voluntary solution for it? Just kind of dawned on me but anyway I wanted to ask you more so in this period you just thought of yourself as a Republican Like in high school and stuff like that. What would your would you argue with other people about this or like? What would your what what were some of the big issues that made you a Republican. Was it just anti-democrat issues? Or like what was your attitude. At that time I I mean I thought those the only two things on the table I remember when The program suck in DC. The professor's name was by the way Mark Roselle. He still teaches he. Still you know a fleet worthless piece of shit. The first speaker we had every day. We have different speakers from all over the political spectrum. He did jump into it. Was someone from the Libertarian Party. I had a lot of contempt for the Libertarian party because I had felt and again this is not something I would ever say again today but it's not uncommon perspectives those Republican votes. You're stealing Republican votes. And I asked the Libertarian. Geigo what why is the point of running as a libertarian? But YOU'RE NOT GONNA goes no no if you WANNA get elected. I would advise you to run as a Republican like okay. That makes a lot of sense and I had been of the belief that this is a great example. I think Bertrand Russell who said because he got called out for changing his perspective. He says the effective yeah. When I get new information I changed my mind. What do you do and I had been of the belief and I said this. I said we've never had a republican president and Republican Congress at. I said we can talk when that happens. And it doesn't like you guys are also sceptical. Just watch because this is after Gingrich Gingrich Steals Congress. It was a The reason I like ninety four and people young to remember this is it was a given that we're going to have socialized healthcare Given Clinton was pushing it all year all the media were saying we're just working out the details. It's ridiculous for not you would. I not only this has happened to happen. It's going to happen. We have the numbers. Sit Down and shut up. You know Blah Blah Blah Blah. It was just a done deal and Hillary's charge my God. She's so amazing. It's so amazing. Swimming with no health care. Experience is going to single handedly save healthcare industry. We're so blessed that we elected this. We're told every single day with a straight face and the shocking really idea. Socialized medicine like Oh my God. Whoever thought of such a thing it's unprecedent my God the talent and even going into that night election night It was not a given all that the house was employed. It was not supposed to be employees and I was sitting in the basement of Bucknell. Watching and some douchebag is remember one that would look like blonde like. They tried to change the channel. But like I'm like I'm watching this. And he came back with a bunch of people like it was gonNA numbers to change. The channel will decant. It's election night. It's on every channel and the numbers kept coming in. It was so shocking and it was like Oh my God but it was also great because this is very similar. Twenty sixteen the Butter Ch Was enormous because I remember. There was a little bit of Internet even then and so much commentary was well. I'll wish the Republicans luck they deserve it. But you'll see that governing in easy and all this other like saw like this is Michael Like logging entitled. Just feeling devastated for things that don't really affect them and then they shut down the government. That was awesome and the the awesome part was that night knowing. What the Fuck is Clinton GonNa say? They just knocked that coffee smile off his face and he did a great job he went on TV the next day and it goes by. I WanNA talk to people. I want to say. Message received and that mother fucker with very quickly for being a government Democrat to being Romney. Republican couldn't wait to throw the gays into the bus up. I guess I'll balance the budget like all Cave and everything because you want to have a conscience. Then in two thousand Bush gets elected right. I was Steve Forbes Guy and the nightmare that this was even if you don't talk about the war even if you don't talk about nine eleven. There was no premise that the budgets get any balanced even though I just under Clinton just a couple of years ago. There was no claim that we're going to cut the budget or cut the budget. It was a all a total lie. And I'm like Holy Shit everything all those people said the Cato to was true and.

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"michael malice" Discussed on Part of the Problem

Part of the Problem

06:33 min | 7 months ago

"michael malice" Discussed on Part of the Problem

"America's next enemy is look at who were funding right now. Problems are open government way to work. Hey what's up? Everybody let this be your part of the problem for the next hour or so. This madness is continuing I. Of course I'm joined by my great friend. The the wonderful hilarious and thought provoking Michael Malice. How are you sir? I'm great very good. You got some new headphones for this one. These are might noise canceling headphones. That my buddy told me about a wear them to the gym. Remember the gym and notice anyone around you at. I thought with the like retentive a DJ. Oh yes very good. There we go. Dj's another class of workers who haven't been able to do much recently. It's IT'S WEARY. Keep thinking of like New People or you're like. Oh yeah they're completely screwed over. It's like the ones you think of like a car kind of obvious. Yeah yeah any anyone who counts on anything where people get together which is a whole lot of people anyway so for this episode. I thought we would talk about your favorite subject. Which is you and I thought I know I was thinking about it and I was like you know. What should we do next time? And then I was like you know. There's some things like that I don't know about you. I think would be interesting to ask you about On on the show and we can all Learn about them together. Because I've so I am pretty sure the first time we met. I think was at your debate with Tom Water. Yes so you debated Tom on the legacy of Hamilton something I forget exactly what the resolution was Alexander. Hamilton is a hero for the cause of Liberty Right. Okay and this was the like the precursor to the Soho Forum. Gene obscene was running debate series. But it was before he created the Soho form and they had this debate. It was like at a library. It was really cool event. They sold it out and it was like packed is really great debate. Very interesting and thought provoking is it. Could we got two? E mails from the venue complaining. That there were too many people at a closed down the entire series. There was like one or two after US John. Lott and it was done. Oh yeah that's always a that's weird complaint. When the venue complains that you sold too many tickets rear cross like well. That's kind of our goal is to sell as many tickets as possible so they can't be like it's like if you were a band and afterwards they're like you rocked too hard like well. I mean this is what we're trying to do here. So maybe we need a new venue. Because this is this is really the whole point But so we've known each other and this was how. How long ago was this? When did this happen? That twenty six tortoise it had trump tweets. It must have been twenty fifteen. I think the background making fun of Tom. Oh that's right. Yeah yeah that was great tweets from trump. That you Doctored up or at least I think you doctored up perhaps you actually trump to tweet them out but a we've known each other for about five years and we've been friends And but there are some things that I don't know about you that I was curious about and so I was curious. What like when did you become interested in like the philosophy politics and you're not super political but the stuff that you're kind of known for now like were you into the stuff as a kid did it. Did you not care and figure it out later in life for like? When was your first interest in philosophy? Well my first interested in politics was there is a show on Tv in the eighties called backs of life and Michael. J. Fox played Alex Keaton and he was the only person on TV. Who looked like me who I could relate to any extra really funny. 'cause WHOOPI GOLDBERG. Got Her start in similar way. She was watching. I was Diane. Carol has called Julia and the wilby turned to her mom and said look there's a black lady on TV and she's not a made and this was kind of this mon for her and it. Was that way for me with Alex Keaton. A because he was small he was smarter than everybody. She was a bitter wise ass and I couldn't watch the show. I never could watch it because they made a cloud at him and I resent it. It really bothered me so because he was those the show. The whole premise of the show is his parents were hippies but their son Alex. Keaton was basically as Reagan Republican. Who was driving the parents crazy? So as a result of this I thought it was a Republican. Had literally no idea what that meant literally none is. This is middle school right right but then I found that if you say your Republican to like your teachers in New York City Brooklyn This bother step and that is something. I enjoyed from a very early age. A contempt for authority Hatred these Mediocre Mediocre People. Expect you to seek their approval. A things like this so when I got to High School. A friend of mine. Who later was my roommate. He gave me a copy of rush. Limbaugh spoke the way things on a limbaugh limbaugh now. Very much symbolizes kind of boomer con. Ben Shapiro kind of situation but will people don't appreciate this is what Ninety-one Ninety-two limbaugh was. Probably the first one he was Jon Stewart for Republicans. He was the first one to use humor and sarcasm and condescension aggression toward the other team and no one really it to that level before and he did really really well. I remember vividly. There was a clip. He made of this is years later. Jenner late night show and had Ted Kennedy Introducing Bill Clinton and he goes and I wanted to Clinton and Clinton slander But he just say they slowed.

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"michael malice" Discussed on Part of the Problem

Part of the Problem

12:34 min | 7 months ago

"michael malice" Discussed on Part of the Problem

"Hear but there are protesters outside right now honking their horns and raising signs. We did speak to a few of them before we came in and these are regular people who are not getting a paycheck. Some of them are not getting their unemployment check. And they're saying that they don't have time to wait for all of this testing and they need to get back to work in order to feed their families. Their savings is running out. They don't have another week. They're not getting answers. So their point is the cure. Can't be worse than the illness itself. What is your response to them. Is that what is worse Than Death? And then he commits suicide because they can't pay their ability. Illnesses may be my death. As opposed to your death. You said they said the cure is worse than the illness. Illness is death. How can the cure be worse than the illness? If illness is potential death life the what if the economy failing worse than is equal measure of the penal people stuck at home. Now it doesn't it doesn't he. Would that economic hardship death emotional stress from being locked in a house very bad not death domestic violence on the increase very bad? Not Death and death of someone else. See that's what we have to factor into this equation. Yeah your life do whatever you want but you are now responsible for my life. You have a responsibility to me all right so let's pause it right there because I already found this just thought. It was infuriating and feeling of a lot of things so the exact opposite reaction. No okay go ahead. Okay first of all. I think it's like the the most over-simplified nonsense to sit here again. It's what what I was saying before. It's impossible for these people to have a cost benefit analysis. It's no the illness is death and nothing can be worse than death because illness is death. And it's like well I mean we don't actually know exactly what the mortality rate of this virus that Stanford study that I was talking about the other day. They put it at around point one percent. Now maybe they're off may maybe that's not what it is and it's actually higher than that but it's not as simple as the illness is death. Some people will die from that but the point that this reporter was making what she starts with is that what if some people die from the economy being shut down. Yeah what if tens of millions of people going to work with that is death and I think what he said even though he didn't mean it to be as literal what he said when he says well. This could be my death this. What about me and I think that there really is some truth to the fact that this the virus is something that can affect the elite? It's not something that's contained to the working class and the poor and if you're talking about their suffering verse risking something that could come take out the ruling class. Well then that's something that we can't risk now. I know he didn't mean that to be literal. But it seemed like a Freudian slip to me and no. I'm sorry you say Oh. Yeah we'll you're free to go if you want to but it could be someone else's debt we'll people are not free to go out and go to work if they want to there being shut down by the government and it seems to me that there is no serious consideration of what that means for. You know you can sit there and be like nothing's worse than the illness. Tell that to somebody who's got three kids and just lost their job. You're telling me that you compare that to a situation of grandma dying. It's not so clear. What is the better or worst answer? These are tough tough questions and I just. I found that dismissive and infuriating. So it's interesting. I think this is the first time I love it when because we agree on so much more. See things the same way I We need to take a second something going on with your audio settings and your pitched way down my mic happened again. Okay Lemme Lemme take the mic out and put it back in. Okay Yeah and then you can just get back to your response. I'll come this one. I'm going to pause yet. You sound you sound good. Good now okay. So it's interesting because you and I see things so similarly and You know we can kind of argue over the little details but what we're going to be coming from the same premises in the same conclusion almost inevitably so. I think it's really fun when we are looking at the same data and having different responses. This is how I looked at what I just saw. I think when you are a governor or let's or even just the CEO of a company right. Let's take it on the whole status thing to take that angle out of it. Which on some level is whatever you these people and I'm not saying you know how when someone's like Oh boohoo. You're too rich it's like I am going to give him a little bit of sympathy. They'd have really tough position because they can't win because he knows I don't think governor chrome was a man when De Blasios was saying we're GONNA according to New Yorkers. He shot down with the quickness so he is aware on some level of cost benefit analysis. But I think when you're in that position your brain has to tell yourself you're making the right choice. 'cause when you're second guessing between a mass employment and that's death you don't really have the psychological space to be G. I don't know because everyone around you is saying the joke. Harry Truman. Give me show me. Give me a one handed. Economist will on the one hand. Eighty percent chance that fifty thousand will die on. The other hand is a forty percent. Chance three me work. What's it going to be and it's just like I don't know I'm just a fucking asshole got elected because my dad but the thing is I have to know. I can't quit and I'm in this office because I'm power-hungry whatever now it's not an easy I think I don't think either of us just finished so he's saying that. I think I took that and again I could be totally talking to my ass and if I heard someone else saying this. I could be like a typical Democrat but I think this is something where he had to tell himself. I'm making the tough choices. And she's like. Do you want me to tell those people what he's really saying is I don't know what to tell them. You're fucking right so I got a fucking sit here be certain and like I. This is clearly right choice. Because if I'm saying yeah you know maybe I should be opened up earlier. That's not really helping situation. So what? Yeah Okay I get what you're saying. I think that even when you said to take it out of the status context this is something that happens with power whether that be state our or other power I mean I remember just a stupid example but I remember In the in the late nineties early two thousands when the Knicks signed Alan Houston for like one hundred million dollars so they paid Allan Houston more than Kobe. Bryant was making at the time they signed him like he was the best player in the League and he was a good player but he wasn't anywhere near that level and then they would just keep justifying it. Like why are you guys? Alan Hewson was again. Because if they didn't then they'd be telling you. Oh we made the biggest mistake in the history of this organization. And that's not really an option. So you gotta just keep justifying it so it happens all over the place. The issue is that in the government. You have way more power. So if there's a problem with power there's way more of it and it also does not have the cleansing mechanism that the market has so. If a business makes a really bad decision they go out of business. They're gone the government doesn't go out of business at least not yet. Hopefully one day But the government doesn't go out of business so they make a bad decision. There's just no cleansing because their their customers are forced to pack. So they're not getting you know they're not going anywhere but yeah. I mean I think you're right to some degree what it is that you cannot ignore knowledge. Let alone admit the possibility that you did something that was worse than this virus. Because what position are you in? Then you can't change your mind you your holds everything about. You is derived from the fact that you did the right thing here and if you didn't. Oh my God it's might have been talking about this with you One time when I watched this video of a abortionist in abortion. Doctor who had been an abortion doctor for thirty years and she was arguing that there's absolutely nothing immoral. There's no moral question about getting an abortion. It's like well you better believe that. Yeah right because if you don't you're like Hitler like a worse Hitler you're just exclusively a baby murderer and you actually did it. So we'll let it the way we all know the joker so but you know regardless of that. The the fact is still that you're this person in this position of power and you're going to be telling people you're going to be shutting down disliking date. It's a lot easier for him to say I'm sorry. Lost Her job because of many that. I'm sorry you lost grandma because of me and it's the incentive that he's under that I think he's responding to and I don't think he's responding to them in a totally irrational way. I don't I don't think it's a rational either. I do think it's evil. It is wrong on a moral level to to just shut down questions by saying no death death worse than that. Let me hear it. Let me get your take on this one more thing. I think being more pedantic in the sense of like she's saying like they're saying this could be worse than the disease well to actually the disease means you die so by definition could be worse. I think that's it's people were marginally smart. Tried to smarter than they are to be like. There's a lot of you and I will talk about some anarchists perspective and people be like well if you look at the data. Obviously it's like. It's never obvious. Data's not obvious. That's just something. You're proceeding to be obvious. I think he's trying to make it. This is obviously death or not death and given those two choices and it's like yeah it would be a lot easier for everyone if this was a binary choice right. You know. It's not it's satistics in horror in the direction that that I that I do agree with it is difficult and I think people on either side of the issue who are making it seem simple are just fooling themselves and making themselves feel better about what side of the issue there on but they are not the ones who are forcing people out of work and this motherfucker is now. I do I by the way. I suspected that it was possible that you were going to have a different perspective on this. And that's why I thought it would be interesting to play together so I wanNA play the end of the video. See what your perspective on this at? So let's play that you have a responsibility to me right. We started here saying it's not about me. It's about we get your head about around the week concept so it's not all about you. It's about me too. It's about we. Also I get the economic hardship. Everybody GETS IT. Everybody feels the federal government is sending out a check for individuals six hundred dollars in additional twelve hundred dollars. We are moving heaven and earth to get the unemployment payments going so we get the economic anxiety. The question is how do you respond to it? And do you respond to it? In a way that jeopardizes public health and possibly CAUSES MORE PEOPLE TO DIE. And think about it. As if it was your family that might get infected right. And that's what we're talking about when you think about it as your family. You have a different perspective. I'll tell you the it's not an abstract argument. What they say he says she says he says she says I know that's how it works. Well the protesters say this governor says this but that to say this governor says this okay think about it as your family might be in the mix because when I see four hundred eighty four New Yorkers dying. I feel that it's like people in my family and nothing comes before the public health risk of somebody else's life and that's where we are but they're.

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"michael malice" Discussed on Part of the Problem

Part of the Problem

08:03 min | 7 months ago

"michael malice" Discussed on Part of the Problem

"All right let's get back on the show. One of the things you mentioned there that I think is is important. Was the dynamic of men feeling comfortable to come out and tell these stories particularly straight men and I do think in general in our society there is. There's no like support for men you know. There's none of these support groups for men. There isn't a culture of like what men go through. I was joking around the other day. with my wife about you know how how many things we've seen about The disproportionate impact on African Americans of cove. It but the thing that nobody will ever say is that it's disproportionately affecting men which is very true and that. Yeah the yeah. That's how now much no one cares. the the death. I check these numbers. This might have been a week ago so they could be updated but there was like seventy one percent of the deaths in Italy. Were were men like just got the disproportionately affecting man. Yeah but nobody seems to like be you know like Oh my God. We need to worry about the male community. Are we need to worry about? You know what's happening here to our men who are being too because there's just that's not the way society thinks and I think very much for not only cultural reasons but for Biological reasons that male disposability has always existed men are inherently from Darwinian perspective more disposable than women are if you have a desert island with fifty men and one woman you're you're you're screwed in terms of surviving for the future. I every single males gonNA fight over that one woman you're GonNa she's GonNa get pregnant in a nine month intervals and quite possibly die. And the baby dies. Men's societies over if you have a fifty women in one man very happy man. You're GONNA be fine. You will repopulate the earth like he can so female life is inherently more valuable genetically than male life is and this is part of the reason why men go off and die at war and people. Don't really worry about it as much as if they're you know these cultural is like. Oh my God we have to protect our women but that is something that you know in. Today's Day and age doesn't isn't really necessary. And I. I remember back during the height of the metoo movement when I was on se. Show and I would. I tried to bring up a few times in the conversation Prison I was like I mean if we're GonNa talk about rape culture and all this stuff I mean. Let's talk about prison. There's a real problem here. Nobody cared punchline. Yeah it really is a punchline. It's something that you can watch law and order and they'll use to threaten a guy you know like they're grilling them and they'll just be like better. Admit it guys like you don't do too well in prison and it's just like yeah that's the good guy in the show just telling you like. Hey we'll we'll send you a rape dungeon man so you better talk up and that's fine no problem but if it's like pretty. Hollywood girls being being you know Whatever propositioned or or abused perhaps Dentists on it's sexy and interesting and everyone wants to care about it but there really is no. You really can't work up a cultural give a shit over over men being abused and I I gotTa tell you something else like I i. I think this speaks very strongly to Y. You have the rise of people Jordan Peterson. Joe Rogan all these other types and they want to try to you know people in the New York Times. Want to try to reduce them to some kind of all right or right wing figureheads Joe. Rogan's not right wing. They are speaking to a population that has been. You know. Better worse worse. Obviously but for for whatever reason has been put in kind of a secondary position and don't feel that they're being perceived spoken to and one of the things that I have had happened to me in. The last six months is that there has been like an increasing number of individual young men who I've spoken to who have told me and it is really did a number me that I'm the first person that you know. How like our fans think? We'RE FRIENDS WITH THEM. And this is something I've been having an issue with because a lot of times people don't respect boundaries and I'm very introverted. Very kind of whatever in this part of this my upbringing where I boundaries were never respected but some of these young men are telling me that on the first person with thinks like them and for the first time their life they don't feel completely isolated and crazy and for me it's just like Holy Shit that's and but the thing is now I started. I talked to this one person. They're very young and and I'm like Oh my God got me to thinking I remember that my twenty four to twenty seven feeling this absolute cosmic level sense of alienation that. I'm a completely completely mentally isolated and yeah I had friends and hang out with them but in certain ways that made it worse because there was like a fundamental wall between what I could and couldn't communicate with them so to realize that me and you people like Tom. I think but TOM is a lot more hands off and he's also a dad. Not that you're not a w Adad phone he's got he's got five but I mean he's like he's a dad or persona yes yes more than not not new certainly To be that guy for these people is something like okay. I am realizing what a big deal. That is because I didn't have that and it was really like crawling on glass for years. I haven't thought about it for a long time. How difficult it was on a fundamental emotional level and how much it screwed up my quality of life for their long time at a very deep way. So Y- like the fact that you know even if it's just for people who I could be the guy who's like nope it's not you as everybody else because at that age have that perspective so no trust me. You're going to be a successful autistic freak like myself and I did Smith. It's it's it's it's like they can let the let out of breath all right. Let's let's switch gears a little bit Because I wanted to Talk about this Video clip that. Somebody sent me on twitter That really I found just appalling and As you know Michael I have been Over the last few weeks really Becoming more and more convinced that the response to the virus has been worse than the and and I think that's beginning to become clear and clear to people That we're going to look back at this and be like Holy Shit. What the Hell did we just do? You know let's assume it's one hundred percent true that's still going to be a big gamble that it's become clear clear. Yes no no I agree with you. But I'm taking that into account when I when I say those words so I'm talking on the level of the Iraq war it had had before even even like hawks would admit. Yeah this there's no way we can just add happen. I just think that we're going to be looking at. I mean if the you know some of these governors who want to keep the shutdown going another month. If we're GONNA do that we're going to be looking at probably fifty million plus people who have lost their jobs since this is GonNa Shrug. Yes yes exactly. So then how can we are not in the valley was that Mrs Janoris calling my office? Well so anyway this is you know. There's starting to be some pushback against this. There's been protests around the country. And I I've been thinking for a while now that it's really unbelievable. How much Politicians do not seem unaffected by damage the devastation that they're causing and so there was this quote at a or this moment at one of Andrew. Cuomo the the hero governor right now at one of his daily press conferences. The end of this guy sent it to me. I couldn't believe that he actually said this. So I wanted to play this video and we can. Both we can stop in the middle kind of I curious to get your reaction but so let's let's play this this video. You can.

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"michael malice" Discussed on Part of the Problem

Part of the Problem

12:03 min | 7 months ago

"michael malice" Discussed on Part of the Problem

"Bead. You are welcome to the next hour of problems. I am really running out of creative ways to intro these crossover shows but it's the latest installment in the part of the welcome. Of course I'm joined by my dear dear friends Michael Malice who I always enjoy talking to. And all of the listeners seem to have really been enjoying these episodes as much as we have which is great ex- except for the antisemites. So yeah they've been. They've never enjoyed either of our shows but for some reason they keep listening they keep listening. It's really it's unbelievable as Jesus I. It's the the people who are furious that may about Not doing a deep dive on the jae-kyu for years when I did episode with Jean abstain about the Jewish question. And they're like Oh yeah. Of course you're going to get to Jews to talk about the Jewish question. You're like I'm a Jew. What do you want me to do here? I can't be ju talking about it. It's the only way it can happen. I I asked what him straight up One time I was like okay. So with all this jae-kyu stuff. What's the what's your results like? What's your prescription? What rules or laws do you support? Because of his at is like listen. I'm not trying to like kill Jews or anything. I just think that Jews should be should not be allowed to be in finance or Hollywood and should not be allowed to be in the political sphere. And I go to. The political sphere include political commentary. And he goes. Yeah I got so you want me to take seriously ideology. That says I have to lose my job. Why why would I do that that you enjoy really? Would you watch you only know of me because I do this? It's like summertime to comment commenters are like. Oh my God. These ads are so annoying. Let me assure you that if I have to choose the ADS and I actually I wearing. This is true sheath they sent it to me. I like their stuff and the newer I if I had to choose between the ADS in you. This isn't about Sophie's choice. And this is Jewish. Non-jewish there are people who have companies who think our programs were supporting and they're like here. Here's cash talk about our product right and then you have people who take the products for free and instead of like silently consuming. Like I'm just going to be annoying and complain. Which is your right. But again this is not a the customer's always right and all the customer's always right is a very flawed sentiment. Anyway winning the customers right away that I think it's like fifty one percent women so the majority of the time the customers wrong if always like I've seen like a so many times in businesses at US particularly at comedy clubs drunk Audience members sometimes the customers very very wrong. Sometimes they should just be tossed out of the building. Yeah Removal yes. That's right but just communists and people aboard democracy and of course the gays but that's it after the play music in public when you when you interviewed and you asked him about physical removal and you asked him whether he meant literally like physically removed like far away from someone and he said. Yeah that is what he was talking about right so I remember thinking maybe this whole thing has been completely misunderstood. It wasn't misunderstood. It's that we did on a twelve or something. I talked about my book right. We were the ones who started. These hopping memes Shea stuff with the removal. So I know he does that. They have to be physically separated right. But I know he also doesn't mean that they're gonNA grab you by the back all right buddy. He's not that type of person right. Do you ever wonder I've I've gotten this question a lot. This is like advanced. Anarchist Philosophy Stuff but where people will say if you pay the child after you have sex with. This is really what we want to three letter. Chisholm when you're selling child is you're selling above market values that fraud therefore well. Why would you agree right? That is it is a violation of the napper. It is aggression to Like a call to violence. Like if I were to say I want you to go kill so and so that would not be like freedom of speech that would be nice it rights. I mean would you call the declaration of independence and violation the NAP now? Now that we're not recognizing authority and we're going to do something about it that it will. Yeah but to me that gets to the difference between aggression and defense. And they're saying hey where you're not our rulers if you come over here and try to rule me. I'm going to kill you. That's a little bit different than saying. Hey I want this guy's stuff I'm going to go take that from him. You know what I'm saying so it's just an innocent person yeah of course that's a solution and apnea right so then what people will ask is is somebody Being a statist a violation of the non aggression principle if essentially. They're calling for the government to come. Well not really you you just did. You had to throw in that word. Essentially to kind of do the lifting for you know I mean true. Anarchism means like no. No no see your. That's kind of a p. We all do this. It was slipping that word. And then that words doing the work. And it's like they're not essential Maybe essentially if I am saying something that would have the consequence of you You know getting if I say I recommend that you go to this restaurant and you get food poisoning as a consequence will. I was essentially saying you should be poisoned. I mean it's a really tricky. They know it is. Yeah I agree. I think it's tricky but in the same if I if I hired a Hitman to kill someone and and they kill that person. I don't think I could hide behind. Like hey man. I didn't aggress against anybody. Question gave someone money. You know like okay so we will autism on this. I'm house I have the Energy Ruben. His New Book A. Next Week. One things he talks about is He believes Susan harder. Drugs should be legalized and it is true. That is essentially. What he is saying is young people who sell heroin or use. Heroin should be raped or should be in prison where they're GONNA end up getting raped with Lynn terror. But if you ask him Dave. Are you in favour amid? Ask Him of young people being imprisoned and raped. He would be like. Oh my God. That's I'm sure he would sincerely be horrified. So I think we forget Nydia ranch against this. A little bit too is how easy it is for most of us as human beings to have ideas that are kind of removed from each other. Even though they are effectively synonymous. And we see this. A lot of time in polling questions like they'll say like Oh are you for a medicare for all. Yeah are you for socialized healthcare over my dead body and it's like yeah so I mean it's gets so I don't think statist and the other thing is I'm GonNa Goggles status much of what you recall. State ISM isn't status as a sadism in the sense of violating nap in the sense of in an anarchist society right or antics whatever and you had the governing landlord association and they said Look. We got this corona. Everyone needs to stay inside every. We'll do it voluntarily. I mean the vast majority of people do voluntarily these laws. It's not like people in their houses are like I'd be going outside. But for the law we see the poll numbers the Pulitzer like I want. I'm going to follow these orders. I is through the roof. It's not like the people are being forced to stay inside under like a point of God. They're happy to do it. They're like tell us what to do. Well some are I mean the majority as you indicated by polls the majority. Yeah but that doesn't mean the others aren't kind of being forced end 'cause there there certainly is some percentage of the population that would Go outside when we say like. Oh people who Taxes like a lot of people sincerely believe that the government has the right to tell you what your tax rate should be. And that if you don't pay that at if and I don't know that if there was no penalty because we always say will stop paying your taxes and see what happens to you but a lot of them without those cops would still pay those taxes. That's what Kinda Hartford thing for a lot of energy throughout the heads around. They think this is the right thing to do. Yeah well that's true. There certainly are a lot of people who fall into that category although my guess is that if you If you remove the penalties for not paying taxes substantially will ask people what what what would end up happening. I think is a lot of corporations would do the withholding thing because they're being good corporate citizens and then you would have to ask to not have your money withheld and then there would be a huge consequence for you at work. I mean there's all sorts of mechanisms. There's so many mechanisms for quote unquote persuasion slash coercion in the loose sense of the word that these places have like Ebay. You know like if you and I have a dispute and I've had this happen I mailed it and the customers like no this is wrong and Ebay just took my money and gave it to that like what am I supposed to do. I mean he's clearly a private arbitration. Yeah Yeah No. That's that's true. Absolutely all right switching gears a little bit I was A. I was back in New York City. Yesterday I went back Back home with my wife to grab some stuff including sweet ass. Mesa's hoodie which I'm in. Now you WanNa talk about autistic. This is real. I was like I need my body. Size is not one bloom. Puzzle tease please. Yes so anyway. I'm feeling much more comfortable now. Things are back back in order in my life but I was We went in and I was like we gotta like drive through New York City. Got Like see everything right now. We drove through Times Square and Rockefeller Center like that whole area midtown. All up the upper west side and all around and Holy Shit was it eerie eerie man to go through Times Square. And there's not a soul. I mean. I shouldn't say not assault. There's a homeless person here or there. There's some cops that are out. There is nobody walking around Times Square and then to go through. Rock Rockefeller Center and to see the building closed. Nobody on the streets boarded up Stores all over the place man. It was really really eerie. It was something out of a movie And you know anyway. Go ahead no right before we got on I. I'm I'm going to start working my next book imminently. And it's going to be back and and his role in day to day life and wanted his big books is the novel the plague and it's he's not repeat doesn't regard him sees doesn't identifies existentialist. He's lumped in with the existential. It's not that many of them anyway and the it even knee and actually other people have like the book came out. I think the late forties early fifties it was at the time very clearly a metaphor for the Nazi occupation. Although like.

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"michael malice" Discussed on Part of the Problem

Part of the Problem

12:18 min | 8 months ago

"michael malice" Discussed on Part of the Problem

"Know like we've talked about before the models the worst models having come true and it looks like they're not going to There's not gonna be hundreds of thousands of people dying from this virus that it does not look like our medical system is going to be overwhelmed. Eve- even in New York They haven't been. They haven't had a shortage of beds. it looks like actually a lot of the measures to increase the number of hospital beds. Seem like they were unnecessary. Now that's not to say that you know it's a weird thing where people go like. Oh how come if all these scientists like they jumped to this thing where it's like okay so if the models were wrong than it must be a conspiracy like giant conspiracy. Which is not you know a reasonable that this I I was completely off by corona virus. I did not think this is going to be a big deal and I'd a I offered a bet to Carol Markowitz from Your Post said. Do you WANNA bet that. By the end the year more people have been dead because the cops in America because the corona virus and I was way off and it was amazing because less than twitter. Someone through that my face and they're like see you knew this was coming but you chose to troll and make it about cops. I'm like I'm so glad that you're could first of all I was wrong and I'm going to be wrong a lot and have been wrong in the past and I'm GonNa be wrong again and some of the mistakes are going to be doozy's just physically and 'cause I'm not that smart as omniscient person but I love the idea that you fucking knew it was gonna be proof shows to make it about the cops and I'm like okay. That's that thank you for that. Wilson. I will say you said by the end of the year and Coronas gotten off to a big start but these cops they do seem to be trying to catch up so give give the cops a chance. It's not over till it's over. That's why we play the game. You know what I mean so oh okay. Yeah right in that case. Who's The stupider person near her? You really offered her a golden opportunity right there even for cops. This would be a tough one to this point. Well you know. The thing about models and and this is true whether it was with the corona virus or climate change or overpopulation are a lot of these things. It's not there are really really smart people who come up with these models. The problem with models is that what you're doing is predicting the future. And that's a really tough business. Dido victim future denotes how ego the term garbage in garbage out. Or it's ask for them and it's the same thing here. It's like yeah. People have this belief and if you look at it from the Geo centric model the universe and this is something the Austrian economic schools opposed to where people have this belief. If I'm doing a lot of math therefore there must be true because it's kind of like if I'm working hard that means up producing value. Listen to your head against the wall. You're working really hard enough value. So the idea is like look. We're calculating how the stars move and now the EPA cycles and Blah Blah Blah and the entire basis is wrong chronology measuring your skull. You know individual people tend to have this mystical belief that there's a lot of numbers involved that therefore there must be some truth in there the other opposite of that is people have this really and these are people who weren't that bright dumb perspective that while the data is obviously says this data is never obvious. You always have to analyze it and just because something is. Predictive does not mean is predicted for the reasons you thought so. That is a real big mistake. People tend to have yes. But then there's also like this dynamic. It's almost like a smart people's version of Dunning Kruger. Where BECAUSE THEY'RE SMART? They feel smarter than they are. Yeah it's this this thing where we'll dunning Kruger. I thought was people think well done. Krueger was people who aren't very smart. Feeling like Enron smart pro. That works fine so I guess it. Well there there's my version of it but But it's this this thing where you know you're if you're like one of these very smart smart scientists and understand the data better than just about anyone else does. It's very easy for you to go. Look I understand this better. I'm the one who will tell you how everything's out but the problem with predicting the future is and this is why very few people are good at it. And it's very impressive when anyone does it accurately is that there are just near infinite variables that affect how the future is going to work in. It's very hard for anyone. No matter how brilliant they are to see how everything is going to play out now. The you think about it like this right now. The project the projections are about sixty thousand deaths from the corona virus any marital in America. Yes we're we're out about twenty or something like that Now that think about that would be a really nasty flu season. And we don't go through all. These drastic measures every flu season. We don't start social distancing and locking ourselves in our homes annexed shutting down the economy. And we're still going to end up with something in that ballpark. Quite possibly so. It's not that this isn't a real virus on a nasty virus. It's just that the all of the models that were used to justify this type of government response seem to be failing and new information is coming out that is not exactly what we thought or at least. We're starting to get so here's one thing that caught my eye Presbyterian Columbia hospital their maternity ward what. They've been they've been testing pregnant women who come in okay. So they've been testing pregnant women. Who If you come in? You qualify to get tested to make sure you don't have it in to know if you have it before you deliver a baby there so of the pregnant women. They tested a few thousand of them. Got TESTED ABOUT FIFTEEN PERCENT. Had now keep in mind. That pregnant women are not a random sample rate. Pregnant women go to the hospital a lot more often than regular people go to the hospital and the hospital is kind of a hotbed for catching it. So this number might be a little bit inflated. It's possible but still fifteen percent of them of them had it which is an interesting number because we really one of the big questions here is. What percentage of the population has this? And we really don't know because we don't know we just we have no way we haven't been able to test in big numbers random samples but this was something like the closest. We've gotten to that. And it's fifteen percent habit of those fifteen percent close to ninety percent. Were as symptomatic. Okay now that is a really again. This is not a random sample. These are pregnant women. Pregnant women tend to be younger and in reasonably good health If you're if you've gotten to the point where you're about to deliver a baby you're at least healthy enough to carry a baby to term so and you're reasonable young. I mean you're not going to be what I I don't know forty three or something like that is probably the oldest. You're GONNA get Delivering a baby. Maybe I don't know maybe a couple years older than that. But you're not getting any eighty year olds in their delivering babies But so but those two numbers were really interesting and if you go if you're like wow imagine it was anything close to ninety percent are a symptomatic. Then the truth is this has been going around at least January February and March. We were just walking around with nothing. I wonder what percentage of the popular a population has already worked up herd immunity. I mean there's probably areas of the country that have heard immunity already. And that's just something to think about. Who the hell knows. Yeah a fan of mine who let me her weights God bless you Phoebe She's like oh I had. I think I had like she had in January. And a Lotta again. It's hard to distinguish between this and the flu. Only in retrospect. But y'all like I think a lot more people had than they realized because they wouldn't they're young they wouldn't have died from IT and other than this loss of sense of smell and taste which is not universal. It would be impossible for you to distinguish between I have corona and I. It's my fucking flew very difficult. And if you're as symptomatic impossible impossible to distinguish or to know whether you had and if it turns out to be a vast majority are a symtomatic which could be the case again. This is not this one columbia-presbyterian you know that's not proving anything but it. It raises the possibility. And that's that's just very interesting The other thing that Seems to really Be Now that like some more data is really coming in. Is that in terms of the deaths. this is the vast vast vast vast majority of the people who died from Cova nineteen had underlying medical issues. It seems that it's basically like you know how in the nineties it was kind of like AIDS is everybody's problem and they try to make it out like it's only gay people in heroin addicts. Who need to worry about AIDS. But YOU MR straight white male you need to worry about aids and then left the thing. I remember when I was in college. And this is one red pill moments and I took a semester at American University and every day there was a different speaker from different organization and there was one from like a homeless Advocacy Organization. And she said and this is a line that. I think everyone has heard at some point in their lives. She said anyone can become homeless at any time. And I looked at known in the class thought this woman is a brazenly lying propaganda like society maybe regrettable they're like okay. Our they shook their heads. And I'm like can you? How are you sitting here hearing her say this with how am I someone? Who's a millionaire? If I were a millionaire which I'm not A. How can I become homeless like literally even scenario if my house burns down not considered homeless? I could go to hotel. What if I have two houses? How do I become homeless under those circumstances? Even in your worst hypothetical and it's just because they're so big the left on not having any kind of behavior having negative context deserve this and in fact. This was amazing. This just happen here. Were the surgeon. General was talking to specifically. You had like two weeks ago being like Oh this is disproportionately affecting black and brown communities. And I'm like oh I remember for two weeks when you guys pretend to care about anti Asian racism because I think the Asians are getting pretty bad too fuck and covert nineteen. But let's forget about that. So they get the surgeon general in front of the cameras and he starts specifically talking to black and Brown communities. And he's like look dude. Free Ottawa do it for your your Big Mama and pop which is what he called his grandparents and his. Pbs JIHADI GETS UP. And she's just like you know. What do you think about a He likes and stop smoking. Stop Drinking and she goes P. What are we going to say to people who were offended by your use of these terms? And you're saying some behavior is like a problem like wait. Wait if some behavior wasn't a problem. Why are we locked? In our houses why who I mean brazenly the claim that like any behavior is going to have negative consequences is a heresy to them. And you sat there. And you're like Ho and this is why I was so important and understandably so to be fair because there was a section of population who thought fine. I won't I'm a dude. I'M GONNA fucking do it. I won't get AIDS. They're fucking problem. And that is an issue because that really localized and killed a lot of people and it sounds nicer. You know and it feels Nice Sir and you don't want to be mean and the other and the other dealing with reality could lead to meanness so we have to avoid that but the you're homeless example was such a good one because the truth is like look man. It's not even just bad fortune. There's obviously a mental illness capacity to anybody in a first world country in twenty twenty who ends up homeless dirty on the street. There was a lot that went into that. That can't just happen to anybody. I mean think about someone like you right like it's not even just whatever the URA whatever money you have in the bank or whatever career history you have just from your friendships are you could never be homeless like I would never.

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"michael malice" Discussed on The Babylon Bee

The Babylon Bee

01:32 min | 10 months ago

"michael malice" Discussed on The Babylon Bee

"Bone shattering covens right from the top rope and in my crosshairs Mr Michael Malice. We're excited because he's here in person and had him on long ago over skype our first interview ever. He was gracious enough to join us. Even though our podcast was nothing under such fan of if you guys like an enormous fan milk Babylon beam was was big but the podcast even show so weird. I don his show in New York and he's now on our show on the other side of that was hectic for me of course because I had not driven in New York ever before it was a huge mistake. And they'll show the stories on your show. So I'll leave it for your show but I was so sweaty and like frazzled. And I got into your show like three minutes late I think thank you already get recording in. Yeah you can watch on. I think it was on Youtube among digital network. But yeah you WanNa hear Ethan talk about his jars of somehow talking about your on his show that somehow just by looking at him. I knew that there was a story background correct again. We always have to stop him. He's always talking about bodily fluids scout on the V.. Two different story than I've told them this I've told us I haven't heard Geld story. Yeah incredible Michael Malice. Yeah this isn't about the goat. I had this friend who had got once today..

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